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os2macok how do I disable the cdrom drive in apt?12:03
crimsun_Lacerta: ...you "think"? This isn't a question you can be unsure about. Just pick one.12:03
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Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: type `sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list` and comment out the 2 lines that have [cdrom blah blah]  in them (probably the top 2)12:03
djk_os2mac: just delete the line regarding the cddrive in your sources.list12:03
Kamping_Kaisera comment is a #12:03
djk_or that..12:04
Lacertacrimsun_: i'm absolutely sure that's the one, i was lying about thinking. i never think12:04
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Lacertacrimsun_:  i just assumed it would've been AD1980 or something12:04
os2macgotcha... I used vi...12:05
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crimsun_Lacerta: so by default you want to use the onboard, not the card you installed, correct?12:05
os2macwhat about the server... can I change to a different one rather than the US?12:05
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: yes, of course12:05
Kamping_Kaiserunfortunately nano wont search and replace :(12:06
os2macwhat are the others?12:06
os2macuk?12:06
Kamping_KaiserGB12:06
Kamping_KaiserGB, au, ca12:06
Lacertacrimsun_: the PCI card is ancient and i use it just for the midi port12:06
os2macrgr stand by12:06
Kamping_Kaisertry ca, it's canada12:06
crimsun_Lacerta: in a Konsole, echo "options snd-ens1371 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:07
Lacertacrimsun_:  done12:07
ls3anyone knows, how could i rename a file in unicode locale as non-unicode?12:08
crimsun_Lacerta: now, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload12:08
Lacertacrimsun_:  done12:08
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crimsun_Lacerta: you'll probably need to log out of and back into KDE now.12:08
Lacertacrimsun_: k, i'll be back in a bit12:09
os2macKamping_Kaiser... same errors12:09
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: it shoudl be the same errors, minus the "http://Kubuntu.pastebin.com/475828...etc" lines12:10
Kamping_Kaisercan you pastebin your new set of errors though?12:10
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os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47583712:11
os2macthat is my sources.list12:11
Kamping_Kaiserta12:12
LacertaIIcrimsun_: thanks, it works12:12
crimsun_LacertaII: np.12:12
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os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47584012:13
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os2macMrMazda... I have been there....12:13
os2macchatzilla?12:13
MrMazdayes, and you have a face set up for CZ12:13
os2macthat would be me.12:13
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: you have spaces in front of all your lines, that will break apt IIRC12:13
LacertaIIwhy does KDE set the resolution to 1600 * 1200 even if i logout with 1280 * 960?12:13
MrMazdaI think by design it always starts with whatever is set first in xorg.conf12:14
LacertaIIthat's silly12:14
Kamping_Kaiserthen change the config12:15
MrMazdarearrange your modes line so the one you want is first listed12:15
os2macKamping_Kaiser12:15
os2maccorrected here are the errors.12:15
os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47584412:16
LacertaIIwhat's the best program to play music with?12:17
crimsun_"best" is subjective12:17
LacertaIIthat doesn't matter12:17
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: looking12:17
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crimsun_I prefer Rhythmbox, but Amarok, beep-media-player, quod libet, are all nice.12:17
MrMazdacd player will play cds12:17
MrMazdaamarok works for mp3s12:18
slow-motionn812:18
os2macKamping_Kaiser: waiting.....12:18
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: can you type `cd /etc/apt` then go `sudo mv sources.list sources.list.old`12:19
Kamping_Kaiserthen type `sudo nano sources.list`12:19
os2macdone.12:20
Kamping_Kaiserso you have a blank file?12:21
os2macyes12:21
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Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: try those 3 lines, and see if they work. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/47585112:22
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os2macworked.12:24
Kamping_Kaisercool. now to try and add in those custom lines you had12:24
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os2macbut adept updater still segserv faults.12:25
Kamping_Kaisercan you apt-get update?12:25
os2maccustom lines?12:25
os2macyes that worked.12:25
Kamping_Kaiser`deb http://Kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main` <- that one (if you still need it)12:25
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: try running `sudo apt-get --reinstall install adept`12:26
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Kamping_Kaiserwb12:27
os2macstill segserv error 1112:28
Kamping_Kaiserdamn.12:28
os2machow about uninstall reinstall?12:28
os2machow would I do that from apt?12:28
Kamping_Kaiserso apt- works and adept doesnt?12:28
os2macthat is correct12:28
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os2macfor the record... adept updater opens... it just segserv's on fetch updates.12:30
Kamping_Kaisercan you install stuff?12:30
os2maclemme try12:30
_nestai just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???12:30
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mzelemanyone know the command to run x11 configuration program?12:31
treakathhey all12:31
os2macKamping_Kaiser: yes.. I can install from Adept.....12:31
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Kamping_Kaisermzelem: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`12:32
mzelemk, thanks12:32
treakathhey robdotgeek12:32
rjm101does anyone know how to get gnomemeeting to see the x-eye camera, device manager sees it but it si not loaded12:33
treakathhey snake12:34
_nestacan anyone help please this has me really freaked out12:34
_nestai just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???12:34
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=adept&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=adept&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=adept&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=adept12:35
Kamping_Kaiserbugzilla search for `adept`12:35
sampannow THAT is a url12:36
Kamping_Kaiserlol. they don't make them like they used to ;)12:36
Kamping_Kaiserbloatware!12:36
sampanlol12:36
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os2macKamping_Kaiser... so it is a problem with the app.... crashing on getting updates.12:37
Snake__Hey guys, I got somethign thats really bothering me12:37
=== xianze wishes sampan good luck :)
os2macI can user apt-get update then use adept to install updates.12:38
os2macuntil it gets fixed.12:38
Kamping_Kaiseryep. gl :)12:38
os2macgl?12:38
os2macgood luck?12:38
Snake__How come when I install programs off of adepts, they never show up in my menu12:38
Snake__adept*12:38
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Snake__I just downloaded a program called ace-of-pengiuns (a bunch of card games) and I have no idea how to access it.12:39
Snake__Because its not in my "games" section12:39
Snake__And this isn't my first program that did this to me12:39
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Snake__Come on guys :(12:41
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_nestahey12:42
_nestawhat was the program name12:42
Snake__Help :(12:42
sampansnake__  to get a list of files for that package you could do: dpkg -L <packagename>12:42
sampanif you look through the list, you should be able to find the exectuable name12:43
sampanthen add it to kmenu12:43
LacertaIIdo i have to install some mp3 decoder before i can actually play them?12:43
_nestadpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin12:43
_nestayah12:43
Snake__ubotu: l LacertaII about mp312:43
ubotuSnake__: I don't know, could you explain it?12:43
_nestasampan can you help me?12:43
Snake__....12:43
Snake__ubotu: tell LacertaII about mp312:44
_nestai just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???12:44
Snake__There ya go LacertaII12:44
Snake__Haha thanks a ton guys12:44
sampan_nesta  i have no idea about how to change all file associations like that ... best i could suggest would be to open konqueror --- settings --> configure konqueror --> file associations and maybe change each type manually12:44
LacertaIISnake__:  i thought that was a chell command :)12:44
sampan_nesta, but i have no idea if that would fix your problem or not12:45
xianzewhat is the local time at your place(s) ? :)12:45
Snake__LacertaII: or you can do it the easy way12:45
Snake__LacertaII: just download beep-media-player or XMMS, they come with the codecs12:45
XamDMxianze: 01:4512:45
LacertaIISnake__: k12:46
Snake__:)12:46
xianze=) here is the time 00:46 o_O are you people from all over the world? =) im from sweden and yes we have small tiny polarbears all over the place ;)12:46
Kamping_Kaiserhi xianze, want a kangaroo?12:47
Snake__Is there anyway I could hot key opening the terminal in xfce??12:47
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xianzeok, i'll give you one polarbeer if you give me one kangaroo?12:47
polly_morfCan anygody tell me why kaffeine is so buggy? I have switched to the Xine engine, but it still quits almost instalntly12:47
Kamping_Kaiserxianze: ok. :) btw. it's 10:19 here :)12:48
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Polly_Morfanybody else that has the prblem that kdevelop hangs when openinga project?12:59
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darylIs there a packages CD that I can get from anywhere?01:01
darylI want to install Kubuntu on a Laptop that has no ethernet port01:01
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Kamping_Kaisernot sure. i don't think so01:05
daryl:-(01:05
Kamping_Kaiseri think the dvd's have all of main (if that helps)01:05
darylI thought the DVD had the live CD and the install CD on.01:05
darylIn which case the DVD has all that the CD has.01:06
darylWhich doesn't include kdegames01:06
darylheh01:06
seth_k|lappythe DVD has all of main, indeed01:06
Kamping_Kaiserit does incude live+install, but i think it also has extra packages01:06
Kamping_Kaiserthanks seth_k|lappy01:06
darylAlthough, the laptop only has a CD drive.01:06
xianzegood night folks!01:07
Kamping_Kaisernight01:07
Kamping_Kaiserdaryl: :(01:07
darylquite01:07
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darylYeah, may have to get me one of those.01:08
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taojahanyone here?01:10
taojahi need help big time01:10
xtacocorexdaryl: what programs do you need?01:10
darylgames would do nicely01:11
daryldunno about any others yet01:11
xtacocorexdaryl: i guess i could try making a cd repository and creating an iso01:11
seth_k|lappyKamping_Kaiser, why getting GPG keys?01:12
xtacocorexdaryl: i have no clue how successful it'l be01:12
darylhow I go about doing that?01:12
seth_k|lappys/why/why\ are\ you/01:12
xtacocorexdaryl: i'm looking for the wiki, i'll send you the url when i find it01:12
Kamping_Kaiserseth_k|lappy: so enigmail stops telling me i don't have them ;)01:12
darylthanks.01:12
seth_k|lappyKamping_Kaiser, ah :P01:12
Kamping_Kaiser;)01:12
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Kamping_Kaiserlol01:14
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Kamping_Kaiserlike how to use it ;)01:15
seth_k|lappyhaha01:15
xtacocorexdaryl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto01:15
darylmerci01:16
xtacocorextaojah: what seems to be your problem01:16
seth_k|lappyKamping_Kaiser, KGpg is good and has a nice interface; I recommend it if you're on KDE01:16
seth_k|lappyKamping_Kaiser, Seahorse for Gnome01:16
Kamping_KaiserI'll check it out, thanks01:16
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Kamping_Kaiseris it in apt?01:17
seth_k|lappyKamping_Kaiser, indeed it is. They both are01:18
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seth_k|lappy!info kgpg01:19
ubotukgpg: (GnuPG frontend for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 425 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB01:19
darylxtacocorex: that's assuming that I have another machine :s01:19
darylyou running dapper flight 2?01:19
xtacocorexdaryl: no, breezy01:19
Kamping_Kaiser!info seahorse01:19
ubotuseahorse: (A Gnome front end for GnuPG), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 860 kB, Installed size: 3064 kB01:19
daryloh well01:20
xtacocorexdaryl: yeah, if i ran dapper f2, i'd get stuff for you01:20
darylthe games be .deb01:20
daryli can just download and install with dpkg -i blah.deb yah?01:20
xtacocorexdaryl: i would believeso01:21
darylseeing as they're all here http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/pool-breezy/kdegames/01:21
xtacocorexdaryl: i think thats what apt-get does in the end, uses dpkg01:21
darylyeah01:21
seth_k|lappyindeed01:21
seth_k|lappybut you won't be able to use those .debs unless you're running KDE 3.501:21
seth_k|lappyas their dependencies require it01:21
darylam :)01:22
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darylassuming that comes with the latest dapper cd01:22
seth_k|lappyah, indeed01:22
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djk_how do i get all files from a site with wget?01:24
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darylwget -R01:25
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Kamping_Kaiserwget -a website.com01:25
daryloh01:25
daryl:)01:25
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:25
MrMazdaso which is is :-D01:25
Kamping_Kaiser-R recursive -a archive (iirc)01:25
F_Eboth should be used with causion01:26
djk_why01:27
Kamping_Kaiserlots of :S *downloaded 9.5 gig of stuff before realising he had started downloading recursively*01:27
darylyou could end up downloading the internet >_<01:27
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F_Ebecause of traffic01:27
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saikimmorning!01:30
sharketmorning ?01:30
sharketlol01:30
sharket:)01:30
sharkethi saikim !!01:30
Kamping_Kaiserhi saikim01:31
saikimhaha sharket01:31
Kamping_Kaiserit's morning :)01:31
saikimhere is 8:30am01:31
djk_it's -r btw.. -R rejects..01:31
saikim:P01:31
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sharket01:31 here01:31
sharket:))01:31
saikimi am a newbie here!01:31
Kamping_Kaiser11:02 am :)01:31
saikimand newbie to IRC01:31
Kamping_Kaiserhi sharket01:31
sharkethello Kamping_Kaiser01:31
sharketi'm newbie in life01:31
sharket:D01:31
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:32
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's up saikim:)01:32
saikimnewbie in kubuntu too...01:32
saikimAs a newbie i had face some common problem.01:32
saikimbut still can't find the solution from the forum and website too..01:33
xtacocorexwhats the command to list all installed packages on your system01:33
saikimwhy my kubuntu sometime can mount my usb mass storage and sometime not?01:34
saikimi had apt-get usbmount.01:34
sharketwell don't know01:34
saikimarr?01:34
sharketsometimes happens to me too01:34
saikimi also can't mount manually myself01:34
saikimfor instance mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb01:35
saikimmount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist01:35
saikimmount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist01:35
saikimthen shot me this message01:36
xtacocorexsaikim, sharket: try /dev/sdb1, i had that problem last night01:36
saikimdunno why!01:36
Pupenodoes anybody know the name of the channel about audio on linux ?01:36
Kamping_Kaiserxtacocorex: dpkg --get-selections01:36
xtacocorexKamping_Kaiser: thanks01:36
saikimxtacocorex, same result.01:36
Kamping_Kaiserit's long ;)01:36
Kamping_Kaiserxtacocorex: pipe it throgh less or grep01:36
xtacocorexKamping_Kaiser: definately, i'm going to try this repository cd, so i figured i'd back up all the installed packages i have01:37
Kamping_Kaiserah ok01:37
saikimstill can't fix.01:37
saikimbeside that i got a problem on both scim and fcitx01:38
Kamping_Kaisersaikim: Kubuntu has had issues with usb stuff. *shrug*01:38
saikimKamping, sure?01:38
Kamping_Kaiservery01:38
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saikimKamping, then?01:38
sampansaikim, there are significant issues with scim in breezy too01:39
sampanunresolved issues, i should add01:39
saikimsampan, scim too... feel disappoint with kubuntu...01:39
sampansaikim  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/256501:40
sampanyeah on many chinese linux forums the chinese users are saying: "stick with hoary" :X01:40
saikimSAMPAN, OIC01:40
sampanhopefully dapper will have scim done properly01:41
sharket:))01:41
crimsun_we've been working very hard to fix it01:41
saikimsampan, then i try fcitx. but fcitx same to me :P01:41
crimsun_ming hua has done most of the heavy lifting for ubuntu dapper01:41
saikimgentoo, also have some bugx with kde.01:41
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saikimcan't emerge kde last week.01:41
xtacocorexKamping_Kaiser: thanks again01:42
Kamping_Kaisernp01:42
Kamping_Kaisergl01:42
sampancrimsun_  good to know.  i haven't seen much change on the bug page, so i was wondering what was happening01:42
saikimcrimsun, ya! i had come here few time but still can't meet him.01:42
crimsun_sampan: heh, I just uploaded 3 scim packages01:42
jrjxI'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 5.10 system.  Yesterday, sometime during the day while I wasn't looking at it, my system went wonky such that the hard disk drive activity light went constant on and I couldn't get the system to respond, display anything from the auto screen blanking, etc.  As if something was using ~ 100% CPU and wasn't giving it up.  So, I did as I would for a malfunctioning Win NT-ish system and power cycled w/o cleanly shutting down.01:42
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jrjxSubsequent to the reboot ... now, my bar at the bottom of the screen (I think it's called "kicker") is malfunctioning, not showing me a little button for each separate window I open up, as it was showing to me previously.  I've looked at the online config options and see nothing obviously wrong.01:43
sampancrimsun_  yay!  :)  when they are all in backports and functioning that's my FIRST priority to apt-get :)  the bugged version locked up my kubuntu so bad i couldn't even kill X nor change to a text-console login -- just hung hard -- had to literally power-down by holding in the power button01:44
sampanwas very nasty :X01:44
jrjxWhat do I need to look at?01:44
saikimexit01:49
taojahhello01:49
saikimquite01:49
taojahanyone here01:49
robotgeektaojah: hey01:50
taojahwhen i press ctrl alt f2 it takes me to a bash shell right? and i have to login..so when im done and i hit exit it says logged out and then the login part comes back up..do i just leave that bash shell 'open' and hit ctrl alt f7 to return to kde or is the bash shell supposed to close with the exit01:51
robotgeektaojah: no, it's okay01:51
taojahok01:51
taojahis that bash shell different than the terminal konsole on kde ?01:52
robotgeektaojah: not very01:52
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sharketey robotgeek !01:53
sharketi was looking 4 yoy01:53
sharket*you01:53
sharketfor more than 2 days01:54
sharkethehe01:54
robotgeeksharket: really? why?01:54
sharketyes01:54
DaSkreechcan I set who owns mounts in /etc/fstab?01:54
sharketsomebody told me u have a ppc too01:54
sharketor something like01:54
jrjxTao: I think you're seeing, like, different virtual consoles.  One, the GUI console, is the F7, the other one is a "spare" one at the F2.  It's as if two different people were logged in using the same keyboard/monitor/mouse simultaneously, and you switched between which login is active with the Ctrl-Alt-F# keystroke.01:54
robotgeeksharket: yes01:54
sharketbecause i tried ur .deb01:54
sharketjava, but i have same error01:54
robotgeeksharket: the java one?01:55
sharketyes01:55
sharketand i can't fix it01:55
sharketdon't know where is the matter01:55
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sharketi'm trying to setting up all tools :)01:55
robotgeeksharket: hmm, okay..do this, one sec.01:55
sharket3D and that stuff01:55
sharketand another thing, can i see .rm with ppc ?01:55
robotgeeksharket: you can try the real player experimental stuff, but i never get any video01:56
sharketbecause i use to see www.lando.co.uk videos01:57
sharketany divx ?01:57
sharketor not those propietaries files01:57
robotgeeksharket: if it uses any special codecs, probably not01:57
sharketwell not so good01:58
sharket:(01:58
robotgeeksharket: okay, i know how to fix this, give me a minute. i have to ssh into my home computer01:59
sharketyes01:59
sharketthis is my error01:59
sharketbash: /opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java: No existe el fichero o el directorio01:59
robotgeeksharket: hmm, so you installed from the wiki, okay.02:00
sharketi did02:00
robotgeeksharket: you can also get it from plf now02:00
sharketplf ?02:00
robotgeeksharket: there's a nice .deb file02:00
sharketgive me the like please02:01
sharketagain02:01
sharketbut i have it installated, i guess..02:01
robotgeeksharket: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , add the repository02:01
sharket      1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.002:02
sharket +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java02:02
sharket      3        /usr/bin/java-sablevm02:02
sharket      4        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-ibm/jre/bin/java02:02
sharket*     5        /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/bin/java02:02
sharketand why it doesn't work ?02:02
robotgeeksharket: hmm, okay. you have it installed then02:02
robotgeeksharket: sudo update-alternatives --config java02:03
sharketyes02:03
sharketi did last day from ur .deb02:03
robotgeekhmm, so i figure you are going to use the sdk02:03
robotgeekokay, remove the alias from your .bashrc02:04
robotgeekgedit ~/.bashrc , and remove alias java = whatever02:04
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callieanyone her managed to get sim city 3000 running under kubuntu?02:05
sharketok02:05
sharketthen i don't' need add plf repositories ?02:05
sharketbut is good to have them02:06
sharketno ?02:06
robotgeeksharket: then, open another terminal and type 'java'. it should crib about libjvm not found02:06
robotgeeksharket: no, you don't need them. this was the only package there for for ppc02:06
callieor alternatly can someone tell me what command i need to use to pipe the output of one command to be written to a text file02:06
sharketok02:06
calliei need it to be written and not just displayed in a viewer02:06
calliehi robotgeek02:07
robotgeekcallie: you can use | tee02:07
sharketi did it robotgeek02:07
robotgeeksharket: what does 'java' output?02:07
callierobotgeek: <command> | tee <nameof.file>  yeah?02:08
sharketsharket@whitebox:~$ java02:08
robotgeekcallie: use command blah blah | tee file02:08
sharketbash: java: command not found02:08
calliecool02:08
robotgeeksharket: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/bin/java ?02:08
robotgeeksharket: type the entire path?02:08
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sharketum02:10
sharketthis works then02:10
sharketwell, try to do something02:10
sharkethehehe02:10
robotgeeksharket: maybe you can alias this in your .bashrc02:10
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sharketyes02:11
calliehmmm, well that didn't up any info02:11
calliebut thanks robotgeek02:11
robotgeeksharket: alternatively, and better solution is export PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/jre/bin:"${PATH}"02:11
robotgeekcallie: that did not work?02:12
robotgeekcallie: what are you trying to output?02:12
sharketdid it02:12
mrmarcelgn802:13
callieit worked but i think im barking up the wrong tree here robotgeek02:13
robotgeekcallie: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html02:13
callieclickity click02:13
robotgeeksharket: hmm, my next release (not sure when) will fix the issue, hopefully. damn IBM java ppl02:14
fdelacruzgud mornign guys02:14
robotgeekevening fdelacruz02:14
fdelacruzIm sorry robotgeek, its morning here in the philippines,02:14
robotgeekfdelacruz: it's alrite, you don't need to be sorry :)02:15
calliebasically robotgeek im trying to get sim city to run, but with not much luck, so i want to see what the application is doing and weather its encountering some kind of error, but it locks up x so im not sure how to achieve this02:15
fdelacruzadvance merry xmass to all,02:15
callieand to you fdelacruz02:15
robotgeeksharket: i'll make edits to the JavaPPC page to reflect this, thanks02:15
fdelacruzguys any recommendation to optimize my kubuntu performance! Im using HP Brio ba300 pIII with 256 mb memory02:17
sharketthanks you not mee robotgeek02:17
callieinstall more ram ;)02:17
sharket:)02:17
fdelacruzaside from installing more ram, any tweaks?02:17
sharketi readed in one wiki doing that alias i'll fix it02:18
sharketbut i didn't02:18
sharkethehe02:18
robotgeeksharket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC02:18
sharketthat is because i was exausted02:18
robotgeekare you talking about that page?02:18
sharketyes02:18
sharkethis can be avoided by adding the full path to java in your .bashrc02:18
sharketthis is a lie !02:18
sharkethehe02:18
sharket:)02:18
sharketi tried and nothing, anyway02:19
sharket:))02:19
sharketwhat about 3D aceleration  ?02:19
robotgeeksharket: with the old method, yes. that works. not with the .deb02:19
robotgeekfdelacruz: turn off all flash effects02:20
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robotgeekokay, goin home now. later folks02:21
sharketwhich old methods ?02:21
fdelacruzk robot geek thanks I will try i02:21
sharketsetting all up by hand u mean ?02:21
robotgeeksharket: yes, download from ibm site etc02:22
sharketdownload from ibm what ?02:23
robotgeeksharket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC . instructions for installation for 1.5 :)02:23
robotgeeksharket: i will update that, i guess later tonite02:23
sharketno no02:24
sharketi mean 3D02:24
sharketnot java02:24
sharketi have have right, now02:24
robotgeeksharket: hmm, okay. sorry, i missed a line02:24
robotgeeksharket: what machine do you have?02:25
sharketibook, G402:25
calliebrb02:25
sharketati 32 radeon i guess02:26
robotgeeksharket: which year. ibooks g4 go a long way :)02:26
robotgeeksharket: i need to go now, try "glxinfo | less" i guess02:27
robotgeeksharket: later02:27
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sharket800mhz02:29
nekostaranyone experienced with wine here?02:30
nekostarhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs <<<--02:30
nekostarwas following that guide to put in and its broken at the dcom98 bit02:31
nekostarso i got the dcom98 and tried wine DCOM98 but i get a new error about a library i dont have02:31
sharketrobotgeek_away: http://pastebin.com/47599802:32
djk_isn't dcom98 installed via winesetup?02:32
nekostarits supposed to be yeah but that part is broken...02:32
nekostarmicrosoft changed the dl link02:32
nekostarthus i had to install it manually02:33
nekostarbut that doesnt work02:33
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naliothnekostar: if the wiki won't help you, google will. cedega from cvs is not an ubuntu only thing02:42
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illogic-alhi! i've got a dapper problem.02:45
illogic-alI installed the dapper drake kubuntu iso and apart from not recodgnizing my network card02:45
illogic-alall seemed well, until i tried to reboot into kubuntu02:45
psykeillogic-al: try ifup eth002:46
illogic-ali get to the grub boot screen but then it sticks at the boot screen02:46
nekostarnalioth, im trying to just get the first bit working atm...02:46
nekostarthe wine bit02:46
illogic-also I'm just staring a white letters on a black screen with the words "savedefault" and "boot"02:47
illogic-alnot much fun.02:47
psykeillogic-al: try rebooting and selecting the recovery mode instead02:49
illogic-aldid. still doesn't work02:49
psykewhen I dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper, the kernel panicked on boot, maybe it's the same for you..02:50
illogic-alwhat is the magical "recovery mode" supposed to do anyway 'cause it's kernel options don't seem much different from the defualt.02:50
psykeI installed cleanly via the flight 2 cd and it worked fine02:50
psykerecovery mode shows more boot messages and doesn't start the X server by default, I think02:50
illogic-althis was a clean install.02:50
psykedoes breezy work on your system? maybe your hardware is causing a conflict with dapper's kernel02:51
illogic-alpsyke so basically the only change is removing the kernel option "quiet"02:51
illogic-alpsyke, hardware could be causing a conflict but i'll never know till i get on OS on their will I?02:51
psykeillogic-al: on my system it doesn't start X, so it's more than that02:52
illogic-aland the installer kernel did boot, so if anything it's a prob with the kernel installed02:52
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psykethe installer kernel should be pretty much the same as what was installed...02:52
illogic-alpsyke, thing's like loading or rather not loading the initrd would be good to add to a "recovery" kernel.02:53
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illogic-alif you happen to be a developer :-)02:53
illogic-alpsyke, "pretty much" seems to be the difference between working and not working.02:54
psykeI'm not a dev, just a user02:54
illogic-alis their anyway to use the kernel included with the install CD?02:54
illogic-alpsyke, do you know where I would file a bug report?02:55
illogic-alhah! found the kernel. and initrd used at install.02:56
illogic-alanyone know how i can copy these to disk in rescue mode?02:57
Snake__Is there anyway to set a hotkey to open terminal in xfce?03:01
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illogic-alguess not.03:03
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admrlalrighty im having amazing problems with mimetypes03:04
admrlany time i open a native kde app i get a mimetype error03:04
admrlit is03:04
admrlit says "could not find mime type application/octet-stream03:05
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admrlanyone had that problem03:05
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admrli fixed it03:08
Snake__What was it admrl ?03:08
admrlwhere can i report bugs03:08
Snake__!bugs03:08
Snake__Damn it ubotu03:09
admrlwell i changed a mimetype icon03:09
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admrlfor .smc03:09
Snake__admrl: you can go to kubuntu.org and report bugs03:09
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admrlthey are supernintendo roms that you can play with zsnes or something of the sort03:10
admrland i changed the mimetype to something that didnt come in the icon theme03:10
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admrland whenever i opened a native kde app i would get a sorry message03:10
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admrlSnake__: would i need to find out if it is a problem with kde or kubuntu first..?03:11
_hilz_Hi people...03:11
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Snake__Mmmmm ya03:11
_hilz_I just installed Kubuntu.. can anyone tell me how to install a vnc server?03:11
_hilz_tightvnc if possible03:12
admrlsudo apt-get install tightvnc..?03:12
apokryphos!vnc03:12
ubotu[vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html03:12
admrlid assume it would fall into the university repo03:12
admrl_hilz_ : have you ever used linux before03:12
admrlor a debian based linux distro..?03:12
_hilz_admri: very breifly03:12
_hilz_admri: i am using it now! :)03:13
admrlhaha03:13
admrlwell learn synaptic03:13
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admrlits all you need for installing packages03:14
apokryphosadmrl: Adept; this is #kubuntu ;-)03:14
admrllater you might need to learn to compile from source but i havnt had to do it much03:14
admrlsorry i dont use Adept03:14
admrli dont like it03:14
admrlbut i have a phone call and must get going03:14
_hilz_I found Adept.. but not synaptic. is there synaptic in kubuntu ?03:15
apokryphos_hilz_: adept is the default kubuntu package manager; synaptic is the default ubuntu one03:15
apokryphostry them both out and stick with the one you like03:15
vblantonAnyone know why I can view my apache2.0 webserver on any computer in the house but no one outside the house (past the router/firewall) can see my website? I have enabled port forwarding of PORT 80 on my router/firewall03:15
apokryphosand if you get bored enough, try the others that are out there too. Whatever floats your boat.03:15
nalioth_hilz_: you can install it and use it03:16
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_hilz_install it using Adept?! thats twisted!03:16
apokryphos=)03:16
_hilz_just kidding! i'll try it now03:17
nalioth_hilz_: you can use konsole + apt-get03:17
_hilz_so what would the command be ? apt-get synaptic ?03:19
apokryphos_hilz_: sudo apt-get install synaptic03:19
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_hilz_daaamn! that was easy!03:20
cmomanvblanton: do you have a domain name registered03:21
apokryphos_hilz_: apt is my preferred method 8)03:21
_hilz_sudo apt-get install tightvnc ... it says package not found...03:21
_hilz_is there a vnc server package that anyone can recommend?03:22
_hilz_with a java interface...like tightvnc ?03:22
vblantoncmoman: no03:23
vblantoncmoman: errr yes03:23
vblantoncmoman: but not for my computer03:23
vblantoncmoman: i don't need one though03:23
cmomanvblanton: so you're sure people can connect to your machine from outside your house03:24
vblantoncmoman: i have port forwarding enabled for port 80...03:25
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vblantoncmoman: but people can't connect03:25
cmomanso you have a static ip or using a dynamic dns service03:26
djk__hilz_: tightvncserver is in universe..03:26
_hilz_and what is universe ?03:27
apokryphos!tell _hilz_ about repositories03:27
_hilz_why not?03:27
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vblantoncmoman: dynamic dhcp03:28
vblantoncmoman: want to test the site?03:28
vblantonhttp://67.54.220.192:4665/03:28
vblantonI changed the port to 4665 to see if that helped but nope :(03:29
_markDoes anyone know / where  I can get a list of respo's?03:29
djk_!easysource03:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:29
djk_perhaps there..03:29
vblantonotherwise search the ubuntu wiki for repositories and you should find a number of pages on them03:30
vblanton!repositories03:30
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource03:30
cmomanvblanton: yeah I tried connecting, no joy here. Have you configured the ports that Apache listens on03:30
luluwhat options do I need to change to from defaults in fstab for vfat partition so non-root users can write to it?03:30
vblantoncmoman: I enabled all ports at one time and still no go03:30
cmomanvitual hosting?03:31
cmomanvirtual hosting03:31
vblantoncmoman: yes. the ports are being forwarded appropriately. that is why I can see my own site. and so can my mom downstairs03:31
djk_lulu: user,fmask=0111,dmask=000003:31
luludjk_: thx :)03:32
djk_you're welcome03:32
cmomanvblanton: pretty new to configuring webservers myself and generally use Kguarddog and Kguidedog for configuring firewalls etc03:32
_hilz_ok now i know there are four repositoreis... how do i see the packages that are in "universe" in synaptic ?03:33
_hilz_is it possible at all?03:33
apokryphos_hilz_: did you read the link I gave you?03:34
djk_after editing /etc/apt/sources.list run sudo apt-get update03:34
_hilz_i just saw it...! man... i have so much to learn in one day!03:35
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_hilz_i was wonderint what was that ! tell thingy!03:35
_hilz_now i saw all the messages !03:35
_hilz_let me read03:35
cmomanvblanton: does your isp actually allow you to host a webserver on your connection?03:36
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cmomanvblanton: just wondered if the isp might be blocking03:36
_markIs There an xvid codec available?03:37
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Snake__Can anyone her teach me how to write shell scripts?03:38
Snake__here*03:38
Mr-FalkorSnake__, use google, and search for a guide03:39
naliothSnake__: www.tldp.org has nice writeups on them03:39
Snake__Ooo sweet site!03:39
Snake__Thanks :)03:39
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naliothSnake__: also you can ask uncle google03:41
robotgeek_mark: yes, did you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?03:42
Snake__:)03:42
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goldbrickhttp://castlezzt.net/slideshow/where%20is%20your%20god%20now.jpg03:44
robotgeekgoldbrick: that is offtopic, so please use #kubuntu-offtopic03:45
goldbricksorry, okay03:45
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jaakkoHi human beings. Do you think Kubuntu, i.e. Ubuntu with X + konq + kaffeine + amarok + kdelibs will fit into 256 MB CF card?03:58
ggilbertdoubtful :)03:58
jaakkoSomeone should give it a try :)03:59
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jaakkoI'm just dreaming about totally silent Kubuntu HTPC. Actually it doesn't need KDE, but since amarok is _the_ music player, kdelibs needs to be installed, and... why not other nice kde apps also :)04:01
jaakkoUmm. When keyboards with apt-get update & upgrade hotkeys will hit the markets?04:02
jaakkoJust spend last night installing winxp on my lil' brother' gaming pc. Wish there was such hotkeys :)04:03
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Snake__jaakko: thats a great idea04:20
Snake__linux keyboards04:20
Snake__u might wanna pitch it to logitech :)04:20
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jaakkoYup ;) If I had to type "sudo apt-get upate && apt-get upgrade -V" once per day, linux keyboard would save maybe a month of my life time :)04:21
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admrlalrighty04:22
admrlsorry about that04:22
Snake__Man that would be awesome...04:22
Snake__a linux specific keyboard04:22
admrli got on the phone and my sister got on the computer04:22
Snake__lol admrl dont u hate that?04:23
admrlhaha ya she had to play sum flash game04:23
jaakkoSure one can bind any commands to regular hotkeys.. but u know, it would be different thing if there was "apt-get" printed into the keys :)04:23
admrland when it doesnt work she trys to get me to fix it04:24
Snake__But apt-get is going to be replaced by aplitude soon...so we would be better off with "Get Programs"04:24
Snake__Lol admrl the best thing is when AOL videos wont work for my lil sis, and she complains to me about it04:24
jaakko"Get Programs" sounds a bit too microsoft :)04:24
admrlhow would apt-get have its own key04:24
admrlya millsberry.com or something04:24
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admrlim teaching her apt-get but she doesnt get it yet04:25
Snake__admrl: we are going to build a linux specific keyboard04:25
Snake__:)04:25
admrlare you now..?04:25
admrlubuntu gear..?04:25
Snake__in our heads. and talk about how cool it would be if it was real :-P04:25
exiumAlright. Newbie: Is kynaptic on Kubuntu 5.1004:25
admrlhaha04:26
Snake__exium: No, Kubuntu 5.10 comes with adept...if thats what you mean04:26
Snake__kynaptic was so pre-schooler it wasn't even funny04:26
exiumOk. Bit obvious, but I was making sure.04:26
exiumlol.04:26
borisattvahi, i just downloaded and burnt a DVD of breezy kubuntu, which is claimed to be a combo install and live cd. the dvd is acessible in linux environment, but its neither bootable nor accessible in windows for the 'live' demonstration. was this dropped or did i do something wrong?04:26
admrli was scared to install kubuntu because i thought there was only one guy working on it in the background with no work going into it so i installed ubuntu and installed kde on it04:27
Snake__borisattva: that's not how a live CD works04:27
jaakkoActually I switched from cli apt-get to adept yesterday. I even made an icon for adept in the kpanel :)04:27
Snake__borisattva: you boot with the CD in it, and it should run without messing up your windows partitions04:27
borisattvasnake: i was able to boot into the 'live ubuntu' cd given to me at work..04:27
Snake__borisattva: through windows?!04:28
borisattvano thourgh booting into it bypassing windows04:28
Snake__borisattva: ya thats what your kubuntu disk should be doing04:28
borisattvathe dvd i burnt does not appear bootable, and i verified the boot sequence on all machines installed. they boot from othere bootable meddia just fine04:28
jaakkoBtw, I wish next Kubuntu will have proper WLAN applet. (Or next KDE release will have...)04:28
admrlborisattva: and dont save anything to your harddrive it could currupt the filesystem04:28
exiumLast question: I have a fat partition I want to mount. Should I use -mount or use the disk tool?04:29
Snake__admrl: he wouldn't be able to, ntfs is read only on live disks04:29
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jaakkoexium: what disk tool are you referring?04:29
borisattvastrange it is not.. is there a special way to burn it? i just right clicked it and chose write to dvd on the iso i downloaded..04:29
exiumDefault Kubuntu under System Settings -- Disk & Filesystems04:29
admrli had a harddrive get currupted after using i think a knoppix disc for a few days while my parents used windows04:30
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Snake__borisattva: No that should work....perhaps just try downloading the live CD and using that04:30
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admrlexium: sudo mount /dev/?device?04:30
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jaakkoexium: strange, I don't have that.. is under K button?04:31
borisattvai was hoping to be able to give out the bootable dvds though.. as they appear to pack alot more with them04:31
Snake__Well the DVDs should work..04:31
exiumyes jaakko04:31
saraghello04:31
admrlwhatever your device is if its like a hard drive it will be like /dev/hda104:31
Snake__Did you finalize the disk?04:31
saragcan anyone help me with a dvd problem?04:31
jaakkoexium: my ~/.kde is 2-3 years old, seems it's not upgraded properly :)04:31
kakeihow can i dowload a full folder from a FTP with the shell?04:32
admrlwhats the problem sarag04:32
ggilberthehe04:32
jaakkoexium: anyway, if I need to mount something more than once and it's not an usb device, I tend to put it into fstab04:32
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Snake__borisattva: when you burned it, did you tell it to finalize the CD?04:32
ggilbertjaakko: I have this habit of wiping my ~/.kde ever new release. Just to see if anything cool has been added to the default :p04:32
saragi have xine, vlc, totem etc but cant seem to play a dvd with my internad paler04:32
borisattvasnake__ i'm new to linux, is finalization meant to occur by default when using the right click "burn to dvd" command on an ISO file?04:33
borisattvai didnt see an option to select it in that method04:33
saraginternalayer04:33
Snake__borisattva: it depends, what did you use to burn the disk?04:33
saragdamn keyboard04:33
exiumjaakko, still a new player to linux. fstab is a bit voodoo to me.04:33
jaakkoggilbert: haha, but what about your personalized desktop?? I know, maybe one should wipe .kde at least once per year to avoit problems generally :)04:33
borisattvaits a sony cd/dvd+-rw.. sony dvd-r's. and i just used the i guess whatever built-in dvd burning method that ubuntu has04:34
ggilbertjaakko: Well I back it up first :)04:34
Snake__Ohhh.....hmm I don't know anything about ubuntu's burning methods, I thought you used windows04:34
ggilbertin terms of my customization, that only takes 10-20 minutes to do04:34
jaakkoexium: well, fstab may be a bit unfriendly, but at least he doesn't sleep with your gf or drink your beers.04:34
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ggilbertevery six months or so :)04:35
saragwhats the best way to watch as dvd on a kbuntu system04:35
ggilbertsarag:  isntall xine-ui04:35
admrlsarag did you already get everything from ubuntu plf repos04:35
Snake__borisattva: perhaps burn the kubuntu disks under windows?04:35
saragi have xine04:35
saragand vlc04:35
ggilbertsarag: then just open up xine and hit the dvd button04:35
admrlsarag: your going to need to add the plf repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list04:35
jaakkoggilbert: for me it takes one hour to decide what bg image to use :) that's why I try to avoid tweaking my desktop...04:35
Snake__borisattva: or if you just want to hand out disk, do it the easy way and order ubuntu disks off the site04:35
borisattvahehe i dont have a windows pc with a dvdr anymore.. i liked ubuntu so much i sacked it :( and my laptop only has cdr04:35
saragill try brb04:36
ggilbertjaakko:  :)04:36
Snake__Ah I see...04:36
admrlsarag:and install the librarys and such to watch a dvd04:36
Snake__Hmmm you might want to go to #ubuntu to talk about that04:36
borisattvai'll do that, i think my associates will like kubunut more . but whatever works04:36
Snake__they may be able to help you more04:36
jaakkosarag: for dvds I recommend kaffeine + xine-engine (maybe gstreamer would do also)04:36
borisattvathanks for the help guys04:36
ggilbertjaakko: Personally I've always found kaffeine way too unstable.04:36
Snake__borisattva: Like I said, you could got #ubuntu and try for help there04:37
Snake__could go to**04:37
admrlsarag: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf <<<<<<<<<< here is info and everything you need to watch a dvd04:37
jaakkoggilbert: me too, but personally I've always found KDE apps way too sweet.04:37
admrlsarag: and add the plf repo to your sources.list04:37
ggilbertjaakko: I love kaffeine and all, but it doesnt do me much good if it crashes halfway through the movie :)04:38
jaakkoggilbert: that means, I rather fill bugreports about unstable kde apps that switch to non-kde :) you know, consistent...04:38
ggilbertI do use kaffeine for mp3s though04:38
admrli like amarok for music04:38
ggilbertHopefully the file-open bug disappears in dapper drake :)04:38
admrlim having that mimetype problem again04:39
admrlugh!04:39
admrlits horrable04:39
jaakkoggilbert: I know the feeling, halfway a movie you think "umm, maybe too much unsharping" and press x... crash!04:39
ggilbertI prefer juk for my music and then kaffeine for the one off mp3s04:40
ggilbertboth are good apps though, juk just suits my way of listening a bit better04:40
nomasteryodaggilbert, kaffeine is too bulky as is juk and amarok... xmms is sweet though04:40
admrlyes juk is also amazing04:40
Snake__Is there anyway to open pictures in konsole?04:41
admrlya i used to go for xmms04:41
nomasteryodaggilbert, if you have a spare system on your network... you can setup ampache and use it04:41
admrlhaha!04:41
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jaakkoggilbert: amarok will be really killer, just needs to be more stable too.04:41
admrlSnake__:04:41
admrlshit04:41
Snake__:)04:41
jaakkoSnake__: aart?04:41
Snake__Hmm04:41
Snake__Ill try it04:41
admrlSnake__: your if you want to do that im pretty sure you can find something that will change it to ascii04:41
admrland get it to open buti ve never heard of something that opens an image on the command line04:42
ggilbertjaakko: I just normally don't do much with playlists. I just type the name of the cd or the artist I want to hear04:42
jaakkomovies are nice in ascii mode, expect subtitles are pretty unclear04:42
Snake__lol04:42
jaakkoggilbert: so mpg123 would do fine for u :)04:43
admrlive never figured that one out jaako04:43
ggilbertyeah04:43
admrlhaha!04:43
admrlnice jaakko04:43
admrlim getting this again "Sorry could not find mime type application/octet-stream"04:44
ggilbertjaakko: mpg123 was what I used until I switched to kde last year :)04:44
admrlwhen i open native kde apps04:44
jaakkoggilbert: i'm sorry for that :/04:44
ggilbertha04:44
admrlggilbert what wm did you use before that04:44
ggilbertion04:45
admrlion hmmmm isnt that just windows with like black behind them04:45
ggilberthttp://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/04:45
admrloh yes04:46
admrlthat is one pretty desktop04:46
ggilbertI was mostly a terminal guy until I switched to kde04:46
Snake__!info ion04:46
admrli still am04:46
admrlim using kde and ctrl+alt+f1 ;)04:47
ggilbertcame full circle04:47
admrlvt1 is my friend :)04:47
ggilbertkde was also the first de I used in linux :)04:47
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admrlya me also04:47
admrli tried gnome on mandrake04:47
admrlbut hated it04:47
ggilbertI liked gnome04:48
ggilbertswitched from kde to it04:48
_sarasourselist was giving me guff whenm i tried to apt-gety update04:48
Snake__I hate gnome..04:48
Snake__kde is to slow04:48
Snake__xfce for life04:48
jaakkoI thought fvwm95 was amazing, until found KDE 1.0 :-)04:48
ggilberthehe04:48
admrl_sara are you sarag..?04:49
jaakkoSnake__: kde is not that slow if you run kde apps only. imho mix-toolkit de is slow04:49
ggilbertjaakko: my first linux install defaulted to fvwm95. I couldnt stand it and then I found kde :p04:49
Snake__jaakko: it is when your running it on 800 mhz with 512 ram ;)04:49
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ggilbertit was so cool at the time04:49
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jaakkoggilbert: i run kde on 233 mmx with 160 mb of ram. (well, the cpu was extreme mobile version with huge 512 kb l2 cache!!)04:50
ggilbert:)04:50
ggilbertthe good old days04:51
jaakkoit was even enough power to decode divx movies!04:51
ggilbertnot that I miss them. I'm much happier with kde 3.5 than I was with beta 2 :p04:51
admrlanyone try kde 4 yet..?04:52
jaakkoyeah, 2.x was not so great.04:52
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ggilbertno?04:52
admrlive heard you can download it04:52
ggilbertI never really used 2.x04:52
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jaakkowhile 1.x was so fresh, 2.x was mainly slow. 3.x was a breakthrough04:53
ggilbertjaakko: 3.2 was what got me back on it04:53
admrljaakko: how long have you been using linux04:53
jaakkoggilbert: i also had my non-kde period, was running WindowMaker back then :)04:54
jaakkoadmrl: got my first computer '97 and installed first slackware '98 :)04:54
admrljaakko: ya i had mine too but i ran fluxbox04:55
jaakkoafeter that, it's been really sad story... nowdays they almost my entire life :/04:55
jaakkos/they/they're04:55
jaakkoadmrl: yup, another really lightweight wm. anyway, nowdays i tink one sould run de, not just wm with some applet bar04:56
jaakkofor de means one toolkit, highly usable d'n'd etc.04:57
admrlpanel in kde 3.5 was a big step i think04:57
jaakkoadmrl: agree, especially the possibility have multiple panels04:58
ggilbertjaakko: you could have that before 3.5 :)04:58
admrlya i just went from 2 panels back to 1 tho04:58
admrlhaha04:58
jaakkodid I? oh damn :/04:59
admrlya i used that in 3.4*;)04:59
admrlim thinking adding taskbar v2 or whatever04:59
ggilbertI have a kind of gnomish set up now :p04:59
ggilbertmy panel layout looks nearly identical to the default gnome04:59
admrlanyone have screenshots!?05:00
jaakkohey guys, everyone upload your screenshot right now?05:00
admrl*runs to tripod05:00
robotgeekpaste.ubuntu-nl.org/604805:02
robotgeeknot much, this is my gnome desktop05:02
jaakkoheh, http://nurkka.org/tmp/screen.jpg05:02
robotgeekaghhh, my script is messed up05:02
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admrlhttp://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png05:03
jaakkomaybe the best thing i love in kde is kioslave... i could save my screenshot direcly into sftp:// if i would not use gimp :)05:03
robotgeekhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6051 , there we go05:03
ggilbertyes05:03
ggilbertthat's what keeps me on kde05:03
sara_what was that ftyp addy admrl?05:04
robotgeeku mean you guys don't use "sleep 3; import -frame -depth 8 -dither -quality 9 foo.png"05:04
admrlummm i dont remember search google for ubuntu and plf05:04
robotgeeklol, i got that from the wiki05:04
ggilbertrobotgeek: gone native. now I use ksnapshot :)05:04
sara_i got d/c05:04
admrlthat was for you sara_05:04
jaakkoadmrl: LOL OMG :D05:04
admrlbut i need to go05:04
admrlyep yep05:05
robotgeeksara_: java problems?05:05
admrlthank you thank you  *bows**05:05
robotgeekadmrl: ?05:05
sara_troubles playing a rented dvd on my internal dvd player05:05
jaakkoadmrl: where i can dl that bg?05:05
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sara_i have vlc, kaffeine, xine etc05:06
robotgeekis that kicker, admrl ?05:06
jaakkosara_: what's the prob exactly?05:06
robotgeeksara_: you need libdvdcss, i guess05:06
nomasteryodayes05:07
sara_i'll try to get  libdvdcss05:07
nomasteryodathat would be the file05:07
robotgeeksara_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:07
nomasteryodalibdvdcss205:07
karvrevening, does anyone know if its possible to get the kernel source 2.6.12-10-38605:07
robotgeeksara_: feel free to ask if you don't follow05:07
taojahis it possible to 'irc in root' with Kubuntu ?05:07
robotgeektaojah: what do you mean, irc while your are root? if so, yes. but why :)05:08
taojahyes thats what i mean05:08
sara_im going there05:08
taojahi have read its very dangerous05:08
robotgeektaojah: yes, because you may be compromised. and then, some has access as root. pooof!05:09
taojahhow can i check if i am root05:09
jaakkotaojah: it's dangerous to be a root... u know, if human is given too much power, sooner or later everything is destroyed :)05:09
robotgeektaojah: whoami05:09
taojahwhats that05:09
ggilberta good rule of thumb is, if you don't need to be root to do something, don't be root05:09
robotgeektaojah: that tells you who you are :). if it says your name in the console, you are safe05:10
taojahok05:10
taojahwhat would it say if i was root05:10
karvrI updated kernel thru apt updater to 2.6.12-10 , I'm having trouble getting the source file is it available ??05:10
sara_libdvdread3 is already the newest version05:11
jaakkosara_: if start dvd player in konsole, what's outputted there?05:11
sara_how do u start a dvd in console?05:12
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jaakkosara_: i mean just run kaffeine or xine in konsole05:13
jaakkoalt+f2 -> konsole -> kaffeine for example05:13
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sara_as root?05:13
jaakkosara_: well, as normal user firstly05:13
robotgeekkarvr: why do you need source for?05:14
sara_sara@S0106000b6ae2fb77:~$ kaffeine: GStreamerPart: New gstreamer state: READY05:14
karvrim trying toinstall klamav and it requires it05:14
jaakkosara_: did u click "open dvd"? try to switch to xine-engine05:14
jaakkoapt-get install kaffeine-xine05:15
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jaakkoSettings -> Player engine -> Kaffeine05:15
robotgeekkarvr: does it need kernel-source or kernel-headers05:15
sara_kaffeine-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:15
karvrsource05:15
Alltakenok guys, so what is the difference between Gnome and KDE, why would one choose kubuntu over ubuntu? is it just visual, or somthing mroe than that05:15
jaakkosara_: what ubuntu release you are using?05:16
sara_kbuntu breezy05:16
karvrerror is ...kernel source files not found05:16
jaakkoAlltaken: haven't read torvald's opinion? it's the thruth, cos' mr. linus is the master of (linux) universe05:17
Alltakenjaakko:  where would i find this opinion?05:17
jahshuarobotgeek what about using sudo in console while on irc and webpages etc.. is that dangerous ?05:17
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robotgeekjahshua: yes05:17
jaakkosara_: umm.. have you run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade recently?05:17
jahshuashit05:17
jahshua:(05:17
jahshuai have been doing that alot05:17
jaakkoAlltaken: slashdot.org for example :)05:17
sara_kakko just did05:18
robotgeekjahshua: hmm, no i misunderstodd05:18
sara_jakko05:18
jaakkojahshua: forget the root account, just use sudo if root access is needed05:18
jahshuai dont have a root account05:18
jahshuaheh05:18
robotgeekjahshua: no, browsing on the internet while sudo in console is safe :)05:18
jahshuai only have one05:18
jahshuayou cant access root on kubuntu right?05:19
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robotgeekjahshua: hmm, actually it's disabled. but you can enable it05:19
jahshuaoh05:19
robotgeekubotu: tell jahshua about sudo05:19
jahshuabut i have no account for it05:19
robotgeekjahshua: read the link which ubotu sent you05:20
jaakkosara_: weird, i think your system is broken or something05:20
jahshuayes i have read that05:20
jahshuai was still confused05:20
jahshuabecause some people told me different things05:20
jahshuabut now i understand :)05:20
sara_maybe my sourcelist is screwy05:21
jahshuawhat does this do robotgeek sudo apt-get install build-essential05:21
jaakkosara_: as you seem to live in the other side of atlantis, unfortunately i'm not able to come there and fix your dvd playback :/05:21
Mr-Falkoranyone know about a good source.list for apt ?05:21
robotgeeksara_: cat /etc/issue , what does it say?05:21
robotgeek!easysource05:21
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:21
Mr-Falkorthnx05:21
robotgeekjahshua: installs gcc and the libraries installed05:21
jaakkosara_: could you paste your source list? (or05:21
jahshuawhat is that05:21
robotgeekjahshua: a compiler, with which you can compile c,c++, java and other code written in those languages05:22
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jahshuaoooh05:22
jahshuainteresting05:22
jahshuacan i install it ?05:23
sara_i just need the repository for kaffeine-xine05:23
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robotgeekjahshua: if you install build-essential, it gets installed05:24
jaakkosara_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main05:24
sara_thx05:24
jahshuaits a program/package right ?05:24
gverig1I installed kubuntu (default configuration) and I have no sound now... Any idea (or standard sound fixes)?05:24
robotgeekgverig1: lsmod, lspci outputs to pastebin :)05:25
Hobbseejahshua: yes, it is05:25
jaakkosara_: kaffeine-xine is in universe, so you need something like deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:25
sara_sweet dude05:25
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gverig1robotgeek: All of them or audio-related only?05:26
DaSkreechWhats the default office suite in Kubuntu?05:26
robotgeekgverig1: it's the pastebin, so i don't mind full. whichever is easier05:26
DaSkreechthe libs for Koffice and Openoffice are both installed but neither suite is05:27
jaakkosara_: btw, what dvd you're going to watch? :)05:27
HobbseeDaSkreech: openoffice 205:27
DaSkreechHobbsee: Thanks05:27
gverig1robotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47620705:29
Alltakenjaakko:  linus likes KDE because he wants to tweek a crap load of stuff (my summery of his opinion from slashdot)05:29
Alltakeni think i will try Gnome (i have tried KDE in the past), see what its like.05:29
robotgeekAlltaken: same here, very configurable :)05:29
jaakkoAlltaken: roger that05:29
sara_haha   charlie and the choc05:30
jaakkotorvalds is a coder, not UI designer05:30
sara_im d/l kaffiene-xine05:30
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Alltakenrobotgeek:  my last experience with Linux left me not using it coz i spent about 100Hours trying to get 5.1 channel sound working, and never got it to LOL.  out of the box is my perference to highly configurable05:30
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robotgeekgverig1: you are in luck, sound guru crimsun is here05:31
robotgeekhey crimsun, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47620705:31
crimsunthat's my cue to "use the restroom"05:31
robotgeekgverig1: did you try your mixer settings, raise volume etc. cause all the sound modules seem loaded05:31
robotgeekcrimsun: lol05:31
sara_kaffeine-xine depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2); however:05:32
sara_  Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9.05:32
sara_waa waa05:32
gverig1robotgeek: When I try to set the sount server (autodetect or alsa) I get an error05:32
jaakkosara_: are you sure you run apt-get DIST-upgrade?05:32
robotgeekgverig1: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart05:32
crimsungverig1: what's the issue?05:33
gverig1robotgeek: device can't be opened for playback05:33
sara_do i have to use kaffeine?05:33
gverig1robotgeek: restart- both OK05:33
crimsungverig1: start by pasting onto pastebin the output of ''cat /proc/asound/cards''05:33
sara_for dvd?05:33
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jaakkosara_: just boot winxp or wait hd-dvd :D05:33
robotgeeksara_: no, hold on05:33
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robotgeeksara_: sudo apt-get -f install05:34
gverig1crimsun: %( the command you gave says something about USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ad05:34
sara_i cant believe that i have xine, vlc, kaffeine,totem etc and cant plasy a dvd05:34
swimhey folks does kubuntu have an update notification deally like ubuntu does?05:34
sara_k05:34
DaSkreechswim: Good question :)05:34
robotgeeksara_: then, you need to install libdvdscss05:34
crimsungverig1: paste the output onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.com05:35
robotgeeksara_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:35
sara_k its removed05:35
sara_its doing it..05:35
gverig1crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47621005:35
sara_Unpacking replacement libdvdcss2 ...05:36
sara_Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1) ...05:36
sara_is the last line] 05:36
jaakkoAlltaken: what's your sound chip?05:36
gverig1crimsun: Where in the logs would I look for more details?05:36
crimsungverig1: ok in a Konsole, echo snd-via82xx-modem | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist05:37
sara_now hat robotgeek?05:37
sara_thx by the way05:37
robotgeeksara_: now, play the dvd05:37
Alltakenjaakko:  i have blown up that Mobo since then05:37
robotgeeksara_: enjoy :)05:37
Alltakeni am on a new computer now, so i dunno yet.05:37
jaakkoAlltaken: cos' i also spend ~10h setting up spdif playback, until i realized i was using coaxial cable while the laptop had optical interface :D05:38
Alltakenbut all three of my Mobos are AC97 codec chips, i assume that is fairly standard sound decoding these days05:38
sara_when u say play dvd with kaffiene  it just sits there.. no error..but no play05:39
Alltakenjaakko:  he he.  na i just use the 3 mini plugs05:39
robotgeeksara_: select xine engine, it shud play05:39
robotgeeki gotta eat food now, back in 1505:39
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gverig1crimsun: did that, added that entry. What do I do now?05:40
sara_where do u get the chance to select xine engine?05:40
jaakkosara_: Settings -> Player engine -> Kaffeine05:40
sara_k thx05:40
crimsungverig1: do you want to use your onboard sound as the primary?05:40
jaakkonot really intuative way05:40
gverig1crimsun: That's the only one I have (AFAIK)05:40
gverig1crimsun: So, yeah.05:41
gverig1crimsun: I take it I need to unload the driver or something...05:41
swimanyone know if kubuntu has an update notification deally like ubuntu does?05:42
crimsungverig1: no, you have two devices, a usb device and a pci onboard one05:42
sara_it seems to just hang after i select kaffeine in settings... and click open dvd .. it just sits there05:42
Snake__Does anyone know where I could find a LCARS theme at?05:42
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Hobbseeswim: it doesnt now, there's the adept update manager though, in the kmenu, it should do in the next release05:42
gverig1crimsun: I don't have a USB device... OH!!! It's probably my webcam with mic...05:42
swimgotcha thx Hobbsee05:43
gverig1crimsun: Can you please PM how to fix this? bbl05:43
sara_how do u get the menu screen05:43
crimsungverig1: I can't help you unless you're physically present, just ping me when you return05:43
DaSkreechHobbsee: Should I take it by that that it's in dapper now?05:43
DaSkreechHobbsee: Or in progress rather05:43
HobbseeDaSkreech: it's not in dapper now, that i've seen, and it's on the wiki as a planned kubuntu project05:44
DaSkreechAh05:44
DaSkreechHmm05:44
DaSkreechI suppose it's a trivial thing to do05:44
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Hobbseegot no idea05:47
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Mr-FalkorI`ve got a problem with glib05:58
Mr-FalkorWhen I was trying to compile gaim, I got an error that glib (cant remember) was already installed but it returned glib (cant remember) a newer version05:59
crimsunMr-Falkor: sudo apt-get install gaim05:59
crimsunMr-Falkor: don't try to compile 2.0beta. It will eat stuff.06:00
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satemplerwhen trying to open up a video file with kaffeine i get an error :No URI handler implemented for "system:/home/Downloads/TWiT_033_h264.mov"06:00
kkathmancrimsun: I also heard there was a mass feedback on some of the features they removed06:01
satemplernow when I change system: to file: and plugin my user name between Downloads and home it works fine06:01
Snake__is WINE hard to use?06:02
satemplerhow do i change my home folder opening system:/home to file:/home/satempler06:02
kkathmanSnake__: not really, but its a bit picky on how well it works with some programs06:03
Snake__Is it worth my time downloading?06:03
kkathmancheck out Frank's Corner Snake before you download06:04
Snake__Franks corner?06:04
kkathmanSnake__: no I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and attempted again tno I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and yep06:04
kkathmanargghhhhhhhhhhhhh06:05
kkathmanwtf06:05
kkathmanSnake__: one sec06:05
Snake__Okie dokie :)06:05
kkathmanSnake__: http://frankscorner.org/06:05
Snake__wrong C/P?06:05
kkathmangrrrr sometimes Kvirc retains things it shouldnt06:05
Snake__lol06:06
kkathmananyway...thats a really good site for running windows proggies under Linux06:06
Kamping_Kaiserlol06:06
jrjxI'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 5.10 system.  Yesterday, sometime during the day while I wasn't looking at it, my system went wonky such that the hard disk drive activity light went constant on and I couldn't get the system to respond, display anything from the auto screen blanking, etc.  As if something was using ~ 100% CPU and wasn't giving it up.  So, I did as I would for a malfunctioning Win NT-ish system and power cycled w/o cleanly shutting down.06:07
jrjxSubsequent to the reboot ... now, my bar at the bottom of the screen (I think it's called "kicker") is malfunctioning, not showing me a little button for each separate window I open up, as it was showing to me previously.  I've looked at the online config options and see nothing obviously wrong.06:07
jrjxWhat do I need to look at?06:07
Snake__wtf cedega costs $$???06:07
Snake__That sucks :(06:07
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swimwhat's the difference between Adept's full upgrade, and safe upgrade?06:09
jahshuaanyone use Nessus vulnerability scanner with kubuntu ??06:11
DaSkreechjrjx: Huh?06:11
jrjxDaSk: You know the bar that normally goes across the bottom of the screen, on the left is the big KDE button and on the right is the system tray and clock, and in the middle every time you open a new window there's a little thingie button that appears corresponding to that window?06:13
jrjxI'm not getting the thingie button to appear all of a sudden.06:13
DaSkreechAh06:13
jrjxThe windows are still opening, and I can switch between them with Alt-Tab, but I can't click on them in my button bar using the mouse.06:14
DaSkreechCan You right click on the kicker and add an applet?06:14
jrjxOkay, it seems to be called "KDE Panel".06:14
jrjxYes.  Lemme see if something is not added that should be ...06:15
DaSkreechTry taskbar06:15
jrjxOkay, there it is.  I have no idea why it went away in the first place, tho.06:16
jrjxThanks, that was simple (once you know what to look for).  I was thinking something was corrupted and I'd have to reinstall.06:16
DaSkreech:-)06:16
jrjx(Which would be a pain, consideing I can only use dialup to get at anything I need actoss the network.)06:17
DaSkreech:-)06:17
jrjxThankee.06:18
DaSkreechSure06:19
DaSkreechhave fun with Kubuntu and get that computer checked out06:19
jrjxdjk: AFAIK I was / am not running "azureus", I don't even know what it is.06:20
jahshuahello06:20
jahshuahow do i open a .bz2 file06:20
crimsunyou may need to bunzip2 it first06:21
crimsunif it's a text file, you can just open it with vim06:21
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jahshuaits a program06:22
calliegah!06:22
jahshuaa firewall program06:22
calliekopete keeps stabbing my system up06:22
crimsunjahshua: then just extract it using tar xfj06:23
calliecauses it to completely hang wheneve i try to open the configure dialogue06:23
nomasteryodaremove it then06:23
nomasteryodakopete is not the best...06:23
nomasteryodaimho06:23
callieyou a gaim user?06:23
jahshuaand what do i do with tar.gz files06:23
nomasteryodafor IM, yea... xchat for this06:23
crimsunjahshua: tar xfz06:23
admrloh my back06:24
DaSkreechjahshua: Similar06:24
nomasteryodatar -xfz file06:24
calliei dont like gaim really, its ugly06:24
DaSkreechBut functional06:24
nomasteryodayea... yeah functional is important06:24
DaSkreech:-)06:24
admrlhas anyone mentioned amsn06:24
callieit doesnt do anything that i cant do in kopete06:24
calliewell nothing i need to do06:24
callieapart from the fact its now causing my whole system to hang06:25
callieany ideas on where i could start solving this?06:25
admrlcallie: whats it doing..?06:26
jahshuathat command isnt working daskree06:26
jrjxcallie: Did you recently upgrade kopete?  Can you downgrade?  Or upgrade?  Reinstall?06:26
callieadmrl: i click on configure and the whole system freezes, keyboard mouse etc06:26
admrlare you using a webcam..?06:26
admrldo you have one plugged into the computer06:27
callieadmrl: yeah06:27
admrlunplug it ;)06:27
admrlrecompile the webcam drivers06:27
admrlthen it will work06:27
calliei dont use the webcam06:28
callieor havent06:28
admrldoesnt matter06:28
admrlif your running the latest kopete06:28
admrlthats my guess wehn you try using a webcam in breezy w/o recompiling the drivers06:29
admrlthan it freezes06:29
calliei dont even get ot a dialogue06:29
callieit hangs straight away06:29
admrlconfiguring kopete uses webcam on the newest version06:29
admrlya i know06:29
admrlit just freezes cant do a thing06:29
calliecool, just checking06:29
calliei have to turn the computer off and on again too which isnt too healthy06:30
admrlanyone else agree..?06:30
DaSkreechjahshua: Which command?06:30
callieok admrl so what now?06:30
admrldid you unplug it..?06:30
callieyup06:30
admrlwell hopefully when you try to configure it it will not see your webcam and try to use it and if it freezes06:31
admrlthan we have a different problem wouldnt you agree..?06:31
callieok, well lets give it a shot06:31
admrllol06:31
admrlgood luck06:31
callieyou're a genius06:32
callie:D06:32
admrlit worked..?06:32
callieyup06:32
admrlwhat can i say :)06:32
calliehow the hell did you know that?06:32
admrllol just a lucky guess06:32
calliewell, im glad it wasnt a sign of something else much worse06:33
admrlyes yes06:33
calliethanks dude06:33
admrlnow you should recompile your webcam drivers do you need help with that also..?06:33
calliewell, as far as im aware linux drivers dont exist for my cam, although i havent checked recently06:34
calliehence me not using it in linux06:34
admrllol well spca5xx contains ALOT of drivers06:34
callieplus the linux clients only use the older netmeeting protocol06:34
admrlwhat..?06:34
admrlnoooooo noo06:35
admrlkopete can connect to msn webcams06:35
admrlim assuming thats not thru netmeeting06:35
admrlthru msn messenger06:35
calliei think it might be, unless that was part of the update06:35
admrli dont know about yahoo06:35
admrlare you using kde 3.5..?06:35
calliethere's two ways to webcam under msn06:35
callieyeah, im using kde 3.506:36
admrlhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=38324406:36
admrlwell try this06:36
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admrland try "sudo apt-get camorama06:37
admrl"06:37
admrlbreezy comes with broken webcam drivers and you never know until you try06:37
admrlits easy im pretty sure you dont even need to reboot06:38
calliewhats camorama?06:40
calliea util?06:40
admrlyep ype for viewing webcams06:40
callienice one06:40
admrljust locally06:40
calliedamn! that girl next door is hot as well! ;)06:40
admrlhaha06:41
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jrjxWhat girl nextdoor?  Where?  How can I meet her?06:41
Kamping_Kaiserlol.06:41
Kamping_Kaisermoving -to this one ;)06:41
Kamping_Kaiser*-OT06:41
calliefly to london first06:41
admrlhaha06:43
admrlcallie: here is what camorama looks like http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/motion2.png06:43
Kamping_Kaisercallie: now what ;)06:43
admrli had to upload a picture to my tripod so i could show you what it looks like06:44
admrlits really easy06:44
jrjxLondon?  She's in London?  Damn.  I'm not in London.  :-(06:44
callieshit admrl! i love your desktop06:46
callieand your themes06:46
admrlhaha06:46
callielooks purdy06:46
admrlya it took me forever to get it all special like that lol06:46
admrljust for me to change it06:46
callieyou should post it somewhere06:46
admrli havnt put out the kbfx button yet06:46
admrli was trying to emulate the pureline thing going on06:47
admrli got everything but the wallpaper and the kbfx theme from kde-look.org06:47
admrlyou can get the wallpaper from pixelgirlpresents.com06:48
DaSkreechinkscape :)06:48
callienow im definately not going to bed06:48
calliedamn you!06:48
admrland the kbfx button only i have but if you want it i can put it on tripod for you06:48
admrlhahaha06:48
calliekbfx?06:48
admrlDaSkreech: you use inkscape06:48
DaSkreechNot me I don't have a designers scrap of DNA in mu body06:49
DaSkreechWe use it a lot at our company06:49
admrlcallie: ya kbfx is like like the kmenu button but its like a windows start menu more but themable06:49
DaSkreechjust upgraded to 0.4306:49
admrlwhat company..?06:49
callieadmrl: ah i see, cool06:49
admrli LOVE inkscape06:49
DaSkreechhttp://www.alteroo.com06:49
admrlhttp://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png06:49
admrlheres my current desktop06:50
admrlyou can see the kstart menu06:50
admrlthats kbfx06:50
admrl*i posted that on here earlier06:50
callienice desktop ;)06:51
Mr-Falkoradmrl, how did you get that desktop changer on the right side ?06:51
Mr-FalkorI cant remember how I did it06:51
admrlhaha its a little secret you make a panel on the side06:51
admrland you shrink it and you can make it whatever size you want06:52
Mr-Falkoradmrl, how did you "activate" it ?=06:52
admrlactivate..?06:52
Mr-Falkorget it there on the desktop06:53
admrlDaSkreech: thats really really kool06:53
admrllol06:53
admrlright click on a panel that you already have06:53
admrlthen06:53
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admrladd new panel06:53
DaSkreechadmrl: Very very06:53
admrlthen click panel06:53
admrlwhat do you do there...?06:53
admrlDaSkreech..?06:54
admrlDaSkreech: i was typing without thinking i was trying to direct that questionto you06:54
DaSkreechProgram06:54
DaSkreechPLone developer06:55
Mr-Falkoradmrl, I have nothing on my new panel, its empty06:55
admrlMr-Falkor, Mr-Falkor, Mr-Falkor, you need to add a Pager to it!06:55
admrl;)06:55
admrlright click on it > add applet to panel06:56
admrladd the desktop pager06:56
Mr-Falkorah06:56
Mr-Falkorthere yes06:56
Mr-Falkorthank you :)06:56
callieok, here goes nothing06:56
admrlcallie: what are you trying now..?06:57
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callieadmrl: the webcam06:58
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admrlahhhhh you compiled the drivers than..?06:58
callieyeah06:58
admrlexciting06:58
admrlcallie: you should keep us updated :D im excited to hear how you did06:59
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admrlDaSkreech: do you code python..?07:00
admrlDaSkreech: code in python*****07:00
callieadmrl: still dont see anything but its not crashing anyway07:00
DaSkreechadmrl: Yes07:00
admrlwhats it show..?07:00
calliejust blue screen admrl07:01
admrloh yes ummmmm07:01
admrlthere is some modprobe commands that should do the trick07:01
admrllet me take a look07:01
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calliei can see the spca5xx module is loaded07:02
calliecallie@Pearl:/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media$ caminfo07:02
callieDetected 0 Video4Linux devices.07:02
admrltry sudo modprobe -r spca5xx07:02
admrlthan sudo modprobe spca5xx07:03
callieFATAL: Error removing spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx.ko): Device or resource busy07:03
calliehmmm07:03
admrlyep yep close the app thats using the cam07:03
admrlyou always need to do that first07:03
admrlDaSkreech: where did you learn python07:04
calliei dont have any open07:04
admrlDaSkreech: im wanting to learn it07:04
DaSkreechdiveintopython07:04
DaSkreechit comes with ubuntu07:04
admrlummm i remember doing alot of trying to kill /dev/video0 orsomething along those lines07:05
admrlDaSkreech: where do they have that hidden..?07:05
admrland im assuming that your out of luck callie07:06
DaSkreechlocate?07:06
DaSkreech/usr/share/doc07:06
admrlyes yes!07:06
admrlgood thinking07:06
calliei may well be admrl07:06
callie:)07:06
admrlim not having a good day i guess07:06
calliebut its a good start i guess07:06
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admrlhaha what cam do you have callie07:07
admrli will keep my eyes open for drivers07:07
admrloh my!!!!! there is soooooo much documentation in here! i didnt even know about it07:08
admrlthanx DaSkreech07:08
DaSkreechSure07:08
callielogitech quickcam stx admrl07:09
calliegonna try a reboot and see if it frees up that module, probably wont but its worth a shot07:09
calliebrb07:09
admrlwell your in luck07:09
admrl!\07:09
ubotuadmrl: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:09
admrllogitech supports linux07:09
calliethats why i bought it, seems i got the only cam thats not supported ;)07:10
calliejust my luck eh!07:10
admrlhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/categories/US/EN,CRID=179407:10
admrllol07:10
admrlwhats that ubotu..?07:10
admrlhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1794,contentid=1023507:11
admrlare you sure thats not it..?07:11
calliethats the cam07:11
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admrloh wait07:11
admrlyes07:11
admrli suck :( i didnt read it07:11
admrli was excited for you lol07:12
admrli have a quickcam07:12
Cosmosisdumb question from a noob: I'm planning on installing kubuntu on an old laptop that previously had Windows ME on it.  By installing kubuntu normally, will it overwrite the harddrive and previous OS (which is my hope)?07:12
callieok gonna try this reboot07:13
admrlcosmosis07:13
calliebrb07:13
ggilbertCosmosis: it can07:13
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ggilbertCosmosis: It'll ask you if you want to erase the entire drive07:13
admrlits not going to overwrite it07:13
admrlit will format it07:13
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admrlwhich will remove everything07:13
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Cosmosisgreat, thanks!  I just wondered since I know it is possible to do a dual-boot, but that's not my wish07:14
admrldo i suck again!??07:14
admrlis that my second mistake that statement..?07:14
Cosmosisso no files and a fresh new version of Kubuntu07:14
admrlDaScreech why are you beeting me..?!07:14
DaSkreechIt's not going to overwrite it's going to format?07:15
Snake__admrl: that is the dumbest thing ever...07:15
Snake__DaSkreech: smack him for me07:15
Snake__:)07:15
admrl:(07:15
admrlugh i suck twice07:15
Snake__Formating is over writing the disks withs 0s07:15
DaSkreechSnake__: Man You are lazy07:15
Snake__DaSkreech: I know07:15
DaSkreechWe Suck again!!07:15
DaSkreechCeech and Chong :)07:15
admrlhaha07:15
Snake__lol07:16
admrlwell Snake__ thank you for your ummmmm07:16
Cosmosislol; okay thanks everyone...that answered my question07:16
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admrlexpertise ;)07:16
Snake__Not a problem :)07:16
Snake__Anytime you need a good smack to the face, i'm here for ya buddy :P07:17
admrlthis is the second time ive been in the kubuntu channel and its making me realize how much #gtlug on slashnet sucks07:17
Snake__What gtlug?07:17
Snake__Whats*07:17
DaSkreechTHere is a world outside freenode?07:17
admrlhaha your probably going to slap me again but im im hoping next time it will be with a large trout07:18
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admrloh yes yes07:18
Snake__DaSkreech: Not that i'm aware of...well theres irc.mmoradio.com...but thats it07:18
admrlgtlug is the grand traverse linux user group07:18
admrlim from the states07:18
Snake__Never herd of em07:18
Snake__lol07:18
Snake__Me too!07:18
Snake__:)07:18
admrlmichigan to be exact07:18
Snake__Ohio here07:19
admrloh ya we are close but im in the middle of michigan07:19
Snake__Middle of cleveland.07:19
admrlare you in highschool...?07:20
Snake__Yep07:20
admrlscore! what grade07:20
Snake__11th07:20
Snake__...07:20
Snake__score..? lol07:20
admrli got ya im 12th07:20
admrllol i dont know it just came to me07:20
calliegrrrr07:20
admrlyou can slap me now if youd like07:20
callieso close!07:21
callieFATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format07:21
admrlcallie still doesnt work07:21
admrlhmmmm07:21
Snake__Whats she doing?07:21
Snake__he*07:21
Snake__(unless your a she..)07:21
Snake__lol07:21
admrltrying to get his webcam to work07:21
Snake__Ah, good luck :)07:21
calliei am a meat popcicle07:21
admrlSnake__ ! you know "shes" dont use linux07:22
admrlhaha07:22
Snake__admrl: Don't you know hobbsee yet??07:22
admrl(besides shes in my family)07:22
DaSkreechadmrl: There are quite a few female admins07:22
calliemy mum uses linux and she's 6007:22
admrli was just joking i recently found an article that the lady that does this month in svn for kde wrote07:23
admrl(i think it was her) and it was about that and i just wanted to say it07:23
DaSkreechcallanith07:23
DaSkreechShe's fun07:23
DaSkreechso os annma07:23
Snake__admrl: If you get a chance, talk to hobbsee in here, she is one of the most intelligent linux users youll find07:23
admrlya my mom uses linux also callie*07:23
admrland my 6 year old brother07:24
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Snake__wtf? thats the way to do it admrl !! Teach em young!07:24
admrlhaha;) you know it07:24
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admrlhes going to be shell scripting before he hits 4th grade :D07:24
taojahcan someone please tell me how to repartition your hard drive in kubuntu ??07:24
Snake__admrl: thats seriously a system admin in the making07:25
Snake__He can make some big $$ doing that07:25
DaSkreechtaojah: qtparted I think07:25
admrlSnake__: yes yes he is going to be getting there07:25
admrlim not commenting on partitions any more tonight07:26
DaSkreechAlt+Space should be much more visible07:26
DaSkreech:-)07:26
admrlor my face will be beeten raw by DaSkreech07:26
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calliemake clean, allows me to rebuild the driver yes?07:26
admrlSnake__: you do any scripting07:27
taojahrobotgeek can you tell me how to repartition in kubuntu07:27
Snake__admrl: take it to PM or #kubuntu-offtopic07:27
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gwynmIs it possible to install kubuntu via netboot at all?07:28
robotgeektaojah: use qtparted07:28
taojahok07:29
taojahthanks07:29
taojahis it easy or difficult ?07:29
admrlgwynm no but you can install debian off off 2 floppies07:30
gwynmadmrl: No CD drive, no floppy drive on this laptop.07:30
robotgeektaojah: should be easy07:30
admrloh my how old is it gwynm..?07:32
gwynmadmrl: A couple of years. P4/2Ghz, 1.25Gb of ram.07:32
gwynmadmrl: It *came* with a DVD drive.. it just doesn't work any more, so I pulled it out and swapped it for a second battery.07:32
taojahhas anyone here used qtparted ??07:33
gwynmtaojah: Yeah, I think so.07:33
gwynmadmrl: Looks like you can do an ubuntu netboot with a bit of hacking.. and then it's just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to switch, right?07:33
calliewe have cam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!107:35
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admrlcallie what did you do!!07:36
robotgeekcallie: but can you transmit?07:36
DaSkreechOh my eyes my Eyes!!!!!!07:36
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calliei just repeated the steps in that how-to you posted07:36
Mr-FalkorHow can I play .mp3 files in amarok ?07:36
cyleanybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )07:37
DaSkreech!mp307:37
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:37
admrlcyle you need to install mp3 codecs07:37
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DaSkreechadmrl: He does?07:38
cyleto solve my mouse lag problems?07:38
admrlubotu you explaned it a bit better than i did07:38
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, admrl07:38
DaSkreechadmrl: Assuming cyle is a heish name :)07:38
gverig1crimsun: Thanks, sound works now (I blacklisted USB driver)07:38
admrloh my! lol07:38
admrlim getting ahead of myself07:38
cyleamerican (different spelling for 'kyle')07:38
Mr-FalkorI can play mp3 formats i xmms07:38
gverig1Does alsa support multiple sound devices?07:39
crimsungverig1: it was the modem portion of the via82xx driver that was messing things up.07:39
Mr-Falkorbut I wanna use amarok07:39
crimsungverig1: yes, I have anywhere from 1-4 sound devices running at any given time07:39
robotgeekcallie: what howto, link me :)07:39
gverig1crimsun: ? Really? I blacklisted the usb-sound-whatever07:39
DaSkreechMr-Falkor: xmms is built for playing mp3 you need the codecs for amarok07:39
DaSkreechMr-Falkor: Ask ubot about mp307:39
gverig1crimsun: snd_usb_audio07:39
crimsungverig1: I presume you also blacklisted snd-via82xx-modem as I asked you to.07:39
callierobotgeek: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=spca5xx07:39
cylei had somebody suggest using ps/2 instead of usb for my mouse, which is ridiculous, especially since i had sdl games running great a couple days ago, before i installed kubuntu07:40
gverig1crimsun: Actually, I commented that one out. It is still there but commented out07:40
robotgeekcallie: aggh, did you enable root?07:40
crimsungverig1: you should blacklist it.07:40
Mr-FalkorDaSkreech, ah, thank you07:40
callieenable?07:40
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calliegive it a password?07:41
robotgeekcallie: sudo passwd root, did you do that (look like you did)07:41
gverig1crimsun: k. Is there a tutorial on what hotplug system? Also, how do I add other devices?07:41
callierobotgeek: yeah, why? is that bad?07:41
robotgeekcallie: doing that will leave you with 2 superusers07:42
crimsungverig1: add stuff to be blacklisted? Just append them to that file.07:42
robotgeekubotu: tell callie about sudo07:42
crimsungverig1: man hotplugi07:42
crimsun-i07:42
crimsundon't get too comfortable, though. We've already removed hotplug in Dapper.07:42
callierobotgeek: i know about sudo07:42
gverig1crimsun: heh, k. I added both to the blacklist07:42
Snake__ubotu: Tell admrl who you are07:42
callieSuper User DO07:42
robotgeekcallie: 08:51 < callie> robotgeek: yeah, why? is that bad?07:43
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callierobotgeek: i meant is it bad to have a password for root?07:43
calliewhich i cant imagine it is07:43
gverig1crimsun: How to I add both devices to alsa config?07:43
robotgeekcallie: your gui admin tools won't work with the root user07:43
crimsungverig1: remove snd-usb-audio from the blacklist then modprobe it07:44
robotgeekcallie: and most of the guides (except this one), use sudo07:44
calliei dont ever run gui as root07:44
robotgeekcallie: you might get confused, or complain that it doesn't work07:44
robotgeekcallie: no, i meant stuff like network-admin, synaptic etc07:45
cyleanybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )07:45
gverig1crimsun: OK, probbed. How do I choose devices? Is it available through mixer somehow?07:46
crimsungverig1: yep, choose in KDE's control panel07:46
robotgeekcallie: i've seen this guide before too. there is not reason to enable root. however, you can disable the root user :)07:46
gverig1ohh, k :)07:46
calliei havent encountered anything that doesnt work yet07:46
gverig1crimsun: I can choose the whole device. Can I use one device for mic and other device for playback?07:47
taojahwell that didnt work07:48
crimsungverig1: yes07:48
taojahhas anyone here use fedora 3 redhat linux ?07:48
robotgeekcallie: the basic issue is now both sudo and su will work.07:49
robotgeekcallie: and if your default root password is weak, it's easier to compromise your system.07:49
robotgeekcallie: you can disable it with sudo passwd -l root, but it's your machine :)07:50
gverig1crimsun: how? In control panel -> Sound system -> Hardware I can "verride device location"07:50
Snake__         (__)07:50
Snake__         (oo)07:50
Snake__   /------\/07:50
robotgeekSnake__: no ascii art07:50
Snake__  / |    ||07:50
Snake__ *  /\---/\07:50
Snake__    ~~   ~~07:50
Snake__...."Have you mooed today?"...07:50
Snake__robotgeek: Sorry, its apt-get moo lol07:50
calliewell i'll delete it for now robotgeek, nice to know how to remove the password too ;)07:51
admrlhaha07:51
robotgeekSnake__: try aptitude -v moo07:51
Snake__haha07:51
Snake__nice07:51
robotgeekSnake__: and don't ever paste in here. you were one step from being kicked out07:51
Snake__robotgeek: aw why?07:52
robotgeekSnake__: no ascii art :)07:52
Snake__:-P You people need to lighten up07:52
robotgeekSnake__: that's why you were one step away :)07:53
Snake__robotgeek: hehe point taken07:53
robotgeekSnake__: anyways, keep goin aptitude -v -v moo07:53
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robotgeekSnake__: and so on07:53
Snake__ok07:53
calliewhat was that them called again admrl07:53
callie?07:53
callie*theme07:54
admrlcallie..? what are we talking about07:54
admrlkbfx..?07:54
admrlthe program that made the different kmenu..?07:54
calliewell that too07:55
callieits kde-look.org yeah?07:55
admrlya07:55
admrlthe icon theme and such i got from there07:55
admrlthe wallpaper is from pixelgirlpresents07:55
cyleanybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )07:56
robotgeekadmrl: how do i theme my kicker? is the one with kde also kicker, or is it a separate proggie?07:56
cylethank you guys for your wonderful support :)07:56
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admrlrobotgeek: as in kicker are you talking about the panel or the taskbar or the system tray or the kmenu.>?07:58
robotgeekadmrl: the black thingy at the bottom?07:58
admrlthe whole thing..?07:59
robotgeekadmrl: can i have a link to your screenie again?07:59
admrlhttp://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png08:00
admrlthere you are08:00
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, yes. what's the dark black shiny thing at the bottom :)08:01
admrlhaha08:01
admrlalrighty08:01
admrlyou need to right click on it and click configure panel08:01
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, so make it black and transparent?08:02
admrlget a nice fancy picture from kde-look.org or make it yourself and then you cand go to appearance and enable background image08:02
admrlyou neeed to use a background image08:02
admrlits not a color08:02
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, sounds like too much work for a background image. most of the time, i'm running a full screen console :)08:03
admrlthan colorize it to match the desktop color scheme08:03
admrlhaha08:03
admrlya you get the console people all pointing and clicking and they lose themselves08:03
gverig1Anybody familiar with setting multiple keyboard layouts? I added layout, set group shift Xkb options08:04
robotgeekadmrl: true, it's unfamiliar territory08:04
gverig1but I I try to switch and nothing works08:04
admrl;)08:04
admrlwe all where there once08:04
admrlhttp://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=32518&id=108:05
admrlalrighty now08:05
gverig1I can switch by clicking on the icon but no keyboard switches08:05
admrlrobotgeek: you go there unzip it08:05
admrland you put them in a folder and remember where they are08:05
robotgeekadmrl: thanks, konq automatically did it :)08:05
admrlyep i was going for that :D08:06
admrlbut now you just right click on your panel08:06
admrlconfigure panel08:06
robotgeekhmm, there08:06
admrlappearance> then put the location ofthe bar on the bottem of the window08:07
admrllocation of the image for the bar**08:07
robotgeekyup, done that. made panel image as background too08:07
admrl/home/derek/Desktop/My Pictures/panel.png08:07
admrlthats what mine looks like08:07
admrlyap then just apply08:07
admrland your good08:07
robotgeekdone. i need to undo what i did before :)08:07
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chakie_workanyone managed to use skype on breezy? on hoary i found no version that actually was installable (library dependency problems)08:08
robotgeekubotu: tell chakie_work about skype08:09
admrlhaha08:09
chakie_workrobotgeek: thanks08:09
chakie_workoo, a howto! nice08:09
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robotgeeknow, i need to make the thing visible. i have bad eyes, and a small screen08:09
DaSkreechGood night08:10
admrlalrighty robotgeek all you need to do is go to arrangement08:10
admrland you can make it thicker08:10
robotgeekadmrl: my desktop switching thing shows up ugly :)08:11
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robotgeekwell, fixed that08:11
admrlrobotgeek right click on it and you can make it transparent*08:12
robotgeekadmrl: yup, got it it08:12
admrl:D08:12
robotgeekadmrl: i can't put the start button? maybe i should change my theme or something, ikons maybe?08:13
robotgeekadmrl: when i am thru, it looks like i'm going to end up with a windows taskbar and a mac window :)08:13
admrlrobotgeek sudo apt-get install kbfx08:13
admrlhaha08:13
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, i'm on dapper, and i don't have that08:14
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admrlwould you be able to build from source..?08:16
robotgeekadmrl: sure :)08:16
admrldo you want a link..?08:17
robotgeekadmrl: what does it do?08:17
admrlits so you can use the start button08:17
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admrlit doesnt do much08:17
admrllol08:17
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admrlhttp://kde-look.org/content/pre1/31392-1.png08:17
admrlit can turn kmenu into this08:18
robotgeekadmrl: well, lemme get some beer then08:18
admrlrobotgeek: lol08:18
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, do you know of any OS X type dock things, other than smoothdock?08:19
admrlummm cooldock or something like that08:19
kkathmanrobotgeek: you dont like ksmoothdock?08:19
kkathmanrobotgeek: I used that exclusively now :)08:20
robotgeekkkathman: it crashed on me :(08:20
kkathmanREALLY?08:20
robotgeekkkathman: i compiled it, and it crashed on installation. segfault08:20
kkathmannow I compiled mine from the source08:20
kkathmannot from repos08:20
kkathmanbut its been very stable08:20
kkathmanit has a couple of graphical glitches now and again08:21
kkathmanbut functionally its been stable as a rock08:21
admrlrobotgeek i used to use it08:21
robotgeekkkathman: i got mine from sf.net08:21
admrlone***08:21
admrlbut i cant find it08:21
kkathmanrobotgeek:  me too.08:21
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admrlKXDocker..?08:22
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admrlyou can use karamba08:22
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, apt-get install ?08:22
kkathmanrobotgeek:  I tried a few of them08:22
kkathmankxdock is ok08:22
kkathmanrobotgeek: are you using it on dapper or breezy?08:22
robotgeekkkathman: dapper08:22
kkathmanahhh08:22
kkathmanwell08:22
admrli will get you the source robotgeek08:23
robotgeekadmrl: ty08:23
admrlhttp://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=10955&id=108:24
admrlthat is the kxdocker08:24
admrluho08:24
admrlyourgoing to have to look around08:24
robotgeekadmrl: okay, will do ty08:25
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admrlyep yep08:25
kkathmanI think maybe that alot of things wont mesh with dapper quite yet :)08:26
robotgeekyeah, with kde 4 and all08:26
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admrlrobotgeek: do you have superkaramba running yet08:28
robotgeekadmrl: no, not yet. in a minute08:29
admrlKXdocker isnt a superkaramba app08:29
kkathmanneither is ksmoothdock08:30
robotgeekadmrl: hmm, okay. no problems. i will try this thing out, i wanted to since a long time :)08:30
admrl:D08:31
robotgeekoh well, too much eye candy makes my head hurt.08:34
kkathmanlol08:34
admrlhaha i like your style robotgeek08:34
kkathmanimpossible to have TOO much eye candy :)08:34
kkathmanj/k08:35
robotgeeki'll stick with what i have got right now, customizing is for later08:35
kkathmanbut thats robotgeek he's 733+08:35
robotgeekkkathman: c'mon, i'm not leet08:35
Snake__lol GUIs are for wimps08:35
kkathmanlol yeah you are...you live in at the CLI08:35
kkathmanSnake__: CLI is for geeks08:36
kkathmanhence robotGEEK08:36
kkathmanhehe08:36
kkathmancourse we're all geeks on this bus I reckon08:36
Snake__admrl brings up a good point, its funny that robotgeek couldnt do that, but were sure he could rip the CLI to shreads08:36
robotgeekheh, yes. i find it quite difficult08:37
satemplerwhat is the module thats for IR08:37
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kkathmanSnake__: try designing a 3d model of an aileron at the CLI08:37
kkathmanhehe08:37
robotgeekkkathman: now, it's not impossible.08:38
robotgeekkkathman: but it might be stupid to do that08:38
satemplerany one08:38
Snake__kkathman: Hmmm something tells me that since I couldn't get a 2d jpg to display, im not gonna get that08:38
robotgeeksatempler: no clue08:38
robotgeekSnake__: it's all in your head :)08:38
Snake__robotgeek: how do you view images in a full CLI enviroment?08:39
robotgeekcatia/autocad come with scripting languages, so it is possible to do that.08:39
admrli agree with robotgeek its possible08:39
robotgeekSnake__: it might not be possible to view, but once you are that good. you probably don't need to :)08:39
Kaiser_Awayit is, yuou just need framebuffer stuff08:39
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Snake__Hey Hobbsee's back08:40
Hobbseehey Snake__08:40
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Hobbseei am indeed08:40
Hobbseeon breezy, at the moment08:40
Snake__Dont you have work or something?08:40
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Mr-Falkorfirefox crashes, and then I get this output: http://pastebin.com/47631708:42
callieTime for sleepies! night guys and thanks for the help admrl08:43
callie:D08:43
admrlyep anytime callie08:43
kkathmanahhh nighters callie :)08:43
Snake__Just remeber, reformating does not overwrite..08:43
Snake__in admrl theory08:43
robotgeekcallie: later08:43
Snake__:)08:43
callienight robotgeek08:43
callienight kkathman08:43
admrlhaha08:44
admrlthank you Snake08:44
Snake__:)08:44
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kkathmanI should prolly go to bed, have a doctor's appt tomorrow :(08:44
admrlso do i08:44
admrlbut doctors arnt fun and my computer is :D08:45
kkathmanadmrl: I have some sort of URI that needs antibiotics08:45
pinehello, how can I get skype working? It worked before, but not anymore after fresh install of kubuntu.08:45
pine./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:45
Tm_Tgood morning kids08:45
kkathmanhey Tm_T :)08:45
satemplerwhat is the module thats for IR08:45
satemplertrying to see if my cell phone will connect08:46
Tm_Tsatempler: lirc?08:47
satemplerthats what i though08:47
satemplert08:47
GoldBuggiepine: that file is from the  libpng12-0 package08:48
GoldBuggiepine: if you dont' have it installed to a sudo apt-get install libpng12-008:48
pineGoldBuggie: Yup, is installed an all. It's in /usr/lib/ - a symbolic link to libpng12.so.0.1.2.808:50
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pineI'm on a AMD64 system, does that have anything to do with it? I hav at least /usr/lib, /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib6408:52
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GoldBuggiehmmm...don't know how to make skype to force seeing it. I'm using skype every other day to call home, I dl the Dynamic binary tar.bz2 from skype.org08:52
GoldBuggieyou could try the static binary as well08:53
GoldBuggienot the best of help but it is a download,,,unzip..and run command thing so it goes quite fast08:53
pinesame thing with the static one =) the missing lib this time is: libXcursor.so.1 - also installed in /usr/lib08:55
GoldBuggiemaybe you coudl do a08:56
GoldBuggie"strace ./skype"08:56
GoldBuggiethat will spit out alot of08:56
GoldBuggieinformation08:56
GoldBuggiebut you can look to where08:56
GoldBuggieskype is searching for that file08:56
GoldBuggiethen put a link in that place pointint to the correct place08:57
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pinedunno... what does this mean: access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:06
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pinesame with ld.so.preload09:06
admrlalrighty everyone im heading out09:09
admrlgnight09:09
pinethe strange thing is that it really worked before. Straight out of the box - the dynamic version from skype.com09:09
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Snake__peace09:10
GoldBuggiehow about libpng12.so.0 or libXcursor.so.109:10
GoldBuggiecan you find the lines where thwy are opened09:10
GoldBuggiei whas thinking something like ("PATH/libpng12.so.0", F_OK)09:11
GoldBuggiethen you can see which path it looks in09:11
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pinethere's just too many of them =)09:11
pineeg open("/lib/tls/i686/sse2/cmov/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:11
GoldBuggieright09:12
pineor open("/lib/i486-linux-gnu/cmov/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:12
GoldBuggieone is enough09:12
GoldBuggieand do you have that file /lib/tls/i686/sse2/cmov/libpng12.so.0 ?09:13
pinewell, no. I'll try creating one of those09:13
GoldBuggiehmmmm....it all is a bit strange...mine lies under /usr/lib only and I have the i686 kernel09:14
GoldBuggiei'll do a strace on my skype09:15
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user_how come mplayer is not in the repository?09:16
robotgeekuser_: it's in universe09:16
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user_robotgeek: i'm very sorry but i'm really new at ubuntu, debian for that matter09:16
user_robotgeek: how do i access universe, can i do that using adept?09:17
robotgeekhmm, yes09:17
robotgeekubotu: tell user_ about repos09:17
robotgeekread that link, it will tell you how to add repos09:17
pineI created this: /usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 which was in the strace output too. But it won't work.09:18
GoldBuggieyou had a amd 64 ?09:19
pineyeah09:20
GoldBuggieok09:20
GoldBuggiefound something on the homepage saying that09:20
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GoldBuggieyou must run it thrue 32 emulation09:20
GoldBuggiehere is link09:20
GoldBuggiehttp://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=1012509:20
user_robotgeek: thanks a lot!09:21
robotgeekuser_: sure, no problem09:21
pinegreat, thanks for that info. Why it worked before remains a mystery. Didn't do anything different this time around09:22
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pineneed to run. I'll try on myown from here. Thanks again GoldBuggie for your help09:25
GoldBuggienp09:25
user_robotgeek: mplayer still doesn't show up even after i added the repository and fetched updates...09:27
user_robotgeek: is there anything else i should do??09:28
robotgeekuser_: apt-cache search mplayer09:28
robotgeekuser_: one second09:28
robotgeekuser_: did you enable multiverse?09:29
user_robotgeek: the only multiverse that i see is titled breezy-backports09:30
user_is that the one?09:30
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robotgeekuser_: no, in main09:30
user_robotgeek: oh, hmm urr, maybe i'm looking at something different, i'm looking at adept program's manage repository section09:32
robotgeekuser_: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse09:32
robotgeekuser_: okay, lemme look into adept09:32
robotgeekuser_: add that as a new repository in Adept -> Manage Respositories09:34
user_oh ok, that's how you add it ;)09:35
robotgeekuser_: hmm, i am also new to kubuntu :)09:35
user_user_: i'm totally new to debian in general09:36
user_robotgeek: sooo gentoo-oriented..09:36
user_robotgeek: worked! thanks a lot09:36
robotgeekuser_: great, you'll love apt09:36
robotgeekuser_: ubuntu means "tired of compiling gentoo"09:37
user_i was starting to have a homesick for portage lol09:37
user_that's true, but that's probably the only downside, as far as i'm concerned09:37
robotgeekuser_: yup, everything is got it's own adv and disdv09:44
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user_robotgeek: now if i can find out a way to have nfs work nicely, and find out how to do s-video output, this would be a great media center...09:45
robotgeekuser_: i have no clue about those two, sorry09:46
robotgeekuser_: search on the wiki though09:46
user_robotgeek: it's ok, i've done both under gentoo, i'll figure it out ;) thanks for the help again09:46
robotgeekuser_: no problem09:46
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orugohey10:02
orugoi need help10:02
orugoi have a nvidia card10:02
orugowith the gforce chip10:02
orugohow can i make it work?10:02
orugois the fx550010:02
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's wrong with it?10:02
orugoi think that its not working good10:03
orugoi have 128mb card10:03
orugoand the TUXRACER is slow10:03
Kamping_Kaiser!tell orugo about nvidia10:04
Kamping_Kaisernot sure that swhat i wanted actualy10:04
Kamping_Kaiserorugo: look at that wiki link and try that10:05
orugotks!10:07
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hendywhat is the best ssl and its opensource :) i want to used it for apache webserver, can someone suggest me..10:25
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MrMazdahttp://www.seagatemaxtor.com/10:26
legoutHI. is there a howto for upgrading breezy to flight2??10:27
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aftertaf:)10:30
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hendyand, how can i can be root using "su" command, so i dont need type "sudo something" to get root access?10:32
Hobbseesudo -s10:33
Hobbsee!+root10:33
ubotu[root]  disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:33
hendyoh, thanks :)10:35
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treakathhey all11:00
Hobbseehi treakath11:00
Kaiser_Awayhi treakath11:00
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treakathhey11:01
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ZambbaWhat's wrong with my PC? My kdm and KDE 3.5 are very laggy (it takes some time for mouse cursor to move on screen, a.k.a. lag)11:03
HobbseeZambba: system specs?11:03
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ZambbaI have 1 GHz PC with 384 MB of RAM.11:03
Hobbseeyou might be wanting to try xfce/xubuntu...11:04
Kaiser_Awaysif11:04
Kaiser_Awaythat box should not lag11:04
Hobbseeah ok11:04
Hobbseewell, that was one solution, i'll be quiet lol - couldnt remember what the minimum specs were11:05
Zambbaehmm11:05
jpatrickCertainly not 128MB RAM like mine11:05
Kaiser_AwayZambba: it may be because 3.5 is still under develpement11:05
Zambbamy hard disk which has /usr is old and slow11:05
jpatrickchange it11:06
Zambbabut it should only longen the loading times, not lag all time11:06
ZambbaI think11:06
Kaiser_Awaydoes it keep laging after it's loaded? or only while KDE loads?11:06
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Zambbahmm.. now only mouse lags. When I open some menu it opens quickly and operating from keyboard is fast, only mouse usage is slow11:07
treakathhobbsee and kaiser have you got msn?11:08
Kaiser_Awaytreakath: yeh. got Jabber as well.11:09
treakathyou want my msn add11:09
Hobbseewhy not talk in here?11:09
Kaiser_Awayyeh, would be cool :)11:10
treakathits antonne_de_graaf@hotmail.com11:10
treakathcause depends where i wanta chat at the time11:11
treakathadd me people that have msn and wanta talk11:13
treakathkk11:13
Kaiser_Awayjust a minute treakath11:13
treakathokayy11:13
jpatrickif I have to chat i do it though /notice11:14
jpatricktreakath: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick11:15
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jpatrickjabber is the best11:16
Kaiser_Awayyeh11:16
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treakathtalk to you people on msn later ok bye11:18
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jpatrickHobbsee: welcome to the Kubuntu Team (didn't see you join eariler now :) )11:26
Hobbsee:)11:26
Hobbseeyeah, joined a few days ago :)11:27
Hobbseei had a semi made package of asciiquarium, and it's just sitting there cos i havent had the energy to go and fix it :P - and to write the rest of the documentation for it11:28
jpatrickI've made a few packages - see my wiki page for whole list11:28
Hobbsee*nods*11:31
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cvt|kubuntueverything looks a little blurry. do you know how to fix that?11:53
ninnghizidhaHello!11:53
Hobbseehi ninnghizidha11:55
Hobbseecvt|kubuntu: the fonts, or everything of everything?11:55
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Hobbsee!+ask11:55
ubotuit has been said that ask is Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html11:55
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cvt|kubuntueverything. and everything's a little too big, Hobbsee11:56
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ninnghizidhaKonqueror doenst draw the previews any more. It worked the other day, even the "folders reflect contents". But now, i cant get it working again.11:58
Hobbseeninnghizidha: view, preview, make sure all the boxes are checked?11:58
ninnghizidhaall boxes are checked.11:59
Hobbseehmmm12:00
Hobbsee*looks around for more options*12:00
ninnghizidhanew info: the previews work fine, if i click a folde ron my desktop...12:00
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ninnghizidha... but they dont work, if i start konquerer from the tasklist12:00
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ninnghizidhadoubleclicking at a desktopfolder: konqueror shows previews.12:02
ninnghizidhasystemmen - home folder: No previews at all12:02
Hobbseehmmm12:03
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Riddellfreeflying_: yesterday's CD didn't work, linux modules weren't on it12:04
freeflying_Riddell: today's dosen't work too12:05
ninnghizidhaat "system:/home" there are no previews, at "/home/ninn" there are previews12:05
ninnghizidhaits wierd12:07
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ninnghizidhagot it, HA!12:10
ninnghizidha:-)12:10
ninnghizidhathe solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9734312:13
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ninnghizidhathe other question is about views in konqueror....12:14
ninnghizidha... i dont know how to shitch profiles and how to use them ...12:15
Hobbseeninnghizidha: view, view mode, pick one?12:16
ninnghizidhaoh, thats views ... i was talking about the "profiles"12:17
ninnghizidhaor "view profiles"12:17
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ninnghizidhathere is a filemanager-profile, a web-profile, a midnight-comander-profile ...12:18
jpatrickninnghizidha: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror12:19
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ninnghizidhai'll have look, thanks for the hint :-)12:19
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cvt|kubuntuwhat do i search for in kynaptic to get java?12:24
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Hobbsee!javadebs12:31
ubotuI heard javadebs is Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb12:31
Hobbseecvt|kubuntu: ^12:31
cvt|kubuntuthxx12:32
Hobbseeno problems12:32
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ninnghizidhamy Konsole doesnt show any colors.12:33
ninnghizidhaits just black12:34
ninnghizidhahow can i fix that?12:34
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ninnghizidhai want to see my iles and folders colored12:34
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GoldBuggiekate .bashrc ... then go to the lines mentioning PS112:35
GoldBuggieyou will see some comments mentioning what you need to uncommment to get color12:35
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ninnghizidhabashrc seems blank except an import of the .gtkrc-2.0-file12:36
ninnghizidhaand this file just holds some font-information12:38
GoldBuggieok enter this into ".bashrc"12:38
GoldBuggiealias ls='ls --color=auto'12:38
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GoldBuggiethat can help ls12:39
GoldBuggiehmm12:39
GoldBuggiewait let me check some things12:39
ninnghizidhaoh, this alias works :-)12:39
GoldBuggieok12:40
ninnghizidhathanks a lot :-)12:40
GoldBuggienp12:40
ninnghizidhawhat does rc stand for? its nearly everywhere ...12:41
GoldBuggieif12:41
GoldBuggieyou want to change and get a cool looking prompt12:41
GoldBuggieenter the following into .bashrc12:41
GoldBuggiePS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '12:42
GoldBuggiethis is the one i use12:42
ninnghizidhafunny! ill try it!12:42
GoldBuggieyou can fiddle with the numbers to change colors12:42
ninnghizidhathats nice ... thanks a lot :-)12:43
GoldBuggienp that all there is12:43
GoldBuggieno more coloring that i can think of12:43
ninnghizidhathats perfect!12:43
ninnghizidha:-)12:43
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mth`MAWMoin12:52
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ninnghizidhaKopete sends "&quote;" instead of " to other instant messengers01:08
ninnghizidhaanyone knows how to fix that?01:08
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nxv__hi01:31
DeepBlueGhosthi01:31
nxv__since i switched to dapper auto dhcp at bootup doesn't work any more. /etc/network/interfaces still looks good to me. have to run sudo dhclient [eth0]  manual after bootup01:32
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DeepBlueGhostI'm using breezy.  Dapper doesn't work well on this machine.01:33
_mefhi! can someone tell me how to locate the "kde-wizard" that normally starts after the first login to kde??01:34
_mefor isn't this part of kde 3.4.3 anymore?01:35
apokryphos_mef: you're not running 3.5?01:35
_mefstill running 3.4.3, which was part of my bbadger 5.1001:36
apokryphos_mef: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:36
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_mefok i'll install it ... anyways i think this willl not solve my "problem"01:37
apokryphos_mef: once you've upgraded, install kpersonalizer and run it01:37
apokryphosthat's the first-start kde wizard01:38
_mefooooh i see01:38
_mefbig thx!01:38
_mefthats what ive been searchin for01:38
ninnghizidhaThe "volume up" and "volume down" keys work, and i can see the volume-meter, but sound itself doesnt go up or down ...01:38
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ninnghizidhakde offers a a million options01:41
apokryphosbeautiful, isn't it? ;-)01:41
ninnghizidhahehe ... sure ... :-)01:43
aftertaf!merryxmas01:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, merryxmas is Merry Christmas to you too, and a happy new year :)    (hic) Another sherry ?01:43
ninnghizidhamy volumekeys are not linked to first soundcard, not my second one ... anyone knows how to fix that?01:45
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DeepBlueGhosthello I want to upgrade to KDE 3.5, but synaptic says that  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main01:55
DeepBlueGhost is not a valid source.01:55
DeepBlueGhostany ideas?01:56
apokryphosDeepBlueGhost: you're meant to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list01:56
apokryphosif you want to put it into synaptic you'd have to enter it differently01:56
DeepBlueGhostI put it in sources.list...01:57
aftertafDeepBlueGhost:  pastebin your sources.list then01:57
DeepBlueGhostwill do...01:57
aftertaf;)01:57
djk_apokryphos: why doesn't kubuntu use KOffice instead of OOo?01:58
apokryphosKOffice needs work01:59
djk_work?01:59
DeepBlueGhostok, here it is...http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47654101:59
apokryphos(which it's actually getting as of late -- very nice to see. Getting attention; the office suite is/was unfortunately quite lacking)01:59
DeepBlueGhostyou can blame arnie for a lot of the sources.01:59
apokryphosDeepBlueGhost: sudo apt-get update        ......any errors?01:59
apokryphosdjk_: yup. Kubuntu always has the latest Koffice packs though02:00
apokryphos(also, on that note, latest dot story: http://dot.kde.org/1135283071/ )02:00
ninnghizidhathere is nothing like file-"emblems" in kde?02:01
DeepBlueGhostdoesn't look like there are errors.02:01
apokryphoshuh?02:01
apokryphosDeepBlueGhost: if there's nothing saying "error" then it took the source just fine02:01
apokryphosDeepBlueGhost: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, and then just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:02
djk_why would he need kubuntu-desktop?02:02
DeepBlueGhostI do.  OK, here goes.02:02
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apokryphosdjk_: general practice before dist-upgrades, but this way he'd get all the recommended packs with/for 3.502:03
DeepBlueGhostyep, get a big long list of them.02:03
DeepBlueGhost92 upgrade, 10 new 6 remove and 0 not upgraded.02:04
ninnghizidhacan i tint just the folder-icon?02:05
DeepBlueGhostthanks... it's updating now.  Gonna take a while...02:06
DeepBlueGhostI got errors... /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2_i386.deb won't install02:15
DeepBlueGhostoh, see other error.  kdepim is trying to overwrite libkcal2a02:16
DeepBlueGhostvery interesting.02:16
DeepBlueGhostany clues to now what?02:17
DeepBlueGhostit seems that everyone disappeared.02:19
DeepBlueGhostI'll see what I can do about this... hmm, reboot and see what I get?  Nah, just reset X.  Bye...02:20
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muzzlehi02:40
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muzzlehow do I install Wine?02:40
muzzlesudo apt-get install wine, doesn't do it. It says there are no packages to install...02:40
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muzzleor how do I enable universe packages?02:42
Kiboumuzzle: check out http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for the latest wine02:43
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Riddellmuzzle: in adept right click on the universe line and choose enable02:54
Riddellwine is in universe02:54
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VincentMXhi03:13
raphinkhi VincentMX03:14
GoldBuggiehmmm I'm reading something about journal_data_writeback. Does anyone know if this is enabled in kubuntu and if not why not?03:14
raphinkwhat is that about GoldBuggie ?03:15
GoldBuggiewell to quote the man page03:16
raphinkhmmm03:16
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GoldBuggie When  the  filesystem is mounted with journalling enabled, data may be written into the main filesystem after its03:16
GoldBuggie metadata has been committed to the journal.  This may increase throughput, however, it  may  allow  old  data  to03:16
GoldBuggie  appear in files after a crash and journal recovery.03:16
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GoldBuggieseems to be able to increase performance03:17
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GoldBuggiereiser uses it by default03:17
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GoldBuggiehmmm...time to do some testing I think03:19
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mefiXhi!03:20
revwhere can I set the DPI X should use for my display? I changed the driver from "ati" to "fglrx" and now all fonts are supersized... KDE infocenter reports 129 dpi03:20
GoldBuggiedo you know Riddell?03:20
mefiXhow can i install kde 3.5 on my breezy badger version the fastest way?03:20
GoldBuggieaaah those questions I can answer03:20
GoldBuggiejust add the repository for 3.503:21
mefiXk, then?03:21
GoldBuggiewww.kubuntu.org has a link directly to the page that shows which link it is03:21
mefiX^^means /etc/apt/sources.list?03:22
GoldBuggieyes03:22
GoldBuggieadd03:22
RiddellGoldBuggie: hmm?03:22
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RiddellDPI is set by kdm trying to ask your monitor what to use.  it doesn't always work03:22
GoldBuggieI wanted to know if03:23
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revcan I override this?03:23
sealnehas anyone tried to use digikam with a camera that presents itsself as usb storage?03:23
GoldBuggiejournal_data_writeback03:23
GoldBuggieis03:23
GoldBuggieenabled by default in kubuntu03:23
sealnei can't seem to work out how to get digikam to talk to it03:23
GoldBuggiei looked it up thrue tune2fs and it seems like a good thing03:23
GoldBuggieand reiser fs uses it as default03:24
mefiXok i have to add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to my /etc/apt/sources.list ???03:24
mefiXthat be enough?03:24
jpatrickmefiX: yes03:24
mefiXk have this03:25
mefiXis "apt-get update" necessary?03:25
jpatrickmefiX: yes03:25
mefiXk, done03:26
mefiXthen "apt-get install kde"?03:26
revRiddell: can you tell me how to override the DPI settings?03:26
jpatrickmefiX: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:26
GoldBuggiemefiX: you can change dp either by going to /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:26
GoldBuggieand add03:26
GoldBuggieDisplaySize  27020303:26
GoldBuggieto your03:26
GoldBuggiemonitor section03:27
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revokay thanks :)03:28
GoldBuggieeeh...i didn't get to tell the other method :P03:29
GoldBuggiecouldn't remember the file though where X stars03:29
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GoldBuggieother method to change dpi is to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and add -dpi 96 to the ServerArgsLocal03:36
GoldBuggiei don't know which one is better then the other03:36
revGoldBuggie: yup I did that kdmrc thingy03:37
GoldBuggieright03:37
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GoldBuggiepersonally i like dpi 108 makes just the right font size for my laptop03:38
revnow I have another problem... "locate" segfaults everytime :D03:38
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osh_What's the "gam_server"?03:45
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chris_ok folks, I have a rpoblem03:46
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chris_I have no net connection on my machine, and I want to play mp3s03:47
chris_where can I download copies of akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad03:47
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hussamdo I need mailx or just postfix?03:53
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chris_sometimes you forget how essential a net connection is to run linux distros04:01
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hussamchris_: indeed, you can get by without internet on windows but not on linux.04:06
chris_any tips on how/where to get akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad?04:07
jpatrickchris_: http://packages.ubuntu.com04:07
jpatrickor though apt04:07
chris_jpatrick: apt is a no go, I've no net connection on the box I'm using04:08
jpatrickdownload the pkgs from the website then04:09
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LacertaGood evening everyone.04:51
LacertaHow come kubuntu wouldn't start when i switched my HD from slave to master?04:52
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slow-motionhallo04:53
Lacertayo04:53
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jjessehow do i tell easily how much space i have left?05:04
jjessecommand line way?05:04
Kaiser_AwayLacerta: because the hdd is looking for hdb to boot, but it's booting hda05:04
Kaiser_Awayjjesse: df -h05:04
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LacertaKaiser_Away: I installed Kubuntu to the slave while no master was present. Now i would like to add another HD. How can i fix this?05:07
Kaiser_AwayLacerta: sorry, it's 2:38 AM here and i just got home, i need to go to sleep. try asking in ubuntu (as it's a boot question), or hope someone here can answer05:07
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LacertaKaiser_Schlafen: Ok, good night to you :)05:08
Kaiser_Schlafenthanks :) good luck05:08
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roconnorI learned today that the CPU speed on my laptop doesn't throttle up for niced process. ... What a nice feature!05:09
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mvvdoes someone has a dos_bootfloppy.img maybe? I have to flash my BIOS :cry:05:14
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admrlhowdie everyone! anything exciting going on05:23
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Yanhello:)05:24
Yananyone alive?05:24
mushroomhello:P05:24
mushroomyeah .me alive05:24
Yansup|?05:24
Yan:))05:24
mushroomyep05:24
mushroom:P05:24
YanI have a question05:24
Yani have installed ubuntu05:24
admrlim alive im alive05:24
mushroommushroom@ubuntu:~$ uname -a05:24
mushroomLinux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:24
admrlYan: ubuntu..?05:24
Yanand noe i have done: 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'05:25
Yannoe=now*05:25
admrlalrighty05:25
Yanit downloaded and installed every thing05:25
Yanbut how do i run the kde?05:25
mushroomevery thing that kubuntu-desktop needed05:25
Yanhow do i star the service?05:26
Yanstart*05:26
admrlYan: thru gdm..?05:26
admrlor kdm*05:26
Yanno the second one:S05:26
admrlare you in gnome now..?05:26
jpatrickYan: choose a KDE session in GDM/KDM05:26
Yankdm05:26
mushroomvia session05:26
Yan:|05:26
admrlYan if you are in gnome05:26
mushroomclick the gdm 's session link05:26
Yanwhere:|05:27
admrlyou can start a new session05:27
Yanhow?? i dun understant u| i am a newbie05:27
admrlin gnome05:27
admrllol05:27
Yanto reboot the computer?05:27
admrlyou dont need to05:27
jpatrickYan: log out05:27
Yanwhat is a new session|?05:27
Yano..05:27
Yan:)05:27
Yanok05:27
admrlye05:27
admrlyes05:27
Yan10x ill be bak ;)05:28
Yanback*05:28
admrllol :)05:28
admrlthen go to session05:28
admrland pick kde05:28
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admrlas your default desktop environment05:28
Yanok 1 sec05:28
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yanyey!05:31
yan10x05:31
admrlhowd it go yan..?05:31
admrlhaha05:31
yan:)05:31
admrland now you can right click on your desktop05:31
admrland click start new session05:31
yanmy lovely kde:P05:31
admrland go back and forth between kde and gnome05:31
yanok05:31
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yani ve made kde as default05:31
admrlhave you ever used kde before..?05:32
yanyes on the other comp05:32
yanbut in suse05:32
admrlonly had kde installed on that..?05:32
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yanyes05:32
yanas a default05:32
yani dont like GNOME..05:32
mushroomaha~i like the GNOME very very much05:34
admrli dont like gnome either05:34
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yan:)05:34
mushroomit just like the conviction05:35
yan=\05:35
mushroom;)))05:35
nickmustoequick question, just downloaded kubuntu 5.1 live for powerpc and before I burnt it I was wondering if there were any settings I needed to change to have my powerbook check my optical drive before hard drive.05:36
yanwhat irc client do u use? X chat?05:36
mushroomkonversation?05:36
mushroomyou just say you like KDE,why not use konversation?05:36
admrlyan use whatever feels the most confortable05:36
admrlin05:36
admrli use xchat05:37
mushroomagree05:37
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admrlif im feeling risky i will use bitchx05:37
admrllol05:37
yani know only Xchat i have never used anything else:))05:37
admrlbut i feel more comfortable with xchat05:37
admrlthan use xchat05:37
yanin KDE how do install laguage pack?05:38
mushroomwhy not use synaptic to search05:38
yanin gnome my menu was in russin but in kde the kmenu is n english how can i change it?05:39
yano synaptic:)05:39
CoronaLVRhi guys, I have a problem here and I am asking for your help, I just installed flight 2 and trying to dist-upgrade but it fails on locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb...05:39
mushroomsorry for I have no idea.:(05:40
admrli dont either CoronalVR i havnt tried flight yet05:40
CoronaLVRok, another question, how can I tell apt to skip that package05:40
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mushroom;O05:41
mushroomIt's too hard for me to.....doooooooo05:41
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admrlapt-to skip flight in the dist-upgrade05:41
mushroomhow to do that?can you describe it ? admrl05:42
FoodcomanMorning05:42
mushroomFoodcoman: moring is good lol05:43
Foodcoman=)05:43
mushroomsorry moring =morning05:43
admrli was asking if thats what CoronaLVR meant05:43
admrlfrom what i understand if dist-upgrade it upgrades all the packages mentioned in a list on the repository05:44
CoronaLVRadmrl: I whant apt tp dist-upgrade but skip one package05:44
admrlCoronaLVR: read the man pages for apt-get05:45
admrlCoronaLVR: man apt-get05:45
mushroomI think synaptic can do that05:45
admrlive never tried a dist-upgrade in synaptic i do everything from the command line but i dont think it is possible05:46
admrlfrom the commandline05:47
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mushroommaybe or not~05:47
admrldist upgrade in synaptic im assuming would give you the chance to go thru and deselect any package you dont want05:47
admrlyes dont hold me to that CoronaLVR05:47
mushroomthings change ,peoples change05:47
admrlbut i need to go do dishes i will be right back05:47
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mushroomdo dishes?? admrl :what's the meaning?05:48
jpatrickmushroom: wash the dishes05:51
mushroom....thankyou jpatrick05:52
jpatrickno problem05:52
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simluhello05:56
bhnahi05:57
admrlmushroom: wash dishes :D05:58
admrlbut im back05:58
mushroomlol it's my first time to seen such style of the words05:59
admrllol where are you from mushroom05:59
admrlwhat country06:00
mushroom:) ShangHai China06:00
mushroomand you?06:00
admrlim from the states06:00
mushroomUS?06:00
admrlyes yes06:01
admrlsorry06:01
mushroomaha~~~06:01
admrlya the united states06:01
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mushroomdont mention it~you r using ubuntu of 5.10?06:01
admrlyep yep06:02
admrli started using ubuntu at hoary last ummm around march or so06:02
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admrlmade the switch from fedora06:02
admrlnever went back to a distro using the redhat package manager06:03
mushroomyeah~=) fedora is the distro I also using06:03
admrlya i hate rpm, debian is SOOOOOOOOO much better06:04
mushroomutil using the ubuntu/debian ,I feel I cant leave the ubuntu/debian & apt06:04
admrlhaha06:04
mushroomkeke~06:04
admrlya thats how im feeling06:04
admrlive been wanting to try opensuse but im forcing myself not to06:05
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mushroomah~Using ubuntu like the relaxing myself06:05
mushroomhah06:05
mushroomlol06:05
admrlhaha] 06:05
mushroomubuntu 's  occupy your PC06:06
mushroomoccupied06:06
admrlyep yep06:06
admrldo you ever use tuxmachines.org06:06
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admrlis there anyone on here that goes to tuxmachines.org06:07
admrlfor news06:07
mushroomexcuse me ,what's  that?web site?or distro?06:07
admrlwebsite06:07
mushroomokey~I 'll see it06:07
admrlit gets news from a TON of sources and updates 2 or 3 times a day06:07
mushroomwow.it's neat06:07
admrlya i check it allt he time06:08
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sproingiegolly, microsoft rumored to have bought opera...06:08
admrland it has rss feeds06:08
sproingiei guess it aggregates, not fact-checks06:08
admrlsproingie: where did you find that..?06:08
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sproingieadmrl: on the front page.  it's patently nonsense of course06:08
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admrloh i havnt gotten down that far06:09
sproingiein fact there seems to be more microsoft news than linux06:09
sproingiei always liked lwn06:09
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admrlhaha ya it usually has things about whats going on with microsoft06:09
admrloswars :D06:09
sproingiepass.  i run whatever gets my job done06:10
sproingiei'm mostly getting back into java anyway so it's all about the same to me06:10
mushroomyep.that's also my approach06:10
pc3anyone help06:10
sproingiepc3: just ask06:10
mushroomseeign06:10
admrlhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/4177 i thought this was interesting 2.4 million dollars a day06:11
mushroom:O06:11
pc3i'm trying to install cedega 4.2.1.rpm but I seem to be doing something wrong06:12
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admrlpc3: id suggest finding the shell script for installing06:12
admrlit06:12
mushroomwhy not using deb package06:12
sproingiecedega offers a .deb, no?06:12
McScruffi have vmware installed, and went to add a parrallel port but ubuntu isnt detecting it, is there any reason why this is06:13
pc3it depends on libpng3, I installed it but it can't find it06:13
sproingieMcScruff: stupid question ... did you reboot your image after adding the port?06:13
mushroomapt-cache search libpng306:13
sproingiemy question being stupid that is :)06:13
pc3I'm installing it with deb file06:13
admrlwell now pc3 your going to need to find where its looking for libpng3 and install it to that directory06:13
McScruffsproinge, u cant change settings while image is on :)06:14
sproingieMcScruff: oh, didn't know that.  been a while since i've used vmware06:14
McScruffsproinge, but when u add cdrom and FDD it shows the path of it and it dont for parrellel port06:14
sproingieMcScruff: try going into the bios setup in your image, see if it's been enabled06:14
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McScruffits b4 i boot the image06:15
McScruffin vmware settings Before i load any image06:15
sproingieyou mean vmware doesn't have a parallel port to add?06:15
sproingieoh, you want to add the actual physical parallel port06:15
sproingie*smack* ... doesn't make much sense to have a virtual one06:16
neoncodeamaroK won't work on my computer... When I launch it, it shows the the amaroK splash image then it shows up in the system tray then closes...06:16
pc3how do I find out where its looking for libpng3?06:16
McScruffit does, i add it then it links to my physical parrallel port but it cant find my phsyical one06:16
sproingieMcScruff: can linux normally find it, i.e. can you print?06:16
mushroomneoncode: I 'am also using the amarok06:16
McScruffon a diff distro i have used the parrellel port06:16
McScruff:)06:16
neoncodemushroom: Does your's work?06:16
pc3admrl:  how do I find out where its looking for libpng3?06:17
sproingiepossibly ubuntu has problems with it.  get it working locally first06:17
mushroomneoncode: yeah works well06:17
neoncodemushroom: Do you have KDE 3.5?06:17
sproingiepc3: if you're installing from a deb, it's probably looking for a libpng3 deb06:17
sproingiei didn't even know there was a libpng306:17
mushroomneoncode: no,I have kde 3.4.306:17
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sproingiealas, there it is.06:17
sproingiepc3: sudo apt-get install libpng306:18
neoncodemushroom: That might be it... does anyone else have amarok in KDE 3.5?06:18
mushroomneoncode: and my amarok'e version is 1 .3.606:18
pc3E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:18
pc3E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:18
admrlmushroom yes i have am arok06:19
admrlamarok06:19
mushroomadmrl: with kde3.5?06:19
admrlyes06:19
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admrlbut i need to go take my little brother to my grandmas i will be back in a second06:19
mushroomadmrl: maybe you can help neoncode06:20
McScruffsproinge, i cant test it locally as i have nothing to test it with06:20
admrli have to go for like 10 minutes06:20
mushroomadmrl: hah06:20
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neoncodeI have the repo version of amarok... Ahh oh well...06:20
jpatrickneoncode: amarok doesn't come with KDE06:20
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neoncodejpatrick: KDE 3.5 is not the problem then...06:21
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jpatrickno06:21
mushroomneoncode: what's the mainly problem?06:21
neoncodemushroom: It opens displays it's splash screen, appears in the system tray then closes.06:22
jpatrickneoncode: have you seen: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php ?06:22
neoncodejpatrick: Nope, this might be it.06:22
pc3admrl: is there a command that checks the dependancies for CEDEGA06:23
mushroomneoncode: run amarok in command line mode and then you'll get the error code06:24
neoncodemushroom: I'm half way though the 1.3.7 upgrade...#06:24
mushroomneoncode: faint06:24
mushroomneoncode: then I have no idea ....:(06:25
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jpatrickI'm off06:30
Robdorwhere do I find my public ssh key?06:39
osh_Robdor: ~/.ssh/06:39
RobdorI only have the file known_hosts is it in that?06:40
osh_Robdor: have you generated a key then?06:42
Robdorosh_:  I thought I had a while ago, but I guess I didn't...06:43
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aballek_hello06:43
osh_Robdor: afaik it should be located in .ssh. I'm not at my work-comp now but I'm pretty sure the file is in that dir.06:43
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Robdorosh_: thanks06:44
manveruguys, someone can help me with a heavy apt-get/dpkg problem?06:45
manveruwait a second, gathering some info to paste....06:45
sophie_hello all I have a question about krename06:45
osh_manveru: please make sure you use the pastebin-service.06:46
sophie_in breezy when installed very litle plugins are avalaiblre06:46
admrlpc3 if you installed amarok from source code you can do make depend i think06:46
manveruosh_: of course :)06:46
manveruand another thing - is seveas-repo down?06:47
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admrlcan anyone verify make depend..?06:51
manveruhowever, whenever i do a dpkg --configure -a #(wich is what dpkg tells me everytime i do an update or want to install something)06:54
manverumy dpkg hangs at gstreamer-plugins06:55
manveruthat means - at all of them06:55
manverui can ctrl+c through some of them, but it hangs up at another... is there some way i can deque them?06:55
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Ti_Uhlhello06:56
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manveruhey06:56
Ti_Uhlmy system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries06:57
Ti_Uhl:)06:57
Ti_Uhlbrb06:57
Ti_Uhli need to go to diner06:57
Ti_Uhl:)06:57
Ti_Uhlparents are yelling my ass of :)06:58
Ti_Uhlbrb06:58
Ti_Uhl:)06:58
manveruk06:58
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admrloh my x froze then vt1 froze and wouldnt let me change when i tried restarting gdm lol07:01
admrli had to restart07:01
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admrlmy box is having a problem with limewire everytime i start it it freezes07:05
Sneaky_Bastardlimewire has problems07:06
admrlya its seeming like it07:06
Sneaky_Bastardfreezes on startup even on Win-Blows07:06
admrli think its the java installed on my computer07:06
admrloh... hmmm07:06
Sneaky_Bastardwell, that's possible07:06
admrlim going to try it in enlightenment07:07
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Sneaky_Bastardcould be the moron author used windows-specific java "extensions"07:07
Sneaky_Bastarddunno07:07
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admrlsneaky_Bastard: lol07:07
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brokendreamshello07:08
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admrli dont know how it would be any different since im thinking limewire doesnt have any desktop ?intagration? and runs all on java07:09
admrlbut i might be wrong07:09
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brokendreamshello07:10
brokendreamsi need somehelp07:11
admrlbrokendreams: with what?07:12
brokendreamswhen i try to run AlienArena it alll seems to be going fine but then it says07:12
brokendreams./AlienArena: line 5: 19876 Bus error               ./crx +set game arena $*07:12
admrlis that a windows game you are running in wine or cedega..?07:12
brokendreamsand in the AA forums they said it was my sound drivers07:12
brokendreamsbut my sound works fine07:13
Sneaky_Bastardadmrl: if he developed using Micro$haft's JVM, instead of Sun's it could be screwed up.07:13
admrlSneaky_Bastard why would he do such a thing!?07:13
admrlbrokendreams: if your running it with wine or cedega i cant help im not a gamer07:14
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SAM_themanyo people07:15
SAM_themani need help07:15
SAM_themanmy sound an't working07:16
SAM_themanHelp!!07:16
admrlwhat sound card07:16
admrlSAM_theman you need to give us info07:16
SAM_themanhave no idea07:16
admrlwe cant just fix it for you07:16
SAM_themanok listen07:16
admrldoes any one know if cat /dev/*audiodevice* would give him any info on it..?07:17
kkathmanadmrl:  lspci might help07:17
pussfellerif it works in gnome, then its not the sound drivers, its the engine, arts, esd, alsa etc07:17
kkathmanif its external07:17
SAM_themani open xmms or Amarok and for amarok it says some gstreamer error07:17
SAM_themanbut on gnome it works Fine07:17
admrli didnt know there was an lspci i thought it was only lsusb07:17
admrlalrighty SAM_theman07:18
kkathmanSAM_theman: do you know if your sound card is on the motherboard, or do you have a separate card for it?07:18
admrlwhat id suggest is get a new engine for gstreamer07:18
admrlfor amarok07:18
admrl*(***07:18
kkathmanadmrl: yah maybe xine07:18
SAM_themanno its separte07:18
admrlinstead of gstreamer07:18
admrlsuch as xine07:18
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SAM_theman*separate07:18
admrlyes yes kkathman thats what i was thinking07:18
pussfelleryeah with amarok the preffered engine is xine07:19
pussfellerwell, with anything07:19
admrlsudo apt-get install amarok-xine07:19
bouncingWhen I try to play KEXP in Amorak, it just kind of flashes the visualization and doesn't do anything. thoughts? (http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls)07:19
admrlSAM_theman: try that07:19
admrlthen go to engine in the configuration and change the engine to xine07:19
admrli dont remember how to get to it07:19
pussfellergstreamer is still kinda cludgy07:19
admrli dont like gstreamer much07:20
admrlubuntu loves it tho07:20
pussfellerits a great idea07:20
admrlit doesnt love ubuntu ;)07:20
pussfellerbut it hasnt really gotten "there" yet07:20
SAM_themanits installing07:20
SAM_themani mean downloading07:20
bouncinganyone... streaming radio not working in amorak?07:20
SAM_themanbut but what about xmms ?07:20
pussfellerdont you need libmad0 with xine to play mp3s?07:20
bouncingxmms works great07:20
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SAM_themansee amarok works in Gnome and Xmms07:21
pussfelleri had to find a custom xine deb, but then I use the svn07:21
bouncingpussfeller: I have it. I can play mp3s fine, and actually, other internet radio stations, but something about their playlist doesn't jive07:21
admrlSAM_theman find a way to get xmms to use like alsasink or ossink just switch it07:21
admrland it should go fine07:21
SAM_themannow i get [GStreamer Error] 07:21
pussfellerSAM_theman: the source of your actual problem is that amarok was configured to have gstreamer use arts, or esd or something07:22
pussfelleror maybe even alsasink, and you needed ossink07:22
pussfelleri know this is a pain07:22
aballek_hi, How can I see my units in Konqueror07:23
admrlpussfeller thats why i went to xine07:23
SAM_themanok its working :D07:23
pussfellerif i was a gazilionaire, I would pay mad cash to get linux sound standardized07:23
admrlwhat do you mean units aballek_07:23
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SAM_themani put it to xine :D07:23
sophie_anyone know how to use krename configure plugins I only have 4 plugins07:23
aballek_admrl, my har drives07:23
aballek_hard07:23
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admrlblocks and such..?07:23
pussfelleri would bribe distros and devs around the world to work on one single solution07:23
admrli have no idea07:23
aballek_admrl,  the problem is that I sont have acces to the drives thru konqueror07:24
admrlpussfeller im in on that one with you :D07:24
admrlwhats it give you..?07:24
hugelmopfpussfeller: better two. i would never want to be without choice.07:24
admrlsay you dont have permission..?07:24
pussfellerwell lets get one choice working first and then try other ways07:24
SAM_themanhttp://pastebin.com/47684507:24
SAM_theman:C07:24
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admrlid gksudo konqueror and try doing it from there maybe..?07:25
admrlif that doesnt work come back07:25
hugelmopfSAM_theman: can i help with a problem or is somebody else trying to help you already?07:26
SAM_themanok guys let me ask you a question ok07:26
SAM_themanyou can if you want :D07:27
aballek_admrl, how should I do it?07:27
pussfellerSAM_theman: it sounds like another program is using the sound card07:27
SAM_themanNope07:27
pussfellerin linux, software mixing is still tricky07:27
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admrlaballek_ use konsole07:27
admrlsudo konqueror07:27
pussfellerlsof | grep /dev/dsp07:27
admrlyour password07:27
triodehello. How can I create a shared folder between two computers on a network?07:27
admrlthen media:/07:28
admrli think07:28
hugelmopfSAM_theman: if you are using KDE, then install "xmms-arts" and choose arts as audio-backend.07:28
pussfellertriode: nfs for linux to linux, samba for windows to linux07:28
admrltriode what are you planning on using..?07:28
triodelinux to linux07:28
SAM_themanHeres my question is there a way i can unistall kde and any application that deals with it everything that Deals with KDE and the folders that saves every thing that deals with it.I mean just no KDE so i can do a fresh install of it.I admit i was tweaking some stuff on it i07:29
triodeI have two laptops, I want to share some files thru my wireless lan07:29
admrlwouldnt ssh and fish:/ work just as well pussfeller07:29
hugelmopfSAM_theman: i assume your user is already in the audio group (the default user created during installation is in there.)07:29
pussfelleri never used that admrl07:29
triodepussfeller, Ill research 'nfs'07:29
admrlSAM_theman sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop..?07:29
hugelmopfSAM_theman: by tweaking, do you mean changing user settings, or really editing system files?07:29
admrlalrighty im no leet haxor so id go with nfs07:30
pussfellertriode: its in yer control panel under network/file sharing07:30
SAM_themani did then i installed it again and everything was still saves like KDE applications07:30
hugelmopfadmrl, SAM_theman : this won't remove kde, just the virtual package kubuntu-desktop07:30
SAM_themanwallpapers i downloaded everything even superKaramba07:30
admrllol hugelmopf im sorry i was just guessing07:30
aballek_admrl, but there in media:/ I cant see the units there, how can I link them to konqueror or somethig like that07:30
hugelmopfSAM_theman: if you did all this as user, you only need to "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old"07:30
pussfellerdoes kubuntu enable arts by default07:30
admrlim not the one to go to for that07:30
hugelmopfSAM_theman: one second07:31
pussfellermaybe arts is running07:31
admrlpussfeller no i dont think it does07:31
admrli thought i had to install arts07:31
pussfellerarts has gtg07:31
hugelmopfSAM_theman: you should logout first and do this on the console ("Ctrl-Alt-F1"), then switch back to X ("Ctrl-Alt-F7")07:31
SAM_themanBecuase i worked so hard on gnome that i don't want to reinstall ubuntu again (www.putfile.com/sammy2005)07:31
triodepussfeller: thanks!07:31
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pussfellernp07:32
SAM_themani want to like remove everything that deals with KDE Every thing07:32
SAM_themanxmms works now07:32
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Ti_Uhlmy system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries. The reason why i need the file is because i get configure errors when i try to build a qt app. It can't find X includes so i think i need to add /usr/X11R6/lib/includes07:33
aballek_admrl, thanks anyway I have to g now07:33
hugelmopfSAM_theman: as long as you did not edit any system files of KDE (in /usr/...), you only have to move your user settings out of the way, as described above. maybe additionally "mv ~/.superkaramba ~/.superkaramba_old"07:33
SAM_themani also have like a 2GB of all my songs07:33
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admrlsorry aballek_07:33
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aballek_it's not very important07:34
aballek_bye07:34
SAM_themanso when i install kubuntu again everything will be as new as an Hummer H3?07:34
hugelmopfSAM_theman: if you have any emails in kontact/kmail, they will also be moved out of the way by that, but you can copy them back.07:34
hugelmopfSAM_theman: are you even listening to me?07:34
triodepussfeller: all options are grayed out even when going in administrator mode? any idea on what I can do?07:34
SAM_themanyes07:34
SAM_themanmy dad was telling me somthing07:34
pussfellerhmm07:34
hugelmopfSAM_theman: i am talking and talking what you can do and you just ignore it.07:34
SAM_themanno no07:34
SAM_themani was reading as well07:34
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hugelmopfSAM_theman: read my last posts that start with your nick and you should be able to get your kde back to default settings.07:35
joshuahow do you run nmap and whats is it used for ??07:35
Ti_Uhlmy system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries. The reason why i need the file is because i get configure errors when i try to build a qt app. It can't find X includes so i think i need to add /usr/X11R6/lib/includes ? anyone ?07:35
triodepussfeller: I am in the Kubuntu system settings under the "sharing" menu07:35
sampan!xincludes07:35
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev07:35
sampanti_uhl  see ubotu's line ^^^07:36
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pussfellertriode: might have to do a sudo kcontrol07:36
pussfelleri hear sometimes the administrator mode in the kcontrol dont work all the time07:36
pussfelleror maybe you need to add a share first07:37
admrlyes pussfeller i agree07:37
admrlid try the sudo kcontrol07:37
Ti_Uhlthx ubotu07:37
Ti_Uhl:)07:37
Ti_Uhli'm installing them as we speak :)07:37
Ti_Uhlhopefully this will work :)07:38
SAM_themanhuge u there?07:38
hugelmopfSAM_theman: yes07:38
hugelmopfSAM_theman: if the steps above confused you, tell me. i can explain them a bit more in order, if you want.07:39
SAM_themansamuelp@BlackHawk:~$ sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop07:39
SAM_themanReading package lists... Done07:39
SAM_themanBuilding dependency tree... Done07:39
SAM_themanPackage kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed07:39
SAM_theman0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:39
Ti_Uhlubotu: now it's complaining about QT headers and libs07:39
Ti_Uhl:)07:39
ubotuTi_Uhl: I don't know, could you explain it?07:39
hugelmopfTi_Uhl: it is a bot.07:39
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Ti_Uhllol07:40
Ti_Uhl:)07:40
hugelmopf!qt07:40
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:40
hugelmopfTi_Uhl: ^^ try that one.07:40
SAM_themani unistalled that to07:41
pussfellereh when i right click on a mount on my desktop, i dont get the mount unmount menu07:41
pussfellerwhats up with that07:41
SAM_themani rember i need that to install some stuff for my compiling07:41
hugelmopfSAM_theman: ok, you do _not_ need to uninstall anything.07:41
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hugelmopfSAM_theman: most likely you will only have to remove your user-specific KDE-settings, to get it back to default.07:42
admrlenlightenment crashed im having the worst luck today07:42
SAM_themanhmm....07:42
admrlthrew me back into gdm07:42
SAM_themanbecause i sweard a few things up in KDe07:42
SAM_theman*screwed07:42
Ti_Uhl!kde07:42
ubotusomebody said kde was A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:42
SAM_themana whole lot of things07:42
Ti_Uhlnow i need the kde headers07:43
hugelmopfSAM_theman: but most likely you screwed them up as user, and not with sudo, right?07:43
Ti_Uhl:)07:43
SAM_themani think its because i am on KDE 3.507:43
triodepussfeller: how can I add a share?07:43
SAM_themanboth07:43
hugelmopf!kde-dev07:43
ubotuhugelmopf: Are you on ritalin?07:43
pussfellerah it somehow got off "use settings for media group"07:43
SAM_themanwehn i was on 3.4.3 never had any problem07:43
admrlubotu i am1!!!07:43
SAM_theman*when07:43
ubotuadmrl: Bugger all, i dunno07:43
pussfellertriode: click on Add over at the right07:43
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SAM_themandamn my mom got it firts07:44
admrli got my subscription renewed today more ritalin yay!07:44
SAM_theman*first07:44
admrlsam_theman:haha07:44
triodepussfeller: I'm sorry, where?07:44
hugelmopfTi_Uhl: try "sudo apt-get install kde-devel"07:45
SAM_themanwho here is on KDE 3.5?07:45
pussfelleron the right in the file sharing panel, towards the middle07:45
hugelmopfSAM_theman: you can always go back to 3.4.3 by removing the 3.5 line in /etc/apt/sources.list and then updating/upgrading07:46
admrlSAM_theman i am using kde 3.507:46
SAM_themanyeah thats what i am going to do my friend :D07:46
SAM_themanWHAT!!!07:46
admrlyes07:46
SAM_themanwell i try it one more time sinse huge told me what to do07:46
hugelmopfSAM_theman: but most likely that is not the reason for the problem. i am also running 3.507:46
admrlapt wont see kde 3.5but i think youd need to dist-upgrade07:47
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hugelmopfadmrl: yes, i think you are right.07:48
admrl:D07:48
admrlyes yes it does happen every once in awhile07:48
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SAM_themanahhh.... that felt better07:49
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admrlid say i get like 2 out of  ummm07:49
sanderAnyone here running dapper?07:49
admrl25 or so ;)07:49
leafwis there any way to stop the airport from powering up every time the computer wakes up ?07:49
admrlrobotgeek was last ngiht07:49
hugelmopfSAM_theman: logout, go to the controle (Ctrl-Alt-F1), login, "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old", "mv ~/.superkaramba ~/.superkaramba_old", go to X (Ctrl-Alt-F7), login ==> fresh KDE07:49
hugelmopf*console07:50
sanderI tried flight 2 and it was a little incomplete, I was wondering if it was better since r7 was released.07:50
hugelmopfSAM_theman: if this does not bring KDE back to default, you might want to reinstall or downgrade to 3.4.3, but try it first.07:50
triodepussfeller: Its still grayed out, maybe I don't have the required packages installed?07:50
SAM_themanroger07:50
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Flixor--join #digikam07:52
Flixor-sorry07:52
admrlflixor its a /*07:52
hugelmopfFlixor-: that was a european keyboard... ;-)07:53
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Flixor-ehm not realy hugelmopf07:53
Flixor-i am logged in to my box via nxclient07:53
admrllol lol07:53
Flixor-and the keyboard doesnt work good07:53
Flixor-dont know how to change it so it works good07:53
hugelmopfFlixor-: i see. just thought because where the / is on american keyboards, i have the - on my german one ;-)07:53
leafwanyone can run glxgears over an ssh -X session? Fails on me.07:54
Flixor-oke07:54
Flixor-where is tha @ on that keyboard hugelmopf07:54
hugelmopfAltGr - Q07:54
Flixor-on the american keyboard07:54
hugelmopfamerican is Shift-2 i believe?07:54
leafwyes, shift+207:55
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hugelmopfSAM_theman: you getting along? i have to go...07:57
SAM_themanok i am bacjk07:59
SAM_themani was making instant soup ok07:59
SAM_themanbye bye07:59
SAM_theman*back07:59
hugelmopfSAM_theman: good luck :)07:59
SAM_theman:07:59
SAM_themanD07:59
SAM_themanwere u go?08:00
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SAM_themansrry if i am talking liek a 4 year-old i am eating Hot sou[p08:00
rednaxelhow could I monitor the data being sent/received thru /dev/ttyS0 ?08:01
SAM_themanbrb08:01
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admrlrednaxel cat..?08:06
admrlcat /dev/ttys0..?08:06
Flixor-what is the command for ftp to upload directory's08:07
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leafwFlixor-: doesn't exist. Use "scp -r" instead08:07
leafwOr, you can try drang and drop of folders in konqueror.08:08
leafws/drang/drag08:08
Flixor-i am on the comamndline rigth now08:08
leafwso then scp -r myfolder login@server:~/wheever/08:08
Flixor-but thanks leafw08:09
Flixor-its working put -R08:09
leafwFlixor-: well, that '-R' may be very dependent on the particular ftp client you have08:09
Flixor-well i first tried -r08:10
Flixor-and then -R and the latest worked08:10
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joshuahello should i install Java runtime environment ?08:14
joshuai have been told its not safe08:14
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leafwjoshua: install it if you need it.08:15
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joshuais it safe?08:17
joshuathats what i want to know08:17
leafwjoshua08:17
leafwjava is needed to run many programs08:18
leafwif you don't have any program that needs it, then don't install it. That's all.08:18
joshuaheh08:18
leafwOTOH, the only unsafe java are applets over the internet, and these are very strictly regulated.08:18
joshuaregulated?08:18
joshuain what sense do you mean08:18
leafwapplets can't access your file system without your explicit permission and without a certificate.08:19
joshuaok08:19
leafwjava is unsafe for careless users who always answer "yes" or "ok".08:19
leafwwithour reading.08:19
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joshuado you know the command to get java runtime environment ?08:22
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leafwjoshua08:22
leafwread the manual08:22
rednaxelleafw: most users (standard users, not power users) just click without actually reading08:23
leafwon apt-get, or on kynaptic (hoary), or adept (breezy)08:23
leafwjoshua: just "give me the command" is what makes a computer (yours) unsafe.08:23
joshuathats true08:23
leafwjoshua: I could give you anything.08:23
leafwrednaxel: indeed.08:23
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angasulerednaxel: windows users (not their fault, really, but when you get asked the same question a million times...)08:24
rednaxelactually, the whole concept of Yes/No in a Dialog Box is flawed... the button label should have the verb, the action being done08:24
angasulerednaxel: agreed08:24
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angasulerednaxel: not to mention the yes/no/cancel/stop/maybe/nottodayIhaveaheadache dialogs08:25
rednaxelinstead of "Theres unsaved changes, save? (Yes/No/Cancel)" it should be "Theres unsaved changes. (Save/Discard/Do not exit)"08:25
rednaxelthree buttons tops08:26
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csdcsdcsdcone of my systems will not allow me to log in via ssh. It takes the password and after says "connection to X closed"08:26
csdcsdcsdcany idea?08:26
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leafwxClayG: don't ssh -X, just 'ssh' then.08:28
xClayGI am08:28
xClayGit accepts ssh from remote connections, but will not locally it looks like08:28
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xClayGwerid it works in xwindows /gnometerminal but not in any of my virtual servers08:30
xClayGconsoles i mean08:30
leafwyou are ssh'ing to the same computer? What for? Is it actually possible?08:33
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SAM_themanYES!!!08:36
SAM_themanit works08:36
SAM_themani did a fresh install08:36
SAM_themanSOund works everything working08:36
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AzmodanI'm looking for the file where I can change if my clock is based on GMT or not.  It is by default but Windows doesn't like it.08:38
MrMazdais there any short cut (easy way) to remove all the CJK font packages?08:40
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joakimwhere can I read up on automount in kubuntu. Have problem with my USB-memory08:42
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joshuahow can i check what version of firefox im running ?08:47
osh_joshua: in the location bar type "about:"08:48
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joshuaah thanks08:51
joshuai have 1.0.7 do you know if thats the latest version08:51
apacheloggerjoshua: 1.508:51
apacheloggerwww.mozilla.com08:51
osh_joshua: it's the latest one in kubuntu. if you want a later one go to www.mozilla.com and then some kubuntu-wiki to get it to work.08:52
joshuaok08:52
joshuaits ok to use 1.0.7 ?08:52
joshuaor i should upgrade ?08:52
osh_joshua: I do it. 1.5 is better though.08:52
joshuabecause i dont mind to keep this one if i dont have to change it08:52
joshuaok08:52
osh_I'm too lazy to fix mozilla 1.5. I'll just wait for the upgrade to kubuntu.08:53
osh_I'm trying to get the "python profile " module and it shows when I do a aptitude-search but not in adept. And when I do an aptitude install it just won't get any package. It's a virtual package if I understand the letters correctly.08:55
joshuaosh do you know a good virus scanner for kubuntu ?08:55
osh_sudo aptitude search python2.4-profiler08:56
osh_v   python2.4-profiler08:56
osh_It seems to be there. But if I just replace the "search" with "install" it won't get any package. What's up with thta.08:57
apacheloggerjoshua: virus scanner -> clamav08:57
joshuathanks08:57
osh_joshua: clamav08:57
sampanosh_  dunno what's up with that for you -- but sudo apt-get install python2.4-profiler worked for me08:58
sampan:/08:58
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joshuawhats the command to update clamav via the internet09:00
joshuai didnt really understand the instructions09:00
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apacheloggerjoshua: update it's virus database?09:01
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osh_hmm, atleast apt-get gives me an error to work with...09:02
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malkavianboni09:03
malkavianola retrasaos09:03
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joshuai got an error on installation09:04
joshuaits here09:04
joshuahttp://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/jonnyubuntu/error.png09:04
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apacheloggerjoshua: can't see the errors :P09:05
apacheloggersome depend problems09:05
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apacheloggerjoshua: what's the app right of klipper in systray?09:07
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sampan!pastebin09:08
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:08
sampanjoshua, when you get errors or need to paste some text for others to look at, you can use the "pastebin" (see ubotu's link)09:08
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sampanworks a little bit better than screenshots ;)09:09
joshuathe app to the right of klipper is firestarter my firewall09:10
apacheloggerah :)09:10
joshuaso i did /usr/bin/clamscam09:11
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apachelogger<<Infected files: 0>>09:11
apacheloggerdoh :(09:11
apacheloggerlife can be so boring09:12
joshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/608009:13
joshuathats what i got with /usr/bin/clamscan09:13
apacheloggerjoshua: run freshclam09:13
joshuaERROR: Can't parse the config file /etc/clamav/clamd.conf09:14
joshuathats what it returns09:14
apachelogger:|09:14
apacheloggerthat's not good09:14
apacheloggerjoshua: do you have this config file at all?09:14
joshuahow can i check09:15
joshuai got the package with adept09:15
joshuait installed a few things09:15
joshuabut there was an error too09:15
joshuaduring the install09:15
joshuawhich i showed earlier09:15
apacheloggerls /etc/clamav/clamd.conf09:15
apacheloggersome packages may be in conflict09:16
apacheloggerwhich causes them to not being installed09:16
joshuals: /etc/clamav/clamd.conf: No such file or directory09:16
apacheloggerwell09:16
apacheloggeryou're missing important packages :|09:16
joshuaso its not installed09:16
joshuaso should i remove09:16
joshuaand try reinstall?09:16
joshuaor maybe i can just get the pieces i need with adept09:17
apacheloggerinstall everything named clamav* just not -data09:18
apacheloggerthat may work09:18
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joshuaok09:18
joshuawhat do you mean 'just not data'09:18
apacheloggerthere is a package called "clamav-data"09:18
apacheloggerdon't install it09:19
joshuaah ok09:19
mz111I repeatedly change my dpi setting using gnome-control-center, but every time I log into kde, I end up with tiny fonts, what should I do?09:19
joshuayou see what that package says tho?09:19
joshuaits intereting09:19
joshuas*09:19
apacheloggermz111: you have to set it in kcontrol as well dude09:20
apacheloggerjoshua: what?09:20
mz111apachelogger: where can i change the dpi in kcontrol?09:20
joshuaapache: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/608109:21
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apacheloggermz111: fonts09:21
apacheloggermz111: appearance -> fonts09:21
mz111apachelogger: there is no dpi setting in my font menu09:21
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apacheloggerjoshua: well, since you can get the up-to-date databse by running freshclam it isn't needed09:22
joshuabut freshclam isnt working for me right09:23
apacheloggerwell, clamscan neither or :P09:23
apacheloggeryou're just missing packages09:23
joshuashould i dl the daemon too ?09:24
apacheloggerjoshua: ?09:24
jjesseminimum partition for an install of breezy?09:25
joshuaclamav-daemon09:25
joshuais in the list09:25
jjessecan i do it on a 2g partition?09:25
apacheloggerjoshua: I think you have a repo mix09:25
apacheloggerthere is no clamav-daemon in offical afaik09:26
apacheloggerah there, well09:26
apacheloggerjoshua: I'll tell you the needed ones ;-)09:27
joshuaok :)09:27
joshuahow do i tell if mine is official09:27
apacheloggerjoshua: clamav | clamav-freshclam | clamav-testfiles | libclamav109:27
joshuacommand not found09:28
joshua4 times09:28
apacheloggerjoshua: that are the packages ;-)09:28
mz111apachelogger: i don't suppose you've taken a loot a the font menu09:28
joshuaoh09:28
joshuaLOL09:28
joshuasorry09:28
apacheloggermz111: hm, no, never .... or maybe I got you wrong09:29
jjesse!partition09:30
ubotuNot a clue, jjesse09:30
jjesse!size09:30
ubotujjesse: Bugger all, i dunno09:30
jjesse!specs09:31
ubotuNot a clue, jjesse09:31
jjesse!installation specs09:31
ubotujjesse: Are you smoking crack?09:31
jjesse!installation09:31
ubotujjesse: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:31
joshua!hmmmm09:31
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, joshua09:31
apacheloggerjjesse: what's the point?09:32
jjessetrying to figure out min. parition size for a breezy install09:32
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apacheloggerjjesse: as much as you need :P09:33
apachelogger~2gigs09:33
linlini used my regular ubuntu 5.10 install cd to install ubuntu as a "server" install.. how do i turn it into kubuntu when its bare like this09:33
linlinjust cause i dont want to have to downlaod and burn the kubuntu iso09:33
jjesseapachelogger: i have a 2gig virtual partition and it crapped at 48%09:33
apacheloggerlinlin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:33
jjesselinlin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:33
linlinok and that will generate the same effect as if i loaded from a cd?09:33
jjessethat was in the configuration stage09:34
jjesse"configuring openofficeorg-kubuntu09:34
apacheloggerlinlin: think so09:34
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joshuahi09:46
joshuaif i do   wget -c http://ubuntuguide.org/ubuntu5.04.tar.gz09:46
joshuaand then   tar zxvf ubuntu5.04.tar.gz09:46
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joshuaheh09:46
joshuahow do i get the document now09:46
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sampanjoshua  iirc the ubuntuguide was html, so you probably can just click it in konq to open it09:49
joshuak09:49
sampanare you using breezy?09:49
sampanif so, be careful with ubuntuguide -- it's for hoary and some of the instructions in there (a) may not work or (b) may break stuff on your breezy install09:50
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jjessejoshua: try the faqguide on help.ubuntu.com it's fro breezy and should be able to answer most of your questions09:53
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joshuaok thanks alot09:57
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exiumDoes anyone have problems with having to restart the xserver constantly because the screen becomes what looks like static on a tv?09:59
sophie_exium: no prob here09:59
exiumHm. I am not entirely sure where to start. Everything seems to be working fine, and then all of the sudden, it seems like I am back in Windows where if a window freezes, and you drag it, all the graphics it touches become just like it.10:00
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nadyaHi. How do I update kde?!10:02
nadyaI followed the instructions, but which command do I have to execute to accomplish this?10:02
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bobbydhi10:03
nadyaHi10:03
bobbydextracting audio with kaudiocreator is really slow when it's taking the audio from the disc, it seems to be about 1x speed10:04
bobbydany ideas for speeding it up?10:04
bobbyddma is on on the drive10:04
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nadyaHi boobyd. Do you know how to update kde?10:07
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bhnabobbyd: no idea. have the same problem10:07
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chxin kpdf how could i switch off the Contents and Thumbnails ?10:13
chxfound it thanks10:13
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KnowerrorsAfternoon all, how do I get  a midi to play in Kubuntu?  Im trying to use KMid, and I get no sound10:40
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Hobbsee!midi10:42
ubotuwell, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo10:43
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Knowerrorsthx ubotu10:44
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KnowerrorsThat is alot of work just for midi... that seems crazy, midi should be standard10:46
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sproingiehow do i turn off the autocomplete in the google bar in konqueror?10:48
_jonashow do I get sounds on firefox1.5?10:49
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Hattorihello10:54
Hattoriwhat's the best mp3 player to install on kubuntu?10:54
raphinkamarok10:54
Hobbseeum, amarok?10:54
raphinkw/ xine imo10:55
Hattoriisn't it already there?10:55
raphinkI think so10:55
raphinkif you want something lighter, you can try juk too10:55
_jonassudo apt-get install amarok ;)10:57
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_jonasamarok is pretty like iTunes, xmms is pretty like winamp10:58
treakathhey all10:58
_jonashello10:59
treakathhey10:59
_jonaswhats up?11:00
treakathnuthing and you11:00
_jonasnothing special, listening to music11:00
_jonastrying to get used to ubuntu11:00
treakathoh okay im useing kubuntu11:01
treakath5.411:01
_jonasi have kubuntu installed too, but I like ubunut better11:01
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treakathwhat viresion have you got11:02
KnowerrorsHobbsee: do midis work for you with default kubuntu setup?11:02
HobbseeKnowerrors: i dont have any midi files to test with, sorry11:03
KnowerrorsHobbsee: http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/nes/tmnt-und.mid11:03
Knowerrorsplease ;)11:03
_jonastreakath: what is viresion?11:04
treakathi mean version11:04
treakathops my baqn11:05
treakathbad11:05
_jonasbreezy badger 5.1011:05
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treakathhow much its it11:09
treakathis it11:09
treakathhi11:09
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_mombasa_ummm..... I'm new to kubuntu linux. I need help with installing software, and what would be good p2p soft.11:14
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peixotoHi all. Anyone had luck using klik ?11:45
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peixotoI am new to klik, and I am trying to run amarok, but it is giving an error, without even trying to download....11:47
peixoto"Error while trrying to run amarok" .... no download, no details, nothing...11:47
peixotoAnyone knows how to download the .cmg file, so that I can trry do debug it ?11:47
peixoto I am using breezy, and already installed rpm, which amarok .cmg requires ...11:47
Hobbseepeixoto: why are you trying to get amarok by using klik?11:48
Hobbseesudo apt-get install amarok11:48
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peixotoBecause I am getting an annoying error when I use the Ubuntu's amarok ...11:52
Hobbseewhich error?11:52
peixotoAnd I thought that maybe the klik's amarok had it already fixed..11:52
Hobbseeand did you try the amarok 1.3.7?11:53
Hobbseepeixoto: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php11:53
peixotoWhen I open the ubuntu amarok it gives an erroor "can open file." , or something like that11:53
peixotoHad already tried to uninstall and reinstall, remove the config dir, etc...11:54
Hobbseedo you have the codecs?11:54
Hobbsee!codecs11:54
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories11:54
Hobbsee!multimedia11:54
ubotu[multimedia]  for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications11:54
Hobbseecheck that you've got all the stuff from the first link11:54
peixotoyes, I used that script easyubuntu.. Everything in amarok is working fine, excecpt this error in the opening ...11:55
peixotoI was trying amarok 1.3.1, that is available in my synaptic, but I'll try 1.3.711:56
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Hobbseeprobably a good idea11:56
peixotomaybe it will work11:56
peixotoThanks for the tip11:56
Hobbseeapparently there's heaps of bug fixes since 1.3.111:57
Hobbseebut i've never tried klik11:57
kverdehi all. new to desktop linux and ubuntu.  Very, very impressed.11:57
Hobbsee:)11:57
dclindsay!easysource11:58
uboturumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:58
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