| Zdra | :-( | 12:02 |
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| JanC | libdvdcss has a DMCA problem | 12:03 |
| JanC | it's illegal in the US & with the new EUCD in Europe it will be illegal too :-( | 12:03 |
| Zdra | damn | 12:03 |
| JanC | copyright protection circumvention blah | 12:04 |
| JanC | of course it's just a way to make things more expensive here in Europe | 12:04 |
| Zdra | that's a shame to not be able to read dvd out-of-the-box for a user-friendly distrib like ubuntu... but if it's illegal we cannot do any thing... :'( | 12:05 |
| JanC | maybe if it wouldn't be possible to change between DVD region codes and someone pays the license fees... | 12:06 |
| JanC | like Fluendo paid license fees for MP3 & MPEG2 | 12:07 |
| Zdra | yes but for mp3 we have ogg, but for DVD we have no choice to use libdvdcss | 12:08 |
| JanC | well, there is ogg theora, but that's a real cpu-hog | 12:09 |
| Zdra | copy protection leads to one thing : downloading the divX is easier than read the legal dvd... GREAT ! | 12:09 |
| Zdra | why I download ? because I can't bye musique on the web (IE+WMP requiered) | 12:10 |
| JanC | plus the DivX is available months before the cinema release here in Belgium... | 12:10 |
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| JanC | well, you can buy some music as MP3 or Ogg Vorbis | 12:10 |
| JanC | or even FLAC in some cases | 12:11 |
| Zdra | JanC: all website i've seen reject me because I don't uses IE | 12:11 |
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| Zdra | and even if I had windows i wouldn't use IE | 12:11 |
| womble | I rip all my DVDs for convenience (no need to fiddle with discs all the time), safety (no scratches on my HDD), and to avoid those butt-reamingly annoying "copyright notices" you can't skip over. | 12:11 |
| JanC | Zdra: http://www.belgianmusiconline.be/ works fine, but they have only a small number of Belgian artists... | 12:12 |
| JanC | OTOH, they have Ogg Vorbis :) | 12:13 |
| JanC | and Belgian artists means mainly Flemish artists | 12:15 |
| JanC | because they have lots of work to convince record companies to not use WMA/iTunes DRM-stuff :-( | 12:16 |
| Zdra | There is a very small number of music... | 12:16 |
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| JanC | yeah, I guessed that (ULB is French) but there is an English language site too AFAIK? | 12:17 |
| JanC | and Hooverphonic etc. are well-known outside Flanders I think :) | 12:18 |
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| Zdra | JanC: i'll take a look later... good night everybody ! | 12:20 |
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| crimsun | yep, no better time to do merges :) | 04:49 |
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| JohnnyMast | mary chrismas every one | 12:01 |
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| sivang | merry Xmas JohnnyMast | 12:22 |
| JohnnyMast | :) | 12:23 |
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| minghua | any MOTU would review a sync please? malone 5372 | 01:00 |
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| zakame | evening all, merry xmas :D | 02:11 |
| greenpenguin13 | evening | 02:12 |
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| zakame | heya ajmitch , azeem ! merry xmas! | 02:13 |
| Yagisan | G'day all, boxing day here now | 02:14 |
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| zakame | w00t Yagisan | 02:16 |
| Yagisan | zakame: so, what did you spend christmas doing ? | 02:17 |
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| zakame | Yagisan: well we had the usual eve dinner, then after some 4 hours of sleep, lunchtime with my grandfather who was recovering | 02:20 |
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| Yagisan | zakame: I just had a not so quiet lunch with the wife and kids, watched the kids lose interest in their toys after a record 20 seconds, then spent the afternoon watching Iron Chef | 02:22 |
| zakame | Yagisan: w00 Iron Chef, haven't seen that for quite a while | 02:22 |
| Yagisan | zakame: Wife is now on an O/S phone call to mum & dad, so I thought I'd log in and see how many other were here | 02:23 |
| zakame | (no cable TV yet :( | 02:23 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I don't have cable either :( Actually, I have almost non-existent tv reception | 02:23 |
| Yagisan | zakame: Iron Chef Japan, or Iron Chef America ? | 02:24 |
| zakame | Yagisan: I've seen some of Japan, not yet America | 02:24 |
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| Yagisan | zakame: You'll want to rip your eyes out after watching ICA - like most of their adaptions it wasn't well done | 02:25 |
| Yagisan | zakame: ICJ all the way :) | 02:25 |
| zakame | waah | 02:25 |
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| === zakame puts that bit on the planner-el | ||
| === Yagisan looks lovingly at his currently 18GB and growing collection | ||
| zakame | w00t indeed :) | 02:26 |
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| Yagisan | zakame: I wish I had decent tv reception, I could record an add free version of iron chef every saturday night of sbs | 02:28 |
| Yagisan | zakame: my tv tuner is useless at this apartment :( | 02:29 |
| zakame | Yagisan: I pray the Three Kings hear you :) | 02:29 |
| Yagisan | zakame: they have - they decided that today, I get no 7, 9, 10, ABC or SBS :( | 02:30 |
| zakame | waah!!! | 02:30 |
| Yagisan | zakame: that is every free-to-air channel unavailable instead of just one or two today | 02:30 |
| zakame | Yagisan: your channels signoff there just this xmas, or _every_ xmas? :( | 02:31 |
| Yagisan | zakame: it's just me this christmas - I'm sure everyone else is enjoying another repeat of "A chistmas carol" or one of the other endless christmas repeats that they usually put on | 02:33 |
| zakame | Yagisan: awww *patpat*... yeah, sometimes---no, most of the time---those xmas specials just `overdo' it :( | 02:34 |
| Yagisan | zakame: just TWO pats, come on man, I'm a furry animal, a yagisan, more pats man | 02:35 |
| Yagisan | don't forget behind the ears | 02:36 |
| Yagisan | and where is my carrot to snack on ;) | 02:36 |
| zakame | Yagisan: er I don't know what a yagisan is... yet ;) | 02:38 |
| Yagisan | zakame: a yagi is a goat, yagi san = mr goat | 02:38 |
| === zakame pats Yagisan all over, especially behind the ears :) | ||
| zakame | ooh! :D | 02:39 |
| === zakame should brush up on his Japanese | ||
| === Yagisan feels better, and promptly eats zakame's hat, before running off | ||
| zakame | LOL! | 02:40 |
| Yagisan | the channel feels strangely empty today | 02:42 |
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| spacey_ki | its christmas Yagisan :) | 02:58 |
| zakame | hey spacey_ki :) | 02:58 |
| zakame | and slomo :) | 02:58 |
| spacey_ki | hi zakame | 02:58 |
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| spacey_ki | merry christmas | 02:58 |
| spacey_ki | :) | 02:58 |
| spacey_ki | think i'll eat goat tonight | 02:59 |
| slomo | hi zakame, spacey_ki :) | 02:59 |
| spacey_ki | hi:) | 02:59 |
| === Yagisan baahs "I've got christmas decorations stuck in my teeth" | ||
| Yagisan | slomo, spacey_ki: Merry Chistmas! - Did you remember to get me something O:-) | 03:00 |
| spacey_ki | :p | 03:01 |
| zakame | hear, hear!!! same here! | 03:02 |
| slomo | Yagisan: well... my christmas presents were liferea 1.0 and banshee 0.10.2 ;) nothing for you? tell me your wishes :) | 03:02 |
| zakame | yeah, liferea!!! | 03:04 |
| Yagisan | slomo: I got my kids appreciation for 20 whole, that's right count em, 20 whole seconds | 03:04 |
| Yagisan | woo hoo | 03:04 |
| Yagisan | next christmas - santa can visit me instead | 03:04 |
| === Yagisan sits on santa's lap: "So Yagisan, what do you want for christmas", Yagisan whispers into Santa's ear, and Santa turns *bright* red | ||
| bmonty | Yagisan: have you been talking with Santa about the first thing that pops up? | 03:06 |
| === Yagisan is permanently added to the naughty list for that | ||
| zakame | buwahaha | 03:07 |
| bmonty | I told my son that he missed the deadline to get on Santa's list for this year | 03:07 |
| === Yagisan hopes he didn't ask for what I asked for | ||
| Yagisan | bmonty: It's nice when they still believe in santa | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: eventually they realise it's you that buys the gifts | 03:09 |
| bmonty | he is barely two months old so he has no idea what is going on | 03:09 |
| bmonty | he just likes the lights on the tree as another thing to stare at :) | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: mine are 22 months and 5 weeks | 03:10 |
| bmonty | damn...you gotta let her recover! | 03:10 |
| bmonty | :) | 03:11 |
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| Yagisan | bmonty: yeah, not much choice now, she had a difficult delivery with the last one :( | 03:13 |
| Yagisan | but santa said 1) he's not a doctor, he can fix her, and 2) no female viagra | 03:14 |
| Yagisan | s/can/can't | 03:14 |
| bmonty | :) | 03:14 |
| Yagisan | I was devastated | 03:15 |
| Yagisan | here I am, stuck with an absolutely gorgeous woman, and I have to behave myself. It's just unnatural I tell you. | 03:16 |
| Yagisan | I'm a goat, hence horny by nature :-D | 03:16 |
| zakame | rocking! :D | 03:16 |
| === Yagisan baahs in frustration | ||
| Yagisan | In other news my dvd ripping cluster stopped working because suddenly after a *kernel* upgrade, I now need to enter a password for | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | key based ssh access. WTF ? | 03:18 |
| zakame | huh? o_O | 03:19 |
| Yagisan | zakame: exactly. No change in config, no change in ssh key, but now it was a password. stopped my cluster dead. | 03:20 |
| slomo | Yagisan: maybe it couldn't mount your home partition anymore and can't find the key? ;) | 03:20 |
| Yagisan | s/was/wants | 03:20 |
| Yagisan | slomo: /home is on / for the nodes | 03:21 |
| slomo | no idea then :) | 03:21 |
| Yagisan | this is what I get: | 03:21 |
| Yagisan | (amd64)jamie@doomguy:~/media/movies/sorted$ ssh 192.168.1.32 | 03:21 |
| Yagisan | Enter passphrase for key '/home/jamie/.ssh/id_rsa': | 03:21 |
| slomo | hm | 03:22 |
| Yagisan | jamie@192.168.1.32's password: | 03:22 |
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| Yagisan | on every system. there is no passphrase for that, and if I enter the client local password it works. | 03:23 |
| spacey_ki | and if you leave it empty? | 03:23 |
| spacey_ki | :) | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | spacey_ki: I get "jamie@192.168.1.32's password:" repeated at me | 03:23 |
| spacey_ki | ok ;p | 03:24 |
| spacey_ki | shouldn't be related to kernel i think | 03:24 |
| Yagisan | instant breakage of dvdrip because of it | 03:24 |
| spacey_ki | sounds more like an sshd setting | 03:24 |
| spacey_ki | or something | 03:24 |
| spacey_ki | :) | 03:24 |
| Yagisan | spacey_ki: that is on package default settings | 03:25 |
| spacey_ki | but no clue. i'm off for family visit :) | 03:25 |
| spacey_ki | bb :) | 03:25 |
| Yagisan | spacey_ki: It should not be the kernel, but that was the last change before it broke :( | 03:25 |
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| Yagisan | slomo: you came back to fix my problem ???? | 03:28 |
| Yagisan | O:-) | 03:29 |
| slomo | Yagisan: nope :( i have to fix my own problem currently... i hate nfs... | 03:29 |
| Yagisan | slomo: me too. but I need it for my ltsp stuff to work | 03:29 |
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| Yagisan | slomo: are your nfs mounts just not mounting. I had that a while ago | 03:30 |
| slomo | Yagisan: no... they're not responding anymore :P | 03:31 |
| Yagisan | brb - need to put a little girl to bed | 03:31 |
| zakame | gaah, nfs :( | 03:31 |
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| bmonty | my nfs mounts take forever to mount but after that they work fine | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | re | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | the reason it's called nfs is because it Never Functions Successfully | 03:44 |
| zakame | haha | 03:44 |
| slomo | bmonty: install portmap | 03:45 |
| zakame | yep, portmap | 03:46 |
| bmonty | hmm...I thought it was... | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | of course we could use Sometimes May Backfire instead | 03:47 |
| bmonty | that was it...thanks slomo, zakame | 03:49 |
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| zakame | wb ogra_ibook , merry xmas :D | 03:52 |
| ogra_ibook | zakame, same to you :) | 03:52 |
| Yagisan | Woo hoo fixed my ssh problem | 03:54 |
| Yagisan | my dvd cluster works again :-D | 03:55 |
| Yagisan | (for reference I blew away the authorised keys on every client, and generated new ones, which where the scp'ed to the clients) | 03:56 |
| Yagisan | s/the/then | 03:56 |
| === bmonty wants ldap/kerberos/openafs running on his network | ||
| === Yagisan thinks you may was well chuck in true ddns and ipsec opportunistic encryption while you are at it | ||
| bmonty | nah, I just want single sign on | 03:58 |
| Yagisan | I wanted a single sign on too, that's part of the reason my network is moving to thin clients | 03:59 |
| Yagisan | it's so much easier to administer *1* box | 03:59 |
| === Yagisan wishes he had a bigger network to play with | ||
| bmonty | the problem is that the ldap/kerberos stuff is a bitch to configure | 04:00 |
| bmonty | and there isn't good docs | 04:00 |
| Yagisan | I know :( and it's even worse if you need to integrate MS Active Directory into it | 04:01 |
| bmonty | I wanted it to work for my linux boxes first, and then I was going to try and get my wife's XP box in on the mix | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: the last time I tried (a few years ago to get a distinction for a networking course, it was a true pain in the arse, as the crap MS ADDC needed to be the master, with MSDNS) | 04:04 |
| bmonty | I've never tried to mix AD and anything else, but I know if your DNS isn't set up correctly AD will refuse to work | 04:05 |
| Yagisan | as it a) breaks the ldap spec, b) breaks the dns spec, c) breaks the kerberos spec | 04:05 |
| bmonty | and the DNS breakage can be very subtle | 04:05 |
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| bmonty | when you hold a monopoly...who needs specs? | 04:06 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: Personally, I'd like to see them help liable and punished effectively for their abuses, but as long as businesses have limited liablity | 04:07 |
| Yagisan | their will be no ethical behaviour from them | 04:08 |
| Yagisan | s/their/there | 04:08 |
| bmonty | except nobody cares, because there are only a very few people that care about integrating MS stuff with anything else | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: people like me, that do phased migrations away from their systems, care. We just don't get listened to. | 04:10 |
| bmonty | exactly, you are costing them money so it is not in MS's best interest to solve your issues | 04:11 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: yep, we are voting with out feet. They cost us money, now we are leaving - it's not in our best interests to continue with products that are not suitable for the intended job | 04:13 |
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| Yagisan | wow, timidity really uses a lot of cpu time | 04:25 |
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| lfittl | elektranox: do you have debian-policy installed? | 05:27 |
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| CGA | hi all | 09:24 |
| CGA | i'm trying to compile E17 and its libs from CVS on my system (ubuntu breezy) but i get an error when compiling evas (a EFL library) because it needs Xorg compiled with XShm.h , what can i do about it? why didn't you guys compile X with that header? -- i have already been in #ubuntu but didn't help much | 09:25 |
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| raphink | hi there | 09:48 |
| raphink | merry xmas everyone | 09:48 |
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| MasterC | hi :) | 10:07 |
| MasterC | when will the libdbus dependencies problems be fixed? | 10:08 |
| raphink | hi MasterC | 10:09 |
| MasterC | many packages (like banshee) are linked against libdbus1-1, but its not available | 10:09 |
| MasterC | in dapper | 10:09 |
| raphink | no idea | 10:10 |
| Burglaptop | MasterC: should be mostly solved now | 10:11 |
| MasterC | oh, I see | 10:11 |
| MasterC | banshee is fixed | 10:11 |
| MasterC | I tried it one hour ago, sry :) | 10:11 |
| MasterC | well done, thank you | 10:12 |
| MasterC | bye | 10:12 |
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| nomed | hi all | 11:46 |
| nomed | is there a tutorial to generate packages like ubuntu-artwork ? | 11:46 |
| nomed | i see that ubuntu has in roadmap to support somehow metaditros ... i would try to make my own artwork package trying to follow ubuntu "standards" .. | 11:47 |
| nomed | mainly for training ... | 11:48 |
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| Sepheebear | nomed: just d/l the ubuntu-artwork package and model yours off of that | 12:01 |
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