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| klepas | moin | 12:58 |
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| artnay | g morning | 06:14 |
| klepas | moin | 06:23 |
| artnay | http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php | 06:52 |
| klepas | nice :) | 07:10 |
| artnay | canonical should include those with the CDs they send | 07:11 |
| artnay | anyways, I'm ordering :) | 07:12 |
| klepas | yep | 07:18 |
| artnay | so how was your presentation? | 07:18 |
| klepas | i picked up a box of 250 CDs yesterday at our lug christmas partu | 07:18 |
| artnay | haha | 07:18 |
| klepas | s/partu/party | 07:18 |
| klepas | very cool | 07:18 |
| klepas | :) | 07:18 |
| artnay | umh, everything is working now | 07:19 |
| artnay | I had some problems when updating to dapper, but I managed to solve them | 07:19 |
| artnay | now I'm ready to do some work ;)' | 07:20 |
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| klepas | :( | 08:03 |
| klepas | it is just me or why did my mail to the art ML not get through/show up in my inbox/ubuntu-art folder... | 08:04 |
| klepas | about the meeting | 08:04 |
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| artnay | klepas: no, it's not just you | 10:19 |
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| Badm4n | hello | 12:28 |
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| artnay | hey Badm4nz | 12:35 |
| Badm4nz | hello | 12:36 |
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| artnay | Badm4nz: what's on your mind? | 12:37 |
| Badm4n | i only have idea with the ubutntu desktop | 12:37 |
| Badm4n | :) | 12:37 |
| Badm4n | how if when the system loading | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | that state blablabalbala....ok | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | blablablala....failed | 12:38 |
| artnay | with graphics? | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | we can put our own image/logo | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | yes | 12:38 |
| artnay | what do you mean by "system"? | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | like : | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | Bringing Network Interface up ........................ ok | 12:38 |
| Badm4n | syncronizint time zone ................... failed | 12:39 |
| artnay | oh, you meant Usplash | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | U Splash ? after login screen ? | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | i mean b4 the login screen | 12:39 |
| artnay | yeah, that's Usplash for now | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | oh i c | 12:39 |
| artnay | it might change in future versions | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | can we change it ? | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | i c | 12:39 |
| Badm4n | july 2006 rite ? | 12:40 |
| artnay | well, there has been discussion of replacing text with icons | 12:40 |
| artnay | july? | 12:40 |
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| Badm4n | yes the next update ? | 12:40 |
| Badm4n | every 6 month rite ? | 12:40 |
| artnay | dapper will be out in April, hence the name 6.04 (year and month) | 12:41 |
| Badm4n | i c | 12:41 |
| Badm4n | so the next time of breezy = dapper | 12:41 |
| artnay | well I'm running dapper at the moment :) | 12:41 |
| Badm4n | so for rite now we cant put our own logo/image ? | 12:41 |
| Badm4n | on "uslash" ? | 12:41 |
| artnay | well the "Ubuntu" text on it can be replaced | 12:42 |
| Badm4n | <artnay> well I'm running dapper at the moment :) <---- may i have one ? :( | 12:42 |
| Badm4n | :p | 12:42 |
| artnay | but all the text that outputs what's happening inside the kernel, it's not possible to change it to icons (yet) | 12:42 |
| artnay | dapper is still in development (sid), unstable version | 12:43 |
| Badm4n | the text of ubuntu can be changed ? can you teach me ? if yes .. i'll reboot my computer and using ubuntu :D | 12:43 |
| artnay | just sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list | 12:43 |
| artnay | then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | wait a moment | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | rebooting :D | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | wait... | 12:44 |
| artnay | but that's unstable, it might brake your system | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | hold up | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | would ou :D | 12:44 |
| Badm4n | brb | 12:44 |
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| artnay | don't update to dapper (yet) unless you're willing to fix your system every once in a while | 12:47 |
| artnay | oh, he left already :o that's what happens if you don't pay enough attention :) | 12:48 |
| artnay | hey lukacu | 12:48 |
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| artnay | don't update to dapper (yet) unless you're willing to fix your system every once in a while | 12:48 |
| Badm4n | back | 12:48 |
| Badm4n | :D | 12:48 |
| lukacu | artnay: hello | 12:48 |
| Badm4n | :D | 12:48 |
| Badm4n | i c | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | hmm | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | how about the usplash ? | 12:49 |
| artnay | no replies regarding the meeting :( | 12:49 |
| artnay | Badm4n: there's a wiki page for it | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | icant find it at wiki | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | the only that i can find is a how to change login img and preloading image | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | using artmagaer | 12:49 |
| Badm4n | lolz | 12:49 |
| artnay | Badm4n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto | 12:50 |
| artnay | maybe there should be a GUI to do all that | 12:50 |
| artnay | lukacu: would 29th be ok? | 12:51 |
| Badm4n | gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.o -o yourimage-splash.so <---- .so ? how i can create it ? | 12:52 |
| lukacu | artnay: yes ... fine with me | 12:52 |
| artnay | Badm4n: create what? | 12:52 |
| artnay | The PNG must be: 640x480 16 colours. | 12:52 |
| artnay | shouldn't that be 640x400? | 12:52 |
| lukacu | artnay: i am just woried about the hour :) | 12:53 |
| artnay | lukacu: me too | 12:53 |
| artnay | well, actually I don't care about it. maybe there should be a voting for that | 12:54 |
| artnay | at least we could ask what people think of different times | 12:54 |
| Badm4n | yourimage.so ? | 12:55 |
| lukacu | yes. make five options and then let them vote | 12:55 |
| artnay | lukacu: you have the necessary tools for that? I'm doing LAMP, Wordpress and punBB | 12:56 |
| artnay | Badm4n: you need to have the preferred image first | 12:56 |
| artnay | then just follow the instructions | 12:56 |
| lukacu | artnay: for voting? | 12:56 |
| artnay | lukacu: yeah | 12:57 |
| artnay | let's say it's on the 29th of Dec | 12:57 |
| Badm4n | to create myownomage.so ? | 12:57 |
| artnay | ok. now create a link for voting, post it to list and people will have a possibility express themselves | 12:57 |
| Badm4n | i have already my own png with specific requirment | 12:57 |
| artnay | Badm4n: ok, did you install libbogl-dev? | 12:58 |
| artnay | then just cd directorywhereyourimage is | 12:58 |
| Badm4n | on the way :D | 12:58 |
| === Badm4n folow the instruction | ||
| artnay | and follow the wiki instructions | 12:59 |
| lukacu | artnay: how about a simple wiki page? too much freedom? | 12:59 |
| Badm4n | Setting up libbogl-dev (0.1.18-1.1ubuntu3) ... | 12:59 |
| Badm4n | root@tequila:/home/mirza# | 12:59 |
| Badm4n | done | 12:59 |
| artnay | lukacu: I was just going to suggest that :) | 12:59 |
| lukacu | lol ... wiki is good for everything | 01:00 |
| Badm4n | lol | 01:00 |
| artnay | maybe the clock should be divided into eight sections | 01:00 |
| artnay | what do you think? | 01:00 |
| lukacu | and we can build our agenda there also | 01:01 |
| artnay | or what do you mean by 5 different sections? how are you going to do that? | 01:01 |
| Badm4n | like a time scedule / reminder ? | 01:01 |
| artnay | lukacu: let's build it beforehand. then just show it to the people and ask for improvements, suggestions etc. | 01:01 |
| artnay | let's make a wiki page of that | 01:02 |
| lukacu | ok | 01:02 |
| lukacu | :) | 01:02 |
| artnay | my todo list is somewhere in /dev/null | 01:02 |
| artnay | but klepas has a backu | 01:02 |
| artnay | a wiki page of that would be great | 01:03 |
| lukacu | indeed | 01:03 |
| artnay | it would be even better if we could separate the topics mentioned on the list into different wiki pages | 01:03 |
| lukacu | mentioned by who? ... klepas? | 01:04 |
| Badm4n | hmmm | 01:04 |
| Badm4n | ubuntu 5.10 have png editor ? | 01:04 |
| artnay | Badm4n: the gimp | 01:04 |
| artnay | lukacu: I did the list (artwork-todo), but my account was deleted :> | 01:04 |
| artnay | and I haven't had time to seek for bu on my BSD serv | 01:05 |
| artnay | klepas had it on cache so he made it public | 01:05 |
| lukacu | i see :) | 01:05 |
| artnay | it's a bit outdated but I most probably am able to recall what was changed in the most recent version | 01:06 |
| artnay | Badm4n: just alt+f2 -> gimp -> enter | 01:06 |
| Badm4n | yes | 01:07 |
| lukacu | artnay: will you start the agenda page? ... i have some stuff to add but not enough to start with | 01:07 |
| Badm4n | i'm looking for the canvas size lolz... never use gimp :( | 01:07 |
| artnay | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal | 01:07 |
| artnay | http://wombat.nuxified.com/artwork-todo | 01:07 |
| artnay | that's a start | 01:07 |
| Badm4n | is that must be : e PNG must be: 640x480 16 colour | 01:07 |
| artnay | Badm4n: yes, otherwise it won't work | 01:07 |
| Badm4n | and doesnt make my system crash ? rite | 01:08 |
| artnay | although I think it should be 640x400 | 01:08 |
| artnay | as I spoke with mjg59 and he stated that | 01:08 |
| artnay | Badm4n: if it doesn't work, your system should boot without Usplash | 01:08 |
| Badm4n | http://wombat.nuxified.com/artwork-todo <-- agree is the colour using 256 :D | 01:08 |
| lukacu | artnay: yeah... but somebody must create a page ... that is create a suitable name for it :) | 01:09 |
| artnay | Badm4n: it might be one of the improvements | 01:09 |
| artnay | it requires changes to how Usplash operates with fb | 01:09 |
| artnay | and it's not in dapper yet | 01:10 |
| Badm4n | i'm sorry but i cant find to change my png to 16 colours. | 01:13 |
| Badm4n | how that is posible ? | 01:13 |
| artnay | are you creating an image? | 01:13 |
| Badm4n | nope | 01:13 |
| Badm4n | i open my old png | 01:13 |
| artnay | maybe it has more colours than just 16 | 01:13 |
| Badm4n | yes | 01:14 |
| Badm4n | how to change it to 16 | 01:14 |
| Badm4n | or i must create a new one ? | 01:14 |
| artnay | no | 01:15 |
| artnay | $EDITOR 16colours | 01:16 |
| artnay | #!/bin/sh | 01:16 |
| artnay | convert -depth 24 $1 $1 | 01:16 |
| artnay | convert -depth 16 $1 $1 | 01:16 |
| artnay | convert -depth 8 $1 $1 | 01:16 |
| artnay | convert -colors 16 $1 $1 | 01:16 |
| artnay | paste those lines there | 01:16 |
| artnay | then sh 16colours currentimage.png new16colourimage.png | 01:16 |
| artnay | I guess that's one way to do it. I'm on XP machine at the moment and I don't have da GIMP here :( | 01:17 |
| Badm4n | lol | 01:18 |
| Badm4n | ok ok | 01:18 |
| Badm4n | root@tequila:/home/mirza# sh 16kolor.sh look1a.png uslash.png | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | 16kolor.sh: line 2: convert: command not found | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | 16kolor.sh: line 3: convert: command not found | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | 16kolor.sh: line 4: convert: command not found | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | 16kolor.sh: line 5: convert: command not found | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | lolz | 01:20 |
| Badm4n | nevermind | 01:21 |
| Badm4n | maybe nextime | 01:21 |
| Badm4n | i'll get my xp on now :D:)) | 01:22 |
| Badm4n | brb | 01:22 |
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| artnay | that requires imagemagick I guess | 01:27 |
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| Badm4n | lol | 01:27 |
| artnay | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install imagemagick | 01:27 |
| artnay | lukacu: I try to move that stuff out of text page into a wiki page | 01:30 |
| artnay | today if I just find time for that, any help will be much appreciated | 01:30 |
| klepas | hey guys | 01:31 |
| klepas | sorry i wasn't around earlier | 01:31 |
| klepas | festivities and whatnot :) | 01:31 |
| lukacu | artnay: i will help | 01:32 |
| lukacu | hello klepas | 01:32 |
| artnay | no prob, take a look what lukacu and I were discussing | 01:32 |
| artnay | andyfitz left from here and bvc doesn't hang on IRC :( | 01:33 |
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| klepas | should i tell him to come in? | 01:35 |
| artnay | no, don't force him :D | 01:35 |
| artnay | it would be nice to have +20 people on the channel | 01:35 |
| lukacu | well ... thats a bit too much to expect i guess :) | 01:36 |
| artnay | anyways, it's the 23rd of Dec here in Finland. I've nearly finished my work and therefore leaving soon | 01:37 |
| artnay | lukacu: it shouldn't be | 01:37 |
| artnay | I see lots of interest in graphics at ubuntuforums | 01:38 |
| artnay | if only we could get some of those guys to join this channel | 01:38 |
| artnay | not much talk in here :( | 01:38 |
| lukacu | ok ... perhaps i dont see the whole picture here | 01:38 |
| artnay | well I think there should be artwork team at ubuntuforums | 01:39 |
| artnay | have links in signatures | 01:39 |
| artnay | that way people would be aware what's happening, that there's a team that is supposed to do some artwork | 01:39 |
| artnay | maybe I'll post a suggestion to admins of ubuntuforums | 01:40 |
| lukacu | :) | 01:40 |
| artnay | I mean, there's tweaker team, documentation team, kubuntu team, god knows what | 01:40 |
| artnay | we don't even have a proper wiki page, how should people know about all of this? | 01:41 |
| lukacu | i agree :) | 01:41 |
| klepas | yea | 01:42 |
| klepas | i think the best way to tackle this is discuss if over that general meeting I proposed | 01:42 |
| klepas | has anyone actually gotten it? | 01:42 |
| klepas | I didn't get a copy... | 01:42 |
| lukacu | i just think that we should not expect too much ... but it will be a start | 01:43 |
| artnay | copy of what? I haven't even subscribed, I always use fx to read the list :9 | 01:43 |
| artnay | klepas: hey, read the wiki page proposition | 01:43 |
| lukacu | ive received a meeting proposal on the ml | 01:43 |
| artnay | to have a voting of the meeting time | 01:44 |
| artnay | as a wiki page | 01:44 |
| artnay | and add option "I don't care, I'll participate anyway" | 01:44 |
| artnay | :) | 01:44 |
| artnay | "I don't care, I'm not coming" :o | 01:44 |
| lukacu | klepas: 21.12. [ubuntu-art] General Ubuntu Art meeting for December ? is that correct email? | 01:45 |
| artnay | anyways, I'm leaving now. in case we don't have a discussion here later today, happy holidays (or may I say "Merry Christmas!") to all of you | 01:45 |
| artnay | lukacu: that is | 01:45 |
| artnay | no replies :( | 01:45 |
| artnay | ok, take care | 01:46 |
| lukacu | bye | 01:46 |
| klepas | yes lukacu | 01:47 |
| klepas | that is the right email | 01:47 |
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| lukacu | :) | 01:48 |
| === klepas is upset | ||
| klepas | Oh, have i mentioned | 01:48 |
| klepas | i'm meeting Andy and Mark Shuttleworth | 01:48 |
| klepas | in 31 days! | 01:48 |
| klepas | :) | 01:48 |
| lukacu | :D | 01:48 |
| klepas | actually i'll be sitting in on Andy's presentation | 01:49 |
| klepas | and listening to Mark's one as well | 01:49 |
| klepas | ought to be awesome | 01:49 |
| lukacu | well.. it is always good to know people at high places :) | 01:51 |
| lukacu | where are you meeting them? | 01:52 |
| klepas | LCA2006 | 01:54 |
| klepas | http://lca2006.linux.org.au/ | 01:54 |
| lukacu | thats a huge event :) | 01:56 |
| klepas | sure is | 01:56 |
| Badm4n | is shipit.com absolutely freee ? cause i request one :F | 01:57 |
| Badm4n | :D | 01:58 |
| Badm4n | using usps ? | 02:02 |
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| artnay | Badm4n: it is | 02:50 |
| artnay | hi mhz | 02:50 |
| Badm4n | i c | 02:50 |
| Badm4n | so it will take about 7 days ? | 02:50 |
| Badm4n | if em not wrong | 02:50 |
| mhz | hi artnay, how's it going? | 02:50 |
| artnay | Badm4n: it is completely free although you won't receive the CD on your door :) | 02:50 |
| artnay | Badm4n: seven days? I don't know, there might still be queue left (all the time, baby) | 02:51 |
| artnay | maybe a month or so | 02:51 |
| Badm4n | i c :p | 02:51 |
| artnay | mhz: I'm fine, not at job anymore ;). you? | 02:51 |
| mhz | artnay: me looking for a job (it's been 2 1/5 months with no 'getting money', just working as volunteer) | 02:53 |
| artnay | Badm4n: CDs I meant... and they aren't "free", canonical is paying. so order a bunch of CDs and spread 'em in your neighbourhood | 02:57 |
| artnay | now that's marketing ;D | 02:57 |
| Badm4n | hmmmm | 02:57 |
| artnay | mhz: volunteering? which projects? | 02:57 |
| mhz | edubuntu and tecnocimiento | 02:57 |
| artnay | sounds reasonable | 02:58 |
| mhz | artnay: tecnocimiento is my project but 'the getting ready to get funds part' took us almost 4 months and now it is a terrible season to start carrying out the plan | 02:58 |
| klepas | sorry i haven't been paying attention guys | 02:59 |
| mhz | so i'll have to wait until march-april | 02:59 |
| mhz | artnay: however, i am not complaining, please dont feel like that. I was just telling you. | 03:00 |
| mhz | :) | 03:00 |
| klepas | hey | 03:00 |
| klepas | how many of you lot have read that general meeting mail? | 03:00 |
| artnay | klepas: you would get replies if you had GMT time on it :) | 03:02 |
| artnay | so, voting? | 03:02 |
| klepas | voting on it? | 03:03 |
| klepas | would be cool | 03:03 |
| artnay | yeah, for time | 03:03 |
| klepas | might set up a poll on my site | 03:03 |
| artnay | let's use wiki so everyone can edit it, add their comments | 03:04 |
| mhz | yeah, wiki rocks! | 03:05 |
| mhz | klepas: i have not read it. when did you sen it? | 03:05 |
| klepas | better idea | 03:05 |
| klepas | 4-5 days ago | 03:06 |
| artnay | a poll and comments? would be easier | 03:06 |
| === mhz reading logs.. | ||
| artnay | klepas: then, fridge? | 03:07 |
| mhz | and a .ics file for meetings | 03:07 |
| klepas | yep | 03:08 |
| klepas | jdub | 03:08 |
| klepas | Jeff Waugh (btw, who i am also meeting) has already agreed | 03:08 |
| klepas | to put the event info on the fridge | 03:08 |
| klepas | only condition | 03:08 |
| klepas | we need to work out a time first =\ | 03:08 |
| mhz | klepas: hmm, i see no 'meeting' match in subjects regarding [-art] | 03:10 |
| mhz | (not in my inbox) | 03:11 |
| klepas | mhz_BBS: neither in mine | 03:13 |
| klepas | and i sent it | 03:13 |
| klepas | so i am going to sent it again | 03:13 |
| mhz_BBS | thx and sorry | 03:13 |
| klepas | no worries | 03:14 |
| klepas | i'm having the same problem | 03:14 |
| artnay | http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php - this sticker thingie reminds me of something. back when AMD didn't have those with CPUs, people were able to order via web | 03:17 |
| artnay | they sent all kind of stuff actually | 03:17 |
| klepas | artnay: i'm going to beg Mark for some goodies | 03:18 |
| klepas | so i'll bring that back with me | 03:18 |
| klepas | and take some photos for you lot :D | 03:18 |
| klepas | breezy posters... | 03:18 |
| klepas | autographed Ubuntu CDs... | 03:18 |
| klepas | :) | 03:18 |
| artnay | klepas: take some Dappers, too | 03:21 |
| klepas | ah, good idea | 03:22 |
| klepas | :) | 03:22 |
| klepas | mmhh | 03:25 |
| klepas | i'd be happy to post some | 03:25 |
| klepas | signed discs | 03:25 |
| klepas | so if any of you lot want any | 03:25 |
| klepas | i'd be happy to organise some | 03:25 |
| klepas | and then talk with you individually later for sending them your way | 03:25 |
| klepas | artnay: ? :) | 03:26 |
| lukacu | klepas: one for me please :) | 03:27 |
| klepas | rightio | 03:29 |
| artnay | klepas: sure. | 03:29 |
| klepas | Ubuntu or Kubuntu? | 03:29 |
| klepas | and which architecture? | 03:29 |
| artnay | Umh, I prefer KDE but Ubuntu as a name ;D | 03:29 |
| lukacu | ubuntu / x86 | 03:31 |
| artnay | oh I wish Ubuntu Express would be stable when Dappers go wild | 03:32 |
| klepas | alrighty | 03:34 |
| klepas | artnay: so Kubuntu for you? | 03:34 |
| klepas | i know Mark carries special copies around with him... | 03:34 |
| artnay | one for me, please. ;D | 03:34 |
| klepas | x86 | 03:35 |
| artnay | that's it | 03:35 |
| artnay | live, that would be cool. | 03:36 |
| klepas | :) | 03:38 |
| klepas | no promises though guys | 03:38 |
| klepas | i'll try my best, while not angering the MOTU! | 03:38 |
| klepas | :P | 03:38 |
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| mhz | klepas: sorry.. i emptied the battery :) | 03:44 |
| klepas | no worries | 03:46 |
| klepas | mhz: i'll grab any necessary details off you all later | 03:46 |
| mhz | klepas: you are sending it to the ML? | 03:46 |
| klepas | once i come back and actually have the discs | 03:46 |
| klepas | sending what to the ML? the General meeting info? | 03:47 |
| mhz | yup | 03:47 |
| klepas | will do later | 03:49 |
| klepas | first i need some sleep | 03:49 |
| klepas | good night folks | 04:11 |
| klepas | Merry Christmas! | 04:11 |
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| artnay | mhz_bbl: | 09:45 |
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| artnay | hey lukacu | 11:54 |
| lukacu | hey artnay | 12:00 |
| lukacu | any progress on agenda wiki page? | 12:01 |
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