[12:00] <Eleaf> mcjerry, no i don't believe so
[12:00] <mcphail> Eleaf: have you checked your RAM?
[12:00] <Eleaf> mcphail, it should be fine..
[12:00] <Eleaf> mcjerry, I think it's the video card
[12:01] <JFlash> is there some optional icon in gnome that shows me if network data is coming in and out?  just like the one you have in windows , with the 2 blinking monitors?
[12:01] <mcphail> Eleaf: should, or is?
[12:01] <Eleaf> mcjerry, I have a lot of segmentation faults whenever I run the card in 16 bit mode (direct 3d rendering)
[12:01] <Eleaf> mcphail, !!!
[12:01] <JFlash> my connection is pretty unstable so i sometime dont have  a clue if data is comming in at all or not
[12:01] <Eleaf> it keeps saying mcjerry lol
[12:01] <sunshine82> procrasinator im officall doin somethin wron i cant get the folder to move how do i typr it
[12:02] <mcphail> JFlash: there is a gnome panel applet
[12:02] <Eleaf> I'm pretty sure it only happens in blender too
[12:02] <Eleaf> lol
[12:02] <mcphail> Eleaf: sounds like trouble
[12:02] <Eleaf> why?
[12:02] <QRZ> Eleaf:  It might be worth testing your memory.  If you have bad memory, that can cause it.  Also, try reseating your memory and all cards, peripheral connectors, etc.  Hard lockups are often hardware related.
[12:02] <Eleaf> ok
[12:03] <Decarabia> has s.b. an idear how i can make my php read my cookies ?
[12:03] <Eleaf> QRZ, the lockups happen rare enough that I don't really have to worry about it...  Only very rarely and they always happen when I'm not doing anything important lol
[12:03] <funkyHat> how can I set up
[12:03] <sunshine82> procrasinator how do i do that path thin
[12:03] <funkyHat> oops, didn't mean to press enter haha
[12:03] <funkyHat> how can I set up passwordless ssh for more than one remote host (actually more than one username on the same remote host)
[12:04] <QRZ> Eleaf:  Yeah but I bet it's enough of a pain in the ass that you'd like to get to the bottom of it, huh!
[12:04] <crimsun> funkyHat: ssh-agent+keychain
[12:04] <QRZ> Eleaf:  Are you overclocking?
[12:04] <Eleaf> QRZ =p
[12:04] <Eleaf> QRZ not at the moment, although i sometimes do
[12:05] <Eleaf> I'm getting a new motherboard, processor, video card etc anyways soon.  But this is a great machine =p
[12:05] <QRZ> Eleaf:  As I'm sure you're aware, overclocking is somewhat of an art (actually more of a balancing act)!
[12:05] <Decarabia> has s.b. an idear how i can make php read my cookies ?
[12:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey all, quick question how do I enable the desktop icons?
[12:05] <sunshine82> procrasinator do i use mv
[12:06] <Eleaf> QRZ, yeee, I can't overclock very far because my motherboard can only change the fsb
[12:06] <Eleaf> so I can only gain like 80 mhz QRZ!
[12:06] <QRZ> Eleaf:  Anyway, good luck with it.  I'd run some RAM tests though.
[12:06] <Eleaf> I have a 900 mhz processor, it's fun
[12:06] <ssstormy> hmm... I'm using checkinstall, but php5 modifies the configuration file of apache, so it won't let me install php5 as a .deb... " trying to overwrite `/usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf', which is also in package apache2
[12:06] <ssstormy> "
[12:06] <QRZ> Eleaf:  Probably not worth overclocking then :-)
[12:06] <_jason> The_Isle_of_Mark, system tools -> gconf editor: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[12:06] <Eleaf> QRZ, ok, should i use the memtest kernel at boot?
[12:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> _jason, thanks :)
[12:07] <ssstormy> how would I force the install?
[12:07] <Eleaf> QRZ, I do notice some extra performance though!
[12:07] <sobersabre> trappist: thanks!
[12:07] <funkyHat> crimsun, I'm not using ssh-agent at the moment (with passwordless ssh only to one remote account)
[12:07] <MrProper_> does anyone know of a similar app to amarok for gnome?
[12:07] <jon_> does anyone know how I can take a screenshot using XFCE?
[12:07] <mcphail> ssstormy: i'm sure there are force options to dpkg. the man page will tell you
[12:08] <QRZ> Eleaf:  That or memtest86  --> http://www.memtest86.com/
[12:08] <ssstormy> mcphail, I've tried following the man stuff, but I can't figure it out
[12:08] <ssstormy> it seems simiple enough
[12:08] <bimberi> The_Isle_of_Mark: Configuration Editor -> /apps/nautilus/desltop
[12:08] <sethk> funkyHat, I do it with an authorized_hosts file in the .ssh directory
[12:08] <sethk> funkyHat, the file is a bit misnamed, it actually specifies user@host combinations
[12:08] <ssstormy> and I get the force options in fine, but no matter which part I read I can't figure out where the regular dpkg package declarations go
[12:09] <eegore_> I just installed ubuntu 64 on my system, is there a menu item that installs the NVidia driver somewhere?
[12:09] <Decarabia> does somebody know how to handle $_COOKIES ?
[12:09] <bimberi> funkyHat: i use ssh-copy-id (but hadn't heard of ssh-agent)
[12:09] <phrizer> mm cookies.
[12:09] <mcphail> ssstormy: dpkg -i --force-all foo.deb?
[12:10] <funkyHat> bimberi or sethk, can you talk me through adding another host to my authorised_hosts please? :)
[12:10] <Decarabia> so phrizer do you know some about it ?
[12:10] <mcphail> Decarabia: yes, but this is the wrong channel
[12:10] <sethk> funkyHat, you just add a line to the file
[12:10] <Decarabia> mcphail so which one is the right ?
[12:10] <sethk> funkyHat, you need to have the key, of course
[12:10] <ssstormy> mcphail, how frustrating... I was experimenting for 30min last night
[12:10] <jon_> anyone know how to take a screenshot using xfce?
[12:10] <ssstormy> trying to figure it out
[12:11] <funkyHat> sethk, ok, so I generate the key on the remote host, and then copy it across and put it in the local authourised_hosts?
[12:11] <sethk> funkyHat, right.
[12:11] <bimberi> funkyHat: on the machine i want to connect from, i issue "ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@host_i_want_to_connect_to"
[12:12] <Decarabia> does somebody know how to handle $_COOKIES ?
[12:12] <mcphail> Decarabia: use $_COOKIE['variablename'] 
[12:12] <dfgas> just wondering, what all extra does the dvd have on it?
[12:12] <Decarabia> mcphail well i know
[12:12] <mcphail> Decarabia: but this is not on /topic
[12:12] <funkyHat> bimberi, is dsa better than rsa?
[12:12] <dfgas> of is there a list somewhere?
[12:13] <Decarabia> mcphail but if a make a echo it aint workin
[12:13] <Decarabia> mcphail so where should i go with this question ?
[12:13] <funkyHat> :)
[12:13] <bimberi> funkyHat: that's my impression, but i wouldn't be able to link you to anything authoritative :)
[12:13] <funkyHat> bimberi, heh, ok then :)
[12:13] <jvai> hey uall, what is this "ssh-********" file i see in the tmp folder? everytyme i take my box to work, & connect evolution/printr, @ the end of day this file is there, in the tmp foldr
[12:14] <norki> why doesn't apps like aMSN have antialiased fonts ?
[12:14] <mcphail> Decarabia: ##php
[12:14] <ispiked> how do I figure out what device my flashdrive is?
[12:14] <Decarabia> mcphail thx
[12:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> why does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while?
[12:14] <sethk> either look on the desktop if it is automounted (or type mount with no arguments), or, if it isn't, do dmesg
[12:14] <dfgas> ispiked: usually something like sda
[12:14] <sethk> ispiked, should show in the last two or three lines of dmesg
[12:15] <eegore_> nick eegore64
[12:15] <JaZy84> okay guys i've followed the wiki on ubuntu for adding ibm java but when enever i start an browser (firefox/ephaniy) the thing crashes when trying to load the java any ideas
[12:15] <jvai> i hope i'm not getting ssh'd into this box
[12:15] <bimberi> funkyHat: btw, my method works with the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for user@host_i_want_to_connect_to
[12:16] <mcphail> norki: i don't know that app, but some apps use old widget sets (such as GTK1) which don't have antialiasing
[12:16] <meuserj|work> jvai, that is just a file that the ssh-agent creates, ssh-agent is started by default in gnome
[12:16] <JaZy84> java version "1.5.0"
[12:16] <JaZy84> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build pxi32dev-20051104)
[12:16] <JaZy84> IBM J9 VM (build 2.3, J2RE 1.5.0 IBM J9 2.3 Linux x86-32 j9vmxi3223-20051103 (JIT enabled)
[12:16] <cyphase> is there a separate program that does what the Show Desktop Button does?
[12:16] <JaZy84> on java -version
[12:17] <ssstormy> mcphail, what about when the package I'm building replaces several interlocking older packages?
[12:17] <jvai> *whew* ok thnx menserj
[12:17] <ssstormy> like mysql; there is a -client  , -server , and -common
[12:17] <ssstormy> package
[12:17] <mcphail> jvai: cat /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh will show you any access
[12:17] <_jason> JaZy84, where is the wiki with ibm java?
[12:17] <ispiked> now to figure out what filetype...
[12:17] <sobersabre> guys.. skype q.
[12:18] <sobersabre> the windows skype allows ring to use different device than call.
[12:18] <sobersabre> I don't see this enabled ... is there a way to enable it on linux skype ?
[12:18] <JaZy84> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IBMJava?highlight=%28java%29
[12:18] <_jason> JaZy84, thanks
[12:18] <Comrade_Vladimir> why does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while?
[12:19] <mcphail> ssstormy: does the mysql source package automatically create a client and a server?
[12:19] <_jason> JaZy84, did you remove any other java you had installed as a plugin for firefox?
[12:19] <JaZy84> i did remove the other libjava..so  that was there
[12:19] <JaZy84> but other then that now
[12:19] <cyphase> is there a separate program that does what the Show Desktop Button does?
[12:19] <JaZy84> no*
[12:19] <ssstormy> mcphail, yeah it provides all of it
[12:20] <mcphail> sobersabre: what do you mean ring/call
[12:20] <ispiked> how can I figure out what type of filesystem something is mounted as?
[12:20] <Grogoreo> hi
[12:20] <mcphail> ssstormy: does the makefile provide different install targets?
[12:20] <funkyHat> bimberi, sethk, cheers, it works great :)
[12:20] <sethk> funkyHat, great
[12:20] <jvai> mcphail, wouldnt system log show it too?
[12:20] <JaZy84> that ibm 1.5 java i got dosn' have libjavaplugin_ojigcc3.so that file as said on wiki it does have libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:20] <ssstormy> mcphail, you mean like make server or make client?
[12:21] <sethk> funkyHat, saves a lot of typing, plus you can now disable passwords and protect yourself from a password attack
[12:21] <JaZy84> and libjavaplugin_ojigtk2.so
[12:21] <sobersabre> mcphail: the rrrring rrrring rrrring can go into one sound card, and the talk, the callers voice into another on windows.
[12:21] <mcphail> jvai: i don't think so, but i'm not sure
[12:21] <sorush20> anyone here know about the website that allowes you to downlaod 7000 fonts in one folder compressed?
[12:21] <Grogoreo> I'm running windows atm because I can't get to my linux partiton from Windows taking over the MBR, how can I get back grub easily? I can mount my linux drive from windows, so is there an easy way?
[12:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> cmon why does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while? answer me!
[12:21] <mcphail> ssstormy: yes
[12:21] <sobersabre> there is such option in tools->options, but it is greyed out.
[12:21] <_jason> JaZy84, you just made one symlink in your plugins folder though right?
[12:21] <bimberi> funkyHat: great! :)
[12:21] <sobersabre> mcphail: got me ?
[12:21] <ssstormy> mcphail, good idea.  I'm not sure right now, but I'll take a look
[12:21] <JaZy84> yes
[12:22] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimir, see if the virtual frame buffer device is enabled in xorg.conf
[12:22] <polpak> Comrade_Vladimir, I believe the reason no one is answering your question is due to the fact that no one else has any experience with that issue
[12:22] <mcphail> sobersabre: check out skype_dsp_hijacker. I think that seveas has put a .deb on his repo
[12:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> sethk how?!
[12:22] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimir, edit the file, read it.
[12:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok what file
[12:22] <bimberi> Grogoreo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:23] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimi1, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:23] <Comrade_Vladimi1> ill use gaim now
[12:23] <Grogoreo> bimberi: thanks
[12:23] <JaZy84> yeah only one sym link and it's the libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:23] <kemik> !java
[12:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:23] <flodine> is there a xinitrc file for ubuntu
[12:23] <_jason> JaZy84, try to rename it to libjavaplugin_ojigcc3.so i guess
[12:23] <bimberi> Grogoreo: np :)
[12:24] <Comrade_Vladimi1> sethk ok im not as linux smart as u seem to think i am elaborate for me plz...
[12:24] <JaZy84> alright
[12:24] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimi1, which editor do you like to use?
[12:24] <bimberi> flodine: on my box "locate xinitrc" gives /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[12:25] <Comrade_Vladimi1> im still here
[12:25] <hasse> !java
[12:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:25] <mcphail> sobersabre: http://195.38.3.142:6502/skype/
[12:25] <Comrade_Vladimi1> say it again
[12:25] <jvai> i've been googling gnomemeeting/gaim compatability for the longest today
[12:26] <flodine> bimberi can i edit it to start a program on boot
[12:26] <Comrade_Vladimi1>  sethk i dunno which i use just give it im one
[12:26] <jvai> i cant accept the girl's invite to yahoo webcam
[12:27] <sobersabre> mcphail: thanks, I am currently using this one. but this is not what I was talking about
[12:27] <Eleaf> I'm thinking of upgrading to a Sempron 64, will it not run programs compiled on a 32 bit machine? =P
[12:27] <Eleaf> ^^
[12:27] <bimberi> flodine: on boot?  you could add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh - i guess xinitrc is for when X starts up
[12:27] <hasse> !javadebs
[12:27] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[12:27] <sobersabre> Eleaf: if you setup 32 environment.
[12:27] <apache_am> I need some help
[12:27] <sobersabre> i mean 32 bit
[12:27] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimi1, I suppose nano is the easiest.  so in a terminal window, first, back up the file you are about to edit.  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~
[12:27] <mcphail> sobersabre: sorry, then i've misunderstood
[12:27] <Comrade_Vladimi1> cd u maen
[12:27] <Eleaf> sobersabre, what do you mean?
[12:27] <sobersabre> mcphail: 1 card for the rrrrrrrrrring.
[12:27] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimi1, then   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <apache_am> I need a driver SIS 661FX
[12:27] <sethk> Comrade_Vladimi1, just read the file, don't save it or anything, yet
[12:28] <the_mr_bong_show> may i ask a question about the cmos battery
[12:28] <sobersabre> another card for the microphone and the call speakers. ( the conversation. )
[12:28] <zarathaz> are there any good channels with people in any of the other servers on xchat
[12:28] <Comrade_Vladimi1> can we take this to a diff channel sethk?
[12:28] <sobersabre> ok, thanks all.. I think this option is disabled by default
[12:28] <mcphail> sobersabre: the skype sound architecture is very primitive
[12:28] <definity1> where can i download more applets for the tool bar?????????
[12:29] <flodine> bimberi that bootmisc looks crazy where do i put it top or bottom
[12:29] <sobersabre> mcphail: the skype has bad linux support. it has a normal sound architecture: NONE. it relies on OSS technology.
[12:29] <bimberi> flodine: at the bottom
[12:30] <sobersabre> and  on the underlying system.
[12:30] <bimberi> flodine: but above ": exit 0" :)
[12:30] <sobersabre> and it is buggy.
[12:30] <the_mr_bong_show> will the pc run if i take the cmos battery out
[12:30] <flodine> bimberi i just want to add xset fp to start my font
[12:30] <funkyHat> sobersabre, unfortunately Gizmo is _worse_
[12:31] <sobersabre> I know no Gizmos... I've heard of gremlins though...
[12:31] <apache_am> SIS661fx where can i found a driver ????
[12:31] <Comrade_Vladimi1> sethk?
[12:31] <sobersabre> ok... bye all
[12:32] <apache_am> bye
[12:32] <apache_am> SIS661fx where can i found a driver ????
[12:34] <bimberi> flodine: in ~/.bashrc there is a section that begins with a comment like "# If this is an xterm ...", you could try adding your xset command in there
[12:34] <Comrade_Vladimi1> why did u stop in the middle of the conversation sethk?
[12:34] <apache_am> SIS661fx where can i found a driver ????
[12:34] <apache_am> Please ...
[12:35] <flodine> bimberi aterm
[12:35] <JackPalmiery> been reading up on gnome vs. kde
[12:35] <Viper550> Hello!
[12:35] <Comrade_Vladimi1> hi!
[12:35] <JackPalmiery> it seems people point out the lack of integration and standards w/ gnome
[12:35] <JackPalmiery> but few complaints about kde
[12:35] <Viper550> Yeah, maybe that's why Linux Torvalds recomends it now!
[12:35] <bimberi> flodine: what does "echo $TERM" output when you're in your terminal?
[12:35] <apache_am> SIS661fx where can i found a driver ????
[12:35] <JackPalmiery> what advantage does gnome have? can't find much about that
[12:36] <funkyHat> JackPalmiery, if you're used to windows, then KDE will be nice and familiar (that's actually the same thing that put me off)
[12:36] <funkyHat> JackPalmiery, speed...
[12:36] <JackPalmiery> speed is good.. kde needs more power huh
[12:37] <Comrade_Vladimi1> linus torvalds ass
[12:37] <funkyHat> JackPalmiery, Also not all would say that KDE's integration is a good thing
[12:37] <funkyHat> I personally don't like the fact that Konqueror is EVERYTHING at all
[12:37] <apokryphos> is it the blue? I think so :)
[12:37] <JackPalmiery> it sounds like the integration is optional.. no need to use it
[12:38] <JackPalmiery> i find that curious too
[12:38] <Viper550> So, you think Dapper is coming slong nicely? Also, Konqueror is much better at file manager/web browser than IE!
[12:38] <flodine> bimberi not sure how do i find out
[12:38] <JackPalmiery> consistency can be good in the right places
[12:38] <apokryphos> funkyHat: it isn't *everything*, but that issue is being addressed, primarily in kde 4
[12:38] <funkyHat> apokryphos, it's not that it looks like windows so much that it _feels_ like windows
[12:38] <Foodcoman> apokryphos: =)
[12:38] <bimberi> flodine: open a terminal and type   echo $TERM
[12:38] <apokryphos> funkyHat: again, I have no idea where that comes from. Is it the blue?
[12:38] <JackPalmiery> what is wrong about the feel
[12:38] <Comrade_Vladimi1> what does windows feel like fuzzy?
[12:38] <JackPalmiery> particulars
[12:38] <funkyHat> apokryphos, I am aware of that ;) but it's more of the DE than IE is in windows!
[12:38] <Comrade_Vladimi1> glassy?
[12:39] <apokryphos> oO
[12:39] <funkyHat> Comrade_Vladimi1, glassy is look not feel
[12:39] <flodine> bimberi rxvt
[12:39] <Thorondor> why do i keep getting errors like this when opening files in xpdf/xfig/etc? ``Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct''
[12:40] <apokryphos> it must be the single panel by default, that's it!
[12:40] <JackPalmiery> it looks like lots of vendors are pushing towards gnome
[12:40] <apokryphos> looks the opposite
[12:40] <funkyHat> I mean the way things work... I suppose it could be a lot to do with my over-eagerness to use the command line, which KDE at the moment is more discouraging of than gnome (I didn't say it is _very_ discouraging, just _more_)
[12:40] <bimberi> flodine: then that should be OK because the code in .bashrc says "case "$TERM" in xterm*|rxvt*)"
[12:40] <Viper550> But, that's what Kubuntu is for
[12:40] <JackPalmiery> really? who is making kde default?
[12:40] <JaZy84> !java
[12:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:40] <apokryphos> funkyHat: any examples?
[12:40] <JackPalmiery> Novell kind of backtracked.. but not really.. KDE will be optional, rather than the default
[12:41] <techrush> hi guys
[12:41] <funkyHat> apokryphos, No, that was an observation I only just made
[12:41] <funkyHat> about myself
[12:41] <JackPalmiery> sun appears in the gnome camp
[12:41] <apache_am> Whos better? Gnome or KDE? i'm novice with linux
[12:41] <Thorondor> gnome is easier
[12:41] <flodine> bimberiall i want is to set my font with xset for aterm on start
[12:41] <apache_am> i just use windows
[12:41] <Thorondor> KDE has more functions
[12:42] <funkyHat> Thorondor, -offtopic ;)
[12:42] <MaFiaBoY> apache_am > XFCE :)
[12:42] <cmatheson> flodine: you can set your fonts in ~/.Xdefaults
[12:42] <JackPalmiery> mafiaboy - do you post on \.
[12:42] <Hoxzer> now now, guys
[12:42] <bimberi> flodine: i think this will work, there might be better ways but i don't know them sorry
[12:43] <apache_am> the interface of KDE is like windows interface ? or similar ?
[12:43] <JackPalmiery> i think i've seen the name
[12:43] <Hoxzer> how do I allow wine to use internet?
[12:43] <MaFiaBoY> hey
[12:43] <apache_am> What is XFCE ? mafiaBoy ?
[12:43] <apokryphos> !xfce
[12:43] <ubotu> methinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[12:43] <MaFiaBoY> wrong nick :p
[12:43] <flodine> theres got to be a way to set my .font folder on startup
[12:43] <Viper550> If you really want a Windows like interface, try FVWM 95 or IceWM
[12:43] <HymnToLife> apache_am > another display manager, like gnome or KDE
[12:44] <JackPalmiery> from a developer perspective does gnome offer anything KDE doesn't?
[12:44] <HymnToLife> but I suggest to try them all and see the one you like most
[12:44] <apache_am> ok
[12:44] <Viper550> Window Manager, display manager is your login screen, GDM
[12:44] <jldugger> i just bought a new LCD panel to replace my old crt; what do i need to debconf to get the higher resolutions?
[12:44] <apokryphos> JackPalmiery: please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue discussion
[12:44] <HymnToLife> yeah, sorry :p
[12:44] <flodine> bimberi thxs  for the help
[12:44] <mcphail> JackPalmiery: a decent C API
[12:45] <bimberi> flodine: np :)
[12:45] <JackPalmiery> I'll look into that.. been coding in java lately.. swing sucks
[12:46] <JackPalmiery> an example of where consistancy can be bad
[12:46] <bimberi> jldugger: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <jldugger> bimberi, thanks. you know why dpkg isnt using my GNOME interface?
[12:47] <Hoxzer> somebody here uses wine?
[12:47] <bimberi> jldugger: no sorry :|
[12:47] <JamesPlusPlus> JackPalmiery: Swing isn't that bad ;)
[12:47] <jldugger> bimberi, it's cool. just thought i'd ask.
[12:48] <bimberi> jldugger: i wonder if it's a switch to the dpkg command? *has a look*
[12:48] <grogoreo> hi
[12:48] <the_mr_bong_show> will the pc run if i take the cmos battery out
[12:48] <Viper550> I've really been doin stuff to my Breezy, changed display manager to KDM, got KDE 3.5, patched ClearLooks with Cairo support, and E17 from scratch!
[12:48] <jldugger> bimberi, there's probably a apt or dpkg conf file somewhere im missing.
[12:49] <ispiked> how do I load the windows drivers for ndiswrapper if all I've done is load the kernel module (not compiled it)?
[12:49] <grogoreo> it seems I can't mount two of my linux partitions (though I can mount my windows one), so is there any tests I can do, to make sure they're ok?
[12:49] <JamesPlusPlus> When I try to compile Gaim, I'm getting this automake error: path/to/dir/Makefile.am: not supported: source file '/lib/srcfile.c' is in subdirectory
[12:49] <JamesPlusPlus> What could I be doing wrong?
[12:50] <apache_am> Where can i found SIS661FX driver ?
[12:50] <apache_am> Someone Know
[12:50] <apache_am> ?
[12:51] <grogoreo> apache_am, http://display-and-video.free-driver-download.com/SiS/12027/SiS-SiS661FX-SiSM661FX-Graphics-Driver-3.56.html
[12:51] <bimberi> jldugger: found it - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and set the interface to Gnome :)
[12:51] <jldugger> heh
[12:51] <jldugger> debconf debconf'
[12:51] <jldugger> heh
[12:51] <bimberi> :)
[12:51] <grogoreo> apache_am, crap, sorry that's for windows
[12:51] <JamesPlusPlus> apache_am: I suggest google ;d
[12:51] <apache_am> I was looking for
[12:52] <JackPalmiery> hrmm.. for windows
[12:52] <apache_am> but i hust found for windows
[12:52] <apache_am> just
[12:52] <jldugger> bimberi, thanks a ton
[12:52] <bimberi> jldugger: np :)
[12:52] <grogoreo> apache_am, http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_16.htm
[12:53] <JackPalmiery> hrmm.. there is also a kubuntu channel
[12:53] <jldugger> you know, ive never had the update tools ask me any questions. i wonder if it sets the priority to critical or none or something wierd
[12:53] <grogoreo> could someone tell me the command for a badblock check?
[12:54] <Viper550> Is there an IRc channel for Ubuntu Art?
[12:54] <pl_ice> hey, guys i got problem with wine :/
[12:54] <pl_ice> badblocks
[12:54] <apache_am> How can i check my kernel ?
[12:55] <pl_ice> check? ...
[12:55] <iandefor> check your kernel for what?
[12:55] <apache_am> the version
[12:55] <pl_ice> hey i need a hand with wine ...pls
[12:55] <pl_ice> cat /proc/version
[12:56] <pl_ice> anyone burns dvd's ?
[12:57] <iandefor> apache_am: you can check your kernel with uname -r
[12:57] <DewDude> ok, here's my thing...i finally got gstreamer working with ALL my formats...but..it seems to like to make my system a tad sluggish...you can see it on visualizations and such..the mouse cursor shows it too...it goes away once i close anything using gstramer...any ideas?
[12:57] <iandefor> as well
[12:57] <DewDude> or should i just remove it entirely and build fresh from source
[01:02] <iandefor> DewDude: I would rebuild
[01:02] <DewDude> ok
[01:02] <DewDude> the original install came from ubuntu repositories
[01:03] <iandefor> ah
[01:03] <DewDude> and it acted the same out of box
[01:03] <DewDude> i hacked monkeys audio into it
[01:03] <iandefor> okay
[01:03] <DewDude> it plays ALL my formats..it just
[01:03] <DewDude> lags my box
[01:03] <iandefor> yeah
[01:03] <bluefox83> hey, how do you guys have xchat 2.6.0 in your repositories already?
[01:03] <DewDude> and doing my monkeys thing broke something else
[01:03] <DewDude> cuz i can't install beep-media plugins
[01:03] <DewDude> at least musepack
[01:04] <Viper550> Is there an Ubuntu Art channel?
[01:04] <iandefor> weird
[01:04] <DewDude> rather than trying to fix the dependencies...i'm just gonna try to build libmpcdec and bmp-musepack
[01:04] <Tyler7039> who can i ask for help?
[01:04] <Tyler7039> i just need to know how to execute a .run file
[01:04] <the_mr_bong_show> will the pc run if i take the cmos battery out
[01:04] <Tyler7039> brand new to linux
[01:04] <Viper550> ./something.run
[01:04] <bluefox83> sh fjfjsdfkjsdfkjsdkj.run
[01:04] <bluefox83> or that
[01:04] <Tyler7039> just ./ ?
[01:05] <DewDude> odd
[01:05] <iandefor> hmm?
[01:05] <Tyler7039> so its 'sh filename.run'?
[01:05] <DewDude> the musepack plugin is insalling from adept now
[01:05] <iandefor> fancy that
[01:05] <DewDude> it wasn't earlier
[01:05] <DewDude> oh
[01:05] <DewDude> i know why
[01:05] <DewDude> cuz i manually built libmpcdec
[01:05] <DewDude> ok
[01:06] <iandefor> okay
[01:06] <DewDude> it's gstreamer i broke
[01:06] <Viper550> ./ means to run a shell script or application
[01:06] <iandefor> good deal
[01:09] <Viper550> What do you think the next Ubuntu color will be?
[01:09] <ElBarono> chartreuse
[01:09] <JamesPlusPlus> How could I get the latest version of automake?
[01:10] <JamesPlusPlus> I used apt-get and it got me 1.4
[01:10] <ElBarono> James: why do you need the latest version?
[01:10] <ElBarono> have there been monumental changes in automake since 1.4?
[01:10] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: it's giving me crazy errors
[01:10] <wastrel> hello my darling dearies.  how do i get streaming video to work?
[01:10] <JamesPlusPlus> And after consulting google, it could be an automake problem
[01:10] <ElBarono> hmm
[01:10] <mcphail> JamesPlusPlus: automake1.9 seems to be in the repos
[01:11] <JamesPlusPlus> from earlier: When I try to compile Gaim, I'm getting this automake error: path/to/dir/Makefile.am: not supported: source file '/lib/srcfile.c' is in subdirectory
[01:11] <JamesPlusPlus> mcphail: is there a way to specifically get that?
[01:11] <bluefox83> hey, how come your xchat2.6.0 is b0rked?
[01:11] <JamesPlusPlus> I just did the apt-get like 30min ago
[01:11] <ElBarono> automake is for developers
[01:11] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: yes...
[01:11] <ElBarono> there is no reason for a user to ever need automake
[01:11] <mcphail> JamesPlusPlus: i suppose sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[01:11] <ElBarono> wtf..
[01:11] <JamesPlusPlus> mcphail: k, lemme try that
[01:12] <the_mr_bong_show> will the pc run if i take the cmos battery out
[01:12] <bluefox83> uh, not till you put it back in O.o
[01:12] <JamesPlusPlus> mcphail: awesome, seems to be working
[01:12] <JamesPlusPlus> Thanks
[01:13] <the_mr_bong_show> ts just i get cmos checksum bad f1 f2 sorta thing
[01:13] <wastrel> hi how do i get streaming video working in firefox?
[01:13] <mcphail> JamesPlusPlus: np
[01:13] <corvax> in firefox?
[01:14] <corvax> you mean mediaplayer connectivity
[01:14] <wastrel> ok
[01:14] <wastrel> sometimes it wants to play in the firefox window
[01:14] <corvax> thats why i use anyway
[01:15] <corvax> plus the mplayer plugin
[01:15] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: what about users who are compiling Gaim, for example?
[01:16] <NewIRC> someone have firefox 1.5 installed in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[01:16] <Viper550>  I do!
[01:16] <iandefor> as do I
[01:16] <korhalf> I'm Spartacus
[01:16] <ElBarono> James: end users should never need automake, even if they are compiling things
[01:16] <NewIRC> rpm ?
[01:16] <korhalf> !rpm
[01:16] <ubotu> I heard rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[01:17] <NewIRC> 1alien
[01:17] <NewIRC> !alien
[01:17] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:17] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: It seems I do right now - also, as a CS major I do smaller dev stuff, so eventually I'll probably start using it
[01:17] <wastrel> i'm installing mozilla-mplayer 100%
[01:17] <ElBarono> the GAIM developers should not have made it so that end users compiling GAIM need automake
[01:17] <korhalf> Autotools for linux is bad
[01:17] <korhalf> im sorry
[01:17] <kemik> argh
[01:17] <ElBarono> you should need two things to compile something
[01:17] <korhalf> There isn't a very well designed IDE around.
[01:17] <pl_ice> amy one ripps dvd's?
[01:17] <kemik> why does eclipse depend on java-common ?
[01:17] <ElBarono> make and a compiler
[01:18] <kemik> i got the sun j2sdk1.50
[01:18] <kemik> ElBarono:  "build-essentials" got all the tools and more needed to compile stuff
[01:18] <mcphail> korhalf: autotools are horrible, but useful
[01:18] <ElBarono> ITYM 'build-essential'.
[01:18] <korhalf> mcphail, i guess
[01:18] <ElBarono> and build-essential does not have autotools
[01:19] <korhalf> mcphail, i shoudl shutup before i piss off those linux zealots that believe vim + gcc is the way to go
[01:19] <ElBarono> or automake
[01:19] <ElBarono> or autoconf
[01:19] <Viper550> http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dapperproposal25fo.jpg These are my new Dapper Design Proposals
[01:19] <mcphail> korhalf: it's nice to compile and run the same apps on ubuntu and windows/cygwin
[01:19] <wastrel> mozilla-mplayer works super good happy
[01:19] <mcphail> korhalf: a lot of homemade makefiles don't work as well
[01:20] <ElBarono> automake is a developer tool.  there is no excuse for forcing end users to have automake in order to compile your package
[01:20] <DewDude> hehehe
[01:20] <wastrel> bye
[01:20] <DewDude> it's finally all working
[01:20] <the_mr_bong_show> will my pc start up without my cmos battery
[01:20] <DewDude> yeah
[01:20] <mcphail> ElBarono: sometimes end-users like to grab the bleeding edge from cvs
[01:20] <DewDude> but it won't save any bios settings
[01:20] <DewDude> and it'll probably give you a bad checksum error
[01:20] <djk_> Viper550: that's a rather annoying wallpaper..
[01:20] <ElBarono> mcphail: if you are grabbing stuff from cvs then you're blurring the line between end user and developer
[01:21] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: indeed
[01:21] <ElBarono> James didn't mention that he was grabbing stuff from CVS
[01:21] <Viper550> I made it myself!
[01:21] <ElBarono> if he is, I retract my statements about the gaim developers
[01:22] <Dave> anybody know how to install flash in ubuntu
[01:22] <ElBarono> Dave: yes
[01:22] <Dave> wee
[01:22] <polpak> !flash
[01:22] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:22] <djk_> Viper550: pixelized != unique..
[01:22] <polpak> read the restricted formats wiki
[01:22] <DewDude> ooooooh
[01:22] <DewDude> that is nice
[01:22] <ElBarono> Dave: asking meta-questions is discouraged
[01:22] <JamesPlusPlus> ElBarono: I am pulling out my stuff from CVS, yes
[01:22] <JamesPlusPlus> Perhaps saying "compiling Gaim" is a tad vague
[01:22] <djk_> Viper550: pixelized is so 80's ;)
[01:22] <ElBarono> James: yes
[01:23] <ElBarono> in that case you should install whichever version of automake you need..
[01:23] <Viper550> And, nobody does that! Nobody did Brown interfaces until Ubuntu came around
[01:23] <pl_ice> hitting head against the wall ...
[01:23] <toya_> hi ppl
[01:23] <JamesPlusPlus> Eh, I went and upgraded to 1.9
[01:23] <ElBarono> as mcphail said
[01:23] <Dave> man i read the support forum and i cant install the JRE pack it gives me errors. Tried repacking as a .deb but same
[01:23] <JamesPlusPlus> No more errors
[01:23] <toya_> can someone tell me where can i find my .profile?
[01:23] <ElBarono> sweet
[01:23] <ElBarono> toya_: if you're using bash, you probably don't have a .profile
[01:23] <polpak> Dave, read the restricted formats wiki
[01:23] <ElBarono> you can use .bash_profile instead
[01:24] <Dave> okay :O
[01:24] <ElBarono> or create .profile manually
[01:24] <bimberi> toya_: ~/.bash_profile
[01:24] <djk_> Viper550: nobody does pink interfaces..
[01:24] <iandefor> how observant
[01:24] <toya_> ic
[01:24] <toya_> thx
[01:24] <freddy_> hello...how do i install a bootsplash? thanks.
[01:25] <Viper550> It's not pink, it's brown of course!
[01:25] <corvax> dave apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:25] <toya_> i wanna change my PS1 to something everytime i load terminal
[01:25] <Dave> sweet
[01:25] <djk_> Viper550: you didn't get the point..a colour doesn't make it 'unique'
[01:25] <toya_> inside .bash_profile they have if statements, is it safe if i just put PS1='something'?
[01:26] <freddy_> bootsplash? anyone?
[01:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> YES i did go on #ubuntu on windows!
[01:26] <Viper550> Me too!
[01:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> cool took a while tho
[01:26] <Hoxzer> how do I install dll files to wine?
[01:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> i have dual boot!
[01:27] <bimberi> toya_: i think PS1 is set in ~/.bashrc
[01:27] <bimberi> freddy_: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto ?
[01:27] <Dave> so hears my last help question. I cant boot default  modules/lib/10. Have to enter grub and choose lib/9, help
[01:28] <Viper550> The Ubuntu computer dual boots, but I'm not on IRC on that one right now
[01:28] <toya_> bimberi, is it safe if i just set PS1 again in the end?
[01:28] <bimberi> toya_: yep, fine :)
[01:29] <toya_> bimberi, do you know the special chars for it? or where to find out? (i mean like \u \$ etc)
[01:29] <bimberi> toya_: no you've got me there sorry :)
[01:29] <_jason> toya_, there's a list in man bash
[01:29] <toya_> bimberi, ok thx for your help
[01:29] <toya_> _jason, oh k thx
[01:30] <bimberi> onya _jason !
[01:30] <Paradosso> hi everybody, is there an audacious ubuntu package available somewhere?
[01:30] <iandefor> audacity, you mean?
[01:30] <Paradosso> audacious, the bmp fork
[01:30] <iandefor> oh
[01:30] <iandefor> never heard of it
[01:31] <Dave> so yeah, i have to enter grub and choose /lib/mdules blah blah 9 instead of lib/modules bla blah 10 (default) it cant find
[01:31] <_jason> toya_, line 2300 lol
[01:31] <bimberi> toya_: or search for PROMPTING (2nd hit) :)
[01:31] <forest> Ktos po polsku
[01:32] <toya_> _jason, can you tell me how to jump to specific line?
[01:32] <_jason> toya_, use bimberi's method: /prompting <searches for prompting... then press 'n'
[01:32] <bimberi> toya_: 2300G
[01:32] <flodine> anyone know how to start xset auto
[01:33] <toya_> bimberi, _jason oh ok thx
[01:33] <bimberi> toya_: np :)
[01:34] <blackgecko> has anyone get 3d accel on a ati igp 345 ??  please ??
[01:34] <bipolar> does anyone know a way to use dd to append to an existing file?
[01:35] <tyler7039> who here can give me help on navigating with the command line
[01:35] <tyler7039> i cant run anything because it says file not found
[01:35] <tyler7039> but thats because im in the wrong directory
[01:35] <bipolar> heh
[01:35] <bipolar> tyler7039: what are you trying to do?
[01:35] <tyler7039> and i have absolutely no clue how to do anything
[01:35] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler7039 about cli
[01:35] <bimberi> !cli
[01:35] <ubotu> from memory, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:35] <tyler7039> run a graphics driver program
[01:36] <tyler7039> nvidia.run
[01:36] <Paradosso> !audacious
[01:36] <ubotu> Paradosso: Not a clue
[01:36] <bipolar> tyler7039: ahh...
[01:36] <bipolar> tyler7039: where did you download it to? Your home directory?
[01:36] <tyler7039> desktop
[01:36] <bipolar> ok
[01:36] <tyler7039> that was by default
[01:36] <dingo001> hi
[01:36] <Jonas^> i seem to have lost my boot partition.
[01:36] <iandefor> hullo
[01:37] <iandefor> say more...
[01:37] <bipolar> tyler7039: so you need to change to the Desktop directory to run the program, right?
[01:37] <dingo001> im trying to install ubuntu on a old ibm machine that does not have bootable cd drive
[01:37] <dingo001> any suggestions?
[01:37] <Jonas^> last time i booted up, i got a lot of errors about not being able to execute "/sbin/getty"
[01:37] <tyler7039> bipolar: yes
[01:37] <corvax> cd /home/yourusername/Deskto
[01:37] <Jonas^> and Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, etc.
[01:37] <corvax> p
[01:37] <bipolar> tyler7039: you need to use the 'cd' command.
[01:37] <Jonas^> and now i can't boot (grub error 24), and i cannot mount the partition from the livecd.
[01:37] <MrProper_> does anyone know if you can get global shortcuts for xmms? (as in windows key+b for next track regardless of application focus)
[01:37] <Jonas^> anyone have any ideas?
[01:38] <bipolar> tyler7039: so if you are at a command prompt, you are probbly at somthing like "user@ubuntu:~" right?
[01:38] <tyler7039> bipolar: thats what i tried...cuz im familiar with MS-DOS
[01:38] <tyler7039> bipolar: just not the ubuntu terminal
[01:38] <pl_ice> MrProper_ i tried to use my multimedia k.board ...
[01:38] <bipolar> tyler7039: the commands work a little diffrent
[01:38] <dingo001> any ideas on how to install ubuntu on a machine whose cd drive is not bootable?
[01:38] <tyler7039> bipolar: yes...thats what shows up
[01:38] <corvax> tyler cd /home/yourusername/Desktop
[01:38] <bipolar> tyler7039: use 'cd Desktop'
[01:38] <tyler7039> bipolar: Tyler@tyler:
[01:39] <aeon17x> !frostwire
[01:39] <ubotu> aeon17x: Are you on ritalin?
[01:39] <aeon17x> !limewire
[01:39] <ubotu> hmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:39] <bipolar> tyler7039: the first thing you need to know is that the commands a Case Sensitive.
[01:39] <bipolar> tyler7039: Desktop is not the same as desktop, DeSkToP, etc...
[01:40] <iandefor> dingo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:40] <iandefor> see if that helps
[01:40] <bipolar> tyler7039: also, 'cd' all by itself will return you to your home directory, where you are now
[01:40] <tyler7039> bipolar: yeah. thats where i am stuck
[01:41] <_jason> tyler7039, what do you mean stuck?
[01:41] <josh> look. i am new at linux, lol
[01:41] <_jason> josh, well you're in the right chat room
[01:41] <korhalf> josh, what do you need?
[01:41] <tyler7039> i am stuck in my home directory and i dont know how to navigate with the command line to run any programs
[01:41] <josh> how do i open a folder?
[01:41] <bipolar> tyler7039: your desktop is in '~/Desktop' where ~ means your home directory.
[01:41] <josh> like browse?
[01:41] <_jason> tyler7039, 'ls' is like 'dir' in dos
[01:42] <korhalf> you doublt click on it.
[01:42] <bipolar> tyler7039: 'cd' will always take you back to your home directory. so will 'cd ~'
[01:42] <_jason> tyler7039, type ls and see what directories are under you
[01:42] <corvax> isingle click lol
[01:42] <korhalf> oh its single?
[01:42] <korhalf> i dont use the GUI lol
[01:42] <tyler7039> _jason: it just says 'Desktop'
[01:42] <corvax> oh
[01:42] <corvax> so you goto that directory
[01:43] <josh> is there a window to browse through folders?
[01:43] <_jason> tyler7039, great that's what is in your home directory.  If you want to go to Desktop, you do: cd Desktop
[01:43] <korhalf> josh, yes, the Gnome File Browser
[01:43] <corvax> josh you arent using a de?
[01:43] <Delvien> where are the NAUTILUS scripts?
[01:43] <josh> ah i see it!
[01:43] <tyler7039> _jason: ahh...thank you
[01:43] <josh> cool
[01:43] <josh> thx
[01:43] <tyler7039> _jason: thats what ive been trying to do all along
[01:43] <josh> i came from windows >.<
[01:43] <tyler7039> _jason: is there anything special i need to do to run nvidia.run?
[01:43] <blackgecko> has anyone get 3d accel on a ati igp 345 ??  please ??
[01:44] <_jason> tyler7039, why are you running nvidia.run?
[01:44] <Screenwiper> who is opening my files?
[01:44] <tyler7039> _jason: to update my graphics drivers...ubuntu didnt install the correct ones
[01:44] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler7039 about nvidia
[01:45] <_jason> tyler7039, have you attempted the procedure at the wiki?  (ubotu just sent you a link to it)
[01:45] <Jonas^> anyone familiar with the errors 'cannot execute "/sbin/getty"'. 'Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes'  (for id's one through six) on bootup?
[01:45] <holycow> hey all
[01:45] <holycow> he i have 3 ubuntu workstations to setup, and i'm making the first install on an old 20 gig hd.  what options do i have for duplicating that hd onto drives of different sizes without going through the manual install and config process?
[01:45] <tyler7039> _jason: no not yet...but i tried doing it a way that other people told me about, by typing './filename.run' and it says "Permission Denied."
[01:45] <tyler7039> _jason: what's up with that?
[01:45] <mach> hey, folks. Is it possible to get an old machine (Celeron 333 Mhz, 128 MB Ram, 4 giga HD) to  run Ubuntu smoothly with graphical interface?
[01:46] <corvax> try sudo
[01:46] <_jason> tyler7039, I'll tell you what's up with that.  But you should use the directions at the wiki.
[01:46] <kresten> Hi everybody!
[01:46] <tyler7039> corvax: just tried sudo...said "Command not found"
[01:46] <_jason> tyler7039, in general you don't download random files and run them to install things.  You use the repositories through synaptic.
[01:46] <tyler7039> sudo ./nvidia.run
[01:46] <ispiked> what command am I looking for if I want to query packages in a repository?
[01:47] <M_Cheevy> heya folks
[01:47] <tyler7039> _jason: i also read about that
[01:47] <kresten> Does anyone know how to change the default "run" command for a specific type of files?
[01:47] <_jason> tyler7039, and did you try the wiki method?
[01:47] <tyler7039> _jason: i couldnt figure out how to add repositories into that program
[01:47] <tyler7039> _jason: i will...one sec
[01:47] <_jason> tyler7039, I'll help you out, let me know where you are getting stuck
[01:48] <M_Cheevy> what are the correct permissions for /usr/bin/eject?  root root -rwxr-xr-x?
[01:48] <corvax> this is how you add repos  cd /etc/apt
[01:48] <flodine> does anyone use xset fp+
[01:48] <keron> kresten, right-click, properties, open-with-tab
[01:48] <Comrade_Vladimir> how come i use the clarke server on winf=dows?
[01:48] <MrProper_> i have an ssh server that i want to automatically forward ssh for a particular user to another server, any ideas?
[01:48] <corvax> sudo nano sources.list
[01:48] <Hoxzer> where wine configure file located ?
[01:48] <_jason> M_Cheevy, mine read: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 16584 2005-07-21 12:53 /usr/bin/eject
[01:48] <kresten> keron, thanks...
[01:48] <HighHopes> Hello! Somebody knows when Firefox 1.5 will be put in Universe or Multiverse repositories?
[01:48] <crimsun> HighHopes: it won't. It's a main package.
[01:49] <M_Cheevy> _jason: basically the same... bugger... then that's not it....
[01:49] <M_Cheevy> trying to debug an cd/dvd eject issue
[01:49] <byteshack> anyone running xfce4 here? My xfce panel has disappeared, and I cant get it to pop-up again, any ideas?
[01:49] <HighHopes> crimsun, but ff 1.07 is in repositories... why won't put 1.5 ?
[01:49] <crimsun> HighHopes: because they're FROZEN. They released. No new software (or versions of existing software) goes in. Period.
[01:50] <byteshack> HighHopes, have you tried to install ff 1.5? Straight from mozilla?  There is howto in the wiki
[01:50] <byteshack> HighHopes, it's way faster than the one in the repos
[01:50] <_jason> tyler7039, I'm going to go eat.  If you have any problems with the repositories again just let the channel know.
[01:50] <HighHopes> byteshack, ok. Thank you!
[01:50] <D1> !javadeb
[01:50] <ubotu> well, javadebs is Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[01:51] <Lukian> what's the fastest way to burn something (photos) for an end-user
[01:52] <keron> byteshack, tried xfce4-panel& in terminal?
[01:52] <Jonas^> anyone feel like helping me with my lost boot partition?
[01:52] <bolrod> NO!
[01:52] <bolrod> uh
[01:52] <corvax> lukian get k3b
[01:52] <josh> i can't open "Add Applications"
[01:52] <bolrod> whats /lost'
[01:53] <Jonas^> i can't mount it anymore
[01:53] <corvax> josh why?
[01:53] <bolrod> Jonas^: why....
[01:53] <josh> it won't show up
[01:53] <bolrod> whats the error
[01:53] <Jonas^> i get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error
[01:53] <nickrud> Lukian, one way is left click the desktop, enter burn:// in the dialog box, drag photos there, then hit the burn button
[01:53] <corvax> you mean its removed from the panel?
[01:53] <Jonas^> last time i booted up i had a lot of errors
[01:53] <byteshack> keron, that worked.  Any ideas how it got lost?
[01:53] <Jonas^> Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
[01:54] <josh> no, i click it, and nothing happens
[01:54] <Jonas^> for ids one to six
[01:54] <byteshack> keron, thanks!
[01:54] <pl_ice> need breakfast :D
[01:54] <josh> is it administration settings?
[01:54] <Jonas^> and lots of cannot execute "/sbin/getty"
[01:54] <bolrod> oh
[01:54] <bolrod> and you cant repair it?
[01:54] <Jonas^> don't know how to
[01:54] <keron> byteshack, it probably crashed... you just started the aplication again.. np
[01:54] <corvax> well it should bring up a prmpt for your root password
[01:54] <bolrod> with the fsck
[01:54] <bolrod> something...
[01:54] <Delvien> nalioth you there?
[01:54] <MrRio> how do i make WxWidgets use the GTK2 theme?
[01:54] <Jonas^> hold on
[01:55] <char> can anyone help?
[01:55] <MrRio> im sure wxwidget apps can look half-decent instead of that mirky grey with horrible button
[01:55] <MrRio> s
[01:55] <corvax> char just for this session?
[01:55] <corvax> or everytime
[01:55] <char> nop
[01:55] <raphink> depends with what char
[01:55] <char> i logged out, logged in and it still won't work
[01:56] <char> should i reboot?
[01:56] <Jonas^> bolrod, when i do fsck /dev/hda1 i get "Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hda1. The filesystem revision is too high for this version of e2fsck. Or the filesystem superblock is curropt"
[01:56] <Jonas^> *currupt
[01:56] <char> corrupt
[01:56] <char> brb y'all
[01:56] <bolrod> sounds sweet :/
[01:57] <Jonas^> yeah :) when i ask parted to print the partition table, it doesn't show anything in the filesystem column next to this partition
[01:57] <bolrod> hrm
[01:57] <bolrod> did you turn off your computer when it was writing a file or something?
[01:57] <ice9> can someone help me with chroot
[01:57] <bolrod> or was it about to write something...
[01:58] <ice9> I need help with the file /etc/fstab ?
[01:58] <bolrod> no you dont
[01:58] <bolrod> there is a manual page
[01:58] <pl_ice> ice9 what u need?
[01:58] <Lukian> how do i bootup with numblock on?
[01:58] <bolrod> ;p
[01:58] <awtomlinson> i tried to run fsck & rebuild my directory structure, received the following error:  The problem has occurred looks like a hardware problem. If you have
[01:58] <awtomlinson> bad blocks, we advise you to get a new hard drive, because once you
[01:58] <awtomlinson> get one bad block that the disk drive internals cannot hide from
[01:58] <awtomlinson> your sight,the chances of getting more are generally said to become
[01:58] <awtomlinson> much higher (precise statistics are unknown to us), and this disk
[01:58] <awtomlinson> drive is probably not expensive enough for you to you to risk your
[01:58] <Jonas^> the system suddenly froze, completely. i had to hard reset it. then when it booted up i got the errors about /sbin/getty and id's respawning, and it stopped.
[01:58] <awtomlinson> time and data on it. If you don't want to follow that follow that
[01:58] <awtomlinson> advice then if you have just a few bad blocks, try writing to the
[01:58] <awtomlinson> bad blocks and see if the drive remaps the bad blocks (that means
[01:58] <awtomlinson> it takes a block it has in reserve and allocates it for use for
[01:58] <bolrod> oh cheesus.....
[01:58] <awtomlinson> of that block number). If it cannot remap the block, use badblock
[01:58] <ice9> help with chroot
[01:58] <awtomlinson> option (-B) with reiserfs utils to handle this block correctly.
[01:58] <Chris_Tucker> how does one use networking sound?
[01:58] <Jonas^> then i rebooted again, and i got grub error 24.
[01:58] <awtomlinson> bread: Cannot read the block (6935674): (Input/output error).
[01:58] <awtomlinson> Aborted
[01:58] <awtomlinson> do i have any hope of recovering data?
[01:58] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[01:58] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:59] <Chris_Tucker> !paste
[01:59] <Jonas^> then i booted from a livecd and tried to mount it, and it wont, and here i am.
[01:59] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:59] <ice9> with the file /etc/fstab
[01:59] <Chris_Tucker> how does one use networking sound?
[01:59] <bolrod> urh
[01:59] <bolrod> well....... a system that freezes for no appparent reason.... is a bit weird
[01:59] <pl_ice> ice9 so what u want to do exactly?
[01:59] <bolrod> maybe it messed up the filesystem.....
[01:59] <bolrod> I dont know
[01:59] <Jonas^> yeah.
[02:00] <ice9> need to see someones /etc/fstab file
[02:00] <ice9> for chroot
[02:00] <pl_ice> bolrod but there is a reason for this madness ;) shakespeare :D
[02:00] <josh> still won't work
[02:00] <bolrod> maybe inode table has gone bezerk
[02:00] <Jonas^> i thought the point of ext3 was that it would recover if it was shut off while writing something
[02:00] <bolrod> welllll......... yes.
[02:00] <Jonas^> hehe
[02:00] <bolrod> I thought so too
[02:00] <awtomlinson> can someone please help?  please, please
[02:00] <bolrod> maybe the hard disk has too much bad sectors
[02:00] <bolrod> ?
[02:00] <ice9> if someone could pm the file I would appreciate it
[02:00] <_jason> Jonas^, you may want to try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[02:00] <bolrod> and gone beyond repair.....
[02:01] <Jonas^> hold on
[02:01] <chromate> what portable hard-drive mp3 players do you all use/recommend?
[02:01] <josh> iPod!!!
[02:01] <josh> nano, black
[02:01] <bolrod> chromate: what do you want
[02:01] <ktogias> I am thinking of switching to Dapper at my laptop, that I do not depend on but would like it to be functional, in order to help with some testing - bug recovery (and to play ofcource)... Is dapper in a "working" state, or will I just have a non operational mess?
[02:01] <pl_ice> chromate i got ipod :/  i'm gonna put linux on it :D
[02:01] <bolrod> nano...... bah.. is only 4GB
[02:01] <josh> mine's Suzuki
[02:01] <Chris_Tucker> how does one use networking sound?
[02:01] <bolrod> 4GB iz way tuu lietl
[02:01] <bolrod> :] 
[02:01] <Chris_Tucker> or networked sound
[02:01] <awtomlinson> do i have any hope of recovering data given the error message that i received?
[02:01] <Chris_Tucker> whatever it is
[02:02] <Jonas^> _jason: that involves manually mounting partitions. my problem is that i cannot mount it.
[02:02] <Jonas^> so... :-)
[02:02] <johnnybezak> ktogias: i was on dapper last week, it was seriously screwed up
[02:02] <chromate> pl_ice: yeah i was looking more in the 10-20 gb range
[02:02] <josh> i don't think ubuntu sees me as an admin
[02:02] <josh> how do i fix that?
[02:02] <ice9> pl_ice do you have a chroot ?
[02:02] <pl_ice> chromate yeh, u can get ~40 gigs as well for ipod
[02:02] <bolrod> Jonas^: maybe you could figure something out with  dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/some/dir/
[02:03] <Jonas^> bolrod, do you know what command i use to check for bad sectors?
[02:03] <bolrod> and extract data from it
[02:03] <pl_ice> ice9, sorry can't help ya
[02:03] <DewDude> ipod is an overpriced piece of crap
[02:03] <ice9> bummer
[02:03] <ice9> k
[02:03] <DewDude> avoid it at all costs
[02:03] <bolrod> Jonas^: fsck could check
[02:03] <DewDude> you can find better players with more space for the same money
[02:03] <bolrod> I think there is some option for it
[02:03] <pl_ice> ice9  u trying to put chroot in fstab?
[02:03] <frogzoo> #josh I guess if you run 'groups' youl see admin mentioned - just remove yourself from the group in /etc/groups (as root)
[02:03] <josh> DewDude, you probably bought one, hacked it and it died and u thought that you couldn't fix it, lol?
[02:03] <DewDude> buying ipod is like buying a dell..you pay for advertising and brand
[02:03] <DewDude> that's it
[02:03] <pl_ice> DewDude but u can put linux on it :D o/w i agree i burned the bugger after 2 weeks :/
[02:03] <DewDude> no
[02:03] <_jason> Jonas^, I know someone was getting grub24 errors and fixed it by doing that.  Your problem may be totally unrelated, but you may want to try it if you run out of ideas
[02:04] <DewDude> i just don't see where it's THAT great
[02:04] <ktogias> johnnybezak, thanks... I think I 'll wait for a couple of months...
[02:04] <bolrod>  -c                   Check for bad blocks and add them to the badblock list
[02:04] <msmith> new to linux, son told me to install this.  How do I change the resolution?  It's too low and I only get one option in the System/Screen Resolution application
[02:04] <Jonas^> well, fsck refuses to touch it because of the corrupt superblock.
[02:04] <bolrod> or blocks.. whatever :)
[02:04] <DewDude> get an iriver player
[02:04] <josh> i've killed my pod twice
[02:04] <bolrod> hrm
[02:04] <DewDude> they're at least supporting OGG in thier players
[02:04] <josh> thx frogzoo
[02:04] <bolrod> josh: how?
[02:04] <frogzoo> bolrod: how what?
[02:04] <Nekomages> how do I manually install a .deb file?
[02:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell msmith about fixres
[02:05] <Jonas^> hmm
[02:05] <bolrod> kill an ipod
[02:05] <pl_ice> !alien
[02:05] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[02:05] <Lukian> dpkg -i file @ Nekomages
[02:05] <Nekomages> thx
[02:05] <frogzoo> Nekomages: 'sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb'
[02:05] <_jason> Nekomages, what are you installing
[02:05] <bolrod> Nekomages: dpkg -i
[02:05] <Nekomages> cedega 5.x
[02:05] <josh> Users and Groups isn't opening either
[02:05] <Nekomages> no point in screwing with packages with it anymore since it has it's own updater now
[02:05] <frogzoo> josh: sudo vi /etc/groups
[02:05] <pl_ice> u guys know? i never ever can remember how to write dpkg :/
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> at login, a popup occurs, "HOME/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and preventing default session. It should be set to user and have 644 permissions." So I check on it, and I adjust it to 644 permissions... yet, Im the user and that was already correct. After all this, the popup still occurs, why?
[02:06] <Delvien> where are the NAUTILUS scripts?
[02:06] <josh> )_)
[02:06] <josh> 0_0
[02:06] <bolrod> Debian PaKaGe
[02:06] <bolrod> :)
[02:06] <bolrod> probably
[02:06] <frogzoo> josh: u sure you want to do this?
[02:06] <josh> what's sudo vi?
[02:06] <chromate> bolrod: 10-20gb, easy transfer with linux, long battery life (for 4-5 hour drives), and easy to navigate while driving
[02:06] <josh> do what!
[02:06] <Jonas^> _jason: yeah, but my main issue isn't grub not booting, it's not being able to even mount my partition once i'm booted from another system or a livecd.
[02:06] <bolrod> vu us ab edutir
[02:06] <Delvien> _jason do you know where the scripts are for Nautilus so i may add something??
[02:06] <bolrod> wow
[02:06] <frogzoo> josh: how are you going to maintain your box subsequently?
[02:06] <_jason> Delvien, put: where are the nautilus scripts in google
[02:06] <bolrod> vi is an editor
[02:06] <bolrod> (had a little typing offset ;))
[02:06] <Nekomages> vi is a headache ^^
[02:07] <ELpH95o> what'sup folks
[02:07] <ssstormy> I've realized I need to hand edit the "provided" value of a .deb package- but how do I do this?  where do I put the values?
[02:07] <ELpH95o> ubuntu is the distro that's going to save the human race
[02:07] <Delvien> _jason i know hehe but i cant find anything on WHERE they are
[02:08] <Nekomages> gentoo will save the human race, ubuntu will make it easier and for the other 95% thats to stupid no help will ever save them ^^
[02:08] <_jason> Delvien, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+script
[02:08] <pl_ice> u guys seen this one?
[02:08] <Jonas^> bolrod, dd seems like a last option. i'd really really like to recover this filesystem intact :-) no ideas at all?
[02:08] <Jonas^> who would i ask?
[02:08] <DewDude> http://pastebin.com/474445 <- if someone could give me an idea as to if it's a dependency failure or bad makefile, thanks in advance. feel free to msg..i'm stepping out for a smoke and will probably miss answers
[02:09] <pl_ice> 370HSSV-0773H
[02:09] <pl_ice> :P
[02:09] <bolrod> fsck.ext3  ? you tried that one?
[02:09] <bolrod> maybe its more helpfull
[02:09] <bolrod> :/
[02:09] <awtomlinson> regeya, i spoke with you last night.  tried to rebuild my reiser directory, got the following error:
[02:09] <QRZ> Delvien:  You can put your Nautilus scripts in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and they'll be available via right-click from within Nautilus.
[02:09] <awtomlinson> The problem has occurred looks like a hardware problem. If you have
[02:09] <awtomlinson> bad blocks, we advise you to get a new hard drive, because once you
[02:09] <awtomlinson> get one bad block that the disk drive internals cannot hide from
[02:09] <awtomlinson> your sight,the chances of getting more are generally said to become
[02:09] <awtomlinson> much higher (precise statistics are unknown to us), and this disk
[02:09] <awtomlinson> drive is probably not expensive enough for you to you to risk your
[02:09] <awtomlinson> time and data on it. If you don't want to follow that follow that
[02:09] <cafuego> So, you learned a valueable lesson on why not to use reiser.
[02:09] <awtomlinson> advice then if you have just a few bad blocks, try writing to the
[02:09] <awtomlinson> bad blocks and see if the drive remaps the bad blocks (that means
[02:10] <awtomlinson> it takes a block it has in reserve and allocates it for use for
[02:10] <awtomlinson> of that block number). If it cannot remap the block, use badblock
[02:10] <awtomlinson> option (-B) with reiserfs utils to handle this block correctly.
[02:10] <awtomlinson> bread: Cannot read the block (6935674): (Input/output error).
[02:10] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:10] <awtomlinson> Aborted
[02:10] <Nekomages> idiocy alert
[02:10] <cafuego> Also, DON'T PASTE
[02:10] <Kyral> NO PASTE!
[02:10] <mrkoje> !flood
[02:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[02:10] <Delvien> QRZ /.gnome2 is not a directory it says
[02:10] <_jason> awtomlinson, USE PASTEBIN, people have told you before...
[02:10] <QRZ> Delvien:  ~/.gnome2, not /.gnome2
[02:10] <_jason> Delvien, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php disagrees about the location, read that
[02:10] <awtomlinson> sorry.  do i have any hope of recovering the data?
[02:10] <Jonas^> bolrod, it says the exact same thing. anyway, if i want to check for physically bad sectors (or blocks? :-) ), i guess it shouldn't really matter what filesystem was on the disk...
[02:10] <cafuego> DewDude: Bad code.
[02:11] <_jason> Delvien, most likely more than one location works
[02:11] <corvax> Tonight on The Linux Link Tech Show: Dan's 7 year old daughter installs Ubuntu
[02:11] <SealyDave> cant find the restricted package list link
[02:11] <bolrod> Jonas^: hrm... dont know :)
[02:11] <corvax> hehe
[02:11] <cafuego> !+restrictedFormats
[02:11] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:11] <Jonas^> well
[02:11] <typewriter> why is postfix a dependency of mysql-server?
[02:11] <NanoBCN28> hi guys. One question. This might not be the right place but I was already logged. How do I connect to telnet through a bash script?
[02:11] <Jonas^> thanks a lot for your help anyway
[02:11] <QRZ> Delvien:  Ubuntu seems to like ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts though.
[02:11] <Jonas^> :-(
[02:11] <cafuego> typewriter: On unattended startup, mysql might send email to root if corrupted DBs are found.
[02:13] <brian_> i am slightly new to linux. i'd like to watch streaming video. how do i install new software? ive tried to read documentation, but nothing is clear to me.
[02:13] <awtomlinson> can anyone help?
[02:13] <aeon17x> brian_: look at the Starter Guide in the help files.
[02:13] <Delvien> QRZ what is a .sig file?
[02:14] <toya_> can anyone answer my question
[02:14] <toya_> how do i set a hotkey to xkill?
[02:14] <ELpH95o> Nekomages, :that's a great one
[02:14] <_jason> ubotu, tell toya_ about shortcuts
[02:14] <QRZ> Delvien:  ...as in signature file perhaps?
[02:15] <johnhol_> salve
[02:15] <_jason> toya_, are you getting that many crashes that you need a shortcut key? :P
[02:15] <awtomlinson> thanks for the suggestions guys
[02:15] <johnhol_> qualcuno sa dirmi come connettermi ad internet con nokia 6680 ???
[02:15] <NanoBCN28> johnhol_, mi dispiace, ma sarebbe meglio che parlassi inglese qui
[02:16] <darkangel_> Excuse me all i have a question. How come the test print from my printer came out blank but i can print from webpages but i cant print pdfs they come out blank. Any help would be nice
[02:16] <SealyDave> having a bitch of a time installing sun java JRE
[02:16] <toya_> _jason, just wondering, thx
[02:16] <cafuego> SealyDave: Use the .deb generator.
[02:16] <SealyDave> i did that
[02:16] <NanoBCN28> SealyDave, even from deb files?
[02:16] <SealyDave> as per wiki
[02:16] <cafuego> Are you on i386?
[02:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell SealyDave about javadeb
[02:16] <SealyDave> yeah
[02:16] <marelo> i got the following error while trying to install firefox 1.5:
[02:16] <marelo> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:17] <cafuego> !tell marelo -about firefox1.5
[02:17] <marelo> but there's no libstdc++.so.5 in my synaptic
[02:17] <Toma-> cafuego: that dvdbackup didnt work... didnt like 1 sector on the dvd so errored out! instead, i used acidrip, and it worked perfect :) problem is, i encoded the japanese sound track, not the english :/ damn.
[02:17] <flodine> how do i make a program start up when i sign into ubuntu?
[02:17] <cafuego> Toma-: d'oh :-)
[02:17] <_jason> marelo, install libstdc++5
[02:17] <HymnToLife> marelo > do you have the correct repos ?
[02:17] <Toma-> :P~
[02:17] <mrkoje> ubotu tell me about firefox 1.5
[02:17] <johnhol_> can i connect to WWW with my NOKIA 6680 on Ubuntu Breezy ???
[02:17] <cafuego> Or use firefox 1.0.7, which works fine.
[02:18] <marelo> HymnToLife, i think so... the default ones
[02:18] <keron> johnhol_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740
[02:18] <NanoBCN28> johnhol_, what do you mean to www? to make a private network between your nokia and Ubuntu?
[02:18] <flodine> soundray welcome
[02:18] <soundray> Hi flodine
[02:18] <johnhol_> connect to Internet
[02:18] <ELpH95o> i have firefox 1.5 running perfect
[02:19] <Toma-> marelo: apt-file comes up with "libstdc++5: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[02:19] <Toma-> "
[02:19] <ELpH95o> i'm going to try to make a automatic deb package for it
[02:19] <Toma-> pfft 2 line. gg xchat
[02:19] <soundray> flodine, I filed a bug against xfonts-artwiz :)
[02:19] <ELpH95o> I'm somewhat of a linux newbie but i come from the land of FreeBSD
[02:19] <johnhol_> i want to connect to internet with my nokia 6680 via USB
[02:19] <flodine> soundray got the fonts to work in a terminal but i got to xset everytime i sign in
[02:19] <corvax> if firefox updates itself in version 1.5 wont that cause problems
[02:19] <typewriter> whats the easiest way to install qmail on ubuntu?
[02:19] <johnhol_> not bluetooth
[02:20] <Toma-> corvax: its been updating itself since 1.0 i think
[02:20] <corvax> with depencies
[02:20] <cafuego> typewriter: apart from 'not" ?
[02:20] <_jason> corvax, why?
[02:20] <typewriter> not?
[02:20] <cafuego> corvax: Like I said, firefox 1.0.7 works fine.
[02:20] <soundray> flodine, I think the error is very simply that the package places the files in the wrong directory.
[02:20] <debater86> hey guys, could someone help me get my external USB drive to automount?
[02:20] <debater86> Because it's not.
[02:20] <crimsun> typewriter: use qmailanalog-installer.
[02:20] <Delvien> QRZ i downloaded this https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/audio-convert/, im trying to make it so i can have the "script" in there so i can can use it via right click
[02:20] <johnhol_> ???
[02:21] <darkangel_> register
[02:21] <darkangel_> register nick
[02:21] <QRZ> Delvien:  Ok.  So did it work?
[02:21] <Toma-> johnhol_: you'll need to set it up as external modem
[02:21] <johnhol_> are there a free but full driver for conexant internal 56k modem ? a linuxant key??
[02:21] <debater86> I put my USB drive in, and it does not come up on my desktop. I look at dmesg, though, and it shows that it knows the drive has been plugged in...
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell darkangel_ about register
[02:21] <typewriter> qmailanalog-installer is not qmail
[02:21] <Delvien> QRZ i dont know what kind of file do i need in there to be a "script"?
[02:21] <soundray> flodine, you could save your xset command in a script and run it on login. Would you like the details for that?
[02:21] <cafuego> johnhol_: Please don't ask for warez.
[02:21] <flodine> soundray everytime i sign in i got to typ xset fp what do i do
[02:22] <typewriter> i'm wondering if someone made some qmail packages of ubuntu i can just install with that are widely accepted as official as unofficial can get
[02:22] <corvax> isnt qmail non free?
[02:22] <cafuego> corvax: yup
[02:22] <josh> gmail, i have that
[02:22] <josh> what's qmail?
[02:22] <keron> mailserver
[02:22] <typewriter> qmail is part of non-free?
[02:22] <cafuego> typewriter: Having qmail ubuntu packages would violate the licence... so probably not.
[02:22] <QRZ> Delvien:  All you have to do is download and save it to a file in your ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts directory and make sure it's executable (chmod 755 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/name_of_script.sh).
[02:23] <crimsun> typewriter: we cannot distribute qmail in binary form period.
[02:23] <typewriter> cafuego: im saying unofficial packages that are widely regarded as "official"
[02:23] <josh> hey, i'm still not having it see me as an Admin. someone give me step by step how to fix that plz lol
[02:23] <crimsun> typewriter: to do so would violate DJB's license.
[02:23] <soundray> flodine, you could save your xset command in a script and run it on login. Would you like the details for that?
[02:23] <typewriter> you're not understanding me
[02:23] <cafuego> typewriter: DKB would flame them quite a lot, I expect.
[02:23] <crimsun> typewriter: it's qmail-installer iirc
[02:23] <tsume> UncleD: choo choooo!!!!
[02:23] <Hoolio> exit
[02:23] <tsume> oh man, its cafuego
[02:24] <flodine> soundray please
[02:24] <keron> josh, you have another account on the comp that can do sudo?
[02:24] <typewriter> http://smarden.org/pape/Debian/
[02:24] <Delvien> QRZ it worked
[02:24] <cafuego> A better idea would be to use less restrictive software.
[02:24] <josh> nope
[02:24] <darkangel_> Anyone here know anything about printing
[02:24] <josh> i don't.... and, it won't let me add or view the users/groups
[02:24] <crimsun> typewriter: sorry, it's qmail-src
[02:24] <Nekomages> how do I switch opengl to my ati drivers? ^^
[02:25] <pashaw> flodine, couldnt you add the command to System-> Sessions ->startup Programs (command)
[02:25] <Xenguy> !printing
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:25] <keron> josh, that is a security isue, you cant add a admin without being admin
[02:25] <Toma-> anyone know if seveas repo's are down? and whats the name of it now? i cant keep up <:(
[02:25] <josh> BAH
[02:25] <josh> to fix, est wa ka?
[02:25] <QRZ> Delvien:  Cool!  I love the idea of nautilus scripts.  I've written several myself.  My latest is a virus scanner script for it.  It allows you to scan files/directories by right-clicking on them!
[02:25] <_jason> Toma-, I can't get to the homepage either
[02:25] <Toma-> dang it.
[02:26] <crimsun> typewriter: e.g., http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/qmail-src
[02:26] <tsume> est wa ka?
[02:26] <tsume> josh: what is est?
[02:26] <keron> josh, i think the easiest way to fix is to boot from a live cd, mount the disk and edit the configfiles....
[02:26] <tsume> josh: and why are you using japanese? :P "wa ka?"
[02:26] <Delvien> QRZ cool is there any converts to PNG
[02:26] <josh> lmao
[02:27] <soundray> flodine, create a file with '#!/bin/sh', followed by your xset command. Save it (a typical location would be $HOME/bin). Do a 'chmod 700 $HOME/bin/scriptname'. Go to System-Preferences-Sessions and add the script to Startup Programs. Next time you log in, it should happen automatically.
[02:27] <finalcut> anyone have a minute to help me with an 3G ipod and ubuntu problem?
[02:27] <tsume> josh: it doesn't even make sense :/
[02:27] <josh> it's cool. i made my own language that expresses what i'm trying to say rather than using faces and slang all the time
[02:27] <Toma-> josh: cant you use sudo?
[02:27] <josh> what's sudo?
[02:27] <Toma-> !sudo
[02:27] <Toma-> damn pm
[02:27] <QRZ> Delvien:  Probably.  You could google for it and see.  If not, write one!  I'm currently working on a file encrypter/decrypter script for Nautilus.
[02:27] <Toma-> sudo is the "fake" admin tool
[02:28] <Toma-> lets you edit/change things as root/admin
[02:28] <Delvien> QRZ cool
[02:28] <marelo> damn! installing programs in linux it too difficult! grrrr
[02:28] <marelo> *iss too...
[02:28] <josh> how do i get to it?
[02:28] <_jason> marelo, what are you installing
[02:28] <crimsun> marelo: Applications> Add Applications is difficult?
[02:28] <Toma-> marelo: what are u installing?
[02:28] <Delvien> marelo nah , just not as stupid as windows is
[02:28] <marelo> firefox 1.5
[02:28] <ubuntu> hey guys! what was the command to check the file system and/or partition tables though a terminal?
[02:29] <josh> BAH humbug
[02:29] <toya_> why does it give me some gtk warning when i try to gedit as a root (sudo -i)?
[02:29] <soundray> flodine, for shell script examples, look at the ones in /etc/init.d
[02:29] <Toma-> josh: log in as a nirmal user, then run "sudo <command>" in a terminal
[02:29] <marelo> and others programs beat me as well hoho
[02:29] <Toma-> normal even
[02:29] <toya_> someone told me that the root's PATH doesn't have the folder where gedit is in
[02:29] <josh> fufufufu
[02:29] <crimsun> marelo: FF 1.5 is not in Breezy, so it's not available in that way.
[02:29] <corvax> installing too difficult?
[02:29] <corvax> lol
[02:29] <ubuntu> hey guys! what was the command to check the file system and/or partition tables though a terminal?
[02:29] <toya_> but i did PATH=$PATH:mynormaluserpath and it still gives me that warning
[02:29] <marelo> crimsun, i know, i'm trying to install "manually"
[02:30] <aeon17x> ubuntu: cfdisk
[02:30] <ice9> anyone have chroot installed here ?
[02:30] <ubuntu> thx
[02:30] <josh> where
[02:30] <josh> where
[02:30] <josh> where
[02:30] <josh> lol
[02:30] <marelo> corvax, yes!!!! for a newbie like me
[02:30] <corvax> its actually easier if you ask me
[02:30] <josh> tell meh where i get to sudo
[02:30] <finalcut> has anyone here gotten a 3g ipod to work with Ubuntu?
[02:30] <aeon17x> Oh wait, I think I got it wrong...
[02:30] <josh> ipods should work my bro got his to
[02:30] <darkangel_> oh god why does my printer just keep printing blank pages
[02:30] <corvax> everything you should ever need will be in the repos if you stick to FREE software
[02:31] <bimberi> ubotu tell josh about sudo
[02:31] <Toma-> josh: i told you.
[02:31] <josh> i left my connector cord a long time away from here
[02:31] <finalcut> my shuffle works fine (usb) but my firewire one isn't doing anything.
[02:31] <marelo> corvax, well firefox 1.5 isn't hehe
[02:31] <_jason> toya_, what are you doing?
[02:31] <Eleaf> corvax, there are some open source good stuff not in the repos = p
[02:31] <flodine> soundray what do i name it
[02:31] <marelo> Eleaf, well said
[02:31] <dooglus> ice9: I do
[02:31] <soundray> flodine, artwizfix :)
[02:31] <Toma-> marelo: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[02:32] <josh> where do i do these commands?
[02:32] <ice9> can you pls pm me
[02:32] <dooglus> ice9: I think it comes as part of ubuntu
[02:32] <toya_> _jason, want to figure out why i can't do gedit as a root
[02:32] <Toma-> josh: I TOLD YOU.
[02:32] <ice9> pls
[02:32] <soundray> flodine, doesn't really matter, as long as the name reminds you of what it is.
[02:32] <josh> oh didn't see
[02:32] <josh> shoot
[02:32] <josh> lol
[02:32] <josh> now... what's a terminal?
[02:32] <_jason> toya_, are you actually logged in as root or just using sudo?  and 'gedit' should work
[02:32] <Toma-> josh: you in gnome?
[02:32] <toya_> _jason, someone said something abt losing x vars or something
[02:32] <ice9> dooglus did you hear me
[02:32] <toya_> _jason, sudo -i
[02:33] <josh> ubuntu
[02:33] <Eleaf> marelo, = P
[02:33] <dooglus> ice9: what is "pls pm me"?
[02:33] <Toma-> josh: Right.... well click Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[02:33] <ice9> so I can talk to you about chroot
[02:33] <dooglus> ice9: I tried spell-checking it.  it came out as "piss on me".  I doubt that's what you meant though.
[02:33] <corvax> anyone get that to load?http:// http://www.binrev.com:8000/main
[02:33] <Rotog> Hello everyon,  I am new to ubuntu and am trying to install vmware player from a tar ball...  I need to know where perl can be found...... to run the script.
[02:33] <ice9> can you please pm me
[02:33] <josh> thanks!
[02:33] <_jason> toya_, just use sudo -s
[02:33] <ice9> instant message
[02:34] <dooglus> ice9: can we talk here?
[02:34] <ice9> private message
[02:34] <ice9> can just that theres a ton of people talking at once
[02:34] <ice9> anyway
[02:34] <Toma-> Rotog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275
[02:34] <toya_> _jason, hmm ok i'll read man sudo
[02:34] <Toma-> Rotog: follow that, and READ everything! :)
[02:34] <Rotog> thanks
[02:34] <darkangel_> can anyone help me figure out why my printer prints blank pages when i try to print a pdf
[02:35] <djk_> is there any tool for linux to detect copy protection on audio cds?
[02:35] <ice9> ok I installed chroot now when I udo debootstrap --arch i386 hoary /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunt
[02:35] <ice9> It starts to config everything
[02:35] <QRZ> Rotog:  Do, "which perl" at the command line and that will give you the full path to it.
[02:35] <ice9> then gets stuck on lvm common
[02:35] <ice9> any idea
[02:35] <soundray> darkangel_, what type of printer?
[02:35] <ice9> how I can start from scratch
[02:35] <ice9> get rid of chroot and start over again
[02:36] <dooglus> just remove the directory that it put everything into
[02:36] <darkangel_> its a hp officejet 725 that i use for work. i have just given up windows
[02:36] <dooglus> ice9: did the new chroot get added to /etc/dchroot.conf?
[02:36] <soundray> darkangel_, did you set it up through System-Administration-Printing?
[02:37] <ice9> yes
[02:37] <ice9> I think its my fstab
[02:37] <dooglus> ice9: so you'll need to remove it from there, and remove the directory that that file mentions as being the root of the chroot
[02:37] <Victorjiang> system/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I solve this problem?
[02:37] <dooglus> ice9: you think that /etc/dchroot.conf is your fstab?
[02:37] <ice9> is screwed up
[02:38] <ice9> no
[02:38] <ice9> ./etc/fstab
[02:38] <ice9> is screwed up
[02:38] <ice9> from doing it before
[02:38] <dooglus> ice9: you want to remove the "bind" lines then I guess
[02:38] <Delvien> QZR cool did a script to convert to Jpeg as well as one to convert to PNG
[02:38] <brian_> im stuck and new to linux. im trying to install an mplayer rpm. synaptic does not seem to see the file on my desktop even if i search for it. any help would be great. any documentation ive read is vague to a newbie like me
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu, tell brian_ about mplayer
[02:39] <_jason> brian_, don't use rpm's
[02:39] <ice9> can I see your gedit /etc/fstab file pls
[02:39] <ElitePete> brian_, .deb is your friend
[02:39] <ice9> just so I know its right
[02:40] <soundray> flodine, how are you getting on?
[02:40] <_jason> brian_, mplayer is available in the repositories, ubotu sent you a link with instructions
[02:40] <QRZ> Delvien:  Nice!  If you are interested in my virus scanner script for Nautilus, you can get it here ---> http://rob.pectol.com/myscripts/vscan  It requires Clam Anti-virus which can be easily gotten by doing, "sudo apt-get install clamav" at the command prompt.
[02:40] <kacike> brian_: Synaptic will only see programs that you install using a .deb package
[02:40] <cafuego> QRZ: isn't scanning for windows viruses in nautilus a tad pointless?
[02:41] <dooglus> ice9: it's not a case of right or wrong.  you set your fstab up how you want it.  if you want parts of the parent filesystem mounted inside the chroot, you use a 'bind' line to make that happen
[02:41] <QRZ> cafuego:  Nope!
[02:41] <Delvien> QRZ no thank you , i find clam to be a pain in my arse, i dont use a virus scanner hehe :)
[02:41] <dooglus> ice9: my fstab is specific to my system
[02:41] <ubuntu> hey again! I' tring to fix a friend's grub... I got an error 21 (???). I'm trying to do a chroot but I have no idea on where is his linux partition (neither does he)... How can I find out that?
[02:41] <cafuego> QRZ: apart from that, good work :-)
[02:41] <ice9> see I'm going off of a tutorial from ubuntuforums
[02:41] <ice9> can I show you what mine looks like then
[02:41] <QRZ> cafuego:  Many folks use linux boxes in conjunction with windows boxes.  It's nice to be able to scan files from within Linux.  :-)
[02:42] <cafuego> QRZ: Yeah, the mta does that here ;-)
[02:42] <cafuego> QRZ: You need to add a licence to teh script
[02:42] <josh> so now what
[02:42] <QRZ> cafuego:  I have active virus scanning on my mailservers as well.
[02:42] <QRZ> cafuego:  GPL?
[02:42] <josh> what i type in from the terminal?
[02:43] <cafuego> QRZ: You the author, you pick ;-)
[02:43] <soundray> ubuntu, entering 'geometry (hd0)' in the grub shell should show you the partitions and their types.
[02:43] <exium> Does anyone here have time to explain to a newbie something about max resolution?
[02:43] <QRZ> cafuego:  GPL is what I usually put on my software.
[02:43] <soundray> exium, nobody ever has time. Just ask your question anyway.
[02:43] <Delvien> QRZ any idea how to look up a Konquror script so i may use that script for nautilus?
[02:44] <josh> hola?
[02:44] <wilymage> haha gimps
[02:44] <josh> i'm lost, confused, and lonely
[02:44] <QRZ> Delvien:  I wasn't aware that Konqueror had anything similar...
[02:44] <keron> josh, what do you want to do?
[02:44] <ordinary> im lost confused and lonely tooi
[02:45] <josh> keron, i want to set my account to admin b/c my comp doesn't recognize me as one and it won't let me access any admin menus
[02:46] <dooglus> josh: are you logged in as the very first account you created?
[02:46] <josh> yes
[02:46] <dooglus> josh: in a terminal, run "groups".  what does that tell you?
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> what do I use to erase cds ?
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> program...
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> which One?
[02:46] <ELpH95o> anyone have a list of unofficial ubuntu apt-lists
[02:46] <josh> josh adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[02:47] <jenda> CaptainMorgan: GnomeBaker
[02:47] <TheCyrus> Hey can someone help me with instalation?
[02:47] <corvax> gnomebaker or k3b
[02:47] <soundray> TheCyrus, nobody knows until you say what the problem is.
[02:47] <dooglus> josh: looks like you're in group "adm" but not "admin".  could you have removed yourself from "admin" maybe?
[02:47] <frogzoo> TheCyrus: asking to ask is spam - just leap in
[02:48] <josh> yup, prolly
[02:48] <npfet> anyone have a benq lcd?
[02:48] <josh> how do i change it?
[02:48] <TheCyrus> ok, sorry about that. When i try to install Breezy x86, I get past the paritioning
[02:48] <TheCyrus> but everytime, i get a debootstrap error
[02:48] <ubuntu> how can I wipe out the MBR????
[02:48] <TheCyrus> and i can't continue.
[02:48] <sureshot> hey why wont my su password work as the main account created when enstaled
[02:48] <CaptainMorgan> cheers
[02:48] <dooglus> josh: in that case you'll have to add yourself back to you group.  you can't do that without rebooting into single-user mode
[02:48] <bimberi> ubotu tell sureshot about sudo
[02:48] <ELpH95o> btw in ubuntu can you use debian apt sites too?
[02:48] <kargath64> what's a bootstrap in linux anyway?
[02:48] <frogzoo> TheCyrus: do you get an error or what?
[02:48] <kargath64> !sudo
[02:49] <dooglus> josh: once you've removed your right to be root, you no longer have permission to decide who can be root and who can't.
[02:49] <bimberi> ELpH95o: no, use the ubuntu repositories
[02:49] <ELpH95o> or use sources
[02:49] <ELpH95o> right?
[02:49] <flodine> soundray wants me to save it to my home/bin dont got one
[02:49] <Victorjiang>  system/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I solve this problem?
[02:49] <cafuego> ELpH95o: You can use debian deb-src yes.
[02:49] <alexandre_> portugues?
[02:49] <soundray> flodine, mkdir $HOME/bin
[02:49] <cafuego> !pt
[02:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:49] <_jason> !pt
[02:49] <josh> how do i add myself back to my group or something?
[02:50] <josh> u tell me what to do, i need to know HOW to do
[02:50] <frogzoo> josh: download "Recovery is Possible" - boot off it and edit the groups file
[02:50] <dooglus> josh: do you use 'grub'?  if so, can you boot into rescue mode?  and if so, does that give you a root prompt?  if you get a root prompt, type "adduser josh admin" at it, hit return, and reboot into ubuntu proper.
[02:50] <corvax> fdisk mbr
[02:50] <kargath64> !bootstrap
[02:50] <ubotu> kargath64: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:50] <cafuego> josh: boot in rescue mode. Run 'adduser username groupname'
[02:50] <soundray> ubuntulog, why erase MBR?
[02:50] <alexandre_> tem alguem pt-br?
[02:50] <QRZ> So it's true... ubotu is a female robot!
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> trying to blank a cd... getting permission denied.. how do give permission via the gui?
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> with gnomebaker
[02:51] <josh> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[02:51] <dooglus> josh: read the whole sentence.
[02:51] <keron> josh - thats why you need to reboot to rescue mode
[02:51] <josh> how
[02:51] <josh> is it an option when i boot up?
[02:51] <josh> there are many
[02:51] <cafuego> josh: Yes, it is.
[02:51] <josh> kk
[02:51] <dooglus> josh: "rescue" should be one of them
[02:51] <frogzoo> josh: should be an option in the grub menu when you boot
[02:51] <bimberi> josh: yes - look for "recovery mode"
[02:52] <dooglus> ok - recovery, yes
[02:52] <soundray> ubuntu, why do you want to erase the MBR?
[02:53] <sureshot> thanks guys will work on info given. if i can i will back with more questions. merry christmas
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> dah.... maybe I need to give sg0 permision..
[02:53] <cafuego> You have an actual scsi cdrw?
[02:54] <flodine> soundray will it make a diffrence what wm im in
[02:54] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, to me?
[02:55] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: yes
[02:55] <soundray> flodine, yes. But every wm I know of lets you set a program to launch after login.
[02:55] <soundray> flodine, what wm?
[02:55] <CaptainMorgan> yes..
[02:55] <flodine> soundray ob
[02:55] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: Then yes, add yerself to the 'cdrom' group (I think)
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> works
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[02:56] <soundray> flodine, is that openbox? No idea how that is configured.
[02:57] <flodine> soundray yeah
[02:57] <josh> thanks for all ur help guys
[02:57] <soundray> flodine, are you using it with Gnome?
[02:57] <flodine> soundray openbox
[02:57] <Victorjiang>  system/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization  mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I  solve this problem?
[02:57] <ice9>  No chroots found in config file '/etc/dchroot.conf'.
[02:58] <soundray> flodine, are you using openbox with Gnome?
[02:58] <ice9> how do I fix that
[02:58] <flodine> soundray no just ob
[02:58] <dle> Is anyone familiar with a buggy behaviour in breezy's gnome, where running an app from the panel creates an 'Authentication Required' dialogue?
[02:58] <josh> how do i type in japanese now?
[02:59] <sureshot> hey thanks that solved that problem
[02:59] <_jason> dle, what app?
[02:59] <sureshot> does anyone know how to compile and install gambas
[02:59] <sureshot> i keep erroring out
[02:59] <cafuego> !info gambas
[02:59] <ubotu> gambas: (Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 871 kB, Installed size: 2012 kB
[02:59] <soundray> flodine, http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php#6
[02:59] <dle> _jason - Well it started with totem; then when I tried doing System->Take screenshot... again there.
[03:00] <Xenguy> !evolution
[03:00] <ubotu> Not a clue, Xenguy
[03:00] <cafuego> Why are you compiling it? Enable 'universe' and install it via synaptic.
[03:00] <dle> _jason - http://bigstory.homelinux.org/tmp/wtf.png
[03:00] <Xenguy> riiiight
[03:00] <sureshot> i tride but it does not install
[03:00] <sureshot> i will try again though
[03:00] <sureshot> it does not show up on the menu
[03:00] <cafuego> Does not install giving WHAT error exactly?
[03:00] <_jason> dle, hrmm i've never seen that before.  My response was 'wtf' too
[03:00] <dle> nod :)
[03:01] <sureshot> hang on
[03:01] <sureshot> dont want to past the who screen so here is on line of errors
[03:01] <sureshot> gbc: ERROR: Cannot open file: /opt/gambas/share/gambas/info/gb.net.curl.list
[03:01] <sureshot> Compiling Networking/HTTPPost/...
[03:02] <_jason> dle, running from terminal gives no problems?
[03:02] <TheCyrus> Anyone? I'm getting a debootstrap error while installing? any help?
[03:02] <cafuego> /opt?
[03:02] <josh> is there an IME thing for lnx?
[03:02] <dle> _jason - That's right.
[03:02] <cafuego> sureshot: That's what you get when you run 'sudo apt-get install gambas' ?
[03:02] <Toma-> ime?
[03:02] <soundray> TheCyrus, be more specific.
[03:02] <josh> languages, like typing in japanese
[03:02] <sureshot> yes after ./configure and make
[03:02] <Toma-> yep
[03:03] <cafuego> sureshot: No, you shall NOT run ./configure OR make.
[03:03] <cafuego> sureshot: gambas is precompiled for Ubuntu, there are packages.
[03:03] <josh> nevermind
[03:03] <sureshot> ok i iwll try again .... thanks for your help
[03:03] <TheCyrus> well, I'm using the Breezy x86 pressed cd, and i can partition the drives, but when it gets to the installing the base system, it always aborts because of a debootstrap error or what not. I've tried the remedies suggested by some at the forums by using a different cd (burned at low speeds) and a different CD drive, but everytime, i experience that problem.
[03:04] <soundray> TheCyrus, with your description, it could be anything. You will have to report the actual error.
[03:05] <Chris_Tucker> how does one use networking sound?
[03:05] <Chris_Tucker> or networked sound
[03:05] <Chris_Tucker> whatever it is
[03:05] <Toma-> Chris_Tucker: ONE WOULD USE ESD
[03:05] <Toma-> oops
[03:05] <Toma-> sorry
[03:05] <soundray> TheCyrus, debootstrap could fail if your partition is too small, or if your HD is connected wrong, or...
[03:05] <soundray> TheCyrus, too many possibilities to list.
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- i mean to play sound on one computer, and have it come out of a different computers speakers?
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> esd does that/
[03:06] <HighHopes> How can I add an user to a group from command line?
[03:06] <TheCyrus> Well, considering i only have 1 hard drive, and have allocated 15 GB, i don't think those may be much of an issue.
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> ?
[03:06] <Toma-> Chris_Tucker: indeed.
[03:06] <soundray> HighHopes, adduser user group
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- any special instructions?
[03:06] <bimberi> HighHopes: sudo adduser <user> <group>
[03:06] <HighHopes> soundray, bimberi : THANKS!
[03:07] <Toma-> Chris_Tucker: "man esd"
[03:07] <soundray> TheCyrus, I am just illustrating that you need to be specific.
[03:07] <unf> buenas noches!
[03:07] <TheCyrus> And i'm aware of that, and thanks, i was just wondering if there were any ways to fix it without having to go through the whole process again.
[03:08] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- that doesnt say how to network sound
[03:08] <Toma-> telkls you have to start esd as a server, and how to listen to ip's for a server
[03:09] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- then how do i connnect to a server
[03:09] <Toma-> -tcp
[03:09] <RodrigoDLM> hi there, Im new with Ubuntu, what laptop do you best recommend to install it?
[03:10] <ELpH95o> new with linux?
[03:10] <sethk> RodrigoDLM, I'hve had good results with several.  Do you already have a laptop?
[03:10] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- intresting, one sec
[03:10] <ELpH95o> mm..i'd say sony
[03:10] <cafuego> RodrigoDLM: HP sells an Ubuntu laptop
[03:10] <sethk> RodrigoDLM, I hate HP's keyboard.
[03:10] <soundray> ELpH95o, Sony is *so* out of favor...
[03:11] <sethk> RodrigoDLM, better to pick a laptop that you like and investigate whether it is compatible
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> Toma-
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> 0% [ ]  44,746 547.37B/s ETA 8:17:19
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> er
[03:11] <cafuego> There's a laptop page on the wiki too, actually.
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> wrong paste
[03:12] <agorf> hello. is it possible to install additional software when using the ubuntu live cd?
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- it says esd is already running and socket is already in use
[03:12] <Toma-> well, "killall esd"
[03:12] <josh> how do i type in japanese or other languages???????????????????????
[03:12] <Toma-> iiimf
[03:13] <djk_> http://pastebin.com/474503  could someone take a look and tell me what it's saying between track 14 &&15 ?
[03:13] <cafuego> RodrigoDLM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Laptop&titlesearch=Titles
[03:13] <bimberi> agorf: sure, limited by ramdisk capacity though
[03:13] <agorf> bimberi, like python libraries and subversion? any urls?
[03:14] <RodrigoDLM> I would like a Laptop that gets the best out od 5.10
[03:14] <Toma-> bbl
[03:14] <Ep|phany> is there anything i could install that uses less resources then gnome?
[03:14] <cafuego> RodrigoDLM: Yes, check the page I posted, it has links to LOTS of info.
[03:14] <soundray> Ep|phany, check out xubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <bimberi> agorf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:15] <RodrigoDLM> thanks guys
[03:15] <Ep|phany> soundray: you think ill beable to get better battery life
[03:15] <josh> hlp
[03:16] <soundray> Ep|phany, if you get swapping activity with Gnome, then yes.
[03:16] <bimberi> agorf: or, modify sources.list and install using apt-get/synaptic ...
[03:16] <bimberi> ubotu tell agorf about sources
[03:16] <agorf> bimberi, you are talking about the livecd right?
[03:17] <bimberi> agorf: yep, mind you i've never done it - and any changes won't be permanent of course
[03:17] <agorf> bimberi, ok thanks :)
[03:18] <bimberi> agorf: np :)
[03:19] <agorf> bimberi, one more thing. is there a detailed list of the packages included in the livecd 5.10?
[03:20] <Delvien> ANYONE know how to add a music file to your AMAROK playlist using a SCRIPT  http://pastebin.com/474508 thats what i got
[03:20] <Froo> Good evening, good people. Do any of you have any skill troubleshooting Ubuntu sound?
[03:20] <martianpenguin> hey, is it possible to install the 2.6.15 kernel image instead of compiling from source?
[03:20] <martianpenguin> Froo, if it's like other linux sound then sure
[03:21] <jsgotangco> martianpenguin, its already the test kernel in dapper
[03:21] <martianpenguin> jsgotangco, so how would i do it in breezy?
[03:21] <jsgotangco> ahh tricky
[03:21] <martianpenguin> jsgotangco, i don't want to update everything, just the kernel
[03:21] <mrkoje> where is the dictionary file in ubuntu?
[03:21] <josh> anyone wanna help ? ;-D
[03:22] <martianpenguin> josh, with what?
[03:22] <sethk> josh, when nobody answers, nobody knows the answer to your question
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- when i start esd with -tcp, it doesnt recognize the ip i input for a computer to connect to
[03:22] <josh> setting it up so i can type in different language's character sets
[03:22] <Froo> martianpenguin: Great. What would you try first if you got this error from xmms? - "Couldn't open audio - Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You have the correct output plugin selected No other program is blocking the soundcard"
[03:22] <bimberi> agorf: i don't know of one on the 'net sorry - though you could use "dpkg -l" to list them while running the CD
[03:22] <Knowerrors> Anbody know a website that suggests a username based on personal questions?
[03:23] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- how do i really connect to a remote computer to play that computers sound? its already running a server on a port
[03:23] <MoonRanger> where in Synaptic .. can i find a screen reader (for blind/visually impaired users)
[03:23] <martianpenguin> Froo, how about alsamixer, does that work... (that is if it's used in ubuntu)
[03:24] <Toma-> Chris_Tucker: no idea
[03:24] <Delvien> Dapper install 100%better than breezy was
[03:24] <agorf> bimberi, thx :>
[03:24] <Toma-> havent done it before. but esd is the way to go. try finding a howto on it
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> Toma- so you led me into a wild goose chase?
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> Toma-: that doesnt usually help people
[03:25] <Froo> martianpenguin: I don't have that program, and I cannot find it with apt.
[03:25] <Toma-> Chris_Tucker: i pointed you in the right direction
[03:25] <Toma-> anyway. bbl.
[03:25] <martianpenguin> is there a way to tell apt-get or the other package managers that I want to install a test version of one program but no otehrs?
[03:25] <liable> MoonRanger: check out festival, dunno if it does exactly what you are after though.
[03:26] <martianpenguin> Froo, interesting, which version of ubuntu are you running, im using a pretty fresh install and it works fine for me
[03:26] <pashaw> agorf, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.list
[03:26] <Kuyaedz> does anyone have suggestions for setting up Thunderbird (or Evolution) with an msn.com email account?
[03:26] <Froo> martianpenguin: Version 5.04
[03:26] <liable> Kuyaedz: you prolly want hotwayd
[03:26] <martianpenguin> Kuyaedz, is msn.com a pop email?
[03:26] <bimberi> MoonRanger: i got screader and yasr (amongst others) with a 'screen reader' search in Synaptic (Name & Description)
[03:27] <MoonRanger> ok
[03:27] <Lukian> MoonRanger: screader and yasr show up in mine (with universe and multiverse)
[03:27] <Kuyaedz> martianpenguin: as far as I know hotmail & msn are proprietary MS crap but I've heard it can be done..
[03:27] <martianpenguin> Kuyaedz, oh, im not familiar with it then
[03:28] <martianpenguin> Froo, is that breezy badger?
[03:28] <liable> Kuyaedz: hotmail can be retrieved with hotwayd, sent (supposedly) with hotsmtp..
[03:28] <Froo> martianpenguin: Hoary
[03:28] <martianpenguin> Froo, I'm new to ubuntu... but alsa should be the same on all distros
[03:28] <Kuyaedz> martianpenguin: yeah, if its standard pop3 I'd have no problem.. its the proprietary non-interoperable MS protocols that are getting me
[03:28] <agorf> pashaw, gr8 thanks :)
[03:28] <martianpenguin> Kuyaedz, I would search google then
[03:28] <pashaw> agorf, np  :P
[03:29] <martianpenguin> Kuyaedz, or check if there is anything on mozilla's site or forums
[03:29] <martianpenguin> Kuyaedz, maybe a plugin
[03:29] <Xenguy> Anyone use Evolution to fetch Exchange mail?  Is evolution still unstable?
[03:29] <bimberi> MoonRanger: gnopernicus looks more promising too - and is integrated with the System -> Preferences -> Assistive Technology Support menu item
[03:29] <agorf> what a pitty. i only miss subversion :/
[03:31] <bimberi> Kuyaedz: gotmail or hotway might be worth a try
[03:31] <martianpenguin> Froo, do you not have all the repositories enabled?
[03:31] <martianpenguin> Froo, alsamixer is not a new program
[03:31] <frogzoo> Xenguy: to get evolution to work with exchange, it seems you need the exchange admin's cooperation to get it set up
[03:32] <Kuyaedz> bimberi: thanks
[03:32] <martianpenguin> Froo, and if it's not working, then your sound definitely won't work
[03:32] <Xenguy> frogzoo: I tried once today and got it working, but haven't had much of a chance to play yet
[03:32] <pashaw> agorf, what do you mean? subversion 1.20 can be added through Synaptic
[03:32] <Xenguy> frogzoo: it doesn't seem an admin is necessary in my situation tho
[03:32] <pashaw> agorf, sorry subversion 1.2.0
[03:32] <Froo> I don't have alsamixer on my machine.
[03:32] <sureshot> ok i am back. reinstalled gambas from the repository it does not show up on programing menu.   i am so new at this all i am trying
[03:33] <martianpenguin> Froo, do you use alsa for sound?
[03:33] <Froo> It's cool - I have someone here helping me now.
[03:33] <martianpenguin> k
[03:33] <Froo> Thanks.
[03:33] <agorf> pashaw, ill be working with live cd
[03:33] <meepy> As a linux newbie, and shell scripting - what is the variable to echo the dir you are in?
[03:33] <aeon17x> pwd
[03:33] <aeon17x> Er... maybe not.
[03:33] <martianpenguin> does any one know if there is another channel for development stuff like dapper?
[03:33] <ice9> I need to change back my locales from utf8  to ISO how do I DO THAT
[03:33] <aeon17x> But it does show what dir you're in.
[03:34] <Xenguy> cwd ?
[03:34] <meepy> pwd!
[03:34] <ice9> also does ubuntu have a recovery program
[03:34] <ice9> if YOUR system is screwed up
[03:35] <martianpenguin> ice9, screwed up in what way?
[03:35] <blanky> hey guys, I'm going to resize my partitions, but I have these three partitions; / - ext2 - primary, extended - primary, linux swap - logical
[03:35] <blanky> now, i know i leave the swap alone
[03:35] <ice9> my locales
[03:35] <blanky> but then wtf with extended? and i resize ext2 right?
[03:35] <ice9> i can't use gtk now
[03:36] <ice9> I tried to install iglooftp
[03:36] <aeon17x> blanky: what are you going to use to resize your partitions?
[03:36] <ice9> and got a alot of errors
[03:36] <martianpenguin> ice9, i was experiencing errors with that before... but it didn't seem to actually effect anything
[03:36] <blanky> im using partition magic (windows)
[03:36] <ice9> it won't even run
[03:36] <ice9> can I show you the errors
[03:36] <MoonRanger> !kde
[03:36] <ubotu> I guess kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:37] <sureshot> does any one know why a package installed by snyaptic does not show up on the poper menu ... (gambas) do i need to recompile do i need to do somthing else .. i am a newbie please help
[03:37] <martianpenguin> ice9, yeah, is there a flood channel?
[03:37] <Hoxzer> weee neeed more jelppa
[03:37] <ice9> no I can just pm it to you
[03:37] <martianpenguin> or that
[03:37] <ice9> k one sec
[03:37] <liable> #flood?
[03:38] <martianpenguin> idk, i didn't remember if this was the server that had that
[03:38] <cafuego> sureshot: Open a ternimal window,s type 'gambas' and hit return.
[03:38] <SealyDave> downloaded sun package got; dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)
[03:38] <SealyDave> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
[03:38] <SealyDave> dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):
[03:38] <SealyDave>  subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
[03:38] <SealyDave> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:38] <SealyDave>  sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[03:38] <martianpenguin> or if all servers do that
[03:38] <sureshot> ok trying
[03:38] <cafuego> SealyDave: disk full?
[03:38] <SealyDave> no 2 gb free
[03:38] <cafuego> /tmp full?
[03:39] <sureshot> i get the following error
[03:39] <bimberi> sureshot: yes, some packages don't create menu entries.  If nothing has appeared in the Applications Menu for Gambas then you can create an entry using Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[03:39] <sureshot> sizeof(CLASS) = 256 !
[03:39] <sureshot> ERROR: #51: Bad archive: Invalid argument
[03:39] <SealyDave> thought temp did not have limit
[03:39] <frogzoo> SealyDave: df -k
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> anybody recommend a better ftp program than gftp ?
[03:39] <cafuego> SealyDave: That depends on where it is.
[03:39] <sureshot> it is already there is the issue
[03:39] <sureshot> in the menu editor
[03:39] <bimberi> CaptainMorgan: Nautilus (via Places -> Connect to Server)
[03:39] <SealyDave> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[03:39] <SealyDave> /dev/hda1              5953436   2503264   3147752  45% /
[03:39] <SealyDave> tmpfs                    63472         0     63472   0% /dev/shm
[03:39] <SealyDave> tmpfs                    63472     12588     50884  20% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-38
[03:39] <martianpenguin> CaptainMorgan, ftp
[03:40] <Madpilot> !tell SealyDave about pastebin
[03:40] <cafuego> Please don't paste blocks of output.
[03:41] <jordo23_> Any good P2P platforms for Ubuntu?
[03:41] <Madpilot> jordo23: Gnome BitTorrent is included by default...
[03:41] <frogzoo> jordo23_: azureus
[03:41] <aTypical> Hello All
[03:41] <randabis> !p2p
[03:41] <ubotu> well, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[03:41] <martianpenguin> jordo23_, bittorrent
[03:41] <Hoxzer> er... platform?
[03:41] <Hoxzer> well you can "translate" DC++
[03:41] <ice9> martian turn off your spam block
[03:41] <jordo23_> Is the Ubuntu version of BitTorrent any good? Or is there something better?
[03:41] <MoonRanger> !kde
[03:41] <ubotu> hmm... kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:41] <SealyDave> so yeah
[03:41] <SealyDave> hi
[03:42] <Hoxzer> jordo23_: azureus
[03:42] <martianpenguin> ice9, i have spam block on?
[03:42] <ice9> yeah
[03:42] <Hoxzer> or bittornado
[03:42] <martianpenguin> ice9, how do i turn it off, i'm using all defaults in this client
[03:42] <jordo23_> Hoxzer: Is there a package for Azureus?
[03:42] <cafuego> ice9: freenode has it enabled. register with nickserv.
[03:42] <frogzoo> !tell jordo23_ about azureus
[03:42] <martianpenguin> ice9, yeah, you can't pm unless you're registered
[03:42] <ice9> k
[03:42] <Hoxzer> jordo23_: yes, but I didn't got update work with it so I installed it form tar.gz
[03:43] <cafuego> ice9: So in effect: stop being spam, and you won't be blocked ;-)
[03:43] <Hoxzer> just extract the tar and then in azureus folder "./azureus" and azureus will start
[03:43] <meepy> Is this correct? : exec gnome-terminal --working-directory=%PWD ----- It should exec gnome-terminal in the folder where you click the script
[03:43] <blanky> hey guys what do I need extended for? ubuntu created it
[03:43] <blanky> guys, what do i need extended partition for?
[03:43] <aTypical> How do I fix and/or workaround this error? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:44] <cafuego> aTypical: Scroll up and find the actual error.
[03:44] <mindtriggerz[h1> hi dave62189
[03:44] <aTypical> blanky, because you can only have so many primary partitions.
[03:44] <dave62189> mindtriggerz
[03:44] <adroc> hello peeps
[03:44] <aTypical> cafuego, I'm using synaptic and that's the only message that shows.
[03:44] <blanky> Hey guys! What do I need partition ex... aTypical thanks
[03:44] <SealyDave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6010
[03:44] <adroc> can someone help me
[03:44] <blanky> Atypical, so I must keep it?
[03:44] <adroc> can u install .deb packages on ubuntu?
[03:44] <aTypical> blanky, what's on it?
[03:45] <blanky> yeah, most of the times
[03:45] <martianpenguin> adroc, yeah
[03:45] <blanky> aTypical, nothing that i know of ....
[03:45] <jasonjdp> lol, ive been having trouble with my onboard audio. and aparently the jumpers where turned off on the mobo.  if i switch the jumpers will ubuntu auto recognize the onboard audio (hopefully) or is a recompile needed?
[03:45] <blanky> what's on your extended, aTypical
[03:45] <adroc> because im trying to install nessus 3
[03:45] <bimberi> blanky: iirc, the swap partition will be created within the primary exteded partition
[03:45] <blanky> bimberi, really? Cause my swap partition is seperate
[03:45] <adroc> but im getting an error
[03:45] <aTypical> blanky, you create partitions for data on your system.  Did you create the partitions or did the system do it for you?
[03:46] <blanky> aTypical, the 'system'/ubuntu did it for me
[03:46] <blanky> automatically
[03:46] <bimberi> blanky: they look separate yes
[03:46] <aTypical> blanky, then do not remove them.
[03:46] <blanky> so I have 36 gigs of primary ext2, 1.4 gigs of exended primary, and 1.4 gigs of swap
[03:46] <bimberi> blanky: are they the same size?
[03:46] <fit4lfe> martian you get the msg ?
[03:46] <blanky> bimberi yeah!
[03:46] <bimberi> blanky: ah ha!
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> OMG!
[03:46] <blanky> bimberi so they're necessary right?
[03:46] <blanky> lol
[03:46] <jordo23_> How do you tell which version of Ubuntu you are running in command line?
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> ive figured out netwokred sound
[03:46] <bimberi> blanky: yep
[03:47] <SealyDave> so yeah can i get some help with my sun java instal please?
[03:47] <bimberi> jordo23_: lsb_release -a
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> export ESPEAKER=server:port
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> YAY
[03:47] <jasonjdp> if you add a soundcard, do you need to recompile to detect it?
[03:47] <adroc> d
[03:48] <jordo23_> bimberi thanks
[03:48] <adroc> has anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?
[03:48] <bimberi> jordo23: np :)
[03:48] <adroc> i have 2.x already but want to upgrade
[03:48] <SealyDave> anyone?
[03:49] <adroc> can anyone help
[03:49] <sureshot> ok i totaly romoved gampas from my system. i am going to download it and reinstall it ... should i use add applications or snyaptic ....
[03:49] <martianpenguin> SealyDave, what was your error?
[03:49] <Madpilot> sureshot: either - they use the same back-end
[03:49] <martianpenguin> SealyDave, you have to download the files from sun's site right?
[03:49] <adroc> anyone
[03:50] <pashaw> SealyDave, you could use Automatix for that program
[03:50] <sureshot> ok .. after install. if it is not in the menu how do i start the program .. do i go to a term and just type gambas. i cant seem to find wear it is installed at
[03:50] <SealyDave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6012
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> !ftp
[03:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, CaptainMorgan
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> damn..
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> stumped the bot... legitimately..
[03:51] <alphy> where do I get the plugins to play my mp3's?
[03:52] <bimberi> alphy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:53] <SealyDave> anyone?
[03:54] <dan> hey, I am not getting any lights on my wireless card
[03:54] <dan> i know that the card is at least recognized
[03:54] <martianpenguin> dan, neither am I
[03:54] <daemonic> whee
[03:54] <sureshot> sorry to sound like a broken record but does anyone here know how to get gambas to run. i cant find it or seem to run it form a term
[03:54] <SealyDave> pee pee for bung hole
[03:54] <bimberi> sureshot: yes, if it's not in the menu you can start it from the a terminal (or create a menu entry) - "dpkg -L gambas" will show you what files were installed
[03:55] <sureshot> thanks that is new info
[03:55] <daemonic> who here is running the x86 64bit?
[03:55] <bimberi> sureshot: or try 'dpkg -L gambas | grep bin' to see what executables were installed
[03:56] <frogzoo> SealyDave: file sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb   ?
[03:56] <dan> I'm not getting any power to my wireless card
[03:56] <SealyDave> yeah
[03:56] <martianpenguin> hey what was that list of packages for ubuntu in the repositories
[03:56] <cafuego> daemonic: I was until last friday.
[03:56] <satoshi> hail
[03:56] <frogzoo> SealyDave: I mean, u sure it's a .deb - not a .deb.gz etc
[03:56] <dan> do you know how to turn on the wireless card?
[03:57] <bimberi> martianpenguin: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <SealyDave> http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/
[03:57] <daemonic> cafuego: what made you stop using it?
[03:57] <cafuego> daemonic: Lack of support for media
[03:57] <redvelvet> dan, you just started didnt you?
[03:57] <dan> yeah, I did
[03:57] <redvelvet> dan, are you gay?
[03:57] <daemonic> cafuego: hmm, like?
[03:57] <dan> just installed a few minutes ago
[03:57] <cafuego> daemonic: video, flash, java
[03:57] <daemonic> cafuego: hmm, you mean no video?
[03:58] <cafuego> daemonic: Well, MPEGs played, but couldn't be resized. Not much luck with xvids & oggs.
[03:58] <redvelvet> dan, im just kidding
[03:58] <cafuego> daemonic: For a server, 64bit is fine. I don't think it's ready yet for day-to-day desktop use.
[03:58] <bimberi> nice one redvelvet
[03:58] <triceratops> Did anyonne succeed adding a podcast URL to Rhythmbox 0.9.2? I always get an error message 'Error in podcqast \n (null)'
[03:58] <jordo23_> Does apt have a command to install all dependant packages automatically?  I know it's supposed to be automatic, but I get messages stating that a dependant package exists but "Is not going to be installed."
[03:58] <sureshot> found it in /usr/bin   when i type gambas i get sizeof(class) = 256 error # 51 bad archive : invalid argument
[03:59] <daemonic> cafuego: wow that sucks. I just bought this amd 64 and installed ubuntu (only 64bit dist I had around) and was hoping it'd all work.
[03:59] <redvelvet> bimberi, sorry, i was just messing with a friend
[03:59] <daemonic> cafuego: guess I was wrong
[03:59] <frogzoo> SealyDave: wonders if you 1st executed this step 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common'
[03:59] <bimberi> redvelvet: ah
[03:59] <cafuego> daemonic: Well, you can make it work with a 32bit chroot, but that's more hassle than its worth too.
[03:59] <redvelvet> can anyone help me out with a wireless card
[03:59] <cafuego> daemonic: Make sure you have /home on a separate partition and upgrading becomes an easy matter.
[03:59] <SealyDave> yeah done that, follwed all protocols on wiki restricted packages
[04:00] <daemonic> cafuego: yeah. damn, that whole 32bit chroot sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
[04:00] <jordo23_> anyone?
[04:00] <cafuego> Bueller?
[04:00] <SealyDave> fakeroot is already the newest version.
[04:00] <SealyDave> java-package is already the newest version.
[04:00] <SealyDave> java-common is already the newest version.
[04:01] <cafuego> jordo23_: That indicates you're missing one of the repositories, like say multiverse or universe.
[04:01] <jordo23_> cafuego: can I post my sources.list file somewhere and have you look at it?
[04:02] <satoshi> guys, I've followed this wiki ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29 ) on how to setup ndiswrapper so I could use my linksys wusb11, everything okay, and I added 'ndiswrapper' to the modules under etc/modules, now everytime Ubuntu starts to load, on that part "Calculating Module Dependencies etc..." it gives an error relationed with the ndiswrapper module, and it stops there, the system doesn't loads :S I could fix it if 
[04:02] <cafuego> jordo23_: If you have a web browser, I expect you can, yes.
[04:02] <daemonic> cafuego: don't suppose you know off hand if there's any chance of my nvidia card working in 64?
[04:02] <jordo23_> cafuego: where do you want me to post it?
[04:02] <cafuego> daemonic: Yes, they work fine in x64
[04:02] <daemonic> cafuego: ahh, good.
[04:02] <cafuego> !paste
[04:03] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:03] <alphy> why is the terminal telling me" Package j2re1.4 is not available"?
[04:03] <sureshot> does anyone know if gambas is x64 compatible
[04:03] <cafuego> !info j2re1.4
[04:03] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[04:04] <martianpenguin> sureshot, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gambas&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[04:04] <cafuego> alphy: Note 'multiverse'.
[04:04] <sureshot> aging thinks and sorry for sounding like a broken record. just get this to run arg
[04:05] <odat> hi everyone
[04:05] <SealyDave> take me to your leader
[04:05] <jsgotangco> bwahah
[04:05] <fushi> lol
[04:05] <cafuego> SealyDave: I'm already here.
[04:05] <bimberi> heh
[04:05] <jordo23_> cafuego: I posted it.
[04:05] <bimberi> :)
[04:05] <SealyDave> k, im anti linux right now, help
[04:05] <jsgotangco> all hail cafuego
[04:05] <blanky> xubuntu-desktop is my packge if i want fluxbox right?
[04:05] <cafuego> jordo23_: Mind sharing the link? :-)
[04:05] <SealyDave> i need some java
[04:05] <blanky> guys?
[04:06] <blanky> guys if i want fluxbox i get xubuntu-desktop right?
[04:06] <cafuego> blanky: No.
[04:06] <cafuego> blanky: xubuntu uses xfce4
[04:06] <mrkoje> SealyDave,  what could possibly be wrong?!
[04:06] <blanky> then just sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[04:06] <blanky> cafuego: okay
[04:06] <SealyDave> dont knwo
[04:06] <jordo23_> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6014
[04:06] <odat> anyone really know what program is best for windows media?
[04:06] <serg> just installed kubuntu (breezy, well reinstalled) i have a new gfx card (nvidia geforce 5200), reboot - fine, but when i do apt-get upgrade on a vanilla system and then try to reboot i get a system freez  during booting stage - it freezes on a line "checking battery status"  any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it?
[04:07] <cafuego> jordo23_: Yep, that looks fine. Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install j2re1.4'
[04:07] <alphy> cafuego, I have multiverse enabled
[04:07] <kakei> hi,hey if i download a font front dafont.com where i have to unzip it to use it
[04:08] <SealyDave> java is fun, lick my bum, fun fun fun, yum yum yum
[04:08] <Delvien> how do i add emifreqd daemon to autostart upon bootup
[04:09] <jordo23_> cafuego: it says it can't find the package j2rel.4
[04:09] <SealyDave> how do i install java and pretend im not dumb
[04:09] <frogzoo> !tell SealyDave about java
[04:11] <SealyDave> done. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6012
[04:11] <SealyDave> standing by..
[04:11] <pashaw> SealyDave, i already told you  you could use Automatix
[04:11] <SealyDave> how
[04:12] <blanky> hey guys, how can I run the x window manager (such thing?)
[04:12] <blanky> x window system or whatever
[04:12] <odat> SealyDave, have you ever used synaptic?
[04:12] <SealyDave> rgr
[04:12] <blanky> in other words, not gnome/kde/fluxbox/blackbox etc.
[04:12] <bimberi> !automatix
[04:12] <ubotu> methinks automatix is crap
[04:12] <Delvien> how do i add emifreqd daemon to autostart upon bootup
[04:12] <nuxGuru> need to exit Xserver to build and install Nvidia driver .. how do I ?
[04:13] <Kyral> blanky: X is the underlying thing of GNOME/KDE/Fluxbox
[04:13] <blanky> lol why is autoamtix crap
[04:13] <blanky> Kyral, I know that
[04:13] <intelikey> blanky xdm ?
[04:13] <odat> nuxGuru, why do you need to build the video driver?
[04:13] <blanky> but isn't there also xwindows or wahtever, like, when it doesn, yeah i think that, intelikey
[04:13] <blanky> I mean how there's sometimes windows with no themes
[04:13] <bimberi> methinks that factoid needs a bit more detail
[04:13] <sethk> blanky, You can run X with just a window manager
[04:13] <blanky> nvm it's hard to explain
[04:13] <Kyral> blanky: XDM/GDM/KDM just provide login managers
[04:13] <Kyral> blanky: TWM?
[04:13] <sethk> blanky, technically, it isn't really different than running a desktop
[04:14] <mrkoje> screw automatix....
[04:14] <intelikey> blanky icewm   or twm
[04:14] <sethk> blanky, although operationally of course it is much more difficult
[04:14] <pashaw> SealyDave, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[04:14] <blanky> Kyral, I know, man i dont know how to explain it :'(
[04:14] <blanky> like, you know how there's themes for window managers
[04:14] <blanky> so it affects the appearnace
[04:14] <sethk> blanky, as noted, twm, icewm, there is also fvwm, mwm (motif)
[04:14] <Kyral> twm is literally just multiple XTerms open on one screen
[04:14] <sethk> blanky, lesstif, the motif clone, is lower overhead than even a small desktop like fluxbox, but a cut above twm
[04:14] <blanky> sometimes theres windows that have no theme, and look old with the weird scroll bars (pointy), and no x button, well it does have an x button but it looks different
[04:15] <jordo23_> cafuego: you there?
[04:15] <sethk> Kyral, no, that isn't quite true.  the window manager does more than that
[04:15] <Daemonic> cafuego: damn. this sucks. you're right. media support blows.
[04:15] <Kyral> blanky: sudo apt-get install twm and see if thats it
[04:15] <nuxGuru> odat .. I do not have accss via Ubutu ..yet.. and and was trying to manually install the nvidia driver and appropiate drivers to get modem going
[04:15] <blanky> i dont know, Kyral, I doubt it. It's something normal, just an xwindow
[04:15] <intelikey> blanky sounds like twm
[04:16] <sethk> blanky, whether or not there is a pluggable theme for a particular window manager depends on how the windoe manager is architected.
[04:16] <blanky> not GTK, not QT, etc.
[04:16] <blanky> sethk, yeah i dont mean that though
[04:16] <blanky> watch i'll try to find a picture
[04:16] <odat> nuxGuru, do you mean that you can not get to the desktop yet because your nvidia driver isn't working?
[04:16] <sethk> blanky, twm, mwm, etc., don't require gtk or qt
[04:16] <blanky> almost looks like twm
[04:16] <sethk> blanky, you do need a minimal window manager running
[04:17] <sethk> blanky, twm looks just like twm
[04:17] <nuxGuru> odat .. no... am accessing web via windows..  booting Ubuntu takes me to the graphic interface
[04:17] <intelikey> :)
[04:17] <sethk> blanky, it's amazing  :)
[04:17] <Kyral> vtwm?
[04:17] <blanky> mwm is different, no wiat, man they both look like what i meant, twm looks more like it though
[04:17] <blanky> vtwm? let me see
[04:17] <sethk> nuxGuru, boot into single user mode.  It won't start the gui and you'll be able to install nvidia drivers
[04:17] <sethk> blanky, you mean fvwm
[04:17] <Kyral> ctwm?
[04:17] <jordo23_> Does anyone know why I get dependency errors when my sources.list looks like this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6014
[04:17] <blanky> yeah i think it's vtwm, i mainly look at the top right corner of the window, the weird buttons
[04:18] <nuxGuru> I tried that  and failed ..
[04:18] <sethk> nuxGuru, what happened?
[04:18] <kakei> hi,hey if i download a font front dafont.com where i have to unzip it to use it
[04:18] <blanky> nah not fvwm, i guess it's twm
[04:18] <odat> nuxGuru, the appropriate drivers were probably installed when the system was installed
[04:18] <blanky> yeah it looks like twm
[04:18] <nuxGuru> am an ex Unix guru from the 80s .. so much of what I look at today is obscure
[04:18] <sethk> jordo23, whatever dependency errors you get are not caused by that repository configuration
[04:18] <blanky> brb guys, thanks
[04:18] <intelikey> i believe twm was the default 'failsafe kind' of wm that x used to always install.... xfree86 that is.
[04:19] <jordo23_> sethk: what's wrong with it?
[04:19] <nuxGuru> the system wants to run my video at 50Hz .. and have not figured out a way to gt it higher ..so was thinking it was the video driver
[04:20] <Nebular> on boot I'm getting a kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task
[04:20] <pashaw> nuxGuru, have you read the help page?  System-> Help (look at bottom) Starter Guide -> (left pane click Hardware)
[04:20] <sethk> jordo23, nothing
[04:20] <Nebular> I have no idea what that means and google hasn't been much help
[04:20] <sethk> intelikey, that's was true a while ago, although fvwm is much closer to a usable window manager (IMHO) and is/was available with the xfree distribution without any additional desktop stuff.
[04:20] <nuxGuru> have read alot .... is this on the system or atr ubuntu web page
[04:20] <jordo23_> sethk: what should I do?
[04:21] <pashaw> nuxGuru, you Ubuntu desktop menu
[04:21] <SealyDave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6015  and then nothing
[04:21] <nuxGuru> k thanks.. another question
[04:21] <sethk> jordo23, first, tell us what error you are getting
[04:21] <bluefoxicy> http://rafb.net/paste/results/T6F5I721.html
[04:21] <bluefoxicy> Read 'em and weep.
[04:21] <bluefoxicy> Tests on Dapper.  :)
[04:22] <nuxGuru> am trying to get pengaol installed.. fails to install normally .. so attempt to compile and install .. this also fails.. any hints ?
[04:23] <sethk> nuxGuru, nobody can possibly help you without the _exact_ error message you get, and without knowing exactly what you were doing when the error occured
[04:23] <jordo23_> sethk:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6016
[04:23] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: you did read a recent series of posts on planet.gnome.org regarding memory usage (and measuring that) in gnome apps?
[04:24] <sethk> jordo23, that says, simply, that it does not know of a package named j2rel.4.  That is possibly because there is no such package.  Where did you get that name?  you should use synaptic, and do a search for packages with java in the description and/or j2 in the name
[04:24] <frogzoo> !tell sethk about java
[04:24] <sethk> frogzoo, don't tell me, I'm not installing java
[04:25] <nuxGuru> peng aol error : kernel30.h:152:error!  ... more>'
[04:25] <sethk> !tell jordo23_ about java
[04:26] <nuxGuru> ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'CAolCmd30' with no type
[04:26] <sethk> nuxGuru, don't show us half an error and then one typed line
[04:26] <sethk> nuxGuru, that is an error in the source code
[04:26] <sethk> nuxGuru, although probably you aren't telling us the first error
[04:26] <sethk> nuxGuru, all errors after the first error are meaningless.  there is probably a header file not found, or an error in the header file that would be defining that type
[04:27] <martianpenguin> i just installed the 2.6.15 kernel... and my touchpad stopped working... has anyone else had this problem?
[04:27] <nuxGuru> that is all the error .. is also followed by several "" expected ';'' before '*' token.. then exits make
[04:27] <sethk> nuxGuru, so capture the _entire_ output, put it on a paste bot, and then give us here the url to the pastebot
[04:27] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  nope
[04:27] <jordo23_> sethk: I am trying to install azureus and I get unmet dependencies when processing the dpkg file.....  this is what happened...    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6017
[04:27] <nuxGuru> what is a past bot?
[04:27] <rikai> err, what's the best way to install kde on a normal ubuntu install (non-kubuntu)...?
[04:28] <jordo23_> rikai: apt-get install kde
[04:28] <rikai> jordo23, not kubuntu-desktop?
[04:28] <pashaw> rikai, either  your command installs all kde apps with it
[04:28] <sethk> jordo23, that lists a number of packages that may be missing.  The name you came up with before doesn't appear in that list at all.
[04:28] <Toba> argh
[04:28] <frogzoo> !tell nuxGuru about pastebin
[04:29] <Toba> eye of gnome is broken in 5.10
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  I did a full system measure
[04:29] <Toba> it crashes when you use it to delete a file
[04:29] <sethk> jordo23, that looks like java/swing development libraries, and java/swing/gtk support is missing
[04:29] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: uhh...i can't find the post right now ... the problem is not in measuring, its in defining what exactly you measure
[04:29] <nuxGuru> I am not afraid to read stuff.. just need to get pointed in right direction
[04:29] <jordo23_> sethk: someone else told me to install that package. what do I do? When I try to apt for the dependent packages, it says the other are missing dependants.
[04:30] <sethk> jordo23, It says you are trying to replace azureus.  (this may be because of an earlier partial install.)  I thing the first thing to do is to try to remove azureus.  That may get you back to a state where it can automatically find and install the dependencies.
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: 'free' doesn't report how much memory is free actually - you may have cached data in memory that actually isn't using it (and will be purged when needed), also when you look at the memory consumption on per-process basis, you can see that many programs/libraries mmap files (icons, themes, etc), which gets marked as memory usage but actually isn't (its the file on the disk), ....
[04:31] <sethk> jordo23, you can do what it suggests in the error message, which is to force the install even without meeting the depedencies, but that's usually a bad idea
[04:31] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  did you even read the paste?
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: so it's kinda hard to determine the correct value; that said, you do have a point about gnome being a bit over-hungry (in both memory and cpu sense :)
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: yes
[04:31] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  I cut out the disk cache because it's treated as free memory when memory runs low anyway.
[04:32] <sethk> jordo23, it believes that everything is already installed, and it only needs to configure, but that's obviously not the case.
[04:32] <dkelson> I'm trying to install Dapper FT2 on my AMD64 box with an Areca RAID controller. I can't find the arcmsr kernel module, although a post on ubuntu-devel someone said the driver was there. Help?
[04:32] <ilpavox> have a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.  anyone have this problem?
[04:32] <sethk> jordo23, by removing first, I'm hoping that it will realize it has to install, and then it will do the normal thing which is to also install required dependencies
[04:32] <bimberi> jordo23_: btw, what are you running ubuntu on?
[04:32] <seanhammond_> Hi - I just installed Hula as per the instructions on the wiki, and when I try to visit localhost.localdomain port 89 or 8080 I get Connection Refused. If I run hulamanager it outputs 'Hula web administration server not configured; skipping', anyone know what the problem is?
[04:33] <jordo23_> bimberi: dell laptop.
[04:33] <bimberi> jordo23: ok (so i386)
[04:33] <jordo23_> sethk: is there an apt package for Azureus? If so I can't find it.
[04:34] <taydad> How do I switch from ubuntu to edubuntu?
[04:34] <dkelson> Is there a newer install ISO than the FT2 iso?
[04:34] <superneo> does any1 know how to install oddcastv3-jack-3.1.6tar.gz
[04:34] <bimberi> taydad: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <Toba> for synaptic to do a force version downgrade, I need to have backports right?
[04:35] <Victorjiang> How can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.
[04:35] <ilpavox> anyone see my question
[04:36] <eclair> ilpavox: i haven't had that problem :(
[04:36] <Toba> ilpavox: what was it?
[04:36] <bimberi> dkelson: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[04:36] <ilpavox> toba: have a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.
[04:36] <Toba> hrm, I dunno
[04:36] <Toba> never had that problem
[04:36] <Toba> (I just read up and saw it)
[04:36] <ilpavox> gah
[04:36] <Toba> sorry :(
[04:36] <intelikey> superneo source tarball    unpack (tar -xzf)  read the docs, and probably  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:36] <Toba> hrm I really dislike the new version of eye of gnome
[04:36] <taydad> Thanks I will look into it and get back to you if I have more Qs.
[04:37] <Toba> crashes, slow, and spams the terminal
[04:37] <frogzoo> ilpavox: mebbe make the x server suid - but it's not necessary
[04:37] <Toba> :(
[04:37] <Toba> who develops eog, the gnome people?
[04:37] <Madpilot> Toba: try gThumb
[04:37] <Toba> gthumb eh?
[04:37] <dkelson> bimberi: thanks!
[04:38] <Madpilot> I like it better than eog, although the version in breezy has one really irritating bug...
[04:38] <Toba> I really like eye of gnome though
[04:39] <dkelson> bimberi, where can I get a list of kernel modules included with the daily install ISO?
[04:39] <sethk> jordo23, now you've lost me.  The apt package for azureus is listed in the thing you put on the pastebot
[04:40] <brenner> Toba: pic mgrs? i'm a big fan of gqview
[04:40] <bimberi> dkelson: sorry, i don't know
[04:40] <frenchy> hey does anyone know how to get the gstreamer in amarok to play mp3s
[04:40] <Toba> brenner: I don't want to manage my photos with it, I wrote some scripts for that that do exactly what I need
[04:40] <aTypical> frenchy, I believe that's covered in the Ubuntu Wiki
[04:40] <bimberi> dkelson: have a browse via http://packages.ubuntu.com - you might find something there
[04:40] <Toba> all I want to do is slideshows and simple rotating and deleting
[04:40] <frenchy> ok
[04:41] <Toba> I found the bug report in the gnome bug tracker though
[04:41] <Toba> somebody already submitted it
[04:41] <Toba> :/
[04:41] <aTypical> frenchy, have you read it?  I'm new so don't take what I say as the gospel.
[04:41] <brenner> Toba: you should be happy.  that saves you doing it :)
[04:42] <Toba> I know!
[04:42] <Victorjiang> How can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.
[04:42] <Toba> I just wonder how to confirm the report
[04:42] <rcmiv> i have the nvidia-legacy drivers installed and enabled, splashscreen comes up, but openGL is not working...?
[04:42] <Toba> since it's exactly what I have
[04:42] <rcmiv> for instance openGL screensavers don't go
[04:42] <frenchy> im looking riht now
[04:43] <rcmiv> any ideas?
[04:43] <bimberi> Victorjiang: there's a package called snmpd, i guess you'd need to install that
[04:43] <Victorjiang> bimeri:it is already installed.but there is not a command called service
[04:44] <DMJC> I'm running ubuntu linux
[04:44] <intelikey> calender app ?    not a schedualer, a calender that contains things like moon phases and eclipes and such; that one might browse different years in ????
[04:44] <DMJC> I want to what i want to do
[04:44] <DMJC> is setup a machine on my network to filter packets for priority
[04:44] <sorush20> guys any recommendation for very cheap domain registeration
[04:45] <DMJC> and share out my internet to the rest of the network
[04:45] <Victorjiang> bimeri:or how can I start the snmpd service by command line or gui?
[04:46] <DMJC> any good howto's on filtering traffic for games to give higher priority to packets?
[04:46] <dan> how do install my wireless card?  I have an airlink awlc3025
[04:46] <bimberi> Victorjiang: sudo invoke-rc.d snmpd restart
[04:47] <frenchy> oh all i had to do was install the gstreamer-mad plugin
[04:48] <sethk> DMJC, you want to give games _higher_ priority?
[04:49] <sethk> DMJC, regardless of the specifics, look at the traffic shaper thing
[04:49] <tyler7039> hi, how would i go about updated Firefox?
[04:49] <tyler7039> i downloaded the install package
[04:49] <tyler7039> the .gz
[04:49] <dan> anybody know how to install a wireless card?
[04:49] <tyler7039> but i dont know which file to run
[04:49] <Madpilot> tyler7039: wait until April when Dapper comes out with 1.5
[04:49] <Victorjiang> bimberi: thanks a lot. libsnmp9 and libsnmp-base are installed. but it tell me:/etc/init.d/snmpd not found.Do I need to install more package?
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, you mean it is a .tar.bz ?
[04:50] <intelikey> dan did you read the wiki ?
[04:50] <DMJC> sethk: home lan
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, sorry, tar.gz, not bz
[04:50] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:50] <frenchy> does anyone else use amarok?
[04:50] <B7su4> ~/Desktop$ peerguardnf
[04:50] <B7su4> peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:50] <DMJC> I want downloads to take a backseat to my ping
[04:50] <tyler7039> sethk, yes it was
[04:50] <sethk> DMJC, your ping?
[04:50] <tyler7039> i extracted it into a folder
[04:50] <dan> intelikey, no, new to the whole ubuntu thing
[04:50] <bimberi> Victorjiang: yes, the "snmpd" package (note the d)
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, then actually you don't have to run anything
[04:51] <intelikey> dan  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:51] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:51] <sethk> tyler7039, the firefox tar.gz files are ready to run
[04:51] <dan> intelikey, thanks, I'll check it out!
[04:51] <aTypical> Anyone running Dapper getting an error about locales when trying to update?
[04:51] <Victorjiang> bimberi:Where can I get it?
[04:51] <sethk> tyler7039, what I did was to copy them to a directory named /usr/local/firefox, and then I added /usr/local/firefox to my PATH
[04:51] <bob832> when picking between KDE and gnome, does it basically come down to pref?
[04:52] <bimberi> Victorjiang: sudo aptitude install snmpd (in a terminal)
[04:52] <sethk> tyler7039, add /usr/local/firefox to the _front_ of the path, because the older one is still in /usr/bin
[04:52] <tyler7039> oh, okay
[04:52] <tyler7039> thank you
[04:52] <dle> Has anyone found on Breezy, Gnome hanging in a half-stopped state when shutting down from the menu?
[04:52] <tyler7039> i get it
[04:53] <intelikey> sethk what is it a tarball of pre-compiled binarries ?
[04:53] <sethk> intelikey, yes
[04:53] <frenchy> dle does it hang or freeze?
[04:53] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:53] <sethk> intelikey, both firefox and thunderbird on mozilla.org are tarballs of binaries.  they have one for x86, and a few other common targets
[04:54] <Madpilot> bob832: yes. Except that KDE users are feature sluts, and Gnome is only usable by idiots :P
[04:54] <sethk> intelikey, of course you can also download the source, and I believe they have fedora and debian packages available
[04:54] <dle> frenchy - kind of a semantic difference. :)  It's effectively frozen -- unusable.
[04:54] <intelikey> so it would run on any *nix ?
[04:54] <frenchy> B7su4 have you search synaptic for libstdc++ or something similar
[04:55] <B7su4> frenchy, no, how can i do that?
[04:55] <frenchy> dle: mine hangs a little when logging out but that was because i didnt have my vid driver installed
[04:55] <jiangguowei> bimberi:You are so enthusiastic!  sudo aptitude install snmpd
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Reading extended state information
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Initializing package states... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Building tag database... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> No candidate version found for snmpd
[04:55] <jiangguowei> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> Writing extended state information... Done
[04:56] <brenner> Madpilot: heh. what do you use?
[04:56] <jiangguowei> bimberi:why no package is downloaded?
[04:56] <bimberi> jiangguowei: thanks, but don't paste in here like that please
[04:56] <frenchy> B7su4 do you use synaptic
[04:56] <Madpilot> brenner: I'm an idiot :P
[04:57] <Madpilot> brenner: there was a post about two weeks ago by Linus Torvalds slagging Gnome, hence the idiots/feature slut comment
[04:57] <bimberi> jiangguowei: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:57] <B7su4> i think so
[04:57] <B7su4> frenchy, ^
[04:58] <jiangguowei> bimberi:sorry.Ok
[04:58] <brenner> Madpilot: i haven't use kde for a while, but yeah, i sort of agree with the other comment.  one of the things i'd like in gnome is more power
[04:58] <frenchy> B7su4 how do you install yoru packages
[04:58] <Madpilot> bimberi: it's a talent I have :P
[04:58] <brenner> but then again i find it really usable
[04:59] <intelikey>         anyone know of a good calendar app.   not scheduler.  just venella cal. that has moon phase ?
[04:59] <B7su4> teriman apt-get
[04:59] <Madpilot> brenner: I'm always tinkering with my desktop details - I have since Win98 days - and I haven't found Gnome limiting yet, and the basics are far more usable than KDE, IMO
[05:00] <Xenguy> intelikey: pom == phase of moon
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Say you downloaded a .deb.  Can you install it without using the command line and dpkg -i?
[05:00] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: not currently
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Is that a plan for near-future releases?
[05:00] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: why?
[05:00] <intelikey> cafuego if it is the same one i dl'd the range is 500-2100  too short.
[05:00] <frenchy> B7su4 apt-get install libstdc++
[05:00] <cafuego> intelikey: Let me check
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Possible Windows migration-candidate friend is wondering.
[05:01] <intelikey> Xenguy that is for present date   no ?
[05:01] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I think there'll be a graphical installer for Dapper - april 2006
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Of course, most things Synaptic will be fine, so that's nice.
[05:01] <Xenguy> intelikey: hrm, pom is in bsdgames I think
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Perfect.  Thanks.
[05:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: don't fear the CLI :-)
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, I don't - I love it!
[05:02] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I seem to remember a post on planet.ubuntu.com about the deb installer, sometime in the last two months...
[05:02] <intelikey> pom but it only shows present phase ?    doesn't it ?
[05:02] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: heheh
[05:02] <frenchy> does anyone here know if there is something like gxmms for amarok?
[05:02] <superneo> this 1 is kinda complicated ... i need xmms-jack to see/use jackd so i can then set up oddcast ...does any1 know how to do this or a "howto" that i could read ?
[05:02] <cafuego> intelikey: It's certainly got a Y2K problem
[05:02] <Xenguy> intelikey: yep
[05:02] <cafuego> "1051222 05:06  the moon is waning gibbous (65% illuminated)"
[05:02] <Xenguy> intelikey: or AFAIK
[05:03] <brenner> Madpilot: you obviously don't tinker enough. :)  it's just minor things really, like how about letting us change the panel's font color without going through a theme?  but then again, that's a pure eye candy thing
[05:03] <intelikey> k neither of those help me.  but thanks for the input Xenguy cafuego
[05:03] <dle> frenchy - vid driver.  In general I'm finding X performing rather poorly in Breezy w/ either the radeon or the fglrx driver.
[05:03] <intelikey> any other sujestions welcome.
[05:03] <Xenguy> intelikey: apt-cache search moon
[05:04] <dle> 2nd question: HOw do you configure pppoe in Breezy?
[05:04] <B7su4> frenchy, says that it can not find it
[05:04] <Madpilot> brenner: yeah, the whole theme-building thing I haven't really gotten into yet - but changing some stuff independant of the theme would be nice
[05:04] <morphix> how hard would it be to change over ubuntu install on a lower class celeron.. onto a new mobo & higher celeron, using the existing NIC & hdds as the old machine..?
[05:05] <morphix> so i dont need to reinstall the whole system again
[05:05] <frenchy> ehh thats why i stick to nvidia dle ati support kind of sucks for linux, im not sure what to tell you ive never had an ati card so i probably wont be much help
[05:05] <cdubya> hey tonyyarusso.
[05:05] <frenchy> B7su4 apt-get install libstdc++6, try that
[05:05] <sethk> morphix, odds are you could just use it as is, changing nothing
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> cdubya, Hey there.
[05:06] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, so how'd you come out with your finals?
[05:06] <intelikey> morphix as easy as changing the hardware.
[05:06] <morphix> hmm i hope
[05:06] <dle> frenchy - Yeah, it's  a bit of a mess.
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> cdubya, Well, I think I passed; we'll find out next month when marks come back.  I know some of them, and those were good.
[05:06] <cafuego> intelikey: No, mine seems to suffer from 32bit integer time_t issues.
[05:06] <B7su4> frenchy, gave me this Building dependency tree... Done
[05:06] <B7su4> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[05:06] <B7su4> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell dle about pppoe
[05:06] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, good deal. :)
[05:06] <dkelson> where can I find the udeb for the daily dapper kernel?
[05:07] <cdubya> anyone use xfce?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: yup
[05:07] <intelikey> cafuego yep
[05:07] <cdubya> Xenguy, any way to show the battery life?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: yes...
[05:07] <frenchy> hmm
[05:07] <cdubya> heh. got any tips
[05:07] <cdubya> ?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: there's a plug-in
[05:07] <cdubya> ewwww.
[05:08] <Xenguy> cdubya: ?
[05:08] <cdubya> and I'm sure it's got a very logical package name, right
[05:08] <cdubya> ?
[05:08] <cdubya> heh
[05:08] <_jason> B7su4, didn't you need libstdc++5 ?
[05:08] <dle> bimberi - THanks. I knew about pppoeconf already, and used it after my install.  However, on reboot just now, I had to run it again.  pon did not work.
[05:08] <frenchy> ok B7su4 i may have missed your complete problem, what app were you running and what error did it give you again
[05:08] <Xenguy> cdubya: it might take a little cleverness yes
[05:08] <cdubya> Xenguy, I really like it.....just want to make sure I can do everything I need to...
[05:08] <laptopzz> is it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?
[05:08] <eclair> cdubya: i think you could add it on the panel or something. there are a lot of stuff to monitor things like battery life, etc
[05:09] <cdubya> Xenguy, file manager never launches, is it another separate package that doesn't get install as a dep......
[05:09] <B7su4> frenchy, i  am running peerguardian...and it gives me this error peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:09] <cdubya> eclair, I looked, but didn't see anything....
[05:09] <Xenguy> cdubya: apt-cache search xfce |grep battery
[05:09] <cdubya> I'll have to google for the package name....
[05:09] <cdubya> Xenguy, sweet, thanks
[05:09] <Xenguy> cdubya: yw
[05:10] <dle> Xenguy - Think you're pretty smart, don't you?
[05:10] <Xenguy> dle: yeah, most of the time I rock :-)
[05:10] <cdubya> Xenguy, here's what I got.... xfce4-battery-plugin - battery monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
[05:10] <dle> Pff!  ;-)
[05:10] <cdubya> so that's the name of the package?
[05:10] <frenchy> B7s4: and it says libstdc++6 is already installed
[05:10] <Xenguy> dle: ;P
[05:11] <intelikey> oh how cute.... i got the cutest little info box.... it is one char tall and has one line of info       [please wait]       lol
[05:11] <_jason> B7su4, frenchy you need  libstdc++5 not  libstdc++6
[05:11] <Xenguy> cdubya: apt-get it dude
[05:11] <B7su4> _jason, okay
[05:11] <B7su4> yeah it works i think
[05:11] <cdubya> Xenguy, got it....
[05:11] <frenchy> does anyone use amarok
[05:12] <_jason> frenchy, yes
[05:12] <cdubya> sweet.....
[05:13] <cdubya> works like a charm.
[05:13] <cdubya> Xenguy, is the file manager another package as well?
[05:13] <frenchy> _jason do you know of anything for amarok that is like gxmms where i can control it from an applet on the gnome-panel
[05:13] <_jason> frenchy, hrmm nope sorry
[05:13] <dkelson> How do you make a "driver floppy" for Dapper to get a kernel module for loaded that isn't compiled/included by default?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> I'm having an issue with tpb (ThinkPad buttons).
[05:13] <frenchy> poo
[05:13] <Xenguy> cdubya: I didn't really like the native FM, so I installed a couple of others
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> I want the Access IBM (THINKPAD) button to open a terminal.
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> I got this line for /etc/tpbrc from someone else:
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> THINKPAD        /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f
[05:14] <_jason> frenchy, just setup some shortcut keys, I find them a lot more convenient
[05:14] <cdubya> Xenguy, what do you use?
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> But it opens two terminals at once now.
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Thoughts?
[05:15] <foxiness> how use this Parallels WS 2 on ubuntu ? it stop with me after Parallels-config 'ubuntu brezzy' ,i have GCC 3.4.5 and make .
[05:15] <Toba> hrm it looks like there is a new version of eog in backports
[05:15] <Toba> hopefully the bug isf ixed there
[05:16] <Xenguy> cdubya: if you have fast hardware, then I find 'krusader' very nice...
[05:16] <Xenguy> cdubya: otherwise I make do with 'emelfm'; I suppose 'konqueror' is worth a look too
[05:16] <darkness> Hey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to duel boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?
[05:16] <intelikey> tonyyarusso is that the only line in /etc/tpbrc ?
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, No.
[05:17] <Madpilot> darkness: "duel-boot"? That's where the two OSes fight each other for system resources, is it? :P
[05:17] <intelikey> could ya pastebin it for us tonyyarusso
[05:17] <intelikey> !paste
[05:17] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Sure.
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> is it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?
[05:18] <darkness> Madpilot: I think it's dual boot... Something like that. I just want to try another Linux OS.
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> darkness: like what
[05:18] <foxiness> any one get Parallels 2 work with ubuntu ?
[05:18] <Madpilot> darkness: yes, it's spelled "dual" - I was just razzing you on your spelling :)
[05:19] <Toba> argh
[05:19] <Toba> eye of gnome is totally broken now
[05:19] <darkness> MadPilot: Hahaha, nice work. I didn't pick it up. I almost feel stupid now.
[05:19] <Toba> it won't even display folders :(
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> Toba: u on dappers or something
[05:19] <Toba> no
[05:19] <Toba> breezy
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> hm
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> howd you break it
[05:20] <Toba> backports made it worse not better
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> oh heh
[05:20] <Madpilot> darkness: it seems to be a very common spelling error, and it amuses me to point it out.... ;)
[05:20] <Toba> well, I did a distupgrade the other day and since then eye of gnome has had a buggy version
[05:20] <bimberi> yay backports
[05:20] <jason^> is there a good place to get just a standard iptables script to setup NAT but have it be default deny for incoming stuff?
[05:20] <Toba> bimberi: yay, it broke it worse :(
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018
[05:20] <intelikey> k
[05:20] <darkness> Madpilot: I usually have alright spelling. Well, alright compared to most people I talk to.
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> Toba: download a known working package
[05:20] <makkura> I've got a strange problem showing up on two boxes...  the install never asked for a root password so I can't access su in terminals though some administration programs in unbuntu let me use them with my own password.
[05:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell makkura about root
[05:21] <Toba> well I can downgrade now
[05:21] <makkura> _jason, thanks...  can I get my very own ubotu? ;)
[05:21] <Toba> but adding more newer buggier things did not get me the hoary packages :(
[05:22] <_jason> makkura, sure
[05:22] <darkness> Hey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to dual boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?
[05:22] <_jason> ubotu, tell makkura about yourself
[05:22] <Toba> say... if I add hoary repos it won't downgrade anything right?
[05:22] <Toba> it'll just give me more options
[05:22] <LaptopZZ> darkness: depends on your needs
[05:22] <eclair> makkura: try sudo ?
[05:22] <Toba> is that no correct?
[05:22] <jason^> ubotu: tell me about root
[05:22] <LaptopZZ> Toba: not totally sure..
[05:22] <intelikey> tonyyarusso there are 0 lines in that file....  they are all commented out.
[05:22] <Toba> hrm
[05:22] <darkness> LaptopZZ: I basically want to try out another OS, one that comes with a little more bundled software then Ubuntu. : )
[05:23] <Toba> the whole repositories thing is a bit confusing to me
[05:23] <LaptopZZ> darkness: debian then, its ubuntu with all you'd ever wan
[05:23] <LaptopZZ> t
[05:23] <Madpilot> darkness: there's something like 17,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos - when are you going to find time to try them all?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Not the Thinkpad one for sure; I didn't remember if any others were left.
[05:23] <cafuego> !dstats
[05:23] <dkelson> Is there a Ubuntu equiv of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerModify ?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, That may be the only one though now that I think about it.
[05:23] <darkness> Madpilot: I have alot of time on my hands.... I also want to try something different to Ubuntu.
[05:24] <bimberi> Toba: try removing backports, apt-get update, then apt-get install --reinstall eog
[05:24] <thick-glasses> anyone install the new broadcom wireless driver with breezy?
[05:24] <darkness> LatptopZZ: I don't want to try Debian because Ubuntu is based of Debian, meaning they would be very similar.
[05:24] <cafuego> Ooh, internal error! :-)
[05:24] <norki> how can i apt-get zsnes 1.36? i don't know the filename XD
[05:24] <Toba> oh I don't need to worry about getting it down to the breezy version bimberi
[05:24] <bimberi> Toba: s/removing/commenting out/
[05:24] <Toba> I did that with force version in synaptic
[05:24] <Toba> I want the hoary version though
[05:25] <Toba> since the breezy version is not as good
[05:25] <bimberi> Toba: oh, ok :)
[05:25] <Toba> any ideas?
[05:25] <cafuego> darkness: Ubuntu probably has more bundled software than other distros.  It's just that others may have that stuff on a DVD whereas with Ubuntu you fetch it from online sources.
[05:25] <brenner> norki: the version in the breezy repo is 1.4
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay, yes, it would appear the only non-commented line is the one I said earlier.  Sorry.
[05:25] <intelikey> tonyyarusso yes that is the only line in the file not commented out, sorry for the 0 statement i missed it the first pass.
[05:25] <brenner> and the package is funnily enough, called zsnes
[05:25] <norki> brenner: i know.. but i want 1.36, it's faster
[05:26] <darkness> Cafuego: Ok, enough about the sfotware then. I still would like to try another Linux DIstro.
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, So any ideas what's wrong with that one?
[05:26] <cafuego> darkness: Pick one, download it, install it :-)
[05:26] <brenner> norki: then you'll have to d/load the source off the official site
[05:26] <brenner> and compile/checkinstall
[05:26] <darkness> Cafuego: Definately not downloading it... I'm going to buy it off of Ebay.
[05:26] <bimberi> Toba: only yucky ones involving force-ing things that probably won't work anyway
[05:26] <norki> brenner: ok i'll look into it. but i've never compiled a thing in my life
[05:26] <intelikey> tonyyarusso well my thoughts on the reson are proved /dev/null so i don't know what to tell ya.
[05:26] <brenner> ubotu: tell norki about source
[05:27] <megasquid> anyone good with mod rewrite?
[05:27] <Toba> it's just eye of gnome
[05:27] <Toba> I doubt anything has that as a dependency
[05:27] <brenner> hmm, bad factoid
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, What if I tried removing the options from gnome-terminal?
[05:27] <bimberi> Toba: nautilus :/
[05:27] <Toba> ew
[05:27] <Toba> nautilus is not at all what I need
[05:27] <brenner> norki: there's a wiki page on compiling
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, (btw, do you remember how to reload tpb after making changes?)
[05:27] <megasquid> ?
[05:28] <Falstius> how can I tell the nautilus cd burner where to store temporary files?  Or set any options at all.
[05:28] <norki> brenner: ta
[05:28] <bimberi> Toba: plus ubuntu-desktop and others which probably don't matter, but nautilus...
[05:28] <Toba> nautilus depends on eog?
[05:28] <Toba> wtf?
[05:28] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/tpb restart    maybe tonyyarusso
[05:28] <Toba> argh
[05:28] <norki> i know what to compile is, but do i need to install C or something? and link and stuff like that?
[05:29] <Toba> but it's buggy and stuff :(
[05:29] <Toba> and there's really nothing I can do?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Seems to work.
[05:29] <Toba> nooooooooooo!
[05:29] <Xenguy> norki: build-essential
[05:29] <bimberi> Toba: actually - it's a "suggests" dependency
[05:29] <Toba> ok then
[05:29] <dkelson> what version of gcc is used to compile the ubunto dapper AMD64 kernel?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Same problem.
[05:29] <sethk> norki, the c compiler is already installed
[05:30] <bimberi> Toba: so try uninstalling and installing the hoary deb using dpkg
[05:30] <brenner> norki: actually, i can't find a wiki page. but yeah, you need buildessential (which has all that C stuff) and then add the source repos to your sources.list, and then apt-get build-dep zsnes to get all the libraries etc. it will need
[05:30] <brenner> *build-essential
[05:30] <Toba> but I don't know what version hoary had
[05:30] <Toma-> dkelson: are in dapper now?
[05:30] <dkelson> no
[05:30] <intelikey> tonyyarusso then i have no idea....
[05:30] <bimberi> Toba: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:30] <Toba> thx
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay, now something's up with some step of that.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I commented out everything now, tried that restart command, and it still opens two.  Hmm...
[05:31] <Toba> thanks bimberi
[05:31] <brenner> norki: then you can either read the README file in the source archive to work out how to compile, or use checkinstall to do all that stuff and install it for you
[05:31] <bimberi> Toba: np, good luck :)
[05:31] <norki> brenner: i've got the tar. i should prolly read up on the basic commands before i try compiling something :)
[05:31] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it's not running a script some where is it ?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, And System > Preferences > Sessions > Current Session shows the little lifesaver ring by tpb.
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Shouldn't be to my knowledge.
[05:34] <ubuntu> ..-
[05:34] <sethk> norki, compiling from a tar file is very easy
[05:34] <brenner> norki: good idea, but here it is in a few steps: [1]  add source repos [2]  apt-get build-dep zsnes [3]  untar the source archive [4]  install checkinstall [5]  cd into the archive and type 'sudo checkinstall'
[05:35] <ubuntu_> rc-hispano.org
[05:35] <brenner> [5]  should be cd into the extracted zsnes source dir, not the archive itself
[05:35] <norki> brenner, sethk: yeah, to compile i type ./configure && gmake && gmake install
[05:36] <norki> but where do i uncompress the tar?
[05:36] <sethk> norki, gmake is only necessary on real unix systems
[05:36] <martianpenguin> hey, is there a way to log into my computer remotely and use graphical applications from another linux box?
[05:36] <Toba> hrm
[05:36] <sethk> norki, the only make on linux (well, by default) is gma,e
[05:36] <Xenguy> norki: yeah, not gmake
[05:36] <sethk> gmake, that is
[05:36] <linkd> martianpenguin: a VNC server
[05:36] <Madpilot> martianpenguin: yes
[05:36] <Toba> I want to use dpkg to install eog 2.10.0-0ubuntu1
[05:36] <Toba> what command would I use?
[05:36] <cmatheson>  martianpenguin yes, use ssh w/ x forwarding
[05:36] <martianpenguin> how bout a straight xserver?
[05:36] <sethk> norki, if it is a compressed tar file, gnu tar has a three convenience flags to extract and compress in one step
[05:36] <Xenguy> Toba: dpkg -i   ?
[05:37] <martianpenguin> oh how do i do xforwarding?
[05:37] <Toba> but what deb
[05:37] <brenner> norki: i'd seriously recommend you use checkinstall (it makes a deb for you and installs it, making for easy uninstall later)
[05:37] <Toba> and does the deb have to be in my repos
[05:37] <sethk> norki, so if it is a .tar.gz, you can extract from it with tar xvzf
[05:37] <Toba> woudl it be eog-2.10.0-0ubuntu1.deb?
[05:37] <MrProper_> martianpenguin, google "x forwarding howto"
[05:37] <brenner> norki: uncompress wherever you want.  you can remove the src dir later if you want
[05:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell norki about checkinstall
[05:37] <Xenguy> norki: checkinstall is nice
[05:37] <_jason> norki, I'd recommend checkinstall as well.  Keeps what you build in the package database so you can easily remove it if you need to
[05:38] <brenner> Toba: dpkg -i <deb file> is for *local* deb files
[05:38] <norki> thanks guys
[05:38] <Toba> ahhh!
[05:39] <sethk> norki, checkinstall is a good thing to do.
[05:39] <sethk> norki, a small extra step, can save you aggrevation later
[05:39] <sethk> norki, just adding my vote to the others
[05:39] <norki> =) good stuff
[05:41] <norki> k i've got it uncompressed to my desktop in a folder called zsnes-1.36
[05:41] <norki> now i just chdir to that
[05:41] <intelikey> man date calculators are scarce as hin's teeth
[05:41] <norki> and type checkinstall?
[05:42] <brenner> norki: have you installed the libraries etc it needs?
[05:42] <brenner> using build-dep?
[05:42] <crimsun> norki: you know that 1.400 is in Breezy/multiverse, right?
[05:42] <batman> hello does anyone know of a ftp server i can get for ubuntu
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Why can I only run wvdial with sudo?  Otherwise it says no valid phone number, etc.
[05:42] <batman> i try apt-get install proftpd but it says package not found
[05:43] <norki> yeah i suppose i've got the libs, since 1.40 uses them
[05:43] <norki> crimsun: yeah
[05:43] <crimsun> norki: why 1.360?
[05:43] <intelikey> !repos
[05:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:43] <intelikey> batman ^
[05:43] <brenner> norki: then yeah, cd into it and run checkinstall
[05:43] <norki> crimsun: i wanna see if it's faster. it was on windows
[05:43] <_jason> brenner, don't you have to configure and amke first?
[05:43] <_jason> make even
[05:44] <Xenguy> !checkinstall
[05:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:44] <brenner> _jason: not with checkinstall afaik
[05:44] <_jason> Brendon, hrmm
[05:44] <crimsun> norki: makes more sense to use hoary deb-src lines, then, since 1.360-2 is in Hoary/multiverse.
[05:44] <norki> crimsun: thanks!
[05:44] <Toba> arghhh.
[05:44] <norki> checkinstall failed btw
[05:44] <blanky> guys for some reason kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu is frickin slow for me
[05:45] <Helfax_> Anyone have success with WPA2 and Breezy?
[05:45] <badmacktuck> hello all, i found the wiki for installing firefox 1.5, but has anyone in here done it? will a semi-newb be able to do it without too many problems?
[05:45] <crimsun> Helfax_: sure.
[05:45] <blanky> whenever i drag a box around my desktop it's slow and stuff
[05:45] <crimsun> batman: use !info proftpd
[05:45] <makkura> Hi again guys :P   Does Unbuntu have anything built in for dialup?  I'm having trouble finding anything in the wiki and not seeing anything I know on the box itself.
[05:45] <bimberi> Toba: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:45] <batman> crimsun: thanks
[05:45] <Toba> I'm trying to get rid of backports
[05:45] <Toba> what's the best way to go about doing that?
[05:45] <Toba> it only installed like 10 things
[05:45] <Helfax_> Crimsun: Cool. I can get it to auth with wpa but not wpa2.. I also can't get it to grab an IP addrr.
[05:46] <crimsun> Helfax_: WPA2 is problematic with Breezy's wpasupplicant, but Dapper's works fine.
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I assume just removing them from sources.list doesn't help because they'll all be newer versions than the leftover install candidates, right?
[05:46] <Toba> yes
[05:46] <Toba> I want to remove backports and downgrade to what I had
[05:47] <crimsun> Helfax_: you can download Dapper's deb-src for wpasupplicant, compile it, install it, and try it.
[05:47] <Helfax_> crimsun: I'll give that a shot. Appreciate the info!
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Do you know which packages they are?
[05:47] <Toba> yes
[05:47] <Helfax_> This is why I love Ubuntu.
[05:47] <cdubya> I never could get WPA to work right.
[05:48] <cafuego> dapper still uses 0.45 as well, there *is* a 0.47 out there
[05:48] <Toba> http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/pkgs.txt
[05:48] <Helfax_> cdubya: I'll let you know. I'm going to try it in a few minutes.
[05:48] <crimsun> no, I uploaded 0.47 a while ago.
[05:48] <Toba> that's the list of the ones that backports upgraded
[05:48] <cafuego> Ah, cool.
[05:48] <norki> do i use * wildcards in linux? for searching
[05:48] <Toba> you can norki
[05:48] <cdubya> Helfax_, np. I just don't use it. I got annoyed after following the instructions and still encountering problems, so I gave up.
[05:49] <norki> toba: then the file searcher is broken
[05:49] <Toba> norki: what command did you use?
[05:49] <Helfax_> cdubya: Yeah, it was a pain in the arse.
[05:49] <cafuego> crimsun: Do kernels still hardlock when you eject a card with wpasupplicant running?
[05:49] <norki> toba: places - search for files
[05:49] <Toba> tonyyarusso: any idea how to downgrade these?
[05:49] <Helfax_> Ok.. Going to try Dapper. Thanks again Crimsun.
[05:49] <Toba> norki: I've never used that, dunno
[05:49] <blanky> guys, is anyone witnessing slowness/lagginess on kubuntu-desktop? (not kubuntu, but kubuntu-desktop)
[05:49] <cdubya> Helfax_, pretty much. It was really discouraging given I followed the wiki instructs and it still didn't work.
[05:49] <Toba> I just use find on the command line
[05:50] <intelikey> norki wildcard * is wilder on *nix systems than it is on M$ systems.
[05:50] <Toba> wilder, heh
[05:50] <norki> lol
[05:50] <Helfax_> cdubya: Wireless still has a way to go in and distro of Linux.. IMHO.
[05:50] <crimsun> cafuego: can't test that (ipw2195 here)
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I would guess apt-get install -f --reinstall package1 package2 etc
[05:50] <Helfax_> s/and/any/
[05:50] <Toba> tonyyarusso: o_0
[05:50] <Toba> so wait what?
[05:50] <Toba> remove the backports repos first and then do that?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Toba: The -f might not even be necessary?
[05:50] <cdubya> Helfax_, yeah, I don't find as slick of implementations, in particular with wpa
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Right.
[05:51] <intelikey> you laugh at me.....    but  linux * = M$ *.*  :)
[05:51] <cdubya> Helfax_, that was just a really annoying issue to me....
[05:51] <Toba> ok... I'll try it
[05:51] <Helfax_> cdubya: I share your pain.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Because if it has to reinstall them, but the backports aren't available anymore, logically it would have to get the others, right?
[05:51] <norki> how can i show hoary repositories in synaptic?
[05:51] <Toba> tonyyarusso: I would hope so
[05:52] <norki> for finding zsnes 1.3
[05:52] <batman> ok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: just use http://packages.ubuntu.com/zsnesy
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: -y
[05:52] <megasquid> anyone good with mod rewrite?
[05:52] <norki> crimsun: using firefox?
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: eh?
[05:53] <Toba> odd...
[05:53] <DShepherd> does anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?
[05:53] <Toba> DIE BACKPORTS DIE.
[05:53] <Toba> it won't let me do that, tonyyarusso
[05:54] <tyler7039> _jason, can you respond in the dialog window?
[05:54] <norki> crimsun: do i add that in synaptic preferences?
[05:54] <Toba> tonyyarusso: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/noworky.txt
[05:54] <_jason> tyler7039, what dialog window?
[05:54] <crimsun> norki: no, it's just a reference you can use
[05:54] <tyler7039> the IM thing
[05:54] <tyler7039> its just a chat between me and you
[05:54] <_jason> tyler7039, just ask here, you need to be registered to /msg
[05:55] <blanky> GUYS MY KUBUNTU-DESKTOP IS EXTREMELY SLOW!
[05:55] <crimsun> blanky: your capslock is stuck.
[05:55] <tyler7039> well how do i install a .tar.gz
[05:55] <blanky> YEAH LET ME FIX IT SORRY
[05:55] <_jason> blanky, use gnome then
[05:55] <blanky> better
[05:55] <tyler7039> i know how to extract it
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> Toba: You're sure pmount is available outside of backports, right?
[05:55] <tyler7039> but what file do i run
[05:55] <blanky> _jason, I've used gnome, I want to try kde :)
[05:55] <norki> crimsun: can't i just apt-get it? if so, what's the syntax for it
[05:55] <_jason> tyler7039, what are you installing
[05:55] <tyler7039> limewire basic
[05:56] <drcode> hi all
[05:56] <Toba> tonyyarusso: I was pretty sure backports only included things that were in the main development tree (upgrades)
[05:56] <drcode> is there skype for llinux ?
[05:56] <blanky> _jason, it's kubuntu desktop, maybe kubuntu will be faster? If I install the OS
[05:56] <nalioth> drcode: yes there is
[05:56] <Toba> drcode: yes there is
[05:56] <Toba> :o
[05:56] <batman> ok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before
[05:56] <drcode> what I need to install ?
[05:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler7039 about limewire
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> Toba, tonyyarusso, there is backports-extras, which includes programs not in the repos.
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Unless it was something new for the next release maybe.
[05:56] <tyler7039> thank you =D
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell drcode about skype
[05:56] <Toba> tonyyarusso: possibly I guess
[05:56] <crimsun> norki: you actually need to compile it due to the changes between Hoary and Breezy
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> seth_k|lappy, Ah.
[05:56] <norki> dohness.. :\
[05:57] <Toba> but I can't seem to downgrade ANY of these in this way
[05:57] <blanky> man my kde is painstakingly slow, i mean, it runs faster on a slower machine i bet
[05:57] <Toba> the way tonyyarusso said that is
[05:57] <fangorious> how do I get rid of the apt/synaptic NOT AUTHENTICATED messages?
[05:57] <Toba> even ones that are DEFINITELY in the main breezy repos
[05:57] <Toba> like xchat
[05:57] <nalioth> fangorious: don't run non official repos
[05:57] <crimsun> norki: apt-get build-dep zsnes
[05:57] <_jason> tyler7039, you'll need java first, have you installed that?
[05:57] <fangorious> nalioth: and if it's official updates from ubuntu, like perl?
[05:57] <DShepherd> does anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?
[05:57] <crimsun> norki: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400-1.diff.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400.orig.tar.gz
[05:58] <nalioth> fangorious: then something is very wrong
[05:58] <Toba> all I wanted to do when I started out here was to downgrade eog
[05:58] <Toba> nothing more
[05:58] <Toba> ;(
[05:58] <DShepherd> gnome that is
[05:58] <drcode> its in apt-get?
[05:58] <crimsun> norki: extract it and apply the source, then generate a deb.
[05:58] <Toba> drazq: no
[05:58] <Toba> *drcode
[05:58] <Toba> not AFAIK
[05:58] <nalioth> drcode: read the info ubotu sent you
[05:58] <drcode> k
[05:58] <drcode> thanx
[05:58] <batman> crimsun, do you know of a mysql panel like mysqlcc that i can get?
[05:58] <fangorious> nalioth: wasn't there a dpkg-reconfigure type of thing similar to this when breezy went from RC to final release?
[05:58] <pashaw> DShepherd, i do
[05:58] <nalioth> fangorious: i'm not following you
[05:59] <DShepherd> pashaw: does your yelp start?
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I'm going to check a package search to see where it is, out of curiosity.
[05:59] <Toba> which package?
[05:59] <Toba> pmount?
[05:59] <_jason> DShepherd, you installed ff1.5 and now your yelp doesn't start?
[05:59] <proubu> guys... im having a problem while running gmplayer
[05:59] <proubu> Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[05:59] <proubu> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[05:59] <pashaw> DShepherd, ?? help?  which one you asking about the normal gnome one or Firefox one?
[05:59] <DShepherd> jason^:  I am not sure.. if it was firefox.. but I suspect it
[06:00] <fangorious> nalioth: i seem to recall a wave of people who had been using an RC of breezy were deluged with authentication problems after it went final, and there was a simple dpkg-reconfigure type solution to get the new gpg keys or something
[06:00] <DShepherd> pashaw: the one for ubuntu
[06:00] <drcode> thanx alon Natlion
[06:00] <drcode> thanx alon Natlios
[06:00] <crimsun> batman: I don't, but any multitude of searches will help you.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Yeah, as a test case.
[06:00] <_jason> DShepherd, did you remove firefox1.07?  yelp depends on it
[06:00] <DShepherd> pashaw: normal gnome
[06:00] <blanky> hey guys in this, when I upgrade a kernel, I dont have to copile it right? It just downloads the binary?
[06:00] <Toba> tonyyarusso: it seems to work to force version in synaptic
[06:00] <DShepherd> jason^: ahh yes I did..
[06:00] <batman> crimsun, i'm searching as we speak
[06:00] <proubu> so, can someone help me with that please?
[06:00] <Toba> however some of the other packages wouldn't work when I tried that
[06:00] <_jason> DShepherd, there's your answer :)
[06:00] <crimsun> blanky: correct, presuming you're using a deb
[06:00] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. why so..
[06:01] <Toba> because they depended on each other (xchat and xchat-common for example)
[06:01] <DShepherd> sorry jason^ I mean _jason
[06:01] <DShepherd> meant*
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Oh?  Maybe there's a different option in apt-get for force version specifically...
[06:01] <norki> crimsun: extracted the original to desktop, then applied diff, then ran apt get
[06:02] <norki> Reading package lists... Done
[06:02] <norki> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:02] <norki> E: Unable to find a source package for zsnes
[06:02] <crimsun> norki: no. apt-get install build-essential devscripts
[06:02] <blanky> damn seriously, this isn't funny anymore, kubuntu-desktop = "teh" slowness, maybe kubuntu OS will be faster?
[06:02] <norki> i've got the essentials
[06:02] <Toba> the replacement packages from my apt-get when I first upgraded after adding backports: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/replacements.txt
[06:02] <crimsun> norki: afterward, ''debuild binary''
[06:02] <Toba> this is odd
[06:02] <kwtm> Is there some way to get at the KDE Hardware module under System Settings (KControl)?  Ubuntu seems to have disabled it, and I can't get the required info to get my video card working.
[06:02] <DShepherd> _jason: why does yelp depend on firefox? do you know?
[06:02] <_jason> DShepherd, if you really need to get firefox1.5: start from scratch  (undo what you did and reinstall ff1.07 along with yelp and update-manager and whatever else went away) and follow the wiki guide to installing version 1.5.
[06:02] <Toba> there's a bot doing a HEAD request on my server whenever I link a file in here
[06:03] <pete_> hi all.  I'm a 1st time ubunu installed with moderate linux skills that needs some help now that the system is up running.
[06:03] <DShepherd> _jason: ok.. thanks
[06:03] <Toba> is there some links-collector bot in here?
[06:03] <_jason> DShepherd, it uses something that firefox provides to show you the help pages
[06:03] <nalioth> Toba: you can grep the logs of this channel
[06:04] <norki> crimsun:
[06:04] <nalioth> pete_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:04] <norki> cannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere!
[06:04] <norki> Are you in the source code tree?
[06:04] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. I;ll google for more info. Thanks
[06:04] <norki> i am in the source tree :p
[06:04] <Toba> nalioth: what?
[06:04] <crimsun> norki: you need to be in the root of the extracted source (where you applied the diff)
[06:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell DShepherd about firefox15
[06:05] <norki> crimsun: i'm at ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/zsnes-1.36$
[06:05] <pete_> well my install went well and the machine booted up.  I could not log in as root (disabled) but could log in as my alter ego.  1st thing I see are updates.  However, I can't get them to install/show/list,etc.  I just hear a small beep sound. nothing happens.
[06:05] <norki> the src folder is one step up
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Toba about logs
[06:05] <Toba> thanks nalioth
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pete_ about synaptic
[06:05] <fangorious> nalioth: any idea where I could get the keys from to re-import them?
[06:05] <nalioth> pete_: look to your private messages for info from ubotu
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fangorious about gpgerr
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I didn't see anything in the apt-get help or man about forcing version, just reinstalling.
[06:06] <pete_> i found the menu item for synaptic, but when I try to run it from the gui, i hear the beep.  nothing happens.
[06:06] <Toba> tonyyarusso: thanks for your help anyways :)
[06:06] <norki> oi why did i dl znes_1.400.orig.tar.gz
[06:06] <norki> shouldn't i apply the diff to 1.36
[06:06] <norki> ?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Of course, you could do apt-get remove packages && apt-get install package, but that could potentially be dangerous with dependencies maybe.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Oh well.
[06:06] <Toba> yeah it could
[06:07] <Toba> I'm trying to force them with synaptic one by one now
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Sounds like fun.
[06:07] <nalioth> pete_: hit alt-f2 > "gksudo synaptic"
[06:07] <Toba> tonyyarusso: no, not really :)
[06:07] <DShepherd> _jason: thanks for the link. Do you know if this is the same situation for kde?
[06:07] <Toba> but this sure is one hell of a learning experience :)
[06:08] <fit4lfe> need help with chroot
[06:08] <proubu> can someone help me with that please?
[06:08] <_jason> DShepherd, afaik no essential apps depend on firefox being instaled.  but I don't run kde so I'm not really sure
[06:08] <fit4lfe> I set it up right I think
[06:08] <_jason> DShepherd, I don't even think kde includes firefox does it?
[06:08] <pete_> nalioth: tried to run as you said, got prompted for the password, but nothing else happened.
[06:08] <fit4lfe> but how do you start applications in chroot dir ?
[06:09] <nalioth> pete_: ok, lets got to basics.  Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[06:09] <DShepherd> _jason: I dont think by default. so its gnome's choice then to use something from firefox for yelp
[06:09] <pete_> got terminal.
[06:10] <batman> i need mysqlcc very badly can someone please help me out
[06:10] <nalioth> pete_: not type "gksudo synaptic" in the terminal and press <enter>
[06:10] <DShepherd> _jason: interesting,.. so unistalling firefox is unistalling yelp. interesting. so is this a good thing?
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:10] <proubu> i need help =(
[06:10] <_jason> DShepherd, what is a good thing?
[06:10] <pete_> nalioth: prompted for password, window disappears, beep, nothing happens. :-(
[06:10] <Toba> proubu: with what?
[06:11] <fit4lfe> does anyone have chroot
[06:11] <fit4lfe> dir
[06:11] <DShepherd> _jason: doesnt it force someone to at least have firefox installed if they want to use yelp
[06:11] <fit4lfe> I need some help
[06:11] <proubu> Toba, im trying to run gmplayer (yes, gui) and i got an error
[06:11] <_jason> DShepherd, yeah I find that annoying too.
[06:11] <nalioth> pete_: something is weird. in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" <enter>
[06:11] <Toba> proubu: which error is that?
[06:11] <Toba> btw don't make us ask these questions
[06:11] <proubu> Toba, Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[06:11] <proubu> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[06:11] <_jason> DShepherd, for example you can't use epiphany without firefox either.
[06:11] <Toba> just say what your problem is :)
[06:11] <nalioth> fit4lfe: you need to ask uncle google, and not ask so often in here, if anyone in here knows, they will answer
[06:11] <pete_> nalioth: pete@baseball:~$ sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <pete_> pete@baseball:~$
[06:11] <pete_> nothing.
[06:11] <Toba> proubu: hrm....
[06:11] <_smd_> I have question.  IF ican here people loggin in and out of gain on most programs but i never here them msg me... even though i have enable sounds on... what do do?
[06:12] <nalioth> pete_: then your machine is way out of whack.
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason:really..??
[06:12] <Toba> I dunno about that one
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason: that;s not kool..
[06:12] <Toba> are you running it as root when you are not logged in gui as root?
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason: at all
[06:12] <Toba> that can cause some authentication issues
[06:12] <pete_> nalioth: not very reassuring for me to move from Mandrake to Ubuntu.  I had heard such wonderful things.
[06:12] <kairu0> hi all
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> I have ubuntu breezy, my fstab is already write it, my NTFS is already mounted automatic I can see the partitions, but I can't access as a user..
[06:12] <nalioth> pete_: you are the first person i've come in contact with that has no synaptic or apt-get
[06:12] <kairu0> has anyone been able to run enlightenment and nautlis at the same time?
[06:13] <nalioth> pete_: did your install go ok?
[06:13] <Toba> kairu0: why would you WANT to?
[06:13] <Toba> nautilus is not a very nice app
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> someone knowes the command to add on the fstab to allow me as a user to access?
[06:13] <intelikey> fit4lfe what are you trying to run with a special root ?
[06:13] <pete_> nalioth: seemed to go without issue.  Machine rebooted, and I logged in.  All seemed well.
[06:13] <proubu> Toba, nope... and i tried with sudo too and i just got this
[06:13] <_jason> DShepherd, I thinkgecko is the common thing they both use.  But gecko isn't available by itself.  So you need firefox installed to use it
[06:13] <Toba> read or write access, Inf3ctedFx
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> to read
[06:13] <proubu> Toba, vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) and nothing happens then
[06:13] <Toba> dunno then proubu
[06:13] <kairu0> Toba, i like enlightenment, but i want to have nautilus' desktop icons
[06:13] <nalioth> pete_: in your terminal type "apt-get --version"
[06:13] <Toba> kairu0: hrm true
[06:14] <pete_> nalioth: I can "see" synaptic in /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> now if I can write it will be good Toba
[06:14] <DShepherd> _jason: so what is the rationale behind this? shouldnt there be a link or section in the help that tells the user that epiphany and yelp is dependent on firefox
[06:14] <proubu> Toba, oh ok, ty anyways
[06:14] <intelikey> fit4lfe or are you trying to setup a chrooted jail for a login ?
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  this is the thing, I have a lot of music on my ntfs partition
[06:14] <pete_> pete@baseball:~$ apt-get --version
[06:14] <pete_> apt 0.6.40.1ubuntu9 for linux i386 compiled on Oct  5 2005 13:40:08
[06:14] <pete_> Supported modules:
[06:14] <pete_> *Ver: Standard .deb
[06:14] <pete_> *Pkg:  Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30)
[06:14] <Toba> what's your current fstab line Inf3ctedFx
[06:14] <pete_>  S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary tree
[06:14] <pete_>  S.L: 'deb-src' Standard Debian source tree
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> but I cannot access
[06:14] <pete_>  Idx: Debian Source Index
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Can someone give me a crash-course on apt-spy usage?
[06:14] <Locke> does anyone know of a good lightweight browser?
[06:14] <Toba> whoa pete
[06:14] <_jason> DShepherd, if you view the description in synaptic for each of those packages, they will include firefox
[06:14] <Toba> slow down cowboy
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u my current fstab Toba  hold on
[06:14] <_jason> DShepherd, ... as a dependency
[06:14] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: pm me it
[06:14] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. but still not kool
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: please read the /topic (and don't paste in here)
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: did you choose the default install options or advanced?
[06:15] <pete_> how do I "read" /topic?
[06:15] <Locke> does anybody know of a good lightweight browser with flashplayer?
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: type /topic
[06:16] <pete_> I never use irc because I lothe the interfaces and options.
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  here it is -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6020
[06:16] <intelikey> /topic
[06:16] <Toba> thanks Inf3ctedFx
[06:16] <Toba> I'll take a look at it
[06:16] <nalioth> pete_: there are dozens of irc clients with all differernt interface options
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> ok Toba
[06:17] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx:
[06:17] <Locke> does anyone know how to open conky other than from a terminal?
[06:17] <Toba> add user to the list of options on your ntfs partition
[06:17] <nalioth> Locke: alt-f2 > conky
[06:17] <pete_> ok, well, I guess I will play with this tomorrow and see what I can make of this.
[06:17] <pete_> thanks.
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes Toba ?
[06:17] <intelikey> hmmm /me thought the keyboard was the only interface for irc.....
[06:17] <Toba> one sec
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[06:17] <batman> i need libqt3c102-mt and i search in the synaptic package manager and have no luck
[06:17] <nalioth> intelikey: you dont have a DNI ?
[06:17] <nalioth> batman: what do you need it for?
[06:17] <intelikey> who ?
[06:17] <batman> mysqlcc
[06:17] <intelikey> what's a dni ?
[06:17] <nalioth> intelikey: Direct Neural Interface
[06:18] <intelikey> lol
[06:18] <intelikey> not for irc
[06:18] <nalioth> batman: if you open a console and use apt t0 intall that, it'll tell you the file that replaces it
[06:19] <Locke> does anyone know how to hide a terminal window on the open windows panel?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Is the Ubuntu mirror list available in a plain-text file somewhere?
[06:19] <cafuego> is mysqlcc the gui admin tool?
[06:19] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: just look on the Web site
[06:20] <Toba> hrm
[06:20] <Toba> this isn't too good
[06:20] <batman> says unable to lock the administration then asks if another process is using it
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> r u talking to me Toba ?
[06:20] <batman> admin directory*
[06:20] <nalioth> batman: use sudo or close all your apt instances
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I see a list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive, but I want one as a file to use as an argument for apt-spy.
[06:20] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: no
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> uff ok lol
[06:20] <Locke> does anyone know how to hide a window on the open windows panel?
[06:20] <Toba> I'm worrying about downgrading xchat with synaptic
[06:20] <Toba> hrm...
[06:20] <Kris> Hello, I'm trying to find a way to open a remote X session on my ubuntu box from my windows PC
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> why do u want to donwgrade?
[06:20] <fangorious> nalioth: that fixed it, no more auth errors. thanks.
[06:21] <Locke> ...
[06:21] <Kris> can anyone recommend a good XP friendly remote client?
[06:21] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: meh, I guess I *can* leave it, but I'd rather get rid of backports entirely
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Kris: I haven't tried it yet, but someone told me a good remote access program (cross-platform) was TightVNC.
[06:21] <Toba> Kris: VNC?
[06:21] <batman> nalioth, says that the package isn't available but is referred to by another package
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> backports?
[06:21] <Kris> ok I'll look that up thanks :)
[06:21] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: if you don't know what it is you will have a hard time helping me out :)
[06:22] <nalioth> batman: i can't remember the name but there is a package that replaces it
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> lol I have an idea abot linux....
[06:22] <Toba> ubotu: tell Inf3ctedFx about backports
[06:22] <batman> nalioth, will you please find out i really need to get my server up and running asap
[06:22] <Toba> whoever made ubotu is a genius, btw
[06:22] <Toba> it's exactly what this channel needs
[06:23] <Adross> pony's?
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  u r absolutly right
[06:23] <Kris> woot I found it http://www.tightvnc.com/
[06:23] <Kris> thanks all :)
[06:24] <Toba> unfortunately downgrading is somewhat difficult :(
[06:26] <DShepherd> does anyone have any prob with me pasting too lines?
[06:26] <Adross> no
[06:27] <Adross> but if there's three, God help us
[06:27] <Adross> God help us all
[06:27] <DShepherd> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[06:27] <DShepherd> System error?:: Success
[06:27] <_jason> DShepherd, you used one up with the question so I guess you are down to one now
[06:27] <Victorjiang> how can I install a deb package on ubuntu?What command should I use?
[06:27] <_jason> DShepherd, what browser?
[06:27] <DShepherd> I get that when I try to start firefox
[06:27] <DShepherd> 1.0.7
[06:27] <Toba> which version
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, does it still run?
[06:28] <Toba> which ubuntu version are you using?
[06:28] <DShepherd> _jason: nope.
[06:28] <DShepherd> Toba: breezy
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Why does the mirrors list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive not include the official country mirrrors, i.e. ei.archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:28] <Toba> odd
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, then try again
[06:28] <DShepherd> _jason: ok
[06:28] <Helfax> Hey people.. Is http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ the right site to get a working version of wpa_supplicant for breezy?
[06:28] <Inf3ctedFx> brb
[06:29] <DShepherd> _jason: should I reinstall after,,?
[06:29] <_jason> DShepherd, not if this works
[06:29] <Helfax> I've tried the wpa-howto without success and someone suggested compiling it from src.
[06:29] <DShepherd> _jason: ok.. going to try resintall then
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> I'm also still wondering about the mirror speed checking tool I used before besides apt-spy; it was net-something I think.
[06:30] <poimen> hi I have writen a little howtoo about instaliing xdvdshink on breezy to backup comertial dvds to dvd5 someone kwons were I can post it?
[06:30] <pashaw> Victorjiang,  dkpkg -i
[06:31] <batman> nalioth, i figured it out thanks libqt3c102-mt was replaces with libqt3-mt, thus just install libqt3-mt.
[06:31] <pashaw> Victorjiang, sorry typo   dpkg -i
[06:32] <cafuego> poimen: The wiki
[06:32] <Victorjiang> pashaw :thanks a lot
[06:32] <DShepherd> _jason: purged.. installed.. same error
[06:32] <cafuego> Helfax: No. You could try building the dapper source deb on breezy though (that's version 0.47 now)
[06:33] <batman> does anyone here know of a mysql admin panel i can download?
[06:33] <Victorjiang> who can give me a lower version snmpd?I can't install snmpd_5.1.2 on my dapper flight2.
[06:33] <cafuego> batman: 'sudo apt-get install mysql-admin'.
[06:33] <batman> cafuego, is that what replaced mysqlcc?
[06:33] <cafuego> batman: Maybe, I dunno.
[06:34] <Toba> adding hoary main repositories to a breezy install and then doing an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade should do nothing, right?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> netselect!  That was it.
[06:34] <batman> cafuego, does that automatically add it to the control panel
[06:34] <batman> cafuego, nvm it does thanks a lot
[06:35] <cafuego> Toba: maybe
[06:35] <DShepherd> _jason: starting yelp gives me the same error too. No firefox is installed... on my system
[06:35] <Toba> ah, I do love a decisive answer like that one :)
[06:35] <Chousuke> Shouldn't, anyway
[06:35] <Toba> at least you didn't say yes with false confidence though
[06:35] <Chousuke> but I wouldn't put the sources there.
[06:35] <cafuego> Toba: definitely possibly ;-)
[06:35] <Toba> lol
[06:36] <Toba> Chousuke: see, I drastically need to downgrade to the hoary version of eye of gnome.
[06:36] <Toba> and I can't do that if it isn't in my repositories :(
[06:36] <intelikey> sure maybe.
[06:36] <Chousuke> Toba: You'll probably have to downgrade gnome too
[06:36] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is the same for dapper?
[06:36] <Toba> o_0
[06:36] <Toba> eek
[06:37] <jiangguowei> who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:37] <Chousuke> unless you recompile the older version against breezy libs.
[06:37] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?
[06:37] <Toba> ok upgrade did nothing as I expected
[06:37] <batman> cafuego, am i able to manage my tables etc.. with mysql administrator? cause thats what i'm looking for and it doesn't seem to show anything of the type
[06:37] <Toba> now to try forcing eog down
[06:37] <Kris> does anyone know if there's a version of tightvnc in the apt-get archives for ubuntu?
[06:37] <b00gz> I cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install
[06:37] <c0_cyber> hellooooooo.............////////??????????>>><<<<
[06:38] <Kris> or better yet could anyone tell me how to check if there's such and such package out there regardless of what the package is?
[06:38] <cafuego> batman: Yep, that's what it's for.
[06:38] <intelikey> Kris apt-cache search <blah?>
[06:38] <Toba> woot
[06:38] <Toba> it works
[06:38] <Kris> thanks intelikey
[06:38] <b00gz> I cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982 someone please help!
[06:38] <Toba> and it didn't force me to downgrade gnome
[06:38] <SweetestSavage> Question: Can programs built for KDE be used on GNOME? (EG, Konqueror)?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Kris: Yes, there is.  Do as intelikey said.
[06:38] <batman> cafuego, know if i could just install phpmyadmin?
[06:39] <Toba> b00gz: ndiswrapper is a curse upon humanity, nobody hears your screams
[06:39] <owner989> sweetest yes they can
[06:39] <owner989> they use the kde libs
[06:39] <b00gz> Toba: wtf does that mean?
[06:39] <SweetestSavage> Oh, okay.
[06:39] <intelikey> Kris if you run a gui use synaptic to search....
[06:39] <owner989> install with synaptic
[06:39] <SweetestSavage> Thanks
[06:39] <Kris> cool it works! much better than compiling :)
[06:39] <Toba> b00gz: it means that nobody has yet got ndiswrapper to work on the first try
[06:39] <b00gz> Toba: well I am on my 3rd try please help.
[06:40] <Toba> I NEVER got it to work :(
[06:40] <Kris> my linux box is currently in the corner behind my christmas tree >.< so I'm just trying to set up an X server so I can connect to the gui remotely hehe
[06:40] <Toba> turned out my wifi card was fried
[06:40] <jiangguowei>  who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:40] <Toba> Kris: ahhahaha
[06:40] <b00gz> Toba: my card works in windows just fine...
[06:40] <Toba> b00gz: good luck with that :(
[06:40] <b00gz> Toba: :(
[06:40] <Toba> yeah :(
[06:40] <SweetestSavage> b00gz - Windows and Linux are two different things >.>
[06:40] <b00gz> SweetestSavage: I know this.
[06:40] <Toba> SweetestSavage: yes, and the people who wrote ndiswrapper seem to think otherwise :o
[06:40] <Chousuke> SweetestSavage: Actually..
[06:40] <SweetestSavage> xD
[06:41] <Toba> they are so wrong...
[06:41] <Chousuke> Linux works except when it doesn't, and windows works except when it doesn't
[06:41] <SweetestSavage> Haha. Well, Linux works more consistently than Windows does.
[06:41] <Chousuke> True It also not works  more consistently
[06:42] <Chousuke> +.
[06:42] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?
[06:42] <Chousuke> maybe it uses the rendering engine
[06:42] <Helfax> Can someone explain what dapper is?
[06:42] <intelikey> Chousuke actually i find it  windows works when it works and linux works except when i mess it up.
[06:42] <`23meg> Helfax, dapper is the next version of ubuntu, under development
[06:42] <M_Cheevy> helfax: dapper is short for Dapper Drake the next version
[06:42] <MrProper_> Chousuke, linux is only complicated to people who come from a windows background, most things are alot more logical with linux then windows
[06:42] <SweetestSavage> intelikey - Exactly, Linux works and you know what happens. Windows quits when it feels like it.
[06:43] <Helfax> Ah. Ok. I apologize for the lame question. Thanks though.
[06:43] <teamorph> wow! new Ubuntu version?
[06:43] <lysis> M_Cheevy, how far along is dapper running?
[06:43] <Toba> MrProper_: true.
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Err, When Linux doesn't work you know *
[06:43] <lysis> teamorph, ubuntu has a new release on a schedule of every 6 months i believe.
[06:43] <M_Cheevy> lysis: ain't running it.
[06:43] <lysis> M_Cheevy, fair enough.  wasn't sure if you've kept up on it.
[06:43] <Chousuke> MrProper_: I agree.
[06:43] <Myrtti> April
[06:43] <Toba> SweetestSavage: you may know what happened but you often have to know a TON to fix it :)
[06:43] <teamorph> ok
[06:43] <Helfax> Someone said that the dapper version of wpa_supplicant worked better than the one in breezy.
[06:43] <teamorph> I remember
[06:43] <MrProper_> Toba, much to my dismay coming originally from a windows admin background.....i was surprised how long it took to drop bad (windows) habbits
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Very true. =/
[06:43] <Memphis> hello
[06:43] <jiangguowei>  who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:43] <Toba> MrProper_: oh yes I know.
[06:44] <pashaw> DShepherd, go ask the yelp devs   they set the reqs.
[06:44] <Toba> I was a windows user not six months ago
[06:44] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Linux is more orientated to users who are tagged as "advanced" when it comes to computers, though.
[06:44] <lysis> i see many posts in the forums regarding people wanting it to be prettier . . .   i on the other hand have problems where certain programs become unstable after x amount of hours of usage.  i'm confident that's more important. :)
[06:44] <teamorph> Guys! I have just installed Ubuntu
[06:44] <MrProper_> Toba, a ton to fix is better then reinstalling a production system
[06:44] <M_Cheevy> lysis: got enough on my hands with sata raid 0  and multi-os machines ;)
[06:44] <Toba> it takes some getting used to
[06:44] <teamorph> i am .... mmmmmm lamer in it
[06:44] <Kris> ugh, I hate when a program won't start because a font is missing
[06:44] <DShepherd> pashaw: ok
[06:44] <Toba> MrProper_: true :)
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> is P3 750mhz with 256mb of SDRAM enought for Ubuntu and file server?
[06:44] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Yeah, it does take getting used to. I've been using Linux for 4 days now, I've been a Windows user for 10 years.
[06:44] <Toba> Vaske_Car: should be.
[06:44] <Chousuke> Vaske_Car: Yes.
[06:44] <Kris> Fatal server error:
[06:44] <Kris> could not open default font 'fixed'
[06:44] <pashaw> DShepherd,  does your newer firefox install work?
[06:44] <Kris> >.<
[06:44] <sells> anyone have any issues with getting .m4a to play in linux
[06:44] <lysis> M_Cheevy, ha!  i've got one of those cute little cube computrs . . . . i effing hate it. lol   i can't wait for a tower again.
[06:44] <MrProper_> Vaske_Car, depends on what kind of volume your throughputting
[06:44] <Toba> SweetestSavage: hehe
[06:44] <teamorph> toba - the same i did
[06:44] <charles> Can someone help me with a problem please?
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> It will not be that busy...
[06:44] <lysis> M_Cheevy, long story short . . . no room for raid anything.
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> sells: Other than getting w32codecs, no.
[06:44] <lysis> charles, just ask it my friend.
[06:44] <MrProper_> charles, dont ask  to ask just ask
[06:45] <M_Cheevy> lysis: I'm running on a tower... wouldn't think of doing multiprocessor on anything small ;)
[06:45] <charles> Well, I'm a "noob" with Ubuntu.  Just installed it tonight as a matter of fact.
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> im more interested if that CPU can handle Ubuntu because its pretty old CPU..
[06:45] <intelikey> Chousuke yeah all software sux cept for that that i write   (every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow)
[06:45] <b00gz> Anyone know any other way to make wireless card work other than ndiswrapper
[06:45] <Kris> Vaske_Car, damn near any cpu can handle ubuntu
[06:45] <sells> tonyyarusso: i am certain i installed the right codec. rhythmbox quits unexpectedly
[06:45] <teamorph> the fact is. That i want to use it more
[06:45] <DShepherd> pashaw: well I unistalled that one when installing 1.0.7 was starting. so yeah it worked before.
[06:45] <cafuego> b00gz: magic
[06:45] <Kris> it's more a matter of how fast you want it to run
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> thanks
[06:45] <charles> Anyway, I screwed up my sudo and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[06:45] <b00gz> cafuego: =/
[06:46] <batman> does anyone here know about installing phpmyadmin?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> sells: That I haven't heard of.
[06:46] <Kris> I'd recommend a 300mhz or higher cpu in my experience running it
[06:46] <blanky> in console how do I list the processes
[06:46] <lysis> M_Cheevy, i don't want to upgrade until either the AMD M2 chipset is out and their athlon XPs are cheaper, OR intel comes out with their processors that have virtualization built in. (both in 2Q of 06)
[06:46] <charles> I don't know how to change it back to 440
[06:46] <Kris> I've got a 500mhz box that runs it with no probs
[06:46] <cafuego> b00gz: If it's not supported it's not supported... short of writing a driver yourself there's nothing you can do about it.
[06:46] <lysis> i'm not sure which route i want to go . . . but built in VT would be KICK AY!
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> and for security it it enought to have router and firestarte or I should install realtime antivirus scanner too?
[06:46] <sells> tonyyarusso: yeap, not fun
[06:46] <b00gz> cafuego: what about getting ndiswrapper to work?
[06:46] <teamorph> by the way How to run my avi's DivX 5.0
[06:46] <M_Cheevy> well folks.. having definately problems with CD/DVD ejects... icon shows up on the desktop, but when I close all apps using the drive I still can't eject.   if I use the terminal and 'sudo eject' though it works... from what I've gathered this is not a good way to do it..  any ideas where I start to need to fix this?
[06:46] <ReNt-2-OwN> how do i login as root
[06:47] <sells> tonyyarusso: i cant get xmms to play them,  cant get amarok to play them
[06:47] <intelikey> MrProper_ dsl is nice.   i've ran it on a p1 with 32m ram and 100m hd  :)
[06:47] <cafuego> Vaske_Car: On a normal ubuntu desktop install you need neither a firewall nor anti-virus.
[06:47] <poningru> ReNt-2-OwN: why do you want to login as root?
[06:47] <sells> tonyyarusso: i pulled them directly from my ipod
[06:47] <poningru> we use sudo
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> i know that new version come with firestarte
[06:47] <cafuego> !tell teamorph -about restrictedformats
[06:47] <poningru> but if you really want to
[06:47] <ReNt-2-OwN> poningru: for admin privileges
[06:47] <poningru> !tell ReNt-2-OwN about root
[06:47] <lysis> ok . . . wtf.  i am having SERIOUS effing problems with my flash drive.
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> but im not sure if ubuntu should be protected from viruses as well
[06:47] <poningru> ReNt-2-OwN: did you get that?
[06:48] <MrProper_> intelikey, yeah, its just nice to have a distro now and again that you can just add on basic x with twm with xterm ehhe
[06:48] <sells> tonyyarusso: now amarok won't even start up
[06:48] <lysis> i delete everything on it.  i empty trash.  it shows 480mb free.  i copy a bunch of stuff over to it (windows exe files)   i put it in a laptop i'm repairing.   it has NONE of the files.
[06:48] <ReNt-2-OwN> poningru: yes
[06:48] <lysis> rm: cannot lstat `.Trash-lysis/Utilities/Trend Micro PC-Cillin Internet Security 2005/p\n|l.': Input/output error
[06:48] <Kris> ok i've installed tightvnc server on my ubuntu box, but it won't start because a font is missing. How do I get fonts for ubuntu?
[06:48] <teamorph> Restrictedformats?
[06:48] <cafuego> Vaske_Car: No, windows viruses don't affect Linux.
[06:48] <MrProper_> sells, i have found amarok to be a piece of dog crap if you have any sizable amount of music (like over 5-10gig) using the default sqllite
[06:48] <eclair> teamorph: mp3s, etc are restricted formats
[06:48] <cafuego> Vaske_Car: (apart from the odd IIS exploit probe request)
[06:49] <lysis> that's what happens when i try deleting the .Trash-lysis folder on my drive.  any help PLEASE?   CRUZERmini is the drive i've got. 512mb
[06:49] <teamorph> Ok! i'll try do it. THX
[06:49] <Vaske_Car> ehehe
[06:49] <intelikey> i'm so minimalist. i even remove 'base system' from my linux.
[06:49] <Kris> Linux is just as vulnerable to viruses as Windows, the difference is that no self respecting hacker wants to take the time to write a virus for linux :p
[06:49] <Badm4n> after i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[06:49] <sells> MrProper: cool. just dont understand, cant get my .m4a files to play on nothing in linux
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> sells: I found these packages that seem related: bmp-mp4 faad gstreamer0.8-faad libfaad2-0 libmp4v2-0 xmms-mp4
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> sells: Any of that useful?
[06:49] <servoe> hi
[06:49] <pashaw> Kris,  you did what?   remote desktop should have been preinstalled on Ubuntu  you didnt need to add another VNC server
[06:50] <sells> tonyyarusso: will try, thanks a bunch
[06:50] <charles> Any advice on fixing my sudo?
[06:50] <teamorph> kaffeine, ammaroke - enough for movies
[06:50] <Kris> pashaw cool, how do I use it? >.<
[06:50] <Kris> or better yet, where do I find instructions lol
[06:50] <pashaw> Kris,   System-> Prefs-> Remote Desktop
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> Kris you from Canada?
[06:50] <cafuego> Kris: Actually no, it's inherently more secure.
[06:50] <M_Cheevy> teamorph: personally I prefer xine over kaffiene
[06:51] <Kris> pashaw, my linux box is behind my christmas tree is there a command line version I can access from ssh?
[06:51] <intelikey> Kris really linux is not as 'vulnerable to viruses as Windows' but it is vulnerable to viruses.
[06:51] <sciboy> Hey guys, taking a second try at trying to get my Epson C45 to print ANYTHING. I am running Debian Unstable but i am yet to find a solution even after enquiring in #debian. I look at dmesg after plugging it in and this shows up. "lp: driver loaded but no devices found", also running lsusb "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer".
[06:51] <Kris> Vaske_Car, nope, Portland, Oregon, USA
[06:51] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:51] <cafuego> sciboy: go to http://localhost:631/ and run through the 'Add Printer' wizard. Done.
[06:51] <Kris> there is less threat of viruses on linux because there are less people actively seeking out security holes in it
[06:52] <cafuego> sciboy: (make sure CUPS is installed)
[06:52] <charles> lysis... you responded earlier.  Any advice?
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: Dude, i've done that, over 60 times now.
[06:52] <Badm4n> hello
[06:52] <cafuego> Kris: Actually I think there are rather more.
[06:52] <servoe> WiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"
[06:52] <DShepherd> great!. now I have no firefox and no yelp :(. anyways... thanks pashaw, Toba and _jason.
[06:52] <servoe> :/
[06:52] <teamorph> M-Cheevy - thx a lot
[06:52] <lysis> charles, what's the problem buddy? sorry.  i ran into one of my own.  i saw "how should i fix my sudo"
[06:52] <M_Cheevy> anyone feel up to debugging a cd/dvd eject permissions problem?
[06:52] <intelikey> kris that's not the only thing the write permissions of the fs help too
[06:52] <M_Cheevy> teamorph: no worries
[06:52] <Toba> DShepherd: np
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: "Printer State: stopped, accepting jobs, published. "
[06:52] <jrattner1> Is the new firefox in the repositories?
[06:52] <teamorph> ;-)
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: Can't get it to even print a test page.
[06:52] <cafuego> sciboy: Start teh printer
[06:52] <Badm4n> after i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[06:53] <sciboy> cafuego: It Stops a second later.
[06:53] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you there man?
[06:53] <SweetestSavage> Question: What exactly is the big difference between distributions? And, could some examples be provided?
[06:53] <charles> I screwed up my permissions and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[06:53] <lysis> hmmm
[06:53] <charles> and I need to get the sudo back
[06:53] <sciboy> cafuego: It shows no signs of activity, and mtink is able to check ink levels fine. =/
[06:53] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:53] <lysis> do you have a ubuntu LIVE CD available?
[06:53] <Kaltherz> Hi !!
[06:53] <Kris> ok ok fine I'll dig out my linux box and attempt to get to the desktop
[06:53] <charles> yes
[06:54] <teamorph> see ya guys!
[06:54] <Kaltherz> see ya...
[06:54] <Kris> cya teamorph
[06:54] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you still breathing?
[06:54] <sciboy> cafuego: People have reported success with this printer with multiple gutenprint drivers, so i'm putting my money more into a connection/detection issue of some sort.
[06:54] <eclair> teamorph: see ya
[06:54] <Kaltherz> My question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?
[06:54] <lysis> charles, boot off of the live cd.  open a terminal.   sudo -s       the password is blank.             type chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers           that SHOULD fix.
[06:54] <SweetestSavage> Question: Does anyone know how to compile WINE in 32-bit mode on Ubuntu AMD64?
[06:55] <intelikey> charles have you tried 'chmod 440 /etc/sudoers ' ?
[06:55] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, oh don't worry =P I know, I know.
[06:55] <Vaske_Car> what should I install to be able to access and have Cpanel on my linux server?
[06:55] <charles> intelikey: yes... and get this: chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted
[06:55] <lysis> Vaske_Car, you would need to PURCHASE Cpanel from cpanel.
[06:55] <Kaltherz> My question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?
[06:56] <sciboy> cafuego: "lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[06:56] <Kris> ok I've got the ubuntu remote desktop running, now how do i actually connect to it from my windows box?
[06:56] <sciboy> " is my only lead at the moment.
[06:56] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, it's eventually going to be the higher-end CPU (64-bit, that is) once more support for it is available, so I decided to jump on the early-bandwagon
[06:56] <lysis> intelikey, he can't SU or SUDO to do so.  he needs to boot off of the ubuntu live cd to easily do this.  he stated he has one so i gave him directions to do so.
[06:56] <jah_raztah> for those whom have tried ubuntu dapper flight cd 2 can someone tell me if it's stable enough to use
[06:56] <Vaske_Car> iysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?
[06:56] <pashaw> Kaltherz, yes  install Kubuntu instead, or  apt -> kde   or  apt -> kubuntu-desktop   think that covers it
[06:56] <charles> thanks lysis... I'll try that and will be back  if it doesn't work.
[06:56] <intelikey> k making sure you didn't own it too... charles you will have to boot to single and run the chmod then reboot.
[06:56] <Kaltherz> ...
[06:56] <lysis> charles, come back and let us know either way.
[06:56] <Kaltherz> can be...
[06:56] <charles> will do. thanks.
[06:57] <jrattner1> Is the new firefox in the repositories
[06:57] <lysis> anytime. :)
[06:57] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:57] <Kaltherz> and now another thing
[06:57] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[06:57] <Kaltherz> do you know who the hell can i catch xmule or amule ?
[06:57] <lysis> intelikey, if he would've owned it it wouldn't hvae given him the "Operation not permitted" error. :)
[06:57] <batman> ok this is a dumb question but how do i access phpmyadmin when i have it installed?
[06:57] <Vaske_Car> lysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> !tell jrattner1 about firefox15
[06:57] <Kris> batman, you go to the directory you installed it to on your web server
[06:58] <lysis> Vaske_Car, if you just want a FORUM, use phpbb    it's free and works on linux.
[06:58] <intelikey> lysis yes it will.  the mod 777 trips the error.
[06:58] <SweetestSavage> Question: What kind of support does Ubuntu have for hardware sound-card acceleration? I can't seem to install my sound-card.. and it's using software acceleration right now, which is really laggy and slow
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> also when I install cpanel do I need to run separately MySql server or Cpanel control and install it automatically
[06:58] <b00gz> how do I install WPC11 pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:58] <lysis> intelikey, hmmm  . . . i didn't think that could happen.  why would mod 777 break it?
[06:58] <Kris> so if it's installed to /documentroot/phpMyAdmin/ you would go to http://mywebsite/phpMyAdmin/
[06:58] <Kris> etc
[06:58] <M_Cheevy> how do I get a quick list of who's using a device?
[06:58] <batman> Kris, well.. i go to synaptic and search for phpmyadmin it shows i have it installed but when i search for phpmyadmin in the search it doesn't come up o.O
[06:58] <intelikey> lysis security test
[06:59] <Kris> dunno what to tell you batman, I always install it manually
[06:59] <Kaltherz> pashaw, do you know of any other repository to add ?
[06:59] <batman> Kris, do you know where i can find a guide to install it manually?
[06:59] <Kris> yes, check the phpmyadmin web site
[06:59] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:00] <batman> Kris, does it go through the steps on a linux server though
[07:00] <Kris> http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
[07:00] <Kris> it's the same on both windows and linux
[07:00] <sciboy> cafuego: CUPSYS Web Administration Error: server-error-device-error
[07:00] <intelikey> if it is 777 it is world writable lysis which is vertually the same as $USER=root  because anyone can modify the file that allows root access.   so sudo fails if it is ##4 or higher.
[07:01] <Kris> to install it you must first have a web server (preferably apache) and a database (preferably MySQL) running
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> hi anyone know why when I try to delete songs from my mp3 player (usb) they stay on the device but don't show when the device is mounted?
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> (its a vfat fs
[07:01] <pashaw> Kalthers, Help-> starter guide-> installing apps       scroll down Universe/Multiverse     and/or  use Automatix
[07:01] <Kris> can anyone help me figure out how to use the remote desktop server that comes with ubuntu?
[07:01] <lysis> intelikey, interesting . . .   so if the sudo ?program? (binary whatever it's called) is set for world useage then that would be a security error and you wouldn't be able to run it because the kernel knows better?
[07:01] <biovore> anyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> thanks
[07:02] <Kaltherz> i have added both Universe/Multiverse
[07:02] <intelikey> lysis not the binary  but the config file /etc/sudoers   yes
[07:02] <Kaltherz> but i will try with automatix
[07:02] <lysis> intelikey, ok config file . . .   see without file extension i'm still always a bit confused as to what is what.
[07:02] <pppoe_dude> on ubuntu it seems as if the files deleted fine,
[07:02] <pppoe_dude> but they still play on the mp3 player
[07:02] <intelikey> the binary /usr/bin/sudo is world exec
[07:02] <pashaw> Kaltherz,  you then did a reload  in Synapti
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> ubuntu just doesnt see them anymore
[07:03] <lysis> pashaw, i'm told that automatix shouldn't be recommended as it has several issues and may sometimes break machines.
[07:03] <Kaltherz> but...
[07:03] <servoe> WiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"
[07:03] <pashaw> lysis,   fair enough
[07:03] <lysis> although myself on the other hand don't have problems with it other than it not installing all of the software i request. :)
[07:03] <Kaltherz> there is one another
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[07:03] <Kaltherz> i have readed just two days ago
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[07:03] <lysis> aww come on . . .
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[07:03] <Kaltherz> to write in the personal repository
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[07:04] <lysis> fabbione, i thank you . . .
[07:04] <pashaw> lysis, yeah i used it today again and all went fine for me
[07:04] <intelikey> lysis rule of thumb on that binaries are in *bin/   there are exceptions of course.
[07:04] <fabbione> no problem
[07:04] <lysis> pashaw, it just didn't install silly things like limewire and azureus.  other than that i'm golden.
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> anyone
[07:04] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> tried google to no avail
[07:04] <UncleD> Anyone here running named on their ubuntu machine and using it as a nameserver for domains to point to?
[07:04] <Kris> pashaw, could you help me figure out how to use this remote desktop thing you pointed me to?
[07:05] <pashaw> lysis, same here  just went after the basics
[07:05] <Kaltherz> thanks a lot pashaw
[07:05] <lysis> pashaw, ahh . . .
[07:05] <Kaltherz> i must leave
[07:05] <biovore> anyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?
[07:05] <Kaltherz> bye bye !!
[07:05] <pashaw> Kris, ok   i havent used it myself  take a sec to give it a go
[07:06] <mrkoje> UncleD, thats on my list of things to do
[07:06] <lysis> intelikey, that makes sense . . .    i just still sometimes have problems with all the different things.  like, if you download a program, you can just put the program into the /usr/local/bin and it'll work without having to install it sometimes
[07:06] <lysis> charles how'd that work?
[07:06] <Kris> ok thanks
[07:06] <charles> well, I'm running on the live cd now and did the sudo -s thing
[07:06] <lysis> yes
[07:06] <lysis> the password should be blank, so just press enter.
[07:06] <charles> I'm in root now, but nothing is happening when I type in chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[07:06] <intelikey> if it's an executable lysis yes.
[07:07] <lysis> intelikey, so files in linux that are executable don't require other files to run?  ALL of the stuff is in there?  no "dll" files or anything it would maybe reference out of it's own tar.gz folder?
[07:07] <intelikey> charles   in linux  no error means no error.
[07:07] <charles> okay... I'll restart and see if it worked.
[07:07] <lysis> you should be A OK :)
[07:07] <mrkoje> break in service?
[07:07] <intelikey> charles  ls -l the file to make sure
[07:08] <lysis> it'll probably last for several hours.
[07:08] <lysis> maybe even days. (mrkoje)
[07:08] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 status" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:08] <intelikey> might save a reboot or two
[07:08] <charles> okay... you'll have to interpret this for me (sorry... noob) it says -r--r-----
[07:08] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?
[07:08] <XchimaeraX> that is right charles
[07:09] <mrkoje> lysis, they say there just restarting the machines....
[07:09] <mrkoje> lysis, we shall see
[07:09] <pashaw> Kris,  too easy  :P   enable the sharing in the remote app      then use the windows VNCviewer  type in the ip address of the ubuntu box  and connect
[07:09] <lysis> mrkoje, i still suggest we prepare with enough food and water just in case.
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  I don't know what I'll do with out my irc....
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: i know i must put sudo in front of a command to run it as admin but im not using the terminal, only the GUI
[07:10] <intelikey> ReNt-2-OwN you didn't set your root fs /  to mount  'nosuid' did you ?    and are we talking gnome or what desktop ?
[07:10] <Kris> windows VNC viewer?
[07:10] <lysis> mrkoje, thank god i use two servers at once. ;)
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> intelikey: im not sure, how do i find out?
[07:10] <pashaw> Kris, you said you downloaded a VNC app right?
[07:10] <intelikey> ReNt-2-OwN cat /etc/fstab
[07:10] <Kris> yes
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  what other good servers are out there?
[07:10] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: when the GUI stuff asks for a pw, they're using sudo too - use your own user pw
[07:10] <Kris> are they all compatable then?
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  I find this is the best tech server....
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: it doesnt ask for a password
[07:11] <pashaw> Kris, yes
[07:11] <lysis> mrkoje, i also chat with friends on 2600.  they're quite helpful with general linux questions that i'd rather not bother you with.   ubuntu on freenode is the BEST for ubuntu though. :)
[07:11] <mrkoje> lysis,  Ive been on 2600 but its always dead....
[07:11] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: try starting Synaptic - System - Admin - Synaptic - it should ask for a pw, and you'll use your regular user pw
[07:12] <mrkoje> lysis,  well it is when I'm on anyway
[07:12] <Kris> hmmmm
[07:12] <pashaw> Kris, ??
[07:12] <Kris> it says please wait, initial screen loading
[07:12] <lysis> mrkoje, i'm in ohio, so luckily my state has the second most popular channel. :)
[07:12] <lysis> it's usually dead until late late like now.
[07:12] <lysis> now there's 3 of us chatting out of the 30 in the room. *laughs*
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> !plf
[07:12] <ubotu> plf is probably the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[07:12] <mrkoje> lysis,  Last time I was on 2600 I didn't even see a texas channel
[07:13] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: Synaptic Package Manager?
[07:13] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: that's the one
[07:13] <pashaw> Kris,   did you make sure "ASK you for CONFIRMATION"  is not checked on the ubuntu box
[07:13] <ReNt-2-OwN> intelikey: i ran that command, what should i look for?
[09:25] (ejofee/#ubuntu) why can't i find azureus in any repo?!
[09:25] (anacaona/#ubuntu) ejofee: been asking myself the same question...
[09:25] (M_Cheevy/#ubuntu) project23: plus I began to realise how much hal, udev, and pmount have to do with the automount system.. add kde3.5 to the mix after kunbuntu and it gets really scootched up
[09:26] <M_Cheevy> awstott: could be any number of things... have you tried reconfiguring your xserver?
[09:26] <awstott> I havn't changed any settings or anything
[09:27] <awstott> everything is all default
[09:27] <awstott> this box runs fine on hoary, and sarge
[09:27] <ejofee> anacaona: let's insist... maybe somebody knows the answer :)
[09:27] <awstott> but as soon as i put breezy on it locks up
[09:27] <M_Cheevy> awstott: I'd kill the gdm processes... kill X with the old alt+ctrl+bksp and then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if that works better
[09:28] <M_Cheevy> awstott: wait a sec.. you put this on top of sarge??
[09:28] <anacaona> ejofee: i installed it from reps once, but i've since changed my sources.list so many times...
[09:28] <awstott> no
[09:28] <awstott> I wiped sarge off
[09:28] <ejofee> anacaona: i know it used to be on a repo, but it has been removed
[09:28] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: never delete from your sources unless you have to.. always comment it out.. that way you can find it again
[09:29] <M_Cheevy> awstott: phew!
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> Can someone please answer this question: How do I do this.. checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one <--- ??
[09:29] <awstott> lol
[09:29] <M_Cheevy> awstott:  still I'd kill the gdm stuff for the now, smash x on the head with a+c+b and then reconfig xserver
[09:29] <lampshade> hey everyone
[09:30] <M_Cheevy> yo lampshade
[09:30] <mitrovarr> hey everyone, I'm trying to get LIRC running, and I need a little help getting stuff set up
[09:30] <mitrovarr> I can get it running, but I need to feed it a ton of commands before it works.  I'm trying to get it to run on bootup
[09:31] <fit4lfe> does anyone have lundfxp ?
[09:31] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: check the readme's.. there should be a config file somewhere
[09:31] <mitrovarr> basically before it works I have to do 'setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none' to kill the serial port, then modprobe lirc_serial and lirc_dev, then run lircd
[09:32] <lampshade> testing my xchat colors
[09:32] <M_Cheevy> mitrovar:  you could create a script along the lines of the /etc/init.d stuff........
[09:32] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: fits of rage, my friend, fits of rage! ;-)
[09:32] <GTroy> anyone have a clue to why x-chat stopped working, but konversations does?
[09:33] <GTroy> I reinstalled but with no better effect
[09:33] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: something along the lines of "Thanks for shining a searchlight on the already glaringly obvious?"
[09:34] <mitrovarr> hmm, there's already a script there
[09:34] <mitrovarr> I guess it doesn't work though
[09:35] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: depends, is it in the right runlevel? has it got the commands you need?
[09:35] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: before messing with those files directly, why not check the documentation and see if there is a config file you might use to set options?  use synaptic to see where it put what files
[09:36] <mitrovarr> the lirc from synaptic just plain didn't work
[09:36] <mitrovarr> I had to compile from source
[09:36] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: no, not really, just that i get a bit, um, passionate sometimes and instead of listening to that greek choir to my left i get all delete-happy
[09:36] <mitrovarr> getting the modules to come out right was... unpleasant.
[09:36] <M_Cheevy> well then, you should know where the readme is  ;)
[09:37] <M_Cheevy> anacaona:  It'd be too much of a bear to switch to greek characters for the joke I had in  mind ;)
[09:38] <mitrovarr> I think the main problem is that it's supposed to work without shutting off the serial port, but mine won't, so it can't start up automatically
[09:38] <M_Cheevy> and I always thought that it was paris that was burning
[09:40] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: plus, i failed greek in school. miserably
[09:41] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: that it was greek was half the joke.. hardly expected an obscure aristophanies line to register with many
[09:42] <anacaona> ejofee: legend has it that azureus is available on universe
[09:42] <anacaona> ejofee: tried packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:42] <M_Cheevy> okay, maybe time to shift keister....
[09:42] <Morg> Why is it that audio doesn't usually work when there is more than one program trying to play sound?
[09:43] <Morg> And why might videos and flash not play audio after I've used another application that plays audio?
[09:43] <anacaona> howto multiple sounds at once : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101125
[09:43] <Morg> Err, videos and flash in Firefox
[09:43] <anacaona> Morg - that might help ya
[09:44] <awstott> well I didn't break anything :)
[09:44] <awstott> we shall see if it freezes up again
[09:44] <awstott> hehe
[09:45] <linlin> hi im looking for info to get a soundblaster pro 5.1 live gold edition sound card working any way possible.
[09:45] <ELpH95o> I've actually started liking linux thanks to ubuntu and gentoo
[09:47] <intelikey> ELpH95o i'm not sure how gentoo helped that.....
[09:47] <awstott> gentoo scared me when I first booted it up
[09:48] <awstott> havn't touched it since
[09:48] <intelikey> well actually i'm not sure how ub helped that either...
[09:48] <ejofee> anacaona: could you please send me the etc/apt entry for packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:48] <ejofee> anacaona: (although i am pretty much sure i have everything -- i collected all sources from source-o-matic
[09:48] <ejofee> )
[09:49] <ELpH95o> i usually compile my own stuff
[09:49] <ejofee> anacaona: the legend is false, anyway.
[09:49] <ELpH95o> that's the part of linux that's fun
[09:49] <ejofee> anacaona: it used to be true, indeed.
[09:49] <mitrovarr> when stuff actually compiles :-p
[09:50] <anacaona> packages.ubuntu.com just lets you search the official repos
[09:50] <anacaona> and i just tried it, no azureus
[09:50] <awstott> I wanna get mythtv goin on my box....
[09:50] <awstott> having a helluva time tho
[09:51] <intelikey> hmmm i'm wondering what is having to time out in kde ....  it is really problematic with / = nosuid
[09:53] <ELpH95o> i'm from bsd land
[09:53] <intelikey> well it finally timed out and everything is working ok,  but i wish it would have given an error message.
[09:53] <ELpH95o> mite, :i feel quite comfy in linux although im new to it
[09:54] <ejofee> ELpH95o: which bsd?
[09:54] <intelikey> yeah bsd land knows about  / nosuid   and  / nodev   :)
[09:56] <robotgeek> hi, my wireless card is able to associate with a network. however, it's not able to get an ip from the router. any ideas? (i'm on dapper)
[09:56] <project23> try it without any security first (no wep). It might be bad wep keys
[09:56] <QQ_ghost> has anyone set up a LAM using ubuntu?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> http://pastebin.com/474743   What is this file?  My computer locked up while I was editing a file in vim, and it created this file named after myfile.23.greg
[09:57] <intelikey> lol  most  people that use it have.
[09:57] <proubu> can i get some help please? im trying to install vmware on breezy and i have problems with the linux headers, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[09:57] <proubu> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386) so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[09:57] <funkyHat> QQ_ghost, Local Area Motorbike?
[09:58] <funkyHat> ;)
[09:58] <QQ_ghost> funkyHat: lol... LA was right, M=Multicomputer
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> How do I open directories with a space in the name? IE, "Name With A Space" in the terminal?
[09:58] <funkyHat> SweetestSavage, escape the space with a \ before it
[09:58] <mitrovarr> hit tab to let it complete it for you?
[09:59] <funkyHat> i.e. file\ name
[09:59] <niffe> how do i see if i have "pcmcia" service stared at system boot?
[09:59] <intelikey> escape the space  this\ is\ how
[09:59] <intelikey> or quote  "this is how"
[10:00] <funkyHat> niffe, try /etc/init.d/pcmcia status
[10:00] <cbx33> what package do i download to get the kernel source for ubunutu
[10:01] <niffe> funkyHat: hmm, it says ok. But still there is no power on light, on my wlan card
[10:01] <ejofee> if i use packages from "dapper, the drake", will that break my "breezy, the badger"?
[10:02] <proubu> please, i need help with that :P
[10:02] <fit4lfe> !chroot
[10:02] <ubotu> hmm... chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:02] <funkyHat> ejofee, if you add dapper's repositories to your breezy install, you are likely to break your system
[10:02] <ejofee> proubu: with what?
[10:02] <intelikey> hmmm says sound server failed  cpu overload aborting   but it's still got something timming out...
[10:03] <proubu> ejofee, im trying to install vmware in breezy, i just read wiki but i got a problem...
[10:03] <ejofee> funkyHat: what if i install only un-essential packages (on which (almost) no other packages depend)
[10:03] <proubu> ejofee, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[10:03] <proubu> proubu kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386)
[10:03] <FlannelKing> anyone had any luck setting up apache/svn with the apache web data being updated from a subversion repo?
[10:04] <funkyHat> ejofee, if you download a package from dapper's repositories and install it using dpkg, you are very unlikely to break your system, but you may find the package does not work
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: install a matching one!
[10:04] <proubu> ejofee,  so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: you'll surely find it in apt-get
[10:04] <proubu> ejofee, nope =(
[10:04] <ELpH95o> what is the addy to dapper's repositories
[10:04] <henk> join #colinux
[10:04] <henk> sorry
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: find it manually, maybe there's some difference
[10:04] <ELpH95o> vmware..m..u got vmware?
[10:05] <ejofee> proubu: compare uname -r to whatever you see in, say, synaptic
[10:05] <proubu> ejofee, yeah i did that too but it's not in synaptic either :S
[10:06] <ejofee> maybe you forgot to update the kernel?
[10:06] <proubu> ejofee, well i dont know how to do that
[10:06] <intelikey> hehhe  /usr/bin/kdeinit --suicide  <-- what is this arg all about ?
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: do you use synaptic?
[10:07] <proubu> ejofee, yeah
[10:07] <niffe> ok, so i have that error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6025
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: do you have the updates added to the sources repo list
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: ?
[10:08] <aeon17x> I'm trying to compile something, but it gives me this error - "configure: error: *** Cannot compile without zlib.
[10:08] <aeon17x> "
[10:08] <Chousuke> install zlibg1-dev or something
[10:08] <ejofee> funkyHat: are you implying i shouldn't do it with apt-get, but only with dpkg?
[10:08] <proubu> ejofee, u mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:08] <funkyHat> ejofee, yes
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: yes, that's it's name
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: (as a file)
[10:09] <funkyHat> ejofee, and if dependencies becomes a pain, I'd take that as a sign you shouldn't be doing that just yet ;)
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: add everything you find in ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:10] <ejofee> funkyHat: i should i avoid doing that with apt-get? how does it complicate things?
[10:10] <aeon17x> Now it complains about libpng.... so that's what the dev packages are for. Cool.
[10:11] <proubu> ejofee, nice! so can i add the version of linux-headers that i need and then use apt-get?
[10:11] <funkyHat> ejofee, you seem to know what you're talking about, so you're probably safe enough using apt-get to do what you want, just be careful you don't go upgrading core libs or anything
[10:11] <intelikey> niffe interesting.  yet another thing i can use to say "that's why i don't like sudo"
[10:12] <zven> How to play different tracks of VCD using totem?
[10:12] <ejofee> funkyHat: right, i will surely not update core libs. thanks.
[10:12] <intelikey> niffe what are you trying to get working?  wireless card ?
[10:12] <GTroy> anyone had any problems with x-chat?
[10:13] <KiaN> GTroy: what kinf of problem ?
[10:13] <KiaN> kind
[10:13] <ejofee> GTroy: nope... what kind of problems?
[10:13] <GTroy> I can't connect to any server
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: not really
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: first just add the sources from the link i gave you
[10:13] <intelikey> bx here
[10:13] <niffe> intelikey: yes
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:13] <KiaN> i have no problem and i'm been using X-chat on Ubuntu for a while
[10:13] <GTroy> KiaN:hmmm
[10:13] <GTroy> I reinstalled and no fix
[10:14] <ejofee> proubu: then pres "reload" in synaptic, just in case.
[10:14] <Oceanborn> Well.. I have VCD with 3 tracks.. Totem plays only 1st track, but how to play 3rd?
[10:14] <Nei> hello, could someone tell me how to set my vc background colour to white?
[10:15] <proubu> ejofee, ok, done
[10:15] <ardchoille> bbiab
[10:15] <intelikey> niffe lsmod  should tell ya if the cs module is loaded or not and that just about all i know about pcmcia  and as for wireless..... hehhe i don't know if i could get a wire working let alone a wireless.
[10:16] <intelikey> !wifi
[10:16] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:16] <intelikey> !wireless
[10:16] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:17] <intelikey> if that might help you any niffe ^
[10:17] <niffe> hehe, looking at it :)
[10:17] <GTroy> hello talios
[10:18] <intelikey> nei vc ?  console ?
[10:18] <Nei> intelikey, yes my console
[10:18] <talios> evening
[10:18] <intelikey> you want white !    *shivers*
[10:18] <Nei> I want white.
[10:21] <niffe> sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules  it says permission denied!?
[10:21] <Nei> sudo "..."
[10:21] <Nei> else it's (sudo echo) >>
[10:21] <proubu> ejofee, now i need to re-try what i was doing?
[10:22] <niffe> Nei: what?
[10:23] <ejofee> proubu: yes
[10:23] <Nei> niffe, the command will run as sudo only up to the >>
[10:23] <cbx33> anyone here installed unionfs on ubuntu???
[10:24] <ejofee> proubu: but it's good to see what available updates you are getting and if there's any kernel among them
[10:24] <intelikey> i don't think you will get that to work.  the echo will be root but it is on a term/console that std* is not root so   sudo echo blah > will not have root power
[10:24] <ejofee> cbx33: your quesion sounds rather like a warning!!! :)
[10:24] <niffe> so, what to i have to type to make it work?
[10:25] <proubu> ejofee, well i didnt get the linux-header version that i need to install vmware :S *sigh* i guess i'll need to recompile my kernel
[10:25] <intelikey> sudo -     then the command
[10:25] <ejofee> proubu: why recompile? why don't you just install 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:25] <ejofee> proubu: (i guess yours is 2.6.12-9-386, right?)
[10:26] <proubu> ejofee, well, no... i have right now 2.6.12-10 installed but kernel has 2.6.10-5-386
[10:26] <niffe> btw, what is the default root password?
[10:27] <cbx33> ejofee, not so much of a warning more of a ./......it doesn't work on 5.04
[10:27] <intelikey> !root
[10:27] <intelikey> !+root
[10:27] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:27] <corresponder> moin
[10:28] <student> Hallo
[10:28] <corresponder> ;-)
[10:28] <ejofee> cbx33: i see... what do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
[10:28] <ejofee> cbx33: won't boot?
[10:29] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> sir do u still have originally pressed ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu 5.10 CDs?
[10:29] <jsgotangco> dsaa, there's no kubuntu/edubuntu pressed just uubuntu
[10:29] <cbx33> ejofee, no you can't install it
[10:29] <cbx33> make error
[10:30] <ejofee> cbx33: oh, i see.
[10:30] <cbx33> I'm just doing a dist-pugrade
[10:31] <intelikey> niffe if you wish to set the password for root it is simple to do.  sudo passwd       and when it prompts give your passwd then read what it says.    the official "ubuntu" policy is to not even tell people that.... but i don't use ubuntu.
[10:31] <niffe> ok
[10:31] <niffe> hmm, cant get this linksys wpc54g working :/
[10:31] <ejofee> intelikey: what do you use instead?
[10:32] <ejofee> intelikey: debian?
[10:32] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> ok, do u still have copies of originally pressed ubuntu 5.10 CDs? could u share some to me?
[10:32] <awstott> 5.10? thats hoary right?
[10:32] <intelikey> ejofee mdk
[10:32] <jsgotangco> dsaa, where are you located
[10:32] <pinucset> one think, how can i do that enemy territory runs with sudo always? it seems doesnt work without
[10:33] <ejofee> intelikey: why don't you switch to mdv? :P
[10:33] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> currently im using edubuntu here in our school in tacurong city, sultan kudarat
[10:33] <intelikey> dialup
[10:33] <intelikey> hehhe and why upgrade something that works to something that almost works lol
[10:33] <ejofee> intelikey: then why are you on this channel?
[10:34] <jsgotangco> dsaa, hmmm join us in #ubuntu-ph
[10:34] <proubu> ejofee, well im done for today... couldnt install it =( thanks for ur help
[10:34] <ejofee> proubu: couldn't install what?
[10:34] <intelikey> ejofee is that an invetation for me to leave ?
[10:34] <ejofee> proubu: the new kernel?
[10:34] <ejofee> intelikey: NO!!!
[10:34] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> ok, how?
[10:34] <ejofee> intelikey: not at all
[10:34] <intelikey> well just like trying to help.
[10:34] <jsgotangco> dsaa, type /j ubuntu-ph
[10:34] <jsgotangco> err
[10:35] <jsgotangco> dsaa, type /j #ubuntu-ph
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, lol no, the vmware...
[10:35] <ejofee> intelikey: i am just curious what you find so interesting about ubuntu that you attend this chan without even using ubuntu
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, just got this always
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[10:35] <proubu> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel.
[10:35] <intelikey> and i have wasted a lot of time with linux so i can answer some questions no matter what the distro.
[10:35] <ejofee> proubu: why don't you install 2.6.12-10-386, as i said earlier?
[10:35] <ejofee> proubu: are you ignoring my suggestions? :P
[10:36] <proubu> ejofee, lol no... i'll try that
[10:36] <intelikey> ejofee this channel.   :)
[10:36] <ejofee> proubu: btw, are you using breezy? (i guess i should have asked you this much earlier)
[10:36] <proubu> ejofee, yep im using breezy
[10:36] <ejofee> proubu: then please reread what i said earlier, i won't say it again :)
[10:36] <intelikey> ejofee that's the only thing i like about ubuntu.   this channel.   lol
[10:37] <proubu> ejofee, about 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: i wonder how come you have installed 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy (?!)...
[10:37] <ejofee> intelikey: well... that's... nice.
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: what about 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: oh, yes
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: what i wrote about that (not much).
[10:38] <proubu> ejofee, and i dont know why i have 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy, maybe it's cuz before the upgrade i had that
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: i think you should see it on the updates list
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: that may explain things.
[10:39] <intelikey> yep you can have multipel kernels installed
[10:40] <intelikey> and put them all in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  and boot any of them
[10:40] <proubu> ejofee, is there a way to get 2.6.12-10-386 besides apt-get? cuz i just need them installed to install vmware and then i dont need them anymore
[10:41] <agorf> hello. when installing ubuntu, should i mark my / partition as bootable?
[10:41] <intelikey> agorf that's not nessarry
[10:42] <agorf> thx
[10:42] <intelikey> agorf the boot loader will be installed to mbr ?
[10:42] <agorf> yes
[10:42] <intelikey> yeah it wont matter then
[10:43] <agorf> so i only need swap, and a / partition ?
[10:43] <ejofee> proubu: i don't understand the question
[10:43] <intelikey> techenically you only need /
[10:43] <QQ_ghost> is there a way to boot a cd on a system that won't do it through the bios?
[10:43] <xiaogil> what is the equivalent of power point on linux ?
[10:43] <agorf> gr8, thanks :)
[10:43] <aeon17x> xiaogil: OpenOffice.org Impress
[10:44] <ejofee> proubu: what's the problem if you keep it installed?
[10:44] <intelikey> swap is optional, but the installer may cry without it.
[10:44] <xiaogil> aeon17x: is it compatible with power point ?
[10:45] <ejofee> intelikey: any idea why, when booting single user, it asks for a password and won't accept any?
[10:45] <aeon17x> xiaogil: to a certain extent, yes.
[10:45] <ejofee> xiaogil: mostly, yes
[10:45] <proubu> ejofee, well, actually i dont have problems if i keep it installed but i cant download/get 2.6.12-5-386 and i need it to install vmware :S
[10:46] <intelikey> ejofee no.  that should never happen.  booting to single user it should auto login root
[10:46] <QQ_ghost> so OOo impress functions now? holy crap...
[10:46] <ejofee> proubu: as long as you need the right headers... i don't see any other solution (and still keeping your apt-get consistent)
[10:46] <intelikey> to console   tty1  of course
[10:47] <proubu> ejofee, yeah, i guess that too... *sigh*
[10:47] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: apparently it functions as well as MS PowerPoint, for whatever that's worth... ;)
[10:47] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: had issues with it?
[10:47] <ejofee> proubu: sorry.
[10:47] <ejofee> proubu: it's better to update anyway.
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: yeah, back in like, 1.0 / 1.1
[10:48] <proubu> ejofee, hehe yeah.... well, thanks for ur help man =)
[10:48] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: well, now it's 2.0... things *may* have changed, right? :)
[10:48] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: sorry comment was for ejofee...
[10:48] <ejofee> proubu: anytime :)
[10:48] <proubu> gnight all
[10:48] <icbu> is azureus packaged as part of synaptic? If so how do I find it please?
[10:48] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: i detected it it had been for me
[10:48] <ejofee> :)
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ejofee: hope so, everything else is more functional than i need
[10:49] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: never used Impress, but OOo2 Writer is far nicer than OOo1 to use...
[10:49] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: right :P
[10:50] <intelikey> !azureus
[10:50] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:50] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: i mostly use spreadsheet stuff, but i have been wanting to put together a presentation...
[10:52] <QQ_ghost> is it possible to boot to cd from grub?
[10:52] <intelikey> yes
[10:52] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: (me?)
[10:53] <Rakshak> Can anyone tell me how to make a custom live CD?
[10:53] <intelikey> yeah but don't ask me to do it for you QQ_ghost i did it one time with lilo but never with grub, but i know it can be done.
[10:53] <kestas> createcustomlivecd.sh ?
[10:53] <Rakshak> does that sh command work, really?
[10:53] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: is there a how-to page?
[10:53] <marcel> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a ppc 7600/200 but the CD wont boot. What gives?
[10:53] <Rakshak> on ubuntu forums?
[10:54] <intelikey> QQ_ghost man gurb
[10:54] <intelikey> it should have the howto boot a cd in there
[10:54] <kestas> marcel, Im pretty sure that's too old
[10:54] <marcel> ok
[10:54] <marcel> :(
[10:54] <niffe> how can i change resolution?
[10:54] <kestas> try g3+
[10:54] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: thanx
[10:54] <ejofee> intelikey: are you sure it can? i thought all bootloaders leave bios that choice
[10:55] <olicat> any ideas on how i can connect to a vpn in ubuntu breezy?
[10:56] <intelikey> being a lilo man myself and having set up lilo to boot a cd, and being in a channel that is owned by grub zealots, if i said lilo could and grub couldn't i'd probably get kicked......
[10:57] <intelikey> ejofee if you are asking have i ever done it,  see above.  the answer is no.
[10:57] <kestas> intelikey, Im no grub zealot but grub can boot a cd
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: i like lilo too, but i don't have it installed...
[10:57] <ejofee> intelikey: no, i am not asking you that :)
[10:58] <QQ_ghost> kestas: where can i obtain the info on that?
[10:58] <opossum> hallo@all
[10:58] <intelikey> possum
[10:58] <opossum> im from germany
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> kestas: where can i obtain the info to use grub to boot a cd?
[10:59] <intelikey> opossum
[10:59] <opossum> hi
[11:00] <n37> hi <3'z ;>
[11:00] <opossum> spricht hie jemand deutsch?
[11:00] <cricek> Hmm guys 1 question my /dev/sda links somehow dissapeared from /dev
[11:00] <cricek> how do I get em back ?
[11:00] <n37> any1 knows what distribution i must download of mysql?
[11:00] <kestas> QQ_ghost, hmm I thought it could but I guess I was thinking about grub on a floppy or CD, apparently grub on a HDD can't for some reason
[11:00] <intelikey> no english is all i speek
[11:00] <kestas> QQ_ghost, better go with lilo I guess
[11:01] <n37> mysql distro 4 ubuntu?
[11:01] <n37> any1 knows?
[11:01] <n37> :<
[11:01] <opossum> where do you com from inteli?
[11:01] <QQ_ghost> kestas:  i suppose i could install lilo on ubuntu (OH THE HORROR!) from a slackware disk...
[11:02] <intelikey> cricek use something scsi or usb maybe
[11:02] <QQ_ghost> lol
[11:02] <cricek> intelikey, Hmm
[11:02] <cricek> scsi or usb :))
[11:02] <cricek> ok
[11:02] <intelikey> so udev will call modprobe
[11:02] <cricek> yeah I checked lspci
[11:02] <intelikey> modprobe will make them  and badabing there you go.
[11:03] <n37> any help plz? :S
[11:03] <ejofee> opossum: #ubuntu-de
[11:03] <n37> mysql on ubuntu?
[11:03] <cricek> modprobe ???
[11:03] <n37> !mysql
[11:03] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:03] <opossum> ejofee hi
[11:03] <cricek> but modprobe ...only loads modules for kernel
[11:03] <intelikey> !mysql
[11:03] <cricek> intelikey,
[11:03] <n37> :>
[11:04] <intelikey> cricek heh
[11:04] <cricek> where do you have modules here
[11:04] <n37> !lampdownload
[11:04] <ubotu> n37: Not a clue
[11:04] <n37> :/
[11:04] <n37> !lamp
[11:04] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <n37> rofl
[11:04] <niffe> How can i change resolution from a command line?
[11:04] <cricek> !usb
[11:04] <ubotu> cricek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:04] <n37> lmao!
[11:04] <intelikey> cricek you haven't been using linux long have you ?
[11:04] <QQ_ghost> lol
[11:05] <n37> !rofl
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:05] <n37> !yay
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:05] <n37> !sure
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: What?
[11:05] <n37> !dunno
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Are you on ritalin?
[11:05] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[11:05] <cricek> Hmm intelikey ....evry day ...but suse not ubuntu
[11:05] <n37> !ritalinsux
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:05] <Madpilot> !tell n37 about msg the bot
[11:05] <n37> omgthx :>
[11:07] <intelikey> cricek well modprobe not only loads the module into the kernel(portion of mem) but part of the process is also calling MAKEDEV with all the proper major's and minor's  and alias's  so that the module is then usable.
[11:08] <cricek> Hmm ok ...then there is only one question left ...
[11:08] <cricek> where do I get this module to load
[11:08] <icbu> thanks intelikely - installed and working :)
[11:09] <xukun> anybody know a software to emulate cisco routers?
[11:09] <intelikey> like i said access something scsi or maybe a usb stick and udev will (by calling modprobe) make the devices
[11:09] <intelikey> np icbu   welcome
[11:11] <intelikey> cricek if you dislike udev you can always disable it,  although that will require a reboot.   and you may find things that it did that you did like and will want back.
[11:11] <intelikey> udev is the reason the /dev/sd* files are not there....
[11:12] <cricek> intelikey, ok ...
[11:14] <xukun> anybody running user mode linux(uml)?
[11:14] <cricek> tnx intelikey
[11:14] <intelikey> cricek one other thing.  if you check /.dev/  there may be the device you are looking for there.  ubuntu mounted the real /dev on /.dev in 5.04  i don't know if that changed or not.
[11:15] <QQ_ghost> xukun: what's the url for uml?
[11:15] <zosologist> im a linux noob and i d/led ubuntu about 4 days ago, the amd 64 version, and i found out that making flash player amongst other programs work is a bitch so i decided to down grade to the 32 bit one and ive got a few questions
[11:15] <Mabus06> The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?
[11:15] <xukun> QQ_ghost, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
[11:16] <intelikey> i need to know that i guess.   would someone with a default breezy install do a ls /.dev  and see if the dir exists for me please.
[11:16] <intelikey> ?
[11:16] <cello_rasp> are the universe and multiverse repositories available on downloadable images in any form?
[11:16] <Mabus06> intelikey, no directory for that here
[11:16] <Lukian> intelikey: that returns nothing here
[11:16] <trevorv> whats the name of the package that contains tools like "make"? i dont seem to have it installed.
[11:16] <foxer> fgf
[11:16] <zosologist> nope
[11:16] <foxer> dfd
[11:16] <foxer> f
[11:16] <foxer> ff
[11:16] <intelikey> ok they did drop it then.
[11:17] <intelikey> thanks guys.
[11:17] <bluefrog-10> trevorv, build-essential
[11:17] <niffe> who wants to fix my wlan connection with vnc? :)
[11:17] <trevorv> bluefrog-10, thankyou :)
[11:17] <zosologist> im a linux noob and i was wondering if theres any difference in the console commands between kde and gnome?
[11:17] <Madpilot> zosologist: at the console level, no
[11:17] <intelikey> !b-e
[11:17] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[11:17] <bimberi> zosologist: none
[11:17] <Lukian> zosologist: you certainly are :D
[11:17] <Mabus06> The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?
[11:18] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all
[11:19] <zosologist> so kubuntu and ubuntu are vertually identical? minus the user interface of course
[11:19] <Pupeno> Is Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?
[11:19] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me with my keyboard issue? I tried resetting the keyboard shortcuts but no luck.
[11:19] <Pupeno> zosologist: yes.
[11:19] <intelikey> zosologist yep
[11:19] <FlannelKing> zosologist, and with the different interfaces comes a few different programs, but yeah, basically.
[11:20] <niffe> allways "no scan results" cant get this thing working!
[11:20] <Madpilot> zosologist: Ubuntu uses Gnome for the desktop; Kubuntu uses KDE
[11:20] <xiaogil> how to install ubuntu on a laptop on which the cd drive doesn't work anymore ?
[11:20] <Madpilot> zosologist: and you can use programs from one on the other easily
[11:20] <zosologist> lol how do i wisper, its been so long since irc
[11:20] <Mabus06> zosologist, /msg user message
[11:20] <jsz_> Lukian, do you go on austnet?
[11:21] <Pupeno> is there a more proper channel to ask question regardig Dapper's Linux ?
[11:22] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps ubuntu-motu if you canoot get an answer here
[11:22] <Pupeno> deFrysk: maybe, but it'll be off-topic there.
[11:22] <zosologist> does kubunu use synaptic?
[11:23] <deFrysk> zosologist, not by default
[11:23] <intelikey> yes
[11:23] <Pupeno> zosologist: it doesn't install it by default.
[11:23] <Mabus06> wow, people like answering zosologist...
[11:23] <Pupeno> apt-get install synaptic and voila!
[11:23] <deFrysk> zosologist, I think its wise to install it tho
[11:23] <intelikey> Mabus06 he asks the easy ones "_
[11:24] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps try here ?
[11:24] <zosologist> thats cause im awesome mabus06
[11:24] <Mabus06> no ideas about my keyboard problem, intelikey? I reset the keyboard shortcuts but previous and next track buttons stlil don't work anymore
[11:24] <Mabus06> pssst, zosologist, ask my question for me? ;)
[11:24] <Pupeno> deFrysk: I already did.
[11:24] <zosologist> ahhh lol those red things arent msg lol
[11:24] <zosologist> lol whats that mabus06
[11:25] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps try asking again ?
[11:25] <Pupeno> Mabus06: maybe if you tell us what do you mean by reseting...
[11:25] <Pupeno> Is Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?
[11:25] <albinoloverats> anyone think they might be able to help with an fstab problem?
[11:25] <QQ_ghost> xukun: wonder if you can use uml for lfs
[11:25] <intelikey> Mabus06 no sorry.
[11:25] <QQ_ghost> albinoloverats: sure
[11:25] <niffe> any ideas hot to get thatn wlan working?`tried wverything now, driver and hardware present, but still, no scan results
[11:25] <Mabus06> Pupeno, I mean, set the keyboard shortcut for track next to my track next button
[11:26] <ghuug> where I can get repo for 5.10 ?
[11:26] <ejofee> does anybody know any repo with no-arch debian / ubuntu packages of apps written for java?
[11:26] <maswan> is there a small asclock-like clock for the panel?
[11:26] <ghuug> I want to download mplayer and vlc
[11:26] <deFrysk> !info vlc
[11:26] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[11:26] <maswan> the standard clock isn't very convenient when you have a vertical panel
[11:26] <deFrysk> !info mplayer
[11:27] <deFrysk> !info mplayer-i586
[11:27] <zosologist> so... can i install synaptic throught kubuntu's packet manager
[11:27] <QQ_ghost> albinoloverats: what's your prob in fstab?
[11:27] <intelikey> zosologist yep
[11:27] <albinoloverats> QQ_ghost: i cant mount my cdrom, i get "wrong fs type, bad option.superblock on /dev/hdc"
[11:27] <zosologist> and is there a problem upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu? or should i just get the kubunt iso?
[11:27] <Pupeno> Mabus06: I don't use Gnome, so, I don't know. But what happened to me is that depending how you configure X some key works and other don't, that is because X does mapping from key codes to key names (like 0x53 to XFree86Next) but if the keyboard doesn't emit that keycode, that name would never be triggered.
[11:28] <funkyHat> zosologist, you can also quickly install it from the command line, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:28] <ghuug> it says couldnt find package mplayer
[11:28] <intelikey> albinoloverats not an audio cd is it ?
[11:28] <Pupeno> Mabus06: for the keyboard I have know I could not find a model on X that mapped all the keys correctly.
[11:28] <zosologist> cool
[11:28] <xukun> QQ_ghost, I think so. google for it
[11:28] <zosologist> thanks funkyHat
[11:28] <funkyHat> zosologist, you can easily have ubuntu and kubuntu running on the same system
[11:28] <albinoloverats> QQ_ghost: i deleted it a few days ago by accident, had to rewrite it but couldnt quite remember what the cd options were, i think theyre correct but it doesnt seem to work
[11:28] <zosologist> funkyHat, tripple boot? lol
[11:28] <QQ_ghost> albinoloverats: what's in your type field?
[11:28] <Mabus06> Pupeno, but when I clicked to set a new shortcut for track previous, and hit my track previous button, it looked like it worked. Does that say anything?
[11:29] <funkyHat> zosologist, lol, no, on the same linux installation
[11:29] <albinoloverats> QQ_ghost: iso9660,udf
[11:29] <zosologist> funkyHat: do tell? or point me at a link if its too long
[11:29] <funkyHat> zosologist, just make sure that the packages ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are installed
[11:29] <intelikey> albinoloverats show us (just) the cd line of your fstab file
[11:29] <Pupeno> Mabus06: yes, that would say the keyboard is properly configured and mapped... then it is something Gnome specific, that's out of my scope, sorry.
[11:29] <zosologist> funkyHat: how do i switch between?
[11:29] <funkyHat> zosologist, you can choose whether to run gnome or kde at the login screen, by clicking session
[11:30] <zosologist> funkyHat sweet thanks
[11:30] <QQ_ghost> albinoloverats: hmm,  could you paste that whole line?
[11:30] <albinoloverats> here it is: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom iso9660,udf auto,user,rw 0 0
[11:30] <zosologist> funkyHat: how hard is it to run kde bins on gnome and vice versa
[11:30] <dooglus> zosologist: "not at all"
[11:30] <intelikey> albinoloverats also try 'eject /dev/hdc '   and see if it spits the cd at you or not
[11:31] <albinoloverats> intelikey: yes it does
[11:31] <funkyHat> zosologist, there is no hard about it
[11:31] <intelikey> albinoloverats is that a burner ?
[11:31] <funkyHat> zosologist, they just run
[11:31] <QQ_ghost> albinoloverats: for starters, it should be "ro" instead of "rw"
[11:31] <zosologist> dooglus: so i shouldnt run into any conflictions if i boot up a kde program while accidentaly in gnome
[11:31] <albinoloverats> intelikey: yep, cdrw/dvdrom
[11:31] <dooglus> zosologist: the only problem is that GNOME apps and KDE apps use 2 completely different sets of libraries, so if you mix and match them you'll be using a lot more memory than if you stick to just one or the other
[11:32] <intelikey> QQ_ghost that's why i asked about the burner
[11:32] <zosologist> dooglus: ahhhhhh i knew there was a catch
[11:32] <dooglus> zosologist: no, people do it all the time.  amarok is a nice KDE music player that people use habitually in GNOME for instance
[11:32] <albinoloverats> sorry, i should have used cdrw instead
[11:32] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: i have a burner too, and it's still "ro"
[11:33] <intelikey> only other thing i know to try albinoloverats is maybe add defaults, before auto.
[11:33] <zosologist> dooglus: i essentually use double membory if i run both ehh?
[11:33] <dooglus> I've stopped using KDE and GNOME these last few days.  Haven't missed either of them yet (other than the CPU/network/swap meter thingy)
[11:33] <dooglus> zosologist: not double, but more, yes.
[11:33] <dooglus> zosologist: just try it.  if your system copes well, there's no problem
[11:33] <intelikey> QQ_ghost yes but i got a lesson on that the other day, some new drives can mount cdrw rw
[11:33] <n37> anyone knows hwere to download lamp? Oo
[11:33] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: hell, i still can't get the machine to blank a cdrw...
[11:34] <n37> need help :/
[11:34] <zosologist> dooglus: well i got 1gig of ram and 1gb of swapfile space i suspect ill be good
[11:34] <dooglus> zosologist: so long as you have a reasonable swap partition then all you'll notice is that there's a lot of disk activity going on when you switch between apps.
[11:34] <funkyHat> dooglus, xfce?
[11:34] <QQ_ghost> n37: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:34] <dooglus> zosologist: that's plenty.  I was mixing and matching the two with 350Mb or so of RAM
[11:34] <zosologist> dooglus: cool
[11:34] <dooglus> funkyHat: yes, at the moment.  I also tried ratpoison and ion[23] 
[11:34] <niffe> Ok, can someone connect to my laptop with realvnc, and fix my wlan connection? :)
[11:35] <n37> thx :>
[11:35] <funkyHat> dooglus, I tried ratpoison, for about 2 minutes.
[11:35] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: like the dvd-combo drives?
[11:35] <albinoloverats> when i try and mount it says "dmesg | tail", doing so it tells me "UDF-fs: No VRS found"
[11:35] <intelikey> if i had half a gig of ram i'd never use swap
[11:35] <dooglus> funkyHat: I really like GNU Screen.  ratpoison is like "screen for X Windows" - so it's a nice idea, but...
[11:35] <k31th> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl anyone having problems with this mirror ?
[11:35] <k31th> im trying to install freenx
[11:35] <funkyHat> dooglus, because someone told me it was like screen for X, so I installed it to check it out, discovered it had all the parts of screen I didn't need, and none of the parts I did
[11:36] <intelikey> QQ_ghost yeah, i don't remember the specs. but some of them can handel mounting cds like hds with full rw access
[11:36] <dooglus> funkyHat: ratpoison would suit me well if only it had a panel at the top with the time on it - and maybe a few graphs
[11:36] <zosologist> brb
[11:36] <dooglus> funkyHat: what parts of screen didn't it have?
[11:36] <dooglus> funkyHat: you mean like being able to detact and reattach?
[11:36] <funkyHat> dooglus, exactly that
[11:37] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: holy schnikies, i'm goin' googlin'...
[11:37] <funkyHat> it would be lovely to be able to detach apps from X before restarting it
[11:37] <Mabus06> How do you change what program your keyboard shortcuts work for (the media ones, specifically)
[11:37] <Pupeno> Does anybody remember the name of the channel about audio on Linux ?
[11:37] <dooglus> funkyHat: ion2 is a lot like ratpoison, but with tabs too
[11:38] <funkyHat> dooglus, but still no detactch/reattach :P
[11:38] <Mr_Milenko> [05:44]  <Fn~dooglus> funkyHat: ratpoison would suit me well if only it had a panel at the top with the time on it - and maybe a few graphs
[11:38] <n37> cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/
[11:38] <dooglus> funkyHat: maybe you would like to detach them before rebooting Linux as well?
[11:38] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[11:38] <n37> cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help?
[11:38] <Mr_Milenko> whats ... ratposion..
[11:38] <Fujoor> does anyhere here know any console email client like pine, that could handle gmail?
[11:38] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:38] <albinoloverats> it seems to be the cd, another cd works just fine
[11:38] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: it's a window manager.
[11:38] <funkyHat> dooglus, lol, in fact that's what I'm working on (using a separate machine + xmove)
[11:38] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: it's operated by the keyboard - you don't need the mouse - hence the name, I guess
[11:38] <Mr_Milenko> really
[11:39] <Mr_Milenko> does it look nice?
[11:39] <intelikey> Mabus06 i'm not sure what media keys are; i look down at these 101 keys and say "welp he's not talken' to me"  ;/
[11:39] <funkyHat> dooglus, I'm not getting anywhere at the moment though
[11:39] <xukun> isnt there realy free linux router simulation software ou there?
[11:39] <n37> cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help? :<<
[11:39] <Mr_Milenko> hah thats funny... ratpoison.. xfce has a rat on it
[11:39] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: it looks - invisible.  every window is full-screened - there's no icons, frames, nothing.
[11:39] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:39] <intelikey> Fujoor mut   Mail
[11:39] <Mabus06> intelikey, in the keyboard shortcuts menu there is a media subsection
[11:39] <Mr_Milenko> maybe the devs has a grudge against xfce :P
[11:39] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: I think it pre-dates xfce, but I'm not sure.
[11:40] <n37> cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help? :<<
[11:40] <Mabus06> intelikey, the keys seem to work, but my guess is they're not sending that signal to the program I want (rhythmbox)
[11:40] <n37> ://
[11:40] <funkyHat> In that case maybe the devs of xfce are masochists
[11:40] <intelikey> Mabus06 on ubuntu of course................
[11:40] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: apparently ratpoison was invented by some stoned programmers who found that having to reach for the mouse was too distracting
[11:40] <funkyHat> hahaha
[11:40] <Mabus06> intelikey, yes, on ubuntu..
[11:41] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:41] <dooglus> Mr_Milenko: read all about it, it's quite funny: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/inspiration.html
[11:41] <Mr_Milenko> more like a GUI for the console gurus at heart
[11:41] <n37> need some <3 help
[11:41] <Mr_Milenko> you need love help?
[11:41] <Mr_Milenko> dude.. go to offtopic..
[11:41] <n37> #care
[11:41] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:42] <n37> ur not 1337 so.. then stfu
[11:42] <intelikey> !info php4
[11:42] <n37> :>
[11:42] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[11:42] <Mr_Milenko> excuse me?
[11:42] <n37> nope thx
[11:42] <n37> inteli u know how to install it?
[11:42] <Mr_Milenko> i didnt say anything bad about you.. and you tell me to stfu?
[11:42] <n37> im getting an error msg
[11:42] <Mr_Milenko> fuck you
[11:42] <intelikey> n37 what error you get ?
[11:42] <n37> kthxb
[11:42] <n37> :P
[11:43] <Mabus06> relax, Mr_Milenko and n37
[11:43] <n37> w8
[11:43] <n37> cannot find packet
[11:43] <intelikey> boys be heave!
[11:43] <n37> ive got in spanish
[11:43] <n37> :/
[11:43] <intelikey> !repos
[11:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:43] <Mr_Milenko> thats messed up.. i didnt say anything bad to him and he starts talkin crap..
[11:43] <intelikey> it's in universe n37 setup your repos
[11:44] <n37> how :/ im new to lnx
[11:44] <funkyHat> dooglus, I think the reason he had concentration blocks wasn't that he was mashed... it's because he's an emacs user
[11:44] <intelikey> the link above ^
[11:44] <Mr_Milenko> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <n37> rofl :>
[11:44] <Mr_Milenko> uncomment universe repositories
[11:44] <n37> thx i'll try ^
[11:45] <intelikey> n37 there is also  #ubuntu-es if you need spanish
[11:45] <n37> rofl
[11:46] <n37> i think it will be best :D
[11:46] <n37> thx anywayz 4 help <3:>
[11:46] <intelikey>  k
[11:46] <zosologist> hmmm does synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list
[11:47] <zool2005> does anyone use skype and do you find it loads extremely slowly?
[11:47] <Fujoor> is there any command equalent to ipconfig in windows? just so you can see your own ip number?
[11:47] <funkyHat> zool2005, yes, yes
[11:47] <zool2005> funkyHat : have you found a solution to make it load faster?
[11:47] <syklitengutt> anyone who can help me with finding and installing Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory
[11:47] <zosologist> Fujoor: ifconfig i believe, dont quote me on that tho
[11:47] <intelikey> ifconfig
[11:47] <funkyHat> zool2005, well, more that it connects and logs in slowly, it seems to load quickly enough
[11:48] <Fujoor> zoso: thanks ill try it, i only new iwconfig )
[11:48] <Frafra> hi all
[11:48] <pixelfairy> there a good repository for newer alsa?
[11:48] <Raskall> I must be missing something. I have an nvidia graphics card. When I install nvidia's drivers it works correctly. But when I boot X wont start and I have to go through the nvidia install routine to get things working again.
[11:48] <Frafra> how can i change the root directory of apache from /var/www to another one?
[11:48] <soundray> ifconfig apparently is deprecated. Use 'ip link'
[11:48] <zool2005> funkyHat : it doesn't take too long to connect but takes 30s to appear on a 2.4G system
[11:48] <Fujoor> soundray: iplink?
[11:49] <zosologist> hmmm does synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list
[11:49] <soundray> Fujoor, no 'ip link'
[11:49] <funkyHat> zool2005, acutally yeah you're right, it does take a long time to appear, I had forgotten :P
[11:49] <intelikey> alsa installs by default pixelfairy, what are you trying to do ?
[11:49] <funkyHat> hmm
[11:49] <Fujoor> soundray: neither of them told me what my ip number is
[11:50] <zool2005> funkyHat :  do yo have to restart skype after each call?
[11:50] <funkyHat> zool2005, no
[11:50] <QQ_ghost> Fujoor: look in the second lin down in the output
[11:50] <zosologist> ifconfig tells me mine
[11:50] <funkyHat> zool2005, I've heard a lot of complaints about that though. I think the reason that I don't is that I use a separate soundcard for Skype/Gizmo
[11:50] <intelikey> ifconfig telle me mine tooo
[11:50] <zool2005> funkyHat, ah
[11:51] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: mine is 127.0.0.1
[11:51] <funkyHat> zool2005, and I've configured esd to leave that card alone (would be nice if I could just scrap esd all together)
[11:51] <zosologist> QQ_ghost uhh thanks ill write that down?
[11:51] <intelikey> hehhe no the inet one
[11:51] <soundray> Fujoor, try 'ip address'
[11:51] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: lol
[11:51] <intelikey> lol
[11:51] <funkyHat> lol
[11:51] <syklitengutt> anyone who can help me getting Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory... Need it to install dvdrip
[11:51] <zool2005> funkyHat : what card have you have?
[11:51] <zosologist> does synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list
[11:52] <deFrysk> zosologist, the .debs do that
[11:52] <zosologist> deFrysk: greek to me, im a linux noob
[11:52] <funkyHat> zool2005, NVidia Nforce 2, and SB Audigy LS. The audigy is the one I use for SIP/Skype
[11:53] <deFrysk> zosologist, the .debs or packages are set up to be added to the menus or not
[11:53] <intelikey> zosologist that is not a function  of the installer.  and yes apps added via apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/kde's package manager should always be added to the menu in kde if they are gui exec
[11:53] <zosologist> thank you both
[11:53] <zool2005> funkyHat : cheers
[11:54] <namaste> hi, i'm looking for font "lucida sans" - where could i find it?
[11:54] <zosologist> one more question, i wont have any problems running i386 ubuntu on an amd64 right?
[11:54] <soundray> zosologist, no.
[11:54] <intelikey> should not.
[11:54] <soundray> zosologist, in fact, you'll have more problems if you run amd64 ubuntu on amd64 (like me) :)
[11:54] <QQ_ghost> i'm NOT impressed by "ip link", ifconfig should stay as "the cool thing"
[11:55] <intelikey> i don't have a k7 so i cant say for sure on that
[11:55] <syklitengutt> namaste, google it download it and install it by system userchoise types
[11:55] <Ng> QQ_ghost: look at the ip man page - it does an awful lot more than ifconfig :)
[11:55] <soundray> QQ_ghost, I don't know where this deprecation comes from anyway.
[11:55] <zosologist> soundray: lol thats what im doing and im fed up with trying to get flash to work
[11:55] <syklitengutt> anyone who can help me getting Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory... Need it to install dvdrip
[11:55] <zosologist> soundray: so i make the switch
[11:56] <intelikey> soundray the developer/s
[11:56] <Ng> zosologist: the i386 version will run perfectly
[11:56] <soundray> QQ_ghost, apparently ip works on more platforms.
[11:56] <zosologist> Ng: good to know
[11:56] <vir> does anyone know where i could find the commands for a tape drive i can only remember a mt commands and i need to copy off my backups ?
[11:56] <QQ_ghost> soundray: but ifconfig doesn't?
[11:56] <n37> blah #ubuntu-es sux
[11:56] <n37> :S
[11:57] <soundray> zosologist, if you like the speed of amd64, you can set up a chroot environment for the few programs that need 32 bit.
[11:57] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: 32bit, like wine...
[11:58] <soundray> QQ_ghost, let me just go back to where I got this from...
[11:58] <intelikey> it's basicly if the developer/s don't want to work on it anymore then it is deprecated.  nothing anyone else can do about it.   could always take over the project when they drop it i guess....
[11:58] <zosologist> soundray: i thought about that, how hard is that, and is there any trouble with running 2 different versions of mozilla firefox?
[11:58] <zosologist> QQ_ghost: thats the other half of the reason im switching no wine
[11:59] <zosologist> soundray: and really how much slower is the i386 version, never had a side by side comparison
[12:00] <intelikey> mtr ?
[12:01] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: i myself am still trying to get a friend to make the comparison for me... but he's sqirrel bait...
[12:01] <zosologist> QQ_ghost: lol
[12:01] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: he hasn't even tried the live cd...
[12:01] <soundray> QQ_ghost, sorry, I can't back it up right now.
[12:02] <mcphail> zosologist: 64 bit ubuntu is for people who miss the "good ol' days" when everything didn't "just work". I'm one of those people.
[12:02] <soundray> QQ_ghost, I mean what I said about ip working on more platforms.
[12:02] <QQ_ghost> soundray: it's ok, i'm looking at the man page...
[12:03] <QQ_ghost> i had a prog on windows that would tell me the city of an ip addy, is there one for linux?
[12:03] <soundray> mcphail, zosologist: 64bit is great for number crunching. I have a program that runs six times faster on a 2GHz Athlon64 than on a 3GHz Xeon.
[12:03] <intelikey> whois
[12:04] <intelikey> QQ_ghost whois
[12:04] <mcphail> soundray: i'm hoping to get cinelerra to compile on 64 bit one day to give it a shot
[12:04] <funkyHat> mcphail, enough things break in ubuntu i386 *cough*SOUND*cough*
[12:04] <Ng> get a decent soundcard ;)
[12:04] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: like, "whois 220.247.228.54"?
[12:04] <intelikey> yep
[12:05] <funkyHat> Ng, I have 2 decent soundcards, which esd still manages to lock up whenever it's running
[12:05] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: k00l
[12:05] <mcphail> funkyHat: everything which breaks in i386 also breaks in amd64 !
[12:05] <funkyHat> mcphail, yay!
[12:05] <funkyHat> :P
[12:05] <intelikey> bwwhois also QQ_ghost    i think it's bw
[12:05] <QQ_ghost> mcphail: consistancy counts!
[12:05] <Ng> funkyHat: I have one soundblaster live and it has always worked fine and does hardware mixing, so no esd is required (that is what makes it decent)
[12:05] <zosologist> soundray: dont do too much number crunching over here the odd bit of video conversion every now and again but thats about it
[12:06] <funkyHat> Ng, I have alsa doing mixing... I haven't managed to disable esd completely though!
[12:06] <soundray> mcphail, do you use cinelerra on 32?
[12:06] <mcphail> soundray: i tried it about 6 months ago
[12:06] <funkyHat> Ng, I have hardware mixing on one of my cards as well, anyway, but still the problem with esd. I just want it to DIE
[12:07] <funkyHat> And stop haunting me :(
[12:07] <mcphail> soundray: my system specs weren't very good then
[12:07] <soundray> mcphail, do you do video editing at the moment?
[12:07] <Ng> funkyHat: System->Preferences->Sound, untick the sound server startup and esd won't get started when you log in anymore
[12:07] <funkyHat> Ng, I want gnome sounds to work
[12:07] <mcphail> soundray: cat mpg.1 mpg.2 > mpg.3 !
[12:08] <soundray> zosologist, I have some tasks that take 24 hours on a Xeon -- the difference makes a difference there...
[12:08] <Ng> funkyHat: I really can't stand applications making noise when I click on them, so I would have disabled that anyway. Nevermind, it'll be sorted in dapper probaby
[12:08] <soundray> mcphail, :)  Does that work?
[12:08] <mcphail> soundray: yes
[12:08] <soundray> mcphail, I know it does with vdr's avis.
[12:08] <zosologist> soundray: lol well i should be fine then
[12:08] <funkyHat> Ng, I have most of the sounds disabled, but there are some that I really want to be there :P
[12:09] <zosologist> whats the best way to burn an iso in linux, last question before reinstall
[12:09] <mcphail> soundray: wmv doesn't work, but i can't watch them on amd64 anyway ;p
[12:10] <Ng> zosologist: you can right click on it in nautilus and burn it with that
[12:10] <zosologist> Ng: thanks
[12:11] <intelikey> zosologist some would say k3b   others may tell you xcdroast  while still others may say cdrecord (cli)
[12:11] <zosologist>  write to disc i would assume?
[12:11] <tRSS> Hey guys...quick question: I am trying to set up my Plantronics USB headset to work with xmms in breezy, but xmms won't play the music through my USB headset
[12:11] <Ng> zosologist: yes
[12:11] <mcphail> kestas: i use vmware. media player runs quite slowly on qemu
[12:12] <kestas> mcphail, but vmware only virtualises doesnt it? can you use ia32 in vmware on amd64?
[12:12] <zosologist> Ng: ok I suspected that would be the way to do it, just didnt want a cd with only a .iso image on it
[12:12] <Ng> kestas: an amd64 chip still has the ia32 instructions, and you can run 32bit code even if the kernel is 64bit
[12:12] <mcphail> kestas: the latest version builds 64 bit kernel modules. It is excellent. You can have 32 or 64 bit guests
[12:13] <soundray> zosologist, you'd have trouble booting that :)
[12:13] <Ng> kestas: you could just install mplayer in a 32bit chroot
[12:13] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: that's why god made cd-rw's...
[12:13] <zosologist> soundray QQ_ghost: indeed and im down to 2 blank cds
[12:13] <kestas> Ng, hmm I see, I thought it was like XD you could enable ia32 at boot time only
[12:13] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: (for testing writes)
[12:13] <Ng> kestas: nope :)
[12:13] <zosologist> QQ_ghost im to cheep i go for the good ole 100 pack of cd-r's
[12:14] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: whitch is a 75-pack of coasters?
[12:14] <ejofee> where do i find the repos for dapper?
[12:14] <zosologist> QQ_ghost: tu che
[12:14] <zosologist> or however you spell it
[12:14] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: got over 300 of them myself...
[12:15] <apokryphos> ejofee: I'm sure if you looked at your sources.list you'd be able to figure it out ;-)
[12:15] <zosologist> well ill be back shortly, bout to install i386
[12:15] <Ng> ejofee: don't run dapper ;)
[12:15] <soundray> ejofee, if you have to ask how to use dapper...
[12:15] <Ng> yeah
[12:16] <QQ_ghost> zosologist: did you back up your home directory?
[12:16] <QQ_ghost> sh*t, too late...
[12:16] <soundray> QQ_ghost, lets hope he has...
[12:16] <soundray> *let's
[12:16] <QQ_ghost> soundray: made that mistake 'bout three weeks ago...
[12:16] <flames> which repository need for this? (breezy) sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[12:17] <apokryphos> !tell flames about dvd
[12:17] <tRSS> how can I make xmms to play music through my USB headset. other sounds are coming through the USB headset, but no music from xmms?!
[12:17] <ejofee> :)
[12:17] <ejofee> thanks folks
[12:18] <flames> thx
[12:19] <tRSS> :( no help!?
[12:20] <ctr> tRSS, I suspect you need to change the output channel in the oss or whatever plugin
[12:21] <tRSS> ctr: I did that, but it still doesn't work. I am not sure, what I am missing
[12:21] <ctr> No idea then, sorry :(
[12:21] <quacker> I'
[12:21] <quacker> I
[12:21] <Sgt> g'day everyone!   Please help me setting up my swap partition.  I am not how sure to label it.
[12:22] <quacker> I've jsut lost kpanel; how do I get it back, odes it have an executeable I can run?
[12:22] <Seveas> Sgt, no label :)
[12:22] <tRSS> ctr: thanks for trying though :)
[12:22] <apokryphos> Sgt: no mount point, just sw as an option and the type is of course "swap"
[12:23] <Sgt> cool in my partition definition area.  I defined two as primary
[12:23] <Seveas> This is my swap:
[12:23] <Seveas> /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:23] <apokryphos> Sgt: we're talking about the entry in /etc/fstab
[12:23] <Ng> ctr: boo :)
[12:24] <mcphail> Seveas: Sgt: 0x82 (or is it 83?)
[12:24] <Sgt> I see. sw is a swap option
[12:24] <Seveas> 82
[12:24] <intelikey> /.swap none swap sw 0 0
[12:24] <Seveas> 83 is "Linux"
[12:24] <kestas> 83 is swap
[12:24] <kestas> oh
[12:24] <Sgt> not sure 82 or 83
[12:24] <Seveas> 82 is swap
[12:25] <intelikey> 82
[12:25] <ctr> Ng, I can't go anywhere with out you sitting there watching can I ?
[12:25] <Seveas> at least, that's what cfdisk tells me :)
[12:25] <ctr> Ng, got any exeprience with pgsql ?
[12:25] <Sgt> I am just beginning again.
[12:25] <kestas> cfdisk lies
[12:25] <Ng> ctr: it either means I'm omnipresent, or have good taste ;)
[12:25] <Ng> ctr: 'fraid not
[12:25] <ctr> bugger
[12:26] <Sgt> let me look at the install program again. its on my other computer.
[12:27] <ctr> Ng, thought I'd run the gauntlet and install dapper on my ibook
[12:27] <ctr> well,upgrade to it
[12:27] <Ng> ctr: madness ;)
[12:27] <ctr> 959 or so packages to be upgraded
[12:27] <alexissoft> hi
[12:28] <Ng> ctr: expect some breakage
[12:28] <ctr> Ng, yip :)
[12:28] <Sgt> I found it.  Thanks everyone.!!!
[12:28] <oli_vert> if i've got to install ubuntu on 10 or so boxes, whats the easiest way of doing identical installs?
[12:29] <mcphail> oli_vert: identical boxes?
[12:29] <oli_vert> mcphail, yeah
[12:29] <mcphail> oli_vert: dd
[12:29] <oli_vert> mcphail, i've heard thats painfully slow though?
[12:30] <intelikey> hmm what is the keyboard device ?
[12:30] <intelikey> anyone know ?
[12:30] <mcphail> oli_vert: about 30 mins for decent size hd
[12:31] <oli_vert> does that do partitioning etc? or do i have to manually partition the machines?
[12:31] <mcphail> oli_vert: the problem is you also transfer "empty" disk space which wastes time, but is still fater than most networks
[12:31] <kimo> Any suggestions for getting Nautilus to burn CDs? It just keeps on prompting me to insert a blank CD, despite there already being one in there.
[12:31] <mcphail> oli_vert: the partition tables will be copied exactly
[12:32] <Sgt> @Seveas Thanks Mate.
[12:32] <kimo> sudo cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 works fine, but isn't as user friendly.
[12:33] <intelikey> oli_vert it depends on if you dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1  or dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[12:34] <mcphail> oli_vert: yes, you must copy the whole drive
[12:34] <oli_vert> i see
[12:34] <oli_vert> thanks
[12:35] <intelikey> you could set up a single partition copy that would save a lot of time ^(fi8rst example)  but would require partitioning
[12:36] <intelikey> and a boot loader install of course ^
[12:36] <m8> hi, I've installed multimedia codecs but still I get this type of error in Totem: 'Could not open resource for writing.' anyone can point me what am I doing wrong?
[12:39] <intelikey> kimo make a link if it is not there.   sudo ln -s /dev/hd? /dev/cdrom   <-- assuming ide  and not knowing the cable/jumper setting
[12:40] <intelikey> where hd?  is maybe hdc   or something    a b c d
[12:41] <pa_l> hi i have problems with apt-get. some dependency error always occur no matter what i try to install postfix
[12:41] <pa_l>  mailx
[12:41] <pa_l>  mutt
[12:41] <pa_l>  lsb-core
[12:41] <pa_l>  lsb-graphics
[12:41] <pa_l>  lsb-cxx
[12:41] <pa_l>  lsb
[12:41] <pa_l> 
[12:42] <pa_l> i tryed to apt-get install one by one but couldnt succeed
[12:43] <intelikey> i think there is a switch that might streighten that out   apt-get -fix<something>    you'll have to look it up.    man apt-get
[12:44] <pa_l> can someone please explain what this means W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fBreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:44] <pa_l> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fBreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:45] <Astxist> pa_l, don't paste here
[12:45] <pa_l> sorry Astxist
[12:45] <aeon17x> !w32codecs
[12:45] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:45] <Astxist> pa_l, and fix it with sudo apt-get update
[12:45] <xiaogil> How to record on the hard drive the sound : rtsp://son.radio-france.fr/chaines/france-inter/chroniques/rey/rey_211205.ra
[12:45] <pa_l> Astxist i have already tried that
[12:45] <Astxist> pa_l, heh np just letting you know before more scary ppl tell you ^_^
[12:46] <Astxist> hmm
[12:46] <intelikey> pa_l i'd say your sources list is hosed   there is no breezy hedghog   and breezy is 5.10
[12:46] <Sgt> cheers, thanks again!!
[12:46] <intelikey> 5.04 is hoary hedghog pa_l
[12:47] <pa_l> yes somone told me to change out sources.list all occurence of hoary with breezy
[12:47] <sayan> Hi All !!
[12:47] <sayan> Greeting to all
[12:47] <lampshade> hi sayan
[12:47] <intelikey> !repos
[12:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:47] <sayan> yes lampshade
[12:48] <sayan> I am new in this irc
[12:48] <pa_l> intelikey i need source.list for breezy where can i get one?
[12:48] <Astxist> pa_l, if you're using breezy I can send you my orginal sources.list file
[12:48] <intelikey> pa_l  go there ^  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325  and make a new /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <pa_l> yes Astxist iam using breezy
[12:50] <intelikey> Astxist did ya send him one ?
[12:50] <pa_l> sorry i closed wrong window could you please give me the url again
[12:50] <kimo> intelikey /dev/cdrom used to point to hdc (cd reader). I've changed it to point to hdd (cd writer) but it is still compaining: "Insert a rewritabel or blank disc ..."
[12:51] <pa_l> Astxist could you please send again
[12:51] <Astxist> intelikey, he quit :/
[12:51] <Astxist> oh I'll send it pa_l
[12:51] <pa_l> thanks (:
[12:51] <Astxist> just need to change the au bits to your region
[12:51] <Blues-Man> hi all
[12:51] <Garda> how many, mabey as a percentage, do unbuntu packages change between releases
[12:51] <intelikey> kimo idk are you sure the disk in the drive is blank and not a frisby ?
[12:52] <Blues-Man> is there in Gnome something like Kppp for Kde? I mean something that looks almost the same
[12:52] <graabein> how do i find out what wireless driver i am using? madwifi, ndiswrapper...
[12:53] <b91048> hi everyone
[12:53] <intelikey> well sort of Blues-Man gnome-connect or something like that
[12:53] <graabein> yo!
[12:53] <Astxist> pa_l, all done :)
[12:53] <pa_l> ok Astxist i should change it to sources.list right?
[12:53] <Blues-Man> and something like kdebluetooth?
[12:54] <intelikey> pa_l /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <DragoraN> hi, iam running 64bit Ubuntu on my Amilo A7645 notebook, i have problems with my PCMCIA slot, its nor recognized, can someone help me?
[12:54] <Astxist> pa_l, yes and edit it to change the au parts to your country
[12:54] <pa_l> ok
[12:54] <Astxist> and save a backup this time :)
[12:55] <intelikey> the backup is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[12:57] <kimo> intelikey I've tried several disks, and it keeps on prompting me to insert a blank. cdrecord -dummy will write to it fine.
[12:57] <Blues-Man> intelikey, I can't find gnome-connect in apt-cache
[12:58] <DragoraN> some someone help?
[12:58] <intelikey> idk kimo with nothing more to go on and the limited knowledge i have.... sorry.
[12:58] <Astxist> DragoraN, just ask and we'll answer if we can
[12:59] <DragoraN> Astxist: i asked :( i mad of that, if dont know, just tell dont know and dont leave me waiting
[12:59] <Astxist> DragoraN, sorry I must've missed it
[12:59] <zosologist> woo i made it back
[12:59] <DragoraN> Astxist: np
[01:00] <Astxist> DragoraN, I read it unfortunatly I have no idea on how to help
[01:00] <DragoraN> ok
[01:00] <mjr> 35
[01:00] <kimo> intelikey Thanks for your suggestion anway.
[01:01] <ChrisBradley> Anyone know how to make gnome fill in the Applications menu?
[01:01] <intelikey> Blues-Man i thought it was called gnome-connect  or maybe g-connect  it's been a while sense if seen it or even used gnome.  but there is a dialer like kppp  maybe it was gnome-dial   na that dont sound right.
[01:01] <salomon> hi
[01:01] <ChrisBradley> using 5.04 ubuntu
[01:02] <salomon> i've installed a new 3com network crad
[01:02] <salomon> how can i configure it now ?
[01:02] <salomon> i'm not using any
[01:02] <FaithX> Hey what's the deal with ubuntu being such a resource pig when running mplayer??? is it xorg that it guilty... I was runnig sarge before and I could watch things fine... now they are all jerky
[01:02] <__filip_> What should i add in /boot/grub/menu.lst if i whant windows xp ?
[01:03] <ktogias> salomon, The network card is PCI ?
[01:03] <salomon> yes
[01:03] <Astxist> salomon, system -> Admin -> Network Settings should get you somewhere :)
[01:03] <salomon> i dont use gnome
[01:03] <salomon> i dont use any graphical system
[01:03] <salomon> its a server
[01:03] <Astxist> sorry Networking
[01:03] <FaithX> wassup salomon ?
[01:03] <Astxist> salomon, oh I have no idea how to do if from the cmdline sorry
[01:03] <FaithX> I missed it
[01:04] <salomon> mh
[01:04] <john_who> my epson usb printer is not detected automagically by ubuntu. i'm stuck, what can i do?
[01:04] <intelikey> salomon is that wireless ?
[01:04] <salomon> no
[01:04] <salomon> normal ethernet lan card
[01:04] <FaithX> john_who: look at syslog and see what it tells you
[01:04] <zosologist> whats the best sound system to use
[01:04] <zosologist> alsa?
[01:04] <intelikey> see if a module is installed for it salomon   lsmod | grep 3com
[01:05] <mcphail> salomon: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <salomon> i'll try
[01:05] <salomon> brb
[01:06] <john_who> FaithX, from syslog it looks like printer is recognized, usblp is loaded ecc
[01:06] <mcphail> salomon: man interfaces
[01:06] <FaithX> john_who: so you need to configure cups or whatever you are using
[01:06] <john_who> still no detection from the "add a printer" thing
[01:06] <FaithX> ?
[01:06] <FaithX> It doesn't "detect" as such
[01:06] <zosologist> anyone please suggest a sound system to me? esd occ alsa???
[01:07] <FaithX> alsa
[01:07] <zosologist> k
[01:07] <ejofee> zosologist: alsa
[01:07] <FaithX> esd is not a sound system
[01:07] <ejofee> zosologist: by all means.
[01:07] <zosologist> now.... to make it work
[01:07] <intelikey> salomon on a server mouse copy and paste is made easy with gpm
[01:07] <ejofee> zosologist: install it.
[01:07] <intelikey> alsa = advanced linux sound arch.
[01:07] <Blues-Man> intelikey, got it : gnome-ppp tnx :)
[01:08] <salomon> mh
[01:08] <FaithX> john_who: when you add printer chose the usb port for the connection] 
[01:08] <zosologist> ejofee:says they are installed in synaptic anyway
[01:08] <intelikey> hehhe that's to simple Blues-Man lol no wonder i couldn't remember it.
[01:08] <salomon> how i can i reload my network configartion now ?
[01:08] <john_who> FaithX, i see. lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer
[01:09] <FaithX> zosologist: what sound card do you have
[01:09] <Blues-Man> :)
[01:09] <mcphail> salomon: ifup <interfacename>
[01:09] <salomon> thx
[01:09] <dave> hi
[01:09] <Kim_> Good morning, class. Can one safely assume that xserver-xorg-core in dapper is practically 7.0(-rc<something>)?
[01:09] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init/net restart
[01:09] <lowman> g'mornin this mornin ;)
[01:09] <john_who> FaithX, so which is the right port? #1 #2 ...?
[01:09] <intelikey> oops init.d
[01:09] <salomon> thanx
[01:09] <salomon> it works
[01:09] <FaithX> #1 I guess... if not #2 :)
[01:09] <zosologist> FaithX: soundblaster audigy ls
[01:10] <FaithX> zosologist: ah
[01:10] <FaithX> zosologist: depends on which model I think
[01:10] <zosologist> FaithX: wait its just the imput thats not working
[01:11] <zosologist> FaithX: the output works
[01:11] <intelikey> so does anyone know what /dev/* is  at keyboard ?
[01:11] <dave> does sombody know why gtkgnutella says that I`am behind a firewall?
[01:12] <intelikey> dave iptables running maybe.
[01:12] <FaithX>  zosologist have a look at alsamixer at the command line
[01:12] <ktogias> dave, maybe beacause it is behind a firewall....
[01:12] <zosologist> anyone know why testing the imput on my alsa would crash the system chooser
[01:12] <dave> is this normal after fresh installation?
[01:13] <dave> ok have a look
[01:13] <FaithX> because the system chooser is probably using esd...
[01:13] <FaithX> I turn off esd often as not
[01:13] <FaithX> but noone answers my questions :-|
[01:14] <FaithX> Hey what's the deal with ubuntu being such a resource pig when running mplayer??? is it xorg that it guilty... I was runnig sarge before and I could watch things fine... now they are all jerky
[01:14] <mcphail> FaithX: dma enabled?
[01:14] <FaithX> ?
[01:14] <intelikey> mine either FaithX ....
[01:14] <lowman> FaithX: enable dma
[01:15] <intelikey> so does anyone know what /dev/* is an AT keyboard ?
[01:15] <FaithX> That's news to me...
[01:15] <lowman> had that last week..oi vay! :P
[01:15] <FaithX> dma for what?
[01:15] <FaithX> hdd or???
[01:15] <FaithX> or for mplayer?
[01:15] <mcphail> FaithX: hdd
[01:16] <lowman> FaithX: gimme a second I am finding it for you :)
[01:16] <ktogias> I have never managed to work with the ubuntu mplayer packages... It wouldn't become fullscreen, it would be slow... I always download and compile the latest source from mplayerhq.hu ...
[01:16] <bachstudies> question about ClamAV: why does ubuntu 5.10 say that I have version 0.87.1 installed but freshclam clearly shows I only have 0.87? I have tried completely uninstalling etc but I still have the same problem. Suggestions?
[01:16] <mcphail> FaithX: hdparm <device> should tell you if it is enabled
[01:16] <mcphail> bachstudies: i'd ignore it. 0.87 works fine anyway
[01:17] <Kim_> Well, thanks for your help ;)
[01:18] <lowman> FaithX: you can turn DMA on in your /etc/hdparm.conf it is at the bottom commented out
[01:18] <FaithX>  mcphail but mplayer has nought to do with my hdd... but just to amuse you I will look
[01:18] <bachstudies> mcphail, so would you say it is an ubuntu problem rather than a clamAV one?
[01:19] <lowman> I thought the samething you did FaithX but when I enabled it all was well...go figgy *shrugs*
[01:19] <intelikey> E: /dev/sd not supported by hdparm
[01:19] <mcphail> FaithX: your hdd or your dvd drive
[01:19] <EvilGuru> is there an official breezy backports project yet?
[01:20] <FaithX> I don't use hdd or dvd for mplayer... network only
[01:20] <mcphail> FaithX: then dma won't help!
[01:21] <FaithX> anyhow.... without adjusting hdparm.conf dma is on
[01:21] <lowman> FaithX: well that is diffy..dunno! *shrugs*
[01:21] <mcphail> bachstudies: i don't think it's a problem at all
[01:22] <EvilGuru> breezy backports anyone?
[01:22] <FaithX> bachstudies: why is that a problem
[01:22] <bachstudies> mcphail, it just looks to me like the deb package has been wrongly labelled 0.87.1
[01:23] <mcphail> FaithX: aren't there different builds with different compiler switches? Pick one with full mmx support?
[01:23] <FaithX> mcphail: will look
[01:24] <bachstudies> FaithX, it is a problem because clamAV keeps telling me my software is out of date!
[01:24] <FaithX> but I am sure that I chose mplayer-586 which I thought would have had the right goods.... I was more thinking that it was an xorg thing.
[01:24] <mcphail> bachstudies: ok. point taken.
[01:25] <lowman> bachstudies: mine too :p~~~
[01:25] <mcphail> FaithX: does "top" suggest that xorg is hogging cpu cycles?
[01:26] <FaithX> bachstudies: but that may have nothing to do with the packages as much with the fact that freshclam is told the latest version from the clam server... not deb packages
[01:26] <mcphail> bachstudies: honestly, i'd ignore the warnings regarding a minor version number. It still updates definitions ok
[01:26] <lowman> really mcphail?
[01:27] <lowman> coolies i thought it was broken or something
[01:27] <mcphail> lowman: working fine here
[01:28] <mcphail> lowman: picking up the same nasties as avg in windows
[01:28] <lowman> mcphail: great :p~~~
[01:30] <bachstudies> mcphail, I completely agree. I'm just trying to get my Ubuntu desktop as perfect as possible.
[01:34] <_fredforfaen> !java
[01:34] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:35] <wouaren> !flash
[01:35] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:35] <wouaren> !freeflash
[01:35] <ubotu> wouaren: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:36] <Talisker> Hi
[01:36] <Talisker> I'm trying to use autoreconf, and I get this error message:
[01:36] <Talisker> Can't exec "aclocal": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 176.
[01:36] <Talisker> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 176.
[01:36] <Talisker> Can't exec "automake": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 177.
[01:36] <Talisker> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 177.
[01:36] <zosologist> how do i change the default program a file opens with
[01:38] <zosologist> anyone?
[01:38] <zosologist> dead in here?
[01:38] <bDerrly> what file type are you trying to associate with what program?
[01:38] <zosologist> .ogg
[01:38] <zosologist> with uh hold on
[01:39] <claes> zosologist, in gnome right click the file and choose properties then check the "open with" tab.
[01:39] <__filip_> What should i add in /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot Windows XP, i have Windows XP installed on my hda1
[01:39] <miki> hi, where I can get ncurses-devel?
[01:40] <zosologist> Bderrly: .ogg with amarok
[01:40] <miki> I can't find it through apt-cache search
[01:40] <bDerrly> miki, apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[01:40] <bDerrly> zosologist, look at what claes wrote above
[01:40] <bDerrly> or are you in kde?
[01:41] <miki> bDerrly: where aren't such ;/
[01:41] <bDerrly> i just saw it with apt-cache
[01:41] <zosologist> claes: thanks
[01:42] <claes> zosologist, Glad I could help.
[01:42] <pa_l> how do i change the au for mye region in the sources.list?
[01:42] <miki> miki@m1:/$ sudo apt-cache search ncurses
[01:42] <miki> evms-ncurses - Enterprise Volume Management System (ncurses UI)
[01:42] <miki> mtr-tiny - Full screen ncurses traceroute tool
[01:42] <miki> libncurses5 - Shared libraries for terminal handling
[01:42] <miki> libncursesw5 - Shared libraries for terminal handling (wide character support)
[01:42] <miki> ncurses-base - Descriptions of common terminal types
[01:42] <miki> ncurses-bin - Terminal-related programs and man pages
[01:42] <miki> ncurses-term - Additional terminal type definitions
[01:42] <miki> whiptail - Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts
[01:42] <miki> procps - /proc file system utilities
[01:42] <miki> maybe i'm blind
[01:42] <bDerrly> miki, don't paste
[01:43] <bDerrly> do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?
[01:44] <kostaorl> 10.0.0.1
[01:45] <bDerrly> kostaorl, is that supposed to mean something?
[01:45] <FaithX> mcphail: xorg is hogging badly... basically takes all it can get about 75% cpu or more
[01:46] <claes> Anyone familliar with the lsb in ubuntu?
[01:46] <miki> bDerrly, ok, works, thx
[01:46] <bDerrly> miki, np
[01:48] <FaithX> anyone running drbd?
[01:49] <ugenn> anyone running xorg 7?
[01:49] <claes> ugenn, 6.99.99.904 (7.0.0 RC 4) in dapper
[01:49] <Seveas> ugenn, everyone who runs dapper and dist-upgraded today
[01:50] <Seveas> (well, for some parts)
[01:50] <ugenn> are the 7.0 libs binary comparible with existing xlib apps?
[01:50] <ugenn> *compatible
[01:50] <bDerrly> dapper has it already?  :)
[01:50] <pa_l> how can i find out which ubuntu release i have?
[01:50] <bDerrly> i've been holding back x lately because they were upgrading it almost everyday
[01:50] <holy_cow> *hmmm*
[01:51] <bDerrly> pa_l, ctrl+alt+f1
[01:51] <claes> pa_l, cat /etc/issue
[01:51] <bDerrly> ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[01:51] <holy_cow> when one uses gparted to repartition a drive, is a boot sector automatically created?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holy_cow
[01:52] <holy_cow> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[01:52] <holy_cow> Kamping_Kaiser, i'm about to try those file sharing instructions you forwarded way back :)
[01:52] <holy_cow> heh
[01:52] <Denstark> I love how fast Ubuntu updates. It makes me happy. <3 Binary Packages.
[01:53] <pa_l>  Astxist i stil dont know how to change the au stuff? please explain
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol holy_cow
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl. feel free to ask if you need to :)
[01:53] <holy_cow> i'm sure i will have a question or two
[01:53] <ugenn> uh...how's xorg7's binary compatibility?
[01:54] <Denstark> ftcl?
[01:54] <claes> ugenn, With the version dapper have, I haven't noticed any trouble.
[01:54] <Astxist> au is the extension for my country austraila
[01:54] <ugenn> claes: do you have your existing xorg side by side with the new one?
[01:54] <claes> ugenn, Running dapper since the day it opened it up.
[01:55] <claes> ugenn, Nope, I only use the version in dapper.
[01:55] <Astxist> pa_l, so if you where in the us
[01:55] <ugenn> claes: what's the major version for libX11 from xorg7?
[01:55] <Astxist> you'd use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <Astxist> instead
[01:56] <ugenn> claes: it's still libX11.so.6 i presume?
[01:56] <pa_l> Astxist iam in Norway
[01:56] <claes> libx11-6 1.0.0-0ubuntu2 is the version of the deb. I'll check
[01:56] <bDerrly> i'm not seeing xorg7 in apt-cache
[01:57] <pa_l> Astxist by the way everything you sendt was comment out. so i uncommented the urls and didnt change anything else. still iam not able to do apt-get install opera
[01:57] <Astxist> pa_l, no is the tld for Norway
[01:58] <claes> ugenn, libX11.a libX11.so libX11.so.6 libX11.so.6.2.0 is what I have
[01:58] <Astxist> pa_l, use sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <Astxist> pa_l, and then use apt-cache search opera
[01:58] <Astxist> pa_l, if nothing comes up it's probably not in the repos
[01:58] <NigelS> pa_l: opera isn't in ubuntu
[01:59] <pa_l> Astxist i have already installed opera. and i removed because there was some ld.so problems. but the main problem is dependency stuff, maybe because i interrupted apt-get update some days ago
[02:00] <Astxist> pa_l, wouldn't know where to start with that :)
[02:00] <claes> pa_l, Check if opera still have a static version.
[02:00] <ugenn> is there a way to access repositories through a web browser?
[02:00] <bDerrly> try dpkg-reconfigure --pending
[02:00] <NigelS> pa_l: you installed opera a few days ago *from* the ubuntu repositories?
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> just put the url into a web browser
[02:01] <ubuntuSwitcher> gday everyone. how to start a console window? lol i cant find it anywhere. thanks!
[02:01] <cbx33> applications -> acessories -> terminal
[02:01] <HymnToLife> ugenn > http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <ubuntuSwitcher> cbx33, ty
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> startx
[02:01] <cbx33> got a problem with unionfs
[02:01] <pa_l> NigelS yes i did so
[02:01] <cbx33> anyone else ever installed it on ubuntu
[02:02] <pa_l> no sorry NigelS i actually downloaded opera mysel
[02:02] <pa_l> myself
[02:02] <zosologist> how do i get to the change user screen
[02:02] <pa_l> but i used apt-get remove opera
[02:02] <NigelS> pa_l: I was going to say, it's non-free software and I don't think its license lets it be repackaged
[02:02] <NigelS> pa_l: I see, and you want to reinstall the same deb?
[02:03] <ugenn> HymnToLife: thx
[02:03] <zosologist> how do i get to the switch user screen?
[02:03] <zosologist> without restarting atleast
[02:03] <FlannelKing> log out you mean?
[02:03] <pa_l> no i just want apt-get to work properly. i cant do any apt-get install
[02:03] <bDerrly> system -> logout
[02:03] <FlannelKing> or, do you want a second screen?
[02:03] <zosologist> that always kicks me to console
[02:03] <cbx33> pa_l, what's up with it
[02:03] <FlannelKing> it shouldnt.
[02:04] <zosologist> hmm ill try again
[02:04] <NigelS> pa_l: apt-get doesn't do what you think it does.  apt-get accesses the repositories
[02:04] <bDerrly> yeah, that shouldn't take you to console
[02:04] <FlannelKing> do you have a window manager running?
[02:04] <NigelS> pa_l: if you've added something manually to your local system it can remove it, but it won't know where to get it from if you ask for it to be installed
[02:04] <NigelS> pa_l: it only knows about the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list - you'll need to dpkg -i the deb if you want to install it
[02:04] <MrRio> wow, ubuntu is really good
[02:04] <Denstark> I just installed ubuntu-calendar-december and was wondering where the image files that were downloaded went =o
[02:05] <MrRio> Synaptic and apt are ALOT better than fedora's yum + yumex
[02:05] <bDerrly> Denstark, dpkg -L ubuntu-calendar-december
[02:05] <claes> Denstark, dpkg -L ubuntu-calendar-december
[02:05] <Denstark> Thank you =)
[02:05] <claes> Wops to slow.
[02:06] <pa_l> sure NigelS but i had some problems with the sources.list and i gott new for breezy from Astxist. but he mentioned to change the au. in the url i think, but i live in Norway and is there any url like   deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:07] <cbx33> pa_l, ping it and find out :p
[02:07] <claes> pa_l, Not sure if there are any no servers. Switch to se the Swedish ones are great! :-)
[02:07] <agorf> i click on the synapitc package manager but it wont load any ideas?
[02:07] <agorf> synaptics*
[02:08] <pa_l> swedish end with se
[02:08] <ktogias> agorf, doesn't it ask you for your password?
[02:08] <Astxist> pa_l, heh sorry forgot to mention they might not have a server for no :/
[02:09] <agorf> ktogias, err no
[02:09] <pa_l> Astxist  why is there deb before the http://.... url
[02:09] <agorf> ktogias, i just listen to a sound and then nothing
[02:09] <agorf> ktogias, moreover, i never got the change to set a root password (not that it is relevant)
[02:09] <pa_l> and deb-src http://....
[02:09] <claes> pa_l, yes. use:  http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:09] <ktogias> strange...
[02:10] <NigelS> pa_l: run apt-setup to find a local mirror.  You'll probably want the universe and multiverse too, so just add those words on the same line
[02:10] <Astxist> pa_l, just change the ones with a tld leave the rest
[02:10] <ktogias> agorf, in Ubuntu you don't have a root passwd... You get root privileges with sudo...
[02:11] <ktogias> Have you set a password for root?
[02:11] <agorf> no
[02:11] <ktogias> right
[02:11] <agorf> so i do everything by prepending sudo ?
[02:11] <claes> Not to nag but is anyone familliar with the lsb functions in ubuntu?
[02:11] <ktogias> agorf, yes
[02:12] <agorf> m, strange
[02:12] <Astxist> claes, not I
[02:12] <ktogias> or sudo -i if you want a root shell ....
[02:12] <pagan> is there an irc client I can use in the CLI that is better than bitchx...this thing bites :P
[02:12] <ktogias> try running sudo synaptic from a terminal...
[02:12] <NigelS> pagan: irssi
[02:12] <Astxist> pagan, you could try irssi
[02:13] <agorf> ktogias, i will thanks :)
[02:13] <pagan> irssi? okay thank you NigelS
[02:13] <NigelS> no probs. I like it anyway :)
[02:13] <pagan> thank you Astxist
[02:14] <Astxist> pagan, I can't vouch for it though, I like a GUI :)
[02:14] <pagan> i cannot stand this bitchx..they named it right it is a $%^&*
[02:14] <NigelS> as they say, bitchx is 99% quit message :)
[02:14] <Astxist> heh
[02:14] <Seveas> irssi is much better than B-X
[02:14] <NigelS> there are quite a few broken things about it.
[02:14] <pagan> i need a CLI client as I am ssh into my ubuntu box from school
[02:15] <Seveas> irssi+screen :)
[02:15] <NigelS> I'm using irssi now, it's all I use :)
[02:15] <Astxist> pagan, heh
[02:15] <pagan> I am gonna try that NigelS ..thank you :)
[02:15] <Astxist> I use XChat I played with it when I used windows and got into tcl so it makes things easier
[02:15] <Seveas> pagan, have a look at screen too :)
[02:16] <Seveas> ewwww tcl
[02:16] <Seveas> learn python :)
[02:16] <NigelS> yes without screen it's all farely pointless :)
[02:16] <pa_l> do i need mysql-server if mysql-common is installed?
[02:16] <Seveas> pa_l, onl if you want the server
[02:16] <Astxist> too lazy ;p
[02:17] <Astxist> I almost had to learn python the other day but I figured out how to hack up the script enough to get it to do what I wanted :)
[02:17] <Seveas> Astxist, any language in which you can write a palindrome checker in 1 line (+1 extra line for I/O handling) is worth learning :)
[02:17] <pagan> i know a little bit of python..not much tho :P
[02:17] <Astxist> Seveas, heh I'm not that far into it
[02:18] <pagan> okay i am out on a limb and wide open for the stupid comments...what is a palindrome? *ducks* "QUACK"
[02:19] <Astxist> pagan, no idea
[02:19] <Astxist> pagan, sounds like a building
[02:19] <NigelS> pagan: it's a number/string that is the same backwards as it is forwards
[02:19] <Seveas> a word that is the same when you spell it backwards
[02:19] <pagan> oh! like 0101010 <--like that?
[02:20] <Seveas> like mom or dad or lol :) (the 3-letter ones are the easiest)
[02:20] <pagan> or like BOB <--LOL
[02:20] <Seveas> :)
[02:20] <HymnToLife> or lol :p
[02:20] <Astxist> no not the bob
[02:20] <NigelS> pagan: e.g. bob or http://www.norvig.com/palindrome.html
[02:20] <NigelS> :)
[02:21] <pagan> okay checkin it out...have to use lynx :P``` weeee
[02:21] <Seveas> or deified
[02:21] <Seveas> or kayak
[02:21] <NigelS> I think thats cheating though
[02:21] <Seveas> english only has small palindromes
[02:21] <NigelS> if you're going to make a proper palindrome of more than 1 word it should be meaningful :)
[02:21] <Seveas> the largest is deified
[02:22] <claes> or: Ah, Satan sees natasha
[02:22] <Seveas> claes, :)
[02:22] <pagan> claes that was clever :)
[02:23] <Astxist> ah no worky
[02:23] <pagan> brb
[02:23] <Astxist> :)
[02:23] <claes> My brother always naged me about palindromes when I grew up. But it's harder in english then in Swedish.
[02:24] <Astxist> so why are palindromes important? or are they just one of those fun little tid bits?
[02:25] <Seveas> the latter
[02:25] <Astxist> k
[02:25] <pagan> unless you are a witch and write spells...I was just reading about that just now ;)
[02:25] <ubuntuSwitcher> i am gonna reboot now after tweaking services with sysv-rc-conf. hope i boot back....sigh
[02:25] <NigelS> I'm sure they're very important.... :)
[02:25] <NigelS> I looked forward to 2002 for just that reason
[02:26] <HymnToLife> now wait for 2112 :p
[02:26] <thompsbm> anybody on that is running pureftpd
[02:26] <HymnToLife> Rush rules
[02:26] <Astxist> I don't recall any witches doing that ;p
[02:26] <claes> I prefer pi.  Not important at all. only training the brain.
[02:26] <pagan> rush does rule
[02:26] <Seveas> !pi
[02:26] <zmaster> 105
[02:26] <Seveas> !+pi
[02:26] <ubotu> pi is, like, totally, 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346
[02:27] <HymnToLife> lol
[02:27] <HymnToLife> nice one :p
[02:27] <NigelS> HymnToLife: best egg on those anti-aging treatments the sci-fi writers promise us :)
[02:27] <pagan> nice ubotu
[02:27] <MrRio> omfg i like totally love pi!1!1!
[02:27] <HymnToLife> pi is overrated
[02:27] <Seveas> !+e
[02:27] <ubotu> hmm... e is Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary or e17 on breezy: http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[02:27] <pagan> i like apple pi
[02:27] <Astxist> stupid infinate values
[02:27] <pagan> :P
[02:27] <NigelS> lol
[02:27] <Astxist> *infinit
[02:27] <poningru> hey guys how do you open a .lit file?
[02:28] <Seveas> not infinite, just transcendent
[02:28] <poningru> is that possible?
[02:28] <pagan> poningru: with a can opener :P
[02:28] <HymnToLife> lmao
[02:28] <pagan> sorry!
[02:29] <thompsbm> i start pureftpd from init.d but it does not start...i don't get an error message and when i do ps grep i don't see the process
[02:29] <patfm> hi, does anyone know if there is some sort of patch I have to install to get a vaio laptop (xbrite) screen to work with X in ubuntu? I've tweaked xorg.conf ad nauseum and to no avail
[02:29] <MrRio> poningru: you mean those microsoft reader thingies?
[02:29] <Seveas> infinity would be 
[02:29] <NigelS> poningru: with google! not heard of them before, and just found this - maybe it works -> http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php
[02:29] <thompsbm> ftp localhost
[02:29] <thompsbm> ftp: connect: Connection refused
[02:29] <Corbier> lut all
[02:29] <poningru> MrRio: yeah
[02:29] <NigelS> thompsbm: doesn't it spit out a log to /var/log?
[02:29] <poningru> NigelS: hmm thanks I am looking
[02:30] <Badm4n> any1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way
[02:30] <thompsbm> NigelS: there is a pure-ftpd dir but nothing in it
[02:31] <MrRio> poningru: not sure, but if you find a way let me know ;)
[02:31] <NigelS> thompsbm: hmm, have you tried starting it yourself, not using it's init script
[02:31] <dabugas> hi
[02:31] <dabugas> i get a "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" for the universe when i "apt-get update" from two different repositories. any ideas?
[02:31] <thompsbm> NigelS: no how would i do that?
[02:32] <zosologist> k so ive got an old p2 233 with like 256 or 128mb ram dont rember atm, and a 3 gig hard drive that i want to set up as a web browsing comp, what linux distribution would you guys reccomend
[02:32] <zosologist> flashy gua would be nice, its for my parents
[02:32] <pagan> hmmm Package irssi has no installation candidate <-- I love these...even software gets political :P```
[02:32] <NigelS> thompsbm: I've not sed proftpd before but you should quickly look at the man page to find out the options for greater verbosity etc and then just run it from the CLI - proftpd --<options>
[02:32] <burning_bronx> zosologist, why don't you try a ubuntu install with openbox or fluxbox?
[02:33] <thompsbm> NigelS: i found /usr/sbin/pureftpd-mysql
[02:33] <burning_bronx> or maybe Xfce thought it's not all that lightweight
[02:33] <Astxist> zosologist, damn small linux maybe :) ?
[02:33] <burning_bronx> ah
[02:33] <pagan> doh! cuz it was already installed...*smashes nogin on keyboard*
[02:33] <zosologist> Astxist, i was thinking dsl actually
[02:33] <Astxist> actually I'd probably prefer burning_bronx's idea
[02:33] <pagan> whereis and there it was
[02:34] <thompsbm> NigelS: loks like starting it from /usr/sbin/ worked
[02:34] <NigelS> pagan: the error doensn't imply it was already installed - sounds like there's a variant of the irssi package that actually gets irssi
[02:34] <thompsbm> NigelS: what would cause init to fail?
[02:34] <burning_bronx> well mini-ram installs ain't that easy but easy enough if you don't mind printing a page for reference
[02:34] <burning_bronx> :)
[02:34] <zosologist> burning_bronx im a linux noob how much trouble is it gonna be to switch frontends? is it gonna cause conflicts and what not?
[02:35] <burning_bronx> zosologist, when you do such an install you only install the server and then add the rest from console
[02:35] <burning_bronx> so you have to be familiar with the console and console text editors like nano
[02:36] <NigelS> thompsbm: all it does is run that script - but it really shouldn't fail. runing /etc/init.d/pro... restart should work - maybe it's a bug with your setup.  You can always have a peek in the script to see if you can spot anything
[02:36] <burning_bronx> other than that you just make a list of what you would need and install it with apt-get
[02:36] <pagan2> hehehe
[02:36] <dabugas> i get a "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" for the universe when i "apt-get update" from two different repositories. any ideas?
[02:36] <burning_bronx> there are pretty nice how-tos in the how-to section of the forums
[02:36] <pagan> hehehe
[02:36] <zosologist> ahhh
[02:36] <pagan> oh brother I can chat with myself
[02:36] <burning_bronx> zosologist, you can print one and try it
[02:36] <pagan> there irssi
[02:37] <burning_bronx> or if you want Xfce that would be a lot easier
[02:37] <burning_bronx> you make a server install and then do "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:37] <zosologist> burning_bronx: whats on the server install? everything but the gui or nothing but the kernal?
[02:37] <pagan> thanks again Nigel:
[02:37] <burning_bronx> it's the base system
[02:37] <zosologist> ahh
[02:38] <burning_bronx> just bare bones console
[02:38] <Badm4n> any1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way
[02:38] <burning_bronx> zosologist, open a terminal and type nano - that would give you an idea what the terminal text editor look like
[02:39] <burning_bronx> you would need to edit the sources.list with nano if you're gonna make such an install
[02:39] <zosologist> ahh classy
[02:39] <burning_bronx> it's the very best text editor ;)
[02:39] <Noob> hello
[02:40] <Noob> could anyone help me with a little somthing?
[02:40] <Noob> please?
[02:40] <HymnToLife> sure No1Viking
[02:40] <burning_bronx> Noob, if we can we speak
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> Why don't I have any C manuals?
[02:40] <HymnToLife> Noob*
[02:40] <zosologist> burning_bronx: suspect i got alot more to learn about linux before i try that
[02:40] <Astxist> Noob, just ask
[02:40] <zosologist> :)
[02:40] <Noob> I'm runing liveCD5.10
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> man 3c anything gives me nothing!  How can I get the C manuals?
[02:40] <burning_bronx> :q
[02:40] <pagan> tiglio: cuz they're not installed?
[02:40] <Noob> now, I understand that I need to install packages to have, say, emacs and gcc.
[02:40] <burning_bronx> zosologist, it's not that much
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> pagan: well why not, and what package are they in?
[02:41] <burning_bronx> besides you learn by doing stuff
[02:41] <burning_bronx> only reading is not enough
[02:41] <zosologist> lol
[02:41] <Noob> I searched through the package manager, and I can't find DDD. What's the best way to add that?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> Noob > you cannot install anything if you're running a live cd
[02:41] <zosologist> yeah thats why i dumped windows, jump in with both feet and what not
[02:41] <coNP> HymnToLife : why not?
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> Noob: ddd is in universe
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> HymnToLife: yes you can
[02:41] <Noob> okay.
[02:41] <claes> Do I have to add the route 240.0.0.0 to get multicast to work or do it work out-of-the-box now in modern kernels?
[02:41] <Noob> If I'm runing livecd, I can't add anything?
[02:41] <Astxist> zosologist, me too lots of fun
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> Noob: yes you can actually
[02:42] <holycow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52385  <-- neat
[02:42] <Noob> oh, that's wonderful news. how do I do that?
[02:42] <pagan> they are in some docs package tuck deep in the dark dungeons hidden from those that are looking for'em...in other words I have no clue ...sorry! :P```
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> Noob: same way anyone does
[02:42] <Noob> oh, and where on the file system is my hard drive, btw? :-)
[02:42] <holycow> i think ubuntu has overtaken gentoo for usefull linux user/admin type of information overall
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> Noob: not mounted by default.  You can add it if you want
[02:42] <HymnToLife> isn't the filesystem read-only when you run a live cd ?
[02:42] <holycow> maybe not on the advanced tips/tricks side, but definately for the regular user stuff
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> HymnToLife: no, it's not mounted by default.  You can mount it any way you want
[02:42] <Astxist> Ubuntu is all
[02:42] <johnsie2k> !nfts
[02:42] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, johnsie2k
[02:43] <johnsie2k> !nfts
[02:43] <HymnToLife> yeah but you need to have some free space somewhere
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> johnsie2k: spell it right, ntfs
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> !ntfs
[02:43] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:43] <Noob> you mean free as in - not partitioned as NTFS?
[02:43] <HymnToLife> if he's running the live cd, maybe his hd is full with a Windows install
[02:43] <pagan> when you install ubuntu your harddrive melts and disappears...no more C:\Windoz ever again...*poof* gone
[02:43] <zosologist> how much ram does gnome eat
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> HymnToLife: no, the liveCD runs from memory
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> a fake hard drive in memory
[02:43] <Astxist> ntfs disk mounting is also in the Help app
[02:44] <Noob> okay. I'll go read the help *sigh*.
[02:44] <Noob> :-)
[02:44] <Noob> thanks guys.
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> pagan: not true.  You can resize partitions and install dual boot
[02:44] <burning_bronx> zosologist, gnome is too heavy for the system you talk about
[02:44] <HymnToLife> yeah but there might not be enough free space on it to install something
[02:44] <HymnToLife> depends of the amount of ram
[02:44] <burning_bronx> and with the metacity wm I could say it's impossible
[02:44] <zosologist> burning_bronx: i suspected as much
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> so anyway, does anyone know how I can get the C manuals?
[02:45] <pagan> tiglionabbit: yes I know that...I am just a gigantic smart (_!_) sorry! can't help myself
[02:45] <claes> johnsie2k, look at this also: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[02:45] <Astxist> Noob, Help - Ubuntu starter's guide - windows partions
[02:45] <Astxist> *partitions
[02:45] <pagan> one sec tiglionabbit
[02:45] <pagan> i will find it
[02:46] <Badm4n> any1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way <-- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6963.html <-- is this url will werk ?
[02:46] <burning_bronx> zosologist, have you checked the tuts on installing a mini-ram system?
[02:47] <Xkiddiegrinders> Hello all
[02:47] <zosologist> burning_bronx, not the same as swap space i assume?
[02:47] <pagan> do a search in synaptic for doc
[02:47] <ubuntuSwitcher> am i on the 383 or the 686 kernel? (Linux edubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux)
[02:47] <burning_bronx> mini-ram system = installation that doesn't require as much resources
[02:48] <HymnToLife> ubuntulog > uname -r
[02:48] <zosologist> ahh nope havent checked
[02:48] <ubuntuSwitcher> thanks ubuntulog
[02:48] <Astxist> hi Xkiddiegrinders
[02:48] <HymnToLife> you're on 386 (sorry I didn't read the whole msg ^^')
[02:48] <ubuntuSwitcher> :) np i got it
[02:48] <Xkiddiegrinders> Im new to linux and im absolutely loving it
[02:49] <Xkiddiegrinders> I just got it running today
[02:49] <Astxist> Xkiddiegrinders, ^_^
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> oh, it's manpages-dev
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> yay
[02:49] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Welcome to the bright life on the Linux side. Isn't it great!
[02:49] <Xkiddiegrinders> Indeed it is wonderful
[02:50] <Astxist> linux have shiney UI, I approve :)
[02:50] <johnsie2k> I've mounted an ntfs file system.... is there any way i can chnage the names of the icons for someone who isnt used to linux?
[02:50] <Xkiddiegrinders> Im mainly a mac user but linux is making me drool with anticipation of all the fun things I could tweak
[02:50] <NOVA> hi
[02:51] <Xkiddiegrinders> I had a couple of problems but found all my solutions in the forums at ubuntulinux.org
[02:51] <Astxist> Xkiddiegrinders, yeah it screams play with me
[02:51] <NOVA> i have got a P4 3,2 Ghz this is i686 or i386 packages?
[02:51] <zosologist> burning_bronx: so why not just install DSL, its almost all the features packed with it that one would need for a browsing box
[02:51] <HymnToLife> NOVA > run uname -r
[02:51] <Xkiddiegrinders> there is one thing I cant figure out
[02:51] <Xkiddiegrinders> torrents
[02:51] <burning_bronx> zosologist, cause we're in the ubuntu channel :P
[02:52] <HymnToLife> lol
[02:52] <zosologist> burning_bronx lol
[02:52] <burning_bronx> besides the installation type that I am talkin about gives you more power over features
[02:52] <zosologist> fair enough
[02:52] <zosologist> ahhh
[02:52] <johnsie2k> is there like a txt file teeling ubuntu which drives to mount?
[02:52] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, What about torrents?
[02:52] <burning_bronx> johnsie2k, there is /etc/fstab
[02:52] <claes> johnsie2k, /etc/fstab
[02:52] <burning_bronx> lol claes  :)
[02:52] <claes> To sloow again.
[02:52] <johnsie2k> yeah thats the one i thinjk, thanks :-)
[02:52] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, Well Im trying to run Azureus and when I get a torrent file and try to use it there is no connection
[02:53] <burning_bronx> Xkiddiegrinders, you sure there are seeders?
[02:53] <Xkiddiegrinders> yep, positive
[02:53] <burning_bronx> aside from that I suggest you use something else - Azureus is a memory hog and greatly overrated
[02:53] <Xkiddiegrinders> Ive had problems with my net connection on here
[02:53] <Lukian> Xkiddiegrinders: i get that too
[02:53] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Have read somewhere you have to use the jre1.5 not jre1.4 to get the networking parts to work.
[02:54] <HighHopes> Hello! I'm using an RT2500 Wireless Card in my old laptop with APM (Not ACPI). I wish I could avoid wireless card to "sleep" when I don't use it for a given period of time... How can I achieve this? Thanks!
[02:54] <Xkiddiegrinders> solved it for this and gaim by substituting the server names for their IP's
[02:54] <Lukian> burning_bronx: the default bittorent client under gnome on ubuntu isn't much better
[02:54] <burning_bronx> you mean BitTornado?
[02:54] <claes> in Azureus that is.
[02:54] <alterim> hey are there any decent games for linux?
[02:54] <HymnToLife> alterim > frozen bubble :p
[02:55] <wafe> hello
[02:55] <HymnToLife> hi wafe
[02:55] <Xkiddiegrinders> How goes it wafe
[02:55] <wafe> thx, fine & self?
[02:56] <Xkiddiegrinders> Im good
[02:56] <alterim> looks cool
[02:56] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Sounds like it's a dns resolver problem. Check /etc/resolv.conf
[02:56] <wafe> it`s good to hear
[02:56] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, how do I check that?
[02:56] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, ive tried but it wont let me edit it
[02:56] <aeon17x> !w32codecs
[02:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:56] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, cat /etc/resolv.conf to look at it.
[02:56] <HymnToLife> Xkiddiegrinders > run it with sudo
[02:57] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[02:57] <wafe> exit
[02:57] <wafe> q
[02:57] <Xkiddiegrinders> search domain.actdsltmp
[02:57] <Xkiddiegrinders> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[02:57] <Xkiddiegrinders> nameserver 205.171.3.65
[02:57] <Xkiddiegrinders> thats what it gave me
[02:58] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Change the order of the nameserver lines and se what happens. You would probably need to restart the program.
[02:59] <alterim> are there any good binary usenet downloaders for linux?
[02:59] <claes> alterim, pan
[02:59] <alterim> ok, yeah i tried pan on xp a while back
[02:59] <Fushi> is there a command to see whats using up system resources?
[03:00] <Xkiddiegrinders> WOOT that did it!
[03:00] <claes> Fushi, top
[03:00] <Lukian> Fushi: apps -> system tools -> system monitor for gui? :p
[03:00] <HymnToLife> Fushi > apps > system tools > system monitor
[03:00] <Fushi> thanks, thats what i was looking for :D
[03:00] <Xkiddiegrinders> and to think...thats all it was for all those programs
[03:00] <mite> i just got a usb2ethernet device for my laptop.  wonder what the chances are it will work with ubuntu.
[03:00] <Fushi> Well those work too I guess
[03:00] <Fushi> xP
[03:00] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Great!
[03:00] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes. indeed.
[03:01] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, thank you very much! :D
[03:01] <pagan> teach just asked me why I have a DOS shell opened...I told'em I like the finer things in life...LOL tis putty installed into my profile :p
[03:01] <Lukian> mite: are we placing bets?
[03:01] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Glad I could help.
[03:01] <mite> perhaps if youre interested Lukian we could speak in private
[03:01] <Astxist> pagan, heh I used to get that but I was actually using the dos shell ;p
[03:01] <Xkiddiegrinders> its seems a lot of people have the same problem with the modem and service I have
[03:01] <mite> hehe
[03:01] <Xkiddiegrinders> qwest Dsl with actiontec modem
[03:02] <alterim> ok
[03:02] <alterim> i installed frozen bubble
[03:02] <alterim> it has no sound at all
[03:02] <alterim> how do i get my computer to do sound..
[03:02] <pagan> we are supposed to not be able to use telnet here ...funny if I open internet exploder and type telnet poof there it is
[03:02] <alterim> xp did sound
[03:02] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Well 192.168.0.1 is an internal ip address it will never work on the internet. So I guessed that the internal DNS was hosted.
[03:02] <alterim> and wireless
[03:03] <claes> pagan, Windows security at it's best!
[03:03] <Lukian> alterim: great, go use xp.
[03:03] <alterim> well you could help me then i might persevere!
[03:03] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, makes sense
[03:04] <Lukian> mite: hehe, i haven't tried obscure devices yet, all my hardware has worked out of box
[03:04] <pagan> claes: it is either that which I vote on or..the admin has a mcse LOL
[03:04] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, do you know of any good sites for linuxs apps?
[03:04] <tRSS> Quick question: On ubuntu 5.10, trying to authenticate with win2k3 domain controller, I get this error when doing kinit admin_account@domain: "KDC has no support for encryption type while getting initial credentials". What does this mean?
[03:04] <alterim> can anyone tell me how do i get frozen bubble to make sound?
[03:04] <mite> Lukian, wheres an 8ball when you need one?
[03:04] <mite> :)
[03:04] <pagan> alterim: thaw it out :P
[03:04] <Lukian> let's see what Wanda says, mite! :D
[03:05] <alterim> aka i don't know?
[03:05] <Lukian> Kiss me, Kate, we will be married o' Sunday.
[03:05] <Lukian> 		-- William Shakespeare, "The Taming of the Shrew"
[03:05] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, www.freshmeat.net have alot.
[03:05] <mite> we will find out soon enough
[03:05] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, awesome
[03:05] <mite> ill report my findings later this evening
[03:05] <alterim> so, anyone know how to fix the sound?!
[03:05] <claes> pagan, Probably both. :-)
[03:05] <Lukian> more relevantly mite: An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future.
[03:05] <mite> hmmm
[03:05] <oli_vert> alterim, are your other sounds ok? try running alsactl from a command line and make sure none are muted
[03:06] <mite> apparently i must go to newark to obtain a wired ethernet connection for my laptop
[03:06] <mite> perplexing..
[03:06] <alterim> the only sounds i've had are from gaim
[03:06] <alterim> nothing else seems to give any sound
[03:06] <mite> alterim, what about when gaim is closed
[03:06] <claes> alterim, close gaim and see if you have sound then.
[03:07] <pagan> claes: I just asked the teach...he definitely has a MCSE love this world of certified nobodys that once upon a time cringed to the idea of even dealing with a computer...weee
[03:07] <alterim> no sound!
[03:07] <john2k> hi
[03:07] <pagan> john2k: harrow
[03:07] <tRSS> Quick question: On ubuntu 5.10, trying to authenticate with win2k3 domain controller, I get this error when doing kinit admin_account@domain: "KDC has no support for encryption type while getting initial credentials". What does this mean?
[03:08] <claes> pagan, Well I can say much about certifications. I work with it. As an instructor.
[03:08] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes, do you frequent the forums at ubuntulinux.org?
[03:08] <john2k> hi, I'm trying to apt-get something  but I keep getting the messag: E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:08] <alterim> i get alert sounds and sounds from gaim, that's it
[03:08] <alterim> when i run frozen bubble i get nothing
[03:08] <Badm4n> http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv <--- is this enough to have rc.local like other distro ? using default or level 2 or 3 or........... ?
[03:08] <tRSS> john2k: close synaptic
[03:08] <john2k> did that
[03:08] <john2k> still happening
[03:08] <tiglionabbit> john2k: that means you're trying to run two interfaces to apt at the same time, or are not root
[03:08] <tRSS> john2k: you have something else running in the background (perhaps software update) that is not allowing you to do apt-get
[03:08] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, Read them sometimes. But not that often.
[03:09] <john2k> I'm root and all i ahve open is one terminal
[03:09] <tiglionabbit> john2k: by interfaces to apt I include apt-get, aptitude, "Add Programs", Synaptic, Kynaptic, etc
[03:09] <Xkiddiegrinders> claes. alrighty just wondering
[03:09] <pagan> claes: I am 43 years old...I have over 25 years of computing experience...I can't bring myself to get a cert...dunno why...just can't do it...err
[03:09] <alterim> anyone help me work out why i have no sound?
[03:09] <claes> Xkiddiegrinders, If I didn't need to work i would be there more. .-)
[03:09] <john2k> i have one terminal open, thats all
[03:09] <tiglionabbit> john2k: say "ps aux | grep apt" and see if anything else with apt in its name is running
[03:10] <tiglionabbit> john2k: and to be sure you're root, say "whoami".  It should respond "root"
[03:10] <claes> pagan, Not even when ubuntu realeses it's certification program? :-)
[03:10] <pagan> claes: you gotta be kiddin, are you for real? ubuntu is gonna have a cert program?
[03:11] <john2k> ok i found a truckload of stuff... how do i likk them?
[03:11] <pagan> <--naive
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> john2k: likk?  You mean kill?
[03:11] <alterim> anyone help me work out why i have no sound?
[03:11] <john2k> yeah
[03:11] <john2k> lol
[03:11] <claes> pagan, I'm only 30 and have 15 years of computer ecperience. And I have boxes at home with certifications. Yes they will. It's gonna build on top of LPI cert.
[03:11] <alterim> how is linux ever going to become a standard if
[03:11] <claes> pagan, See if I can find the link.
[03:11] <alterim> sound doesn't work
[03:11] <alterim> wireless cards don't work
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> john2k: um, first let me be sure you're not killing anything essential.  Paste them here and give me the url: http://pastebin.com
[03:11] <Astxist> sound works for me
[03:12] <alterim> and everything doesn't work, i mean
[03:12] <claes> pagan, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/partners/certification/
[03:12] <burning_bronx> alterim, they do work ;) but you gotta make it work sometimes
[03:12] <burning_bronx> :P
[03:12] <pagan> thanks claes...maybe I might get that cert LOL windoz certs NO!
[03:12] <john2k> wireless cards work well in ubuntu
[03:12] <HIghoS> alterim: Considering how 'easy' it is today, you shouldn't complain.  Should have seen what it was like 6 years ago.
[03:12] <tiglionabbit> alterim: actually, all of those things work for most people.  Specific hardware has problems though
[03:12] <HIghoS> ^^
[03:12] <alterim> hmm!
[03:12] <burning_bronx> talk about specific hardware... I hate my SiS graphics card >.>
[03:12] <pagan> ya once upon a time you were told to go RTFM and that was that :P
[03:13] <HIghoS> pagan: Heh.
[03:13] <alterim> not much has changed then
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> pagan: but rtfm-ing is so educational!
[03:13] <alterim> so, i have system sound, but i load frozen bubble, and i have no sound
[03:13] <claes> pagan, You can have some of my win cert. I don't need them.
[03:13] <pagan> i know i did RTFM and what a dry read that was ZzzzZZzzz
[03:13] <alterim> i thought frozen bubble was supposed to have cool music!
[03:13] <Seveas> !lart pagan
[03:13] <eps> is the  linux-image for 2.6.12-10-386 built using gcc4.x or still 3.6?
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> alterim: then ESD is having trouble mixing two streams of sound
[03:13] <Seveas> good manuals are not boring :)
[03:13] <alterim> ok. so what can i do to fix that?
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> alterim: simple solution is "killall esd" before running frozen bubble, but then you get no system sounds.
[03:14] <JoshX> hi, where do i add a global PATH entry? so that the entire server knows it?
[03:14] <Allan> when I run "sudo _________", it doesn't matter what's in the blank; it just does nothing and goes to the command prompt. why does it do this?
[03:14] <alterim> hmm
[03:14] <pagan> nah! i been lookin for work and a lot of companies i interviewed for were asking for win certs and I just refuse to give into that...just can't do it
[03:14] <alterim> but i want system sounds too
[03:14] <claes> pagan, Perhaps I'm weird. But I like reading manuals and HOWTOS.
[03:14] <Allan> and how do I get it working?
[03:14] <oli_vert> alterim, try running esddsp frozen-bubble
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> alterim: actually, it's probably a better idea to go to system-> prefs -> multimedia systems selector and select "alsa" in both categories
[03:14] <burning_bronx> claes, that is weird >.>
[03:14] <burning_bronx> <.<
[03:15] <burning_bronx> Usually people only read those when they need them ~_~;
[03:15] <pagan> claes: you gotta see my library here...over 3,000 books of plain dry reading...all manuals on computing...my wife is threatening to toss them :(
[03:15] <Allan> claes: It's probably that I'm weird too, but it seems fine for me.
[03:15] <Allan> maybe even fun
[03:15] <mephis1987> Hello
[03:15] <burning_bronx> pagan you're pretty extreme aren't you ~_~
[03:15] <claes> I usualy start by reading them. And googling for what I'm doing. I usualy fix everything that way.
[03:15] <burning_bronx> then again maybe I am just too young
[03:15] <mephis1987> I have just installed ubuntu linux the first time
[03:16] <mephis1987> by default
[03:16] <john2k> ok I paste bined it
[03:16] <mephis1987> it installed in 2 partition
[03:16] <alterim> so i've chosen alsa as my INPUT and it's frozen Multimedia Systems Selector
[03:16] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, congrats ;) there's nothing like the first time ;P
[03:16] <alterim> nice one
[03:16] <mephis1987> the main partition and the swap one
[03:16] <pagan> nah! I just collected them over the last 5 years...some probably need to be tossed cuz they are outdated but I can't do it LOL
[03:16] <Allan> How do I get sudo to work? No matter what I run with it, it does nothing and asks for another command.
[03:17] <mephis1987> but someone told me that I should install some folder in seperate partition?
[03:17] <mephis1987> is it right?
[03:17] <burning_bronx> Allan, you do "sudo command"
[03:17] <burning_bronx> then it asks for a pass
[03:17] <Allan> yes
[03:17] <pagan> Allan: sounds like you are not in your sudoers list
[03:17] <claes> pagan, I love all the old O'reilly books about X. I wanna go home and read them now. Again. And the books about NIS. Was along time a looked in them. My evening is saved.
[03:17] <mephis1987> such as /var folder
[03:17] <Allan> no it doesn't burning bronx
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> alterim: you can add a force-quit button to your gnome panels for situations like that =] 
[03:17] <Allan> sudoing worked day before yesterday
[03:17] <mephis1987> should i install it in the seperate partition
[03:17] <burning_bronx> hmmm
[03:17] <alterim> just a shame it does it!
[03:18] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, what are you trying to install for Christ sake?
[03:18] <alterim> you'd think after a few years of thousands of developers..
[03:18] <mephis1987> :D
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> john2k: you still there?
[03:18] <mephis1987> yes
[03:18] <Allan> sudo echo hi
[03:18] <pagan> LOL claes...you are as bad as me...my wife refuses to come near me when I have a manual in my hands for fear I may talk about it LOL
[03:18] <Noob> anyway, I went to read the help file. It says I need to change /etc/../sources.list
[03:18] <john2k> Yeah
[03:18] <john2k> I've pasted it in
[03:18] <Noob> but it's (understandably) read only.
[03:18] <mephis1987> I installed Ubuntu linux and using it :D
[03:18] <Noob> as I'm using LiveCD.
[03:18] <alterim> ok, i run frozen bubble, no sound
[03:18] <Allan> then it says: allan@Owl - ~$
[03:18] <Noob> any way around it?
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> john2k: paste the url then
[03:18] <alterim> on the frozen bubble menu, the sound box is empty and selecting it does nothing
[03:18] <john2k> http://pastebin.com/475053
[03:19] <HymnToLife> Noob > why not installing ubuntu on your hard drive ?
[03:19] <coNP> Noob, are you sure is is read-only?
[03:19] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, there should be no need for a separate partition when you install software... that's plain dumb o_O;
[03:19] <eps> is the  linux-image for 2.6.12-10-386 built using gcc4.x or still 3.6?
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> john2k: I said "ps aux | grep apt"
[03:19] <JoshX> i don't get it.. where do i add a path in ubuntu so it is loaded at startup
[03:19] <mephis1987> but someone told me i should put /var folder on a seperate partition
[03:19] <mephis1987> no
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> john2k: not just "ps aux"
[03:19] <JoshX> i tried /etc/init.d/rcS
[03:19] <mephis1987> not software
[03:19] <claes> pagan, My girlfriend knows that I don't answer when I'm reading. Both books or the web. She usualy throw things at me to get my attention.
[03:19] <JoshX> i tried the daemon start script
[03:19] <JoshX> using export and everything
[03:19] <Noob> yeah, but I think I found the way they meant it to be now.
[03:19] <Noob> why not on HD?
[03:19] <JoshX> it's just not there after a rebootr
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> eps: 3.6
[03:19] <mephis1987> some special folders
[03:19] <Allan> How does sudo work? that might help solve my problem
[03:19] <Noob> Cause I'm noob. :-)
[03:20] <Noob> No, seriously, I don't feel ready yet.
[03:20] <john2k> ok lol
[03:20] <claes> pagan, Like now. Well best to see what she wants.
[03:20] <eps> Kamping_Kaiser is there one built on 4.x? (hey man :P)
[03:20] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, can you explain what are you talking about?
[03:20] <john2k> I porgram too much.. saw | as or lol
[03:20] <tiglionabbit> john2k: "ps aux" lists every process that's running.  grep searches that output for a particular word and only prints the lines with that word on it
[03:20] <Noob> I still need a working computer, I figure I better learn the ropes before I make my pc dependent on my linux knowladge.
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate ;) no, don't think so
[03:20] <eps> cause the current build-essential is 4.x and I can't compile anything since the kernel is 3.6
[03:20] <mephis1987> yes
[03:20] <tiglionabbit> john2k: in linux/unix, | is a pipe.  It means take the output of the first program and use it as the input of the second program
[03:20] <burning_bronx> eps, that's a known issue...
[03:21] <Allan> How do I get sudo to work?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'complie anything'?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> you should only have issues with kernel modules
[03:21] <pagan> claes: she just holds that finger up and says "Uhh don't even" LOL :P
[03:21] <mephis1987> here
[03:21] <mephis1987>                                         /var
[03:21] <mephis1987>   This directory contains variable data files.
[03:21] <mephis1987> q
[03:21] <mephis1987>         This includes spool directories, administrative and logging files, and
[03:21] <mephis1987>       r
[03:21] <mephis1987>         transient or temporary files.
[03:21] <mephis1987>   Programs record runtime information.
[03:21] <mephis1987> q
[03:21] <tiglionabbit> don't paste things please
[03:21] <mephis1987>   It is often good to make /var a separate partition during installatio
[03:21] <mcphail> eps: i think it is gcc-3.4. You can install that quite easily
[03:21] <mephis1987> q
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> mephis1987: oi
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't flood
[03:21] <JoshX> anyone !?
[03:21] <mephis1987> look at the bottom line
[03:21] <eps> mcphail mmm...will have to do that
[03:21] <eps> bbs
[03:22] <john2k> ok......... http://pastebin.com/475064
[03:22] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, if you've installed it already then there should be a /var foldier in your root
[03:22] <mephis1987> it says It is often good to make /var a separate partition during installation
[03:22] <mephis1987> yes
[03:22] <Allan> Where is another chat room where I can get help?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> JoshX: what's wrong?
[03:22] <mephis1987> but if the next time i install linux
[03:22] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: i need /usr/local/myapp/bin
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Allan: linux-help, linuxhelp, others
[03:22] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: to be in the global path
[03:22] <alterim> i'd really appreciate if someone could help me get sound playing in frozen bubble
[03:22] <mephis1987> do i have to make a seperate partition for this
[03:22] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: i just can't figure out where to put it
[03:22] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, it's not obligatory
[03:22] <eps> thanks mcphail will save me updating the kernel
[03:22] <mephis1987> is :d
[03:23] <mephis1987> i see
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> john2k: okay, look at that.  See process 9292?  That's apt-get running there.  So, that's why you can't lock the directory
[03:23] <eps> Kamping_Kaiser compiling vmware, my mistake a kernel module :P
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> JoshX: I'm not sure, but i think you type $path=$path:/extra/bit/of/path
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> eps ;)
[03:23] <mephis1987> but what s the advantage of doing that
[03:23] <john2k> how do i kill it?
[03:23] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: i tried
[03:23] <pagan> well of to maya class...laterz folks...keep on fixin :P
[03:23] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: i did that in my init.d script
[03:23] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: it just doesn't export it
[03:23] <dieffel> hi! how do i install the "make" utility... so that i can compile source-code?
[03:23] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: then when i do it at the prompt
[03:23] <mcphail> eps: vmware modules compile fine when you have gcc 3.4 installed
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> JoshX: cant help then. (i havent needed to hack that stuff)
[03:24] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: exact that command..
[03:24] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: you never needed to change your path?
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> JoshX: no
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> why would i :)
[03:24] <JoshX> right..
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> i put stuff in /usr/loca/blahl, and symlink it to /user/local/bin
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> *usr/
[03:24] <zosologist> how hard is it to set up wifi on ubuntu?
[03:24] <Noob> anyway, how do I mount my HD while runing LiveCD?
[03:25] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: hrmpf
[03:25] <burning_bronx> check out the new Xorg version: X Window System Version 6.99.99.904 (7.0.0 RC 4)
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:25] <JoshX> Kamping_Kaiser: that sounds icky :)
[03:25] <mephis1987> 1 more thing
[03:25] <burning_bronx> and Xorg 7 was officialy released already >.>
[03:25] <mephis1987> do linux have some programme like ghost
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> JoshX: no it's not :) it's squeaky clean
[03:25] <tiglionabbit> john2k: well I'll tell you how to kill it, but first be sure you want to.  To kill it, just say "kill 9292" to kill that process.  But first, why not try and figure out why it's running?  It seems to have started at the same time as /etc/cr.  What's in that file?
[03:25] <mephis1987> can i ghost linux on my pc to another pc ?
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> mephis1987: ghost?
[03:26] <mephis1987> uhm
[03:26] <Benix> hi
[03:26] <mephis1987> copy exactly what on my pc to another pc
[03:26] <john2k> I have no idea lol
[03:26] <Benix> how can I find out which driver for my wlancard is used?
[03:26] <john2k> bash: kill: (9292) - Operation not permitted
[03:27] <burning_bronx> john2k do sudo kill
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> mephis1987: there's the thin client protocol I heard about.  You can access your own machine through vncviewer or ssh on their machine.  I'm not sure exactly what you want
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> john2k: uh, sudo kill it?
[03:27] <john2k> nm it worked with suo
[03:27] <john2k> thanks
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> k
[03:27] <john2k>  :-0
[03:27] <burning_bronx> lol
[03:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[03:27] <burning_bronx> weird guy.
[03:27] <Noob> how do I mount the hard drive?
[03:27] <Noob> please?
[03:27] <burning_bronx> then again most of the ppl in here are geeks including me <.<
[03:28] <claes> mephis1987, Check www.portlocksoftware.com after a program called storage manager.
[03:28] <mephis1987> i have 2 pc and i have installed ubuntu linux on 1 of them , now i want to install linux on the other one , and copy exactly what on the 1 st pc to the 2nd one
[03:29] <mephis1987> i m checking that page
[03:29] <Noob> okay. thanks again. I'll be off.
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> hmm, interesting.  john2k was actually completely correct in that he had not run apt-get
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> it was run by /etc/cron.daily/apt
[03:30] <burning_bronx> hmmm
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> I didn't realize cron updates apt every day
[03:31] <burning_bronx> it does
[03:31] <deltron> it does?
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> yes, it does
[03:31] <mephis1987> uhm
[03:31] <burning_bronx> that's how I get my morning share of updates ~_~;
[03:31] <mephis1987> sorry , what is cron?
[03:31] <mephis1987> i m quite new here
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> cron is a schedular.  It runs things at times
[03:31] <deltron> ah, so it does :)
[03:31] <mephis1987> ah
[03:31] <mephis1987> thanks a lot
[03:31] <burning_bronx> btw today there was this really fat dapper update ~_~
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> good to see things are getting done
[03:32] <burning_bronx> yeh
[03:32] <burning_bronx> and since X.org 7 is officially released we'd probably see it in dapper preeetty soon
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> has the new enlightenment been released yet?
[03:33] <mephis1987> what is the major difference between KDE and Gnome ?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> mephis1987 > there are lots
[03:33] <mephis1987> why Linus himself to user to use KDE not Gnome
[03:33] <mephis1987> he told user to use KDE
[03:34] <HymnToLife> because he prefers KDE, maybe...
[03:34] <pagan> cool someone installed chatzilla in here
[03:34] <Seveas> burning_bronx, s/soon/already/
[03:34] <holycow> *hmmm*
[03:34] <freeby> beacause gnome is ubuntu
[03:34] <burning_bronx> Seveas?
[03:34] <mephis1987> :d
[03:34] <mephis1987> gnome is ubuntu ?
[03:34] <NeuralNet> the eletric energie stoped when i was upgrading
[03:34] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, using gnome or KDE is a matter of choice
[03:34] <Seveas> burning_bronx, Xorg 7 is already landing in Dapper
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> mephis1987: why don't you discover the differences for yourself?  Install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop on the same machine, and choose which one when you log in
[03:34] <NeuralNet> and pat now give errors
[03:34] <mephis1987> wow
[03:35] <burning_bronx> Seveas, I know I am running the latest RC
[03:35] <irvin> Seveas, hey you're back!
[03:35] <burning_bronx> but the official release is out now
[03:35] <NeuralNet> root@host:/home/user# apt-get upgrade
[03:35] <NeuralNet> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:35] <mephis1987> how can i install KDE
[03:35] <yatesy> theres plenty more than just KDE and Gnome you know :P
[03:35] <Seveas> irvin, no, that's just your imagination
[03:35] <mephis1987> pls help
[03:35] <NeuralNet> root@host:/home/user# dpkg --configure -a
[03:35] <NeuralNet> dpkg: errore di formato, nel file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0013' vicino alla riga 1:
[03:35] <NeuralNet>  newline nel nome del campo `padding'
[03:35] <Seveas> mephis1987, apt-get remove --purge brain && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <oma> how can i deny access to the backround properties menu (gnome)?
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> mephis1987: open synaptic, find kubuntu-desktop, and install it
[03:35] <HymnToLife> mephis1987 > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <Seveas> NeuralNet, NEVER paste in here
[03:35] <oma> i know pessulus and sabayon and gconf-editor
[03:35] <yatesy> laff Seveas
[03:35] <irvin> Seveas,  you were missed last CC meeting
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> lol Seveas
[03:36] <holycow> quick tar question ... i tarred up the /media/usbdisk directory, and now when i untar it it is untarring /media/usbdisk/everything else ... this makes sense.  how does one tar/untar the contents of /media/usbdisk for example, so just the contents of the /media/usbdisk is extracted to the target?  how do you strip out the /media/usbdisk if at all?
[03:36] <Seveas> irvin, yes I know, still have to read the logs
[03:36] <rambo3> any ides what program is there to connect to ms-dos intersvr from linux over com port direct cable
[03:36] <NeuralNet> ok i reinstall ubuntu
[03:36] <Seveas> holycow, when tarring you should do: tar -C /media/usbdisk .
[03:36] <Seveas> (the . is needed there)
[03:36] <NeuralNet> for adjust apt e dpkg
[03:36] <holycow> Seveas, i need to preserve permissions so that would be -Cp then?
[03:37] <Seveas> tar -C /media/usbdisk cf backup-of-usbdisk.tar.gz .
[03:37] <Seveas> and the p too indeed
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> holycow: the C has to be followed by the directory.  So, tar -pC
[03:37] <oma> the users must not right klick on gnome desktop, what do i have to change?
[03:37] <NeuralNet> ok
[03:37] <NeuralNet> ciao
[03:37] <holycow> ah! thanks!
[03:37] <oma> the users must not right klick on gnome desktop, what do i have to change? (gnome)
[03:38] <HymnToLife> oma > why not ?
[03:38] <yatesy> err what?!
[03:38] <pagan> how can I tell what version of ubuntu I have? from the CLI
[03:38] <yatesy> oma: what is this, windows? :P
[03:38] <burning_bronx> oma, pretty windowish of you >.>
[03:38] <oma> no
[03:38] <mcphail> oma: give them a MacOS mouse
[03:38] <yatesy> rofl!
[03:38] <oma> lol no they must not change the backround settings ;-)
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> how did #ubuntu get so witty and snyde
[03:38] <Argentino> hola soy de argentina
[03:38] <burning_bronx> people should be able to do whatever inside their user accounts - that's freedom
[03:39] <Argentino> alguien habla espaol
[03:39] <Argentino> ??
[03:39] <Seveas> !es
[03:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:39] <yatesy> oma: so what?
[03:39] <burning_bronx> Argentino, yo >.>
[03:39] <oma> yes but i do not want to deny anything at all ...
[03:39] <selinium> pagan, lsb_release -a  :)
[03:39] <yatesy> oma: if you want a static account then mount the home partition read only or something
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> oma: is there any reason why you don't want people to right-click on it?
[03:39] <pagan> selinium: thanks :)
[03:39] <oma> i want to create a very simple desktop (only 5 options) for my grandparents ;-)
[03:39] <selinium> pagan, np :)
[03:40] <yatesy> don't run gnome then
[03:40] <Lord_Athur> how can I descompress a squashfs file?
[03:40] <Seveas> oma, make their .gnome and .gconf dirs readonly and owned by root :)
[03:40] <Argentino> burning_bronx,  como estas de donde sos?
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: is that really a good idea?
[03:40] <Seveas> Argentino, stick to english in here
[03:40] <pagan> 5.10 breezy
[03:40] <burning_bronx> soy de bulgaria pero estudio espanol
[03:40] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, no
[03:40] <oma> Seveas: It does not work
[03:40] <Argentino> Seveas,  fucking nigger
[03:40] <Seveas> burning_bronx, stick to english in here
[03:40] <pagan> :)
[03:40] <burning_bronx> Seveas, I am not even spanish ;P
[03:41] <oma> no help?
[03:41] <yatesy> oma: if you don't want them to do anything but those 5 tasks, then don't run a complicated window manager
[03:41] <pagan> Argentino: that is entirely unneccessary
[03:41] <Seveas> pagan, he's gone already
[03:41] <yatesy> oma: use something very basic and just have icons on the desktop or something
[03:42] <Seveas> oma, maybe no one knows :)
[03:42] <pagan> good and gone they should be
[03:42] <burning_bronx> oma, you can always concider Seveas' advice >.>
[03:42] <oma> it is no problem to create the .gnome file
[03:42] <john2k> Ubuntu has given my ntfs partitioin the name /media/0 GB Disk (hdb7)   how do i chnage that something easier to type?
[03:42] <Seveas> burning_bronx, it's a bad idea though
[03:42] <Ste1987> is Ubuntu Debian i've always wondered that.....
[03:43] <HymnToLife> john2k > edit your /etc/fstab file
[03:43] <burning_bronx> Ste1987, it's based on Debian, nothing more
[03:43] <Seveas> john2k, /media/hdb7 will also work if you used the script I think you used
[03:43] <oma> but i only want to know how to deactivate the menubar that opens when you do i right click
[03:43] <Seveas> !debian
[03:43] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[03:43] <Seveas> ^-- Ste1987
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> Murdock is such a nerdy name
[03:44] <john2k> Tjhanks Seveas :-)
[03:44] <yatesy> oma: are you even listening? use a basic wm and use idesk or something
[03:44] <burning_bronx> tiglionabbit, we are all nerds in a way
[03:44] <burning_bronx> >.>
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> burning_bronx: I know.  I'm definitely one
[03:44] <christianp> hi all
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> I mean, guess what I'm doing to entertain myself right now?
[03:44] <oma> i know fluxbox etc. but not idesk
[03:44] <yatesy> do we really want to know? :P
[03:45] <burning_bronx> oma, idesk is a desktop for fluxbox
[03:45] <burning_bronx> gives you icons
[03:45] <yatesy> wrong
[03:45] <HymnToLife> tiglionabbit > chatting on a nerdy chan :p
[03:45] <yatesy> its not specific to anything
[03:45] <burning_bronx> am I?
[03:45] <tiglionabbit> I'm writing an ADT in C that uses circular sets of doubly-linked nodes, so you can insert, remove, unlink, and merge them, without any control structures or sentinels
[03:45] <christianp> does anyone can help me in configuring my ubuntu machine to play midi files? (if i can play it with rosegarden4, it whas the best)
[03:45] <oma> can you give me a link to idesk please ?
[03:45] <yatesy> could run it on gnome if u wanted, it'd look silly but still ;)
[03:45] <burning_bronx> yatesy, you are right
[03:45] <yatesy> oma: use google
[03:45] <oma> ^^
[03:45] <burning_bronx> fluxdesk is specific
[03:46] <burning_bronx> >.>
[03:46] <yatesy> ya :)
[03:46] <pagan> <--BIG NERD..or as my wife calls me a BIG TURD LOL :P
[03:46] <yatesy> fascinating
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> your wife calls you that...
[03:46] <HymnToLife> lol
[03:46] <christianp> does anyone can help me in configuring my ubuntu machine to play midi files? (if i can play it with rosegarden4, it was the best)
[03:46] <christianp> :-))
[03:46] <mephis1987> hello
[03:46] <mephis1987>   mount -t type device mountpoint options
[03:46] <mephis1987> r
[03:46] <pagan> uh huh she loves me
[03:46] <mephis1987> what is mount ?
[03:46] <pagan> :)
[03:46] <HymnToLife> christianp > we can read...
[03:46] <Seveas> mephis1987, man mount
[03:46] <mephis1987> what does this command do ?
[03:46] <Seveas> it attaches device to your VFS tree
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> christianp: there's a module you have to load to make rosegarden work.  I forget which one, lemme look it up
[03:46] <burning_bronx> pagan, if you fall in love with a nerd nothing saves you ;)
[03:46] <christianp> HymnToLife, i did a mistake
[03:46] <burning_bronx> that's what they should teach women
[03:46] <burning_bronx> ;P
[03:47] <Seveas> or better: it attaches filesystems to your VFS tree
[03:47] <burning_bronx> cause we are so seksi and inteligent ;p
[03:47] <Ste1987> so Ubuntu is basicly Debian
[03:47] <pagan> burning_bronx: tis true tis soooo true :)
[03:47] <christianp> tiglionabbit, but i can't play midifiles, with no player!!!
[03:47] <HymnToLife> yeah, right you are burning_bronx :p
[03:47] <burning_bronx> Ste1987, Ubuntu is not Debian >.>
[03:47] <tiglionabbit> christianp: rosegarden doesn't play them?
[03:47] <yatesy> Ste1987: its built on debian unstable, with a few additions
[03:47] <pagan> (((_!_)))
[03:47] <christianp> no :-(
[03:47] <burning_bronx> if Ubuntu was Debian I wouldn't be using it
[03:47] <st3f> hello
[03:48] <christianp> rosegarden is an editor
[03:48] <julls> Buenas
[03:48] <Seveas> Ste1987, no, Ubuntu is not basically Debian
[03:48] <Seveas> there are quite a few differences
[03:48] <christianp> but doesn't play
[03:48] <Seveas> read that webpage ubotu gave
[03:48] <Ste1987> unstable no wonder it lags:P
[03:48] <HymnToLife> what's wrong with debian burning_bronx  ?
[03:48] <yatesy> haha yea whatever
[03:48] <burning_bronx> HymnToLife, it's too slow and too stable for me
[03:48] <Ste1987> im using edubuntu
[03:48] <burning_bronx> I like to break things
[03:48] <HymnToLife> lol
[03:48] <phanter> hello. I have problems with skype. I followed that online ubuntuguide. It works for 1 call,, and after that it does not work anymore :(. How could I fix this?
[03:48] <HymnToLife> you're a tr00 g33k :p
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> christianp: um, lets see..   there's something called playmidi I believe
[03:48] <burning_bronx> but so far Dapper is moving too stable - nothing broken and I use it since the start
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> christianp: mplayer plays them
[03:49] <Seveas> phanter, ubuntuguide is not the best source for help...
[03:49] <HymnToLife> oh
[03:49] <HymnToLife> I might consider upgrading to dapper then
[03:49] <phanter> Seveas, that is why I am here now ;-)
[03:49] <burning_bronx> tr00 g33k5 are un1337
[03:49] <Seveas> HymnToLife, it's all very hardware specific whether you get bitten by bugs or not
[03:49] <Ste1987> my terminal won't load up....
[03:49] <burning_bronx> HymnToLife, that it's running fine for some doesn't mean it won't eradicate your system
[03:49] <burning_bronx> ^_^
[03:49] <HymnToLife> hmm ok :p
[03:50] <burning_bronx> but I think there would be less breaks now that Xorg 7 is officially released
[03:50] <burning_bronx> ~_~
[03:50] <Ng> err
[03:50] <Ng> nonsense
[03:50] <Seveas> burning_bronx, fglrx still breaks
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> christianp: do you remember the module it needed?
[03:50] <Ng> it will break randomly until april
[03:50] <Seveas> but that's a kernel issue
[03:50] <phanter> but how can I install skype in the best way? who knows a source that does work?
[03:50] <Ng> if you don't know what you're doing, don't run dapper
[03:51] <burning_bronx> Seveas, I was talking bout Xorg related issues >.>
[03:51] <HymnToLife> phanter > www.skype.com has a .deb file if I remember well
[03:51] <Seveas> phanter, deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas extras
[03:51] <christianp> tiglionabbit, it says "rosegarden sequencer can't initialize module" (or something like this, sorry is an italian message and i try to translate it)
[03:51] <Seveas> the skype.com deb does not work
[03:51] <burning_bronx> Ng, as I said that it didn't kill sum1's system it doesn't mean it won't kill yours
[03:51] <SAM_theman> Morning my little ones
[03:51] <christianp> tiglionabbit, but other player can't play it
[03:52] <burning_bronx> well I just fixed the dependency in the deb skype.com gives
[03:52] <burning_bronx> that works too
[03:52] <christianp> i think there will be a way to configure audio to play midi
[03:52] <mephis1987> oh no
[03:52] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[03:52] <mephis1987> when installing a package
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> christianp: oh.  What you need to do to fix rosegarden is say "sudo modprobe snd-seq".  Lemme figure out where to put that so it runs at startup
[03:52] <mephis1987> i accidentaly press ctrl C
[03:52] <mephis1987> now it stops
[03:52] <burning_bronx> >.>
[03:53] <burning_bronx> <.<
[03:53] <MagicFab> hello
[03:53] <Seveas> burning_bronx, that is exactly the dif.. between the official deb and the one I pointed to :)
[03:53] <tRSS> i am trying to follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510, but I would appreciate some help regarding a few things. Can some help me out with a few problems
[03:53] <mephis1987> how can i make it continues?
[03:53] <mephis1987> :((
[03:53] <Seveas> mephis1987, dpkg --configure --pending && apt-get -f install
[03:53] <mephis1987> hope it works
[03:53] <MagicFab> Can anybody explain what exactly is "upstream" when talking about bugtrackers ?
[03:53] <burning_bronx> Seveas, I have a folder where I collect the deb files I manually fixed >.>
[03:53] <burning_bronx> <.<
[03:54] <Ste1987> Seveas can you tell me how to fix my terminal it keeps loading up then closing itself
[03:54] <burning_bronx> anyway newbies should use EasyUbuntu
[03:54] <MagicFab> Particularly here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam (Bug squashing)
[03:54] <burning_bronx> it has a skype install option
[03:54] <pinkisntwellll> I'm trying to share a folder with two ubuntu computers and it doesn't show up in the network, why?
[03:54] <mephis1987> phew it works , thanks all
[03:54] <mephis1987> EasyUbuntu
[03:55] <christianp> tiglionabbit, i add it with modconf
[03:55] <Seveas> Ste1987, dunno what you did
[03:55] <mephis1987> i never heard og it
[03:55] <faslly> hey guys, i urgently need to connect to a samba share on another linux box in my network
[03:55] <Seveas> burning_bronx, no, easyubuntu is evil
[03:55] <christianp> now i have no error on rosegarden startup, but i hear nothing :-(
[03:55] <burning_bronx> mephis1987, it's a tool that installs most of the common goodies >.>
[03:55] <pinkisntwellll> faslly: me too lol
[03:55] <Seveas> such crappy scripts have already triggered lots of reinstalls
[03:55] <burning_bronx> Seveas, is it?
[03:55] <faslly> it's on 192.168.1.3
[03:55] <burning_bronx> I only took a look at the features
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> christianp: that's right.  or modules.autoload
[03:55] <burning_bronx> I had most of them installed by hand
[03:55] <mephis1987> Seveas burning_bronx, no, easyubuntu is evil?
[03:55] <faslly> i can ping it
[03:55] <mephis1987> is it right?
[03:55] <ishit> why is cdrdao needed for k3b
[03:55] <psusi> shouldn't grep -e '.*[^/] ' match lines that do not end in a '/'?
[03:55] <faslly> but i can't ping the computer name "arnie"!
[03:55] <Seveas> burning_bronx, in here we take a look at the results and lots of people needed to reinstall after using such scripts
[03:56] <christianp> tiglionabbit, but i can't understand why i hear nothing
[03:56] <pagan>  Rugglens wee roun ridlums reek briskly they say its a lovely brite lit moonlit nite tonite so come and shout hooray its easy to learn as your tongue will rise a blister rugglins we roun ridlums reek briskly its a twister. :P
[03:56] <christianp> other file, like mp3 are right
[03:56] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with Thunderbird.I've received an e-mail and Thunderbird signs that there's an attachment with it, but I don't know how open it. Anybody can help me?
[03:56] <burning_bronx> I've heard good thins bout it especially after it's merge with Autowhateveritwas
[03:56] <burning_bronx> haven't tried it
[03:56] <ishit> wat is cdrdao
[03:56] <psusi> Alex_BO: click on the attachment name
[03:56] <faslly> on the default gnome menu -> Places -> Network Servers
[03:56] <holycow> *hmmm*
[03:57] <faslly> finds a "Windows Network"
[03:57] <Seveas> burning_bronx, btw: debs you fixed? Care to share the fixes?
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> christianp: dunno..   not working for me either
[03:57] <faslly> i double click on it and this machine and the one i want to get files off is are not present
[03:57] <burning_bronx> Seveas, most of them are dapper packages not yet upgraded to meet the new dependencies
[03:57] <Alex_BO> psusi, I can't! When i open the message in a new windows I can see any attachments... it's strange because I've ever opened attachments before very well.
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> christianp: your best bet is searching http://ubuntuforums.org for answers.  That's what I'm doing
[03:58] <christianp> ok, tiglionabbit thanks a lot
[03:58] <psusi> Alex_BO: don't open the message in a new window... just double click on the attachment
[03:58] <Alex_BO> psusi, if i double-click on the attachment, it opens the message in a new window
[03:59] <psusi> Alex_BO: ohh, is the attachment itself a forwarded email?
[03:59] <Alex_BO> psusi, how can i know it?is there a way?
[03:59] <faslly> it's now asking me to login to a domain and i don't have one
[03:59] <psusi> Alex_BO: if you double click on it and it opens an email, then that's what it is
[03:59] <faslly> ... on the screen mentioned earlier
[04:00] <psusi> Alex_BO: and usually the file name will end in .eml
[04:00] <yatesy> faslly: enter a valid username and password
[04:00] <faslly> yatesy, the same as the standard login?
[04:00] <faslly> linux login...
[04:01] <yatesy> faslly: if a windows machine yes, if its a samba box then whatever your samba password for the user is
[04:01] <Alex_BO> psusi, well...with other e-mails with attachment if i double-click on the clip, it opens the message in a new window. then i have to click on the section "attachment:" but this section in this e-mail there isn't
[04:01] <mcphail> Alex_BO: it sounds as if the text _is_ the attachment
[04:01] <psusi> Alex_BO: yea... the email it opens when you double click on it IS the attachment
[04:02] <Pupeno> Anyone using demudi with ubuntu ?
[04:02] <pagan> Pupeno: What is demudi?
[04:02] <Alex_BO> psusi, uhm...i can forward the message to my e-mail box and open it on the web
[04:02] <psusi> and if there are no attachments snown in the new window, it is because the attached email has no attachments itself
[04:02] <Pupeno> pagan: http://demudi.agnula.org/
[04:02] <jsz__> how do I stop my computer responding to nmaps soit just times out or something and doesn't show any ports and services
[04:03] <jc-denton> hi all
[04:03] <burning_bronx> how do I turn on the air conditionar without moving from the lap
[04:03] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:03] <psusi> Alex_BO: open what on the web?
[04:03] <burning_bronx> <.<
[04:03] <phanter> Seveas, Your skype gives me the same problem. It works once, but then (when trying to make the 2nd call) it gives an error: unable to open sound device
[04:03] <jc-denton> where should i report a bug concerning breezy?
[04:03] <jc-denton> there is launchpad and bugzilla..
[04:03] <Seveas> phanter, lsof /dev/dsp
[04:03] <pagan> okay I got it thanks :D
[04:03] <jc-denton> or can i send it via email?
[04:03] <Pupeno> jsz__: you need to do some firewalling. Dependen on you level/indended lever of knowledge, you can use iptables by hand or another program that sets up your firewall (like guarddog).
[04:04] <mcphail> phanter: Seveas has put skype_dsp_hijacker in his repo. Use it.
[04:04] <unf> hasta luego
[04:04] <[101] > Pupeno, can you tell me the iptables string?
[04:04] <mcphail> (this is a well known bug)
[04:04] <Alex_BO> psusi, i opened it on web but there isn't any attachment.thunderbird is crazy ;-)
[04:04] <Pupeno> [101] : strings ? you mean, commands ?
[04:04] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get install real-life
[04:04] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get install girlfriend
[04:05] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:05] <[101] > yes
[04:05] <burning_bronx> sudo mount /dev/girlfriend /mnt/bed
[04:05] <burning_bronx> sudo sh sex.sh
[04:05] <dave> :D
[04:05] <psusi> Alex_BO: from the sounds of it... it is you who is crazy... what do you think is attached to this message?  what kidn of file?
[04:05] <yatesy> "permission denied"
[04:05] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:05] <Pupeno> [101] : not really, it depends on your system (software/hardware), there are good tutorials/howtos about that.
[04:05] <burning_bronx> shit!
[04:05] <jc-denton> !
[04:05] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, jc-denton
[04:05] <psusi> Alex_BO: because from what you have described, the only thing attached to the message is another message
[04:05] <HymnToLife> /dev/girlfriend already mounted :p
[04:06] <psusi> jc-denton: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:06] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:06] <burning_bronx> <.<
[04:06] <jc-denton> so not launchpad
[04:06] <jc-denton> ?
[04:06] <Alex_BO> psusi, thank you! you are so nice.... ;-)   however...if there is an attachments, it can be ONLY a pic
[04:06] <psusi> Alex_BO: you have managed to open a picture attachment in this message when you forward it to your webmail account?
[04:07] <burning_bronx> a whole day wasted on open sourceness
[04:07] <Alex_BO> psusi, there weren't any attachments
[04:07] <Pupeno> worst thing: sudo mount /dev/girlfriend /mnt/bed.... IO error!
[04:07] <burning_bronx> I feel like a geek now
[04:07] <burning_bronx> a broken pipe error is worse if you ask me
[04:07] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:07] <psusi> Alex_BO: ok... so if there aren't any attachments, that is why you can't open one ;)
[04:07] <yatesy> you might have to recompile your kernel before she is detected ;P
[04:08] <Alex_BO> psusi, why thunderbird signs me an attachment?
[04:08] <burning_bronx> yes but if the girlfriend device is virgin type then you may get kernel panic
[04:08] <burning_bronx> <.<
[04:08] <holycow> tar -pCcvvf foo.tar /media/usbdisk/  <-- this is obviously wrong, what is the tar command supposed to look like?  goal: preserver permissions + tar only the contents of the folder so that you don't extract /media/usbdisk but just the contents?
[04:08] <psusi> Alex_BO: what do yuo mean "signs" you an attachment?  it shows there is an attachment because there is one... it just happens to be another message
[04:08] <HymnToLife> yeah, you have to run mkfs on her first :p
[04:09] <psusi> Alex_BO: most likely because someone forwarded you the message which they got from somewhere else
[04:09] <psusi> Alex_BO: most mail clients will simply attach the original message to a new one when you choose to forward
[04:09] <yatesy> HymnToLife: with a sutible b..... lock size ;P
[04:09] <pappan> how do i get the ubuntu kernel source from my linux machine
[04:09] <yatesy> pappan: install the package
[04:09] <Alex_BO> psusi, i mean a clip under the attachment column. it's impossible that this message was forwarded
[04:09] <HymnToLife> pappan > sudo apt-get install linux-source-<kernel version>
[04:09] <burning_bronx> damn korky linux humour
[04:10] <kervel> hello, i'm using kubuntu, and it seems there are twoo handlers for plug&play events that conflict: when i insert a cdrom, konqueror opens (/media/hdc), and i get a dialog (do you want to open). In addition to that, the cdrom is mounted automatically on a location that conflicts with konqueror (konq wants /media/hdc, it gets mounted on /media/cdrom)
[04:10] <kervel> i guess thats a configuration problem
[04:10] <psusi> holycow: you mean you want to archive everything in /dir but not have /dir be part of the path in the archive so it isn't created when you extract it?
[04:10] <pappan> not apt-get is not there since i am running another distor of linux now
[04:10] <holycow> psusi, exactly
[04:10] <mcphail> pappan: then you need another irc channel
[04:10] <burning_bronx> lol
[04:10] <yatesy> muppet
[04:10] <psusi> Alex_BO: if it shows a file name at the bottom and you double click on it and a new message window opens, then the message you are now looking at was sent to you as an attachment... most likely because it was forwarded
[04:11] <pappan> mcphail: which one ?
[04:11] <HymnToLife> pappan > then searh for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <yatesy> pappan: what are you running?
[04:11] <psusi> holycow: cd /dir then tar
[04:11] <kervel> also, when i insert an usb stick, konqueror wants to mount it at /media/sda, but fails because it is already mounted on /media/256MB
[04:11] <Alex_BO> psusi, no way.it DON'T show a file name on the bottom.it shows ONLY a clip pic on the main page
[04:12] <pappan> HymnToLife: ty got it
[04:12] <HymnToLife> you're welcome :)
[04:12] <jenda> I need urgent holp on networking: A friend is over with a lappy that has a Windows partition and a Linux partition (we don't know the password)... We need to copy a few things we need to copy from my Linux box to the lappy. Anyone have an idea?
[04:12] <kervel> oops, i see there is a separate channel for kubuntu. i'm going to try there ...
[04:12] <HymnToLife> jenda > you don't know which password ?
[04:13] <jenda> HymnToLife: the Linux one on the lappy
[04:13] <psusi> Alex_BO: I think that thunderbird shows the paperclip when you get a multipart message that contains both plain text and html
[04:13] <psusi> Alex_BO: maybe that's what you have
[04:13] <can-o-worms> does anyone know if there is a java 5.0 deb kicking around somewhere?
[04:13] <burning_bronx> can-o-worms, I have one
[04:13] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[04:13] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:14] <HymnToLife> jenda > thenboot the lap on windows, share a folder with rw access and copy the files on it from your ubuntu
[04:14] <psusi> Alex_BO: at any rate... if there are no attachments, ignore the paper clip
[04:14] <Alex_BO> psusi, yes...i didn't think on it...it can be.okay, thank you very much.you were very kind
[04:14] <Alex_BO> psusi, bye!
[04:14] <holycow> psusi, so manually cd to it ... tar cannot be told to cd it from another file system then?
[04:14] <bobbyd> hi
[04:14] <burning_bronx> my hands are cold
[04:14] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: where did you get it?
[04:14] <burning_bronx> I will put on some gloves
[04:15] <bobbyd> is it possible to set up my server PC as a wireless access point if I install a wifi card in it?
[04:15] <burning_bronx> can-o-worms, I made it for my self anyway check the URL
[04:15] <burning_bronx> !javadebs
[04:15] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:15] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: thanks
[04:15] <psusi> holycow: I am not aware of a parameter to tar to ask it to cd first... there might be one, but it easy enough to just cd first
[04:15] <alterim> can someone tell me why my firefox think 1.0.7 is the latest version?
[04:15] <jenda> HymnToLife: How do I do that from Ubuntu?
[04:15] <alterim> and tells me no updates are available when i check for updates?
[04:15] <holycow> psusi, good enough, a different way to think about the problem ... easiest too
[04:15] <gnomefreak> alterim, cause it is the latest version in ubuntu repositories
[04:15] <yatesy> alterim: you have to upgrade to 1.5 yourself
[04:15] <burning_bronx> hmmmm
[04:15] <HymnToLife> jenda > places > network servers
[04:15] <HymnToLife> !firefox1.5
[04:15] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:16] <burning_bronx> still I see the javadebs on this site has update4
[04:16] <burning_bronx> and it's already @ update6
[04:16] <jenda> HymnToLife:places > network servers > Win network > 0 files
[04:16] <alterim> oh i see
[04:16] <holycow> psusi, sorry one more question is tar -pcvvf foo.tar foo correct? is the -p in the right place?
[04:16] <zosologist> anyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?
[04:16] <HymnToLife> funny...
[04:16] <HymnToLife> do you have samba installed ?
[04:16] <alterim> i thought that when you clicked on check for updates in firefox that would actually check the mozilla site not the repositories ?
[04:16] <psusi> holycow: wait... I just checked the man page.. looks like -C tells tar to change directories ;)
[04:17] <jenda> HymnToLife: not yot..
[04:17] <burning_bronx> alterim, it checks the breezy repos
[04:17] <alterim> when i click check for updates in firefox xp, it doesn't go and check windowsupdate
[04:17] <gnomefreak> alterim, no its not an update its a seprate browser
[04:17] <HymnToLife> jenda > then it should work fine...
[04:17] <alterim> hmm, so it's a separate browser, doesn't give me much info, that
[04:17] <burning_bronx> when you install an Ubuntu all the apps on it are frozen version-wise untill the next ubuntu release
[04:17] <burning_bronx> there are only
[04:17] <burning_bronx> A) security updates
[04:17] <alterim> oh, ok
[04:17] <burning_bronx> B) backports
[04:17] <jenda> HymnToLife: wait... should I install Samba?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> alterim, you cant update to it you have to install it
[04:17] <holycow> psusi, i can't figure out how to use the -C switch ... your suggestion to keep it simple stupid seems to be working
[04:18] <psusi> holycow: btw... if you are running tar as root, -p is automatic.. and the order doesn't matter
[04:18] <burning_bronx> backports my include newer software packages
[04:18] <burning_bronx> *may
[04:18] <HymnToLife> jenda > it should work well without it
[04:18] <burning_bronx> but not firefox as I know of
[04:18] <alterim> so why doesn't 1.5 get put into the repos?
[04:18] <jenda> HymnToLife: it don't
[04:18] <alterim> like most new versions do?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> the backports dont include FF1.5 and wont for a while
[04:18] <holycow> psusi, ah just checking, okay that makes sense.
[04:18] <burning_bronx> alterim, it's in the development branch repos
[04:18] <Ng> alterim: only security/important bug fixes go into a stable release
[04:18] <holycow> thanks for the tips, appreciate it
[04:18] <HymnToLife> is the network working
[04:18] <HymnToLife> I mean, can you ping the other comp
[04:19] <jenda> HymnToLife: how?
[04:19] <psusi> holycow: going by the man page... it shoul be as easy as adding -C foo to the command line
[04:19] <alterim> ok cool
[04:19] <HymnToLife> jenda > ping <ip adress> in a terminal
[04:19] <alterim> can someone tell me if there's any more windows switchers available for gnome, other than window list and window selector?
[04:20] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:20] <alterim> i'd like a mac style window selector menu, that doesn't mind increasing it's icon size when i make a panel bigger...
[04:20] <zosologist> anyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?
[04:20] <viller> hi
[04:20] <burning_bronx> alterim, get a mac? o_O;
[04:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:20] <alterim> well i have one
[04:21] <burning_bronx> and I don't cause I am poor
[04:21] <burning_bronx> :X
[04:21] <alterim> i'd not like to get another, but i WOULD like to customise my ubuntu
[04:21] <zosologist> anyone?
[04:21] <zosologist> anyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?
[04:21] <viller> how to unhide .file in the terminal?
[04:21] <zosologist> well not slow but starts and stops wierd
[04:21] <psusi> viller: ls -a
[04:21] <HymnToLife> viller > Ctrl+H
[04:21] <burning_bronx> alterim, have you tried googlin'?
[04:22] <alterim> yeah
[04:22] <alterim> didn't find much
[04:22] <alterim> i don't really know what sort of thing it's called
[04:23] <Stormx2> Hi
[04:23] <alterim> i just hate these xp style window lists, the menu one would be ok but you increase a panel size to say, 48 pixels, and the piddly little icon stays the same
[04:23] <burning_bronx> that should be window manager related
[04:24] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:24] <burning_bronx> Not sure tho
[04:24] <greenpenguin13> how would i tell grub to re-detect the distros that should be on menu.lst?
[04:25] <psusi> greenpenguin13: update-grub
[04:25] <greenpenguin13> thanks :)
[04:25] <gnomefreak> he should beable to go to preff. and windows and change the style  from a given what 20 styles or something like that
[04:25] <phaer_> does anybody know, how i can install new ttf-fonts?
[04:25] <mcphail> alterim: have you tried gdesklets? They do hog a lot of resources, however.
[04:25] <phaer_> ( i've just got the ttf-files
[04:26] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[04:26] <phaer_> ( need them for openoffice and the flashplayer )
[04:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:26] <greenpenguin13> no i still dont get foresight instead of suse :/
[04:26] <burning_bronx> I made an eyecandy desktop with gdesklets loaded and it wasn't suckin' the resources that bad
[04:26] <gnomefreak> hell i installed xpenguins and i cant find them :(
[04:27] <burning_bronx> have you tried typing locate xpenguins in the terminal?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> no why would i do that that would make sense :(
[04:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:27] <Lukian> after typing 'sudo updatedb' :p
[04:27] <gnomefreak> ill brb gonna change to ubuntu
[04:28] <Denstark> ahh
[04:28] <alterim> no i haven't
[04:29] <alterim> so, how do i install this firefox then?
[04:29] <Denstark> i think ubuntu is not as good as windows
[04:29] <greenpenguin13> ahem
[04:29] <alterim> of course it's bloody not
[04:29] <burning_bronx> it is not as good as windows unless you make it
[04:29] <burning_bronx> if you know what you're doing it's times better
[04:30] <alterim> yeah
[04:30] <Ng> Denstark: then make it better :)
[04:30] <alterim> lol
[04:30] <Ng> alterim: if you want to install 1.5 see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page
[04:30] <alterim> ableton live on linux... hmm
[04:30] <alterim> lots better
[04:30] <alterim> ok, cheers Ng
[04:30] <psusi> of course it isn't... it doesn't crash half as much!
[04:30] <burning_bronx> yep yep
[04:30] <Denstark> burning_bronx, you dont know what your taslking about
[04:30] <Ng> this is not the place to discuss which OS you prefer
[04:31] <Ng> that would be #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:31] <psusi> the crashing alone makes windows clearly better ;)
[04:31] <alterim> lol
[04:31] <pinkisntwell> what the heck? ubuntu put my home folder on the network as a share and now I can't remove it!
[04:31] <Ng> this is for ubuntu questions
[04:31] <burning_bronx> Denstark, been using Windows 3.1, Windows 95/98, Windows ME/2000 and windows XP
[04:31] <burning_bronx> so yes
[04:31] <burning_bronx> I know what I am talking about
[04:31] <Denstark> windows meadia player rocks
[04:31] <alterim> uboutu, TELL Denstark why i really need to get outside a little more
[04:31] <mcphail> DNFTT
[04:31] <burning_bronx> VLC rox wmp
[04:31] <alterim> lol..
[04:31] <burning_bronx> Totem rox wmp
[04:31] <burning_bronx> everything rox wmp
[04:31] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:31] <Lukian> Totem doesn't work
[04:32] <alterim> winamp rox Totem
[04:32] <Lukian> "omg! video in use. exiting!"
[04:32] <Denstark> ie > firefox
[04:32] <psusi> try totem-xine
[04:32] <burning_bronx> Xmms/BMP own winamp
[04:32] <alterim> lol
[04:32] <burning_bronx> Lukian, it works if you know how to make it owrk
[04:32] <burning_bronx> *work
[04:32] <Absolute0> is there a way i can start the ubuntu installation with a floppy and then mount the iso from a differrent partition?
[04:32] <alterim> by the time you've set it up you've realised you haven't got any kind of life
[04:32] <psusi> winamp, it really whips the lama's ass
[04:32] <burning_bronx> Everything > IE
[04:32] <Lukian> burning_bronx: any help with that issue then?
[04:33] <burning_bronx> Lukian,  as psusi said you should install totem-xine
[04:33] <Denstark> ie is good if you know how to use it bronx
[04:33] <Lukian> burning_bronx: that means that IE is greater than itself
[04:33] <psusi> Absolute0: not officially... why would you want to?  just boot from the cd
[04:33] <Absolute0> by burned is broken
[04:33] <burning_bronx> Lukian, then Everythin >= IE
[04:33] <rain_> can i read with ubuntu linux ntfs file sytem_
[04:33] <Absolute0> :/
[04:33] <Absolute0> *burner
[04:33] <psusi> floopies are obsolete... burn them, and let them rest in pieces
[04:33] <HymnToLife> rain_ > yes
[04:33] <burning_bronx> I haven't used floppies since win98
[04:33] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:34] <burning_bronx> and those were dark ages
[04:34] <greenpenguin13> anyone? i need to re-detect all the distros for grub
[04:34] <burning_bronx> XD
[04:34] <Ng> who cares
[04:34] <psusi> rain_: read? yes... write?  no
[04:34] <Absolute0> i dont think that information is helping me
[04:34] <HymnToLife> sure
[04:34] <christianp> can anyone help me in findinf automatix? all the link bring to ubuntuforum, but i can't fiund where to download it!!!
[04:34] <HymnToLife> I had win 98 FE, the CD wouldn't boot
[04:34] <Lukian> psusi: burning_bronx: ty, installing now
[04:34] <HymnToLife> you had to boot from a floppy :p
[04:34] <bobbyd> psusi, not true
[04:34] <burning_bronx> Lukian, I would suggest you install vlc better
[04:34] <rain_> does anyone know simekind of docs about it id try to manage myself
[04:34] <burning_bronx> it is pretty lightweight and has integrated support for almost any media format out there
[04:34] <psusi> bobbyd: what is not true?
[04:35] <Lukian> burning_bronx: already have
[04:35] <burning_bronx> like it?
[04:35] <HymnToLife> VLC rules
[04:35] <bobbyd> psusi, rain_ , http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[04:35] <burning_bronx> VLC owns the lama's ass >.>
[04:35] <Lukian> i use it under windows as my only* video player.
[04:35] <labandus> hi men
[04:35] <pinkisntwell> ubuntu put my home folder on the network as a share and now I can't remove it!
[04:35] <HymnToLife> i use it under linux as my only media player as well :p
[04:35] <labandus> good to back
[04:35] <psusi> bobbyd: no thanks... I don't trust microsoft drivers under windows... trying to run them under linux is just insane ;)
[04:35] <labandus> good to be back
[04:35] <Lukian> HymnToLife: dvd's too?
[04:35] <bobbyd> psusi, works just fine
[04:35] <HymnToLife> yep
[04:36] <labandus> I 'am looking for a file Sharing Programm
[04:36] <rain_> thanx
[04:36] <burning_bronx> labandus, use Samba
[04:36] <psusi> bobbyd: there is a reason why it isn't officially supported ;)
[04:36] <labandus> as gtk-ghutella
[04:36] <bobbyd> psusi, I used it to recover data from a physically broken Windows NTFS drive
[04:36] <burning_bronx> ah
[04:36] <burning_bronx> you mean P2P
[04:36] <zosologist> anyone help me with my wifi
[04:36] <zosologist> ?
[04:36] <burning_bronx> ~_~;
[04:36] <zosologist> anyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?
[04:36] <bobbyd> psusi, of course, it's a licensing issue
[04:36] <psusi> bobbyd: ntfsclone is good for that
[04:36] <labandus> burning_bronx,  as gtk-gnutella
[04:36] <Absolute0> how about this: i have a kubunut cd after doing apt-get install ubunutu-desktop will i get the same thing as a regular ubuntu installation would give me?
[04:37] <labandus> burning_bronx, g as edonkey for windows
[04:37] <Ng> labandus: gtk-gnutella is in ubuntu, or there's things like amule
[04:37] <burning_bronx> tried amule?
[04:37] <psusi> bobbyd: not really... they don't distribute the driver.. you have to grab a copy from your windows install
[04:37] <burning_bronx> gtk-gnutella + amule = p2p ownage
[04:37] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:37] <labandus>  gtk-gnutella works very bad
[04:37] <Lukian> i'll give you a mule! *shakes fist*
[04:37] <alterim> lol @ the FirefoxNewVersion wiki
[04:38] <alterim> compared to installing it on xp
[04:38] <alterim> hahaha
[04:38] <bobbyd> psusi, still, most distros wouldn't touch it simply because it uses propietory MS files
[04:38] <DeepBlueGhost> absolute0: Not exactly, you'll still have KDE and the rest...
[04:38] <alterim> better ;)
[04:38] <Absolute0> whats wrong with limewire?
[04:38] <labandus> burning_bronx,   gtk-gnutella works very bad
[04:38] <psusi> bobbyd: yup... which is why I don't either ;)
[04:38] <pinkisntwell> gtk is fine. you forgot azureus people
[04:38] <labandus> i'm looking for another Programm
[04:38] <bobbyd> psusi, ok, so it is a licensing thing :)
[04:39] <Absolute0> this room is wierd
[04:39] <alterim> is there a way i can install firefox 1.5 without using the command line
[04:39] <burning_bronx> labandus, tried amule?
[04:39] <alterim> ??
[04:39] <Ng> alterim: no
[04:39] <psusi> bobbyd: no... when you say it is a licensing thing, you are saying that you need to obtain a license to do it... you don't
[04:39] <oxez> alterim: cli > everything :o
[04:39] <burning_bronx> alterim, why are you so scared of the command line?
[04:39] <burning_bronx> You gotta love the cmd
[04:39] <burning_bronx> cli owns the world
[04:39] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:39] <labandus> burning_bronx, where can get I???
[04:39] <burning_bronx> labandus, synaptic search amule?
[04:39] <burning_bronx> or just sudo apt-get install amule
[04:39] <bobbyd> psusi, no, I'm saying that the distros don't like using closed source code under a proprietory licence, so they dont :)
[04:40] <labandus> burning_bronx, ok i'm trying
[04:40] <alterim> because i'd like to have a life away from the computer
[04:40] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail
[04:40] <Ng> alterim: then use the firefox that's already installed
[04:40] <alterim> i actually want to install a web browser
[04:40] <alterim> not use a command line
[04:40] <burning_bronx> alterim do a sudo apt-get remove real-life
[04:40] <burning_bronx> ur into linux now boy
[04:40] <burning_bronx> xD
[04:40] <alterim> i'm not into linux, i'm just trying an alternative operating system because i dislike the look and feel of xp
[04:41] <DeepBlueGhost> command lines are not to be feared...
[04:41] <burning_bronx> XP deprives users of freedom
[04:41] <labandus> burning_bronx, it's been downloaded
[04:41] <psusi> bobbyd: then say it uses proprietary software, which nobody likes... not the same as a licencing issue... mp3 has licencing issues... but lame is open source
[04:41] <burning_bronx> labandus, installeth?
[04:41] <alterim> XP enables me to run ableton live and various other audio apps, of which i use to produce my main income
[04:41] <Ng> alterim: ubuntu has a clear policy about releasing updates and that is that they only include security and important bug fixes - the new version will be included and easy to install in the next release, which is april
[04:41] <labandus> burning_bronx, i will start with the installation
[04:41] <labandus> burning_bronx, now
[04:41] <burning_bronx> labandus, didn't you do sudo apt-get install totem-xine ?
[04:42] <alterim> ok, cool Ng, but is it possible for me to install 1.5, relatively easily?
[04:42] <aeon17x> alterim: then stay with XP.
[04:42] <alterim> of course i will stay with xp
[04:42] <burning_bronx> !firefox
[04:42] <ubotu> firefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> Ng could you help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail when you get time
[04:42] <alterim> i am doing this aswell as
[04:42] <burning_bronx> !firefox1.5
[04:42] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:42] <burning_bronx> alterim, don't move
[04:43] <burning_bronx> don't breathe too
[04:43] <alterim> i just looked at the aforementioned link, and it's ridiculously long winded
[04:43] <Ng> alterim: unless anyone has backported it, there is either download the tarball from firefox's site and do it all yourself, or use the NewVersion wiki page. This may seem inconvenient, but overall I would say it's best to stick with the default Ubuntu versions and not care so much about always running the very latest version of things - as you said yourself, you want a life
[04:43] <labandus> burning_bronx, i did it ...
[04:43] <Lukian> alterim: and for good reason, 1.5 is a pos :)
[04:43] <HymnToLife> or get opera :p
[04:43] <burning_bronx> labandus, does it work now?
[04:43] <Ng> Lukian: he didn't ask for opinions and this isn't the place to give them :p
[04:43] <tRSS> what might be causing this:  KRB5 error code 68 while getting initial credentials
[04:44] <alterim> sure, i'm just used to 1.5 on xp, the menus and stuff are a bit different
[04:44] <tmjb> anyone know where to find firebird2 amd64 its seems that does not exist in universe
[04:44] <alterim> that's the main reason i wanted to upgrade really
[04:44] <HymnToLife> firebird ?
[04:44] <labandus> burning_bronx, yeah my TOTEM xine is working very well
[04:44] <burning_bronx> ;)
[04:44] <burning_bronx> cheers then friend
[04:44] <HymnToLife> isn't it thunderfox ? :p
[04:44] <tmjb> HymnToLife: firebird sql
[04:44] <HymnToLife> ih damn, sorry :p
[04:44] <labandus> but i've a got a little with this "amule"
[04:44] <burning_bronx> Ng, there is ofcourse the detail that the default  firefox in breezy is a lot heavier resource-wise than the new 1.5
[04:44] <burning_bronx> performance in 1.5 is a lot better
[04:45] <the_mr_bong_show> whats firebird
[04:45] <labandus> i'm getting any connection to server
[04:45] <catalinux> can someone tell in which repository I can find mysql-server-5.1?
[04:45] <alterim> ok, well, i would still like to upgrade to 1.5, i guess the only way is to follow the wiki
[04:45] <Lukian> HymnToLife: smart  man
[04:45] <alterim> it's just a shame i can't double click firefoxsetup.exe or something
[04:45] <alterim> it should be that easy, you know
[04:45] <burning_bronx> the firebird project was renamed to firefox
[04:45] <burning_bronx> it was phoenix in the beginning
[04:46] <Lukian> alterim: it will be, when it's final and stable.
[04:46] <burning_bronx> alterim, linux is not windows
[04:46] <Ng> alterim: well it's not going to be any time soon, linux doesn't work like that
[04:46] <Rawplayer> !=FFS
[04:46] <ubotu> Rawplayer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:46] <Rawplayer> o dear
[04:46] <alterim> hmm i know.. shame
[04:46] <Rawplayer> ;p
[04:46] <tmjb> but no amd64 why ?http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/firebird2
[04:46] <Ng> alterim: if you want to fix it, go right ahead. we are here to help people, not get ranted at ;)
[04:46] <burning_bronx> catalinux, mysql 5 hasn't been done yet
[04:46] <alterim> and it's for this reason that windows will continue to dominate
[04:46] <burning_bronx> not even in the dapper dev branch
[04:46] <burning_bronx> I mean it hasn't been repackaged for ubuntu
[04:47] <alterim> well i thought a few thousand developers, that don't really leave their bedrooms that much would have had it sorted after a few years, you know
[04:47] <burning_bronx> you may try compiling it from source if you are eager to try it
[04:47] <catalinux> burning_bronx: dev.mysql.com :d
[04:47] <Ng> alterim: you still seem to be ranting ;)
[04:47] <alterim> yeah, i am, sorry
[04:47] <Ng> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to
[04:47] <Ng> or use the energy to help fix it
[04:47] <burning_bronx> alterim, we've heard hundreds like you
[04:47] <alterim> i bet you have!
[04:47] <burning_bronx> it's just not the way linux works - figure it out
[04:47] <catalinux> burning_bronx: "MySQL 5.0 is Here!" <--- copy from the site
[04:47] <burning_bronx> you have to learn new things
[04:48] <burning_bronx> catalinux, where's that?
[04:48] <mcphail> alterim: try this - it might work...
[04:48] <burning_bronx> give me a credible link
[04:48] <catalinux> burning_bronx: dev.mysql.com
[04:48] <Ng> catalinux: mysql5 is not in the ubuntu repositories yet
[04:48] <burning_bronx> ...
[04:48] <trappist> alterim: a distro puts out a stable release.  new versions of software come out.  in the interest of stability, bugfixes and security updates get backported, but new versions are generally reserved for the next release.  most distros do this, and those that don't aren't generally considered stable.
[04:48] <burning_bronx> yes catalinux it is out
[04:48] <burning_bronx> but it is not repackaged for ubuntu
[04:48] <catalinux> burning_bronx: I used it on debian, but on ubuntu only the 4.1 version is available
[04:48] <burning_bronx> I know
[04:48] <alterim> yeah that's reasonable enough
[04:48] <Ng> catalinux: you can rebuild the debian packages for ubuntu if you want
[04:49] <burning_bronx> you won't see it in breezy unless they backport it
[04:49] <burning_bronx> you can compile it on your own
[04:49] <trappist> though I *am* surprised firefox-1.5 isn't in backports
[04:49] <alterim> but you've got this really stable operating system that doesn't actually do anything apart from create hobbies
[04:49] <psusi> trappist: me too
[04:49] <alterim> a bit of real life functionality might be cool
[04:49] <catalinux> burning_bronx: yes, that's what I'll do
[04:49] <burning_bronx> trappist, there are reasons for firefox 1.5 not being in the backports
[04:49] <burning_bronx> it has been stated by jdong I think
[04:49] <seannyob> is anyone running 64 bits?  i am considering switching to ubuntu and i have some questions, if anyone running 64 is interested in talking about it
[04:50] <psusi> seannyob: I am
[04:50] <catalinux> seannyob: me too
[04:50] <mcphail> seannyob: yes
[04:50] <Ng> alterim: you can always ask for a refund ;)
[04:50] <seannyob> wow
[04:50] <alterim> i'm trying linux because xp is awful, and i don't like having any sort of networking on it
[04:50] <HymnToLife> lol ng
[04:50] <burning_bronx> alterim, linux is functional
[04:50] <alterim> i just want to use linux for usenet, and web
[04:50] <Ng> alterim: and you can do both of those already, thus it is functional
[04:51] <burning_bronx> actually the main goal of linux is functionality
[04:51] <Ng> even if it is perhaps inconvenient in some places
[04:51] <seannyob> okey dokey.  i have an athlon64 and i got gentoo 64 running, but it didn't seem ready for prime time to me as a desktop/multimedia system.  so i've been running 32 for a year.
[04:51] <burning_bronx> but being functional and being easy are not always the same
[04:51] <psusi> my cousin who knows very little about computers just wanted to do email and web... his windows got all hosed up as usual so I installed ubuntu for him... he loved it
[04:51] <mcphail> seannyob: 64 bit is for masochists
[04:51] <psusi> no popups, no spyware... no need to fetch drivers for this and that
[04:51] <burning_bronx> I've been spreading Ubuntu CDs all around my school
[04:51] <burning_bronx> ppl are liking it
[04:51] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:52] <jbroome> nice!  that's better than what usually gets spread around school. :)
[04:52] <tRSS> please please please someone help me with Kerberos, winbind and samba so that I authenticate with win2k3 servers at work
[04:52] <alterim> ok, so if i want to install ff1.5, the easiest way is the wiki.. i'll get to it
[04:52] <burning_bronx> jbroome, it is isn't it ;)
[04:52] <seannyob> i guess the question is...are there 32 bit versions of applications like firefox w/flash, xine/mplayer w/ 32 bit codecs, etc in the 64 bit multiverse &or universe?
[04:52] <psusi> seannyob: as long as you stick purely to open source, 64 bit is fine... you do run into trouble though when you try to use proprietary stuff like w32 codecs, or crapromedia flash
[04:52] <tRSS> I keep getting this error when I do "kinit Administrator@DOMAIN.INTERNAL" :  KRB5 error code 68 while getting initial credentials
[04:52] <Absolute0> which kernel version comes with the latest ubuntu
[04:52] <Absolute0> ?
[04:52] <mcphail> alterim: i think ff will work without "installing"
[04:52] <alterim> really?
[04:53] <burning_bronx> Absolute0, it's 2.6.12-10 with the latest stable release
[04:53] <alterim> how do i do that
[04:53] <seannyob> psusi: yeah, that's the problem, isn't it.
[04:53] <burning_bronx> and the developmant branch is currently 2.6.15-9
[04:53] <ofer0> burning_bronx, I think it's 2.6.12.9...
[04:53] <Absolute0> it has acpi support right?
[04:53] <alterim> and how do i choose the last person that spoke to me's name in xchat
[04:53] <alterim> it's tab in chatzilla
[04:53] <psusi> seannyob: you can install the 32 bit versiosn in a 32 bit chroot
[04:53] <mcphail> alterim: this might not work...
[04:53] <burning_bronx> ofer0, you may be right haven't used breezy in a while
[04:53] <nico551> i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)
[04:53] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the diff between firebird clasic and super
[04:53] <mcphail> alterim: download from the mozilla site
[04:53] <barosl^win> how to turn on fontconfig debug mode?
[04:54] <psusi> seannyob: I never liked flash.. so I don't miss it
[04:54] <ofer0> psusi, yeah, flash sucks!
[04:54] <mcphail> alterim: right click on the tar file and extract it
[04:54] <labandus> hi men i'm looking for P2P Client in Ubuntu
[04:54] <seannyob> psusi: is there a chroot howto on a wiki somwhere?  and yes, flash is annoying, ofer0, but I'm a webdeveloper and i really need access to it, so my hands are tied
[04:54] <burning_bronx> mcphail, even if he does that he still has to remove the old firefox and do his fair share of symlinking
[04:55] <ofer0> labandus, which network?
[04:55] <mcphail> burning_bronx: only if he wants to run it as "firefox" direct from the command line
[04:55] <labandus> evrething that in Ubuntu works
[04:55] <psusi> seannyob: either on the wiki or a howto thread on the forums....
[04:55] <labandus> ofer0,  everything that in Ubuntu works
[04:55] <nico551> labandus, therer is a bittorrent preinstalled
[04:55] <ofer0> labandus, yeah. but you have bittorrent, gnutella, etc...
[04:55] <burning_bronx> who doesn't?
[04:55] <burning_bronx> :P
[04:55] <alterim> it's ok, i'll follow the wiki
[04:55] <alterim> doesn't seem to bad
[04:55] <burning_bronx> it is not
[04:55] <labandus> ofer0,  gnutella
[04:56] <ofer0> labandus, you can use LimeWire, it's pretty good
[04:56] <mcphail> burning_bronx: it would only be a single sim-link if he wanted to do that anyway
[04:56] <burning_bronx> alterim, you just have not to be afraid to use the command line and to learn some new stuff
[04:56] <burning_bronx> what about the flash and java stuff?
[04:56] <psusi> the gnome bittorrent client sucks... bit tornado is MUCH nicer... still light weight but gives far more information and is tweekable
[04:56] <labandus> i don't find it
[04:57] <burning_bronx> BitTornado > Azureus
[04:57] <HymnToLife> * > Aureus
[04:57] <labandus> ofer0,  i don't find it
[04:57] <mcphail> burning_bronx: would still work. just install when prompted on a page
[04:57] <psusi> Azureus is a pig of a program... no wonder... it's written in Java...
[04:57] <seannyob> psusi: basically what i'm thinking of doing is buying a haupage and using my machine as a myth pvr as well as a desktop.
[04:57] <burning_bronx> yeah but wouldn't it be easier to symlink to existing plugins?
[04:58] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail
[04:58] <burning_bronx> java is evil
[04:58] <burning_bronx> but I like java games
[04:58] <burning_bronx> :P
[04:58] <mcphail> burning_bronx: not if he wants to avoid the CLI at all costs
[04:58] <burning_bronx> we're back where we started
[04:58] <burning_bronx> learn to love the cli :P
[04:58] <HymnToLife> if he wants to avoid the CLI, he shouldn't be running ubuntu in the first place
[04:59] <Foodcoman> morning
[04:59] <psusi> you should read the book "In the beginning was the command line"  very nifty book
[04:59] <the_mr_bong_show> whats CLI
[04:59] <mcphail> HymnToLife: not true. Ubuntu has a well rounded GUI.
[04:59] <HymnToLife> Command Line Interpreter
[04:59] <burning_bronx> well you could run it - but you shouldn't be afraid of a few lines in a black and white console
[04:59] <ofer0> HymnToLife, I for Interface, isn't it ?
[04:59] <the_mr_bong_show> i thought it was like the fbi lol
[04:59] <psusi> mcphail: yes... it does... but sometimes you have to go back to the command line
[04:59] <HymnToLife> or Interfece yes, it's the same
[05:00] <mcphail> psusi: yes, but not all users have to.
[05:00] <burning_bronx> Ubuntu is user-friendly but not to the point where CLI would be obsolete
[05:00] <HymnToLife> indeed
[05:00] <the_mr_bong_show> who here loves windows
[05:00] <the_mr_bong_show> xp
[05:00] <mcphail> burning_bronx: the CLI will never be obsolete. But not everyone has to use it.
[05:01] <burning_bronx> Windows ain't bad
[05:01] <burning_bronx> but it restricts people
[05:01] <burning_bronx> more or less
[05:01] <HymnToLife> rather more than less
[05:01] <the_mr_bong_show> i thought ubuntu was more restricting htan windows
[05:01] <burning_bronx> the_mr_bong_show,  it is not
[05:01] <mcphail> burning_bronx: for example, my father could use ubuntu to do everything he needs without knowing there was a CLI
[05:01] <burning_bronx> you can customize it in every way that you want
[05:02] <burning_bronx> mcphail, I know :)
[05:02] <Allan> The sudo command doesn't work. When I type "sudo ________", no matter what the blank is, it goes back to the prompt. Why is this hapenning and how do I fix it?
[05:02] <eps> the_mr_bong_show out of the box it is clean, though ubuntu users quickly change that :)
[05:02] <gnomefreak> define restricting? you can minipulate linux in anyway shape or form (for most part)
[05:02] <DeepBlueGhost> unfortunately I use Windows still.  Only for downloading from newsgroups and checking what I download.  Then reboot into linux to work with the files.
[05:02] <burning_bronx> eps, that's not entirely true - Breezy had a few flaws when released officially
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Allan, what are you typing
[05:02] <burning_bronx> yet Ubuntu is still a young distro
[05:02] <Allan> sudo echo hi
[05:03] <Allan> sudo synaptic
[05:03] <eps> DeepBlueGhost newsgroup access is done better under linux (the apps are better)
[05:03] <Ng> DeepBlueGhost: have you looked at a program called "pan"? (available in synaptic) - very nice newsgroup proram
[05:03] <Ng> +g
[05:03] <Allan> sudo apt-get remove synaptic
[05:03] <gnomefreak> you dont really need sudo for echo
[05:03] <eps> burning_bronx clean == not lots of choice and a non cluttered gui (aka kde)
[05:03] <Allan> anything sudo doesn't work
[05:03] <Allan> i know
[05:03] <eps> breezy is still broken in my opinion
[05:03] <gnomefreak> are you trying to install something?
[05:03] <eps> ffs no debian release would give you a gcc update and no kernel to go with it :P
[05:03] <burning_bronx> well it's pretty stable compaed to the first few weeks of it's release
[05:04] <DeepBlueGhost> Yeah?  Find me a GOOD binary reader.  Pan can do it, but not anything like what I want, and klibido doesn't cut it either.
[05:04] <psusi> eps: what are you talking about?
[05:04] <trappist> eps: oh but they would.
[05:04] <labandus> ofer0, ???
[05:04] <mcphail> eps: why do you need a gcc4 kernel?
[05:04] <DeepBlueGhost> Then we have the parchive command line vs. quickpar.
[05:04] <gnomefreak> to just run something its normallly the program name thats it
[05:04] <trappist> eps: my big frustration with my last debian install is that the gcc version that built the distributed kernel wasn't even available
[05:04] <the_mr_bong_show> ok im trying to install firebird 2 and mplayer and then it asks for a new password for the sysdba user what the hell
[05:04] <burning_bronx> then again eps the Debian project is ages old and Ubuntu just started 2004
[05:05] <burning_bronx> it has achieved much
[05:05] <burning_bronx> and the next release would be a milestone performance-wise
[05:05] <gnomefreak> i think i read somewhere that ubuntu was fastest growing distro out
[05:05] <burning_bronx> yeah maybe it is
[05:05] <frans-th> Where is hmb?
[05:06] <burning_bronx> but most important is - it's building it's reputiation on it's own
[05:06] <frans-th> anyone can help?
[05:06] <gnomefreak> yes that it is
[05:06] <Wonkey> whats better for me, server or default install. i want to make a router/webserver/dbserver out of mine with usb modem support
[05:06] <the_mr_bong_show> ok im trying to install firebird 2 super and then it asks for a new password for the sysdba user what the hell
[05:06] <nico551> i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)
[05:06] <burning_bronx> Wonkey, if you don't mind only running text based apps go on with the server install
[05:06] <eps> transgress that is my current frustration...I have gcc4 installed and the kernel is built on 3.4
[05:06] <burning_bronx> but for the server install you have to love the CLI
[05:06] <burning_bronx> do you love the CLI?
[05:07] <mcphail> eps: then install gcc3.4
[05:07] <eps> and grr the frikken headers for 2.6.12-9 don't match!
[05:07] <burning_bronx> eps, that's one major flaw indeed but you can install 3.4
[05:07] <eps> mcphail I did based on your advice ages ago
[05:07] <trappist> eps: you probably have 3.4 installed too.  it's not a big deal.  export CC or update your symlinks or use update-alternatives.
[05:07] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail
[05:07] <eps> hihi Lukian :)
[05:07] <Lukian> hi :p
[05:07] <Wonkey> burning_bronx, thanks
[05:07] <burning_bronx> Lukian, you're look is pretty sly
[05:07] <gnomefreak> sorry wont use evo.
[05:07] <eps> I'm updating to -10 assuming ubuntu maintainers can at least get the header files right once in awhile?
[05:07] <viktor> hi all :D
[05:07] <jenda> I have an external NTFS drive. I need to resize the partition from 40 to 30 gigs. Please help me.
[05:08] <mcphail> eps: moving a whole kernel, toolchain and userspace is a major undertaking
[05:08] <Lukian> eps sent me some strange voicemails earlier burning_bronx :P
[05:08] <burning_bronx> Wonkey, you're only gonna use it as a server right?
[05:08] <viktor> what is the command to lock up so you can watch movies in ubuntu ?? i cant remember it :P
[05:08] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: i built and installed sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb but java -version still shows me java version "1.4.2-02"
[05:08] <eps> Lukian yes, we were sitting outside your house - btw get rid of that prickle grass...that hurt...
[05:08] <eps> mcphail I'm sure it is
[05:08] <burning_bronx> can-o-worms, you have to change the java alternatives
[05:08] <burning_bronx> have you done that?
[05:08] <Lukian> eps: that's natural, it doesn't go away :p
[05:09] <psusi> jenda: fire up gparted
[05:09] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: no, how do i do that?
[05:09] <mcphail> eps: remember breezy was broken for _months_ in development because of this
[05:09] <eps> meanwhile using ubuntu has made this install take a good 2 hours more than it should have (in part thanks to my slow broadband)
[05:09] <burning_bronx> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:09] <eps> mcphail guess it is that short release cycle ....
[05:09] <burning_bronx> then pick the new java you installed
[05:09] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: thanks again
[05:09] <burning_bronx> you're always welcome, friend
[05:09] <jenda> psusi: done... but it doesn't give the option to resize
[05:10] <eps> Lukian your shell was running a bit slow before...you dling lots?
[05:10] <burning_bronx> shell?
[05:10] <psusi> jenda: it doesn't?  Hrm.. you don't have it mounted do you?
[05:10] <burning_bronx> who said shell?
[05:10] <viktor> someone knows what to do to watch movie in ubuntu (i got vlc)
[05:10] <burning_bronx> I want a shell
[05:10] <eps> I did...
[05:10] <eps> sure, you can have one on my box if you want
[05:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[05:10] <burning_bronx> what does it have on it?
[05:10] <jenda> psusi: I did - I unmounted it for this purpose - no prob to mount it again
[05:10] <Lukian> eps: i am shaped, but i do download random packages sometimes
[05:11] <eps> burning_bronx what ever I want :|
[05:11] <eps> Lukian haha we are both shapped :P
[05:11] <burning_bronx> >.>
[05:11] <Lukian> (totem-xine)
[05:11] <eps> you should throw some cat5 over to ctn's
[05:11] <burning_bronx> Lukian, but at least you got your totem working right ;)
[05:11] <psusi> jenda: I could have sworn that gparted could resize ntfs partitions... the option is just greyed out?
[05:11] <eps> and I'll hook up wireless to you guys
[05:11] <burning_bronx> I am in Bulgaria
[05:11] <eps> so yes...ubuntu is silly
[05:11] <burning_bronx> throw me wirless yeah
[05:11] <burning_bronx> >.>
[05:12] <Lukian> burning_bronx: indeed, ta :p
[05:12] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: cool... that fixed it
[05:12] <Lukian> it seems to handle dvds better than vlc from what ive  seen so far too
[05:12] <burning_bronx> can-o-worms as I said - you're always welcome
[05:12] <psusi> jenda: well, you can do it from the command line using ntfsresize and fdisk...
[05:12] <eps> totem can deal with dvd now?
[05:12] <kenswanson> newbie,,,just downloaded jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin, to my desktop, apt-get doesn't install it, what does please?
[05:12] <burning_bronx> Totem can deal with anything
[05:12] <eps> silly debian sid is still stuck on gnome 2.10
[05:13] <izmeh> hello
[05:13] <eps> I can see 2.12 in experimental though I'm thinking I wont grab it until it comes into unstable
[05:13] <burning_bronx> and sarge is even more slugish
[05:13] <eps> sarge is stable...what do you expect?
[05:13] <burning_bronx> that's what I like 'bout 'buntu
[05:13] <the_mr_bong_show> how the hell do i set up email accounts using Evolution
[05:13] <Lukian> kennethlove: it installs itself
[05:13] <jenda> psusi: how exactly?
[05:13] <eps> stable == stable; only security updates
[05:13] <Lukian> kennethlove: makeit exectuable and run it (from terminal)
[05:13] <eps> etch is the current testing
[05:13] <burning_bronx> the_mr_bong_show, grab thunderbird ;P
[05:13] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:13] <DeepBlueGhost> I couldn't even get sarge to install.  Hung halfway through the install...Ubuntu no problem....
[05:14] <the_mr_bong_show> whats thunderbird
[05:14] <kenswanson> ty canoworms, will try now
[05:14] <eps> how can one screw up a sarge install..
[05:14] <eps> that's a worry
[05:14] <Lukian> the_mr_bong_show: an email client
[05:14] <burning_bronx> Sarge is too stable for me.
[05:14] <DeepBlueGhost> mr_bong:  Email program.  Good one from mozilla...
[05:14] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: i just ran that minutes ago, you seem to have an earlier version
[05:14] <the_mr_bong_show> isnt thunderbird firebird
[05:15] <burning_bronx> as I stated I like to break things
[05:15] <eps> burning_bronx even etch is to stable for me, hence why I'm on sid
[05:15] <psusi> jenda: start with man ntfsresize... basically though you run ntfsresize and tell it to shrink the filesystem... note exactly what it's new size is in sectors, then run fdisk on the drive, use the 'u' command to put it in sector mode
[05:15] <eps> then use debian experimental :D
[05:15] <burning_bronx> I am on dapper - it is too stable too
[05:15] <kenswanson> canoworms: command not found
[05:15] <jenda> psusi: yeah...greyed out
[05:15] <psusi> jenda: delete the partition, and recreate it with the new ending sector ( start sector + new length )
[05:15] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: that won't install it though, that will just build you a deb, you'll need to run sudo dpkg -i sun.....deb after it is done
[05:15] <eps> anyway I'm not going to get any more of this done
[05:15] <eps> tonight
[05:15] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[05:15] <burning_bronx> eps, what's your name on the forums?
[05:15] <eps> ubuntu is busy dling
[05:16] <eps> burning_bronx I'm not on any forums
[05:16] <psusi> jenda: but the same starting sector
[05:16] <kenswanson> doing
[05:16] <eps> (in relation to ubuntu)
[05:16] <burning_bronx> weird you're talking like a guy I saw there
[05:16] <burning_bronx> ;)
[05:16] <jenda> psusi: no go... I don't want to delet the partition :)
[05:16] <eps> burning_bronx you mean as some one who likes ubuntu but likes flaming it because ubuntu users flame debian (both for no apparrent reason)?
[05:16] <psusi> jenda: you delete it and recreate it to change the length
[05:17] <psusi> jenda: after ntfsresize shrinks the filesystem contained in the partition
[05:17] <burning_bronx> eps, he likes debian and uses ubuntu and flames ubuntu.
[05:17] <burning_bronx> dunno why
[05:17] <viktor> please i would really approciete it
[05:17] <eps> mmm well I recommend ubuntu to any one who asks (on the idea that any one who knows what they are talking about has already gone with debian or gentoo)
[05:18] <eps> and a part from some stupid things...like mr shuttleworth liking kde (yuck)...I like ubuntu :)
[05:18] <eps> I just wouldn't use it on my desktop...
[05:18] <jenda> psusi: Ok, I gotta go. thanks - no more time to do this.
[05:18] <burning_bronx> well Ubuntu is faster in development than debian
[05:18] <burning_bronx> and is better for the desktop
[05:18] <kenswanson> canoworms it doesn't like "make -jpkg, says command not found, this is after I installed fakeroot
[05:18] <eps> burning_bronx incorrect, it is on a faster release cycle
[05:18] <Mabus06> This channell is a large selling point for ubuntu, for me.
[05:18] <eps> though yes it is a better desktoip
[05:19] <bipolar> does anyone know if there is a way to kill a process that does not respond to 'kill -9' ?
[05:19] <can-o-worms> eps: i spent 2 years on both debian and gentoo, and i agree with you 100%... ubuntu is where it's at
[05:19] <burning_bronx> eps, I've been using the dapper development branch since it's start and most packages are out faster than debian's unstable/experimental
[05:19] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:19] <eps> and suprisingly...with a lot of modification...a very IT-department-switching-from-windows-to-linux-servers friendly server os
[05:19] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i install thunderbird
[05:19] <coNP> kenswanson, use "make-jpkg"
[05:19] <eps> burning_bronx yes but our packages at least work by the time they make it to stable
[05:20] <trappist> make-jpkg is pretty great
[05:20] <eps> unlike this stupid situation with gcc
[05:20] <burning_bronx> eps you can fix gcc easy enough
[05:20] <burning_bronx> anyway
[05:20] <trappist> eps: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[05:20] <eps> burning_bronx I shouldn't need to fix it
[05:20] <eps> if my mother can't do it it shouldn't be in ubuntu
[05:20] <eps> desktop motto
[05:20] <burning_bronx> so your mother needs to compile stuff?
[05:21] <eps> sssh!
[05:21] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[05:21] <eps> ...she needs nvidia drivers :P
[05:21] <trappist> eps: you're just trolling now.  you have two different compilers, and it defaults to the newer, shinier one, and you're complaining?
[05:21] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: then when you are done you probably need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:21] <eps> trappist yes, there shouldn't be a lag between a new gcc and a kernel built under it in a stable distro
[05:21] <trappist> eps: tell her to apt-get install the nvidia drivers.
[05:21] <Xperience> lol
[05:21] <eps> eww apt-get
[05:21] <Xperience> eps www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:21] <burning_bronx> and edit xorg.conf
[05:22] <can-o-worms> eps: if you want to get your mother to do it then install windows
[05:22] <burning_bronx> apt-get owns you.
[05:22] <eps> Xperience has that been updated yet?
[05:22] <trappist> eps: why is that, exactly?  I don't know that the new compiler's been out long enough to trust kernels built with it.
[05:22] <Xperience> i dunno
[05:22] <Xperience> but its useful
[05:22] <can-o-worms> it is well known fact that mothers can only windows
[05:22] <psycose> the_mr_bong_show http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php
[05:22] <Xperience> Windows pwns moms everywhere
[05:23] <the_mr_bong_show> can someone give a link to some great ubuntu themes or wallpapers please
[05:23] <stuen> trying to install ubuntu 5.1 on an acer travelmate 4650 series laptop, it hangs on the first install screen after the booting kernal message any thoughts?
[05:23] <eps> trappist it works like this, apply the default updates, try to compile a kernel module (vmware...some thing my father would try and install) and find out...oh wait! no kernels with it!
[05:23] <eps> and would you look at that! folks wouldn't have a clue why it is broken
[05:23] <can-o-worms> eps: you are a real family dude
[05:23] <eps> ontop of that once you get the right gcc the headers are broken!
[05:23] <kenswanson> canoworms: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:23] <john2k> !floppy
[05:23] <ubotu> I don't know, john2k
[05:23] <bipolar> eps: the latest vmware includes ubuntu kernel modules.
[05:23] <burning_bronx> xD
[05:23] <eps> can-o-worms every one in my family runs ubuntu, except for myself
[05:24] <Xperience> is it me or is there a new kernel every 2 weeks?
[05:24] <eps> bipolar sure, you going to pay for it for me? :P
[05:24] <burning_bronx> and my family thinks I am a freak using linux >.>
[05:24] <Xperience> eps who pays for anything anymore?
[05:24] <eps> burning_bronx takes about three years to convert a windows family to linux :P
[05:24] <can-o-worms> kenswanson: you got me man... it just worked for me, ask burning_bronx
[05:24] <bipolar> eps: you can compile a kernel module, your dad can pay for latest vmware.
[05:24] <burning_bronx> my mother only plays games with linux
[05:24] <eps> Xperience ... I cbf torrenting 5 when I have 4.5 legit then
[05:24] <burning_bronx> and the games she plays are wine emulated
[05:24] <john2k> anyone know who to fix "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" when  trying to access a floppy drive?
[05:25] <Xperience> why pay for shit when you can get it for free?
[05:25] <eps> so you guys are making excuses about a problem that several people have said is a major bug, instead of thinking of ways to avoid it in future...so yes, an imature project
[05:25] <can-o-worms> eps: then ask everyone else in your family why you shouldn't compile a kernel with the latest gcc
[05:25] <Xperience> i know if you could donwload cars off the net i would have a ferrari
[05:25] <burning_bronx> eps, we are not making excuses
[05:25] <eps> yes you are
[05:25] <burning_bronx> we are giving you solutions till Dapper
[05:25] <can-o-worms> eps: the forums tell you all about it
[05:25] <viktor> please can someone help we so i ccan watch movies on my comp i have installed vlc but i still cant watch movies :(:( i know there is a command i have to write cus of the legal stuff
[05:26] <eps> you are throwing everything back as if it is my fault for trying to install some thing
[05:26] <burning_bronx> so you could stop whine
[05:26] <burning_bronx> no no no
[05:26] <bipolar> no one should have to compile a kernel module to get a working system. They should all be there.
[05:26] <burning_bronx> simply giving you the solution to fix your problems till the problems are fixed >.>
[05:26] <the_mr_bong_show> can someone give a link to some great ubuntu themes or wallpapers please
[05:26] <bipolar> if the module is not there, it is unsupported by ubuntu and the software that needs the module should handle it's creation.
[05:27] <Xperience> anyone use tovid?
[05:27] <Xperience> i think its great
[05:27] <eps> burning_bronx none of you have done that, except for mcphail - and I'm already well on the way to having the problem fixed.  I am just trying to see if this project is even interested in thinking of ways to stop this happening
[05:27] <Stormx2> Xperience: tovid?
[05:27] <burning_bronx> it is
[05:27] <eps> or maybe...just maybe...stealing the solution from debian or gentoo :D
[05:27] <Xperience> www.tovid.sourceforge.net
[05:27] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Try gnome-look.org
[05:27] <can-o-worms> eps: linux sucks in general , everything you try to do is an effort, takes time and reading... head scratching and nail biting.... get over it
[05:27] <kenswanson> canoworms:  sudo update-alternatives --config java  worked, thank you very much
[05:27] <Stonekeeper> hi. I need to find out what specs my RAM is. Is there a H/W diagnostic tool for ubuntu?
[05:27] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[05:27] <burning_bronx> eps, you're being a troll >.>
[05:28] <eps> can-o-worms no, ubuntu is a 'desktop' distro, it's point is that linux is simple
[05:28] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: That place is pretty much overrun with ubuntu wallpapers
[05:28] <eps> burning_bronx from my point of view it is several of you who are being the trolls
[05:28] <eps> and it is getting annoying
[05:28] <psusi> Stonekeeper: what kind of specs?
[05:28] <john2k> I think linux is great
[05:28] <burning_bronx> eps concider you may be wrong and you may be the one being annoying ;)
[05:28] <the_mr_bong_show> thank you
[05:28] <burning_bronx> just... think about it
[05:28] <burning_bronx> ;)
[05:29] <Stormx2> john2k: Don't we all? =D
[05:29] <Xperience> GUI's kick ass
[05:29] <eps> burning_bronx I did think about that, though I came to the conclusion that since we are both on different pages this conversation wasn't going to go anywhere, and it hasn't
[05:29] <can-o-worms> eps: don't you read slashdot? if you did you'd know linux isn't ready for the desktop
[05:29] <john2k> You knoa what is head-scratching? Having to phone microsft to get a 40 digit reg number :-)
[05:29] <Xperience> lol
[05:29] <eps> (but I have 30 minutes to kill while I fix up ubuntus mistake by updating the kernel)
[05:29] <psusi> Stonekeeper: when you boot up, choose the option to run memtest86 from the grub boot menu... it will test the memory for errors, and give some information about it
[05:29] <eps> john2k gah had to do that for ten systems in the row the other day :|
[05:29] <psusi> can-o-worms: is that trolling or are you attempting to be funny?
[05:30] <the_mr_bong_show> should i be worried about hackers virus spyware addware
[05:30] <can-o-worms> psusi: take your pick
[05:30] <burning_bronx> love Microsoft - you pay them to ruin your system
[05:30] <psusi> the_mr_bong_show: no
[05:30] <john2k> not fun... I always leave it till the last muinute and the windows stops working lol
[05:30] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[05:31] <john2k> and thats with something I PAID for
[05:31] <burning_bronx> yeah
[05:31] <eps> burning_bronx I love my job, on the windows systems solutions are always hack fixes that hold until you do some thing else, while when working on unix systems (excluding AIX...what was IBM thinking...seriously) everything has a clear and simple (normally) solution that truely fixes the issue
[05:31] <eps> none of this reboot and pray crap
[05:32] <st3f> eps what is your job?
[05:32] <burning_bronx> truth.
[05:32] <eps> (which I will note worked very nicely on a black berry server the other day :P)
[05:32] <Stormx2> eps: Thats because linux is transparent in every way.
[05:32] <burning_bronx> and now with Vista coming out soon
[05:32] <burning_bronx> the windows users will get a lot more graphical feel to what screws em up >.>
[05:32] <eps> normally IT techsupport (tier 1 & 2 ...and 3 if we cbf waiting on the phone), though at the moment I'm acting IT manager (covering eight sites over two states - eg hell)
[05:32] <gnomefreak>   vista will be out 2007
[05:32] <InitMass> why can't i use synaptic for upgrades sometimes but only apt-get upgrade?
[05:32] <Stormx2> Vista sucks >.<
[05:33] <DRK13> Hi kids and dogs
[05:33] <burning_bronx> DRK13, it's geeks and dogs
[05:33] <Stormx2> For those without much ram, it will suck bit time
[05:33] <burning_bronx> mind your tongue
[05:33] <Stormx2> I hated XP. I use windows 98 and 2000 when I need to.
[05:33] <st3f> i think he's right
[05:33] <DRK13> lol  @ Vista.    2Gigs of ram to make it look like Linux
[05:33] <Stormx2> haha
[05:33] <Stormx2> Apparently it has a unix kernel
[05:33] <john2k> lol
[05:33] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, all demonstrations of Vista are on systems with AT LEAST 1gig
[05:33] <burning_bronx> of ram
[05:34] <eps> 2k/xp is a godsend in the business world...if you can't use linux/mac at least there is a semi working os that every one will install
[05:34] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: I have 256 Im screwed
[05:34] <Ng> this isn't a windows channel guys
[05:34] <can-o-worms> Stormx2: vista will be cool.... XP needs some new icons
[05:34] <Xperience> anyone know a good lil prog to resize a partition so i can install win98?
[05:34] <eps> lol can-o-worms
[05:34] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, dun tell me you wanted to use vista
[05:34] <l0s3rk1d> Xperience: i use partition magic in windows
[05:34] <eps> can-o-worms and any annoying semi transperant glass that makes it hard to read the window name :P
[05:34] <burning_bronx> I don't theme my windows
[05:34] <DRK13> I want to install WinMe!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:34] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Not at all. if its anything like XP then no.
[05:34] <burning_bronx> it sucks even with pretty bars
[05:34] <psusi> eps: yea... we threw a party at my former job the day we dropped support for 95... heh
[05:34] <Ng> Xperience: gparted should be fine for that
[05:34] <Xperience> l0s3rk1d i dont ave windows installed
[05:34] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: I had a copy of Windows 1
[05:34] <john2k> Vista... a new ms o/s with new ms bugs :-)
[05:35] <eps> psusi ;P
[05:35] <psusi> Xperience: gparted
[05:35] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, I only started using windows 3.1
[05:35] <funkyHat> How can I make Qt apps look nicer in Gnome?
[05:35] <burning_bronx> I still think windows 3.1 is the most stable ;)
[05:35] <eps> burning_bronx then your memory is crap
[05:35] <Xperience> Ng can i resize the hd with gparted while in linux or do i need to make a boot floppy or something
[05:35] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, sudo apt-get install qutconfig
[05:35] <eps> I had to fix a 3.1 box the other day
[05:35] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Haha damn right. Thats cause it was just pretty DOS
[05:35] <can-o-worms> burning_bronx: win95 is damn fast
[05:35] <eps> ...and by fix I mean ...I broke it more
[05:35] <the_mr_bong_show> i need help deting up my email acounts on thunderbird
[05:35] <DRK13> Vista is funny, talk about a memory hog
[05:35] <Ng> Xperience: ah, yeah you probably don't want to do it while you're in linux
[05:35] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, sudo apt-get install qutconfig
[05:35] <the_mr_bong_show> seti ngup*
[05:35] <eps> did you realise 3.1 had no driver support if you changed some thing on it!
[05:35] <burning_bronx> then run qtconfig and edit the stuff
[05:35] <psusi> Xperience: use the ubuntu livecd
[05:36] <eps> kk bed time
[05:36] <eps> later all
[05:36] <gnomefreak> setting up and what mail accounts are you trying to set up?
[05:36] <Stormx2> Linux is leaps and bounds better than anything microsoft can throw up.
[05:36] <DRK13> bed? where do you live?
[05:36] <Xperience> the ubuntu cd will let me resize and create a fat32 partition?
[05:36] <Ng> Xperience: you could use the Live CD, or parted
[05:36] <hans> netherlands
[05:36] <Stormx2> hans: try #ubuntu-nl
[05:36] <psusi> Xperience: yes...
[05:36] <Wonkey> what kernal should i install that already has ppp surport ?
[05:37] <Xperience> kk
[05:37] <Wonkey> 2.6 ?
[05:37] <psusi> Wonkey: the one ubuntu installs for you
[05:37] <the_mr_bong_show> i need help seting up my email acounts on thunderbird like what my incoming sever and out and what do i use pop or imap
[05:37] <burning_bronx> Wonkey, just get the latest 2.6.* for your distro?
[05:37] <can-o-worms> Stormx2: better doesn't mean anything... it is a show of hands that counts... and look who is in the whitehouse
[05:37] <hans> join ubuntu-nl
[05:37] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, what repository is qutconfig in?
[05:37] <adroc> has anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?
[05:37] <Stormx2> hans: /join #ubuntu-nl
[05:37] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, it's qtconfig
[05:37] <burning_bronx> I misspelled it
[05:37] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show,  what accounts are they gmail,hotmail,bellsouth?
[05:37] <burning_bronx> it's in the universe I think
[05:37] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, that's not there either
[05:37] <Wonkey> burning_bronx, i had errors installing the base system. now i have to pick my kernel and its not automatic
[05:37] <the_mr_bong_show> hotmail and yahoo
[05:38] <gnomefreak> hotmail and yahoo i think are both pop
[05:38] <Stormx2> I think hotmail stopped their POP and SMTP services?
[05:38] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, make sure you have universe enabled
[05:38] <john2k> yahoo.com isnt pop
[05:38] <john2k> yahoo.co.uk is
[05:38] <the_mr_bong_show> ok then how do set up the sever stuff
[05:39] <gnomefreak> and you would have to check with thier sites to find out if its pop.hotmail.com or not for incomming and outgoing i think would be smtp.hotmail.com
[05:39] <adroc> has anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?
[05:39] <burning_bronx> then do sudo apt-get install qtconfig
[05:39] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, yes I do, it's qt3-qtconfig ;)
[05:39] <burning_bronx> is it?
[05:39] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: What mail client are you using? Evolution?
[05:39] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[05:39] <burning_bronx> hmmm
[05:39] <the_mr_bong_show> thunderbird
[05:39] <burning_bronx> sorry for the misleading info then funkyHat
[05:39] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Never used it. Just check the site for reference on how to set it up, it will give you all the information
[05:39] <burning_bronx> the command is qtconfig tho
[05:40] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thank you
[05:40] <Stormx2> Im gonna go play gamecube. Cya later.
[05:40] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, what I was after though was a qt engine that would use my GTK+2 theme :), althoug ha Clearlooks theme for Qt would do fine :)
[05:40] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, don't worry about it :)
[05:40] <adroc> has anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?
[05:40] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, I thought you just wanted to make your Qt apps look better in gnome
[05:41] <^rob^> what package provides sys/types.h?
[05:41] <funkyHat> burning_bronx, yes, better would be good, but 'like my gnome apps' would be perfect :)
[05:41] <zenlunatic> anyone know what "lg byte" stands for on laserjet 4000 n printers in ip settings?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show, the way to find out servers would be at thier site meaning server for hotmail should say it in hotmails help part in setting up outlook/evo it is same server for all the thunderbird type mail clients
[05:41] <burning_bronx> funkyHat, if you know what font and style ur gnome theme is using you can make it from qtconfig
[05:41] <gnomefreak> i have my gmail on thunderbird thats it
[05:41] <burning_bronx> just experiment
[05:42] <gnomefreak> gmail=pop.gmail.com
[05:42] <burning_bronx> I only have qtconfig cause of skype
[05:42] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:42] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thank you
[05:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:42] <Lukian> i wonder if i can get X-tetris to work under ubuntu
[05:42] <burning_bronx> Lukian, why not?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> whos familier with shell scripting?
[05:42] <tux> i cant login! it says cant write to home/tux/.ICE authority something....HELP!
[05:42] <Lukian> burning_bronx: 'cause it's a win32 app? :p
[05:43] <coNP> ^rob^, libc6-dev
[05:43] <burning_bronx> Lukian, wine?
[05:43] <burning_bronx> I use it for small games like that
[05:43] <Lukian> hehe
[05:43] <Lukian> neat
[05:43] <adroc> has anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?
[05:43] <^rob^> coNP: thanks
[05:43] <Lukian> i shall see :D
[05:44] <burning_bronx> Lukian, there is a Tetris game in Ubuntu
[05:44] <burning_bronx> why do you need X-tetris?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> get 'tong' its tetris-pong !
[05:45] <tux> i cant login! it says cant write to home/tux/.ICE authority something....HELP me plz!
[05:45] <Lukian> burning_bronx: because it's X-rated?
[05:45] <burning_bronx> awwwww
[05:45] <burning_bronx> that tetrix
[05:45] <burning_bronx> now I remember
[05:45] <burning_bronx> :P
[05:45] <Lukian> ;)
[05:46] <Lukian> i almost made 10,000 on it too
[05:46] <Lukian> no idea what happens then :o
[05:46] <burning_bronx> well if you're comfortable with wine you can go on and get it
[05:46] <Lukian> yeah, downloading wine now
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> X rated Tetris? :p
[05:46] <burning`dinner> I have to go eat
[05:46] <burning`dinner> be back soon
[05:46] <Lukian> Dr_Willis: yeah, the pieces are people.
[05:47] <burning`dinner> and you make sex poses
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Lukian, Cool!
[05:47] <burning`dinner> a sweet memory from my childhood
[05:47] <burning`dinner> :P
[05:47] <burning`dinner> k
[05:47] <tux> :(
[05:47] <burning`dinner> dinner now
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> googling now....
[05:47] <burning`dinner> tux, check if you have write permissions for ~/.ICE
[05:47] <burning`dinner> maybe u did someting to totally mess it >.>
[05:47] <burning`dinner> k
[05:48] <tux> burning`dinner: i dont think i have...what next?
[05:48] <burning`dinner> away now
[05:48] <burning`dinner> k just chmod ~/.ICE to 0777 and try loggin in again
[05:48] <burning`dinner> sheesh
[05:48] <burning`dinner> I can't have my dinner
[05:48] <burning`dinner> it's chicken stew
[05:48] <burning`dinner> away now
[05:48] <tux> what should be default permissions for home config files?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Lukian,  the x-tetris i found downlioad was named 'winrar.zip' - thats scary
[05:49] <tux> burning`dinner: happy dinner:)
[05:49] <Lukian> Dr_Willis: hehe, nice ;)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Lukian,  Oh wait - that was a browser/winrar issue.. it then changed the name right after it downklioaded. :P
[05:49] <burning`dinner> tux you should just drwxr-xr-x it
[05:49] <burning`dinner> the home foldier
[05:50] <Space> hi
[05:50] <tux> burning`dinner: whats the number for that?
[05:50] <burning`dinner> and give full read/right permissions to the god damn ICE
[05:50] <tux> burning`dinner: should i use -R?
[05:50] <Lukian> Dr_Willis:  ;)
[05:50] <Lukian> let me know how it goes under wine (including sound) ? :D
[05:50] <Lukian> "ooooooooh!"
[05:50] <Lukian> "ahhhhhhhhhhhh!"
[05:51] <Lukian> "eeeeeeeooooo!"
[05:51] <Lukian> "neigh!"
[05:51] <burning`dinner> tux, just try doing this to the home foldier and try giving full read/right permissions to the /.ICE
[05:51] <burning`dinner> check if you can login
[05:51] <burning`dinner> bbl
[05:51] <kenswanson> have realplayer10gold.bin, will the apt-get install it?
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> dapper froze.
[05:52] <the_mr_bong_show> i checked hotmail and thay dont have anything in there about how to set up outlook
[05:52] <Lukian> kenswanson: make it executable and run it (from terminal) .
[05:52] <kenswanson> to make it executable to you just rename it? sorry, new
[05:54] <trappist> kenswanson: chmod +x filename
[05:54] <psycose> kenswanson $ man chmod
[05:54] <kenswanson> ty
[05:55] <the_mr_bong_show> Access your e-mail account from Microsoft Outlook Express
[05:55] <the_mr_bong_show> To protect our users from the increasing amount of unsolicited junk e-mail and spam sent from MSN Hotmail accounts through Outlook and Outlook Express, we have reluctantly had to restrict the new use of Outlook and Outlook Express to subscribers.
[05:55] <Di42lo> hello
[05:56] <Di42lo> how do i restart X here ?
[05:56] <the_mr_bong_show> hello
[05:56] <Di42lo> `killall X` doesnt work
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Lukian,  Ok - thats going in the wifes 'Start up Folder' on her XP box. :P
[05:56] <Stormx2> Ctrl + Alt + backspace
[05:56] <johnl> the_mr_bong_show, haha
[05:56] <Di42lo> and how do i start it again ?
[05:56] <Lukian> Dr_Willis: hehehehhehe
[05:56] <Lukian> she'll like it? ;)
[05:56] <ivanjmg> hi people
[05:56] <trappist> Di42lo: it'll restart itself
[05:56] <Di42lo> thx
[05:56] <funkyHat> Di42lo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, or quick and dirty: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:56] <Stormx2> Di42lo: That restarts it
[05:56] <Di42lo> ok
[05:56] <Wonkey> my kernel had problems installing. what would the the problem?
[05:56] <viktor> someone got to know how to watch movies in ubuntu ??
[05:56] <Stormx2> Di42lo: Ctrl + Alt + backspace
[05:56] <funkyHat> Di42lo, both of those will restart, if you want to stop, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:57] <Wonkey> it said there was a log, but i don't nkow what editing program the 'ash' shell has on the install
[05:57] <Denstark> Isn't it /etc/init.d/xdm? or does gdm have its own service in ubuntu?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Lukian,  :P perhaps she will get some ideas.
[05:57] <Denstark> Ah, why yes it is gdm.. hrm.
[05:57] <Denstark> =)
[05:57] <psusi> Denstark: gdm is the desktop manager
[05:57] <Lukian> Dr_Willis: excellent ;)
[05:57] <Denstark> Yes, I know.
[05:57] <funkyHat> Denstark, yes, gdm or kdm in ubuntu ;)
[05:59] <Denstark> I used to use Gentoo. In xorg.conf you would have to define DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm" (For example)
[05:59] <Denstark> and then start/stop xdm
[06:00] <Denstark> Actually, I Still use Gentoo, only for server though
[06:02] <Eleaf> hi
[06:02] <Eleaf> hi BenC
[06:02] <Eleaf> lol
[06:02] <freelove> why is gnome so slow? some things take ages to open up!
[06:02] <Eleaf> freelove, what are you computer stats?
[06:02] <the_mr_bong_show> whats a png
[06:02] <BenC> hello
[06:02] <funkyHat> Denstark, Gentoo is nice for some things :P
[06:02] <Eleaf> It's a image format
[06:02] <Denstark> the_mr_bong_show, its a image file format
[06:02] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[06:02] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[06:02] <Denstark> Kind of like Gif, JPG, BMP, etc.
[06:02] <deltron> gentoo is good for crashing ;)
[06:03] <freelove> Eleaf: intel celeron, 256mb ram....pclinuxos is more snappier even in live mode.
[06:03] <Eleaf> it has transperancy and is fairly good quality
[06:03] <Eleaf> freelove, I see, how long is it taking for some things?
[06:03] <Wonkey> my new install of ubuntu has had problems installing the kernel from a brand new download iso. what could be the problem ?
[06:04] <funkyHat> deltron, hahaha, never had trouble with that... apart from the time my mate pulled the plug on the recording box in the studio...
[06:04] <funkyHat> While Ardour was running no less
[06:04] <burning`dinner> k back
[06:05] <freelove> Eleaf: things like destop prefs, sometimes synaptic, mostly config things..
[06:05] <Eleaf> freelove, hours?
[06:06] <freelove> Eleaf: lol....no
[06:06] <deltron> last time I did an emerge on gentoo (was several years ago granted), it decided it would also like to remove /etc
[06:06] <freelove> close to 30secs.or more....dunno exactly...
[06:07] <burning_bronx> damn I really need to put on them gloves but then I won't be able to type
[06:07] <Denstark> Get a space heater, BurgerMann
[06:07] <Denstark> err
[06:07] <deltron> lol
[06:07] <Denstark> burning_bronx*
[06:07] <Denstark> DAMN U TAB COMPLETION.
[06:07] <burning_bronx> Denstark, I have
[06:07] <Eleaf> freelove, when you move your mouse around, does it sometimes skip?
[06:07] <Denstark> =)
[06:07] <burning_bronx> but it's still cold
[06:07] <burning_bronx> Denstark, try using 3 letters for tab complete
[06:07] <Denstark> yeah, I'm going to have to.
[06:07] <funkyHat> deltron, wow, ouch
[06:08] <Denstark> By the way, the stuff I was typing elrier wasn't me. It was a friend who thought he would be funny.
[06:08] <Printer> Morning all.
[06:08] <Denstark> Don't want you to be mad at me forever.
[06:08] <burning_bronx> Denstark, did you type?
[06:08] <Denstark> No, he did
[06:08] <Denstark> But it came out on my name lawl.
[06:08] <burning_bronx> I meant what did you type?
[06:08] <Stormx2> Woop just installed FF 1.5
[06:08] <Denstark> Oh.
[06:08] <Stormx2> and it worked this time
[06:08] <Stormx2> heh
[06:09] <Printer> Does anyone have gnomebaker running in dapper?  All I get is *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x081cefa8 ***
[06:09] <Denstark> Nothing ;-)
[06:09] <trappist> Printer: dapper is unstable and unsupported
[06:09] <burning_bronx> >.>
[06:09] <Denstark> wow
[06:09] <Eleaf> dpper dapper dapper
[06:09] <Denstark> mt.
[06:09] <freelove> Eleaf: when things get too slow.then only...
[06:10] <freelove> gnomebaker should be replaced with k3b:)
[06:10] <gnomefreak> !/bin/sh =bash right?
[06:10] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:10] <burning_bronx> Printer, I think gnomebaker is kinda broken
[06:10] <trappist> gnomefreak: not exactly
[06:10] <Denstark> /bin/bash = bash
[06:10] <Denstark> /bin/sh is a basic shell, I think
[06:10] <gnomefreak> im using gnome term is that good or bad?
[06:10] <cmatheson> gnomefreak: yes you're right.  sh is just bash on most linux systems
[06:10] <Denstark> Gnome term is fine, why not?
[06:11] <trappist> sh is a symlink to bash and causes bash to run with backward compatibility with sh
[06:11] <gnomefreak> its  not working :(
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> How can I pass a text file that is a list of servers to a program where servers are part of the argument?  It's netselect, the usage is "sudo netselect server1 server2 server3", and I want to make it do a lot of servers at once without retyping the whole list.
[06:11] <gnomefreak> i posted it in forum and one guy said it works for him :(
[06:11] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, it could be working for him
[06:12] <burning_bronx> but it's generally broken ;P
[06:12] <trappist> gnomefreak: "not working" is a poor description of the problem
[06:12] <burning_bronx> I get the invalid pointer error too
[06:12] <burning_bronx> maybe I should debuf this >.>
[06:12] <burning_bronx> *debuf
[06:12] <burning_bronx> *debug
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> I'd also like to know why netselect-apt thinks I am behind a firewall that's blocking traceroute, when to my knowledge I don't currently have a firewall installed.
[06:12] <burning_bronx> damn typing
[06:13] <Ng> tonyyarusso: from memory this might do the trick: cat /path/to/some/list.txt | xargs sudo netselect
[06:13] <HighHopes> Folks, which is the package I must install to recompile kernel?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Ng: What's xargs do?
[06:13] <the_mr_bong_show> what folder is the defult for wallpapes
[06:13] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: you coulod do something like 'for i in `cat foo.txt` ; do sudo netselect $i ; done'\
[06:14] <Ng> tonyyarusso: it takes a vertical list and makes it horizontal - run "cat servers.txt | xargs echo" and you'll see
[06:14] <cmatheson> the_mr_bong_show: there isn't one, you just import them w/ the gnome-background dialog
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, I don't understand that one at all.
[06:14] <[A] ndy80> how can I change the default font for KDE applications in Ubuntu?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> here is the link has everything http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=395664
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Ah.  That might do it.  Let's see...
[06:14] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: it works. read the bash man page or something if you don't understand the syntax
[06:14] <gnomefreak> it worked using ./logins but the book says to use "logins" and thats it
[06:15] <Xenguy> Hi - if I'm buying a new box, does it matter whether it comes with ATI or Nvidia (i.e. is one better supported in Ubuntu than the other?) ?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> Ng: That seems to be working I think.
[06:16] <Ng> Xenguy: at this stage nvidia is better supported
[06:16] <Denstark> <3 Nvidia
[06:16] <cmatheson> Xenguy: i've heard that ati support sucks (but that's just what i haer).  the lame binary drivers for nvidia have always worked very well for me though
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, Ng's idea seems to be working, so I'll write down yours for another day when I understand more.
[06:16] <Denstark> I don't buy ATI Cards cause their support for linux is the suxx..
[06:17] <Xenguy> Ng cmatheson Denstark  thanks
[06:17] <Denstark> No problem
[06:17] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: yeah, xargs is probably a more elegant approach
[06:17] <Denstark> Get dual 7800GTX's
[06:17] <Denstark> =D
[06:17] <Eleaf> what's bad with ati and ubuntu?
[06:17] <Xenguy> !ati
[06:17] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> Eleaf, I've heard of people having trouble with drivers, but apparently not always, since I have ATI and it's fine.
[06:18] <cmatheson> Eleaf: not necessarily a problem w/ ati and ubuntu as far as i know... it's more of like a problem w/ ati and linux in general (lousy driver support and what not)
[06:18] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i change the login screen
[06:19] <Eleaf> cmatheson, tonyyarusso ok, because I just got an ati card, and I'm hoping it will work alright.. = p
[06:19] <dave> Hi, is there somthing like make.conf in ubuntu
[06:19] <Ng> no
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Ng or cmatheson: Any thoughts on the firewall thing?
[06:20] <Ng> tonyyarusso: no, but you could try traceroute -I
[06:21] <Armagguedes> hello
[06:21] <Denstark> hi
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Ng: That would do it.  Command not found.
[06:21] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: i'm not sure what firewall thing you're talking about
[06:22] <trappist> me neither
[06:22] <Ng> tonyyarusso: apt-get install traceroute :)
[06:22] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: sudo aptitude install traceroute
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, It was mentioned at the top; another program was confused and suggested it might be a firewall issue.
[06:22] <Ng> tonyyarusso: or mtr is installed by default
[06:22] <Armagguedes> i've just dl'ed OOo2.0.1 in a tar-gz format, and used alien to turn those RPMs to DEBs.
[06:22] <Armagguedes> what do i need to do to install OOo now?
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Ng: mtr being?
[06:23] <Ng> matt's traceroute
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Ah.
[06:24] <Lukian> Armagguedes: dpkg -i filename
[06:24] <gnomefreak> ok im thinking i got answer i was looking for i hope
[06:25] <burning_bronx> I is back
[06:25] <Lukian> hey burning
[06:25] <Lukian> i'm off to bed when this dl is done
[06:25] <Lukian> that's ~1min
[06:25] <burning_bronx> what you dlin?
[06:25] <Lukian> wine :p
[06:26] <burning_bronx> lol
[06:26] <burning_bronx> you know how to operate wine?
[06:26] <Lukian> i'll figure it out :)
[06:26] <gnomefreak> good luck ;)
[06:26] <burning_bronx> good boy ;) read the manual and it'll be fine ;)
[06:26] <burning_bronx> that's how I learned :P
[06:26] <Lukian> fuck the manual! :D
[06:26] <Lukian> trial and error ftw
[06:26] <Lukian> :D
[06:26] <Lukian> hehe
[06:26] <burning_bronx> >.>
[06:27] <burning_bronx> man > world
[06:27] <Lukian> world would include man
[06:27] <Lukian> so man > man?
[06:27] <khermans> 8[06:27] <burning_bronx> hmm
[06:27] <burning_bronx> world >= man
[06:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[06:28] <burning_bronx> oops
[06:28] <Lukian> ni ni all
[06:28] <burning_bronx> I meant man >= world
[06:28] <burning_bronx> my bad
[06:28] <burning_bronx> night
[06:28] <thesaltydog> while upgradibg to dapper, it tries to remove xmkmf, together with a lot of stuff..
[06:29] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, it also wants to remove hotplug >.>
[06:29] <burning_bronx> cause it's OBSOLETE
[06:29] <thesaltydog> also
[06:29] <lnostdal> hello, when apt-get is about to upgrade stuff, is it possible to get more info about changes between versions of packages?
[06:29] <thesaltydog> but if I go ahead, I will get a lot of unment dependencies..
[06:30] <Denstark> hi
[06:30] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, you're doing dist-upgrade right?
[06:30] <thesaltydog> yep
[06:30] <burning_bronx> there should be no problem
[06:30] <thesaltydog> now I'm stuck.
[06:30] <Nastydog> Hi
[06:30] <thaytan> g'day
[06:31] <Nastydog> i need to configurate my internet
[06:31] <Nastydog> how i do
[06:31] <ninja> Having slight difficulties here.. I burned ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso to a disc with "burn image" in nero, but it's not bootable. What am I doing wrong?
[06:31] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, dapper doesn't use xmkmf currently >.>
[06:31] <lnostdal> Nastydog, in the menu  System -> Administration -> Networking
[06:31] <burning_bronx> cause it's using Xorg 7
[06:31] <thesaltydog> now I'm upgrading. I will tell you were it stops..
[06:32] <burning_bronx> I doubt there would be any problems
[06:32] <burning_bronx> :)
[06:32] <mp3guy> is there a way to get video thumbnail previews in nautilus?
[06:32] <Nastydog> and
[06:32] <burning_bronx> mp3guy, you get a frame from the video as thumbnail
[06:32] <freelove> i have a nice objective question to ask.........can i ask?? plz?
[06:32] <burning_bronx> isn't that what you need?
[06:32] <mp3guy> burning_bronx, how do i do that?
[06:32] <k0p> I have a webcam that use the spca5xx drivers, btw system freeze when cam is activate. Do you know if exists solution in the breezy?
[06:33] <lnostdal> mp3guy, Edit -> Preferences .. then check under the tab Preview
[06:33] <burning_bronx> mp3guy, it's in by default o_O;
[06:33] <asdc> anyone know what to do when you get a grub error 17 after doing a fresh install of ubuntu?
[06:33] <burning_bronx> tam
[06:33] <ofer0> asdc, reinstall grub?
[06:33] <burning_bronx> wrong window
[06:33] <freelove> whats the best distro after ubuntu (and all its derivatives)??
[06:34] <asdc> how would i do that?
[06:34] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, errors were encountered while processing locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb and all the language-pack-gnome
[06:34] <greenpenguin13> distrowatch
[06:34] <burning_bronx> freelove, depends on what you want as a distro
[06:34] <ninja2> Having slight difficulties here.. I burned ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso to a disc with "burn image" in nero, but it's not bootable. What am I doing wrong?
[06:34] <ofer0> freelove, there is no such thing as "best distro". there is the most suitable distro, and this is all about your personal choices
[06:34] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog >.>
[06:34] <burning_bronx> just finish the upgrade
[06:34] <thesaltydog> it stops there..
[06:34] <burning_bronx> it ends or it breaks?
[06:35] <thesaltydog> breaks.
[06:35] <burning_bronx> hmmm that shouldn't be the case o_O;
[06:35] <freelove> ofer0: hmmm....well said:)
[06:35] <ofer0> ninja2, check md5sum for the disc
[06:35] <ofer0> ninja2, and the iso image
[06:35] <asdc> so how would i reinstall grub without going through the entire ubuntu installation again?
[06:35] <thesaltydog> if I do apt-get -f install, it will re-install xmkmf...
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ninja2,  also check the disk with windows.. see what files are on it.
[06:36] <ofer0> asdc, you have a livecd of something ?
[06:36] <ofer0> thesaltydog, no, it won't. why would it?
[06:36] <Lemon-> asdc: u mean u cant go into ubuntu right?
[06:36] <thesaltydog> don't know. They are 30 minutes that I am cycling thru this.
[06:36] <asdc> i have an iso burned from the website if that answers your question
[06:37] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, the version of Xorg that dapper uses doesn't need xmkmf
[06:37] <Lemon-> asdc: no why do u want to reinstall grub?
[06:37] <burning_bronx> he gets an error 17
[06:37] <ofer0> Lemon-, he got grub error 17 on his first ubuntu boot
[06:37] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, ok. I believe you. But anyway I'm stuck. No breezy and no dapper.
[06:37] <asdc> im getting "error 17" when the installation reboots
[06:37] <Lemon-> huh?
[06:37] <Lemon-> what is erro17..
[06:37] <Lemon-> hmm
[06:37] <asdc> when grub tries to boot
[06:37] <gnomefreak> i always reinstalled ubuntu when i got that error
[06:38] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, have you backed up your files?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  harsh :p
[06:38] <asdc> i installed 3 times
[06:38] <Lemon-> did usearch on
[06:38] <Lemon-> google?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> asdc,  what other distros are on that pc?
[06:38] <thesaltydog> My files are in the /home partition. :-)
[06:38] <gnomefreak> "os's"
[06:38] <Lemon-> asdc, try search on google
[06:38] <asdc> non i reformatted the entire hard drive
[06:38] <asdc> none*
[06:38] <LiGhTeR> hi all can someone help me with the command that makes it possible to watch movies in ubuntu
[06:38] <gnomefreak> asdc,  are you planning on putting another one one?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> on*
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  xine, mplayer, vlc, and you wiill need to install the W32Codecs most likely
[06:39] <Lemon-> asdc, 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[06:39] <asdc> should i dual boot it with windows?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  or are you refrering to DVD movies. :P
[06:39] <Lemon-> is that the error u are getting?
[06:39] <LiGhTeR> no
[06:39] <asdc> yeah lemon
[06:39] <LiGhTeR> i want to install w32codec
[06:39] <gnomefreak> yes error 17
[06:40] <Lemon-> asdc, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[06:40] <Lemon-> try reading that
[06:40] <asdc> ok
[06:40] <Stormx2> is KDE GTK2.0?
[06:40] <funkyHat> asdc, when you were installing ubuntu, did you move the 'boot flag' from your windows partition to one of your linux partitions?
[06:40] <Stormx2> or GTK2 i should say
[06:40] <funkyHat> asdc, when you were at the partitioner stage
[06:40] <Eleaf> Stormx2, KDE is QT3/4
[06:40] <cmatheson> Stormx2: no, it's qt
[06:41] <Lemon-> Stormx2, GTK for gnome
[06:41] <Eleaf> qt's fun
[06:41] <Lemon-> Stormx2, QT for KDE
[06:41] <ga^vu> beginners question...again
[06:41] <ofer0> Stormx2, but of course, you can run GTK applications on KDE if you have the library installed.
[06:41] <burning_bronx> I dislike Qt
[06:41] <ga^vu> i've installed dchub...Where is it??
[06:41] <ofer0> Stormx2, ( and qt apps on gnome, of course... )
[06:41] <burning_bronx> and you can use Qt on Gnome if you have libqt
[06:41] <Stormx2> Right
[06:41] <Lemon-> ga^vu, type whereis dchub
[06:41] <Lemon-> on the console
[06:41] <Lemon-> :P
[06:42] <Stormx2> Cause Im sick of the chunky look of gnome. 1280x960 GNOME feels like 600x600 windows
[06:42] <ga^vu> ok..thanks...told ya i was a beginner :P
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ga^vu,  try typing dchub at console to run it
[06:42] <ofer0> Stormx2, use blackbox. it's much cleaner
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> chunky ?
[06:42] <vir> kubuntu = kde ( qt3/4)
[06:42] <Lemon-> Stormx2, then try KDE
[06:42] <burning_bronx> bah
[06:42] <Stormx2> Lemon-: i am
[06:42] <vir> ubuntu = gnome ( gtk )
[06:42] <Stormx2> ofer0: Blackbox, hmm, ok
[06:42] <Lemon-> Stormx2, or maybe Enlightenment
[06:42] <burning_bronx> the boxes are hard to customize
[06:42] <jc-denton> try 17
[06:42] <Mabus06> What's a good file destroyer for ubuntu?
[06:42] <jc-denton> it's leet
[06:43] <jc-denton> s/17/e17
[06:43] <burning_bronx> as they don't come with a desktop environment
[06:43] <Lemon-> its just for cool looking
[06:43] <Lemon-> :P
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> jc-denton,  and often runs for more then 10 min at a time now befor crashing!
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Mabus06,  hire me im good at screwing up files :)
[06:43] <vir> i personaly like gnome its good to customize
[06:43] <jc-denton> hehe
[06:43] <Lemon-> Mabus06, what do u mean?
[06:43] <sunshine82> hi i need help with ogg2mp3 i cant get it to work i dont know what im doin wrong any one that know abuout ogg2 mp3 please hjej[
[06:43] <ofer0> Stormx2, You should try some other WM and SM... Try fluxbox, XFCE, enlightenment, blackbox... see what's around you
[06:43] <jc-denton> Dr_Willis: i just wanted to participate at the flamewar
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> 'wmii' :P
[06:43] <Mabus06> Lemon-, deleting a file isn't really deleting it.
[06:43] <ofer0> sunshine82, hey :)
[06:43] <ofer0> sunshine82, you want to ogg -> mp3 ?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> jc-denton,  'matchbox' !
[06:44] <vir> Stormx2,  you could try xbuntu
[06:44] <Lemon-> Mabus06, oh
[06:44] <Lemon-> Mabus06, :P
[06:44] <Mabus06> It's still there. For instance, when I messed up my mp3 player, I could hear parts of songs from a long time ago.
[06:44] <Lemon-> vir, what is xbuntu?
[06:44] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, Xfce (xubuntu) is nice - it comes with the xfwm4
[06:44] <ofer0> Mabus06, everybody uses "shred".
[06:44] <Stormx2> ofer0: Tried fluxbox >.<
[06:44] <vir> xubuntu is xfce
[06:44] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: XFCE is nice but feels like gnome
[06:44] <Lemon-> vir, is there such thing? :P
[06:44] <jc-denton> fluxbox
[06:44] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, you want someting not even close to gnome?
[06:44] <burning_bronx> fluxbox.
[06:45] <ofer0> Mabus06, man shred for more details..
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> the anti-gnome!
[06:45] <burning_bronx> or openbox/e17
[06:45] <Lemon-> Stormx2, use "X" ^-^
[06:45] <Lemon-> =3=3=3
[06:45] <blanky> gnome is cool, but it gets boring on ubuntu since it's all gnome
[06:45] <burning_bronx> X >= all
[06:45] <blanky> lol yeah
[06:45] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Tried fluxbox >.< I don't understand it really though...
[06:45] <vir> e16 is better than e17 atm
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Dull and  useable! bah!
[06:45] <blanky> i liked how enlightenment was used in cs.edu.slax
[06:45] <sunshine82> offer0 yes i was told to download ogg2mp3 off sourceforge which i did
[06:45] <ofer0> Stormx2, All the light WMs and SMs needs a h-u-g-e configuration before you can use it
[06:46] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, thats maybe cause it doesn't have a desktop environement
[06:46] <sunshine82> ofer0 do u know a better way
[06:46] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: I figured that much.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Huge? nah.. just need to run xterms
[06:46] <burning_bronx> u see now a desktop environement is something like gnome, and a wm is something like metacity
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> and learn the shell like a real man
[06:46] <ofer0> sunshine82, give me 2 minutes to think about it
[06:46] <burning_bronx> u can change just the wm for gnome
[06:46] <sunshine82> ofer0 to change ogg to mp3
[06:46] <blanky> i wished i could get my englithenment to look like this slax' cs.edu.slax
[06:46] <burning_bronx> I use xfwm4 on gnome
[06:46] <blanky> http://charybde.homeunix.org/~schmitz/slax-csedu/
[06:46] <vir> desktop manager = xfce, gnome and kde
[06:46] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Ah cool. What advantage does that bring?
[06:47] <Lemon-> and Enlightenment
[06:47] <burning_bronx> faster window management?
[06:47] <burning_bronx> differnet window styles?
[06:47] <burning_bronx> yes to both
[06:47] <vir> window manager = window maker, e16, e17, meta ciity, fluxbox... openbox
[06:47] <gnomefreak> why is this so freaking hard :(
[06:47] <freelove> the one thing i hate in gnome are incomplete iconsets!
[06:47] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, what's hard?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  that shouldent be too hard.
[06:48] <blanky> really?
[06:48] <burning_bronx> I use the OSX iconset - it owns.
[06:48] <lnostdal> the freakin gnome
[06:48] <vir> gnomefreak,  whats hard?
[06:48] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: OK. I have xfce and I have gnome, how do I make the xfce wm my wm in gnome?
[06:48] <blanky> who likes kde over gnome here
[06:48] <ofer0> sunshine82, okay. you here?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> i tend to mix and match
[06:48] <burning_bronx> first of all the xfce wm is xfwm4
[06:48] <lnostdal> i haven't used kde in years .. but i like using k3b, which is an kde-app. ..
[06:49] <gnomefreak> im still trying to get that script to run just by typing logins in terminal but i have to have a "." in the path and hell i dont know how to do that and he asked me if i had a file in home/dir. named .bash_profile and i dont :(
[06:49] <burning_bronx> you first need to install it
[06:49] <Stormx2> I just want a space I can work in really... gnome just hogs it all up with GUI
[06:49] <ofer0> sunshine82, you do it like this: "oggdec file.ogg newfile.wav; lame newfile.wav"
[06:49] <Lemon-> lnostdal, i hope gnome develpers make some apps like K3b and amarok in gnome..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  then changeing the gnome window manager wont change that.
[06:49] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, then changing the wm wouldn't change much
[06:49] <tiglionabbit> Stormx2: why don't you remove the panels then?
[06:49] <Lemon-> lnostdal, i install KDE libs for those two apps
[06:49] <burning_bronx> it would improve performance
[06:49] <burning_bronx> nevertheless
[06:49] <Lemon-> lnostdal, wasting of spaces.. :P
[06:50] <mifritscher> hi
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  try somthning hard core like 'wmii' :P or "ratposion" or learn the various XYZbox's
[06:50] <Stormx2> Hmm
[06:50] <mifritscher> why does ubuntu create the /dev-tree in a tmfpfs?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> or remove the gnome panels you dont use. :P
[06:50] <lnostdal> Lemon-, sure .. they should cooperate more .. and use more common libraries for IPC and other stuff too .. that'b be great :)
[06:50] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, what "exactly" do you want?
[06:50] <lnostdal> Lemon-, i mean KDE and Gnome
[06:50] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: I want my screen to look like a usuable workable programming space but not ugly >.<
[06:50] <lnostdal> Lemon-, that way it wouldn't matter as much i think
[06:50] <LiGhTeR> Dr_Willis no im not refering to DVD :P =) i mean that when i write : sudo apt-get install w32codecs  it says that it can't find the package
[06:51] <LiGhTeR> and how do i do now =)
[06:51] <Lemon-> lnostdal, yeah. true.. :P
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  type !w32codecs and see what the bot says
[06:51] <vir> Stormx2, check out e17
[06:51] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, tell me what is preventing your desktop from being like that?
[06:51] <LiGhTeR> k
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  you need to add the right repos to get it
[06:51] <burning_bronx> in your opinion
[06:51] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: GNOME is chunky
[06:51] <funkyHat> lnostdal, and they should both scrap their sound daemon
[06:51] <Mabus06> thanks, ofer0
[06:51] <burning_bronx> chunky as in?
[06:51] <funkyHat> cos esd and arts both suck sack
[06:51] <Stormx2> Like
[06:51] <gnomefreak> heavy
[06:52] <gnomefreak> not lightweight
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  also vague terms. :P
[06:52] <gnomefreak> im thinking thats what Stormx2  meant
[06:52] <LiGhTeR> event not found
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:52] <LiGhTeR> Dr_Willis Event not found
[06:52] <Lemon-> :P
[06:52] <LiGhTeR> is all it says
[06:52] <Stormx2> >.< kinda differcult. But 1280x960 gnome feels like 800x600 windows, if you see what I mean (I bet you dont >.<)
[06:52] <freelove> wow in both channels we are having desktop manager wars:D
[06:52] <gnomefreak> lightweight try fluxbox or blackbox
[06:52] <ofer0> Mabus06, you are very welcome!
[06:52] <freelove> kde is better ;D
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  try !w32codec   - or heck.. just go to the ubuntu wiki and search for w32codec :P
[06:52] <Lemon-> Stormx2, because of two panels u mean?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> there are so many to choose from
[06:53] <burning_bronx> freelove, kde is bloated
[06:53] <burning_bronx> and heavy
[06:53] <Lemon-> ubunto
[06:53] <vir> kde crashes.... like windows
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> Stormx2: you don't make any sense.  If you don't like it, change it.  (btw, if you wanna see "windows", try icewm!  =P)
[06:53] <LiGhTeR> i done that but it still won't work :S
[06:53] <blanky> vir, YEAH!
[06:53] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, wget http://ilunix.org/myfiles/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[06:53] <Lemon-> ubotu, tell LiGhTeR about w32codec
[06:53] <blanky> vir, at least on ubuntu, that's the only place i've witnessed it in
[06:53] <vir> Stormx2,  http://sneakymustard.com/images/e17-dfly.png have a look at that
[06:53] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Although I do have two panels, I auto-hide one, and the other is only 24 pixels high
[06:53] <freelove> burning_bronx: for many its rock-solid
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> so 2 panels are taking up like 3% of the screen...
[06:53] <vir> Stormx2,  thats e17
[06:53] <Lemon-> Stormx2, i use gnome in resolution 1024X768
[06:54] <Lemon-> Stormx2, and i do work fine
[06:54] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, after you download it, "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" will get it installed. enjoy
[06:54] <LiGhTeR> thank you :D
[06:54] <Stormx2> vir: it looks pretty nice actually. i'll look into that.
[06:54] <burning_bronx> freelove, being solid doesn't make it less bloated & heavy
[06:54] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, you're welcome
[06:54] <vir> Stormx2,  its only still getting worked on but it is usable
[06:54] <Lemon-> -list
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Solid = my 1968 Dodge.
[06:54] <Lemon-> ubotu, list
[06:54] <ubotu> somebody said list was you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:55] <odat> quick question
[06:55] <Lemon-> ubotu, version
[06:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Lemon-
[06:55] <odat> how do i check what kind of graphics card i have?
[06:55] <Lemon-> ubotu, source
[06:55] <ubotu> it has been said that source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[06:55] <vir> Stormx2,  if you check the forums you'll find a how to... installl it
[06:55] <trappist> odat: lspci
[06:55] <Lemon-> ubotu, supybot
[06:55] <ubotu> Lemon-: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:55] <LiGhTeR> but will it fix that thing about ubuntu is locked for some legal stuff :S
[06:55] <Lemon-> ubotu, -help
[06:55] <ubotu> Lemon-: Are you smoking crack?
[06:55] <trappist> Lemon-: feel free to play with the bot in pmsg
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ha ha i do have a bash_profile  file :)
[06:55] <Lemon-> trappist, what is ubotu's version ?
[06:56] <trappist> I have no idea
[06:56] <freelove> burning_bronx: but u will agree that its more powerful & feature-filled..than gnome:)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> I like brown! :p
[06:56] <blanky> there should b a program/script that automates the process of installing a tar.gz
[06:56] <freelove> i hope too....
[06:56] <Lemon-> I hate the ubuntu theme
[06:56] <Lemon-> it sucks
[06:56] <Lemon-> :P
[06:56] <freelove> blanky: in kde u'll find such an app:)
[06:56] <blanky> extracts it to a temporary directory, runs configure, make, amke install
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> blanky,   and automate makeing the user read the install docs also!
[06:56] <trappist> blanky: not all tarballs install the same way
[06:57] <Lemon-> and i found out that dapper has the same theme!!!
[06:57] <blanky> Dr_Willis, lol
[06:57] <Lemon-> DAMN!
[06:57] <Lemon-> :P
[06:57] <blanky> trappist, oh, yeah i guess
[06:57] <vir> i prefer white i like it to be clean and user friendly more like mac os
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> and automate the user ranting in the irc channels about messing stuff up!
[06:57] <freelove> yeah...the stupid brown theme.when will they make it blue or white?
[06:57] <Lemon-> vir, same here
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> I want a Hot-Pink theme!
[06:57] <blanky> brb buddies, dont leave me
[06:57] <LiGhTeR> it still won't work :(:(
[06:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> man, I just blew up my sudoers file...is there an easy way to fix that in ubuntu?
[06:57] <Lemon-> freelove, i tried dapper flight cd 2 and the theme was same !
[06:57] <freelove> nooooooooooooo!
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> The_Isle_of_Mark,  blew up?
[06:57] <Lemon-> yes i know what u mean
[06:57] <Lemon-> .........
[06:57] <LiGhTeR> but im pretty sure about it is some wierd stuff about "if it is legal in your country"
[06:58] <vir> i'd like to see the ubuntu desktop image polished off....
[06:58] <Lemon-> i really hate that brown color
[06:58] <Lemon-> :(
[06:58] <freelove> BUT.........mark says the theme will change to blue soon:)
[06:58] <LiGhTeR> you have to lock up something
[06:58] <Lemon-> freelove, u sure?
[06:58] <labandus> ofer0,
[06:58] <Stormx2> So, what is new in Dapper?
[06:58] <ofer0> labandus, ?
[06:58] <LiGhTeR> and i cant remember the command i used on my desktop :(:(
[06:58] <labandus> ofer0,  are you still online??
[06:58] <tiglionabbit> Stormx2: have you tried changing your themes and such, and downloading more from gnome-look.org?
[06:58] <Lemon-> Stormx2, new kernel new programs :P
[06:58] <sunshine82> ofer0 i need to chane ogg to mp3 not wav
[06:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Dr_Willis, I use vi for my editor (say what you sih I love it) so I exported the editor from nano to vi for a visudo and some how it didnt work so I cant sudo now :(
[06:58] <freelove> Lemon-: ya i read in an interview of mark...
[06:58] <vir> the logo.... followed by ubuntu... spelt in different colours...with scan lines
[06:58] <labandus> i wanted you to send me this thing
[06:58] <Lemon-> freelove, hope they really change :P
[06:59] <ofer0> sunshine82, that's why I gave you the "lame" command. apt-get install lame
[06:59] <labandus> ofer0, i wanted you to send me this thing
[06:59] <Lemon-> freelove, i dont like brown... seriously
[06:59] <Eleaf> LAME
[06:59] <ofer0> labandus, okay, wait a second please
[06:59] <Lemon-> LAME!
[06:59] <LiGhTeR> Dr_willis any idee ??
[06:59] <freelove> ok temme fast.....whats ur fav gnome iconset & window border theme?
[06:59] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Ooh cool, what new programs?
[06:59] <Lemon-> ubotu, tell sunshine82 about lame
[06:59] <labandus> ofer0, ok
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> The_Isle_of_Mark,  theres some example sudoers files on the forums -  rescue mode/live cd.. and fix it. :()
[06:59] <Lemon-> Stormx2, firstly....
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  no clue what you are even doing now. :P
[06:59] <Lemon-> Stormx2, FIREFOX 1.5!!
[06:59] <ofer0> sunshine82, lame is for MP3 encoding, but first you need a WAV file.. you understand?
[06:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Dr_Willis, only way?
[06:59] <Lemon-> YAY~
[06:59] <vir> milk always looks good
[06:59] <vir> :)
[06:59] <freelove> i like dropline neu:)
[06:59] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Already got >.<
[07:00] <ofer0> sunshine82, install it, then run it on the wav file
[07:00] <Lemon-> Stormx2, and NEW kernel
[07:00] <Lemon-> which is more faster
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> The_Isle_of_Mark,  if you  messed it  up - ya gotta fix it. :P
[07:00] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Yay
[07:00] <Lemon-> Stormx2, new nautils !
[07:00] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Nautils?
[07:00] <Lemon-> Stormx2, which has search options ~_~
[07:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Dr_Willis, yep, ok thanks...I was wondering if there was an easy way
[07:00] <Lemon-> Stormx2, the file management program
[07:00] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Is that a build of nautilus or a typo?
[07:00] <Lemon-> + _+)
[07:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seeya
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> The_Isle_of_Mark,  its fairly easy. :P the file is like 2  lines.. rest is comments.
[07:01] <Lemon-> Stormx2, typo -_-
[07:01] <Lemon-> sorry -0-
[07:01] <vir> neowin.net  has some lovely desktops
[07:01] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis i don't think it is about codecs it is about something that are illegal in some states and legal in others don't know how to explain it better
[07:01] <Stormx2> Lemon-: haha ok. Sweet, new nautilus will be great
[07:01] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, what's the problem? you installed what i have gave you?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  no clue what you are even talking about.
[07:01] <Stormx2> Lemon-: I never finished my plugin to open a directory as root >.<
[07:01] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 yes i did
[07:01] <nico551> i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)
[07:02] <mititelu> hello, how can i make a swap partition and get ubuntu to use it after it has been installed, also... can i change FAT or NTFS partition to ext3 directly (with the data unchanged on the partition?)
[07:02] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Opening nautilus from nautilus is just damned confusing!!
[07:02] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 but it didn't hel anything
[07:02] <Lemon-> Stormx2, hahah :P
[07:02] <Lemon-> Stormx2, try ur best  ^^
[07:02] <Stormx2> Lemon-: it freaks out. it sends the right command but fails anyway
[07:02] <Stormx2> >.<
[07:02] <Lemon-> I really liked dapper
[07:02] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:02] <Lemon-> but
[07:02] <Lemon-> one thing...
[07:02] <Lemon-> THEME!!
[07:02] <Lemon-> ..
[07:02] <Lemon-> that is the only prob
[07:02] <Stormx2> Whats wrong with it?
[07:02] <ga^vu> if i've installed opendc...how do I use it?...cause...heeelp
[07:02] <Lemon-> otherwise its a fine DE
[07:02] <Lemon-> fine DIST
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> gee takes 10 sec to change themes.. :p
[07:03] <mititelu> hello, how can i make a swap partition and get ubuntu to use it after it has been installed, also... can i change FAT or NTFS partition to ext3 directly (with the data unchanged on the partition?)
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> mititelu,  may be easier to make a swap file.
[07:03] <Lemon-> gnome-arts is always there for you to change themes!
[07:03] <mititelu> how?
[07:03] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 im trying to look on a movie but i only get the sound :(:( i had the same prob on my desktop but i used a command from a site and it worked it was somwthing about some movies ain't allowed to be played in some states but in other states and ubuntu is locked and it was just to unlock it
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> mititelu,  a little googling will show ya exacrtly how to do it.
[07:04] <mititelu> ok, thanks
[07:04] <ofer0> mititelu, 1. create a partition using 'cfdisk', then 'mkswap' ans 'swapon' on it. 2. don't do it - it is risky.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> mititelu,  about 3 commands ya type.
[07:04] <frankzxgfj> hwy
[07:04] <frankzxgfj> hey
[07:04] <burning_bronx> that's what I get for not reading carefully the update package list
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> mititelu,  as fior the fat data... ewww...  not sure tahts doable.
[07:04] <mititelu> ofer0 why not do it? :-)
[07:04] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, You know which codec the movie uses ?
[07:04] <burning_bronx> flash memory doesn't automount
[07:04] <burning_bronx> "usb disk" doesn't automount
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  run the movie and player from the shell and watch the messages.
[07:05] <ofer0> mititelu, It can damage your data. You can do it through a windows app, like Partition Magic, but I don't know if that will work.
[07:05] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 actually no
[07:05] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, Can you give me it's filename ?
[07:05] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis there is no message it is just the sound from the movie
[07:05] <mititelu> ok, thanks a lot, i'll just copy somewhere else, partition and copy back
[07:05] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 video4
[07:05] <mititelu> thanks for the help!
[07:05] <sunshine82> ofer0 this is what u givin me oggdec file.ogg newfile.wav lame newfile.wav but i dont understand
[07:05] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, and please give me the output of "file movie", while movie=your movie filename
[07:05] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 .avi
[07:05] <frankzxgfj> is there any reposetory that also serves non-oss software, i am looking for skype...
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,   every video player ive tried spits out dozens of messages on the command line..  :P
[07:06] <ofer0> sunshine82, yeah. those are 2 different commands. the first one creates a wav file, and the other command replaces your wav file with the MP3 file. Understood ?
[07:06] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis well it aint spitting out a thing :S:S or it might just be me who is a total noob =)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  you are runnign it from the command line? or just double clicking....
[07:06] <ofer0> sunny256, 1. oggdec file.ogg file.wav. 2. lame file.wav
[07:06] <ofer0> sunshine82, , 1. oggdec file.ogg file.wav. 2. lame file.wav
[07:07] <LiGhTeR> im double clicking =)
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  and i said several times.. :P from the 'terminal/command line/shell' :P
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  time to learn the shell funamentals!
[07:08] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis well as i said im a total noob still trying to learn linux =)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  you did use the shell and insalled that w32codec package?
[07:08] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis yes i did and it worked fine
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  then find your video file and use a command like...
[07:08] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis but it still don't work :(:(
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,    xine filetoplay.avi
[07:09] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis okeje
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> or whatever player youi are using.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> its thtat simple. :P
[07:09] <LiGhTeR> i try it
[07:09] <gnomefreak> when i change  my bash_profile file do i need to run anything like update-bash_profile or something?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  it will most likely spit out what codec's it sees in the file and trying to use.
[07:09] <ofer0> labandus,
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  its read only on new logins
[07:09] <gnomefreak> i used gedit
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  the .bash_profile is ran ONLY by 'login' shells.  .bashrc is read by all new shells.
[07:10] <burning_bronx> why the fawk this isn't working
[07:10] <ofer0> cya everybody
[07:10] <ofer0> LiGhTeR, learn how to use the shell - it's stronger than you think
[07:11] <LiGhTeR> ofer0 well thats what i want to do but it aint easy :P
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> easy? its trivial.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> how hard is   "programtorun  filetouse"  :P
[07:11] <LiGhTeR> Dr_willis im sending a screen dump if it is ok ?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Unlearning the windows-zombie-mentality is hard.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  just look for some lines mentioning codecs
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Most likely the video is in some odd funky codec.
[07:12] <LiGhTeR> Dr_willis all it mention is that it cant open the dvd
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  you said you were playing a file earlier. not a dvd
[07:12] <LiGhTeR> Dr_willis it is a file
[07:12] <gnomefreak> well damnit i added the "." like he said and i still have to use ./file to run it :(
[07:12] <LiGhTeR> Dr_willis but it says that it cant open/read the dvd :S:S
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  you are trying to add the current dir to the path?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> i think so :(
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  what program are you using anyway? whats the exact command line.
[07:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Dr_Willis, hey that wasnt too bad at all...in failsafe I just visudoed in the default nano (BLECH!) and fixed the crazy characters that somehow got in there
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  'think' ?
[07:13] <sunshine82> ofer0 it givin me an error it sayin no such file or directory
[07:13] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis im using vlc to open the file
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  so whats the command line you are using?
[07:14] <sunshine82> ofer0 failed to open input file
[07:14] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, I have fixed all things running aptitude instead of apt-get..
[07:14] <docgnome> I've got an ATI Radeon 9600SE and I've installed the fglrx drivers from ATI... but OpenGL apps still run terribly slow and jerky
[07:14] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis im not using command line (uncept the one u told me) vlc video4.avi
[07:14] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, they are actually both doing the same just in a diff way
[07:14] <burning_bronx> whatever works for you
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  and its saying file not found?
[07:15] <burning_bronx> that's the beauty of linux ;)
[07:15] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, yes i am i made a script "logins" and im trying to run it by just typing "logins" without the "" but it still only runs using ./logins
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  why not make a /home/user/bin dir and put it in there?
[07:15] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, but with apt-get I was getting breaks during the upgrade. aptitude has a better dependencies control system.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  or make an alias for it.
[07:15] <tabasko> hi o/
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  your way - you will have to 'cd' to where its at.. then run it.
[07:16] <burning_bronx> lol thesaltydog they both get the dependencies from the same place
[07:16] <burning_bronx> XD
[07:16] <tabasko> can somebody help me with nvidia drivers?
[07:16] <thesaltydog> ok. anyway, now it works.
[07:16] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, in any case they are not the same. Look in the debian docs.
[07:16] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis no it says:  file or katalog don't exist  libdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD
[07:17] <gnomefreak> oh ok so take the "." out of the file i put it in and make a dir. named home/user/bin and save the file there?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  just run  the  vlc program and use its load/file menu :) to select the file
[07:17] <GoTeK> hi
[07:17] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis main input error: no suitable access module for 'video4.avi'
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  i THINK you are making this way toooo hard.  lol but thats the basics of it.
[07:18] <GoTeK> can any1 tell me how to change Clearlooks window border color
[07:18] <GoTeK> by default it is blue
[07:18] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis i done that but it still just plays the sound :(:(
[07:18] <GoTeK> i'd like 2 change it
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  now the command vlc -vvvv or ( --vvv) will give a LOT more output..
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  but it all boils down to - some funkuy video codec is my guess
[07:19] <GoTeK> is it an hexa valur in /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc    ?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  i have several video files that i cant play under Ubuntu/Linux at the moment. :(
[07:19] <GoTeK> can(t find the hexa value
[07:19] <GoTeK> any1 can help ?
[07:20] <LiGhTeR> dr_williz ok well i know what the prob is it is just that i cant find the homepage that had the command line ::(:(
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  oh? whats the prob then?
[07:21] <kotton> CAN-O-WORMS:  kenswanson here, thank you for your help this morning, I learned a lot, tough being a newbie in ubuntu
[07:21] <LiGhTeR> dr_williss it is something about ubuntu is locked to not play some movies without license to them something like that
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, the command is mkdir /home/user/bin isnt it im trying to recall it from memory
[07:21] <tabasko> so, can someone help with nvidia 3d accelleration? :/
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  i find that VERY hard to belive.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  well you do want to use your users name fior 'user' :P
[07:22] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:22] <gnomefreak> but that command is right?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> cd
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> mkdir bin
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> there ya go. :P
[07:22] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis i'm not sure but i know it sayed something about "in some countries it is legal to use if you live in one of those countires use the following command ....."
[07:22] <sunshine82> ofer0 i dont understand why it playin but i cant get oggdec file.ogg to work
[07:22] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis it helped on my desktop =)
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  first id ever heard of vlc doing that...       normally those warnings are when you download/install stuff.
[07:23] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis it is not vlc who is locked it is ubuntu
[07:23] <asdc> Grub error 18 now :(
[07:23] <kotton> I installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?
[07:23] <sunshine82> lemon do u have any ideas the computer doesnt recognize the artist how do i fix this the track playing though but i cant get oggdec to work
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  that makes even LESS sence.
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  unless you are refering to DVDplayer region locking.
[07:24] <gnomefreak> what is home? isnt it ~/ or something like that?
[07:24] <GoTeK> can any1 tell me how to change Clearlooks window border color ?
[07:24] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis well it might be that =)
[07:24] <slew> hi, how can i change the sound theme?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  and you are not playing a dvd.. :P so... actually most players have a work around for that I belive.
[07:25] <LiGhTeR> dr_willis well i don't know :P i just know that the command helped me out on my desktop and i hope it can on my laptop to =) :P: :D
[07:25] <holycow> guys, someone has to put this into the wiki: http://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14
[07:26] <holycow> simply the best instructions on how to setup twinview ever
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> LiGhTeR,  try the 'history' command in the shell on the pc it worked.. and see what you typed
[07:26] <gregr> hola!
[07:26] <LiGhTeR> ok
[07:26] <senthil> Please help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie
[07:26] <senthil> Please help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie
[07:26] <senthil> Please help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie
[07:26] <trappist> stop it.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> senthil,  #1 - flooding liek that gets you ignroed.
[07:26] <trappist> or worse
[07:26] <gregr> yep
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> senthil,  #2 - crying you are a newbie - doesnet help much either.
[07:27] <kotton> :-" I installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?
[07:27] <selinium> senthil, try not to enrage the channel! :)
[07:27] <jsor> is there a good way to make an iso (with mkisofs) so that the files look 'right' in both windows and linux?  I tried rock ridge file names, but windows doesn't seem to like it
[07:27] <selinium> senthil, are you using Firefox?
[07:27] <senthil> selinium, Yp
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> jsor,  perhaps 'udf'  file system? ive never really had any issues with the names.
[07:28] <gregr> Hello,, I just installed edu Ubuntu. Works great as it stands.. But Im trying to access the scooltool and cant figure out how? I looked at the Package management and see that it is installed but not sure how to access?
[07:28] <selinium> ok, you need to sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[07:29] <gnomefreak> ok the file is in the new dir. and its still not running do i need to cd to bin?
[07:29] <jsor> Dr_Willis, I'll take a look at udf.  the name problem is that it shortens the file names to 8.3 format, although they appear correctly on linux
[07:29] <gnomefreak> nope :(
[07:29] <selinium> senthil, ^^^
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> jsor,  ahh... yea.. thers some basic rockridge i think that does that.. then the newer ones take care of it.
[07:30] <slew> gnomefreak-> do you know how to change the sound theme?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> no slew
[07:30] <slew> k thanks
[07:30] <senthil> selinium, Its says mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> jsor,  ive only had issues with files with Huge-long file names and funky chars.
[07:30] <selinium> senthil, ok, thats fine
[07:30] <selinium> senthil, So has it completed?
[07:31] <senthil> selinium, Now what should i do ?
[07:31] <selinium> senthil, you will need the W32codecs as well
[07:31] <senthil> selinium, I can watch for a 2 mins after that its stopped working. I had already installed w32codecs
[07:32] <pawel> gnomefreak: I am not so sure if there are sound themes for Gnome, but you can change sounds for each event in Panel -> System -> Preferences -> Sound if this is enough for you.
[07:32] <senthil> selinium, Its a WMV file
[07:32] <jsor> Dr_Willis, thanks for your help.  I think I need to take another look at what rock ridge is doind
[07:32] <kotton>  installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> pawel, im not trying to change them
[07:32] <senthil> selinium, It downloads directly and play. By default it took totem player
[07:33] <selinium> senthil, strange... It works for a while then stops? Or it has stopped completely now...
[07:33] <gnomefreak> slew is
[07:33] <ferenc> hello
[07:33] <slew> pawel thanks
[07:33] <senthil> selinium, See in windows media player it first buffer for some time and stops then its again buffer for some more time
[07:34] <pawel> gnomefreak: aah.
[07:34] <ferenc> how do i create a Starter that logs the user out?
[07:34] <pawel> gnomefreak: sorry. ;)
[07:34] <selinium> senthil, If you right click on the file, then select mplyer from the Open With tab
[07:34] <pawel> slew: does it help? :)
[07:34] <ferenc> does anybody know the command?
[07:34] <senthil> selinium, Similarly its buffer for the first time and stopped working
[07:34] <gnomefreak> its ok
[07:34] <ninja2> The ubuntu install freezes for me, just after it loads something like "detecting partitions" or whatever... It just stops. Could it be because I have S-ATA drives?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> ferenc,  i diont think we know what you are refering to 'a starter'
[07:34] <slew> pawel its a start! thats all i need =] 
[07:34] <ferenc> an icon on the desktop
[07:35] <senthil> selinium, Its not giving option to open with Mplayer
[07:35] <selinium> ?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> ferenc,  gee users cant handle using the menus eh? actually there may be some special buttons you can add to the panel that do that...
[07:35] <ninja2> ?
[07:35] <senthil> selinium, Is there any way to make this Mplayer as default ?
[07:35] <coNP> ferenc: I think you can't move it to the desktop, altough you can create a button on the panel
[07:35] <selinium> senthil, the way I just described!
[07:35] <ferenc> i know
[07:36] <lenin1> heyy
[07:36] <ferenc> they can use the menu bar
[07:36] <selinium> senthil, pm?
[07:36] <ferenc> but i want to make it as easy as possible
[07:36] <lenin1> i need some help im bigginer in this
[07:36] <coNP> ferenc: put a button to the panel
[07:36] <senthil> selinium, PM means ?
[07:36] <ferenc> but it is to small
[07:36] <selinium> senthil, private mesage?
[07:36] <lenin1> please
[07:37] <pashaw> lenin1,  just ask
[07:37] <selinium> senthil, It means we can do this without all the other messages going past.
[07:38] <Klondike> Hi, is this where I can ask about an Ubuntu installation issue? (Can't detect network interface)
[07:38] <senthil> selinium, I understand and said hi
[07:38] <lenin1> idont know nothing about linux i wannna to know some thing
[07:38] <lenin1> pashaw
[07:39] <pashaw> lenin1,  know what?
[07:39] <LiGhTeR> lldr_willis well i give up now :(:(
[07:39] <lenin1> how to used
[07:39] <Klondike> Well, I just bought a new Dell computer, arrived today, and have every intention of wiping it clean and installing Ubuntu.
[07:39] <coNP> ferenc: you can make a new panel, 120px high, and put it in the middle of the desktop
[07:40] <Klondike> But, my Intel PRO/1000 network adapter apparently isn't detected during the Ubuntu installation procedure.
[07:40] <lenin1> are you espert in linux
[07:40] <Klondike> I've located drivers for Linux from intel for the Linux kernel 2.6.x and below, but I'm not sure how I would get the Ubuntu installer to even use them
[07:40] <lenin1> like ubuntu
[07:40] <selinium> senthil, I think you need to log your nick.   no worries we can do it here..    in a terminal  sudo dpkg -l "*mplayer*"|grep ii    and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:40] <Klondike> If anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd be much obliged.
[07:40] <selinium> senthil, let me know the link
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  i added the dir and re-wrote the script and put it in the bin file and now i have to cd bin than ./logins to run it im trying to avoid cd'ing and also trying to avoid the ./ command
[07:41] <pashaw> lenin1, this is not a teaching channel   you can find linux guides off  http://www.google.com   search-> linux guides
[07:42] <lenin1> ok my friend
[07:42] <senthil> selinium, What link do you want ?
[07:42] <Klondike> So, no one has any ideas on how to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize my network interface?
[07:43] <selinium> senthil, Have you put the output in pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:43] <pashaw> Klondike, in a terminal type   lspci   does it list your network card
[07:44] <senthil> selinium, Yep
[07:44] <senthil> selinium, Please go ahead and check it out
[07:45] <Klondike> Well, I'm in Windows right now, since I couldn't install Ubuntu
[07:45] <sunshine82> ofer0
[07:45] <gregr> anyone know how to access the school tool and school bell in edu ubuntu?
[07:45] <Klondike> And Windows seems to have no problem with it
[07:45] <yggdrasil> ello gents
[07:45] <gregr> hello
[07:45] <ubuntu> hi
[07:45] <Klondike> Hello
[07:45] <Klondike> Is there any way for me to supplement the Ubuntu installer with extra driver packages that I've found on the Internet?
[07:47] <pashaw> Klondike, the card you have should already be a module in the kernel
[07:47] <ubuntu> irc.red-latina.org
[07:47] <Bjoern-Erik> I am wondering, is there any way i can make Konversation use ISO8859-15?
[07:47] <Klondike> That's what I assumed
[07:48] <Klondike> So the drivers are likely there, then
[07:48] <Klondike> Is there any other reason the installer might not see it...?
[07:48] <pashaw> Klondike, using lspci   and lsmod  you can locate the module Ubuntu is attempting to use
[07:48] <Klondike> Can I do that during the install?
[07:48] <selinium> senthil: OK right click on the wmv file and got the Open With Tab
[07:48] <senthil> Yes
[07:49] <gregr> how can i tell if apache is running...?
[07:49] <selinium> senthil, Then click on the add button. Select mplayer.
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Klondike,  is ubuntu not installing?
[07:49] <Klondike> It doesn't detect my network interface
[07:49] <Klondike> I just found this forum post about my exact issue, posted 5 hours ago
[07:49] <Klondike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107105
[07:49] <Klondike> Says the driver is out of date
[07:49] <rinzai-shu> gregr: ps auxc | grep apache2
[07:49] <yggdrasil> man linux is pretty amazing
[07:49] <gregr> ty
[07:49] <gregr> yes it is
[07:50] <dieffel> hello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:50] <yggdrasil> starmax 3000/180
[07:50] <yggdrasil> who said you cant polish a terd
[07:50] <korhalf> do you guys find earbud headphones to kinda make the ear sore after a while?
[07:50] <rinzai-shu> yggdrasil: yes it is!  cat /dev/urandom | hallelujah
[07:50] <korhalf> i mean i cant listen for more than 30 minutes to my frickin mp3 player and these are some Sennheiser 400MX headphones
[07:50] <Klondike> Hmm, yeah, this site also says that Breezy's driver for e1000 is outdated
[07:50] <Klondike> http://blog.dataloss.nl/perma/ubuntu-510-breezy-on-dell-dimension-9150/
[07:51] <Klondike> And it provides a compiled e1000.ko driver
[07:51] <Klondike> But how do I get the Ubuntu installer to use this?
[07:51] <yggdrasil> so i got it all good but the video onboard is a um mach 64
[07:51] <Seveas> Klondike, during install wget and insmod it
[07:51] <senthil> selinium, I don't see add button
[07:51] <yggdrasil> im jsut wondering if anyone her has any expericen with x and dual vid cards
[07:52] <gnomefreak> im looking at the download page for thedrivers
[07:52] <dieffel> hello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:52] <Klondike> Will wget work though?  It's my network card that's not being recognized
[07:53] <Benix> hi
[07:53] <Seveas> Klondike, hmm, good point
[07:53] <Denstark> I installed win32codecs but totem still won't play .wmv files... /cr
[07:53] <Seveas> Denstark, try mplayer/totem-xine
[07:53] <pagan> you are online tho aren't you Klondike?
[07:53] <Denstark> will do, thanks =D
[07:53] <Seveas> Klondike, floppy, other hard disk partition?
[07:54] <Seveas> usb disk even
[07:54] <selinium> senthil: one moment
[07:54] <pagan> burn cd?
[07:54] <Benix> What is the package name of the acx driver?
[07:54] <senthil> selinium, ok
[07:54] <senthil> selinium, Please help me to fix this problem...
[07:54] <Klondike> I'm on my current Windows installation
[07:54] <Klondike> Which I am intending to wipe when I install Ubuntu
[07:54] <Klondike> hmm
[07:55] <Klondike> I don't have a floppy drive
[07:55] <Seveas> usb stick then :)
[07:55] <Klondike> My other hard disk needs an IDE->SATA driver...well, I have an iPod ;)
[07:55] <pagan> Klondike: i'm sorry ignore my smart(_!_) was j/k
[07:55] <selinium> senthil, I am just doing something for ya..
[07:55] <Klondike> That's the only USB drive I have right now
[07:55] <Klondike> I could try to find someone's to borrow though.
[07:55] <senthil> selinium, ok
[07:55] <Klondike> pagan: :)
[07:56] <Klondike> Do you think my iPod would be recognized as a USB drive?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> How can I put spaces between entry lines in a grub menu?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Or comments describing the options below?
[07:56] <pagan> Klondike: just glad you have a sense "O" humor...some don't ouch *ducks* "QUACK"
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> !grub
[07:56] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:56] <gregr> I ran  ps auxc | grep apache2 and it just dropped to the next line.. so it looks as if it is not running... I did a ps auxc and saw a running list, but no apache.
[07:56] <pashaw> Klondike, if you have to borrow parts   may as well borrow an older network card -instal-   then recompile with new e1000 driver
[07:56] <Klondike> Heh
[07:56] <Klondike> Yeah
[07:56] <Klondike> I could do that
[07:57] <Klondike> I could strip the one from my older computer
[07:57] <pashaw> Klondike, i do that all the time
[07:57] <monster> hello
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Hi monster.
[07:57] <Klondike> Now don't laugh at this, but do you mean recompiling the kernel?
[07:57] <Anth0ny_> is it possible to live monitor in/out-going TCP/IP connections?
[07:57] <Klondike> And...is that difficult?
[07:57] <Klondike> I'm familair with Linux/Unix systems but I've never recompiled the kernel
[07:57] <monster> hey what r yall talking about
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> monster: Ubuntu Linux, generally.
[07:58] <pagan> Klondike: that is what I would do. I had some crazy 3com clone card made in japan and could not for life of me get it installed..$20 later I got smart :)
[07:58] <Seveas> Anth0ny_, tcpdump, ethereal...
[07:58] <pashaw> Klondike, its tough  but you learn alot    just don't delete anything referencing your current kernel
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> monster: Currently, recompiling kernels, grub, and apache, it seems.
[07:58] <pashaw> Klondike,  that way you can always go back to it
[07:58] <monster> ha wanna hear something funny
[07:58] <pagan> monster: sure :)
[07:58] <Anth0ny_> Seveas, thx
[07:59] <selinium> senthil, http://82.45.118.133/images/Screenshot1.png   here it is!
[07:59] <pashaw> Klondike, that page you referenced  mentions that was his long term solution
[07:59] <gix> sera
[07:59] <monster> my sister just put it on my compter i have no idea how to work it
[07:59] <pagan> hehehe I like names like Sneaky_Bastard <---hehehe
[08:00] <burning_bronx> yo pplz
[08:00] <pagan> monster: what? ubuntu?
[08:00] <senthil> selinium, Tell me how can i get this ?
[08:00] <monster> yea
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> monster: Good for your sister.  Don't worry, it's not too hard.
[08:00] <pagan> monster: what did you have on there before?
[08:00] <dieffel> hello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?
[08:00] <senthil> selinium, from where i can get this window ?
[08:00] <burning_bronx> anyone knows why automounting USB drives is screwed up in latest dapper?
[08:00] <monster> puppy linux
[08:00] <jordo23> Is there a command that I can run to check if my workstation is connected to our domain?
[08:00] <selinium> senthil, right click on the WMV file and click properties
[08:01] <pagan> monster: she did you a favor..give her a hug :)
[08:01] <monster> ha ha
[08:01] <CaptainMorgan> !w32 codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> [w32 codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:01] <odat> need help with sound
[08:01] <burning_bronx> pagan, you still around >.>
[08:01] <Klondike> Okay, I strippe dout the old card
[08:02] <Klondike> Pagan: Thanks for the advice
[08:02] <jordo23> Anyone?
[08:02] <burning_bronx> doesn't your wife beat on you for spending so much time on the PC
[08:02] <burning_bronx> >.>
[08:02] <pagan> monster: I have tried quit a few distros but I must say this one was least broken one out of the bunch...and well no KDE tripe *ducks* :P```
[08:02] <monster> odat trying pluging in different plug worked on mine
[08:02] <Klondike> I'm going to put in the old network card and install using that
[08:02] <selinium> pagan: Flame Flame Flame Flame.... :)
[08:03] <pagan> burning_: you talking to me? ...hmmm! must know my wife LOL
[08:03] <Klondike> Pagan: is it really necessary to reinstall the kernel just to switch one's network card?
[08:03] <trappist> Klondike: no
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> monster: Do you have anything in particular you need help figuring out right now then?
[08:03] <burning_bronx> there ain't no other pagans here ;)
[08:03] <pagan> no
[08:03] <monster> no y
[08:03] <burning_bronx> I am an atheist
[08:03] <Klondike> Well...all right then :)
[08:04] <pagan> ya I am the only lil pagan in da room..gee head kick me g'head (_!_)
[08:04] <Klondike> OK, I'm going to give this a try then.
[08:04] <burning_bronx> they tried to draw me into Asatru but neopaganism just isn't my thing
[08:04] <Klondike> Hopefully I'll be back with Ubuntu.
[08:04] <monster> what is a pagan??
[08:04] <Klondike> Peace!
[08:04] <slide> Firefox 1.5 sometimes opens pages in another window, but it didnt mean to i don think. Because if I try to close the window it crashes. Anyone else have this happen to them?
[08:04] <Klondike> and thanks again!
[08:04] <holycow> does anyone have a copy of alacarte? the project website is down
[08:04] <odat> anyone able to help me track down a sound problem?
[08:04] <Am|School> *cough*Christmas is a pagan holiday*cough*
[08:04] <holycow> and there it is
[08:04] <holycow> heh
[08:04] <Am|School> holycow: what?
[08:04] <pagan> monster: a pagan is any religion that is not christian
[08:04] <burning_bronx> Amaranth, I know
[08:05] <CaptainMorgan> why do I always have bithc of  time installing codecs? I follow it.. dpkg it.. and totem stil can't display it..
[08:05] <Am|School> holycow: it was working when i left for school, i hope my site didn't die :P
[08:05] <burning_bronx> Am|School, I meant
[08:05] <monster> i know what an atheist is but wow
[08:05] <holycow> Am|School, just came back up :)
[08:05] <pagan> e.g. jewish <--pagan in christians eyes
[08:05] <monster> oh ok
[08:05] <burning_bronx> everything is pagan in jewish eyes
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> pagan: Well, I don't know about that definition.
[08:05] <Am|School> holycow: might have been down while the admin fixed the logging scripts
[08:05] <senthil> selinium, I appreciate your patience. Sorry to offend you still its not working.I can open a WMV file which is located in my harddisk
[08:05] <slide> a person who follows a polytheistic or pre-Christian religion (not a Christian or Muslim or Jew)
[08:05] <pagan> lol burning
[08:05] <trappist> take the religion to #ubuntu-offtopic kthx
[08:05] <slew> prolly not a good idea to talk about religion..
[08:05] <burning_bronx> but norse relagions > other pagans
[08:05] <burning_bronx> :P
[08:05] <burning_bronx> *religions
[08:05] <Benix> What is the name of the ubuntu acx driver package?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> pagan: I'm Christian, and certainly wouldn't catagorize Judaism as pagan.
[08:05] <holycow> Am|School, no worries brotha, just glad ot have a copy of that cool app :)
[08:06] <senthil> selinium, But i'm not able to open a WMV file from internet
[08:06] <selinium> senthil, No offence! @_
[08:06] <selinium> :)
[08:06] <hardbop200> hey all - got a question about kernels in Ubuntu
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> pagan: Old Norse stuff though, sur.
[08:06] <Seveas> hardbop200, ask away
[08:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> tonyyarusso: correct
[08:06] <hardbop200> pagan kernels
[08:06] <hardbop200> :)
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> *sure.
[08:06] <Am|School> holycow: :)
[08:06] <burning_bronx> yeah
[08:06] <selinium> senthil, Can you give me a for instance...
[08:06] <pagan> <---am just a witch..and no am not wiccan..not that I have any probs with the religion wicca ..nah! just the wiccans that get on my nerves :D
[08:06] <Seveas> religion -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:06] <Am|School> holycow: btw, what do you think of the layout on that site?
[08:06] <burning_bronx> btw each day of the weak has a pagan name
[08:06] <CaptainMorgan> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg >> can't find packages and I have all repositories checked.... wth?
[08:06] <trappist> pagan: offtopic.
[08:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> "pagan" is anything outside the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sphere
[08:06] <senthil> selinium, Sure Sir
[08:06] <selinium> senthil, An URL, please :)
[08:06] <trappist> burning_bronx: offtopic.
[08:07] <trappist> Sneaky_Bastard: offtopic.
[08:07] <Am|School> *sigh*
[08:07] <burning_bronx> trappist, what's the topic?
[08:07] <Am|School> I ruined it. :P
[08:07] <hardbop200> j/k - does Ubuntu have any of the -rt patches for multimedia use in the standard repository?
[08:07] <holycow> Am|School, crisp, clean, easy to read :)
[08:07] <pagan> ya ya I am known for flyin way off topic so sorry ...bows to the powers that be (_!_)
[08:07] <senthil> selinium, Do you have yahoo id ?
[08:07] <trappist> burning_bronx: /topic smartass
[08:07] <monster> well bye
[08:07] <senthil> selinium, or hotmail id ?
[08:07] <holycow> i like it, don't need much more than that
[08:07] <Seveas> hardbop200, no it has not
[08:07] <burning_bronx> trappist, you are being a smartass indeed
[08:07] <burning_bronx> >.>
[08:07] <selinium> senthil, sorry, no.  hotmail yes.
[08:07] <Am|School> holycow: tango icons make everything pretty :)
[08:08] <Seveas> tango ie cool
[08:08] <Seveas> is*
[08:08] <CaptainMorgan> is anybody on topic in here anymore ?
[08:08] <burning_bronx> Seveas, have you any idea why automounting of USB drives got broken?
[08:08] <benplaut> tango is awesome, but the folder icons suck =|
[08:08] <burning_bronx> if you use dapper that is
[08:08] <hardbop200> Seveas:  thank you; so am I going to have to build everything by hand, or is it possible to use a Agnula kernel?
[08:08] <Sneaky_Bastard> what's this ?
[08:08] <Seveas> BurgerMann, no clue
[08:08] <pagan> trappist: nothing like smartass... my fav site www.smartass.com
[08:08] <senthil> selinium, http://www.chrisgeary.co.uk/wrestling/sets/OilWrestlingLeeChris/Video/ChrisGeary_OilWrestling_56.wmv
[08:08] <Sneaky_Bastard> who kicked me ?
[08:08] <benplaut> thus, mixing tango and Humility mod rocks :)
[08:08] <holycow> Am|School, oh haha! i was wondering why they looked familiar
[08:08] <holycow> nice
[08:08] <Seveas> burning_bronx, no clue about the usb thing
[08:08] <Am|School> benplaut: the folder icons aren't grey anymore
[08:09] <pagan> lick my nuts booter
[08:09] <benplaut> they aren't?
[08:09] <burning_bronx> I can still pmount it
[08:09] <burning_bronx> but that's uncool
[08:09] <burning_bronx> I like automounting better
[08:09] <Seveas> hardbop200, agnula seems to wirk
[08:09] <Seveas> burning_bronx, dapper?
[08:09] <burning_bronx> dapper drake
[08:09] <burning_bronx> ?
[08:09] <Seveas> are you using dapper?
[08:09] <burning_bronx> yeh
[08:09] <hardbop200> Seveas, thanks, I'll definately give it a try.
[08:09] <pagan> the ones holding my motheboard in my box just so i am not off topic
[08:09] <cmatheson> BurgerMann: dapper's not supported...
[08:10] <selinium> senthil, you shoudl of sent that in a msg    to send a msg for only my eyes   /msg selinium   <blah blah blah>
[08:10] <burning_bronx> cmatheson, what's not supported?
[08:10] <benplaut> thank you, Seveas
[08:10] <cmatheson> burning_bronx: using dapper
[08:10] <burning_bronx> not supported by what?
[08:10] <SantaD1> hows dapper going?
[08:10] <Seveas> burning_bronx, afaik there are a few issues with that in dapper
[08:10] <cmatheson> burning_bronx: irc, mailing lists, etc.
[08:10] <Am|School> benplaut: http://tango-project.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/places/folder.png
[08:10] <mc|amb> help!. i cannot start x. i get this error xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice    No such file or directory.
[08:10] <burning_bronx> so IRC shouldn't work in dapper? tell it to xchat 2.6.0
[08:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[08:11] <odat> onboard sound not being detected any suggestions
[08:11] <Seveas> mc|amb, modprobe psmouse
[08:11] <benplaut> Am|School: sweet!
[08:11] <_oP> hello all
[08:11] <mc|amb> Seveas, I've done that without getting a good result.
[08:11] <burning_bronx> !dapper
[08:11] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:11] <ninja2> Hey.. I get an error when installing Ubuntu. It says "cannot install initrd-tools" ... What is wrong?
[08:12] <selinium> senthil, So when you open it in Fire fox, does it have am Mplayer logo in the top left of the screen?
[08:12] <Seveas> ninja2, bad cd probably
[08:12] <ninja2> Ok
[08:12] <senthil> selinium, nope
[08:12] <_oP> @ninja2 not shure but have u disabled the virus protection in bios ? because this blocks writing to mbr
[08:12] <Llewxam> can anyone help me with this error: configure: error: Can't find the -lglut library.
[08:12] <selinium> senthil, right click on the screen what does it say?
[08:12] <Llewxam>  when i check synaptic i have freeglut and libglut installed.
[08:13] <Seveas> Llewxam, install the -dev packages
[08:13] <Seveas> !tell Llewxam about compiling
[08:13] <senthil> selinium, Open, Open in tab , Another link ......
[08:13] <SantaD1> Llewxam: maybe you're missing the -dev libraries?
[08:13] <_oP> @ninja2 but activate it after installation again!
[08:13] <Llewxam> for both?
[08:13] <mc|amb> Seveas, I also get : Fatal IO Error 104  (connection reseted by peer) on xserver ....
[08:13] <Llewxam> yea i am... for both.... -.-
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> Anyone familiar with Grub?
[08:14] <Seveas> !anyone
[08:14] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:14] <SantaD1> my favorite time!
[08:14] <selinium> senthil can you type   ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/  and put the output in the pastebin
[08:15] <_oP> how do i play multible sounds on breezy - artsdsp -m command will not work , i have seen there is this q3jack and jack soundserver but this seems a little to risky
[08:15] <_oP> just want to be able to play xmms and quake 3 or et at same time
[08:16] <mc|amb> help! anyone   i'm getting this : Fatal IO Error 104  (connection reseted by peer) on xserver ...
[08:16] <_oP> prob is that my soundcard does not support multible soundsorce mixing
[08:16] <JFlash> what is the "write to disc" option i get on Nautilus?
[08:16] <xangel36> how can i install java in the commad line doen any one knows?
[08:16] <Seveas> !tell xangel36 about java
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> I want to do the following with grub: a) make spaces in the grub menu, b) make update-grub only reload the current file, not add new entries, c) make comments in the menu to display describing sets of entries.
[08:17] <JFlash> why is that when I drop files to a media cd the files instantenously appear as they are burned in the cd and there is no delay?
[08:17] <senthil> selinium, I pasted ...
[08:17] <_oP> cheers! just drinking a tafelwein weiss with water, thats the right stuff, oh yahh no hunfovers
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> JFlash, To burn the selected file to a CD.  Useful for downloaded ISOs.
[08:17] <_oP> *.hungovers
[08:17] <_oP> :p
[08:17] <mc|amb> how can I correct this error:    failed to initialize core devices
[08:18] <JFlash> tonyyarusso, thank you. do you know the answer for my second question?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> have big big problems here :(
[08:18] <burning_bronx> gnome-volume-manager got killed by  upgrades.
[08:18] <selinium> senthil, there we go, your browser is using totem! We will need to get rid of those files!
[08:19] <burning_bronx> coolsvile
[08:19] <senthil> selinium, How to do that ?
[08:19] <ercueva> hi... can someone help me to install ipw2200 dirver using ubuntu breezy?
[08:19] <selinium> senthil,   sudo mkdir ~/Desktop/libtotem
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> JFlash, Not really, but is it actually burning then, or is there some sort of "apply" button?  Are you talking in a burning program or in Nautilus?
[08:19] <xangel36> is there another way tio install java like apt-get install something????
[08:20] <JFlash> tonyyarusso, nautilus
[08:20] <Seveas> ercueva, it's installed by default
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> !tell xangel36 about javadebs
[08:20] <gnomefreak> how do you undo a mv command if you cant open a term?
[08:20] <_oP> IS THERE A UBUNTU GAMING CHANNEL ?
[08:20] <Seveas> _oP, drop the caps
[08:20] <ercueva> seveas, which version is istalled of ipw2200?
[08:20] <Seveas> !info ipw2200
[08:20] <selinium> senthil,    sudo mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem* ~/Desktop/libtotem
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Sorry xangel36, that wasn't what I meant to do.
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> xangel36: Yes.  Universe has j2re1.4 and PLF has j2re1.5.
[08:21] <senthil> selinium, done
[08:21] <benplaut> gnomefreak: ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gnome
ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.6
[08:21] <selinium> close FF and reopen, try a file
[08:21] <ercueva> seveas, OK I am checking, thanks
[08:21] <god> My nvidia-glx thing didn't work.
[08:21] <gnomefreak> i moved my whole dir into the /usr/local/bin how do i put it back to home
[08:21] <Llewxam> k that did it. now to keep going with the compilation... thanks sev.
[08:22] <benplaut> gnomefreak: look at what i said above
[08:22] <_oP> someone know how i get y`z toolbar this nice animated bar running under gnome?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:22] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:22] <benplaut> that'll get you to a command line :)
[08:22] <god> My nvidia-glx thing didn't work.
[08:23] <huck> Hallo
[08:23] <selinium> god, heard you the first time! :)
[08:23] <senthil> selinium, Done
[08:23] <burning_bronx> hey there is j2rel.6
[08:23] <burning_bronx> chill
[08:23] <ercueva> sevas, I tryed and it tells me: no menu item for ipw2200
[08:23] <god> selinium:  Then why didn't you help me the first time?
[08:23] <huck> I am new
[08:24] <selinium> senthil, now open a wmv file, it should use mplayer now
[08:24] <g1bson> Hi everyone, I am trying to log in as su in console
[08:24] <g1bson> but my passowrd is bad
[08:24] <ercueva> seveas, Are you sure that ipw2200 is by default installed in ubuntu breezy?
[08:25] <selinium> god, Because I don't know the answer, but it is a bit irritating when people paste the same thing over and over again. Wait a while before reposting. If anyone can help they will. Also, it is a statement, not a question
[08:25] <burning_bronx> g1bson, why do you need su?
[08:25] <burning_bronx> just use sudo
[08:25] <g1bson> to unmount another partition
[08:25] <g1bson> through console
[08:25] <god> My nvidia-glx thing didn't work. Help?
[08:25] <burning_bronx> sudo umount
[08:25] <g1bson> can't do it through GUI
[08:25] <JFlash> tonyyarusso, i dont think it's actually burning it
[08:25] <god> selinium:  Better?
[08:25] <g1bson> so sudo unmount hdc1 would work?
[08:25] <burning_bronx> yep
[08:26] <SantaD1> does anyone follow banshee development?
[08:26] <burning_bronx> it's umount
[08:26] <burning_bronx> not unmount
[08:26] <selinium> god, much! :) Cheers! :D
[08:26] <god> selinium:  It's not very cheery over here.
[08:26] <LinuxDude> shalom all
[08:26] <JFlash> tonyyarusso, it reads cd creator on the top bar, so it's just virtual, you have to press the write to disk for it to be real
[08:26] <g1bson> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdc1 from /media/hdc1 means ?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> JFlash, Ah.
[08:27] <selinium> senthil, Did it work?
[08:27] <xangel36> i nned help
[08:27] <_oP> someone know an animated toolbar like y`z or osx like, for gnome?
[08:27] <g1bson> its gone
[08:27] <g1bson> thx for the help
[08:27] <ercueva> does anyone know how to install ipw2200 in ubuntu breezy?
[08:27] <Toba> hrm
[08:27] <senthil> selinium, Yes
[08:27] <senthil> selinium, Your really amazing
[08:27] <Toba> I used synaptic to lock the version of a package
[08:28] <selinium> senthil, Cool!
[08:28] <Toba> so apt-get update;apt-get upgrade should leave it alone right?
[08:28] <senthil> selinium, Now shall i delete the file which i stored in the desktop
[08:28] <selinium> senthil, no problems! :)
[08:28] <gnomefreak> home folder is just called /home?
[08:28] <_oP> @ercuev http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 dunno if that will work
[08:28] <ercueva> I am trying to install ipw2200 because I am unable to get my wireless LAN working in my Toshiba laptop
[08:28] <selinium> yes, i just wanted to make sure. :)    rm -r ~/Desktop/libtotem
[08:28] <senthil> selinium, Shall i delete that folder ?
[08:29] <selinium> senthil, Somethimes my typing is a bit slow!
[08:29] <gnomefreak> yay i fixed it :)
[08:29] <ercueva> _oP I know this thread...
[08:30] <_oP> @ercueva did not help `
[08:30] <ercueva> but, it seems that the answars are not the best ones...  no it didn't
[08:31] <ercueva> @_oP are you using any laptop or you have expirience using a wirelss connection integrated in a centrino processor?
[08:31] <_oP> @ercueva maybe u can help me? :) need an animated toolbar for gnome like y`z bar or osx like ...
[08:31] <ercueva> _oP, sorry, no idea...<.-(
[08:31] <_oP> @ercueva no but i guess someone can help u more mentioning that :)
[08:31] <Evil_Whisper> _oP Try gdesklets
[08:31] <Evil_Whisper> I think the desklet is called starter bar
[08:31] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper thanks u know a good site for gdesklets
[08:32] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah hold on
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ok this isnt that bad i can get used to this :)
[08:32] <Evil_Whisper> http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:32] <Evil_Whisper> there you go
[08:32] <Kirk_Hammett> can some helper pvt me
[08:32] <Kirk_Hammett> pls
[08:32] <god> My nvidia-glx thing didn't work. Help?
[08:32] <Evil_Whisper> Install with sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[08:32] <senthil> selinium, The drawback is in the mplayer is not able to play a wmv file which is locacted in my fat filesystem
[08:33] <ercueva> II want to use my wireless connection on my laptop, the amazing point is that this laptop I got it as a weding present!!! and I could convince my wife to install ubuntu... but she wants the wireless to work ...  I don't want to install WXP!!!:.:(
[08:33] <senthil> selinium, I mounted my windows filesystem
[08:33] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper thanks, but they dont have my presures animated bar :(
[08:33] <Evil_Whisper> @_oP did you try starterbar
[08:34] <Kirk_Hammett> any 1 knowing a little bit more of unix systems to PVT me pls
[08:34] <senthil> selinium, I have couple of movies and songs in that particular partition. I can't play that movie or song using mplayer
[08:34] <selinium> senthil, ? You shoudl be able to pay any file that is on a mounted drive.
[08:34] <senthil> selinium, but i can play using totem
[08:34] <_oP> wait i will soon :)
[08:35] <senthil> selinium, I need one more help
[08:35] <ettkommanoll> i have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally.
[08:35] <selinium> :)
[08:35] <JFlash> ok, i burned some files to a Rewritable cd now ubuntu wont let me modify it
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, I've used wireless successfully on a laptop.  I wasn't really following earlier; what's your issue?
[08:35] <senthil> selinium, I asked you one question ... Shall i delete those files which is in my desktop ?
[08:35] <selinium> senthil, yes
[08:35] <Evil_Whisper> _oP its under Toolbar/Launchers in the gDesklets shell
[08:35] <JFlash> it says i'm not the owner, that the cd is readonly and all sorts of bullshit
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> JFlash, Was it a RW?
[08:35] <JFlash> yes
[08:35] <selinium> senthil, and I gave yuo the command to do it! :)
[08:35] <senthil> selinium, Thanks
[08:36] <_oP> cool thats the real thing! thank u!
[08:36] <ercueva> tonyarusso, I can't simply connect to the wireless, but I think is because the driver of the wireless is not loaded well
[08:36] <Evil_Whisper> no problem _oP
[08:36] <Kirk_Hammett> No ONE?
[08:36] <JFlash> i ran nautilus a root user but still i get the same bullshit messages
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> JFlash, Try checking the permissions on the device?
[08:36] <JFlash> how come ubuntu is so lame?
[08:36] <JFlash> it wont let me
[08:36] <void^> JFlash: iso9660 cd?
[08:36] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper do u play quake or enemy territory?
[08:36] <ettkommanoll> i have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally.
[08:36] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah
[08:36] <senthil> selinium,  i don't have a permission to delete it
[08:36] <selinium> senthil, I don't understand mplayer not loading some files, I don't know how to help with that one.
[08:36] <Evil_Whisper> Enemy Territory
[08:37] <ercueva> tonyyarruso, did you install ipw2200 ?
[08:37] <JFlash> void^,  how can i tell?
[08:37] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper just asking/wondering how u listen to music and play games at same time ?
[08:37] <senthil> selinium, sorry for my poor english
[08:37] <selinium> senthil,     sudo rm -r ~/Desktop/libtotem
[08:37] <selinium> senthil, no problems! :)
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, What card?
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, Mine worked out of the box.
[08:37] <_oP> like i mentioned before arts will not work anymore since upgrading to breezy :(
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, It's 2915.
[08:38] <_oP> dunno why workt perfectly before
[08:38] <ercueva> tonyyarrusso, mine is integrated on the chipset
[08:38] <void^> JFlash: mount will tell you, if it's mounted.
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, The IntelPRO Wireless a/b/g one.
[08:38] <Evil_Whisper> All I do is launch BMP and ET and it just works
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, It's part of a Centrino set as well.
[08:39] <Evil_Whisper> I'm using the ALSA sound driver for my card.
[08:39] <_oP>  BMP?
[08:39] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso,  yes, mine is integrated... it's the IntelPRO Wirelss a/b
[08:39] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah Beep Media Player
[08:39] <Kirk_Hammett> I have a ubuntu that is connected to internet, and a XP connected to ubuntu and i can't get the xp to get to internet
[08:39] <senthil> selinium, I have another problem
[08:39] <Evil_Whisper> _oP are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[08:39] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, sorry, Intel PRO Wireless b/g
[08:39] <selinium> senthil, ok... :)
[08:40] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, how did you get it work then?
[08:40] <_oP> ubuntu breezy
[08:40] <senthil> selinium, As i understood that from linux we can able to read NTFS partition and able to read and write Fat32 filesystem
[08:40] <JFlash> void^,  what is mount? is it a command?
[08:40] <_oP> all workt fine with ubuntu hoary
[08:40] <senthil> selinium, am i correct ?
[08:41] <void^> JFlash: ..yes.
[08:41] <Evil_Whisper> _oP try using the ALSA driver for your card
[08:41] <JFlash> tell JFlash about mount] [
[08:41] <JFlash> tell JFlash about mount
[08:41] <_oP> i always started xmms player with arts output and played quake and et with cmd artsdsp -m + app
[08:41] <selinium> senthil, sort of, linux can only read ntfs, but will right to fat/ext/blah blah blahg
[08:41] <isai> hi
[08:41] <JFlash> ubotu tell JFlash about mount
[08:41] <_oP> have tried that but then game starts but no sound telling me in terminal device busy
[08:41] <shineykitty> hey i was wondering how to get the ubuntu gui up?
[08:41] <Kirk_Hammett> hey, any 1 to say at least a word
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, I just had to run network-admin to specify the essid and WEP key, and it was fine.
[08:42] <isai> how do I find out the blocksize of my partition?
[08:42] <Evil_Whisper> _oP what sound card do you have?
[08:42] <senthil> selinium, i can able to mount both the filesystem successfully
[08:42] <Adelson> Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ?
[08:42] <lowman> cuz lowman is due :)
[08:42] <senthil> selinium, When i attempt to open my NTFS partition its opening Fat32 file system
[08:42] <selinium> senthil, yes you can mount both filesystems
[08:42] <Kirk_Hammett> hehehehee
[08:42] <_oP> guess my onboard soundcard its abit an7 does not support multible soundsorce mixing
[08:43] <Adelson> Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...
[08:43] <_oP> dohh its the newest oldest there is :)
[08:43] <Evil_Whisper> what do you have your multimedia prefrences set to?
[08:43] <_oP> :p
[08:43] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, I have a problem, my laptop have a button to activate/desactivate the WL connection. It doesn't work.. and with WXP it did
[08:43] <shineykitty> nice name Evil_Whisper
[08:43] <Evil_Whisper> thanks
[08:44] <shineykitty> so
[08:44] <selinium> senthil, look in here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions    :) I am going to have to go very soon.
[08:44] <abedra> ercueva: what kind of lapy
[08:44] <mogoro> algun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?
[08:44] <mogoro> algun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?
[08:44] <shineykitty> how do i get the ubuntu gui to load
[08:44] <_oP> guess i have to buy a soundcard but dont wanna *ahh its like so m*s like
[08:44] <Adelson> How help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...
[08:44] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, toshiba l20-101
[08:44] <ercueva> abedra, tonnyarrusso
[08:44] <shineykitty> and why wont windows load when i select it from grub
[08:44] <Evil_Whisper> _oP your onboard is an Abit An7?
[08:44] <senthil> selinium, I did the same thing but its not working :(
[08:44] <ercueva> sabedra, toshiba l20-101
[08:44] <mogoro> algun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?
[08:44] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper, yes
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, I see.  I have a key for turning the wireless radio on/off, connected to the BIOS.  Turning it off is not problem, but I think after turning it back on I would need to reconnect through other means.
[08:45] <Evil_Whisper> Its not listed on Alsa's website the only Abit they have on there is the AU10 :(
[08:45] <kyc> hi I have Breezy on a Dell Inspiron 1150, but hardware acceleration does not work
[08:45] <selinium> shineykitty, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   to restart gnome gui
[08:45] <shineykitty> oaky
[08:45] <abedra> do you have the hardware power module in the kernel?
[08:45] <abedra> for the wifi
[08:45] <mogoro> algun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?+
[08:45] <Adelson> How help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...
[08:45] <selinium> senthil, I am afraid I am not able to help, try the rest of the channel! :)   Where are you from?
[08:46] <Evil_Whisper> Try setting XMMS to use ESD
[08:46] <Kirk_Hammett> Any person who know a little bit more about networks please message me
[08:46] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, you mean mannually connect the wireless to the BIOS???? I don't get what you say...:(
[08:46] <Kirk_Hammett> Any person who know a little bit more about networks please message me
[08:46] <senthil> selinium, India
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> How can I put a blank line between entries in a grub menu?
[08:46] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper no my mainboard is a an7 with onboard sound, dont have an extra soundcard, i had a sb 5.1 once but gave it away just blocked badly needed pci space
[08:46] <Evil_Whisper> Ohhh oops I'll check what sound chip it has
[08:46] <kyc> my graphics card is Intel 852GM/855GM
[08:47] <Adelson> from Brazil... How help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...
[08:47] <shineykitty> now what do i type when grub gives a grub command line when i select windows?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, I mean the wireless radio on/off switch is independent of the OS, same with my volume up/down and Thinklight on/off keys.
[08:47] <_oP> 6-Channel AC 97 CODEC on board
[08:47] <viscount> when I upgrade my linux-kernel-image do I have to do anything to my nvidia driver?
[08:47] <selinium> Seveas, is there an Hindi language IRC channel?
[08:47] <Evil_Whisper> Ah my board has the AC97 too
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, They connect straight to hard-programmed stuff, rather than being dealt with by the OS>
[08:47] <abedra> viscount: reinstall
[08:47] <Evil_Whisper> But I use a Sound Blaster Live! LS 5.1
[08:47] <senthil> selinium, How can i contact u ?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> !hi
[08:48] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, I supose my as well, It should be independent of the OS... but it's not recognized by ubuntu... that't wy I think I have to install ipw2200
[08:48] <ubotu> hi!
[08:48] <gnomefreak> damn
[08:48] <abedra> ercueva: ipw2200?
[08:48] <abedra> mine works just fine
[08:48] <burning_bronx> I R back
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> abedra: Are there other things that would need reinstallation after a kernel upgrade?  I did one and stuff seemed fine.
[08:48] <ercueva> abedra, yes ipw2200, am I wrong?
[08:48] <viscount> abedra, i thought so, you would think they would be smart enough to know that and make sure its done automatically instead of just killing my desktop everytime my linux kernel is updated, wouldnt you
[08:48] <selinium> senthil, I am in here alot of the time!
[08:49] <abedra> yes
[08:49] <abedra> but that is not the issue
[08:49] <senthil> selinium, ok no probs
[08:49] <viscount> abedra, what is
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, Before dealing with whether it will connect you, does the key disconnect successfully?
[08:49] <Evil_Whisper> _oP what do you have your Output set to in the MMS dialog?
[08:49] <abedra> the issue is that after the kernel upgrade the module does not link
[08:49] <abedra> and you need to give permission to do the upgrade
[08:49] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, the key doesn't connect nor disconnect, it simply dont work
[08:50] <Adelson> nobory for help a brasilian....... hmmmmm....
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, Hrm.
[08:50] <Adelson> nobody for help a brasilian....... hmmmmm....
[08:50] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper problem is that i dont seem to have the esddsp installed... ?
[08:50] <viscount> abedra, yeah but if my mom was running ubuntu this would totally screw her up until I or someone else could come over and fix it, not nice
[08:50] <abedra> ercueva: strange
[08:50] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, at least the led showing this, it's not switch on.....
[08:50] <abedra> yes,
[08:50] <abedra> i agree
[08:50] <Evil_Whisper> Hmm? I have my output set to: ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon)
[08:50] <Evil_Whisper> try this
[08:51] <ercueva> abedra, yes... too strong and my wife is not happy with me...:(
[08:51] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper at the moment i have set it to alsa, but i can use esd oss and all other, all work fine, problem is quake and et
[08:51] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper also i have to mention esd and artsd are not running
[08:51] <Evil_Whisper> do you have alsaplayer-esd installed?
[08:52] <_oP> have to start them up manualy
[08:52] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, is there any known problem on dapper's package "locales"?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, You can try installing what you said if such a thing exists, and see what happens.
[08:52] <Evil_Whisper> ESD automatically starts it's daemon for me on boot
[08:52] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso and abedra, I've heard that if I install ubuntu with the key turned on, it works, does it make sense?
[08:52] <_oP> how can i juse/ what do i have to install to use esddsp cmd?
[08:52] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, do you have something in mind?
[08:52] <Evil_Whisper> hold on i'll check
[08:53] <burning_bronx> the mozilla firefox locales break firefox
[08:53] <abedra> ercueva: can you manually controll the hardware power cycle?
[08:53] <abedra> without the button
[08:53] <hussam> why is lvm10 in universe? Is it now a necessary package?
[08:53] <burning_bronx> also there is this issue with Xkbd and multiple layouts
[08:53] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, no, it won't upgrade on my system
[08:53] <ercueva> abedra, no idea.... what do you mean?
[08:53] <burning_bronx> ah thesaltydog...
[08:53] <dailyrorschach> I noticed there hasn't been much update on the laptop page, anyone here running ubuntu on a dell d600?
[08:53] <_oP> i can enter esd at cmd but no esddsp for starting appz
[08:53] <dailyrorschach> latitude
[08:53] <burning_bronx> have you tried removing locales, upgrading and reinstalling them?
[08:53] <Evil_Whisper> _oP do you have libesd-alsa0 installed?
[08:54] <viscount> abedra, I dont see any option for --reinstall in man, been a while since i've had to do it, can you tell me the command for apt to reinstall nvidia?
[08:54] <abedra> viscount: I use nvidia's
[08:54] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, it doen't remove. Cannot remove old one.. maybe forcing?
[08:55] <viscount> abarbaccia, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[08:55] <Evil_Whisper> I typed esddsp in console and get invalid command
[08:55] <burning_bronx> can't you remove it with synaptic?
[08:55] <abarbaccia> viscount, wrong person
[08:55] <ercueva> tonnyarrusso, thanks a million.. what I'll do is tring to install the ipw2200 stuff, if not, I'll forced to install M$ windows XP...:(
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> ercueva, Possibly.
[08:55] <diego> i need some help with xorg
[08:56] <viscount> abarbaccia, sorry
[08:56] <diego> i cant get the refresh rate that i want
[08:56] <Evil_Whisper> try this _oP
[08:56] <diego> WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 56.4-56.4kHz not within DDC hsync range 30-55kHz
[08:56] <rev> how can I force make to report errors in english language?
[08:57] <diego> i need to ignore the ddc timings that the i810 autodetect
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> rev: I heard that you can put a language variable at the beginning of the line for that.
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> rev: Something like Lang=en_US make yadayada.
[08:58] <rev> tonyyarusso: yup, works, thanks :)
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> rev: Sweet.
[08:59] <Evil_Whisper> _oP if you dont have XMMS open sound works in ET right?
[08:59] <Stormx2> Hey all
[08:59] <Evil_Whisper> _oP to get esddsp install esound-clients
[08:59] <Evil_Whisper> sudo apt-get install esound-clients
[08:59] <burning_bronx> wow how cool - dbus conflicts with libdbus and therefore makes vlc uninstallable
[09:00] <mike-e> !codec
[09:00] <ubotu> mike-e: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:00] <mike-e> !codecs
[09:00] <burning_bronx> cool stuff
[09:00] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:00] <mike-e> !easysource
[09:00] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:00] <mike-e> !poop
[09:00] <ubotu> mike-e: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:00] <Evil_Whisper> _oP you get that/
[09:00] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[09:00] <Kirk_Hammett> shey Evil_Whisper
[09:01] <Kirk_Hammett> pls
[09:01] <Kirk_Hammett> need some time
[09:01] <Kirk_Hammett> got any?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[09:01] <diego> please some help i neet to work in 70hz and im only getting 60hz
[09:01] <mike-e> wtf
[09:01] <rikai> is there a guide for switching to dapper? i've got a system i want to sue jsut to mess around with, and perhaps file some bug reports. is it jsut a matter of switching all instances of "hoardy" with "dapper" in the sources.list?
[09:01] <mike-e> whats with this source-o-matic crap
[09:02] <mike-e> it said it generated a new list but i don't see one
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to pause and restart an apt-get install while it's downloading?
[09:02] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper sorry had to look up what i have drunk
[09:02] <goose> i'm getting an update notification for linux-kernel-2.6.12-10-k7 but that's what is already installed on my system. any ideas??
[09:02] <burning_bronx> rikai, you just change all hoary to dapper and then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:02] <_oP> cool i will try that , and yes everything works with sound if i play them alone
[09:03] <rikai> burning_bronx, after a sudo apt-get update, i'm assuming? ;)
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> rikai: I think you have to go through breezy first, then to dapper, from hoary, or some people have reported running into issues.
[09:03] <burning_bronx> rikai, of course
[09:03] <rikai> tonyyarusso, err, i actually meant breezy, briain died for a second.
[09:03] <Kirk_Hammett> ANY 1 FREE TO HELP ME WITH SOME LAN PROBLEMS
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> burning_bronx, Am I right in my thought above?
[09:03] <Kirk_Hammett> sorry to write in UC
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> Kirk_Hammett,  you may want not DO THAT..
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> rikai, Ah, then no problem.
[09:04] <burning_bronx> tonyyarusso, I haven't done it so I couldn't know if issues exist
[09:04] <burning_bronx> but you could be right
[09:04] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper giving it a try :)
[09:04] <DonVincenzo> why, while the kubuntu 1.3.7 package exists, the version downloaded with apt-get is the 1.3.1 ??
[09:04] <rev> maybe someone can tell me whats missing here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6032
[09:04] <mike-e> is seveas's repository down?
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> burning_bronx, Okay.  Moot point in this case anyway.
[09:04] <rikai> DonVincenzo, because it hasnt been backported, most likely.
[09:04] <odat> anyone able to help get an old Aureal A3D sound card working
[09:05] <Stormx2> mike-e: It comes off his computer, and he's offline
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> mike-e: It was the other day, not sure about now.
[09:05] <fluvvell> Kirk_Hammett, tell us your woes
[09:05] <Seveas> !tell mike-e about seveas
[09:05] <rikai> odat, heh, i used to have one of those, it's a good card, although, i havent used it in a while, so no. :/
[09:05] <Stormx2> Aw man
[09:05] <mike-e> =P
[09:05] <Stormx2> Last time i checked !seveas it was not set, so i set it to "sexy"
[09:06] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper started esd and set xmms to esd output started game with esddsp that is what i get ------- sound initialization -------
[09:06] <_oP> Sorry but your soundcard can't do this
[09:06] <_oP> *ahhh
[09:06] <Seveas> Stormx2, which is a bannable action
[09:06] <_oP> *.lol
[09:06] <Stormx2> Seveas: it wasn't set :(
[09:06] <fluvvell> !tell fluvvell about networking
[09:06] <Seveas> !tell Stormx2 about bot abuse
[09:06] <_oP> guess i am the first getting this error with quake
[09:06] <_oP> lol
[09:06] <_oP> i hate abi*
[09:07] <odat> anyone know what the command is to configure alsa  i forget
[09:07] <Seveas> Stormx2, by the way: are you related to stormx1?
[09:07] <Stormx2> Seveas: I'm his evil twin brother
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2, How do you set things like that?  (Or, is there a listing of neat tricks like that and * action lines?)
[09:07] <burning_bronx> roflmfao
[09:07] <burning_bronx> sigh
[09:07] <Seveas> Stormx2, look at the ban list; if you're the evil one, why are you still here :)
[09:07] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper Sorry but your soundcard can't do this
[09:07] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: its "no, <blaa> is <whatever>"
[09:08] <occy> Anyone know how to get metacity to display the window size while you are resizing it?
[09:08] <Seveas> ubotu, tell tonyyarusso about yourself
[09:08] <odat> ?
[09:08] <Stormx2> Seveas: Stormx was taken :-(
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> Or, Seveas, can you answer my previous question to Stormx2 perhaps?
[09:08] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: He did. Check your messages from ubotu
[09:09] <ds> is dapper usable at the present time?
[09:09] <Stormx2> Yep
[09:09] <burning_bronx> sudo mount /dev/girlfriend /media/phone
[09:09] <Stormx2> Havn't tried it myself though
[09:09] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: XD~~~
[09:09] <burning_bronx> sudo sh phonesex
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2 and Seveas: Thanks.
[09:09] <burning_bronx> >.>
[09:09] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: "I don't know how to phonesex" xD
[09:09] <ds> so nothing flamingly broken
[09:10] <mike-e> source-o-matic is about as useful as tits on a bull
[09:10] <h4x> where does the aptitude program put the downloaded files .deb?
[09:10] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: "Broken pipe"
[09:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[09:10] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: "Can't mount"
[09:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[09:10] <h4x> lol
[09:10] <Seveas> Stormx2, burning_bronx -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <trappist> h4x: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:11] <burning_bronx> trappist, your speedtyping owns mine
[09:11] <odat> anyone remember the command to configure alsa?
[09:11] <kyc> could someone help me with hardware video on dell inspiron 1150?
[09:11] <trappist> alsaconf, if only it shipped with ubuntu
[09:12] <siriuskr> can ubuntu use the new X.org versions that came out yesterday ?
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> odat: Might be alsa-config.
[09:12] <Seveas> siriuskr, it already does
[09:12] <siriuskr> its already useing the new versions ?
[09:12] <Seveas> yes
[09:12] <siriuskr> how
[09:12] <odat> tonyyarusso, nah tried that
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> odat, I'm wrong.
[09:12] <Seveas> todays updates
[09:12] <Evil_Whisper> how can you tell the version of xorg your using?
[09:12] <siriuskr> it came out yesterday i didnt see a X11org update
[09:13] <trappist> that's insane
[09:13] <siriuskr> was it the new kernal ?
[09:13] <Seveas> Evil_Whisper, if you run breezy: Xorg 7 prerelease, if you run dapper Xorg 7
[09:13] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper have pity with a newbie
[09:13] <ubuntu> Hi
[09:13] <Stormx2> Hi ubuntu
[09:13] <Stormx2> Hi mattias
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> odat: Try alsaconf
[09:13] <matte_g> So
[09:13] <Stormx2> Hi matte_g
[09:14] <Stormx2> o.O
[09:14] <matte_g> I have booted the live cd
[09:14] <matte_g> and wonder if its possible to use that to install the system to my harddrive
[09:14] <_oP> Sorry but your soundcard can't do this
[09:14] <_oP> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:14] <Evil_Whisper> lol
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> odat: Provided you have it installed.
[09:14] <coNP> matte_g, do you have the install cd too?
[09:14] <matte_g> coNP, No
[09:14] <Stormx2> matte_g: I know thats going to be included in dapper, not sure if its in breezy
[09:14] <matte_g> Thats the problem
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, I don't believe so.  Use the install CD.
[09:15] <trappist> Seveas: do you have package names?  I'm sure not seeing it on breezy
[09:15] <matte_g> So I have to burn the install cd?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, Or, use the Live CD to download an install ISO, and install from that.
[09:15] <odat> tonyyarusso, i do
[09:15] <Seveas> trappist, it'll never be on breezy
[09:15] <trappist> that sounds more like it.  I misunderstood you then.
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, I think you can install from an ISO on the hard disk, but I'm not sure how that works.  Anyone?
[09:15] <Seveas> :)
[09:15] <inodnsodn> hi guys i have an ibm thinkpad t42 and trying to instal breezy badger. the installation goes into a blank screen right after i hit enter and few pages of come n then poof blank screen. does anyone have a solution to this?
[09:15] <JFlash> why does Nautilus tells me my RW cd is a read-only disk???
[09:16] <matte_g> tonyyarusso, Im on the live cd now
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, Once you've downloaded one.
[09:16] <matte_g> Np I found a clean cd I can use
[09:16] <inodnsodn> hi guys i have an ibm thinkpad t42 and trying to instal breezy badger. the installation goes into a blank screen right after boot when i hit enter and few pages of code come n then poof blank screen. does anyone have a solution to this?
[09:16] <matte_g> SO I can burn a install cd
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> JFlash,  you expect to use it as a large floppy drive?
[09:16] <_oP> @all what u think, give it a try http://www.konstruktiv.org/q3jack/
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, Right.  And obviously online, so you can download an image, and then you'll be set.
[09:17] <Evil_Whisper> I would recommend going back to your sound blaster _oP
[09:17] <matte_g> I know how to do
[09:17] <inodnsodn> hey guys anyone has a clue about my problem? id be grateful thanks
[09:17] <matte_g> Im running slackware on my computer :) This is my brothers :)
[09:17] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper *.sniff i gave it away for a birthday present
[09:17] <matte_g> Introducing him to the linux world
[09:18] <Anth0ny_> anyone who can recommend a tool to secure nfs traffic?
[09:18] <Seveas> nfs over ssh?
[09:18] <Anth0ny_> Seveas, Is it possible to tunnel NFS/UDP over SSH?
[09:18] <Seveas> NFS/TCP would be possible
[09:19] <Seveas> NFS/UDP sucks anyway in linux
[09:19] <matte_g> Which burning app does ubuntu have?
[09:19] <Seveas> lots
[09:19] <matte_g> any front end for cdrecord?
[09:19] <Seveas> gnomebaker, graveman, kubuntu
[09:19] <Seveas> kubuntu>>
[09:19] <Seveas> k3b!
[09:19] <Anth0ny_> which ports to tunnel in order to use NFS through TCP?
[09:19] <sethk> matte_g, k3b
[09:19] <matte_g> sethk, Ok
[09:19] <_oP> okay, never mind i can still play quake and enemy territoy with xmms running but no in game sounds , damn that is okay :)
[09:19] <matte_g> Cool
[09:19] <sethk> Anth0ny_, NFS has a TCP option.  No tunneling
[09:19] <coNP> Seveas, apt-get some coffee
[09:20] <Seveas> neh
[09:20] <Seveas> mount /sys/mouth /dev/coffeemachine
[09:20] <_oP> someone know how to set up a q3tv server ? wanna stream my server, is there a howto ?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, If you mean what's installed by default, I don't know.  I use gnomebaker.
[09:20] <blue-frog> _oP, choose another audio output plugin in xmms pref
[09:21] <matte_g> Ok
[09:21] <matte_g> I have to burn the iso from the live cd
[09:21] <sethk> matte_g, there really is nothing easier than burning an iso using cdrecord
[09:22] <Stormx2> matte_g: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:22] <Stormx2> matte_g: Look in the "ubuntu" section
[09:22] <matte_g> I know how to burn but my brother want a gui
[09:22] <foxpaul> hi all. is it possible to use ubuntu breezy with WPA wireless?
[09:22] <Stormx2> matte_g: For burning? yeah you can use that guide >.<
[09:22] <_oP> @blue-frog tried alsa oss and even artsd Received signal 11, exiting...
[09:23] <_oP> *.mahhhh
[09:23] <matte_g> hmm fdisk /dev/hda gives Unable to open /dev/hda
[09:23] <matte_g> But I know Igot a ide hard drivee as hda
[09:23] <matte_g> what can be wrong?
[09:23] <psycose> matte_g, sudo ...
[09:23] <matte_g> oh
[09:23] <blue-frog> _oP, tough luck
[09:23] <matte_g> right
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> foxpaul, There's an extra package for WPA, but yes.
[09:23] <JFlash> Dr_Willis, indeed!!
[09:23] <foxpaul> tonyyarusso, do you know what the package is? and do you still use the gnome network gui to config it?
[09:24] <cdubya> foxpaul, wpasupplicant
[09:24] <psycose> matte_g, well may be you would like to try cfdisk .... may be not ...
[09:24] <h4x> can somebody go to http://mcmcc.bat.ru/xmms-wma/ and see what plugin i would need for xmms to support wma. I am using Linux ubunto 2.6.12-10-386
[09:24] <_oP> someone know how to set up a QuakeTV Client?
[09:24] <jc-denton> QuakeTV?
[09:24] <Stormx2> h4x: Check seveas's repo
[09:24] <cdubya> foxpaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto?highlight=%28wpa%29
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> foxpaul: cdubya's package, not sure about the configuration, but probably yes.
[09:24] <Stormx2> h4x: He has a wma plugin there.
[09:25] <cdubya> foxpaul, good luck. that's all I can say.
[09:25] <cdubya> I didn't have such luck.
[09:25] <_oP> @jc-denton yes allowes u to connect on a server to spectate a game without
[09:25] <_oP> being connected on the server where the game is played
[09:26] <learnfromscratch> huh.. i want to install gtk to learn the hello world gtk stuff.. and more .. so i did apt-cache search gtk | less to figure out which package to install .. it reports too many.. can some one tell me a better way to screen for a package that i need to install
[09:26] <Stormx2> learnfromscratch: i didn't think GTK was a language >.<
[09:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a support channel for windows?
[09:26] <Stormx2> Comrade_Vladimir: Try #windows
[09:27] <psycose> learnfromscratch well you could use synaptic also ....
[09:28] <matte_g> With cfdisk it says my hda2 partittion is Linux what would the fs type be when mounting? I tried ext and ext3
[09:28] <senthil> selinium, Hi I would like to know how to install java plugins from firefox
[09:28] <_oP> @Comrade_Vladimir yes, its called going to cash automate
[09:28] <burning_bronx> windows are made of glass
[09:28] <burning_bronx> glass breaks easy
[09:29] <burning_bronx> therefore windows break easy
[09:29] <senthil>  selinium, Hi I would like to know how to install java plugins for firefox
[09:29] <Stormx2> !tell senthil about java
[09:29] <matte_g> What -t fstype would I specify when booting a ext3 or ext2 hard drive?
[09:30] <Anth0ny_> ubotu, !install kernel
[09:30] <ubotu> Anth0ny_: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:30] <Anth0ny_> ubotu, !install source
[09:30] <ubotu> Anth0ny_: Are you on ritalin?
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, 0x83
[09:30] <Anth0ny_> how do I install the kernel source for kubuntu?
[09:30] <matte_g> mount: unknown filesystem type '0x83'
[09:30] <trappist> Anth0ny_: linux-source
[09:30] <Evil_Whispe1> Ah much better :-)
[09:30] <Evil_Whispe1> aww what the heck
[09:31] <matte_g> tonyyarusso, Dont seem to be working
[09:31] <Anth0ny_> trappist, thx
[09:31] <psycose> matte_g ext3 or ext2 ;-)
[09:31] <Evil_Whisper> thats better
[09:31] <matte_g> ext3 I guess
[09:31] <Evil_Whisper> Gaim IRC is better then Xchat :-)
[09:31] <matte_g> irssi FTW
[09:31] <coNP> Evil_Whisper, why do you say thaT?
[09:31] <dydimustk> if I can't get the synaptics package manager to run, where can I find it to run it as root?
[09:32] <leon> I upgraded from hoary to breezy and somehow I have ended up with openoffice 1 and 2 on my puter. They dont play nice togerther. What do package do I need to remove?
[09:32] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper, yes how do i install gaim irc chat ?
[09:32] <Evil_Whisper> I dunno I'm just used to using gaim
[09:32] <trappist> dydimustk: sudo synaptic
[09:32] <matte_g> psycose, It it a ext3 I guess
[09:32] <coNP> dydimustk, enter: $ which synaptic
[09:32] <Evil_Whisper> Did you get that _oP?
[09:32] <psycose> matte_g, so put ext3  ;-) -t ext3
[09:32] <Anth0ny_> trappist, it tells me that I should choose between: linux-source-2.6.12 2.6.12-10.25, but none of them matches "uname -a"
[09:32] <matte_g> it wont work
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, Try it as just 83.  I'm not sure what the 0x does.
[09:33] <coNP> Evil_Whisper, gaim doesn't know transparency, do it?
[09:33] <ettkommanoll> i have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally. i can not use a floppy drive.
[09:33] <trappist> Anth0ny_: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[09:33] <Evil_Whisper> If you use Xcompmgr it does
[09:33] <Evil_Whisper> Xchat doesnt use transparency for me
[09:33] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper just joking, wanna stress u a little :))
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> matte_g, Or what psycose said; I'm not sure how smart it is.
[09:33] <Evil_Whisper> Lol
[09:33] <Evil_Whisper> Wait crap a new kernel installed how can I tell wich one installed?
[09:33] <ettkommanoll> i have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally. i can not use a floppy drive.
[09:34] <Anth0ny_> trappist, E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-10-386
[09:34] <psycose> matte_g, may be i missundestood what you wanted  to do ;-)
[09:34] <Evil_Whisper> is there some way I can check wich one just downloaded?
[09:34] <matte_g> psycose, mount a harddrive
[09:34] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, I had to modify the preinst file in the locales .deb package to let it install.
[09:34] <_oP> lol that is good one :))
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  are you using breezy?
[09:34] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[09:34] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah
[09:34] <psycose> matte_g, with the mount command ? so i'm good i think
[09:34] <bungle> hi
[09:35] <matte_g> yes with the mount command dont know any other way
[09:35] <Evil_Whisper> I just enabled backports and did a apt-get update
[09:35] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, it worked eh?
[09:35] <Evil_Whisper> and then installed updates through gnome updater thingy
[09:35] <dydimustk> thanks trappist
[09:35] <thesaltydog> yes now it works. I posted here the mod: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21419
[09:35] <thesaltydog> but I still have the problem on firefox.
[09:35] <trappist> Anth0ny_: sorry, I forgot the source is platform-independent.  linux-source-2.6.12
[09:35] <_oP> did that so often but cant remember :p
[09:35] <psycose> matte_g, if you had read the man pages you would see that you should use -t ext3
[09:36] <thesaltydog> burning_bronx, is italian firefox localization in dapper a known bug? It won't upgrade from breezy..
[09:36] <matte_g> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[09:36] <matte_g>        missing codepage or other error
[09:36] <matte_g>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:36] <matte_g>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:36] <matte_g> sorry for long paste
[09:36] <leon> to unintall openoffice1 do i purge or remove openoffice.org?
[09:36] <trappist> don't do that.
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  type gedit /boot.grub.menu.lst thats a read only file
[09:36] <gnomefreak> shit
[09:36] <gnomefreak> oops
[09:36] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[09:36] <Anth0ny_> trappist, thanks a lot
[09:36] <dan1> I am having trouble installing Unreal tournament on ubuntu; it says the disk is not not mounted. if anyone has experience in this help would be apreaciated
[09:36] <gnomefreak> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:37] <lowman> thesaltydog: are you upgrading firefox? or trying to?
[09:37] <matte_g> is there any gui for mount?
[09:37] <psycose> matte_g, if you do a $ sudo cfdisk /dev/hda          what info it gives for hda1 ?
[09:37] <matte_g> My brother wonders
[09:37] <dan1> firefox is awesom
[09:37] <thesaltydog> lowman, I am trying...
[09:37] <Evil_Whisper> gnomefreak I dont have a seperate boot partition
[09:37] <Evil_Whisper> where would it be
[09:37] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[09:37] <matte_g>  hda1                    Primary   Linux                           123519,03
[09:37] <lowman> to 1.5? thesaltydog?
[09:37] <thesaltydog> from breexy to dapper
[09:37] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, most firefox locales in dapper would cause your firefox to crash
[09:38] <psycose> matte_g, display me the line you used to mount hda1
[09:38] <lowman> oh..okay I just stepped in on this conversation I did catch it all sorry :|
[09:38] <burning_bronx> I suggest screw them.
[09:38] <_oP> @Evil_Whisper You could stat out the directory's in /lib/modules/ and that should give
[09:38] <_oP> you all the kernels, unless you do a monolithic kernel with no modules!
[09:38] <_oP> :)
[09:38] <thesaltydog> it doen't crash. It has been removed and won't install due to the mozilla-firefox-locale-it
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  im not sure but i can tell you it was 2.6.12-10 but a revised version of it it didnt add a seprate entry for it it
[09:38] <matte_g> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/download/
[09:38] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[09:38] <thesaltydog> lowman, so I have no firefox in dapper.
[09:39] <burning_bronx> thesaltydog, just remove firefox locales and install/upgrade firefox
[09:39] <SweetestSavage> Hello, could anyone explain this error to me: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ??
[09:39] <Evil_Whisper> Would I gain any performance using a 686 kernel or k7 kernel on a AMD Athlon XP 2800+?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> im not real sure why the backports updated the 2.6.12-10 kernel this am
[09:39] <lowman> did you try backing up you .mozilla dir and then try reinstalling it salty?
[09:39] <_oP> also there is a cmd but i cant resume it
[09:39] <_oP> :p
[09:39] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, I think k7 would be better for you
[09:39] <matte_g> psycose, I did paste it a bit uppwards
[09:39] <thesaltydog> I did. But when you try to install firefox, the system knows that your locale is italian and try again to install the buggy file. So it breaks.
[09:39] <lowman> back it up then delete the existing one
[09:39] <benplaut> i'm having a problem with verticle gnome-panels... the tasklist's text doesn't rotate =/
[09:39] <burning_bronx> anyway performance improvement would be unnoticeable
[09:39] <Evil_Whisper> Could I install it without messing stuff up?
[09:39] <matte_g> psycose,  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/download/
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  it installed fine this am for me
[09:40] <burning_bronx> I am running AMD Sempron 3000+ with the K7
[09:40] <Evil_Whisper> what would i do to install it?
[09:40] <burning_bronx> works fine
[09:40] <burning_bronx> smooth as a dog
[09:40] <burning_bronx> >.>
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> My dogs are not smooth.
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  did you run apt-get upgrade?
[09:40] <burning_bronx> what dog you have?
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> they are all furry and fluffy :P
[09:40] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah
[09:40] <psycose> matte_g, thinking ...
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> 4 Pomerianians...
[09:40] <matte_g> ok
[09:40] <lowman> <--2 pomeranians :)
[09:41] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, get the K7 - it should be best for you
[09:41] <Evil_Whisper> I'm running the stock 386 kernel right now
[09:41] <Evil_Whisper> what would I type using apt-get to get it?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> than just reboot but that is what bothered me it didnt ask me to reboot
[09:41] <lowman> <--one wiener dog and a blue russian cat
[09:41] <Evil_Whisper> and then could I safely trash the 386 kernel?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> weiner dogs are always fun.
[09:41] <burning_bronx> don't trash the 386
[09:41] <psycose> matte_g, have you done a $ sudo  mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1             to create your partition ?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  if your talking the k7 that i dont know
[09:41] <burning_bronx> you should leave them both just in case something messes up - so you can go back to the 386
[09:41] <burning_bronx> :P
[09:41] <Evil_Whisper> or at least turn off the grub menu so that It auto boots into k7?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> i use the 386 kernels
[09:42] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, search for linux-image in synaptic
[09:42] <lowman> this wiener dog is a puppy..my wife brought home from work..is a pain in the (_!_)
[09:42] <burning_bronx> linux-image k7 would find all things needed
[09:42] <burning_bronx> then install the latest image
[09:42] <burning_bronx> ~_~
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> We had 2 Poms.. wife decided to get  2 more 'for her'
[09:42] <matte_g> psycose, :) Forgot the simpliest thing wtf
[09:42] <matte_g> Thanks
[09:42] <gnomefreak> whats the difference between 386 and k7?
[09:42] <psycose> matte_g, pleasure ;-)
[09:42] <lowman> my female is pregnant ..want more?
[09:42] <burning_bronx> k7 is AMD specific
[09:42] <lowman> ckc registered
[09:42] <benplaut> anyone know of a good starter guide to vi[m] ?
[09:42] <burning_bronx> in theory it should give him better performance
[09:43] <benplaut> and shut up, emac'ers
[09:43] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> benplaut,  run 'vimtutor'
[09:43] <lowman> benplaut i believe it comes with a tutorial built in
[09:43] <benplaut> thanks
[09:43] <Evil_Whisper> ok I'm currently doing an apt-get install linux-k7
[09:43] <hid3> Evening everyne. I run an ftp server with 2.6 kernel. Sometimes, when server is loaded, I see 'wa' using all my cpu power. However, this happens only sometimes. Is there any way to find out what causes it to use cpu so much?
[09:43] <burning_bronx> then 386 is fine for you ;)
[09:43] <lowman> vimtutor or something
[09:43] <gnomefreak> thats what i was thiking too i just didnt knwo what made k7 different
[09:44] <Evil_Whisper> 2.6.12-10-k7?
[09:44] <Randomnick33> lol getting a nick on this server is a pain
[09:44] <PassoinLim> I have probluem in /usr partition. I wanna format it, and restore its data. How can i do it?
[09:44] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, that should be it - for breezy
[09:44] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[09:44] <psycose> gnomefreak on synaptic you can read about the package description, ....  written there...
[09:44] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: what kind of problem?
[09:44] <Evil_Whisper> It wont mess up my nvidia drivers will it?
[09:44] <burning_bronx> yeh
[09:45] <trappist> hid3: 'wa' is i/o wait.  that usually happens when there's a lot of i/o activity such as disk or network activity, and data's not moving as fast as an app expects it to.
[09:45] <burning_bronx> :P
[09:45] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, It could not be recovered when computer booting up.
[09:45] <_oP> cheers! reaching out for some good booz, wondering why i can` t like rescue the liquer wich previously got spilled, of my ellbows?
[09:45] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: the file-system is corrupted?
[09:45] <burning_bronx> cuttung edge B)
[09:45] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx,  thats dappers kernel isnt it?
[09:45] <Randomnick33> Em I was just wondering if Ubuntu will be able to recognize and run with my modem?
[09:45] <Evil_Whisper> do I have to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable again?
[09:45] <burning_bronx> yeh
[09:45] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, I think so.
[09:45] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: did you fsck it?
[09:45] <burning_bronx> and it currently owns the world
[09:45] <Evil_Whisper> Be right back gonna boot into the new kernel
[09:46] <gnomefreak> yeah see dapper didnt work for me last time i tried to upgrade
[09:46] <root> Randomnick33 Em I was just wondering if Ubuntu will be able to recognize and run with my modem?.....which'
[09:46] <burning_bronx> kernel 2.6.15 >= world
[09:46] <root> unstable
[09:46] <Randomnick33> Its a speedtouch... something or other
[09:46] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, I never understood people with problems on upgrade
[09:46] <hid3> trappist: the matter is that let's say today my server uploads @ 18 mB/s and wa usage is nearly 15 %, but yesterday it uploaded at about 17 mB/s and wa usage was ~90% (no download or other apps running). I'd say it is quite strange..
[09:46] <burning_bronx> then again I've been using Dapper since the project start
[09:46] <blue-frog> root
[09:46] <root> i have a pctel modem working
[09:46] <root> hsp56
[09:46] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx,  xchat and the sources wouldnt work after upgrade
[09:46] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, nope, i have an exprience when fsck corrupt my filesystem. i've lost whole data at that time. So, i didn't try it in this time.
[09:47] <root> micromodem
[09:47] <blue-frog> Randomnick33, with eagle-usb should work
[09:47] <Randomnick33> ic
[09:47] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, I am chatting with xchat 2.6.0
[09:47] <gnomefreak> me too
[09:47] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:47] <Randomnick33> I guess it should work fine
[09:47] <gnomefreak> backports have 2.6
[09:47] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: if you can't recover the fs w/ fsck then you're going to have to reinstall... just backup the data you don't want to lose first
[09:47] <burning_bronx> yeh but you got it from backports
[09:47] <Talisker> Hi, I've just installed a new WM, and now I want to add it to gdm, where do I do that?
[09:47] <burning_bronx> I got it from dapper repos
[09:47] <burning_bronx> ~_~;
[09:47] <bluefusionxl> hey guys
[09:47] <lowman> is that any good burning_bronx?
[09:47] <bluefusionxl> can anyone here help me with ndiswrapper?
[09:48] <trappist> hid3: I'd say it's probably timing.  if a huge, fast upload is happening at the same time another app wants to access data, it'll exacerbate the situation.
[09:48] <burning_bronx> it is of course
[09:48] <cmatheson> Talisker: how did you install the wm? if you did it w/ apt then it should have been added automatically
[09:48] <burning_bronx> it owns.
[09:48] <Randomnick33> well thanks anyways, bbl lol
[09:48] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, thanks. :)
[09:48] <goo> So, are there any (unofficial) repositories that has X11R7.0 yet?
[09:48] <Talisker> cmatheson, I've built it myself, it's apt package is old and broken
[09:48] <psycose> bluefusionxl, can try .... ;-)
[09:48] <blue-frog> bluefusionxl, where r u stuck?
[09:48] <bluefusionxl> okay well everything went fine on ndiswrapper, but I go to the modules...
[09:49] <lowman> hmm gonna check it out...brb
[09:49] <Evil_Whisper> ok I'm back
[09:49] <burning_bronx> goo, the latest X.org RC is on the dapper repos but - waiting for devs to get the official release
[09:49] <Evil_Whisper> it booted using the K7 kernel
[09:49] <bluefusionxl> and it said: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument
[09:49] <cmatheson> Talisker: hmm, in that case i would guess the easiest way would be to take apart the old package and just still the gdm conf part from there... otherwise read the gdm docs or else just use your ~/.xsession to start
[09:49] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, do you know any program for backup conveniently??
[09:49] <SweetestSavage> Can someone please help me with this: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[09:49] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, cool eh?
[09:49] <Evil_Whisper> but how do I tell if its better performance or worse?
[09:49] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: hmm, i've always just used tar
[09:49] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, told you - you wouldn't notice the difference
[09:49] <burning_bronx> maybe a milisecond or two
[09:49] <bluefusionxl> did you get that?
[09:49] <burning_bronx> xD
[09:49] <goo> burning_bronx: ok, thanks!
[09:49] <Talisker> cmatheson, it's very easy to start, I just need to know where can I find the file with the list of sessions
[09:49] <Evil_Whisper> So whats the point of upgrading then? :P
[09:49] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what command did you use ?
[09:49] <burning_bronx> who said there's any point?
[09:49] <burning_bronx> xD
[09:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:50] <bluefusionxl> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument
[09:50] <burning_bronx> you asked how
[09:50] <bluefusionxl> oh yeah
[09:50] <Evil_Whisper> wow so all that was pointless? xD
[09:50] <bluefusionxl> let me see
[09:50] <burning_bronx> you didn't ask "should I"
[09:50] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: for instance... to backup your home dir you could do 'tar jpcvf home.tar.bz2 $HOME'
[09:50] <nicodein> hi, I'm using the ubuntu-amd64, and I guess I'm lacking some fonts (especially in xmms menus). Any idea how I could fix that ?
[09:50] <Evil_Whisper> rofl
[09:50] <burning_bronx> :)
[09:50] <bluefusionxl> modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:50] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, just go with the k7
[09:50] <cmatheson> Talisker: i would guess it's in /etc/gdm, but i'm not sure... i would say the docs would be your best bet for this one
[09:50] <burning_bronx> at least I feel better with a kernel built for my processor
[09:50] <gnomefreak> does dappers kernel support same drivers as breezy just with more?
[09:50] <burning_bronx> :)
[09:50] <Anth0ny_> trappist, I installed the linux-source, but in /usr/src I see only a single .tar.bz2 file. Should I unpack it manually?
[09:50] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what ndiswrapper -l shows ?
[09:50] <burning_bronx> driver support in dapper is a killer
[09:50] <burning_bronx> :)
[09:51] <burning_bronx> owns.
[09:51] <PassoinLim> cmatheson, Thanks
[09:51] <cmatheson> Anth0ny_: unpack it 'tar jxvf whatever.tar.bz2'
[09:51] <cmatheson> PassoinLim: no problem
[09:51] <gnomefreak> i wondering if the kernel doesnt support my nic card
[09:51] <burning_bronx> the only reason I wouldn't recommend you installing dapper is cause when it breaks you would blame me
[09:51] <gnomefreak> thats why nothing was working
[09:51] <burning_bronx> xD
[09:51] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx, i tried it a while ago
[09:51] <Anth0ny_> cmatheson, thanks
[09:52] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:52] <bluefusionxl> hold on
[09:52] <bluefusionxl> checking
[09:52] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, just change the sources for dapper repos and dist-upgrade >.>
[09:52] <burning_bronx> but then don't blame me!
[09:52] <kemik> burning_bronx:  dapper has recent ATI drivers too +
[09:52] <burning_bronx> and recent SiS drivers >.>
[09:52] <burning_bronx> yeh - dapper has it all
[09:52] <burning_bronx> all the cutting edge stuff
[09:52] <Evil_Whisper> Will dapper be stable enough to use without breaking before April?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> but burning_bronx the last time i did i think i didnt have a net connection so id like to find out first if that was the issue
[09:52] <kemik> Evil_Whisper:  you never know
[09:53] <kemik> Evil_Whisper:  that's why it's the 'unstable' branch
[09:53] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  if it is than it wont be til march lol
[09:53] <burning_bronx> but it also has broken dependencies, apps getting killed for no reason and all that neat stuff unstable releases posess
[09:53] <SmartUnix> hi
[09:54] <kemik> burning_bronx:  yeah . features
[09:54] <kemik> :>
[09:54] <SmartUnix> please i have problem with install ubuntu
[09:54] <Talisker> Ok, appearently I need to create a .desktop file
[09:54] <Talisker> but where should I create it?
[09:54] <Randomnick33> lol back again
[09:55] <burning_bronx> SmartUnix, what's your problem?
[09:55] <Evil_Whisper> Anyone here experienced with running steam with CVS Cedega?
[09:55] <kemik> Talisker:  in your ~/ perhaps
[09:55] <bluefusionxl> ok it says net8180 driver present
[09:55] <Randomnick33> I was wondering whether it would be best to disconnect my modem during the install?
[09:55] <SmartUnix> i created Ext3 partiton with MagicPartiton
[09:55] <burning_bronx> Randomnick33, why would you do that?
[09:55] <Randomnick33> well
[09:55] <Stormx2> So, whats ubuntu 6.10 going to be called?
[09:56] <burning_bronx> it's 6.04
[09:56] <psycose> bluefusionxl, be kind and put the nickname of the people you are talking to before your sentence
[09:56] <burning_bronx> it's year.month
[09:56] <Evil_Whisper> Dapper Drake
[09:56] <Randomnick33> It has an install disk which quite clearly sayd to be used before connecting the modem to your pc
[09:56] <burning_bronx> (200)6.04
[09:56] <Stormx2> No, Thats 6.04
[09:56] <Stormx2> I meant 6.10
[09:56] <Stormx2> >.<
[09:56] <Evil_Whisper> whats the diffrence?
[09:56] <burning_bronx> ah
[09:56] <burning_bronx> 6.10 is too far ahead
[09:56] <Stormx2> 6.10 is 6 months later?
[09:56] <Stormx2> I want Perky Penguin :(
[09:56] <kemik> i want less lame names
[09:56] <Evil_Whisper> lol that would be a great name for the next one
[09:56] <SmartUnix> and when i try to install ubuntu , it's show for me partiton list (included Ext3 partition) i choose to format Ext3 partiton
[09:57] <Stormx2> Dapper Drake is a bad name, if you ask me
[09:57] <Evil_Whisper> I thought dapper was going to be supported for 3 years?
[09:57] <SmartUnix> then format installer show for me this "no file system is defined."
[09:57] <stuart_> Hello. I am trying to update Firefox to 1.5. I am using Archive Manager. Where do I extract the files to?
[09:57] <Stormx2> !tell stuart_ about ff1.5
[09:57] <kemik> !tell me about ff1.5
[09:57] <x_dapper> I be running the 6.04  just got it in last night
[09:57] <Evil_Whisper> !tell me about ff1.5
[09:58] <Stormx2> stuart_: Follow the instuctions in the wiki and it will work fine. I installed ff1.5 today.
[09:58] <kemik> Stormx2:  ff1.5 didnt work
[09:58] <kemik> =)
[09:58] <Stormx2> Didn't it?
[09:58] <Stormx2> ack
[09:58] <Evil_Whisper> !tell me about ff1.5
[09:58] <stuart_> What wiki?
[09:58] <Evil_Whisper> !tell me about firefox
[09:58] <Stormx2> !firefox1.5
[09:58] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:58] <Stormx2> There
[09:58] <Stormx2> That one
[09:58] <stuart_> Thanks
[09:58] <Stormx2> Use that link
[09:58] <stuart_> SOrry, very new to this
[09:58] <SmartUnix> any help
[09:58] <Stormx2> My fault
[09:58] <Randomnick33> so any advice on the modem thing? Leave it in or take it out to install post ubuntu set up?
[09:58] <Stormx2> Forgot it.
[09:59] <ordinary> someone help me change my keyboard layout please
[09:59] <kemik> ah great! " The Totem video plugin doesn't seem to work with firefox 1.5" .. i consider Totem a bug in ubuntu anywys =)
[09:59] <Stormx2> Randomnick33L What is the problem?
[09:59] <psycose> bluefusionxl, have you done $ sudo  modprobe ndiswrapper  or   $ modprobe ndiswrapper  or #  modprobe ndiswrapper  ?
[09:59] <Randomnick33> It has an install disk which quite clearly sayd to be used before connecting the modem to your pc
[09:59] <Stormx2> kemik: I consider them both bugs.
[09:59] <yassine> can we use pocket pc with ubuntu?
[09:59] <kemik> Stormx2:  Firefox too ?
[09:59] <yassine> sync
[10:00] <Stormx2> yassine: yes!
[10:00] <yassine> how to please? !!
[10:00] <bluefusionxl> i am in root
[10:00] <pawel> ordinary: gnome?
[10:00] <bluefusionxl> psyco
[10:00] <Stormx2> yassine: There is a great guide at ubuntuforums.org, search for "PocketPC"
[10:00] <burning_bronx> yassine, it should be possible
[10:00] <psycose> bluefusionxl, have you compile ndiswrapper yourself ?
[10:00] <ordinary> I'm using gnome now
[10:00] <matte_g> Where can I find the guide to get mp3 support in ubuntu?
[10:00] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: i've done it! With a smartphone though, but its the same process
[10:00] <Randomnick33> I was just wondering whether it be better to leave my modem in for the installation or to take it out and install it later
[10:00] <yassine> ok i will search for the guide, thanks !!!
[10:00] <ordinary> I also have and enjoy the kubunntu desktop environ
[10:00] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: I wrote a HOWTO on some models which are differcult
[10:00] <Evil_Whisper> :S
[10:00] <bluefusionxl> psyco, at first I tried that and then I folloed the ubuntu wiki and made .debs
[10:01] <Anth0ny_> transgress, now my installer ask for the kernel-headers for my kernel. How do I install these?
[10:01] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, I am not the one with a Pocket PC
[10:01] <pawel> ordinary: Panel -> System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[10:01] <bluefusionxl> psyco, ok  I just uninstalled it and reisntalled the thing using debs
[10:01] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what is the gcc version you used ? sorry my nick is not psyco lazy man
[10:01] <bluefusionxl> psyco, it still deos not work
[10:02] <pawel> quite obvious.
[10:02] <bluefusionxl> psycose, sry
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Anth0ny_,  if you just updated kernels after you boot into new kernel the rest of the packages should install
[10:02] <bluefusionxl> let me see
[10:02] <bassnrat> is there any suggestions on how to decompress an .rmp file?
[10:02] <matte_g> Which package contains gnomebacker?
[10:02] <burning_bronx> bassnrat,  you first have to install the alien package
[10:02] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get install fakeroot alien
[10:02] <gnomefreak> !alien
[10:02] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[10:02] <bluefusionxl> psycose, I used the latest.. but it had nurmerous errors
[10:03] <bluefusionxl> so I folloed the iunstructions on the wiki and made debs
[10:03] <bluefusionxl> abd got that error message
[10:03] <klondike> Hello again
[10:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do u load a ubuntu partition on windows xp
[10:03] <matte_g> Which package contains gnomebacker ?
[10:03] <bluefusionxl> psychose, do you want the error message again?
[10:03] <SmartUnix> any help in my install problem ?
[10:03] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what is the gcc version you used ?
[10:03] <Stormx2> Comrade_Vladimir: You need an app for that
[10:03] <burning_bronx> Comrade_Vladimir, you download one of the many linux browsers
[10:04] <bassnrat> ok thank you big time
[10:04] <Klondike> What's the best way to pursue a probably X configuration problem?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> Comrade_Vladimir,  check  http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:04] <bluefusionxl> psycose, it is
[10:04] <Klondike> *probable
[10:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> i use firefox on windows burning_bronx
[10:04] <Stormx2> Comrade_Vladimir: I beleive theres one called Tuxido (or however you spell it)
[10:04] <bluefusionxl> oops got cut off
[10:04] <SmartUnix> i created Ext3 partiton with MagicPartiton
[10:04] <bluefusionxl> let me check
[10:04] <SmartUnix> and when i try to install ubuntu , it's show for me partiton list (included Ext3 partition) i choose to format Ext3 partiton
[10:04] <SmartUnix> then format installer show for me this "no file system is defined."
[10:04] <burning_bronx> Comrade_Vladimir, I didn't mean web browsers
[10:04] <burning_bronx> lol
[10:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> haha
[10:04] <Stormx2> SmartUnix: You didn't need to do that, the installer will do partitioning itself
[10:04] <Klondike> I just installed Ubuntu, and it seems to have installed perfectly aside from the fact that X won't boot.
[10:04] <Klondike> I get a "No screens found" error
[10:04] <bluefusionxl> psychose, gcc 3.3
[10:05] <psycose> bluefusionxl, ok
[10:05] <SmartUnix> but i want install in Ext3 exists partition
[10:05] <Klondike> Is there a particular location on disk where Ubuntu stores its documentation?
[10:06] <Klondike> That I could look through to help me in configure X to locate my screen correctly?
[10:06] <Klondike> *configuring
[10:06] <ordinary> Thank you in Dvorak.
[10:06] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what tutorial did you follow and what is your wifi hardware name
[10:06] <mmaglis> Klondike: yes /usr/share/doc/
[10:06] <void^> Klondike: man xorg.conf ?
[10:06] <bluefusionxl> okay the tutorial was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[10:06] <Am|School> Klondike: what's the problem?
[10:06] <bluefusionxl> and my hardware is DWL 520
[10:06] <bluefusionxl> DLINK DWL 520
[10:06] <Klondike> I just completed the Ubuntu installation process, and on first real boot after installation, X won't bott up
[10:07] <Klondike> *boot
[10:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> Dr_Willis now how do i use it?
[10:07] <bluefusionxl> klondike, which ubuntu version are you using?
[10:07] <Klondike> When I look in the logs, it says that "No screens wree found"
[10:07] <Klondike> Breezy
[10:07] <mmaglis> Kondike: can you give us some hardware info?
[10:07] <Klondike> Sure, I have an ATI Radeon 300 128MB video card
[10:07] <Klondike> Which is described in the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file
[10:08] <bluefusionxl> klondike, go to the ubuntu wiki and read a tutorial about setting up X Free
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> Comrade_Vladimir,  read the web site and docs.. ya install it.. run the control-panel program for it. and set a drive letter.
[10:08] <djm62> bluefusionxl: not X.org?
[10:08] <Klondike> OK, I'll install the lynx package with aptitude then?
[10:08] <Klondike> I checked the x.org wiki but it tells you to use your vendor's documentation
[10:08] <grim1> I'm having major problems with my cd/dvd drive permissions I can't seem to sudo chmod them is there any way of resetting to a default setting or would haviung dma enabled be a problem??
[10:08] <bluefusionxl> xfree86 is the default
[10:08] <Klondike> I checked that by using wget and parsing the HTML in pico -_-
[10:08] <bluefusionxl> check wiki.ubuntuinux.org
[10:09] <blo> hi to the channel
[10:09] <Stormx2> grim1: Did the problem start when you enabled DMA?
[10:09] <Stormx2> hi to blo
[10:09] <bluefusionxl> psycho have you an answer to my question yet?
[10:09] <Comrade_Vladimir> Dr_Willis control panel program?
[10:09] <Klondike> All right, is lynx the best command line browser?
[10:09] <bluefusionxl> yes
[10:09] <bluefusionxl> definatly
[10:09] <psycose> bluefusionxl, have you take the corresponding driver here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D ?
[10:09] <Klondike> Okay, cool, thanks guys.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> Comrade_Vladimir,  its a windows program/tool, with a icon in the control panel.
[10:09] <grim1> Stormx2: No I only noticed when I installed cedega and it keeps failing the permissions test
[10:09] <derick_> in toronto gay man
[10:09] <mmaglis> Klondike: try to use more conservative display settings
[10:09] <bluefusionxl> yes, psycose, I do
[10:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh ok i see it
[10:10] <bluefusionxl> psyco, my driver is setup properly
[10:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> Dr_Willis how bout the swap letter that too?
[10:10] <bluefusionxl> I jsut can't load the ndiswrapper module
[10:10] <Moxie> could someone help me out with dual booting?
[10:10] <Moxie> im trying to figure out how to dual boot linux/mac
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> Comrade_Vladimir,  can you think of ANY reason you need to access the swap partition in windows?  :P
[10:11] <Comrade_Vladimir> just wonderin
[10:11] <Moxie> the partitions are screwed up or something?
[10:11] <holycow> guys, what sorts of startegies do you guys use for mirroring a drive?  i don't want to use dd as its a waste to write every single bit for bit.  i tried using gparted to repartition, dd the bootsector and tar -p over the system files but thats not working.  any other approaches to take ?
[10:11] <netmonk> anyone using dapper?
[10:11] <grim1> Stormx2: So I followed there guide to changing permissions but nothing is happening
[10:11] <Comrade_Vladimir> Dr_Willis wow thats cool thanks
[10:11] <Moxie> i can get them both installs, then when i try and and run mac it doesnt start up?
[10:11] <Moxie> any idea why?
[10:11] <blo> Q: can i install firefox 1.5 via apt-get ? (apt-get insall mozilla-firefox says it's altready the last version...)
[10:11] <Moxie> i can get the yaboot screen in the begining and all....just tiger wont boot up
[10:11] <Evil_Whisper> blo firefox 1.5 isnt in the repos
[10:11] <bluefusionxl> blo, you will have to install 1.5 manually
[10:11] <Moxie> linux boots fine tho
[10:12] <Moxie> any ideas?
[10:12] <bluefusionxl> blo, its really simple
[10:12] <bluefusionxl> blo, its just a bin file
[10:12] <bluefusionxl> run it and your done
[10:12] <bluefusionxl> well its a setup sorta like windows'
[10:12] <Stormx2> blo: No you cant
[10:12] <ubuntu> help
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> lol
[10:12] <Evil_Whisper> extract to /opt/ and create a symbolic link to /usr/bin/firefox
[10:12] <blo> ok i'll do that, hoped was something wrong with my list of repositories ;-)
[10:12] <Moxie> could anyone help?
[10:12] <Moxie> any ideas?
[10:13] <stuart_> I was trying to install direfox 1.5. I followed the wiki and just copied and pasted into terminal. I got a bug311480 and downloaded a fix for it. Now Firefox does not open. I get a mozzila quality feedback screen instead. Any ideas where I went bad?
[10:13] <Stormx2> stuart_: Start over.
[10:14] <psycose> bluefusionxl, may be you have a symlink problem in /etc/ndiswrapper
[10:14] <bluefusionxl> what should I do about it, psycose?
[10:14] <hardbop200> I've got a problem with gmail and getmail, and I can't figure it out
[10:15] <didier> bj
[10:15] <DRK13> rim
[10:15] <bluefusionxl> what should I type in shell psycose?
[10:15] <hardbop200> I did a search for getmail, and it couldn't find a package, so I d/l the tarball
[10:15] <hardbop200> to install, I need python 2.4
[10:16] <hardbop200> when I search for python, I get two billion packages that reference python, but no plain ol' python 2.4
[10:16] <hardbop200> I'm sure I'm missing something here - can you point me in the right direction?
[10:17] <psycose> bluefusionxl, thinking ...
[10:17] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to free my soundcard from other prograpms
[10:17] <bluefusionxl> ok
[10:17] <Moxie> any ideas?
[10:17] <Moxie> someone please help?
[10:18] <stuart_> stormx2_: Nope, It still is not working.
[10:18] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to free my soundcard from other prograpms
[10:18] <Moxie> trying to figure out dual booting?
[10:18] <Moxie> the yaboot
[10:19] <Moxie> it wont start up tiger.....but linux will load fine
[10:19] <Evil_Whisper> how do I remove an application and ALL of its depenancies?
[10:19] <ki8dr> how is the boot loader in ubuntu?
[10:19] <Moxie> shitty!
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> If it helps at all psycose I am using "Hoary Hedgehog"
[10:19] <burning_bronx> shitty my ass
[10:19] <Moxie> fine if your only running one OS
[10:19] <Evil_Whisper> for example If I installed konquror (SP?) and wnted to remove it and all of the dependancies how would I do that?
[10:20] <burning_bronx> grub owns you
[10:20] <Moxie> owns?
[10:20] <Moxie> yea it does actually, cause i cant f@cking figure it out
[10:20] <Moxie> pisses me off
[10:20] <burning_bronx> easy like hell
[10:20] <void^> grub is nice. you can do everything with it.
[10:20] <burning_bronx> true
[10:20] <Moxie> burning could you help me out?
[10:21] <burning_bronx> with what?
[10:21] <Moxie> trying to dual boot
[10:21] <Moxie> mac/linux
[10:21] <ki8dr> what dual systems?
[10:21] <burning_bronx> I've never installed mac & linux
[10:21] <stuart_> I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead.
[10:21] <Moxie> know anything about yaboot?
[10:22] <burning_bronx> I know I prefer gnome >.>
[10:22] <burning_bronx> *grub
[10:22] <burning_bronx> my brain is off
[10:22] <psycose> bluefusionxl, what is the detailled kernel version you are using ?
[10:22] <Moxie> that doesnt help much....
[10:22] <Moxie> do you know anything about dual booting?
[10:22] <Moxie> two OS's one computer?
[10:22] <bluefusionxl> let me check psycose
[10:22] <burning_bronx> I AM dualbooting
[10:23] <burning_bronx> only not on a mac >.>
[10:23] <Moxie> ok....
[10:23] <Moxie> but still
[10:23] <Moxie> what did you use?
[10:23] <Moxie> fdisk?
[10:23] <Moxie> pdisk?
[10:23] <frenchy> hey does anyone here use amarok
[10:23] <stuart_> I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?
[10:23] <burning_bronx> how about ubuntu's partition tool?
[10:23] <coNP> frenchy, sure
[10:24] <bluefusionxl> 2.6.10-5-386
[10:24] <frenchy> do you know why i always get the could not find service kfmclient
[10:24] <bluefusionxl> psycose, it is 2.6.10-5-386
[10:24] <hardbop200> sorry to pester, but does anyone have any ideas on the getmail/python issue?
[10:24] <Nimmit> hey, I need help setting up my wireless card
[10:25] <bluefusionxl> lol so do I nimmit
[10:25] <Stormx2> The "GettingUbuntu" page needs updating. To quote: "Currently, the Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger "Preview" release is available at [WWW]  Breezy Colony's area."
[10:25] <Nimmit> I have a Broadcom wireless card
[10:25] <frenchy> coNPdo you know why i always get the could not find service kfmclient
[10:26] <psycose> bluefusionxl, please display the error again
[10:26] <bluefusionxl> okay psycose
[10:26] <coNP> frenchy, no, I use the one describe here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[10:27] <frenchy> im running gnome
[10:27] <bluefusionxl> psycose, modprod ndiswrapper
[10:27] <bluefusionxl> psycose, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument
[10:28] <stuart_> I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?
[10:28] <coNP> frenchy, me too
[10:28] <nasso> any skilled java programmer here?
[10:28] <psycose> bluefusionxl, do $ ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko         what does it output ?
[10:28] <coNP> nasso, ask, we might help
[10:28] <Randomnick33> well this time my boot cd didn't work, I got no operating system found while trying to boot from the disk. I'm thinking maybe it doesn't like the .iso exetension, any ideas what I did wrong?
[10:28] <nasso> i need to output an byte as an ascii character using System.out
[10:28] <Stormx2> Randomnick33: You burnt it wrong
[10:29] <Randomnick33> lol I guessed that
[10:29] <Stormx2> Randomnick33: You can't just copy the iso onto the disk. Check this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:29] <Randomnick33> I'm using SONIC to burn it
[10:29] <Randomnick33> ok thanks I'll read that
[10:29] <burning_bronx> !iso
[10:29] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:29] <nasso> i cant just System.out.println(byte), it will print the value of the byte, not the ascii-representation of that value...
[10:29] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, btw, this is really, really busy
[10:29] <Lemon-> Stormx2, still there.. :P
[10:29] <bluefusionxl> no such file or directory
[10:29] <Stormx2> Lemon-: I am
[10:30] <Lemon-> Stormx2, hehe
[10:30] <Stormx2> Lemon-: Hanging in there >.<
[10:30] <Lemon-> going to sleep
[10:30] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, ask away, though
[10:30] <Lemon-> good nite
[10:30] <burning_bronx> :P
[10:30] <bluefusionxl> psycose, no such file or directory, and i typed exactly what you said
[10:30] <burning_bronx> night owns you
[10:30] <burning_bronx> ^_^
[10:30] <Hanzo__> whats the install system called in Ubuntu?
[10:30] <psycose> bluefox83, that what i was saying ... a symlink problem ..
[10:30] <coNP> nasso: you want an ASCII code (a number)?
[10:30] <psycose> bluefusionxl,  that what i was saying ... a symlink problem ..
[10:30] <Stormx2> Hanzo__: The Ubuntu Installer
[10:31] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, "install system" sounds confusing
[10:31] <bluefusionxl> yes psycose?
[10:31] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, please define
[10:31] <Stormx2> Uh oh
[10:31] <SweetestSavage> Question: When I try to extract a folder from a .zip archive, I get this error.. Failed to execute child process "/bin/sh" (Argument list too long)
[10:31] <SweetestSavage> Any ideas?
[10:31] <Stormx2> a leg just fell off my chair >.<
[10:31] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: What program are you using?
[10:31] <Hanzo__> the utility to download additional software.
[10:31] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, the Archive Manager
[10:31] <bluefusionxl> how do I fix the symlink problem psycose ?
[10:32] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, synaptic
[10:32] <psycose> bluefusionxl,  you are trying to load a module that do not exist..
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> Is there an archive terminal command?
[10:32] <burning_bronx> actually it's apt
[10:32] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: yes there is
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, may I ask what it is?
[10:32] <nasso> i want it to print the ascii-character that has the same value as the byte. an example. if the byte==100 i want 'd' to be written in the terminal
[10:32] <burning_bronx> synaptic is a front-end
[10:32] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: Not sure what it is though. Let me see.
[10:32] <bluefusionxl> but psycose I ran the .deb
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, Ah, okay. Thanks
[10:32] <kbrooks> burning_bronx, dont tell him that
[10:33] <burning_bronx> why? o_O;
[10:33] <bluefusionxl> what do I need to do psycose?
[10:33] <orchid> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2808 is this corect for ubuntu sources? I'm following the http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre and after updating cant find any jre2 package at all
[10:33] <crimsun_> orchid: there's a j2re in multiverse
[10:33] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: The command is "unzip"
[10:34] <Hanzo__> burning_bronx, its because im stupid!!!
[10:34] <AbdulSpiegel> Question!
[10:34] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: Shoulda guessed that I think! try "unzip file.zip"
[10:34] <burning_bronx> O_O;
[10:34] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, ah, thanks =)
[10:34] <burning_bronx> oookay...
[10:34] <burning_bronx> w/e
[10:34] <orchid> crimsun_: ahh ok, thanks
[10:34] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone tell me if i should be searching 'ubuntu themes' on google or 'gnome themes' ?
[10:34] <crimsun_> orchid: use !info j2re1.4
[10:34] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: gnome-look.org for themes
[10:34] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel, up to you'
[10:34] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, you should go to gnome-look.org
[10:34] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: And yes you should.
[10:34] <burning_bronx> roflmfao
[10:35] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Beat you
[10:35] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, bit me
[10:35] <burning_bronx> *bite me
[10:35] <stuart_> I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?
[10:35] <burning_bronx> :P
[10:35] <psycose> bluefusionxl, may be you could remove your ndiswrapper driver $ sudo ndiswrapper -e <DRIVER> , then continue your tutorial step starting at installing you driver $ sudo ndiswrapper -i ...
[10:35] <Stormx2> o.O
[10:35] <orchid> !info j2re1.4
[10:35] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[10:35] <AbdulSpiegel> WICKED, cus thats the site im on :)
[10:35] <burning_bronx> :P
[10:35] <AbdulSpiegel> Is it GDE themes?
[10:36] <bluefusionxl> ok
[10:36] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Depends what you want to theme,.
[10:36] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel, try that
[10:36] <Juhaz> AbdulSpiegel, if you want application themes, gtk 2.x
[10:36] <Blues-Man> hi all
[10:36] <Anth0ny_> I just realized that i am running on a 386-kernel. Isn't it performing quite bad on a P4 3GHz?
[10:36] <AbdulSpiegel> i just want an entire theme so GDE is alright?
[10:37] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Themes consist of Controls, window borders, and icons
[10:37] <AbdulSpiegel> oh
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, ah it worked beautifully
[10:37] <no0tic> hi, will dapper use X11R7?
[10:37] <AbdulSpiegel> Stormx2, i quess installing them isn't as easy as it is in Windows?
[10:37] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Much eaier
[10:38] <burning_bronx> no0tic, it already does
[10:38] <crimsun_> no0tic: it is, yes.
[10:38] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: You download the file and drag + drop it into the window
[10:38] <AbdulSpiegel> window?
[10:38] <no0tic> crimsun_, burning_bronx :)
[10:38] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: The theme window. System > Preferences > Theme
[10:38] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: The advantage of having the 3 areas seperate is so you can mix and match themes.
[10:38] <Blues-Man> I can't write on the vfat partition, I 've put the  rw,user,noauto options, in your opinion why?
[10:39] <AbdulSpiegel> oh ok
[10:39] <Stormx2> Blues-Man: Check the wiki on MountingWindowsDrives
[10:39] <AbdulSpiegel> ok
[10:39] <Blues-Man> ok
[10:39] <AbdulSpiegel> its a tar.gz
[10:40] <AbdulSpiegel> drag the entire tar.gz?
[10:40] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, PING.
[10:40] <burning_bronx> drag the tar.gz file
[10:40] <burning_bronx> darn
[10:40] <burning_bronx> it can't get more easy than that
[10:40] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Yep, Drag it onto the themes window. It should prompt you to install it
[10:40] <Hanzo__> !ping kbrooks
[10:40] <ubotu> Hanzo__: What?
[10:41] <pozdiy> I have Rage 128 PF 16 Mb card under Ubuntu Breezy with r128 dirver, xdriinfo says Screen 0: r128, but glxinfo says direct rendering: No, how to enable DRI?
[10:41] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Once you have, select "Theme Details" and select the theme you just installed from the list
[10:41] <Stormx2> Hanzo__: What are you trying to acheive?
[10:41] <niffe> how can i change reselution? I`v tried in system but there is only 640x480
[10:41] <pashaw> Anth0ny_, are you having problems with it?
[10:41] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, as in
[10:41] <JFlash> is there a website that is like "linux for dummies" or something?
[10:41] <Stormx2> niffe: you need to reconfigure xorg
[10:41] <Stormx2> !xorg
[10:41] <ubotu> xorg is probably to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:41] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, "are you there. if so, pong me back"
[10:41] <Hanzo__> how
[10:41] <Stormx2> JFlash: Check the "Absolute beginners talk" at ubuntuforums.org
[10:41] <Anth0ny_> pashaw, I think I read somewhere, that you always should install the 686 in order to increase performance?
[10:42] <Stormx2> JFlash: And of course, ask any questions you have here
[10:42] <mrtwister> JFlash: for what
[10:42] <mrtwister> JFlash: what problems?
[10:42] <navarone> JFlash, if you use a p2p client do a search for linux for dummies pdf and you should be able to get a pdf doc
[10:42] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, "kbrooks: PONG", oddly enough
[10:42] <Hanzo__> kbrooks: PONG
[10:42] <kbrooks> no
[10:42] <Hanzo__> nvm
[10:42] <kbrooks> that was a example
[10:42] <bluefoxicy> why would you need a linux for dummies or whatever, it would probably overcomplicate the usage of linux
[10:43] <pashaw> Anth0ny_, thats just to maximise the performance  (use all additional instruction sets)   otherwise youll be fine for a long time
[10:43] <sureshot> i need help getting gambas to run. i click on the icon it seems to try to come up but does not
[10:43] <Stormx2> bluefoxicy: We were all 1337 n00bz once.
[10:43] <pashaw> Anth0ny_, when you get bored trying new things   jump on switching it over
[10:43] <psycose> pozdiy have you got the line :      Load    "dri"           in your "Module" Section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[10:44] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  yeah, and Linux books typically don't seem to go for "Point, click, log in. . ."
[10:44] <pozdiy> psycose, (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
[10:44] <Anth0ny_> pashaw, okay, thanks
[10:44] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  they seem to be more focused on "Oh btw bash has tab complete.  You can update using rpm or apt-get."
[10:44] <Stormx2> bluefoxicy: Indeed. looking for a "GNOME for dummies" book would be a better idea
[10:45] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  I've yet to see a basic Linux book that starts anywhere but bash.  :(
[10:45] <psycose> pozdiy sorry i can't help you ;-)
[10:45] <Stormx2> bluefoxicy: Thats cause everything on linux is built on bash
[10:45] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  Writing your own would be better.  "To get started, we'll go into LiveCDs.  LiveCDs will let you experience Linux without installing it."
[10:45] <blo> tnxs Evil_Whisper 4 the help (was ffox 1.5)
[10:45] <pozdiy> psycose, tnx
[10:46] <sureshot> is there anyone on tonight that uses gambas
[10:46] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  Actually, everything on Linux is built on C, including bash.  Apparently we don't have to learn C to use Linux though.
[10:46] <Stormx2> The problem with FF is every version feels exactly the same
[10:46] <Stormx2> bluefoxicy: Well yes. But then C is built on stuff below it too.
[10:47] <burning_bronx> you could take me higher, so you said
[10:47] <burning_bronx> I trusted you
[10:47] <jave> I'm trying to use smbmount in ubuntu, I just installed.. but it doesn't seem to be available
[10:47] <burning_bronx> I may be a liar, but betrayal
[10:47] <jave> How do I acquire it?
[10:47] <burning_bronx> lies in you
[10:47] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  questionable argument.  The stuff below C doesn't necessarily become anything in particular; it could become ARM, PPC, 8086, or 68000 assembly
[10:47] <concept10> Stormx2, thats not true, ff 1.5 feels slower
[10:47] <John> I am in the midst of using Live CD as a demo. I cannot shut off my computer. Any suggestions please??.
[10:47] <Stormx2> concept10: haha true
[10:47] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  all different, different MMU concepts, different registers, etc.  You can't say C is exactly built on anything in particular
[10:48] <bluefoxicy> Stormx2:  except vi, perhaps.
[10:48] <concept10> John, sudo shutdown now
[10:48] <jave> What is the default pass for root anyway? I can do sudo by using the same password as I set for my normal user, but "su root" doesnt work with the same password
[10:48] <John> Not faimailiar with "sudo"
[10:48] <zoka> I just want to thank to the people who made such a great distribution
[10:48] <Stormx2> !root
[10:48] <Stormx2> !tell jave about root
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> jave:  No root password exists.  Root is disabled.
[10:49] <zoka> use sudo
[10:49] <concept10> John, bring up a terminal window.  and run the command sudo shutdown now
[10:49] <jave> Oh
[10:49] <Stormx2> jave: Check your messages from ubotu.
[10:49] <John> What is "sudo", please?
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> John:  You can't shutdown your computer?
[10:49] <zoka> jave root is root of all evil
[10:49] <Stormx2> jave: You can enable root, but it breaks the GUI system tools
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> John:  Just flip the switch off, if no drives are mounted
[10:49] <cmatheson> John: you'll probably want shutdown -h now
[10:49] <bluefoxicy> John:  or press the power button
[10:49] <John> No
[10:49] <Stormx2> have some r00tb33r
[10:49] <jave> Alright, thanks
[10:50] <jave> hm... I just need to know, how do I set permissions for a directory so that all users can access it?
[10:50] <bluefoxicy> John:  pressing power once will tell the kernel you want to shut down, so it will do so.
[10:50] <John> Have pressed power button.
[10:50] <Stormx2> John: sudo is "Super User DO"
[10:50] <bluefoxicy> John:  did you mount any drives?
[10:50] <ga^vu> I'm trying to connect on ubuntu as root, but it seems i do not have the password...is there a default password?
[10:50] <gwynm> jave: chmod -R ugo+rx mydir ?
[10:50] <bluefoxicy> ga^vu:  don't ssh in as root, ssh as your own user
[10:50] <John> No, no drives mounted
[10:50] <bluefoxicy> John:  Then just hold the power button in until it shuts off, or press reset.
[10:50] <gwynm> I've got a laptop here with no cd drive, but I have ethernet and a 512mb bootable usb key. Is it possible to do an ubuntu install?
[10:51] <ga^vu> but i do't have permission to use other partitions
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> John:  otherwise, system->log off
[10:51] <ga^vu> and i need them
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> either or.
[10:51] <Stormx2> gwynm: Very possible
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> (powering off is faster on a livecd)
[10:51] <LiGhTeR> hi all =)
[10:51] <zoka> ok people how to instal ruby and ruby on rails
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Can someone explain to me what SNAT is?
[10:51] <gwynm> zoka: apt-get install ruby
[10:51] <bluefoxicy> ga^vu:  then log in and use sudo to get root.
[10:51] <gwynm> zoka: apt-get install rails :)
[10:51] <zoka> I have bilion of conflicts
[10:51] <Stormx2> Hi LiGhTeR!
[10:51] <ga^vu> sudo?
[10:51] <gwynm> stormx2: Okay, perhaps I should have asked.. *how* do I install ubuntu? :)
[10:51] <Stormx2> zoka: apt-get install ruby?
[10:51] <ga^vu> how do i do that?
[10:52] <Stormx2> ga^vu: Write sudo before a command you need root for
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> ga^vu:  userps root with your own password, if and only if you have root access.
[10:52] <bluefoxicy> ga^vu:  sudo ls /root
[10:52] <LiGhTeR> tommorow im going to install ubuntu on my server and my q is that if it is possible to share the hdd in the network so that both my linux comp and windows computers can access to the hard drives =)
[10:52] <gwynm> stormx2: If you give me the top-level steps I can google the details.
[10:52] <LiGhTeR> and if it's easy =)
[10:52] <sureshot> so no one kwows anything about gambas this after noon. i will try again later
[10:52] <Stormx2> LiGhTeR: Yep, Samba can do that
[10:52] <gwynm> lighter: Yes, use Samba.
[10:52] <concept10> sureshot, did you try the gambas channel?
[10:52] <jave> I can't change the permissions of my mounted drives, even using sudo.. im doing "chmod ugo+rx hda1" but it throws out "read-only file system", it's NTFS.... how do I solve this?
[10:52] <sureshot> this is one i am a newbie
[10:53] <sureshot> how do i get there
[10:53] <Stormx2> gwynm: I think theres is a wiki page on it. Otherwise, try ubuntuforums.org <-- There will definately be a howto on it
[10:53] <concept10> ->  /join #channel
[10:53] <gwynm> jave: You can't. NTFS is read-only because MS haven't released the specs and the driver can't safely write to it.
[10:53] <Stormx2> jave: unmount, the mount with umask=0000
[10:53] <John> Thank you - kept pressing the shut-off. I am looking at putting the program on an IBM Thinkpad Pentium II leaving Widows 98 in place due to the material I have ondorard. The harddrive is partitioned. Any thoughts, please?
[10:53] <jave> alright
[10:53] <Stormx2> jave: Wait
[10:53] <Stormx2> jave: Not on NTFS
[10:53] <sureshot> i have tried the deb install it just does not come up
[10:53] <jave> oh
[10:53] <zoka> E: Package ruby1.8 has no installation candidate
[10:53] <zoka> what to f
[10:53] <Stormx2> jave: DO NOT try to write to NTFS. Bad idea
[10:53] <trappist> zoka: libruby1.8, ruby
[10:54] <LiGhTeR> stormx2 gwynm okay thx =) but im also thinking of putting the server directly on the broadband line and behind the server put a switch and connect my other computers throw that switsch is that also possible ?? =)
[10:54] <jave> So how do I access it? Even if it's read-only... I can't even cd to it because it says permission denied
[10:54] <ga^vu> thanks
[10:54] <niffe> how  can i rename xorg.conf?
[10:54] <Stormx2> LiGhTeR: I have no idea
[10:54] <sureshot> you will corrupt ntfs that way
[10:54] <burning_bronx> actually 2.6.15 "has" some NTFS write functionality
[10:54] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:55] <jave> Forget that, I don't want to write to it! I just want to access the files
[10:55] <pashaw> LiGhTeR, Sambas  on a front line server is a bad idea   use something like clarkconnect to do that
[10:55] <sureshot> tricky you need to know what you are doing or you will corrupt it
[10:55] <LiGhTeR> pashaw okay =)
[10:55] <gwynm> jave: If you just want everyone to have read access, then that umask=000 ought to do it..?
[10:55] <jave> Alright...
[10:55] <jave> Thanks
[10:55] <Stormx2> jave: If it is read only, then you can access the files
[10:56] <pashaw> LiGhTeR,  clarkconnect will share your connect as you described and  give you a fairly safe Samba share for internal users
[10:56] <jave> Stormx2,  I get permission denied when trying to cd to the mounted drive, but I'll try umask=000
[10:56] <burning_bronx> hmm I am using umask=722 here
[10:56] <burning_bronx> works fine
[10:56] <zoka> E: Package libruby1.8 has no installation candidate
[10:56] <zoka> grrrrr
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> apt is too damn slow
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> it's written poorly.
[10:56] <AbdulSpiegel> Stormx2, okay okay im kinda lost
[10:56] <LiGhTeR> pashaw okay thank you so much i will start work with it tommorow (coun on alot of q:s about it ;);) )
[10:56] <bluefoxicy> It spends like 10 seconds "Unpacking xfce4-icons"
[10:57] <trappist> zoka: you've got some issues with your repositories
[10:57] <bluefoxicy> during which time it's using about 2% of the CPU
[10:57] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, where did you got lost?
[10:57] <gwynm> stormx2: Found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:57] <bluefoxicy> CPU usage should be maxed at all times.
[10:57] <gwynm> stormx2: Obviously, it needs a >650mb usb stick :(.
[10:57] <trappist> bluefoxicy: not every process is cpu-intensive.  extracting a zillion icons from a non-compressed archive, for example, would just be i/o-intensive.
[10:58] <jave> Why isn't "smbmount" available? I thought that was standard in samba? Hm. So how am I supposed to mount a networked windows share without smbmount?
[10:58] <trappist> jave: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[10:58] <jave> Thanks again
[10:58] <Apache_am> There is someone from Brasil ???
[10:58] <holycow> how the hell does partimage image  a 20 gig drive in 2 minutes?
[10:58] <AbdulSpiegel> burning_bronx, okay so im looking for themes and all i saw in GDM is like login screen stuff, so i went to GTK 2.1 and like theres abunch of files
[10:58] <holycow> jesus
[10:58] <Apache_am> Is there someone ?
[10:58] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont know what to do
[10:59] <burning_bronx> so?
[10:59] <RaisedFist> Please help me with this: I installed fluxbox from source and I don't know how to add it to the GDM sessions. Thanks
[10:59] <sureshot> is the command to list the chanels /list
[10:59] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  ok, but it seems to be minimally CPU intensive on everytihng, and I though debs were bzip2'd now.
[10:59] <trappist> Apache_am: try #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[10:59] <servoe> How do I CTRL+ALT+DEL in linux?
[10:59] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, you download the tar.gz and drag it to the themes window?
[10:59] <holycow> you don't servoe
[10:59] <holycow> what do you need to accomplish?
[10:59] <Apache_am> Thanks i will try ..
[11:00] <servoe> firefox is frozen, and sitting there
[11:00] <AbdulSpiegel> burning_bronx, yeh i did that, bu i get an error,  it says file format is invalid
[11:00] <ggeller> I'm having trouble installing ununtu on my new AMD64 system.  After I specify the keyboard, I get an error "Detect and mount CD-ROM  Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted..."  No matter if I eject the CD-ROM and re-instert it, it won't mount!  The machine installed Windows 2000 Pro with no problem and runs Knoppix OK.  What should I do?
[11:00] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:00] <trappist> ggeller: that happened to me.  worked fine in a different cdrom drive.
[11:00] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, how very peculiar... I just installed a theme this way and it worked fine
[11:00] <niffe> how do i restart x server?
[11:00] <burning_bronx> have you tried more than one file?
[11:00] <burning_bronx> maybe the one you tried was corrupted?
[11:01] <trappist> niffe: ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:01] <AbdulSpiegel> then i tried saving to desktop and hitting the 'install theme' thing and still go the same error
[11:01] <RaisedFist> Please help me with this: I installed fluxbox from source and I don't know how to add it to the GDM sessions. Thanks
[11:01] <trappist> RaisedFist: why from source?
[11:01] <holycow> servoe, you can kill it a few ways, easiest is to add  the kill window applet to your desktop.  you can alternatively add a system monitor applet to desktop and when an app hangs you can open up a services window like in win to kill the app.
[11:02] <ggeller> trappist:  OK.  I'll swap one from another box.  Thanks.
[11:02] <holycow> servoe, alternatively you can kill it via command line a number of ways.
[11:02] <RaisedFist> trappist, because the one installed from synaptic is not working
[11:02] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, have you tried more than one file?
[11:02] <holycow> if t hat doesn't work you can restart your entire x session with ctrl/alt/backspace
[11:02] <AbdulSpiegel> yup
[11:02] <servoe> how do I start x-win again when I CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE?
[11:02] <lorent> juess wut!
[11:03] <burning_bronx> and you keep getting the same error?
[11:03] <jave> What's a good mp3 player?
[11:03] <burning_bronx> weird...
[11:03] <djk_> jave: amarok
[11:03] <burning_bronx> jave, what dm you using?
[11:03] <jave> Ill check it out thanks
[11:03] <niffe> hmm, i reconfigured xorg.conf, restarted it, and still i cant change resolution
[11:03] <christianp> hi all
[11:03] <ossie> hi
[11:03] <lorent> the zen creative touch is my fav mp3 player for the price
[11:03] <burning_bronx> if you're using KDE - amarok, if you're using gnome - Beep Media Player
[11:03] <jave> jave, gnome... but I'm trying to switch to fluxbox or fvwm but neither apt-get install fluxbox or fvwm is working ^
[11:04] <lorent> ooo zat kind?
[11:04] <irvin> servoe, startx
[11:04] <jave> er, burning_bronx *
[11:04] <servoe> thanks!
[11:04] <ossie> can anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???
[11:04] <motoguzziman> hi all, i have a quick question. when i install using the synaptic p.m does the sysem hold on to the downloaded files and if so where are the help in the file system?
[11:04] <burning_bronx> jave go for the beep media player then
[11:04] <AbdulSpiegel> burning_bronx, this is the one i want http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[11:04] <jave> alright
[11:04] <burning_bronx> also try the fluxbox channel on this serv
[11:04] <concept10> jave, you need to add a session file
[11:05] <jave> a session file? =/
[11:05] <burning_bronx> AbdulSpiegel, I've used that
[11:05] <burning_bronx> it's overrated
[11:05] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:05] <lorent> ive got a question before im out, my left arrow key never works unless i change my keyboard configuration to like UK and then back to US, any idea wtf thats about?
[11:06] <concept10> jave, google for how to add a fluxbox session file ...  /usr/share/xsessions
[11:06] <AbdulSpiegel> burning_bronx, darn, are there any better ones
[11:06] <jc-denton> http://www.bsdgangster.org/
[11:06] <jc-denton> y0
[11:06] <jave> concept10,  will that solve "couldn't find package fluxbox"?
[11:06] <AbdulSpiegel> burning_bronx, i need something to work with Ubuntu 5.10
[11:07] <burning_bronx> personally I use xfwm4 with clearlooks theme
[11:07] <concept10> jave, no, thats something different
[11:07] <burning_bronx> ;)
[11:07] <jave> Okay...
[11:07] <burning_bronx> it's pretty weird ya noe ~_~
[11:07] <concept10> burning_bronx, well you will love the clearlooks 2 theme, its the best
[11:07] <jave> burning_bronx, whats the packagename for bleep media player?
[11:07] <motoguzziman>  i have a quick question. when i install using the synaptic p.m does the sysem hold on to the downloaded files and if so where are the help in the file system?
[11:07] <vir> should be able to find some stuff on installing fluxbox on the forum
[11:08] <burning_bronx> jave, bmp or something
[11:08] <burning_bronx> just a sec
[11:08] <baldy1324> hi ive got a question about speakers/alsa
[11:08] <Apache_am> Where can i configure workgroup, domain usin ubuntu
[11:08] <Apache_am> ?
[11:08] <Stormx2> How big is a standard ubuntu install?
[11:08] <burning_bronx> I think a gig or two o_O;
[11:09] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Hmm
[11:09] <jave> Stormx2,  2gb
[11:09] <burning_bronx> Stormx2, that depends on what you usin...
[11:09] <jave> I just installed and it's using 2gb
[11:09] <vir> its worth it Stormx2
[11:09] <ossie> can anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???
[11:09] <burning_bronx> if you go for lightweight stuff it can be packed in half a gig
[11:09] <irvin> who's asking about fluxbox?
[11:09] <jave> vir,  I'm not impressed... I'm switching back to gentoo =P
[11:09] <Stormx2> vir: its for a friend. Im already using ubuntu
[11:09] <jave> irvin,  I am
[11:09] <burning_bronx> jave go sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[11:10] <irvin> jave, have you been here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[11:10] <jave> E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[11:10] <jave> I haven't, I'll check it out thanks
[11:10] <baldy1324> i hav a question about alsa/speakers
[11:10] <burning_bronx> jave do you have universe enabled?
[11:10] <AbdulSpiegel> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
[11:10] <nickrud> jave, also, read AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one here use m:trip?
[11:10] <Stormx2> jave: Enable universe and multiverse
[11:10] <AbdulSpiegel> Damn theme stuff
[11:10] <vir> apt-get = great :)
[11:10] <jave> burning_bronx, since I don't know what that is, I guess not
[11:10] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Shhh
[11:10] <Stormx2> AbdulSpiegel: Whats the problem? :-\
[11:11] <nickrud> !components
[11:11] <ubotu> well, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[11:11] <sureshot> can someone tell me about hoe to enable universe and multiverse from with in ubuntu
[11:11] <vir> jane....
[11:11] <burning_bronx> jave in terminal do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:11] <mifritscher> hi
[11:11] <Apache_am> Where can i configure workgroup, domain and etc with samba ?
[11:12] <vir> damn you beaT me to it burning_bronx
[11:12] <mifritscher> which program makes the content in /sys?
[11:12] <Stormx2> sureshot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:12] <burning_bronx> !sources.list
[11:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:12] <void^> mifritscher: linux
[11:12] <burning_bronx> !repositories
[11:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:12] <irvin> ubotu, you there?
[11:12] <ubotu> irvin: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:12] <sureshot> ok i keep forgetting about that wiki thanks again. sorry for such petty questions i am learnig though
[11:12] <JFlash> ok, i'm thinking about trying another distro that is easier on me then Ubuntu, but i want to stick to gnome. So I check Mepis and see it uses KDE, Then I check Mandriva, but i users KDE too. Now I'm ok, let's see about Linspire, "world's easiest" as they say.... o f00nk !!  KDE again!!!  Dude, what do I do??
[11:12] <mifritscher> void, which part of it?
[11:12] <Stormx2> sureshot: No problem
[11:13] <mifritscher> my problem is that this directory is empty...
[11:13] <void^> mifritscher: the kernel part
[11:13] <nick01> JFlash, mandriva has gnome too
[11:13] <pashaw> jave,   System-> Help -> Starter Guide  ->  installing programs     (scroll down)  Adding Universe/Multiverse
[11:13] <SweetestSavage> Can someone tell me how I can use IPTables?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> mandriva is the sux0rz >.>
[11:13] <mifritscher> so, how can I let the kernel make the content?
[11:13] <vir> JFlash,  what are youhaving probs with?
[11:13] <baldy1324> i hav a question about alsa/speakers....
[11:13] <whadar> JFlash: linus say KDE... why do you want gnome? ;)
[11:14] <void^> mifritscher: mount -t sysfs none /sys
[11:14] <burning_bronx> Linus knows nuffin'!
[11:14] <burning_bronx> XD
[11:14] <void^> mifritscher: if it doesn't work your kernel lacks sysfs support
[11:14] <Stormx2> JFlash: What is wrong with ubuntu :(
[11:14] <indy> hello!! i'm a new ubuntu user, can you help me?
[11:14] <nickrud> !lart linus
[11:14] <vir> SweetestSavage  you could use firestarter
[11:14] <Stormx2> Yeah i saw that comment about KDE linus made XD
[11:14] <mifritscher> many thanks, void :-)
[11:14] <SweetestSavage> vir, could you teach me how?
[11:14] <indy> can you tell me an antivirus for ubuntu that scans a windows partition?
[11:14] <burning_bronx> indy O_O
[11:15] <zoka> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:15] <burning_bronx> why would you want this?
[11:15] <Stormx2> "Gnome is a disease"
[11:15] <vir> SweetestSavage firestarter is a gui front end for iptables
[11:15] <Stormx2> >.<
[11:15] <void^> indy: clamav
[11:15] <nickrud> gnome-terminal
[11:15] <burning_bronx> Gnome owns you.
[11:15] <vir> gnome is ace
[11:15] <QRZ> SweetestSavage:  Nobody can just tell you how to use iptables... books are written on it!  It's a vast subject.
[11:15] <burning_bronx> Gnome > KDE
[11:15] <nickrud> gak
[11:15] <zoka> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:15] <JFlash> KDE is ugly as hell
[11:15] <zoka> what to do people
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> QRZ - Any references you could point me towards?
[11:15] <klaym> hello! how can I check my computer's main board name and precise information?
[11:15] <chapium> gnome is missing one thing
[11:15] <chapium> and that is gnomes
[11:15] <DRK13> lol KDE
[11:15] <chapium> it is sad
[11:15] <whadar> burning_bronx: :)
[11:15] <indy> nickrud, can you explain me how install it?
[11:15] <tomaj> how much of a crackpot is linus, kde > gnome my ass, i dont see firefox, azureus or thunderbird working natively in kde. Case closed!!
[11:15] <QRZ> SweetestSavage:  Yeah.  Hold on a sec...
[11:15] <Stormx2> "This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do."
[11:15] <JFlash> and gnome is smooth in my eyes. to me it all comes down to this. sorry about that
[11:15] <nickrud> zoka, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <DRK13> KDE = :cran:
[11:15] <jave> gnome is crap, kde is less crap, but both are among the ranks of the crap :p
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> QRZ - Thank you
[11:16] <indy> i dont know use linux like as windows?
[11:16] <nickrud> indy, if that's about clamav, I know nothing :)
[11:16] <burning_bronx> gnome is good
[11:16] <burning_bronx> I mean the desktop
[11:16] <QRZ> SweetestSavage:  http://www.netfilter.org/
[11:16] <vir> gaim = gtk bby :D
[11:16] <burning_bronx> the metacity wm is ghei
[11:16] <Seveas> kill the desktop war
[11:16] <tomaj> kde looks nicer and feels nicer to work with but it doesnt have firefox or azureus so therefore nothing can beat gnome
[11:16] <Seveas> it's totally off-topic
[11:16] <chapium> i like gnome's defaults, but I wish I could add/remove a few things
[11:16] <vir> KDE has nothing as good as gaim
[11:16] <vir> :P
[11:16] <QRZ> SweetestSavage:  http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html
[11:16] <Stormx2> Guys
[11:17] <Stormx2> He's op now
[11:17] <whadar> gaim?
[11:17] <Stormx2> >.<
[11:17] <plagerism> what is this master     8813       root   11u     IPv4              12143                 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN)
[11:17] <burning_bronx> gaim > kopete
[11:17] <SweetestSavage> QRZ - Thanks a lot =)
[11:17] <chapium> gaim actually does not use gnome libraries...
[11:17] <QRZ> SweetestSavage:  np
[11:17] <void^> quit the kde<>gnome talk, it makes everyone look stupid
[11:17] <Astxist> anyone know how to get the version of a install program/package?
[11:17] <Stormx2> We love you seveas, please don't kick us :(
[11:17] <burning_bronx> wtf was that?
[11:17] <nickrud> plagerism, that's postfix
[11:17] <jave> tomaj: KDE doesnt have firefox? what is preventing you from running firefox under kde?
[11:17] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[11:17] <nasso> Astxist, check in synaptic
[11:17] <vir> gaim 2.... .is going to be great
[11:17] <mifritscher> the next problem with suspend to disk: it doesn't find my swap-partition :( it is mounted correctly (see it with free)
[11:17] <Seveas> Stormx2, then don't start/continue such crap discussions
[11:17] <Stormx2> burning_bronx: Too much KDE & GNOME holy war
[11:17] <Astxist> nasso, in use
[11:17] <burning_bronx> lol
[11:17] <DRK13> gaim 2???????
[11:17] <Stormx2> Seveas: I didn't. I didn't even take sides!
[11:17] <vir> jane its not native
[11:17] <chapium> is there a version of gaim using QT?  That would be interesting
[11:17] <Astxist> nasso, and I'd prefer one that works for the cmd line
[11:18] <Seveas> Stormx2, but you fed it with the linus quote
[11:18] <plagerism> nickrud, do I need that??
[11:18] <Seveas> chapium, it's called kopete :)
[11:18] <nasso> Astxist, okay then.. take a look at apt-cache, might be it :)
[11:18] <cgnet> hello
[11:18] <vir> yes DRK13  gaim 2 is beta
[11:18] <Astxist> nasso, thanks
[11:18] <burning_bronx> anyway
[11:18] <nickrud> plagerism, well, now, that is an issue under discussion :) but probably not. You have all your mail stuff configured in evolution, right?
[11:18] <Seveas> gaim2 is beta and not nearly finished/usable
[11:18] <pashaw> Astxist,   are you asking how to check versions already installed?
[11:18] <indy> ok, nickrud, im seeing clamav in internet, excuse me if i dont ask you ok, im from spain and not speak english very good
[11:18] <nasso> Astxist, np :)
[11:18] <vir> its going to have VOIP and wecam support
[11:18] <burning_bronx> I tried gaim2
[11:18] <burning_bronx> it was nice
[11:18] <plagerism> nickrud, yes I do
[11:18] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:18] <nickrud> indy, no problem, if I knew anything, I'd help
[11:18] <Astxist> pashaw, yes from the cmdline
[11:18] <Stormx2> Seveas: Aww come on :( I've been sitting in this channel helping people and i give one lousy quote from the guy who made us all be here and suddenly I'm evil :(
[11:19] <chapium> if kopete is gaim with qt, then functionality wise, they should be equals
[11:19] <Seveas> indy, you might try #ubuntu-es if you prefer to speak spanish
[11:19] <pashaw> Ashtonian,   dpkg -l
[11:19] <JFlash> is Suse easier on Noobs then Ubuntu?  I have been trying to configure this system for days and I still cant get evrything to work!!
[11:19] <nickrud> plagerism, then no, you don't really need postfix
[11:19] <chapium> alas, I favor adium... that thing rocks
[11:19] <burning_bronx> JFlash, what can't you configure?
[11:19] <odat> anyone have any experience getting aureal a3d sound working
[11:19] <plagerism> nickrud: I believe my system was compromised last night, because another isp complained that I was DDOS attacking an ip last night
[11:19] <vir> JFlash,  you been to the forums?
[11:19] <nickrud> plagerism, what version are you running?
[11:19] <Seveas> JFlash, suse is different. Some parts more difficult, some parts maybe easier
[11:19] <JFlash> last thing was getting my CD-RW to display/erase/record as expected.  It's just too decieving!!!
[11:19] <nickrud> plagerism, ubuntu I mean
[11:19] <Astxist> ah apt-cache show xserver-xorg worked thanks again nasso
[11:20] <indy> thanks seveas, but i prefer speak in english, because in my work i must speak it ;)
[11:20] <klaym> hey where can I check my mother board's technical information?
[11:20] <Seveas> indy, okido :)
[11:20] <Seveas> klaym, lshw/lshal
[11:20] <chapium> klaym, the manufacturer's website
[11:20] <plagerism> nickrud: breezy
[11:20] <concept10> I cant change the controls on my theme any more, its locked somewhere. Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:20] <burning_bronx> I don't know what you find deceiving... but okay
[11:20] <klaym> Seveas: thanks
[11:20] <JFlash> burning_bronx,  there's nothing I cant configure, but it usually takes hours and lots of reading and tons of quirks to configure each item. That all adds up, that's the problem
[11:21] <coNP> _null ++ :)
[11:21] <vir> JFlash,  try ubuntuforums.org and do a search for ubuntuguide
[11:21] <burning_bronx> JFlash, do you use the forums?
[11:21] <Seveas> JFlash, I doubt suse will be easier for you then
[11:21] <nickrud> plagerism, then, postfix is not a standard part of breezy, you have to install it yourself. It's a mail daemon, and something someone would like to hack into your system.
[11:21] <Seveas> ime Ubuntu is the easiest to configure
[11:21] <JFlash> vir, yea, i've been around there sometimes
[11:21] <ice> hello
[11:21] <Seveas> hi ice
[11:21] <JFlash> Seveas, thanks for your opinion!
[11:21] <vir> JFlash,  you can use automix i think its called
[11:21] <ice> any one know how to get microsoft games on ubuntu
[11:21] <Seveas> automatix is crap
[11:21] <plagerism> nickrud:  I am running breezy, however I upgraded progressively from warty
[11:21] <JFlash> vir, what's automix?
[11:22] <chapium> ice, which ones?
[11:22] <Seveas> ice, cedega
[11:22] <ice> um halo
[11:22] <nickrud> plagerism, ok, hoary did install postfix
[11:22] <ice> mostly
[11:22] <cgnet> I have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?
[11:22] <odat> anyone have any experience getting aureal a3d sound working
[11:22] <bluefoxicy> blast
[11:22] <plagerism> nickrud:  how do I disable it??
[11:22] <ice> but this a test machine so i dont think halo  will work on it
[11:22] <burning_bronx> JFlash, it's a tool that supposedly installs all the things you'd need
[11:22] <Seveas> JFlash, he means automatix, an evil crappy piece of shit that some people mistake to be an easy installer
[11:22] <bluefoxicy> the ipod has an OS on it
[11:22] <chapium> ice, you can try cedaga like Seveas said... dont be surprised if its crap though :D
[11:22] <vir> JFlash,  its a installer... it will set up msfonts, java w32 codecs
[11:22] <Seveas> but in fact it's an easy trigger-a-reinstaller
[11:22] <Thom_> hi all
[11:22] <vir> firestarter
[11:23] <void^> ice: it's reasonable to assume microsoft games work best on microsoft platforms
[11:23] <Thom_> little question :)
[11:23] <Thom_> how to install ati drivers?
[11:23] <Seveas> vir, don't advise automatix in here
[11:23] <Thom_> or reinstall becouse of new kernel?
[11:23] <Seveas> !tell Thom_ about ati
[11:23] <nickrud> plagerism, you can simply apt-get postix away. There are some things that will want a mailer, however. It all depends on if you installed them. apt-get will complain about removing extra packages then.
[11:23] <cgnet> I have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?
[11:23] <Stormx2> Yeah i installed a new kernel version today. Rebooted and got "kernel panic"
[11:23] <nickrud> plagerism, if apt doesn't complain, then continue with the remove.
[11:24] <JFlash> Seveas, why is it evil?
[11:24] <burning_bronx> my latest kernel pwns
[11:24] <vir> ok Seveas
[11:24] <burning_bronx> JFlash, it would mess your system enought to have to reinstall
[11:24] <indy> another question ;), can i use a rpm package in ubuntu?
[11:24] <Seveas> JFlash, it overwrites config files, mindlessly uses --force-yes and makes no backups
[11:24] <BlueEagle> stormx2: It would appear as you didn't compile all the required drivers then. :)
[11:24] <Seveas> it is TOTAL CRAP
[11:24] <chapium> !automatix
[11:24] <ubotu> automatix is, like, crap
[11:24] <Stormx2> indy: Yep. use alien
[11:24] <rinzai-sh1> indy: yes...look into alien
[11:24] <Seveas> and triggered dozens of reinstalls already
[11:24] <ice> ok now how d you extract files and install them
[11:24] <burning_bronx> !EasyUbuntu
[11:24] <vir> lol
[11:24] <Stormx2> BlueEagle: I rebooted again and it was fine.
[11:25] <JFlash> ubotu tell JFlash about automatix
[11:25] <burning_bronx> Seveas, there should be an entry about EasyUbuntu
[11:25] <rinzai-sh1> automatix could be written better with just ten monkeys and ten typewriters!  w00t!
[11:25] <AMDXP> ok if i want to make a folder read/writeable in the /var/www folder i do a chmod correct
[11:25] <ice> im a linux newbe
[11:25] <Seveas> burning_bronx, easy{breezy,ubuntu} is still in development, older versions suck as much as automatix
[11:25] <chapium> i like the idea of automatix
[11:25] <ice> how do you extract files and install them
[11:25] <Seveas> AMDXP, yes
[11:25] <chapium> ice, welcome
[11:25] <ice> yo
[11:25] <JFlash> LOL. ubotu tells me automatix is crap !!
[11:25] <BlueEagle> stormx2: So your kernel paniced when attempting to boot it the first time but when you attempted to boot it again it worked?
[11:25] <burning_bronx> I heard EasyUbuntu merged with Automatix... anyway
[11:25] <Seveas> chapium, the idea is nice, the implementation is shit
[11:25] <BlueEagle> o.O
[11:25] <AMDXP> Seveas and for all the folders inside that folder i would have to use  -R correct
[11:25] <burning_bronx> enough bout that - better learn do stuff manually
[11:26] <Seveas> AMDXP, correct again
[11:26] <Stormx2> BlueEagle: Yep. Its happened to me once before with FC
[11:26] <burning_bronx> get the power in your hands
[11:26] <dydimustk> should I be able to get firefox 1.5 up and running?
[11:26] <AMDXP> ok let me try this again
[11:26] <Seveas> dydimustk, why would you?
[11:26] <chapium> Seveas: Yeah, I looked it over, but was frustrated that it would be installing a ton of baggage I do not need.
[11:26] <cgnet> I have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?
[11:26] <odat> anyone have any experience getting aureal a3d working
[11:26] <ice> hay cadaga isint free
[11:26] <ice> what about wine
[11:26] <dydimustk> Seveas: should I not want to?
[11:26] <Thom_> so :P
[11:26] <BlueEagle> stormx2: Did you do a hard reboot after the panic? (ie. turn the power completely off, not just ctrl+alt+del?)
[11:26] <Thom_> that fucked up
[11:26] <Thom_> tell me about ati again please :P
[11:26] <chapium> ice, cedaga  helps with directx support.. wine does not
[11:26] <Seveas> dydimustk, 1.5 is not much different from 1.0.7
[11:27] <Thom_> !tell _thom about ati
[11:27] <Stormx2> BlueEagle: I hit the reset button.
[11:27] <ice> but its not free
[11:27] <vir> ice  you can complie cefega from cvs i believe don't ask me how
[11:27] <Seveas> no different at all for the thing I use it for
[11:27] <BlueEagle> stormx2: Sounds weird.
[11:27] <ice> ???
[11:27] <Seveas> and 1.0.7 is supported in Breezy
[11:27] <dydimustk> Seveas, I'm not having much luck with extensions
[11:27] <ice> ok talk to me like a child
[11:27] <dydimustk> I guess I'll just have to look for older one
[11:27] <dydimustk> s
[11:27] <ice> one who knows windows like the back of my hand
[11:27] <AMDXP> Seveas: I am trying to make a folder jinzora and all folders inside read / writeable
[11:27] <AMDXP> Seveas: is this correct  sudo chown vegeta -R  jinzora2
[11:28] <burning_bronx> ice knowing windows does not make you special >.>
[11:28] <irvin> AMDXP, yes that's correct
[11:28] <Seveas> AMDXP, probably
[11:28] <Stormx2> ice: Cedega is amoral but its the best thing there is for gaming.
[11:28] <ice> but i like windows
[11:28] <ice> but not free
[11:28] <AMDXP> i dont have to specify rw
[11:28] <indy> Stormx2, where is alien? i dont see it!!! Help me please
[11:28] <void^> ice: piece of advice: use windows for games, save your time
[11:28] <ice> you see free is in my price range
[11:28] <Seveas> void^, apt-get install alien :)
[11:28] <Stormx2> indy: its not in the repos? let me see
[11:28] <irvin> AMDXP, that would be chmod
[11:28] <Stormx2> !info alien
[11:28] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[11:28] <irvin> AMDXP, sudo chmod +rw
[11:28] <Stormx2> yeah its there
[11:28] <Stormx2> ^_^
[11:28] <vir> ice even when most windows ftp clients don't even work to ftp protocol standard?
[11:29] <Stormx2> Im gonna take a bath. Cya later
[11:29] <TigerDuck> Good evening
[11:29] <ice> well im just trying to get the doom collectors to work
[11:29] <ice> nothing that complicated
[11:30] <vir> i can't believe i'm running azureus on only 198mb of ram
[11:30] <burning_bronx> vir, you would run out of ram soon enough
[11:30] <burning_bronx> azureus is a memory hog
[11:30] <AMDXP> i cant get it to work
[11:30] <AMDXP> You don't have permission to access /apache2-default/jinzora2/index.php on this server
[11:30] <burning_bronx> complete remove it and install BitTornado
[11:30] <burning_bronx> .
[11:30] <vir> i know it is burning_bronx  :P
[11:30] <vir> all java is
[11:31] <burning_bronx> then don't use it
[11:31] <burning_bronx> use bittornado
[11:31] <TigerDuck> I wonder if it's better to upgrade hoary to breezy or to freshly install breezy. Any recommendations? .... thanks
[11:31] <vir> i thought i'd try running it with xubuntu
[11:31] <burning_bronx> :O
[11:31] <vir> :P
[11:31] <void^> as long as you've got more than 128m there should be no problem with azureus
[11:31] <burning_bronx> !bittornado
[11:31] <ubotu> burning_bronx: I don't know
[11:31] <AMDXP> do I have to actually start php
[11:31] <burning_bronx> hmm
[11:31] <burning_bronx> !bittorrent
[11:31] <ubotu> well, bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[11:31] <cmatheson> AMDXP: you probably didn't make it excecutable
[11:31] <irvin> AMDXP, sudo chmod a+rw -R
[11:31] <burning_bronx> !azureus
[11:31] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:31] <coNP> vir: install RAM :)
[11:32] <nickrud> TigerDuck, is your home directory on a separate partition?
[11:32] <plagerism> How would I find out about security updates??
[11:32] <vir> coNP: can't temp comp waiting for my new cpu
[11:32] <TigerDuck> nickrud: nope
[11:32] <AMDXP> well i have all christmas break to figure it out thanks for the help though
[11:32] <Astxist> plagerism, you'd enable the repos for them in sources.list
[11:32] <plagerism> I am getting updates from security.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <vir> ice: doom collections that dos by any chance?
[11:33] <plagerism> But I want to know what they are in regards to
[11:33] <burning_bronx> x-mas break is not meant for linux studies
[11:33] <Astxist> plagerism, and the update manager would tell you automagically
[11:33] <burning_bronx> winter break is for drinking and sex
[11:33] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:33] <nickrud> TigerDuck, then you probably want to upgrade.
[11:33] <irvin> plagerism, there's a mailing list on that
[11:33] <nickrud> !tell TigerDuck about breezyupgrade
[11:33] <Astxist> plagerism, hit the description arrow in software updates
[11:33] <irvin> plagerism, ubuntu-security-announce@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <TigerDuck> thanks nickrud
[11:34] <Astxist> plagerism, that gives info on them
[11:34] <PsycOCraxY> someone who would like to help me?
[11:35] <cmatheson> !anybody
[11:35] <concept10> this Vista-gray theme in gnome is _killer_
[11:35] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:35] <Astxist> Craxy, if you pick a nick and stick with it ;p
[11:35] <Craxy> :D
[11:35] <Astxist> concept10, linky?
[11:36] <Fixion> I installed ubuntu, but I can't get the sound to work.  I've gotten the sound to work under straight debian many times, but it just doesn't want to work for me now, how do you get sound to work?
[11:36] <vir> the community should get together and create some stunning themes show everyone what the community really want and maybe publish a .deb for it aswell
[11:37] <plagerism> Thank you Astxist
[11:37] <klaym> I'm considering flashing my BIOS that only accepts 136gb of my 200gb hard disk (Award mainboard, 2000). Is k3b good for making the flash cd?
[11:37] <Seveas> klaym, k3b can burn about anything...
[11:37] <concept10> Astxist, gimme a sec
[11:37] <Astxist> plagerism, np might want to look into what irvin mentioned too if you're into security :)
[11:37] <Astxist> concept10, sure
[11:38] <plagerism> and thank you irvin
[11:38] <irvin> np plagerism
[11:38] <Craxy> i have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Somebody who has an idea of whats wrong?
[11:39] <plagerism> I am getting errors within my /var/lib/dpkg/available file
[11:39] <plagerism> how do I resolve this??
[11:39] <burning_bronx> you should all try shutdown
[11:39] <burning_bronx> it cures all problems
[11:39] <void^> Craxy: your question would be so much better if it included some information about your disks and controllers
[11:39] <cmatheson> plagerism: it would help to paste the actual error you are getting
[11:39] <coder> I have dual monitors setup w/ geforce 6600... only problem is, my monitors are backwards.
[11:39] <coder> Any help?
[11:39] <plagerism> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 74269 package `tclparser':
[11:40] <plagerism> cmatheson
[11:40] <Fixion> is there any way I can find out exactly why sound isn't working?
[11:40] <Mongoose> anyone know what GRUB error 17 is?
[11:40] <cmatheson> plagerism: hmm,, what is the command you're trying to run?
[11:40] <Astxist> coder, open up xorg.conf and change hte server layout
[11:40] <burning_bronx> Astxist, I really need a shutdown
[11:40] <burning_bronx> my brain is overheating
[11:40] <vir> irish monitors?
[11:40] <plagerism> cmatheson, anything to do with apt
[11:40] <Astxist> burning_bronx, heh bit late there?
[11:40] <burning_bronx> I am dehidrated too
[11:40] <MrProper_> coder, what do you mean backwards
[11:40] <cmatheson> plagerism: when/why did it start?
[11:40] <burning_bronx> well it's almost 1 AM
[11:40] <plagerism> cmatheson, the file seems to have gotten corrupted
[11:41] <burning_bronx> and I haven't had much sleep these days
[11:41] <MrProper_> coder, are you using twinview?
[11:41] <coder> MrProper_: the heads are reversed.  and yes
[11:41] <plagerism> cmatheson, my system may have been compromised last night
[11:41] <Seveas> burning_bronx, shall i kick you out to make sure you get some sleep? :)
[11:41] <cmatheson> plagerism: hmm, if it may have been compromised you're definitely going to want to backup/reinstall
[11:41] <MrProper_> coder, 2 seperate cards or dual headed card?
[11:41] <plagerism> cmatheson, I know
[11:41] <plagerism> Okay thank you
[11:41] <coder> dual head.  6600 gt, dual dvi
[11:41] <burning_bronx> Seveas, that would be abusing your rights ;)
[11:42] <concept10> Astxist, check out my desktop: http://elfurl.com/visit.php?id=123p
[11:42] <Seveas> only if you don't ask for it :)
[11:42] <burning_bronx> lol
[11:42] <burning_bronx> do I look like I am asking?
[11:42] <burning_bronx> I will go to sleep soon
[11:42] <MrProper_> coder, put this: Option          "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf" under your "Device" section
[11:42] <cafuego> Yes, you do.
[11:42] <burning_bronx> I won't hold much longer
[11:42] <indy> one question, whats the stable version? breezy?
[11:42] <cafuego> indy: Yes
[11:42] <burning_bronx> yesh indy yesh
[11:42] <cafuego> indy: also known as 5.10
[11:42] <Craxy> void^ : may i pm you?
[11:42] <rinzai-shu> indy: Breezy Badger!!!!
[11:42] <MrProper_> coder, or simply switch the monitor cables around or move the monitors hehe
[11:43] <void^> Craxy: no.
[11:43] <coder> =)
[11:43] <coder> thanks MrProper_
[11:43] <burning_bronx> Breezy stable, Dapper unstable, Groundhog non-existent
[11:44] <ggeller> trappist:  OK.  The other CD-ROM drive worked.  Thanks.
[11:44] <Craxy> okay, anyway the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 ROM
[11:44] <Craxy> *RPM
[11:44] <TokenBad> with breezy did the oss sound stop working?
[11:44] <Astxist> concept10, nice
[11:44] <burning_bronx> pmount /dev/bed
[11:45] <cafuego> Maxtor, aka Seagate? ;-)
[11:45] <screenresolution> can anybody tell me how to enable higher resolution?
[11:45] <Seveas> !tell screenresolution about fixres
[11:45] <screenresolution> max is 640x800
[11:45] <Delgul> *plop*
[11:45] <concept10> Astxist, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32459
[11:45] <sureshot> hello it is me again. when i loaded ubuntu it defaulted to the generic 64 bit amd kernel should i load the k8 64 bit kerneel for better operation
[11:45] <TokenBad> I can't get oss sound to work but alsa and esd work
[11:46] <cmatheson> TokenBad: probably because esd is tying up your sound card
[11:46] <trappist> ggeller: excellent news
[11:46] <indy> ok, thank you very much
[11:46] <Craxy> the motherboard is a IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 1998
[11:46] <TokenBad> cmatheson, I did killall esd
[11:46] <Astxist> concept10, thanks
[11:47] <cmatheson> TokenBad: what are you trying to use OSS sound for ? and what is the error when you do it?
[11:47] <cafuego> sureshot: Depening on what you mean by "better opeation" your best bet might be to use i386 Ubuntu.
[11:47] <TokenBad> I am trying to pick it in multimedia setup..and just says failed to contruct pipeline
[11:48] <Craxy> i have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Somebody who has an idea of whats wrong? the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 RPM, the motherboard is an IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 1998
[11:48] <sureshot> i have a 64 bit abit mother board with a 64 bit simpron 1.8 ghz process.
[11:48] <indy> thaks for all of you, you re my heros
[11:49] <cafuego> sureshot: I have an amd64 too. i386 software is far more mature and tends to work better. (If you just use the machine as desktop, you should consider it)
[11:49] <steve_laptop> ok for you laptop users with wifi wlassisant for ubuntu   - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597441#post597441
[11:49] <burning_bronx> wow an AMD64 Sempron
[11:49] <burning_bronx> real beauty isn't she?
[11:49] <burning_bronx> ;)
[11:49] <vir> whats the best bt client available for linux?
[11:49] <sureshot> ok thanks for the advice. may install that kernel and check it out
[11:49] <burning_bronx> vir, the original bittorrent or bittornado
[11:50] <vir> ok
[11:50] <holycow> burning_bronx, actually they are quite neat, performance is smooth, and you can't really complain that $40 cpus are now 64bit
[11:50] <pozdiy> where is the systemwide .bashrc on Breezy?
[11:50] <sureshot> i am still trying to find info on gambas. it just will not run ... and place you know of. i posted in the forum but that takes time and there is no wiki
[11:50] <burning_bronx> that's what I meant
[11:50] <Seveas> pozdiy, /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:50] <burning_bronx> There was not a bit of irony in my comment
[11:50] <burning_bronx> :)
[11:50] <pozdiy> Seveas, tnx
[11:51] <ossie> can anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???
[11:51] <cmatheson> TokenBad: i'm not sure, i would try running sudo lsof | grep dsp and see if t hat showed up anything
[11:51] <sureshot> ossie have  you tried serching the wiki site for info on that
[11:51] <burning_bronx> what's wrong with semprons?
[11:51] <ggeller> ossie: google site:ubuntulinx.org kernel build howto.
[11:51] <Craxy> so nobody has a clue about whats wrong?
[11:51] <cmatheson> ossie: what do you want to compile a new kernel for?
[11:51] <evermuse_> vir if you have a metric ass load of ram azureus is very nice for seeding several files at once
[11:52] <Seveas> metric ass load is indeed the minimum requirement...
[11:52] <holycow> burning_bronx, *high five* :)
[11:52] <SweetestSavage> Excuse me, how do I download the decoders/codecs for Totem Movie Player?
[11:52] <zoka> people help
[11:52] <ossie> I have gone thorugh that but i have got a make error , i want advice on it
[11:52] <zoka> zlib
[11:52] <Seveas> SweetestSavage, for which format?
[11:52] <zoka> I am getting error it seems my dist do not have standard lib zlib
[11:52] <cafuego> vir: prosciutto with pear is nice
[11:52] <Seveas> zoka, paste the error at the pastebin
[11:52] <SweetestSavage> Seveas - Movie formats.. mpeg/avi, the general ones
[11:52] <holycow> burning_bronx, we are building like $300 boxes for the office these days and the performance of these things is phenomenal
[11:53] <cafuego> zoka: It does. Are you compiling stuff without knowing how to?
[11:53] <ossie> make[2] : *** [fs/inode.o]  Error 1
[11:53] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[11:53] <burning_bronx> wicked
[11:53] <Craxy> Seveas do you know what is wrong?
[11:53] <ossie> im getting this
[11:53] <Seveas> SweetestSavage, gstreamer0.8-* packages or w32codecs with totem-xine
[11:53] <ossie> when making the kernel
[11:53] <burning_bronx> I want a phenomenal 300$ box
[11:53] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:53] <Seveas> burning_bronx, for the last time: stop being off-topic
[11:53] <Seveas> this is a support channel
[11:53] <SweetestSavage> Seveas, thank you
[11:53] <vir> will someone be able to give me a hand with my webcam in a sec please?
[11:53] <burning_bronx> and I support people whenever I can
[11:53] <TigerDuck> wow, just 1029 packages *leech*
[11:53] <burning_bronx> *sigh*
[11:54] <ossie> im trying to add ITE raid driver support
[11:54] <ossie> im following a tutorail
[11:54] <nuxGuru> is there a 'guru' here willing to meet me on AIM?
[11:54] <cafuego> ossie: Don't.
[11:54] <ossie> all goes wel upto the last point
[11:54] <cafuego> ossie: Use the controller in IDE mode.
[11:54] <zoka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6034
[11:54] <Kyral> !pastebin
[11:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:54] <Seveas> ossie, look at kernel compile howtos on the wiki
[11:54] <ossie> how do i use it in IDE mode please :)
[11:54] <G> Hmmm where can i find want version of what was in a certain ubuntu release
[11:54] <G> (i.e like packages.debian.org)
[11:54] <cafuego> zoka: Yes, you undoubtedly need the libz1g-dev package
[11:55] <zoka> how to get it
[11:55] <ossie> i am happy if i had ide mode, but i thought i had to install the driver
[11:55] <Craxy> Seveas: i have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Do you have an idea of whats wrong? the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 RPM, the motherboard is an IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 1998.
[11:55] <cafuego> Why are you compiling stuff?
[11:55] <Seveas> zoka, apt-get install libzlib-ruby
[11:55] <Astxist> does anyone know how to set a system wide variable?
[11:55] <ossie> cos i want to add support for my ide raid card
[11:55] <zoka> thanks
[11:56] <ossie> it shows under the device databse
[11:56] <psycose> G http://packages.ubuntu.com/  isn't it funny ?
[11:56] <Astxist> and have it for each boot no matter the user
[11:56] <ossie> sorry device manager
[11:56] <ossie> but the drives havent appeared
[11:56] <cafuego> ossie: Doesn't it just get picked up my the normal ide driver?
[11:56] <Seveas> ossie, and why do you think you need to recompile for that?
[11:56] <Seveas> can't you simply modprobe the driver....
[11:56] <ossie> cos the driver is in source format
[11:56] <Seveas> ah right
[11:56] <Aven> I allowed port 22 on my firewall, is there anything else I need to allow to allow ssh?
[11:56] <G> psycose, I didn't expect that, but oh well....
[11:56] <Seveas> you have sources for the driver
[11:56] <ossie> i wanted to include the driver in the kernel, i thought that was the only way
[11:56] <cafuego> ossie: The RAID one yes.
[11:56] <void^> very recent kernels come with the ite8212 driver
[11:56] <Seveas> then you don't need to compile the kernel
[11:57] <cafuego> ossie: That would be the proprietary one, the one you need to avoid.
[11:57] <ossie> i have the latest version
[11:57] <Seveas> just install the kernel headers and compile the module
[11:57] <Seveas> (which is not trivial, google for a good howto)
[11:57] <nuxGuru> is my internal hardware modem located at /dev/ttyS3  ?
[11:57] <cmatheson> ossie: just install the kernel-headers for whatever kernel your using and go from there
[11:57] <pinkisntwell> I tried to launch xscreensaver from the terminal and it would just sit there without giving me back the command prompt, what gives?
[11:57] <ossie> how do i compile the kernel headers???
[11:57] <cmatheson> ossie: they're headers... you don't compile them
[11:57] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: very likely so.
[11:57] <crimsun_> ossie: you mean install them? apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:57] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: try it and see :-)
[11:57] <Craxy> gaah i wont get any help from you, will I?
[11:58] <burning_bronx> this is too much for me
[11:58] <nuxGuru> dont know how tto test it
[11:58] <zoka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6037
[11:58] <burning_bronx> night yall
[11:58] <nuxGuru> have not figured out how to access it
[11:58] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: install minicom and have a go at it
[11:58] <ossie> crimsun, cheers, so if i get the headers i can add support for my raid card, im a bit lost are headers compiled kernel modules???
[11:58] <ossie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597303
[11:58] <void^> Craxy: hm, you'd have to pastebin output of fdisk -l and dmesg.. but at any rate i don't know anything ubuntu install/setup
[11:59] <nuxGuru> is minicom in the Cd release?
[11:59] <ossie> im following this tutorial
[11:59] <void^> +about
[11:59] <Seveas> ossie, kernel headers are what you need to compile kernel modules