[12:00] <ossie> ok i got the headers what do i do with them, ??
[12:00] <cafuego> ossie: Keep in mind the tutorial may be wrong.
[12:00] <ossie> ok
[12:01] <pashaw> Craxy, your info is soo vague     does/did windows detect the disks  be fore you tried ubuntu?   jumpers wrong?   ide channel enabled in bios?
[12:01] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: aye...it is...
[12:01] <cafuego> ossie: I would personally grab a newer kenrel (maybe the one from dapper), seeing as that supposedly has built-in support.
[12:01] <Craxy> void^: pastebin output of disk -I and dmesg, dont really understand that part, would you mind to explain that part?
[12:01] <ossie> can i apt-get this new kernel??
[12:01] <cafuego> ossie: Yes, you can.
[12:01] <Hanzo__> can ubuntu be installed to a Hard drive.?
[12:01] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: that's mostly the point
[12:01] <Seveas> Hanzo__, yes
[12:02] <nuxGuru> k.. next question .. am trying to install PengAOL.. is there anyone here that is familiar with it
[12:02] <cmatheson> nuxGuru: if you're looking for IM i would just stick w/ gaim
[12:02] <ossie> sorry to keep on do u have the apt-get command i should use for the new kernel with support??
[12:02] <cafuego> ossie: It's a bit more involved than that, as you need to make some chnages to pull it from the right repository.
[12:02] <Craxy> pashaw: windows detected the disks before i had windows installed, but the computer has aged since then, does someone know how i can check if the disks works?
[12:03] <darker-shadow> i have a few question about ubuntu and ntfs partitions,can som one help me?
[12:03] <rinzai-shu> "windows detected the disks before i had windows installed"  that does not compute!
[12:03] <screenresolution> How to ask ubutu about screen resoultion
[12:03] <cmatheson> !anybody
[12:03] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:03] <ossie> cafu what repositries do i need please
[12:03] <tsawyer> stick with gaim..but if you're diehard about getting pengaol..go here
[12:03] <tsawyer> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[12:04] <screenresolution> how to change resolution?
[12:04] <screenresolution> max is 640by800
[12:04] <nuxGuru> am currently getting error: pengaol:error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3    cannont open object file: no such file or directory
[12:04] <void^> Craxy: what i meant is: get the output of `fdisk -l` and `dmesg` on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - might be easier to just boot knoppix or another livecd to test it..
[12:04] <darker-shadow> questions*
[12:04] <nuxGuru> I need this to work to get ubuntu to talk to web
[12:04] <screenresolution> questions*
[12:04] <psycose> ossie i think you should first find an official howto that will help you to undestand more ..
[12:05] <nuxGuru> yea .. I am an aol user
[12:05] <screenresolution> !ubutu tell screenresolution about screen resolution
[12:05] <ubotu> screenresolution: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:05] <ossie> so read officail howto , on upgrading kernel to dappper biuld??
[12:05] <cmatheson> !fixres
[12:05] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:05] <pashaw> Craxy, you could try a live_CD  in a terminal type  fdisk -l  to see detected drives/partitions   you could reinstall any windows OS just to make sure the jumpers and drives are working
[12:05] <cmatheson> screenresolution: go to that link
[12:05] <Xkiddiegrinders> Hey, I have a quick question, is there an easier way to strect icons other than right clicking them and then selecting the stretch option, its just a slow process...or better yet, is there a way to set a default desktop icon size
[12:06] <Hanzo__> why is there no china mirror on the DL page?
[12:06] <darker-shadow> is it dangerous to allow ubunto read amd write on ntfs partition?
[12:06] <pashaw> Craxy, drives not detected can be alot of things    until you rule out hardware setup  fixing possible Linux errors is a pain
[12:06] <Seveas> Hanzo__, because there is noen?
[12:06] <Seveas> none even
[12:06] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: where in china are you?  maybe you could just use the taiwanese mirrors?
[12:06] <Hanzo__> im not in china
[12:07] <trappist> after all, taiwan = china
[12:07] <vir> could it be the mobo hdd controler is not being picked up?
[12:07] <psycose> ossie what are you trying to do ?
[12:07] <cafuego> ossie: Let me go and get a fresh coffee, then I'll talk you through it.
[12:07] <ossie> cheers very much
[12:07] <ossie> i just want to add support for my ite raid card
[12:07] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: so what's the deal w/ chinese mirrors?
[12:07] <nuxGuru> am trying to get a number of aol users to convert... but I need to get it to work for me before I can help them...
[12:08] <ossie> from what i see on the ubuntu formus, i could do it by adding the files to the kernel
[12:08] <Hanzo__> cmatheson all those people who live there (1.3 billion)
[12:08] <Hanzo__> they could use ubuntu?
[12:08] <ossie> there is a tutorail there and all goes well untill the last make command
[12:09] <cmatheson> Hanzo__: it wouldn't take long for them to set up a mirror if they wanted  it.  there probably are mirrors and it's just not official anyway
[12:09] <vir> nuxGuru  are they using bb or dial up?
[12:09] <psycose> ossie, what is the tutorial ... ? at what step do you fail ?
[12:09] <nuxGuru> I am on dialup.. they are on dialup
[12:09] <ossie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597303
[12:09] <vir> ok
[12:09] <Stormx2> Back
[12:09] <Xkiddiegrinders> Does anyone at all know how to constrain icons by default?
[12:09] <ossie> if u see that post i posted my failure message on there
[12:09] <nuxGuru> until I can get dialup to work on aol. the ubuntu is worthless
[12:09] <dailyrorschach> any users here using a dell latitude d600, I used it with hoary but had some problems want to know if breezy works well on it.  Also www.ubuntuguide.org is there a similar site for version 5.10
[12:10] <rinzai-shu> nuxGuru: that is not a very good argument buddy.  you should find a good local isp and sign up with them, and get your friends to do the same.  there's simply no go excuse to stay with aol
[12:10] <ossie> as soon as i have my raid card sorted, ill be ok to sort out my other little issues
[12:10] <nuxGuru> they neeed to add support in the cd release for dialup users and to support the  PengAol
[12:10] <Hanzo__> is ubuntu compatibel for remote desktop (send and host)  connections to XP machines?
[12:11] <psycose> ossie, what is is the error ou get ? from what command ?
[12:11] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: yes it is
[12:11] <ossie> hanzo yes, u could host a vncerver on your ubuntu box and use a vnc compatible client on the xp macine
[12:11] <nuxGuru> there is no reason for you to get 'opiniataed' on a users choice of "ISP
[12:11] <ossie> ill show u psycose
[12:12] <psycose> ossie use a pastebin so you can show other people later..
[12:12] <Hanzo__> i need to connect to the computer(s) at work using VPN, for RDC, thats all
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: Applications > Internet > Terminal Server Client
[12:12] <Kvark> I'm trying to burn a bunch of files to a CD but it says that some of the files have invalid file names ...how do I solve that or figure out which files to rename?
[12:12] <ossie> ok
[12:12] <pashaw> Hanzo__,  remote desktop is in the base install  use any VNC viewer to access it
[12:12] <Hanzo__> rinzai-shu, is that a GUI?
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: yes
[12:12] <Hanzo__> or command line?
[12:12] <Hanzo__> thanks
[12:12] <rinzai-shu> pashaw: VNC != RDP
[12:13] <nuxGuru> so ... is there any  assistance here to help me get pengaol to work
[12:13] <ossie> http://pastebin.com/475842
[12:13] <Hanzo__> i think its called L2tp onto the VPN
[12:14] <ossie> psycose, http://pastebin.com/475842
[12:14] <gerry> Has anyone seamlessly logon with ADS authentication?
[12:14] <rinzai-shu> Hanzo__: VPN is not the same as RDP either...you'll have to use something else to establish the VPN connection (e.g. FreeSWan) and then use Terminal Server Client to make the RDP connection over the VPN
[12:14] <ossie> if it would be easier i will just use the new dapper kernel
[12:15] <rinzai-shu> hahaha "band" handle...oops
[12:17] <gerry> Any LDAP guru in the room
[12:17] <nickrud> nuxGuru, the file you're looking for is in  libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 , part of gcc-2.95, a very old compiler. You may need to install it to compile your software
[12:17] <nickrud> *gcc-2.95
[12:17] <tidalwav1> Hi people, I have a specific question about bash scripting and awk...anyone know about these things and want to help?
[12:17] <cafuego> ossie: Ok. Now one thing to keep in mind is that hotplug may not work when running the dapper kenrel; it uses a different way of handling things, so usb disks may need to be manually mounted when plugged in.
[12:18] <rinzai-shu> gerry: LDAP is not specific to Ubuntu alone...have you tried the #ldap channel ?
[12:18] <ossie> no problem , i can mount disks
[12:18] <gerry> no i have not
[12:18] <ossie> u think this will be a pain with ipod?
[12:18] <nuxGuru> ty Nickrud .. will seee what I can do with it
[12:18] <gerry> thanks I will see if I can get some in sight there
[12:18] <tidalwav1> anyone know a lot about awk? :P
[12:18] <rinzai-shu> gerry: there's almost seventy folks on there.  one of em is bound to be a guru. ;-)
[12:18] <ossie> i also use a external usb dvdr
[12:18] <ga^vu> i'm trying to install opendc, because after the configure command ,,, it tells me ti type make...but "file not found"
[12:19] <ga^vu> why?
[12:19] <psycose> ossie,  well are you using the good version of gcc to compile the kernel ?
[12:19] <cafuego> ossie: Mine gets mounted by gtkpod on the dapper kernel.
[12:19] <ossie> cafuego, why have they removed such a important feature, also can i downgrade kernel
[12:19] <nuxGuru> cn you tell me wheere I might locate it?  I could go in and tryy to mod the pengaolsource to work with the new compiler . bt my programing skills are very ouitdated
[12:19] <rinzai-shu> ga^vu: do you have build-essentials and all that jazz installed?   sounds like you are missing make.
[12:19] <cafuego> ossie: They haven't removed it, it just doesn't work between the dapper kernel and the breezy userspace.
[12:19] <bradley_> hey anyone heard of hamachi?
[12:19] <Tricia564421> anyone know how to access the msn chats?  I am not talking im
[12:20] <nickrud> nuxGuru, I basically quit coding in 1989, so ... :)
[12:20] <ga^vu> aham
[12:20] <ossie> i made a link from version 4.30  to the required verision
[12:20] <ossie> of gcc i mean cafuego
[12:20] <nuxGuru> I quit in 90
[12:20] <ga^vu> I'll try that
[12:20] <jgrieves> any hacks to gdm to just allow a command line login?
[12:20] <ossie> i made a softlink
[12:20] <cmatheson> jgrieves: what do you mean?
[12:20] <crimsun_> jgrieves: meaning no display manager?
[12:20] <ossie> will the new kernel work with vmware??? as i need this
[12:20] <cafuego> ossie: What does 'gcc -v' say about the version?
[12:20] <jgrieves> cmatheson like an option to just stop gdm  + x and do a command line login
[12:20] <bradley_> anyone heard of hamachi?
[12:21] <jgrieves> cmatheson used to do it all the time with xdm
[12:21] <ilmari> where do I report bugs on packages that dont exist in bugzilla or launchpad?
[12:21] <nuxGuru> Unix has changed way too much .. and linux has many new terms and tools that I am not familiar wityh
[12:21] <ossie> sorry its 4.02 , cafuego
[12:21] <cafuego> ossie: vmware crashes (here) bith the 2.6.12 and 2.6.15 kernels.
[12:21] <crimsun_> jgrieves: echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:21] <cmatheson> jgrieves: like 'apt-get remove gdm'? or chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm? or you could check out update-rc.d
[12:21] <cafuego> ossie: Ok, that's pobably the issue then. You need to run it with gcc 3.4
[12:21] <psycose> ossie, yes use 3.4 .....
[12:21] <nuxGuru> excuse my typos as I am a one handed touch typer
[12:21] <nickrud> minix was the 'thing' when I stopped. Almost got it out of byte, maybe my life would be different if I had ;)
[12:21] <bradley_> how do you map a network drive on linux?
[12:21] <ossie> can i install the 2 versions cafuego
[12:21] <ilmari> specifically, dhcdbd
[12:21] <jgrieves> no i just want like a button on GDM to click so i can revert to command line login
[12:22] <jgrieves> i guess i can use ctrl _ alt _+ 1?
[12:22] <cafuego> ossie: Yep. 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4'
[12:22] <jgrieves> im just used to m old xdm das :)
[12:22] <crimsun_> jgrieves: right, there's no pretty button by default.
[12:22] <duck__> anyone know where to get sgzip from?
[12:22] <cmatheson> jgrieves: yes you can use ctrl+alt+f1
[12:22] <cafuego> sgzip? Wassat?
[12:22] <jgrieves> crimsun_ alright
[12:22] <psycose> cafuego, even vmwareplayer ? vmwareplayer run good for me ... 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:22] <duck__> anyone?
[12:22] <ossie> sok im installing the proper version
[12:22] <psycose> ossie, Debian power ;)-
[12:22] <cafuego> psycose: Not tried the player, only workstation (the vmnet0 module makes the kernel oops)
[12:22] <jgrieves> crimsun_ cmatheson ty :)
[12:23] <tjs> having all sorts of issues with totem in firefox on breezy. I've installed win32codecs, totem wont use them. mplayer works so I installed mozilla-mplayer, firefox still uses totem. I apt-get removed totem, firefox -still loads totem??-
[12:23] <ossie> :) cheers, cafuego and everyone else
[12:23] <jgrieves> merry christmas
[12:23] <crimsun_> you, too
[12:23] <rinzai-shu> duck__: seekable gzip?
[12:23] <tjs> it says its the mozilla-totem plugin, but I can see no package in dpkg -l for that
[12:23] <ossie> how do i remove a solftlink ??can i just rm it ?
[12:23] <duck__> rinzai-shu,  thats the one, know where to find it?
[12:23] <cafuego> ossie: yes
[12:23] <tjs> how do I kill this totem thing?
[12:23] <tjs> with fire?
[12:24] <MrProper_> can we all organise a world wide boycott of using WMV and WMA codecs....friken annoying
[12:24] <tidalwav1> nobody can help me with awk?
[12:24] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, sure'
[12:24] <cmatheson> tjs: i think 'kill' would be more effective than fire... but whatever
[12:24] <duck__> rinzai-shu, i tried building from source, but it fails on: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[12:24] <ilba7r> !wlassistant
[12:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ilba7r
[12:24] <cafuego> MrProper_: wtf are you still use them? We've been boycotting them for YEARS.
[12:24] <tjs> cmatheson: :)
[12:24] <ilba7r> !info walassistant
[12:24] <cafuego> duck__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[12:24] <MrProper_> cafuego, hehe i dont use them but sometimes i need a clip they only give out in wmv piece of crap
[12:24] <cafuego> duck__: It will fix your problem.
[12:24] <psycose> cafuego, i'm pretty impress by the work they have done for the player... may be they scare about Xen that is coming ...
[12:24] <tidalwav1> MrProper: opening external dialog
[12:25] <rinzai-shu> duck__:  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=100803  ?
[12:25] <cafuego> duck__: Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CHeckInstall
[12:25] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, how do you mean?
[12:25] <nickrud> tjs, you could try installing totem-xine, or rm the libtotem stuff in the firefox plugin directory
[12:25] <tjs> ok, thanks :)
[12:25] <ossie> whoops i just deleted the real thing instead of the softlink, ??? andy way to fix that ??
[12:25] <tidalwav1> MrProper, I mean I opened an external dialog window to talk to you about my problem, because it's very specific
[12:25] <cafuego> ossie: reinstall (gcc)
[12:25] <ossie> hehehe, im like a bull in a china shop
[12:25] <ossie> hehehe
[12:25] <tidalwav1> MrProper, do you see the dialog window?
[12:26] <MrProper_> tidalwav1, no
[12:26] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc'
[12:26] <rinzai-shu> wmv makes the jesus baby cry :-(
[12:26] <tidalwav1> MrProper, forget it then, I"ll type it here, hang on
[12:26] <servoe> hhaha
[12:26] <servoe> baby jesus
[12:26] <rinzai-shu> servoe: yes, that one!
[12:26] <Aven> what's the command to see all current ssh connections?
[12:26] <psycose> ossie # ln -s target link_name
[12:27] <ossie> im being silly now , how do i reinstall, i have done another apt-get and it says its installed, but i just accidentaly delted it
[12:27] <cmatheson> Aven: you coud try something like ps -C ssh ; ps -C sshd
[12:27] <cmatheson> er, ps -gV
[12:27] <cmatheson> ack
[12:27] <cmatheson> ps -fC
[12:27] <Aven> ah, thanks
[12:28] <rinzai-shu> it is as if man ps has started spitting out random examples here
[12:28] <ga^vu> still won't make ?
[12:28] <ga^vu> why?
[12:28] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, ping
[12:28] <ossie> cafuego, i delted the files froom /usr/bin
[12:28] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, wassup?
[12:28] <ossie> i thoguht i was delting the softlinks
[12:28] <ossie> but i have delted the files
[12:29] <jax0m> if someone emailed me a .tar.gz in three parts (main.tar.gz.part.aa, ab, ac) how do i get all three together?
[12:29] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc'
[12:29] <ossie> cafuego, your a star
[12:29] <Hanzo__> hey kbrooks
[12:29] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, wassup?
[12:30] <ossie> i tried reinstall , but i was doing it wrong cheers
[12:30] <ossie> its done by the looks of it < whooope
[12:30] <Hanzo__> nothing, just asking about the VPN config
[12:30] <void^> jax0m: cat blah* > foo
[12:30] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: 'someone' should have included some instructions for you!
[12:30] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:31] <varsendagger> hey what is a good program for me too look at my har4d drive graphically, sizes and stuff?
[12:31] <jax0m> hmm
[12:31] <ossie> i was using suse, but it go slow and bloated , so i cam eback to ubuntu hoping to get my raid card sorted, then im happy with it
[12:31] <jax0m> void^, just append it?
[12:31] <ossie> had sound card issues on suse, it would work when it felt like
[12:31] <sureshot> hey does anyone know of a viusal type basic dev. pacage other than gambas
[12:32] <cafuego> Yay, my v6 tunnel is back
[12:32] <ossie> i prefer ubuntu , but suse had built in support for my radi card
[12:32] <Yamato> ciao, anyone who speak italian?
[12:32] <nemik> when you plug in an ipod, where is it connected in /dev/? for me it puts it in /media/ipod as mount-point which is OK but it is read-only! how can i make it write-able?
[12:32] <HymnToLife> !it
[12:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <void^> jax0m: try it.. looks like the kind of files produced by split (see man split)
[12:32] <jax0m> k
[12:32] <jax0m> thanks void^
[12:32] <Yamato> ubotu> grazie (tnx)
[12:32] <ubotu> Yamato: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:33] <jax0m> jax0m@mantits:~/Desktop$ sudo cat main.tar.gz.part.aa > main.tar.gz.part.ab
[12:33] <jax0m> bash: main.tar.gz.part.ab: Permission denied
[12:33] <psycose> ossie you can use MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-2.95" to specify the gcc version you want to use ....
[12:33] <Yamato> yap, I understood!
[12:33] <ossie> sweet, ill rember that for future
[12:33] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: you cannot use redirection like that with sudo
[12:33] <HymnToLife> Yamato > ubotu is a bot
[12:33] <Yamato> I've just swich to ubuntu.it
[12:33] <Yamato> lol, ok...
[12:34] <void^> jax0m: cat [all part files here]  > output_file_here
[12:34] <rinzai-shu> jax0m: if you must use sudo, do something like :  sudo sh -c cat main.tar.gz.part.aa > main.tar.gz.part.ab
[12:34] <_nesta> can anyone help please
[12:34] <void^> jax0m: be careful, sudo might only affect cat but not the redirection after >
[12:34] <_nesta> i just made a mistake and associated all files with xmms media player ... now i cant go to my system setting ... it pops up the media player instead ... how can i undo this ???
[12:34] <psycose> ossie, so are you ok ?
[12:34] <ga^vu> why after ./configure won't it accept may make?
[12:34] <ossie> yes seems good so far
[12:35] <ossie> many many thanks
[12:35] <ossie> u guys/ gals are great
[12:35] <duck__> cafuego, worked wonders, thanks
[12:36] <sureshot> just a quick question. does anyone know of a dev package for linux that is like visual basic other than gambas
[12:36] <ossie> i wish i would have converted to linux years ago
[12:36] <ossie> wasted too long on windas
[12:36] <rinzai-shu> ossie: it is never too late to begin anew
[12:37] <ossie> i just started a new job that u support software on linux too, so i thought now is a great time to start using at home
[12:37] <ga^vu> why after ./configure won't it accept may make?
[12:37] <ga^vu> heeelp meee...please :D
[12:37] <ossie> one of my work buddys recommended ubuntu
[12:37] <psycose> ossie, just remember to read the man first and you will boost increasingly
[12:37] <ossie> hehehe, yes :)
[12:37] <Hanzo__> is Ubuntu compatibel with USB memory sticks 128mb  ?
[12:37] <crimsun_> Hanzo__: yes
[12:39] <Hanzo__> can the aMule program be installed?
[12:39] <crimsun_> Hanzo__: sure
[12:39] <varsendagger> hey what is a good program for me too look at my har4d drive graphically, sizes and stuff?
[12:39] <ossie> what else could i do with biulding my own kernel??
[12:39] <ossie> is the possiblities endless
[12:40] <crimsun_> varsendagger: System> Administration> System Monitor
[12:40] <crimsun_> (DappeR)
[12:40] <jax0m> void^, i hope this works ;)
[12:40] <crimsun_> varsendagger: in Breezy, check Applications> System Tools
[12:41] <varsendagger> crimsun_, i only use fluxbox and i have seen some cool programs but i can't seem to find them again
[12:41] <rinzai-shu> varsendagger: xdu, qdu, kdirstat there are many
[12:41] <psycose> ossie, remember to post the solution on the thread concerning the gcc version and eventually using  MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg ... this will help others ;-)
[12:42] <crimsun_> varsendagger: gnome-system-[tab] 
[12:43] <MarcN> I have two sets of ~300 scanned photos from a wedding (damn CVS screwed it up the first time) - the photos are close, but not identical and have totally different filenames.  Any tools to find the matching scans?  findimagedup only finds 4 matches and they are right.
[12:43] <ossie-fingsx> i certianly will, psycose
[12:43] <ossie-fingsx> bbi10mins, waiting for compliation to end
[12:45] <MoonRanger> is thier a fast way of installing KDE ...
[12:45] <viscount> anyone familiar with the `tar xGf archive.tar /some_folder` command? particularly the G part of it? does it make a full backup first time it runs?
[12:45] <MoonRanger> like with an apt-get command
[12:45] <misse^> MoonRanger sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <misse^> I think :o
[12:45] <viscount> Moder, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <viscount> whops
[12:46] <MoonRanger> is that to install or de-install kde
[12:46] <MoonRanger> thats what i used to install KDE
[12:46] <viscount> install
[12:46] <MoonRanger> is thier a similar command to un-install
[12:46] <misse^> I'm guessing sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop MoonRanger
[12:46] <viscount> MoonRanger, i dont think so
[12:47] <jax0m> void^, that worked
[12:47] <viscount> misse^, i dont think that will uninstall any of the kde desktop packages, just the one package named kubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <jax0m> thanks, honey
[12:47] <Seveas> MoonRanger, try debfoster
[12:48] <gnuyen> does anyone know where the ipw2200 firmware is in ubuntu 5.10?
[12:48] <misse^> viscount oh, yeah you're right
[12:48] <psycose> viscount have you read the man ?
[12:48] <misse^> maybe through synaptic?
[12:48] <viscount> psycose, yes, but sometimes its not very verbose
[12:48] <guest_> must go today!  2 alienware laptops price $500 for one, 750 for two. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at heymikeeh@hotmail.com or yahoo at mperkelay if interested and wanting to buy only!!
[12:49] <viscount> psycose, are you familiar with it?
[12:50] <jvai> hey uall. good evening
[12:50] <kbrooks> Hanzo__, here?
[12:50] <Hanzo__> huh?
[12:50] <viscount> kbrooks, are you following me :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> viscount, no
[12:52] <psycose> viscount, no sorry, hope google could help you ..
[12:52] <viscount> psycose, im pretty sure I got it, but just thought I'd ask someone with xp on the subj, better safe than sorry
[12:53] <AbdulSpiegel> okay, can someone help me get mpegs to play on like firefox and stuff
[12:53] <greg_> 5.04  help.   x starts ok the login screen comes up and accepts the ligin info. but gnome never starts.  all i get is a gray screen and a mouse curser ???
[12:53] <greg_> fresh default install   ^
[12:53] <stianh> Hey, does anyone know how to change the functions of multimediashortcuts on laptops in gnome? I have volume up/down/mute that I wanna map to PCM instead of Headphones
[12:53] <ga^vu> anybody help me please !!!
[12:54] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[12:54] <stianh> ga^vu, what's your problem?
[12:54] <ga^vu> anything i install...make -> command not found
[12:54] <stianh> hmm
[12:54] <stianh> you don't have make then
[12:54] <viscount> anyone familiar with the tar -G flag?
[12:54] <hypernewbie> doesnt make always come by default
[12:54] <ga^vu> probably
[12:54] <gandhii> or its not finding it
[12:54] <ga^vu> how do i install it
[12:54] <ga^vu> or...
[12:55] <hypernewbie> synaptic??
[12:55] <ga^vu> i'm new in linux
[12:55] <greg_> ga^vu install via the package manager...  but to compile you have to install 'build-essential"
[12:55] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me to get .wmv and mpegs to work?
[12:55] <stianh> ga^vu, you have used synaptic? package manager?
[12:55] <ga^vu> k...2 sec
[12:55] <stianh> ga^vu, what greg_  said
[12:55] <greg_> now how the crap do i start gnome ?
[12:55] <mcjerry> i've been using xchat for several weeks now......is there a better program on ubuntu for irc use?
[12:55] <hypernewbie> well
[12:55] <hypernewbie> i dont have that package
[12:55] <hypernewbie> but i build fine
[12:55] <kemik> greg_:  "startx" or "gdm" i guess
[12:56] <greg_> kemik read the first post plese
[12:56] <hypernewbie> mcjerry, what better u expect?
[12:56] <psycose> viscount, isn't -g better than -G ? (http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/tar/tar_78.html)
[12:56] <kemik> greg_:  fresh install but gnome doesnt run ?
[12:56] <greg_> yep
[12:56] <kemik> greg_:  and startx/gdm does nada?
[12:56] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me to get .wmv and mpegs to work?
[12:57] <kemik> greg_:  looked over your xorg.conf ?
[12:57] <kemik> no errors?
[12:57] <kemik> syslog ?
[12:57] <greg_> no startx gdm work just fine,  but no desktop
[12:57] <ga^vu> found it
[12:57] <mcjerry> hypernewbie: nothing in particular, just wanted to know opinions.......if better program than xchat
[12:57] <ga^vu> thank you
[12:57] <ga^vu> thanks a alot
[12:57] <greg_> kemik: Xorg is NOT the problem.   gnome wont start.
[12:58] <stianh> greg_, you don't get any messages?
[12:58] <greg_> nope
[12:58] <stianh> and what are you trying to do to stat gnome?
[12:58] <stianh> s/stat/start
[12:59] <Vejito> Hi'all :)
[12:59] <greg_> login at the gdm prompt and it accepts the login then goes gray and stayes there stianh
[12:59] <stianh> Hello
[12:59] <Vejito> Is this the place for an Wintel consultant to be "converted" to Ubuntu user?
[12:59] <hypernewbie> greg_, startx?
[12:59] <kemik> greg_:  ah ok.. that sounds really weird
[12:59] <stianh> greg_, aha. hmm, and it's the first time it is trying to start gnome?
[01:00] <greg_> hypernewbie: startx starts xorg  yes  but no desktop.
[01:00] <hypernewbie> wierd
[01:00] <greg_> stianh: yes
[01:00] <nevakee31> how do you play mpg, mpeg, avi files on linux???????????????????
[01:00] <cdubya> nevakee, mplayer
[01:00] <hypernewbie> nevakee31, apt-get gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> greg_: do you have gdm installed?
[01:00] <hypernewbie> nevakee31, apt-get gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[01:00] <nevakee31> ok thanks cdubya~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:01] <greg_> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[01:01] <holycow> instead of startx restart gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm restart for any newbs that might be asking
[01:01] <stianh> nevakee31, enable universe in synaptic and add gstreamerplugins then use totem
[01:01] <hypernewbie> ir rhythmbox
[01:01] <cdubya> nevakee31, or do what hypernewbie and stianh said.........
[01:01] <cdubya> heh
[01:01] <nevakee31> great i will do just that!!!!!!!!!!! thanks stianh and cdubya!!!
[01:01] <nevakee31> and hypernewbie
[01:01] <stianh> hehe
[01:01] <nevakee31> :)
[01:01] <greg_> so anyone have any clue what might be up with this thing ?
[01:02] <kemik> greg_:  no, not really..  using breezy ?
[01:02] <stianh> greg_, sorry. the thing I would normally try if it was an old install gone busted was to just rm -rf all the .gnome and .gtk stuff
[01:02] <hypernewbie> or u can download the unsecure mpg123(like i did) and do a force install :)
[01:02] <greg_> hoary
[01:02] <kemik> greg_:  anyways, it could be network related
[01:03] <greg_> stianh: that could work cause the /home was not clean.
[01:03] <psycose> Vejito new to Ubuntu / GNU Linux ?
[01:03] <Vejito> Can someone help me find a solution for installing an old ISA SoundBlaster 16 card?
[01:03] <kemik> greg_:  googled it and a few hits has sort of the same symptoms when network is mucking-up
[01:03] <stianh> greg_, then you should try that
[01:03] <Vejito> New to Linux :)
[01:03] <Vejito> Hi Psycose
[01:03] <kemik> greg_:  btw, a special reason why you use hoary ?
[01:03] <stianh> greg_, that can easily become a problem when keeping your /home :P
[01:04] <greg_> kemik: have the cd and on dialup
[01:04] <psycose> Vejito, what is your system configuration ?
[01:04] <kemik> keeping /home never works flawlessly imo ... sort of like keeping the registry in windows between installs ;)
[01:04] <greg_> stianh: added a user with clean /home lets see
[01:04] <hypernewbie> greg_, ship it again to grab breezy, softmodems work for that too
[01:04] <stianh> ouch, dialup :) that's almost as bad as my moms 150/150kbps cable "broadband" :P
[01:04] <kemik> greg_:  ahh. dialup :/ thought they were extinct by now :)
[01:04] <Vejito> Before installing it on one of my "production" PC's I've installed it on an old PII 233 Mhz PC with 128MB RAM
[01:05] <greg_> kemik: there is no option here yet.
[01:05] <Sean> hi
[01:05] <hypernewbie> kemik, im on ubuntu dialup :P
[01:05] <kemik> yeah i figured that :)
[01:05] <batman> hello can someone help me figure out why my 32-bit 5.1 soundblaster pci card isn't working or if i need different drivers?
[01:05] <Stormx2> >.< Any CSS designers here?
[01:05] <Sean> Somone care to help me?
[01:05] <hypernewbie> batman, ubuntuforums.org
[01:05] <kemik> Stormx2:  not really..
[01:05] <Stormx2> Sean: Sure, what with?
[01:05] <kemik> Stormx2:  but shoot..
[01:06] <stianh> Sean, you'll need to let us in on your secret!
[01:06] <kemik> (only done a smaaaall project-webpage in css)
[01:06] <Sean> Ok I been a long time linux user. Switched from debian to ubuntu.
[01:06] <Sean> Using the new 5.1 Breezy
[01:06] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[01:06] <Sean> Well I am having glx issues
[01:06] <gandhii> or any ideas on why and how to fix it?
[01:06] <Sean> Giving me a Illegal instruction error
[01:06] <greg_> looks exactly the same for the new user.   login at gdm  [OK]   screen goes grey-brown  and has a mouse pointer....... that's it.....  nothing changes from that point......
[01:06] <gandhii> its an amd64 nf4 system
[01:07] <vir_> Stormx2,  i have done a bit of css in the past whats the matter
[01:07] <kemik> greg_:  try cleaning up your network-related stuff... firewall? (firewalls needed on dialup?)
[01:07] <greg_> kemik: fresh install.... no firewall
[01:07] <Vejito> Psycose > PII 233, 128MB RAM, S3 video card, Samsung DVD-Rom, Quantum Bigfoot, WD and Seagate HD,
[01:07] <psycose> Vejito, ?
[01:07] <stianh> greg_, hmm, then I would guess the network stuff would be the next way to go
[01:07] <Stormx2> vir_: >.< Kinda need a nice up to date layout for a site
[01:07] <cdubya> Stormx2, done some CSS.....
[01:08] <Vejito> Psycose> Do you want the installed kernel modules?
[01:08] <psycose> Vejito, are you able to recompile your kernel ?
[01:08] <greg_> stianh: kemik what in the network.... it is a single box with dialup ?
[01:08] <stianh> ah
[01:08] <stianh> hmm, what I've seen is gnome not working well due to a bad hostname
[01:08] <vir_> storm2 you seen alistapart.com?
[01:08] <Vejito> Psycose> Euh... There has to be a first for everything, not?
[01:08] <stianh> ie. bad localhost hostname, calling it hellobox.net or something
[01:09] <jaro> hi there. I'd like to ask you wheter it is possible to have more versions of the same "package-set" (group of (cross)dependent packages) installed in the same time. E.g. kde3.4 & kde3.5
[01:09] <stianh> but that usually brings up an errormesage
[01:09] <greg_> ok how to change it ?
[01:09] <hypernewbie> greg_, re-install?
[01:09] <stianh> "hostname newname"
[01:09] <void^> o_O
[01:09] <psycose> Vejito, well you could do $ lsmod | grep snd-sb16          to see if the needed driver is loaded but i don't think it will .... ;-)
[01:09] <Sean> Anyhow anyone know what is wrong with mine?
[01:09] <greg_> stianh: that wont last a reboot will it ?
[01:10] <Sean> That's one downer on ubuntu
[01:10] <Vejito> With root permissions?
[01:10] <Sean> No alsaconfig
[01:10] <Sean> =
[01:10] <Sean> =/
[01:10] <stianh> greg_, no don't think so, but just to check ;)
[01:10] <greg_> k
[01:10] <crimsun_> Sean: alsaconfig is unmaintained upstream, is bug-ridden, and has security issues.
[01:10] <stianh> you'll need to edit /etc/hosts as well
[01:10] <robbie_> hi
[01:10] <robbie_> can i have some help
[01:10] <crimsun_> It was removed from alsa-utils with just cause
[01:10] <robbie_> enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:10] <Sean> But still
[01:10] <kemik> greg_:  what's in your .xsession.errors ?
[01:10] <Sean> People with two sound cards
[01:10] <crimsun_> Sean: meaning alsaconf, of course.
[01:10] <Sean> like me
[01:10] <psycose> Vejito, what Ubuntu version  & Linux kernel version are you using (uname -r) ?
[01:10] <Sean> Even though I knew how to do it
[01:11] <Sean> I just blacklisted my one sound card
[01:11] <crimsun_> Sean: I have anywhere from 1-4 sound devices at any given point. alsaconf doesn't help with that.
[01:11] <Determinist> how can i play windows media player browser content with firefox under ubuntu? isnt there some totem plugin that does this?
[01:11] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:11] <Stormx2> vir_: Yeah i read ALA a lot
[01:11] <Craxy^away> im searching for a new computer since my old is a bit... old.. Anyway does somebody know why dell only offers computers with xp and no possibility to order without windows xp?
[01:11] <greg_> changed to localhost.localdomain    that should work right ?
[01:11] <Fixion> whenever I try to play an mp3 with mpg123 it says that no suitable libao driver is found, I have libao2 installed, why doesn't it work?
[01:11] <Sean> Anyways know what could be up with my glx issue?
[01:11] <Vejito> Psycose> 2.6.12-10-386
[01:11] <hypernewbie> Determinist, what?
[01:11] <SEJeff> Craxy^away: Because Microsoft gives them discounts to do that
[01:11] <hypernewbie> Determinist, u mean play .wma s?
[01:11] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:11] <TigerDuck> hmm .... I locked myself out because my password contains special characters and after upgrade from hoary to breezy the keymapping changed, I assume
[01:11] <crimsun_> Fixion: you need to change /etc/libao.conf to read: default_driver=alsa09
[01:12] <crimsun_> Sean: url to pastes?
[01:12] <Vejito> Psycose> When I launch the grep command, nothing happens
[01:12] <vir_> ok Stormx2  :)
[01:12] <jaro> Sean: I switched from debian and was as well scared that alsaconf was missing. I also have two cards and sound not working yet :-/
[01:12] <robbie_> i know i have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:12] <Determinist> hypernewbie, no, i mean streaming content, you know, like the stuff on launch and the previews on amazon...
[01:12] <greg_> no help.....  crap.  looks like i redo the install.   that will cost extra.
[01:12] <robbie_> well
[01:12] <hypernewbie> Determinist, then thats beyond my knowledge :(
[01:12] <psycose> Vejito, ok so the driver is not loaded ....
[01:12] <crimsun_> jaro: multiple cards isn't a problem. What two cards?
[01:12] <robbie_> i guess no one wants to help
[01:12] <Fixion> crimsun_: I get an alsa write error now
[01:12] <Determinist> hypernewbie, :)
[01:13] <Sean> crimsun_ my issue is when I did a clean install with 5.1 Breezy. I am getting an illegal instruction error with glx
[01:13] <Determinist> hypernewbie, thanks anyways
[01:13] <Sean> Never did that with 5.04
[01:13] <Stormx2> vir_: i read it, but i'm not a very creative person when it comes to layouts >.<
[01:13] <kemik> greg_:  try look inside .xsession.errors
[01:13] <robbie_> CAN I HAVE SOME HELP ENABLING SWAT FOR SAMBA?
[01:13] <Vejito> Psycose> I had about the same idea :) But I don't know how to add drivers in Linux ;)
[01:13] <crimsun_> Sean: which graphics chipset?
[01:13] <Sean> Ah the old i810
[01:13] <crimsun_> robbie_: yelling doesn't get you assistance any faster.
[01:13] <Sean> I'm too poor to get an nvidia
[01:13] <Sean> or ati
[01:13] <jaro> crimsun_: it's not very easy to find out how I can find switch active soundcard.
[01:13] <ossie-fingsx> psycose what ssh deamon do you reccommend ??? please
[01:14] <vir_> Stormx2,  why not do a retro look.... like old 80s computer games?
[01:14] <crimsun_> jaro: are you using GNOME?
[01:14] <Sean> I was checking the forums and others are having issues with it
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: no
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: running kde
[01:14] <vir_> what sort of market you trying torget?
[01:14] <hypernewbie> Sean, what prob u having again?
[01:14] <greg_> that file is only 4 linse long and ends with "SESSION_MANAGER=local/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7293"
[01:14] <crimsun_> jaro: man set-default-soundcard
[01:14] <Sean> issue is when I did a clean install with 5.1 Breezy. I am getting an illegal instruction error with glx
[01:14] <greg_> no error messages in it
[01:14] <jaro> crimsun_: I know that by now.
[01:15] <greg_> kemik:  ^
[01:15] <jaro> crimsun_: But it was tough to dig this out :)
[01:15] <kemik> greg_:  yeah.. noticed
[01:15] <hypernewbie> hmm
[01:15] <robbie_> so
[01:15] <robbie_> what do i do
[01:15] <psycose> ossie-fingsx, the classic one, but for ftp i recommend you http://vsftpd.beasts.org/
[01:15] <crimsun_> jaro: that's because KDE hasn't hooked into it yet, unlike GNOME.
[01:15] <eskan> ./server irc.knts.org
[01:15] <hypernewbie> nope dunno
[01:15] <eskan> ./server irc.knts.org
[01:15] <Vejito> PSycose> Isn't there some kind of hardware detect tool?
[01:15] <robbie_> to get SWAT for Samba working in ubuntu?????
[01:15] <greg_> kemik: X is not giving any trubble as far as i can tell
[01:15] <void^> Vejito: sb16 come in different flavours. i got a jumperless but non-pnp sb16. may require several module options.
[01:15] <ossie-fingsx> cheers psycose
[01:15] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:15] <void^> Vejito: very difficult to detect non-pnp isa cards
[01:15] <crimsun_> Sean: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:15] <psycose> guys what is the official wiki page for recompiling the kernel on ubuntu breezy thanks
[01:16] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i change the login screen
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: strange is that cd playing works but no other sounds come out. Problems with aRts? alsa? alsamixer seems to work with volume levels without problems. Still my computer stands still :-/
[01:16] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:16] <Vejito> Void> Is that the "big whopper" card? In that case, I have the same
[01:16] <Sean> k
[01:16] <robbie_> can i have some help enabling SWAT for Samba
[01:16] <nickrud> robbie_, I haven't used swat for a long time, but if I remember, there's a file (/etc/swat or so) that you can edit to allow named users access to swat
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: What the hell?
[01:16] <hypernewbie> the_mr_bong_show, system>administration>login screen setup
[01:16] <mrkoje> robbie_,  whats your problem with swat
[01:16] <jaro> crimsun_: It is issue of alsa, isn't it?
[01:16] <psycose> ossie-fingsx, see u
[01:16] <void^> Vejito: eh. it reads "sb16 value" ;)
[01:16] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:17] <hypernewbie> the_mr_bong_show , or gksudo gdmsetup
[01:17] <ossie-fingsx> cheers merry xmas
[01:17] <crimsun_> jaro: no, it's not.
[01:17] <robbie_> mrkoje:i just need to enable it
[01:17] <jaro> crimsun_: If alsa works with soundcard correctly aRts should do that as well.
[01:17] <kemik> greg_:  well.. it's a weird error and not much to go by :/
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: use `find /lib/modules -iname "sb"` to find available modules.. i don't remember the exact name
[01:17] <Vejito> Void: I meant the size :) Mine is a full SoundBlaster 16
[01:17] <cafuego> Vejito: The big whopper is the AWE64 (I got one, with original manual & everything)
[01:17] <ossie-fingsx> thanx for yoru help psycose
[01:17] <jaro> crimsun_: so what can help? Changing audio device manually?
[01:17] <mrkoje> robbie_,  so you have already installed it?
[01:17] <kemik> greg_: cant say that i'm of much help
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: load a module with modprobe <name>, name without .ko
[01:17] <psycose> Vejito well i would suggest you to recompile your kernel and add the Sound Blaster 16 (PnP) isa driver for ALSA ...
[01:17] <Sean> I was checking
[01:17] <greg_> installing twm  i'll try that. if it flys i'll remove ub-desk and try again.   thanks for your time tho kemik & stianh
[01:17] <robbie_> yes i have already installed
[01:17] <crimsun_> jaro: is your cd player app configured to use analog or digital extraction?
[01:17] <robbie_> the latest samba
[01:17] <cafuego> Weighs in at 3 lbs ;-)
[01:17] <Sean> I am having no issues in my xorg log
[01:17] <void^> Vejito: use modinfo <name> to get info about available options
[01:18] <jaro> crimsun_: of course it's the analog way :)
[01:18] <cafuego> The sb16 would like irq, dma and io options.
[01:18] <void^> Vejito: i had to use something like isapnp=0 and give irq/io/dma settings
[01:18] <stianh> greg_, no worries
[01:18] <jaro> crimsun_: this is the reason it works I suppose.
[01:18] <crimsun_> jaro: so aplay doesn't give you anything at all?
[01:18] <jaro> But then I'm curious what coudl be the problem.
[01:18] <mrkoje> robbie_,  make sure its running:     chkconfig --list | swat
[01:19] <psycose> Vejito, i'm looking for the good howto to propose you ....
[01:19] <Vejito> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb
[01:19] <Vejito> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb
[01:19] <robbie_> ok
[01:19] <cafuego> mrkoje: What's that ugly redhat command doing on #ubuntu?
[01:19] <nickrud> lol
[01:19] <mrkoje> robbie_,  wait chkconfig isnt on ubuntu sorry
[01:19] <TigerDuck> how many "roots" are there on a standard ubuntu box?
[01:19] <mrkoje> cafuego,  sorry lol
[01:19] <robbie_> ya
[01:19] <jaro> crimsun_: apparently it does ;)
[01:19] <robbie_> i was getting error
[01:19] <mrkoje> cafuego,  I use both.... :(
[01:19] <Vejito> Psycose> Thanks ;)
[01:19] <cafuego> mrkoje: grep swat /etc/inetd.conf  (it doesn't run as a service)
[01:19] <psycose> void^, it's called  snd-sb16
[01:19] <robbie_> how do we do a private chat?
[01:20] <jaro> crimsun_: it seems that problem is close to resolution and I haven't noticed.
[01:20] <void^> psycose: looks like he doesn't have it then?
[01:20] <crimsun_> jaro: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:20] <psycose> void^, yes i'm looking for the up to date kernel compile wiki howto ...
[01:20] <robbie_> mrkoje
[01:20] <cafuego> psycose: make-kpkg --revision=hostname.X --initrd kernel-image
[01:21] <ub2> .m3u and .ram files aren't working.  tried installing mplayer from source and get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5  (but have libstdc++.so.6 in /usr/lib)
[01:21] <cafuego> you may beed a 'fakeroot' in there too
[01:21] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a such thing as a moving wallpaper
[01:21] <cafuego> Install mplayer from package and add the correct codecs, problem solved.
[01:21] <jaro> crimsun_: I've disabled the build-in soundcard so the problem with two s.cards is over.
[01:21] <TigerDuck> How come that doing a "su -" in a shell accepts my root password, but trying to start "Users and Groups" declines the exact same password?
[01:21] <viscount> the_mr_bong_show, you can set your screensaver as your wallpaper, does that count? :)
[01:21] <jaro> crimsun_: alsa works. (I haven't noticed though :))
[01:21] <ub2> cafuego: new linux user   are you talking about apt-get ?
[01:22] <cafuego> TigerDuck: Coz that use 'sudo' and not 'su' and as such wants your USER password.
[01:22] <psycose> cafuego, well it's for Vejito i'd prefer finding the howto thanks ;-)
[01:22] <cafuego> ub2: Indeed.
[01:22] <TigerDuck> cafuego: I see
[01:22] <cafuego> ub2: Installing from source is virtually never a good idea (especially for new users)
[01:22] <the_mr_bong_show> i just want my wallpaper to move like a flame to wave that sorta thing
[01:22] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: have another bong and wait 5 minutes... then check.
[01:23] <the_mr_bong_show> lol i dont smoke
[01:23] <ub2> cafuego:  I tried apt-get after uncommenting universe repositiories in /etc/apt/source.files    but get nothing for mplayer when doing  apt-get install mplayer  (also nothing for search)
[01:23] <cafuego> You'll need 'multiverse' then :-)
[01:23] <cafuego> !info mplayer
[01:23] <djk_> how do i get all files from a site with wget?
[01:23] <cafuego> !info mplayer-k7
[01:23] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[01:24] <cafuego> Yeah
[01:24] <viscount> the_mr_bong_show, http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=44
[01:24] <dbernar1> Does anyone use mutella? It does not seem to find any files here.
[01:24] <holycow> sanyone here have experience with parted?  does the target drive haveto have exactly the same number of sectors as the original drive from where the image was created?
[01:24] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:24] <TigerDuck> cafuego: ubuntu seems to have difficulties handling special characters as passwords
[01:25] <cafuego> TigerDuck: ctrl-F isn't a safe password.
[01:25] <TigerDuck> cafuego: what about $%&() ?
[01:25] <cafuego> TigerDuck: it probably depends on what you're using to input the password; in theory the libs are all 8bit safe, but in practice they may not be.
[01:26] <dbernar1> You know, rms at one point did not like passwords.
[01:26] <cafuego> TigerDuck: Better off sticking with 7bit ascii.
[01:26] <hypernewbie> cafuego , lol
[01:26] <TigerDuck> cafuego: I figured 8o)
[01:26] <Alchemist_> why do we need passwords ?
[01:26] <dbernar1> Alchemist_: so you dont erase my hard drive over the net.
[01:26] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the gconf-editor
[01:26] <TigerDuck> Alchemist_: because I don't want anyone from the Internet configuring my ubuntu box
[01:26] <Alchemist_> hasnt biometrics come far enough yet ?
[01:27] <hypernewbie> dbernar1 and how the hell u do that
[01:27] <dbernar1> the_mr_bong_show: Apps>Sys Tools> COnfig Editor.
[01:27] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: the Gnome equivalent of the registry editor.
[01:27] <cafuego> Alchemist_: nope
[01:27] <linlin> how do i mount my ntfs drive/partition in ubuntu?
[01:27] <Alchemist_> or my bluetooth cellphone knows im near my pc ?
[01:27] <dbernar1> I need to go, later.
[01:27] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, it allows you to change all the available properties of your particular desktop; it is not a registry equivalent
[01:27] <hypernewbie> linlin, ubuntuguide.org
[01:28] <sureshot> how can i install a rpm in ubuntu gnome
[01:28] <Alchemist_> find it odd the number of passwords you need to hardcode into config.php's ---- why bother?
[01:28] <cafuego> nickrud: it so is.
[01:28] <the_mr_bong_show> if i have my screensaver as my wallpaper that wont mess any thing up right
[01:28] <nickrud> hardware changes?
[01:28] <Vejito> Cafuego> For what I can find, it's more a multiple choice thing... :)
[01:28] <hypernewbie> linlin, sudo mount /dev/hda2 /folderpath -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[01:29] <Vejito> Cafuego> I don't seem to find any consistent DMA, IRQ and IO settings (wow this goes waaaay back to the DOS ages...)
[01:29] <psycose> Vejito, ok https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto is a good start point
[01:29] <Sean> Hey guys
[01:29] <Sean> good news
[01:29] <Sean> I fixed it
[01:29] <Eleaf> you guys, I need your help..
[01:29] <Sean> :D
[01:29] <Eleaf> i need hellpp
[01:29] <Eleaf> helllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[01:29] <Eleaf> lol
[01:29] <Vejito> Psycose> On my way ;)
[01:29] <Eleaf> elllpppp
[01:29] <hypernewbie> Eleaf <- furustratedubuntu ser
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Eleaf: realy?
[01:29] <cafuego> Vejito: Correct, you get to pick from sets of configs. Mine uses to be 5,1,5 0x220
[01:29] <MrProper_> Eleaf, then just friggen ask idiot
[01:29] <Eleaf> Kamping_Kaiser, hypernewbie MrProper_ hmm
[01:30] <Eleaf> MrProper_, there's no need to start name calling, sorry If I have annoyed you.  = p
[01:30] <Eleaf> ok
[01:30] <cafuego> Eleaf: Not spamming seems common sense.
[01:30] <Eleaf> My iBook just died after I did a dist upgrade
[01:30] <MrProper_> Eleaf, then dont be a knob and ask your question
[01:30] <Eleaf> MrProper_, cafuego ok
[01:30] <Eleaf> lol
[01:30] <hypernewbie> yay
[01:30] <MrProper_> Eleaf, elaborate on died
[01:30] <Vejito> Cafuego is that DMA16 - DMA8 - IRQ - IO ?
[01:30] <Eleaf> MrProper_, ok
[01:30] <cafuego> Died? Check the warranty.
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Eleaf: "died"?
[01:30] <Eleaf> Whenever it is loading
[01:30] <Eleaf> restarting
[01:31] <cafuego> Vejito: pretty sure, yes.
[01:31] <rikai> kernel panic?
[01:31] <Eleaf> once it gets to loading modules, it says a module is missing
[01:31] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when some of my screen savers are on they run slow
[01:31] <Eleaf> in the kernel
[01:31] <Eleaf> and it stops after that
[01:31] <cafuego> WHich module
[01:31] <Eleaf> do you want me to boot it up?
[01:31] <MrProper_> Eleaf, and which module might that be
[01:31] <Eleaf> here hold on a sec
[01:31] <cafuego> Also, from what to what did you dist-upgrade?
[01:31] <MrProper_> Eleaf, no i want you to throw your mac in the bin
[01:31] <Eleaf> MrProper_, no
[01:31] <MoonRanger> how do you get the trash icon back on the lower panel
[01:32] <cafuego> MoonRanger: right click, add to panel
[01:32] <punkrockguy318> how can i configure thunderbird to receive and send local mail/?
[01:32] <nickrud> MoonRanger, right click the panel, add the wastebasket
[01:32] <ub2> cafuego: I get two files returned when I do an apt-cache search mplayer and neither matches what you showed..  do I have to manually add other repositories besides what was in the /etc/apt/source.files  ?
[01:32] <nickrud> slooowww
[01:32] <user_> hellp
[01:32] <user_> hello
[01:32] <Vejito> Psycose> What are the risks involved in recompiling a kernel?
[01:32] <cafuego> ub2: Yes, you have to enable the 'multiverse' repository.
[01:32] <nickrud> !ask
[01:33] <ub2> I'll google it
[01:33] <ub2> tks
[01:33] <psycose> Vejito, When you will be at the step "Configuring the kernel" with make menuconfig , navigate thrue the menus to select your driver :     Device Drivers  ---> Sound  --->   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  --->    ISA devices  --->  [ ]    Sound Blaster 16 (PnP)    (select this entry as a module)
[01:33] <cafuego> ub2: When that's done, also check wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and grab the details for the 'w32codecs' package.
[01:33] <rikai> MrProper_, there's no need to be rude, jus because (s)he doesnt follow the completly proper way of doing things. ;)
[01:33] <ub2> tls
[01:33] <ub2> tks
[01:33] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when some of my screen savers are on they run slow
[01:33] <robbie_> how do i restart inetd?
[01:33] <cafuego> !tell ub2 -about repos
[01:33] <cafuego> robbie_: sudo killall -1 inetd
[01:33] <user_> root@host:/
[01:33] <Eleaf> the_mr_bong_show, if it is a 3d screensave, you might not have direct rendering running
[01:33] <user_> the char @ and h are overlapped
[01:33] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, they're probably the opengl ones, and you havent enabled direct rendering.
[01:33] <user_> in the command line
[01:34] <Eleaf> cafuego, by the way, I figured out the nfs problem
[01:34] <the_mr_bong_show> my video dont sopot opengl
[01:34] <psycose> Vejito, well no risk because if you fail somewhere you will be able to boot on another kernel and continue your kernel hacking ;-)
[01:34] <cafuego> the_mr_bong_show: then it's always going to be horribly slow
[01:34] <Vejito> i'm gonna do a copy/paste of this conversation for reference ;)
[01:34] <Eleaf> the_mr_bong_show, type glxinfo | grep "render" at the terminal
[01:34] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, then dont sue opengl screensavers.
[01:35] <Phocion> hey does Ubuntu not come with things like GCC by default?
[01:35] <the_mr_bong_show> well i got an opengl card but i dont know how to instal drivers on ubuntu yet
[01:35] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, what grahics card do you have?
[01:35] <Eleaf> MrProper_, cafuego, it's doing the hard drive check, hold on, after that I'll show the modules it's having trouble with
[01:35] <nickrud> Phocion, correct
[01:35] <Phocion> or did I just miss an installation option??
[01:35] <Phocion> geeze why??
[01:35] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, nvidia or ati?
[01:35] <Vejito> Cafuego> Is this the right command? -->  modprobe sb dma16:5 dma:1 irq:5 io:0x220
[01:35] <the_mr_bong_show> nvidia isnt in stalled
[01:35] <nickrud> the concept is, if you need that, you'll install it: most users don't need to compile
[01:36] <the_mr_bong_show> but the one i have runing is on the motherbord
[01:36] <nickrud> Phocion, apt-get install build-essential gets make, gcc, a few other things
[01:36] <ossie> hey , is psycose still here?
[01:36] <Pupeno> does anybody know the name of the channel about audio on linux ?
[01:36] <rikai> !tell the_mr_bong_show about binary drivers
[01:36] <psycose> ossie, may be
[01:36] <Phocion> yea i need to familiarize myself with APT
[01:36] <rikai> !tell the_mr_bong_show about binarydrivers
[01:36] <rikai> bah.
[01:36] <Phocion> I was used to SuSE's YaST
[01:37] <ossie> hows it going, just installed new kernel did reboot,
[01:37] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <nickrud> *plug* aptitude, Phocion
[01:37] <ossie> how the heck  do i find my drives ?? :)
[01:37] <Phocion> yea i know
[01:37] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[01:37] <Phocion> just got ubuntu installed on my laptop
[01:38] <psycose> ossie, sorry i don't think i can help you for this good luck
[01:38] <rikai> Pupeno, what about audio exactly?
[01:38] <nickrud> Phocion, that, and apt-cache search will help you find the stuff you need.
[01:38] <Psoriasis> I have a question.   How does a developer get his project considered for inclusion in the Ubuntu distro?
[01:38] <ossie> ok cheers :), it was succsefull , but i cant see nay signs of my drives , cheers psycose
[01:39] <Alchemist_> whats the project?
[01:39] <Pupeno> rikai: do you know more than one ? I was refering to #lad (I've found it by the way).
[01:39] <eXiTuS> hi
[01:39] <Phocion> nickrud: ok cool man thanks.  ill check that out.
[01:39] <Phocion> see ya
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Alchemist_: www.freshmeat.net/projects/idjc
[01:39] <nickrud> Psoriasis, talk to the people on #motu for that
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Is motu an acronym for something?
[01:39] <Alchemist_> done any live dj with it ?
[01:39] <ossie> I found them in the disks manager
[01:39] <Psoriasis> Yes
[01:39] <Pupeno> Psoriasis: masters of the univerese, afaik.
[01:40] <nickrud> masters of the universe , the guys that decide what's in the extra repos
[01:40] <Psoriasis> hmmm
[01:40] <Psoriasis> k thanks.
[01:40] <dotsony> i've got a machine with a dead installation of debian sarge, i use it for mythtv
[01:40] <eXiTuS> ulen ne oli
[01:40] <linlin> how good is ubuntu with working with external usb hard drives?
[01:40] <dotsony> i've got three partitions on the root drive
[01:40] <rikai> Psoriasis, #ubuntu-motu might be able to help.
[01:40] <dotsony> or actually pry more like 5 or six
[01:40] <soundray> linlin, works fine here.
[01:40] <nickrud> Psoriasis, that might be ... thanks rikai
[01:40] <Psoriasis> cheers
[01:40] <linlin> great
[01:41] <Alchemist_> linlin: I boot an ubuntu off a usb
[01:41] <linlin> does it work pug and play the same as windows?
[01:41] <dotsony> i want to replace debian with ubuntu but i don't want to clobber /home where i keep a bunch of media
[01:41] <linlin> plug*
[01:41] <cliff> edaf
[01:41] <eXiTuS> orospu cocuklari
[01:41] <eXiTuS> how are you ?
[01:41] <cliff> is there a spanish speakers chat room ???
[01:41] <Alchemist_> ci ci
[01:41] <dotsony> so my questoin is will the ubuntu installer give me a choice about formatting partitions if  i use the manual partitioning mode
[01:41] <nickrud> !es
[01:41] <cafuego> !es
[01:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <Eleaf> ubuntu-es
[01:42] <cliff> where is it ?
[01:42] <Eleaf>   /join #ubuntu-es
[01:42] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the sessions preferences
[01:42] <nickrud> cliff, see ubotu above
[01:42] <cliff> yeah
[01:43] <the_mr_bong_show> or wheres the sessions preferences
[01:43] <soundray> linlin, it works plug and play, but disk names and things like that are very different in Linux.
[01:43] <pashaw> dotsony,  yes
[01:43] <linlin> oh yeah i know
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <eXiTuS> YOU DEAD FUCK! )=>> #sexfuck
[01:43] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[01:43] <Alchemist_> bye bye
[01:43] <eXiTuS> x
[01:43] <linlin> lame ass
[01:43] <rikai> the_mr_bong_show, system > preferences > session
[01:43] <Eleaf> cafuego, MrProper_ It found some errors in the hard drive, hopefully fsck'ing (lol) them will help the problem....
[01:43] <soundray> linlin, don't sink to the same level.
[01:43] <Eleaf> hmm
[01:44] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[01:44] <holycow> anyone have experience with partimage? i'm curious if anyone has tips for restoring an image to a larger drive.  the basic steps here have been: 1. repartition larger target drive 2. restor partition info 3. restore image with partimage however the drives remain unbootable.  i'm just wondering if there are others with experience with such a meneuver
[01:44] <punkrockguy318> how can i send a local mail in ubuntu?
[01:44] <punkrockguy318> using the command line
[01:44] <linlin> hes sitting in the room all by himself :p
[01:44] <rikai> well, eXiTuS is still here? taking quite a time to get kick banned...
[01:44] <soundray> linlin, by default, Ubuntu is configured to make partitions on a USB disk appear on the desktop after plugging.
[01:44] <dotsony> pashaw: sweet
[01:44] <linlin> oh thats awesome
[01:45] <alberto> prova
[01:45] <soundray> linlin, do you think so? I turned it off first thing :)
[01:45] <cdubya> punkrockguy318, mail
[01:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey all, quick question I have never tried before. Can you remount / after a change to /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[01:45] <punkrockguy318> cdubya, mail: command not found
[01:45] <holycow> linlin, indeedy it is, it automounts all sorts of stuff, super easy
[01:45] <cdubya> heh
[01:45] <psycose> dotsony, as application configuration file content  may be different... pay attention to this aspect ...
[01:45] <rikai> thanks crimsun_ o/
[01:45] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, I think you can.
[01:45] <user_> the char @ and h are overlapped
[01:45] <user_> user@host:~$
[01:45] <rikai> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep, you can i believe.
[01:46] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, google mount remount
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, the procedure is not that different from chroot'ing.
[01:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> MrProper_, thanks lol
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, but it's been ages since I did an experiment like that.
[01:46] <user_> and ~ is substituted whid ''
[01:46] <rikai> The_Isle_of_Mark, 'sudo mount -a' i believe.
[01:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, live server...dont want to bring it down...and definately dont want to wreck it :)
[01:46] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, tough decision.
[01:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, yeah fo sho
[01:47] <rikai> oh, envermind, misundertood the question.
[01:47] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, can you not experiment with a redundant machine first?
[01:47] <rikai> *nevermind
[01:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, dont have any with the OS loaded
[01:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, would be a good idea except I have a runaway process filling up the drive slowly
[01:48] <pauli> hola
[01:48] <pauli> hay alguien?
[01:48] <cliff> yo
[01:48] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, type mount -o remount,rw /
[01:48] <pauli> quien yo
[01:48] <cliff> el resto son ingleses....
[01:49] <cliff> creo
[01:49] <pauli> queeeee?
[01:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> MrProper_, found some info thanks
[01:49] <pauli> di tu nombre
[01:49] <cliff> pos eso....
[01:49] <cliff> Clifford
[01:49] <cliff> tu ?
[01:49] <MrProper_> The_Isle_of_Mark, google? =)
[01:49] <pauli> paulina
[01:49] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, hope you can fix it.
[01:49] <cliff> rubio ?
[01:49] <cliff> xDD
[01:49] <pauli> de que pais eres?
[01:50] <servoeL> sup!
[01:50] <Eleaf> MrProper_, how are you feeling?
[01:50] <cliff> en teroia de espana... pero estoy en inglaterra por estudios....
[01:50] <servoeL> I got ubuntu (finally) connected to Wifi, and then irc (different comand formatting)
[01:50] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[01:50] <soundray> pauli, cliff, do you know where you are here?
[01:50] <MrProper_> Eleaf, short shrivelled and a little to the left
[01:50] <cliff> i do know
[01:51] <pauli> hablo  con cliff
[01:51] <cliff> but i cant get to the spanish site
[01:51] <cdubya> heh
[01:51] <cliff> 16
[01:51] <cdubya> man, my spanish is rusty.
[01:51] <cdubya> heh
[01:51] <pauli> habla en espaol
[01:51] <cliff> dice que su espanol es malo
[01:51] <cliff> o algo asi
[01:51] <pauli> no
[01:51] <cliff> i tu d dnd ers ??
[01:52] <soundray> cliff, all you need to do is enter /join #ubuntu-es
[01:52] <pauli> cuantos as tienes
[01:52] <spallen> ...
[01:52] <pauli> hola
[01:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> WHEW! ok so remount --help
[01:52] <cliff> ya te lo e dixo
[01:52] <cliff> 16
[01:52] <cliff> tu ?
[01:52] <pauli> yo 9
[01:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> that got me the info I needed
[01:52] <Evil_Whisper> hey guys
[01:53] <Eleaf> cafuego, MrProper_ I'm rebooting after the repairs, Wish me luck that it works!! = S
[01:53] <pauli> adios
[01:53] <picasso> hey guys. im trying to remove evolution from my system, but apt-get remove wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?
[01:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> was sweating there for a minute or two
[01:53] <picasso> this can't be right?
[01:53] <cliff> i tried... but it says it cant find it or something like that
[01:53] <pauli> te veo maana
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> you can remove it anyway picasso
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> it wont hurt anything
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[01:53] <cliff> a2
[01:53] <picasso> ah, just that it includes evolution?
[01:53] <Evil_Whisper> yep
[01:53] <nickrud> picasso, no big deal, really. ubuntu-desktop is a list of packages, not the desktop itself
[01:53] <picasso> k
[01:53] <picasso> just making sure :)
[01:53] <TigerDuck> thanks for the help ... good night everybody
[01:54] <Evil_Whisper> wow xchat-gnome is so much nicer then xchat regular :p
[01:54] <nickrud> picasso, when you upgrade to dapper, that might be an issue. If the package list changes ....
[01:54] <pauli> cliff
[01:54] <ricardo20> hi
[01:54] <picasso> hmm
[01:54] <picasso>  
[01:54] <dailyrorschach> any one in here running 5.10 with a dell latitude
[01:54] <Evil_Whisper> I always do a fresh install when upgrading versions
[01:54] <pauli> donde esta cliff
[01:54] <soundray> !anyone
[01:54] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:54] <rikai> #ubuntupeople/j
[01:54] <rikai> ack
[01:54] <nickrud> picasso, doesn't hurt to leave evolution around :)
[01:54] <rikai> sorry o/
[01:55] <ricardo20> hi how are every peolple
[01:55] <pauli> hola
[01:55] <ricardo20> wats hapend
[01:55] <rikai> dunno how that happend o.O
[01:55] <Evil_Whisper> just when you install all you have to do is make sure that your home directory is on a seperate partition :-)
[01:55] <dailyrorschach> ubotu: because my question regards the actual system not a specific problem, I had issues with ubuntu 5.04 and was trying to see if they had been resolved
[01:55] <ubotu> dailyrorschach: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:55] <pauli> habla en espaol
[01:55] <ricardo20> hola puli
[01:55] <nickrud> !myself
[01:55] <ubotu> nickrud: I don't know
[01:55] <Alchemist_> dailyrorschach - what is the problem?
[01:55] <pauli> hola
[01:55] <dailyrorschach> the problem I had with my dell laptop in 5.04 was terrible sound support
[01:55] <ricardo20> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:56] <ricardo20> de donde eres pauli???
[01:56] <pauli> cuantos aos tenes
[01:56] <dailyrorschach> and that's why I abandoned ubuntu, I'm an audiophile, I cant live without music
[01:56] <soundray> !you
[01:56] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:56] <ricardo20> 20 y tu???
[01:56] <pauli> chile
[01:56] <Evil_Whisper> Try Breezy Badger I think the sound has improved greatly since Hoary
[01:56] <defiance`> Heh! This is quite nice. Triple-screens :D
[01:56] <ricardo20> yo tambien soy de chile
[01:56] <niffe> how i can format cdrw disc in ubuntu?
[01:56] <ricardo20> soy de maipu-stgo
[01:56] <Eleaf> cafuego, ??
[01:56] <picasso> soy de california!
[01:56] <Alchemist_> dailyrorsahach - what sound hardware ess?
[01:56] <pauli> en que parte
[01:56] <ricardo20> maipu
[01:56] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at "Calculating module dependencies"
[01:56] <Eleaf> helpp
[01:56] <pauli> providencia
[01:56] <picasso> eleaf: turn up the heater?
[01:57] <picasso> bahahadhashdasdhfa
[01:57] <defiance`> How about talking english? :-P
[01:57] <Eleaf> ?..
[01:57] <ricardo20> que edad tienes???
[01:57] <Evil_Whisper> be right back guys
[01:57] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[01:57] <dailyrorschach> alchemist_: I haven't used it since summer, but I believe it was ess
[01:57] <ubuntu> hello
[01:57] <Eleaf> picasso, What do I do in a situation like this?
[01:57] <crimsun_> pauli: #ubuntu-es
[01:57] <picasso> make sure your media is intact
[01:57] <pashaw> this the spanish dating channel?  buot time i found it
[01:57] <pauli> yo 9
[01:57] <Eleaf> every time this has happend and I don't want to do this again..
[01:57] <ubuntu> I am in sesperate need of help in getting my filesystem online
[01:57] <Eleaf> i have to reinstall
[01:57] <ubuntu> I am booted from the live cd
[01:57] <ubuntu> will anyone help
[01:57] <soundray> ricardo20, pauli, picasso, cliff: your conversation is both off-topic and in the wrong language for this channel.
[01:58] <ricardo20> pauli tienes 9?????????
[01:58] <pauli> que
[01:58] <pauli> si
[01:58] <Evil_Whisper> back
[01:58] <pauli> y tu
[01:58] <steve_laptop> ? were is the sound modules.d file at? to manually edit it?
[01:58] <ubuntu> How can I run a fsck on my system?
[01:58] <ricardo20> pauli tienes msn????
[01:58] <nickrud> ubuntu, mount -t ext3 /dev/<dev> /mnt (for an ubuntu system)
[01:58] <pauli> si
[01:58] <picasso> soundray: uw moeder is een grasmaaier
[01:58] <Eleaf> MrProper_, ?
[01:58] <ricardo20> damelo te agrego y asi hablamos mas tranquilos
[01:59] <Evil_Whisper> try using man fsck
[01:59] <ricardo20> te prece???
[01:59] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at Calculating module dependencies...
[01:59] <Evil_Whisper> :-P
[01:59] <ubuntu> so mount -t reiserfs /dev/md0 /mnt ?
[01:59] <Eleaf> ahhhhhhhhh
[01:59] <pauli> paulinaurquizacaneo@hotmail.com
[01:59] <pauli> chao
[01:59] <Eleaf> ahh
[01:59] <pauli> cuantos aos tenes?
[01:59] <nickrud> ubuntu, well, I can't say a word about raid stuff (I think that's what that is, right :)
[01:59] <cartesian1984> how do i install something from a .deb file?
[02:00] <Eleaf> cartesian1984, sudo dpkg -i packagename
[02:00] <ubuntu> yeah, after i mount it like that i can run a fsck?
[02:00] <Kyral> sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>
[02:00] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, fsck on unmounted drives
[02:00] <MickMcMack> sudo dpkg -i pathto/blah.deb
[02:00] <cartesian1984> Ah, thank you
[02:00] <Eleaf> It keeps freezing at Calculating module dependencies
[02:00] <Eleaf> ahhhhhhh
[02:00] <ricardo20> ahi te agrege
[02:00] <pauli> chao
[02:00] <Eleaf> HELLP
[02:00] <Eleaf> '
[02:00] <pauli> cuantos aos tienes
[02:01] <ricardo20> 20
[02:01] <ubuntu> i'm confused :( sorry, here is the situation: My font dir got messed up during a crash, so X11 can no longer start
[02:01] <ricardo20> oye ya te agrege
[02:01] <pauli> chao
[02:01] <pashaw> Eleaf, are you trying to add something or just update?
[02:01] <ubuntu> I tried reinstalling the packages to no avail
[02:01] <ricardo20> agregame tu tambien porsiacaso
[02:01] <pauli> te veo maana
[02:01] <pauli> muac
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu try rebuilding your font cache
[02:01] <ricardo20> sandovalrb@hotmail.com
[02:01] <crimsun_> pauli, ricardo20: this is offtopic.
[02:01] <dailyrorschach> has anyone had success with ubuntu 5.10 with the dell latitude and running sound for media
[02:01] <Delvien> ilove it,... i call microsoft to activate my Win XP i installed on a Vmware machine and get some INDIAN DUDE that cant speak english
[02:01] <psycose> cartesian1984 man dpkg
[02:01] <Eleaf> pashaw, I'm just trying to boot
[02:01] <ricardo20> wats happend
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> lol
[02:02] <ubuntu> in the usr/share/X11/fonts dir if I do a ls i get all these errors saying to fsck
[02:02] <ricardo20> wats is the problem whit our lenguage
[02:02] <ubuntu> how would I run a cache rebuild?
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> hold on im checking
[02:02] <pashaw> Eleaf,  you mean this happened during initial install of ubuntu?
[02:02] <crimsun_> ricardo20: Use #ubuntu-es. This is an English-typing channel.
[02:02] <ricardo20> ok
[02:02] <ricardo20> bye
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> there you go ubuntu
[02:02] <Delvien> lol i hate when i call for support ( any company) and i get some indian out sourced call center
[02:02] <Eleaf> pashaw, no, I've had ubuntu running fabulous for half a year...
[02:03] <Eleaf> now it won't boot
[02:03] <Eleaf> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade and it won't reboot pashaw !
[02:03] <soundray> Delvien, you are off topic (apart from being xenophobic)
[02:03] <Kyral> Eleaf: what did you dist upgrade to>
[02:03] <pashaw> Eleaf,   lol  thats what i asked you   did you add someting or upgrade
[02:04] <ubuntu> ? what do you mean there you go? did i miss something? sorry
[02:04] <Evil_Whisper> yeah ubuntu run this
[02:04] <Delvien> soundray off topic ?  i will be off topic if i want to be :)
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, pashaw, it was from the origional kubuntu breezy preview
[02:04] <pauli> hola
[02:04] <Kyral> Delvien: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <Evil_Whisper> did you get that ubuntu?
[02:04] <Kyral> Eleaf: to?
[02:04] <soundray> Delvien, as far as I am concerned, this is the end of our conversation.
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, pashaw I just did a dist upgrade to update to a newer system
[02:04] <Eleaf> Kyral, Breezy to Breezy
[02:04] <Delvien> soundray bite me
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: can you get to the CLI?
[02:05] <Kyral> Eleaf: was a new kernel or anything installed?
[02:05] <ubuntu> no sorry
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> ubuntu run this: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[02:05] <ubuntu> k
[02:05] <ubuntu> i'll give'r a try
[02:05] <ubuntu> thanks a ton
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> alright no problem
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> just cmon back if it fails =P
[02:05] <Eleaf> Kyral, a new kernel wasn't installed
[02:05] <ubuntu> :) wish me luck
[02:05] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, no I can't!
[02:05] <nickrud> ubuntu, you can boot a live cd? then, man fsck.reiserfs is what you probably want to read
[02:05] <Evil_Whisper> Good Luck
[02:06] <Eleaf> It stops loading at CAlculating module dependencies Evil_Whisper
[02:06] <pashaw> Eleaf,  does it boot using recovery
[02:06] <Vejito> Going to sleep, it's 2am here...
[02:06] <Vejito> C y'all!
[02:06] <gandhii> anyone else have the problem of ubuntu install not being able to respond to keyboard at the first "language" menu screen in the install?
[02:06] <gandhii> or any ideas on why and how to fix it?
[02:06] <Eleaf> pashaw, how do i use recovery?
[02:06] <gandhii> its an amd64 nf4 system
[02:07] <soundray> gandhii, a USB keyboard?
[02:07] <Kyral> Eleaf: yanno when the thing "Loading Grub" thing comes up?
[02:07] <pashaw> Eleaf,  grub menu
[02:07] <gandhii> no.. standard ps2
[02:07] <Evil_Whisper> type recovery
[02:07] <Eleaf> pashaw, I don't have a grub menu, It's ppc
[02:07] <Eleaf> Kyral, there is no grub
[02:07] <Kyral> Eleaf: There HAS to be grub
[02:07] <soundray> gandhii, can you enter the BIOS setup?
[02:07] <Eleaf> Kyral, no there isn't its ppc
[02:07] <nickrud> yaboot, nalioth to the rescue. You around
[02:07] <gandhii> yea..
[02:08] <Eleaf> Kyral, that uses yaboot
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: Oh, then I have NO Idea
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: I know nothing about PPC :P
[02:08] <gandhii> running windows on that computer..   computer runs fine
[02:08] <Eleaf> they don't put a recovery kernel
[02:08] <Eleaf> it's really lame
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: At least the boot sequence
[02:08] <Kyral> Eleaf: I shall have to note this
[02:08] <gandhii> all hardware works fine
[02:08] <soundray> gandhii, have you tried entering the BIOS setup?
[02:08] <gandhii> yes..  have changed around keyboard related settings with no effect
[02:09] <Eleaf> Kyral, I don't know what to do...
[02:09] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[02:09] <pashaw> Eleaf,  have you added or removed any hardware lately?
[02:09] <soundray> gandhii, have you got any indication of whether the system is still running when it shows the keyboard language menu?
[02:09] <Eleaf> I couldn't do a reinstall, I have worked so hard for half a year or so to get this perfect
[02:09] <soundray> gandhii, (could have crashed)
[02:09] <Evil_Whisper> Download the live CD and boot from that and run sudo apt-get install -f and see if that helps
[02:09] <Eleaf> pashaw, no... theres not really anything to install on an ibook
[02:09] <pashaw> Eleaf,   is /home on its own partition?
[02:09] <Eleaf> pashaw, no
[02:09] <Kyral> Eleaf: The only thing I could do would be to mention putting in a recovery kernel in the PPC one
[02:10] <gandhii> no not really..  hard to say..  since everything supposedly would stop at the languagte selection menu.. anyway
[02:10] <pashaw> Eleaf,   you could always use a liveCD to copy off your /home settings
[02:10] <gandhii> yes..  could have crashed
[02:10] <Evil_Whisper> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso
[02:10] <Evil_Whisper> download the live CD there Eleaf
[02:10] <soundray> gandhii, have you got the live CD?
[02:10] <Eleaf> I have the livecd.. I think
[02:10] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, yea I believe i do!
[02:11] <Evil_Whisper> ok then just boot from that and run sudo apt-get install -f
[02:11] <SweetestSavage> Anyone got any experience with iptables ?
[02:11] <soundray> Nice intersection of two conversations...
[02:11] <pashaw> Eleaf, huh?   it wont boot either?
[02:11] <cliff> hi again
[02:11] <gandhii> yea..  have had this problem with both live and install for both kubuntu and ubuntu
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I think it was a hard drive problem though,
[02:11] <Eleaf> pashaw, what?
[02:11] <gandhii> ;] 
[02:11] <Evil_Whisper> You could also fsck it from the liveCD
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, because suddenly there were a whole bunch of errors
[02:11] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I fsck'd
[02:11] <pashaw> Eleaf,   sorry  ::P
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> Ok then after you fsck run sudo apt-get install -f this will fix broken packages
[02:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It was at the 30 boots so it did the hard drive check and found errors so I completed fsck
[02:12] <soundray> gandhii, how far does the live CD boot?
[02:12] <Eleaf> and then the problem got worse Evil_Whisper
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> hmm... have you tried sudo apt-get install -f?
[02:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, after the dist upgrade, it said I was missing kernel modules
[02:12] <gandhii> soundray: to the first menu.. where you choose language
[02:12] <gandhii> in all acases
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> wich kernel are you using?
[02:12] <Eleaf> ok, I'll try booting the live cd
[02:12] <Eleaf> I think it was 2.6.10
[02:12] <Evil_Whisper> I think you might be able to do this: sudo apt-get install linux-ppc
[02:13] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, would it install it on the hard drive?
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> this will install the PPC kernel
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> yeah
[02:13] <Eleaf> ok I'll try booting the livecd
[02:13] <gandhii> soundray: possibly hardware not supported?
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> that will install the PPC kernel to the hard disk
[02:13] <soundray> gandhii, that was a dumb question then - I thought the live CD didn't have that dialog. -- Do you have a different live Linux CD?
[02:13] <soundray> gandhii, I doubt that it's a hardware support issue.
[02:13] <Evil_Whisper> hold on Eleaf let me do an apt-cache search for linux-ppc
[02:14] <soundray> gandhii, with those, you usually get an error message from the kernel, not a silent hang/freeze.
[02:14] <gandhii> hm..  ubuntu and kubuntu...  but i guess those are the same at that stage..  also i think a version of morphix
[02:14] <gandhii> think i had a similar problem with that..   i should try it again
[02:14] <soundray> gandhii, have you tried console switching?
[02:14] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I think it's named something different
[02:15] <gandhii> sounray:  console switching?
[02:15] <nekostar> arg
[02:15] <nekostar> hey trying to set up the wine thing and cant get dcom98....
[02:15] <nekostar> any suggestions?
[02:15] <soundray> gandhii, I mean, pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2 at the dialog.
[02:15] <gandhii> soundray:  nope..  whats that suppose  to do?
[02:15] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah Eleaf try sudo apt-get install linux-ppc
[02:15] <soundray> gandhii, Linux (most distributions) has multiple virtual consoles.
[02:16] <Evil_Whisper> I use x86 so I'm not sure of the kernel package name for PPC
[02:16] <gandhii> ahh..
[02:16] <cafuego> linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc or somesuch
[02:16] <gandhii> something to try then
[02:16] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it won't boot the cd...
[02:16] <Eleaf> It says corrupt file system
[02:16] <gandhii> any other suggestions bnefore i reboot?
[02:16] <Eleaf> it was just working
[02:16] <soundray> gandhii, during Ubuntu install, you get different info and interfaces on the different consoles (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to -F4)
[02:16] <Evil_Whisper> Darn
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you hit tab on the yaboot screen?
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> that should give you a list of kernels
[02:17] <Evil_Whisper> check if there is more then one kernel
[02:17] <gandhii> ok...    thanks for the help..
[02:17] <soundray> gandhii, it would also be interesting to know whether the keyboard works at the kernel selection stage - i.e. can you select server install mode?
[02:18] <toby> Hi
[02:18] <kvidell> Speaking of Kernel's, what was updated that required me apt-get new kernel's today?
[02:18] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, ok I got it to work... for some reason, even though i specified cd, it launched into the harddrive's yaboot, it's trying to boot now though...
[02:18] <cached> guys i need help fast
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> hi toby
[02:18] <cached> this is really important
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> Ok
[02:18] <cached> i had a ton of work i accidently saved in /tmp/ directory
[02:18] <soundray> gandhii, check it out, hope you find a way to install.
[02:18] <gandhii> yes..  i presume you mean the point where you type in "live" etc...   if so..  then yes.
[02:18] <navarone> eleaf...maybe your hard drive has developed bad sectors?
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> If you can get into the LiveCD try to locate the PPC kernel package
[02:18] <cached> any way to recover it, i did not restart
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> I'm not sure of the name
[02:18] <Eleaf> navarone, It's a new hard drive...
[02:18] <Eleaf> and I did fsck
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> and then install it
[02:18] <cached> please, someone?
[02:18] <gandhii> it freezes or whatever at the next prompt/menu
[02:18] <nickrud> cached, then they should still be there: ls /tmp
[02:18] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf also hit tab when Yaboot comes up
[02:19] <toby> What is this?
[02:19] <Eleaf> i did
[02:19] <cached> its not though
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it's taking forever to load...
[02:19] <cached> i don't know what happened
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> Does it list any kernels?
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> when you hit tab?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, yes it does, but it's stuck on loading ramdisk
[02:19] <Evil_Whisper> alright what does it list on the menu when you hit tab?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it took like a minute just to get past that
[02:19] <toby> hi guys what is this window?
[02:19] <nickrud> cached, try sudo updatedb, then locate <file>
[02:19] <soundray> gandhii, are you on a laptop?
[02:19] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, all the kernels in the live disk
[02:19] <Eleaf> now I'm at the setup
[02:19] <navarone> cahced go to terminala nd use find or loccate to find specific file that you think is saved in tmp
[02:19] <gandhii> no..  nf4 amd64 desktop
[02:19] <Eleaf> choosing language etc Evil_Whisper
[02:20] <Evil_Whisper> Ok let me know when you can get into a CLI
[02:20] <izmeh> hello
[02:20] <pashaw> cached,   did you do this mistake using CLI?
[02:20] <aTypical> Hello all.  I'm having trouble with my usb drive.  I plugged it in and it appears to be detected, but it's not showing up or auto mounting like it did before.
[02:20] <cached> CLI?
[02:20] <Evil_Whisper> Command Line Interface
[02:20] <toby> there is any girl?
[02:20] <pashaw> cached,  terminal
[02:20] <cached> no
[02:20] <toby> in this room?
[02:20] <crimsun_> toby: offtopic.
[02:20] <soundray> gandhii, standard keyboard or some sort of mini/laptop-like?
[02:20] <cached> i did this by opening a file from firefox and editing it
[02:20] <cached> forgot to save it to a diffferent folder
[02:21] <pashaw> cached,  do you know at least 1 files name
[02:21] <cached> yes
[02:21] <soundray> gandhii, my thinking is that it could have to do with the NumLock state.
[02:21] <pashaw> cached,   find / -name (namehere)
[02:21] <gandhii> very standard keyboard..  tried 2 different ones..   it cant be the keyboard
[02:21] <izmeh> is mp3 support discussion allowed/
[02:21] <nickrud> !mp3
[02:21] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:21] <crimsun_> izmeh: only in the context of package discussion.
[02:21] <soundray> gandhii, that would be an odd one, anyway. NumLock state causing the problem, I mean.
[02:22] <Evil_Whisper> !ppc
[02:22] <ubotu> [ppc]  PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer then Intel.
[02:22] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I'm certain this is the livecd, but it's trying to install!!!
[02:22] <gandhii> sounds.. thats a thought..   i'll try toggleing that in the bios
[02:22] <cached> sudo find / -name ch9notes.doc should work?
[02:22] <cafuego> !ppc =~ s/then/than/
[02:22] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[02:22] <pashaw> cached,  also try  ls -al /tmp | more    and look that way
[02:22] <nickrud> someone's been brainwashing ubotu
[02:22] <gandhii> i've learned it sometimes helps to try the thing you think it couldnt be  ;] 
[02:22] <pashaw> cached,  sure
[02:22] <cached> i tried using the find thing under places
[02:22] <cached> it found nothing
[02:22] <frogzoo> Eleaf: if it's trying to install, it's not the live CD
[02:23] <Ophiocus> whats the best way to attempt to make a program like photoshop run on ubuntu?
[02:23] <cached> Eleaf: live CD looks like its trying to install though
[02:23] <cached> wine
[02:23] <cached> or just use GIMP
[02:23] <gandhii> or gimpshop
[02:23] <Eleaf> cached, frogzoo it says it's corrupt now
[02:23] <Eleaf> It was working fine
[02:23] <soundray> gandhii, I'm off. Do re-ask your question here, maybe you'll find more of an install problem wizard here next time.
[02:24] <Ophiocus> id rather not till i see what it can do, i need photoshop, will learn gimp/shop later
[02:24] <gandhii> thanks for your help..  if i have luck or not.. i have learneed a few things.. thanks
[02:24] <nickrud> gandhii, did you download and burn the install yourself?
[02:24] <gandhii> yes
[02:24] <cached> fuck shit fuck
[02:24] <Evil_Whisper> Ophiocus follow my wine tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=586605&postcount=6
[02:24] <cached> its not finding it
[02:24] <cached> NOOOOOOOOOOo
[02:24] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the livecd is corrupted
[02:24] <cached> didnt find it
[02:24] <nickrud> gandhii, then, maybe you could check the md5sum of the iso, it may be bad.
[02:25] <gandhii> same problem with ubuntu and kubuntu live and install  .. hard to beleive all are corrupt
[02:25] <awstott> gandhii how fast did you burn the cds/
[02:25] <frogzoo> Eleaf: download again - check the md5 sum of the iso b4 u burn - and try a slightly slower burn speed
[02:25] <nickrud> gandhii, it's an easy check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto?highlight=%28iso%29
[02:25] <awstott> I had problems using cheap cds
[02:25] <awstott> had to burn at 1x to get them to work
[02:25] <ThePyromaniac> hey, when running live CD on one pc it comes up with the error "Failed to started the X server... it is likly that it has not been set correctly"
[02:25] <ThePyromaniac> tried the same cd on this pc and it works
[02:25] <nickrud> gandhii, I've seen really odd things come down to burning too fast
[02:26] <Eleaf> frogzoo, the livecd was just working perfectly the other day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:26] <gandhii> a slower speed..  20x or such i think..
[02:26] <gandhii> not burnt too fast
[02:26] <Evil_Whisper> 20x isnt slow =P
[02:26] <nickrud> as best as I could tell from not being there :)
[02:26] <ascension> where is the ubuntu guide for 5.10?
[02:26] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: you might need to set vert & horiz refresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:26] <Evil_Whisper> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver or somthing like that I forgot the exact command
[02:26] <nekostar> WELL
[02:26] <Eleaf> frogzoo, this is so lame
[02:26] <nekostar> DONT GO TO WINE
[02:26] <nekostar> they suck ass
[02:26] <Eleaf> it was working just fine
[02:26] <nickrud> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <nekostar> mean motherfuckers
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> yeah thanks nick
[02:27] <nekostar> :/
[02:27] <apokryphos> language, geez.
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> :-O
[02:27] <awstott> lol
[02:27] <HymnToLife> anyone knows a good video editing app like Premiere for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <gandhii> well..  i guess i could try burning again..  but seems odd that 4 different burns would have the same problem at the same spot
[02:27] <ascension> so yes, where is the ubuntu guide for 5.10?
[02:27] <nickrud> well, hello, nalioth!
[02:27] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, Cinelerra!
[02:27] <frogzoo> what's with the gutter language in here today? seems a bit out of the ordinary
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[02:27] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[02:27] <ascension> Evil_Whisper: that is for 5.04
[02:27] <ascension> ...no one has updated it
[02:27] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: please dont advise that URL in here, it breaks things
[02:27] <nalioth> ascension: help.ubuntu.com
[02:28] <awstott> I broke my breezy install trying to get mythtv goin on it
[02:28] <gandhii> hym: theres a couple good ones..  do a google
[02:28] <HymnToLife> thx Eleaf :)
[02:28] <ascension> thank you nalioth
[02:28] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo how can i do that? its before i can log in
[02:28] <cafuego> frogzoo: xmas is approaching, it makes certain humans go insane for the duration.
[02:28] <ThePyromaniac> i still get shell
[02:28] <Evil_Whisper> Sorry about that I wasn't aware it wasn't updated for breezy
[02:29] <ascension> Evil_Whisper: the page that nalioth has the guide now :)
[02:29] <Evil_Whisper> oh thanks for the info I'll have to check that out then
[02:29] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone here have experience with IPTables?
[02:29] <alvanson> I'm looking to install ubuntu on my laptop alongside Windows.  I have an 80G hard drive.  Any suggestions on how I should split up the drive?
[02:29] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: you can get md5 for windows
[02:29] <gandhii> allright.;. .  off to give things another try   thanks.. and laterz
[02:29] <Evil_Whisper> Thanks for the updated link guys
[02:29] <nickrud> alvanson, for testing linux, give yourself 10GB. Plenty of room for experimenting
[02:30] <frogzoo> SweetestSavage: no, but I'll take a look if you like - Im just getting up to speed
[02:30] <awstott> anyone know why i'm getting an Internal error, HAL failed to initialize
[02:30] <HymnToLife> alvanson > depends on how much you need for windows
[02:30] <alvanson> HymnToLife, hmm... I mean my Windows install takes 10G now.
[02:30] <nickrud> me, I have about 15gb (prorated) for windows in that much space
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - Well, I need to make it so that a certain program points a certain IP to connect properly..
[02:31] <navarone> alvanson...i just reduced my windows partition to 17gb...from 33gb. The rest of my 40gb drive is for music shares
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> Right now it doesn't, it tries to connect to 52.0.0.0, and I need it to connect to 192.168.0.100
[02:31] <SweetestSavage> IPTables can do that somehow
[02:31] <Eleaf> Well, I guess I can't save my iBook
[02:31] <alvanson> okay... then can ext3 partitions be both moved and resized?
[02:31] <Eleaf> I can't believe this
[02:32] <nickrud> Eleaf, don't give up, ask again.
[02:32] <frogzoo> SweetestSavage: you can use NAT - but you really ought to just reconfigure the app
[02:32] <nekostar> !_!
[02:32] <ubotu> nekostar: What?
[02:32] <nekostar> sowwie
[02:32] <HymnToLife> alvanson > then give 20 GB for Windows, 10 GB for /, 1GB swap and the rest for /home
[02:32] <nekostar> mostly >_>
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - That's the problem..
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> frogzoo - You can't do that.
[02:32] <pashaw> Eleaf, the LiveCDs dont work either
[02:32] <nalioth> Eleaf: what is the trouble with your ibook?
[02:32] <Eleaf> nickrud, I just don't know what to do...
[02:32] <nickrud> Eleaf, ^^^
[02:32] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -d 52.0.0.0 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.100
[02:32] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo what? how is that helpful?
[02:32] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, you're a god.
[02:32] <Eleaf> nalioth, It won't boot past Calculating module dependencies after a dist-upgrade from breezy to breezy
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: Unless you just want to enable NAT inbound, in which case you didn't explain very well...
[02:33] <nalioth> Eleaf: what model ibook?
[02:33] <Eleaf> nalioth, umm...  ibook 500?
[02:33] <Eleaf> lol
[02:33] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: NAT = network address translation - have the app -> 52.0.0.0 -> NAT -> 192.168.0.0
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: We're monotheists here ;-)
[02:33] <pashaw> nalioth,  summary Eleaf has PPC ibook  wont boot install ubunut after his last  dist-upgrade    and now liveCDs wont boot either saying corrupted
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, Well, I just need it to redirect to a certain point
[02:33] <nalioth> Eleaf: did you verify your install media and iso image?
[02:33] <cafuego> And as such I should be accessed as THE god <heh>
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> xD
[02:33] <HymnToLife> from Breezy to Breezy
[02:33] <HymnToLife> that's a 1337 upgrade :p
[02:33] <Eleaf> nalioth, yes, the livecd just worked the other day too
[02:33] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: From where to where? net? Lan? Either?
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> Well, here's what happens.
[02:34] <Eleaf> for some reason, whenever I use a livecd after like 3 times it gets corrupted!!!!
[02:34] <Evil_Whisper> Try to use SSH to get into your iBook?
[02:34] <ThePyromaniac> frogzoo what?! im tlkin about x server failing on boot
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> Under a normal client for the game, it connects to the login server, but not the character or map (it goes to 52.0.0.0, from what I read).
[02:34] <nickrud> nalioth, not to interject too much, but he had a pre-release breezy, then dist-upgraded to recent breezy, and it broke (as I understand it)
[02:34] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, ???  It doesn't boot though!
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> And this is to connect to my own server, so I need it to connect to my IP, rather than 52.0.0.0
[02:34] <nalioth> Eleaf: can you get to a rescue terminal?
[02:34] <ProN00b> i need packages for wxwidgets and perl-wx, does anyone know the package names, or how to get the packages from somewhere
[02:34] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It certainly hasn't started any services like ssh...
[02:34] <ProN00b> ?
[02:34] <cafuego> SweetestSavage: Ok, so you need the desktop machine in question to do DNAT.... yeah, my rule should sort that out.
[02:35] <DShepherd> sup!! :)
[02:35] <Eleaf> nalioth, using the livecd I can... but that only has like 10 commands
[02:35] <Evil_Whisper> Oh yeah didn't think about that either sorry :(
[02:35] <Evil_Whisper> I'm just a newbie trying to help :-P
[02:35] <DShepherd> anyone know where I can find a yelp developer?
[02:35] <nalioth> Eleaf: not from the installed one?
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, it gave me an invalid argument error
[02:36] <ThePyromaniac> anyone else know why X server causes error message sayings its configured wrong on live cd boot?
[02:36] <Eleaf> nalioth, how do I get to a terminal from the hard drive?
[02:36] <MickMcMack> ProN00b, apt-cache search <searchitem>
[02:36] <nickrud> DShepherd, sure
[02:36] <alvanson> I was thinking 20G Windows, 10G Linux, 1G swap, remaining (~50G) for a FAT32 shared partition
[02:36] <pashaw> nalioth,   he's using yaboot   for boot manager any experience with that
[02:37] <ProN00b> MickMcMack, already searched, didn't find anything
[02:37] <Eleaf> nalioth, they don't put a rescue kernel with the ppc version for some reason... o.o;
[02:37] <Evil_Whisper> Pyro I belive you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix that
[02:37] <nalioth> pashaw: yes i'm familiar with yaboot
[02:37] <eobanb> Eleaf, i believe they do....
[02:37] <nalioth> Eleaf: can you use the liveCD and chroot into your installed box?
[02:37] <Eleaf> eobanb, looks like mine didn't come with it
[02:37] <pashaw> nalioth,   good thats where we were stumped helping him
[02:37] <eobanb> no i'm pretty sure they do, Eleaf
[02:38] <Eleaf> eobanb, looks like mine didn't come with one!
[02:38] <Eleaf> the only kernel mine has is
[02:38] <frogzoo> ThePyromaniac: try setting horiz & vert refresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - something like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6038
[02:38] <pashaw> alvanson,  thats an excellent layout
[02:38] <nalioth> Eleaf: eobanb: one what?
[02:38] <Eleaf> eobanb, "Linux" there is no other kernel with yaboot when I hit tab
[02:39] <Evil_Whisper> My breezy install got owned by dapper during a dist-upgrade and all I could do was re install :S
[02:39] <navarone> alvanson> My setup: Two drives 40gb and 250gb. 40gb has windows system..reduced to 17gb as I said. The remaining portion is fat32 shared for transfer or files and p2p shares. 250gb I partitioned with drives cd utils and made two ntfs partitions (80gb + 106gb) and a fat32 at roughly 32gb incase I want to image windows drive. The remaining 12+gb was left unallocated for ubuntu install
[02:39] <navarone> sorry for the long post...lol
[02:40] <mrgumble> list
[02:40] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, man..  I have so many files I need!  Important schoolwork and such..ugh
[02:40] <eobanb> Eleaf, there's some other way to get into it
[02:40] <Eleaf> eobanb, how do I use chroot?
[02:40] <Eleaf> the livecd has that command
[02:40] <nalioth> Eleaf: nothing is gone.
[02:40] <alvanson> navarone, spiffy... too bad it's a laptop... can't install new hard drives in there (and I spent my hard drive money for my file server over there -->)
[02:41] <anthony_> how do i unmount a harddrive through terminal
[02:41] <anthony_> ?
[02:41] <Stormx2> anthony_: umount
[02:41] <frogzoo> Eleaf: chroot is for fairly expert use - u don't need it
[02:41] <phasegen> does ANYONE know if you can copy "/var/cache/apt/*" to another machine to keep from downloading everything a second time?
[02:41] <Eleaf> frogzoo, well then how do I get into my hard drive?
[02:41] <Stormx2> phasegen: Can you see the other machine on a network?
[02:41] <anthony_> so if it was hda1 then it would be "umount hda1"
[02:41] <nalioth> Eleaf: /msg ubotu recover       will tell you how to chroot (you don't need to do anything with grub)
[02:41] <Stormx2> anthony_: more like umount /dev/hda1
[02:42] <anthony_> ohhhhhh
[02:42] <Stormx2> anthony_: or is it umount /media/whatever
[02:42] <Stormx2> I can't remember
[02:42] <Stormx2> oh well
[02:42] <Stormx2> Try both
[02:42] <anthony_> yeah thanks
[02:42] <anthony_> alot
[02:42] <Evil_Whisper> !recover
[02:42] <ubotu> recover is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:42] <Evil_Whisper> !chroot
[02:42] <ubotu> chroot is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:42] <phasegen> Stormx2: not at the moment, but I'm working the issue....  it's wireless.  I was planning on using a cd
[02:42] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[02:42] <Paradosso> I just installed the artwiz fonts
[02:42] <Paradosso> it seems they make firefox look crappy
[02:42] <Stormx2> phasegen: CD would be best.
[02:42] <Paradosso> how's that?
[02:43] <Evil_Whisper> wow I'm lost already just looking at the chroot page =S
[02:43] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I read the man page
[02:43] <phasegen> Stormx2: Sweet.  Thank You.
[02:44] <nickrud> cuz artwiz is crappy?
[02:44] <nalioth> Eleaf: when you get into your system via chroot, run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:45] <Evil_Whisper> nalioth could you fix a dapper install the same way?
[02:45] <Eleaf> nalioth, what am I supposed to do? chroot /dev/hda?
[02:45] <jag_fsf> i had two partitions, /dev/hdc1 and /dev/hdd1, that were in a software raid-1 array... i just reinstalled ubuntu and i'm trying to reassemble that array, but i'm not able to clearly see how to do it... and i'm terrified of losing data on the array... anybody know how to do this?
[02:45] <santiago> hello someone spanish?
[02:46] <frogzoo> santiago: -> #ubuntu-es
[02:46] <Burglaptop> santiago: try #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <pauli> hola
[02:47] <Eleaf> nalioth, what am I supposed to do with chroot
[02:47] <pauli> habla en espaol
[02:47] <Eleaf> nalioth, chroot /dev/hda?  it says that doesn't exist
[02:47] <pauli> chao
[02:47] <Evil_Whisper> pauli try joining #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> try /dev/hda1
[02:47] <pauli> hhn
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> actuyally ya got to Mount hda1 somewher, then chroot towhere ya mounted it to,.
[02:48] <user_> i have a printer
[02:48] <pauli> ricardo 20?
[02:48] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, it says that doesn't exist either
[02:48] <user_> how can i configure it?
[02:48] <Eleaf> /dev/hda2 3 or anything doesn't work Dr_Willis
[02:48] <user_> for adsl-connection i just runned pppoeconf
[02:48] <crimsun_> pauli: we've already stated that #ubuntu-es is appropriate.
[02:48] <user_> for the printer it simple procedure too
[02:48] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf you must mount it first
[02:48] <user_> ?
[02:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,   does fdisk -l   show any partitions?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> heh linux fundamentals.. mount drives to access them
[02:49] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, when I try mounting, it says that doesn't exist too...
[02:49] <Eleaf> pashaw, the livecd doesn't have the fdisk command
[02:49] <ricardo20> hola
[02:49] <ricardo20> alguien que hable espaol????
[02:49] <crimsun_> ricardo20: #ubuntu-es
[02:49] <Eleaf> omg
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Eleaf,  on live cd. to go the console as root run fdisk.
[02:50] <Evil_Whisper> sudo -s
[02:50] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, my livecd is corrupt
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Eleaf,  ewww...
[02:50] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, I can't load anything except the emergency console
[02:50] <Evil_Whisper> try chroot /
[02:51] <Eleaf> Dr_Willis, the livecd was just working, but of course, the livecd ALWAYS gets corrupt whenever I use it more than 3 times
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> I mean
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> /dev/hda
[02:51] <Eleaf> /dev/hda
[02:51] <Eleaf> it says /dev/hda doesn't exist
[02:51] <steve_laptop> ? is there a command that I can run that will reconfigure my sound card?
[02:51] <Eleaf> i can see /dev/hda3
[02:51] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > mount it first
[02:51] <Eleaf> but it also says that doesn't exist
[02:51] <Evil_Whisper> :-S
[02:51] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: what sound card(s)?
[02:51] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, when I try to mount anything, it says it doesn't exist
[02:51] <Eleaf> lol
[02:51] <steve_laptop> intel somthing
[02:52] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: cat /proc/asound/cards (don't flood here)
[02:52] <nickrud> /dev/hda1
[02:52] <steve_laptop> I wont
[02:52] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > what is the commant you type ?
[02:52] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you check your /mnt/ directory?
[02:52] <pashaw> Eleaf,   what directory are you trying to mount it to?
[02:52] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it says there is no /mnt
[02:53] <nickrud> lol, Eleaf, at least you're getting some serious moral support :\
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> :-S
[02:53] <Eleaf> yee!  Thank you guys!
[02:53] <burnhamd> should I download the 386 or amd64 dapper cd
[02:53] <steve_laptop> crimsun_, its a HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[02:53] <burnhamd> which is more stabe
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> Mine mounts my stuff to /mnt/<device>
[02:53] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: does it work at all?
[02:53] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it says /dev/hda (1,2,3) is not in /etc/fstab
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> ohhh a fstab problem
[02:53] <steve_laptop> crimsun_, no :(
[02:53] <aeon17x> !opera
[02:53] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:53] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: e.g., can you hear anything with aplay?
[02:53] <Evil_Whisper> ok hold on let me do some reading
[02:53] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > then you must specify the mounting point
[02:54] <steve_laptop> no
[02:54] <nickrud> Eleaf, try sudo fdisk -l ; that will tell you the partitions you have
[02:54] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[02:54] <steve_laptop> hold on
[02:54] <Eleaf> nickrud, the livecd doesn't have the fdisk command
[02:54] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf try this
[02:55] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it still says /dev/hda doesn't exist, even when I specify a mounting point
[02:55] <Evil_Whisper> cat /etc/fstab
[02:55] <Evil_Whisper> and tell us what that outputs
[02:55] <HymnToLife> you must tell him which partition you want to mount Eleaf
[02:55] <HymnToLife> so it is /dev/hdax
[02:55] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the livecd doesn't have the cat command
[02:56] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, there is no hda anything in /dev
[02:56] <ubuntu> hey
[02:56] <crimsun_> steve_laptop: paste the output from amixer onto pastebin
[02:56] <nickrud> Eleaf, my god
[02:56] <HymnToLife> sda maybe then
[02:56] <Eleaf> The livecd rescue terminal froze
[02:56] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, I know it's usually /dev/hda
[02:56] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf can you cat /etc/fstab?
[02:56] <Eleaf> the emergency console froze
[02:56] <user_> i have the printer: Epson Stylus Color DX4200
[02:56] <Evil_Whisper> oh thats not good Eleaf
[02:57] <user_> how can i configure it?
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> Can you reboot it?
[02:57] <steve_laptop> crimsun, were do i find that :)
[02:57] <Eleaf> and Evil_Whisper, cat isn't in the livecd rescue mode
[02:57] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > or do a sudo fdisk -l and you'll see what your hard drive is
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> can you nano fstab?
[02:57] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, yet,,, fdisk is not a command in the livecd rescue mode
[02:57] <ubuntu> is it possible to mount a ntfs drive with read/write from ubuntu live?
[02:57] <crimsun> steve_laptop: ''amixer''
[02:57] <nickrud> user_, start with top menu bar, System->Administration->Printing
[02:57] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it only has like 9 commands..
[02:57] <crimsun> ubuntu: read-only
[02:57] <Evil_Whisper> !ntfs
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu,  you dont want to write to one... it can trash the disk.
[02:58] <pashaw> Eleaf,   do you have ANY other liveCDs  say knoppix?
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> !NTFS
[02:58] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:58] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, I don't think the livecd has that evil tool
[02:58] <Eleaf> pashaw, no I don't...
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf do you have a CD burner?
[02:58] <HymnToLife> fdisk is for sure on ubuntu live CD :/
[02:58] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I do..
[02:58] <ubuntu> oh well poop...
[02:58] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf download somthing like damn small linux
[02:58] <HymnToLife> I used it a million times
[02:58] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I don't think they make that for ppc
[02:58] <Eleaf> lo
[02:59] <ubuntu> i need to fix windows, but i can't write to the drive
[02:59] <Evil_Whisper> Oh man I forgot  you using PPC
[02:59] <ubuntu> thought this would work
[02:59] <crimsun> steve_laptop: don't paste to me in private; use a pastebin.
[02:59] <frogzoo> cafuego: do you know if iptables is capable of mangling the TCP sliding window? for reverse b/w limiting?
[02:59] <nickrud> ubuntu, what do you mean, 'fix windows'
[02:59] <steve_laptop> crimsun, whats the pastebin? sorry
[02:59] <crimsun> !paste
[02:59] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:59] <Evil_Whisper> Can you burn a new Ubuntu liveCD?
[02:59] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[02:59] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, heyaz
[03:00] <ubuntu> nickrud, it's missing a vital dll for whatever reason
[03:00] <crimsun> occy: h.
[03:00] <crimsun> +i
[03:00] <ubuntu> so it won't boot
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, things finally seem somewhat stable
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[03:00] <occy> crimsun, back on gnome.  heh.
[03:00] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper,
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> can you run apt-get -f install?
[03:00] <anthony_> hello
[03:00] <occy> couldn't stay with KDE for more than 24hrs
[03:00] <Evil_Whisper> :S
[03:00] <anthony_> has anybody ever had their ntldr file fail
[03:00] <anthony_> ?
[03:00] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, not yet
[03:00] <nickrud> ubuntu, no, you can't use the live cd for that, sorry. (one of the few things I am certain about between windows and the live cd, thank you )
[03:00] <cafuego> frogzoo: Yes, it can do that.
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> how bout nano fstab?
[03:01] <cafuego> frogzoo: Usefulness would depend on upstream routers
[03:01] <iflipti> could someone decipher what this part from a readme means? ...
[03:01] <occy> crimsun, what I did was, I went into synaptic, and nuked all my entries to my sources.list,  and then added each of the binary options and checked all of the available solutions.  then upgraded and things are stable now.
[03:01] <user_> there is not my printer
[03:01] <anthony_> has anybody ever had their ntldr file fail?
[03:01] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:01] <user_> into the printer list
[03:01] <occy> thought I had done that before, but apparently it wasn't pulling in the security updates or some junk.
[03:01] <anthony_> how do you fix it if you dont have a floppy drive?
[03:01] <user_> there is much Epson but not my Epson
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> try sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:01] <Evil_Whisper> and see if theres anything in there
[03:01] <iflipti> "run make installfw which will copy files to FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR..."
[03:01] <anthony_> me?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  for windowsxp - the xp install cd has a rescue mode you can use 'fixboot'
[03:02] <occy> crimsun, I bet you there are a lot of people who would do what I didn't do.
[03:02] <occy> anyhoo
[03:02] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, the liecd doesn't have nano
[03:02] <anthony_> rescue mode
[03:02] <anthony_> ok ill try it
[03:02] <crimsun> occy: sounds good.
[03:02] <nickrud> user_, then maybe http://linuxprinting.org will have more help
[03:02] <anthony_> what if the CD wont boot
[03:02] <Evil_Whisper> does it have anything you can use to read files?
[03:02] <Evil_Whisper> I don't have a live CD for refrence so.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  sounds like you may be SOL. :()
[03:02] <anthony_> no!!!!!!
[03:02] <anthony_> lol
[03:02] <anthony_> lame
[03:03] <Evil_Whisper> I think you might have to just re install Eleaf
[03:03] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > gedit then
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Welcome to windows...
[03:03] <occy> crimsun, things got so bad, I nuked my sytem, tried gentoo, tried Suse 10.0, and tried kubuntu.  got fed up and came back to ubuntu and gnome,  figured I'd stick with the bugginess.  But, then I figured that out.  Things have been rock solid for like 4 days.
[03:03] <anthony_> ive been trying to put knoppix or ubuntu on
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  unless ya can track down a boot floppy that lets ya get to the cd. :(
[03:03] <anthony_> but the CD wont boot
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  Hmm.. has it ever booted off the cd?
[03:03] <anthony_> yeah all the time
[03:03] <anthony_> it used to
[03:03] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: Can you gedit /etc/fstab?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> double check the bios i guess..
[03:04] <occy> crimsun, anyway, I know you don't lay awake at night worrying about whether or not I am having problems but thought I'd share my thoughts with you. ;)
[03:04] <bachstudies> i've created a script that uses zenity. When I run my script within a shell everything works fine but when I use it in crontab zenity doesn't work. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:04] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, the livecd recover mode only has like cd, ls, chroot, passwd and that's pretty much it
[03:04] <docgnome> I'm trying to install the fglrx drivers for my ati radeon and I am having some trouble.  I follow the instructions on the wiki for "using the drivers from ati.com" and i get to the step where I do "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" and I get an ncurses UI. I then select the fglrx-kernel module and try to build it and it says "W: Unable to locate package syscalltrack-source" as well as a few other package names followed by "fin
[03:04] <docgnome> I'm running 5.04
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  when ran by cron the user and paths are different - may be the issue.
[03:04] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: Can you mkdri /mnt/ ?
[03:04] <Evil_Whisper> *mkdir
[03:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: try sudo mkdir /mnt/
[03:05] <HymnToLife> Eleaf > but why did you run it in recover mode ?
[03:05] <anthony_> Dr.Willis is there anything else you suggest?
[03:05] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I did
[03:05] <anthony_> if the Cd wont boot and no floppy
[03:05] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, because the livecd is corrupt
[03:05] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, I have made sure that my paths are absolute e.g. sh /home/chris/file.sh
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  no other cd drives eh?
[03:05] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it was working fine the other day then it suddenly doesn't work
[03:05] <anthony_> nope its a laptop
[03:05] <crimsun> occy: glad to read they've been resolved (fingers crossed)
[03:05] <nameeate1> !repo
[03:05] <ubotu> nameeate1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:05] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: After you've done that type mount /dev/hda /mnt
[03:06] <steve_laptop> crimsun ok its posted
[03:06] <crimsun> steve_laptop: any progress? Pass me the url when you've finished.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  even paths in the script eh? since $PATH may be different.  may be permission issues then
[03:06] <nameeate1> hmm, whats the repo's ! command?
[03:06] <dpupp> im in the process of partitioning my disks after windows messed up grub.. is it possible to mount my windows harddrive in linux as well? im seeing that i can mount it as ntfs in the partition window...
[03:06] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, this has happend to all my ubuntu cd's after precisely 3 times using them, they get corrupt, every time!
[03:06] <docgnome> anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I did that, but /dev/hda doesn't exist
[03:06] <HymnToLife> funny...
[03:06] <nameeate1> !apt
[03:06] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:06] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, It just doesn't think the harddrive exists!
[03:06] <nameeate1> !repos
[03:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:06] <steve_laptop> crimsun ok  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6039
[03:06] <anthony_> Dr_willis, the only Cd that will boot everytime is the KNOPPIX live CD
[03:06] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: try cd /dev/
[03:06] <nameeate1> woo there we go
[03:06] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, I have run it in root's crontab so there shouldn't be a problem on that front, right?
[03:06] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: then ls
[03:07] <Evil_Whisper> do you see hda in the /dev/ folder?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  i was thinking that cron ran as its own userid/groupid  (i may be wrong)  time to rtfm :P
[03:07] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, there's nothign
[03:07] <Eleaf> lol
[03:07] <Evil_Whisper> aw thats not good Eleaf
[03:07] <Eleaf> well there is like ram
[03:07] <anthony_> Dr_willis, the only Cd that will boot everytime is the KNOPPIX live CD
[03:07] <Eleaf> and a bunch of other random stuff that doesn't have to do with a hard drive
[03:08] <Evil_Whisper> hmmmmmm
[03:08] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I know everything with the hard drive is FINE but just ONE file is missing...
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  that sounds like your cd/burning software/disks are the iossuie
[03:08] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, it was one kernel module, and it can't boot without it..
[03:08] <docgnome> Does anyone have any experience installing the fglrx driver in 5.04?
[03:08] <mcjerry> what program can i run on ubuntu that would be similar to ms frontpage?
[03:08] <anthony_> Dr_willis,hmmm nero 7, always have worked
[03:08] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, do you know if there is a command that I can use in the script to open up a terminal window and have the commands run in the terminal?
[03:09] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf
[03:09] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> anthony_,  could be bad disks..
[03:09] <anthony_> that what i thought
[03:09] <anthony_> the knoppix live was on different media
[03:09] <user_> someone have the printer: Epson Stylus DX4200 ???
[03:09] <anthony_> good sugestion
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  could echo/cat stuff to log files somewhere. ive rarely done more then trivial things with cron.
[03:09] <apokryphos> mcjerry: WYSIWYG editors generally suck and produce crummy code. But, there's bluefish, I believe, which is one.
[03:09] <crimsun> steve_laptop: is this on Breezy?
[03:09] <HymnToLife> nope
[03:09] <docgnome> Or alternatly, does anyone know if the fglrx driver installs easier into 5.10
[03:09] <HymnToLife> Bluefish is no WYSIWYG
[03:10] <Evil_Whisper> For WYSIWYG use NVU
[03:10] <anthony_> thanks Dr_Willis
[03:10] <steve_laptop> crimsun, yes
[03:10] <nickrud> mcjerry, I've never used frontpage, but nvu is as close as it gets, i hear
[03:10] <nickrud> mcjerry, but, I recommend screem
[03:10] <crimsun> steve_laptop: default sound drivers, correct?
[03:10] <HymnToLife> screem is no wysiwyg either
[03:10] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, hmm
[03:10] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:11] <morten> ok, so i've downloaded a theme for gnome, how do i "install" it?
[03:11] <apokryphos> html takes a few hours to learn; not hard at all.
[03:11] <steve_laptop> crimsun, think so
[03:11] <nickrud> HymnToLife, I do know that
[03:11] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf, so nothing is mounted at all?
[03:11] <bachstudies> Dr_Willis, my script works when I use the "run as different user" from the Ubuntu menu so surely there is a way to "run as different user" without going though the ubuntu menu
[03:11] <crimsun> steve_laptop: "think so"? You need to be certain.
[03:11] <mcjerry> nickrud: i got bluefish, ad screem, and both are fine for coding, i need a graphical editor....will tryout nvu
[03:11] <nameeate1> bachstudies: su -username?
[03:11] <steve_laptop> im not
[03:11] <steve_laptop> hold on
[03:11] <apokryphos> mcjerry: for coding Quanta+ is the best ;-)
[03:11] <nameeate1> man su anyway
[03:11] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf next install be sure to make home a seperate partition incase this occurs again :-)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bachstudies,  of course there is. this is linux.. :P gotta figure out exactly the best way to do it for your case.
[03:12] <nalioth> mcjerry: but there are other programs for coding, use them all, and keep using the ones you like
[03:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, well it's just one file...
[03:12] <bachstudies> nameeate1, can I run this command within a .sh script? Will it bring up a terminal window?
[03:12] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, what was the command you were saying to do.  apt-get install -f?
[03:12] <mcjerry> apokryphos: is Quanta+ in synaptic or do i need to compile from source?
[03:12] <nameeate1> bachstudies: that I don't know ;)
[03:12] <nalioth> mcjerry: it is in synaptic
[03:13] <mcjerry> nalioth: same for nvu?
[03:13] <nameeate1> i know you can make stuff run in anouther 'shell' but dunno how you would make it open anouther terminal window
[03:13] <apokryphos> mcjerry: yup
[03:13] <HymnToLife> mcjerry > yes
[03:13] <pashaw> Eleaf, my vote goes for having a friend burn you  2 diff liveCDs   say 1-ubuntu and 1-knoppix    then  have a go  before the reinstall wipes it
[03:13] <nalioth> mcjerry: yes if you're running breezy
[03:13] <markive> Wassup all
[03:13] <SweetestSavage> Is there anyone here that is good at hexing?
[03:13] <mcjerry> dapper
[03:13] <nalioth> mcjerry: then of course
[03:13] <jag_fsf> looking for suggestions... if (don't ask why) /var/run/sudo doesn't exist and i haven't set a root password, how can i do something as root to correct /var/run/sudo not existing?
[03:13] <Eleaf> pashaw, I have a cd burner
[03:13] <sethk> SweetestSavage, you now have a hex on you
[03:14] <crimsun> steve_laptop: just cat /proc/asound/version
[03:14] <pashaw> Eleq youve already admitted yours fail too often have a friend burn em
[03:14] <SweetestSavage> o.O
[03:14] <pashaw> Eleq   oops
[03:14] <SweetestSavage> Not that kind of hexing =P
[03:14] <nalioth> Eleaf: and md5sum your iso image
[03:14] <Eleaf> pashaw, at least I have my main ubuntu computer, this one.  But my iBook is important whenever I have to go places
[03:14] <Toma-> is the ogm format supported by xine/mplayer etc by default?
[03:14] <sethk> jag_fsf, you can create the directory, sure
[03:14] <HymnToLife> and burn at low speed
[03:14] <Eleaf> nalioth, I md5'd this livecd, it was fine and worked fine
[03:14] <Toma-> being an open format i should hope so
[03:14] <jag_fsf> sethk: how, if not as root?
[03:15] <markive> i made ubuntuburn a cd on k3b on this d600 laptop, i didn't think it would work straight out the box but it did :)
[03:15] <nickrud> and, finally, md5sum the cd itself
[03:15] <Eleaf> nalioth, but whenever I use any ubuntu cd more than 3 times, it gets corrupted, I have NO idea how..
[03:15] <nalioth> Eleaf: humor us, burn it on another burner at the lowest speed possible
[03:15] <nalioth> Eleaf: and md5sum the iso image also
[03:15] <Eleaf> nalioth, I've used two burners actually'
[03:15] <Eleaf> lol
[03:15] <sethk> jag_fsf, you said "how could I do something as root ..." when you meant "how can I become root to do something"
[03:15] <Eleaf> but why would it work only 3 times nalioth ?
[03:16] <markive> i've been out wardriving tonight
[03:16] <vblanton> Anyone know why I can view my apache2.0 webserver on any computer in the house but no one outside the house (past the router/firewall) can see my website? I have enabled port forwarding of PORT 80 on my router/firewall
[03:16] <Eleaf> I was able to use the livecd fine before
[03:16] <sethk> jag_fsf, you fix that by booting a rescue cd, or the install cd in rescue mode
[03:16] <nameeate1> bachstudies: man gnome-terminal, there is an -x (excecute option)
[03:16] <Khisanth> Toma-: haven't had any problem playing OGM in mplayer with default options :)
[03:16] <nalioth> Eleaf: i have no clue. try different blank media
[03:16] <Toma-> Khisanth: cool thx :)
[03:16] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  this whats came from that command  - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9
[03:16] <jag_fsf> sethk: yes... physical access to the machine will be difficult... :-)
[03:16] <nickrud> vblanton, maybe your isp blocks 80?
[03:16] <mcjerry> also meant to ask, what program would you recommend i use to edit flash files with? I need to make changes to a flash site
[03:16] <Kyral> nickrud: What retarded ISP blocks port 80?
[03:16] <Toma-> mcjerry: have you got dreamweaver?
[03:16] <nalioth> mcjerry: windows or OSX
[03:16] <nickrud> Kyral, I had one, not any more
[03:16] <crimsun> steve_laptop: ok, it looks like you need to use Dapper's ALSA driver
[03:16] <vblanton> nickrud: maybe... but would I be able to connect to my own website with my public ip if it did?
[03:17] <sethk> jag_fsf, that may be there isn't an alternative.  I don't think sudo will let you override the location of the directory
[03:17] <vblanton> Kyral: an isp that doesn't allow webservers
[03:17] <jag_fsf> ... shit.
[03:17] <dooglus> bachstudies: all you need to do is: "su username /path/to/script"
[03:17] <crimsun> steve_laptop: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 fakeroot
[03:17] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what do you want hexed?
[03:17] <Kyral> vblanton: No offense but thats retarded ;P
[03:17] <ProN00b> some isp's use nat technology, which means 0 ports
[03:17] <crimsun> steve_laptop: also install module-assistant
[03:18] <mcjerry> nalioth, haven't booted to windows in over 2 weeks.....trying to go strictly dapper on this pc
[03:18] <Toma-> my isp blocks port 21 for nasty ftp virii
[03:18] <nickrud> vblanton, I got a virtual server out in space just because of that problem
[03:18] <vblanton> Kyral: No it isn't. I have a satellite service and its would be reasonable if they didn't want to lag down the lines any further with a web server
[03:18] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok
[03:18] <Kyral> vblanton: Ah
[03:18] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - It's a client exe
[03:18] <nalioth> mcjerry: there is no flash editor available at this time for linux   f4l.sourceforge.net is the closest thing
[03:18] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what do you need to do?
[03:18] <Eleaf> my isp blocks most ports, it's really annoying they should all be open but they think we need extra firewall protection or something
[03:18] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - It doesn't connect to the right IP, it has to connect to three IPs, they're all the same value, but my client only connects to the first one then goes to 52.0.0.0
[03:18] <Toma-> mcjerry: how much space did the default dapper install take up?
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - My reason for this, is there IS a client that does this.. but it's very old and quite useless
[03:19] <nameeate1> i do not need the source repo's in my sources.list do i? they arn't anything important right?
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I need an updated client that's able to do this..
[03:19] <mcjerry> Toma- lemme look....i got some video recordings from vdr lemme do the math
[03:19] <nickrud> nameeate1, not really no.
[03:19] <nameeate1> nickrud: coo thx
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I would imagine it's not that hard, I wouldn't have an idea, though. Would you like to take a look?
[03:19] <bachstudies> dooglus, ok some detail...I am running clamAV and have it set up to scan my home dir every morning at 10am. My script basically calls clamscan and then reads the resulting log file and uses zenity to display the results in a popup message. The problem is that the message won't pop up if I run the script outside of a terminal window.
[03:19] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: and where does 'hexing' fit in?  I'm not with you yet...
[03:19] <izmeh> is it possible to access the partition that my OSX uses/
[03:19] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - You have to modify the client.exe file to make it connect to all 3 IP's properly
[03:20] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - Otherwise you have to do an IPTable, which I can't do in a chroot =P
[03:20] <dooglus> bachstudies: that's because the script doesn't have the right "X Authority" settings
[03:20] <bachstudies> dooglus, ok how would I go about making this work?
[03:20] <nalioth> bachstudies: yes it is, mount using the hfs+ flag
[03:21] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok done with that part
[03:21] <bachstudies> nalioth, ??? what is a hfs+ flag?
[03:21] <dooglus> bachstudies: look at this script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6040 - if you run it in a terminal which *can* make X windows, it will write the values you need into ~/.xsettings
[03:21] <MarcN> postfix isn't sending email off my system.  Do i really need to do all the mucking the wiki talks about?  I've dpkg-reconfigure postfix and pointed to a local smarthost.
[03:21] <dooglus> bachstudies: get your other script to source .xsettings and then it, too, will be able to make X windows.
[03:21] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - I can send you both the client that works (but is too old) and the new one that doesn't work
[03:21] <nickrud> *postfix sucks
[03:21] <nalioth> bachstudies: open a console and type "man mount" OSX uses hfs+ filesystem
[03:21] <nameeate1> why am i getting errors updating my apt-get list?Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:22] <crimsun> steve_laptop: now, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[03:22] <nickrud> MarcN, which wiki?
[03:22] <bachstudies> nalioth, I think you are talking to the wrong person!!!
[03:22] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: these are windows .exe files?  How do you intend to understand them?  You plan to disassemble them?
[03:22] <user_> into one directory i have much file.tar
[03:22] <MarcN> nickrud: wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix
[03:22] <user_> how can i decompress all packages ?
[03:22] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - They are windows exe files.. and, I can't understand them. I use WINE in a 32-bit chroot to run them.
[03:22] <user_> tar -xf *
[03:22] <user_> that do not work
[03:22] <nalioth> bachstudies: tryin to teach ya something, lol
[03:22] <sethk> nameeate1, that would mean that you have a corrupted archive, or a permissions failure somewhere
[03:23] <sethk> nameeate1, corrupted archive is more likely
[03:23] <nalioth> izmeh: mount it using the hfs+ flag in your mount command
[03:23] <nameeate1> sethk: so what can i do? purge the whole lot and start again?
[03:23] <Toma-> anyone know how much space dapper takes up after a default install?
[03:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: if you don't have either (1) the source, (2) a good knowledge of disassembling .exe files or (3) a tame hacker, then I don't see what you can do
[03:23] <nickrud> MarcN, that is really overkill, isn't it:)
[03:23] <markive> whats the best wardriving tool out there?
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> back
[03:23] <MarcN> nickrud: sendmail is easier ;-)
[03:23] <mcjerry> Toma-: is hard to say, i installed breezy on 27G partition, have 1.2G swap partition. after installing breezy, changed to dapper sources and did apt-get dist-upgrade. now have 19GB free space after adjusting for a few recordings on root partition
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf any progress?
[03:23] <bachstudies> nalioth, but i don't even run OSX!!!!!!!!
[03:23] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - Obviously, that's why I'm seeing if someone else knows how to hex clients..
[03:23] <sethk> nameeate1, I would try, first, deleting that specific file (the one in the error message) and doing apt-get update
[03:23] <Toma-> mcjerry: oic
[03:23] <MrRio> when will WxWidgets start to be compiled against GTK2 instead of GTK1?
[03:24] <nameeate1> sethk: ok thanks
[03:24] <nalioth> bachstudies: <hint> <hint> it is xmas time, you know.
[03:24] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: ah, I see.  you might be better off in a windows channel then, if you're wanting to hack a windows .exe
[03:24] <_jason> user_ why the *, just use the filename: tar xf filename.tar
[03:24] <nameeate1> sethk: err, where are they stored? :)
[03:24] <Toma-> mcjerry: you cleaned out your breezy for dapper? :/
[03:24] <nickrud> MarcN, a personal opinion: install exim4-daemon-light, set it up as a smarthost, then edit /etc/exim4/passwd.client. If all you want is to send mail from your box, that's the easiest
[03:24] <SweetestSavage> dooglus - Alright, thanks
[03:24] <user_> _jason,
[03:24] <user_> gh!!
[03:24] <_jason> user_ gh?
[03:25] <mcjerry> Toma-: yea, other than a few application crashes, dapper stable enough here
[03:25] <sethk> nameeate1, let me see if I can find the file
[03:25] <user_> if i try to user
[03:25] <user_> use
[03:25] <user_> tar -xf *
[03:25] <nameeate1> sethk: thanks
[03:25] <MarcN> nickrud: I'll give it a go.
[03:25] <user_> what you thing^?
[03:25] <nameeate1> ah here we go, in the apt-get man
[03:25] <Evil_Whisper> Did eleaf leaf?
[03:25] <Evil_Whisper> *Leave?
[03:25] <nickrud> MarcN, I've been using that config on a user box for several years
[03:26] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: there's a linux hex editor called 'hexcurse' - but that won't help if you don't know what bits you want to edit
[03:26] <user_> is ridicle use tar -xf file.tar
[03:26] <user_> for all package
[03:26] <_jason> user_ I guess you can do 'tar xf *.tar' if you like
[03:26] <nameeate1> actually nope that isn't it
[03:26] <viscount> Anyone familiar with the tar -G flag?
[03:26] <sethk> nameeate1, look in /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com ....
[03:26] <user_> tar -xf *.tar
[03:26] <user_> that is not correct to
[03:26] <mcjerry> Toma-: running as main fileserver, ubuntu-desktop/gnome and vdr for satellite tv - - all is fin
[03:26] <mcjerry> fine
[03:26] <user_> too
[03:26] <crimsun> steve_laptop: any progress?
[03:27] <Toma-> vdr?
[03:27] <|GaiJin|> is there some webcam support in gaim??
[03:27] <sethk> user_, tar -xv is not correct.  gnu tar tolerates it, but the correct syntax is   tar xf
[03:27] <bachstudies> nalioth, you have lost me. It is late so it might be me but I doubt it!
[03:27] <dooglus> user_: just "tar xf <tarfile>" to extract tarfile.  you can't specify multiple tar files at the same time
[03:27] <_jason> sethk may i /msg you please
[03:27] <sethk> user_, sorry, I wrote xv once instead of xf
[03:27] <sethk> _jason, sure
[03:27] <mcjerry> Toma-: look in synaptic for vdr
[03:27] <Toma-> ok!
[03:27] <MarcN> nickrud: heh, just lost what was in the mailq.   i should have figured that.
[03:27] <sethk> user_, those are not flags, they are commands (in a very primitive language) to tar
[03:27] <dooglus> sethk: the - is fine - but it changes the meaning a bit.
[03:27] <mcjerry> but compile latest package from sources...
[03:27] <nalioth> bachstudies: have a merry xmas, i mistakeny <tab>completed your nick
[03:28] <sethk> dooglus, you may be thinking about - being used for standard in or out.  that's a different situation
[03:28] <nickrud> MarcN, ouch
[03:28] <bachstudies> nalioth, you too. Maybe it is time to buy OSX after all
[03:28] <sethk> dooglus, tar -xf is never correct, and the - is ignored
[03:28] <mcjerry> Toma-: for more info on vdr, look on irc.uicn.net #vdr
[03:28] <dooglus> sethk: no, I'm thinking about the difference between "-xf" and "xf"
[03:28] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  grrrr im missing somthing                     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6041
[03:28] <Toma-> oooo DVB cards... like tv capture cards?
[03:28] <viscount> user_, what are you trying to do?
[03:28] <dooglus> sethk: if that was the case then "tar fx" and "tar -fx" would both work
[03:28] <MarcN> nickrud: it was only a couple of nautilus bug reports.
[03:28] <nickrud> MarcN, well, actually if you didn't purge postfix, the messages may still be there. Getting them is another story :)
[03:28] <mcjerry> Toma-: do you have windows dual-boot?
[03:28] <Toma-> nope
[03:29] <MarcN> nickrud: I just did a apt-get install of exim...
[03:29] <user_> i try to uncompress al package
[03:29] <sethk> dooglus, f is special because it associates with a filename
[03:29] <user_> all
[03:29] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  do I need the souirce?
[03:29] <user_> not 2 or 3
[03:29] <mcjerry> yea, DVB, similar to tvcapture
[03:29] <dooglus> sethk: but "tar -fx file.tar" files, whereas "tar fx file.tar" works
[03:29] <user_> all
[03:29] <aTypical> Hey all.  Can someone point me to a howto for upgrading from 5.10 to 6.4?
[03:29] <Toma-> cool
[03:29] <steve_laptop> source
[03:29] <nickrud> MarcN, then, no purge. look in /var/postfix or something, I would think
[03:29] <mcjerry> sTypical: pm me
[03:29] <crimsun> steve_laptop: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:29] <dooglus> sethk: s/files/fails/
[03:29] <mcjerry> Toma-: where you live?
[03:30] <markive> nickserv
[03:30] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok next?
[03:30] <MarcN> nickrud: at the rate that nautilus crashes, i'll be able to regenerate those bug reports in no time.
[03:30] <_jason> markive do that in a server window
[03:30] <nickrud> lol
[03:30] <viscount> user_, probably need to do some scripting then, i think tar only works with one archive at a time
[03:30] <markive> _jason thanks
[03:30] <sethk> dooglus, I guess I'm being overly pedantic, as people here rarely have to deal with genuine unix tar
[03:30] <user_> for i in *.tar ; do tar xf $i ; done
[03:31] <dooglus> sethk: there are 3 different option styles.  run "info tar styles" to read about them
[03:31] <_jason> user_ I thought tar could take multiple files?  tar xf *.tar didn't work?
[03:31] <markive> i give in
[03:31] <user_> no
[03:31] <sethk> _jason, what did you expect that to do?
[03:31] <crimsun> steve_laptop: so alsa-source is installed?
[03:31] <user_> i need use a for
[03:31] <user_> for i in *.tar ; do tar xf $i ; done
[03:31] <markive> anyone else wardrive with ubuntu?
[03:32] <mcjerry> Toma-: do you have satellite tv now?
[03:32] <dooglus> user_: for i in *.tar; do tar xf "$i"; done      is better.  that works when there are spaces in the filenames, too
[03:32] <user_> but the . is useless
[03:32] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  yes
[03:32] <user_> just *tar not *.tar
[03:32] <crimsun> steve_laptop: sudo adduser $USER src
[03:32] <_jason> sethk I expected it to untar all the files but apparently it won't take multiple files
[03:32] <sethk> user_, there could conceivable be a case where he wants *.tar, not *tar
[03:33] <dooglus> _jason: if you say "tar xf file.tar a b c" it will only extract a, b and c from file.tar.  the a, b and c arguments refer to contents of file.tar - they aren't treated as tarfiles themselves
[03:33] <crimsun> steve_laptop: then log in on a virtual console (ctrl+alt+F1); you can switch back here with alt+F7
[03:33] <_jason> dooglus ah I see
[03:33] <sethk> _jason, right.  a file list in that context would be a list of file name to _extract_ from one tar file
[03:33] <DShepherd> dooglus: thanks. learnt something today :)
[03:33] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok and what is it I need to do in the virtual?
[03:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: what?
[03:34] <DShepherd>  "tar xf file.tar a b c"
[03:34] <DShepherd> and what it does
[03:34] <DShepherd> dooglus: thanks
[03:34] <user_> yes of course
[03:34] <user_> when you have 1000 file.tar
[03:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: ok.  learn "info" too.  like "info tar".  it's how the GNU apps are documented
[03:35] <user_> tar -xf 1 2 3 4 .... 1000
[03:35] <DShepherd> dooglus: yeah I know about info. Thanks for the info about info anyways
[03:35] <dooglus> user_: if you don't specify anything other than the tarfile, like "tar xf tarfile", it will extract the whole tarfile
[03:35] <parti> hello all
[03:35] <nameeate1> sethk: I now have: Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch :/
[03:36] <parti> Can you read this?
[03:36] <crimsun> steve_laptop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[03:36] <dooglus> we can, parti
[03:36] <dooglus> hi
[03:36] <parti> ok, looks like I am coneccted! yey!
[03:36] <nickrud> hi, parti
[03:36] <steve_laptop> ok
[03:36] <sethk> nameeate1, that's definitely a corrupted file, presumably a corrupted download
[03:36] <Krhis> ts
[03:36] <QQ_ghost> i have a friend with a SATA hda and linksys wireless (desktop/not PCMCIA) is the install easy?
[03:36] <parti> Guys. I am currently running Ubuntu Live CD.
[03:36] <Krhis> Sorry. ^^
[03:36] <sethk> nameeate1, there must be a reason you are getting corrupted files.
[03:36] <parti> I nned thy helo
[03:36] <parti> help
[03:36] <sethk> nameeate1, once could be a glitch, but not this
[03:36] <nameeate1> :/
[03:36] <parti> Hi dooglus and Nickrud :)
[03:36] <dooglus> keyboard problems, parti?  :)
[03:36] <nameeate1> anyway to purge the whole list and start again?
[03:37] <nameeate1> before it was gz files, now its md5
[03:37] <parti> no. Partition problemes, dooglus.
[03:37] <sethk> nameeate1, well, it is _still_ a gz file, only now it catches the problem sooner
[03:37] <pashaw> parti,  just ask
[03:37] <user_> but tarfile is not one
[03:37] <parti> I am using GParted.
[03:37] <sethk> nameeate1, md5sum is used to verify that something was correctly downloaded
[03:37] <nickrud> nameeate1, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* will remove all the downloaded lists
[03:38] <user_> file1.tar  file2.tar file3.tar ...... file100.tar
[03:38] <dooglus> user_: what's the problem exactly?  you have 1000 tar files?
[03:38] <sethk> nameeate1, an attempt to uncompress would have given you the message about gz again
[03:38] <user_> now there is not problem
[03:38] <parti> I want to resize mi Paritition. I want to give mroe space for my Ubuntu
[03:38] <nameeate1> this sucks, it worked fine before :(
[03:38] <user_> for i in *.tar ; do tar xf $i ; done
[03:38] <user_> i used that
[03:38] <sethk> nameeate1, try nickrud's suggestion.  It isn't a fix, but the result would be illuminating
[03:38] <nickrud> parti, I'm not to strong on parted, but there are people here who are. Ask, using details :)
[03:38] <parti> but, Gparted tell me that I am appling to a Busy devices.. when I try to resize my Windows XP with NTFS filesystem
[03:38] <nameeate1> ok
[03:38] <dooglus> user_: that's fine, so long as none of the files have a space or a tab in their name.  if they do, you'll need to say "$i" instead of $i
[03:39] <parti> Yes Nickrud :)
[03:39] <parti> As I was saying. Gparted tells me that the device is busi. SO I cannot apply the resizing.
[03:39] <parti> What should I do ?
[03:39] <sethk> dooglus, user_, and watch out for filenames with ' in them, which happens in windows
[03:39] <dooglus> parti: what did you boot from?  a CD, or what?
[03:39] <parti> a Live CD.
[03:40] <nickrud> sethk, I've actually fixed weird auth problems by doing that :)
[03:40] <dooglus> sethk: that's not a problem if you use    tar xf "$i"
[03:40] <mcjerry> how can i read/write to ntfs filesystem if am read only now with dapper?
[03:40] <parti> I'm booting from Ubuntu's LIVE CD
[03:40] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  ok thats done but a no go so im going to try rebooting
[03:40] <crimsun> steve_laptop: no, don't reboot
[03:40] <steve_laptop> ok
[03:40] <crimsun> steve_laptop: we're not even close to being finished.
[03:40] <pashaw> parti,   did you try and look at your windows files before you started the partition program  you know looking around
[03:40] <sethk> dooglus, right, I should have said filenames with ", not with '
[03:40] <steve_laptop> :) sorry
[03:40] <crimsun> steve_laptop: tell me precisely what occurred
[03:41] <dooglus> sethk: that's not a problem either :)
[03:41] <parti> what do you mean pashaw ?
[03:41] <sethk> dooglus, it is if you don't escape the quotes
[03:41] <pashaw> parti,   do you have a window open showing your ntfs files
[03:41] <parti> if you mean that I started Windows before running the Live CD, then yes.
[03:41] <parti> I defragmented it.
[03:41] <steve_laptop> it ran I pick all the default settings and when it was done I ended up at at command line
[03:42] <steve_laptop> crimsun, it ran I pick all the default settings and when it was done I ended up at at command line
[03:42] <sethk> why do people defrag?  I've done extensive testing, and defrag does nothing to improve performance in almost all cases.
[03:42] <nalioth> parti: what problems are you having?
[03:42] <viscount> Can anyone helpme with creating incremental backups?
[03:42] <nickrud> defrag before repartitioning? makes sense ;P
[03:42] <parti> Well, I've read in the Ubuntu forums, that it is best to defrag Windows, before making resizing the partition.
[03:43] <sethk> nickrud, if you mean resizing partitions, then it might make sense
[03:43] <parti> That is was I defregmented it.
[03:43] <sethk> parti, I never trust partition resizers, but I'm paranoid
[03:43] <steve_laptop> viscount, I can but its going to be a but 30min...
[03:43] <nickrud> viscount, take a look at sbackup. it's a simple backup solution, that uses incremental backups. Also, there's some howto's on tldp.org
[03:43] <parti> The problems I am facing is that I don;t know how to resize partitions...
[03:43] <crimsun> steve_laptop: no, here are the choices to pick: answer "yes" to Plug n' play, "yes" to debugging symbols, deselect "all" and select "hda-intel", then save & exit
[03:43] <dooglus> sethk: if you're doing <<<for i in *.tar; do tar xf "$i"; done>>> then the filenames can have anything they like in them I believe
[03:44] <nickrud> sethk, uh, that is what I meant, but didn't say.
[03:44] <nalioth> parti: if you've started the LiveCd, and run "sudo gparted" then it should be self-explanatory
[03:44] <parti> Yeah, I think I don't trust it either.. but.. I must give it a chance. becuase I don't ahve any space at all in my Ubuntu partition
[03:44] <parti> and thus, it dosn't allow me to save anything.
[03:44] <steve_laptop> crimsun, ok will reduo it
[03:44] <viscount> nickrud, I know about it, but Im trying to learn how to do it myself
[03:44] <sethk> parti, make sure the partition is backed up before you resize
[03:44] <viscount> nickrud, i know about sbackup i mean..
[03:44] <pashaw> nalioth,  she said it displayed  drive in-use  when she tried to apply changes
[03:44] <nickrud> viscount, then take a look at the howtos on tldp.org (the linux documentation project)
[03:44] <nalioth> pashaw: then parti is not using the LiveCD, it sounds like
[03:45] <parti> Well, the thing is that I cannot back it up. Since I don't have any spaces at all :( I cannot even burn a CD, since it also requeres to have spaces for the cache I believe
[03:45] <mcjerry> Paragon 7tools Partition Manager is about the most reliable partition utility i have used
[03:45] <nalioth> parti: if you have no free space, your partition resizing is not gonna go well
[03:45] <anthony> hey
[03:46] <pashaw> parti,  you cant resize a drive if its full
[03:46] <parti> I'm runnign from a Live CD Nalioth. I'm pretty sure about it. )
[03:46] <parti> oh... man...
[03:46] <dooglus> parti: I had a problem with gparted giving me an odd error message.  It might have been the same one you're seeing.  The solution was to go back to windows and repair the small error that was on the NTFS partition
[03:46] <parti> Well, I want to GIVE MORE spaces to Ubuntu
[03:47] <sethk> parti, can you temporarily use the ubuntu space for resizing?  back up the ubuntu partition, then restore it?
[03:47] <parti> the error that was on NTFS partition? I didn't get a single error...
[03:47] <pashaw> parti,  boot windows and find out how much free space your NTFS drive reports
[03:47] <nickrud> what's the fdisk command for deleting a windows partition again?
[03:47] <dooglus> parti: I didn't either until I ran "chkdsk/f" in windows.  the regular scanner didn't find it, but gparted did, and couldn't fix it
[03:47] <parti> My NTFS partition has like 28 GB of free spaces
[03:47] <anthony> does anyone here know about mysql?
[03:47] <parti> and my Ubuntu has 1 GB of free space
[03:48] <anthony> im trying to start it, but it continues to fail
[03:48] <user_>  /etc/profile
[03:48] <user_> that is the file for global configuration of bash
[03:49] <parti> mm...
[03:49] <user_> if i have that
[03:49] <nickrud> user_, yes.
[03:49] <steve_laptop> crimsun, ok done
[03:49] <mcjerry> parti, can you still boot to windows?
[03:49] <pashaw> parti,   is windows running right now  with the LiveCD in a window?
[03:49] <user_>  ~.bashrc is not required?
[03:49] <crimsun> steve_laptop: now, sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[03:49] <user_> the global file is sufficent?
[03:49] <dooglus> user_: /etc/profile only runs for login shells.  most people don't run login shells
[03:49] <nickrud> user_, a second. Let me find you a link that explains how all those files fit together.
[03:50] <user_> no no
[03:50] <parti> No.
[03:50] <user_> i search
[03:50] <parti> I've chuted down WIndows
[03:50] <steve_laptop> crimsun, building now
[03:50] <user_> you find english site
[03:50] <user_> i'm italian
[03:50] <user_> :P
[03:50] <sproingie> anthony: try #mysql
[03:50] <viscount> nickrud, I guess I'll have to write my own howto after I figure this out
[03:50] <parti> before I turned on the conputer and loged to the Live CD
[03:50] <dooglus> user_: read the 'bash' manual.  go to the end, then back a page or two.  you'll see a list of the files it uses in the 'FILES' section.
[03:50] <dooglus> user_:        /etc/profile
[03:50] <dooglus>               The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells
[03:51] <steve_laptop> crimsun, loading and done
[03:51] <crimsun> steve_laptop: cat /proc/asound/version
[03:51] <dooglus> user_: if you want a file which is used by *every* bash, for every user, use /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:52] <viscount> steve_laptop, well I've got the time if you do
[03:52] <steve_laptop> crimsun, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[03:53] <parti> BRB. I'm going to try again.
[03:53] <viscount> steve_laptop, when you do incremental backups do you use tar? with -G -g  thats what Im trying to figure out
[03:53] <nickrud> viscount, there should be a good howto already on that site, I'm sure I got my backup scheme from there
[03:53] <crimsun> steve_laptop: good. Now paste the output from amixer onto pastebin again.
[03:53] <niffe> steve_laptop: what was the program you say was good with wifi?
[03:53] <steve_laptop> viscount, you can also go to #scalug and talk to bob I think he can help you to .....
[03:53] <viscount> nickrud, yeah there is a few, but not what im looking for
[03:53] <maddash> Everybody, a YONAH laptop is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[03:54] <dooglus> maddash: a what?
[03:54] <steve_laptop> niffe wlassistant
[03:54] <nameeate1> sethk: I know have 5 with errors ;)
[03:54] <niffe> ok
[03:54] <steve_laptop> crimsun, ok
[03:54] <sethk> nameeate1, what's going on, do you know?
[03:54] <servoeL> Question: Building dependency tree... Done
[03:54] <servoeL> Package sysv-rc-conf is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:54] <servoeL> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:54] <servoeL> is only available from another source
[03:54] <servoeL> E: Package sysv-rc-conf has no installation candidate
[03:55] <servoeL> :/
[03:55] <nickrud> user_, if you're still here, I'm still looking I found a great one yesterday, I swear :)
[03:55] <nameeate1> sethk: I have absolutely no idea, when i used to ssh into this box it used to work
[03:55] <user_> :)
[03:55] <maddash> dooglus: Yonah! on a laptpo!!!
[03:55] <maddash> dooglus: laptop*!
[03:55] <sethk> nameeate1, sounds like it's been hacked, although I doubt that is really true
[03:56] <dailyrorschach> anyone know where I can find the list of repositories to use for breezy, and where to download the multimedia codecs
[03:56] <steve_laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6043
[03:56] <nameeate1> sethk: I doubt that aswell ;)
[03:56] <sethk> nameeate1, multiple corrupted files is just such a bizarre thing
[03:57] <nickrud> user_, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_01.html
[03:57] <nameeate1> sethk: its back to just those original 2 now
[03:57] <_jason> ubotu tell dailyrorschach about multimedia
[03:57] <crimsun> steve_laptop: does aplay give you anything?
[03:57] <steve_laptop> hold on
[03:57] <WebLOCH> hey guys
[03:58] <nickrud> ubotu tell dailyrorschach about repositories
[03:58] <nameeate1> sethk: could it be because i have very limited ram?
[03:58] <aTypical> Hello, WebLOCH
[03:58] <WebLOCH> Ive checked man before you tell me to, but I just downloaded something that is in about 10 zip files, but the unzip command doesn't seem to cater for split zips, can anyone help ?
[03:58] <WebLOCH> aTypical, hey
[03:58] <sethk> nameeate1, it's possible, if programs crash in the middle of things because of the memory limit
[03:58] <sethk> nameeate1, and the programmers were very, very lazy
[04:00] <dooglus> does the mplayer-plugin for firefox play .wav files correctly?  it doesn't for me.  it seems to load them, but I don't hear anything.
[04:00] <finalcut> anyone have a minute to help me with mp3 burning?
[04:00] <dooglus> an example: http://slovnik.seznam.cz/sound/A/A4694.WAV
[04:00] <DonVincenzo> hi, I would like to completely supress windows from my pc, and I need some information to carry this one. I thought that I should suppress the ntfs partition, and the GRUB entries.Are there other operations to do ?
[04:01] <dooglus> an example: http://slovnik.seznam.cz/sound/A/A4694.WAVD#
[04:01] <dooglus> oops
[04:01] <dooglus> DonVincenzo: other than the filesystem and the bootloader that should be it
[04:01] <azuron> Can Ubuntu be installed offline??
[04:01] <DonVincenzo> ok
[04:02] <crimsun> azuron: yes.
[04:02] <pashaw> DonVincenzo,   supress?  you mean hide the windows install?
[04:02] <azuron> If I wanna install packages like GCC G++
[04:02] <dooglus> azuron: that's the usual way
[04:02] <crimsun> azuron: hence why it's 1 CD.
[04:02] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  grrr not getting anything and my wife going to be here in 10 so will have to finsh tomorrow if thats ok
[04:02] <azuron> crimsun, How to do that please?
[04:02] <finalcut> has anyone in here used serpentine or gnomebaker to burn audio cds from mp3s?
[04:02] <crimsun> steve_laptop: np, I'm outta here myself.
[04:02] <dooglus> azuron: I don't think you get g++ on the install media
[04:02] <azuron> But what should I do if I wanna install GCC and G++?
[04:02] <nickrud> azuron, apt-get install build-essential
[04:02] <steve_laptop> crimsun,  thanks AGAIN!!!
[04:03] <azuron> nickrud, Can I use that option offline??
[04:03] <azuron> dooglus, Can I download the packages to somewhere and install from hard disk?
[04:03] <nickrud> azuron, hm, you can try. I would expect that to be on the cd
[04:03] <azuron> nickrud, Cool, let me do it.
[04:04] <dooglus> azuron: sure.  go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , find the packages you need, including all the dependancies, and use "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>" on each of them
[04:04] <nickrud> of course, I'm net enabled, so am very fuzzy where the cd ends and the net starts
[04:04] <markive> is there any extra repostitorys i can add? maybe for some more gnome stuff or wireless bluetoothe etc
[04:04] <azuron> dooglus, Is there a document on how to do it detailed please? I have never done such a thing before :)
[04:05] <user_> i'm creating a minimal distribution and i need a bashrc and bashprofile
[04:05] <user_> that do not need strange thing
[04:05] <dooglus> azuron: I don't know of one, but I've not looked.
[04:05] <dooglus> azuron: are you on ubuntu at the moment?
[04:05] <markive> _jason are you here?
[04:05] <jaakko> Hi guys, do you think one would be able to install Ubuntu & Gnome on 256 megs?
[04:05] <_jason> markive yes
[04:05] <azuron> dooglus, Nope, but another machine next to me is running Ubuntu
[04:05] <nickrud> user_, the ones that come with ubuntu are extremely minimal
[04:05] <markive> can you pm me
[04:05] <markive> please
[04:06] <servoeL> I need help with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6044  sysv-rc-conf
[04:06] <servoeL> cant find it?
[04:06] <_jason> markive ask your quesiton here.  If I don't know you'll have almost 600 other people taht can help
[04:06] <pashaw> jaakko,   ??? RAM you mean right   yes
[04:06] <dooglus> jaakko: memory? yes.  disk? no.
[04:06] <azuron> dooglus, Where should I put the *.deb if I have downloaded them? to make Ubuntu find them?
[04:06] <nickrud> !tell servoeL  about repositories
[04:06] <jaakko> pashaw, dooglus: I'm talking 'bout disk space, not ram :)
[04:07] <_jason> markive you're asking about extra repositories.  Have you enabled multiverse and universe?
[04:07] <nickrud> servoeL, the message you got will tell you how to enable the repos that have sysv-rc-conf
[04:07] <dooglus> azuron: put them anywhere on the machine - let's say your Desktop.  then run a terminal window, type "cd ~/Desktop" in it, then type "sudo dpkg -i gcc-4.0-blah-whatever.deb"
[04:07] <pashaw> jaakko,   no   youll need one of the much smaller distros
[04:07] <markive> _jason ah ok  , i'm still strugling to register my nick , i've read the instructions, but i'm not that bright..:(
[04:07] <azuron> lol dooglus ^_^ thank you very much!!!
[04:07] <markive> _jason yeah i added them
[04:08] <dooglus> azuron: if you already have a machine running the same version of ubuntu which is net enabled, install the packages you want in it, and you'll be able to find them in the package cache - so you don't have to hunt down the dependancies
[04:08] <jaakko> pashaw: I need a disto fitting 256 CF card (for silent HTPC) and I just love Ubuntu :)
[04:08] <_jason> markive /msg nickserv register THE_PASSWORD_YOU_WANT_HERE
[04:08] <azuron> dooglus, Really?? Where can I find the pak cache??
[04:09] <dooglus> azuron: the package cache is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:09] <steve_laptop> viscount, look here see if anything is help full my wife called and 10 min out shit im going to do the dishes :)
[04:09] <azuron> Thank you!!!!
[04:09] <dailyrorschach> anyone know how to get the quicktime codecs?
[04:09] <dailyrorschach> and so on
[04:09] <_jason> markive then once you register you type the following to identify yourself: /msg nickserv identify THE_PASSWORD_YOU_CHOSE
[04:09] <dooglus> azuron: glad I could help
[04:09] <nickrud> !tell dailyrorschach about restricted
[04:09] <viscount> steve_laptop, eh?
[04:10] <azuron> dooglus, I really appreciate your help! :) Have a nice day, or night
[04:10] <markive> it says i'm already registered
[04:10] <dooglus> azuron: I'm not sure what the best way of installing them is
[04:10] <markive> am i?
[04:10] <azuron> dooglus, I dont want the best solution, I want the workable solution ^^
[04:10] <dooglus> azuron: I'm guessing that dpkg might get a bit angry if you try installing a package before its dependancies
[04:10] <azuron> and I think it's easy enough
[04:10] <markive> ahh
[04:10] <steve_laptop> viscount, LOLOL http://www.linux-backup.net/App/
[04:10] <azuron> sure
[04:10] <markive> i need to remember the password
[04:10] <dooglus> azuron: I guess then just install them in alphabetical order over and over until they work.
[04:11] <pashaw> jaakko,  distro watch   should give you some small distro options
[04:11] <markive> crap
[04:11] <markive> is there a password reset?
[04:11] <nickrud> azuron, wiki.ubuntu.com/PersonalRepositories has a simple way to make your own package cache
[04:11] <azuron> dooglus, How can I know the right order to install em?
[04:11] <azuron> nickrud, Thanx
[04:12] <dooglus> azuron: it looks like "dpkg -i" accepts a "-R" flag to install a whole directory of packages in one go
[04:12] <dooglus> azuron: so put them in a new folder /home/azuron/packages and then run "sudo dpkg -i -R /home/azuron/packages" - that should do it
[04:12] <viscount> steve_laptop, thanks man, i'll take a look
[04:12] <markive> _jason i can't remember the password  , i managed the first bit before but not the "identify" bit
[04:12] <azuron> Wow
[04:12] <azuron> :D
[04:13] <dooglus> azuron: note that I've never tried doing that.  but it might work :)
[04:13] <azuron> hehe
[04:13] <azuron> I will have a try ^^
[04:13] <kakei> hey guys how can i connect to a FTP with a shell
[04:13] <_jason> markive I don't know how to reset the password.  There is '/msg nickserv set password NEW_PASSWORD', but I would assume you need to identify to use that
[04:13] <dooglus> kakei: type "ftp"
[04:13] <Xenguy> kakei: wget or lftp
[04:13] <dailyrorschach> after installing the w32codecs, how can I view qucktime movies within firefox
[04:14] <markive> can anyone get on the nickserv and tell me the first letter of the password? i'll remmeber it with a jog
[04:14] <nickrud> dailyrorschach, the page mentions mozilla-mplayer
[04:14] <pashaw> kakei,   type ftp     then open   then enter the ip
[04:14] <dailyrorschach> ah
[04:14] <dailyrorschach> my fault
[04:14] <nickrud> :)
[04:14] <markive> _jason who runs nickserv?
[04:15] <kakei> ?Invalid command
[04:15] <kakei>  pashaw when i put the ip
[04:15] <_jason> markive if you set it earlier during this session you may be able to tap the up button in the server window where you were entering your commands and see what you typed.  I don't know who runs nickserv
[04:15] <Xenguy> kakei: maybe -> ftp ftp://blahblah.com
[04:15] <markive> _jason it was a few weeks ago  , less than  a month, but i can't rememebr anything  , i'm useless
[04:16] <pashaw> kakei,   you typed  ftp <enter>     open <enter>     then entered the address or DNS name
[04:16] <dooglus> kakei: type "ftp ftp.server.com"
[04:16] <markive> lemme try a few password it ight be
[04:16] <TheRabbit> So my mom brought home this picture CD from Walgreens and I don't know how to open it on Ubuntu...
[04:17] <markive> DAm i can't remebr my password :(
[04:17] <dooglus> markive: do you log IRC messages?  maybe its in your logfiles
[04:17] <kakei> pashaw how do i download a folder ?
[04:18] <markive> good idea , if its on by default
[04:18] <ProN00b> TheRabbit, search for jpg files on it
[04:18] <markive> dooglus where would i look?
[04:18] <dooglus> markive: which client?
[04:18] <finalcut> anyone, anyone at all can help me get serpentine or gnomebaker to burn mp3 files?
[04:18] <TheRabbit> I don't know the names of the images or the format actually
[04:18] <pashaw> kakei,   type help  for commands
[04:18] <markive> hmm
[04:18] <markive> xchat
[04:18] <nameeate1> gnomebaker autoconverted my mp3/ogg files
[04:18] <Madpilot> !tell finalcut about mp3
[04:19] <nameeate1> that could be a problem tho
[04:19] <pashaw> kakei,   get   and put  are the basics
[04:19] <finalcut> thanks madpilot
[04:19] <dooglus> markive: I think then it will be in ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ - but it's been a while since I stopped using xchat
[04:20] <markive> is that in /usr?
[04:20] <dooglus> markive: no, ~ is your home directory
[04:20] <markive> i'm very new to linux :( i'm sorry for my dumbnus
[04:20] <UFO> Hey, why should i choose Ubuntu?
[04:20] <dooglus> s'ok, it's a bit different than windows
[04:20] <pashaw> UFO,    clearly because we did
[04:20] <dooglus> UFO: it's what they all run on your home planet
[04:21] <Xenguy> UFO: It's good :-)
[04:21] <nickrud> UFO, because it works, mostly?
[04:21] <dailyrorschach> anyone get the ati drivers to work on a dell laptop?
[04:21] <realoss> anybody who can help me to find libstdc++.so.5 to be used for ubuntu 5.10 released
[04:21] <_jason> markive you may want to consider using a different nick
[04:21] <TheRabbit> ...linux makes me sad...how do I browse my cdrom?
[04:21] <markive> dooglus, i'm sorry , its beyond my comprihension
[04:21] <Madpilot> what's the command-line (apt-get) equivalent of Synaptic's "update all packages"?
[04:21] <dabaR> realoss: install libstdc++5
[04:21] <UFO> I got the
[04:21] <nickrud> realoss, libstdc++5
[04:21] <realoss> where can i get it
[04:21] <nickrud> hi dabaR :)
[04:21] <dabaR> hey
[04:21] <ProN00b> UFO, its a usable fork of debian, and debian has proven itself on the server already
[04:21] <Madpilot> TheRabbit: you should be able to browse it from the file manager
[04:21] <markive> maybe another nick
[04:21] <markive> lemme try
[04:22] <dooglus> markive: open nautilus, go to your home folder, and - um - what's that obscure key sequence to reveal hidden files?
[04:22] <nickrud> realoss, it's in the repos, apt-get install libstdc++5
[04:22] <UFO> Ati x700 working with vesa at the moment with fujitsu siemens
[04:22] <realoss> ok thanks nickrud
[04:22] <_jason> dooglus markive ctrl+H
[04:22] <largos> what do people reccomend for managing songs on an ipod with ubuntu?
[04:22] <pashaw> Madpilot,    apt-get update   then upgrade   or dist-upgrade
[04:22] <_markive> right i'll do the first bit
[04:22] <_markive> i'll scroll up
[04:22] <Madpilot> pashaw: upgrade, then. thanks
[04:23] <dabaR>  UFO choose is for your operating system on your computer.
[04:23] <UFO> Yes i'm using the Ubuntu now and seems to work quit well
[04:23] <dooglus> _markive: see the 'places' menu at the top?  and 'home' on there?
[04:23] <kakei> how can i get a completly folder via shell with ftp>
[04:23] <steve_laptop> viscount, sorry did that link help you? whats your trying to fo is a snapshot right?
[04:23] <dabaR> UFO: also, join us now and share the software.
[04:23] <TheRabbit> Where is my cdrom directory located... >.<
[04:23] <steve_laptop> now the phone
[04:23] <viscount> steve_laptop, yeah I got it now, thanks man
[04:23] <dooglus> UFO: you'll be free, hacker, you'll be freeeeeee
[04:23] <nickrud> kakei, if you have gnome, you might want to try gftp. It's not perfect, but generally gets the job done.
[04:24] <Xenguy> dooglus: haha
[04:24] <kakei> i use kde
[04:24] <dabaR> lol
[04:24] <Madpilot> TheRabbit: Places menu -> Home Folder - then look right at the bottom, you should see a CDROM symbol - it's like Windows Explorer, basically
[04:24] <kakei> and gFTP crash for me
[04:24] <nickrud> kakei, then, I think its kbear?
[04:24] <TheRabbit> I think I found it, thanks for the help
[04:24] <nickrud> gftp crashes, yes ;(  I used to really depend on that app.
[04:25] <_markive> I think i'm good
[04:25] <Madpilot> gFTP bites... thankfully the FileZilla3 Linux port is coming along...
[04:25] <dabaR> Madpilot: you're ok.
[04:25] <_markive> do i look registered?
[04:25] <kakei> i want to backup my site on my HD =(
[04:25] <scanwinder> wine wont let me eject a cd when its running...and im trying to install something that needs me to switch the cd's...........is there a wine irc channel?
[04:25] <_jason> _markive yes you are identified
[04:25] <kakei> and trying to change and look for a good hosting any recomendations?
[04:25] <kakei> http://kakei.us is my site
[04:26] <Xenguy> scanwinder: #winehq
[04:26] <scanwinder> Xenguy: thanks
[04:26] <Xenguy> yw
[04:26] <_markive> _jason  , thanks so much , and dooglus i think it was  , the world needs more people like l
[04:26] <_markive> like you
[04:26] <_markive> thanks for you pateince
[04:26] <dabaR> $20
[04:27] <_jason> _markive np
[04:27] <_markive> _jason  , who was the other helper
[04:27] <_jason> _markive I think dooglus helped you as well
[04:27] <dabaR> It was the simpson's dog off course, santa's little helper.
[04:27] <_markive> i'll scroll up
[04:28] <_markive> dooglus yes.. it was , thanks guys
[04:28] <dooglus> no problem.
[04:28] <dabaR> OK, but stupid jokes aside, talk to you later.
[04:28] <UFO> What is better in Ubuntu than in Debian?
[04:28] <dooglus> wallpaper.
[04:28] <benplaut> -_-
[04:28] <eobanb> haha
[04:28] <dooglus> drummers.
[04:29] <Xenguy> UFO: The desktop is more pre-configured
[04:29] <viscount> hot sex
[04:29] <_markive> i want to leave M$ world, its all i've known for 15 years :S
[04:29] <benplaut> UFO, more up-to-date packages, a bit more friendly community :P (and it's huge), great documentation
[04:29] <Madpilot> _markive: welcome to the Light
[04:29] <Madpilot> Side,then! (blasted enter key!)
[04:29] <_markive> ufo it worked straight out the box on my dell d600, wireless , bluetooth, pcmcia everything
[04:30] <pete_> hello all; wondering about setting up an HP G55 all-in-one with jetdirect as a scanner
[04:30] <dabaR> _markive: ubuntu is a continuation of a long effort.
[04:31] <cdubya> _markive, yeah, ubuntu pretty much rocks.
[04:31] <richard> I am wondering when the debian offspring will once more converge.
[04:31] <dabaR> richard: if you want a meaningful answer, explain what you mean by that vague sentence.
[04:32] <uber_spaced> what packages do I need to install to get CPAN working correctly?
[04:32] <Danl> whats a good source for assisting in the update from debian to ubuntu
[04:32] <uber_spaced> or at least is there a good resource for finding out what Ubuntu doesnt install by default?
[04:33] <_markive> :)
[04:33] <poningru> !.lit is <reply> .LIT is a proprietry ebook format put out by microsoft (more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebook#Microsoft), to convert .lit files to html take a look at clit: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php
[04:33] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[04:33] <poningru> !.lit
[04:33] <ubotu> .LIT is a proprietry ebook format put out by microsoft (more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebook#Microsoft), to convert .lit files to html take a look at clit: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php
[04:33] <pete_> i'd use the synaptic package manager - it really is great for installing
[04:33] <richard> Well Ubuntu is like many distros a branch or the offspring of the Debian project. Currently there are just enough differences to make them each seperate distros. I am wondering when they will once ore converge and the differences will no longer prevent interoperability
[04:33] <dabaR> Danl: you want to change from a Debian insatll to a Ubuntu install by upgrading the system?
[04:33] <_markive> what benifts are there from being registered?
[04:34] <finalcut> thanks again, Madpilot - i have it working now :O)
[04:34] <dabaR> poningru: do that in private, please.
[04:34] <Danl> i want to change from debian to ubuntu
[04:34] <dabaR> Danl: I believe you have to reinstall. I am not sure though.
[04:35] <Madpilot> poningru: there's actually an app called "clit"? ...
[04:35] <cafuego> Danl?dabaR; Yes, you do.
[04:35] <Danl> there in lies the probelm... i can't reinstall...
[04:35] <richard> Yes to switch from Debian to Ubuntu requires a complete reinstall.
[04:35] <cafuego> Danl: Why not?
[04:35] <Danl> im running colinux
[04:35] <dabaR> Madpilot: don't be vulgar.
[04:35] <cafuego> !find bin/clit
[04:35] <_markive> lol
[04:35] <poningru> huh?
[04:35] <rinzai-shu> richard: i believe Ubuntu and Debian both have two distinctly different stated goals as distributions, and hence, will not "converge" as you put it any time soon.  course i could be wrong, but i doubt it in this case...
[04:35] <poningru> what?
[04:35] <_markive> brb need food
[04:35] <poningru> rofl
[04:36] <poningru> I didnt think about that
[04:36] <poningru> you guys have a dirty mind
[04:36] <dabaR> _markive: noone can take your nick, and also you can talk to ubotu in private.
[04:36] <cafuego> Danl: Well, you can _try_ converting...
[04:36] <Danl> lol
[04:36] <nickrud> rinzai-shu, etch+1 maybe
[04:36] <cafuego> Danl: Step one is to remove any non-essentail package.
[04:36] <Danl> i was thinking about replacing everything in the sources list
[04:36] <rinzai-shu> nickrud: say whaaaaa?
[04:37] <cafuego> Danl: Then you change sources.list, distt-upgrade. Then replace any remaining debian version packages
[04:37] <nickrud> rinzai-shu, convergence, and I have better hopes than that.
[04:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/clit' returned no results.
[04:37] <dabaR> richard: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth for the take on your question by the person that conceptualized Ubuntu and is funding it mostly.
[04:37] <Danl> that was my idea... but didn't know if it would work...
[04:37] <Danl> well lets see...
[04:37] <jordo23_> Are there any DiVX or XViD codecs for Ubuntu?
[04:37] <cafuego> Danl: Only way to know for sure is to try.
[04:37] <richard> Thank you dabaR
[04:37] <Madpilot> dabaR: just surprised... even for *nix, that's quite a name for an app...
[04:37] <jordo23_> For totem player
[04:38] <cafuego> Danl: I did it about  ayear ago, but back then Ubuntu and Debian weren't as diverse.
[04:38] <irvin> !ubotu restricted formats
[04:38] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:38] <nickrud> !restricted
[04:38] <cafuego> !tell jordo23_ -about w32codecs
[04:38] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:38] <dabaR> poningru: no, we don't have a dirty mind, you're too much of a geek...
[04:38] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[04:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:38] <UFO> Yep where can i find the codecs for ubuntu?
[04:38] <Danl> :: crosses fingers and starts looking for list of sources for ubuntu
[04:38] <cafuego> !tell UFO -about w32codecs
[04:38] <borisattva> hello i'm trying to burn some bootable ubunut dvds, that are supposed to be combo install and LIVEi perform the burning by doing right click and "write to dvd" over the ISO file. the process seems to complete succesfully, and the files are cessible in linux environment, but the dvd itself is not bootable. on non of the pcs i tried, while other media seems to boot just fine. is there another way i should burn these to make them bootab
[04:38] <borisattva> le?
[04:39] <_markive> ufoi just copied the win32 stuff to /usr/lib
[04:39] <rinzai-shu> nickrud: and therein lies the beauty of free and open source software...if you want, you are free to combine Debian, and Ubuntu into your own special converged distribution, and release it as whatever you want (maybe Debibuntu, I don't know) but you'll have much better odds forking your own distro than changing the stated goals of either Debian or Ubuntu on your own methinks
[04:39] <dabaR> borisattva: you sure your computer is set to boot from that drive?
[04:39] <_markive> i don't think i got the  universe stuff put in
[04:40] <borisattva> dabar: yep. i checked the bootsequence and i confirmed by testing with with winxp bootable cds
[04:40] <_markive> dabar thanks
[04:40] <_markive> i'm duel oot
[04:40] <_markive>  boot*
[04:40] <nickrud> rinzai-shu, I'm not mentioning changing goals; but, dapper is a long term release (with I think, the desktop changing overhead), maybe when etch or later comes out that can serve as the long term underlying release
[04:41] <cafuego> borisattva: make sure you don't burn the CDs at more then 8X
[04:41] <cafuego> borisattva: Probably 2X for DVDs
[04:41] <tiwi> hello, any body can tell me. I use the usb flash disk, but can't open,
[04:41] <UFO> Does the codecs work in Turion64bit?
[04:41] <dabaR> cafuego: ? where did this come from?
[04:41] <nickrud> rinzai-shu, I just read about deb devels & their ubuntu alter-egos talking about trying
[04:41] <cafuego> UFO: No
[04:41] <rinzai-shu> nickrud: in this crazy world, you never know what may happen! ;-)
[04:41] <dabaR> nickrud: haha, alter egos.
[04:41] <Danl> where can i find a list of sources for breezy?
[04:41] <cafuego> dabaR: Depending on media, burning Ubuntu fast makes it broken. Dumb but true.
[04:41] <tiwi> and the massage is say " UNable to mount the selcted volume" what is mean
[04:42] <nickrud> heh, some of them wear 3 or 4 hats :)
[04:42] <awstott> anyone know why i'm getting an Internal error, HAL failed to initialize
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> awstott, you have a usb Hard drive plugged in when it happened?
[04:43] <awstott> nope
[04:43] <UFO> Should i install 32bit version for more compatible with the software around the net?
[04:43] <bachstudies> I have stupidly deleted my bottom panel on gnome. Is there any way to get the default panel back without having to add all the bits individually>
[04:43] <awstott> I was messing with mythtv and added my tv tuner to umm what file was that
[04:43] <bur[n] er> bachstudies: nope
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> oh, wait I got one of those on my kubuntu box too
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> just last night
[04:43] <awstott> then I rebooted and voila I get this error
[04:43] <cafuego> UFO: If you plan on watching avis, using java and accessing websites with flash, then yes.
[04:43] <dooglus> uber_spaced: ubuntu uses packages.  CPAN kind of clashes with ubuntu's packaging system.  there are packages available for most of the commonly used CPAN modules
[04:43] <dabaR> bur[n] er: there has to be.
[04:43] <borisattva> cafuego: i had it set to maximum before. do you think that could still be the cause even if the files are completely readable on the dvd? implying that perhaps the burning was sucessful?
[04:44] <_markive> can someome help me putting universe in please
[04:44] <cafuego> borisattva: No, just because you can see the files doesn't mean you can actually access their contents...
[04:44] <cafuego> dooglus: dh-make-perl
[04:44] <UFO> That sUhould be on the first line of 64bit
[04:44] <Madpilot> _markive: have you seen the repos wiki page?
[04:44] <dabaR> _markive: take a look at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html for a guide on that and installing apps on Ubuntu. Let me know if you ned more help.
[04:44] <Madpilot> !repos
[04:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:44] <uber_spaced> dooglus, so then is it OK if I dont try to mix and match using apt-get and cpan to install perl packages?
[04:45] <borisattva> ok, i'l try forcing it to burn at 1x
[04:45] <dabaR> Madpilot: can you make a different, fixed version of the breezy sources on the pastebin? I am lazy.
[04:45] <cafuego> uber_spaced: You can use the 'dh-make-perl' command to build customised .deb packages from CPAN sources automagically.
[04:45] <uber_spaced> i mean, if i preferr to do just cpan stuff, should that be ok?
[04:45] <borisattva> actually it probably burnt them at a pretty slow rate, because it took almost an hour to complete the burn process.
[04:45] <_markive> dabar thanks
[04:45] <cafuego> uber_spaced: That's a double win.
[04:45] <_markive> madpilot no i havn't
[04:45] <rinzai-shu> !beer
[04:45] <_markive> madpilot can i have a link?
[04:45] <uber_spaced> cafuego, so, lets just say that Class::DBI isn't in the apt-get list or whatever.  what commands would I use to make it into a .deb package?
[04:45] <dabaR> _markive: it is up there.
[04:46] <cafuego> uber_spaced: Just a moment...
[04:46] <rinzai-shu> Harpy Horrordays! Merry Crispness!
[04:46] <uber_spaced> cafuego,  would it cause major conflicts?
[04:46] <Xenguy> hehe
[04:46] <Madpilot> !tell _markive about repos
[04:46] <_markive> thanks
[04:46] <tiwi> hi, anybody can help ,I use the USB flashdisk but the driver is use FAT and I need to open the file. is there any way i can do
[04:46] <nickrud> dabaR, speaking of your website, you need to pretty it up and move it to the wiki :)
[04:47] <jordo23_> What's the best movie player to watch DiVX movies under Gnome? I have already installed the codec pack.
[04:47] <Madpilot> dabaR: what's wrong with the current pastebin Breezy sources?
[04:47] <dabaR> nickrud: it is released under the gfdl, so you can do it too!
[04:47] <nickrud> dabaR, you sneaky one
[04:47] <dabaR> Madpilot: did you read?
[04:47] <Madpilot> dabaR: aside from the Hoary backports, which I just noticed and will kill...
[04:47] <parti> Hey!
[04:47] <cafuego> uber_spaced: 'sudo dh-make-perl --build --cpan Class::DBI'
[04:47] <parti> Hey! I'm back !
[04:47] <dabaR> jordo23_: the one you find works best. Try vlc, mplayer, xine, and totem-xine.
[04:48] <dooglus> uber_spaced: I'm not too sure about the whole thing.  But I really would expect some ubuntu packages to have dependancies on some CPAN modules - so you can't avoid using the ubuntu'ified CPAN modules.
[04:48] <dabaR> hey, its a parti!
[04:48] <cafuego> uber_spaced: It will configure cpan the first time it runs.
[04:48] <dabaR> tiwi: how are you trying to mount?
[04:48] <parti> it's "a" parti ? :P
[04:48] <dabaR> party!
[04:48] <parti> Anyway, I'm back with the same problem ><
[04:48] <jordo23_> dabaR: is there one that generally has less trouble playing Divx movies over a network connection? (I have the movies on a windows box, and am opening them through an SMB share)
[04:49] <parti> But, this time I uploaded the image to ImageShack, so you can see :)
[04:49] <dabaR> Madpilot: well, that is basically it, I guess, if you cant find other errors.
[04:49] <parti> http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gpartedwarning7xy.png
[04:49] <Madpilot> dabaR: the hoary-extras lines are gone from the Breezy pastebin now...
[04:49] <dooglus> jordo23_: I've played movies over a windows share fine with mplayer - but I mounted the share rather than using the weird GNOME vfs thingy
[04:49] <parti> When I try to resize the partition using Gparted, I ge this: http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gpartedwarning7xy.png
[04:50] <tiwi> dabar: sory I don't understand the meaning of mount. and I need to open the USB flashdisk, but the message say "UNABLE TO MOUNT THE SELCTED VOLUME"
[04:50] <dabaR> Madpilot: if you know how, make it all into one line with universe main restricted and multiverse.
[04:50] <parti> debar: ja ja ja. Yeah... with me the party starts :P
[04:51] <dooglus> parti: did you run the "chkdsk/f" in windows?
[04:51] <parti> yep, I did.
[04:51] <parti> and this is what it told me
[04:51] <dooglus> parti: is the drive mounted automatically?  if so, "umount" it
[04:51] <dabaR> tiwi: so, you put the usb in, and then the icon for it appears, but when you try double-clicking the icon, or selecting it from the menu, you get that error?
[04:52] <Madpilot> dabaR: yeah, my own sources.list is set up that way, I'll edit further...
[04:52] <dabaR> Madpilot: and fix up ubotu's factoid. Good man, I am soo lazy to do anything:)
[04:52] <parti> Chldsk cannot run because the Volume is in use by another process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be checked the next time  the system restarts? (Y/N)
[04:52] <dooglus> parti: say 'y' to that
[04:53] <dooglus> parti: then reboot
[04:53] <parti> and, I put Y
[04:53] <parti> and, then I restarted.
[04:53] <dooglus> ok
[04:53] <parti> And, it scanned my NTFS partition. ANd it didn't gtave me any erros at all,
[04:53] <dooglus> and you saw it checking, before windows came back up - fine.
[04:53] <parti> gtabe --> gave
[04:53] <Madpilot> dabaR: what's wrong with the factoid itself?
[04:54] <tiwi> DABAR: yes, can you tell me how to open it.
[04:54] <dooglus> parti: so the next thing to do is to see if the ntfs partition is mounted when you boot the live cd
[04:54] <dabaR> well, it is pointing to that address. Can you change that particular pastebin entry? I thouhgt you could only make new ones.
[04:54] <parti> ok. How do I do that ?
[04:54] <dooglus> parti: run a terminal after booting the live cd and type "mount" to see what's mounted
[04:54] <dooglus> parti: look especially for the word "ntfs"
[04:55] <parti> ok
[04:55] <_markive> time for bed
[04:55] <dabaR> tiwi: no, but I can try figuring out with you. Please paste the output of "mount" from a terminal to a pastebin. pastebins are at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:55] <_markive> tha nks for your help tonight chaps
[04:55] <parti> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ mount
[04:55] <parti> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)
[04:55] <parti> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[04:55] <parti> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[04:55] <parti> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[04:55] <parti> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[04:55] <parti> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[04:55] <parti> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[04:55] <parti> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[04:55] <parti> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[04:55] <parti> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$
[04:55] <Madpilot> dabaR: hmm, you're right - editing the pastebin actually creates a new pastebin entry... I'll change the factoid
[04:55] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[04:55] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:56] <parti> I don't see NTFS...
[04:56] <dooglus> parti: nothing ntfs-ish there
[04:56] <_markive> good night all and Merry Christmas
[04:56] <dabaR> parti: post to pastebin, not to the channel, please. Post the output of dmesg to pastebin, please.
[04:56] <dabaR> _markive: see ya.
[04:56] <flankk> _markive, Merry Christmas!
[04:56] <parti> ahh.. pastebin ?
[04:56] <dabaR> Howdy Ho!
[04:56] <dooglus> parti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:57] <parti> Why should I post it there? What does it do?
[04:57] <dooglus> parti: it's like imageshack, but for text
[04:57] <parti> ohh..
[04:58] <pashaw> parti,  your paste pushed like 4 other peoples questions off the screen
[04:58] <regeya_> daaaaaang!
[04:58] <uber_spaced> thanks for the info.
[04:58] <uber_spaced> happy holidays.
[04:59] <parti> Oh. O'm sorry.
[04:59] <dabaR> parti: sorry, I thought I was talking to tiwi instead of you...
[04:59] <parti> Didn't know of pastebin
[04:59] <dabaR> parti: no need to post dmesg.
[04:59] <richard> Does anyone know why when I reboot my ubuntu v5.10 it does not pick up on my Westell DSL modem without me going into 'ADMINISTRATION' --> 'NETWORKING' and then deactivating the Ethernet and reactivating it?
[04:59] <parti> .. ok ><
[04:59] <dabaR> richard: ya, cause breezy sucks for that. Can you post your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin?
[04:59] <sklav> richard, i have similar issue with my pppoe connection
[05:00] <Madpilot> dabaR: all the ubotu factoids should be up to date now
[05:00] <sklav> on 5.10 breezy
[05:00] <dabaR> Madpilot: good, thank you.
[05:00] <Madpilot> dabaR: I fixed !repos, !repositories and !sources - any others you can think of?
[05:00] <parti> mmm. I'm lost
[05:00] <dabaR> no.
[05:01] <dabaR> sklav: you do that same thing I told richard then.
[05:01] <parti> So.. enybody has some idea?
[05:01] <parti> ok, there are new plp here :)
[05:02] <nickrud> well, we had high hopes
[05:02] <richard> Ok dabaR I have pasted it to ethoIssue
[05:02] <sethk> richard, obviously, it does pick up your dsl modem.  If it did not pick up the dsl modem, you could go to the admin tool and activate it.  You said you deactivate it, then reactivate it
[05:02] <parti> I am trying to resize my partiton, giving more space to my Ubuntu. but, Gparted in the Live CD dosn't seem to work
[05:02] <sethk> richard, you can't deactivate something that isn't there
[05:02] <tiwi> Dabar: I have try, thank you
[05:02] <sethk> richard, so you are asking the wrong question
[05:02] <richard> Yes sethk I have to Deactivate then Activate it agian.
[05:03] <sethk> richard, the correct question is, why is the configuration of the dsl modem not correct after boot, NOT why isn't the dsl modem detected
[05:03] <dooglus> parti: I ended up using a program called 'ntfsresize' I think
[05:03] <richard> ok sethk
[05:03] <dooglus> parti: it resized the filesystem but didn't shrink the partition to match - I had to do that by hand.
[05:03] <sethk> richard, I'm not just being pedantic; we have to look in a different place for the problem.
[05:03] <dooglus> parti: would you be up for trying that?
[05:04] <richard> ok
[05:04] <parti> yes
[05:04] <parti> I will be up
[05:04] <parti> My computer is my life !! :D
[05:04] <SweetestSavage> o.o
[05:04] <dooglus> parti: do you have 'resizentfs' on the livecd?
[05:04] <richard> So what do you suggest sethk
[05:04] <parti> resizentfs ?
[05:04] <sethk> richard, I would start by doing dmesg > outputfile  (some file name, that is, capture the dmesg output so we can search it), and look in dmesg and in /var/log/messages to find out what happens during the (incorrect) configuration after boot
[05:04] <sethk> richard, also
[05:05] <sethk> richard, after boot, but before fixing, do ifconfig -a
[05:05] <dooglus> parti: something like that
[05:05] <viscount> any suggestions of a good gnome firewall app?
[05:05] <sethk> richard, that will tell us how the o/s has set up the interface
[05:05] <parti> resizentfs
[05:05] <parti> bash: resizentfs: command not found
[05:05] <tiwi> Dabar: i wait for the reply, thank you for you file he he he
[05:05] <dooglus> ntfsresize?
[05:05] <parti> nor do I see it in the Menus
[05:05] <sethk> richard, the -a gives more info than ifconfig without -a
[05:05] <Madpilot> dabaR: try "any idea" with ubotu in pm :D
[05:05] <parti> mm...
[05:05] <parti> sudo apt-get install gparted ntfsprogs ?
[05:05] <sethk> richard, when you do the deactivate and reactivate, messages  will be written to /var/log/messages
[05:06] <dabaR> tiwi: my file? you click on show details in that box, and also open a terminal and run "mount" then paste to pastebin the output.
[05:06] <sethk> richard, comparing whats written during boot and what's written on activate may help us figure out what goes wrong
[05:06] <dooglus> parti: that's right
[05:06] <pashaw> parti,   found some google posts about your NTFS problem, they solved it by resizing with Knoppix-liveCD QtParted they said same thing Ubuntu CD wouldnt resize NTFS
[05:06] <parti> ahhh
[05:06] <richard> Ok I did the dmesg
[05:06] <parti> but...
[05:06] <azuron> What disk burn software to use under Ubuntu?
[05:07] <azuron> is there an available pkg in Universe??
[05:07] <dabaR> sethk: it is not an issue with that, it is an issue where the interfaces file has two entries for the pppoe.
[05:07] <dabaR> I can fix it for the,
[05:07] <parti> I will have to Download the knoppix iso !! ?  :(
[05:07] <dooglus> qtparted uses ntfsprogs, right?
[05:07] <pashaw> parti,  this guys blog  read Dec15th  http://www.cs.ust.hk/~joseph/Blog/2005/11/ubuntu-on-ibm-thinkpad-t43-2668-hh5.html
[05:07] <silverton> how do I make the compiler compile with gcc3.4?
[05:07] <dabaR> I need a few minutes, cause I have a phone call.
[05:07] <grshpr> ok
[05:07] <Madpilot> azuron: there are a lot of burning apps in Ubuntu
[05:07] <dooglus> parti: you can just install "qtparted" if you like - "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[05:07] <grshpr> why not
[05:07] <parti> Is't it the same as Gparted but for KDE ?
[05:08] <dooglus> silverton: gcc-3.4 is the compiler.  you just need to install it
[05:08] <azuron> Madpilot, What do you recommend??? Easy to use?
[05:08] <dooglus> parti: it's similar, but they aren't just different front-ends to the same thing
[05:08] <silverton> dooglus, gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 is installed
[05:08] <azuron> Madpilot, I just wanna burn 195Mb data onto a CD
[05:08] <silverton> and 4.0 is default
[05:08] <parti> mm.
[05:08] <parti> ok
[05:08] <parti> let me try
[05:08] <dooglus> parti: apparently qtparted uses ntfsprogs and gparted doesn't
[05:08] <Fushi> gnomebaker
[05:08] <Madpilot> azuron: if you're burning data, just use Nautilus - the file manager in Ubuntu...
[05:08] <parti> ok
[05:09] <dooglus> silverton: so "gcc-3.4 file.c" will use the 3.4 versin
[05:09] <dooglus> version
[05:09] <azuron> Madpilot, How to use it to burn disk?
[05:09] <silverton> what if I'm using the make command?
[05:09] <dabaR> richard: do you have a router+modem DSL, or just modem?
[05:09] <Madpilot> azuron:  in Naut, use the Go menu --> CD/DVD creator
[05:09] <tiwi> dabar : Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[05:09] <azuron> Madpilot, Cool thank you :)
[05:09] <dooglus> silverton: the make command uses "Makefile" to tell it what compiler to use
[05:09] <parti> it seems that gparted also has ntfsprogs
[05:10] <Madpilot> azuron: then drag'n'drop/copy the files you want to burn into that burning window
[05:10] <parti> sudo apt-get install gparted ntfsprogs
[05:10] <parti> Reading package lists... Done
[05:10] <parti> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:10] <parti> gparted is already the newest version.
[05:10] <parti> ntfsprogs is already the newest version.
[05:10] <parti> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:10] <sethk> dabaR, not an issue with what?
[05:10] <dabaR> tiwi: please post that "mount" output. Apps>Accessories>Terminal, then run "mount" and post to pastebin.
[05:10] <richard> dabaR it says router on the bottom
[05:10] <dabaR> sethk: it is not a dmesg issue.
[05:10] <dooglus> parti: that doesn't mean that gparted needs ntfsprogs
[05:10] <dooglus> parti: try "qtparted"
[05:10] <sethk> dabaR, dmesg just displays information.  Nothing is an issue with dmesg
[05:10] <dabaR> richard: what IP address do you have now? run "ifconfig" and then see what it says for inet addr:
[05:11] <parti> ... weird, i cannot isntall qtparted...
[05:11] <sklav> dabaR, i have the same issue
[05:11] <richard> is that safe to pass out on here?
[05:11] <dooglus> parti: why?
[05:11] <sklav> it seems to be with hotplug
[05:11] <parti> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[05:11] <parti> Reading package lists... Done
[05:11] <parti> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:11] <parti> E: Couldn't find package qtparted
[05:11] <sklav> i have yet to isolate it
[05:11] <dabaR> richard: is it a 192.something IP address?
[05:11] <Madpilot> parti: please stop pasting
[05:11] <Madpilot> !paste
[05:11] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:11] <dabaR> parti: ya, we showed you pastebin.
[05:11] <richard> yes it is dabaR
[05:12] <parti> ... I forget about that..
[05:12] <parti> ok.
[05:12] <parti> Anyway,from now on I should remember.
[05:12] <dooglus> parti: you need to enable the 'universe' repos
[05:12] <tiwi> dabar: this is the the massage =  Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[05:12] <troy> I have a small problem, I installed ubuntu but had no network cable connected when running the install -- now I've connected the cable but I don't get a network automatically (ifconfig shows nothing) -- what do I do to get the network up (dhcp)
[05:12] <sethk> richard, DSL it's both a modem and a router, if you have a typical DSL setup
[05:12] <parti> So it is posible to aneblo the universe repo in the LIVE CD :D
[05:12] <richard> Yes sethk I think you are correct
[05:12] <dooglus> parti: sure
[05:13] <dooglus> parti: you're on-line with it?
[05:13] <sklav> sethk i use ubuntu as my router
[05:13] <parti> mmm ? Yep.
[05:13] <silverton> dooglus, I'm not finding the gcc option in Makefile
[05:13] <sklav> my modem is just acting as a pass threw
[05:13] <dooglus> silverton: you don't see a "CC=" or anything?
[05:13] <parti> Yes, I am online with the LIVE CD
[05:13] <Madpilot> parti: you can, but everything you add will be lost when you stop using the liveCD
[05:13] <dabaR> tiwi: ya, but I want the output of "mount", please.
[05:13] <sethk> sklav, networks contain multiple routers
[05:13] <silverton> dooglus, no
[05:13] <sklav> i understand that
[05:14] <dabaR> richard: ya, then it is a router. I do not see anything wrong there in interfaces, but, try removing the hostname part, may work.
[05:14] <sklav> im mentionning that im having a similar issue
[05:14] <sethk> richard, comparing the ifconfig output after boot, and then after deactivate/activate is a good idea.
[05:14] <sethk> richard, I don't see how it can be a problem with interfaces.  that really doesn't make a lot of sense
[05:14] <seth_k|lappy> All right... here's a question! I'm running gParted off a LiveCD to try to resize a FAT32 partition. If the partition is mounted, I can't change it because it's mounted. If I unmount it, I can't resize it because gParted can't read it! How do I make it follow my orders?
[05:14] <dooglus> silverton: try running "CC=gcc-3.4 make"
[05:14] <sethk> richard, interfaces is the same when you boot and when you deactivate/activate
[05:14] <sklav> sethk could it be the hotplug causing the issue?
[05:14] <dooglus> !universe
[05:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:15] <parti> well, I'm trying to resize my partition from the LIVE CD, because I've reda from the Ubuntu Forums that it is the recommended way.
[05:15] <sklav> sethk could it be the hotplug causing the issue?
[05:15] <richard> I know what you mean. I dont get it either that is why I was asking you guys.
[05:15] <sethk> sklav, well, sort of.  Probably more correct to say that hotplug is fixing the problem after activate
[05:15] <richard> What about wireless on Ubuntu? How is it?
[05:15] <dabaR> sethk: typical for what? You are not from north america, or are you?
[05:15] <sklav> hotplug seems to be were it chokes on my system
[05:15] <sethk> dabaR, I am, not that it makes any difference in this case.
[05:15] <azuron> Ubuntu cannot identify my DVD-Burner!
[05:15] <sklav> u see when hotplug has a delay per say then i experience the issue
[05:15] <dabaR> no? I have a dsl modem only, and most people I know here in Canada do. Weird.
[05:15] <robotgeek> richard: depends on your card
[05:15] <sethk> dabaR, your DSL modem is also a router
[05:15] <sklav> but hotplug usually 4 out of 5 times works perfectly
[05:16] <sklav> also from the command line a network restart
[05:16] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell richard about wireless
[05:16] <richard> I just looked at Walmart. I do not want to spend a fortune on it.
[05:16] <sklav> will not activate eth0
[05:16] <sklav> for some reason
[05:16] <dabaR> sethk: really? I never knew that, and still doubt it even after your sentence. How do you mean it is that too?
[05:16] <sklav> it will activate lo and eth1
[05:16] <tiwi> dabaR: sory I don't family with Ubuntu. you mean the out put is the massage or what. sory Iam litter stupid
[05:16] <dabaR> sklav: post the /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.
[05:16] <sklav> ok
[05:17] <sethk> dabaR, it has an IP address to talk to your machine, and it has another ip address on the ISP side, and it routes packets between the addresses
[05:17] <sethk> dabaR, there is nothing to doubt, trust me, I've been designing and building this type of hardware for 30 years
[05:17] <dragoon> having a problem adding a third monitor to my xconfig
[05:17] <dragoon>                  http://janas.customer.netspace.net.au/xorg.conf is my config
[05:17] <parti> I am currenly updating the repo...
[05:18] <dabaR> tiwi: that is fine. 1. Open a terminal. (Click Applications, then Accessories, then Terminal) 2. Type "mount" in the terminal, and hit enter. 3. Paste the output of "mount" from the terminal to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:18] <dragoon> nickrud: why is that
[05:18] <nickrud> dragoon, it would be an excuse to buy a bigger desk
[05:18] <dabaR> sethk: well, my computer has a public IP address.
[05:18] <dragoon> heh
[05:18] <dragoon> nickrud: its very annoying though - it should work fine
[05:19] <sethk> dabaR, and?
[05:19] <wontez> hello
[05:19] <dabaR> sethk: and that is why I believe it is a modem, rather than a router.
[05:19] <wontez> hello everyone
[05:19] <dabaR> sethk: will it say anything on the box as to it being a router?
[05:19] <sethk> dabaR, you're confused about exactly what a modem, and what a router, is.
[05:19] <sethk> dabaR, depends on the manufacturer
[05:19] <wontez> can someone tell me if there is a nice NFS gui
[05:19] <sklav> sethk / dabaR here is my network interfaces file
[05:20] <sklav> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6052
[05:20] <dabaR> I work for an ISP, so Im not totally clueless, but only for about a year, so you have the years advantage there.
[05:20] <sklav> dabaR, sethk is right by the way
[05:20] <sklav> a dsl modem can act as a router or a bridge
[05:20] <sklav> and so on
[05:20] <sklav> in his case its acting like a router
[05:21] <dabaR> weird. first time I hear that.
[05:21] <sklav> do you own a dsl modem?
[05:21] <sklav> if so open the book or manual that came with it
[05:21] <dabaR> well, there is one here a few feet from me.
[05:21] <sethk> dabaR, I don't think we actually disagree, it is more a matter of terminology
[05:21] <dooglus> the disk manager in ubuntu is fantastic - it just found an extra 4095 gigs of disk that I didn't know I had!
[05:21] <sklav> if so open the book or manual that came with it
[05:21] <dabaR> sethk: I am not talking about disagreeing, I am looking for knowledge.
[05:21] <sklav> oops
[05:21] <parti> Ok. I'm running QTparted now.
[05:22] <tiwi> dabaR: ok,  i have send , can you see that
[05:22] <dooglus> I thought I only had a 40Gb disk in this laptop, but apparently it has 4095Gb free
[05:22] <sklav> dabaR, or sethk u see my pastebin ?
[05:22] <sethk> sklav, I just pulled it up now
[05:22] <nickrud> dragoon, the only thing that looks weird to me is the screen definition under the radeon device definition
[05:22] <dabaR> sklav: remove all lines under the ones for your eth0, and then rerun sudo pppoeconf, and then it should work on boot.
[05:22] <dragoon> nickrud: what looks wierd abou it
[05:22] <dabaR> sklav: but show me your interfaces file again after you rerun pppoeconf.
[05:22] <dragoon> about it
[05:22] <sklav> dabar it works on boot
[05:22] <dabaR> sklav: then what?
[05:22] <sklav> its inconsistant
[05:22] <mae> how can i list processes in order of memory consumption with 'ps' ?
[05:23] <sklav> sometimes it doesnt activate the interfaces
[05:23] <pashaw> dragoon, how many monitors are currently working correctly? 2?
[05:23] <sethk> mae, you can pipe the ps output to sort
[05:23] <nickrud> dragoon, well, I would think that screen under device would be one of the plugs coming out of the card; you are attached to the only output (or first output) on the radeon
[05:23] <nickrud> ?
[05:23] <sethk> mae, see man sort to find out how to sort on a column other than the first one
[05:23] <dabaR> tiwi: I can see, but I do not know what to do, sorry.
[05:23] <dragoon> pashaw: yes two, on my 6600gt, running the 3rd - newly added one from a radeon 7000 pci
[05:23] <dooglus> sethk: in the UK, wanadoo's DSL package comes with a modem which is only a modem.  if you want a DSL router, that's extra
[05:24] <Llewxam> can anyone help me with compiling a driver? i'm getting some errors here when i make the file.
[05:24] <dabaR> sklav: I think doing what I told you will activate the interface on boot.
[05:24] <sethk> dooglus, that's just a different use of the term router
[05:24] <dabaR> sklav: because I did it several times for other people.
[05:24] <sklav> dabaR, it works on boot
[05:24] <sklav> the problem is its inconsitant
[05:24] <sethk> dooglus, what that actually is, is a small hub or switch combined with the dsl modem/router
[05:24] <sklav> my interface comes up on boot
[05:24] <Aviatrixie> good evening :)
[05:24] <dabaR> sklav: be more specific what exactly you mean.
[05:24] <sethk> dooglus, it's a misuse of the terminology, since a switch doesn't route
[05:24] <dabaR> hi Aviatrixie .
[05:24] <sklav> ok if i reboot this system
[05:25] <sklav> chances are the pppoe will start
[05:25] <sklav> but then again it might not
[05:25] <sklav> inconsistant
[05:25] <azuron> Madpilot, I am burning disk, thank you :)
[05:25] <sklav> my redhat system does not have this issue
[05:25] <pashaw> dragoon, thx, was curious as im using the twinview option for my quadro  and your config isnt
[05:25] <sklav> im new to ubuntu / debian
[05:26] <dabaR> sklav: ya, that is what I got the first time, anyhow, that is what I would try, as it worked on several other computers. YOu basically have 2 entries for dsl in that file, if you take a look, and that is what is happening, I saw it before, that fixed it before, you can try.
[05:26] <sklav> but im using linux for 7 years
[05:26] <tiwi> dabaR: ok never mine, but thk a lot your help. he he he
[05:26] <Llewxam> my error's posted in the pastebin....
[05:26] <sklav> ok dabaR i will try it
[05:26] <sklav> which part should i remove thought?
[05:26] <dragoon> pashaw: ah i see, i find this way nicer - seeing i can have different res on diff monitors
[05:26] <parti> Dooglus
[05:26] <Llewxam> if anyone can help i'll appreciate it so i can be done with this. -.-'
[05:27] <parti> Look at this: http://img418.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qtparted3wy.png
[05:27] <pashaw> dragoon, cool  im using matching LCDs so hadnt considered that
[05:27] <dragoon> ah ok
[05:27] <dragoon> i just got this 3rd monitor today - from dads work - they were getting rid of old ones so i asked him to grab me one
[05:28] <sklav> ok brbr
[05:28] <sklav> i will test what you said dabaR
[05:28] <sklav> brb
[05:28] <seth_k|lappy> Trying again... I'm running gParted off a LiveCD to try to resize a FAT32 partition. If the partition is mounted, I can't change it because it's mounted. If I unmount it, I can't resize it because gParted can't read it! How do I make it follow my orders?
[05:29] <mikeroz> Quick question - I have Ubuntu 5.10 freshly installed on and AMD64 SMP platform. My apt-get sources were all screwed up - that I sort of/kind of fixed. However, I still have the problem of many of my apps not working. I have tracked the problem to gksudo - all of the tools which use gksudo never start. I can start them using gksu. Is there a way to 'fix' gksudo?
[05:29] <parti> Ok. As you can see from http://img418.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qtparted3wy.png  It says that NTFS is active !! ??
[05:29] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hmm, interesting.
[05:29] <nickrud> dragoon, reading man xorg.conf, screen under device is per plug, and 0 is mandatory; 2 is definitely wrong
[05:29] <dragoon> nickrud: ok
[05:30] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, interesting isn't the word I'd use :P I guess I am on the clock so i shouldn't mind too much, I'm getting paid either way. Still annoying tho
[05:30] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: heh. are you sure it can't read it unmounted?
[05:30] <pashaw> parti,    id try the Knoppix qtparted    never hurts to have a knoppix cd laying around anyway
[05:30] <laptopzz> does anyone here use skype in ubuntu?
[05:30] <tiwi> dabaR: i must to go now , thk you byee, C U
[05:30] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, well, it won't let me do anything to it unmounted. It says "unable to read drive information, some operations will be unavailable"
[05:31] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, in this case "some" means "everything"
[05:31] <parti> ok. :)  pashaw.
[05:31] <dooglus> parti: what am I looking at?
[05:31] <parti> umm?
[05:31] <dragoon> nickrud: i cant see what your talking about
[05:31] <pashaw> dooglus,   her NTFS partition is active   stopping her from resizing
[05:32] <sells> anyone here ever use darwin ports
[05:32] <nickrud> dragoon, man xorg.conf, device section, screen subsection: compare to your radeon device definition
[05:32] <dooglus> pashaw: doesn't 'active' mean 'bootable'?
[05:32] <parti> dooglus. What I was saying that QTparted says that my NTFS partition is "Active"
[05:32] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hmm, there's a cli thing. parted i think. try that
[05:32] <pashaw> dooglus,   scroll down and look to the left   it says hda active/busy
[05:32] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, that's gonna be my next try robotgeek, after I download Dapper's gparted and try it
[05:32] <parti> Anyway, I will follow your tip, I will download Knoppix :)
[05:33] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hmm, okay
[05:33] <dooglus> parti: see what the ntfsprogs can do too
[05:33] <sells> anyone here ever use darwin ports
[05:33] <dooglus> parti: first, what does "sudo lsof /dev/hda" tell you?
[05:34] <sethk> dooglus, looking at what they do, they also sort of cripple the one they call a modem so that it will only talk to one machine.  That's still an incorrect usage of the term router, though.
[05:34] <Urthmover> my vncserver seems to have died.....how do I check to see if vncserver is a listening service?
[05:34] <nickrud> dragoon, you've confused screen as used with a video device definition, and screen as used to join a device to a monitor
[05:34] <parti> let me see
[05:34] <Urthmover> ps?
[05:34] <parti> it dosn't tell me anything
[05:34] <dooglus> sethk: I think the wanadoo modems give you a proper external address - not a LAN address
[05:35] <dooglus> parti: first, what does "sudo lsof /dev/hda2" tell you?
[05:35] <sells> anyone ever use the program darwin ports
[05:35] <dragoon> nickrud: so that means i need to change screen 2 to screen 0 /
[05:35] <sethk> dooglus, any presence on the 'net has to have a proper external address
[05:35] <sethk> dooglus, it's true that the router typically does this for you
[05:35] <nickrud> dragoon, or simply delete that line
[05:35] <dragoon> ok
[05:35] <dragoon> ill give that a shot
[05:35] <Urthmover> what is the command to see listening services?
[05:35] <dragoon> thanks
[05:35] <parti> sudo lsof /dev/hda2.. it dosn't tell me anything either :(
[05:35] <crimsun> Urthmover: netstat -ntl
[05:35] <Urthmover> thanks
[05:36] <nickrud> dragoon, like I said, I'd like to have your problem, I've researched it a bit :)
[05:36] <dragoon> nickrud: fair enough
[05:36] <Urthmover> I don't want ports or connection crimsun....
[05:36] <Urthmover> I need to see if vncserver is a listening service
[05:36] <pashaw> sethk,   a router always does that for you      if not your home location at the isp
[05:37] <Urthmover> basucally I rebooted and now I can't vnc into it....but I DO have SSH working
[05:37] <Urthmover> so what do I do?
[05:37] <dragoon> start vnc ?
[05:37] <Urthmover> I reset the password...but the service doesn't appear to be up
[05:37] <Urthmover> what do I type to "start" vnc then
[05:37] <Urthmover>  ./vncserver?
[05:37] <Urthmover>  slocate vncserver ...finds nothing
[05:38] <Urthmover> but it was just up and going....so maybe I have the filename wrong
[05:38] <Urthmover> suggestions dragoon?
[05:38] <parti> ok, guys. I've decided to use Knoppix Live CD,
[05:38] <dragoon> start vnc from initd ?
[05:38] <dragoon> /etc/init.d/vncserver start
[05:38] <Urthmover> how do I start up vncserver?
[05:38] <dragoon> ^
[05:38] <Urthmover> just from the command line
[05:39] <Urthmover> ok thanks
[05:39] <parti> See you later.  I know I will be back, even if I solve my problem [Have to tell you guys that I resolved ;) ] 
[05:39] <RememberPOL> Hi all. Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu on a PowerPro A 2:17 laptop, or any Centrino for that matter?
[05:39] <parti> Bye
[05:39] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I'm using a Centrino platform on this ThinkPad X41-2527 right now
[05:39] <Urthmover> for some reason vncserver doesn't exist in /etc/init.d
[05:39] <Urthmover> how do I reinstall vnc?
[05:40] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Does the speedstep thermal system work properly?
[05:40] <crimsun> Urthmover: System> Preferences> Remote Desktop
[05:40] <crimsun> RememberPOL: it works fine
[05:40] <Urthmover> it's wierd since it was just up and working...before I did a apt-get update...and installed the new kernel and rebooted
[05:40] <RememberPOL> crimsun: And you're running Ubuntu v5.10, right?
[05:40] <Urthmover> crimsun.....well thats all well and good...but I'm remote and I don't have VNC working....just SSH
[05:41] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, 6.04, but it worked fine in 5.10
[05:41] <Squee-D> probably /etc/init.d/vnc start
[05:41] <Squee-D> hmm no
[05:41] <Squee-D> sill me, it needs x running
[05:41] <crimsun> Urthmover: do you have physical access to the machine?
[05:42] <Urthmover> there are NO vnc in /etc/init.d
[05:42] <Urthmover> no crimsun
[05:42] <Urthmover> I only have SSH
[05:42] <dooglus> Urthmover: ubuntu uses vino
[05:42] <RememberPOL> Is 6.04 a stable version?
[05:42] <Urthmover> so how do I get vnc back up?
[05:42] <dooglus> Urthmover: and it's run by the user, not during the boot
[05:42] <IRCMonkey> can anyone tell me if there is a website that i can find softwares that run on linux?
[05:42] <Urthmover> ok dooglus...how do I check everything from SSH and get it back up?
[05:42] <linlin> i cannot install wine :(
[05:43] <chapium> anyone here remember the name of gnome's irc channel?
[05:43] <RememberPOL> #gnome
[05:43] <RememberPOL> LOL
[05:43] <dabaR> IRCMonkey: use synaptic to install software on Ubuntu. http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html will sghow you how.
[05:43] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Is 6.04 a stable release?
[05:43] <chapium> RememberPOL, I mistyped, i meant server
[05:43] <dooglus> Urthmover: I did it a few days ago.  I think what I did was installed "vncserver", used that to see GNOME, and then from GNOME configured the 'remote desktop' stuff, then uninstalled 'vncserver'
[05:43] <cyphase> how can i get flash sound to work?
[05:43] <cyphase> i followed the wiki guide..
[05:44] <cyphase> but it's not working
[05:44] <chapium> anyone here remember the name of gnome's irc server?
[05:44] <dooglus> RememberPOL: it will be in 06.04
[05:44] <cyphase> irc.gimp.org works
[05:44] <Urthmover> ok so doogius...
[05:44] <RememberPOL> chapium: irc.gnome.org
[05:44] <Urthmover> I need to apt-get install vncserver?
[05:44] <crimsun> Urthmover: then you'll want to install something like tightvncserver, which is in universe
[05:44] <Urthmover> there isn't such a thing
[05:44] <dooglus> 2006.April
[05:44] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, it's not stable
[05:44] <Urthmover> there is vnc-common
[05:44] <chapium> RememberPOL, thanks
[05:44] <RememberPOL> dooglus: Interesting.
[05:44] <dooglus> Urthmover: lemme check
[05:44] <Urthmover> vncviewer
[05:45] <linlin> !Wine
[05:45] <Urthmover> and how do I remove it (cleanly) and reinstall it then?
[05:45] <RememberPOL> chapium: Does all ubuntu visioning go by year.month ?
[05:45] <Squee-D> tightvncserver in misc universe
[05:45] <dooglus> Urthmover: it's in universe
[05:45] <Urthmover> what does that mean?
[05:45] <chapium> RememberPOL, you mean versioning?
[05:45] <dooglus> RememberPOL: yes
[05:45] <Urthmover> man I'm really new to all this
[05:45] <RememberPOL> They'll all be x.04, x.10
[05:45] <RememberPOL> !
[05:45] <ubotu> RememberPOL: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:45] <crimsun> cyphase: echo FIREFOX_DSP=none >> ~/.mozilla-firefoxrc
[05:45] <RememberPOL> 6.04
[05:45] <chapium> RememberPOL, I'm not familiar.. see dooglus
[05:45] <RememberPOL> 6.10
[05:45] <Urthmover> how do I put universe in my sources.list then?
[05:45] <sklav> dabaR, the configs look identical
[05:46] <dooglus> !universe
[05:46] <RememberPOL> 7.04
[05:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:46] <RememberPOL> 7.10 LOl
[05:46] <dooglus> I think by the time 7.10 is due, free software will be outlawed
[05:47] <sklav> the only difference is the following line
[05:47] <sklav> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[05:47] <Aviatrixie> Hi all... a newbie to Linux. Been playing with the CLI and starting to get comfortable. In my searces I found something called Automatix. Tried it... worked GREAT! But... after I installed midi my browser hung. I tried to reboot but my system hung. I did a control/alt/back and came back to a green screen.  I did another control/alt/back and powered down at the login. The powerdown scroll showed fail on Timidity. On reboot ever
[05:47] <Aviatrixie> ything seems normal now. My question... has Automatix been known to break things?
[05:47] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Did you have to do anything special to get the Intel PRO/Wireless card working?
[05:48] <nickrud> !automatix
[05:48] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is crap
[05:48] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, it has worked since Hoary/5.04
[05:48] <Madpilot> Aviatrixie: yes
[05:48] <dabaR> Yay, gnomebaker finally opens on this computer(just tried in breezy). It did not work in 410 or 504
[05:48] <RememberPOL> crimsun: I think I installed Ubuntu an a Dell Latitute L110 and the wireless card didn't work...
[05:48] <Aviatrixie> Hi Madpilot :)
[05:48] <sklav> dabaR, sethk can someone explain what the following means
[05:48] <sklav> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[05:48] <Aviatrixie> So... I shouldn't use Automatix?
[05:49] <Madpilot> hi Aviatrixie
[05:49] <crimsun> Aviatrixie: correct.
[05:49] <kotton> What is a good yahoo like client with voice?
[05:49] <dabaR> sklav: you reran pppoeconf after removing that?
[05:49] <sklav> yes
[05:49] <sklav> now that lien is not there
[05:49] <sklav> line
[05:49] <dabaR> sklav: post your interfaces for me to look at. I can not explain what it means, no.
[05:49] <sklav> im wondering why it was added
[05:49] <Madpilot> back later, all...
[05:49] <dabaR> sklav: so, did you try rebooting to see whether it now works always? Well, you will see in time anyhow...
[05:50] <sklav> always is a big assumption
[05:50] <Aviatrixie> I'm a total linux newbie... but I'm loving it. I feel like I did back in the early 80's with my ti99... my mac... my dos machine. LOL
[05:50] <sklav> hehe
[05:50] <sklav> it worked this time
[05:50] <sklav> time will tell
[05:50] <dabaR> right. Ok, well, that line means that noone in Ubuntu-devel uses pppoe:)
[05:50] <kotton> I too am a newbie and I must say I am enjoying ubuntu and all the new learning
[05:50] <sklav> i had to reboot by the way cause network restart didnt work again
[05:51] <dabaR> sklav: reboot is only for new kernels.
[05:51] <sklav> dabaR, i know that ;)
[05:51] <sklav> but when the interfaces wont start
[05:51] <Blocky> What can unzip .rar files?
[05:51] <dabaR> Blocky: unrar-nonfree or rar
[05:51] <sklav> and i figured i will test the reboot
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> just take network down with ... ifconfig eth0 down
[05:51] <sklav> and up
[05:51] <nickrud> Blocky, you need unrar-nonfree from multiverse repository
[05:51] <dabaR> Blocky: both in multiverse.
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:51] <Blocky> dabaR, Alright thanks
[05:51] <sklav> i know but is there a reason why network restart wont do it?
[05:52] <Blocky> nickrud, roger
[05:52] <sklav> like in redhat
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> Blocky, you might want to get par2 as well
[05:52] <dabaR> sklav: sudo pon dsl-provider is your network restart on pppoe.
[05:52] <kotton> What is a good yahoo like client with voice?
[05:52] <nickrud> dabaR, first, me complete (for once :)
[05:52] <Blocky> nomasteryoda, What is that?
[05:52] <Aviatrixie> hi kotton :)  I love how Ubuntu found everything. My install went flawlessly. But... it's a bit intimidating. LOL
[05:52] <dabaR> sklav: sorry, sudo poff dsl-provider first.
[05:53] <sklav> dabaR, i know the commands hehe
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> repair rar files... often what is posted in newsgroups or other places
[05:53] <sklav> im asking why network restart wont do it
[05:53] <Paradoxx> lo all
[05:53] <dabaR> sklav: well, that takes a short time, ddi you wait?
[05:53] <sklav> i waited 10 seconds
[05:53] <Paradoxx> my printer can also double as a scanner. Is there any way I can get the scanner functionality withing ubuntu?
[05:53] <sklav> maybe i was impatient
[05:53] <Aviatrixie> So... from the Ubuntu gurus here... I should avoid Automatix?
[05:53] <sklav> Paradoxx, maybe sane will work
[05:53] <crimsun> Aviatrixie: yes.
[05:53] <Paradoxx> the printer is an HP Officejet 600
[05:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes Aviatrixie you should
[05:53] <kotton> Aviatrixie: Yes it is. I have been battling to learn how to install different downloads but getting there slow but sure
[05:54] <caonex> I have two ethernet cards, one that is integrated to the motherboard, that i am currently using. The other, a 3Com 3c905, but is not present in the network configuration, why? lspci shows it as if it has been detected and a module allocated for it
[05:54] <Paradoxx> sklav: sane??
[05:54] <Paradoxx> sane!
[05:54] <Paradoxx> !sane
[05:54] <ubotu> Paradoxx: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:54] <nickrud> Paradoxx, it should, applications->graphics->xsane I think
[05:54] <sklav> sane and gimp-sane and i belib xsane
[05:55] <Paradoxx> sigh >.<
[05:55] <Paradoxx> no devices found
[05:55] <nickrud> that is an old one
[05:55] <Aviatrixie> ok... I will. It was really slick though... it installed a couple of things that I was struggling with the cli. But after my midi hang I was really scared I was looking at a clean install.
[05:55] <dabaR> Aviatrixie: you can use synaptic to install things on ubuntu.
[05:55] <sklav> synaptic is awesome
[05:55] <Urthmover> ok so I install vncserver....and it started and ps shows it running
[05:56] <Urthmover> but I can't seem to connect
[05:56] <Urthmover> :-(
[05:56] <crimsun> Urthmover: you do have to configure it...
[05:56] <poningru> so guys question
[05:56] <Urthmover> well I set the passwod
[05:56] <poningru> I have two computers connected through a router
[05:56] <Urthmover> what else?
[05:56] <poningru> one is window, this is ubuntu
[05:57] <Aviatrixie> kotton... I've come to realize you have to use the command line to really set your system up the way you want it. This ain't no Linspire!  LOL
[05:57] <poningru> how do I transfer files through the router
[05:57] <poningru> thanks dabar :(
[05:57] <nickrud> Paradoxx, http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml says it should work
[05:57] <Aviatrixie> dabaR... I've used synaptic... it's slick.
[05:57] <sethk> Aviatrixie, you have the command line when you need it, and you have the easy way for most cases
[05:57] <dabaR> poningru: there is probably 10 ways. You can try samba(ubotu knows about samba) and you can use ftp, are two ways you can try.
[05:57] <kotton> Aviatrixie: nope, it isn't windows that's for sure, lots of fun
[05:58] <Aviatrixie> But as a total linux newb I'm just coming to terms with the cli
[05:58] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you here?
[05:58] <poningru> dabaR: well the thing is I cant setup anything on my windows computer
[05:58] <poningru> I guess i can set up an ftp server
[05:58] <dabaR> poningru: set up samba on Ubuntu, or an sftp server on Ubuntu, and install a ftp client(perhaps filezilla) on the windows.
[05:59] <Jeeves_moss> ALL:  Does any one here have ANY experiance with a older Proliant server?  I get a "dropping to shell" msg.
[05:59] <Aviatrixie> sethk: my main interest is DAW apps. When I sort all of this out I want to install Ardour.
[05:59] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,  if you thought DOS commands were fun   bah!  CLI is light years ahead!
[05:59] <Blocky> Anyone know how i can play .rm movie format?
[05:59] <Nimmit> hey, when I try to run dldrconfig, I get Access denied
[05:59] <Blocky> Doesnt recognize the format
[05:59] <nickrud> !tell Blocky about restricted
[05:59] <grayman> realplayer
[05:59] <Nimmit> how can I run this?
[05:59] <sethk> Aviatrixie, first thing I do on a windows box is install cygwin so all my unix/linux commands work
[05:59] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... but I haven't used dos for 20 years!!! LOL
[05:59] <Nimmit> well, I get Permission Denied
[06:00] <sklav> later all im going to play some socom
[06:00] <kotton> Nimmit: did you type sudo first
[06:00] <sklav> ciao
[06:00] <Nimmit> no
[06:00] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   i saw you mention it earlier
[06:00] <Nimmit> should I
[06:00] <poningru> can I ssh from windows?
[06:00] <poningru> or telnet?
[06:00] <poningru> hmm
[06:00] <sklav> poningru, yes you can ssh
[06:00] <Nimmit> ty
[06:00] <sklav> use putty
[06:00] <dabaR> poningru: do you have an ssh server installed on Ubuntu?
[06:00] <sklav> its an ssh client
[06:00] <pashaw> poningru,   use putty
[06:01] <poningru> dabaR: no
[06:01] <dabaR> poningru: you wont be able to connect to it from anywhere then.
[06:01] <dabaR> Using ssh, that is.
[06:01] <Aviatrixie> sethk: I was so afraid grub would trash my mbr that I pulled my big drive and stuck in a 20gb I had lying around. I'm strictly Ubuntu now.
[06:01] <poningru> right
[06:01] <poningru> what about telnet?
[06:01] <Jeeves_moss> poningru:  do you know anything about how to fix a "dropping to shell" issue?
[06:01] <dabaR> poningru: windows has a built in telnet client in the command prompt.
[06:01] <poningru> Jeeves_moss: when does it drop to shell?
[06:01] <sethk> Aviatrixie, that's good, but occasionally work requires me to use windows.  and I need the money to pay the rent
[06:01] <Aviatrixie> Besides... the best way to learn a new os is to ONLY use it.
[06:01] <poningru> dabaR: do I need to set up a telnet server on linux?
[06:02] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, dropping to shell can be caused by any failure in boot after a certain point, so you need to tell us what happens just _before_ it says dropping to shell
[06:02] <sethk> Aviatrixie, oh, definitely.
[06:02] <dabaR> poningru: you need to not set up one. It is not secure.
[06:02] <Jeeves_moss> it gets to boot, then gives the splash screen "calc dependicies", then looks to crash after "error inserting thermal"
[06:02] <sethk> Aviatrixie, and using it on a spare disk is even better.  :)
[06:02] <poningru> dabaR: oh that will do then
[06:02] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, ok, the quickie way to get around this is to remove thermal from the list of modules to be loaded at boot.
[06:03] <dabaR> poningru: Ubuntu does not come with a telnet server installed, mostly for reasons as above.
[06:03] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, the real way to fix it is to insmod thermal, find out what it complains about, and fix that
[06:03] <kotton> sethk: I installed on a 20gig slave drive with dual boot, I love the os
[06:03] <Aviatrixie> sethk: I understand. I just went into early retirement. LTD  :(  But I have lots of time to learn a new os now. ;)
[06:03] <Jeeves_moss> sethk: the LAST line it says is... "ALERT! /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist/  Droppping to shell"
[06:03] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, just a guess but I would check to be sure you don't have mixed versions, that is, a module from one kernel and a boot image from another
[06:03] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, that usually means that the file system module failed to load
[06:04] <Jeeves_moss> sethk: I just installed it from a bootable CD.  Is there a net d-load one like with Debian that might find all the peices I need for this older POS?
[06:04] <Aviatrixie> Anyway... from what I see so far, Ubuntu is great stuff.
[06:04] <poningru> dabaR: thanks dude
[06:04] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, there is the live cd which is very good at that sort of thing
[06:04] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, if thats the case get a knoppix cd and the book  knoppix hacks  youll be set to fix just about any mishap
[06:05] <neiras> Hello - if `cat /proc/cpuinfo' lists more than one processor, SMP is working, right?
[06:05] <drcode> hi all
[06:05] <drcode> can I run two sshd ?
[06:05] <drcode> with diffrent ports?
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> neiras: yes
[06:05] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  I tried the live CD, but it dosen't seem to fix my issue.
[06:05] <neiras> Kamping_Kaiser: Thanks! Cool to see 4 processors in that list
[06:05] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, what type of file system is your root file system?
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> neiras: o_0
[06:06] <Jeeves_moss> I let it auto config.
[06:06] <neiras> Actually just 2, but dual core
[06:06] <dabaR> drcode: would one sshd listening to two ports work?
[06:06] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, you can still find out
[06:06] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  I should warn you, I've only been using linux for a few months.  how would I do that if it dropped me to a "busy box" shell?
[06:06] <Aviatrixie> Pashaw:  LOL I've played with a lot of Knoppix derivatives. I love DSL! Slax is nice too. And BeatrIX is slick... and based on Ubuntu. Unfortunatly I couldn't get it to install on my system.
[06:06] <drcode> realy?
[06:06] <drcode> how I can do it?
[06:07] <Aviatrixie> Can you tell I've fallen in love with Linux?
[06:07] <chapium> argh rhythmbox is crap
[06:07] <chapium> it wont remember what files are in my library, and closes itself if you accidently play a file that no longer exists
[06:07] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, boot a live cd (not to fix the problem, just to do this) and run a file (I think it is file) command on /dev/hda1 (or whatever the root partition is)
[06:07] <dabaR> drcode: I asked you would that work for you... Ill tell you in a sec when I figure out.
[06:07] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  hummmm.  ok.  just a sec.
[06:07] <pussfeller> i was follwing the wiki instructions for recovering grub and it work3ed but my mtab is messed up
[06:08] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,  i dont run any of the knoppix family distros  but i always keep a few disks  around for emergencys
[06:08] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  this is my fist actual dual CPU system.  I guess I coulden't just do a simple OS
[06:08] <pussfeller> my install still has the live-cd mtab
[06:08] <sethk> pussfeller, mtab is a dynamic structure populated by the running system.  Perhaps you mean fstab?
[06:08] <pussfeller> hmmm
[06:08] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, thats prob cause it hasnt broken yet   :p
[06:09] <drcode> k
[06:09] <drcode> thanx
[06:09] <drcode> yes its good
[06:09] <kotton> pashaw may well have his finger on the pulse for the situation
[06:09] <pussfeller> sethk, ya its my fstab thats messed up
[06:09] <Aviatrixie> pashaw:  LOL the way I'm messing with things I'm sure I'll break it eventually. I was afraid I broke it tonight with Automatix!
[06:10] <pussfeller> maybe i can get one from my drapper install and tweak it
[06:10] <sethk> pussfeller, simple thing to do is to edit the fstab and fix it
[06:10] <FrankyFourFinger> goodmorning
[06:10] <neiras> Anyone know of tools that help me look at what the kernel is doing with processor affinity?
[06:10] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, ive used that for the general stuff  mplayer firefox1.5
[06:11] <chapium> argh, why does ubuntu keep sending out kernel updates
[06:11] <chapium> without any info as to why they are updating it
[06:11] <dabaR> drcode: well, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add a "Port X" line to under where it says "Port 22". Then restart sshd: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart". Then it works. To test, "ssh -p X username@host". X is the port number.
[06:11] <sethk> chapium, they like to torture you
[06:11] <Aviatrixie> At least I'm comfortable with clean installs. My kids have broken XP enough times with file sharing. (da#n browser hijacks!) So my intentions are to migrate them to Linux as well.
[06:11] <sethk> chapium, the reason is usually because the newer kernel supports more hardware
[06:11] <chapium> sethk, so my suspicions are confirmed
[06:12] <neiras> Oh, and does anyone know why rsync is installed and started by default in a fresh Ubuntu install? Can it be safely disabled?
[06:12] <chapium> sethk, its not that they hate me so much as they just like torture
[06:12] <chapium> in general
[06:12] <cdubya> chapium, I haven't had any probs with rhythmbox at all
[06:12] <dabaR> chapium: it is an international plot.
[06:12] <chapium> cdubya, delete a folder and see what happens when a playlist goes back and tries to play it
[06:12] <cdubya> heh
[06:12] <cdubya> well....
[06:13] <dabaR> chapium: see, dubya is here.
[06:13] <cdubya> heh
[06:13] <chapium> i might be ranting a bit about small things
[06:13] <chapium> i actually think ubuntu is quite nifty and well done
[06:13] <neiras> chapium - It sure is
[06:14] <Aviatrixie> pashaw: I used it to update my Jave from the Brown version that I got from the Ubuntu repo. I couldn't get the latest to install from Sun.
[06:14] <cdubya> chapium, I can't delete one anyway.....maybe it's protecting me from that issue.....heh
[06:15] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, nice,  just be aware its not recommended as it can really whack a system
[06:15] <chapium> cdubya, i havent known it to protect folders... what happened was an auto-playlist was set, one folder was unmounted, the autoplaylists still had the entries, and the program just crashed
[06:16] <cdubya> ouch
[06:16] <chapium> since a large number of files were in that, it sucked
[06:16] <chapium> then it lost the library
[06:16] <chapium> which i believe is because it was trying to uncorrupt itself
[06:16] <GTroy> hey guys, how often is it good to reinstall?
[06:16] <dabaR> GTroy: it is your choice.
[06:16] <chapium> GTroy, you should not need to necessarily
[06:16] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, im rather amazed myself   took all of 3mins to setup dual monitors, and the fan on my old toshiba laptop worked without any recompile  i was impressed
[06:17] <GTroy> dabaR, chapium: cool I know people do it with osx.4
[06:17] <cdubya> chapium, I have a playlist that loads automagically, then I can add to it and it saves any changes after I close.....but I don't see that I can delete them from the playlist in this version....at least from selecting the artist name and then trying to delete the CD
[06:17] <La_PaRCa> hey kids
[06:17] <GTroy> so I was wondering
[06:17] <dabaR> GTroy: they are end users.
[06:17] <dabaR> It is like rebooting cause you dont know how to fix an issue without rebooting.
[06:17] <j813> Hi guys, is it possible to install over an existing 5.10 just the Grub, from the Disk? thanks
[06:17] <GTroy> would reinstalling help permissions?
[06:17] <chapium> cdubya, i think i got around the issue for now since i'm just getting the music player setup
[06:18] <chapium> cdubya, however it would not have been fun to reset a ton of playlists to get that to stop breaking
[06:18] <pussfeller> do i need this stuff about /tmp/app//image in my fstab
[06:18] <dabaR> j813: what do you really want to do and know? You can not just be out of fun reinsatlling grub.
[06:18] <Aviatrixie> sawwy... was awk... pashaw... are you saying the latest version of Java can whack my breezy?
[06:18] <cdubya> chapium, prolly not.
[06:19] <cdubya> chapium, so what are you using?
[06:19] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   no  Automatix can so dont push your luck with it
[06:19] <chapium> cdubya, what what?
[06:19] <cdubya> chapium, so are you still using Rhythmbox then, or something different?
[06:20] <chapium> cdubya, i seem to have it working now so i'm using it.   I was contemplating banshee or xmms
[06:20] <j813> dabar: I installed another Distro so rather Gedit my list try to re-install Grub?
[06:20] <cdubya> chapium, I used xmms, but had some random wonkyness with playlists, so I ditched it.
[06:20] <concept10> chapium, get quod libet
[06:20] <dabaR> j813: did this distro not install its grub?
[06:20] <chapium> concept10, i read about that, i might try it
[06:21] <Aviatrixie> pashaw: I stumbled onto Automatix during my forum searches. I seemed like a bunch of hot to trot coders, but it intrigued me. Since my breezy install is only a few days old I figured if it broke it's no big deal.
[06:21] <concept10> chapium, its sooo much better than rhythmbox
[06:21] <j813> actually I did, but at 1st i didn't because I rather use the 5.10 Grub
[06:21] <Aviatrixie> oops... IT seemed.  LOL
[06:22] <cdubya> GTroy, I've heard of folks reinstalling OS X as well, but mostly because the disks get majorly hammered up.........
[06:22] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   same thing i did
[06:22] <dabaR> j813: you can try this page, and its instructions: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:23] <dabaR> GTroy: chmod fixes permissions. Reinstall resets everything to a good state.
[06:23] <j813> dabaR thanks! Happy Holidays
[06:23] <cafuego> GTroy: Sharing $HOME with OSX?
[06:23] <dabaR> thanks, to you too.
[06:24] <Aviatrixie> So... I gather Automatix is NOT sanctioned my Mr. Shuttleworth.  ;)
[06:24] <dabaR> no, it breaks systems, Aviatrixie.
[06:24] <cafuego> GTroy: Every two 2 weeks or so you'll need to boot OSX and run DiskWarrior to fix the filesystem.
[06:24] <crimsun> I don't think the sabdfl would care either way, Aviatrixie.
[06:24] <dabaR> like, a Ubuntu does not work after something goes wrong.
[06:25] <crimsun> Aviatrixie: as a maintainer, though, I find it abhorrent.
[06:25] <Aviatrixie> crimsun: how so?
[06:25] <Aviatrixie> I know the answer... but I want to hear it from an insider  :)
[06:26] <crimsun> Aviatrixie: it is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and isn't open to improvement.
[06:26] <linlin> im having trouble installing wine
[06:26] <awstott> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:27] <Aviatrixie> crimsun:  security... that rings lots of bells. It IS why I made the decision to migrate from M$ to Linux.
[06:27] <robnyc`> anyone here has ubuntu installed and can chroot to a reiser4 partition?
[06:27] <linlin> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:27] <Victorjiang> in bugzilla.ubuntu.com ,when I click 'advanced search', why it is empty?
[06:27] <sklav> damn i learn something new every day
[06:27] <cafuego> robnyc`: I doubt most people who know what chroot is would elect to have anything to do with reiser4.
[06:28] <Aviatrixie> I'm soooooooooooooo sick of AV updates, spyware updates, software firewalls bogging my system down.
[06:28] <sklav> i want aware that the comments in menu.lst for grub were actually auto config options
[06:28] <sklav> ## is a comment
[06:28] <dabaR> linlin: add universe.
[06:28] <cdubya> cafuego, that's pretty much a common problem with os x, isn't it?
[06:28] <linlin> i have
[06:28] <sklav> # is not the same
[06:28] <robnyc`> cafuego: dont doubt that
[06:28] <dabaR> linlin: reload package list.
[06:28] <dabaR> linlin: what do you use to isntall progerams
[06:28] <robnyc`> cafuego: would u know if reiser4 support is built-in the kernel or any ubuntu kernel ?
[06:28] <linlin> command line
[06:29] <dabaR> is that a program name?
[06:29] <linlin> apt-get
[06:29] <dabaR> do you know how to update with it?
[06:29] <cdubya> cafuego, thought I had read that the fs got messed up pretty often, which why folks were reinstalling and/or running consistent fs maintenance on them.....
[06:29] <caonex> I have two ethernet cards, one that is integrated to the motherboard, that i am currently using. The other, a 3Com 3c905, but is not present in the network configuration, why? lspci shows it as if it has been detected and a module allocated for it
[06:29] <caonex> this card was detected in ubuntu hoary, but its not in breezy
[06:29] <Victorjiang>  in bugzilla.ubuntu.com ,when I click 'advanced search', why it is empty?
[06:30] <sklav> caonex, try ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.127 up
[06:30] <cdubya> concept10, quod libet is kinda slick. thanks for the tip.
[06:30] <sklav> see if it come sup
[06:30] <linlin> sudo apt-get update
[06:30] <sklav> it might not be setup to come up on boot
[06:30] <dabaR> linlin: ok, and after that, do you get wine?
[06:30] <chapium> concept10, quod libet doesnt seem to be reading my id3 tags
[06:30] <linlin> no
[06:30] <chapium> concept10, oh.. looks like it is just a few
[06:31] <dabaR> linlin: you did not add universe. how are you adding universe?
[06:31] <linlin> commented out the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:31] <dabaR> to comment out means to make into a comment, afaik.
[06:31] <crimsun> caplink811_log: do you have python-id3lib installed?
[06:31] <Aviatrixie> A quick question... my router firewalls incoming, but not outgoing. I use zonealarm on wondoze to block outgoing. (a good example is realplayer phoning home as to my whereabouts). Any recommendations as to a firewall for Linux that will give me that?
[06:31] <crimsun> caplink811_log: sorry
[06:31] <crimsun> chapium: do you have python-id3lib installed?
[06:32] <dragoon> Aviatrixie: firestarter
[06:32] <dabaR> linlin: post that sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:32] <Lukian> Aviatrixie: your brain works well
[06:32] <s_grace6u> hi guys! :D
[06:32] <cafuego> cdubya: Not that I've noticed; but sharing $HOME on fhs+ between the two invariably results in Linxu fucking up the FS and it getting mounted read-only until DiskWarrior is run. (The stanbdard OSX disk tool can't repair the damage).
[06:32] <sklav> Aviatrixie, im not sure but i think firestarter will do it
[06:32] <Aviatrixie> LOL  Thanks Lukian... I think!  ;)
[06:32] <linlin> gladly
[06:32] <s_grace6u> just wanted to ask if ubuntu can't have yahoo messenger at all
[06:32] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a way for the windows like the filebrowser and stuff to be clear so i can see the wallpaper
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> s_grace6u: the yahoo client no, gaim does yahoo though
[06:33] <s_grace6u> what's gaim?
[06:33] <neiras> hot damn... default breezy install works perfectly with my megaraid dcontroller
[06:33] <s_grace6u> i'm a new ubuntu user by the way
[06:34] <sklav> Aviatrixie, did you try firestarter?
[06:34] <Yomic> Gaim is AIM, MSN, YIM, and (ICQ?) all in one
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> s_grace6u: gaim is a chat client
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, icq
[06:34] <chapium> crimsun, looks like its ok
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> napster IRC
[06:34] <Yomic> And IRC, but Xchat is better
[06:34] <linlin> dabaR http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6057
[06:34] <s_grace6u> oh, i see :D
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> *napset, IRC, blah
[06:34] <crimsun> chapium: what's ok?
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> *napster
[06:34] <Aviatrixie> sklav... not yet. I will tho, I promise
[06:34] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a way for the windows like the filebrowser and stuff to be clear so i can see the wallpaper
[06:34] <chapium> quod libet and python id3.. its fine
[06:34] <sklav> it is almost like zonealarm
[06:34] <crimsun> chapium: meaning that it parses id3 tags?
[06:34] <dabaR> the_mr_bong_show: you will have to be creative, I do not think there is a way.
[06:35] <sklav> its graphical
[06:35] <chapium> crimsun, yes
[06:35] <sklav> and allows for monitoring connections
[06:35] <sklav> internal also
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> the_mr_bong_show: terminals have transparency, i don't think nautilus does
[06:35] <the_mr_bong_show> but i saw a screen shot of someone that had it on ubuntu
[06:35] <dabaR> linlin: well. It is there, like you can see too. Paste the output of the "apt-get update", and then "apt-cache search wine", please to pastebin.
[06:35] <cdubya> cafuego, k. thanks.
[06:35] <neiras> try transset if you have the X composite extension enabled
[06:35] <Aviatrixie> I must stress... I'm a total linux newb... played with a dozen live live CDs for a month, finally made the commitment to Ubuntu a few days ago with the install.
[06:36] <linlin> ok
[06:36] <cdubya> hey tony
[06:36] <landotter> transparency can be had for anything if you run composite, but you need a fancy vid card.
[06:36] <cafuego> cdubya: I don't know though, if the hfs+ driver has been improved in kernels newer then 2.6.12. it may no longer happen in 2.6.15. But then, my wife is happy using Linux exclusively.
[06:36] <Aviatrixie> I decided to make it my ONLY OS. It's the only way to learn. I'm not about to swap drives unless I absolutely have to.
[06:37] <Lukian> hey, how can i add "always on top" to my right click menu for 'taskbar' entries?
[06:37] <linlin> dabaR http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6058
[06:37] <s_grace6u> is gaim in the ubuntu package or do i have to go look for it in the net? :D
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> cdubya, Hey.
[06:37] <batman> hey does anyone here know of a guide i can use to configure my sound card its a 5.1 creative 32bit
[06:37] <awstott> isn't gaim installed by default
[06:37] <robnyc`> anyone here smart enough has a reiser4 installed distro and uses ubuntu and is able to chroot into their reiser4 partition or knows if ubuntu's kernel has reiser4 support
[06:37] <Lukian> s_grace6u: load synaptic and search.
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> s_grace6u: it's in applications -> internet ->gain
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> *gaim
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> s_grace6u, It comes in the default install.
[06:37] <crimsun> s_grace6u: Gaim is part of ubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <crimsun> Applications> Internet> Gaim...
[06:38] <s_grace6u> thanks thanks! :D
[06:38] <tkup> what package should I install to have the file /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs?
[06:39] <sklav> batman, go to system ->preferences -> sound
[06:39] <sklav> i have the same card and it just works
[06:39] <dabaR> linlin: and "apt-cache search wine"?
[06:39] <batman> sklav, does it come up as sb live [unknown]  for u?
[06:39] <Aviatrixie> I'm actually very comfortable with the desktop. I need to find a good and thorough newbie book to teach my CLI and syntax stuff. All of the books I've bought either want to convince you Linux is just as easy as Windoze (it isn't!) or assume you've been coding all your live.
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> tkup: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a search for packages by contained file thing, that might help you.
[06:40] <dabaR> !+ask the bot
[06:40] <ubotu> ask the bot is probably to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example. to find out whether a package is in the official !repos and in which one, /msg ubotu info packagename, or to find which packages contain a file/keyword, /msg ubotu find keyword
[06:40] <nemik> does it happen to anyone else with firefox 1.5 that when visiting imageshack.us, the CPU spikes to 100%? this is crazy....
[06:40] <s_grace6u> wohoo! just got connected to yahoo via gaim...thanks guys! :D
[06:40] <linlin> dabaR http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6059
[06:41] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   start with  vimtutor
[06:41] <Lukian> nemik: that's why firefox 1.5 sucks :)
[06:41] <nemik> lukian: so it is a known issue?
[06:41] <Aviatrixie> pashaw: what is vim?
[06:42] <Lukian> nemik: ff1.5 has lots of issues
[06:42] <nemik> i looked through imageshack.us source and can't find anything to make it act like this
[06:42] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, CLI text editor
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> nemik: I'll try it.
[06:42] <Lukian> which is why it's not in the stable package list.
[06:42] <nemik> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:42] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, type  vimtutor inside terminal
[06:42] <Aviatrixie> pashaw: should I google it?
[06:42] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, no need
[06:42] <dabaR> linlin: to me your sources look fine, and wine should be there, yet it is not. I have no other ideas.
[06:42] <Aviatrixie> oh!!! It's in terminal?
[06:42] <Aviatrixie> duhhh
[06:42] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, yes
[06:43] <Aviatrixie> I told you I'm a newb!!!
[06:43] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, we believed you
[06:43] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, :P
[06:43] <Aviatrixie> ok... I'll go play with terminal.   :D
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:43] <sklav> linlin, did you do sudo apt-get update
[06:44] <Aviatrixie> awesome forum.... thanks for your help, peeps!
[06:44] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, look me up this weekend ill be on   bedtime
[06:44] <linlin> yes
[06:44] <dabaR> sklav: check out the pastebin.
[06:44] <linlin> i followed the instructions on the site
[06:44] <linlin> it still says its not a package
[06:44] <Aviatrixie> sweet dreams, pashaw   :)
[06:44] <sklav> what is the link for the pastebin?
[06:44] <bfusionx> hi
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> nemik: Mine was 4-20% during the whole process of loading the page.
[06:44] <Aviatrixie> btw.... when PMs show up on magenta... is that a PM?
[06:44] <pashaw> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:44] <bfusionx> can someone help me  with ndiswrapper?
[06:45] <Aviatrixie> you know what I mean
[06:45] <Aviatrixie> I haven't done irc in ages!
[06:45] <nemik> tonyyarusso: hmmm then i don't know what is going on with mine. it does it every time.
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) Aviatrixie it's nice you are here
[06:46] <Moxie> think someone could help?
[06:46] <Cube-ness> hey.. gnome wont load for me anymore, and i can tfigure out why.. it loads mostly, when the panel loads, it appears, dies, appears, dies, et etc for ever
[06:47] <dabaR> Cube-ness: did you add something to run when you log in? added it to session in other words.
[06:47] <Cube-ness> no
[06:47] <Moxie> help?
[06:47] <dabaR> Moxie: you have to ask to find out.
[06:48] <Moxie> ok....
[06:48] <bfusionx> hey
[06:48] <dabaR> I mean, post your question, and we will be glad to answer if we know.
[06:48] <LunchBoxG4> I have a quick and hopefully easy question about ndiswrapper. I got it running with my Broadcom card successfully, but i need to load ndiswrapper on boot. How can I do that?
[06:48] <Moxie> anyone know anything about yaboot or dual booting
[06:48] <bfusionx> can someone help me with ndiswrapper?
[06:48] <dabaR> on a g4, LunchBoxG4 ?
[06:48] <LunchBoxG4> no, AMD64
[06:48] <LunchBoxG4> my other laptop is a G4 :-)
[06:48] <cdubya> Moxie, you still trying to get that working?
[06:49] <sklav> linlin, what re the irst 2 lines? in you sources.list
[06:49] <Moxie> shit ya
[06:49] <cdubya> heh
[06:49] <sklav> they dont seem to be standard
[06:49] <LunchBoxG4> everything works magic when I modprobe ndiswrapper myself, but I'd like it automatic
[06:49] <dabaR> ok, well, Moxie what do you want to know about yaboot?
[06:49] <cdubya> Moxie, remind me.....
[06:49] <bfusionx> guys my ndiswrapper , my drivers are present, but it doesn't show "hardware present"
[06:49] <Moxie> im trying to figure out dual booting mac/linux
[06:49] <linlin> they are wht they told me to put in on the wine site
[06:49] <Moxie> i install mac first and make the partitionsa
[06:49] <dabaR> Moxie: otherwise you get an answer like, yaboot means yet another boot manager,.
[06:49] <sklav> linlin, remove them
[06:49] <sklav> or comment them out
[06:49] <linlin> ok
[06:50] <bfusionx> guys my ndiswrapper , my drivers are present, but it doesn't show "hardware present"
[06:50] <cdubya> Moxie, k. so where are you at in the process....
[06:50] <sklav> and the do a apt-get clean
[06:50] <Moxie> then i install ubuntu....and when it comes to the yaboot screen i can choose mac or linux and linux will load fine but tiger doesnt
[06:50] <dabaR> Moxie: make a small newworld partition for yaboot on the first partition that it lets you.
[06:50] <sklav> and the do a apt-get update
[06:50] <Moxie> blank screen
[06:50] <cdubya> Moxie, you've got os x in the first 8 gigs, yeah?
[06:50] <Moxie> yea
[06:50] <erick> elow
[06:50] <cdubya> k
[06:50] <Moxie> first 50GB
[06:50] <Moxie> then linux in the last 8gb
[06:50] <erick> can i ask something about emailserver
[06:50] <dabaR> erick: no.
[06:50] <dabaR> that is taboo
[06:51] <erick> ok
[06:51] <cdubya> heh
[06:51] <bfusionx> guys my ndiswrapper , my drivers are present, but it doesn't show "hardware present"
[06:51] <Moxie> i make the tiger partition a new world partition
[06:51] <dabaR> erick: just joking, ask anything, just dont ask to ask.
[06:51] <nemik> tonyyaruss and lukian: just tried it on 1.07 and same thing happens.
[06:51] <LunchBoxG4> bfusionx, what kind of hardware are you trying to make work?
[06:51] <Danl> how do i check to see if vncserver is running from console?
[06:51] <erick> oki
[06:51] <sklav> there goes my question
[06:51] <sklav> :(
[06:51] <cdubya> Moxie, and you ran the Breezy installer and installed it in the second partition?
[06:51] <eric_> hi can anyone help me install realplayer
[06:51] <bfusionx> LunchBoxG4,  It is a DLINK DWL 520
[06:52] <erick> how to forward emails in my address
[06:52] <sklav> caonex, try ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.127 up did you try it?
[06:52] <QQ_ghost> how do you mount an smb share?
[06:52] <cdubya> Moxie, methinks you at least need a couple more partitions there.....
[06:52] <LunchBoxG4> bfusionx, pcmcia or usb?
[06:52] <dabaR> eric_: which realplayer, the one in the repositories or the one from their site?
[06:52] <cdubya> Moxie, a bootstrap partition.....
[06:52] <bfusionx> lunchboxg4, pcmia
[06:52] <eric_> The one from the their site
[06:52] <Danl> n/m stupid question
[06:52] <erick> how to forward emails in my address
[06:52] <Danl> ps
[06:52] <erick> using sendmail
[06:52] <dabaR> erick: and what is not working with that? it is asking for libstdc+5 right?
[06:52] <Moxie> well i have swap space
[06:52] <LunchBoxG4> bfusionx, when you run lspci, is it listed? what about the end of dmesg?
[06:52] <sklav> erick, if you are using procmail
[06:53] <dabaR> eric_: ^
[06:53] <sklav> then just add a .forward
[06:53] <caonex> sklav, eth1 is working fine
[06:53] <erick> im using send mail
[06:53] <sklav> is that what you mean?
[06:53] <sklav> is it eth0?
[06:53] <caonex> sklav, eth0 is the one i am trying to make work
[06:53] <Moxie> 512mb swap space
[06:53] <eric_> I'm the one with the realplayer prob
[06:53] <Moxie> then the 50gb for tiger and 8gb for ubuntu
[06:53] <sklav> ok do ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.127 up
[06:53] <caonex> sklav, eth0 is a 3c905, but breezy is not detecting it
[06:53] <dabaR> eric_: I know is it asking you for libstdc+5?
[06:53] <caonex> sklav, hoary was
[06:53] <sklav> ah ok
[06:53] <sklav> i understood that a module was assigned to it
[06:53] <erick> nope
[06:54] <bfusionx> its not listed lunchboxg4
[06:54] <cdubya> Moxie, methinks the bootstrap is where yaboot lives...thus the grey screen?
[06:54] <eric_> no it's saying can't find, I downloaded the file to the desktop
[06:54] <deFrysk> eric_, wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[06:54] <LunchBoxG4> anyone know about addding "modprobe ndiswrapper" to boot?
[06:54] <caonex> sklav, this computer had hoary a moment ago and now has breezy and the card is not present in the networking configuration
[06:54] <erick> my sendmail is running but i need to forward emails
[06:54] <Moxie> yea....
[06:54] <Moxie> so what do i have to do
[06:54] <deFrysk> eric_, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[06:54] <Moxie> because it doesnt load tiger
[06:54] <cdubya> Moxie, been awhile since I've touched that old mac, hang on.
[06:54] <sklav> caonex, did you try adding it?
[06:54] <crimsun> LunchBoxG4: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:54] <deFrysk> eric_, sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[06:54] <bfusionx> its already on boot
[06:54] <caonex> however, lspci shows the card is there.
[06:54] <Moxie> alright
[06:54] <Moxie> anything would help
[06:54] <LunchBoxG4> crimsun, thanks.
[06:54] <caonex> sklav, adding it like how?
[06:54] <Moxie> ive tried mac first, second
[06:54] <eric_> i just type that in the terminal
[06:54] <sklav> threw the network configuration window
[06:55] <deFrysk> eric_, yes
[06:55] <dabaR> deFrysk: add that as a factoid "realplayer10" please.
[06:55] <LunchBoxG4> bfusionx, ok. I think your system may not see the PC card, so yeah ndiswwrapper won't either. are you sure your cardbus is working?
[06:55] <realoss> where can i get mplayer for ubuntu
[06:55] <LunchBoxG4> I ask, because mine isnt
[06:55] <sklav> --> system --> administration -->networking
[06:55] <eric_> ok thanks for your help I'll try that, wish me luck
[06:55] <bfusionx> how do I check lunchbox?
[06:55] <cdubya> Moxie, this fella is tri-booting YDL, Ubuntu and OS X, but some of the info might be helpful.... http://www.intuitive.com/blog/ubuntu_linux_yellowdog_linux_and_mac_os_x_all_on_one_powerbook.html
[06:55] <deFrysk> eric_, no luck needed just follow the instructions ;)
[06:55] <Moxie> ive looked at that already
[06:55] <Moxie> no help....
[06:56] <Moxie> i still couldnt figure it out
[06:56] <linlin> ok, i commented out the 2 top lines, and updated, now waht
[06:56] <realoss> where can i get mplayer for ubuntu?
[06:56] <Moxie> ive thought about using suse linux
[06:56] <deFrysk> eric_, also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <Moxie> but i heard its not as good
[06:56] <dabaR> deFrysk: I would add but I am in console so I can not paste.
[06:56] <LunchBoxG4> bfusion, that's a good question. I know mine isn't because its "unknown" in lspci
[06:56] <sklav> linlin, try apt-cache search wine
[06:56] <LunchBoxG4> have you looked for a wiki article or or forum post on your model laptop?
[06:56] <cdubya> Moxie, don't know about the ppc build, but it was an absolute dog for me.
[06:56] <linlin> same as before
[06:57] <cdubya> Moxie, had 9.3 on here before....went to Breezy and haven't looked back.
[06:57] <deFrysk> dabaR, no clue how to add factoids
[06:57] <sklav> linlin, did you try a different mirror?
[06:57] <sklav> example instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <dabaR> deFrysk: are you registered?
[06:57] <dabaR> deFrysk: to freenode.
[06:57] <sklav> tyr ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <Danl> fyi for those who were helping me earlier... the switch from debian to ubuntu without reinstall went flawlessly
[06:57] <deFrysk> dabaR, yup
[06:58] <dabaR> Danl: how, is there instructions somewhere?
[06:58] <Moxie> yea
[06:58] <Danl> i can tell you what i did... rather short
[06:58] <realoss> anybody who can help me to find mplayer for ubuntu???
[06:58] <Moxie> ive thought about striaght linux, and i would do it, but heres the problems ive found....
[06:58] <dabaR> deFrysk: "/msg ubotu realplayer10 is 1. blah, 2. blah, 3. blah"
[06:58] <Danl> replace all the sources... apt-get update then apt-get dist-update
[06:58] <deFrysk> dabaR, ok
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> realoss: Should be in the repos.  Try apt-cache search mplayer.
[06:59] <Moxie> no support for airport extreme (i have a wireless network at home) and none (ive found) for .nzb support
[06:59] <realoss> ok thanks tony!
[06:59] <dabaR> Danl: that is all?
[06:59] <Moxie> if i could find out how to make those two work, then i would just go straight linux
[06:59] <Danl> says im running breezy when i boot up now
[06:59] <dabaR> Danl: everything works?
[06:59] <Moxie> am i correct?
[06:59] <Danl> working on getting xserver working
[06:59] <Aviatrixie> g'nite everyone :)  danke for the help!
[06:59] <Danl> but thats a different problem
[06:59] <sirius> holap
[06:59] <Moxie> or does ubuntu do .nzb and airport extreme?
[06:59] <dabaR> OK, good work.
[06:59] <sirius> necesito alluda
[06:59] <caonex> sklav?
[06:59] <cdubya> Moxie, you'll prolly have a problem with APExt with any distro.
[06:59] <sirius> por favor
[06:59] <dabaR> sirius: is that portuguese?
[06:59] <Moxie> APExt?
[06:59] <sirius> soy nuevo en linux
[06:59] <sklav> yes caonex
[06:59] <sirius> nop
[06:59] <Moxie> oh oh
[06:59] <cdubya> Moxie, ap extreme
[06:59] <dabaR> spanish?
[06:59] <Moxie> yea
[06:59] <sirius> spaol
[07:00] <Moxie> word
[07:00] <LunchBoxG4> anyone out there using a compaq presario laptop or one of its HP cousins, and get the PCMCIA cardslot working?
[07:00] <dabaR> !es
[07:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:00] <sirius> spanish
[07:00] <Moxie> but .nzb?
[07:00] <Moxie> know anything that will work with ubuntu and ppc?
[07:00] <cdubya> Moxie, .nzb? you're gonna have to help me out with that one.
[07:00] <Moxie> usenet
[07:00] <Moxie> files
[07:00] <cdubya> ah
[07:00] <Danl> i need to figure out how to get vncserver working... so i can give the machine a head :-D
[07:00] <Moxie> i d/l ALOT of them
[07:00] <cdubya> k
[07:00] <Moxie> ive heard of "pan"?
[07:00] <Moxie> but that didnt work
[07:00] <cdubya> Moxie, you mean anything in the way of wireless cards?
[07:00] <sirius> alguen que hable espaol que me pueda alludar
[07:01] <cdubya> or what?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> I'm hoping to install Breezy on an HP Pavillion dv4150us.  Are any of you aware of issues with doing so?
[07:01] <Moxie> yea does ubuntu work with wireless good?
[07:01] <sklav> caonex, u there?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> (Google wasn't very helpful.)
[07:01] <Moxie> ive heard of getting a wireless bridge
[07:01] <cdubya> Moxie, picked mine up out of the box
[07:01] <Moxie> what?
[07:01] <cdubya> Moxie, but mine's not a mac.
[07:01] <Moxie> word
[07:01] <deFrysk> !realplayer10
[07:01] <ubotu> hmm... realplayer10 is 1; <wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb> , 2; <sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 3>  3; <sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb>
[07:01] <Moxie> ethernet bridge?
[07:01] <sirius> quiero saber como instalar programas en linux
[07:01] <cdubya> Moxie, yeah, I've used them
[07:02] <caonex> sklav, yes i am
[07:02] <Moxie> thing plugs into the wall, then you run the ethernet to your comp
[07:02] <Moxie> that work well or no?
[07:02] <sklav> did you follow the steps to add it?
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> Anything in the DV 4100 series would be helpful.
[07:02] <caonex> sklav, why hoary detects it and breezy does not?
[07:02] <deFrysk> dabaR, done :)
[07:02] <Moxie> i got a 10MB connection at home....would it be as fast?
[07:02] <cdubya> Moxie, I've used eth->localtalk adapters.....
[07:02] <sklav> im not sure caonex
[07:02] <dabaR> deFrysk: sounds ok. sirius at least ask the question, we can try, but likely won't know what to do.
[07:02] <cdubya> Moxie, worked just fine
[07:02] <sirius> quien abla espaol
[07:02] <dabaR> sirius: pregunta.
[07:02] <sklav> i had some networking issues myself which were not present on hoary
[07:02] <caonex> sklav, you meant, before, try adding it by compiling its module?
[07:02] <dabaR> Hah,.
[07:02] <Moxie> word
[07:02] <caonex> sklav, i think i know why
[07:02] <Moxie> but what about .nzb
[07:02] <Moxie> or dc++
[07:02] <sirius> quiero saber como instalar programas
[07:02] <deFrysk> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:03] <cdubya> Moxie, not sure on those
[07:03] <sklav> it might be set offline
[07:03] <sklav> is what im thinking
[07:03] <Moxie> anywhere i could find out?
[07:03] <sklav> like my 2nd nic card
[07:03] <caonex> sklav, 3com drivers could be in non-free modules ?
[07:03] <linlin> changing it to the canadian mirrors did not work
[07:03] <tkup> tonyyarusso, thanks for the link.
[07:03] <cdubya> Moxie, take a looksie.... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23749.html
[07:03] <cdubya> Moxie, wireless that works
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> tkup: np.
[07:03] <sklav> caonex, let me check
[07:05] <sklav> caonex,  what is the module?
[07:05] <Moxie> so i could get a wireless usb adapter....but what about .nzb
[07:05] <Moxie> thats my biggest worry
[07:05] <sirius> dabar: como instalo un programa
[07:05] <sklav> im running non free modules for my nvidia
[07:05] <sirius> soy nuevo en linux
[07:05] <sklav> so i can confirm
[07:05] <caonex> sklav, i am not sure i am trying to add the repositories to find out
[07:05] <sirius> poe eso no sep
[07:05] <nemik> what is the best tool for resizing images quickly in ubuntu?
[07:05] <caonex> sklav, the card is 3c905 a supposedly famous card
[07:05] <caonex> sklav, in google i saw people saying that they do not give any trouble
[07:06] <annex> Does Breezy install binary ati drivers by default?  My X.org seems a bit laggy and thought perhaps it was the free drivers?
[07:06] <deFrysk> !tell sirius about es
[07:06] <caonex> sklav, and it is weird how hoary detect it, but not breezy
[07:06] <caonex> sklav, it could be the deal with non-free modules package
[07:06] <caonex> sklav, i do not have it installed
[07:06] <DonVincenzo> what is the meaning of mount -ouid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/floppy in fstab ?
[07:06] <caonex> sklav, it could have been before
[07:06] <Moxie> no one knows what .nzb files are or a ubuntu program that will work with them?
[07:07] <cdubya> Moxie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12010
[07:09] <neiras> can anyone tell me which package provides the binary "dbus-send"?
[07:09] <cdubya> Moxie, that work?
[07:09] <albana_helge> texas
[07:10] <intelikey> neiras apt-cache search dbus-send  probably can.
[07:10] <neiras> intelikey: Gah! My FreeBSD experimentation has dulled my wits. Thanks
[07:11] <intelikey> np
[07:11] <Moxie> wow! i think you may have savaed my life...
[07:11] <Moxie> but heres the question
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Oh, I think I see a solution to a previous problem.  In order to have a /lib/modules/'uname -r'/build/ directory, I have to have linux-source installed, don't I?
[07:11] <cdubya> Moxie, that what you were looking for?
[07:11] <Moxie> how do i install that bn2?
[07:11] <Moxie> yea!
[07:11] <Moxie> it was
[07:11] <cdubya> hang on
[07:11] <Moxie> i can work around the wireless
[07:11] <Moxie> my school is all wired anyways
[07:12] <Moxie> thas NASTY!
[07:12] <Moxie> what about dc++
[07:12] <Danl> any idea what "X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting." means?
[07:12] <Moxie> .run?
[07:12] <Moxie> whats that?
[07:12] <cdubya> Moxie, huh?
[07:12] <Moxie> or even .tgz?
[07:12] <billytwowilly> hi, I've got a .nrg image (nero burning rom) and I want to burn it in linux. I've tried nrg2iso but the iso is broken when I use that.
[07:12] <Moxie> linux opens that?
[07:13] <cdubya> Moxie, .tgz you're fine with
[07:13] <billytwowilly> are there any linux burning programs that support nrg directly?
[07:13] <Moxie> what about .run?
[07:13] <cdubya> Moxie, not sure what that is.
[07:13] <Toma-> billytwowilly: nerolinux. but its not free
[07:13] <Moxie> when you d.l bn2 from their site its .run?
[07:13] <Moxie> thats what it says
[07:13] <cdubya> Moxie, hang on
[07:13] <Moxie> http://www.bnr2.org/
[07:13] <Moxie> go there
[07:13] <Moxie> scroll down
[07:13] <Moxie> linux distro
[07:13] <Moxie> .run?
[07:13] <jdmpike> does anyone know where to get FREE FONTS for linux?
[07:13] <billytwowilly> yah... I was hoping to stay away from nero products because they have a tendency to suck;)
[07:14] <Toma-> billytwowilly: well why use nrg then :/
[07:14] <GTroy> !airport
[07:14] <ubotu> GTroy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:14] <Toma-> billytwowilly: i think theres a shareware versiojn of it
[07:14] <sklav> hey guys is caonex comes back
[07:14] <cdubya> Moxie, d'load the .tgz
[07:14] <alamba> hi all...can anyone point me to a pppoe dialer in ubuntu?
[07:14] <sklav> can someone give him this link
[07:14] <shineykitty> is there a special way to install ubuntu to auto boot the gui?
[07:14] <Danl> whats the package name for xorg in breezy?
[07:14] <sklav> its to fix his card
[07:14] <billytwowilly> hmm, there is a shareware version.
[07:14] <billytwowilly> thanks toma, I'll just use that.
[07:14] <Toma-> kewl
[07:15] <sklav> http://www.scyld.com/3c509.html is where there is a fix
[07:15] <Moxie> bn2 doesnt have a debian package?
[07:15] <billytwowilly> apparently the price of betraying my ideals is one data dvd;)
[07:15] <GTroy> anyone know how to get a recognized airport up and running?
[07:15] <cdubya> Moxie, don't guess so.....
[07:15] <GTroy> sees signal strength, but no access
[07:15] <Danl> n/m
[07:15] <Danl> xserver-xorg ...
[07:16] <billytwowilly> GTroy, is it using wep or wap?
[07:16] <Moxie> so how would i install that in ubuntu/
[07:16] <GTroy> neither, I think it's dns
[07:16] <GTroy> I can ping
[07:16] <GTroy> sorry to bother you guys
[07:16] <sklav> GTroy, you can ping it?
[07:16] <shineykitty> oops
[07:16] <GTroy> yeah
[07:16] <shineykitty> didnt mean to do that
[07:17] <GTroy> sklav: sure can
[07:17] <sklav> do you have hav /etc/resolv.conf setup?
[07:17] <sklav> sounds like you have no dns
[07:17] <GTroy> no, it's a live cd
[07:17] <cdubya> Moxie, no need to install, just tell file-roller to open the file and then extract it somewheres.....then run the executable
[07:17] <Danl> ok, im totally lost, xorg install is asking for the video adapters bus identifier
[07:17] <alamba> hi all...can anyone point me to a pppoe dialer in ubuntu?
[07:17] <shineykitty> so when ubuntu is installed does it auto run a guy
[07:17] <shineykitty> errr gui rather
[07:17] <sklav> try editing /etc/resolv.conf
[07:17] <GTroy> sklav: yeah I think so too
[07:17] <cdubya> Moxie, but the exe gave me an error....I'm looking at it.
[07:17] <Moxie> ok
[07:17] <sklav> sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:18] <sklav> and add something like
[07:18] <billytwowilly> hmm. how do I enable dma acceleration?
[07:18] <sklav> nameserver 204.101.251.1
[07:18] <sklav> only use your isp's dns
[07:18] <Toma-> !dma
[07:18] <Toma-> ubotu: tell billytwowilly about dma
[07:18] <intelikey> billytwowilly hdpram
[07:18] <deFrysk> parm
[07:19] <GTroy> thanks sklav
[07:19] <jdmpike> no one knows where to get free fonts for linux
[07:19] <deFrysk> hdparm
[07:19] <Toma-> jdmpike: what fonts do you want?
[07:19] <sklav> jdmpike, try msstrutypefonts
[07:19] <sklav> and any ttf font should work on linux
[07:19] <sklav> so if you know of windows ttf fonts use them on linux
[07:19] <jdmpike> Toma-: I am looking for creative fonts, ones for a Save the Date card announcing my wedding
[07:20] <intelikey> r u correcting teh way i spelled hdpram ?
[07:20] <deFrysk> !info msttfonst
[07:20] <Toma-> so fancy looking ones?
[07:20] <deFrysk> !info msttfots
[07:20] <deFrysk> !info msttfonts
[07:20] <sklav> any ttf font should work on linux if it works on windows
[07:20] <sklav> a font is a font
[07:20] <DRAGON_Ultra> getting married huh thats a no no
[07:21] <Toma-> jdmpike: i use http://www.acidfonts.com/
[07:21] <billytwowilly> hdparm what though?
[07:21] <sklav> i got married now i have all sort of alone time ;)
[07:21] <DRAGON_Ultra> lol
[07:21] <billytwowilly> stupid nero shouldn't beak and complain if it isn't going to give me the command to run;)
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> Say, do you have to defrag the drive routinely in Linux like you do with Windows?
[07:21] <DRAGON_Ultra> no
[07:21] <dAndy> I keep getting this error when trying to upgrade the locales package (during an upgrade to dapper from breezy): /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: line 5: /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local: No such file or directory
[07:21] <deFrysk> !info msttcorefonts
[07:21] <shineykitty> so when ubuntu is installed does it auto run a gui
[07:21] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[07:21] <deFrysk> thast the one :ds
[07:21] <dAndy> any one seen tat before, or where I can grab that file to stick in place?
[07:23] <cdubya> Moxie, I'm still looking.....hang on
[07:24] <billytwowilly> oohh... nero has "ultra buffer"!!!!
[07:25] <xml> hello, how did I can remove the gnome and begin to use the fluxbox ?
[07:25] <Moxie> ok
[07:25] <billytwowilly> xml, you probably don't want to remove gnome, because lots of apps use its various libraries.
[07:25] <cdubya> Moxie, klibido
[07:25] <shineykitty> so when ubuntu is installed does it auto run a gui
[07:25] <cdubya> Moxie, it supports nzb
[07:25] <intelikey> dAndy you could try uninstalling locals before the upgrade and see if it will work... but that is just a thought.
[07:25] <billytwowilly> xml, you probably just want to do a "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"
[07:25] <gwynm> Hi! Is it currently possible to do a netboot install at all? I'm getting the problem in  http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20051213.191139.85c191e0.en.html ..
[07:25] <cdubya> Moxie, and there's a debian package....
[07:26] <billytwowilly> xml, Then select fluxbox in gdm
[07:26] <cdubya> Moxie, you'll have to follow the docs to convert it to a package ubuntu can use....but it looks fairly straighforward....
[07:26] <GTroy> sklav: how do I find the ip I need to enter?
[07:26] <dAndy> intelikey: yeah i did that, but now things need locales
[07:26] <xml> billytwowilly, yes
[07:27] <billytwowilly> xml, so run  that command, and then select fluxbox and you should be fine.
[07:27] <dAndy> intelikey: I touched the missing file which appeared to work, now I just need to figure out which other locale packages I need to make my system good again
[07:27] <cdubya> Moxie, take that back..... sudo apt-get install klibido
[07:27] <sklav> how does 1 add fonts
[07:27] <sklav> hehe
[07:27] <billytwowilly> xml, although if you didn't know how to do that, I don't know if fluxbox is necessarily the right desktop for you.
[07:27] <xml> billytwowilly, the terminal says that impossible find the fluxbox
[07:27] <chapium> ubotu tell sklav about fonts
[07:28] <billytwowilly> xml, you don't have universe and multiverse package repositories enabled.
[07:28] <shineykitty> so when ubuntu is installed does it auto run a gui
[07:28] <GTroy> chapium: sklav was making a joke
[07:28] <cdubya> Moxie, will that work?
[07:28] <gwynm> shineykitty: Yes.
[07:28] <intelikey> dAndy apt-cache searvh locale- | less
[07:28] <xml> billytwowilly, what interface you use?
[07:28] <chapium> GTroy, i glance at the chat now and then :(
[07:28] <Moxie> klibido?
[07:28] <Moxie> what is that?
[07:29] <billytwowilly> xml, I use the command line, but I'm not walking you through adding sources manually. You canre ad thew ebsite for that.
[07:29] <pussfeller> !fonts
[07:29] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[07:29] <xml> okay
[07:29] <cdubya> Moxie, a usenet client for kde
[07:29] <billytwowilly> xml, I think synaptic lets you set them up automagically though.
[07:29] <cdubya> Moxie, with nzb support
[07:29] <Moxie> i thought ubuntu was gnome?
[07:29] <cdubya> Moxie, :)
[07:29] <neiras> !snmp
[07:29] <ubotu> Not a clue, neiras
[07:29] <cdubya> Moxie, you can still install it.
[07:29] <Moxie> oh
[07:29] <Moxie> how?
[07:30] <Moxie> and does klibido work with mac or ppc?
[07:30] <Moxie> cause i know wine doesnt work with ppc
[07:30] <cdubya> Moxie, should be np
[07:30] <cdubya> Moxie, heh, no it doesn't
[07:30] <Moxie> sweet dud
[07:30] <billytwowilly> xml, if you open up synaptic, click settings at the top and then repositories and I think you can add universe and multiverse there easily.
[07:30] <Moxie> that sucks
[07:30] <Moxie> thats sweet
[07:30] <Moxie> maybe ill try on the live cd first
[07:31] <Moxie> before i erase tiger!
[07:31] <Moxie> AGAIN!
[07:31] <robotgeek> woot! airport extreme works!
[07:31] <Moxie> what?
[07:31] <Moxie> since when?
[07:31] <robotgeek> Moxie: on dapper
[07:31] <cdubya> wow
[07:31] <cdubya> that's cool
[07:31] <Moxie> really?
[07:31] <robotgeek> Moxie: i'm typing from it
[07:31] <Moxie> whens that coming out
[07:31] <billytwowilly> is dapper stable enough to use now if you're brave?
[07:31] <Moxie> can you get dapper?
[07:31] <robotgeek> Moxie: it's a bit slow, but in 4 months time, it will be topnotch
[07:31] <intelikey> 6 4
[07:31] <Moxie> no shit.....
[07:31] <chapium> billytwowilly, sure if you are brave..
[07:32] <Moxie> is there a live cd of dapper/
[07:32] <ubuntu> where can i get list of softwares that work on linux?
[07:32] <chapium> billytwowilly, how brave tho..
[07:32] <Moxie> thanks cdubya
[07:32] <cdubya> Moxie, np
[07:32] <Moxie> apprecaite your help
[07:32] <cdubya> Moxie, hope it helped
[07:32] <robotgeek> Amaranth: it works :)
[07:32] <billytwowilly> chapium, I was running hoary 3 weeks after the previous one came out;)
[07:32] <Moxie> sure did
[07:32] <deFrysk> ubuntu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:32] <cdubya> apt-get dist-upgrade...that's how you can go from Breezy to Dapper?
[07:33] <Amaranth> robotgeek: your wireless does?
[07:33] <billytwowilly> if you change your sources.list file first..
[07:33] <robotgeek> Amaranth: yes
[07:33] <intelikey> ubuntu setup your repos and synaptic will list it for you.
[07:33] <Amaranth> robotgeek: mine comes up but dhcp is broken
[07:33] <deFrysk> cdubya, and a bunch of apt-get -f install during the process
[07:33] <robotgeek> Amaranth: yes, use static :)
[07:33] <Amaranth> robotgeek: and i haven't done static in so long i forgot how
[07:33] <robotgeek> Amaranth: ifconfig eth1 ip
[07:33] <Amaranth> robotgeek: it can't seem to even find an access point though
[07:33] <cdubya> I guess I don't understand....what all do you need to do to upgrade?
[07:34] <Amaranth> robotgeek: either that or i don't know how to use iwlist
[07:34] <robotgeek> Amaranth: iwlist eth1 scan
[07:34] <deFrysk> cdubya, then dont
[07:34] <Moxie> how can i get dapper?
[07:34] <Amaranth> robotgeek: ah, i did scanning
[07:34] <Moxie> ill try it out...
[07:34] <deFrysk> !dapper
[07:34] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[07:34] <cdubya> deFrysk, supposing I wanted to.
[07:34] <xml> billytwowilly, what is the web page of fluxbox ?
[07:35] <deFrysk> cdubya, set repo to dapper and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:35] <intelikey> i'm gona wait until they get breezy stable then use it.
[07:36] <xml> look http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/version-0.9.php
[07:36] <xml> is there ?
[07:36] <aldarsior> Hi, I had a problem and solved it but figure it should be documented somewhere in case someone else runs into the same issue, or in case someone decides the issue needs to be fixed so that it doesn't happen. Where do I do that?
[07:36] <cdubya> intelikey, I'm not rushing out to do it....I just wanted to make sure I'd know how when I did. I've found rushing out on that bandwagon on other OSes is just bad practice unless you like the upgrades breaking stuff......
[07:36] <cdubya> which I don't want nor need right now.
[07:37] <cdubya> I like Breezy too much just the way it is.
[07:37] <robotgeek> Amaranth: hmm, it doesn't seem to like ssh connections
[07:37] <Amaranth> robotgeek: heh, it doesn't like much of anything
[07:37] <Amaranth> robotgeek: driver development is going so fast dapper could update it's kernel right now and probably be behind in 24 hours
[07:37] <robotgeek> Amaranth: it stops transmitting after a while, hey but atleast i can browse :)
[07:37] <Amaranth> robotgeek: so give it time
[07:38] <robotgeek> Amaranth: i'm really happy that it worked! i saw with my own eyes :)
[07:38] <pussfeller> aldarsior: the wiki, or the forum, or your blog, in that order or all 3
[07:38] <Madpilot> aldarsior: have a search of wiki.ubuntu.com - start a page there, or add to one
[07:38] <pussfeller> and a bug report too perhaps
[07:39] <sklav> GTroy, any luck?
[07:40] <aldarsior> it's a really minor issue, I think.
[07:40] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[07:40] <sklav> GTroy, any luck?
[07:40] <aldarsior> basically OpenOffice Base won't work with MySQL unless you change the order of the hostnames in /etc/hosts
[07:40] <GTroy_> yeah all done
[07:40] <sklav> so it works now?
[07:40] <GTroy_> though I used another fix I already had
[07:40] <GTroy_> yeah
[07:41] <aldarsior> I'm not sure if changing them broke something else... but frankly I don't care ATM
[07:41] <DeMoNSeEd> can someone explain to me how to get that feature here in xchat that shows what tunes i'm plaing in xmms or bmp
[07:41] <Danl> what is the name of the ubuntu package manager?
[07:41] <sklav> apt
[07:41] <aldarsior> synaptic
[07:41] <aldarsior> well
[07:41] <aldarsior> yeah apt
[07:41] <GTroy_> both
[07:42] <Danl> synaptic was what i was trying to think of... needa install it :-D
[07:42] <sklav> synaptic is a a front end to apt
[07:42] <GTroy_> it's already installed
[07:42] <Danl> not if you install ubuntu the way i did :-d
[07:42] <sklav> hehe
[07:42] <intelikey> i installed hoary on this pc for someone and they have on board nic  but no network... well gnome is so network dependand and the 'automatic sh.t' makes if run so slow at times it is almost un-usable.   any sujestions on a fix for them ?
[07:42] <sklav> apt-get install synaptic
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> Danl: True.
[07:43] <sklav> and yes if you did server install then its not
[07:43] <Danl> i know ;-) thanks tho
[07:43] <Danl> i converted a debian install to ubuntu
[07:43] <Danl> well ... still am
[07:44] <aldarsior> intelikey: you're trying to fix the network or disable network dependant automatic processes in GNOME?
[07:44] <sklav> the later it seems
[07:44] <intelikey> aldarsior they are not connected.  no network (piriod)
[07:45] <aldarsior> can someone tell me who the traitorous vermin is who changed the default character for nick completions to , from :?
[07:45] <deFrysk> aldarsior, ?
[07:45] <intelikey> yeah to disable the network stuff aldarsior
[07:45] <aldarsior> hmm
[07:46] <deFrysk> aldarsior, just change it in the settings
[07:46] <Danl> hmmm... i wonder what i have left to change over...
[07:46] <intelikey> aldarsior it used to be that you could set the completion char what ever you wanted in xchat
[07:46] <sklav> xorg should have the --tcp nolisten option
[07:46] <sklav> if not mistaken
[07:46] <aldarsior> deFrysk: er, yes... changing my defaults is not, you know, acceptable.
[07:46] <sklav> just dont remmeber where it goes exactly
[07:47] <aldarsior> sklav: it goes in startx
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> The ntfs resize function in the installer is totally safe, right?
[07:47] <aldarsior> tonyyarusso: I doubt it.
[07:47] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: it's quite safe
[07:47] <sklav> well then intelikey that should stop basic network queries by xorg
[07:47] <aldarsior> unless someone wrote an NTFS5 driver behind my back while I wasn't looking.
[07:47] <batman> hey has anyone here successfully installed kismet?
[07:47] <aldarsior> sklav: That's probably not the problem.
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> aldarsior, Have you had problems, or heard of them?  I've used it twice just fine, but wanted to confirm.
[07:47] <pussfeller> there is a wine-type NTFS driver, captive ntfs
[07:48] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: Nothing is _totally_ safe with you're messing with your HD but I've never heard of anyone having problems with NTFS resize.
[07:48] <intelikey> ok.   will that work in one of the startup files in /etc/X11/ ?
[07:48] <aldarsior> sklav: much more likely it's things like synaptic's auto-"apt-get update"
[07:48] <sklav> probably bu a while back similar issue because the system jsut didnt like to query 127.0.0.1 when it had a hostname
[07:48] <aldarsior> pussfeller: neat
[07:48] <eric_> I'm new to using linux do I need to install a firewall and anti-virus software
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, Right.  That's comforting enough I guess.
[07:48] <pussfeller> are you kidding
[07:49] <deFrysk> eric_, anti-virus ?
[07:49] <sklav> eric_, firewall is a great idea
[07:49] <aldarsior> tonyyarusso: that's just the way it was man, for like 13 years
[07:49] <pussfeller> you could always use a firewall....
[07:49] <sklav> antivirus you can get away with for now
[07:49] <aldarsior> without
[07:49] <deFrysk> linux = anti-virus
[07:49] <sklav> since there is not really any known virus for linux
[07:49] <sklav> at the moment
[07:49] <aldarsior> sklav: that's a lie.
[07:49] <pussfeller> thats not really true
[07:49] <sklav> i know
[07:50] <pussfeller> a rootkit or trojan isnt technically a virus
[07:50] <sklav> but when was the last virus for linux rampant?
[07:50] <aldarsior> There are viruses for linux, but you have to be dumber than 3 doorknobs in a bag of bricks to install them
[07:50] <pussfeller> itw sorse
[07:50] <deFrysk> there are no serious virus theats for linux
[07:50] <eric_> what about spyware
[07:50] <sklav> im not talking about an exploit in vsftpd either
[07:50] <deFrysk> threats*
[07:50] <deFrysk> eric_, no spyware
[07:50] <sklav> that is why i said a firewall is a good idea
[07:50] <pussfeller> there are worms that plenty of linux boxes have
[07:50] <sklav> antivirus will not exactly catch an apache exploit
[07:50] <aldarsior> pussfeller: administrators that are dumber than a doorknob in a bag of bricks.
[07:50] <deFrysk> eric_, unles you install it yourself
[07:51] <aldarsior> or fail to have a functional firewall
[07:51] <pussfeller> aldarsior: anyone can get behind on the gazillion latest updates....
[07:51] <aldarsior> and have ports open with buffer overflow vulnerabilities
[07:51] <Danl> what package contains gksudo
[07:51] <aldarsior> pussfeller: anyone who currently has a worm installed on their machine is a failure as a human being.
[07:51] <sklav> difficult to get behind unless you manually install all packages individually
[07:51] <eric_> ok, so I'm pretty safe using linux that's good to know.  Where do I find a firewall compatiable with linux
[07:51] <aldarsior> the last one came out over 8 months ago.
[07:51] <deFrysk> aldarsior, how true
[07:51] <pussfeller> bold words aldarsior
[07:52] <sklav> eric_, great news
[07:52] <DeMoNSeEd> in synaptic
[07:52] <sklav> its built in
[07:52] <batman> can anyone here help me install kismet please
[07:52] <intelikey> deFrysk there is spyware that affects linux.  spyware henerally works through java
[07:52] <sklav> try firestarted if your a newbie
[07:52] <intelikey> generally
[07:52] <aldarsior> If you haven't fixed your system in that time, just commit seppuku with your disk plates or something.
[07:52] <DeMoNSeEd> firestarter is very simple
[07:52] <sklav> or shorewall if you want something advanced
[07:52] <aldarsior> wheeeeee shorewall.
[07:52] <DeMoNSeEd> firestarter is simpler than shorewall
[07:52] <Jahboy> I currently run Fedora4, can I update without re-formatting and losing my apps and files?
[07:52] <Danl> aldarsior, thats thing about people with worms isn't entirely true, i used to install them on isolated machines just to figure out how to remove them
[07:52] <deFrysk> intelikey, examples ?
[07:52] <aldarsior> but less awesome.
[07:53] <sklav> loves shorewall
[07:53] <eric_> i used synaptic and intalled shorewall, but I can't tell if it's working or not
[07:53] <sklav> wont install a distro that does not support it
[07:53] <DeMoNSeEd> shorewall reminds me of mandrivel
[07:53] <pussfeller> i never could figure out shorewall
[07:53] <aldarsior> Danl: that's a bizarre circumstance and you know it.
[07:53] <Danl> :-) i know
[07:53] <sklav> eric shorewall need to be configured threw the command line or a text editor
[07:53] <DeMoNSeEd> firestarter is far easier
[07:53] <sklav> get firestarter
[07:53] <pussfeller> i like arnos scripts
[07:53] <DeMoNSeEd> even guarddog is easier
[07:53] <sklav> as mentionned
[07:53] <sklav> its graphical
[07:54] <DeMoNSeEd> yup eric, get firestarter
[07:54] <DeMoNSeEd> get rid of shorewall
[07:54] <deFrysk> ubuntu does not seriously need a firewall for desktop usage afaIk ?
[07:54] <pussfeller> a twisted firestarter?
[07:54] <mada> hello all
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> curved :)
[07:54] <eric_> do I use a command line in a terminal to get firestarter
[07:54] <DeMoNSeEd> true most stuff is turned off by default isn't it
[07:54] <Jahboy>  I currently run Fedora4, can I update without re-formatting and losing my apps and files?
[07:54] <intelikey> deFrysk there is some known forms of spyware that will affect 'normal' linux systems.  basicly they just use java and cookies  almost all browsers no matter the platform will accept cookies and exec java
[07:54] <DeMoNSeEd> apt-get install firestarter
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Hi mada.
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> yes!
[07:54] <sklav> yes but that is bad practice
[07:54] <DeMoNSeEd> or in synaptic
[07:55] <aldarsior> sklav: can you do that trick where the fuzz burns off but the sock stays whole?
[07:55] <DeMoNSeEd> true
[07:55] <sklav> that is what im doin
[07:55] <sklav> lol
[07:55] <aldarsior> Hot.
[07:55] <sklav> wonders what the woolen sweater would do ?
[07:55] <Jahboy>  I currently run Fedora4, can I update without re-formatting and losing my apps and files?
[07:56] <Jahboy> sorry, by that I mean switch to Ubuntu
[07:56] <sklav> to Ubuntu Jahboy ?
[07:56] <mada> anyone know how to compile kernel modules from source with a makefile that doesn't seem to work worth a shit?
[07:56] <pussfeller> Jahboy: not really
[07:56] <aldarsior> Jahboy: not if you want a semblance of stability.
[07:56] <Danl> neone have any clue which package gksudo is in?
[07:56] <Jahboy> yeah
[07:56] <deFrysk> Jahboy, you need a clean /
[07:56] <aldarsior> mada: what's wrong with your makefile?
[07:56] <Jahboy> didn't think Red Hat and Debian got along
[07:56] <crimsun> Danl: gksu
[07:56] <pussfeller> its not that
[07:56] <Jahboy> ?
[07:56] <royce> Hibernation on my laptop is really my last serious obstacle to overcome.  I've tried to search the wiki's and I'm not sure if I can mak it work, I thought I'd try here and see what I can find.  The unit is an HP5330us.  There are some similar models on the HP laptop page, but all have significant variations.
[07:56] <aldarsior> mada: Or rather, why'd you break your makefile?
[07:56] <pussfeller> no distro will allow you to install another distro on top of it
[07:56] <pussfeller> not that I know of
[07:56] <Jahboy> ah
[07:57] <crimsun> mada: presume you have gcc-3.4, build-essential, and linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed?
[07:57] <mada> aldarsior: i type make && make install and the makefile spits out an error, and its not mine i just downloaded the module
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Danl: No, but you can search the package site.
[07:57] <Danl> thanks crumsun
[07:57] <aldarsior> hmmmmm
[07:57] <Danl> not that i can spell :-D
[07:57] <sklav> Danl gnome-sudo
[07:57] <mada> crimsun: yes, it is just yelling at me about directory something or other
[07:57] <aldarsior> mada: more likely a problem with you than with the file. Which module?
[07:57] <sklav> according to apt-cache
[07:57] <crimsun> mada: precise error onto pastebin?
[07:57] <mada> aldarsior: the new broadcom wifi chipset
[07:57] <Danl> ok i will install that one too
[07:57] <aldarsior> ooooooh fun
[07:58] <aldarsior> does it come with any instructions?
[07:58] <intelikey> i have a little two floppy disk distro that doesn't care if you install another distro over it.... :)
[07:58] <Jahboy> so basically I'd need to backup my files and do a full re-format?
[07:58] <sklav> Danl, is a perfect example why a firewall is good pratice to have
[07:58] <Danl> i get synaptic working... and the rest of the installs should be easier
[07:58] <Jahboy> this may be a dumb question but I assume Ubuntu supports ext3
[07:58] <sklav> hehe
[07:58] <Danl> me? how so?
[07:58] <crimsun> Jahboy: well yeah, it's the default fs type...
[07:58] <intelikey> Jahboy yes
[07:58] <sklav> well Danl like me and most everyone when they started
[07:58] <Jahboy> yeah, I've only bveen in Linux 6 months
[07:58] <Jahboy> NTFS for ages before
[07:58] <sklav> they installed anythign and everything
[07:58] <aldarsior> *sigh*
[07:59] <Danl> i said an isolated machine... as in... no net connection :-)
[07:59] <sklav> now imagine how many services might be started inadvertently
[07:59] <Jahboy> whats the major diff. between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[07:59] <mada> aldarsior: negative, the readme is just what it does for you
[07:59] <sklav> i know but your an example or joe somebody
[07:59] <crimsun> GNOME vs. KDE as a default install
[07:59] <intelikey> ntfs for ages ?       how old is ntfs ?
[07:59] <DeMoNSeEd> you'll find ubuntu is pretty complete Jahboy
[07:59] <Danl> lol
[07:59] <deFrysk> Jahboy, good choice to switch to ubuntu :) you are learning fast :))
[07:59] <Danl> well thanks
[07:59] <Danl> im glad i can be an example... i think
[07:59] <Jahboy> KDE sucks
[07:59] <Jahboy> looks pretty
[07:59] <sklav> I find fedora is getting buggier
[07:59] <Jahboy> not so functional
[07:59] <sklav> :(
[08:00] <pussfeller> thats ussually what they say about gnome
[08:00] <sklav>  i like KDE also
[08:00] <deFrysk> fedora = bloatdora
[08:00] <Jahboy> really?
[08:00] <royce> Anybody wanna try and help troubleshoot a laptop hibernation issue?
[08:00] <pussfeller> never heard kde called non functional
[08:00] <mada> sklav: i figured that out when they release core 2 as stable and up2date crashed 4 of 5 times
[08:00] <Jahboy> all my gnome stuff works
[08:00] <sklav> but recently their icon sizes are borked
[08:00] <Jahboy> les glitter though
[08:00] <Jahboy> *less
[08:00] <DeMoNSeEd> no, kde and bloat go together
[08:00] <sklav> kde is to GUI as emacs is to editors
[08:00] <deFrysk> kde3.5 is not too bad
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> royce: Before my kernel upgrade when mine was working, I would have.  Now I'm doing the same thing.
[08:01] <Jahboy> so why is Ubuntu better than Fedora?
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> nah, don't like it
[08:01] <sklav> well they do have kde light
[08:01] <intelikey> deFrysk if you think fc is bload  try to fit ubuntu on a 125m disk
[08:01] <sklav> Jahboy, no need to have 10 million repos is one point
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> haven't tried kde lite, what's it like\
[08:01] <Danl> je prefere kde et nano ...
[08:01] <deFrysk> Jahboy, faster better more bleeding
[08:01] <Toma-> Jahboy: there is no better. Ubuntu is simply more geared towards newbies/new users
[08:01] <mada> bleh, lets not argue over desktop environments its as pointless as arguing gentoo vs. debian ... because in the end both sides of the arguement realize that their opinions haven't changed and now they are pissed over nothing
[08:01] <royce> tonyyarusso: thanks anyhow, I'm stuck, it's a real pain, but we'll see
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> kde est tros gros pour riens
[08:02] <intelikey> !start a disktop war
[08:02] <Danl> mada, this is true
[08:02] <ubotu> intelikey: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:02] <mada> Toma-: or those of us who are lazy
[08:02] <Toma-> mada: yep ;D
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> royce: Let me know if you solve it.
[08:02] <deFrysk> intelikey, why would I try that ?
[08:02] <Jahboy> does Ubuntu support rpm, and yes the yum repos suck
[08:02] <mada> :)
[08:02] <sklav> Ubuntu is deb
[08:02] <intelikey> deFrysk why not ?
[08:02] <DeMoNSeEd> rpm...........AH!!!
[08:02] <deFrysk> Jahboy, ubuntu uses .debs
[08:02] <Danl> ubuntu supports some rpms to my experience
[08:02] <mada> Jahboy: yes and no, there is a tool called alien that will convert an .rpm to a .deb
[08:02] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[08:02] <ubotu> intelikey: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:02] <deFrysk> Jahboy, in most cases rpms are not needed
[08:02] <DeMoNSeEd> RPM=really poor management
[08:02] <Toma-> !kickban complainers
[08:02] <sklav> why use rpm when there is likely a deb out there in universe
[08:02] <ubotu> Toma-: Are you smoking crack?
[08:02] <intelikey> what happened to the bot ????
[08:03] <Toma-> perhaps
[08:03] <Madpilot> !start a desktop war
[08:03] <ubotu> cde is much better than kde!
[08:03] <Jahboy> haha
[08:03] <Madpilot> !botsnack
[08:03] <ubotu> :)
[08:03] <sklav> !botsnack
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> !cde
[08:03] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:03] <intelikey> Madpilot ?    hmmm
[08:03] <Toma-> !chair
[08:03] <sklav> !botcrack
[08:03] <ubotu> sklav: I don't know
[08:03] <Danl> yes! synaptic runs, and instantly exists
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Now I'm confused...
[08:04] <sklav> hehe try it ubotu
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[08:04] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, thats a good thing
[08:04] <Danl> *exits
[08:04] <Jahboy> what does Ubuntu use for update (as in the thing that's better than fedora's yum)
[08:04] <Toma-> !arrack
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> synaptic
[08:04] <sklav> synaptic
[08:04] <Ricker> I have a question regarding Linux/Ubuntu performance.  I have always heard that Linux outperformed windoze and that it would run WONDERFULLY FAST on legacy hardware and I'm a newbie with linux.  I've recently installed Breezy 5.10 on a Pentium III 600 mhz pc with 512 MB ram, 80 gig IDE hard disk.  I want to set it up to be a fast web server running apache/php/mysql.  So far after having installed everything I'm not that blown away wi
[08:04] <Ricker> th the speed and wondering if the fact that I'm running the Gnome desktop is the biggest reason, or if there are several factors, OR, if the pc I have is just too old/slow.  Please give me your input
[08:04] <nurfe> apt-get :)
[08:04] <Madpilot> Jahboy: it uses Synaptic
[08:04] <Jahboy> and doesn't use repos?
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> and or apt
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> yes
[08:04] <eric_> ok, I just used synaptic and installed firestarter, but afterward nothing happened
[08:05] <Madpilot> Jahboy: yes, it uses repos
[08:05] <DeMoNSeEd> you'll see an update icon on top right beside volume control
[08:05] <Jahboy> is Ubuntu more stable?
[08:05] <pussfeller> Ricker: linux will outperform windows for server apps, but not gui wise, generall
[08:05] <sklav> but the repos are huge and consistant
[08:05] <DeMoNSeEd> when updates are available
[08:05] <deFrysk> Ricker, linux will run on older boxes but it wil not run like realy fast
[08:05] <pussfeller> you dont have to run x for a server
[08:05] <Jahboy> Windoes GUI does kick Linux a$$
[08:05] <Jahboy> *Windows
[08:05] <Jahboy> but not Apples
[08:06] <Toma-> you can get kde to run as fast as windows and with apple like gui
[08:06] <eric_> is another window supposed to open for me to configure the firewall
[08:06] <sklav> Jahboy, you opinion seems forced
[08:06] <sklav> hehe
[08:06] <Madpilot> Jahboy: nah, I like Gnome way, way more than XP
[08:06] <Ricker> Pussfeller: So if I don't use gnome, will apache/php/mysql run very fast on this pc in your opinion?
[08:06] <DeMoNSeEd> yup, that blue screen of death is sure pretty
[08:06] <Danl> any ideas why synaptic closes as soon as it opens?
[08:06] <Ricker> deFrysk: so if I don't use gnome, will apache/php/mysql run very fast on this pc in your opinion?
[08:06] <intelikey> Ricker never say to old and slow.....   this is a p1 133mmx with 64m ram and a 600m ide hdd    :)
[08:06] <sklav> likes blue but im greek
[08:06] <pussfeller> Ricker: definietely
[08:06] <DeMoNSeEd> missing depenancy
[08:06] <Jahboy> no, I am just trying to decide if I should go to Ubuntu or not
[08:06] <djtansey> are there any options for installing ubuntu without a CD or floppy? I have a PCMCIA harddrive (1GB) and windows. could i install it from windows?
[08:06] <pussfeller> Ricker: faster, anyway
[08:06] <Jahboy> is it worth the reformatting
[08:06] <Ricker> pussfeller:  is gnome a mem hog?
[08:06] <Jahboy> and learning a new distro
[08:07] <pussfeller> Ricker: all guis are
[08:07] <deFrysk> Ricker, dunno about those apps but afaIk it should work fine
[08:07] <Madpilot> Ricker: if you're running a server, you shouldn't have a GUI installed anyway
[08:07] <DeMoNSeEd> ubuntu is a fine distro
[08:07] <sklav> Ricker, your isp is probably still using a 486 machine somewhere
[08:07] <sklav> hehe
[08:07] <DeMoNSeEd> good support
[08:07] <aldarsior> Jahboy: there's not really much learning in ubuntu
[08:07] <Ricker> Ok, so I need to learn to dump the gui then obviously
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> djtansey, I think you can download an ISO, and run the install from it, but I have no idea how that works.
[08:07] <DeMoNSeEd> good heritage that's it built upon too
[08:07] <sklav> Ricker, get a small window manager
[08:07] <Ricker> Sklav:  such as?
[08:07] <intelikey> Ricker watch for cups too. if you don't need cups don't run it. it is a ram pig.
[08:08] <sklav> like blackbox
[08:08] <aldarsior> Jahboy: I abuse my systems and make them do things they were never ment to do and today was the first time I had to edit a configuration file (I've been using this Fad Distro Of The Month for like, a year now)
[08:08] <pussfeller> ricker, just /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:08] <sklav> or icew,
[08:08] <Danl> if you want a distro that will make you learn... install gentoo from source :-/ ... me's not doing that again
[08:08] <Ricker> intelikey: what the hell is cups?
[08:08] <aldarsior> sklav: ION!
[08:08] <aldarsior> omh
[08:08] <aldarsior> er, omg, even.
[08:08] <aldarsior> with lots of !s after it
[08:08] <Jahboy> the other thing is, Ubuntu being Debian, does not use BASH, right?  I would have to learn new commands?
[08:08] <djtansey> tonyyarusso: i will look that up. thanks.
[08:08] <intelikey> cups = common unix printing system
[08:08] <aldarsior> Jahboy: um.
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> I've seen a couple of questions like that recently.  Does anyone know about installing from a downloaded ISO without burning a CD?
[08:08] <aldarsior> what?
[08:08] <pussfeller> it uses german bash
[08:08] <Jahboy> haha
[08:08] <sklav> Jahboy, debian uses bash
[08:08] <DeMoNSeEd> ah rememberr the first days of Warty
[08:08] <aldarsior> Jahboy: FreeBSD uses KSH...
[08:08] <DeMoNSeEd> *remember
[08:09] <Ricker> intelikey: how do I stop cups?  I didn't even know it was running, but won't be using my linux box as any type of print server
[08:09] <aldarsior> DeMoNSeEd: remember the old days of slackware 97?
[08:09] <aldarsior> remember Gentoo v. 1.0 RC 4 ?
[08:09] <DeMoNSeEd> no, admittedly i can't go that far back
[08:09] <Ricker> pussfeller:  does that stop command essentially shut down gnome and leave me at the command prompt?
[08:09] <pussfeller> Ricker: yes
[08:09] <aldarsior> :-D
[08:09] <sklav> how does 1 stop a service in ubuntu on commanline from never starting other than removing the symlink?
[08:09] <Ricker> cool
[08:09] <Jahboy> would I have to learn new commands though, or will they be mostly the same (ls, rm, cd, make, etc)
[08:10] <Ricker> pussfeller:  how do I get it gnome to stop loading each time it boots though?
[08:10] <intelikey> ricker it may or may not be running but you can remove it via apt/aptitude/synaptic
[08:10] <aldarsior> Jahboy: those would be the same even if you were switching away from bash
[08:10] <DeMoNSeEd> i'm only into it for bout 4 1/2 years now
[08:10] <Jahboy> right on
[08:10] <Ricker> intelikey: ok, thanks, I'll check for it
[08:10] <pussfeller> Ricker: theres a services menu somewhere
[08:10] <sklav> i need sleep
[08:10] <sklav> later all
[08:10] <Jahboy> but obviously rpm would cease to exist right?
[08:10] <Madpilot> Ricker: there's an actual server install of Ubuntu available
[08:10] <DeMoNSeEd> you exceed me by a long shot aldarsior
[08:10] <aldarsior> Jahboy: I mean, some of the arguments for them are different, especially ls with it's crazy long arguments list, and especially on Darwin, but seriously.
[08:11] <Jahboy> and bins are executed the same way?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> djtansey, Throw me the link if you find something, will ya?
[08:11] <aldarsior> Jahboy: {path}binary
[08:11] <aldarsior> unless it's in your path
[08:11] <aldarsior> er
[08:11] <Jahboy> that's cool
[08:11] <sklav> !later ubotu
[08:11] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sklav
[08:11] <aldarsior> in your $PATH that is
[08:11] <Ricker> madpilot: I know, but I was initially afraid of it.  I suppose I need to remove one of my other distros (redhad, suse or mandriva) and reinstall ubuntu as a server only install and start learning from there.
[08:11] <Jahboy> I might check it out then,
[08:11] <sklav> later all
[08:11] <Jahboy> thanks for the info
[08:12] <chapium> anyone here familiar with quod libet?  Can it play streaming internet radio?
[08:12] <Jahboy> thanks to Gmail for providing a way to back up files online :D
[08:12] <DeMoNSeEd> nope quos libet?
[08:12] <crimsun> chapium: yes.
[08:12] <DeMoNSeEd> quod libet
[08:12] <Danl> Jahbot, yes!
[08:12] <Danl> *jahboy
[08:12] <Jahboy> (btw, is there a way to install from .iso without having to burn a cd?)
[08:12] <Danl> lol
[08:12] <Danl> damn i need to learn to type
[08:12] <jdmpike> how do I install new fonts?
[08:13] <intelikey> Jahboy what makes a file executable or not in linux is not the type nor name.extention but the permissions   :)
[08:13] <jdmpike> where does the truetype go?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !fonts
[08:13] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:13] <Madpilot> jdmpike: see above ^^^
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> Jahboy, That's what djtansey and I are trying to figure out.
[08:13] <jdmpike> thanks!
[08:13] <pussfeller> hd(1,1) is /dev/hdb2 right
[08:13] <Jahboy> so chmod a+x will still allow that, right?
[08:13] <Ricker> It seems like when I look up howtos for NewB's on how to learn command line linux, it's like drinking from a fire hose.  In other word, I don't know which is the best for a NewB to learn CLI linux.  Do any of you have your favorites for this?
[08:13] <crimsun> Ricker: you're already looking at it: #ubuntu
[08:14] <Danl> lol crimsun...
[08:14] <frans-th> join #ubuntu-motu
[08:14] <Danl> if i can just get synaptic working!
[08:14] <Ricker> crimsun: but ubuntu seems to focus on more GUI than CLI
[08:14] <Madpilot> !cli
[08:14] <ubotu> it has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:14] <crimsun> Ricker: no, we field all sorts of support questions here
[08:14] <intelikey> Ricker  i learned most of what i know by the 'trial and reformat' method  lol
[08:15] <Danl> ditto intelikey
[08:15] <chapium> crimsum - in regard to quod libet, where do the radio stations go?
[08:15] <Mindlight> whooohooo... I made it into the supportchannel... one quick question... I have a bluetooth mouse...and I use "sudo hidd --search" to connect it. I would like to put a similar line in a startup file that connects the mouse before I log in... anyone got a really good clue which one to use? :)
[08:16] <Ricker> Intelikey: I'm starting to realize that this is how it works,  I've installed ubuntu 3 times and several other distros already.  I've finally decided I like ubuntu the best because of it's friendliness, but I can see I'll probably be reformatting some partitions and doing it over many times in the future
[08:16] <djtansey> tonyyarusso: will do. http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html - and http://www.phatlinux.com/ has a window installer. wondering if that allows CD-less installs. then i just just mess with grub to boot from my flash pcmcia drive. i already have grub installed on this machine.. not as familiar with it as i used to be with lilo
[08:16] <Ricker> :)
[08:16] <aldarsior> ubotu: but CLI is Command Line Interface
[08:16] <ubotu> aldarsior: what are you talking about?
[08:16] <crimsun> chapium: in what sense? It all goes into your library. To add, Music> Add Location
[08:16] <aldarsior> !ubotu help
[08:16] <crimsun> Add a Location, rather
[08:17] <crimsun> I'm very biased toward Quod Libet.
[08:17] <chapium> crimsun, just checking to make sure there wasnt another view or something.   The library's not the best place for a radio thing since it never ends
[08:17] <panana2> first time using ubuntu
[08:17] <aldarsior> !ubuto forget CLI
[08:17] <ubotu> aldarsior: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:17] <aldarsior> hmm
[08:17] <intelikey> Q; what do linux users do ?        A; install software.    :)
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> Jahboy, Might want to take a look at djtansey's links above too.
[08:17] <DeMoNSeEd> it's a good app quod libet?
[08:17] <aldarsior> how do I make it learn that CLI means "command line interface" ?
[08:17] <aldarsior> intelikey: bah.
[08:17] <Danl> ok i removed and the installed again synaptic... but it still opens the instantly closes again... any ideas on how to trace the problem?
[08:17] <crimsun> chapium: where would you put it?
[08:17] <Ricker> crimsun: I understand what you mean now.  I thought when you said #ubuntu, that you were referring to the distro, not the IRC channel.  I get it now.  this truly IS an amazingly quick way to get answers
[08:17] <crimsun> Ricker: right.
[08:17] <Madpilot> aldarsior: I just changed the cli entry
[08:17] <aldarsior> gratzi
[08:17] <Madpilot> !tell aldarsior about cli
[08:17] <aldarsior> :-)
[08:18] <chapium> crimsun, well, in other media players there would be a section for it.  Other wise it would get stuck on that station as it cycles through songs.  Playlists could control this i suppose
[08:18] <kinection> hello, i have a simple question. What is dynamic vs. static? I'm looking at blender downloads and they have a dynamic and a static. What's the difference?
[08:18] <crimsun> chapium: "another section" being Another Library. In the end, it's just a Library.
[08:18] <aldarsior> kinection: the way the libraries are linked.
[08:18] <Danl> from experience, linux super users (my self not included) tend to be helpful and great at answering questions
[08:19] <kinection> aldarsior: so? is there a better? what are the benefits?
[08:19] <Madpilot> kinection: Blender is in the Ubuntu repos
[08:19] <Jahboy> was there any conclusion to installing iso without burning a cd?
[08:19] <chapium> crimsun, i guess my point is internet radio should be separate from music files that generally end at some point
[08:19] <aldarsior> kinection: static linked libraries means that the libraries the developer used are compiled into the source. This generally means that the binary is bigger, but is more likely to work as you won't have issues where the executible is looking for a library that isn't there.
[08:19] <chapium> crimsun, a lot of streaming audio does not ever end
[08:20] <kinection> aldarsior: ok, thanks.
[08:20] <crimsun> chapium: that's a simple library perspective
[08:20] <aldarsior> I didn't get to explain what dlls are!
[08:20] <panana2> is java working good in ubuntu ?
[08:20] <aldarsior> :-(
[08:20] <Danl> jahboy, i've read somewhere on how to do it before... but it may have been another distro... let me go look again
[08:20] <aldarsior> meanie.
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> panana2, Is for me.
[08:20] <Jahboy> I've heard of putting the iso on a separate partition
[08:20] <intelikey> static packages are much bulkier than dynamics but seldom give a dependancy problem  'iirc'
[08:20] <Karmicthreat> anyone know how long a 200G resize2fs should take?  Minutes?  Hours?
[08:20] <crimsun> chapium: remember that quod libet's objective isn't enforcing any organisation. /You/ do that. Use its regexes.
[08:21] <Ricker> Crimsun: Do you use a GUI or CLI only?
[08:21] <aldarsior> Jahboy: you can mount an ISO onto your filesystem as though it were a CD device.
[08:21] <Ricker> intelikey: Do you use a GUI or CLI only?
[08:21] <intelikey> yes
[08:21] <aldarsior> Jahboy: mount -t iso9660 <file> <mountpoint>
[08:21] <crimsun> Ricker: I use a bevy of rxvt-unicode windows in GNOME.
[08:21] <panana2> what java that tonyy use ?
[08:21] <Jahboy> but then you can't format the location where your ISO is, right?
[08:21] <Jahboy> I have a large SWAP drive, around 2 gig
[08:21] <Jahboy> would it be possible to load the ISO there?
[08:21] <chapium> crimsun, argh philosophies
[08:21] <aldarsior> hey Mr. Anthony Russo #233452
[08:21] <Ricker> crimsun: what in the crap is that?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Jahboy, http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html looks promising.
[08:22] <aldarsior> he wants to know what JRE you use
[08:22] <chapium> crimsun, anyways, i do not see this open location option next to add music
[08:22] <crimsun> Ricker: lots of terminal emulator windows in a GUI.
[08:22] <intelikey> well actually no    i missed the 'ONLY' on the end of that Ricker
[08:22] <Danl> thanks for reminding me to install j2sdk
[08:22] <crimsun> chapium: I'm using quod libet 0.16-1 in Dapper/universe.
[08:22] <Ricker> intelikey: so what do you do?  do you boot up to a CLI, then load gnome when you need it or, what?
[08:22] <aldarsior> ew gnome
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> panana2, j2re1.4 out of the universe repo previously, now j2re1.5 from PLF.
[08:23] <chapium> crimsun, ah
[08:23] <intelikey> Ricker two years ago i made the statement 'i'm a gui kinda guy'  and not i start a gui to check my email....
[08:23] <aldarsior> Heh
[08:23] <panana2> how i can get that :)
[08:23] <Ricker> aldarsior:  what do you use in place of gnome?  kde? or do you just not use a gui?
[08:23] <intelikey> s/not/now/ ^
[08:24] <aldarsior> Ricker: EWWWWWWW KDE
[08:24] <aldarsior> come on now
[08:24] <aldarsior> there's no call for that kind of language
[08:24] <Ricker> aldarsior:  :) ok, so what then?
[08:24] <Danl> there are more guis then just kde and gnome
[08:24] <crimsun> no desktop wars
[08:24] <intelikey> KDE ?
[08:24] <pussfeller> you can use fluxbox if you absolutely need a DE
[08:24] <intelikey> when i start a gui it is generally kde
[08:24] <aldarsior> if you're going to use X, which isn't necessary , use something that doesn't eat your whole system to display the borders of windows.
[08:24] <Ricker> I'm not trying to start a war.  just curious what people like
[08:24] <aldarsior> I use ion
[08:25] <aldarsior> other people use pwm, and blackbox
[08:25] <aldarsior> and other things
[08:25] <DeMoNSeEd> iceWM is ok too
[08:25] <aldarsior> and ice
[08:25] <intelikey> twm
[08:25] <aldarsior> intelikey: that's a joke, take it back.
[08:25] <DeMoNSeEd> E17 will be nice
[08:25] <crimsun> Ricker: not addressing you
[08:25] <Ricker> wow, I had now idea there were so damn many choices
[08:25] <intelikey> :)
[08:25] <intelikey> i like twm
[08:25] <Ricker> crimsun: I gotcha
[08:25] <pussfeller> but for a server, you dont really want a gui
[08:25] <aldarsior> TWM is not a choice except in a manner that only makes sense in a koan
[08:25] <Danl> isn't there one named xen?
[08:25] <DeMoNSeEd> E17 has some cool effects, low drain too
[08:26] <Danl> or maybe it was xemian or something like that
[08:26] <intelikey> i didn't until i learned to alt click to switch windows....
[08:26] <Ricker> well It's clear that I need to concentrate on learning the CLI.... wonder how long that will take me....seems like a daunting task
[08:26] <Jahboy> anyone used the Ubuntu live cd?
[08:26] <intelikey> yeah i have Jahboy
[08:26] <Danl> i did before i install ... why?
[08:27] <Jahboy> seems like an idea to check out
[08:27] <aldarsior> Ricker: don't bother, unless you want to be a sysadmin.
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Jahboy, I did yesterday.
[08:27] <intelikey> Ricker tab completion and man pages    best teachers i know.
[08:27] <Danl> wow, it's like im trying to run it on a 200mhz machine it's lagging so much
[08:27] <Jahboy> does it giv a good impression for Ubuntu
[08:27] <Ricker> I started with pc's when dos 3.0 was out.  Thought I was a power user.  Linux CLI seems to be scary in comparison and makes dos look like ....I don't know what
[08:28] <Madpilot> Jahboy: it's basically the same as the installed version of Ubuntu
[08:28] <intelikey> Ricker yep
[08:28] <Ricker> aldarsior:  why do you say, don't bother?  if I only want to run a server, don't I need to master the CLI
[08:28] <aldarsior> Ricker: why are you running a server?
[08:28] <Ricker> intelikey: what is tab completion and man pages?
[08:28] <Danl> dos is much easier in comparsion to linux cli... but linux cli is far superior
[08:28] <aldarsior> type a letter into your terminal and hit [tab] 
[08:29] <Madpilot> Ricker: have a read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:29] <Ricker> aldarsior:  because I want to be a linux expert in hopes that it might help in getting me employed again.  I'm an ex-netware admin.
[08:29] <Danl> is kpackage any good?
[08:29] <intelikey> ricker in a terminal type ' apt[tab] [tab]  '  where [tab]  is the real tab key.
[08:29] <aldarsior> Danl: hey - you know, I heard, that driving a ford fiesta's automatic is easier than driving an audi manual.
[08:30] <aldarsior> Ricker: Very well.
[08:30] <Danl> manuals are more fun tho
[08:30] <leather_n_luv> how do you map an smb share?
[08:30] <aldarsior> Danl: and audis are just better cars than fords.
[08:30] <Ricker> aldarsior:  do linux guess get paid more than minimum wage I hope?
[08:30] <Danl> what was your statement in reference to?
[08:31] <Ricker> aldarior: *admins, not "guess"
[08:31] <aldarsior> Danl: that ridiculous thing you said about DOS vs. Bash
[08:31] <intelikey> oh now it's an automobile war  :)
[08:31] <Danl> i think bash is much better... but thats my opinion
[08:31] <aldarsior> Ricker: I don't know, I don't know what the employment market is like at all.
[08:31] <Madpilot> intelikey: bah, everyone knowss that bicycles are superior :P
[08:31] <aldarsior> Danl: only because you're not insane.
[08:32] <pussfeller> the market for linux is only going to get better and better
[08:32] <pussfeller> in the long run
[08:32] <aldarsior> hopeless romantics.
[08:32] <Danl> well.... that might not be entirely true... my sanity is still debatable
[08:32] <crimsun> well it's nice to have a goal.
[08:32] <pussfeller> unless MS can lock things down with hollywood and or using IP& the govt
[08:33] <crimsun> in any case, this discussion really belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <intelikey> Ricker :)    yeah       hey also if you are sirious about cli you are also gonna like the scroll back ability in the console    hold down a shift and hit page-up  :)
[08:33] <intelikey> note that is "console"  not terminal.
[08:33] <pussfeller> theres pleanty of bash tuts out there
[08:34] <Jahboy> does Ubuntu use Bash?
[08:34] <Ricker> intelikey: good tips.    What did you mean by the "man pages" ?
[08:34] <Jahboy> btw, I'm downloadin the live cd now
[08:34] <Jahboy> I decided to go ahead and burn
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jahboy: yes
[08:34] <Jahboy> it's nice it's only 1 cd
[08:34] <Jahboy> Fedora had 4!
[08:34] <intelikey> Ricker in the terminal type 'man man '   :)
[08:34] <Danl> always good to have the cd laying around
[08:35] <Ricker> intelikey:  ok, cool.  Thanks all, this should get me started.
[08:35] <Danl> just never type 'man woman' :-)
[08:35] <Madpilot> Ricker: typing "q" gets you out of man pages, btw - also try "man intro"
[08:35] <Ricker> madpilot.  cool, ty
[08:35] <intelikey> man woman   "E: there is no know command line interface for woman"
[08:36] <pussfeller> aint that the truth
[08:36] <Madpilot> Ricker: also, do read that wiki URL for some more info
[08:37] <Danl> i was refering to a t-shirt i bought... says something about segmentation fault... after you man woman :-)
[08:37] <Ricker> madpilot.  will do.  I've cut & pasted all of these suggestions as always.  good stuff.
[08:37] <pussfeller> it would be nice to be able to type, wiki "Elvis Presley" and get a text formated entry....
[08:38] <pussfeller> hmmm
[08:38] <GTroy_> anyone know if I can put my ibook with the live cd to sleep?
[08:39] <encompass> I am a little confused, isn't there a 686 kenrel for ubuntu?
[08:39] <Ricker> intelikey: why do you like twm?  and, is it difficult to get setup & configed?
[08:39] <Kaiser_Away> yes, but not on the cd
[08:39] <encompass> on the web
[08:39] <Danl> 2 gigs is too small of a partition for a full ubuntu install isn't it?
[08:39] <intelikey> output info to | tr '[a-z] ' '[A-Z] '
[08:39] <deFrysk> encompass, linux-686
[08:39] <encompass> full install... yeah
[08:39] <intelikey> Ricker i'm a bit of a minimalest
[08:39] <GTroy_> Kaiser_Away: ?
[08:39] <Madpilot> Danl: the full install is about 1.8Gb or so
[08:40] <Ricker> Intelikey:  hey I'm all for that
[08:40] <Kaiser_Away> GTroy_ it was an answer to encompass
[08:40] <encompass> oops
[08:40] <encompass> looked right over it
[08:40] <GTroy_> ohh, sorry
[08:40] <Ricker> intelikey: I take it twm must be very small?
[08:40] <Danl> ok... i need to go change the image size then... maybe make it about 8 gigs
[08:40] <intelikey> if you install xsercer-xorg and then add a window manager twm is 'i recon' as small as they come.
[08:41] <intelikey> xserver-xorg even
[08:42] <Ricker> intelikey:  ok.  do you have any links that I can read specifically about this.  I can google for it. but if you had anything handy at your fingertips...
[08:42] <intelikey> no i keep most of my docs in human ram disk
[08:43] <intelikey> so it is xester
[08:44] <xester> yap 07:45am :p
[08:44] <Danl> should ubuntu-base package be installed?
[08:44] <intelikey> gmt+1 eeh
[08:44] <Danl> n/m
[08:45] <intelikey> Danl iv'e ran it both ways....
[08:45] <linlin> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables .... any ideas?
[08:45] <crimsun> linlin: install build-essential
[08:45] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:45] <ubotu> well, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:45] <Lukian> Danl: lol  :)
[08:45] <Danl> i was bad... i asked before i read ... :-/
[08:45] <linlin> it is installed
[08:46] <linlin> build-essential is already the newest version.
[08:46] <linlin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[08:46] <Noom> hi
[08:46] <crimsun> linlin: apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[08:46] <djtansey> tonyyarusso: http://sourceforge.net/projects/instlux and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[08:46] <Noom> there are an italian boy?? :D
[08:46] <intelikey> linlin no write permission on the dir ?
[08:46] <moquist> Is Dapper considered more stable at this point in the cycle than Breezy was?
[08:47] <Lukian> Noom: plenty of italian boy! filled with HIV!
[08:47] <crimsun> moquist: yes/no
[08:47] <moquist> now
[08:47] <linlin> still says it crimsun
[08:47] <yeou_by> hello
[08:47] <moquist> crimsun: thx
[08:47] <linlin> intelikey im running the command in sudo, sould be fine
[08:47] <chapium> crimsun, thanks for the tip on quod .16.. that thing's a piece of cake to install
[08:48] <crimsun> linlin: post your config.log
[08:48] <Ricker> anyone here have wordpress installed on a linux server of their own ?
[08:49] <Lukian> i'm gonna reboot for the kernel update
[08:51] <Danl> i know have a fully working ubuntu install... updated from debian sid, running as a service in xp :-)... could it get any stranger?
[08:51] <Ricker> Are there any printed Linux manuals that are better than the free stuff that you can get online in YOUR opinion. anyone?
[08:51] <crimsun> Ricker: ora.com
[08:51] <Madpilot> Ricker: some of the O'Reilly books are good
[08:51] <Ricker> crimsun: why so?
[08:52] <moquist> Ricker: O'Reilly books are usually very good
[08:52] <Ricker> madpilot:  I've liked a lot of O'reilly stuff.  I have got to the point, at least in the habit from windoze, that the manuals you buy seem to get out of date so fast.
[08:52] <intelikey> i hadn't really noticed that root just flatly ignores permission.... i guess i'd never thought about it.
[08:52] <Ricker> that's why I ask the question regarding if it's just best to stay with the free docs out there
[08:52] <Madpilot> Ricker: the command line/server stuff doesn't get outdated quite as fast, from what I've seen
[08:53] <crimsun> intelikey: wouldn't make much sense in being "super" otherwise...
[08:53] <Ricker> madpilot: I see.
[08:53] <moquist> Ricker: I agree with Madpilot, and even if they do go out of date, they've often been so much more useful to me than online material that it would have been worth it anyway.
[08:54] <Ricker> moquist: really?  that's interesting.  ok, so what in particular would recommend to learn linux for a newb?
[08:54] <moquist> Ricker: It also depends on the topic.  For, say, PHP docs, php.net is where I go.  I assume ORA has several PHP books, but I'd never buy one.
[08:54] <moquist> Ricker: what do you do, and what do you want to do?  desktop user?  programmer?  system administrator?
[08:54] <Ricker> I have fairly good php/mysql manual that I bought that' not too bad.
[08:54] <intelikey> well crimsun when root owns something like say /root/*  i just thought it need at least 700 on the dir.    but i just did a 'chmod 000 /root -R '  to test and root dont care.... it ignores all premissions.
[08:55] <Ricker> I'm a programmer &, somewhat of a sys admin...
[08:55] <moquist> Ricker: Learning the Bash Shell
[08:55] <Ricker> also picking up C#.net...
[08:55] <moquist> Ricker: that's definitely what I recommend first and most highly
[08:56] <Ricker> moquist:  that's a book by o'reilly?
[08:56] <moquist> Ricker: And after that, I'd have to say the ORA DNS book has changed my life the most.  :)
[08:56] <Ricker> moquist:  I just found it.
[08:56] <moquist> Ricker: yep.
[08:57] <moquist> Ricker: unless you're already quite comfortable on the command line, and comfortable learning on your own -- and even if you're both -- that book will solidly ground you.
[08:57] <Ricker> moquist:  DNS has always frustrated me.  at least in the WINDOZE world.  I definately need to read something that will help dispel the cloudiness of that
[08:57] <moquist> Ricker: there are some other good shell intro books, but that one's an excellent starting point.
[08:58] <moquist> Ricker: then the ORA DNS book is where you want to go.
[08:58] <moquist> IMO
[08:58] <Ricker> moquist:  ok. I've found it and will check it out
[08:58] <moquist> cool
[08:58] <moquist> best of luck to you
[08:58] <moquist> Ricker: make sure you read the intro in the DNS book; the history will help you wrap your mind around the whole thing
[08:58] <claes> Ricker, Listen to moquist. The ORA book about Bind and DNS is worth it weight in gold.
[08:58] <moquist> Ricker: that's "Bind and DNS", in case they have other DNS books as well
[08:59] <Ricker> moquist: is "bind and dns" the name of the book i want?
[08:59] <moquist> Ricker: yep
[09:00] <moquist> Ricker: well, I was close.  very close.  ;) http://tinyurl.com/baj8d (amazon.com)
[09:00] <Ricker> moquist: ok excellent.  I'll start reading that as soon as I've finished reading "Learn Windows 95 in 21 days"
[09:00] <Ricker> just kidding
[09:00] <moquist> ha!
[09:01] <moquist> heh; I just got why there's a cricket on the cover.
[09:01] <Danl> what would cause kde windows to roll up when ever focus is lost?
[09:01] <Yomic> 21 seconds mabey
[09:01] <Yomic> maybe*
[09:01] <intelikey> 21 days.  bah.   it took me 22 days.
[09:01] <Yomic> :D
[09:01] <Danl> took me more time to learn 3.1 ;-)
[09:02] <intelikey> 3.1 was nice for the time.
[09:02] <Ricker> moquist: boy those books are a hell of a lot cheaper from amazon that from o'reilly direct.
[09:02] <intelikey> it was like going from dos to bash
[09:02] <Ricker> danl: that's because it crashed so often
[09:03] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[09:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone knows a good program can I use on linux to edit and make websites? like dreamweaver?
[09:04] <Ricker> moquist:  so why is it that there is a cricket on the cover? as opposed to the many other insects/animals o'reilly used?   I thought they were arbitrary and had no meaning.
[09:04] <Inf3ctedFx> I rememnber was one, but I forgot the name
[09:04] <intelikey> Ricker actually.  i've had more crashes from linux that i ever did form windows 95.
[09:04] <Lukian> Inf3ctedFx: nvu?
[09:04] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the one.. yes thx Lukian
[09:04] <Danl> lmao... i've been running this install with only 64mb of ram all night... no wonder it's been lagging
[09:04] <moquist> Ricker: look at the authors' names
[09:04] <Ricker> intelikey:  really?  well that's surprising.  I thought linux was "rock stable" yada yada
[09:05] <Ricker> moquist:  ahh  cool
[09:05] <intelikey> Ricker it can be but win95 could be pretty stable too depending on the use.
[09:05] <Inf3ctedFx> and to burn CD's something like CD CAvebrun ore something like it
[09:06] <moquist> intelikey: stable until the uptime counter rolled over and everything hung.  87 days, wasn't it?  ;)
[09:06] <Danl> 95 was pretty stable... 98 a lil less... 98se a lil more... (wants to forget ME)... xp is pretty good too
[09:06] <jdmpike> my iPod is mounting as the wrong user, how can I change that
[09:06] <intelikey> i don't know i'm a turn it off when you aint using it fellow
[09:06] <jdmpike> I want the Ipod to automount and the users group to own him
[09:06] <Lukian> moquist: 49.7 or such
[09:07] <jdmpike> can anyone help me with that?
[09:08] <j-linux> I just bought a ThinkPad T43 -- I made the restore disks, defragmented the drive 3 times, and now I want to resize the Windows partition to put Breezy on it.  I tried a Knoppix disk with QTPARTED but it didn't work.  It won't let me shrink by more than 1GB smaller.  Are there other tools I could use to shrink the NTFS partition for my Ubuntu install?
[09:08] <j-linux> I'm not sure why it isn't working
[09:09] <jdmpike> someone please help me automount my ipod to group users
[09:09] <crimsun> j-linux: just resize in the installer
[09:09] <Danl> well im off... thanks for all the wonderful help
[09:09] <Danl> au revior
[09:09] <Lukian> j-linux: defragged with?
[09:09] <crimsun> j-linux: there's no real need to resize ahead of time
[09:09] <j-linux> crimsun: Breezy has a resize tool?
[09:10] <j-linux> I don't remember it for 5.04...  I haven't installed Breezy yet though
[09:10] <intelikey> weeners and nachos to you
[09:10] <Jahboy> ok, so...  back to that cd bruning thing, can't find an unmolested cd in the house, any ideas for being able to bypass the cd installation?
[09:10] <Jahboy> *burning
[09:11] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone knows a program tu burn CD on linux, I remember it was one call something like Caveman Cd burner or something like that
[09:11] <Ricker> is the "bash shell" installed automatically as a part of ubuntu?  sorry if that's a stupid question.
[09:11] <burning_bronx> Taste of blood in his mouth feel of death on his hands
[09:11] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, for audio serpentine
[09:11] <burning_bronx> Ricker, it is
[09:11] <deFrysk> for iso rightclick in nautilus
[09:12] <Inf3ctedFx> well deFrysk  for any type or data...
[09:12] <burning_bronx> it's part of the base server install
[09:12] <deFrysk> for the rest graveman
[09:12] <Ricker> burning_bronx.  it is installed or it is a dumb question?  or both?
[09:12] <Ricker> :)
[09:12] <cathelest> iv just installed ubuntu, very nice, need help with audo codec's/decoders
[09:12] <Inf3ctedFx> graveman
[09:12] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[09:12] <crimsun> j-linux: it's built into the installer
[09:12] <burning_bronx> Ricker, read above - I said it's a part of the base install
[09:12] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, if desperate get k3b k3b-mp3
[09:12] <Ricker> brurning_bronx: ok got it
[09:13] <Inf3ctedFx> ok deFrysk  thx
[09:13] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, gnomebaker, graveman, neroLINUX, k3b if you don't mind Qt
[09:13] <j-linux> crimsun:  great... I just booted the install disk...
[09:13] <j-linux> thanks
[09:13] <jdmpike> I recommend k3b
[09:13] <Ricker> burning_bronx:  when I open a terminal window from inside gnome, am I essentially running an instance of bash, or something else?
[09:13] <crimsun> j-linux: when you choose to install Breezy on your HD, use the guided partitioning option, select the NTFS partition, choose a smaller size, and install Ubuntu there. The NTFS partition is resized transparently.
[09:13] <deFrysk> !tell cathelest bot restricted formats
[09:14] <bnD> hi, i just did a fresh install and dont want to rebuild my fluxbox menu, can someone tell me what to type to have menu automatically generate one?
[09:14] <cathelest> eh
[09:14] <deFrysk> !tell cathelest bot restrictedformats
[09:14] <burning_bronx> Ricker, I think it's more of a terminal emulator but it does the same job
[09:14] <burning_bronx> why?
[09:14] <deFrysk> !tell cathelest about restrictedformats
[09:14] <intelikey> bot ?
[09:14] <intelikey> about ?
[09:14] <Ricker> trying to get an understanding of bash, terminal windows, etc.
[09:14] <deFrysk> intelikey, I am not really awake
[09:14] <cathelest> !tell
[09:14] <j-linux> crimsun: thanks... it is loading now.
[09:15] <ReverendNathan> Hello, I have a question on mounting partitions.
[09:15] <cathelest> ah
[09:15] <intelikey> which half ?
[09:15] <burning_bronx> !bash
[09:15] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[09:15] <burning_bronx> !terminal
[09:15] <Ricker> does anyone know if I can get ubuntu to run on my TI 99/4A with 16k of RAM and a cassette recorder as my permanent storage?
[09:15] <deFrysk> intelikey, the good half ;p
[09:15] <ReverendNathan> I used this script: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28partition%29
[09:15] <intelikey> :)
[09:15] <Ricker> :)
[09:15] <ReverendNathan> But I don't like the ugly name it gave my partition
[09:16] <ReverendNathan> Can I undo the script somehow, and do mounting manually?
[09:16] <burning_bronx> ReverendNathan, why using scripts?
[09:16] <burning_bronx> you can just add a row in fstab
[09:16] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone remember the path to GROUP to edit group?
[09:16] <ReverendNathan> I was a newbie, I realize how to do stuff now
[09:16] <intelikey> 16k of ram   is a no go.
[09:16] <burning_bronx> and it will give it whatever name you need
[09:16] <ReverendNathan> I'm actually learning faster; faster than DOS/Windows
[09:16] <Ricker> intelikey:  was only kidding
[09:16] <bnD> anyone here use fluxbox?
[09:17] <ReverendNathan> If I were to remove it from the /etc/fstab list, restart, would it be gone?
[09:17] <burning_bronx> ReverendNathan, yeh
[09:17] <ReverendNathan> Alright, I'm off! I'll tell you if it worked.
[09:18] <intelikey> Ricker i've got linux on a 486 lappy with 16m of ram  and only a floppy drive  212m hdd  no nic.
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone remember the path to edit group?
[09:18] <burning_bronx> intelikey, what kind of install did you use O_O
[09:18] <Ricker> intelikey:  wow.  that really is impressive.  amazing in fact.
[09:18] <intelikey> it's an old nec versa ultra-lite
[09:18] <jdmpike> no one can help me with automount?!?!?!
[09:18] <Toma-> intelikey: slackware?
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> is /boot/group?
[09:19] <burning_bronx> what kind of groups are you trying to edit?
[09:19] <Toma-> intelikey: or lfs? :D
[09:19] <intelikey> burning_bronx installed on a desktop then made a tar.gz out of the whole thing and copied it over one 1.44 diak at a time.
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> BurgerMann:  like lilo... but is group
[09:19] <intelikey> Toma- mdk 9.0
[09:20] <Ricker> intelikey:  why would a guy want linux on a box with no nic though?
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> grub
[09:20] <Toma-> oh wow
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry
[09:20] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, grub
[09:20] <burning_bronx> hah
[09:20] <Toma-> how very tedious
[09:20] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, just do sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:20] <Ricker> intelikey: what can a guy do with no nic?
[09:20] <intelikey> Ricker why not ?
[09:20] <ReverendNathan> Hey alright it worked!
[09:20] <burning_bronx> !grub
[09:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:20] <Ricker> intelikey:  oh ok.  because it's there.  I get it.
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> cuz everytime I reboot my box it shows me like 7 ubuntu lol
[09:20] <linlin> how do i mount /deb/hdb1 read/write?
[09:21] <ReverendNathan> @linin Is is a FAT32 drive?
[09:21] <intelikey> Ricker you are catching on.....      and what do linux users do ?
[09:21] <linlin> no i just made it with cfdisk
[09:21] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, just do "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and the comment out the things you don't want to see in the grub menu
[09:21] <intelikey> they install software....
[09:21] <Ricker> intelikey:  hack, because it's just fun?
[09:21] <bnD> can someone help me generate a fluxbox menu? the menu package didnt do squat..
[09:21] <claes> linlin, mount -o remount,rw /dev/hdb1
[09:22] <Toma-> Inf3ctedFx: or, remove the kernels you dont use with synaptic. but be absolutely certain that you keep at least 2
[09:22] <Inf3ctedFx> thats is waht I'm going to do
[09:22] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u my menu.lst
[09:22] <Toma-> removing the kernels with apt or synaptic will remove the grub lines itself
[09:22] <chapium> can one print /dev/dsp to a file and then convert it to ogg or mp3 or whatnot?
[09:22] <claes> linlin, If it's already mounted else you have to edit /etc/fstab and then mount <mountpoint>
[09:22] <burning_bronx> true
[09:22] <intelikey> actually i wrote some 'bash scripts' that i use all the time and it seemed a wiser choice to use linux for that than try to make linux out of M$ dos
[09:23] <linlin> actually, how do i format /dev/hdb1 to ext3 ?
[09:23] <burning_bronx> O_O
[09:23] <Ricker> ok, thanks everyone.  I always love this channel.  learning a ton.    I'm  going to hit the sack.  later all
[09:23] <Inf3ctedFx> look burning_bronx  -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6062
[09:23] <claes> linlin, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[09:23] <Toma-> linlin: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[09:23] <linlin> thamks
[09:24] <linlin> wow doesnt ask if im sure or anything :p
[09:24] <claes> linlin, Of course not. You wrote the command then you want to do it. :-)
[09:24] <linlin> heh suppose so :)
[09:25] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, if you have no problems with your latest kernel then comment out lines 10 to 53 OR remove these kernels from synaptic/apt-get
[09:25] <jdmpike> linlin, can you help me with a newb mount/perms problem?
[09:25] <intelikey> and 'no error' is 'no error' in linux.
[09:25] <linlin> i guess i can try
[09:25] <Toma-> anyone heard of a way to install a 2.4 kernel in breezy?
[09:25] <burning_bronx> commenting out works by putting a # in the beginning of a line
[09:25] <Inf3ctedFx> burning_bronx:  I dont have a  problem with the lates one.. but how can I remove those kernels?
[09:25] <claes> intelikey, Silence means no error too. :-)
[09:26] <intelikey> claes that's what i said.
[09:26] <linlin> mbluntman@68-66-50-66:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hdb1 /storage
[09:26] <linlin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:26] <claes> linlin, mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /storage
[09:26] <linlin> ah got it
[09:27] <claes> linlin, And edit /etc/fstab so you don't need to do that every reboot. Well it's Linux you never reboot. But if......
[09:27] <freewoody> Hi all
[09:27] <Jahboy> with the live cd, do I treat it as a boot disk or execute it within Fedora?
[09:27] <intelikey> linlin that probably means that /storage does not exist of you have the wrong device.
[09:27] <Toma-> claes: except for when something locks up hard :D
[09:27] <freewoody> Can sombody help me install TTF Fonts in Ubunut Linux ?
[09:28] <Madpilot> !fonts
[09:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:28] <claes> Toma-, Or when you upgrade the kernel.
[09:28] <Toma-> yep.
[09:28] <eclair> freewoody, i think you could just check in synaptic and install from there :)
[09:28] <Toma-> ive had 3 hard lock ups today
[09:28] <Jahboy> with the live cd, do I treat it as a boot disk or execute it within Fedora?
[09:28] <claes> freewoody, Put them in ~/.fonts
[09:29] <claes> Jahboy, As a boot disk.
[09:29] <Jahboy> thanks
[09:30] <victor_jiang> in bugzilla.ubuntu.com , what does RC Bugs mean?
[09:30] <chapium> can the winkey be bound to open the "ubuntu menu" on the gnome panel?
[09:30] <jenda> How do I find out the version of Gnome I use?
[09:30] <chapium> ie:  like el start menu
[09:30] <claes> victor_jiang, RC=Release Critical   (if I remember correctly)
[09:31] <robitaille> victor_jiang,  RC= Release Candidate.  Not sure if they still use it, but it used to be important bugs that should be solved before the next release
[09:31] <jenda> They use RC alright
[09:31] <deFrysk> jenda, system > about gnome
[09:31] <jenda> deFrysk: thanks - got it
[09:32] <ReverendNathan> speaking of installling TTF fonts, I wrote a tutorial on it.
[09:32] <ReverendNathan> If you can leave comments, since it hasn't been getting much attention
[09:32] <ReverendNathan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106957
[09:33] <victor_jiang> claes,robitaille,jenda:thanks a lot.
[09:33] <victor_jiang> in bugzilla.ubuntu.com ,when I click 'advanced search', why it is empty?
[09:33] <chapium> are there any alternatives to audacity?
[09:33] <intelikey> mplayer
[09:33] <intelikey> xmms
[09:34] <intelikey> mine
[09:34] <intelikey> no xine
[09:34] <deFrysk> u
[09:34] <ReverendNathan> intelikey I think he means audio editing
[09:34] <intelikey> the m and x keys are to close to gather...
[09:34] <chapium> RemoteViewer, correct
[09:34] <claes> chapium, quodlibet
[09:34] <robitaille> victor_jiang,  advanced search works for me.  But the page could be slow to load up if you are on a slow connection
[09:35] <chapium> claes, i dont believe it edits audio
[09:35] <chapium> otherwise i'd use it ;d
[09:35] <intelikey> oh not play back...... eek then scratch all that.
[09:35] <Madpilot> ReverendNathan: have a look here, and see if you can add anything: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:35] <claes> chapium, No, neither do I. Forget that.
[09:36] <j-linux> First try with the Breezy installer didn't work.  It said "unable to install initrd-tools"  So I deleted the partitions and am trying again.
[09:36] <ReverendNathan> I really am a newbie; I just switched to Linux last month!
[09:36] <victor_jiang> robitaille:thank you very much
[09:36] <ReverendNathan> I'm just learning stuff, I don't feel like I can actively contribute yet
[09:37] <ReverendNathan> But I will add to the wiki, since I do know enough to help
[09:38] <j-linux> I'm installing Breezy -- it is asking me which kernel to install.  I've never seen this screen: linux-386 right?  The other choices are linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[09:38] <deFrysk> linux-386
[09:38] <j-linux> thanks
[09:39] <intelikey> anybody know how to set a timmer on a command, so that it has 'X' amount of time to complete or get kill -9 'd   ?
[09:39] <j-linux> argg... when I chose that it said unable to install initrd-tools again.
[09:39] <Toma-> intelikey: sleep 10m && <command>
[09:39] <j-linux> Installation failed for the second time in a row...
[09:39] <Toma-> well wait 10 mins then run the command
[09:39] <Toma-> *will
[09:39] <intelikey> Toma- lol
[09:39] <j-linux> "The failing step is: Install the base system"
[09:40] <intelikey> not what i'm looking for Toma-  :)
[09:40] <Toma-> oh...
[09:40] <Toma-> i see...
[09:40] <GoldBuggie> j-linux: i386 is for general. i686 is for pentium. k7 is for amd
[09:40] <Toma-> you'd need to make a script
[09:40] <Jahboy> I learned enough the first time through to burn iso's at 4x
[09:41] <Jahboy> about 10 cds after the fact
[09:41] <intelikey> na lets do it from the command line....
[09:41] <j-linux> GoldBuggie: the choice is not between 386 and 686... it is between 3 versions of 386.
[09:42] <GoldBuggie> sorry../me goes get glasses
[09:42] <intelikey> j-linux not three versions of 386 either.  three ways of packaging the one kernel
[09:43] <j-linux> intelikey: oh...
[09:43] <j-linux> I can't get it to install.  I deleted the partitions and am going in with Knoppix to see what the disk looks like...
[09:44] <Lukian> can i minimise xmms to tray?
[09:44] <intelikey> j-linux you get the same kernel either way but different packaging, hence different dependancies and different update treatment
[09:44] <Toma-> Lukian: yeh but you need a plugin
[09:44] <robotgeek> Lukian: you can either use alltray. or search for xmms-doclet
[09:44] <j-linux> intelikey: could it have anything to do with it not installing?
[09:45] <intelikey> don't think so
[09:45] <robotgeek> Lukian: err, xmms-docklet
[09:45] <j-linux> I couldn't resize the ntfs with knoppix and qtparted... so I just tried with breezy... seems to have resized, but it won't install ubuntu.
[09:45] <deFrysk> gxmms-xmms is your best bet
[09:46] <Inf3ctedFx> deFrysk: what the gxmms-xmms is??
[09:46] <iluciv> hi anyone used memtest
[09:47] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, Simple GNOME applet to control the basic functions of XMMS
[09:47] <intelikey> hope it's not bad block/s in the system area of the drive j-linux
[09:47] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[09:47] <j-linux> intelikey: bad blocks = hardware?  or software?
[09:47] <intelikey> hard
[09:47] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, there is also a gxmms-bmp
[09:47] <j-linux> arrg... computer is 3 hours old
[09:47] <j-linux> how can I check for bad blocks?
[09:48] <HrdwrBoB> j-linux: badblocks
[09:48] <ReverendNathan> Anyone worked with OpenSUSE? I'm thinking about checking that out, too
[09:48] <HrdwrBoB> but you should use fsck to do it
[09:48] <intelikey> the software 'badblocks' is made to detect the hardware 'bad blocks'
[09:48] <Inf3ctedFx> so deFrysk  If I want it I have to do apt-get install gxmms-xmms?
[09:48] <j-linux> oh... I suppose Knoppix might have it (I hope)
[09:48] <Parti> Hey guys!
[09:48] <Parti> I'm back!
[09:48] <HrdwrBoB> it has it
[09:48] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, yup
[09:48] <Parti> It's me Parti ! :D
[09:48] <HrdwrBoB> at least, it really should
[09:49] <Parti> amm.. maybe they went to sleep ><
[09:49] <claes> ReverendNathan, Yes Ha
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> another thing deFrysk  I have a lot of videos I remember there is a package of codes so I can play wmv videos on gxine
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> do u remember the package of codes?
[09:50] <ReverendNathan> claes, And you've come back to ubuntu? Did you think it was too much? Too hard to customise?
[09:50] <Parti> Guys. How do I resize partition using Knoppix ?
[09:50] <claes> ReverendNathan, I have used OpenSuse but went back to ubuntu after 3 days. Couldn't live without apt.
[09:50] <ReverendNathan> How are packages done, there?
[09:50] <iluciv> I have memtest v1.60 in my grub startup memu and I'd like to use it but when I select it; the app thows up a blue screen with the memtest title bar in green and a flashing red + sign and thats all it does; does it automatically start testing the memory and I just have to wait for it before it ouputs something in the blue area or has the app crashed?
[09:50] <intelikey> suse = rpm's
[09:50] <claes> ReverendNathan, The official way is with YAST. Yet Another Setup Tool. and they have special yast repositories.
[09:51] <j-linux> arrggg... operating system not found.  The breezy installer did something...
[09:51] <ReverendNathan> But there seems to me there is more support for .rpm packages than .deb packages. At least, they are updated faster.
[09:51] <Parti> Guys. I am dual booting WIndows/Ubuntu. And I want to give more space to Ubuntu. Can you help me?
[09:51] <jenda> ReverendNathan: Ah well... that's because the commercial Linuxes use RPM
[09:51] <ReverendNathan> Also, I still have no clue whatsoever as to how to build, compile, install and work .tar.gz packages. :-(
[09:51] <claes> ReverendNathan, Same custimiziation. But apt beats everything on this world. It's updated upstreams faster. But not checked to work with opensuse.
[09:52] <iluciv> Parti: is it gparted or something
[09:52] <j-linux> parti:  I'm working on something similar.  qtparted?
[09:52] <chapium> how can one write the sound that is currently coming out of the speakers to a file
[09:52] <ReverendNathan> j-linux, qtparted and gparted are both in add applications, although gparted is more tailored to gnome. I would actually suggest that over qt.
[09:53] <claes> chapium, Thinks there is a gstreamer plugin that can do that. But I'm no good at gstreamer.
[09:53] <Parti> yeah, qtparted.. it's for KDE.. I though there was a partition program UNIQUE to Knoppix ><
[09:53] <intelikey> Parti if you can make some free space on the hd you can just add a partition 'a safe bet' and mount it in linux
[09:53] <Parti> I cannot make free space on the hD..
[09:54] <burning_bronx> Parti, why can't you?
[09:54] <iluciv> so no ones used memtest then?
[09:54] <claes> Parti, Remove windows and there you have it. :-)
[09:54] <Jahboy> I'm out, time to try Ubuntu
[09:54] <burning_bronx> ;P
[09:54] <iluciv> claes:lol
[09:54] <Parti> It always tell me that the Device is bussy or that it is Active [This case, NTFS partition, Windows] 
[09:54] <Parti> :(
[09:54] <burning_bronx> removing windows is always a good fix
[09:54] <intelikey> claes my thoughts exactly
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> Ppl another question and sorry to bother u guys too much.. when I install ubuntu it automatically mount my windows partitons... I can see it but I can't access as a user.. here is my fstab --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6063    what do I need to do to access as a user?
[09:54] <Parti> ha ha ha!
[09:54] <brother_of_jared> Greets
[09:54] <deFrysk> removing windows is an upgrade in itself
[09:54] <Parti> No, I don't want to remove WIndows. I still need it.
[09:54] <Parti> :D
[09:54] <brother_of_jared> I have a question, and I'm a complete noob to Ubuntu
[09:55] <chapium> claes, do you remember which one?
[09:55] <claes> Parti, You can't resize a partition with the system you have on the partition.
[09:55] <Parti> meaning?
[09:55] <claes> chapium, No sorry.
[09:55] <brother_of_jared> I downloaded some .ttf fonts.. how do I install them?
[09:55] <Parti> You mean... that it is imposible to resize the NTFS partition !!??
[09:55] <deFrysk> !fonts
[09:55] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:55] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, which one is your windows partition?
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> those it show as a ntfs
[09:56] <intelikey> so it looks like you have a dalima   you want linux to have more space but you are not willing to take it away for M$ to give it to linux..... hmmmm i guess you will just have to add another drive.
[09:56] <claes> Parti, You can't resize a windows partition from windows. Like you can't resize / on the running linux system.
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> is /dev/hda1  and /dev/hdb1
[09:56] <burning_bronx> aw
[09:56] <burning_bronx> I didn't notice such >.>
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> both on /media/hda1   and /media/hdb1
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> I have master and slave hd's burning_bronx
[09:56] <burning_bronx> k
[09:57] <Parti> :) oh.. that.  Well, I resized my Windows partition with Partition Magick before and it worked...
[09:57] <burning_bronx> lemme check the paste again
[09:57] <claes> Parti, You can resize your ntfs partition. But you have to boot your machine into someother os. Like Linux. :-)
[09:57] <burning_bronx> I closed it by mistake
[09:57] <brother_of_jared> will give that a shot thanks...
[09:57] <Parti> But, this time I am booting Knoppix, Live CD. So the partition process could be done safer
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> Parti:  r u trying to install ubuntu?
[09:57] <Parti> No.
[09:57] <Parti> I alerady have UBuntu ;)
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[09:58] <Parti> I want to GIVE MORE Space to my Ubuntu :)
[09:58] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, under options instead of default try putting umask=0722
[09:58] <burning_bronx> that's how I work mine.
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> oks burning_bronx  let me try
[09:58] <intelikey> 0722 ?
[09:59] <burning_bronx> 0722.
[09:59] <claes> Parti, If I remember correctly, you can only half a partition meaning: 1 GB partition can't be smaller than 500 MB. Then you can make it smaler again. But only 50 % in one go. But that could have changed.
[09:59] <tolito> hello
[09:59] <intelikey> that would give a permission of  055   read only  .......
[10:00] <Inf3ctedFx> ok burning_bronx  but here is my question, ubuntu mount both partitons itself.. so If I type that line, should I have to unmount it the mount it?
[10:00] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, mount -o remount is your friend.
[10:00] <burning_bronx> intelikey, ntfs IS read only
[10:00] <intelikey> -o remount.
[10:01] <Parti> I have 30 GB of free space in my WIndows partition, and I only have 1 GB in Ubuntu...  I want to give more space to ubuntu breezy. is that possible?
[10:01] <Inf3ctedFx> lol thx claes  even if ubuntu mount it?
[10:01] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, Yep
[10:01] <intelikey> burning_bronx but why the 7 ?
[10:01] <aftertaf> Parti:  yes. reduce your windows partition with gparted, then boot to a live cd and use that extra space
[10:01] <burning_bronx> readbyall@home.com?
[10:02] <burning_bronx> doesn't really matter friend
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> so claes  the command is "mount -o remount" ??
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> just like that?
[10:02] <burning_bronx> you can work it in another fashion - it's just I use that
[10:02] <Parti> Thank you. ) The problems is that Gparted and QTparted is telling me that my Windows partition is Active or busy...
[10:02] <aftertaf> Parti:  unmount it first
[10:02] <Parti> ok, how do I unmouont it ?
[10:03] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, If you have a partiotion mounted at /home readonly and wanted it read and write. You write: mount -o remount,rw /home     if it's in /etc/fstab
[10:03] <burning_bronx> Parti, right click the device and "unmount" would be the gui way
[10:03] <burning_bronx> claes, it's about ntfs
[10:03] <Parti> ammm
[10:03] <Inf3ctedFx> claes:  let me show u my fstab so u might understand me
[10:03] <burning_bronx> Inf3ctedFx, just remount and see if it works
[10:03] <burning_bronx> grrr
[10:03] <claes> burning_bronx, Woops my bad. Then I would use captive-ntfs. Write support for ntfs with the windows drivers. :-)
[10:04] <aftertaf> claes:  better still, reformat as fat32
[10:04] <Inf3ctedFx> ok but burning_bronx  how remount?
[10:04] <Inf3ctedFx> let me reboot the system
[10:04] <burning_bronx> they said it 20 times
[10:04] <burning_bronx> mount -o remount
[10:04] <claes> aftertaf, No. Can only have 4GB large files. FAT sucks big time.
[10:04] <intelikey> or ext3 :)
[10:04] <burning_bronx> sudo mount -o remount
[10:04] <Inf3ctedFx> it didn't work
[10:05] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, Is it ntfs?
[10:05] <burning_bronx> did you do it with sudo?
[10:05] <Inf3ctedFx> yes claes
[10:05] <Parti> THere is no unmount... but there is "mount"
[10:05] <aftertaf> claes:  then use captive and backup all your data. cos you'll lose it!
[10:05] <Inf3ctedFx> look --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6065
[10:05] <intelikey> umount
[10:05] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/   check this out.
[10:05] <scylax> there's "umount"
[10:05] <Inf3ctedFx> ok, let me c
[10:05] <burning_bronx> aftertaf, not if you only use write support to edit your text files
[10:05] <intelikey> it's umount
[10:05] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[10:05] <Parti> I've right clicked HD hda2, and it game the option to MOUNT it...  :(
[10:06] <burning_bronx> intelikey, not in the gui menu
[10:06] <claes> aftertaf, I would never use ntfs. I only have Linux machines. Long time ago I removed my windows shit.
[10:06] <brother_of_jared> Excellent that worked great...
[10:06] <intelikey> and don't jump me about nomenclature
[10:06] <burning_bronx> Parti, then do a umount and UNMOUNT IT
[10:06] <aftertaf> !captive
[10:06] <ubotu> captive is, like, totally, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[10:06] <brother_of_jared> now, if I want to add more later, I won't  need to make the directories again.. so which part of the process would I do?
[10:07] <Parti> burnin_b could you give me a instruction on how to UNmount it? ;)
[10:07] <claes> Doesn't captive work with ubuntu? Strange. I have used it on ubuntu.
[10:08] <scylax> umount /dev/hdaX where X is the partition number
[10:08] <burning_bronx> scylax, beat me to it
[10:08] <burning_bronx> but you should sudo umount
[10:08] <NoWhereMan> I don't know wtf I did, but it's a pair of days that when I click o synaptic settings | package repository (sorry i've got a localized ubuntu) it REFRESHES the list (as in edit | refresh), and doesn't show up the settings' window... also the update icon near the clock doesn't show up anymore its window on double click
[10:08] <NoWhereMan> any idea?
[10:08] <Parti> Well, it is late... 1:07 AM.. I'd better go to sleep and continue tomorrow....
[10:08] <Parti> Thank you guys/girl :)
[10:08] <Prodyga_> Hello!
[10:09] <Parti> Take care
[10:09] <burning_bronx> Parti, did  you try to umount?
[10:09] <Parti> I couldn't unmount :(
[10:09] <claes> aftertaf, I will check if I can get captive working. be right back.
[10:09] <NoWhereMan> Parti: umount to your bed :)
[10:09] <burning_bronx> no no no
[10:09] <burning_bronx> parti sudo mount /dev/body /mnt/bed
[10:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:10] <burning_bronx> now!
[10:10] <Parti> haha...
[10:10] <aftertaf> claes:  if you have no win boxes, why use ntfs?
[10:10] <Parti> is that a joke ? what does "bed" mean ?
[10:10] <NoWhereMan> lol
[10:10] <izkorptix\a> HII
[10:10] <burning_bronx> bed is your bed
[10:10] <burning_bronx> -_-;
[10:10] <izkorptix\a> help
[10:10] <aftertaf> claes:  you can use ext2 and use it in win too if you need to, there are drivers to mount it in win
[10:10] <NoWhereMan> Parti: sudo mkdir /mnt/bed ;)
[10:10] <intelikey> suspend /dev/brain /to/pillow
[10:10] <Parti> ha ha ha
[10:11] <Parti> ok, funny jokes :D
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> hi
[10:11] <scylax> hi izkorptix\a
[10:11] <burning_bronx> sudo umount /dev/brain
[10:11] <Parti> though, I actually laughed :)
[10:11] <burning_bronx> >..
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> i need help
[10:11] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> i wanna use linux
[10:11] <Parti> ><
[10:11] <NoWhereMan> me too, who cares?
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> ahh
[10:11] <burning_bronx> we all care it's support
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> that wasnt funny
[10:11] <claes> aftertaf, I just wanna see if it works. I always tell people that are dual booting to use it.
[10:11] <Amaranth> NoWhereMan: Please try to be more polite.
[10:11] <burning_bronx> izkorptix\a, what's your problem?
[10:11] <izkorptix\a> well
[10:11] <intelikey> E; cant umount /dev/brain.  remounting sleep only
[10:12] <NoWhereMan> Amaranth: sorry, i never meant to be unpolite :)
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> i never use nix in my life
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> and i want to start using it
[10:12] <brother_of_jared> anyone?
[10:12] <cafebabe> hi, i'm a newbie in Linux, i instaled Ubuntu 5.10 and tried to run "gcc" here is the error it gave me bash: gcc: command not found
[10:12] <NoWhereMan> Amaranth: sorry if it looked so :)
[10:12] <cafebabe> , what am i doing wrong
[10:12] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: download the LiveCD, and play with that for a bit
[10:12] <Amaranth> brother_of_jared: What's the problem?
[10:12] <burning_bronx> well install and start learning then
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> link pz ?
[10:12] <Parti> Man! What if a plp who is a complete new to Linux will believe your "jokes" as a real command ><
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> *plz
[10:12] <Parti> well
[10:12] <scylax> cafebabe, you gotta install it
[10:12] <Parti> thanks guys
[10:12] <Madpilot> cafebabe: install build-essential
[10:12] <cafebabe> it is installed
[10:12] <Parti> See you tomorrow
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> the link
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> to liveCD
[10:12] <izkorptix\a> plz
[10:13] <scylax> www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> burning_bronx:  man thx it works fine...
[10:13] <izkorptix\a> thank you
[10:13] <cafuego> izkorptix\a: www.ubuntu.com -> Download
[10:13] <cafebabe> on synaptic manager
[10:13] <claes> cafebabe, You have to install gcc.  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:13] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[10:13] <izkorptix\a> ty
[10:13] <izkorptix\a> again
[10:13] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[10:13] <aftertaf> claes:  fair enough ;)
[10:13] <cafebabe> thank you i'l try it
[10:13] <Amaranth> scylax, Madpilot: ubuntu.com is the preferred domain to use
[10:13] <scylax> ok
[10:13] <aftertaf> claes:  in sarge it worked for me then crashed once, then my ntfs partition couldnt be read in win, but could in linux... ;) go figure :] 
[10:14] <intelikey> renice -5 /dev/eyes
[10:14] <brother_of_jared> Amaranth I just followed the excellent advice on how to install truetype fonts...
[10:14] <DeMoNSeEd> what do i have to do to get this xlack to show what i'm playing in xmms in xchat
[10:14] <Amaranth> brother_of_jared: msttcorefonts?
[10:14] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: Ubuntu will also send you free CDs if you want
[10:14] <aftertaf> DeMoNSeEd:  dont use that here though, you'll get told off !!! ;)
[10:14] <claes> aftertaf, It works great in Suse. I bet I can get it to work great in ubuntu too. :-)
[10:14] <Madpilot> Amaranth: I need to update some of the bot's urls, then :P
[10:14] <brother_of_jared> my question is, I won't need to re-create the directories each time so which part of the process would I do each time I want to add a font?
[10:14] <aftertaf> claes:  when there's a need, i think it is a good thing (tm) to have... :)
[10:15] <bjv> blender 2.40?
[10:15] <Amaranth> Madpilot: Just update them as you see them, if you want to do it.
[10:15] <DeMoNSeEd> ok, no prob, i've seen it over time, just never new how to do it, figured it would be at least nice to know how to do it
[10:15] <brother_of_jared> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto#head-a36b764c435d55ebe36e860f84867df303f559c7
[10:15] <brother_of_jared> That process Amaranth
[10:15] <Prodyga_> hi...
[10:15] <FlannelKing> anyone having problems with ubuntus apache and mod_rewrite? (or anyone actually have it working?)
[10:15] <Prodyga_> enyone ?
[10:15] <claes> aftertaf, But you are correct the best way is to remove windows and only use linux. Tada no problems with ntfs anymore. :-)
[10:16] <cafebabe> claes, it worked, thank you!
[10:16] <bjv> let me rephrase.
[10:16] <izkorptix\a> do
[10:16] <izkorptix\a> i download ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso            13-Oct-2005 02:25   617M  CDROM Image
[10:16] <aftertaf> lol claes :] 
[10:16] <izkorptix\a> for liveCD?
[10:16] <Inf3ctedFx> now the last petition  lol I have gxine.. and I have wmv videos... on my win partititon,  I want to watch them but I believe i need a code.. to run them.. does anyone knows how can I donwload those codes?
[10:16] <izkorptix\a> ..
[10:17] <claes> cafebabe, Glad I could help.
[10:17] <scylax> Inf3ctedFx, the easiest would be to run EasyUbuntu
[10:17] <izkorptix\a> ..
[10:17] <DeMoNSeEd> nerim for the codecs
[10:17] <brother_of_jared> Is there a version of Pac-Man available for free?
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> scylax:  EsayUbuntu?
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> whats that?
[10:17] <intelikey> izkorptix\a not the 'install' for a live cd no.
[10:17] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:17] <DeMoNSeEd> ftp://ftp.netim.net/debian-marillat
[10:17] <bjv> anyone able to comment on how quickly one could expect the Blender package to be updated to 2.40?
[10:17] <scylax> it's a script that installs all those codecs for you
[10:18] <cowboy21> hy ein paar girls d
[10:18] <scylax> plus aMule (if desired) and some other things
[10:18] <bjv> is there a general period of weeks or something, that these things usually take?
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> let me c that
[10:18] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  apt-cache  search pacman    < in terminal ;)
[10:18] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: no, look for the one that says "live" where that one says "install"
[10:18] <claes> bjv, Yes and sometimes no.
[10:18] <scylax> http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/16/57-easy-ubuntu-231-correction-de-bugs
[10:19] <brother_of_jared> afteraf // nothing happened
[10:19] <ppcguy> hey all
[10:20] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  type "apt-cache search pacman"
[10:20] <DeMoNSeEd> aftertaf, I just want to know how to go about setting that up
[10:20] <intelikey> aftertaf isn't   <blah)  a bash thing ?
[10:20] <brother_of_jared> I did that and the prompt came up again
[10:21] <brother_of_jared> me@home:~$ apt-cache search pacman
[10:21] <brother_of_jared> me@home:~$
[10:21] <brother_of_jared> like that
[10:21] <brother_of_jared> of course prompt has been changed.
[10:21] <izkorptix\a> whats the
[10:21] <izkorptix\a> link to live CD ?
[10:22] <izkorptix\a> ffs.
[10:22] <aftertaf> intelikey:  yes it is, but not in this case ;)
[10:22] <bjv> claes: you think it would be uncouth of me to email the package maintainer with an inquiry as to when the Blender package might be updated?
[10:22] <intelikey> :)
[10:22] <izkorptix\a> ..
[10:23] <classe3ai> fuck
[10:23] <bjv> Maintainer: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org>  from the apt-cache show blender
[10:23] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: try this one: http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[10:23] <izkorptix\a> thanx
[10:23] <classe3ai> fuck
[10:23] <brother_of_jared> afteraf??
[10:23] <izkorptix\a> is der ftp ?
[10:23] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: but all the download mirrors should have both the install & live ISOs
[10:23] <izkorptix\a> yea
[10:23] <classe3ai> fuck you brother
[10:23] <izkorptix\a> so i download this iso
[10:23] <claes> bjv, Well I don't know the guy. So not sure how he will react.
[10:23] <izkorptix\a> and burn it.
[10:23] <brother_of_jared> excuse me calsse?
[10:23] <brother_of_jared> Classe even
[10:24] <classe3ai> yes
[10:24] <brother_of_jared> What did I do to you?
[10:24] <Madpilot> izkorptix\a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:24] <izkorptix\a> ty
[10:24] <classe3ai> brother fuck you
[10:24] <brother_of_jared> yeah whatever... grow up would ya?
[10:24] <claes> classe3ai, Now now. Be a nice little boy.
[10:25] <jenda> wtf is going on in here
[10:25] <brother_of_jared> I'm trying to find a PacMan game for Ubuntu 5.10
[10:25] <classe3ai> your mother is fucker
[10:25] <intelikey> classe3ai show your age not your iq.
[10:25] <jenda> classe3ai: Watch it or you'll get banned
[10:25] <brother_of_jared> My mother is dead.. have some respect please
[10:25] <jenda> !ops
[10:25] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:26] <classe3ai> fuk you
[10:26] <Alex_BO> why anybody bans classe3ai?
[10:26] <brother_of_jared> I don't know what you think I did to you to warrant this personal attack.. but I'm not too impressed.
[10:26] <Madpilot> thanks fabbione
[10:27] <Alex_BO> that's good
[10:27] <jenda> thx, fabbione
[10:27] <claes> Thanks fabbione
[10:27] <fabbione> np
[10:27] <mih> :)
[10:28] <brother_of_jared> So afteraf suggested "apt-cache search pacman" in terminal and I did that.. but nothing happend.. the prompt just came up on the next line.
[10:28] <FlannelKing> anyone having problems with ubuntus apache and mod_rewrite? (or anyone actually have it working?)
[10:29] <robitaille> FlannelKing,  works for me
[10:29] <FlannelKing> where are your rewrite rules?
[10:29] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  maybe you need to enable universe & multiverse first
[10:29] <aftertaf> !repos
[10:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:30] <jenda> Hey... does anyone have a suggestion as to really cool stuff one can show off Linux with to friends? In order to make them think of changing. One such thing is the aa library for CLI movies... anyone?
[10:30] <Madpilot> jenda: the fact that you don't have to run a dozen security programs all the time? :P
[10:30] <robitaille> FlannelKing,  not sure.  I did that setup over a year ago, and I haven't touched it since :)
[10:31] <jenda> Madpilot: Naw that's the obvious stuff... I could name a few dozen of those...
[10:32] <atul> hi, I just installed Breezy Badger (Default Install). Everything went off fine till it came up with a window with a list of updates, I selected install it downloaded 41 MB of stuff and then failed to install them. Now apt-get install fails everytime :(
[10:32] <Madpilot> jenda: if any of your friends are into design, Scribus is pretty cool - open-source Desktop Publishing, with no Windows equiv...
[10:32] <jenda> Madpilot: I might check that out.
[10:32] <intelikey> jenda show them the 'EULA' for xp and the 'GNU-GPL'   that alone is enough.
[10:32] <brother_of_jared> ok so I am looking at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:33] <brother_of_jared> looks greek to me
[10:33] <Madpilot> brother_of_jared: follow http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse, that'll help translate some of the Greek
[10:34] <jenda> intelikey: I have never read the entire EULA, but I intend to (in fact, I'm sure there are copies on the net with commentary)... The GPL is music te my ears - it reads like the "rights of the human and citizen" or whatever it's called in english (from the french revolution)... so beautiful it makes me cry :)
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> scylax: look what happend when I try to install one of the package
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> Reading package lists... Done
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> epl: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[10:36] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, You have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to add multiverse and universe. Easy to do with synaptic. (I think)
[10:37] <chapium> yo
[10:37] <Nikusan> hi all, sound juicer is only ripping audio cds at ~4x even though dma is enabled on the drive. any advice?
[10:37] <Inf3ctedFx> claes: but I already did it
[10:37] <intelikey> well i have to do a system reboot.....   exec mount -o remount,sleep /dev/brain /my/pillow  -t exhosted.
[10:37] <chapium> when i run ./configure i get the following error:  checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
[10:37] <Inf3ctedFx> claes: do u have the lines that I suppost to add on sources.list?
[10:37] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, And you did a aptitude update after that?
[10:37] <intelikey> powerdown -n
[10:38] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[10:38] <Inf3ctedFx> thx claes
[10:39] <Inf3ctedFx> claes:  is just that line?
[10:40] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, Yep that adds universe and multiverse.
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> it wont work :(
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> look:
[10:40] <brother_of_jared> ok so I am in synaptic,
[10:40] <rob_p> brother_of_jared:  ...as in Mahanri-Moriancumr possibly?
[10:40] <brother_of_jared> Mahonri yep
[10:40] <brother_of_jared> :D
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> i already run the update and this is the results
[10:40] <rob_p> :-)
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multivers/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> Reading package lists... Done
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> epl: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> oppss  sorry fot the flood
[10:40] <doluu> I've realplayer problem on my laptop
[10:40] <Inf3ctedFx> i wont do it again
[10:41] <scylax> multivers ?
[10:41] <doluu> when jumping to some location
[10:41] <Inf3ctedFx> I copy what claes  paste it  lol
[10:41] <brother_of_jared> trying to add Universe and Multiverse here?
[10:41] <brother_of_jared> could use some help
[10:41] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, You missed an e. multiverse
[10:41] <scylax> the universe and multiverse lines should already be in /etc/apt/sources.list, you only need to uncomment them
[10:41] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  did you read the factiod from ubotu?
[10:42] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  in synaptic, to uncomment them you tick their 'enabled' box, i think...
[10:42] <Inf3ctedFx> is not there scylax  and everything is uncomment
[10:42] <brother_of_jared> I lost it when I hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:42] <doluu> how can I have custom ubuntu-desktop package? apt-get overwrites my custom package
[10:42] <brother_of_jared> Like I said I'm a newbie
[10:42] <scylax> i can send you my sources.list if you want
[10:42] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u my source.list
[10:42] <Inf3ctedFx> go ahead scylax  it will help me a lot
[10:43] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, You missed an e. multiverse should it read not multivers
[10:43] <Inf3ctedFx> by DCC?
[10:43] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  ok...... you see all those lines with ubuntu.com..... they have sections with 'main' in them? can you see those?
[10:43] <brother_of_jared> where am I looking?
[10:43] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  in those lines, after main, you add universe and multiverse
[10:43] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  synaptic > repositories
[10:43] <Inf3ctedFx> look claes  and scylax  this is my source.list -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6066
[10:44] <brother_of_jared> I have 'officially supported' then 'restricted copyright' then 'universe' then'multiverse
[10:44] <brother_of_jared> right spot?
[10:44] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, Ok i'll try again. You missed an e. multiverse should it read not multivers
[10:44] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  open synaptic, go to settings menu and choose respoitories, which will open up a new window
[10:45] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  yep.....    tick the 'enabled' box on em
[10:45] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry claes  I dont get it
[10:45] <aftertaf> Inf3ctedFx:  you types multivers     it needs an e on the end!
[10:45] <scylax> Inf3ctedFx, in the last line you wrote "multivers" instead of "multiverse"
[10:45] <brother_of_jared> ok did that
[10:45] <Inf3ctedFx> multiverse
[10:45] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[10:46] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, No problem. Only wanna help. Didn't mean to be hard on you.
[10:46] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  ok.... now click, ok, itll close... then hit the 'update' button
[10:46] <Inf3ctedFx> it's ok english is not my native languaje as u see lol
[10:46] <aftertaf> brother_of_jared:  when its done updating, click the search button and type pacman ;)
[10:46] <burning_bronx> it is not my native language too
[10:46] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:46] <claes> Inf3ctedFx, Not mine either so I feel you there.
[10:47] <burning_bronx> Wow... so how many of us are actually english/us?
[10:47] <scylax> nobody
[10:47] <claes> hehehe
[10:47] <brother_of_jared> ok you rock!
[10:47] <burning_bronx> brother_of_jared, we all rock
[10:47] <burning_bronx> you rock as well
[10:47] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:48] <claes> swede here (or should it be Swede never seems to remember). :-)
[10:48] <brother_of_jared> now to have someone point me in the direction of some info on programming...
[10:48] <Madpilot> burning_bronx: I'm english/ca, that's fairly close ;)
[10:48] <ejofee> will we have xorg 7.0 available for breezy?
[10:48] <brother_of_jared> I'm a sponge and want to learn
[10:48] <burning_bronx> Indeed it is, Madpilot ;)
[10:48] <burning_bronx> ejofee, no you won't
[10:48] <claes> or should I say that I'm sv_SE.UTF-8
[10:49] <burning_bronx> you will only get security updates if any available for the versions you have.
[10:49] <Madpilot> brother_of_jared: have a look here, it's not quite programming but close: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:49] <ejofee> burning_bronx: but i guess dapper will have it by default, right?
[10:49] <burning_bronx> yep
[10:49] <burning_bronx> It already has.
[10:49] <burning_bronx> :P
[10:49] <ejofee> burning_bronx: right :)
[10:49] <brother_of_jared> oops now I can't find pac man
[10:49] <FlannelKing> anyone know the trick to getting mod_rewrite working under ubuntu and apache2?
[10:49] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: learn python
[10:49] <brother_of_jared> ejofee.. got a website I can start at?
[10:50] <FlannelKing> brother_of_jared, diveintopython.org has is a free webbook
[10:50] <Inf3ctedFx> whats the name of the package to install mplayer?
[10:51] <FlannelKing> but, it seems to be down right now.
[10:51] <brother_of_jared> FlannelKing // thanks..
[10:51] <claes> burning_bronx, Do you use dapper? My X hangs with the new kernel. 2.6.15-9 but works with 2.6.15-8
[10:51] <brother_of_jared> is Python something like  C++
[10:51] <chapium> vsound
[10:52] <sander> I was wondering, where does the Ubuntu project get its money from. I mean, how can they afford to produce and send free cd-s all over the world
[10:52] <claes> brother_of_jared, No python is a script language.
[10:52] <scylax> mark shuttleworth
[10:52] <bnD> i just realized ive never viewed an image in anything but gimp and firefox, anyone recommend an app for image viewing, not manipulation? maybe with an easy forward backward mode(fappable)
[10:52] <atul> hi, can anyone help me with an apt-get problem?
[10:52] <FlannelKing> brother_of_jared, greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ is also a free python book.
[10:52] <claes> atul, I can try.
[10:52] <brother_of_jared> diveintopython.org doesn't work
[10:52] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: http://www.python.org/
[10:52] <FlannelKing> like I said, site seems to be down at th emoment.  It was up earlier today.
[10:52] <atul> hi claes, I have just installed breezy badger
[10:53] <Madpilot> bnD: gThumb or eog - eog is included by default, but gThumb is nicer, IMO
[10:53] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: c++ is lower level
[10:53] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: do you want to become a software engineer?
[10:53] <atul> Preconfiguring packages ...
[10:53] <atul> Selecting previously deselected package imlib-base.
[10:53] <atul> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/imlib-base_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu4_all.deb (--unpack):
[10:53] <atul>  files list file for package `libgdbm3' contains empty filename
[10:53] <atul> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:53] <atul>  /var/cache/apt/archives/imlib-base_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu4_all.deb
[10:53] <atul> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[10:53] <atul> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:53] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: if you want, lean c / c++
[10:53] <Madpilot> !paste
[10:53] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:53] <jslob> Can anyone tell me where the profiles of the Gnome Terminal are stored?
[10:53] <bnD> Madpilot, thanks :)
[10:54] <brother_of_jared> So Python is included with Ubuntu Breezy?
[10:54] <atul> sorry for the paste, I am new to IRC
[10:54] <claes> atul, Is that with apt-get or aptitude? aptitude is smarter and can sometime solve some problems.
[10:55] <atul> whats the syntax for aptitude
[10:55] <claes> atul, almost the same as for apt-get. aptitude update, aptitude upgrade, aptitude install somethin and so on.
[10:56] <ejofee> s/lean/learn/
[10:56] <Madpilot> brother_of_jared: I think it is, otherwise just get it thru Synaptic
[10:56] <burning_bronx> aptitudde has an UI
[10:56] <atul> claes, i will try it out right now, plz wait
[10:56] <burning_bronx> easy stuff
[10:57] <bnD> anyone in here use xdm rather than gdm?
[10:57] <claes> I think ui's are more difficult than cli.
[10:57] <brother_of_jared> ok I feel dumb
[10:57] <burning_bronx> brother_of_jared, why?
[10:57] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: yes, python is included
[10:57] <brother_of_jared> I loaded PacMan thru synaptic and now I can't find it...
[10:58] <atul> sudo aptitude doesn't work, it's asking for password :(
[10:58] <scylax> sudo killall gnome-panel
[10:58] <claes> atul, Yes your password.
[10:58] <bnD> atul, then enter your user pass
[10:58] <eek-0> anyone here?
[10:58] <bnD> no
[10:58] <sander> lots
[10:58] <eek-0> k
[10:58] <eek-0> needing some help
[10:58] <eek-0> well
[10:58] <eek-0> not at the moment
[10:58] <eek-0> as soon as ubuntu finishes installing :P
[10:58] <Madpilot> atul: apt-get should have asked for a pw too - always use your own user pw
[10:59] <atul> claes, same result: Ack!  Something bad happened while installing packages.  Trying to recover:
[10:59] <brother_of_jared> I can't believe I lost PacMan...
[10:59] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: i would say all gnu/linux distros include python
[10:59] <brother_of_jared> my daughter wants to play it...
[10:59] <eek-0> my mole
[10:59] <eek-0> brb
[10:59] <eek-0> checking up on the installation status
[10:59] <Madpilot> brother_of_jared: pacman is in the repos
[11:00] <Madpilot> brother_of_jared: if it doesn't show up in the menus, try typing 'pacman' (no quotes) in a terminal window
[11:00] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: open a console and write "pacman" and press return (enter).
[11:00] <claes> atul, You have the update/security lines in your source.list?
[11:00] <ejofee> brother_of_jared: don't add the quotation marks, obviously
[11:01] <atul> I have: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[11:01] <FlannelKing> anyone know how to fix the problem with mod_rewrite and apache2?
[11:01] <brother_of_jared> ok that worked.. thanks
[11:01] <jenda> Seveas: hello - haven't seen you around lately
[11:01] <atul> and : deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[11:01] <Seveas> jenda, I've been away
[11:01] <Seveas> so that observation is correct :)
[11:01] <claes> atul, Then I guess it might be a bug in the package. :-(
[11:02] <jenda> lol
[11:02] <bnD> anyone in here use xdm rather than gdm, or care to explain to me why i might want to do so?
[11:02] <eek-0> okay im back
[11:02] <brother_of_jared> ok thanks everyone for the help.. I need to help my wife with something... be back again soon
[11:02] <eek-0> okay here's my problem...
[11:02] <atul> which package??
[11:02] <atul> this is a fresh install !!!
[11:02] <eek-0> on the ubutnu box..i have wireless..(usb) Netopica 810.llb adapter/card whatever..i need to know how to configure it and make it work...
[11:03] <claes> atul, imlib-base or libgdbm3
[11:03] <Madpilot> !wireless
[11:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:03] <Madpilot> eek-0: see ubotu ^^^
[11:03] <jettana> hello
[11:04] <claes> atul, Do you have ubuntu installed or is it during the installation?
[11:04] <eek-0> looking
[11:04] <jettana> i had problem about remastering Ubuntu install cd
[11:04] <atul> installation completed and then when gnome laoded, i got a window asking me if i wanted to update
[11:04] <atul> i selected install
[11:04] <jettana> anyone, Can help me?
[11:05] <atul> it downloaded 40 MB of stuff but could install them
[11:05] <sander> could not install them?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> !tell jettana about ask
[11:06] <atul> yes, then i tried apt-get dist-upgrade with the same result
[11:06] <eek-0> i dont see netopia
[11:06] <atul> I can't install anything :(
[11:07] <claes> atul, Then it might be that the updates that you are trying to install is borked. Don't use breezy myself so haven't seen the problem. You could try to use another mirror and se if the problem persist.
[11:08] <atul> how can i get rid of the packages it has downloaded?
[11:08] <mr_green> hi all
[11:08] <claes> atul, change your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://se.archive...... instead of plain archive....
[11:09] <atul> all of the sources?
[11:09] <eek-0> what do i do now?
[11:09] <claes> atul, Sure. The swedish mirrors rock! Everyting in Sweden rocks. :-)
[11:10] <mr_green> a question. I am using a hoar live cd with a 1Go usb key. I've just update my package list. And i installed some new one. How to keep permanent those new installastions ? thx
[11:10] <Madpilot> mr_green: I don't believe you can do that w/ the Ubuntu LiveCDs
[11:11] <mr_green> hmm Madpilot ok. Bad news :(
[11:11] <GTroy> where do you start when setting up a dual monitor with one card?  do you start with editing xorg.conf?
[11:11] <mr_green> because i do not have a hard disk
[11:12] <tcampmany> Hy!
[11:12] <atul> claes you sure about that Sweden rocks thing? This is what I got : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:12] <atul> :)
[11:12] <tcampmany> I need some help...
[11:12] <claes> atul, Shit. Me and my big mouth. I'll check it out.
[11:12] <eek-0> i really need some help
[11:13] <eek-0> i really need to get this working
[11:13] <GTroy> eek-0: what's wrong
[11:13] <eek-0> wireless
[11:13] <eek-0> can't connect to the internet
[11:13] <GTroy> ok
[11:13] <eek-0> what do i do?
[11:13] <GTroy> have you installed ndiswrapper?
[11:13] <eek-0> i cant
[11:13] <eek-0> no internet access
[11:13] <GTroy> it should already be there
[11:13] <GTroy> try synaptic
[11:13] <eek-0> how could i check?
[11:13] <monduntu> Need help... how do I run rsync as a daemon on ubuntu?
[11:14] <eek-0> gtroy, command?
[11:14] <Seveas> atul, apt-get update...
[11:14] <monduntu> and I can't seem to find rsyncd.conf
[11:14] <Seveas> monduntu, create it :)
[11:14] <GTroy> go to system
[11:14] <eek-0> eh
[11:14] <Seveas> monduntu, man rsync, man rsyncd.conf
[11:14] <GTroy> then administration
[11:14] <monduntu> ok thanks
[11:14] <eek-0> im at the root terminal
[11:14] <Zedman> hello. i want to connect my 2 ubuntu-pc's via lan. I tried route and so on but it doesn't work yet. Can somebody help me plz?
[11:14] <eek-0> i just need the command
[11:14] <eek-0> oh
[11:14] <eek-0> k
[11:14] <eek-0> administration
[11:14] <eek-0> then?
[11:14] <GTroy> you don't need the root terminal
[11:15] <GTroy> synaptic package manager
[11:15] <Seveas> eek-0, don't use <enter> as punctuation, it floods the channel...
[11:15] <eek-0> okay
[11:15] <atul> claes, apt-get update worked. Followed it by apt-get diat-upgrade, same result as before :((
[11:15] <jettana> hello, i got error message :
[11:15] <jettana> gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
[11:15] <GTroy> hey Seveas:
[11:15] <Seveas> jettana, then get the public key...
[11:16] <Seveas> jettana, put the complete error/output on the pastebin
[11:16] <eek-0> GTroy, okay im there, now what?
[11:16] <GTroy> go to search
[11:16] <eek-0> then?
[11:16] <GTroy> type in 'ndiswrapper'
[11:16] <ejofee> Seveas: hi and nice to see you again
[11:16] <Seveas> hi ejofee
[11:16] <ejofee> Seveas: ... what happened to your repo?!
[11:16] <eek-0> brb
[11:17] <ejofee> Seveas: were you on vacation? :)
[11:17] <Seveas> !tell ejofee about seveas
[11:17] <eek-0> GTroy, found ndiswrapper-utils
[11:17] <ejofee> Seveas: no, this is not what i want to know! :)
[11:17] <GTroy> ejofee: nice name love the stuff too
[11:17] <ejofee> Seveas: i know it already
[11:17] <claes> atul, if you try aptitude upgrade?
[11:17] <GTroy> eek-0 right click
[11:18] <eek-0> then?
[11:18] <GTroy> mark for installation
[11:18] <Seveas> ejofee, so what's the problem? :)
[11:18] <eek-0> k brb
[11:18] <atul> claes, no luck with aptitude upgrade
[11:18] <eek-0> now what?
[11:18] <jettana> how to get public key
[11:18] <GTroy> eek-0 hit apply
[11:18] <claes> atul, Then I'm sorry to say that I have no clue.
[11:18] <eek-0> GTroy, then what?
[11:19] <GTroy> you need the driver for your wifi card
[11:19] <atul> Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-modules_5.8.7-5ubuntu1.2_all.deb (--unpack)
[11:19] <eek-0> i have the disc
[11:19] <GTroy> eek-0 ok put it in
[11:19] <claes> Anyone can help atul with breezy upgrade problems? I'm on dapper and don't know what's happened in breezy.
[11:20] <GTroy> eek-0: you need to find an .inf file
[11:20] <eek-0> GTroy, okay ndiswrapper-utils installed...
[11:20] <eek-0> what kind of .inf file?
[11:20] <jettana> Seveas, how to get public key.
[11:20] <GTroy> it should be on your driver disk
[11:20] <eek-0> okay brb
[11:20] <FlannelKing> anyone know how to fix the problem with mod_rewrite and apache2?
[11:21] <ejofee> Seveas: your repo is unaccessible, and so were you these past several days
[11:21] <atul> Claes, Looks like I'll have to dig this out myself :(
[11:21] <eek-0> GTroy, there are a lot of folders.
[11:21] <Seveas> jettana, put the complete error/output on the pastebin
[11:21] <tcampmany> How I can do a downgrade of my kernel?
[11:22] <claes> atul, Well I'm sorry I couldn't help you. Hope you will get it working.
[11:22] <Seveas> ejofee, I've been away and my server is switched off, that's why I have mirrors :)
[11:22] <GTroy> eek-0 how many?
[11:22] <jslob> I have a problem with the gnome terminal, I accidentally made a new profile and set it as default. This profile just closes the terminal however. How can I undo this profile without using the terminal?
[11:22] <ejofee> Seveas: what mirrors?!
[11:22] <ejofee> Seveas: i didn't know anything about mirrors
[11:22] <eek-0> Inside of the Drivers folder there is PCMI, USB, ect. I sleceted USB, but inside of that was 98, 2kXP, and ME. (All windows I assume)
[11:22] <ejofee> Seveas: please give me one
[11:22] <GTroy> try 2kxp
[11:22] <atul> claes, Thanks a lot for your time! If I get this right, is there somewhere I can post what I needed to do, it might help someone else...
[11:22] <eek-0> brb
[11:22] <Seveas> ejofee, ubotu sent you the info :)
[11:23] <ejofee> Seveas: ohh...
[11:23] <ejofee> right... thanks, Seveas
[11:23] <jettana> Seveas,i already put it.
[11:24] <Astxist> jslob, use configuration editor to change gnome-terminals default profile :)
[11:24] <jettana> Seveas, what i should do next?
[11:24] <claes> atul,  there are some forums on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ you might find some help there.
[11:25] <atul> claes, thanks for the pointer, I'll post my problem there.
[11:25] <tarique> hi i am a guy dumped
[11:25] <tarique> by my girlfriend
[11:25] <tarique> my girl just dumped me
[11:25] <Astxist> jslob, applications - system tools - configuration editor
[11:25] <ssdo_> anyone can help me in here?
[11:26] <Astxist> jslob, apps - gnome-terminal - profiles -Default
[11:26] <Madpilot> ssdo_: just ask your questions, someone can probably help
[11:26] <claes> ssdo_, Depends on the problem.
[11:26] <jslob> Astxist: Thank you so much!
[11:26] <ssdo_> ok,i just dual booted ubuntu in in my toshiba laptop
[11:27] <Astxist> jslob, np ^_^
[11:27] <jslob> Astxist: That worked like a charm
[11:27] <rosen> tarique, apt-get newone
[11:27] <ssdo_> then, when i do reboot in ubuntu, the laptop just went dead
[11:27] <claes> ssdo_, Breezy or Dapper?
[11:28] <ssdo_> i have to forcely push the power button then restart power then i can start ubuntu again
[11:28] <ssdo_> breezy
[11:28] <ssdo_> claes..its breezy
[11:29] <claes> ssdo_, Then I can't help. Sorry but I have the same problem in dapper. I fix it by running the old kernel. But don't know what it is in breezy.
[11:29] <tarique> rosen i loved her so much
[11:31] <bungle> hi
[11:31] <ssdo_> claes, in breezy it 2.6.12 kernel
[11:31] <rob_p> ssdo_:  I had the same issue on my laptop.  It's a known bug.  I suspect they'll handle it in Dapper.  Anyway, the workaround is to append, "reboot=h" to the kernel options in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  Add it to the default entry.  That should fix it.
[11:31] <tarique> has anyone been broken hearted
[11:32] <tarique> how can i get google talk on ubuntu
[11:32] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all
[11:32] <claes> tarique, sudo aptitude install gaim
[11:33] <claes> tarique, And look here http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[11:33] <ssdo_> rob_p, thanks will try that...
[11:34] <rob_p> ssdo_:  My line looks like:  "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash reboot=h"  Anyway, hope it fixes it for you.
[11:37] <ssdo_> rob_p, ok so i will just append the reboot=h next to the word splash
[11:37] <ssdo_> ok just did that..brb so i can test it.
[11:37] <rob_p> ssdo_:  Yup!
[11:45] <hermies> why does totem not play mp3 out of the box and what do i need to add to get it to work?
[11:45] <mjr> !mp3
[11:45] <hermies> I get an error "file is not an audio stream" when I try to play an mp3
[11:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:46] <hermies> what? since when has ubuntu cared about non-free? ...did you guys grow a soul? :D
[11:46] <mjr> umm, since the beginning?
[11:46] <BillGay-tz> hello
[11:46] <hermies> that wiki you linked to looks horrible in firefox...is that just my browser or is that generic?
[11:47] <BillGay-tz> can i ask a question
[11:47] <FlannelKing> BillGay-tz, usually it's easier to just ask, instead of asking to ask.
[11:47] <BillGay-tz> ~~
[11:47] <BillGay-tz> whatever
[11:47] <BillGay-tz> ehh
[11:47] <hermies> thank you mjr :)
[11:49] <frogzoo> anyone know if/where I can find a pkg for latest qemu ???
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> frogzoo: I built it
[11:49] <BillGay-tz> how can i configure the router to get internetconnection?
[11:50] <BillGay-tz> it seems i only can do the normal way,so sudo pppoeconf
[11:50] <frogzoo> HrdwrBoB: yar, the building it's straight forward - but 'maintaining' it is, well, you know
[11:50] <BillGay-tz> but i do not want to configure network interface
[11:50] <frogzoo> BillGay-tz: usually just 'pon dsl-provider'   ?
[11:51] <BillGay-tz> ehh?
[11:51] <BillGay-tz> what u mean
[11:51] <frogzoo> BillGay-tz: after you've run pppoeconf, you can bring up the dsl connection just with 'pon dsl-provider'
[11:51] <BillGay-tz> hmm
[11:52] <BillGay-tz> i check out
[11:56] <goon> anyone here who could explain me why I'm able to authenticate with my WPA router but drop all incoming packets?
[11:57] <jaypee_> i'm compiling totem 1.3.0 for breezy, is there any extra configure flags i need to pu?
[12:02] <Jahboy> just installed Ubuntu
[12:02] <cvt|kubuntu> congrats
[12:02] <Jahboy> BIG problem - it hasn't asked me to enter a root password
[12:02] <Jahboy> so can't actually do anything with it
[12:02] <Jahboy> didn't ask me on startup
[12:03] <Jahboy> any ideas?
[12:03] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[12:03] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:03] <FlannelKing> check that out
[12:03] <Jahboy> thx
[12:04] <NeonSight> hi all
[12:05] <seniorsepia> , NeonSight
[12:05] <NeonSight> I just installed ubuntu and I'm really new to linux/unix admin stuff, and I want to install latex. I checked out several google solutions but some things are missing, can someone please help? :)
[12:05] <NeonSight> hi senior :)
[12:05] <Jahboy> hey, much thanks
[12:06] <Jahboy> I at least got root in the terminal
[12:06] <Jahboy> I should be able to sqeek around from there
[12:07] <NeonSight> I tried... sudo apt-get install tetex-base tetex-extra... and then I get "E: Couldn't find package tetex-base"... how do I find this package?
[12:07] <soci0path> NeonSight, use synaptic
[12:08] <Seveas> !info tetex-base
[12:08] <ubotu> tetex-base: (Basic library files of teTeX), section tex, is optional. Version: 2.0.2c-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 14022 kB, Installed size: 53248 kB
[12:08] <soci0path> system | administration | synaptic
[12:08] <Seveas> NeonSight, sources.list at the pastebin please
[12:09] <NeonSight> k thx... getting there slowly...
[12:09] <cvt|kubuntu> what do i need to get javaa for online games?
[12:10] <eek-0> okay guys
[12:10] <eek-0> i almost have it
[12:10] <eek-0> still having trouble
[12:10] <NeonSight> I'm in synaptic but there's no tetex-base or anything starting with tetex...?
[12:10] <eek-0> i un tar'd the package..and umm..it said run 'make config' i did..it said Error: No rule to target make 'config'. Stop.
[12:11] <soci0path> NeonSight, you might have to add some package repositories
[12:12] <claes> cvt|kubuntu,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:12] <eek-0> there is no Confg
[12:12] <eek-0> Config
[12:12] <eek-0> in that directory though
[12:12] <NeonSight> soci0path, when I go to settings -> repositories in synaptic... there's "CD Ubuntu 5...." what do I do?
[12:12] <soci0path> system | help  | 5.10 starter guide | installing applications
[12:13] <Seveas> NeonSight, no more than the cd?
[12:13] <soci0path> it tells you how to add repositories in there
[12:13] <Jahboy> is there any way to enable the root account?
[12:13] <NeonSight> seveas: no, sorry
[12:13] <Seveas> NeonSight, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <Seveas> The O in -O is a capital oh
[12:13] <NeonSight> thx seveas... lemme check
[12:14] <Seveas> NeonSight, when you did that, hit the reload button in synaptic
[12:14] <Seveas> (and the mark all upgrades button so you drag in all security updates)
[12:14] <Jahboy> is there any way to enable the root account?
[12:15] <eps> yes
[12:15] <eps> it isn't disabled, you just aren't given the pw :P
[12:15] <eps> so reset the pw and you're set
[12:15] <Jahboy> kewl
[12:15] <NeonSight> it's downloading some stuff now, seveas
[12:15] <Jahboy> dumb question: how
[12:15] <eps> that was the first thing I worked out when I got a ubuntu box
[12:15] <eps> Jahboy if you need to ask that should you really have the root account?
[12:15] <eps> noting that sudo does all you need?
[12:17] <Jahboy> i figured it out
[12:17] <eps> good :)
[12:18] <Jahboy> thanks
[12:18] <eps> I've found when I'm on debian boxes I rarely use su though...on my debian box I'm always using the root account :P ...bad me
[12:18] <cvt|kubuntu> i thought i would get java in kynaptic, no?
[12:19] <Seveas> cvt|kubuntu, enable multiverse and use adept instead of kynaptic :)
[12:19] <yahya_> I forgot the name of a utility that sets up links to preferred apps.. anyone know what i'm talking about?
[12:19] <Seveas> yahya_, update-alternatives?
[12:19] <yahya_> Seveas: yeah!! thanks :)
[12:20] <pinkisntwell> when I login gnome hangs loading metacity if I don't select "failsafe gnome"
[12:21] <pinkisntwell> what should I do?
[12:21] <cvt|kubuntu> seveas, how?
[12:23] <vivichu_pioja> hi everybody
[12:23] <vivichu_pioja> !
[12:23] <ubotu> vivichu_pioja: I give up, what is it?
[12:23] <n3C> how is proper?
[12:23] <n3C> endore please or indorse please
[12:24] <mrkoje> is there such a thing as defragmenting a hard drive on linux?
[12:24] <alamba> hi all
[12:24] <n3C> and what is a diffrence
[12:24] <vivichu_pioja> is spanish
[12:25] <alamba> can someone please hand hold me a bit in installing java in firefox? i just can't get this to work, tried, failed and gave up before
[12:26] <pinkisntwell> alamba: did you try what it says in the wiki?
[12:26] <alamba> pink: oh yes, followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754&highlight=Java+plugin+firefox --> step by step
[12:26] <MasterC> hi
[12:27] <alamba> however the last command: java -version is not what is expected
[12:27] <vivichu_pioja> alguien habla espaol?
[12:27] <alamba> java version "1.4.2"
[12:27] <alamba> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[12:27] <Serv3er> c' qualche italliano ????
[12:27] <Serv3er> c' qualche italliano ????
[12:27] <MasterC> why needs banshee libdbus-1-1 and not libdbus-1-2 on dapper?
[12:27] <MasterC> I cant install it via apt-get :(
[12:28] <alamba> and that's after i'
[12:28] <claes> alamba,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:29] <claes> MasterC, Becouse it's not updated to the new libdbus yet.
[12:29] <MasterC> is there allready a bug report for this?
[12:30] <claes> alamba, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:30] <eek-0> HELP!!!!
[12:30] <eek-0> i typed ./Config and it said your system does not have 'cc' installed..
[12:30] <eek-0> wtf is cc!
[12:30] <claes> MasterC, I don't know.
[12:30] <frogzoo> eek-0: cc is the c compiler - usually just use gcc
[12:30] <eek-0> so umm
[12:31] <eek-0> okay
[12:31] <alamba> claes: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java is the option given...but that's not 1.5
[12:31] <eek-0> brb
[12:31] <frogzoo> eek-0: try 'export CC=gcc'   & try again
[12:31] <duomaxwell> Anyone here got time warner/roadrunner internet phone?
[12:32] <claes> alamba, it should read: /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[12:32] <claes> alamba, Have you checked  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <eek-0> umm
[12:32] <eek-0> what is the linux tree source?
[12:32] <frogzoo> eek-0: /usr/src/linux  usually
[12:32] <alamba> claes: yep...somehow that just is'nt working for me...i'm trying the first option on that page...sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[12:32] <manveru> hey guys, i'm using gnome-terminal and have problems to activate copy-on-selection behaviour
[12:33] <eek-0> well
[12:33] <eek-0> in /usr/src/linux/ there is rpm
[12:33] <eek-0> :(
[12:33] <eek-0> so /usr/src/linux/rpm/ is the tree source?
[12:33] <Ng> eek-0: install the linux-source-2.6.12 package
[12:33] <frogzoo> eek-0: what are you trying to do?
[12:34] <claes> alamba, Do the things under Sun java and it will work.
[12:34] <alamba> claes: that's going to take a good 25 min to download on my connection, meanwhile is there anything I can do to get the already installed 1.5 to work?
[12:34] <duomaxwell> A friend of mine has it and wanted me to install Ubuntu on her P4, but I couldn't get it to get online with the cablemodem that time warner uses for their allnone VoIP system
[12:34] <eek-0> umm
[12:34] <frogzoo> duomaxwell: u try 'sudo pppoeconf' ?
[12:34] <eek-0> im trying to get my wireless working
[12:34] <duomaxwell> Not only that but my iBook running OS X 10.2.8 couldn't either
[12:34] <alamba> claes: ok...trying
[12:35] <eek-0> Ng, i dont have the linux-source-2.6.12 package
[12:35] <frogzoo> eek-0: what's your wireless card?
[12:35] <duomaxwell> can't try now
[12:35] <mih> manveru: copy and paste from the r-click menu
[12:35] <eek-0> frogzoo, no idea.
[12:35] <frogzoo> eek-0: that's step 1
[12:35] <eek-0> i dont know how to find it dude
[12:35] <eek-0> i've been asking people
[12:35] <eek-0> lspci -v ?
[12:35] <frogzoo> yep
[12:35] <eek-0> umm
[12:35] <eek-0> like 200 things come up
[12:35] <frogzoo> eek-0: mebbe 'sudo lspci'
[12:36] <eek-0> brb
[12:36] <encompass> My video is all blue and I can hear the sounds but no video
[12:36] <encompass> what did I do wrong?
[12:36] <Badm4nz> how to see processor using proc info on ubuntu ?
[12:36] <Badm4nz> urgent
[12:36] <Ng> eek-0: does "apt-cache search linux-source"  show anything?
[12:36] <claes> Badm4nz, cat /proc/cpuinfo That fast enough
[12:36] <duomaxwell> Frogzoo: the cable modem is the Scientific Atlanta Webstar model DPX2203
[12:36] <claes> :-)
[12:36] <eek-0> i dont know
[12:36] <eek-0> but
[12:36] <eek-0> i see a lot of shit starting with VIA Technologies
[12:37] <eek-0> when i do sudo lspci
[12:37] <encompass> why is my video a blue screen?
[12:38] <eek-0> Ng, apt-cache search linux-source does nothing
[12:38] <eek-0> frogzoo, so..?
[12:39] <claes> eek-0, Can you find the linux-headers instead then?
[12:39] <eek-0> what is linux-headers?
[12:39] <encompass> why is my video a blue screen in Torem?
[12:39] <frogzoo> eek-0: sry, back - gimme a sec to scroll
[12:40] <claes> eek-0, The include headers needed to compile modules to work with your kernel
[12:40] <frogzoo> eek-0: pastebin your lspci -v
[12:40] <alamba> claes: cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb': Permission denied
[12:41] <frogzoo> alamba: you have to sudo to write /usr dirs
[12:41] <claes> alamba, Why are you copying it there?
[12:41] <encompass> I think you should copy it to /opt/
[12:42] <alamba> i'm not...the first command...fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin is doing that...it gives that error and aborts
[12:42] <eek-0> frogzoo, have you forgotten the reason i'm needing help?
[12:42] <eek-0> wireless...
[12:42] <NextTux> hello There I`m New Here
[12:42] <eek-0> no internet..
[12:42] <encompass> hi
[12:42] <duomaxwell> What up?
[12:42] <eek-0> claes: installed the headers...
[12:42] <alamba> claes: does it matter that i'm running the bin file from within /usr/java ?
[12:42] <NextTux> any german gays here
[12:42] <NextTux> ???
[12:43] <eek-0> claes: the directory im in when i do the ./Config is /home/ace/Driver/something/
[12:43] <eek-0> and the default is /usr/src/linux
[12:43] <claes> alamba, Yes try it in /tmp instead.
[12:43] <eek-0> so do i need to change it to ../../../
[12:43] <Ng> NextTux: I think there is a #ubuntu-de
[12:43] <NextTux> Kann mir jemand helfen ?
[12:43] <frogzoo> eek-0: as I understand it - you need a driver for your wireless card, but don't know what your wireless card is - so please pastebin the lspci -v
[12:44] <claes> eek-0, Not sure what you are trying to do.
[12:44] <wesley> Why doesn't rm -d mapname
[12:44] <wesley> remove a map
[12:44] <NextTux> Ich suche den Befehl, mit dem ich ueber die console meinen screen fr normale user freischalte
[12:44] <wesley> Isn't that supposed to delete a directory
[12:45] <apokryphos> NextTux: this is quite obviously an English-speaking channel. You can speak German in #ubuntu-de
[12:45] <claes> wesley, It's rm -rf map
[12:45] <wesley> hmm
[12:45] <NextTux> oh thanks ! I`m so stupid
[12:46] <wesley> Thanx a lot
[12:46] <wesley> Thanx for the tip claes
[12:46] <claes> wesley, Glad I could help.
[12:47] <alamba> claes: it worked!!!!!!!!!! thanks so much!!
[12:47] <eek-0> frogzoo
[12:47] <eek-0> FOR THE LAST TIME
[12:47] <claes> alamba, Great! Glad I could help.
[12:47] <eek-0> I DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS ON THAT BOX
[12:47] <eek-0> thats why imhere
[12:47] <eek-0> on another box
[12:47] <apokryphos> eek-0: drop the caps
[12:47] <claes> eek-0, No one will help you if you shout.
[12:47] <eek-0> haha
[12:47] <alamba> moving to /tmp did the trick...thanks a ton buddy...i was really hitting a wall there
[12:47] <eek-0> well use some common sense
[12:48] <apokryphos> irrelevant
[12:48] <Ng> eek-0: you could help us by finding out what kind of wireless card it is
[12:48] <eek-0> i'd have to write those 200 lines down then come back on thix box and type it
[12:48] <Ng> eek-0: eg by looking at it
[12:48] <eek-0> umm
[12:48] <eek-0> how?
[12:48] <Ng> eek-0: well is it a card ina laptop? built in to a laptop? a card in a normal pc, etc?
[12:48] <eek-0> its pcmia
[12:48] <claes> eek-0, As you said: well use some common sense
[12:48] <eek-0> pcmcia
[12:48] <eek-0> something like that
[12:49] <eek-0> it doesn't matter
[12:49] <eek-0> i need to complete my linux tree
[12:49] <eek-0> thats all im worried about
[12:49] <eek-0> Ng, i installed that linux-headers or whatever
[12:49] <alamba> guys, is there a oss alternative to microsoft frontpage that I could install? i know networks...but when it comes to coding html i'm as lost as the next guy
[12:49] <eek-0> now that stuff is in my linux tree
[12:50] <eek-0> usr/src/linux/
[12:50] <claes> alamba,  check out nvu
[12:50] <alamba> claes: will do
[12:50] <manveru> mih: i really don't want to do it with right-click... is there no option for that?
[12:50] <eek-0> so what do i do?
[12:50] <Ng> eek-0: so in being pcmcia it would take you about 5 seconds to pop it out, read off a model number/revision and type it here, which would help us check you are doing the right thing, but if you reckon you're on the way then fair enough
[12:51] <eek-0> dude
[12:51] <eek-0> okay look
[12:51] <eek-0> I have this antenna....Agere....it's plugged into a USB port on the back of my computer...
[12:51] <test1> 1
[12:51] <manveru> alamba: learning html is good for you :)
[12:51] <eek-0> what else do you need to know?
[12:52] <frogzoo> eek-0: it being USB changes everything...
[12:52] <eek-0> elaborate
[12:52] <manveru> alamba: but there are lots of good html-wysiwyg-editors out there...
[12:52] <claes> eek-0, First then it's not a pcmcia it's usb. And that changes alot.
[12:52] <Ng> eek-0: well ideally an actual product number
[12:52] <eek-0> so..?
[12:52] <eek-0> So i dont need to congfigure a PCMCIA driver do i?
[12:52] <frogzoo> eek-0: firstly, you don't need a wireless driver - you need a usb driver - which is probably already there
[12:53] <eek-0> frogzoo, okay so what do i do?
[12:53] <frogzoo> eek - 2ndly, of course it won't show up on any lspci - lsusb would be likely
[12:53] <frogzoo> eek-0: so on the box, was this called a 'wireless router'?
[12:53] <alamba> manveru: i'm a telecom guy my friend...data/voice network...i understand...i can read and understand code, but can't write "hello world" to save my life
[12:53] <eek-0> what box
[12:54] <eek-0> umm
[12:54] <frogzoo> eek-0: the box your wireless/usb thingy came in
[12:54] <eek-0> no
[12:54] <eek-0> look
[12:54] <alamba> im downloading nvu...looks easy enough
[12:54] <manveru> alamba: well, it's only "Hello World" :)
[12:54] <alamba> manveru: lol
[12:54] <eek-0> i got a modem ..wireless modem...goes in one room..(this comptuer) then in another room there is the antenna (the cmoputer with ubuntu)
[12:55] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/mirza# apt-get install libbogl-de
[12:55] <Badm4n> epl: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:55] <Badm4n> epl: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:55] <wontez> hello
[12:55] <Badm4n> what is that mean
[12:55] <manveru> alamba: however, try some, one of the best is probably quanta
[12:55] <eek-0> so..frogzoo..?
[12:55] <wontez> can someone help me with a lan issue
[12:55] <Seveas> Badm4n, close synaptic or any other apt application
[12:55] <claes> Badm4n, Someother program are using the dpkg database and only one program can use it at one time.
[12:55] <frogzoo> eek-0: and you connect to this modem via usb, correct?
[12:56] <eek-0> dude
[12:56] <eek-0> its a signal
[12:56] <CioN> hey all I need to install a wireless mice and keyboard bundle but i have no idea where to start from, anyone can help me?
[12:56] <Badm4n> i dont open anything except gnome...xchan gaim :D
[12:56] <eek-0> the antenna picks up a signla
[12:56] <eek-0> signal*
[12:56] <claes> Badm4n, You are using sudo?
[12:56] <frogzoo> eek-0: I'm well aware of how the 802.11b protocol works - thankyou
[12:56] <alamba> manveru: is'nt that for KDE platform? does that neccessarily mean that I can't run it in ubuntu (gnome)?
[12:56] <eek-0> the computer with ubutn doens't conenct to anything..i just have an antenna that plugs into a USB port on the back of it....then picks up the signal from the modem
[12:56] <Badm4n> nope
[12:57] <sony> Hi all
[12:57] <Badm4n> i already roon
[12:57] <Badm4n> not using sudo apt-get blablabla
[12:57] <sony> Ho appena installato ubuntu
[12:57] <Badm4n> but i type
[12:57] <Badm4n> sudo su fiirst
[12:57] <manveru> alamba: it doesn't mean you cannot run it in gnome - but i'm a xfce-guy and write my code by hand... it's the only editor i tried - sorry :)
[12:57] <CioN> sony: ti serve una mano?
[12:57] <Ng> eek-0: you still haven't given us a product number for the usb "antenna", but from the looks of it you need to compile the Orinoco driver, if it's an Agere USB Wireless card you are using
[12:57] <sony> vorrei sapere
[12:57] <sony> per aprire synaptic
[12:57] <eek-0> umm
[12:57] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with wine...when I try $ wine setup.exe a window says me that "Windows Installer is not present or version is too low on this computer. Setup will install Windows Installer 2.0 now. After install Windows Installer 2.0, please run setup again.
[12:57] <Alex_BO> " What can I do???
[12:57] <sony> come si apre?
[12:57] <frogzoo> eek-0: forget the other wireless devices - just explain how your computer is being wireless enabled
[12:57] <sony> mi dice che non sono root
[12:57] <eek-0> brb..i'll get the model number
[12:58] <manveru> alamba: i'm sure there are some other for gtk as well - you are best off doing some apt-cache search
[12:58] <Seveas> Alex_BO, run windows :)
[12:58] <eek-0> frogzoo, umm..a network conncetion i have to set up?
[12:58] <CioN> devi inserire la password che hai durante il processo di installazione
[12:58] <aftertaf> Seveas:  good answer ;)
[12:58] <Alex_BO> Seveas, wow
[12:58] <aftertaf> !it
[12:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <Alex_BO> Seveas, this is a very good advice
[12:58] <claes> Alex_BO, You have to install windows installer 2.0 in the wine evironment.
[12:58] <Alex_BO> claes, how?
[12:58] <eek-0> but i can't even get the light to blink on the antenna
[12:58] <aftertaf> Alex_BO:  what are you trying to run in wine that says that?
[12:58] <alamba> manveru: thanks...will do
[12:58] <manveru> ubotu: tell CioN about sudo
[12:58] <Alex_BO> aftertaf, a program for my mp3 player
[12:58] <Badm4n> my prob solved .. txt
[12:59] <Alex_BO> claes, where do I find the windows installer?
[12:59] <claes> Alex_BO, Download it from windows.com and run the setup in wine.
[12:59] <frogzoo> eek-0:     <computer> ----- <wifi device>
[12:59] <aftertaf> Alex_BO:  ^
[12:59] <CioN> manveru: that wasn't for me thx anyways :D
[12:59] <Alex_BO> claes, uhm...ok
[12:59] <CioN> hey all I need to install a wireless mice and keyboard bundle but i have no idea where to start from, anyone can help me?
[12:59] <frogzoo> what's the serial number of the wireless device, and what's the connection? USB?
[12:59] <claes> Alex_BO, If you can't find it. Then you have to ask microsoft.
[12:59] <eek-0> frogzoo, i have to set up a wireless conncetion in the 'network connections'
[12:59] <manveru> CioN: uh, sorry :)
[12:59] <Alex_BO> claes, i've found it.thanks
[12:59] <sony> CioN, ci sei?
[12:59] <eek-0> Ng, there is no model number on the bottom..just S/N, P/N, MAC ID, FCC ID
[01:00] <CioN> sony: si
[01:00] <eek-0> PN = product number, right? so thats the same thing?
[01:00] <frogzoo> eek-0: I get that much - but there's a lot of different ways of doing this, and at the other end of a text terminal, if you won't give us better information, we can't very well help you
[01:00] <Ng> eek-0: usually, yeah
[01:00] <CioN> sony:inserisci password che hai messo durante installazione
[01:00] <sony> fatto
[01:00] <eek-0> frogzoo, i dont know what kind of information you need
[01:00] <CioN> sony: quella password ti servir per tutto quindi  importante che tu la sappia
[01:00] <CioN> sony: ok
[01:00] <Seveas> CioN, please stick to english in here
[01:00] <sony> si si
[01:00] <sony> il problema e'
[01:01] <Seveas> sony, you too
[01:01] <sony> ci sono 1 casino di pacchetti che non mi servono
[01:01] <Seveas> #ubuntu-it is for italian
[01:01] <frogzoo> eek-0: how do you connect this wirelss device to your computer? usb plug correct? or is it pcmcia?
[01:01] <CioN> seveas: please do be patient he doesn't speak english and he's noob
[01:01] <eek-0> yes
[01:01] <Seveas> CioN, then take it to #ubuntu-it
[01:01] <CioN> sony: lascia cosi
[01:01] <eek-0> its plugs into a USB port
[01:01] <CioN> seveas ok i'll tell him
[01:01] <pinkisntwell> where should I report bugs? to the ubuntu bugzilla or to gnome bugzilla?
[01:01] <eek-0> Ng, P/N: 021888/A
[01:01] <apokryphos> pinkisntwell: depends on the bug
[01:01] <frogzoo> eek-0: right - now pull it out - plug it back in - then pastebin 'dmesg'
[01:02] <CioN> sony contattami via msn agrippahalatrippa@hotmail.it
[01:02] <apokryphos> pinkisntwell: if it's a packaging bug, then directly to ubuntu
[01:02] <pinkisntwell> metacity hangs at startup
[01:02] <eek-0> frogzoo, i can't...i dont have access to the internet for the last damn time
[01:02] <claes> pinkisntwell, If it's from ubuntu in ubuntu's bugzilla they will move it upstream. (I hope)
[01:02] <henk> hey can anyone tell me how to compile by 'hello world' using a stackguard technique ? i'm finding all kinds of documentation on what it is and does but not a simple example of how to acctualy use it
[01:02] <henk> s/by/my
[01:02] <pinkisntwell> claes: what do you mean?
[01:02] <CioN> hey all I need to install a wireless mice and keyboard bundle but i have no idea where to start from, anyone can help me?
[01:02] <apokryphos> pinkisntwell: better go for Ubuntu bugzilla then
[01:02] <Seveas> CioN, plug it in?
[01:03] <Seveas> (well, the receiver)
[01:03] <matozoid> !seen caraba
[01:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'caraba', matozoid
[01:03] <Seveas> that should work out of the box
[01:03] <frogzoo> eek-0: you can't unplug the usb? of the wirelss modem? why not?
[01:03] <apokryphos> pinkisntwell: if ubuntu users discover that it's a gnome bug, they send it "upstream" to the gnome bugzilla
[01:03] <manveru> CioN: at least mine does :)
[01:03] <pinkisntwell> apokryphos: oh ok
[01:03] <CioN> seveas: i have pendrive as receptor
[01:03] <eek-0> frogzoo, i cant paste the information on pastebin.com because i dont have internet access on that comptuer.. thats the reason im here..to get the wireless part working
[01:03] <matozoid> when is the next release of kubuntu for?
[01:03] <claes> apokryphos, Thanks. Was looking for the words to explain it.
[01:03] <CioN> i plug it in but nothing happens
[01:04] <manveru> matozoid: when dapper is released...
[01:04] <apokryphos> matozoid: same as Ubuntu -- April
[01:04] <eek-0> Ng, anything?
[01:04] <cafebabe> i'm having newbie trouble installing j2ee on Ubuntu 5.10? here is the error : "./j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Any ideas?
[01:04] <matozoid> ah ok thx
[01:04] <frogzoo> eek-0: ok, well unplug/plug the usb & execute dmesg - there'll be something about a new device detected - what's it say?
[01:04] <Seveas> CioN, do you see them in lshal?
[01:04] <eek-0> okay brb.
[01:04] <CioN> seveas: what's that? sorry im noob
[01:04] <Seveas> !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[01:04] <Seveas> CioN, it is a command
[01:05] <Seveas> run it and check whether you see your keyboard/mice
[01:05] <CioN> seveas: i got a lot of response from that command
[01:05] <azatoth> ist anyone using vserver and can help me out with a problem please?
[01:05] <Jahboy> having trouble updating firefox
[01:05] <matozoid> btw would they ship kubuntu for free?
[01:05] <Jahboy> installed to /usr/lib/firefox
[01:05] <burning_bronx> Seveas, is there a dapper specific channel?
[01:05] <CioN> seveas: i know it's a command but what kind of comman
[01:05] <claes> cafebabe, Try and install hmmm perhaps libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 not sure if this is the right one.
[01:05] <Seveas> burning_bronx, yes, this one
[01:05] <Seveas> matozoid, no
[01:05] <burning_bronx> O_O;
[01:05] <Jahboy> and tried to set web browser prefs to it
[01:06] <Seveas> CioN, then you have a lot of reading to do :)
[01:06] <matozoid> why??
[01:06] <Jahboy> and no luck launching
[01:06] <matozoid> would be a good idea
[01:06] <Jahboy> still launches 1.0.7
[01:06] <CioN> seveas: u kidding me right?
[01:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' returned no results.
[01:06] <Seveas> CioN, no, just read through the output and look for your keyboard
[01:07] <CioN> seveas: and then what?
[01:07] <apokryphos> Seveas: are you sure it's not going to be? There was some talk that it might be
[01:07] <Seveas> apokryphos, never heard of that, but I'm not omniscient :)
[01:07] <apokryphos> I think it partly relied on whether there'll be a single install+live cd
[01:08] <apokryphos> Seveas: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[01:08] <speerfishingt> how can i switch to runlevel 3 without any X11 "init 3" doesn't stop the X11...
[01:08] <Seveas> there is no runlevel without X except runlevel 1
[01:08] <speerfishingt> tnx
[01:09] <legout> :-D http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~lorrmann/fvwm/screens2/index.php
[01:09] <cafebabe> thnak you, claes, i'll try
[01:09] <Jahboy> anyone have luck updating firefox?
[01:10] <Jahboy> I did it in fedora, not wanting to work the same way in Ubuntu
[01:10] <eek-0> okay when i unplugged and plugged it back it..and typed dmesg i got a lot of stuff but the bottom two were: usb 1-2: USB disconnected, address 2 then usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[01:10] <eek-0> frogzoo ^^^^
[01:11] <wontez> do any of you use nfs for fileshares, if so what are the pros and cons exluding the fact nfs is linux only
[01:11] <burning_bronx> !firefox1.5
[01:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:11] <burning_bronx> Jahboy, check this ^^^
[01:11] <Jahboy> thx
[01:11] <frogzoo> eek-0: but didn't mention something like 'new usb device detected'...
[01:11] <eek-0> umm
[01:11] <eek-0> i shall go check again
[01:13] <Jahboy> here's my problem, how do I get libstdc++5
[01:13] <frogzoo> eek-0: about now we need to figure out what this device is - so we can figure out what drivers it needs or if it's even supported
[01:13] <frogzoo> Jahboy: not in synaptic?
[01:13] <wontez> do any of you use nfs for filesharing if so what are the pros and cons exluding the fact nfs is linux only
[01:13] <B|4ckm0r3> i've got a problem!i'm trying to install the newest nvidia drivers (8174) and x tells me that i've the 8174 module (libglx.so) but the driver is still 7667 (nvidia_drv.so)!anyone can help me?
[01:13] <apokryphos> Jahboy: it's in the repos
[01:13] <eek-0> frogzoo, it didn't say anything about new device detected
[01:13] <eek-0> lemme go put my other one in though
[01:14] <wontez> hello can anyone hear umm I mean see me
[01:14] <frogzoo> wontez: nfs is really good for workstation unix environments
[01:14] <frogzoo> nfs is a stateful protocol, and much more robust than samba
[01:14] <burning_bronx> Jahboy, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:14] <wontez> aahh
[01:14] <apokryphos> wontez: we can indeed
[01:15] <wontez> thanks lol
[01:15] <ZahnZa> hello
[01:15] <wontez> thought i set this up wrong too
[01:15] <frogzoo> wontez: however, you don't want to run nfs exports on a box that's frequently rebooted - exports should be run from highly stable servers
[01:15] <Jahboy> just discovered synaptic
[01:15] <Jahboy> much sweeter than yum
[01:15] <eek-0> back
[01:15] <void^> there's a free microsoft tool to use nfs exports on windows
[01:15] <wontez> why so
[01:16] <eek-0> nope it didn't say anything about new device detected, FrankyFourFinger
[01:16] <eek-0> err frogzoo*
[01:16] <ZahnZa> i need some help with my internet connection
[01:16] <frogzoo> eek-0: just a mo
[01:16] <djk_> apokryphos: why is utf8 the default locale?
[01:16] <eek-0> ZahnZa, get in line. :P
[01:16] <wontez> what makes rebooting bad for nfs?
[01:17] <frogzoo> wontez: because nfs has state, if you have open files on the server when the server goes down, you'll have stale file handles until the server comes back up
[01:17] <apokryphos> djk_: in here? It's the default for English-speaking channels on Freenode
[01:17] <djk_> apokryphos: na, not in here, ubuntu..
[01:17] <frogzoo> wontez: however, this can be really nice too - someone can have a file open - server crash, reboots - everything's back where it was
[01:18] <B|4ckm0r3> please help me!i'm trying to install the newest nvidia drivers (8174) and x tells me that i've the 8174 module (libglx.so) but the driver is still 7667 (nvidia_drv.so)!
[01:18] <apokryphos> djk_: because it's the most standard? Not really sure of the advantages/disadvantages. Perhaps the same reason qwerty is default keyboard layout 8)
[01:18] <frogzoo> wontez: you can even failover the nfs export from one server to another - giving you complete HA on your file server - it's brilliant for enterprise setups
[01:18] <eek-0> frogzoo, anything i need to do?
[01:18] <frogzoo> eek-0: so did we figure out what device this was?
[01:18] <eek-0> i dont know
[01:18] <eek-0> its USB dude
[01:18] <wontez> HA?
[01:18] <frogzoo> eek-0: did this come in a box?
[01:18] <eek-0> yes
[01:18] <frogzoo> wontez: HA = high availbility
[01:18] <eek-0> a long time ago
[01:19] <djk_> apokryphos: well, the reason for qwerty are historical and rather stupid nowadays
[01:19] <eek-0> its Netopia
[01:19] <wontez> kinda like a UPS
[01:19] <apokryphos> djk_: sure
[01:19] <frogzoo> eek-0: did this device come with windows drivers?
[01:19] <eek-0> yes.
[01:19] <apokryphos> djk_: a few reasons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF8
[01:19] <claes> eek-0, Can you plug the usb in a windows computer and see what driver it loads?
[01:19] <frogzoo> wontez: nope - HA is like 2 servers - when one crashes, the other one takes over
[01:19] <eek-0> claes, what do you mean?
[01:19] <frogzoo> claes: good call
[01:20] <eek-0> i'd have to install it on this computer
[01:20] <wontez> so is it seamless redundency?
[01:20] <eth42> where can I logout on wiki.ubuntu.com? I seem to be logged in but there are no controls to logout?!!
[01:20] <eek-0> a disc came with the device ..a disc to install the driver
[01:20] <frogzoo> eek-0: plug it into a windows box - then look under device manager to find out what it is
[01:20] <eek-0> why?
[01:20] <apokryphos> eth42: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
[01:21] <eek-0> why does it matter what it is?
[01:21] <frogzoo> eek-0: this device won't work without a linux driver - you need to know what device it is to find the right driver, or if one even exists
[01:21] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anybody knows how can I use 2 monitors on ubuntu with 2 diferent video cards?
[01:21] <wontez> do I direct who i am speaking too?
[01:21] <eek-0> *sigh*
[01:21] <apokryphos> wontez: in large channels it's often a good idea
[01:21] <eek-0> okay brb
[01:21] <wontez> *how
[01:21] <apokryphos> !tell wontez about tab
[01:21] <Jahboy> hey thanks for the link, worked great
[01:21] <frogzoo> wontez: just type the first few chars & hit tab for completion
[01:21] <eth42> apokryphos: uh, ok, couldn't see the tree for the woods! :-) thanks
[01:22] <apokryphos> eth42: I agree it's badly laid out; there really should be a link near the top there.
[01:22] <wontez> apokryphos,  ahh thanks
[01:24] <eth42> apokryphos: if I want to change something in UserPreferences, it always tells me that passwords are not the same. but I see only one field for the password and it is automatically filled with the same password that is used for login (which of course doesn't fail). Any suggestion what could be the problem?
[01:24] <wontez> frogzoo, I am thinking about using nfs on my home lan do you think it would be a bad idea?
[01:25] <frogzoo> wontez: nfs is, like I say, very robust - but more work to setup by all accounts than samba - samba would probably be best just to get you up & running
[01:25] <apokryphos> eth42: hm, trying to test, but the wiki is really lagging on trying to save.
[01:27] <eth42> apokryphos: hmm, mine is not lagging, I just get the message that passwords are not the same. strange...
[01:27] <eth42> i should try later perhaps
[01:27] <eek-0> how do i go to device manager
[01:27] <apokryphos> eth42: you shouldn't need the pass entered there to make UserPreferences changes
[01:27] <frogzoo> just btw, the breezy qemu is 2 releases behind - current qemu is 8.0 > 7.2 > 7.0
[01:27] <wontez> frogzoo, are there any good gui interfaces to help me set up samba that you know of ?
[01:28] <eek-0> got it
[01:28] <eth42> apokryphos: I see. now it is lagging. :-)
[01:28] <eek-0> dude
[01:28] <eth42> apokryphos: I mean without the password
[01:28] <eek-0> frogzoo, all it says is USB device
[01:28] <Ng> frogzoo: ubuntu doesn't include new releases in a stable version, just security and bug fixes. there will probably be a newer versrion in dapper though :)
[01:29] <apokryphos> eth42: seems quite messed up. Might send an email as a FYI to them
[01:29] <frogzoo> Ng: just compiled with the kqemu kernel module (proprietary unfortunately) it's a much quicker install so far
[01:29] <eth42> apokryphos: you might or I might? :-)
[01:29] <eek-0> frogzoo, so now what?
[01:29] <apokryphos> eth42: I could, but if you could that would be great ;-)
[01:30] <frogzoo> eek-0: you checked under device manager?
[01:30] <eth42> apokryphos: ok, I will. btw, my settings now got saved (only if the password is not entered)
[01:30] <eek-0> YES
[01:30] <Jahboy> new problem - Java runtime environment- installed and make a link into my firefox plugins, and enabled Java in firefox prefs, and still no luck
[01:30] <eek-0> it said USB device
[01:30] <eek-0> thats it
[01:30] <Ralken> frogzoo, sorry this is wontez
[01:30] <Jahboy> any ideas?
[01:31] <Ralken> frogzoo,  I didnt see your last answer
[01:31] <frogzoo> Ralken: check under synaptic for 'samba' - there's lots there - but someone here will know - samba gui anyone?
[01:32] <claes> Jahboy, if you check the address about:plugins in firefox what does it say?
[01:32] <frogzoo> anyone know why the led on my usb key stays on after the device is unmounted, or how to get it to turn off?
[01:32] <Ralken> frogzoo, I tried LinNeighborhood but I couldnt see the other PC
[01:33] <claes> frogzoo, If you try and eject the device do the light go off.
[01:33] <frogzoo> thx claes
[01:33] <agorf> hello. how can i add extra ips to an interface as well as some routes and those thing stay after a reboot ?
[01:33] <frogzoo> (dumb me)
[01:34] <Jahboy> 'm checking it out now
[01:34] <frogzoo> agorf: man interfaces
[01:34] <Jahboy> /usr/java/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[01:34] <claes> frogzoo, Glad I could help.
[01:34] <Jahboy> /usr/java is my install directory for jre
[01:34] <Ralken> anyone know of a good samba gui?
[01:35] <vivichu_pioja> I know
[01:35] <vivichu_pioja> !
[01:35] <ubotu> vivichu_pioja: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:35] <vivichu_pioja> yes
[01:35] <vivichu_pioja> why?
[01:35] <ZahnZa> smb4k is a good samba gui
[01:35] <Ralken> frogzoo, I checked syn but didnt see anything useful
[01:35] <Ralken> thanks
[01:35] <frogzoo> ZahnZa: is right - install smb4k
[01:35] <claes> Jahboy, is that on about:plugins in firefox?
[01:36] <aftertaf> !good bot
[01:36] <ubotu> thanks aftertaf :)
[01:36] <Ralken> that says its for kde will I have to install the entire kde suite to use it?
[01:37] <rikai> woah, new kernel update just came down the pipe it seems, at least for me.
[01:37] <Jahboy> where the link to the java plugin is
[01:37] <frogzoo> !java
[01:37] <ZahnZa> you can also use xSMBrowser
[01:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:37] <Ralken> ZahnZa, that says its for kde will I have to install the entire kde suite to use it?
[01:38] <eth42> how good is the GNU Java environment? can it used as a replacement for Sun/Java? (cause I can't start a jar I have, obviously because java.lang.StringBuilder is not present)
[01:38] <aftertaf> Ralken:  just the dependencies
[01:38] <Ralken> ZahnZa, Im installing xSMBrowser to test it out
[01:39] <mjr> eth42, it's "pretty good" when it comes to non-AWT/Swing stuff
[01:39] <ZahnZa> Ralken, alright
[01:39] <Moodles> Is there an easy way to install ubuntu through a LAN? I want to serve it from my main winxp box
[01:39] <mjr> (when it comes to AWT/Swing stuff, it's more like "getting there slowly")
[01:39] <eth42> mjr: ok, so no jedit or projectx
[01:39] <aftertaf> Moodles:  do the install on cd, then setup networking and ISP sharing on your xp box
[01:40] <agorf> frogzoo, are u sure that with interfaces you can set static routes?
[01:40] <mjr> eth42, probably not, no. But yes Eclipse.
[01:40] <DarkFame> anyone tried out Darwinia? what do you think?
[01:40] <eth42> mjr: so if java.lang.StringBuilder is missing, do I just need to install some deb?
[01:40] <frogzoo> agorf: nope, sry
[01:40] <Navire> Hi, folks
[01:40] <aftertaf> hi :] 
[01:40] <mjr> eth42, not sure on the spesific on that
[01:40] <frogzoo> agorf: yes actually - you should be able to add a post command - & add the static route
[01:40] <eth42> ok, thanks, mjr
[01:41] <Navire> Someone know where I find packge Twinkle SIP phone for Ubuntu?
[01:41] <frogzoo> Navire: u try synaptic first?
[01:41] <agorf> ok thanks
[01:41] <Moodles> aftertaf: problem is, the cdrom in the target machine is stuffed, I can use it to boot from cds, but it doesn't install reliably
[01:42] <aftertaf> Moodles:  whip out the cdrom from the xp box, just to install, then get it on the net and apt-get away :] 
[01:42] <Ralken> ZahnZa,  how do you find where the executable is once its installed?
[01:43] <Moodles> i guess i'll be forced to do it :(
[01:43] <ZahnZa> Ralken, you should just be able to type xSMBrowser in a terminal and open it up
[01:44] <Sionide> http://blogs.gnome.org/view/uraeus/2005/12/23/0 <- cost free mp3
[01:44] <Sionide> plugin/playback
[01:45] <ZahnZa> Ralken, the binary is \usr\bin\xsmbrowser
[01:46] <Seveas> Sionide, yes, that indeed is exciting news
[01:46] <IamJacksUsername> If I create a CD with security updates and make it a repository, what will the patches for programs not installed do when installed?
[01:46] <Navire> frogzoo: Yes. I find in synaptic
[01:46] <Navire> No find.
[01:46] <Sionide> tis
[01:47] <Sionide> one of the biggest things noobs complain about is mp3s isn't it
[01:47] <ZahnZa> i'm having problems with my wireless connection
[01:47] <frogzoo> Navire: I see there's 'kphone' a SIP phone
[01:47] <IamJacksUsername> ...will they be installed?
[01:48] <frogzoo> Navire: or linphone
[01:48] <Ralken> ZahnZa, thanks... I have it up and it did a scan but nothing is there
[01:48] <KenSentMe> when i try to install my asus WL-107g wlan pcmcia card i use this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo but i can't do 'make'  because my build dir does not excist, why?
[01:48] <Navire> Ok
[01:48] <frogzoo> Navire: I'd try those first
[01:48] <Navire>  I will try it
[01:48] <Navire> Than you
[01:49] <Navire> I will back...
[01:50] <Sionide> ZahnZa, i'm not - i use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[01:51] <roel__> hello
[01:51] <roel__> ?
[01:51] <ZahnZa> Ralken, o you have samba running?
[01:51] <raphink> yop roel__
[01:51] <roel__> ah it works :)
[01:51] <roel__> bye
[01:51] <roel__> just testing it out :)
[01:51] <roel__> merry christmas everybody
[01:51] <Denstark> Morning guys =) Friday! And almost xmas. Yay.
[01:51] <roel__> bye
[01:52] <Ralken> ZahnZa, yes the Smb4K is running
[01:52] <ZahnZa> Sionide, the connection works fine, i am connected to my access point, and i ping sites, but i cant open them in a browser or install packages
[01:52] <Denstark> Can you ping IPs or domain names?
[01:52] <ZahnZa> Ralken, you have smb4k installed?
[01:53] <Sionide> ZahnZa, dont think thats a problem with your wireless then
[01:53] <Sionide> do you have a proxy or something?
[01:53] <Ralken> ZahnZa, I have both Smb4k and xSMbrowser installed but Smb4k looks easier so Im going to use it
[01:53] <ZahnZa> Sionide, no
[01:53] <gnubien> hi, where would i find the commands in ubuntu CD that turn off the pc on shutdown?
[01:54] <Ralken> ZahnZa, should I un-install the other program
[01:54] <ZahnZa> Ralken, if you're not gonna use then yeah, but it wont matter either way
[01:54] <KenSentMe> i have a question: should there always be a folder called 'build'  in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/ ?
[01:55] <ZahnZa> Sionide, any ideas?
[01:55] <Sionide> ZahnZa, nope
[01:55] <Ralken> ZahnZa, ok I have it running and did a scan but nothing there?
[01:55] <KenSentMe> mine is missing and this howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/DriverAndRaconfig requests one to complete it
[01:55] <aftertaf> KenSentMe:  sounds like "cos i deleted it, is that good?" :)
[01:55] <gnubien> echo -e "\0110\0141\0160\0160\0171 \0110\0157\0154\0151\0144\0141\0171\0163\041"
[01:55] <KenSentMe> aftertaf: i didn't deleted it
[01:55] <KenSentMe> delete
[01:55] <aftertaf> KenSentMe:  heheh joking. try installing build-essential.
[01:56] <KenSentMe> aftertaf: i just did, but ok, i try again
[01:56] <aftertaf> kennethlove:  and kernel-headers maybe
[01:56] <aftertaf> KenSentMe:  i meant ;)
[01:56] <ZahnZa> Ralken, you might try manually mounting the share that you want
[01:57] <Ralken> ZahnZa,  I have to have this program on both pc's correct
[01:58] <ZahnZa> Ralken, no, smb4k is just a gui for smbclient, you need smbd on the pc thta want to share files on
[01:58] <KenSentMe> aftertaf: should that be kernel-headers-2.6.11-9 or linux-kernel-headers ?
[01:58] <Ralken> ZahnZa, ahh ok
[01:59] <ZahnZa> Ralken, sorry for my horrible typing, laptops and no sleep=bad typing
[02:00] <aftertaf> KenSentMe:  i dont know... try both ;)
[02:00] <Ralken> ZahnZa, no prob... I did a search for smbd on syn and nothing came up
[02:00] <ZahnZa> any one have any idea why with my wireless connection i can ping sites but not view them in a browser or install packages
[02:00] <KenSentMe> aftertaf: ok, lol
[02:00] <ZahnZa> Ralken, it is installed with the samba package, you just have to have it running
[02:01] <Ralken> ZahnZa,  lol ok
[02:01] <aftertaf> bye all :] 
[02:03] <Ralken> ZahnZa, tried to run smbd and it sayed aborted due to panic action on line 48
[02:03] <cliebow_> anyone else have trouble with gnome working right after switching to ldap authentication?
[02:03] <Tv> Hello. Is there a nice way to put the livecd on a usb stick?
[02:03] <Ralken> ZahnZa, *said
[02:04] <Benix> hi
[02:04] <Benix> What is the packagename of the acx wlancard driver?
[02:04] <scanwinder> #winehq
[02:05] <ZahnZa> Ralken, have you setup you config file smbd yet?
[02:05] <ZahnZa> brb
[02:05] <Ralken> ZahnZa,  no
[02:06] <Ralken> ZahnZa, Im going to read up on the samba and ask some more questions later Im starting to feel lazy brb
[02:06] <ZahnZa> back
[02:06] <ZahnZa> Ralken, alright
[02:08] <ZahnZa> i'm have trouble connection to sites, my wireless conection is good, i can ping sites but not open them in a browser, nor can i install any packages
[02:08] <ZahnZa> having*
[02:08] <vilcimoraes> ola
[02:16] <KenSentMe> ZahnZa: does it work with a cabled connection?
[02:17] <ZahnZa> KenSentMe, I don't know, don't have wired a connection for it
[02:17] <stianh> Hey, my laptop has a memorycard reader built in, but it's not deteced automatically by ubuntu, or at least memory cards inserted aren't detected and mounted, /var/logs/messages shows no activity when inserting and ejecting cards.
[02:17] <stianh> Any suggestions on what to do?
[02:17] <KenSentMe> ZahnZa: well that way you can find out if it's your ubuntu-installation or the wireless card
[02:18] <Seveas> stianh, try the command lspci
[02:19] <Seveas> if it shows your reader as being made by Texas Instruments, then forget about using it
[02:19] <ZahnZa> KenSentMe, it's not the card, ive used it in another machine, and i have a connection to the router, i can search on google but view any other sites
[02:19] <KenSentMe> ZahnZa: there's no proxy or something?
[02:19] <ZahnZa> not view*
[02:19] <Jahboy> do the Make commands work in Ubuntu (make install)
[02:19] <ZahnZa> KenSentMe, no
[02:19] <Jahboy> I got command not found
[02:20] <stianh> Seveas, lots of texas instruments yes, both firewire, cardbus and unknown mass storage device, why forget about using them?
[02:20] <pauli> hola
[02:20] <KenSentMe> Jahboy: not standard i think
[02:20] <pauli> hello
[02:20] <Seveas> stianh, because TI does not publish linux drivers or specifications for these readers
[02:20] <KenSentMe> Jahboy: maybe you can install build-essentials
[02:21] <Jahboy> k
[02:21] <ZahnZa> KenSentMe, I can also view my network shares
[02:21] <stianh> Seveas, but that hasn't stopped people from making drivers for things in the past *sigh* are people getting lazy?
[02:21] <KenSentMe> ZahnZa: and visit them?
[02:21] <Seveas> stianh, no, but it's not done yet, so forget about using it for now
[02:21] <stianh> hmm
[02:21] <Ng> stianh: or help make the drivers :)
[02:21] <ZahnZa> KenSentMe, yes
[02:22] <Jahboy> and pardon my ignorance, but what is the command to get that
[02:22] <mustard5> Jahboy, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:22] <stianh> Ng: hehe, if they are making the drivers in php or ruby, then I guess sure :P
[02:22] <Seveas> Jahboy, install the build-essential package via your favourite package manager
[02:22] <Ng> stianh: still, might be worth tracking down someone who's writing drivers and get in touch with them
[02:23] <stianh> Ng, yeah, just gotta get some more details on those devices in question
[02:23] <Jahboy> "couldn't find package"
[02:24] <mustard5> Jahboy, most likely you need to enable extra repositories
[02:24] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Jahboy about repositories
[02:24] <stianh> firewire doesn't matter to me, don't have any firewire devices, pcmcia isn't too much of a problem, but I'd really like to have that cardreader :)
[02:24] <mustard5> Jahboy, check PM from ubotu
[02:24] <Jahboy> k
[02:27] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[02:27] <Sh4d0x> *shadox entered the rooooom =D
[02:27] <KenSentMe> hey
[02:27] <mustard5> hey Inf3ctedFx
[02:27] <Inf3ctedFx> hey mustard5
[02:27] <Sh4d0x> hi there :)
[02:27] <Inf3ctedFx> I already make work dual monitore
[02:27] <Inf3ctedFx> it was sooo simple lol
[02:27] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, :)
[02:27] <Lukian> :D
[02:28] <Lukian> Inf3ctedFx: how so?
[02:28] <Inf3ctedFx> but now I have a small problem but I dont think is going to be a problem
[02:28] <Inf3ctedFx> Lukian:  look I have 2 video cards
[02:28] <Inf3ctedFx> both r nvidia but diferent configuration
[02:28] <Sh4d0x> does anyone knows if there exists a linux objectdock version?
[02:28] <Inf3ctedFx> the only thiong I done was make the same exact xorg configuration in xorg.conf
[02:29] <Inf3ctedFx> Sh4d0x: superkaramba
[02:29] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx: thnQ
[02:29] <Inf3ctedFx> so Lukian  I copy almost everything inside my xorg.conf but using the specification for my secon monitor and video cart
[02:30] <Inf3ctedFx> *card
[02:30] <nobotz> how does one determine the version of ubuntu one is running
[02:30] <Inf3ctedFx> and it works
[02:30] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, ah ok...so the old drivers run your new card?
[02:30] <nobotz> cat /etc/debian_version gives me a debian version
[02:30] <Inf3ctedFx> nobotz: check ur source.list
[02:30] <mustard5> nobotz, cat /etc/issue
[02:30] <Inf3ctedFx> if in ther repositories said something like hoary or breezy thats the version u r runinig
[02:31] <Inf3ctedFx> yes mustard5  the old driver runs just fine
[02:31] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, well done :)
[02:31] <nobotz> got it
[02:31] <Inf3ctedFx> but what I have here now is a CLONE desktop lol
[02:31] <Inf3ctedFx> I can go with my mouse back and ford
[02:31] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I just put a new 80 gig hard drive in today so I'm setting up a second install of ubunut :)
[02:31] <Inf3ctedFx> but my second monitor has exactly the same desktop as my main monitor
[02:31] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I'm glad to say goodbye to my 8gb and 12gb drives :)
[02:32] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, I just installed superkaramba with apt-get install, but where can i find my "shortcut" for using it?
[02:32] <Inf3ctedFx> mustard5: actually i;m going to buy a 200 gig hd today lol
[02:32] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, hehehe
[02:32] <mustard5> Sh4d0x, you probably need to create a menu entry?
[02:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Sh4d0x: go and google it superkaramba, to be honest with u.. I never use it.. well I did just once
[02:33] <Inf3ctedFx> I believe u have to download all those toys superkaramba has
[02:33] <Inf3ctedFx> like the weather, the dock etc etc etc
[02:33] <Sh4d0x> ow, :(
[02:33] <gnomefreak> good morning
[02:33] <Inf3ctedFx> the when u type in console "superkaramba" it will open
[02:33] <mustard5> morning gnomefreak
[02:33] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, morning? =D
[02:33] <Inf3ctedFx> Sh4d0x: type on terminal "superkaramba"
[02:34] <dailyrorschach> anyone know how to get my fonts to 96dpi
[02:34] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, ok, just a sec :)
[02:34] <Inf3ctedFx> mustard5:  what I need now is not a clone of my desktop I need a extended desktop xD
[02:34] <Ng> dailyrorschach: system->preferences->font->Details
[02:34] <nobotz> where do I find ubuntu package downloads
[02:34] <gnomefreak> synaptic nobotz
[02:34] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, so what do you use that for?
[02:34] <deFrysk> nobotz, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <Inf3ctedFx> nobotz:  on synaptic
[02:34] <Inf3ctedFx> on ubuntu
[02:34] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, thnxx
[02:35] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I always wonder why people have these dual monitor setups
[02:35] <Navire> frogzoo: I try both, kphone e linphone. But dont work with Telextreme VOIP server.
[02:35] <Inf3ctedFx> Sh4d0x:  it works?
[02:35] <Inf3ctedFx> hahaha
[02:35] <Inf3ctedFx> is pretty cool to work with 2 minitors mustard5
[02:35] <Sh4d0x> inf3ctedFx, yes it opened a screen "karamba" now I can set some options
[02:35] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, go ahead and play with it for a littler bit
[02:36] <defdc> hey, how do you change your window manager ? you just install it and that's all ?
[02:36] <Inf3ctedFx> defdc: which one did u install?
[02:36] <Ralken> how do I edit a file as sudo
[02:36] <Lukian> defdc: "sessions" on the login screen i believe
[02:36] <defdc> i have not installed it yet
[02:36] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, in waiting my powerbook G4 arrives, i surely will amuse myself a bit with the dock :D
[02:37] <Lukian> Ralken: sudo <youreditor> file
[02:37] <defdc> but i plan to replace metacity by openbox
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Ralken, sudo gedit <path>
[02:37] <Inf3ctedFx> lol Sh4d0x
[02:37] <Ralken> k
[02:37] <Ralken> thanks
[02:37] <Inf3ctedFx> defdc:  yes just donwload it then log off , select the choise session and select the one u want to start with
[02:37] <defdc> Lukian, you sure ? becaus ei think you choose your desktop environment there
[02:38] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, as future designer i need a strong graphical computer, that's why i chose G4 powerbook, ubuntu is just for fun :)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> defdc, what window manager did you install
[02:38] <Inf3ctedFx> Apple... good choise Sh4d0x
[02:38] <defdc> openbox
[02:38] <borfast> hi everyone
[02:38] <gnomefreak> defdc, openbox is a desktop eniveronment isnt it?
[02:39] <defdc> no i don't think so gnomefreak
[02:39] <gnomefreak> same as blackbox and fluxbox
[02:39] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, uhu better than microsnot windoze
[02:39] <gnomefreak> !info openbox
[02:39] <ubotu> openbox: (standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.2-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 194 kB, Installed size: 920 kB
[02:39] <Sh4d0x> Inf3ctedFx, :D
[02:39] <defdc> :)
[02:40] <borfast> guys, I'm about to update my kernel but I just thought: which version should I use, the i686 one or the K7 one? I'm asking this because I have an Athlon 64 but I'm not using the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, so which of these kernels would be better for my CPU?
[02:40] <defdc> ok, anyway i'll try now
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !fluxbox
[02:40] <ubotu> methinks fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[02:40] <Ng> borfast: k7
[02:40] <mustard5> borfast, k7 is for amd
[02:40] <Ralken> I just installed swat and whenever I put in the address for it in the browser it says the connection is refused
[02:41] <lowman62> okay how do I register my nick in here?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> i told him it was same :(
[02:41] <mustard5> !register
[02:41] <ubotu> I heard register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[02:41] <lowman62> ty :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> lowman62, /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:41] <borfast> ok, thanks, guys :)
[02:41] <borfast> I know K7 is for Athlons but I never bothered about this before. now I'm just curious as to why I installed the i686 version before... :P
[02:41] <mustard5> borfast, how much RAM you got?
[02:42] <lowman62> cool thanks loads
[02:42] <lowman62> :)
[02:42] <dailyrorschach> can I just upgrade firefox to 1.5 through apt-get?
[02:42] <mustard5> dailyrorschach, no
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dailyrorschach, no
[02:42] <Lukian> dailyrorschach: no, because it's not 'stable'
[02:42] <mustard5> !firefox15
[02:42] <ubotu> I guess firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[02:43] <dailyrorschach> ok, so I'll have to compile it manually
[02:43] <Lukian> if you are crazy enough :)
[02:43] <lowman62> dailyrorschach: tis barely worth upgrading to
[02:43] <lowman62> not much has changed
[02:43] <Lukian> lowman62: imho it's worth downgrading from :p
[02:43] <Inf3ctedFx> ok does anyone knows how can I prevent the TwinView?
[02:43] <mustard5> personally I'll just wait for a new version to arrive in the repos :)
[02:43] <lowman62> lol
[02:44] <mustard5> I'm too lazy to upgrade any other way :)
[02:44] <dailyrorschach> and I'm guessing to run gaim2beta on linux I'll need to compile it
[02:44] <Lukian> i use opera myself, so you can enjoy it if you like :P
[02:44] <nobotz> how does one list packages in ubuntu
[02:44] <gnomefreak> when it becomes "stable" enough for ubuntu they will backport it
[02:44] <odat> anyone have any experience getting an Aureal A3D sound chip working?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> nobotz,  to install or just to look through?
[02:45] <mustard5> nobotz, as in the whole list or just search via command line?
[02:45] <dailyrorschach> yes, I understand that, but that doesn't mean I don't also want to use the beta
[02:45] <borfast> mustard5: 512 MB
[02:45] <nobotz> just look through
[02:45] <nobotz> the list
[02:45] <nobotz> that is already installed
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nobotz,  go to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ohhhh
[02:45] <mustard5> borfast, k...I believe it won't make much difference unless you have over 1gb of RAM
[02:45] <gnomefreak> already installed
[02:45] <nobotz> yes
[02:45] <mustard5> borfast, I'm on AMD too..but I just stick with the 386 kernel now
[02:46] <gnomefreak> thats a good question ive never done that before :(
[02:46] <gnomefreak> !commands
[02:46] <ubotu> from memory, commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:46] <Davey`> is there any way to make my Seagate External Drive "One Touch Backup" button do something/
[02:46] <mustard5> nobotz, you on gnome?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> try that site see if it gives you the commands to use
[02:46] <mustard5> nobotz, couldn't you just look at the installed packages in synatic?
[02:47] <borfast> mustard5: I know that regarding the CPU, that is correct (64 bit handles much more RAM) but does the kernel have anything to do with that, too? I mean, is one of the kernels more optimized for more RAM?
[02:47] <nobotz> is there a  commandline tool
[02:47] <borfast> mustard5: and why do you stick with the 386? any special reason or simply because using one of the other kernels won't bring you much of an improvement?
[02:47] <frogzoo> nobotz: just kick off a terminal
[02:47] <indy> hi, somebody can help me? im trying to connect a pen drive in my ubuntu, but i dont know how to mount it
[02:47] <gnomefreak> nobotz,  go to those sites that ubotu posted and see if there is a command for it
[02:47] <mustard5> borfast, I believe k7 handles RAM over 1GB better for that motherboard...thats what I hear... :)
[02:47] <frogzoo> indy: most like will autodetect - just plug it in
[02:47] <Sh4d0x_lunching> Inf3ctedFx, i don't get it working :s there is just a small bomb icone in the tray , can you help me further after dinner, cuz i'm not getting wise of it
[02:48] <mustard5> borfast, I don't know the technicalities of it all :)
[02:48] <dailyrorschach> is there known problems with alps touchpads?
[02:48] <borfast> mustard5: ok :) thanks :)
[02:48] <mustard5> nobotz, well i wonder what apt-cache show might do
[02:48] <mustard5> nobotz, usually you put a package name in
[02:48] <dailyrorschach> because my ability to click seems to kick out every now and again
[02:48] <mustard5> nobotz, but you could see if it does more :)
[02:48] <indy> ok, but it doesnt it, hahaha
[02:48] <indy> i think
[02:49] <frogzoo> dailyrorschach: here too on a sony - think it's related to cpu/scaling
[02:49] <ZahnZa> i am having troube with my internet connection, i have a wireless connection, i am connected to my router and can ping outside sites but not view them in a browser or install packages
[02:49] <borfast> well, all done, time to reboot. I'll be back shortly, 'cause I have two other things to talk about here. I'll be back in a few moments ;)
[02:49] <dailyrorschach> yea, right now I'm stuck in xchat, not even alt tab is working at the moment though
[02:50] <frogzoo> dailyrorschach: kb not working sounds more serious though
[02:50] <gnomefreak> dailyrorschach,  what are you trying to do?
[02:50] <indy> frogzoo where is mount it? i'd try in all cdrom and floppy
[02:50] <frogzoo> indy: a folder show up on your desktop?
[02:50] <dailyrorschach> well im trying to use the click on my touchpad
[02:51] <dailyrorschach> but all of a sudden i can't
[02:51] <Lukian> nobotz: apt-cache showpkgs --installed
[02:51] <dailyrorschach> I can't tab-alt to change windows or click
[02:51] <dailyrorschach> my cursor is stuck as a input cursor and wont change when going over other windows
[02:51] <indy> there isnt a folder on my desktop, im in kde
[02:51] <Lukian> nobotz: apt-cache pkgnames --installed
[02:51] <Lukian> nobotz: sorry :D
[02:52] <indy> if i try on gnome would works?
[02:52] <ZahnZa> i am having troube with my internet connection, i have a wireless connection, i am connected to my router and can ping outside sites but not view them in a browser or install packages, anyone have any ideas?
[02:52] <dailyrorschach> got it to kinda word, I have to right click before left clicking...
[02:52] <dailyrorschach> ZahnZa: dns set up?
[02:52] <Lukian> that doesn't appear to work however?
[02:53] <nobotz> that does it Lukian
[02:53] <mustard5> indy, what file format is the pen drive?
[02:53] <ZahnZa> dailyrorschach, yes
[02:53] <indy> fat i think
[02:53] <mustard5> indy, you want an icon on your desktop or just want to mount it?
[02:53] <indy> it was formatted when i bought it
[02:53] <Lukian> nobotz: i get packages listed that aren't installed.
[02:54] <indy> two things that i downloaded
[02:54] <nobotz> no I am just trying to get broadcom wireless working on AMD64 laptop
[02:54] <nobotz> so was trying to see if I had gcc and related dev packages
[02:54] <nobotz> and kernel sources
[02:55] <nobotz> I am an debian/ubuntu newbie coming from an RPM based world
[02:55] <mustard5> nobotz, you could just type in the install commands and it well tell you if you have the latest version if you wanted to
[02:55] <gnomefreak> nobotz, to get dev packages with gcc sudo apt-get install build-essential and what you dont have it will install
[02:55] <lowman62> does anyone know how to mount a usb jumpdrive?
[02:55] <ga^vu> hi...i'm trying to install something, and it tells me "permission denied"
[02:56] <dailyrorschach> yeah this is nuts, I seem to loose the ability to properly click with my alps touchpad
[02:56] <ga^vu> can i do anything?
[02:56] <nobotz> yeah but internet needs to work for that
[02:56] <nobotz> for which I need to get the wifi driver running
[02:56] <nobotz> by copying files I need from another box
[02:56] <mustard5> ga^vu, what are you installing?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ga^vu,  use sudo before the command as in sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[02:56] <indy> ok, i mounted it!!!, thak you
[02:56] <ga^vu> opendchub
[02:56] <mustard5> nobotz, build-essential is on the install CD
[02:57] <nobotz> I don't have a CD
[02:57] <odat> anyone have any experience getting an Aureal A3D sound chip working?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install opendchub
[02:57] <mustard5> nobotz, hmmm..ok
[02:57] <gnomefreak> !wifi
[02:57] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:58] <nobotz> I am on that already
[02:58] <nobotz> downloaded the ndiswrapper
[02:58] <nobotz> etc.
[02:58] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello again ppl
[02:58] <gnomefreak> gm Inf3ctedFx
[02:58] <Inf3ctedFx> gm gnomefreak
[02:59] <lowman62> does anyone know how to mount a usb jumpdrive?
[02:59] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows how can I keep my icons on the desktop at the right hand side of my screen?
[02:59] <lowman62> in breezy of course :)
[02:59] <FaithX> xorg is hogging my cpu when I watch movies or even when I scoll large amounts of data in an xterm :-(
[03:00] <void^> what X driver?
[03:00] <lowman62> Inf3ctedFx: the only way I could find to do that was to turn my onitor upside down
[03:00] <lowman62> :P
[03:00] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[03:00] <Inf3ctedFx> that was funny
[03:00] <Inf3ctedFx> no 4 real
[03:00] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt have desktop icons
[03:01] <nobotz> I prefer the way the RPMS are normally listed on a single page for a specific platform
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Seveas,  is there a ubuntu-dev channel?
[03:02] <silfar> pessoal onde eu encontro informao pra configurar o velox no ubuntu ?
[03:02] <Seveas> gnomefreak, what do you need it for?
[03:02] <cliff> mornin
[03:02] <Seveas> silfar, please stick to english in here
[03:02] <FaithX> void^: Device "Silicon Motion, Inc. SM712 LynxEM+"
[03:02] <OMGsplosion> I am sexually attracted to Ubuntu
[03:02] <gnomefreak> i want to find out if the dapper kernel has same drivers as breezy kernel
[03:02] <Seveas> silfar, #ubuntu-br is the pt_BR speaking channel
[03:03] <gnomefreak> nic drivers to be less general
[03:03] <silfar> seveas sorry,  chanel error
[03:03] <silfar> by
[03:03] <Seveas> gnomefreak, newer versions and possibly more drivers
[03:03] <grogoreo> would someone mind telling why firefox is slower on linux than windows? Is it to do with linux or mozilla/firefox? Is this problem sorted with vr 1.5?
[03:03] <OMGsplosion> I think it is sorted in 1.5
[03:03] <OMGsplosion> from my own experience, it seems like they're both roughly the same speed
[03:04] <OMGsplosion> \m/(^^,)\m/
[03:04] <grogoreo> sorry, I forgot to mention when using CSS
[03:04] <OMGsplosion> uh-huh
[03:04] <OMGsplosion> I have no idea what CSS is
[03:04] <OMGsplosion> lol
[03:04] <grogoreo> with transparent backgrounds etc. It seems it doesn't render fast enough
[03:05] <grogoreo> Cascading Style Sheets, it changes the look of a web site
[03:05] <frogzoo> !tell OMGsplosion about restricted
[03:05] <gnomefreak> do you know what release its on?
[03:05] <ki4cgp> nobotz, what laptop brand/model did you get?  I'm curious as I have one waiting under the tree
[03:05] <gnomefreak> flight 2?
[03:05] <void^> FaithX: that's the id string reported by the device. you'll want to figure out what chipset it uses and which X driver you can use for acceleration.
[03:05] <nobotz> compaq r4016
[03:06] <ki4cgp> nobotz, ok.  similar to mine.  I'm getting an HP zv2601
[03:06] <lowman62> does anyone know how to mount a usb jumpdrive???
[03:06] <nobotz> ki4cgp: I remember having wiped off my previously configured ubuntu
[03:06] <nobotz> most of the stuff works
[03:06] <nobotz> but right now I am stuck with a vanilla install
[03:06] <nobotz> and no CD
[03:06] <nobotz> so trying to get things to work again
[03:06] <OMGsplosion> probably a n00b question, but how I do get the Ubuntu menu (the start menu thingy) to be semi-transparent?
[03:06] <ga^vu> if i create a server on ubuntu...can anyone help me configure internet?
[03:07] <Seveas> OMGsplosion, not easily, only if you install a composite manager and fiddle with a lot of settings
[03:07] <OMGsplosion>   :-(
[03:07] <lowman62> *takes jumpdrive shoves it like a pecker into windows box and shares it to samba* ..screw it that works
[03:07] <nobotz> ki4cgp: these machines are still slow
[03:07] <OMGsplosion> damn
[03:07] <ki4cgp> nobotz, what speed?
[03:07] <ga^vu> if i create a server on ubuntu...can anyone help me configure internet?
[03:07] <nobotz> the compaq/hp AMD 6 laptops
[03:07] <OMGsplosion> is it easier in KDE?
[03:07] <FaithX> void^: well at the moment it is using the "siliconmotion" driver
[03:08] <ga^vu> or...explain how to share internet connection
[03:08] <Sh4d0x> back
[03:09] <brother_of_jared> Greets!
[03:09] <Runensklave> hallo leute
[03:09] <brother_of_jared> Can someone remind me how to register a nick?
[03:09] <void^> FaithX: ok, should be ok then.. check if your video player uses xv for playback
[03:10] <Runensklave> everyone english here?
[03:10] <OMGsplosion> yep
[03:10] <Runensklave> ok no problem ;-)
[03:10] <brother_of_jared> <--- English
[03:10] <mjr> Runensklave, no, but that's the language of the channel
[03:10] <iflipti> well, american, but yeah
[03:10] <ga^vu> if i started an application from the terminal...how do i stop it? :D
[03:10] <lowman62> <---CANADIAN
[03:10] <lowman62> :D
[03:10] <mustard5> !register
[03:10] <ubotu> from memory, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[03:10] <brother_of_jared> <--- CANADIAN too
[03:10] <OMGsplosion> I usually just close the terminal window
[03:10] <stianh> omg
[03:10] <raphink> <---- French
[03:10] <Runensklave> I shall warn you in advance - I'm quite a noob, and need your help
[03:10] <lowman62> all right brother
[03:10] <brother_of_jared> !register
[03:11] <OMGsplosion> I'm aware its probably not the way to go
[03:11] <Runensklave> I want to run ubuntu and XP at the same time
[03:11] <OMGsplosion> okie-dokie
[03:11] <OMGsplosion> I'm doing that too
[03:11] <Rickat59> i just installed ubuntu .. it never asked me for a root password
[03:11] <Rickat59> what is it?
[03:11] <Runensklave> now do I need grub or something?
[03:11] <brother_of_jared> lowman, where you at?
[03:11] <OMGsplosion> it automatically installs grub
[03:11] <stianh> Runensklave, have you installed ubuntu?
[03:11] <Runensklave> or does it ask me what I want to boot?
[03:11] <Runensklave> not yet
[03:11] <stianh> ok
[03:11] <Runensklave> got my ext3 partition already
[03:11] <Runensklave> and a cd
[03:11] <lowman62> brother_of_jared: I lilve in savannah georgia :D
[03:11] <stianh> then you will be asked to install grub
[03:12] <Runensklave> ok will now install
[03:12] <lowman62> *live even
[03:12] <bigcx2> hey everyone
[03:12] <lowman62> :P
[03:12] <stianh> Runensklave, and grub will give options "Linux" and "DOS"
[03:12] <Runensklave> thank you very much!
[03:12] <Runensklave> see you!
[03:12] <stianh> DOS would be windows then :)
[03:12] <bigcx2> i have a question about dpkg
[03:12] <Runensklave> ok
[03:12] <Runensklave> thx
[03:12] <stianh> no worries
[03:12] <brother_of_jared> So.. how do I register a nick again?
[03:12] <stianh> hmm
[03:12] <no0tic> in dapper my ipod & others usb devices don't automount
[03:12] <stianh> . /msg nickserv register?
[03:12] <bigcx2> if i have a file on my system how can i see which package owns it
[03:13] <mustard5> .../msg nickserv register nickname password I think
[03:13] <OMGsplosion> Ubuntu kicks ass
[03:13] <OMGsplosion> \m/(^^,)\m/
[03:13] <mustard5> ./msg nickserv register help for the best advice
[03:13] <lowman62> OMG: sure does (_!_)
[03:13] <stianh> OMGsplosion, Noooo, it doesn't. that would be rude of it
[03:14] <OMGsplosion> lol
[03:14] <stianh> OMGsplosion, however it does rock, roll and rule
[03:14] <mustard5> brother_of_jared, heh..I got them all wrong I think :)
[03:14] <mustard5> brother_of_jared, /msg nickserv help register
[03:14] <bigcx2> if i have a file on my system how can i see which package owns it
[03:14] <bigcx2> anyone?
[03:15] <fenris> bigcx2: dpkg -S filename
[03:15] <brother_of_jared> Mustard... I got it.
[03:15] <bigcx2> i tried that...it said the file wasn't found even tho it's there
[03:15] <bigcx2> dpkg -S /usr/bin/java
[03:16] <mustard5> brother_of_jared, you've done well despite my misguiding advice :)
[03:16] <bigcx2> dpkg: /usr/bin/java not found.
[03:16] <brother_of_jared> mustard.. now the meaty question
[03:16] <fenris> bigcx2: perhaps it is a link
[03:16] <fenris> manged by the alternatives system
[03:16] <mustard5> bigcx2, I think apt-cache has some type of reverse depends function
[03:16] <fenris> managed
[03:16] <bigcx2> ahaa
[03:16] <brother_of_jared> how do I set GAIM it auto identify me when I some on?
[03:16] <enos> just installed, configured, and sent in my devices! mission accomplished.
[03:16] <bigcx2> tis a link
[03:16] <brother_of_jared> I'm used to mIRC
[03:17] <odat> anyone have any experience getting an Aureal A3D sound chip working?
[03:17] <mustard5> brother_of_jared, not sure about how GAIM works with IRC..
[03:17] <mustard5> brother_of_jared, I'm on xchat
[03:17] <brother_of_jared> enos // cool name
[03:17] <OMGsplosion> yeah speaking of GAIM, I was wondering is there anything I can do to make it notify me on-screen (not just via sound) ?
[03:17] <Sh4d0x> can anyone help me how to get a apple dock  in my ubuntu, i installed superkaramba but i don't get it :$
[03:17] <OMGsplosion> +if someone comes on/off line
[03:18] <enos> Why wasn't i asked to setup a root password, during the installation, and where can I set this up?
[03:18] <enos> brother_of_jared, thanks
[03:18] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, are you on breezy?
[03:18] <brother_of_jared> enos // does it come from a small blue book?
[03:18] <OMGsplosion> yes I am mustard
[03:18] <soldieruk400> hi all
[03:19] <enos> brother_of_jared, I have no clue. I was just sorta born with it. lol.
[03:19] <rev> I just installed fglrx drivers but now all the fonts are supersized... where can I set the dpi?
[03:19] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, hmmm k...my gaim flashes the message in task bar when a message comes in
[03:19] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, there must be an option in there somewhere
[03:19] <Sh4d0x> mustard5  yup there is
[03:19] <brother_of_jared> enos // no problem.. I've just never encountered it outside the Book of Mormon is all
[03:19] <sciboy> Guys it's been an entire month and i still can't figure out what's wrong, i can't print anything to my Epson C45 using CUPS.
[03:19] <OMGsplosion> yes mine too.. but what I mean is like in the windows msn there's like a little thing that popups in the lower right hand corner that tells me "mustard5 has just signed in"
[03:20] <OMGsplosion> does GAIM do that?
[03:20] <sciboy> I'm running a Debian system, but i'm pretty desperate right now.
[03:20] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, ah ok
[03:20] <nocturn> Has anyone here used oem-config?
[03:20] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, not sure about that one
[03:20] <brother_of_jared> OMG // mot that I've noticed
[03:20] <sciboy> I have absolutely no idea whats wrong!
[03:20] <brother_of_jared> *not
[03:20] <OMGsplosion> lol... me neither
[03:20] <Sh4d0x> OMGsplosion, hmm, mayB you need to search in the preferences by plugin
[03:21] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, buddly list has a 'raise window on events' option
[03:21] <sciboy> I mean, i plug it in, it does the usual usblp shit and whola lsusb shows it's there, i run mtink and look at that, i've wasted half my ink and haven't printed off one page yet.
[03:22] <OMGsplosion> interesting... so when someone logs in it will raise the window?
[03:22] <sciboy> I go to cups web interface, my printer having been setup with a range of printer drivers, the only consistent thing being /dev/usb/lp0
[03:22] <sciboy> usb:/dev/usb/lp0
[03:22] <iflipti> mustard5, do you know anything about PCMCIA cards?
[03:22] <mustard5> OMGsplosion, I would assume so, if you have it set to watch for that event in the list underneath maybe
[03:22] <sciboy> I just don't get it...
[03:22] <mustard5> iflipti, absolutely nil about them :)
[03:23] <sciboy> Where's the malfunction?
[03:23] <sciboy> I mean, can i atleast get an error message or something.
[03:23] <no0tic> hey, where can I talk about dapper problems?
[03:23] <sciboy> Not this whole silent, I REFUSE TO PRINT shit.
[03:23] <iflipti> mustard5, ok, no worries.
[03:23] <odat> anyone have any experience getting an Aureal A3D sound chip working?
[03:24] <mustard5> odat, I would think they should work by default
[03:24] <sciboy> I remember a "Cannot connect to device error" somewhere along the line, but that really didn't take me anywhere.
[03:24] <brother_of_jared> Raise window???
[03:24] <mustard5> odat, is it not working at all or just no 3d?
[03:24] <odat> mustard5, not at all
[03:24] <sciboy> E [24/Dec/2005:01:01:26 +1100]  PID 7112 crashed on signal 9!
[03:25] <odat> mustard5, not even recognized by lspci
[03:25] <mustard5> odat, hmmmm
[03:26] <brother_of_jared> Greets Hymn
[03:26] <enos> how do I mount vfat?
[03:27] <brother_of_jared> With Linux, specifically Breezy... how do you check the size and usage of your drive(s)?
[03:27] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me the difference between ubuntu and suse?
[03:27] <HymnToLife> hi brother_of_jared
[03:27] <enos> a
[03:27] <HymnToLife> brother_of_jared > sudo disks-admin
[03:28] <BlueDevil> brother_of_jared: df -h
[03:28] <brother_of_jared> in terminal?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> yes
[03:28] <brother_of_jared> is there an icon I can use?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> or System > Administration > Disks
[03:28] <HymnToLife> it's the same thing
[03:28] <mustard5> odat, I'm just googling around for something
[03:28] <brother_of_jared> cool thanks
[03:30] <giggsey> humm, I am in great need of help :P
[03:30] <sciboy> [Job 19]  Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": Success
[03:30] <iflipti> could someone tell me what "run make installfw" means?  Is make a command/program?
[03:30] <mustard5> odat, I'm seeing references to a linux driver for them in google...not sure whether thats going to lead anywhere though
[03:31] <korpt1x> hi
[03:31] <giggsey> Is it possible to install ubuntu using a gentoo livecd - I have a 5.10 install cd, but it keeps failing on installing base system (burnt it twice, and the download matches the MD5sum)
[03:32] <korpt1x> im
[03:32] <korpt1x> back
[03:32] <korpt1x> hahaha
[03:32] <korpt1x> im using ubuntu off liveCD
[03:32] <korpt1x> and it wont connect to the net
[03:32] <korpt1x> ?
[03:32] <mustard5> odat, is it a card or onboard?
[03:32] <sciboy> [Job 19]  Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usblp0": Success
[03:32] <korpt1x> ..
[03:32] <sciboy> Is usb:/dev/etc the right thing to be using?
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> anybody use imagemajick ?
[03:32] <korpt1x> ?
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> how is it?
[03:33] <S11m> Hi
[03:33] <brother_of_jared> inkscape anyone?
[03:33] <giggsey> *cough*(
[03:33] <S11m> I would like to ask a question
[03:33] <korpt1x> hello
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> S11m,  you can't
[03:33] <DarkFame> lol
[03:34] <S11m> lol
[03:34] <S11m> Im just polite;)(
[03:34] <S11m> ;)
[03:34] <AD> hey, does anyone know if there is any accelerated opengl support for trident cards?
[03:34] <korpt1x> hi
[03:34] <korpt1x> ?
[03:34] <S11m> I dowed The ubuntu Live cd
 im using ubuntu off liveCD
 and it wont connect to the net
[03:35] <S11m> booted it up
[03:35] <S11m> thn it was starting to create me an usrname
[03:35] <HymnToLife> anyone knows a mov => avi converter ?
[03:35] <S11m> but said tht it is too short or sumthing
[03:35] <brother_of_jared> sorry I don't
[03:35] <DarkFame> your password?
[03:35] <S11m> i diidint eaven give him one!
[03:35] <korpt1x> ..
[03:35] <korpt1x> help
[03:36] <korpt1x> help again
[03:36] <brother_of_jared> sorry korpt.. I'm a newbie at this OS
[03:36] <HymnToLife> korpt1x > which kind of connection do you have ?
[03:36] <S11m> so? wtf is going on
[03:36] <chrissturm> will dapper come with gaim 2.0?
[03:36] <korpt1x> i have
[03:36] <korpt1x> DSL
[03:37] <korpt1x> ADSL
[03:37] <CaptainMorgan> S11m, your computer is a he?
[03:37] <korpt1x> d-link
[03:37] <CaptainMorgan> mine's a gal...
[03:37] <korpt1x> from optis
[03:37] <korpt1x> *Optus
[03:37] <korpt1x> >
[03:37] <blastradius> eeeekk lot of people here!
[03:37] <korpt1x> ?
[03:37] <korpt1x> HymnToLife well ?
[03:37] <brother_of_jared> Any chance of seeing the Daper logo and colors yet?
[03:37] <brother_of_jared> I'd like to start working on Daper graphics...
[03:37] <CaptainMorgan> blastradius, it's only your imagination
[03:37] <S11m> I donwed ubuntu live, booted it, it started do make me and USR, but thn a Error popped up and sayed tht my usrname is too sohtr os something
[03:38] <kotton> I want to install yahelite, and it says it uses wine.  What is wine?  yes I am newbie...very
[03:38] <S11m> it did not eaven ask for one
[03:38] <korpt1x> hello
[03:38] <korpt1x> hii
[03:38] <S11m> i pressed Go back at the error
[03:38] <S11m> it contineud
[03:38] <S11m> continued* to install
[03:38] <odat> mustard5, its onboard
[03:38] <S11m> thn i was at the login screen
[03:38] <Davey`> CaptainMorgan: with your nick like that, that almost has sexual connotations :P
[03:38] <yhcheong> couldn't install xmms
[03:39] <S11m> so:) wtf is the usrname it makes you?
[03:39] <S11m> and the dam pass too
[03:39] <korpt1x> hello
[03:39] <brother_of_jared> S11m // sorry I don't have an answer for you.. I just did a format and full install
[03:39] <kotton> good morning korpt1x
[03:40] <brother_of_jared> Anyone with info on the Dapper Logo and/or colours??
[03:40] <korpt1x> hi
[03:40] <yhcheong> need help
[03:40] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/476623
 im using ubuntu off liveCD
[03:40] <korpt1x> and it wont connect to the net
[03:40] <CaptainMorgan> Davey, Goldy is a she :-D
[03:40] <korpt1x> ffs
[03:41] <Davey`> CaptainMorgan: well, yay ;)
[03:41] <Nei> hey, can someone tell me how I get a background image on my textmode console?
[03:41] <odat> korpios, go to the setting and networking and activate the ethernet card
[03:41] <kotton> korpt1x: if you are here then you are connected to net
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> i think...
[03:41] <brother_of_jared> Captain.. not all she's are 100% she...
[03:41] <korpt1x> no
[03:41] <korpt1x> idiot
[03:41] <korpt1x> i have win32
[03:41] <kotton> NO?
[03:41] <S11m> damit..
[03:41] <korpt1x> im using vmware
[03:41] <kotton> oh I see
[03:41] <bolrod> haha
[03:42] <S11m> any1 here usen ubuntu livE?
[03:42] <bolrod> maybe set up vmware correctly?
[03:42] <bolrod> :P
[03:42] <korpt1x> YES
[03:42] <korpt1x> i am
[03:42] <S11m> k
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> S11m, what's your native language ?
[03:42] <S11m> Estonian;)
[03:42] <kotton> what is wine please?
[03:42] <odat> korpt1x, go to the setting and networking and activate the ethernet card
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> wine is my sister
[03:42] <bolrod> wine is not an emulator
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> be nice
[03:42] <bolrod> :] 
[03:42] <korpt1x> i have
[03:42] <korpt1x> DSL/ADSL
[03:42] <korpt1x> D-DLINK
[03:42] <korpt1x> umm
[03:42] <korpt1x> settings wheres that?
[03:43] <bolrod> you run windows... and you are running ubuntu in vmware
[03:43] <yhcheong> NEED HELP
[03:43] <S11m> Boldrod: did it ask u for an usernaem and pass?
[03:43] <S11m> username/
[03:43] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/476623
[03:43] <brother_of_jared> so I take it no one has any info on the logo or colours of the new Dapper to be released in the spring....?
[03:43] <bolrod> and you are most certain that vmware is correctly installed..  and configured so it can use the internet?
[03:43] <korpt1x> yes
[03:43] <S11m> hmm
[03:43] <sercz> hey everyone
[03:43] <S11m> u used expert or normal?
[03:43] <S11m> id didnt ask mee..
[03:44] <S11m> me*
[03:44] <odat> korpt1x, menu administration  i think               i'm using xfce right now
[03:44] <bolrod> put it on bridged networking I guess.. can't remember
[03:44] <bolrod> maybe you turned off dhcp ?....
[03:44] <bolrod> in your router
[03:44] <bolrod> and your ubuntu wants dhcp... to get an adress
[03:44] <bolrod> ?
[03:44] <S11m> just started to make me one and thn sayed tht mine was too short or sumthing else
[03:45] <korpt1x> ok
[03:45] <korpt1x> br
[03:45] <korpt1x> b
[03:45] <brother_of_jared> be back in a while
[03:45] <S11m> i pressed go back and it just continued
[03:45] <Rickat59> korpios ... you can check your vmware settings by right clicking on the ubuntu name
[03:46] <yhcheong> need help
[03:46] <yhcheong> cant install xmms
[03:46] <S11m>  cant anyone help me?:(
[03:46] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/476623
[03:46] <deFrysk> jaf
[03:46] <yhcheong> can anyone help?
[03:46] <Runensklave> here I am again
[03:46] <Runensklave> it didn't work
[03:46] <korpt1x> man
[03:46] <korpt1x> i need
[03:46] <korpt1x> help setting it up
[03:46] <korpt1x> the network
[03:47] <korpt1x> i use dsl/ modem
[03:47] <Runensklave> I have made a partition with windows
[03:47] <korpt1x> ..
[03:47] <Rickat59> do you know linux korpt1x?
[03:47] <korpt1x> haha if i did do u think ill be asking
[03:47] <korpt1x> funny kid heh
[03:47] <Rickat59> yeah : )
[03:48] <korpt1x> ..
[03:48] <Nei> where is a good place to put commands that should get executed on each time getty is respawned?
[03:48] <Runensklave> an ext3 one with 9GB
[03:48] <Rickat59> i know linux .. but running it under vmware is different
[03:48] <korpt1x> (_|_)
[03:48] <korpt1x> de
[03:48] <korpt1x> r
[03:48] <DarkFame> vmware needs vmware tools installed on the guest os
[03:48] <Runensklave> I've got another 2 partitions
[03:48] <Rickat59> doesn't actually need it ..
[03:48] <korpt1x> man
[03:48] <korpt1x> all i wanna do is
[03:48] <korpt1x> set my network
[03:48] <Rickat59> but it works best if yu do
[03:48] <korpt1x> ffs
[03:48] <DarkFame> performance sucks without it
[03:48] <Runensklave> and now when I try to install ubuntu
[03:49] <Rickat59> true DarkFame
[03:49] <DarkFame> use qemu, it's free. :)
[03:49] <Runensklave> it asks me if I want to resize one of my other ones
[03:49] <korpt1x> fuck me dead mate
[03:49] <Rickat59> does your network use dhcp korpt1x
[03:49] <korpt1x> i duno
[03:49] <korpt1x> i have DSL
[03:49] <korpt1x> d-link
[03:49] <S11m> damit
[03:50] <Rickat59> d-link switch or network card?
[03:50] <Runensklave> when I go into the partition manager, it just says the 9GB ext3 but I don't know what to do with it
[03:50] <korpt1x> dis guy is blonde
[03:50] <korpt1x> its DSL
[03:50] <korpt1x> no card
[03:50] <korpt1x> from fone line
[03:51] <morenocid> Does anyone has "X" the anime serie, or know where to download it
[03:51] <morenocid> ?
[03:51] <Rickat59> ok so you have a dsl card in your computer?
[03:51] <korpt1x> no
[03:51] <Rickat59> or you have network card with a box?
[03:51] <brother_of_jared> how do you create a theme for your menus and desktop?
[03:51] <korpt1x> nooooooo
[03:51] <korpt1x> i have a modem
[03:51] <Rickat59> in windows ..
[03:51] <void^> morenocid: very wrong place to ask.
[03:51] <korpt1x> yes
[03:51] <brother_of_jared> Ubuntu
[03:51] <korpt1x> fuck
[03:51] <Rickat59> what does it tell you that you have for a network card
[03:52] <korpt1x> ohh mate
[03:52] <korpt1x> wtf u on about
[03:52] <korpt1x> i dont know anything
[03:52] <korpt1x> thats why im here
[03:52] <Rickat59> who setup your network?
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> Ubuntu!
[03:52] <caonex> 0000:00:05.0 9050: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]  (rev bf)
[03:52] <caonex> , this is the result of lspci. However, this card is not present in the network configuration. It was detected in ubuntu hoary, but not in breezy. Why is this?
[03:52] <Evil_Whisper> hey guys
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> hey
[03:52] <DarkFame> caonex, upgrade?
[03:52] <Evil_Whisper> I need help installing my nvidia drivers
[03:53] <caonex> DarkFame, clean install actually
[03:53] <brother_of_jared> Oh! Captain My Captain!  How do I create a theme for Ubuntu menus and shtuff?
[03:53] <korpt1x> ffs
[03:53] <CaptainMorgan> I need $$
[03:53] <Evil_Whisper> The nvidia installer from nvidia.com says It cannot find the version header oin the kernel source.. :(
[03:53] <brother_of_jared> So do I
[03:53] <korpt1x> HAHAHA
[03:53] <DarkFame> Evil_Whisper, you need to download kernel-headers
[03:53] <caonex> DarkFame, I find it weird that lspci makes it look like it has the driver for it, but it isnt in the network configuration.
[03:53] <korpt1x> ITS WORKING
[03:53] <korpt1x> FKN YEA
[03:53] <korpt1x> AND I DIDNT NEED NO ONES HELP
[03:53] <korpt1x> MUHAHA
[03:53] <korpt1x> brb
[03:54] <caonex> DarkFame, what is even more weird is that the other one took eth1 as the position instead of eth0.
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> brother_of_jared, "create" one? f**ed if I knnow... but be sure to show this brotha when you're done.. love to see it
[03:54] <DarkFame> caonex, other one?
[03:54] <Runensklave> can someone help me?
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> maybe
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> maybe not
[03:54] <Runensklave> the situation is the following
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> sorry.. I tried
[03:54] <brother_of_jared> I'll surf around and see what I can find out..
[03:54] <DarkFame> Evil_Whisper, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[03:55] <brother_of_jared> What sort of Theme would you want?
[03:55] <Sh4d0x> i just installed Kmail (cus evolution doesn't support my gmail) but where can i find a "shortcut"
[03:55] <Runensklave> i want XP as well as Ubuntu
[03:55] <CaptainMorgan> lay them on me brother_of_jared
[03:55] <Runensklave> so I made an ext4 partition
[03:55] <brother_of_jared> so anything then?
[03:55] <Runensklave> ext3 sorry
[03:55] <caonex> DarkFame, it should take eth1 if eth0 is taken, but since the eth0 isnt being detected it should take eth0 but that tells me that actually is detected but cant be configured or soemthing
[03:55] <CaptainMorgan> sure
[03:55] <DarkFame> caonex, do you have two nics?
[03:55] <brother_of_jared> I'm gonna surf n' learn.. see what I can find.. brb
[03:55] <CaptainMorgan> what is on your ext3 Runen?
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, if your question was if i had another card, yes i have two of them, and both were detected by hoary and were in the network configuration
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, yes
[03:56] <DarkFame> caonex, the other one is detected and configured correctly?
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, 0000:00:05.0 9050: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]  (rev bf)
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, yeah....that is the one i am using now
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 78)
[03:56] <caonex> DarkFame, that VIA is the one i am using
[03:57] <caonex> DarkFame, according to lspci that pci is known...as if there is a module for it....
[03:57] <Evil_Whisper> DarkFame, what can I do I already have the headers installed.
[03:58] <DarkFame> caonex, the 3com is a gbit card, right?
[03:59] <DarkFame> Evil_Whisper, for you current kernel?
[03:59] <Ralken> I am trying to restart inetd and for some reason i cant ps it to get the process id any ideas?
[04:00] <DarkFame> Ralken, tried sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart ?
[04:01] <Ralken> DarkFame,  thanks didnt even think to try it in sudo
[04:02] <TheCyrus> Hey everyone, i'm still trying to install Ubuntu on my computer, but while installing the base system, it exits with a debootstrap error and gives me a return value of 1. I'm using a pressed Breezy CD for x86. Thanks
[04:02] <DonVincenzo> hi, I would like my system to perform apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade in a non interactive fashion, at startup.Since it requires root access, I do not know where I should add those commands. Can anyone help me ?
[04:02] <Evil_Whisper> OHHHH I figured it out I think
[04:02] <DarkFame> caonex, try grepping for Boomerang in dmesg
[04:03] <dailyrorschach> has anyone been able to compile gaim2.0beta, the configure script is telling me that GLib 2.0 is not installed or configured improperly
[04:03] <Evil_Whisper> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10 linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[04:03] <Evil_Whisper> be right back going to try again
[04:03] <soundray> DonVincenzo, probably /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:03] <caonex> DarkFame, i am not sure
[04:03] <DarkFame> caonex, dmesg | grep Boomerang
[04:04] <DonVincenzo> dailyrorschach: do you performed "sudo apt-get  build-dep gaim" before compiling ?
[04:04] <soundray> DonVincenzo, note the -y (--assume-yes) option.
[04:04] <caonex> DarkFame, [4294685.392000]  0000:00:05.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0x1000. Vers LK1.1.19
[04:04] <DarkFame> caonex, if I remember correctly... the Boomerang is now supported by the vortex module.
[04:04] <dailyrorschach> DonVincenzo, I think i found what i was missing, I think it wanted the development package as well
[04:04] <Sh4d0x> soundray, hi there :D
[04:04] <DarkFame> caonex, dmesg | grep Boomerang -5
[04:04] <soundray> Hi Sh4d0x
[04:04] <TheCyrus> oh, hey soundray
[04:05] <soundray> TheCyrus, sorry to hear you're still stuck.
[04:05] <TheCyrus> yeah, but i got a return value this time
[04:05] <TheCyrus> and i looked for the log
[04:05] <TheCyrus> couldn't find it.
[04:05] <caonex> DarkFame, privately paste 6 lines?
[04:05] <DarkFame> caonex, yep
[04:05] <Sh4d0x> can you help me soundray, i'm looking for a objectdock like in mac but is has to work for linux
[04:06] <DonVincenzo> dailyrorschach: yes, it needs the development package. When you want to build from source, qlways perfom an apt-get build-dep.You should add the deb-src repositories. It works well, because it will download automatically all the needed dev files. I discovered it yesterday, I found it very useful.
[04:06] <soundray> Sh4d0x, I've heard that one exists, but haven't got it handy...
[04:06] <caonex> DarkFame, it seems to be detected, but its not in the configuration
[04:06] <ubuntu> does anyone know how 2 use bliuetooth with ubuntu
[04:06] <soundray> TheCyrus, did you check your hard disk?
[04:06] <DarkFame> caonex, I think you can configure it just by using System -> Administration -> Networking
[04:06] <Sh4d0x> soundray, than i'll continue googling :) if i found one i'll let you know 2 :)
[04:07] <ubuntu> how can u use bluetooth with ubuntu
[04:07] <caonex> DarkFame, i went there, only eth1 is to configure
[04:07] <frogzoo> any strong feelings either way which flash player works best? mozilla or nonfree?
[04:07] <DarkFame> caonex, ic
[04:07] <dailyrorschach> anyone else here using a dell latitude d600 and able to get the fonts to look good
[04:07] <Ralken> DarkFame,  thanks didnt even think to try it in sudo
[04:07] <Ralken> DarkFame,  thanks didnt even think to try it in sudo
[04:07] <DarkFame> Ralken, np
[04:07] <Evil_Whisper> thanks DarkFame
[04:08] <Evil_Whisper> I got it and am running the new nvidia drivers now
[04:08] <TheCyrus> soundray, i did. The jumper's set for primary master.
[04:08] <DarkFame> great :)
[04:08] <AskHL> Hey, when configuring shortcut keys in Ubuntu, I find a lot of shortcuts denoted "0xbb" and "0xdf" etc., how would I invoke those? Also, if I want to bind shortcuts using the infamous windows key like ctrl, alt or shift, how would I do that? I cannot seem to bind key *combinations* with it.
[04:08] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, what seems to be the problem with the fonts?
[04:09] <caonex> DarkFame, that is what i meant to tell you. In hoary, it was there, in breezy it isnt
[04:09] <DarkFame> caonex, what does sudo ifup eth0 say ?
[04:09] <dailyrorschach> DarkFame, they're just not looking right, I installed the ms fonts, but it just doesn't feel right, and the smoothing looks terrible
[04:09] <caonex> DarkFame, Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[04:09] <soundray> AskHL, have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039 ?
[04:10] <DarkFame> System -> Preferences -> Font (check if subpixel smoothening is selected)
[04:10] <AskHL> soundray, thank you. I'm reading
[04:10] <caonex> DarkFame, see what i am saying. Howcome, the other network card chose eth1
[04:10] <DarkFame> caonex, could you paste those 6 lines in a query?
[04:10] <dailyrorschach> DarkFame, right now it's set to best shapes
[04:11] <DarkFame> caonex, I think a alias might be missing.
[04:11] <soundray> TheCyrus, did you say the error always occurs at 19% on the progress bar?
[04:11] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, I suggest subpixel smoothening for LCDs
[04:11] <dailyrorschach> ok
[04:11] <dailyrorschach> and are there other font packages not mentioned in the wiki, I had fonts at 96 dpi but smaller in windows, ubuntu feeels so bg
[04:11] <frogzoo> The_Cyrus: problem with install cd?
[04:11] <Ralken> for some reason I cannot connect to swat
[04:11] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, are you sure you are using the best resolution for your lcd screen?
[04:12] <dailyrorschach> yeah
[04:12] <dailyrorschach> using the native
[04:12] <dailyrorschach> and I've downlaoded the ATI drivers
[04:13] <frogzoo> The_Cyrus: from the cd's boot prompt, try 'linux acpi=off'
[04:13] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, did you restart your webbrowser etc. after you installed MS core fonts?
[04:13] <Ralken> I did what the directions said to do to initiate swat but still cant get the browser to open it. Any ideas
[04:13] <dailyrorschach> yeah
[04:13] <dailyrorschach> I've restarted the entire system
[04:13] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, do you have a screenshot?
[04:14] <Ralken> I've also restarted inetd
[04:14] <dailyrorschach> sure I can get one
[04:14] <Rickat59> interesting, i'm using vmware .. and i let ubuntu updater run .. it killed my network
[04:14] <DarkFame> Ralken, you have inetd running? I think you have to enable swat by commenting it out in the config.
[04:15] <Rickat59> i had to load the vmxnet modules by hand to get it working again
[04:15] <soundray> frogzoo, if The_Cyrus's problem was acpi, would the install kernel even boot?
[04:15] <dailyrorschach> DarkFame, can I just send them to you, or would you rather I upload
[04:15] <Ralken> DarkFame, It was originally commented out but the directions told me to put in a line to put it back in
[04:16] <frogzoo> soundray: yep - this is a known problem, at least on compaq dl-380
[04:16] <soundray> frogzoo, weird.
[04:16] <luisito> hello
[04:17] <DarkFame> Ralken, you removed the # ?
[04:17] <Ralken> DarkFame, yes
[04:18] <luisito> anybody can tell me a list of configuration files like fstab, xorg.conf, sources.list, etc... to backup, please?
[04:18] <DarkFame> Ralken, ok.. if you install the port mapper nmap, you can nmap yourself (127.0.0.1) to see which services are running.
[04:18] <hussam> is this reporsitory down is it just me http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[04:18] <soundray> luisito, why not back up all of /etc?
[04:18] <Seveas> !tell hussam about seveas
[04:19] <luisito> soundray, ok then. thank you
[04:19] <dailyrorschach> DarkFame, can I send you those screenshots?
[04:19] <hussam> Seveas: thank you
[04:19] <sunshine82> im getting this error ssl version 2 is disablebed if anyone know what this means HELLLPP
[04:19] <frogzoo> luisito: all of /etc & /home
[04:20] <soundray> dailyrorschach, post them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org -- I'm interested, too.
[04:20] <dailyrorschach> ok
[04:20] <Ralken> DarkFame, I can do the same with ubuntu's network tools > Netstat
[04:20] <DarkFame> yes, do that
[04:20] <luisito> thanks
[04:21] <dailyrorschach> here's the first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6072
[04:21] <DarkFame> Ralken, yes, that's another way.
[04:21] <Ralken> DarkFame, I dont see swat there tho
[04:21] <DarkFame> port 901 right? I think that's swats port.
[04:21] <Ralken> DarkFame, yeah
[04:22] <DarkFame> Ralken, but you removed the # in front of the line with the swat config?
[04:22] <dailyrorschach> and yet another screen shot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6073
[04:23] <Ralken> DarkFame,  yeah I removed the #
[04:23] <hussam> Seveas: one last question, it is normal to get: "Ign" http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release.gpg
[04:23] <dailyrorschach> DarkFame, soundray, I posted the screen shots, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6073 the other is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6072 I need to run up a minute could you please PM me your thoughts so I dont loose them
[04:24] <Ralken> DarkFame, I sent a kill all request to it as well so it would read the changes as well
[04:24] <DarkFame> dailyrorschach, i don't see any jaggy fonts in those shots?
[04:24] <Seveas> hussam, no...
[04:24] <soundray> dailyrorschach, looks okay to me too...
[04:24] <Seveas> hussam, do you get warnings about unauthenticated packages?
[04:25] <esses> hi all
[04:25] <TheAttacks> hi
[04:25] <HymnToLife> anyone knows a mov => avi converter ?
[04:25] <esses> Does anyone knows where libglade3 is?
[04:25] <TheAttacks> kind of weird, there's like 600 people on this channel, but no one talks haha
[04:25] <esses> for anjuta 2.x
[04:25] <hussam> Seveas: no, I did apt-get update a second time and it works fine now. I imported the gpg file
[04:26] <DarkFame> TheAttacks, idlers :)
[04:26] <TheAttacks> esses, have you tried apt-get?
[04:26] <esses> no i tried gnome cvs and there i didn't found it :-)
[04:26] <TheAttacks> oh, where, not what. haha sorry, bad eyes
[04:27] <DarkFame> Ralken, I guess the reason swat is being a bit troublesome is it comes from the universe rep. not all packages there are compatible with Ubuntu without some tweaking.
[04:28] <Ralken> DarkFame, any idea where I would get more help?
[04:28] <Ralken> DarkFame, or a way around the problem
[04:28] <DarkFame> Ralken, I've made swat work on ubuntu 5.10... but I had to do some try&fail methods before it worked.
[04:28] <soundray> HymnToLife, since you're not getting any other reply, I suggest you look at transcode.
[04:29] <DarkFame> Ralken, could you give me your config?
[04:29] <soundray> HymnToLife, it's a low-level tool, though, afaik.
[04:29] <TheAttacks> I'm having a problem with my GRUB menu, it doesn't show, then the initial boot screen before the "pretty" one for Ubuntu is all jarbled
[04:29] <Ralken> DarkFame, config to?
[04:30] <DarkFame> Ralken, inetd
[04:30] <esses> no idea about libglade?
[04:30] <TheAttacks> esses, just curious, what do you need to find it for?
[04:30] <Nei> hello, how can I disable X from starting automatically on boot?
[04:31] <Ralken> DarkFame, sure but it may take a sec cause its on a different pc with no removable storage Ill have to e-mail it to you or myself and send it via irc
[04:31] <Rickat59> how do i install the compiler?
[04:31] <Techie-Micheal> TheAttacks: Don't come in to our channel again to spam, clear?
[04:31] <Silmar> Hello everyone :)
[04:31] <Rickat59> gcc that is
[04:31] <esses> I'm compiling anjuta, a gnome c++ ide, and i found all packages required except for this
[04:32] <Ralken> DarkFame, how would you like to recieve it?
[04:32] <TheAttacks> Techie-Micheal, what do you mean?
[04:33] <LeaChim> How can i redirect where a certain file is installed through apt/dpkg? - say, i want /bin/whatever to actually be installed in /bin/somethingelse whenever i update etc.
[04:34] <Ralken> DarkFame, how would you like to recieve it?
[04:34] <DarkFame> Ralken, just query the lines concerning swat
[04:34] <soundray> Rickat59, apt-get install build-essential
[04:34] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me the command for terminal to remove programs?
[04:35] <soundray> Sh4d0x, apt-get remove package (add --purge to also delete config files)
[04:35] <soundray> Sh4d0x, needs sudo if you aren't root of course.
[04:35] <Sh4d0x> soundray *respect*
[04:35] <Ralken> www.cox.net
[04:35] <HymnToLife> soundray > thanks :)
[04:36] <Evil_Whisper> Yay eye candy xcompmgr
[04:37] <Sh4d0x> soundray: superkaramba is a program that offers a dock like in mac (but it isn't that nice)
[04:37] <caonex> why cant i configure 0000:00:05.0 9050: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]  (rev bf) in ubuntu breezy. It used to be detected by hoary
[04:38] <Evil_Whisper> soundray: if your using gnome you can use gdesklets to create a mac style doc
[04:38] <Evil_Whisper> Sh4d0x how would I stop the gnome panel from reloading if I turned on the gdesklet dock?
[04:39] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, i was looking for a dock program like the dock in mac, i told soundray i would let him know :)
[04:39] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, to be honestly, i dunno :$ I myself am only working for a week in ubuntu :$
[04:40] <The_Cyrus> anyone else know how i can get past the debootstrap error while installing?
[04:42] <Ralken> DarkFame, sending config now
[04:42] <LeaChim> How can i redirect where a certain file is installed through apt/dpkg? - say, i want /bin/whatever to actually be installed in /bin/somethingelse whenever i update etc.
[04:45] <Ralken> DarkFame, are you getting the DCC
[04:45] <ala_> anyone know how to  set evolution to display inline imgaes automatically?
[04:47] <rinzai-shu> LeaChim: you should just create a symlink. something like :  ln -s /bin/foo /bin/bar  and that way whenever /bin/foo is updated or changed, calling /bin/bar will use the latest version anyway.  harpy horrordays! merry crispness!
[04:48] <LeaChim> rinzai-shu, that's not what i need though
[04:48] <LeaChim> i need the file to only be where i stick it, because i want to put something else where it would normally go
[04:48] <Evil_Whisper> whats the value for non transparent?
[04:48] <Evil_Whisper> using transset
[04:50] <meheren> ah!! someone plz help! g++ is broken and i can't seem to reinstall it or anything else when installing it says defualt compiler not found (g++) plz someone help!
[04:50] <rinzai-shu> LeaChim: enhh, it is better to not be so unconventional.  then again, using all system defaults is inherently insecure. oh the choices we must face!  oh the humanity!
[04:50] <meheren> sudo apt-get install does not work and aptitude and downloading manually then ./configure does not work either!
[04:51] <meheren> plz anyone have any ideas???
[04:51] <Evil_Whisper> meheren try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:51] <ala_> search for headers in synaptic and install that package
[04:51] <meheren> i did
[04:52] <Evil_Whisper> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[04:52] <meheren> ok ill try
[04:52] <meheren> thx
[04:52] <LeaChim> rinzai-shu, and the alternative way of doing it is compiling sshd myself to use ttysnoops instead of /bin/login ;)
[04:52] <Evil_Whisper> no problem
[04:53] <caonex> Can anybody tell me why the 3c905 was detected in ubuntu hoary, but it is not detected in breezy?
[04:54] <grshpr> how do i install a charset for swedish in ubuntu with xfce?
[04:54] <rinzai-shu> LeaChim: good luck with all that, and morry kwaanza!
[04:54] <meheren> it says packets have unmet dependencies build essential depends g++
[04:54] <meheren> libstdc++6-4.0-dev depends g++-4.0
[04:54] <meheren> try apt-get -f install
[04:54] <Evil_Whisper> ok hold on
[04:54] <LeaChim> yeh, merry christmas to you too rinzai-shu :P
[04:55] <meheren> i did apt-get -f install and it says
[04:55] <rinzai-shu> new colonel sanders installed!  time to go get a bucket of chicken!
[04:55] <meheren> dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 3860 g++-4.0 missing file
[04:55] <Evil_Whisper> try sudo apt-get remove --purge g++-4.0 && sudo apt-get install g++-4.0
[04:56] <meheren> ok
[04:56] <Determinist> any idea where i can find good documentation that explains the whole bootup process of debian based linux distros?
[04:57] <meheren> evil_whisper:it says g++-4.0 is not installed so not remove
[04:58] <meheren> so i tryed sudo apt-get install g++ and it says dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 3860 g++-4.0 missing file
[04:58] <meheren> lol
[04:58] <LeaChim> Determinist, it can vary. generally it will either boot the kernel which loads the stuff in /etc/rcx.d - where x is specified in /etc/inititab - or it boots kernel with an initrd img, which then loads the rest afterwards from rcx.d
[04:59] <Evil_Whisper> meheren try g++-4.0 instead of just g++
[04:59] <meheren> i did
[04:59] <Determinist> LeaChim, which method is used in ubuntu?
[04:59] <meheren> (i just forgot to type it into gaim)
[04:59] <Evil_Whisper> wow meheren lol :-|
[04:59] <LeaChim> Determinist, i think it generally uses an initrd
[05:00] <Evil_Whisper> uhm
[05:00] <GMachine_24> I feel like a goof for having to ask this but . . . I added a second hard drive and put a line command in a file so the second drive would be mounted automatically on boot . . . now I had to remove the drive but I can't remember which file I edited... I thought it would be fstab but I can't find fstab ... at least not under /etc
[05:00] <human_error> how do I get disable flow control (^S) in the terminal?
[05:00] <Evil_Whisper> sudo dpkg-reconfigure g++-4.0?
[05:00] <lowman62> i am having trouble mount a usb jumpdrive does anyone know how?
[05:00] <Evil_Whisper> would that do anything?
[05:00] <meheren> dunno ill try
[05:00] <meheren> by the way thx for helping
[05:01] <Evil_Whisper> no problem
[05:01] <cached> wow a friend of mine thinks hes a hacker because he managed to run a virus i made on his sister's computer
[05:01] <Evil_Whisper> I've pretty much run out of ideas I think i'll do some googling
[05:01] <cached> the virus was just for messing around, though
[05:01] <GMachine_24> cached: scary
[05:01] <human_error> i can do it with stty but how do i do it for all terminals?
[05:01] <meheren> it says command not found?
[05:01] <LeaChim> lowman62, trouble how?
[05:01] <Determinist> LeaChim, so the entire purpose of the initrd image is to load up the contents of /etc/rcX.d. so it just runs all the scripts inside that dir, right?
[05:01] <Evil_Whisper> ok meheren I'm gonna do some google searching for you
[05:01] <meheren> lol
[05:02] <lowman62> it doesn't appear to show up
[05:02] <meheren> i tyed with no luck
[05:02] <meheren> *tryed
[05:02] <lowman62> and if it does i have no clue how to access it :P
[05:02] <GMachine_24> which file do I edit to have a second hard drive mounted automatically when the computer boots please?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> meheren,  try g++ -version
[05:02] <Determinist> cached, useless. spend your time doing more productive things mate.
[05:02] <gnomefreak> what is the output?
[05:02] <LeaChim> Determinist, no, the initrd is an image on the boot filesystem, which the kernel knows how to load - say you have the main root filesystem on nfs, and the kernel only has a module for nfs - if it tried to boot straight off the module is need to get the module :P so the initrd has all the modules to let it get the filesystem
[05:02] <meheren> ok
[05:02] <lowman62> LeaChim: it doesn't appear to show up
[05:03] <LeaChim> GMachine_24, it would generally be /etc/fstab. and you should always have an /etc/fstab
[05:03] <meheren> bash:g++ command not found
[05:03] <lowman62> LeaChim: and if it does i have no clue how to access it :P
[05:03] <gnomefreak> sorry its g++ --version
[05:03] <LeaChim> GMachine_24, otherwise go to /etc - and do grep -i /devnameofhd -R *
[05:03] <meheren> ok
[05:03] <meheren> np
[05:03] <LeaChim> lowman62, mine appears in /media/whatevernameithas
[05:03] <Evil_Whisper> meheren, try this link http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-recover-status
[05:03] <gnomefreak> with 2- instead of 1 :(
[05:03] <Determinist> LeaChim, i see, thanks
[05:03] <GMachine_24> Lea: That's what I thought but I can't find the fstab file. ok thanks Lea.
[05:03] <Evil_Whisper> hi gnomefreak
[05:03] <meheren> bahs: g++ command not found
[05:03] <gnomefreak> hi Evil_Whisper
[05:04] <diner> Hey guys
[05:04] <LeaChim> lowman62, can you do ls /dev/sd* and msg me the output
[05:04] <Evil_Whisper> meheren, http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-recover-status
[05:04] <meheren> ok
[05:04] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  i dont think he has g++ installed :(
[05:04] <cached> i was doing a proof of concept to him that viruses can run on macs
[05:04] <lowman62> okay one sec LeaChim
[05:04] <meheren> thx im already going there
[05:04] <diner> I'm using Ubuntu Live! and I want to configure cupsd via http://localhost:631/admin
[05:04] <cached> o_O
[05:04] <cached> diner: you realize you will have to reconfigure it each time?
[05:05] <caonex> why the 3c905 is not supported in breezy?
[05:05] <diner> aha
[05:05] <Determinist> cached, alright.
[05:05] <trappist> caonex: it is
[05:05] <Evil_Whisper> yay xcompmgr isnt leaking so far =P
[05:05] <martianpenguin> I'm having a problem with my touchpad on my laptop with the 2.6.15 kernel.  Has anyone experienced a similar problem or would be able to help with mine?
[05:05] <diner> how do I change the password of http://localhost:631/admin ?
[05:05] <cached> diner: that's all I can tell you, I have no experience with CUPS
[05:05] <Evil_Whisper> diner let me check for you real fast I remeber it being on the forums
[05:06] <GMachine_24> Lea: Thanks. The fstab file was there - I just had to access it via the command line. Doh.
[05:06] <diner> cool
[05:06] <caonex> trappist, it is weird then because i cant configure it
[05:06] <lowman62> LeaChim: how do I send you this output ?? LOL :P
[05:06] <GMachine_24> Thanks for your help.
[05:06] <caonex> trappist, i had hoary and it was detected
[05:06] <gnomefreak> meheren,  you dont have g++ installed?
[05:06] <LeaChim> lowman62, type /dialog LeaChim
[05:06] <cached> wow
[05:06] <LeaChim> and it'll open a window
[05:06] <caonex> trappist, i did a clean install and now is not present in network configuration
[05:07] <Evil_Whisper> diner, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48286&highlight=Change+cups+password
[05:07] <cached> this will be the eight time I attempt to install coldfusion today
[05:07] <caonex> trappist, my other card is there, but not the 3c905 one as was in hoary
[05:07] <caonex> trappist, any ideas?
[05:07] <Evil_Whisper> that will fix your cups passwd issue :-)
[05:07] <pashaw> lowman62,   use pastebin
[05:07] <Evil_Whisper> any luck meheren ?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lol Evil_Whisper  its kinda cool your running and googling for everyone but the bot can do most of it for us lol
[05:07] <pashaw> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:07] <gnomefreak> !g++
[05:07] <trappist> caonex: I generally do network configuration on the command line, and I use kde.  I'm not familiar with gnome's interface.
[05:08] <cached> why do people use CFML rather than PHP?
[05:08] <caonex> trappist, ok i do it in the command line as well
[05:08] <meheren> nope :(
[05:08] <caonex> trappist, my other card took eth1, leaving eth0
[05:08] <[A] ndy80> hi
[05:08] <caonex> trappist, i did ifup eth0 and it says unknown interface
[05:08] <gnomefreak> meheren,  are you trying to install g++?
[05:08] <diner> Evil_Whisper>thanks, I'll check it out
[05:08] <caonex> trappist, i also did ifconfig eth0 <ip> and still said the same
[05:08] <[A] ndy80> can I use this Kubuntu repository "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" in Ubuntu too?
[05:09] <trappist> caonex: sudo modprobe 3c509
[05:09] <meheren> yes
[05:09] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, yes
[05:09] <meheren> it is corrupt
[05:09] <martianpenguin> is there a separate channel for development stuff like dapper?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> During boot-up I get a message saying Bastille-firewall is not configured yet, please create somethingsomething.cfg (Hint: Use InteractiveBastille).  However, I don't even want bastille on the system, and thought I removed the package.  What's up?
[05:09] <Evil_Whisper> gnome freak his /var/lib/dpkg/status is corrupted
[05:09] <[A] ndy80> thanks
[05:09] <gnomefreak> meheren, what version do you want/need?
[05:09] <meheren> any
[05:09] <meheren> most reacen t or oldest i don't care!
[05:09] <gnomefreak> meheren,  have you tried sudo apt-get install g++?
[05:09] <meheren> yep
[05:10] <gnomefreak> what was the output?
[05:10] <Evil_Whisper> meheren,  run through the 6.3.4 section of that link i gave you.
[05:10] <meheren> and sudo apt-get install g++-4.0
[05:10] <meheren> uh jsut a sec
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Alternatively, how can I remove all traces of bastille, even what may have been left after apt-get remove bastille?
[05:10] <meheren> the following packets have unmet dependencie
[05:10] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, apt-get remove --purge i think
[05:10] <meheren> sg++ depends g++-4.0
[05:10] <caonex> trappist, the module loaded fine let me check if i can configure it
[05:11] <gnomefreak> meheren, does it say what packages it is missing?
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Followed by a package name or just like that?
[05:11] <meheren> libstdc++6-4.0-dev depends g++-4.0
[05:11] <meheren> no
[05:11] <gnomefreak> tony sudo apt-get remove --purge <pacckagename>
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Thanks, will try that.
[05:11] <meheren> just how i wrote it
[05:12] <gnomefreak> meheren,  either sudo apt-get install those or search for them in synaptic
[05:12] <meheren> i've tried
[05:12] <meheren> no luck
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Says package is not installed, so not removed.
[05:12] <Dattas> how do i make ubuntu start up in text only mode? i don't need or want the gui
[05:12] <meheren> even tryed completleing removing everything that had to do with g++ woudl not let me
[05:12] <gnomefreak> meheren, no luck finding them ot no luck installing them?
[05:12] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, but you did already delete the package?
[05:12] <meheren> said the packages weren there
[05:12] <caonex> trappist, i did ifup eth0 and still says unknown
[05:12] <meheren> i find them fine
[05:12] <meheren> install is an issue
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x: I had thought so, but there must be something left from it.
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x and gnomefreak: Searching now, and finding things related to it...
[05:13] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, i think apt-get clean will clean any temp files it made/used but not sure if you need perameters
[05:13] <Lacerta> Hello, I need to switch my HD from slave to master but the system wouldn't start anymore. It printed some error about loading modules. How can i do this?
[05:14] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, i have the same problem, just deleted superkaramba but i saw there are still weatherdocks files on my desktop even after uninstalling :s
[05:14] <gnomefreak> meheren,  did you try to install them through synaptic?
[05:14] <trappist> caonex: does lspci show the device?
[05:14] <meheren> yes!
[05:14] <meheren> and aptitude
[05:14] <meheren> and kget
[05:14] <meheren> and kpackage
[05:15] <human_error> how do I disable xon/xoff in all x terminals? i can only do it individually using stty.
[05:15] <meheren> and manually with ./configure make make install
[05:15] <Dattas> how do you make ubuntu start up in text only mode?
[05:15] <caonex> trappist, yes let me paste the line
[05:15] <gnomefreak> !info build-essential
[05:15] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[05:15] <caonex> trappist, 0000:00:05.0 9050: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]  (rev bf)
[05:15] <Evil_Whisper> meheren, you need to regenerate your one file thing
[05:15] <trappist> Dattas: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[05:15] <meheren> dattas: when bootup it will say starting grub hit esc. then chos recover mode
[05:15] <Evil_Whisper> from the link i gave you
[05:15] <meheren> how would i do that?
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>      # ls /usr/share/doc | \
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>        grep -v [A-Z]  | \
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>        grep -v '^texmf$' | \
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>        grep -v '^debian$' | \
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>        awk '{print $1 " install"}' | \
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>        dpkg --set-selections
[05:16] <Evil_Whisper>      # dselect --expert # reinstall system, de-select as needed
[05:16] <Sh4d0x> *trying to install wifi
[05:16] <meheren> whowa!
[05:16] <meheren> ok
[05:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x and gnomefreak: /etc/init.d/bastille-firewall, /etc/rc0.d/K89bastille-firewall, /etc/rc6.d/K89bastille-firewall, /etc/rcS.d/S40bastille-firewall, /etc/Bastille/, /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall-early.sh, /var/lib/dpkg/info/bastille.list, /var/lib/dpkg/info/bastille.postrm, /var/log/Bastille/, /usr/share/Bastille/ all still exist on the system.
[05:16] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso o_O
[05:16] <trappist> caonex: oh, I thought you said 3c509
[05:17] <caonex> trappist, you have that card?
[05:17] <caonex> trappist, oh ok
[05:17] <gnomefreak> bastille is a firewall app i take it?
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Correct.
[05:17] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, did you check synaptic? mayB there is stille something
[05:17] <caonex> trappist, it was detected by hoary though
[05:17] <Evil_Whisper> meheren, that was a quote from the page =P
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x, Doing that now.
[05:17] <trappist> caonex: yeah, it's supported, I just don't know the driver name off the top of my head
[05:17] <Sh4d0x> gnome_freak, seems so yes :D
[05:17] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  did you happen to try sudo apt-get remove --purge bastille-firewall?
[05:17] <Evil_Whisper> meheren, first before you do that try checking /var/backups for dpkg.status.*.
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x, Synaptico shows it as not installed.
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Will try that.
[05:18] <trappist> caonex: it's a pci card?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  its not but the dependants may be still installed
[05:19] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreakl: that doesn't work, have tried it myself. if you have already delete the package it sais "package is not installed could not remove"
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Couldn't find package for that.
[05:19] <caonex> trappist, yes it is
[05:19] <gnomefreak> im also not sure if it will purge when you reboot i dont use firewall apps
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, How do I check dependencies?
[05:19] <Evil_Whisper> why not use firestarter tonyyarusso ?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, I thought I'd try it, and then decided I didn't need to.
[05:20] <meheren> versaily
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, I may.  If I think I need anything at all.
[05:20] <caonex> trappist but why hoary loaded it from installation and breezy didnt
[05:20] <bipolar> Is dapper ready for a power user such as myself to use daily?
[05:20] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, what happen when you type <packagename> in a terminal?
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x, Command not found.
[05:20] <trappist> caonex: don't know
[05:20] <Evil_Whisper> bipolar, I broke my breezy install when I tried to dist-upgrade I'd give it a little more time
[05:21] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, so the package is uninstalled, else it would run the program
[05:21] <martianpenguin> bipolar, I'm hving a problem with the kernel for a laptop touchpad
[05:21] <meheren> evil_freak i did that... nothing happened
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x and gnomefreak: What would it do to me if I just deleted the files listed above?  How bad of a conniption would it throw?
[05:21] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, only strange it left some files :s
[05:21] <meheren> or it did not give any terminal output
[05:21] <Evil_Whisper> evil_freak?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  kernel has firewall intact the iptable settings should be fine for most people firestarter and others are just a way to change settings
[05:21] <trappist> caonex: I'm peeking at the kernel source to see if I can find the driver
[05:21] <meheren> sry
[05:21] <Evil_Whisper> lool
[05:21] <meheren> evil_whisper:lol
[05:21] <bipolar> Evil_Whisper, martianpenguin, ok, I'll give it another week :)
[05:22] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, don't know actually, depends on where and what other programes make use of the files
[05:22] <Evil_Whisper> check /var/backups/ for a dpkg.status.*. file
[05:22] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, not sure cause im not real sure if deleting them will screw with the firewall built into kernel
[05:22] <trappist> caonex: it's 3c59x
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x, Those all seem pretty specific, I doubt anything else does.
[05:22] <simpletron> hi
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Hi simpletron.
[05:22] <kinkoblast> kvirc is TEH SUCKS
[05:22] <rinzai-shu> don't ever try to change my fancy motd again, Ubuntu!
[05:22] <cached> woohoo i got coldfusion runing :)
[05:22] <simpletron> im a debian user for 4 years and a gentoo user for 2 years
[05:23] <simpletron> now im trying ubuntu and is great
[05:23] <Evil_Whisper> cached, nice :-)
[05:23] <cached> i wonder if php and coldfusiuon play nice together
[05:23] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, hmm in that case you could try
[05:23] <meheren> oh well
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Good to hear simpletron.
[05:23] <plagerism> is this normal for cups?  tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[05:23] <plagerism> Should it not just be listening on the local host??
[05:23] <meheren> i give up
[05:23] <aTypical> I'm trying to play supertux, but am getting a 3inch black border when trying to enter fullscreen mode.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:23] <caonex> trappist, eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1b400, 00:11:09:61:83:73, IRQ 23. is the one not detected
[05:23] <caonex> trappist, i though it was the 3com
[05:23] <Evil_Whisper> plagerism, i think its fine
[05:24] <gnomefreak> tony have you tried to open those files and see if anything is in them?
[05:24] <caonex> trappist, that is even more weird
[05:24] <trappist> caonex: haha.
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Will do that.
[05:24] <plagerism> Evil_Whisper, Okay I just wanted to hear a few more people say it
[05:24] <meheren> (is there a way to reinstall the os)? without deleting anything and reinstalling it into same dir as current?
[05:24] <cached> wow
[05:24] <caonex> trappist, via has never had any problems to me
[05:24] <cached> what the?
[05:24] <caonex> trappist, do you happen to know the module name?
[05:24] <plagerism> Evil_Whisper, my box was compromised the other day, and I am just checking everything thoroughly
[05:24] <meheren> basically is there a way to reinstall the os like a mac reinstal of os???
[05:25] <cached> how did I download debian in under 30 seconds?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, What do you know?  The first one I opened has the dialogue for boot that I've been seeing.
[05:25] <trappist> caonex: via-rhine
[05:25] <meheren> you downloaded the netboot probally
[05:25] <Evil_Whisper> plagerism,  what command did you use to check cups?
[05:25] <Sh4d0x> has some one tried suse? can some tell me the differences between suse and ubuntu?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  thats what i was afraid of :( it looks like other things are depending on that now that you installed it
[05:25] <Evil_Whisper> Sh4d0x suse uses KDE instead of gnome, and it has Yast and stuff
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, /etc/init.d/bastille-firewall that is.
[05:25] <martianpenguin> Sh4d0x, what kind of differencess?
[05:25] <caonex> trappist, it is so weird because lspci recognizes it and i think that module is loaded
[05:26] <Evil_Whisper> Sh4d0x, also suse uses RPM's
[05:26] <martianpenguin> Sh4d0x, mainly the package manager
[05:26] <plagerism> Evil_Whisper: netstat -ltun
[05:26] <trappist> caonex: lsmod | grep rhine
[05:26] <dingo001> hi all, is there a way that i can access my home computer from a remote location. i am on charter so they do not give me a permanent ip address
[05:26] <Sh4d0x> and graphical? is it nicer, what about takstbars etc ...
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, How does that mean other things depend on it?
[05:26] <caonex> trappist, via_rhine              20356  0
[05:26] <caonex> mii                     5248  2 via_rhine,3c59x
[05:26] <rinzai-shu> Sh4d0x: SuSE is basically weird German design, now owned by the evil corporate fogeys in Utah known as "Novell" -that is the major difference. ;-)
[05:26] <meheren> is there a way to reinstall the os like a mac reinstals it's os???
[05:26] <Evil_Whisper> Sh4d0x, you can run into RPM hell with suse
[05:26] <martianpenguin> Sh4d0x, you can install any themes you want on any distro... that's not distro relevant really
[05:27] <Evil_Whisper> plagerism, I don't even have cups listed on mine when i do netstat -ltun
[05:27] <utta> dingo001: try openvpn
[05:27] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, if the code is a boot code wouldnt that mean or atleast infer that if you delete that grub "may not" work?
[05:27] <Coldwinter> hello
[05:27] <Sh4d0x> so it actually is the same as ubuntu but with kde environment?
[05:27] <meheren> no
[05:28] <dingo001> utta: will do
[05:28] <meheren> ubuntu has kde 2
[05:28] <caonex> trappist, see, the module is loaded
[05:28] <meheren> if you wanna install
[05:28] <Evil_Whisper> Sh4d0x,  no
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, No idea.  Could I delete the referring line from something else?
[05:28] <meheren> suse has better bootsplash capabilities though
[05:28] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x, suse is nothing remotely close to ubuntu
[05:28] <cookie> selam
[05:28] <martianpenguin> suse is probably sloser to redhat
[05:28] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah
[05:29] <Coldwinter> im new to this... and i missed out on what the default root password is on ubuntu...
[05:29] <meheren> red hat is suse more or less
[05:29] <DarkFame> why are you discussing this?
[05:29] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  Do you still have sym links to it (bastille-firewall) in the various runlevel dirs?  If so, it will continue trying to start on bootup.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> meheren,  ubuntu has some really nice splash screens :)
[05:29] <Evil_Whisper> Coldwinter,  there is no root on Ubuntu by default
[05:29] <dingo001> utta: could i host a webserver on my home machine?
[05:29] <martianpenguin> Coldwinter, use the same password as your first user
[05:29] <rinzai-shu> !tell Coldwinter about RootSudo
[05:29] <meheren> hwo do i install them then!!?
[05:29] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, Evil_Whisper, but what makes it so different? is it better than ubuntu?
[05:29] <Evil_Whisper> gnomefreak, isn't there somthing alled upower or somthing?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> im not really sure tonyyarusso
[05:29] <DRK13> lol  Hi internets
[05:29] <meheren> coldwinter, if you want to access root use sudo
[05:29] <chapium> wtf, my sound is freaking out
[05:29] <Coldwinter> k
[05:29] <meheren> if you wanna work in root use sudo -i
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: I have no idea.  I don't really understand sym links yet.  How can I check?
[05:30] <meheren> chapium turn it down
[05:30] <martianpenguin> what's the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s then?
[05:30] <meheren> it does that 2 m if it is 2 high
[05:30] <meheren> never heard of sudo -s
[05:30] <pashaw> Sh4d0x,   why don't you  try them both
[05:30] <chapium> meheren, gnome's sound server just totally freaked out
[05:30] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x, to start the commands differ in the sense it doesnt use apt different packages/versions it uses .RPM not .DEB
[05:30] <Evil_Whisper> martianpenguin, -s = change to root user
[05:30] <meheren> yes i know!
[05:30] <Evil_Whisper> -s = same as su
[05:30] <meheren> i have that proballem when my volume is 2 high!
[05:30] <martianpenguin> Evil_Whisper, but that's what -i does too...
[05:30] <meheren> ah
[05:31] <gnomefreak> sudo -i changes you to root
[05:31] <Sh4d0x> pashaw, euhm i already got 3 os on my notebook :) a 4th would be a little to much
[05:31] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  "ls /etc/rc2.d | grep firewall" should find it if there is.
[05:31] <meheren> what is different between root user and root???
[05:31] <pashaw> Sh4d0x,  they are too different animals   both Linux  but with different goals
[05:32] <martianpenguin> i second that question...
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: No results.
[05:32] <gnomefreak> meheren,  root is root no matter how you look at it but sudo is not root
[05:32] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  What runlevel do you boot to?
[05:32] <rinzai-shu> sudo -i and sudo -s do two distinctly different things which may only appear the same to the uninitiated.  man sudo
[05:32] <pussfeller> sudo is a hack to run as root, while not being root
[05:32] <martianpenguin> why do they make this so difficult for people that are used to having a root user?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Whatever's default?
[05:32] <meheren> ah
[05:32] <pussfeller> aloowing administrative commands from regular users
[05:32] <meheren> so sudo -s makes you root
[05:33] <meheren> sudo -i lets you run as root while not being it?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> sudo -s i heard was unsafe to use sudo -i
[05:33] <Sh4d0x> pashaw, i'll think i'll shipit a suse version than i'll find out :D (only it take a month before the cd's arrive :( )
[05:33] <Evil_Whisper> brb switching irc clients
[05:33] <pussfeller> if you give root a password, then you can log in as root like you are accustomed too
[05:33] <pashaw> martianpenguin,   its clever actually  Ubuntu is aimed at home users  which if given the chance might run as root all the time making a mess
[05:33] <kotton> sorry people but I am having a heck of a time installing a "tar.bz2 package, I obviosly have not hit on the right command.  tar is  nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2  HELP!!!
[05:33] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  Ok, so probably 2.  In that case, check in /etc/rcS.d for a symlink.
[05:33] <meheren> ok i understand now! thx lol
[05:34] <The_Cyrus> Would anyone know how I can get passed a Debootstrap error with return value 1 during installation of Ubuntu Breezy on an x86?
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Got one.
[05:34] <pussfeller> but ubuntu doesnt enable that by default, since they want to keep regular users from being root all the time and messing up there boxes thru ignorance or error
[05:34] <gnomefreak> kotton,  did you get it untared yet?
[05:34] <d4rksh4de> Hi.
[05:34] <martianpenguin> kotton, tar -jxvf name
[05:34] <kotton> uh well maybe not
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: S40bastille-firewall
[05:34] <martianpenguin> kotton, did you run that?
[05:34] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  Actually, just do, "sudo update-rc.d -f bastille-firewall remove" then.
[05:34] <CoronaLVR> hi guys, I have a problem and here and I am asking for your help, I just installed flight 2 and trying to dist-upgrade but it fails on locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb
[05:34] <pussfeller> tar.bz or gz is a zipped archive
[05:34] <pussfeller> more or less
[05:34] <d4rksh4de> anyone knows a good mp3 player program?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> kotton, martianpenguin  is right just make sure you cd to where it is
[05:34] <kotton> Martian: no I didn't but will now
[05:34] <gnomefreak> first
[05:34] <pashaw> Sh4d0x,   you should check out distrowatch   for reviews/comments on each distro
[05:35] <Evil_Whisper> thats better =P
[05:35] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  After doing that, check again and it should be gone...
[05:35] <kotton> ok brb
[05:35] <pussfeller> d4rksh4de: amarok
[05:35] <Evil_Whisper> chatzilla =P
[05:35] <d4rksh4de> pussfeller, ok
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Yep.  Now can I get rid of those files?
[05:35] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, or xmms
[05:36] <arod_> I can't install this firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=44&application=firefox
[05:36] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  You can get rid of the startup script for it in /etc/init.d/, and any config files associated with it, maybe in /etc/default, perhaps.
[05:36] <d4rksh4de> pussfeller, can't find in synaptic
[05:36] <arod_> could someone give it a try?
[05:36] <The_Cyrus> Would anyone know how I can get passed a Debootstrap error with return value 1 during installation of Ubuntu Breezy on an x86?
[05:37] <kotton> Martian: it is decompressed now, don't know where but it is.  so what command can I use now to install
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Did you see my list of files that are left earlier?
[05:37] <simonp> anyone got smb browsing from nautilus working?
[05:37] <Sh4d0x> pashaw: ubuntu i've been given by a friend who orderd the cd's, i tried it wiht live cd and it was soo nice, did installed it (ubuntu) myself a few days ago
[05:37] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  no.
[05:37] <martianpenguin> kotton, it should be in the same folder
[05:37] <pashaw> arod_,    what firefox version do you have installed?
[05:37] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, where to get xmms?
[05:37] <martianpenguin> kotton, you have to cd to the folder
[05:37] <helder> wwwee
[05:37] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, is it in the package manager?
[05:37] <kotton> Martian: it is on my desktop
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Could I copy it again so you can see if there's anything that has to stay?
[05:37] <arod_> pashaw, plain breezy. 1.0.7
[05:38] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, no
[05:38] <pashaw> arod_,   read your link  it requires 1.5
[05:38] <martianpenguin> kotton, wait, which program was this you were installing?
[05:38] <arod_> pashaw, it won't install any version
[05:38] <kotton> nvu
[05:38] <kotton> it is in a folder
[05:38] <arod_> pashaw, I'm using it in sarge
[05:38] <kotton> on desktop
[05:38] <martianpenguin> kotton, right
[05:38] <arod_> pashaw, earlier version doesn't install either
[05:38] <kotton> so now can I "apt-get"?
[05:39] <martianpenguin> kotton, if there was a .deb inside the tarball, yeah
[05:39] <arod_> pashaw, and error says the extension works from 1.0+ to 1.5. so I guess it's supposed to work with 1.0.7
[05:39] <The_Cyrus> i'm guessing no one knows...damn...ok, thanks
[05:39] <kotton> Martian: I will look
[05:39] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  Ok.  I looked at the list you posted earlier...
[05:40] <gnomefreak> kotton, i dont think there is thats what checkinstall does (i think)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> i wanna say it was checkinstall that makes the .deb
[05:40] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  By doing using the update-rc.d tool, you've already removed most of them!  The rest look like config files in /etc.
[05:40] <d4rksh4de> can someone tell me how to get xmms?
[05:40] <d4rksh4de> i have forgotten the command
[05:41] <marsu> d4rksh4de: sudo apt-get install xmms?
[05:41] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, apt-get?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> d4rksh4de, sudo apt-get install xmms or use synaptic
[05:41] <kotton> Martian: no deb but an install file
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Ah.
[05:41] <d4rksh4de> ok thanks
[05:41] <gnomefreak> kotton, the install file will run you through the compiling process
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: So I should be safe?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> "should"
[05:41] <simonp> i'm trying to browse the windows network with nautilus and it doesn't work. It asks for a password (why? windows and macs don't need one), and is never able to connect.
[05:41] <martianpenguin> kotton, you're going to need to do something along the lines of ./configure, make, make install
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Right.
[05:42] <kotton> Matian: and the file name?
[05:42] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  You should be able to safely remove /etc/Bastille directory in it's entirety, yes.
[05:42] <martianpenguin> kotton, however, i don't know what the "accepted correct way of doing it on ubuntu is"
[05:42] <d4rksh4de> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <d4rksh4de> :S
[05:42] <pcuser> hey evreyone
[05:42] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, do you have a package manager open still?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> kotton, before you start make sure you have a few things like build-essential and apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[05:42] <pcuser> does anyone know java
[05:42] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, yes
[05:42] <Iam8up> to become root in ubuntu you use sudo root, correct?
[05:42] <Foodcoman> Morning
[05:42] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, close it
[05:42] <gnomefreak> !java
[05:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:43] <kotton> Martian: I will play with it for a bit, thanks, this is a great room and all are very helpful
[05:43] <Iam8up> !root
[05:43] <Iam8up> fuck you bot
[05:43] <MrRio> Iam8up: just sudo <command you want ot run as root>
[05:43] <Iam8up> really? that gets to be a hassle...
[05:43] <martianpenguin> Iam8up, or sudo -i
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: I still have five, the init.d script, dpkg info, and directories (empty) in /var/log. and /usr/share/.
[05:43] <Iam8up> what's the i mean..?
[05:43] <d4rksh4de> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:43] <Iam8up> assume the identity of root?
[05:43] <martianpenguin> Iam8up, gives you a root prompt
[05:43] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  You can also get rid of /var/log/Bastille/ and /usr/share/Bastille/ too.  That should about do it!
[05:43] <Iam8up> awesome, thanks
[05:43] <gnomefreak> Iam8up, language please and use sudo
[05:44] <martianpenguin> Iam8up, RTFM to know what it means
[05:44] <Iam8up> gnomefreak - language?
[05:44] <rinzai-shu> heyyyy yaaa...heyyy yaaa...
[05:44] <concept10> what is this ugly toolkit that VLC is built upon?
[05:44] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  The one in /etc/init.d/ can go too.  It's the startup script for it.
[05:44] <martianpenguin> Iam8up, "f**k you bot"
[05:44] <gnomefreak> f*uck shouold not normally be said in a family channel
[05:44] <Iam8up> oh, sorry
[05:44] <gnomefreak> read the coc
[05:45] <kotton> Martian: I type apt-get build-dep nvu and it is building even as we speak
[05:45] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, do you have just the basic repositories?
[05:45] <xored> how can i mount a USB driver ?
[05:45] <martianpenguin> kotton, sounds good to me then
[05:46] <xored> drive
[05:46] <gnomefreak> kotton, lol its not building its installing libs you need to build it
[05:46] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, i just have installed ubuntu
[05:46] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, I think you need to enable the extended repositories
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: What about in /var/lib/dpkg/info/?
[05:46] <kotton> gnomefreak: wups well what ever it is doing it is doing it well
[05:46] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, where?
[05:46] <MrRio> i think double-clicking a deb should install it in synaptic
[05:46] <gnomefreak> kotton,  good but you have a while to go
[05:46] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, I know you can go into /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:47] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, thanks
[05:47] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, but there is probably a GUI version of changing it as well
[05:47] <gnomefreak> kotton, when thats done sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:47] <Yv12345vY> hello, i just installed ubuntu on a centrino alienware 1.6ghz 1gb ram 60gb 7200rpm hdd but it runs painfully slow.  i upgraded to the 686 kernel.  the cpu load is 100% and hdd is constantly spinning until i kill any acpi/power related processes.  but even afterwards it still feels sluggish.  any help is appreciated.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> MrRio, Good idea.  Probably with a confirmation button though, to prevent accidents, though.
[05:47] <gnomefreak> kotton, and any other libs the install or readme file tells you you need
[05:47] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, I have the same situation... but it runs fine for me
[05:47] <pashaw> d4rksh4de,    System -> Help -> Starter ->  installing apps (scroll down to Universe/Multiverse)
[05:47] <kotton> Martian: OK
[05:47] <Iam8up> Yv12345vY - have you tried a live linux cd?
[05:47] <MrRio> tonyyarusso: yeah, ill see if i can knock something together in python
[05:48] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, what do you mean?
[05:48] <Iam8up> did you do a fresh install of ubuntu, or did you change all your hardware..?
[05:48] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, I'm on an alienware laptop 1.6 centrino, however mine seems to be running faster than windows was on this before...
[05:48] <Yv12345vY> Iam8up: yes, it was a live cd of suse i think but not of ubuntu and that was slow as well
[05:48] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  No harm done leaving it there.  It's the package manager's job to handle those.  I suspect you could use dpkg to purge it though.
[05:48] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin: interesting, did you do any setup/config on ubuntu??
[05:49] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, nope, took about half an hour to install
[05:49] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, mine took more than 2
[05:49] <kotton> Martian: ran sudo apt-get install build-essential, says already newest version
[05:49] <Yv12345vY> would it be worth just re-installing it again?
[05:49] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, only problem i have is the 2.6.15 kernel has a broken touchpad driver
[05:49] <Iam8up> hmm...i don't know enough about linux to say if it's a software issue
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> QRZ: Looks like it.  I'll try it.
[05:49] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin: i'm running 2.6.12 686
[05:50] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, im running the 386 kernel
[05:50] <martianpenguin> kotton, if it's the newest version, you're good
[05:50] <kotton> Martian, so do I now "apt-get nvu/install?
[05:51] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin interesting
[05:51] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, would it be a good idea to try and reinstall it??
[05:51] <gnomefreak> kotton, apt-get will not work on a .tar
[05:51] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, if you think it's slow, i would try the 386
[05:51] <martianpenguin> yeah
[05:51] <gnomefreak> tar=source not just a app
[05:51] <QRZ> tonyyarusso:  Anyway, you should now be free of it having removed the symlinks and the init script for it.
[05:51] <martianpenguin> kotton, you have to do some stuff with make
[05:51] <kotton> Martian, even if it is unpacked?
[05:51] <kotton> oh ok
[05:52] <gnomefreak> kotton,  read the INSTALL file
[05:52] <martianpenguin> kotton, i just don't know how to turn it into a .deb file first
[05:52] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, i was running the 386, somebody on the forums suggested i go to 686 and it helped a tiny bit but nothing significant
[05:52] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, that seems weird
[05:52] <kotton> Martian, I will read install file
[05:52] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, i'm pulling down the dvd image and i'll try again
[05:52] <Yv12345vY> hell, maybe i'll throw it on my amd64 too
[05:53] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, doesn't it fit on a cd?
[05:53] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin it does
[05:53] <gnomefreak> kotton, after your done reading the file cd into the newly created file than run ./configure --help
[05:53] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, how much ram do you have?
[05:53] <yanis> hello
[05:53] <martianpenguin> yanis, hi
[05:54] <gnomefreak> or for simplicity just run ./configure (but i dont know what type of program this is)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kotton about checkinstall
[05:54] <yanis> why the package of the wmii window manager doesn't exist in the reposator~ies ???
[05:55] <gnomefreak> kotton,  you might want that too
[05:55] <deFrysk>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[05:55] <martianpenguin> yanis, have you enabled the extended repositories?
[05:55] <kotton> ./configure does nothing
[05:55] <yanis> of course martianpenguin
[05:55] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out setting up my wifi connection please?
[05:55] <Sh4d0x> i've tried the wikipage, but without succes
[05:55] <Yv12345vY> martianpenguin, thanks for your help man i'm going to try and do a reinstall
[05:55] <gnomefreak> kotton,  did you cd to the new file yet?
[05:55] <Yv12345vY> i left my disc at school so i have to pull it down again
[05:55] <martianpenguin> Yv12345vY, good luck
[05:55] <Yv12345vY> thansk i'm sure we'll chat again
[05:56] <kotton> yes I am in the new folder nvu-1.0
[05:56] <martianpenguin> yanis, you could check the debian repositories or compile it yourself
[05:56] <gnomefreak> kotton,  ok good now run ./configure --help let me know if stuff comes up
[05:56] <yanis> ok..
[05:56] <martianpenguin> Sh4d0x, what wifi card?
[05:56] <kotton> ok
[05:57] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, if i want xmms player which package i need to download?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> !info nvu
[05:57] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[05:57] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, what are your options?
[05:57] <QaDeS> any idea how to "map" tcp ports on a local machine, so a client can access e.g. the webserver via port 1234 tho it's running on 80?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> kotton,  you didnt need the tar
[05:58] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, should be something starting with xmms-versionnumber-other stuff
[05:58] <QaDeS> hiyas btw :)
[05:58] <kotton> Gnome, geez
[05:58] <gnomefreak> all you had to do was enable universe and than apt-get install nvu
[05:58] <SteveGibbs> kate moss is so f*cking sexy
[05:58] <kotton> universe is enabled will try
[05:59] <tRSS> quick question: In my office, I am the only one using Ubuntu (hence, Linux) and we have to access a website to monitor different incident and close incident tickets. I just can't get the site to work with firefox, any suggestions?
[05:59] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, xmms-alarm, xmms-arts, xmms-blursk, xmms-.....
[05:59] <gnomefreak> kotton, you have a choice you can continue to learn to compile from source or quit while your ahead and enable universe
[05:59] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, there is no just xmms package?
[05:59] <SteveGibbs> transgress i think i know how, msg me
[05:59] <SteveGibbs> tRSS i mean
[05:59] <pashaw> QaDeS,  local would be the webserver config     otherwise you can redirect using a router also
[05:59] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, no
[05:59] <gnomefreak> !info xmms
[05:59] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[06:00] <nikos> hi
[06:00] <kotton> gnome universe is enabled, but I get this kenswanson@ubuntu:/$ sudo apt-get nvu
[06:00] <gnomefreak> xmms is in the repos
[06:00] <kotton> E: Invalid operation nvu
[06:00] <shadox_> and back
[06:00] <tRSS> SteveGibbs: Can you accept the chat
[06:00] <nikos> gibts nen konsole befehl mit dem ich rausfinden kann was ich fr eine soundkarte habe? die geht nmlich irgendwie nich
[06:00] <SteveGibbs> yes i tried to but it didn't work
[06:00] <shadox_> tried to see if wifi works but it does not seems to be :'(
[06:00] <SteveGibbs> join steveg instead
[06:00] <nikos> oh english :)
[06:00] <gnomefreak> kotton,  use synaptic and search for it in there
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> kotton,  may want to learn the basics of apt-get
[06:00] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, did you look in synaptic/
[06:00] <kotton> will double check universe
[06:01] <nikos> is there a command for detecting my soundcard? it doesnt work....
[06:01] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, cuz it should be there
[06:01] <shadox_> martianpenguin: prism nitro 802,11 G
[06:01] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, yes, thats where im looking
[06:01] <nikos> a command that tells me how my soundcard is called
[06:01] <kotton> Dr, I need to learn everything, linux can be quite overwhelming to a newbie I reckon
[06:01] <gnomefreak> d4rksh4de,  its there if your on breezy
[06:01] <gnomefreak> i think hoary too
[06:01] <martianpenguin> d4rksh4de, I see it in mine
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> kotton,  yep. time to get reading. :P
[06:01] <d4rksh4de> gnomefreak, 5.04
[06:01] <gnomefreak> !commands
[06:02] <ubotu> it has been said that commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> kotton,  the ubuntu wiki has some great tutorials/fundamental docs.
[06:02] <d4rksh4de> martianpenguin, a sec i just uncomment some more lines
[06:02] <shadox_> martianpenguim, eth1 is wifi connection but i can't even select it in the "networktool" on the taskbar
[06:02] <gnomefreak> 5.04 should have it to double check go to packages.ubuntu.com and look in hoary for it
[06:02] <kotton> Dr. thank you I have been there many times and lots of other sites
[06:02] <martianpenguin> shadox_, what happens when you do ifconfig/
[06:02] <medication> kotton, i would agree with the good doctor
[06:02] <shadox_> martianpenguim, sec
[06:03] <shadox_> martianpenguim it gives a lot of info about the connections
[06:03] <pashaw> d4rksh4de, ??? its under synaptic   mutimedia  by default
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml   - an 'apt' primer seems decent also.
[06:03] <meepy> Hmm, do I have to open some ports in order to download from bittorrent? I have BitTonado insalled, and im conenected to 4 peers and 4 seeders, but i don't get anything downloaded?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> meepy,  you behind a router? or firewall
[06:04] <meepy> Nope
[06:04] <martianpenguin> shadox_, does it show eth1?
[06:04] <SteveGibbs> meepy u need to enable NAT
[06:04] <shadox_> martianpenguim, should i paste the exact info in pastebin
[06:04] <shadox_> martianpenguim, yes
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> meepy,  it can be slow at times also.. takes patience.
[06:04] <martianpenguin> shadox_, and I assume it doesn;t have an ip
[06:04] <meepy> Been running for 10 min now, Steve? How?
[06:04] <medication> kotton, i would also recommend the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:04] <shadox_> martianpenguim, just a sec, i'll pastebin eth1 msg
[06:05] <martianpenguin> shadox_, k
[06:05] <McScruff> i have vmware installed, and went to add a parrallel port but ubuntu isnt detecting it, is there any reason whythis is
[06:05] <kotton> Medication I have that site bookmarked as well
[06:05] <pashaw> meepy,   test bittorrent  using a common linux distro torrent
[06:05] <meepy> ook
[06:06] <shadox_> martianpenguin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6075
[06:06] <meepy> SteveGibbs, what do you mean by enabling NAT?
[06:06] <medication> i'm still very much the noob... but before I tackled a full install/build I played with the live distros for a while
[06:06] <SteveGibbs> meepy you need to enable your internal ips to map to the external ip if you are behind a router
[06:07] <gnomefreak> i played with ubuntu 6 months atleast before my first attempt at a tar
[06:07] <pashaw> meepy,   if theres a router ahead of your torrent box  make sure you forward the correct ports to the torrent box
[06:07] <meepy> It works great in windows without any tweak? So I guess thats should be affected here?
[06:07] <medication> actually, the live distro made setting up my X windows a lot easier
[06:07] <trappist> medication: if you're using a firewall, yes, you'll need to open some ports
[06:08] <trappist> medication: and you are
[06:08] <martianpenguin> shadox_, what happens when you go to system -> administration -> Networking
[06:08] <gnomefreak> trappist isnt everyone :)
[06:08] <medication> trappist, me?
[06:08] <SteveGibbs> santa baby
[06:08] <trappist> oops
[06:08] <trappist> I mean meepy
[06:08] <SteveGibbs> bum be dum de dum dummmm
[06:08] <trappist> stupid tab complete
[06:08] <pashaw> meepy,   sure as long as your linux box has the same ip as your windows install did
[06:08] <meepy> hmm
[06:08] <meepy> weird
[06:08] <trappist> meepy: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 6881:6889 -j ACCEPT
[06:08] <meepy> I try some other torrents
[06:08] <d4rksh4de> beep-media-player mpalys mp3's?
[06:08] <SteveGibbs> are u all looking forward to xmas?
[06:09] <trappist> meepy: with sudo, of course
[06:09] <meepy> Thanks trappist
[06:09] <meepy> I try
[06:09] <shadox_> martianpenguin, there are 3 types of connections 2 of them i activated (dial up i passed, dont use it)  activated: eth0, eth1
[06:09] <martianpenguin> shadox_, right
[06:09] <dmitry_> Can someone help with firofox on ubuntu?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[06:09] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <martianpenguin> shadox_, do you need to put in a wep key?
[06:09] <SteveGibbs> !mp3
[06:09] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  what version?
[06:10] <shadox_> martianpenguin, no, router is secured by mac adress
[06:10] <dmitry_> 1.0.7
[06:10] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  ask your question/state your issue
[06:10] <speerfishingt> someone here who have installed maple on ubuntu?
[06:10] <martianpenguin> shadox_, does it see the router?
[06:10] <shadox_> martianpenguin, no, that's the problem i guess :(
[06:11] <dmitry_> I am running ubuntu live CD. Firefox times out can't connect to any http server
[06:11] <martianpenguin> shadox_, you may need to change which connection it is looking for if you have multiple wireless aps around or if you have connected to different ones in the past
[06:11] <SteveGibbs> are u all looking forward to xmas?
[06:11] <dmitry_> I have pinged from terminal. Network is ok
[06:11] <SteveGibbs> happy f*ckin xmas every1!!!
[06:11] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  im assuming you have internet connection since you are here?
[06:11] <SteveGibbs> who wants a new computer for xmas then
[06:11] <pashaw> dmitry_,   you can ping yahoo.com
[06:11] <martianpenguin> SteveGibbs, are you offering?
[06:11] <dmitry_> Pinging does work ok.
[06:12] <gnomefreak> or google.com
[06:12] <shadox_> martianpenguin, in windows xp yes, neighbours unsecured wifi (6) but in ubuntu no, i can't even connect to my own router :(
[06:12] <martianpenguin> shadox_, right
[06:12] <gnomefreak> dmitry_, see if you can run it from command line
[06:12] <gnomefreak> see if it will open
[06:12] <HawkShaw> Hello all
[06:12] <dmitry_> I did. My network is up. working fine
[06:13] <martianpenguin> shadox_, when you go into the properties for it
[06:13] <martianpenguin> shadox_, there is a drop down for ESSID
[06:13] <ale_> i love ubuntu
[06:13] <martianpenguin> shadox_, does it list anything there?
[06:13] <speerfishingt> i try to install maple on ubuntu it say "... cannot execute binary file" any ideas? tnx!
[06:13] <pashaw> dmitry_,   trying to be clear    you can ping  yahoo.com   or just ip numbers  big difference
[06:13] <meepy> trappist, dosent seem to work, damnit
[06:13] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  try this type "firefox www.google.com" in term and see if it times out on that one
[06:14] <dmitry_> I can ping both IP numbers and domain names.
[06:14] <dmitry_> ook
[06:14] <gnomefreak> pashaw, i think the homepage its set to cant be opened well atleast ive been having that issue
[06:14] <cookie> ubuntu.tr
[06:14] <rudiz> i have give in a wrong passwrd in Thunderbird...but i cannot change it now
[06:14] <DrTiger> hi! I have a laptop connected via pppoe on eth0, and a free wlan interface on eth1. I want to give another laptop with his wlan card access to my internet connection... what do I have to do?
[06:14] <rudiz> how to fix it
[06:14] <martianpenguin> speerfishingt, does maple support linux?
[06:15] <pashaw> gnomefreak, ohh on the liveCD
[06:15] <gnomefreak> thats atleast my thought
[06:15] <trappist> meepy: could be your firewall is preventing packets from getting out.  do you know what you're using for a firewall?
[06:15] <meepy> Im not using any firewall
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> So here's a silly question: I've always accessed this channel as the default when I run XChat.  How would I tell a friend to get into it using say ChatZilla on Windows?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> i dont play with live cd often :(
[06:15] <HawkShaw> test
[06:16] <dmitry_> typing firefox www.google.com also times out
[06:16] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  /join #ubuntu
[06:16] <gnomefreak> is the command
[06:16] <martianpenguin> tonyyarusso, have him connect to irc.freenode.net
[06:16] <DrTiger> I'd like to turn my ubuntu laptop to a wireless router temporarily... what do I need to do?
[06:16] <martianpenguin> tonyyarusso, then /join #ubuntu
[06:16] <pashaw> gnomefreak, i havent yet   still finding the defaults Ubuntu added     im used to vanilla debian
[06:16] <gnomefreak> yes freenode first
[06:16] <mmarle>  /join #edubuntu
[06:16] <martianpenguin> DrTiger, that might not be easy
[06:17] <DrTiger> I guessed that
[06:17] <DrTiger> but I don't even know where to start
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> Thanks gnomefreak and martianpenguin.
[06:17] <bluefoxicy> GDM needs to start without net.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> yw tonyyarusso
[06:17] <bluefoxicy> GDM starts way after net.
[06:17] <bluefoxicy> aya~
[06:17] <bluefoxicy> oh wait o.o
[06:17] <Evil_Whisper> hello
[06:18] <trappist> meepy: you are.
[06:18] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  i dont use live cd but is there another browser with it?  like type w3m in term
[06:18] <rickest> gnomefreak: links or lynx probably
[06:18] <speerfishingt> any ideas how can i enable a.out support in the ubuntu kernel without making a new kernel by hand?
[06:18] <meepy> trappist, lol, I know I aint. What firewall should I be running? I did a scan on my system with nmap, i only have 1 port open while I use bittornado? :/
[06:19] <Exdaix> Hey guys, I know this is probably asked a million times, but I've been "out of the loop" for a while.  I have Breezy, where can I get the backports server info now that its like gone...
[06:19] <DrTiger> martianpenguin: do you know any keywords that would lead me to some docs?
[06:19] <trappist> meepy: if you want, you can effectively disable it by doing iptables -I INPUT -j ACCEPT and iptables -I OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
[06:19] <dmitry_> yes there is w3m, I have never used it though. let me try
[06:19] <DrTiger> or some ubuntu wiki?
[06:19] <martianpenguin> DrTiger, try connecting adhoc first
[06:19] <DrTiger> what do you mean by adhoc?
[06:19] <trappist> meepy: scanning yourself is not a valid test.  you won't be firewalled from yourself.  I scanned you and found only bittorrent ports unfiltered, and that only after you opened them.
[06:19] <sproingie> is there a way in aptitude to hold a package as not installed?
[06:19] <martianpenguin> like an internal network between just the two laptops
[06:19] <meepy> I removed em again transgress
[06:19] <meepy> trappist,
[06:19] <sproingie> as in, tell it never to install this package?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell DrTiger about wifi
[06:20] <meepy> I removed the IPtables after I could not get it to work
[06:20] <trappist> meepy: removed what?
[06:20] <DrTiger> and  how would I do that than?
[06:20] <trappist> meepy: that's not going to help at all.
[06:20] <meepy> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 6881:6889 -j ACCEPT
[06:20] <sproingie> i can't seem to hold or forbid a not-installed package
[06:20] <meepy> right?
[06:20] <martianpenguin> DrTiger, is the other laptop linux too?
[06:20] <DrTiger> thanks
[06:20] <dmitry_> w3m also has trouble. Gets stuck opening socket.
[06:20] <gnomefreak> DrTiger,  read the pm ubotu sent you see if that helps a bit
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> !tell Exdaix about sources
[06:20] <Evil_Whisper> anyone here use CVS cedega with steam?
[06:20] <trappist> meepy: to allow just bittorrent incoming, yeah.  you may be blocking it on the way out.
[06:20] <DrTiger> the laptop is not here already, but it will probably be windows as my brother doesn't like linux
[06:21] <meepy> Ok, now I did: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 6881:6889 -j ACCEPT
[06:21] <DrTiger> thanks
[06:21] <martianpenguin> well, i have to go, talk to y'all later
[06:21] <Evil_Whisper> hi Sh4d0x
[06:21] <DrTiger> not here yet, I mean
[06:21] <toya_> what's up people, happy holidays
[06:21] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  im not sure than do you have another live-cd? you can try?
[06:21] <Sh4d0x> hi Evil_Whisper
[06:21] <trappist> meepy: on most setups that should work.  if you're blocking outbound bittorrent traffic though, you'll still be out of luck.
[06:22] <meepy> Hmm
[06:22] <gnomefreak> if you can ping www.google.com ok than you should beable to open a browser
[06:22] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, still doing well?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> if you can ping an ip address doesnt mean that network is working ok
[06:22] <meepy> How can I view my IPtables?
[06:22] <toya_> does anyone know how to launch a program from terminal but still let the terminal usable?
[06:22] <trappist> meepy: iptables-save will show you your rules.  iptables -L will show them in a more human-readable format.
[06:22] <dmitry_> You know I had a similar problem long time ago on Fedora. The problem then was that ipv6 DNS was enabled wich messed it up somehow. I don't recall how I disabled it though.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> toya_,  trivial :P bash basics..    try 'command &'
[06:23] <medication> toya_ you can execute from a terminal by using a & after the executable
[06:23] <toya_> Dr_Willis, thx
[06:23] <Evil_Whisper> Anyone here use CVS cedega?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> toya_,  and when closing the term use the 'exit' command - DONT just hit the close button.
[06:23] <trappist> toya_: or hit ctrl-d after you've run it, and type 'bg' to put it into the background
[06:23] <EvilGuru> hi, I have just booted off of the live cd and want to know what I need to do to be able to play mp3's
[06:23] <trappist> !tell EvilGuru about mp3
[06:24] <Evil_Whisper> !win32codecs
[06:24] <ubotu> [win32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:24] <Sh4d0x> Seveas can you help me with my wifi prob?
[06:24] <meepy> trappist: ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpts:6881:6889
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> can you even install stuff on the live cd's ?
[06:24] <meepy> It should be working
[06:24] <concept10> toya_, or open a new tab in the terminal
[06:24] <dmitry_> If I use IP on the URL line, then it does work, BTW
[06:24] <toya_> lol kk thx for the replies
[06:24] <trappist> meepy: yeah that's the rule you made.  I wonder what's happening to outbound packets.
[06:24] <EvilGuru> last time I used ubuntu I only needed to get g-streamer
[06:24] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  that your router ip you are trying?
[06:24] <trappist> meepy: also, the order is important.
[06:24] <Chiletix> join #ubuntu-es
[06:24] <Sh4d0x> EvilGuru, depends on your player :)
[06:24] <dingo001> what is the root pwd for root?
[06:25] <trappist> meepy: you want to pastebin the output of iptables-save?
[06:25] <Evil_Whisper> dingo001, there is no password for root
[06:25] <Sh4d0x> EvilGuru, did you tried beep media player?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> dingo001,  for 'sudo' you use your first users password
[06:25] <gnomefreak> dingo001,  use sudo and the password is ur user name password
[06:25] <EvilGuru> i am on the live cd
[06:25] <Evil_Whisper> dingo001, ubuntu uses sudo instead of root
[06:25] <meepy> ok trappist
[06:25] <dingo001> ok
[06:25] <EvilGuru> and want to test out my sound card
[06:25] <dmitry_> no I can use any host IP on the URL line and it works then
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, I'm told you can install stuff, but it will only go to RAM.  I thought it would be really slick if you could have apt-get install on a Live CD put it on a flash drive.
[06:26] <dingo001> i signed in with my users username and pwd
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  other live cd's can do that :)
[06:26] <Evil_Whisper> Anyone know how often transgaming updates there CVS?
[06:26] <trappist> toya_: linux isn't quite that slick yet.
[06:26] <dmitry_> somehow firefox gets stuck doing the DNS query.
[06:26] <dingo001> and tried to create a directory in the file system, i got access denied
[06:26] <trappist> ack
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  but the ubuntu live cd is alittle more primitive then them :()
[06:26] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  in term type ping www.google.com and paste the output in pastebin please
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> dingo001,  creat one where.
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, Any idea where to suggest ideas like that?
[06:26] <dingo001> so to create a directory in ubuntu, do i have to use sudo
[06:26] <dmitry_> I think it's that ipv6 config issue again. If I can only remember how to disable that
[06:26] <meepy> trappist: http://pastebin.com/476779
[06:26] <Gi0va> hi all
[06:26] <Gi0va> someone italian?
[06:26] <dingo001> dr_willis: on the file system
[06:27] <leagris> Hi all
[06:27] <trappist> Gi0va: try #ubuntu-it
[06:27] <Gi0va> why ubuntu live doesn't look up my hd?
[06:27] <Evil_Whisper> Gi0va, join #ubuntu-it
[06:27] <concept10> trappist, what do you mean by that?
[06:27] <dmitry_> what's a pastebin
[06:27] <dingo001> im trying to install xampp
[06:27] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out with my wifi prob? ubuntu recognizes my card "... managed..." but i can't connect to the router :(
[06:27] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:27] <leagris> Any way I can install Ubuntu server with only a serial ttys0 and no gfx card or should I fallbak to debian for this ?
[06:27] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:27] <Evil_Whisper> Gi0va, you have to mount it first
[06:27] <dingo001> basically just trying to download a file for now :)
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  you mean suggest to the ubuntu team? :P  not sure.. i rarely use the ubuntu live cd.. thers sooo many better ones out for my needs
[06:27] <Evil_Whisper> sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt/
[06:27] <trappist> meepy: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, The Dapper Live CD is going to mount them automatically, right?
[06:27] <toya_> trappist, what do you mean by typing bg after ctr-d ?
[06:27] <trappist> concept10: by what?
[06:28] <toya_> trappist, because after i pressed ctr-d, the terminal tab is gone
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> How to I suggest something to the development team?
[06:28] <trappist> toya_: sorry, I meant ctrl-z
[06:28] <concept10> trappist, not that slick
[06:28] <meepy> trappist, done. now what?
[06:28] <trappist> meepy: now you should be fine
[06:28] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, is daper already released?
[06:28] <DrTiger> martianpenguin: I tried out the wifi Howto but there is no information about turning my wlan card into a router
[06:28] <dingo001> when i open the file system on my machine using file browser, i get no highlighted option for creating directory
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x, No.  Flight 2 of it was as a testing preview, stable is in April.
[06:28] <pussfeller> what makes an iso out of a cd?
[06:28] <Evil_Whisper> Tony do you know where i can get a live CD of dapper flight 2?
[06:28] <dingo001> why does ubuntu have the concept of sudo rather than root access like other distributions?
[06:29] <trappist> concept10: well at first I understood the comment to mean that he wanted to boot a livecd, use apt-get to sort of remaster it on the fly, then put the OS on a flash drive.  we're not that slick yet :)
[06:29] <_fredforfaen> !xfce
[06:29] <ubotu> methinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[06:29] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, ow, good, cus i just orderd a shipit :D
[06:29] <toya_> trappist, hm ok, thx, still not sure what it does, its not in my shortcut list
[06:29] <pussfeller> !iso
[06:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, I saw it before, I'll go get you a link.
[06:29] <_fredforfaen> !rox
[06:29] <ubotu> _fredforfaen: I haven't a clue
[06:29] <_fredforfaen> !desktop
[06:29] <ubotu> _fredforfaen: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:29] <concept10> trappist, oh ;)
[06:29] <Evil_Whisper> Grrr I want wine 0.9.4
[06:29] <trappist> toya_: ctrl-z isn't a wm keyboard shortcut, it's a console thing.  it detaches the running process.
[06:30] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, wine can read .exe doesn't it?
[06:30] <trappist> Sh4d0x: even better, it can execute them
[06:30] <stratovarius> hi all
[06:30] <toya_> trappist, ok thx
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/
[06:30] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, when using wine, is there need to a virusscanner to?
[06:30] <leagris> Currently I run mandrake 10.1 on my home server but removed gfx card and keyboard. I use a serial port terminal whent emergency situation or ssh to connect to it. Any clean way I can isntall breezy via the serial terminal from the install cd or must I have to blug a keyboard + gfx card + scren to do this ?
[06:30] <Evil_Whisper> thanks tony
[06:30] <toya_> does anyone know how come sometimes pdf files act weird on linux?
[06:31] <meepy> trappist, it's working, thanks! What was wrong, and what did you do?
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> how can i burn this but yet allow the CDRW to be erased later? :S
[06:31] <trappist> meepy: you were filtering almost all inbound traffic and almost all outbound traffic.  you might want to find out what kind of firewall you have installed and get rid of it.
[06:31] <stratovarius> amule doesnt want to open fastly and connect to servers. I wanna connect to razorback and he connect me to doindgo or similar server.who can tell me why?
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> flight 2 includes the new gnome and stuff right?
[06:31] <trappist> meepy: and/or replace it.  say, with ipkungfu.
[06:32] <pashaw> pussfeller,   try this  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5639
[06:32] <meepy> trappist, am I still secured?
[06:32] <trappist> meepy: yeah, the only inbound stuff that's allowed (that wasn't allowed before) is bittorrent.  all traffic is allowed out though.
[06:32] <Lukian> boot up numlock status?
[06:32] <rickest> pussfeller: dd can do that
[06:32] <Lukian> ^^ laugh
[06:33] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  go ahead and pate waht you have in pastebin
[06:33] <dmitry_> ok, I typed in the ping output to pastebin. It looks fine to me. Look for pasted by dmitry
[06:33] <meepy> trappist: okay, thanks! :)
[06:33] <pussfeller> cat /dev/hdc > /mnt/images/image1.iso
[06:33] <trappist> np
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, I think so, but only at the stage of development it's in as well; I believe the Ubuntu stable releases are one month after each Gnome stable release.
[06:33] <pussfeller> that simple...
[06:33] <trappist> that can't possibly work
[06:33] <dmitry_> I typed: "
[06:33] <dmitry_> 64 bytes from www.google.com (72.14.203.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=18.8ms"
[06:33] <trappist> I mean, maybe, but...
[06:34] <pussfeller> thats what linux journal says
[06:34] <dingo001> when i type sudo on the terminal, i get the usage notes... any parameters to pass with sudo?
[06:34] <trappist> meepy: all that will be gone when you reboot though, so you need to see about that firewall
[06:34] <pashaw> pussfeller,   yes  iso file  are not compressed or anything
[06:34] <stratovarius> nobody can help me?
[06:35] <meepy> trappist, hmm, really? I dident think firewall was needed in linux
[06:35] <trappist> pussfeller: if that doesn't work, dd if=/dev/hdc of=/mnt/images/image1.iso
[06:35] <gnomefreak> dmitry_, hmmmmmmm you should have no issues conneting to a server :(
[06:35] <pashaw> stratovarius,   i dont use any mules
[06:35] <gnomefreak> meepy,  your playing with the exsisting firewall
[06:35] <meepy> oh
[06:35] <meepy> ipkungfu?
[06:35] <stratovarius> pashaw what do u use as p2p program?
[06:35] <pussfeller> trappist: i think thats a roundabout way of doing the same thing :)
[06:35] <trappist> meepy: that's a matter of opinion.  linux has a very powerful built-in firewall, and it sure doesn't *hurt* security, so it's fairly popular to run one.
[06:35] <pashaw> stratovarius,   newsgroups
[06:35] <dmitry_> Like I said I have an issue with firefox doing the DNS queries. It does not work. Queries time out
[06:35] <gnomefreak> meepy, iptables is the firewall thats built into kernel
[06:36] <trappist> pussfeller: I'm not sure cat will do it.
[06:36] <stratovarius> newsgroups?
[06:36] <No1Viking> How do I download ans save a sfw from another site?
[06:36] <meepy> gnomefreak, yeah I know - hmm
[06:36] <pussfeller> trappist: it does sound a bit dodgy to me too
[06:36] <pashaw> stratovarius,  yep'
[06:36] <trappist> No1Viking: wtf is a sfw
[06:36] <No1Viking> How do I download and save a sfw from another site?
[06:36] <dmitry_> If I use IP instead of host name on the URL line, then firefox  works.
[06:36] <stratovarius> pashaw: what newsgroups are?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> meepy,  i dont know what ipkungfu is
[06:36] <No1Viking> trappist, flash?
[06:36] <trappist> No1Viking: so you mean swf
[06:37] <No1Viking> trappist, sorry, yes
[06:37] <trappist> No1Viking: if you have the url to the file, wget it.  if not, view source to find it.
[06:37] <dingo001> "sudo -s -H"
[06:37] <meepy> trappist, I just don't understand why it's removed on next reboot? I am NOT running any firewall at all, since I'm new to Linux I don't just install any application, I used "firestarter" from Automatix for a short period, but not anymore, so I don't think that has any effect?
[06:37] <dingo001> this helped
[06:37] <Evil_Whisper> anyone know anything about upower?
[06:37] <Evil_Whisper> !upower
[06:37] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:37] <No1Viking> trappist, gonna try
[06:37] <rickest> pussfeller: http://www.cpqlinux.com/cdrw.html
[06:37] <snowblink> quick question about netgear ADSL wireless routers - can I use one to boost another?
[06:37] <pashaw> stratovarius,   google    how to use newsgroups
[06:37] <trappist> meepy: something got installed by default I guess.  the firewall rules are stored in kernel memory, so they'll be gone when you reboot.
[06:37] <pussfeller> i dont know if mldonkey is still being developed, but it was a decent client for the emule network
[06:37] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out with my wifi prob? :(
[06:38] <gnomefreak> dmitry_,  im nto sure why its timing out
[06:38] <Evil_Whisper> !eyecandy
[06:38] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: Are you smoking crack?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> !tell Sh4d0x  about wifi
[06:38] <Evil_Whisper> lol
[06:38] <Evil_Whisper> lol lol lol
[06:38] <meepy> trappist, so to make a permanemt solution, I need ipkungfu?
[06:38] <Evil_Whisper> gnome freak
[06:38] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, thnQ but i have done that part already :)
[06:38] <Evil_Whisper> do you have a link to the ubuntu eyecandy guide? :S
[06:38] <gnomefreak> eyecandy last i remember is one www.look-gnome.org  art.gnome.org
[06:38] <No1Viking> trappist, worked like a charm!  :)
[06:39] <trappist> meepy: I recommend ipkungfu because I wrote it, but anything that you know about and can therefore configure is going to make your life a lot easier than one you don't even know you have installed
[06:39] <dmitry_> I found it. I had to set "alias ipv6 off" in modprobe.conf
[06:39] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, can't connect to my router that's the prob :( but i don't know the solution
[06:39] <pussfeller> i thot look-gnome went down
[06:39] <d4rksh4de> whats the webpage where i can find information how to set up package manager? (god damn i just want to play some mp3's)
[06:39] <pussfeller> maybe i am confusing things
[06:39] <trappist> !tell d4rksh4de about repos
[06:39] <trappist> !tell d4rksh4de about mp3
[06:39] <dmitry_> Is there an equivalent on ubuntu (to modprobe.conf)?
[06:40] <meepy> trappist, i'm almost 100% sure I don't have a firewall running, there is nothing in the "System overviewer" on what procresses is running
[06:40] <trappist> dmitry_: see the files in /etc/modprobe.d
[06:40] <pashaw> http://www.gnome-look.org
[06:40] <Sh4d0x> d4arksh4de, have you tried beep media player?
[06:40] <coder_> i need access to a shared folder on my network, sitting on the small business server.  I can open the folder through the gnome-panel, but cannot mount the drive as read & write
[06:40] <trappist> meepy: I am exactly 100% sure that you do.  the firewall rules you pasted didn't write themselves.
[06:40] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, yes
[06:41] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de and did it worked?
[06:41] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, it freezes
[06:41] <trappist> meepy: firewalling happens in the kernel.  there is no corresponding process.  the kernel has rules and just does or doesn't allow a packet through.
[06:41] <pussfeller> i dont think nautilus mounts network drives
[06:41] <meepy> trappist, what do you recommend me to do?
[06:41] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de can you tell me exactly what it does, from the moment you open it?
[06:42] <trappist> meepy: either try to figure out what you have installed and configure it to your needs, or install a firewall that you can work with, and it should override what you have now.
[06:42] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, it starts well, but when i open mp3 file and press play button then it freezes
[06:42] <dmitry_> Yes, I see the aliases. So if I modify it. How can I make it active. I mean if I reboot the live CD the changes will be gone right?
[06:42] <meepy> trappist, i look for ipkungfu
[06:42] <pussfeller> d4rksh4de: if you add the appropriate repos and then update/upgrade, a muliplicity of apps will then be able to play the socalled restricted formats
[06:42] <pashaw> meepy,   you could  save the iptable rule forever   or just make a script that alters the table whenever you plan to use torrent
[06:42] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de did you do the gstreamer part in your terminal?
[06:43] <coder_> i'm trying to `sudo mount //192.168.200.200/Share /media/share`
[06:43] <EvilGuru> why is the wiki https?
[06:43] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, no, whats that?
[06:43] <coder_> "protocol negotiation failed"
[06:43] <pussfeller> dont you have to use smbmount?
[06:43] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de wait i'll get you the wiki link, you'll need it to play mp3's
[06:43] <rickest> coder_: try smbmount
[06:44] <Nekomages> have a bit of trouble installing flgrx drivers, I'm getting a device not fouind when I modprobe it
[06:44] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[06:44] <coder_> "SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it."
[06:44] <Evil_Whisper> !splashy
[06:44] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: Are you on ritalin?
[06:44] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=RealPlayer
[06:44] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, yup
[06:44] <Evil_Whisper> !usplash
[06:44] <ubotu> I guess usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[06:44] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok
[06:45] <meepy> trappist: I was looking for "firestarter" i once installed, and while uninstalling it it gave me this "Stopping the Firestarter firewall:done.
[06:45] <meepy> " so you might be right, i might had it running
[06:45] <zoka> hi people, how to configure repositories, I want to install ruby but there are millions of conflicts, no chance to do it with sypatico
[06:45] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, follow it exactly :) you can't mis, succes
[06:45] <trappist> meepy: awesome
[06:45] <vodnik> hello, I updated kernel with autoupdate and rebooted as suggested, but now grub says that partition cannot be mounted, I tried every entry there was - and ended in windows:-(
[06:46] <trappist> vodnik: is your root device scsi or sata?
[06:46] <XiCillin> vodnik, find where your linux partition is, and where the kernel is on the harddrive
[06:46] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, thanks
[06:46] <Sh4d0x> when i open my mplayer, it gives an error about which sais "font not found" is this normal?
[06:47] <XiCillin> sh4d0x
[06:47] <vodnik> trappisst:scsi i think
[06:47] <XiCillin> install the fonts
[06:47] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de does it work?
[06:47] <trappist> Sh4d0x: try sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[06:47] <pussfeller> coder_: try http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountnetworkfolders
[06:47] <Sh4d0x> trappist ooow :$:$  thnQ
[06:47] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, im working on it...
[06:47] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, let me know if it works :)
[06:48] <adam_> hello everyone. I am having major troubles with my external firewire hard drive. Would anyone mind looking at my dmesg output and seeing if that gives any clues as to what is wrong?
[06:48] <pussfeller> and the preceding entries
[06:48] <vodnik> XiCillin it think it is in hda7 /boot/vmlinuz2.6
[06:48] <coder_> puss: thank you, I have tried that =(  Its failing at "signing"
[06:48] <Sh4d0x> trappist, done, just a sec i'll try if it worked
[06:48] <XiCillin> vodnik post your menu.lst file on pastebin.com
[06:48] <XiCillin> and link me
[06:49] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: There are conflicts against Ruby?
[06:49] <Sh4d0x> trappist, it worked, thnQ
[06:49] <paulproteus|lapt> That's strange.
[06:49] <dmitry_> gnomefreak, how can I reload modprobe.d/aliases without rebooting the live CD, any ideas?
[06:49] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Put your sources.list in a pastebin.
[06:49] <dailyrorschach> anyone using a dell latitude d600 and manage to get good font and screen results
[06:49] <paulproteus|lapt> dmitry_: I think there's an update-* command for that.
[06:49] <vodnik> in a moment...
[06:50] <zoka> people to be honest, ubuntu is very frustrating
[06:50] <dmitry_> which one?
[06:50] <zoka> 1. I cound not install mysql server
[06:50] <zoka> I could not instal apache
[06:51] <adam_> could someone with more knowledge than I look at my dmesg output? I see that it gives some errors but I really dont know what to do about it. And I am having big troubles...
[06:51] <zoka> I could not install ruby
[06:51] <kotton> zoka I know what you mean
[06:51] <zoka> I could not install rails
[06:51] <vodnik> XiCillin http://pastebin.com/476803
[06:51] <zoka> bilions of conflicts
[06:51] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: I'm very confused.  These things work out of the box for me.
[06:51] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Did you change your sources.list to include other sites than ubuntu.com?
[06:51] <Sh4d0x> zoka, sure you tried to install it correctly?
[06:51] <zoka> no
[06:52] <zoka> I did not change anything
[06:52] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Exactly what command did you run to do the install, and exactly what error did you get?
[06:52] <zoka> what repositories I should use
[06:52] <XiCillin> k
[06:52] <zoka> I use sympatico
[06:52] <zoka> go advanced
[06:52] <kotton> when you are a newbie, how do you know what is correctly, all you can do is read what's out there until you fumble onto the right command
[06:52] <Sh4d0x> zoka, guess you should have changed your sources? did you?
[06:52] <zoka> find server click
[06:52] <zoka> reports more dependencies
[06:52] <zoka> click mark
[06:53] <zoka> then it reports not installable
[06:53] <adam_> is anyone reading my cries for help?
[06:53] <infernall> i intalled the kwin-baghira package with synaptic, but the window decorations do not show up.  anyone know how I can add them?
[06:53] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Do you mean Synaptic?
[06:53] <zoka> mysql-server-4.1:
[06:53] <zoka>  Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>=4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[06:53] <zoka>  Depends: mysql-client-4.1 but it is not going to be installed
[06:53] <zoka>  Depends: libdbi-perl  but it is not installable
[06:53] <paulproteus|lapt> I don't know what Sypatico is.
[06:53] <zoka> etc etc
[06:54] <XiCillin> vodnik, i compared it with mine (i just installed the new kernel as well) and everything seems to be as it should
[06:54] <zoka> what ever I try to ad what is not stand alone app
[06:54] <XiCillin> what errors did grub give you?
[06:54] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: You should enable Universe.
[06:54] <zoka> does not work
[06:54] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Run Synaptic.
[06:54] <zoka> how to do it
[06:54] <zoka> OK
[06:54] <zoka> I have it running
[06:54] <vodnik> xcillin well, should not there be some new entries for new kernel?
[06:54] <kotton> paul can you add any site as a repository?
[06:54] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka:  Goto Settings > Repositories you will see (2) grayed out boxes click both of them, then click the Reload button.
[06:54] <dailyrorschach> anyone have any experience with dell laptops and setting resolution and screen parameters
[06:54] <XiCillin> vodnik there are
[06:54] <paulproteus|lapt> kotton: Not quite any.
[06:55] <Sh4d0x> paulproteus|lapt: Universe? multiverse do you mean, or am i wrong? :$
[06:55] <paulproteus|lapt> kotton: That site has to be specially set up.
[06:55] <paulproteus|lapt> Sh4d0x: zoka needs universe for Ruby and MySQL.
[06:55] <paulproteus|lapt> Sh4d0x: Not multiverse.
[06:55] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:55] <XiCillin> vodnik: you've got one for 2.6.12.9 and antoher for 2.6.12.10
[06:55] <zoka> paulproteus|lapt OK
[06:55] <zoka> sec
[06:55] <sysfault> anyone have a Sony Vaio VGN-A790?
[06:55] <adam_> can someone please look at my output from dmesg and see if it tells you anything? I am having big troubles with my external firewire HD and dont know what to do
[06:55] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de have you changed your sources?
[06:55] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, yes
[06:55] <vodnik> XiCillin - yes, oh, i see, i installed just new version og 2.6.12.10, right?
[06:56] <kotton> I have been battling with nvu for about 2 and a half hours and still no luck
[06:56] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de sure you are using the right ones? for the right version?
[06:56] <XiCillin> yea see how there are 4 ubuntu choices?
[06:56] <adam_> whats wrong with nvu?
[06:56] <XiCillin> one for the old kernel and the old kernel recovery mode, and another for the new kernel and that recovery mode
[06:56] <dailyrorschach> d4rksh4de: for what its worth, I dont think you need to say -multiverse just sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:56] <XiCillin> mine looks the same
[06:56] <kotton> Adam I just can't get it to install
[06:56] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, well, i folowed the tutorial
[06:56] <adam_> im a noob, but i had no trouble getting it to install and work
[06:56] <XiCillin> on different parts of the hard drive but nothing looks out of place
[06:56] <XiCillin> what does grub say vodnik?
[06:57] <adam_> sorry if i cant offer help, i just installed it through synaptic
[06:57] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de uhu, but is your sources are wrong guess it won't work neither
[06:57] <zoka> ok people which check boxes?
[06:57] <manveru> someone else has problems with installing gstreamer0.8* ?
[06:57] <adam_> kotton, how did you install?
[06:57] <kotton> nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2
[06:57] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: The ones that represent "universe".
[06:57] <manveru> i cannot install anything now - dpkg is hanging... is there some way to dequeue the gstreamer-stuff?
[06:58] <vodnik> yes, I see it now.. grub says (i do not remember exactly) something like booting kernel vmlinuz ..... failed to mount device.
[06:58] <kotton> Adam that's just it, I can't get it to install
[06:58] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de i installed it a few day's ago, got the same error cus my sources were wrong
[06:58] <adam_> have you tried synaptic?
[06:58] <kotton> Adam I haven't tried synaptic, didn't know how to get it there
[06:58] <vodnik> but i rember now that something similar might have happened to me last time I upgraded kernel, the solution was to change partition type from 82 to 83 or something like that, I am going ot give it a shot...
[06:59] <dailyrorschach> kotton: in synaptic you can visuallay add the other repositories and search for packages
[06:59] <kotton> been messing with apt-get and everything else
[06:59] <dailyrorschach> I still use apt-get, but it makes it easier when things dont seem to go right
[06:59] <adam_> just system>administration>synapic package manager
[06:59] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, other command is working...installing...
[06:59] <adam_> since im a noob, i really go for the gui things
[06:59] <kotton> Daily: doesn't it have to be a special url
[07:00] <dailyrorschach> kotton: no, the wiki has a page that shows you how to do it in synaptic
[07:00] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de which one? the w32codecs?
[07:00] <dailyrorschach> one second
[07:00] <DrTiger> It was quite embarrassing to take my ubuntu laptop to a presentation on wednesday
[07:00] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, how to close program which is not responding?
[07:00] <vodnik> quit
[07:00] <DrTiger> I was not able to make the beamer work with my xserver...
[07:00] <XiCillin> run the command: xkill
[07:00] <XiCillin> and click on what you want to die
[07:00] <kotton> Daily, I'll look at wiki....again
[07:00] <Sh4d0x> d4rsh4de C your processes and quit it there
[07:01] <DrTiger> the image was strangely interlaced or something
[07:01] <Mariukas> hello!
[07:01] <paulproteus|lapt> zoka: Just look for the highlighted lines like this one.
[07:01] <d4rksh4de> XiCillin, thnx
[07:02] <XiCillin> theres a howto on the forums, on binding xkill to a key. i used alt-a
[07:02] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de applications > systemtools> proceses (or something like it, i'am a not that good at translations)
[07:02] <adam_> Everytime I transfer a file from my external firewire drive to my computer it completely crashes the comp. It works fine the other way around though. Would anyone be able to look at the dmesg and tell if something is majorly wrong. I see that there are a few errors, but I dont know what to do.
[07:02] <LOQUiLLO_> hello everyone
[07:02] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, i got it
[07:02] <XiCillin> hey l0quill0_
[07:02] <LOQUiLLO_> hola a todos
[07:02] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, oki :)
[07:02] <paulproteus|lapt> adam_: Post the dmesg into a pastebin and we'll see.
[07:03] <Evil_Whisper> Anyone know wich Mac OS type dock is best for gnome?
[07:03] <DrTiger> I wonder when there will be a good-quality  X Configuration tool for ubuntu!
[07:03] <adam_> sorry, what is a pastebin?
[07:03] <LOQUiLLO_> Happy Merry Christmas
[07:03] <paulproteus|lapt> !pastebin
[07:03] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:03] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, :) thanx i got it working...listening mp3 now :)
[07:03] <cello_rasp> tell me, does the ubuntu DVD carry any of the universe or multiverse repositoriess?
[07:03] <DrTiger> I wonder if there will ever be a powerful X Configurator before X11 is dead.
[07:03] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, yw, enjoy :)
[07:04] <burning_bronx> cello_rasp, the only difference between  the DVD and the CD is that the DVD has the live edition too
[07:04] <cello_rasp> i ask becaus i have a friend with no internet connection but he needs lots of multiverse :\
[07:04] <xagoln> whoops.. just dist-upgraded from breezy -> dapper and having locale issues
[07:04] <cello_rasp> damnnn
[07:04] <dailyrorschach> cello_rasp: you have to add ther repositories, through the gui (synaptic) or CLI
[07:04] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, btw xmms and bmp isnt starting :S
[07:04] <Evil_Whisper> Question
[07:04] <Evil_Whisper> when i try the dapper flight 2 live CD do I have to update anything?
[07:04] <dailyrorschach> cello_rasp: you could send him your source.list file if you have it alreayd set up and tell him how to copy it
[07:04] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de not? hmm
[07:05] <stratovarius> how to unistalla a program installed with wine?
[07:05] <stratovarius> *uninstall
[07:05] <cello_rasp> thx rorschach: are those repos on the cd
[07:05] <burning_bronx> cello_rasp, you could just get the packages if there aren't too much dependencies
[07:05] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, im listening with rythmbox right now
[07:05] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de can you do sudo apt-get update?
[07:05] <Evil_Whisper> stratovarius,  run the uninstall program that comes with it
[07:05] <cello_rasp> i guess i will have to grab them for him.
[07:05] <LOQUiLLO_> ;)
[07:05] <burning_bronx> Sh4d0x, he can obviously do it but he needs files for a friend of his
[07:05] <adam_> OK, I put the dmesg output in a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6078 I think I did it right?
[07:05] <burning_bronx> cello_rasp, you can find packages @ http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, yes...
[07:06] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, try again opening
[07:06] <burning_bronx> just make sure you don't leave dependencies hanging
[07:06] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, still nothing...it just makes 'knot' sound
[07:06] <cello_rasp> thx bronx. yeah, i wissh there was a tool that grabbed all the non cd packages according to dependency
[07:07] <xagoln> I'm going around in circles - apt-get dist-upgrade which craps out followed by apt-get -f install then start again
[07:07] <burning_bronx> xagoln, what's broken?
[07:07] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de aaaah, if you are playing a song in it?
[07:07] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de after the error, can you click *play* button?
[07:08] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, no, these programs isnt starting even
[07:08] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de o_O
[07:08] <xagoln> I did a dist-upgrade to dapper from a working breezy install... on a PC I'm not too worried about
[07:08] <Evil_Whisper> !cdrecord
[07:08] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:08] <burning_bronx> !gnomebaker
[07:08] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, burning_bronx
[07:08] <burning_bronx> hmmm
[07:08] <burning_bronx> !cdburn
[07:08] <xagoln> burning_bronx it died on locales and a few other bits
[07:08] <ubotu> burning_bronx: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:09] <burning_bronx> tisk
[07:09] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de maybe you just need to reboot, if that ain't helping i supose you better uninstall them both and reinstall them
[07:09] <cello_rasp> is dapper near to be stable?
[07:09] <Evil_Whisper> burning_bronx, do you have a link to a tutorial of how to burn a ISO using the CLI?
[07:09] <burning_bronx> cello_rasp, it's getting there
[07:09] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok i try rebooting, brb
[07:09] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de ok
[07:09] <xagoln> cello_rasp it works well enough but I wouldn't use it for anything important
[07:09] <rickest> Evil_Whisper: http://www.cpqlinux.com/cdrw.html
[07:09] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, have you tried "man cdrecord"
[07:09] <Evil_Whisper> thanks rick
[07:09] <burning_bronx> manuals are always good to read first
[07:09] <burning_bronx> >.>
[07:09] <Evil_Whisper> I forgot about man pages lol :S
[07:10] <Parti> hi guys
[07:10] <pussfeller> cdrecord is pretty tricky :)
[07:10] <Evil_Whisper> whats the dev=3,0,0 part
[07:10] <burning_bronx> there's a pretty thick manual on cdrecord
[07:10] <Parti> doolus! I'm back :D
[07:11] <Parti> dooglus.
[07:11] <pussfeller> its taken years to get a decent gui to it
[07:11] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, why don't you use a gui?
[07:11] <burning_bronx> even I have troubles using cdrecord
[07:11] <burning_bronx> as pussfeller it's kinda tricky ;)
[07:12] <burning_bronx> *pussfeller said
[07:12] <adam_> hey, if anyone has any knowledge on fixing problems with extrernal firewire hard drives and wants to check out my pastebin it would be great! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6078
[07:12] <rickest> Evil_Whisper: you can always use k3b and while it's burning, do a 'ps -eo pid,cmd | grep cdrecord' to see what it's *really* doing
[07:12] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[07:13] <pussfeller> yeah k3b is prob the best gui
[07:13] <mz111> Did anyone with an ATI card end up with a horizontal line the a follows the mouse, after installing the ati drivers?
[07:13] <Parti> Yep. K3b is the best!
[07:13] <Evil_Whisper> rick could i just do a cdrecord -scanbus and then cdrecord -v dev=X,X,X img=dapper_flight2.iso?
[07:13] <Sh4d0x> "sit0      no wireless extensions.
[07:13] <Sh4d0x> " :s
[07:13] <kotton> OK who wants to kick me in the bum first. NVU listed in synaptic and installed immediately, shame on me
[07:13] <rickest> Evil_Whisper: I think the correct flag is -data when specifying the ISO
[07:13] <adam_> lol kotton
[07:13] <mz111> k3b rocked, until my burner died yesterday, now k3b is as useful as a rock
[07:14] <kotton> geea
[07:14] <adam_> i really like nvu btw
[07:14] <kotton> been using it for several years under windows
[07:14] <kotton> well since it came out
[07:15] <SAM_theman> yo people
[07:15] <SAM_theman>  i am getting an error in KDe
[07:15] <SAM_theman> my sound an't working but in Gnome it works
[07:15] <burning_bronx> !kubuntu
[07:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:16] <adam_> paulproteus|lapt , you still there?
[07:16] <Parti> Hey guys. I'm trying to resieze my partition. but GTParted and  Gparted keeps telling me that my NTFS paritition (WIndows Xp) is busy or Active
[07:16] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de wb
[07:16] <Evil_Whisper> Yay burning flight 2 live CD right now =)
[07:16] <Parti> I've just put   sudo umount /media/windows/
[07:16] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, still xmms freezed and then it didnt even start, thanks
[07:16] <Parti> and, unmounted it.
[07:16] <Parti> But, it still tell me that it is active
[07:17] <adam_> evil_whisper whats flight?
[07:17] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de can you try to reinstall it?
[07:18] <Parti> :(
[07:18] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok, and do you know where can i set DNS address, so i dont have to specify it all the time i reboot?
[07:18] <Evil_Whisper> ohh anyone here use opera in gnome?
[07:18] <burning_bronx> I
[07:18] <burning_bronx> :)
[07:18] <mz111> Evil_Whisper: I have
[07:18] <burning_bronx> your good mate bronx :P
[07:18] <Evil_Whisper> how do you  make it not ugly?
[07:18] <burning_bronx> using sudo apt-get qt3-qtconfig
[07:18] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de uhu, just a sec, trying to translate menu's
[07:19] <burning_bronx> then when you install it launch qtconfig
[07:19] <Evil_Whisper> wich theme do you use in qt3 config?
[07:19] <burning_bronx> polymer
[07:19] <Evil_Whisper> ok, but when i do that the top menu bar doesn't blend :(
[07:20] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, what do you mean "Doesn't blend?"
[07:20] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, what language are you using :D?
[07:20] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de system > 2e menu like management (or something like it) > network    there you can set the dns
[07:20] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de dutch :D but my english isn't that good :$:(
[07:20] <Evil_Whisper> the top menu bar has a gradient in opera but when I install polymer its just a solid colour
[07:21] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, well, i have estonian
[07:21] <david> hello, I have one HD with Ubuntu and Windows XP. Now I want to format it all. Can I insert the Windows XP directly and format form there?
[07:21] <ggeller> https://launchpad.net/+login says " You are already logged in as George Geller."  But, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences won't let me login or edit any wiki page.  How do you get an account on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[07:21] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de estonian? which country language is that? :$
[07:21] <adam_> Can someone please check out my pastebin and see if it tells you anything? I really cant figure out what is wrong with my external firewire hard drive. It completely crashes my comp every time i try and transfer a file from the external HD to my computer. It works fine the other way around however. And it only happens with large (+500MB or so) files. mutiple small files: no problem. can anyone offer any insight?
[07:22] <ggeller> david: Yes.  Or you can use something like Knoppix to clean off your hd.
[07:22] <adam_> oh, here is the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6078
[07:22] <Evil_Whisper> any clue how to fix that bronx?
[07:22] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, yse, i set there dns but it just disappears when i reboot, estonia - estonian
[07:22] <david> ggeller: but with windows xp install cd is enough?
[07:22] <Nomikos> installing Ubuntu on a mac "aluminum" powerbook, booted from CD, but the installer says it can't find a device driver for the cdrom. help??
[07:22] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, O_O
[07:22] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de have to also tried to set a dns by properties of a connection?
[07:22] <zoka> OK people, univise and repositories are key to solve the problem
[07:23] <ggeller> david: Yes.
[07:23] <burning_bronx> I don't really think that's a problem
[07:23] <zoka> why it is so hidden
[07:23] <david> ggeller: ok. Thank you very much :)
[07:23] <Nomikos> don't have a floppy with extra drivers (nor would it go into this machine..), am given the option to look through /dev, but..
[07:23] <zoka> me, I am user of computers for at least 15 years
[07:23] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, is it written somewhere in file?
[07:23] <Evil_Whisper> burning_bronx, its not really a problem its just annoying. :(
[07:23] <zoka> I could not figure it out
[07:23] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, i think when i edit that file it should work
[07:23] <vini> hey guys, quick question, i cant seem to find the right chmod tags to change the owner of a folder and all of the subfolders. can anyone help? thanks
[07:23] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, what is written in a file?
[07:24] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, DNS addresses
[07:24] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, i'll check it out
[07:24] <Evil_Whisper> can you apt-get on a live CD?
[07:24] <alphy> I need Java and can't get it to work
[07:24] <adam_> is anyone reading what I am typing? I have tried to research my problem. I have tried forums... I have tried reformating my drive.. I really dont know what to do
[07:24] <zoka> sudo chown <code> folder
[07:24] <bluefrog-10> vini, sudo chmod -R user file
[07:24] <vini> thanks
[07:24] <bluefrog-10> vini, sudo chown -R user file
[07:25] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, hmm may you can fill in a location and set the dns to the location
[07:25] <vini> will that change all the subfolders and subfiles too?
[07:25] <burning_bronx> !java
[07:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:25] <burning_bronx> !javadebs
[07:25] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:25] <bluefrog-10> vini, sudo chown -R user folder will do a recursive change
[07:25] <soundray> adam_, checking now.
[07:26] <adam_> soundray thanks!
[07:26] <vini> all set, thanks
[07:27] <soundray> adam_, what do you use as a copy command?
[07:27] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, I have a dns server and domain, they never disappear, wouldn't know a solution to that problem :$
[07:27] <simonx> hello
[07:27] <adam_> i have just been dragging and dropping to the desktop, or to another folder
[07:27] <alphy> yeah, I can't get any of those to work for java
[07:28] <Sh4d0x> d4arksh4de have you tried reinstalling xmms?
[07:28] <soundray> adam_, how much RAM do you have?
[07:28] <adam_> 512
[07:28] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, i put there new location and then DNS, i rebooted and location name was there but DNS address dissapeared
[07:28] <tom3447653632> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:28] <tom3447653632> some one tell me how to use linux i just got it today
[07:28] <adam_> soundray, is:  "sda: asking for cache data failed"  a problem?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> tom3447653632,  google.com  - search for 'linux tutorials'
[07:28] <simonx> what windowmanager do you advise me: i want to set up a desktop that nobody is able to change?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> simonx,  to do what task exactly?
[07:29] <soundray> adam_, it might be. Do you have a swap partition?
[07:29] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de hmm have you also filled in a domain? don't know if that could be the problem but you can try :)
[07:29] <simonx> the shuld only do 3 things ... start open office a web browser and an email programm
[07:29] <soundray> simonx, the keyword to search for is kiosk configuration. There is a KDE kiosk project.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> simonx,  kde has some sort of koisk type features where you can lock down most everything.. not sure if gnome has similer feature.
[07:29] <adam_> soundray, when i installed ubutu, it created a swap on my internal hard drive... if that is what you are asking.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> simonx,  or just set up icewm with 3 icons in the menus.
[07:30] <tom3447653632> who the hell is kde because hs on my msn messenger
[07:30] <simonx> thanks a lot!
[07:30] <soundray> adam_, yes. So you followed the default -- that's fine.
[07:30] <tom3447653632> ?????????????????????
[07:30] <vodnik> Xicillin so it says something like (hd0,6) <newline>local filesystem unknow, partition type 82 <new line> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda7 ro vga=771 single <new line> failed to mount local partition ... and then it goes to grub again
[07:30] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, and also when i rebooted ubuntu froze
[07:30] <soundray> adam_, can we try and copy your file via a terminal command?
[07:31] <tom3447653632> bleh die u linux geeks
[07:31] <tom3447653632> P.o
[07:31] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de o_O
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> 'the care and feeding of trolls'
[07:31] <tom3447653632> O o
[07:31] <tom3447653632> lalalaalalla
[07:31] <tom3447653632> time for smokeperhaps?
[07:31] <adam_> soundray, sure, i will give it a shot. would you mind giving me an example of a command I would use?
[07:31] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, i really start thinking something is wrong with your sources
[07:32] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok, i try to reboot again
[07:32] <burning_bronx> someone must right an article called "10 reasons not to feed the trolls"
[07:32] <Nomikos> anyone tell me about cdrom drivers during install?
[07:32] <burning_bronx> >..
[07:32] <burning_bronx> >.>
[07:32] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, ok
[07:32] <vodnik> partition magic says that partition type is 83, so i changed the first line to "root (hda0,5) - 5 stands for local filesystem ext2fs, partiton type 83, then it goes to ubuntu booting screen, but when it comes to mounting local filesystems, it fails again (and i get to a command line with about 50 commands with no disks mount:-/)
[07:33] <tom3447653632> i love windows
[07:33] <tom3447653632> better than linux
[07:33] <soundray> adam_, the simplest is "cp /sourcedir/file /targetdir/". If that causes the same trouble, you could try "cat /sourcedir/file >/targetdir/file".
[07:33] <tom3447653632> blobby
[07:33] <soundray> adam_, one minute...
[07:33] <navarone> vodnik...do you get error message about missing os?
[07:34] <vodnik> navarone: no, it just fails to mount:-/
[07:34] <soundray> adam_, this is on the assumption that some RAM or cache problem is causing the crash.
[07:35] <adam_> i see
[07:35] <navarone> vodnik...ok...was thinking maybe you made wrong partition/drive bootable while in PM. I did that once ina  partition manager...lol
[07:35] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me? i'm following the wikipages of wifi ndiswrapper but i get stuck at #4
[07:35] <adam_> things work fine when its only small files. also, things work find on other comps (mac and windows)
[07:36] <vodnik> could be the problem in the fact that hda7 is not first logical partition on local harddrive? I heve got hda6 (ext3 as well) withh some data on it
[07:36] <navarone> vodnik are you dual booting?
[07:36] <adam_> soundray, so i will try that command, but i dont know where the source of the file on the external hd would be..
[07:36] <vodnik> navarone:yes, i booted to windows right now
[07:36] <levander> Isn't there a way to use google to search for pages that link to other pages?
[07:37] <levander> I mean search for pages that link to a specified page?
[07:37] <vodnik> navarone i was in working ubuntu an hour ago, then i updated to new kernel and i cannot boot anymore:-(
[07:37] <soundray> adam_, if it's mounted automatically, it should be under /media . Are you familiar with command line operations at all?
[07:37] <Evil_Whisper> woo hoo
[07:37] <Evil_Whisper> I'm using dapper's liveCD now :-P
[07:37] <Evil_Whisper> its awsome
[07:37] <navarone> vodnik I and anyone else would have to see error messages to get better idea. Any chance of getting screenshot or copying error?
[07:37] <Evil_Whisper> a little slow cause it runs off my DVD drive but =S
[07:38] <Nomikos> is it possible to use the Live CD as an install CD?
[07:38] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper how how how santa shadox is here :D
[07:38] <manveru> levander: it's not hard
[07:38] <navarone> vodnik...ahhh
[07:38] <adam_> soundray, not too much. just started learning about linux in general...
[07:38] <Nomikos> can't get the regular install CD to find it's own cdrom :-/
[07:38] <rickest> levander: http://www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html   see 'link:'
[07:38] <manveru> levander: just type the link into google and hit the search-pages-that-link-to link
[07:38] <Evil_Whisper> :P
[07:38] <navarone> vodnik are you using breezy?
[07:38] <Sh4d0x> :D
[07:38] <Evil_Whisper> When i boot back into breezy I'll give you a link Sh4d0x
[07:38] <eruin> Nomikos, I think you can boot the livecd and install the ubuntu-express package to do that
[07:39] <Nomikos> eruin: thanks, will try that then
[07:39] <levander> okay, thanks manveru and rickest
[07:39] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper ok :D o_O you are not in ubuntu right now?? shame on you :P
[07:39] <vodnik> navarone i am using breezy and i could copy error messages with hand (do not have my digital camera here:-()
[07:39] <soundray> adam_, then you will know that you can change into a directory with 'cd somewhere' and view the contents of that dir. with 'ls'
[07:39] <Evil_Whisper> I'm in dapper right now sh4d0x =P
[07:39] <adam_> ok
[07:39] <eruin> me too.. although I have it installed proper :)
[07:39] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper o_O has changed a lot?
[07:39] <Evil_Whisper> Its faster :P
[07:40] <ian_> Was just wondering who paid for the production and distribution of the Ubuntu CD I have just installed?
[07:40] <Sh4d0x> in booting?
[07:40] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah and in gnome too
[07:40] <Sh4d0x> or general?
[07:40] <ian_> coz they sent it me for nout
[07:40] <navarone> vodnik which arch and kernel?
[07:40] <adam_> mark shuttlesworth i think?
[07:40] <ian_> who's he?
[07:40] <Evil_Whisper> metacity is quite snappy now too
[07:40] <adam_> a badass
[07:40] <Sh4d0x> cus breezy take 5 minutes to boot (configuring network...... take about 3 minutes)
[07:41] <Sh4d0x> o_O  would you please stop making me jalouse :P ;)
[07:41] <adam_> soundray, should i just try that cat command first?
[07:41] <eruin> ian_, in essence our beloved mark shuttleworth ;)
[07:41] <Evil_Whisper> lol :p its just the liveCD
[07:41] <soundray> adam_, using an example from here, I can do 'cd /media', then 'ls' shows me that I have a 'cdrom0' directory there. So I do 'cd cdrom0', then another ls shows me what's in the CD root dir.
[07:41] <Evil_Whisper> Its probably even faster on the real install
[07:41] <soundray> adam_, following that principle, you can find out what's where.
[07:41] <burning_bronx> I am running dapper as desktop
[07:41] <eruin> ian_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
[07:41] <burning_bronx> performance-wise it is not a drake
[07:41] <Evil_Whisper> I like how metacity is now
[07:41] <burning_bronx> it's a Dragon
[07:41] <Sh4d0x> nice!! i'm really glad being a ubuntu user
[07:42] <burning_bronx> anyway I don't really use metacity
[07:42] <burning_bronx> I use xfwm4 as windowmanager
[07:42] <ian_> thanks i'll check that address out
[07:42] <soundray> adam_, also check out the 'mount' command to see which mount point (directory) has been assigned to your fw drive.
[07:42] <Evil_Whisper> In Gnome?
[07:42] <Sh4d0x> me neither, but it's promissing :D
[07:42] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, yeah
[07:42] <vodnik> navarone: kernel 2.6.12-10-386, architecture 686 (pentium mobile)
[07:42] <eruin> Sh4d0x, you can press ctrl+c to skip configuring network
[07:42] <burning_bronx> you can use any window manager in gnome
[07:42] <soundray> adam_, yes, why not cat first.
[07:42] <Evil_Whisper> I want a new WM
[07:42] <Sh4d0x> eruin while booting?
[07:42] <eruin> Sh4d0x, yes
[07:42] <soundray> adam_, beware: it will overwrite the target file without asking, if one exists.
[07:42] <burning_bronx> it's juggest openbox or xfwm4
[07:42] <burning_bronx> *I'd
[07:42] <Evil_Whisper> I was using openbox but the gnome panel wouldnt hide when playing Half-Life
[07:42] <Sh4d0x> eruin o_O didn't know :$:$
[07:42] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, do you really need one? ;)
[07:42] <vodnik> http://pastebin.com/476803 - this is my menu file for grub
[07:42] <adam_> soundray, i will give it a shot. if i leave, its cause i crashed
[07:43] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah I don't really like metacity on breezy
[07:43] <navarone> vodnik perhaps try booting another kernel version in grub boot
[07:43] <soundray> adam_, if I leave, it's because I'm hungry :)
[07:43] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper do you play rpg's? which one, maybe i'll see you soon at a server :D
[07:43] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, you used gnome-panel on openbox or openbox on gnome
[07:43] <adam_> haha
[07:43] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, but what does it lack that another WM can give you? :)
[07:43] <Evil_Whisper> Openbox on gnome
[07:43] <soundray> adam_, I'm sure you'll find more help if needed.
[07:44] <adam_> soundray, thanks for the help and giving me a place to start
[07:44] <vodnik> navarone:i tried all four i have:-(
[07:44] <Evil_Whisper> Eruin the only thing that I don't like about metacity is the memory useage and the crappy black stuff it draws on your screen
[07:44] <Coldwinter> hey anyone know why i cant play mp3 with amarok?
[07:44] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, lol i better upgrade my system
[07:44] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, I am using xfwm4
[07:44] <burning_bronx> it's better in performance
[07:44] <Evil_Whisper> @Sh4d0x I'm currently looking for a free MMORPG with linux client =P
[07:44] <burning_bronx> >.>
[07:44] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de which version are you using?
[07:44] <Evil_Whisper> Where you get your themes bronx?
[07:44] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, 5.04
[07:45] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper me too
[07:45] <burning_bronx> xfce-look.org
[07:45] <sbartleylinux> I am trying to get a new IBM T43 laptop to work with both the laptop LCD and an external LCD monitor using Breezy.  Anyone with experience configuring xorg this way?
[07:45] <burning_bronx> lol
[07:45] <Evil_Whisper> how do I install em? lol
[07:45] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4da aaaah, tought so :) don't need to upgrade your system
[07:45] <burning_bronx> through the xfwm themes manager?
[07:45] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, upgrading already...
[07:45] <navarone> vodnik...it does seem odd that /dev in menu says hda7 and not 6 but that maybe perfectly normal depending on how many partitions are on your drive
[07:45] <Evil_Whisper> lol maybe thats why I couldnt do it?
[07:46] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, how many upgrades?
[07:46] <burning_bronx> probably?
[07:46] <burning_bronx> lol
[07:46] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de i did the same mistake, i had about 451 upgrades
[07:46] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, some kind of base system which is over 50MB + over 100 updates
[07:47] <Evil_Whisper> Bronx what theme are you using? =P
[07:47] <burning_bronx> forgot it's name o_O;
[07:47] <burning_bronx> lemme check
[07:47] <ossie> Hi everyone
[07:47] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de i had to download 800 mb upgrades, but i preferd downloading 5.1 and reinstalled it
[07:47] <ossie> im looking for a bit of help with my parrallel port not working on ubuntu
[07:47] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, do you play WoW?
[07:47] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, seems to be one of the official ones - Symphony
[07:48] <burning_bronx> it's quite smooth o_O;
[07:48] <vodnik> navarone i got hda6 partition with data, hda5 is not there though
[07:48] <Evil_Whisper> ah ok :-P
[07:48] <Evil_Whisper> I haven't tried WoW yet Sh4d0x
[07:48] <navarone> vodnik...all your kernels are booting drives ro...that maybe the prob...>?<
[07:48] <navarone> ro=read-only
[07:48] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper o_O omg!! :-P
[07:49] <Evil_Whisper> is there a free trial first Sh4d0x?
[07:49] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, lineage?
[07:49] <vodnik> yes, i know what ro means;-), i might change it, did not try it, woul just deleting be enough or should i put there rw?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> WoW is good in ways.. and dang annoying in others. :p
[07:49] <Evil_Whisper> Never heard of Lineage =P
[07:49] <hume> got an apt problem: running apt-get remove libslp1 gives me error msg: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[07:49] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, i play on hacked servers with a copy (a) :D
[07:49] <hume> anyone have advice on this?
[07:49] <navarone> rw
[07:49] <burning_bronx> people you're going off topic
[07:49] <Evil_Whisper> :O
[07:49] <burning_bronx> this is a support chan
[07:49] <Evil_Whisper> sorry lol :p
[07:50] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, metacity currently takes 1.5% of my memory
[07:50] <ossie> hi guys, anyone have any advice to get my parrallel port working?
[07:50] <eruin> that's not exactly alot ;)
[07:50] <navarone> hume do you have synaptic open as well as apt in terminal?
[07:50] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, can you check your sources see if got them for hoary in stead of breezy
[07:50] <sbartleylinux> My xorg.conf is here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6079
[07:50] <susan> hi
[07:50] <Nomikos> meh, LiveCD won't boot either :-/ anyone ideas? how trick is the 'expert' install?
[07:50] <sbartleylinux> If anyone can help with configuration I would appreciate it.
[07:50] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper, :D anyway it's totale fun :D
[07:50] <hume> navarone: nope, just apt. and commands as apt-get update etc works fine
[07:50] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, how?
[07:51] <cmatheson> !tell sbartleylinux about anyone
[07:51] <stratovarius> guys how can I solve this problem with kguitar? kguitar: cannot create MIDI Scheduler
[07:51] <stratovarius> kguitar: ERROR opening MIDI device / Music can't be played
[07:51] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de type " sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " in a terminal
[07:52] <ajulius> hello
[07:52] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de replace them by *searching link
[07:52] <Evil_Whisper> wow the sound quality sounds better in dapper to me :S
[07:52] <navarone> hume perhaps whatever you are trying to remove is in use
[07:52] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, everywhere horay
[07:52] <sbartleylinux> cmatheson, I already asked the question above. > I am trying to get a new IBM T43 laptop to work with both the laptop LCD and an external LCD monitor using Breezy.  Anyone with experience configuring xorg this way?
[07:53] <Evil_Whisper> I wish dapper was stable :P
[07:53] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de good, now check if multiverse is enabled in your sources
[07:53] <eruin> it's stable for me :)
[07:53] <hume> sbartleylinux: i have used several thinkpads with both LCD and external, without any configuration of xorg...just pluggin it in...
[07:53] <Sh4d0x> Evil, isn't it stable yet?
[07:53] <Evil_Whisper> I dist-upgraded a few days ago and totally toasted my breezy install :(
[07:54] <eruin> Sh4d0x, it's not supposed to be for months
[07:54] <sbartleylinux> hume, hmmm.  Thought so too when I reviewed the ubuntu T43 it seemed that it should just work.
[07:54] <rockinchado> what do you put to add internet repositories to synaptic?
[07:54] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, universe?
[07:54] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper ({)
[07:54] <Evil_Whisper> April is when it's going to be stable
[07:54] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, yeah, sometimes you do that in the middle of a huge transition (like dbus 0.6) - not fun ;)
[07:54] <ossie> hi guys anyone have a list of new WORKING repositorys, the ones i got of howto are out of date
[07:54] <sbartleylinux> hume, did not however.  Fn-F7 did nothing.
[07:54] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah, Although it did teach me to make /home a seperate partition :-)
[07:54] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, after universe should stand " multiverse "
[07:55] <sbartleylinux> I have been able to get the screens mirrored by modifying the xorg.conf as my post above shows but it is not working very well.
[07:55] <hume> sbartleylinux: i found that if i plug the external monitor in before booting, the buttons for swithching display wont work, the external is on all the time, but if I boot first and then plug in, the buttons work nicely
[07:55] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SourcesList?highlight=%28sources%29
[07:55] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, welcome to that club :D
[07:55] <Evil_Whisper> :D
[07:55] <hume> sbartleylinux: but you might need the tpb-package....
[07:55] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, i have lines like this "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe"
[07:55] <Evil_Whisper> wow why is firefox in breezy so slow lol :S
[07:55] <freenik> nutze ubuntu...will aber mal n sprung zu kubuntu machen - gehts das von ubuntu auf die schnelle? tipps? urls?
[07:55] <sbartleylinux> well, the other fn keys work and I guess you experience may be the issue.  I have had the external plugged in when booting.
[07:56] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de there you find the correct sources, better you replace them (watch you copy hoary sources)
[07:56] <sbartleylinux> I guess I will try it with the external disconnected and boot up then connect it.
[07:56] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok
[07:56] <hume> sbartleylinux: okej...try the other way...good luck, gotta go....great laptops those thinkpads..:)
[07:56] <sbartleylinux> brb
[07:56] <Evil_Whisper> I hope dapper's firefox gets backported soon :p
[07:56] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de :)
[07:57] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper which version of ff is used in dapper?
[07:57] <eruin> freenik, I'd suggest going to #ubuntu-de
[07:57] <Evil_Whisper> Deer Park 1.5
[07:57] <Nomikos> ok.. install CD, what device driver can i use to mount the CD rom?
[07:57] <Evil_Whisper> its faster then the mozilla.com 1.5 :S
[07:57] <Sh4d0x> Evil_Whisper niceeee :D no replacement anymore needed
[07:58] <ajulius> can someone help me understand what netstat means
[07:58] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah, Wow dapper is awsome at managing memory! :S
[07:58] <burning_bronx> Deer Park = lightweight
[07:58] <ajulius> in one of the logs it says this:
[07:58] <ajulius> tcp        0      1 207-38-195-55.c3-:42213 gorr.state.ny.us:www    FIN_WAIT1
[07:58] <ossie> guys what is location of sources.list again please???
[07:58] <Evil_Whisper> Bronx is there some way to get deer park in Breezy?
[07:58] <ajulius> send-q says 1
[07:58] <ajulius> and it says fin_wait1
[07:58] <eruin> ossie, /etc/apt/
[07:58] <ajulius> so what does this tell me?
[07:58] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, besides compiling from code?
[07:58] <ossie> cheers
[07:59] <Evil_Whisper> well if thats what it takes :p I'm up to the challenge
[07:59] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de don't forget to save the file before closing ;)
[07:59] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, download a binary off mozilla.org I suppose
[07:59] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, done, just waiting for the update
[07:59] <Evil_Whisper> Where would I find that?
[07:59] <pashaw> ajulius,  FIN_WAIT1
[07:59] <pashaw>    The socket is closed, and the connection is shutting down.
[07:59] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, 4 mins...
[08:00] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de ok, if upgrades are ready, also do a update because you changed your sources
[08:00] <ajulius> pashaw it means there was an open socket initially?
[08:00] <Evil_Whisper> wow deer park = 40mb ram firefox 1.0.7 (breezy) = 120mb
[08:00] <eruin> Evil_Whisper, http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ :p
[08:00] <pashaw> ajulius,   use man netstat     then search  by hitting /<text>  enter
[08:00] <Evil_Whisper> thanks eruin
[08:00] <ajulius> pashaw:  All the ports were closed........ so how could someone get thru since i never connected to that site
[08:00] <Amaranth> hrm
[08:01] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, actually Deer Park is the project name
[08:01] <burning_bronx> Firefox RC3 is Deer Park
[08:01] <Amaranth> if ubuntu wanted to ship mp3 ship out-of-the-box from fluendo they'd have to drop rhythmbox and switch to banshee
[08:01] <Evil_Whisper> :O
[08:01] <burning_bronx> (I think)
[08:01] <Amaranth> and mono won't fit on the CD :/
[08:01] <Evil_Whisper> Its better then final tho :o
[08:02] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, in the changelog it sais the final has no code changes since RC3
[08:02] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[08:02] <burning_bronx> wicked huh?
[08:02] <eruin> Amaranth, I'd love that
[08:02] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de i'm for a moment at the kitching looking for a mjammie :D brb
[08:02] <Evil_Whisper> weird
[08:02] <Evil_Whisper> :s
[08:02] <Amaranth> eruin: Me too, but it isn't possible.
[08:02] <eruin> Amaranth, let's drop xscreensaver-glx and friends ;)
[08:02] <Evil_Whisper> I don't understand how its faster and takes less memory then?
[08:02] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, maybe it's because of the gnome-support packages for firefox
[08:02] <Amaranth> eruin: ha
[08:02] <navarone> anjulius is your isp rcn.com?
[08:03] <Evil_Whisper> How could you remove thoes?
[08:03] <Amaranth> eruin: I think if they compress some things with LZMA (7zip) it _might_ fit.
[08:03] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok
[08:03] <pashaw> ajulius,   did you have a reason for finding this netstat  entry or just learning
[08:03] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, you wouldn't want to remove them - you would want to add them
[08:03] <burning_bronx> they are dapper only tho
[08:03] <Evil_Whisper> :-\
[08:03] <Evil_Whisper> Darn
[08:04] <ajulius> pashaw:  just learning
[08:04] <eruin> Amaranth, yeah, I noticed that discussion... didn't seem very conclusive on the actual gains though
[08:04] <Evil_Whisper> Oh yeah isn't the engine seperate in Dapper?
[08:04] <pashaw> ajulius,  is your computer behind a firewall?
[08:04] <navarone> if it's your isp it could just be your connection to network/internet
[08:04] <ajulius> pashaw:  Its weird that an ip address showed up that i never ever used before
[08:04] <ajulius> pashaw:  No....... ubuntu is supposed to come with all ports closed
[08:04] <pashaw> ajulius,  you werent hacked
[08:05] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, not yet but firefox now has firefox support
[08:05] <stratovarius> does anyone here use kguitar?
[08:05] <burning_bronx> oops
[08:05] <Evil_Whisper> ?
[08:05] <pashaw> ajulius,   likely a page you were on pulled something off that site  which your browser did
[08:05] <burning_bronx> I mean firefox had gnome support
[08:05] <Evil_Whisper> oh thats awsome
[08:05] <ajulius> no it didnt
[08:05] <mdmeisberger> anyone have a link to a website on how to install things in general? I'm in the process from leaving windows but can't figure out this install thing yet.
[08:06] <burning_bronx> mdmeisberger, what do you want to install?
[08:06] <pashaw> ajulius,   netstat  is just a tool reporting current connections to and from your machine    dont panic
[08:06] <eruin> mdmeisberger, generally you just use the "synaptic" package manager to install things
[08:06] <mdmeisberger> right now firefox 1.5 but i've tried multiple things
[08:06] <khermans_> Anyone know how to add SOAP to a PDF file so that when the PDF is opened it will connect to my webserver?
[08:06] <burning_bronx> Evil_Whisper, that package integrates mostly handlers as far as I know but it could have more stuff
[08:06] <GMachine_24> Can someone direct me to a good 'howto' for backing up my entire system please?
[08:06] <navarone> anjulius was a tcp connection probably a browser connection closing
[08:06] <burning_bronx> mdmeisberger, if you're using breezy it won't be that easy
[08:07] <burning_bronx> you can read here
[08:07] <burning_bronx> !firefox1.5
[08:07] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:07] <mdmeisberger> thanks
[08:07] <eruin> mdmeisberger, yeah, ff1.5 won't be coming to breezy. you could just download ff1.5 from mozilla.com and unzip it to your home dir
[08:07] <burning_bronx> that works too
[08:07] <mdmeisberger> how do I run the synaptic manager as root?
[08:07] <burning_bronx> mdmeisberger, it runs with gksudo by default
[08:08] <levander> There is a way to have dpkg tell you what package is requiring a specified package?  Or, what package recommends a specified package?
[08:08] <eruin> mdmeisberger, it should be in the System  menu
[08:08] <jennhi> can anyone please help me play a dvd that says it's encrypted or faulty? I'm able to play some dvds but not others. Thanks!
[08:08] <burning_bronx> !dvd
[08:08] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[08:08] <pashaw> levander,   apt-cache show <name>    read the details
[08:08] <Nei> hello, I want to have /boot umounted by default, is there an easy way to teach the ubuntu scripts like installing new kernel/removing old kernel that they should mount it?
[08:09] <khermans_> GMachine_24, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem?highlight=%28backup%29
[08:09] <levander> pashaw: I have the package that would be required by another package, not the package that does the requiring.
[08:09] <GMachine_24> khermans: thanks.
[08:09] <navarone> Nei it is [possible to remove kernels in synaptic with out scripts
[08:09] <GaLi> #indy
[08:09] <pashaw> levander,   huh?
[08:10] <Nei> navarone, the problem is that obviously things go wrong when /boot isn't mounted
[08:10] <levander> pashaw: do you know a lot about all the apt commands?
[08:10] <pashaw> levander,   how did you know to select that package?   or what were you adding that requested it
[08:10] <Evil_Whisper> Alright i'm going to boot back into breezy before I get too addicted (SP?) to Dapper =P
[08:10] <pashaw> levander,   used debain alot
[08:10] <levander> pashaw: i can explain to you, but it's a waste of time if you don't know a lot about the apt commands
[08:10] <navarone> Nei obviously so why a script to unmount it?
[08:10] <levander> pashaw: that doesn't answer the question
[08:10] <khermans_> levander, man aptitude
[08:11] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de b
[08:11] <s3phiroth> hi. is there a way to change gnome's default music player ? the only way i found till now trough some googling was to redefine /usr/bin/rhythmbox to a symlink...
[08:11] <sbartleylinux> Ok, so, I am trying to get a new T43 laptop to display to both the laptop lcd and an external lcd using Breezy.  If I boot the laptop with the external monitor disconnected, the laptop lcd comes up great at 1400x1050.  I then connect the external lcd.  It comes on but the screen is missing the top application bar and about a menu bar width along the left side.
[08:11] <Sh4d0x> hi nalioth
[08:11] <sbartleylinux> The f7 key does not appear to do anything.
[08:11] <nalioth> Sh4d0x: howdy
[08:11] <eruin> s3phiroth, rightclick -> properties on a file
[08:11] <Ribs> sbartleylinux: Can't you just resize the screen in the monitor?
[08:11] <nalioth> howdy all
[08:11] <navarone> s3phiroth, go to folder with mp3 files and right click...open with and chose your fav player
[08:12] <eruin> s3phiroth, then go to the open with tab and switch to your preferred player
[08:12] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, updated
[08:12] <Nei> navarone, I don't want boot to be mounted
[08:12] <sbartleylinux> Ribs, I do not see a method to tell screensize which monitor to size for.
[08:12] <s3phiroth> but that won't change the default music player for the "Launch music player" shortcut
[08:12] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de both done? upgraded and updated?
[08:12] <Corrupter> is there any way to turn off the preview option when you put your mouse over a song?
[08:12] <Ribs> sbartleylinux: I mean on the monitor itself
[08:12] <sbartleylinux> Ribs, ah.
[08:12] <navarone> s3phiroth, you can use System/Pref/Multimedia selector
[08:12] <levander> khermans_: thanks, but i didn't see it in the aptitude man page
[08:13] <jennhi> hi, Ubotu.  I just installed libdvdcss2 from the link you provided and still cannot play this dvd. It says the dvd is encrypted or faulty, but I know it will play in other players, and this player can play other dvds. Any recommendations?
[08:13] <navarone> Nei...y?
[08:13] <khermans_> levander, what are you looking for specifically?
[08:13] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, well, update manager says im up to date
[08:13] <Nei> navarone, because it is unnecessary
[08:13] <s3phiroth> navarone: no i can't. that's only good for changing the sound server.
[08:13] <Sh4d0x> ok
[08:13] <sbartleylinux> Ribs, no.  I have no size control, only position control and an auto feature on this lcd.  It is a newer CTX 17" LCD
[08:13] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de
[08:13] <mdmeisberger> does anyone have a pereferred progamming lanugage for writing cross platform programs?
[08:13] <Sh4d0x> * now reinstal xmms
[08:14] <levander> khermans: I've got a package I'm trying to figure out how it got installed on my system.  I assume it was "required" by another package.  I'm trying to figure out what package that I installed required the package I'm investigating.
[08:14] <hondje> qt
[08:14] <sbartleylinux> Ribs, the auto resize is apparently how it ends up with the menu's off the screen.
[08:14] <pashaw> khermans_,   this is levanders quote:   I have the package that would be required by another package, not the package that does the requiring.
[08:14] <Corrupter> is there any way to turn off the preview option when you put your mouse over a song?
[08:14] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, still same
[08:14] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, window froze
[08:15] <sbartleylinux> If I boot the laptop with the external monitor attached, I get the external monitor but the laptop screen goes black once X starts.  The external monitor is then at the correct size but then I have no image on the laptop lcd.
[08:15] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de hmm ok, let's try to remove it
[08:15] <pashaw> levander,  ok that make more sense      what package?
[08:15] <khermans_> levander, well get the original package! or compoile from source!
[08:15] <levander> pashaw: mpg321
[08:15] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de, or maybe a reboot after your updates, (but guess that won't help neiter)
[08:15] <sbartleylinux> And since the F7 does not do anything, I have no easy way to switch from external back to the laptop if I need to pick the laptop up and go anywhere.
[08:16] <ekra> Bonjour !
[08:16] <d4rksh4de> Sh4d0x, ok i ll reboot, but first i try to find the file where DNS addresses are stored
[08:16] <Sh4d0x> ekra, bonsoir
[08:17] <Sh4d0x> d4rksh4de i'm affraid i can't help you with that :$
[08:17] <M3G4> hey guys
[08:17] <Corrupter> is there any way to turn off the preview option when you put your mouse over a song?
[08:17] <ekra> excusez-moi de vous dranger mais o pourrai-je trouver une aide gnrale (comme pour l'installation des packetage) pour dbutants, s'il vous plat
[08:17] <navarone> sbartley you'd be ebs tto paste your xorg.conf on pastebin for folks to look at
[08:18] <navarone> ekra #ubuntu-fr
[08:18] <M3G4> can anyone help me with graphics drivers?
[08:18] <ekra> merci
[08:18] <Sh4d0x> ekra www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:18] <jennhi> Hi guys. I just installed libdvdcss2 and still cannot play this dvd. It says the dvd is encrypted or faulty, but I know it will play in other players, and this player can play other dvds. Any recommendations?
[08:18] <ekra> :) merci
[08:18] <ekra> bsoir
[08:18] <Sh4d0x> ekra bsoir :)
[08:18] <M3G4> guys?
[08:18] <TooEarly> girls
[08:19] <Zdra> hi ! where can I download an ISO to install dapper with the new ubuntu-express install system ? Or is it still in a too early stage of developpement ?
[08:19] <M3G4> lol
[08:19] <jennhi> geece :)
[08:19] <Sh4d0x> serious, are here girls??
[08:19] <M3G4> I need some help with this PC
[08:19] <TooEarly> mm not sure? lol doubt any understand linux :p
[08:19] <jennhi> yes, girls occasionally use computers
[08:19] <nalioth> Sh4d0x: please don't advise ubuntuguide, advise help.ubuntu.com instead (ubuntuguide is out of date and breaks things)
[08:19] <M3G4> I've posted on the forum, but the replies are too damn slow
[08:19] <khermans_> i am a girl!
[08:19] <TooEarly> hehe
[08:19] <nalioth> Sh4d0x: general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is a help channel
[08:19] <DarkMan> hello all
[08:20] <Corrupter> ...
[08:20] <Sh4d0x> nalioth sry, didn't know i allways use it :$
[08:20] <khermans_> Sh4d0x, yeah ubuntuguide.org should be taken down
[08:20] <Evil_Whisper> HEEELLLLPPPPP LOL
[08:20] <khermans_> Evil_Whisper, ?
[08:20] <Evil_Whisper> dapper's liveCD borked my Xorg on Breezy lol
[08:20] <DarkMan> annyone  can me  what  ubuntu 5.10  needs  for  processor and  hd and  mem?
[08:20] <khermans_> of course
[08:20] <Corrupter> ...
[08:20] <Sh4d0x> nalioth, but i'll keep it in mind, thank you :)
[08:20] <Corrupter> is there any way to turn off the preview option when you put your mouse over a song?
[08:20] <M3G4> this machine is so damn slow, it's an AMD Duron 1GHz, I've installed the linux kernel, but I have no clue how to install graphics drivers, or even where to get them for my ProSavage integrated Gfx
[08:20] <TooEarly> i'm having a problem installing my rt2500 drivers - i have a linksys wireless and the drivers aren't in synaptic, is there any possible way to import the drivers to synapic so i can install it?
[08:20] <M3G4> can anyone help?
[08:20] <khermans_> dark, i have run it on as little as 233 mhx and 64 MB
[08:21] <Evil_Whisper> I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I have no clue if i answered stuff right
[08:21] <Evil_Whisper> and gdm wont start now lol
[08:21] <nalioth> TooEarly: have you followed the rt2500 wiki article?
[08:21] <DarkMan> and khermans, does  it runs  good ??
[08:21] <Evil_Whisper> I thought liveCD's didn't effect full installs?
[08:21] <khermans_> DarkMan, yeah it runs "fine"
[08:21] <Evil_Whisper> it chrooted :(
[08:21] <M3G4> can ANYONE HELP!? :P
[08:22] <M3G4> PLEASE
[08:22] <M3G4> i'll like...whore myself or something
[08:22] <nalioth> M3G4: caps wont get you help
[08:22] <TooEarly> yeah
[08:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell M3G4 about xcfg
[08:22] <TooEarly> nalioth: yes i took a look at that
[08:22] <nalioth> M3G4: use the VESA driver when you run the above command
[08:22] <jennhi> anyone who knows anything about playing stubborn dvds?
[08:22] <khermans_> jennhi, yes
[08:23] <M3G4> nalioth: how do i run that driver?
[08:23] <nalioth> TooEarly: the source for the module is linked from that article
[08:23] <M3G4> i know next to nothing about linux
[08:23] <DarkMan> oke  tnx ,  i  was  wundering ,  because  i  try to install  it on a  amd 400 mhz  with 168  mb  mem  , and 3,2  gig  hd ,, butt i always  get  error ,
[08:23] <nalioth> M3G4: you read what ubotu sent you and choose the VESA driver
[08:23] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, no i allways watch .avi :D
[08:23] <Evil_Whisper> !xorg
[08:23] <ubotu> [xorg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:24] <kyncani> jennhi: works fine here
[08:24] <TooEarly> nalioth: where is the one you are talking about located?
[08:24] <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo       <<<<< TooEarly
[08:24] <ubuntu> hello
[08:25] <Sh4d0x> nalioth if you have some time, can you help me configuring my wifi? cus i'm following the wiki page but i get stuck at #4 :$
[08:25] <DarkMan> are  there  more  users  with  a  low system who  use  ubuntu 5.10 ??
[08:25] <lowman62> hey room
[08:25] <TooEarly> yeah i checked that out, and it says drivers aren't installed and i install other drivers but it says they are depended on others so i just keep going and i eventually got to one that depended on another and just stopped
[08:25] <ubuntu> need assistance on my ubuntu install in my laptop
[08:25] <Sh4d0x> DarkMan, low system? depends how low :D
[08:25] <d4rksh4de> anyone knows the file location where network settings are stored?
[08:25] <DonVincenzo> Hi, I would like to know if some software exist to create a presentation with a background music. With OO I am just able to play a sound for a slide transition.
[08:25] <ubuntu> anyone who have an idea how to fix, laptop does not reboot
[08:25] <DarkMan> i use  a  400 mhz  at the moment  , but it doesen't work
[08:26] <lowman62> what make of laptop is it?
[08:26] <ubuntu> after clicking log out>reboot>, it does not reboot
[08:26] <ubuntu> lowman, its a satellite a10
[08:27] <Sh4d0x> DarkMan, hmm i'm at 1,4 ghz, everything runs fine on my ibm :)
[08:27] <pashaw> DarkMan, im using a 500 laptop right now
[08:27] <lowman62> that is what i have and it installed just fine
[08:27] <M3G4> nalioth, do i reboot the machine now?
[08:27] <jennhi> :( no recommendations for being able to read an alternate dvd encryption? (it says faulty or encrypted -- and I know it's not faulty)
[08:27] <nalioth> M3G4: nope. just log out and back in
[08:27] <lowman62> toshiba satellite a10
[08:27] <ubuntu> lowman, it still dual boot with the bundled winxp
[08:27] <M3G4> i don't get why it was so slow, it looks like it already knew that i had a prosavage chip?
[08:28] <lowman62> that is why...i turfed the winxp
[08:28] <Sh4d0x> jennhu i would like to help you, but i can't cus i'm not even using it :(
[08:28] <Sh4d0x> *i
[08:28] <xClayG> one of my machines will not accept connection from my local machine, but ssh'ing from another remote system works
[08:28] <xClayG> any ideas?
[08:28] <M3G4> nalioth, is there anything else that could be slowing the machine down apart from gfx? i've installed the linux kernal, and done what you said. i'm about to log out, but what if it doesn't work and the PC is still slow?
[08:28] <jennhi> sokay, Sh4dox.
[08:29] <ubuntu> lowman, any ideas how to fix it? is it because of winxp?
[08:29] <DarkMan> what  spaces  does 5.10 needs  on a  hd  when it is  installed  , 3,2  is  that  enough ??
[08:29] <ossie> anyone got a list of upto date repositorys with dvd mp3 everything ??/ please
[08:29] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, have tried to play with vlc? cus it can handle a lot :)
[08:29] <rockinchado> um i have rt2500 usb wireless and it doesn't show up in the networking thing            any suggestions?
[08:29] <DarkMan> depends  on what and how many  package  will be  installed , i mean  just a  basic  install ?
[08:29] <lowman62> ubuntu: I had to buy windows xp pro and set it up to dual boot the bundle recovery ware xp is proprietary and wants to own your laptop exclusively
[08:30] <nalioth> M3G4: what kind of PC was it again? (the hardware?)
[08:30] <pashaw> DarkMan,  clean install  im using about 2G even
[08:30] <ubuntu> yeah i know that, i let ubuntu resize the ntfs of winxp and it was fine
[08:30] <M3G4> nalioth, AMD Duron 1GHz, 192MB RAM (8MB shared to GFX), O/B Sound, Netgear 10/100 LAN card, Seagate 40GB HDD, 24x CDROM
[08:30] <kyncani> !nvidia
[08:30] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:30] <lowman62> ubuntu: uh huh not necessarily xp just that toshiba bundleware backup version of xp
[08:31] <jennhi> Sh4d0x, giving it a try now
[08:31] <pashaw> DarkMan,   but add the swap file   so 2.5G
[08:31] <ubuntu> the problem is with reboot, maybe its because of the kernel?
[08:31] <Octane> i have kubuntu and i want to start the transition of dual booting with windows... whats the best way to do that?
[08:31] <ossie> anyone got a list of upto date repositorys with dvd mp3 everything ??/ please
[08:31] <DarkMan> tnx  pashaw, so  my  3,2  gig  hd  will be  to small ??
[08:31] <Octane> create another partition obviously right
[08:31] <ubuntu> i have 2.6.12 on breezy
[08:31] <Sh4d0x> jennhi oki, hope it works with you
[08:31] <TooEarly> nalioth: hey could you help rockinchado, he's the one i was tryna help -- so that's the actual problem he has atm
[08:31] <lowman62> did you have it working before ?
[08:31] <pashaw> DarkMan,   it would work for now  until you get install happy  :P
[08:32] <ubuntu> nope, someone told me of apending reboot=h in my grub menu.lst
[08:32] <pashaw> DarkMan,  my home system has the bells and whisles and uses like 45G
[08:32] <ubuntu> but did'nt worked
[08:32] <pashaw> errr   * 4.5G
[08:32] <Determinist> is there a way to run nautilus with root permissions (gksudo) but have it use the preferences i have under my user instead of the root prefferences?
[08:32] <jennhi> sh4d0x, so I "open disc" and then what do I do?
[08:32] <DarkMan> i have  it  installed  on my own  system , but i want to have  it on a  second  system , amd 400 mhz  , 168 mb mem , 3,2  hd  , vcard 128 mb ,  but it doesen't work  :(
[08:33] <lowman62> ubuntu: hrmm i think you are having the same proprietary issue i was having but if you ever figure it out let me know. I sure would like to know the fix for that one
[08:33] <Sh4d0x> jennhi load the file you want to play
[08:33] <jennhi> it's a disc
[08:33] <jennhi> if I hit "okay" after the dialog, nothing shows up
[08:33] <pashaw> DarkMan,   doesnt work is a bit vague....     doesnt boot,   you get errors?
[08:33] <ubuntu> ok, thanks lowman
[08:33] <jennhi> if I hit "play" after that, nothing happens.
[08:34] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, euhm try file open, wait i'll my vlc for exact instructions
[08:34] <lowman62> ubuntu: I have since bought another computer and put windows xp back on that laptop and put ubuntu on the new computer.
[08:34] <DarkMan> install  stoppes  at  processing  basic procedure
[08:34] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, file > open file > *select file
[08:34] <lowman62> yw ubuntu sorry i was not any help at all :(
[08:34] <pashaw> DarkMan,   what boot: options did you use
[08:35] <DarkMan> and  sometimes when i retry  it gives  me  a  message  panic in kernel
[08:35] <DarkMan> basic
[08:35] <jennhi> sh4dox, that's great for video files, but how do I play a dvd?
[08:35] <ubuntu> maybe this has something to do with the BIOS of satellite a10 and the kernel
[08:35] <jennhi> you can't just browse a dvd -- the raw files aren't playable.
[08:35] <jennhi> and because of this encryption thing, I can't rip the dvd, either.
[08:36] <pashaw> DarkMan,   try this->   boot: linux acpi=off
[08:36] <DarkMan> when i try  the live cd  i get the  same  error and  it iis  very slow
[08:36] <M3G4> nalioth, it's still on the slow side :(
[08:36] <DarkMan> oke  will try  tnx  pashaw
[08:36] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, of course you can browse :)
[08:36] <M3G4> I've rebooted and such and still crawling
[08:36] <lowman62> may possibly be ubuntu...i could not find it in there tho :|
[08:36] <jennhi> what files do I play? they're all odd types and I can't tell which one is the actual movie.
[08:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell M3G4 about xubuntu
[08:37] <Sh4d0x> jennhi euhm can you change pictograms to "details"
[08:37] <jennhi> .vob, .ifo, .vob files....
[08:37] <vince__> hi
[08:37] <Sh4d0x> jennhi than you select the biggest ones
[08:37] <Nukeador> hi
[08:37] <M3G4> nalioth, is there any difference between gnome and xfce - can i still do all the stuff i do with it with xfce?
[08:38] <Nukeador> any idea how to run cedega correctly?
[08:38] <nalioth> M3G4: yes you can.
[08:38] <rockinchado> my rt2500 usb card isn't showing up in the networking thing on breezy badger         can anyone help?
[08:38] <nalioth> rockinchado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[08:38] <M3G4> nalioth, so what are these things then? why would they make a difference?
[08:38] <vince__> with breezy when i use tube like "ps | grep YYY" i have this response "bash: grep: command not found", my path is correct
[08:38] <vince__> ???
[08:38] <duckdown> Hey all.. I'm trying to make a .sh script to execute a bunch of commands to get my wireless working, but it's executing them too quickly.  How can I make it wait like 4 seconds in between one of the commands?
[08:38] <eruin> Nukeador, check out their forums at transgaming.org
[08:38] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, does it works?
[08:38] <Nukeador> ive installed cedega but when i try to local installa the cedega engine i get an error
[08:39] <nalioth> M3G4: i don't know your hardware specs, xubuntu is made for older systems
[08:39] <kyncani> M3G4: they're all very different and have different flavors, it's a matter of taste basically
[08:39] <ossie> i think you could use the sleep command vince__
[08:39] <ossie> i think you could use the sleep command vince__  try man sleep
[08:39] <vince__> ossie, yes why?
[08:39] <pinkisntwell> can I install from source in ubuntu? what packages will I need?
[08:39] <M3G4> i don't get why this machine is so slow, though
[08:39] <DarkMan> pashaw , im trying  it out now
[08:39] <M3G4> it's hardly old by a long shot
[08:39] <ossie> sorry vince__  i meant that for duckdown
[08:39] <kyncani> M3G4: how much ram ?
[08:39] <duckdown> ossie Oh? sleep? thanks
[08:40] <M3G4> 1GHz is still kinda fast, and it is nowhere near this slow even in memory hungry WinXP
[08:40] <rockinchado> nalioth, yeah it says at the top though that if you are using breezy badger then it should just show up right after install but mine isn't there          it only shows up inthe device manager thing
[08:40] <duckdown> ill check it
[08:40] <jennhi> sh4d0x, nah. It looks like it finally has something it can possibly read (there's now something in the advancer bar), but it won't actually play anything, video or audio.
[08:40] <M3G4> 192MB with 8MB shared with GFX
[08:40] <jennhi> I've found 3 files that were the biggest, but all of equal size
[08:40] <DeCaoS> help me :$  what command can i use to recovery only one file from tape backup ?
[08:40] <nalioth> rockinchado: alt-f2 > network-admin <enter>
[08:40] <eruin> M3G4, the version of gnome in breezy has some general performance issues methinks
[08:41] <kyncani> M3G4: well, it's not much ram. I think you should try xfce4 instead of gnome/kde
[08:41] <eruin> M3G4, or rather, gtk has
[08:41] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, ow than i probably can't really help you :$:(
[08:41] <rockinchado> nalioth, yeah mine wireless is supposed to show up in there isn't it?
[08:41] <duckdown> ossie works great, thanks man
[08:41] <ossie> np :)
[08:41] <nalioth> rockinchado: it it's not, you may have to load the module properly
[08:41] <duckdown> brb
[08:41] <jennhi> sh4d0x, thanks anyway -- that's a recommendation no one's ever given before.
[08:41] <M3G4> if I added more ram, would it improve speed much?
[08:41] <blanky> do any of you guys come from slackware?
[08:42] <M3G4> the system generally crawls - from window rendering to actually launching applications
[08:42] <Sh4d0x> jennhi ({) :D
[08:42] <rockinchado> nalioth, how do you do that? lol
[08:42] <Steil> blanky, yes
[08:42] <blanky> Steil, you did?
[08:42] <nalioth> rockinchado: by following the rt2500 wiki page
[08:42] <blanky> Steil, why'd you switch
[08:42] <Steil> yep
[08:42] <kyncani> M3G4: yes, more ram would make much of a difference
[08:42] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, i'll search for some programs
[08:43] <M3G4> I'll add some more RAM In the new year then
[08:43] <Steil> blanky, needed a quick setup for my laptop, liked it so I stayed
[08:43] <blanky> Steil, lol
[08:43] <rockinchado> nalioth, ok i'll check
[08:43] <M3G4> but until then it'll have to plod along like this. what sort of RAM would be optimal for this PC?
[08:43] <blanky> Steil, so you're not going back to slack?
[08:43] <M3G4> 256?
[08:43] <kyncani> M3G4: i would not consider less than 512 ram actually
[08:43] <blanky> Does anyone here come from SuSe?
[08:43] <Sh4d0x> jennhi got something for you
[08:43] <Steil> blanky, I still use slack once in a while for my fileservers, but for desktop I'm probably sticking with ubuntu
[08:44] <Sh4d0x> jennhi http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5644   (read the xine part :) )
[08:44] <blanky> Steil, cool
[08:44] <jennhi> is it something that can break lots of encryptions?
[08:44] <M3G4> 512MB for a 1GHz machine?
[08:44] <jennhi> >reading<
[08:44] <M3G4> isn't that overkill?
[08:44] <blanky> Is anyone experiencing slow window renders/redrawing?
[08:44] <blanky> in GNOME
[08:44] <M3G4> blanky - me
[08:44] <Steil> nope
[08:44] <M3G4> and generally slow performance :p
[08:44] <blanky> M3G4, DUDE! that's the only reason why i dont like it
[08:44] <blanky> M3G4, me too!
[08:44] <pashaw> M3G4,   how much swap space is used  in "top"
[08:45] <blanky> M3G4, and I have a fast computer too! well pretty fast
[08:45] <M3G4> pashow - how do i find out?
[08:45] <concept10> I have 1gig ram in a 300mhz box :)
[08:45] <M3G4> blanky- mines only a 1GHz but even windows runs faster than this
[08:45] <pashaw> M3G4,  open a terminal and type   top
[08:45] <kyncani> M3G4: i do not think 512 Mb ram is overkill.
[08:45] <pashaw> M3G4,    hit Q  to stop it
[08:45] <blanky> M3G4, I have 2.5 gigs, 512mb, and still slow
[08:45] <M3G4> lol my new dell has 1GB of RAM
[08:45] <Quadro> Help please with adjustment pptp-linux: how to adjust VPN in a text mode, without pptp-config?
[08:46] <rockinchado> nalioth,  i typed lsmod | grep 2.00 in the terminal and nothing comes up       does that mean i have loaded the modules or whatever?
[08:46] <pashaw> M3G4,   im using 192mb ram laptop right now
[08:46] <pashaw> M3G4,   its pokey  but  usable
[08:46] <navarone> M3G4, I have Athlon 1.2ghz and adding another 256mb means never using swap in my experience
[08:46] <Steil> blanky, have you prelinked or changed your video driver?
[08:46] <kyncani> M3G4: and you hear the hard drive always running, especially when your desktop is crawling i guess
[08:47] <Sh4d0x> jennhi maybe this link can also be quite usefull   http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/07/30/linux-playing-encrypted-dvd/
[08:47] <blanky> Steil, I downloaded and installed the ati drivers from apt, and they worked, I ran games such as UT2K4 extremely nicely
[08:47] <M3G4> 12652k SWAP space used
[08:47] <blanky> Steil, however, it's my wndow redrawings
[08:47] <blanky> Steil, I was checking my xorg.conf to see if it was a problem in there
[08:47] <pashaw> M3G4,    the 2nd column not the first one
[08:47] <navarone> M3G4, yeah...it's crawling cos it is reading off slow drive instead of fast ram
[08:47] <M3G4> i dont actually thing the computer is doing all that much swapping, the hard drive light is hardly ever lit
[08:47] <Steil> hmm
[08:47] <Sh4d0x> blanky, wanna play a game, instagib?
[08:47] <blanky> Steil, it was alright, then I heard about the backingstop and renderaccel options, I tried and nothing worked (ATI)
[08:48] <nalioth> rockinchado: i'm not the best person to ask about wireless, but i'd say no, it wasn't loaded
[08:48] <Steil> you're running breezy
[08:48] <Sh4d0x> blanky :D
[08:48] <Steil> ?
[08:48] <M3G4> ?
[08:48] <M3G4> me?
[08:48] <blanky> Sh4d0x, I thought you meant instagib from Jedi Outcast lol, nah bud, sorry, I'm busy :(
[08:48] <blanky> Steil, yes
[08:48] <pashaw> M3G4,   the first column is total   2nd column in USED
[08:48] <M3G4> navarone - the hard drive light is hardly ever lit - i dont think its swapping
[08:48] <Sh4d0x> blanky, just kidding, we'll meet once don't worry ;)
[08:48] <kyncani> !tell M3G4 about memory
[08:49] <blanky> Sh4d0x, lol okay
[08:49] <M3G4> Swap:   538136k total,    12652k used,   525484k free,    60724k cached
[08:49] <blanky> !tell blanky about memory
[08:49] <navarone> M3G4, well if you can afford it...extra memory will not go wrong
[08:49] <SAM_theman> i love u guys now KDE 3.5 works
[08:49] <SAM_theman>  but i forgot the command for the compiler packages what is it again
[08:49] <Sh4d0x> SAM_theman, only the present guys? what about the girls :p
[08:49] <blanky> Steil, any ideas? :(
[08:49] <Fushi> lol
[08:49] <SAM_theman> o i am srry
[08:49] <pashaw> M3G4,   thats only 12mb swapped
[08:50] <M3G4> exactly
[08:50] <Steil> blanky, have you tried prelinking?
[08:50] <Sh4d0x> SAM-theman :D np (k)
[08:50] <M3G4> so why the hell is it so slow/
[08:50] <SAM_theman> Thank To The Guys And GALS who helped me
[08:50] <M3G4> ?
[08:50] <blanky> Steil, no, what is that?
[08:50] <blanky> !prelinking
[08:50] <ubotu> blanky: Syntax error in line 1
[08:50] <blanky> what is prelinking
[08:50] <pashaw> M3G4,   mine Swap:   875532k total,    48828k used,   826704k free,    63044k cached
[08:50] <Steil> blanky, sudo apt-get install prelink
[08:50] <navarone> M3G4, 386 kernel?
[08:50] <blanky> Steil, okay, and then what
[08:50] <Fushi> How do I tell what process is running on what port?
[08:50] <blanky> Steil, what's it do
[08:50] <M3G4> navarone - no, Linux kernal#
[08:50] <M3G4> I mean
[08:50] <pashaw> M3G4,   video driver not setup correctly in xorg.conf
[08:51] <M3G4> K7 kernal
[08:51] <Steil> lemme get you a link
[08:51] <eruin> M3G4, hmm... I'd' say our videocard is probably a bit off the top shelf ;)
[08:51] <Steil> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74197&highlight=prelink
[08:51] <M3G4> pashaw - it was originally set to S3 ProSavage which is what it is, then I got told to switch to VESA
[08:51] <blanky> Steil, thanks
[08:51] <M3G4> now it's still as damn slow as it was before
[08:51] <navarone> M3G4, I have asus mb with athlon 1.2 512mb ram and geforce3 vidcard...not much different than you
[08:52] <M3G4> exactly
[08:52] <navarone> except for vidcard
[08:52] <M3G4> If windows can run quickly on this PC, linux has no excuse :-/
[08:52] <pashaw> M3G4,   haha      operator error   would be the excuse
[08:53] <navarone> M3G4, does it recognize correct vidcard in device manager?
[08:53] <M3G4> navarone - it calls it by it's name, yes
[08:53] <funkyHat> M3G4, it does, hardware manufacturers release drivers for Windows, linux drivers are written by the community on the whole (or in the case of ATI, written badly by the manufacturer)
[08:53] <Steil> heh Serge_K it isn't a debian clone though :)
[08:53] <Sh4d0x> euhm noob question :$:$ but how do yo pm someone?
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Sh4d0x about register
[08:54] <navarone>  /msg nick ,message>
[08:54] <navarone> ahh
[08:54] <Serge_K> Steil: damn ,aybe they would ban me here too
[08:54] <M3G4> funkyhat - i still fail to see how Linux can be THIS slow on account of a graphics card driver?
[08:54] <Ozman> will the gdesklets start automatically after restarting my computer ?
[08:54] <SAM_theman> i have gdesktop
[08:55] <SAM_theman> *gdesklets
[08:55] <TD-Linux> Dapper Drake 2 has 2.6.15, am I correct?
[08:55] <Sh4d0x> SAM_theman, can't you read my pm? :$
[08:55] <funkyHat> M3G4, is the system slow at doing things not graphics-related?
[08:55] <eruin> TD-Linux, yes
[08:55] <SAM_theman> nope
[08:55] <Sh4d0x> scrapple :(
[08:55] <M3G4> funkyhat - yes, its slow to launch applications and such
[08:55] <navarone> M3G4, is this a fresh install?
[08:55] <Ozman> SAM_theman, ?
[08:55] <SAM_theman> try to pm me
[08:55] <SAM_theman> ok buddie
[08:55] <M3G4> navarone - no, dualbooting with xp, installed 2 days ago
[08:55] <SAM_theman> go into sytem
[08:55] <funkyHat> shawarma, you need to be registered and identified in order to pm
[08:56] <SAM_theman> and go to prefrense
[08:56] <SAM_theman> strry for my english
[08:56] <funkyHat> eh... sorry shawarma, wrong autocomplete
[08:56] <DarkMan> pashaw  u there ?
[08:56] <SAM_theman> eating soup
[08:56] <qgil> hello, ubunter@s: once I've created another user, how can I have access to her home folder? Is it a way of doing it without the console, via desktop?
[08:56] <TD-Linux> hmm.... 2.6.15 is supposed to have SATA ATAPI, but it still dosen't work with my CD drive...
[08:56] <necroreaper1031> need help with a wine install
[08:56] <funkyHat> Sh4d0x, you need to be registered and identified in order to pm
[08:56] <SAM_theman> then go to sesions
[08:57] <pashaw> DarkMan,   ??
[08:57] <eruin> TD-Linux, not sure the installer has much to do with the actual installed kernel though
[08:57] <TD-Linux> When I try to run the preinstalled live system, it can't find my CD-ROM
[08:57] <Sh4d0x> fuckyhat, thnx i'm allready trying :D
[08:57] <TD-Linux> drive
[08:57] <DarkMan> i tried it  , but then it  stops  in the  beginning  at etc/usb.rc
[08:57] <funkyHat> Sh4d0x, lol, /msg nickserv help
[08:57] <eruin> TD-Linux, I think you should send off a mail to the ubuntu-users list
[08:58] <TD-Linux> ok
[08:58] <funkyHat> Sh4d0x, in case you didn't already know :P
[08:58] <Sh4d0x> funkyhat :D uhu but still my english isn't that good, it needs a while ;)
[08:58] <joe_> ubuntu isnt recognizing my onboard sound card, Dell Optipled GX1 P3 550 128
[08:58] <joe_> er Optiplex
[08:58] <joe_> hopeless?
[08:59] <jennhi> Sh4d0x, it's requiring xine-lib and xine-d5d, which aren't available from apt-get and I can't compile them for some reason.
[09:00] <pashaw> DarkMan,  installer got farther then before?
[09:00] <qgil> about accessing other users' folders, I have tried to find the answer http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch06.html but couldn't find it - must be easy
[09:00] <Sh4d0x> jennhi maybe you can found them on the web and try to install them manually
[09:00] <necroreaper1031> need help with a wine install
[09:00] <Kurt> does ubuntu use retarded names for IDE devices in /dev?
[09:01] <Kurt> a friend of mine's trying to mount his Windows hard drive in Ubuntu and he's having trouble figuring out where it is
[09:01] <pashaw> Kurt,   yeah  hda  hdb
[09:01] <DarkMan> no, stopped  earlier
[09:01] <jennhi> sh4d0x, yes, that's what I'm trying to do but they won't compile.
[09:01] <Kurt> those aren't retarded names, though
[09:02] <Kurt> those are the standard ones
[09:02] <Sh4d0x> jennhi, hmm let me give it a try
[09:02] <pashaw> DarkMan,   what make model laptop right?
[09:02] <Kurt> and he says he doesn't have those
[09:02] <Kurt> at least, not in /dev
[09:02] <pashaw> Kurt,   i know  :P
[09:02] <Kurt> are they somewhere else?
[09:02] <DarkMan> not laptop , its a  desktop ,  amd 400 Mhz
[09:02] <SAM_theman> heres how my gnome looks like
[09:02] <SAM_theman> www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[09:02] <nick01> where should I put a nat script ?
[09:02] <pashaw> Kurt,    have him type    fdisk -l  <- L    in terminal
[09:02] <alexissoft> khi
[09:02] <nick01> to be used at startup
[09:03] <knoppix> hey people... got a big problem
[09:03] <knoppix> somehow i managed to get a nasty little virus that has killed my ubuntu and windows disks
[09:03] <knoppix> screwed up the grub loader and all
[09:04] <necroreaper1031> need help with a wine install
[09:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell knoppix about recover
[09:04] <kyncani> SAM_theman: your desktop does rock :)
[09:04] <knoppix> if i use the recover mode will i be able to possibly save my windows disk too?
[09:04] <SAM_theman> thanks
[09:05] <SAM_theman> i am working on Kubuntu right now to make it look like this
[09:05] <SAM_theman> http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/27046-1.jpg
[09:05] <kyncani> SAM_theman: well, this one is too confusing to me :)
[09:05] <knoppix> is it possible to save the disk?
[09:06] <knoppix> and does anyone know a good scanner?
[09:06] <nalioth> knoppix: you were sent a PM by ubotu
[09:06] <knoppix> what is the command to rewrite the grub?
[09:06] <nalioth> knoppix: use clamAV
[09:07] <mwill> I have a function (fn) key on my keyboard. Would it be possible to map that key to the control key?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis>  necroreaper1031  more details would help.
[09:07] <knoppix> ok
[09:07] <knoppix> thanks
[09:07] <knoppix> brb and will let you know how it worked out
[09:08] <freenik> re
[09:08] <necroreaper1031> sorry
[09:08] <pashaw> DarkMan,   lets disable all the fancy stuff    try  boot: linux acpi=off noapic nolapic no387
[09:08] <freenik> iwconfig sagt: "Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 19
[09:08] <freenik> of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 18.
[09:08] <freenik> Some things may be broken...
[09:08] <freenik> " - wie krieg ich ne neuere version von den wireless-tools drauf?
[09:08] <HymnToLife> !de
[09:08] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:08] <necroreaper1031> im trying to install wine on kubuntu and when i go through synaptic it only has wine-doc
[09:09] <lowman62> does anyone know of a fix to mount a lexar jumpdrive in breezy?
[09:09] <freenik> ups :x
[09:09] <Dr_Willis>  necroreaper1031  check ubuntu wiki and forums yet?
[09:09] <necroreaper1031> yep
[09:10] <Dr_Willis>  apt-cache search wine --> shows it on mine.
[09:10] <DarkMan> oke  will try that   pashaw
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> your repos are proberly not all set right.
[09:11] <eztar> Can i install the kubuntu packages of KDE in Ubuntu_
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> eztar,  yes
[09:11] <necroreaper1031> i put that in all it shows is wine-doc
[09:11] <eztar> Nice thanks :)
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> eztar,  i do it all the time.
[09:12] <Evil_Whisper> hi guys
[09:12] <eztar> Hey Evil_Whisper
[09:12] <Evil_Whisper> sorry about freaking out about my xserver lol :P I got it fixed
[09:13] <Evil_Whisper> :-) just re-installed cause I have a seperate /home partition :-\
[09:13] <Evil_Whisper> But why would a live CD break my install's xorg?
[09:14] <hume> when ssh-ing to another computer in a Konsole window, i get character encoding failures (characters displayd wrongly) - how do I set this?  both computers use utf-8 as locale
[09:14] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,   try it again   maybe its a bug
[09:14] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[09:15] <SAM_theman> umm guys whats the package for all the compiling packages for KDE
[09:15] <necroreaper1031> apt-cache search wine grants wine-doc zope-cmgfworkflow tellico
[09:15] <Evil_Whisper> You want kde?
[09:15] <Evil_Whisper> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for KDE
[09:15] <SAM_theman> sudo apt-get install "lm-qt...".
[09:16] <SAM_theman> nono the compiling package
[09:16] <Evil_Whisper> oh let me have a look I'll see if i can find it
[09:16] <Evil_Whisper> libqt3-mt-dev?
[09:17] <Evil_Whisper> is that it SAM?
[09:17] <necroreaper1031> um
[09:17] <SAM_theman> YEs
[09:17] <SAM_theman> i think :D
[09:17] <Evil_Whisper> k
[09:18] <Evil_Whisper> Are there any benifits(SP?) compiling firefox from source rather then the mozilla.com binary?
[09:19] <kyncani> Evil_Whisper: if you want firefox, methinks you should just apt-get it. It's simple and it works
[09:19] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,   pride, happy feelings  ?
[09:19] <Xmasmoo> Evil_Whisper: pain of typing manual commands
[09:19] <La_PaRCa> !gmake
[09:19] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: I don't know
[09:19] <raj> Hi, I have a strange problem using nxclient. I installed and configured nxserver on a fedora box and later installed nxclient on the Ubuntu box. I tried to access the desktop. I was able to go as far as Authentication. "Authentication completed" and then it just sits there and times out..i don't see any desktop. Any suggestions????
[09:19] <La_PaRCa> In what package would I find gmake?
[09:19] <rockinchado> ok     i'm trying to use make to install the rt2500 module  but i get this error *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[09:20] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,    thats why i never fell into the Gentoo boat  not into compiling anything more than a kernel or two
[09:20] <Evil_Whisper> So it wont really have any effects on performance?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  hmm that module is allready on my system.
[09:20] <raj> Anyone had success with nxserver???
[09:21] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, hrm...was it just already insalled?
[09:21] <rinzai-shu> La_PaRCa: oddly enough, the package is "make" ;-)
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  its on my new install (well a month old)
[09:21] <eztar> Dr_Willis, When i've added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to sources.list then what do i do?
[09:21] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,   we cant say yes or no  we dont know what things you would enable or disable
[09:21] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, haha i just installed the new one last night  dangit
[09:22] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, you know how i could install that module
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> eztar,  the kubuntu homepage - has the exact docs on how to install it. I think that added deb was for the beta.
[09:22] <La_PaRCa> rinzai-shu, um, I have an install script asking for gmake... and make provides make
[09:22] <eZtaR> Thanks Dr_Willis
[09:22] <eZtaR> :)
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  i never installed it that i know of. :P that machine dosent even have wireless.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> rock using the kernel -->  2.6.12-10-386  here..
[09:22] <_RocH> are ubuntu / kubuntu 100% equal , besides window manager ?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> so it may of got put in there.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> _RocH,  id stick with ubuntu, then apt-get install the kde stuff.
[09:23] <pashaw> _RocH, i agree   with Doc
[09:23] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, so i need to install that kernel?
[09:23] <necroreaper1031> anyone?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  well as far as i know - its just the latest kernel.  there may be newer now.
[09:24] <eZtaR> Dr_Willis, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php ?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  try 'locate rt2500'
[09:24] <rinzai-shu> La_PaRCa: from dpkg -l | grep make:   make                                   3.80-9                                   The GNU version of the "make" utility.
[09:24] <rinzai-shu> La_PaRCa: note the "GNU" there... i.e. gmake ;-)
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> eZtaR,  the kde beta   has a few issues also.. may be beter to just stick with the 3.4 or Whatever is the stable.
[09:24] <shwag> anyone know of some software to go through an organize all my mp3s into folders?
[09:25] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, is this right /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500
[09:25] <rockinchado> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500/rt2500.ko
[09:25] <La_PaRCa> rinzai-shu, yeah, nevermind... had to change the script to change the check for gmake to plain make
[09:26] <holycow> hey guys, i want to run the command 'grub' restricted to /media/usbdisk.  i can just do sudo chrootuid /media/usbdisk correct?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  thats the one i got.
[09:26] <holycow> when i try sudo chroot /media/usbdisk it says 'permission denied'
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  try modprobe rt2500
[09:26] <_RocH> so I do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" , that's it ? :>
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> _RocH,  thats the normal way of doing it.
[09:26] <rinzai-shu> La_PaRCa: yes, you're obviously compiling something that was made for many platforms, and while commercial unices such as Solaris include a proprietary "make" most Linux distributions use gmake.  glad you got that all figured out. ;-)
[09:27] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis,  that gives me nothing
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  check dmesg output.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> if it worked = prints nothing :P
[09:27] <_RocH> Dr_Willis, what other methos would you advice ?
[09:27] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, haha it showed a ton a stuff lol
[09:27] <_RocH> *method
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  check the end.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> _RocH,  use that one. :p
[09:27] <rinzai-shu> _RocH: if you're trying to install KDE for Ubuntu (e.g. Kubuntu) then yep, that's it... ;-)
[09:28] <_RocH> TY very much :)
[09:28] <La_PaRCa> rinzai-shu, the problem was, in ubuntu, the make command is actually make, but the script was checking for "gmake"
[09:28] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, it shows [4300572.599000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[09:28] <rinzai-shu> La_PaRCa: i know
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  try just a litle above that line. it should mention the card.. of course the module may of allready been loaded.
[09:29] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, um above that is [4300572.458000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[09:29] <rockinchado> [4300572.599000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  try     lsmod | grep rt2500
[09:29] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, i get this rt2500                150372  0
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> rockinchado,  its loaded then
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> and NO i dont know how to configure your wireless.
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:30] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, it doesn't show up in networking though
[09:30] <rockinchado> Dr_Willis, you know how to do that lol
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> ive had such bad experioence with wireless.. i spent a weekend running wires a few mo ago.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> I think youve been running around in circles :P and now you reaize you got a different probblem. Lol.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> may want to check the wiki/forims for that exact card.
[09:32] <rockinchado> ha uh ok
[09:32] <skar> hi, anyone know how to run a gentoo vserver setup inside breezy?
[09:32] <lowman62> does anyone know how to mount a usb jumpdrive in breezy?
[09:33] <eZtaR> Dr_Willis, Will you give me a total idiots guide to installing KDE? :p My term keeps giving me errors i don't understand
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> eZtaR,  i was thinking the kubuntu homepage gave me the 2 commands i had to type.
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> eZtaR,  it was rather trivial.
[09:34] <eZtaR> Hehe link? :p
[09:34] <eZtaR> I added his key and the other command
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> amazeing whats on the wiki and the kubuntu homepage eh?
[09:35] <pashaw> eZtaR,  i added the universe multiverse repos    but otherwise   its apt-get update     then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <pashaw> eZtaR,   i havent tried it without the extra repos  but you prob dont need em
[09:36] <lowman62> does anyone know how to mount a usb jumpdrive in breezy?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  mine mounted fine.
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  you mean a little usb-128mb sort of usb-drive?
[09:36] <no0tic> In dapper's xorg, are damage & render extensions active by default?
[09:36] <_RocH> i had to do "mount /dev/sda"
[09:37] <_fredforfaen> does anybody herre know how i can get rox to automount and pop up a window when media is inserted?
[09:37] <lowman62> Dr_Willis: yes a lexar 128 mb usb
[09:37] <_fredforfaen> herre=here
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  could be your /etc/fstab is a little confused
[09:37] <lowman62> Dr_Willis: and how do I straighten it out?
[09:38] <SAM_theman> tell me if this pic makes you honry mostly for KDE user "kubuntu"
[09:38] <SAM_theman> http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/30012-1.jpg
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  id check the wiki and forums first.. if i ever had any problems with it - i proberly fixed them in all of 2 min and cant even rember what i did. :P
[09:38] <coder_> how do i install the i386 version of firefox from apt on x86_86
[09:38] <lowman62> alrighty then...of to wiki wiki...*poof*
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  try mountuing them from the shell and see what happens..  or are they mounting and only root can access them?
[09:39] <lowman62> i did
[09:39] <Tedd|1> Hi.
[09:39] <lowman62> no can do
[09:39] <silverton> SAM_theman, that looks really cool
[09:39] <DUNFreak> SAM_theman, I'll tell you what I think, it almost looks like a bad imitation of Windows Vista.
[09:39] <Tedd|1> Can anybody help me zip something?
[09:39] <SAM_theman> damn riht
[09:39] <Tedd|1> I'm trying to zip Final Fantasy Advent Children so I can put it on a disk.
[09:39] <DUNFreak> minus the brushed metal
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Tedd|1,  you mean a dvd? or movie or what?
[09:40] <Tedd|1> Dr_Willis: It's just an .avi file.
[09:40] <Tedd|1> Dr_Willis: I need to zip it so I can fit it on a CD.
[09:40] <HymnToLife> nyone knows the shortut to show the menubar in xchat ?
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Tedd|1,  you proberly are not going to get much compression out of it.
[09:40] <HymnToLife> I disabled it by accident
[09:40] <pashaw> Tedd|1,   video is already compressed   zipping it again wont do much   you could  break it into pieces
[09:41] <Tedd|1> OK.
[09:41] <Tedd|1> OK, I have no choice, I'll upload
[09:41] <Tedd|1> I still need to know how to zip it though
[09:41] <DUNFreak> Treve de plaisanteries, I need a bit of help. Whenever I'm mounting my FAT32 drives under ubuntu, they are always read-only to anyone other than root, and it's annoying the heck out of me. How do I make them read/write to the root group (my normal users are grouped to root)
[09:41] <coder_> i guess a better question, is how do i get flash setup on an x86_64 box?
[09:41] <HymnToLife> !fat32
[09:41] <ubotu> [fat32]  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:42] <DUNFreak> HymnToLife, what?
[09:42] <Tedd|1> Dr_Willis: I need to know how to zip to upload to my site. Don't care about bandwith. What is the command?
[09:42] <HymnToLife> DUNFreak > see the link ubotu gave
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Tedd|1,    try 'zip'
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:43] <DUNFreak> HymnToLife, look I dont want to be rude but I'm no programmer, I have no clue what I'm supposed to do with that.
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Why is it that wvdial has to be run with sudo?
[09:43] <DUNFreak> I'd much prefer a ubuntu guide or something on the web :P
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  use the umask, optiopns and perhaps the 'uid' and 'gid' options in the fstab.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> depending on your exact needs.
[09:44] <DUNFreak> *sigh*
[09:44] <DUNFreak> ok lemme try to figure that out
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> a mounted fat32 file system has all the permissions set at mount time. with those options.
[09:45] <eruin> synaptic upgrading synaptic is always interesting to watch
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> I forget which man pagte they are documented in. man fstab, or man mount, under the vfat filesystem section/options
[09:45] <paulproteus|lapt> General announcement: I'm going to make some screencasts of common Ubuntu tasks, like enabling Universe in Synaptic.
[09:45] <eruin> the audioscrobbler support in banshee is fantastic :)
[09:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Anyone have any suggestions for things to screencast, or some other projects I could synergize with?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  proberly covered in details in the wiki/forums also. :P but there may be a lot of hits/info/fluff
[09:45] <paulproteus|lapt> eruin: Same with AmaroK.
[09:46] <paulproteus|lapt> eruin: What does it do in banshee?
[09:46] <cmatheson> paulproteus|lapt: i know some of they ruby folks are using vnc2swf
[09:46] <stratovarius> how to play wmv files with vlc?
[09:46] <DjDarkman> hy ,i`m migrating from windows to ubuntu ,and i need a few alternatives ,can someone help me?
[09:46] <Xenguy> DjDarkman: just ask
[09:46] <cmatheson> !tell DjDarkman about anyone
[09:46] <eruin> paulproteus|lapt, same as in amarok I suspect - submitting your music ;)
[09:46] <DjDarkman> ok :)
[09:47] <stratovarius> cant someone help me?
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> !tell stratovarius about restrictedformats
[09:47] <DjDarkman> i need a file maneger program simmilar to total commander ,excludeing mc
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> DjDarkman,  'worker' 'gentoo' and a few otehrs.
[09:47] <Xenguy> DjDarkman: try krusader if your hardware if beefy
[09:47] <paulproteus|lapt> eruin: Oh, in amaroK it lets you have "dynamic playlists", so it dynamically gets suggestions from audioscrobbler and puts them at the end of your playlist.
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> paulproteus|lapt, Could you put a link to it in !taskscreencast or something so we can find them later?
[09:47] <cmatheson> DJ_Mirage: nautilus, gmc, rox-filer] 
[09:47] <paulproteus|lapt> !taskscreencast
[09:47] <ubotu> paulproteus|lapt: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:48] <DjDarkman> k let` seee them
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> DJ_Mirage,  check freshmeat.net for 'norton commander' clones also.
[09:48] <eruin> paulproteus|lapt, that's pretty cool!
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> Gotta love the classic 2 pane file maangers
[09:48] <DUNFreak> HymnToLife, Dr_Willis : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions :P
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> mc - is the defacto standards.
[09:48] <Xenguy> DjDarkman: krusader is the best if you have fast hardware
[09:48] <paulproteus|lapt> eruin: I know, totally rocking. :)
[09:48] <jacekP> DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY mouse arrow disappears in Blender?
[09:48] <eruin> paulproteus|lapt, AS support only arrived in banshee cvs proper yesterday or so. I think I'll suggest that functionality :)
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  :P ive hacked eniough to know how to do it - lol.
[09:49] <paulproteus|lapt> tonyyarusso: What's taskscreencast?
[09:49] <DUNFreak> Dr_Willis, just pointing it out, it's easier for a noob to read that just pointing to the winmac_fstab file ;)
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Do you know how to make suggestions to the development team?  (Sorry for the personal ask.)
[09:50] <Evil_Whisper> anyone compiled wine 0.9.4 yet?
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  i think the bot should msg all peoole to check the wiki/forums first..  befor even asking a Question. :P but thats mean.
[09:50] <paulproteus|lapt> Whoa, Wine 0.9.4 is out?
[09:50] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, that depends on the suggestion, feel free to PM me
[09:50] <Evil_Whisper> Yep wine 0.9.4 is out
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  also it pays to learn what you are doing - and not rely on a script .
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> paulproteus|lapt, Seemed like a possible name for a factoid about what you're doing.  Nothing yet.
[09:50] <paulproteus|lapt> tonyyarusso: Ah, I see.
[09:51] <Evil_Whisper> But the binaries are currently being built so you have to compile it yourself.
[09:51] <eZtaR> Anyone up for giving me a complete idiots guide to installing KDE?
[09:51] <DUNFreak> Dr_Willis, true. But i'm a poor MS slave that's used to DOS and Windows. Asking me to understand fstab is quite a learning curve.
[09:51] <gnomefreak_away> is hotplug needed?
[09:51] <Evil_Whisper> I'm getting errors I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
[09:51] <pashaw> eZtaR, i thought we finished this
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  throw off the chains of MS-Lemming-ZOmbie-hoood! and be free!
[09:52] <DUNFreak> hehe
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  it pays to learn the fundamentals of linux. then the rest is easy
[09:52] <eZtaR> pashaw, i thought i PMed you.. But now i've just registered my nick
[09:52] <pawel> has anyone ever played with a wacom tablet over a serial-usb adaptor?
[09:52] <pawel> on Ubuntu of course.
[09:52] <pashaw> eZtaR,  lol   ->  eZtaR,  i added the universe multiverse repos    but otherwise   its apt-get update     then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  then ya spend time figureing out what the disrto-makers did to make things 'idiot-friendly' thats then broke. :P
[09:53] <DUNFreak> Dr_Willis, do you have any idea why the "Disks Manager" just won't save the access path? everytime I change it to what I want (/media/data instead of /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hda5)) , it just doesn't save anything.
[09:53] <coder_> I need to add an entry to fstab that has a space in the shared directory name.  How can I do this?
[09:53] <pawel> or any wacom tablet user. ;)
[09:53] <hume> i installed mysql and phpmyadmin, but on pointing my browser to localhost/phpmyadmin it wants to download instad of running the php file - what to do?
[09:53] <coder_> do I singled quote the whole thing?
[09:53] <eZtaR> pashaw, it doesn't recognize apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  Hmm.. not sure.. i tend to disable all auto-mounting and mount them where i want. and be done with it.
[09:54] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: You need to enable the PHP module.
[09:54] <eZtaR> pashaw, as a command
[09:54] <paulproteus|lapt> a2enmod php4
[09:54] <coder_> hume: you need to setup apache to execute php files
[09:54] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: That's for you.
[09:54] <pashaw> eZtaR,   1 sec
[09:54] <DUNFreak> Darn.
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  also dont use spaces in the filenames/paths if ay can help it. Lol.
[09:54] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, sorry didnt get that....?
[09:54] <DUNFreak> Dr_Willis, that's Ubuntu's fault. :P
[09:54] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: sudo a2enmod php4
[09:54] <FlimFlamMan> is smbmount supposed to be run by a non-root user?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> DUNFreak,  i think its somthing to do with their automounter and the names from devfs not sure. :P i bypassed it.
[09:55] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/207
[09:55] <pashaw> eZtaR,   sorry i typo'd  i assumed a command in there            apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <Manny> hi
[09:55] <cmatheson> -+++-
[09:55] <DUNFreak> I'll go command-line then, mount -a ;)
[09:55] <Manny> any plans to incorporate slime/cl-swank?
[09:55] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, says that module does not exist...?
[09:55] <Manny> there are debian packages available
[09:55] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: See the debian-administration URL
[09:56] <mondi> is upgrading to dapper worth it? I mean at its current state?
[09:56] <Evil_Whisper> mondi i wouldnt upgrade yet
[09:56] <paulproteus|lapt> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/101 , too, hume
[09:57] <jenda> A little OT: I'm wondering. I would like to have 8 megs hosted somewhere, so that I can give people the URL (It's my own music). Does anyone know of a site that would host that with no fuss (something like an 8 meg pastebin would be what I'm looking for)
[09:57] <holycow> does ubuntu use grub stage 1.5 by any chance? just curious
[09:58] <eZtaR> pashaw, it asked me to do a   apt-get install -f so now it's downloading away :p
[09:58] <eZtaR> pashaw, It seems as if it's working :D
[09:58] <HymnToLife> jenda > www.yousendit.com
[09:58] <eZtaR> pashaw, Thanks a bundle dude :D
[09:59] <fractalmbrown> hello all
[09:59] <pashaw> eZtaR, cool  good luck
[09:59] <mondi> another question is there a way for me to export my toolbar from a gnome session to an xfce one?
[09:59] <jenda> HymnToLife: thanks again :)
[09:59] <fractalmbrown> is there a specific ubuntu support channel?
[09:59] <eZtaR> pashaw, Thanks :)
[09:59] <rockinchado> ok i've got a problem if i do modprobe rt2500    it shows nothing so its working fine but the ra0 doesn't show up when i do iwconfig             for my wireless card anyone help?
[09:59] <fractalmbrown> I need help setting up GRUB, and i'm having some boot issues
[09:59] <eZtaR> fractalmbrown, You're here
[09:59] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, sorry, dont really get it - where do I get the modules from? running a2enmod gives me "This module does not exist!"
[09:59] <fractalmbrown> ah, good
[09:59] <FlimFlamMan> how do i allow non-root users to mount their own smb shares with smbmount?
[09:59] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: apt-get install libapache2-php4
[10:00] <paulproteus|lapt> if I recall correctly.
[10:00] <fractalmbrown> eZtaR, do you know much about setting up a boot loader?
[10:00] <pashaw> jenda,   your own webpage at your isp    doesnt your isp include at least 10mb
[10:00] <eZtaR> fractalmbrown, not really.. But what do you need to set up?
[10:00] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, ah, well, that package does not exist, apt says....running breezy, just installed it
[10:01] <fractalmbrown> well, I have two harddrives: an 80 gig with two partitions, a 60 (boots into windows normally) and a 20 (extra space)
[10:01] <jenda> pashaw: it prolly does :) but I'm looking for something simpler. But that's where I will go if I do not find it.
[10:01] <fractalmbrown> the second harddrive is 250 gigs, with three partitions
[10:01] <fractalmbrown> 1.) a 160 for windows (NTFS)
[10:01] <fractalmbrown> 2.) a 89 for ubuntu
[10:01] <fractalmbrown> 3.) swap
[10:02] <fractalmbrown> I am trying to get GRUB to boot on my master (The 80 gig) and display two options, Ubuntu or Windows XP Home
[10:02] <waltz> If you have a non-native SCSI motherboard interface will Ubuntu not work?
[10:02] <fractalmbrown> however: when GRUB starts, I get an error 17
[10:02] <Evil_Whisper> anyone got a link to instructions on how to compile firefo?
[10:02] <Evil_Whisper> *firefox
[10:02] <fractalmbrown> and LILO only boots into a console
[10:02] <waltz> fractalmbrown: GRUB doesn't recognize Windows afaik.
[10:02] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, think I found it - but: is there a problem running php5 instead of php4?
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Evil_Whisper, You trying to install 1.5?
[10:02] <fractalmbrown> waltz: what do you recommend then?
[10:03] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: I have no experience with PHP5.
[10:03] <paulproteus|lapt> Is it packaged?
[10:03] <DUNFreak> Ok I don't get it. If I open nautilus as root, my "data" drive is chmodded to 777. If I try to open nautilus as my normal user, it sais it's 755. WTF???
[10:03] <pashaw> waltz,   huh?
[10:03] <waltz> I recommend you not use Windows.
[10:03] <waltz> ;)
[10:03] <fractalmbrown> lol, no can do
[10:03] <fractalmbrown> my brother uses this computer as well, so that's out of the question
[10:03] <waltz> aha
[10:03] <bobbyd> hi
[10:03] <fractalmbrown> I need a boot menu, not a single OS
[10:03] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   the basics now        did you move drives  from computer to comouter
[10:03] <fractalmbrown> no
[10:03] <fractalmbrown> I added the 250 as a slave
[10:03] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   you installed everything as is
[10:03] <eruin> grub can boot windows just fine
[10:04] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, as is meaning what?
[10:04] <waltz> shrug
[10:04] <no0tic> kopete in dapper doesn't import msn avatars
[10:04] <DarkMan> Pashaw, installing  at 79 % at the moment  , first time  it came sofar
[10:04] <eruin> in fact, ubuntu sets up a grub menu item for windows if it detects an installed instance of it
[10:04] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,  your broken post was confusing
[10:04] <pashaw> DarkMan,   great to hear
[10:04] <DarkMan> and  still going
[10:04] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, I meant to say: what do you mean by "installed everything as is"?
[10:05] <DarkMan> hehehe :)
[10:05] <pashaw> fractalmbrown, im trying to understand  whats broken, why and  where your trying to go  your     mulitplpe posts didnt help
[10:05] <fractalmbrown> oh
[10:05] <fractalmbrown> my boot loader won't load, basically
[10:05] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,    ok so you had a working system then added a drive?
[10:06] <fractalmbrown> yes, and I successfully formatted a 160GB partition for NTFS
[10:06] <fractalmbrown> windows recognized it fine
[10:06] <fractalmbrown> then i tried to install ubuntu into the free space that was left
[10:06] <sudo_smartass> ok
[10:06] <sudo_smartass> well... the recovering thing didn't work... had to completely reinstall linux
[10:07] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   ubuntu onto a drive  thats jumpered as slave now and not master?
[10:07] <nadya> Hi. How do I update kde?
[10:07] <fractalmbrown> yes, because I have no unformatted space on my master drive
[10:07] <_fredforfaen> does anybody know how to make rox automount and open a window with the files when media is inserted?
[10:07] <fractalmbrown> as far as I know, any drive should be able to be booted from
[10:08] <eZtaR> How do i get ubuntu to automatically mount my windows-partitions?
[10:08] <nadya> I followed the instructions on the website, which command do I have to execute that he fetches the packages and install them?
[10:08] <sudo_smartass> ok
[10:08] <_fredforfaen> !rox
[10:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, _fredforfaen
[10:08] <nick01> what's the name of that package with gcc ?
[10:08] <sudo_smartass> how do i mount things again?
[10:08] <waltz> YouBoonToo! :x
[10:08] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,  so you start the installer and it all loads correctly?
[10:08] <fractalmbrown> yes
[10:08] <nick01> something with utils
[10:08] <Kyral> sudo_smartass: mount <mountpoint>
[10:08] <varsendagger>  sudo_smartass mount /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever
[10:09] <fractalmbrown> everything works perfectly until I try to boot from IDE0
[10:09] <_fredforfaen> anyone?
[10:09] <waltz> If you have a non-native SCSI motherboard interface i.e., you're using an IDE adapter card, will the Linux 2.6.x series kernel function properly?
[10:09] <nick01> how do I install gcc make and the rest ?
[10:09] <Kyral> nick01: sudo apt-get install build-essiential
[10:09] <nick01> tks
[10:09] <Kyral> and if it doesn't work I misspelled it
[10:09] <sudo_smartass> ahh
[10:09] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   you allowed it to install grub right?
[10:09] <fractalmbrown> yes
[10:09] <tractica> hi
[10:10] <waltz> Can someone please answer my question? It's somewhat important.
[10:10] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   but you said your getting a lilo prompt
[10:10] <sudo_smartass> it said mount point doesn't exist
[10:10] <sudo_smartass> ....
[10:10] <fractalmbrown> only if I boot from IDE1 (it was an experiment to see if LILO worked)
[10:10] <DjDarkman> i need an irc client simmilar to mirc
[10:10] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, IDE0 contains GRUB, IDE1 contains LILO
[10:10] <sudo_smartass> dj... ur using one
[10:10] <DjDarkman> please tell me some
[10:10] <tractica> does anybody use Beagle ?
[10:10] <DarkMan> pashaw, oke,  now  it crashed at  copy packages , because it says u may run out of disk space in the target /var filesystem.
[10:11] <waltz> Can someone please answer my question? It's somewhat important.
[10:11] <DjDarkman> sudo_smartass, but i need one simmilar to mirc ,x chat is not what i`m lookig 4
[10:11] <waltz> If you have a non-native SCSI motherboard interface i.e., you're using an IDE adapter card, will the Linux 2.6.x series kernel function properly?
[10:11] <DarkMan> how  can i read  the  syslog  at this  point ??
[10:11] <pashaw> DarkMan,    thats the 3.2G drive right
[10:11] <DarkMan> yeah
[10:11] <jenda> waltz: I don't see a reason why it shouldn't... but there is obviously no one around that REALLY knows :(
[10:11] <pashaw> DarkMan,   bummer      it needed  too much space for install
[10:12] <DarkMan> i'm now  back in main menu
[10:12] <waltz> jenda: aha, okay, thanks
[10:12] <DarkMan> yeah thought  so
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> jenda
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> lol
[10:12] <pashaw> DarkMan,    1 sec
[10:12] <DarkMan> oke
[10:12] <jenda> sudo_smartass: not funny :)
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> know anything about recovering from a virus?
[10:12] <MrRio> anyway of making java look like GTK2?
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> why not?
[10:12] <DjDarkman> ok ,then i ask in another way ,please write me a list of all available irc clinets 4 ubuntu
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> i think its funny
[10:12] <nadya> I JUST WANT TO UPDATE KDE?!
[10:12] <sudo_smartass> well cept for the virus thing... that sucks
[10:12] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, still got problems.....a2enmod php4 now says "already enabled" but still phpmyadmin wont show....got any more advice?
[10:13] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, you there?
[10:13] <pashaw> fractalmbrown,   easy skipper  thinking
[10:13] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, that's fine :)
[10:13] <sudo_smartass> how am i supposed to get stuff mounted... fstab and mtab say its mounted but i cant see them
[10:13] <DarkMan> found  this  on internet right now ,  mayby  this  the solution ?
[10:13] <sudo_smartass> cant get to them nothing
[10:13] <DarkMan> If you don't have yet an Xubuntu CD and you still want to install it (and install it fast), here is a step-by-step tutorial showing how is easy to get an Xubuntu box up and running.
[10:13] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: Did you restart Apache2 yet?
[10:13] <sudo_smartass> i cant even cd /media
[10:14] <sudo_smartass> tells me permission denied
[10:14] <fluvvell> hi all, just got a new wireless AP and went to connect, old system worked fine.  Fine without encryption, useless at getting wep to go some sucess with WPA-PSK however the link goes on and off in a 2 second cycle!
[10:14] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, yes, twice
[10:14] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, is there any way to edit GRUB's boot script/whatever...? I can't get into the so-called menu by pressing ESC as far as I can tell
[10:14] <fluvvell> using ipw2200 driver
[10:14] <paulproteus|lapt> hume: Hmm.
[10:14] <paulproteus|lapt> fractalmbrown: /boot/grub/menu.lst , iirc
[10:14] <fluvvell> anybody know about wpa_supplicant and which setting to change to stop the flip-flop
[10:15] <sudo_smartass> hey what is the fstab program thing again
[10:15] <fractalmbrown> paulproteus|lapt, what do you mean?
[10:16] <MrRio> how do i change the root user theme?
[10:16] <sudo_smartass> how did u get it to log you in as root?
[10:16] <Discipulus> System -> Preferences
[10:17] <Discipulus> sudo_smartass, it ain't hard
[10:17] <jpjacobs> just don't do it...
[10:17] <MrRio> MrRio: i mean for things like sudo synaptic
[10:17] <MrRio> it uses a different theme for that app
[10:17] <vodnik> let's just suppose - i have got linux installed on one partition and i have got one partition about the same size unused. what would happen, if I moved all the files from the partition with linux to the free partition?
[10:18] <MrRio> because ive changed my theme
[10:18] <MrRio> sudo gnome-theme-manager has no effect
[10:18] <fractalmbrown> paulproteus|lapt, I am currently in the Live CD of ubuntu, is it safe for me to enable access to the Extended 3 partition on my slave drive? (It was formatted by the Ubuntu install)
[10:18] <hume> paulproteus|lapt, what i've done is to run the asenmod php4 and then restart apache2 and restart my browser -- is there any other setting or package to deal with?
[10:18] <vodnik> or, rather - is it possible to kind of "back-up" installed system by just copying all its files to an external harddrive?
[10:19] <mz111> is there a menu editor that allows multiple menu items to be selected and moved?
[10:19] <tom> why does ddcprobe say "edidfail" at the end?
[10:19] <pashaw> DarkMan,   did you break the drive into partitons?  what sizes?
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> vodnik: You'd have to tell your bootloader how if you wanted  to boot into it, but otherwise it should work theoretically.  Oh, and make sure the other partition is the same filesystem type.
[10:19] <mjr> vodnik, yes; you'd need to reconfigure grub a bit (and the fstab) if you were going to boot it from there, though
[10:20] <Evil_Whisper> :(
[10:20] <DarkMan> chips,  i have  to  look at it ,lol   i used  aut  partition  hehehe,
[10:20] <Evil_Whisper> How do you remove menu entries?
[10:20] <Evil_Whisper> the delete option is always grey and you cant click it
[10:20] <DarkMan> will have a look
[10:20] <pramz> Does the version of samba included with Breezy support ldap backend ?
[10:21] <vodnik> good, i hoped it would be like that, have some experience with grub already...
[10:21] <mz111> does anyone else think the menu editor is awfull
[10:22] <Afief> My notebook has no floppy, how can i dual boot Ubuntu and WinXP anyway?
[10:22] <mz111> Afief: it will install a os picking boot loader on your hard disk
[10:23] <Afief> I had GRUB on my hard disk, but it didn't ask me about it when i installed
[10:23] <vodnik> one question to the grub though - where is it installed on a disk with more partitions? i would guess it will be somewhere at the beggining of harddrive, but I think I have once already maanged to delete it somehow when doing something with completely different partitions:-/
[10:24] <mz111> Afief: it probably installed a new copy of grub?
[10:24] <funkyHat> mz111, no, I think the menu editor is fine
[10:24] <holycow> guys, would anyone know how much of the original drive i haveto dd to make sure i grabbed grub stage 1.5?
[10:24] <mz111> funkyHat: it really sucks not being able to make multiple selections
[10:24] <mrkoje> vodnik,  wouldn't the bootloader be intalled in the hda0 (/boot) partition?
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> !info pymedia
[10:26] <djm62> holycow: is that still in 1.44mb?
[10:26] <DarkMan> arggg, i used  partion resizer to find out what size , and  now  system system  hangs
[10:26] <adrakoa> hi
[10:26] <DarkMan> lo
[10:26] <holycow> djm62, no i'm trying to back up an hd and restore it to another hd
[10:27] <MrRio> the trash button wont show my trash, but /home/rio/.Trash/ will
[10:27] <MrRio> any ideas?
[10:27] <adrakoa> i have a problem with sudo to write root passwd.. the message after sudo -> sudo: unable to lookup debian via gethostbyname() ... I don't know the passwd root... help
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> VNC question: Can you give someone the ability to browse your system, but not do anything potentially destructive, just to see what stuff's like?
[10:27] <vodnik> mrkoje - yes, it says it installs itself there... but it keeps data about the installed os on the partitions they are installed in, doesnot it? since there is a boot directory with lot of grub stuff
[10:27] <pashaw> DarkMan,  you did delete the entire drive righ?
[10:28] <Kyral> vodnik: if they login as a user that only has Read permissions
[10:28] <skon> tonyyarusso: just don't check the option that says "allow someone to control my com[puter"
[10:28] <DarkMan> yeah  when i  start  with the instalation
[10:28] <Kyral> whoops
[10:28] <Kyral> I means tonyyarusso not vodnik
[10:29] <Daemonic> hmm, is there an easy way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> Thanks skon and Kyral.
[10:29] <MrRio> Daemonic, yes, let me get u the link
[10:29] <pashaw> DarkMan,   try those boot commands again   but this time  manual partition  erase EVERYTHING  so its 1 pile of empty  add say 400-500mb swap  the rest ext3 mounted /
[10:29] <Kyral> I seriously have to come up with a sed statement to do that
[10:30] <pashaw> DarkMan,  how much ram does that system have?
[10:30] <DarkMan> 128 mb
[10:30] <pashaw> DarkMan,  try 400mb
[10:30] <Daemonic> MrRio: I run x64 btw. If that makes a difference.
[10:30] <fractalmbrown> pashaw, is there any way to access /boot/grub/menu.lst ? I can't figure out how to change the way that GRUB could load the partitions
[10:30] <MrRio> Daemonic: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:31] <MrRio> Daemonic: shouldnt do
[10:31] <_RocH> cya
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, sudo pico will work just fine, if I understand what you're trying to do.
[10:31] <DarkMan> oke  for  good  understandnes  ,  i  use  400 mb for  swap  and  the rest  for ext3  , right ?
[10:31] <Daemonic> MrRio: shouldn't do?
[10:31] <Daemonic> MrRio: ..and thanks for the link
[10:31] <lightbright> how do I update xchat from 2.4.4 to the latest version?
[10:31] <Fred> lol
[10:32] <Fred> oops
[10:32] <MrRio> Daemonic: lol, yeah  i mean, not that im aware of, but u may want to check
[10:32] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, where would I find sudo pico?
[10:32] <fractalmbrown> and install it for that matter?
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> lightbright, Probably apt-get install xchat.
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Are you working with a default installation, or something special?
[10:33] <pashaw> tonyyarusso,  special
[10:33] <lightbright> tonyyarusso: is your real name Tony?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> lightbright, Yes.
[10:33] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I'm unsure. I have a windows partition on IDE0, and a Ubuntu partition on IDE1
[10:34] <hume> trying to remove phpmyadmin i get error msgs from apt: /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[10:34] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, IDE0 is a master and IDE1 is a slave
[10:34] <hume> anyone got advice?
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, sudo and pico are separate commands, both programs available with apt.
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I mean how did Ubuntu get on the system?
[10:34] <lightbright> tonyyarusso: great name
[10:34] <lightbright> tonyyarusso: whats pico do?
[10:34] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I installed it from the install disc, using the default install
[10:35] <pashaw> fractalmbrown, i always keep my setups cleaner     i was trying to google anyone with a layout like yours
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, You can check whether you have them by just trying to run sudo pico, and seeing if it spits out an error.
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> lightbright, It's a text-editor, I found it easier than vi.
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Then you should already have both of those.
[10:35] <pashaw> tonyyarusso,  fractal  has grub  and lilo  and both are broken after he added his new drive
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> pashaw: Interesting.  Why both?
[10:36] <hume> anyone knows how to solv problem with removing packages?
[10:36] <pashaw> tonyyarusso,   thats why he has me stumped'
[10:36] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, keep in mind I know nothing about linux. I am lost as to what this "sudo pico" is
[10:36] <pashaw> tonyyarusso, im not sure why they both sorta work
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Right.  No problem.  sudo is "Superuser Do", needed since the grub configuration file is not editable by a normal user.  pico is a text editor to open that file up.
[10:37] <pashaw> DarkMan,   sorry missed your post      yes
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Any particular reason you have grub and lilo at the same time?
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> pashaw: Do we know which one's on the MBR?
[10:38] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I had tried installing Lilo as the booter for my slave drive to see if it would work. It didn't. It can't load things and boots into some console
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, So, sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst says "Open up the grub menu file in a text editor with writing priviledges.
[10:39] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, where do i type sudo pico?
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, so then you tried putting grub on to see if that was any better?
[10:40] <Mitja> I've install apache and php but instead of showing results of a php file it wants to download it? How do I correct this?
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, In a command line, wherever you can access it.
[10:40] <rikai> hm... someone using one of my computers accidentally installed kubuntu-desktop, any easy way to remove all it and all its dependencies? apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop jsut removes that package, not all the ones it installed.
[10:40] <DarkMan> oke  pashaw  , no problem   hehehe  , i have all the time  , already  4 days  busy to get it on that  system ,lol
[10:40] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, no, grub was on initially, but lilo was installed afterwards
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Can you boot anything?  Otherwise this would involve a Live CD.  (I wasn't following the beginning of your problem.)
[10:40] <DarkMan> all help  i like  hehehe
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Okay.
[10:40] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I am using the live cd to chat with you right now.
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Perfect.
[10:41] <Fred> Mitja: you need to enable the php module... try "a2enmod" in ssh/bash
[10:41] <dfd> hello
[10:41] <dfd> does ubuntu uses the same debian repositories?
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I use grub, so I think we'll try to work that out since I don't know much about lilo.
[10:41] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, ok.
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> dfd: No.
[10:41] <lightbright> tonyyarusso: vi is rather simple though
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> dfd: It has all of its own.
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> lightbright, That may be true, just not my flavor I guess.
[10:42] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I don't think I can access anything other than my IDE1's swap partition
[10:42] <dfd> I see
[10:42] <dfd> thanks
[10:42] <und> ubuntu is awesome
[10:42] <XiCillin> agreed
[10:42] <jenda> und: you got that right
[10:42] <lightbright> tonyyarusso: a text editor is just a text editor :P
[10:43] <lightbright> und: what do you like about it?
[10:43] <hume> anyone knows how to handle apt errors on removing packages? cant install and not remove....
[10:43] <Mitja> Fred: still the same, module enabled now...
[10:43] <Fred> Mitja, did you /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload ?
[10:43] <lightbright> hume: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:43] <und> lightbright, its a good Os for someone like me (i do code a lot)
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, You're going to need to access to /boot to deal with grub, so let's try to get that.
[10:43] <Mitja> Fred: yes
[10:43] <lightbright> und: what type of code?
[10:44] <und> c++, python
[10:44] <stratovarius> hey how to play wmv file with wmv?
[10:44] <lightbright> und: so what linux c++ compiler you using now?
[10:44] <stratovarius> *with vlc sorry
[10:44] <und> g++ ...
[10:44] <Evil_Whisper> how do I make my fonts look smooth and stuff for my QT applications like they are in gnome?
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows for steps for getting access to the disk in your live environment.
[10:44] <Fred> Mitja, check your pm ;)
[10:44] <lightbright> stratovarius: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[10:44] <khalil3664> i got my game installed but when i double click on it screen goes black , refreshes and comes back to ubuntu , Any one can help ?
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, fdisk or cfdisk will give you information about the disks you have.
[10:45] <lightbright> und: where can I see your work?
[10:45] <hume> lightbright, you mean for me to paste the error there?
[10:45] <herrpoons> hi can someone help to change from GNOME to fluxbox?
[10:45] <herrpoons> what would the best way to go aobut it be?
[10:45] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, does it matter that Ubuntu was installed after windows as opposed to vice versa?
[10:45] <hume> herrpoons, install fluxbox, and it will appear in the session menu in gdm
[10:45] <lightbright> hume: no, use that sources.list
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, The terminal emulator is in the same menu as normally on the Live session, Applications > Accessories > Terminal (for Breezy).
[10:45] <herrpoons> right so
[10:46] <herrpoons> thanks
[10:46] <herrpoons> ill try that now :)
[10:46] <lightbright> und: where can I see your work and application that you have created with c++?
[10:46] <hume> lightbright, well...still i got a broken package on my system and cannot get it removed....or?
[10:46] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, terminal is started
[10:46] <stratovarius> lightbright, I have already done that steps
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Not for this part.  Only go through the "Before you begin" and "Preparing your working environment" sections for now.
[10:46] <und> it's on my pc
[10:46] <stratovarius> but I cant play a wmv in a preview mode with amule
[10:47] <lightbright> stratovarius: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[10:47] <lightbright> hume: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:47] <lightbright> hume: use that sources.list!  then do apt-get update
[10:47] <khalil3664> i got my game installed but when i double click on it screen goes black , refreshes and comes back to ubuntu , Any one can help ?
[10:47] <stratovarius> lightbright, I tokld you I've already done that steps
[10:47] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, ok, i'm in the root dir
[10:47] <stratovarius> *those
[10:47] <lightbright> stratovarius: well do them EXACTLY as is, because i did and it works for me
[10:48] <lightbright> stratovarius: whenever it doesnt work , it means someone missed a step
[10:48] <lightbright> stratovarius: you installed w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb?
[10:48] <stratovarius> lightbright, I can play every kind of video file but no wmv
[10:48] <stratovarius> lightbright, yes I did
[10:49] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, what "hda#" should I use for mounting it?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, If you do all of those two sections correctly, and chose the right devices, you should be able to browse everything on your disks as you would expect them.
[10:49] <lightbright> stratovarius: whenever it doesnt work , it means someone missed a step!  because it works for me and others
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, That's where fdisk comes in.
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Do fdisk -l hda
[10:50] <dailyrorschach> hey, after downloading a theme for gnome, where do I need to extract it and how do i install it/
[10:50] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it didn't do anything
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Ideally, you can tell which disk is which by their size; it's a bit tricky if they're the same.
[10:50] <fractalmbrown> if I type fdisk -l it gives me a list though
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Uh, really?
[10:50] <Kyral> dailyrorschach: just go to the Theme chooser thing and select Install Theme, then select the tarball from the filebrowser
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Okay, what's on the list?
[10:51] <dailyrorschach> Kyral: thanks, I was trying to select the file outside of the tarball
[10:51] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, sda1 which is my removable flash disk
[10:51] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, as well as...
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Oh, right, my fault.
[10:51] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, hda which is my master and hdb which is my slave
[10:52] <fractalmbrown> /dev/hda1   *           1        7383    59303916    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:52] <fractalmbrown> is that the one I want?
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, So the grub menu we want at is on the master, right?
[10:52] <fractalmbrown> yup
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, NTFS?  Is grub installed under Windows?
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, What other partitions are on hda?
[10:53] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it is installed on the C:\ partition, corret
[10:53] <fractalmbrown> *correct
[10:53] <fractalmbrown> um
[10:53] <fractalmbrown> hda1, hda2, hda5
[10:54] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I'll msg it to you
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Oy.  Okay.
[10:54] <Malachi> Hello? Question.
[10:54] <slide> Is there any kind of extension for thunderbird that removes the taskbar button and replaces it with a systray icon instead?
[10:55] <dailyrorschach> does anyone have a dell latitude d600, the system says I'm running 1280 x 768, but it looks like 800 x 600
[10:55] <Hobbsee> slide: moztraybiff - which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <lightbright> slide: you can write one
[10:55] <ph8> hello all, i've managed to botch some of my /etc file permissions with a liberal chmod - now (assuming this is related) I can't open gnomes user and group manager - any ideas how i can get all my perms corrected?
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it won't let me pm you lol
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> just a sec
[10:55] <slide> Hobbsee, , 5.10
[10:55] <Malachi> I can't run anything under the System-->Administration menu
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso /dev/hda1   *           1        7383    59303916    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso /dev/hda2            7384        9729    18844245    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[10:55] <slide> lightbright, yea i could, but ive got enough code to write atm heh
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso /dev/hda5            7384        9729    18844213+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:55] <fractalmbrown> those are my hda partitions
[10:55] <Kyral> Malachi: it would help if you said what the error was
[10:55] <lightbright> slide: :)
[10:55] <Hobbsee> slide: http://moztraybiff.mozdev.org/
[10:55] <Malachi> There isn't one.
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I wasn't identified.  Am now.
[10:56] <fractalmbrown> I don't know what the W95 Ext'd (LBA) is
[10:56] <slide> Hobbsee, thanks :)
[10:56] <Malachi> When I click a command under the menu, nothing happens.
[10:56] <Hobbsee> slide: although i dont think that will install under 5.10, it did under 5.04.  I have a compiled version for 5.10 that works, that i could send to you if you want
[10:56] <Kyral> Malachi: no password box comes up?
[10:56] <Malachi> No.
[10:56] <Malachi> Nothing.
[10:56] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I posted the partitions if you didn't notice. :)
[10:56] <slide> Hobbsee, yea thatd be great
[10:56] <Kyral> Malachi: does sudo work?
[10:56] <Malachi> Yes.
[10:56] <XiCillin> is there a way to bind the 'windows' key to pull down the applications menu on gnome?
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Saw them.
[10:57] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, ok
[10:57] <Kyral> Malachi: is the root account enabled?
[10:57] <Malachi> Yes.
[10:57] <Kyral> Malachi: that could be it
[10:57] <rikai> hm... someone using one of my computers accidentally installed kubuntu-desktop, any easy way to remove all it and all its dependencies? apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop jsut removes that package, not all the ones it installed.
[10:57] <Malachi> Ah.
[10:57] <Malachi> Do I have to disable it?
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I'm pondering, as I'm not familiar with grub being under Windows.
[10:57] <Kyral> Malachi: disable the root account and see if that fixes it
[10:57] <Malachi> Okay...
[10:57] <Malachi> Um....how?
[10:57] <rikai> *is there an easy way
[10:57] <Malachi> >.<
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Do you know what's one the Master Boot Record?
[10:57] <Kyral> I actually have to look this one up
[10:57] <Kyral> Malachi: gimme a sec
[10:57] <fractalmbrown> the MBR is hda1
[10:58] <skon> Xicillin: go to System:Preferences:Keyboard shortcuts
[10:58] <lightbright> rikai hm... someone using one of my computers accidentally installed kubuntu-desktop <--- they "accidently" installed it? :P lol
[10:58] <XiCillin> skon: thanks
[10:58] <Kyral> Malachi: sudo passwd -l root
[10:58] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, the master boot record is the first partition (hda1)
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, So grub is still installed to MBR, but it's config file is on the Windows partition.
[10:58] <dailyrorschach> anyone have experience with laptop displays.  namely, my resolution is stuck at 800 x 600 but the resolution menu believes I'm set to 1280 x 760, and can I change contrast anywhere
[10:59] <rikai> lightbright, kid with idle hands enjoy clicking things they shouldn't.
[10:59] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it gives me an error 17
[10:59] <Daemonic> Is there a package available for bmp themes?
[10:59] <rikai> lightbright, that'll teach me to leave synaptic open.
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Does it say what error 17 is?
[10:59] <lightbright> rikai: what do they click to install kubuntu-desktop? :)
[10:59] <Malachi> Ah okay.
[10:59] <Malachi> I found that right as you said it.
[10:59] <Malachi> Thanks! I'll try it.
[10:59] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I googled it and apparently it happens when it can't mount a partition, but it recognizes it, but can't load it
[10:59] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it knows that the partition exists, but is unable to mount it, afaik
[11:00] <lightbright> Kyle_S: what does  sudo passwd -l root do?
[11:00] <jack|ass> so has the new version of x.org been ported to ubuntu yet?
[11:00] <Kyral> lightbright: locks the RootAccount
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Okay, we'll see what we can do with that.
[11:00] <Kyral> jack|ass: Breezy? No and it won't
[11:00] <jack|ass> Kyral: what about the... what's the current unstable?
[11:00] <skon> Does anyone know a tool (I own PartitionCommander for windows btw) that will let me expand my ext2 partition and decrease my ntfs partition, non destructively??? P.C. lets me decrease the ntfs but won't let ext2 claim that free space
[11:00] <trinidad> i have updated my kernel, however, after reboot with grub, my kernel is not on selection menu
[11:00] <trinidad> ?
[11:00] <trinidad> can someone help
[11:01] <Kyral> jack|ass: dapper?
[11:01] <rikai> lightbright, hm? they managed to install it though synaptic. how? i dont know, other than i had left synaptic open... i MIGHT have done a search for kubuntu while looking for something, but i'm not sure.
[11:01] <lightbright> Kyral: what you mean it locks it?
[11:01] <jack|ass> Kyral: Dapper?  What's the animal to go wiht that?  :)  But yeah.
[11:01] <lightbright> rikai: :)
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Where is menu.lst on the drive?  (What's the path equivalent to /boot/grub/menu.lst?)
[11:01] <Kyral> jack|ass: I don't think so...my updates haven't jumped X to 7.0 yet
[11:01] <DarkMan> pashaw, i'm going to  sleep  now,  for  now already tnx  for  your time  and  help . will see u later :):):)
[11:01] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, hang on, I must mount it first
[11:01] <rikai> lightbright, anywho, i dont suppose yo would know how to reverse the effect? ;)
[11:02] <Kyral> lightbright: it literally locks the account. According to man passwd
[11:02] <slew> hi. do i need to install the new xorg or can it wait till dapper?
[11:02] <burning_bronx> jack|ass, it's Dapper Drake
[11:02] <pashaw> DarkMan,  later
[11:02] <DarkMan> laters
[11:02] <lightbright> rikai: yes I do
[11:02] <jack|ass> Kyral: Dapper is usable though?
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> skon: The partitioner in the Ubuntu install lets you do that stuff.
[11:02] <rikai> lightbright, mind enlightening me, please?
[11:02] <burning_bronx> Dapper is usable but it may lead to a boot
[11:02] <Malachi> Problem still.
[11:02] <trinidad> tonyyarusso::> so what happens when you need to partition when your not installing?
[11:02] <Malachi> Now I'm getting a familiar error.
[11:02] <jack|ass> burning_bronx: lead to a boot?
[11:02] <lightbright> rikai: type "sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop"
[11:02] <Kyral> jack|ass: Eh...if you don't know how to get yourself out of a bind or mind X breaking or anything breaking for that matter ;P
[11:02] <jack|ass> burning_bronx: like having to reboot?
[11:02] <burning_bronx> I meant
[11:02] <burning_bronx> lead to a breakage
[11:02] <burning_bronx> sorry
[11:02] <Malachi> unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[11:03] <burning_bronx> my brain is out for the night
[11:03] <Parti> hi guys...
[11:03] <lightbright> Malachi: dont tell me you typed sudo passwd -l root, did you???
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> trinidad, You run the install disk in a different mode, and apparently that works.
[11:03] <rikai> lightbright, alrighty, that shouldnt have any detrimental effects on anything that was installed before kubuntu-desktop, should it?
[11:03] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I can't mount it, it doesn't give any errors but it doesn't give me any results
[11:03] <jack|ass> Kyral: hah, well i know how to, although i'm waiting for it to be not as bleeding edge as breezy was when i started using it. :)
[11:03] <burning_bronx> hello again Parti
[11:03] <trinidad> yes i see
[11:03] <Kyral> lightbright: He disabled it
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> trinidad, Not sure of the details, since I haven't tried it.
[11:03] <lightbright> rikai: look, it will tell you
[11:03] <Parti> yeah, hello again! :D
[11:03] <Malachi> I did....
[11:03] <Parti> I reconnected at 3 AM
[11:03] <Kyral> lightbright: because it was messing with the GUI Admin
[11:03] <Malachi> .................
[11:03] <Parti> and nobody was here ><
[11:03] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, nevermind, i can see my contents of the disk
[11:03] <Kyral> Malachi: look in /etc/hosts
[11:03] <lightbright> Kyral: ah ok
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, No error means it works, right?  Good stuff.
[11:04] <jack|ass> Kyral: do you happen to know the version of the glx server that's being used in the current dapper build?  (glxinfo | grep version)
[11:04] <lightbright> patrick_: hello, how is your life?
[11:04] <Malachi> ?
[11:04] <rikai> lightbright, hm, i tried htat command, and it did the same hing as a normal sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop...
[11:04] <rikai> *that
[11:04] <pashaw> Parti,   didnt you use  little "p" parti
[11:04] <Malachi> Nothing there except networking stuff.
[11:04] <lightbright> rikai: ask someone else then
[11:04] <Malachi> Just had to configure it about two minutes ago, so I know.
[11:04] <Ozman> re
[11:04] <Parti> Yep, I did use non-capital p, before.
[11:04] <Kyral> Malachi: the first line should be "127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost <something>"
[11:04] <herrpoon> im using fluxbox now
[11:05] <herrpoon> its rather bare!
[11:05] <Malachi> No, I changed it.
[11:05] <herrpoon> to say the least
[11:05] <Ozman> concernant les gdesklets, vous aviez raison ils ne se lancent pas au dmarrage
[11:05] <Parti> But I though that with the capital P, it looks better :P
[11:05] <Kyral> Malachi: to what?
[11:05] <Ozman> sorry
[11:05] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, eh, there is no .lst file
[11:05] <pashaw> Parti,   it doesnt  :P
[11:05] <nick01> I compiled a new kernel and now the sound doesn't work- alsaconf is not working either
[11:05] <Malachi> It's now 192.*.* localhost.localdomain blah blah blah
[11:05] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, there is a boot.ini
[11:05] <Parti> oh...
[11:05] <Parti> ok ><
[11:05] <nick01> how do I get sound \?
[11:05] <Parti> haha
[11:05] <Parti> BRB
[11:05] <Kyral> Malachi: change it to that format
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Good enough for me.
[11:05] <Malachi> If I change it to 127.0.0.1 I get no internet.
[11:05] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it's Window's own bootloader
[11:05] <Kyral> Malachi: From what I have observed, sudo somehow uses the loopback, which means it needs...
[11:06] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I don't know the syntax though
[11:06] <Malachi> Ah.
[11:06] <Malachi> Okay.
[11:06] <Malachi> I'll try it.
[11:06] <parti> ok. Here I am :)
[11:06] <Kyral> Malachi: are you on Broadband?
[11:06] <ossie> Hi yall
[11:06] <pashaw> parti,   much better  :P
[11:06] <skon> tonyarusso: thanks
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, pastebin it.  I don't either, but maybe something will become obvious.
[11:06] <skon> didnt use it yet
[11:06] <nick01> I compiled a new kernel and now the sound doesn't work- alsaconf is not working either so no sound; can somebody help ?
[11:06] <parti> ha ha ha :D
[11:06] <dailyrorschach> does anyone have experience with messing aroudn with xorg.conf, my display is a native 1280x768, but ubuntu is showing it as a 800 x 600 even though the display panel says otherwise
[11:06] <fractalmbrown> alright
[11:06] <Kyral> nick01: seems like you didn't compile in support for your card ;P
[11:07] <Malachi> Yes.
[11:07] <parti> pashaw & bunrning_B... I got a huge problem now....  I killed WIndows !!
[11:07] <Malachi> But I'm using VMWare.
[11:07] <nick01> Kyral, I have
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I'm guessing though that there's a grub file somewhere, that then specifies to chainload the Windows one, so keep searching for something grub-related, even though it might not be menu.lst.
[11:07] <Kyral> Malachi: for Ubuntu?
[11:07] <burning_bronx> parti, what you mean you killed windows?
[11:07] <ossie> hi can some here have alook at a shell script im writing if i post it on pastebin, please, as i cant see why this dont work, im used to suse scripting
[11:07] <pashaw> parti,   thats not a problem thats a solution
[11:07] <parti> ha ha ha ha !!
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> parti: That's a problem?  j/k!
[11:07] <parti> LOL
[11:07] <burning_bronx> he's right you know
[11:07] <Malachi> Windows as Host, Ubuntu as Guest.
[11:07] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:07] <Malachi> I have to...work requires it.
[11:07] <Ralken> DarkMan, hi its me agian do you remember me from earlier today?
[11:07] <Malachi> Requires XP.
[11:07] <turnpike420> format is not in ubuntu... what do I use to format a newly created ext3 partition
[11:07] <Kyral> Malachi: I ah
[11:07] <raj> anyone got the freenx working on UBUNTU??
[11:07] <pashaw> dailyrorschach, is it full screen right now?
[11:07] <parti> Well, I still need windows sometimes ><
[11:08] <nick01> Kyral, how do I install alsaconf ? alsa-utils is installed
[11:08] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, http://pastebin.com/477049
[11:08] <Ralken> DarkMan, I tried to send you a copy of the config but I guess you were afk
[11:08] <Kyral> Malachi: did you check the option to let the VM use the Net Connecton (whichever it is)
[11:08] <Malachi> And even so, the sudo passwd -l root still doesn't work.
[11:08] <parti> Anyway
[11:08] <coder_> i tried removing firefox x86_64 and installing i386 deb packages and the dpkg install didnt work.  So i apt-get install mozilla-firefox, and now firefox can't resolve fonts
[11:08] <parti> I a ubuntu27 in the Ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=599935&postcount=7
[11:08] <Ozman> is someone here can explain to me how start the gdesklets automatically  ?
[11:08] <Malachi> Option?
[11:08] <burning_bronx> parti, I need winboze for work too
[11:08] <dailyrorschach> pashaw,  nope
[11:08] <Malachi> It's configured for nat.
[11:08] <parti> Yeah, me too ><
[11:08] <coder_> no text for anything!
[11:08] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   think i can help ya  my laptop did the same thing
[11:08] <parti> Could you take a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=599935&postcount=7
[11:08] <Malachi> By the way, I'm using Player, not Workstation
[11:09] <soundray> turnpike420, how did you create your ext3 partition?
[11:09] <Kyral> Malachi: nevermind then I only have experiance with WorkStation
[11:09] <Terrasque> any wow players here?
[11:09] <Kyral> WoW is EVIL
[11:09] <dailyrorschach> pashaw, I'd really apprecaite this, it's really annoying, it claims to be at 1280 x 768 but I know its not
[11:09] <ossie> http://pastebin.com/477050 , can anyone see why this dont work it complains of not being able to see the nzb files even though they are there
[11:09] <Ralken> I'm having problems getting swat to work under ubuntu are there any known issues with it?
[11:09] <Malachi> Well, I changed it back to 127.0.0.1
[11:09] <Malachi> But still I get the error.
[11:09] <nick01> how do I get sound back ?
[11:09] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   yeah  finding the changes i made
[11:09] <Kyral> Malachi: you may have to reboot the VM
[11:09] <Daemonic> Should I give up hope for a working flash pluging for x64?
[11:09] <Terrasque> Kyral, I know... but I'm addicted :(
[11:09] <Malachi> Mmm.
[11:10] <Kyral> Malachi: I don't know much about VMWaring Ubuntu
[11:10] <DarkMan> Ralken i'm back now  for  a  min
[11:10] <parti> ... :(
[11:10] <Kyral> Malachi: I was working on the assumption that you had a HD install
[11:10] <DarkMan> hiya
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Yeah, there's gotta be another file somewhere.
[11:10] <burning_bronx> well parti what did you use to resize winboze?
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Have you searched for "grub" on the drive?
[11:10] <Ralken> DarkMan, yeah I only got a min as well gotta get a last minute gift lol
[11:10] <Malachi> Ah.
[11:10] <parti> Partition magick 8, since I couldn't resize the partition using Gparted nor QTparted.
[11:10] <Malachi> I don't like VMWaring.
[11:10] <pashaw> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:11] <turnpike420> soundray: fdisk /dev/sda  n  p
[11:11] <DarkMan> hehehe   just  for  crishtmas ,lol
[11:11] <burning_bronx> weird enough
[11:11] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I think it's in the actual boot sector
[11:11] <soundray> Daemonic, please bother Macromedia about it before you give up. They should release a 64bit version, or, better yet, the source.
[11:11] <Ralken> DarkMan, I have the config you wanna take a look
[11:11] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, not a file on the harddrive
[11:11] <turnpike420> soundray: well, with sudo in front... then w to write and exit
[11:11] <Malachi> Ack! I can't run sudo at all now.
[11:11] <ossie> http://pastebin.com/477050 , can anyone see why this dont work it complains of not being able to see the nzb files even though they are there
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Ah.  Sounds plausible.
[11:11] <DarkMan> u can mail me  if u want  darky469@hotmail.com
[11:11] <Daemonic> soundray: perhaps I should email them with a complaint.
[11:11] <soundray> turnpike420, so you made a partition of the entire disk?
[11:11] <Ralken> DarkMan, is it ok to DCC it to you ?
[11:11] <Daemonic> soundray: not that they'd listen...
[11:12] <turnpike420> soundray: yup
[11:12] <Terrasque> well, anyway, I've cooked together an extremely crude .deb package of a modified wine capable of running WoW. And I wanted some feedback on it :) If it works on other installations, for example.. And also getting all my mistakes pointed out :)
[11:12] <turnpike420> soundray: 120GB external firewire drive
[11:12] <soundray> Daemonic, not to you alone, but I'll complain too, and with rising numbers, who knows...
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Think you can figure out how to modify the lines to fit a Windows disk to finish the "Prepare your working environment" section of that page?
[11:12] <pashaw> dailyrorschach, look at this  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6083
[11:12] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, huh?
[11:12] <DarkMan> u can try,  i  don't know  exactly if  all works  at the moment  , bevccause  i  only  have  ubuntu  for  a  week on my own system , have  to configureer  everything
[11:12] <soundray> turnpike420, the command you are looking for is probably 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1'.
[11:13] <Daemonic> soundray: true. we need to get together and unite in our harrassing efforts.. can't ignore everyone. ;)
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Remember the link I gave you earlier?
[11:13] <DonVincenzo> hi, I would like tochange the ownership of some files from root to a normal user, how can I do ?
[11:13] <parti> :(
[11:13] <Ralken> DarkMan, I sent it
[11:13] <turnpike420> soundray: and -j makes an ext2 format as ext3 correct?
[11:13] <Daemonic> soundray: I want my media.. but I don't want to revert to a 32bit distro. This x64 is just too fast/nice.
[11:13] <soundray> turnpike420, please read 'man mke2fs' though.
[11:13] <Terrasque> DonVincenzo, chown
[11:13] <coder_> could someone paste me a url for a backport address for sources.list?
[11:13] <soundray> turnpike420, that's correct.
[11:13] <Ralken> DarkMan, Ill e-mail it too you then cause its not showing you accepting the transfer
[11:13] <turnpike420> soundray: good, then I did learn something from reading.. :p
[11:14] <DonVincenzo> Terrasque: thanks
[11:14] <stram> is there some type of net install that will allow me to install 6.04 via CD currently?
[11:14] <DarkMan> oke  tnx  m8ty
[11:14] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   and this  here http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html   scroll down to the DISPLAY section
[11:14] <ossie> sorry to keep on anyone can help with this http://pastebin.com/477050
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I wan't to see if grub is able to recover itself automatically.
[11:14] <dailyrorschach> pashaw:  looking right now
[11:14] <dailyrorschach> I want to show you something on pastebin however
[11:14] <turnpike420> soundray++
[11:14] <turnpike420> soundray: thank you sir
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> stram: You can burn an ISO from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/, is that what you mean?
[11:15] <Terrasque> ossie, what's the problem exactly?
[11:15] <stram> tonyyarusso: yeah, thanks!
[11:15] <Ozman> nobody knows how to start the gdesklets automatically ?
[11:15] <Seveas> Ozman, add gdesklets to your session
[11:15] <soundray> Daemonic, the free software purist's route would be to support SVG and SMIL instead of Flash, I reckon.
[11:15] <coder_> Ozman: system-> sessions
[11:15] <Seveas> system -> prefs -> session
[11:15] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: this is what I currently have under my screen section
[11:15] <ossie> when i paste the command in manually it gives permission error even with sudo or fakeroot
[11:15] <soundray> turnpike420, any time :)
[11:16] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   add the subsection "display" like i did   but change your   virtual and "Modes"  to your real resolution
[11:16] <funkyHat> Ozman, system > preferences > session
[11:16] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   dont paste it here use pastebin
[11:16] <pashaw> !pastebin
[11:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:16] <dailyrorschach> I did
[11:16] <Daemonic> soundray: yeah. I just want everything to work. ;)
[11:16] <ossie> any idoes Terrasque
[11:16] <Sh4d0x> help me!!
[11:16] <Ralken> DarkMan, I just sent it via e-mail
[11:16] <dailyrorschach> I just didnt send it crap
[11:16] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6084
[11:16] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso,  I'm trying to figure this out
[11:16] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso,  is there any way to restart and do this terminal thing from the beginning?
[11:17] <DonVincenzo> is anyone here using gtkpod ?
[11:17] <Terrasque> ossie, yeah, check permissions :o)  is the filesystems mounted rw btw?
[11:17] <Ozman> thx I'll try
[11:17] <ossie> yes its my system partion
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> i installed a theme (which is ugly) and every time i try to open my thema managers to change current ugly theme it crashes
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> pleeaase somebody help :(:( i'm in no mood for a format
[11:17] <ossie> but i cant do it with sudo or fake or even sudo fakeroot
[11:17] <soundray> Sh4d0x, Gnome?
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> soundray uhu
[11:18] <Terrasque> Sh4d0x, you could nuke your .gnome/.gnome2 folder
[11:18] <ossie> what u think Terr
[11:18] <xenex> anyone here use netgear wg511v2 (china version) with ubuntu?
[11:18] <ossie> what u think Terrasque
[11:18] <soundray> Sh4d0x, no need to format, but... (see Terrasque)
[11:18] <Sh4d0x> soundray ooo thnxx you are my hero (k)
[11:18] <DarkMan> just got it   ralken , downloadig  from hotmail now
[11:18] <soundray> Terrasque, it won't work though...
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Yes.  How depends on exactly what you mean.  If it just looks cluttered, use "clear" or close the window and open another.  If you mean you think you've messed up how you've done some things on the system, my best bet it shutdown and restart the Live CD, which will undo all of the non-permanent things done, and I don't think you did anything permanent.
[11:19] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, ooh, this is ugly. I had a folder called C:\dev, and the recovery page told me to mount something to \mnt\work\dev
[11:19] <Sh4d0x> terrasque, can you tell me exactly what i have to do?
[11:19] <Terrasque> soundray, it wont?
[11:19] <soundray> Sh4d0x, it won't work though...
[11:19] <makkk> is there a way to get pygtk to work with python2.3?
[11:19] <soundray> Terrasque, sorry...
[11:19] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, applications->system->config editor, then navigate to desktop/gnome/interface , you can change the themes there
[11:19] <xenex> I need help. I haven't installed Ubuntu yet but I have read on the forums saying WG511v2 (China) is hard to work. Can anyone tell me step by step how to do this?
[11:19] <Ralken> DarkMan, k if I go afk can you e-mail me your response
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Why is that a problem?
[11:19] <soundray> Sh4d0x, unless you log out first and do it from a console or non-Gnome session.
[11:19] <cmatheson> xenex: are you talking about chinese input?
[11:19] <Terrasque> ossie, dont know enough about your system to know, sorry
[11:19] <xenex> cmatheson: yes i have the china version
[11:19] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, now there's a bunch of files in my C:\dev folder
[11:19] <soundray> Sh4d0x, otherwise Gnome just writes back its current config on exit.
[11:19] <Ralken> is there a way to show everyone else that your afk
[11:20] <DarkMan> sure  i will do that
[11:20] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, meaning, the tutorial assumes I'm working in a unix file system, which I'm not
[11:20] <cmatheson> xenex: i use it everyday (i'm using traditional, but it's the same setup either way)... it's really trivial to set up
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Of what sort?
[11:20] <Sh4d0x> soundray, from no one i'll never ever install an other theme!!
[11:20] <Sh4d0x> *now
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, True.
[11:20] <DarkMan>  already  tnx  , will have  a look at it now
[11:20] <Terrasque> Sh4d0x, if you got lots of spare time you could maybe hunt down the exact file that stores the current theme name, and change it manually.
[11:20] <xenex> cmatheson: im new to ubuntu so i dont know anything, can you tell me how to make the card work if it doesnt work?
[11:20] <IcemanV9> Ralken: change your nick e.g Ralken-afk
[11:20] <soundray> Sh4d0x, will reconfiguring gnome be a pain?
[11:21] <cmatheson> xenex: wait are you talking about chinese input or a card?
[11:21] <varsendagger> hey how would i copy all my . files with the cp command in cli
[11:21] <xenex> card
[11:21] <xenex> i have netgear wg511v2 (made in china version)
[11:21] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I'm not sure what files they are. They're highlighted and have yellow coloring if I try an 'ls' command
[11:21] <Sh4d0x> soundray, i guess yes, cus i'm only a few day's on ubuntu and it's pretty hard to learn
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Can you mount C:\  /mnt/work?
[11:21] <cmatheson> varsendagger: cp .* dest/
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, What are some names?
[11:21] <xenex> cmatheson: i have netgear wg511v2 (made in china version)
[11:22] <Terrasque> cmatheson, sure . and .. wont join the fray?
[11:22] <cmatheson> xenex: ooh, i'm not sure about that... i thought you were talking about i18n stuff
[11:22] <Ralken> thanks
[11:22] <cmatheson> Terrasque: no
[11:22] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, seriously, the simple fix is as I mentioned above. change gtk_theme to Human
[11:22] <soundray> Sh4d0x, putting it differently, have you spent a lot of time customizing gnome (I mean panels, desktop, mouse etc. rather than system stuff)?
[11:22] <Sh4d0x> terrasque in belgium it's now 23:31 i'd like to go to bed within a few minutes, cuz last weeks a worked hard on a new website for audi
[11:22] <xenex> cmatheson: do you use netgear wg511v2 (made in china version)?
[11:22] <cmatheson> xenex: no i do not, i don't know what that is
[11:22] <Terrasque> Sh4d0x, make a new user :)
[11:22] <DarkMan> oke  all  ,  see  u laters  ,  and have  a  good  night :)
[11:23] <Sh4d0x> nickrud but there are a lot of folders in "gnome"
[11:23] <xenex> cmatheson: its a wireless card that ive read on the forums saying that it is hard to setup
[11:23] <varsendagger> cmatheson, thankyou
[11:23] <cmatheson> xenex: it may be, i'm not sure
[11:23] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, C:\ is mounted as /mnt/work
[11:23] <xenex> cmatheson: but i dont know what to do exactly if it doesnt work
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Hmm, that might work out okay.
[11:23] <ossie> Terrasque,  sorted it didnt like the ; at the end of each line
[11:23] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, but there is no trace of GRUB or anything even remotely like it
[11:23] <Malachi> I got sudo to work.
[11:23] <Malachi> Needed to do "hostname localhost"
[11:23] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, no, you go, from the top menu bar: applications->system->config editor. Then, inside that app, navigate to desktop/interface. Edit in the right pane, gtk_theme to Human.
[11:23] <cmatheson> fractalmbrown: it's in /boot/grub
[11:23] <Terrasque> varsendagger, be careful with that advice... really check that "." and ".." arent included
[11:23] <Sh4d0x> terrasque, yes that would also be a solution
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Yeah, but if we're dealing with a hidden sector at the beginning of the disk, it might still be there.
[11:24] <nickrud> um, Desktop/gnome/interface is the full path
[11:24] <dailyrorschach> is there a way to turn off the outline around windows when minimizing and restoring them?
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, fractalmbrown's grub is on Windows.
[11:24] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  man this is clunky  open this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6085   see where i added your info
[11:24] <jc-denton> i use dm_crypt on an external firewire hd
[11:24] <Sh4d0x> nickrud aah folder interface thnQ
[11:24] <Terrasque> Sh4d0x, its probably the fastest "fix"..
[11:24] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: yeah, and this is without me even trying to customize it
[11:24] <Malachi> Now my terminal doesn't work.
[11:24] <nickrud> correct one, too. That's what the theme manager manipulates
[11:24] <jc-denton> i'm wondering if i can mount this harddrive on other non-linux os
[11:24] <varsendagger> Terrasque, . and .. are being included, any other ideas?
[11:25] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, check this out: http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/
[11:25] <Terrasque> varsendagger,  yeah, lots :)
[11:25] <Sh4d0x> nickrud nothing changes :s
[11:25] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: so are you recommending tyring to replace everything I have with screen with the text you gave me?
[11:25] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   add this lines in as an extra "display"    use your numbers for the virtual and Modes
[11:25] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, it would require me to restore my MBR back to how it was before Ubuntu messed with it
[11:25] <cmatheson> varsendagger: if you don't add -r to the 'cp' it's not going to copy . or ..
[11:25] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  no you can just add thos 4-5 lines into your xorg.conf
[11:25] <dailyrorschach> ok
[11:25] <varsendagger> cmatheson, how do i copy my .folders then?
[11:25] <dailyrorschach> in the display section correct?
[11:26] <dailyrorschach> and then restart GDM
[11:26] <Evil_Whisper> !qt
[11:26] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[11:26] <Terrasque> varsendagger, a hackish approach could be to do "for x in `ls -A`; do cp $x target/; done" :)
[11:26] <Sh4d0x> nickrud: error " at this moment nothing can be changed, this wil be fixed in a later version" :s
[11:26] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  in the SCREEN section  subsection display
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Certainly looks worth a shot.
[11:26] <mp3guy> i accidentally changed the bootup splash screen to the xubuntu one, how do i change it back?
[11:26] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: ok
[11:26] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, but how would I go about restoring my MBR?
[11:26] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, odd. Works For Me , going to Clearlooks and back to Human
[11:26] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   your adding a new display reference
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Your other option is to try reinstalling grub using an Ubuntu install CD, which I think is possible.
[11:27] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: right, ok
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Good question.
[11:27] <Evil_Whisper> Is there any way to make QT applications use your GTK colors?
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, I know it happens if you reinstall Windows, but I'm sure that's not a very appealing option.
[11:27] <bur[n] er> Evil_Whisper: if you find a way, i'd like to know ;)
[11:27] <Sh4d0x> nickrud what is the exact name of the theme "human"?
[11:27] <nickrud> Human
[11:27] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: and after that I should be able to do a restart of gdm and see the changes?
[11:27] <nickrud> capitalized
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, You might try contacting your computer's manufacturer and asking whether they have anything to restore your MBR.
[11:28] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, start rescue console from cd, run fixmbr, cross fingers
[11:28] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I found a forum link, possibly a solution http://www.techzonez.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3975
[11:28] <holycow> hey guys, i have one install where grub seems to hang for 30 seconds before hitting stage 1.5 - i'm curious if anyone has seen this before, i'm not googling much on this issue
[11:28] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   if its not fullscreen id reboot myself
[11:28] <cmatheson> varsendagger: you could do something ugly like this if you have folders: for i in .* ; do if [ $i != "."  ] ; then if [ $i != ".." ] ;then cp $i dest/; fi;  fi; done
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Mine didn't, but you might get lucky.
[11:28] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, that's exactly what the link told me
[11:28] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  just reboot it
[11:28] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: alright, giving it a try
[11:29] <parti> I'm back again...
[11:29] <burning_bronx> and I never left
[11:29] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, of course, fixmbr have never actually worked for me... why do you need win mbr btw? is it the mbr thats gone or windows boot system?
[11:29] <burning_bronx> resizing ntfs using ntfsprogs from the ubuntu repo
[11:29] <burning_bronx> ;)
[11:29] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, windows is still there. The MBR was hijacked by GRUB
[11:29] <burning_bronx> wonder if it would damage data
[11:29] <burning_bronx> :P
[11:29] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, tell grub to include windows in the list? :)
[11:29] <burning_bronx> fractalmbrown, it's windows that hijacks windows >.>
[11:30] <Merline> Hello and merry xmas! I have a little problem. How i can create superuser password in console ?
[11:30] <burning_bronx> *hijacks grub
[11:30] <burning_bronx> *mbr
[11:30] <burning_bronx> screw me.
[11:30] <Terrasque> Merline, "sudo passwd" iirc :)
[11:30] <teroedni> Thanks for all help:) question:/usr/share/alsa/pcm<-----here is a lot of conf files??   Are they a demo of differnet setups for dmix souround and etc meant for asoundrc configurating?
[11:30] <soundray> Merline, 'sudo passwd'. But are you sure you want to do this?
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, Also could work, provided you have a WinXP disk (I didn't).
[11:30] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, I have an original disk. It should work okey-dokey ;)
[11:30] <Terrasque> Merline, oh,and what soundray said..
[11:31] <Merline> soundray, why not? how else i can be root ?
[11:31] <soundray> Merline, with sudo.
[11:31] <Fred> Merline, "sudo su"
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> fractalmbrown, You might also consider trying to figure out reinstalling grub from an Ubuntu disk, since I'd rather use it than the Windows bootloader anyway, once it's working.
[11:31] <Terrasque> Merline, just put the word "sudo" infront of the commands needing root access.. or "sudo -i" for interactive shell
[11:31] <soundray> Merline, sudo -i is better than sudo su
[11:31] <Sh4d0x> nickrud got it
[11:31] <Merline> okay
[11:32] <Merline> thank u
[11:32] <Sh4d0x> nickrud you simple own man!! thnQ sooo much
[11:32] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, good, that gconf editor is worth looking over. It'll tell you a lot about what you can change on your desktop
[11:32] <DShepherd> hey can anyone drop me a link to opera 8 static
[11:32] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, i'm going to reboot and try the FIXMBR thing
[11:32] <fractalmbrown> tonyyarusso, if it doesn't work, I'll log back on to IRC
[11:33] <MrRio> fractalmbrown: yeah the fixmbr thing will do the trick
[11:33] <teroedni> Is there no one who knowes what the /usr/share/alsa/pcm conf files are meant tyo be used for?
[11:33] <enos> how do i get root access; during the install, i was never prompted to setup a root password...
[11:33] <sampan> ubotu tell enos about root
[11:33] <zoka> hi people! Did anybody had problems with upgrading modules in eclipse
[11:34] <Sh4d0x> nickrud, how do i get rid of the "stupid" installed themes, especially the "broken" ones or the ones that crashes my theme manager?
[11:34] <crimsun> teroedni: they're default configuration files used for pcm definitions so that you can specify plug names via alsa-lib. Why?
[11:34] <zoka> it seems that it can't vrite in default folders
[11:34] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, the themes you installed are in ~/.themes, you can simply delete their folders
[11:34] <pashaw> tonyyarusso, nice work   fractals  setup  didnt make sense to me
[11:35] <teroedni> crimsun:So they are not meant for asoundrc config?
[11:35] <Sh4d0x> nickrud thnx :)
[11:35] <puff> I'm trying to play a wmv and no sound is coming through.  I've played other videos with sound, and I can hear the various UI button clicks.  Anything obvious I'm missing?
[11:35] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, any downloaded icon themes will be in ~/.icons
[11:35] <teroedni> like if i want 7.12audio
[11:35] <teroedni> 7.1 audio
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> pashaw: We have yet to see if there's any success, but at least we got somewhere!
[11:35] <cmatheson> puff: what are you using to play the video?
[11:35] <pashaw> tonyyarusso, lol
[11:35] <crimsun> teroedni: then you specify plug:surround71
[11:35] <crimsun> teroedni: don't touch anything in /usr/share/alsa/
[11:35] <teroedni> :)
[11:35] <DShepherd> !tell me about opera
[11:36] <puff> cmatheson: totem.
[11:36] <puff> cmatheson: I can play this other wmv just fine with audio.
[11:36] <skon> tonyarusso: the GPartEd utility doesn't allow ntfs
[11:36] <skon> what should I do
[11:36] <teroedni> where do i specify plug :sourround
[11:36] <teroedni> in alsa conf?
[11:37] <cmatheson> puff: maybe it's just the video... if the one file works than it should be a setup issue
[11:37] <puff> cmatheson: Okay... oh well.  thanks.
[11:37] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:37] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: I was able to get full screen, but I'm not getting the right resolution, this forum post seems to be the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75428  but I can't make the command work after getting the file
[11:37] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:37] <teroedni> crimsun:Thanks for the Help:)
[11:37] <crimsun> teroedni: np
[11:37] <Sh4d0x> nickrud, can you tell me once more where i find these folders?
[11:37] <DonVincenzo> Hi,I compiled from sources with make install, but now I would like to uninstall, how should I do ?
[11:38] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  all i was going for was full screen  :)  now we can adjust your resolution
[11:38] <nickrud> Sh4d0x, ~/.themes and ~/.icons
[11:38] <ossie> please can someoen say how to get divx / xvid palyback on ubuntu
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> skon: I think it lets you open a connected utility of ntfsresize.
[11:38] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: awesome, I'm just saying I think it may be driver related
[11:38] <cmatheson> DonVincenzo: if you kept the source dir it's possible you can do 'make uninstall'... otherwise it's going to be much less trivial
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> skon: Let me check mine.
[11:38] <skon> k
[11:38] <sherlock> can someone pm me how the sources.list should look like..ice checked ubuntuguide.org but their soruces list doesnt work..and i need rar archiver,so plz someone pm me how it should look
[11:38] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   what resolution do you want?
[11:38] <soundray> !tell sherlock about easysource
[11:38] <skon> sherlock: need a rar archiver? www.winrar.com
[11:38] <dailyrorschach> 1280 x 768
[11:39] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: my lcd's native
[11:39] <skon> no its www.rarlab.com
[11:39] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   post your new screen section into pastebin    the entire screen part with the displays
[11:39] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: sure
[11:39] <Evil_Whisper> just install rar & unrar
[11:39] <Evil_Whisper> sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[11:39] <Evil_Whisper> :-P
[11:39] <eztar> "You are either not running this script from the console or simply do not have console ownership." wtf? Isn't terminal a command line?
[11:40] <rapha> Since Ubuntu Breezy Badger my girlfriends laptop has big connectivity problems, only some internet sites work, IRC does not work (using SSH to my home PC now, which does work luckily). Can somebody help us?
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> skon: Try apt-get install ntfsprogs.
[11:40] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   under System -> Pref -> ScreenResolution  what setting is it at
[11:40] <skon> Thanks
[11:40] <DonVincenzo> cmatheson: thks
[11:41] <blanky> i was trying slackware (just installed it), but I soon realized the truth; ubuntu and i are engaged :'(
[11:41] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: it says 1280 x 768, but that's not what it is
[11:41] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: here's that section of the config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6087
[11:41] <skon> rapha: it's probably a firewall problem or something...do you have one running?
[11:41] <teroedni> crimsun:Where do i state plug:surround71
[11:41] <cmatheson> rapha: sounds like a DNS issue
[11:41] <teroedni> crimsun:In alsa.conf?
[11:41] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: further I found a forum entry that might be my solution but the command they give me after downloading the file doesn't seem to work and I can't tell why http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75428
[11:41] <skon> yeah DNS issue
[11:41] <crimsun> teroedni: no, you specify that in the preferences of whatever app you're using
[11:41] <xenex> I am new to Ubuntu. I have a wireless card, NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version). In the forums, people have said it is hard to set this up, and they display all these different solutions. I need help step by step if the card doesn't work.
[11:41] <cmatheson> eztar: i don't think you can run that from X, wht is it?
[11:42] <parksy> my sound card doesn't get detected...is there any way to set it up manually?
[11:42] <crimsun> teroedni: if you're constructing an ~/.asoundrc, you'd put it in a pcm stanza
[11:42] <crimsun> parksy: what sound card?
[11:42] <parksy> crimsun: cmipci
[11:42] <dfgas> are there any repos that have bleeding edge software? like newest xchat and such?
[11:42] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  lol   you were suppose to use your 1280x768 numbers where i put the 00000's
[11:42] <dfgas> or is thee a list somewhere of repos like that?
[11:42] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: oh, damn, I'm an asshole
[11:42] <parksy> crimsun: device manager doesn't realize that it's a sound card...is hal used for detection?
[11:42] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  one line has a space beweet #s  other has x
[11:43] <crimsun> parksy: lsmod|grep ^snd_cmipci
[11:43] <rapha> skon: cmatheson: There is an ADSL router here. But this PC hasn't had any problems with Hoary Hedgehog, and all the Windows PCs in the network don't have a problem either. It is only since Breezy Badger has been installed. I also tried multiple DNS servers which didn't help. The only thing that does truly help is setting my own home PC as a proxy through an SSH tunnel, but my home PC isn't always turned on.
[11:43] <crimsun> dfgas: "dapper"
[11:43] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: got it
[11:43] <Evil_Whisper> !epiphany
[11:43] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: Wish i knew
[11:43] <dfgas> crimsun: dapper?
[11:43] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: after doing that reboot or restart gdm?
[11:43] <skon> rapha: is IP chains on?
[11:43] <parksy> crimsun: doesn't load automatically, but i can get it to load...not sure what to do after though
[11:43] <rapha> skon: cmatheson: Also, sometimes existing connections stall, so I wouldn't think it is a DNS issue.
[11:43] <teroedni> Crimsun:okey so if i want 5.1 i specify plug:5.1 in asoundrc=global 5.1 settings:)
[11:43] <Evil_Whisper> !epiphany
[11:43] <teroedni> crimsun Thanks again:)
[11:43] <dfgas> crimsun: sorry i am new to ubuntu  :D
[11:43] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   not yet,  i have no idea how  those 0000's helped with full screen
[11:44] <eztar> cmatheson, it's the script from ati that determines your version of xfree
[11:44] <cmatheson> rapha: are there other pc's there that work? i would start by comparing everything from 'route' 'ifconfig' /etc/resolv/conf, etc. w/ the other boxes network settings
[11:44] <rapha> skon: ipchains isn't even installed.
[11:44] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  save your changes and report it again
[11:44] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: no, that was my mistake, I had fullscreen
[11:44] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: the issue is the resolution
[11:44] <Sh4d0x> nickruk sry :$ can't find such a folders
[11:44] <crimsun> teroedni: you can override pcm.!default {} with it, yes.
[11:44] <rapha> cmatheson: this is the only Linux computer in the network. And it is configured exactly like it was configured when it was running Hoary.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> wasmt ipchains hoary?
[11:44] <skon> rapha: hmm.. i don't really know
[11:44] <crimsun> parksy: after you load it, cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:44] <teroedni> cvrimsun:Ahh thanks learnt alot now
[11:44] <sudo_smartass> ok
[11:44] <rapha> cmatheson: And, to say it again, all Windows PCs still work flawlessly.
[11:45] <cmatheson> rapha: yeah, but have you compared the network settings on the linux box to those of the windoze boxen?
[11:45] <teroedni> crimsun:Thanks
[11:45] <rapha> skon: Yeah, me neither :-) ... I'm pretty much at the end of my latin.
[11:45] <sudo_smartass> hey crimson... didn't u help me awhile back with my mounting ntfs?
[11:45] <crimsun> dfgas: "dapper" is the development version.
[11:45] <crimsun> sudo_smartass: no idea.
[11:45] <parksy> crimsun: --- no soundcards ---
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> For everyone that's wondered about resizing ntfs and I've told to try the install CD somehow:  I still don't know how that's supposed to work, but you can get the package ntfsprogs out of main, which has ntfsresize.
[11:45] <mz111> When I switched my login shell to zsh, gnome became oblivious to my path variable
[11:45] <sudo_smartass> ok anyone know how to make my ntfs drives accessible?
[11:45] <sudo_smartass> ive tried mounting
[11:45] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: so I always had the fullscreen I misunderstood you before, what's happening is it says im at 1024 x 768 but I'm not, clearly at something lower
[11:45] <cmatheson> eztar: i don't know much about that script but if it's talking about console-ownership i would guess you don't want to be running it from a terminal in X
[11:45] <gnomefreak> dapper screwed me up hard once again :(
[11:45] <crimsun> mz111: zsh doesn't parse ~/.bash*, believe it or not.
[11:46] <crimsun> gnomefreak: so why do you insist? :)
[11:46] <rapha> cmatheson: The only thing that's different _meanwhile_ (because of my trying things out) is that the Linux PC doesn't get its DNS server and IP address through DHCP anymore. I thought that'd be the source of the problem, but it wasn't.
[11:46] <sudo_smartass> i got a virus on my windows disk and i want access to it to clean it up but i cant make it mounted
[11:46] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: according to this forum post that's based on the card I use, it says to run this command "sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run" but when I do that it says no command
[11:46] <cmatheson> rapha: type 'xdpyinfo | grep dimensions'
[11:46] <cmatheson> dailyrorschach: make it executable first
[11:46] <gnomefreak> crimsun, cause i got to thinking about it and thought that it was internet related
[11:46] <crimsun> parksy: paste the output from ''lspci -v'' and ''lspci -nv'' onto pastebin
[11:46] <mz111> crimsun: i set the path in my zsh profile and my bash profile, but gnome can't execute the apps
[11:46] <skon> tonyarusso: command not found
[11:47] <crimsun> mz111: which zsh file did you use?
[11:47] <dailyrorschach> cmatheson: and I do that how?
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> skon: Which command?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> since the sources wont work gaim couldnt connect and xchat couldnt connect
[11:47] <cmatheson> dailyrorschach: chmod +x foo
[11:47] <dailyrorschach> ok
[11:47] <mz111> crimsun: i tried several, most recently /etc/zsh/zshenv
[11:47] <skon> tonyarusso: ntfsresize, and I just did the sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[11:48] <mz111> crimsun: everythign works from the console
[11:48] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   misunderstood  thought you only needed screen resizing not driver installing  :)
[11:48] <rapha> cmatheson: What would my screen resolution have to do with my network connection?
[11:48] <crimsun> mz111: use ~/.zshrc, and source it from ~/.zlogin
[11:48] <eztar> cmatheson, https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[11:48] <cmatheson> rapha: wrong person sorry
[11:48] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   these changes will still work tho
[11:48] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: yeah, my mistake miscommunication, hopefully this driver fixes it, because I cant live with this display
[11:48] <rapha> cmatheson: np :-)
[11:48] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: installing it now
[11:48] <mz111> crimsun: i don't think that will work, but will try
[11:48] <gnomefreak> rapha, i would hope nothing :(
[11:48] <pashaw> dailyrorschach, youll still need  that display section fixed for the best resolution
[11:49] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: yeah, I fixed it as you said
[11:49] <rapha> Btw, does somebody know how to find out if there exists a USB driver for a particular device ID when the device doesn't have any model info printed on it?
[11:49] <rapha> gnomefreak: Do you maybe have any idea regarding these strange connectivity problems?
[11:49] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   we werent done
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> skon: And the install of ntfsprogs had no problems?  I just did the exact same thing, and I have ntfsresize here.
[11:49] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: oh ok
[11:49] <crimsun> rapha: sure, you can check the usermap files or the driver itself.
[11:49] <sudo_smartass> anyone have a few minutes to devote to a noob?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> rapha,  i just got here i didnt see any of them
[11:49] <ispiked> if something is automagically modprobed, does it still read the /etc/modprobe.d/ files for configuration options?
[11:50] <crimsun> sudo_smartass: everyone here does, just ask.
[11:50] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  comment  out the old display section  that says 24   so it doesnt use that 1024
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> skon: Check spelling and such.
[11:50] <crimsun> ispiked: of course
[11:50] <parksy> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/477080
[11:50] <ispiked> crimsun: alright. trying to figure out why I can't use options led=1 on my intel wireless card.
[11:50] <skon> tonyarusso: k works now...dunno what dumb thing I wasn't doing right before
[11:50] <crimsun> ispiked: what syntax are you using in /etc/modprobe.d/foo ?
[11:50] <ispiked> crimsun: if it doesn't work with `modprobe ipw2200 led=1' is it most likey their problem?
[11:51] <crimsun> parksy: sec.
[11:51] <sudo_smartass> ok... i cant seem to get my ntfs drive recognized as a drive. i modded the fstab file but when i did a mount -a it said it was bad
[11:51] <sudo_smartass> oh wait
[11:51] <ispiked> crimsun: `options ipw2200 led=1'.
[11:51] <sudo_smartass> lemme try something
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> skon: All right.  Whatever works.
[11:51] <dailyrorschach> pashaw:  ok one second
[11:51] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  try mount -t cifs
[11:51] <rapha> crimsun: where would I look for these usermap files? Actually, I think there is no driver for this device, but would like to be sure of it first. If there really is none I'd like to try and write one...
[11:51] <xenex> I am new to Ubuntu. I have a wireless card, NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version). In the forums, people have said it is hard to set this up, and they display all these different solutions. I need help step by step if the card doesn't work.
[11:51] <sudo_smartass> mrk... did that it just gave me the prompt back
[11:52] <skon> tonyarusso: so this will shrink my ntfs partition, but how do I then expand my ext2 partition to fill the empty space?
[11:52] <rapha> gnomefreak: Well, basically "it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't" since installing Breezy as compared to Hoary where it all worked.
[11:52] <ispiked> xenex: I can probably help.
[11:52] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  thats what you want
[11:52] <crimsun> ispiked: hmm, appears to work here in 6.04, can't speak for 5.10
[11:52] <skon> will GPartEd do that for me?
[11:52] <xenex> ispiked: you have the card?
[11:52] <ispiked> crimsun: hrm... using 5.10 here.
[11:52] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  now switch to where ever you mounted it and the files should be there
[11:52] <rapha> gnomefreak: It's like... wierd. "google.com" won't work, but "google.com/linux" will...
[11:52] <ispiked> xenex: have a similar one.
[11:52] <crimsun> rapha: they're distributed with unofficial drivers, usually
[11:52] <xenex> ispiked: what do you have?
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> skon: Yeah, once the ntfs is out of the way.
[11:52] <ispiked> xenex: wrt56g.
[11:53] <ispiked> xenex: err...
[11:53] <ispiked> xenex: I think that might be my router.
[11:53] <ispiked> xenex: anyhow...
[11:53] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,   mount -t cifs /dev/hda3 /media/windisk     for example
[11:53] <ispiked> xenex: what's `lspci |grep 802.11' give you?
[11:53] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, say what?
[11:53] <sudo_smartass> oh ok
[11:53] <xenex> ispiked: i just need to know what to do if my card doesnt work when i install ubuntu. i really dont know anything about linux so i need to know step by step
[11:53] <sudo_smartass> lemme give that a shot
[11:53] <xenex> ispiked: i havent installed ubuntu yet
[11:53] <mz111> crimsun: it didn't work but thanks anyway
[11:54] <ispiked> xenex: yeah, you can probably get it setup with ndiswrapper.
[11:54] <gnomefreak> rapha, i havent an idea off hand
[11:54] <xenex> ispiked: where would i get the drivers from? the website or the cd?
[11:54] <rapha> crimsun: Oh, I don't think there's a driver for this thing in Breezy. It's a small digital camera by some really strange brand. Really tiny actually. It gets recognized as a full speed device, but that is all. It does come with Windows drivers, so maybe these could be used to get some info about it?
[11:54] <sudo_smartass> says media/windisk doesn't exist
[11:54] <rapha> gnomefreak: kay, thx :-)
[11:54] <pauli> hola
[11:54] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  that was an example
[11:54] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: ok, so I should comment out the one before the virtual that says depth 24?
[11:54] <pauli> chao
[11:54] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, yeah but i was using it anyway
[11:54] <Daemonic> hmm, strange...in xchat I set the channels to join automagicly and it only joins the first one. I've tried putting a space between them and a comma.. doesn't work with either. Am I doing something wrong?
[11:54] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  you would have to create the mount point to mount it to
[11:55] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje,  how do i do that?
[11:55] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   yes  then  pastebin it   so we can double check
[11:55] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  if it doesn't already exist
[11:55] <ispiked> xenex: so you have the card working on windows, I presume?
[11:55] <rapha> Btw, is it possible to put Wacome Intuos graphics tablet drivers into xorg.conf and have X *not* hang for 2 minutes when the board is not plugged in?
[11:55] <xenex> ispiked: correct
[11:55] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  mkdir /media/windisk
[11:55] <Evil_Whisper> Whats the diffrence between epiphany and galeon?
[11:55] <ispiked> xenex: find the file WG511v2.INF on PC.
[11:55] <parksy> Evil_Whisper: epiphany was a fork of galeon
[11:55] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, cant make directory, read only file system
[11:55] <rinzai-shu> Evil_Whisper: the name, and the author? ;-)
[11:55] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6088
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Evil_Whisper,  depends they both do pretty much same thing the same way but look different?
[11:56] <Evil_Whisper> wich one is still in development?
[11:56] <ispiked> xenex: you'll need that.
[11:56] <funkyHat> Is it possible to set a consistant colour code in X-Chat?
[11:56] <parksy> Evil_Whisper: epiphany...galeon development is switching to be a few epiphany extensiosn
[11:56] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  what are you talking about its a read only filesystem? You can mount it to any folder that you want actually.... find a place where yuo can make a folder and mount it there
[11:56] <ispiked> funkyHat: what do you mean?
[11:56] <Evil_Whisper> thanks for the info guys
[11:56] <gnomefreak> funkyHat, in settings prefferneces no?
[11:57] <xbang> hello
[11:57] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, its telling me that /media is read only
[11:57] <DonVincenzo> anybody using GTKPOD here ?
[11:57] <Evil_Whisper> is there some way to make the back forward stop home thingy smaller in ephipany?
[11:57] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   i thought you wanted 1280x768   for those virtual numbers?
[11:57] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, I mean the mIRC colour of what you're saying to people (I'm not going to start using it don't worry ;))
[11:57] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: no, I had to change, I was mistake 1024 x 768 is my native
[11:57] <vincent2> Hi
[11:57] <xbang> i'm trying to use the livecd version of 5.04 to test sound on my motherboard. however, after I hit enter to boot - it displays some info such as PCI and stuff, and then just goes to a black screen - can anyone help me?
[11:57] <cmatheson> Evil_Whisper: aside from taking the text-off the bottom i don't think there is
[11:57] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  are you getting a permission denied? try sudo mount -t etc....  otherwise find a place where you can make a folder to mount the drive... for example make a  /mymount/windrive
[11:58] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   did the driver script work?
[11:58] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  just as an example
[11:58] <Evil_Whisper> cmatheson, how would I take the text off the bottom?
[11:58] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: i haven't restarted yet so I don't know
[11:58] <xenex> ispiked: what version should i get? i have win98, 2000, me, and xp. each folder has the .inf file
[11:58] <ispiked> xbang: my advice: try 5.10.
[11:58] <crimsun> parksy: do you have a /proc/asound/cardX/cmipci ?
[11:58] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   try it out'
[11:58] <gnomefreak> funkyHat,  i use defaults for xchat :))
[11:58] <cmatheson> Evil_Whisper: it's a gconf option, or else just turn it off in GNOME globally
[11:58] <ispiked> xenex: probably the XP version.
[11:58] <Evil_Whisper> thanks
[11:58] <xenex> ispiked: ok i have it
[11:58] <parksy> crimsun: /proc/asound has only two dirs, oss and seq
[11:58] <xbang> isp: i don't want to download it and burn it - i have the livecd version here of 5.04
[11:58] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: save the config as it was sent to you in pastebin?
[11:58] <Evil_Whisper> ah yes I got it that did the trick thanks!
[11:58] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, root@Linux:/home/josh# mount -t cifs /dev/hda1 /hda1
[11:58] <sudo_smartass> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[11:58] <sudo_smartass>        missing codepage or other error
[11:58] <sudo_smartass>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:58] <sudo_smartass>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:58] <ispiked> xenex: alright, put that onto a flash drive or something -- you'll need it later.
[11:59] <xbang> unless you're 99% sure it will fix the issue, anything else?
[11:59] <crimsun> parksy: ok, then I need output from lsmod, too.
[11:59] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   yes
[11:59] <dailyrorschach> ok
[11:59] <xenex> ispiked: is a floppy disk ok?
[11:59] <vincent2> is here a channel who somebody speak french ?
[11:59] <sudo_smartass> mrkoje, and that means what?
[11:59] <ispiked> sudo_smartass: try mounting hda2.
[11:59] <lowman62> weird my hard drive partition was showing up as sda1 no wonder I could not mount my jumpdrive...it was /dev/sdb tis mounted and working perfectly now that I added it to my fstab
[11:59] <crimsun> vincent2: #ubuntu-fr
[11:59] <vincent2> where* excuse me
[11:59] <xenex> ispiked: oh wait, i am getting these files from the cd
[11:59] <xenex> ispiked: is that ok instead of using a floppy?
[11:59] <vincent2> thanks Crimsun
[11:59] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  your doing it wrong... first to mount you need to use sudo
[11:59] <Evil_Whisper> Now all it needs are smaller tabs and a extension system that can use firefox's extensions :p
[11:59] <sudo_smartass> im su'ed
[11:59] <ispiked> xenex: well, actually, ubuntu will probably automount your windows partitions (if you leave them).
[11:59] <xbang> isp: i don't want to download it and burn it - i have the livecd version here of 5.04
[11:59] <xbang> unless you're 99% sure it will fix the issue, anything else?
[12:00] <xenex> ispiked: no im going to have ubuntu only