=== lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d123058.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d123058.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481C033.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ilmari [i=ilmari@ritchie.ping.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] where do I report bugs agains universe packages not listed in bugzilla or launchpad? [12:25] s/agains/against/ [12:25] ilmari: ask for their source names to be added. /join #launchpad [12:25] ilmari: then file the bug per usual [12:26] granted, most people are probably on holiday [12:26] oh, it's been added snice last I checked [12:26] (dhcdbd) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] hi crimsun_, may I bug you to upload the scim-* rebuilds for me? [12:37] crimsun_: or if you are busy, I'm going to try asking other MOTUs [12:37] minghua: sure, which #s? === ilmari [i=ilmari@ritchie.ping.uio.no] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:39] crimsun_: 5893, 5894, 5895, thanks [12:40] crimsun_: if you remember I said something about a bug for scim-uim, it is actually in uim, so scim-uim can be uploaded [12:40] ok. [12:41] sec. === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-243-228-54.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-064-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo_ [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] minghua: is it intentional that #5895 has the debdiff for scim-chewing attached? [12:48] crimsun_: no. apparently I screwed up :-( [12:49] crimsun_: can you generate the rebuild yourself, or you want to wait for my new debdiff? [12:49] crimsun_: I really tested it, I just pasted the wrong debdiff [12:50] minghua: I'll do it [12:50] crimsun_: thanks! === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-203-76-59.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] I'm off to bed now... gn8 everyone [01:08] night sistpoty === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-167-98.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a228.otenet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Psoriasis [n=Psoriasi@onlymeok.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] I have a free software project here: www.freshmeat.net/projects/idjc that I would like you to consider for inclusion in the ubuntu distibution. Thanks. [01:48] wiki/UniverseCandidates. [01:50] Thanks. [01:52] thats a really unpleasant irc name btw. [01:52] especially in the morning while eathing breakfast === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Fui] [02:06] vlc ftbfs due to mozilla not having been updated to cope with the firefox-dev New World Order [02:07] this touches any package [!amd64] that b-ds on mozilla-dev [02:09] crimsun_: you uploaded a new VLC today right? [02:09] yes, but it ftbfs due to the issue I just stated. [02:09] I'd fix it, but I don't have main upload privs. [02:10] it has another problem [02:10] what has what? [02:10] VLC [02:10] The following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc: Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.50) but it is not installable [02:10] that's not the underlying issue. [02:10] oh [02:11] Sorry then [02:11] a rebuild against the new dbus-transitioned libhal-dev would fix that, which is the entire reason I kicked it [02:11] ah [02:11] however, it's the mozilla-dev screwage that's causing it to ftbfs [02:11] ah === Kyral goes to watch Bleach with XINE === Psoriasis [n=Psoriasi@onlymeok.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc6-hem14-6-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@cpe-24-59-34-66.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] heylo [03:17] hey zul === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] apt-proxy stores the cached packages at /var/cache/apt-proxy, right? (my /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf says so) [04:51] hi [04:51] can someone unarchive libiptcdata? [04:51] it hasn't been uploaded === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106001217cbd164.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] do you guys need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition anymore? [05:54] no. [05:55] we can probably make a Transitions hierarchy and stuff the info there [05:55] page is dead [05:55] do you want the information off of it? [05:55] not necessary [05:55] ok [05:58] any apt-proxy user here? [05:58] apt-proxy works fine for me, I'm just very curious where does it store the cached packages [05:59] Burglaptop: question. did you order large quantity of ubuntu cds? [06:02] hub_: nope, why? [06:02] 'cause I get request a few buck of GST and $25 of fskcing broker fee [06:02] extorsion [06:03] so I was wondering what was others people situation [06:03] hub_: my brother didn't get that [06:04] I get them end of october. received the bill yesterday === zakame [n=zak@210.14.16.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] minghua: /var/cache/apt-proxu [06:17] Er, apt-proxy [06:19] StevenK: yeah, I thought so too (according to man page), but my /var/cache/apt-proxy is empty [06:19] but my download is still cached [06:19] which makes me even more curious [06:27] er are we in UVF now? [06:27] I didn't think that was until next year? === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] zakame: not yet [06:28] Burglaptop: cool, I got confused then, with what's in DeveloperResources [06:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [06:29] January 19th [06:30] ooh k [06:32] Hmm, no after a reboot I lost my apt-proxy cache [06:32] something is wrong here === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:48] oh wow, now that quod libet 0.16 supports mp4 and mpc, I have no reason to use rhythmbox at all [06:48] rocking, I was looking for an alt as well [06:50] okay, found the problem: exceptions.OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/cache/apt-proxy/debian' === prabu^ [n=prabu@219.95.161.73] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] Hello al [07:14] i created the ptlink ircd package [07:27] yes? [07:28] erm [07:28] wait it dont work :S [07:28] dh_installdocs [07:28] cp: cannot stat `ChangeLog:': No such file or directory [07:28] i get that :S [07:28] hm is libbonobomm1.3 not depending on libgtkmm2.0-1c2a yet? [07:30] not yet. [07:30] waah, I couldn't build libbonobouimm1.3 ... [07:30] prabu^: is it listed in .docs or something? [07:31] ah yea === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] whoa libbonobomm1.3's in MoM, but not listed in sistpoty's === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-9-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] just ask him to refresh later. [07:33] I better take that pkg too :) [07:42] aha [07:42] done [07:42] so where do i submit the package for testing,etc ? [07:43] REVU. [07:44] i register by joining the list correct ? [07:44] there are instructions on the REVU page === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frans-th [n=frans-th@202.73.108.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d123058.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frans-th [n=frans-th@202.73.108.136] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] hi [08:33] hi === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] slomo ? === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-67-223.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A66EAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] hellas motu wannabes and motus [10:15] hellas dholbach [10:16] woohoo, another greek in here ;-) [10:16] (hellas others too) [10:16] well, my latin is a bit rusty [10:16] but something similar should work in latin :-) [10:17] hihi === doluu [n=duluu@202.179.3.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@n219076183029.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@10.Red-81-36-90.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] dholbach: ping [10:35] jpatrick: pong [10:36] dholbach: my package has been vetoed [10:36] what does vetoed mean ? [10:36] by whom? where? [10:36] forbidden [10:36] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1277 [10:37] should be easy to fix.... [10:37] yeah - i just thought that this was "just a debian package updated" [10:38] so did I [10:38] however, i wondered, why you removed those makefile rules [10:38] I didn't [10:38] it was like that [10:38] in the diff i saw that [10:40] not the first upload of it [10:40] the one i checked yesterday anyways ;) [10:41] "(rules targets are not files)." <- what should I do about that? [10:42] thats just a sugestion i think, jpatrick i have it like you have as well [10:42] this is dh_make standard isnt it [10:42] jpatrick: just look at the debian/rules from the original debian package [10:43] brb im gonna have a shower [10:43] dholbach: oh yeah it's there [10:43] must of missed it, oppss [10:43] don't worry :) [10:50] reuploaded [10:50] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1280 === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.68.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] hello [11:34] Gloubiboulga hi === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-70-16-64-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] someone around to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1281 ? [11:58] jpatrick: will do so [11:58] after i reviewed lfittl's packages [11:58] dholbach: thank you very much [11:58] de rien === Nafallo ponders network-manager-{vpnc,openvpn} :-P === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-209-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] hi [12:31] I have problems with banshee and libdbus [12:32] it requires libdbus-1-1, but its not installable [12:32] only libdbus1-2 is available [12:32] is this the right channel? :) [12:32] oh, I am using dapper [12:33] if you like the adventure you could just try to rebuild it :) [12:34] sudo apt-get build-dep banshee && sudo apt-get source -b banshee [12:34] and see what happens ;) [12:34] okay, lets go :D [12:34] (it might want to have dpkg-dev first) [12:35] build-dep are not okay :-/ [12:35] what does it say? [12:36] I only have the german message [12:36] fire away [12:36] E: : Build-Abhngigkeit fr banshee konnte nicht erfllt werden. [12:36] oh, seems like there's some meddling in debian/control involved as well [12:36] the mono and media guys will hopefully poke at it soon [12:36] you could have a look if there's a bug filed on malone already [12:37] malone? [12:38] http://launchpad.net/malone [12:38] our bug tracker [12:38] jpatrick: commented on it [12:38] jpatrick: seems like you'll have to fix debian/rules or the upstream build system somehow [12:38] slomo_: ^ :-) [12:39] Nafallo: thanks :) [12:39] MasterC: i'll fix banshee later today... nothing to worry about :) [12:39] slomo_: you should hilight banshee ;-) [12:39] this would be great :) [12:39] dholbach: what's the prob? [12:39] MasterC: i didn't want to fix it with the current version but wanted to wait for the new one which was released yesterday [12:40] jpatrick: see my comments - seems it doesnt install anything into the package apart from documentation [12:40] ah, okay === Nafallo hilights dhcdbd,network-manager,screem ;-) === dholbach highlights too much stuff ;) [12:40] dholbach: it should install a .desktop file [12:41] Nafallo: including "transition" - that's the most useful hightlight to stay up to scratch ;) [12:41] jpatrick: it doesnt install anything apart from documentation [12:42] jpatrick: look at my comment === doluu [n=duluu@202.179.3.210] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:42] hi dholbach :) [12:42] hmm.. [12:42] hellas slomo_ [12:43] dholbach: hehe, I see those anyway when I care ;-) [12:50] for the mono team: http://people.mmgsecurity.com/~lorenb/lat/releases/lat-0.8.1.tar.gz :) [12:50] Is there anything else I can use to inspect a diff rather than less and diffstat? [12:51] wine has a largish diff, and I don't want to read all 12,000 lines of it. [12:51] if it's tremendously big, i usually do grep -E ^"\-\-\-\ " bla.diff to get an overview :) [12:51] dholbach: That's what diffstat is for. :-) === dholbach has a look at diffstat [12:51] :) [12:52] dholbach: reuploaded [12:52] jpatrick: will have a look [12:52] The other problem is this diff touches a hell of a lot. :-/ [12:52] just upload it and see what the users have to say [12:52] :-p [12:52] that's good for decision making too ;) [12:53] reverted: [12:53] --- wine-0.9/loader/wine.man.in [12:53] +++ wine-0.9.orig/loader/wine.man.in === jpatrick pulls out his pbuilder === StevenK wonders what the reverted actually means. === dholbach strokes his pbuilder [12:57] dholbach: xerxas wanted to package it but he has almost no time currently... and i'm currently packaging 3 other things ;) [12:58] yeah, just as a heads up :) === markuman [n=supermar@p50926201.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] i know you (and the community) love all the mono crack :) [12:59] well, currently i'm a bit pissed off by the ppc problems which seem to be a general buildd breakage... and everybody is on holidays now :/ [01:00] :-/ [01:01] :( === raphink just saw that he forgot about BugDay :( [01:04] dholbach: appears to work now :) [01:05] raphink: Riddell refused the pkg when it didn't have kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff [01:05] sure jpatrick [01:05] I don't say you shall not have it [01:05] I say you shall have a real diff [01:05] not the one Riddell made [01:05] jpatrick: commented again [01:06] but the one that fits your own admin/cvs.sh === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] this could be the final -> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1285 [01:12] jpatrick: please ask some kde guys to check it - i clearly have no expertise there [01:19] dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1284 [01:20] raphink, do have think you could have a look at my packages? [01:20] I'm having a loko right now Gloubiboulga [01:21] raphink, you're the best one ;) [01:21] du moins j'essaie [01:21] grer les conversations, le chroot et tout en meme temps c'est chaud [01:22] :) d'o l'importance du multitache [01:22] le pb c'ets de savoir jusqu' quel point je suis multitache ;) [01:22] raphink: quoi est chaud? [01:22] dholbach: c'est chaud, a veut dire que c'est( difficile [01:24] ah cool, j'essaie de me souvenir de a ;) [01:24] :) [01:24] dholbach, do you learn french ? [01:25] Gloubiboulga: un petit peu seulement - mais j'ai dj lu Harry Potter 1-3 en franais :) [01:25] ouch [01:25] dholbach: pourquoi lire des livres amricains en franais ? [01:25] nous avons une littrature riche dans notre propre langue [01:26] dholbach, ton fanais semble dj trs bon [01:26] franais* [01:26] raphink: parce que je sais le text :) [01:26] huhu === raphink prfre lire Narnia que Harry Potter... mais c'est une question de choix [01:26] Gloubiboulga: c'est parce que seb128 dit moi tous les erreurs je fait ;) === StevenK is coming to the conclusion that the code changes in wine's merged debdiff can be ignored. [01:27] dholbach: c'est parceque seb128 _me signale toutes mes erreurs_ [01:28] raphink: merci beaucoup :) [01:28] Gloubiboulga: fini de rgler mon chroot dapper ici, je builde ton paquet ;) [01:28] danke raphink :) === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1286 [01:30] raphink: j'ai lu quelque livres de Balzac, mais en allemand :) [01:33] ah cool, on va pouvoir parler francais ici ! === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d123058.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] lucas: :) === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable084.72-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] lfittl: done [01:41] les franais sont les seules gens qui just parlent leur propre langue :) [01:41] est pas d'anglais :) [01:42] dholbach: thanks :) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-17-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] c'est comme a en #ubuntu-desktop aussi :) [01:43] dholbach: ah ah ;) [01:44] slomo, or siretart - are you around ? [01:44] Yagisan: yes :) [01:44] Yagisan: yes :) [01:44] hi slomo_ :) - morning Yagisan [01:44] great! [01:45] siretart, slomo_ which of you is more familiar with transcode ? I want to see if you can reproduce some odd behaviour [01:46] I did the last upload, yes, but I dont use transcode that much [01:46] ogra : you told me my package didn't installed (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265) how do I know if it installs or not, and what do I do to fix it [01:46] ? [01:47] Yagisan: me neither... the last time i used it was about 2 years ago ;) [01:47] Yagisan: what behaviour? [01:47] siretart, slomo_: OK, on a 2GHz amd64 system (64bit mode), completely idle except for transcode, it starts transcoding dvds at 20fps === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] but by the next morning it is only doing 0.3fps [01:48] with no other load on the system, and no changes to transcode [01:48] hm, reminds me of thoggen ;) [01:48] sounds strange [01:48] siretart, slomo: if you stop it and start it again, it goes back to full speed [01:49] hmm [01:49] siretart, slomo: It's odd, and annoying as my p2-300 does 1.5fps [01:49] rappelle moi pour libflu Gloubiboulga je dois y aller l [01:50] siretart, slomo: quick way to reproduce it is install dvdrip, set up a single system cluster, and encode a dvd overnight [01:50] raphink: a qui tu escrit? [01:50] siretart: Gloubiboulga ;) [01:50] Yagisan: I'll put that on my list, okay [01:51] Yagisan: hm, please file a bug in malone about it === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a064.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] ok raphink merci pour jargon [01:53] sireatert: thanks, slomo_: sure, just wanted to see if either of the other MOTUmedia members I know had noticed it === siretart has to train his french - we are going skiing in france in a week [01:53] ;) [01:54] siretart: nice one [01:54] two new packages for Universe (ok, they're in NEW first) ;) [01:55] what is the process when a package has been advocated twice on REVU? [01:55] Gloubiboulga: somebody uploads it :) [01:56] no, really ? ;) [01:56] every new binary packages has to be reviewed by our ftpmaster, so it's in NEW for a while [01:56] then it hopefully biulds and hits the archive [01:56] ok [01:57] over christmas this should take a bit longer [01:57] but usually it's done within 2-3 days [01:59] hm, let's file some ITP :) [01:59] ttb and dvdstyler are up [02:00] elmo's on holidays, who's in charge currently? ;) [02:00] nobody [02:03] anarchy! [02:07] heh ;) === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a064.otenet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] How can I test if my package install or not?? [02:23] piuparts perhaps ;) [02:28] or install them ;) [02:29] slomo_ : ogra says my package doesn't install but I get Unpacking libfxscintilla1.6 (from libfxscintilla1.6_1.63-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... [02:29] Setting up libfxscintilla1.6 (1.63-0ubuntu1) ... [02:29] thierry@modemcable050:~/dev$ [02:30] hmm... ask ogra :) [02:30] slomo_ : yeah but ogra not responding [02:31] slomo_ : the build logs and package is there http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265 [02:32] slomo_, thierry: ogra said he'd be out for getting christmas presents for some 3h ago [02:32] dholbach: did a small update on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1289 please advocate again :) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] dholbach: could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1255 please? [02:35] dholbach, no presents :) [02:35] or slomo_ maybe ;) [02:35] dholbach: can you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1290 ? :) [02:35] i'll take raphink's package then [02:35] lfittl: done [02:35] dholbach, i only picked up my 12" ibook :) [02:35] thanks slomo_ :) === ogra_ [n=olivergr@p5089FC40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] slomo_: righto [02:36] ogra: i see [02:36] ogra: good choice :) [02:36] we have something on the wiki about dchroots? ;-) [02:36] yep Nafallo [02:36] slomo, i need a testing device for edubuntu ppc :) [02:36] Nafallo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [02:37] raphink: thanks :-) [02:37] but this osX chatsoftware is a bit odd [02:37] ogra_: do you have an airport extreme in there? :) [02:37] sadly, yes [02:37] ogra_: os x _is_ weird ;) [02:37] try the bcm43xx drivers... they should work without wep and with software wep (i.e. wpa supplicant magic) [02:38] i think it does some things right, but ubuntu feels lots better [02:38] hmm, this keyxboiard is cool [02:38] i just have to get used to it# [02:39] raphink: the removal of svn-commit.tmp didn't work... don't worry about it :) [02:39] slomo, thanks ! [02:39] slomo_: hmm ok [02:40] raphink: uh... perfect until now :) [02:40] :) === slomo_ builds it [02:40] ogra_ : if you have a little bit of spare time while installing driver or something, could you explain me why my package (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265) doesn't install? I'm using cdbs, it should install no? [02:41] ogra_: you still do typos, so it's nothing about the keyboard quality ;) [02:41] thierry, dholbach is the cdbs god in here [02:41] is he? [02:41] dholbach, hey, i'm only using this thing since 10min [02:41] only as long as jbailey isn't in here :) [02:42] thierry: did you make sure the lib is built in debian/tmp? [02:42] dholbach : could you take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1265 ? It doesn't install and I don't understand why [02:42] thierry: right, will look [02:42] thanks === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] thierry_eating: missing build dep on libxt-dev [02:52] thierry_eating: i meant libxft-dev [02:55] thierry_eating: uh strange: libfox1.4-dev already depends on libxft-dev [02:56] raphink: hm, perfect :) [02:56] nothing is ever perfect slomo_ ;) [02:57] it can just get close to some standards ;) [02:58] I've just been looking at my stats on launchpad, and I've noticed I've been allocated karma. Does karma have a use ? [02:58] thierry_eating: seems it's a libxft-dev bug - they don't seem to ship a libXft.la [02:59] dholbach : k... so do I add libxft-dev as deps anyway? could it solve the problem? [02:59] it doesnt [02:59] you should ping daniels [02:59] libxft (2.1.8.2-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low [02:59] * New upstream release. [02:59] * Repackaged to fit all the other X packages. [02:59] * Stop shipping libXft.la. [02:59] -- Daniel Stone Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:13:31 +1100 [03:00] thierry_eating: and i don't see a workaround just yet, apart from fixing libxft === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] thierry_eating: sorry for not being of more assistance [03:02] dholbach : big thanks anyway, otherwise I could have spent day trying to understand what I did wrong :) [03:02] thierry_eating: no, as i said, just write daniels a mail or file a bug on it [03:02] dholbach : and what do I say to daniels? "You should restart shipping libXft.la? [03:03] k [03:03] i don't see the obvious reason for not shipping it [03:03] k [03:03] but then what do I tell him? [03:03] ok ok sorry [03:04] Yagisan: karma gets you girls [03:04] thierry_eating: just tell him, that your build fails without it [03:04] dholbach, thierry_eating: what fails about it? [03:04] thierry_eating: you may even ask him to explain [03:04] you probably just need to rebuild whatever library is still expecting libXft.la [03:04] /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -W -Wall -DFOX -DSCI_LEXER -g -Wall -O2 -o test test.o -L/usr/local/lib ../src/libfxscintilla.la -lFOX-1.4 [03:04] mkdir .libs [03:04] libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la' [03:04] make[2] : *** [test] Error 1 [03:05] the file is simply not shipped with the package any more [03:05] FOX-1.4 most probably needs a rebuild [03:05] Riddell: That's great news, but my wife will be pissed to hear that. [03:05] grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la shows libraries that still expect it and need rebuilt [03:05] probably that FOX one needs rebuilt [03:06] thierry_eating: you could try that [03:06] dholbach : rebuilding FOX-1.4 ? like just taking dapper source and do "sudo debuild" ? [03:07] Riddell: do you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1255 please? [03:07] don't use sudo! use fakeroot! [03:07] hi by the way :) [03:07] hi raphink, I'll try and find time in an hour [03:07] ok [03:07] use PBUILDER [03:07] Riddell: it's a small package using cdbs === dholbach collects some crack pipes in here [03:08] so quite fast to review :) [03:08] thierry_eating: yes (but you shouldn't need sudo) [03:08] dholbach , ridell : ok, then what? I send the package to REVU? [03:09] slomo_: any time for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1000 aswell ? :) [03:09] thierry_eating: just try it [03:09] thierry_eating: you're not really eating are you ;) [03:09] thierry_eating: then you install the new FOX, tighten the build-dep of whatever you're actually trying to compile to require the new FOX and see if it works, if it does upload both to revu [03:09] raphink: remind me in 15 minutes please :) [03:10] slomo_: sure [03:10] Ridell : k, but what do you mean by " tighten the build-dep" ? [03:12] Why does packages.u.c show gobby 0.3.0-1ubuntu1 in dapper, but it's not on the mirrors? [03:12] pkern: the packages or the source? [03:12] thierry: in debian/control make sure that the build-depends are versioned high enough to enforce the newest version of fox [03:13] k === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@p54836B84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] dholbach: Hm ok they are. Probably just the changelogs lag behind. And the patches in scott's repository... Sorry. [03:15] pkern: so it's christmas time for you already! :-) [03:16] dholbach: lol ;) [03:16] raphink: why did you repackage the tarball? [03:16] raphink: of austart [03:16] raphink: of autostart [03:16] what do you mean? [03:16] Christmas time would be a backport to breezy or so ;) [03:16] Or a move of Gobby into Ubuntu main [03:17] :P [03:17] what do you mean dholbach ? [03:17] raphink: the md5sums don't match [03:17] huh? [03:17] pkern: talk to the backports team - if the build-depends of it are sufficient in breezy, they might consider it [03:18] raphink: [03:18] 46af2a8c7812199d9ff3c25b45581af8 autostart-0.1.tar.gz [03:18] 7577f084033ca2db2387d99238697ea6 kcontrol-autostart_0.1.orig.tar.gz [03:18] hmm [03:18] I renamed the source folder [03:18] just 'mv' it [03:18] and you're fine [03:18] yes that's what I did [03:18] pkern: ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com [03:18] raphink: not the directory, but the .tar.gz [03:19] so don't make a 'new .tar.gz' [03:19] dholbach: the directory needs to be named by $package-$version [03:19] yeah [03:19] so I had to mv it [03:19] that's right [03:19] hmm [03:19] oh ok [03:19] i suppose you ran tar cfz afterwards [03:19] so I just extract the original tarball [03:19] then mv the folder [03:19] yeah === jpatrick [n=patrick@7.Red-83-45-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] but keep it the way it is in the orig.tar.gz ? [03:20] and mv the tarball, you should be fine then [03:20] so mv autostart-0.1.tar.gz kcontrol-autostart_0.1.orig.tar.gz [03:20] so there source folder won't be named the same way in the debian package and in the orig.tar.gz ... [03:21] dpkg-dev is clever enough to figure that out [03:21] ok [03:21] I'll do that [03:21] the problem is: if you repackage the .tar.gz - the timestamp will suffice to get the md5sum different [03:21] and that makes syncing from debian a pain [03:21] we will alaways have different .tar.gz [03:22] Is there a policy for version numbers from CVS? [03:22] ic [03:22] that's why i hate meddling with .orig.tar.gz so much, no matter how many CVS/ or debian/ directories it contains [03:22] raphink: I want to hear what Riddell has to say about the kdepot.diff thingy [03:22] Hieronymus: not really - just make sure, the next upstream version is bigger ;) [03:22] sure jpatrick [03:22] I see 0.0+cvsYYYYMMDD but also 0.0.cvsYYYYMMDD [03:22] Hieronymus: no... but most people add a +cvsYYYYMMDD to the last version [03:22] Hieronymus: how every you like it [03:22] jpatrick: I just say your patch _can't_ work [03:23] jpatrick: what's the issue? [03:23] Riddell: last two comments at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1285 [03:23] raphink: and btw: there's a new upstream version out [03:23] dholbach: really? [03:23] :s [03:23] raphink: I told you [03:23] raphink: which you will have to repackage (it's tar.bz2) [03:23] good :) [03:23] raphink: so apart from that, i'm fine [03:24] hehe [03:24] raphink: package the 0.2 and we'll get it into NEW [03:24] argh [03:24] jpatrick: does that patch apply? === dholbach grabs another coffee [03:24] dholbach: I'll package new upstream version then [03:24] sure [03:24] raphink: ROCK'N'ROLL === zakame [n=zak@210.213.79.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] Riddell: i debian/rules - yes [03:24] in* [03:25] if it applies cleanly that's fine, if not that's broken [03:25] dholbach: as I'm retarballing the new upstream version, shall I rename the folder in it ? or shall I keep it as such and just create a tar.gz from the source? [03:25] evening all :) [03:26] Riddell: I'm surprised it applies cleanly, since the patch doesn't fit the file [03:26] raphink: make a note of it in debian/changelog [03:26] slomo_: would you mind giving me your opinion on #6003 and #6004. It's non-intrusive, but alas, I can't upload it. [03:26] zakame: good idea :) [03:26] malone bug 6003 [03:26] raphink: doesn't matter, however you like it [03:26] Malone bug #6003: Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase. In: transcode (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Media Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/6003 [03:26] malone bug 6004 [03:26] Malone bug #6004: Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase. In: xvidcore (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Media Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/6004 [03:26] raphink: dpkg-dev is clever enough to figure it out [03:27] oki [03:27] Yagisan: i'll do them after merging and fixing avahi [03:27] slomo_: thanks, there were no regressions on the p2 box I have, and it should be fine for ppc [03:28] slomo_: I do wish it did speed up the old boxes, but I like any speed increase on the new ones too [03:30] Yagisan: err... we don't want -fomit-frame-pointer... it makes debugging almost impossible on x86 at least... and in addition to -ffast-math it's probably better to use -fno-unsafe-math or how this switch was called === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] raphink: I am so confused.... [03:33] slomo_, I'm aware of that, but that extra register on x86 is a speedup. Build it with 'noopt' for a debugging build [03:33] lucas, siretart: going to upload motutools [03:33] jpatrick: i'm sorry about you being confused. I'd say you should listen to Riddell, although I still think the patch should match your file in particular. [03:34] ;) [03:34] Yagisan: i know... did you measure the improvement? [03:34] dholbach: wait [03:34] I'll do that [03:34] raphink: I think the patch should add the lines when run in debian/rules [03:34] maybe I'll rename before [03:34] slomo_: yes, from 4fps on a duron 850 to 6.5fps with the same source [03:34] lucas: hm? [03:35] jpatrick: if you think so and Riddell is ok with it, that's fine... [03:35] seb128 proposed to generalize the approach to all debian derivates [03:35] instead of ubuntu-only [03:35] so the name might change to "multidistrotools" or sthing like that [03:35] Yagisan: sounds nice... can you assign the bugs to me (slomo)? i'll do them later today or tomorrow then... but what do you think about the math stuff? [03:35] slomo_: actually -mfpmath=sse would help those packages, but that doesn't work if you don't have an sse chip [03:36] lucas: i think it's nothing wrong with having the 'origin' in the name, but as ever you like [03:36] Yagisan: yes... -march=pentium4 would help too if you have a pentium4... ;) [03:36] I'll think about it during the holidays, so we can upload in early february [03:36] s/february/january [03:36] (that's why holidays are needed ;p) [03:37] lucas: better be quick - i'm not sure what / how we do about UVF [03:37] slomo_: actually, after -march=i686 I didn't get an improvement on either the duron or my amd64 (in 32bit mode) [03:37] january 14th ? [03:37] can somebody who understands something about licenses have a look at hugin? [03:37] hugin? [03:37] slomo_: I haven't seen any errors with -ffast-math enable either [03:37] s/enable/enabled [03:38] dholbach: seb128 also proposed to sponsor a debian upload if the name changes, so we can get it though a sync [03:38] huh [03:38] lucas: fine with me too [03:38] if it's not ubuntu-specific, it might be better [03:38] Riddell: in kcontrol-autostart, admin/cvs.sh has been removed in new usptream version .... [03:38] slomo_: but there may be corner cases where you might get a different result. i386 core has hand tuned assembler though [03:39] slomo_: It's more of a win on amd64 which has less hand tuning (and maybe ppc as well) [03:39] dholbach: new upstream of autostart has been totally changed. It now uses python and scons. The package is _totally_ different. [03:40] :( === esculapius [n=esculapi@Cardioch.chirurgia.uniba.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] raphink: hmm.... python.... [03:41] Yagisan: ok... i'll keep it in mind :) please assign these bugs to me [03:42] well the soft is cpp but some config files are in python [03:42] raphink: you'd have to change that anyway soon :/ [03:43] I don't feel like working on it from scratch right now [03:43] if upstream plans to change that all again soon [03:43] i'll wait for a more stable version === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] I don't want to package stuff that totally change by the week [03:44] slomo_: done. I look forward to testing -frename-registers on these packages when it is fixed in gcc [03:44] + autostart 0.2 doesn't build on my syste [03:44] system [03:44] hi [03:44] raphink [03:44] hi esculapius [03:45] yellow esculapius [03:45] why yellow? [03:46] yeah + hello [03:46] ahhhhhhhhhh [03:46] because it can be a nice colour [03:46] :) [03:46] if you have a liver failure ;) [03:46] raphink: even with scons and all the other crack installed? [03:46] yep [03:46] haha [03:47] raphink: what does the build failure say? [03:47] I notice that is used a lot in b-grade movies that pop up a 2am as filler, usually said by some teenager before an accident [03:47] scons: *** Dependency cycle: autostart/doc/en/index.cache.bz2 -> autostart/doc/en/index.cache.bz2 -> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/autostart/index.cache.bz2 -> install [03:47] File "/usr/lib/scons/SCons/Taskmaster.py", line 292, in _find_next_ready_node [03:47] make: *** [install] Erreur 2 [03:48] anyone knows how to change the decimal separator from comma to dot, not only for openoffice but for all the application that are running under linux? I mean Cross-Over dependent too. [03:48] raphink: i'd whack upstream for that ;) [03:48] dholbach: I'll wait [03:49] ;) [03:49] raphink: talk to them [03:49] raphink: meanwhile we can get the 'old' version in [03:49] as it goes, they migth move to automake next week [03:49] and reprogram everything in ada in a month [03:49] raphink: rofl [03:49] sure dholbach [03:50] jpatrick: heh ;) [03:50] raphink: you uploaded the 'fine' tarball? ;) [03:50] anyone knows? [03:50] worst would be if they moved to fortran 77 [03:50] although I doubt so ;) [03:50] raphink: i'll upload the package straightaway, if you do that [03:50] dholbach: nope, caues I began to work on 0.2 and failed [03:50] raphink: It'll be a problem because there are no Qt/KDE bindings for Ada/Fortran 77 [03:50] ok [03:51] then i'll just rename the tarball [03:51] yes jpatrick I know ;) [03:53] uploading the requested changes dholbach ... hopefully I didn't mess it up in the middle of it ... ;) [03:53] i'd check the debdiff to be sure [03:53] raphink: hehe, we'll see [03:53] (hope you rebuilt the source package ;)) [03:53] that's all I did [03:53] anyone knows? [03:53] mv [03:54] esculapius: i'm not sure this is the right place to ask that though [03:55] this is a development chatroom, not really a user help one [03:55] ok === esculapius [n=esculapi@Cardioch.chirurgia.uniba.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Sto] [03:55] ask on #ubuntu rather [03:56] dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1292 [03:56] hop [03:56] same md5sum and debdiff void [03:56] I'll work on new upstream soon enough, but not right now [03:59] raphink: uploaded [03:59] thanks :) [03:59] dholbach : how did you manage to get the dholbach libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la' [03:59] dholbach make[2] : *** [test] Error 1 error? [04:00] thierry: i just built it in an uptodate dapper pbuilder [04:00] dholbach : you built libfox1.4 or libfxscintilla1.6 ? [04:00] the latter [04:01] k... === dholbach -> dogwalk [04:05] awww [04:06] dholbach's dog -> peoplewalk ;) === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] I need to build with pbuilder a package that needs an other package I just built with pbuilder... how do I do that? [04:26] gn8 [04:27] forget it, it's ok [04:38] Someone could give me a link to merge scripts (lpbugs & co) ? === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d123058.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:48] google for "motu-tools" [04:50] thanks lucas [04:51] just found it [04:51] (and I bookmarked the page, but didn't remembered it :/) === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@c-67-183-18-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] merry christmas everybody [04:57] see you in 2006 === lguerra [n=lguerra@200.21.93.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] morning everyone [05:23] hey bmonty :) [05:24] hi dholbach [05:25] how are you? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] re [05:30] dholbach, could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1291 please ? [05:31] Gloubiboulga: i'll take a look :) [05:31] thanks slomo_ :) === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] Gloubiboulga: later [05:35] Gloubiboulga: but i will do so [05:35] Gloubiboulga: hmm, better use english description :) [05:36] slomo_, yep, wasn't sure about the french description [05:36] dholbach, thanks [05:37] Gloubiboulga: same for the manpage [05:38] Gloubiboulga: and it shows some weird chars in the author section of the manpage [05:39] slomo_, french accents are a real problem ;) === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] german umlauts too ;) [05:40] English is really great [05:40] it's boooring :) [05:41] Gloubiboulga: "-Wl,-z,defs" <--- isn't this more for LDFLAGS? [05:42] Gloubiboulga: instead of mkdir you could put the dirs in debian/$packagename.dirs [05:42] Gloubiboulga: but you need to call dh_installdirs somewhere for that [05:43] Gloubiboulga: and instead of copying the files with cp everywhere you could use dh_install === Gloubiboulga grap a paper and a pen to note all this === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] slomo yep... [05:43] it's my first package :) [05:43] s/grap/grab [05:43] either by calling dh_install source destination or by using debian/$packagename.install files [05:44] np, it's better than my first package :) [05:46] why don't you use make install btw? [05:46] To build 2 packages, but I can use $package.install files instead I guess [05:47] yes [05:47] I'll do this [05:48] call make install and make sure that everything lands in... say... debian/tmp (debian/tmp/usr/bin, etc...) [05:48] then you have a debian/jargoninformatique.install file with one directory/file per line, relative to the top of the source tree === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] slomo_, thanks [05:49] for example you put debian/tmp/usr/bin in there [05:49] hmm... and you could look at man dh_install or other packages :) [05:50] slomo_, yes I know how it works now, I didn't when I built this package [05:50] oh ok :) [05:50] but thanks anyway :) [05:51] notify me when you have the next version uploaded :) [05:51] any why do you rename the binary? [05:51] ok [05:51] because of the capital letters [05:51] I had to look in /usr/bin to use the software when I installed it [05:52] hm... better make a link [05:52] ok [05:52] abiword does the same for example :) [05:52] /usr/bin/abiword -> AbiWord-2.4 === deresh [n=kreso@lns01-0785.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] slomo_: Do you have time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1282 ? === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@7.Red-83-45-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] dholbach : ok, the problem really was that libfox1.4 needed a rebuild... now, what do I do? doing "dch -i" and sending libfox1.4 to revu? [06:25] yeah get some uploads under your belt [06:25] thierry: give me the changelog diff and i upload the rebuild for you :) [06:27] slomo_ : how do I get the diff and email or pastebin? [06:28] *shrug* whatever you like :) === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] slomo_ : k what's your e-mail [06:28] slomo@ubuntu.com [06:31] slomo_ : sent [06:33] slomo_ : is it ok? [06:33] didn't arrive yet :) [06:35] yes, it's ok === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] thierry: katie will talk to you soon :) [06:49] thierry: you should ask elmo to add your email address to katie's whitelist :) === eruin [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] slomo_ : who's katie? [06:54] thierry: the script that pulls the uploads from incoming and puts then in NEW or somewhere for the buildds to pick up... and writes the mail to -changes [06:55] slomo_ : k thanks === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-70-16-64-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A66D9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106001217cbd164.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deresh_ [n=kreso@lns02-1152.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deresh_ [n=kreso@lns01-1474.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-209-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] hi [07:52] hi MasterC === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deresh_ [n=kreso@lns01-1474.dsl.iskon.hr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] lintian doesn't like french guys... [08:03] Gloubiboulga: the manpage? [08:04] yes, but I can't change it: spelling-error-in-description french French [08:04] 'French' is used at the beginning of the description [08:07] slomo, sorry, it's not about the manpage... === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] Gloubiboulga: oh... hmm, i would ignore this warning :) [08:09] hm do we auto sync NEW packages? [08:09] from debian [08:09] sometimes [08:09] ;) [08:09] lighttpd just went to unstable === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] slomo, the new package is on REVU (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1294) [08:12] oui en anglais c'est mieux [08:13] je suis d'accord [08:13] j'hsitais, je n'hsite plus ;) [08:15] ta manire de consrever config.h est originale ;) [08:15] mais a doit fonctionner ;) [08:15] a fait un peu bricolage quoi [08:15] raphink, comment faire autrement ? [08:15] tu pourrais le virer dans le clean [08:16] et le rgnrer dans le pre-build [08:16] ou dans le makebuilddir [08:17] sinon a me parait pas mal :) [08:17] :) j'en ai appris des choses avec ce paquet... [08:17] je veux bien le croire ;) [08:18] aujourd'hui j'ai t embter les vendeurs PC City [08:18] savoir combien cotait un portable sans les logiciels ;) [08:19] ils en font ? ou ils t'ont regard avec des gros yeux ? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] slomo, ping [08:20] Gloubiboulga: ben j'ai insist alors le type a appel le chef du magasin [08:20] et l [08:20] ben en fait le chef du magasin tait un linuxien! [08:20] et il m'a donn des adresses pour avoir un portable sur mesure, certifi compatible linux [08:20] ogra: pong [08:21] alors je pouvais difficilement lui gueuler dessus [08:21] slomo, any hint where to get the firmware ? [08:21] for bcm43xx that is === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] ogra_ibook: yes... from your os x partition :) but i could send it to you... ogra@ubuntu.com ? [08:21] yop Tonio_ [08:22] slomo, gah, i just wiped osX [08:22] yop [08:22] fait chier je recois pas assez de spam............ [08:22] slomo, could you mail it ? [08:22] chier, chier chier [08:22] sure [08:22] thanks :) [08:22] Tonio_: keske tu as reu? [08:22] hi everyone [08:22] raphink: on kubuntu-fr, more appropriate :) [08:24] ogra_ibook: mail sent :) you need to get fwcutter from the bcm43xx homepage to extract the files from it [08:24] oki [08:24] thanks a lot :) === Danten [n=danten@h202n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [08:28] np === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] yay === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] slomo, thanks again, works fine :) [08:42] ogra_: with or without wep? :) [08:43] my next neighbor lives out of range ;) i dont use any encryption out here [08:44] which version of the driver do you use? because latest svn doesn't work for me anymore :( [08:44] the one shipped with the kernel ... [08:45] 2.6.15-9-powerpc [08:46] hmm... what exactly do you do? ifconfig eth1 up && iwconfig eth1 essid foo? [08:46] nope [08:46] ogra_: you got it to work? [08:46] ogra_: I've got some instructions on the forums [08:46] but mine only stayed connected for about 2 minutes [08:46] i modprobe the driver, run sudo iwlis scan and sudo ifup eth1 [08:47] seems stable to me [08:47] you need to set the essid, don't you? [08:47] even at 54Mbit [08:47] i didnt [08:47] can i see your /etc/network/interfaces? [08:48] i got only iface eth1 inet dhcp in there [08:48] nothing special [08:48] I had to set the essid about 20 times until it associated, then setup a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, then ifup eth1, then add a nameserver to resolv.conf [08:48] then it worked for about 2 minutes [08:49] i have the luck to have no other wlans around, so the only possible essid is mine [08:49] only one here too [08:49] strange [08:49] that iwlist can find, anyway [08:49] do you have a linksys AP? [08:49] yup [08:49] odd [08:49] most people (me included) are having problems with linksys [08:50] but one with buit in dsl modem (which is disabled) and the original firmware [08:51] Linksys BEFW11S4 V4 [08:51] whatever that is [08:51] it's my neighbor's connection ;) [08:52] you just reminded me to enable some security on my linksys ap ;) [08:52] WAG54G here [08:54] it's a cable modem/AP [08:54] mine is a DSL modem/AP [08:55] good night everybody - have a happy christmas and a good start into the next year [08:55] hmm, no /proc7acpi on powermac ... where do i get info about CPU temp etc ? [08:55] oh, no it's not [08:55] stupid google [08:55] apart from the small set of info in /proc/pmu ... === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] gn8 dholbach [08:58] ciao dholbach [08:58] ogra_ibook: you have to load therm_adt746x [08:58] slomo: pong :) [08:59] salut dholbach joyeuses ftes [08:59] ogra_ibook: does usplash bail on you too? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] siretart: ping? ;) [08:59] ogra_ibook: and do you get errors about not being able to read/set the clock? [08:59] yup [08:59] slomo: you pinged be about 6 hours ago I think.. [08:59] slomo_: oops I forgot to remind you `in 15 minutes' some hours ago ;) [08:59] thanks ogra, lfittl, merci Gloubiboulga [08:59] ogra, Amaranth: you need to load genrtc to solve the clock issue [09:00] gn dholbach :) [09:00] i'm not too interested in that [09:00] *wave* [09:00] just wondering [09:00] bye dholbach :) === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-160.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] slomo_: do you have some time now to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1000 ? [09:01] trying a reboot+ === raphink thinks having upid=1000 should deserve something [09:01] LOL [09:01] lol [09:01] sure [09:01] :) [09:01] :) [09:02] oh no... another kde package ;) [09:03] hehe [09:03] lol [09:03] yes [09:03] it's the last one I have in stock [09:03] after that, I have to go to kde-apps and find more ;) [09:03] :) === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubiboulga|Awa === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] raphink: looks fine until now ;) [09:09] :) [09:10] your packages are boring :P everything is correct and working :( [09:11] hahaha [09:11] hm, when is the next tb meeting? :) [09:11] slomo well i wouldn't try to apply for MOTU if I had trashy packages ;) [09:11] hopefully [09:12] tb ? [09:12] technical board [09:12] ah ok [09:12] :) [09:13] I put myself on the CommunityCouncilAgenda again [09:13] I was told to wait 4 more weeks, so next time will be fine ;) [09:13] :) [09:14] will you be there slomo? === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] what date is it? [09:15] hmmm the 3rd I guess [09:15] not sure === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] raphink: FTBFS :P but probably not your fault: "libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXft.la" [09:31] slomo: I think that just got removed [09:31] yes [09:31] something needs a rebuild [09:32] to remove the reference to that file === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089FE35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] slomo: does that prevent from building? [09:40] yes [09:40] that's weird [09:40] it built on my machines [09:42] this is weird, libXft.la can't be found in any package [09:42] raphink: it just got removed from dapper [09:43] that last upload of libxft, daniel removed it [09:43] why? [09:43] ask him === siretart is going offline for today. cu tomorrow and merry christmas! [09:44] merry xmas siretart === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] slomo : so it seems kalcul can't be built anymore on dapper ? [09:45] yes [09:45] raphink: update your pbuilder :) [09:45] is there are good reason for that? [09:46] so much for that [09:46] can't even get to the router anymore :/ [09:46] maybe one of the libraries you link to wants this file... should be solved by a rebuild [09:46] Amaranth: hehe, same for me :) [09:47] but the driver gets better on a daily basis [09:47] so hopefully by the time dapper is out it'll wokr === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] slomo what do you want to do about kalcul? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] you could look at all libraries you link to and check if they need a rebuild to get rid of the libXft.la file === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-94-24.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] hmm I'll do that later [10:15] I'll put it as acomment somewhere ;) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-243-246-145.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] hop === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] added to my WikiPage for later work :) === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] hey LJ [10:18] Hi Kyral [10:19] hi Kyral [10:19] Kyral: did EasyChem get through? [10:20] LaserJock: no...because no one will give it another vote *HINT HINT* [10:20] Kyral: well plotdrop got 2 votes but then ajmitch brought a small problem [10:21] slomo: You have to vote on EasyChem again, I uploaded with a new email addy [10:21] But I'm at my inlaws right now and the dialup is killing me [10:21] there's a list of build erros for universe packages, right? Where is it? [10:21] *errors [10:21] Kyral: does your @ubuntu.com email work? [10:22] LaserJock: Yah I talked to elmo at the meeting. He said the problem is that the script that normally does it is dead ;P [10:23] LaserJock: you work on ghemical, right? === Gloubiboulga|Awa is now known as Gloubiboulga [10:23] it's broken on amd64 [10:23] Kyral: oh, I sent him an email yesterday about that and the docteam repo access. I hope that I didn't bother him too much [10:23] Hieronymus: in dapper? [10:23] LaserJock: yes [10:24] LaserJock: in this case I mentioned it in the meeting and sabdfl told me to bug him :P [10:24] Hieronymus: how broken? [10:25] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6082 === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089EDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] LaserJock: there's a libghemical0c2a [10:27] yeah, but the deps should have been changed [10:27] LaserJock: they have [10:28] but for amd64 ghemical is still 1.90-2ubuntu1 [10:28] and when I try to build it, I get errors [10:28] yeah, looks like something happended there [10:29] Hieronymus: I'm not in much of a position to work on that until I get back from Christmas vactions [10:30] Hieronymus: I would try to get azeem (the debian maintainer who is here fairly often) to look at it or one of the MOTUs [10:30] Hieronymus: In any case you could file a bug report or at least see if there isn't one already [10:34] ok, gotta go. I might try to be on later === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] azeem: ping? [10:48] !config channel Plugins.Bugtracker.snarfTarget malone [10:48] The operation succeeded. === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] Merry christmas to all [10:49] see you next week === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] when does NEW packages comes into the dapper repository? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-124-77.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] thierry: when they are approved [10:56] imo [10:57] raphink : ok because I need libfox1.4 to get in (for my REVU package), it's just a rebuild and it has been sent this moring by ogra [10:57] mhm [10:57] raphink : any idea of someone who could approve it? [10:57] just wait [10:57] NEW queue is fast [10:57] not more than a few days [10:58] k... [10:58] ogra : have you sent the rebuild of libfox1.4 to NEW? (just to make sure) [10:59] thierry: i uploaded it iirc ;) [10:59] and it built fine everywhere [11:01] slomo : what's iirc? [11:01] if i recall/remember correctly [11:02] (apt-get install bsdgames && wtf iirc ) :) [11:02] slomo : ok, so in a couple of days, it should be in the dapper repository [11:02] right? [11:02] hmm no... it should be there now [11:05] slomo : ok, but does my changelog also been added or you just rebuilt it and uploaded? [11:06] i added your changelog... see dapper-changes [11:06] Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:40:09 +0000 (GMT) === plugwash [n=plugwash@81-86-129-150.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] slomo : when I do apt-get source libfox1.4 in my dapper chroot, I only get Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:27:56 +0100 [11:36] strange.... [11:36] maybe the archives are broken... === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:40] 1.4.16-2ubuntu3 0 [11:40] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [11:40] amd64, so the archive appears fine. [11:40] corresponds to http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/f/fox1.4/1.4.16-2ubuntu3/ , too. === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@p5089EDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] hey motu's... i just saw something kinda cool you might wanna consider packaging: http://gnickr.sourceforge.net [11:43] put it on wiki/UniverseCandidates [11:43] or its already packaged... adding [11:43] ok === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] slomo, crimsun : I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com ... maybe that's not there yet... [11:54] hi all [11:54] thierry: its been my experience that us.archive.ubuntu.com has lots of issues [11:57] bmonty : k thanks, going to change my repos of apt for my chroot :) [11:57] thierry: I've found that solves lots of problems :)