=== megabyte405_ [n=megabyte@user-0cdvltn.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === miketech [n=miketech@p54B25A9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === miketech [n=miketech@p54B25A9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:58] moin === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:14] g morning [06:23] moin [06:52] http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php [07:10] nice :) [07:11] canonical should include those with the CDs they send [07:12] anyways, I'm ordering :) [07:18] yep [07:18] so how was your presentation? [07:18] i picked up a box of 250 CDs yesterday at our lug christmas partu [07:18] haha [07:18] s/partu/party [07:18] very cool [07:18] :) [07:19] umh, everything is working now [07:19] I had some problems when updating to dapper, but I managed to solve them [07:20] now I'm ready to do some work ;)' === omeg [n=omega@h8441190238.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:03] :( [08:04] it is just me or why did my mail to the art ML not get through/show up in my inbox/ubuntu-art folder... [08:04] about the meeting === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:19] klepas: no, it's not just you === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Badm4n [n=MnY@202.153.251.109] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:28] hello === Badm4nz [n=MnY@202.153.251.109] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:35] hey Badm4nz [12:36] hello === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:37] Badm4nz: what's on your mind? [12:37] i only have idea with the ubutntu desktop [12:37] :) [12:38] how if when the system loading [12:38] that state blablabalbala....ok [12:38] blablablala....failed [12:38] with graphics? [12:38] we can put our own image/logo [12:38] yes [12:38] what do you mean by "system"? [12:38] like : [12:38] Bringing Network Interface up ........................ ok [12:39] syncronizint time zone ................... failed [12:39] oh, you meant Usplash [12:39] U Splash ? after login screen ? [12:39] i mean b4 the login screen [12:39] yeah, that's Usplash for now [12:39] oh i c [12:39] it might change in future versions [12:39] can we change it ? [12:39] i c [12:40] july 2006 rite ? [12:40] well, there has been discussion of replacing text with icons [12:40] july? === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [12:40] yes the next update ? [12:40] every 6 month rite ? [12:41] dapper will be out in April, hence the name 6.04 (year and month) [12:41] i c [12:41] so the next time of breezy = dapper [12:41] well I'm running dapper at the moment :) [12:41] so for rite now we cant put our own logo/image ? [12:41] on "uslash" ? [12:42] well the "Ubuntu" text on it can be replaced [12:42] well I'm running dapper at the moment :) <---- may i have one ? :( [12:42] :p [12:42] but all the text that outputs what's happening inside the kernel, it's not possible to change it to icons (yet) [12:43] dapper is still in development (sid), unstable version [12:43] the text of ubuntu can be changed ? can you teach me ? if yes .. i'll reboot my computer and using ubuntu :D [12:43] just sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list [12:44] then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [12:44] wait a moment [12:44] rebooting :D [12:44] wait... [12:44] but that's unstable, it might brake your system [12:44] hold up [12:44] would ou :D [12:44] brb === lukacu [n=lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.dynamic.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:47] don't update to dapper (yet) unless you're willing to fix your system every once in a while [12:48] oh, he left already :o that's what happens if you don't pay enough attention :) [12:48] hey lukacu === Badm4n [n=MnY@202.153.251.109] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:48] don't update to dapper (yet) unless you're willing to fix your system every once in a while [12:48] back [12:48] :D [12:48] artnay: hello [12:48] :D [12:49] i c [12:49] hmm [12:49] how about the usplash ? [12:49] no replies regarding the meeting :( [12:49] Badm4n: there's a wiki page for it [12:49] icant find it at wiki [12:49] the only that i can find is a how to change login img and preloading image [12:49] using artmagaer [12:49] lolz [12:50] Badm4n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto [12:50] maybe there should be a GUI to do all that [12:51] lukacu: would 29th be ok? [12:52] gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.o -o yourimage-splash.so <---- .so ? how i can create it ? [12:52] artnay: yes ... fine with me [12:52] Badm4n: create what? [12:52] The PNG must be: 640x480 16 colours. [12:52] shouldn't that be 640x400? [12:53] artnay: i am just woried about the hour :) [12:53] lukacu: me too [12:54] well, actually I don't care about it. maybe there should be a voting for that [12:54] at least we could ask what people think of different times [12:55] yourimage.so ? [12:55] yes. make five options and then let them vote [12:56] lukacu: you have the necessary tools for that? I'm doing LAMP, Wordpress and punBB [12:56] Badm4n: you need to have the preferred image first [12:56] then just follow the instructions [12:56] artnay: for voting? [12:57] lukacu: yeah [12:57] let's say it's on the 29th of Dec [12:57] to create myownomage.so ? [12:57] ok. now create a link for voting, post it to list and people will have a possibility express themselves [12:57] i have already my own png with specific requirment [12:58] Badm4n: ok, did you install libbogl-dev? [12:58] then just cd directorywhereyourimage is [12:58] on the way :D === Badm4n folow the instruction [12:59] and follow the wiki instructions [12:59] artnay: how about a simple wiki page? too much freedom? [12:59] Setting up libbogl-dev (0.1.18-1.1ubuntu3) ... [12:59] root@tequila:/home/mirza# [12:59] done [12:59] lukacu: I was just going to suggest that :) [01:00] lol ... wiki is good for everything [01:00] lol [01:00] maybe the clock should be divided into eight sections [01:00] what do you think? [01:01] and we can build our agenda there also [01:01] or what do you mean by 5 different sections? how are you going to do that? [01:01] like a time scedule / reminder ? [01:01] lukacu: let's build it beforehand. then just show it to the people and ask for improvements, suggestions etc. [01:02] let's make a wiki page of that [01:02] ok [01:02] :) [01:02] my todo list is somewhere in /dev/null [01:02] but klepas has a backu [01:03] a wiki page of that would be great [01:03] indeed [01:03] it would be even better if we could separate the topics mentioned on the list into different wiki pages [01:04] mentioned by who? ... klepas? [01:04] hmmm [01:04] ubuntu 5.10 have png editor ? [01:04] Badm4n: the gimp [01:04] lukacu: I did the list (artwork-todo), but my account was deleted :> [01:05] and I haven't had time to seek for bu on my BSD serv [01:05] klepas had it on cache so he made it public [01:05] i see :) [01:06] it's a bit outdated but I most probably am able to recall what was changed in the most recent version [01:06] Badm4n: just alt+f2 -> gimp -> enter [01:07] yes [01:07] artnay: will you start the agenda page? ... i have some stuff to add but not enough to start with [01:07] i'm looking for the canvas size lolz... never use gimp :( [01:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal [01:07] http://wombat.nuxified.com/artwork-todo [01:07] that's a start [01:07] is that must be : e PNG must be: 640x480 16 colour [01:07] Badm4n: yes, otherwise it won't work [01:08] and doesnt make my system crash ? rite [01:08] although I think it should be 640x400 [01:08] as I spoke with mjg59 and he stated that [01:08] Badm4n: if it doesn't work, your system should boot without Usplash [01:08] http://wombat.nuxified.com/artwork-todo <-- agree is the colour using 256 :D [01:09] artnay: yeah... but somebody must create a page ... that is create a suitable name for it :) [01:09] Badm4n: it might be one of the improvements [01:09] it requires changes to how Usplash operates with fb [01:10] and it's not in dapper yet [01:13] i'm sorry but i cant find to change my png to 16 colours. [01:13] how that is posible ? [01:13] are you creating an image? [01:13] nope [01:13] i open my old png [01:13] maybe it has more colours than just 16 [01:14] yes [01:14] how to change it to 16 [01:14] or i must create a new one ? [01:15] no [01:16] $EDITOR 16colours [01:16] #!/bin/sh [01:16] convert -depth 24 $1 $1 [01:16] convert -depth 16 $1 $1 [01:16] convert -depth 8 $1 $1 [01:16] convert -colors 16 $1 $1 [01:16] paste those lines there [01:16] then sh 16colours currentimage.png new16colourimage.png [01:17] I guess that's one way to do it. I'm on XP machine at the moment and I don't have da GIMP here :( [01:18] lol [01:18] ok ok [01:20] root@tequila:/home/mirza# sh 16kolor.sh look1a.png uslash.png [01:20] 16kolor.sh: line 2: convert: command not found [01:20] 16kolor.sh: line 3: convert: command not found [01:20] 16kolor.sh: line 4: convert: command not found [01:20] 16kolor.sh: line 5: convert: command not found [01:20] lolz [01:21] nevermind [01:21] maybe nextime [01:22] i'll get my xp on now :D:)) [01:22] brb === Badm4n [n=MnY@202.153.251.109] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:27] that requires imagemagick I guess === Badm4n on xp rite now [01:27] lol [01:27] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install imagemagick [01:30] lukacu: I try to move that stuff out of text page into a wiki page [01:30] today if I just find time for that, any help will be much appreciated [01:31] hey guys [01:31] sorry i wasn't around earlier [01:31] festivities and whatnot :) [01:32] artnay: i will help [01:32] hello klepas [01:32] no prob, take a look what lukacu and I were discussing [01:33] andyfitz left from here and bvc doesn't hang on IRC :( === klepas is talking to andy atm via jabber [01:35] should i tell him to come in? [01:35] no, don't force him :D [01:35] it would be nice to have +20 people on the channel [01:36] well ... thats a bit too much to expect i guess :) [01:37] anyways, it's the 23rd of Dec here in Finland. I've nearly finished my work and therefore leaving soon [01:37] lukacu: it shouldn't be [01:38] I see lots of interest in graphics at ubuntuforums [01:38] if only we could get some of those guys to join this channel [01:38] not much talk in here :( [01:38] ok ... perhaps i dont see the whole picture here [01:39] well I think there should be artwork team at ubuntuforums [01:39] have links in signatures [01:39] that way people would be aware what's happening, that there's a team that is supposed to do some artwork [01:40] maybe I'll post a suggestion to admins of ubuntuforums [01:40] :) [01:40] I mean, there's tweaker team, documentation team, kubuntu team, god knows what [01:41] we don't even have a proper wiki page, how should people know about all of this? [01:41] i agree :) [01:42] yea [01:42] i think the best way to tackle this is discuss if over that general meeting I proposed [01:42] has anyone actually gotten it? [01:42] I didn't get a copy... [01:43] i just think that we should not expect too much ... but it will be a start [01:43] copy of what? I haven't even subscribed, I always use fx to read the list :9 [01:43] klepas: hey, read the wiki page proposition [01:43] ive received a meeting proposal on the ml [01:44] to have a voting of the meeting time [01:44] as a wiki page [01:44] and add option "I don't care, I'll participate anyway" [01:44] :) [01:44] "I don't care, I'm not coming" :o [01:45] klepas: 21.12. [ubuntu-art] General Ubuntu Art meeting for December ? is that correct email? [01:45] anyways, I'm leaving now. in case we don't have a discussion here later today, happy holidays (or may I say "Merry Christmas!") to all of you [01:45] lukacu: that is [01:45] no replies :( [01:46] ok, take care [01:46] bye [01:47] yes lukacu [01:47] that is the right email === klepas wonders why he doesn't have a copy [01:48] :) === klepas is upset [01:48] Oh, have i mentioned [01:48] i'm meeting Andy and Mark Shuttleworth [01:48] in 31 days! [01:48] :) [01:48] :D [01:49] actually i'll be sitting in on Andy's presentation [01:49] and listening to Mark's one as well [01:49] ought to be awesome [01:51] well.. it is always good to know people at high places :) [01:52] where are you meeting them? [01:54] LCA2006 [01:54] http://lca2006.linux.org.au/ [01:56] thats a huge event :) [01:56] sure is [01:57] is shipit.com absolutely freee ? cause i request one :F [01:58] :D [02:02] using usps ? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:50] Badm4n: it is [02:50] hi mhz [02:50] i c [02:50] so it will take about 7 days ? [02:50] if em not wrong [02:50] hi artnay, how's it going? [02:50] Badm4n: it is completely free although you won't receive the CD on your door :) [02:51] Badm4n: seven days? I don't know, there might still be queue left (all the time, baby) [02:51] maybe a month or so [02:51] i c :p [02:51] mhz: I'm fine, not at job anymore ;). you? [02:53] artnay: me looking for a job (it's been 2 1/5 months with no 'getting money', just working as volunteer) [02:57] Badm4n: CDs I meant... and they aren't "free", canonical is paying. so order a bunch of CDs and spread 'em in your neighbourhood [02:57] now that's marketing ;D [02:57] hmmmm [02:57] mhz: volunteering? which projects? [02:57] edubuntu and tecnocimiento [02:58] sounds reasonable [02:58] artnay: tecnocimiento is my project but 'the getting ready to get funds part' took us almost 4 months and now it is a terrible season to start carrying out the plan [02:59] sorry i haven't been paying attention guys [02:59] so i'll have to wait until march-april [03:00] artnay: however, i am not complaining, please dont feel like that. I was just telling you. [03:00] :) [03:00] hey [03:00] how many of you lot have read that general meeting mail? [03:02] klepas: you would get replies if you had GMT time on it :) [03:02] so, voting? [03:03] voting on it? [03:03] would be cool [03:03] yeah, for time [03:03] might set up a poll on my site [03:04] let's use wiki so everyone can edit it, add their comments [03:05] yeah, wiki rocks! [03:05] klepas: i have not read it. when did you sen it? [03:05] better idea [03:06] 4-5 days ago [03:06] a poll and comments? would be easier === mhz reading logs.. [03:07] klepas: then, fridge? [03:07] and a .ics file for meetings [03:08] yep [03:08] jdub [03:08] Jeff Waugh (btw, who i am also meeting) has already agreed [03:08] to put the event info on the fridge [03:08] only condition [03:08] we need to work out a time first =\ [03:10] klepas: hmm, i see no 'meeting' match in subjects regarding [-art] [03:11] (not in my inbox) [03:13] mhz_BBS: neither in mine [03:13] and i sent it [03:13] so i am going to sent it again [03:13] thx and sorry [03:14] no worries [03:14] i'm having the same problem [03:17] http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php - this sticker thingie reminds me of something. back when AMD didn't have those with CPUs, people were able to order via web [03:17] they sent all kind of stuff actually [03:18] artnay: i'm going to beg Mark for some goodies [03:18] so i'll bring that back with me [03:18] and take some photos for you lot :D [03:18] breezy posters... [03:18] autographed Ubuntu CDs... [03:18] :) [03:21] klepas: take some Dappers, too [03:22] ah, good idea [03:22] :) [03:25] mmhh [03:25] i'd be happy to post some [03:25] signed discs [03:25] so if any of you lot want any [03:25] i'd be happy to organise some [03:25] and then talk with you individually later for sending them your way [03:26] artnay: ? :) [03:27] klepas: one for me please :) [03:29] rightio [03:29] klepas: sure. [03:29] Ubuntu or Kubuntu? [03:29] and which architecture? [03:29] Umh, I prefer KDE but Ubuntu as a name ;D [03:31] ubuntu / x86 [03:32] oh I wish Ubuntu Express would be stable when Dappers go wild [03:34] alrighty [03:34] artnay: so Kubuntu for you? [03:34] i know Mark carries special copies around with him... [03:34] one for me, please. ;D [03:35] x86 [03:35] that's it [03:36] live, that would be cool. [03:38] :) [03:38] no promises though guys [03:38] i'll try my best, while not angering the MOTU! [03:38] :P === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:44] klepas: sorry.. i emptied the battery :) [03:46] no worries [03:46] mhz: i'll grab any necessary details off you all later [03:46] klepas: you are sending it to the ML? [03:46] once i come back and actually have the discs [03:47] sending what to the ML? the General meeting info? [03:47] yup [03:49] will do later [03:49] first i need some sleep [04:11] good night folks [04:11] Merry Christmas! === bachler [i=rakahang@62.101.48.8] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kafeine [n=kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === miketech [n=miketech@p54B277CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bachler [i=rakahang@62.101.48.8] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Danten [n=danten@h202n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-artwork === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:45] mhz_bbl: === omeg [n=omega@h8441190238.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lukacu [n=lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.dynamic.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:54] hey lukacu [12:00] hey artnay [12:01] any progress on agenda wiki page?