[12:03] <os2mac> ok how do I disable the cdrom drive in apt?
[12:03] <crimsun_> Lacerta: ...you "think"? This isn't a question you can be unsure about. Just pick one.
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: type `sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list` and comment out the 2 lines that have [cdrom blah blah]  in them (probably the top 2)
[12:03] <djk_> os2mac: just delete the line regarding the cddrive in your sources.list
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> a comment is a #
[12:04] <djk_> or that..
[12:04] <Lacerta> crimsun_: i'm absolutely sure that's the one, i was lying about thinking. i never think
[12:04] <Lacerta> crimsun_:  i just assumed it would've been AD1980 or something
[12:05] <os2mac> gotcha... I used vi...
[12:05] <crimsun_> Lacerta: so by default you want to use the onboard, not the card you installed, correct?
[12:05] <os2mac> what about the server... can I change to a different one rather than the US?
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: yes, of course
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> unfortunately nano wont search and replace :(
[12:06] <os2mac> what are the others?
[12:06] <os2mac> uk?
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> GB
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> GB, au, ca
[12:06] <Lacerta> crimsun_: the PCI card is ancient and i use it just for the midi port
[12:06] <os2mac> rgr stand by
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> try ca, it's canada
[12:07] <crimsun_> Lacerta: in a Konsole, echo "options snd-ens1371 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:07] <Lacerta> crimsun_:  done
[12:08] <ls3> anyone knows, how could i rename a file in unicode locale as non-unicode?
[12:08] <crimsun_> Lacerta: now, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[12:08] <Lacerta> crimsun_:  done
[12:08] <crimsun_> Lacerta: you'll probably need to log out of and back into KDE now.
[12:09] <Lacerta> crimsun_: k, i'll be back in a bit
[12:09] <os2mac> Kamping_Kaiser... same errors
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: it shoudl be the same errors, minus the "http://Kubuntu.pastebin.com/475828...etc" lines
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you pastebin your new set of errors though?
[12:11] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475837
[12:11] <os2mac> that is my sources.list
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta
[12:12] <LacertaII> crimsun_: thanks, it works
[12:12] <crimsun_> LacertaII: np.
[12:13] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475840
[12:13] <os2mac> MrMazda... I have been there....
[12:13] <os2mac> chatzilla?
[12:13] <MrMazda> yes, and you have a face set up for CZ
[12:13] <os2mac> that would be me.
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: you have spaces in front of all your lines, that will break apt IIRC
[12:13] <LacertaII> why does KDE set the resolution to 1600 * 1200 even if i logout with 1280 * 960?
[12:14] <MrMazda> I think by design it always starts with whatever is set first in xorg.conf
[12:14] <LacertaII> that's silly
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> then change the config
[12:15] <MrMazda> rearrange your modes line so the one you want is first listed
[12:15] <os2mac> Kamping_Kaiser
[12:15] <os2mac> corrected here are the errors.
[12:16] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475844
[12:17] <LacertaII> what's the best program to play music with?
[12:17] <crimsun_> "best" is subjective
[12:17] <LacertaII> that doesn't matter
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: looking
[12:17] <crimsun_> I prefer Rhythmbox, but Amarok, beep-media-player, quod libet, are all nice.
[12:17] <MrMazda> cd player will play cds
[12:18] <MrMazda> amarok works for mp3s
[12:18] <slow-motion> n8
[12:18] <os2mac> Kamping_Kaiser: waiting.....
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: can you type `cd /etc/apt` then go `sudo mv sources.list sources.list.old`
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> then type `sudo nano sources.list`
[12:20] <os2mac> done.
[12:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you have a blank file?
[12:21] <os2mac> yes
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: try those 3 lines, and see if they work. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/475851
[12:24] <os2mac> worked.
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. now to try and add in those custom lines you had
[12:25] <os2mac> but adept updater still segserv faults.
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you apt-get update?
[12:25] <os2mac> custom lines?
[12:25] <os2mac> yes that worked.
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> `deb http://Kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main` <- that one (if you still need it)
[12:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: try running `sudo apt-get --reinstall install adept`
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb
[12:28] <os2mac> still segserv error 11
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn.
[12:28] <os2mac> how about uninstall reinstall?
[12:28] <os2mac> how would I do that from apt?
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> so apt- works and adept doesnt?
[12:28] <os2mac> that is correct
[12:30] <os2mac> for the record... adept updater opens... it just segserv's on fetch updates.
[12:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you install stuff?
[12:30] <os2mac> lemme try
[12:30] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:31] <mzelem> anyone know the command to run x11 configuration program?
[12:31] <treakath> hey all
[12:31] <os2mac> Kamping_Kaiser: yes.. I can install from Adept.....
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> mzelem: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[12:32] <mzelem> k, thanks
[12:32] <treakath> hey robdotgeek
[12:33] <rjm101> does anyone know how to get gnomemeeting to see the x-eye camera, device manager sees it but it si not loaded
[12:34] <treakath> hey snake
[12:34] <_nesta> can anyone help please this has me really freaked out
[12:34] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=adept&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=adept&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=adept&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=adept
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugzilla search for `adept`
[12:36] <sampan> now THAT is a url
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. they don't make them like they used to ;)
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> bloatware!
[12:36] <sampan> lol
[12:37] <os2mac> Kamping_Kaiser... so it is a problem with the app.... crashing on getting updates.
[12:37] <Snake__> Hey guys, I got somethign thats really bothering me
[12:38] <os2mac> I can user apt-get update then use adept to install updates.
[12:38] <os2mac> until it gets fixed.
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. gl :)
[12:38] <os2mac> gl?
[12:38] <os2mac> good luck?
[12:38] <Snake__> How come when I install programs off of adepts, they never show up in my menu
[12:38] <Snake__> adept*
[12:39] <Snake__> I just downloaded a program called ace-of-pengiuns (a bunch of card games) and I have no idea how to access it.
[12:39] <Snake__> Because its not in my "games" section
[12:39] <Snake__> And this isn't my first program that did this to me
[12:41] <Snake__> Come on guys :(
[12:42] <_nesta> hey
[12:42] <_nesta> what was the program name
[12:42] <Snake__> Help :(
[12:42] <sampan> snake__  to get a list of files for that package you could do: dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:43] <sampan> if you look through the list, you should be able to find the exectuable name
[12:43] <sampan> then add it to kmenu
[12:43] <LacertaII> do i have to install some mp3 decoder before i can actually play them?
[12:43] <_nesta> dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin
[12:43] <_nesta> yah
[12:43] <Snake__> ubotu: l LacertaII about mp3
[12:43] <ubotu> Snake__: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:43] <_nesta> sampan can you help me?
[12:43] <Snake__> ....
[12:44] <Snake__> ubotu: tell LacertaII about mp3
[12:44] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:44] <Snake__> There ya go LacertaII
[12:44] <Snake__> Haha thanks a ton guys
[12:44] <sampan> _nesta  i have no idea about how to change all file associations like that ... best i could suggest would be to open konqueror --- settings --> configure konqueror --> file associations and maybe change each type manually
[12:44] <LacertaII> Snake__:  i thought that was a chell command :)
[12:45] <sampan> _nesta, but i have no idea if that would fix your problem or not
[12:45] <xianze> what is the local time at your place(s) ? :)
[12:45] <Snake__> LacertaII: or you can do it the easy way
[12:45] <Snake__> LacertaII: just download beep-media-player or XMMS, they come with the codecs
[12:45] <XamDM> xianze: 01:45
[12:46] <LacertaII> Snake__: k
[12:46] <Snake__> :)
[12:46] <xianze> =) here is the time 00:46 o_O are you people from all over the world? =) im from sweden and yes we have small tiny polarbears all over the place ;)
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi xianze, want a kangaroo?
[12:47] <Snake__> Is there anyway I could hot key opening the terminal in xfce??
[12:47] <xianze> ok, i'll give you one polarbeer if you give me one kangaroo?
[12:47] <polly_morf> Can anygody tell me why kaffeine is so buggy? I have switched to the Xine engine, but it still quits almost instalntly
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> xianze: ok. :) btw. it's 10:19 here :)
[12:59] <Polly_Morf> anybody else that has the prblem that kdevelop hangs when openinga project?
[01:01] <daryl> Is there a packages CD that I can get from anywhere?
[01:01] <daryl> I want to install Kubuntu on a Laptop that has no ethernet port
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure. i don't think so
[01:05] <daryl> :-(
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think the dvd's have all of main (if that helps)
[01:05] <daryl> I thought the DVD had the live CD and the install CD on.
[01:06] <daryl> In which case the DVD has all that the CD has.
[01:06] <daryl> Which doesn't include kdegames
[01:06] <daryl> heh
[01:06] <seth_k|lappy> the DVD has all of main, indeed
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> it does incude live+install, but i think it also has extra packages
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks seth_k|lappy
[01:06] <daryl> Although, the laptop only has a CD drive.
[01:07] <xianze> good night folks!
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> night
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> daryl: :(
[01:07] <daryl> quite
[01:08] <daryl> Yeah, may have to get me one of those.
[01:10] <taojah> anyone here?
[01:10] <taojah> i need help big time
[01:10] <xtacocorex> daryl: what programs do you need?
[01:11] <daryl> games would do nicely
[01:11] <daryl> dunno about any others yet
[01:11] <xtacocorex> daryl: i guess i could try making a cd repository and creating an iso
[01:12] <seth_k|lappy> Kamping_Kaiser, why getting GPG keys?
[01:12] <xtacocorex> daryl: i have no clue how successful it'l be
[01:12] <daryl> how I go about doing that?
[01:12] <seth_k|lappy> s/why/why\ are\ you/
[01:12] <xtacocorex> daryl: i'm looking for the wiki, i'll send you the url when i find it
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> seth_k|lappy: so enigmail stops telling me i don't have them ;)
[01:12] <daryl> thanks.
[01:12] <seth_k|lappy> Kamping_Kaiser, ah :P
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> like how to use it ;)
[01:15] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[01:15] <xtacocorex> daryl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto
[01:16] <daryl> merci
[01:16] <xtacocorex> taojah: what seems to be your problem
[01:16] <seth_k|lappy> Kamping_Kaiser, KGpg is good and has a nice interface; I recommend it if you're on KDE
[01:16] <seth_k|lappy> Kamping_Kaiser, Seahorse for Gnome
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'll check it out, thanks
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it in apt?
[01:18] <seth_k|lappy> Kamping_Kaiser, indeed it is. They both are
[01:19] <seth_k|lappy> !info kgpg
[01:19] <ubotu> kgpg: (GnuPG frontend for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 425 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[01:19] <daryl> xtacocorex: that's assuming that I have another machine :s
[01:19] <daryl> you running dapper flight 2?
[01:19] <xtacocorex> daryl: no, breezy
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> !info seahorse
[01:19] <ubotu> seahorse: (A Gnome front end for GnuPG), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 860 kB, Installed size: 3064 kB
[01:20] <daryl> oh well
[01:20] <xtacocorex> daryl: yeah, if i ran dapper f2, i'd get stuff for you
[01:20] <daryl> the games be .deb
[01:20] <daryl> i can just download and install with dpkg -i blah.deb yah?
[01:21] <xtacocorex> daryl: i would believeso
[01:21] <daryl> seeing as they're all here http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/pool-breezy/kdegames/
[01:21] <xtacocorex> daryl: i think thats what apt-get does in the end, uses dpkg
[01:21] <daryl> yeah
[01:21] <seth_k|lappy> indeed
[01:21] <seth_k|lappy> but you won't be able to use those .debs unless you're running KDE 3.5
[01:21] <seth_k|lappy> as their dependencies require it
[01:22] <daryl> am :)
[01:22] <daryl> assuming that comes with the latest dapper cd
[01:22] <seth_k|lappy> ah, indeed
[01:24] <djk_> how do i get all files from a site with wget?
[01:25] <daryl> wget -R
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> wget -a website.com
[01:25] <daryl> oh
[01:25] <daryl> :)
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:25] <MrMazda> so which is is :-D
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> -R recursive -a archive (iirc)
[01:26] <F_E> both should be used with causion
[01:27] <djk_> why
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lots of :S *downloaded 9.5 gig of stuff before realising he had started downloading recursively*
[01:27] <daryl> you could end up downloading the internet >_<
[01:27] <F_E> because of traffic
[01:30] <saikim> morning!
[01:30] <sharket> morning ?
[01:30] <sharket> lol
[01:30] <sharket> :)
[01:30] <sharket> hi saikim !!
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi saikim
[01:31] <saikim> haha sharket
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's morning :)
[01:31] <saikim> here is 8:30am
[01:31] <djk_> it's -r btw.. -R rejects..
[01:31] <saikim> :P
[01:31] <sharket> 01:31 here
[01:31] <sharket> :))
[01:31] <saikim> i am a newbie here!
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> 11:02 am :)
[01:31] <saikim> and newbie to IRC
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi sharket
[01:31] <sharket> hello Kamping_Kaiser
[01:31] <sharket> i'm newbie in life
[01:31] <sharket> :D
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's up saikim:)
[01:32] <saikim> newbie in kubuntu too...
[01:32] <saikim> As a newbie i had face some common problem.
[01:33] <saikim> but still can't find the solution from the forum and website too..
[01:33] <xtacocorex> whats the command to list all installed packages on your system
[01:34] <saikim> why my kubuntu sometime can mount my usb mass storage and sometime not?
[01:34] <saikim> i had apt-get usbmount.
[01:34] <sharket> well don't know
[01:34] <saikim> arr?
[01:34] <sharket> sometimes happens to me too
[01:34] <saikim> i also can't mount manually myself
[01:35] <saikim> for instance mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[01:35] <saikim> mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist
[01:35] <saikim> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[01:36] <saikim> then shot me this message
[01:36] <xtacocorex> saikim, sharket: try /dev/sdb1, i had that problem last night
[01:36] <saikim> dunno why!
[01:36] <Pupeno> does anybody know the name of the channel about audio on linux ?
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> xtacocorex: dpkg --get-selections
[01:36] <xtacocorex> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[01:36] <saikim> xtacocorex, same result.
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's long ;)
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> xtacocorex: pipe it throgh less or grep
[01:37] <xtacocorex> Kamping_Kaiser: definately, i'm going to try this repository cd, so i figured i'd back up all the installed packages i have
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah ok
[01:37] <saikim> still can't fix.
[01:38] <saikim> beside that i got a problem on both scim and fcitx
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> saikim: Kubuntu has had issues with usb stuff. *shrug*
[01:38] <saikim> Kamping, sure?
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> very
[01:38] <saikim> Kamping, then?
[01:39] <sampan> saikim, there are significant issues with scim in breezy too
[01:39] <sampan> unresolved issues, i should add
[01:39] <saikim> sampan, scim too... feel disappoint with kubuntu...
[01:40] <sampan> saikim  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/2565
[01:40] <sampan> yeah on many chinese linux forums the chinese users are saying: "stick with hoary" :X
[01:40] <saikim> SAMPAN, OIC
[01:41] <sampan> hopefully dapper will have scim done properly
[01:41] <sharket> :))
[01:41] <crimsun_> we've been working very hard to fix it
[01:41] <saikim> sampan, then i try fcitx. but fcitx same to me :P
[01:41] <crimsun_> ming hua has done most of the heavy lifting for ubuntu dapper
[01:41] <saikim> gentoo, also have some bugx with kde.
[01:41] <saikim> can't emerge kde last week.
[01:42] <xtacocorex> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks again
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl
[01:42] <sampan> crimsun_  good to know.  i haven't seen much change on the bug page, so i was wondering what was happening
[01:42] <saikim> crimsun, ya! i had come here few time but still can't meet him.
[01:42] <crimsun_> sampan: heh, I just uploaded 3 scim packages
[01:42] <jrjx> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 5.10 system.  Yesterday, sometime during the day while I wasn't looking at it, my system went wonky such that the hard disk drive activity light went constant on and I couldn't get the system to respond, display anything from the auto screen blanking, etc.  As if something was using ~ 100% CPU and wasn't giving it up.  So, I did as I would for a malfunctioning Win NT-ish system and power cycled w/o cleanly shutting down.
[01:43] <jrjx> Subsequent to the reboot ... now, my bar at the bottom of the screen (I think it's called "kicker") is malfunctioning, not showing me a little button for each separate window I open up, as it was showing to me previously.  I've looked at the online config options and see nothing obviously wrong.
[01:44] <sampan> crimsun_  yay!  :)  when they are all in backports and functioning that's my FIRST priority to apt-get :)  the bugged version locked up my kubuntu so bad i couldn't even kill X nor change to a text-console login -- just hung hard -- had to literally power-down by holding in the power button
[01:44] <sampan> was very nasty :X
[01:44] <jrjx> What do I need to look at?
[01:49] <saikim> exit
[01:49] <taojah> hello
[01:49] <saikim> quite
[01:49] <taojah> anyone here
[01:50] <robotgeek> taojah: hey
[01:51] <taojah> when i press ctrl alt f2 it takes me to a bash shell right? and i have to login..so when im done and i hit exit it says logged out and then the login part comes back up..do i just leave that bash shell 'open' and hit ctrl alt f7 to return to kde or is the bash shell supposed to close with the exit
[01:51] <robotgeek> taojah: no, it's okay
[01:51] <taojah> ok
[01:52] <taojah> is that bash shell different than the terminal konsole on kde ?
[01:52] <robotgeek> taojah: not very
[01:53] <sharket> ey robotgeek !
[01:53] <sharket> i was looking 4 yoy
[01:53] <sharket> *you
[01:54] <sharket> for more than 2 days
[01:54] <sharket> hehe
[01:54] <robotgeek> sharket: really? why?
[01:54] <sharket> yes
[01:54] <DaSkreech> can I set who owns mounts in /etc/fstab?
[01:54] <sharket> somebody told me u have a ppc too
[01:54] <sharket> or something like
[01:54] <jrjx> Tao: I think you're seeing, like, different virtual consoles.  One, the GUI console, is the F7, the other one is a "spare" one at the F2.  It's as if two different people were logged in using the same keyboard/monitor/mouse simultaneously, and you switched between which login is active with the Ctrl-Alt-F# keystroke.
[01:54] <robotgeek> sharket: yes
[01:54] <sharket> because i tried ur .deb
[01:54] <sharket> java, but i have same error
[01:55] <robotgeek> sharket: the java one?
[01:55] <sharket> yes
[01:55] <sharket> and i can't fix it
[01:55] <sharket> don't know where is the matter
[01:55] <sharket> i'm trying to setting up all tools :)
[01:55] <robotgeek> sharket: hmm, okay..do this, one sec.
[01:55] <sharket> 3D and that stuff
[01:55] <sharket> and another thing, can i see .rm with ppc ?
[01:56] <robotgeek> sharket: you can try the real player experimental stuff, but i never get any video
[01:57] <sharket> because i use to see www.lando.co.uk videos
[01:57] <sharket> any divx ?
[01:57] <sharket> or not those propietaries files
[01:57] <robotgeek> sharket: if it uses any special codecs, probably not
[01:58] <sharket> well not so good
[01:58] <sharket> :(
[01:59] <robotgeek> sharket: okay, i know how to fix this, give me a minute. i have to ssh into my home computer
[01:59] <sharket> yes
[01:59] <sharket> this is my error
[01:59] <sharket> bash: /opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[02:00] <robotgeek> sharket: hmm, so you installed from the wiki, okay.
[02:00] <sharket> i did
[02:00] <robotgeek> sharket: you can also get it from plf now
[02:00] <sharket> plf ?
[02:00] <robotgeek> sharket: there's a nice .deb file
[02:01] <sharket> give me the like please
[02:01] <sharket> again
[02:01] <sharket> but i have it installated, i guess..
[02:01] <robotgeek> sharket: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , add the repository
[02:02] <sharket>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[02:02] <sharket>  +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[02:02] <sharket>       3        /usr/bin/java-sablevm
[02:02] <sharket>       4        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-ibm/jre/bin/java
[02:02] <sharket> *     5        /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/bin/java
[02:02] <sharket> and why it doesn't work ?
[02:02] <robotgeek> sharket: hmm, okay. you have it installed then
[02:03] <robotgeek> sharket: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:03] <sharket> yes
[02:03] <sharket> i did last day from ur .deb
[02:03] <robotgeek> hmm, so i figure you are going to use the sdk
[02:04] <robotgeek> okay, remove the alias from your .bashrc
[02:04] <robotgeek> gedit ~/.bashrc , and remove alias java = whatever
[02:05] <callie> anyone her managed to get sim city 3000 running under kubuntu?
[02:05] <sharket> ok
[02:05] <sharket> then i don't' need add plf repositories ?
[02:06] <sharket> but is good to have them
[02:06] <sharket> no ?
[02:06] <robotgeek> sharket: then, open another terminal and type 'java'. it should crib about libjvm not found
[02:06] <robotgeek> sharket: no, you don't need them. this was the only package there for for ppc
[02:06] <callie> or alternatly can someone tell me what command i need to use to pipe the output of one command to be written to a text file
[02:06] <sharket> ok
[02:06] <callie> i need it to be written and not just displayed in a viewer
[02:07] <callie> hi robotgeek
[02:07] <robotgeek> callie: you can use | tee
[02:07] <sharket> i did it robotgeek
[02:07] <robotgeek> sharket: what does 'java' output?
[02:08] <callie> robotgeek: <command> | tee <nameof.file>  yeah?
[02:08] <sharket> sharket@whitebox:~$ java
[02:08] <robotgeek> callie: use command blah blah | tee file
[02:08] <sharket> bash: java: command not found
[02:08] <callie> cool
[02:08] <robotgeek> sharket: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/bin/java ?
[02:08] <robotgeek> sharket: type the entire path?
[02:10] <sharket> um
[02:10] <sharket> this works then
[02:10] <sharket> well, try to do something
[02:10] <sharket> hehehe
[02:10] <robotgeek> sharket: maybe you can alias this in your .bashrc
[02:11] <sharket> yes
[02:11] <callie> hmmm, well that didn't up any info
[02:11] <callie> but thanks robotgeek
[02:11] <robotgeek> sharket: alternatively, and better solution is export PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/jre/bin:"${PATH}"
[02:12] <robotgeek> callie: that did not work?
[02:12] <robotgeek> callie: what are you trying to output?
[02:12] <sharket> did it
[02:13] <mrmarcel> gn8
[02:13] <callie> it worked but i think im barking up the wrong tree here robotgeek
[02:13] <robotgeek> callie: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[02:13] <callie> clickity click
[02:14] <robotgeek> sharket: hmm, my next release (not sure when) will fix the issue, hopefully. damn IBM java ppl
[02:14] <fdelacruz> gud mornign guys
[02:14] <robotgeek> evening fdelacruz
[02:14] <fdelacruz> Im sorry robotgeek, its morning here in the philippines,
[02:15] <robotgeek> fdelacruz: it's alrite, you don't need to be sorry :)
[02:15] <callie> basically robotgeek im trying to get sim city to run, but with not much luck, so i want to see what the application is doing and weather its encountering some kind of error, but it locks up x so im not sure how to achieve this
[02:15] <fdelacruz> advance merry xmass to all,
[02:15] <callie> and to you fdelacruz
[02:15] <robotgeek> sharket: i'll make edits to the JavaPPC page to reflect this, thanks
[02:17] <fdelacruz> guys any recommendation to optimize my kubuntu performance! Im using HP Brio ba300 pIII with 256 mb memory
[02:17] <sharket> thanks you not mee robotgeek
[02:17] <callie> install more ram ;)
[02:17] <sharket> :)
[02:17] <fdelacruz> aside from installing more ram, any tweaks?
[02:18] <sharket> i readed in one wiki doing that alias i'll fix it
[02:18] <sharket> but i didn't
[02:18] <sharket> hehe
[02:18] <robotgeek> sharket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[02:18] <sharket> that is because i was exausted
[02:18] <robotgeek> are you talking about that page?
[02:18] <sharket> yes
[02:18] <sharket> his can be avoided by adding the full path to java in your .bashrc
[02:18] <sharket> this is a lie !
[02:18] <sharket> hehe
[02:18] <sharket> :)
[02:19] <sharket> i tried and nothing, anyway
[02:19] <sharket> :))
[02:19] <sharket> what about 3D aceleration  ?
[02:19] <robotgeek> sharket: with the old method, yes. that works. not with the .deb
[02:20] <robotgeek> fdelacruz: turn off all flash effects
[02:21] <robotgeek> okay, goin home now. later folks
[02:21] <sharket> which old methods ?
[02:21] <fdelacruz> k robot geek thanks I will try i
[02:21] <sharket> setting all up by hand u mean ?
[02:22] <robotgeek> sharket: yes, download from ibm site etc
[02:23] <sharket> download from ibm what ?
[02:23] <robotgeek> sharket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC . instructions for installation for 1.5 :)
[02:23] <robotgeek> sharket: i will update that, i guess later tonite
[02:24] <sharket> no no
[02:24] <sharket> i mean 3D
[02:24] <sharket> not java
[02:24] <sharket> i have have right, now
[02:24] <robotgeek> sharket: hmm, okay. sorry, i missed a line
[02:25] <robotgeek> sharket: what machine do you have?
[02:25] <sharket> ibook, G4
[02:25] <callie> brb
[02:26] <sharket> ati 32 radeon i guess
[02:26] <robotgeek> sharket: which year. ibooks g4 go a long way :)
[02:27] <robotgeek> sharket: i need to go now, try "glxinfo | less" i guess
[02:27] <robotgeek> sharket: later
[02:29] <sharket> 800mhz
[02:30] <nekostar> anyone experienced with wine here?
[02:30] <nekostar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=cedega+cvs <<<--
[02:31] <nekostar> was following that guide to put in and its broken at the dcom98 bit
[02:31] <nekostar> so i got the dcom98 and tried wine DCOM98 but i get a new error about a library i dont have
[02:32] <sharket> robotgeek_away: http://pastebin.com/475998
[02:32] <djk_> isn't dcom98 installed via winesetup?
[02:32] <nekostar> its supposed to be yeah but that part is broken...
[02:32] <nekostar> microsoft changed the dl link
[02:33] <nekostar> thus i had to install it manually
[02:33] <nekostar> but that doesnt work
[02:42] <nalioth> nekostar: if the wiki won't help you, google will. cedega from cvs is not an ubuntu only thing
[02:45] <illogic-al> hi! i've got a dapper problem.
[02:45] <illogic-al> I installed the dapper drake kubuntu iso and apart from not recodgnizing my network card
[02:45] <illogic-al> all seemed well, until i tried to reboot into kubuntu
[02:46] <psyke> illogic-al: try ifup eth0
[02:46] <illogic-al> i get to the grub boot screen but then it sticks at the boot screen
[02:46] <nekostar> nalioth, im trying to just get the first bit working atm...
[02:46] <nekostar> the wine bit
[02:47] <illogic-al> so I'm just staring a white letters on a black screen with the words "savedefault" and "boot"
[02:47] <illogic-al> not much fun.
[02:49] <psyke> illogic-al: try rebooting and selecting the recovery mode instead
[02:49] <illogic-al> did. still doesn't work
[02:50] <psyke> when I dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper, the kernel panicked on boot, maybe it's the same for you..
[02:50] <illogic-al> what is the magical "recovery mode" supposed to do anyway 'cause it's kernel options don't seem much different from the defualt.
[02:50] <psyke> I installed cleanly via the flight 2 cd and it worked fine
[02:50] <psyke> recovery mode shows more boot messages and doesn't start the X server by default, I think
[02:50] <illogic-al> this was a clean install.
[02:51] <psyke> does breezy work on your system? maybe your hardware is causing a conflict with dapper's kernel
[02:51] <illogic-al> psyke so basically the only change is removing the kernel option "quiet"
[02:51] <illogic-al> psyke, hardware could be causing a conflict but i'll never know till i get on OS on their will I?
[02:52] <psyke> illogic-al: on my system it doesn't start X, so it's more than that
[02:52] <illogic-al> and the installer kernel did boot, so if anything it's a prob with the kernel installed
[02:52] <psyke> the installer kernel should be pretty much the same as what was installed...
[02:53] <illogic-al> psyke, thing's like loading or rather not loading the initrd would be good to add to a "recovery" kernel.
[02:53] <illogic-al> if you happen to be a developer :-)
[02:54] <illogic-al> psyke, "pretty much" seems to be the difference between working and not working.
[02:54] <psyke> I'm not a dev, just a user
[02:54] <illogic-al> is their anyway to use the kernel included with the install CD?
[02:55] <illogic-al> psyke, do you know where I would file a bug report?
[02:56] <illogic-al> hah! found the kernel. and initrd used at install.
[02:57] <illogic-al> anyone know how i can copy these to disk in rescue mode?
[03:01] <Snake__> Is there anyway to set a hotkey to open terminal in xfce?
[03:03] <illogic-al> guess not.
[03:04] <admrl> alrighty im having amazing problems with mimetypes
[03:04] <admrl> any time i open a native kde app i get a mimetype error
[03:04] <admrl> it is
[03:05] <admrl> it says "could not find mime type application/octet-stream
[03:05] <admrl> anyone had that problem
[03:08] <admrl> i fixed it
[03:08] <Snake__> What was it admrl ?
[03:08] <admrl> where can i report bugs
[03:08] <Snake__> !bugs
[03:09] <Snake__> Damn it ubotu
[03:09] <admrl> well i changed a mimetype icon
[03:09] <admrl> for .smc
[03:09] <Snake__> admrl: you can go to kubuntu.org and report bugs
[03:10] <admrl> they are supernintendo roms that you can play with zsnes or something of the sort
[03:10] <admrl> and i changed the mimetype to something that didnt come in the icon theme
[03:10] <admrl> and whenever i opened a native kde app i would get a sorry message
[03:11] <admrl> Snake__: would i need to find out if it is a problem with kde or kubuntu first..?
[03:11] <_hilz_> Hi people...
[03:11] <Snake__> Mmmmm ya
[03:11] <_hilz_> I just installed Kubuntu.. can anyone tell me how to install a vnc server?
[03:12] <_hilz_> tightvnc if possible
[03:12] <admrl> sudo apt-get install tightvnc..?
[03:12] <apokryphos> !vnc
[03:12] <ubotu> [vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[03:12] <admrl> id assume it would fall into the university repo
[03:12] <admrl> _hilz_ : have you ever used linux before
[03:12] <admrl> or a debian based linux distro..?
[03:12] <_hilz_> admri: very breifly
[03:13] <_hilz_> admri: i am using it now! :)
[03:13] <admrl> haha
[03:13] <admrl> well learn synaptic
[03:14] <admrl> its all you need for installing packages
[03:14] <apokryphos> admrl: Adept; this is #kubuntu ;-)
[03:14] <admrl> later you might need to learn to compile from source but i havnt had to do it much
[03:14] <admrl> sorry i dont use Adept
[03:14] <admrl> i dont like it
[03:14] <admrl> but i have a phone call and must get going
[03:15] <_hilz_> I found Adept.. but not synaptic. is there synaptic in kubuntu ?
[03:15] <apokryphos> _hilz_: adept is the default kubuntu package manager; synaptic is the default ubuntu one
[03:15] <apokryphos> try them both out and stick with the one you like
[03:15] <vblanton> Anyone know why I can view my apache2.0 webserver on any computer in the house but no one outside the house (past the router/firewall) can see my website? I have enabled port forwarding of PORT 80 on my router/firewall
[03:15] <apokryphos> and if you get bored enough, try the others that are out there too. Whatever floats your boat.
[03:16] <nalioth> _hilz_: you can install it and use it
[03:16] <_hilz_> install it using Adept?! thats twisted!
[03:16] <apokryphos> =)
[03:17] <_hilz_> just kidding! i'll try it now
[03:17] <nalioth> _hilz_: you can use konsole + apt-get
[03:19] <_hilz_> so what would the command be ? apt-get synaptic ?
[03:19] <apokryphos> _hilz_: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:20] <_hilz_> daaamn! that was easy!
[03:21] <cmoman> vblanton: do you have a domain name registered
[03:21] <apokryphos> _hilz_: apt is my preferred method 8)
[03:21] <_hilz_> sudo apt-get install tightvnc ... it says package not found...
[03:22] <_hilz_> is there a vnc server package that anyone can recommend?
[03:22] <_hilz_> with a java interface...like tightvnc ?
[03:23] <vblanton> cmoman: no
[03:23] <vblanton> cmoman: errr yes
[03:23] <vblanton> cmoman: but not for my computer
[03:23] <vblanton> cmoman: i don't need one though
[03:24] <cmoman> vblanton: so you're sure people can connect to your machine from outside your house
[03:25] <vblanton> cmoman: i have port forwarding enabled for port 80...
[03:25] <vblanton> cmoman: but people can't connect
[03:26] <cmoman> so you have a static ip or using a dynamic dns service
[03:26] <djk_> _hilz_: tightvncserver is in universe..
[03:27] <_hilz_> and what is universe ?
[03:27] <apokryphos> !tell _hilz_ about repositories
[03:27] <_hilz_> why not?
[03:28] <vblanton> cmoman: dynamic dhcp
[03:28] <vblanton> cmoman: want to test the site?
[03:28] <vblanton> http://67.54.220.192:4665/
[03:29] <vblanton> I changed the port to 4665 to see if that helped but nope :(
[03:29] <_mark> Does anyone know / where  I can get a list of respo's?
[03:29] <djk_> !easysource
[03:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:29] <djk_> perhaps there..
[03:30] <vblanton> otherwise search the ubuntu wiki for repositories and you should find a number of pages on them
[03:30] <vblanton> !repositories
[03:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:30] <cmoman> vblanton: yeah I tried connecting, no joy here. Have you configured the ports that Apache listens on
[03:30] <lulu> what options do I need to change to from defaults in fstab for vfat partition so non-root users can write to it?
[03:30] <vblanton> cmoman: I enabled all ports at one time and still no go
[03:31] <cmoman> vitual hosting?
[03:31] <cmoman> virtual hosting
[03:31] <vblanton> cmoman: yes. the ports are being forwarded appropriately. that is why I can see my own site. and so can my mom downstairs
[03:31] <djk_> lulu: user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[03:32] <lulu> djk_: thx :)
[03:32] <djk_> you're welcome
[03:32] <cmoman> vblanton: pretty new to configuring webservers myself and generally use Kguarddog and Kguidedog for configuring firewalls etc
[03:33] <_hilz_> ok now i know there are four repositoreis... how do i see the packages that are in "universe" in synaptic ?
[03:33] <_hilz_> is it possible at all?
[03:34] <apokryphos> _hilz_: did you read the link I gave you?
[03:34] <djk_> after editing /etc/apt/sources.list run sudo apt-get update
[03:35] <_hilz_> i just saw it...! man... i have so much to learn in one day!
[03:35] <_hilz_> i was wonderint what was that ! tell thingy!
[03:35] <_hilz_> now i saw all the messages !
[03:35] <_hilz_> let me read
[03:36] <cmoman> vblanton: does your isp actually allow you to host a webserver on your connection?
[03:36] <cmoman> vblanton: just wondered if the isp might be blocking
[03:37] <_mark> Is There an xvid codec available?
[03:38] <Snake__> Can anyone her teach me how to write shell scripts?
[03:38] <Snake__> here*
[03:39] <Mr-Falkor> Snake__, use google, and search for a guide
[03:39] <nalioth> Snake__: www.tldp.org has nice writeups on them
[03:39] <Snake__> Ooo sweet site!
[03:39] <Snake__> Thanks :)
[03:41] <nalioth> Snake__: also you can ask uncle google
[03:42] <robotgeek> _mark: yes, did you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[03:42] <Snake__> :)
[03:44] <goldbrick> http://castlezzt.net/slideshow/where%20is%20your%20god%20now.jpg
[03:45] <robotgeek> goldbrick: that is offtopic, so please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:45] <goldbrick> sorry, okay
[03:58] <jaakko> Hi human beings. Do you think Kubuntu, i.e. Ubuntu with X + konq + kaffeine + amarok + kdelibs will fit into 256 MB CF card?
[03:58] <ggilbert> doubtful :)
[03:59] <jaakko> Someone should give it a try :)
[04:01] <jaakko> I'm just dreaming about totally silent Kubuntu HTPC. Actually it doesn't need KDE, but since amarok is _the_ music player, kdelibs needs to be installed, and... why not other nice kde apps also :)
[04:02] <jaakko> Umm. When keyboards with apt-get update & upgrade hotkeys will hit the markets?
[04:03] <jaakko> Just spend last night installing winxp on my lil' brother' gaming pc. Wish there was such hotkeys :)
[04:20] <Snake__> jaakko: thats a great idea
[04:20] <Snake__> linux keyboards
[04:20] <Snake__> u might wanna pitch it to logitech :)
[04:21] <jaakko> Yup ;) If I had to type "sudo apt-get upate && apt-get upgrade -V" once per day, linux keyboard would save maybe a month of my life time :)
[04:22] <admrl> alrighty
[04:22] <admrl> sorry about that
[04:22] <Snake__> Man that would be awesome...
[04:22] <Snake__> a linux specific keyboard
[04:22] <admrl> i got on the phone and my sister got on the computer
[04:23] <Snake__> lol admrl dont u hate that?
[04:23] <admrl> haha ya she had to play sum flash game
[04:23] <jaakko> Sure one can bind any commands to regular hotkeys.. but u know, it would be different thing if there was "apt-get" printed into the keys :)
[04:24] <admrl> and when it doesnt work she trys to get me to fix it
[04:24] <Snake__> But apt-get is going to be replaced by aplitude soon...so we would be better off with "Get Programs"
[04:24] <Snake__> Lol admrl the best thing is when AOL videos wont work for my lil sis, and she complains to me about it
[04:24] <jaakko> "Get Programs" sounds a bit too microsoft :)
[04:24] <admrl> how would apt-get have its own key
[04:24] <admrl> ya millsberry.com or something
[04:25] <admrl> im teaching her apt-get but she doesnt get it yet
[04:25] <Snake__> admrl: we are going to build a linux specific keyboard
[04:25] <Snake__> :)
[04:25] <admrl> are you now..?
[04:25] <admrl> ubuntu gear..?
[04:25] <Snake__> in our heads. and talk about how cool it would be if it was real :-P
[04:25] <exium> Alright. Newbie: Is kynaptic on Kubuntu 5.10
[04:26] <admrl> haha
[04:26] <Snake__> exium: No, Kubuntu 5.10 comes with adept...if thats what you mean
[04:26] <Snake__> kynaptic was so pre-schooler it wasn't even funny
[04:26] <exium> Ok. Bit obvious, but I was making sure.
[04:26] <exium> lol.
[04:26] <borisattva> hi, i just downloaded and burnt a DVD of breezy kubuntu, which is claimed to be a combo install and live cd. the dvd is acessible in linux environment, but its neither bootable nor accessible in windows for the 'live' demonstration. was this dropped or did i do something wrong?
[04:27] <admrl> i was scared to install kubuntu because i thought there was only one guy working on it in the background with no work going into it so i installed ubuntu and installed kde on it
[04:27] <Snake__> borisattva: that's not how a live CD works
[04:27] <jaakko> Actually I switched from cli apt-get to adept yesterday. I even made an icon for adept in the kpanel :)
[04:27] <Snake__> borisattva: you boot with the CD in it, and it should run without messing up your windows partitions
[04:27] <borisattva> snake: i was able to boot into the 'live ubuntu' cd given to me at work..
[04:28] <Snake__> borisattva: through windows?!
[04:28] <borisattva> no thourgh booting into it bypassing windows
[04:28] <Snake__> borisattva: ya thats what your kubuntu disk should be doing
[04:28] <borisattva> the dvd i burnt does not appear bootable, and i verified the boot sequence on all machines installed. they boot from othere bootable meddia just fine
[04:28] <jaakko> Btw, I wish next Kubuntu will have proper WLAN applet. (Or next KDE release will have...)
[04:28] <admrl> borisattva: and dont save anything to your harddrive it could currupt the filesystem
[04:29] <exium> Last question: I have a fat partition I want to mount. Should I use -mount or use the disk tool?
[04:29] <Snake__> admrl: he wouldn't be able to, ntfs is read only on live disks
[04:29] <jaakko> exium: what disk tool are you referring?
[04:29] <borisattva> strange it is not.. is there a special way to burn it? i just right clicked it and chose write to dvd on the iso i downloaded..
[04:29] <exium> Default Kubuntu under System Settings -- Disk & Filesystems
[04:30] <admrl> i had a harddrive get currupted after using i think a knoppix disc for a few days while my parents used windows
[04:30] <Snake__> borisattva: No that should work....perhaps just try downloading the live CD and using that
[04:30] <admrl> exium: sudo mount /dev/?device?
[04:31] <jaakko> exium: strange, I don't have that.. is under K button?
[04:31] <borisattva> i was hoping to be able to give out the bootable dvds though.. as they appear to pack alot more with them
[04:31] <Snake__> Well the DVDs should work..
[04:31] <exium> yes jaakko
[04:31] <sarag> hello
[04:31] <admrl> whatever your device is if its like a hard drive it will be like /dev/hda1
[04:31] <Snake__> Did you finalize the disk?
[04:31] <sarag> can anyone help me with a dvd problem?
[04:31] <jaakko> exium: my ~/.kde is 2-3 years old, seems it's not upgraded properly :)
[04:32] <kakei> how can i dowload a full folder from a FTP with the shell?
[04:32] <admrl> whats the problem sarag
[04:32] <ggilbert> hehe
[04:32] <jaakko> exium: anyway, if I need to mount something more than once and it's not an usb device, I tend to put it into fstab
[04:32] <Snake__> borisattva: when you burned it, did you tell it to finalize the CD?
[04:32] <ggilbert> jaakko: I have this habit of wiping my ~/.kde ever new release. Just to see if anything cool has been added to the default :p
[04:32] <sarag> i have xine, vlc, totem etc but cant seem to play a dvd with my internad paler
[04:33] <borisattva> snake__ i'm new to linux, is finalization meant to occur by default when using the right click "burn to dvd" command on an ISO file?
[04:33] <borisattva> i didnt see an option to select it in that method
[04:33] <sarag> internalayer
[04:33] <Snake__> borisattva: it depends, what did you use to burn the disk?
[04:33] <sarag> damn keyboard
[04:33] <exium> jaakko, still a new player to linux. fstab is a bit voodoo to me.
[04:33] <jaakko> ggilbert: haha, but what about your personalized desktop?? I know, maybe one should wipe .kde at least once per year to avoit problems generally :)
[04:34] <borisattva> its a sony cd/dvd+-rw.. sony dvd-r's. and i just used the i guess whatever built-in dvd burning method that ubuntu has
[04:34] <ggilbert> jaakko: Well I back it up first :)
[04:34] <Snake__> Ohhh.....hmm I don't know anything about ubuntu's burning methods, I thought you used windows
[04:34] <ggilbert> in terms of my customization, that only takes 10-20 minutes to do
[04:34] <jaakko> exium: well, fstab may be a bit unfriendly, but at least he doesn't sleep with your gf or drink your beers.
[04:35] <ggilbert> every six months or so :)
[04:35] <sarag> whats the best way to watch as dvd on a kbuntu system
[04:35] <ggilbert> sarag:  isntall xine-ui
[04:35] <admrl> sarag did you already get everything from ubuntu plf repos
[04:35] <Snake__> borisattva: perhaps burn the kubuntu disks under windows?
[04:35] <sarag> i have xine
[04:35] <sarag> and vlc
[04:35] <ggilbert> sarag: then just open up xine and hit the dvd button
[04:35] <admrl> sarag: your going to need to add the plf repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <jaakko> ggilbert: for me it takes one hour to decide what bg image to use :) that's why I try to avoid tweaking my desktop...
[04:35] <Snake__> borisattva: or if you just want to hand out disk, do it the easy way and order ubuntu disks off the site
[04:35] <borisattva> hehe i dont have a windows pc with a dvdr anymore.. i liked ubuntu so much i sacked it :( and my laptop only has cdr
[04:36] <sarag> ill try brb
[04:36] <ggilbert> jaakko:  :)
[04:36] <Snake__> Ah I see...
[04:36] <admrl> sarag:and install the librarys and such to watch a dvd
[04:36] <Snake__> Hmmm you might want to go to #ubuntu to talk about that
[04:36] <borisattva> i'll do that, i think my associates will like kubunut more . but whatever works
[04:36] <Snake__> they may be able to help you more
[04:36] <jaakko> sarag: for dvds I recommend kaffeine + xine-engine (maybe gstreamer would do also)
[04:36] <borisattva> thanks for the help guys
[04:36] <ggilbert> jaakko: Personally I've always found kaffeine way too unstable.
[04:37] <Snake__> borisattva: Like I said, you could got #ubuntu and try for help there
[04:37] <Snake__> could go to**
[04:37] <admrl> sarag: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf <<<<<<<<<< here is info and everything you need to watch a dvd
[04:37] <jaakko> ggilbert: me too, but personally I've always found KDE apps way too sweet.
[04:37] <admrl> sarag: and add the plf repo to your sources.list
[04:38] <ggilbert> jaakko: I love kaffeine and all, but it doesnt do me much good if it crashes halfway through the movie :)
[04:38] <jaakko> ggilbert: that means, I rather fill bugreports about unstable kde apps that switch to non-kde :) you know, consistent...
[04:38] <ggilbert> I do use kaffeine for mp3s though
[04:38] <admrl> i like amarok for music
[04:38] <ggilbert> Hopefully the file-open bug disappears in dapper drake :)
[04:39] <admrl> im having that mimetype problem again
[04:39] <admrl> ugh!
[04:39] <admrl> its horrable
[04:39] <jaakko> ggilbert: I know the feeling, halfway a movie you think "umm, maybe too much unsharping" and press x... crash!
[04:40] <ggilbert> I prefer juk for my music and then kaffeine for the one off mp3s
[04:40] <ggilbert> both are good apps though, juk just suits my way of listening a bit better
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> ggilbert, kaffeine is too bulky as is juk and amarok... xmms is sweet though
[04:40] <admrl> yes juk is also amazing
[04:41] <Snake__> Is there anyway to open pictures in konsole?
[04:41] <admrl> ya i used to go for xmms
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> ggilbert, if you have a spare system on your network... you can setup ampache and use it
[04:41] <admrl> haha!
[04:41] <jaakko> ggilbert: amarok will be really killer, just needs to be more stable too.
[04:41] <admrl> Snake__:
[04:41] <admrl> shit
[04:41] <Snake__> :)
[04:41] <jaakko> Snake__: aart?
[04:41] <Snake__> Hmm
[04:41] <Snake__> Ill try it
[04:41] <admrl> Snake__: your if you want to do that im pretty sure you can find something that will change it to ascii
[04:42] <admrl> and get it to open buti ve never heard of something that opens an image on the command line
[04:42] <ggilbert> jaakko: I just normally don't do much with playlists. I just type the name of the cd or the artist I want to hear
[04:42] <jaakko> movies are nice in ascii mode, expect subtitles are pretty unclear
[04:42] <Snake__> lol
[04:43] <jaakko> ggilbert: so mpg123 would do fine for u :)
[04:43] <admrl> ive never figured that one out jaako
[04:43] <ggilbert> yeah
[04:43] <admrl> haha!
[04:43] <admrl> nice jaakko
[04:44] <admrl> im getting this again "Sorry could not find mime type application/octet-stream"
[04:44] <ggilbert> jaakko: mpg123 was what I used until I switched to kde last year :)
[04:44] <admrl> when i open native kde apps
[04:44] <jaakko> ggilbert: i'm sorry for that :/
[04:44] <ggilbert> ha
[04:44] <admrl> ggilbert what wm did you use before that
[04:45] <ggilbert> ion
[04:45] <admrl> ion hmmmm isnt that just windows with like black behind them
[04:45] <ggilbert> http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[04:46] <admrl> oh yes
[04:46] <admrl> that is one pretty desktop
[04:46] <ggilbert> I was mostly a terminal guy until I switched to kde
[04:46] <Snake__> !info ion
[04:46] <admrl> i still am
[04:47] <admrl> im using kde and ctrl+alt+f1 ;)
[04:47] <ggilbert> came full circle
[04:47] <admrl> vt1 is my friend :)
[04:47] <ggilbert> kde was also the first de I used in linux :)
[04:47] <admrl> ya me also
[04:47] <admrl> i tried gnome on mandrake
[04:47] <admrl> but hated it
[04:48] <ggilbert> I liked gnome
[04:48] <ggilbert> switched from kde to it
[04:48] <_sara> sourselist was giving me guff whenm i tried to apt-gety update
[04:48] <Snake__> I hate gnome..
[04:48] <Snake__> kde is to slow
[04:48] <Snake__> xfce for life
[04:48] <jaakko> I thought fvwm95 was amazing, until found KDE 1.0 :-)
[04:48] <ggilbert> hehe
[04:49] <admrl> _sara are you sarag..?
[04:49] <jaakko> Snake__: kde is not that slow if you run kde apps only. imho mix-toolkit de is slow
[04:49] <ggilbert> jaakko: my first linux install defaulted to fvwm95. I couldnt stand it and then I found kde :p
[04:49] <Snake__> jaakko: it is when your running it on 800 mhz with 512 ram ;)
[04:49] <ggilbert> it was so cool at the time
[04:50] <jaakko> ggilbert: i run kde on 233 mmx with 160 mb of ram. (well, the cpu was extreme mobile version with huge 512 kb l2 cache!!)
[04:50] <ggilbert> :)
[04:51] <ggilbert> the good old days
[04:51] <jaakko> it was even enough power to decode divx movies!
[04:51] <ggilbert> not that I miss them. I'm much happier with kde 3.5 than I was with beta 2 :p
[04:52] <admrl> anyone try kde 4 yet..?
[04:52] <jaakko> yeah, 2.x was not so great.
[04:52] <ggilbert> no?
[04:52] <admrl> ive heard you can download it
[04:52] <ggilbert> I never really used 2.x
[04:53] <jaakko> while 1.x was so fresh, 2.x was mainly slow. 3.x was a breakthrough
[04:53] <ggilbert> jaakko: 3.2 was what got me back on it
[04:53] <admrl> jaakko: how long have you been using linux
[04:54] <jaakko> ggilbert: i also had my non-kde period, was running WindowMaker back then :)
[04:54] <jaakko> admrl: got my first computer '97 and installed first slackware '98 :)
[04:55] <admrl> jaakko: ya i had mine too but i ran fluxbox
[04:55] <jaakko> afeter that, it's been really sad story... nowdays they almost my entire life :/
[04:55] <jaakko> s/they/they're
[04:56] <jaakko> admrl: yup, another really lightweight wm. anyway, nowdays i tink one sould run de, not just wm with some applet bar
[04:57] <jaakko> for de means one toolkit, highly usable d'n'd etc.
[04:57] <admrl> panel in kde 3.5 was a big step i think
[04:58] <jaakko> admrl: agree, especially the possibility have multiple panels
[04:58] <ggilbert> jaakko: you could have that before 3.5 :)
[04:58] <admrl> ya i just went from 2 panels back to 1 tho
[04:58] <admrl> haha
[04:59] <jaakko> did I? oh damn :/
[04:59] <admrl> ya i used that in 3.4*;)
[04:59] <admrl> im thinking adding taskbar v2 or whatever
[04:59] <ggilbert> I have a kind of gnomish set up now :p
[04:59] <ggilbert> my panel layout looks nearly identical to the default gnome
[05:00] <admrl> anyone have screenshots!?
[05:00] <jaakko> hey guys, everyone upload your screenshot right now?
[05:00] <admrl> *runs to tripod
[05:02] <robotgeek> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6048
[05:02] <robotgeek> not much, this is my gnome desktop
[05:02] <jaakko> heh, http://nurkka.org/tmp/screen.jpg
[05:02] <robotgeek> aghhh, my script is messed up
[05:03] <admrl> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png
[05:03] <jaakko> maybe the best thing i love in kde is kioslave... i could save my screenshot direcly into sftp:// if i would not use gimp :)
[05:03] <robotgeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6051 , there we go
[05:03] <ggilbert> yes
[05:03] <ggilbert> that's what keeps me on kde
[05:04] <sara_> what was that ftyp addy admrl?
[05:04] <robotgeek> u mean you guys don't use "sleep 3; import -frame -depth 8 -dither -quality 9 foo.png"
[05:04] <admrl> ummm i dont remember search google for ubuntu and plf
[05:04] <robotgeek> lol, i got that from the wiki
[05:04] <ggilbert> robotgeek: gone native. now I use ksnapshot :)
[05:04] <sara_> i got d/c
[05:04] <admrl> that was for you sara_
[05:04] <jaakko> admrl: LOL OMG :D
[05:04] <admrl> but i need to go
[05:05] <admrl> yep yep
[05:05] <robotgeek> sara_: java problems?
[05:05] <admrl> thank you thank you  *bows**
[05:05] <robotgeek> admrl: ?
[05:05] <sara_> troubles playing a rented dvd on my internal dvd player
[05:05] <jaakko> admrl: where i can dl that bg?
[05:06] <sara_> i have vlc, kaffeine, xine etc
[05:06] <robotgeek> is that kicker, admrl ?
[05:06] <jaakko> sara_: what's the prob exactly?
[05:06] <robotgeek> sara_: you need libdvdcss, i guess
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:07] <sara_> i'll try to get  libdvdcss
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> that would be the file
[05:07] <robotgeek> sara_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> libdvdcss2
[05:07] <karvr> evening, does anyone know if its possible to get the kernel source 2.6.12-10-386
[05:07] <robotgeek> sara_: feel free to ask if you don't follow
[05:07] <taojah> is it possible to 'irc in root' with Kubuntu ?
[05:08] <robotgeek> taojah: what do you mean, irc while your are root? if so, yes. but why :)
[05:08] <taojah> yes thats what i mean
[05:08] <sara_> im going there
[05:08] <taojah> i have read its very dangerous
[05:09] <robotgeek> taojah: yes, because you may be compromised. and then, some has access as root. pooof!
[05:09] <taojah> how can i check if i am root
[05:09] <jaakko> taojah: it's dangerous to be a root... u know, if human is given too much power, sooner or later everything is destroyed :)
[05:09] <robotgeek> taojah: whoami
[05:09] <taojah> whats that
[05:09] <ggilbert> a good rule of thumb is, if you don't need to be root to do something, don't be root
[05:10] <robotgeek> taojah: that tells you who you are :). if it says your name in the console, you are safe
[05:10] <taojah> ok
[05:10] <taojah> what would it say if i was root
[05:10] <karvr> I updated kernel thru apt updater to 2.6.12-10 , I'm having trouble getting the source file is it available ??
[05:11] <sara_> libdvdread3 is already the newest version
[05:11] <jaakko> sara_: if start dvd player in konsole, what's outputted there?
[05:12] <sara_> how do u start a dvd in console?
[05:13] <jaakko> sara_: i mean just run kaffeine or xine in konsole
[05:13] <jaakko> alt+f2 -> konsole -> kaffeine for example
[05:13] <sara_> as root?
[05:13] <jaakko> sara_: well, as normal user firstly
[05:14] <robotgeek> karvr: why do you need source for?
[05:14] <sara_> sara@S0106000b6ae2fb77:~$ kaffeine: GStreamerPart: New gstreamer state: READY
[05:14] <karvr> im trying toinstall klamav and it requires it
[05:14] <jaakko> sara_: did u click "open dvd"? try to switch to xine-engine
[05:15] <jaakko> apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[05:15] <jaakko> Settings -> Player engine -> Kaffeine
[05:15] <robotgeek> karvr: does it need kernel-source or kernel-headers
[05:15] <sara_> kaffeine-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:15] <karvr> source
[05:15] <Alltaken> ok guys, so what is the difference between Gnome and KDE, why would one choose kubuntu over ubuntu? is it just visual, or somthing mroe than that
[05:16] <jaakko> sara_: what ubuntu release you are using?
[05:16] <sara_> kbuntu breezy
[05:16] <karvr> error is ...kernel source files not found
[05:17] <jaakko> Alltaken: haven't read torvald's opinion? it's the thruth, cos' mr. linus is the master of (linux) universe
[05:17] <Alltaken> jaakko:  where would i find this opinion?
[05:17] <jahshua> robotgeek what about using sudo in console while on irc and webpages etc.. is that dangerous ?
[05:17] <robotgeek> jahshua: yes
[05:17] <jaakko> sara_: umm.. have you run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade recently?
[05:17] <jahshua> shit
[05:17] <jahshua> :(
[05:17] <jahshua> i have been doing that alot
[05:17] <jaakko> Alltaken: slashdot.org for example :)
[05:18] <sara_> kakko just did
[05:18] <robotgeek> jahshua: hmm, no i misunderstodd
[05:18] <sara_> jakko
[05:18] <jaakko> jahshua: forget the root account, just use sudo if root access is needed
[05:18] <jahshua> i dont have a root account
[05:18] <jahshua> heh
[05:18] <robotgeek> jahshua: no, browsing on the internet while sudo in console is safe :)
[05:18] <jahshua> i only have one
[05:19] <jahshua> you cant access root on kubuntu right?
[05:19] <robotgeek> jahshua: hmm, actually it's disabled. but you can enable it
[05:19] <jahshua> oh
[05:19] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jahshua about sudo
[05:19] <jahshua> but i have no account for it
[05:20] <robotgeek> jahshua: read the link which ubotu sent you
[05:20] <jaakko> sara_: weird, i think your system is broken or something
[05:20] <jahshua> yes i have read that
[05:20] <jahshua> i was still confused
[05:20] <jahshua> because some people told me different things
[05:20] <jahshua> but now i understand :)
[05:21] <sara_> maybe my sourcelist is screwy
[05:21] <jahshua> what does this do robotgeek sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:21] <jaakko> sara_: as you seem to live in the other side of atlantis, unfortunately i'm not able to come there and fix your dvd playback :/
[05:21] <Mr-Falkor> anyone know about a good source.list for apt ?
[05:21] <robotgeek> sara_: cat /etc/issue , what does it say?
[05:21] <robotgeek> !easysource
[05:21] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:21] <Mr-Falkor> thnx
[05:21] <robotgeek> jahshua: installs gcc and the libraries installed
[05:21] <jaakko> sara_: could you paste your source list? (or
[05:21] <jahshua> what is that
[05:22] <robotgeek> jahshua: a compiler, with which you can compile c,c++, java and other code written in those languages
[05:22] <jahshua> oooh
[05:22] <jahshua> interesting
[05:23] <jahshua> can i install it ?
[05:23] <sara_> i just need the repository for kaffeine-xine
[05:24] <robotgeek> jahshua: if you install build-essential, it gets installed
[05:24] <jaakko> sara_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[05:24] <sara_> thx
[05:24] <jahshua> its a program/package right ?
[05:24] <gverig1> I installed kubuntu (default configuration) and I have no sound now... Any idea (or standard sound fixes)?
[05:25] <robotgeek> gverig1: lsmod, lspci outputs to pastebin :)
[05:25] <Hobbsee> jahshua: yes, it is
[05:25] <jaakko> sara_: kaffeine-xine is in universe, so you need something like deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:25] <sara_> sweet dude
[05:26] <gverig1> robotgeek: All of them or audio-related only?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Whats the default office suite in Kubuntu?
[05:26] <robotgeek> gverig1: it's the pastebin, so i don't mind full. whichever is easier
[05:27] <DaSkreech> the libs for Koffice and Openoffice are both installed but neither suite is
[05:27] <jaakko> sara_: btw, what dvd you're going to watch? :)
[05:27] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: openoffice 2
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Thanks
[05:29] <gverig1> robotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/476207
[05:29] <Alltaken> jaakko:  linus likes KDE because he wants to tweek a crap load of stuff (my summery of his opinion from slashdot)
[05:29] <Alltaken> i think i will try Gnome (i have tried KDE in the past), see what its like.
[05:29] <robotgeek> Alltaken: same here, very configurable :)
[05:29] <jaakko> Alltaken: roger that
[05:30] <sara_> haha   charlie and the choc
[05:30] <jaakko> torvalds is a coder, not UI designer
[05:30] <sara_> im d/l kaffiene-xine
[05:30] <Alltaken> robotgeek:  my last experience with Linux left me not using it coz i spent about 100Hours trying to get 5.1 channel sound working, and never got it to LOL.  out of the box is my perference to highly configurable
[05:31] <robotgeek> gverig1: you are in luck, sound guru crimsun is here
[05:31] <robotgeek> hey crimsun, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/476207
[05:31] <crimsun> that's my cue to "use the restroom"
[05:31] <robotgeek> gverig1: did you try your mixer settings, raise volume etc. cause all the sound modules seem loaded
[05:31] <robotgeek> crimsun: lol
[05:32] <sara_> kaffeine-xine depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2); however:
[05:32] <sara_>   Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[05:32] <sara_> waa waa
[05:32] <gverig1> robotgeek: When I try to set the sount server (autodetect or alsa) I get an error
[05:32] <jaakko> sara_: are you sure you run apt-get DIST-upgrade?
[05:32] <robotgeek> gverig1: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[05:33] <crimsun> gverig1: what's the issue?
[05:33] <gverig1> robotgeek: device can't be opened for playback
[05:33] <sara_> do i have to use kaffeine?
[05:33] <gverig1> robotgeek: restart- both OK
[05:33] <crimsun> gverig1: start by pasting onto pastebin the output of ''cat /proc/asound/cards''
[05:33] <sara_> for dvd?
[05:33] <jaakko> sara_: just boot winxp or wait hd-dvd :D
[05:33] <robotgeek> sara_: no, hold on
[05:34] <robotgeek> sara_: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:34] <gverig1> crimsun: %( the command you gave says something about USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ad
[05:34] <sara_> i cant believe that i have xine, vlc, kaffeine,totem etc and cant plasy a dvd
[05:34] <swim> hey folks does kubuntu have an update notification deally like ubuntu does?
[05:34] <sara_> k
[05:34] <DaSkreech> swim: Good question :)
[05:34] <robotgeek> sara_: then, you need to install libdvdscss
[05:35] <crimsun> gverig1: paste the output onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:35] <robotgeek> sara_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:35] <sara_> k its removed
[05:35] <sara_> its doing it..
[05:35] <gverig1> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/476210
[05:36] <sara_> Unpacking replacement libdvdcss2 ...
[05:36] <sara_> Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1) ...
[05:36] <sara_> is the last line] 
[05:36] <jaakko> Alltaken: what's your sound chip?
[05:36] <gverig1> crimsun: Where in the logs would I look for more details?
[05:37] <crimsun> gverig1: ok in a Konsole, echo snd-via82xx-modem | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:37] <sara_> now hat robotgeek?
[05:37] <sara_> thx by the way
[05:37] <robotgeek> sara_: now, play the dvd
[05:37] <Alltaken> jaakko:  i have blown up that Mobo since then
[05:37] <robotgeek> sara_: enjoy :)
[05:37] <Alltaken> i am on a new computer now, so i dunno yet.
[05:38] <jaakko> Alltaken: cos' i also spend ~10h setting up spdif playback, until i realized i was using coaxial cable while the laptop had optical interface :D
[05:38] <Alltaken> but all three of my Mobos are AC97 codec chips, i assume that is fairly standard sound decoding these days
[05:39] <sara_> when u say play dvd with kaffiene  it just sits there.. no error..but no play
[05:39] <Alltaken> jaakko:  he he.  na i just use the 3 mini plugs
[05:39] <robotgeek> sara_: select xine engine, it shud play
[05:39] <robotgeek> i gotta eat food now, back in 15
[05:40] <gverig1> crimsun: did that, added that entry. What do I do now?
[05:40] <sara_> where do u get the chance to select xine engine?
[05:40] <jaakko> sara_: Settings -> Player engine -> Kaffeine
[05:40] <sara_> k thx
[05:40] <crimsun> gverig1: do you want to use your onboard sound as the primary?
[05:40] <jaakko> not really intuative way
[05:40] <gverig1> crimsun: That's the only one I have (AFAIK)
[05:41] <gverig1> crimsun: So, yeah.
[05:41] <gverig1> crimsun: I take it I need to unload the driver or something...
[05:42] <swim> anyone know if kubuntu has an update notification deally like ubuntu does?
[05:42] <crimsun> gverig1: no, you have two devices, a usb device and a pci onboard one
[05:42] <sara_> it seems to just hang after i select kaffeine in settings... and click open dvd .. it just sits there
[05:42] <Snake__> Does anyone know where I could find a LCARS theme at?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> swim: it doesnt now, there's the adept update manager though, in the kmenu, it should do in the next release
[05:42] <gverig1> crimsun: I don't have a USB device... OH!!! It's probably my webcam with mic...
[05:43] <swim> gotcha thx Hobbsee
[05:43] <gverig1> crimsun: Can you please PM how to fix this? bbl
[05:43] <sara_> how do u get the menu screen
[05:43] <crimsun> gverig1: I can't help you unless you're physically present, just ping me when you return
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Should I take it by that that it's in dapper now?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Or in progress rather
[05:44] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: it's not in dapper now, that i've seen, and it's on the wiki as a planned kubuntu project
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:44] <DaSkreech> I suppose it's a trivial thing to do
[05:47] <Hobbsee> got no idea
[05:58] <Mr-Falkor> I`ve got a problem with glib
[05:59] <Mr-Falkor> When I was trying to compile gaim, I got an error that glib (cant remember) was already installed but it returned glib (cant remember) a newer version
[05:59] <crimsun> Mr-Falkor: sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:00] <crimsun> Mr-Falkor: don't try to compile 2.0beta. It will eat stuff.
[06:00] <satempler> when trying to open up a video file with kaffeine i get an error :No URI handler implemented for "system:/home/Downloads/TWiT_033_h264.mov"
[06:01] <kkathman> crimsun: I also heard there was a mass feedback on some of the features they removed
[06:01] <satempler> now when I change system: to file: and plugin my user name between Downloads and home it works fine
[06:02] <Snake__> is WINE hard to use?
[06:02] <satempler> how do i change my home folder opening system:/home to file:/home/satempler
[06:03] <kkathman> Snake__: not really, but its a bit picky on how well it works with some programs
[06:03] <Snake__> Is it worth my time downloading?
[06:04] <kkathman> check out Frank's Corner Snake before you download
[06:04] <Snake__> Franks corner?
[06:04] <kkathman> Snake__: no I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and attempted again tno I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and yep
[06:05] <kkathman> argghhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:05] <kkathman> wtf
[06:05] <kkathman> Snake__: one sec
[06:05] <Snake__> Okie dokie :)
[06:05] <kkathman> Snake__: http://frankscorner.org/
[06:05] <Snake__> wrong C/P?
[06:05] <kkathman> grrrr sometimes Kvirc retains things it shouldnt
[06:06] <Snake__> lol
[06:06] <kkathman> anyway...thats a really good site for running windows proggies under Linux
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:07] <jrjx> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 5.10 system.  Yesterday, sometime during the day while I wasn't looking at it, my system went wonky such that the hard disk drive activity light went constant on and I couldn't get the system to respond, display anything from the auto screen blanking, etc.  As if something was using ~ 100% CPU and wasn't giving it up.  So, I did as I would for a malfunctioning Win NT-ish system and power cycled w/o cleanly shutting down.
[06:07] <jrjx> Subsequent to the reboot ... now, my bar at the bottom of the screen (I think it's called "kicker") is malfunctioning, not showing me a little button for each separate window I open up, as it was showing to me previously.  I've looked at the online config options and see nothing obviously wrong.
[06:07] <jrjx> What do I need to look at?
[06:07] <Snake__> wtf cedega costs $$???
[06:07] <Snake__> That sucks :(
[06:09] <swim> what's the difference between Adept's full upgrade, and safe upgrade?
[06:11] <jahshua> anyone use Nessus vulnerability scanner with kubuntu ??
[06:11] <DaSkreech> jrjx: Huh?
[06:13] <jrjx> DaSk: You know the bar that normally goes across the bottom of the screen, on the left is the big KDE button and on the right is the system tray and clock, and in the middle every time you open a new window there's a little thingie button that appears corresponding to that window?
[06:13] <jrjx> I'm not getting the thingie button to appear all of a sudden.
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:14] <jrjx> The windows are still opening, and I can switch between them with Alt-Tab, but I can't click on them in my button bar using the mouse.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Can You right click on the kicker and add an applet?
[06:14] <jrjx> Okay, it seems to be called "KDE Panel".
[06:15] <jrjx> Yes.  Lemme see if something is not added that should be ...
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Try taskbar
[06:16] <jrjx> Okay, there it is.  I have no idea why it went away in the first place, tho.
[06:16] <jrjx> Thanks, that was simple (once you know what to look for).  I was thinking something was corrupted and I'd have to reinstall.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:17] <jrjx> (Which would be a pain, consideing I can only use dialup to get at anything I need actoss the network.)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:18] <jrjx> Thankee.
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Sure
[06:19] <DaSkreech> have fun with Kubuntu and get that computer checked out
[06:20] <jrjx> djk: AFAIK I was / am not running "azureus", I don't even know what it is.
[06:20] <jahshua> hello
[06:20] <jahshua> how do i open a .bz2 file
[06:21] <crimsun> you may need to bunzip2 it first
[06:21] <crimsun> if it's a text file, you can just open it with vim
[06:22] <jahshua> its a program
[06:22] <callie> gah!
[06:22] <jahshua> a firewall program
[06:22] <callie> kopete keeps stabbing my system up
[06:23] <crimsun> jahshua: then just extract it using tar xfj
[06:23] <callie> causes it to completely hang wheneve i try to open the configure dialogue
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> remove it then
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> kopete is not the best...
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> imho
[06:23] <callie> you a gaim user?
[06:23] <jahshua> and what do i do with tar.gz files
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> for IM, yea... xchat for this
[06:23] <crimsun> jahshua: tar xfz
[06:24] <admrl> oh my back
[06:24] <DaSkreech> jahshua: Similar
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> tar -xfz file
[06:24] <callie> i dont like gaim really, its ugly
[06:24] <DaSkreech> But functional
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> yea... yeah functional is important
[06:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:24] <admrl> has anyone mentioned amsn
[06:24] <callie> it doesnt do anything that i cant do in kopete
[06:24] <callie> well nothing i need to do
[06:25] <callie> apart from the fact its now causing my whole system to hang
[06:25] <callie> any ideas on where i could start solving this?
[06:26] <admrl> callie: whats it doing..?
[06:26] <jahshua> that command isnt working daskree
[06:26] <jrjx> callie: Did you recently upgrade kopete?  Can you downgrade?  Or upgrade?  Reinstall?
[06:26] <callie> admrl: i click on configure and the whole system freezes, keyboard mouse etc
[06:26] <admrl> are you using a webcam..?
[06:27] <admrl> do you have one plugged into the computer
[06:27] <callie> admrl: yeah
[06:27] <admrl> unplug it ;)
[06:27] <admrl> recompile the webcam drivers
[06:27] <admrl> then it will work
[06:28] <callie> i dont use the webcam
[06:28] <callie> or havent
[06:28] <admrl> doesnt matter
[06:28] <admrl> if your running the latest kopete
[06:29] <admrl> thats my guess wehn you try using a webcam in breezy w/o recompiling the drivers
[06:29] <admrl> than it freezes
[06:29] <callie> i dont even get ot a dialogue
[06:29] <callie> it hangs straight away
[06:29] <admrl> configuring kopete uses webcam on the newest version
[06:29] <admrl> ya i know
[06:29] <admrl> it just freezes cant do a thing
[06:29] <callie> cool, just checking
[06:30] <callie> i have to turn the computer off and on again too which isnt too healthy
[06:30] <admrl> anyone else agree..?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jahshua: Which command?
[06:30] <callie> ok admrl so what now?
[06:30] <admrl> did you unplug it..?
[06:30] <callie> yup
[06:31] <admrl> well hopefully when you try to configure it it will not see your webcam and try to use it and if it freezes
[06:31] <admrl> than we have a different problem wouldnt you agree..?
[06:31] <callie> ok, well lets give it a shot
[06:31] <admrl> lol
[06:31] <admrl> good luck
[06:32] <callie> you're a genius
[06:32] <callie> :D
[06:32] <admrl> it worked..?
[06:32] <callie> yup
[06:32] <admrl> what can i say :)
[06:32] <callie> how the hell did you know that?
[06:32] <admrl> lol just a lucky guess
[06:33] <callie> well, im glad it wasnt a sign of something else much worse
[06:33] <admrl> yes yes
[06:33] <callie> thanks dude
[06:33] <admrl> now you should recompile your webcam drivers do you need help with that also..?
[06:34] <callie> well, as far as im aware linux drivers dont exist for my cam, although i havent checked recently
[06:34] <callie> hence me not using it in linux
[06:34] <admrl> lol well spca5xx contains ALOT of drivers
[06:34] <callie> plus the linux clients only use the older netmeeting protocol
[06:34] <admrl> what..?
[06:35] <admrl> noooooo noo
[06:35] <admrl> kopete can connect to msn webcams
[06:35] <admrl> im assuming thats not thru netmeeting
[06:35] <admrl> thru msn messenger
[06:35] <callie> i think it might be, unless that was part of the update
[06:35] <admrl> i dont know about yahoo
[06:35] <admrl> are you using kde 3.5..?
[06:35] <callie> there's two ways to webcam under msn
[06:36] <callie> yeah, im using kde 3.5
[06:36] <admrl> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=383244
[06:36] <admrl> well try this
[06:37] <admrl> and try "sudo apt-get camorama
[06:37] <admrl> "
[06:37] <admrl> breezy comes with broken webcam drivers and you never know until you try
[06:38] <admrl> its easy im pretty sure you dont even need to reboot
[06:40] <callie> whats camorama?
[06:40] <callie> a util?
[06:40] <admrl> yep ype for viewing webcams
[06:40] <callie> nice one
[06:40] <admrl> just locally
[06:40] <callie> damn! that girl next door is hot as well! ;)
[06:41] <admrl> haha
[06:41] <jrjx> What girl nextdoor?  Where?  How can I meet her?
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> moving -to this one ;)
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> *-OT
[06:41] <callie> fly to london first
[06:43] <admrl> haha
[06:43] <admrl> callie: here is what camorama looks like http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/motion2.png
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> callie: now what ;)
[06:44] <admrl> i had to upload a picture to my tripod so i could show you what it looks like
[06:44] <admrl> its really easy
[06:44] <jrjx> London?  She's in London?  Damn.  I'm not in London.  :-(
[06:46] <callie> shit admrl! i love your desktop
[06:46] <callie> and your themes
[06:46] <admrl> haha
[06:46] <callie> looks purdy
[06:46] <admrl> ya it took me forever to get it all special like that lol
[06:46] <admrl> just for me to change it
[06:46] <callie> you should post it somewhere
[06:46] <admrl> i havnt put out the kbfx button yet
[06:47] <admrl> i was trying to emulate the pureline thing going on
[06:47] <admrl> i got everything but the wallpaper and the kbfx theme from kde-look.org
[06:48] <admrl> you can get the wallpaper from pixelgirlpresents.com
[06:48] <DaSkreech> inkscape :)
[06:48] <callie> now im definately not going to bed
[06:48] <callie> damn you!
[06:48] <admrl> and the kbfx button only i have but if you want it i can put it on tripod for you
[06:48] <admrl> hahaha
[06:48] <callie> kbfx?
[06:48] <admrl> DaSkreech: you use inkscape
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Not me I don't have a designers scrap of DNA in mu body
[06:49] <DaSkreech> We use it a lot at our company
[06:49] <admrl> callie: ya kbfx is like like the kmenu button but its like a windows start menu more but themable
[06:49] <DaSkreech> just upgraded to 0.43
[06:49] <admrl> what company..?
[06:49] <callie> admrl: ah i see, cool
[06:49] <admrl> i LOVE inkscape
[06:49] <DaSkreech> http://www.alteroo.com
[06:49] <admrl> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png
[06:50] <admrl> heres my current desktop
[06:50] <admrl> you can see the kstart menu
[06:50] <admrl> thats kbfx
[06:50] <admrl> *i posted that on here earlier
[06:51] <callie> nice desktop ;)
[06:51] <Mr-Falkor> admrl, how did you get that desktop changer on the right side ?
[06:51] <Mr-Falkor> I cant remember how I did it
[06:51] <admrl> haha its a little secret you make a panel on the side
[06:52] <admrl> and you shrink it and you can make it whatever size you want
[06:52] <Mr-Falkor> admrl, how did you "activate" it ?=
[06:52] <admrl> activate..?
[06:53] <Mr-Falkor> get it there on the desktop
[06:53] <admrl> DaSkreech: thats really really kool
[06:53] <admrl> lol
[06:53] <admrl> right click on a panel that you already have
[06:53] <admrl> then
[06:53] <admrl> add new panel
[06:53] <DaSkreech> admrl: Very very
[06:53] <admrl> then click panel
[06:53] <admrl> what do you do there...?
[06:54] <admrl> DaSkreech..?
[06:54] <admrl> DaSkreech: i was typing without thinking i was trying to direct that questionto you
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Program
[06:55] <DaSkreech> PLone developer
[06:55] <Mr-Falkor> admrl, I have nothing on my new panel, its empty
[06:55] <admrl> Mr-Falkor, Mr-Falkor, Mr-Falkor, you need to add a Pager to it!
[06:55] <admrl> ;)
[06:56] <admrl> right click on it > add applet to panel
[06:56] <admrl> add the desktop pager
[06:56] <Mr-Falkor> ah
[06:56] <Mr-Falkor> there yes
[06:56] <Mr-Falkor> thank you :)
[06:56] <callie> ok, here goes nothing
[06:57] <admrl> callie: what are you trying now..?
[06:58] <callie> admrl: the webcam
[06:58] <admrl> ahhhhh you compiled the drivers than..?
[06:58] <callie> yeah
[06:58] <admrl> exciting
[06:59] <admrl> callie: you should keep us updated :D im excited to hear how you did
[07:00] <admrl> DaSkreech: do you code python..?
[07:00] <admrl> DaSkreech: code in python*****
[07:00] <callie> admrl: still dont see anything but its not crashing anyway
[07:00] <DaSkreech> admrl: Yes
[07:00] <admrl> whats it show..?
[07:01] <callie> just blue screen admrl
[07:01] <admrl> oh yes ummmmm
[07:01] <admrl> there is some modprobe commands that should do the trick
[07:01] <admrl> let me take a look
[07:02] <callie> i can see the spca5xx module is loaded
[07:02] <callie> callie@Pearl:/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media$ caminfo
[07:02] <callie> Detected 0 Video4Linux devices.
[07:02] <admrl> try sudo modprobe -r spca5xx
[07:03] <admrl> than sudo modprobe spca5xx
[07:03] <callie> FATAL: Error removing spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx.ko): Device or resource busy
[07:03] <callie> hmmm
[07:03] <admrl> yep yep close the app thats using the cam
[07:03] <admrl> you always need to do that first
[07:04] <admrl> DaSkreech: where did you learn python
[07:04] <callie> i dont have any open
[07:04] <admrl> DaSkreech: im wanting to learn it
[07:04] <DaSkreech> diveintopython
[07:04] <DaSkreech> it comes with ubuntu
[07:05] <admrl> ummm i remember doing alot of trying to kill /dev/video0 orsomething along those lines
[07:05] <admrl> DaSkreech: where do they have that hidden..?
[07:06] <admrl> and im assuming that your out of luck callie
[07:06] <DaSkreech> locate?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> /usr/share/doc
[07:06] <admrl> yes yes!
[07:06] <admrl> good thinking
[07:06] <callie> i may well be admrl
[07:06] <callie> :)
[07:06] <admrl> im not having a good day i guess
[07:06] <callie> but its a good start i guess
[07:07] <admrl> haha what cam do you have callie
[07:07] <admrl> i will keep my eyes open for drivers
[07:08] <admrl> oh my!!!!! there is soooooo much documentation in here! i didnt even know about it
[07:08] <admrl> thanx DaSkreech
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Sure
[07:09] <callie> logitech quickcam stx admrl
[07:09] <callie> gonna try a reboot and see if it frees up that module, probably wont but its worth a shot
[07:09] <callie> brb
[07:09] <admrl> well your in luck
[07:09] <admrl> !\
[07:09] <ubotu> admrl: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:09] <admrl> logitech supports linux
[07:10] <callie> thats why i bought it, seems i got the only cam thats not supported ;)
[07:10] <callie> just my luck eh!
[07:10] <admrl> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/categories/US/EN,CRID=1794
[07:10] <admrl> lol
[07:10] <admrl> whats that ubotu..?
[07:11] <admrl> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1794,contentid=10235
[07:11] <admrl> are you sure thats not it..?
[07:11] <callie> thats the cam
[07:11] <admrl> oh wait
[07:11] <admrl> yes
[07:11] <admrl> i suck :( i didnt read it
[07:12] <admrl> i was excited for you lol
[07:12] <admrl> i have a quickcam
[07:12] <Cosmosis> dumb question from a noob: I'm planning on installing kubuntu on an old laptop that previously had Windows ME on it.  By installing kubuntu normally, will it overwrite the harddrive and previous OS (which is my hope)?
[07:13] <callie> ok gonna try this reboot
[07:13] <admrl> cosmosis
[07:13] <callie> brb
[07:13] <ggilbert> Cosmosis: it can
[07:13] <ggilbert> Cosmosis: It'll ask you if you want to erase the entire drive
[07:13] <admrl> its not going to overwrite it
[07:13] <admrl> it will format it
[07:13] <admrl> which will remove everything
[07:14] <Cosmosis> great, thanks!  I just wondered since I know it is possible to do a dual-boot, but that's not my wish
[07:14] <admrl> do i suck again!??
[07:14] <admrl> is that my second mistake that statement..?
[07:14] <Cosmosis> so no files and a fresh new version of Kubuntu
[07:14] <admrl> DaScreech why are you beeting me..?!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> It's not going to overwrite it's going to format?
[07:15] <Snake__> admrl: that is the dumbest thing ever...
[07:15] <Snake__> DaSkreech: smack him for me
[07:15] <Snake__> :)
[07:15] <admrl> :(
[07:15] <admrl> ugh i suck twice
[07:15] <Snake__> Formating is over writing the disks withs 0s
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Snake__: Man You are lazy
[07:15] <Snake__> DaSkreech: I know
[07:15] <DaSkreech> We Suck again!!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Ceech and Chong :)
[07:15] <admrl> haha
[07:16] <Snake__> lol
[07:16] <admrl> well Snake__ thank you for your ummmmm
[07:16] <Cosmosis> lol; okay thanks everyone...that answered my question
[07:16] <admrl> expertise ;)
[07:16] <Snake__> Not a problem :)
[07:17] <Snake__> Anytime you need a good smack to the face, i'm here for ya buddy :P
[07:17] <admrl> this is the second time ive been in the kubuntu channel and its making me realize how much #gtlug on slashnet sucks
[07:17] <Snake__> What gtlug?
[07:17] <Snake__> Whats*
[07:17] <DaSkreech> THere is a world outside freenode?
[07:18] <admrl> haha your probably going to slap me again but im im hoping next time it will be with a large trout
[07:18] <admrl> oh yes yes
[07:18] <Snake__> DaSkreech: Not that i'm aware of...well theres irc.mmoradio.com...but thats it
[07:18] <admrl> gtlug is the grand traverse linux user group
[07:18] <admrl> im from the states
[07:18] <Snake__> Never herd of em
[07:18] <Snake__> lol
[07:18] <Snake__> Me too!
[07:18] <Snake__> :)
[07:18] <admrl> michigan to be exact
[07:19] <Snake__> Ohio here
[07:19] <admrl> oh ya we are close but im in the middle of michigan
[07:19] <Snake__> Middle of cleveland.
[07:20] <admrl> are you in highschool...?
[07:20] <Snake__> Yep
[07:20] <admrl> score! what grade
[07:20] <Snake__> 11th
[07:20] <Snake__> ...
[07:20] <Snake__> score..? lol
[07:20] <admrl> i got ya im 12th
[07:20] <admrl> lol i dont know it just came to me
[07:20] <callie> grrrr
[07:20] <admrl> you can slap me now if youd like
[07:21] <callie> so close!
[07:21] <callie> FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format
[07:21] <admrl> callie still doesnt work
[07:21] <admrl> hmmmm
[07:21] <Snake__> Whats she doing?
[07:21] <Snake__> he*
[07:21] <Snake__> (unless your a she..)
[07:21] <Snake__> lol
[07:21] <admrl> trying to get his webcam to work
[07:21] <Snake__> Ah, good luck :)
[07:21] <callie> i am a meat popcicle
[07:22] <admrl> Snake__ ! you know "shes" dont use linux
[07:22] <admrl> haha
[07:22] <Snake__> admrl: Don't you know hobbsee yet??
[07:22] <admrl> (besides shes in my family)
[07:22] <DaSkreech> admrl: There are quite a few female admins
[07:22] <callie> my mum uses linux and she's 60
[07:23] <admrl> i was just joking i recently found an article that the lady that does this month in svn for kde wrote
[07:23] <admrl> (i think it was her) and it was about that and i just wanted to say it
[07:23] <DaSkreech> callanith
[07:23] <DaSkreech> She's fun
[07:23] <DaSkreech> so os annma
[07:23] <Snake__> admrl: If you get a chance, talk to hobbsee in here, she is one of the most intelligent linux users youll find
[07:23] <admrl> ya my mom uses linux also callie*
[07:24] <admrl> and my 6 year old brother
[07:24] <Snake__> wtf? thats the way to do it admrl !! Teach em young!
[07:24] <admrl> haha;) you know it
[07:24] <admrl> hes going to be shell scripting before he hits 4th grade :D
[07:24] <taojah> can someone please tell me how to repartition your hard drive in kubuntu ??
[07:25] <Snake__> admrl: thats seriously a system admin in the making
[07:25] <Snake__> He can make some big $$ doing that
[07:25] <DaSkreech> taojah: qtparted I think
[07:25] <admrl> Snake__: yes yes he is going to be getting there
[07:26] <admrl> im not commenting on partitions any more tonight
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Alt+Space should be much more visible
[07:26] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:26] <admrl> or my face will be beeten raw by DaSkreech
[07:26] <callie> make clean, allows me to rebuild the driver yes?
[07:27] <admrl> Snake__: you do any scripting
[07:27] <taojah> robotgeek can you tell me how to repartition in kubuntu
[07:27] <Snake__> admrl: take it to PM or #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:28] <gwynm> Is it possible to install kubuntu via netboot at all?
[07:28] <robotgeek> taojah: use qtparted
[07:29] <taojah> ok
[07:29] <taojah> thanks
[07:29] <taojah> is it easy or difficult ?
[07:30] <admrl> gwynm no but you can install debian off off 2 floppies
[07:30] <gwynm> admrl: No CD drive, no floppy drive on this laptop.
[07:30] <robotgeek> taojah: should be easy
[07:32] <admrl> oh my how old is it gwynm..?
[07:32] <gwynm> admrl: A couple of years. P4/2Ghz, 1.25Gb of ram.
[07:32] <gwynm> admrl: It *came* with a DVD drive.. it just doesn't work any more, so I pulled it out and swapped it for a second battery.
[07:33] <taojah> has anyone here used qtparted ??
[07:33] <gwynm> taojah: Yeah, I think so.
[07:33] <gwynm> admrl: Looks like you can do an ubuntu netboot with a bit of hacking.. and then it's just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to switch, right?
[07:35] <callie> we have cam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:36] <admrl> callie what did you do!!
[07:36] <robotgeek> callie: but can you transmit?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Oh my eyes my Eyes!!!!!!
[07:36] <callie> i just repeated the steps in that how-to you posted
[07:36] <Mr-Falkor> How can I play .mp3 files in amarok ?
[07:37] <cyle> anybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[07:37] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:37] <admrl> cyle you need to install mp3 codecs
[07:38] <DaSkreech> admrl: He does?
[07:38] <cyle> to solve my mouse lag problems?
[07:38] <admrl> ubotu you explaned it a bit better than i did
[07:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, admrl
[07:38] <DaSkreech> admrl: Assuming cyle is a heish name :)
[07:38] <gverig1> crimsun: Thanks, sound works now (I blacklisted USB driver)
[07:38] <admrl> oh my! lol
[07:38] <admrl> im getting ahead of myself
[07:38] <cyle> american (different spelling for 'kyle')
[07:38] <Mr-Falkor> I can play mp3 formats i xmms
[07:39] <gverig1> Does alsa support multiple sound devices?
[07:39] <crimsun> gverig1: it was the modem portion of the via82xx driver that was messing things up.
[07:39] <Mr-Falkor> but I wanna use amarok
[07:39] <crimsun> gverig1: yes, I have anywhere from 1-4 sound devices running at any given time
[07:39] <robotgeek> callie: what howto, link me :)
[07:39] <gverig1> crimsun: ? Really? I blacklisted the usb-sound-whatever
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Mr-Falkor: xmms is built for playing mp3 you need the codecs for amarok
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Mr-Falkor: Ask ubot about mp3
[07:39] <gverig1> crimsun: snd_usb_audio
[07:39] <crimsun> gverig1: I presume you also blacklisted snd-via82xx-modem as I asked you to.
[07:39] <callie> robotgeek: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=spca5xx
[07:40] <cyle> i had somebody suggest using ps/2 instead of usb for my mouse, which is ridiculous, especially since i had sdl games running great a couple days ago, before i installed kubuntu
[07:40] <gverig1> crimsun: Actually, I commented that one out. It is still there but commented out
[07:40] <robotgeek> callie: aggh, did you enable root?
[07:40] <crimsun> gverig1: you should blacklist it.
[07:40] <Mr-Falkor> DaSkreech, ah, thank you
[07:40] <callie> enable?
[07:41] <callie> give it a password?
[07:41] <robotgeek> callie: sudo passwd root, did you do that (look like you did)
[07:41] <gverig1> crimsun: k. Is there a tutorial on what hotplug system? Also, how do I add other devices?
[07:41] <callie> robotgeek: yeah, why? is that bad?
[07:42] <robotgeek> callie: doing that will leave you with 2 superusers
[07:42] <crimsun> gverig1: add stuff to be blacklisted? Just append them to that file.
[07:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell callie about sudo
[07:42] <crimsun> gverig1: man hotplugi
[07:42] <crimsun> -i
[07:42] <crimsun> don't get too comfortable, though. We've already removed hotplug in Dapper.
[07:42] <callie> robotgeek: i know about sudo
[07:42] <gverig1> crimsun: heh, k. I added both to the blacklist
[07:42] <Snake__> ubotu: Tell admrl who you are
[07:42] <callie> Super User DO
[07:43] <robotgeek> callie: 08:51 < callie> robotgeek: yeah, why? is that bad?
[07:43] <callie> robotgeek: i meant is it bad to have a password for root?
[07:43] <callie> which i cant imagine it is
[07:43] <gverig1> crimsun: How to I add both devices to alsa config?
[07:43] <robotgeek> callie: your gui admin tools won't work with the root user
[07:44] <crimsun> gverig1: remove snd-usb-audio from the blacklist then modprobe it
[07:44] <robotgeek> callie: and most of the guides (except this one), use sudo
[07:44] <callie> i dont ever run gui as root
[07:44] <robotgeek> callie: you might get confused, or complain that it doesn't work
[07:45] <robotgeek> callie: no, i meant stuff like network-admin, synaptic etc
[07:45] <cyle> anybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )
[07:46] <gverig1> crimsun: OK, probbed. How do I choose devices? Is it available through mixer somehow?
[07:46] <crimsun> gverig1: yep, choose in KDE's control panel
[07:46] <robotgeek> callie: i've seen this guide before too. there is not reason to enable root. however, you can disable the root user :)
[07:46] <gverig1> ohh, k :)
[07:46] <callie> i havent encountered anything that doesnt work yet
[07:47] <gverig1> crimsun: I can choose the whole device. Can I use one device for mic and other device for playback?
[07:48] <taojah> well that didnt work
[07:48] <crimsun> gverig1: yes
[07:48] <taojah> has anyone here use fedora 3 redhat linux ?
[07:49] <robotgeek> callie: the basic issue is now both sudo and su will work.
[07:49] <robotgeek> callie: and if your default root password is weak, it's easier to compromise your system.
[07:50] <robotgeek> callie: you can disable it with sudo passwd -l root, but it's your machine :)
[07:50] <gverig1> crimsun: how? In control panel -> Sound system -> Hardware I can "verride device location"
[07:50] <Snake__>          (__)
[07:50] <Snake__>          (oo)
[07:50] <Snake__>    /------\/
[07:50] <robotgeek> Snake__: no ascii art
[07:50] <Snake__>   / |    ||
[07:50] <Snake__>  *  /\---/\
[07:50] <Snake__>     ~~   ~~
[07:50] <Snake__> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[07:50] <Snake__> robotgeek: Sorry, its apt-get moo lol
[07:51] <callie> well i'll delete it for now robotgeek, nice to know how to remove the password too ;)
[07:51] <admrl> haha
[07:51] <robotgeek> Snake__: try aptitude -v moo
[07:51] <Snake__> haha
[07:51] <Snake__> nice
[07:51] <robotgeek> Snake__: and don't ever paste in here. you were one step from being kicked out
[07:52] <Snake__> robotgeek: aw why?
[07:52] <robotgeek> Snake__: no ascii art :)
[07:52] <Snake__> :-P You people need to lighten up
[07:53] <robotgeek> Snake__: that's why you were one step away :)
[07:53] <Snake__> robotgeek: hehe point taken
[07:53] <robotgeek> Snake__: anyways, keep goin aptitude -v -v moo
[07:53] <robotgeek> Snake__: and so on
[07:53] <Snake__> ok
[07:53] <callie> what was that them called again admrl
[07:53] <callie> ?
[07:54] <callie> *theme
[07:54] <admrl> callie..? what are we talking about
[07:54] <admrl> kbfx..?
[07:54] <admrl> the program that made the different kmenu..?
[07:55] <callie> well that too
[07:55] <callie> its kde-look.org yeah?
[07:55] <admrl> ya
[07:55] <admrl> the icon theme and such i got from there
[07:55] <admrl> the wallpaper is from pixelgirlpresents
[07:56] <cyle> anybody have any tips on mouse lag in sdl games (ridiculously slow, even in menus, with super fast vidcard[radon9800pro] )
[07:56] <robotgeek> admrl: how do i theme my kicker? is the one with kde also kicker, or is it a separate proggie?
[07:56] <cyle> thank you guys for your wonderful support :)
[07:58] <admrl> robotgeek: as in kicker are you talking about the panel or the taskbar or the system tray or the kmenu.>?
[07:58] <robotgeek> admrl: the black thingy at the bottom?
[07:59] <admrl> the whole thing..?
[07:59] <robotgeek> admrl: can i have a link to your screenie again?
[08:00] <admrl> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/bar2.png
[08:00] <admrl> there you are
[08:01] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, yes. what's the dark black shiny thing at the bottom :)
[08:01] <admrl> haha
[08:01] <admrl> alrighty
[08:01] <admrl> you need to right click on it and click configure panel
[08:02] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, so make it black and transparent?
[08:02] <admrl> get a nice fancy picture from kde-look.org or make it yourself and then you cand go to appearance and enable background image
[08:02] <admrl> you neeed to use a background image
[08:02] <admrl> its not a color
[08:03] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, sounds like too much work for a background image. most of the time, i'm running a full screen console :)
[08:03] <admrl> than colorize it to match the desktop color scheme
[08:03] <admrl> haha
[08:03] <admrl> ya you get the console people all pointing and clicking and they lose themselves
[08:04] <gverig1> Anybody familiar with setting multiple keyboard layouts? I added layout, set group shift Xkb options
[08:04] <robotgeek> admrl: true, it's unfamiliar territory
[08:04] <gverig1> but I I try to switch and nothing works
[08:04] <admrl> ;)
[08:04] <admrl> we all where there once
[08:05] <admrl> http://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=32518&id=1
[08:05] <admrl> alrighty now
[08:05] <gverig1> I can switch by clicking on the icon but no keyboard switches
[08:05] <admrl> robotgeek: you go there unzip it
[08:05] <admrl> and you put them in a folder and remember where they are
[08:05] <robotgeek> admrl: thanks, konq automatically did it :)
[08:06] <admrl> yep i was going for that :D
[08:06] <admrl> but now you just right click on your panel
[08:06] <admrl> configure panel
[08:06] <robotgeek> hmm, there
[08:07] <admrl> appearance> then put the location ofthe bar on the bottem of the window
[08:07] <admrl> location of the image for the bar**
[08:07] <robotgeek> yup, done that. made panel image as background too
[08:07] <admrl> /home/derek/Desktop/My Pictures/panel.png
[08:07] <admrl> thats what mine looks like
[08:07] <admrl> yap then just apply
[08:07] <admrl> and your good
[08:07] <robotgeek> done. i need to undo what i did before :)
[08:08] <chakie_work> anyone managed to use skype on breezy? on hoary i found no version that actually was installable (library dependency problems)
[08:09] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell chakie_work about skype
[08:09] <admrl> haha
[08:09] <chakie_work> robotgeek: thanks
[08:09] <chakie_work> oo, a howto! nice
[08:09] <robotgeek> now, i need to make the thing visible. i have bad eyes, and a small screen
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Good night
[08:10] <admrl> alrighty robotgeek all you need to do is go to arrangement
[08:10] <admrl> and you can make it thicker
[08:11] <robotgeek> admrl: my desktop switching thing shows up ugly :)
[08:11] <robotgeek> well, fixed that
[08:12] <admrl> robotgeek right click on it and you can make it transparent*
[08:12] <robotgeek> admrl: yup, got it it
[08:12] <admrl> :D
[08:13] <robotgeek> admrl: i can't put the start button? maybe i should change my theme or something, ikons maybe?
[08:13] <robotgeek> admrl: when i am thru, it looks like i'm going to end up with a windows taskbar and a mac window :)
[08:13] <admrl> robotgeek sudo apt-get install kbfx
[08:13] <admrl> haha
[08:14] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, i'm on dapper, and i don't have that
[08:16] <admrl> would you be able to build from source..?
[08:16] <robotgeek> admrl: sure :)
[08:17] <admrl> do you want a link..?
[08:17] <robotgeek> admrl: what does it do?
[08:17] <admrl> its so you can use the start button
[08:17] <admrl> it doesnt do much
[08:17] <admrl> lol
[08:17] <admrl> http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/31392-1.png
[08:18] <admrl> it can turn kmenu into this
[08:18] <robotgeek> admrl: well, lemme get some beer then
[08:18] <admrl> robotgeek: lol
[08:19] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, do you know of any OS X type dock things, other than smoothdock?
[08:19] <admrl> ummm cooldock or something like that
[08:19] <kkathman> robotgeek: you dont like ksmoothdock?
[08:20] <kkathman> robotgeek: I used that exclusively now :)
[08:20] <robotgeek> kkathman: it crashed on me :(
[08:20] <kkathman> REALLY?
[08:20] <robotgeek> kkathman: i compiled it, and it crashed on installation. segfault
[08:20] <kkathman> now I compiled mine from the source
[08:20] <kkathman> not from repos
[08:20] <kkathman> but its been very stable
[08:21] <kkathman> it has a couple of graphical glitches now and again
[08:21] <kkathman> but functionally its been stable as a rock
[08:21] <admrl> robotgeek i used to use it
[08:21] <robotgeek> kkathman: i got mine from sf.net
[08:21] <admrl> one***
[08:21] <admrl> but i cant find it
[08:21] <kkathman> robotgeek:  me too.
[08:22] <admrl> KXDocker..?
[08:22] <admrl> you can use karamba
[08:22] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, apt-get install ?
[08:22] <kkathman> robotgeek:  I tried a few of them
[08:22] <kkathman> kxdock is ok
[08:22] <kkathman> robotgeek: are you using it on dapper or breezy?
[08:22] <robotgeek> kkathman: dapper
[08:22] <kkathman> ahhh
[08:22] <kkathman> well
[08:23] <admrl> i will get you the source robotgeek
[08:23] <robotgeek> admrl: ty
[08:24] <admrl> http://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=10955&id=1
[08:24] <admrl> that is the kxdocker
[08:24] <admrl> uho
[08:24] <admrl> yourgoing to have to look around
[08:25] <robotgeek> admrl: okay, will do ty
[08:25] <admrl> yep yep
[08:26] <kkathman> I think maybe that alot of things wont mesh with dapper quite yet :)
[08:26] <robotgeek> yeah, with kde 4 and all
[08:28] <admrl> robotgeek: do you have superkaramba running yet
[08:29] <robotgeek> admrl: no, not yet. in a minute
[08:29] <admrl> KXdocker isnt a superkaramba app
[08:30] <kkathman> neither is ksmoothdock
[08:30] <robotgeek> admrl: hmm, okay. no problems. i will try this thing out, i wanted to since a long time :)
[08:31] <admrl> :D
[08:34] <robotgeek> oh well, too much eye candy makes my head hurt.
[08:34] <kkathman> lol
[08:34] <admrl> haha i like your style robotgeek
[08:34] <kkathman> impossible to have TOO much eye candy :)
[08:35] <kkathman> j/k
[08:35] <robotgeek> i'll stick with what i have got right now, customizing is for later
[08:35] <kkathman> but thats robotgeek he's 733+
[08:35] <robotgeek> kkathman: c'mon, i'm not leet
[08:35] <Snake__> lol GUIs are for wimps
[08:35] <kkathman> lol yeah you are...you live in at the CLI
[08:36] <kkathman> Snake__: CLI is for geeks
[08:36] <kkathman> hence robotGEEK
[08:36] <kkathman> hehe
[08:36] <kkathman> course we're all geeks on this bus I reckon
[08:36] <Snake__> admrl brings up a good point, its funny that robotgeek couldnt do that, but were sure he could rip the CLI to shreads
[08:37] <robotgeek> heh, yes. i find it quite difficult
[08:37] <satempler> what is the module thats for IR
[08:37] <kkathman> Snake__: try designing a 3d model of an aileron at the CLI
[08:37] <kkathman> hehe
[08:38] <robotgeek> kkathman: now, it's not impossible.
[08:38] <robotgeek> kkathman: but it might be stupid to do that
[08:38] <satempler> any one
[08:38] <Snake__> kkathman: Hmmm something tells me that since I couldn't get a 2d jpg to display, im not gonna get that
[08:38] <robotgeek> satempler: no clue
[08:38] <robotgeek> Snake__: it's all in your head :)
[08:39] <Snake__> robotgeek: how do you view images in a full CLI enviroment?
[08:39] <robotgeek> catia/autocad come with scripting languages, so it is possible to do that.
[08:39] <admrl> i agree with robotgeek its possible
[08:39] <robotgeek> Snake__: it might not be possible to view, but once you are that good. you probably don't need to :)
[08:39] <Kaiser_Away> it is, yuou just need framebuffer stuff
[08:40] <Snake__> Hey Hobbsee's back
[08:40] <Hobbsee> hey Snake__
[08:40] <Hobbsee> i am indeed
[08:40] <Hobbsee> on breezy, at the moment
[08:40] <Snake__> Dont you have work or something?
[08:42] <Mr-Falkor> firefox crashes, and then I get this output: http://pastebin.com/476317
[08:43] <callie> Time for sleepies! night guys and thanks for the help admrl
[08:43] <callie> :D
[08:43] <admrl> yep anytime callie
[08:43] <kkathman> ahhh nighters callie :)
[08:43] <Snake__> Just remeber, reformating does not overwrite..
[08:43] <Snake__> in admrl theory
[08:43] <robotgeek> callie: later
[08:43] <Snake__> :)
[08:43] <callie> night robotgeek
[08:43] <callie> night kkathman
[08:44] <admrl> haha
[08:44] <admrl> thank you Snake
[08:44] <Snake__> :)
[08:44] <kkathman> I should prolly go to bed, have a doctor's appt tomorrow :(
[08:44] <admrl> so do i
[08:45] <admrl> but doctors arnt fun and my computer is :D
[08:45] <kkathman> admrl: I have some sort of URI that needs antibiotics
[08:45] <pine> hello, how can I get skype working? It worked before, but not anymore after fresh install of kubuntu.
[08:45] <pine> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:45] <Tm_T> good morning kids
[08:45] <kkathman> hey Tm_T :)
[08:45] <satempler> what is the module thats for IR
[08:46] <satempler> trying to see if my cell phone will connect
[08:47] <Tm_T> satempler: lirc?
[08:47] <satempler> thats what i though
[08:47] <satempler> t
[08:48] <GoldBuggie> pine: that file is from the  libpng12-0 package
[08:48] <GoldBuggie> pine: if you dont' have it installed to a sudo apt-get install libpng12-0
[08:50] <pine> GoldBuggie: Yup, is installed an all. It's in /usr/lib/ - a symbolic link to libpng12.so.0.1.2.8
[08:52] <pine> I'm on a AMD64 system, does that have anything to do with it? I hav at least /usr/lib, /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib64
[08:52] <GoldBuggie> hmmm...don't know how to make skype to force seeing it. I'm using skype every other day to call home, I dl the Dynamic binary tar.bz2 from skype.org
[08:53] <GoldBuggie> you could try the static binary as well
[08:53] <GoldBuggie> not the best of help but it is a download,,,unzip..and run command thing so it goes quite fast
[08:55] <pine> same thing with the static one =) the missing lib this time is: libXcursor.so.1 - also installed in /usr/lib
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> maybe you coudl do a
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> "strace ./skype"
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> that will spit out alot of
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> information
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> but you can look to where
[08:56] <GoldBuggie> skype is searching for that file
[08:57] <GoldBuggie> then put a link in that place pointint to the correct place
[09:06] <pine> dunno... what does this mean: access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:06] <pine> same with ld.so.preload
[09:09] <admrl> alrighty everyone im heading out
[09:09] <admrl> gnight
[09:09] <pine> the strange thing is that it really worked before. Straight out of the box - the dynamic version from skype.com
[09:10] <Snake__> peace
[09:10] <GoldBuggie> how about libpng12.so.0 or libXcursor.so.1
[09:10] <GoldBuggie> can you find the lines where thwy are opened
[09:11] <GoldBuggie> i whas thinking something like ("PATH/libpng12.so.0", F_OK)
[09:11] <GoldBuggie> then you can see which path it looks in
[09:11] <pine> there's just too many of them =)
[09:11] <pine> eg open("/lib/tls/i686/sse2/cmov/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:12] <GoldBuggie> right
[09:12] <pine> or open("/lib/i486-linux-gnu/cmov/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:12] <GoldBuggie> one is enough
[09:13] <GoldBuggie> and do you have that file /lib/tls/i686/sse2/cmov/libpng12.so.0 ?
[09:13] <pine> well, no. I'll try creating one of those
[09:14] <GoldBuggie> hmmmm....it all is a bit strange...mine lies under /usr/lib only and I have the i686 kernel
[09:15] <GoldBuggie> i'll do a strace on my skype
[09:16] <user_> how come mplayer is not in the repository?
[09:16] <robotgeek> user_: it's in universe
[09:16] <user_> robotgeek: i'm very sorry but i'm really new at ubuntu, debian for that matter
[09:17] <user_> robotgeek: how do i access universe, can i do that using adept?
[09:17] <robotgeek> hmm, yes
[09:17] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell user_ about repos
[09:17] <robotgeek> read that link, it will tell you how to add repos
[09:18] <pine> I created this: /usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 which was in the strace output too. But it won't work.
[09:19] <GoldBuggie> you had a amd 64 ?
[09:20] <pine> yeah
[09:20] <GoldBuggie> ok
[09:20] <GoldBuggie> found something on the homepage saying that
[09:20] <GoldBuggie> you must run it thrue 32 emulation
[09:20] <GoldBuggie> here is link
[09:20] <GoldBuggie> http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=10125
[09:21] <user_> robotgeek: thanks a lot!
[09:21] <robotgeek> user_: sure, no problem
[09:22] <pine> great, thanks for that info. Why it worked before remains a mystery. Didn't do anything different this time around
[09:25] <pine> need to run. I'll try on myown from here. Thanks again GoldBuggie for your help
[09:25] <GoldBuggie> np
[09:27] <user_> robotgeek: mplayer still doesn't show up even after i added the repository and fetched updates...
[09:28] <user_> robotgeek: is there anything else i should do??
[09:28] <robotgeek> user_: apt-cache search mplayer
[09:28] <robotgeek> user_: one second
[09:29] <robotgeek> user_: did you enable multiverse?
[09:30] <user_> robotgeek: the only multiverse that i see is titled breezy-backports
[09:30] <user_> is that the one?
[09:30] <robotgeek> user_: no, in main
[09:32] <user_> robotgeek: oh, hmm urr, maybe i'm looking at something different, i'm looking at adept program's manage repository section
[09:32] <robotgeek> user_: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[09:32] <robotgeek> user_: okay, lemme look into adept
[09:34] <robotgeek> user_: add that as a new repository in Adept -> Manage Respositories
[09:35] <user_> oh ok, that's how you add it ;)
[09:35] <robotgeek> user_: hmm, i am also new to kubuntu :)
[09:36] <user_> user_: i'm totally new to debian in general
[09:36] <user_> robotgeek: sooo gentoo-oriented..
[09:36] <user_> robotgeek: worked! thanks a lot
[09:36] <robotgeek> user_: great, you'll love apt
[09:37] <robotgeek> user_: ubuntu means "tired of compiling gentoo"
[09:37] <user_> i was starting to have a homesick for portage lol
[09:37] <user_> that's true, but that's probably the only downside, as far as i'm concerned
[09:44] <robotgeek> user_: yup, everything is got it's own adv and disdv
[09:45] <user_> robotgeek: now if i can find out a way to have nfs work nicely, and find out how to do s-video output, this would be a great media center...
[09:46] <robotgeek> user_: i have no clue about those two, sorry
[09:46] <robotgeek> user_: search on the wiki though
[09:46] <user_> robotgeek: it's ok, i've done both under gentoo, i'll figure it out ;) thanks for the help again
[09:46] <robotgeek> user_: no problem
[10:02] <orugo> hey
[10:02] <orugo> i need help
[10:02] <orugo> i have a nvidia card
[10:02] <orugo> with the gforce chip
[10:02] <orugo> how can i make it work?
[10:02] <orugo> is the fx5500
[10:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's wrong with it?
[10:03] <orugo> i think that its not working good
[10:03] <orugo> i have 128mb card
[10:03] <orugo> and the TUXRACER is slow
[10:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell orugo about nvidia
[10:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure that swhat i wanted actualy
[10:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> orugo: look at that wiki link and try that
[10:07] <orugo> tks!
[10:25] <hendy> what is the best ssl and its opensource :) i want to used it for apache webserver, can someone suggest me..
[10:26] <MrMazda> http://www.seagatemaxtor.com/
[10:27] <legout> HI. is there a howto for upgrading breezy to flight2??
[10:30] <aftertaf> :)
[10:32] <hendy> and, how can i can be root using "su" command, so i dont need type "sudo something" to get root access?
[10:33] <Hobbsee> sudo -s
[10:33] <Hobbsee> !+root
[10:33] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:35] <hendy> oh, thanks :)
[11:00] <treakath> hey all
[11:00] <Hobbsee> hi treakath
[11:00] <Kaiser_Away> hi treakath
[11:01] <treakath> hey
[11:03] <Zambba> What's wrong with my PC? My kdm and KDE 3.5 are very laggy (it takes some time for mouse cursor to move on screen, a.k.a. lag)
[11:03] <Hobbsee> Zambba: system specs?
[11:03] <Zambba> I have 1 GHz PC with 384 MB of RAM.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> you might be wanting to try xfce/xubuntu...
[11:04] <Kaiser_Away> sif
[11:04] <Kaiser_Away> that box should not lag
[11:04] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[11:05] <Hobbsee> well, that was one solution, i'll be quiet lol - couldnt remember what the minimum specs were
[11:05] <Zambba> ehmm
[11:05] <jpatrick> Certainly not 128MB RAM like mine
[11:05] <Kaiser_Away> Zambba: it may be because 3.5 is still under develpement
[11:05] <Zambba> my hard disk which has /usr is old and slow
[11:06] <jpatrick> change it
[11:06] <Zambba> but it should only longen the loading times, not lag all time
[11:06] <Zambba> I think
[11:06] <Kaiser_Away> does it keep laging after it's loaded? or only while KDE loads?
[11:07] <Zambba> hmm.. now only mouse lags. When I open some menu it opens quickly and operating from keyboard is fast, only mouse usage is slow
[11:08] <treakath> hobbsee and kaiser have you got msn?
[11:09] <Kaiser_Away> treakath: yeh. got Jabber as well.
[11:09] <treakath> you want my msn add
[11:09] <Hobbsee> why not talk in here?
[11:10] <Kaiser_Away> yeh, would be cool :)
[11:10] <treakath> its antonne_de_graaf@hotmail.com
[11:11] <treakath> cause depends where i wanta chat at the time
[11:13] <treakath> add me people that have msn and wanta talk
[11:13] <treakath> kk
[11:13] <Kaiser_Away> just a minute treakath
[11:13] <treakath> okayy
[11:14] <jpatrick> if I have to chat i do it though /notice
[11:15] <jpatrick> treakath: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick
[11:16] <jpatrick> jabber is the best
[11:16] <Kaiser_Away> yeh
[11:18] <treakath> talk to you people on msn later ok bye
[11:26] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: welcome to the Kubuntu Team (didn't see you join eariler now :) )
[11:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:27] <Hobbsee> yeah, joined a few days ago :)
[11:28] <Hobbsee> i had a semi made package of asciiquarium, and it's just sitting there cos i havent had the energy to go and fix it :P - and to write the rest of the documentation for it
[11:28] <jpatrick> I've made a few packages - see my wiki page for whole list
[11:31] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[11:53] <cvt|kubuntu> everything looks a little blurry. do you know how to fix that?
[11:53] <ninnghizidha> Hello!
[11:55] <Hobbsee> hi ninnghizidha
[11:55] <Hobbsee> cvt|kubuntu: the fonts, or everything of everything?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[11:55] <ubotu> it has been said that ask is Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:56] <cvt|kubuntu> everything. and everything's a little too big, Hobbsee
[11:58] <ninnghizidha> Konqueror doenst draw the previews any more. It worked the other day, even the "folders reflect contents". But now, i cant get it working again.
[11:58] <Hobbsee> ninnghizidha: view, preview, make sure all the boxes are checked?
[11:59] <ninnghizidha> all boxes are checked.
[12:00] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[12:00] <Hobbsee> *looks around for more options*
[12:00] <ninnghizidha> new info: the previews work fine, if i click a folde ron my desktop...
[12:00] <ninnghizidha> ... but they dont work, if i start konquerer from the tasklist
[12:02] <ninnghizidha> doubleclicking at a desktopfolder: konqueror shows previews.
[12:02] <ninnghizidha> systemmen - home folder: No previews at all
[12:03] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[12:04] <Riddell> freeflying_: yesterday's CD didn't work, linux modules weren't on it
[12:05] <freeflying_> Riddell: today's dosen't work too
[12:05] <ninnghizidha> at "system:/home" there are no previews, at "/home/ninn" there are previews
[12:07] <ninnghizidha> its wierd
[12:10] <ninnghizidha> got it, HA!
[12:10] <ninnghizidha> :-)
[12:13] <ninnghizidha> the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97343
[12:14] <ninnghizidha> the other question is about views in konqueror....
[12:15] <ninnghizidha> ... i dont know how to shitch profiles and how to use them ...
[12:16] <Hobbsee> ninnghizidha: view, view mode, pick one?
[12:17] <ninnghizidha> oh, thats views ... i was talking about the "profiles"
[12:17] <ninnghizidha> or "view profiles"
[12:18] <ninnghizidha> there is a filemanager-profile, a web-profile, a midnight-comander-profile ...
[12:19] <jpatrick> ninnghizidha: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[12:19] <ninnghizidha> i'll have look, thanks for the hint :-)
[12:24] <cvt|kubuntu> what do i search for in kynaptic to get java?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> !javadebs
[12:31] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[12:31] <Hobbsee> cvt|kubuntu: ^
[12:32] <cvt|kubuntu> thxx
[12:32] <Hobbsee> no problems
[12:33] <ninnghizidha> my Konsole doesnt show any colors.
[12:34] <ninnghizidha> its just black
[12:34] <ninnghizidha> how can i fix that?
[12:34] <ninnghizidha> i want to see my iles and folders colored
[12:35] <GoldBuggie> kate .bashrc ... then go to the lines mentioning PS1
[12:35] <GoldBuggie> you will see some comments mentioning what you need to uncommment to get color
[12:36] <ninnghizidha> bashrc seems blank except an import of the .gtkrc-2.0-file
[12:38] <ninnghizidha> and this file just holds some font-information
[12:38] <GoldBuggie> ok enter this into ".bashrc"
[12:38] <GoldBuggie> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[12:39] <GoldBuggie> that can help ls
[12:39] <GoldBuggie> hmm
[12:39] <GoldBuggie> wait let me check some things
[12:39] <ninnghizidha> oh, this alias works :-)
[12:40] <GoldBuggie> ok
[12:40] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot :-)
[12:40] <GoldBuggie> np
[12:41] <ninnghizidha> what does rc stand for? its nearly everywhere ...
[12:41] <GoldBuggie> if
[12:41] <GoldBuggie> you want to change and get a cool looking prompt
[12:41] <GoldBuggie> enter the following into .bashrc
[12:42] <GoldBuggie> PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '
[12:42] <GoldBuggie> this is the one i use
[12:42] <ninnghizidha> funny! ill try it!
[12:42] <GoldBuggie> you can fiddle with the numbers to change colors
[12:43] <ninnghizidha> thats nice ... thanks a lot :-)
[12:43] <GoldBuggie> np that all there is
[12:43] <GoldBuggie> no more coloring that i can think of
[12:43] <ninnghizidha> thats perfect!
[12:43] <ninnghizidha> :-)
[12:52] <mth`MAW> Moin
[01:08] <ninnghizidha> Kopete sends "&quote;" instead of " to other instant messengers
[01:08] <ninnghizidha> anyone knows how to fix that?
[01:31] <nxv__> hi
[01:31] <DeepBlueGhost> hi
[01:32] <nxv__> since i switched to dapper auto dhcp at bootup doesn't work any more. /etc/network/interfaces still looks good to me. have to run sudo dhclient [eth0]  manual after bootup
[01:33] <DeepBlueGhost> I'm using breezy.  Dapper doesn't work well on this machine.
[01:34] <_mef> hi! can someone tell me how to locate the "kde-wizard" that normally starts after the first login to kde??
[01:35] <_mef> or isn't this part of kde 3.4.3 anymore?
[01:35] <apokryphos> _mef: you're not running 3.5?
[01:36] <_mef> still running 3.4.3, which was part of my bbadger 5.10
[01:36] <apokryphos> _mef: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:37] <_mef> ok i'll install it ... anyways i think this willl not solve my "problem"
[01:37] <apokryphos> _mef: once you've upgraded, install kpersonalizer and run it
[01:38] <apokryphos> that's the first-start kde wizard
[01:38] <_mef> ooooh i see
[01:38] <_mef> big thx!
[01:38] <_mef> thats what ive been searchin for
[01:38] <ninnghizidha> The "volume up" and "volume down" keys work, and i can see the volume-meter, but sound itself doesnt go up or down ...
[01:41] <ninnghizidha> kde offers a a million options
[01:41] <apokryphos> beautiful, isn't it? ;-)
[01:43] <ninnghizidha> hehe ... sure ... :-)
[01:43] <aftertaf> !merryxmas
[01:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, merryxmas is Merry Christmas to you too, and a happy new year :)    (hic) Another sherry ?
[01:45] <ninnghizidha> my volumekeys are not linked to first soundcard, not my second one ... anyone knows how to fix that?
[01:55] <DeepBlueGhost> hello I want to upgrade to KDE 3.5, but synaptic says that  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[01:55] <DeepBlueGhost>  is not a valid source.
[01:56] <DeepBlueGhost> any ideas?
[01:56] <apokryphos> DeepBlueGhost: you're meant to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <apokryphos> if you want to put it into synaptic you'd have to enter it differently
[01:57] <DeepBlueGhost> I put it in sources.list...
[01:57] <aftertaf> DeepBlueGhost:  pastebin your sources.list then
[01:57] <DeepBlueGhost> will do...
[01:57] <aftertaf> ;)
[01:58] <djk_> apokryphos: why doesn't kubuntu use KOffice instead of OOo?
[01:59] <apokryphos> KOffice needs work
[01:59] <djk_> work?
[01:59] <DeepBlueGhost> ok, here it is...http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/476541
[01:59] <apokryphos> (which it's actually getting as of late -- very nice to see. Getting attention; the office suite is/was unfortunately quite lacking)
[01:59] <DeepBlueGhost> you can blame arnie for a lot of the sources.
[01:59] <apokryphos> DeepBlueGhost: sudo apt-get update        ......any errors?
[02:00] <apokryphos> djk_: yup. Kubuntu always has the latest Koffice packs though
[02:00] <apokryphos> (also, on that note, latest dot story: http://dot.kde.org/1135283071/ )
[02:01] <ninnghizidha> there is nothing like file-"emblems" in kde?
[02:01] <DeepBlueGhost> doesn't look like there are errors.
[02:01] <apokryphos> huh?
[02:01] <apokryphos> DeepBlueGhost: if there's nothing saying "error" then it took the source just fine
[02:02] <apokryphos> DeepBlueGhost: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, and then just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:02] <djk_> why would he need kubuntu-desktop?
[02:02] <DeepBlueGhost> I do.  OK, here goes.
[02:03] <apokryphos> djk_: general practice before dist-upgrades, but this way he'd get all the recommended packs with/for 3.5
[02:03] <DeepBlueGhost> yep, get a big long list of them.
[02:04] <DeepBlueGhost> 92 upgrade, 10 new 6 remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:05] <ninnghizidha> can i tint just the folder-icon?
[02:06] <DeepBlueGhost> thanks... it's updating now.  Gonna take a while...
[02:15] <DeepBlueGhost> I got errors... /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2_i386.deb won't install
[02:16] <DeepBlueGhost> oh, see other error.  kdepim is trying to overwrite libkcal2a
[02:16] <DeepBlueGhost> very interesting.
[02:17] <DeepBlueGhost> any clues to now what?
[02:19] <DeepBlueGhost> it seems that everyone disappeared.
[02:20] <DeepBlueGhost> I'll see what I can do about this... hmm, reboot and see what I get?  Nah, just reset X.  Bye...
[02:40] <muzzle> hi
[02:40] <muzzle> how do I install Wine?
[02:40] <muzzle> sudo apt-get install wine, doesn't do it. It says there are no packages to install...
[02:42] <muzzle> or how do I enable universe packages?
[02:43] <Kibou> muzzle: check out http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for the latest wine
[02:54] <Riddell> muzzle: in adept right click on the universe line and choose enable
[02:54] <Riddell> wine is in universe
[03:13] <VincentMX> hi
[03:14] <raphink> hi VincentMX
[03:14] <GoldBuggie> hmmm I'm reading something about journal_data_writeback. Does anyone know if this is enabled in kubuntu and if not why not?
[03:15] <raphink> what is that about GoldBuggie ?
[03:16] <GoldBuggie> well to quote the man page
[03:16] <raphink> hmmm
[03:16] <GoldBuggie>  When  the  filesystem is mounted with journalling enabled, data may be written into the main filesystem after its
[03:16] <GoldBuggie>  metadata has been committed to the journal.  This may increase throughput, however, it  may  allow  old  data  to
[03:16] <GoldBuggie>   appear in files after a crash and journal recovery.
[03:17] <GoldBuggie> seems to be able to increase performance
[03:17] <GoldBuggie> reiser uses it by default
[03:19] <GoldBuggie> hmmm...time to do some testing I think
[03:20] <mefiX> hi!
[03:20] <rev> where can I set the DPI X should use for my display? I changed the driver from "ati" to "fglrx" and now all fonts are supersized... KDE infocenter reports 129 dpi
[03:20] <GoldBuggie> do you know Riddell?
[03:20] <mefiX> how can i install kde 3.5 on my breezy badger version the fastest way?
[03:20] <GoldBuggie> aaah those questions I can answer
[03:21] <GoldBuggie> just add the repository for 3.5
[03:21] <mefiX> k, then?
[03:21] <GoldBuggie> www.kubuntu.org has a link directly to the page that shows which link it is
[03:22] <mefiX> ^^means /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:22] <GoldBuggie> yes
[03:22] <GoldBuggie> add
[03:22] <Riddell> GoldBuggie: hmm?
[03:22] <Riddell> DPI is set by kdm trying to ask your monitor what to use.  it doesn't always work
[03:23] <GoldBuggie> I wanted to know if
[03:23] <rev> can I override this?
[03:23] <sealne> has anyone tried to use digikam with a camera that presents itsself as usb storage?
[03:23] <GoldBuggie> journal_data_writeback
[03:23] <GoldBuggie> is
[03:23] <GoldBuggie> enabled by default in kubuntu
[03:23] <sealne> i can't seem to work out how to get digikam to talk to it
[03:23] <GoldBuggie> i looked it up thrue tune2fs and it seems like a good thing
[03:24] <GoldBuggie> and reiser fs uses it as default
[03:24] <mefiX> ok i have to add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to my /etc/apt/sources.list ???
[03:24] <mefiX> that be enough?
[03:24] <jpatrick> mefiX: yes
[03:25] <mefiX> k have this
[03:25] <mefiX> is "apt-get update" necessary?
[03:25] <jpatrick> mefiX: yes
[03:26] <mefiX> k, done
[03:26] <mefiX> then "apt-get install kde"?
[03:26] <rev> Riddell: can you tell me how to override the DPI settings?
[03:26] <jpatrick> mefiX: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <GoldBuggie> mefiX: you can change dp either by going to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:26] <GoldBuggie> and add
[03:26] <GoldBuggie> DisplaySize  270	203
[03:26] <GoldBuggie> to your
[03:27] <GoldBuggie> monitor section
[03:28] <rev> okay thanks :)
[03:29] <GoldBuggie> eeh...i didn't get to tell the other method :P
[03:29] <GoldBuggie> couldn't remember the file though where X stars
[03:36] <GoldBuggie> other method to change dpi is to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and add -dpi 96 to the ServerArgsLocal
[03:36] <GoldBuggie> i don't know which one is better then the other
[03:37] <rev> GoldBuggie: yup I did that kdmrc thingy
[03:37] <GoldBuggie> right
[03:38] <GoldBuggie> personally i like dpi 108 makes just the right font size for my laptop
[03:38] <rev> now I have another problem... "locate" segfaults everytime :D
[03:45] <osh_> What's the "gam_server"?
[03:46] <chris_> ok folks, I have a rpoblem
[03:47] <chris_> I have no net connection on my machine, and I want to play mp3s
[03:47] <chris_> where can I download copies of akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:53] <hussam> do I need mailx or just postfix?
[04:01] <chris_> sometimes you forget how essential a net connection is to run linux distros
[04:06] <hussam> chris_: indeed, you can get by without internet on windows but not on linux.
[04:07] <chris_> any tips on how/where to get akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad?
[04:07] <jpatrick> chris_: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <jpatrick> or though apt
[04:08] <chris_> jpatrick: apt is a no go, I've no net connection on the box I'm using
[04:09] <jpatrick> download the pkgs from the website then
[04:51] <Lacerta> Good evening everyone.
[04:52] <Lacerta> How come kubuntu wouldn't start when i switched my HD from slave to master?
[04:53] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:53] <Lacerta> yo
[05:04] <jjesse> how do i tell easily how much space i have left?
[05:04] <jjesse> command line way?
[05:04] <Kaiser_Away> Lacerta: because the hdd is looking for hdb to boot, but it's booting hda
[05:04] <Kaiser_Away> jjesse: df -h
[05:07] <Lacerta> Kaiser_Away: I installed Kubuntu to the slave while no master was present. Now i would like to add another HD. How can i fix this?
[05:07] <Kaiser_Away> Lacerta: sorry, it's 2:38 AM here and i just got home, i need to go to sleep. try asking in ubuntu (as it's a boot question), or hope someone here can answer
[05:08] <Lacerta> Kaiser_Schlafen: Ok, good night to you :)
[05:08] <Kaiser_Schlafen> thanks :) good luck
[05:09] <roconnor> I learned today that the CPU speed on my laptop doesn't throttle up for niced process. ... What a nice feature!
[05:14] <mvv> does someone has a dos_bootfloppy.img maybe? I have to flash my BIOS :cry:
[05:23] <admrl> howdie everyone! anything exciting going on
[05:24] <Yan> hello:)
[05:24] <Yan> anyone alive?
[05:24] <mushroom> hello:P
[05:24] <mushroom> yeah .me alive
[05:24] <Yan> sup|?
[05:24] <Yan> :))
[05:24] <mushroom> yep
[05:24] <mushroom> :P
[05:24] <Yan> I have a question
[05:24] <Yan> i have installed ubuntu
[05:24] <admrl> im alive im alive
[05:24] <mushroom> mushroom@ubuntu:~$ uname -a
[05:24] <mushroom> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:24] <admrl> Yan: ubuntu..?
[05:25] <Yan> and noe i have done: 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[05:25] <Yan> noe=now*
[05:25] <admrl> alrighty
[05:25] <Yan> it downloaded and installed every thing
[05:25] <Yan> but how do i run the kde?
[05:25] <mushroom> every thing that kubuntu-desktop needed
[05:26] <Yan> how do i star the service?
[05:26] <Yan> start*
[05:26] <admrl> Yan: thru gdm..?
[05:26] <admrl> or kdm*
[05:26] <Yan> no the second one:S
[05:26] <admrl> are you in gnome now..?
[05:26] <jpatrick> Yan: choose a KDE session in GDM/KDM
[05:26] <Yan> kdm
[05:26] <mushroom> via session
[05:26] <Yan> :|
[05:26] <admrl> Yan if you are in gnome
[05:26] <mushroom> click the gdm 's session link
[05:27] <Yan> where:|
[05:27] <admrl> you can start a new session
[05:27] <Yan> how?? i dun understant u| i am a newbie
[05:27] <admrl> in gnome
[05:27] <admrl> lol
[05:27] <Yan> to reboot the computer?
[05:27] <admrl> you dont need to
[05:27] <jpatrick> Yan: log out
[05:27] <Yan> what is a new session|?
[05:27] <Yan> o..
[05:27] <Yan> :)
[05:27] <Yan> ok
[05:27] <admrl> ye
[05:27] <admrl> yes
[05:28] <Yan> 10x ill be bak ;)
[05:28] <Yan> back*
[05:28] <admrl> lol :)
[05:28] <admrl> then go to session
[05:28] <admrl> and pick kde
[05:28] <admrl> as your default desktop environment
[05:28] <Yan> ok 1 sec
[05:31] <yan> yey!
[05:31] <yan> 10x
[05:31] <admrl> howd it go yan..?
[05:31] <admrl> haha
[05:31] <yan> :)
[05:31] <admrl> and now you can right click on your desktop
[05:31] <admrl> and click start new session
[05:31] <yan> my lovely kde:P
[05:31] <admrl> and go back and forth between kde and gnome
[05:31] <yan> ok
[05:31] <yan> i ve made kde as default
[05:32] <admrl> have you ever used kde before..?
[05:32] <yan> yes on the other comp
[05:32] <yan> but in suse
[05:32] <admrl> only had kde installed on that..?
[05:32] <yan> yes
[05:32] <yan> as a default
[05:32] <yan> i dont like GNOME..
[05:34] <mushroom> aha~i like the GNOME very very much
[05:34] <admrl> i dont like gnome either
[05:34] <yan> :)
[05:35] <mushroom> it just like the conviction
[05:35] <yan> =\
[05:35] <mushroom> ;)))
[05:36] <nickmustoe> quick question, just downloaded kubuntu 5.1 live for powerpc and before I burnt it I was wondering if there were any settings I needed to change to have my powerbook check my optical drive before hard drive.
[05:36] <yan> what irc client do u use? X chat?
[05:36] <mushroom> konversation?
[05:36] <mushroom> you just say you like KDE,why not use konversation?
[05:36] <admrl> yan use whatever feels the most confortable
[05:36] <admrl> in
[05:37] <admrl> i use xchat
[05:37] <mushroom> agree
[05:37] <admrl> if im feeling risky i will use bitchx
[05:37] <admrl> lol
[05:37] <yan> i know only Xchat i have never used anything else:))
[05:37] <admrl> but i feel more comfortable with xchat
[05:37] <admrl> than use xchat
[05:38] <yan> in KDE how do install laguage pack?
[05:38] <mushroom> why not use synaptic to search
[05:39] <yan> in gnome my menu was in russin but in kde the kmenu is n english how can i change it?
[05:39] <yan> o synaptic:)
[05:39] <CoronaLVR> hi guys, I have a problem here and I am asking for your help, I just installed flight 2 and trying to dist-upgrade but it fails on locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb...
[05:40] <mushroom> sorry for I have no idea.:(
[05:40] <admrl> i dont either CoronalVR i havnt tried flight yet
[05:40] <CoronaLVR> ok, another question, how can I tell apt to skip that package
[05:41] <mushroom> ;O
[05:41] <mushroom> It's too hard for me to.....doooooooo
[05:41] <admrl> apt-to skip flight in the dist-upgrade
[05:42] <mushroom> how to do that?can you describe it ? admrl
[05:42] <Foodcoman> Morning
[05:43] <mushroom> Foodcoman: moring is good lol
[05:43] <Foodcoman> =)
[05:43] <mushroom> sorry moring =morning
[05:43] <admrl> i was asking if thats what CoronaLVR meant
[05:44] <admrl> from what i understand if dist-upgrade it upgrades all the packages mentioned in a list on the repository
[05:44] <CoronaLVR> admrl: I whant apt tp dist-upgrade but skip one package
[05:45] <admrl> CoronaLVR: read the man pages for apt-get
[05:45] <admrl> CoronaLVR: man apt-get
[05:45] <mushroom> I think synaptic can do that
[05:46] <admrl> ive never tried a dist-upgrade in synaptic i do everything from the command line but i dont think it is possible
[05:47] <admrl> from the commandline
[05:47] <mushroom> maybe or not~
[05:47] <admrl> dist upgrade in synaptic im assuming would give you the chance to go thru and deselect any package you dont want
[05:47] <admrl> yes dont hold me to that CoronaLVR
[05:47] <mushroom> things change ,peoples change
[05:47] <admrl> but i need to go do dishes i will be right back
[05:48] <mushroom> do dishes?? admrl :what's the meaning?
[05:51] <jpatrick> mushroom: wash the dishes
[05:52] <mushroom> ....thankyou jpatrick
[05:52] <jpatrick> no problem
[05:56] <simlu> hello
[05:57] <bhna> hi
[05:58] <admrl> mushroom: wash dishes :D
[05:58] <admrl> but im back
[05:59] <mushroom> lol it's my first time to seen such style of the words
[05:59] <admrl> lol where are you from mushroom
[06:00] <admrl> what country
[06:00] <mushroom> :) ShangHai China
[06:00] <mushroom> and you?
[06:00] <admrl> im from the states
[06:00] <mushroom> US?
[06:01] <admrl> yes yes
[06:01] <admrl> sorry
[06:01] <mushroom> aha~~~
[06:01] <admrl> ya the united states
[06:01] <mushroom> dont mention it~you r using ubuntu of 5.10?
[06:02] <admrl> yep yep
[06:02] <admrl> i started using ubuntu at hoary last ummm around march or so
[06:02] <admrl> made the switch from fedora
[06:03] <admrl> never went back to a distro using the redhat package manager
[06:03] <mushroom> yeah~=) fedora is the distro I also using
[06:04] <admrl> ya i hate rpm, debian is SOOOOOOOOO much better
[06:04] <mushroom> util using the ubuntu/debian ,I feel I cant leave the ubuntu/debian & apt
[06:04] <admrl> haha
[06:04] <mushroom> keke~
[06:04] <admrl> ya thats how im feeling
[06:05] <admrl> ive been wanting to try opensuse but im forcing myself not to
[06:05] <mushroom> ah~Using ubuntu like the relaxing myself
[06:05] <mushroom> hah
[06:05] <mushroom> lol
[06:05] <admrl> haha] 
[06:06] <mushroom> ubuntu 's  occupy your PC
[06:06] <mushroom> occupied
[06:06] <admrl> yep yep
[06:06] <admrl> do you ever use tuxmachines.org
[06:07] <admrl> is there anyone on here that goes to tuxmachines.org
[06:07] <admrl> for news
[06:07] <mushroom> excuse me ,what's  that?web site?or distro?
[06:07] <admrl> website
[06:07] <mushroom> okey~I 'll see it
[06:07] <admrl> it gets news from a TON of sources and updates 2 or 3 times a day
[06:07] <mushroom> wow.it's neat
[06:08] <admrl> ya i check it allt he time
[06:08] <sproingie> golly, microsoft rumored to have bought opera...
[06:08] <admrl> and it has rss feeds
[06:08] <sproingie> i guess it aggregates, not fact-checks
[06:08] <admrl> sproingie: where did you find that..?
[06:08] <sproingie> admrl: on the front page.  it's patently nonsense of course
[06:09] <admrl> oh i havnt gotten down that far
[06:09] <sproingie> in fact there seems to be more microsoft news than linux
[06:09] <sproingie> i always liked lwn
[06:09] <admrl> haha ya it usually has things about whats going on with microsoft
[06:09] <admrl> oswars :D
[06:10] <sproingie> pass.  i run whatever gets my job done
[06:10] <sproingie> i'm mostly getting back into java anyway so it's all about the same to me
[06:10] <mushroom> yep.that's also my approach
[06:10] <pc3> anyone help
[06:10] <sproingie> pc3: just ask
[06:10] <mushroom> seeign
[06:11] <admrl> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/4177 i thought this was interesting 2.4 million dollars a day
[06:11] <mushroom> :O
[06:12] <pc3> i'm trying to install cedega 4.2.1.rpm but I seem to be doing something wrong
[06:12] <admrl> pc3: id suggest finding the shell script for installing
[06:12] <admrl> it
[06:12] <mushroom> why not using deb package
[06:12] <sproingie> cedega offers a .deb, no?
[06:13] <McScruff> i have vmware installed, and went to add a parrallel port but ubuntu isnt detecting it, is there any reason why this is
[06:13] <pc3> it depends on libpng3, I installed it but it can't find it
[06:13] <sproingie> McScruff: stupid question ... did you reboot your image after adding the port?
[06:13] <mushroom> apt-cache search libpng3
[06:13] <sproingie> my question being stupid that is :)
[06:13] <pc3> I'm installing it with deb file
[06:13] <admrl> well now pc3 your going to need to find where its looking for libpng3 and install it to that directory
[06:14] <McScruff> sproinge, u cant change settings while image is on :)
[06:14] <sproingie> McScruff: oh, didn't know that.  been a while since i've used vmware
[06:14] <McScruff> sproinge, but when u add cdrom and FDD it shows the path of it and it dont for parrellel port
[06:14] <sproingie> McScruff: try going into the bios setup in your image, see if it's been enabled
[06:15] <McScruff> its b4 i boot the image
[06:15] <McScruff> in vmware settings Before i load any image
[06:15] <sproingie> you mean vmware doesn't have a parallel port to add?
[06:15] <sproingie> oh, you want to add the actual physical parallel port
[06:16] <sproingie> *smack* ... doesn't make much sense to have a virtual one
[06:16] <neoncode> amaroK won't work on my computer... When I launch it, it shows the the amaroK splash image then it shows up in the system tray then closes...
[06:16] <pc3> how do I find out where its looking for libpng3?
[06:16] <McScruff> it does, i add it then it links to my physical parrallel port but it cant find my phsyical one
[06:16] <sproingie> McScruff: can linux normally find it, i.e. can you print?
[06:16] <mushroom> neoncode: I 'am also using the amarok
[06:16] <McScruff> on a diff distro i have used the parrellel port
[06:16] <McScruff> :)
[06:16] <neoncode> mushroom: Does your's work?
[06:17] <pc3> admrl:  how do I find out where its looking for libpng3?
[06:17] <sproingie> possibly ubuntu has problems with it.  get it working locally first
[06:17] <mushroom> neoncode: yeah works well
[06:17] <neoncode> mushroom: Do you have KDE 3.5?
[06:17] <sproingie> pc3: if you're installing from a deb, it's probably looking for a libpng3 deb
[06:17] <sproingie> i didn't even know there was a libpng3
[06:17] <mushroom> neoncode: no,I have kde 3.4.3
[06:17] <sproingie> alas, there it is.
[06:18] <sproingie> pc3: sudo apt-get install libpng3
[06:18] <neoncode> mushroom: That might be it... does anyone else have amarok in KDE 3.5?
[06:18] <mushroom> neoncode: and my amarok'e version is 1 .3.6
[06:18] <pc3> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:18] <pc3> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:19] <admrl> mushroom yes i have am arok
[06:19] <admrl> amarok
[06:19] <mushroom> admrl: with kde3.5?
[06:19] <admrl> yes
[06:19] <admrl> but i need to go take my little brother to my grandmas i will be back in a second
[06:20] <mushroom> admrl: maybe you can help neoncode
[06:20] <McScruff> sproinge, i cant test it locally as i have nothing to test it with
[06:20] <admrl> i have to go for like 10 minutes
[06:20] <mushroom> admrl: hah
[06:20] <neoncode> I have the repo version of amarok... Ahh oh well...
[06:20] <jpatrick> neoncode: amarok doesn't come with KDE
[06:21] <neoncode> jpatrick: KDE 3.5 is not the problem then...
[06:21] <jpatrick> no
[06:21] <mushroom> neoncode: what's the mainly problem?
[06:22] <neoncode> mushroom: It opens displays it's splash screen, appears in the system tray then closes.
[06:22] <jpatrick> neoncode: have you seen: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php ?
[06:22] <neoncode> jpatrick: Nope, this might be it.
[06:23] <pc3> admrl: is there a command that checks the dependancies for CEDEGA
[06:24] <mushroom> neoncode: run amarok in command line mode and then you'll get the error code
[06:24] <neoncode> mushroom: I'm half way though the 1.3.7 upgrade...#
[06:24] <mushroom> neoncode: faint
[06:25] <mushroom> neoncode: then I have no idea ....:(
[06:30] <jpatrick> I'm off
[06:39] <Robdor> where do I find my public ssh key?
[06:39] <osh_> Robdor: ~/.ssh/
[06:40] <Robdor> I only have the file known_hosts is it in that?
[06:42] <osh_> Robdor: have you generated a key then?
[06:43] <Robdor> osh_:  I thought I had a while ago, but I guess I didn't...
[06:43] <aballek_> hello
[06:43] <osh_> Robdor: afaik it should be located in .ssh. I'm not at my work-comp now but I'm pretty sure the file is in that dir.
[06:44] <Robdor> osh_: thanks
[06:45] <manveru> guys, someone can help me with a heavy apt-get/dpkg problem?
[06:45] <manveru> wait a second, gathering some info to paste....
[06:45] <sophie_> hello all I have a question about krename
[06:46] <osh_> manveru: please make sure you use the pastebin-service.
[06:46] <sophie_> in breezy when installed very litle plugins are avalaiblre
[06:46] <admrl> pc3 if you installed amarok from source code you can do make depend i think
[06:46] <manveru> osh_: of course :)
[06:47] <manveru> and another thing - is seveas-repo down?
[06:51] <admrl> can anyone verify make depend..?
[06:54] <manveru> however, whenever i do a dpkg --configure -a #(wich is what dpkg tells me everytime i do an update or want to install something)
[06:55] <manveru> my dpkg hangs at gstreamer-plugins
[06:55] <manveru> that means - at all of them
[06:55] <manveru> i can ctrl+c through some of them, but it hangs up at another... is there some way i can deque them?
[06:56] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[06:56] <manveru> hey
[06:57] <Ti_Uhl> my system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries
[06:57] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:57] <Ti_Uhl> brb
[06:57] <Ti_Uhl> i need to go to diner
[06:57] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:58] <Ti_Uhl> parents are yelling my ass of :)
[06:58] <Ti_Uhl> brb
[06:58] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:58] <manveru> k
[07:01] <admrl> oh my x froze then vt1 froze and wouldnt let me change when i tried restarting gdm lol
[07:01] <admrl> i had to restart
[07:05] <admrl> my box is having a problem with limewire everytime i start it it freezes
[07:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> limewire has problems
[07:06] <admrl> ya its seeming like it
[07:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> freezes on startup even on Win-Blows
[07:06] <admrl> i think its the java installed on my computer
[07:06] <admrl> oh... hmmm
[07:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> well, that's possible
[07:07] <admrl> im going to try it in enlightenment
[07:07] <Sneaky_Bastard> could be the moron author used windows-specific java "extensions"
[07:07] <Sneaky_Bastard> dunno
[07:07] <admrl> sneaky_Bastard: lol
[07:08] <brokendreams> hello
[07:09] <admrl> i dont know how it would be any different since im thinking limewire doesnt have any desktop ?intagration? and runs all on java
[07:09] <admrl> but i might be wrong
[07:10] <brokendreams> hello
[07:11] <brokendreams> i need somehelp
[07:12] <admrl> brokendreams: with what?
[07:12] <brokendreams> when i try to run AlienArena it alll seems to be going fine but then it says
[07:12] <brokendreams> ./AlienArena: line 5: 19876 Bus error               ./crx +set game arena $*
[07:12] <admrl> is that a windows game you are running in wine or cedega..?
[07:12] <brokendreams> and in the AA forums they said it was my sound drivers
[07:13] <brokendreams> but my sound works fine
[07:13] <Sneaky_Bastard> admrl: if he developed using Micro$haft's JVM, instead of Sun's it could be screwed up.
[07:13] <admrl> Sneaky_Bastard why would he do such a thing!?
[07:14] <admrl> brokendreams: if your running it with wine or cedega i cant help im not a gamer
[07:15] <SAM_theman> yo people
[07:15] <SAM_theman> i need help
[07:16] <SAM_theman> my sound an't working
[07:16] <SAM_theman> Help!!
[07:16] <admrl> what sound card
[07:16] <admrl> SAM_theman you need to give us info
[07:16] <SAM_theman> have no idea
[07:16] <admrl> we cant just fix it for you
[07:16] <SAM_theman> ok listen
[07:17] <admrl> does any one know if cat /dev/*audiodevice* would give him any info on it..?
[07:17] <kkathman> admrl:  lspci might help
[07:17] <pussfeller> if it works in gnome, then its not the sound drivers, its the engine, arts, esd, alsa etc
[07:17] <kkathman> if its external
[07:17] <SAM_theman> i open xmms or Amarok and for amarok it says some gstreamer error
[07:17] <SAM_theman> but on gnome it works Fine
[07:17] <admrl> i didnt know there was an lspci i thought it was only lsusb
[07:18] <admrl> alrighty SAM_theman
[07:18] <kkathman> SAM_theman: do you know if your sound card is on the motherboard, or do you have a separate card for it?
[07:18] <admrl> what id suggest is get a new engine for gstreamer
[07:18] <admrl> for amarok
[07:18] <admrl> *(***
[07:18] <kkathman> admrl: yah maybe xine
[07:18] <SAM_theman> no its separte
[07:18] <admrl> instead of gstreamer
[07:18] <admrl> such as xine
[07:18] <SAM_theman> *separate
[07:18] <admrl> yes yes kkathman thats what i was thinking
[07:19] <pussfeller> yeah with amarok the preffered engine is xine
[07:19] <pussfeller> well, with anything
[07:19] <admrl> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[07:19] <bouncing> When I try to play KEXP in Amorak, it just kind of flashes the visualization and doesn't do anything. thoughts? (http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls)
[07:19] <admrl> SAM_theman: try that
[07:19] <admrl> then go to engine in the configuration and change the engine to xine
[07:19] <admrl> i dont remember how to get to it
[07:19] <pussfeller> gstreamer is still kinda cludgy
[07:20] <admrl> i dont like gstreamer much
[07:20] <admrl> ubuntu loves it tho
[07:20] <pussfeller> its a great idea
[07:20] <admrl> it doesnt love ubuntu ;)
[07:20] <pussfeller> but it hasnt really gotten "there" yet
[07:20] <SAM_theman> its installing
[07:20] <SAM_theman> i mean downloading
[07:20] <bouncing> anyone... streaming radio not working in amorak?
[07:20] <SAM_theman> but but what about xmms ?
[07:20] <pussfeller> dont you need libmad0 with xine to play mp3s?
[07:20] <bouncing> xmms works great
[07:21] <SAM_theman> see amarok works in Gnome and Xmms
[07:21] <pussfeller> i had to find a custom xine deb, but then I use the svn
[07:21] <bouncing> pussfeller: I have it. I can play mp3s fine, and actually, other internet radio stations, but something about their playlist doesn't jive
[07:21] <admrl> SAM_theman find a way to get xmms to use like alsasink or ossink just switch it
[07:21] <admrl> and it should go fine
[07:21] <SAM_theman> now i get [GStreamer Error] 
[07:22] <pussfeller> SAM_theman: the source of your actual problem is that amarok was configured to have gstreamer use arts, or esd or something
[07:22] <pussfeller> or maybe even alsasink, and you needed ossink
[07:22] <pussfeller> i know this is a pain
[07:23] <aballek_> hi, How can I see my units in Konqueror
[07:23] <admrl> pussfeller thats why i went to xine
[07:23] <SAM_theman> ok its working :D
[07:23] <pussfeller> if i was a gazilionaire, I would pay mad cash to get linux sound standardized
[07:23] <admrl> what do you mean units aballek_
[07:23] <SAM_theman> i put it to xine :D
[07:23] <sophie_> anyone know how to use krename configure plugins I only have 4 plugins
[07:23] <aballek_> admrl, my har drives
[07:23] <aballek_> hard
[07:23] <admrl> blocks and such..?
[07:23] <pussfeller> i would bribe distros and devs around the world to work on one single solution
[07:23] <admrl> i have no idea
[07:24] <aballek_> admrl,  the problem is that I sont have acces to the drives thru konqueror
[07:24] <admrl> pussfeller im in on that one with you :D
[07:24] <admrl> whats it give you..?
[07:24] <hugelmopf> pussfeller: better two. i would never want to be without choice.
[07:24] <admrl> say you dont have permission..?
[07:24] <pussfeller> well lets get one choice working first and then try other ways
[07:24] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/476845
[07:24] <SAM_theman> :C
[07:25] <admrl> id gksudo konqueror and try doing it from there maybe..?
[07:25] <admrl> if that doesnt work come back
[07:26] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: can i help with a problem or is somebody else trying to help you already?
[07:26] <SAM_theman> ok guys let me ask you a question ok
[07:27] <SAM_theman> you can if you want :D
[07:27] <aballek_> admrl, how should I do it?
[07:27] <pussfeller> SAM_theman: it sounds like another program is using the sound card
[07:27] <SAM_theman> Nope
[07:27] <pussfeller> in linux, software mixing is still tricky
[07:27] <admrl> aballek_ use konsole
[07:27] <admrl> sudo konqueror
[07:27] <pussfeller> lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[07:27] <admrl> your password
[07:27] <triode> hello. How can I create a shared folder between two computers on a network?
[07:28] <admrl> then media:/
[07:28] <admrl> i think
[07:28] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: if you are using KDE, then install "xmms-arts" and choose arts as audio-backend.
[07:28] <pussfeller> triode: nfs for linux to linux, samba for windows to linux
[07:28] <admrl> triode what are you planning on using..?
[07:28] <triode> linux to linux
[07:29] <SAM_theman> Heres my question is there a way i can unistall kde and any application that deals with it everything that Deals with KDE and the folders that saves every thing that deals with it.I mean just no KDE so i can do a fresh install of it.I admit i was tweaking some stuff on it i
[07:29] <triode> I have two laptops, I want to share some files thru my wireless lan
[07:29] <admrl> wouldnt ssh and fish:/ work just as well pussfeller
[07:29] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: i assume your user is already in the audio group (the default user created during installation is in there.)
[07:29] <pussfeller> i never used that admrl
[07:29] <triode> pussfeller, Ill research 'nfs'
[07:29] <admrl> SAM_theman sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop..?
[07:29] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: by tweaking, do you mean changing user settings, or really editing system files?
[07:30] <admrl> alrighty im no leet haxor so id go with nfs
[07:30] <pussfeller> triode: its in yer control panel under network/file sharing
[07:30] <SAM_theman> i did then i installed it again and everything was still saves like KDE applications
[07:30] <hugelmopf> admrl, SAM_theman : this won't remove kde, just the virtual package kubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <SAM_theman> wallpapers i downloaded everything even superKaramba
[07:30] <admrl> lol hugelmopf im sorry i was just guessing
[07:30] <aballek_> admrl, but there in media:/ I cant see the units there, how can I link them to konqueror or somethig like that
[07:30] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: if you did all this as user, you only need to "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old"
[07:30] <pussfeller> does kubuntu enable arts by default
[07:30] <admrl> im not the one to go to for that
[07:31] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: one second
[07:31] <pussfeller> maybe arts is running
[07:31] <admrl> pussfeller no i dont think it does
[07:31] <admrl> i thought i had to install arts
[07:31] <pussfeller> arts has gtg
[07:31] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: you should logout first and do this on the console ("Ctrl-Alt-F1"), then switch back to X ("Ctrl-Alt-F7")
[07:31] <SAM_theman> Becuase i worked so hard on gnome that i don't want to reinstall ubuntu again (www.putfile.com/sammy2005)
[07:31] <triode> pussfeller: thanks!
[07:32] <pussfeller> np
[07:32] <SAM_theman> i want to like remove everything that deals with KDE Every thing
[07:32] <SAM_theman> xmms works now
[07:33] <Ti_Uhl> my system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries. The reason why i need the file is because i get configure errors when i try to build a qt app. It can't find X includes so i think i need to add /usr/X11R6/lib/includes
[07:33] <aballek_> admrl, thanks anyway I have to g now
[07:33] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: as long as you did not edit any system files of KDE (in /usr/...), you only have to move your user settings out of the way, as described above. maybe additionally "mv ~/.superkaramba ~/.superkaramba_old"
[07:33] <SAM_theman> i also have like a 2GB of all my songs
[07:33] <admrl> sorry aballek_
[07:34] <aballek_> it's not very important
[07:34] <aballek_> bye
[07:34] <SAM_theman> so when i install kubuntu again everything will be as new as an Hummer H3?
[07:34] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: if you have any emails in kontact/kmail, they will also be moved out of the way by that, but you can copy them back.
[07:34] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: are you even listening to me?
[07:34] <triode> pussfeller: all options are grayed out even when going in administrator mode? any idea on what I can do?
[07:34] <SAM_theman> yes
[07:34] <SAM_theman> my dad was telling me somthing
[07:34] <pussfeller> hmm
[07:34] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: i am talking and talking what you can do and you just ignore it.
[07:34] <SAM_theman> no no
[07:34] <SAM_theman> i was reading as well
[07:35] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: read my last posts that start with your nick and you should be able to get your kde back to default settings.
[07:35] <joshua> how do you run nmap and whats is it used for ??
[07:35] <Ti_Uhl> my system seems to be missing an ld.so.conf file but when i type ldconfig -v it finds a lot of libraries. The reason why i need the file is because i get configure errors when i try to build a qt app. It can't find X includes so i think i need to add /usr/X11R6/lib/includes ? anyone ?
[07:35] <triode> pussfeller: I am in the Kubuntu system settings under the "sharing" menu
[07:35] <sampan> !xincludes
[07:35] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[07:36] <sampan> ti_uhl  see ubotu's line ^^^
[07:36] <pussfeller> triode: might have to do a sudo kcontrol
[07:36] <pussfeller> i hear sometimes the administrator mode in the kcontrol dont work all the time
[07:37] <pussfeller> or maybe you need to add a share first
[07:37] <admrl> yes pussfeller i agree
[07:37] <admrl> id try the sudo kcontrol
[07:37] <Ti_Uhl> thx ubotu
[07:37] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[07:37] <Ti_Uhl> i'm installing them as we speak :)
[07:38] <Ti_Uhl> hopefully this will work :)
[07:38] <SAM_theman> huge u there?
[07:38] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: yes
[07:39] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: if the steps above confused you, tell me. i can explain them a bit more in order, if you want.
[07:39] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <SAM_theman> Reading package lists... Done
[07:39] <SAM_theman> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:39] <SAM_theman> Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[07:39] <SAM_theman> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:39] <Ti_Uhl> ubotu: now it's complaining about QT headers and libs
[07:39] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[07:39] <ubotu> Ti_Uhl: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:39] <hugelmopf> Ti_Uhl: it is a bot.
[07:40] <Ti_Uhl> lol
[07:40] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[07:40] <hugelmopf> !qt
[07:40] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:40] <hugelmopf> Ti_Uhl: ^^ try that one.
[07:41] <SAM_theman> i unistalled that to
[07:41] <pussfeller> eh when i right click on a mount on my desktop, i dont get the mount unmount menu
[07:41] <pussfeller> whats up with that
[07:41] <SAM_theman> i rember i need that to install some stuff for my compiling
[07:41] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: ok, you do _not_ need to uninstall anything.
[07:42] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: most likely you will only have to remove your user-specific KDE-settings, to get it back to default.
[07:42] <admrl> enlightenment crashed im having the worst luck today
[07:42] <SAM_theman> hmm....
[07:42] <admrl> threw me back into gdm
[07:42] <SAM_theman> because i sweard a few things up in KDe
[07:42] <SAM_theman> *screwed
[07:42] <Ti_Uhl> !kde
[07:42] <ubotu> somebody said kde was A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:42] <SAM_theman> a whole lot of things
[07:43] <Ti_Uhl> now i need the kde headers
[07:43] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: but most likely you screwed them up as user, and not with sudo, right?
[07:43] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[07:43] <SAM_theman> i think its because i am on KDE 3.5
[07:43] <triode> pussfeller: how can I add a share?
[07:43] <SAM_theman> both
[07:43] <hugelmopf> !kde-dev
[07:43] <ubotu> hugelmopf: Are you on ritalin?
[07:43] <pussfeller> ah it somehow got off "use settings for media group"
[07:43] <SAM_theman> wehn i was on 3.4.3 never had any problem
[07:43] <admrl> ubotu i am1!!!
[07:43] <SAM_theman> *when
[07:43] <ubotu> admrl: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:43] <pussfeller> triode: click on Add over at the right
[07:44] <SAM_theman> damn my mom got it firts
[07:44] <admrl> i got my subscription renewed today more ritalin yay!
[07:44] <SAM_theman> *first
[07:44] <admrl> sam_theman:haha
[07:44] <triode> pussfeller: I'm sorry, where?
[07:45] <hugelmopf> Ti_Uhl: try "sudo apt-get install kde-devel"
[07:45] <SAM_theman> who here is on KDE 3.5?
[07:45] <pussfeller> on the right in the file sharing panel, towards the middle
[07:46] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: you can always go back to 3.4.3 by removing the 3.5 line in /etc/apt/sources.list and then updating/upgrading
[07:46] <admrl> SAM_theman i am using kde 3.5
[07:46] <SAM_theman> yeah thats what i am going to do my friend :D
[07:46] <SAM_theman> WHAT!!!
[07:46] <admrl> yes
[07:46] <SAM_theman> well i try it one more time sinse huge told me what to do
[07:46] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: but most likely that is not the reason for the problem. i am also running 3.5
[07:47] <admrl> apt wont see kde 3.5but i think youd need to dist-upgrade
[07:48] <hugelmopf> admrl: yes, i think you are right.
[07:48] <admrl> :D
[07:48] <admrl> yes yes it does happen every once in awhile
[07:49] <SAM_theman> ahhh.... that felt better
[07:49] <admrl> id say i get like 2 out of  ummm
[07:49] <sander> Anyone here running dapper?
[07:49] <admrl> 25 or so ;)
[07:49] <leafw> is there any way to stop the airport from powering up every time the computer wakes up ?
[07:49] <admrl> robotgeek was last ngiht
[07:49] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: logout, go to the controle (Ctrl-Alt-F1), login, "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old", "mv ~/.superkaramba ~/.superkaramba_old", go to X (Ctrl-Alt-F7), login ==> fresh KDE
[07:50] <hugelmopf> *console
[07:50] <sander> I tried flight 2 and it was a little incomplete, I was wondering if it was better since r7 was released.
[07:50] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: if this does not bring KDE back to default, you might want to reinstall or downgrade to 3.4.3, but try it first.
[07:50] <triode> pussfeller: Its still grayed out, maybe I don't have the required packages installed?
[07:50] <SAM_theman> roger
[07:52] <Flixor-> -join #digikam
[07:52] <Flixor-> sorry
[07:52] <admrl> flixor its a /*
[07:53] <hugelmopf> Flixor-: that was a european keyboard... ;-)
[07:53] <Flixor-> ehm not realy hugelmopf
[07:53] <Flixor-> i am logged in to my box via nxclient
[07:53] <admrl> lol lol
[07:53] <Flixor-> and the keyboard doesnt work good
[07:53] <Flixor-> dont know how to change it so it works good
[07:53] <hugelmopf> Flixor-: i see. just thought because where the / is on american keyboards, i have the - on my german one ;-)
[07:54] <leafw> anyone can run glxgears over an ssh -X session? Fails on me.
[07:54] <Flixor-> oke
[07:54] <Flixor-> where is tha @ on that keyboard hugelmopf
[07:54] <hugelmopf> AltGr - Q
[07:54] <Flixor-> on the american keyboard
[07:54] <hugelmopf> american is Shift-2 i believe?
[07:55] <leafw> yes, shift+2
[07:57] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: you getting along? i have to go...
[07:59] <SAM_theman> ok i am bacjk
[07:59] <SAM_theman> i was making instant soup ok
[07:59] <SAM_theman> bye bye
[07:59] <SAM_theman> *back
[07:59] <hugelmopf> SAM_theman: good luck :)
[07:59] <SAM_theman> :
[07:59] <SAM_theman> D
[08:00] <SAM_theman> were u go?
[08:00] <SAM_theman> srry if i am talking liek a 4 year-old i am eating Hot sou[p
[08:01] <rednaxel> how could I monitor the data being sent/received thru /dev/ttyS0 ?
[08:01] <SAM_theman> brb
[08:06] <admrl> rednaxel cat..?
[08:06] <admrl> cat /dev/ttys0..?
[08:07] <Flixor-> what is the command for ftp to upload directory's
[08:07] <leafw> Flixor-: doesn't exist. Use "scp -r" instead
[08:08] <leafw> Or, you can try drang and drop of folders in konqueror.
[08:08] <leafw> s/drang/drag
[08:08] <Flixor-> i am on the comamndline rigth now
[08:08] <leafw> so then scp -r myfolder login@server:~/wheever/
[08:09] <Flixor-> but thanks leafw
[08:09] <Flixor-> its working put -R
[08:09] <leafw> Flixor-: well, that '-R' may be very dependent on the particular ftp client you have
[08:10] <Flixor-> well i first tried -r
[08:10] <Flixor-> and then -R and the latest worked
[08:14] <joshua> hello should i install Java runtime environment ?
[08:14] <joshua> i have been told its not safe
[08:15] <leafw> joshua: install it if you need it.
[08:17] <joshua> is it safe?
[08:17] <joshua> thats what i want to know
[08:17] <leafw> joshua
[08:18] <leafw> java is needed to run many programs
[08:18] <leafw> if you don't have any program that needs it, then don't install it. That's all.
[08:18] <joshua> heh
[08:18] <leafw> OTOH, the only unsafe java are applets over the internet, and these are very strictly regulated.
[08:18] <joshua> regulated?
[08:18] <joshua> in what sense do you mean
[08:19] <leafw> applets can't access your file system without your explicit permission and without a certificate.
[08:19] <joshua> ok
[08:19] <leafw> java is unsafe for careless users who always answer "yes" or "ok".
[08:19] <leafw> withour reading.
[08:22] <joshua> do you know the command to get java runtime environment ?
[08:22] <leafw> joshua
[08:22] <leafw> read the manual
[08:23] <rednaxel> leafw: most users (standard users, not power users) just click without actually reading
[08:23] <leafw> on apt-get, or on kynaptic (hoary), or adept (breezy)
[08:23] <leafw> joshua: just "give me the command" is what makes a computer (yours) unsafe.
[08:23] <joshua> thats true
[08:23] <leafw> joshua: I could give you anything.
[08:23] <leafw> rednaxel: indeed.
[08:24] <angasule> rednaxel: windows users (not their fault, really, but when you get asked the same question a million times...)
[08:24] <rednaxel> actually, the whole concept of Yes/No in a Dialog Box is flawed... the button label should have the verb, the action being done
[08:24] <angasule> rednaxel: agreed
[08:25] <angasule> rednaxel: not to mention the yes/no/cancel/stop/maybe/nottodayIhaveaheadache dialogs
[08:25] <rednaxel> instead of "Theres unsaved changes, save? (Yes/No/Cancel)" it should be "Theres unsaved changes. (Save/Discard/Do not exit)"
[08:26] <rednaxel> three buttons tops
[08:26] <csdcsdcsdc> one of my systems will not allow me to log in via ssh. It takes the password and after says "connection to X closed"
[08:26] <csdcsdcsdc> any idea?
[08:28] <leafw> xClayG: don't ssh -X, just 'ssh' then.
[08:28] <xClayG> I am
[08:28] <xClayG> it accepts ssh from remote connections, but will not locally it looks like
[08:30] <xClayG> werid it works in xwindows /gnometerminal but not in any of my virtual servers
[08:30] <xClayG> consoles i mean
[08:33] <leafw> you are ssh'ing to the same computer? What for? Is it actually possible?
[08:36] <SAM_theman> YES!!!
[08:36] <SAM_theman> it works
[08:36] <SAM_theman> i did a fresh install
[08:36] <SAM_theman> SOund works everything working
[08:38] <Azmodan> I'm looking for the file where I can change if my clock is based on GMT or not.  It is by default but Windows doesn't like it.
[08:40] <MrMazda> is there any short cut (easy way) to remove all the CJK font packages?
[08:42] <joakim> where can I read up on automount in kubuntu. Have problem with my USB-memory
[08:47] <joshua> how can i check what version of firefox im running ?
[08:48] <osh_> joshua: in the location bar type "about:"
[08:51] <joshua> ah thanks
[08:51] <joshua> i have 1.0.7 do you know if thats the latest version
[08:51] <apachelogger> joshua: 1.5
[08:51] <apachelogger> www.mozilla.com
[08:52] <osh_> joshua: it's the latest one in kubuntu. if you want a later one go to www.mozilla.com and then some kubuntu-wiki to get it to work.
[08:52] <joshua> ok
[08:52] <joshua> its ok to use 1.0.7 ?
[08:52] <joshua> or i should upgrade ?
[08:52] <osh_> joshua: I do it. 1.5 is better though.
[08:52] <joshua> because i dont mind to keep this one if i dont have to change it
[08:52] <joshua> ok
[08:53] <osh_> I'm too lazy to fix mozilla 1.5. I'll just wait for the upgrade to kubuntu.
[08:55] <osh_> I'm trying to get the "python profile " module and it shows when I do a aptitude-search but not in adept. And when I do an aptitude install it just won't get any package. It's a virtual package if I understand the letters correctly.
[08:55] <joshua> osh do you know a good virus scanner for kubuntu ?
[08:56] <osh_> sudo aptitude search python2.4-profiler
[08:56] <osh_> v   python2.4-profiler
[08:57] <osh_> It seems to be there. But if I just replace the "search" with "install" it won't get any package. What's up with thta.
[08:57] <apachelogger> joshua: virus scanner -> clamav
[08:57] <joshua> thanks
[08:57] <osh_> joshua: clamav
[08:58] <sampan> osh_  dunno what's up with that for you -- but sudo apt-get install python2.4-profiler worked for me
[08:58] <sampan> :/
[09:00] <joshua> whats the command to update clamav via the internet
[09:00] <joshua> i didnt really understand the instructions
[09:01] <apachelogger> joshua: update it's virus database?
[09:02] <osh_> hmm, atleast apt-get gives me an error to work with...
[09:03] <malkavian> boni
[09:03] <malkavian> ola retrasaos
[09:04] <joshua> i got an error on installation
[09:04] <joshua> its here
[09:04] <joshua> http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/jonnyubuntu/error.png
[09:05] <apachelogger> joshua: can't see the errors :P
[09:05] <apachelogger> some depend problems
[09:07] <apachelogger> joshua: what's the app right of klipper in systray?
[09:08] <sampan> !pastebin
[09:08] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:08] <sampan> joshua, when you get errors or need to paste some text for others to look at, you can use the "pastebin" (see ubotu's link)
[09:09] <sampan> works a little bit better than screenshots ;)
[09:10] <joshua> the app to the right of klipper is firestarter my firewall
[09:10] <apachelogger> ah :)
[09:11] <joshua> so i did /usr/bin/clamscam
[09:11] <apachelogger> <<Infected files: 0>>
[09:11] <apachelogger> doh :(
[09:12] <apachelogger> life can be so boring
[09:13] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6080
[09:13] <joshua> thats what i got with /usr/bin/clamscan
[09:13] <apachelogger> joshua: run freshclam
[09:14] <joshua> ERROR: Can't parse the config file /etc/clamav/clamd.conf
[09:14] <joshua> thats what it returns
[09:14] <apachelogger> :|
[09:14] <apachelogger> that's not good
[09:14] <apachelogger> joshua: do you have this config file at all?
[09:15] <joshua> how can i check
[09:15] <joshua> i got the package with adept
[09:15] <joshua> it installed a few things
[09:15] <joshua> but there was an error too
[09:15] <joshua> during the install
[09:15] <joshua> which i showed earlier
[09:15] <apachelogger> ls /etc/clamav/clamd.conf
[09:16] <apachelogger> some packages may be in conflict
[09:16] <apachelogger> which causes them to not being installed
[09:16] <joshua> ls: /etc/clamav/clamd.conf: No such file or directory
[09:16] <apachelogger> well
[09:16] <apachelogger> you're missing important packages :|
[09:16] <joshua> so its not installed
[09:16] <joshua> so should i remove
[09:16] <joshua> and try reinstall?
[09:17] <joshua> or maybe i can just get the pieces i need with adept
[09:18] <apachelogger> install everything named clamav* just not -data
[09:18] <apachelogger> that may work
[09:18] <joshua> ok
[09:18] <joshua> what do you mean 'just not data'
[09:18] <apachelogger> there is a package called "clamav-data"
[09:19] <apachelogger> don't install it
[09:19] <joshua> ah ok
[09:19] <mz111> I repeatedly change my dpi setting using gnome-control-center, but every time I log into kde, I end up with tiny fonts, what should I do?
[09:19] <joshua> you see what that package says tho?
[09:19] <joshua> its intereting
[09:19] <joshua> s*
[09:20] <apachelogger> mz111: you have to set it in kcontrol as well dude
[09:20] <apachelogger> joshua: what?
[09:20] <mz111> apachelogger: where can i change the dpi in kcontrol?
[09:21] <joshua> apache: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6081
[09:21] <apachelogger> mz111: fonts
[09:21] <apachelogger> mz111: appearance -> fonts
[09:21] <mz111> apachelogger: there is no dpi setting in my font menu
[09:22] <apachelogger> joshua: well, since you can get the up-to-date databse by running freshclam it isn't needed
[09:23] <joshua> but freshclam isnt working for me right
[09:23] <apachelogger> well, clamscan neither or :P
[09:23] <apachelogger> you're just missing packages
[09:24] <joshua> should i dl the daemon too ?
[09:24] <apachelogger> joshua: ?
[09:25] <jjesse> minimum partition for an install of breezy?
[09:25] <joshua> clamav-daemon
[09:25] <joshua> is in the list
[09:25] <jjesse> can i do it on a 2g partition?
[09:25] <apachelogger> joshua: I think you have a repo mix
[09:26] <apachelogger> there is no clamav-daemon in offical afaik
[09:26] <apachelogger> ah there, well
[09:27] <apachelogger> joshua: I'll tell you the needed ones ;-)
[09:27] <joshua> ok :)
[09:27] <joshua> how do i tell if mine is official
[09:27] <apachelogger> joshua: clamav | clamav-freshclam | clamav-testfiles | libclamav1
[09:28] <joshua> command not found
[09:28] <joshua> 4 times
[09:28] <apachelogger> joshua: that are the packages ;-)
[09:28] <mz111> apachelogger: i don't suppose you've taken a loot a the font menu
[09:28] <joshua> oh
[09:28] <joshua> LOL
[09:28] <joshua> sorry
[09:29] <apachelogger> mz111: hm, no, never .... or maybe I got you wrong
[09:30] <jjesse> !partition
[09:30] <ubotu> Not a clue, jjesse
[09:30] <jjesse> !size
[09:30] <ubotu> jjesse: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:31] <jjesse> !specs
[09:31] <ubotu> Not a clue, jjesse
[09:31] <jjesse> !installation specs
[09:31] <ubotu> jjesse: Are you smoking crack?
[09:31] <jjesse> !installation
[09:31] <ubotu> jjesse: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:31] <joshua> !hmmmm
[09:31] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, joshua
[09:32] <apachelogger> jjesse: what's the point?
[09:32] <jjesse> trying to figure out min. parition size for a breezy install
[09:33] <apachelogger> jjesse: as much as you need :P
[09:33] <apachelogger> ~2gigs
[09:33] <linlin> i used my regular ubuntu 5.10 install cd to install ubuntu as a "server" install.. how do i turn it into kubuntu when its bare like this
[09:33] <linlin> just cause i dont want to have to downlaod and burn the kubuntu iso
[09:33] <jjesse> apachelogger: i have a 2gig virtual partition and it crapped at 48%
[09:33] <apachelogger> linlin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <jjesse> linlin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <linlin> ok and that will generate the same effect as if i loaded from a cd?
[09:34] <jjesse> that was in the configuration stage
[09:34] <jjesse> "configuring openofficeorg-kubuntu
[09:34] <apachelogger> linlin: think so
[09:46] <joshua> hi
[09:46] <joshua> if i do   wget -c http://ubuntuguide.org/ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[09:46] <joshua> and then   tar zxvf ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[09:46] <joshua> heh
[09:46] <joshua> how do i get the document now
[09:49] <sampan> joshua  iirc the ubuntuguide was html, so you probably can just click it in konq to open it
[09:49] <joshua> k
[09:49] <sampan> are you using breezy?
[09:50] <sampan> if so, be careful with ubuntuguide -- it's for hoary and some of the instructions in there (a) may not work or (b) may break stuff on your breezy install
[09:53] <jjesse> joshua: try the faqguide on help.ubuntu.com it's fro breezy and should be able to answer most of your questions
[09:57] <joshua> ok thanks alot
[09:59] <exium> Does anyone have problems with having to restart the xserver constantly because the screen becomes what looks like static on a tv?
[09:59] <sophie_> exium: no prob here
[10:00] <exium> Hm. I am not entirely sure where to start. Everything seems to be working fine, and then all of the sudden, it seems like I am back in Windows where if a window freezes, and you drag it, all the graphics it touches become just like it.
[10:02] <nadya> Hi. How do I update kde?!
[10:02] <nadya> I followed the instructions, but which command do I have to execute to accomplish this?
[10:03] <bobbyd> hi
[10:03] <nadya> Hi
[10:04] <bobbyd> extracting audio with kaudiocreator is really slow when it's taking the audio from the disc, it seems to be about 1x speed
[10:04] <bobbyd> any ideas for speeding it up?
[10:04] <bobbyd> dma is on on the drive
[10:07] <nadya> Hi boobyd. Do you know how to update kde?
[10:07] <bhna> bobbyd: no idea. have the same problem
[10:13] <chx> in kpdf how could i switch off the Contents and Thumbnails ?
[10:13] <chx> found it thanks
[10:40] <Knowerrors> Afternoon all, how do I get  a midi to play in Kubuntu?  Im trying to use KMid, and I get no sound
[10:42] <Hobbsee> !midi
[10:43] <ubotu> well, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:44] <Knowerrors> thx ubotu
[10:46] <Knowerrors> That is alot of work just for midi... that seems crazy, midi should be standard
[10:48] <sproingie> how do i turn off the autocomplete in the google bar in konqueror?
[10:49] <_jonas> how do I get sounds on firefox1.5?
[10:54] <Hattori> hello
[10:54] <Hattori> what's the best mp3 player to install on kubuntu?
[10:54] <raphink> amarok
[10:54] <Hobbsee> um, amarok?
[10:55] <raphink> w/ xine imo
[10:55] <Hattori> isn't it already there?
[10:55] <raphink> I think so
[10:55] <raphink> if you want something lighter, you can try juk too
[10:57] <_jonas> sudo apt-get install amarok ;)
[10:58] <_jonas> amarok is pretty like iTunes, xmms is pretty like winamp
[10:58] <treakath> hey all
[10:59] <_jonas> hello
[10:59] <treakath> hey
[11:00] <_jonas> whats up?
[11:00] <treakath> nuthing and you
[11:00] <_jonas> nothing special, listening to music
[11:00] <_jonas> trying to get used to ubuntu
[11:01] <treakath> oh okay im useing kubuntu
[11:01] <treakath> 5.4
[11:01] <_jonas> i have kubuntu installed too, but I like ubunut better
[11:02] <treakath> what viresion have you got
[11:02] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: do midis work for you with default kubuntu setup?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: i dont have any midi files to test with, sorry
[11:03] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/nes/tmnt-und.mid
[11:03] <Knowerrors> please ;)
[11:04] <_jonas> treakath: what is viresion?
[11:04] <treakath> i mean version
[11:05] <treakath> ops my baqn
[11:05] <treakath> bad
[11:05] <_jonas> breezy badger 5.10
[11:09] <treakath> how much its it
[11:09] <treakath> is it
[11:09] <treakath> hi
[11:14] <_mombasa_> ummm..... I'm new to kubuntu linux. I need help with installing software, and what would be good p2p soft.
[11:45] <peixoto> Hi all. Anyone had luck using klik ?
[11:47] <peixoto> I am new to klik, and I am trying to run amarok, but it is giving an error, without even trying to download....
[11:47] <peixoto> "Error while trrying to run amarok" .... no download, no details, nothing...
[11:47] <peixoto> Anyone knows how to download the .cmg file, so that I can trry do debug it ?
[11:47] <peixoto>  I am using breezy, and already installed rpm, which amarok .cmg requires ...
[11:48] <Hobbsee> peixoto: why are you trying to get amarok by using klik?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:52] <peixoto> Because I am getting an annoying error when I use the Ubuntu's amarok ...
[11:52] <Hobbsee> which error?
[11:52] <peixoto> And I thought that maybe the klik's amarok had it already fixed..
[11:53] <Hobbsee> and did you try the amarok 1.3.7?
[11:53] <Hobbsee> peixoto: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[11:53] <peixoto> When I open the ubuntu amarok it gives an erroor "can open file." , or something like that
[11:54] <peixoto> Had already tried to uninstall and reinstall, remove the config dir, etc...
[11:54] <Hobbsee> do you have the codecs?
[11:54] <Hobbsee> !codecs
[11:54] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:54] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[11:54] <ubotu> [multimedia]  for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[11:54] <Hobbsee> check that you've got all the stuff from the first link
[11:55] <peixoto> yes, I used that script easyubuntu.. Everything in amarok is working fine, excecpt this error in the opening ...
[11:56] <peixoto> I was trying amarok 1.3.1, that is available in my synaptic, but I'll try 1.3.7
[11:56] <Hobbsee> probably a good idea
[11:56] <peixoto> maybe it will work
[11:56] <peixoto> Thanks for the tip
[11:57] <Hobbsee> apparently there's heaps of bug fixes since 1.3.1
[11:57] <Hobbsee> but i've never tried klik
[11:57] <kverde> hi all. new to desktop linux and ubuntu.  Very, very impressed.
[11:57] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:58] <dclindsay> !easysource
[11:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic