[12:00] <ispiked> xenex: you will need to have that file when installing the drivers on ubuntu.
[12:00] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  sudo mount -t  cifs /YOUR_DRIVE_LOCATION /THE_MOUNT/FOLDER
[12:00] <ispiked> xenex: a floppy sould work.
[12:00] <lowman62> xenex: you won't be disappointed
[12:00] <xenex> ispiked: would the cd be ok or no?
[12:00] <Evil_Whisper> epiphany is as secure as firefox right?
[12:00] <xbang> ispiked: did you see my other messages?
[12:00] <parksy> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/477085
[12:00] <ispiked> xenex: probably.
[12:00] <xenex> ispiked: dont i need the .sys too?
[12:01] <ispiked> xenex: don't think so.
[12:01] <vincent2> firefox is the best :)
[12:01] <parksy> crimsun: after modprobe snd_cmipci
[12:01] <ispiked> xenex: I have to eat dinner, I'll be back later, though.
[12:01] <mrkoje> sudo_smartass,  you need to really make sure thats the locatino of the actual drive and you also need to make sure that the mount point already exists. If it doesn't that you need to create it.
[12:01] <ispiked> xenex: if you want to stay on...
[12:01] <xenex> ispiked: yeah ill be here all day :\
[12:01] <xbang> thanks for no help :)
[12:01] <SockerFot> MERRY CHRISTMAS STRAIGHT FROM SWEDEN UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
[12:01] <eitch> hi all, can someone tell me how I can make my ubuntu install use kde as default?
[12:02] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: I guess it worked, but the text still seems so big and stuff
[12:02] <Evil_Whisper> eitch
[12:02] <crimsun> parksy: and ''cat /proc/interrupts''
[12:02] <Evil_Whisper> install kubuntu deskto
[12:02] <eitch> kde works and all, I just want to have it load kde not gnome when I "startx"
[12:02] <Evil_Whisper> *desktop
[12:02] <Evil_Whisper> set your session as kde and it should load
[12:03] <eitch> I've installed kubuntu already, but somehow it's a bit messed up. Rather ubuntu with KDE installed with apt
[12:03] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  System -> Pref -> Fonts
[12:03] <Evil_Whisper> click on kde and when it asks if you want this as your default session hit yes
[12:03] <parksy> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/477090
[12:03] <sudo_smartass> i cant find the drive unless i use system....administration....disks
[12:03] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: yeah, what settings do you recommend?
[12:03] <sudo_smartass> its not im my fstab
[12:03] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   thats all up to you     find something your happy with
[12:04] <dailyrorschach> ah, ok
[12:04] <eitch> how can I change this, after I've selected? I don't want to reinstall my system, and there should be some configs I can change...
[12:04] <crimsun> parksy: do you have anything using the lpt (parallel) port?
[12:04] <crimsun> parksy: the reason your sound card isn't being recognised is due it not being allocated an irq
[12:04] <sudo_smartass> screw it, ill just load into windows
[12:04] <parksy> crimsun: no...odd, it worked in gentoo iirc
[12:05] <parksy> crimsun: is irq bios level?
[12:05] <crimsun> parksy: offhand I suspect an acpi issue
[12:05] <crimsun> parksy: yes. Try booting with acpi=off
[12:05] <parksy> crimsun: great, i'll try that
[12:05] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: and finally, does ubuntu or gnome rather have a setting to control contrast?
[12:06] <parksy> crimsun: if not, any other ideas?  just come back to discuss?
[12:06] <eitch> in which config file can I make X load kde instead of gnome?
[12:06] <crimsun> yep, I'll be here for a few hours
[12:06] <parksy> crimsun: great, thanks a bunch
[12:06] <graabein> quick question, where can i find gstreamer0.8-lame?
[12:06] <crimsun> !info gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:06] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-lame: (LAME encoder plugin for GStreamer), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[12:07] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: it looks so much better now, thanks for your help
[12:07] <naomi_> hi
[12:07] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: im one of those people who hates my display not being just oh so right
[12:07] <eitch> in which config file can I make X load kde instead of gnome?
[12:07] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,  keep fiddling  youll get it perfect
[12:07] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i've just done a dist-upgrade to breezy (from hoary), and it still *looks* like hoary, inasmuch as items in the task manager don't flash at me when i get an I.M. in gaim for example. is there anything else i should do to complete the installation?
[12:07] <crimsun> eitch: did you install Kubuntu or kubuntu-desktop?
[12:07] <naomi_> what are you guys talking about
[12:08] <crimsun> naomi_: /topic
[12:08] <eitch> ubuntu, not kubuntu. I tried kubuntu, but somehow it messed up. and now that my sys is working I don't want to reinstall
[12:08] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   what my monitor or laptop cant adjust  built in i adjust through darker themese
[12:08] <crimsun> eitch: you can install kubuntu-desktop, and it will add KDE (it won't replace GNOME)
[12:08] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: ah ok, cool
[12:08] <Daemonic> hmm, cdrecord just hung my machine while scanning the bus. any ideas?
[12:08] <pashaw> dailyrorschach,   uggg  cant type well on this old lappy
[12:08] <dailyrorschach> pashaw: unfortunatley this dell does hardware brightness but not contrast
[12:09] <kjdis> I have a wireless bridge that provides a standard ethernet connection connected to an ubu box, and it works, but after awhile the interface just goes down and I can't bring it back up, however at any time I can hook up my Windows laptop and it works fine, anyone have any ideas?
[12:09] <eitch> I have all already installed. and I am already running kde, only when I run startx it chooses gnome. when I start the X11 binary, then export the Display variable and type startkde I've got kde
[12:10] <eitch> so what I would like to know, is in which config is gnome the default, where I can change it?
[12:10] <graabein> i can't find gstreamer0.8-lame in synaptic. what do i have to add to sources.lst?
[12:10] <cmatheson> eitch: if you're using startx then you will need to edit your .xsession to start kde (i'm not sure what that command would be.. .maybe 'kde'
[12:10] <naomi_> my dad instald ubunto and i am the only one in my family that uses linex, but my dad he installs every thing
[12:10] <crimsun> eitch: if you're using startx, then you should specify it in ~/.xinitrc
[12:10] <naomi_> who are you
[12:10] <eitch> ok. thx. I'll try that both of you
[12:10] <crimsun> graabein: I just told you above.
[12:11] <cmatheson> naomi_: /whois
[12:11] <naomi_> i can't read fast
[12:11] <naomi_> i am in 5th grade
[12:11] <pashaw> naomi_,  this isnt a chatroom   its a help channel
[12:11] <graabein> crimsun, yes, multiverse/lib but i still get E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:12] <naomi_> oh bye
[12:12] <cmatheson> naomi_: that's really rad that you're using linux and all--but do you have any problems w/ linux?  this channel is to help people that can't get ubuntu working properly
[12:12] <naomi_> bye
[12:13] <parksy> crimsun: booted with acpi=off; alsamixer still finds no cards
[12:13] <crimsun> graabein: did you update?
[12:13] <crimsun> parksy: ok, try using noapic instead.
[12:13] <crimsun> (not noacpi but noapic)
[12:13] <parksy> crimsun: k, brb
[12:13] <graabein> crimsun, yep
[12:13] <Hikaru79> Hello =)
[12:14] <crimsun> graabein: apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:14] <graabein> W: Unable to locate package gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:15] <crimsun> graabein: then multiverse hasn't been added correctly.
[12:15] <crimsun> graabein: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin
[12:15] <graabein> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:15] <crimsun> that's breezy-backports, NOT breezy
[12:15] <crimsun> VERY big difference
[12:15] <graabein> crimsun, s**it
[12:17] <lightbright> wget is stuck and downlading something!  How can I STOP It?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> lightbright: ctrl-C
[12:17] <kjdavies> okay, I'm confused.
[12:17] <graabein> crimsun, great, i got it now. another newbie error on my part. thought i was getting the hang of this but
[12:17] <kjdavies> ubuntu disables root access on install.
[12:17] <kjdavies> I can't log into X as root.
[12:18] <MaFiaBoY> !sudo
[12:18] <lightbright> thoreauputic: whats  ctrl-C do?
[12:18] <crimsun> log in as the user you created.
[12:18] <kjdavies> I can't run admin programs under my user account (it doesn't accept the root password)
[12:18] <cmatheson> kjdavies: what root password?
[12:18] <MaFiaBoY> entr your user password
[12:18] <thoreauputic> lightbright: it interrupts the process - stops it
[12:18] <lightbright> thoreauputic:  ctrl-C did NOTHING
[12:18] <MaFiaBoY> there is no root password by default
[12:18] <kjdavies> *however*, if I go to the shell prompt (Ctrl-Alt-F1) it *does* let me log in as root
[12:18] <lightbright> thoreauputic: yes i did that! but its STILL running in background
[12:19] <kjdavies> cmatheson: I was prompted for a root password during installation
[12:19] <cmatheson> kjdavies: gdm is configured to not let you in as root, and you shouldn't change that
[12:19] <thoreauputic> lightbright: did you do it with the terminal in focus ?
[12:19] <lightbright> thoreauputic: I ever exit the terminal
[12:19] <cmatheson> kjdavies: you're not running ubuntu then
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> If I install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com then switch to the k7 kernel do I have to re install them? :S
[12:19] <lightbright> thoreauputic:  is there a way to see what exactly is running and killing it?
[12:19] <kjdavies> cmatheson: expert mode install?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> lightbright:  killall wget then
[12:19] <lightbright> thoreauputic: yes i did that! but its STILL running in background! I even exit the terminal
[12:19] <crimsun> Evil_Whisper: yes
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> thanks crimsun
[12:19] <cmatheson> kjdavies: oh ok
[12:19] <kjdavies> ... because I wanted to be *really* sure I'd be prompted for partitioning, rather than have it do its own thing
[12:19] <crimsun> Evil_Whisper: not the glx portion, just the kernel module
[12:19] <thoreauputic> lightbright:  or  pkill wget
[12:19] <cmatheson> kjdavies: in any case, you shouldn't be logging in to X as root and gdm is configured to not allow you to do that
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[12:19] <kjdavies> (answering the "why expert login when you don't even know *this*?" question)
[12:20] <kjdavies> I'm not.
[12:20] <kjdavies> ... though I did try.
[12:20] <lightbright> thoreauputic: you are a champion!  that worked! :)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> lightbright:  :)
[12:20] <pashaw> kjdavies, it prompts everyone for partitioning   just select manual
[12:20] <kjdavies> pashaw: I didn't know that and wanted to be sure...
[12:20] <kjdavies> I was logged in as $user, can su to root, but can't run gnome-($admintools)
[12:20] <lightbright> thoreauputic: so killall is always good to use for a program that wont quit?
[12:20] <MaFiaBoY> well anyway the thing is, gdm is configure to not let you login as root
[12:21] <MaFiaBoY> and it's bettter that way
[12:21] <thoreauputic> lightbright: usually works
[12:21] <kjdavies> ... but, if it looks for the *user* password rather than the root password, that should let me fix this.
[12:21] <cmatheson> kjdavies: just set up your user w/ sudo privileges
[12:21] <thoreauputic> lightbright: unless it is running as root - then sudo killall usually works
[12:21] <lightbright> thoreauputic: cool!  that was so annoying, wget kept downloading something and wouldnt stop with ctrl-c!
[12:22] <cmatheson> lightbright: you may need to add a '-9' to killall if it doesn't work w/out
[12:22] <kjdavies> cmatheson: the user has them, I think (first user account, etc.).  I was trying to use the root password to get into the admin tools.
[12:22] <thoreauputic> lightbright: a more extreme way is kill -9 `pidof processname`
[12:22] <lightbright> cmatheson: is there a GUI to see whats running? I know on Debian you can use ksysguard
[12:22] <lightbright> is there something similar for Ubuntu?
[12:22] <cmatheson> kjdavies: you don't need the root password if your first user is set up w/ sudo
[12:22] <kjdavies> thanks all.  I'm new to ubuntu (no, *really*?), so I'm still stumbling around a bit.
[12:22] <lightbright> thoreauputic:  is there a GUI to see whats running? I know on Debian you can use ksysguard
[12:22] <MaFiaBoY> lightbright > Apps > system tools > system monitor
[12:22] <cmatheson> lightbright: i don't use the gui much... i'm sure you could install ksysguard though
[12:23] <lightbright> MaFiaBoY: ok gangter thanks
[12:23] <SweetestSavage> kjdavies, I installed it not 5 days ago. I'm already feeling pretty avid with it ;) It's simple to learn.
[12:23] <thoreauputic> lightbright: there's a gnome system monitor, yes
[12:23] <MaFiaBoY> oh damn
[12:23] <MaFiaBoY> not the right nick
[12:23] <kjdavies> okay, afk.  Back next door to work on it some more, now that I know what's going wrong.
[12:23] <parksy> crimsun: tried noapic, acpi=off, both together: no change that i can see
[12:23] <kjdavies> thanks all.
[12:23] <lightbright> MagicFab: how you run that as root to kill something?
[12:23] <barb> printer error  --- cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[12:23] <thoreauputic> lightbright: I'm in fluxbox at the moment so I can't find it for you - probably under system - administration or something - or just run  "top" in a terminal
[12:24] <lightbright> HymnToLife:  how you run that as root to kill something?
[12:24] <HymnToLife> lightbright > you don't need to be root to kill something I think
[12:24] <lightbright> HymnToLife: ok
[12:24] <crimsun> parksy: ok, then it's time to check the bios to see if it's possible to forcibly allocate an irq to that expansion slot.
[12:24] <mrtwister> hello... i removed all php4 and installed php5 libs... now when i opening located at local computer web page in opera, it do not process .php and offer to download... i made addtype but it not work... what shall i do?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> lightbright: you only need sudo/ root to kill a process running as root, normally
[12:25] <cmatheson> mrtwister: you're going to need to install php if you want to host php pages...
[12:25] <parksy> crimsun: never done that before, are there certain values to avoid if it is possible
[12:25] <lightbright> thoreauputic: ok ty
[12:25] <crimsun> parksy: not really, you just want to ensure that your sound card is allocated an irq
[12:25] <mrtwister> cmatheson i installed php5, php5-cli etc etc... almost all with php5-
[12:26] <parksy> crimsun: ok, i'll check it out. thx again
[12:26] <ArabianMystic> Hello.
[12:26] <crimsun> parksy: try booting with "irqpoll" beforehand
[12:26] <crimsun> d'oh
[12:26] <ArabianMystic> What command is utilized to see what soundcard is running?
[12:26] <mrtwister> root@libretto:/home/andrius# apt-get install php5 \ Reading package lists... Done \ Building dependency tree... \ Done \ php5 is already the newest version.
[12:26] <cmatheson> mrtwister: ok, so if you're having problems w/ the apache.conf or php you should probably take it up in the channels for #apache or #php
[12:26] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:26] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, than you. Let me try that.
[12:27] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, "No such file or directory"
[12:27] <Yv12345vY> hi, i just re-installed ubuntu on my laptop and it's running rather slow, can anybody help??
[12:27] <barb> i get this error when doing - ./cupsys restart -|-  * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd -|- cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[12:27] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   lspci
[12:27] <tellyousomeday> try new drivers
[12:28] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: how old is the computer?
[12:28] <nuxGuru> how does one configure the browser to use an internal modem or where do you find the setting conrols for the modem?
[12:28] <barb> anyone know what status 99 is ?
[12:28] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I have used that command but it seems to list everything except my soundcard.
[12:28] <kjdis> I have a wireless bridge that provides a standard ethernet connection connected to an ubu box, and it works, but after awhile the interface just goes down and I can't bring it back up, however at any time I can hook up my Windows laptop and it works fine, anyone have any ideas?
[12:28] <AceMilo> i got a bigggg problem now, when i start up it says that x-sever cannot start
[12:28] <AceMilo> how can i fix it?
[12:28] <amias> is anyone else getting a corrupt universe package list from the gb.archive.ubuntu.com repo ? (dapper)
[12:28] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  as crimson asked   how old is the puter
[12:29] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it's new.
[12:29] <amias> AceMilo,  dapper or breezy ?
[12:29] <AceMilo> breezy
[12:29] <AceMilo> 5.10
[12:29] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: as in the motherboard is brand new, or you just bought it but it's 5 years old?
[12:29] <AceMilo> amias im booting now to get the exact error
[12:30] <amias> kjdis, you could have a slow ping going over the link to keep it up
[12:30] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, of course I didn't mean the latter - that would be foolish. It's a new laptop.
[12:30] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   what make model?
[12:30] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: then we'll need to see the output from lspci -v
[12:30] <kjdis> amias: I thought about that, but I'd rather try to fix the problem
[12:30] <crimsun> on pastebin, not here
[12:31] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Compaq Presario.
[12:31] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, let me do that quickly.
[12:31] <tellyousomeday> contact compaq support
[12:31] <AceMilo> "Failed to start the X server (your gui).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnos the problem?"
[12:31] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  post output from lspci -v   to pastebin
[12:31] <pashaw> !pastebin
[12:31] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:31] <AceMilo> please how can i fix it?
[12:31] <amias> kjdis, does windows have a special driver for it ? i know it connects via ethernet but it might need one
[12:32] <amias> AceMilo,  so look at the output , your problem will be listed near the bottom
[12:32] <kjdis> amias: no it is totally independant of the OS, it's just a network connection
[12:32] <AceMilo> looks like something is wrong with my mouse
[12:32] <AceMilo> touchpad
[12:32] <Yv12345vY> anybody here experience problems running ubuntu on a laptop??
[12:33] <pashaw> Yv12345vY,   could you be more vague?
[12:33] <AceMilo> failed to initialize core devives
[12:33] <AceMilo> devices*
[12:33] <amias> Yv12345vY,  yes thats why we are here
[12:33] <Yv12345vY> nope
[12:33] <Yv12345vY> let me try to explain
[12:33] <rinzai-shu> Yv12345vY: yeah my battery dies all the time...but i don't think it is Ubuntu's fault! ;-)
[12:33] <tellyousomeday> ive been running damn small linux on school laptops and theres no touchpand problem
[12:33] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6089
[12:34] <Yv12345vY> until i killed any acpi/power related processes the cpu load was at 100% and the hdd never stopped spinning
[12:34] <MaDSeN_> hi
[12:34] <Yv12345vY> once those got killed it's a little  bit better though not faster than windows (boo)
[12:34] <tellyousomeday> ubuntu isnt optimzed for laptops i think
[12:34] <MaDSeN_> can anyone help me?  ned to config my ati gfx card to ubuntu breezy
[12:34] <amias> AceMilo, i think you might need the restricted modules (for your kernel version) to support synaptics or alps touchpads
[12:34] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: sudo modprobe snd-atiixp
[12:34] <AceMilo> it was working fine
[12:34] <Yv12345vY> so i don't know if there is something else hanging around that's related to hte power problems
[12:34] <AceMilo> i restarted and it died
[12:34] <tellyousomeday> linux ati drivers are really annoying
[12:35] <Yv12345vY> that's killing my speed
[12:35] <amias> AceMilo, have you tried an external mouse ?
[12:35] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, it says it can't be located...
[12:35] <pashaw> Yv12345vY,   this a centrino laptop right
[12:35] <MaDSeN_> tellyousomeday, yes I know... I succeeded once in 5,04 .. this is the same gfx card
[12:35] <AceMilo> no, i think i know what caused it but i dont know how to fix it
[12:35] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: ok, then I'll need lspci -nv
[12:35] <AceMilo> i tried installing a usb joypad
[12:36] <amias> AceMilo, what do you reckon caused it ?
[12:36] <crimsun> it's probably the HDA model, but I need to cross-reference it
[12:36] <Yv12345vY> pashaw,  yes
[12:36] <amias> AceMilo, do you mean you configured a usb joypad or just plugged it in ?
[12:36] <tellyousomeday> do you remember the settings
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> Having an issue with suspend here: [4321588.437000]  ibm_acpi: dock device not present
[12:36] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6090
[12:36] <AceMilo> installed some drivers for it
[12:36] <nuxGuru> where does one find the configuration settings for an internal modem?
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> It's an IBM Thinkpad T43.
[12:37] <pashaw> Yv12345vY,   im installing Ubuntu on my centrino this weekend     doesnt help you now    but if i learn any tips-tricks ill pass em on
[12:37] <amias> AceMilo, have you tried uninstalling them ?
[12:37] <tellyousomeday> dialup or broadband
[12:37] <MaDSeN_> tellyousomeday, nope.. actually cant remember
[12:37] <tellyousomeday> or fax
[12:37] <AceMilo> no, i dont know how
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> I had suspend working before on a previous kernel.
[12:37] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[12:38] <tellyousomeday> sorry i cant help you when i tried i messed it up so bad ubuntu went from desktop to text based terminal
[12:38] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, "cannot be located"
[12:38] <ispiked> xenex: alright, so you're going to need to get the ndiswrapper-utils package on the CD you're using, too.
[12:38] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: loaded or located?
[12:38] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, located.
[12:38] <amias> anyone had bugs resuming with an nvidia chipset ? it hibernates fine and all is ok untill x restarts which just gives me a black screen and i can't switch vt's to fix it
[12:38] <Yv12345vY> pashaw, thanks man, i'll look around online; it did take a rather long time, at least a couple of hours
[12:38] <Mitja> Anyone knows how to prevent browser to download a php file from localhost?
[12:38] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: uname -r
[12:39] <Kyral> Mitja: instead of displaying it?
[12:39] <tellyousomeday> nforce4?
[12:39] <xenex> ispiked: what do you mean?
[12:39] <Mitja> Kyral: exactly
[12:39] <amias> Mitja, mu
[12:39] <ispiked> xenex: well there is a program that "wraps" the Windows drivers and allows windows to use them.
[12:39] <Kyral> Mitja: You have to have PHP installed
[12:39] <ArabianMystic> 2.4.27-2-386
[12:39] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, 2.4.27-2-386
[12:39] <Mitja> Kyral: i have, php4
[12:39] <crimsun> abarbaccia: uh...that's not a default Ubuntu kernel
[12:39] <Kyral> Mitja: then I dunno. I don't know much about PHP lol
[12:40] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, do you mean me?
[12:40] <ademilton> OI
[12:40] <crimsun> abarbaccia: sorry
[12:40] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: yes
[12:40] <pashaw> crimsun, nice call on the uname
[12:40] <ispiked> xenex: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils - you probably want the "i386" link at the bottom.
[12:40] <xenex> ispiked: i know what but what do you mean by "on the cd you're using"?
[12:40] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, what does that mean?
[12:40] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: are you even running Ubuntu?
[12:40] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, I couldn't get Ubuntu to run so I installed Debian.
[12:41] <ademilton> SOU DO BRAZIL
[12:41] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: -ECHANNEL
[12:41] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[12:41] <ArabianMystic> -echannel?
[12:41] <ubuntu> say does anyone know how to get sata2 to work? i mean i can see my hard drive but it tells me it's 650mb not 160gb and that i can't write to it
[12:41] <MaDSeN_> Sex er som software, det er best gratis
[12:41] <MaDSeN_> hahahaha
[12:41] <tellyousomeday> ubuntu is based on debian
[12:41] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  you should be in the #debian channel
[12:41] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: hint: install the alsa-modules-$(uname -r) package for your kernel
[12:41] <thoreauputic> ArabianMystic: debian != ubuntu
[12:41] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: next time, please use the proper support channel.
[12:42] <ispiked> xenex: you said you're going to put the windows drivers on a cd.
[12:42] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, crimsun, I apologise. The #debian folks are very rude and I understand that Debian and Ubuntu are basically the same thing?
[12:42] <xenex> ispiked: no i used the cd that came with the wireless card. i also put the .sys and the .inf on a floppy just in case
[12:42] <crimsun> ArabianMystic: very much not the same thing. Same base but that's about it.
[12:42] <ispiked> xenex: ah, okay.
[12:43] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   we could probably help you get Ubuntu running  and yes i know all about the #debian folks
[12:43] <thoreauputic> ArabianMystic: your sound issue is with alsa and a 2.4 kernel - Ubuntu doesn't use  a 2.4.* kernel
[12:43] <xenex> ispiked: which one do i want to download?
[12:43] <parksy> crimsun: pretty sure i set IRQs for the pci cards, but no change afaict
[12:43] <ispiked> xenex: the i386 one.
[12:43] <xenex> ispiked: all of the 11 files?
[12:43] <ispiked> xenex: any mirror will do.
[12:43] <ispiked> xenex: those are just mirrors.
[12:43] <xenex> ispiked: oh
[12:43] <ArabianMystic> crimsun, pashaw, thoreauputic, I apologise. In truth, I wanted to run Ubuntu and still would but I couldn't get X to run on it.
[12:43] <crimsun> parksy: you don't need to set it for all of them, just the one sound card.
[12:44] <ubuntu> say does anyone know how to get sata2 to work? i mean i can see my hard drive but it tells me it's 650mb not 160gb and that i can't write to it
[12:44] <crimsun> parksy: do you use your printer port at all?
[12:44] <xenex> ispiked: it just takes me back to the main page
[12:44] <parksy> crimsun: well, i couldn't really tell which was which..."slot 1 irq", "slot 2 irq"
[12:44] <ericfromlq> im installing ubuntu on an imac right now. only the left and down arrow key works on the keyboard. its so hard. ahh!!!!!
[12:44] <parksy> crimsun: no, not at all
[12:44] <crimsun> parksy: I would disable the lpt port in bios, then reboot.
[12:44] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  come back if you try again x is easy
[12:44] <ispiked> xenex: http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb should work.
[12:44] <toya_> hi all
[12:44] <Paradoxx> !permissions
[12:44] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[12:44] <xenex> ispiked: should i add that to the floppy disk?
[12:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I have a copy of the Xorg on my other partition - would you care to take a look at it?
[12:45] <parksy> crimsun: leave the irqs set like they are, or unset them when i do this?
[12:45] <Nei> would someone know why w3m image display does not work in ubuntu console(framebuffer)?
[12:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, the Xorg log I mean.
[12:45] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  we cant help you much as we were expecting you to have tools Ubuntu uses preinstalled
[12:45] <crimsun> parksy: revert to prior setting
[12:45] <parksy> crimsun: k thx, brb
[12:45] <ispiked> xenex: yes.
[12:45] <Paradoxx> what would be command to enable write privaledges for a user for a folder and all its subfolders/files?
[12:45] <QMario>  Hello everyone!!!  :)
[12:45] <QMario> Hello Seveas and thoreauputic!!!
[12:45] <ispiked> breezy installs perl by default, no?
[12:45] <crimsun> yes.
[12:45] <ispiked> crimsun: thanks.
[12:46] <toya_> i installed g++ and g++ 4.0 from synaptic package manager, and when i tried something like g++ -o program test.cpp it gives me a long continuous error message
[12:46] <QMario> How do I make a new user in Ubuntu using the terminal?
[12:46] <xenex> ispiked: ok done
[12:46] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  is your X running now in debain?
[12:46] <toya_> QMario, i think you u do 'sudo adduser username'
[12:46] <thoreauputic> QMario:  adduser <username>
[12:46] <QMario> Okay, thank you!!! :)
[12:46] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, ironically, it is.
[12:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   you can use 90percent of those settings to fix your old problem
[12:47] <xenex> ispiked: what next?
[12:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   make a copy of what works now  before you forget  :)
[12:47] <ispiked> xenex: well, you'll want to save this page so you can have something to go off of when you install it: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[12:48] <Yv12345vY> what are power management utilities i can use??
[12:48] <xenex> ispiked: ok and when i install ubuntu will it remove windows for me?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> xenex: if you want it to, yes :)
[12:49] <Yv12345vY> xenex, not if you tell it not to
[12:49] <Iamcrazy> how can i install ubuntu on my old P1? it cant autoboot the cd   :(
[12:49] <ispiked> xenex: you can do that, yes.
[12:49] <ericfromlq> xenex: if you do a complete format. yes. if you partition, no
[12:49] <toya_> so can anyone help me with my g++ problem?
[12:49] <xenex> ok because windows pisses me off
[12:49] <Sh4d0x> i can't configure ma gmail in kmail, :s is this normal, does kmail have to work in gnome environment?
[12:49] <ericfromlq> well then just completely format xenex
[12:50] <thoreauputic> toya_:  sudo apt-get inatall build-essential
[12:50] <xenex> alright i will do that
[12:50] <unity> is there something that lets me see system load and procsser load, like kde's ksygsuard?
[12:50] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, here is the Xorg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6091
[12:50] <xenex> do you have an estimate on how long it will take to install ubuntu and remove windows?
[12:50] <toya_> thoreauputic, ok i'll try
[12:50] <thoreauputic> toya_:  sorry Install
[12:50] <Xkiddiegrinders> Question!!!! Is there a "safe mode" I can start up in because my screen is not able to handle the resolution setting I set on a different monitor
[12:50] <pashaw> unity,   command?  or  running ap    desklets
[12:50] <ericfromlq> give yourself about 40 minutes, in case something goes wrong
[12:51] <ispiked> xenex: depends. maybe an hour or so.
[12:51] <xenex> ericfromlq: are you talking to me?
[12:51] <ericfromlq> yeah xenex
[12:51] <ericfromlq> soryr
[12:51] <xenex> i recently just installed windows so it shouldnt be big
[12:51] <unity> pashaw, something graphical, like a frontend to top
[12:51] <xenex> 32.4GB free space 37.2GB total space
[12:52] <ericfromlq> xenex, have you downloaded and burned the iso yet?
[12:52] <xenex> ericfromlq: yes i have the live and install, although i requested ubuntu cds they havent come
[12:52] <QMario> How do I add a user with no password, such as anonymous?
[12:52] <Sh4d0x> "could not start proces pop3s" :s can someone tell me whats wrong when receiving such a messages?
[12:52] <Xkiddiegrinders> Question!!!! Is there a "safe mode" I can start up in because my screen is not able to handle the resolution setting I set on a different monitor
[12:52] <toya_> thoreauputic, how do i run my program now
[12:53] <parksy> crimsun: parallel port disabled, still no sound...lspci shows the device to have irq 255 though, so i guess that's bad eh?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> toya_: erm - same way as before I assume ( didn't see what you did)
[12:53] <ericfromlq> xenex: they took over 2 months for my cds to come. just letting you know. but yea when you pop in the install cd i would recommend partitioning it. just in case you need windows for something.
[12:53] <Yv12345vY> how can i upgrade glib??
[12:53] <crimsun> parksy: not necessarily bad, but what does /proc/interrupts say about the sound chipset?
[12:53] <pashaw> unity,   use  gdesklets  or adesklets
[12:53] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, did you look at that log?
[12:53] <toya_> thoreauputic, what i did was g++ -o program test.cpp
[12:54] <xenex> ericfromlq: how much gb does ubuntu take?
[12:54] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  yeah   system booted for you  just x  wont load?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> toya_: and what happens now if you run that again?
[12:54] <unity> pashaw, thx
[12:54] <toya_> thoreauputic, in windows i used something called msys which is like some kind of mini linux environment i think, and all i had to do to run the program was type the name
[12:54] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, It seems that way...
[12:54] <parksy> crimsun: afaict, nothing in /proc/interrupts related to the sound card
[12:54] <toya_> thoreauputic, if i do g++ -o program test.cpp i think it would compile it again as program
[12:54] <thoreauputic> toya_: I asume you are compiling it , not running it?
[12:55] <toya_> toya_, oh now i want to run i
[12:55] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, is there anything that can be done to resolve the issue?
[12:55] <crimsun> parksy: hmm, that's the root cause of the issue (not being allocated an irq)
[12:55] <toya_> thoreauputic, oh now i want to run it
[12:55] <ericfromlq> xenex: sorry, i dont have the exact number of GB it takes up. you have 37 though. so i dont think you need to worry. my guess would be a little under 2gb
[12:55] <thoreauputic> toya_:  ./programname  (assuming you made it executable)
[12:55] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   what error  you looking at  i didnt see the crash just    items it couldnt find
[12:55] <parksy> crimsun: ah, ok, i get that.  i'm going afk for a bit, but i'll play around with it later.  thanks for the help thus far
[12:56] <Xkiddiegrinders> CAN ANYONE HELLLLLLLP ME!
[12:56] <toya_> thoreauputic, ok thanks a lot, so ./ is to run exectuables?
[12:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, right. for some reason, whenever I install, stuff is left out.
[12:56] <ispiked> xenex: < 1 GB probably.
[12:56] <xenex> ericfromlq: okay because i think i should keep windows (for photoshop and dreamweaver since i am a web designer) and use rest of the space for ubuntu. would that be smart or no?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> toya_: from the same directory, yes
[12:56] <ericfromlq> oh.... less than a gig. thanks ispiked
[12:56] <toya_> thoreauputic, thank you
[12:56] <ispiked> xenex: sounds good to start out with.
[12:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, during the installation nothing is wrong and it finishes without incident; however, when I start the thing I get missing file warnings all over th plae
[12:56] <ArabianMystic> *place
[12:56] <ericfromlq> that would be REALLY smart
[12:56] <ispiked> ericfromlq: well, it fits on a CD... I know it's compressed, but it can't be compresed that much.
[12:57] <ericfromlq> ispiked:true true
[12:57] <xenex> hmm okay
[12:57] <thoreauputic> toya_:  chmod +x programname to set the executable bit
[12:57] <xenex> so
[12:57] <xenex> ill format my computer
[12:57] <xenex> what should i install first?
[12:57] <xenex> windows or ubuntu
[12:57] <borfast> hi everyone
[12:57] <thoreauputic> xenex: windows
[12:57] <xenex> ok
[12:57] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   pastebin your current X config
[12:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, from Debian?
[12:58] <ispiked> xenex: why would you want to format?
[12:58] <will_> I'm setting up dual boot, my ubuntu is on hda, and windows on hdb it's my understanding that I have to remap the order in grub so windows thinks it's first, consequently I have created a grub entry with 'rootnoverify (hd1,0) \n map (hd0)(hd1) \n map (hd1)(hd0) \n makeactive \n chainloader +1
[12:58] <borfast> guys, has anyone tried Blender 2.40 on Ubuntu (5.10)? I downloaded the dynamic version but it's sllllooooowww.... has anyone experienced this? does anyone know what it is and how can I fix it?
[12:58] <xenex> i have all this crap on windows
[12:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   sure
[12:59] <totolezero> tupuduku
[12:59] <xenex> i want to keep windows minimal, strictly photoshop and dreamweaver only
[12:59] <will_> but on the map line I get "error 11: unrecognized devicer string"
[12:59] <xenex> and for everything else i will use ubuntu for
[12:59] <totolezero> hey low how are u ?
[12:59] <nitinshantharam> hey guys, the installer is freezing loading the sd_mod scsi module at the beginning of the installer i have a ide drive as my primary and i have a scsi pci card with a 300gb drive as my secondary
[12:59] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, how would I get ahold of that? I understand that Xorg is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log - don't know about XFree86 though.
[12:59] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   im burning buncha crap off my other laptop so i have room for Ubuntu
[12:59] <totolezero> hello everybody how do you do ?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ArabianMystic: no, look at /etc/X11/
[01:00] <Crazy_Man> is it possible to install ubuntu-desktop without a graphical login?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ArabianMystic: XF86Config-4 would be the file you want
[01:00] <ArabianMystic> thoreauputic, Thank you.
[01:00] <totolezero> hello everybody, can you hear me ?
[01:00] <totolezero> you you ??
[01:01] <borfast> xenex: now wanting to sound a linux zealot but if all you want from windows is photoshop and dreamweaver, I advise you to look at The Gimp to replace Photoshop (unless you need to do some real pro photo work) and learn how to make websites by writing the code yourself (and, if you want, using Nvu to layout the primary sketch and then working from there)
[01:01] <rinzai-shu> totolezero: i cannot hear you
[01:01] <pashaw> totolezero,   1 sec my speakers are turned down
[01:01] <xenex> borfast: yeah i know that already, but photoshop suits my needs well
[01:01] <MrRio> lol
[01:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6092
[01:01] <totolezero> bite cul
[01:01] <borfast> xenex: that was supposed to be "not wanting" isntead of "now wanting" ;)
[01:01] <totolezero> tiens prends a dans chatte salope
[01:02] <rinzai-shu> borfast: linux zealot!
[01:02] <totolezero> tu aimes a hein !!!
[01:02] <toya_> thoreauputic, can you help me with installing java too?
[01:02] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, no wait, sorry.
[01:02] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, that's the wrong one./
[01:02] <totolezero> re
[01:02] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6093
[01:03] <nalioth> totolezero: anglais ici, s'il vous plait
[01:03] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, lol
[01:03] <borfast> I have one more question: I activated Gnome's typing break feature but its timer always gets reset a few minutes before reaching the intended time for the break. is this a known bug? has anyone else experienced this?
[01:03] <thoreauputic> nalioth: and without the language he was using in French :)
[01:03] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I'm used to "ctrl+c" and "ctrl+v" for copy and paste - linux needs context menus for some reason.
[01:04] <nalioth> thoreauputic: that's why i asked him to leave in the first place, lol
[01:04] <ispiked> xenex: so once you get ubuntu installed the first thing you'll want to do is install ndiswrapper.
[01:04] <xenex> ispiked: ok
[01:04] <thoreauputic> nalioth: well, I think a +q is warranted ;)
[01:04] <ispiked> xenex: which can sometimes be a hastle...
[01:04] <thoreauputic> nalioth: but I assumed so, yes :)
[01:04] <ispiked> xenex: that page I linked you to ought to help, though.
[01:04] <nalioth> thoreauputic: c'est la vie
[01:04] <xenex> ispiked: i hope :\
[01:05] <ispiked> xenex: do you have access to another computer with internet access that you can use when you're offline on ubuntu?
[01:05] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  your first post was your log file not the bad xorg.conf    but i see your working X is using vesa  which is basic stuff   that will work in Ubuntu
[01:05] <xenex> ispiked: no but i do have a ethernet cord i can plug in
[01:05] <ispiked> xenex: ah, good.
[01:05] <cyphase> does anyone know what's taking so long with CD shipments?
[01:05] <ispiked> xenex: then we can help if you run into any troubles.
[01:05] <nalioth> cyphase: they always take a long time
[01:05] <xenex> ispiked: yup :] 
[01:06] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   id guess Ubuntu was trying to be clever and using a more device specific driver and that needed adjusting
[01:06] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay, how would I get that to work?  And as for the missing files etc?
[01:06] <ispiked> xenex: I've messed around with ndiswrapper some, so if I'm in here just ping me and I'll try to help.
[01:06] <Iamcrazy> how can i install ubuntu on my old P1? it cant autoboot the cd   :(
[01:06] <xenex> ispiked: alright
[01:06] <cheatersrealm> anyone wnt to point me to a guide on intsalling nvidia video card drivers?  or just tell me what I need to apt-get install
[01:07] <Terrasque> Iamcrazy, you live up to your nick, I see
[01:07] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   missing files  is too vague to guess to be honest mkissing what a certain device module
[01:07] <ilba7r> !firmware
[01:07] <ubotu> ilba7r: What?
[01:07] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, guess what!
[01:07] <ispiked> Iamcrazy: did you configure it to boot to the cd?
[01:07] <Knowerrors> Hey all, anybody have midi playback working on ubuntu? I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736&highlight=play+midi and am having problems
[01:07] <xenex> ispiked: i just hope my video card wont be a bitch also
[01:07] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I'm sorry, I didn't understand any of that.
[01:07] <ispiked> xenex: what kind is it?
[01:07] <Iamcrazy> ispiked: no, i cant change tht settings in the bios
[01:07] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: the sky fell on your head?
[01:07] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, I fixed my master boot record, I am now in Windows again :-D
[01:07] <Terrasque> ouch
[01:07] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   keep a copy of that debain X config    for reference  if and when you try another distro
[01:07] <Haukkari> Hello! Is is possible to use KDE with Ubuntu or should I go with Kubuntu?
[01:07] <ispiked> Iamcrazy: weird.
[01:07] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: my condolences
[01:07] <xenex> ispiked: nvidia geforce2 gogl
[01:08] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, lol, at least I'm not getting GRUB ERROR 17
[01:08] <Iamcrazy> ispiked: isn't there another way to install it?
[01:08] <cyphase> nalioth, how long?
[01:08] <cyphase> 4-6 weeks?
[01:08] <mwe> some old bioses don't allow you to boot from cds
[01:08] <nalioth> Haukkari: kubuntu-desktop gives you a well rounded desktop, but you can install the kde things you want
[01:08] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay...?
[01:08] <ispiked> xenex: hrm... I think nvidia makes linux drivers for that.
[01:08] <nalioth> cyphase: sometimes a couple weeks more than that
[01:08] <ispiked> xenex: might be wrong, though.
[01:08] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   i even guess    what would be missing or why         unless i saw the errors themselves
[01:08] <mwe> you can use a boot floppy, in that case
[01:08] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: it wont be long until you get IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL :)
[01:08] <xenex> ispiked: i havent found any drivers for windows for my video card
[01:08] <Haukkari> nalioth: so, which one should I go with? :/
[01:08] <cyphase> nalioth, i ordered mine september 23rd
[01:08] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, believe it or not, that's my only BSOD problem
[01:08] <nalioth> Haukkari: kubuntu-desktop is fine
[01:09] <ispiked> xenex: ouch.
[01:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   acck sorry laptop typijng cramping up       i even guess about your missing files unless i saw the errors
[01:09] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, I think it's the sound card that does it... I have a 1999 (pre-xp) Soundblaster Live! Value card
[01:09] <Iamcrazy> ispiked: isn't there another way to install it?
[01:09] <Haukkari> nalioth: yeah, I haven't installed anything yet...
[01:09] <ispiked> xenex: I'm sure it'll work.
[01:09] <slide> How do i add ~/bin to the all users PATH?
[01:09] <Haukkari> nalioth: still running windows
[01:09] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I guess I'll just try and reinstall Ubuntu and see what happens. Will you still be here in around an hour?
[01:09] <ispiked> xenex: may not be able to to 3-d, though.
[01:09] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: hehe :) its generally a driver problem. "generally"
[01:09] <Nekomages> anyone remember what package gnome display manager is in?
[01:09] <Nekomages> gdm isn't working with it ^^
[01:09] <xenex> ispiked: what do you mean by 3d?
[01:09] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, for my setup it's <i>always</i> a driver problem
[01:09] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: and it pops up VERY often on win installs
[01:09] <nalioth> Haukkari: i have x/k/ubuntu installed on my box
[01:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ill be here most of the night good channel
[01:09] <thoreauputic> slide:  edit /et/bash.bashrc  IIRC
[01:09] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, it never popped up on my win install
[01:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it is. I feel at home :)
[01:10] <slide> thoreauputic, ty :)
[01:10] <ispiked> xenex: like if you try to play games or something...
[01:10] <Haukkari> nalioth: so the ubuntu from ubuntulinux.org, not from kubuntu.org? :)
[01:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, unlike #debian... ptui!
[01:10] <thoreauputic> slide: sorry I mean /etc/* of course
[01:10] <xenex> ispiked: oh i quit gaming, its not my thing anymore.
[01:10] <slide> yea hehe
[01:10] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, it have popped up on around 70% of my windows installs
[01:10] <Iamcrazy> ispiked: isn't there another way to install ubuntu?
[01:10] <nalioth> Haukkari: ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are all the same thing, from the same people
[01:10] <ispiked> xenex: yeah, never has been mine.
[01:10] <ArabianMystic> Thank you all for your sincerity and advice.
[01:10] <ispiked> Iamcrazy: well...
[01:10] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, 70%? how many installs have you made? o_O
[01:10] <Haukkari> nalioth: really? That's good to know. Thanks!
[01:10] <ArabianMystic> especially pashaw and crimsun.
[01:10] <xenex> ispiked: but i do play runescape.com
[01:10] <ispiked> Iamcrazy: don't really know. does google tell you anything?
[01:10] <ArabianMystic> bbl!
[01:10] <mwe> Iamcrazy: I believe there is a wiki on how to initiate the install from a boot floppy if you can't boot from a cd
[01:10] <ispiked> xenex: that uses flash, no?
[01:10] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, a lot.. I like experimenting and testing new stuff :)
[01:11] <xenex> ispiked: it uses java
[01:11] <ispiked> xenex: yeah, there's java for linux. :)
[01:11] <Iamcrazy> mwe AND ispiked: i'll have a look
[01:11] <xenex> ispiked: ok great, do they have flash for linux also?
[01:11] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, I don't generally install windows a lot considering I have to talk to Ahmed everytime I must reactivate ;)
[01:11] <ispiked> xenex: yeah.
[01:11] <xenex> ok
[01:11] <mwe> Iamcrazy: wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <Hikaru79> xenex, they have a flash PLAYER, but not the macromedia flash studio creator thing.
[01:11] <ispiked> xenex: the only thing that's not as great is embedded media (in the browser).
[01:11] <xenex> oh :\
[01:11] <Iamcrazy> mwe: ty
[01:12] <Nei> hello, my w3m doesn't display images, would someone help me please?
[01:12] <xenex> Hikaru79: doesnt matter, i suck at making flashes anyway :p
[01:12] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, haha :) I work at a pc repair shop.. I call microsoft activation line about 2-3 times a week
[01:12] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, sucks for you :D
[01:12] <Yv12345vY> has anybody been successful in getting gaim2 beta1 to work?
[01:12] <nalioth> Nei: is it supposed to display images?
[01:12] <cmatheson> Yv12345vY: do you compile or run well?
[01:12] <Crazy_Man> did anyone answer my question?
[01:12] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: I long for the day the penguin rules the desktop :(
[01:12] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, but linux isn't a great gaming platform
[01:13] <nalioth> fractalmbrown: that is changing, tho
[01:13] <Nei> nalioth, yes it is. I installed w3mimg ubuntu package but it doesn't work :( works fine on my debian
[01:13] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, that'll only happen once a distro claims copyright/trademark/some other loophole on C++
[01:13] <fractalmbrown> lol
[01:13] <scribbles> well for most windows users it requires a complete rewiring of how you think about how an OS runs
[01:13] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, what makes you say that? It can even run windows games, at native fps speed.
[01:13] <schlomo> re
[01:13] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, I had no idea it could run EXE files (lol)
[01:13] <crimsun> schlomo: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, gcc-3.4, and fakeroot installed?
[01:13] <Hikaru79> Yv12345vY, I have. multiple times.
[01:14] <Yv12345vY> cmatheson, i'm trying to compile
[01:14] <Yv12345vY> Hikaru79, did it ever tell you that glib isn't valid?
[01:14] <cmatheson> Yv12345vY: so what is the error you're getting?
[01:14] <nalioth> Nei: i'm not familiar with w3m, i use links2 instead. perhaps you could recompiile it and make sure the flags are set?
[01:14] <kjdavies-md> okay, I'm now in and can access admin tool
[01:14] <kjdavies-md> s
[01:14] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: thru wine, a windows api layer. It's not perfect yet, but can already run a lot of apps
[01:14] <Yv12345vY> Hikaru79, it tells me that i don't have glib 2.0 or larger
[01:14] <Hikaru79> Yv12345vY, are you sure you have the glib-dev package?
[01:14] <kjdavies-md> I'm not getting sound yet, though.
[01:14] <Yv12345vY> i'm going to check
[01:14] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, ah, I've heard of WINE
[01:14] <Hikaru79> Remember, when you're compiling something, you need the -dev package of its libarries, not just the library itself
[01:14] <Hikaru79> i.e, you need libgtk-dev, not just libgtk
[01:14] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: apt-get build-dep gaim
[01:15] <Yv12345vY> crimsun, thanks will try
[01:15] <Hikaru79> Or do what crimsun says :) That works too.
[01:15] <kjdavies-md> apparently the system *has* identified the sound card (I see the correct module listed in the config files), but it tells me I have no sound cards installed when I check sound configuration
[01:15] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, isn't WINE like the inverse of cygwin, except that cygwin can't run native apps?
[01:15] <Yv12345vY> Hikaru79, doing "sudo apt-get install glib-dev" says the package isn't found
[01:15] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: what sound chipset?
[01:15] <Hikaru79> fractalmbrown, no. WINE tries to emulate actual win32 binaries. cygwin is like trying to build linux on top of windows.
[01:15] <Nei> nalioth, maybe I have to compile it myself :/ annoying. thanks for trying to help
[01:15] <kjdavies-md> via82xx
[01:15] <Hikaru79> Yv12345vY, it's not called exactly that. But check synaptic
[01:15] <Yv12345vY> crimsun, do you have a source for that?
[01:15] <Hikaru79> Search for glib
[01:15] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: havent used cygwin much, so can't answer that
[01:15] <Hikaru79> You'll find one with -dev at the end
[01:15] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: a what?
[01:15] <Yv12345vY> Hikaru79, what does that mean?  sorry, i'm a noob
[01:15] <Hikaru79> The actual name has a version number after it
[01:15] <kjdavies-md> or rather, "crimsun: via82xx"
[01:15] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque: oh.
[01:16] <Hikaru79> You've never used synaptic?
[01:16] <Hikaru79> type: sudo synaptic
[01:16] <xenex> ispiked: would you suggest ubuntu or kubuntu for daily use?
[01:16] <Hikaru79> In a terminal window
[01:16] <Fujoor> hey guys, i have done a server install of ubunty, if i want to install the xubuntu desktop, is it enough to type apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, or do i need to do something more?
[01:16] <Hikaru79> And check it out :)
[01:16] <Yv12345vY> crimsun, it says i need to put an URI in the sources list
[01:16] <Yv12345vY> Hikaru79, will do
[01:16] <ispiked> xenex: I personally like GNOME.
[01:16] <nalioth> xenex: use both every other day, and then make your own decision
[01:16] <Nei> I personally like enlightenment ;)
[01:16] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: no, in a Terminal, type: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[01:16] <xenex> ispiked: is there anything different between the two except for the looks?
[01:16] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: you need deb-src lines for main
[01:16] <ispiked> xenex: they use different desktop environments.
[01:17] <xenex> yeah the looks
[01:17] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, but anyway, right now im surfing web (firefox), playing music from my usb HDD (rhythmbox), and have just played World of Warcraft via a patched WINE.. And NO windows! :-D
[01:17] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, lol
[01:17] <ispiked> xenex: kde and gnome have different applications, too.
[01:17] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: cat /proc/asound/cards reports only that card?
[01:17] <xenex> ispiked: oh ok i understand now
[01:17] <xenex> ispiked: so basically its like a windows 2000 and windows xp comparison
[01:18] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, the only negative thing that came out of this fiasco with Ubuntu messing up my MBR was the fact that I ended up frying 512 megs of ram
[01:18] <ispiked> xenex: sorta kinda.
[01:18] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, I f$#king hate ESD
[01:18] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, how on earth did you manage that?
[01:18] <ispiked> xenex: google "kde vs gnome".
[01:18] <xenex> ispiked: ok
[01:18] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, ESD... um. I had to remove a stick of RAM to put my shiny new HDD in
[01:18] <kjdavies-md> crimsun: "0 VIA8237 /*..*/ 1 MPU-401 UART"
[01:18] <kjdavies-md> shows two entries here
[01:18] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: then I need the output from amixer on pastebin
[01:18] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, and I didn't ground myself for a split second
[01:19] <Terrasque> xenex, does chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream taste best?
[01:19] <gorann> hi people
[01:19] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, max bad luck :(
[01:19] <xenex> Terrasque: chocolate :] 
[01:19] <barb> hi i'm having trubble with cups can any one tell me what is meant by " * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[01:19] <barb> cupsd: Child exited with status 99!"
[01:19] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, okay, be a sec
[01:19] <schlomo> re
[01:19] <gorann> how can update hoary to breezy? i did this, i went to etc/apt/sources.list and i replace every hoary by breezy, and the run apt-get update, but nothings happens :(
[01:19] <schlomo> compilation about snd-hda-intel on 2.6.12.10-i86
[01:19] <Terrasque> xenex, and that basically sums up kde vs gnome :D someone likes this best, some like that. its a matter of taste
[01:20] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, yeah, now I'll actually have to use virtual memory ;) But I'm not all that torn up. Shit happens, I just have to pay for some shit...
[01:20] <bob832> hi there...trying to setup wpa in ubuntu however, i'm running into a problem that i'm not sure how to fix...here is what i am getting with the wpa_supplicant command:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6094
[01:20] <schlomo> 386
[01:20] <crimsun> schlomo: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, gcc-3.4, and fakeroot installed?
[01:20] <Yv12345vY> crimsun, what do you mean by deb-src lines for main
[01:20] <schlomo> let met check ;-)
[01:20] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, maybe dropping the RAM by accident did it too... I'm a major klutz, and I probably shouldn't trust myself in my computer
[01:20] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:20] <crimsun> Yv12345vY: deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:20] <MrRio> fractalmbrown, lol, and turn it off next time aswell
[01:21] <barb> cups help ?
[01:21] <fractalmbrown> MrRio, I always make sure of it lol
[01:21] <Crazy_Man> does ubuntu-desktop install the graphical login by default?
[01:21] <crimsun> Crazy_Man: yes.
[01:21] <xenex> ispiked: i think i will use ubuntu. since gnome needs 384ram and kde needs 512ram. i only have 512ram so forget kubuntu :x
[01:21] <Crazy_Man> is there an option to get rid of it?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> Crazy_Man: yes
[01:21] <schlomo> crimsun : install fakeroot and build-essential
[01:21] <barb> !cupsd
[01:21] <schlomo> done
[01:21] <ubotu> barb: Are you on ritalin?
[01:21] <crimsun> Crazy_Man: as in remove the package or prevent it from starting?
[01:22] <barb> !cupsys
[01:22] <ubotu> barb: Wish i knew
[01:22] <barb> !cups
[01:22] <ubotu> barb: No idea
[01:22] <Crazy_Man> crimsun, either
[01:22] <crimsun> schlomo: so you have all the packages I named installed?
[01:22] <Crazy_Man> prolly remove the pakage
[01:22] <xenex> "Some people claim KDE is the best choice for beginners" <- heh that applies to me :\
[01:22] <borfast> xenex: Kubuntu runs just fine with only 512 MB of RAM
[01:22] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, I have a friend that's a professional walking catastrophe. He's stabbed himself in the eye with a screwdriver, walked (in broad daylight) right into an iron pole... and a hundred less interesting things... anyway. He's mucking about in his computer daily, and have yet to destroy anything valuable
[01:22] <schlomo> crimsun : right now yes
[01:22] <crimsun> Crazy_Man: echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:22] <ElPenguin> borfast, ergh, KDE ate ram like a whore when i was using it
[01:22] <schlomo> crimsun : I have to install fakeroot and build-essential
[01:22] <crimsun> Crazy_Man: then, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:22] <Crazy_Man> ok
[01:23] <schlomo> crimsun : done
[01:23] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, he must be god or something ;)
[01:23] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown: so I guess you were just extremely unlucky
[01:23] <crimsun> schlomo: ok, add your user to the 'src' group
[01:23] <nix4me> is there a command to type to see what video driver im using?
[01:23] <crimsun> schlomo: then log in on a separate console
[01:23] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, most definitely. And it was part of a matched pair, too, so I'll have to get a new pair if I want it fixed
[01:23] <bob832> nix4me:  fglrxinfo
[01:23] <schlomo> crimsun : running screen to help friend
[01:23] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown,  ouch!
[01:23] <borfast> ElPenguin: I never said it was a good Desktop environment but it does run fine with only 512 MB of RAM ;) Besides, if you go that way, given enough time for it to run, no amount of RAM will ever be enoug for KDE, since it will always slowly eat it away ;)
[01:23] <schlomo> crimsun : so done :)
[01:23] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, http://www.kjdavies.org/drop/ubuntu/amixer-output
[01:24] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, blame it on windows :) there, feel better?
[01:24] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: sec.
[01:24] <kjdavies-md> (longer than I wanted to paste by hand...)
[01:24] <fractalmbrown> Terrasque, however, if I find some more 400mhz DDR RAM, I could always try putting it in slot two, so Dual Channel won't muck with it
[01:24] <schlomo> crimsun : then ? don't tell me I have to recompile my own kernel :)
[01:24] <crimsun> schlomo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[01:24] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, sounds like a plan
[01:24] <DonVincenzo> If I want to have the opportunity to uninstall a package Icompiled from source, is it enough to just keep the Makefile, to be able to perform make uninstall ?
[01:24] <schlomo> crimsun : ok
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with suspend and hibernate on a ThinkPad T43, can anyone help?
[01:25] <Terrasque> DonVincenzo, it varies.. greatly from package to package
[01:25] <mwe> DonVincenzo: use checkinstall.
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> It starts to suspend, but wakes up immediately.
[01:25] <mwe> DonVincenzo: checkinstall creates a debian package and installs it for you
[01:25] <schlomo> crimsun : done
[01:25] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: are you using speakers directly or routing through a stereo receiver?
[01:26] <kjdavies-md> speakers directly
[01:26] <crimsun> schlomo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[01:26] <schlomo> crimsun : yep
[01:26] <crimsun> schlomo: choose "yes" for pnp, "yes" for debugging symbols, remove the "all" selection, and choose the "hda-intel" driver
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> The ThinkWiki suggests that the linuxant modem driver (which I am using) may cause issues.
[01:26] <Terrasque> fractalmbrown, anyway, im tired. 1:26 here :/ good night and merry christmas
[01:26] <CppIsWeird> i installed kubuntu on an external usb hard drive, and the bootloader comes up, and i select kubuntu, and it goes to a black screen then has an error that says something to the effect of cannot find hard drive and i think an error code 25
[01:26] <schlomo> crimsun : ok
[01:27] <crimsun> schlomo: then, sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[01:27] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, speakers directly.  checking cables now... but I noticed "no default soundcard" before "no sound"
[01:27] <schlomo> crimsun : a-i ?
[01:27] <crimsun> schlomo: yes
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> And suggests # dldrstop should do the trick.  Anyone know what that means?
[01:27] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[01:29] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, done.  Still no device found
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> Or, can someone tell me how to add the above command as an acpi script to the suspend/hibernate scripts?
[01:29] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: um, you can't be manipulating the sound card controls if it's not found.
[01:29] <ilba7r> anyone know a good howto for upgrading the firmware
[01:29] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: what precisely is telling you a sound card can't be found?
[01:30] <borfast> OK, my dad installed Ubuntu on his laptop last night. everything went fine but when gdm starts, the screen stays at 640x480 and doesn't stretch to fill the whole screen.
[01:30] <borfast>  I searched /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors but I didn't find any. everything seems to be fine, except that at some point, there's a line that says "Not using mode '1024x768' (no mode of this name)". His laptop is a Gericom Hummer, with an Intel 915 graphics chip. does anyone know what this could be and how I can fix it?
[01:30] <crimsun> !tell borfast about fixres
[01:30] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, when I go into an admin tool (preferences|sound, volume control, whatever) I'm told there are no devices
[01:30] <pashaw> borfast,   is it full screen?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> anyone know why gstreamer gives an OIL error?
[01:31] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, going into volume control, I get a dialog "Error: No volume control elements and/or devices found."
[01:31] <borfast> thanks, crimsun! that one slipped through my fingers when I was searching Google :)
[01:31] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: lsmod and cat /proc/asound/cards output
[01:31] <mirak> bonne nuit les petits
[01:31] <borfast> pashaw: no, it is not, it is just a rectangle in the middle of the screen
[01:31] <kjdavies-md> if I go to System|Preferences|Sound, the default sound card dropdown is empty
[01:32] <mwe> !sound
[01:32] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, I definitely have the problem described on http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Conexant_HSF_modem_drivers with regard to suspend.  I need help adding those lines to the suspend script, as I've never done anything like that.
[01:33] <Yv12345vY> crimsun, it's doing something, i'll keep my fingers crossed
[01:33] <schlomo> crimsun : a-i ?
[01:33] <crimsun> schlomo: yes
[01:33] <schlomo> audio installer ?
[01:34] <chaoticgeek> hey all
[01:34] <crimsun> schlomo: no, it's a module-assistant flag. I mean what I typed.
[01:34] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, http://www.kjdavies.org/drop/ubuntu/lsmod-output
[01:34] <schlomo> ok
[01:34] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, http://www.kjdavies.org/drop/ubuntu/proc-asound-cards
[01:34] <schlomo> crimsun : sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source ?
[01:34] <schlomo> ok ?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I'll simplify: What file IS my suspend script?
[01:35] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: /etc/acpi/suspend.sh
[01:35] <deltron> is anyone having problems with irssi-text and display of color characters/non-alphanumeric characters?
[01:35] <chaoticgeek> I was wondering if someone would be able to help me. I'm having problems with azureus. I to have it so I can type 'azureus' in the command line and have it start up azureus
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, Thanks.
[01:35] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: does logging out of GNOME and back in resolve the System> Preferences> Sound issue(s)?
[01:35] <Amaranth> chaoticgeek: ok
[01:35] <cmatheson> chaoticgeek: you'll have to add the azureus directory to your path
[01:35] <Amaranth> oh, he is asking how, i thought he said he had that
[01:36] <mwe> or make a symlink
[01:36] <crimsun> schlomo: yes
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> I have azureus in /usr/local/share and I tried making a symbolic link to /usr/bin
[01:36] <ilba7r> having troubles with ipw2200 wirless any help is appreciated
[01:36] <cmatheson> mwe: i do't know if a symlink will work w/ azureus since it's a shell-script trying to start a java program
[01:36] <ElPenguin> it won't
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> ok, how do I do that?
[01:36] <ElPenguin> been there, failed taht
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, I don't have that.  There is a suspend.d and a sleep.sh .
[01:37] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: hmm, i never suspend i only hibernate, but i would check out the suspend.d stuff (or the sleep, i'm not sure... it wouldn't hurt checking it all out)
[01:37] <mwe> hm. make simple a wrapper script then, unless you want an ugly path
[01:37] <ilba7r> take a look at the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6095 this is the output of dmesg
[01:38] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, hmm, interesting
[01:38] <Smokie> Ok.. So I've got a quick question.. I'm currently a Windows user (blech) and I'm thinkin' about switchin over on my laptop. Question is... Am I gonna have to wipe my harddrive to make the switch? Or will all my files still be accessible?
[01:38] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, logging out did *not* make it work when I logged back in
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, What does .d mean?  And how could I tell what they are by the contents?  (What should I expect in a suspend script?)
[01:38] <ws008> hello
[01:38] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, *but*, when I got to the GDM screen, I *did* hear a drumbeat through the speaker
[01:38] <kinection> Smokie: you can partition your hardrives so that you can have both windows and ubuntu on the computer
[01:38] <kjdavies-md> user-level perms problem?
[01:38] <toya_> can anyone help me with installing java?
[01:38] <crimsun> kjdavies-md: probably. groups|grep audio
[01:39] <toya_> as in jdk not just jre
[01:39] <monthiel> tem brasileiro aqui
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, Woah, check that.  suspend.d is a directory.  My bad.
[01:39] <Hobbsee> !tell toya_ about javadeb
[01:39] <MrRio> Smokie: To keep your files use something like Partition Magic and resize ur current windows partition to about half its size, then leave the rest blank
[01:39] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: i've never looked at it... it's probably catting some value into some of the proc/ stuff
[01:39] <mwe> why wouldn't a symlink work for a shell script?
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, with 50-tosh-save-brightness.sh in it.
[01:39] <ilba7r> having lots of troubles with ipw2200 wirless setup and the current firmware. The wirless keep on disconnecting do not know why. Take a look at the dmesg output regarding the wirless connection at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6095
[01:39] <MrRio> Smokie, follow ubuntu's setup carefully to make sure u dont overwrite, then you can mount the ntfs partition once your up and running
[01:39] <toya_> Hobbsee, i installed it but dunno what to do next, in windows there's something called javac.exe which is the compiler
[01:39] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, da, no "audio
[01:40] <monthiel> it my firts time
[01:40] <monthiel> here
[01:40] <Smokie> But is there any way to leave the files accessible through linux?
[01:40] <kjdavies-md> crimsun added $user to 'audio' group, restarting GNOME
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Does != mean "not equal"?  (bash script?? I think)
[01:41] <cyphase> yes
[01:41] <monthiel> algum brasileiro???
[01:41] <toya_> Smokie, make another partition?
[01:41] <ubuntu> hi
[01:41] <HymnToLife> Smokie > yes you can resie your ntfs parttion without losing anything
[01:41] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Yes. Also see 'man test'
[01:41] <shineykitty> helphelp
[01:41] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, that's pretty music, logging into ubuntu
[01:41] <HymnToLife> resie*
[01:41] <beelzebub1987> nuu! Seveas repos are down =(
[01:41] <kjdavies-md> crimsun, thanks.
[01:41] <schlomo> crimsun :  Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could
[01:42] <beelzebub1987> need mirror
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Thanks.
[01:42] <Seveas> !tell beelzebub1987 about seveas
[01:42] <schlomo> crimsun :(
[01:42] <HymnToLife> loll
[01:42] <HymnToLife> !seveas
[01:42] <ubotu> hmm... seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:42] <beelzebub1987> Thanks Seveas!
[01:42] <ilba7r> having lots of troubles with ipw2200 wirless setup and the current firmware. The wirless keep on disconnecting do not know why. Take a look at the dmesg output regarding the wirless connection at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6095
[01:42] <crimsun> schlomo: I thought you said linux-headers-$(uname -r) is installed.
[01:42] <nemik> so how would i go about installing another hard-drive in ubuntu? do i need to format it and such manually?
[01:42] <toya_> need java compiling help.....
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, sleep.sh starts by checking whether ACPI_SLEEP is true, so I'm guessing it's what I want.
[01:42] <Smokie> cafuego- and just trash windows entirely?
[01:42] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: yeah, probably so
[01:42] <schlomo> crimsun : hum
[01:42] <schlomo> crimsun : linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[01:43] <cafuego> Smokie: What?
[01:43] <shineykitty> hi
[01:43] <schlomo> crimsun : not linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[01:43] <shineykitty> um i have a mac g3 lombard laptop
[01:43] <shineykitty> im wondering if someone could tell me why my hard drive wont show up when booting from a cd
[01:43] <crimsun> schlomo: you don't have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed then. Please be more observant next time I ask you to do something.
[01:43] <schlomo> crimsun : l think it should work with linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5  linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[01:43] <schlomo> sorry
[01:43] <toya_> shineykitty, is it a live cd?
[01:43] <HymnToLife> shineykitty > you have to mount it first
[01:44] <toya_> shineykitty, exactly
[01:44] <shineykitty> how do i mount the hard drive?
[01:44] <shineykitty> and how do i mount it for os9 to install os9?
[01:44] <Smokie> cafuego: I'd really like to completely rid my home life of windows.. Would I need to wipe for this? Or will I, after partitioning, be able to access my files through linux?
[01:44] <toya_> shineykitty, system -> admin -> disks
[01:45] <monthiel> Alexandre
[01:45] <mwe> Smokie: you can read the files, not write on a default install if it's ntfs
[01:45] <schlomo> crimsun : same error :(
[01:45] <andy17> ah....newbie question here, i believe......i've installed ubuntu on my hard disk alongside windows, but i didn't install a boot loader during setup.....how should i go about booting ubuntu?
[01:45] <zoka> hi people I have question. I want to format one windows fat32 partition and mount it to linux... also should move some files to new partition, it is on physical different disk
[01:45] <crimsun> schlomo: uname -r
[01:45] <shineykitty> now how would i mount it if i was installing os9?
[01:45] <feross> dudes... any site that has a good howto on WPA wireless security with Ubuntu? I have a 2200 Intel chipset card...
[01:45] <toya_> Smokie, yeah you can, just make a partition for linux, using the partition tool from linux, but not write
[01:46] <schlomo> crimsun : uname -r 2.6.12-10-386
[01:46] <mwe> feross: wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <crimsun> schlomo: remove any /usr/src/linux symlink
[01:46] <sklav> officially finished migrating my systems
[01:46] <toya_> how do i compile after i installed java
[01:46] <pashaw> !spanish
[01:46] <ubotu> spanish is, like, Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[01:46] <schlomo> crimsun : header link to linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[01:46] <schlomo> ok
[01:46] <Smokie> Awesome. Thank you so much for the information!
[01:47] <crimsun> schlomo: there should never be a /usr/src/linux symlink
[01:47] <schlomo> crimsun : really !
[01:47] <crimsun> schlomo: really. It's liable to break stuff, just as you're experiencing right this moment.
[01:47] <schlomo> crimsun : bad habit ?
[01:47] <mwe> toya_: javac foobar.java
[01:47] <schlomo> crimsun : ok :)
[01:47] <shineykitty> okay im there
[01:48] <shineykitty> how do i mount?
[01:48] <crimsun> schlomo: it's obsolete. Don't do it. Besides, that's what /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build is for.
[01:48] <schlomo> crimsun : same error
[01:48] <feross> mwe: did I forget to say 'good' WPA site? ;P  .. anyway, I guess I'll stick to WEP until WPA gets better support in Ubuntu
[01:48] <toya_> mwe, the problem is javac not found
[01:48] <schlomo> crimsun : ok
[01:48] <crimsun> schlomo: sigh, do you have gcc-3.4 installed?
[01:48] <toya_> mwe, i searched on the places listed in whereis java
[01:48] <schlomo> crimsun : yep
[01:48] <mwe> toya_: how did you install java and are you sure you didn't just install jre and not jdk?
[01:49] <schlomo> crimsun :  /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[01:49] <crimsun> ARGH.
[01:49] <nitinshantharam> hey guys, i jsut attached a new sata disk and i think linux mounted it to /dev/sda , how do i check ?
[01:49] <mwe> feross: yeah maybe. It's possible but cumbersome. I just use WEP myself
[01:49] <crimsun> schlomo: please don't manually manipulate the symlinks. You're breaking stuff left and right.
[01:49] <Fordprefect> morning all
[01:50] <cafuego> feross: wpa works fine here
[01:50] <toya_> mwe, nah its jdk1.5.6 i downloaded from the site and i just did this ./thefilename
[01:50] <schlomo> crimsun : ok I remove the symlink
[01:50] <pashaw> nitinshantharam,   type mount    in terminal
[01:50] <crimsun> schlomo: /usr/bin/gcc should be a symlink to gcc-4.0
[01:50] <Fordprefect> anyone able to answer a question about totem ??
[01:50] <schlomo> crimsun : what ?
[01:50] <mwe> toya_: and where did it install it? is javac in your $PATH?
[01:50] <schlomo> crimsun : ok
[01:50] <shineykitty> mew?
[01:50] <rinzai-shu> !anybody
[01:51] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:51] <crimsun> schlomo: that's correct; it's done by installing gcc-4.0, which is a dependency of build-essential.
[01:51] <toya_> mwe, maybe thats the problem, during the installation i didn't set anything, i mean default installation (not that it has any option)
[01:51] <Fordprefect> thanks for pointing that out, I was hoping for help not sarcasm
[01:51] <mwe> toya_: find out where javac is located and update your $PATH variable
[01:51] <schlomo> crimsun : same using symlink to gcc-4.0
[01:52] <schlomo> crimsun :  I gonna paste the error
[01:52] <soundray> Fordprefect, just ask your question
[01:52] <crimsun> don't paste it here.
[01:52] <toya_> mwe, what is option for find just to look at filename?
[01:52] <mwe> toya_: sudo find / type -f -name javac
[01:52] <pashaw> Fordprefect,   need thicker skin to use Linux
[01:52] <schlomo> crimsun : yep I know  ;-)
[01:52] <toya_> mwe, thank you
[01:52] <HymnToLife> lmao pashaw
[01:52] <mwe> toya_: oops
[01:52] <mwe> toya_: typo
[01:52] <navarone> Fordprefect you are getting vexed at a bot btw...<s>
[01:53] <mwe> toya_: sudo find / -type -f -name javac
[01:53] <rinzai-shu> pashaw: GNU/Linux...please!
[01:53] <Fordprefect> when surfing to a web site like news,bbc.co.uk and want to look at a video Totem is unable to stream
[01:53] <pashaw> rinzai-shu,  :P
[01:53] <Fordprefect> I am a solaris AIX freak
[01:53] <navarone> Fordprefectwhat file format?
[01:53] <Fordprefect> wmv
[01:54] <Fordprefect> or mov's
[01:54] <navarone> !codecs
[01:54] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:54] <toya_> mwe, it gives me an 'invalid argument'
[01:54] <navarone> !easysource
[01:54] <ubotu> it has been said that easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:54] <shineykitty> how do i mount my hard drive for os9 instalation
[01:54] <mwe> toya_: yeah typo, sorry
[01:54] <andrea_> ciao!
[01:54] <mwe> toya_: sudo find / -type f -name javac
[01:55] <soundray> shineykitty, you want to install OS 9?
[01:55] <schlomo> crimsun  :     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6096
[01:55] <andrea_> there is an italian chat for ubuntu?
[01:55] <djk_> !it
[01:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:55] <crimsun> #ubuntu-it ?
[01:55] <Fordprefect> thanks
[01:55] <andrea_> join #ubuntu-it
[01:55] <navarone> Fordprefect you need to uopdate your sources so that you can dl the win32 codecs
[01:55] <schlomo> adrea_ : http://www.ubuntu-it.org/
[01:56] <shineykitty> yes soundray
[01:56] <Fordprefect> I thought my sources were pretty good
[01:56] <Eleaf> do you guys reccomend knoppix or another livecd over ubuntu to repair a system?
[01:56] <toya_> mwe, oh found it, funny i think by default it installs it in its current directory
[01:56] <crimsun> schlomo: dpkg -l build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) gcc-3.4 fakeroot alsa-source module-assistant|grep ^ii
[01:56] <soundray> shineykitty, perhaps you need a different channel then?
[01:56] <shineykitty> okay
[01:56] <shineykitty> where do i go then
[01:56] <shineykitty> i have ubuntu installed
[01:56] <toya_> mwe, thanks for your help, one quick question, i don't like where its installed right now, so is it safe if i just move the whole folder?
[01:56] <pashaw> Eleaf,   yes  i keep both
[01:56] <Fordprefect> cool
[01:56] <shineykitty> but its got username and password of someone else
[01:56] <Fordprefect> got em
[01:56] <shineykitty> so i cant use it
[01:57] <Nei> nalioth, a self compiled w3m displays images just fine :(
[01:57] <Eleaf> pashaw, which do you think I should use first?
[01:57] <pashaw> Eleaf,   whats broken?
[01:57] <Eleaf> pashaw, my iBook..
[01:57] <Hydroksyde> hello
[01:57] <schlomo> crimsun : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6097
[01:57] <Ralken> anyone know of a nice program to use with my wifes new Ipod
[01:57] <Hydroksyde> how do I install the basic development tools in ubuntu?
[01:57] <ericfromlq> ralken: itunes
[01:57] <pashaw> Eleaf,   zero experience with apple products   wich i did
[01:57] <schlomo> Ralken : rhytmbox or banshee ?
[01:57] <soundray> shineykitty, just boot the OS 9 install CD and reformat ("initialize") the disk.
[01:57] <Eleaf> pashaw, I did a dist-upgrade from breezy to breezy and it got rid of a kernel module or something, then had some hard drive errors on some modules
[01:57] <crimsun> schlomo: it should be pretty obvious what the error is.
[01:58] <mwe> toya_: I think you can just move it to /opt for example. make sure it's owned by root though. sudo chown -R root:root <javadir>
[01:58] <Fordprefect> Navarone are you a bot
[01:58] <schlomo> crimsun : lol
[01:58] <soundray> Hydroksyde, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:58] <Eleaf> pashaw, and it won't boot at all past calculating module dependencies
[01:58] <Ralken> there is a linux version of Itunes?
[01:58] <schlomo> crimsun : let me recheck :)
[01:58] <Eleaf> pashaw, should I use knoppix ?
[01:58] <rinzai-shu> Ralken: no.
[01:58] <ericfromlq> well. you said nice. i dont think banshee is that nice
[01:58] <toya_> mwe, ok thx
[01:58] <Hydroksyde> soundray, thanks
[01:58] <ericfromlq> but youronly choice
[01:58] <schlomo> crimsun : linux headers is missing ? wrong version ?
[01:59] <Fordprefect> the other thing I am having problem with is Kismet and my Orinoco pcmcia card
[01:59] <crimsun> schlomo: you have NOT installed it like I asked TWICE in the past half hour.
[01:59] <schlomo> crimsun : hum
[01:59] <Fordprefect> Kismet doesn't like it but I can use the Orinoco card to work with
[01:59] <schlomo> crimsun : I have type exactly what u say
[01:59] <crimsun> schlomo: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:59] <schlomo> crimsun : hum
[01:59] <pashaw> Eleaf,  sure
[02:00] <toya_> anyone: do i gedit .bash_profile or .bashrc if i want to store aliases?
[02:00] <pashaw> Eleaf,   but i think Ubuntu liveCD should be your first choice
[02:00] <schlomo> crimsun : sorry skip this part I was thinking I have this header
[02:00] <thoreauputic> toya_: I use .bashrc
[02:00] <schlomo> crimsun : sorry  again
[02:00] <Eleaf> pashaw, alright, but that corrupted on me randomly a lot...
[02:01] <toya_> thoreauputic, the only difference is that .bashrc if exists is executed by .bash_profile right?
[02:01] <Fordprefect> thanks Totem works now
[02:01] <schlomo> Ralken : did u try rhythmbox or banshee ?
[02:01] <Eleaf> pashaw, I wanna try something new anyways... = p  I'll be able to make changes to my hard drive right?  Will I be able to use apt on the hard drive to make changes?
[02:01] <pashaw> Eleaf, ohhh i remember you    is this a new problem or same one?
[02:01] <Eleaf> pashaw, yea it's me,  It's that same problem
[02:01] <thoreauputic> toya_: so it says in the file, yes :)
[02:01] <schlomo> Ralken : iirc they have ipod support ?
[02:01] <bDerrly> toya_, .bash_profile is read only by terminals that "login" using wtmp or utmp, thus an xterm is more than likely not going to read it.  use .bashrc if you absolutely have to have it read for a console or xterm
[02:01] <pashaw> Eleaf,  i thought we left you with a plan of attack last night
[02:02] <Eleaf> I know
[02:02] <toya_> bDerrly, ok thx
[02:02] <Eleaf> I didn't get a chance to, I'm gunna work on it now though pashaw
[02:02] <mwe> toya_: .bash_profile is only sourced by login shells, which x-terminal sessions may or may not be depending on the shorcut and other factors
[02:02] <pashaw> Eleaf, im not at home yet  so i cant check my log
[02:02] <thoreauputic> toya_: I think .bashrc is the file you want
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> Hello again Eleaf
[02:02] <schlomo> crimsun : buildingn in progress :)
[02:02] <Evil_Whisper> Any Luck Eleaf?
[02:03] <Fordprefect> quir
[02:03] <sorush20> any one here using ubuntu?
[02:03] <andy17> hello..newbie question here, i believe......i've installed ubuntu on my hard disk alongside windows, but i didn't install a boot loader during setup.....how should i go about booting ubuntu?
[02:03] <crimsun> sorush20: no, none of us.
[02:03] <toya_> kk thx for the replies
[02:03] <toya_> man nautilus
[02:03] <schlomo> crimsun : done
[02:03] <toya_> opps
[02:03] <bshumate> sorush20: not a chance!
[02:04] <thoreauputic> sorush20: no, we all use slackware ;)
[02:04] <sorush20> sorry
[02:04] <soundray> andy17, if Ubuntu has finished installing, you should have a bootloader...
[02:04] <schlomo> crimsun : alsaconf then ?
[02:04] <Eleaf> pashaw, ahh, does knoppix have a ppc version??
[02:04] <crimsun> schlomo: no, we don't have an alsaconf.
[02:04] <sorush20> I meant to ask my any one here using gtk-gnutella?
[02:04] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Slackware weenie, switch to gentoo!
[02:04] <Eleaf> hi Evil_Whisper no not yet, I'm gunna try and work on it more now though
[02:04] <soundray> andy17, does it boot straight into Windows, still?
[02:04] <andy17> yes
[02:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego: heheh
[02:05] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, do you know if Knoppix has a ppc cd?
[02:05] <schlomo> crimsun : nothing more ? reboot ?
[02:05] <crimsun> schlomo: lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel
[02:05] <ericfromlq> andy: google GRUB boot loader
[02:05] <soundray> andy17, do you have the Live CD?
[02:05] <andy17> soundray : yeah
[02:05] <grogoreo> hi
[02:05] <schlomo> crimsun : arf not loaded, modprobe ?
[02:05] <crimsun> schlomo: yes
[02:05] <bshumate> Eleaf:  knoppix is indeed available for PPC
[02:05] <GTroy> anyone know how to install a video card?
[02:06] <schlomo> crimsun : strange
[02:06] <sorush20> I keep getting the message that my version is too old? 0.95.4 is this a bug or something?
[02:06] <soundray> andy17, if you boot off that, you can install grub on the hard disk.
[02:06] <mwe> GTroy: put it in your computer and install the driver
[02:06] <mrkoje> GTroy,  you have to take the sides off the computer first :)
[02:06] <GTroy> ehehe
[02:06] <schlomo> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[02:06] <soundray> andy17, not sure what the exact procedure is...
[02:06] <bshumate> GTroy: it usually involves opening up the case and seating a PCI, or AGP slotted card into the appropriate slot...
[02:06] <crimsun> schlomo: that's fine.
[02:06] <pashaw> Eleaf,   i thought there was one
[02:06] <schlomo> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[02:06] <bDerrly> schlomo, are you having problems with alsa not loading modules on boot up?
[02:06] <schlomo> why none to reload ?
[02:06] <GTroy> ok cool: thanks guys
[02:06] <soundray> How do you install grub on the HD after booting the Live CD?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> why is it gnome doesnt have toys like kde does? gnome has none that i found :(
[02:06] <Eleaf> pashaw, I'm not seeing one, but the ubuntu live cd and its brownness distracts me = p
[02:06] <crimsun> schlomo: because there were none loaded for your hardware.
[02:07] <mrkoje> GTroy,  you deserved those responses!
[02:07] <grogoreo> for some reason, every time I startup Ubuntu it says I it failed checking my hard drive using e2fsck. But when I login as root and perform the check it says it is clean. Also, I mount my /home directory from a different partition, /dev/hda3 but it mounts it as /dev/hda2 which I don't understand.
[02:07] <bDerrly> for some reason it was decided for me that i don't want to have my sound modules loaded on bootup...  :-\
[02:07] <andy17> soundray : i'd be happy with just a boot floppy
[02:07] <bshumate> GTroy: watch out for static, and don't try to do it with the machine still powered up and running! ;-)
[02:07] <schlomo> bDerrly : I have setup /etc/hotplug/blacklist to avoid snd-hda-intel make a kernel oops :)
[02:07] <GTroy> ok cool guys
[02:07] <xenex> ispiked: you there?
[02:07] <schlomo> bDerrrly : and then intall my own kernel module :)
[02:07] <soundray> Okay, listen to ericfromlq then...
[02:07] <ispiked> xenex: yeah.
[02:07] <GTroy> I'm just worried about messing with xfree
[02:08] <xenex> ispiked: do you think i can get my wireless card to work with my live cd?
[02:08] <soundray> andy17, google for grub boot loader
[02:08] <xenex> ispiked: so i can test it out?
[02:08] <ispiked> xenex: hrm... probably.
[02:08] <schlomo> crimsun : modprobe ok
[02:08] <xenex> ispiked: or is there any restarting the computer required?
[02:08] <soundray> andy17, you will find a floppy image somewhere.
[02:08] <schlomo> crimsun : log of dmesg
[02:08] <ispiked> xenex: you shouldn't have to restart.
[02:08] <xenex> ispiked: ok im going to go test it
[02:08] <ericfromlq> andy17: if you can get your hands on ultimate boot disc. then that will work really easily
[02:08] <crimsun> schlomo: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:08] <xenex> thank you everyone for helping me out
[02:08] <xenex> bbl
[02:09] <eedge> how do I get dvd playback in ubuntu?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[02:09] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:09] <schlomo> crimsun : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6098
[02:09] <schlomo> crimsun : dmesg
[02:10] <soundray> ericfromlq, there is also a boot disk image on your install cd: /install/sbm.bin
[02:10] <thoreauputic> eedge: also read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:10] <schlomo> crimsun :  cat /proc/asound/cards is ok
[02:10] <bshumate> Uranus has new moons and rings.  Everything in the world wrong with that headline...
[02:10] <eedge> thanks.
[02:10] <crimsun> schlomo: so now test with aplay
[02:11] <ericfromlq> soundray: thats cool, i didnt know that. do you know the procedure of setting it up for andys situation?
[02:11] <nickrud> I can just imagine the glee in some high school editorial offices
[02:11] <ajulius> i fergot my chat password
[02:11] <soundray> ericfromlq, I have to admit I've never tried it myself...
[02:11] <norman_conquest> #list
[02:11] <schlomo> crimsun : my friend tests it's ok ;-)
[02:11] <skon> adjulius: huh/
[02:12] <chaoticgeek> ok, I still do not understand what this guy said above
[02:12] <ericfromlq> soundray: oh, damn. oh well. im sure andy will figure it out sooner or later
[02:12] <ajulius> oh crap
[02:12] <chaoticgeek> I was wondering if someone would be able to help me. I'm having problems with azureus. I to have it so I can type 'azureus' in the command line and have it start up azureus
[02:12] <crimsun> schlomo: ok. I'm out for a bit.
[02:12] <soundray> ericfromlq, there's only one working floppy drive left in the house, and it's an external thinkpad one hidden in a drawer :)
[02:12] <schlomo> crimsun : thank you very much ! sorry for the mistake ;-)
[02:12] <ajulius> i /msg my password to identify
[02:12] <chaoticgeek> I have azureus in /usr/local/share and I tried making a symbolic link to /usr/bin
[02:12] <ajulius> wrong name
[02:12] <ajulius> bah
[02:12] <schlomo> crimsun : juste
[02:12] <ajulius> i gotta change my pw now
[02:12] <Yv12345vY> are there any advantages to going to a 686 kernel over a 386??
[02:12] <schlomo> crimsun : one thing
[02:12] <gnomefreak> whats the difference between opera and opera-static?
[02:12] <chaoticgeek> but it still does not work, anyone know where I can go get help? or can help me?
[02:12] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: and then....?
[02:12] <schlomo> crimsun : your patch will be accepted for Dapper ?
[02:12] <norman_conquest> sorry, did not relize I was in the room already...lol
[02:12] <Seveas> ajulius, /msg nickserv set password new_password_here
[02:12] <crimsun> schlomo: from #15031?
[02:12] <andy17> ok, i'll present a new scenario pretty different, but will solve much of this.....installed is ubuntu 4.10.....i should probably download 5.10 anyway......can i just pop in the install CD and upgrade, dealing with the boot loader there?
[02:13] <skon> Yv12345: kernels are architecture-appropriate
[02:13] <soundray> Yv12345vY, it's faster
[02:13] <schlomo> crimsun  : yep
[02:13] <Yv12345vY> hmm upgrade time
[02:13] <chaoticgeek> I type azureus in and it says command not found
[02:13] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: i believe /usr/local/share is a very very untraditional location for binaries
[02:13] <crimsun> schlomo: #15031 is already fixed in Dapper. The alsa-source you downloaded is from Dapper.
[02:13] <soundray> Yv12345vY, if you have a 686 compatible CPU that is...
[02:13] <skon> andy17: yes, or you could just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, assuming you have a good connection
[02:13] <schlomo> crimsun  : great
[02:13] <nickrud> gnomefreak, opera static has the qt libs built in, opera uses the ones from a distribution
[02:13] <schlomo> crimsun  : great job !
[02:13] <schlomo> crimsun  : but wiki is not update :'
[02:13] <Yv12345vY> soundray, p2 mobile?
[02:14] <crimsun> schlomo: wiki?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> nickrud,  so go with static?
[02:14] <schlomo> crimsun  : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:14] <soundray> Yv12345vY, yes, use 686 for that.
[02:14] <chaoticgeek> bshumate, any suggestions then?
[02:14] <andy17> does the ubuntu installer provide for installing a bootloader on a floppy?
[02:14] <ajulius> Password identification is required for [SET] 
[02:14] <ajulius> dang
[02:14] <ajulius> oh well
[02:14] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf what version of the ubuntu live CD do you have?
[02:14] <nickrud> gnomefreak, probably the easiest. I've heard rumors about problems with opera, but I haven't tried it myself
[02:14] <crimsun> schlomo: I didn't have anything to do with that wiki entry
[02:14] <skon> andy17: why would you want that, just curious?
[02:14] <Yv12345vY> soundray, will do, thanks
[02:14] <Seveas> ajulius, identify first, then set a new password :)
[02:14] <ajulius> seveas i fergot my OLD password
[02:14] <crimsun> schlomo: thanks for pointing it out, though; I'll correct it.
[02:15] <chaoticgeek> ...
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[02:15] <schlomo> crimsun  : cool ;-) np
[02:15] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: however, assuming this azureus  is the binary, and is located in /usr/local/share, then the link made by doing : ln -s /usr/local/share/azureus /usr/bin/azureus should make it work....provided some really odd condition such as "/usr/bin" missing from your path is not in effect
[02:15] <schlomo> crimsun  : your ubuntu package is great too
[02:15] <schlomo> crimsun  : because using source package from alsa not work here
[02:15] <crimsun> schlomo: you just used Dapper's source package.
[02:15] <chaoticgeek> ok I did make a link to /usr/bin/azureus and I still can not use it
[02:16] <andy17> skon, i have little experience with most of the concepts of bootloaders, linux in general........i had nasty experiences trying to install mandrake and spent a looong time trying to be able to boot into XP again....i just want to avoid fiddling with the MBR
[02:16] <schlomo> crimsun : ? some dapper package has port back to breezy ?
[02:16] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: and if you type at the prompt:  /usr/local/share/azureus ?
[02:16] <ajulius> anyways
[02:16] <crimsun> schlomo: not this one.
[02:16] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: it does work?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> andy17 > with ubuntu it works just fine
[02:16] <soundray> andy17, that must have been a while ago, since mandrake is now called mandriva...
[02:16] <skon> andy17:well, if that suits you, I guess it's cool but I can't offer much help..I've dual booted XP and Linux on several computers without any problems at all
[02:16] <crimsun> need to go get dinner.
[02:17] <schlomo> crimsun : ah ok didn't check precisely the url from wget I have used dapper package ?
[02:17] <crimsun> schlomo: yes, that's from Dapper.
[02:17] <bshumate> crimsun: word up! get me some too! ;-)
[02:17] <schlomo> crimsun: ok thank again for your help !
[02:17] <crimsun> bshumate: k, I'll be sure to eat it, too.
[02:17] <skon> andy17: best of all, it does it all for you, no figuration - just big grub or lilo (grub is better I think)
[02:17] <crimsun> schlomo: np
[02:17] <bshumate> ;-) ;-)
[02:17] <eedge> trying to install DVD playback - Connecting to www.dtek.chalmers.se|129.16.30.198|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[02:17] <eedge> problem.
[02:17] <chaoticgeek> if I type /usr/local/share/azureus/azureus (link to azureus command) it will run
[02:18] <agtnz> How do I log a script's output? As in, redirect to a file what is being reported on screen?
[02:18] <skon> agtnz: check out the pipe command |
[02:18] <andy17> it was the weird bug i saw a lot of people go off about on forums and such....the solution was setting something in the BIOS about LBA........all the fdisk /mbr stuff wouldn't work, it was a large mess..
[02:18] <soundray> agtnz: 'script >log'
[02:18] <jean> ive started a download in firefox and i want it to resume it..what do i do?
[02:18] <skon> or that.. >
[02:18] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: ok...then do : sudo rm -rf /usr/bin/azareus
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> need some help with samba
[02:18] <soundray> agtnz, if you want both, 'script | tee log'
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> [root@snoopy sysuser] # testparm
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> Unknown parameter encountered: "enable privileges"
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> Ignoring unknown parameter "enable privileges"
[02:18] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: then : ln -s  /usr/local/share/azureus/azureus /usr/bin/azureus
[02:19] <skon> jean: is it stopped?
[02:19] <jean> skon: ya
[02:19] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: cause you said earlier you made a link to */usr/local/share/azureus* and that is not the correct path
[02:19] <andy17> ideally, i'd like to have ubuntu installed, but be able to boot with the windows boot loader
[02:19] <HymnToLife> jean > you cannot resume downloads in firefox
[02:19] <agtnz> soundray, skon, thx :)
[02:19] <matthew_w> Hey all, I just got a new Acer AL1916 19" flatscreen monitor, and I'm wondering how I can autoconfigure xorg to run well with it.  (on 1280x1024)
[02:19] <skon> jean: dunno exactly in your case, try opening up the downloads manager
[02:20] <soundray> andy17, this is possible too, but takes much more manual intervention.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> andy17 > the windows boot loader cannot boot linux
[02:20] <jean> HymnToLife: why not?
[02:20] <soundray> HymnToLife, andy17, it can chainload a boot loader though...
[02:20] <skon> Because windows is gay
[02:20] <Evil_Whisper> Eleaf: Have you tried rock linux PPC liveCD?
[02:20] <HymnToLife> yeah it involves booting in rescue mode from a win CD and lots of stuff
[02:20] <matthew_w> I don't want to mess around with xorg.conf, because every time I force it to run at 1280x1024 the screen seems to wobble, a bit.
[02:20] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, no I haven't
[02:21] <Evil_Whisper> http://www.rocklinux.org/livecd.html
[02:21] <andy17> so chainloading a bootloader is tough work?
[02:21] <HymnToLife> really not worth it, GRUB works perfectly
[02:21] <soundray> HymnToLife, no it doesn't.
[02:21] <chaoticgeek> ok well that works now
[02:21] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, I thought I still had the linux ppc livecd downloaded still, but I guess not, So I'm just redownloading that..
[02:21] <chaoticgeek> except now I get an error
[02:21] <Eleaf> Evil_Whisper, 7% -dance-
[02:21] <jean> is there an extension for firefox that will resume this file?
[02:21] <pashaw> Eleaf, all i found was a 2year old ppc version of knoppix     the Gentoo PPC LiveCD  is also an option
[02:21] <soundray> HymnToLife, ...doesn't involve booting a rescue CD. Sorry, GRUB does work well here, too.
[02:21] <eedge> I have a problem, I'm behind a proxy and allthough I can get say X-chat and Firefox to work though it.
[02:21] <Eleaf> pashaw, alright, I'll just go with ubuntu live
[02:22] <HymnToLife> soundray > ?
[02:22] <eedge> How do I ping through it?
[02:22] <Eleaf> thanks for lookign!
[02:22] <matthew_w> Anyone?
[02:22] <Eleaf> looking
[02:22] <eedge> I only seem to be able to ping internally...
[02:22] <pashaw> Eleaf,   im still at work  sorry for the delay with replies
[02:22] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: what is your error?  and is there not a better bittorrent client for gnu/linux than azureus?
[02:22] <HymnToLife> soundray > booting linux with the windows boot loader does
[02:22] <skon> jean: there are tons of download managers....Tools|Extensions|Get more extensions
[02:22] <bDerrly> anyone know how to get alsa to start up at boot time?  it has just stopped recently with an upgrade (i'm using dapper...)
[02:22] <Eleaf> pashaw, It's alright! = )
[02:23] <skon> bDerrly: System|Preferences|Sessions|Startup programs
[02:23] <Eleaf> pashaw, what do you do for work?
[02:23] <skon> might work
[02:23] <pashaw> Eleaf, network admin
[02:23] <soundray> HymnToLife, it's been a while ago since I did this, but you can edit the Win bootloader parameters, so it loads GRUB or LILO from a partition's boot sector. No rescue disks involved.
[02:23] <bDerrly> skon, that is on a per user session though, i'm talking loaded the sound drivers on bootup like alsa has done for ages...
[02:23] <Eleaf> pashaw, That's cool, is it fun?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> soundray > and how do you edit it ?
[02:24] <skon> bDerrly: oh...um...not entirely sure on that one
[02:24] <pashaw> Eleaf,   as long as the servers dont catch on fire i mess with "tech toys" all day
[02:24] <eedge> Infact what are .sh files?... Really all I need is for sh files to no to connect through a proxy?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> you boot from the win cd in rescue mode
[02:24] <jean> i want to resume this download in firefox
[02:24] <jean> how do i do it
[02:24] <soundray> HymnToLife, why not boot the Windows partition that is already installed?
[02:24] <chaoticgeek> bshumate, this is my error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6099
[02:24] <skon> eedge: probably script files
[02:24] <Eleaf> pashaw, = p
[02:24] <Eleaf> FIRE!!!
[02:24] <Eleaf> FIRE...
[02:25] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:25] <skon> jean: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=201&application=firefox
[02:25] <eedge> how would I convince an SH file to know to connect through my proxy?
[02:25] <HymnToLife> because you cannot edit the bootloader optionf from it ?
[02:25] <soundray> HymnToLife, is that new in XP?
[02:26] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: classpath issues...typical java crap.  paste to pastebin the output from :  echo $CLASSPATH
[02:26] <HymnToLife> I think so
[02:27] <chaoticgeek> bshumate, its a blank line
[02:27] <skon> yeah same here
[02:28] <HymnToLife> anyway, I don't see the point in doing this
[02:28] <soundray> HymnToLife, okay, whatever... andy17, to summarize the advice: give GRUB a chance :)
[02:28] <slew> hi, whats a good program for dvd authoring in linux?
[02:28] <andy17> hey, this article.... http://ezinearticles.com/?Dual-Boot-Windows-and-Linux:-Single-and-Multiple-Hard-Drives&id=99860 seems to portray using the windows boot loader to boot linux being very easy
[02:28] <bshumate> chaoticgeek: ok...una momento pleeze
[02:28] <Eleaf> authoring
[02:28] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:28] <dailyrorschach> in gnome how can I turn off the outline that appears when minimizing and maximizing
[02:29] <jean> skon: will it work on a file i have already?
[02:29] <nickrud> eedge, you could try setting the http_proxy environment variable, that is:  export http_proxy=<your proxy> that works sometimes
[02:29] <jean> skon: a .part file?
[02:29] <andy17> but it involves just putting the linux boot loader on a partition, not the mbr
[02:29] <soundray> andy17, that's what I said.
[02:29] <soundray> andy17, the article doesn't explicitly refer to XP, though.
[02:30] <skon> jean: I have no idea, how did you get that file in the first place?
[02:30] <soundray> andy17, HymnToLife thinks that XP prevents editing boot.ini unless you boot a rescue disk.
[02:30] <jean> skon: clicked on a link http://www.darkarts.co.za/projects/vultures/downloads/vultures-1.11.1/vultures-1.11.1-eye.tar.gz
[02:31] <HymnToLife> afaik, XP doesn't use boot.ini
[02:31] <skon> and so why did it stop?
[02:31] <jean> skon: dialup connection stoppped
[02:32] <Iam8up> HymnToLife - fucking duh? how do you think it boots?
[02:32] <bob832> what is the "control interface" when working with the WPA supplicant?
[02:32] <soundray> HymnToLife, it is present, though...
[02:32] <HymnToLife> jean > it's foolish to download big files like this on dialup
[02:32] <andy17> soundray, HymnToLife, XP provides editing of the boot.ini simply through "my computer/system properties/advanced/start up and recovery"
[02:32] <HymnToLife> you might want to use a download manager like gwget or aria
[02:32] <Iam8up> actually it's much easier to type msconfig (in the run prompt)
[02:32] <_tcc> For anyone who uses synaptic, I got some errors and now it keeps warning me after every install...how do I get rid of those?
[02:32] <HymnToLife> with the FlashGot extension for ff
[02:33] <jean> HymnToLife: whats foolish?
[02:33] <andy17> yeah, msnconfig allows editing of boot.ini as well
[02:33] <ispiked> what command can I use to search for packages?
[02:33] <Seveas> ispiked, apt-cache serch
[02:33] <jean> HymnToLife: how do we make it unfoolish so i can get it
[02:33] <HymnToLife> jean > downloading large files without a dl manager when you're on dialup
[02:33] <ispiked> Seveas: that searches for ones on the network?
[02:33] <nickrud> jean, I'm not sure just how firefox saves it's temporary files, but you could do    sudo updatedb  , then locate vulture.
[02:34] <nickrud> jean, if that finds the partial file, cd to that directory, and use wget -c <file> to finish
[02:34] <jean> HymnToLife: ya your right
[02:34] <HymnToLife> jean > use a download managaer (gwget or aria) and the FlashGot ext for ff
[02:34] <soundray> andy17, I think that settles it. You can setup your existing bootloader to chainload GRUB if you install it in your root or boot partition.
[02:34] <Seveas> ispiked, it does not need the net, but yes it does search through all available pckages
[02:34] <ispiked> Seveas: thanks.
[02:34] <irvin> ispiked, that searches the package list on the repos you have enabled
[02:34] <_tcc> For anyone who uses synaptic, I got some errors and now it keeps warning me after every install...how do I get rid of those?
[02:35] <skon> _tcc: please be more specific with the errors
[02:35] <HymnToLife> ok so I messed up here :p
[02:35] <irvin> ispiked, there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com where you can search packages online
[02:35] <HymnToLife> but I still think it's a waste of time
[02:35] <_tcc> skon: it cannot install the deps so it leaves it unconfigured.
[02:35] <_tcc> and i am warned EVEry time I use it.
[02:35] <jean> gdamnit no9w i have to startt pover
[02:35] <andy17> thank you all, and i'm sorry for the confusion
[02:35] <SFTR-TheJoe> hi
[02:35] <SFTR-TheJoe> anybody there to help?
[02:36] <sorush20> do I need to keep gtk1 or can I make all programs to use gtk2?
[02:36] <nickrud> I lived at the bottom of a very small pipe for a long time. I found some workarounds. flashgot was one :)
[02:36] <pashaw> !anybody
[02:36] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:36] <SFTR-TheJoe> yey people are actually alive here
[02:36] <skon> SFTR-TheJoe: we're always here :-D
[02:36] <soundray> andy17, hope you can get it going
[02:36] <nickrud> sorush20, no, you cannot force programs to use gtk2 instead of gtk1
[02:36] <SFTR-TheJoe> okies... i was gona ask... is there a tax on the free ShipIt CD's coming into England?
[02:36] <xenex> ispiked, you there?
[02:36] <skon> _tcc: did you try sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:36] <ispiked> xenex: yep.
[02:37] <_tcc> nope ;)
[02:37] <xenex> ispiked, ok im on live right now, and the floppy wont work
[02:37] <jean> HymnToLife: gwget with flashgot? what does flashgot do?
[02:37] <xenex> ispiked, it says it cant mount it
[02:37] <SFTR-TheJoe> is that nope to me?
[02:37] <_tcc> no
[02:37] <SFTR-TheJoe> fuck
[02:37] <ispiked> xenex: hrm... never mounted a floppy on linux.
[02:37] <Seveas> SFTR-TheJoe, no tax at all...
[02:37] <xenex> ispiked, so what am i supposed to do? :x
[02:37] <_tcc> I don't normally use apt-get
[02:38] <_tcc> I am from the evils of FC3.....*EEK*
[02:38] <jean> do i need downloadthemall or gwget and flashgot? whats flashgot for
[02:38] <bshumate> SFTR-TheJoe: keep it on a professional level please, and mind the obscenities
[02:38] <ispiked> xenex: how'd you try to mount it?
[02:38] <andy17> soundray, i have a crappy box i'll experiment with before i try my install on this compy.......yeah, it'll take a long time because i'm paranoid.....but i guess i'll learn something.....a large waste of time, but i'm paranoid..
[02:38] <SFTR-TheJoe> thanks people
[02:38] <SFTR-TheJoe> and sorry for swearing :P
[02:39] <skon> andy17: understandable
[02:39] <HymnToLife> jean > flashgot allows you to download your files in gwget by just clicking on it
[02:39] <SFTR-TheJoe> linux for life
[02:39] <jean> HymnToLife: k
[02:39] <skon> What an idiot lol
[02:39] <_tcc> bbl
[02:39] <xenex> ispiked, i tried opening the floppy drive and it says "Unable to mount the selected volume. More details: Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[02:39] <pashaw> xenex,   what command did you try to mount the floppy with?
[02:39] <HymnToLife> with the classic 'Save' and 'Open' options, you will also have a 'FlashGot' one which will downoad the file using your dl manager
[02:40] <ericfromlq> i just installed ubuntu. i dont remember my username or password. what should i do?
[02:40] <soundray> andy17, I found that taking the occasional risk paid off nicely in lessons learned :)
[02:40] <GTroy> ok, got the card installed, what location do I install the driver.tgz to?
[02:40] <Xmasmoo> ericformlq: reinstall
[02:40] <xenex> pashaw, i didnt do any command, i just click on the floppy drive icon
[02:40] <ericfromlq> xmasmoo. damn, i didnt want to. thanks though
[02:40] <soundray> andy17, except when I tried hotplugging an IDE disk...
[02:40] <jean> HymnToLife: is gwget just a graphicla wget?
[02:40] <ispiked> pashaw: could it be permissions?
[02:40] <GTroy> oh yeah x interface quit on me
[02:40] <skon> ericfromlq: lol, reformat now
[02:40] <ispiked> xenex: do you know how to open up a terminal?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> jean > yes
[02:41] <xenex> accessories -> terminal?
[02:41] <ispiked> xenex: yes.
[02:41] <xenex> ispiked, ok its open
[02:42] <ispiked> xenex: when you're there, `ls /media'.
[02:42] <Xmasmoo> ubuntu uses md5 hashes, right? it would take few weeks to retrieve password with very high computing capacity
[02:42] <skon> xenex: on a side note, you might want to make a shortcut to that terminal on the desktop or the panel or whatever because it will be your very very best friend under linux
[02:42] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to turn off the outline the appears around windows in gnome when maximizing or minimizing windows
[02:42] <xenex> ispiked, i typed that and nothing happened
[02:42] <Madpilot> Hi all
[02:42] <xenex> skon, it wont matter yet because im on a live cd
[02:43] <ispiked> xenex: what about `ls /mnt'.
[02:43] <bshumate> Heya Madpilot
[02:43] <GTroy> what's a good directory to install a .tgz video driver to?
[02:43] <xenex> ispiked, am i supposed to include the `'.?
[02:43] <pashaw> xenex,   type  mount /media/floppy0
[02:43] <ispiked> xenex: no, those are just quotes.
[02:43] <xenex> pashaw, i typed that and noithing happened
[02:43] <skon> xenex: its okay
[02:44] <xenex> ispiked, i typed that too, nothing
[02:44] <skon> xenex: it means your floppy hasn't been mounted into media yet
[02:44] <pashaw> xenex,    type   cat /etc/fstab   and look for your floppy line
[02:44] <xenex> pashaw, im typing all these commands and nothing is showing up in the terminal
[02:44] <pashaw> ???
[02:45] <pashaw> do you see a $
[02:45] <ispiked> xenex: type `uname -a'.
[02:45] <xenex> pashaw, i typed all those commands that you and ispiked told me and nothing happened
[02:45] <ispiked> xenex: that should show something.
[02:45] <xenex> ispiked, uname didnt do anything either
[02:45] <ispiked> xenex: that just means nothing was in those directories.
[02:45] <ispiked> xenex: :O
[02:45] <ispiked> xenex: do you see something like [ubuntu@ubuntu $]  ?
[02:45] <skon> xenex: most commands don't show up anything unless you ask them, or if the directories you look for are empty, it will show nothing too
[02:45] <soundray> xenex: do you see the commands that you typed?
[02:45] <xenex> ispiked, yeah thats on top
[02:46] <xenex> soundray, yes
[02:46] <pashaw> xenex close that and open   Applications > Assessories > Terminal
[02:46] <xenex> pashaw, done
[02:46] <ispiked> xenex: should be to the left of what you're typing.
[02:46] <pashaw> now type   who
[02:46] <pashaw> does it show you
[02:46] <xenex> there we go
[02:47] <pashaw> xenex,   great  now   type    mount /media/floppy0
[02:47] <bshumate> Xmasmoo: so long as you're of the legal age to consume alcohol, I believe it is...
[02:47] <xenex> pashaw, it shows tty1-6
[02:47] <ispiked> xenex: ok.
[02:47] <xenex> mount: can't find /media/floppy0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:47] <ispiked> xenex: try `cat /etc/fstab'.
[02:47] <HymnToLife> good night people
[02:47] <pashaw> night
[02:47] <xenex> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[02:47] <xenex> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[02:47] <soundray> Cheers HymnToLife
[02:48] <xenex> ispiked, i pasted what i got above
[02:48] <pashaw> xenex,    try mount  /dev/fd0
[02:48] <Eleaf> is it ok to use two psu's?  lol...
[02:48] <DewDude> wow
[02:49] <DewDude> mp3 is now a "free" format
[02:49] <ispiked> pashaw: he needs to specify where to mount it.
[02:49] <xenex> pashaw, mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:49] <soundray> Me off, too
[02:49] <Eleaf> DewDude, is it open source?
[02:49] <soundray> Have yourselves a happy Xmas.
[02:49] <pashaw> ispiked,   guess i need another DEW  getting tired
[02:49] <DewDude> no.....Flendo licensed it
[02:49] <DewDude> with redistribution rights
[02:49] <ispiked> pashaw: well, I guess it'll use fstab for that.
[02:49] <DewDude> gstreamer plugin
[02:50] <ispiked> xenex: can you paste the output of `cat /etc/fstab' here: http://rafb.net/paste?
[02:50] <DewDude> oh
[02:50] <DewDude> indeed
[02:50] <DewDude> the source for the plugin was released
[02:50] <dailyrorschach> anyone have a good recommendation for a media player/organizer I have 4,000 some odd songs
[02:50] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/nyxDEg68.html
[02:51] <DewDude> i take it you folks don't read OSNews do ya?
[02:51] <ispiked> xenex: does `ls /dev/f*' output anything?
[02:52] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/4N8e2727.html
[02:52] <jgrieves> anyway to minimize Evolution to the top?
[02:52] <jgrieves> !Evolution
[02:52] <ubotu> jgrieves: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:52] <ispiked> xenex: alright.
[02:53] <ispiked> xenex: you're going to need to use "sudo" to do this because you don't have permission as a normal user to do it.
[02:53] <ispiked> xenex: 'sudo mkdir /media/floppy'.
[02:53] <ispiked> xenex: then `sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy'.
[02:54] <xenex> ispiked, do you want me to paste it on that site?
[02:54] <xenex> ispiked, the output
[02:54] <ispiked> xenex: not needed probably.
[02:54] <ispiked> xenex: well, I guess.
[02:54] <jgrieves> anyway to minimize Evolution to the top next to Gaim
[02:54] <xenex> ispiked, well a bunch of text popped up
[02:55] <nickrud> !info evolution
[02:55] <ubotu> evolution: (The groupware suite), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 4428 kB, Installed size: 29956 kB
[02:55] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/cpI7kF13.html
[02:55] <dailyrorschach> can amarok be used in gnome?
[02:55] <Kyral> dailyrorschach: yes
[02:55] <ratero> Hello to all
[02:55] <skon> dailroschach: what does amarok do?
[02:55] <ratero> Ubuntu lives! :D
[02:55] <Kyral> skon: its a music player
[02:55] <ispiked> xenex: you need a space between "/dev/fd0" and "/media/floppy".
[02:55] <dailyrorschach> Kyral: just install the package through apt-get?
[02:55] <skon> Oh yeah, its a package
[02:55] <Kyral> dailyrorschach: yes
[02:56] <dailyrorschach> excellent
[02:56] <zoka> how to make more space I have only 4G disk... almost nothing installed 78% use
[02:56] <sorush20> anyone here watch porn?
[02:56] <Kyral> ....
[02:56] <geoffrian> Hello linux junkies
[02:56] <Evil_Whisper> hi geoffrian
[02:56] <jgrieves> nickrud anyway to minimize Evolution to the top next to Gaim?
[02:56] <zoka> sorush20: no we are geeks
[02:56] <ispiked> sorush20: not here...
[02:56] <ispiked> jgrieves: google?
[02:56] <nickrud> jgrieves, non that I know of
[02:56] <jgrieves> ispiked trying ot find
[02:56] <bshumate> sorush20: off-topic.  inappropriate for this channel.  halt!
[02:57] <jgrieves> ispiked haven't found it get, figured it b be a plugin
[02:57] <xenex> ispiked, that made my floppy drive make noises
[02:57] <Hydroksyde> bshumate, ubuntu *is* the porn distro
[02:57] <Kyral> .....
[02:57] <ispiked> xenex: does `ls /media/floppy' show anything?
[02:57] <Kyral> Are you referring to the old UbuntuCalandar package?
[02:57] <crimsun> this is completely offtopic.
[02:58] <nickrud> jgrieves, and if there was, I'm almost positive I would have found it by now :)
[02:58] <xenex> ispiked, YES!
[02:58] <ispiked> xenex: cool. :)
[02:58] <bshumate> Hydroksyde: source, please.  examples. back up your claims.
[02:58] <jgrieves> nickrud doh! :)
[02:58] <xenex> ispiked, now what? :o
[02:58] <skon> Hydroksyde: any particular reason?
[02:58] <Kyral> There is a reason
[02:58] <xenex> ispiked, this is the output ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb  WG511v2.INF  WG511v2.sys
[02:58] <jgrieves> nickrud thanks for letting me know, i will end my hunt for a while and throw her into workstation 4
[02:58] <ispiked> xenex: you can put that in /etc/fstab to make it do it on boot if you want, or you could try and install ndiswrapper. :P
[02:58] <bshumate> Hydroksyde: blowing hot air doesn't make it so my friend...
[02:58] <Kyral> There used to be a package in Warty called Ubuntu-Callendar or something
[02:58] <geoffrian> What is the topic of conversation??
[02:58] <xenex> ispiked, i think i already download ndiswrapper in the synaptic thing
[02:59] <Kyral> it downloaded everymonth a new wallpaper
[02:59] <ispiked> xenex: ah, cool.
[02:59] <nickrud> jgrieves, np, I've had my eye open for something like that for a while. A decent evolution email notifier ....
[02:59] <ispiked> xenex: and installed it?
[02:59] <Kyral> most of these were artistic nudes
[02:59] <xenex> ispiked, i dont know :x
[02:59] <skon> Kyral: it's still there....supposedly have half-nude models, I've never seen them though
[02:59] <Hydroksyde> skon, Kyral is right...
[02:59] <bshumate> geoffrian: Official Ubuntu support channel
[02:59] <Kyral> not even fully nude
[02:59] <nickrud> Kyral, they are still in the repos
[02:59] <Kyral> You see worse things on TV nowadays
[02:59] <bshumate> geoffrian: some of those words should convey the accepted conversational topic here
[02:59] <nickrud> or were, last time I looked
[02:59] <ispiked> xenex: search for "ndiswrapper" in synaptic and does it come up with a green box next to it?
[03:00] <xenex> ispiked, yes
[03:00] <ispiked> xenex: it's installed then.
[03:00] <xenex> ispiked, ok what do i do now?
[03:00] <ispiked> xenex: do `cd /media/floppy'.
[03:00] <geoffrian> Ubuntu support?  Does anyone actually need that?  I've been using Ubuntu since version 4.10 and I've never run into a problem.
[03:00] <xenex> ispiked, ok
[03:00] <bshumate> geoffrian: not everyone shares your fortune.
[03:00] <xenex> ispiked, im in that directory now
[03:01] <Madpilot> geoffrian: judging by the traffic here, I'd say lots of people need support - or hang out here to offer it where they can...
[03:01] <geoffrian> Thats too bad.
[03:01] <ispiked> xenex: then `ndiswrapper -i WG511v2.INF"
[03:01] <ispiked> xenex: you can tab complete stuff.
[03:01] <ispiked> xenex: try `ndis<tab>', for instance.
[03:01] <xenex> ispiked, it says i need to be root
[03:02] <ispiked> xenex: alright, add sudo to the beginning.
[03:02] <crimsun> geoffrian: it's a Good Thing.
[03:02] <ispiked> xenex: `sudo ndis...
[03:02] <xenex> ispiked, it says installing wg511v2
[03:02] <ispiked> xenex: cool.
[03:02] <sam_> hello all
[03:02] <xenex> ispiked, and now im back in the floppy directory
[03:02] <ispiked> xenex: what's `ndiswrapper -l' say?
[03:02] <ispiked> xenex: you can pastebin it.
[03:03] <geoffrian> Crimsun I remember you from months ago.
[03:03] <nemik> hello, so i hooked up 2 drives to my ubuntu box that had win XP, but they are chmodded to 500 and I can't veiw them. trying to chmod them to 755 doesn't work. What is wrong?
[03:03] <geoffrian> You banned me for some reason.
[03:03] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/wFVXWz12.html
[03:03] <ispiked> nemik: mount them so you can use them.
[03:03] <bshumate> crimsun: what did we have for dinner man?!
[03:03] <Evil_Whisper> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:03] <DewDude> nemik: are they NTFS?
[03:03] <ispiked> xenex: hrm... should say hardware present, too.
[03:03] <geoffrian> If you are who I remember.
[03:03] <xenex> ispiked, oh do i put in the card now?
[03:03] <nemik> ispiked: i made the accessible with the gnome disk utility and gave them folders in my home folder. but those folders are chmodded 500
[03:04] <sam_> just wanted to say thanks for the advice about the wireless card
[03:04] <ispiked> xenex: yeah. :P
[03:04] <xenex> ispiked, ok the card is inserted
[03:04] <xenex> ispiked, now it says hardware is present
[03:04] <ispiked> xenex: yay!
[03:04] <xenex> ispiked, does that mean it worked?
[03:04] <ispiked> xenex: you can press up arrow to get what you previously typed.
[03:04] <ispiked> xenex: now do `sudo dhclient'.
[03:05] <crimsun> bshumate: I'm still cooking it (omelettes)
[03:05] <sam_> I bought a Linksys wireless-g PCI adapter model WMP54G
[03:05] <bshumate> crimsun: eggggscellent! ;-0
[03:05] <nekrataal> hey
[03:05] <sam_> worked great out of the box
[03:05] <nemik> DewDude: yes they are NTFS
[03:05] <no0tic> nemik, try sudo mount -o remount user,rw for your hds
[03:05] <DewDude> nemik, bring up a terminal
[03:05] <nekrataal> anyone knows how to get a Logitech Quickcam chat to work under ubuntu?
[03:05] <ispiked> xenex: pastebin what `iwconfig' says.
[03:05] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/glCtgk48.html
[03:05] <DewDude> enter sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:05] <nemik> DewDude: ok got a root one going
[03:05] <nemik> ok got that
[03:06] <DewDude> what options are there for your NTFS drives?
[03:06] <Xmasmoo> anyone can give a short answer how I fix ATI Rage Mobility M3 video playback which gives only a green block after hibernation when trying to playback video files with (overlay?) and w32codecs?
[03:06] <ispiked> xenex: alright. try `ping -c 4 google.com'.
[03:06] <Evil_Whisper> wine is huge...
[03:06] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/1IFgSM56.html
[03:06] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/glCtgk48.html <- dhclient
[03:06] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/1IFgSM56.html <- iwconfig
[03:06] <ispiked> xenex: paste `ifconfig'.
[03:07] <nemik> DewDude: ohmmm doesn't look like there are any. there's mount points for my CDroms, proc, floppy, ext3, and swap
[03:07] <DEdwards> I am needing to find wireless drivers for ubuntu.  any suggestions?
[03:07] <DewDude> funky
[03:07] <ispiked> DEdwards: what kind of card?
[03:07] <DewDude> that's right, you added them
[03:07] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/QgUhss12.html <- ifconfig
[03:07] <DEdwards> ispiked: atheros 82.11 a/g
[03:08] <Evil_Whisper> ispiked: How would I check for my wireless card?
[03:08] <DewDude> you know your /dev/ assignments for the drives?
[03:08] <Kyral> madwifi
[03:08] <sam_> DEdwards, check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:08] <ispiked> Evil_Whisper: `lspci |grep 802.11'.
[03:08] <Evil_Whisper> ispiked: thanks
[03:08] <xenex> ispiked, btw if i did ping -c google.com it would of worked because of my ethernet cord :P
[03:08] <nemik> DewDude: though for hda1, it has errors=remount-ro. and now, i don't know the /dev/ assignments unfortunately...
[03:08] <ispiked> xenex: yeah...
[03:08] <ispiked> xenex: oooh.
[03:08] <ispiked> xenex: `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'.
[03:08] <Evil_Whisper> yay
[03:09] <Evil_Whisper> my wireless card works out of the box
[03:09] <ispiked> Evil_Whisper: contrats.
[03:09] <sam_> Evil_Whisper, mine too
[03:09] <xenex> ispiked, done but no output
[03:09] <ispiked> xenex: that's alright.
[03:09] <Evil_Whisper> is there a GUI for wifi?
[03:09] <xenex> Evil_Whisper, youre lucky :\
[03:09] <ispiked> xenex: when you do `ifconfig' now, do you see wlan0 in there anywhere?
[03:09] <nickrud> Evil_Whisper, what model?
[03:09] <DewDude> yeah
[03:09] <DewDude> that's normal
[03:09] <DEdwards> I might have messed something on the install.  First time.:(
[03:10] <ispiked> xenex: or eth1.
[03:10] <DewDude> that tells the kernel if there are errors on the drive to remount read-only
[03:10] <QMario> How do I play MIDI files
[03:10] <ispiked> xenex: or anything different from before. :P
[03:10] <xenex> ispiked, i dont think so
[03:10] <QMario> s/" " /?
[03:10] <DewDude> it happens if you reboot without unmounting
[03:10] <_nat> what is the name of the program that looks like the launch menu of Mac OS X ?
[03:10] <Evil_Whisper> Belkin 802.11g F5D7000
[03:10] <thoreauputic> QMario: install timidity and freepats
[03:10] <ispiked> xenex: paste the output of `dmesg |tail'.
[03:10] <sam_> nickrud,  my wireless worked out of the box also Linksys model WMP54G
[03:10] <DEdwards> I am not seeing any of my network adapters besides llo on first startup.  Did I do something wrong on install?
[03:11] <DewDude> but..anyway..if you knoew the dev assignments, it'd be easy to fix
[03:11] <no0tic> ispiked, can I help xenex too?
[03:11] <sam_> it was way to easy
[03:11] <ispiked> no0tic: sure.
[03:11] <mcquaid> hello, how do i add another user for sudo?
[03:11] <nemik> DewDude: ok ok i see. still, i wish i could get read/write access to these NTFS partitions. not even root can chmod them to 755
[03:11] <QMario> Thoreauputic, are there any ways to convert from MIDI to "whatever"?
[03:11] <ispiked> sam_: wow.
[03:11] <Evil_Whisper> belkin's routers are horrible but there wireless cards aren't bad
[03:11] <xenex> ispiked, http://rafb.net/paste/results/Je9SKK37.html <- there
[03:11] <mcquaid> i thought it would be in /etc/sudoers but i don't even see my login name there
[03:11] <xenex> no0tic, why not? :P
[03:11] <borisattva> hello, i'm trying to install java-package, mplayer and flashplayer but they dont come up as serach results in the synaptic. i have successfully enabled the Universe and Multiverse repositories and downloaded otherpacakges from them, but these do not come up. have they been taken down for whatever reason?
[03:11] <_nat> mcquaid: /etc/sudo
[03:11] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: add the user to the admin group
[03:11] <mwe> ispiked: maybe he needs ifconfig -a to show it if the interface is not up yet
[03:11] <no0tic> ispiked, xenex probably the card is not up, ifconfig -a would list also down cards
[03:11] <nickrud> sam_, thanks, I'm wirelessing this place soon.
[03:11] <ispiked> xenex: `ifup wlan0'.
[03:11] <_nat> what is the name of the program that looks like the launch menu of Mac OS X ?
[03:12] <ispiked> mwe: cool.
[03:12] <_nat> mcquaid: /etc/sudoers
[03:12] <nemik> DewDude: though in the gnome disk utility thing, if i click browse, i can see everything in those hard-drives just fine
[03:12] <xenex> ispiked, ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied
[03:12] <nickrud> !tell borisattva about restricted
[03:12] <ispiked> xenex: add sudo to the beginning. :)
[03:12] <mcquaid> _nat, yes but i don't see my login currently in there but yet i have sudo access
[03:12] <skon> xenex: sudo first
[03:12] <sam_> nickrud, follow this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:12] <DEdwards> I am not seeing any of my network adapters besides llo on first startup.  Did I do something wrong on install?
[03:12] <DewDude> well, i don't use gnome
[03:12] <nickrud> borisattva, that link you got will guide you through those things.
[03:12] <xenex> ispiked, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[03:12] <DewDude> i've never used it
[03:12] <skon> DEdwards: what is your network card?
[03:12] <no0tic> xenex, ifconfig -a shows you something different?
[03:12] <nickrud> sam_, looking as I type
[03:12] <crimsun> borisattva: do you have multiverse and universe enabled?
[03:13] <_nat> mcquaid: for exemple for a user nat, add this line : %nat            ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
[03:13] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: type this in your console lspci |grep 802.11
[03:13] <nekrataal_> hi
[03:13] <xenex> no0tic, bash: ipconfig: command not found
[03:13] <borisattva> nickrud: thats the instruction set i used to enable this in the first place.
[03:13] <DEdwards> integrated realtek
[03:13] <no0tic> xenex, ifconfig -a
[03:13] <nekrataal_> anyone knows how to get a Quickcam Chat working ond Ubuntu?
[03:13] <ispiked> xenex: `ifconfig -a'.
[03:13] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; integrated realtek
[03:13] <borisattva> crimsun: yes i do. i was able to get other packages from them as well. but not those above
[03:13] <xenex> no0tic, i did put the -a
[03:13] <durt> totem wont play video anymore, it just shows a blue screen with audio. any ideas?
[03:13] <mcquaid> what I'm asking I guess is why do i not see an entry already for my user which does currently have sudo access?
[03:13] <xenex> no0tic, OH
[03:13] <nickrud> borisattva, then there's a problem with your sources.list Please paste them on ubuntu-nl.org
[03:13] <skon> durty: what type
[03:13] <no0tic> xenex, you put a p in place of a f :)
[03:13] <jose__> i haven't used irc in about 20 years, can anyone familiar with the server give me the name of any ubuntu help channels?
[03:13] <xenex> no0tic, haha i put a p
[03:13] <mwe> xenex: not ipconfig. ifconfig
[03:13] <sam_> there is a link in that last page I sent you called WIFIHOWTO check it out
[03:14] <crimsun> borisattva: 'mplayer-586', 'java-package', and 'flashplugin-nonfree' don't exist
[03:14] <Evil_Whisper> My Realtek integrated ethernet works fine out the box
[03:14] <crimsun> borisattva: rather '?'
[03:14] <skon> jose_: this is it
[03:14] <ispiked> xenex: do `sudo dhclient wlan0'.
[03:14] <xenex> no0tic, now it shows wlan0
[03:14] <Evil_Whisper> I'm not sure about the int wifi though
[03:14] <jose__> thanks skon
[03:14] <mcquaid> or is the first user in ubuntu added to the admin group instead of sudoers file?
[03:14] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; redo install????
[03:14] <Evil_Whisper> No Hold on
[03:14] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards what exact model of realtek is it?
[03:14] <borisattva> crim: they don't come up in my search results.
[03:14] <_nat> in which group your user is ?
[03:14] <crimsun> mcquaid: added to admin group. admin group is in sudoers already as of Hoary.
[03:15] <no0tic> xenex, dhclient worked?
[03:15] <mcquaid> yes i see thx
[03:15] <xenex> no0tic, its still running the command
[03:15] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  Realtek Ethernet LAN Driver for Windows XP/2000 (v5.606.811.2003; 02-25-2004; 1.99M)
[03:15] <crimsun> borisattva: grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <ispiked> no0tic: he might want to ifdown eth0, no?
[03:15] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  the driver for windows
[03:15] <jose__> I'm trying to update my nvidia drivers.  how can i prevent ubuntu from automatically restarting X or GDM each time I kill their processes?
[03:15] <xenex> no0tic, keeps on saying dhcpdiscover
[03:15] <no0tic> ispiked, no, it isn't necessary
[03:15] <no0tic> xenex, kill it
[03:15] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: is that a wifi card or ethernet?
[03:15] <no0tic> xenex, ctrl+c
[03:15] <mcquaid> now is it the same thing in the end? adding a user to the admin group vs putting an entry for them in the sudoers file? for ex can you limit access to certain things with the sudoers file or same thing in the end?
[03:15] <xenex> no0tic, it stopped, im going to pastebin it
[03:16] <sam_> nickrud,  with the trip to the store took me a total of 30 mins to go wireless
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, ok try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:16] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/alBnMk72.html
[03:16] <nickrud> sam_, "_
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, right
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: what's your router setup look like?
[03:16] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  I need drivers for both. atheros for wifi and realtek for lan
[03:16] <xenex> no0tic, the light is on!
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: using encryption?
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, good
[03:16] <kriggy> I installed 5.1 today but can't get the x window started, only the bash command prompt.  Cant find x11r86 either.
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, now sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:16] <xenex> ispiked, no encryption my dad is too lazy to set it up
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: alright.
[03:16] <Evil_Whisper> My Realtek lan card worked out of the box
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, to look for wireless networks
[03:16] <borisattva> crim: i got this in return  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:17] <no0tic> xenex, paste the output
[03:17] <crimsun> borisattva: I need /all/ of the output
[03:17] <crimsun> borisattva: pastebin
[03:17] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/8BNpc336.html
[03:17] <nemik> how would i figure out /dev/ assignments for 2 new IDE drives i popped in via a PCI IDE interface?
[03:17] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  reinstall???
[03:17] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: I'll look into the atheros wifi card
[03:17] <crimsun> nemik: dmesg will tell you
[03:17] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; thanks
[03:17] <Evil_Whisper> Wait a sec DEdwards
[03:17] <sam_> kriggy,  did you install x11r86 from synaptic package manager
[03:17] <nemik> crimsun: thanks
[03:17] <durt> kaffeine plays video, but it wont run it in full screen
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, good, it's full of wireless networks around you
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, which do you want to connect to
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, which do you want to connect to?
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: far away ones.
[03:18] <kriggy> sam No just did the Cd install.  I thought it would load auto.
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Pastebin your lspci
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: the quality is all 0. :S
[03:18] <xenex> no0tic, ESSID:"05B405439522" <- that is mine
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:18] <borisattva> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/477228
[03:18] <no0tic> ispiked, it's probably due to ndiswrapper
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:18] <nickrud> kriggy, did you do a server install? (it's xorg now, by the way)
[03:18] <ispiked> xenex: iwconfig wlan0 essid 05B405439522
[03:18] <no0tic> ispiked, sometimes it doesn't show real datas
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> and paste there what your lspci says and post the link here
[03:18] <Eleaf> hmm...
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: ah.
[03:18] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; this is on a dif comp
[03:19] <nemik> crimsun: i got a whole ton of errors with dmesg...is this bad?
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> type lspci in console
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> oh
[03:19] <crimsun> borisattva: of course they don't appear. Those are /backports/
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> Do you have access to it?
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: then sudo ifup wlan0.
[03:19] <kriggy> nickrud: no just the standard workstation
[03:19] <sam_> kriggy, from menu bar select system then admin then synaptic package manager
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: if I miss sudo in some commands, just add it.
[03:19] <Eleaf> is it hard to boot using a diskless system?  Like using the filesystem of another computer to boot another without a harddrive??
[03:19] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; no network at all on other comp.  wait a minute.
[03:19] <Eleaf> Eleaf
[03:19] <xenex> ispiked, Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[03:19] <xenex>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[03:19] <crimsun> borisattva: those packages are in breezy, not breezy-backports
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: eek.
[03:19] <kriggy> sam: I only have a command prompt.  No bars no no desktop etc.
[03:20] <nickrud> kriggy, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. that will configure your X as best as ubuntu can, and restart it
[03:20] <borisattva> my synoptic only lists the 'back ports' with multiverse' but i did enable the universe ones just fine
[03:20] <sam_> kriggy,  man
[03:20] <sam_> not good
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[03:20] <no0tic> xenex, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 05B405439522 channel 6 mode managed
[03:20] <Eleaf> really, is it easy to setup a diskless system? = p
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> You should see this
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] 
[03:20] <xenex> no0tic, no output
[03:21] <no0tic> xenex, good
[03:21] <ispiked> xenex: that's good. :)
[03:21] <xenex> no0tic, now the light isnt flashing anymore
[03:21] <ispiked> xenex: now sudo ifup wlan0.
[03:21] <DEdwards> nope
[03:21] <ispiked> no0tic: right?
[03:21] <sam_> nickrud, never heard that problem before
[03:21] <xenex> ispiked, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[03:21] <no0tic> ispiked, I would rather do sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:21] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Does it output anything?
[03:22] <no0tic> ispiked, I don't know much about ifup script
[03:22] <ispiked> xenex: try what no0tic said.
[03:22] <DEdwards> ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co. Ltd. TRL-8913/8913C/8193C+ (rev 10)
[03:22] <xenex> no0tic, the orange light is flashing now i think its working!
[03:22] <Evil_Whisper> Ok
[03:22] <ispiked> no0tic: I don't now much about dhclient. :P
[03:22] <no0tic> ispiked, :P
[03:22] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: That just means you have a diffrent chipset then I do
[03:22] <nickrud> sam_, he's booting into a virtual console, instead of into X. If you hit ctl-alt-f1, you'll see what I mean. (I hope I'm not insulting your intelligence :)
[03:22] <sam_> ubuntu has been the easiest install I have ever had
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Goto System --> Administration --> Networking
[03:23] <sam_> nickrud,  not at all
[03:23] <no0tic> xenex, did it found a dhcp server?
[03:23] <DEdwards> and ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, INC. AR 5212 802.11abg
[03:23] <ispiked> xenex: what's `iwconfig wlan0' say?
[03:23] <borisattva> crimsun: i apologize for ignorance, i just installed this 2 days ago, but can you provide me with the proper url for NON 'backdoor' repositories? they are not available for chekcing in my synoptics as-is
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: goto System --> Administration --> Networking
[03:23] <sam_> guess I jsut did not fully understand his problem
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: You should see Ethernet Connection
[03:23] <no0tic> xenex, sorry for the bad english :)
[03:23] <crimsun> borisattva: just copy the breezy-backports lines but remove "-backports"
[03:23] <DEdwards> I am a DOOFFF
[03:23] <DEdwards> I see that
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Click On It
[03:24] <DEdwards> click enable right
[03:24] <borisattva> thanks!
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> Yep
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> Then Try to goto a webpage
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> like google
[03:24] <sam_> nickrud, why would you want to boot into a virtual console
[03:25] <nickrud> sam_, a lot of reasons, mainly having to do with running a computer as a server, or personal preferences.
[03:25] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Did it work?
[03:25] <ispiked> xenex: still alive? ;)
[03:25] <nickrud> sam_, the ___old___ way was startx, no fancy display managers
[03:25] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, yeah thanks.
[03:26] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: No Problem, Does your wifi work as well?
[03:26] <sureshot> oops
[03:26] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, they both just needed to be enabled and set to DHCP.
[03:26] <sureshot> how does one register there nic on here
[03:27] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Awsome glad it works. :-)
[03:27] <Evil_Whisper> *Awesome
[03:27] <no0tic> xenex, are you still with us?
[03:27] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, thanks for the help.
[03:27] <mwe> sureshot: /msg nickserv help register
[03:28] <ispiked> no0tic: did mode managed fix the essid thing?
[03:28] <kriggy> sam: I'm going to reinstall.  I must not have picked the right settings but it seemed straightforward
[03:28] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Your welcome glad I could help :-)
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, no, sudo I think ;)
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, I launch iwconfig always with essid and channel options
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, mode can be auto
[03:28] <nickrud> kriggy, what kind of video card do you have
[03:29] <dfgas> anyone know what package i have to install to get oRTP? i am using gaim cvs and it requires that package for voice/video and i think i have it installed but its not working
[03:29] <xenex> no0tic, my internet disconnected after i did that last command
[03:29] <xenex> no0tic, so i had to remove my wireless card because nothing else would work
[03:29] <kriggy> It's on the mother board of a Dell Dimension L500cx.  BTY DSL works well.
[03:29] <sam_> nickrud, you still here
[03:29] <nickrud> sam_, yes.
[03:29] <no0tic> xenex, well, because probably the accesspoint dhcp server had changed your default route
[03:30] <sam_> man  I will never and I mean never
[03:30] <sam_> hit ctl,alt,f1 again
[03:30] <nickrud> kriggy, in a terminal, lspci, and look for what kind of video it has
[03:30] <pashaw> sam_,   why?
[03:30] <durt> is there a way to see my apt-get history
[03:30] <durt> ?
[03:30] <no0tic> xenex, now.. do your wireless card have an ip?
[03:30] <nickrud> sam_, ctl-alt-f7 to get back :)
[03:30] <ispiked> durt: /var/log/dpkg is what I use.
[03:30] <no0tic> xenex, dhcp assigned an ip to it?
[03:30] <Evil_Whisper> durt: Synaptic --> File --> History
[03:30] <mwe> or just alt-f7
[03:31] <kriggy> nickrud: to late I'm reisntalling.  I may have chosen server at the very beginning instead of just hitting "enter" at the boot prompt.
[03:31] <sam_> it put me into a state that I have no idea how to get out of
[03:31] <sam_> now you tell me
[03:31] <mwe> sam_: alt-f7
[03:31] <nickrud> kriggy, ok, it's not like it takes long to reinstall :)
[03:31] <pashaw> sam_,   everyoone from space knows that
[03:31] <sam_> not everyone
[03:31] <Yv12345vY> not sure what i did but the system runs much faster now
[03:31] <kriggy> nickrud: thanks for your help!
[03:31] <sam_> due to work I have been using windows for years
[03:32] <nickrud> kriggy, what help? Maybe a little moral support.
[03:32] <borisattva> it worked, and now i understand the consept of repositories configuration. thanks nick, crim
[03:32] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/TALnrD98.html <- what i got from the last command, i also just got disconnected again
[03:32] <sam_> about a month ago I quit work and throw out my windows machines
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> Can somone help me with this error? wine-0.9.4_0.9.4-1_i386.deb (--install):
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache', which is also in
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> package capplets-data
[03:32] <mcquaid> so is it all or nothing with sudo? i have users set up so there home is not readable by each other, can I make sudo respect that still? or once they have admin they can read all?
[03:32] <varsendagger> what is a good program to see a harddrive graphically?
[03:32] <kriggy> sam: thanks for your help as well. Are you back to normal now?
[03:32] <sam_> all I have now is ubuntu
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, why you launched it 3 times?
[03:33] <ispiked> xenex: you get diconnected because you get a new IP.
[03:33] <sam_> yep
[03:33] <xenex> no0tic, i dont know :x
[03:33] <xenex> ispiked, oh...:x
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> Can somone help me with this? trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache', which is also in
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> package capplets-data
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> Errors were encountered
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, :)
[03:33] <nalioth> mcquaid: edit your sudoers file
[03:33] <xenex> no0tic, should i put the card back in?
[03:33] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: yeah, don't install unoffical debs or remove the other package
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> I made that deb
[03:33] <nickrud> mcquaid, you can configure sudo that way, but I don't think it's non-trivial. You might want to look into just giving particular users particular rights with sudo
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> tho
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> using check install
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, try, then do the same thing and try to ping something out on the internet
[03:34] <xenex> no0tic, i inserted my wireless card and the light is blinking
[03:34] <ispiked> xenex: try `ping -c 4 google.com'.
[03:35] <xenex> ispiked, my wireless card isnt working, its still trying to find an access point because of the blinking light
[03:35] <niffe> i cant get my linksys wpc54g work :/
[03:35] <ispiked> xenex: ah.
[03:35] <ispiked> xenex: `sudo dhclient wlan0'  should help that.
[03:35] <Evil_Whisper> I can't remove capplets-data it removes gnome
[03:35] <no0tic> ispiked, xenex well, it's 3:35 am here, I'm going to sleep, good luck!
[03:36] <durt> i think when libxine1c2 was upgraded a couple of days ago, totem-xine and other video players stopped working...
[03:36] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: maybe you can do it if you use a different --prefix for ./configure - like /usr/local
[03:36] <ispiked> no0tic: cya.
[03:36] <xenex> no0tic, thanks for your help, i hope this will work :\
[03:36] <Evil_Whisper> Aw I forgot the prefix
[03:36] <sam_> niffe, I have the WMP54G and it worked great
[03:36] <cafuego> !info beagle dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 726 kB, Installed size: 2312 kB
[03:36] <niffe> sam_: my doesnt find anything when i scan with it
[03:36] <cafuego> !info beagle
[03:36] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[03:36] <sureshot> ok all call me stupid but i cant figigure out how to set a password for my nic would someone be so kind to help out a littlel
[03:37] <no0tic> ispiked, xenex bye!
[03:37] <Evil_Whisper> thanks
[03:37] <xenex> ispiked, its still flashing
[03:37] <pashaw> sureshot,   /msg nickserver register <password>
[03:38] <sureshot> thanks
[03:38] <sam_> niffe, check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:38] <pashaw> sureshot,   oops  nickserv
[03:38] <sam_> there are instructions here for installling
[03:38] <ispiked> xenex: so what happens when you do the dhclient thing?
[03:38] <Evil_Whisper> takes forever compiling it :(
[03:38] <robotgeek> sureshot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFIHowto
[03:39] <Yv12345vY> i just started up and none of my doc apps are up.  they gave me some errors.  i'm talking about the power one, the wireless network one and the trash.  can anybody help????
[03:39] <sureshot> i got it thanks.
[03:39] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: it should keep the object files from the previous compile af the new ./configure. thus make should be much faster the second time
[03:40] <niffe> sam_: it says Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface        Subsystem: Linksys: Unknown device 0033
[03:40] <sam_> niffe, think I spoke to soon man I hope you have the WPC54GS
[03:40] <niffe> yep, ver2
[03:41] <cafuego> niffe: I have one of them. Works fine via ndiswrapper (with wpasupplicant)
[03:41] <niffe> hmm, why it is texas instrument ;P
[03:41] <cafuego> niffe: TI makes the ACX chipsets
[03:41] <niffe> cafuego: hmm, what is wpasupplicant?
[03:42] <cafuego> niffe: wpasupplicant is a userspace wpa encryption service.
[03:42] <ispiked> xenex: dhclient is a command that tried to get an IP address for your card using dhcp from your router.
[03:42] <ssdo> anybody have an idea on reboot problems satelite laptop with breezy?
[03:42] <ispiked> ssdo: need more details.
[03:42] <sam_> cafuego, I never could seem to get those wrappers installed correctly
[03:42] <ssdo> it does not reboot after logging out in gnome
[03:42] <skon> has anyone had success running AIM for windows, not gAIM? I can't actually download the DEB file from the site
[03:42] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, yeah, more details.  I have breezy runnin on an alienware laptop and it takes forever to rebot
[03:42] <cafuego> sam_: it's precompiled, how hard can it be?
[03:43] <ispiked> ssdo: why should it?
[03:43] <kaminix> anyone good at compilation problems here? I'm trying to compile GAIM 2.0.0beta1. =/
[03:43] <niffe> cafuego: what if i doent have encryption on the box?
[03:43] <sam_> have no idea
[03:43] <cafuego> niffe: Then you don't bother with wep or wpa.
[03:43] <sam_> spent have the night with no luck
[03:43] <mwe> kaminix: and you don't have all the libraries you need to do it?
[03:43] <kaminix> The config say I do.
[03:43] <ssdo> i want it fixed and i still havent found a solution, i was hoping anybody in here knows
[03:43] <sam_> guess it's jsut me
[03:43] <kaminix> It's the make that gives me error.
[03:43] <kaminix> *errors
[03:44] <niffe> yep, iv booted the box so there is no cyption now
[03:44] <mwe> kaminix: what errors? pastebin
[03:44] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, and you tell it to reboot after logging out??
[03:44] <robotgeek> cafuego: you heard the one on bash.org about stealing wireless, right?
[03:44] <niffe> anyone here to come with realvnc and fix my wlan? :)
[03:44] <kaminix> msrtprecv.c: In function 'ms_rtp_recv_process':
[03:44] <kaminix> msrtprecv.c:123: error: 'struct _RtpSession' has no member named 'payload_type'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[3] : *** [msrtprecv.lo]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1/src/mediastreamer'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1/src'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1'
[03:44] <kaminix> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[03:44] <mwe> kaminix: don't paste in here
[03:44] <ssdo> yup, then verbose follows telling me its shutting down then after "rebooting" appears, laptop screen just go black
[03:44] <kaminix> Where then?
[03:45] <mwe> !paste
[03:45] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:45] <mwe> there
[03:45] <skon> nobody's tried AIM for linux?
[03:45] <mwe> then paste the url to your paste in here
[03:45] <cafuego> kaminix: Broken code. rm -rf or go to #c./
[03:45] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, how old is the laptop?  back in the day i used to have similar problems with my old ibm
[03:45] <sam_> well I need to go get some food. thanks to all
[03:45] <sam_> later
[03:45] <ssdo> i have to push power button to start it again...shutdown is ok, its reboot thats a problem
[03:45] <kaminix> What's #c./
[03:45] <niffe> anyone here to come with realvnc and fix my wlan? :)
[03:46] <cafuego> kaminix: the C help channel.
[03:46] <Yv12345vY> not sure ssdo, sorry
[03:46] <ssdo> satellite a10, pemtium4,ram 256mb, intel extreme graphics
[03:46] <kaminix> How do I fix a broken code? Just reconfigure the source?
[03:46] <cafuego> Your problem is not an Ubuntu problem.
[03:46] <mwe> kaminix: paste at the pastebin, but more output and I'll have a look
[03:46] <NCLife> what programm would you guys suggest for dvd burning?
[03:47] <Zen> Yeah, so my installation of Ubuntu died some how =S
[03:47] <Zen> no idea
[03:47] <Eleaf> I like k3b NCLife
[03:47] <kaminix> mwe, how much more? That's where the error messages start.
[03:48] <NCLife> thanks Eleaf, i shall give it a try
[03:48] <mwe> kaminix: maybe 50 lines back upto and including the error
[03:48] <cafuego> Like I said, the code is broken. If you don't know C, just give up, delete it.
[03:49] <mwe> Well it compiled for me, so the code is not broken
[03:49] <Zen> Any idea why ubuntu might just die on me?  It won't properly finish bootup--it croaks after about 5 seconds on "Calculating Modules" during startup
[03:49] <skon> Zen: error messages?
[03:49] <cafuego> mwe: if you get missing members in structs, the code *is* broken. Either via basic erro or through missing includes.
[03:49] <kaminix> mwe, I have to redo the compilation first, 'cause most of it is out of history, I'll get back to you.
[03:49] <Zen> skon, something about mounting the FS I believe
[03:50] <adrian__> #web
[03:50] <Zen> though I know the drive is fine, it is the same drive I run Windows off of
[03:50] <adrian__> joind#web
[03:50] <cafuego> adrian__: /join #web
[03:50] <adrian__> join#web
[03:51] <adrian__> thanks cafuego
[03:51] <Zen> oh well (looks sad) guess I'll just reinstall
[03:51] <niffe> anyone here willing to fix my wlan with realvnc? msg me.
[03:51] <skon> Zen: has it been partitioned for ext2?
[03:51] <nemik> crimsun and DewDude: thanks for the help! i edited the fstab now and got the NTFS drives to work perfectly! thanks for the help guys
[03:51] <Zen> can linux format a partition FAT32?
[03:51] <cafuego> Zen: yes. 'mkfs.vfat' can do that.
[03:51] <kaminix> Could the code break if I ./configure a lot with different flags?
[03:52] <cafuego> kaminix: Not normally. I'd lay the blame squarly with the authors.
[03:53] <Zen> skon, it was formatted Reiser
[03:53] <DewDude> no problem
[03:53] <DewDude> i totally forgot
[03:54] <skon> What is Reiser
[03:54] <h4x> hello. Does ubuntu have portage? like gentoo
[03:54] <crimsun> h4x: no.
[03:54] <h4x> crimsun: thanks
[03:55] <skon> h4x: apt-get or synaptic
[03:55] <Zen> skon, ReiserFS--a high performance (supposedly) filesystem http://www.namesys.com/
[03:55] <skon> Zen: why don't you just do ext2 ? that's what linux usually is
[03:56] <Zen> skon, linux is usually used with ext3 =S
[03:57] <kaminix> Is there anyway to know if the new release of xorg and gaim will be in dapper?
[03:57] <crimsun> kaminix: post-NY, yes
[03:58] <nickrud> kaminix, you can check the current package status for dapper on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <skon> or that
[03:58] <skon> why not use that
[03:58] <kaminix> Is it post-NY the freeze-thingie will be? When they stop adding programs to dapper?
[03:59] <durt> im convince the problem is that libxine1c2 1.0.1-1ubuntu10 works but the newer 1.0.1-1ubuntu10.2 doesnt. where can i get my hands on this older version?
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me print with a canon i560? i have downloaded drivers and done everything listed in the canon iXXX howto thread but it is still not working
[04:00] <Evil_Whisper> later guys
[04:00] <Zen> skon, the performance increase by using Reiser is quite noticable, especially compared to journaled ext3 (normal)
[04:00] <Amaranth> durt: 10.2 means it's a security update, you should file a bug so they can make the security fix unbreak things
[04:00] <Evil_Whisper> bye
[04:00] <crimsun> kaminix: no, post-NY == post-New Year
[04:00] <skon> Oh, you're probably right, I've just never heard of it, so it could be a compatibility issue with the Ubuntu installer
[04:00] <crimsun> kaminix: obviously Upstream Version Freeze (UVF) means nothing new will go in
[04:01] <Amaranth> durt: otherwise, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1c2_1.0.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb
[04:01] <Amaranth> durt: just make sure you don't let synaptic, apt-get, update-notifier, etc upgrade it again
[04:01] <kaminix> I meant if the UFV will be post-NY. :)
[04:01] <crimsun> kaminix: yes, UVF is post-NY
[04:02] <nemik> so when i try to open some wmv files, i get a warning saying it could be a security risk, but i can open them with the "open with" application, is this Xine spitting this error?
[04:02] <kaminix> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6101 pasted.
[04:02] <ElitePete> nemik, no.
[04:02] <Zen> skon, that's the thing--I would understand that, but I've been using this for over a month
[04:02] <kaminix> 87 rows
[04:02] <nemik> ElitePete: is there a way to get rid of the warning so it will play just when i double-click?
[04:02] <Amaranth> nemik: no, that's nautilus being stupid
[04:03] <niffe> alvanson: can you see my msg
[04:03] <ElitePete> nemik, right click the file "open with"
[04:03] <Amaranth> nemik: the .wmv part of the file says it's one mimetype, the actual file says it's another
[04:03] <Amaranth> nemik: nautilus warns you about this because someone could be tricking you into opening a bad file
[04:03] <nemik> Amaranth ElitePete: oh ok, i see
[04:03] <Yv12345vY> anybody know how to fix this "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet"???
[04:03] <skon> Zen: I see...well I'm sorry I don't have much to offer, you seem to know more about this than I do right now
[04:03] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: dapper?
[04:03] <Wilf> can ubuntu convert NTFS to EXT3 without wiping the data?
[04:04] <Amaranth> Wilf: No, but you can resize the NTFS to make room for an ext3 partition.
[04:04] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, what's dapper?
[04:04] <Wilf> mmmm that doesn't help me...
[04:05] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: I'll take that as a no. :) What did you do before this started happening?
[04:05] <Wilf> you see i've been meaning to go back to ubuntu (i used to use it alot, but school required me to use some software suites that only run under windows)
[04:05] <Wilf> so now it has corrupted somehow, so perfect time to swap
[04:05] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, i wanted to delete a file
[04:05] <cyphase> does anyone know of a tool that can take an ethereal capture file and return all the web pages that were requested?
[04:05] <Wilf> however my D: is full of music and stuff...
[04:05] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, i got similar errors at startup
[04:05] <purplefeltangel> wilf: i don't know about that, but try downloading ntfsprogs. it does stuff with ntfs.
[04:05] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: hrm
[04:06] <cyphase> i know that doesn't exactly make sense, so you can ask what i mean :P
[04:06] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: i dunno, sorry
[04:06] <Wilf> mmmmk, thanks purplefeltangel and Amaranth.
[04:06] <Yv12345vY> could this be nautilus related??
[04:06] <Yv12345vY> i wonder
[04:06] <netdur> is there place for "dapper wishlist"?
[04:06] <pashaw> Wilf, leave it ntfs for now     youll be able to read it  just not write to safely
[04:06] <Amaranth> Wilf: You could resize the NTFS, install ubuntu in the free space, copy things over, delete the NTFS, then resize the ext3.
[04:06] <durt> sorry amaranth, my battery just died :( where'd you say that old libxine was and where do i file a bug? thanks
[04:07] <Eleaf> is there an easy way to diskless boot?
[04:07] <Amaranth> Wilf: Of course somewhere along that trip you'll probably end up killing a partition anyway so it's probably not the best idea.
[04:07] <Amaranth> durt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1c2_1.0.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb
[04:07] <Amaranth> durt: file a bug at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <Amaranth> !usbbot
[04:07] <ubotu> Amaranth: Not a clue
[04:07] <Amaranth> err
[04:07] <durt> thanks
[04:08] <Amaranth> Eleaf: I guess not. :/
[04:08] <cafuego> Eleaf: PXE
[04:11] <durt> it works now :) - i guess it was a bug
[04:11] <niffe> anyone here willing to fix my wlan with realvnc? msg me.
[04:13] <Syco54645> hi i need some help
[04:13] <Syco54645> my harddrive fried
[04:13] <Zen> any word on ATI 3D support in AMD64 linux distros?
[04:13] <Syco54645> so i am getting a new one soon
[04:13] <alvanson> welcome to my world
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> Zen: there is a word, and the word is no
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> just use i386
[04:14] <skierkegaard> how do i mount a samba share?
[04:14] <gimmulf> install a 32bit distro, that's what i did after trying ubuntu4 distro... Had problems with almost everything :)
[04:14] <Syco54645> but i ordered an sata and my board doesnt support it, so i am going to need to get an sata controller.  i know that promise cards work very well in linux (at least from my experience), but i already have a promise ide controller in my machine.  would a promise sata controller conflict with the ide controller
[04:14] <Hydroksyde> Zen, the other word is buy an NVidia card
[04:15] <Syco54645> and since i want to get this system up and going asap, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with sata controllers in linux and could recommend one to me
[04:15] <Hydroksyde> damn
[04:16] <Syco54645> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816102060
[04:16] <Syco54645> that is the one that i am looking at
[04:16] <Hikaru79> Whenever I open a text file with Gedit from a mounted FTP share using Nautilus, it opens it read-only. I *do* have write permission to the directory, so why can't gEdit open the file in anything but read-only? =/
[04:16] <skierkegaard> anyone here answering questions?
[04:16] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   linux to windows   or windows to linux?
[04:16] <Syco54645> no
[04:16] <nickrud> skierkegaard, no
[04:16] <Syco54645> pashaw no
[04:16] <admrl> nope i dont think anyone answers questions on here
[04:16] <Syco54645> lol
[04:16] <admrl> go to #questions to ask them
[04:16] <skierkegaard> its a linux system both sides
[04:16] <mwe> cafuego: if the code for gaim2-beta1 is broken, I wonder why it compiles for me
[04:16] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   then why are you using smb
[04:17] <Hikaru79> skierkegaard, then use NFS or something, not smb =/
[04:17] <parksy> crimsun: still around? was talking to you earlier about a sound card
[04:17] <skierkegaard> ok, maybe im messed up, what if it is windows?
[04:17] <Hikaru79> Windows client or windows server?
[04:17] <jose> anyone care to help me?
[04:17] <skierkegaard> client
[04:17] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   windows uses smb  linux to linux  nfs is better
[04:18] <nickrud> !anyone
[04:18] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:18] <nickrud> jose, that means just ask :)
[04:18] <mwe> kaminix: still here?
[04:18] <ispiked> what does ubuntu do with /etc/hostname?
[04:18] <jose> yeah I kinda figured that...lol
[04:18] <skierkegaard> ubotu, because i often get ignored
[04:18] <ubotu> skierkegaard: I haven't a clue
[04:18] <jose> I need help installing WINE
[04:19] <nickrud> skierkegaard, you're not getting ignored, it's just
[04:19] <mwe> jose: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:19] <jose> and that mean what?
[04:19] <thunderbolt> Anyone have any experience installing a Epson Stylus CX3700 or CX3800 or CX3800, or compiling and installing guten-print 5rc1 without breaking anything?
[04:20] <nickrud> jose, apt-get is THE tool for getting software
[04:20] <jose> where do I get it?
[04:20] <thunderbolt> jose: it's installed with your base ubuntu system.
[04:20] <Syco54645> anyone here that can help me out with the sata?
[04:20] <nickrud> jose, it's on your system. Have you ever used a command line (if I'm insulting your intelligence, sorry :)
[04:21] <jose> how do I access it?  Sorry for all the questions..still learing
[04:21] <jose> that's ok nickrud
[04:21] <nickrud> jose, then, in a terminal, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:22] <thunderbolt> Anyone have experience with gutenprint?
[04:22] <thunderbolt> Installing it from source?
[04:23] <whyameye> Is there a way to keep programs from stealing focus from each other? I'm running one program and suddenly OpenOffice pops up and asks me about saving something. In Windows you can prevent programs from stealing focus from each other. Is there a way to do this with ubuntu?
[04:23] <nickrud> jose, if that doesn't find wine, say so.
[04:23] <nickrud> go bengals
[04:24] <mwe> nickrud: he needs to enable universe if he hasn't, to get wine
[04:24] <brownsfan> nickrud: they are having a good year
[04:24] <thunderbolt> Or alternatively, precautions to take before installing something from source, in case stuff breaks.
[04:24] <nickrud> mwe, exctly
[04:24] <jose> it's asking me for a password but it won't let me type anything
[04:25] <nickrud> jose, it just doesn't repeat your keystrokes, for security
[04:25] <Madpilot> jose: just type, passwords are hidden
[04:25] <mustard5> jose, you can't see it , but its being entered
[04:25] <pashaw> whyameye, set your current window   to stay on top
[04:25] <nickrud> enter your own password
[04:25] <kriggy> nickrud: The re-install worked.
[04:25] <mwe> kaminix: ping
[04:25] <Hydroksyde> are linmodem drivers in ubuntu anywhere?
[04:25] <kaminix> mwe, I'm here.
[04:25] <whyameye> pashaw: so then when I *want* to switch I'd have to undo that. Clumsy.
[04:25] <nickrud> kriggy, great.
[04:25] <mwe> kaminix: this is a breezy system?
[04:25] <sambagirl> happy holidays from your brasilian freind, chao!
[04:25] <whyameye> I want to set it up so *I* choose the focus of the program, not Gnome.
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> this is for an intel 436EP
[04:26] <pashaw> whyameye, may be a nicer way   but that works
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> i mean
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> 536EP
[04:26] <thunderbolt> Hydroksyde: I don't see any linmodem stuff in apt-cache, there are some non-free drivers for winmodems, though.
[04:26] <mustard5> Hydroksyde, not in the repositories I don't think..you need to get hem from an outside source
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> mustard5, thought so
[04:26] <kaminix> Kind of... I did a server installation and aptituded in xorg and fluxbox.
[04:26] <mustard5> !winmodem
[04:26] <ubotu> winmodem is probably To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[04:26] <Hikaru79> Is it possible to make nautilus scripts appear in the primary context menu, not the "Scripts" submenu? I have an "Open Terminal Here" script, but its so inconvenient to go to the submenu to use it :(
[04:26] <Hikaru79> I know Hoary used to have it in the first level.
[04:26] <whyameye> pashaw: it doesn't do what I want.
[04:27] <Hikaru79> Is it still possible to do that, or was that script compiled into Nautilus?
[04:27] <dima_> hey how can i install LiVES of Ubuntu ???
[04:27] <jose> i think it's installing now
[04:27] <nickrud> Hikaru79, no, but you could install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:27] <mwe> kaminix: yeah, but you use breezy in your sources.list, right?
[04:27] <Hikaru79> dima_, you don't install lives...
[04:27] <nickrud> it's on the main menu
[04:27] <kaminix> mwe, yes.
[04:27] <nickrud> *context
[04:27] <mustard5> Hikaru79, you on gnome?
[04:27] <Hikaru79> Oh, hey, cool. Thanks nickrud.
[04:27] <Hikaru79> mustard5, yeah.
[04:27] <Madpilot> Hikaru79: does your right-click menu have an "Open in Terminal" option when you right-click a directory?
[04:27] <mwe> kaminix: did you install libao-dev and libaudiofile-dev, like suggested in README?
[04:28] <dima_> no i mean video editing software
[04:28] <mustard5> Hikaru79, there is a package you can install that puts a terminal option in your context menu
[04:28] <Hikaru79> Madpilot, no, but it has Scripts->Open Terminal Here
[04:28] <Hikaru79> Okay, yes, thanks :)
[04:28] <Hikaru79> But, for future reference, is it possible anyway?
[04:28] <Hikaru79> With other scripts, for example>?
[04:28] <mwe> kaminix: and is your system up to date -eg sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <kaminix> mwe, good idea to use the readme file. Well... those were some of the files I ended up installing.
[04:28] <kaminix> Yes.
[04:29] <Madpilot> Hikaru79: don't think so, but I guess I got the right-click option from the nautilus-open-terminal package
[04:29] <mwe> kaminix: so libao-dev and libaudiofile-dev are installed?
[04:29] <kaminix> mwe, yes.
[04:29] <dima_> Does anybody know how to instal "LiVES"- video editing software for UBUNTU???
[04:29] <BlankFie> What is the command line program on Ubuntu to configure X?
[04:29] <mustard5> Madpilot, yeah, it would be handy
[04:30] <kaminix> This is the configuration I was using btw, thought it might be of interest... ./configure --with-speex --enable-vv=yes --enable-mono=yes --enable-gnutls=yes --enable-dbus --disable-perl
[04:30] <mwe> kaminix: Then I'm kinda lost, sorry. it compiles fine for me
[04:30] <jose> If it says it's install now where do I go to to launch it?
[04:30] <Madpilot> mustard5: the other little tweak that should be in by default, IMO, is the "turn Numlock on by default" package - numlockx, I think it's called...
[04:31] <mwe> kaminix: ok.
[04:31] <kaminix> mwe, still no idea? =/
[04:31] <mwe> kaminix: speex is that a phone thing?
[04:31] <blanky> !backports
[04:31] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:31] <dima_> does anybody know any good video editing software ???
[04:31] <kaminix> It's an audio codec, think it's used for phoneing.
[04:31] <mustard5> Madpilot, yes. I agree. :)  I'm always tapping away on the numpad fruitlessly when I first start up :)
[04:32] <blanky> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:32] <Madpilot> mustard5: enabling the numlock fix is fairly easy - ask google or search ubuntuforums...
[04:32] <niffe> alvanson: here?
[04:32] <mwe> kaminix: can you compile it if you just ./configure --prefix=/usr/local ?
[04:33] <kaminix> mwe, I'll see.
[04:33] <kaminix> First time it gave an error about my Perl libaries though, shouldn't I include --disable-perl?
[04:34] <mwe> kaminix: I didn't
[04:34] <lowman62> what file type would a lexar jumpdrive secure be?
[04:34] <kaminix> mwe, what perl libaries do you have installed?
[04:35] <kaminix> Now I don't have mono support on... won't I miss out on some cool features then?
[04:35] <mwe> kaminix: a lot. what is it complaining about?
[04:36] <jose> where do I go to luanch WINE?
[04:36] <kaminix> mwe, don't remember, it was hours ago and I solved it with "--disable-perl". I think it said something about Perl libaries not beaing in the right place.
[04:36] <lowman62> i been searching all day to this stupid jumpdrive to work...i got it finally mounted but I cannot write to it :(
[04:37] <mwe> kaminix: I tend to think it's the speex that's causing the error, since the error is about rtc which has to do with voip
[04:38] <mwe> kaminix: but disabling perl shouldn't cause compile errors I guess
[04:38] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:38] <kaminix> mwe, Got the perl error. Should I paste it or just reconfigure with --disable-perl?
[04:38] <lowman62> is nfsd a filesystem format? :P
[04:38] <mustard5> lowman, ntfs is
[04:38] <kaminix> mwe, it was when I disabled perl the problem solved.
[04:38] <mustard5> lowman62, dont' know about nfsd
[04:39] <mwe> kaminix: well if you care about perl, paste the error
[04:39] <lowman62> hmmm! I wonder if it is ntfs...i think i tried that already tho :P
[04:39] <Eleaf> I may use the livecd for a computer to add it to my renderfarm (it doesn't have a harddrive)  will I be able to enable ssh, since by default ubuntu doesn't come with openssh server...
[04:39] <kaminix> I don't know if I do... are there any cool features if I include perl? :p
[04:39] <Amaranth> no paste
[04:39] <mwe> kaminix: or try ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-perl
[04:39] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:39] <mustard5> lowman62, so what is the name of the device then?
[04:40] <mustard5> lowman62, have you done a sudo fdisk -l <insert device name here> command?
[04:40] <mwe> kaminix: I haven't used it, but I'm sure you can do some cool scripting if you're into that sort of thing
[04:40] <BlankFie> So for some reason ubuntu stopped working O_o
[04:40] <lowman62> yes I did that and it did not show up
[04:40] <BlankFie> Kind of.
[04:40] <kaminix> mwe, ok, I'm not, so I'll disable it. :)
[04:41] <BlankFie> X won't start and it's not picking up my network card.
[04:41] <lowman62> "/dev/sdb"
[04:41] <BlankFie> (That I can tell
[04:41] <mwe> kaminix: yeah. try ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-perl
[04:41] <blanky> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:41] <mustard5> lowman62, if its ntfs then linux can't in a general sense write to ntfs
[04:41] <mustard5> lowman62, certain experimental programs can do it.
[04:41] <kaminix> mwe, do you know if there's anything cool I need mono for? Or is it just scripting thingies too?
[04:41] <BlankFie> The last thing I did was install Cluster Knoppix and reconfigured LILO
[04:42] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. disabling stuff should not cause compile errors, I think
[04:42] <nickrud> kaminix, I just dropped back in, but off the top of my head?: beagle, muine, tomboy, all mono things I use daily
[04:42] <lowman62> mustard5: i think i messed it up the last time i had mandrake installed...see it used to have a little program built into it and i deleted it off and so i thought maybe if i could mount it i could share it to my windows box and change its format...i am not even sure if you can do that \
[04:42] <mwe> kaminix: I'm more worried about the speex, but it's just a hunch
[04:43] <kaminix> But I'm thinking about enabling it, since I might miss out on cool features if I don't.
[04:43] <kaminix> making ./configure --disable-perl --prefix=/usr/local now
[04:43] <blanky> hey guys, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , it says something about using drivers from ati.com, are they better than the ones found in synaptic?
[04:43] <phasegen> Anyone have a recommendation for a good all-in-one ?  My epson just died...
[04:43] <mwe> kaminix: ok. then see if make succeeds
[04:43] <Kyral> HP PSC1210
[04:43] <Madpilot> phasegen: get an HP, they seem to work best with Linux
[04:43] <nickrud> phasegen, don't get an psc1510
[04:44] <mustard5> lowman62, ah ok..my usb stick has something similar...a built in program for locking the device with a password or something
[04:44] <kaminix> Is "tcl_cmds.c:631: warning: passing argument 3 of 'Tcl_GetIndexFromObj' from incompatible pointer type
[04:44] <kaminix> " a bad start? :p
[04:44] <thunderbolt> phasegen: The older Epson Stylus CXs work well.
[04:44] <phasegen> I never could get the epson to scan.  It was a cx4600.
[04:44] <lowman62> mustard5: yes thats it...it's a lexar secure jumpdrive 128 meg
[04:45] <thunderbolt> ah.
[04:45] <nickrud> phasegen, if you go hp psc, make sure you get one with the 45 black ink cartridge, it's the most cost effective.
[04:45] <mustard5> lowman62, hmm...have you tried looking for their website to see if they can help with the problem?
[04:45] <mwe> kaminix: don't worry too much as long as it's only warnings
[04:45] <kaminix> mwe, ok
[04:46] <lowman62> mustard5: yes I did and they had the driver for windows but of course it gets recognized in windows xp but doesn't show up
[04:46] <Madpilot> phasegen: have a look at both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:46] <lowman62> it shows in ubuntu but is not writable
[04:46] <mustard5> lowman62, hmm k
[04:46] <mustard5> lowman62, bit of a tricky problem really
[04:46] <lowman62> i am beginning to think it is better to hang it on the tree as a decoration instead :(
[04:47] <Ralken> anyone here useing banshee
[04:47] <lowman62> mustard5: it sure is...i have exhausted myself <--doesn't give up easy on things at all
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman, I found sometimes that windows always recognise the second 'drive' when you plug it in
[04:48] <Eleaf> I just burnt the livecd but it still won't work..
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, maybe you could try rebooting with the usb stick still in place
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, in windows that is
[04:48] <Ralken> anyone here using banshee
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, my second 'drive' on the usb stick sometimes shows up as a floppy device
[04:48] <Ralken> well better question anyone here can help me get banshee working correctly under ubuntu
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, that was on windows 98 though
[04:49] <lowman62> mustard5: I tried that several times as well as tweaking the registry to see if I could get it to show...I think it is just toasted...and the time spent i could save and just buy another one ...bigger and better LOL
[04:49] <mustard5> lowman62, probably right :)
[04:49] <mwe> kaminix: well I just tried to compile with speex support and it succeded
[04:49] <mustard5> lowman62, I can imagine its annoying to have toasted it though :)
[04:49] <lowman62> *hangs it on the tree* :P
[04:49] <kaminix> mwe, bad news for me, right?
[04:49] <kaminix> :(
[04:50] <lowman62> ya it has some 3d files on it I really wanted...from maya
[04:50] <ubuntu> a
[04:50] <ubuntu> TEST
[04:50] <lowman62> 6 months worth of work :(
[04:50] <Ralken> I just ripped a cd using mp3 encoding with banshee and I tryed to play it and banshee just cycles through the play list without playing anything, any suggestions?
[04:50] <kaminix> mwe, did you install speex from the repos or from source?
[04:50] <ubuntu> ^^
[04:51] <ubuntu> i am idiot
[04:51] <lowman62> <--me too
[04:51] <lowman62> :(
[04:51] <mwe> kaminix: from the repos. I'm thinking maybe it's the mono that's causing the error though
[04:51] <mwe> kaminix: has it finished compiling?
[04:52] <kaminix> mwe, ok, I installed mine from source 'cause I got some error from the repo-versions.
[04:52] <lowman62> isn't mono visual basic for linux? or am I wa off here?
[04:52] <kaminix> mwe, 1 GHz :)
[04:52] <kaminix> lowman62, it's .net for linux
[04:52] <kaminix> lowman62, actully, it's for Linux, Windows and Mac.
[04:52] <lowman62> ya .net...i am still trying to wrap my brain around that .net stuff
[04:52] <kaminix> :)
[04:53] <kaminix> How do I set a gtk-theme outside of gnome?
[04:53] <mwe> kaminix: yeah. actually I got a configure error with speex just now, too
[04:53] <kaminix> Seems to be working now. :)
[04:53] <lowman62> cool! i am bustin a hump to learn java...i am going for scjp
[04:53] <kaminix> installing now. :)
[04:53] <mwe> lowman62: it's for .net stuff, like c#
[04:54] <lowman62> <--still having trouble getting a grip on oop <--is not like c
[04:55] <lowman62> ya I read a book about c# ...i am still sticking to c...at least for now LOL
[04:55] <kaminix> Crap... now I don't have gnutls. :p I'll have to redo the compiling. :p
[04:55] <kaminix> Aw well, I can atleast see if it's working. :)
[04:55] <Hydroksyde> the people on the ubuntu CD cover look happy
[04:55] <kaminix> Hydroksyde, why wouldn't they be? ;)
[04:55] <mwe> kaminix: good. now you need to figure which option caused the error. just experiment
[04:56] <lowman62> Hydroksyde: how long did you wait till you got your cd's?
[04:56] <lowman62> i am on week 8 ...*tick tick tick*
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> lowman62, about a month or two
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> i wasn't counting
[04:56] <mwe> lowman62: I'm into c# if you know C and want to learn oop, try C++
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> but it was a while
[04:56] <kaminix> Hmm.. why don't I have a tray-icon?
[04:57] <Hydroksyde> I ordered when 5.04 was current, and got my 5.04 CDs when 5.10 was out
[04:57] <BoukenPink> Okay, y'all... I just tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx like from the starter guide on the wiki, but when I have it enabled in xorg.conf, my computer will freeze a couple minutes after logging in every time... anyone know what the deal might be?
[04:57] <lowman62> mwe: I have been told that before...and your probably right it would probably be a better route to go...I have never been known to take the easy road tho <--subborn taurean :|
[04:57] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. I do
[04:57] <Hydroksyde> if anybody is in my half of the world, I could send some ubuntu 5.10 CDs
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you tried inspecting your Xorg.0.log?
[04:58] <lowman62> Hydroksyde: what part of the world would that be?
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, that might give some clues as to what is happening
[04:58] <mwe> lowman62: you only had --disable-perl different from me
[04:58] <kaminix> mwe, is ther anyway to tell the configure that I'm in gnome? I tihnk it might have to do with me being in fluxbox.
[04:58] <lowman62> <--savannah, GA
[04:58] <Hydroksyde> 90 degrees through 270 degrees
[04:58] <xerophyte>  http://qdb.us/32511
[04:58] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Er... Where would I find that? :)
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, its in /var/log
[04:58] <Hydroksyde> i live in new zealand
[04:58] <thunderbolt> KIWI!
[04:58] <BoukenPink> mustard5, thanks, I'll take a look.
[04:58] <thunderbolt> :-D
[04:59] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k..good luck
[04:59] <lowman62> ok...that should take me a while to figgy that out...nah my brain hurts from the jumpdrive issue..:P
[04:59] <Ralken> I just ripped a cd into mp3 format using banshee.  When I try to play the mp3's back it doesnt work. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong.
[04:59] <mwe> kaminix: try ro run it from gnome or kde and see if you get the tray icon
[04:59] <mwe> kaminix: maybe it doesn't like the slit in fluxbox
[05:00] <Epic|> I know this is an ubuntu channel but do any of you know of software routers that do QoS?
[05:00] <Hydroksyde> Ralken, do you have the MP3 decoder installed
[05:00] <Epic|> I think it's QoS. Where you can specify traffic that gets first dibs on teh connection
[05:00] <kaminix> I tihnk it has to do with the compilation. 'cause I get a tray icon with Kopete and the repo-version of GAIM.
[05:00] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, IPcop
[05:00] <mwe> kaminix: it shouldn't matter what wm you're in when compiling
[05:00] <Epic|> Really. Sweet. Thanks
[05:00] <Ralken> Hydroksyde,  I think I do
[05:00] <lowman62> well i was born Longitude: 80W08 Latitude: 26N08 where is that?
[05:01] <Ralken> Hydroksyde, gstream something?
[05:01] <mwe> kaminix: ok. maybe the --disable-perl thing, though it sounds weird
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, there's another freebsd based router called monowall or something...
[05:01] <Amaranth> !mp3
[05:01] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Ralken, not sure
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> what ubotu said
[05:01] <Epic|> Thought that required programming skillz?
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, I don't think so
[05:01] <kaminix> mwe, Why should it need perl to get me a tray icon?
[05:01] <Epic|> OK thanks
[05:01] <thunderbolt> lowman62: You were born in Florida, perhaps?
[05:02] <Hydroksyde> I use IPCop, that works for me
[05:02] <BoukenPink> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6102 <- It repeats something along these lines several times.
[05:02] <Epic|> How does that compair to smoothwall?
[05:02] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. it's just that it's the only configure option you had different from mine
[05:02] <lowman62> thunderbolt: ding ding ding you are a winner... :P
[05:02] <thunderbolt> This 'inter-net' is such a great thing.
[05:03] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k..I'll see if I can make sense of it, but I am no expert :)
[05:03] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, i've never tried smoothwall, but it was once based on smoothwall
[05:03] <kaminix> I think I remember something from when compiling 1.5 in Gnome that the ./configure printed something about me being in gnome somewhere in the first like... 10 lines or something.
[05:03] <Epic|> Alright. I'll give it a try. THanks alot
[05:03] <lowman62> actually I copied the wrong one..that was my wifes...mine is this... long: 79W23  lat:43N39
[05:03] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, it's LFS now, and hasn't lost any features when it moves
[05:03] <ubuntu> woo
[05:03] <lowman62> but you were right
[05:03] <BoukenPink> mustard5, thanks. :D Nearly everyone's likely more of an expert than me. ;)
[05:04] <mwe> kaminix: I see. I compiled it in kde
[05:04] <Kyral> !flash
[05:04] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:04] <kaminix> Does it say anything about what wm you're using?
[05:05] <dfgas> root@ubuntu:/home/dfgas# apt-get build-dep gaim
[05:05] <dfgas> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[05:05] <dfgas> any idea how i fix that
[05:05] <Ralken> Hydroksyde, thanks I only had half of what I needed lol
[05:05] <nickrud> dfgas, you need 'deb-src' lines that duplicate the 'deb' lines
[05:06] <dfgas> k
[05:06] <jessica_> hello
[05:06] <nickrud> dfgas, in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you on gnome or kde?  just curious
[05:06] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Gnome
[05:06] <Wilf> not good.
[05:06] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k
[05:07] <jessica_> this is gonna sound really stupid but how do you install stuff on ubuntu? i've never used linux before
[05:07] <Wilf> ubuntu ad a kernal panic while booting
[05:07] <Wilf> off a live CD! :<
[05:07] <Wilf> jessica_, put cd in cd drive, set bios to boot off cd, reboot computer, follow the prompts.
[05:07] <mwe> kaminix: I didn't notice. I though you could even compile it from the terminal outside of X. let me check though
[05:07] <nickrud> jessica_, you should start with, from the top panel, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[05:08] <Epic|> Hydroksyde, QoS is where you can specify certain traffic gets through before another type, right?
[05:08] <jessica_> ok
[05:08] <kaminix> mwe, ok
[05:08] <mustard5> BoukenPink, can have a link to the how to and a pastebin of your xorg.conf please?
[05:08] <mwe> kaminix: it says checking for a lot of compilers in the beginning, no mentioning of wm
[05:09] <kaminix> Should I have one of those fortran compilers it's asking for?
[05:09] <jessica_> ok i got the package manager up, anything else or is it self explanatory?
[05:09] <gimmulf> how do i see a websites pagerank using googlebar?
[05:09] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Sure, just a sec. :D
[05:09] <mwe> kaminix: fortran. I don't think so
[05:10] <Wilf> Kernal panic - not syncing: atempted to kill init! - while booting off a live cd...faulty hardware? :<
[05:10] <Madpilot> !tell jessica_ about synaptic
[05:10] <nickrud> jessica_, well, maybe not so self explanatory. :) But the help is pretty good
[05:10] <kaminix> mwe, hmm.. aw well, at least I got it working. It'd make sense for me to go to bed now... :p It's 5:10AM here. :p
[05:10] <kaminix> btw, how do I start a webcam convo with someone?
[05:10] <mwe> kaminix: I don't have all that crap, f77, fortran, fort and what not
[05:11] <jessica_> lol sorry guys its like my first day using this
[05:11] <mwe> kaminix: good night :)
[05:11] <BoukenPink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6103 I have it on the default "ati" driver now since it works. >.>
[05:11] <BoukenPink> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[05:11] <BoukenPink> And that's the how-to
[05:12] <Madpilot> jessica_: my first day was about seven months ago now, you pick it up quickly ;)
[05:12] <BoukenPink> And I have an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 8500DV
[05:12] <beardousa> in the console, files with red text and black background are sym links, right?
[05:12] <nickrud> jessica_, then maybe Applications->Add Applications would be a better place to start, until you've climbed the curve a bit :)
[05:12] <mahangu> beardousa: depends on your theme
[05:12] <jessica_> awesome! just got tired of windows and cant afford a nice mac
[05:12] <mustard5> BoukenPink, thanks
[05:13] <mahangu> baghira installation?
[05:13] <mahangu> mustard5: sup :)
[05:13] <mustard5> hey mahangu
[05:13] <mustard5> hey doing some troubleshootin' as usual :)
[05:14] <grayman> hmmm
[05:16] <Wilf> Kernal panic - not syncing: atempted to kill init! - what's wrong. happens no matter which cd i try to boot off.
[05:17] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I don't see this in your xorg.conf as it says to do in the starters guide  ... Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[05:17] <brownie17> does anyone know of a virus checker that works in ubuntu that will scan windows drives?
[05:17] <BlankFie> apt-get can't find mplayer for some reason.
[05:18] <beardousa> After unzipping some program source, should files such as INSTALL and COPYING be sym links?  I wonder what could have happened there?
[05:18] <nickrud> brownie17, I've heard that clamav is good for that
[05:18] <BlankFie> It's fuxing with my head. Everything I'm finding online says you can. I have universe and multiverse uncommented.
[05:18] <mustard5> BoukenPink, do you have a copy of the xorg.conf that isnt working?
[05:18] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I assume that part might be in there
[05:19] <BoukenPink> mustard5, that's pretty much it, with the exception of "ati" instead of "fglrx"
[05:19] <Madpilot> BlankFie: use Synaptic, search for mplayer - there are about a dozen packages, and I'm not sure any one of them is actually just called "mplayer" - they're all "mplayer-<something>"
[05:19] <brownie17> nickrud, good on you. i got sasser, cannot stay in long enough to remove it. it just shuts down.
[05:19] <BlankFie> Madpilot: I did
[05:19] <mustard5> BlankFie, have you done a sudo apt-get update yet?
[05:19] <BlankFie> I'm only getting one.
[05:19] <BlankFie> Yeah, I ran apt-get update twice
[05:19] <BlankFie> Let me refresh in synaptic.
[05:19] <nickrud> brownie17, I may be 100% mistaken, tho
[05:19] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you could try adding that line then? Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" ?
[05:20] <lowman62> <computer attict prayer>here I lay me down to sleep. my laptop computer at my feet. if it should die before I wake. buy me a new one for goodness sake :P</computer attict prayer>
[05:20] <Kyral> lol
[05:20] <Madpilot> BlankFie: I'm showing 10 packages with "mplayer" in the name here... double-check your sources.list?
[05:20] <BlankFie> Yeah, I did
[05:20] <nickrud> brownie17, sorry, I am
[05:20] <BoukenPink> I'm pretty sure I did before and it didn't work, but I'll try again, just to make sure. :)
[05:20] <BlankFie> Made sure they were all uncommented.
[05:20] <BlankFie> Are yu on hedgehog badger?
[05:21] <mustard5> BlankFie, no breezy badger
[05:21] <BlankFie> hedgehog or badger*
[05:21] <BlankFie> sorry
[05:21] <BlankFie> Yeah, i'm gettin g mga-vid-source
[05:21] <BlankFie> :-/
[05:21] <mustard5> BlankFie, have you manually edited your sources.list before?
[05:21] <BlankFie> Yes, I just did.
[05:21] <mustard5> !sources
[05:21] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:21] <BlankFie> I know man.
[05:21] <BlankFie> /etc/apt/source.list
[05:22] <mustard5> BlankFie, try getting a new sources.list from the stuff that ubotu has up above
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> whenever I try to compile the 536EP driver, i get an error
[05:22] <Hydroksyde>    /lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist
[05:22] <Hydroksyde>    please install kernel source
[05:22] <mustard5> BlankFie, copy over your old sources.list with a new one
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> i've installed kernel-source
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> i mean
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> linux-source
[05:22] <BlankFie> This no mouse thing is killing me.
[05:23] <Hydroksyde> what kind of mouse?
[05:24] <lowman62> ctrl+alt+f1 <--fixes the mouse thing :D
[05:24] <beardousa> how do you see where a broken link is pointing?
[05:24] <Hydroksyde> lowman62, Human Beings (tm) don't use text consoles
[05:25] <lowman62> <--never accuse me of such things ...eww eww
[05:25] <Hydroksyde> and yet you're in a channel for "linux for human beings"?
[05:25] <nickrud> beardousa, ls -l <link>
[05:26] <lowman62> ya just seeing what the othersides doin *shrugs* :P
[05:26] <mahangu> Hydroksyde: be nice now
[05:26] <rahendrix> hello anyone now how to get the fglrx drivers to work with the X200m Chip
[05:26] <thunderbolt> We cybertronians have come here to take care of you, puny flesh-creature.
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to attempt some script editing, and would welcome some help.
[05:27] <lowman62> lol
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> I want to make an if statement in my suspend script that checks whether the linuxant HSF driver is running or not, and stop it if it is (I have the command for the second part).
[05:27] <beardousa> ahh, that gave me the info I needed to get this working.  thanks
[05:27] <BlankFie> Crap, need mouse so badly.
[05:28] <lowman62> BlankFie: I was sayin that the other day when I was trying to draw a circle with my etch-a-sketch :P
[05:30] <otep> errr pretty offtopic but has anyone here ever tried to d'load wikipedia.org for offline browsing?
[05:30] <BlankFie> LOL
[05:31] <ordinary> How many gigs is wikipedia?
[05:31] <thunderbolt> Its under a gig for only the latest, IIRC
[05:32] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Well... It still froze up >.>
[05:32] <grajul> hello im new to this can any one help me how do you install a .run document
[05:33] <fr33mind> I would like to convert AVI to somthing readable with my home dvd.  mpeg maybe?  what is the name of the tool to do that?
[05:33] <kaffeend> aloha
[05:33] <BlankFie> How do you paste in nano?
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, yeah..I realised as you left I might have sold you a red herring :)
[05:34] <Kyral> CTRL+SHIFT+V
[05:34] <intelikey> hello kaffeend
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, sorry :)
[05:34] <BlankFie> Nope :-/
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I'm at a loss unfortunately
[05:34] <BlankFie> It was coppied from X
[05:34] <kaffeend> hi intelikey
[05:34] <BlankFie> So.. I need the mouse
[05:34] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Thanks for trying. :)
[05:34] <Kyral> BlankFie: thats it
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Will modprobe -r blahblah get upset if blahblah isn't loaded?
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I've tried googling up the error message with no luck...
[05:34] <intelikey> BlankFie dubble click
[05:35] <kaffeend> wow - been away for a long time, forgot how many p33ps were in here :o
[05:35] <BlankFie> Doubl click with my pen0r?
[05:35] <mustard5> BoukenPink, its really the only option I can think of..to google up your brand of card and see if there are others that have the same problem
[05:35] <intelikey> BlankFie that is to say both mouse buttons at one time
[05:35] <BlankFie> hmmm
[05:35] <BlankFie> Ok, I don't have mouse buttons to click
[05:35] <BoukenPink> mustard5, It's funny, because it worked on hoary~
[05:35] <hanasaki> can soemoen help em wwith chaining and squidGuard?
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, hmmmm
[05:36] <kaffeend> I was running Ubuntu64 months ago, and had numerous troubles... well, now I'm back with i386 :D
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you could try reading the guides that ubotu has and see if they have anymore information
[05:36] <mustard5> !ati
[05:36] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> !info modprobe
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, check the two links above from ubotu
[05:36] <BlankFie> kaffeend: Was that hoary or no?
[05:36] <kaffeend> hi ubotu - did ya miss me?
[05:36] <hanasaki> squidguard keeps crashing
[05:37] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Thanks. :)
[05:37] <mustard5> BoukenPink, the forum link has some stuff on troubleshooting
[05:37] <kaffeend> BlankFie: Hoary - aye
[05:37] <fr33mind> What is the name of the app to convert AVI to MPEG ?
[05:38] <BlankFie> Hopefully Badger is better
[05:38] <kaffeend> !avi
[05:38] <ubotu> methinks avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:38] <BlankFie> AVI is for everything
[05:38] <BlankFie> WMV is for windows.
[05:38] <kaffeend> BlankFie: so do I :) I'm downloading the iso now
[05:38] <BlankFie> Heh
[05:39] <BlankFie> What's a text editor for X?
[05:39] <Madpilot> BlankFie: gEdit?
[05:39] <BlankFie> thanks!
[05:39] <silverton> nano, vim, gedit..um...kwrite
[05:39] <BlankFie> woot
[05:39] <Kyral> gedit, mousepad, XEmacs, XVim, krwite, kate...
[05:39] <BlankFie> Couldn't paste the sources config
[05:39] <nickrud> gvim is the one
[05:39] <BlankFie> The only x editor I could think of is kate
[05:39] <intelikey> i have a defered question about cups and hp pcs750 printer combo,  i set the thing up in and it worked then rebooted and no work no mo.   i tried to set it up again and all i get is "cups server unreachable"  it's on the same box how can it be un reachable ?
[05:39] <Madpilot> !start an editor war
[05:39] <ubotu> ed is better than emacs.
[05:40] <kaffeend> heya nickrud - remember moi?
[05:40] <nickrud> kaffeend, sure do :)
[05:40] <kaffeend> I'm having another crack at Ubuntu nickrud
[05:41] <nickrud> yes? you're having better success this time, I hope
[05:41] <intelikey> any sharp sysadmin have the key to this ?
[05:41] <BlankFie> WOOT!
[05:41] <kaffeend> hehe... d/loading the iso installer now ;)
[05:41] <Amaranth> intelikey: is cupsd running?
[05:42] <salut> rebonjour q tous1
[05:42] <salut> jai encore un leger probleme ^^
[05:42] <nickrud> kaffeend, when it's installed, I'd suggest starting at http://AddingRepositoriesHowto (if you hadn't already planned that)
[05:42] <intelikey> Amaranth no  and if i do a /etc/init.d/cupsys restart i get error cupsd exited with code 99
[05:42] <kaffeend> nickrud: cheers :)
[05:43] <nickrud> kaffeend, hope to see you around ;)
[05:43] <salut> ho::sorry zrong chqnnel MP
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> Can someone answer my question about modprobe above?
[05:43] <kaffeend> I'll be back in here using Xchat soon tho
[05:43] <kaffeend> no mIRC Krap
[05:43] <fr33mind> !start an op war
[05:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fr33mind
[05:43] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i didn't see it ask again.
[05:44] <ArabianMystic> Greetings. I have just installed Ubuntu but X does not want to run...
[05:44] <kaffeend> anyone use the wiki here? lol
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will modprobe -r blahblah get upset if blahblah isn't loaded?
[05:44] <intelikey> Amaranth why would i get error code 99 ?
[05:44] <BlankFie> !start stop
[05:44] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BlankFie
[05:44] <niffe> well, that wlan just wont run
[05:45] <Amaranth> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=374918&postcount=5
[05:45] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, back to Ubuntu now  not debian right?
[05:45] <kaffeend> ubotu: are you on drugs?
[05:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kaffeend
[05:45] <intelikey> tonyyarusso modprobe loads modules that's what it's for.
[05:45] <Madpilot> kaffeend: :D
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: You're back :)
[05:45] <intelikey> Amaranth looking
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: That is correct.
[05:45] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   just got home
[05:45] <athauglas> hey all.
[05:45] <fr33mind> !start cashflow
[05:45] <ubotu> fr33mind: Are you smoking crack?
[05:45] <kaffeend> MadPilot: has ubotu been nerfed?
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: me too. I just logged in.
[05:45] <fr33mind> !start smoking crack
[05:45] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fr33mind
[05:46] <Madpilot> kaffeend: not that I know of - what's not working?
[05:46] <kaffeend> ubotu: what is crack?
[05:46] <ubotu> kaffeend: I think you lost me on that one
[05:46] <kaffeend> nerfed
[05:46] <nickrud> !me
[05:46] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <ubotu> nickrud: What?
[05:46] <kaffeend> he used to say "that's what a lot of people in here smoke"
[05:46] <athauglas> anyone able to help out with wireless issues?
[05:46] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Okay. I did in fact do a number of things. Not only did I reinstall but I re-downloded the image and re-burned it onto an entirely new disc.
[05:46] <Madpilot> kaffeend: if you mean, "Has someone cleared some of the sillier tells out", then yeah, I think cafuego did
[05:47] <kaffeend> MadPilot: okies
[05:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, not a bad idea
[05:47] <Madpilot> kaffeend: you're welcome to add them back in until the next cleanout! :P
[05:47] <Amaranth> kaffeend: Please don't make the bot say things like that.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, My issue is that the linuxant HSF modem driver upsets suspend, so I'm trying to add a line stopping it to the suspend script, per the ThinkWiki suggestion, but I need to know if the script needs to check whether it's loaded or not and only run that command if it is, or if it can just be run regardless.
[05:47] <kaffeend> w00t! 91%
[05:47] <andrew> Anyone know a good chan on IRC for hardware questions?
[05:47] <Amaranth> Madpilot: No he isn't. :)
[05:47] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Erm... I'm on the command-line... I wouldn't know how to copy and paste stuff to a website...
[05:47] <riskk> hi
[05:47] <kaffeend> andrew: what's your hardware problem?
[05:48] <riskk> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer and i keep getting this error" there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom please make sure it is in the drive. if retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of the cdrom"
[05:48] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  ok   1 sec
[05:48] <riskk> i know the cd is okay though..i have many copies of the distro and they all do that
[05:48] <Madpilot> kaffeend: !run still works - try that one :P
[05:48] <intelikey> tonyyarusso no it shouldn't cry too much if it is not loaded.
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Now that's good.
[05:48] <kaffeend> MadPilot: wtf??
[05:48] <andrew> kaffeend, its a hot summer and Im getting overheat problems. I checked AMDs site and my CPU can run at higher temps, but it seems my mobo auto-shuts down at around 65. Need to find a way to change the threshold
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay.
[05:49] <riskk> anyone?
[05:49] <Madpilot> andrew: that sounds like a BIOS setting
[05:49] <Amaranth> riskk: try burning another CD, but at a slower speed
[05:49] <fr33mind> The wiki doesn't answer me... I'm looking to convert AVI to mpeg..
[05:49] <kaffeend> andrew: I'm having similar issues - cpu fan is way too slow
[05:49] <Amaranth> intelikey: did that help?
[05:49] <kaffeend> andrew: what's your mobo?
[05:50] <andrew> Madpilot, yeah, couldnt find anything in the bios though. There might be a bios upgrade somewhere, but I thought Id ask around
[05:50] <skon> Anyone knoe, if I have a CDRW in my drive and I run cdrecord, do I need any special options to make it rewriteable, or is it rewriteable by default?
[05:50] <Amaranth> fr33mind: You'll want mencode then, google should come up with examples.
[05:50] <andrew> kaffeend, gigabyte k7 triton
[05:50] <riskk> amaranth
[05:50] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   find section "Device"  youll see identifier   and driver   lets start with driver   whats that read
[05:50] <riskk> i didnt burn the cd, these are direct cds from ubuntu
[05:50] <andrew> My CPU fan is around 5000 RPM, which is nrmal
[05:50] <intelikey> tonyyarusso programmers like to use ' >/dev/null 2>&1 '  on the end of things to hide messages and error/warnings  you might consider that.
[05:50] <Amaranth> riskk: That's a problem. :/
[05:50] <andrew> normal*
[05:50] <riskk> why?
[05:50] <riskk> shouldnt they work?
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: Because you can't burn another one.
[05:51] <kaffeend> andrew: get the gigabyte app called EasyTune 5
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: But I've never had one from canonical fail.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> How can I specify whether or not a driver should load at boot?  (And if it doesn't, do so later.)
[05:51] <riskk> but if its from ubuntu
[05:51] <riskk> why would it be wrong
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: When was the last time you cleaned your cdrom drive?
[05:51] <andrew> kaffeend, As long as I can get my box to stay up long enough, will do :P
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will write that down.
[05:51] <kaffeend> andrew: :o
[05:51] <riskk> amaranth: its brand new
[05:51] <riskk> its a dvdrw sony
[05:51] <riskk> i tried other stuff
[05:51] <riskk> and it works
[05:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Radeon xpress 200mx (rs480)
[05:51] <riskk> so its not the cd rom per se
[05:52] <ArabianMystic> *200m
[05:52] <Amaranth> riskk: I just ran out of ideas then. You must just have a bad CD.
[05:52] <riskk> no
[05:52] <riskk> cause i went and go tmore
[05:52] <kaffeend> andrew: last night I compltely rebuilt my box - including reseating the h/s and fan
[05:52] <riskk> after it gave this error, and they do the same thing
[05:52] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, if you want to get into X quick we could just use vesa  like your debian X did
[05:53] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   comment out the driver and add your own driver line  with "vesa"
[05:53] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: let me try that...
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> I want to set it up so the Linuxant HSF modem driver does load on boot when I'm at home where there's dialup so I need it, but turn it off when I'm at school with DSL.
[05:53] <borisattva> i created a bunch of directories in /dev/ when figuring out the mounting process. i unmounted them and now trying to delete them, but denied due to permissions. i tried chown and chmod but against denied as they are owned by root, logging into which doenst seem to be an option. what do i need to do?
[05:53] <andrew> I just found a jumper setting had been screwing with my CPU - forcing it to a lower FSB speed. So I fixed that, my CPU is running at the correct speed - cept the correct speeds faster and its getting hot :?
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: that's a tricky one
[05:54] <kaffeend> reboot time - cya'll soonish
[05:54] <pashaw> andrew,    troubleshooting-101:  do you smell smoke?
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: why can't you load it when you're at school? it shouldn't break anything
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, I don't mind doing a manual edit when I go between locations if that helps.
[05:54] <Xenguy> Hi - does anyone know if there is a *definitive* nVidia driver HOWTO -- I'm looking at 2 documents + 1 forum, and getting quickly confused beyond all recognition
[05:54] <andrew> pashaw, no, theres too much dust in the air from when I opened the case :P
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: in that case just modprobe it when you're at home and don't when you're at school
[05:55] <pashaw> andrew,   curious  what FSB did you set?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, No, it shouldn't, but it slows down boot (a minor inconvenience) and confuses suspend (which I may or may not succeed at fixing, so I'm investigating options).
[05:56] <intelikey> Amaranth tonyyarusso simple setup two boot options in grub that boot to different runlevels in the rc#.d for the one set up the modem in the rc#.d for the other dont
[05:56] <andrew> I just set it to autodetect
[05:56] <riskk> amaranth
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, meaning never have it load on boot, and use modprobe to bring it up as necessary.
[05:56] <riskk> you there?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ?
[05:56] <andrew> Previously there was a jumper forcing it to 100
[05:56] <Amaranth> riskk: yeah
[05:56] <riskk> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81600.html - this site addresses the problem im having exactly
[05:56] <andrew> With auto, it now picks it up at 133, which is right
[05:56] <riskk> but im not sure exactly what this means since im a newb, do i need to get an old version or what? read the last post
[05:56] <riskk> i have amd 64
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, How's that?
[05:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, done.
[05:57] <intelikey> like let the defaule stay the same and remove the setup script from the /etc/rc3.d/   and setup grub by adding an idintical entry with different title and '3'  on the end of the append line.
[05:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try the start X
[05:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I have. Fatal IO error.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, What's the append line?
[05:58] <intelikey> man thats what runlevels are for
[05:58] <AdmiralCrunch> hello,  I just need a bit of help here. I just got 2x 250GB drives for Christmas, and I am running off a live CD. I have my Ubuntu and Windows partition on the same disk. Ever since I tacked the 2 drives on, I can't get into my Ubuntu or Windows partitions
[05:58] <sahooe> hi people! I'm having a problem with extra-large .xsession-error file
[05:58] <sahooe> there are mainly three errors repeated thousands of times
[05:59] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: ATA or SATA drives?
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> SATA
[05:59] <Amaranth> riskk: That says you need the x86 installer.
[05:59] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   any other errors?
[05:59] <riskk> how do i get that
[05:59] <intelikey> boot vmlinuz append root=blah  vga=799  3
[05:59] <Amaranth> riskk: You'd have to download it, it's a different CD.
[05:59] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: hmm, I was going to tell you to check your ATA drive's jumper settings! :P
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> The new drives are SATA and the drive with the Ubuntu/Windows is SATA
[05:59] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: EE reads "no matching modes" and "screen found but none have a usable configuration"
[05:59] <intelikey> oh and don't forget the initrd.img  hehhe
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Ah.  Added something to that once before.
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> So I tried to reinstall GRUB
[06:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok better
[06:00] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: not sure what to suggest, then, if the first SATA drive works fine...
[06:00] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Ahh and "No symbols found"
[06:00] <DewDude> question: if i install XP and it overwrites my MBR...how can get GRUB back?
[06:00] <DewDude> is it even possible?
[06:00] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[06:00] <sahooe> the first error in my xsessions-error is this: kbluetoothd: HciSocket::open()
[06:00] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it's in /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:00] <sahooe> and this: kbluetoothd: Bind failed: No existe tal dispositivo
[06:00] <AdmiralCrunch> even though I will get shit for suggesting ubuntuguide.org they have a thing how to get grub back DewDude
[06:00] <Amaranth> !grub
[06:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   your using a CRT  or LCD?
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: there you go
[06:01] <DewDude> bam
[06:01] <DewDude> i need number two
[06:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: LCD
[06:01] <DewDude> because that's exactly what's going to happen
[06:01] <sahooe> any help? I have had .xsessions-error file of 13GB!!!
[06:01] <DewDude> although, i have a crazy plan
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: Yeah. You'd need the live cd to fix it.
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: Please don't mention vmware. :)
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Thanks for the suggestion.
[06:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Madpilot: so I removed the power from both of the new drives, still no go
[06:01] <DewDude> no no no
[06:01] <AdmiralCrunch> I think I screwed up the MBR
[06:01] <kaffeend> um, can someone help me thru the Nero burning process plz? :/
[06:02] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   scroll down to the monitor  and screen  sections    do you see a freshrate #   like 59-120 or something
[06:02] <DewDude> for the reason i need XP, i need to actually boot the OS on the hardware
[06:02] <Amaranth> kaffeend: I believe you tell nero you want to copy a CD, then choose the iso as the source
[06:02] <DewDude> but..i have a lot of dos games i found
[06:02] <kaffeend> Amaranth: thanks
[06:02] <DewDude> like....redneck rampage
[06:02] <sahooe> the second error is: Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[06:02] <Amaranth> DewDude: I meant use vmware to install to the HD. :P
[06:02] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: depth and modes but no refresh rates.
[06:02] <intelikey> Amaranth actually no tht page is no help. it's a default ubuntu 5.4
[06:03] <sahooe> plz help! I'm sick of 13GB error files
[06:03] <DewDude> .....that wouldn't work
[06:03] <Amaranth> intelikey: About all I can say is google for "cupsd error 99" then, sorry.
[06:03] <kaffeend> Amaranth: So I choose "Disk Image or Saved Project" in the Nero Wizard?
[06:03] <Amaranth> kaffeend: yeah
[06:03] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: That's for screen, mind. Section: Monitor is only two lines long.
[06:03] <eric_> I just installed clamav but it doesn't show any sign of being active is there something I'm not doing
[06:03] <kaffeend> Amaranth: okay - thankyou
[06:03] <intelikey> Amaranth yes thank you for trying.
[06:03] <Amaranth> kaffeend: It'll default to only showing *.nrg files
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Do linux disks need to be defragmented like Windows ones do?
[06:04] <DewDude> because doesn't vm report a totally different set of hardware
[06:04] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: no
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, How come?
[06:04] <kaffeend> Amaranth: hmmm
[06:04] <DewDude> i've not used it, i don't know what it does
[06:04] <Amaranth> DewDude: Yeah, it'd probably bluescreen when you booted it on real hardware.
[06:04] <DewDude> but i'm thinking of putting Win98 on the existing FAT32
[06:04] <DewDude> just for the DOX
[06:04] <DewDude> DOS
[06:04] <sahooe> how can I disable kbluethooth for good?
[06:04] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: They de-fragment on-the-fly.
[06:04] <Amaranth> DewDude: dosbox
[06:04] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   for monitor  what does option read
[06:04] <DewDude> and having 3 OS's
[06:04] <Amaranth> !info dosbox
[06:04] <DewDude> man
[06:04] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[06:05] <DewDude> nah
[06:05] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: DPMS
[06:05] <DewDude> i never really got it to run that well
[06:05] <intelikey> !info dosemu
[06:05] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[06:05] <DewDude> redneck rampage doesn't run good emulated
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, Slick.
[06:05] <kaffeend> Amaranth: Nero won't let me save it as an .iso
[06:05] <Amaranth> kaffeend: You mean it won't let you open an iso?
[06:06] <eric_> Do I need to have ClamAv installed for virus protection?
[06:06] <Amaranth> kaffeend: in the file chooser there should be a drop-down list on the bottom for choosing what type of files to show.
[06:06] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I can open it, but it wants to mount it as an .nrg
[06:06] <Amaranth> eric_: No, linux doesn't really have viruses.
[06:06] <intelikey> eric_ are you running a mail server ?
[06:06] <ElitePete> Amaranth, it does, they just suck ;-P
[06:06] <Knowerrors> Any people that know midi setup around?
[06:06] <Amaranth> eric_: Or spyware. And ubuntu doesn't open any ports so you don't need a firewall either. Isn't it great? :)
[06:07] <eric_> that's cool but I did activate firestarter already
[06:07] <lowman62> eric_: not viruses perse but there are other things linux can get...trojans..I have found a couple on my system using clamav
[06:07] <ElitePete> eric_, firestarter isnt' really a firewall, it's a gui for built-in Ip Tables
[06:07] <ball> Will ubuntu work on an early iBook?
[06:07] <ElitePete> lowman62, do you think it's necessary to install clam-av ?
[06:08] <lowman62> mine came installed already...but i guess it is a personal choice thing
[06:08] <Lukian>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[06:08] <Lukian> 11188 root      16   0  105m  23m 4884 S 81.8  5.2   6:05.99 Xorg
[06:08] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: did you get that?
[06:08] <eric_> I hate trojans, when I first was using windows and getting used to the internet I had a bunch of those
[06:08] <Lukian> Xorg shouldn't be using 80% cpu constantly? :p
[06:08] <Xenguy> Has anyone had recent experience configuring nVidia drivers?  Was it difficult?
[06:08] <Ralken> can some one help me get ipod working
[06:08] <Amaranth> !oldworldmac
[06:08] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Amaranth
[06:08] <lowman62> eric_: they can be a pain in the (_!_)
[06:08] <Amaranth> ball: Can it run OS X?
[06:09] <ball> Amaranth: Perhaps
[06:09] <ElitePete> any real need to install Clam-AV ?
[06:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  yep  finding the best next step since i cant see your config directly
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> lowman62, Does it take forever for you to run system scans?  I did that once and never got to the end of it after many hours.
[06:09] <Amaranth> !find nvidia
[06:09] <cafuego> ElitePete: If you distribute files for windows, maybe.
[06:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I could dcc you the log?
[06:10] <ElitePete> cafuego, explain ?
[06:10] <cafuego> ball: Ubuntu will work on any iBook. Just not the older G3 PowerMacs.
[06:10] <intelikey> ElitePete sure you need to install it cause if you don't you wont sleep at night just wondering if your box has a bug    :)
[06:10] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   how about the config
[06:10] <lowman62> ElitePete: Like I said I have found trojans on my system using it...I also recieve 1000's of emails per day...most of it SPAM...it is a personal choice
[06:10] <eric_> I installed clamav but it I don't see any signs that it is running
[06:10] <cafuego> ElitePete: Linux doesn't get viruses.
[06:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: erk, that's what I mean't. Okay, let me try it.
[06:10] <Xenguy> Amaranth: didn't get that factoid
[06:10] <Hydroksyde> who here understands why there are to kinds of people in the word?
[06:10] <ball> cafuego: thanks
[06:10] <cafuego> ElitePete: clcmav is mainly useful for mail servers that distribute mail to windows clients.
[06:10] <Madpilot> lowman62: but were the trojans actually installed, or just attached to emails?
[06:10] <riskk> hey
[06:11] <Hydroksyde> who here understands why there are 10 kinds of people in the word?
[06:11] <sahooe> any help disabling bluetooth please!
[06:11] <navarone> only 10?
[06:11] <lowman62> eric_: you can do a scan manually like this: sudo clamscan /
[06:11] <Amaranth> !nvidia
[06:11] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:11] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: the binary joke? :P
[06:11] <Ralken> Im trying to get my ipod to work under linux and I am using gtkpod but it isnt mounting the pod can anyone help
[06:11] <Hydroksyde> navarone, those who can count in binary and those who can't
[06:11] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: bleh, it says I'm an unregistered user so I can't send anything.
[06:11] <eric_> thanks lowman, I'll try that
[06:11] <intelikey> there are what 4 or 5 known virii that can affect the normal linux system....  hehhe and how many for windows ???????????????????????
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: yeah, saw those -- if that's the clearest HOWTO there is, then I guess it is time for me to dig in deeper :-)
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: tx
[06:12] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   type  /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:12] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I completed the Nero Burning ROM wiz, and it just made a copy of the image on my HDD :s Anyway, I'm mounting the image now using *cough* winblows *cough*
[06:12] <lowman62> eric_: there are other switch options for it as well and I believe it comes with a man page so man clamscan i think it is
[06:12] <Amaranth> Xenguy: You don't have to compile anything, just install a package.
[06:12] <cafuego> intelikey: a system running bind8 or wu-ftp isn't a "normal" linux system ;-)
[06:12] <durt> xenguy: the forums at nvnews.net are useful
[06:12] <navarone> intelikey> that's why i get my mail and do most stuff online in ubuntu now
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: OK, I'll give it another look - I found it confusing when I first looked
[06:12] <Hydroksyde> kaffeend, there is a nero burning rom for linux
[06:12] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: bleh, it says I'm an unregistered user so I can't send anything.
[06:12] <Xenguy> durt: OK, tx
[06:12] <intelikey> normal is reletive
[06:13] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: oops. didn't mean to repeat it. issue resolved.
[06:13] <BoukenPink> Awwr... I was all about to come in and be like "It's fixed!" and then I tried to open xchat and it froze...
[06:13] <Ralken> anyone?
[06:13] <kaffeend> Hydroksyde: I haven't got Linux yet :)
[06:13] <sahooe> anyone? how to disable bluetooth services??
[06:13] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: get it okay?
[06:13] <DuXia> hi. my dns entries keep resetting whenever i reboot.. any idea why?
[06:13] <navarone> sry Ralken have not used any usb devices yet
[06:13] <Hydroksyde> sahooe, rip out the bt adaptor
[06:13] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   checking
[06:14] <Xenguy> Amaranth durt I have no X at the moment BTW (but I guess you inferred that :-)
[06:14] <cafuego> sahooe: 'rcconf' or System -> Admin -> Services
[06:14] <intelikey> Ralken i'm not ignoring you, just don't know anything about ipod.
[06:14] <Amaranth> Xenguy: what errors are you getting?
[06:14] <navarone> sahooe> the bluetooth services may be "bluetooth" in how ubuntu uses serials devices...not neccessarialy wireless
[06:15] <DuXia> hi. my dns entries keep resetting back to none whenever i reboot.. any idea why?
[06:15] <cafuego> Ralken: run gtkpod from a terminal and check for any debug output
[06:15] <Xenguy> Amaranth: basically "nVidia Corp. unknown chipset" and (EE) No devices detected; fatal server error: no screens found"
[06:15] <Hydroksyde> DuXia, DHCP client enabled, maybe?
[06:15] <navarone> sahooe? at least that was the impression I got when reading up opn it
[06:15] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   yep got it  let me browse it a sec
[06:15] <DuXia> how do i disable it?
[06:16] <eric_> I just did a scan and I'm clean, thanks for the help
[06:16] <intelikey> Xenguy trying to setup nv drivers ?
[06:16] <lowman62> eric_: your welcome :)
[06:16] <grajul> can any one tell me how to install a .run i am brand new to linux and iam not sure how to do this
[06:16] <Xenguy> intelikey: yes
[06:17] <grajul> please help me
[06:17] <Hydroksyde> grajul, open it with /bin/sh
[06:17] <sahooe> navarone: sorry, i had to go downstairs
[06:17] <intelikey> ./file.run   maybe grajul
[06:17] <ball> I can't keep up with the traffic in here.  Bye all.
[06:17] <sahooe> I have not bluetooth card installed or anything, so the PC is looking for it
[06:18] <lowman62> ball should move to the right...the slow lane :P```
[06:18] <Hydroksyde> grajul, open up a console, change to the directory, and type "sh foobar.run"
[06:18] <grajul> after /bin/sh should i type in the root to my doc or just is name
[06:18] <sahooe> I use Kubuntu. So I should only remove kbluetooth?
[06:18] <intelikey> someone talk me out of buying the sarge cd's
[06:18] <Amaranth> intelikey: Why would you do that?
[06:18] <DuXia> hydroksyde, how do i disable my dhcp client?
[06:18] <rob1> intelikey, yes: ubuntu cds are free
[06:18] <intelikey> dialup
[06:18] <Hydroksyde> DuXia, i gave no idea
[06:18] <grajul> okay how do you change to a directory
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> cd /foo/bar
[06:19] <grajul>  i am very new i just came from using windows
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> or cd foo
[06:19] <grajul> nevery really used a terminal
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> ok
[06:19] <Ralken> cafuego,  will do
[06:19] <Madpilot> grajul: see Hydroksyde's lines
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> grajul, I'm four months in myself.
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> is there an "open terminal here" option in the file manager?
[06:19] <rob1> intelikey, http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[06:19] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: starting a post w/ someone's nick makes it easier for all :P
[06:19] <fr33mind> Last try..... I need to convert AVI to MPEG.  Somebody knows how to do it?  I'm just tired to google etc...
[06:19] <grajul> okay
[06:19] <intelikey> rob1 but ubuntu does not ship cd's per se  but an install cd and then require net repos..... that's a real problem with a dialup connection over a slowdem
[06:20] <grajul> im in
[06:20] <beardousa> If I want to add a directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, is it best to do it by hand or is there some program I should use?  Also, what is the format?  The man page says dirname=TYPE, but what is TYPE?
[06:20] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: install nautilus-open-terminal
[06:20] <Kyynara> grajul, a really good terminal "tutorial" http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[06:20] <Ralken> cafuego, it says the ipod isnt mounted but im not sure how to accomplish this because its usb
[06:20] <grajul> okay
[06:20] <lowman62> friends don't let friends use dialup :P```
[06:20] <rob1> intelikey, no, the cd has a complete desktop environment on it
[06:20] <intelikey> rob1 secondly by the time i get a ub system installed it's out of date and no longer supported.... hehh
[06:20] <ElitePete> how do i add execute permission to a file in terminal?
[06:21] <rob1> intelikey, you only need to download extras
[06:21] <rob1> if you want them that is
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> lowman62, No, but when that's what their family has at home they don't have much choice.
[06:21] <intelikey> that's what i said.
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> ElitePete, chmod +x file
[06:21] <Hydroksyde> grajul, to put it simply, "cd foobar" will change to the directory foobar, and "ls" will show you a list of files in the current directory
[06:21] <intelikey> then requires inet repos.
[06:21] <lowman62> ElitePete: sudo chmod <whateverpermissions> yourfile
[06:21] <Ralken> cafuego, I tryed this command but didnt get any results "cat: /proc/scsi/scsi"
[06:22] <rob1> intelikey, try asking your local lug for a copy of some of the extra stuff on cd that you want
[06:22] <lowman62> or just chmod if it is in your dir
[06:22] <Ralken> cafuego, tryed it as sudo too
[06:22] <Hydroksyde> grajul, and "cd .." to get to the parent directory
[06:22] <ElitePete> tonyyarusso, thanks
[06:22] <ElitePete> lowman62, thanks
[06:22] <intelikey> local lug would be me and the guy that i put linux on his box for him rob1
[06:22] <Ralken> anyone esle familiar with mounting something conected to a usb port
[06:22] <lowman62> ElitePete: yw :)
[06:22] <rob1> intelikey, thats no good :)
[06:22] <ElitePete> lowman62, this is on FreeBSD shell though so i don't think i can do sudo but the +x worked
[06:23] <lowman62> ya sudo don't work on freeBSD
[06:23] <grajul> okay i ll try that
[06:23] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: any luck mate?
[06:23] <intelikey> rob1 arkansas ozarks hill billy
[06:24] <lowman62> intelikey: i bet your wrong...unless you live like in the boonies :P
[06:24] <lowman62> lol
[06:24] <grajul> when i type iun cd foobar it says no such file or directory
[06:24] <intelikey> do you pay when you bet lowman62 ?
[06:24] <Hydroksyde> I keep getting a "/lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist" error when trying to compile a modem driver
[06:24] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   think so just trying to piece it together
[06:24] <Hydroksyde> what package must I install?
[06:24] <Madpilot> grajul: "foobar" is just a placeholder, it doesn't exist...
[06:24] <rob1> intelikey, how far is little rock from you?
[06:24] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok look at this post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6085
[06:25] <grajul> o stupid me
[06:25] <intelikey> hour and an half
[06:25] <Hydroksyde> grajul, the words foo and bar are often used that way
[06:25] <rob1> intelikey, there is a lug there
[06:25] <lowman62> i like fubar myself...e.g. my jumpdrive is fubar..and it is :)
[06:26] <grajul> i got it to show names of files after i typed in ls then what do i do to install them
[06:26] <Hydroksyde> fubar is different to foobar
[06:26] <lowman62> *fling*
[06:26] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   under section "screen"  change 24 to 16   i always use lower settings when trouble shooting
[06:26] <lowman62> ya i know that...I have a million manuals that make reference to foobar...foo and bar
[06:26] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: going to take a sec - need to apt-get links
[06:26] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   then add  the exact subsection "display"  you see in that post
[06:27] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    wait   i can send  you the text
[06:27] <grajul> it says my files but how do i tell them install
[06:27] <intelikey> one of them is a real prick too rob1,  keeps me baned from several networks just cause he is from same state and uses same network to connect    spammer/hacker   so his ip gets banned and that shuts me out also.
[06:27] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: don't worry, i'm there.
[06:27] <rob1> intelikey, heh
[06:28] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: what should i do with this?
[06:28] <grajul> i got the terminal to say my files in ls but how do i install them now
[06:28] <rob1> intelikey, thats pretty bad for a lug
[06:28] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ill edit your old conf and send it back   ill mark my line changes  with >>>>   then you add them
[06:28] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   its only like 5 lines
[06:28] <lowman62> intelikey: i callem scriptkiddies...hacker is another breed
[06:28] <kaffeend> Ah, having some trouble here with mounting the Ubuntu image to cd... Nero wants to rename it, I let it, and then it hands it over to Windows to do the actual burning.
[06:29] <grajul> hydroksyde you still there
[06:29] <intelikey> lowman62 he's not just a scriptkiddy   but yeah
[06:29] <lowman62> kaffeend: you are burning it as an image correct?
[06:29] <Amaranth> !nero
[06:29] <ubotu> Amaranth: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <kaffeend> this link says to make the image as a Data CD: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[06:29] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:30] <kaffeend> lowman62: obviously not :)
[06:30] <rob1> intelikey, a set of debian cds might be more useful for you
[06:30] <grajul> can any one help me install a .run
[06:30] <Amaranth> kaffeend: follow it, i haven't used nero in about a year
[06:30] <grajul> im very new
[06:30] <rob1> intelikey, be aware that most of debain becomes dated and needs updates frequently
[06:31] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a script (on freebsd) would look like to load multiple programs in folder say /home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc?
[06:31] <lowman62> intelikey: a 13 year old punk messed up my network once..although he called himself a hacker...hackers don't damage things...nor do they want on your personal computer
[06:31] <grajul> hello
[06:31] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I did follow it - and was followed by windows telling me I have files waiting to be written to CD
[06:31] <Lukian> I have no sound from flash movies/
[06:31] <Lukian> any ideas?
[06:31] <grajul> can any one help me
[06:31] <Amaranth> kaffeend: err, nero shouldn't "hand off" anything to windows
[06:31] <Amaranth> !ask
[06:31] <kaffeend> so I click ok and it says to insert a disk
[06:31] <intelikey> that was the conclusion i came to rob1.   and i'm one of the type that says 'if it aint broke don't upgrade it.'
[06:32] <Polygon> hello, could someone assist me with a ubuntu installation?
[06:32] <intelikey> lowman62 yes i know.
[06:32] <Amaranth> Ok, who the hell made !ask too long to go in channel?
[06:32] <rob1> intelikey, I used to be on dialup myself, a set of debian cds kept me sane
[06:32] <lowman62> i'm with intelikey on that one...why fix that which is not broken
[06:32] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I realise that Nero should be doing the burning - that's why I'm so confuzzled
[06:32] <Hydroksyde> grajul
[06:32] <rob1> intelikey, although I could take my box into my local lug and update it via a local networked mirror
[06:33] <Hydroksyde> find it in the console
[06:33] <Polygon> anyone?
[06:33] <Hydroksyde> then type "sudo sh foobar.run"
[06:33] <Amaranth> Polygon: What do you need help with?
[06:33] <Devist8> does anyone have any experience with upgrading to ubuntu in colinux
[06:33] <rob1> intelikey, there is a ubuntu dvd
[06:33] <intelikey> rob1 it seems that rather than talking me out of it, you are kinda with me on it....  ;/
[06:33] <rob1> heh yeah
[06:33] <Amaranth> Devist8: I bet only about 10 people in the world have done that.
[06:33] <Polygon> im at the step where i need to format my hard drive
[06:33] <Amaranth> Devist8: Or less. :)
[06:33] <Devist8> im getting apt-get errors
[06:33] <Devist8> lots of em
[06:34] <Polygon> and i cant figure out how to change the partitons to what i want
[06:34] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a script (on freebsd) would look like to load multiple programs in folder say /home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc?
[06:34] <grajul> can any walk me through installing a .run document i am very new and dont know what to do
[06:34] <mahangu> grajul, double click it
[06:34] <Devist8> so basicly i should give up on it?
[06:35] <lowman62> ElitePete: the folder that contains the files you want to move ..is there anything in there you do not want to moved or copied?
[06:35] <eek-0> Who's on Ubuntu baby!! YEA!!
[06:35] <grajul> okay it comes up with all this script
[06:35] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    you there?
[06:35] <grajul> mahangu, it looks like all this script
[06:35] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, I've done that.
[06:35] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: yep.
[06:36] <Knowerrors> Any midi users on here, Im using timidity with the freepats, and most plays fine, but some instruments are missing, anybody can help?
[06:36] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   done what?
[06:36] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I added the lines, as requested.
[06:36] <ElitePete> lowman62, i just want to run the programs
[06:36] <intelikey> ElitePete    LIST='/home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc' ;for this in $LIST ;do if $THIS ;then echo '[ok] ' ;else echo "$this [error] " ;exit 1 ;fi ;done
[06:36] <lowman62> oh okay i misunderstood you sorry about that ElitePete :P``
[06:36] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: the lines that you pastebin'd onto my xorg.conf...
[06:37] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok  comment out the original  24 and 16  section you added
[06:37] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: ... comment out what I just added?
[06:37] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    ohhh   it said it timed out
[06:37] <ElitePete> lowman62, no problem
[06:38] <Polygon> amaranth: so can you help me?
[06:38] <intelikey> ElitePete you can modify that and use it ^
[06:38] <kaffeend> okay - windows is adding the data to the CD image
[06:38] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  lol     no  you added a new 16 section   comment the old one  farther down out  so they dont get mixedup
[06:38] <ElitePete> intelikey, what do i save that as
[06:38] <intelikey> a file ?
[06:38] <ElitePete> or just paste that?
[06:38] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: you've lost me.
[06:38] <Amaranth> Polygon: What do you want to do?
[06:38] <Amaranth> Polygon: The guided partitioner should have a choice to resize the windows partition and make an ubuntu one
[06:39] <Amaranth> Polygon: or wipe the HD and install just ubuntu
[06:39] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    accept this file and look at what i commented out
[06:39] <Amaranth> Polygon: generally if you need something beyond that you know how to do it :)
[06:39] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: How do I accept it?
[06:39] <rob1> intelikey, you could get someone to dl one of the ubuntu dvd images via bittorrent from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ and mail it to you
[06:39] <Polygon> im at the section where its going to wipe the drive, and create the partitions
[06:39] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ill pastebin it
[06:39] <rob1> intelikey, I'm not sure if a linux shop sells them
[06:39] <lowman62> ElitePete you can save it as a .sh but make sure you put the path to sh at the top of it like !#/bin/sh <--if that is where it exists
[06:40] <Polygon> i want to make it so root as 10 gigs, swap has 1 gig and /home everything else
[06:40] <Amaranth> intelikey: Yeah, I'm sure you can find someone. Are you in the US?
[06:40] <intelikey> yes ElitePete you could start with a id line    #!/bin/bash            and put that below it.  only modify the LIST veriables   and  chmod 750 <filename>
[06:40] <ElitePete> intelikey, i don't have admin access this is a shell
[06:40] <Amaranth> Polygon: ok, so delete whatever partitions are they, tell it to make a new one, and it'll ask for the size
[06:40] <kaffeend> sudo it pete
[06:40] <Polygon> but when i delete the partions already there  and i edit lets say the root one
[06:40] <Amaranth> err, are there
[06:40] <Polygon> and i say 10 gigs
[06:40] <lowman62> ElitePete you should be able to su to root access
[06:40] <Polygon> then it creates it
[06:40] <intelikey> ElitePete and ?
[06:41] <Polygon> but then it says it has like 28.8 unusable
[06:41] <Amaranth> Polygon: odd
[06:41] <Amaranth> any reason you need /home on a seperate partition?
[06:41] <ElitePete> intelikey, i have the files in /home/Hammer/omen/1 - 8
[06:41] <ElitePete> and all the files are called fastbot
[06:41] <ElitePete> i just need a script to run them all.
[06:41] <Polygon> i dunno thats what my friend who has linux suggested
[06:42] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6105   my changed/added lines are >>>>    commented out #
[06:42] <Polygon> here is what it says: LVM VG Ubuntu, LV Root - 38.2 GB unknown
[06:42] <Polygon> and then under that
[06:43] <Polygon> #1 38.2 GB (smiley face) ext3  /
[06:43] <eek-0> who loves me?
[06:43] <eek-0> i love me
[06:43] <intelikey> k elitepete then change the variables  LIST="`ls -1 /home/Hammer/omen/[1-8] `"
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: You only need a seperate /home if you plan on reinstalling ubuntu and want to keep all your settings.
[06:43] <intelikey> and badabing..
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: Most people don't need it.
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: i'd just let the guided partitioner set things up for you.
[06:44] <lowman62> kplaylist rocks :)
[06:44] <Polygon> ok
[06:44] <Polygon> but still, how do i
[06:44] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, done.
[06:44] <Polygon> wait
[06:44] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try it
[06:44] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Same error.
[06:44] <eek-0> how can i make a shell for a dude?
[06:45] <Polygon> ok
[06:45] <Polygon> my friend says thats fine
[06:45] <Polygon> but,
[06:45] <Polygon> at defualt
[06:45] <Polygon> swap is 1.6 gb
[06:45] <Polygon> i want it to be 1 gb
[06:45] <lowman62> eek-0: create a new user profile?
[06:45] <eek-0> umm
[06:45] <Polygon> but when i resize it, it says 1 gb swap and everything, then .6 unusable
[06:45] <eek-0> ima have to foward some ports and whatnot, aren't i?
[06:46] <that_weasel> is there a way to set a timeout value with ubuntu's default DHCP setup?
[06:46] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: :(
[06:46] <lowman62> eek-0: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:46] <Polygon> is there any way i can make it so that swap is 1 gig and that .6 unusable go to root?
[06:46] <eek-0> iono
[06:46] <intelikey> ElitePete even   LIST="`ls -1 /home/Hammer/omen/[1-8] *fastbot*`"    <--- if you need to be specific.   you could even add the dirs as path in the script if needed    line 3 like this  PATH="$PATH:/home/Hammer/omen/*/"
[06:46] <navarone> Polygon probably unallocatred space after the resize...take up unallocated by another partition in gparted maybe
[06:47] <lowman62> eek-0: are you trying to allow access from a remote computer ...say a friend or something?
[06:47] <that_weasel> Polygon: do you have enough space to save everything on the actual root partition to somewhere else?
[06:47] <Jared> wha tis the package name for debhelper
[06:47] <intelikey> and don't worry about the path change it only affects the script and the subprocesses  not the shell it's self
[06:47] <eek-0> lowman62, yes
[06:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   not done yet
[06:47] <Polygon> umi dont get what you mean
[06:47] <ElitePete> intelikey, i appreciate the help but i'm confused... how do i do this exactly.?
[06:48] <Jared> Does anyone know the package name for debhelper
[06:48] <Polygon> im installing this on one hard drive
[06:48] <intelikey> some how i knew that was comming..... :)
[06:48] <lowman62> eek-0: okay create another user profile on your system then you will want to install ssh client and dameon and allow him shell access
[06:48] <eek-0> sshd?
[06:49] <lowman62> yes sshd
[06:49] <intelikey> ElitePete give me an exact file name that you need to exec and i'll build it for you, and you can modify it as you like.
[06:49] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   add these 2 lines   under section "Monitor" right under the DPMS line   HorizSync       30-80    and  VertRefresh        40-120
[06:49] <eek-0> okie
[06:49] <eek-0> apt-get install sshd?
[06:49] <intelikey> full path ^
[06:49] <ElitePete> intelikey, path is home/Hammer/omen/1 to 8 the app is ./fastbot
[06:49] <lowman62> eek-0: what operating system does your friend use? windows?
[06:50] <eek-0> i dont know
[06:50] <eek-0> its just for anyone
[06:50] <lowman62> yes sudo apt-get sshd
[06:50] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   i lowerd the numbers   on purpose so we dont cause extra problems
[06:50] <intelikey> ElitePete so /home/Hammer/omen/1/fastbot   <--- is that correct ?
[06:50] <intelikey> for file one ?
[06:50] <eek-0> umm
[06:50] <ElitePete> intelikey, fastbot is an app.
[06:50] <eek-0> can this allow someone to connect to my computer and get root?
[06:50] <ElitePete> intelikey, but yes it is.
[06:50] <Polygon> is there any way i can install swap at the end of the free space and have the .6 unusable go to root?
[06:51] <intelikey> yes ok give me a sec
[06:51] <Polygon> cause even if i do that, it still says "unusable"
[06:51] <lowman62> eek-0 I use sshd and carry a copy of putty around with me so I can log into my machine whereever I am...tis cool
[06:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay done.
[06:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    try it
[06:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Same problem.
[06:51] <lowman62> yes it can if you advertise open ports ;)
[06:51] <Zen> yo
[06:51] <eek-0> :(
[06:51] <eek-0> i shalln't
[06:51] <eek-0> then
[06:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    for giggles  can you try a reboot
[06:51] <eek-0> :))))#)#)#)
[06:52] <Zen> so after my install of breezy died, I reinstalled the 32-bit version
[06:52] <lowman62> eek-0: you have a router?
[06:52] <eek-0> nope
[06:52] <eek-0> umm
[06:52] <Zen> it's just as fast and stuff actually works
[06:52] <eek-0> what kind of FTP client could i use on linux?
[06:52] <Zen> I guess that linux is just more snappy than XP :)
[06:52] <lowman62> ftpd
[06:52] <Zen> eek-0: I use gftp
[06:52] <Polygon> anyone?
[06:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I suppose so...
[06:52] <lowman62> or do you mean ftp client?
[06:53] <Zen> client he said
[06:53] <Zen> eek-0: GFTP works great
[06:53] <eek-0> okay
[06:53] <lowman62> gftp is good for gui...nsftp is good for CLI
[06:54] <pato> Hi!!! i need kazaa.. apollon is good? i have edubuntu.
[06:54] <Polygon> can anyone help me install ubuntu? i thin amaranth dissapeared
[06:54] <glick> excuse me
[06:54] <eek-0> where do i get gftp?
[06:54] <glick> how come when i try to open a torrent file with bittorrent
[06:54] <Zen> I can't get the ATI driver installer to spit out a distro specific package--the error is in the pastebin
[06:54] <glick> i get the following error
[06:54] <intelikey> ElitePete try that.
[06:55] <lowman62> eek-0: sudo apt-get gftp
[06:55] <intelikey> there are houndreds of ways to ger to rome
[06:55] <glick> Problem connecting to tracker: urlopen(-2, 'Name or service not known')
[06:55] <Zen> does the fglrx package in synaptic have the 3D support?
[06:55] <ElitePete> intelikey,  ok thanks, i have a problem with i kill those fastbot proces's from ssh they restart automatically what can i do abotu that so i can try your script
[06:55] <intelikey> all roads lead to rome
[06:55] <eek-0> nope
[06:55] <eek-0> isn't there
[06:55] <Polygon> anyone...
[06:55] <lowman62> eek-0: you running breezy?
[06:56] <intelikey> killall fastbot
[06:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Hey, it worked :D
[06:56] <eek-0> what the hell is breezy
[06:56] <Zen> Ubuntu 5.10 is breezy
[06:56] <lowman62> heh...nevermind
[06:56] <lowman62> :P
[06:56] <Zen> each release has codenames
[06:56] <eek-0> i dont know
[06:56] <eek-0> what version
[06:56] <eek-0> it is
[06:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Thank you so much!
[06:56] <eek-0> :)
[06:56] <Zen> 5.04 is Hoary for example
[06:56] <intelikey> maybe   and you could use top  or  ps to see what is calling them ElitePete
[06:56] <Zen> I think
[06:56] <eek-0> type
[06:56] <ElitePete> ok intelikey,
[06:56] <lowman62> brb smoke break :P
[06:56] <eek-0> ./ctcp version eek-0
[06:57] <ElitePete> 95433  pf- S      0:00.01 ./fastbot
[06:57] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    the reboot worked?
[06:57] <Polygon> can anyone help me here?
[06:57] <agt_> !fonts
[06:57] <ubotu> fonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it did! :D
[06:57] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    ok now you have the nex few weeks to fine tune your X using  the ati driver
[06:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, is there anything else I should do to it?
[06:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, eh?
[06:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   save a copy of the "forced" settings we entered
[06:58] <intelikey> ps -A fx       ElitePete
[06:58] <Polygon> i need assitance to install ubunto
[06:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, right?
[06:58] <Polygon> ubuntu**
[06:58] <ElitePete> intelikey, whats $JOE
[06:58] <glick> does anyone know what that error means?>
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I got the suspend script to remove the HSF modem driver module in preparation, but it would be better if I could nicely hang up the connection before that.  What sort of command would end a wvdial session (doing the same as Ctrl-C in it)?
[06:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   all we did was force your hardware to use basic settings
[06:59] <Polygon> glick: means your torrent cant connect to the tracker so it cant start downloading,
[06:59] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, so it's not perfect is what you're saying?
[06:59] <intelikey> a veriable  set in the script.    i could have used  'i'  or 'X'  or any name for it....
[06:59] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   vesa is basic  your 3d stuff will stink        want to try the ati driver again
[06:59] <ElitePete> intelikey, 100  v0  Is+    0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0
[07:00] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I seem to recall something called firegl. If I installed this would my problems be over?
[07:00] <glick> damn
[07:00] <Polygon> can anyone help me try to install ubuntu? i need assitance with partitioning my hd
[07:00] <intelikey> that's  the parent process running fastbot/s    ?
[07:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   change the vesa back to "rs480"   i think thats what you had before?
[07:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, my driver field read, simply, "ati" before.
[07:01] <glick> Polygon, just let ubuntu partitioin it for you
[07:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try it   you can always  put the vesa back if it fails
[07:01] <Polygon> i need to edit it though
[07:01] <Polygon> its wanting to make my swap file 2 gigs
[07:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, try setting it to "ati" or "rs480" ?
[07:01] <Polygon> and i dont want that
[07:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ati
[07:01] <Polygon> but if i change it it makes the left over "unusabler"
[07:02] <ElitePete> intelikey, i guess.
[07:02] <glick> damn my gtk-gnutella wont connect to anything either
[07:02] <Polygon> **unusable
[07:02] <glick> what the hell
[07:02] <Polygon> so im wondering how to make it so that there is no unusable
[07:02] <intelikey> ElitePete i dought you want to kill  ttyv0  but maybe the first subprocess that is parent to fastbot
[07:02] <intelikey> doubt even
[07:03] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay, I'll restart now...
[07:04] <Jared> does anyone know that package name for debhelper
[07:04] <pashaw> Polygon, are you forcing the 4th partition into primary
[07:04] <eek-0> so umm
[07:04] <eek-0> wget http://gftp.seul.org/gftp-2.0.18.tar.gz
[07:04] <intelikey> Jared apt-cache search debhelper
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> What command would end a wvdial session?  (Or any session that it can find running rather.)
[07:05] <Jared> i didn't find it but it says i need it to install the java-package
[07:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso killall wvdial
[07:05] <glick> why wont gtk-gnutella connect to any nodes?
[07:05] <Polygon> i dont think so
[07:05] <Polygon> all i really want to change is
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Thanks.
[07:05] <intelikey> or control C in the controling term
[07:05] <Polygon> the swap file partiton to 1 gig
[07:05] <HeartBT> I would like to install xubuntu onto a drive that has a working suse on it.  any advice before I dig in?
[07:05] <Polygon> but when i do resize it , the rest of the space is unusable
[07:06] <eek-0> gah
[07:06] <intelikey> tonyyarusso if you started it with just the command  wvdial [agrs optional]     then  ^C
[07:06] <eek-0> whats the tar command? tar zxvf filename?
[07:06] <pashaw> HeartBT, as a dual boot   or erasing the Suse
[07:06] <HeartBT> btw, I'd like to save the suse file sys.  at least for a bit.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I want to run the killer separately from an unrelated script.
[07:06] <HeartBT> yeah.
[07:06] <intelikey> yes killall
[07:06] <glick> does anyone know why gtk wont connect to anything?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, (For certain situations.)
[07:07] <pashaw> HeartBT,   nope  should work fine
[07:07] <lowman> hmm
[07:07] <HeartBT> pashaw, now when I get the files out of the suse home dir, and want to eleiminate the suse filesys, what then?
[07:07] <Polygon> pashaw: how do i make it so i can resize the swap without the left over space being unusable?
[07:08] <lowman> time to move back to the desktop...laterz :P```
[07:08] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, unfortunately I had to set it back to vesa as ati didn't work...
[07:08] <HeartBT> wow, the man in demand.
[07:08] <pashaw> HeartBT,   lots of options    delete and remake the partitions   or resize
[07:09] <navarone> Polygon...in my experience in gparted you can only take up unallocated space if it is to the right of the other partition in the gparted gui...
[07:09] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, where to from here?
[07:09] <Polygon> im in the installation of ubuntu right now
[07:09] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i wrote my own dialup script as a frontend for wvdial.   and yes killall wvdial is the prefered method from a script.      if you just kill the wvdial pid it does not disconnect  i,e, the pppd stays active.   killall will stop the pppd process that wvdial called also thus terminating the connection.
[07:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   bummer   where now you have a project   learn a your way around the poor ati support
[07:09] <navarone> oh you're installing...lol
[07:09] <Polygon> yeah
[07:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   omg  typing while cat jumped on me
[07:09] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I see...
[07:10] <HeartBT> pashaw, no forseen problems?  great.  I'll start the dl.
[07:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, heheheh
[07:10] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    lost my train of thought
[07:10] <Polygon> so i dont see why root can go all the way up to 39 or whatever and then swap can take up the last gig
[07:10] <navarone> Polygon...can't hjelp you there I let auto partitioner work its magic
[07:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Well, thank you for all your help - I am most sincerely gratified.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Good to know.  Could I get a copy of your script perhaps?
[07:10] <intelikey> sure.
[07:10] <ben__> hello all
[07:10] <HeartBT> ArabianMystic, I found ATI so hard to deal with in linux, I replaced all my ATI cards but one.  Just to give an idea how frustrating they can be.
[07:10] <pashaw> Polygon,    how many partitions are on that drive     before you mess with resizing the swap
[07:11] <ben__> i just started using ubuntu last night
[07:11] <ben__> im very impressed so far
[07:11] <ben__> kudos to linux
[07:11] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   np  thats happen to me before   glad i could help
[07:11] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, ;)
[07:11] <Polygon> ok so far there is just root, (38.2) and swap (1.6)
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Would pastebin work for you for that?
[07:11] <Zen> I seem to be having a little trouble getting the fglrx driver working--keeps showing MESA
[07:11] <HeartBT> ben__, you new to linux altogether?
[07:11] <pashaw> Polygon,    no windows partitions?  only 2
[07:11] <navarone> ben__,  how was it to get this far...? Some peoples experience varies..mostly config issues in my experience
[07:12] <ben__> yep
[07:12] <Polygon> there is also "primary" up top, root and swap are part of "logical"
[07:12] <Polygon> this is a seprate hard drive
[07:12] <Polygon> from my windows OS
[07:12] <ben__> oh and it was exceedingly easy
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Uh-oh.  Clamscan is beeping at me to indicate it's finding stuff...
[07:12] <pashaw> Polygon,   on the drive your messing with    your using the entire thing for Ubuntu
[07:12] <navarone> ben__, "free" help too...:)
[07:12] <Polygon> ya
[07:12] <ben__> i was worried about seriously screwing up my windows partition, but it worked like a charm
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Well that's kind of slick.
[07:12] <pashaw> Polygon,   what size is it
[07:13] <HeartBT> ben__, My girlfriend has finally decided to give linux a wing once I showed her unbuntu, dragged her feet for two years.  15 minutes and I was formatting an XP drive.
[07:13] <war-totem> anyone ever come across a script or prog that can change your desktop at random or on reboots?
[07:13] <Polygon> the one for ubuntu is 40 gigs
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, There is such a thing, I know that much.
[07:13] <Zen> need help installing ati 3d support
[07:13] <aeon17x> !ati
[07:13] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:13] <navarone> ben_...you should amke a boot disk in case...in terminal go grub-install fd0  < -- and have floppy in drive. Will come in useful if things go pearshaped
[07:14] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: would you be able to point me in a direction?
[07:15] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i run that as root but you can do anything you like with it.... that's what open sourse is all about... :)
[07:15] <ben__> for me an especially cool thing is that it automatically connects me to the net as soon as my desktop is up (i still am stuck with dialup)
[07:15] <Fwtidic> q tal
[07:15] <pashaw> Polygon,   40G?    why are you worried about a 2G swap that leaves 38G for your linux toys
[07:15] <Zen> ubotu: that would be relevent, but my problem is abnormal
[07:15] <Zen> I don't need help installing it, I've done it probably a dozen times
[07:15] <Zen> just this time it isn't working
[07:15] <HeartBT> war-totem, don't know if it's exactly what you were looking for, or if your running gnome or not, but I just was looking at this.  http://swik.net/GNOME/GNOME+Hacks
[07:15] <intelikey> also it logs to /var/log/wvdial_log
[07:15] <navarone> ben__, or get a live cd or rescue cd...it saved my butt a few times so far...:)
[07:15] <navarone> ben__, I feel your pain...
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I'll try; I'll get back to you.
[07:15] <navarone> I've only been on dsl for about three years...before that 56k...:(
[07:15] <eek-0> umm
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Precisely.
[07:15] <eek-0> son of a bitch
[07:15] <eek-0> can't use gftp
[07:15] <intelikey> you might like that one better tonyyarusso
[07:15] <ben__> i have to say that ubuntu seems to be the friendliest free linux out there (Linspire looks pretty decent, but its not free)
[07:15] <eek-0> need to update glib
[07:16] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Zen
[07:16] <groogs_> anyone have any luck getting X11 to use a widescreen lcd?
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> How come?  (What's different?)
[07:16] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:16] <intelikey> look inside them and see.
[07:16] <Polygon> good point
[07:16] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: ill let you know if i find anything
[07:17] <niffe> where does Xserver keep error logs?
[07:17] <Polygon> i  guess ill just leave it the way it is
[07:17] <Zen> ubotu: On step 2--after following the instructions what happens is that it says it can't find the module when I do "depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx"
[07:17] <ubotu> Zen: that's too long
[07:17] <pashaw> Polygon,  if your worried about maximum space you dont want my advice anyway as id break off part of that drive for a seperate /home
[07:17] <Xkiddiegrinders> is there a way I can start up into a terminal instead of the GUI?
[07:17] <zblach> hey, can anyone help me through the new user creation process?
[07:17] <groogs_> niffe: /var/log
[07:17] <Polygon> well i got part of my 120 gig hard drive for most of my files
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I've got something.  I just bought a book called Linux Desktop Hacks, and that's one of them.
[07:17] <Polygon> so space isnt a issue
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Shall I pm it to you?
[07:18] <pashaw> Polygon,   all my systems home and work servers use 1.4G or more swaps      bad things happen if a swap fills
[07:18] <intelikey> tonyyarusso you do know that i use cli mostly, and all my scripts are geared to console mode...   if that makes any differance.    they should work in a terminal just as well.  but that is not the intended use.
[07:18] <jean> anyone play anything having to do with nethack before?
[07:18] <Polygon> well its like 1.6 now
[07:19] <Polygon> plus i got 512 mb of ram
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I do both.
[07:19] <Polygon> thinkthat is enough?
[07:19] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yes please
[07:19] <pashaw> Polygon,   yep  good start  IMHO
[07:19] <mrkoje> jean,  I haven't heard anyone talk about nethack forever
[07:19] <durt> nice quit message
[07:19] <Polygon> ok ill just leave it then
[07:19] <mrkoje> jean,  last time I heard anything about it was in the linux journal
[07:20] <Polygon> thanks for your help, ill come back if i have any other questions
[07:20] <jessica_> is there a certain way to install java?
[07:20] <niffe> jessica_: apt-get install java
[07:20] <pashaw> nethack  i know lots of people  that host and play it
[07:20] <niffe> maybe...
[07:21] <intelikey> so now everybody pings tonyyarusso for announcing that.......
[07:21] <jessica_> wheres that at?
[07:21] <intelikey> !jre
[07:21] <ubotu> Not a clue, intelikey
[07:22] <intelikey> !java
[07:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:22] <jessica_> yeah that didnt help me at all that wiki thing
[07:22] <intelikey> !javadeb
[07:22] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:22] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: did you pm me? im on irssi and am not sure how to handle pms
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Yeah, I tried.
[07:22] <saadat> Hello
[07:22] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: oh, can you just give a link here?
[07:23] <intelikey> war-totem [alt] #
[07:23] <war-totem> intelikey: then i guess i didnt get it
[07:23] <saadat> Does anyone have problem accessing http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BreezyCust
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I'm not sure how irssi works either.
[07:23] <intelikey> where # is the window that has the message.
[07:23] <heather> wtf
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, So would that be my nick for this?
[07:23] <Nikusan> samba related question.. smb:/// no longer shows the workgroup that all of my machines are on (xp & ubuntu), but if I use smb://computer_name it connects to the shares fine. I'm not sure what's changed. Any ideas?
[07:23] <heather> how does this shit work?
[07:24] <grajul> hi im trying to install doom 3 demo but every where i try to install it say i do not have permitions to install it there
[07:24] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: try it again
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> heather, What exactly are you referring to?
[07:24] <heather> limewire it
[07:24] <heather> IRC
[07:24] <grajul> can any one please help me
[07:24] <heather> in general
[07:24] <intelikey> tonyyarusso ?   not sure what you are asking ?
[07:24] <sklav> ! ubotu install flash
[07:24] <ubotu> sklav: No idea
[07:24] <sklav> ! ubotu install nvidia
[07:24] <heather> okay i have linux on my mac.
[07:24] <ubotu> sklav: No idea
[07:25] <heather> i just found IRC
[07:25] <sklav> ! ubotu  flash
[07:25] <ubotu> sklav: Syntax error in line 1
[07:25] <heather> and so im here
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> !irc
[07:25] <ubotu> irc is probably info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[07:25] <heather> but so how does it work?
[07:25] <sklav> hey how do i speak to ubotu
[07:25] <sklav> i want to ask a simple question like proper way to install flash
[07:25] <Kaiser_Away> !tell sklav about ubotu
[07:25] <Kaiser_Away> !tell sklav about flash
[07:25] <grajul> i cant install doom 3 because it say i do not have the permitions can any please help me im brand new to this
[07:26] <pashaw> heather,   here people ask questions about Ubuntu problems and we try to help
[07:26] <heather> i see
[07:26] <heather> lol
[07:26] <grajul> im installing it on to ubuntu
[07:26] <heather> alright alright
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> heather, Check the wiki link from ubotu, and I'll send you two more for commands.  Beyond that, watch and learn I guess.
[07:26] <saadat> guys first question?? is Breezy = 5.10
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Or not.
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Did you see the second try?
[07:27] <saadat> 2 quustion apt-get update gives my GPG errors.....
[07:27] <pashaw> !breezy
[07:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:27] <jessica_> thought linux was supposed to be easy lol
[07:27] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: no
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Hrm.
[07:28] <intelikey> jessica_ it is to those that have spent one third the time on it that you have on windows.  :)
[07:28] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: can you not just post the link here
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone walk war-totem through receiving pms with irssi?
[07:28] <jessica_> actually i dont use windows
[07:28] <jessica_> used mac half my life
[07:28] <HeartBT> tonyyarusso, is this a script your sending?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, There is no link.  It's in a book.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> HeartBT, No, I was going to copy two pages out of a book.
[07:29] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: oh
[07:29] <HeartBT> war-totem, is this for gnome?
[07:29] <saadat> therea a time & place for windows, theres a time 7 place for linux and theres a time & place for the best production OS I have ever used (PalmOS)... too bad it is being shelved
[07:29] <war-totem> HeartBT: yes
[07:29] <grajul> does any one no how do change my permitions so i can install stuff on to my hard drive
[07:29] <HeartBT> war-totem, look here and see if this fits the bill. http://swik.net/GNOME/GNOME+Hacks/Wallpaper+Randomizer/je2
[07:29] <war-totem> HeartBT: will do
[07:30] <saadat> I hate GPG errors can't get rid of them when I run apt-get update????
[07:30] <sklav> migrated all my systems to Ubuntu
[07:30] <Nikusan> y
[07:30] <sklav> ;)
[07:30] <intelikey> on the default ub install of irssi-text  a /msg will cause an alert to appear in the blue strip with a number in it indicating that you have new info in window <that number>   hold down the  alt key and press the number  to view it.   and  alt 1 or 2  is usually the window you just left....
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> jessica_, I just picked up Ubuntu four months ago, and it's reasonably easy.  I could do everything I did in Windows great; it's when I try to play with other cool stuff that it gets a little confusing.
[07:30] <intelikey> war-totem ^
[07:31] <grajul> can any one help me
[07:31] <saadat> no expert here on solving GPG erors
[07:31] <pashaw> !anyone
[07:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[07:31] <war-totem> intelikey: yours definitely did that ,but tonyyarusso 's didnt
[07:31] <pashaw> grajul,    what are you installing
[07:32] <intelikey> grajul yes prepend    sudo   to the install command   and when prompted  give your password.
[07:32] <grajul> doom 3 but it says i have no permitions to install it
[07:32] <war-totem> HeartBT: i think that script is perfect, thanks a lot m8
[07:32] <saadat> Okay - I run apt-get update and get GPG errors????? Why should I get GPG errors in the first place???
[07:32] <grajul> im new to this so what is prepending sudo
[07:32] <pashaw> grajul,     type  sudo  infront of
[07:32] <sklav> wiki nees to be updated
[07:33] <intelikey> tonyyarusso you regestered ?     you cant pm without reg.
[07:33] <sklav> gstreamer-plugins-multiverse doesnt exists anymore
[07:33] <HeartBT> war-totem, np.
[07:33] <grajul> in a new konsole window or the one im installing it in
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> war-totem & intelikey: Yep, I'm a moron.  Registered, but not identified.
[07:33] <intelikey> tonyyarusso what client ?
[07:33] <pashaw> grajul,   infront of the install command/script     type   sudo <whatever>
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> There's a way to make it auto-identify, isn't there?
[07:34] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: hehe no problem, im a moron tood :P
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, XChat.  Fixed it now.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, How's that?
[07:35] <intelikey> you can add the idintify line to that    edit the server at startup and add  /msg nickserv identify <passwd>    to the command to exec on connect line.
[07:35] <intelikey> tonyyarusso ^
[07:35] <grajul> do you want me to do this in a new shell because i cant type any thing in the one that im installing doom 3 with because it is asking me to enter the installation path
[07:35] <grajul> pashaw:do you want me to do this in a new shell because i cant type any thing in the one that im installing doom 3 with because it is asking me to enter the installation path
[07:35] <pashaw> grajul,   i would cancel that and start over
[07:36] <grajul> okay
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Not sure how to edit the server.
[07:36] <intelikey> the edit button
[07:36] <blanky> !java
[07:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:36] <blanky> that's right B****
[07:36] <grajul> so i type in sudo infront of what
[07:36] <borisattva> of the command
[07:36] <pashaw> grajul,   yes
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, It's nice when it's that obvious.  I just can't see it now, since that window's not up.
[07:37] <borisattva> are non ubunutu specific questions allowed as well? rhythmbox for example
[07:38] <grajul> pashaw: what is the command line as i said im new to this
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> borisattva, Generally.  You might get referred to another channel for some.
[07:38] <intelikey> tonyyarusso  unless you have selected 'no server list on startup'  then the first window that opens when you start xchat,  select the freenode server and hit the edit button  :)
[07:38] <pashaw> grajul,   how did you start the install when it failed?
[07:38] <blanky> !why is automatix crap
[07:38] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, blanky
[07:38] <blanky> !automatix
[07:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is "messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement" -a !MOTU on automatix
[07:39] <joelbryan> hi, is there a programming talk in Ubuntu IRC?
[07:39] <grajul> with chmod 500 then sudo
[07:39] <blanky> !MOTU
[07:39] <ubotu> motu is, like, totally, the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Did my message ever go through to you?
[07:39] <mondi> need help .... do any of you guys know a site where I could get some info on how to customize openbox for ubuntu?
[07:39] <intelikey> tonyyarusso  you can open that window not in the [file]  / server list      i think
[07:39] <intelikey> s/not/now/
[07:39] <grajul> pashaw: with chmod 500 then sudo
[07:39] <HeartBT> can I ask about additional repositories for the codec stuff without being OT or in violation?
[07:39] <blanky> is there an alternative to automatix?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Yep, there it is.
[07:39] <blanky> that isnt 'crap' ?
[07:39] <blanky> is automatix really bad?
[07:40] <saadat> where can I find manual install processes for automatix
[07:40] <eek-0> HELP HELP HELP] 
[07:40] <mrkoje> saadat,  don't use automatix... use easyubuntu
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> How long should it take to clamscan a 15G drive?
[07:40] <intelikey> aint GUI the greatest thing.......  console user tells gui user things on his gui......
[07:40] <eek-0> im on ubuntu..i go the the file browser..its showing that folders are locked..but im root!! wtf!!
[07:40] <borisattva> has anyone been able to establish which config file does rhythmbox store its library location? i made a typo on the first run prompt. and after taht it only allows to point and lick to those on local file system
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yea i got it, do you get my reply?
[07:41] <pashaw> grajul,    what script command did you start the install with?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, No.
[07:41] <mihai_> I need help resetting the MySQL passwords
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: damn
[07:41] <saadat> easyubuntu.... let me search ubuntuforums for it then
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Are you registered?  (Ain't this fun?)
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yea im registered
[07:41] <intelikey> lol
[07:42] <blanky> saadat, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[07:42] <intelikey> are you identified to the server ?
[07:42] <grajul> pashaw: first i did a chmod 500 directed at the file then i did a sudo directed at the file
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I see it now.
[07:42] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: ok
[07:42] <saadat> thanks blanky
[07:42] <mihai____> anybody knows where the mysql passwords are stored? or how to reset them?
[07:42] <joelbryan> My first installation hangs when I try to install dapper flight-cd2
[07:42] <intelikey> i use an   .ircrc  file for auto ident
[07:43] <blanky> saadat, thanks isn't enough, how bout 5 bucks
[07:43] <blanky> hey ubotu, I'm using automatix, HAH
[07:43] <blanky> *sees computer get screwed up*
[07:43] <blanky> noooooooooooo!
[07:44] <saadat> blanky - send me the invoice - 90 day dredit right
[07:44] <grajul> pashaw: i got it so it askes for the password but my password is all numbers and i cant type it in
[07:44] <blanky> yeah sure np
[07:44] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to get ndiswrapper working on a dell truemobile, the wiki page doesn't seem to be doing it
[07:44] <HeartBT> pashaw, Ok, I'm off to frag a drive.  Now, just resize and install, right?
[07:44] <silverton> when I go to install nvidia-glx-legacy, it wants to install the 386 kernel...
[07:44] <silverton> anyway around that?
[07:44] <intelikey> :)
[07:44] <joelbryan> I got a question?, will 2.15 be the final Ubuntu dapper release?
[07:45] <pashaw> HeartBT,   i thought you had room for a side my side install/
[07:45] <blanky> intelikey, big blanky go boom?
[07:45] <blanky> helicopter go boom!
[07:45] <joelbryan> I got a question?, will Kernel 2.15 will be made on the final dapper release?
[07:45] <pashaw> HeartBT,   but yes that should work also  always do backups   before resizing
[07:45] <HeartBT> pashaw, plenty.  I'm pessimistic.  I've been dealing with suse for the last 4 years, and things just never go perfect in suse.
[07:46] <intelikey> 2.15  :)
[07:46] <intelikey> 2.6.15 you mean ?
[07:46] <HeartBT> pashaw, recomendations for a partition resizing util?  or let ubuntu do it?
[07:46] <HeartBT> think painless
[07:46] <grajul> pashaw: i got it accept my password but the install did not start up
[07:47] <pashaw> grajul,    what game  doom3?
[07:47] <HeartBT> oops, I don't think that worked grajul
[07:47] <HeartBT> :)
[07:48] <intelikey> !info linux dapper
[07:48] <ubotu> linux: (Generic complete Linux kernel.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.15.5 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[07:49] <intelikey> !info linux warty
[07:49] <pashaw> HeartBT,   any of the parted's should work   qt  or g
[07:49] <intelikey> hmmm no info on warty
[07:50] <sklav> ok its bedtime
[07:50] <HeartBT> pashaw, alrighty, I'm out of here.  BB in about an hour.  I hope.
[07:50] <sklav> ive been on to long today
[07:50] <pashaw> HeartBT,    GL
[07:50] <ArabianMystic> Hey...
[07:50] <jrattner1> What is a good CD to mp3 converter?
[07:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   hey old timer
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, lol
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it certainly feels that way...
[07:51] <intelikey> to mp3 ???? yuch
[07:51] <jrattner1> yeh
[07:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   X still working
[07:51] <jrattner1> Any ideas?
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, yes. I have a slight but annoying though...
[07:52] <intelikey> audacity will do that wont it.
[07:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, the link to my windows partition, on my ubuntu desktop, cannot be accessed. Apparently I don't have permission.
[07:52] <intelikey> ArabianMystic ^
[07:52] <intelikey> but i'd use ogg
[07:52] <intelikey> not mp3
[07:52] <jrattner1> intelikey, ill give it a try
[07:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, can anything be done?
[07:53] <jrattner1> why ogg?
[07:53] <intelikey> open source   and as good or better quality
[07:53] <bluefrog-10> jrattner1, smaller and free
[07:53] <ArabianMystic> Guess not :( :(
[07:53] <intelikey> mp3 is not open source.
[07:53] <intelikey> !mp3
[07:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <jrattner1> yeh, but i fear that if i try to later burn it to another cd that the track wont have information: (ID3) tags?
[07:54] <m0r0n> Hi, I want to install a theme from gnome-look.org, but the theme preference tool displays the message "the file format is invalid" for every tar.gz file I ve  downloaded. I ve read that I only need to choose the downloaded file for the installation. But it doesnt work, Any ideas ?
[07:54] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to properly install a wifi card with ndiswrapper in 5.10?
[07:54] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    yes  just looking for the Ubuntu way   im too old school
[07:54] <intelikey> dailyrorschach i hear about it all the time, but i have no withless.
[07:54] <intelikey> !wifi
[07:54] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:54] <dailyrorschach> yeah, no, that doesn't work
[07:55] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:55] <dailyrorschach> I did it before with 5.04 but forgot where I found the right instructions, it took me a whole night to find it
[07:55] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, danke
[07:55] <intelikey> ArabianMystic see !ntfs
[07:56] <bluefrog-10> ArabianMystic, edit /etc/fstab , replace defaults by umask=0222 on the ntfs line. alternatively reading the help guide (red question mark on the task bar) provided by ubuntu solves a lot of problem.
[07:56] <intelikey> yeah what pashaw gave you ....   sorry i'm slow.
[07:57] <Mohan> guys i am changing my hard disk I want to have both windows xp and ubuntu on it, so what should I do first install and then install ubuntu on it or vice versa
[07:57] <theCore> Mohan, windows first
[07:57] <Mohan> first xp or ubutnu
[07:57] <pashaw> Mohan,    windows first
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> !ntfs
[07:58] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> windows takes a dump on your linux partion :(
[07:58] <intelikey> Mohan install windows and leave free disk space (not partitioned) for ubuntu.
[07:58] <Mohan> should i partion the disk using windows while intallation or while intallling ubuntu
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> ubuntu
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay, that's fine, it works... however, I get this error: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> dont do it in xp
[07:59] <intelikey> Mohan you want to setup windows but leave free space on the hdd
[07:59] <niffe> what is good ftp software with ssl support?
[07:59] <niffe> GUI
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> So after I run clamscan, where are the results??
[08:00] <intelikey> then install ubuntu and when asked select the free space and make ext3  for ubuntu
[08:00] <intelikey> Mohan ^
[08:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   you can scroll down that page  to the file system table section   if the drives are already listed in fstab
[08:00] <Mohan> then i will make a singlle partion and install win
[08:00] <fangorious> anyone know how to add/remove search engines in konqueror's search bar?
[08:01] <intelikey> Mohan yes but don't let it have all the disk
[08:01] <intelikey> leave about 3 or more gig  free
[08:01] <Mohan> i must first say i am an non techy so forgive me if i dont understand fully first time
[08:01] <rob1> whats the url for the fridge rss feed?
[08:01] <intelikey> depending on the avalable space of course.
[08:02] <Mohan> like my new hard disk is 80 gb
[08:02] <Mohan> so how should i allocate
[08:02] <Raskall> Merry xmas, folks.
[08:03] <grayman> its tomorrow no?
[08:03] <rob1> yes
[08:03] <Raskall> Here in Norway it's 24. at least
[08:03] <intelikey> so let windows have some of it (i would say maybe 20g) and after install of win let ub have some of it (another 20g leaving 40g free, that you can always add to either system as needed.)
[08:03] <intelikey> Mohan ^
[08:03] <grayman> its in january here
[08:03] <grayman> :P
[08:04] <war-totem> is dapper drake out allready?
[08:04] <war-totem> and if so it must be in alpha stage right?
[08:04] <intelikey> war-totem not until x-04-2006
[08:04] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Okay! I can see it now. Thanks once again.
[08:04] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, :P
[08:04] <jenda> war-totem: It's in development, but you can use it already, war-totem
[08:05] <Mohan> iinteli will this be ok 30 for Win 20 for ubuntu and 30 for fat32 coomman
[08:05] <intelikey> war-totem yeah kinda like alpha stage
[08:05] <war-totem> jenda: whats the point? just to help bug test it?
[08:05] <war-totem> intelikey: hardcore only then id imagine
[08:05] <grayman> hva g det?
[08:05] <intelikey> Mohan yes of course
[08:05] <intelikey> war-totem yes
[08:05] <jenda> war-totem: Yup. That... and the fact that you have the newest OS in the world on your PC at the moment...
[08:05] <Mohan> inteli another thing
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: hahah
[08:06] <jenda> Some people like that.
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: i had a hell of a time with breezy when it first came out
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: i think dapper would make me cry
[08:06] <jenda> yeah... I didn't - I waited for the release.
[08:06] <Mohan> many sites say that you must not load grub on the MBR for dual boot what is your suggestion and why
[08:06] <intelikey> i have one of the oldest.   comadore 64   :)
[08:06] <war-totem> intelikey: now your dating yourself ;)
[08:06] <pashaw> Moder,   many who?
[08:07] <jenda> Hey... I need to enable more languages in openoffice.org - French and Czech. Where's the place to look?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Mohan, I have grub on the MBR dual-booting Ubuntu and WinXP on two different computers just fine.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, We have a working C64 too.
[08:07] <intelikey> Mohan there is a good wiki about grub and duel boot on the ub site.  i sujest you read it.
[08:07] <intelikey> !grub
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:08] <war-totem> what do you ppl think of the state of windows gaming in linux?
[08:08] <war-totem> do you think its improving or will linux never get there?
[08:08] <Mohan> but will WIn load properly after grub installation
[08:08] <Mohan> without me changing anything
[08:08] <jrattner1> a
[08:08] <Mohan> i must say i am absolute non techy
[08:09] <pashaw> war-totem,   gaming in general needs a revamp   they are getting too lazy     fancy graphics  but games are boring
[08:09] <intelikey> that is what the page is all about Mohan   how to set it up so it will
[08:09] <war-totem> pashaw: maybe but thats not what im asking.  i would like to be linux only, but gaming forces me to have a windows partition
[08:09] <war-totem> pashaw: and i have had no luck with games on linux and ive tried a lot of things
[08:09] <manuel_> Hi, I need some help, I can't play any song (mp3) and video, and I install all the codecs
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Mohan, Probably.  Both of mine worked out of the box, which is what we all hope for.  If not, reread the documentation and try to figure it out, and failing that, you can come back here and we'll hook you up.
[08:10] <war-totem> manuel_: theres an excellent wiki about codecs and mp3
[08:10] <war-totem> manuel_: ubuntu too
[08:10] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i have a brand nitb C64
[08:10] <manuel_> yes
[08:10] <pashaw> war-totem,   theres nothing wrong with keeping the dual boot        some people smoke cigarettes  some drink alot  you game
[08:10] <manuel_> I check that before
[08:10] <intelikey> nitb=new in the box
[08:11] <Mohan> guys i am experimenting with the office pc so it is absolutely necessary
[08:11] <war-totem> pashaw: interesting that you said that as i do all three
[08:11] <manuel_> but I can't ear and see anything
[08:11] <war-totem> pashaw: am i going to hell?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, How in the world did that happen?
[08:11] <pashaw> war-totem,   why you want to plan  meet and greet there with the rest of the channel
[08:11] <war-totem> manuel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:12] <war-totem> pashaw: hehe
[08:12] <intelikey> local school never brought it out of storage closet  last year they found it.  lol pitched it in the trash so i grabed it.
[08:12] <Mohan> another thing mine is Winxp without sp2 should i update first or should i update after my installation of ubuntu
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Wait a few years, then, --- Ebay!  Or keep it around to confuse grandchildren sometime.
[08:13] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: haha
[08:14] <war-totem> use it in your "when i was your age" speeches
[08:14] <intelikey> i think i could still get it to sell lemonade   lol
[08:14] <pashaw> Mohan,   does it really matter     SP2 has a better chance of destrying your windows partition than Ubuntu does
[08:14] <war-totem> Mohan: in my experience, do everything you need to for winxp then install ubuntu
[08:15] <intelikey> my generation didn't have cell phones computers cdplayer/walkman   so we invented them.  what is your generation doing?
[08:15] <Mohan> nope man i just wanted to know c guys i am again telling you i am a guy who has interest in computer but is an absolute non-technical guy so i dont know what does what
[08:16] <pashaw> Mohan,    you want to become a techie?
[08:16] <war-totem> Mohan: turn back now, while you have a chance
[08:16] <Mohan> i am finanace guy by profession yaar
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Drinking up a storm at uni and downloading music, obviously.
[08:17] <intelikey> this generation didn't invent drinking or drugs either....
[08:17] <intelikey> not even sex....
[08:17] <pashaw> Mohan,   ive always learned more  from breaking stuff, but thats just me
[08:18] <intelikey> even if they think they did.
[08:18] <war-totem> pashaw: not just you
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> pashaw, Good call.  That's what I did with Hoary for a couple of months.  Then by the time I did a clean install of Breezy I knew how to avoid most of that.
[08:18] <Mohan> guys i also want to know why is that somehow we r not able to make ubuntu write NTFS partition
[08:19] <intelikey> and my generation didn't invent the wheel, we just applied the 440 hemi to it.
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> pashaw, I learned quick that removing ubuntu-desktop was a bad idea.  (It happened automatically as a dependency that I didn't bother to read.)
[08:19] <pashaw> tonyyarusso,   haha  sweet
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> Mohan: Because NTFS comes from M$, so of course it doesn't play nice.
[08:20] <pashaw> Mohan,   ask bill gates      let me know  what he tells you
[08:20] <intelikey> well i guess that was off topic...   sorry for the rant/
[08:20] <Mohan> like other from M$
[08:20] <pashaw> intelikey,   no sweat its getting quiet  this late anyway
[08:21] <war-totem> i dont understand why MS continues to come out with new OS's
[08:21] <war-totem> in canada, the govt is still using win 2k
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Speaking of which, bed time approacheth.
[08:21] <war-totem> i cant imagine govt and corp. paying thousands for the pleasure of a whole new set of problems
[08:22] <pashaw> war-totem,    they are a marketing company        that really is there strong point  they know how to sell tiny changes at new prices
[08:22] <AdmiralCrunch> hey, how do I make a busy partition available?
[08:22] <war-totem> pashaw: you gotta figure though that if it aint broke, noones gonna wanna pay top dollar for something new
[08:22] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   what are you trying to do?
[08:23] <Mohan> but you have to give to M$ they r good in the business of marketing a product
[08:23] <war-totem> i just dont see vista as doing too well
[08:23] <intelikey> yeah i'll update to new windows when win3k comes out or hell freezes over which ever comes first.
[08:23] <Mohan> irrespective of whether it is goood or bad
[08:23] <borisattva> does anyone know how to force rhythmbox to ask for explicit Library URL like it does on first start? even a full remoavl, restart and reinstall doenst seem to bring it back
[08:23] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, I am in QTParted trying to set my NTFS partition as Active on one drive, but it warns me not to because the drive is busy
[08:24] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   hmm parti had this problem yesterday
[08:24] <Wilf> alrighty. brand new breezy badger installation just then.
[08:24] <eric_> do u have to use the terminal to install everyting?
[08:24] <intelikey> borisattva rm the .rythmbox  maybe
[08:24] <Wilf> how so i make ubuntu use duel monitors?
[08:24] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, what did you do?
[08:24] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   your using Ubuntu LiveCD?
[08:24] <AdmiralCrunch> I am actualy on Knoppix but it has many of the same tools
[08:25] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   version 4.0.2 knoppix  or older?
[08:25] <inf3ctedfx> Hello ppl
[08:25] <borisattva> intelikey, i did, thats why its surprising. i did a full rm even with all configs restart then reinstalled. i'm guessing it kept a record of that 1st start somewhere else
[08:25] <AdmiralCrunch> older
[08:25] <Mohan> guys will there be more virus attacks on ubuntu as more people start using more of it
[08:25] <intelikey> wilf "duel head"
[08:25] <intelikey> google has some howto's
[08:25] <war-totem> Mohan: doubtful
[08:25] <inf3ctedfx> this is a simple question that I dont remember the answer lol... how can I rename a folder from the terminal?  is "mv" command?
[08:25] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, i think theres an error in the older stuff   she fixed hers by using the newest knoppix  i think
[08:26] <war-totem> Mohan: with linux the source code is often included in packages allowing ppl to see exactly whats written in it
[08:26] <intelikey> borisattva no your $HOME/.rythmbox*    look for that.
[08:26] <Mohan> but a novice user like me does not know what is soource code
[08:26] <Mohan> so i will noot know what is there in a first place
[08:27] <eric_> thats what i'm sayin
[08:27] <intelikey> or were you saying you did that borisattva ?
[08:27] <war-totem> Mohan: no but others do and how often you think your gonna download something that others havent? especially from repos
[08:28] <borisattva> intelikey: i did the package remove, AND i also removed the folder from home to another location
[08:28] <borisattva> its really strange
[08:28] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, so in the new versions I can switch it to active?
[08:28] <DeeJay> hi
[08:28] <Mohan> but as more people use linux there will be programs written that will be alternative installer which may let some virus attacks
[08:29] <eric_> more people are using linux?
[08:29] <intelikey> yeah that is strange.  the  rm $HOME/.rythmbox*  should have reset it.
[08:29] <Mohan> i meant in the future
[08:29] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, isnt that your problem  the window shows NTFS active  with a warning in the lower left  that says busy
[08:29] <eric_> oh
[08:29] <Khisanth> there are already plenty of different ways to install
[08:29] <borisattva> would i have to restart after removing the .rhythmbox? i'm very new to linux, not sure of how it handles things
[08:30] <eric_> i know alot of people who are afraid to use it
[08:30] <Khisanth> but most people are simply going to use whatever method their distro provides
[08:30] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, My ext3 is active, I want to switch it back to NTFS for a short while, and it says its busy
[08:30] <chipperkwah> skankin A
[08:30] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, by the way...Minnesota? If so, same here
[08:30] <eric_> well its the whole been using windows forever thing
[08:30] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,    yep
[08:31] <intelikey> borisattva yes 'killall rythmbox ;rm $HOME/.rythmbox* '   and logout and back in
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do you turn ext2 into ext3? tunefs somehow?
[08:31] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   your just changing the bootable flags  or your resizing?
[08:31] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, just changing flags
[08:32] <borisattva> thanks, will try
[08:32] <intelikey> maybe add -rf to the rm command
[08:32] <borisattva> ok
[08:32] <dfgas> ok, i changed my kernel from i386 to i686, how do i get my nvidia driver working again?
[08:32] <dailyrorschach> I need a favor, from anyone with a recent install, could you please cd /etc/rcS.d  do an ls, and let me know what's there
[08:32] <crimsun> dfgas: did you install linux-686?
[08:32] <dfgas> yah
[08:32] <dfgas> i think so
[08:33] <Mohan> will there be problem in installng ubuntu on win xp with mcafee virsu scaner enabled when my MBR is changed by GRUB will my virus scanner cause any troublle
[08:33] <dfgas> 2.6.12.10
[08:33] <dfgas> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:33] <intelikey> lol dailyrorschach you blast your startup scripts ?
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> intelikey: not completley
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> intelikey: just changed something that fucked up dhcp
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> when trying to get wpa supplicant to work
[08:33] <dfgas> crimsun: any idea?
[08:34] <crimsun> dfgas: then you should have a linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package installed, too
[08:34] <intelikey> dailyrorschach that's a good way to learn to  'ls /etc/rc*.d/ > list '  first  :)
[08:34] <Mohan> thanx everyone for the suggestions
[08:34] <dfgas> crimsun: yup
[08:35] <intelikey> dailyrorschach i'd love to give you a list but i don't even have that distro here.
[08:35] <eric_> will a xp cd take ubuntu off my pc?
[08:35] <dailyrorschach> yeah, I think I know what it is
[08:35] <dailyrorschach> but i want to make sure first
[08:35] <crimsun> dfgas: how did you establish that it isn't working?
[08:35] <intelikey> eric_ it can.  why you ask ?
[08:35] <dfgas> X won't start anymore
[08:35] <eric_> i'm gonna take it off
[08:36] <intelikey> yes it can.  remove the partition/s  and fix the mbr
[08:36] <ice_1963> lol win
[08:37] <intelikey> eric_ may i ask why exactly you are ditching linux ?
[08:37] <crimsun> dfgas: did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:37] <eric_> i know, just dont understand the linux world
[08:38] <intelikey> ah yes lost in cyber space can be perplexing indeed.
[08:38] <eric_> lol, never been good with dos or whatever its called
[08:38] <intelikey> eric_ did you understand the M$ world first time you tried to use it ?
[08:39] <eric_> i only use ms at school, mac mostly
[08:39] <intelikey> ok mac then ?
[08:39] <eric_> well no
[08:39] <intelikey> it takes some time to learn any vertual system.
[08:39] <eric_> but mac doesnt have the command lines and all
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> more shame to it
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> (osx does, btw)
[08:40] <eric_> and i've come across some hostile linux users when i ask for help
[08:40] <eric_> i use 9.2.2
[08:40] <intelikey> i'm not trying to talk you out of scrapping linux just explaining that you may have expected to much of your self, not of the os.
[08:41] <ice_1963> and so does m/w
[08:41] <niffe> how i can download "driverloader" from apt-get ?
[08:41] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, you can move active flags  with fdisk  or cfdisk
[08:41] <niffe> driverloader = wlan tool
[08:41] <dfgas> crimsun: got it fixed, installed the right modules deb and then i reinstalled the nvidia kernel and now it works
[08:42] <intelikey> when i first moved to linux, i expected to understand how to use it because i knew how to use dos.   it didn't work that way.  i had to learn just like anyone else.
[08:42] <crimsun> dfgas: good
[08:42] <eric_> guess thats true, just really didnt think there would be this much involvement
[08:42] <eric_> and i've never knew dos or anything like that
[08:43] <eric_> lol been on it for a week
[08:43] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, ah cool, I will google how to do it
[08:44] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,  careful you dont touch anything but the active flag
[08:44] <eric_> i went to the yahoo linux room to ask how to install stuff and they basically told me to get lost
[08:44] <eric_> lol
[08:44] <intelikey> eric_ id say just from experance and what i have seen in others, that you would be one of the ones that went CLI only in two years or less if you stay with linux.    because the cli is still the strength of linux.  the gui is nice, and i have nothing against it but the real power is still in the cli
[08:44] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   and the mbr  can be fixed with knoppix easy
[08:44] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, How so?
[08:45] <intelikey> !CLI
[08:45] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:45] <eric_> its just hard to understand for me
[08:45] <s_grace6u> hi! how do i setup my modem connections for dialup? i tried the pppconfig but to no avail...can someone pleas help me? :D
[08:45] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   incase anything goes wrong  keep this http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ
[08:46] <intelikey> s_grace6u if it's not a winmodem run wvdialconf
[08:46] <kassah_> eric_, the learning curve is known... the benifit of linux is a very steep learning curve... that's the trade off of having a very powerful product
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, thank you
[08:46] <intelikey> s_grace6u you may need to install wvdial     sudo apt-get install wvdial
[08:46] <borisattva> intelikey: nope.. didnt work and actually full remove took out the $Home/.rhythmbox contents on its own so i didnt have to move it, but the application doenst ask me for the path still.
[08:46] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   the book knoppix hacks   is nice to have around also
[08:47] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, yes, I like the hacks series of the orielly books, I have the googe and irc ones, good material
[08:47] <eric_> well even when i'm in the terminal it gives me a problems with my password
[08:47] <kassah_> I'm having trouble turning off the encrypted mode on my wireless card
[08:48] <intelikey> borisattva next time i'm on a ub box i'll check that out.    sorry i can't be of more help now.
[08:48] <kassah_> I've been using the Gnome Network Settings to change my settings
[08:48] <intelikey> eric_ reset your password
[08:48] <eric_> how do u do that?
[08:48] <intelikey> eric_ do you have a root password set ?
[08:48] <borisattva> i appreciate the effort :) now i wanna figure it out too just to understand it
[08:49] <kassah_> even though I've erased the key, iwconfig still shows a Encryption key:77A.... and it doesn't seem to want to connect to the open netgear wireless access point
[08:49] <eric_> see i have no idea, only password i know of is the log on
[08:49] <kassah_> any ideas?
[08:49] <intelikey> if it didn't ask you for a root password on install and you have not done 'sudo passwd ' then there is not one set. eric_
[08:50] <intelikey> eric_ try 'sudo passwd <your_nick> '
[08:50] <gary__> anyone known symptoms for dhcp failing, I did a network restart, and since then dhcp is failing
[08:50] <intelikey> first prompt will be for you current pass   next for the new one   then new again
[08:51] <bluefrog-10> eric_, there is a question mark in the taskbarup guide to understand what's going on...se the hel and
[08:51] <eric_> do i use the root term or the other one?
[08:52] <intelikey> eric_ if you can access a root term just use it and do  'passwd <your_name> '
[08:52] <intelikey> in the root term you don't need sudo    sudo = supper user do
[08:53] <jrattner1> What do you use to un .RAR a file
[08:53] <intelikey> aka root do this.
[08:53] <intelikey> fileroller ?
[08:53] <intelikey> not sure.
[08:53] <pashaw> !rar
[08:53] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[08:54] <gary__> anyone know why dhcp would no longer be working?
[08:54] <gary__> after a network restart it doesn't work anymore
[08:54] <intelikey> and that's about all you can do with .rar
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> gary__, what's the error?
[08:55] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it just doesn't work anymore
[08:55] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it no longer grabs an ip address
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> gary__, what's the error? in the log
[08:55] <freelove> i installed yahoo msger 7 with wine......now how to start it??
[08:56] <gary__> bluefrog-10: where would I find that?
[08:56] <intelikey> bluefrog-10 help him find the log
[08:56] <intelikey> lol i was too slow.
[08:56] <freelove> i installed yahoo messenger 7 with wine......now how to start it??
[08:56] <borisattva> wooohoo. i figured out a way around it :) i just used rhythmbox -import smb://path ... and it worked. strangely -import is not even mentioned in the --help for it
[08:56] <electroweak> hey guys i need some help please about installation
[08:56] <bluefrog-10> /var/log/syslog
[08:57] <intelikey> freelove wine </path/file.exe>
[08:58] <borisattva> oh blah. it crashed after a couple dozen retrieves.
[08:58] <electroweak> after complation of installation X11 shutting itself down
[08:58] <intelikey> tac /var/log/syslog | grep -m3 -ie'dhcp'
[08:59] <intelikey> borisattva you know about gaim don't you ?
[08:59] <intelikey> !gaim
[08:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[08:59] <gary__> bluefrog-10: here's part of the log
[08:59] <gary__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6107
[09:00] <intelikey> electroweak you can reconfigure you X server with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[09:00] <electroweak> it gives some error log before shutdown
[09:01] <borisattva> intelikey: i am using it right now, why?
[09:01] <electroweak> regarding some fonts
[09:01] <intelikey> just asking.
[09:01] <bluefrog-10> gary__, that's the client's log not server;
[09:02] <intelikey> borisattva i thought gaim did yahoo messenger stuff too
[09:03] <gary__> thats what was there
[09:03] <borisattva> it appears to, it provides for yahoo acount submission. but i havent tried it out yet. so much of new consepts in trying linux
[09:03] <bluefrog-10> gary__, where is your dhcp server located?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: no, the problem is that I'm trying to use dhcp to get an IP address
[09:04] <bluefrog-10> gary__, where is your dhcp server located?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: on the router
[09:04] <bluefrog-10> gary__, is it enabled and fully working?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it worked, then I did a network restart and it hasnt worked since
[09:05] <gary__> bluefrog-10: so its definatley something that fucked up in the software on ubuntu not the router, I booted into windows to make sure
[09:05] <jenda> Hey, I need help setting up multiple languages in OO.o
[09:05] <eek-0> umm
[09:05] <eek-0> cd \; rm -rf *
[09:05] <eek-0> try that
[09:05] <jenda> *OO.o2, that is. I need English, French and
[09:05] <jenda> NOOOOOOOO
[09:05] <jenda> eek-0: WAHT THEFUCK?
[09:05] <eek-0> haah
[09:05] <eek-0> just joking
[09:05] <jenda> NOT FUNNY!
[09:05] <eek-0> haha
[09:06] <eek-0> it would have been if you were actually stupid enough to do it
[09:06] <borisattva> lol
[09:06] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, there are some people in here that actually might do that. Although, it wouldn't work, since you forgot sudo
[09:06] <eek-0> umm
[09:06] <jenda> Fortunaty
[09:06] <eek-0> what if they are already root?
[09:06] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, the chances of that are highly doubtful
[09:06] <eek-0> its possible, though
[09:06] <jenda> eek-0: that is a very bad joke. People come here as noobs, they have no clue.
[09:06] <eek-0> you have to be an idiot to get on IRC as root
[09:07] <eek-0> jenda, well they'll learn quick then won't they?
[09:07] <eek-0> im a noob myself
[09:07] <jenda> Damn you
[09:07] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, they shouldn't have to from some stupid thing that was apparently a "joke"
[09:07] <eek-0> i've been on ubuntu for about 5 hours
[09:07] <jenda> That's not funny - do not ever say that out loud in IRC again.
[09:07] <eek-0> first time on linux
[09:07] <eek-0> jenda, umm....you gonna make me?
[09:07] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, he may not but an OP might
[09:07] <Madpilot> !conduct
[09:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, conduct is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:07] <eek-0> excactly
[09:07] <eek-0> but
[09:07] <eek-0> i wont say it again
[09:08] <eek-0> dont wanna cause a ruckus
[09:08] <jenda> Good for you.
[09:08] <Madpilot> eek-0: read the URL ubotu just provided, please...
[09:08] <eek-0> nah
[09:08] <eek-0> got other things to do
[09:08] <eric_> lol ok
[09:08] <eek-0> like compile openssl
[09:08] <eek-0> :)
[09:08] <borisattva> he's a rebel
[09:09] <intelikey> eek-0 you the joker in this deck ?
[09:09] <eek-0> hah
[09:09] <eek-0> nice.
[09:09] <xenex> Does anyone here use NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) as their wireless card?
[09:09] <eek-0> borisattva, a rebel?
[09:09] <dailyrorschach> bluefrog-10: sorry, just tried to see if I could reinstall the dhcp client
[09:09] <morpheus5> hi all
[09:10] <dailyrorschach> bluefrog-10: its so strange that it just stopped working, and I need dhcp to work to go back to school thanks to the way the network works
[09:10] <borisattva> eek: standing up against guidelines reading opressors.. (it was a j/k)
[09:10] <eek-0> ..
[09:10] <eek-0> reading opressors?
[09:10] <eek-0> i dont think so
[09:10] <eek-0> i have other shit to do
[09:10] <morpheus5> i am a windows user, i tried to install ubuntu 5.10, but it cant write root directory
[09:10] <eek-0> and what im doing, requires reading
[09:10] <eek-0> morpheus5, are you trying a dual boot?
[09:11] <morpheus5> nope...
[09:11] <intelikey> porry mouth.
[09:11] <borisattva> like my elaboration that it was only a j/k :)
[09:11] <morpheus5> i;m doing it on other comp
[09:11] <eek-0> porry mouth?
[09:11] <Madpilot> potty?
[09:11] <eek-0> typos?
[09:12] <eek-0> damnit
[09:12] <eek-0> wtf is up with this SSL
[09:12] <intelikey> yeah     off home key
[09:12] <morpheus5> still trying to install it now, i reformatted the whole hddisk
[09:12] <morpheus5> and i used auto-partitioning scheme
[09:12] <pablo928> as you install, are you letting Ubuntu format all of your harddrive, or are you manually editing the partitioning?
[09:13] <morpheus5> manually editing
[09:13] <morpheus5> but i use it's scheme
[09:13] <eek-0> umm
[09:13] <eek-0> i ./config
[09:13] <eek-0> ./make test
[09:13] <eek-0> ./make install
[09:13] <eek-0> and nothing
[09:13] <eek-0> so wtf
[09:13] <pablo928>  morpheus5- why do it manually if you just have one os?
[09:14] <jenda> eek-0: I once told a noob here, who asked how to remove KDE, sudo rm (you know the rest) and I had quite a stressful moment because they were actually going to do it - someone stopped them. The joke is just too old and too dangerous.
[09:14] <morpheus5> i tried using VM also
[09:14] <intelikey> ./configure ?
[09:14] <bluefrog-10> eek-0, too many rude words, your computer doesn't like it
[09:14] <eek-0> jenda, FUCKING DROP IT YOU IDIOT...i heard you the first damn time
[09:14] <wickedpuppy> ....
[09:14] <eek-0> now stfu about it
[09:14] <borisattva> hahah
[09:14] <borisattva> wow
[09:15] <eek-0> you piss me off, and i'll go down through the list and /notice everyone with cd \; rm -rf *
[09:15] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, quit making threats, that's going out of line
[09:15] <eek-0> i dont  care
[09:15] <eek-0> anyway
[09:15] <borisattva> then kill yourself
[09:15] <eek-0> haha
[09:15] <eek-0> nah
[09:15] <borisattva> qith a chrry on top
[09:15] <eek-0> cuz then, what would your mother do?
[09:15] <pablo928>  morpheus5- if you manually partition the harddrive you have to select i partition as root (/)
[09:16] <jenda> !ops
[09:16] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[09:16] <glick> how come my gtk-gnutella no longer connects to anything?
[09:16] <borisattva> she'll kill someone else. youre not the only one out there :)
[09:16] <eek-0> umm
[09:16] <eek-0> i can't
[09:16] <borisattva> yeah
[09:16] <eek-0> :(
[09:16] <morpheus5> i did select one as root, one as swap, and one as home
[09:16] <xenex> Does anyone here use NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) as their wireless card?
[09:16] <eek-0> xenex, i used to..not the chinesee version though
[09:16] <eek-0> umm
[09:16] <eek-0> well
[09:17] <eek-0> it was a wireless router
[09:17] <pablo928>   morpheus5- did you get a message that you needed to set one partition as root?
[09:17] <xenex> eek-0, I am new to Ubuntu and I need help making it work. :\
[09:17] <eek-0> hah
[09:17] <morpheus5> yup
[09:17] <morpheus5>  and i did it
[09:17] <eek-0> you're on wireless?
[09:17] <jenda> Anyway... I need help adding languages to OpenOffice
[09:17] <xenex> eek-0, I am currently connected through a ethernet cable, but I need to get the wireless working.
[09:18] <glick> they should call ubuntu jubuntu
[09:18] <morpheus5> modify it
[09:18] <eek-0> xenex, can't help you there..i had the same problem (internet with wireless) never could get it working .....
[09:18] <eek-0> !wireless
[09:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:18] <morpheus5> import text tables from other linux/?
[09:18] <pablo928>  morpheus5-to make it easier on yourself for a 1st install, why not let the installer partition automatically?
[09:18] <morpheus5> i tried it
[09:18] <morpheus5> but still not working
[09:19] <pablo928>  morpheus5- same error message?
[09:19] <eek-0> now to configure anope...
[09:19] <morpheus5> yup
[09:19] <morpheus5> whenever i tried to create a root partition, an error message will show up
[09:20] <morpheus5> i/o error on /ide/dev0 bla bla bla
[09:20] <pablo928>  morpheus5-in that case, don't think I can help you. Maybe someone else!
[09:20] <morpheus5> can it be the CDimage i downloaded has error?
[09:22] <pablo928>  morpheus5- i think that's a possibility, but usually you get a different error message such as "can't locate file"
[09:24] <Wilf> mmm. editing xorg.conf for dual head...
[09:24] <Wilf> my second monitor is a analog crt monitor, connected to the dvi port on my card via an adaptor
[09:25] <Wilf> so i tell it dfp or crt?
[09:25] <Wilf> do*
[09:25] <Ozman> Hi, I removed yesterday the bar at the bottom of the screen which shows the windows etc.... would you know how to make a new one ?
[09:26] <intelikey> crt i would think
[09:26] <xenex> Anyone know how to get swf-player?
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, do you have a panel at the top showing your applications and stuff?
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Like, the applications menu?
[09:26] <eek-0> In what directory do you want the binaries to be installed?
[09:26] <eek-0> [/root/services] 
[09:26] <Ozman> yes
[09:26] <eek-0> i dont want it there
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Right-click, and select "New Panel"
[09:26] <eek-0> i want it /home/ace/ircd-services
[09:26] <intelikey> Ozman right click maybe ?
[09:26] <pablo928> Ozman- do you still have the taskbar on the top?
[09:26] <Seveas> eek-0: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:27] <SweetestSavage> Oops, Ozman, I meant right-click in an empty spot on the panel at the top and select that
[09:27] <kassah_> how do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[09:27] <Ozman> SweetestSavage, I don't have that choice ....
[09:27] <Seveas> !tell kassah_ about breezy
[09:28] <Ozman> ah yes thats ok
[09:28] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, try in an empty spot on the panel
[09:29] <eek-0> Seveas, who the fuck are you?
[09:29] <pablo928>  Ozman-or at the extreme left or right of the panel
[09:29] <Ozman> yes its ok, thx !
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, great =)
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> To add stuff to it, just select "Add to this panel.."
[09:30] <SweetestSavage> By the way.. regarding that.. how do you get the cool desklet app that shows your system resources?
[09:31] <DavidLeeRoth> is there a way to install Ubuntu to a 1GB CF card?
[09:31] <ArabianMystic> !mp3
[09:31] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <intelikey> one could always 'rm -rf $HOME/.gnome* ' for a reset to default settings.....  <-- know what you're getting to first.
[09:31] <ArabianMystic> DavidLeeRoth, Hey man, why'd you leave Van Halen?
[09:32] <Ozman> maybe you could help me with anotther error now... I can't make more than one switcher in the panel, when I click on "preferences" I see an error message telling : "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for wnck-applet. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly." and then I can't change the number of switcher ....
[09:32] <jenda> Seveas: thanks
[09:32] <eric_> ok it aint working, thanks for the help
[09:32] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth server install yes
[09:32] <SweetestSavage> CF card? o.o
[09:33] <DavidLeeRoth> any distro would do, so long as it has support for my NIC
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Hey I wonder.. lol.. this makes me wonder, could you get linux running in a portable storage device?
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Say a 2gb SD card..
[09:33] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Yes
[09:33] <borisattva> sweetest: imagine how slow that would be?
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, yeah, but it would sure be cool.
[09:34] <jenda> SweetestSavage: I'll give you a link to a forum where this has been discussed recently
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, I think just running around with a live CD would be more appropriate, though
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> jenda, ah okay.
[09:34] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth no it's too big.   you can do a server install and add X and twm/xfce4/fluxbox/'or any small desktop'  but a  default install is too big for 1g
[09:34] <borisattva> would be a like a blast from 2400 dial-up past
[09:34] <DavidLeeRoth> fluxbox rules
[09:35] <Madpilot> ... need sleep. Good night, Merry Christmas, and bah humbug to everyone - I'll see you all after Christmas!
[09:35] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth on that small of a space think 'DSL'
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> See ya Madpilot, merry christmas to you too
[09:35] <jenda> SweetestSavage, borisattva Actually it's not supposedly so bad: http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1674
[09:35] <mrkoje> intelikey,  I second the dsl
[09:35] <intelikey> that's DSL linux
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> Thanks jenda
[09:35] <jenda> np
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> DSL doesnt have support for my nic
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> i want something that can work right out of the box
[09:35] <jenda> Con anyone help me add languages to OpenOffuce?
[09:35] <Ozman> what is 'yum' ?
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> without having to compile stuff
[09:35] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  Actually, compact flash cards have an IDE mode in which they can operate.  With the right adapter, it can interface right to your IDE connector!
[09:36] <xenex> Anyone know how to get swf-player?
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, oh nice =)
[09:36] <mrkoje> Ozman,  thats the Yellow Dog Update Manager... I thinks its yellow dog
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> Haha, Linux is so flexible
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> Ozman, yum is something like apt-get for fedora
[09:36] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Tho cool thing is when you have Ubuntu on a digitaly camera...
[09:36] <mrkoje> Ozman,  its pretty much with Red Hat/ Fedora based systems
[09:36] <jenda> *digital
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> jenda, whoa. That's crazy xD
[09:36] <borisattva> interesting.. i tried using an SD based mp3 player is my remote desktop at one point. with favorites saved. address book, emails etc.. it was just infuriatingly slow but it was a usb1.0 keychain player :-D
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, I have a 512mb.. too bad that's too small, otherwise I might try it. It's USB2.0
[09:36] <DavidLeeRoth> i installed win32 to my ipod... everything worked out ok until i went to boot. it booted with a blue screen.
[09:37] <jenda> Yeah... I think USB 2 would be quite suficient
[09:37] <Ozman> oh ok, it seems that my problem come from 3ddesk
[09:37] <Nei> would someone happen to know how I can assign background images to framebuffer virtual consoles? is it even possible? (I think I've seen SuSE do it)
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Wait until USB3.0 o:
[09:37] <intelikey> actually i run older mdk on 600m drive but i don't recomend distro/releases that are out of date.    slakware 5 comes to mind....
[09:37] <borisattva> xenex: install flashplayer package with universe/multiverse depositories enabled
[09:37] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Three words: DSL - Damn Small Linux
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Hehe
[09:37] <jenda> Seriously
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> I remember hearing that the smallest linux distro ever built was like, 2mb or something ridiculous
[09:37] <Steil> intelikey, there was no slack 5
[09:37] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  no firewire 800
[09:37] <jenda> It might be what you want
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> mrkoje, eh? Whatcha mean?
[09:38] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  800Mb/s
[09:38] <intelikey> non official yes
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> mrkoje, ahh. Nice.
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> I want to get me a SATA 10k RPM hard drive..
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> Those would be nice for recording videos
[09:38] <Steil> intelikey, it was released as 7.0
[09:39] <intelikey> you wont find it in the repos tho.  but there was a 5.0 i have it on cd.
[09:39] <intelikey> then it came out as 7.0 with minor changes.
[09:40] <Steil> yeah, I remember because thats when I was just getting into linux. wasn't it more akin to -current than a real release?
[09:40] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  I used to run a 1 floppy disk Linux distro as a firewall/router for my T1 a few years ago!
[09:40] <ArabianMystic> Erk, I can't seem to get xmms to run under Ubuntu - there's no reason why this should be so. Any ideas?
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, wow.
[09:40] <Ozman> could you tell me how to reset the theme ?
[09:41] <Ozman> and then restart gnome-panel
[09:41] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  They can make 'em pretty small if they have a dedicated application in mind. :-)
[09:41] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, indeed indeed. Another great thing about Linux =)
[09:42] <intelikey> Steil yes it was never an 'official' release.   sorry for the lag time here.  i had my bandwidth(narrowness actually) filled up.
[09:42] <niffe> yeah, now my wlan works
[09:43] <Steil> hah
[09:43] <Steil> what kind of connect are you on?
[09:43] <intelikey> a dialup [slow] dem
[09:43] <Steil> ahh
[09:43] <niffe> adsl
[09:44] <Steil> last time I used dialup was last september when the net connection was out in the schools residence, signed up for AOL and cancelled the next week
[09:44] <Steil> jeez it's a pain cancelling those guys
[09:44] <Steil> try to keep you on the phone as long as possible trying to sell you new stuff
[09:45] <jenda> Con anyone help me add languages to OpenOffice.org 2.0?
[09:45] <mrkoje> Steil,  you should have tried cancelling AOL in 1995
[09:45] <pablo928> Steil- did you feel like they had a gun to your head?
[09:45] <Steil> haha nope
[09:45] <antic0d3> I have a problem with my asus laptop and ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[09:45] <Steil> the guy just wouldn't stfu
[09:45] <bluefrog-10> jenda, what do u mean? add dictonnarie?
[09:45] <intelikey> AOL=!*@.$&&b
[09:45] <Steil> "Hey! Why didn't you like it? Can I interest you in this? You still have another 900 hours available"
[09:46] <pablo928> Steil- that'xs the way they made me feel.  Took qlmost an hour to cancel.
[09:46] <intelikey> well they wont let me say what i really think of them in this channel.
[09:46] <Steil> "No sir, I'd like to cancel effective immediately. I found out that I recieve a free connection through my school"
[09:46] <s_grace6u> merry christmas everyone! :D
[09:46] <jenda> bluefrog-10: I mean add spellchecking and the like - if that's what a dictionary will do - good. But another thing is for example automatic quotes - they're different in each lingo.
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> jenda, use the dict macro. u should find it on ooo
[09:47] <rob_p> s_grace6u:  And to you as well! :-)
[09:47] <intelikey> s_grace6u and have a happy selebration of the lord Jesus' birth day also.
[09:48] <Steil> hmm
[09:48] <Steil> anyways I'll be back, cigarette time
[09:48] <antic0d3> my asus a4k amd64 notebook has a ati radeon mobility 9700 vga card, I installed Ubuntu and I can see X-Window, the problem is that some pixels on my screen don't show the right colors but when I move a window over them, they disappear and after some time reappear again at another place...I don't have any problems on my windoze..what can I do? I think it is a problem with my mobility radeon 9700 and X...
[09:49] <intelikey> !ati
[09:49] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:49] <debian-san> I have a problem.  I do System | Administration | Printing, and I add a new printer.  Then I see a dialog box where my printer is selected.  However, the application crashes.
[09:49] <Shaka_Zulu> Hello.
[09:49] <lennart_> I have a strange 5.10 installation problem. The installation halts when configuring apt when I have one of my two harddrives connected. If I have both connected the installation passes but GRUB dont work. Error 17(wrong fs type,or something)
[09:49] <Shaka_Zulu> How do you make the trash can appear on the desktop in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Damn... not only did I not find it there in the macros... OO.o crashed while looking through them.
[09:50] <Shaka_Zulu> It's not there =(
[09:50] <Shaka_Zulu> I don't know what to do.
[09:50] <debian-san> How could I specify my printer "manually"?  Which file should I edit?
[09:50] <intelikey> lennart_ sounds like you need to tell grub it's on the other drive.
[09:51] <lennart_> insomnik, how?
[09:51] <Shaka_Zulu> How do you make the trash can appear on the desktop in Ubuntu? Please!
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Brb
[09:51] <lennart_> intelikey, how?
[09:51] <intelikey> Shaka_Zulu is it not on the lower pannel ?
[09:51] <lennart_> Shaka_Zulu, add it
[09:52] <duomaxwell> What up?
[09:52] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, How?
[09:52] <lennart_> right click, add to pannel, ...
[09:52] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, no... I want to put it on the Desktop.
[09:52] <intelikey> lennart_ edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change the ub root to the other drive     maybe 'man grub' for details on drive specifications
[09:53] <lennart_> drag end drop it on the desktop then
[09:53] <pablo928> Shaka_Zulu-you might check the system bios to see which harddrive you're booting from
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, tried that, didn't work.
[09:53] <duomaxwell> Is there a way for me to run a full benchmark of my system's preformance in Ubuntu? I wanna test a few things with some different hardware setups
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> pablo
[09:53] <shwag> so i just installed ubuntu. what is the guide for me to setup all the bells and whistles?
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> pablo928, funny funny funny
[09:54] <lennart_> Shaka_Zulu, then I dont know
[09:54] <shwag> and is there an easy way for me to move to firefox 1.5 and gaim2.0 beta?
[09:54] <Shaka_Zulu> kay, thanks.
[09:54] <Pablo> what?
[09:54] <intelikey> Shaka_Zulu right click the desktop and creat a launcher  and for the command put the url of the trash
[09:54] <lennart_> shwag, install them :)
[09:54] <fyrzen> yeah i've been wondering about benchmarking too, many say linux distros are too different for that, i use superpi for linux tho
[09:54] <intelikey> just a thought.
[09:54] <shwag> lennart_, ok. how?
[09:55] <lennart_> shway: www.mozilla.org .. download .. etc
[09:55] <shwag> lennart_, i like how you make it sound easy
[09:55] <vivid> is it possible to use ide-scsi emulation in ubuntu? i cant seem to be able to get it to load automatically and detect my device
[09:55] <lennart_> lol
[09:55] <shwag> lennart_, dont i need to use packages though?...apt-get or something?
[09:55] <Ozman> My bug seems known... but I don't see solutions : (Bug#272792) An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for wnck-applet.
[09:55] <Ozman> some of your configuration settings May not work properly
[09:55] <lennart_> probebly
[09:55] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen, whats "superpi"?
[09:56] <intelikey> the idea in that was really make a symlink to the trash folder,  if you are an old linux hand that is childs play.
[09:57] <intelikey> i'm not a gnome kind of guy so i don't even know where gnome puts trash.... or the desktop either for that matter.
[09:57] <lennart_> /home/<user>/.Trash
[09:57] <lennart_> /home/<user>/Desktop
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> applications > system tools > conf editor > nautilus > desktop ... check trash
[09:58] <intelikey> then for a trash on the desktop  do  'ln -s $HOME/.Trash $HOME/Desktop/Trash
[09:58] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen, I found an app in synaptic called "Stress" that sounds like it'll tax out the system for faults, but it states that it won't give a preformance mark, which givs me half of my problem
[09:58] <intelikey> '
[09:59] <intelikey> and that's generic, should work for any user.
[10:00] <fyrzen> superpi is a "hardcore" CPU benchmarking programme, every overclocker uses it, it basicaly makes your CPU calculate the endless number pi
[10:01] <bharath> How do I change the locale for a particular user? Will setting LANG and LANGUAGE in .bash_profile be good enough?
[10:01] <fyrzen> i found it ran much faster in ubuntu than it did with windows and especially when gdm wasn't running
[10:01] <Ozman> please is someone can help me I'm sure someone coul...
[10:01] <Ozman> d
[10:01] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen: ah, it in synaptic? or do I google it?
[10:02] <intelikey> bharath only for bash shells  i'd think.
[10:02] <fyrzen> google it, it requires no installation, just extract it and sh superpi from the superpi folder
[10:02] <intelikey> id say look into system/preferances/languages  for the gui end of the....
[10:02] <intelikey> or something simular ^
[10:03] <duomaxwell> Fryzen: good, I'm mainly a Mac user, I've been spoiled by drag and drop installs lol
[10:03] <bharath> intelikey: thanks. will try that
[10:03] <kassah_> I've got a T40 laptop... I attach a basic Logitech USB Optical Mouse to it...
[10:04] <kassah_> but when X seems to interpet clicks that are longer than an instant as multiple clicks
[10:04] <Gatorade> Hello?
[10:04] <Gatorade> I need help with the live cd
[10:04] <Gatorade> I can't get it to run
[10:04] <Wilf> join #xorg
[10:04] <intelikey>  ;system/preferances/mouse    is there such a thing ?
[10:05] <Wilf> oops
[10:05] <Wilf> forgot the / heh
[10:05] <intelikey> kassah ;system/preferances/mouse    is there such a thing ?
[10:05] <Gatorade> Who do I talk to for help with the ubuntu boot?
[10:05] <pablo928>  Gatorade-do you have the bios set to boot grom cdrom?
[10:05] <kassah_> intelikey, yes
[10:05] <Gatorade> yes I do Pablo
[10:05] <Gatorade> It just stays there
[10:06] <kassah_> intelikey, if I hold down the mouse button over the light bulb it turns on
[10:06] <Gatorade> Apperantly I have nothing to open the ISO file with
[10:06] <Gatorade> I want to run it as a live cd and not change my desktop
[10:06] <kassah_> intelikey, if I keep doing it for say... 5 seconds... it turns it back off
[10:07] <Gatorade> and it won't boot
[10:07] <Gatorade> it just freezes
[10:07] <pablo928>  Gatorade-no error?
[10:07] <Pablo> pablo928 name is pablo928 not pablo
[10:07] <intelikey> try adjusting the time kassah_
[10:07] <Gatorade> I burnt the iso file as a bootable disk using Nero
[10:07] <Pablo> kthx
[10:07] <Gatorade> no error pablo
[10:07] <Gatorade> oh
[10:07] <Gatorade> sorry
[10:07] <Pablo> :P
[10:08] <Gatorade> good luck getting me to say that heh
[10:08] <pablo928> Pablo-there is a difference.
[10:08] <kassah_> hmm... seems to be fixed
[10:08] <intelikey> i used nero once.....
[10:08] <Gatorade> Well it burned fine it just won't open it
[10:09] <Gatorade> It won't run
[10:09] <chica> is there a place that can tell you step by step how to do the cd?
[10:09] <Gatorade> Is there a room that can actually help me??
[10:09] <pablo928> Pablo-I had the same problem using Nero before-never figured it out
[10:10] <_null> Is there a guide how to mirror an ubuntu repo?
[10:10] <chica> what do you use, then?
[10:10] <Gatorade> What should I use to burn the cd?
[10:10] <duomaxwell> Ok then, later guys.
[10:11] <Gatorade> ok just point me to the room that will help me
[10:11] <intelikey> Gatorade what os do you have ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> Windows
[10:11] <intelikey> ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> I'm not trying to install it
[10:11] <intelikey> 95 ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> WIndows xp
[10:11] <Gatorade> no
[10:11] <intelikey> xp ?
[10:11] <intelikey> ok
[10:11] <Gatorade> I wanna see what it is
[10:12] <chica> lol
[10:12] <nurfe> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051223/SECOND23/TPScience/
[10:12] <Gatorade> I might want to use it as my os I just can't get it to run as a live cd
[10:12] <Gatorade> I hate Windows
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, what program did you use to burn it?
[10:12] <Gatorade> Nero
[10:13] <Gatorade> I made a bootable data disc
[10:13] <intelikey> did you get the iso with LIVE in the name or the one with INSTALL in the name Gatorade ?
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, there's an image burning option with Nero
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Use that
[10:13] <Gatorade> Live Intel
[10:13] <Gatorade> Thank you Sweetest!
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> It's in the backup section
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> No problem ;)
[10:13] <intelikey> ok just burn the iso to disk.
[10:13] <chica> lol
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, if you have CD-RW's lying around use those to burn stuff like Live CD's
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> They work too ;)
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> And, you can erase them and just use them for other things
[10:14] <Gatorade> thanks :)
[10:14] <intelikey> and Gatorade early welcome to linux.  i know you'll like it.     'you already dislike xp....'  :)
[10:14] <burning_bronx> Gatorade, either of gnomebaker, graveman or nerolinux
[10:14] <burning_bronx> thought the last is not free
[10:14] <burning_bronx> you can also use the CLI tool for burning - cdrecord
[10:14] <chica> lol no kidding
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, yeah, I've been a user of Windows for 10 years. I switched to Linux not 5 days ago.. after I figured it out I like it so much better
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> And I'm using the 64-bit version, too. It's even less compatible with stuff out there
[10:15] <Gatorade> wow thats awesome!
[10:15] <Wilf> if i plug my second monitor into the port that my first monitor uses, and the screen shows, then the hozizonal sync and vertical refresh rate settings for my first monitor will work with my second monitor too yeah?
[10:15] <chica> that's cool
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, we'll be here to help you set it up ;)
[10:15] <Gatorade> thanks
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> No problem, it's a bit of a hassle at the beginning. Once you get going though, it's really easy.
[10:16] <intelikey> burning_bronx in linux don't forget k3b and gnomebacker and xcdroast.
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, question, is there any other GUI's out there besides GNOME and KDE?
[10:16] <intelikey> nautilus cdburner
[10:16] <burning_bronx> intelikey, I first mentioned gnomebaker
[10:16] <burning_bronx> k3b is Qt
[10:17] <burning_bronx> which is for the kubuntu channel
[10:17] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:17] <Gatorade> Sweet do you mean Back it up?
[10:17] <martii> burning_bronx: is gnomebaker able to make dvd backup ?
[10:17] <Nei> can someone tell me how to use sudo Parameter_List please?
[10:17] <martii> I mean movie
[10:17] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, whatcha mean?
[10:17] <burning_bronx> I think it is
[10:17] <kassah_> I followed the upgrade guide to get to warty... but it never upgraded gnome...
[10:17] <Gatorade> I have a program in Nero called Back it up I don't see anything called back up
[10:17] <kassah_> is there a way I can upgrade gnome to 2.12 manually?
[10:18] <burning_bronx> I use neroLinux tho
[10:18] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, oh, no.. there should be an Image-burning option.
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, load Nero Express
[10:18] <intelikey> SweetestSavage actually the gui is xorg and the desktop platforms are twm icewm ice xfce4 favwm blackbox fluxbox gnome kde and several others.
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, oh =)
[10:18] <_joey> what ubuntu is like ? Stable ?
[10:18] <Gatorade> Disk Image?
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, yep that's the one =)
[10:18] <burning_bronx> actually those mentioned aren't desktop platforms
[10:18] <Puptentac> Hello room. I'm a rank newbie getting ready to install my brand spanking new Ubuntu OS in a dual boot. Can I get a couple questions answered?
[10:18] <clayton> does anyone have a working backports repository for 5.04
[10:18] <dennis_> !tell _joey about breezy
[10:19] <mahangu__> _joey, yes very myuch
[10:19] <freemanen> what could be wrong if the computer hang with checking file system in the boot?
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, in the drop-down menu make sure you select the "All images and compilations" option or it won't show up
[10:19] <mahangu__> Puptentac, shoot
[10:19] <burning_bronx> some are desktop environements and others are window managers
[10:19] <Mez> clayton
[10:19] <_joey> mahangu__: many prebuilt packages ?
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, I like GNOME currently.. but, is there a resource where I could have a look at all of them?
[10:19] <dennis_> _joey, you get that?
[10:19] <dennis_> I'm not good with the bot commands :/
[10:19] <clayton> Mez?
[10:19] <intelikey> env./platform  i'm not a computer science major you know.
[10:19] <Mez> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:19] <mahangu__> _joey, many, many
[10:19] <_joey> how manyu ?:)
[10:20] <Puptentac> Hi mahangu. Main question is...I'm using two drives. One drive is set up with windows, the other is NTFS partitioned. what is the best way to put ubuntu on the system?
[10:20] <Shaka_Zulu> !mp3
[10:20] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:20] <ssdo> hello, i need help on reboot issue on toshiba laptop...
[10:20] <Gatorade> Thanks Sweetest savage its working!
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, no problem =)
[10:20] <burning_bronx> !wm
[10:20] <ubotu> burning_bronx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:20] <intelikey> SweetestSavage google linux desktops
[10:20] <burning_bronx> sigh
[10:20] <burning_bronx> Seveas, there should be an entry for window managers >.>
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, okay thank you
[10:20] <dennis_> Does anyone know how much disk space breezy uses on a fresh install?
[10:20] <clayton> thanks Mez
[10:21] <kassah_> any ideas on how to upgrade to gnome-2.12?
[10:21] <intelikey> dennis_ about 1.4g
[10:21] <_joey> mahangu__: run apt-cache search . | wc -l
[10:21] <dennis_> k sweet
[10:21] <kassah_> or at least gnome-panel 2.12?
[10:21] <intelikey> default install    or 300m server install
[10:21] <mahangu__> Puptentac, you can partition during hte install or use parition magic in windows
[10:21] <_joey> ubuntu sounds like fun but it has a smal problem
[10:21] <mahangu__> _joey, what? YOU asked, not I
[10:21] <burning_bronx> you can get a smaller install with xubuntu or alternative wm/de
[10:21] <dennis_> yeah
[10:22] <Puptentac> mahangu, the second drive should be set as a master as well as the windows drive?
[10:22] <dennis_> I want to try XFCE or whatever it is
[10:22] <intelikey> dennis_ server install is 'without X'
[10:22] <_joey> mahangu__: can you run the command and it will show you the number of prebuilt packages then you tell me because i don't have this installed yet
[10:22] <dennis_> i know
[10:22] <mahangu__> Puptentac, it doesn't matter - linux can boot logical partitions too
[10:22] <burning_bronx> dennis_, then do a server install and after it do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:22] <mahangu__> !packages
[10:22] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <mahangu__> _joey, see above
[10:22] <burning_bronx> that would get you a working X with Xfce4
[10:22] <dennis_> k
[10:22] <_joey> okay
[10:23] <Puptentac> Great, so basically insert the CD and go for it. Well, I'm off to try. Thanks. I'm sure you'll see me in here!!!
[10:23] <dennis_> Hmm...upgrading to breezy is a pain :/
[10:23] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, good luck, friend
[10:23] <burning_bronx> :)
[10:23] <intelikey> dennis_ name is xfce4      apt-get install xfce4
[10:23] <burning_bronx> dennis_, why?
[10:23] <burning_bronx> intelikey, there is a meta-package
[10:23] <_joey> the problem with ubuntu is its name..it has too many 'u' in it
[10:23] <burning_bronx> xubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <dennis_> takes forever to do it over the net :P
[10:23] <Puptentac> I'm excited. Looks great and and I'm incredibly sick of Microshaft. Step one to freedom! :D
[10:23] <burning_bronx> lol
[10:23] <mahangu__> dennis_, get a CD and do it from there
[10:23] <dennis_> I'm upgrading from hoary to breezy right now :/
[10:23] <intelikey> burning_bronx i never use them.
[10:23] <mahangu__> Puptentac, go for it! but back your data up first
[10:24] <burning_bronx> intelikey, that's you and me
[10:24] <burning_bronx> but normal people "should" use them
[10:24] <dennis_> Puptentac, thats how I started with linux...although i started with freeBSD first
[10:24] <burning_bronx> easier to get it workin'
[10:24] <intelikey> lol    so i'm not normal eh
[10:24] <Puptentac> Already did. Basically I just did a clean install of Windoze so everything is all on one, small partition anyway.
[10:25] <dennis_> Whats a good audioplayer besides rythmnbox and that will match the gnome theme (No Amarok)
[10:25] <Puptentac> I've looked at a ton of live CD's. Ubuntu seems to be the best of the bunch.
[10:25] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, unless you are using windows for some specific job you're unable to do under linux you won't need it
[10:25] <cention> Are there any good alternatives to Nautilus..?
[10:25] <Puptentac> I'm sure, but call it a crutch for now...
[10:25] <burning_bronx> besides you can always get to work windows apps under linux
[10:26] <bnD> hiya, is there any way to not allow certain users to use rm -rf?
[10:26] <intelikey> but burning_bronx i never yet met anyone that was normal.   only those not as 'un-normal' as me YET         key word being yet.
[10:26] <dennis_> Whats a good audioplayer besides rythmnbox and that will match the gnome theme (No Amarok)
[10:26] <burning_bronx> intelikey, we're all geeks here - what do you expect?
[10:26] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:26] <ubuntun00b> I only aspire to geekness
[10:26] <intelikey> <,<
[10:26] <burning_bronx> dennis_, beep-media-player
[10:26] <mahangu__> dennis_, no theme, but I love xmms
[10:26] <Puptentac> I've been training myself by getting used to firefox, openoffice, etc.
[10:26] <MalfoeForecast> gxine is ok
[10:26] <Gatorade> Firefox rules!
[10:26] <cention> is there anything better than nautilus out there.?
[10:27] <dennis_> Before firefox, what browser did most linux users use?
[10:27] <Puptentac> I love fox and opera.
[10:27] <cention> i really find it...whack to be honest
[10:27] <chica> lol
[10:27] <burning_bronx> beep-media-player is xmms just GTK2
[10:27] <djdarkman_> hy ,what firewall do you reccomend?
[10:27] <chica> I'm loving zone alarm
[10:27] <fli7e> dennis, konqueror was mine, but im a gnome fan now
[10:27] <Puptentac> firewall is a good question.
[10:27] <intelikey> WOW I WAS JUST CALLED A GEEK.     HUSTON I HAVE ARIVED.
[10:27] <ubuntun00b> I just installed ubuntu, but I can't seem to get my modem or my WLAN configured
[10:27] <bnD> cention, i use bash.
[10:27] <djdarkman_> iz there zone alarm for linux?
[10:27] <burning_bronx> dennis_, Netscape owned back in the day
[10:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:27] <cention> good point..
[10:27] <chica> god I have to get used to a whole new world
[10:27] <chica> does Opera run in linux?
[10:27] <dennis_> Is there an audio player that resembles Itunes's setup for linux?
[10:27] <bnD> djdarkman_, firestarter
[10:27] <Puptentac> I hope there is no zonealarm for linux. I HATE it...
[10:27] <burning_bronx> chica, it does but is Qt based
[10:27] <djdarkman_> chica, yes
[10:27] <deFrysk> !opera
[10:28] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:28] <Gatorade> chica you mean a brave new world chica ;)
[10:28] <chica> lol no kidding Gator
[10:28] <fli7e> ubunton00b, you will probably need something called ndiswrapper
[10:28] <fli7e> ...which is a scary program
[10:28] <ubuntun00b> I know what kind of modem it is, and I have some sort of shell script thats supposd to install the driver for my modem, but Im unsure of how to go about using it
[10:28] <Puptentac> Great, I'm happy if I can run opera. Got a feeling i'm gonna be tossing XP pretty soon...:D
[10:28] <burning_bronx> chica, there is of course firefox - the default ubuntu browser
[10:28] <burning_bronx> it's cool
[10:28] <chica> I use it now, burning
[10:28] <chica> and I Love it
[10:28] <djdarkman_> bnD, 1 problem ,my apache server does`nt run with firestarter ,cause it`s bloking it
[10:28] <dennis_> Is there an audio player that resembles Itunes's setup for linux?
[10:28] <burning_bronx> learn to love the penguin people ;)
[10:28] <mrkoje> Gatorade,  djdarkman_  you need to unblock it
[10:28] <Gatorade> Firefox extensions are the coolest thing in the world
[10:28] <chica> hehe
[10:28] <bnD> djdarkman_, whats blocking what?
[10:28] <intelikey> serf raw
[10:28] <Gatorade> ?
[10:29] <djdarkman_> mrkoje,where?
[10:29] <Gatorade> blocked what?
[10:29] <dennis_> Noone knows of one?
[10:29] <Puptentac> Yeah, FF rules, but I have problems with it in windows on this machine. Minor but irritating.
[10:29] <clayton> Mez, are you sure that repository has everything?
[10:29] <clayton> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:29] <burning_bronx> dennis_, I don't know iTunes therefore I don't really know >.>
[10:29] <intelikey> go commando  w3b
[10:29] <chica> I hate itunes so dunno
[10:29] <mrkoje> applications >> system tools >> firestarter
[10:29] <dennis_> lol
[10:29] <dennis_> Hmm
[10:29] <mahangu__> clayton, get the .deb and install it
[10:29] <djdarkman_> bnD, firestarter blockes people from viewing the webpage from my apache server
[10:29] <ubuntun00b> I love FF, but it always seemed to kill my DNS in windows
[10:29] <mahangu__> !w32codecs
[10:29] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:29] <fli7e> alright, my question: where do i get quake 2 for linux. google search yields no useful hits
[10:29] <dennis_> Is there a way to get amarok to run in gnome..under a gnome theme?
[10:29] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, FF's the default browser for Ubuntu
[10:29] <mahangu__> ClayGx, ^^
[10:30] <intelikey> !amarok
[10:30] <ubotu> I heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[10:30] <Puptentac> One other question to toss out here. What size partitions should I use. For ubuntu and the fat32 swap?
[10:30] <Dipper> where do I go to talk about dapper? Specifically, why a theme of mines has a glossy over shine... :(
[10:30] <burning_bronx> Dipper, you can talk about dapper here
[10:30] <dennis_> So far I have only got it to run with a kde theme
[10:30] <dennis_> So it looks like shit on my desktop
[10:30] <dennis_> Gnome + KDE = No go.
[10:30] <bnD> djdarkman_, so allow the ports you need to be allowed
[10:30] <cention> why does totem suck so badly
[10:30] <mahangu__> Puptentac, swap is not fat32, it is swap. and ubuntu, give it 4 gig or so? leave some room for apps. 2.5gig or so should do for th ebase
[10:30] <Puptentac> Burning, I know. I have played at length with the live cd.
[10:30] <Gatorade> Everyone who hates Microsoft raise their hands!!
[10:31] <burning_bronx> dennis_, there is qtconfig to fix proggs that use Qt
[10:31] <mahangu__> cention, we all ask that. use xine
[10:31] <djdarkman_> bnD, where can i allow ports in firestarter?
[10:31] <chica> so we can smell your pits
[10:31] <dennis_> !xine
[10:31] <ubotu> dennis_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:31] <Gatorade> erm
[10:31] <intelikey> dennis_ hmmm odd
[10:31] <djdarkman_> ohh i see
[10:31] <Puptentac> thanks mahangu. I'm off. Thanks a ton all!!!
[10:31] <chica> lol
[10:31] <Gatorade> You microsoft love you
[10:31] <dennis_> 27% done for breezy update :/
[10:31] <Gatorade> heh
[10:31] <Dipper> burning_bronx, I have the stronglooks theme and it doesn't look anything like how it looked on Breezy. In Dapper the theme has a real glossy look. It is really ugly... Do you know what happened?
[10:31] <chica> ooooh bill
[10:31] <fli7e> on dialup, dennis?
[10:31] <dennis_> No
[10:31] <Gatorade> lol
[10:31] <burning_bronx> Dipper, is it a default theme?
[10:31] <burning_bronx> lemme check
[10:31] <bnD> djdarkman_, try going to your terminal and typing: man firestarter
[10:31] <dennis_> Going at 284K :/
[10:31] <fli7e> its only 18 megs orso
[10:31] <fli7e> just start?
[10:31] <dennis_> hmm
[10:32] <dennis_> Yeah
[10:32] <ubuntun00b> ok as I understand it...the ndiswrapper file allows me to use a windows driver under *nix correct?
[10:32] <fli7e> gotcha
[10:32] <dennis_> Hmm
[10:32] <Dipper> burning_bronx, no, a theme I downloaded from www.gnome-look.org
[10:32] <dennis_> I'm updating all my packages though
[10:32] <dennis_> 45m left :/
[10:32] <fli7e> oh, i thought you meant for the kernel update only
[10:32] <dennis_> lol
[10:32] <dennis_> no
[10:32] <dennis_> The whole thing :p
[10:32] <dennis_> I didn't have a spare disk to put the breezy install on
[10:33] <dennis_> So i had to use my 5.04 disk that i got in the mail :/
[10:33] <Dipper> burning_bronx, the same theme on Breezy is nice. On Dapper, it is overly glossy... The controls are ugly :'(
[10:33] <pablo928>  dennis- you must have broadband
[10:33] <dennis_> Yup
[10:33] <dennis_> Why?
[10:33] <dennis_> It would probally take a few days on Dailup
[10:33] <burning_bronx> Dipper, looks nice here
[10:33] <pablo928>  dennis- i think so
[10:33] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:33] <burning_bronx> bit too dark eh?
[10:34] <dennis_> I heard quake 2 is free for linux now?
[10:34] <dennis_> !quake2
[10:34] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dennis_
[10:34] <dennis_> Rofl
[10:34] <dennis_> !quake
[10:34] <ubotu> dennis_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:34] <dennis_> lol this bot sucks
[10:34] <fli7e> quake 3 is free for everything
[10:34] <fli7e> source released
[10:34] <dennis_> lol
[10:34] <fli7e> why wouldnt quake 2 be
[10:34] <fli7e> thats why i ask
[10:34] <Dipper> burning_bronx, do you have StrongLooks? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=31365&file1=31365-1.jpeg&file2=&file3=&name=StrongLooks
[10:34] <jenda> that's cool - I didn't know that
[10:34] <burning_bronx> just downloaded it
[10:34] <dennis_> Didn't know that sorry
[10:34] <burning_bronx> and as I said
[10:34] <burning_bronx> looks normal
[10:35] <burning_bronx> just a bit darkish
[10:35] <Dipper> The picture looks exactly like what you see on your desktop now? The controls are not overly glossy?
[10:35] <ubuntun00b> :|
[10:35] <burning_bronx> I just changed it back
[10:35] <burning_bronx> lemme take a second view
[10:35] <dennis_> fli7e, do you know if a lot of people still play quake 3?
[10:35] <fli7e> quite a few
[10:36] <ubuntun00b> got 30 minutes left of juice to figure this out then im screwed
[10:36] <fli7e> its still a very popular comp game
[10:36] <HeartBT> fli7e, It's the lan game of choice at our house.
[10:36] <burning_bronx> Dipper, seems fine to me
[10:36] <burning_bronx> same as b4
[10:36] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:36] <Dipper> no way :(
[10:37] <Dipper> I'll take a screenshot
[10:37] <burning_bronx> kay
[10:37] <burning_bronx> waiting for the link
[10:37] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:37] <fli7e> HeartBT, yeah, i havent lanned in a while.... everyone plays friggin counterstrike
[10:37] <fli7e> terrible game
[10:37] <HeartBT> havn't got n2 that yet
[10:38] <fli7e> no kidding? do you use windows ever?
[10:38] <dennis_> i got source running under cedega a while ago
[10:38] <dennis_> Then my subscription ran out
[10:38] <dennis_> and it borked
[10:38] <HeartBT> yes, we have 2 windows pc's left in the house.  this one has a swappable hdd, since school forces me to use Office from time to time, and I just got the GF to switch to ubuntu yesterday.
[10:38] <dennis_> with a new update
[10:39] <Dipper> burning_bronx, look at my screenshot: http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot9ih.png
[10:39] <cention> I switched my entire family from windows to linux.
[10:39] <cention> Ubuntu specifically.
[10:40] <fli7e> i only recently started actually playing around with linux (non-gui linux), and am quickly falling in love
[10:40] <Dipper> the calculator on the right is the StrongLooks theme on Dapper right out of the box. The very first thing I changed on Dapper the second I installed it was the theme... That gloss is over kill and kills the theme :(
[10:40] <HeartBT> fli7e, she want's a strait ubuntu install, but I'm giving her a hidden dual boot.  she's a grad student, and be that she's gonna run into a MicorSoldout Professor too.
[10:41] <Smerdykov> someone give me ten reasons why ubuntu is > redhat
[10:41] <fli7e> HeartBT, couldn't she just use openoffice? they are for the most part compatible i thought
[10:41] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, no help, hav'net used redhat in at least 3-4 years, and then it was just too... uneasy.
[10:42] <deFrysk> Smerdykov, any flavour of linux is a matter of preference
[10:42] <Smerdykov> i'm trying to decide on whether ubuntu or redhat is better for someone who knows no C at all
[10:42] <fli7e> Smerdykov, ubuntu > redhat because of the online package distribution method. things are compiled on the fly in such a way that a very customizable system is attainable
[10:42] <Dipper> anybody know why dapper is uglifying some themes with an over kill gloss and blowned up bevels on controls? Anyone know how to get the Breezy controls back?
[10:42] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, what are you going to use it for?
[10:43] <Smerdykov> I just want to get rid of fucking windows
[10:43] <HeartBT> fli7e, I tried but there are some profs that want a certian formatting.  Last semester a prof used MSword commenting to proof our papers.  open office would'nt track changes very well.
[10:43] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, but what will you use linux for?
[10:43] <fli7e> Smerdykov, the only downside to that is that this makes ubuntu slightly impractical on a dialup internet connection
[10:43] <jenda> Smerdykov: language... and good for you. Ubuntu is best for new users.
[10:43] <Smerdykov> lame computer things= media, msn, browsing, gaming etc.
[10:43] <Smerdykov> I have 56k unfortunately :|
[10:43] <burning_bronx> jenda, actually ubuntu is not as user friendly as it seems ;)
[10:43] <jenda> Smerdykov: what connection do you have?
[10:43] <HeartBT> quick answer, why would k3b not see the full speed of my burner?
[10:43] <Smerdykov> I feel so olde schoole
[10:44] <Smerdykov> 56
[10:44] <jenda> burning_bronx: You're telling me?
[10:44] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, gaming is a bit harder under linux >.> to the point that you have to emulate most games
[10:44] <fli7e> Smerdykov, are you sure linux is right for you at all? whats the grudge against windows?
[10:45] <Smerdykov> Yeah, I was at my friend's house one time while he was trying to convince ubuntu that it wanted to let him play half life 2
[10:45] <Smerdykov> wasn't working
[10:45] <yannux_> hello everybody
[10:45] <Smerdykov> basically I just hear all about the superiority of linux and I'm really getting pissed off at windows
[10:45] <Smerdykov> I'm thinking I'm going to run a bootloader
[10:45] <eric_> use mac
[10:45] <fli7e> mac = not worth it
[10:45] <mrkoje> im switching all my computers to macs
[10:45] <burning_bronx> well Smerdykov as far as I know HL2 should run fine with cedega
[10:45] <Smerdykov> spent mucho grande cash on a homebuild that won't run os x
[10:45] <burning_bronx> is a matter of hardware too
[10:45] <Smerdykov> yeah
[10:45] <Gatorade> bbl
[10:45] <yannux_> does someone know how to remove somes modules at boot, wich are not ine /etc/modules    ?
[10:46] <mrkoje> linux stays for me... and of course for the servers
[10:46] <Smerdykov> well it was just a pain for him to install it all
[10:46] <yannux_> some*
[10:46] <eric_> yeah macs are nicer
[10:46] <mrkoje> the hardware is just damn nicer
[10:46] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I would say it's a matter of googling ;)
[10:46] <Smerdykov> I have a grudge against mac
[10:46] <chica> thanks for all the help guys
[10:46] <mrkoje> you know mac osx even has VIM on it...
[10:46] <fli7e> eric, somebody once said to me "Name one thing my Mac can't do that your PC can".... i said "right click"
[10:46] <mrkoje> its just bsd...
[10:46] <Smerdykov> that term just seems so naughty...
[10:46] <mrkoje> so I think I will leave macosx on it
[10:46] <Smerdykov> but I have a grudge against macs because of OS 9
[10:47] <mrkoje> i was going to get the thinkpad x41 but I think i have fallen in love with the powerbook 12
[10:47] <HeartBT> ubuntu on mac!
[10:47] <eric_> lol 9.2 is my fav
[10:47] <Smerdykov> easy to use
[10:47] <eric_> oh yeah those are nice
[10:47] <HeartBT> I would like that little bity powerbook.
[10:47] <eric_> i'm a legacy person though
[10:47] <Smerdykov> until it's so out of date it reminds you of that simpson's episode with the first computer in the school computer lab
[10:48] <Smerdykov> anyway
[10:48] <eric_> whats out of date?
[10:48] <Smerdykov> OS 9
[10:48] <eric_> nah i dont have a prob with it
[10:48] <Smerdykov> it's just so dated
[10:48] <burning_bronx> okay enough with that
[10:48] <Smerdykov> can't compete
[10:48] <Smerdykov> won't run the right software
[10:48] <Smerdykov> the only computer that I hate more than the one I'm one right now is my old one with OS 9
[10:48] <eric_> neither does linux
[10:48] <Smerdykov> just kidding
[10:48] <Smerdykov> i love you baby
[10:48] <Smerdykov> <3
[10:49] <Smerdykov> (she'll hurt me)
[10:49] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, just put Ubuntu on dual-boot, use it for a week or two getting things to work right.
[10:49] <llukax> hi im trying to compile firmware and i'm getting an error "no such file: /usr/src/linux/.config"
[10:49] <HeartBT> no one got any thoughts on k3b burning at 4x?
[10:49] <burning_bronx> if you like it cool you've got a new os and you remove windoze
[10:49] <llukax> anyone seen that error before?
[10:49] <lucasvo> ubotu, tell lucasvo about java
[10:49] <Smerdykov> that sounds like a good plan in theory
[10:49] <Smerdykov> butttttttt
[10:49] <burning_bronx> what?
[10:49] <HeartBT> llukax, is that really the file name?  .config?
[10:49] <Smerdykov> A) with a dialup, getting ubuntu will be a rather magnanimous undertaking
[10:49] <llukax> yes
[10:50] <llukax> thats whats in the make file
[10:50] <Smerdykov> B) I really don't know how to set up the bootloader
[10:50] <fli7e> Smerdykov, maybe you should consider a Live distribution?
[10:50] <Smerdykov>  or linux...
[10:50] <fli7e> such as knoppix?
[10:50] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it's easy as hell with the ubuntu installer
[10:50] <Smerdykov> someone in #linuxhelp suggested ubuntu live
[10:50] <Smerdykov> ...the difference?
[10:50] <burning_bronx> !shipit
[10:50] <ubotu> somebody said shipit was For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[10:50] <HeartBT> llukax, confirm that's where the file is in terminal.
[10:50] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, check the link
[10:50] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:50] <llukax> the file doesnt exist
[10:50] <llukax> :P
[10:50] <llukax> i think im missing something
[10:51] <Smerdykov> checking...
[10:51] <fli7e> Smerdykov, live distros are basically an entire operating system that literally runs off a cd
[10:51] <burning_bronx> I'd give you some CDz - still haven't given all of them out
[10:51] <llukax> i installed the linux source package but that didnt werk either
[10:51] <burning_bronx> but you can order yourself some
[10:51] <Smerdykov> ah i see
[10:51] <Smerdykov> ok
[10:51] <Smerdykov> what about updates etc
[10:51] <fli7e> think of them as bootable DOS floppy, but with linux
[10:51] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there are lots of things limiting you in the live
[10:51] <burning_bronx> so I suggest dual-boot
[10:52] <llukax> was wondering if anyone knows what package i need to make this file
[10:52] <burning_bronx> better for learning
[10:52] <HeartBT> llukax, cd /usr/src/linux/  and then an ls, if it's not there, then there's the problem
[10:52] <Smerdykov> yeah I was leaning toward dual boot
[10:52] <llukax> well i should mention im on a ppc
[10:52] <llukax> the file isnt there either
[10:52] <fli7e> Smerdykov, i meant use the live distro to see if you like linux at all
[10:52] <burning_bronx> fli7e, he's seen it
[10:52] <fli7e> ah
[10:53] <HeartBT> llukax, then back up a step in your instructions, it' did'nt copy or the directory was'nt make.
[10:53] <llukax> just says make
[10:53] <fli7e> disregard then
[10:53] <llukax> its for midi
[10:53] <llukax> midi driver
[10:53] <Smerdykov> i have observed it
[10:53] <Smerdykov> I don't know ANY of the inner workings
[10:53] <llukax> i dont even have a /usr/src/linux
[10:53] <llukax> :/
[10:53] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, that's why this chan exists - to help people
[10:53] <burning_bronx> also there are the forums
[10:53] <HeartBT> llukax, that would be an issue.
[10:53] <burning_bronx> lots of useful info there
[10:53] <Smerdykov> <3
[10:53] <llukax> hmm
[10:54] <llukax> its a fresh copy
[10:54] <llukax> of ubuntu
[10:54] <HeartBT> llukax, do you NEED it?
[10:54] <llukax> unless you know another midi driver no
[10:54] <llukax> just trying to get my midi keyboard running
[10:54] <llukax> :D
[10:54] <Smerdykov> does ubuntu require updating?
[10:54] <Smerdykov> of rather large files or anything...?
[10:54] <HeartBT> llukax, sound is still a big mystery to me, I do not understand the sound workings.
[10:55] <llukax> hmm
[10:55] <llukax> i've gotten firmware to work on x86
[10:55] <llukax> but this is strange on a ppc
[10:55] <HeartBT> llukax, but I have compiled hardware before, and if it comes to a "does not exist" there's usually a problem with permissions or instructions.
[10:55] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, once a stable release is out it does not require updates as all versions of apps on it are frozen
[10:55] <llukax> hmmmmm
[10:55] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[10:55] <burning_bronx> only security updates (small) are available
[10:56] <llukax> even when i sudo it dont work
[10:56] <Smerdykov> excellent
[10:56] <llukax> so that would really be an issue
[10:56] <Smerdykov> what kind of software do these ubuntu discs come with?
[10:56] <Smerdykov> any media player...
[10:56] <Smerdykov> ?
[10:56] <HeartBT> llukax, what's the step before that one?
[10:56] <llukax> the instructions are very simple
[10:56] <llukax> it says "type make"
[10:56] <llukax> "if theres a problem fix it"
[10:56] <llukax> lol
[10:56] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there are media players
[10:56] <kaffeend> aloha again
[10:56] <HeartBT> llukax,  and that is the step issueing the error?
[10:57] <llukax> yes
[10:57] <burning_bronx> but there are lots of formats unsupported
[10:57] <llukax> make
[10:57] <burning_bronx> as they are not free
[10:57] <burning_bronx> and may lead to legal issues
[10:57] <HeartBT> llukax, what is b4 that one?
[10:57] <llukax> hold on i'll look for u
[10:57] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, about those formats read here
[10:57] <burning_bronx> !restrictedformats
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:57] <afief> How can i access the Terminal in 5.10???
[10:57] <burning_bronx> !freeformats
[10:57] <ubotu> methinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:57] <Smerdykov> curses
[10:57] <bimberi> afief: Applications -> Accessories
[10:58] <llukax> Compile
[10:58] <llukax> [10:58] <llukax> Just type `make`.
[10:58] <llukax> After all compilation succeeded, type:
[10:58] <llukax>  # cp usb-midi.o /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/usb ; depmod -a
[10:58] <kaffeend> can some1 plz tell me how to give myself root privelages to edit conf. files?
[10:58] <Smerdykov> I'm debating using VMware for media...
[10:58] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you can enable those formats
[10:58] <fli7e> haha @ terminal question... it took me so long to figure that out after switching from fedora
[10:58] <burning_bronx> or use free alternatives
[10:58] <HeartBT> llukax, yes, that is simple instructions.
[10:58] <dennis_> kaffeend, use sudo before your command
[10:58] <burning_bronx> so no biggie
[10:58] <burning_bronx> just a matter of asking
[10:58] <llukax> wait theres more
[10:58] <Smerdykov> oh I see
[10:58] <dennis_> so 'sudo command'
[10:58] <llukax> In RedHat, you may use
[10:58] <llukax>  # make -f Makefile.RedHat install
[10:58] <llukax> If you meet any errors, fix it.
[10:58] <Smerdykov> ^^^ignorance
[10:58] <dennis_> enter in your password and your good
[10:58] <kaffeend> dennis_ ah, in a terminal?
[10:58] <bimberi> fli7e: it took me a while after upgrading from ubuntu Hoary :P
[10:58] <llukax> and thats the end
[10:58] <afief> LOL:) i just switched from fedora too:)
[10:58] <dennis_> Yes
[10:58] <dennis_> kaffeend, yes
[10:59] <dennis_> also...
[10:59] <llukax> thers also a makefile.zaurus
[10:59] <dennis_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ but it's a text document
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ :P
[10:59] <dennis_> there is a way to setup a right click menu for editing files as root
[10:59] <llukax> .config would be invisible wouldnt it?
[10:59] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, have you made your ubuntu order?
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ oh cool
[10:59] <dennis_> so you can right click the file and select edit as root
[10:59] <HeartBT> llukax, yes it would be ls -a will list it.
[10:59] <Smerdykov> I registered an account but it hasn't sent me the registration email yet
[11:00] <kaffeend> but it has to be set up first?
[11:00] <llukax> k one sec
[11:00] <llukax> am i supposed to untar the source?
[11:00] <llukax> :/
[11:00] <HeartBT> llukax, yes.  untar it.
[11:00] <afief> so how do i get into terminal?:S in 5.04 it was under system tools, now it's nowhere
[11:00] <llukax> ok
[11:00] <llukax> one sec
[11:01] <kaffeend> dennis_ How do I open the file's properties via a terminal tho?
[11:01] <HeartBT> afief, it's under accessories
[11:01] <DjDarkman> http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:01] <bimberi> afief: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:01] <Smerdykov> does linux need new drivers?
[11:01] <afief> thanks people
[11:01] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, what you mean?
[11:02] <HeartBT> afief, np
[11:02] <Smerdykov> for hardware
[11:02] <afief> is there any easy way to get MPlayer? all the guides talk about compiling from source
[11:02] <Smerdykov> because that's what's making me want to switch OSs right now
[11:02] <Smerdykov> because my windows drivers refuse to work
[11:02] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it has almost anything driver-wise
[11:02] <burning_bronx> !drivers
[11:02] <ubotu> I heard drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <Smerdykov> something tells me I'm going to have to go through every piece of hardware i have
[11:02] <llukax> taking its time
[11:02] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:02] <llukax> :P
[11:02] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, sometimes you have the issue like llukax is going through, but now adays it's kinda rare.
[11:02] <Smerdykov> burning_bronx you are officially my new favorite person
[11:03] <llukax> ubuntu is great, this is the only prob i've had a year
[11:03] <Smerdykov> oh I see
[11:03] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, get a live cd.  it has most everydriver a regualr release will have, if it works your in, if not your out what?
[11:03] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:03] <Nei> does someone know how I can wake up my computer after suspend to ram?
[11:03] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there's autodetection for almost everything
[11:03] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:03] <thegladiator> how do i change the splash screen in ubutnu ?
[11:04] <burning_bronx> besides Smerdykov Ubuntu packages from shipit are two cds each packages - one install and one live
[11:04] <Smerdykov> I'm still rather worried I'm going to try and install ubuntu and it's going to involve a lot of coding...
[11:04] <burning_bronx> so if you get it you'll get it ;)
[11:04] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, no coding involved
[11:04] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:04] <Smerdykov> fuck that's good!
[11:04] <Smerdykov> will I EVER need to do any coding
[11:04] <burning_bronx> thought you do have to repartition your hard drive
[11:04] <Smerdykov> because everyone is always telling me I should learn c first
[11:04] <Smerdykov> eeee
[11:04] <burning_bronx> not coding rather using CLI
[11:04] <Smerdykov> that's what I thought
[11:04] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:04] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, I've not coded anything yet, and I've already got rid of metacity, and used Kwin under gnome for my window manager.
[11:05] <Smerdykov> oh speakinf of window managers, has anyone used enlightenment?
[11:05] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you have to learn not to fear the CLI as it's important >.>
[11:05] <Ozman> breezy tells me that my .dmrc file as wrong permissions and is being ignored.... however I've put 644, and the file is well owned by me.... would somebody knows what I should do ?
[11:05] <thegladiator> yeah me
[11:05] <burning_bronx> I have
[11:05] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:05] <bimberi> thegladiator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:05] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:05] <Smerdykov> my friend has it
[11:05] <Nei> Smerdykov, e is cool
[11:05] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, yes, I did, I like, but....  It's not what I need.  though you can make it look great!  it's just... not me.
[11:05] <thegladiator> bimberi, thanks
[11:05] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:05] <burning_bronx> true
[11:05] <bimberi> DjDarkman: thegladiator np :)
[11:06] <Smerdykov> well my graphics card is a fucking dorito so I doubt it would work on here...
[11:06] <bimberi> er, thegladiator np :)
[11:06] <Nei> even if you don't want e you could still use entrance to make a good look on login =)
[11:06] <dennis_> Fetched 529MB in 44m35s (198kB/s)
[11:06] <dennis_> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[11:06] <dennis_> w00t
[11:06] <Smerdykov> hmmm
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there is always the VESA driver >.>
[11:06] <Smerdykov> will I have to download a windows manager separately/
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, no
[11:06] <dennis_> Gnome comes stock :)
[11:06] <DjDarkman> I mean ,that can`t start gnome
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Ubuntu goes with metacity
[11:06] <Nei> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde
[11:06] <dennis_> brb updating to breezy
[11:06] <HeartBT> who posted that error?
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, they are all commiting the same error
[11:07] <burning_bronx> allow me to explain
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Gnome and KDE are desktop environments
[11:07] <llukax> hmm
[11:07] <burning_bronx> the window manager is something different
[11:07] <bimberi> DjDarkman: check if your .ICEauthority file is owned by root, if it is, "sudo rm" it - while you're at it, check if .Xauthority is similar
[11:07] <llukax> ok i untarred the source
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Gnome uses Metacity
[11:07] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[11:07] <llukax> but still no .config
[11:07] <llukax> :/
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I am using xfwm4 as my window manager in gnome
[11:08] <burning_bronx> and you can use openbox for example
[11:08] <Smerdykov> hmmm
[11:08] <HeartBT> llukax, I'm kinda at a loss.
[11:08] <llukax> heh me too >_<
[11:08] <burning_bronx> then of course this includes a fair share of command line
[11:08] <Smerdykov> ah
[11:08] <Smerdykov> see that's where I encounter problems...
[11:08] <burning_bronx> heh
[11:08] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, there is an easy way, but...
[11:08] <burning_bronx> most people have that
[11:08] <Smerdykov> one time I wrote the hello world program, but that's the extent of my knowledge with c
[11:08] <burning_bronx> see Smerdykov it's not that hard
[11:08] <burning_bronx> you just must not fear it
[11:09] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it's not coding or programming
[11:09] <llukax> wait
[11:09] <llukax> heh
[11:09] <llukax> /home/llukax
[11:09] <llukax> has a .config
[11:09] <Smerdykov> I've tried using the command line in windows
[11:09] <Smerdykov> but it's pretty much worthless
[11:09] <Kamping_Klaus> DOS shell? yeh
[11:09] <burning_bronx> the CLI of Linux is Powerful
[11:09] <burning_bronx> and yes that capital was intended
[11:09] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:09] <Smerdykov> I used the command line in OS X and had lots of fun
[11:09] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:10] <llukax> but it does want kernel source
[11:10] <burning_bronx> through the command line you can do almost anything from browsing the web through IRC to cd burning
[11:10] <burning_bronx> thought it's all text based ;)
[11:10] <burning_bronx> no GUI involved ~_~
[11:10] <Kamping_Klaus> funny that :)
[11:10] <fli7e> Smerdykov, the command line is what drives linux, it is the essence of what it means to have control. almost every gui function maps to a command line function, and learning at least the basic ones is (although it sounds nerdy) what makes linux fun.
[11:11] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:11] <Smerdykov> that's what I was trying to do in windows
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> burning_bronx: get twinn
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> gui for cli IIRC
[11:11] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, I run bitchx on the desktop, it's kinda cool, set the terminal transapent and it looks like I'm chatting on the desktop.
[11:11] <burning_bronx> as I said: CLI is Powerful
[11:11] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, it's all text irc.
[11:11] <burning_bronx> Kamping_Klaus, I have bitchx
[11:11] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:11] <andrea> #ubuntu-it
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> so?
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> ;)
[11:11] <afief> is there any easy way to get MPlayer? all the guides talk about compiling from source
[11:11] <burning_bronx> BitchX is the pwnz0rz
[11:11] <fli7e> irc is like multiplayer Notepad.
[11:12] <bimberi> ubotu tell afief about mplayer
[11:12] <Kamping_Klaus> afief: apt-get install mplayer-i386
[11:12] <burning_bronx> !tell afief about mplayer
[11:12] <burning_bronx> oops >.>
[11:12] <afief> :S it didn't show up in synaptic...
[11:12] <bimberi> :)
[11:12] <burning_bronx> afief, do you have universe repositories enabled?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> you have to enable those
[11:13] <burning_bronx> !universe
[11:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:13] <bimberi> afief:  you'll need to enable the multiverse repository - check that link ubotu sent you
[11:13] <Smerdykov> does ages of empires two make anybody else feel nostalgic?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I haven't played that in like what 4 years?
[11:13] <HeartBT> Is there ANYTHING on tv this time of night?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> it's noon here
[11:13] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:14] <Smerdykov> i just got my computer functioning enough to try and play it
[11:14] <afief> and what about MP3 playing?
[11:14] <Smerdykov> I had only played it at friends' before now
[11:14] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, prob. soaps on there.
[11:14] <burning_bronx> !restrictedformats
[11:14] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell afief about mp3
[11:14] <fli7e> 4:14 am here
[11:14] <burning_bronx> afief, chech the restricted formats link
[11:14] <Smerdykov> it's 1:14 here
[11:14] <Smerdykov> and there is still nothing on tv
[11:14] <Smerdykov> wait a second
[11:14] <Smerdykov> conan should be on for you
[11:14] <burning_bronx> omg people
[11:15] <burning_bronx> isn't there any porn for you?
[11:15] <burning_bronx> :X
[11:15] <afief> question: how do i get all of ubontu's knowledge database?:D
[11:15] <Smerdykov> my friend partitioned his hard drive to include his pr0n
[11:15] <fli7e> porn? im in newsgroups right now...
[11:15] <burning_bronx> afief, you don't - you ask what you need and we tell you so you don't get lost
[11:15] <burning_bronx> :)
[11:15] <bimberi> afief: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[11:15] <Smerdykov> NEWSGROUP PORN
[11:15] <fli7e> :D
[11:15] <Smerdykov> YOU'RE SICK
[11:15] <fli7e> not that porn.
[11:15] <Kamping_Klaus> lol
[11:15] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:15] <burning_bronx> you're going offtopic
[11:15] <burning_bronx> this is support
[11:16] <HeartBT> oops, yeah, sorry.
[11:16] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:17] <Smerdykov> i'm still waiting for this damn notification email from that link you gave me
[11:17] <fli7e> speaking of newsgroups, what is the official ubuntu newsgroup?
[11:17] <Kamping_Klaus> hi me :)
[11:17] <fli7e> !newsgroup
[11:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, fli7e
[11:18] <fli7e> nobody knows?
[11:18] <burning_bronx> fli7e, I thhink there is none
[11:18] <ossie> hi canyone tell me how to enable hyperthreading on ubuntu
[11:18] <burning_bronx> there are forums, mailing lists and IRC
[11:19] <Smerdykov> how does ubuntu stay in business by mailing away free discs?
[11:19] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, you paly with dapper yet?
[11:19] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, been using dapper since it started
[11:19] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, they make money on support and enterprise solutions.
[11:19] <Smerdykov> ah I see
[11:19] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, and....?  fairly stable with cd2?
[11:19] <Smerdykov> I was just curious
[11:20] <burning_bronx> no major breakage yet
[11:20] <burning_bronx> even with new X
[11:20] <burning_bronx> and that cutting edge kernel >.>
[11:20] <burning_bronx> wicked ~_~;
[11:20] <fli7e> HeartBT, by selling there souls to the linux devils. i mean devels.
[11:20] <ossie> hi canyone tell me how to enable hyperthreading on ubuntu
[11:20] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:20] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, kewl  Now, you were there for the hoary>breezy upgrade, was it a reinstall like situation or did it upgrade to stable ok.
[11:20] <HeartBT> fli7e, lol
[11:21] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, I haven't done a fresh install since hoary
[11:21] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:21] <aidee> hey cool: there's an ubuntu channel too!
[11:21] <HeartBT> ossie, afraid that is way over my head.
[11:21] <ossie> np HeartBT
[11:21] <burning_bronx> which reminded me I haven't had my daily share of dapper updates
[11:21] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <burning_bronx> oops >.>
[11:21] <burning_bronx> that was for console
[11:21] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:21] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, So maybe I should have not wasted the time dl'ing Kububu breezy and just have done dapper?
[11:22] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, using dapper may break your system fatally
[11:22] <burning_bronx> if you want to try backup your home and install
[11:22] <burning_bronx> I am just saying I haven't had any serious issues to date
[11:22] <HeartBT> I'm right now on my "spare" hdd.  it's not crucial.
[11:22] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:22] <burning_bronx> oops
[11:22] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:22] <burning_bronx> wrong window again <.<
[11:22] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:22] <Smerdykov> nice shootin' tex
[11:23] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:23] <aidee> hey, here's a freenode question:
[11:23] <aidee> if you're the only person in a channel, aren't you supposed to have channel operator status?
[11:23] <burning_bronx> well I have the kind of itchy finger
[11:23] <Smerdykov> is there a list of linux command line commands somewhere that explains what they do in depth
[11:23] <burning_bronx> aidee, you are of course unless the cahnnels registered
[11:23] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, you find it, let me know.
[11:23] <aidee> ooh
[11:23] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there is man pages for each command line
[11:23] <aidee> how do i make a new channel?
[11:23] <ossie> hi im using the i386 kernel on a dual cpu xeon machine, would this result in slowness??
[11:24] <burning_bronx> still you wouldn't need the majority if you're the GUI type
[11:24] <Smerdykov> man page?
[11:24] <Smerdykov> ...
[11:24] <Smerdykov> GUI...?
[11:24] <fli7e> man = manual
[11:24] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, man cat, man ls, man "you name the command"  like a little manual.
[11:24] <fli7e> terminal command
[11:24] <burning_bronx> you type "man commandname" in command line and you get a manual for the command
[11:24] <Smerdykov> oh i see!
[11:24] <burning_bronx> GUI = Graphical User Interface
[11:24] <burning_bronx> IE the windows you use
[11:24] <Smerdykov> that's handy
[11:24] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, yeah, like he siad.
[11:25] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[11:25] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:25] <Smerdykov> that's me
[11:25] <Smerdykov> hate to admit it
[11:25] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, it's VERY handy.  Escpecially when your as short on memory as I am.
[11:25] <Smerdykov> My name's smerdkov, and I'm a GUI *Bursts into tears*
[11:25] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you will have GUI for most of the stuff
[11:25] <silverton> how do I get a media player plugin for firefox?
[11:25] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, so what? that's the point of having a desktop right?
[11:25] <burning_bronx> to use the gui
[11:25] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:26] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:26] <Smerdykov> bronx are you a L337 H4x0r?
[11:26] <burning_bronx> no I am not
[11:26] <burning_bronx> I didn't do anything of that >.>
[11:26] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, if there is a gui option for something, use it, why not?  You might be picked on by the long haired sandal wearing unix geeks, but..... look at em.
[11:26] <Smerdykov> hmm
[11:26] <burning_bronx> don't believe them <.<
[11:26] <Smerdykov> If I were you I would definitely use my powers for evil...
[11:27] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:27] <Smerdykov> unix geeks
[11:27] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:27] <burning_bronx> I am just an average PC geek helping out random people
[11:27] <Smerdykov> does anyone know qdizzle
[11:27] <burning_bronx> so yes I am weird
[11:27] <burning_bronx> but I am not a hacker
[11:27] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, is that a snoop dog song?
[11:27] <Smerdykov> no he's this guy
[11:27] <burning_bronx> haven't read anything bout hacking since they arrested gigabyte
[11:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:27] <fli7e> lol
[11:27] <Smerdykov> who is like
[11:27] <Smerdykov> a figurehead for internet addiction
[11:27] <thegladiator> what is metacity themes ?
[11:27] <thegladiator> how do i install it on ubuntu ?
[11:27] <Smerdykov> what was he arrested for/
[11:28] <burning_bronx> it was she
[11:28] <burning_bronx> and she was arrested for virus writing
[11:28] <fli7e> is she single?
[11:28] <fli7e> lol
[11:28] <HeartBT> alright, I have to scoot.  hopefully I will be back up in a short.  Wish me luck, I'm going in.
[11:28] <burning_bronx> she was not at the time
[11:28] <burning_bronx> after her arrest lots of european hackers have been arrested as well
[11:28] <fli7e> HeartBT, later
[11:28] <burning_bronx> police got cockier
[11:28] <Smerdykov> hmm
[11:28] <burning_bronx> anyway
[11:28] <HeartBT> she may not even now, jail provides "closeness"
[11:28] <Smerdykov> and now the million dollar question
[11:28] <Smerdykov> was she hot
[11:29] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, there is a serious media blackout about her
[11:29] <thegladiator> can someone temme about metacity ?
[11:29] <burning_bronx> besides the arrest nothing is mentioned
[11:29] <thegladiator> theme ?
[11:29] <Smerdykov> bronx you better help this guy oot
[11:29] <Smerdykov> candian stylee
[11:29] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, what exactly do you need?
[11:29] <thegladiator> i was wondering what is metacity theme
[11:29] <HeartBT> thegladiator, metacity is the window manager for gnome, the theme for metacity is how the WINDOWs will look
[11:30] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, is correct
[11:30] <burning_bronx> you can find metacity themes here www.gnome-look.org
[11:30] <burning_bronx> !themes
[11:30] <HeartBT> ok, now really, I have to scoot.  I'll pop in when I reboot.
[11:30] <HeartBT> cya
[11:30] <thegladiator> thanks . i thought it was a seperate enitity which had a diff look for gnome
[11:30] <burning_bronx> l8r
[11:30] <andrea> ed2k is not a registered protocol: amule     ????
[11:31] <thegladiator> there aint not such "thing" by which you could completely modify the panels look , or am i wrong ?
[11:31] <b0xy> there should be a gallery of all female *nix geeks that includes, age/location/hottness rating/photo/how freaky they are in bed
[11:31] <thegladiator> not just the color i mean
[11:31] <Smerdykov> is it a bad sign that I reconfigured my logitech button on my keyboard to open mIRC?
[11:31] <b0xy> along with contact info
[11:31] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, there is
[11:31] <Smerdykov> AGREED
[11:31] <burning_bronx> gtk themes
[11:31] <burning_bronx> you can find those at gnome-look.org as well
[11:31] <yatesy> burning_bronx: freebsdgirl :P
[11:31] <burning_bronx> aim for gtk2
[11:31] <xenex> Anyone here know how to make a NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card work?
[11:32] <yatesy> damn b0xy i meant
[11:32] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, does that change the color mostly  ? and the icons in the panel ?
[11:32] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i have used many gtk 2.x themes
[11:32] <b0xy> yatesy: ?
[11:32] <yatesy> b0xy: google freebsdgirl :P
[11:32] <shwag> anyway to turn off the system beep in gnome-terminal ?
[11:32] <burning_bronx> a theme consists of a two parts - the gtk theme and the icon theme
[11:32] <b0xy> ah
[11:32] <burning_bronx> you can download icon packages at gnome-look.org
[11:32] <andrea> why when i refresh the server list i have: ed2k is not a registered protocol in amule?
[11:32] <burning_bronx> actually you can download anything gnome-look related there
[11:33] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:33] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, yeah i have been there , but i was wondering if there is something that modifies the panel looks completely
[11:33] <llukax> well
[11:33] <llukax> it just wanted the headers
[11:33] <llukax> >_<
[11:33] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, a different WM?
[11:33] <llukax> now its got a gcc error which shouldnt be hard to fix
[11:33] <burning_bronx> :O
[11:33] <thegladiator> :o not exactly . but a diff panel look , i have tried out kdexfce but non looks good as gnome
[11:34] <Ozman> I have this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91455 problem, but the solution proposed does not work, is someone can help me ?
[11:34] <thegladiator> kde is not bad for a change but gnome is better simpler
[11:34] <burning_bronx> well either scout the web for a suitable theme or learn how to theme
[11:34] <thegladiator> the latter ! ;o
[11:34] <dennis_> Hey guys
[11:35] <Smerdykov> hola dennis
[11:35] <dennis_> Can anyone help me with a problem that im having with my dvd drive in breezy?
[11:35] <dennis_> :/
[11:35] <burning_bronx> dennis_, what exactly is the problem?
[11:35] <Smerdykov> I think bronx is your guy...
[11:35] <dennis_> For some reason...when i insert a dvd that I burned into my drive
[11:35] <b0xy> yatesy: I sort of meant good looking nix females
[11:35] <dennis_> it comes up as a blank disk
[11:35] <b0xy> but whatever
[11:35] <dennis_> but when I reboot gnome
[11:35] <dennis_> it shows up as a data disk and shows me my files
[11:35] <dennis_> :/
[11:36] <burning_bronx> that happened just once?
[11:36] <dennis_> Every time
[11:36] <Ozman> anyone ? your $home/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from beeing saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission
[11:36] <thegladiator> hey where can i have  music discussion besides #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:36] <LFA> hi all
[11:36] <burning_bronx> btw sometimes disks need to cool down - I've seen it happen
[11:36] <New2Linux> Looking for help running scripts. Using bash, file is in current directory, but I keep getting not found?
[11:36] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:36] <dennis_> What do you mean burning_bronx ?
[11:36] <dennis_> it needs to cool down?
[11:36] <yatesy> b0xy: ;P
[11:37] <yatesy> if you find any let me know ;)
[11:37] <burning_bronx> as in take em out of the drive and wait a sec b4 puttin' em back in
[11:37] <Nikusan> I've got some mp3 problems... The sound is really bad, muddy, slightly distorted, etc and the bass bottoms out. If it rules anything out, the files play fine in windows. Any advice?
[11:37] <burning_bronx> that is hardly the problem tho
[11:37] <DRAGON_Ultra> what dvd burner you have
[11:37] <b0xy> my cousin uses Ubuntu to play with
[11:37] <dennis_> Um
[11:37] <dennis_> Don't really know :/
[11:37] <llukax> getting awfully close here
[11:37] <llukax> :D
[11:37] <silverton> Nikusan, I have the same problem, but I just live with it, since I have a windows box to do all my mp3 playing with a creative audigy 2 ^_^
[11:37] <dennis_> I don't remember, i knew at the time i bought it
[11:38] <DRAGON_Ultra> k
[11:38] <burning_bronx> or maybe it's your drive playing tricks
[11:38] <dennis_> lol
[11:38] <burning_bronx> mine has trouble reading some DVDs from time to time
[11:38] <kaffeend|away> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <dennis_> This has always happened with ubuntu though
[11:38] <Raux> hello
[11:38] <Smerdykov> hey bronx, what is it going to take to set up a bootloading system?
[11:38] <fli7e> what is a really badass screen saver
[11:38] <burning_bronx> but then after time I insert the same dvd and it works
[11:38] <fli7e> that wont kill my videocard
[11:38] <silverton> kaffeend|away, he can play them
[11:38] <silverton> they just sound like crap
[11:38] <silverton> I have the same problem
[11:38] <dennis_> it never happens in windows burning_bronx
[11:38] <dennis_> just in ubuntu
[11:38] <burning_bronx> i see
[11:38] <Raux> I have a little problem with ubuntu 5.10 Gnome ...
[11:38] <dennis_> Didnt happen in FreeBSD either
[11:38] <dennis_> Maybe it is gnome
[11:38] <dennis_> That I have a problem with
[11:39] <kaffeend|away> silverton: really? :P
[11:39] <b0xy> yatesy: business tech major. she has to know linux a little bit so she asked me what she would try
[11:39] <Raux> the problem is in keyboard
[11:39] <burning_bronx> have you tried after burning the cd to unmount it the mount it again?
[11:39] <Raux> I cant use some letters
[11:39] <burning_bronx> *then mount
[11:39] <silverton> NiklasH_work, in a terminal, type alsamixer, and put PCM down to about 75-80%
[11:39] <Nikusan> kaffeend|away, yeah they sound really dodgy
[11:39] <silverton> you may have to up the volume on the speakers themselves, but it _might_ help
[11:39] <xenex> Anyone here know how to make a NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card work?
[11:39] <burning_bronx> dennis_, have you?
[11:39] <dennis_> No
[11:39] <dennis_> How would I do that :/
[11:39] <burning_bronx> ...
[11:39] <silverton> Nikusan, he was being sarcastic :)
[11:40] <burning_bronx> you familiar with the mount command
[11:40] <burning_bronx> ?
[11:40] <yatesy> b0xy: cool
[11:40] <dennis_> Nope :/
[11:40] <burning_bronx> okay insert the DVD
[11:40] <dennis_> k
[11:40] <b0xy> yatesy: all my female cousins on my mom's side are pretty and smart. all 7 of them didn't catch the male genetics though :(
[11:40] <kaffeend|away> Nikusan I bet lol
[11:41] <yatesy> b0xy: :/
[11:41] <b0xy> er... the males didn't catch it*
[11:41] <b0xy> there's 7 girls on my mom's side
[11:41] <kaffeend|away> Nikusan does he sing them to me?
[11:41] <yatesy> lol
[11:41] <b0xy> holy slow boot time batman
[11:41] <silverton> kaffeend|away, wtf are you talking about?
[11:41] <Nikusan> nah they're still just listenable, nothing that bad :P
[11:41] <Nikusan> I've tried switching between ALSA, ESD etc didn't help
[11:41] <burning_bronx> dennis_, you did it already?
[11:41] <b0xy> WinXP on a 333mhz, 64mb RAM box with all the shit turned off
[11:41] <b0xy> this is slow as _hell_
[11:41] <dennis_> burning_bronx, you mean put the disk in?
[11:41] <b0xy> clean install
[11:41] <silverton> Nikusan, did you try putting PCM down to about 75-80%?
[11:41] <burning_bronx> yes
[11:41] <kaffeend|away> silverton ubotu singing mp3s to me ;)
[11:41] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:42] <dennis_> oh Sweet
[11:42] <dennis_> I did it
[11:42] <dennis_> and it worked
[11:42] <Nikusan> silverton, PCM?
[11:42] <burning_bronx> now
[11:42] <dennis_> I had to do it via the command prompt
[11:42] <silverton> type alsamixer in a terminal
[11:42] <burning_bronx> do what?
[11:42] <dennis_> umount cdrom
[11:42] <dennis_> mount cdrom
[11:42] <burning_bronx> ....
[11:42] <burning_bronx> that's what I told you
[11:42] <dennis_> lol
[11:42] <afief> in configuring mplayer: gedit ~/.mplayer/config cannot be accessed
[11:42] <dennis_> Sorry it is 2:45 here
[11:42] <burning_bronx> :O
[11:42] <burning_bronx> no
[11:42] <burning_bronx> *np
[11:42] <dennis_> And I'm having problems keeping my eyes open
[11:42] <burning_bronx> it hits us all
[11:42] <dennis_> More or less trying to think :P
[11:43] <dennis_> !restricted formats
[11:43] <ubotu> restricted formats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:43] <dennis_> Ah crap
[11:44] <dennis_> What was that firefox fix i used last time i used breezy
[11:44] <afief> in configuring mplayer: gedit ~/.mplayer/config cannot be accessed
[11:44] <dennis_> :/
[11:44] <dennis_> Something in the about:config i had to change
[11:44] <dennis_> because firefox won't load a page
[11:44] <New2Linux> Is there a channel specifically for people who are completely new to Linux?
[11:45] <silverton> New2Linux, this one can be if you want :)
[11:45] <New2Linux> I'd prefer it :)
[11:45] <silverton> just ask, you'll most likely receive an answer
[11:45] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, we got it all here - from crack to open source
[11:45] <Nikusan> silverton, that seems to have helped greatly, kudos :)
[11:45] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:46] <New2Linux> I have tons of experience with windows and Im semi proficient at DOS, but I cant seem for the life of me to get anything to work in Ubuntu
[11:46] <silverton> New2Linux, too broad for any advice :P
[11:46] <silverton> Nikusan, no problem dude
[11:46] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, that's mainly cause the ways of windows are different to the ways of linux
[11:46] <New2Linux> I have a modem detection script sitting on the desktop and im trying to get the script to run in bash
[11:47] <New2Linux> apparently Im in the proper directory in BASH as the script shows up when I perform a DIR
[11:47] <burning_bronx> where did you get that script from?
[11:48] <New2Linux> hang on, need to look in history
[11:48] <New2Linux> it was about 50 pages of surfing for information ago :|
[11:48] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, it's ls, not dir
[11:49] <burning_bronx> pvanhoof, dir works too
[11:49] <burning_bronx> ls is sooooo unix >.>
[11:49] <New2Linux> linuxant.com, well a link on the site to a tool that supposed to tell me what version of their driver is required for my particular modem
[11:49] <pvanhoof> but how is he going to learn "Unix" if he's still using 1980's dir commands?
[11:49] <dom_cyrus> dir is shity
[11:49] <New2Linux> because its what I know works :)
[11:49] <yatesy> dir is just an alias ;P
[11:49] <New2Linux> but thanks for the info, I'll use ls from now on
[11:49] <dom_cyrus> yeah
[11:50] <silverton> I've gotten so use to "ls" that I type it on windows box's...
[11:50] <burning_bronx> ls is better yeah
[11:50] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:50] <dom_cyrus> dir is just an useless alias
[11:50] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, install cygwin on your Windows hosts, and use ls from now on :)
[11:50] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, but add c:\cygwin\bin to your PATH in windows
[11:50] <burning_bronx> dom_cyrus, don't hate it. Whatever works is good - after all linux wouldn't be linux if this was untrue
[11:50] <New2Linux> Thats the whole point of me rying ubuntu on my lappie
[11:51] <New2Linux> I want to deepsix my windows for good
[11:51] <dom_cyrus> burning_bronx, ok thats true
[11:51] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, right, then use ls ;-), not dir
[11:51] <pvanhoof> :D
[11:51] <New2Linux> heh...
[11:51] <pvanhoof> and cp, not xcopy
[11:51] <pvanhoof> etcetera
[11:51] <burning_bronx> give him constructive advise
[11:51] <New2Linux> ok, so Im getting the same output...
[11:51] <burning_bronx> he needs his modem detected
[11:52] <pvanhoof> what modem type?
[11:52] <New2Linux> ahhhhh, someone who sees the root problem, thank you :)
[11:52] <New2Linux> conexant
[11:52] <New2Linux> I have the exact detection script sitting on my desktop
[11:52] <New2Linux> I just cant seem to run the darned thing
[11:52] <pvanhoof> System->Adminsitration->Networking
[11:52] <Drgb> hi everyone...ahem...I've got a problem. I can't boot my computer...it stops when loading syslog daemon, what can I do?
[11:52] <New2Linux> I actually did take a *nix class about 3 or 4 years ago, but its been forever
[11:52] <pvanhoof> use that, and tell me .. is your modem in that window?
[11:53] <New2Linux> It shows up, but it no properties
[11:53] <pvanhoof> you see your modem?
[11:53] <pvanhoof> "Modem connection"
[11:53] <pvanhoof> if so, click it and press the Properties button
[11:53] <New2Linux> well actually it says Modem Connection, but says its not configured
[11:54] <pvanhoof> and check the "Enable this connection" checkbox in the next dialog
[11:54] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, click on the modem and then hit it
[11:54] <silverton> um, pvanhoof, I have a "modem connection" as well, but ya know, a modem has never set it's pins in my PCI slots, evar
[11:54] <New2Linux> I did that and input my ISP information in
[11:54] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, in the next tab, "Modem"
[11:54] <pvanhoof> have you pressed the auto detect button?
[11:54] <New2Linux> The 2nd tab for modem settings is blank, and when I tried to auto detect...
[11:55] <New2Linux> it just sat there whirring...
[11:55] <pvanhoof> ok
[11:55] <New2Linux> sorta reminded me of windows 95 :D
[11:55] <silverton> nah, that's slackware :)
[11:55] <pvanhoof> You got a "Could not autodetect modem device" dialog?
[11:55] <burning_bronx> get IceWM and you will get the win95 look >.>
[11:55] <New2Linux> no, it never came back
[11:55] <New2Linux> I figured after 5 minutes of not detecting anything it wasnt going to
[11:55] <silverton> kde and redmond
[11:55] <silverton> New2Linux, I just tried, and it didn't take 5 minutes
[11:55] <pvanhoof> aha ok
[11:55] <silverton> took like, 20s
[11:56] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, so that basically means that ubuntu isn't supporting your modem (by default)
[11:56] <pvanhoof> :P
[11:56] <New2Linux> Thats weird ok now it came back with couldnt autodetect
[11:56] <silverton> sudo modprobe uber_leet_win_modem_module
[11:56] <New2Linux> pretty much
[11:56] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, do what silverton's proposing
[11:56] <New2Linux> hey its an HP laptop
[11:56] <burning_bronx> modprobe the modem >.>
[11:56] <silverton> rofl
[11:57] <burning_bronx> HP...
[11:57] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:57] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:57] <silverton> dancing?
[11:57] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, try on google: conexant ubuntu
[11:57] <pvanhoof> and take the first resule
[11:57] <burning_bronx> more like scratching my arse
[11:57] <pvanhoof> result
[11:57] <New2Linux> yeah....I know terrific machine.. but, I was reading a link from a fellow who got fedora core three installed on the same machine I have
[11:57] <pvanhoof> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[11:58] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, can you give me the output of uname -a ?
[11:58] <pawel> has anyone here tried a wacom tablet on ubuntu?
[11:58] <silverton> WTFD?!
[11:58] <silverton> a free version, limited to 14.4kbps
[11:58] <silverton> and then a full version, with 56k and fax, for a modest price
[11:59] <New2Linux> yeah ok I have that driver file sitting on my desktop
[11:59] <silverton> ROFL!!!!
[11:59] <nmsa> Greetings and Merry Christmas!
[11:59] <burning_bronx> that's kinda gay a'la MS
[11:59] <burning_bronx> anyway
[11:59] <New2Linux> thats ok,...Im not worried about it, the only place I use the modem is at work through a switchboard and I could only max out at 24.0 anyhow
[11:59] <New2Linux> at home I have 9 meg cable :P
[11:59] <nmsa> where can I find a xface install guide for a Ubuntu server install ?
[11:59] <silverton> luianys fhl
[11:59] <silverton> ROFKLASD;FKLAJS
[11:59] <silverton> OMFG!~
[11:59] <silverton> 19.99 for a fuckin driver!
[12:00] <silverton> that's more then the modem cost itself!
[12:00] <burning_bronx> silverton, shush
[12:00] <burning_bronx> so New2Linux you have the deb file on your screen?
[12:00] <Savant> Hey, anyone know what the name of the gnome widgets are?
[12:00] <silverton> New2Linux, toss that fucking modem right now...rofl
[12:00] <pvanhoof> New2Linux,  I'm waiting for the uname -a output
[12:00] <silverton> Savant, gdesklets
[12:00] <burning_bronx> silverton, SHUSH
[12:00] <silverton> burning_bronx, I'm sorry :(
[12:00] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, which driver to use depends on that output
[12:01] <rosen> argh my firefox have been acting wierd ever since the new kernel :O
[12:01] <silverton> still outrageous though... >.<
[12:01] <New2Linux> Ah HA!
[12:01] <New2Linux> success
[12:01] <burning_bronx> New2Linux?
[12:01] <burning_bronx> o_O
[12:01] <New2Linux> I think anyhow :|
[12:01] <Drgb> hi everyone...ahem...I've got a problem. I can't boot my computer...it stops when loading syslog daemon, what can I do?                        <-----sorry if I quote myself...I just think no one read this..
[12:01] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, what did you do?
[12:02] <New2Linux> sudo sh cnxtinstall.run
[12:02] <burning_bronx> wtf would you use that if you have a deb file?
[12:02] <New2Linux> I dunno, but at least it run the darned thing
[12:02] <New2Linux> *ran
[12:02] <burning_bronx> that's dumb
[12:02] <burning_bronx> ...
[12:03] <burning_bronx> now
[12:03] <burning_bronx> in console do umask -a
[12:03] <burning_bronx> and tell me what version is ur kernel
[12:03] <New2Linux> hh rud
[12:03] <silverton> uname -r
[12:03] <burning_bronx> I meant uname
[12:03] <silverton> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:03] <burning_bronx> my brain is off
[12:03] <New2Linux> Ahhh crud..no, I dont think this working
[12:03] <silverton> New2Linux, /exec -o uname -r   right here :)
[12:03] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, try uname -a
[12:03] <Drgb> please, can someone help me?
[12:04] <burning_bronx> Drgb, what's the problem?
[12:04] <Drgb> burning_bronx, i said it two times...shall I repeat?
[12:04] <burning_bronx> I was busy with New2Linux and I still am
[12:04] <Drgb> uh, ok
[12:04] <Drgb> you can help me later if you want
[12:04] <New2Linux> wait Im sorry, this is in IRC? or in my shell?
[12:04] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, in your SHELL
[12:04] <silverton> uname -r in shell
[12:05] <silverton> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:05] <silverton> er...
[12:05] <silverton> dammit >.<
[12:05] <silverton> pwned by own noobness >.<
[12:05] <New2Linux> 2.6.12-9-386
[12:05] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, get this
[12:05] <burning_bronx> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/archive/hsfmodem-7.18.00.07full/hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_9_386_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip?PHPSESSID=ee154b0136e400e50417435927675f30
[12:06] <burning_bronx> unzip the deb file to a dir
[12:06] <burning_bronx> the cd to this dir and execute "dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:07] <bnD> ubotu, frostwire
[12:07] <ubotu> I don't know, bnD
[12:07] <bnD> ubotu, restricted formats
[12:07] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[12:08] <Drgb> burning_bronx, have you got a minute now?
[12:08] <New2Linux> ok hang two, im working on it
[12:09] <burning_bronx> Drgb, so the boot process crashes at syslog daemon?
[12:09] <Drgb> yep
[12:10] <rosen> uh oh ... hearing noises from next door ... and my neighbour is gone for the holidays ... burglers or a poltergheist, I dunno what I'd prefer
[12:10] <rosen> apt-get ghostbusters
[12:10] <agtnz> How do I check if I have fat32 support compiled into the kernel?
[12:10] <burning_bronx> is this after a fresh install or have you had a running ubuntu system?
[12:10] <Drgb> i had a running ubuntu system
[12:10] <DonVincenzo> I just reinstalled the xorg drivers, someone can tell what should Irun to generate the xorg.conf ?
[12:10] <New2Linux> oh no, hahaha, I actually typed in filename oh chriminy
[12:10] <Drgb> yesterday night i turned my computer off
[12:10] <burning_bronx> !xorg
[12:10] <ubotu> methinks xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:10] <New2Linux> was wondering why it wasnt doing anything *Doh!*
[12:10] <Drgb> and this morning it started giving that problem
[12:11] <burning_bronx> Drgb, don't paste in this channel.
[12:11] <Coburn> how i can lunch rox desktop automatically at startup in gnome??
[12:11] <burning_bronx> use the link in the topic
[12:11] <rosen> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <Drgb> burning_bronx, paste what?
[12:11] <burning_bronx> whatever
[12:11] <Drgb> i did not paste anything...
[12:12] <rosen> !flood
[12:12] <ubotu> flood is probably for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:12] <New2Linux> ok it looks like its unpacking and asking me if I want to use them
[12:12] <burning_bronx> Drgb, my bad
[12:12] <burning_bronx> I am having eye issues
[12:12] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, of course you do
[12:12] <burning_bronx> otherwise why would you bother downloading?
[12:12] <burning_bronx> sheesh...
[12:12] <Drgb> burning_bronx, oh, sorry, maybe it's because of my bnc, it can be laging
[12:13] <burning_bronx> nvm
[12:13] <burning_bronx> it was "my" bad
[12:13] <Drgb> uh, ok, ok
[12:13] <New2Linux> yeah im running through the install now thanks *rofl* good lord next thing you know im going to be writing stuff on the top of my desk and using the built in coffee cup holder
[12:13] <nmsa> I need a ligth wm for ubuntu server, any suggestions?
[12:13] <burning_bronx> nmsa, Fluxbox/openbox or IceWM
[12:14] <New2Linux> 10 years of OS experience went out the window, Im surprised im not waving my mouse around in the air, this is too funny
[12:14] <nmsa> burning_bronx: do you know a install guide for IceWM? i can install it but X is missing I gues
[12:14] <SirKillalot> are there any other gnome-panel applets on the web
[12:14] <SirKillalot> ?
[12:15] <New2Linux> Ok let me browse on over to my modem and see if it shows up now..
[12:15] <burning_bronx> nmsa, you haven't installed x?
[12:15] <clast> is there a better sticky notes applet than the one integrated in gnome?
[12:15] <burning_bronx> !gdesklets
[12:15] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[12:16] <SirKillalot> gdesklets sucks
[12:16] <burning_bronx> he asked for alternative
[12:16] <nmsa> burning_bronx: with ubuntu server i think X is not installed by default
[12:16] <burning_bronx> besides many would disagree
[12:16] <New2Linux> Hmmm
[12:16] <burning_bronx> nmsa I thought you'd have it if you ask for WM sorry
[12:16] <burning_bronx> now
[12:16] <SirKillalot> burning_bronx, the problem is that it is singlethreaded and VERY unstable
[12:16] <burning_bronx> you install first xserver-xorg
[12:16] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get install xserver-xor
[12:16] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:17] <nmsa> burning_bronx: sure I need to install X too ... so I have to install it too :) I'll do that :) thank you
[12:17] <New2Linux> Ok so it supposedly now installed, but its still not showing up..
[12:17] <Drgb> burning_bronx, do you think I should join my language-specific channel? I think I can get some help there, but it's not crowded as this one
[12:18] <burning_bronx> Drgb, you should join there
[12:18] <burning_bronx> >.>
[12:18] <SirKillalot> are there any other applets for gnome-panel?
[12:18] <burning_bronx> New2Linux,
[12:19] <Toma-> SirKillalot: what kind of applets?
[12:19] <burning_bronx> have you ran hsfconfig ?
[12:19] <SirKillalot> Toma-, I don't know, just looking for new ones
[12:19] <SirKillalot> you know that rightclick -> add to panel things
[12:19] <Toma-> well theres apps for just about anything
[12:20] <SirKillalot> Toma-, is there something like a resource page?
[12:20] <Toma-> doubt it
[12:21] <bimberi> SirKillalot: "apt-cache search panel applet" returns a few things :)
[12:21] <burning_bronx> or just search in synaptic?
[12:21] <burning_bronx> >.>
[12:22] <trevorv> trying to burn an audio cd in graveman, im getting "Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory". any ideas to solve this?
[12:22] <puptentacle> I'm back and I'm running Ubunutu!!! Thanks for the help earlier!
[12:22] <heartbt> quick and easy way to resize a partition?
[12:22] <New2Linux> hsfconfig is asking me if I want to use existing driver modules?
[12:23] <burning_bronx> puptentacle, congratulations
[12:23] <New2Linux> yet default is no?
[12:23] <puptentacle> TYTY...that was MUCH easier than I would have thought.
[12:23] <SirKillalot> bimberi, oh god, how obviously.. sorry, never thought about searching them via apt
[12:23] <heartbt> OMG I hate suse anymore/
[12:23] <SirKillalot> thanks
[12:23] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, you could always use hsfconfig --help
[12:23] <burning_bronx> prior to running the app itself too
[12:24] <bimberi> SirKillalot: :)
[12:25] <burning_bronx> heartbt?
[12:25] <heartbt> yeah?
[12:25] <New2Linux> hmmm ok well someone asked if I had run HSFconfig, I wasnt sure if it was something I was required to do to get the modem recognized :)
[12:25] <burning_bronx> what's wrong?
[12:25] <heartbt> I got like a half an hour, you gonna be on for awhile?
[12:25] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, it shouldn't be but it should help you configure stuff
[12:26] <burning_bronx> I am >.>
[12:26] <burning_bronx> on for a while
[12:26] <New2Linux> Ahhh ok.... well Im wondering now if its having trouble locating the autodetect because I dont have the modem currently plugged into the wall
[12:26] <heartbt> burning_bronx, I'll look you up when i get home, if youre still here.  I got to get this partition that suse 10 is on 3gb smaller, easily.
[12:26] <heartbt> but now gotta run.
[12:26] <puptentacle> So anyone have any suggestions for other apps that are indespensible?
[12:27] <burning_bronx> k
[12:27] <burning_bronx> puptentacle, what do you need?
[12:27] <burning_bronx> you can hit the starter guide >.>
[12:27] <burning_bronx> !starter
[12:27] <ubotu> burning_bronx: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:27] <burning_bronx> !starterguide
[12:27] <ubotu> hmm... starterguide is http://help.ubuntu.com/
[12:27] <puptentacle> Mostly music apps of various types. And is there a DCC client?
[12:28] <burning_bronx> puptentacle, you are loaded with rythmbox but you can also get beep-media-player
[12:28] <puptentacle> Should I be overly worried about a firewall?
[12:28] <puptentacle> Is there a version of Foobar for linux?
[12:29] <burning_bronx> puptentacle, firewalls are mostly for win users but if you want to feel 100% safe you can get one I think >.>
[12:29] <puptentacle> I wouldn't consider being online with win without one, but I'm going to see how this goes first.
[12:30] <puptentacle> Just type "pup" burning_bronx. It's easier!
[12:30] <burning_bronx> puptentacle, I type pup and press tab
[12:30] <trevorv> puptentacle, try firestarter if you do want one
[12:30] <burning_bronx> >.>
[12:30] <puptentacle> ok, will take a look at that.
[12:31] <puptentacle> 3:30am my time. I'm off. Thanks for the help!!!
[12:31] <attrib> hi
[12:32] <New2Linux> do you have to use sudo almost anytime you want to do something outside of your home directory then in Ubuntu?
[12:32] <thegladiator> i am trying to run a avi file , xvid format , it doesnt open , the player close automatically when i try to do the same
[12:33] <jenda> New2Linux: pretty much
[12:33] <trevorv> New2Linux, yes, for anything you dont have privileges to read or write
[12:33] <jenda> thegladiator: how are you running it?
[12:33] <thegladiator> using totem movie player
[12:33] <thegladiator> jenda, has divx codec AFAIK
[12:33] <New2Linux> but by default in ubuntu thats pretty much everything right? as root admin is hidden on default install?
[12:33] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, have you installed totem-xine?
[12:34] <burning_bronx> and the codecs?
[12:34] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, yes
[12:34] <trevorv> New2Linux, yes
[12:34] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i used to see divx files
[12:34] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, this is xvid format and in findows i need to install xvid format
[12:34] <jenda> thegladiator: Are you doing it with the Open Flie command? you are, try opening it from nautilus - double click or right click. That works for me. Has to be a bug.
[12:35] <trevorv> New2Linux, anything that changes things system-wide requires root privileges, to stop normal users making such changes
[12:35] <New2Linux> ok, wow this is a lot of information to take in all at once O_0
[12:35] <thegladiator> yes i am trying to do the same
[12:35] <thegladiator> double click on the file
[12:35] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, it's actually little...
[12:36] <burning_bronx> I mean that's a part of what makes linux more secure than winboze >.>
[12:36] <New2Linux> I know, I figure thats why its worth learning
[12:36] <trevorv> burning_bronx, windows is doing the same thing in vista though, i think
[12:36] <thegladiator> jenda, i do the double click thing and it just closes
[12:36] <New2Linux> just...wow...
[12:36] <IamJacksUsername> Upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 with a CD, changed all "hoary"s to "breezy"s in repos; now getting "Could not download all repository indexes [...]  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz:MD5Sum mismatch" error. Also stat warning.
[12:37] <thegladiator> jenda, the icon shown has the movie information thought , i can see a feame information in the icon
[12:37] <thegladiator> jenda, efame*
[12:37] <thegladiator> jenda, frame*
[12:37] <burning_bronx> trevorv, how gay of them copying linux. then again vista is an overkill when it comes to eyecandy
[12:37] <New2Linux> hmmm modem still isnt showing up though
[12:37] <burning_bronx> and a resource sucker
[12:38] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, is it connected to a working line? have you tested it?
[12:38] <New2Linux> I tried vista after and before I installed ubuntu, explorer crashed 5 times in a row...reinstalled ubuntu
[12:38] <jenda> thegladiator: hmmm... then try right clicking and selecting a different player (xine, mplayer, VLC). If not, then install "sudo apt-get install xine-ui" - I prefer that over totem
[12:38] <New2Linux> not yet, I cant from this location, do I have to have a live line connected in order for the autodetect function to work?
[12:38] <thegladiator> yep lemme try xine
[12:38] <thegladiator> mplayer is buggy for me
[12:39] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, have you ever done sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[12:39] <burning_bronx> ?
[12:39] <New2Linux> I figured It would at least see the modem before I tried to use it to connect. Is that ot the case in linux?
[12:39] <burning_bronx> well I thought it sees it?
[12:39] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i did that from synaptic
[12:39] <burning_bronx> k
[12:39] <New2Linux> well...it does, but it wont auto-detect anything about it
[12:39] <New2Linux> says its either not installed or malfunction
[12:40] <New2Linux> -ing
[12:40] <thegladiator> totem
[12:40] <thegladiator> xine
[12:40] <burning_bronx> well I haven't had much experience with winmodems and don't have one here to test :/
[12:40] <New2Linux> If thats normal until it actually tries dialing out, thats cool, but unexpected and I apologize again for my noobness :D
[12:41] <burning_bronx> well I can't know - told you I don't have a winmodem here
[12:41] <New2Linux> Ok, well let me go take a peek anyhow. I appreciate all your help, I actually did learn some stuff here
[12:41] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, you can learn a lot more.
[12:41] <New2Linux> I may be back shortly :D
[12:41] <New2Linux> Oh I plan too..
[12:41] <New2Linux> after 3 nights in a row trying to get my copy of XP key enabled for my laptop because I replaced the hdd
[12:42] <New2Linux> and every night getting told that they were in the process of systems maintenence (MS newspeak for, all of our stuff is offline)
[12:42] <New2Linux> I tired of that crap
[12:42] <New2Linux> might as well put the effort towards something else
[12:43] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, you went in the right direction
[12:43] <burning_bronx> Ubuntu is a young distro but one of the most promising
[12:43] <burning_bronx> :)
[12:43] <New2Linux> I sure hope so, I figured it couldnt be any worse than windows 95
[12:43] <burning_bronx> roflmfao
[12:43] <New2Linux> same frustration I went through when first having to deal with that
[12:43] <New2Linux> I cant believe I typed in filename.deb
[12:44] <burning_bronx> comparing win95 to a linux is like...
[12:44] <burning_bronx> happens >.>
[12:44] <boabsta> hi guys, how do you install the lame encoder plugin for k3b?
[12:44] <New2Linux> when I saw what I did I just BOL
[12:44] <bimberi> boabsta: install k3b-mp3
[12:44] <New2Linux> I was even thinking to myself, shouldnt it be the actual filename?
[12:45] <New2Linux> and I still typed it in like that :)
[12:45] <New2Linux> hehehe
[12:45] <boabsta> bimberi, thanks
[12:45] <New2Linux> anyhow, appreciate the help again
[12:45] <bimberi> boabsta: yw :)
[12:45] <burning_bronx> you're always welcome
[12:45] <New2Linux> Have a Merry Christmas, happy holiday everyoe
[12:45] <New2Linux> tc all
[12:46] <llukax> hey does anyone knwo a good place for repositories?
[12:46] <thegladiator> jenda, it does work with XINE , but not with totem-xine
[12:46] <thegladiator> actually i dont like XINE interface
[12:47] <thegladiator> is there anyway I can install a player that uses Xine at the backend ?
[12:47] <thegladiator> like totem does ?
[12:47] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, there is gxine but then I wouldn't recommend that
[12:47] <burning_bronx> it's a gnome backend for xine
[12:48] <thegladiator> why wouldnt u recommend that burning_bronx  ?
[12:48] <burning_bronx> cause I don't like it
[12:48] <burning_bronx> not saying you wouldn'
[12:48] <burning_bronx> *wouldn't
[12:48] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, interface ? or functionality ?
[12:48] <burning_bronx> it does everything xine does.
[12:49] <burning_bronx> I just prefer other stuff
[12:49] <thegladiator> ah
[12:49] <burning_bronx> like VLC
[12:49] <burning_bronx> !vlc
[12:49] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[12:49] <thegladiator> even VLC doesnt open this file . XINE does
[12:49] <burning_bronx> hello again afief
[12:49] <burning_bronx> >.>
[12:49] <burning_bronx> weird
[12:50] <afief> burning_bronx: Howdy:D my computer is feeling great now that all multimedia works again
[12:50] <burning_bronx> good :)
[12:51] <afief> i still need to get some stuff working though, how do i get the firefox java plugin?
[12:51] <afief> firefox says i should download the sun binary, the ubuntu guide says something about apt-get which doesn't work for me
[12:51] <Ozman> would you know how to start a program automatically after starting fluxbox ?
[12:52] <burning_bronx> !fluxbox
[12:52] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[12:52] <xenex> yay i got my wireless card to work!!!
[12:53] <afief> !java
[12:53] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:53] <afief> !javadebs
[12:53] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[12:53] <burning_bronx> afief, you'd better build a deb file yourself
[12:53] <burning_bronx> the debs are kinda dated
[12:54] <rendi> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:54] <rendi>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:54] <afief> which is something i don't know how to do... i only today moved from Fedora to Ubuntu
[12:54] <rendi> can help me
[12:54] <burning_bronx> afief, it sais it all here
[12:54] <burning_bronx> !java
[12:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:54] <burning_bronx> also I am about to make me a deb my self
[12:55] <rendi> hello ?
[12:55] <burning_bronx> so if you're not in a hurry you can wait
[12:55] <burning_bronx> rendi?
[12:55] <rendi> i wanna upgrade
[12:55] <thegladiator> jenda, even gxine close the avi file
[12:55] <thegladiator> xine works with the file but
[12:55] <rendi> and give err like tha
[12:55] <thegladiator> jenda, i cant understand the problem
[12:56] <rendi> burning_bronx can hlep
[12:56] <burning_bronx> rendi, I don't know what your problem is.
[12:56] <burning_bronx> speak more clearly
[12:56] <rendi> ok
[12:56] <rendi>  apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <rendi> Reading package lists... Done
[12:56] <rendi> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:56] <rendi> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:56] <rendi>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:56] <rendi> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[12:56] <rendi> like that
[12:57] <bobx> can anyone advise on the best way to install freenx on breezy?
[12:57] <rendi> what mean "kept back"
[12:57] <thegladiator> jenda, do you get any clue ?
[12:57] <burning_bronx> rendi, it means there are dependencies not yet fixed for those 2 files
[12:57] <rendi> i'm use breezy
[12:58] <burning_bronx> weird
[12:58] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, the file file works with XINE but when i use GXINE or totem-xine , it doesnt run
[12:58] <burning_bronx> there shouldn't be any trouble with that
[12:58] <rendi> so what shoul i do
[12:58] <burning_bronx> wait...
[12:58] <rendi> i'm fresh instalation this morning and wanna upgrade my system
[12:59] <BlueEagle> rendi: did you update before attempting to upgrade?
[12:59] <burning_bronx> rendi try again to do sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <adaro> Can someone tell me how i can change the screen resolution, I canged my xorg.conf file  to us 1152x864 but somehow it allways defaults back to 1024x786
[12:59] <rendi> ya
[12:59] <rendi> i'm use updat then upgrade
[01:00] <BlueEagle> rendi: Have you configured your sources.list properly?
[01:00] <adaro> And i am 100% sure it does support that resultion on windows
[01:00] <rendi> i'm use default sources.list
[01:00] <BlueEagle> adaro: gfx card?
[01:00] <rendi> same problem
[01:00] <rendi> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:00] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[01:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:00] <adaro> BlueEagle, nvidia ti4200
[01:01] <BlueEagle> adaro: Are you using nvidia-settings?
[01:01] <linuxgeek2> hi folks how do I install man pages for all the C libraries
[01:01] <linuxgeek2> ?
[01:01] <adaro> BlueEagle, what is that ?
[01:01] <adaro> a param ?
[01:01] <BlueEagle> adaro: ignore that question. :)
[01:02] <BlueEagle> arnald: pastebin your corg.conf please.
[01:02] <BlueEagle> s/arnald/adaro/
[01:02] <adaro> BlueEagle, ah it's a package for configuring the driverl
[01:02] <Nei> how do I get a background image in my framebuffer?
[01:02] <rendi> ok burning_bronx can i type like this ? # apt-get install linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[01:03] <trevorv> when running "mount /dev/cdrom" im getting mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:03] <trevorv> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[01:03] <adaro> BlueEagle, do you need that ?
[01:03] <BlueEagle> rendi: why do you want linux-image-386? Which processor have you got?
[01:03] <burning_bronx> rendi, that wouldn't be recommended...
[01:03] <BlueEagle> adaro: you don't need nvidia-settings but you do need to pastebin your xorg.conf so I can have a look-see,
[01:03] <rendi> i'm use intel PIII
[01:04] <BlueEagle> rendi: Then you want the 686 kernel.
[01:04] <pvanhoof> trevorv, cat you give me the output of cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[01:04] <burning_bronx> i686
[01:04] <burning_bronx> >.>
[01:04] <davro> is there an editor like gedit that does tabs and vim like text folding ?
[01:04] <trevorv> pvanhoof, /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:04] <trevorv> im using Xfce, so i dont have automount
[01:05] <BlueEagle> davro: kate and quanta afaik.
[01:05] <rendi> blur
[01:05] <adaro> BlueEagle, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6110
[01:05] <kamil> siema!!!
[01:05] <rendi> dunno what shoul i do
[01:05] <rendi> still kept back
[01:05] <pvanhoof> trevorv, can you take the cdrom out of your cdrom-drive, put it back in and then give me the output of dmesg | tail -n 5
[01:05] <kamil> mwi tu kto po polsku??
[01:06] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: manpages-dev ? (guessing)
[01:06] <pvanhoof> dmesg | tail -n 2 is also okay
[01:06] <kamil> KURWA DEBILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:06] <linuxgeek2> ok bimberi
[01:06] <trevorv> pvanhoof, [4297388.178000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[01:06] <trevorv> [4300037.152000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[01:06] <trevorv> [4300118.041000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[01:06] <trevorv> [4300118.041000]  hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4
[01:06] <trevorv> [4300118.041000]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[01:06] <BlueEagle> adaro: try commenting out lines 73 and 74
[01:06] <burning_bronx> afief, you installed that java?
[01:06] <pvanhoof> trevorv, are you sure the cdrom in your drive is a good cd with no errors?
[01:07] <trevorv> pvanhoof, its a blank cd, but give me a sec ill try another
[01:07] <pvanhoof> the kernel logs sais your cd-disc is fscked
[01:07] <adaro> BlueEagle, k brb
[01:07] <pvanhoof> trevorv, of course you can't mount a blank cd
[01:07] <linuxgeek2> cool install manpages-dev
[01:07] <linuxgeek2> installing it
[01:07] <funkyHat> Hi... I think I'm having trouble with my filesystems... and the man page for fsck is pretty cryptic... (I'm on livecd right now), how can I check all ext3 filesystems?
[01:08] <trevorv> pvanhoof, oh, sorry, i thought you had to mount before you could burn to it, because graveman is giving errors
[01:08] <pvanhoof> trevorv, no you don't need to mount it before burning
[01:08] <pvanhoof> trevorv, for example if you'd like to burn an iso image, you could try this:
[01:08] <linuxgeek2> cool dude it worked thnaks
[01:08] <linuxgeek2> thaanks
[01:08] <pvanhoof> cdrecord --device /dev/cdr -v cdimage.iso
[01:08] <afief> burning_bronx: when i used the fakeroot command i got some warnings about GCC not found. should i go on or get GCC working first?
[01:08] <trevorv> no, its an audio cd pvanhoof
[01:09] <pvanhoof> ah, in that I case I recommend using a UI or a tool
[01:09] <rendi> weird
[01:09] <trevorv> yes, im trying to use graveman, but its giving errors
[01:09] <pvanhoof> but you can burn audio cd's with cdrecord commandline (in fact, the tools will do the same thing)
[01:09] <burning_bronx> hmm afief there should be no problem >.>
[01:09] <rendi> i can upgrade from sipnatic but can't from apt-get ??
[01:09] <burning_bronx> just installing those packages mentioned in the guide
[01:09] <burning_bronx> :|
[01:09] <rendi> whats the problem here
[01:10] <afief> it did create the DEB file, i just got warnings, no errors
[01:10] <adaro> BlueEagle, no change
[01:10] <pvanhoof> trevorv, well, best thing to do to check whether your drive is working in ubuntu or not, is to use the cdrecord tool. But it's not as easy as using a user interface
[01:10] <DonVincenzo> Hi, I would like to do VoIP with a windows user, what should I do ?
[01:10] <rodrigo1> hi can anybody tell me how can I make the gnome menu bar look and feel like the macos one?
[01:10] <burning_bronx> afief, then what you waiting for?
[01:10] <burning_bronx> go on - install it >.>
[01:10] <trevorv> pvanhoof, i get " Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory" from graveman, i know the cd drive works, ive used it before to burn a data cd, athough i might have changed some settings or something since then
[01:11] <afief> your command:)
[01:11] <pvanhoof> pvanhoof, sounds like a bug in graveman
[01:11] <pvanhoof> err
[01:11] <pvanhoof> trevorv, sounds like a bug in graveman
[01:11] <pvanhoof> typing my own name, silly me
[01:11] <pvanhoof> :)
[01:12] <trevorv> pvanhoof, :D, i dont suppose you can recommend any other UIs that dont have any gnome/kde dependencies?
[01:12] <pvanhoof> trevorv, in ubuntu, can't you simply use the nautilus trick? bruning cd's is integrated
[01:12] <burning_bronx> trevorv, >.>
[01:12] <pvanhoof> if you insert an empty disc, it asks you want target-type you'd like to build, no?
[01:12] <trevorv> pvanhoof, im using xubuntu, so no nautilus
[01:12] <burning_bronx> :O
[01:12] <pvanhoof> choose audio cd, and add wav files?
[01:12] <pvanhoof> ah i see
[01:13] <burning_bronx> cdrecord cdrecord
[01:13] <burning_bronx> >.>
[01:13] <pvanhoof> well, you asked for it then! :)
[01:13] <trevorv> id ask on #xubuntu, but its very empty
[01:13] <pvanhoof> heh! :)
[01:13] <trevorv> pvanhoof, :O
[01:13] <MrPrimate> I am having a terrible time installing ubuntu on this box
[01:13] <burning_bronx> trevorv, you can use cdrecord but you have to "love the CLI"
[01:13] <MrPrimate> it always gets to "install the base failed
[01:13] <burning_bronx> MrPrimate, get a new CD...
[01:13] <MrPrimate> some problem with can't install initrd
[01:14] <MrPrimate> burning_bronx, I just burned 2nd one from their site
[01:14] <burning_bronx> >.>
[01:14] <burning_bronx> wicked.
[01:14] <xenex> MrPrimate: did you burn the iso at the lowest speed?
[01:14] <trevorv> burning_bronx, i dont even know what CLI is, that cant be a good start :)
[01:14] <MrPrimate> xenex, no idea
[01:14] <burning_bronx> trevorv, it's the command line interpeter
[01:14] <pvanhoof> cli stands for command line interface, probably
[01:14] <MrPrimate> xenex, two discs did the same thing
[01:14] <pvanhoof> cdrecord is a "cli" tool
[01:14] <xenex> MrPrimate: are you on windows right now?
[01:14] <trevorv> oh right, ok then :) ill have a look at cdrecord
[01:14] <MrPrimate> xenex this box yes
[01:14] <pvanhoof> trevorv, but it does work ..
[01:14] <xenex> MrPrimate: google iso record, and install that
[01:14] <pvanhoof> trevorv, man cdrecord :)
[01:14] <burning_bronx> trevorv, do a man cdrecord
[01:14] <burning_bronx> in terminal
[01:14] <MrPrimate> xenex yeah i used isorecord
[01:14] <burning_bronx> >.>
[01:15] <pvanhoof> but it's not as easy
[01:15] <burning_bronx> it's tricky
[01:15] <burning_bronx> but you can manage it
[01:15] <MrPrimate> xenex, i don't have problem burning the iso,
[01:15] <burning_bronx> you seem a smart boy
[01:15] <burning_bronx> :P
[01:15] <MrPrimate> xenex, i'm saying the install fails
[01:15] <MrPrimate> get everything but fails on init_rd or some such
[01:15] <DonVincenzo> is anyone here using speakfreely ? I would like to do some test
[01:15] <xenex> MrPrimate: are you trying to install it on that computer?
[01:15] <MrPrimate> all other packages are fine
[01:15] <MrPrimate> xenex: trying to install it on other box
[01:16] <MrPrimate> xenex: install is running right now again, destined to fail
[01:16] <xenex> MrPrimate: did you put the correct install settings?
[01:16] <MrPrimate> xenex, wasnt much to put, pointed it to the partition for it's space
[01:16] <MrPrimate> that's about all it wanted
[01:16] <MrPrimate> gave it hda
[01:16] <MrPrimate> 40gb
[01:17] <MrPrimate> formatted and installed all packaged fine until init-rd and grub and etc
[01:17] <xenex> MrPrimate: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=dual+boot+ubuntu
[01:17] <Ozman> well I'll tried but I can't to load an app on fluxbox start up, can you help me ?
[01:17] <xenex> MrPrimate: watch that and follow the settings
[01:17] <xenex> MrPrimate: ignore the windows part since you arent dual booting
[01:17] <heartbt> burning_bronx, heah, I made it home, whadyano
[01:18] <burning_bronx> gewd for j00
[01:18] <MrPrimate> xenex, silly that I would need instructions for ubuntu,
[01:18] <burning_bronx> Ozman, you read about the fluxbox startup file?
[01:18] <MrPrimate> xenex, I can install debian straight no issues
[01:18] <MrPrimate> i'm not going to read that, i'll install debian if ubuntu doesn't work
[01:18] <Ozman> burning_bronx, sorry ?
[01:19] <burning_bronx> Ozman, the startup file of fluxbox? that makes "things start" with fluxbox?
[01:19] <Ozman> burning_bronx, I've modified /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[01:19] <burning_bronx> ...
[01:19] <Ozman> burning_bronx, adding . /usr/bin/gdesklets to its end
[01:20] <Ozman> what's wrong ?
[01:20] <burning_bronx> first in xinitrc the exec command should be in the end
[01:20] <burning_bronx> but screw that
[01:20] <burning_bronx> you should use the fluxbox startup file
[01:20] <burning_bronx> it's in here ~/.fluxbox/startup
[01:20] <vister> woot
[01:21] <vister> #ubuntu!
[01:21] <burning_bronx> there are helpful comments in the file
[01:21] <Ozman> burning_bronx, where is that file ?
[01:21] <vister> anyone know how to change a topic title?
[01:21] <burning_bronx> ozman in your home dir there is a hidden directory called .fluxbox
[01:21] <burning_bronx> in it is the startup file
[01:21] <heartbt> vister, in IRC?
[01:21] <vister> yea
[01:21] <burning_bronx> vister, this is ubuntu support n ot irc support -_-;
[01:21] <heartbt> "/topic what you want to say" and yeah, what bronx said.
[01:22] <vister> ioooh
[01:22] <vister> thnx
[01:22] <vister> yea, no one else knows: i figured you guys are smarter-than-average
[01:22] <Ozman> burning_bronx, ~/.fluxbox/init ?
[01:22] <burning_bronx> fluxbox/startup
[01:23] <Ozman> burning_bronx, I don't have this file
[01:23] <heartbt> hey now, pumping our ego's won't make up for breaking the rules!  (whatever, thanks!)
[01:23] <adaro> Does anyone else know what might be wrong with my x config
[01:23] <burning_bronx> just a sec ozman
[01:23] <Ozman> nico@nico:~/.fluxbox$ ls
[01:23] <Ozman> fluxbox-menu  fluxbox-menu~  init  init~  keys  lastwallpaper  menu
[01:23] <burning_bronx> Ozman, don't paste hir
[01:23] <burning_bronx> !paste
[01:23] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:23] <Ozman> ok I'm sory
[01:24] <burning_bronx> Ozman, it should be in that dir
[01:24] <MrPrimate> are all users sudo in ubuntu ?
[01:24] <burning_bronx> I mean I have it
[01:24] <heartbt> MrPrimate, yes, there is no root.
[01:24] <burning_bronx> MrPrimate, no only the initial one.
[01:24] <Ozman> burning_bronx, so what ...
[01:24] <burning_bronx> the rest you have to add to the sudoers list
[01:24] <MrPrimate> only initial user o
[01:24] <heartbt> burning_bronx, Oh, hey yeah, misread.
[01:24] <Xmas_Kaiser> 2 lines of paste is ok
[01:24] <SirKillalot> do you know a good rss feed reader for gnome?
[01:25] <MrPrimate> ok check this .... copying remaininage packages to the hard disk failed .. you might have run out of disk space in the target /var filesystem .. or cd reading problems
[01:25] <MrPrimate> 1- there is tons of space    2- just burned 2 clean ubuntu install discs
[01:25] <burning_bronx> Ozman, type in console gedit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[01:25] <Xmas_Kaiser> MrPrimate: have you checked the md5sum of the cds?
[01:25] <Anil> Hi All! Can someone tell me why is Dapper LIVE CD not working?
[01:25] <MrPrimate> Xmas_Kaiser, no just grabbed them from ubuntu website
[01:26] <Ozman> burning_bronx, ok it has created ths file, I suppose
[01:26] <burning_bronx> it's empty?
[01:26] <tom> i'm trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper, but i'm getting the following error message when i try to install locales: http://rafb.net/paste/results/onsVim12.html
[01:26] <thegladiator> can i login to X as a root ?
[01:26] <MrPrimate> is 5.10 stable or which is
[01:26] <Xmas_Kaiser> MrPrimate: then you should check your iso to make sure it's not dud
[01:26] <Astxist> anyone know of a good audio converter app, command line preferable
[01:26] <thegladiator> 5.10 is stable
[01:26] <CaptainMorgan> Dappter is unstable
[01:26] <pm> Anil, maybe because it's Christmas time ;)
[01:26] <MrPrimate> Xmas_Kaiser, haha, no I have a cd iso
[01:26] <Ozman> burning_bronx, of course it is... you saw that I haven't got the file in the dir
[01:26] <thegladiator> 5.10 is stable , Dapper is unstable
[01:26] <Anil> I checked the md5 of Dapper Live CD I downloaded, and it was correct. Still the Live CD  doesn't work!
[01:27] <thegladiator> Anil, hi
[01:27] <MrPrimate> (647,129,088 bytes)
[01:27] <burning_bronx> just a sec Ozman
[01:27] <thegladiator> Anil, how did u burn the cd ?
[01:27] <MrPrimate> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[01:27] <Xmas_Kaiser> Anil: that's quite possible
[01:27] <SirKillalot> which rss news reader do you use?
[01:27] <heartbt> thegladiator, no, login as you, and if you really need root, sudo bash.
[01:27] <thegladiator> Anil, the file is ISO image , you have to burn accordingly
[01:27] <pm> Anil, I'm not working either - it's Christmas, let's celebrate :D
[01:27] <MrPrimate> should I try an older ubuntu ?
[01:27] <MrPrimate> i've never seen anything like ths
[01:28] <Ozman> no pb
[01:28] <valentinos> are there any problems other than security if i create the root user?
[01:28] <thomerz> hi, is it possible to choose a 686 kernel with a parameter when installing ubuntu?
[01:28] <Anil> I burnt the CD first using GNOME baker... didn't work!
[01:28] <thegladiator> heartbt, the problem is that in my dektop , i have a launcher which does sudo nautilus ; but the way the icons look when i do that is really crappy
[01:28] <Xmas_Kaiser> thomerz: no
[01:28] <Anil> Then I used the LIve CD with vmware workstation - errors there too!
[01:28] <MrPrimate> i'm about to try the live cd
[01:28] <burning_bronx> Ozman, this is how the startup should look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6111
[01:29] <Anil> I'm downloading the Live CD of dapper for the third time :P
[01:29] <thegladiator> heartbt, and I did sudo -s , gnome-theme manager ; yet the icons of folders etc for "filesystem" and others that are associated with root looks crappy and bad
[01:29] <MrPrimate> damn ubuntu install don't work on this box for no reason tho
[01:29] <raphink> for no reason you can find out MrPrimate
[01:29] <heartbt> thegladiator, ohhhhhh.  See I missed that part of the problem.  Hmm
[01:29] <thegladiator> Anil, I suspect a wrong burn , ISO image shud be burn accordingly , nothing more shud cause this error AFAIK
[01:29] <burning_bronx> in the end is Ozman after you have this check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox#head-7896943ef0bfd32801dbce8faa3c2d0ba617ccb3
[01:29] <mp3guy> just wondering whats the deal on the boot-admin program? wheres it gone and whens it coming back?
[01:29] <thegladiator> heartbt, sorry :O
[01:29] <MrPrimate> raphink: ubuntu installer says my cdreader is trying to read too fast ???
[01:30] <MrPrimate> i've never heard of nothing like that.
[01:30] <raphink> interesting ;)
[01:30] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, that could be cause of incomplete icon set?
[01:30] <Anil> I'll try the third download of Dapper ISO, and if it doesn't work, I won't do it till April 2006! :P
[01:30] <pvanhoof> Anil, yesterday the install cd didn't work
[01:30] <heartbt> thegladiator, no, my fault.  I use the console for most anything root.  root has no configs for nautilis I suspect.   I dunno on that one.
[01:30] <MrPrimate> so if I got everything installed and I can boot live, how can I push grub onto this box
[01:31] <MrPrimate> since just the base won't install
[01:31] <thegladiator> heartbt, np . let me check what burning_bronx said
[01:31] <DonVincenzo> is xfree86-dga a good thing to enable with ATI cards ?
[01:31] <MrPrimate> any suggestions on that one ?
[01:32] <pvanhoof> Anil, and if you upgrade from breezy to dapper, you'll get some difficulties
[01:32] <burning_bronx> DonVincenzo, I don't think so
[01:32] <pvanhoof> but in the end it'll work .. might depend a little bit on your experience
[01:32] <pvanhoof> :)
[01:32] <pvanhoof> but don't use the iso for pulling packages from, it'll install an incorrect version of libc6 and libc6-dev
[01:33] <MrPrimate> can I upgrade from live to install? :] 
[01:33] <pvanhoof> and that'll make your system unusable as a developer workstation
[01:33] <Ozman> burning_bronx, you're startup file ... isn't it the same thing that the 'init' file ?
[01:33] <MrPrimate>  netinst for ubuntu?
[01:33] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, you are correct , it is infact caused by incomplete icons set . i am trying to kind of mix 2 icons sets . how do i do that ?
[01:33] <Ozman> burning_bronx, I used to modify the 'init' file to use my background for example
[01:33] <burning_bronx> Ozman, it's similar to the xinitrc but not to the init
[01:33] <burning_bronx> totally diff stuff
[01:34] <Anil> One nice thing I was able to do tonight - I installed XP under Ubuntu, and played Diablo on it! :D
[01:34] <pussfeller> anybody know how to complete remove ruby so I can install it clean?
[01:34] <burning_bronx> Anil,  you're  evil >.>
[01:34] <pm> wchich package contains konq_operations.h?
[01:34] <pvanhoof> Anil, the main difficulty I have with dapper right now  .. is that cups is broken
[01:34] <pm> which
[01:34] <pvanhoof> so no printing :(
[01:35] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i like this icon theme called warm noia but it has the problem i mentioned above . could u emme how can i correct it ?  is it enuf i  edit the icon folder in /usr/shar ?
[01:35] <Anil> pvanhoof, but why would you require cups? Do you need printers?
[01:35] <Sh4do0x> this the last time i formatted my pc because x-server crashes!! :'(:'(
[01:35] <pvanhoof> and the "guys" are all on holiday of course
[01:35] <MrRio> hey, i have crontab checking my email every couple of minutes, and every time crontab does something, it sends me an email, which is.. annoying
[01:35] <joe_alf> how do i change gdm with kdm? i removed gdm using update-rc.d remove then update-rc.d defaults for kdm then kdm start but i got the error Not starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.
[01:35] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, what EXACTLY is the problem?
[01:35] <Opinie> i think i need some serious help right ow
[01:35] <pm> which package contains konq_operations.h ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[01:35] <MrRio> i'd rather it only sent me an email if there is an error
[01:35] <pvanhoof> Anil, ah I thought I wouldn't need it. But you'd be surprised how often you need a printer if you can't use it! :)
[01:35] <pvanhoof> hah
[01:35] <joe_alf> how do i set it to be the default
[01:35] <Anil> pvanhoof, I have a printer at office (XP) but not at home (Ubuntu)
[01:36] <MrRio> pn: woah, no need to be rude with all the question marks
[01:36] <pvanhoof> I have printers everywhere
[01:36] <pvanhoof> :)
[01:36] <burning_bronx> I feel best @ $home
[01:36] <pvanhoof> but anyway .. dapper does work, a little bit
[01:36] <Sh4do0x> hi thegladiator :D
[01:36] <Ozman> burning_bronx, how do you explain that I hadn't got this file ?
[01:36] <pvanhoof> oh, you'll also loose your cute ubuntu mouse xcursor
[01:36] <Anil> pvanhoof how did you make dapper work? Which ISO did you download?
[01:36] <Opinie> My problem is that there's no objects on the panel where every application and so on should be seen... hope someone understood what I meen...
[01:36] <burning_bronx> no idea :|
[01:36] <pvanhoof> I'm trying to get it back, no success
[01:37] <pvanhoof> Anil, I didn't download an iso for it. I installed breezy and immediately after that upgraded to dapper
[01:37] <Ozman> burning_bronx, could it be a problem of version ? is it a new file in fluxbox ?
[01:37] <burning_bronx> shouldn't be...
[01:37] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i like this Icon theme called Warm Noia . But the icons of certains things like (nautilus in root mode) and several things are incomplete .i would like to mix 2 icon themes , i.e the default one with the noia warm icon theme
[01:37] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, hi there ;o how are ya ?
[01:37] <Anil> pvanhoof how do you upgrade to dapper? I tried, but messed up everything! :(
[01:37] <Anil> Why are some messages appearing in red?
[01:37] <Opinie> Can someone please help me? =(
[01:37] <pvanhoof> Anil, simple .. just replace every instance of breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <pvanhoof> and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:37] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator, not good, not good at all, had to format ubuntu again :'(:'(
[01:38] <pvanhoof> but comment out the backports-breezy lines
[01:38] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, when you use stuff in root mode you don't use that theme
[01:38] <heartbt> Anil, those are the angry people.  ;)
[01:38] <Ozman> burning_bronx, anyway normally synaptic is updating my fluxbox everytime so there shouldn't be a problem a old version.... (sorry for my english :-D)
[01:38] <Anil> Sh4do0x, you're right!
[01:38] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, uh oh ! are you still on 5.1 ?
[01:38] <pvanhoof> and add multiverse
[01:38] <burning_bronx> as it is only added for your user
[01:38] <pvanhoof> and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:38] <tom> doesn't dapper use /etc/network/interfaces to set up the network interfaces? all my interfaces are down since i upgraded to dapper
[01:38] <pvanhoof> and pray
[01:38] <Anil> heartb plz tell me why are some messages in red. I'm using Xchat for the first time
[01:38] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator yes
[01:38] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, looks like the only way ,
[01:38] <Xmas_Kaiser> tom it does use that yes
[01:38] <pvanhoof> during the upgrade it'll most certainly fail a few times
[01:38] <tom> Xmas_Kaiser: so why are my interfaces down? i tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:38] <heartbt> Anil, it's just a color thing, it's to make it easier to distiguish people, you don't like it?
[01:38] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, wait till you get  the breezy ! its so very buggy , 5.1
[01:38] <pvanhoof> so you'll have to fix stuff, that means removing essensial packages
[01:39] <pvanhoof> and reinstalling them
[01:39] <pvanhoof> stuff like that
[01:39] <pvanhoof> very cool, very trickery ..
[01:39] <pussfeller> failed to delete `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci': Read-only file system
[01:39] <Anil> heartbt I think you're doing something special to get your sentences in red.
[01:39] <pvanhoof> :)
[01:39] <pussfeller> wth, my file system isnt read only
[01:39] <pussfeller> !
[01:39] <ubotu> pussfeller: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:39] <Xmas_Kaiser> tom, i don't know why your interfaces are down. do you have `auto interface` for each interface?
[01:39] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator i installed my nvidia card but the start up screen did annoyed me, so i decided to set if off entering 'nologo' at a line, then the x server didn't start up :'(
[01:39] <tom> Xmas_Kaiser: no, manual configuration
[01:39] <Xmas_Kaiser> ubotu: chill out
[01:39] <ubotu> Xmas_Kaiser: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:39] <Anil> heartbt maybe xchat automatically marks all those sentences in red which begin with my name :P
[01:39] <Mina_ueh> Can anyone give an example, how python console is useful in Dia? Can't find any application to it...
[01:39] <pvanhoof> tom, output of cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep auto
[01:39] <freenik> kommt es mir nur so vor, oder werden bei den ubuntu paketen die init skripts von paketen bei deinstallationen nicht entfernt?
[01:39] <Xmas_Kaiser> tom if you don't have auto eth blah, it wont work
[01:40] <tom> pvanhoof: auto lo
[01:40] <Xmas_Kaiser> freenik: ubuntu-de
[01:40] <heartbt> Anil, your nick is red to me, cuase that is the color that is assigned to you by xchat.  When I mention your name, the whole sentance is red so you notice I'm talking to, or about, you
[01:40] <pvanhoof> tom, add the line auto eth0 to that file
[01:40] <tom> Xmas_Kaiser: i have iface eth0 inet static
[01:40] <pvanhoof> tom: echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[01:40] <heartbt> Anil, yep!
[01:40] <pvanhoof> tom, TWO >>'
[01:40] <pvanhoof> ok? NOT ONE
[01:40] <Anil> ok hearrbt, I think I got it :)
[01:40] <tom> pvanhoof: and HOW will it get the IP without DHCP ?
[01:40] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, weird! and that cause you to reinstall ?
[01:40] <pvanhoof> oh, add sudo
[01:40] <pvanhoof> tom, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:40] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, tuf luck!
[01:40] <pvanhoof> in the same file
[01:40] <Anil> Why is anil not understanding? Because he's a n00b!
[01:40] <pvanhoof> and auto eth0
[01:41] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator, could'nt repear it, need to format :'(
[01:41] <tom> pvanhoof: i don't have a dhcp server
[01:41] <pvanhoof> and then ifconfig eth0 down ; ifup eth0
[01:41] <Anil> Why is Anil not understanding? Because he's a n00b!
[01:41] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, so the nvida aint working no more ?
[01:41] <heartbt> Anil, np.  You know about the tab key?
[01:41] <pvanhoof> tom, then you shouldn't use dhcp
[01:41] <Anil> heartbt no. please tell me
[01:41] <pussfeller>  Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock  ????
[01:41] <Mina_ueh> Is there any Dia users here? Where can i apply the python console
[01:41] <tom> pvanhoof: right, ifup eth0 works. why doesn't it do ifup eth0 automatically when i boot?
[01:41] <heartbt> when you respond to this, type hea and press tab.
[01:41] <pvanhoof> tom, if you want to install a dhcp server, apt-get install dnsmasq
[01:41] <Mina_ueh> In my opinion it is useless
[01:41] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator, yes, they work, but the line "nologo" when disabling the start up nvidia screen doesn't work
[01:41] <pussfeller> now I cant use apt-get anymore?
[01:41] <pvanhoof> tom, becuase you don't have the auto eth0 line in that file
[01:42] <Anil> heartbt, it's great!
[01:42] <Xmas_Kaiser> tom, if you don't have auto eht0 to the file, it wont work. your choise to make it work or not
[01:42] <tabasko> hi o/
[01:42] <heartbt> Anil, is'nt that nice?
[01:42] <Anil> heartbt, I like it! tab key is so easy! :)
[01:42] <pvanhoof> tom: sudo echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces ; /etc/init.d/network restart
[01:42] <tabasko> what that ubuntu dvd install contains?
[01:42] <thegladiator> Sh4do0x, i see
[01:42] <Anil> heartbt, Thanks!
[01:42] <tom> pvanhoof: ok i'll try
[01:42] <Mina_ueh> So python console is pointless in Dia?
[01:42] <heartbt> Anil, yes, so when you get guys like burning_bronx who have to have long winded names, you can actuall enter them.  :)
[01:42] <Anil> Can someone tell me how to get internet activated in vmware?
[01:43] <Sh4do0x> thegladiator, but i'm reinstalling everything yet
[01:43] <Opinie> could someone help me, please?
[01:43] <pussfeller> what does /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) the remount part mean?
[01:43] <Anil> Opinie, what happened?
[01:43] <Sh4do0x> anil is that you? cmd'r?
[01:43] <burning_bronx> heartbt, my name owns you ;)
[01:43] <pvanhoof> pussfeller, if it fails, remount the same device read-only
[01:43] <Anil> Sh4do0x, do you know me?
[01:44] <pussfeller> pvanhoof: that means its ro right now?
[01:44] <Opinie> all the applications which are supposed to be seen on the panel where applications are usually seen anyway every application have vanished
[01:44] <heartbt> burning_bronx, yes, yes, it's a kewl nick.  betcha mines older!
[01:44] <Sh4do0x> anil of course :D if you study cmd i know you :P
[01:44] <pussfeller> or incase of problems
[01:44] <burning_bronx> heartbt, on freenodes
[01:44] <burning_bronx> perhaps
[01:44] <pvanhoof> pussfeller, if it failed, yes .. but unlikely
[01:44] <Anil> Sh4do0x, what's cmd?
[01:44] <heartbt> burning_bronx, no, on the net.
[01:44] <Opinie> Anil: right now I'm pretty sure you don't have any idea what's my real problem...
[01:44] <burning_bronx> mine's 5 years old.
[01:44] <pussfeller> pvanhoof: well im getting lockfile errors with apt-get
[01:44] <Anil> Opinie, hey that's great! You dont have any problems man! :)
[01:45] <pussfeller> and something aobut read only file system
[01:45] <Sh4do0x> Anil, ow nevermind than, guess i'm wrong :)
[01:45] <pvanhoof> pussfeller, that's most likely because you are already running apt-get or not doing it with sudo in front of it
[01:45] <Opinie> Anil: I think I do =(
[01:45] <heartbt> burning_bronx, gotcha.  1997, heartbt became my nick.
[01:45] <Anil> Sh4do0x, nevermind! :) cheers
[01:45] <pussfeller> hmmm
[01:45] <pussfeller> maybe i need to reboot
[01:45] <burning_bronx> good for you
[01:45] <Anil> Opinie, tell me what happened. I'll try to help with whatever I got.
[01:45] <pvanhoof> pussfeller, most likely you shouldn't reboot
[01:45] <pvanhoof> oh well ..
[01:46] <pvanhoof> :)
[01:46] <heartbt> burning_bronx, ah, no biggie.  You think of a quick easy way to cut 3gb off this partition?
[01:46] <Opinie> Anil: it's just pretty hard to explain... Every application from the panel disappeared
[01:46] <burning_bronx> what kind of partition it is?
[01:46] <Anil> Opinie, what's the big deal? You add them again!
[01:46] <pvanhoof> heartbt, is the partition a LVM2?
[01:46] <Opinie> I mean from the panel where you can usually see if you have something like firefox on
[01:47] <heartbt> burning_bronx, no.  hold on I'll get the specs
[01:47] <Opinie> or x-chat
[01:47] <pvanhoof> heartbt, in that case, lvresize -L newsize /dev/yourgroup/yourpartition ; resize2fs /dev/yourgroup/yourpartition
[01:47] <heartbt> burning_bronx, no way.
[01:47] <pvanhoof> it's documented in the LVM2 docs
[01:47] <burning_bronx> ?
[01:47] <Anil> Opinie, ok ok I get you. You mean the open applications are not showing in the taskbar, right?
[01:48] <Opinie> Anil: yeah... it was just hard to find the right words =)
[01:48] <heartbt> bur brb
[01:48] <heartbt> burning_bronx, brb
[01:48] <Opinie> Anil: So can you help me?
[01:49] <Anil> Opinie, right click on the panel where you want to place taskbars, click "add to panel", and type "window" in the search bar.
[01:49] <Anil> Opinie, then choose the "window list" and click OK
[01:50] <Anil> Opinie, done?
[01:50] <Opinie> eeeh nope...
[01:50] <Anil> Opinie, it's pretty easy, just follow what I said above.
[01:50] <Opinie> Anil: ok thanks got it working
[01:50] <Anil> Opinie, great! :)
[01:51] <Anil> Opinie, remember you can add so many things to the panel! Why not experiment right now? :)
[01:51] <saleh> ubotu, !repos
[01:51] <ubotu> saleh: I haven't a clue
[01:51] <Ozman> re burning_bronx , I've created the 'startup' file in  ~/.fluxbox/ with what you pasted me.... I've added the command for the app I wanna launch, but it seems that fluxbox is not reading this file during startup .. because it does nothing
[01:51] <burning_bronx> sry went afk for a sec
[01:51] <heartbt> burning_bronx, ha!  rtfm, rtfm.  Man, I should get that tattoo'd somewhere.  thx, bbiab
[01:51] <Opinie> Anil: I've experimented it a bit already before but just didn't know how to do that...
[01:51] <saleh> ubotu, ! repos
[01:51] <ubotu> saleh: What?
[01:51] <Anil> Can someone tell me how to enable internet in VMware?
[01:52] <Opinie> Anil: But thanks for helping and merry christmas
[01:52] <Anil> Opinie, merry christmas to you too! :)
[01:52] <Ozman> burning_bronx, you can see my file 'startup' at : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/startup
[01:53] <Ozman> I think it is good... I've just changed the background and added an app
[01:53] <burning_bronx> Ozman, how do you start fluxbox?
[01:54] <johndarkhorse> burning_bronx: at your login window, click sessions
[01:54] <Ozman> burning_bronx, like I start gnome of the failsafe term session, in the ubuntu menu
[01:54] <burning_bronx> i c
[01:54] <saleh> am on ubuntu 6.04 and i want to install epiphany but i can not
[01:54] <burning_bronx> johndarkhorse, I wasn't asking you
[01:55] <burning_bronx> Ozman, so you tried modifying xinitrc?
[01:55] <johndarkhorse> burning_bronx: please don't be rude
[01:55] <burning_bronx> but in order for it to work you have to symlink it to Xsession
[01:55] <burning_bronx> johndarkhorse, I am not being rude. Sorry if it seemed that way.
[01:56] <Ozman> burning_bronx, I tried, adding '. /usr/bin/gdesklets' in the line after '. /etc/X11/Xsession'
[01:56] <Ozman> burning_bronx, but it did nothing, so I've put the old xinitrc file again
[01:56] <tom> is the "Applications" menu known to be broken in dapper ?
[01:56] <saleh> i want the repos of breezy anyone ?
[01:56] <burning_bronx> Ozman, have you tried going to console starting with startx to see if the file actually does what it has to?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell saleh  about sources
[01:57] <kaminix> What's the free javaextension for firefox called?
[01:57] <Ozman> burning_bronx, no, but what's the difference ?
[01:57] <nmsa> how do I start a language selector for icewm?
[01:57] <burning_bronx> Ozman, with gdm you load through Xsession and with startx you load the xinitrc
[01:58] <burning_bronx> you following?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> gcj i think kaminix  but i dont remember i get jre
[01:58] <Ozman> burning_bronx, but xinitrc loads Xsession
[01:59] <Ozman> burning_bronx, thats all what it does !
[01:59] <holycow> http://dura.cell.free.fr/home/images/parisbynight.jpg  <-- neato
[01:59] <burning_bronx> not quite
[01:59] <cirkit_> my ubuntu repositories are not updating, keeps failing...where could I find an updated repos list to replace my current /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[01:59] <nmsa> burning_bronx, do you know which is the language selector sw that I can use in icewm?
[01:59] <burning_bronx> haven't dealed with IceWM
[01:59] <kaminix> Will the plugins that work with Firefox for Linux work with Firefox for Windows?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cirkit_ about sources
[02:00] <Ozman> burning_bronx, => http://nico.aunai.free.fr/xinitrc <=
[02:00] <gnomefreak> kaminix,  there are easier to install on windows lol
[02:00] <uhuh> hi all!! first off: happy hollidays.
[02:00] <kaminix> But will the same plugins work?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> you too uhuh
[02:01] <uhuh> second: got a problem with installing ubuntu ;)
[02:01] <kaminix> I want to copy my Firefox plugins to Portable Firefox on my USB stick
[02:01] <Skies> how can I use my ntfs-hard drive on ubuntu? :P
[02:01] <gnomefreak> kaminix,  i dont know i wouldnt think so since the souce is wrote different
[02:01] <gnomefreak> but i really dont know
[02:02] <evglabbeek> ?
[02:02] <uhuh> ok, i've installed suse in a far past but since i'm not a die hard computer user i always stayed with windows. but it seems ubuntu might help me to get rid of microsoft...
[02:02] <Xmas_Kaiser> hi gnomefreak
[02:02] <gnomefreak> hi Xmas_Kaiser
[02:02] <Xmas_Kaiser> seen ajmitch recently?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> not me
[02:03] <jenda> me neither
[02:03] <burning_bronx> Ozman, check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[02:03] <Xmas_Kaiser> hm. ok. havent spokent to him for a few weeks
[02:03] <uhuh> i installed it yesterday, and all went fine, except for this one thing: when the computer is boot, i get a scrambled screen (i think the login screen). i do see my mouse-pointer, but background is all stripes (and no stars, heh)
[02:03] <burning_bronx> works for fluxbox - I should know >.>
[02:03] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Skies about ntfs
[02:05] <burning_bronx> also Ozman you can try the fluxbox channel - even thought I have a custom fluxbox I am not such a guru when it comes to the insides
[02:05] <burning_bronx> >.>
[02:05] <uhuh> all else is shown properly, just the login isn't. could it be my screen isn't recognized?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> uhuh, did you try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:05] <Ozman> burning_bronx, ok I'll try :) thx
[02:06] <scapor> Hi, does someone here who runs an Ubuntu breezy system interested in testing the ubuntu pakcage for the upcoming aMSN 0.95 release ? please contact me.
[02:06] <burning_bronx> scapor, you should ask the people running dapper
[02:07] <burning_bronx> breezy isn't accepting anything but security updates
[02:07] <burning_bronx> new software goes to dapper
[02:07] <scapor> burning_bronx: why ? I'm running dapper myself but I want to make sure it works fine on breezy
[02:07] <uhuh> gnomefreak: i know nothing whatsoever working with linux, so i haven't tried that. do i enter that line when i boot it in the recovery-mode? when there's "user@root"?
[02:07] <johndarkhorse> uhuh: please don't use 'root
[02:07] <Sh4do0x> brb need a reboot
[02:07] <burning_bronx> scapor, unless you want to backport to breezy that's pointless
[02:07] <qgil> hi there: in a ubuntu default install, how many minutes a user gets root permissions after sudo-ing?
[02:07] <qgil> 5 o r 15?
[02:07] <grajul> hello i am very new at linux can anyone please help me im having a little trouble installing some thimg
[02:08] <scapor> burning_bronx: we want to put a pakcage online that works on breezy
[02:08] <robotgeek> scapor: please chk your server window
[02:08] <scapor> burning_bronx: so ubuntu users don't have to wait for dapper but can download the package from our website
[02:08] <gnomefreak> uhuh,  on a command line type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:09] <burning_bronx> scapor, what kind of package that is?
[02:09] <heri> help. I want to install gstreamer0.8-lame. What repos do I need to enable?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !info gstreamer
[02:09] <Dmon> how unstable is Dapper?
[02:09] <grajul> hello can some one pleasa help me i need some quick help
[02:09] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, what happened to j00?
[02:09] <heri> !info gstreamer
[02:09] <gnomefreak> jj00?
[02:09] <scapor> burning_bronx: I just made a .deb package with some changes for ubuntu
[02:09] <gnomefreak> j00?
[02:09] <burning_bronx> you
[02:10] <burning_bronx> it's a bad habit from online games to use elite (1337)
[02:10] <uhuh> ah, ok, i'll try that one. really should get a book on this stuff, hehe. thanks and enjoy xmass!
[02:10] <johndarkhorse> heri: enable universe and multiverse
[02:10] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell heri about repos
[02:10] <gnomefreak> after upgrading to dapper xchat doesnt connect the sources all stat they dont work and gaim cant connect but FF can connect
[02:10] <heri> I've enabled it
[02:10] <scapor> robotgeek: check your server window ;)
[02:11] <heri> by removing all comments from /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:11] <robotgeek> scapor: did not get anything, sorry.  can i /msg ?
[02:11] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, you sure you had your network interface enabled?
[02:11] <heri> johndarkhorse: I've enabled it by removing all comments from /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx, yeah i would think since FF was able to browse?
[02:12] <grajul> i need some help installing a .run file i am brand new to this to day is my 2 day on linux please help me
[02:12] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, there is caching in browsers you know
[02:12] <gnomefreak> oh
[02:12] <gnomefreak> didnt think of that
[02:12] <grajul> hello
[02:12] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell grajul about cli
[02:13] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, some people have disabled network interface after dapper upgrade
[02:13] <burning_bronx> if that's the case just enable it and it should work from that point on >.>
[02:13] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx, it didnt give me a choice to or not it couldnt grab alot of libs so i had to apt-get -f install a few times
[02:14] <burning_bronx> sigh
[02:14] <burning_bronx> why does it have to be so painful to people
[02:14] <gnomefreak> cause its in dev stage?
[02:15] <burning_bronx> I haven't had serious issues in using it
[02:15] <burning_bronx> and upgrading from breezy was so painless
[02:15] <gnomefreak> thats 2 times i tried and both failled same way
[02:16] <gnomefreak> hoary to breezy was fairly painless
[02:16] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: you having issues?
[02:16] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, have you tried burning a Flight CD and installing from that?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> just the upgrade from breezy to dapper i had issues with that but reinstalled breezy
[02:17] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx,  no i havent i didnt know if they were avlible yet
[02:17] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: what went wrong with your upgrade?
[02:17] <bDerrly> using dapper, after upgrading alsa no longer starts up on boot up, anyone else experience this?
[02:17] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, Flight 1 has been available for quite some time and Flight 2 is out too
[02:17] <gnomefreak> FF is only thing that connects to net
[02:17] <burning_bronx> using dapper everything but gnomebaker works.
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ok ill look for it brb
[02:18] <burning_bronx> and I don't use that anyway
[02:18] <qgil> reading the sudo manpages.... I'd say Ubuntu is put on the default 15 minutes of time sudo efect lasts, can anyone confirm that Ubuntu hasnt' touched this?
[02:18] <burning_bronx> !flight
[02:18] <ubotu> burning_bronx: No idea
[02:18] <burning_bronx> hmm
[02:18] <burning_bronx> !dapper
[02:18] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:18] <qgil> I've seen in somedocs that thos time would be 5 minutes after sudo-ing...
[02:18] <Xmas_Kaiser> qgil: i cant confirm, but i think it's 15
[02:19] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, you can get the daily build from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[02:19] <burning_bronx> and then you can tell me how much you love me ;)
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok ty burning_bronx
[02:19] <ossie> anyone can help ive installed the new i686 kernel, but i still dont have hyperthreading
[02:19] <qgil> Xmas_Kaiser, thank you... I think I'll go for the 15 minutes assumption (writing an Ubuntu guide for basic users, that's why)
[02:19] <ossie> its running really slow
[02:20] <Xmas_Kaiser> qgil: i see. try asking in -devel, someone there might know (even though they wont lik eyou asking there)
[02:20] <burning_bronx> ossie, are you sure you installed the right kernel? there is i686 and i686 with smp
[02:20] <burning_bronx> >.>
[02:20] <Xmas_Kaiser> how do i get ntp to update my clock?
[02:20] <Xmas_Kaiser> ntpdate?
[02:20] <valentinos> i have an amd64 will you peole recomend the 64 bit version ?
[02:20] <ossie> burning_bronx, will uname -a tell me?
[02:20] <burning_bronx> go for uname -r
[02:20] <bDerrly> Xmas_Kaiser, yes, ntpdate works but i would recommend ntpd
[02:21] <Xmas_Kaiser> valentinos: you will have more prolbems then the 32bit version
[02:21] <burning_bronx> and tell me what you get
[02:21] <Xmas_Kaiser> bDerrly: thanks. I'll lookinto it
[02:21] <bDerrly> ntpdate is a one time shot, ntpd updates on intervals automacially
[02:21] <gnomefreak> i will let you know in somewhere around 6 hrs :(
[02:21] <Xmas_Kaiser> thanks.
[02:21] <ossie> 2.6.12-it821x its gives me that, which is my custom built i386 with support ofr ite raid
[02:21] <bDerrly> Xmas_Kaiser, if you install ntpd package you just enable ntpd and it should start up on boot
[02:22] <Xmas_Kaiser> bDerrly: well my clock is 76 seconds off, so i think my configs are failed, but I'll look at it. thanks
[02:22] <valentinos> Xmas_Kaiser, you try it ?
[02:22] <ossie> burning_bronx, what u think ? im not utilising the new kernel?
[02:22] <bDerrly> ah yes, ntpd won't fix the time if it is off by that much
[02:22] <Xmas_Kaiser> valentinos: no, but i have seen people come here for help
[02:22] <burning_bronx> ossie, after you've installed the new kernel have you rebooted?
[02:23] <ossie> yes
[02:23] <Xmas_Kaiser> bDerrly: so ntpdate to bring it in sync one off?
[02:23] <ossie> but it seems to load the same kernel
[02:23] <burning_bronx> so you didn't pick which kernel to use?
[02:23] <ossie> no maybe not
[02:23] <ossie> how i do that please :)
[02:23] <burning_bronx> it should be in the grub startup menu
[02:23] <burning_bronx> :|
[02:24] <ossie> didnt get no menu it just loads
[02:24] <burning_bronx> hmmmmm
[02:24] <bDerrly> Xmas_Kaiser, yes, ntpdate will fix it if off by a lot
[02:24] <Xmas_Kaiser> thanks
[02:25] <burning_bronx> ossie, maybe you should concider installing grub
[02:25] <Xmas_Kaiser> i found why ntpd isnt working - no servers ;)
[02:25] <ossie> ok burning_bronx , is it likely to screw my system?
[02:25] <burning_bronx> no - it's just a bootloader
[02:25] <burning_bronx> just do a sudo apt-get install grub
[02:26] <burning_bronx> should auto-configure
[02:26] <burning_bronx> then restart your system
[02:26] <burning_bronx> check what kernels you got
[02:26] <ossie> ok
[02:26] <ossie> cheers
[02:26] <ossie> already installed
[02:26] <burning_bronx> ossie,
[02:26] <burning_bronx> reboot?
[02:26] <burning_bronx> :)
[02:26] <grajul> hello um im new to linux and i was wondering if some one can walk me through installing a .run file
[02:26] <burning_bronx> you should see grub
[02:27] <ossie> burning_bronx, what is the command to select to use the new kernel, before i reboot, i think i have forgot it
[02:27] <burning_bronx> ossie, you just select it from the grub menu at bootup
[02:27] <burning_bronx> :)
[02:27] <El> Bom dia tem algum que fala portugus?
[02:27] <burning_bronx> !portuguese
[02:27] <ubotu> burning_bronx: Not a clue
[02:28] <burning_bronx> !portugese
[02:28] <ubotu> burning_bronx: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:28] <burning_bronx> darn
[02:28] <burning_bronx> !portugal
[02:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, burning_bronx
[02:28] <El> Bom dia tem algum que fala portugus?
[02:28] <burning_bronx> darn
[02:28] <El> Brasil
[02:28] <burning_bronx> ah!
[02:28] <burning_bronx> !brasl
[02:28] <ubotu> burning_bronx: What?
[02:28] <burning_bronx> !brasil
[02:28] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, burning_bronx
[02:28] <burning_bronx> -_-;
[02:28] <burning_bronx> >.>
[02:28] <burning_bronx> screw that
[02:28] <El> what?
[02:28] <burning_bronx> El, there should be a brasilian channel
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !br
[02:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[02:28] <skon> Did anyone install the new kernel yet?
[02:28] <burning_bronx> darn
[02:28] <ossie> o ki will try a reboot
[02:29] <burning_bronx> I say shoot
[02:29] <burning_bronx> :)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:29] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, downloading that flight?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> i can never rememver purtugals country code but it brings up br anyway
[02:29] <grajul> can any one help me pleas im brand new to linux i just need some quick help
[02:29] <gnomefreak> yep only 6hr and 23 mins left :(
[02:29] <skon> grajul: just ask your question
[02:30] <gnomefreak> !someone
[02:30] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:30] <Astxist> grajul, sure :)
[02:30] <grajul> i am trying to install a .run file i got it to work once but then it said i had no permition to install it how do i install it then
[02:30] <kingstar518> my system log was wrong,what can I do?
[02:30] <Fujoor> a small question, does one HAVE to have xdm, wdm or whatever? if you just have one wm, you need any wdm or xdm, right?
[02:31] <pierangelo> how is it possible to run ubuntu with an ultra ata 133 controler
[02:31] <gnomefreak> permission =sudo
[02:32] <burning_bronx> Fujoor, you can go without those but then again they are recommended
[02:32] <burning_bronx> unless you really love the CLI that is
[02:32] <burning_bronx> >.>
[02:32] <Astxist> grajul, 'sudo <command>'
[02:33] <skon> Has anyone installed the new kernel? I tried installing it using apt-get dist-upgrade and it's returning me some error messages like E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:33] <grajul> astxist: i got it to ask my password with the sudo command so i entered it then it went to another line under that so what do i do now
[02:34] <Astxist> be happy it worked :) ?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:34] <grajul> okay so what do i do to get the installer to come up then
[02:35] <Astxist> grajul, what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:35] <grajul> i am installing doom 3
[02:35] <grajul> no wait im installing nvidia driver
[02:35] <Astxist> heh, now that I can't really help with
[02:35] <skon> Nobody knows how to install a new kernel?
[02:36] <Astxist> that either
[02:36] <gnomefreak> skon, what kernel are you trying to install?
[02:36] <Xmas_Kaiser> skon: can you be more specifiica bout the error (not just code (1))
[02:36] <grajul> i am try to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[02:37] <gnomefreak> skon,  if its a regular updated kernel sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should grab it
[02:37] <grajul> so then how do you install this
[02:37] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[02:37] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:37] <skon> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:37] <skon>  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[02:37] <skon>  linux-image-2.6.10-6-386
[02:37] <skon>  linux-image-386
[02:37] <skon>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-386
[02:37] <skon>  linux-restricted-modules-386
[02:38] <Xmas_Kaiser> hm. i should have warned him to pastebin it
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> skon: please read the /topic
[02:38] <gnomefreak> 2.6.10????????
[02:38] <skon> sorry
[02:38] <Xmas_Kaiser> sorry skon, can you use pastebin ?:)
[02:38] <skon> k hold on
[02:39] <grajul> that is easy okay. one last question what command would i use after sudo to install doom 3.run then
[02:40] <grajul> ok
[02:40] <Nilz> hi, I have a problem with NAT, I run ubuntu with 2 NICs and sharing the internet connection with my windows laptop
[02:40] <Ubunti_Ki> i can not install GPC
[02:40] <Astxist> gnomefreak, why?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install doom3 or doom-3 doesnt work?
[02:40] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: didnt we cover this 4 hours ago?
[02:40] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: no it ownt :)
[02:40] <Xmas_Kaiser> *wont
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Astxist, atleast i have never noticed a .run file before
[02:41] <Astxist> gnomefreak, ah ok I was just wondering if it was something to be avoided :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> i also dont play games on this pc :)
[02:41] <grajul> we did but it said i dont have permitions to install on hd
[02:41] <Astxist> gnomefreak, heh
[02:42] <grajul> i realized that after the fact
[02:42] <gnomefreak> no Astxist  ive just never ran into them that i have seen before
[02:42] <Evil_Whisper> Hi guys
[02:42] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: `sudo ./Desktop/doom*.bin`
[02:42] <Xmas_Kaiser> oh ok grajul
[02:42] <gnomefreak> grajul, sudo will give you permission
[02:42] <gnomefreak> as long as you are a sudoer
[02:42] <skon> Okay Xmas_kaiser: I put it on the pastebin, would you be so kind as to take a look?
[02:42] <Xmas_Kaiser> skon: can i have a link please
[02:43] <Xmas_Kaiser> I'll have a look then :)
[02:43] <Nilz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6113
[02:43] <skon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6112
[02:43] <heri> help! I've used sources.list from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 but there's no w32codecs and libdivx4linux
[02:43] <Nilz> here are the settings
[02:43] <Xmas_Kaiser> thanks
[02:43] <Nilz> skon: ;)
[02:43] <gnomefreak> oh come on Xmas_Kaiser  i had to go search for someones yesterday :(
[02:43] <Evil_Whisper> My Xserver breaks every time I install the nvidia 8178 drivers somthing about the kernel module doesn't match the driver or somthing
[02:43] <Xmas_Kaiser> lol gnomefreak
[02:44] <burning_bronx> !w32codecs
[02:44] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:44] <Nilz> anyway http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6113 are the settings I use for NAT, and it doesn't work with these settings, ping goes through without any problems, I did setup the DNS addresses etc..
[02:44] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: after i did the sudo and typed in my password what do i do to get the installer
[02:44] <Nilz> amu ideas?
[02:44] <skon> Nilz: why is your public IP your default gatewaqy?
[02:44] <Evil_Whisper> but I used the installer from nvidia.com and it compiled a nvidia kernel module
[02:44] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: that should launch the installer
[02:44] <Nilz> skon: for some strange reason my internet connection didn't work
[02:44] <Nilz> skon: when I activated eth0
[02:44] <grajul> it only went down a line after the password
[02:44] <budluva> hrmm
[02:45] <Nilz> skon: my system probably assumed that eth0 was a primary interface or smth...
[02:45] <skon> Nilz: so why don't you try setting it to your router or something?
[02:45] <Nilz> skon: what router?
[02:45] <Xmas_Kaiser> skon: could you enable all the other sources (like main) and try again?
[02:45] <budluva> if i have a new agp gfx card that supports 8x, but my motherboard only supports 4x should i have any problems getting it running? or just notice that it wont run at full steam?
[02:45] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo .Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[02:45] <grajul> Password:
[02:45] <grajul> Sorry, try again.
[02:45] <grajul> Password:
[02:45] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$
[02:45] <Nilz> skon: ok here is how it works my ubuntu machine is connected to the internet with eth1 directly, and eth0 is my home LAN network
[02:45] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: her is what my konsole says
[02:45] <skon> Xmas_kaiser: k I guesss I'll try
[02:46] <gnomefreak> grajul, looks like your not a sudoer who installed ubuntu on that pc?
[02:46] <grajul> what does that mean
[02:46] <gnomefreak> grajul,  who installed ubuntu on that pc?
[02:46] <skon> Nilz: hmm...so you don't have internet access directly right now?
[02:46] <Nilz> skon: I fo
[02:46] <Nilz> skon: I do
[02:47] <grajul> i did with the download iso on kubuntu website
[02:47] <Nilz> skon: but computers from my home LAN can't connect to the internet
[02:47] <Nilz> skon: NAT doesn't work
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ok when you set it up it asked for user name and password right?
[02:47] <Ubunti_Ki> ill be back
[02:47] <Xmas_Kaiser> skon: cannot determine root device, that looks nasty, I'm trying to think what could be causign that error
[02:47] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo .Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[02:47] <grajul> Password:
[02:47] <grajul> Sorry, try again.
[02:47] <grajul> Password:
[02:47] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$
[02:48] <gnomefreak> that passwword you typed in when installing ubuntu is the password you need to use
[02:48] <xenex> good night
[02:48] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo .Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[02:48] <grajul> Password:
[02:48] <grajul> Sorry, try again.
[02:48] <grajul> Password:
[02:48] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$
[02:48] <gnomefreak> grajul,  to paste please use pastebin
[02:48] <thux> Hi, I got breezy-amd64 and its /chroot breezy-x86, and when I want to run x86 app I have dchroot -d in terminal then command, but how could I launch X app directly from panel? Can I set breezy-64 panel command like dchroot -d skype or dchroot -d azureus ?
[02:48] <skon> Xmas_kaiser: okay...uh that doesn't sound good...at least I don't have anything (literally) on this computer besides some ISO files
[02:48] <gnomefreak> sorry i was getting there :(
[02:48] <Xmas_Kaiser> btw. sudo ./Desktop grajul, not .Desktop
[02:48] <johndarkhorse> grajul: please read the /topic
[02:49] <skon> thux: you want a panel shortcut?
[02:49] <thux> skon: yes
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Xmas_Kaiser,  that wouldnt cause the permsion error would it?
[02:49] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: no
[02:49] <skon> thux: click on black panel, add to panel, custom application launcher, then type in the commands you want
[02:49] <Xmas_Kaiser> but it will stuff him up when he gets past the perms :)
[02:50] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: can you type "id `whoami`"
[02:50] <Hanzo> please can as many of you as possible check if i successfully configured HTTPd Apache/2.0.55 webserver please!!! the address is http://vpn81.no-ip.org:58000/
[02:50] <Xmas_Kaiser> and give us the results?
[02:50] <thux> skon: ok I try that
[02:50] <Xmas_Kaiser> Hanzo: your there
[02:50] <Xmas_Kaiser> i get the test page
[02:50] <Hanzo> does it work????
[02:50] <skon> Hanzo?: works
[02:50] <Xmas_Kaiser> yes
[02:51] <Hanzo> my isp chokes/blocks port 80
[02:51] <grajul> so what properties am i missing
[02:51] <gnomefreak> to change the password for sudoer you would need old one right/
[02:51] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: hm?
[02:51] <grajul> i have it
[02:52] <gnomefreak> grajul,  does it work now?
[02:52] <ElitePete> Hanzo, i believe you can re-direct to port 80
[02:52] <grajul> let me see
[02:52] <gnomefreak> grajul, try a simple sudo apt-get update see if it lets you do it
[02:52] <xophEr> What repository should I use if I want to get the latest updates for my applications? Using Breezy. TIA
[02:52] <Hanzo> ElitePete, its ok it was just to see if i could mangage it. :)
[02:52] <uber_spaced> when compiling mod_perl i get this error:
[02:52] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: if you  open the sudoers file properly, you've give the old password to do it
[02:53] <thux> skon: thanks seems to work
[02:53] <uber_spaced> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[02:53] <skon> thux: sure, welcome
[02:53] <ButtBrain> Aloha people!
[02:53] <Xmas_Kaiser> xophEr: your sources list with Breezy-updates, or do you mean backports?
[02:53] <uber_spaced> which package should I install to get the file that the error referrs to?
[02:53] <uber_spaced> i have perl installed
[02:53] <johndarkhorse> xophEr: the same repos you used to install breezy are the ones for any updates (only security updates will come down for breezy, btw)
[02:53] <uber_spaced> is there some perl development package?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Xmas_Kaiser,  i think he means backports but just a guess
[02:53] <ButtBrain> Got a couple of questions. How can I prevent X windows from starting up during a boot.
[02:53] <phreak97> heeey
[02:54] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ButtBrain about bum
[02:54] <phreak97> i want to get into linux
[02:54] <phreak97> im currently running ubuntu
[02:54] <Astxist> about bum!? x.x
[02:54] <Xmas_Kaiser> hi phreak97
[02:54] <ButtBrain> whass that?
[02:54] <xophEr> Xmas_Kaiser, backports I believe yes.
[02:54] <gnomefreak> thats  agood start phreak97
[02:54] <johndarkhorse> ButtBrain: if you check your priv msgs, you'll see
[02:54] <skon> hello phreak97, ask if you have any questions
[02:54] <phreak97> well..
[02:54] <phreak97> i just got it installed
[02:55] <grajul> Xmax_kaiser: it now says grajul is not in the sudoers fil
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell xophEr  about sources
[02:55] <Xmas_Kaiser> phreak97: what side of Adelaide
[02:55] <phreak97> and i want to get everything going, codecs, my other partitions, etc
[02:55] <uber_spaced> phreak97, install vlc, start using firefox
[02:55] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: does it have an %admin line?
[02:55] <phreak97> but coming from windows, i dont know much command line stuff
[02:55] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: visit help.ubuntu.com and you'll find all the answers to your questions
[02:55] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: the ones you don't find the answers to, we'll help you in here
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phreak97  about commands
[02:55] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: what is that
[02:55] <phreak97> ok, thanks
[02:55] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell phreak97 about cli
[02:56] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: also check your PMs, for more info
[02:56] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: did you open the sudoesr file using visudo?
[02:56] <kakei> merry xmas
[02:56] <Xmas_Kaiser> merry xmas kakei
[02:56] <grajul> nope
[02:56] <Xmas_Kaiser> you should
[02:57] <uber_spaced> well, i answered my own question; apparently i need something like lib-perl dev or something
[02:57] <grajul> Xmas_kaiser: it said visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[02:57] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: you may need to reboot into rescue mode, but we will com eback to that
[02:58] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: run `id $whoami`
[02:58] <Xmas_Kaiser> and either pastebin it or /msg it to me
[02:58] <Xmas_Kaiser> you will have to pastebin (your not reg'd to nickserv)
[02:58] <NewIRC> good morning to all
[02:58] <Xmas_Kaiser> hi NewIRC
[02:58] <burning_bronx> anyone here using grub2?
[02:59] <grajul> Xmas_kaiser it just keeps on saying that visudo error wont let me put any thing into the konsole
[02:59] <grajul> Xmas_kaiser: it just keeps on saying that visudo error wont let me put any thing into the konsole
[02:59] <skon> do I need to install python to get the pastebin script to work?
[02:59] <johndarkhorse> grajul: use "sudo visudo" to open
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> skon: to run on your own server
[03:00] <grajul> okay that opened it up
[03:00] <SirKillalot> I have installed libqt4-dev to compile a program, but it always says for example qstring.h not found, the file is in /usr/include/qt4/Qt/ but I think the code doesnt know exactly where to look for the file, how can I solve my problem?
[03:00] <uber_spaced> what's the command to search for a package on apt?
[03:00] <skon> johndarkhorse: okay, well when I do sudo pastebin --install I get Error parsing arguments
[03:01] <xophEr> Where can I browse the backport repository? Like is there a list of what it contains?
[03:01] <Fujoor> guys, i have installed a server install with ubuntu and xfce4, but it doesnt seem to have a terminal, which one do you recommend? gnome-terminal? xterm? aterm?
[03:01] <johndarkhorse> skon: i'm not familiar with what you are trying to do
[03:01] <grajul> Xmas_kaiser: i got the id $whoami to work now what do i do
[03:01] <Xmas_Kaiser> what's your id?
[03:01] <grajul> uid=1000(grajul) gid=1000(grajul) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),1000(grajul)
[03:01] <Xmas_Kaiser> your first two should be 1000 like this: uid=1000(kgoetz) gid=1000(kgoetz)
[03:01] <Xmas_Kaiser> ok. your first user (so sudoer, just watned to make sure)
[03:02] <grajul> okay
[03:02] <skon> johndarkhorse: on the ubuntu pastebin there is a script that supposedly lets you pipe output right to the pastebin from the cmd line...I just wnat to set it up on my comp here
[03:02] <Xmas_Kaiser> skon: yeh, i have that here (somewhere)
[03:03] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: so then what should i do
[03:03] <neoxan> Join #xmas-suck
[03:03] <johndarkhorse> skon: can you give me the link to the pastebin in question (there are many)
[03:03] <neoxan> for everyone who hates xmas
[03:03] <neoxan> :)
[03:03] <g0th> Hi, I installed Ubuntu and afterwards windows, now I'm trying to get ubuntu booting again, how can I do that?
[03:03] <skon> johndarkhorse: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[03:03] <grajul> did you use grub
[03:03] <g0th> yes
[03:03] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: seems your a suder, so we should try that doom 3 installer again
[03:03] <g0th> I tried to install grub again
[03:03] <grajul> ok
[03:03] <g0th> from the installation cd
[03:04] <g0th> but it failed
[03:04] <uber_spaced> how do I use apt to see what file comes with what package?
[03:04] <Fujoor> common, please, im waiting here at the install screen, what terminal do you guys recommend for xcfe4
[03:04] <johndarkhorse> uber_spaced: open a console and type "man apt-cache"
[03:04] <Xmas_Kaiser> Fujoor: what?
[03:05] <g0th> grajul: so, what can I do?
[03:05] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: i ran it and it went to another line it did not even ask my password.
[03:05] <g0th> grajul: I only know lilo, there I can simply chroot to the system from the installation cd boot, and run lilo, but what do I do with grub?
[03:05] <uber_spaced> johndarkhorse, thanks.
[03:05] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: can you run `ls -lh ~/Desktop/doom*` please?
[03:06] <MrPrimate> if anyone remembers my hating on ubuntu install, apparently the cdrom is bad
[03:06] <stylez023> hallootjes
[03:06] <Fujoor> xmas: what terminal is to recommend when using xfce4?
[03:06] <michael> can so meone help me
[03:06] <MrPrimate> live cd says to check integrity of cdrom too
[03:06] <Fujoor> xmas: something light but still fancy
[03:06] <CiRkiT> I updated my respositories but whe I do apt-get update I get: E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[03:06] <johndarkhorse> michael: just ask your question
[03:06] <Xmas_Kaiser> CiRkiT: did you sudo?
[03:06] <phreak97> hmm
[03:06] <michael> mmm, i went into the terminal enter su then my root password, but it wont acceapt my root password, im updating atm could that be a problem?
[03:07] <phreak97> i was having that problem.. i guess cos i forgot sudo
[03:07] <uhuh> back again aka problem not fixed :)
[03:07] <Xmas_Kaiser> michael: use sudo
[03:07] <gnomefreak> michael,  dont use su use sudo
[03:07] <Xmas_Kaiser> !tell michael about rootsudo
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> michael: there is no root pasword
[03:07] <onkarshinde> CiRkiT: Paste your sources.list in pastebin
[03:07] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: it now says-r-x------  1 grajul grajul 463M 2005-12-23 23:21 /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:07] <michael> thanks and merry christmas, its christmas here in australia
[03:08] <uhuh> i installed ubuntu successfully, yet login screen still comes out scrambles, even after using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:08] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: now run `sudo /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run`
[03:08] <gnomefreak> chrismas in summer?
[03:08] <Xmas_Kaiser> uhuh: can you be more specific?
[03:08] <Xmas_Kaiser> gnomefreak: what's your problem with that?
[03:08] <CiRkiT> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:08] <CiRkiT> that is my source list
[03:08] <gnomefreak> there isnt one just im so used to it being in winter
[03:08] <Xmas_Kaiser> lol.
[03:09] <Xmas_Kaiser> sif xmas in winter
[03:09] <Xmas_Kaiser> *looks sideways at gnomefreak*
[03:09] <king> Hi folks!
[03:09] <Xmas_Kaiser> ;)
[03:09] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:09] <skon> johndarkhorse: any idea how to set that up?
[03:09] <michael> can someone help modify grub boot list so win xp is at the top or boots in the 10 second countdown, instead of ubuntu, i mostly use win xp, i use ubuntu most times, but want win xp to boot in that 10 sec time frame how do i modfiy it?
[03:09] <onkarshinde> Xmas_Kaiser: I am in India. It is winter here. I am also used to Chrismas in Winter
[03:09] <Xmas_Kaiser> hi king :)
[03:09] <Xmas_Kaiser> onkarshinde: I'm in Australia, so I'm not :)
[03:09] <uhuh> Xmas_Kaiser: i installed ubuntu (for AMD64) and everything went well during install. but when i boot, the screen which i guess is the login-screen, comes out scrambled: i only see lines. i did try the "sudo dpkg-..." and it detected my monitor correctly, yet didn't do much good either.
[03:09] <zul> oh my god
[03:09] <king> Can someone tell me how to make gcc on amd64 compile programs ?
[03:10] <grajul> 1 grajul grajul 463M 2005-12-23 23:21 /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:10] <grajul> bash: -r-x------: command not found
[03:10] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:it said
[03:10] <Xmas_Kaiser> michael: set the boot number 5
[03:10] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: oh sorry
[03:10] <onkarshinde> CiRkiT: I asked you to copy and paste your sources.list in pastebin.
[03:10] <gnomefreak> michael,  if you look in the help menu at the breezy guide it should have a walkthrough of that under tips and tricks
[03:10] <grajul> what does that mea
[03:10] <michael> xmas how do i do that, soz im a noob
[03:10] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul run `sudo /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run`
[03:10] <Xmas_Kaiser> no ls
[03:10] <michael> thanks
[03:10] <zul> anyone from russia?
[03:10] <g0th> thanks
[03:10] <king> 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Breezy Badger
[03:10] <burning_bronx> nah
[03:10] <burning_bronx> I am from bulgaria tho
[03:10] <Astxist> zul, not I
[03:10] <burning_bronx> >.>
[03:11] <burning_bronx> close nuff xD
[03:11] <kbrooks> hey
[03:11] <zul> this is not good, because my english is bad
[03:11] <grajul> Xmas_kaiser:okay after that it just went to another line under it
[03:11] <Madeye> xchat-gnome is stupid LOL
[03:11] <burning_bronx> !ru
[03:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:11] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog # my blog!
[03:11] <CiRkiT> http://pastebin.com/477583
[03:11] <michael> thanks that tips and trick ansered my question wonderfully
[03:12] <uhuh> any onther magical tricks such as "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which might be worth the try?
[03:12] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:okay after that it just went to another line under it
[03:12] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: then the installer isnt running
[03:12] <michael> i can never accomplish wireless internet, it works fine on win xp with a driver install, do i need a driver?
[03:12] <zul> why /list do not work?
[03:12] <MrPrimate> i have used 2 different cdroms and I keep getting file integrity problems
[03:12] <burning_bronx> I've no idea >.>
[03:12] <gnomefreak> uhuh,  is it just your login screen thats messed?
[03:12] <MrPrimate> can anyone recommend a decent iso burner for windows free ?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> windows and free in same sentence? :(
[03:13] <MrPrimate> just to burn an iso
[03:13] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser so that means the installer wont install or what must i do
[03:13] <MrPrimate> gnomefreak, there is no?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> mr_lampe,  check on www.downloads.com
[03:13] <michael> which is better? kde or gnome?
[03:13] <MrPrimate> I use isorecord or somethin but it must burn bad discs
[03:13] <uhuh> gnomefreak: yes, when the modules and everything is loading, i can see all perfect (even the UBUNTU "logo"). just the login-screen is messy. i see my pointer moving though :)
[03:13] <skon> MrPrimate: yeah I have one...hold on
[03:13] <onkarshinde> CiRkiT: I don't see any problem with sources.list. What error do you get?
[03:13] <Astxist> michael, heh depends who you ask :)
[03:13] <gnomefreak> MrPrimate,  check on www.downloads.com i think nero has a free trial
[03:13] <michael> well wat do u prefer?
[03:13] <MrPrimate> yeah I wonder what ubuntu would recommend
[03:14] <CiRkiT> onfire_nux,  # apt-get update
[03:14] <CiRkiT> E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[03:14] <MrPrimate> for burning their iso from win32
[03:14] <Astxist> michael, I prefer gnome myself less er crowded
[03:14] <skon> MrPrimate: look for one called "DVD Burner" I've used it to make images before
[03:14] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: run `head /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run`
[03:14] <Xmas_Kaiser> and pastebin what it says
[03:14] <phreak97> MrPrimate, use alcohol 120%, it isnt free, but cracks arent hard to find, or if you dont agree with piracy, the trial is perfectly capable for however many days it lasts
[03:14] <michael> ok, is it possible to skin it with a brushed feel, or mac feel, u kno with a dock and widgets?
[03:14] <MrPrimate> skon, k i'll check it out
[03:14] <Xmas_Kaiser> phreak97: 30
[03:14] <Xmas_Kaiser> hi phreak97
[03:15] <Xmas_Kaiser> michael: yes
[03:15] <Xmas_Kaiser> Gnome-look.org (iirc)
[03:15] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: what should i do now
[03:15] <uhuh> just wonderin': which is the easiest linux distro (for installing and configuring)? i'm new to it and don't have too much time to dig into o'reilly books ;)
[03:15] <king> Can someone tell me how to make gcc on amd64 compile programs ?
[03:15] <phreak97> Xmas_Kaiser, hey, whats 30 got to do with anything?
[03:15] <Xmas_Kaiser> phreak97: the trial is 30 days
[03:15] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: pastebin the output
[03:15] <king> I am getting the error: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[03:15] <gnomefreak> MrPrimate, asking what is recommended is a bad question cause you wont get a straight answer everyone perfers different things but if i remember right there was a wiki on burning iso with nero
[03:15] <phreak97> oh, yeah, i thought it might be
[03:15] <MrPrimate> uhuh, they say ubuntu
[03:15] <onkarshinde> CiRkiT: Try 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:15] <michael> wat about kde skinning
[03:15] <Xmas_Kaiser> uhuh: strange place to ask ;)
[03:15] <grajul> what is pastebin
[03:16] <MrPrimate> gnomefreak, I wanted recommendations from everyone so it worked out
[03:16] <uhuh> MrPrimate: then i'm fucked :)
[03:16] <skon> uhuh: ubuntu is considererd one of the more user friendly ones, at least out of the "real" linux distros unlike lindows or whatever
[03:16] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:what is pastebin
[03:16] <gnomefreak> King a program that you wrote?
[03:16] <MrPrimate> uhuh, what's your trouble ?
[03:16] <kakei> alcohol 120% works on Linux??? why not k3b?
[03:16] <king> gnomefreak: hello world...
[03:16] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: pastebin.com
[03:16] <uhuh> Xmas_Kaiser: my sources on linux are low, and i guess most of you here know more than just ubuntu...
[03:16] <MrPrimate> uhuh, you having trouble with ubuntu ?
[03:17] <skon> grajul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:17] <Xmas_Kaiser> uhuh: true
[03:17] <MrPrimate> uhuh, I usually run debian or bsd
[03:17] <gnomefreak> king,  gcc <filename.c> -o filename
[03:17] <gnomefreak> if its writen in c
[03:17] <michael> su: Authentication failure
[03:17] <Xmas_Kaiser> michael: yes.  it wont work
[03:17] <michael> im trying to install java plugin for linux
[03:17] <michael> any help
[03:17] <Xmas_Kaiser> stop trying ;)
[03:17] <uhuh> yeah, login screen is scrambled. i got a hint to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which detected the monitor, but still: trouble...
[03:17] <Xmas_Kaiser> sudo
[03:17] <thierry> michael : you have to use sudo
[03:17] <gnomefreak> so it would look like this gcc helloworld.c -o helloworld
[03:17] <king> my program is simple hello world program. It cannot compile.
[03:17] <michael> ok is that how u install java plugin?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> !tell michael about javadebs
[03:17] <grajul> Xmas_kaiserokay what do i do here
[03:17] <MrPrimate> michael, once you have files installed, just make symbolic link into mozilla directory, msg me if you cant figure it out
[03:18] <thierry> michael : on ubuntu, su doesn't exist, you have to use sudo with your user password
[03:18] <Astxist> uhuh, what kind of trouble?
[03:18] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: what do i do here
[03:18] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: if you use the javadebs link, the symbolic link is made for you
[03:18] <king> I checked the web, and they suggested to update binutils.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> king,  what lang. are you useing to start with
[03:18] <kakei> michael do you have java?
[03:18] <king> I have up to date system
[03:18] <MrPrimate> johndarkhorse, ah, i've never seen ubuntu yet
[03:18] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: give me a link to the pastebin
[03:18] <king> gnomefreak: c
[03:18] <uhuh> Astxist :login screen is scrambled. i only see lines instead of an actual login.
[03:19] <MrPrimate> michael, you will just use apt to install it as anything else
[03:19] <Astxist> hmmm
[03:19] <kakei> michael,what else sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla and  sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ok king install gcc3.4 to start with
[03:19] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:wait what do i do on that pastebin site
[03:19] <ossie> hi , how do i install the new kernel i havbe just got, via apt-get install i686
[03:19] <burning_bronx> ossie,  apt-get install installs it
[03:19] <burning_bronx> lol
[03:19] <MrPrimate> if you apt-get installed'd it, then it's installed, you can just pick it from your grub boot list
[03:20] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <kernel info>
[03:20] <onkarshinde> ossie: what did you exactly do? Once you say apt-get install, it is alreadyu installed
[03:20] <ossie> grub dont show me any options, what can i do ??
[03:20] <fractalmbrown> if anyone recognizes me from last night, I was the one who had GRUB MBR corruption issues. That has been fixed, and I booted into Ubuntu fine
[03:20] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: you paste the stuff from the terminal itno the pastebin website
[03:20] <grajul> okay
[03:20] <king> I have gcc4.0 does it not work ?
[03:20] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, good to hear it
[03:20] <fractalmbrown> my update manager doesn't do anything even when I provide it with the sudo root password
[03:20] <CiRkiT> onkarshinde, oddly enough apt-get complains about the list of sources not being able to be read
[03:20] <kakei> king what are you trayin to do
[03:20] <gnomefreak> king,  for somereason it doesnt work for me using anjuta
[03:20] <kakei> trying
[03:20] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: have you added repositories?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> kakei,  hes trying to compile helloworld.c
[03:21] <king> I am unable to compile c programs
[03:21] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, unfortunately for me I have bad cdroms or burner
[03:21] <kakei> try gcc3.4
[03:21] <king> I have gcc 4.0
[03:21] <johndarkhorse> king: install build-essential
[03:21] <MrPrimate> no ubuntu for me yet
[03:21] <kakei> EXPORT=gcc-3.4 and try
[03:21] <onkarshinde> king: have you installed package build-essential?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> thats what i told him
[03:21] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: here is my bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6115
[03:21] <fractalmbrown> also, my "login screen startup" box doesn't load completely, it just does the "starting login..." thing on the taskbar and then quits out of the non-created window
[03:21] <kakei> oh..
[03:21] <Astxist> uhuh, what driver are you using?
[03:21] <fractalmbrown> can this be caused by selecting a different kernel?
[03:21] <kakei> fractalmbrown what are u using?
[03:21] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, I have a strange problem, gnome-panel is not always on top, other windows can cover it, how do I revert back to always on top. Thanks
[03:22] <gnomefreak> 4.0 wont compile your programs more than likely cause the text editor uses gcc 3.4 :(
[03:22] <kakei> gnome or KDE?
[03:22] <fractalmbrown> kakei, I'm using the Linux-386 kernel
[03:22] <phreak97> the codecs it tells me to install in the ubuntu help arent in synaptic
[03:22] <kakei> fractalmbrown your pc reboot everytime?
[03:22] <king> Isn;t it only for creating debian packages?
[03:22] <MrPrimate> how is the ubuntu on amd64 anyhow? debamd64 not bad
[03:22] <uhuh> Astxist: i newly installed ubuntu. never got any further than the scrambled login (not even in recovery mode or such)
[03:22] <fractalmbrown> kakei, no, ubuntu works completely fine except for certain applications won't load
[03:22] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: right click on panel, properties, uncheck auto hide
[03:22] <kakei> oh,sorry no idea
[03:22] <ossie> how do i select my new kernel in grub
[03:22] <fractalmbrown> kakei, I'm in Ubuntu right now
[03:22] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: can you type `head /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run` in your terminal, and put that in pastebin
[03:22] <gnomefreak> king,  take my word for it since i write c all day long get gcc 3.4 and yes it is king its in the main repos if im not mistaken
[03:23] <gnomefreak> !info gcc3.4
[03:23] <ossie> how do i select my new kernel in grub
[03:23] <onkarshinde> ossie: there is a line corresponding to it in grub menu. you will know when you reboot
[03:23] <grajul> yep
[03:23] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, the auto hide is not checked, the panel is not auto hiding, its just not on top, IE i can move a window over it
[03:23] <Astxist> uhuh, try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing the driver to vesa
[03:23] <kakei> ossie when u reboot u see the new kernel version
[03:23] <michael> how do i get kde desktop?
[03:23] <MrPrimate> ossie, grub has a menu that lets you hit up and down arrow to select kernel version
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> michael: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:23] <kakei> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <gnomefreak> michael, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[03:23] <MrPrimate> ossie, there is a /boot/grub/menu.list or something if you want to change the order
[03:23] <fractalmbrown> kakei, do you think I should get the linux-image-386 kernel?
[03:24] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: never heard of such weird thing
[03:24] <michael> where do i get kubuntu desktop from?
[03:24] <kakei> fractalmbrown which cpu do u have
[03:24] <king> Thanks folks, build-essential did the trick...
[03:24] <Astxist> uhuh, you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if editing the conf file is difficult for you
[03:24] <ossie> cheers ill try that
[03:24] <kakei> michael sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <uhuh> Astxist: how do i edit this? in the command line, what exactly do i type then to open the conf-file and save/close it??
[03:24] <gnomefreak> its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:24] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, ill put up a sceenshot :)
[03:24] <king> Shouldn;t gcc alone work though ?
[03:24] <phreak97> can the desktop be changed to kde after installation?
[03:24] <Ozman> is someone here has tried gdesklets on fluxbox ?
[03:24] <kakei> king EXPORT=gcc-3.4
[03:24] <fractalmbrown> kakei, a K7 (socket A) AMD Sempron 2800+ running at 2088MHZ ( 88mhz higher than its rating but stable nonetheless)
[03:24] <kakei> hmmmmm
[03:24] <onkarshinde> Ozman: not on fluxbox but in gnome
[03:24] <uhuh> Astxist: i did try sudo dpkg-reconfigure and it recognized my monitor, yet didn't do the trick
[03:24] <gnomefreak> king,  gcc is not installed with gcc 4.0
[03:24] <michael> is it possible to have gnome and kde?
[03:25] <Astxist> uhuh, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <fractalmbrown> kakei, I'm not having any stablity issues. Nothing has crashed
[03:25] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: yes it can
[03:25] <kakei> what's ur current Kernel image?, btw i have an amd64 3200+ and im using 386
[03:25] <bshumate> michael: sure
[03:25] <onkarshinde> michael: at least others response
[03:25] <gnomefreak> there is a base gcc that you need to uise to compile installing gcc3.4 will give you that base
[03:25] <phreak97> michael,  thats what i want to know aswel
[03:25] <king> kakei: build-essential worked with gcc4.0
[03:25] <fractalmbrown> kakei, when I chose the kernel in startup, I chose Linux-386, not anything with "image" in the name. Is that what I did wrong?
[03:25] <michael> and how would i go about that
[03:25] <kakei> king and what's is not owrking
[03:25] <Ozman> onkarshinde, the pb on fluxbox is that when I launch them at the startup they appear in solid little windows..... on only one workspace
[03:25] <ossie> i see it listed in the menu.lst file
[03:25] <Astxist> uhuh, find Section "Device"
[03:25] <kakei> fractalmbrown i dont think so it must work
[03:25] <michael> im a total noob
[03:25] <fractalmbrown> kakei, my startup in GRUB is this:
[03:25] <ossie> how do i make it defualt?
[03:26] <king> kakei: build-essential worked with gcc4.0, all is well now...
[03:26] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: i put up the new one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6116\
[03:26] <kakei> EXPORT=gcc-3.4
[03:26] <MrPrimate> ossie, read the file
[03:26] <MrPrimate> ossie, it explains up top
[03:26] <gnomefreak> build-essential installs the gcc (base) but its alot of packages for someone starting out with C
[03:26] <kakei> fractalmbrown if its to long pls pastebin it
[03:26] <Astxist> uhuh, and change Driver "<something>" to Driver "vesa"
[03:26] <uhuh> alright, i'll give it a shot. it'll be my last one though, getting stressed already ;)
[03:26] <fractalmbrown> kakei, eh, just a second. I have to mount my windows partition to be able to view it
[03:26] <Astxist> uhuh, save and restart X
[03:26] <uhuh> i'll do that Astxist, thanks!!
[03:26] <ossie> testing brb
[03:27] <kakei> fractalmbrown brb 10 mins i have to eat my breakfast
[03:27] <uhuh> happy holidays y'all, ciao
[03:27] <Astxist> uhuh, heh try setting up fglrx then :)
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, the link is http://londonboi.me.uk/screenshot.jpg
[03:27] <michael> so getting bac to my question, how do i get kde and gnome at the same time or on the same os, or have the option
[03:27] <kakei> fractalmbrown nvm 10 mins more ;d
[03:27] <CioN> hey all whats a good antivirus for ubuntu?
[03:27] <Xmas_Kaiser> clamav is in apt
[03:27] <CioN> michael install kubuntu.desktop
[03:27] <michael> no need for antivirus
[03:27] <Xmas_Kaiser> bitdeffender is good
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, sorry its http://londonboi.me.uk/Screenshot.jpg
[03:27] <michael> ubuntu wont get infected
[03:28] <CioN> it's just to scan my machin from time to time
[03:28] <michael> cion where do i get kubuntu desktop from?
[03:28] <kakei> lol michael welcome to linux =)
[03:28] <kakei> michael sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop on a shell
[03:28] <michael> lol im such a noob pls help
[03:28] <CioN> michael synaptic add repositories then installa kubuntu-desktop package
[03:28] <kakei> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <MrPrimate> michael, search on google aptitude and synaptic for everything
[03:28] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: just a hunch. Is GDesklet causing this?
[03:28] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: did i screw up
[03:28] <bshumate> michael: install ubuntu (you then have Gnome) then install kubuntu-desktop (hint: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop) and then you have KDE...
[03:29] <kakei> michael : http://ubuntuguide.org
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, dunno, I used autopackage, and it installed it
[03:29] <michael> thanks guys
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, shall I kill it and see if it still is causeing the problem
[03:29] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: you can try that.
[03:29] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: you need a space between 'head' and the file path
[03:29] <warty> I have a usb external soundcard, does ubuntu support things like that?
[03:29] <kakei> michael http://ubuntuguide.org and search 'How to add extra repositories'
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, ok, killed it, and its stilll hapening
[03:29] <CioN> clam is the only antivirus for ubuntu?
[03:29] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: and gdesklet is available in synaptic. No need to use autopackage.
[03:30] <CioN> how bout aegis?
[03:30] <michael> ok is terminal like the win cmd>
[03:30] <kakei> for what porpuse do u need an antivirus on Ubuntu?
[03:30] <Xmas_Kaiser> kakei: point people to the wiki (or with Breezy the help that shipped with it)
[03:30] <CioN> to scan my machine form time to time
[03:30] <michael> ive got ubuntu 5.10 not 5.04
[03:30] <kakei> Xmas_Kaiser ok,sorry i usually read that site hehe
[03:30] <CioN> michael: it's ok
[03:31] <bDerrly> CioN, you don't need to scan for virii on a linux machine unless you're running a mail server which has windows boxes getting mail through you
[03:31] <Xmas_Kaiser> CioN: there are sever Anti Virus', but clam is a good one
[03:31] <CioN> i know but i use client email and receiv lots o windows files
[03:31] <bDerrly> CioN, i think installing rootkithunter or chkrootkit would be wiser on linux than an anti-virus software
[03:31] <MrPrimate> whats the mtas that standard with ubuntu
[03:31] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, yeah I guessed that, but I got it thought autopackage without looking, but it does not seem to be causeing it tho
[03:31] <michael> cion, wat u mean its ok
[03:31] <CioN> o dear and whats tha?
[03:31] <MrPrimate> i am using debian and qmail right now
[03:31] <bDerrly> CioN, windows files don't run under linux thus no chance of them infecting you
[03:31] <kakei> CioN ur computer doesnt infect with windows virus
[03:32] <CioN> ok
[03:32] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:so what should i do now
[03:32] <gnomefreak> does gnomebaker verify ISO as k3b does?
[03:32] <onkarshinde> londonboi2k3: no idea what may be causing this. Nothing in theme, window preferences
[03:32] <VincentMX> hi
[03:32] <bDerrly> MrPrimate, i believe it is postfix
[03:32] <kakei> bDerrly i always have wondering what can happen if we emulate a Virus with Wine haha
[03:32] <onkarshinde> gnomefreak: what do you mean by verify?
[03:32] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: put a space in and run the command
[03:32] <bshumate> MrPrimate: as of version 5.10 ubuntu does not come with a "standard" mta...but you can install whatever...e.g. postfix, etc. etc.
[03:32] <CioN> ii'd like to check my incoming emaisl thogh
[03:32] <MrPrimate> kakei, you can spread a virus within wine apps
[03:32] <CioN> but clam gives me error back
[03:32] <bDerrly> CioN, there is no need
[03:32] <londonboi2k3> onkarshinde, no, its a fresh install on my new HD, they only change is I am using a nvidia card instead of ATI
[03:32] <grajul> space where and run what command
[03:33] <CioN> so i was thinking bout aegis
[03:33] <bDerrly> CioN, get out of the windows mind frame...
[03:33] <VincentMX> where can i find a list of packages in the apt repositories?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> onkarshinde, k3b verifies the md5 of the ISO before it burns it
[03:33] <onkarshinde> bshumate: you are wrong. Postfix is standard MTA
[03:33] <CioN> bDerry lol ok
[03:33] <bDerrly> CioN, worry about a firewall and intrusion detection rather than antivirus
[03:33] <CioN> bDerry thx
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell VincentMX  about sources
[03:33] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: run this *exactly* (copy and paste even) `head /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run`
[03:33] <CioN> bDerry i got iptables with firestarter
[03:33] <MrPrimate> ok now I just burn ubuntu install cd at 10x (slowest alcohol 120% would give me option for), we'll see how this rides
[03:33] <kakei> MrPrimate how?
[03:33] <bshumate> onkarshinde: then where was it when i installed ubuntu from scratch yesterday?
[03:33] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser:here is what happend http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6117
[03:34] <MrPrimate> kakei, how what ?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> VincentMX,  the pm ubotu sent you should have a list of them
[03:34] <kakei> how can i spread a virus here :)?
[03:34] <MrPrimate> kakei, hah,... you won't
[03:34] <CioN> dBarry tell me bout those root kit u told me
[03:34] <bDerrly> run mIRC
[03:34] <kakei> haha
[03:34] <bshumate> grajul: in your Terminal application at the prompt execute this command to try and run the demo : sudo sh /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:34] <bDerrly> CioN, install chkrootkit
[03:34] <CioN> dBarry whats that?
[03:34] <qwattre> #ircbabies
[03:35] <onkarshinde> gnomefreak: no it doesn't AFAIK
[03:35] <MrPrimate> kakei, I though you asked about how virus can spread in wine
[03:35] <bDerrly> it checks your system for known rootkits
[03:35] <kakei> oh ye.s
[03:35] <kakei> yes*
[03:35] <Dr_Acemaster> mornin ladies and gents
[03:35] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: run this  `chmod +x /home/grajul/Desktop/setup.sh`
[03:35] <bshumate> onkarshinde: and if it is standard (i.e. included) then why is its priority marked "optional"
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ok ty onkarshinde
[03:35] <onkarshinde> bshumate: Oh. The may be I got it since it was there in hoary.
[03:35] <qwattre> hi pips
[03:35] <kakei> fractalmbrown where are u?
[03:35] <CioN> dBaeery whats that?
[03:35] <MrPrimate> kakei, can spread because wine has replacemend shared libraries for everything and executes the actual code
[03:35] <bshumate> onkarshinde: read my comment... *as of 5.10*  5.10 != hoary :-P
[03:35] <CioN> dBerry whats chrootkit?
[03:36] <ami_> Astxist, thanks, i switched the device in the xorg conf to vesa and worked like a charm... (my nick was "uhuh")
[03:36] <kakei> MrPrimate i think that could be funny hahaha
[03:36] <fractalmbrown> kakei: I'm here
[03:36] <gnomefreak> 5.10 =  breezy
[03:36] <bDerrly> CioN, i told you, it is software that checks your system for rootkits
[03:36] <fractalmbrown> kakei, here is the link. http://pastebin.com/477599
[03:36] <MrPrimate> kakei, would just be virus in wine not in rest of your linux
[03:36] <CioN> oh ok
[03:36] <CioN> thx man
[03:36] <kakei> oh MrPrimate keep being funny hahaa the emulated apps reboot all the time
[03:36] <fractalmbrown> kakei, it's a win32 version of grub that is located on C:\boot for me
[03:36] <MrPrimate> kakei, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[03:36] <fractalmbrown> kakei: it works fine
[03:37] <VincentMX> gnomefreak, no this want what i was looking for, i was looking for tha packages IN the apt repos. so all the stuff you can download with it
[03:37] <fractalmbrown> MrPrimate, gotta love recursive acronyms ;)
[03:37] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown :)
[03:37] <gnomefreak> VincentMX,  you mean synaptic?
[03:37] <kakei> fractalmbrown , ur aplications isnt loading?
[03:38] <VincentMX> gnomefreak, yes
[03:38] <gnomefreak> synaptic is a graphical package manager
[03:38] <VincentMX> could be. or kynaptic or apt-get
[03:38] <onkarshinde> I love audacity. I just transferred some songs from casette to PC.
[03:38] <kakei> brb
[03:38] <grajul> bash: visudo:: command not found
[03:38] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo visudo
[03:38] <grajul> Password:
[03:38] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ id $whoami
[03:38] <grajul> uid=1000(grajul) gid=1000(grajul) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),1000(grajul)
[03:38] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo ~Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:38] <fractalmbrown> kakei: my regular apps like mozilla, the terminal, and other things load fine. Certain ones like the update manager and the login screen setup won't load
[03:38] <kbrooks> LOL
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> what the...
[03:38] <gnomefreak> on kubuntu i think is kpackage and on gnome its synaptic
[03:38] <kbrooks> flood
[03:38] <bshumate> doh!
[03:38] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, no
[03:38] <kbrooks> incorrect
[03:38] <fractalmbrown> kakei: I could try to get a more complete list by trying out more apps
[03:39] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown: whats the error when you try to run these ?
[03:39] <onkarshinde> I suppose on kubuntu it is kynaptic
[03:39] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, ask #kubuntu if they use kpackge
[03:39] <gnomefreak> kbrooks,  whats it called in kubuntu?
[03:39] <bshumate> cool like a grajul in a swimming p..ppp.ppp...pp...pool
[03:39] <kotton> CD won't mount, was working but not now, can't even open gate,  works just fine on windows platform
[03:39] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, is it asking for a password?  those apps need super-user privileges
[03:39] <VincentMX> gnomefreak, yes but it downloads packages from a server right? so where can i find a list of packages on that server?
[03:39] <MrPrimate> kotton, type eject
[03:39] <fractalmbrown> MrPrimate, there is no error. Ubuntu just asks for a password, and when I enter it, it makes the button noise and doesn't do anything
[03:39] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, do you have sudo privileges?
[03:40] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, so your wrong password or you think its broke ?
[03:40] <Xmas_Kaiser> VincentMX: what's your question?
[03:40] <BoukenPink> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:40] <kotton> MrPrimate: yep it opened
[03:40] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: what package?
[03:40] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I enter the password everytime it asks me for it
[03:40] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, that isn't the question.  do you have sudo privileges?
[03:40] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde, what do you mean? I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
[03:40] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: what should i do
[03:40] <MrPrimate> kotton, yeah I dont remember what you're talking about but that's good :] 
[03:40] <bDerrly> you have to have sudo privileges to run those apps
[03:40] <bshumate> grajul: in your Terminal application at the prompt execute this command to try and run the demo : sudo sh /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:40] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, no, I am not the root user
[03:40] <VincentMX> Xmas_Kaiser: where can i find a list of packages in the apt?
[03:40] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly: however, I do have a terminal window that is su'd to root open
[03:40] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, are you in sudoers
[03:41] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: what are you trying to run? Do you have more than one users on system? Are you logged in as first user created in installation?
[03:41] <Xmas_Kaiser> VincentMX: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <VincentMX> ok
[03:41] <VincentMX> thnx
[03:41] <gnomefreak> VincentMX,  try packages.ubuntu.com if you just want to see the packages
[03:41] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde, I am running as the user it created as "michael"
[03:41] <KraetziChriZ> Hi
[03:41] <fractalmbrown> MrPrimate, how do I check if I'm in sudoers?
[03:41] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$ sudo sh /home/grajul/Desktop/doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[03:41] <grajul> Password:
[03:41] <grajul> grajul@ubuntu:~$
[03:41] <grajul> bshumate: i did it and it say
[03:41] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: was that created in installation?
[03:41] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, make sure caps lock isn't on and type in the normal password for michael
[03:41] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: i don't think you are setyup right
[03:41] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I do that every time
[03:42] <gnomefreak> synaptic gives you the packages that your enabled repos will have
[03:42] <Xmas_Kaiser> because if you look at the head of the file you did, it calls setup.sh, which you don't have
[03:42] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, is it a problem that my root password and user password are the same?
[03:42] <KraetziChriZ> hmm anyone knows if there is an (un)official Backport for OpenOffice.Org 2.01 for Breezy? Im Using atm an unofficial Backport for 2.0 Final from an User.. which name i dont know :P
[03:42] <bshumate> grajul: pasting in the channel is not a good thing(tm)
[03:42] <gnomefreak> he must not of read ubotus pm
[03:42] <tristan> anyone has downloaded xboard to use it with a chess program?
[03:42] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, for one you shouldn't have a root password and no, that shouldn't be a problem with the apps...it isn't the smartest thing to do however...
[03:42] <bDerrly> !sudo
[03:42] <bDerrly> bah
[03:43] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: is it the first user created in installation? Which app are you trying to run?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[03:43] <ubotu> methinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:43] <bDerrly> !tell fractalmbrown sudo
[03:43] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde: when the setup asked me to create a user, I created a user named michael
[03:43] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, what does that tell thing do
[03:43] <kotton> OK CD won't mount...mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[03:43] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrowntries to give you a url
[03:43] <kotton> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[03:43] <kotton>        missing codepage or other error
[03:43] <kotton>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:43] <kotton>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:44] <MrPrimate> kotton, don't paste so much in the channel, you're mounting the wrong device probably
[03:44] <fractalmbrown> he can't hear you
[03:44] <MrPrimate> hah
[03:44] <fractalmbrown> now he can hear you
[03:44] <fractalmbrown> lol
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> kotton: please read the /topic
[03:44] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: Ok. And what application are you trying to run?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:44] <gnomefreak> kotton,  use pastebin
[03:44] <MrPrimate>  kotton, don't paste so much in the channel, you're mounting the wrong device probably
[03:44] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde: I am trying to run the update manager
[03:44] <MrPrimate> kotton, you can dump shit to msg on me if you want, not in the channel
[03:44] <kotton> ok
[03:45] <kakei> back
[03:45] <ossie> hi , guys please help im getting mad now, no mater what i put in the grub /menu.lst file nothing changes
[03:45] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: please watch your language in here
[03:45] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde: it asks me for the password, I type it in, then click "ok"... then nothing happens
[03:45] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, open a terminal and type this:  sudo apt-get update
[03:45] <gnomefreak> fractalmbrown,  if you prompt looks like this michael@linux$ than type in sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:45] <kotton> Mr, sorry, unfamiliar with this type of chat
[03:45] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: AFAIK, update manager won't comeup if there are no updates. Try running synaptic instead
[03:46] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde, there are 37 updates *stares*
[03:46] <VincentMX> hmm
[03:46] <VincentMX> the program i was looking for is not in the apt
[03:46] <KraetziChriZ> hmm anyone knows if there is an (un)official Backport for OpenOffice.Org 2.01 for Breezy? Im Using atm an unofficial Backport for 2.0 Final from an User.. which name i dont know :P
[03:46] <VincentMX> :(
[03:46] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: are you already runung synaptic?
[03:47] <jerry> ???
[03:47] <ossie> hi , guys please help im getting mad now, no mater what i put in the grub /menu.lst file nothing changes
[03:47] <fractalmbrown> onkarshinde, I don't think so. But that apt-get thing changed the update manager's icon from "37 updates" to "update manager is working"
[03:47] <grajul> Xmas_Kaiser: is there anything i can do
[03:47] <gnomefreak> fractalmbrown,  click on the red thing it will ask for a password type user password in and it should work but you can only run 1 apt at a time
[03:47] <Xmas_Kaiser> grajul: i don't know. i don't have the installer to play with
[03:47] <ossie> no matter what changes i make to the grub menu.lst file, it doesnt seem to change, its like the file aint loading
[03:47] <gnomefreak> fractalmbrown, let it finish than
[03:47] <fractalmbrown> gnomefreak, it already asked me for a password
[03:47] <grajul> k
[03:47] <Xmas_Kaiser> you might have to ask someone who has installed it I'm afraid
[03:47] <fractalmbrown> gnomefreak, it changed back to a red icon that says "37 updates available"
[03:48] <onkarshinde> fractalmbrown: this is weird, you can run apt-get but not update manager
[03:48] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: do alt-f2 > gksudo synaptic
[03:48] <nios_> hello all
[03:48] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, tail /var/log/syslog and see if you're getting errors... or /var/log/auth
[03:48] <budluva> anyone here know any good psp/linux/ubuntu pages i can browse? just got a psp a couple of weeks ago and havent been able to find any good pages with some psp linux info
[03:48] <grajul> all right i guess i i will have do some research i must say linux is really hard to get used to
[03:48] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:48] <gnomefreak> if you can only use apt
[03:48] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, gksudo synaptic did nothing
[03:48] <MrPrimate>  badluva? what do you mean psp linux?
[03:49] <tristan> anyone has downloaded xboard to use it with a chess program?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: it didn't even bring up a password entry box?
[03:49] <kakei> budluva http://www.psp-linux.org/
[03:49] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, it asked for a password a long time ago
[03:49] <tuxlifan> How can I change the resolution of my printer (or, even better, get back the webfrontend to CUPS)???
[03:49] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, I tried it when I first logged in
[03:49] <MrPrimate> kakei: dead link
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: go and close all your apt instances please
[03:50] <bDerrly> tuxlifan, http://localhost:991 i believe
[03:50] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, how can I tell where apt is running?
[03:50] <budluva> kakei, no i mean like is there any psp apps for linux yet? ie video/photo converters, blah blah
[03:50] <kakei> oh , dunno try googling "psp linux"
[03:50] <MrPrimate> budluva, what is a 'psp app' ??
[03:50] <tuxlifan> bDerrly: nope, nothing there :S
[03:50] <MrPrimate> budluva, is that a file format or what do you mean by 'psp' ?
[03:50] <pixelfairy> thanks
[03:50] <kakei> oh budluva dunno
[03:50] <bDerrly> tuxlifan, do you have apache running?
[03:51] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: if you dont see any synaptic, kynaptic, adept, or have consoles open with apt-get or aptitude, then open a console and type "ps aux|grep dpkg" and/or ps aux|grep apt-get"
[03:51] <tuxlifan> bDerrly: no
[03:51] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: playstationportable
[03:51] <bDerrly> well, you have to have apache running ot use the cups web setup
[03:51] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, ps aux|grep dpkg did nothing
[03:51] <bDerrly> tuxlifan, what is wrong with the gnome-cups-manager?
[03:52] <fractalmbrown> it just made a new line
[03:52] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, could it be a kernel issue?
[03:52] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, repeat that for "dselect", "apt", "synaptic", "adept"
[03:52] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, no
[03:52] <kakei> fractalmbrown no
[03:52] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, in a terminal type "sudo tail -f /var/log/auth"
[03:52] <bDerrly> then try to run synaptic
[03:52] <tuxlifan> bDerrly: it just doesn't let me change resolution, or any other setting, like, e.g. papersize... I'm in the lpadmin group and even with sudo it doesn't work
[03:53] <tuxlifan> bDerrly: I'm still on 5.04 if that matters...
[03:53] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, the sudo tail thing asked me for a password and didn't do anything else after I typed it in
[03:53] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, want me to pastebin it?
[03:53] <yanis> hello
[03:54] <yanis> how do I format a new usb hard disc?
[03:54] <pvanhoof> just like any other harddisk, yanis
[03:54] <pvanhoof> plug it in, check dmesg to get to know it's name
[03:54] <MrPrimate> damn 10x burn worked fine for me, ubuntu seems to be up straight now
[03:54] <pvanhoof> fdisk /dev/sda
[03:55] <pvanhoof> create a partition (for example n, p, 1, enter enter)
[03:55] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, http://pastebin.com/477618
[03:55] <pvanhoof> w
[03:55] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, you don't have sudo privileges is my guess...type this in terminal:  sudo -l
[03:55] <pvanhoof> pvcreate /dev/sda1
[03:55] <onkarshinde> yanis: perhaps gparted will help you
[03:55] <fractalmbrown> "Sorry, user michael may not run sudo in localhost"
[03:55] <pvanhoof> vgcreate groupname /dev/sda1
[03:55] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, WABAM!
[03:55] <pvanhoof> lvcreate -L size /dev/groupname -npartitionname
[03:55] <bDerrly> and all the answers fall into place
[03:55] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, hehe. Keep in mind I know nothing of linux
[03:55] <pvanhoof> yanis, that's for an LVM2 setup
[03:56] <yanis> ehm
[03:56] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, have a solution?
[03:56] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, how do you have a terminal running as root and a root password and no sudo?
[03:56] <pvanhoof> and then, mkfs.ext3 /dev/groupname/partitionname
[03:56] <yanis> what's the most common fs.ext3 right?
[03:56] <pvanhoof> and mount /dev/groupname/partitionname /mnt
[03:56] <MrPrimate> damn ubuntu install didn't work, must not have gone onto mbr, I get Error loading operating system
[03:56] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, hell if I know. I just typed "su" and entered the password when it prompted me
[03:56] <gnomefreak> fractalmbrown, you dont have sudo privledges but if that was the name and password you used to install ubuntu you should have them
[03:56] <pvanhoof> yanis, these days I recommend using LVM2
[03:56] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, in that terminal type "whoami"
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: don't use su in the future, ubuntu doesnt use the 'su' model of superuser
[03:57] <gnomefreak> fractalmbrown, who installed ubuntu on that pc?
[03:57] <yanis> havent heard of it..
[03:57] <pvanhoof> it'll make management of your "volumne" a lot more easy and powerfull
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell fractalmbrown about root
[03:57] <fractalmbrown> whoami returns "michael"
[03:57] <bDerrly> then you're not root
[03:57] <yanis> is it a standard?
[03:57] <pvanhoof> yanis, yea well, then learn it ;)
[03:57] <pvanhoof> yanis, yes
[03:57] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, was michael the first user you created after install?
[03:57] <pvanhoof> yanis, every modern linux distro these days creates a LVM2 for / by default
[03:57] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, yes. There is a root password, however
[03:57] <pvanhoof> yanis, Ubuntu, for example, does it
[03:58] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, ubotu says there is no root pass by default, but I set one
[03:58] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: ubuntu is not set up for root account usage, and that can confuse some things
[03:58] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, so if you type "su -"  (that is a hyphen) and put in the root password, then type "whoami" do you get root?
[03:58] <pvanhoof> yanis, and it's indeed a lot more powerfull if you want to make triping raids, mirror raids, let it grow add, delete volumnes, do snapshot backups
[03:58] <pvanhoof> stuff like that, very powerfull
[03:59] <kakei> fractalmbrown sudo su and see
[03:59] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, here is something interesting: I went into System->Administration->Users and Groups, and it said "Starting Users and Groups..." but then it disappeared
[03:59] <yanis> pvanhoof: it's a simple usb exteran hdd
[03:59] <gnomefreak> is sudo really that hard to use that people have to add su account?
[03:59] <pvanhoof> yanis, that's perfect for lvm2
[03:59] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, it is because you don't have sudo
[03:59] <pvanhoof> yanis, however .. if you want to use it on Windows ... you're only option is to use VFAT
[04:00] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, su - got me into root@ubuntu
[04:00] <bDerrly> type whoami
[04:00] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: it is not hard to use at all, just unfamiliar. and all the howtos on the net instruct with 'su' usage
[04:00] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I've been as root before.
[04:00] <yanis> pvanhoof: I use ext2win
[04:00] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly: whoami returns "root"
[04:00] <pvanhoof> yanis, that might not work with LVM2
[04:00] <bDerrly> how the hell...?
[04:00] <MrPrimate> can you name your account root in ubuntu?
[04:00] <bDerrly> i don't understand how you installed ubuntu and have a root passwd and yet no sudo...
[04:01] <yanis> pvanhoof: is there any tool to read it from windows?
[04:01] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, sure, just add a record in /etc/passwd with id 0
[04:01] <bDerrly> MrPrimate, not recommended
[04:01] <gnomefreak> johndarkhorse,  i see that point
[04:01] <yanis> pvanhoof: for LVM2
[04:01] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, sudo -l from root@ubuntu: ~ says I can run all commands
[04:01] <MrPrimate> yeah I thought ubuntu avoided this
[04:01] <pvanhoof> yanis, you'll have to check the LVM2 docs for that
[04:01] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, sudo su , followed by passwd and you have a root account
[04:01] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, type visudo
[04:01] <MrPrimate> right,... does ubuntu stick with its own packages or debian packages also
[04:02] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: debian pkgs will break ubuntu
[04:02] <MrPrimate> (in normal apt-
[04:02] <gnomefreak> MrPrimate,  pretty much a mixture
[04:02] <bshumate> gnomefreak: of course it is, that is why it was created...because of the inherent insecurity in su
[04:02] <MrPrimate> johndarkhorse, ok, so you'd have to force
[04:02] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, okay, I'm in a text editor
[04:02] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: if you force, you'll break. it's a guarantee
[04:02] <sethbc> gnomefreak, it's only as secure as the config
[04:02] <MrPrimate> johndarkhorse, got it
[04:02] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, afaik there's work in progress to get dpkg's compatible with ubuntu
[04:02] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, scroll down to the bottom
[04:02] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, should i add my name to the list?
[04:03] <pvanhoof> binary compatible .. but nevertheless, if there's a ubuntu package : use it
[04:03] <bDerrly> hit the 'i' key once
[04:03] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: building from debian source is the safest way
[04:03] <gnomefreak> bshumate, but if that was case wouldnt all distros go to it since ubuntu is only one im sure of that uses it?
[04:03] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, like the letter i?
[04:03] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, or CTRL-I?
[04:03] <bshumate> sethbc: i think he is referring to it being more secure in theory....of course in practice it can be insecure too.
[04:03] <bshumate> gnomefreak: you can get sudo for any *nix out there
[04:03] <MrPrimate> winsecure?
[04:03] <bDerrly> wtf?  i ran visudo and it used nano...eeeeew!
[04:03] <pvanhoof> yanis, if you can go for LVM2, go for it. It's the future of volume management in Linux
[04:04] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I'm in nano
[04:04] <johndarkhorse> pvanhoof: debian is not binary compabible
[04:04] <MrPrimate> dDerrly: odddd
[04:04] <pvanhoof> well, it's not only the future .. it's today
[04:04] <yanis> pvanhoof: I hope :P
[04:04] <gnomefreak> if you have to type sudo before each command you have less chance to mess something up than say using sudo -i or su
[04:04] <MrPrimate> vim vim !
[04:04] <pvanhoof> johndarkhorse, that's what I said, indeed
[04:04] <bDerrly> i didn't even know i had nano installed
[04:04] <MrPrimate> emacs is wacky
[04:04] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I thought it was default installed
[04:04] <johndarkhorse> bDerrly: it uses your $EDITOR variable
[04:04] <sethbc> bDerrly: nano is installed automatically, it's executed because that is what your $EDITOR is set to
[04:04] <coolgoose> hi all
[04:04] <gnomefreak> bshumate, im sure you can but most people stick with default su cause they know it
[04:04] <pvanhoof> yanis, it is. And it's powerfull .. and some day you'll do virtualisation with xen .. and you'll love it
[04:04] <pvanhoof> you'll see
[04:04] <coolgoose> can someone help me with my dri problem ? :)
[04:05] <pvanhoof> just wait and see
[04:05] <MrPrimate> coolgoose, gotta be more specific than that
[04:05] <MrPrimate> coolgoose, don't paste though
[04:05] <coolgoose> MrPrimate: i don't even have 100 fps in glxgears lol
[04:05] <coolgoose> MrPrimate: and glxinfo gives me
[04:05] <bDerrly> $EDITOR and $VISUAL were not set, and it uses $VISUAL not $EDITOR
[04:05] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, the line at the bottom says root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[04:05] <MrPrimate> coolgoose, what hardware and drivers are you using ?
[04:05] <bshumate> gnomefreak: who are these "most people" you are referring to?  and how do you know this?  did you do some surveys?
[04:05] <yanis> lol I dont know what that virtual thing is
[04:05] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, first are you using nano or vim?
[04:05] <pvanhoof> yanis, btw, you'll love both xen and LVM2. They are a great combo
[04:05] <fractalmbrown> bderrly: nano
[04:06] <pvanhoof> yanis, you'll know when time comes
[04:06] <ossie> hi , please can someone tell me how to apt-get the i686 mutliporccessor package please I want the source
[04:06] <bDerrly> ok, just copy exactly what it says for root but change root to michael on the next line down
[04:06] <gnomefreak> bshumate,  no i take it from people that switch from another distro to ubuntu
[04:06] <MrPrimate> ossie, msg me and ask about it i'll explain everything
[04:06] <johndarkhorse> ossie: use synaptic
[04:06] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, is correct
[04:06] <burning_bronx> and bshumate please don't be so offensive
[04:06] <burning_bronx> ~_~
[04:06] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, then save and log out then back in?
[04:06] <coolgoose> MrPrimate: root@ov360:/home/coolgoose# glxinfo | grep Mesa
[04:06] <coolgoose> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 4x TCL
[04:06] <coolgoose> OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 6.4.1
[04:06] <burning_bronx> we are all friends here trying to help each other :)
[04:06] <gnomefreak> bshumate,  you sit here long enough you will see how many questions you get about su and sudo :(
[04:07] <johndarkhorse> coolgoose: please dont paste in here, read the /topic
[04:07] <bDerrly> yes, exit the file
[04:07] <coolgoose> sorry
[04:07] <bshumate> burning_bronx: i am not being offensive.  i just don't take the word of anyone as gospel.  how is asking questions offensive?
[04:07] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, as long as there are people to answer it will be all good :)
[04:07] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, then run visudo -c
[04:07] <burning_bronx> bshumate, you make it sound offensive. like just right now
[04:07] <gnomefreak> hoary was the first distro i ever tried
[04:07] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, should I type CTRL-O to save the file?
[04:07] <fractalmbrown> bderrly: it says "^O  WriteOut"
[04:08] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, i've never used nano, there should be a bar at the bottom that tells you what to do
[04:08] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, most people usually start with older distros
[04:08] <coolgoose> i have http://rafb.net/paste/results/xcD8Ob89.html and not even 100 fps in glxgears , in fact glxgears doesn't show a value :)
[04:08] <burning_bronx> >.>
[04:08] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, yes, that is the save
[04:08] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, then exit
[04:08] <burning_bronx> ubuntu is quite young
[04:08] <sethbc> control x exits in nano
[04:08] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: ctrl-o, enter, and ctrl-x
[04:08] <MrPrimate> burning_bronx, debian's been around though
[04:08] <bshumate> burning_bronx: well i am sorry if you are offended.  i suppose if i am actually offending everyone, i'll be +b or kicked from the channel.  i cannot help that you interpret asking questions as offensive.
[04:08] <burning_bronx> MrPrimate, Ubuntu is not Debian as you may have noticed ;)
[04:08] <coolgoose> so any ideeas ? :P
[04:08] <MrPrimate> burning_bronx, well it's on the pillars
[04:09] <burning_bronx> bshumate, you keep doing it - just be calm and friendly like we are towards you :P
[04:09] <sethbc> i'm trying to do an SVN checkout on the lighttpd repo, and svn is telling me that it cannot write to a temp directory...of course /tmp is writeable by me, so i'm kind of left wondering why its barfing
[04:09] <gnomefreak> bshumate,  your not offending me and i dont want you to take what i say offensive please
[04:09] <johndarkhorse> sethbc: hows your space usage?
[04:09] <coolgoose> this is my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/y3ttJq70.html
[04:09] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, did you exit?  run visudo -c ?
[04:09] <sethbc> johndarkhorse: about 1 of 200 gigs used
[04:09] <sethbc> ;-)
[04:09] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, "sudoers file parsed successfully"
[04:09] <bDerrly> excellent!
[04:10] <ossie> MrPrimate, i have messaged u
[04:10] <coolgoose> so any ideeas ? :P
[04:10] <MrPrimate> ossie: I don't see it
[04:10] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, now try to run synaptic or update manager and type in the password you have set for michael
[04:10] <fractalmbrown> okay
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: ossie you need to be registerd and identified to msg
[04:10] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, what time is it there, where you live? Cause I am about to prepare me a cool X-mas eve's dinner
[04:10] <burning_bronx> :P
[04:10] <MrPrimate> I am registered.
[04:10] <fractalmbrown> I typed "synaptic" in the terminal and it said:
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: you are not identified
[04:10] <fractalmbrown> (synaptic:9515): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:10] <gnomefreak> 10:10 am on sat.
[04:10] <MrPrimate> oh fuck bs brb
[04:10] <tristan> anyone knows why when I am trying to run xboard it tells me : xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[04:10] <ossie> ok
[04:11] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: that is common
[04:11] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, no, not in the terminal...from the menu
[04:11] <fractalmbrown> oh
[04:11] <ossie> bbl
[04:11] <burning_bronx> and it's almost dinner time here >.>
[04:11] <coolgoose> so does anyone have any ideas ?
[04:11] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, nope. Update manager still does nuffink.
[04:11] <MrPrimate> ossie: sorry you can msg me now
[04:11] <kakei> hey any one knows an aplication to check the CPU temp?
[04:11] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: please watch your language in here
[04:11] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, from a new terminal (not in root) type sudo -l
[04:12] <fractalmbrown> it still says "sorry, user michael cannot run sudo on localhost"
[04:12] <bDerrly> kakei, lmsensors
[04:12] <coolgoose> MrPrimate: can you help me ? :) http://rafb.net/paste/results/y3ttJq70.html is the xorg.conf
[04:12] <MrPrimate> johndarkhorse, did I step out of line? sorry
[04:12] <MrPrimate> coolgoose, msg me
[04:12] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx,  have a wonderfull xmas eve dinner and a wonderful xmas if i dont see you
[04:12] <fractalmbrown> bderrly: should i re-log in
[04:12] <bDerrly> no
[04:12] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I still have no sudo priviledges
[04:12] <burning_bronx> gnomefreak, I'd be around till dinner time ;)
[04:12] <Malachi> Ubuntu's great isn't it?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:13] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, paste your /etc/sudoers file in a pm to me
[04:13] <yaniss> pvanhoof: are you there?
[04:13] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, for some reason the sudoers file never saved
[04:13] <burning_bronx> Malachi, ubuntu is teriffic
[04:13] <pvanhoof> yaniss, yes
[04:13] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, hang on, I must edit it again
[04:13] <bDerrly> ok
[04:13] <yaniss> pvanhoof: can we talk in private for a sec?
[04:13] <pvanhoof> nop, please talk here
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: you have to have superuser privs to use visudo
[04:14] <kakei> bDerrly where can i get lmsensors? with apt-get didnt work =(
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> kakei: use synaptic, they are there
[04:14] <bDerrly> kakei, it probably isn't called lmsensors... apt-cache search sensor
[04:14] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, bDerrly, I now have sudo priviledges under michael :D
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: cool beans
[04:14] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, congrats.  now run update-managers
[04:15] <fractalmbrown> w00t
[04:15] <fractalmbrown> lol
[04:15] <fractalmbrown> it worked
[04:15] <tristan> anyone knows why when I am trying to run xboard it tells me : xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[04:15] <pvanhoof> yaniss, please ask your questions here
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> tristan: install more font pkgs
[04:15] <bshumate> tristan: because xboard is looking for a helvetica font and you don't have such a font installed, or it is not installed properly
[04:15] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, i would look at the ubuntu guide about su vs sudo and i believe they have instructions on how to set root up to not be allowed login again...
[04:16] <tristan> johndarkhorse, bshumate : where can I find this font?
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> tristan: search for "font" in synaptic or apt
[04:16] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, I've tried logging in as root from the startup screen
[04:16] <MrPrimate> tristan, just install a bunch of fonts, that sounds like normal font
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> tristan: install missing pkgs
[04:16] <fractalmbrown> bderrly: it didn't work
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: dont use 'root'
[04:17] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, that is because by default ubuntu (gdm really) doesn't allow root to login
[04:17] <burning_bronx> omg
[04:17] <pussfeller> whats the command to see what package might contain a certain file or string?
[04:17] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, so, is root not allowed to login?
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: a root account is so unnecessary
[04:17] <gnomefreak> omg doesnt sound good
[04:18] <burning_bronx> the ubuntu devels are so hasty - they put gfxboot package but this package still creates a suse folder
[04:18] <MrPrimate> i think my ubundtu installation may have acctually locked up configuring libxft2, unless this takes forever and you can't alt+f2 or anything
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> pussfeller: install and update apt-file
[04:18] <joachim-n> hi
[04:19] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, bDerrly, thank you guys so much for your help
[04:19] <gnomefreak> MrPrimate, its prbably a big lib file let it sit there for a while see if it changes
[04:19] <MrPrimate> during installation should I be able to jump to another contsole alt+f2, etc ? i think it's locked up
[04:19] <MrPrimate> gnomefreak, with debian i could always switch console though
[04:19] <MrPrimate> gnomefreak, this seems to be locked up
[04:19] <bDerrly> fractalmbrown, no problem  :)
[04:20] <johndarkhorse> MrPrimate: the install only has 3 consoles and one is used for the install
[04:20] <MrPrimate> johndarkhorse, and I can't get to any of the others, so it's locked up huh
[04:20] <fractalmbrown> bDerrly, one last thing: now that I can get into the "login screen startup", I discovered in the security tab: Allow root to login with GDM is unchecked. Does that mean root is not allowed to login period?
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: not at the gui, no
[04:21] <bshumate> MrPrimate: a good test of hard locked state is CAPS or NUM lock keys...if you press them, and the corresponding lights don't appear, then you're really locked up...if they light, then you're not so locked up. ;-)
[04:21] <mlopes> merry christmas
[04:21] <mlopes> :-)
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: and if i were you, i'd not ever use root again, there is no need for it
[04:21] <mlopes> does anyone know how can I see which flags were use to compile a ubuntu package?
[04:21] <MrPrimate> bshumate, this bunk keyboard dodsn't have proper lights though :] 
[04:21] <bshumate> MrPrimate: bummer.
[04:21] <fractalmbrown> johndarkhorse, essentially, now I am root because I have ALL = (ALL) ALL priviledges
[04:22] <MrPrimate> bshumate, hopefully a reboot during install won't nuke it
[04:22] <johndarkhorse> fractalmbrown: you have ALL priveleges with sudo, also
[04:23] <redneck> hello !!
[04:24] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:24] <phreak97> my fat32 partition isnt showing up under computer
[04:24] <nmsa> I just installed my new PII Ubuntu server; installed DNS server  and thinking I need a DHCP to give dynamic IP's in the local net; is this correct ?
[04:24] <phreak97> hello:P
[04:24] <MrPrimate> damn my ubuntu is wrecked
[04:24] <MrPrimate> how can i force it to reinstall now from the shell
[04:24] <MrPrimate> it bombed out when i rebooted it during that install
[04:24] <MrPrimate> can I just apt-get base anything ?
[04:25] <phreak97> oh, and my monitor supports 1280x960 70Hz, but it only lets me choose 60Hz
[04:25] <phreak97> how do i get around that?
[04:26] <bshumate> nmsa: if you mean you would like to distribute IP addresses to other computers on your network, then yes, you need dhcpd (sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> phreak97, reconfigureing your xserver might help but if your vc doesnt support it than you wont get it is what im thinking
[04:26] <phreak97> i just realized the nvidia drivers need installing, then ill check on it
[04:27] <phreak97> works in windows is the thing
[04:27] <MrPrimate> phreak97, can be hard to find your modelines sometimes to get just right, do you got your monitor's specs
[04:27] <gnomefreak> phreak97, windows and linux wont run the same things the same way
[04:27] <nmsa> bshumate: ok then, 'thnx I'll try and install it :) ubuntuguide is a good reference for conf info, any other good start point ?
[04:27] <MrPrimate> MrPrimate, my 20" widescreens gave me hell with xf86config
[04:27] <MrPrimate> MrPrimate, but eventually I got them to play nice
[04:28] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[04:28] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[04:28] <phreak97> nope, all i know is its an lg studioworks 700s
[04:29] <MrPrimate> I will have to try to install older version if this ubuntu install freezes up again
[04:29] <michael> how do i access my win xp parition?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> phreak97, never used nv drivers myself but they should help with your res
[04:30] <MrPrimate> michael, I don't know anything about ubuntu, but in debian you should just be able to mount it (read-write if you want)
[04:30] <MrPrimate> michael, you could mount it to /mnt/xp  for example
[04:30] <MrPrimate> michael, msg me if you don't know what i'm talking about
[04:31] <michael> i dont know wat your tlking about
[04:31] <MrPrimate> yeah msg me
[04:31] <michael> last time i had ubuntu
[04:31] <michael> i was able to access my win xp parition and access my music folder and play my music
[04:31] <MrPrimate> well i've yet to see ubuntu because the install keeps failing,
[04:31] <phreak97> gonna try studff, brb
[04:31] <phreak97> stuff too
[04:31] <MrPrimate> michael, ok, yeah perhaps, was that in nautilus ?
[04:32] <michael> nope it was defintly in ubuntu
[04:32] <MrPrimate> sorry,
[04:32] <bshumate> nmsa: check out also, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <MrPrimate> michael, your /etc/fstab has to have your xp partition in it
[04:32] <michael> ill have to wait for my ubuntu friend to get on msn messenger to help me
[04:32] <MrPrimate> michael, if you put it in there proper, then you can see it in your system
[04:32] <MrPrimate> michael, otherwise you mount it each time to use it
[04:32] <michael> and how do i mount it
[04:32] <michael> im a noob
[04:33] <MrPrimate> michael, to mount it manually, you would say   mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/xp
[04:33] <MrPrimate> assuming the device is hda1 and the mount point is /mnt/xp
[04:33] <MrPrimate> devices for ide are hda hdb hdc hdd    partition 1 hda1
[04:33] <michael> do i put that in the terminal
[04:33] <michael> i just did and it said only the root can do that
[04:33] <MrPrimate> michael, you would put the proper mount line in the terminal yes
[04:33] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[04:33] <MrPrimate> then you must sudo
[04:33] <michael> it says only root cand do that
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> michael: help.ubuntu.com has quite a bit of answers to your "noob" questions (and probably answers to questions you didnt have)
[04:34] <MrPrimate> type sudo before you type the command
[04:34] <tristan> Well, I cannot find Helvetica font for Linux. Anyone, knows where to get it....?
[04:34] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me how to install gdesklets with all the packages?
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> tristan: did you install all your font pkgs available?
[04:34] <Toma-> !info gdesklets
[04:34] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[04:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:34] <ubotu> gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 404 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> Sh4d0x: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[04:34] <MrPrimate> tristan, i dunno ms true type font pack? haha
[04:34] <fractalmbrown> does anyone here have advice on how to go about installing Nvidia drivers on linux? I don't know which driver archive to choose
[04:34] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, whcih nvidia card do you have
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell fractalmbrown about nvidia
[04:35] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, nvidia drivers work well in linux
[04:35] <Sh4d0x> johndarkhorse, then only the program is being installed
[04:35] <fractalmbrown> GeForce FX550
[04:35] <fractalmbrown> er
[04:35] <fractalmbrown> GeForce FX5500
[04:35] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, get the driver from nvidia, it works great
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> Sh4d0x: apt doesnt know what you want to watch, that is up to you
[04:35] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, don't use the nv driver
[04:35] <tristan> johndarkhorse : yes except chinese, japanese and so on fonts
[04:35] <yaniss> pvanhoof: I did fdisk
[04:35] <fractalmbrown> MrPrimate, yes, but there are multiple choices
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> tristan: the msttcorefonts ?
[04:35] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown: such as? list?
[04:36] <fractalmbrown> Linux lA32
[04:36] <fractalmbrown> Linux lA64 etc
[04:36] <Sh4d0x> johndarkhorse, yesterday someone gave me a command which did installed all the gdesklet packages but i was forced to format and know i don't know the command anymore :(
[04:36] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, if you're not 64-bit you want IA32
[04:36] <MrPrimate> fractalmbrown, I assume you don't have an AMD64 or intel64
[04:37] <yaniss> pvanhoof: you gave me a lot of commandnn
[04:37] <pvanhoof> yaniss, check the LVM2 documentation
[04:37] <pvanhoof> search for the FAQ
[04:37] <tristan> tjohndarkhorse : his package is installed. and there is no Helvetica fonts in it
[04:37] <pvanhoof> it's very good and usefull
[04:37] <tristan> johndarkhorse : his package is installed. and there is no Helvetica fonts in it
[04:37] <MrPrimate> ARGGG oh no I just typed ifconfig while ubuntu was installing and I got a KERNEL PANIC
[04:37] <MrPrimate> can you believe that?
[04:38] <phreak97> ok, someone please tell me how to set up auto server and channel joins, and auto-ident in xchat?
[04:38] <johndarkhorse> tristan: you have msttcorefonts?
[04:38] <Sh4d0x> MrPrimate, i did got even worse :)
[04:38] <MrPrimate> phreak97, rtfm
[04:39] <Uriku> hello
[04:39] <MrPrimate> Sh4d0x, i've been through like 5 discs and so many bad ubuntu installs, i dunno why i'm still trying
[04:39] <phreak97> MrPrimate, i couldnt figure it out
[04:39] <Uriku> I am running on the Ubuntu liveCD
[04:39] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, err, don't type ifconfig then? :)
[04:39] <peewee> when we'll can install firefox 1.5 with synaptic?
[04:39] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, anyway, i'd try replacing your network card
[04:39] <Sh4d0x> MrPrimate ubuntu made me format my laptop like 8 times in 3 days, i asking me the same question
[04:39] <Uriku> and I'm trying to access the Hard Drive
[04:39] <MrPrimate> pvanhoof, i'm scared of one of my interfaces :)
[04:39] <peewee> anybody knows that?
[04:39] <MrPrimate> pvanhoof, the other one works fine
[04:39] <Sh4d0x> MrPrimate, probably cus we are sick of windows? :D
[04:39] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, yea. Okay, take it out and replace it
[04:39] <MrPrimate> pvanhoof, i'm installing on a friend's box so I can't say for the condition of the hardware
[04:39] <Uriku> help me, please
[04:40] <MrPrimate> Uriku, more specific, please
[04:40] <tristan> johndarkhorse : yes I have it and there is no Helevetica fonts in it. and xboard wants Helvetica font to run.....
[04:40] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, don't waste your time on broken hardware ;), just replace it
[04:40] <MrPrimate> Uriku: explain your problem in one long complete sentence and we got you
[04:40] <pvanhoof> NICs are cheap
[04:40] <Uriku> I am running the Ubuntu LiveCD, and I am trying to access the hard drive (which has WinXP. sorry)
[04:40] <MrPrimate> pvanhoof, oh i'm going to pull out the bad one when i figure out which is which
[04:41] <Uriku> how do I do it?
[04:41] <phreak97> ok, i got autoconnects
[04:41] <phreak97> :P
[04:41] <pvanhoof> MrPrimate, often the one closest to your AGP slot is eth0
[04:41] <pvanhoof> but it's not per definition
[04:41] <sewoyl> hi there! merry christmas ina dvance
[04:41] <MrPrimate> pvanhoof, yeah i don't know which segfaulted
[04:41] <pvanhoof> I see
[04:41] <pvanhoof> ifconfig eth0
[04:41] <pvanhoof> ifconfig eth1
[04:41] <MrPrimate> hehe
[04:41] <pvanhoof> :)
[04:41] <pvanhoof> and watch it burn
[04:41] <MrPrimate> yeah, let me wait untill ubuntu finishes installing first
[04:41] <sewoyl> I have an old 4.10 live cd, I wanted to know how to run in in text mode
[04:41] <tristan> I have the xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi installed in which there should be the helvetica font but still xboard does not see it
[04:41] <MrPrimate> so I can finally have something of a stable boot
[04:42] <gnomefreak> not sure you can run live-cd in text only mode
[04:43] <Uriku> anyone?
[04:43] <phreak97> brb
[04:43] <gnomefreak> sewoyl, try ctrl+alt+F2
[04:43] <Uriku> I have an assigment to do, I have to access the hard drive
[04:43] <tristan> Uriku : I think you have to mount it if it is possible with live CD
[04:44] <phreak97> ok, that works
[04:44] <sewoyl> gnomefreak, thanks,but I'd like to boot in text mode
[04:44] <Uriku> I tried that, but it said only root can do it
[04:44] <Uriku> when I tried to do "su"
[04:44] <sewoyl> I'm gonna try in qemu
[04:44] <Uriku> I was asked for password
[04:44] <gnomefreak> sewoyl, with the live-cd i dont think you can
[04:44] <tristan> Uriku : use sudo
[04:44] <phreak97> can someone help out with configuring evolution mail to use my gmail account?
[04:44] <Uriku> the password
[04:44] <sewoyl> gnomefreak, oh ok :(
[04:44] <phreak97> i tried and failed
[04:44] <MrPrimate> phreak97, do they give you pop access ?
[04:44] <phreak97> yeah
[04:45] <MrPrimate> phreak97, whats your problem you don't know what pop server to put in ?
[04:45] <phreak97> but for outlook express in windows they give you a configuration exe
[04:45] <gnomefreak> phreak97, gmail needs to be set for pop and personally i use thunderbird its easy
[04:45] <phreak97> i dont, no
[04:45] <MrPrimate> phreak97, no you go into account and put it in yourself
[04:45] <MrPrimate> phreak97, probably pop.gmail.com
[04:45] <gnomefreak> phreak97, the incomming server is pop.gmail.com out going is smtp.gmail.com
[04:45] <phreak97> thats what i though
[04:45] <MrPrimate> evolution will tell you if it can't see the server
[04:45] <phreak97> g
[04:45] <phreak97> t8
[04:46] <phreak97> gnomefreak,  thanks
[04:46] <MrPrimate> yeah put it all in you should be fine
[04:46] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:46] <Uriku> it... it can't find sudu?
[04:46] <Uriku> "bash: sudu: command not found
[04:46] <Uriku> "
[04:46] <gnomefreak> phreak97,  the ports will need to be changed also
[04:46] <phreak97> i need to give it a server
[04:46] <gnomefreak> incomming is 995 i think and outgoing is 587
[04:47] <tristan> Uriku : try to type sudo -s to become root
[04:47] <gnomefreak> phreak97, the server is pop.gmail.com
[04:47] <gnomefreak> for incomming
[04:47] <Uriku> same result
[04:47] <Uriku> but I don't have a root password
[04:47] <phreak97> gnomefreak,  it just says Server:
[04:47] <Uriku> because I don't have root
[04:47] <phreak97> not incoming or outgoing
[04:47] <Uriku> it's just a liveCD
[04:47] <mlopes> any good tutorial on how to make a deb package out of a compiled source package?
[04:47] <sewoyl> I always do sudo su to become root
[04:47] <phreak97> should it still be ok?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> phreak97, if you go to your gmail account and go into help it has a walkthrough
[04:48] <phreak97> ok, ill see
[04:48] <gnomefreak> pop.gmail.com is gmails server
[04:48] <tristan> Uriku : I understand your problem. I am trying to find a way to solve it
[04:48] <Sh4d0x> brb *installing some new packages
[04:48] <Uriku> woops... typed sudu
[04:48] <Uriku> should have typed sudo
[04:49] <gnomefreak> at this rate i might have dapper by newyears :(
[04:49] <dave_> how do i install azureus (bitorrent client)? i can run it but i want to install it so i can run it via icon, etc
[04:49] <Uriku> you could have told me that!!!
[04:49] <gnomefreak> sudo
[04:49] <SAM_theman> Yo People
[04:49] <gnomefreak> dave_, if you can run it its installed already just add it to launcher if it doesnt show up in menu
[04:50] <dave_> i run fluxbox gnomefreak, dont like gnome, its too slow on my laptop
[04:50] <dave_> and it wont run with the link i give it for the desktop menu
[04:50] <gnomefreak> dave_, fluxbox is very minimal youll be lucky to get a menu entry or icon for it
[04:51] <tristan> Uriku : is it working?
[04:51] <dave_> ive got menu entry for everthing else i use! :p hehe
[04:51] <Uriku> yarr... what do I need to type in the mount commad
[04:51] <Uriku> root@87:~/Desktop# mount /dev/hda HD
[04:51] <gnomefreak> dave_,  i have menu entries for half of what i use
[04:51] <Uriku> I need some type
[04:52] <tristan> Uriku : You should make a mount point before like mkdir /Desktop/Windows
[04:52] <dave_> like wen i type 'which firefox' is shows /usr/bin so can i make a link somehow to add to there so azureus shows up in 'which'
[04:52] <sewoyl> I wonder how many people wil lrecieve ubuntu cds as christmas presents :)
[04:52] <Uriku> I have a folder ready
[04:52] <Determinist> !backports
[04:52] <ubotu> backports is probably Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:52] <meepy> Is there a hotkey to switch working spaces?
[04:53] <Uriku> I think I'm lagging
[04:53] <Uriku> hm... this sometimes work:
[04:53] <Uriku> !ping
[04:53] <ubotu> pong
[04:53] <sewoyl> meepy, ctrl alt <arrow key>
[04:53] <meepy> Merci
[04:53] <meepy> :)
[04:53] <meepy> ..and merry christmas
[04:53] <sewoyl> meepy, de rien
[04:53] <tristan> Uriku : did you try to use the "disk " in System, Administration?
[04:53] <oris_wolfbane> hey guys
[04:53] <SAM_theman> i want to change my grub loader background how i do that?
[04:53] <oris_wolfbane> how come $ sudo apt-get install php4 no longer works?
[04:54] <Uriku> Tristan: I don't tink so, but I don't understand what do you mean
[04:54] <johndarkhorse> meepy: ctrl-alt-l/r arrow
[04:54] <meepy> :D
[04:54] <Uriku> I know I need to use the mount command, I just don't know how to use it
[04:55] <dave_> oh does anyone know how i can alter mouse acceleration in fluxbox? and keep it, i can change it in konqueror but it doesnt stay after reboot
[04:55] <sewoyl> meepy, if you wish to use oenbox instead of metacity as window manager in gnome you will be able to switch desktop by scrolling the wheel over the desktop
[04:55] <sewoyl> meepy, thats oPenbox
[04:55] <meepy> hmm
[04:55] <meepy> Something I will look into
[04:55] <Uriku> d'ou!
[04:56] <johndarkhorse> Uriku: in a terminal, type "man mount"
[04:56] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Uriku about mount
[04:57] <sewoyl> hey guys I have a question ... I've been trying to find the runlevel for textmode, this time on the hard drive install of breezy but inittab didn't help me as it doesnt say what level I should use ...
[04:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sewoyl about bum
[04:58] <Uriku> I think I'm getting there....
[04:59] <salah> How do I install PHP with apache2 in ubuntu?
[04:59] <ray> help
[04:59] <tristan> Uriku : try something like sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/Windows/
[04:59] <tristan> Uriku : where /dev/hdaX is the device and /media/Windows is the mount point
[05:00] <tristan> Uriku : in your case it is the folder you created to mount
[05:00] <Uriku> yes
[05:00] <meheren> i need help! g++ is dead is there a way to do a complete system reinstallation without remvoin my current fiels?
[05:00] <Uriku> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[05:00] <Uriku>        mount -h                 : print this help
[05:00] <Uriku>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[05:00] <Uriku>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[05:00] <Uriku> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[05:00] <Uriku> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[05:00] <Sh4d0x> woooooot everthing is reinstalled :D:D
[05:01] <Uriku> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[05:01] <Uriku> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[05:01] <Uriku> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[05:01] <Uriku> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[05:01] <tristan> Uriku : stop pasting here
[05:01] <oris_wolfbane> salah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:01] <Uriku> or move a subtree:
[05:01] <Uriku>        mount --move olddir newdir
[05:01] <Uriku> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[05:01] <tristan> Uriku : stop pasting here
[05:01] <Uriku> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[05:01] <Uriku> Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .
[05:01] <Uriku> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[05:01] <Uriku> that's what it says
[05:01] <bshumate> salah: sudo apt-get install php4
[05:01] <bshumate> salah: or for PHP5 : sudo apt-get install php5
[05:01] <Sh4d0x> but eurhm can someone tell me how to install a soundcard? i can play sounds but must be set at 60% to hear a bit sound
[05:02] <sewoyl> johndarkhorse, looks like bum froze on me!
[05:02] <Uriku> I guess it laggs
[05:02] <bshumate> salah: that will install php and apache2
[05:02] <tristan> Uriku : do you know which /dev/hdaX is your Windows partition?
[05:02] <meheren> i need help!!! my compiler iis dead and ive tried everything is there a way to do a complete reinstallation without reformatting the partition??
[05:02] <Uriku> yes
[05:02] <Uriku> hda
[05:02] <Uriku> wait....
[05:03] <sewoyl> meheren, what is not working ?
[05:04] <sewoyl> meheren, and the answer to your question is probably yes!!!
[05:04] <sewoyl> meheren, probably dont even have to reinstall more than a couiplepackages
[05:04] <sewoyl> couple packages* sorryu
[05:04] <Uriku> nope... it's not working
[05:04] <tristan> Uriku : In System, Administration, Disk, you should be able to know what is the /dev/hdaX for Windows
[05:05] <_viridis_> hello everybody
[05:05] <Uriku> I know I know it's /dev/hda
[05:05] <yaniss> hello
[05:05] <Sh4d0x> reboot brb
[05:06] <_viridis_> i have intel hda (alc260) soundcard, and no success to get any sound from it. It is a well known problem. Maybe anyone solved it?
[05:06] <meheren> g++ is not working
[05:06] <yaniss> I just used formated a new hdd to ext3, I mounted but now every file operation I try it return me permision denied message
[05:06] <tristan> Uriku : go with terminal in /etc/ and do more fstab
[05:06] <meheren> when i try to install a package dpkg says that it can not find g++
[05:07] <meheren> when i try to uninstall g++ it says it is there
[05:07] <salah> bshumate: It can't find the package
[05:07] <meheren> when i try to install it it says it ther already
[05:07] <Uriku> well... I got somewhere
[05:07] <meheren> lol i mean that when i try to uninstall it it thinks it is not there
[05:07] <Uriku> it says the folder is alread mounted or busy
[05:07] <meheren> i tried sudo apt-get -f isntall nothing
[05:08] <meheren> i tried downloading the package then trunning d[kg maually nothing...
[05:08] <tristan> Uriku : it says your Windows folder is mounted...?
[05:08] <tristan> Uriku : what is your mount point...?
[05:08] <Uriku> "mount: /dev/hda already mounted or HD busy
[05:08] <Uriku> "
[05:08] <Uriku> I am not sure what a mount point is
[05:09] <bshumate> salah: which are you installing?
[05:09] <Uriku> HD has a small lock icon on it
[05:09] <salah> php5
[05:09] <salah> I tried php4 too
[05:09] <tristan> Uriku : you typed mount /dev/hda/ something. Something is the mount point. What is it?
[05:09] <rednektek> I need some assistance can a person make a boot disk to install Ubuntu on an older system that dont suppord booting from CD and has no network connection??
[05:10] <Uriku> HD
[05:10] <tristan> Uriku : only HD...?
[05:10] <Uriku> ./HD
[05:10] <sewoyl> rednektek, its gotta be very old
[05:10] <bshumate> salah: try : sudo apt-get update
[05:10] <ray> quit
[05:10] <stylez023> oo
[05:11] <salah> bshumate: still not
[05:11] <rednektek> its a laptop... Toshieba Tecra 720 CDT
[05:11] <Uriku> I did: "mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda HD"
[05:11] <ray> leave
[05:11] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Uriku about ntfs
[05:11] <bneuro1> join #ubuntu.it
[05:11] <tristan> Uriku : I don't know it ./HD will work as a mounting point. Create a folder names HD in /media
[05:11] <johndarkhorse> Uriku: there is a nice script that'll do that for you
[05:11] <ray> unjoin
[05:11] <phreak97> ok, how do i get wmv's working?
[05:11] <phreak97> i have most of my other videos working
[05:11] <Uriku> ok, I'll put it at /media
[05:11] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell phreak97 about w32codecs
[05:12] <phreak97> thats what im looking about
[05:12] <phreak97> for*
[05:12] <tristan> Uriku : And then try mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda /media/HD
[05:12] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: then look at your PMs
[05:12] <Uriku> root@87:/media# mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda /media/HD
[05:12] <tristan> Uriku : then go to /media and open HD....
[05:12] <Uriku> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /media/HD busy
[05:12] <yaniss> what means the 'cs' jubber position in a hdd?
[05:12] <Uriku> I think it's mounted
[05:12] <johndarkhorse> yaniss: "cable select" and it shouldn't be used
[05:13] <meheren> can someone help me plz!!! i can't seem to be able to install any pckages
[05:13] <meheren> g++ is dead
[05:13] <yaniss> johndarkhorse: and pm2 position?
[05:13] <bneuro1> what mean this dmesg : [4308341.910000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:13] <bneuro1> [4308341.910000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[05:13] <johndarkhorse> meheren: are you using synaptic?
[05:13] <meheren> yes
[05:13] <tristan> Uriku ; yes it seems so. Can you open /media/HD ?
[05:13] <Seveas> meheren, put the errors you get on the pastebin
[05:14] <meheren> pastebin?
[05:14] <Uriku> it is empty
[05:14] <Seveas> !tell meheren about pastebin
[05:14] <Uriku> I think the CD is mounted, I just don't know where....
[05:14] <Uriku> T_T
[05:14] <tristan> Uriku : you try to mount the HD..., no?
[05:15] <Uriku> HD*
[05:15] <Uriku> sorry
[05:15] <phreak97> my partition is mounted, why doesnt it show in Computer?
[05:15] <Uriku> is there anyway to check?
[05:15] <tristan> Uriku : there is nothing in media?
[05:15] <Uriku> only HD
[05:16] <Uriku> and it's not the hard drive
[05:16] <Uriku> I'll change the name...
[05:16] <SAM_theman> brb
[05:16] <tristan> Uriku : how do you know it is not the hard drive?
[05:16] <Uriku> because it is empty
[05:17] <Uriku> root@87:/media# umount HD
[05:17] <Uriku> umount: HD: not mounted
[05:17] <tristan> Uriku : what do you see in System, Administration, Disk?
[05:17] <tristan> Uriku :  in partition menu after
[05:18] <Uriku> well... it says "status: inaccessible
[05:18] <Uriku> "
[05:18] <Uriku> and won't allow me to enable it
[05:18] <tristan> Uriku : for partitions?
[05:19] <tristan> Uriku : what is written for access path for your Windows partion
[05:19] <Uriku> hmm... "none"
[05:19] <Uriku> interesting
[05:19] <meheren> seveas, i did under errors
[05:20] <Uriku> yay!
[05:20] <Uriku> I'm browsing the damn thing!
[05:20] <meheren> seveas, acually ill put it under g++ corrupt error outputs
[05:20] <Seveas> meheren, oof, corrupted status file :S
[05:20] <bshumate> salah: you know how to edit files?
[05:20] <meheren> ?
[05:21] <MrPrimate> is it normal for ubuntu install to sit at "Configuring apt.... 25% Setting up primary installation repository" for more than 20 minutes ?
[05:21] <meheren> seveas, ? what you mean?
[05:21] <Seveas> meheren, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends g++4.0
[05:21] <tristan> Uriku : try : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/HD -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[05:21] <meheren> ok
[05:21] <Seveas> meheren, and then sudo apt-get -f install
[05:21] <tristan> Uriku : and browse the HD directory...
[05:21] <Varanger> hi
[05:21] <Uriku> it is working!
[05:22] <MrPrimate> has anyone ever had ubuntu install stall out at configuring apt 25%
[05:22] <Varanger> do you know any utility to convert a divx video in a mpeg-2 video?
[05:22] <chmod775> how can i configure wine for ubuntu
[05:22] <chmod775> ?
[05:22] <Uriku> now.... how do I make the HD folder in the Desktop accessable to me?
[05:22] <Uriku> wait... never mind
[05:22] <meheren> meheren@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -P --force-depends g++4.0
[05:22] <meheren> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3860 package `g++-4.0':
[05:22] <meheren>  missing version
[05:22] <MrPrimate> chmod775- get the packages and read the docs that comes with
[05:22] <phreak97> wow.. i almost have this to the point of being my primary os
[05:23] <chmod775> ok
[05:23] <phreak97> im incredibly close
[05:23] <meheren> seveas , didn't work...
[05:23] <phreak97> just a few creases to iron out
[05:23] <MrPrimate> phreak97, you'll love it once you're used to it
[05:23] <tristan> Uriku : the name of the device was wrong. But, you shouldn't write on it since it is NTFS
[05:23] <yaniss> I just used formated a new hdd to ext3, I mounted but now every file operation I try it return
[05:23] <Seveas> meheren, put lines 3855 to 3865 of that file on the pastebin
[05:23] <yaniss>                 me permision denied message
[05:23] <yaniss> I just used formated a new hdd to ext3, I mounted but now every file operation I try it return
[05:23] <yaniss>                 me permision denied message
[05:23] <phreak97> MrPrimate, i dont doubt that even slightly
[05:23] <meheren> ok
[05:23] <yaniss> sorry
[05:23] <tristan> Uriku : right click on the desktop and choose create a shortcut
[05:23] <chmod775> phreak97, what are u trying to install
[05:23] <chmod775> ?
[05:23] <tristan> Uriku : or mauncher I don't know in the English version
[05:24] <meheren> permission deneyed
[05:24] <chmod775> does any one know how to enable tranparency in gdesklets
[05:24] <phreak97> chmod775,  not much atm
[05:24] <meheren> open nautilus with sudo?
[05:24] <Uriku> now I have an "HD" icon on the Desktop
[05:24] <BoukenPink> Argh... I'm so frustrated right now. >.>
[05:24] <phreak97> i want to give myself permissions to file system
[05:24] <phreak97> i forget how
[05:24] <Uriku> and no premissions to read it
[05:24] <tristan> Then for name, choose the name you want to appear on the desltop and for command type : nautilus /media/HD
[05:24] <Uriku> oh!
[05:24] <Uriku> I went to the root's Desktop
[05:25] <meheren> seveas, even root says permission deneyed
[05:26] <Uriku> now.... how do I get to the original user Desktop?
[05:26] <Uriku> T_T
[05:26] <phreak97> chmod775,  i want to know why my fat32 partition doesnt show up in Computer or on the desktop
[05:26] <BoukenPink> I tried to install fglrx for my ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV and when I had it enabled in xorg.conf, my system would freeze (except the mouse) a couple minutes after logging on... >.>
[05:26] <phreak97> it did before
[05:26] <Uriku> shoot me now...
[05:26] <tristan> Uriku : now everything is working except you can't read the partition right?
[05:26] <got> Hey all, just wanted to say thanks for all the support, this little chat-room has helped me out over the past year! :) thanks again everyone...
[05:26] <phreak97> then i restarted and it was gone, i tried to remount it after that and still no luck
[05:26] <chmod775> oh phreak97 does'nt it show up?
[05:26] <phreak97> im assuming i wrote something wrong in fstab
[05:26] <Uriku> wait! I have an idea
[05:26] <phreak97> no, it doesnt
[05:27] <Uriku> oh the hell with that! the HD mount is accessable!
[05:27] <ulisse> hello!
[05:27] <phreak97> and the folder its mounted to is acting empty
[05:27] <meheren> seveas, how can i open this file?
[05:28] <ulisse> has anybody already tried gaim2 voice features?
[05:28] <phreak97> although, the partition is probably empty
[05:28] <phreak97> lol
[05:28] <nmsa> my dhcp is not giving ip to the other pc ... i have all configured but something's wrong ... where can I see some log files  for dhcp?
[05:28] <tristan> Uriku : now everything is working?
[05:28] <Seveas> meheren, less /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:28] <thanatosys> does anyone know of a way i can remove modules out of the kernel so that whenever I connect my palm with vmware running it automatically sends the device to vmware not ubuntu
[05:29] <bshumate> nmsa: probably in /var/log ?
[05:29] <Uriku> ...T_T...
[05:29] <meheren> ok
[05:29] <phreak97> chmod775,  can you tell me how to give myself full permissions to / ?
[05:29] <Uriku> how do I change to the root user?
[05:29] <Uriku> not in the kernal
[05:29] <nmsa> bshumate: there is nothign there
[05:29] <chmod775> chmod 777 /
[05:29] <chmod775> here you go
[05:29] <phreak97> cool
[05:29] <phreak97> thats the one
[05:29] <phreak97> whats 775 then? :P
[05:30] <Uriku> how do I log in as root?
[05:30] <meheren> seveas, ok i put it under the same name as the last
[05:30] <Uriku> he has all the premissions
[05:30] <Seveas> Uriku, not, you use sudo to become root
[05:31] <Uriku> ok, then how do I opne a window file browser>?
[05:31] <ClayG> is there no way to install pine through synaptic?
[05:31] <phreak97> is sudo chmod 777 / all i have to type?
[05:31] <meheren> seveas, it is under g++ curropt error output
[05:31] <phreak97> cos it didnt seem to work
[05:31] <Seveas> meheren, backup that file and remove all lines that relate to g++
[05:32] <phreak97> i know it's chmod 777, i remember now, but it still isnt working
[05:32] <Seveas> then rery installing it
[05:32] <tristan> Uriku : nautilus
[05:32] <chmod775> wait i m on the phone
[05:32] <phreak97> k
[05:32] <tristan> type : sudo nautilus
[05:32] <meheren> ok
[05:32] <nmsa> I have a crossed cable between the pc's ... lan connected. I need a cressed or no?
[05:32] <Demian___> hello
[05:33] <phreak97> nmsa, if you have no hub, switch, router, or otherwise, then yes, you need a crossover
[05:33] <Demian___> what's the best way to convert .rm to a better video format
[05:33] <Demian___> ?
[05:33] <Uriku> yay!
[05:33] <tristan> Uriku : I assume everything is OK now
[05:33] <Seveas> Demian___, mencoder may help
[05:33] <bshumate> nmsa: check /var/log/messages for dhcpd errors
[05:33] <Demian___> Hee seveas :)
[05:33] <nmsa> phreak97: I have no hub nor switch
[05:33] <Demian___> cool thnx
[05:34] <phreak97> nmsa,  then you do need the crossover cable
[05:34] <Uriku> T_T.... why me!?!?!
[05:34] <Uriku> the File browser can't show files with hebrew names
[05:34] <nmsa> lan card are direct connected, ok, perfect then ... I shall check messages in /var/log
[05:34] <got> ? regarding software updates in Ubuntu, when software updates are installed, is it reqired to reboot system?
[05:35] <Uriku> I'll try to reboot and stat with Hebrew interface.....
[05:35] <Uriku> bye
[05:36] <shawnh>  your welcome
[05:36] <bshumate> nmsa: are you using a crossover cable to connect the two machines together?
[05:36] <meheren> ok i did what was the command to run again?
[05:36] <shawnh> used to use net meeting
[05:36] <phreak97> chmod775,  it's just gone 3am, will you be much longer on the phone?
[05:36] <meheren> wasn't it something like dpkg -P --???-???
[05:37] <phreak97> it's just made / read only
[05:37] <shawnh> where  do  you  live  phreak97
[05:37] <chmod775> yes
[05:37] <chmod775> tell me
[05:37] <phreak97> australia
[05:37] <chmod775> phreak97,
[05:37] <meheren> seveas,?
[05:37] <phreak97> yup?
[05:37] <shawnh> just after  9:30 am here
[05:37] <chmod775> what ;s the problem
[05:37] <chmod775> ?
[05:37] <phreak97> i want to be able to set permissions
[05:37] <phreak97> and all i have now is greyed out boxes
[05:37] <chmod775> to which directory
[05:37] <chmod775> ?
[05:38] <phreak97> pretty much everything
[05:38] <nmsa> bshumate: yes
[05:38] <chmod775> but why?
[05:38] <frankreijnhout> hi all
[05:38] <phreak97> file system for now
[05:38] <Fujoor> what is the command to see ones ip number? lwconfig? ipconfig? i forgot it
[05:38] <nmsa> bshumate: and I can
[05:38] <chmod775> ifconfig
[05:38] <phreak97> so i can put stuff in folders
[05:38] <Fujoor> ah tahts it, thanks
[05:38] <phreak97> rather than look at stuff thats already there
[05:38] <Seveas> meheren, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:38] <chmod775> only set permissions to that folder
[05:38] <nmsa> bshumate: and I can't ping the pc's even with fixed IP's
[05:38] <meheren> ok
[05:38] <chmod775> why do u want to set to all
[05:38] <chmod775> ?
[05:39] <phreak97> make things easier
[05:39] <phreak97> i did it last install
[05:39] <chmod775> chmod 777 /home/phreak97 something like this
[05:39] <meheren> moment of truth...
[05:39] <chmod775> prefix with sudo
[05:39] <phreak97> ill give it a go
[05:39] <Fujoor> chmod: howcome ifconfig doesnt work in ubuntu?
[05:39] <frankreijnhout> i guess there are no non - oss tools in the default reposetory's... i am missing things like skype, divx, and win32codecs. are there any reposetory's that do have this packages ?
[05:39] <meheren> hmmm
[05:39] <chmod775> Fujoor, are u on wireless
[05:39] <meheren> seveas,Reading package lists... Error!
[05:39] <meheren> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[05:39] <meheren> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:39] <meheren> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[05:40] <Fujoor> chmod: no, normal eth0
[05:40] <phreak97> didnt help
[05:40] <BoukenPink> ... How do I change a symlink? :3
[05:40] <phreak97> you sure theres no switch for chmod?
[05:40] <phreak97> everything has a padlock icon on it now
[05:40] <phreak97> like it locked everything
[05:40] <Varanger> does someone know any utility to convert a divx video in a mpeg-2 video?
[05:41] <phreak97> Varanger,  i used virtualdub in windows
[05:41] <phreak97> but you have to have the mpeg-2 encoding codecs
[05:42] <Varanger> Where can I get them?
[05:42] <phreak97> lol i dunno
[05:42] <chmod775> phreak97, what error u are getting
[05:42] <phreak97> was a long time ago
[05:42] <chmod775> ?
[05:42] <johndarkhorse> Varanger: use synaptic and search for mpeg
[05:42] <chmod775> what are u trying to do?
[05:42] <phreak97> chmod775,  none
[05:42] <chmod775> huh?
[05:43] <SAM_theman> http://media.putfile.com/JediSpam-and-g00se-001
[05:43] <SAM_theman> :D
[05:43] <phreak97> when i right click on something, click properties, then click permissions, i want to be able to change stuff
[05:43] <meheren> seveas, it did not work
[05:43] <Seveas> meheren, ok, I need a bit more from that file, lines 3600 - 3700 will do
[05:43] <chmod775> try to give sudo permissions
[05:43] <meheren> ok... wow!
[05:44] <chmod775> just refer to www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> hi SAM_theman :D
[05:44] <SAM_theman> Yo
[05:44] <SAM_theman> i missed u
[05:44] <SAM_theman> for 2 hours
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> ow?
[05:44] <SAM_theman> lool j/k
[05:44] <Sh4d0x> player :p
[05:44] <SAM_theman> :D
[05:44] <phreak97> chmod775,  will that help me get rid of the orange padlocks which chmod 777 managed to make?
[05:45] <Seveas> chmod775, DON'T
[05:45] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org is crap
[05:45] <Sh4d0x> which was the command you gave me yesterday for gdesklets?
[05:45] <Seveas> better refer to help.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <chmod775> What Seveas ?
[05:45] <shawnh> is this  xchat?
[05:47] <meheren> seveas, ok it is underr /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:47] <pashaw> Sh4d0x,   huh?   xchat is a program   this is IRC
[05:48] <pashaw> Sh4d0x,   sorry  auto complete   mesedup
[05:48] <meheren> i gave you lines 3842-3889
[05:48] <shawnh> okay then
[05:48] <shawnh>  what is the differance
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> pashaw, idd :)
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> pashaw, np :)
[05:48] <Uriku> it's me... again... T_T
[05:48] <phreak97> 6.12.	
[05:48] <phreak97> How do I change files/folders permissions?
[05:48] <phreak97> 
[05:48] <phreak97>    1.
[05:48] <phreak97>       Right click the file or folder. Select the Properties option. Select the Permissions tab. For the Owner, Group and Others check/uncheck the Read, Write, Execute options to set or unset permissions.
[05:48] <shawnh> uruki
[05:49] <Uriku> the file browser doesn't show any files in Hebrew
[05:49] <chmod775> wait phreak97
[05:49] <Uriku> though I guess it's because it's on an NTFS HD
[05:49] <NetGrunt> hi there
[05:49] <phreak97> ok, my bad
[05:49] <phreak97> chmod775,  this is what it tells me to do, this is what i cannot do
[05:49] <chmod775> phreak97,
[05:49] <chmod775> cool will you
[05:49] <Seveas> meheren, ok, i'm puzzled, can you gzip the file and send it to dennis@ubuntu.com
[05:49] <NetGrunt> Does anybody know which is the best way to copy a DVD under Ubuntu 5.10 ? (Like DVDShrink under windows)
[05:49] <meheren> ok
[05:50] <Uriku> any chat channels about Israeli Ubuntu?
[05:50] <phreak97> well what do i do?
[05:50] <chmod775> do u want to set permission by right clicking right?
[05:50] <chmod775> chill and breathe first
[05:50] <Seveas> UrbanFox, #ubuntu-il or #ubuntu-he perhaps
[05:50] <meheren> you sure you wnat me to gzip it?
[05:50] <phreak97> yup
[05:50] <chmod775> wait
[05:50] <chmod775> let me
[05:50] <chmod775> see
[05:50] <navarone> Uriku ^ read what Seveas posted
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> Seveas how do you switch channel? :$
[05:51] <Seveas> navarone, good catch :)
[05:51] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, depends on your client :)
[05:51] <chmod775> phreak97, u want to create a folder and set the permission using nautilus right ?
[05:51] <navarone> Sh4d0x,  /join #channel name
[05:51] <pashaw> Ubuntu channel list  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> navarone thnx :) maybe i'll find a dutch server :D
[05:52] <phreak97> chmod775,  what's nautilus?
[05:52] <navarone> Sh4d0x, are you using Xchat?
[05:52] <phreak97> lol
[05:52] <Uriku> ooh! I know htat
[05:52] <Sh4d0x> navarone yup
[05:52] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: your file manager/desktop
[05:52] <Uriku> nautilus is a file browser
[05:52] <chmod775> what the heck are u trying to do
[05:52] <chmod775> ?
[05:52] <phreak97> then yes
[05:52] <Sh4d0x> navarone but i like to add this server to my gaim
[05:52] <chmod775> u r confusing me
[05:52] <Seveas> meheren, i'm afk for a sec, PM me when the mail is sent :)
[05:53] <chmod775> see create a folder using a regular user
[05:53] <phreak97> well
[05:53] <phreak97> holdon
[05:53] <chmod775> and u can go and chnage the permissions
[05:53] <phreak97> ill take a screenshot of this
[05:53] <navarone> Sh4d0x, try Windows/Cahnnel List in menu...you can refresh list and in "Regex" field put in word to match to get certain channerls "ie Dutch" for Dutch channels
[05:53] <Uriku> only trouble is that the room is quite empty
[05:53] <meheren> ok
[05:53] <meheren> sry my comp is starting to lag a bit
[05:53] <Sh4d0x> navarone, thnx
[05:53] <navarone> np
[05:53] <meheren> i have a hundred thoused windows open
[05:54] <navarone> meheren must be drafty...but you are using breezy...:)
[05:54] <Uriku> well... I think I should stop at the peek...
[05:54] <Fujoor> howcome no matter what i install my linux whants me to put in the ubuntu cd
[05:54] <Uriku> bye
[05:54] <Fujoor> wants
[05:54] <meheren> pIII 500 lol
[05:55] <kestas> Fujoor, you need to change your sources.list to get from online repos
[05:55] <phreak97> this shows the greyed out checkboxes, and the padlock icons
[05:55] <meheren> ah! how do i pm?
[05:55] <phreak97> both of which i want to change
[05:55] <phreak97> bah, ill be back tomorrow
[05:55] <navarone> meheren you can only pm if you are registered...yopur nick that is
[05:55] <johndarkhorse> Fujoor: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the line with deb cdrom in it
[05:55] <phreak97> it's 3:30
[05:55] <phreak97> so much for my early night
[05:55] <meheren> it is
[05:55] <Fujoor> ah, okej, thanks guys
[05:55] <phreak97> i got hooked into linux again instead
[05:56] <Fujoor> only those with cdrom, right? not the universe ones
[05:56] <meheren> my nick is regitered
[05:56] <phreak97> thanks for your help chmod775 , much appreciated
[05:56] <quentin> LINUX RULES!!!!!
[05:56] <johndarkhorse> Fujoor: there should be only one line with cdrom in it
[05:56] <chmod775> Man I did'nt help u at all
[05:56] <phreak97> if you want to get the screenshot im sending you, you can see what i want to dso anyway
[05:56] <phreak97> do*
[05:56] <chmod775> if u create folders using root
[05:56] <NewIRC> im downloading  dapper drake 6.04
[05:56] <chmod775> they will be greyed out
[05:57] <navarone> !pastebin
[05:57] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:57] <navarone> phreak try that to paste
[05:57] <phreak97> chmod775,  how do i even login as root? is it possible?
[05:57] <johndarkhorse> chmod we don't use root in ubuntu
[05:57] <chmod775> create a folder using a regular user and then right click folder proerpties
[05:57] <yee> excuse me! could someone tell me how to speed up Wine?
[05:57] <quentin> does anyone know how to get a Lexmark 510 Series printer hooked up to a windows printer over the network working
[05:57] <NewIRC> the new ubuntu
[05:57] <NewIRC> have the firefox 1.5 installed :)
[05:57] <chmod775> and then they are not geryed out
[05:57] <Fujoor> john: aah it worked, lovely, thanks :D
[05:57] <chmod775> phreak97, yes
[05:57] <chmod775> sudo root passwd
[05:57] <chmod775> change the password and then login
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> chmod775: do not advise that please
[05:58] <meheren> new irc you should use 1.7
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> chmod775: sudo works fine, and is how ubuntu handles superuser duties
[05:58] <malv> how would I keep ohci-hcd from being loaded on boot?
[05:58] <chmod775> johndarkhorse, folks are u gonna help this guy instead of telling me
[05:58] <chmod775> thing
[05:58] <chmod775> s
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: creating a root account will not do you any good, you can anything you like using "sudo"
[05:59] <malv> i added the module to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it still gets loaded
[05:59] <NewIRC> meheren  why ?
[05:59] <NewIRC> you mean 1.07 ?
[05:59] <meheren> no
[05:59] <meheren> 1.7 beta version
[05:59] <phreak97> chmod775,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6127
[05:59] <NewIRC> new beta ?
[06:00] <chmod775> k
[06:00] <NewIRC> news for me
[06:00] <johndarkhorse> chmod775: unfortunately i'm in an office answering multiple phone lines and dispatching taxicabs, or i would be more helpful, but please dont adivse setting up a root account
[06:00] <meheren> 1.5 is current
[06:00] <NewIRC> yes
[06:00] <NewIRC> yes but i dont knewd that they have a new beta 1.7
[06:00] <chmod775> then help this guy out If u know better
[06:00] <SAM_theman> GUYS look this is Co0l
[06:01] <SAM_theman> omg
[06:01] <navarone> johndarkhorse, I would guess you'll be even busier come New Years...lol
[06:01] <chmod775> phreak97, see
[06:01] <xerophyte>  does anybody know any other ampache kind of software???
[06:01] <SAM_theman> i love you mplayer movie plugin
[06:01] <chmod775> first create a folder using a regular user
[06:01] <SAM_theman> http://x700.putfile.com/videos/33417442439.mpg
[06:01] <SAM_theman> haha
[06:01] <chmod775> and then goto GUI and right click
[06:01] <NewIRC> oh but this one 1.7 is not firefox
[06:01] <chmod775> and then u can set ur permissions
[06:01] <SAM_theman> i had to save it to my hardrive
[06:01] <phreak97> chmod775,  those padlocks werent there before i did chmod 777 /
[06:02] <phreak97> if i can just get rid of them again ill be happy
[06:02] <chmod775> wait
[06:03] <chmod775> it's rwx for user
[06:03] <Polygon89> hey i have a question, im installing ati drivers and this article im reading says to "stop and restart" your X server, can someone explain how this is done?
[06:03] <chmod775> r-x for group and others r-x
[06:03] <chmod775> so do a chmod 755
[06:03] <pashaw> Polygon89,    ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:03] <chmod775> u revert ot back
[06:03] <Polygon89> thats it?
[06:04] <kemik> Polygon89:  yes
[06:04] <Polygon89> thanks once again pashaw ;)
[06:04] <pashaw> :P
[06:04] <chmod775> phreak97,
[06:04] <phreak97> chmod775,  that got rid of them, thanks heaps
[06:04] <Polygon89> ill come back if all hell breaks loose
[06:04] <Sh4d0x> cedega was the emulator for games hu?
[06:04] <bob832> where could i find info about writing a firestarter script that changes the interface on boot?
[06:04] <chmod775> now anything else?
[06:04] <kemik> Sh4d0x:  yes
[06:04] <phreak97> lemme see
[06:05] <chmod775> What were u trying earlier to do ?
[06:05] <chmod775> tell me maybe I may be able to help you
[06:05] <Papageno> How can I upgrade my firefox to 1.5? apt-get only has 1.0.7. Is this recommended? If not, why not?
[06:05] <Sh4d0x> kemik: do i also need a .exe emulator then?
[06:05] <grajul> im having a problem with adept when i open it it says Su returned with an error. does any one no how to fix it
[06:05] <phreak97> chmod775,  make it so i have permissions
[06:05] <phreak97> to /
[06:05] <chmod775> make what
[06:05] <kemik> Sh4d0x:  cedega is a windows emulator with 3d support
[06:05] <pashaw> !firefox
[06:05] <chmod775> hey phreak97 don't do that
[06:05] <ubotu> well, firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[06:05] <chmod775> ok
[06:06] <hhurtta> merry christmas to all of you. Dont spend all the christmas on computer...
[06:06] <chmod775> u can mess up with the system
[06:06] <chmod775> doing that
[06:06] <phreak97> hmm
[06:06] <chmod775> plzzzzzzzzz
[06:06] <meheren> firefox is the best!
[06:06] <meheren> (opera is second)
[06:06] <phreak97> well, i have to go for now anyway
[06:06] <Sh4d0x> kemik: ooh nice, so i don't need any other 3D setting program
[06:06] <phreak97> so itll stay as is
[06:06] <phreak97> btw i got gmail going in evolution
[06:06] <pashaw> !firefox1.5
[06:06] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:06] <meheren> hhurtta don't worry i will!!
[06:06] <phreak97> if you were here for that
[06:06] <chmod775> cool
[06:07] <chmod775> huh phreak97
[06:07] <chmod775> ?
[06:07] <phreak97> well, thanks for that
[06:07] <phreak97> 'night
[06:07] <bob832> i am trying to setup whereami and wanted to make a script to change the interface based on "where i'm at"
[06:07] <chmod775> k
[06:07] <chmod775> ur welcome
[06:08] <paal> where do i find the console in ubuntu?
[06:09] <bob832> paal: applicantions/accessories/terminal
[06:10] <paal> thanks :P ive just installed ubuntu!
[06:10] <bob832> np
[06:12] <beub> il y a des francais
[06:12] <uber_spaced> what package do i install to allow me to ssh into my machine?
[06:13] <niffe> uber_spaced: sudo apt-get install ssh
[06:13] <Goshawk> uber_spaced, openssh-server: usr/sbin/sshd
[06:14] <Goshawk> for the server
[06:14] <uber_spaced> thanks
[06:14] <Goshawk> and ssh for the client
[06:14] <Malachi> Now that Ubuntu is FINALLY up and running correctly on my computer.....
[06:14] <Malachi> What should I do?
[06:15] <Goshawk> Malachi, whatever you wanna do with a free OS
[06:15] <uber_spaced> haha.  when I first installed, i didnt have 127.0.0.1 in my hosts.allow file... that would explain why I couldnt ssh
[06:15] <Malachi> That's the thing.
[06:15] <uber_spaced> thanks for your help.
[06:15] <Malachi> I got it because I love OpenSource,
[06:15] <dfgas> how do i get firefox to play asf files?
[06:15] <Malachi> And I like Linux (from what I've dealt with it)
[06:15] <Khisanth> heh a solution looking for a problem
[06:16] <Malachi> But now it's just sitting there.
[06:16] <Goshawk> Malachi, ok next step is to find programs to replace windows ones
[06:16] <Malachi> Starting with a good video editing software.
[06:16] <Malachi> Any ideas?
[06:16] <Goshawk> Malachi, yep cinerella
[06:16] <Goshawk> Malachi, but wait
[06:16] <Malachi> I've tried JahShaka, but it doesn't have any good tutorials.
[06:16] <Malachi> Cinerella?
[06:16] <Goshawk> it can be written wrong
[06:17] <Malachi> Goshawk, what can be written wrong?
[06:17] <Goshawk> Malachi, no it's right http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[06:17] <Sh4d0x> hmm strange
[06:17] <Malachi> I'll check it out.
[06:17] <Goshawk> Malachi, jahshaka and cinerella seem to be the best ones
[06:18] <Malachi> Okay.
[06:18] <Goshawk> but they are not supported n ubuntu
[06:18] <Goshawk> s/n/on
[06:18] <Malachi> Any good tutorials out there?
[06:18] <Goshawk> cinerella is an old program and there are a lot of tutorial, google it
[06:18] <Sh4d0x> i got 2 os (win xp & ubuntu) but the time in my xp isn't correct :s there is a difference of an houre :s can someone tell me how to fix this?
[06:18] <Goshawk> jahshaka is newest, and i don't know
[06:19] <Unity> kino is a video editor for kde
[06:19] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, when you installed ubuntu did you set the time to gtm?
[06:19] <Sh4d0x> goshawk yup
[06:19] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, that's the problem
[06:20] <Sh4d0x> goshawk huh?
[06:20] <Malachi> I'll get both. What can it hurt?
[06:20] <Goshawk> Windows use the hw clock set to local time
[06:20] <Malachi> Goshawk, what's the difference between Cinerella and HeroineWarrior's version?
[06:20] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, so how can I fix this now? do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:21] <Goshawk> Malachi, i think that HeroineWarrior is the company that produces cinerella, i never used it, so i don't know
[06:21] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, reinstall (and format) are windows-like words
[06:21] <Goshawk> you are in  linux :D
[06:21] <Malachi> Ah.
[06:21] <Goshawk> linux can be set to use hw clock for localtime or gtm
[06:22] <Goshawk> you should dpkg-reconfigure something
[06:22] <Goshawk> give me more minutes
[06:22] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk ok, :)
[06:22] <thegladiator> how can i umount a cd (faulty seemingly) which is being read all the time !
[06:22] <bDerrly> thegladiator, eject it?
[06:23] <irvin> thegladiator, sudo umount /media/cdrom
[06:23] <thegladiator> eject with immediate effect
[06:23] <thegladiator> sudo doesnt work
[06:23] <thegladiator> says device is busy
[06:23] <thegladiator> since the cd is faulty
[06:23] <bDerrly> do you have nautilus looking in it?
[06:23] <irvin> thegladiator, sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[06:23] <thegladiator> linux tries to read it and fails
[06:23] <bDerrly> how do you know it is mounted?
[06:23] <thegladiator> -f
[06:23] <conn> can someone with dapper please show me the proposed packages to be removed when you "sudo apt-get remove locales" please?
[06:24] <bDerrly> conn, if you look at the man page for apt-get there is the --dry-run setting i believe
[06:24] <conn> (don't accept this, I just need to know so I can reinstall what I removed after doing this)
[06:24] <thegladiator> it is mounted coz i can see the cdrom symbol in dekstop and moreover it is a VCD and when i try to play a movie ( i can see the file) , it kinda goes into this mode
[06:24] <bDerrly> conn, and i would recommend using dpkg --purge rather than apt-get remove
[06:24] <Evil_Whisper> I need some help with compiling wine please. :-)
[06:25] <bDerrly> thegladiator, if your only hint is that it is on the desktop then it is the automounter and should allow you to just eject the disc
[06:25] <conn> bDerrly: I need to know the answer please, I already removed locales and it removed language-pack-en and other packages, I need to know precisely what they were
[06:25] <conn> (to reinstall)
[06:25] <bDerrly> conn, well, it is going to vary by install
[06:26] <conn> well if you can give me the results it may help, even if on breezy
[06:26] <Polygon89> hi again.....
[06:27] <bDerrly> conn, what i msged you is from dapper
[06:27] <Polygon89> ummm ubuntu does not boot up now... and i did nothing to it since i installed it yesterday besides installing ndis wrapper
[06:27] <bDerrly> Polygon89, how about an error message?
[06:27] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:27] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x,  hwclock --set --date=newdate
[06:28] <Polygon89> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[06:28] <conn> thanks, I got it
[06:28] <Goshawk> where newdate is 'month/day/year/ hour:min:sec'
[06:28] <Evil_Whisper> Polygon89: Have you tried Fsck?
[06:28] <Goshawk> when you did it contact me again
[06:28] <Polygon89> im like brand new and i have no idea what that is...
[06:28] <Polygon89> like i said i just installed it yesterday and today it wont boot up
[06:29] <Evil_Whisper> Polygon89: Do you have a liveCD?
[06:29] <Polygon89> (it booted up yesterday btw)
[06:29] <Polygon89> i have a knoppix live cd, not one of ubuntu
[06:29] <Evil_Whisper> I think that might work
[06:29] <Evil_Whisper> hold on
[06:29] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, so i just have to type that command in a terminal?
[06:29] <Evil_Whisper> !fsck
[06:29] <bDerrly> Polygon89, it looks like grub is pointing to an incorrect device
[06:29] <bDerrly> unknown-block (0,0)
[06:29] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, yep sudo  hwclock  --localtime --set --date=newdate
[06:30] <Polygon89> well why did it change, i didnt do anything to it
[06:30] <bDerrly> Polygon89, what is your hard drive setup?
[06:30] <Polygon89> unless windows did something to it
[06:30] <Polygon89> ok i got a 120 gig
[06:30] <DJ_Mirage> hi, my display doesnt want to go above 1024x768 under ubuntu, where can I change that in config files ?, its supposed to do 1600x1200 :)
[06:30] <Polygon89> with 3 partitons
[06:30] <bDerrly> Polygon89, have you installed windows since you installed ubuntu?
[06:30] <Polygon89> one: windows
[06:30] <Polygon89> two: ntfs with programs
[06:30] <Evil_Whisper> DJ_Mirage: have you installed your graphics card drivers?
[06:30] <DJ_Mirage> yup
[06:30] <DJ_Mirage> the ati drivers
[06:30] <Polygon89> three: fat32 for a shared partition between windows and linux
[06:30] <bDerrly> Polygon89, ICK!
[06:30] <bDerrly> don't use fat32 for linux....no no no!
[06:30] <Polygon89> ?
[06:30] <Polygon89> noooo
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> DJ_Mirage: You can try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <dfgas> how do i get firefox to play asf files?
[06:31] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, euhm and that really works everytime i boot?
[06:31] <Polygon89> i have
[06:31] <Fujoor> what is the file manager in ubuntu called?
[06:31] <Polygon89> a second hard drive
[06:31] <Polygon89> for linux
[06:31] <bDerrly> Fujoor, nautilus
[06:31] <Polygon89> that is just for stuff i need on both OSES
[06:31] <DJ_Mirage> Evil_Whisper, thanks :)
[06:31] <Polygon89> like music
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> DJ_Mirage: Be very careful though and back it up first
[06:31] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, no wait
[06:31] <Fujoor> bderrly: thanks
[06:31] <bDerrly> Polygon89, ok, phew...
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> You welcom DJ_Mirage
[06:31] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:31] <Evil_Whisper> *welcome
[06:31] <bDerrly> Polygon89, so you have a second drive with ext3?
[06:31] <Polygon89> no i had windows xp home installed before linux
[06:31] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:31] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, now do sudo hwclock
[06:31] <bDerrly> Polygon89, you're getting to a grub screen?
[06:31] <Goshawk> and paste here
[06:32] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:32] <Polygon89> it asks me what os to boot
[06:32] <Polygon89> ubuntu, ubuntu recover and windows
[06:32] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk k, a sec
[06:32] <bDerrly> and ubuntu fails with the error you pasted earlier?
[06:32] <Polygon89> yes
[06:32] <bDerrly> have you tried ubuntu-recovery?
[06:32] <Polygon89> no
[06:32] <Evil_Whisper> Does anyone know how to fix the issue where when you compile wine and try to install it it says It cannot overwrite the mime file because its in capplets-data as well?
[06:32] <Polygon89> does that give me a command line?
[06:32] <bDerrly> give that a whirl see if you can find any relevant error messages
[06:33] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk: "za 24 dec 2005 18:32:29 CET  -0.167813 seconden
[06:33] <Sh4d0x> " is the result
[06:33] <Polygon89> ok ill try that real fast
[06:33] <Polygon89> brb
[06:33] <bDerrly> Polygon89, i can't remember...
[06:33] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, it it right?
[06:33] <Polygon89> cant remember what?
[06:33] <johndarkhorse> Evil_Whisper: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:33] <Goshawk> s/it/is
[06:33] <bDerrly> if it takes you to a command line "reboot" will reboot your machine
[06:33] <Polygon89> ok
[06:33] <Polygon89> thanks
[06:33] <Polygon89> ill give it a try
[06:33] <Polygon89> brb
[06:33] <bDerrly> good luck  :)
[06:33] <Polygon89> yep
[06:33] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, yes, but in windows it will now be 17:32
[06:33] <BoukenPink> Alrighty... I've tried to install fglrx for my AIW Radeon 8500DV, and when it's enabled in xorg.conf my computer freezes (except the mouse) after about a minute after I've logged on... and I'm prety new, and tried out a couple things I've found on the forums to no avail and the same freezing result... Could anyone please help me? :D
[06:34] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, wait
[06:34] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk oki :)
[06:34] <navarone> evilwhisper you can try #WineHQ
[06:34] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, now do sudo hwclock -s
[06:34] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk ok, just a sec
[06:35] <BoukenPink> I wanted to play America's Army. >.>
[06:35] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, it just starts a new line
[06:35] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, ok now do date
[06:35] <Goshawk> "date"
[06:35] <Goshawk> and paste
[06:36] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk: k
[06:36] <navarone> BoukenPink,  try this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[06:36] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk: "za dec 24 18:36:07 CET 2005
[06:36] <Sh4d0x> " is the result
[06:36] <Chris_Tucker> how do i fix this without rebooting?
[06:36] <Chris_Tucker> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:36] <Chris_Tucker> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:36] <BoukenPink> navarone, I've been browsing that thread... So far, nothing... but I'll keep looking. >.>
[06:37] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, ok it's right, now it should work, if it will not look at /usr/share/zone
[06:37] <Goshawk> info
[06:37] <Goshawk> Sh4d0x, now reeboot
[06:37] <bshumate> Chris_Tucker:  lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:37] <bshumate> Chris_Tucker: find the proc grabbing the file, and kill it
[06:37] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk ok thnx very much
[06:37] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk brb
[06:38] <Chris_Tucker> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[06:38] <Chris_Tucker> Output information may be incomplete.
[06:38] <irvin> Chris_Tucker, are you using synaptic and apt at the same time?
[06:38] <navarone> BoukenPink,  good luck :)
[06:39] <grajul> hello im having trouble launching adapt can anyone help me
[06:39] <Chris_Tucker> irvin: no, another instance of apt-get died on me...
[06:39] <Chris_Tucker> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[06:39] <Chris_Tucker> [1] + Stopped sudo apt-get remove php4-gd
[06:39] <BoukenPink> navarone, Thanks. :)
[06:39] <cyphos> is there a startup guide yet for 5.10?
[06:39] <Polygon89> well i cant boot up in recovery mode either
[06:40] <navarone> BoukenPink, I'm using anvidia card...so I can't offer much input
[06:40] <Polygon89> error messages: crc error
[06:40] <cyphos> does the 5.04 directly apply to 5.10?
[06:40] <navarone> Polygon89, are you trying to boot a live cd?
[06:40] <Polygon89> VFS cannot open root device "mapper/Ubuntu-root" or unknown-block(0,0)
[06:40] <Polygon89> please append a correct "root=" boot option
[06:41] <bob832> cyphos:  i use the 5.04 guide and everything works fine
[06:41] <Polygon89> and the same error as last time
[06:41] <cyphos> great, thanks
[06:41] <Polygon89> no not from a live cd
[06:41] <bob832> cyphos: to answer your other question, i'm not sure about an updated one for 5.10
[06:41] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell cyphos about faq
[06:41] <shwag> a USB drive is automounting, but I dont have permissions to modify the files on it. How do I fix this ?
[06:41] <bshumate> Chris_Tucker:  lsof | egrep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:42] <pashaw> DJ_Mirage,   resolution problem?
[06:42] <bshumate> Chris_Tucker: nm...bleurgh
[06:43] <Chris_Tucker> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[06:43] <Chris_Tucker> Output information may be incomplete.
[06:44] <Polygon89> so anyone have any advise for me and my unbootable ubuntu? =/
[06:44] <Polygon89> **advice
[06:45] <pashaw> Polygon89,  your windows boots?
[06:45] <Polygon89> yeah
[06:45] <Polygon89> im on it now
[06:45] <pashaw> Polygon89,   what bootloader?
[06:46] <navarone> Polygon89, did you jsut do dist upgrade?
[06:46] <Polygon89> its the defualt one from the installation, i thing grub
[06:46] <Polygon89> and no i didnt do a dist upgrade
[06:46] <Polygon89> i wiped my hard drive and installed it fresh
[06:47] <bDerrly> Polygon89, well, this is going to be a choice for you:  boot a live cd and try to fix grub with a howto or reinstall ubuntu.  personally i would take the challenge and try to fix grub with a live cd
[06:47] <Polygon89> will i need to download a unbuntu live cd
[06:48] <bDerrly> Polygon89, i think it looks like grub is pointing to the wrong boot device
[06:48] <bDerrly> Polygon89, you can use knoppix.
[06:48] <Polygon89> cause i have a knoppix live cd here cause i needed to do some partition stuffs
[06:48] <Polygon89> ok
[06:48] <bDerrly> i use my knoppix for all my live booting
[06:48] <bDerrly> Polygon89, did you say you installed xp before or after linux?
[06:48] <Polygon89> so how do i make grub point to the right device
[06:48] <Fujoor> i only seem to have partioned one of my harddisk, how do i find the other one?
[06:48] <Polygon89> i had XP installed on one hard drive
[06:48] <Polygon89> and then yesterday i installed ubuntu on a completly different hard drive
[06:49] <bDerrly> Polygon89, and ubuntu booted without problems yesterday?
[06:49] <Polygon89> so what exactly do i need to do to make grub point to the right device?
[06:49] <Polygon89> yes
[06:49] <Polygon89> right after install
[06:49] <Polygon89> and i installed ndis wrapper
[06:50] <Polygon89> didnt do anything with it and rebooted the computer and booted into windows xp
[06:50] <bDerrly> Polygon89, you need to open up a text editor (probably nano) and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <Polygon89> what SHOULD it say
[06:50] <bDerrly> hey cool, comcast is here!  :)
[06:50] <bDerrly> getting cable modem installed today :)
[06:51] <Polygon89> cool
[06:51] <decklin> where is the 'component' box in bugzilla? (entering a new report)
[06:51] <bDerrly> Polygon89, that depends on what drive your linux is on
[06:51] <bshumate> Chris_Tucker: you have to use sudo for that command i gave...
[06:51] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk: yup it worked
[06:51] <Polygon89> its on my second hard drive
[06:51] <Sh4d0x> Goshawk, thnQ
[06:51] <bDerrly> Polygon89, second hard drive first partition?
[06:52] <navarone> POly...you can use install cd and type rescue at boot promt...should be able to reinstall grub then.  You need to know what partition boot is on...ie hda2 or whatever. After rescue mode loads type mkdir /mnt/mydir   then mount /dev/<hd## /mnt/mydir...you can then acces drive and reinstall grub
[06:52] <Polygon89> well i didnt change anything when ubuntu installation was at partiton discs
[06:53] <Polygon89> in the list there, it was in this order: primary, logical (under logical) root and swap
[06:53] <pashaw> Polygon89,   have you tried the recovery option       seems like your grub should be mounting (1,0) not (0,0) anyway
[06:53] <Polygon89> i tried booting up in recovery mode and it didnt boot
[06:53] <pashaw> Polygon89,   maybe just the main kernel entry got whacked
[06:53] <Polygon89> well the strange thing is HOW did it get whacked
[06:53] <Polygon89> i literally installed this yesterday
[06:54] <Polygon89> unless windows has a "kill all linux installations" program
[06:54] <Polygon89> i didnt do anything to it...
[06:54] <navarone> Polygon89, are you still dual booting? And if so, did you install ubuntu on first or second partition? Or on seperate drive?
[06:54] <Polygon89> yes im dual booting, and ubuntu is on a SEPPRATE drive
[06:54] <ilba7r> polygon89 can you state in detail what you did
[06:54] <christopher> How do i add windows to grub?
[06:54] <batman> hey has anyone tried to install the lexmark x1100 series printer/scanner?
[06:54] <Polygon89> ok
[06:54] <pashaw> navarone,   2nd drive   first partition       1st drive is all windows stuff
[06:54] <bDerrly> then the line that starts with root under the Ubuntu kernel title needs to have root  (hd1,0)
[06:54] <apokryphos> !tell christopher about grub
[06:55] <Polygon89> yesterday: i installed ubuntu
[06:55] <Polygon89> installed it, then booted up
[06:55] <navarone> hmmm...so dev should be hdb1?
[06:55] <Polygon89> installed ndiswrapper, then restarted my comp and booted into windows
[06:55] <Polygon89> thats it
[06:55] <navarone> or hdb0
[06:55] <bDerrly> Polygon89, read the last line i wrote
[06:55] <ilba7r> so you have installed window first then ubuntu
[06:55] <bDerrly> it looks like you're trying to boot from root (hd0,0) which would be windows
[06:55] <Polygon89> where is that line suppost to be located?
[06:55] <pashaw> navarone,   for grub it sould be (1,0)    2nd drive  first partition
[06:56] <Polygon89> ilba: yeah
[06:56] <ilba7r> do you know what harddisk or partition you have them on
[06:56] <pashaw> well  hd1
[06:56] <Polygon89> well i think the windows disc is hd1
[06:56] <pashaw> Polygon89,     hard drive count starts at 0
[06:56] <Polygon89> how do i tell which hard drive is what number
[06:57] <navarone> Polygon89, I had similar prob recently after resizing partitons. I went into Windows and accidently set wrong partiton as boot...<s> HAd to use rescue cd to reset boot drive oops
[06:57] <pashaw>  Polygon89   in a master/slave  master is 0  slave is 1
[06:57] <Polygon89> so then my windows disc is 0 and the one with linux is 1
[06:57] <batman> Polygon89, you can always read the volume label :P
[06:57] <pashaw> Polygon89,   yes if your jumpers are set  the way to describe
[06:58] <Polygon89> cause i know i set the second hard drive to be the slave
[06:58] <navarone> Polygon89, did you set bootloader in mbr?
[06:59] <pashaw> Polygon89,  im such a lilo freak       i think grub has hotkey to customize the booting
[06:59] <Polygon89> i left whatever ubuntu displayed at defualt
[06:59] <ilba7r> are you able to log into window now polygon
[06:59] <batman> can someone help guide me on installing a lexmark printer? i looked on the ubuntu forum but i had no luck with the way they said to do it
[06:59] <Polygon89> yes
[06:59] <navarone> Poly...press "e" at grub boot menu to edit boot parameters
[06:59] <Polygon89> im in windows now
[06:59] <pashaw> navarone,   bootloader is working  grub boots hiw windows
[06:59] <ilba7r> so it is not bootloader error
[06:59] <Polygon89> want me to give the error message?
[07:00] <navarone> yes
[07:00] <Polygon89> this is the one when i get when i try to boot into ubuntu (not recovery mode)
[07:00] <decklin> is there anyone here who knows how to use bugzilla?
[07:00] <Polygon89> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[07:01] <shwag> a USB drive is automounting, but I dont have permissions to modify the files on it. How do I fix this ?
[07:01] <Malachi> How do I use "deb"?
[07:01] <Polygon89> when i boot in recover mode it has that error and "VFS: cannot open root device "mapper/Ubuntu-root" or unknown0block(0,0)
[07:01] <Polygon89> **unknown-block
[07:01] <ilba7r> polygong from what you said i think our roo fs is on (hd1,0) right
[07:01] <Polygon89> most likely
[07:01] <Polygon89> cause hd0 is my windows disc
[07:01] <Polygon89> according to computer management in windows
[07:02] <Sh4d0x> polygon89 euhm no i don't think so :) hd0 is your entire disk
[07:02] <ilba7r> do you know how to use a rescue cd
[07:02] <navarone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27709&page=2 <-- this thread has instructions for redoing initrd for specific kernel...that may be prob
[07:02] <Polygon89> i have two hard drives
[07:02] <ilba7r> sh4dox he has two hard disks
[07:02] <Sh4d0x> polygon89 first partition is hda1 (1= 1e partition ,, a = first disk)
[07:02] <Polygon89> i have a knoppix live cd
[07:02] <nanno>  does anyone know how to control the date that applications run within wine? for example, if I want an app to think it is one year ago
[07:03] <navarone> nanno...lol...are you using time limited software? <s>
[07:03] <ilba7r> polygong do you have the ubuntu installation cd
[07:03] <Polygon89> yah
[07:03] <ilba7r> you can use that
[07:03] <ilba7r> soo on boot type rescue will take you into the rescue mode
[07:04] <nanno> navarone, never! ;)
[07:04] <Polygon89> what do i do in there?
[07:04] <ilba7r> follow the screens than it will tell you where is your root system you can mount it then
[07:04] <Sh4d0x> polygon89 how you mean?
[07:04] <Polygon89> will that fix the problem just temporarly?
[07:04] <Polygon89> (sp)
[07:04] <ilba7r> no you have to reinstall grub
[07:04] <Polygon89> i see
[07:04] <ilba7r> after mounting is successfull you will enter a shell
[07:05] <kaffeend> Happy Christmas you weirdos :P
[07:05] <Polygon89> let me read the fourm post that naverone posted, its my exact problem
[07:05] <Polygon89> one sec
[07:05] <ilba7r> ok
[07:05] <Sh4d0x> ilba7r when using 2 disk a partion on 2e disk will look like hdb1 :)
[07:05] <ilba7r> merry christmas to you too happy
[07:05] <shwag> how do I globally change the permissions of a mounted drive ?
[07:05] <navarone> I think Polygon89 needs solid instructions so he can get things done while he no longer has us looking over his shoulder since he is gonna be offline during the process
[07:05] <ilba7r> sorry kaffeend
[07:05] <kaffeend> :)
[07:05] <Polygon89> well
[07:06] <ilba7r> sh4dox sorry do not follow you
[07:06] <Polygon89> i have other computers
[07:06] <pashaw> Polygon89,   reboot, when grub comes up  select the normal Ubuntu kernel,   then change the (hd0,0)    to (hd1,0)   hit enter
[07:06] <Anak1n> Sh40x: it also can be hdc and hdd
[07:06] <Polygon89> how do i change that?
[07:06] <kaffeend> ilba7r thankssyou
[07:06] <pashaw> Polygon89,    oops  after you select the kernel  hit E
[07:06] <navarone> pashaw does he have to hit "e" to edit boot?
[07:06] <Polygon89> ok
[07:06] <navarone> lo
[07:06] <Sh4d0x> ilba7r: k when you have some time, read back ;)
[07:06] <pashaw> navarone,   sorry  typing  slower than thoughts
[07:06] <Polygon89> ill do that now
[07:07] <Polygon89> wish me luck ;)
[07:07] <navarone> pashaw must be all that eggnog
[07:07] <Polygon89> brb
[07:07] <pashaw> Polygon89,   remember after you select the kernel
[07:07] <Polygon89> k
[07:07] <ilba7r> sh3dox i read it and did not understand what you ment :)
[07:07] <pashaw> navarone,   :P
[07:07] <ilba7r> sh4dox its abbreviated
[07:07] <Polygon89> rember what after select the kernel
[07:07] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me how to give myself permission to edit xorg.cinf files please?
[07:07] <Malachi> I keep getting "deb: command not found"
[07:07] <kaffeend> .conf*
[07:08] <pashaw> navarone,  im used to fixing stuff  that has a working backup     so im normally  heavy handed  but most of these have data that can be lost easily
[07:08] <navarone> kafend in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <Polygon89> wait, do i press E when the kernal is selected before i press enter or AFTER i press enter
[07:08] <kaffeend> navarone thanks
[07:08] <nanno> lame answer #536 to a support question: "read the source" :(
[07:08] <Sh4d0x> ilba7r, you sais polygon89 was using 2 disk well a partition on the first disk wil look like hdA1 and a partition on the 2e disk will look like hdB1 :) in case that would have been the problem
[07:09] <ilba7r> shad4dox that is right it can also be specified in grub as hd(0,0) and hd(1,0)
[07:09] <Polygon89> wish me luck... brb
[07:10] <navarone> pasahaw...I am gonna backup entire system to other partition i think. I havea  fat32 32gb partition that i can image both windows and ubuntu systems on comfortably
[07:10] <ilba7r> first is root for first harddisk second is first partition on second harddisk
[07:10] <Sh4d0x> ilba7r indeed :)
[07:10] <ilba7r> :)
[07:10] <pashaw> navarone,   i normally   partimage  onto my server
[07:10] <navarone> pashaw...I only have local drive for storage
[07:11] <ilba7r> take care all and merry christmas
[07:11] <kaffeend> um, I'm probably going backwards here... I should have asked how to run a xorg.conf file
[07:11] <pashaw> navarone, your solution  works fine also    another thing you can do is break the backup into CD/DVD size chunks and burn em off
[07:11] <kaffeend> I'm trying to install my ATi drivers
[07:12] <navarone> kaffend...yuo don't run it...it is read by system to set up input/video/keyboard/monitor etc
[07:12] <kaffeend> navarone - so reboot?
[07:12] <pashaw> !ati
[07:12] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:12] <pashaw> kaffeend,   read that
[07:12] <kaffeend> I did - that's how I ended up here :)
[07:13] <kaffeend> But I'll read it again
[07:13] <Dreamglider> merry xmas from the faroe islands
[07:13] <navarone> pashaw..was considering that. But I resized windows partiton to comfortable size and I have bootable cd with Ghost 4 Linux on it to image drive
[07:13] <pashaw> kaffeend,   good idea  then come back and ask about the part you got stuck
[07:13] <pottoko> does anybody want to play typespeed?
[07:13] <pashaw> navarone,   sweet   cant ask for more then
[07:14] <NewIRC> whats is the wiki mean ?
[07:14] <NewIRC> from where is born ?
[07:15] <navarone> pashaw...I have had no major probs with windows. I gave up Russian hack sites long ago so i am fairly clean install...<s> Will image current setup and not have to worry about reinstalla dn updating
[07:15] <skar> hi, how to increase the screen saver time ?
[07:15] <Anthony> how can I boot from the live CD?
[07:15] <pashaw> NewIRC,    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About
[07:15] <skar> how do i disable the screen saver in breezy?
[07:15] <navarone> Anthony...put cd in drive and reboot...bios must be set to boot from cd first
[07:16] <Anthony> ok, thanks
[07:16] <Polygon89> ok so i booted up, pressed E
[07:16] <NewIRC> thanks pashaw
[07:16] <pashaw> navarone,  i do the same   ghost images of clean windows installs     much faster than startting from scratch
[07:16] <Polygon89> and it gave me a few options
[07:16] <Polygon89> i chose "root" which had (hd1,0) next to it
[07:16] <Polygon89> and it gave me the same error
[07:17] <pashaw> Polygon89,  it already listed (hd1,0) ?   so much for the simple fix
[07:17] <navarone> pashaw...I dl'ed the sp4 package from Microsoft to speed up process. I may reinstall and then do the updates with SP4 package and then image...but I am seriously not in the mood for windows install...lol
[07:18] <pashaw> navarone,  win2000?
[07:18] <Polygon89> yeah right next to "root"
[07:18] <navarone> pashaw...yeah...luckily I have grub install on floppy only...so no disruption after windows reinstalls
[07:18] <salah> Anyone can help me getting my wireless card (Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG) working?
[07:19] <navarone> win2k pro
[07:19] <navarone> win2hpro < -- a gift from co-worker...<s>
[07:19] <pashaw> navarone,    get   both SP4 and the wrap up patch(forget the proper name)  they made as the final win2000
[07:19] <Sh4d0x> ubotu tell salah about wifi
[07:20] <scanwinder> how do i get programs to load when i start an X session? in other distro's ive been able to put the commands in .xinitrc but i dont seem to have that file in ubuntu
[07:20] <navarone> pashaw is that available in downloads as stand alone install?
[07:20] <pashaw> navarone,   yes    ill get you the correct name
[07:20] <navarone> ok ty
[07:21] <navarone> Windows update is a source of constant stress so I would like the files local and one shot deal
[07:22] <navarone> hi intelikey
[07:22] <Polygon89> anyone avaiable to help me with my ubuntu booting? ;)
[07:23] <navarone> Polygon89, still no joy?
[07:23] <Polygon89> no
[07:23] <Polygon89> i pressed "e" while selecting ubuntu
[07:24] <Polygon89> and i selected "root" which had (hd1,0) next to it
[07:24] <Polygon89> and got the kernel panic error again
[07:24] <klaxian> does anyone know if any program supports MTP for music transfer to an MP3 player in Ubuntu?
[07:25] <intelikey> 23 [root$~]  ll /music | grep B ==> drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 4096 Dec 24 04:30 B/ ; file /swap.dir/track-02.iso ==> /swap.dir/track-02.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data '
[07:25] <intelikey>   ' ; mount /music/B/  ==> mount: Not a directory
[07:25] <intelikey> anyone ?
[07:26] <navarone> intelikey, do you havea  music/B/ directory?
[07:26] <pashaw> navarone,  (SP4)> w2ksp4   and  SP4rollup-1
[07:27] <intelikey> see the ll ^  ll=ls -l
[07:27] <navarone> okay pashaw will go check out
[07:27] <Malachi> Why is "deb" not working???
[07:27] <pashaw> navarone,   the rollup-1  is 30mb   SP4  is 130mb
[07:27] <Malachi> What package do I have to get for it to work?
[07:27] <djm62> Malachi: what are you trying to do?
[07:28] <Malachi> deb http://blah blah
[07:28] <Malachi> But I get 'deb: command not found'
[07:28] <pashaw> Malachi,   what do you think deb is?
[07:28] <intelikey> fstab line for that is ==> /swap.dir/track-02.iso /music/B iso9660 loop,user 0 0
[07:28] <djm62> Malachi: no, what are you trying to make happen?
[07:28] <Evil_Whisper> you add that to your sources.list Malachi
[07:28] <intelikey> navarone ^
[07:28] <Malachi> I'm trying to get Cinerella.
[07:29] <Malachi> And at their site, it said.
[07:29] <pashaw> Malachi,   did it say to add   deb http:  blah blah to your sourses.list
[07:29] <djm62> Malachi: and if you do "sudo aptitude install cinerella", does it install it?
[07:29] <Malachi> No...
[07:29] <Malachi> Let me try.
[07:29] <djm62> Malachi: can we get the url for the site, too?
[07:30] <mpma> Who knows where I can find the python html documentation already installed on my system?
[07:30] <pashaw> Polygon89, did you try the recovery   option yet?
[07:30] <djm62> mpma: /usr/share/doc is a treasure trove
[07:31] <Polygon89> you mean booting into recovery mode or booting with the ubuntu install disc
[07:31] <djm62> mpma: typically /usr/share/doc/packagename, but tab complete helps you with the rest
[07:31] <pashaw> Polygon89,   picking the recovery kernel
[07:31] <Malachi> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu
[07:31] <Polygon89> yeah i tried that and it gives me the same error
[07:31] <Polygon89> with a few other lines
[07:31] <burning_bronx> what's the problem gentlemen?
[07:31] <burning_bronx> ~_~
[07:31] <Polygon89> need the few extra lines?
[07:32] <pashaw> Polygon89,   sure  wont hurt
[07:32] <djm62> Malachi: you add that line to the end of the file /etc/apt/sources.list (not clear from that page), and then you can install and update automatically with apt
[07:32] <Malachi> Ah.
[07:32] <Malachi> THanks.
[07:32] <Polygon89> CRC Error    VFS: Cannot open root device "mapper/Ubuntu-root" or unknown-block(0,0)   please append a correct "root=" boot option
[07:33] <Malachi> I'm in the middle of trying that.
[07:33] <Malachi> I think I got it....
[07:33] <Malachi> Phew, thanks a lot.
[07:33] <salah> Sh4d0x: Okey, but I am getting a error when im trying "make". Im getting a error like: grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386//.config: No such file or directory
[07:33] <mpma> djm62: I cd'd into /usr/share/doc/python2.4 and I see a bunch of good things, I just don't see an index that would be like a 'homepage' for all of the documentation
[07:33] <djm62> Malachi: once that line has been added, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude install cinerella
[07:33] <oxez> in what file can I set the default editor? crontab -e opens nano (or pico im not sure), but I'd like to use ViM. Usually it's in /etc/rc.conf but it seems that file doesnt exist in ubuntu.
[07:33] <Malachi> Okay.
[07:33] <djm62> mpma: is this "dive into python"?
[07:33] <shwag> sudo mount -o remount,mode=0777 /media/usbdisk/     ... fails saying  bad mount option but ....   sudo mount -o remount /media/usbdisk/    ... works. ?
[07:34] <navarone> pashaw...I can't dl from ubuntu obviously...and I doubt validation will work in order to dl...that's the problem I have been having with windows update...lol
[07:34] <mpma> no djm62 i found 'dive into' as well though, I was looking for the standard manuals
[07:34] <pottoko__> does anybody want to play typespeed?
[07:35] <pottoko__> head to head?
[07:35] <Qiang> question: how do i create a partition out of existing free space ?  any tools ?
[07:35] <mpma> oxez: set -o vi' or 'set -o emacs' works for me
[07:35] <mpma> oxez and you can add that to .bashrc
[07:35] <oxez> mpma: but there is a line somewhere I'm sure we can replace nano for vim
[07:35] <djm62> mpma: /usr/share/doc/python2.4-doc/html
[07:35] <pashaw> Polygon89,  heres a thread from the boards http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36573&highlight=grub+unable+mount
[07:35] <oxez> mpma: so it's system wise, not just for a user
[07:35] <pottoko__> Qiang fdisk
[07:35] <Polygon89> ill check it out
[07:36] <Malachi> AH!
[07:36] <Qiang> pottoko_: the free space doesn't show up in fdisk..
[07:36] <Malachi> I see....
[07:36] <djm62> mpma: if you use tab-completion you can see the array of python packages...the -doc was clearly a separate pack
[07:36] <djm62> Malachi: all is well?
[07:36] <Malachi> So this should automatically be added to my update manager.
[07:36] <Malachi> The GUI.
[07:36] <oxez> mpma: Thanks, I'll use that one while I'm looking for that file, :0
[07:36] <Malachi> Right?
[07:36] <djm62> Malachi: yes
[07:36] <Malachi> And I can add stuff there too, instead of doing it through the terminal?
[07:37] <djm62> Malachi: yes
[07:37] <Malachi> Thanks.
[07:37] <Malachi> All is well indeed.
[07:37] <djm62> Malachi: (don't ask me how right now)
[07:37] <Malachi> I've got it.
[07:38] <winXperts> Qiang, try qparted
[07:38] <psyke> hi, has anyone here got a NVidia TNT2?
[07:39] <mpma> djm62: thanks for the help, it turns out it wasn't installed by default on my system I had to specifically apt-get python2.4-doc
[07:39] <ossie> hi guys, ive asked this question 100 times, can anyone please tell me where to find the source for i686sm kernel please
[07:40] <pashaw> psyke,   ask your question
[07:40] <kaffeend> hmmm
[07:40] <djm62> ossie: apt-get source doesn't work?
[07:41] <mikey2> Hi can anyone here help an ubuntu newbie...Is anyone here familliar with Vmware's browser appliance, which runs ubuntu?
[07:41] <Qiang> winXperts, qtparted.. thanks
[07:41] <cron0> When was Azureus removed from the repositories?
[07:41] <djm62> ossie: do you really need the source, or just the kernel headers (to compile modules for instance)?
[07:41] <ossie> what would i apt-get , i dont know the name of the package
[07:41] <ossie> im not sure if the headers would suffice
[07:41] <apokryphos> cron0: I don't think it was ever in Multiverse
[07:41] <kaffeend> I have lost X after reconfiguring my Input Devices in xorg.conf
[07:41] <mpma> djm62: looking at file:///usr/share/doc/python2.4-doc/html/index.html now, and I'm very happy :-) Especially for the Library reference part - do you think that the same docs are browsable via man pages?
[07:41] <cron0> hmmmm, I had it installed
[07:42] <apokryphos> cron0: perhaps from the old hoary-extras
[07:42] <monzie> what packages do i need to install do write docs for GNOME
[07:42] <cron0> ahh that's it
[07:42] <ossie> can i add a driver to the headers, last time i did it to the source, maybe able to do it to the headers
[07:42] <monzie> i want DocBook and Scrollkeeper
[07:42] <cron0> apokryphos: ANy suggestions for a replacement?
[07:42] <apokryphos> monzie: they accept text submissions, I'm sure :)
[07:42] <shwag> sudo mount -o remount,mode=0777 /media/usbdisk/     ... fails saying  bad mount option but ....   sudo mount -o remount /media/usbdisk/    ... works. ?
[07:42] <djm62> ossie: yeah, adding a driver you should be able to just use headers
[07:42] <ossie> but im not sure, i followed a tutorail last time and was no probs, on the i386 source
[07:42] <apokryphos> cron0: I don't use Azureus, but the tar from their site works fine. I use Ktorrent.
[07:42] <ossie> ok cheers , ill try it with the headers
[07:42] <kaffeend> can someone please help me restore X to what it was before I changed xorg.conf?
[07:43] <pashaw> kaffeend,   restore the backup you made of your xorg.conf  before your edit job
[07:43] <djm62> kaffeend: what did you change it with?
[07:43] <monzie> they want it in DocBook XML format apokryphos
[07:43] <psyke> pashaw: I suspect there's a problem with Xorg (or at least a TNT card using either vesa, nv or nvidia). All 2D operations are very sluggish. In KDE, highlighting the desktop with the mouse causes the CPU to max out, maximizing hidden apps is slow and you can see the buttons and graphics being redrawn slowly, konsole scrolling is very slow, and hiding the kicker panel is very slow. I've tried SUSE 10.0 and Knoppix, and KDE has absolutely no 2D slowness like in Ub
[07:43] <djm62> kaffeend: not being nosy, some editors make an automatic backup
[07:43] <monzie> that's what they say atleast
[07:43] <kaffeend> djm62 I changed my mouse settings
[07:43] <mikey2> I am trying to figure out how to set up ssh port forwarding with ubuntu.
[07:43] <apokryphos> monzie: they use Docbook, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind putting up the markup for you.
[07:43] <psyke> 3D performance is find with the nvidia module, it's only 2D performance that seems to suffer
[07:43] <apokryphos> monzie: anyhow, I recommend Quanta+ for Docbook. There's a good tutorial on some of the stuff around if I can find it...
[07:44] <kaffeend> djm62 I also made a xorg.conf.bak
[07:44] <monzie> ohh.. thanks apokryphos
[07:44] <ossie> sweet the headers work :)
[07:44] <apokryphos> monzie: there's not much point learning docbook though if you're just writing an article, I'd say (unless you want to join the team or something). There's people who can already do the markup very quickly :)
[07:44] <pashaw> psyke,  if your more familiar with kde  witch uses a different x server  i believe install KDE
[07:45] <djm62> kaffeend: in that case mv xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:45] <navarone> kaffend what mouse probs are you having?
[07:45] <Polygon89> pashaw: will the fixes in that fourm post work for me? it looks like they are upgrading from a different ubuntu version..
[07:45] <djm62> kaffeend: and /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:45] <ossie> is it a bird is it a plane , no its ossie and his speed of light ubuntu box, now running HT :)
[07:45] <monzie> isnt quanta for writing html apokryphos ?
[07:45] <kaffeend> djm62 you lost me :s
[07:45] <djm62> ossie: cool, you got the right headers files
[07:45] <monzie> can it do XML too?
[07:45] <psyke> pashaw: it uses Xorg, don't be silly :)
[07:45] <ossie> yes , nice 1
[07:45] <apokryphos> monzie: it's much more than that :)
[07:46] <arbir> hello
[07:46] <apokryphos> monzie: and yup, it's very good for XML
[07:46] <monzie> ohh..
[07:46] <navarone> kaffeend what probs you have with mouse?
[07:46] <quirky> Does anyone know how I can check what causes my laptop to completely hang when I the network starts?
[07:47] <kaffeend> navarone sorry I didn't see your post til now :)
[07:47] <monzie> but i dont need to write in XML.. dont i?
[07:47] <djm62> kaffeend: mv is the move command.  mv xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf replaces the new xorg.conf with the backup you made
[07:47] <dfgas> hmmm, how quickly can i break my system
[07:47] <kaffeend> navarone actually no probs - mx1000 just trying to activate some functionality
[07:47] <apokryphos> monzie: why is it you want to write docbook?
[07:47] <djm62> kaffeend: then you just need to restart X... /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:48] <monzie> cause the docs say so.. though i dont know any of it yet..
[07:48] <kaffeend> djm62 ok gotcha - thanks
[07:48] <apokryphos> monzie: what are you trying to write, though?
[07:48] <djm62> kaffeend: you'll need to put sudo before those commands, but if you've made a back-up, you have nothing to worry about
[07:49] <monzie> doing work on gparted now
[07:49] <Polygon89> can someone help me getting my ubuntu to boot up?
[07:49] <Polygon89> i think pashaw dissapeared
[07:49] <arbir> what is the function of the deb-src line in the sources.list file ? does it mean that when i update my machine, the sources would also be downloaded ?
[07:49] <apokryphos> monzie: and you want to write some more documentation for it?
[07:49] <monzie> it has currenlty no docs and its frontend needs some imp too, apokryphos
[07:49] <djm62> arbir: no, it refers to source code
[07:49] <monzie> yes, i just read http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/handbook/gdp-handbook/ar01s02.html
[07:50] <shwag> how do I remount a usb drive so that I can write to it ?
[07:50] <monzie> thats where they are crying about docbook, apokryphos
[07:50] <djm62> shwag: mount -o remount,rw,user /mount/point
[07:50] <apokryphos> monzie: ok, so you're looking to write a handbook for Gparted, then?
[07:50] <kaffeend> ok... back soon maybe ;)
[07:50] <pashaw> Polygon89,   lol  im trying to find you a good link smarta@@
[07:50] <apokryphos> (more gnome-centric than ubuntu-centric)
[07:50] <Polygon89> oh sorry
[07:50] <dfgas> how do i install a .deb package?
[07:50] <Polygon89> i was looking through that post
[07:50] <apokryphos> !deb
[07:50] <arbir> test
[07:50] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:51] <sudhir> which repo should I add to install mplayer /
[07:51] <monzie> where do i submit it? i has to end up in the cvs .. but how?
[07:51] <monzie> that's what i dont know yet apokryphos
[07:51] <Polygon89> do you think the stuff in that post would apply to me?
[07:51] <paulproteus|lapt> sudhir: multiverse.
[07:51] <djm62> dfgas: but best to use apt or synaptic to search for it in repositories and download and install automatically
[07:51] <apokryphos> monzie: I'm not 100% sure of what it's like in gnome documentation world, but in KDE they're always glad to get text submissions. There's several people on the doc team that can do all markup in seconds -- it's the content that they're interested in, though.
[07:51] <arbir> if i take that line off will it affect my updates ?
[07:51] <Fujoor> can anyone please name a simple picture viewer for ubuntu? something similiar to acdsee or irfanview on windows? not too bloated
[07:51] <arbir> if i take that line off will it affect my updates ? @ djm62
[07:52] <djm62> arbir: no, you just won't be able to get source code automatically for you packages
[07:52] <sudhir> I have removed all "#" in my repo and did apt-get update
[07:52] <apokryphos> monzie: I presume it's the same in the world of gnome docs. Best way to go about it is to just ask them -- send a post to them on the mailing list, asking if someone would be willing to do the markup if you give them a text submission.
[07:52] <sproingie> Fujoor: konqueror's got one built in
[07:52] <monzie> do they get credit for what they do apokryphos ?
[07:52] <sudhir> still it says can not find mplayer-386
[07:52] <djm62> Fujoor: I don't know the windows ones, but F-spot is pretty nice
[07:52] <arbir> djm62: well .. i dont think i really need source code on this box as i dont compile from source
[07:52] <sproingie> djm62: f-spot requires mono.  i wouldn't call that small
[07:52] <apokryphos> monzie: in KDE for example it's like this: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdetoys/kteatime/index.html
[07:53] <djm62> arbir: there should be no disadvantage to having the deb-src line there...is there an underlying problem?
[07:53] <Fujoor> djm62: sounds good, is it light?
[07:53] <apokryphos> monzie: "Developer" or "Author" (usually) is the person who sent the text submission. "Reviewer" is the person who did the markup.
[07:53] <arbir> well as long as it does not download the source along with the binary,, i am fine with that line there in my file... i dont have spare hard disk space @ djm62
[07:53] <Fujoor> sprongie: i dont have konguqeror, i use xfce4
[07:53] <apokryphos> I'm sure it'd be the same. The copyright remains yours (though I presume all GNOME documentation is published under GPL, too)
[07:53] <skon> How do I edit or just erase the RSA hosts file for SSH ??
[07:53] <djm62> Fujoor: as sproingie says, requires mono, but I thought that was part of ubuntu anyway
[07:54] <Eleaf> MONO
[07:54] <Fujoor> so any other alternatives?
[07:54] <djm62> arbir: no it doesn't download the source every time you install a package...the only disk space you'd save would be about 20 bytes by not storing that line ;)
[07:55] <arbir> LOL @ djm62
[07:55] <pashaw> Polygon89,   some light reading   http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/grub.htm#install
[07:55] <shwag> djm62, not working...its an ext3 drive.  i dont have the user permissions.
[07:55] <arbir> is there a place where i can get a list of standard repositories ? @ djm62
[07:55] <djm62> shwag: are you using sudo?
[07:56] <Polygon89> k thanks
[07:56] <monzie> okay, apokryphos
[07:56] <shwag> djm62, yes
[07:56] <telecide> #spain
[07:56] <djm62> arbir: the standard ones are in /etc/apt/sources.list (uncomment the universe/multiverse lines)
[07:56] <apokryphos> monzie: no problem. I'm sure documentation for gparted would be really appreciated =)
[07:57] <pashaw> Polygon89,  the link i gave you earlier  did mention   --reinstalling the kernel    id try that also
[07:57] <djm62> Fujoor: does gtk count as lightweight for you?
[07:57] <jhenn> if i want to install opera for powerpc ubuntu all they have are debian packages which one should i use or any at all?
[07:57] <arbir> are those the only two which are not officially supported by Ubuntu ? @ djm62
[07:57] <shwag>  how do I temporaryily force a drive to 777 just for one mount so that I can edit the files without overwritting all the existing permissions.
[07:58] <Polygon89> fun
[07:58] <mikey2> hi everyone  -- can anyone help a newbie to ubuntu?
[07:58] <thegladiator> hi
[07:58] <kakei> mikey2 what u need
[07:58] <z0rz> Anyone use synergy?
[07:58] <shwag> mikey2, you just used up your ones question.
[07:58] <odat> hi everyone
[07:58] <thegladiator> is there any way to change the colors of a control theme in gnome ?
[07:58] <pashaw> Polygon89,   there was a new kernel image last few days   if you installed that update and it went bad   there could be your problem
[07:58] <djm62> arbir: to be honest, I don't know...nor would I know where to go for official support if I needed it ;)  the stuff in that file will get you many thousands of packages
[07:59] <djm62> kaffeend: did your backup work?
[07:59] <rockinchado> so i'm trying to install a rt2500 wireless card and now i have it to where modprobe ra0 doesn't give me anything which is good think but it still doesn't show up in iwconfig            anyone help?
[07:59] <pashaw> Polygon89,   since your grub/windows works id start there   reinstalling the kernel
[07:59] <thegladiator> like i am using this theme alled VistaRevisited for controls , but the color of inactive text is white . hence the color is same as the background
[07:59] <Polygon89> how recent was it released?
[07:59] <kaffeend> djm62 nope
[07:59] <arbir> djm62: i was looking for mysql 5.0 in particular . and right now an apt-get -s install mysql-server tells me that it would install mysql 4.x
[07:59] <odat> today I became strictly linux  and entirely windows free after month of linux use   wooooohoooooo
[07:59] <arbir> djm62:  so i was looking into backports
[08:00] <djm62> arbir: ah
[08:00] <mikey2> I have the Vmware browser appliance -- I would like to be able to set up ssh port forwarding if it's possible
[08:00] <monzie> i would like to do my bit for the community apokryphos , as i am sure you would too
[08:00] <apokryphos> always good to see :)
[08:00] <pashaw> Polygon89,  2-3days tops   its in my available updates but havent applied it    as im running fine for now
[08:00] <kaffeend> djm62 I don't suppose Ubuntu has "System Restore"?
[08:00] <shwag> how do I mount a samba volume on the command line ?
[08:00] <djm62> arbir: you can add backports, but they're unsupported (and possibly unsupportable)
[08:00] <djm62> kaffeend: what errors did you get?
[08:01] <kaffeend> no such file exists
[08:01] <djm62> kaffeend: :(
[08:01] <kaffeend> aye
[08:01] <Polygon89> ok, ill try reinstalling the kernel
[08:01] <Polygon89> "mount /dev/hda7 /mnt/linux
[08:01] <Polygon89> chroot /mnt/linux /bin/bash
[08:01] <Polygon89> mount -t proc /proc /proc
[08:01] <Polygon89> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.11-1-386
[08:01] <Polygon89> is that what i type?
[08:01] <Polygon89> it was in the fourm post you showed me first
[08:01] <arbir> djm62:  i need mysql 5 somehow. is there an apt-get way of installing it ?
[08:01] <kaffeend> djm62 so I tried to move the .bak that was made by the ati installer
[08:02] <arbir> djm62: or i just run it off the binary which i get at the mysql site ?
[08:02] <pashaw> psyke,   sorry  i know i worded that wrong,   there was another person with your same problem and they mentioned  giving kde install a shot
[08:02] <kaffeend> djm62 but that didn't work either
[08:02] <djm62> kaffeend: my fault I guess... in that mv command you were meant to replace xorg.conf.bak with /whatever/the/path/to/xorg.conf.bak is
[08:02] <odat> kaffeend, did you search in synaptic?
[08:02] <pashaw> psyke,    how old is your system?
[08:02] <shwag> how do i find out what package contains the smbmount command ?
[08:02] <kaffeend> djm62 ah... no worries then :)
[08:02] <djm62> kaffeend: what you can do is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to restore the default settings
[08:02] <bobbyd> hi
[08:03] <HIghoS> shwag: apt-cache search smbmount
[08:03] <kaffeend> odat what for?
[08:03] <bobbyd> when i try to stop my software raid array ti says it's in use? any ideas why?
[08:03] <bobbyd> I unmounted it...
[08:03] <djm62> arbir: backports are hard to support, but if you can find one, you are free to use it
[08:03] <pashaw> Polygon89,    dont flood  :(    the new kernel   is  2.6.12-10-386
[08:03] <apokryphos> Sh4d0x: smbf
[08:03] <kaffeend> djm62 ok I'll do that
[08:03] <MS|a> can i resize windows partition to make free space for ubuntu with the ubuntu installer?
[08:03] <apokryphos> er
[08:03] <apokryphos> shwag: smbf
[08:03] <odat> kaffeend, sorry it was arbir i meant to say that too lol
[08:03] <Polygon89> sorry, im new to irc and i didnt know paste would do that ;)
[08:03] <kaffeend> djm62 beats reinstalling
[08:03] <apokryphos> *smbfs
[08:03] <apokryphos> gah
[08:03] <HIghoS> apokryphos: Giving him the answer didn't answer his question, silly :)
[08:03] <kaffeend> odat np
[08:03] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to help mounting an ntfs drive in ubuntu the directions on ubuntuguide.org didn't work and the wiki is unclear
[08:04] <z0rz> Anyone know how to fix this error in synergy: http://pastebin.com/477763
[08:04] <Polygon89> so i boot from ubuntu live cd and install that?
[08:04] <odat> has anyone ever used cedega?
[08:04] <z0rz> ?
[08:04] <pashaw> Polygon89,   the fix  was  2.6.12-10.25
[08:04] <apokryphos> shwag: best way is to always use apt-file (you can install it from apt-get) or just package.subuntu.com
[08:05] <pashaw> Polygon89,    read the grub thing first  you might find something we missed
[08:05] <djm62> arbir: if you're the admin, you might be better finding some properly supported way
[08:05] <spike> hi there
[08:05] <spike> mirrors went on holiday?
[08:05] <apokryphos> nope
[08:05] <spike> I can't install stuff, neither finish to apt-get update
[08:06] <arbir> no djm62 i am not the admin. i have another machine in the house which serves as a mysql server for my development
[08:06] <apokryphos> spike: what are the errors specifically? Can you pastebin them?
[08:06] <arbir> djm62:  i just practice and learn and do all my development with this server
[08:07] <spike> I guess mine are... security and backports succeede, the .locality.archive.ubuntu... fails
[08:07] <z0rz> Anyone?
[08:07] <Polygon89> soim confused, what exactly am i looking for in that grub article?
[08:08] <Polygon89> im**
[08:08] <djm62> arbir: well, you're well-enough informed to decide for yourself...I'm no dev :)
[08:08] <Tuntis> Erm, hi
[08:08] <Tuntis> I've got a geforce here in my desk
[08:08] <Tuntis> I've got Radeon drivers installed in ubuntu...
[08:08] <Tuntis> So what should I do?
[08:09] <Eleaf> Tuntis, is it in your desk or on your desk?
[08:09] <Tuntis> on
[08:09] <Eleaf> you said in...
[08:09] <Eleaf> lol.
[08:09] <Tuntis> my mistake :P
[08:09] <Eleaf> MIckMcMack
[08:09] <Eleaf> MickMcMack,
[08:09] <Eleaf> Tuntis, lol
[08:09] <Eleaf> Tuntis, does it not work?
[08:09] <arbir> djm62: my question was that is there any way i can install mysql thru apt-get. :-).. well let me figure this out myself... if i break the system.. i can always re-install it
[08:09] <arbir> thanks a lot djm62
[08:09] <Tuntis> Erm, erm...
[08:10] <Tuntis> Haven't installed it yet
[08:10] <Tuntis> the thing I'd like to do is get rid of the radeon drivers
[08:10] <MS|a> hi there. can i resize windows partition to make free space for ubuntu with the ubuntu installer?
[08:10] <llukax> :)
[08:10] <Eleaf> Tuntis, oh, can you uninstall them with apt-get ?
[08:10] <djm62> arbir: if it's a situation where you can afford to break the system, try to find backports
[08:10] <Tuntis> sure, I guess so but what about the xconfig?
[08:10] <MickMcMack> ?
[08:10] <Eleaf> Tuntis, I don't think it will be too catostrophic if they are still installed
[08:10] <Tuntis> Would I need to copy the backups back to the original file?
[08:11] <llukax> i finally figured out how to install my usb midi
[08:11] <llukax> the guy who programmed it didnt list the library he used
[08:11] <Tuntis> Well, anyways, I'll come scream back later if it doesn't work :P
[08:11] <kaffeend> what is a pci bus identifier?
[08:11] <sudhir> which is command to see loaded module
[08:11] <llukax> so i had to find it from the errors in the code
[08:11] <arbir> LOL @ djm62
[08:11] <Eleaf> Tuntis
[08:11] <sudhir> I tried lsprob but not working
[08:12] <arbir> b.t.w djm......there is breezy universe, breezy multiverse... is there also a breezy-security for both multiverse and universe ?
[08:12] <arbir> b.t.w djm62 ......there is breezy universe, breezy multiverse... is there also a breezy-security for both multiverse and universe ?
[08:12] <kaffeend> djm62 I have no idea what to enter for all the prompts when reconfiguring X
[08:12] <pashaw> sudhir,   lsmod
[08:12] <djm62> arbir: I /think/ that security covers any packages
[08:13] <kaffeend> djm62 I didn't realize I was going to have to manually reconfigure the system :/
[08:13] <arbir> what does that mean djm62 ?
[08:13] <djm62> kaffeend: I thought it would probe things...did you have to do that the first time as well
[08:14] <kaffeend> djm62 not on install
[08:14] <djm62> arbir: any security updates get put on that server, with higher version numbers
[08:14] <kaffeend> djm62 it asked me if my card was a ati 6800 - that's good
[08:15] <kaffeend> djm62 I just have no clue as to the bus identifier
[08:15] <llukax> hey does anyone know if there are better drivers for a mac mini's graphics card?
[08:15] <djm62> kaffeend: WOW- that is not a friendly question
[08:15] <djm62> kaffeend: is it an AGP card?
[08:15] <arbir> so that means i can all breezy-security for both multiverse and universe ? @ djm62
[08:15] <kaffeend> djm62 yep
[08:16] <mjr> kaffeend, the default radeon driver is pretty much what you get
[08:17] <kaffeend> mjr - that default doesn't let me see anything in 3d
[08:17] <pashaw> kaffeend,   you need the bus identifier?
[08:17] <djm62> arbir: yes I think so
[08:17] <kaffeend> pashaw yeah
[08:17] <sudhir> how to activate infrared  ?
[08:17] <mjr> kaffeend, well, it should. That is, unless the memory is too low for your resolution. See the log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for information on why DRI is not enabled.
[08:17] <christmas-tree-> merry christmas , i have a question, i have windowsxp and ubuntu on my pc. i use ubuntu as boot
[08:17] <christmas-tree-> now when i am on windowsxp i see i have lots of virueses spywares and i want to re-install windowsxp
[08:17] <christmas-tree-> i know if i reinstall windowsxp the windows will boot and it will remove the ubuntu
[08:17] <christmas-tree-> boot loader, how can i make this will not happen ?
[08:17] <sudhir> pashaw : thanks
[08:17] <pashaw> kaffeend,    type  lspci   find your card  its the last 3 octecs
[08:18] <arbir> thanks djm62 . let me do that
[08:18] <kaffeend> pashaw um... ok... where should I type that exactly?
[08:18] <pashaw> kaffeend,  1 sec  you have no video?
[08:19] <kaffeend> pashaw sorry?
[08:19] <kaffeend> pashaw I have a card
[08:19] <pashaw> kaffeend,   can you read stuff on the monitor
[08:19] <kakei> any one knows how to open a VCD on ubuntu?
[08:19] <christmas-tree-> hello
[08:19] <kaffeend> pashaw I have x when I installed
[08:19] <christmas-tree-> any help for me
[08:19] <kaffeend> had*
[08:19] <sudhir> kakei : use vlc player :)
[08:19] <pashaw> kaffeend,    ok  so   what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:20] <kaffeend> pashaw - I killed xorg.conf and am trying to restore my x desktop to default
[08:20] <christmas-tree-> any help for me
[08:20] <christmas-tree-> any help for me
[08:20] <kaffeend> !ask
[08:20] <pashaw> kaffeend,   what did you edit?
[08:21] <pashaw> kaffeend,    which area   and whats the error now
[08:21] <pashaw> !anybody
[08:21] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:21] <kakei> sudhir i need any codec?
[08:21] <kaffeend> pashaw I edited xorg.conf mouse settings, ati settings and alsa
[08:21] <djm62> christmas-tree-: please, be polite, have some patience...in case you didn't know, it's the holiday season
[08:21] <paal> how do i install gtkam from terminal? ive tried sudo apt-get install gtkam but i cant find it..
[08:21] <christmas-tree-> http://pastebin.com/477787
[08:21] <christmas-tree-> this is my question
[08:22] <cthulhu> hi
[08:22] <sudhir> christmas : use boootable disk
[08:22] <kaffeend> hi
[08:22] <pashaw> kaffeend,    OMG all at once  :(    ok  lets start with the ati stuff     what do you remember changing/adding
[08:22] <christmas-tree-> how which
[08:22] <djm62> :( why do people ask questions about windows bugs in #ubuntu
[08:22] <andrea_> hardware application layer:   stop notebook!!!!!!!
[08:22] <cthulhu> how can i get IR support for an AvernMedia TV card
[08:23] <Pegasos989> How do I force close for a freezed windows game install in wine
[08:23] <pashaw> djm62,    because if your good with Linux its assumed your a windows genius first
[08:23] <kaffeend> pashaw I installed the drivers - it wrote changes to xorg.conf itself
[08:23] <Pegasos989> nevermind, it finally closed
[08:23] <sudhir> christmas : or after installing xp use ubuntu cd rescue mode
[08:23] <djm62> pashaw: some of us are neither windows users nor geniuses of either stripe ;)
[08:23] <pashaw> kaffeend,    what error   does it spit out when it crashes
[08:24] <kaffeend> pashaw :O
[08:24] <kaffeend> ??
[08:24] <christmas-tree-> ok after install xp ubuntu cd rescue mode what to do there
[08:25] <pashaw> kaffeend,  ok you can get it to boot, right?
[08:25] <kaffeend> pashaw unfortunately I don't have 2 pcs to see
[08:25] <odat> anyone know how to get a multi function lexmark printer working
[08:25] <kaffeend> pashaw - no
[08:25] <odat> isn't there a commercial piece of linux software for this or something
[08:25] <pashaw> kaffeend,    it doesnt boot  at all?
[08:25] <christmas-tree-> ok after install xp ubuntu cd rescue mode what to do there
[08:25] <cthulhu> anyone can help me getting IR support??
[08:25] <kaffeend> pashaw I can get it to boot in safe mode
[08:26] <kaffeend> recovery mode*
[08:26] <pashaw> kaffeend, good    do you get a text login prompt
[08:26] <kaffeend> yep
[08:26] <christmas-tree-> sudhir
[08:26] <christmas-tree-> are you there
[08:26] <pashaw> kaffeend,   excellent    then from there   you can login    then type  sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and try some other settings
[08:27] <christmas-tree-> ok after install xp ubuntu cd rescue mode what to do there
[08:27] <kaffeend> pashaw - I know, but the settings I don't know how to configure
[08:27] <sudhir> christmas : in terminal type dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/C/grub bs=512 count=1
[08:27] <kaffeend> to what values etc
[08:27] <sudhir> and save to a file
[08:27] <sudhir> and in win xp add it in boot.ini
[08:27] <pashaw> kaffeend,   we will get you started
[08:28] <christmas-tree-> but how can i make the ubuntu will start boot
[08:28] <christmas-tree-> not windows
[08:28] <kaffeend> pashaw - I'm dual-booting here :(
[08:28] <pashaw> kaffeend,  you broke it  now  we can get it fix it
[08:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know how to get the libvisual's for amarok's visualizations ?
[08:29] <kaffeend> pashaw - yes I did break it - and I should suffer by reinstalling again
[08:29] <kaffeend> no need to waste your time as well
[08:29] <kakei> what i need to play VCD's on ubuntu?
[08:29] <pashaw> kaffeend,   you want to try this or not?
[08:30] <kaffeend> pashaw - will it involve me toggling between windows and ubuntu?
[08:30] <pashaw> kaffeend,  only  way i see it happening
[08:30] <sudhir> christmas : if /dev/hda is ur location of /boot
[08:30] <kaffeend> pashaw - because it might be quicker to reinstall
[08:31] <sudhir> then u can type # grub-install /dev/hda
[08:31] <pashaw> kaffeend,  ok  1 tip,   make a backup copy of your original /etc/X11/xorg.conf  before addding the ati stuff
[08:31] <Pegasos989> How do I run a .bin file? Default option is terminal, but nothing happens (terminal pops up with the starting line being in my home folder, but nothing happens in it)
[08:31] <pashaw> kaffeend,    then its way easy to fix it again
[08:31] <kaffeend> pashaw I thought I had
[08:31] <kaffeend> I'm gonna try something - back soonish
[08:31] <pashaw> kaffeend,  did it spit out where it placed it
[08:32] <Whistler> hello
[08:32] <burning_bronx> I hate x-mas movies
[08:32] <burning_bronx> >.>
[08:32] <Whistler> i just bought gembird usb bluetooth adapter. How can i get it to work?
[08:33] <ppd> hi. does anyone here know how to set up a lide 25 scanner?
[08:36] <harolox> alguem do Brasil
[08:37] <harolox> como isntalar o amsn no ubunto , se alguem souber , por favor diga
[08:37] <pashaw> !spanish
[08:37] <ubotu> spanish is probably Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[08:37] <beardousa> "amsn"?
[08:37] <harolox> yes
[08:38] <harolox> pode me ajudar??
[08:38] <ElitePete> anyone here use Damn Small Linux ?
[08:38] <kakei> hi,i m having troubles playing VCD's when i play then with xine they are SLOW
[08:39] <ElitePete> kakei, is dma on?
[08:39] <puptentacle> Mahangu, you around?
[08:39] <kakei> where can i check that ElitePete
[08:40] <ElitePete> kakei, one second
[08:40] <Whistler> where boot script is located?
[08:41] <Whistler> i wanna add some commands to be done when my pc is booted up
[08:41] <ElitePete> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb
[08:41] <ElitePete> and /hda/
[08:41] <kakei> ElitePete hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb ?
[08:41] <ElitePete> yes, with "sudo"
[08:41] <kakei> /dev/hdb:
[08:41] <kakei>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:41] <kakei>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[08:41] <ElitePete> also /dev/hda/
[08:41] <beardousa> harolox: nao gostas do Gaim?
[08:41] <lwl> /close
[08:42] <musashiden> hi everyone. can anyone tell me how to install qt3 3.0.5? i cant seem to find it anywhere
[08:42] <Whistler> where boot script is located?
[08:42] <Whistler> i wanna add some commands to be done when my pc is booted up
[08:42] <kakei> ElitePete it's running?
[08:42] <Pegasos989> How do I run a .bin file? Default option is terminal, but nothing happens (terminal pops up with the starting line being in my home folder, but nothing happens in it)
[08:43] <Begasus> a .bin file is a image file (afaik)
[08:43] <Whistler> can anybody answer me?
[08:43] <ElitePete> kakei, should be, try watching vcd now
[08:43] <Whistler> i wanna add some commands to be done when my pc is booted up
[08:43] <trampolando> hello... can someone help me? I Modified /etc/hosts.... and something is wrong.... when i try to edit again tat file using sudo the console tells me  unable to lookup casa via gethostbyname()... what can i do to edit this file with root privileges? thanks a lot
[08:43] <Whistler> what should i do ?
[08:44] <kakei> keep Slow ElitePete
[08:44] <Pegasos989> !bin
[08:44] <ubotu> Pegasos989: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:44] <ElitePete> kakei, did you do dev/hda/ and dev/hdb/ ?
[08:44] <Pegasos989> ! .bin
[08:44] <ubotu> Pegasos989: I give up, what is it?
[08:44] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~/Desktop$ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[08:44] <kakei> /dev/hda: No such file or directory
[08:45] <ElitePete> kakei, sorry then i donot know. i am not an expert
[08:45] <kakei> ic
[08:45] <yatesy> using SCSI? :P
[08:45] <silverton> using SATA?
[08:45] <yatesy> use mount and find out what the device is.....
[08:46] <silverton> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:46] <pashaw> kakei,   type mount in a terminal   it will tell you your hda hdb  etc
[08:46] <pashaw> kakei,   or your sda  sdb
[08:47] <nemik> has anyone gotten horizontal scrolling to work on a microsoft intellimouse explorer? the 4.0 version?
[08:47] <kakei> http://pastebin.com/477820
[08:48] <pashaw> kakei,    type sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdb    does it say dma on or off
[08:48] <Pegasos989> !mounting
[08:48] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Pegasos989
[08:48] <Pegasos989> !mount
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:48] <beardousa> nemik, you're sure that's a question for #ubuntu?
[08:48] <ElitePete> kakei, have you tried hdb1
[08:48] <ElitePete> ?
[08:48] <kakei> /dev/hdb:
[08:48] <kakei>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[08:48] <kakei> yes its on too
[08:48] <Ubunti_Ki> Hello everybody, merry christmas
[08:48] <silverton> "why is it on hdb?!" and then I thought, maybe it's the slave drive, and they have a dual-boot setup
[08:48] <nemik> beardousa: where else would I ask it? i am running ubuntu....
[08:49] <silverton> but even then, wouldn't linux call it hda?
[08:49] <silverton> nemik, try #linux
[08:49] <nemik> ok, i'll give it a shot. thanks
[08:49] <Pegasos989> Where do I find instructios on mounting a .bin ? Ubotu doesn't know words bib, .bin, mounting and mount only gives info on hard drives
[08:50] <ElitePete> i have access to a really fast server, what do you guys think i should run ?
[08:50] <pashaw> ElitePete,   nethack
[08:50] <silverton> mount -t iso9660 /where/file/is /where/its/being/mounted -o loop
[08:50] <ElitePete> pashaw, and whats that?
[08:50] <pashaw> ElitePete,   look it up
[08:50] <Ubunti_Ki> I have a slight weird problem here with Ubuntu desktop. Just installed Ubuntu and somehow I have a Icon in my desktop that I cannot remove, its called "hda1"    HOW DO I REMOVE IT???
[08:51] <Pegasos989> thanks, silverperton
[08:51] <ElitePete> pashaw, lmfao
[08:51] <mrkoje> Ubunti_Ki,  thats a mounted drive
[08:51] <Jochen2> Hi people!
[08:51] <pashaw> ElitePete,   :P
[08:51] <Jochen2> Question, do you know the place where the modules are being automatically loaded?
[08:52] <ElitePete> pashaw, but seriously, what would be cool to run?
[08:52] <pashaw> Jochen2,    in the kernel  next question
[08:52] <Jochen2> On fedora, or Suse it was always a single modules.autoload files
[08:52] <Ubunti_Ki> mrkoje, yes It obviusly is. But I dont have that in my other Ubuntu machine?
[08:52] <Jochen2> NO, I mean, the order and the modules which you or the system wants to load
[08:52] <mrkoje> Ubunti_Ki, check fstab to see if it is auto mounting that drive
[08:52] <pashaw> ElitePete,  not a clue  what you should
[08:52] <djm62> Jochen2: /etc/modules or similar
[08:52] <ElitePete> pashaw, :-(
[08:52] <Ubunti_Ki> ok mrkoje
[08:53] <Jochen2> hmmm....
[08:53] <Jochen2> The kernel loads modules like capability, commoncap....
[08:53] <Jochen2> They are all not listed in the /etc/modules
[08:54] <Ubunti_Ki> mrkoje, Yes it is in my fstab table....but should I remove it?
[08:55] <djm62> Jochen2: hang on, I need to open up a terminal window and do some tab completion
[08:55] <Jochen2> okay...
[08:55] <malakhi> Ubunti_Ki, is this a dual boot system? What is on that partition?
[08:55] <Pegasos989> silverton, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[08:55] <Pegasos989>        missing codepage or other error"... Should it really be ISO9660 even when trying to mount .bin?
[08:56] <Delvien> Anyone have any battery saving hacks for ubuntu?
[08:56] <silverton> try dropping the -t iso9660
[08:56] <Ubunti_Ki> malakhi, yes this a dualboot machine as my other machine. But but...theres XP, so is in the other machine.
[08:56] <beardousa> has anyone added splashscreens to grub?  I just installed the grub-splashscreens package, and I don't know what to do next
[08:57] <djm62> Jochen2: /etc/modprobe.d and /etc/modutils both have stuff pertaining to autoloading (I've never heard of the specific modules you mentioned)
[08:57] <malakhi> Ubunti_Ki, if you don't want your windows partition to mount on boot, then go ahead and comment out that line (put a # at the beginning of the line)
[08:57] <Jochen2> then type lsmod
[08:57] <beardousa> It would be really nice to have a graphic bootloader for use on the projector, because it won't display text mode
[08:57] <ardchoille> Merry Christmas everyone :)
[08:57] <Jochen2> there you see the security modules which are automatically loaded from the kernel.
[08:57] <Ubunti_Ki> malakhi, this is safe?
[08:57] <not_applicable> Where can I find the minimum system requirements for ubuntu? Kubuntu?
[08:58] <Pegasos989> silverton, it tells me that I must specify the filesystem type
[08:58] <malakhi> Ubunti_Ki, yes, as long as hda1 is your windows partition, it won't hurt a thing.
[08:58] <pashaw> not_applicable,   the install disk  press f1 or f2  i forget
[08:58] <Ubunti_Ki> malakhi, many thanks and merry christmas
[08:58] <Whistler> where is startup script located at?
[08:58] <Whistler> i wanna add some commands
[08:58] <malakhi> Ubunti_Ki, n/p and merry christmas to you.
[08:59] <not_applicable> pashaw, that means I have to download the iso first then
[08:59] <pashaw> not_applicable,   im kidding  ill grab you a link
[08:59] <SirKillalot> can I make mplayer adjust its own volume and not the systemwide volume? (I mean software volume instead of hardware)
[08:59] <Whistler> anybody?
[08:59] <silverton> Pegasos989, loopback devices must not be enabled in your kernel or something
[09:00] <Pegasos989> silverton, o...k... So... How do I disable those then
[09:00] <silverton> you mean "enable" ?
[09:00] <pashaw> not_applicable,   i know  it says 64mp RAM and 2G+  for base install
[09:00] <malakhi> Whistler, that would be /etc/init.d/
[09:00] <Pegasos989> silverton, whatever
[09:00] <Pegasos989> :P
[09:00] <silverton> :P
[09:00] <silverton> um...
[09:00] <silverton> you have to recompile your kernel
[09:01] <silverton> but, you really shouldn't have to
[09:01] <silverton> since ther eis already a loopback device on yoru system
[09:01] <not_applicable> Thank you Pashaw
[09:01] <kaffeend> pashaw I fixed it ;)
[09:02] <silverton> Pegasos989, mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso directory
[09:02] <silverton> try that
[09:02] <pashaw> kaffeend,   nice work   '
[09:03] <silverton> 'cept, file.bin of course
[09:03] <digitaleric> Hi all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10/amd64.  Several times, the install screen has hung, and when I switch terminals and run 'dmesg', the last few lines are a bunch of SATA timeout errors
[09:03] <kaffeend> pashaw lol - not really - I just reinstalled :D
[09:03] <digitaleric> this computer works fine in windows and with Fedora, so I think it's probably an issue w/the SATA drivers in the kernel shipped on the CD
[09:03] <pashaw> kaffeend,   cheap!   :P
[09:03] <digitaleric> is it possible to make an install CD with a different kernel version?
[09:03] <kaffeend> pashaw yep... and nasty! :P
[09:04] <silverton> digitaleric, not really
[09:04] <silverton> digitaleric, if you want a debian based system, and your choice of kernel
[09:04] <Pegasos989> silverton, still says about the bad fs type
[09:04] <kaffeend> !alsa
[09:04] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:04] <Whistler> can anybody make me an startup which does these commands: http://pastebin.com/477828 ?
[09:04] <silverton> digitaleric, nevermind >.<
[09:04] <Whistler> please people can you help me?
[09:04] <silverton> Pegasos989, ...  hmmz...  .bin is so much like .iso
[09:04] <Pegasos989> wel... gotta leave for like 30 mins :( -->
[09:04] <silverton> just change the extension
[09:04] <malakhi> Whistler, i answered you already
[09:05] <malakhi> Whistler, oh, sorry
[09:05] <Whistler> i dont know how to write it
[09:05] <kaffeend> !creative
[09:05] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kaffeend
[09:05] <kaffeend> doh
[09:07] <Whistler> can anybody make me an startup which does these commands: http://pastebin.com/477828 ?
[09:07] <Whistler> can anybody make me an startup script which does these commands: http://pastebin.com/477828 ?
[09:07] <silverton> Whistler, stop repeating yourself
[09:07] <digitaleric> Whistler, you're 90% of the way there already
[09:07] <silverton> go ask in #linux
[09:08] <digitaleric> take that, add the 1st line of "#!/bin/sh"
[09:08] <gnomefreak> #!/bin/sh
[09:08] <digitaleric> and save it as /etc/init.d/name.sh
[09:08] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me what packages to install to listen to *ahem* mp3s please? I've read up on the wiki page but it doesn't tell me anything about specific packages..
[09:08] <Whistler> and wont it ask password for sudo?
[09:08] <digitaleric> oh right, take out the sudo lines
[09:08] <digitaleric> init scripts run as root
[09:08] <Whistler> oh ok then
[09:09] <digitaleric> **take the 'sudo' out of those lines, is what i meant
[09:09] <silverton> !mp3
[09:09] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <silverton> ubotu, tell kaffeend about mp3
[09:09] <kaffeend> silverton - thanks, but I've been there and read up on the "multimedia" in general
[09:10] <daved> will    dd if=/dev/hdb of=/tmp/the.iso    work?
[09:10] <kaffeend> but I ended up installing ALL packages
[09:10] <digitaleric> daved: you're trying to make a CD imgae?  then that will work for most normal CDs
[09:10] <digitaleric> *data
[09:10] <daved> digitaleric, sweet
[09:11] <kaffeend> hence my very specific question :P
[09:11] <daved> digitaleric, yeah, i just loop mounted the resulting iso and it worked great
[09:11] <daved> just trying to backup random driver cd's that i have lying around :)
[09:11] <silverton> kaffeend, did you enable universe and multiverse?
[09:11] <kaffeend> yeah
[09:11] <silverton> and did these?
[09:11] <silverton> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[09:12] <puff> Hm... I have a laptop running hoary ubuntu, with a 60GB drive, and a 250GB USB drive.  What's the safest process to uprade to breezy?
[09:12] <kaffeend> silverton - actually no... I just reinstalled
[09:12] <silverton> reinstalled?
[09:12] <puff> The obvious approach that comes to mind is to dd a disk image of the 60GB drive onto the USB drive.
[09:12] <_tcc> does ubuntu come with any default ftp server software?
[09:12] <kaffeend> silverton is that what you recommend then?
[09:12] <_tcc> I need an FTP server.
[09:12] <Delvien> Is there a Gnome-apps.org kinda thing, like KDE-APPS.org
[09:12] <silverton> kaffeend, that's the only way to do it :P
[09:12] <puff> _tcc: sudo aptitude search ftp
[09:12] <silverton> so of course that's what all of recommend
[09:13] <kaffeend> silverton - gotcha. and yes, I reinstalled Ubuntu just now
[09:13] <silverton> kk, well install those
[09:13] <silverton> and then go down to "The Codecs" and do that
[09:13] <kaffeend> roger
[09:13] <puff> _tcc: Be aware that ftp is a not-secure protocol, usernames/passwords are transferred in cleartext when using an ftp server.
[09:13] <horgh> can someone tell me how to reinstall a program?
[09:13] <feross> hey how do you reload the modules? .. made a change in the modules.conf file
[09:13] <silverton> that'll let you watch mode .avi's .mpg's, and .wmv's with no problem
[09:13] <puff> horgh: sudo apt-get --reinstall programname
[09:14] <horgh> I never used apt-get
[09:14] <parti> hey guys. how do I restore the Grub ?
[09:14] <horgh> I don't have to configure it?
[09:14] <silverton> puff, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <puff> horgh: sudo aptitude reinstall programname
[09:14] <silverton> that's how it should be done
[09:14] <silverton> er, wait
[09:14] <silverton> nevermind >.<
[09:14] <ardchoille> is there a command I can type to see if I already have a certain app installed? On an rpm based system it was "rpm -qa | grep appname". How do I do that on Ubuntu?
[09:14] <puff> silverton: For the upgrade, yeah, but I'm paranoid, so I want to back up my system first.
[09:14] <silverton> have to chance your repositories to breezy
[09:15] <silverton> puff, what have you got to lose?
[09:15] <skon> ardchoille: apropos <cmd>
[09:15] <horgh> wow! whats that? I never heard about aptitude
[09:15] <horgh> and i launched it
[09:15] <horgh> what it does
[09:15] <puff> horgh: a) my bad, use aptitude instead of apt-get, b) no, apt-get is already installed, aptitude is probably installed, bu tif not, "sudo apt-get install aptitude"
[09:15] <puff> silverton: My data? :-)
[09:15] <parti> guys. how do I restore the Grub menu? WINdos has deleted it...
[09:15] <puff> silverton:  And lots of time and frustration.
[09:16] <skon> parti: Windows doesn't delete grub
[09:16] <silverton> what's data?  it can't be THAT important...  doesn't sound important at least... ;P
[09:16] <parti> or.. hide ?
[09:16] <_tcc> How do I set up ftp on the command line?
[09:16] <skon> parti: just put the ubuntu disk back in and have it reinstalled
[09:16] <horgh> puff: I have yet aptitude installed
[09:16] <ardchoille> skon: that does not do what I asked :(
[09:16] <_tcc> I did a base install.
[09:16] <puff> _tcc: Why do you think you need ftp?
[09:16] <_tcc> For uploads?
[09:16] <parti> I don't want to re-install Ubuntu. :(
[09:16] <_tcc> I want to run a web site.
[09:16] <silverton> HEY!
[09:16] <_tcc> And for easy uploads I am using ftp.
[09:16] <silverton> I don't want to hear any fucking bitching and complaining about reinstalling ubuntu
[09:16] <silverton> OKAY?!
[09:17] <silverton> I'll only hear about that shit in #gentoo
[09:17] <puff> horgh: aptitude is a friendlier version of apt-get.  Both of them are tools to work with the debian/ubuntu package management system, which helps manage installation and removal of software packages.  The glory of apt is that it also manages package dependencies.  While it is not infallible, it's better than most everything else people have come up wtih.
[09:17] <skon> asss
[09:17] <_tcc> haha
[09:17] <horgh> puff: what does aptitude
[09:17] <puff> _tcc: Uploads from whom?
[09:17] <parti> I am running Kubuntu Live CD now. and I see from gParted that I still have my Ubuntu partition. Which I though WIndows has erased it.
[09:17] <_tcc> from me?
[09:17] <puff> horgh: I just told you.
[09:17] <puff> _tcc: Don't use ftp, use scp.
[09:17] <_tcc> What is that
[09:17] <_tcc> ?
[09:17] <puff> _tcc: Or, possible, sftp.
[09:17] <horgh> oh sorry
[09:17] <puff> _tcc: Do you know what ssh is?
[09:17] <_tcc> secure ftp
[09:17] <_tcc> yes
[09:18] <skon> not quite
[09:18] <skon> its more than that
[09:18] <_tcc> How do I set an ftp server up on my server?
[09:18] <skon> sudo apt-get install ftpd
[09:18] <_tcc> I am totally in the command line here.
[09:18] <_tcc> Yeah I did that.
[09:18] <skon> or pro-ftpd or proftpd
[09:18] <gnomefreak> ssh=secure shell last time i checked
[09:19] <_tcc> lol
[09:19] <BoukenPink> If I put everything from my home folder on a CD and then reinstall Ubuntu... can I just copy it back? :3
[09:19] <skon> BoukenPink: of course
[09:19] <_tcc> I have no idea on how I want this set up.
[09:19] <kaffeend> silverton: any idea why I'm getting - "Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:19] <kaffeend> "?
[09:19] <_tcc> Or how to set it up.
[09:19] <BoukenPink> skon, sweet. :D Thanks.
[09:20] <_tcc> I want to set the actual FTP server up how do I do this?
[09:20] <sorush20> guys where do I get the codec?
[09:20] <kaffeend> I've enabled multiverse
[09:20] <_tcc> Like set users and dirs.
[09:20] <skon> tcc: it's already set up
[09:20] <puff> _tcc: Are you sure you want an ftp _server_ and not an ftp _client_?
[09:20] <_tcc> I want a *SERVER*
[09:20] <_tcc> lol
[09:20] <kaffeend> silverton - nvm it doesn't really matter :)
[09:20] <_tcc> I am pretty sure of what I want.
[09:20] <johndarkhorse> kaffeend: do you have multiverse repo enabled?
[09:20] <puff> _tcc: Just making sure.
[09:21] <skon> _tcc: it's setup already, just set the permissions of the ftp user
[09:21] <llukax> can someone help me, i dont have xorgconfig
[09:21] <_tcc> erm...how do you set the users and stuff?
[09:21] <_tcc> and how do i set where the uploads with go to?
[09:21] <kaffeend> johndarkhorse: yes
[09:21] <sorush20> !codec
[09:21] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, sorush20
[09:22] <sorush20> guys I keep getting the message that wmvdemo is missing
[09:22] <skon> _tcc: what do you want to set exactly?
[09:22] <sorush20> wmvdmod.dll is messing..
[09:22] <_tcc> The directory to upload....
[09:22] <_tcc> the user names
[09:23] <_tcc> user : apache w/ew/e
[09:23] <_tcc> and uploads go to....
[09:23] <_tcc> /home/tom/web/
[09:23] <_tcc> like so.
[09:23] <skon> hmm not sure
[09:24] <skon> well..
[09:24] <sorush20> happy christ mas everyone
[09:24] <skon> set the home directory of the ftp user to be whatever directory your apache is
[09:25] <_tcc> ok....
[09:26] <skon> I have an IBM PC camera and linux does detect it, but I'm not sure I know exactly how to grab images yet.. can anyone help?
[09:26] <Xmasmoo> how do I get the current color depth of my X-windows?
[09:26] <sorush20> guys my vid playback is jumpy..
[09:26] <BoukenPink> How can I write my home folder to a CD from the console? ^^
[09:26] <skon> BoukenPink: use cdrecord
[09:27] <gnomefreak> brb trying to burn this :(
[09:28] <[DeCaf] > How do I set up IP-aliasing in ubuntu? (i.e. making one network  interface respond to a range of IP-addresses)?
[09:28] <skon> Decaf: what do you mean by respond
[09:29] <[DeCaf] > skon: Well, basically so I can run a webserver with different sites at different IP-addresses, with only one network interface though.
[09:29] <skon> Decaf: hmm interesting, I'm not really familiar with that sort of thing, sorry I can't help
[09:30] <Xmasmoo> Decaf: you can use ifconfig command manually from command line
[09:30] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: Ok, *checking into that*
[09:30] <shwag_> how do I switch back to the default firefox icon ?
[09:30] <skon> shwag: right click, properties, emblems
[09:31] <koniec> hello, is there any tool that will report how much electric I'm using? (in kW? right?)
[09:31] <skon> shwag: not emblems...basic, select custom icon
[09:31] <Xmasmoo> koniec: yes there are
[09:31] <Xmasmoo> koniec: you can install power meter between the power cable and your computer
[09:31] <_tcc> skon: that is a simpler concept than you'd think.
[09:32] <afief> Do i have to do anything special to make Wine work on Ubuntu?
[09:32] <_tcc> Coming from a windows world where everything has to seem high tech.
[09:32] <_tcc> It's a simple path change.
[09:32] <koniec> Xmasmoo, I can't use a voltimeter?
[09:32] <skon> _tcc: not really, it's fairly simple actually, try googling it...
[09:32] <skon> I have to go now though
[09:32] <skon> bbl
[09:32] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: why are you sweating on xmas eve?
[09:32] <_tcc> peace
[09:33] <gnomefreak> burning dapper
[09:33] <Xmasmoo> koniec: usually low end "do-it-yourself" meters don't have function for measuring watts
[09:33] <_tcc> Trans-Europe Express
[09:33] <Xmasmoo> koniec: power companies lend you those meters if you ask them
[09:33] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: Do you know if theres a simple way to specify an range of IP-addresses? (i.e. 192.168.0.20-192.168.0.40)?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> last 2 times i upgraded crap was all kinds of messed up this time im burning it
[09:33] <afief> Do i have to do anything special to make Wine work on Ubuntu?
[09:34] <Xmasmoo> DeCaf: at least using a script and a running variable you can add in all ips manually. i am not sure if ifconfig directly supports IP ranges. I'll check.
[09:34] <koniec> Xmasmoo, you mean electric companies? do they usually charge you for it?
[09:34] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: I just switched to Ubuntu from RedHat, which had some ifcfg-eth0-range0 file that contained the range.
[09:34] <Xmasmoo> koniec: in finland they lend them without charge
[09:35] <Xmasmoo> DeCaf: ifconfig support ip ranges
[09:35] <afief> how can i get Wine to work on Ubuntu????
[09:36] <koniec> Xmasmoo, thanks : ) I'm in American though, so I can try but I'm doubtful it will be free
[09:38] <afief> can someone PLEASE tell me how to get Wine to work?
[09:38] <malakhi> afief, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:38] <malakhi> follow  the instructions there.
[09:38] <max_> anybody else having problems running GTK-gnutella?
[09:38] <malakhi> don't use the packages that ubuntu ships
[09:39] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: I can't seem to figure out how to specify a range... a single address works though.
[09:40] <afief> malakhi: I got the package they told me to get from their repository, restarted and still don't have an option to run win-based software
[09:40] <JasonOfEarth> hiya... anybody on on this merry <censored holiday> that knows about acpi?
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> I don't suppose anyone here could help me (or redirect me to a channel that could) with a 1996 Compaq laptop with a busted BIOS?
[09:41] <JasonOfEarth> I need to know what each of the scripts is for... and how it chooses to run a script
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> JasonOfEarth, I've had to fiddle with mine, but that doesn't necessarily mean I know about it.
[09:41] <Delvien> Anyone know how to make my  bootsplash tha spiffy brown color and make it say ubuntu again? i went to the blue one that says kubuntu
[09:41] <malakhi> afief, there is no real GUI option for running wine. it's all from the command line
[09:42] <posey> i just installed ubuntu, and my x server keeps crashing
[09:42] <JasonOfEarth> ack
[09:42] <JasonOfEarth> sorry learning chat
[09:43] <DonVincenzo> Hi, when I log out, the log screen is blank, and I can not shut down from here. Does anybody has a clue ?
[09:43] <malakhi> afief, before you try running anything, run winecfg
[09:43] <afief> well, what's the command then? in fedora i had a "run with wine" option
[09:43] <malakhi> that will get you the needed libraries, etc
[09:43] <Epix> what is thye package u need to play MP3s?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> afief and malakhi: Unless you do "Open with" and select /usr/bin/wine.  Mine actually automatically uses Wine for .exe.
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Epix: win32codecs
[09:44] <malakhi> afief and tonyyarusso, true enough. i've always just run it from the prompt. but that will work as well.
[09:44] <Epix> tonyyarusso: and, whats a good mixer for ALSA
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Epix: Or maybe it's w32codecs.
[09:44] <Xmasmoo> DeCaf: Then you might need to list all ips. How many ips you have?
[09:45] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell malakhi about mp3
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Epix: Not as sure about that; never really bother mixing.
[09:45] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: win32codecs have nothing to do with mp3
[09:45] <Epix> tonyyarusso: i mean, something like alsamixer
[09:45] <malakhi> johndarkhorse, what do i care about mp3?
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Oh?
[09:46] <afief> GUI opening doesn't work for me... but the open with thing sure did:) thanks for your support
[09:46] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: Well, it's only about 20 so it's not the end of the day even to do it manually.. (a script is even easier). Just wanted to know if there was a way to do it automagically :)
[09:46] <Xmasmoo> DeCaf: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs
[09:46] <rod> hi
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, I thought they were part of that set of nonsense.
[09:46] <afief> How do i know if i have hardware acceleration enabled?
[09:47] <shwag_> it sucks...mplayer works as a firefox plugin, but its all choppy.
[09:47] <rod> i have xubuntu installed on dapper because ubuntu-desktop wouldnt install... No biggy, but does XFCE have a replacement for the Gnome Multimedia Selector?
[09:47] <blue-frog> afief, terminal glxgears -printfps
[09:47] <shwag_> rod: how do I get dapper ?
[09:48] <[DeCaf] > Xmasmoo: Thanks, just what I was searching for :) (Seems the Debian way is to specify each address individually... oh well :)
[09:50] <sagarp> i'm running eterm as a transparent, borderless window..is there a way to prevent the taskbar button from showing up?
[09:51] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to point somehelp in mounting an ntfs drive, the instructions on ubuntuguide.org didn't work, and the wiki was really unclear
[09:51] <dennis_> Hey guys
[09:51] <dennis_> Does anyone know why glxgears is different in breezy than it was in hoary
[09:52] <dennis_> In Breezy...it doesn't show me the results like in hoary :/
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> stay away from the ubuntuguide, dailyrorschach it'll wreck your box
[09:52] <dennis_> It just keeps spinning
[09:52] <Delvien> Anyone know how to edit my grub boot list?
[09:52] <dailyrorschach> johndarkhorse: I used it back over the summer when I played with hoary, but I've been primarily using the userguide on the wiki, nonetheless, help with mounting ntfs?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/
[09:52] <_tcc> I have a user 'ftp' in which I login to my ftp....how can I change the login name?
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell dailyrorschach about ntfs
[09:52] <_tcc> Just change the username?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, The stable release is in April.
[09:53] <blue-frog> dailyrorschach, use the help guide (question mark on your taskbar)
[09:53] <johndarkhorse> dailyrorschach: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:53] <shwag_> tonyyarusso, is there going to be a combined ubuntu and kubuntu release so that you just choose your desktop during install ?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, Not to my knowledge, still separate disks.
[09:54] <dennis_> Noone knows whats up with it?
[09:54] <martin_> hi guys
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, That would be kind of slick though, so if it's possible for that to still fit on one desk maybe they are working toward that.  Don't know.
[09:54] <puff> Hm, so, question, I'm dd'ing a disk image of my laptop onto a USB drive.  I don't need to worry about space, the USB drive is 4x as big as the laptop drive.  But would it speed things up to use gzip?
[09:54] <dennis_> :/
[09:54] <martin_> anyone know something about wine?
[09:54] <Delvien> Anyone know how to edit my grub boot list?
[09:54] <malakhi> _tcc, you should be able to add any users you want to be able to use ftp to the ftp group, and they can login with their normal credentials.
[09:54] <martin_> I'm having problems...
[09:54] <shwag_> tonyyarusso, but now it is a livecd and install cd in one i hear. ..now that is cool.
[09:54] <_tcc> oh ok
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Delvien, Depends on your setup.  I've done some of that.
[09:55] <dennis_> Anyone know how to get the glxgears test results in breezy...for some reason it won't show the results in the terminal window
[09:55] <Delvien> tonyyarusso i just want to get into it and edit it so it doesnt show me 4 copies of linux
[09:55] <rockinchado> i just installed my wireless card using ndiswrapper everything worked fine but it doesn't show up in iwconfig         anyone know how to fix?
[09:55] <dennis_> Anyone know how to get the glxgears test results in breezy...for some reason it won't show the results in the terminal window
[09:55] <Delvien> tonyyarusso  know where the config file is?
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, Flight 2 wasn't like that yet, where'd you hear?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> Delvien, Sure.  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:56] <Delvien> tonyyarusso nm found it
[09:56] <martin_> anyone have an idea?
[09:56] <blue-frog> rockinchado, system>administration>network, does it show there?
[09:56] <shwag_> tonyyarusso, ohh...the kubuntu flight 2 cd was.  i assumed ubuntu was also.  i saw a review of kubuntu
[09:56] <rockinchado> blue-frog, no
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> Delvien, Just in case you didn't think to already, you probably want to comment out instead of delete in case you want them later.
[09:56] <dennis_> Wow, noone knows :/
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> shwag_, Ah.
[09:56] <Smerdykov> can someone give me the link of where to get the free ubuntu discs
[09:56] <blue-frog> dennis_, , terminal glxgears -printfps
[09:56] <Delvien> tonyyarusso aye thats what im doing now :)
[09:56] <dennis_> lol
[09:57] <dennis_> blue-frog, do you know why it is different from when it was in hoary?
[09:57] <dennis_> It just automatically showed it
[09:57] <rockinchado> blue-frog, when i do a ndiswrapper -l       it shows up fine and modprobe works
[09:57] <Dronepower> Does someone know why a working audigy on ubuntu  is not being reconized after a reboot?
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> Smerdykov, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[09:58] <Smerdykov> gracias
[09:58] <martin_> my problem is the following
[09:58] <martin_> I've installed wine with synaptics
[09:59] <martin_> when I download something, I can open it with wine and install it
[09:59] <blue-frog> rockinchado, then i don't know why it's not there sry
[09:59] <Seveas> dennis_, because glxgears is not a benchmark but is abused as being a bechmark far too much
[09:59] <martin_> but now, when I enter "wine <programname>" in the terminal, it can't find it
[09:59] <Seveas> martin_, you gotta tyoe the complete path...
[09:59] <Delvien> martin_ you have to navigate wine to find it
[10:00] <ElitePete> martin_, do you include the correct extension IE: .exe
[10:00] <martin_> but even if I drag and drop the name in it doesn't work
[10:00] <Delvien> martin_ in example "wine /home/martin/downloads/adobe.exe
[10:00] <martin_> yeah
[10:00] <martin_> just a sec
[10:00] <DUNFreak> Ok small question... Does anyone know how to change keyboard layout in ubuntu? I went to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard and changed it to what I wanted (Canadian French) and deleted US English.. But the bastard won't change the layout, even after rebooting. wtf?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ok why doesnt dapper use same drivers as breezy :(
[10:01] <limeira> Al? Brasucas  por a?
[10:01] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, too impolite, your pc doesn't like it
[10:01] <afief> How can i run things installed under Wine?
[10:01] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, :P
[10:01] <Delvien> Might be because hes french canadian ?
[10:01] <Seveas> afief, with wine :)
[10:02] <malakhi> afief, wine /path/to/*.exe
[10:02] <afief> okay, but where do i find it:) it's nowhere in the menu and i can't find any wine folder
[10:02] <DUNFreak> *sigh* of course I get assaulted because of my origins instead of helped. Figures.
[10:02] <martin_> then i get this: err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 0 bytes in thread 0009 eip 00578f61 esp 7f9f1000 stack 0x7f9f0000-0x7faf0000
[10:02] <gnomefreak> no kernel moduals found and it couldnt find nic card nor drivers :((
[10:02] <_tcc> Why do I keep getting a permission denied when I try to upload files to my FTP?
[10:02] <Delvien> martin_ what are you trying to run?
[10:02] <xenex> ispiked: i got my wireless card to work!
[10:02] <_tcc> ftp> put program.html
[10:02] <_tcc> local: program.html remote: program.html
[10:02] <_tcc> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[10:02] <_tcc> 550 Permission denied.
[10:03] <xenex> ispiked: its actually an easy process that i had to follow step by step in the forums
[10:03] <gnomefreak> _tcc, did you use sudo?
[10:03] <_tcc> yes
[10:03] <martin_> :/usr$ wine /home/martin/Desktop/NeatImage/NeatImage.exe
[10:03] <martin_> err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 0 bytes in thread 0009 eip 00578f61 esp 7f9f1000 stack 0x7f9f0000-0x7faf0000
[10:03] <Delvien> _tcc DO NOT Paste in here
[10:03] <martin_> me?
[10:03] <malakhi> _tcc, does the logged in user have write permissions for that directory?
[10:03] <martin_> not paste?
[10:03] <martin_> sorry
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !paste
[10:03] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:03] <johndarkhorse> _tcc: please read the /topic and use a pastebin
[10:03] <_tcc> I did a chown ftp
[10:03] <_tcc> sudo chown ftp *
[10:04] <_tcc> sudo chmod 777 *
[10:04] <martin_> what can I do?
[10:04] <_tcc> there should that not open everything up?
[10:04] <martin_> what's wrong?
[10:04] <malakhi> _tcc, are you logged in? or anonymous?
[10:04] <TheDracle> Um, there's some command to get Ubuntu to automagically detect x stuff...
[10:04] <Sh4d0x> boo
[10:04] <TheDracle> But I forgot what it was.
[10:04] <_tcc> I am logged in.
[10:05] <DUNFreak> Ok small question... Does anyone know how to change keyboard layout in ubuntu? I went to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard and changed it to what I wanted, before deleting the US English layout.. However the change is not done, the layout stays as US English whatever I do, even rebooting. Is there another way to apply keyboard layout changes?
[10:05] <DUNFreak> (better?)
[10:05] <TheDracle> Does anybody here know?
[10:05] <santa_shadox> how how how
[10:05] <santa_shadox> :D
[10:05] <martin_> help!
[10:05] <blue-frog> _tcc, can you write in your home folder?
[10:05] <_tcc> for the ftp user?
[10:05] <nuxGuru> I need help with a USR 5610 modem being recognized - I have reviewed all I could find at ubuntu and other siites; any modem experts here?
[10:05] <HymnToLife> TheDracle > what do you mean "x stuff" ?
[10:06] <no0tic> ispiked, hi ;)
[10:06] <no0tic> xenex, hi ;)
[10:06] <HymnToLife> nuxGuru > www.linmodems.org
[10:06] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, much, in a terminal what's the output of    locale  ?
[10:06] <no0tic> xenex, what about wireless networking?
[10:06] <nuxGuru> 5610 is nnot a linmodem
[10:06] <martin_> what am I doing wrong?
[10:06] <xenex> no0tic: i got it to work by myself :D
[10:06] <xenex> no0tic: its actually really easy :o
[10:06] <martin_> I've installed wine with synaptics
[10:06] <nuxGuru> this is a hardware based intrnal modem
[10:06] <martin_> and installed a program with it
[10:06] <no0tic> xenex, good!
[10:07] <martin_> now I can't run that program
[10:07] <malakhi> _tcc, make sure you've chmodded the actual DIRECTORY not just the files in it.
[10:07] <xenex> no0tic: and now ubuntu = my lover :D
[10:07] <malakhi> _tcc, ie chmod -R 777 /home/ftp (or whatever folder you're using)
[10:07] <martin_> I write "wine <programname and where it is, eg /home>" and then I get an error mesage
[10:07] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, http://pastebin.com/477870
[10:07] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, btw as u erased the us keyb when u were using it normally it's not erased...
[10:07] <ppd> hi! does anybody here have a hotplug map file which includes the lide 25 scanner ?
[10:08] <Definity> hi
[10:08] <no0tic> xenex, very very good
[10:08] <Definity> anyone have kismet running in ubuntu?
[10:08] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, yet another thing that's intuitive under wincrap and just messed itself up in linux :'(
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> nuxGuru: It could be one of those other weird catagories, like "controllerless" or some such thing, so linmodems and the scanModem utility might still be useful for gathering information.
[10:08] <_tcc> malakhi...i think i fucked something up
[10:08] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, so put a key board applet in your tasbar and chhose canadian
[10:08] <malakhi> _tcc, what's it doing?
[10:09] <Newbie3> I am new to the Ubuntu live CD and I have a question
[10:09] <_tcc> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[10:09] <nuxGuru> thanks .. am looiking over the site
[10:09] <_tcc> what is this?
[10:09] <_tcc> lol
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> Newbie3: Just ask it.
[10:09] <santa_shadox> Newie3 hi, welcome btw
[10:09] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, "Keyboard Indicator" sais my layout is the right one... hmn.
[10:09] <Definity> anyone have kismet running in ubuntu?
[10:09] <blue-frog> DUNFreak then erase the english keyb and/or log out and choose save current blah blah before hiting log out again
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> Newbie3, I checked out the live CD the other day too, after having Ubuntu installed for a few months; it was kind of fun.
[10:10] <malakhi> _tcc, not quite sure. i think it's a security feature. are you trying to login as root? or something of the sort?
[10:10] <_tcc> no
[10:10] <martin_> http://pastebin.com/477874
[10:10] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, actually I re-added the us english, then switched to it with the keyboard indicator, and then back to what I wanted... now it works.
[10:10] <DUNFreak> Go figure :(
[10:10] <martin_> that's my error message
[10:10] <TheDracle> Does anybody know how to get Ubuntu to do its autodetection stuff for video?
[10:10] <Newbie3> I want to run Firefox 1.5 -- I have downloaded and unpacked it, but how do you actually compile and run it?
[10:10] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, i dont knoz then sry; zorks fine zith ,e
[10:10] <TheDracle> I know it's dpkg -reconfigure something...
[10:10] <santa_shadox> tonyyarusso, few months :D i loved ubuntu second time i used it :D
[10:10] <_tcc> Wtf....now what?
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> !tell Newbie3 about firefox15
[10:11] <blue-frog> DUNFreak, as u can see...
[10:11] <bpuccio> !tell bpuccio about firefox15
[10:11] <DUNFreak> Yup. It works for me too.  <> ;)
[10:11] <poningru> !tell Newbie3 about firefox1.54
[10:11] <poningru> !tell Newbie3 about firefox1.5
[10:11] <_tcc> damnit all
[10:11] <Whistler> im trying to use alliases i set up : alias server='gnome-obex-server' it works fine, but is there any way i can make it to run it?
[10:11] <malakhi> _tcc, i'm not sure the ftpd is recognizing you as logged in. i'm afraid i'm not really familiar with vsftp (i've only used proftpd)
[10:11] <Whistler> now it opens in my terminal
[10:11] <Whistler> i want to just run it
[10:11] <Whistler> not in the command line
[10:12] <_tcc> malakhi, how do i get proftpd?
[10:12] <_tcc> Is it better?
[10:12] <malakhi> _tcc, i've never had a problem with it, but i've never really used anything else to give you an honest omparison.
[10:12] <DUNFreak> blue-frog, thanks for the help. The keyboard applet hint hit me :)
[10:12] <santa_shadox> Newbie3, you can go to mozilla home page, download the package .tar.gz, extract it, open folder and run the "sh" file :)
[10:12] <malakhi> _tcc, to install, sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:13] <Madeye> anyone had any luck with IRDA connection ?
[10:13] <Whistler> anybody knows what i mean?
[10:13] <santa_shadox> Madeye, no i'm searching too for a solution
[10:14] <malakhi> _tcc, but remember to apt-get remove vsftpd first
[10:14] <Whistler> im trying to use alliases i set up : alias server='gnome-obex-server' it works fine, but is there any way i can make it just to run but not open in command line ?
[10:14] <Delvien> VMware > dual booting , too bad vmware cant play games
[10:15] <Madeye> santa_shadox, well I didn't find any solution for bluetooth and IRDA till now, I have build-in of both in my laptop. however I found the best tool to switch wlan smoothly
[10:15] <Epix> how do i install a theme? Im at the menu but I dont know what file it wants to read.
[10:15] <dailyrorschach> Epix: drag the tarball into the theme window
[10:15] <Whistler> like using run command
[10:16] <santa_shadox> Madeye, i have too build in infrared but dunno how to install it
[10:16] <santa_shadox> Madeye, guess i'll leave it and only use it in XP
[10:16] <QMario> !Botsnack
[10:16] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[10:16] <dennis_> Does anyone know where the default gnome torrent program puts the torrent files it is using?
[10:16] <dennis_> Because i Just rebooted and dont have the original files :/
[10:16] <Madeye> santa_shadox,  actually it's shame that I have to boot to XP whenever I want to use IRDA or bluetooth.
[10:17] <Viper550> Hello everyone! I'm live from Breezy Badger!
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> santa_shadox, There's a package for enabling IR, and the ThinkWiki mentions it, which might be useful even if it's not an IBM, worth checking out.
[10:17] <santa_shadox> Madeye, uhu
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Hi Viper550!
[10:17] <Viper550> I had a little scary incident, I use KDM, and one time I booted, I got a console and X didn't work!
[10:17] <nekostar> how can i set up a vnc session so i can see the desktop im actually logged into remotely
[10:17] <_tcc> malakhi: It can't find proftpd.
[10:17] <dennis_> Does anyone know where the default gnome torrent program puts the torrent files it is using?
[10:18] <dennis_> Because i Just rebooted and dont have the original files :/
[10:18] <nekostar> dennis_,  try /home
[10:18] <Viper550> But, a simple command line command saved my life: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <santa_shadox> tonyyarusso ooh, diddn't know, but i'll check it out
[10:18] <dennis_> nekostar, they arent there
[10:18] <nekostar>  /home/username
[10:18] <dennis_> :/
[10:18] <Epix> USB wifi devices are slow as can be.
[10:18] <malakhi> _tcc, sorry. i forgot to tell you that you have to enable universe.
[10:18] <_tcc> how?
[10:19] <_tcc> I am totally on the command line.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> nekostar, Have you read the documentation for your VNC program?
[10:19] <_tcc> I did a base server install/
[10:19] <Viper550> I'm loving Ubuntu, last time I linuxed we had no LAN under it! But, that was Red Hat 9.
[10:19] <dennis_> Whats a good linux bittorrent client besides Az and 'Bittorrent'
[10:19] <Viper550> Also _tcc, I bet you use IRSSI
[10:19] <nekostar> tonyyarusso, last time i tried it gave me a new gui not the same one
[10:19] <_tcc> Why?
[10:19] <Viper550> Who thinks FreeSans should be the new Ubuntu GUI font default?
[10:19] <nekostar> no.
[10:20] <Viper550> It's more readable than Bitstream Vera
[10:20] <_tcc> How do I enable universe?
[10:20] <Viper550> In fact, I'm using it on X-Chat right now!
[10:20] <Viper550> Uncomment a line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <malakhi> _tcc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto
[10:21] <Viper550> This line is clearly marked, the whole file on Ubuntu is annoated for you, just sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <malakhi> the gist is that you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines
[10:21] <Viper550> I just said that malakhi
[10:21] <malakhi> yes, i see that
[10:21] <malakhi> slow fingers
[10:21] <christmas-tree-> http://pastebin.com/477787  i got a problem folks
[10:22] <_tcc> I fixed it.
[10:22] <Viper550> Fast Fingers!
[10:22] <malakhi> _tcc, then sudo apt-get update
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> christmas-tree-, Tell us what sort it is to alert us as to who should check your paste.
[10:22] <santa_shadox> christmas-tree-, normally christmas brings presents :p no errors ;);)
[10:22] <Viper550> Oh, does the base Ubuntu come with IRSSI?
[10:22] <malakhi> Viper550, it's not installed by default, if that's what you mean
[10:22] <Viper550> oh
[10:24] <Viper550> I'm going to see if I can get back on in Irssi, if I do, I am a good user!
[10:24] <Viper550> See ya in a min, hopefully
[10:24] <flixil> Hello
[10:25] <Ubunti_Ki> Strange, I have problem installing GPC
[10:25] <odat> anyone know how i install a .tgz  ??
[10:26] <arricka> hello
[10:26] <Delvien> odat you dont, its the equiv of a .zip
[10:26] <flixil> I cannot see some caracters (like `) using amule... All the other programs goes well... Can it be a problem with the locale?
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> odat: You unpack it, and then look for an installer in the unpacked files.
[10:26] <Viper550> I'm back, now using irssi!
[10:26] <malakhi> Viper550, happy now?
[10:27] <Ubunti_Ki> I write " sudo apt-get install gpc" and it starts to install and then comes message that say, could not find package?
[10:27] <Viper550> Wow, this is pretty neat
[10:27] <Viper550> (how do you change the colors?)
[10:27] <Epix> synergy is the shiz
[10:28] <Viper550> How better is this than Xchat?
[10:28] <arricka> I'm having trouble playing DVDs...I get "error reading dvdnav_get_next_block" in totem, and mplayer gives me something similar...do you think it's the dvd drive or something in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <Ubunti_Ki> how do I install gpc ?
[10:28] <Ubunti_Ki> gpc = compilator
[10:28] <mouhoub> hello
[10:28] <christmas-tree-> http://pastebin.com/477787  i got a problem folks  what to do fox
[10:28] <christmas-tree-> folks
[10:28] <Viper550> I really want to make Irssi look good, what can I do malahki?
[10:29] <mouhoub> plz i want to change my startup desktop(Image)
[10:29] <mouhoub> someone can help me
[10:29] <Viper550> Login Manager settings can help you with that
[10:29] <malakhi> Viper550, i'm afraid you're asking the wrong guy. i only use it when xchat isn't available. i like xchat's notification features too much.
[10:30] <Viper550> Oh, you've got the default blue and white too?
[10:30] <malakhi> aye
[10:30] <mouhoub> and if i want to download someone from Internet
[10:30] <Viper550> Guess the background is decided by the terminal app
[10:30] <malakhi> think so
[10:31] <mouhoub> sorry but i dont understund
[10:32] <[DeCaf] > Just installed ubuntu here and trying to compile a simple C-file. Get the error: "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory". Must be missing some package, but which one?
[10:32] <mouhoub> thank U
[10:33] <Viper550> Cool, you must be missing GCC! apt-get install gcc (with a sudo of course)
[10:33] <Viper550> Wow, this is cool!
[10:33] <[DeCaf] > Viper550: gcc is installed. :/
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> Viper550: installing 'build-essential' will get you gcc, autotools and others for a more complete build environment
[10:33] <Viper550> Ummm, I had to install that because it didn't give me it when I wanted to compile KBFX
[10:34] <Viper550> (yes, I mainly use KDE, but wanted to still have Gnome)
[10:34] <dennis_> Hello
[10:34] <dennis_> Guys, I need some real help :/
[10:34] <dennis_> I really screwed up the xserver
[10:34] <[DeCaf] > Viper550: Ah, build-essential may do it. Saw it installed libc6-dev which sounds like an important package ;)
[10:34] <Viper550> I'm just in Gnome 'cause startx brought me here. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <dennis_> And am running irssi because i cant even boot into gnome :/
[10:35] <dennis_> Stupid guide on how to change the default driver to the ati driver
[10:35] <dennis_> Screwed me all up
[10:35] <[DeCaf] > johndarkhorse: Thanks, the build-essential did it! =)
[10:35] <_tcc> malakhi, I have proftpd
[10:35] <Viper550> I'm using IRSSI because it's cool, I would have if I didn't know how to fix it
[10:35] <_tcc> and I set up 2 dirs in /home/ftp/
[10:35] <Viper550> Also, the reconfigure thing asks you about a X driver, and you can select ATI!
[10:35] <dabaR_> There is a free book on Debian from O'Reilly online. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/index.html
[10:35] <_tcc> Now what?
[10:35] <malakhi> _tcc, is it working ok?
[10:35] <_tcc> It never started ftp
[10:35] <_tcc> no
[10:35] <_tcc> lol
[10:36] <ElitePete> hmm, i had to force quit a program now all my icons are gone, how do i fix this without rebooting
[10:36] <malakhi> _tcc, you may have  to run sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[10:36] <dabaR_> ElitePete: icons on the desktop, or in the panels?
[10:36] <michael> Can somebody tell me where I can create a shortcut for a application?
[10:36] <ElitePete> dabaR, desktop i tried killall gnome-panel already
[10:36] <dabaR_> michael: where would you like it?
[10:36] <dabaR_> ElitePete: killall nautilus
[10:36] <ElitePete> dabaR, ok
[10:37] <ElitePete> dabaR, thanks much.
[10:37] <dabaR_> michael: try right clicking on the desktop and add a launcher
[10:37] <blanky> in GNOME, is there a way to make it so that whe you double click a .py file or ight click it, theres an option that runs the script
[10:37] <johndarkhorse> michael: anywhere you like
[10:37] <_tcc> malakhi, it said it is started from inetd
[10:37] <michael> I will create a shortcut z.B. to start a programm like apwal
[10:37] <_tcc> or xinetd
[10:37] <ElitePete> dabaR_, thanks much :-)
[10:37] <dabaR_> ElitePete: ya, Im the other guy too, just at home...did that help?
[10:38] <ElitePete> dabaR_, yep worked perfectly. hehe it was an autoname complete error
[10:38] <michael> I would push z.b. CTRL + 3. Then the Programm apwal starts
[10:38] <navarone> dabaR, I always wondered who "da other guy" was...lol
[10:38] <dabaR_> ElitePete: good.
[10:38] <Viper550> Anyone who has X problems: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then type startx after it's done
[10:38] <malakhi> or somthing like that
[10:39] <dabaR_> navarone: what? heh.
[10:39] <dabaR_> michael: what is z.b.?
[10:39] <Viper550> What I typed is what got me back into X
[10:39] <michael> z.b. for example
[10:39] <_tcc> malakhi, what does it want from me?!!?!
[10:40] <malakhi> _tcc, did the installer offer you a choice between standalone and inetd?
[10:40] <blanky> how can I change my default time
[10:40] <blanky> *font
[10:40] <dabaR_> You want to make a hot key that ctrl+3 opens an application?
[10:40] <Viper550> Are there command line switches to start an application in Gnome Terminal on a specific profile?
[10:40] <michael> dabaR, right
[10:40] <dabaR_> blanky: is there an option under System>Preferences?
[10:40] <malakhi> _tcc, because it should have
[10:40] <blanky> hmm...
[10:40] <johndarkhorse> Viper550: if the user has bungled their install, they need to choose the VESA driver during their reconfiguration (then they can start over with ATI or nvidia)
[10:40] <dabaR_> michael: I do not know. Search the forums it may have that shown there. search for gnome hotkeys.
[10:41] <blanky> thanks dabaR you're my pal
[10:41] <blanky> waht's the default font, Sans?
[10:41] <blanky> cause I think mine got changed
[10:41] <michael> dabaR_ thx
[10:41] <richard_> Does anyone here use a SD card reader for SD memory cards on Ubuntu?
[10:41] <Viper550> I didn't have to choose Vesa, ATI was autoselected!
[10:41] <_tcc> malakhi, i said inet or whatever
[10:42] <_tcc> how do i change it to standalone?
[10:42] <Viper550> Goodbye, how do you leave a channel?
[10:42] <dabaR_> Usuallt sans serif would be default on screens I expect.
[10:42] <no0tic> Viper550, /part #channel
[10:42] <dabaR_> !-books
[10:42] <ubotu> dabaR_: I give up, what is it?
[10:42] <dabaR_> !books
[10:42] <ubotu> from memory, books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - GNU/Linux
[10:43] <no0tic> !dapper
[10:43] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[10:43] <_tcc> malakhi, in the .conf file should I change that one line to standalone?
[10:43] <_tcc> for server type?
[10:43] <malakhi> _tcc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd
[10:43] <malakhi> _tcc, then choose standalone when it asks
[10:43] <dabaR_> ubotu: books is also http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/index.html
[10:43] <ubotu> okay, dabaR_
[10:43] <blanky> !mp3
[10:43] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:45] <malakhi> _tcc, you shouldn't have to change that in  the .conf if you used dpkg-reconfigure
[10:45] <_tcc> Well that's what it is telling me.
[10:45] <_tcc> It says it can't launch standalone or inetd.
[10:45] <rabbit1> !w32codecs
[10:45] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:45] <dabaR_> malakhi: you know how to start daemons in Ubuntu? the invoke-rc.d thing?
[10:46] <malakhi> dabaR_, eh?
[10:46] <_tcc> jesus christ, a mere ftp server.
[10:46] <malakhi> i always use  the init scripts
[10:47] <dabaR_> sudo invoke-rc.d proftpd start
[10:47] <malakhi> dabaR_, i think that's the same basic idea
[10:47] <dabaR_> ya it is.
[10:47] <malakhi> ok
[10:47] <dabaR_> Just wondering why not just start the server from your discussion.
[10:48] <_tcc> malakhi, maybe I need a restart.
[10:48] <dabaR_> _tcc: you should use sftp ftp is unsafe, no encryption for passwords.
[10:48] <_tcc> I know.
[10:48] <malakhi> dabaR_, yeah. we've already been over  that.
[10:48] <malakhi> that's why i'm having to run this through as we go
[10:49] <malakhi> it's been a long time since i set up an ftp server
[10:49] <malakhi> _tcc, so, when you run /etc/init.d/proftpd start, or invoke-rc.d proftpd start, what happens?
[10:50] <popey> ET on jolt4 anyone?
[10:50] <_tcc> malakhi, I rebooted and it looked
[10:50] <_tcc> like
[10:50] -MastaP:#ubuntu- http://MastaP.SuP.Fr I have something to show you, it's a mind reader that reads what you see! English and French version! http://MastaP.SuP.Fr
[10:50] <_tcc> it started the ftp
[10:51] <kbrooks> lol
[10:51] <_tcc> fucking
[10:51] <kbrooks> !ops
[10:51] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:51] <rabbit1> is that spam?
[10:51] <Seveas> _tcc, language
[10:51] <kbrooks> Seveas,
[10:51] <jean> hi
[10:51] <Seveas> kbrooks, you were too late :p
[10:51] <kbrooks> k
[10:51] <kbrooks> i didnt see
[10:51] <rabbit1> hi jean
[10:51] <dabaR_> hi.
[10:52] <jean> im on dialup and i just want libsdl-mixer1.2-dev but it wants to install a whole bunch of other stranger dev files with it...how can this be?
[10:52] <QMario> http://MastaP.SuP.Fr
[10:52] <QMario> Did you get this notice? ^
[10:52] <Yomic> Everyone did
[10:52] <kbrooks> QMario, a op dealt with it
[10:52] <_tcc> malakhi, It says  `ProFTPD started from inetd/xinetd`
[10:52] <Yomic> And it was annoying
[10:52] <_tcc> and that is all
[10:52] <dabaR_> heh
[10:52] <_tcc> this is ticking me off
[10:52] <_tcc> its a god damned ftp server
[10:52] <malakhi> _tcc, ok. you're going to have to edit your configs for proftpd. the good news is they're fairly well commented. hang on and i'll give you a url to help you out
[10:52] <_tcc> ok
[10:52] <dabaR_> _tcc: and have you tried connecting to your server?
[10:52] <_tcc> heh yea
[10:53] <knoppix_> Hello
[10:53] <_tcc> HELLO
[10:53] <dabaR_> _tcc: what do you get as the message?
[10:53] <_tcc> connection refused.
[10:53] <blanky> wtf with http://MastaP.SuP.Fr
[10:53] <kbrooks> blanky, out!
[10:53] <malakhi> _tcc, what are you trying to connect as?
[10:53] <knoppix_> I need your help.
[10:53] <_tcc> ftp
[10:53] <knoppix_> I want to add Grub.
[10:53] <kbrooks> Seveas, ty
[10:53] <dabaR_> jean: it is this concept of dependencies. To install something it needs to install something else.
[10:54] <blanky> sorry, someone sent me that message, Seveas, I didn't know what it was, sorry
[10:54] <jean> dabaR_: i see
[10:54] <dabaR_> _tcc: ftp localhost?
[10:54] <QMario> What is wrong with this website?
[10:54] <_tcc> no
[10:54] <Seveas> blanky, just ignore it
[10:54] <dabaR_> _tcc: do it.
[10:54] <malakhi> _tcc, you can't usually connect to ftp AS ftp
[10:54] <Seveas> QMario, it was spam, ignore it
[10:54] <jean> dabaR_: just something beyond our understanding?
[10:54] <QMario> I didn't know what it was either?
[10:54] <blanky> Seveas, okay :(
[10:54] <_tcc> what
[10:54] <_tcc> The server is 192.168.1.102
[10:54] <QMario> Okay. :(
[10:54] <_tcc> ftp 192.168.1.102
[10:54] <_tcc> connection refused
[10:54] <kbrooks> whiners!
[10:54] <dabaR_> jean: well, it is so, to walk, youhave to crawl, so to install blah, you need to install bl
[10:54] <dabaR_> or something like that.
[10:55] <dabaR_> _tcc: ya, that is your router helping you. Try ftp localhost from that machine.
[10:55] <malakhi> _tcc, try ftp username@url
[10:55] <cvtecxp> boa noite
[10:55] <tukuyomi_> jean, if you want ONLY libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, you can get it via libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, but you'll miss all dpendancies...
[10:55] <dabaR_> and it wont work
[10:55] <tukuyomi_> jean, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[10:55] <jean> dabaR_: yes it requires much time and patiences on dialup
[10:56] <dabaR_> jean: patience is a virtue.
[10:56] <_tcc> tom@ubuntu:~$ ftp 192.168.1.102
[10:56] <_tcc> ftp: connect: Connection refused
[10:56] <_tcc> look
[10:56] <dabaR_> time is a commodity
[10:56] <_tcc> it won't connect
[10:56] <tukuyomi_> (i missed my copy/paste ^^ )
[10:56] <dabaR_> _tcc: I told you, go to the computer on which ftp is installed, and "ftp localhost" that will test it.
[10:56] <jean> dabaR_: very good quality in men
[10:56] <NewbieWithUBuntu> I am trying to Install Firefox 1.5.  I have managed to untar the file, but how do you actually run the thing?  A firefox directory is sitting on the Desktop.
[10:56] <dabaR_> jean: so my ex told me.
[10:56] <jean> and women
[10:56] <knoppix_> I have two Operating System, Ubuntu & WIndows, but I don't have GRUB. How do I enable it ?
[10:57] <_tcc> Connection refused.
[10:57] <_tcc> The ftp is*NOT* working.
[10:57] <dabaR_> _tcc: for localhost?
[10:57] <_tcc> oui
[10:57] <_tcc> ftp does not even start on the machine
[10:57] <dabaR_> from that same machine?
[10:57] <_tcc> YE
[10:57] <_tcc> YES!
[10:57] <rabbit1> knoppix did you install on a eperate drive? or on a partitoin?
[10:57] <rabbit1> *seperate
[10:57] <knoppix_> what is partitain ?
[10:58] <dabaR_> _tcc: did you use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd to set it up to start as standalone?
[10:58] <jean> tukuyomi_: are you telling me i dont need to go along with the dependencies?
[10:58] <_tcc> yep
[10:58] <_tcc> doesnt work
[10:58] <knoppix_> Well, the thing is that WIndows erased the Grub.. so I cannot un Ubuntu anymore.
[10:58] <blanky> I make a Templates folder in Home to make templates for files right?
[10:58] <dabaR_> _tcc: from now on, test only with ftp localhost.
[10:58] <rabbit1> was ubuntu on a seperate harddrive?
[10:58] <david> hi all
[10:58] <tukuyomi_> nope, not with http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ but it might not fully work
[10:58] <dabaR_> NewbieWithUBuntu: you are trying to compile something. Here is what ubotu thinks about it.
[10:58] <knoppix_> no. It was in the same HD. I has different partitions
[10:59] <david> can someone answer a question?
[10:59] <dabaR_> !compiling
[10:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[10:59] <dabaR_> I cant believe he let me down.
[10:59] <dabaR_> !ask
[10:59] <knoppix_> I see that my Windows hasn't erasd my Ubuntu partition. As I can see from Knoppix Live CD and Ubuntu Live cd...
[10:59] <jean> sounds nice but im on dialup
[10:59] <blanky> guys, dabaR, you know how you create a folder in home to make templates for files right?
[10:59] <malakhi> _tcc, let me think on this. i've just installed it on my server  back home to make sure i wasn't forgetting something,  and it  worked out of the box for me.
[10:59] <knoppix_> so, I want to recover the Grub ;)
[10:59] <blanky> is it called Templates?
[10:59] <david> im like "linux noob" so i cant figure out how to install things.. how do I install files ive downloaded.. ive heard about using terminal but how do I use it?
[10:59] <michael_> dabaR_ I have found a tut for hotkey. There is the link: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Tastenk%C3%BCrzel
[11:00] <_tcc> I hate to say it but windows was more reliable.
[11:00] <_tcc> lo
[11:00] <blanky> what's the name of the folder im supposed to create in /home (i think it's something liek templates) so that when I right click and choose create document, it appears there
[11:00] <malakhi> _tcc, are you running anykind of firewall or filtering on the server?
[11:00] <Ralken> I am using these directions to set up SWAT for samba http://www.zippydesign.com/ying/linux/samba/part7.html but I am still getting a connection failed error. Ive checked to see if the net services were there but nothing.  I tryed using the instructions at the same site to restart inetd and my terminal says no inetd process. I am also using that same ip address assigned to swat for a local lan but its using port 901 so I think that doesnt ma
[11:00] <Ralken> tter if Im wrong please let me know.  Can anyone give me any type of advice?
[11:00] <_tcc> nope
[11:00] <rabbit1> knoppix, I don't know if this is the best way...   but: see under grub/lilo heading:   http://www.sysresccd.org/systools.en.php
[11:00] <_tcc> everything worked fine and dandy on windows
[11:00] <rabbit1> knoppix,  it's a rescue cd you can boot from
[11:01] <rabbit1> I've never tried it : P
[11:01] <david> im like "linux noob" so i cant figure out how to install things.. how do I install files ive downloaded.. ive heard about using terminal but how do I use it?
[11:01] <david> im like "linux noob" so i cant figure out how to install things.. how do I install files ive downloaded.. ive heard about using terminal but how do I use it?
[11:01] <dailyrorschach> david: what are you trying to download much of what you can get can be done through packages
[11:01] <blanky> dont double post (!kick)
[11:01] <dabaR> michael_: it is a little bit in deutch.
[11:01] <david> edonkey right now but other things too.. media players and stuff
[11:01] <blanky> david System > administration > synaptic
[11:02] <knoppix_> Rabbitl: I'm follwoing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[11:02] <knoppix_> but can't understand it
[11:02] <_tcc> friggen christmas
[11:02] <_tcc> I need to go...
[11:02] <david> how does synaptic work?
[11:02] <_tcc> lol
[11:02] <_tcc> Stupid ftp.
[11:02] <blanky> guys, in XMMS, when playing an mp3 file (i have the codecs), it says PLEASE CHECK THAT Your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, and no other program is blocking the soundcard
[11:02] <dabaR> david: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html is a tutorial for installing.
[11:02] <blanky> however, playing mp3 works perfectly in rhythm box
[11:03] <malakhi> _tcc, type ps ax | grep proftpd
[11:03] <_tcc> Well, thanks anyway.
[11:03] <_tcc> ok
[11:03] <dailyrorschach> blanky: I have the same problem blanky
[11:03] <david> dabar thx =)
[11:03] <dailyrorschach> blanky: I can use any other program, everything else works, except xmms
[11:03] <blanky> dailyrorschach, yeah, but once i click ok sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt lol
[11:03] <dabaR> blanky: run "nohup esd&" in a terminal.
[11:03] <_tcc> malakhi, wtf
[11:03] <blanky> but xmms pwns :(
[11:03] <blanky> dabaR, thanks!
[11:03] <_tcc> it says its running
[11:03] <blanky> you got that dailyrorschach ?
[11:03] <dailyrorschach> yep
[11:03] <dabaR> blanky: and close all sound programs.
[11:03] <blanky> *writes it down* thanks dabaR! :)
[11:03] <dabaR> blanky: did it work?
[11:03] <blanky> yah
[11:04] <_tcc> brb
[11:04] <_tcc> I need to go
[11:04] <_tcc> really
[11:04] <knoppix_> :(
[11:04] <malakhi> _tcc, if proftpd is running, it will return two lines, and  one of them will be proftpd: (accepting connections)
[11:04] <_tcc> eek bye
[11:04] <malakhi> _tcc, well, good luck
[11:04] <dailyrorschach> dabaR: I have the same problem as blanky, what is it that command is doing
[11:04] <ElitePete> anyone in here know how in gimp to change between layers? :-)
[11:04] <dabaR> blanky: ok, then, go System>Preferences>Sound or something like that...
[11:04] <rabbit1> knoppix, hang on
[11:04] <dabaR> dailyrorschach: it starts your sound server.
[11:04] <blanky> dabaR, thanks
[11:04] <knoppix_> ok :)
[11:04] <dailyrorschach> dabaR: ok cool, I hate just putting in commands without knowing what they're doing
[11:04] <dabaR> blanky: are you there? There should be a start sound server when logging in, or automatically check box, that you need checked off.
[11:05] <dabaR> dailyrorschach: a good thing.
[11:05] <blanky> dabaR, yeah I said thanks! I got it man, thanks thanks thanks
[11:05] <jean> if an app is written in c and has bindings to other apps. what does this mean if you could explain it to me
[11:05] <blanky> dabaR, do you hear me?
[11:05] <dabaR> blanky: you checked off start the sound server?
[11:05] <dabaR> welcome?
[11:05] <dabaR> is that it?
[11:05] <blanky> so i have to check off enable sound server startup, so that it doesnt start?
[11:05] <shwag> trying to configure gaim-rhythmbox, but i get   checking for gaim... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim >= 0.79) were not met.
[11:05] <blanky> right dabaR?
[11:06] <dabaR> so that it does start, instead of starting it manually with the command I gave you first.
[11:06] <dabaR> And also tell dailyrorschach how to do it if he did not get it.
[11:06] <dailyrorschach> dabaR: nah, I got it
[11:06] <blanky> dabaR, it was already checked
[11:07] <blanky> dabaR, it was already checked lol, it supposedly already started at startup
[11:07] <blanky> and it did, i heard the log in sounds and all
[11:07] <blanky> it was just xmms
[11:07] <existance> how do i tell if i have mysql installed on apache?
[11:07] <Epix> whats the difference between BMP and XMMS
[11:07] <NewIRC> Gnome 2.13.3 this is the last gnome build ?
[11:07] <dabaR> dailyrorschach: nohup means do not kill this command when I exit this terminal I typed it in. The & means run this command in the background so I can still use this terminal while you run that command. esd is the command to start the sound server.
[11:08] <blanky> lol thanks
[11:08] <dabaR> blanky: find the option to use esd as your default sound daemon in those sound settings, rather.
[11:08] <dailyrorschach> ok, that makes a lot more sense explained now, I mean i'm not a total idiot, just new to linux, just having to relearn a new language
[11:08] <existance> how do i tell if i have mysql installed on apache?
[11:08] <dabaR> Epix: bmp is prettier cause it uses a different graphical toolkit.
[11:08] <existance> apache2
[11:08] <blanky> dabaR, where?
[11:08] <dabaR> blanky: no idea, I am at work now.
[11:08] <blanky> np, thanks anyways
[11:09] <dabaR> knoppix_: do you need to restore your ubuntu after installing windows?
[11:09] <blanky> !recoverubuntu
[11:09] <ubotu> blanky: Are you smoking crack?
[11:09] <rabbit1> knoppix....     there seem to be several ways to do it..  command line or by running the installer to a certain point... but that doesn't seem like a good idea
[11:10] <knoppix_> dabar. something like that... but I see that my UBuntu is not dead. Since I can see the partition using tqparted in the Live CD
[11:10] <Ralken>  sudo killall -HUP inetd- I ran this command and I get - inetd: no process killed
[11:10] <Ralken> ,  I cut and pasted this so is there a typo somewhere
[11:10] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell blanky about recover
[11:10] <rabbit1> I would try that resource cd if I were you...    unless dabaR has a better idea
[11:10] <knoppix_> The thing is that when I turn on the Comp. It automatically runs WIndows, without leting me choose what OS to run...
[11:10] <dabaR> knoppix_:
[11:10] <dabaR> !restoregrub
[11:10] <ubotu> dabaR: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:10] <blanky> johndarkhorse, lol, i was trying to tell that other dude that wanted it
[11:11] <dabaR> !grub
[11:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:11] <knoppix_> yeah.. and I tried to use the Installed CD as directed by the How-to. but I was lost in step number 4
[11:11] <dabaR> existance:
[11:11] <dabaR> !lamp
[11:11] <ubotu> hmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:12] <dabaR> foampeace: explain to get an answer.
[11:13] <knoppix_> I am reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com//GrubHowto
[11:13] <blanky> where's the mount windows hard drive howto page
[11:13] <blanky> !mountntfs
[11:13] <ubotu> well, mountntfs is for help accessing that pesky permission denied windows partition, read  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:14] <paal> do any of you know some good repositories i can add for ubuntu?
[11:14] <arctic> merry christmas everyone!, sorry but i hope smbdy can help me, my ubuntu clock in breezy badger 64bit version is running too fast, is this an apic error?
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> paal: just these from ubotu
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell paal about repos
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> paal: using non ubuntu binaries will hose your system
[11:14] <NewbieWithUBuntu> Can anyone recommend a good firewall for use by newbies with ubuntu?  I am an (ex-)Windows user.
[11:15] <johndarkhorse> NewbieWithUBuntu: there is no need for a firewall with a default installation
[11:15] <johndarkhorse> NewbieWithUBuntu: there is no reason for a lot of things here that are required on windows
[11:16] <arctic> can somebody give me a tip plz?
[11:16] <NewbieWithUBuntu> John your response begs the question: Why can you say this? How is this so?
[11:16] <knoppix_> guys
[11:16] <johndarkhorse> NewbieWithUBuntu: simple. this is not windows, and doesnt have it's fallabilities
[11:16] <knoppix_> I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6129
[11:17] <imrabti> hello
[11:17] <imrabti> i've problem in Gnome Skin
[11:17] <[HUN] Lag-Zik> hiall
[11:17] <slide> arg, wtf is the 'browser string' called? Im trying to find the firefox extension to change it but i cant think of what its called.
[11:17] <blanky> !templates
[11:17] <ubotu> blanky: I give up, what is it?
[11:17] <blanky> !template
[11:17] <ubotu> I don't know, blanky
[11:17] <blanky> man...
[11:17] <david> daBar: Where does the program get installed so I can find it and start it?
[11:17] <dabaR> knoppix_: try running what it tells you.
[11:18] <imrabti> I've a skin of Macos X and when i applie it, it doesn't change the button and other controles
[11:18] <imrabti> it only change the window border and the icone
[11:18] <dabaR> david: usually in your applications menu on the top left.
[11:18] <david> ok
[11:18] <eobanb> imrabti, you need a matching GTK theme
[11:18] <imrabti> yes i've a gtk compatible them
[11:18] <NewbieWithUBuntu> Well, then...is there any way to see who/what I am connecting to -- ie some sort of network monitoring tool?
[11:18] <imrabti> and it's in my friend computer
[11:18] <eobanb> imrabti, i'm guesing you're only theming metacity
[11:18] <eobanb> guessing*
[11:18] <imrabti> yes
[11:19] <Delvien> anyone know how to install a mouse theme for gnome??
[11:19] <Ralken> how do I start inetd?
[11:19] <Leslie_B> Hali:-)
[11:19] <david> daBar: In 1 of the folders or just plain application folder?
[11:19] <imrabti> but i 've gtk and gtk 2 theme
[11:19] <dabaR> NewbieWithUBuntu: well, here is a better answer. Windows by default has all ports open, and Ubuntu has all closed.
[11:19] <knoppix_> ok
[11:19] <sorbix> hey sorry i know theres a lot of people here, but during installation partman freezes at 52% examining my hard disk for partitioning... i can switch consoles so my whole pc doesnt freeze, and i can kill the process and keep trying, but every time it freezes at 52%
[11:19] <imrabti> but it's not work when i applied it
[11:19] <knoppix_> dabar :
[11:19] <knoppix_> I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6130
[11:19] <dabaR> david: depending on whether it is a sound&video application, or what. What did you install?
[11:19] <johndarkhorse> NewbieWithUBuntu: there are many network tools available, etherial, ntop, and nmap are the most popular
[11:20] <imrabti> In the folder i've Gtk 1 and gtk 2 theme
[11:20] <Gatorade> I have a problem with my live cd my mouse does not respond when it installs
[11:20] <Ralken> anyone know how to start inetd?
[11:20] <dabaR> knoppix_: y
[11:20] <knoppix_> ok
[11:20] <NewbieWithUBuntu> have used etherial in Windows before
[11:20] <imrabti> please help
[11:20] <david> a filesharing progra.. he one popping up when seracheng for filesharing..  now it seems like it was not a filesharing program but a desktop enhancement software
[11:20] <johndarkhorse> NewbieWithUBuntu: if you visit help.ubuntu.com, it may answer lots of your questions
[11:21] <knoppix_> ok
[11:21] <knoppix_> I did put Y
[11:21] <imrabti> can anyone help me
[11:21] <knoppix_> and... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6131
[11:22] <blanky> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76419 < -- isnt working for me :'(
[11:22] <portingSAIS> do bugs reported using reportbug just vanish?
[11:22] <blanky> I'm supposed to create a folder called Templates in /home ?
[11:22] <Gatorade> Does anyone know how I can find out if my mouse is compatible with Ubuntu?
[11:22] <dabaR> knoppix_: looking good.
[11:22] <knoppix_> yeah ? :)
[11:23] <knoppix_> What do I do next ? ;)
[11:23] <dabaR> SO far so good it seems to me...
[11:23] <portingSAIS> every bug I file gets a mailing list moderation message
[11:23] <NewbieWithUBuntu> been to ubuntu.org -- just wondering if there is a precompiled package for Firefox 1.5.  Can't seem to get it to compile and run.
[11:23] <portingSAIS> and then vanishes
[11:23] <dabaR> No idea, follow the wiki on restoring Ubuntu after installing windows.
[11:23] <dabaR> NewbieWithUBuntu: I like 1.0 better.
[11:23] <Gatorade> Why does my mouse freeze when ubuntu live cd starts up?
[11:24] <dabaR> is it in you, Gatorade ?
[11:24] <redvelvet> how do i install the .bin file i downloaded from java?
[11:24] <Gatorade> thats funny
[11:24] <bobbyd> Hi, I have a situation where I have a raid1 array, one of the disks was completely wiped and I need to add it back to the array. whe I try to add it it says "has no superblock - assembly aborted". can anyone point me at the solution?
[11:24] <knoppix_> so...
[11:24] <dailyrorschach> uboutu tell NewbieWithUBuntu about firefoxnewversion
[11:24] <knoppix_> Should I restart ?
[11:24] <paal> !easysource
[11:24] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:24] <dabaR> knoppix_: you can try that...
[11:24] <knoppix_> ok
[11:24] <knoppix_> BRB.
[11:24] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell NewbieWithUBuntu about firefox15
[11:24] <dabaR> I am going home, see you all later.
[11:24] <knoppix_> bye
[11:24] <knoppix_> C" you
[11:24] <knoppix_> and thank you ;)
[11:24] <blanky> noobuntu
[11:24] <dabaR> yup,
[11:25] <Gatorade> yeah this room is a big help
[11:25] <Gatorade> Guess I'll stick with windows
[11:25] <blanky> why
[11:25] <eric_> When I had windows I had to things like clean out a temp folder and cookies folder do I need to do that with Ubuntu
[11:25] <no0tic> ubotu, tell no0tic about firefox15
[11:25] <blanky> Gatorade, need help?
[11:25] <Ralken> anyone know how to start inetd?
[11:25] <dailyrorschach> Gatorade: what was your problem?
[11:25] <Gatorade> Cause my mouse freezes when I run Ubuntu
[11:25] <portingSAIS> eric_: install tmpreaper
[11:25] <portingSAIS> eric_: also, you can set firefox to only accept cookies during the current session
[11:25] <Gatorade> It doesn't respond
[11:26] <blanky> Gatorade, judging linux with the linux live CDs is highly discouraged
[11:26] <eric_> thanks, I'll try both methods
[11:26] <Gatorade> I wanted to test the program before installing it
[11:26] <portingSAIS> eric_: tmpreaper may be in universe
[11:26] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: what sort of mouse?
[11:26] <Gatorade> Ge optical
[11:27] <portingSAIS> USB?  PS/2?  Serial?
[11:27] <Gatorade> It's not a usb
[11:27] <Gatorade> The other 2 I'm not sure
[11:27] <sorbix> hey sorry i know theres a lot of people here, but during installation partman freezes at 52% examining my hard disk for partitioning... i can switch consoles so my whole pc doesnt freeze, and i can kill the process and keep trying, but every time it freezes at 52%
[11:27] <portingSAIS> what shape is the plug at the end of the cable?
[11:27] <eric_> ok, I'll check it out. Thanks for the advise
[11:27] <Gatorade> Round
[11:27] <portingSAIS> is it a trapezoid or a circle?
[11:27] <redvelvet> can someone help me install java?
[11:27] <portingSAIS> okay, it's a PS/2 mouse
[11:27] <Gatorade> circle
[11:27] <Gatorade> yeah
[11:28] <toya__> redvelvet, are you installing jdk or jre?
[11:28] <FliesLikeABrick> what is the root password to the ubuntu livecd?
[11:28] <portingSAIS> do you have any special software on the windows side that does something for the mouse?
[11:28] <redvelvet> toya_ i dont know
[11:28] <Gatorade> I never installed any kind of softward for the mouse I just ran windows install thats it
[11:29] <dailyrorschach> FliesLikeABrick: toor
[11:29] <FliesLikeABrick> thank
[11:29] <FliesLikeABrick> s
[11:29] <Gatorade> Is there something I need to shut off?
[11:29] <Gatorade> disable
[11:29] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: okay, that's a good sign.  Chances are the live CD just isn't as good at detecting the mouse as the installer would be.  THere's always a few differences.  Your mouse should work during a normal install.  is there another mouse you could borrow while you try out ubuntu?
[11:29] <toya__> redvelvet, what do you need java for?
[11:29] <febreezy> so i was having trouble with sound on windows xp.  i popped in ubuntu live cd. and sound works. but i want to be able to access music files on my hard drive. i suppose i have to mount the hard drive. but how?
[11:29] <toya__> redvelvet, to program java programs or to run?
[11:30] <redvelvet> toya__ i need it for internet
[11:30] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: also, do you know which ubuntu release your liveCD is?
[11:30] <Gatorade> actually no but I'll see what I can do thanks
[11:30] <redvelvet> toya__ firefox
[11:30] <Gatorade> Oh let me check
[11:30] <slide> Isnt there a php plugin for eclipse, is it just not in synaptic?
[11:30] <Gatorade> 5.10 porting
[11:30] <portingSAIS> porting?
[11:31] <Gatorade> portingSAIS*
[11:31] <toya__> redvelvet, read this http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java any problem tell me
[11:31] <portingSAIS> haha
[11:31] <portingSAIS> oh right!
[11:31] <portingSAIS> well that's good
[11:31] <toya__> does anyone want to tell me abt slackware and gentoo's strong points and how they are compared to each other?
[11:31] <jocke1s> hi
[11:32] <Gatorade> I'm just assuming my mouse isn't compatible with linux
[11:32] <Gatorade> Ge and Microsoft probably have some deal
[11:32] <Gatorade> Ge = NBC = MSNBC
[11:32] <redvelvet> thanks toya_
[11:32] <toya__> redvelvet, np
[11:33] <knoppix> Hey
[11:33] <knoppix> i'm back
[11:33] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: I doubt it.  PS/2 mice are pretty standard.  i've used many with ubuntu
[11:33] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: but it's possible they do something funny
[11:33] <Gatorade> Well I noticed something else on the installation
[11:33] <knoppix> My Grub problems wasn't solved :(
[11:33] <eric_> i just installed tmpreaper, what next do I need to use a terminal to run it
[11:33] <Gatorade> The hot plug in doesn't seem to run
[11:33] <knoppix> I just wanted to say that... I got to go. but I;m sure I will be back
[11:33] <Gatorade> Everything else is marked as ok except that
[11:33] <knoppix> See you guys
[11:33] <portingSAIS> eric_: no, it should run every night and clear out any files older than a week
[11:34] <knoppix> and Merry Christmas to all of you !
[11:34] <portingSAIS> Gatorade: aha, yeah.  that sounds like a livecd problem.
[11:34] <Ralken> how can I find out if inetd is running?
[11:34] <portingSAIS> Ralken: ps fauxw | grep inetd
[11:34] <portingSAIS> Ralken: ps fauxw | grep inetd | grep -v grep
[11:34] <portingSAIS> heh
[11:34] <Gatorade> I've tried several different Downloads all have the same problem
[11:34] <blanky> what's a good ftp client under linux
[11:34] <blanky> besides terminal
[11:34] <blanky> lol
[11:34] <eric_> cool, so I don't need to do anything.
[11:35] <Xmasmoo> blanky: GUI or no GUI? ncftp, gftp
[11:35] <funman> ok so I have a little problem, I got the latest Ubuntu 3 days ago, but for reasons unknown it's having roblems connecting to my home network (to the router), the wireless uses a WPA key, and it can't conenct at all to that (It doesn't even catch the SSID that's set to broadcast). When I try going wired it lets me access the network, but not the internet...Any of you smart people know what might be the problem ?
[11:36] <blanky> Xmasmoo, GUI, i already have gftp i was wondering if there were others, thanks anyways
[11:36] <blanky> man i was sad, i thought you were dead by now
[11:36] <blanky> probably shot by some gangsta
[11:36] <concept10> funman, is the card configured?
[11:36] <blanky> or something
[11:37] <portingSAIS> man, this channel is a zoo!
[11:37] <funman> concept10, it should all be fine
[11:37] <funman> it worked the last time I installed Ubuntu, but I had to go back to windows because of school...
[11:37] <ssstormy> Is migrating linux to a different harddrive as simple as copy/paste the contents of your partition, and adding a new boot manager to your MBR?
[11:37] <concept10> funman, as in do you have the proper drivers for your card?
[11:37] <ssstormy> or is there invisible stuff ingrained in the partition, like the windows registry?
[11:37] <no0tic> ssstormy, no
[11:38] <no0tic> ssstormy, no, simply configuration files
[11:38] <funman> concept10, yes I do have the right drivers
[11:38] <no0tic> ssstormy, if you have linux installed on /dev/hda1
[11:38] <Gatorade> Should I try Installing Ubuntu directly to my hard drive on another partition and seeing how that runs?
[11:38] <no0tic> ssstormy, it will mount /dev/hda1 on / for instance
[11:38] <scenestar> good eve all
[11:38] <Ralken> portingSAIS,  does this mean its running?  5624  0.0  0.0   2932   400 pts/0    R+   17:38   0:00      \_ grep inetd
[11:38] <febreezy> would anyone like to help me attempt to get music playing in rhythmbox?
[11:38] <no0tic> ssstormy, you have to tell hime not to do so, if you change partition
[11:39] <scenestar> febreezy: what is the problem?
[11:39] <no0tic> febreezy, mp3 are not read?
[11:39] <scenestar> automatix
[11:39] <febreezy> scenestar: im on a live cd and i dont know how to access the mp3 files on my hard drive
[11:39] <scenestar> no shit
[11:39] <concept10> funman, install network-manager
[11:39] <scenestar> just like
[11:39] <ssstormy> no0tic, I mean can I just do a "cp -a / /mount-point-for-partition-on-new-drive"?
[11:39] <scenestar> mount the windir
[11:39] <no0tic> ssstormy, no
[11:39] <ssstormy> and then of course install a bootloader
[11:39] <scenestar> theres a thread on the forums
[11:39] <ssstormy> no?  how would I do it?
[11:40] <funman> concept10, I can't install anything without the internet though...which I can't access at all...
[11:40] <scenestar> search for the thread on how to get all your windows fonts on linux
[11:40] <no0tic> ssstormy, reinstall it
[11:40] <scenestar> theres a command in there
[11:40] <ssstormy> no0tic, I have to?
[11:40] <scenestar> just copy paste that itno your terminal
[11:40] <no0tic> ssstormy, it's the easyest way
[11:40] <no0tic> ssstormy, it's the easiest way
[11:40] <scenestar> and you can listen to you juarezed mp3s
[11:40] <concept10> funman, you cant connect with wired ethernet?
[11:40] <scenestar> now
[11:41] <scenestar> i have a few questions
[11:41] <Evil_Whisper> hello guys
[11:41] <ssstormy> no0tic, I'm thinking it might not be, with the work I've put into this install... plus the downloads i put into it :) (all those .deb's)
[11:41] <scenestar> for xmass i wanna give myself the ultimate gift
[11:41] <funman> not even with wired...it gets to the router...some times...but that's a rare happening, and I only get internet when it actually connects
[11:41] <scenestar> a life of opensource software
[11:41] <scenestar> and a free os
[11:41] <scenestar> but before i move over, i need to migrate a few things
[11:41] <no0tic> ssstormy, you want to replace harddisks?
[11:41] <ssstormy> yeah
[11:41] <funman> every time I want the ethernet to work I have to reset my router 3-4 times...
[11:41] <scenestar> is there any way i can play my pirated windows games?
[11:41] <no0tic> ssstormy, or add a new one?
[11:41] <ssstormy> well I want to add a new one
[11:41] <scenestar> and is there a way i can get msn to run?
[11:41] <ssstormy> and migrate to the new one
[11:42] <ssstormy> but possibly still use te old one
[11:42] <Evil_Whisper> scenestar: use gaim :-)
[11:42] <no0tic> ssstormy, reinstall
[11:42] <Evil_Whisper> scenestar: or aMSN
[11:42] <scenestar> Evil_Whisper: i need the cam thing
[11:42] <scenestar> and the added screen name thing
[11:42] <scenestar> i allready use gaim for AIM
[11:42] <scenestar> but my gf uses msn
[11:42] <scenestar> and shes a bitch about these things
[11:42] <scenestar> and i like to see her on cam when im away
[11:42] <Evil_Whisper> try wine :p
[11:43] <scenestar> too hard
[11:43] <apokryphos> scenestar: language, please.
[11:43] <scenestar> im lazy
[11:43] <no0tic> scenestar, gf = grand father? ;)
[11:43] <Evil_Whisper> Has anyone gotten steam to work on wine 0.9.4?
[11:43] <scenestar> Evil_Whisper: just use cedega
[11:43] <no0tic> scenestar, she's a bitch on webcam?
[11:43] <Evil_Whisper> Don't want to pay for it lol
[11:43] <scenestar> *cough* torrents *cough*
[11:43] <no0tic> scenestar, wow, how lucky you are ;)
[11:43] <scenestar> meh i want to run linux dammit
[11:44] <Evil_Whisper> wine 0.9.3 ran it fine before I had to do a re-install but now it freezes up
[11:44] <no0tic> scenestar, try kopete with kde3.5
[11:44] <scenestar> nah
[11:44] <scenestar> im a gnome guy
[11:44] <no0tic> scenestar, it supports cams
[11:44] <no0tic> scenestar, mee to
[11:44] <apokryphos> Kopete does very well with webcam support now
[11:44] <scenestar> 0_o
[11:44] <Evil_Whisper> scenestar: install it in Gnome =P
[11:44] <scenestar> meh
[11:44] <ssstormy> speaking of new harddrives, does ubuntu support SATA as an install target?
[11:44] <apokryphos> of course
[11:44] <scenestar> ssstormy: better than doze
[11:44] <no0tic> scenestar, you can simply install it from the kde3.5 repository
[11:44] <scenestar> yeah, but i mean
[11:44] <scenestar> i NEED msn
[11:44] <scenestar> my SOCIAL life depends on it
[11:44] <apokryphos> scenestar: why?
[11:45] <ssstormy> hm
[11:45] <scenestar> all my luser friends use it
[11:45] <apokryphos> why not Kopete
[11:45] <Evil_Whisper> Kopete has camera support
[11:45] <ssstormy> as i understood it, SATA was a lot of work to get going right
[11:45] <slide> omfg firefox cant access any pages
[11:45] <slide> wtf
[11:45] <no0tic> scenestar, with kopete you can connect to msn
[11:45] <scenestar> i know that
[11:45] <no0tic> slide, control DNS
[11:45] <ssstormy> slide, make sure you're connected
[11:45] <scenestar> i just dont like the interface etc
[11:45] <slide> ssstormy, lol im talking to you now arent I? hehe
[11:45] <apokryphos> .....
[11:45] <slide> no0tic, huh?
[11:45] <ssstormy> slide, if you think it's really firefox's fault try a new browser
[11:45] <Evil_Whisper> scenestar: try aMSN thats the only other thing i can think of
[11:45] <Gatorade> Is it okay to open a second partition running ububntu??
[11:45] <scenestar> also, if i were to run games on cedega
[11:45] <no0tic> slide, DNS are ok?
[11:45] <scenestar> what about trainers?
[11:46] <ssstormy> slide, ... ?
[11:46] <scenestar> how can i run my trainers
[11:46] <slide> ssstormy, it just happened heh and my ie (in wine) can connect heh
[11:46] <apokryphos> amsn is uuurgly
[11:46] <scenestar> apokryphos: i agree
[11:46] <slide> no0tic, should be, i dont know why it wouldnt
[11:46] <ssstormy> slide, I see
[11:46] <scenestar> plus i want the real deal
[11:46] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: there is a tutorial to fix that on the forums
[11:46] <scenestar> with the annoing nudges etc
[11:46] <slide> hrm, opera cant access internet
[11:46] <ssstormy> slide, that's strange
[11:46] <Evil_Whisper> scenestar: wine is the only way if at all possible
[11:46] <scenestar> Evil_Whisper: that just adds extra images
[11:46] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: might look into it, but Kopete currently pretty much fulfills all my needs
[11:46] <no0tic> slide, very strange
[11:46] <scenestar> i like a simple UI
[11:46] <apokryphos> would be nice if it had the whiteboard thing ;-)
[11:46] <scenestar> i love the win98 theme
[11:47] <slide> I think my dns servers might have gone down
[11:47] <scenestar> because it is consisten
[11:47] <scenestar> t
[11:47] <Evil_Whisper> Is kopete ugly?
[11:47] <scenestar> hell yeah
[11:47] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: Kopete is beautiful
[11:47] <Evil_Whisper> in gnome?
[11:47] <slide> brb
[11:47] <scenestar> all linux apps look godawfull
[11:47] <scenestar> for such a powerfull os, it has a crippeled gui
[11:47] <portingSAIS> Big Question: How am I supposed to file a bug?
[11:47] <no0tic> portingSAIS, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <scenestar> portingSAIS: theres a bug reporting tool installed by default
[11:48] <scenestar> anyways, im sure i want linux, if only if it were for raw socket support and easy apache install
[11:48] <scenestar> but i need msn
[11:48] <portingSAIS> scenestar: yeah, but all my reportbug bugs end up getting dropped on the floor
[11:48] <scenestar> and games
[11:48] <portingSAIS> scenestar: I get a bounce message from the ubuntu-users list
[11:48] <scenestar> hmmmmm
[11:48] <scenestar> NAT?
[11:48] <portingSAIS> no.
[11:48] <apokryphos> http://giannaros.org/kopete.jpg -- the standard window
[11:48] <portingSAIS> that's not the problem
[11:48] <scenestar> what is the exact error?
[11:49] <scenestar> excuse me a bit
[11:49] <Fred> does postfix send and/or receive email?
[11:49] <portingSAIS> Your mail to 'ubuntu-users' with the subject
[11:49] <portingSAIS> python2.4-pygame: Pygame throws an exception when trying to set a
[11:49] <portingSAIS> font
[11:49] <portingSAIS> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
[11:49] <portingSAIS> the trouble is not that I'm not sending the mail
[11:49] <scenestar> hmmm
[11:49] <portingSAIS> I get a copy of it at the address I use for reportbug
[11:49] <scenestar> odd
[11:49] <Evil_Whisper> aporkyphos: is that in gnome or KDE?
[11:49] <Gatorade> Can someone give me some advice?
[11:49] <apokryphos> For the actual Kopete window you get a lot of choices (especially since it's now integrated with Khotnewstuff). I use Clear: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=28743
[11:49] <scenestar> sendmail issues?
[11:49] <scenestar> meh
[11:50] <portingSAIS> scenestar: are you talking to me?
[11:50] <scenestar> yeah
[11:50] <portingSAIS> scenestar: I have 0 mail problems
[11:50] <portingSAIS> 0
[11:50] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: in KDE. It shouldn't really look different in GNOME
[11:50] <portingSAIS> but the reportbug tool is set to send mail to ubuntu-users, which is a moderated list
[11:50] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[11:50] <portingSAIS> and that list is saying "I do not want any bug reports unless you've subscribed"
[11:50] <Evil_Whisper> now If only i could find a way to make opera look nice
[11:50] <scenestar> portingSAIS: no wonder
[11:50] <apokryphos> Opera is pretty :P
[11:50] <scenestar> subscribe d00d
[11:50] <portingSAIS> that's a very special type of bullshit.
[11:50] <scenestar> i prefer firefox
[11:50] <Gatorade> I'm gonna create a second partion for ubuntu and keep my windows and other files on my first partition is that okay??
[11:50] <portingSAIS> i should not have to set up accounts, subscribe to lists, or otherwise LOG IN just to REPORT A BUG
[11:50] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Got a way to make opera look good?
[11:51] <scenestar> portingSAIS: welcome to linux
[11:51] <scenestar> we are a minorty
[11:51] <portingSAIS> it's not like anything is going to be assigned to me
[11:51] <scenestar> and we cling together
[11:51] <portingSAIS> debian just accepts the bug from reportbug
[11:51] <portingSAIS> does the correct thing
[11:51] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: looks good here. What's the problem with yours there?
[11:51] <scenestar> portingSAIS: debian != ubuntu
[11:51] <portingSAIS> ubuntu's reportbug is broken
[11:51] <scenestar> no it isnt
[11:51] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: my file edit view etc bar doesn't match the rest of the browser
[11:51] <portingSAIS> it is.
[11:51] <scenestar> it is just encouraging to contribute to the community
[11:51] <scenestar> its lamer friendly
[11:51] <portingSAIS> I shouldn't have to subscribe to a 200 message per day list just to file one bug
[11:52] <scenestar> so lamers have to be forced to contribute
[11:52] <portingSAIS> scenestar: you are mistaken. please stop talking.
[11:52] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: too small?
[11:52] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Its a diffrent color
[11:52] <portingSAIS> scenestar: it is rejecting my bugs.  this is not encouraging me to contribute *anythig*
[11:52] <scenestar> just like
[11:52] <scenestar> stfu
[11:52] <scenestar> kthnx
[11:52] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: screeny?
[11:52] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Just a second
[11:52] <psusi> is there a way to force unmount a filesystem NOW, as in screw any unwritten data, so not sync, do not pass go, abort, retry fail?
[11:53] <scenestar> no
[11:53] <no0tic> apokryphos, how khotnewstuff works?
[11:53] <portingSAIS> psusi: scenestar is not the brightest bulb on the tree here.  umount has a --force option that is often helpful
[11:53] <portingSAIS> it's -f
[11:53] <psusi> portingSAIS, it seems that only makes the unmount happen even if there are open files... it still syncs
[11:54] <portingSAIS> psusi: yeah, I often kill all processes that have open files first
[11:54] <apokryphos> no0tic: it's a tool that integrates with kdelook.org -- some applications and other things on KDE use it now. i.e. you fire up the Settings, and you have an option to download new styles etc
[11:54] <psusi> portingSAIS, my problem is that the system is currently trying to write a lot of data to my cdrw drive and the writes are failing... so even umount -f tries to finish all the writes before unmounting, so it's just jacking off now since the disk isn't actually writing anyhow
[11:54] <psusi> portingSAIS, no files are open...  but the kernel is still trying to sync the filesystem before unmounting
[11:55] <apokryphos> no0tic: KDE originally used it for backgrounds, but it's being used with more and more things now -- amarok, kopete, and eventually hopefully: icons, styles, windecs etc
[11:55] <psusi> is there no way to tell it not to bother doing that?
[11:55] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: I'm just re-installing it now just a moment
[11:55] <yuacht> ok so i have this Avant 5gb mp3-player, any clues on how to sync it with ubuntu?
[11:55] <redvelvet> toya_ you still there?
[11:56] <no0tic> apokryphos, on kde my fn keys (up e down volume) don't work; in gnome they do; what can I do?
[11:56] <scenestar> hmmm
[11:56] <scenestar> is this a laptop?
[11:57] <psusi> umount --I-really-mean-force-it-right-now ;)
[11:57] <apokryphos> no0tic: easy to fix. Just assign a shortcut for them in khotkeys
[11:57] <no0tic> apokryphos, ah, khotkeys crashes
[11:57] <no0tic> apokryphos, :)
[11:57] <labandus> hi
[11:57] <redvelvet> i have just been told, bash: fakeroot: command not found
[11:58] <labandus> i 've got a little problem
[11:58] <apokryphos> no0tic: actually, not from khotkeys -- from kmix. Khotkeys shouldn't be run by itself (i.e. not from alt+f2 or terminal) -- but from systemsettings (or kcontrol).
[11:58] <labandus> can someone help me ???
[11:58] <apokryphos> no0tic: though, you're right, it still shouldn't crash when doing that -- it's a kubuntu packaging bug.
[11:58] <no0tic> apokryphos, ;)
[11:58] <apokryphos> no0tic: still, you get all the functionality from kcontrol/systemsettings.
[11:58] <labandus> i wanna a tool with that i can burn DVD in Ubuntu ???
[11:59] <labandus> can someone help me ???
[11:59] <labandus> please
[11:59] <tenshi> gnome baker
[11:59] <no0tic> apokryphos, via kmix it doesn't work
[11:59] <apokryphos> labandus: k3b
[11:59] <tenshi> what system do you use?
[11:59] <apokryphos> no0tic: it doesn't detect it?
[11:59] <labandus> please apokryphos ??
[11:59] <apokryphos> labandus: the application is called k3b -- it's in the repositories.
[12:00] <tenshi> k3b for kde, gnome baker for gnome
[12:00] <no0tic> apokryphos, if I try to configure global shortcuts, it doesn't do anything when I press Fn key