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| ilmari | where do I report bugs agains universe packages not listed in bugzilla or launchpad? | 12:25 |
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| ilmari | s/agains/against/ | 12:25 |
| crimsun_ | ilmari: ask for their source names to be added. /join #launchpad | 12:25 |
| crimsun_ | ilmari: then file the bug per usual | 12:25 |
| crimsun_ | granted, most people are probably on holiday | 12:26 |
| ilmari | oh, it's been added snice last I checked | 12:26 |
| ilmari | (dhcdbd) | 12:26 |
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| minghua | hi crimsun_, may I bug you to upload the scim-* rebuilds for me? | 12:36 |
| minghua | crimsun_: or if you are busy, I'm going to try asking other MOTUs | 12:37 |
| crimsun_ | minghua: sure, which #s? | 12:37 |
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| minghua | crimsun_: 5893, 5894, 5895, thanks | 12:39 |
| minghua | crimsun_: if you remember I said something about a bug for scim-uim, it is actually in uim, so scim-uim can be uploaded | 12:40 |
| crimsun_ | ok. | 12:40 |
| crimsun_ | sec. | 12:41 |
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| crimsun_ | minghua: is it intentional that #5895 has the debdiff for scim-chewing attached? | 12:47 |
| minghua | crimsun_: no. apparently I screwed up :-( | 12:48 |
| minghua | crimsun_: can you generate the rebuild yourself, or you want to wait for my new debdiff? | 12:49 |
| minghua | crimsun_: I really tested it, I just pasted the wrong debdiff | 12:49 |
| crimsun_ | minghua: I'll do it | 12:50 |
| minghua | crimsun_: thanks! | 12:50 |
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| sistpoty | I'm off to bed now... gn8 everyone | 01:08 |
| crimsun_ | night sistpoty | 01:08 |
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| Psoriasis | I have a free software project here: www.freshmeat.net/projects/idjc that I would like you to consider for inclusion in the ubuntu distibution. Thanks. | 01:48 |
| crimsun_ | wiki/UniverseCandidates. | 01:48 |
| Psoriasis | Thanks. | 01:50 |
| lifeless | thats a really unpleasant irc name btw. | 01:52 |
| jsgotangco | especially in the morning while eathing breakfast | 01:52 |
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| crimsun_ | vlc ftbfs due to mozilla not having been updated to cope with the firefox-dev New World Order | 02:06 |
| crimsun_ | this touches any package [!amd64] that b-ds on mozilla-dev | 02:07 |
| Kyral | crimsun_: you uploaded a new VLC today right? | 02:09 |
| crimsun_ | yes, but it ftbfs due to the issue I just stated. | 02:09 |
| crimsun_ | I'd fix it, but I don't have main upload privs. | 02:09 |
| Kyral | it has another problem | 02:10 |
| crimsun_ | what has what? | 02:10 |
| Kyral | VLC | 02:10 |
| Kyral | The following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc: Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.50) but it is not installable | 02:10 |
| crimsun_ | that's not the underlying issue. | 02:10 |
| Kyral | oh | 02:10 |
| Kyral | Sorry then | 02:11 |
| crimsun_ | a rebuild against the new dbus-transitioned libhal-dev would fix that, which is the entire reason I kicked it | 02:11 |
| Kyral | ah | 02:11 |
| crimsun_ | however, it's the mozilla-dev screwage that's causing it to ftbfs | 02:11 |
| Kyral | ah | 02:11 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:17 |
| Kyral | hey zul | 03:17 |
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| minghua | apt-proxy stores the cached packages at /var/cache/apt-proxy, right? (my /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf says so) | 04:46 |
| hub_ | hi | 04:51 |
| hub_ | can someone unarchive libiptcdata? | 04:51 |
| hub_ | it hasn't been uploaded | 04:51 |
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| Burglaptop | do you guys need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition anymore? | 05:54 |
| crimsun | no. | 05:54 |
| crimsun | we can probably make a Transitions hierarchy and stuff the info there | 05:55 |
| Burglaptop | page is dead | 05:55 |
| Burglaptop | do you want the information off of it? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | not necessary | 05:55 |
| Burglaptop | ok | 05:55 |
| minghua | any apt-proxy user here? | 05:58 |
| minghua | apt-proxy works fine for me, I'm just very curious where does it store the cached packages | 05:58 |
| hub_ | Burglaptop: question. did you order large quantity of ubuntu cds? | 05:59 |
| Burglaptop | hub_: nope, why? | 06:02 |
| hub_ | 'cause I get request a few buck of GST and $25 of fskcing broker fee | 06:02 |
| hub_ | extorsion | 06:02 |
| hub_ | so I was wondering what was others people situation | 06:03 |
| Burglaptop | hub_: my brother didn't get that | 06:03 |
| hub_ | I get them end of october. received the bill yesterday | 06:04 |
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| StevenK | minghua: /var/cache/apt-proxu | 06:17 |
| StevenK | Er, apt-proxy | 06:17 |
| minghua | StevenK: yeah, I thought so too (according to man page), but my /var/cache/apt-proxy is empty | 06:19 |
| minghua | but my download is still cached | 06:19 |
| minghua | which makes me even more curious | 06:19 |
| zakame | er are we in UVF now? | 06:27 |
| StevenK | I didn't think that was until next year? | 06:27 |
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| Burglaptop | zakame: not yet | 06:28 |
| zakame | Burglaptop: cool, I got confused then, with what's in DeveloperResources | 06:28 |
| Burglaptop | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule | 06:29 |
| Burglaptop | January 19th | 06:29 |
| zakame | ooh k | 06:30 |
| minghua | Hmm, no after a reboot I lost my apt-proxy cache | 06:32 |
| minghua | something is wrong here | 06:32 |
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| crimsun | oh wow, now that quod libet 0.16 supports mp4 and mpc, I have no reason to use rhythmbox at all | 06:48 |
| zakame | rocking, I was looking for an alt as well | 06:48 |
| minghua | okay, found the problem: exceptions.OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/cache/apt-proxy/debian' | 06:50 |
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| prabu^ | Hello al | 07:14 |
| prabu^ | i created the ptlink ircd package | 07:14 |
| crimsun | yes? | 07:27 |
| prabu^ | erm | 07:28 |
| prabu^ | wait it dont work :S | 07:28 |
| prabu^ | dh_installdocs | 07:28 |
| prabu^ | cp: cannot stat `ChangeLog:': No such file or directory | 07:28 |
| prabu^ | i get that :S | 07:28 |
| zakame | hm is libbonobomm1.3 not depending on libgtkmm2.0-1c2a yet? | 07:28 |
| crimsun | not yet. | 07:30 |
| zakame | waah, I couldn't build libbonobouimm1.3 ... | 07:30 |
| crimsun | prabu^: is it listed in .docs or something? | 07:30 |
| prabu^ | ah yea | 07:31 |
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| zakame | whoa libbonobomm1.3's in MoM, but not listed in sistpoty's | 07:32 |
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| crimsun | just ask him to refresh later. | 07:32 |
| zakame | I better take that pkg too :) | 07:33 |
| prabu^ | aha | 07:42 |
| prabu^ | done | 07:42 |
| prabu^ | so where do i submit the package for testing,etc ? | 07:42 |
| crimsun | REVU. | 07:43 |
| prabu^ | i register by joining the list correct ? | 07:44 |
| crimsun | there are instructions on the REVU page | 07:44 |
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| tseng | hi | 08:31 |
| crimsun | hi | 08:33 |
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| JohnnyMast | slomo ? | 09:43 |
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| dholbach | hellas motu wannabes and motus | 10:15 |
| lucas | hellas dholbach | 10:15 |
| dholbach | woohoo, another greek in here ;-) | 10:16 |
| lucas | (hellas others too) | 10:16 |
| lucas | well, my latin is a bit rusty | 10:16 |
| lucas | but something similar should work in latin :-) | 10:16 |
| dholbach | hihi | 10:17 |
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| jpatrick | dholbach: ping | 10:33 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: pong | 10:35 |
| jpatrick | dholbach: my package has been vetoed | 10:36 |
| JohnnyMast | what does vetoed mean ? | 10:36 |
| dholbach | by whom? where? | 10:36 |
| jpatrick | forbidden | 10:36 |
| jpatrick | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1277 | 10:36 |
| jpatrick | should be easy to fix.... | 10:37 |
| dholbach | yeah - i just thought that this was "just a debian package updated" | 10:37 |
| jpatrick | so did I | 10:38 |
| dholbach | however, i wondered, why you removed those makefile rules | 10:38 |
| jpatrick | I didn't | 10:38 |
| jpatrick | it was like that | 10:38 |
| dholbach | in the diff i saw that | 10:38 |
| jpatrick | not the first upload of it | 10:40 |
| dholbach | the one i checked yesterday anyways ;) | 10:40 |
| jpatrick | "(rules targets are not files)." <- what should I do about that? | 10:41 |
| JohnnyMast | thats just a sugestion i think, jpatrick i have it like you have as well | 10:42 |
| JohnnyMast | this is dh_make standard isnt it | 10:42 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: just look at the debian/rules from the original debian package | 10:42 |
| JohnnyMast | brb im gonna have a shower | 10:43 |
| jpatrick | dholbach: oh yeah it's there | 10:43 |
| jpatrick | must of missed it, oppss | 10:43 |
| dholbach | don't worry :) | 10:43 |
| jpatrick | reuploaded | 10:50 |
| jpatrick | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1280 | 10:50 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello | 11:21 |
| JohnnyMast | Gloubiboulga hi | 11:34 |
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| jpatrick | someone around to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1281 ? | 11:57 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: will do so | 11:58 |
| dholbach | after i reviewed lfittl's packages | 11:58 |
| jpatrick | dholbach: thank you very much | 11:58 |
| dholbach | de rien | 11:58 |
| === Nafallo ponders network-manager-{vpnc,openvpn} :-P | ||
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| MasterC | hi | 12:31 |
| MasterC | I have problems with banshee and libdbus | 12:31 |
| MasterC | it requires libdbus-1-1, but its not installable | 12:32 |
| MasterC | only libdbus1-2 is available | 12:32 |
| MasterC | is this the right channel? :) | 12:32 |
| MasterC | oh, I am using dapper | 12:32 |
| dholbach | if you like the adventure you could just try to rebuild it :) | 12:33 |
| dholbach | sudo apt-get build-dep banshee && sudo apt-get source -b banshee | 12:34 |
| dholbach | and see what happens ;) | 12:34 |
| MasterC | okay, lets go :D | 12:34 |
| dholbach | (it might want to have dpkg-dev first) | 12:34 |
| MasterC | build-dep are not okay :-/ | 12:35 |
| dholbach | what does it say? | 12:35 |
| MasterC | I only have the german message <g> | 12:36 |
| dholbach | fire away | 12:36 |
| MasterC | E: : Build-Abhngigkeit fr banshee konnte nicht erfllt werden. | 12:36 |
| dholbach | oh, seems like there's some meddling in debian/control involved as well | 12:36 |
| dholbach | the mono and media guys will hopefully poke at it soon | 12:36 |
| dholbach | you could have a look if there's a bug filed on malone already | 12:36 |
| MasterC | malone? | 12:37 |
| dholbach | http://launchpad.net/malone | 12:38 |
| dholbach | our bug tracker | 12:38 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: commented on it | 12:38 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: seems like you'll have to fix debian/rules or the upstream build system somehow | 12:38 |
| Nafallo | slomo_: ^ :-) | 12:38 |
| slomo_ | Nafallo: thanks :) | 12:39 |
| slomo_ | MasterC: i'll fix banshee later today... nothing to worry about :) | 12:39 |
| Nafallo | slomo_: you should hilight banshee ;-) | 12:39 |
| MasterC | this would be great :) | 12:39 |
| jpatrick | dholbach: what's the prob? | 12:39 |
| slomo_ | MasterC: i didn't want to fix it with the current version but wanted to wait for the new one which was released yesterday | 12:39 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: see my comments - seems it doesnt install anything into the package apart from documentation | 12:40 |
| MasterC | ah, okay | 12:40 |
| === Nafallo hilights dhcdbd,network-manager,screem ;-) | ||
| === dholbach highlights too much stuff ;) | ||
| jpatrick | dholbach: it should install a .desktop file | 12:40 |
| dholbach | Nafallo: including "transition" - that's the most useful hightlight to stay up to scratch ;) | 12:41 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: it doesnt install anything apart from documentation | 12:41 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: look at my comment | 12:42 |
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| slomo_ | hi dholbach :) | 12:42 |
| jpatrick | hmm.. | 12:42 |
| dholbach | hellas slomo_ | 12:42 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: hehe, I see those anyway when I care ;-) | 12:43 |
| dholbach | for the mono team: http://people.mmgsecurity.com/~lorenb/lat/releases/lat-0.8.1.tar.gz :) | 12:50 |
| StevenK | Is there anything else I can use to inspect a diff rather than less and diffstat? | 12:50 |
| StevenK | wine has a largish diff, and I don't want to read all 12,000 lines of it. | 12:51 |
| dholbach | if it's tremendously big, i usually do grep -E ^"\-\-\-\ " bla.diff to get an overview :) | 12:51 |
| StevenK | dholbach: That's what diffstat is for. :-) | 12:51 |
| === dholbach has a look at diffstat | ||
| dholbach | :) | 12:51 |
| jpatrick | dholbach: reuploaded | 12:52 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: will have a look | 12:52 |
| StevenK | The other problem is this diff touches a hell of a lot. :-/ | 12:52 |
| dholbach | just upload it and see what the users have to say | 12:52 |
| dholbach | :-p | 12:52 |
| dholbach | that's good for decision making too ;) | 12:52 |
| StevenK | reverted: | 12:53 |
| StevenK | --- wine-0.9/loader/wine.man.in | 12:53 |
| StevenK | +++ wine-0.9.orig/loader/wine.man.in | 12:53 |
| === jpatrick pulls out his pbuilder | ||
| === StevenK wonders what the reverted actually means. | ||
| === dholbach strokes his pbuilder | ||
| slomo_ | dholbach: xerxas wanted to package it but he has almost no time currently... and i'm currently packaging 3 other things ;) | 12:57 |
| dholbach | yeah, just as a heads up :) | 12:58 |
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| dholbach | i know you (and the community) love all the mono crack :) | 12:58 |
| slomo_ | well, currently i'm a bit pissed off by the ppc problems which seem to be a general buildd breakage... and everybody is on holidays now :/ | 12:59 |
| dholbach | :-/ | 01:00 |
| raphink | :( | 01:01 |
| === raphink just saw that he forgot about BugDay :( | ||
| jpatrick | dholbach: appears to work now :) | 01:04 |
| jpatrick | raphink: Riddell refused the pkg when it didn't have kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff | 01:05 |
| raphink | sure jpatrick | 01:05 |
| raphink | I don't say you shall not have it | 01:05 |
| raphink | I say you shall have a real diff | 01:05 |
| raphink | not the one Riddell made | 01:05 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: commented again | 01:05 |
| raphink | but the one that fits your own admin/cvs.sh | 01:06 |
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| jpatrick | this could be the final -> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1285 | 01:10 |
| dholbach | jpatrick: please ask some kde guys to check it - i clearly have no expertise there | 01:12 |
| lfittl | dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1284 | 01:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | raphink, do have think you could have a look at my packages? | 01:20 |
| raphink | I'm having a loko right now Gloubiboulga | 01:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | raphink, you're the best one ;) | 01:21 |
| raphink | du moins j'essaie | 01:21 |
| raphink | grer les conversations, le chroot et tout en meme temps c'est chaud | 01:21 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) d'o l'importance du multitache | 01:22 |
| raphink | le pb c'ets de savoir jusqu' quel point je suis multitache ;) | 01:22 |
| dholbach | raphink: quoi est chaud? | 01:22 |
| raphink | dholbach: c'est chaud, a veut dire que c'est( difficile | 01:22 |
| dholbach | ah cool, j'essaie de me souvenir de a ;) | 01:24 |
| raphink | :) | 01:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | dholbach, do you learn french ? | 01:24 |
| dholbach | Gloubiboulga: un petit peu seulement - mais j'ai dj lu Harry Potter 1-3 en franais :) | 01:25 |
| raphink | ouch | 01:25 |
| raphink | dholbach: pourquoi lire des livres amricains en franais ? | 01:25 |
| raphink | nous avons une littrature riche dans notre propre langue | 01:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | dholbach, ton fanais semble dj trs bon | 01:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | franais* | 01:26 |
| dholbach | raphink: parce que je sais le text :) | 01:26 |
| raphink | huhu | 01:26 |
| === raphink prfre lire Narnia que Harry Potter... mais c'est une question de choix | ||
| dholbach | Gloubiboulga: c'est parce que seb128 dit moi tous les erreurs je fait ;) | 01:26 |
| === StevenK is coming to the conclusion that the code changes in wine's merged debdiff can be ignored. | ||
| raphink | dholbach: c'est parceque seb128 _me signale toutes mes erreurs_ | 01:27 |
| dholbach | raphink: merci beaucoup :) | 01:28 |
| raphink | Gloubiboulga: fini de rgler mon chroot dapper ici, je builde ton paquet ;) | 01:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | danke raphink :) | 01:28 |
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| lfittl | dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1286 | 01:30 |
| dholbach | raphink: j'ai lu quelque livres de Balzac, mais en allemand :) | 01:30 |
| lucas | ah cool, on va pouvoir parler francais ici ! | 01:33 |
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| raphink | lucas: :) | 01:38 |
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| dholbach | lfittl: done | 01:40 |
| dholbach | les franais sont les seules gens qui just parlent leur propre langue :) | 01:41 |
| dholbach | est pas d'anglais :) | 01:41 |
| lfittl | dholbach: thanks :) | 01:42 |
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| dholbach | c'est comme a en #ubuntu-desktop aussi :) | 01:42 |
| lucas | dholbach: ah ah ;) | 01:43 |
| Yagisan | slomo, or siretart - are you around ? | 01:44 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: yes :) | 01:44 |
| siretart | Yagisan: yes :) | 01:44 |
| siretart | hi slomo_ :) - morning Yagisan | 01:44 |
| Yagisan | great! | 01:44 |
| Yagisan | siretart, slomo_ which of you is more familiar with transcode ? I want to see if you can reproduce some odd behaviour | 01:45 |
| siretart | I did the last upload, yes, but I dont use transcode that much | 01:46 |
| thierry | ogra : you told me my package didn't installed (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265) how do I know if it installs or not, and what do I do to fix it | 01:46 |
| thierry | ? | 01:46 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: me neither... the last time i used it was about 2 years ago ;) | 01:47 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: what behaviour? | 01:47 |
| Yagisan | siretart, slomo_: OK, on a 2GHz amd64 system (64bit mode), completely idle except for transcode, it starts transcoding dvds at 20fps | 01:47 |
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| Yagisan | but by the next morning it is only doing 0.3fps | 01:48 |
| Yagisan | with no other load on the system, and no changes to transcode | 01:48 |
| slomo_ | hm, reminds me of thoggen ;) | 01:48 |
| siretart | sounds strange | 01:48 |
| Yagisan | siretart, slomo: if you stop it and start it again, it goes back to full speed | 01:48 |
| slomo_ | hmm | 01:49 |
| Yagisan | siretart, slomo: It's odd, and annoying as my p2-300 does 1.5fps | 01:49 |
| raphink | rappelle moi pour libflu Gloubiboulga je dois y aller l | 01:49 |
| Yagisan | siretart, slomo: quick way to reproduce it is install dvdrip, set up a single system cluster, and encode a dvd overnight | 01:50 |
| siretart | raphink: a qui tu escrit? | 01:50 |
| raphink | siretart: Gloubiboulga ;) | 01:50 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I'll put that on my list, okay | 01:50 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: hm, please file a bug in malone about it | 01:51 |
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| Gloubiboulga | ok raphink merci pour jargon | 01:52 |
| Yagisan | sireatert: thanks, slomo_: sure, just wanted to see if either of the other MOTUmedia members I know had noticed it | 01:53 |
| === siretart has to train his french - we are going skiing in france in a week | ||
| siretart | ;) | 01:53 |
| dholbach | siretart: nice one | 01:54 |
| dholbach | two new packages for Universe (ok, they're in NEW first) ;) | 01:54 |
| Gloubiboulga | what is the process when a package has been advocated twice on REVU? | 01:55 |
| dholbach | Gloubiboulga: somebody uploads it :) | 01:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | no, really ? ;) | 01:56 |
| dholbach | every new binary packages has to be reviewed by our ftpmaster, so it's in NEW for a while | 01:56 |
| dholbach | then it hopefully biulds and hits the archive | 01:56 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 01:56 |
| dholbach | over christmas this should take a bit longer | 01:57 |
| dholbach | but usually it's done within 2-3 days | 01:57 |
| slomo_ | hm, let's file some ITP :) | 01:59 |
| dholbach | ttb and dvdstyler are up | 01:59 |
| pkern | elmo's on holidays, who's in charge currently? ;) | 02:00 |
| dholbach | nobody | 02:00 |
| dredg | anarchy! | 02:03 |
| pkern | heh ;) | 02:07 |
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| thierry | How can I test if my package install or not?? | 02:23 |
| pkern | piuparts perhaps ;) | 02:23 |
| slomo_ | or install them ;) | 02:28 |
| thierry | slomo_ : ogra says my package doesn't install but I get Unpacking libfxscintilla1.6 (from libfxscintilla1.6_1.63-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... | 02:29 |
| thierry | Setting up libfxscintilla1.6 (1.63-0ubuntu1) ... | 02:29 |
| thierry | thierry@modemcable050:~/dev$ | 02:29 |
| slomo_ | hmm... ask ogra :) | 02:30 |
| thierry | slomo_ : yeah but ogra not responding | 02:30 |
| thierry | slomo_ : the build logs and package is there http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265 | 02:31 |
| dholbach | slomo_, thierry: ogra said he'd be out for getting christmas presents for some 3h ago | 02:32 |
| lfittl | dholbach: did a small update on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1289 please advocate again :) | 02:32 |
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| raphink | dholbach: could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1255 please? | 02:35 |
| ogra | dholbach, no presents :) | 02:35 |
| raphink | or slomo_ maybe ;) | 02:35 |
| slomo_ | dholbach: can you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1290 ? :) | 02:35 |
| slomo_ | i'll take raphink's package then | 02:35 |
| dholbach | lfittl: done | 02:35 |
| ogra | dholbach, i only picked up my 12" ibook :) | 02:35 |
| raphink | thanks slomo_ :) | 02:35 |
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| dholbach | slomo_: righto | 02:36 |
| dholbach | ogra: i see | 02:36 |
| slomo_ | ogra: good choice :) | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | we have something on the wiki about dchroots? ;-) | 02:36 |
| raphink | yep Nafallo | 02:36 |
| ogra_ | slomo, i need a testing device for edubuntu ppc :) | 02:36 |
| raphink | Nafallo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | raphink: thanks :-) | 02:37 |
| ogra_ | but this osX chatsoftware is a bit odd | 02:37 |
| slomo_ | ogra_: do you have an airport extreme in there? :) | 02:37 |
| ogra_ | sadly, yes | 02:37 |
| slomo_ | ogra_: os x _is_ weird ;) | 02:37 |
| slomo_ | try the bcm43xx drivers... they should work without wep and with software wep (i.e. wpa supplicant magic) | 02:37 |
| ogra_ | i think it does some things right, but ubuntu feels lots better | 02:38 |
| ogra_ | hmm, this keyxboiard is cool | 02:38 |
| ogra_ | i just have to get used to it# | 02:38 |
| slomo_ | raphink: the removal of svn-commit.tmp didn't work... don't worry about it :) | 02:39 |
| ogra_ | slomo, thanks ! | 02:39 |
| raphink | slomo_: hmm ok | 02:39 |
| slomo_ | raphink: uh... perfect until now :) | 02:40 |
| raphink | :) | 02:40 |
| === slomo_ builds it | ||
| thierry | ogra_ : if you have a little bit of spare time while installing driver or something, could you explain me why my package (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265) doesn't install? I'm using cdbs, it should install no? | 02:40 |
| dholbach | ogra_: you still do typos, so it's nothing about the keyboard quality ;) | 02:41 |
| ogra_ | thierry, dholbach is the cdbs god in here | 02:41 |
| dholbach | is he? | 02:41 |
| ogra_ | dholbach, hey, i'm only using this thing since 10min | 02:41 |
| slomo_ | only as long as jbailey isn't in here :) | 02:41 |
| raphink | thierry: did you make sure the lib is built in debian/tmp? | 02:42 |
| thierry | dholbach : could you take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265 ? It doesn't install and I don't understand why | 02:42 |
| dholbach | thierry: right, will look | 02:42 |
| thierry | thanks | 02:42 |
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| dholbach | thierry_eating: missing build dep on libxt-dev | 02:50 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: i meant libxft-dev | 02:52 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: uh strange: libfox1.4-dev already depends on libxft-dev | 02:55 |
| slomo_ | raphink: hm, perfect :) | 02:56 |
| raphink | nothing is ever perfect slomo_ ;) | 02:56 |
| raphink | it can just get close to some standards ;) | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | I've just been looking at my stats on launchpad, and I've noticed I've been allocated karma. Does karma have a use ? | 02:58 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: seems it's a libxft-dev bug - they don't seem to ship a libXft.la | 02:58 |
| thierry_eating | dholbach : k... so do I add libxft-dev as deps anyway? could it solve the problem? | 02:59 |
| dholbach | it doesnt | 02:59 |
| dholbach | you should ping daniels | 02:59 |
| dholbach | libxft (2.1.8.2-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low | 02:59 |
| dholbach | * New upstream release. | 02:59 |
| dholbach | * Repackaged to fit all the other X packages. | 02:59 |
| dholbach | * Stop shipping libXft.la. | 02:59 |
| dholbach | -- Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@ubuntu.com> Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:13:31 +1100 | 02:59 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: and i don't see a workaround just yet, apart from fixing libxft | 03:00 |
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| dholbach | thierry_eating: sorry for not being of more assistance | 03:01 |
| thierry_eating | dholbach : big thanks anyway, otherwise I could have spent day trying to understand what I did wrong :) | 03:02 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: no, as i said, just write daniels a mail or file a bug on it | 03:02 |
| thierry_eating | dholbach : and what do I say to daniels? "You should restart shipping libXft.la? | 03:02 |
| thierry_eating | k | 03:03 |
| dholbach | i don't see the obvious reason for not shipping it | 03:03 |
| thierry_eating | k | 03:03 |
| thierry_eating | but then what do I tell him? | 03:03 |
| thierry_eating | ok ok sorry | 03:03 |
| Riddell | Yagisan: karma gets you girls | 03:04 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: just tell him, that your build fails without it | 03:04 |
| Riddell | dholbach, thierry_eating: what fails about it? | 03:04 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: you may even ask him to explain | 03:04 |
| Riddell | you probably just need to rebuild whatever library is still expecting libXft.la | 03:04 |
| dholbach | /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -W -Wall -DFOX -DSCI_LEXER -g -Wall -O2 -o test test.o -L/usr/local/lib ../src/libfxscintilla.la -lFOX-1.4 | 03:04 |
| dholbach | mkdir .libs | 03:04 |
| dholbach | libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la' | 03:04 |
| dholbach | make[2] : *** [test] Error 1 | 03:04 |
| dholbach | the file is simply not shipped with the package any more | 03:05 |
| slomo_ | FOX-1.4 most probably needs a rebuild | 03:05 |
| Yagisan | Riddell: That's great news, but my wife will be pissed to hear that. | 03:05 |
| Riddell | grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la shows libraries that still expect it and need rebuilt | 03:05 |
| Riddell | probably that FOX one needs rebuilt | 03:05 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: you could try that | 03:06 |
| thierry_eating | dholbach : rebuilding FOX-1.4 ? like just taking dapper source and do "sudo debuild" ? | 03:06 |
| raphink | Riddell: do you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1255 please? | 03:07 |
| Riddell | don't use sudo! use fakeroot! | 03:07 |
| raphink | hi by the way :) | 03:07 |
| Riddell | hi raphink, I'll try and find time in an hour | 03:07 |
| raphink | ok | 03:07 |
| dholbach | use PBUILDER | 03:07 |
| raphink | Riddell: it's a small package using cdbs | 03:07 |
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| raphink | so quite fast to review :) | 03:08 |
| Riddell | thierry_eating: yes (but you shouldn't need sudo) | 03:08 |
| thierry_eating | dholbach , ridell : ok, then what? I send the package to REVU? | 03:08 |
| raphink | slomo_: any time for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1000 aswell ? :) | 03:09 |
| dholbach | thierry_eating: just try it | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | thierry_eating: you're not really eating are you ;) | 03:09 |
| Riddell | thierry_eating: then you install the new FOX, tighten the build-dep of whatever you're actually trying to compile to require the new FOX and see if it works, if it does upload both to revu | 03:09 |
| slomo_ | raphink: remind me in 15 minutes please :) | 03:09 |
| raphink | slomo_: sure | 03:10 |
| thierry | Ridell : k, but what do you mean by " tighten the build-dep" ? | 03:10 |
| pkern | Why does packages.u.c show gobby 0.3.0-1ubuntu1 in dapper, but it's not on the mirrors? | 03:12 |
| dholbach | pkern: the packages or the source? | 03:12 |
| dholbach | thierry: in debian/control make sure that the build-depends are versioned high enough to enforce the newest version of fox | 03:12 |
| thierry | k | 03:13 |
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| pkern | dholbach: Hm ok they are. Probably just the changelogs lag behind. And the patches in scott's repository... Sorry. | 03:14 |
| dholbach | pkern: so it's christmas time for you already! :-) | 03:15 |
| pkern | dholbach: lol ;) | 03:16 |
| dholbach | raphink: why did you repackage the tarball? | 03:16 |
| dholbach | raphink: of austart | 03:16 |
| dholbach | raphink: of autostart | 03:16 |
| raphink | what do you mean? | 03:16 |
| pkern | Christmas time would be a backport to breezy or so ;) | 03:16 |
| pkern | Or a move of Gobby into Ubuntu main | 03:16 |
| pkern | :P | 03:17 |
| raphink | what do you mean dholbach ? | 03:17 |
| dholbach | raphink: the md5sums don't match | 03:17 |
| raphink | huh? | 03:17 |
| dholbach | pkern: talk to the backports team - if the build-depends of it are sufficient in breezy, they might consider it | 03:17 |
| dholbach | raphink: | 03:18 |
| dholbach | 46af2a8c7812199d9ff3c25b45581af8 autostart-0.1.tar.gz | 03:18 |
| dholbach | 7577f084033ca2db2387d99238697ea6 kcontrol-autostart_0.1.orig.tar.gz | 03:18 |
| raphink | hmm | 03:18 |
| raphink | I renamed the source folder | 03:18 |
| dholbach | just 'mv' it | 03:18 |
| dholbach | and you're fine | 03:18 |
| raphink | yes that's what I did | 03:18 |
| dholbach | pkern: ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:18 |
| dholbach | raphink: not the directory, but the .tar.gz | 03:18 |
| dholbach | so don't make a 'new .tar.gz' | 03:19 |
| raphink | dholbach: the directory needs to be named by $package-$version | 03:19 |
| dholbach | yeah | 03:19 |
| raphink | so I had to mv it | 03:19 |
| dholbach | that's right | 03:19 |
| raphink | hmm | 03:19 |
| raphink | oh ok | 03:19 |
| dholbach | i suppose you ran tar cfz afterwards | 03:19 |
| raphink | so I just extract the original tarball | 03:19 |
| raphink | then mv the folder | 03:19 |
| dholbach | yeah | 03:19 |
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| raphink | but keep it the way it is in the orig.tar.gz ? | 03:20 |
| dholbach | and mv the tarball, you should be fine then | 03:20 |
| dholbach | so mv autostart-0.1.tar.gz kcontrol-autostart_0.1.orig.tar.gz | 03:20 |
| raphink | so there source folder won't be named the same way in the debian package and in the orig.tar.gz ... | 03:20 |
| dholbach | dpkg-dev is clever enough to figure that out | 03:21 |
| raphink | ok | 03:21 |
| raphink | I'll do that | 03:21 |
| dholbach | the problem is: if you repackage the .tar.gz - the timestamp will suffice to get the md5sum different | 03:21 |
| dholbach | and that makes syncing from debian a pain | 03:21 |
| dholbach | we will alaways have different .tar.gz | 03:21 |
| Hieronymus | Is there a policy for version numbers from CVS? | 03:22 |
| raphink | ic | 03:22 |
| dholbach | that's why i hate meddling with .orig.tar.gz so much, no matter how many CVS/ or debian/ directories it contains | 03:22 |
| jpatrick | raphink: I want to hear what Riddell has to say about the kdepot.diff thingy | 03:22 |
| dholbach | Hieronymus: not really - just make sure, the next upstream version is bigger ;) | 03:22 |
| raphink | sure jpatrick | 03:22 |
| Hieronymus | I see 0.0+cvsYYYYMMDD but also 0.0.cvsYYYYMMDD | 03:22 |
| slomo_ | Hieronymus: no... but most people add a +cvsYYYYMMDD to the last version | 03:22 |
| dholbach | Hieronymus: how every you like it | 03:22 |
| raphink | jpatrick: I just say your patch _can't_ work | 03:22 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: what's the issue? | 03:23 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: last two comments at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1285 | 03:23 |
| dholbach | raphink: and btw: there's a new upstream version out | 03:23 |
| raphink | dholbach: really? | 03:23 |
| raphink | :s | 03:23 |
| jpatrick | raphink: I told you | 03:23 |
| dholbach | raphink: which you will have to repackage (it's tar.bz2) | 03:23 |
| raphink | good :) | 03:23 |
| dholbach | raphink: so apart from that, i'm fine | 03:23 |
| raphink | hehe | 03:24 |
| dholbach | raphink: package the 0.2 and we'll get it into NEW | 03:24 |
| raphink | argh | 03:24 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: does that patch apply? | 03:24 |
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| raphink | dholbach: I'll package new upstream version then | 03:24 |
| raphink | sure | 03:24 |
| dholbach | raphink: ROCK'N'ROLL | 03:24 |
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| jpatrick | Riddell: i debian/rules - yes | 03:24 |
| jpatrick | in* | 03:24 |
| Riddell | if it applies cleanly that's fine, if not that's broken | 03:25 |
| raphink | dholbach: as I'm retarballing the new upstream version, shall I rename the folder in it ? or shall I keep it as such and just create a tar.gz from the source? | 03:25 |
| zakame | evening all :) | 03:25 |
| raphink | Riddell: I'm surprised it applies cleanly, since the patch doesn't fit the file | 03:26 |
| zakame | raphink: make a note of it in debian/changelog | 03:26 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: would you mind giving me your opinion on #6003 and #6004. It's non-intrusive, but alas, I can't upload it. | 03:26 |
| raphink | zakame: good idea :) | 03:26 |
| slomo_ | malone bug 6003 | 03:26 |
| dholbach | raphink: doesn't matter, however you like it | 03:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug #6003: Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase. In: transcode (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Media Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/6003 | 03:26 |
| slomo_ | malone bug 6004 | 03:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug #6004: Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase. In: xvidcore (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Media Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/6004 | 03:26 |
| dholbach | raphink: dpkg-dev is clever enough to figure it out | 03:26 |
| raphink | oki | 03:27 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: i'll do them after merging and fixing avahi | 03:27 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: thanks, there were no regressions on the p2 box I have, and it should be fine for ppc | 03:27 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: I do wish it did speed up the old boxes, but I like any speed increase on the new ones too | 03:28 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: err... we don't want -fomit-frame-pointer... it makes debugging almost impossible on x86 at least... and in addition to -ffast-math it's probably better to use -fno-unsafe-math or how this switch was called | 03:30 |
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| jpatrick | raphink: I am so confused.... | 03:33 |
| Yagisan | slomo_, I'm aware of that, but that extra register on x86 is a speedup. Build it with 'noopt' for a debugging build | 03:33 |
| dholbach | lucas, siretart: going to upload motutools | 03:33 |
| raphink | jpatrick: i'm sorry about you being confused. I'd say you should listen to Riddell, although I still think the patch should match your file in particular. | 03:33 |
| raphink | ;) | 03:34 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: i know... did you measure the improvement? | 03:34 |
| lucas | dholbach: wait | 03:34 |
| lucas | I'll do that | 03:34 |
| jpatrick | raphink: I think the patch should add the lines when run in debian/rules | 03:34 |
| lucas | maybe I'll rename before | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: yes, from 4fps on a duron 850 to 6.5fps with the same source | 03:34 |
| dholbach | lucas: hm? | 03:34 |
| raphink | jpatrick: if you think so and Riddell is ok with it, that's fine... | 03:35 |
| lucas | seb128 proposed to generalize the approach to all debian derivates | 03:35 |
| lucas | instead of ubuntu-only | 03:35 |
| lucas | so the name might change to "multidistrotools" or sthing like that | 03:35 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: sounds nice... can you assign the bugs to me (slomo)? i'll do them later today or tomorrow then... but what do you think about the math stuff? | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: actually -mfpmath=sse would help those packages, but that doesn't work if you don't have an sse chip | 03:35 |
| dholbach | lucas: i think it's nothing wrong with having the 'origin' in the name, but as ever you like | 03:36 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: yes... -march=pentium4 would help too if you have a pentium4... ;) | 03:36 |
| lucas | I'll think about it during the holidays, so we can upload in early february | 03:36 |
| lucas | s/february/january | 03:36 |
| lucas | (that's why holidays are needed ;p) | 03:36 |
| dholbach | lucas: better be quick - i'm not sure what / how we do about UVF | 03:37 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: actually, after -march=i686 I didn't get an improvement on either the duron or my amd64 (in 32bit mode) | 03:37 |
| lucas | january 14th ? | 03:37 |
| dholbach | can somebody who understands something about licenses have a look at hugin? | 03:37 |
| zakame | hugin? | 03:37 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: I haven't seen any errors with -ffast-math enable either | 03:37 |
| Yagisan | s/enable/enabled | 03:37 |
| lucas | dholbach: seb128 also proposed to sponsor a debian upload if the name changes, so we can get it though a sync | 03:38 |
| raphink | huh | 03:38 |
| dholbach | lucas: fine with me too | 03:38 |
| lucas | if it's not ubuntu-specific, it might be better | 03:38 |
| raphink | Riddell: in kcontrol-autostart, admin/cvs.sh has been removed in new usptream version .... | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: but there may be corner cases where you might get a different result. i386 core has hand tuned assembler though | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: It's more of a win on amd64 which has less hand tuning (and maybe ppc as well) | 03:39 |
| raphink | dholbach: new upstream of autostart has been totally changed. It now uses python and scons. The package is _totally_ different. | 03:39 |
| raphink | :( | 03:40 |
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| jpatrick | raphink: hmm.... python.... | 03:41 |
| slomo_ | Yagisan: ok... i'll keep it in mind :) please assign these bugs to me | 03:41 |
| raphink | well the soft is cpp but some config files are in python | 03:42 |
| dholbach | raphink: you'd have to change that anyway soon :/ | 03:42 |
| raphink | I don't feel like working on it from scratch right now | 03:43 |
| raphink | if upstream plans to change that all again soon | 03:43 |
| raphink | i'll wait for a more stable version | 03:43 |
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| raphink | I don't want to package stuff that totally change by the week | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | slomo_: done. I look forward to testing -frename-registers on these packages when it is fixed in gcc | 03:44 |
| raphink | + autostart 0.2 doesn't build on my syste | 03:44 |
| raphink | system | 03:44 |
| esculapius | hi | 03:44 |
| esculapius | raphink | 03:44 |
| raphink | hi esculapius | 03:44 |
| zakame | yellow esculapius | 03:45 |
| esculapius | why yellow? | 03:45 |
| Yagisan | yeah + hello | 03:46 |
| esculapius | ahhhhhhhhhh | 03:46 |
| raphink | because it can be a nice colour | 03:46 |
| raphink | :) | 03:46 |
| esculapius | if you have a liver failure ;) | 03:46 |
| dholbach | raphink: even with scons and all the other crack installed? | 03:46 |
| raphink | yep | 03:46 |
| zakame | haha | 03:46 |
| dholbach | raphink: what does the build failure say? | 03:47 |
| Yagisan | I notice that is used a lot in b-grade movies that pop up a 2am as filler, usually said by some teenager before an accident | 03:47 |
| raphink | scons: *** Dependency cycle: autostart/doc/en/index.cache.bz2 -> autostart/doc/en/index.cache.bz2 -> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/autostart/index.cache.bz2 -> install | 03:47 |
| raphink | File "/usr/lib/scons/SCons/Taskmaster.py", line 292, in _find_next_ready_node | 03:47 |
| raphink | make: *** [install] Erreur 2 | 03:47 |
| esculapius | anyone knows how to change the decimal separator from comma to dot, not only for openoffice but for all the application that are running under linux? I mean Cross-Over dependent too. | 03:48 |
| dholbach | raphink: i'd whack upstream for that ;) | 03:48 |
| raphink | dholbach: I'll wait | 03:48 |
| raphink | ;) | 03:49 |
| dholbach | raphink: talk to them | 03:49 |
| dholbach | raphink: meanwhile we can get the 'old' version in | 03:49 |
| raphink | as it goes, they migth move to automake next week | 03:49 |
| raphink | and reprogram everything in ada in a month | 03:49 |
| jpatrick | raphink: rofl | 03:49 |
| raphink | sure dholbach | 03:49 |
| raphink | jpatrick: heh ;) | 03:50 |
| dholbach | raphink: you uploaded the 'fine' tarball? ;) | 03:50 |
| esculapius | anyone knows? | 03:50 |
| raphink | worst would be if they moved to fortran 77 | 03:50 |
| raphink | although I doubt so ;) | 03:50 |
| dholbach | raphink: i'll upload the package straightaway, if you do that | 03:50 |
| raphink | dholbach: nope, caues I began to work on 0.2 and failed | 03:50 |
| jpatrick | raphink: It'll be a problem because there are no Qt/KDE bindings for Ada/Fortran 77 | 03:50 |
| raphink | ok | 03:50 |
| raphink | then i'll just rename the tarball | 03:51 |
| raphink | yes jpatrick I know ;) | 03:51 |
| raphink | uploading the requested changes dholbach ... hopefully I didn't mess it up in the middle of it ... ;) | 03:53 |
| raphink | i'd check the debdiff to be sure | 03:53 |
| dholbach | raphink: hehe, we'll see | 03:53 |
| dholbach | (hope you rebuilt the source package ;)) | 03:53 |
| raphink | that's all I did | 03:53 |
| esculapius | anyone knows? | 03:53 |
| raphink | mv | 03:53 |
| raphink | esculapius: i'm not sure this is the right place to ask that though | 03:54 |
| raphink | this is a development chatroom, not really a user help one | 03:55 |
| esculapius | ok | 03:55 |
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| raphink | ask on #ubuntu rather | 03:55 |
| raphink | dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1292 | 03:56 |
| raphink | hop | 03:56 |
| raphink | same md5sum and debdiff void | 03:56 |
| raphink | I'll work on new upstream soon enough, but not right now | 03:56 |
| dholbach | raphink: uploaded | 03:59 |
| raphink | thanks :) | 03:59 |
| thierry | dholbach : how did you manage to get the dholbach libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la' | 03:59 |
| thierry | dholbach make[2] : *** [test] Error 1 error? | 03:59 |
| dholbach | thierry: i just built it in an uptodate dapper pbuilder | 04:00 |
| thierry | dholbach : you built libfox1.4 or libfxscintilla1.6 ? | 04:00 |
| dholbach | the latter | 04:00 |
| thierry | k... | 04:01 |
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| zakame | awww | 04:05 |
| Yagisan | dholbach's dog -> peoplewalk ;) | 04:06 |
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| thierry | I need to build with pbuilder a package that needs an other package I just built with pbuilder... how do I do that? | 04:26 |
| zakame | gn8 | 04:26 |
| thierry | forget it, it's ok | 04:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | Someone could give me a link to merge scripts (lpbugs & co) ? | 04:38 |
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| lucas | google for "motu-tools" | 04:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks lucas | 04:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | just found it | 04:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | (and I bookmarked the page, but didn't remembered it :/) | 04:51 |
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| lucas | merry christmas everybody | 04:57 |
| lucas | see you in 2006 | 04:57 |
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| bmonty | morning everyone | 05:22 |
| dholbach | hey bmonty :) | 05:23 |
| bmonty | hi dholbach | 05:24 |
| dholbach | how are you? | 05:25 |
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| slomo_ | re | 05:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | dholbach, could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1291 please ? | 05:30 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: i'll take a look :) | 05:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks slomo_ :) | 05:31 |
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| dholbach | Gloubiboulga: later | 05:35 |
| dholbach | Gloubiboulga: but i will do so | 05:35 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: hmm, better use english description :) | 05:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, yep, wasn't sure about the french description | 05:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | dholbach, thanks | 05:36 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: same for the manpage | 05:37 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: and it shows some weird chars in the author section of the manpage | 05:38 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, french accents are a real problem ;) | 05:39 |
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| slomo_ | german umlauts too ;) | 05:39 |
| Gloubiboulga | English is really great | 05:40 |
| dholbach | it's boooring :) | 05:40 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: "-Wl,-z,defs" <--- isn't this more for LDFLAGS? | 05:41 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: instead of mkdir you could put the dirs in debian/$packagename.dirs | 05:42 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: but you need to call dh_installdirs somewhere for that | 05:42 |
| slomo_ | Gloubiboulga: and instead of copying the files with cp everywhere you could use dh_install | 05:43 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo yep... | 05:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's my first package :) | 05:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | s/grap/grab | 05:43 |
| slomo_ | either by calling dh_install source destination or by using debian/$packagename.install files | 05:43 |
| slomo_ | np, it's better than my first package :) | 05:44 |
| slomo_ | why don't you use make install btw? | 05:46 |
| Gloubiboulga | To build 2 packages, but I can use $package.install files instead I guess | 05:46 |
| slomo_ | yes | 05:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'll do this | 05:47 |
| slomo_ | call make install and make sure that everything lands in... say... debian/tmp (debian/tmp/usr/bin, etc...) | 05:48 |
| slomo_ | then you have a debian/jargoninformatique.install file with one directory/file per line, relative to the top of the source tree | 05:48 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, thanks | 05:49 |
| slomo_ | for example you put debian/tmp/usr/bin in there | 05:49 |
| slomo_ | hmm... and you could look at man dh_install or other packages :) | 05:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, yes I know how it works now, I didn't when I built this package | 05:50 |
| slomo_ | oh ok :) | 05:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | but thanks anyway :) | 05:50 |
| slomo_ | notify me when you have the next version uploaded :) | 05:51 |
| slomo_ | any why do you rename the binary? | 05:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 05:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | because of the capital letters | 05:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | I had to look in /usr/bin to use the software when I installed it | 05:51 |
| slomo_ | hm... better make a link | 05:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 05:52 |
| slomo_ | abiword does the same for example :) | 05:52 |
| slomo_ | /usr/bin/abiword -> AbiWord-2.4 | 05:52 |
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| lfittl | slomo_: Do you have time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1282 ? | 06:04 |
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| thierry | dholbach : ok, the problem really was that libfox1.4 needed a rebuild... now, what do I do? doing "dch -i" and sending libfox1.4 to revu? | 06:24 |
| dholbach | yeah get some uploads under your belt | 06:25 |
| slomo_ | thierry: give me the changelog diff and i upload the rebuild for you :) | 06:25 |
| thierry | slomo_ : how do I get the diff and email or pastebin? | 06:27 |
| slomo_ | *shrug* whatever you like :) | 06:28 |
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| thierry | slomo_ : k what's your e-mail | 06:28 |
| slomo_ | slomo@ubuntu.com | 06:28 |
| thierry | slomo_ : sent | 06:31 |
| thierry | slomo_ : is it ok? | 06:33 |
| slomo_ | didn't arrive yet :) | 06:33 |
| slomo_ | yes, it's ok | 06:35 |
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| slomo_ | thierry: katie will talk to you soon :) | 06:38 |
| slomo_ | thierry: you should ask elmo to add your email address to katie's whitelist :) | 06:49 |
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| thierry | slomo_ : who's katie? | 06:53 |
| slomo_ | thierry: the script that pulls the uploads from incoming and puts then in NEW or somewhere for the buildds to pick up... and writes the mail to -changes | 06:54 |
| thierry | slomo_ : k thanks | 06:55 |
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| MasterC | hi | 07:46 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi MasterC | 07:52 |
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| Gloubiboulga | lintian doesn't like french guys... | 08:02 |
| slomo | Gloubiboulga: the manpage? | 08:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes, but I can't change it: spelling-error-in-description french French | 08:04 |
| Gloubiboulga | 'French' is used at the beginning of the description | 08:04 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo, sorry, it's not about the manpage... | 08:07 |
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| slomo | Gloubiboulga: oh... hmm, i would ignore this warning :) | 08:08 |
| tseng | hm do we auto sync NEW packages? | 08:09 |
| tseng | from debian | 08:09 |
| slomo | sometimes | 08:09 |
| slomo | ;) | 08:09 |
| tseng | lighttpd just went to unstable | 08:09 |
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| Gloubiboulga | slomo, the new package is on REVU (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1294) | 08:11 |
| raphink | oui en anglais c'est mieux | 08:12 |
| raphink | je suis d'accord | 08:13 |
| Gloubiboulga | j'hsitais, je n'hsite plus ;) | 08:13 |
| raphink | ta manire de consrever config.h est originale ;) | 08:15 |
| raphink | mais a doit fonctionner ;) | 08:15 |
| raphink | a fait un peu bricolage quoi | 08:15 |
| Gloubiboulga | raphink, comment faire autrement ? | 08:15 |
| raphink | tu pourrais le virer dans le clean | 08:15 |
| raphink | et le rgnrer dans le pre-build | 08:16 |
| raphink | ou dans le makebuilddir | 08:16 |
| raphink | sinon a me parait pas mal :) | 08:17 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) j'en ai appris des choses avec ce paquet... | 08:17 |
| raphink | je veux bien le croire ;) | 08:17 |
| raphink | aujourd'hui j'ai t embter les vendeurs PC City | 08:18 |
| raphink | savoir combien cotait un portable sans les logiciels ;) | 08:18 |
| Gloubiboulga | ils en font ? ou ils t'ont regard avec des gros yeux ? | 08:19 |
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| ogra_ibook | slomo, ping | 08:19 |
| raphink | Gloubiboulga: ben j'ai insist alors le type a appel le chef du magasin | 08:20 |
| raphink | et l | 08:20 |
| raphink | ben en fait le chef du magasin tait un linuxien! | 08:20 |
| raphink | et il m'a donn des adresses pour avoir un portable sur mesure, certifi compatible linux | 08:20 |
| slomo | ogra: pong | 08:20 |
| raphink | alors je pouvais difficilement lui gueuler dessus | 08:21 |
| ogra_ibook | slomo, any hint where to get the firmware ? | 08:21 |
| ogra_ibook | for bcm43xx that is | 08:21 |
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| slomo | ogra_ibook: yes... from your os x partition :) but i could send it to you... ogra@ubuntu.com ? | 08:21 |
| raphink | yop Tonio_ | 08:21 |
| ogra_ibook | slomo, gah, i just wiped osX | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | yop | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | fait chier je recois pas assez de spam............ | 08:22 |
| ogra_ibook | slomo, could you mail it ? | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | chier, chier chier | 08:22 |
| slomo | sure | 08:22 |
| ogra_ibook | thanks :) | 08:22 |
| raphink | Tonio_: keske tu as reu? | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: on kubuntu-fr, more appropriate :) | 08:22 |
| slomo | ogra_ibook: mail sent :) you need to get fwcutter from the bcm43xx homepage to extract the files from it | 08:24 |
| ogra_ibook | oki | 08:24 |
| ogra_ibook | thanks a lot :) | 08:24 |
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| slomo | np | 08:28 |
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| ogra_ | yay | 08:41 |
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| ogra_ | slomo, thanks again, works fine :) | 08:42 |
| slomo | ogra_: with or without wep? :) | 08:42 |
| ogra_ | my next neighbor lives out of range ;) i dont use any encryption out here | 08:43 |
| slomo | which version of the driver do you use? because latest svn doesn't work for me anymore :( | 08:44 |
| ogra_ | the one shipped with the kernel ... | 08:44 |
| ogra_ | 2.6.15-9-powerpc | 08:45 |
| slomo | hmm... what exactly do you do? ifconfig eth1 up && iwconfig eth1 essid foo? | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | nope | 08:46 |
| Amaranth | ogra_: you got it to work? | 08:46 |
| Amaranth | ogra_: I've got some instructions on the forums | 08:46 |
| Amaranth | but mine only stayed connected for about 2 minutes | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | i modprobe the driver, run sudo iwlis scan and sudo ifup eth1 | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | seems stable to me | 08:47 |
| Amaranth | you need to set the essid, don't you? | 08:47 |
| ogra_ | even at 54Mbit | 08:47 |
| ogra_ | i didnt | 08:47 |
| Amaranth | can i see your /etc/network/interfaces? | 08:47 |
| ogra_ | i got only iface eth1 inet dhcp in there | 08:48 |
| ogra_ | nothing special | 08:48 |
| Amaranth | I had to set the essid about 20 times until it associated, then setup a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, then ifup eth1, then add a nameserver to resolv.conf | 08:48 |
| Amaranth | then it worked for about 2 minutes | 08:48 |
| ogra_ | i have the luck to have no other wlans around, so the only possible essid is mine | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | only one here too | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | strange | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | that iwlist can find, anyway | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | do you have a linksys AP? | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | yup | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | odd | 08:49 |
| Amaranth | most people (me included) are having problems with linksys | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | but one with buit in dsl modem (which is disabled) and the original firmware | 08:50 |
| Amaranth | Linksys BEFW11S4 V4 | 08:51 |
| Amaranth | whatever that is | 08:51 |
| Amaranth | it's my neighbor's connection ;) | 08:51 |
| eruin | you just reminded me to enable some security on my linksys ap ;) | 08:52 |
| ogra_ | WAG54G here | 08:52 |
| Amaranth | it's a cable modem/AP | 08:54 |
| ogra_ | mine is a DSL modem/AP | 08:54 |
| dholbach | good night everybody - have a happy christmas and a good start into the next year | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | hmm, no /proc7acpi on powermac ... where do i get info about CPU temp etc ? | 08:55 |
| Amaranth | oh, no it's not | 08:55 |
| Amaranth | stupid google | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | apart from the small set of info in /proc/pmu ... | 08:55 |
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| lfittl | gn8 dholbach | 08:58 |
| ogra_ibook | ciao dholbach | 08:58 |
| slomo | ogra_ibook: you have to load therm_adt746x | 08:58 |
| siretart | slomo: pong :) | 08:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | salut dholbach joyeuses ftes | 08:59 |
| Amaranth | ogra_ibook: does usplash bail on you too? | 08:59 |
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| slomo | siretart: ping? ;) | 08:59 |
| Amaranth | ogra_ibook: and do you get errors about not being able to read/set the clock? | 08:59 |
| ogra_ibook | yup | 08:59 |
| siretart | slomo: you pinged be about 6 hours ago I think.. | 08:59 |
| raphink | slomo_: oops I forgot to remind you `in 15 minutes' some hours ago ;) | 08:59 |
| dholbach | thanks ogra, lfittl, merci Gloubiboulga | 08:59 |
| slomo | ogra, Amaranth: you need to load genrtc to solve the clock issue | 08:59 |
| raphink | gn dholbach :) | 09:00 |
| Amaranth | i'm not too interested in that | 09:00 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 09:00 |
| Amaranth | just wondering | 09:00 |
| raphink | bye dholbach :) | 09:00 |
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| raphink | slomo_: do you have some time now to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1000 ? | 09:01 |
| ogra_ibook | trying a reboot+ | 09:01 |
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| raphink | LOL | 09:01 |
| slomo | lol | 09:01 |
| slomo | sure | 09:01 |
| slomo | :) | 09:01 |
| raphink | :) | 09:01 |
| slomo | oh no... another kde package ;) | 09:02 |
| raphink | hehe | 09:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | lol | 09:03 |
| raphink | yes | 09:03 |
| raphink | it's the last one I have in stock | 09:03 |
| raphink | after that, I have to go to kde-apps and find more ;) | 09:03 |
| raphink | :) | 09:03 |
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| slomo | raphink: looks fine until now ;) | 09:09 |
| raphink | :) | 09:09 |
| slomo | your packages are boring :P everything is correct and working :( | 09:10 |
| raphink | hahaha | 09:11 |
| slomo | hm, when is the next tb meeting? :) | 09:11 |
| raphink | slomo well i wouldn't try to apply for MOTU if I had trashy packages ;) | 09:11 |
| raphink | hopefully | 09:11 |
| raphink | tb ? | 09:12 |
| slomo | technical board | 09:12 |
| raphink | ah ok | 09:12 |
| raphink | :) | 09:12 |
| raphink | I put myself on the CommunityCouncilAgenda again | 09:13 |
| raphink | I was told to wait 4 more weeks, so next time will be fine ;) | 09:13 |
| raphink | :) | 09:13 |
| raphink | will you be there slomo? | 09:14 |
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| slomo | what date is it? | 09:15 |
| raphink | hmmm the 3rd I guess | 09:15 |
| raphink | not sure | 09:15 |
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| slomo | raphink: FTBFS :P but probably not your fault: "libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la" | 09:29 |
| Burglaptop | slomo: I think that just got removed | 09:31 |
| slomo | yes | 09:31 |
| slomo | something needs a rebuild | 09:31 |
| slomo | to remove the reference to that file | 09:32 |
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| raphink | slomo: does that prevent from building? | 09:39 |
| slomo | yes | 09:40 |
| raphink | that's weird | 09:40 |
| raphink | it built on my machines | 09:40 |
| raphink | this is weird, libXft.la can't be found in any package | 09:42 |
| Burglaptop | raphink: it just got removed from dapper | 09:42 |
| Burglaptop | that last upload of libxft, daniel removed it | 09:43 |
| raphink | why? | 09:43 |
| Burglaptop | ask him | 09:43 |
| === siretart is going offline for today. cu tomorrow and merry christmas! | ||
| raphink | merry xmas siretart | 09:44 |
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| raphink | slomo : so it seems kalcul can't be built anymore on dapper ? | 09:45 |
| slomo | yes | 09:45 |
| slomo | raphink: update your pbuilder :) | 09:45 |
| raphink | is there are good reason for that? | 09:45 |
| Amaranth | so much for that | 09:46 |
| Amaranth | can't even get to the router anymore :/ | 09:46 |
| slomo | maybe one of the libraries you link to wants this file... should be solved by a rebuild | 09:46 |
| slomo | Amaranth: hehe, same for me :) | 09:46 |
| Amaranth | but the driver gets better on a daily basis | 09:47 |
| Amaranth | so hopefully by the time dapper is out it'll wokr | 09:47 |
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| raphink | slomo what do you want to do about kalcul? | 10:13 |
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| slomo | you could look at all libraries you link to and check if they need a rebuild to get rid of the libXft.la file | 10:14 |
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| raphink | hmm I'll do that later | 10:14 |
| raphink | I'll put it as acomment somewhere ;) | 10:15 |
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| raphink | hop | 10:16 |
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| raphink | added to my WikiPage for later work :) | 10:16 |
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| Kyral | hey LJ | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | Hi Kyral | 10:18 |
| raphink | hi Kyral | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: did EasyChem get through? | 10:19 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: no...because no one will give it another vote *HINT HINT* | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: well plotdrop got 2 votes but then ajmitch brought a small problem | 10:20 |
| Kyral | slomo: You have to vote on EasyChem again, I uploaded with a new email addy | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | But I'm at my inlaws right now and the dialup is killing me | 10:21 |
| Hieronymus | there's a list of build erros for universe packages, right? Where is it? | 10:21 |
| Hieronymus | *errors | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: does your @ubuntu.com email work? | 10:21 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: Yah I talked to elmo at the meeting. He said the problem is that the script that normally does it is dead ;P | 10:22 |
| Hieronymus | LaserJock: you work on ghemical, right? | 10:23 |
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| Hieronymus | it's broken on amd64 | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: oh, I sent him an email yesterday about that and the docteam repo access. I hope that I didn't bother him too much | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | Hieronymus: in dapper? | 10:23 |
| Hieronymus | LaserJock: yes | 10:23 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: in this case I mentioned it in the meeting and sabdfl told me to bug him :P | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | Hieronymus: how broken? | 10:24 |
| Hieronymus | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6082 | 10:25 |
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| Hieronymus | LaserJock: there's a libghemical0c2a | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but the deps should have been changed | 10:27 |
| Hieronymus | LaserJock: they have | 10:27 |
| Hieronymus | but for amd64 ghemical is still 1.90-2ubuntu1 | 10:28 |
| Hieronymus | and when I try to build it, I get errors | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah, looks like something happended there | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | Hieronymus: I'm not in much of a position to work on that until I get back from Christmas vactions | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | Hieronymus: I would try to get azeem (the debian maintainer who is here fairly often) to look at it or one of the MOTUs | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | Hieronymus: In any case you could file a bug report or at least see if there isn't one already | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | ok, gotta go. I might try to be on later | 10:34 |
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| Hieronymus | azeem: ping? | 10:35 |
| Seveas | !config channel Plugins.Bugtracker.snarfTarget malone | 10:48 |
| Ubugtu | The operation succeeded. | 10:48 |
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| Gloubiboulga | Merry christmas to all | 10:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | see you next week | 10:49 |
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| thierry | when does NEW packages comes into the dapper repository? | 10:54 |
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| raphink | thierry: when they are approved | 10:56 |
| raphink | imo | 10:56 |
| thierry | raphink : ok because I need libfox1.4 to get in (for my REVU package), it's just a rebuild and it has been sent this moring by ogra | 10:57 |
| raphink | mhm | 10:57 |
| thierry | raphink : any idea of someone who could approve it? | 10:57 |
| raphink | just wait | 10:57 |
| raphink | NEW queue is fast | 10:57 |
| raphink | not more than a few days | 10:57 |
| thierry | k... | 10:58 |
| thierry | ogra : have you sent the rebuild of libfox1.4 to NEW? (just to make sure) | 10:58 |
| slomo | thierry: i uploaded it iirc ;) | 10:59 |
| slomo | and it built fine everywhere | 10:59 |
| thierry | slomo : what's iirc? | 11:01 |
| slomo | if i recall/remember correctly | 11:01 |
| slomo | (apt-get install bsdgames && wtf iirc ) :) | 11:02 |
| thierry | slomo : ok, so in a couple of days, it should be in the dapper repository | 11:02 |
| thierry | right? | 11:02 |
| slomo | hmm no... it should be there now | 11:02 |
| thierry | slomo : ok, but does my changelog also been added or you just rebuilt it and uploaded? | 11:05 |
| slomo | i added your changelog... see dapper-changes | 11:06 |
| slomo | Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:40:09 +0000 (GMT) | 11:06 |
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| thierry | slomo : when I do apt-get source libfox1.4 in my dapper chroot, I only get Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:27:56 +0100 | 11:36 |
| thierry | strange.... | 11:36 |
| slomo | maybe the archives are broken... | 11:36 |
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| crimsun | 1.4.16-2ubuntu3 0 | 11:40 |
| crimsun | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages | 11:40 |
| crimsun | amd64, so the archive appears fine. | 11:40 |
| crimsun | corresponds to http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/f/fox1.4/1.4.16-2ubuntu3/ , too. | 11:40 |
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| derekS | hey motu's... i just saw something kinda cool you might wanna consider packaging: http://gnickr.sourceforge.net | 11:43 |
| crimsun | put it on wiki/UniverseCandidates | 11:43 |
| derekS | or its already packaged... adding | 11:43 |
| derekS | ok | 11:43 |
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| thierry | slomo, crimsun : I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com ... maybe that's not there yet... | 11:54 |
| bmonty | hi all | 11:54 |
| bmonty | thierry: its been my experience that us.archive.ubuntu.com has lots of issues | 11:54 |
| thierry | bmonty : k thanks, going to change my repos of apt for my chroot :) | 11:57 |
| bmonty | thierry: I've found that solves lots of problems :) | 11:57 |
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