[01:31] <jsgotangco> "MoreRecentMadwifiHowto"
[01:31] <jsgotangco> lol
[01:32] <mdke_> mm?
[01:32] <mdke_> Burglaptop, wtf?
[01:33] <jsgotangco> nice title
[01:33] <Burglaptop> mdke_: what is it?
[01:33] <mdke_> np, i see it, the redirect is to a dud address
[01:33] <Burglaptop> I am cleaning up old wiki pages
[01:34] <mdke_> yeah, you can't use ["blah"]  in the REDIRECT
[01:34] <mdke_> just #REDIRECT Madwiki-ng does the trick
[01:34] <Burglaptop> ah bloody hell, #$%ERWT^%@$%$@#$%@$W#WERTWE$^% moin
[01:35] <mdke_> can't we just delete the page "MoreRecentetc"?
[01:35] <mdke_> it's a silly name anyhow
[01:36] <Burglaptop> sure, I am just being paranoid
[01:37] <mdke_> google shows nothing of interest really, i'm gonna nuke it :)
[01:37] <Burglaptop> can we nuke old main inclusion reports?
[01:38] <Burglaptop> hmm, moin 1.5 is about to be released
[01:38] <Burglaptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootGrub
[01:38] <mdke_> there are loads... i think we should, but best ask mdz or kamion or pitti or someone
[01:39] <jsgotangco> mdke_, wow i thought the server guide had lots of love...its like 75% empty at the moment
[01:39] <Burglaptop> hmm, none of them appear to be one right now
[01:39] <mdke_> jsgotangco, that's right
[01:40] <Burglaptop> should I just delete /forum/ stuff?
[01:40] <jsgotangco> excellent
[01:41] <mdke_> Burglaptop, eh?
[01:41] <mdke_> no!
[01:41] <Burglaptop> mdke_: stuff under /forum that has been moved into the main namespace
[01:41] <mdke_> Burglaptop, yes, if it is duplicate, sure
[01:42] <Burglaptop> ok
[01:42] <Burglaptop> mdke_: how are you google searching for wiki pages?
[01:42] <mdke_> putting in the name of the page
[01:44] <mdke_> anyone know anything about MythTV?
[01:44] <mdke_> looks like we have two duplicate pages that need merging...
[01:45] <mdke_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallMythOnUbuntu
[01:45] <mdke_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTV
[01:45] <Burglaptop> I have never touched it
[01:46] <Burglaptop> holy crap we are having almost tropical weather right now'
[01:46] <Burglaptop> really heavy rain and thunder, almost unheardof heere
[01:46] <jsgotangco> ?
[01:46] <mdke_> cool
[01:46] <jsgotangco> it doesnt snow in victoria?
[01:46] <jsgotangco> its getting quite cold over here in manila
[01:47] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: once a year, and it stays for about 2 days
[01:47] <jsgotangco> lol
[01:47] <jsgotangco> that's sad
[01:47] <jsgotangco> at least a week's worth of snow is fun
[01:48] <Burglaptop> no, its great. I hate snow
[01:48] <jsgotangco> lol i like snow for a really short time
[01:48] <mdke_> snow is pretty
[01:48] <Burglaptop> yes, it is. On skihills
[01:49] <jsgotangco> until your neighbor's dog decides to take a dump
[01:51] <Burglaptop> I haven't been working enough
[01:51] <Burglaptop> mdke_: what was the result of the CC meeting on wiki licensing?
[01:52] <jsgotangco> how is it working in userful?
[01:52] <Burglaptop> good
[01:53] <mdke_> Burglaptop, approved, subject to the changes I've made on the page
[01:53] <Burglaptop> mdke_: so we are going with CC-PD?
[01:53] <mdke_> yes
[01:53] <Burglaptop> excellent
[01:54] <Burglaptop> thanks for taking the lead on that
[01:54] <mdke_> no problem
[01:57] <jsgotangco> because they dont have anything more decent than that?
[01:58] <Burglaptop> what is in that packages is apparently backends that suck
[01:58] <Burglaptop> to me, either ship them whole hog or don't ship them at all
[02:01] <Burglaptop> mdke_: you want to add the Hula article to the mail page?
[02:04] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco, mdke_: either of you have a scanner present?
[02:05] <mdke_> no to the latter question
[02:05] <mdke_> probably, no to the former too: hula isn't actually production ready is it?
[02:06] <Burglaptop> mdke_: not really
[02:06] <Burglaptop> but mention that it isn't
[02:06] <mdke_> i don't have a problem with that
[02:08] <mdke> but it should be obvious that if someone wants a serious mail server, they shouldn't rely on that
[02:08] <mdke> oh crap another thing is procmail
[02:11] <jsgotangco> i have a really crappy scanner
[02:12] <jsgotangco> that my wife only uses on osx
[02:13] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: that would be great
[02:13] <Burglaptop> ScanningHowTo needs to be expanded
[02:13] <jsgotangco> no it isn't really
[02:13] <jsgotangco> its a Brother scanner
[02:14] <jsgotangco> possibly the worst brand you can get in asia
[02:14] <jsgotangco> but sure i
[02:14] <jsgotangco> i'll try
[02:21] <Burglaptop> posted a request to ubuntu-users and -doc to get help on the scanning pagse
[02:30] <jsgotangco> hello King of Dragons
[02:31] <KingBahamut> lol
[02:31] <KingBahamut> I am not kind
[02:31] <KingBahamut> er
[02:31] <KingBahamut> king
[02:31] <KingBahamut> just a guy
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi kb
[02:33] <Burglaptop> KingBahamut, Kamping_Kaiser: Do either of you own a scanner?
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, it's up in the house somewhere
[02:33] <KingBahamut> lol
[02:33] <KingBahamut> 2 
[02:33] <KingBahamut> er
[02:33] <KingBahamut> no
[02:33] <KingBahamut> 3 in the house
[02:33] <KingBahamut> why?
[02:33] <Burglaptop> Kamping_Kaiser: I command thee to go to ScanningHowTo and help the page out
[02:33] <mdke> lol
[02:34] <KingBahamut> Kamping_Kaiser, say "Yes My Liege"
[02:34] <Burglaptop> be careful, I have a wet noodle I know how to use it!
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> verily, it (may) be done
[02:34] <Burglaptop> mostly I am interested in what happens when it doesn't work
[02:34] <Burglaptop> but the when it does could be filled out a little too
[02:35] <KingBahamut> If I ever become an evil overlord, and one of my advisors says "My liege he is but one man, what can he possibly do?" I will say "This!!!!" and shot the advisor immeidately 
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. love that
[02:35] <KingBahamut> Peter Ansbach is the man 
[02:39] <Burglaptop> can I nuke this finally? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[02:39] <jsgotangco> brb kernel reboot
[02:42] <mdke> Burglaptop, is it duplicate?
[02:42] <Burglaptop> mdke: NewUserGuideM? yes
[02:43] <Burglaptop> RestrictedFormats and a few other pages cover it
[02:43] <mdke> sure, bin
[02:43] <mdke> no links on wiki
[02:43] <mdke> ah, check ubotu, i think it has it
[02:44] <Burglaptop> ugh, ya
[02:44] <mdke> np, just get ubotu to drop it
[02:45] <Burglaptop> do we have rights over it?
[02:45] <mdke> yeah, it's open
[02:45] <Burglaptop> http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=NewUserGuideMultimedia&b=Find+%BB disagrees with !multimedia
[02:46] <mdke> disagrees?
[02:47] <mdke> RestrictedFormats and MultimediApplications probably cover everything
[02:47] <Burglaptop> !multimedia brings me nothing, but the website claims it has !multimedia
[02:48] <mdke> ask an ubotu geek i guess
[02:50] <Burglaptop> bloody locales bug
[02:50] <Burglaptop> I don't know how to get past it
[02:50] <KingBahamut> its good to sit in this channel and here proper use of the word bloody
[02:50] <KingBahamut> I never hear it where I live now 
[02:50] <jsgotangco> its still there?
[02:51] <mdke> what locales bug?
[02:51] <mdke> didn't notice anything
[02:51] <jsgotangco> pitti made a massive change in the use of locales 2 days ago
[02:51] <mdke> yeah, works here tho
[02:52] <Burglaptop> straight upgrading breaks and forcing it doesn't seem to work
[02:52] <mdke> ah, my upgrade dipped out on locales once actually
[02:52] <mdke> i just did another upgrade and it worked
[02:52] <jsgotangco> ill try upgradeing later
[02:52] <jsgotangco> but its not in my todo list atm
[02:52] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:17] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:17] <jsgotangco> hey
[03:19] <mdke> hiya
[03:19] <Burglaptop> salut Madpilot
[03:19] <Madpilot> hi Burglaptop
[03:19] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: you headed to maria's on sat?
[03:20] <Madpilot> Burgwork: yes - you at C's still?
[03:20] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: yep
[03:20] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: taking the truck?
[03:20] <Madpilot> yes, I've got it already
[03:21] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: can you pick me up at Curious Comics at 2pm on Sat?
[03:21] <Madpilot> Burglaptop: it's going to have to be earlier than that - the ferry is at 2:30
[03:21] <Madpilot> call me @ Clive's right now?
[03:22] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: calling
[03:24] <mdke> jjesse, around?
[03:26] <mdke> lol@ Burglaptop's use of the term "real estate" on the wiki
[03:27] <jsgotangco> wow this is a rarity, most of us are online
[03:27] <mdke> heh
[03:27] <mdke> 2.30 am
[03:27] <mdke> i don't have work tomorrow :)
[03:28] <jsgotangco> same here
[03:28] <jsgotangco> until the 26th
[03:28] <mdke> i'm off until the 5th :)
[03:28] <mdke> thank god
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> didnt know there was this many people :O
[03:29] <jsgotangco> well i can go back to work next year if i have too
[03:29] <jsgotangco> i just have too many things to do at the moment
[03:30] <mdke> :(
[03:31] <jsgotangco> there are times i have to turn over work offers
[03:31] <mdke> mm?
[03:32] <jsgotangco> i get invited to do some external doc projects for a fee, its just converting to docbook really but good money 
[03:32] <jsgotangco> most of them are foss related as well
[03:32] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: that is cool
[03:32] <mdke> no time tho?
[03:32] <jsgotangco> mdke, yeah i once tried recommending rob but they prefer someone from developing countries
[03:33] <jsgotangco> (its the United Nations thing)
[03:33] <jsgotangco> there are tangible projects that involve writing new material but they just can't find good foss people active in projects in the region
[03:36] <mdke> hey Burglaptop, there are loads of Bugs subpages, but no parent, perhaps we could make an index, and include things like BugReports
[03:36] <Burglaptop> mdke: can do
[03:38] <mdke> cool
[03:39] <Burglaptop> isn't there some sane bug reporting stuff that dholbach was working on?
[03:39] <mdke> no sure, there are a lot of bug pages on the wiki ;)
[03:39] <Burglaptop> it was a spec that he was working on
[03:41] <Madpilot> Burglaptop: just read part of the backscroll - when you're in pm with the bot, leave the ! off the commands - so !multimedia is never going to work, but just multimedia does...
[03:42] <Burglaptop> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/best-practices-bugs
[04:28] <mdke> hey robitaille 
[04:29] <mdke> gah
[04:29] <mdke> hey rob1, too
[04:29] <rob1> hi mdke 
[04:29] <robitaille> hi mdke 
[04:29] <mdke> :)
[04:29] <mdke> rob1, how about we arrange a good meeting time now?
[04:30] <mdke> mmmmm
[04:31] <rob1> I've already lost one keyboard to a cup of coffee
[04:31] <jsgotangco> right now?
[04:31] <rob1> a few weeks ago
[04:31] <Madpilot> I lost one to a big cup of tea last year - burned my foot too...
[04:32] <robitaille> I don't drink coffee or tea, so I'm must be safe
[04:32] <rob1> I lost one at work due to spag bowl
[04:32] <robitaille> but my boss once lost a keyboard caused by  7-11 Big Gulp full of soda
[04:32] <Madpilot> robitaille: ha! water does quite nicely at kb killing
[04:33] <robitaille> that's it; no water for me from now on!
[04:33] <Madpilot> so does cat pee - a friend lost a keyboard that way a few years ago :P
[04:33] <rob1> tomato paste is quite bad once it finds its way through
[04:33] <mdke> you guys are gourmet keyboard ruiners
[04:34] <jsgotangco> bah only shows you guys dont leave your computers at all
[04:34] <mdke> yuck indeed
[04:35] <mpt> mmmm, Dairy Coke
[04:35] <mdke> so can we talk meeting, or should I sleep?
[04:35] <rob1> sure
[04:35] <rob1> umm
[04:35] <rob1> what would be a good time for people?
[04:35] <jsgotangco> what does it take to become the next cd cover model
[04:35] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:35] <mdke> I'm gonna be away between tomorrow and tuesday I think
[04:36] <mdke> otherwise I should be relatively free, within normal UTC daytime hours
[04:36] <Madpilot> 1400Z is OK, if it's the least-worst time for you folks in .au & elsewhere eastward
[04:36] <rob1> yeah this weekend will be busy for everyone I think
[04:36] <Madpilot> Date-wise, I'm not free until after the 26th
[04:36] <jsgotangco> all that food and free time...
[04:36] <jsgotangco> that's deadly
[04:37] <mdke> hmm I'm not around during the afternoon on the 27th, could make the evening though
[04:38] <rob1> could we make it on 1000z on 27th?
[04:38] <mdke> perhaps even late evening, if rob1 has wednesday morning free
[04:38] <Madpilot> evening which time zone?
[04:38] <mdke> rob1, ah that sounds good
[04:38] <mdke> might be made for MP tho
[04:38] <mdke> made/bad*
[04:38] <rob1> thats like 8pm for me
[04:39] <Madpilot> 1000Z is 0200 local I think
[04:39] <mdke> hmm
[04:39] <Madpilot> yes, it is...
[04:39] <mdke> i might still be away too
[04:39] <mdke> 22utc on 27th?
[04:39] <mdke> let's keep shooting times at each other
[04:40] <rob1> thats.. umm 8am on the 28th for me
[04:40] <Madpilot> evening UTC is no good, I always work afternoons
[04:40] <mdke> ah right
[04:40] <mdke> hmm
[04:40] <rob1> heh I don't wake up before 9am on holidays ;)
[04:40] <mdke> maybe next weekend...
[04:41] <jsgotangco> why not just meet after the new year
[04:41] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:41] <rob1> except I'm sure my kids will get me up on christmas day at like 5am
[04:41] <mdke> hehe
[04:41] <Madpilot> Next weekends are Xmas & New Years, remember...
[04:41] <jsgotangco> how expensive are kids in au during christmas
[04:41] <rob1> jsgotangco, very
[04:42] <jsgotangco> like everyone of them are asking for a game console?
[04:42] <mdke> can any of the meeting agenda items be address by email?
[04:42] <rob1> nar I have an xbox, the new one isn't out here yet
[04:42] <Madpilot> mdke: most of them could, probably
[04:42] <rob1> and besides, I'd buy that for me
[04:42] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:42] <mdke> Madpilot, i'd like that, but the threads I started before didn't go anywhere
[04:42] <mdke> hey mpt, i wanted to ask, what's the status on AboutUbuntu? any mockup or anything? just curious
[04:43] <mdke> rob1, if we try email, do you promise to reply? :)
[04:43] <rob1> just like the bathurst racing car set and the remote control car I bought for.. umm.. my "son".
[04:44] <mpt> mdke, I haven't touched the code since UBZ, but I plan to finish it up during the Christmas~New-Year break
[04:44] <rob1> mdke, yeah email the list would be the best bet
[04:44] <Madpilot> rob1: do you at least allow your kids to *look* at your toys? :P
[04:44] <mdke> mpt, that would be awesome, what state is it in now?
[04:44] <rob1> Madpilot, I need someone to race againt on the slot car track!
[04:44] <mdke> rob1, ok, we'll try!
[04:45] <mpt> mdke, mostly working, except there's a stray backslash etc in the version number, Ctrl+W doesn't close the window, and there's no drag-and-drop yet
[04:46] <mdke> oh cool, got a screenshot or something?
[04:54] <mpt> mdke, not at the moment sorry, where I'm staying only has dialup, and my Ubuntu machine doesn't
[04:54] <mdke> mpt, np I'll look forward to seeing it anyway :)
[04:54] <mdke> -> sleep
[04:55] <mdke> oh jjesse, DocumentationTeam/News on the wiki needs some Kubuntu love, if you're around
[04:56] <jsgotangco> i'll cover that
[04:56] <jsgotangco> he'll be out for a week
[04:57] <mdke> ah bummer, thanks
[04:57] <jsgotangco> you seem disappointed that i'm going to do it :)
[04:57] <mdke> no, disappointed that he's not around, he has been doing lots of work on the kubuntu side
[04:57] <mdke> but happy if you do it, of course
[04:58] <jsgotangco> =)
[05:52] <Madpilot> doing what, exactly?
[05:53] <Burglaptop> try to force it to give me RecentChanges for more than 90 days
[05:54] <Madpilot> why are you digging that deep?
[05:54] <Burglaptop> to try and find pages that have not been touched since the wiki move
[05:55] <Madpilot> you really are bored, aren't you? :P
[05:55] <Madpilot> there's an OrphanPages macro too, if you want to go at it that way for old cruft...
[05:55] <Burglaptop> not really, just a little stircrazy
[05:55] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMacros <-- look for the AbandonedPages macro
[05:56] <Burglaptop> yes, looking at that now
[05:56] <Madpilot> anyway, back later - shopping run...
[06:54] <Burglaptop> well, I think I just killed our wiki server
[06:55] <crimsun> hooray?
[06:55] <rob1> ?
[06:56] <Burglaptop> I opened about 35 windows, each of which needs to be processed
[06:56] <Burglaptop> in case you missed it, I am deleting pages
[06:56] <rob1> nah its working here
[06:56] <Burglaptop> and moving UDU bofs to underneath UbuntuBelowZero
[06:56] <Burglaptop> make that UDU
[06:57] <rob1> go nuts, I just fried my brain with a little bit of python, so I'm done doing anything useful for the day
[06:57] <Burglaptop> rob1: what sort of pits of python and what for?
[06:57] <rob1> classes
[06:58] <Burglaptop> ah
[06:58] <rob1> lots of pennies dropped here
[06:59] <rob1> suddenly reading other people code makes a lot more sense too
[06:59] <jsgotangco> wow so you're learning python
[07:00] <rob1> I've been meaning to do so for about 2+ years
[07:00] <rob1> I have several books collecting dust, along with all my old mcse stuff
[07:00] <jsgotangco> haha
[07:01] <jsgotangco> my mcp just went to waste
[07:01] <jsgotangco> well actually i wasted good money for that
[07:01] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: so did I
[07:01] <jsgotangco> Burglaptop, wiki spammer :P
[07:01] <Burglaptop> hey, it is a dirty job, but someone has to do it
[07:02] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: got any serious objections, or are you just throwing poo from the sidelines?
[07:03] <jsgotangco> Burglaptop, hehe don't take it seriously =)
[07:03] <jsgotangco> its not like i didnt know what .* will do in the first place =)
[07:03] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: ok. do shout if you see anything you think should be saved/not done
[07:04] <Madpilot> Burglaptop: you've produced 5 screens of RecentChanges stuff... my god!
[07:04] <jsgotangco> yes you have a wiki monster for a brother
[07:05] <Burglaptop> I am bored so I am doing something
[07:05] <jsgotangco> wake up your gf?
[07:06] <Burglaptop> no, my GF has friends over and the pain is too much for me to be able to be out with company right now
[07:06] <rob1> slap the salami?
[07:06] <Burglaptop> rob1: ouch
[07:06] <Burglaptop> so I am taking my pain out of the wiki
[07:08] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: only 5 pages?
[07:14] <Madpilot> Burglaptop: OK, six now... 
[07:15] <Burglaptop> I might be able to make 10 by the time I go to sleep
[07:15] <Burglaptop> but the wiki is being slow for me with these pages that take computational power
[07:29] <jsgotangco> are you sure there's only 1 Corey burger doing those edits
[07:29] <jsgotangco> hehe
[07:29] <Burglaptop> yep
[07:30] <Burglaptop> one very very bored corey burger
[07:30] <Burglaptop> thsi cleanup has needed to be done for a while
[07:32] <Madpilot> it's actually a BurgerBot :P
[07:42] <jsgotangco> rob1, hmm i didnt know people magazine in au had naked chicks
[07:49] <jsgotangco> my god the email notification comes in almost every 5 seconds heh
[07:51] <rob1> heh
[07:51] <rob1> you can send in photos of yourself and they will print them, chicks and guys
[07:52] <rob1> there are usually 3 to 4 pages of "home girls" at the back
[07:52] <rob1> I think you can win money or something too
[07:52] <jsgotangco> "model citizens"
[07:53] <rob1> there are always a lot of backpacker chicks in there
[07:53] <Burglaptop> jsgotangco: I am about to go to sleep
[07:53] <rob1> one of the guys at work had his girlfriend in there a few months ago, she was sitting on his car
[07:54] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: you're subscribed to the entire wiki? Insane...
[07:54] <rob1> ouch
[07:55] <jsgotangco> People magazine in NA is a celebrity mag
[07:55] <jsgotangco> hehe
[07:55] <rob1> heh
[07:56] <rob1> Dear Robert Thank you for emailing LG Electronics. Unfortunately you will need the remote control to remove the child lock. You can purchase a remote control from Statewide Appliances on 1800 005 220. I hope this has been of assistance Merry Christmas Karine LG Electronics
[07:56] <rob1> great, now how am I supposed to watch the pool instruction video?
[07:56] <rob1> bloody LG
[07:56] <Madpilot> hmm?
[07:57] <Burglaptop> in the last two hours, there are have 2 edits that were not made by me
[07:58] <Madpilot> rob1: I'm intrigued - what do child locks & LG Elect. have to do with pool videos?
[07:58] <rob1> I lost the remote control to my VCR
[07:59] <Madpilot> ... and you've got something set so the offspring can't use the VCR unsupervised, that can only be removed w/ the remote?
[08:00] <rob1> yeah, its like that by default
[08:00] <rob1> apparently the vcr talks too..
[08:01] <rob1> I wish it could tell me where the remote is
[08:01] <jsgotangco> nice
[08:01] <Madpilot> talking appliances bug me... I always hear, "I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave."
[08:03] <Burglaptop> Madpilot's computer says "Power on self test completed. Now booting operating system"
[08:03] <Burglaptop> at least it doesn't say  "Now booting Windows"
[08:03] <rob1> I used to have an intel mobo that did something like that
[08:03] <Madpilot> ... lovely ASUS bonus system :)
[08:04] <Madpilot> I wanted to reprogram it w/ HAL 9000s voice, but the ASUS voice editing apps are Windows only
[08:04] <Burglaptop> given ASUSes attitude towards Linux/BSD, I am surprised it doesn't say 
[08:04] <Burglaptop> Windows
[08:05] <rob1> heh apparetly some guy has figured out how to run Linux as a Windows screensaver
[08:06] <jsgotangco> mmm?
[08:07] <rob1> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-scrnsave/
[08:08] <jsgotangco> WOW
[08:08] <Madpilot> very strange... so you get to look at a decent OS, but when you touch the mouse it goes back to Windows :P
[08:08] <rob1> some guy = IBM
[08:09] <rob1> no, there are screenshots
[08:09] <jsgotangco> someone had lots of time in his hands
[08:09] <rob1> yeah not wrong
[08:09] <rob1> I wonder how useful this would be as a ready made demo?
[08:09] <Burglaptop> we should publish an official Ubuntu one
[08:10] <rob1> ubuntu express will be exactly that, no reboot even!
[08:10] <Burglaptop> yes, but the screensaver allows an even lower cost
[08:10] <jsgotangco> well we do have a vmware image that can run on vmware player
[08:11] <rob1> jsgotangco, yes, but this way you don't even need vmware player
[08:11] <jsgotangco> true you just provide an exe file
[08:11] <rob1> I wonder if it runs faster?
[08:11] <Burglaptop> night all, I am done spamming your inboxes
[08:11] <rob1> night Burglaptop 
[08:12] <Madpilot> night
[08:13] <rob1> heh it uses qemu
[08:20] <jsgotangco> rob1, if you use vodaphone i can send you all the mobile stuff you want
[08:20] <jsgotangco> hehe
[08:20] <jsgotangco> incluing the pretty wallpapers you see in people
[08:20] <rob1> nup, don't have a mobile
[08:20] <jsgotangco> dug
[08:22] <rob1> I hate people calling me when I'm doing stuff ;)
[08:23] <jsgotangco> heh i built the mobilemojo.com machine
[12:41] <mdke> hmm Burgwork you moved the specs anyway?
[12:43] <mdke> what is UbuntuDownBelow?
[02:44] <jjesse> mdke: when you get a second, can you add releasenotes for dapper under the kubuntu work in progress?
[02:45] <mdke> jjesse, sure, it builds ok yeah?
[02:45] <jjesse> yes sir, verifies and everything
[02:45] <mdke> great, nice work dude
[02:45] <jjesse> thanks hopefully Riddell will get a chance to take a look at it so we can get it included
[02:46] <mdke> I'm sure we will: plenty of time before dapper is released
[03:20] <jjesse> are we going w/ the release # or code name in the docs?
[03:21] <jjesse> mdke: do you know why when i build the web version of release notes it goes into kubuntu/build/release-notes-web?? I thought builds should go into build/kubuntu/
[03:29] <mdke> jjesse, must be a mistake in the makefile, I'll do it
[03:29] <mdke> as long as it validates, there will be no problem
[03:29] <jjesse> mdke: if i do a make release-notes-web it goes into that location, if i do a make release-notes it goes to kubuntu/build/release-notes
[03:30] <jjesse> if i do a make rn (which I thought I was supposed to be doing) it goes to trunk/build/kubuntu/releasenotes/C/
[03:30] <mdke> oh hang on... that might be intentional I suppose
[03:30] <mdke> i'll take a look later
[03:39] <jsgotangco> hey all
[03:39] <jsgotangco> happy holidays!
[03:41] <mdke> jjesse, yeah looks like that might be intentional, best ask Riddell
[03:41] <mdke> hi jsgotangco 
[03:41] <jsgotangco> mmmm?
[03:44] <jsgotangco> mdke, this is about?
[03:46] <mdke> jsgotangco, the kubuntu docs get built in /trunk/kubuntu/build rather than /trunk/build/kubuntu
[03:46] <mdke> looks like it might be intentional so I'd like to check with riddell
[03:46] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[03:47] <mdke> jjesse, i believe _all_ the kubuntu docs get built there, don't they?
[03:47] <jsgotangco> jjesse, are you going to do an update on kubuntu? what specific doc?
[03:55] <mpt> jjesse, the rule we're approaching for Launchpad is codename for URLs, version number for everything else
[03:56] <mpt> because after a codename has been decided, it stays the same, even if the version number slips
[03:57] <mpt> that lets you write docs with an unbreaking URL before the release, even if the release slips by a month or two
[03:57] <mdke> mpt, the Ubuntu version numbers slip?
[03:57] <mpt> Well, they haven't yet, but you never know ;-)
[03:57] <mdke> well we use entities for version numbers and codenames anyway
[03:57] <mdke> so it only takes 2 seconds to change it if it slips
[03:57] <mdke> for all docs
[03:57] <mpt> nifty
[03:58] <mpt> anyway, bedtime for me
[03:58] <mdke> gnight
[06:18] <LaserJock> mdke: pint?
[06:18] <LaserJock> s/pint/ping
[06:19] <LaserJock> mdke: did you talk to -motu about the GLUTransition page you deleted? I thought they were still using it (at least I was a little bit)
[06:56] <jjesse> mmmm lunch
[07:57] <jjesse> everyong already checked out for christmas?
[08:05] <Burglaptop> nope
[08:34] <jjesse> Burglaptop: do you know what timezone jerome is ?  he had somequestions for me and didn't want to miss him before i step out for the break
[08:35] <Burglaptop> +10 I think
[09:01] <Burglaptop> shall I deleted the old /talk pages that simply list subpages?
[09:25] <jjesse> Burglaptop: why not seems like a lot of extra useless crap
[09:38] <Burglaptop> jjesse: yep
[11:59] <mdke> Burglaptop:
[12:00] <mdke>  [17:19:54]  < LaserJock> mdke: did you talk to -motu about the GLUTransition page you deleted? I thought they were still
[12:00] <mdke>           using it (at least I was a little bit)
[12:00] <Burglaptop> mdke: yes I did
[12:00] <mdke> shall we bring it back then?
[12:00] <Burglaptop> I cleared it with crimsun
[12:00] <Burglaptop> they are done with it
[12:00] <Burglaptop> I spoke with them before I deleted it
[12:00] <mdke> if you see laserjock, maybe tell him
[12:01] <Burglaptop> can do
[12:01] <mdke> but he seems to want it so I am gonna restore it, it doesn't do any harm right?
[12:01] <Burglaptop> nope
[12:02] <mdke> stop em whinging :)
[12:03] <Burglaptop> indeed