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apokryphostenshi: or just use the one that suits you best, disregarding prejudices ;-)12:00
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labandusok i've got it  thanks for your help apokryphos12:00
tenshihehe right ^^12:00
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no0ticapokryphos, with ctrl, alt, shift, works just fine, but Fn don't send keycodes12:00
apokryphosno0tic: odd. It should in theory take in any key-press that X recognises.12:01
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tenshii used k3b with gnome and it made my mouse lag12:01
no0ticapokryphos, I think12:01
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/268/screenshot14pr.png12:01
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soundrayI'm trying to bugfix a perl script that uses *= to assign a variable. What does this operator do?12:01
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Its not that noticeable with that GTK theme but its not gradient like the rest12:01
santa_shadoxvery merry X-mas all of you -XXX- -XXX-12:01
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toya__does my panel come with gnome or metacity?12:02
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: suffice it to say it looks perfect there 8)12:02
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toya__and how about the theme feature12:02
apokryphostoya__: metacity is the window manager -- gnome is the desktop environment.12:02
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: it looks a lot worse if I switch GTK themes12:02
tenshimy panel is located at the middle of my desktop at every startup, if a change its settings it goes back to the bottom, what might be wrong?12:02
chris_I need help installing AIM on Ubuntu 5.112:02
toya__apokryphos, how do i know which comes from which, im thinking abt switching to fvwm so i should know that12:02
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: it doesn't change with the opera theme12:03
chris_I know I can install GAIM but I prefer AIm12:03
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: it shouldn't actually change anything, in theory, unless you're running some kind of gtk2 engine. Opera is Qt.12:03
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chris_well not install GAIM, since it comes with 5.112:03
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I'm running Gnome though not KDE12:03
apokryphostoya__: which comes from which? What do you mean? The default WM in GNOME is metacity12:03
toya__chris_, just go to aim website and check in the download page if it has a linux version12:03
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: I know, but Opera uses Qt (on Linux, anyway), so GTK changes shouldn't really affect anything other than the window-decoration.12:04
toya__apokryphos, if i uninstall metacity do i still have the panel?12:04
tenshii have some problems with the gnome panel, can someone help me?12:04
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: See this screenshot for my problem12:04
toya__tenshi, maybe i can12:04
apokryphostoya__: oh, I wouldn't know; worth trying out. I don't use either of them :)12:04
chris_I've gone to AIM's site, but I confused on how to install12:04
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7965/screenshot25qa.png12:04
toya__apokryphos, ok thx12:04
chris_I'm quite new to linux12:05
toya__chris_, did you download the linux version?12:05
chris_2 days new in fact12:05
chris_yup12:05
toya__chris_, im like 4 days12:05
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: See?12:05
chris_the t.gz12:05
chris_oops12:05
toya__chris_, go to where the file is located12:05
chris_.tgz**12:05
tenshiok toya, at the startup my panels is located in the middle of the screen, if i change itsa settings it goes back to the bottom12:05
chris_yup12:05
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: I see. Time to whip out a bug report for the Opera guys =)12:05
tenshiwehat might be wrong?12:05
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toya__tenshi, a sec12:06
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I'm running that using --style default12:06
tenshisure12:06
toya__chris_, to install it12:06
chris_okayI'm there toya12:06
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toya__chris_, go to where it is12:06
chris_yup12:06
Agrajagchris_: AIM for linux is pretty useless12:06
Agrajagit's not a port of the windows version12:06
toya__chris_, umm12:06
toya__chris_, im not sure if its a tgz12:06
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: what happens if you just run opera directly?12:06
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Dr_WillisWell it can do messages :P12:06
rabbit1what's the best way to share a partition between linux/windows ??   (file system format) I mean..     can you do that?12:06
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: without any extra style options12:06
toya__chris_, does it have a readme in the site?12:06
dsasrabbit1: using ext2 or 312:07
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  depends on which way you want to share mainly.12:07
chris_sort of12:07
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: The line in the middle is huge and the menu's suck12:07
dsaswell sorry, fat is probably the best way12:07
chris_slight yet vague instructions12:07
rabbit1what do you mean Dr Willis?12:07
toya__tenshi, you can set it to stick to the left, right, bottom, up, when its expanded12:07
chris_I extraceted it in the terminal12:07
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: go for a bug report. Opera guys are very good with responding/acting on them =)12:07
rabbit1Can windows read ext2 or 3?12:07
toya__tenshi, when its not expanded if its pretty small you can drag and drop to move it around12:07
Agrajagyes12:07
chris_and tried to run it, but it won't work12:07
dsasrabbit1: only with an extra driver...12:07
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  with THIS it can ---> http://www.fs-driver.org/12:07
Dr_Willis:012:07
no0ticrabbit1, only with proper software12:07
tenshitoya: yes i think, mom, ill try ^^12:07
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toya__tenshi, not sure, but sometimes mine goes back for some weird reason12:08
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Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I've tried on the forums but they pretty much just say well use KDE12:08
rabbit1cool,  but fat32 without drivers???12:08
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: they're sounding like Linus ;-)12:08
rabbit1fat is supposedly less reliable compared with ntfs though right??   (this is just for data though)12:08
tenshitoya: i dont have any problems with the panel exapt at the very beginning12:08
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Yeah :(12:08
tenshitoya: there it is located in the middle of my desktop12:09
chris_I even tried to tranfer the files into the /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib directory12:09
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I don't like KDE's themes or window decorations so I don't use it :(12:09
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: forget the forum -- fill out a bug report.12:09
tenshitoya: for no visible reason12:09
chris_but it still doesn't work12:09
rabbit1 ??12:09
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apokryphosEvil_Whisper: there's many themes, though; you don't like them all? :)12:09
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: How would I do that?  It looks fine in KDE12:09
chris_Are you still there toya?12:09
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  if you want the linux Os to have full r/w access to the data - you will want either keep it on fat32, or keep it on the linux side and use that tool to let windows have full access to it.. So it all depends.12:09
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I've never found a nice window decoration12:09
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  which is why i said earlier -->  depends on which way you want to share mainly.12:09
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toya__tenshi, i set mine to not expand, it was like 80% wide of screen and i put it on bottom left and the little space left on bottom right i put another panel for my launchers that stick to the right sometime after i log in it goes to bottom middle and screw things up (overlap with my other panel)12:09
rabbit1I see12:09
dsasrabbit1: you can't write to ntfs using linux, except with captive-ntfs, which isn't really favoured.12:10
rabbit1yeah12:10
yuachtHow can i make ubuntu generate the sv_SE locale?12:10
rabbit1so I heard12:10
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: Knifty and Plastik are ok -- checked out those?12:10
toya__tenshi, as in middle middle or bottom middle?12:10
Evil_WhisperI'll check out Knifty12:10
rabbit1is fat32 okay reliability wise?12:10
tenshitoya: ubuntu forums told me to reset my12:10
tenshiups ^^12:10
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rabbit1win98 was on that right?12:10
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: for bug reports.... http://opera.com/support/bugs/12:10
tenshitoya: middle middle12:10
toya__tenshi, from what i tried is the aligning to the bottom, etc will work perfectly only if you set it to expand12:10
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I'm looking for a decoration like clearlooks or human12:10
rabbit1ntfs is supposed to be more reliable..12:10
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: suffice it to say there are loads of wide-ranging windecs out now, thanks to deKorator -- it's made it possible for *anyone* to trivially make a windec.12:10
rabbit1should I feel safe going with fat32 ?12:10
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rabbit1for data anyway?12:11
apokryphosrabbit1: yes12:11
toya__tenshi, you can drag and drop to move it if its not expanded12:11
rabbit1okay12:11
rabbit1thanks12:11
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Cool how much space does KDE take?12:11
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  if you want to keep your data safe -  you do not want to risk linux writuing to it from NTFS.. so either keep it on linux ext3, or fat3212:11
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apokryphosEvil_Whisper: few hundred I'd say.12:11
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apokryphosEvil_Whisper: you can have it on Ubuntu with one command =)12:11
jimferdHello.12:11
tenshitoya: im not quiet sure if i got this right, but thank you12:11
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Would It be possible to use konqueror in gnome?12:11
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toya__tenshi, sorry can't help much, you can try #gnome i guess12:11
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toya__tenshi, i won't bother coz im planning to get rid of it12:12
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Evil_Whisperapokryphos: For both filemanager, desktop, and browser?12:12
tenshitoya: thats good to know, thanks12:12
rabbit1thanks Dr. Willis.       what's the diff between ext2 and ext3 ??12:12
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: indeed, but if you're using Konqueror you're half way there, tbh ;-)12:12
sonics0000:02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000812:12
sonics <- linux knows I got this card, but it's not shown in my sounds settings. default soundcard box is empty ?12:12
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  use ext3 :)12:12
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m9dhatterdoes anyone have a handy pppoe reconnect script?12:12
Dr_Willisext2 + journeling = ext312:12
rabbit1why?  fat32 is easier?12:12
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I know i just prefer metacity and gnome panel over Kicker & KDEWM12:12
rabbit1what's journeling?12:12
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: yes, of course. Any KDE apps run under GNOME fine (if not as speedy, though).12:12
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Dr_Willisrabbit1,  now is the time to start reading some fundamentals of filesystems and Linux i think,. LOL.12:12
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Could konqueror be used to draw the desktop?12:13
chris_toya, did you forget about me?12:13
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: kicker with taskbar v2 and better icon set is quite good :P12:13
rabbit1haha, yeah probably... sorry12:13
Dr_Willisrabbit1,  its a very interesting topic. - What is this "critical" data anyway?12:13
jimferdI have a question: I'm installing something with Wine, and it's multiple CDs. I've made images of the CDs, but how would I mount them so that I can use all four of them? The installer doesn't give me the option to point to where the next files are located, so I have no idea what to do.12:13
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apokryphosEvil_Whisper: nope, the WM does that.12:13
rabbit1just regular data, haha12:13
Dr_Willisjimferd,   it dosent even ask for you to change cd's ?12:13
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: I'll show you my kicker screeny, for example :P12:13
jimferdIt does ask me to change CDs, yes12:14
jimferdSo the first CD works fine, but I can't give it the second one12:14
`Uncle`I am TOTALLY new to learning linux.. and i want to try out ubuntu.. is this a good Distro for a TOTAL new user of linux?12:14
`Uncle`I am TOTALLY new to learning linux.. and i want to try out ubuntu.. is this a good Distro for a TOTAL new user of linux?12:14
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: ok12:14
rabbit1yeah Uncle!12:14
jimferdUncle: Yes, it's very good.12:14
KurtKraut`Uncle` Yes, it is. But never repeat your messages in a brief time.12:14
rabbit1heh12:14
Dr_Willisjimferd,  then unmount the cd.. pop in 2nd cd.. mount it.. and hit ok.. You may need to disable all the auto-mounting feature of ubuntu/gnome.12:14
`Uncle`sorry12:14
jimferdI have ISOs of them too, but I also have the cds.12:15
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Gatoradeok I'm gonna create a second partition running ubuntu if anyone has anything to say say it now12:15
`Uncle`Is there a way i can "try" it, instead of just downloading it and having to clear out the whole windows?12:15
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jimferdI tried to unmount the cds, but it said device was busy.12:15
`Uncle`Also, how do i "create" a partition12:15
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  check out the Ubuntu Live cd.. and other live cd's12:15
jimferdUncle: Try a live CD, if they have one.12:15
GatoradeGood quesion Uncle!!12:15
GatoradeI've been trying ask that all day12:15
jimferdUncle: When you install Linux, it will allow you to create partitions (or even do it for you) for your Linux installation12:15
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jimferdHow do I disable the automount?12:15
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: http://giannaros.org/kicker.jpg12:16
Dr_WillisGatorade,  normally You would resize your existing partitions to free up some 'unallocated' space on the hd.. then let the installer partion it.12:16
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: 404 Not Found12:16
Dr_Willisthe installer may be able to resize  - not sure. Never tried it that way :P12:16
rabbit1it can12:16
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: whoops, ok -- retry12:16
rabbit1it can resize....12:16
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: the mini-screenies of apps on hover is actually quite handy12:16
rabbit1but defragment your drive first!12:17
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jimferdAre you sure? I don't think the installer can resize an already-existing partition.12:17
rabbit1yeah.... hang on12:17
jimferdI'd be really worried about that.12:17
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: I'll give KDE a try12:17
apokryphos=)12:17
DonVincenzoWhen I close a session I go back to a blank screen instead of the login screen, since I installed the proprietary ATI drivers. Can anyone help me ?12:17
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: I gotta dash for a bit now, but be sure to come to #kubuntu to let us know what you think and/or any problems/issues you have :)12:17
Evil_Whisperapokryphos: Is it possible to maintain the Ubuntu Boot Splash?12:17
Evil_Whisperok12:17
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rabbit1resize windows ntfs partition:     step 7.2:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo12:18
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apokryphosEvil_Whisper: very easily. Just keep ubuntu-artwork-splash (and don't install kubuntu-artwork-splash)12:18
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rabbit1*might not work, see down the page12:18
`Uncle`what is a .iso file? (i am going to download the live cd)12:19
jimferdAn ISO file is an image of a CD.12:19
GatoradeIs 10.28 GB enough space to run linux?12:19
toya__`Uncle`, its a cd image12:19
Gatoradeon another partion12:19
jimferdHeck yes.12:19
`Uncle`image?12:19
jimferdGatorade: Yes, that's more than enough12:19
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Gatoradecool12:19
`Uncle`Why do i want to download a IMAGE of a cd12:19
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jimferdGatorade: I would recommend at least 2GB, but the more the merrier.12:19
toya__`Uncle`, its not 'picture' image12:19
jimferdBecause then you can burn that on a real CD, gatorade12:19
jimferder Uncle, not gatorade12:20
toya__`Uncle`, its basicly a file of what a cd is like12:20
rabbit1so jimferd, I think you can resize partitions...    according to that install guide12:20
`Uncle`Ok..12:20
jimferdUncle: It's basically a CD that's on your hard drive. It's all the data on a CD.12:20
toya__rabbit1, yes you can12:20
jimferdOk cool rabbit112:20
Smerdykovdoes anyone know where I can find a windows support channel...?12:20
Smerdykov*SHUN'D*12:20
rabbit1:P12:20
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jimferdProbibly not on a Ubuntu server12:21
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`Uncle`Ok, so when i downloaded the .iso file for one of the live cds12:21
`Uncle`now what12:21
Smerdykovyeah I just figured this was a good place to ask12:21
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Smerdykovbecause chances are most of you have dealt with windows and its shit in the past12:21
rabbit1gatorade: live cds: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php12:21
GatoradeMy live CD wouldn't run my mouse12:21
jimferdUncle: Burn it on a CD with Nero, or whatever CD burning software you have.12:21
madars_hello all12:21
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  use a program like 'burn at once' to burn it to a cd.12:21
jimferdAnd ba-zing.12:21
madars_i am from latvia12:21
madars_:)12:21
Smerdykovdude12:21
jimferdCool.12:21
SmerdykovI met a latvian girl once12:22
Smerdykovshe was uber hot12:22
Smerdykovwhat's the hotness percentage over there/12:22
madars_i want ask you-all who distribution you use12:22
madars_?12:22
Gatoradethanks rabbit!12:22
jimferdAll Latvian girls are super hot, duh.12:22
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads12:22
jimferdmadars_ : Ubunto 5.1012:22
`Uncle`ok and whats that12:22
madars_:)12:22
Dr_Willisa program to burn isos to cd :P12:22
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SmerdykovI'm so going to latvia...12:22
GatoradeKnoppix is the most popular right?12:22
jimferdBurn-At-Once is a free cd burning software to put your ISO onto the CD.12:22
madars_hm latvian girl is hot but latvian girls is only for latvian man12:23
madars_:DD12:23
tescoilFriend has some linux source that's screwing up in compile evidently because it was written on a MS platform (DOS line breaks)...12:23
Smerdykovdude12:23
SmerdykovI could pull off the latvian shit12:23
Smerdykov...12:23
Smerdykovexcept I don't speak latvian12:23
Dr_Willistescoil,  there are dos2linux converter tools out that remove the CR/LF issues12:23
madars_;)12:23
tescoilDr_Willis: thas what I was askin.12:23
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madars_Smerdykov, for where you are?12:24
madars_from12:24
tescoilIs that standard onboard stuff?12:24
Smerdykovalaska12:24
jimferdSoviet Russia!12:24
jimferdClose enough12:24
SmerdykovAHHH MOTHERLAND12:24
jimferdBut I am le tired.12:24
SmerdykovI wish I was from soviet russia12:24
`Uncle`Dr_Willis12:24
Smerdykovthat's where I stole this awesome name12:24
toya__lol?12:24
`Uncle`What is burnatonce12:24
jendaNo you do not...12:24
SmerdykovPWND12:24
jimferdThen take a nap - and FIRE ZE MISSLES.12:24
Dr_Willistescoil,  depending on the exact issue. theres proberly a dozen examples you can google that do the job in  perl, or a shell script, or other ways.. its a common 'issue' then theres the dos2unix tools.12:24
jendalol12:24
jimferdBurnatonce is a program that will burn an ISO onto a cd.12:24
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Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  a program to burn isos to cd :P12:24
toya__but im le tired12:25
`Uncle`Ok..12:25
Smerdykovthat was probably the funniest flash animation ever12:25
AndyRlo all12:25
Dr_Willisfor the 3rd time :P12:25
jimferdYou'll download the Live CD ISO, then use BurnAtOnce to burn it onto a CD.12:25
madars_Smerdykov, give me link to flash12:25
Smerdykovgod I want linux12:25
Smerdykovit's on ebaumsworld.com12:25
Smerdykovit's called end of the world12:25
tescoilDr_Willis: tnx12:25
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jimferdLinux makes me happy.12:25
madars_ok12:25
rabbit1has anyone here used Fedora?    and how do you think it compares to Ubuntu??12:25
jimferdIt's basically the key to success in life.12:25
Smerdykovlinux makes me...other things12:25
linkdjimferd: i know the feeling :P12:25
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MagicTimgreetings to you all - im a total newbie but popped in to say hi12:26
jimferdI've used Fedora. Ubuntu is better because it contains less crap and is more user-friendly.12:26
jimferdHello MagicTim.12:26
jimferdWhat's goin' on ?12:26
toya__jimferd have you used slackwar and gentoo?12:26
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SmerdykovI decided on ubuntu over fedora last night for that very reason12:26
MagicTimnot much12:26
MagicTimjust finished my ubuntu install so am rather chuffed12:26
johndarkhorseMagicTim: is that like polished?12:26
SmerdykovI can't name any other distros besides ubuntu and redhat12:26
MagicTimyeah!12:27
`Uncle`I have a question - once i have linux downloaded, what IRC client do i use12:27
jimferdMy favorite is Ubuntu12:27
jimferdUncle: X-Chat.12:27
`Uncle`Can i still use Nonamescript, or do i have to run one for linux12:27
toya__`Uncle`, xchat12:27
jimferdOr BitchX12:27
Smerdykovyour friendly mIRC12:27
`Uncle`X-chat.. ugh12:27
linkd`Uncle`: whatever u like, xchat is the most popular one hto12:27
gnomefreakxchat,bitchx,irssi12:27
yatesyyea right :P12:27
tenshiuse the preinstalled ^^12:27
rabbit1are those console apps?12:28
SmerdykovI thought mIRC was the pwn0rs12:28
gnomefreaktheres about 30 of them :(12:28
yatesylast 2 are12:28
Smerdykovgod I feel like a nerd, I'm starting to talk liek one12:28
jimferdUncle: you'll likely want to stick with x-Chat -- it's the easiest.12:28
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yatesymIRC sucks ass12:28
`Uncle`Ok...12:28
tenshiwhat means pwn0rs??12:28
gnomefreakmirc isnt on linux12:28
toya__lol12:28
jimferdmIRC: By terrorists, is terrible.12:28
yatesyAndyR: unlucky :P12:28
Smerdykovoh rly?12:28
`Uncle`And i have to run firefox, dont i?12:28
`Uncle`Instead of internet explorer12:28
jimferdOr Opera12:28
SmerdykovI was under the impression mIRC was the best, for beginners at least12:28
jimferdYes, no IE on Linux.12:28
yatesyhahaha12:28
toya__`Uncle`, firefox owns12:28
Smerdykovshould I uprgrade12:28
jimferdJesus, why would you WANT to run IE?12:28
`Uncle`Ok.....12:28
gnomefreakm in mIRC = microcrap i mean soft12:28
tenshihey, pls tell me... what does pw0ners mean ^^12:28
Dr_WillisFirefox truely blows away IE.12:28
toya__`Uncle`, just don't use 1.5 yet12:28
jimferdI ran Firefox on Windows, too.12:28
yatesy`Uncle`: linux isn't windows pal :P12:28
jimferdOh without doubt, firefox is amazing.12:29
Smerdykovmaybe he wants spyware12:29
`Uncle`Ok....12:29
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AndyRwhats so wrong with xchat?12:29
jimferdYeah, Uncle: He's absolutely right. Linux is not Windows. It's very different.12:29
gnomefreakyou dont HAVE to use FF12:29
rabbit1it says to use XChat on the ubuntu site12:29
`Uncle`Ok,.12:29
linkdi want IE on linux, so i can use it for testing of sites and javascript compatibility12:29
Smerdykovit doesnt fuck up your homebuild12:29
`Uncle`What comes installed WITH unbuntu12:29
Dr_WillisI even use Xchat Under windows.12:29
`Uncle`firefox.. xchat12:29
linkdbut i have no desire to use it for other than that.12:29
toya__linkd, download ie tab extension12:29
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Smerdykovyou could run VMware or something12:29
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linkdtoya__: for linux firefox? o012:29
toya__linkd, firefox is firefox12:30
gnomefreakDr_Willis,  so do i since i found the free Xchat for win12:30
jimferdUncle: Lots of stuff. Also, it's got a cool package manager thing: you type in what you want, it downloads it and installs it for you.12:30
madars_which is the best alternative of windows media player in linux? i want wach video in ebaumsworld.com but i cant12:30
RossHwhyoe12:30
AndyRi used to dual boot linux/windows but i have fully dumped windows now12:30
toya__madars_, arent they in flash?12:30
linkdtoya__: yes but im drawing a distinction between a ported version of IE within firefox and firefox using activex IE on windows.12:30
toya__i would use vlcplayer12:30
rem_use xine madars or totem with xine plug ..12:30
toya__its pretty amazing12:30
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Dr_Willisvlc is dang handy12:30
toya__linkd, dual boot?12:30
rem_reads just about anything ..12:30
toya__even unfinished file really well12:31
toya__ok guys poll, xmmx vs mplayer12:31
toya__xmms**12:31
linkdtoya__: yes... but thats not what i said, i would rather not be rebooting to play with changes.. thus i would want IE on linux12:31
linkdtoya__: which doesnt exist ;)12:31
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gnomefreakbrb gotta try to send a bug12:31
Dr_Willistoya__,  they are sort of made for diffrent things. :p12:31
rem_linkd -> did yuo try with "Wine" ..?12:32
no0tictoya__, different things ;)12:32
toya__oh yea wine12:32
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SmerdykovI hate to ask again12:32
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Smerdykovbut can anyone direct me to a channel populated with people who could possibly assist me with windows crap12:33
Gatoradelol12:33
gnomefreak#windows12:33
`Uncle`Whats wine12:33
Smerdykovhmm12:33
Smerdykovgracias12:33
gnomefreakyw12:33
Smerdykovsoon I will wash my hands of this infernal OS12:33
rem_Wine is a program to emulate windows apps ..12:33
toya__`Uncle`, windows emulator to run windows programs12:33
`Uncle`Oooo12:33
`Uncle`i think id like that lol12:33
kaffeendare we still using wine?12:33
GatoradeHow do I convert a torrnet to an iso file??12:33
toya__whats a tornet -.-"?12:34
kaffeendlol12:34
toya__torrent?12:34
`Uncle`And i heard linux can run servers (irc servers) from your home internet box?12:34
GatoradeI tried downloading Knoppix and it only let me download a torrent of it lol12:34
toya__`Uncle`, not necessarily linux i think12:34
m9dhatterGatorade: you cannot convert a torrent to an iso file. it was not meant for that12:34
`Uncle`oh12:34
Smerdykovwow12:34
toya__Gatorade, torrent is used by bittorrent programs12:34
no0tic`Uncle`, not only linux :)12:34
toya__hard to explain12:34
linkdrem_: i would want a native port, incidently no it doesnt run in wine12:34
Smerdykovthe windows channel is dead12:34
GatoradeSo how am I supposed to burn it then toya??12:35
toya__wiki bittorrent12:35
Gatoradeas a live cd12:35
rem_gatorade ... try linuxiso.org or distrowatch.org ...they should have links to .iso ..12:35
toya__bittorrent is like a p2p program12:35
Smerdykovlinux, how I pine for thee12:35
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`Uncle`ohGrrrr12:35
`Uncle`This is confusin'12:35
no0tic`Uncle`, what's confusing?12:35
kaffeendwhat's up, Uncle?12:35
toya__i really want an explanation of slackware vs gentoo12:36
`Uncle`Dad is trying to explain how to boot from CD12:36
`Uncle`and he has no idea how to run linux12:36
rem_thats the best I can think of ..12:36
Smerdykovhow long do those damn ubuntu cds take12:36
eobanbtoya__, it comes down to both philosophical differences and technical ones.12:36
rem_...or run a 2nd windows box and terminal server into it ...12:36
toya__eobanb, do you know if apps in gentoo only come in portage?12:36
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leagriskkou12:36
mweand gentoo is source based whereas slack is not12:36
toya__eobanb, coz i dont want to compile all the time12:36
no0ticSmerdykov, what's the problem?12:36
eobanbtoya__, then gentoo is probably not for you.12:37
no0ticmwe, well also slackware was built :)12:37
kaffeendwow - installing Ubuntu really is a straight forward affair... and I'm a complete n00b! :P12:37
`Uncle`Is xchat\mozilla firefox included in the packages thing??12:37
mweno0tic: yes, and windows12:37
toya__`Uncle`, yeah12:37
eobanbkaffeend, glad to hear you were successful12:37
leagrismerry Christmass to all ubuntu man and girls12:37
no0ticmwe, :)12:37
toya__merry christmas 2u212:37
`Uncle`Ok..12:37
`Uncle`what else12:37
`Uncle`is wine?12:37
kaffeendeobanb I was successful TWICE :D12:37
toya__`Uncle`, so do you know how to rune the live cd again?12:37
eobanb`Uncle`, what software are you interested in?12:37
eobanbwine does not come installed, but it is available from the repository.12:37
Gatoradeugh Why can't I get a Knoppix live cd iso?? :(12:38
toya__`Uncle`, if you're a noob like me, don't switch to linux right away12:38
kaffeendI stuffed up my first install lol12:38
`Uncle`Im not toya12:38
`Uncle`im making a live cd disk12:38
rem_gatorade ... try linuxiso.org or distrowatch.org ...they should have links to .iso ..12:38
Gatoradethanks12:38
rem_for knoppix12:38
toya__`Uncle`, oh, i thought you were asking how to boot from cd12:38
`Uncle`No i know how to configure to do thta12:38
no0ticleagris, Gatorade you can download from bittorrent12:38
no0ticleagris, sorry :)12:38
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mweor knoppix.net12:39
kaffeendword of advice to anyone installing or about to install Ubuntu - Read12:39
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no0ticGatorade, there's gnome-bittorrent to help you downloading with bittorrent12:39
`Uncle`Read where?12:39
leagrisAbout wine, ther is no wine package for amd64, is that a compatibility problem or something else ?12:40
kaffeendUncle - have you heard of a wonderful thing called Google? Type "Ubuntu" into it and see what happens when you hit Enter ;)12:40
mweyet anohter place to find knoppix is http://www.google.com/search?q=knoppix12:40
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no0ticleagris, wine is based on dll libraries, compiled for i38612:40
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philvI hear Linux can be used to run servers.12:40
philvIs this true?12:41
Pabloo.O12:41
Pablono philv12:41
leagrisno0tic, I thout amd64 could rune i386 code ?12:41
Pablothats a lie12:41
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no0ticleagris, yes12:41
kaffeendphilv even windows can run servers12:41
philvleagris: yes it can.12:41
Smerdykovcouldn't anything run a server, conceivably12:41
goodiI try to get TwinView (dualscreen) to work, so far both screens are working at the "login screen" after that only one is activated - any hints and suggestions?12:41
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Pablohaha Dr_Willis12:41
Smerdykovlol12:41
no0ticleagris, but you wouldn't find an i386 under 64bit repositories12:41
HymnToLifethat must rule12:42
philvkaffeend: I think servers are best run on VMS for security purposes.12:42
mwephilv: actually *nix, including linux was designed to run servers12:42
no0ticphilv, VMS = Virtual machines?12:42
philvNo.12:42
rem_openbsd is not bad either :P12:42
philvno0tic: VMS = DEC's OS for VAX and Alpha hardware.12:43
kaffeendwhatever that means :/12:43
no0ticphilv, ah ok I heard about it12:43
philvmwe: Actually, it was designed for timeshare.12:43
philvmwe: and Linux started out as a terminal emulator.12:43
mweopenbsd bah. freebsd or netbsd :)12:43
Pablodec's are outdated philv12:44
philvBSD is dead.12:44
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philvPablo: You can also run it on Itanium hardware.12:44
PabloDEC IS DEAD12:44
philvPablo: on the latest Integrity servers from HP.12:44
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PabloVMS is dead12:44
Pablobsd isnt12:44
kaffeend!wine12:44
rem_yea..dec seems more dead than bsd ... :P12:44
mwephilv: um. you're saying unix is not designed to run servers?12:44
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philvmwe: Originally it was designed for timeshare on DEC PDP-11 hardware.12:44
Pabloso whats your point?12:44
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philvPablo: VMS is about as dead as BSD is... i.e. quite active.12:45
philvEspecially in legacy markets.12:45
no0ticmwe, ok, what "designed" means for you?12:45
Madeyeguys  after resizing windows C:\ I   got grub error 17, what should I do ?12:45
Dr_WillisMinix !  :P CP/M !12:45
ssstormyhello, I'm a little stuck.  I'm trying to set up a BIND server, using WebMin and following a tuturial.  I added a master zone, and was instructed to add various records, only I can't figure out how the heck to add those records...12:45
philvno0tic: Targetted origianlly, or a purpose originally.12:45
mwephilv: I see12:45
Dr_WillisMadeye,  you made a new partition after the c: now?12:45
MadeyeDr_Acemaster, yes12:45
HymnToLifeMadeye > maybe reinstalling grub...12:45
Dr_WillisMadeye, yep.. you confuised gnome. :P12:45
no0ticphilv, I think so, but mwe doesn't12:46
philvUNIX started out as a timeshare system designed by Bell Labs to compete with MULTICS after they dropped out of the alliance.12:46
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Dr_Willisit is now off by 1 drive when looking for things.12:46
no0ticphilv, you are right12:46
Dr_Williswell one 'partition' :P12:46
philvPablo: The license is free.12:46
philvPablo: as long as it isn't for commercial purposes.12:46
MadeyeDr_Willis,  what shall I do ?12:46
philvAnd the media kits are about 20 bucks.12:46
no0ticphilv, but what does it concern with linux running servers?12:46
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MadeyeHymnToLife, I did that throu rescue mode, but didn't help12:46
mweno0tic: unix was not built to be run on personal desktops, but to run on the heavy server hardware of the older days12:46
lamp_how can i scan on a reiserfs partition for bad blocks12:46
Pablohow old are you philv ?12:46
ssstormyis anyone familiar with BIND, that can help me out of this jam?12:46
sproingieunix was meant to run on the small server hardware like the pdp712:46
philvmwe: Broaden your horizons a bit.12:46
no0ticmwe, yes, ok, what server mean :)12:47
leagrislamp_, reiserfsck12:47
sproingieas opposed to the massive iron of a multics system12:47
philvsproingie: You're dumb, because that's an 18-bit machine12:47
Dr_WillisMadeye,  well if ya knew the basics of gnome.. ya could edit the grub menu entrys and change the hd(0,0) and so forth to the right numbers.12:47
no0ticmwe, philv you both are right :)12:47
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Dr_WillisMadeye,  oops I meant the basics of GRUB.12:47
philv...12:47
sproingiephilv: compared to multics hardware, a pdp is small fry12:47
philvsproingie: yes, but it never ran on a PDP-712:47
ssstormyDr_Acemaster, the numbers are easy12:47
Dr_WillisMadeye,  then edit the grub config file to make it permenant.12:47
MadeyeDr_Willis, thats it ? lemme try12:47
philvTHere was no memory protection on them.12:47
ssstormyif it's disk 1, you put disk 012:47
philvIt only ran on later PDP-11 models.12:47
Dr_Willisssstormy,  yea - you explain it to him. Lol.. I always get confused..12:47
ssstormyif it's partition 3, you put partition 212:47
philvAnd eventually spread like a virus to othe rplatforms.12:47
leagrislamp_, but if the disk has physical damages, you may better backup all readable ocntent and try to recover on a copy of the damaged filesystem12:47
MadeyeDr_Willis, menu.lst you mean?12:47
no0ticphilv, good history class12:48
Pablohow old are you philv ?12:48
lamp_leagris what options and how can i run it on my root partition.12:48
philvPablo: old enough to have programmed on a PDP-812:48
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`Uncle`What are some image extensions of linux (like .jpg, .jpeg) in windows12:48
Dr_WillisMadeye,  so you added a new partition, and grub starts counting at 0 (thats imporntatn to rember)12:48
philv`Uncle`: Same for Linux as it is Windows.12:48
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no0ticphilv, and you don't know if linux can run servers?12:48
Madeyeah i think I got it12:48
philvno0tic: I was being facetious.12:48
Madeyelemme apply change s12:48
`Uncle`Oh so linux has .jpg, .bmp and stuff?12:48
sproingiephilv: i don't feel the need to correct you when google can already present mountains of evidence12:48
philvsproingie: huh12:48
rem_same uncle ... mabye png a little more used ...12:48
ssstormy`Uncle`, they're all the same12:48
philvsproingie: you want to tell me that UNIX ran on a PDP-7?12:49
`Uncle`Ok.12:49
sproingiehttp://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/pdp7.html12:49
philvsproingie: because the PDP-7 in my basement says otherwise...12:49
HeartBTphilv, this is a support channel.12:49
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  thats more of just common practice in the names. os dosent matter.12:49
leagrislamp_, boot in single user, the mont / -oremount,ro (to remount it read only)12:49
no0ticphilv, ah :)12:49
`Uncle`Ok12:49
leagrislamp_, how did your disk get trashed ?12:49
philvsproingie: UNICS, a pun, and arguably a predescessor to UNIX, was written for the PDP-712:50
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`Uncle`Is there a "command prompt" in linux, as cmd.exe is in windows?12:50
philvsproingie: but it was written in Assembly for the PDP-7... so didn't meet any of the goals of UNIX.12:50
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sproingiephilv: oh jeez, your penis is bigger, you win12:50
ssstormy`Uncle`, you need to find somewhere to read about linux12:50
no0tic`Uncle`, the command prompt born on unix!12:50
rem_ssstromy get a better tutorial from google .. :P from personal experience i thought it easier in command line than through webmin ..12:50
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  i think its time to start reading some fundamental linux tutorials.12:50
philvsproingie: Not going for penis is bigger... I'm just correcting misinformation, that's all12:50
rem_for BIND ..12:50
`Uncle`i googed unbuntu on google...12:50
no0tic`Uncle`, it's very the time12:50
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johnfhi12:51
Dr_Willis`Uncle`,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php12:51
`Uncle`Ok thanks12:51
lamp_leagris it has bad blocks, i think after transported my computer in a car12:51
no0tic`Uncle`, most linux machines don't even have a graphic interface12:51
johnfhow can i change the permissions of a file?12:51
concept10`Uncle`, please remove ` from your name. :)12:51
no0tic`Uncle`, only terminal12:51
`Uncle`Why concept12:51
leagriswow philv I admire your long unix experience. How do you feel confortable or how do you enjoy linux and ubuntu12:51
no0ticconcept10, great thing :)12:51
Dreamglideri need help, i updated ubuntu and after that i can only see ubuntu in GRUB, i have Windowsxp and fedora installed allso12:51
Dreamgliderhttp://pastebin.com/47797912:51
ssstormy`Uncle`, here.  Just for you.  http://www.tldp.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/intro.html12:51
concept10`Uncle`, you should read RUTE12:52
leagrislamp_, so you should not try to repair the filesystem in place on the damaged disk12:52
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concept10its a very great book12:52
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rem_you can man chmod or chmod --help for help ..12:52
scanwinderhow do i get something to start when x startx?12:52
no0tic`Uncle`, are too unconfortable to write :)12:52
johnfany idear on how to change permissions of a file????????12:52
scanwinderoops i mean starts12:52
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no0tic`Uncle`, and ` has a particular meaning on shell12:53
Dreamgliderthis is how my disks are setup http://pastebin.com/477979 how can i get windows and fedora back in grub ?12:53
lamp_leagris i think the drive can stil be verry usefull, bad blocks in windows are not growing12:53
leagrislamp_, get a spare disk at least the same size (bigger doesn't matter) the copy damaged disk blocks by blocks to the new one then mount the copy of the damaged filesystem on the new disk12:53
HymnToLifejohnf > right click > properties...12:53
concept10What was his original complaint?12:53
sproingie`uncle` is obviously the infix form of uncle12:53
ssstormyjohnf, "man chmod" or "chmod --help"12:53
Dr_Willisjohnf,   http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php  time to learn the shell basics I think12:53
rem_hmm..that might be easier i guess Hymn ,.. :P12:53
johnfyeh but there not assesible it wont let me click on them12:53
gnomefreakhow do the devlopers define critical?12:53
ssstormyjohnf, get yourself onto a terminal12:53
Dr_Willisjohnf,  what exactly are you trying to change anyway?12:54
lamp_leagris i'm going to try12:54
toya__for mounting ntfs in fstab do i put 222 or 000 for umask?12:54
no0ticsproingie, what does infix mean?12:54
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ssstormygnomefreak, probably the ones that would make your system burst into flames if not fixed12:54
`Uncle`k...12:54
HymnToLifejohnf > then it is owned by root and you'd better not touch it12:54
scanwinderhow do i get stuff to start when x starts in ubuntu?????  in other distro's i was able to put commands in .xinitrc but that file dosent exist in ubuntu12:54
ssstormytoya__, put umask=022212:54
leagrislamp_, if you enjoy dangerous things, so : do a smart test do your disk with the tool named smartctl, then the disk shoud mark and relocate bad blocks if it can12:54
gnomefreakssstormy,  cant blow it up if you cant install it12:54
gnomefreaklol12:54
johnfbut i logged in as root and it still wont let me chnage it12:54
gnomefreakkinda give and take there12:54
no0ticscanwinder, have you tried creating it?12:54
toya__ssstormy, ok i'll try, because last time i put 222 it screws up12:54
HymnToLifereminds me of the guy who tried sudo chmod -R +w /proc/* :p12:54
Dr_Willisscanwinder,  .xinitrc is only read by when you do 'startx'  each window maanger/desktop normally has its own methiod of saving 'sessions' to restart things.12:55
sproingieno0tic: it's haskell humor ... don't worry bout it12:55
toya__ssstormy, and its working fine with 000 now12:55
ssstormygnomefreak, :)  nah just extremely high priority.  system has major error/weakeness with the bug12:55
Dr_Willisscanwinder,  with gnome you can start the stuff.. and 'save session' and it should rember.12:55
gnomefreaki got it ty12:55
ssstormytoya__, I use 000 too but the help manual said use 022212:55
ssstormyI used 000 cause I was trying to get write access12:55
scanwinderDr_Willis: ok - im not using gnome tho.....openbox...ill ask in its irc channel then....thanks12:55
toya__how come my gaim always starts at startup even though its not in my start up programs list12:55
toya__ssstormy, ok ic12:55
ssstormybut it won't allow write access no matter what12:55
no0ticsproingie, I'm not english mother tongue.. worse luck12:56
Dr_Willisscanwinder,  the differnet XXX box's have their own way :P correct. time to RTFM12:56
ssstormytoya__, gaim will auto start if it was open when you last shut down12:56
toya__ssstormy, just set it to rw i guess12:56
vexenhello guys! Can someone point me to a good howto on setting up my ubuntu server as bluetooth gateway? I've googled and found some, none of them worked..12:56
no0ticscanwinder, try creating i12:56
toya__ssstormy, but writing to ntfs is not safe12:56
no0ticscanwinder, try creating it12:56
ssstormytoya__, no you can't write to ntfs period12:56
scanwinderno0tic: ok12:56
ssstormyat least not as far as I know, not under ubuntu12:56
toya__ssstormy, you can but it might screw the partition up12:56
ssstormytoya__, you can?  how do you force it?12:57
toya__ssstormy, no i dont save sessions when i shut down12:57
toya__ssstormy, i highly disrecommend it (is that a word)?12:57
gnomefreak!ntfs12:57
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:57
toya__ssstormy, just make it to rw12:57
ssstormytoya__, does that actually work?12:57
sproingieyou can write to ntfs ... but not out of the box12:57
FelaKutintfs at best will be 55512:57
johnfbut i logged in as root and it still wont let me chnage it12:57
johnfany ideas12:57
toya__ssstormy, never tried, not sure12:57
kaffeend!ati12:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:58
toya__!panel12:58
ubotutoya__: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:58
toya__!fvwm12:58
ubotutoya__: I give up, what is it?12:58
toya__...12:58
sproingieyou can enable ntfs write support in your kernel, but it only lets you change the content of existing files12:58
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sproingieand they can't be small files stored in the mft12:58
gnomefreakwhat are you looking for from ubotu?12:58
toya__sproingie, is it safe?12:58
gnomefreak!botsnack12:58
ubotuthanks gnomefreak :)12:58
toya__lol12:59
toya__!botsnack12:59
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gnomefreak:))12:59
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sproingietoya__: yes, but not that useful for sharing data with windows.  topologilinux uses it to write to a loopback filesystem on the windows drive12:59
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toya__sproingie, ic01:00
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HeartBTWhich shouls I install to avoid the bloat, kde-base or kde-core?01:00
sproingieHeartBT: xfce01:00
gnomefreakHeartBT, kde is all bloat01:00
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sproingieHeartBT: what i do is install kubuntu-desktop, then remove it and any packages i don't want01:01
ssstormygnomefreak, gnome isn't too light either01:01
HeartBTsproingie, yeah, yeah, I am on xfce, and I've been round that bock, kwin is still the best WM IMO01:01
gnomefreakgo with xfce its bigger than say blackbox but lighter than gnome/kde01:01
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gnomefreakssstormy, yes i know01:01
toya__what is bloat?01:01
gnomefreakbloat= heavy01:01
ssstormytoya__, extra junk01:01
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sproingieHeartBT: hell yes.   konq's nice too01:01
gnomefreakcrap ull never need sorta like windows :( lol sorry had to01:02
ssstormylike if your body started ballooing outward01:02
HymnToLifeyeah, KDE apps are great01:02
ssstormyyou'd be said to be "bloated"01:02
apokryphosno, KDE is not bloat. I'd like to hear an argument for it being bloated, though.01:02
MadeyeDr_Willis, hmm I'm not able to edit the menu.ls in rescue mood, I can open it but No access to write on it. getitng error after sudo vim menu.lst 'sudo: unable to get ubuntu via gethostbyname()01:02
funkyHathi... I messed up my grub :( I don't know how... I have a separate boot partition (hda2) and / is hda11 (??Yeah I know).... can someone correct my menu.lst if I pastebin it?01:02
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HymnToLifek3b is a damn sigh better than gnomebaker01:02
sproingiek3b's a qt app, not really kde per se01:02
HeartBTsproingie,I love konq, I just wished it worked with my webmail.01:02
gnomefreakHymnToLife,  i agree and i use it but never use kde01:02
apokryphossproingie: no, it *is* a KDE app01:02
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HymnToLifegnomefreak > same here :p01:02
sproingieapokryphos: it uses kde libs now?01:02
apokryphossproingie: it always has01:03
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wpc11v3I really need help please :(  I'm trying to get wifi to work on my laptop... It's been months now ... I've bought new hardware (WPC11v3 as http://osunix.com/?p=4 says it should work out of the box) ...01:03
Dreamglidercan i have grub scan my disks for os'es ?01:03
KnowerrorsAny people here that have Midi working?  I do but am looking to improve performance for playback, uses way too much cpu01:03
HeartBTso, core or base?01:03
gnomefreakDreamglider,  it does during install01:03
funkyHathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/613301:03
apokryphosHeartBT: what webmail doesn't it work with?01:03
HeartBTanyone know which is bigger?01:03
sproingieHeartBT: it all depends what you want in kde01:03
funkyHatI get error 15 (cannot find file)01:03
gnomefreakyou might beable to run update-grub not sure if it looks again tho01:03
sproingieHeartBT: they're both meta packages.  expand them and see what depends on what01:03
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HeartBTsproingie,  I'll add what I need, it's easier to add than to remove.01:04
Dreamglidergnomefreak, i'm not installing any os, i updated ubuntu and it messed up grub menu01:04
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wpc11v3can people see my messages?01:04
nima_hello...how can i upgrade my current version of ubuntu to Breezy?01:04
toya__synaptic package manager is exact gui version of apt-get is that right?01:04
HeartBTyes, depends, just thought someone would know off he top/01:04
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sproingieHeartBT: kdelibs will give you the basics you need.  then install kde apps one at a time01:04
apokryphosHeartBT: they're around the same -- which one was larger wouldn't mean much at all. The things that go in there are down to the selection of a few people in both cases.01:04
gnomefreakubotu tell nima about upgrade01:04
funkyHatah... problem isn't grub.... I think my / died! :|01:04
apokryphosBest guide:01:04
apokryphos!installingkde01:04
ubotuapokryphos: No idea01:04
apokryphosgah01:04
apokryphoshttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE01:04
gnomefreaknima_,  you didnt get that pm did you?01:05
toya__nima_, could you be someone i know?01:05
HeartBTsproingie, apokryphos thanks, bbiab01:05
Dreamglidertoya__,  you do a dist-upgrade01:05
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gnomefreakubotu tell nima_  about upgrade01:05
HymnToLife!pastebin01:05
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:05
wpc11v3can people see me?01:05
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Dreamgliderwpc11v3,  yes01:05
apokryphosHeartBT: if you want to get KDE now, though, I'd recommend you get the latest stable -- kde 3.5. In which case you'll need to add an extra repo.01:05
PabloI wonder if wpc11v3 is here01:05
gnomefreaknima_,  the instructions are there in the pm ubotu sent you01:05
toya__wpc11v3, no i cant =D01:05
HeartBTwpc11v3, yes, your fears are unfounded :)01:05
HeartBTapokryphos, go on, I'm listening.01:06
wpc11v3sorry...  I'm new to all this..  I'm on the edge of frustration and was unsure if I had to "register" ...01:06
apokryphos!kde 3.501:06
ubotufrom memory, kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:06
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no0ticwpc11v3, yes, it's better ;)01:06
gnomefreak!register01:06
uboturegister is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))01:06
ssstormyI get this error when trying to run the gnome-help app:01:06
ssstormygnome-help: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:06
ssstormyanyone know which package has that file?01:06
funkyHatohhhhhh.... I figured it out :)01:07
no0ticssstormy, firefox01:07
apokryphosssstormy: firefox01:07
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funkyHatWINDOZE played about with my partition table :@01:07
gnomefreakssstormy,  its a gtk firefox library01:07
Angel666Dapper has wanted to remove HAL and Dbus for at least the past week and I havent seen any posts on the forums about this.  It doesn't seem safe but are they dummy packages for libdbus* ?01:07
nima_thx alot01:07
wpc11v3does anyone know how to get a wifi card working?  I went out and purchased one a few months ago and have tried many things to get it to work.  (the card supposedly works)01:07
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ssstormyoh I bet it's cause I upgraded firefox to 1.501:07
Sionidehappy christmas all GMT ubuntus01:07
wpc11v3I don't even know how to determine if it is seen by the kernel :(01:07
toya__gnomefreak, do you know if the gnome panel part of metacity or not?01:07
gnomefreakssstormy, very well could be01:08
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gnomefreaktoya__,  nope im thinking yes it is but not sure on that01:08
Pablowhat chipset is it wpc11v3 ?01:08
Angel666wpc11v3: could see if dmesg says anything about it at the bottom is you plug it in/out01:08
no0ticwpc11v3, it's is compatible with linux? it has linux drivers?01:08
wpc11v3yes.. http://osunix.com/?p=4 even says it should work out of the box :(01:08
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toya__gnomefreak, my guess is not too, because when i log in it shows that they're loaded separately01:08
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gnomefreak!info gnome-panel01:09
ubotugnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 361 kB, Installed size: 872 kB01:09
HeartBTapokryphos, done, any more tips or advice?01:09
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ssstormytoya__, I think it is the other way round01:09
knoppix_hey01:09
wpc11v3the computer goes "be boo" when I plug it in ... the lights come on on the card, but it doesn't change anything in dmesg01:09
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GatoradeI can't download knoppix cd I don't know how to assort the files :(01:09
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toya__ssstormy, when you load up originally i think first it loads metacity, then some program, then the panel01:09
Pablowpc11v3, what chipset does YOUR card have?01:09
ssstormytoya__, oops nevermind; yeah I think gnomepanel runs off metacity01:09
apokryphosHeartBT: that InstallingKDE wiki link gives you other options for installation, but ideally I'd recommend you go with the recommended Kubuntu setup, at least at first (which means just installing the kubuntu-desktop metapack).01:09
gnomefreakGatorade,  you want the ISO image01:09
gnomefreakssstormy,  im thinking it does also01:10
wpc11v3prism01:10
toya__hm ok01:10
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HeartBTapokryphos, what is the reason for the recomendation?  stability or...01:10
toya__someone wanna tell me why people prefer fvwm than metacity?01:10
wpc11v3Pablo, prism01:10
gnomefreaklighter?01:11
toya__and how about the theme feature does that come from metacity?01:11
apokryphosHeartBT: to get the full Kubuntu experience01:11
apokryphosHeartBT: if you don't normally use KDE, also, it's good to get an overview of all of it.01:11
HeartBTtoya__, metacity drives me NUTS, I cannot get windows to shade right, or even focus right.01:11
wpc11v3Angel666, so if it doesn't show up in dmesg ... eg it looks like pcmicia isn't working ... how can I determine what to do next?01:12
apokryphosHeartBT: kwin is the way to go :P01:12
QRZwpc11v3:  Doing, "iwconfig" at the command prompt should show if there's a driver loaded for it.  If so, then all that's left is to configure it for your network.01:12
mwethe kde framework is great but kubuntu includes to much krap01:12
wpc11v3QRZ, it doesn't show up01:12
gnomefreaki would say as  a new user try a few different desktops to see what one you like better there is such a big set of choices in desktops01:12
apokryphosmwe: like what?01:12
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Pablowpc11v3, does it work in a non-linux machine?01:12
HeartBTapokryphos, I'm acutually new to gnome, tried it, yuck.  I like it's menu system,(kinda) and I like it's desktop, but like I just said, metacity blows.01:12
toya__HeartBT, hmm oO?01:13
wpc11v3Pablo, don't have a non-linux machine01:13
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halibuthow can I check the time since last reboot?01:13
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wpc11v3Pablo, I've got 2 desktops on ubuntu and been trying to get my laptop working for 4 months01:13
wpc11v3Pablo, it is brand new though01:13
mweapokryphos: koffice for one thing, but that's just me i guess01:13
apokryphosHeartBT: I don't like the default kicker that much as it is. With taskbar v2 and better icons it looks nice though. As I showed someone earlier... http://giannaros.org/kicker.jpg01:13
PabloI would think that ubuntu would see it01:13
apokryphosHeartBT: as you can see, little things like mini-screenies on hover are very handy =)01:13
PabloI use atheros not prism01:13
HeartBTtoya__, in the last week, I've tried at least 4 window managers, and I'm going back to what I've used for the last 4 years, KDE/Kwin01:13
wpc11v3Pablo, is there something like lspcmcia like lspci?01:14
apokryphosmwe: shows how much you're basing your argument on. Kubuntu doesn't come with Koffice :)01:14
toya__HeartBT, want to help me install fvwm?01:14
QRZwpc11v3:  How about lspci?01:14
toya__HeartBT, lol01:14
cthulhui cant compile lirc on kubuntu, can somebody help me??01:14
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install fvwm?01:14
mweapokryphos: akregator, kontact are others I dislike01:14
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toya__HeartBT, i heard its very custumoziable01:14
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wpc11v3QRZ, lspci shows the Cardbus bridge (toshiba) abut nothing it contains..01:14
gnomefreakcthulhu,  you dont need to compile it its in the repos01:14
dailyrorschachanyone know where I can get a good howto on setting up folding at home, the wiki is a little unclear01:15
HeartBTtoya__, there is a tutorial on ubuntuforums, I'll see if I can find it if you like.01:15
mweapokryphos: ok then I was wrong about koffice01:15
apokryphosmwe: how exactly would you argue that kde is good while those fundamental kde apps (i.e kontact, kde's PIM) are that bad? :P01:15
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toya__HeartBT, oh its ok then i ll find it on my own01:15
gnomefreakdailyrorschach,  making a folder in the home/username path?01:15
toya__can i reassign a swap partition? (i didnt assign any)01:15
HeartBTtoya__, you have no swap?01:15
apokryphosmwe: suffice it to say it's not a "bad call" on Kubuntu's side to include Kontact (partly because I think it's an amazing app, when integrated with all others, and secondly because it's fundamental KDE)01:15
toya__HeartBT, nope01:16
dailyrorschachgnomefreak: no, installing the application folding@home01:16
mweapokryphos: I like the look and feel and kcontrol and the fact that I can customize all I need01:16
HymnToLifetoya__ > yes, if you have some free space to create one that is01:16
toya__HymnToLife, i do01:16
gnomefreakoh sorry never heard of it :(01:16
HeartBTtoya__, or you did not assign one.01:16
cthulhui installed it from the repos, but it didnt work so i tryed compiling it from source01:16
wpc11v3so am I just screwed... I've already went out and payed $100 for this wifi card because it "works"...  I'm almost willing to pay $100 for it to really work... :(01:16
toya__HeartBT, did not assign/make one when installing01:16
gnomefreakcthulhu,  did you read the install file?01:16
wpc11v3I've wasted soo much time01:16
toya__but i have free space01:16
HeartBTtoya__, I though ubuntu made one by default, can someone confirm that?01:17
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gnomefreakcthulhu,  did you apt-get <packagename-dep>01:17
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apokryphosHeartBT: it does, if you select it to take the whole disk & format01:17
HymnToLifeHeartBT > it does not01:17
SweetestSavage!firefox01:17
ubotumethinks firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.01:17
cthulhuyep01:17
HymnToLifeif you choose manual partitioning01:17
mweapokryphos: well I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate kmail, konqueror, kontact, kwhatnot krap but I love the look and feel of it. I don't like the way gnome looks01:18
cthulhui did it01:18
Lukian!opera01:18
ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser01:18
cthulhubut it didnt work01:18
Lukian:D01:18
apokryphosHymnToLife: if you tell it to format the whole disk it doesn't automatically make a swap partition?01:18
gnomefreakcthulhu,  apt-get <packagename-dep> didnt work?01:18
Lukianhey, flash isn't playing sound on my ubuntu, suggestions?01:18
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HymnToLifeapokryphos > I said "if you choose manual partitioning"...01:18
cthulhuno01:18
centOGGXP can't read FAT32 gparted partitions01:18
apokryphosmwe: you should tell me what you hate about them :D  (but perhaps not here)01:18
cthulhuit installed the package01:18
gnomefreakwhat is the full package name?01:18
apokryphosHymnToLife: I know01:18
toya__centOGG, really?01:18
gnomefreakcthulhu, apt-get   forget the word install01:19
centOGGlast week I had to redo with ubuntu install partitoner01:19
gnomefreakjust as i typed it without the <>01:19
cthulhupackage name is lirc01:19
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone01:19
gnomefreakok hold on01:19
HymnToLifetoya__ > yeah, its a well known issue01:19
cthulhuand lirc-modules-source01:19
toya__ic01:19
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centOGGafter I laid hda out in gparted the way I wanted it01:20
gnomefreak!info lirc01:20
ubotulirc: (Linux Infra-red Remote Control support), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.7.0.1-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 256 kB, Installed size: 1376 kB01:20
redvelvetis there a way i can play wmv in firefox browser?01:20
rizoquestion, if possible how do i get breezy to show a progress bar when it's doing hibernate? also is there an offical bug for the whole splash in grub and hibernate conflict?01:20
apokryphosredvelvet: if you have w32codecs and mozilla-mplayer it should be able to, I think01:20
HymnToLifeon my old Woody CDs the partitioning tool can create XP-readable FAT32s, it's labelled "W95 FAT32 (LBA)" if that helps01:21
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HeartBTtoya__, either way, if you don't have it, and all is running fine, then you prob. don't need it, If you do have it and don't realize it, no biggie, and it's real easy to turn a dir into swap.01:21
gnomefreaki dont see a dep package for it :(01:21
centOGGpartitioning=real anal01:21
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gnomefreakok cthulhu  where on the compile are you lost?01:21
HeartBTcentOGG, info makeswap01:21
toya__HeartBT, ok01:22
HeartBTcentOGG, oops no info.  well it's there.01:22
toya__HeartBT, i might need it once i install huge amount of eye candies01:22
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redvelvetapokrypos, how do i get w32 codecs?01:24
centOGGI let XP have the MBR01:24
toya__i want a desktop like this guy's http://lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=140407135640c8970070189&m=screen01:24
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gnomefreak!w32 codecs01:24
ubotuw32 codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/01:24
redvelvetthanks01:24
gnomefreakyw01:24
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gnomefreaktoya__, thats xfce witha  background image and apps on it01:25
cthulhui type make, it compiles but the an error happens01:25
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mweapokryphos: It's just my taste. But I can see why people find kmail, kontact konqueror etc useful. I use kde because of kcontrol and the the way the widgets and stuff look. And besides I agree with Linus in his view on the path that gnome has taken01:25
HeartBTok, bbiab01:26
gnomefreakcthulhu,  no errors during ./configure01:26
HymnToLifemwe > and which are Linus' views on gnome ?01:26
gnomefreaktoya__, that background you can get from art.gnome.org01:26
apokryphosmwe: I find it hard to understand (I find those apps amazing), but appreciate that it's possible. =)01:26
mweHymnToLife: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html01:27
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cthulhuno01:27
apokryphoshis second post is more critical, too :-O01:27
HymnToLifemwe > thx01:27
cthulhuit ends correctly01:27
`Uncle`YAY the live disk download is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:27
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(gn0me/#ubuntu) existance: But it should be able to.03:54
(existance/#ubuntu) gn0me, :(03:54
(gn0me/#ubuntu) I believe.03:54
(ElitePete/#ubuntu) gn0me, how do i see my fps in glx gears03:55
(gn0me/#ubuntu) ElitePete: Some flag on it that I can't remember.03:55
ElitePeteglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark03:55
ElitePete?03:55
gn0meElitePete: somethinglike -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark03:55
gn0meyeah03:55
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ElitePetedoesnt show me the fps tho??03:55
gn0mesec03:56
gn0mehmm.. should work..03:56
skonElitePete: what about a screensaver?03:56
gn0meThat too.03:56
ElitePeteskon,  ?03:56
existancegn0me, hmm, i think it can only set what kind of SYstem it runs on.. any idea what can format it?03:56
gn0meCan make screensavers say your FPS03:56
skonElitePete: try running like "Flying Toasters" or something that lets you show your FPS03:56
ElitePeteokay.03:56
ElitePetei will do that at some point.03:57
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rizoneed help, which file do i edit to get syndaemon to run at startup?03:57
ElitePetequestion: the ati driver does suck though?03:57
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ElitePetei just couldn't justify not using a $200 card03:57
gn0meexistance: Hmm yeah, I really don't know what you'd use.03:57
gn0meexistance: But I figure a quick google search might give hints.03:58
existancegn0me, yea.. i think i found something03:58
gn0meexistance: I'll look too :D03:58
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existancegn0me, http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_PartitioningandFormattingSecondHardDrive_ext3.shtml03:58
existancegn0me, i just need to find where the command is in ubuntu03:59
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gn0meexistance: sformat looks to be a package03:59
skonHas anyone ever gotten an NVIDIA GeForce to run under linux??03:59
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gn0meskon: I just did today :D04:00
existancegn0me, mm, locate sformat got no hits ;(04:00
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gn0meexistance: One sec, lemme try it for you04:00
unixneed litle help, wich command is chkconfig at ubuntu04:00
ardchoilleanyone know which file(s) is changed when I click Go -> Clear History in nautilus?04:00
skongn0me: did you have to do a manual install? download any drivers? because I've tried Ubuntu, FreeBSD, and Debian and none of them support my GeForce 5500 out of the box04:00
gn0meexistance: sudo apt-get install sformat04:00
existancegn0me, i got it to work using mk2fs04:01
existancegn0me, will get that though, looks like an easier way perhaps04:01
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gn0meskon: I just went to nvidia.com in lynx and downloaded it then ran it as root.04:01
gn0meAnd it felt like working nicely. :D04:01
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skongn0me: was X installed at the time?04:02
gn0meyeppers04:02
unixgn0me, can u tell me wich command to use instead of chkconfig04:02
alphywhy am I getting this error when I'm trying to install support for mp3's and other audio files?  Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse04:02
skonDid you get strange messages when you tried to run it?04:02
existancegn0me, w00t, I mounted it successfullly :)04:02
skonalphy: did you enable your repositories?04:02
gn0meexistance: Hooray, we rock!04:02
gn0meskon: Worked right off the bat, mind you.. mine's a 6200OC .. so it might have better luck with it or something04:03
alphyskon, as far as I know, I followed all the instructions from the forum?  is there anything else I'm supposed to do?04:03
ElitePetegn0me, do you know how i install the openssh client to my ubuntu machine? is it apt-get ?04:03
gn0meDifferent model, different stuff.04:03
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unixno one to help me04:03
skonElitePete: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:03
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ElitePeteskon, i have the server, i want the client04:03
poimenhi someone here is a dev?04:03
ravv_How do i force an remove/install so it adds new .conf-files?04:04
skonElitePete: it isn't installed?04:04
gn0meElitePete: sudo apt-get install openssh-client04:04
gn0meElitePete: :D04:04
ElitePetegn0me, <304:04
gn0meWhen it doubt.. sudo synaptic04:04
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alphyskon, did you get that?04:04
Evil_Whisperlater all04:04
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ElitePetegn0me, it appears i have it installed, does it have a gui?04:05
gn0meNever used it before.. so.. Maybe!04:05
skonalphy: sorry ...did you do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of all the #'s and then save it?04:05
gn0me;)04:05
alphyskon, no, I run that in the terminal and do what?04:05
ravv_ssh user@host04:06
gn0meElitePete: Maybe ssh "<server>"04:06
gn0meerr..04:06
ElitePeteravv_, yea i can ssh fine.. i just was wondering if their was a gui04:06
gn0me"ssh <server>"04:06
ElitePetegn0me, yep ;-004:06
skonalphy: run that, and then you get rid of all the #'s in front of the addresses - this tells ubuntu where to look for downloads, then you do Ctrl+O and then Ctrl+X and then try whatever you wanted to do again04:06
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gn0meElitePete: You could run it in a terminal and make the background pretty. :D04:06
ilba7rhow to list the programs i opened inside a terminal?04:06
gn0melsof?04:07
ElitePetegn0me, yea thats how i do it now, how do i make the bg pretty/04:07
ilba7rthanx04:07
gn0melsof | grep "What you're looking for" too04:07
gn0meElitePete: Probably something under Edit->Current Profile.. If you're in gnome04:07
gn0mewww.gn0me.org/terminal.png I like mine :D04:07
skonElitePete: I concur04:07
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mcjerryvncviewer works well04:08
ElitePete:-P!04:08
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alphy skon, now I'm getting this message:  E: Type 'Major' is not known on line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list04:09
alphyE: The list of sources could not be read.04:09
ilba7rgnome i ment i opened a lot of instances in a terminal using the & and want to know what will be closed if i close the terminal04:09
pratyushdid anybody used wlan by broadcom un compaq notebooks in ubuntu breeze04:09
ilba7rpratyush i did04:09
ilba7rand it ran flawlesly04:09
skonalphy: go back to line 7 in that file and paste it here (assuming it's just 1 line)04:09
pratyushwow04:09
gn0meilba7r: ps shows open processes..04:09
ilba7ryou just need ndiswrapper and the driver04:09
pratyushcan you help ...04:09
skongn0me: what's your banner say?04:09
ElitePetehehe gn0me!04:09
ilba7rthanx gnome04:09
gn0meskon: Linuxjunkies.04:09
ElitePetehow do i take a picture of one window?04:09
skonheh04:09
beardousaMy permissions on /dev/raw1394 keep getting reset every time I restart.  Is there some way to prevent this, or can I use a startup script to change the permissions?04:10
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gn0meElitePete: In gnome, if your shortcuts are right.. ALT+PrintScreen04:10
Lockeis there any way to keep hdc1 from mounting at bootup?04:10
sethkElitePete, there are several programs.  ksnapshot is one.  I forget the name of the gnome one, but it's there04:10
gn0meLocke: Remove it from your /etc/fstab maybe?04:10
ilba7rpratyush just ask and it will depend on mem for i upgraded to a t42 now04:10
alphyskon, I know this is a stupid question, but I just count down 7 lines?04:10
acidrain1part04:10
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pratyushmy system is not recoqnizing the wlan04:11
pratyushhow to load the drivers04:11
ilba7rpratyush do you have ndiswrapper installed04:11
pratyushya04:11
Lockegn0me: just delete the entryy that says it?04:11
gn0meLocke: Or put a # in front04:12
gn0melocke: Comment it out rather than delete might be best.04:12
skonalphy: yes04:12
skonalphy: including blank lines04:12
ravv_Anyone here now how to force a complete reinstall of a package complete with new .conf-files?04:12
pratyushi installed and loaded the inf files too04:12
ElitePetegn0me, my terminal is sexay now04:12
gn0me:)04:12
alphyskon, Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the04:13
alphy distribution.04:13
gn0meElitePete: That's what every linux user wants, sexy terminals. :)04:13
Lockehow do i log on as root in the GUI again?04:13
skongn0me: is that a banner for the local term?04:13
Wilfmmm how do i access my secondary HDD, which is NTFS?04:13
skonalphy: do you have a # in front of it?04:13
skonWilf: what is the device name?04:13
gn0meskon: Yeah, I just put the banner in a text file and in my ~/.bashrc it does "cat linuxjunkieslogo"04:13
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Wilfskon: no idea.04:14
alphyskon, no, got rid of all of them.  that was the right thing to do, right?04:14
Wilfjust the slave drive on the promary ide channel.04:14
ElitePetegn0me, check it out http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/term.jpg04:14
skonalphy: no , only get rid of the ones in front of the addresses.. e.g. http://ubuntu.... etc...the #'s should be kept for every other line04:14
Wilfhdd1 then i suppose04:14
gn0me:)04:14
skonWilf: hold on a sec...04:14
ElitePete;-D04:14
gn0meLooks good. :D04:14
alphyskon, okay04:14
existanceI have a partition i want to make accessible to all users, what umask would i use?04:15
gn0meEspecially since my name is on it. ;)04:15
ElitePetegn0me, LOl04:15
CaptainMorganarg!04:15
ElitePete< wishes he had switched to linux years ago04:15
skonWilf: first you do sudo umount /dev/hda104:15
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skonWilf: then you type  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/ntfs -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 exit04:16
skonElitePete: use the /me command for a third person reference :P04:16
gn0meexistance: /me is awesome.04:16
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gn0meI suck at typing.04:16
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Wilfskon, device is busy...04:17
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rendihello what happen with my breezy ?04:17
Lockehow do i log on as root in the GUI again?04:17
skonWilf: on what command?04:17
Wilfunmounting.04:17
gn0meLocke: Don't need to.. can always use "sudo" for stuff04:17
rendiif i'm install hoary mysql runing wel04:17
skonWilf: then try hda2...I don't know which partition your NTFS is named04:17
gn0meLocke: And if you REALLY need to be in a root terminal.. "sudo -s"04:17
rendibut on breezy its stuck04:17
mcjerryWilf, do you have ide or sata?04:17
Wilfah, fair enough. alrighty.04:17
WilfIDE.04:17
benplautcan someone write a small script for me?04:18
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Lockegn0me well i'm not the greatest with commands yet04:18
gn0mebenplaut: Yes, but it might not do what you want it to!04:18
gn0meLocke: Neither am I :D04:18
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benplautbrb04:18
mcjerryWilf: u in gnome now?04:18
Lockegn0me: i just need to change the permissions on my fstab file to let me on04:18
gn0meWhich text editor do you use?04:19
Wilfmcjerry, yes04:19
gn0meLocke: sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:19
gn0meLocke: And put in your account's password (for Locke)04:19
mcjerrySystem > Administration > Disks04:20
Wilfmcjerry, ah...04:20
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Wilf/dev/hdb04:20
mcjerryhow many partitions are on hdb?04:21
Wilfdamn. i really wish i could convert it to ext3 without wiping the data. there is one partition04:21
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scolemake another04:21
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ilba7rpratyush !04:21
Wilfthe disk is full04:21
mcjerryWilf: open a terminal04:21
scoleoh04:22
Wilfmcjerry, terminal is open04:22
beardousailba7r, Did pratyush disappear on you04:22
gn0meSeeya guys!04:22
existancemcjerry, go to /dev and see how many hdb1, hdb2 etc there for04:22
skonWilf: just replace 1 with d in the command I told you04:22
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mcjerryWilf: is this your windows partition or just a stroage partition04:22
ilba7rbeardousa yap04:22
ilba7rlol04:22
Wilfmcjerry, storage partition04:22
existancemcjerry, or type sudo fdisk /dev/hdb04:22
ilba7rhere is the link he needed though https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto04:23
Wilfhowever it is formatted with ntfs04:23
mcjerryexistance: help is for Wilf, not me04:23
existancemcjerry, yea... i just noticed and promptly slapped myself04:23
mcjerryWilf: sudo mkdir /mnt/storage04:23
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mcjerryWilf: do you prefer nano or gedit?04:23
Wilfgedit04:23
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vrubsethk you still here ?04:24
erikahi everyone... merry Christmas  :)04:24
mcjerryWilf sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:24
vrubcheerz erika04:24
mcjerryWilf: can you pm?04:24
ilba7rmerry christmas to you erika04:24
erikaty vrub04:24
erikayou too ilba7r04:24
vrubsomeone rescue me04:25
ilba7rok vrub can you restate your prob04:25
Wilfmcjerry, yes04:25
erikaI finally broke down... intro'ed myself in the forums. I feel snubbed.  :(04:25
mcjerryWilf: paste your /etc/fstab in pm to me04:26
beardousaThe scripts in /etc/init.d are run as your user, not root, right?04:26
vrubilba7r i am trying to edit my boot.ini file and i cant because ntfs is read-only and i booted with a NTFS4DOS floppy and tried copying a new boot.ini and it still didnt work04:26
Wilf#04:26
Wilf# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>04:26
Wilfproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       004:26
Wilf/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:26
Wilf/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       004:26
beardousaI need to make a script that runs as root.  Where can I do that?04:26
Wilf/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:26
Wilf/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:26
Wilfgoddamnit.04:26
Wilfstupid xchat, sorry everyone.04:26
crimsunbeardousa: they're run as root.04:26
beardousaoh04:26
crimsunbeardousa: man update-rc.d04:26
existanceWilf, might use www.pastebin.com next time :/04:26
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ilba7rvrub are you editing it from window or linux04:27
vrubilba7r linux04:27
ilba7rvrub i did it from window04:27
mcjerryWilf: add this line to fstab -- /dev/hdb1 /mnt/storage ntfs umask=0222 0 004:27
vrubilba7r i cant boot into windows04:27
vrubilba7r thats why im on linux04:27
mcjerryWilf: save fstab and close gedit04:28
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ilba7rvrub ok and you want to write to ntfs right04:28
Wilfmcjerry, done and done.04:28
ilba7r!ntfs04:28
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:28
vrubilba7r yeah04:28
mcjerryWilf: did you sudo mkdir /mnt/storage ?04:28
Wilfmcjerry, yes i did04:28
mcjerryWilf: mount -a04:28
vrubilba7r i just need to edit a few words and i cant :(04:28
ilba7rvrub though it is not recommended just follow the link ubotu gave04:28
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Wilfmcjerry, done04:28
mcjerryWilf: cd /mnt/storage and then ls04:29
mcjerryWilf: do you see files now04:29
phreak97can xchat be made to minimize to a systray icon?04:29
vrubilba7r i already have it mounted04:29
Wilfmcjerry, yes i see all my files on my hdb!04:29
vrubilba7r it mounts in read-only man04:29
ilba7rvrub you need to enable writing to it i know there is a command but can not remeber it that is why i am browsing the link04:30
ilba7rit was unmask something04:30
mcjerryWilf: now each time you reboot, the drive will be automounted to /mnt/storage04:30
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Wilfmcjerry, ah, that is great. thanks alot!04:30
vrubilba7r you have to recompile the kernel i think ?04:30
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Wilfcan files be written to NTFS yet?04:30
ilba7rvrub no i do not think so04:30
mcjerryWilf: i have not tried read/write yet, only read here04:31
ilba7roh you are right vrub04:31
skonilba7r: linux does not allow ntfs writing directly, you need to download special programs for that which are limited04:31
benplautanyone here with conky, who can lend a few min of there time in exchange for furthering development of not having the dreaded 'flickers'?04:31
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vrubsigh04:31
mcjerryWilf: me thinks write to ntfs is limited04:31
erika<--- wonders why ANYONE would ever want to write to NTFS04:31
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Wilfthen it is time for me to hook up the the good old onetouch and do a backup and reformat!04:31
benplauthappy Chrismahanakwanza!04:31
electroweakgood night everbody04:32
benplaut'night04:32
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electroweaki have some problems about Xserver it`s shutting itself down04:32
rabbit1Wilf:  if you make a partition with file sys format fat32, then both can read/write04:32
electroweakhow can i fix it04:32
electroweakany ideas04:32
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CaptainMorganno!04:32
skonelectroweak: you need to be more specific04:33
rabbit1Wilf: you can also do it with ext2 or 3 but windows needs a driver to read/write04:33
benplautelectroweak, stop pressing ctrl+alt+backspace04:33
dabaRwhy use xserver on christmas!04:33
erikaHi CaptainMorgan :)04:33
benplautdabaR, -_-04:33
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erikaMy ex used to drink you.04:33
electroweaki dont know exactly what`s happening after installation when restart it`s closing itself04:34
erikaMaybe he still does.  ;)04:34
electroweakerror report says some font problem04:34
dabaRelectroweak: any errors?04:34
CaptainMorganlol.. don't know whether to be flattered, or insulted... :)04:34
benplautCaptainMorgan, then it worked!04:34
electroweakerror report says some font problem04:34
dabaRCaptainMorgan: be joyous, christ is born!04:34
CaptainMorgan!!04:34
ubotu??04:34
crimsunelectroweak: please upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:34
benplaut!?04:34
ubotuI haven't a clue, benplaut04:34
ravv_Um how do I install apache2+php5 on dapper?04:34
erikadoesn't matter... merry xmas, Cap'n :)04:34
benplautheh :P04:35
CaptainMorgansorry bott... don't mean to disturb04:35
CaptainMorgango back to sleep bott04:35
benplaut!botsnack04:35
ubotu:)04:35
CaptainMorganlol04:35
mcjerryWilf: you still here?04:35
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CaptainMorganmerry christmas erika, :) you on the market :-004:35
rabbit1if you access a fat32 drive from linux do permissions work at all?   what does setting permissions from linux do?04:36
erikanot really, Cap'n... still married.04:36
CaptainMorgangood for you :) cheers04:36
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xuehi04:37
xuei need a lil help04:37
xuehow do i open shell in ubuntu ?04:37
ilba7rvrub you are right sorry pal have no idea right now04:37
crimsunxue: Applications> Accessories> Terminal04:37
mcjerryWilf: If you want to do a simple convert, Paragon Partition Manager 7.0 will convert ntfs to fat32....it is most reliable partition manager i have used.....04:37
CaptainMorganhow many gals we got in here? pretty brave no going to the right side of things.. that are Linux04:37
xuety04:37
CaptainMorgangood for you04:37
erikadivorcing tho. Ex was a puter wiz. He always put Linux down... loved Mac tho. Go figure.04:37
CaptainMorganso you ARe on the market...04:38
benplautanyone here with conky, who can lend a few min of there time in exchange for furthering development of not having the dreaded 'flickers'?04:38
CaptainMorgansorry to hear that...04:38
mcjerryrabbit1: what partition manager you had most success with?04:38
rabbit1haven't done any yet.....  well I just partitioned the drive when I installed xp...  it's not formatted...04:38
rabbit1I'm going to format when I install ubuntu...04:38
rabbit1but I want to share a partition04:39
rabbit1and I'm trying to decide between fat32 and ext2 or 304:39
CaptainMorganadmirable to see a gal who is afraid to get her hands dirty and do some kernel coding, X modding, gnome or KDe customs... etc.. cheers04:39
CaptainMorganis - isn't04:39
erikaI'm researching Linux to get my kids away from Windows. I just spent a weekend getting rid of a CWS browser hijack on my son's xp... ended up doing a clean install.04:39
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CaptainMorganooof... CWS..04:39
crimsund'oh, I need to upload conky 1.3.404:40
CaptainMorganwell, you've come to right channel erika :)04:40
Xmasmoohow can I install simultaneous versions with apt-get to non-standard locations? I need to use boost 1.3.2 which conflicts with Ubuntu repository default.04:40
dabaRgo, hurry, it could make it before christmas!04:40
CaptainMorganyou on a laptop or desktop for your kids?04:40
dabaRrabbit1: there is a umask option for mounting fat.04:40
rabbit1what's that dabaR?04:41
ravv_What is conky?04:41
benplautravv_, a really nice system moniter04:41
Wilfmcjerry, i am back now, sorry went to watch family guy...04:41
dabaRrabbit1: and other options. You likely can not change permissions after you mount. It is permissions during mount. run "man mount" in a terminal, and then read the section for fat. Then ask us what you do not get from there.04:41
rabbit1okay04:41
mcjerryWilf: you want to convert ntfs to fat32 ?04:41
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erikaI'm a simple user... but I'm soooo sick of updating my AV, Spyware... dealing with my kid's destroying my os with CWS hijacks... ARRRGHHH04:42
Wilfmcjerry, nah it is ok, my onetouch is empty, so i'll just convert it to ext3, then copy my files over, then reformat my hdb.04:42
dabaRRaah04:42
jmhodgeshey, i just got a new monitor but the xorg doesn't want to display04:42
mcjerrynp04:42
jmhodgeswhat do i need to do to get my system autoconfigured for my new monitor?04:42
erikaI'm good at clean installs now04:42
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dabaRjmhodges: resolution?04:42
erikasigh04:43
benplautcrimsun, can you help for a few min?04:43
dabaRjmhodges: or nothing shown?04:43
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crimsunbenplaut: I don't use conky myself, so I probably won't be much help04:43
jmhodgesdabaR: an error about not bein "able to dispaly at this video mode"04:43
benplautoh04:43
dabaRjmhodges: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, and follow what it says, and then come ask me if it does not help.04:44
benplautjmhodges, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:44
benplauterr04:44
jmhodgesnatch, ok thanks hehe04:44
benplautyeah :P04:44
erikaI'm boring you04:44
erikasawwy04:44
dabaRerika: what is sawwy? is that savvy?04:45
ElitePetesorry.04:45
dabaRI saw that before. sawwy04:45
CaptainMorganI hear ya erika, not sure if you need convincing - boring ? hell no... multitasking :) if you need convincing, you don't need to worry about spyware in Linux and viruses are at extreme low..04:45
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rabbit1dabaR: I can set global permissions on the fat partition when I mount it....      but permissions aren't lasting?04:45
ingratohi04:45
ingratodoes ubuntu only come with gnome and not kde?04:45
ElitePeteingrato comes with kde also04:46
dabaRravv_: "aptitude search conky" or "/msg ubotu info conky" former command in aterminal, latter message to the channel.04:46
ElitePeteget "kubuntu"04:46
rabbit1!kubuntu04:46
dabaRingrato: there is both.04:46
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:46
thoreauputicingrato: you can install it also -  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:46
ElitePete!botsnack04:46
ubotu:)04:46
erikaCM... Are Linux systems truly immune to Virus attacks?04:47
ElitePeteerika, pretty much04:47
rabbit1why?04:47
jmhodgesok, when i started up gdm my monitor stated that ti was "autoadjusting"04:47
ingratothoreauputic, how from debian? or from within ubuntu?04:47
jmhodgesis this going to keep happening?04:47
dabaRerika: it is not an attack, it is called obtaining non-legitimate copies of software, and falling for email scam.04:47
thoreauputicingrato: from within ubuntu04:47
ilba7rerika nothing is 100 % imune but they are much better than window04:47
ingratothanks04:48
erikaI spent an hour at the local Buffet explaining why Linux was better to my kids this past sunday.04:48
CaptainMorganerika - yep :) generally speaking... Linux isn't the target of many hackers... target is big business04:48
dabaRhe asks is this going to continue hapenning, I was gonna ask him is he going to keep switching monitors.04:48
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rabbit1dabaR: I can set global permissions on the fat partition when I mount it....      but permissions aren't lasting?04:49
dabaRerika: just let them use it, I guess.04:49
ingratohow does ubuntu differ from debian?04:49
ingratoI've never used either04:49
benplauthrm... ubotu has it's math wrong04:49
crimsuningrato: that's answered in part on Mark Shuttleworth's wiki page04:49
benplautKubuntu isn't ubuntu+kde04:49
erikaSome older (80) woman at the next table stood up, clapped, and asked me how I learned so much about computers.04:49
dabaRrabbit1: what are you asking? the permissions are meaningful for a fat system only when it is mounted under linux, otherwise it is not meanignful. Just add the fat entry to /etc/fstab.04:50
benplautit's ubuntu -gnome +kde!04:50
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thoreauputicingrato: they are very similar, but ubuntu releases new versions every 6 months04:50
dabaRingrato: visit both web sites.04:50
ingratocrimsun, where is Mark's page?04:50
ilba7ringrato if you never used either so your answer will be it it much easier to install and work with04:50
crimsunwiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth04:50
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ingratohow often does debian release?04:50
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CaptainMorganerika, your kids like to play games? if so, you may want to dual boot... maybe 50/50...04:50
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dabaRingrato: 6 months as opposed to debian's "when a release is ready and stable"04:50
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ElitePeteCaptainMorgan, could just install vmware for games04:50
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CaptainMorganhaven't tried vmare... but yea of course.. even wine.. but I haven't got wine to function properly ;(04:51
ingratothanks04:51
ElitePetewine blows04:51
rabbit1dabaR: if I use ext2 or 3 instead of fat32 for this shared partition, then permissions will be 1. persistent, and 2. different!  (not global umask)04:51
rabbit1right?04:51
erikaCM... I dual boot now... 40mb fat32share. See... I'm not a dumb chick.  ;)04:51
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benplaut!no, kubuntu is Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. It is possible to have Gnome and KDE on the same system, just select which to use at the GDM or KDM login screan ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:52
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dabaRrabbit1: for ext3 permissions are meaningful, so yes.04:52
dabaRrabbit1: fat is a windows fs, so...windows does not have permissions.04:52
benplautdamn bot04:52
benplaut!forget kubuntu04:52
ubotui forgot kubuntu, benplaut04:52
rabbit1so would you recommend using ext3 for a shared drive and get windows the driver for it??04:52
CaptainMorganerika.. you're hot04:52
thoreauputicbenplaut: I suspect that factoid is now too long for the channel04:52
benplautubotu kubuntu is kubuntu is Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. It is possible to have Gnome and KDE on the same system, just select which to use at the GDM or KDM login screan ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:52
ubotubenplaut: what are you talking about?04:52
benplautthoreauputic, i guess you're right04:53
crimsundon't recursively define it04:53
benplautubotu kubuntu is kubuntu is Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:53
ubotubenplaut: I think you lost me on that one04:53
erikaNo... my kids are hot.04:53
benplaut!kubuntu is Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:53
ubotubenplaut: what are you talking about?04:53
thoreauputicbenplaut: "kubuntu is [reply]  .....04:53
dabaRbenplaut: read the pm he sent you please.04:53
benplauthas the syntax changed?!04:53
horghhello04:54
benplautsorry :/04:54
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dabaRrabbit1: me? recommend? Not really, I never used either, but you can try what works better.04:54
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rabbit1well I figure ext3 since you can remember the permissions...      but with fat32 you don't need a driver for windows04:55
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone04:55
erikaA little about me... airline pilot... big jets... love the most from the least... adore damn small linux04:55
benplautthanks dabaR04:55
dabaRrabbit1: and you can set up so that Ubuntu mounts your fat automatically, every time, with same permissions.04:55
horghwhen I try to run synaptic paquet manager, asks me for the password and I write it, then linux say that: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:04:55
horgh Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.04:55
horghwhat happen?04:55
youngcodermerry Christmas and goodnight Everyone!!!04:55
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drcodehi all04:55
thoreauputicerika: DSL is pretty cool :)04:55
rabbit1global permissions dabaR????04:55
benplauthappy Christmahanakwanza :)04:55
drcodehow I can chage sshd port?04:55
dabaRerika, CaptainMorgan, can you guys talk at #ubuntu-offtopic, it is more private.04:55
dabaRyoungcoder: hi.04:56
youngcoderheya dabaR04:56
crimsundrcode: change the listening port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config04:56
CaptainMorgandabaR, don't be a party pooper04:56
dabaRrabbit1: what are global permissions?04:56
drcodeI DID It04:56
erikadabaR... I'm not talking to CaptainMorgan04:56
drcodeit change me the ssh port04:56
drcodeclient04:56
dabaROK, your choice.04:57
rabbit1you said you can set the permissions when you mount....   but those permission are global (everything the same)04:57
drcodeha04:57
drcodewait04:57
dabaRto all the files, yes.04:57
drcodeI will try it04:57
drcodethanx04:57
SoulPropagationwhere does ubuntu store my panel preferences (e.g. if i'm migrating some of my settings to a new machine)04:57
SoulPropagation(both machines are on 5.10)04:57
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erikathoreauputic... DSL is amazing. I've chatted with the devs in their irc. Amazing!04:58
benplautSoulPropagation, it's in Gconf... good luck transferring it over :/04:58
thoreauputicerika:  :)04:58
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dabaRhorgh: try "ls ~/.Xauthority04:58
SoulPropagationbenplaut: there's no /$home/.gnome/panel/ or anything?04:58
dabaRhorgh: no "04:58
vrubsoo04:58
benplautSoulPropagation, afaik, no04:58
benplautand i do /alot/ witht he panel04:59
vrubis it time to open presents yet04:59
erikaAm I in the wrong room?04:59
rabbit1dabaR, if you set the permissions when mounting, you use a bitmask.. every file will have the same permissions04:59
SoulPropagationbenplaut: well then where does Gconf store its files?04:59
vrubPRESENTS04:59
rabbit1is that right?04:59
MasterTsunamiDudes, I switched to fglrx, and my native resolution is 1280x800, yet I can only do 1024x768.  I tried changing some things in xorg.conf but I can't seem to get it to work.  Here's my xorg.conf --> http://pastebin.com/47809404:59
dabaRrabbit1: yes, that is right. I get what you mean now.04:59
thoreauputicSoulPropagation: most of that stuff is in ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf and so on04:59
benplaut^^04:59
SoulPropagationerika: yeah, try #ubuntu-offtopic, cuz it's .... offtopic :P this is mainly for ubuntu support. =)04:59
dabaRvrub: heh. go ahead, if you have any.04:59
dabaRerika: for what? try "/topic"05:00
rabbit1if I used ext3 for the file system, then permissions would be persistent..   I just need a driver for windows05:00
vrubdabaR I HAVE NONE :(05:00
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vrubdabaR made a deal with the fat guy in the suit05:00
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dabaRvrub: same here, so feel OK.05:00
rabbit1does anyone have any experience with the ext2/3 driver for windows??05:00
dabaRrabbit1: and it is available, so I hear.05:00
vrubdabaR :P05:01
erikaok... I'm otta here... walking in a winter wonder land05:01
erikaummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....05:01
vrubdabaR on top of it all, i broke my windows partition so i have no games to play05:01
abarbacciahey - anybody here good with shell scripting?  i need soem quick help05:01
ilba7rrappet1 do you mean ext2fs05:01
dabaRvrub: take up reading.05:01
rabbit1well..    either one05:01
dabaRabarbaccia: try asking the question here and in #bash if you do not get an answer.05:01
rabbit1pretty much the same..   ext3 is backwards compatible05:01
erikawhere do I find quality help for a linux newbie?05:01
crimsunerika: if it's ubuntu-centric, here.05:02
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abarbacciaso i want to be able to parse the output of a command via a shell scrip05:02
abarbacciat05:02
thoreauputicerika: well, here - what did you want to ask ?05:02
dabaRerika: ask, and I will tell you where to ask if the question is not well asked here.05:02
ilba7rerika you are pretty well in the right chan05:02
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abarbaccialike if i do iwlist scanning - i want to be able to get only the names of the networks05:02
SoulPropagationerika: here05:02
dabaRabarbaccia: try cut. show us the output on pastebin, so we can tell you what to cut. paste.ubuntu-nl.org.05:03
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abarbacciahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/613605:03
ilba7rabrabaccia iwlist wlan0 scan |grep ESSID05:03
crimsunabarbaccia: man grep; man awk05:04
crimsunabarbaccia: here's something for starters: iwlist scanning 2>/dev/null|grep ESSID|awk -F: '{ print $2 }'05:04
ilba7rthis is using a pipe05:04
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dabaRwhatever...05:04
dabaR2fast4u...05:04
CaptainMorganyep05:05
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alex__any good text-based AIM clients out there?05:05
crimsunnaim.05:05
alex__word05:05
abarbacciacrimsun, whats the 2 after iwlist about? and the /dev/null05:05
dabaRalex__: try centericq.05:05
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crimsunabarbaccia: because you want to discard the messages regarding which interfaces don't support scanning05:06
thoreauputicabarbaccia: sends errors to nowhere :)05:06
crimsunabarbaccia: you might want to read the bash man page regarding stdout and stderr redirection05:06
benplautanyone here with conky, who can lend a few min of there time in exchange for furthering development of not having the dreaded 'flickers'?05:06
crimsunbenplaut: test with 1.3.4 first.05:06
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phreak97can someone help me with getting this fat32 partition mounted?05:06
benplautcrimsun, i'm stuck in Gentoo compiling gnome... can't do much05:07
erikafunny thing... I dedicated my HD to Ubuntu a week ago. Pulled my windows HD, stuck an old 20g in there. It works FINE! So... what's the deal?05:07
dabaRphreak97: what have you tried, and at what stage are you now?05:07
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benplautcrimsun, but from the changelog, doesn't seem they've done anything about it05:07
phreak97dabaR, it worked, so i added it to fstab, now it doesnt appear in Computer or on the desktop05:08
crimsunbenplaut: that doesn't mean anything05:08
dabaRphreak97: where did you mount?05:08
phreak97after a restart05:08
crimsunbenplaut: you need to confirm that it still exists in 1.3.4 before starting with a bug report05:08
phreak97in /media/s05:08
phreak97but it came up as storage, which is what i called the partition05:08
dabaRand?05:09
benplautcrimsun, it's a well-known issue, and they have several sollutions on their website... it's not a but, it's jus that the code isn't there...05:09
CaptainMorganerika , you have LInux only 20 g's ?05:09
CaptainMorgan:)05:09
CaptainMorganhave = gave05:09
mcjerrywho is using xchat?05:09
crimsunbenplaut: if actual source code hasn't been touched yet, there must be a reason05:09
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CaptainMorganmcjerry, here05:09
CaptainMorganxchat rulz!05:09
benplautw/e05:10
mwenah. xchat is too static05:10
mcjerryi have autojoin channel on connect; how do i set autojoin on kicks?05:10
thoreauputic!start an IRC client war05:10
ubotuxchat is better than b-x !05:10
CaptainMorganmy only gripe with xchat is the channel list... which it could be like hydra's05:10
thoreauputic:)05:10
crimsuntry xchat-gnome, then05:10
CaptainMorgantoo static ?05:10
benplaut!start a text editor war05:10
ubotubenplaut: Do they come in packets of five?05:10
phreak97dabaR,  i restarted after adding to fstab, now i cant make it show again05:10
benplaut-_-05:10
erikaCaptainMorgan I have hard drives laying around that my husband left... I have no clue what they are,05:10
thoreauputic!start an editor war05:10
ubotukwrite is better than emacs.05:10
benplautthar we go :D05:11
dabaRphreak97: is it mouinted, though?05:11
mcjerryCaptainMorgan: i agree on channel listing05:11
bolrodkwrite sux05:11
CaptainMorganerika, sure nothing's on them?05:11
benplautbolrod, it's a joke -_-05:11
bolrodI know05:11
bolrodbut it like05:11
CaptainMorganmcjerry, you ever use hydra ?05:11
bolrodreally really sux :)05:11
erikadunno05:11
phreak97daba i believe so05:11
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CaptainMorganif nothing, use those sucka up105:11
CaptainMorgan!05:11
ubotuNo idea, CaptainMorgan05:11
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bolrod!start window manager war05:11
ubotuI haven't a clue, bolrod05:11
mcjerryCaptainMorgan, nope, just mirc in winblows and xchat05:11
gil-need a lil' help05:12
bolrod!start desktop war05:12
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, bolrod05:12
dabaRphreak97: verify. that is your next step. "ls /media/storage"05:12
thoreauputic!ed05:12
ubotued is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!05:12
bolrodI am05:12
bolrod:/05:12
erikaCaptainMorgan... at this point, should I care?05:12
bolrod!start war05:12
ubotubolrod: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:12
CaptainMorganmcjerry, hydra's way of listing channels is super sweet05:12
phreak97access path: /media/s05:12
mcjerryCaptainMorgain: how do i set autojoin on kicks?05:12
bolrod!start terrorist war05:12
ubotubolrod: I don't know, could you explain it?05:12
mwe!botsmack05:12
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mwe05:12
bolrodomg05:12
dabaRbolrod: heh.05:12
thoreauputic!botabuse05:12
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg without being banned.05:12
CaptainMorganerika, not sure... your call ;)05:12
dabaR!botabuse05:12
bolrod!start something05:12
ubotubolrod: I give up, what is it?05:12
thoreauputicheh05:12
gil-anybody can help me?05:12
phreak97daba its an empty partition05:12
phreak97ls will show nothing either way05:12
bolrod!start distro war05:13
ubotubolrod: I give up, what is it?05:13
dabaRphreak97: "mount"05:13
CaptainMorganyour sick playing with the bot...05:13
CaptainMorganget a room05:13
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phreak97?05:13
bolrod*Yawn*05:13
bolrodI will.... to sleep05:13
dabaRphreak97: run "mount" in a terminal. when I give you "something" something is a command to run in a terminal.05:13
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bolrodx_005:14
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gil-my ubuntu wont scream!!!05:14
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bolrod!lart CaptainMorgan05:14
gil-no sound!!!05:14
gil-:S05:14
phreak97dabaR, i realized.. it is mounted, media/s has the same free space as the partition05:14
bolrod'cmon ubotu !05:14
bolrod!lart cantona05:14
bolrod-,-05:14
bolrod!lart CaptainMorgan05:14
cantona?05:14
dabaRphreak97: is it shown under "mount"?05:14
SoulPropagation!lart me05:14
SoulPropagation!lart SoulPropagation05:14
phreak97yes05:14
bolrodseems like ubotu is a bit............05:14
cantona!art bolrod05:15
ubotucantona: Do they come in packets of five?05:15
dabaRthoreauputic: can you?05:15
erikaCaptainMorgan... you should likely look elsewhere. I'm just looking to sort out my OS.05:15
phreak97/dev/hdb6 on /media/s type vfat (rw,umask=000)05:15
bolrod@load lart05:15
bolrodsomething05:15
CaptainMorganerika ?05:15
thoreauputic -->  ubotu unfortunately, lart is disabled in my configuration05:15
CaptainMorganlook elsewhere?05:15
erikaCM?05:15
SoulPropagationhow do i get nfs enabled on the shared folders prefs05:15
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ElitePetewhats a good linux game website05:16
CaptainMorganerika so what's wrong with your os? you dual boot... or do you have separate hd's for each os ?05:16
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mweElitePete: happypenguin.org05:16
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phreak97dabaR, what do you think?05:16
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sagarphow would i go about upgrading to gnome2.14?05:17
dabaRphreak97: you had it mounted under /media/s before?05:17
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ravv_sagarp, there is no such thing?05:17
zazeemneed help plz05:17
mwe!helpme05:17
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.05:17
erikaI gave a spare drive to Ubuntu05:17
jdefanyone experience booting stuck at checking battery state after upgrade05:17
ravv_2.12 in breezy 2.13 in dapper05:17
phreak97dabaR,  i did, yes05:17
rabbit1does ubuntu come with some kind of defragmenter?05:17
phreak97but on the desktop it was called storage05:17
zazeemhow do i change my mouse rate to 500hz on breezy ??05:17
sagarpoh, ravv_ is 2.14 like, bleeding edge or something?05:18
dabaRravv_: there is a world out there other than ubuntu, he wants to compile source, I guess.05:18
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ravv_Dabar, still no 2.1405:18
thoreauputicrabbit1: linux doesn't need a defragmenter usually05:18
zazeemhow do i change my mouse rate to 500hz on breezy ??05:18
rabbit1how come?05:18
thoreauputicrabbit1: becuase it's properly designed ;)05:18
ravv_sagarp, Even numbers are release uneven devel.05:19
rabbit1I'm reading about this ext2 driver for windows...    I'll be writing files from windows, but it can't defrag..   so lets say one day I want to defrag, I'll have to do it from linux05:19
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rabbit1nobody ever defrags?????05:19
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ravv_So next release in about 4-5 months (set date)05:19
dabaRphreak97: it does not look like something I will know about. But I will try telling you some other clues. Look in the configuration editor under Apps>Sys Tools. Post your /etc/fstab to pastebin, please. paste.ubuntu-nl.org.05:19
phreak97dabaR,  what should i try?05:19
phreak97ok05:19
thoreauputicrabbit1:  I have never defragged linux in over 3 years05:19
dabaRphreak97: under apps>nautilus>desktop.05:20
CaptainMorganwhy not thoreauputic ? why not a defragger?05:20
benplautthe family desktop keeps me warm in the cold winter nights :)05:20
alex__im pretty sure linux checks your HDD every 30 bootups or something like that anyway05:20
gil-need help, i have an Intel ICH6 SoundCard and i have no sound :(05:20
phreak97gah, why doesnt clicking a link in xchat open it?05:20
sagarpravv_ oh..well i submitted a screenshot for art.gnome.com, and it had a menu of what gnome version, and 2.14 was in there..i assume it meant 2.14 is available05:20
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: the file system keeps things contiguous by itself05:20
thoreauputicmor or less05:20
thoreauputic*more05:20
dabaRcrimsun: want to help with sound?05:20
rabbit1what if I'm writing files to it from windows?   booting into it through linux will fix it???05:21
CaptainMorgancol05:21
CaptainMorgancool05:21
ravv_Hmm maybe im wrong then :) Brb gotta check05:21
rabbit1wouldn't that take forever?  (say I boot into linux once a year)05:21
dabaRphreak97: cause I did not put http:// in front of it, and the URL does not start with www.05:21
rabbit1haha05:21
zazeemhow do i change my mouse rate to 500hz in brezy?????????????05:21
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dabaRI dont know??????????05:21
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vbgunzMeery Christmas all!05:21
dabaRya, same here, vbgunz05:22
SweetestSavageMerry christmas =)05:22
ravv_sagarp, http://zenii.linux.org.uk/~telsa/GDP/gnome-faq/index.html#AEN10505:22
phreak97dabaR,  it still underlines05:22
vbgunz:)05:22
zazeemcan anyone hep me?05:22
dabaRzazeem: where have you looked?05:22
CaptainMorgan!merry christmas05:22
ubotumethinks merry christmas is Merry Chiristmas to you too, and a happy new year :] 05:22
crimsundabaR: ?05:22
zazeemall over google05:22
thoreauputicrabbit1: defrag your fat32 or ntfs from windows - and don't worry about defragging linux - it isn't necesary05:22
chapiumMERRY CHRISTMAS!05:22
dabaRgil-: meet crimsun. crimsun meet gil-.05:22
SweetestSavagethoreauputic, really? It isn't necessary?05:22
thoreauputicSweetestSavage: correct05:23
SweetestSavagethoreauputic, why is that?05:23
rabbit1thoreauputic: actually I'm talking about sharing an ext2 drive with windows....   and you can't defrag from windows05:23
dabaRcrimsun: he has a intel ich6 sound card.05:23
alex__rabbit1 why would you do that?05:23
phreak97dabaR,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/613705:23
rabbit1do which?05:23
rabbit1share?05:23
rabbit1or defrag?05:23
alex__why would share and ext2 drive with windows that you would consider booting from05:23
rabbit1huh?05:24
dabaRphreak97: go play with those settings now then.05:24
thoreauputicSweetestSavage: because linux filesystems keep stuff in sensible places instead of scattering them about stupidly :)05:24
rabbit1it's just a partition... I want a partition I can access from both05:24
SweetestSavagethoreauputic, heh, I keep hearing good things about Linux every day ;)05:24
dabaRgil-: go ahead, ask crimsun what you need to know.05:24
rabbit1make sense alex?05:24
thoreauputic:)05:24
SweetestSavageReally making Windows look horrible in comparison xD05:24
gil-crimsun!!!05:24
gil-need help05:24
gil-ICH6 intel sound card05:24
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jdefany ideas on that boot error05:24
crimsungil-: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer   --> pastebin05:25
alex__rabbit1 you just really dont need to worry about defragging it05:25
dabaRgil-: pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for example.05:25
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rabbit1even if I write a ton of stuff to it from windows???05:25
phreak97dabaR,  i dont know what settings im playing with05:25
alex__yes05:25
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thoreauputicrabbit1: as I said, ext2/ext3 don't require defragging - so I don't see your problem05:25
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dabaRphreak97: the other two partitions mounted under /media, do they show up?05:25
rabbit1I'm writing from windows though, so it'll treat it like windows partitions05:26
rabbit1won't it???05:26
crimsungil-: open a Terminal and type the commands there05:26
alex__no05:26
phreak97dabaR,  yup05:26
alex__not with the ext2 drivers05:26
zazeemhow do i change my mouse refresh rate in breezy??05:26
dabaRrabbit1: it will treat it how the driver tells it.05:26
ravv_zazeem, give it up05:26
rabbit1right, and I think that's ala windows style (I mean crappy.. lol)05:26
thoreauputicrabbit1: it's a file system thing , not a question of where the data comes from05:26
rabbit1okay cool!05:26
ravv_zazeem, post/search forums05:26
dabaRphreak97: not sure, then. "sudo umount /dev/hdb6 && sudo mount -a"05:27
zazeemhow do i view mouse settings in ubuntu?05:27
dabaRzazeem: System>Prefs>Mouse.05:27
dabaRgil-: you can open a terminal from Apps>Accessories>Terminal in breezy.05:28
phreak97dabaR,  didnt really do anything05:28
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phreak97noticable05:28
dabaRno change, eh? Not sure why it is not putting it there, it should as far as I know. YOu are saying that it does not show up in nautilus when you open a window?05:28
Wilfwhat's the command to set permissions to a folder and all subfolders/files?05:28
dabaRchmod -R05:29
phreak97thats right05:29
Wilfah cool, thanks05:29
dabaR$2005:29
dabaReverything comes with a price tag.05:29
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Wilf$20 hey05:30
Wilfwell i charge you $20 for my presence.05:30
Wilfso it evens out05:30
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dabaRit evens out, I know.05:31
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Wilfgood doing buisiness with you.05:31
GrackleI have found very little information on lucent wavelan cards in ubuntu, but I know they are very well supported in linux. What gives?05:31
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CaptainMorgandammit! why is ftp crashing so often!?05:32
phreak97whats the delete folder command?05:33
SweetestSavagerm -r05:33
CaptainMorganmaybe I have too many processes running?05:33
thoreauputicphreak97: rmdir (for empty folders)05:33
SweetestSavageSo, like this, sudo rm -r /foldername05:33
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: unlikely05:33
Grackle-r is recursive, so it deletes everything in the directories inside the one you specify...05:34
SweetestSavageGrackle, yep..05:34
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: is it an ftp server crashing, or your client?05:34
SweetestSavageThat's what deleting an entire folder is for. Removing it is different05:34
CaptainMorganclient - ftp05:34
ravv_rmdir ?05:34
GrackleYeah, I was just elaborating.05:34
SweetestSavage;)05:34
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: which client? gftp?05:34
CaptainMorganthoreauputic, nah, ftp05:35
CaptainMorgan:)05:35
CaptainMorgangftp's even worse!05:35
GrackleIn what way is it crashing?05:35
CaptainMorgandisconnects like every 5 seconds..05:35
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: you mean command line ftp is crashing? i've never seen that...05:35
Grackleoh05:35
phreak97gah, i unmounted and remounted, even remaking the folders, and it still doesnt show05:35
thoreauputicthat's not a crash05:35
Grackledisconnect != c...yeah...05:35
CaptainMorgangftp disconnects - ftp crashes05:35
dabaRphreak97: restart some of those gnome-panel or natilus with killall.05:36
CaptainMorganI have to force quit it and other times ftp will just disappear05:36
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: erm - is it segfaulting? What errors?05:36
CaptainMorganim not exactly on the command line.. Im using ftp through the gui05:36
phreak97how?05:37
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: that's what I meant by "which client"05:37
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CaptainMorgan? ftp!05:37
phreak97last time i tried to restart gnome i ended up doing a full restart cos i dint know what to do05:37
dabaRphreak97: "killall gnome-panel" will kill the panel. "killall nautilus" will kill the nautilus.05:37
CaptainMorganyou mean which interface?05:37
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: are you using "connect to server" ?05:37
CaptainMorganyes05:37
phreak97how do i restart them then?05:37
CaptainMorganclient is still ftp05:37
thoreauputicOK so it's nautilus05:37
dabaRphreak97: but that is not what seems to be the issue here. But you can try.05:37
dabaRpah05:38
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: yes, but it is nautilus that has the problem05:38
crimsungil-: any progress?05:38
CaptainMorgank..05:38
dabaRCaptainMorgan: ftp is when you run "ftp" in a terminal.05:40
CaptainMorganhow do you do that ?05:40
CaptainMorganftp <server> ?05:40
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CaptainMorganftp <server> <file> ?05:40
thoreauputicdabaR: well, true but ftp is the protocol in either case05:40
dabaRsure, or man ftp, or ftp user@host05:40
phreak97dabaR,  its a dos partition, does that make a difference?05:40
dabaRthoreauputic: heh.05:40
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dabaRphreak97: not to me.05:40
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dabaRphreak97: and you said it was there at some point.05:41
phreak97it was05:41
phreak97i tried mounting it from /dos, rather than /media/s05:41
phreak97i dont know which one actually worked05:41
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dabaRphreak97: media more likely, what is under media shows up there.05:41
CaptainMorganhas anybody dumped nautilus for something better?05:42
CaptainMorganand how ?05:42
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llukaxwhat is nautilus?05:42
SteilCaptainMorgan, what don't you like about nautilus?05:42
CaptainMorgancurious05:42
thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: not dumped - but there are other files managers of course ( e.g konqueror, rox-filer, etc etc )05:42
Agrajagmc05:42
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CaptainMorgan!nautilus05:43
ubotuCaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:43
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CaptainMorganstumped again..05:43
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thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: nautilus is kind of integrated with gnome, so dumping it wouldn't be trivial :)05:44
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thoreauputicCaptainMorgan: nautilus is what you see when you open a folder/directory05:44
Agrajagthoreauputic: sure it would05:44
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Agrajagtake nautilus out of your gnome session and replace it with whatever05:44
thoreauputicAgrajag: depending how much gnomishness you want :)05:44
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thoreauputicor just mv, cp, cat and friends :)05:45
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cheatersrealmanyone have ubuntu working with mythtv and the bt8x8 drivers?05:47
psusianyone know anything about packet writing and udf and cdrws?  I'm trying to figure out how to set up a read/write udf filesystem on a cdrw using the udftools package only the upstream project appears to be dead05:47
rabbit1if anyone is interested in linux and defragging and why it isn't done:      (sorry about the scrolling)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/613805:48
CaptainMorganbout time rabbit1 !05:49
CaptainMorgan;)05:49
rabbit1haha : P05:49
kaffeendhow do I get to view .mov format movies in Ubuntu please guys?05:49
psusirabbit1, it isn't done because most linux users traditionally believe ( falsely ) that linux filesystems are immune to fragmentation05:49
rabbit1so you do it psusi ??05:49
psusibut there is a defrag utility for ext2 but it doesn't appear to be maintained anymore05:49
psusirabbit1, no... I use reiserfs, for which there is no tool availible to defrag05:50
rabbit1reiserfs?05:50
CaptainMorganrabbit1, interesting read...05:51
psusireiserfs is a filesystem developed by Hanz Reiser... it's a bit more efficient at certain things than the conventional ext2 filesystem05:51
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kaffeendthanks dabar05:51
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kaffeendbut .mov is quicktime ;)05:52
thoreauputicpsusi: it isn't that linux filesystems are immune - it's more that the need is so rare05:52
kaffeend!quicktime05:52
ubotuquicktime is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.05:52
eric_hello05:52
dabaRkaffeend: same, afaik05:52
kaffeendokies05:52
CaptainMorgan!realplayer05:52
uboturealplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:52
eric_can someone help me figure some stuff out?05:52
CaptainMorganlike eric_ ?05:52
kaffeendcheers - and Happy Christmas!05:52
psusithoreauputic, the kernel filesystem driver does a good job of minimizing fragmentation, but it does still happen and can be a problem... my /boot partition right now has like 30% fragmentation05:53
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eric_well i'm trying to install java and its probably really easy, but how to you change the directory from where you downloaded something?05:53
CaptainMorgancd usually05:53
eric_i've read the wiki put am still alittle confused05:54
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CaptainMorganoh... you mean your default download directory?05:54
eric_yeah i think05:54
crimsunpsusi: that's not normally a problem, since the only files that matter are your kernel and initrd images05:54
CaptainMorganwhat are you using to install java ?05:54
dabaReric_: give a short sotry to explain.05:54
CaptainMorganeric_,05:54
intelikeycan you use jokers in fstab ?05:55
eric_root terminal05:55
dabaRintelikey: i\only if they are really funny.05:55
psusicrimsun, of course... what else do you think is on /boot that is fragmented?  those are the files that are fragmented05:55
intelikeyand that wasnt05:55
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thoreauputicintelikey: I recommend aces wild ;)05:55
psusicrimsun, it isn't a problem though really... fragmentation is just a performance inhibitor...05:55
glyphWhy is it that DMA defaults to "off" on my CD/DVD[RW]  drives in Breezy?05:56
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thoreauputicintelikey: hey, it's christmas, don't expect wit :)05:56
ColonelKernelhow does one defragment an ext3 drive?05:56
psusiglyph, because some drives break when you turn it on05:56
crimsunpsusi: (there're grub conffiles and the symbol mappings, too)05:56
dabaRon that note....(dont expect a follow up)05:56
thoreauputicColonelKernel: what for?05:56
CaptainMorgannow ColonelKernel you missed everythin in here :)05:56
intelikeyColonelKernel can it be done ?05:56
psusicrimsun, true... those are small though ;)05:56
glyphpsusi: Ah.  Is there a configuration file, or better yet, GUI, where I can turn it on?  Burning CDs like this is torture, and I don't want to have to enter the same command line on every boot (or start monkeying with init.d)05:57
psusiColonelKernel, install the package 'defrag'... it can defrag ext2, but it is of unknown quality/safety... it has not been maintained in some time... just make sure you don't loose power while defragging05:57
ColonelKernelI have heard that fragmentation with ext3 isnt an issue anymore05:57
psusiand you can convert between ext2/3 with tune2fs05:57
GrackleColonelKernel, you don't defrag ext3. It doesn't fragment.05:57
ColonelKernelpsusi, no if it isnt really up to par im not gonna use it - my linux system is gentoo05:58
ColonelKernelGrackle, thats what ive also heard, although im not sure how thats possible.05:58
psusiglyph, hrm... shouldn't be too hard to add the command to init.d... search the forums, I'm sure there's a simple to follow howto on this05:58
psusiColonelKernel, ext3 is just ext2 + a log file05:58
GrackleColonelKernel, I just googled a bit, this guy explains it nicely: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/08/msg03496.html05:58
psusiGrackle, yes, it DOES fragment05:58
ColonelKernelGrackle, thanks05:58
psusinot enough to worry about generally, but it does happen05:59
Gracklepsusi, well yes, but not much.05:59
intelikeyjournel != log file05:59
phreak97dabaR,  it seems to have started working:/05:59
psusiColonelKernel, generally as long as your disk does not get over 80% full you won't need to worry about it... maybe once every 6-12 months, reformat it and start over05:59
phreak97i did remount it05:59
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phreak97somehow05:59
phreak97but i have no rights to it06:00
Wilfmcjerry, are you still here?06:00
phreak97i want full rights to it, since its a storage drive06:00
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phreak97what command do i use?06:00
psusiintelikey, journal = transaction log... it's easier to omit the transaction part for brevity06:00
mcjerryyea man, wasup06:00
Wilfalright all data isw backed up, how do i convert my ntfs drive to ext3?06:00
psusiWilf, delete the partition and make an ext3 one, then restore the data06:01
phreak97anyone?06:01
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legindheya.  somehow I got rid of libstdc++, because it libstdc++.so.6 wasn't specifying the version... now nothing is working.  can someone help?06:01
Wilfis there a gui based partition manager included with breezy?06:01
psusiWilf, yes... gparted is nice... but you will need to use it from the livecd to mess with your boot drive06:01
Wilfit is not my boot drive06:02
psusiwell, either that, or reboot between operations06:02
mcjerryWilf: do you have a windows dual boot setup?06:02
psusiok... then install and run gparted06:02
Wilfnope06:02
intelikeyhmmm lets see   journel 7 chars       log file  8 chars      and that was for the sake of "brevity"       ok ;/06:02
ardchoillew00t!!! I just discovered mail-notification, an app that sits in the tray and monitors gmail accounts for new email.06:02
Wilfi've just gone straight from xp to breezy.06:02
crimsunlegind: you'll need to download the deb and install it manually using dpkg -i06:03
ardchoilleWilf: Awesome! Welcome to a whole new world06:03
mcjerryWilf, gimme a minute, wanna check somethin06:03
crimsunlegind: I presume you're using Breezy?06:03
intelikeyardchoille yeah i hate having to find junk like that to turn it off.....06:03
SAM_themanMERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:03
SAM_themanMERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:04
legindcrimsun, I would, but I can't open a browser because it doesnt have the libstdc++6 library.  its a catch-2206:04
SAM_theman?06:04
CaptainMorgan!merry christmas!!06:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CaptainMorgan06:04
legindcrimsun, yes Im using breezy06:04
CaptainMorgan!merry christmas06:04
ubotusomebody said merry christmas was Merry Chiristmas to you too, and a happy new year :] 06:04
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Wilfardchoille, i used to use hoary, but school made me use windows due to a few certain software packages that i required for my studies...so now schools over and i'm back :P06:04
intelikeyyour xchat probably monitors your mail by default also.06:04
CaptainMorgan!breezy06:04
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:04
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CaptainMorganbreezy rules06:04
SweetestSavage!dapper06:04
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake06:04
CaptainMorgan!clapper06:04
ubotuCaptainMorgan: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:04
ardchoilleWilf: Cool!06:04
ElitePetehow do i not allow a specific program internet access?06:04
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phreak97how hard can it be to give a user permissions to a directory?06:05
crimsunlegind: wget http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_i386.deb06:05
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kaffeend!quicktime06:05
uboturumour has it, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.06:05
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randabis_ubotu: clapper is what you use to cure hangovers06:05
uboturandabis_: okay06:05
randabis_!clapper06:05
ubotusomebody said clapper was what you use to cure hangovers06:05
randabis_hah06:05
[danger] Hello, all. May I ask someone's help in creating a boot disk for edubuntu?06:06
ElitePetehow do i not allow a specific program internet access?06:06
rabbit1I've got a question...   why use ext2 if ext3 is better??06:06
ardchoillerandabis_: no, no.. that's not it.. you cure hangovers by staying drunk ;)06:06
legindawesome, thanks!06:06
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randabis_indeed06:06
thoreauputicElitePete: like what? And why?06:06
pussfellerdoest inetd control programs access to teh internet06:06
Wilfubotu, ubota is a fembot that i'm arranging for you to be married to06:06
ubotuWilf: okay06:06
rabbit1is there any reason to use ext2 over ext3 ???06:06
ElitePetethoreauputic, just because, and doom306:06
intelikeyElitePete generally the easy way would be in that apps settings.06:06
ardchoilleWilf: LOL!06:06
psusirabbit1, ext3 is not "better" it puts up with crashes/power failures better, but is a bit slower06:06
legindcrimsun, I thought I'd have to reinstall Breezy.  Thank so much!06:06
pussfellerrabbit1: ext3 has better recovery features06:06
ElitePeteintelikey, how else?06:07
ardchoilleWilf: careful, fembots have guns in their ****06:07
rabbit1so speed vs recovery?06:07
randabis_ubotu: one day you will procreate and have many children06:07
uboturandabis_: Do they come in packets of five?06:07
intelikeybut as for games i don't game so idk06:07
psusirabbit1, yep...06:07
rabbit1how much slower is it really?06:07
randabis_ubotu: yes, they do06:07
uboturandabis_: Bugger all, i dunno06:07
rabbit1I probably wouldn't notice06:07
psusirabbit1, depends on what you are doing exactly... but for typical desktop use, you aren't going to notic06:07
psusinotice even06:07
Wilfardchoille, jubblies, as mr. powers so suavely put it...06:07
randabis_ubotu: are you lonely?06:07
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, randabis_06:07
pussfellerElitePete: you can bloc outgoing connections on that port06:07
rabbit1so I should go with ext3 then06:07
psusiso you should just use ext3 for safety06:07
ardchoillehehe06:07
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rabbit1thanks06:08
thoreauputicrabbit1: you probably wouldn't, indeed (not much diff)06:08
kaffeendhey thoreauputic! Long time no see - happy holidays :D06:08
ElitePetepussfeller, ok. how?06:08
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pussfellerhow good is fat for crashes, unplugging without mounting, etc'06:08
thoreauputickaffeend: hi :) And ditto to you06:08
randabis_ubotu: love is what I got, just remember that06:08
ubotu...but love is already something else...06:08
rabbit1unplugging without mounting ??06:08
kaffeendthanks06:08
pussfellerElitePete: dk06:08
randabis_!love06:08
ubotuLove is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.06:08
GrackleRiiiight.06:08
thoreauputicrandabis_: please don't stuff the bot with useless factoids06:09
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pussfelleri got this 250 gig usb drive with one fat partition and i worry if it oculd get fuxored by a crash06:09
CaptainMorganubotu: love is in the air06:09
ubotu...but love is already something else...06:09
ardchoillerandabis_: love is a sixpack, a pizza and IRC06:09
intelikeylol06:09
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randabis_thoreauputic: I'm having a conversation with our bot, no harm done06:09
intelikey!bot snack06:09
ubotu:)06:09
[danger] Hi.  Does anyone here know how to create a bootable floppy using dd from a .bin  file?06:09
kaffeendokay I'm having some trouble playing a quicktime movie with totem... can anyone help me out please?06:09
randabis_besides, ubotu already knew what love is06:09
phreak97please...06:10
randabis_ubotu: love can be multiple things06:10
psusipussfeller, fat has no fault tolorance either...06:10
uboturandabis_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:10
randabis_haha06:10
phreak97now that i have the drive, i want to use it06:10
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psusi[danger] , dd if=foo.bin of=/dev/fd006:10
intelikey[danger]  did you try running the bin ?06:10
pussfellerpsusi: so how easy is it to corrupt the whole drive06:10
SweetestSavageMerry Christmas everyone =)06:10
ardchoilleubotu: nautilus scripts is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+scripts06:11
ubotuokay, ardchoille06:11
randabis_ardchoille: I've actually done all of those activities today06:11
[danger] psusi: Thank you.  Let me try and run that.06:11
psusipussfeller, relative to what?06:11
ardchoilleubotu: nautilus scripts06:11
ubotunautilus scripts is, like, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+scripts06:11
phreak97isnt setting access permissions really basic?06:11
ardchoillerandabis_: you da man :)06:11
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pussfellerpsusi: like etx3, im just kinda worried about loosing all that stuff06:11
SweetestSavage!nautilus06:11
ubotuSweetestSavage: Are you smoking crack?06:11
SweetestSavageNo I'm not ;_;06:11
SweetestSavageI'm wondering wtf it is xD06:11
psusipussfeller, if you can, switch it to ext3 then...06:11
kaffeendhi benplaut :D06:12
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thoreauputicSweetestSavage: it's the gnome file manager06:12
SweetestSavageAhh, okay. Thanks =p06:12
benplauthi kaffeend :)06:12
kaffeendcan anyone help me out with totem please?06:12
sledge__MERRY CHRISTMAS06:12
ardchoilleubotu: crontab tutorial is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102626&highlight=crontab+tutorial06:13
ubotuokay, ardchoille06:13
kaffeendHappy Hallmark everyone!06:13
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GrackleIt tastes green.06:14
intelikeyso will jokers(wild cards for the morons) work in fstab?   or does anyone know ?06:14
CaptainMorgan!hallmark06:14
ubotuCaptainMorgan: Are you smoking crack?06:14
kaffeendlol06:14
CaptainMorganhahha06:14
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kaffeend!crack06:14
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.06:14
crimsunintelikey: wildcards for what?06:14
intelikeyin file/dir names06:14
borisattvaguy i'm expereincing some difficulties mounting a WD NAS drive on the network. accessing it is not a problem via smb://etcetc and it later even 'automounted' to be displayed at Desktop, but when i try to mount it so its accessible via a local directory using sudo mount /mnt/library smb://library wants fs specified. putting the line into fstab with fs data just gives me --help responce.  puttign down the NAS ip address gets rejected a06:15
borisattvas well because WD stores their util at the root when navigating through IP which in turn is just another subfolder on that hard disk. any ideas?06:15
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Wilfhow easy.06:15
crimsunintelikey: no, too ambiguous06:15
Wilfso now what do i edit my fstab to to take count of the fact that it is now ext3, and not ntfs?06:15
intelikeywell that's krap06:15
epmTo change my system to boot to a command prompt, I change the runlevel in inittab, correct?06:15
crimsunepm: no. We don't play runlevel games.06:16
irvinWilf: sudo nano /etc/fstab then change ntfs to ext306:16
crimsunepm: echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager06:16
intelikeyepm yes you can do that.06:16
Wilfah cool.06:16
psusiborisattva, you must specify the filesystem type... mount -t smbfs06:16
intelikeyremove the entry for gdm in one of the /etc/rc#.d/   and set it to that runlevel.06:17
Wilfleave the umask=0222 0 0 bit>06:17
Wilf?06:17
epmI want to be able to swap KDE and Gnome quickly and efficiently for development purposes06:17
psusiWilf, change "ntfs" to "ext3" and get rid of any umask,uid,gid parameters06:17
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benplautwhat's the abbreviation for backspace?06:17
Wilfalrighty06:17
intelikeyepm easy is to remove it from rc2.d   the default and not touch inittab06:17
Wilfdel?06:17
kaffeendI installed the quicktime codec and don't know what app to use it with - can anyone help please?06:18
pussfelleryeah, im getting tired of kdm and gdm too06:18
ElitePete!botsnac06:18
ElitePete!botsnack06:18
crimsunintelikey: don't ever suggest editing /etc/inittab for that purpose.06:18
ubotuWish i knew, ElitePete06:18
ubotu:)06:18
epmPerfect, I'd rather do that then, sounds safer06:18
intelikeycrimsun order someone else.06:18
borisattvapsusi: i did, i used this line "smb://library     /mnt/library  smbfs   credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777   0       0", the smb:// gets rejected, so i tried the //ipaddress as well, but like i said that gets me to the folder wit the config util, which is a subfolder in the root of the NAS06:18
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone06:18
Inf3ctedFxI have a problem right now to play a dvd on mplayer06:18
irvinWilf: you can get rid of it, see also the other ext2 entries, or man mount for more information06:18
crimsunintelikey: it doesn't even work as you think it will.06:18
kaffeendhello06:19
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intelikeycrimsun blah blah blah06:19
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intelikeyyou have no idea what i think.06:19
Inf3ctedFxit was playing normal, but no sound, so I check the audio and was fine, I restar mplayer but now I have an error message:  MPlayer interrupted by signal in module: ao2_init06:19
pussfellerhes right tho, the best way is to take it out of the services06:19
crimsuntake this to private if you wish to discuss it.06:19
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epmso just remove S13gdm from rc2.d folder?06:20
kaffeendInf3ctedFx how did you install mplayer?06:20
intelikeyyes epm06:20
Inf3ctedFxyes I did using the apr-get06:20
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epmthanks, please don't argue :)06:20
Inf3ctedFxkaffeend:  I use apt-get install mplayer-58606:20
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psusiborisattva, iirc, it should be "server:share /mnt/library smbfs credentials...etc 0 006:20
kaffeendthanks! :D06:20
ravv_dapper rules06:20
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Wilfpsusi, what did i do wrong? :( http://pastebin.com/47812106:21
kaffeenddoh - I just tried that and it couldn't find the package06:21
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mcjerryWilf: i haven't forgot about you, i got the windows version of Paragon Partition Manager, but am trying to get the recovery cd for ya....it is linux bootable to convert ntfs to fat3206:22
kaffeendcan someone pleeeease help me configure my media player?06:22
CaptainMorganwhich one?06:22
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kaffeendCaptainMorgan if you mean me, Totem06:23
intelikeycool off did ya ?06:23
crimsunintelikey: take this to private if you wish to discuss it.06:23
[danger] psusi: Thanks.  Worked like a charm.  Now I need to play with the boot disk to see if I can make it do what I want it to.  Thanks again.06:23
psusiWilf, the last line has no options... you have to specify something, even if it is just "defaults"06:23
psusi[danger] , cool...06:24
CaptainMorgankaffeend, more details06:24
Wilfmcjerry, i already converted it :P06:24
psusianyone know anything about using the "udftools" package to set up a fully read/write udf filesystem on a cdrw?  I can't make it work, and it looks like the upstream project is defunct06:25
Wilfah ok, thanks psusi06:25
mcjerryk, np, wasn't paying attn06:25
kaffeendI tried sudo apt-get install libquicktime1 so I can watch a quicktime game trailer in totem, and it doesn't play it :(06:25
mcjerryWilf: what did you use to convert?06:25
kaffeendCaptainMorgan that was for you btw06:25
Wilfmcjerry, gparted. it was quick, simple and painless06:25
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mcjerrykewl....never used gparted.....06:26
CaptainMorgan!totem06:26
ubotuCaptainMorgan: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:26
CaptainMorganomg06:26
CaptainMorganfreakin bot06:26
kaffeendlol06:26
irvin!totem-xine06:26
ubotuwell, totem-xine is like, totally, sudo apt-get install totem-xine. To play non-free formats, get the w32codecs. The instructions are at http://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Codecs06:26
kaffeendhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:26
kaffeenddid that06:27
kaffeendrebooted and it's still doing nada06:27
irvinkaffeend: you have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?06:27
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crimsunintelikey: apologies, I misread your statement06:27
intelikeythat's good.06:27
kaffeendirvin I have no idea06:28
irvinkaffeend: i've had problems with totem-gstreamer, so i use totem-xine instead06:28
irvin!totem-xine06:28
ubotutotem-xine is, like, totally, like, totally, sudo apt-get install totem-xine. To play non-free formats, get the w32codecs. The instructions are at http://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Codecs06:28
gn0meHow can I kill X temporarily?06:29
irvinsee, you need w32codecs06:29
kaffeendI have them06:29
intelikeygn0me sudo killall gdm06:29
stevedDoes anyone know of recommended laptop(s) that have out-of-the-box ubuntu support? Wireless, bluetooth, suspend, etc.06:29
kaffeendI did follow the walkthrough in the wiki page linked06:29
crimsunsteved: the X-series ThinkPads do06:29
intelikeygn0me sudo gdm to restart it06:30
gn0meintelikey: And when I do that.. it will throw me to the terminal.. or I still have to log off X?06:30
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intelikeyit will kill X06:30
irvinsteved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam06:30
stevedcrimsun: I thought they might. Know of anything else?06:30
gn0mekk06:30
crimsunsteved: check wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam06:30
SweetestSavagegn0me, it's supposed to do that06:30
kaffeendSetting up totem-xine (1.2.1-0ubuntu1~breezy1) ...06:30
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stevedirvin/crimsun: Thanks.06:30
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insanepicklejarI don't suppose that one of you guys knows how to set up dual boot sys?06:31
kaffeendwill I need to do anything else b4 I reboot irvin?06:31
dalhow do i use my new mouse i got for my laptop?06:31
intelikeyinsanepicklejar most of us.06:31
insanepicklejarwell i thought so06:31
crimsuninsanepicklejar: installing Ubuntu on a HD that already has XP on it does that for you automatically (in nearly every case)06:31
irvinkaffeend: ummm... i don't think so since you've got the codecs already06:32
insanepicklejardon't need to add partitions06:32
insanepicklejar?06:32
irvinkaffeend: do you really have to reboot?06:32
dali only have ubuntu06:32
kaffeendirvin couldn't hurt06:32
intelikeyfor grub edit /boot/grub/menu.list   for lilo edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo06:32
crimsuninsanepicklejar: you'll do that through the Guided Partitioning option in the installer06:32
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insanepicklejarhow should I set the partitions? or how many should i say06:32
crimsuninsanepicklejar: if you're not sure, choose the default.06:33
kaffeendirvin - but I might get rid of totem - gstreamer first?06:33
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Wilfchmod 666 = makes all users have full access?06:33
insanepicklejarthanks you guys!06:33
insanepicklejarbig help06:33
dalit says no such file or directore06:33
intelikeyone   /       one  /home if you want to preserv personal settings on reload or change of distro06:33
kaffeendhey - It works! I can hardly believe my eyes!06:34
kaffeendThanks a lot irvin :D06:34
irvinkaffeend: see :D06:34
kaffeendbut no sound :(06:34
irvinhmm06:34
intelikeyWilf 6 != full access   7 = full access    6 = read + write06:35
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vrubi have a dumb question06:35
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insanepicklejarOh!  Happy Chrismahanukwanzaka to all of you.06:35
Wilfah, 777.06:35
vrubhow do i zip a folder ?06:35
kaffeendwow - all that to watch a 1:48 minute clip :O06:35
intelikey1=exec 2=read 4=write     and add them up  it's binarry.06:36
vrubis there a simple click and add to archive by any chance ?06:36
borisattvapsusi: when i try to 'mount -a' that i get a --help equivalent responce as if syntax is wrong. i tried it with 'library:music' (library is the 'name ' of the NAS on the network, and music is one of the folders in the root06:36
kaffeendand the clip kinda sucked06:36
vrubanyone know how ?06:37
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crimsunvrub: try file-roller06:37
ElitePeteFatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)06:38
Wilfwhat is wrong with the command chmod 766 /mnt/storage?06:38
intelikeyvrub cli is the best on that. but yes try fileroller   or what ever compression mannager ub defaults to.06:38
ElitePetecan somone tell me what thati s.06:38
crimsunElitePete: more context, please06:38
intelikeycompression/archive    ^06:38
kaffeendI can get system sounds and listen to MP3s in XMMS but Totem does nothing - am I meant to install something does anyone know?06:38
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ElitePetecrimsun, i'm trying to play Descent206:39
crimsunkaffeend: are you using the alsa output plugin for xmms?06:39
chapiumhere's a silly icon06:39
kaffeendI dunno crimson06:39
chapiumhere's a silly question*06:39
ElitePetehttp://www.descent2.de/index.html06:39
intelikeyWilf it is only accessable to owner.06:39
kaffeendcrimsun* sorry06:39
chapiumwhere are the login icons stored?06:39
j1good evening all, and Merry Christmas06:39
chapiumi have one with this dude with a beard06:39
chapiumwhere are the others?06:39
kaffeendmerry xmas jl06:39
intelikeydirs need to be executed to cd into them.06:39
crimsunWilf: I don't think you want 766. If it's an NTFS partition, you need to mount it with umask=02206:39
vrubcrimsun or intelikey for file-roller, do i have to launch it and then add things to it or is there an easy click add06:39
Wilfcrimsun, it is ext3 now06:39
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j1can anyone help with getting a Western Digital Media Center drive working with 5.10 Hairy Beaver?06:40
crimsunWilf: make it 75506:40
kaffeendlol06:40
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Wilfit is 755 at the moment06:40
Wilfand i can't drag and drop files :(06:40
Wilf777 i suppose...06:40
crimsunWilf: (you typed 766)06:40
crimsunis it's 777?06:40
Wilfyes i wanted 76606:40
Wilfbut that is not good?06:40
kaffeendhairy beaver lol06:41
crimsunyou can't drag and drop files if you're not the owner.06:41
kaffeendoh... mercy06:41
intelikeywilf no06:41
ElitePetewhats the correct apt-get cmd to install SDL ?06:41
Wilfthat leaves 777 then...06:41
Fushiapt-get install sdl? :P06:41
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Fushiwith a sudo of course06:41
ElitePeteFushi, nope06:41
drcodehi all06:41
crimsunWilf: who owns that directory?06:42
Fushihmm06:42
drcodehow can I install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu breezy?06:42
kaffeendcrimsun was there a follow up to your last question?06:42
Wilfowner at the moment...06:42
intelikeypermissions  are   1=exec 2=read 4=write     and add them up  it's binarry.     so any odd number is executable while any even number is not executable.   dirs need to be executable if you wish to enter them.06:42
j1any ideas on the Western Digital Media Center? It is a firewire device that I know has connectivity because I am using dvgrab capture from a DV camera attached to it06:42
intelikeyWilf ^06:42
Fushiwell then apt-cache search sdl06:42
crimsunkaffeend: yes, check what output plugin you're using. Preferences06:42
Fushiand pick which one you want06:42
kaffeendok06:42
Fushithen apt-get install it06:42
Wilfyuh, so 6 = read and write06:43
irvin!firefox06:43
ubotu[firefox]  a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.06:43
Wilfand 7 = read and write and execute06:43
intelikeyyep but no exec  so no enter.06:43
intelikeyyes all06:43
Wilfah ok, so i want 777.06:43
intelikeyyes06:43
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crimsunvrub: it's much easier: Just use Nautilus to do it. Select the folders, then secondary-click and choose Create Archive.06:44
Wilfsudo chmod 777 /mnt/storage does nothing though...06:44
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drcodeit isntall only v1.0706:44
crimsunWilf: the user 'owner' owns it?06:44
Wilfmmmm there is no owner user...06:45
kaffeendcrimsun - ah there's no mention of alsa in xmms preferences06:45
intelikeyit is set in fstab  as umask=    and the number after the = is subtracted from 7   so to set 777  use  umask=00006:45
irvindrcode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:45
kootaphorTrying to find a good music player: tried a ton, but I'm looking for something that handles TONS of songs as smoothly and quickly as Winamp's Media Library?06:45
Wilfit just says i'm not the owner, so i can't change it...06:45
vrubcrimsun yeah that works but it only lets you make tar balls right ?06:45
Wilfeven as root :|06:45
crimsunkaffeend: in the output plugins06:45
alex__are there any good alternatives to nautilus besides bash heh06:45
intelikeyWilf read my post ^06:45
Wilfah cool cool.06:45
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kaffeendfor xmms or my system in general crimsun?06:46
kaffeendor totem?06:46
kootaphoralex__ - the browser in xfce is cool--i think its called xffm or something06:46
crimsunkaffeend: xmms06:46
drcodethanx06:46
crimsunvrub: you can bzip2 those tarballs06:47
intelikeywilf after setting the umask in fstab   do a    sudo mount -o remount /mnt/storage06:47
centOGGkaffeend: bmp06:47
kaffeendcentOGG sorry?06:47
vrubcrimsun does winrar handle tarballs ?06:47
intelikeyor gzip them06:47
crimsunvrub: certain types of files compress more compactly with different algorithms. Try the p7zip package.06:47
crimsunvrub: yes06:47
vrubcrimsun ahh then i will stick with tarballs, i was just afraid i wouldnt be able to open them later06:47
Wilfmmmm wrong fs type error :\06:48
kaffeendcrimsun: I don't even have an output plugin tab in xmms06:48
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crimsunkaffeend: options> preferences> plugins06:48
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Wilfintelikey, http://pastebin.com/47813406:48
centOGGkaffeend: beep media player06:48
intelikeytar.gz is pretty good  although  like crimsun said with some formats  tar.bz2 may compress better.06:49
j1what are tar balls?06:49
crimsunj1: another name for tar files06:49
gn0metarball is a way for making multiple files into one06:49
kaffeendcrimsun - I do have alsa but it's not default06:49
gn0methen usually you gzip it06:49
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crimsunkaffeend: is it set to oss or esd instead? If so, change it to alsa.06:49
j1oh, ok.  i thought it was something else06:49
j1like what happened when I was in the army06:50
kaffeendOSS06:50
Wilfa tarball is what you get after doing burnouts on a road that has just been laid and hasn't set yet :P06:50
kaffeendcrimsun - why? I'm listening to music06:50
intelikeywifl  i'd sujest /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage  ext3     defaults,user        0       006:50
crimsunkaffeend: do other media types play fine in totem-xine?06:50
crimsun(with sound)06:51
j1inte likey!!! how are you06:51
intelikeyhehhe it's ext3  umask affects MS fs's06:51
kaffeendquicktime plays but without audio crimsun06:51
intelikeysorry i thought you were using vfat Wilf06:51
kaffeendI've only got 1 movie source tho06:51
kaffeendso I can't test other formats yet06:52
crimsunkaffeend: but other audio files can be heard just fine, correct?06:52
Wilfah, ok.06:52
ElitePetecan ubuntu use RPMs ?06:52
gn0meYou can convert them with alien06:52
kaffeendI can play plain audio in totem?06:52
gn0meWhich.. might not always work.06:52
crimsunkaffeend: yes06:52
j1yes, my ubuntu server has a 7200 RPM hard drive06:52
kaffeendok I'll check06:52
mcjerryWilf: remember when we gedit /etc/fstab earlier and told it ntfs, just go change that to new filesys type06:52
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mcjerryWilf: then mount -a again06:53
kaffeendcrimsun - yes it works06:53
Wilfyuh i can see the new partition mcjerry, but the permissions don't let me write to it through nautilus :\06:53
[danger] hello, again.  Could someone show me how to determine the I/O ports for my CDROM drive from the command line?06:53
kaffeendand it sounds a lot better than xmms too :D06:53
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Wilfso i'm trying to change the permissions, but they're still stuck at 755!06:53
crimsunkaffeend: then it's a w32codecs issue06:53
intelikeythen doing an chown <yourname> /mnt/storage  -R will probably be the thing you are looking for Wilf    then you can set the permissions like you like on all files and dirs in /mnt/storage    and it's sub dirs.06:53
ElitePetegn0me, i installed aliean, how do i convert an rpm ?06:53
kaffeendhmmm06:53
gn0meElitePete: "alien <file.rpm>"06:54
mcjerryWilf: in terminal, try sudo nautilus and see if you can write to filesystem as root user06:54
gn0meElitePete: Should convert it to a .deb file, then you can try a "dpkg --install file.deb"06:54
gn0meAnyone know which package adds "Open a Terminal" to your gnome right-click menu?06:55
gn0meI can't remember. :-\06:55
Wilfhmmm. mcjerry, i can as root06:55
crimsunElitePete: converting rpms is a suboptimal approach. Always check if the package is available in the Ubuntu repository first.06:55
mcjerryif so, is confirmed permission issue.....06:55
intelikeyWilf own them06:55
Wilftried, it didn't do anything :(06:55
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davisbaumung05hello06:56
Wilfi must be doing something wrong...06:56
ElitePetegn0me, it says it created the .deb but i dont see it06:56
gn0medavisbaumung05: Hello.06:56
gn0meElitePete: ls *.deb .. should be in the directory.06:56
kaffeendanyone know if I can play 2.5d games with the standard graphics drivers in breezy?06:56
davisbaumung05hi i will watch for a bite06:56
mcjerryWilf: brb, need to check something else, you gonna need to gedit /edt/fstab again06:56
gn0meElitePete: It will have the same name as the RPM06:56
mcjerrywe need to change permissions there06:56
Wilfok mcjerry06:56
ElitePetepete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/Downloads/FF$ ls *.deb06:57
ElitePetels: *.deb: No such file or directory06:57
gn0meHuh.. that's strange.06:57
ElitePetebefore it said. sdl-devel_1.0.8-2_i386.deb generated06:57
mcjerryWilf: what version Ubuntu again?06:57
gn0meAnd you're sure you're in the same dir as the RPM was in?06:57
ElitePeteyea.06:57
Wilfmcjerry, 5.1006:57
gn0meKill your neighbour, that might help.06:57
intelikeyWilf are you sure that      sudo chown <put your name here>  /mnt/storage  -R        didn't do anything  you can  ls -l /mnt   to see if it did or not.06:57
kootaphorjust answered my own question--if you want really kickass search capability for your bigass music collection--try MADMAN.  Way faster than amarok06:57
alex__madman word06:58
mcjerryWilf: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions06:58
gn0meElitePete: I've only ever converted like three RPMs in my linux career.. soo.. that seems odd.06:58
gn0meElitePete: Never had a problem yet. :-\06:58
intelikeywilf when you own it, it is = with your $HOME you do what you like there.06:58
ElitePetehow do i search my whole pc06:58
ElitePetefor that file?06:58
ElitePete sdl-devel_1.0.8-2_i386.deb06:58
intelikeyfind / -name sdl-devel_1.0.8-2_i386.deb06:59
mcjerryWilf: was not payin attention earlier, what filesys did you finally convert too, fat32?06:59
gn0meI don't even know.. maybe "find / | grep sdl-devel06:59
gn0meOr that..06:59
intelikeyElitePete you might sudo it if it errors out on unable to read blah.06:59
[danger] Has anyone here used the Smart Boot Manager?06:59
Wilfmcjerry, ext3. however, intelikey's $HOME explanation fixed my problem.06:59
Wilfthanks so much bot of you.07:00
Wilfboth even.07:00
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Wilfand you too ubotu.07:00
irvinElitePete: are trying to install sdl?07:00
ElitePeteirvin, yes buddy07:00
can-o-wormsdoes kubuntu have any kind of gui to display how much space is left on local hard disks?07:00
davisbaumung05is this a game one07:00
mcjerryk, good07:00
irvinElitePete: from an rpm package?07:00
ElitePeteirvin well i alien'07:00
ElitePeteit to .deb..07:00
ElitePetenow i cant find the .deb07:00
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ElitePetescratch that.. found it07:00
irvinElitePete: can you give a description of sdl please?07:00
crimsuncan-o-worms: gnome-system-tools07:01
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Wilfbbl, 80gb's to transfer...07:01
irvinElitePete: game boy emulator?07:01
Wilfover usb :|07:01
ElitePeteirvin, no07:01
intelikeyWilf i would have went there at first rather than chacing that umask rabbit but i picked up on the permissions and thought it was a vfat shared partition....  sorry for the run around.07:01
Josh43ok, I know this is off topic, but I am at my sanity's end... ; does anyone know a bootable Floppy distro that I can load the 3cxfe574bt pcmcia card (3c574_cs.o) and mount a fat32 drive with?07:01
can-o-wormscrimsun: kubuntu ;)07:01
intelikeychaseing07:01
crimsuncan-o-worms: KDE has its own in the System(s) menu07:01
Wilfintelikey, no problems, thanks so much for the help, i now know how to change permissions.07:02
crimsuncan-o-worms: have you asked in #kubuntu?07:02
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intelikeyand what to change them too07:02
Wilf77707:02
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irvinElitePete: i found 52 matching packages for sdl07:02
j1has anyone heard of shubuntu?07:02
can-o-wormscrimsun: .. i didn't know there was a kubuntu channel07:02
mcjerryWilf: sorry wasn't paying attention to fs type....wasn't any help this time07:02
irvinElitePete: http://packages.ubuntu.com07:02
j1it runs on a flash drive in your sneakers07:02
foxinesstime to go , see you soon07:03
crimsunkaffeend: the trailers from apple.com play fine here (using totem-gstreamer w/ w32codecs)07:03
SweetestSavageDoes anybody know of a general equalizer settings thing in Ubuntu for sound? Because my bass is set way too high..07:03
crimsunkaffeend: (I'm using Dapper, though)07:03
intelikeythat is world everything for privet everything  try  700    or  even 740 for group readonly owner everything.07:03
Josh43Please? Anyone?07:03
crimsunSweetestSavage: if you're lucky, your hardware provides eq07:03
kaffeendcrimsun - interesting07:03
kaffeendmaybe it's the file itself?07:03
SweetestSavagecrimsun, any ideas as to where I can check this out?07:03
Josh43I've been working at this non-stop for 2 weeks07:03
crimsunSweetestSavage: which card?07:03
SweetestSavagecrimsun, ALC85007:04
crimsunkaffeend: got a url?07:04
onkarshindeAnyone using totem from breezy-backports? I need someone to confirm a bug07:04
kaffeendI'll get some more - for scientific purposes of corse! ;)07:04
SweetestSavagecrimsun, I don't even think the drivers for it are installed07:04
crimsunSweetestSavage: that's a codec, not a driver. cat /proc/asound/cards07:04
intelikeyj1 what is shubuntu ?07:04
kaffeendhang on07:04
SweetestSavagecrimsun, that's the name of it.. =S07:04
SweetestSavagecrimsun, it's an AC97 RealTek07:04
crimsunSweetestSavage: trust me, that's the codec.07:04
j1intelikey: I don't know07:04
crimsunSweetestSavage: the 850s are powered by the hda-intel driver, i.e., snd-hda-intel07:05
SweetestSavagecrimsun, NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at 0xfebfb000, irq 2007:05
ElitePetehow do i search packages again?07:05
intelikeyfind07:05
irvinElitePete: http://packages.ubuntu.com07:05
SweetestSavagecrimsun, it's onboard aswell.. my mobo is an ASUS K8N07:05
intelikeyoh or apt-cache search07:05
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ElitePetehow do i search packages again? from termina ll07:05
crimsunSweetestSavage: s/850/880/07:05
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SweetestSavagecrimsun, it also gave me this: MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 507:05
irvinElitePete: or sudo apt-cache search <package>07:05
crimsunSweetestSavage: so you're using snd-intel8x007:05
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kaffeendcrimsun: http://www.s2games.com/savage/downloads/savage_e3_trailer.mov07:06
crimsunSweetestSavage: (so no, you don't have hardware eq)07:06
crimsunkaffeend: wgetting.07:06
intelikeydepends on what you mean search packages   could even be  dpkg -l07:06
SweetestSavagecrimsun, ah. I think it's because my drivers aren't installed.07:06
ElitePetei need lsdlmixer07:06
ElitePetebut i can't find it..07:06
crimsunSweetestSavage: they are if you have that information.07:06
irvinElitePete: you'll have better luck finding your package online since it searches all repos that you may have not yet enabled locally07:06
SweetestSavagecrimsun, oh okay.07:06
SweetestSavagecrimsun, well, my bass is set really high and I don't know why..07:06
Wilfarf arf arf...there's my filesystem fixed, what's next...07:06
Wilfargh, twinview :\07:06
intelikeyapt-cache search lsdlmixer07:06
SweetestSavagecrimsun, I think it was because I altered the EQ in XMMS07:06
ElitePeteirvin, i have all the ubuntu repos enabled07:06
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intelikeyapt-cache search lsdl07:07
crimsunSweetestSavage: then you can simply reset the eq in xmms07:07
can-o-wormscrimsun: there is no one talking kubuntu and there is nothing in the system menu that will show me what i want07:07
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SweetestSavagecrimsun, I tried that.. it's still the same, I'm guessing it's pretty buggy07:07
intelikeyand s/search/show/ on the package you think may be it.07:07
odatwhat is a good program to burn bin and cue files07:07
ElitePeteconfigure: error: Could not find -lSDL_mixer07:08
intelikeyapt-cache search lsdl07:08
ElitePetedoesn't find it intelikey.07:08
cmathesonElitePete: you need to install the libsdl1.2-mixer-dev packge07:08
crimsunSweetestSavage: did you try turning off the eq?07:08
intelikeythat error looks fishy tho07:08
irvinElitePete: try mixer07:08
onkarshindeElitePete: What are you trying to install?07:08
intelikey   -lSDL    ?07:08
SweetestSavagecrimsun, one sec, maybe I just fixed it..07:09
ElitePeteonkarshinde, some game07:09
irvinElitePete: its sdl-mixer07:09
SweetestSavagecrimsun, yeah it was on "Auto". I turned that off and it seems to be fixed now, thanks07:09
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SweetestSavagecrimsun, oh wait. Nevermind =/07:09
ElitePeteE: Couldn't find package sdl-mixer07:09
crimsunElitePete: libsdl-mixer1.2-dev?07:10
intelikeyyeah the -l is supposed to be seperate... hah  i knew that didn't look right.07:10
onkarshindeElitePete: lib-sdl-mixer07:10
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onkarshindeElitePete: and dev package07:10
FushiElitePete: search it07:10
ElitePetelibsdl-mixer1.2-dev07:11
ElitePetefound it.07:11
ElitePetethanks07:11
irvin:D07:11
Josh43Ok, since noone knows how to help me, can anyone tell me where I might find something like that floppy distro w/3c574_cs driver)? some other irc channel?07:11
crimsunkaffeend: I have no audio with that file.07:11
onkarshindeJosh43: what are you looking for?07:11
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onkarshindecrimsun: what are you trying to play?07:12
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crimsunJosh43: does the live cd not work?07:12
Josh43onkarshinde, I'll just re-post, if you don't mind;07:12
Josh43ok, I know this is off topic, but I am at my sanity's end... ; does anyone know a bootable Floppy distro that I can load the 3cxfe574bt pcmcia card (3c574_cs.o) and mount a fat32 drive with?07:12
crimsunonkarshinde: kaffeend is attempting to get sound w/ http://www.s2games.com/savage/downloads/savage_e3_trailer.mov07:12
onkarshindeJosh43: ever heard of mulinux?07:12
Josh43crimsun, No cdrom :(07:12
crimsunJosh43: can the machine netboot via pxe?07:13
Josh43onkarshinde, Yes, and I tried it.. but I couldn't get that driver going; wasn't on there that I could see07:13
onkarshindecrimsun: Even I am having trouble with quicktime movies07:13
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Josh43crimsun, Nope; pcmcia 3com card07:13
HoxzerQuicktime is not fast time07:13
intelikeyJosh43 google blueflop  and see if thats it.07:13
Josh43intelikey, Tried that one too07:13
intelikeybasic ?07:14
crimsunonkarshinde: that one plays fine, but there's no sound. I have not tested with another app besides totem-gstreamer.07:14
intelikeyi don't think basic has cs services tho07:14
onkarshindeJosh43: http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/07:14
kaffeendcrimsun I have sound in totem playing a wmv file07:14
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crimsunkaffeend: is that savage trailer supposed to have audio?07:15
onkarshindekaffeend: Are you usinh totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?07:15
xenexI don't know if I should switch to Kubuntu or stay with Ubuntu, anyone want to tell me pros and cons about Kubuntu07:15
crimsunxenex: try it yourself: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:15
onkarshindexenex: And why do you want to switch?07:15
Josh43onkarshinde, Is there an addon pack for that driver? or did I look for it wrong on there?07:16
xenexonkarshinde: I don't even know.07:16
intelikeyJosh43  what about dling DSL and open the iso and copy the kernel out and booting dsl from loadlin    na not unless you're and old hand at it.... nm07:16
crimsuncan-o-worms: nowhere in the KDE menu?07:16
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can-o-wormscrimsun: nevermind, i found something... thanks07:16
onkarshindeJosh43: Ok. Ignored that driver thing. What the driver is for. What do you want to do?07:16
onkarshindexenex: then there is no need to switch07:17
Josh43intelikey, I think I'm about 6mo off that sort of stuff.. most of that makes sense, cept loadlin :)07:17
intelikeyonkarshinde i'd say it's for a net install.07:17
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Josh43onkarshinde, Yeah, basically what intelikey said07:17
vrubman tar balls saved me nothing in space, closed down like 100 mb ...07:18
crimsunJosh43: you can use sarge's boot diskettes to install base, then cross-grade to Breezy.07:18
kaffeendonkarshinde and crimsun - I'm using xine and I don't CARE about that other vid now! After watching http://savage2.s2games.com/downloads/savage2_teaser_640.wmv07:18
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intelikeyloadlin is a linux boot loader that you execute from a booted dos system    but it cant boot ubuntu cause they made the initrd.img to stinking big.07:18
kaffeendOMFG!!!07:18
kaffeendthank god I still have windows to play it on :D07:19
Josh43crimsun, That actually sounds very tempting, but it's a beast of an old laptop: 8mb of ram, 48607:19
Darkheartquick question, when I try to install Ubuntu it doesn't recognise my keyboard (hit enter for install and then no response) happened with Fedora too07:19
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Josh43Darkheart, USB keyboard?07:19
onkarshindekaffeend: sorry, But I won't download that 19M movie. I have already exceeded my monthly limit07:19
kaffeendlol07:19
crimsunJosh43: sarge installs fine on those specs07:19
Darkheartnope ps port, I have a USB mouse and thought maybe that was the issue07:19
kaffeendI pity you people that have "limits"07:20
Josh43crimsun, but not ubuntu with xwindows07:20
intelikeyJosh43 if you booted blueflops you used loadlin.exe and didn't even know it.07:20
onkarshindekaffeend: that is the cheapest I can get.07:20
kaffeendah07:20
crimsunJosh43: you don't need to install ubuntu-desktop. You can cross-grade to ubuntu-base.07:20
kaffeendwell, there's always dialup too onkashinde ;)07:21
kaffeendhttp://savage2.s2games.com/downloads/ has a small trailer too07:21
onkarshindekaffeend: I was on dialup some months ago. Now on DSL. Still this self imposed restriction to save money07:21
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intelikeyJosh43 8m ram....  better go with something older.   slack 4 maybe.07:21
Josh43crimsun, would I be able to get running enough to get a system similar to a lean win98 install?07:21
kaffeendonkashinde - that's a good rule07:22
intelikeyub wont run on 8m07:22
crimsunJosh43: not easily. You'll have luck with directfb.07:22
onkarshindekaffeend: that link is forbidden07:22
Josh43intelikey, It's for someone else, so I'm actually trying to use linux to copy over the win98 install atm, but if I can get a decent alternative, it's tempting07:22
GatoradeOK this is redicuous I have done 3 live CD's ubuntu, SUSE and Knoppix and all of them will not work with my GE mouse isn't that proof that Microsoft is forcing people to use WIndows???07:22
kaffeendonkashinde: that's some awesome bump mapping... that's all I can say07:22
kaffeendhttp://savage2.s2games.com/media_vid.html try that07:23
Josh43brb07:23
Gatoradeand by the way I LOVE SUSE OS07:23
Gatoradevery pretty07:23
chapiumanyone here have trouble with openoffice crashing?07:23
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chapiumtry the letter wizard07:23
intelikeyJosh43 i'd also sujest w95  with browser pack.   it's lighter and will actually work on that box.07:23
DRAGON_Ultrasuse is good but ubuntu is better07:23
kaffeendGatorade - do you like suse, like I like suse?07:23
GatoradeOh yes yes I do oh yeah07:23
kaffeendlol07:24
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korptixhiii07:24
GatoradeSuse just rocks my muse07:24
korptixi have ubuntu on LIVECD07:24
korptixbut07:24
korptixit doesnt have gcc ?07:24
Gatoradebut I can't get my Mouse to run on any Linux os lol07:24
kaffeendkorptix is it pissing down there too?07:24
intelikeyJosh43 i don't think you can use sarge on 8m ram either.07:24
korptixwhere au ?07:24
korptixnah07:24
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korptixits hot as07:24
GatoradeI need to by a non GE mouse on monday07:24
intelikeyif so just barely.07:24
kaffeendin syd?07:24
korptixyeah07:25
korptixfkn aoth07:25
Gatoradechica chica chica chica chica chica!!!!07:25
chicapatraGator Gator Gator Gator Gator!07:25
kaffeendI'm in stormy/balmy brissie07:25
chapiumis it Suse like "Sue See" or Suse like "Snooze" ?07:25
korptixand its raining ?07:25
kaffeendand it's bloody HOT here!!!07:25
korptixoh07:25
korptixlol07:25
korptixvery hot07:25
chapiumor is it like dr. seuss07:25
GatoradeSuse is the most amazingly beautiful OS I've ever seen07:25
chapiumneat07:25
kaffeendgonna jump in the shower to dry off a bit soon ;)07:25
Gatoradeand Honestly I don't care much for ubuntu lol07:25
irvinGatorade: it's just eye candy07:26
korptixyeh make sure u use only cold water ;] 07:26
kaffeend!kick Gatorade07:26
ubotukaffeend: What?07:26
eobanbwhy is suse any better than any other gnome/kde desktop?07:26
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Gatoradewoah07:26
Gatoradeheh07:26
intelikeycandor is cool.07:26
GatoradeI'm not07:26
crimsunchapium: it's suezah07:26
onkarshindeGatorade: If you don't care then why are you here?07:26
korptixso.07:26
GatoradeI'm just being honest sorry07:26
korptixanyone can help me out ?07:26
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eobanbi still want to know the answer to my question07:26
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kaffeendsuse's for n00bs07:26
korptix..07:26
eobanbwhy is it any better than any other gnome/kde desktop?07:26
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kaffeendhi Grandma - playin with suse again I see?07:27
eobanbi mean gnome on suse and gnome on ubuntu is basically the same07:27
irvinGatorade: i'm really disappointed with suse specially on the amount of time for installation07:27
Darkheartso any ideas on why my keyboard doesn't work when trying to install ubuntu?07:27
korptixANYONE07:27
GatoradeI just like the style07:27
eobanb'the style'?07:27
korptix..07:27
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[danger] how can I determine the I/O ports my cr-rom drive is using?07:27
chapiumDarkheart, i missed the original question07:27
korptixANYONE07:27
onkarshindekorptix: if you will state your problem07:27
korptix..07:27
Gatoradelisten I can't run the damn thing until I get a mous anyway My mouse freezes up no matter what I run07:27
korptixi did07:27
kaffeendwho here has default gnome theme?07:27
korptix<korptix> i have ubuntu on LIVECD07:27
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korptixand07:27
korptixit doesnt have .07:27
korptixGCC07:28
chapiumDarkheart, is this an abnormal keyboard?07:28
intelikeykaffeend suze is linux just like ubuntu is linux or gentoo(distro) is linux    linux is for anyone that wants to use it.07:28
korptixto complie anything.07:28
GatoradeI have ubuntu on live cd and Suse and knoppix07:28
Darkheartnope standard ps keyboard07:28
irvinkorptix: it's on the cd. sudo apt-get install build-essential07:28
korptix..07:28
kaffeendintelikey why tell me?07:28
kaffeend:P07:28
eobanbkorptix, what are you trying to compile?07:28
onkarshindekorptix: then why don't install?07:28
korptixwell07:28
kaffeendand the debian kernel isn't in all distros ;)07:28
korptixits running off CD07:28
intelikey<kaffeend> suse's for n00bs07:28
[danger] I/O ports...  Could someone help me out?07:29
korptixhow is it gonna insatll on to a cd?07:29
eobanbkorptix, it doesnt, there's a ram disk07:29
kaffeendI'm just funnin' - I've never even used suse for more than a day :D07:29
irvinkorptix: ohhh i missed the LiveCD, just try if you could install it... sudo apt-get install build-essential07:29
intelikeyWELL GRIN WHEN YOU FUN !07:29
intelikey:)07:29
kaffeend:P07:30
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painkilerhey guys07:30
kaffeendlike that? :D07:30
korptixwell07:30
eobanbhi painkiler07:30
korptixim new to this shit07:30
intelikeyyep07:30
korptixand i no nuffin07:30
korptixi have dsl07:30
korptixmodem07:30
eobanbkorptix, what are you trying to compile?07:30
korptixand i cant set up network07:30
korptixa file07:30
eobanb'a file'?07:30
korptixblah.c07:30
painkilerneed a little help setting up my file sharing to a windows pc....07:30
kaffeendlol07:30
painkilerI have tryed a few ways07:30
chapiumDarkheart, have you tried a different keyboard?07:30
korptixlol @ painkiler07:31
korptixfrom austnet ?07:31
GatoradeMy mouse does the same thing with every linux OS I tryk it freezes and doesn't move and shuts down07:31
painkiler?07:31
painkileraustnet?07:31
korptixdw07:31
korptixmy vad07:31
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intelikey!samba07:31
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently07:31
painkileri know07:31
[danger] Hello.  Does anyone know a command that will tell me what the I/O port address is for my CD-ROM drive?07:31
intelikeypainkiler ^07:31
korptix*bad07:31
eobanb'I/O port address'? you mean the device node?07:31
painkilerbut i can never get it showing up on my pc....07:31
painkileris there a guide on the wiki?07:32
painkilerbcause i cant find it07:32
intelikeypainkiler ^07:32
korptixi also get this07:32
crimsun[danger] : you probably mean for your IDE controller07:32
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ubuntuok07:32
crimsun[danger] : in that case, it can be found via lspci07:32
ubuntuim here07:32
Lukohow different is linux programming compared with windows programming?07:32
ubuntu"korptix"07:33
painkileroh yeah, how do i get vnc server working on ubuntu?07:33
[danger] perhaps. I want to determine the hex numbers I can feed to the program Smart Boot Manager so it will boot off my CD drive.07:33
ubuntui get this error07:33
painkilerit never works07:33
ubuntuwait07:33
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painkileri try ip:007:33
ubuntustfu and listen07:33
GatoradeIs there anything I can besides buying a new mouse that will let me run these Linux OS'?07:33
[danger] I will try lspci.07:33
crimsunubuntu: don't be rude.07:33
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painkilerbut all it comes up with is just a screen with and x cursur07:33
ubuntuk07:33
ubuntugzip: stdin: not in gzip format07:33
ubuntutar: Child returned status 107:33
ubuntutar: Error exit delayed from previous errors07:33
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$ c07:33
painkilerand a lined background07:33
eobanbubuntu, what are you trying to do?07:33
GatoradeIs it a known fact that GE mouse's won't work with Non Windows OS'?07:34
ubuntuunrar it?07:34
ubuntu..07:34
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irvinubuntu: i was wondering how what command and arguments you used07:34
eobanbubuntu, you need to use an unrar tool...gzip is a program for gzip not rar07:34
gn0meAnyone know the package that adds "Open a Terminal" to your gnome right-click menu on desktop?07:34
crimsunubuntu: use unrar-nonfree if it's a rar file.07:35
crimsun!info unrar-nonfree07:35
intelikey[danger]  eee that's that map 0x80 to 0x81   crap....    not sure how to find it   how many drives do you have ?07:35
cantonacan I upgrade to drapper now?07:35
ubuntuso07:35
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB07:35
crimsuncantona: you may, but it's not recommended.07:35
ubuntuunrar e fuck.tar07:35
ubuntu?07:35
ubuntuits a tar file07:35
ubuntunot rar07:35
eobanbcantona, you can upgrade to dapper at any time, but i wouldnt recommend it for inexperienced users.07:35
crimsunubuntu: then just tar xf foo.tar07:35
ubuntuk07:35
cantonahow to define an experienced users?07:35
ubuntucheers07:35
ubuntunow that its running off CD07:36
[danger] I only have one CD-Drive.  I tried lspci, but the information it provided didn't seem to be what I needed.  Any other suggestions?07:36
centOGGdwink07:36
ubuntuand do i save my work ?07:36
ubuntu?07:36
eobanbcantona, how long have you used linux?07:36
cantonais there any broken dependance in dapper now?07:36
crimsuncantona: no offense, but this is how we generally recommend it: If you have to ask whether you can upgrade to the devel branch, that's a good indication that you shouldn't yet.07:36
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intelikeythe idots that are always here cantona ?07:36
cantonaeobanb: about 6 years07:36
irvinubuntu: you have any permanent storage you can mount? usb stick, floppy?07:36
ubuntu?07:36
eobanbcrimsun, my feeling exactly07:36
ubuntuwhat you mean07:36
ubuntuim running xp07:36
ubuntuand using vmware07:37
eobanb....07:37
intelikey[danger]  no, i mean all ide drives.    hda  hdb  hdd  ?07:37
eobanber07:37
eobanbokay07:37
centOGGso am i VMWARE ROCKS07:37
ubuntuk07:37
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ubuntu.07:37
eobanbubuntu, what are you asking?07:37
ubuntuim asking07:37
intelikeyand scsi if you have them.    cause the bios hex will count drives.07:37
ubuntuhow do i save my work07:37
irvinyou just lost me there ubuntu07:37
ubuntuk07:37
GatoradeWhy can't I get an answer for my question?07:37
ubuntulike07:37
ubuntulets say07:37
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[danger] let me take a look.07:38
crimsunGatorade: because many people haven't read it yet?07:38
cantonacrimsun: just want to know any broken dependancy only07:38
ubuntuim runnong ubuntu off vmware07:38
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ubuntuand.07:38
Gatoradek07:38
ubuntui downlaoded files07:38
crimsuncantona: there are tons of broken dependencies.07:38
ubuntuand i wanna save them07:38
eobanbubuntu i would think that's a vmware issue not an ubuntu issue, since all the drives ubuntu can see are probably virtual ones made by vmware07:38
ubuntubut it wont coz its off liveCD07:38
ubuntuehh07:38
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crimsuncantona: dapper is certainly usable, but you're generally on your own07:38
cantonacrimsun: i have 3 machines with debian sid, just wnat to compare with dapper, nothing special07:39
intelikey[danger]  also which device is the cdrom ?07:39
eobanbGatorade, what is your question07:39
centOGGload vmware tools and have another drink07:39
ubuntuwell07:39
cantonaanyway thanks07:39
ubuntuwtf do i do ?07:39
crimsuncantona: sid is far more conservative than dapper.07:39
GatoradeOk07:39
ubuntuwhat if i just ran it from boot07:39
eobanbubuntu, i suggest you read your vmware manual about how to save sessions, etc.07:39
irvincantona: you're always welcome to test dapper and report in bugs07:39
ubuntuyeh wait07:39
ubuntulike07:39
crimsuncantona: try a live cd07:39
ubuntuill start it from boot07:39
intelikey[danger]    sudo fdisk -l07:39
ubuntuuseing LIVECD07:40
GatoradeI tried 3 live CD's: ubuntu, Suse and Knoppix and on all of them My mouse froze and shut off07:40
ubuntuno vmware07:40
[danger] intellikey: Looking in my dev directory I have hda, hda1, hda2, hda3 and hdc.  Should I be counting other drives?  The cdrom is hdc.07:40
ubuntuyea.07:40
GatoradeI want to know why heh07:40
eobanbGatorade, that sounds like a hardware problem to me07:40
GatoradeYep07:40
ubuntuso07:40
GatoradeGe mouse07:40
ubuntuhow do i save my work ?07:40
crimsunGatorade: what type of mouse is it, ps/2? usb?07:40
[danger] intellikey: I will go try sudo fdisk -107:40
Gatoradeps/207:40
ubuntu..07:40
crimsunGatorade: got a ps/2 -> usb adapter?07:40
irvincrimsun: is there a dapper fligh 2 live cd?07:40
crimsunirvin: yes07:40
ubuntu..07:41
eobanbubuntu, if you are only saving data to ram and not not to a hard drive or other media, then the answer is you can't07:41
ubuntuman07:41
centOGGubuntu: are you on a network07:41
GatoradeGE = NBC = MSNBC = Microsoft, is that a coincedense?07:41
ubuntu:S07:41
intelikey[danger]  then i'd guess it to be 0x81  being only two ide disks  although it could be  0x82  because of being on the second cable [danger] 07:41
eobanbsorry, but what did you expect?07:41
ubuntuim on DSL07:41
GatoradeNo don't have an adapter07:41
ubuntuim running this os LIVECD07:41
centOGGbut on a single computer?07:41
ubuntuyes07:41
korptix;p07:41
centOGGoh well07:41
korptixim here again07:41
korptixwith XP07:41
ubuntuya07:42
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eobanbk0rptix, you could always save files to media such as a USB flash drive07:42
k0rptixwell07:42
k0rptixhow about i just install it07:42
eobanbif you find that inconvenient then you need to actually install ubuntu07:42
k0rptix?07:42
intelikey[danger]  try  0x81    that should be it.07:43
k0rptixdude07:43
k0rptixi dont understand anything u say07:43
k0rptixcoz i no nuffin about nic07:43
k0rptix*nix07:43
eobanbk0rptix, a USB flash drive is like a hard drive but it is very small and plugs into a USB port on your computer07:43
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eobanbwell...he was annoying...07:44
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korptixehh07:45
korptixd/c07:45
korptixwell07:45
korptixlike i said07:45
korptixi dont no anything about nix07:45
eobanbcan you not hit enter so much..07:45
korptixme ?07:45
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intelikey!enter07:45
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:45
timalothello?07:45
centOGGmery xmas07:45
eobanbhi timalot07:45
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timalothi, i've got breezy installed, and i want to install windows xp, is their anyway to stop windows killing my boot sector, which has grub?07:46
eobanbkorptix, this is a USB flash drive:07:46
eobanbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Flash_Drive07:46
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[danger] intellikey: Thanks for your help.  I think I just did something so I don't need those numbers anyway.  (I finally burned my CD correctly so it's booting off of it automatically.)07:47
centOGGtimalot: don't fight the power, let XP have the MBR07:47
intelikeylol  ok07:47
eobanbtimalot, unless you have two hard drives, i'm afraid all windows installations will overwrite the MBR....that doesnt mean you can't re-install grub later, though! just have an ubuntu CD on-hand.07:48
Josh43intelikey, Yeah, I was thinking win95 as well, but win98 with "98lite" runs about the same, but with more features07:48
timalotok i've only ever used lilo before is it easy to reinstall grub (and setup windows to start under it?)07:48
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eobanbtimalot, it is pretty straightforward.07:49
timalothave you done it using the install cd ?07:49
eobanbi dont use windows so i have never had to re-install grub myself, no.07:49
intelikey[danger]  fyi they start with 0x80 = first ide boot drive   and count up from there.  hense  /dev/hdb = 0x81 if exist   and so on.... scis starts where ide leaves off.  and i'm not sure about usb boot drives....07:49
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timalotyeah i *don't* either but, i need to play some games... ill read the man for grub, , thanks tho07:50
eobanbtimalot, grub-install /dev/hda1 (or whatever the hard drive is) should do the trick.07:50
timalotok thanks07:50
intelikeyJosh43 yes.   mmm but they will probably be 'more un-usable' features.07:50
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eobanbtimalot, once grub is re-installed, you can edit your menu.lst file to add an option to boot windows.07:51
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kestasguys where do I find the man page for ulimit?07:51
kestasit's not there for some reason07:51
kestasneither the C function nor the command07:52
intelikey[danger]  not that you care but let me add if a boxes bios is set to boot scsi first then ide they start the cound with /dev/sda = 0x8007:52
kestasthe command is there though07:52
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timalotok sounds good, i just hope windows doesn't kill my ext3 partition07:52
crimsunkestas: it's a bash built-in. man bash07:52
eobanbhere you go, kestas07:52
eobanbhttp://wwwcgi.rdg.ac.uk:8081/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/wsi14/poplog/man/2/ulimit07:52
centOGGtimalot: http://www.weblog.nohair.net/archives/000598.html07:52
cgeDoes anyone using dapper have a problem with dpkg segfaulting?07:52
kestaseobanb, thats section 2, I want the command07:52
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intelikeyor use help <bash_buildin>07:53
kestascrimsun, k thanks, but is there any way to set it automatically for all users? to protect against forkbombs?07:53
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Josh43intelikey; possibly, yes.. well, really; once I get a linux floppy to contact the network, I can go either way07:53
timalotcentOGG: thanks , wish me luck ill need it07:53
korptixsorry07:53
korptixback07:53
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korptixlike i wanna install ubuntu07:54
korptixso i can save my work07:54
korptixbut i only have one drive and i also want dual boot07:54
korptixany help 0n da?T07:54
intelikeytrue.  first crawl then walk then,,, hmmm on that box just walking will be about it.07:54
crimsunkestas: you probably want to use something shell-independent in that case. See the PAM documentation and /etc/security/limits.conf07:54
korptix???????????????????????????07:54
eobanbsure, korptix.  your safest option is to wipe the drive, partition it, and restore your data from a backup.07:54
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Josh43korptix: if you have enough free space, you can split your drive07:55
eobanbkorptix, a less-safe option would be to live-partition the drive with a tool like partitionmagic07:55
mcjerrykorptix, pm me07:55
eobanbi would not recommend doing this since it's possible to lose data.07:55
intelikey!grub07:55
ubotumethinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:55
intelikeykorptix ^07:55
mcjerrypartition magic blows07:55
Josh43eobanb, I've never lost data by doing it with the latest version of partition magic from within windows07:56
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eobanbJosh43, i'm not saying it cant be done, nor that it is usually quite safe, i'm just saying there is a possibility something will go wrong.  that's why i recommend backing up your data...07:56
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korptixOk07:57
mcjerryParagon Partition Manager is in my opinion more reliable than partition magic, but either case, create a recovery file07:57
kestascrimsun, thanks this looks like just the job, but do you know the difference between soft and hard values in the limits.conf?07:57
korptixblahh07:57
intelikeyburn cds then hose the drive   come on be a real geek07:57
eobanbkorptix, no matter what, you will need to partition your drive, unless you have another hard drive on hand.07:57
korptixikey> burn cds then hose the drive   come on be a real geek07:58
korptix<e07:58
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korptixsorry07:58
korptixeobanb07:58
korptixi will do that now but do i have to download it again ?07:58
Josh43eobanb, I agree :)07:58
korptixi have in on LIVECD07:58
eobanbkorptix, the ubuntu liveCD is not the same as the install CD.07:58
Josh43korptix, Oooooor, you could buy a usb keydrive07:58
eobanbJosh43, i already explained that to him07:59
korptixohh k07:59
mcjerrykorptix: can you pm?07:59
Josh43eobanb,07:59
korptixi did ?07:59
Josh43eobanb, sry; it's very late for me :)07:59
korptixdo i have to register my nick07:59
korptixto pm u ?07:59
eobanbkorptix, yes, you do.07:59
korptixok07:59
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crimsunkestas: hard is absolute08:00
k0rptixmcjerry08:01
intelikeybesides everyone knows that in the vernacular it is ' don't no nuffin '    you left the don't out      way up ^ there k0rptix08:01
k0rptixi pm'ed u08:01
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k0rptixsorry?08:01
crimsunkestas: in the context of resource limits (rlimits), you can raise the soft to the hard but not beyond08:01
intelikey:)08:01
k0rptixspeak english08:01
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Josh43why doth thou protest?08:02
wil_hi world08:02
eobanbhello, wil_08:02
mcjerryk0rptix, try pm now, i had to register as well.....08:02
k0rptixhaha08:02
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GlaiveLooxhi everyone! does ubuntu 5.10 support the intel 2915 wireless card?08:02
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wil_rythmbox will not play mp3s.  What plugin do I need?08:03
eobanbhi GlaiveLoox.  i believe it does.08:03
intelikey!wifi08:03
ubotusomebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:03
eobanb!RestrictedFormats08:03
ubotu[restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats08:03
eobanbwil_, see that --^08:03
kestascrimsun, k is there any way to load limits.conf without a reboot?08:03
wil_thanks08:04
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crimsunkestas: they take effect on next login08:04
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Wilfargh.08:05
Wilfno sound.08:05
Wilfany help?08:05
GlaiveLoox!wifi08:05
uboturumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:05
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GlaiveLooxwell? it seems it does. Thanks!08:05
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eobanbhi Wilf, try this08:05
eobanbhttp://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=9463908:05
Wilfalso, whenever i try to play a file, totum goes error: could not open the file for writing...08:06
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intelikeyWilf sudo alsamixer08:06
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Wilfseems to be detected....08:07
misfit_toykids get all the cool stuff these days!08:07
ardchoillelol08:07
intelikeyWilf use M to un mute08:07
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k0rptixcan08:08
k0rptixi have link for ubuntu install ?08:08
Wilfit is set up for 5.108:09
Wilfi have no 2.1 speakers...08:09
k0rptixalso does it come with gcc ?08:09
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HyperNewbieubuntu doesn't install gcc by default08:09
intelikey!breezy08:09
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:09
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niffe!fluxbox08:09
ubotuwell, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net08:09
intelikeythat's not it.08:09
k0rptix..08:09
k0rptixlink08:09
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HyperNewbiek0rptix, but its on the cd, so all you need to do is tick it and click install08:09
intelikeyyeah i thought it used to be on the breezy infonode08:10
k0rptix..08:10
eobanbk0rptix, here08:10
eobanbhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/08:10
k0rptixyeah dont i gotta download it frist08:10
k0rptixlol08:10
k0rptixty08:10
j-linuxAnyone else here who has heard of problems installing Ubuntu Breezy on a ThinkPad T43?  I got this computer 2 days ago but can't get Ubuntu to install.08:10
HyperNewbiek0rptix, get a shipit cd so you have that nice cover :)08:10
k0rptix shipit cd ?08:10
k0rptixdafak is dat08:10
intelikeywho removed the url to the iso's on the release infonodes  ?08:11
k0rptixalso08:11
k0rptixwhats kubuntu ?08:11
k0rptixor  edubuntu08:11
HyperNewbiekubuntu is ubuntu with a difference desktop08:11
eobanbHyperNewbie, shipit CDs are not for users capable of downloading and burning images themselves; shipit discs also take a long time to send to people (sometimes even months)08:11
misfit_toyj-linux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104238&highlight=ThinkPad+T4308:12
HyperNewbieeobanb, meh :)08:12
eobanbk0rptix, ubuntu uses a desktop environment called Gnome.  kubuntu uses an alternate environment called KDE.08:12
k0rptixso08:12
eobanbedubuntu is a version of ubuntu specialised for education.08:12
k0rptixwhats betetr08:12
k0rptix*better08:12
k0rptixi mean which is the best.08:12
eobanbk0rptix, that's for you to decide.  i personally prefer gnome08:12
mrkojej-linux,  try   http://www.thinkwiki.org08:12
HyperNewbieGNOME is slick and fast08:12
k0rptixfo sure08:12
HyperNewbieKDE is more chunky08:12
k0rptixand does it come with..08:12
k0rptixgcc ?08:12
j-linuxmisfit_toy: Thanks... that doesn't talk about problems with the laptop though...08:13
HyperNewbieyou can tick and install08:13
intelikey!start a desktop war08:13
ubotutwm is much better than gnome!08:13
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eobanbk0rptix, i would just go with ubuntu for now, and if you ever feel like trying kde, you can by easily installing the metapackage called 'kubuntu-desktop'08:13
misfit_toyk0rptix, if you want lots of crayola looking icons use KDE, if you want professional and fast use gnome08:13
j-linuxmrkoje: I've spent 2 days on that site... can't quite find out what is the matter with my laptop08:13
Josh43!start a desktop war08:13
can-o-wormswhat start up scripts should i add that "echo 1024 .." mplayer line to?08:13
misfit_toyj-linux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104238&highlight=ThinkPad+T4308:13
HyperNewbie!+foo08:13
ubotuHyperNewbie: Do they come in packets of five?08:13
mrkojehow far can you get with the installation?08:13
Josh43misfit_toy, lol; nownow, no wars08:13
j-linuxDoes anyone here have a ThinkPad?  If I delete the "restore recovery" partition with my 6 restore CDs recreate that partition later if I want to restore it?08:14
intelikeymisfit_toy i challeng the "gnome is faster than kde" implication.08:14
mrkoje!bot snack08:14
ubotu:)08:14
misfit_toyJosh43, no wars here, just opinions08:14
HyperNewbie!:)08:14
ubotuHyperNewbie: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:14
Josh43j-linux, No, I dont have, but yes; that's how it works.. to restore, you have to run the partition, not the cds; they recreate it08:14
k0rptixyeah08:14
k0rptixbut08:14
k0rptixdoes it have GCC ?08:14
misfit_toyintelikey, we like what we like! ;p08:15
ArsenalAre there any websites that explain installing ubuntu with the /home on a different hard drive?08:15
Josh43k0rptix, *buntu is debian, you can install gcc in about 2min08:15
eobanb!gcc08:15
ubotugcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.08:15
k0rptixok08:15
eobanber08:15
ardchoilleHappy Holidays everyone :)08:15
HyperNewbie!133708:15
ubotuNot a clue, HyperNewbie08:15
HyperNewbiesif08:15
misfit_toyardchoille, same to you and everyone08:15
intelikeynot a matter of like dislike tho you definately implied that gnome was faster than kde misfit_toy can you substantiate that or not ?08:16
eobanbubotu, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:16
ubotu...but gcc is already something else...08:16
eobanb!forget gcc08:16
ubotui forgot gcc, eobanb08:16
eobanbubotu, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:16
HyperNewbielol08:16
eobanbubotu, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:16
eobanb!gcc08:16
ubotuNot a clue, eobanb08:16
Josh43eobanb, much better08:16
misfit_toyintelikey, I have no reason so substantiate anything, it's christmas, give me a break.08:17
eobanbpiece of shit...08:17
HyperNewbiehahah08:17
HyperNewbie!+eobanb08:17
ubotuHyperNewbie: I haven't a clue08:17
HyperNewbie!+ubotu08:17
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.08:17
misfit_toy*to08:17
eobanbi need to wait a few minutes08:17
intelikeyok08:17
eobanbubotu, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:17
ubotueobanb: okay08:17
eobanbthere we go.08:17
eobanb!gcc08:17
ubotuwell, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:17
crimsunit's pretty difficult to quantify a perception of "faster"08:17
HyperNewbielol08:18
mrkojeeobanb,  you can just say  "ubotu, no ....."08:18
crimsunwith notifications, you can mask activity even when things like bootchart clearly demonstrate something is faster08:18
mrkojeeobanb,  I think08:18
eobanb!test08:18
ubotuPassed.08:18
intelikeygive everyone else a break next time and just say that you like gnome and don't tell them it's 'faster or better'  unless you can back it up please.08:18
eobanb!qwerty08:18
ubotueobanb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:18
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eobanbubotu, qwerty is blah08:18
ubotuokay, eobanb08:18
eobanb!qwerty08:18
jamesterhi!08:18
eobanb!qwerty08:19
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j-linuxJosh43:  I am thinking of deleting that "recovery and restore" partition, but I want to make sure I can get it back.  You are saying that the 6 recovery CDs that I created will restore that partition if I delete it?08:19
Josh43not only is it hard to substantiate which is "Faster", but throw in a couple different drivers, or even a composite manager, and the whole argument takes a left turn08:19
eobanb!qwerty08:19
crimsuneobanb: (it's probably less spammy to do that in priv with ubotu)08:19
ubotuwell, qwerty is blah08:19
eobanbubotu, no, qwerty is asdf08:19
ubotueobanb: okay08:19
intelikeycrimsun well put.08:19
eobanb!qwerty08:19
Josh43j-linux, Yes, exactly08:19
HyperNewbieubotu foo is a variable under which all variables should be named after08:19
ubotuokay, HyperNewbie08:19
eobanbmrkoje, yeah that seems to work08:20
Josh43!query08:20
ubotuJosh43: Wish i knew08:20
eobanb!qwerty08:20
ubotufrom memory, qwerty is asdf08:20
HyperNewbie!foo08:20
ubotufoo is probably a variable under which all variables should be named after08:20
HyperNewbiehaha08:20
Josh43nm, I'm going to stpo typing now08:20
eobanbubotu, no, foo is a variable under which all variables should be named08:20
ubotueobanb: okay08:20
eobanb^___^08:20
niffechecking for X... no08:21
niffeconfigure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.08:21
eobanbsaying 'under (blah blah blah) after' is redundant.08:21
mrkojeeobanb,  cool08:21
HyperNewbie!foo08:21
niffehmm?08:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, foo is a variable under which all variables should be named08:21
HyperNewbielol08:21
Josh43that doesn't come out the same meaning, tho08:21
eobanbJosh43, i'm not sure what you were going for in the first place.08:21
HyperNewbie!w00t08:22
ubotuHyperNewbie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:22
eobanbyou can't say 'preposition which statement preposition'08:22
Josh43 "foo is a variable that all variables should be named after"?08:22
kspathwow there is a fluxbox cult out there08:22
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j-linuxJosh43: thanks...08:22
eobanbcan't end the sentence that way08:22
HyperNewbieubotu w00t is simply the best variable name08:22
ubotuokay, HyperNewbie08:22
HyperNewbie!w00t08:22
ubotuI guess w00t is simply the best variable name08:22
HyperNewbiethere we go08:23
intelikeyin american english that works.08:23
kspathubotu openbox is simply the best window manager for me08:23
ubotuokay, kspath08:23
kspath!openbox08:23
ubotuopenbox is probably simply the best window manager for me08:23
HyperNewbie!openbox08:23
HyperNewbiehmm08:23
Josh43 "foo is a variable after which variables should be named."08:23
eobanbJosh43, yes, that would work.08:24
HyperNewbie!info synaptic08:24
ubotusynaptic: (Graphical package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.57.4ubuntu10 (breezy), Packaged size: 1036 kB, Installed size: 5128 kB08:24
intelikeyi liked the "foo is a variable that all variables should be named after"08:24
HyperNewbielol08:24
Josh43taking out the after, does definately change the connotation08:24
irvin!help08:25
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eobanbJosh43, not only can you not end the sentence with a preposition, you also can't have two prepositions associated with the same verb08:25
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intelikey!lart Josh4308:26
HyperNewbie!windows08:26
ubotuwindows is, like, totally, http://www.microsoft.com08:26
eobanbheh.08:26
intelikeylol08:26
HyperNewbie!dos08:26
ubotuHyperNewbie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:26
intelikeyyeah it is.08:26
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HyperNewbieubotu dos is better than ubuntu because it had qbasic08:27
ubotuokay, HyperNewbie08:27
HyperNewbie!dos08:27
ubotufrom memory, dos is better than ubuntu because it had qbasic08:27
Josh43eobanb, it's because I'm modifying an existing sentence.. all my english rules are instinct08:27
HyperNewbiebest bot ever!08:27
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eobanbubotu, DOS can be emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:27
ubotueobanb: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about08:27
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eobanbubotu, DOS is emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:28
ubotu...but dos is already something else...08:28
eobanbubotu, no, DOS is emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:28
ubotuokay, eobanb08:28
eobanb!dos08:28
ubotuI guess dos is emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:28
eobanbnow see, that's actually helpful :)08:28
Amarantheobanb: Please do that in a PM.08:29
intelikeycould be dosemu or bochs also08:29
Josh43or Q emu08:29
HyperNewbie!dos08:29
ubotusomebody said dos was M$-DOS operating system, or DoS denial of service ?08:29
HyperNewbieheh.08:29
eobanbHyperNewbie ...08:30
eobanbplease don't remove useful information from ubotu08:30
HyperNewbiewasnt me08:30
Josh43But, he's Hyper08:30
HyperNewbieubotu, no, DOS is emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:30
ubotuokay, HyperNewbie08:30
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HyperNewbie!dos08:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, dos is emulated on ubuntu with http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/08:30
GeckoOk, will you quit the spamming?08:31
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Hikaru79erratic, does anyone know if there's some third-party repo that has FreeRIDE packaged for Ubuntu/Debian?08:31
Hikaru79Oops08:31
Hikaru79That should say 'err' not 'erratic' ^ ^;; darn auto-completion08:31
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eobanbHikaru79, i cant find any debs08:32
eobanbbut this could be useful08:32
eobanbhttp://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/freeride-devel/2003-05/msg00001.html08:32
emachine_anyone know how to setup auto accept dcc in xchat>?08:33
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Hikaru79Thanks, eobanb :)08:34
eobanbHikaru79, might also try08:34
eobanbhttp://rubyforge.planetargon.com/freeride/08:34
eobanbyou probably want freeride-linux-installer-0.9.4.sh08:34
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intelikey!dos08:36
ubotudos is, like, which dos?  M$-DOS operating system, or DoS denial of service ?   for DOS = disk operating system it's emulated with dosbox or dosemu.  both readily installable via the package manager.08:36
eobanbthat works08:36
intelikeycould add a link for DoS  but it's kinda long now...08:37
eobanbtrivial info.08:37
intelikeyyep08:37
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Josh43or do !denial-of-service08:37
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mohdhi08:37
Josh43and !msdos08:37
eobanbhi mohd.08:37
mohdhi all08:37
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HyperNewbiehi08:38
HyperNewbie!foo08:38
ubotuwell, foo is a variable under which all variables should be named08:38
HyperNewbieyay08:38
HyperNewbieno noe changed it08:38
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GeckoWow, #ubuntu lost all of it's seriousness there...08:41
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byrammHas anybody else lost mono with the latest dapper?08:42
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intelikeypico still there ?08:42
intelikeynano is a symlink to pico     or is that backwards ?08:43
intelikeylike sh > bash08:43
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byrammno symlink here08:43
mcjerry GNU nano 1.3.9  still on dapper 2.6.15-9-386 here08:43
intelikeywhich is the link mcjerry ?08:44
Kamping_Kaiserpico08:44
Kamping_Kaisernano is there08:44
intelikeyok08:44
eobanbas far as i know, pico is non-free software.08:44
intelikeyi knew it was one or the other.08:44
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eobanbnano is the clone of.08:45
mcjerryintelikey, glad they knew, i just knew it worked....08:45
intelikeyeobanb pico is a link to nano on ub.08:45
eobanbintelikey, right.  i meant the real pico.08:45
intelikeyyes.08:45
eobanbpeople coming from say, solaris, are going to be used to using pico so ubuntu just links it to nano instead.08:45
eobanbwhich is better anyway :)08:46
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crimsunbyramm: it ftbfs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mono/1.1.12.1-0ubuntu1/08:46
Kindredif I copy files off a dvd why are they owned by root :|  I dunno, it kind of makes sense.  Also, I am copying across a couple of gb worth and it keeps stopping halfway through without throwing up an error or anything, I can't think of any reasonable explanations?08:46
intelikeybut how many linux systems have no vi* on them ?08:46
eobanbuhhhh none?08:46
intelikeywell not default installs anyway.08:47
eobanbKindred, is the DVD a video DVD? if so, it may be encrypted with CSS (content-scrambling system), for which you will need legally-questionable tools to extract the files.08:47
GeckoHope ubuntu doesn't make the same twist as gentoo did with nano. It was impossible to uninstall, whenever you unmerged it, it re-emerge'd itself...08:48
byrammthanks08:48
eobanbintelikey, every *nix system i have ever seen, ever, has had vi.08:48
eobanbor vim08:48
Kindredeobanb, nah it's just a data dvd I burned myself... odd.08:48
Kamping_Kaiservi tghe UNIX text editor08:48
intelikeyi have a box with mdk and no vi* but that is not a default install.... come to think of it, with nine installed *nixs not one is default.08:48
Kamping_Kaiseror version 6 of it ;)08:48
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eobanbintelikey, what operating systems?08:49
intelikeymdk9.0 that has no vi*  if that is your Q  ?08:50
Inf3ctedFxDoes anyone knows how to apply a patch on gnome??? I have some dificulties with some files...08:50
eobanbbut that is not an OS that's just a development kit08:50
intelikeybut it installed i just removed it.08:50
intelikeyno   mandrake linux is very much an os08:51
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eobanboh, *mandrake*08:51
eobanbby mdk i thought you meant gnu mdk08:51
bettspInf3ctedFx: It's non-trivial on Ubuntu, download the source code for the library you want to patch, use patch -p0, then recompile it08:51
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eobanbif you mean mandrake, say mandrake.08:51
intelikeylike gentoo  or distro gentoo   eeh08:52
Inf3ctedFxlet me show u the website.. where the patch is:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14508608:52
intelikeymdk is mandrake  gnu mdk is not.08:52
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eobanbintelikey, if it installed vi and you uninstalled it, that doesnt count..08:52
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GeckoWouldn't the correct abbrevation for mandrake be mdv now that it's called mandriva? :)08:53
intelikeyread the post.   i said it is not a default install08:53
eobanbwell why did you even bring it up then?08:53
intelikeygecko  only if deb is the proper abbrevation for ubuntu :)08:54
bettspInf3ctedFx: Ok, in this case you'd have to download the Nautilus code, patch it, and recompile. However, I'd wait until this makes its way to Ubuntu, because instead of having the regular Nautilus, you've got "random self-built" Nautilus, and apt-get will replace it at will08:54
intelikeyi asked if anyone knew of a default install that didn't have it.08:54
Geckointelikey, haha, point taken08:55
Inf3ctedFxyes bettsp  u r right08:55
mcjerrywindows08:55
mcjerrylol08:55
eobanbwindows is not *nix08:55
mcjerryi know, was just bein funny08:55
bettspMan, when did bugzilla.gnome.org get so fancy?08:55
pilgrimHi everyone. I just installed Ubunutu (fedora was my last install) a couple hours ago. I find it to be slow though for the simplest tasks. If I'm not wrong, a new install should be exceptionally fast. The only thing I can thing of is that maybe ubuntu is not utilizing my the symmetrical multiprocessing power (pentium 3.4 with HT). Can someone suggest anything?08:56
intelikeycgywin probably has vi   iirc it does.08:56
eobanbsure, pilgrim, you could apt-get an smp kernel.  apt-cache search or check packages.ubuntu.com for 'linux-image'08:57
bettsppilgrim: Network is down? I sincerely doubt it's because of HT08:57
eobanbpilgrim, also see if you are using your graphics card's acceleration.08:57
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pilgrimbettsp: not talking about internet speeds.08:57
bettspIf GNOME has to wait all the time for network requests that never come back (especially if /etc/hosts) is messed up, it appears to be really slow08:57
bettsp* move ) to after "up"08:58
pilgrimeobanb: that I know I'm not. I have an ATI Radeon 9700 (Mobile I think).08:58
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eobanbbettsp, well that is a good hypothetical point, i dont see how gnome would be making non-local requests often enough to cause a big slowdown08:58
pilgrimeobanb: where do i get started?08:58
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eobanbhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-hardware08:59
eobanbthere you go, pilgrim08:59
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bettsppilgrim: apt-get install htop, run it and see if one specific process is taking up 100% CPU time, you could also have some runaway process08:59
pilgrimeobanb: thanks, and if I was to do the "expert" ubuntu install will I be able to choose SMP kernel?09:00
eobanbpilgrim, uname -a and see if you have an smp kernel already.09:00
intelikeyeobanb it will slow gnome down noticably if the network is not what gnome thinks it should be.   i have seen that.09:00
pilgrimeobanb: I'm using 2.6.12-10-38609:01
pilgrimeobanb: so not SMP09:01
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pilgrimeobanb: fedora detected that and used smp automatically :(09:02
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irvinpilgrim: how many cd's was that?09:02
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pilgrimirvin: look I'm not trashing ubuntu or anything. To answer your question I download 3/4.09:03
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Toma-pilgrim: whats ya problem?09:04
cyphaseif my screen suddenly became half as bright as normal and began flickering noticeably, could that be a problem with X?09:04
irvinpilgrim: not a problem :D09:04
pilgrimToma-: ubuntu is slow (in comparison to fedora core 4). I think the reason is that ubuntu didn't install smp kernel.09:04
bettspThe fact is, HyperThreading might affect your performance ~15%, that's extremely unlikely that you could visually notice it09:05
intelikeyi may have to try on a hat with a small brim (fedora) some day.09:05
Toma-ahh i see09:05
PuptentacMahangu, you around?09:05
Toma-pilgrim: you in ubuntu now?09:05
pilgrimToma-: yeah.09:05
Toma-is it an amd or pentium09:05
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pilgrimpentium 4 (3.4 Ghz )09:06
bettsppilgrim: Also make sure DMA is turned on, to make sure it's on go to a terminal and type hdparm -d1u1c1m1609:06
eobanbpilgrim, i'm guessing the package you're looking for is linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp09:06
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Toma-pilgrim: "apt-get install linux-686-smp"09:06
bettspOops09:06
Toma-should have a pretty smp option at grub boot09:06
bettsphdparm /dev/hda -d1u1c1m1609:06
cyphaseIf my screen suddenly became half as bright as normal and began flickering noticeably, could that be a problem with X? Or is it definetly a problem with the monitor itself?09:06
bettsp(Replace /dev/hda with your hard drive)09:07
irvinyup, the iso ships only with the -386 kernel09:07
Toma-bettsp: you only need -d1 to turn dma on.09:07
bettspcyphase: Probably the monitor09:07
irvini had to apt-get -686 too09:07
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Toma-and k1 if you wanna save09:07
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cyphasedefinitely*09:07
bettspcyphase: Could be your video hardware I guess09:07
cyphasebettsp, it's a new card09:07
cyphaseand there was no reason for it to change..09:08
cyphasei'm reading a web page..09:08
cyphaseand bang09:08
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intelikeycyphase likely monitor but possably caused by X over driving it.  have you tweeked the refresh rates to highest possable ?09:08
rodhi09:08
Toma-lo rod09:08
eobanbcyphase, could be the display; it's also possible it's not getting enough power (did something else turn on then, like a space heater or dishwasher?)09:08
rodi have dapper and want tot unrar with unrar-nonfree ... How to get it, since multiverse doesnt seem to excist on dapper?09:09
pilgrimToma-: once smp kernel is downloaded, I need to change grub settings right?09:09
cyphaseeobanb, not that i know of09:09
cyphasebiggest thing it could be is a laptop09:09
Toma-pilgrim: it'll do it all for you09:09
eobanbintelikey, it seems like he would have noticed an overdrive problem as soon as x started09:09
Toma-pilgrim: the only thing you *may* have to change, is the default option, once you test to see if it boot and all is well09:09
Toma-pilgrim: but that incredibly easy09:09
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pilgrimToma-: cool.09:09
Toma-;)09:10
intelikeyeobanb no you can push the monitors limits for long enough to cause premature failure.09:10
rodnvm got it working now09:10
eobanbintelikey, eh maybe, seems like that would only happen with really old hardware though.09:10
intelikeyall hardware is used hardware after you power on.09:11
cyphasethe monitor i got used09:11
cyphaseso maybe..09:11
pilgrimToma-: one thing I don't like is garbage in my system. After my ubuntu install I upgraded my kernel (from the upgrade tool) and now I have to kernel I can choose from. How do I get rid of old one and free the HD space and just clean up?09:11
cyphaseit was a nice looking 19" for $50 :)09:11
Toma-pilgrim: you can remove it with synaptic. pretty easy to do09:12
intelikeyeither way the symptoms expressed (reguardless the cause) still point to the monitor cyphase09:12
pilgrimToma-: cool. I'll find out the details. thank.09:12
cyphaseah well09:12
pilgrimthanks*09:12
Toma-no probs!09:12
cyphasei was thinking of getting a new one anyway :D09:12
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cyphasenow i have a reason09:12
intelikeyyep09:12
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cyphaselol09:13
cyphaseanyway, thanx09:13
korptur welcome09:13
rodin what package sits gnome multimedia selector?09:13
intelikeyann knee tyme09:13
Toma-pilgrim: all the kernel inamges have an apt/deb name of "linux-*-blah" so you could search for "linux-" and youll get a list of all the kernel images and modules p[ackages installed09:13
niffehow can i add proqram in the fluxbox where i can see how much there is battery left on my laptop?09:14
intelikeybash script question.   if i want to mix up a set of veriables (randomize them)  what is the easy way ?09:14
pilgrimWhat's up with these ridicules services anyway? Why do I need klogd and sysklogd started?09:15
Toma-pilgrim: klogd logs your kernel, systemlogd logs your system09:16
Toma-they use bugger all resources so who cares?09:16
pilgrimToma-: hmm.. ok.09:16
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intelikeykernel log daemon   and  system log daemon  are to keep log files of errors and things that you might need to know pilgrim09:16
pilgrimintelikey: I know what log files are and stuff, just didn't know there were to daemons needed for that.09:17
Toma-ie, 1gb (1048576 kb) of ram, and the little log programs use about 5kb between them?09:17
Wilfwhen i choose the multimedia systems selector, when testing them, my speakers make a beeeeeeeeeeeep noise...this is good yeah?09:17
intelikeykernel level  and system level are not the same.09:17
pilgrimI installed smp kernel, now I'm rebooting. I'll be back. Thanks to all that helped (and those who will help ;)).09:18
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Toma-Wilf: well, i guess theyre working?09:19
Toma-Wilf: yes, beeeeeeeeep means good.09:19
Wilfhmmm. wierd.09:19
Wilfbecause they don't work with anything else!09:20
intelikeyWilf if you want to test a speeker you give it a sound to output,  and ub was not very colourfull but they gave it one.09:20
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intelikeydoes breezy mute everything like hoary did ?09:21
Toma-nope09:21
korptsex.09:21
intelikeythen that's not it.09:21
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thegladiatorare there any good resume writing softwares for ubuntu ?09:23
intelikeyxchat is still on version 2  wonder when 3 is comming out ?09:23
Toma-thegladiator: yeh, openoffice09:24
korptumm09:24
thegladiatordoes openoffice have any templates as such ?09:24
korptwhen ever they make it ;p09:24
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Toma-intelikey: no need?09:24
Toma-thegladiator: id say so09:24
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intelikeybash script question.   if i want to mix up a set of veriables (randomize them)  what is the easy way ?09:25
thegladiatorwhere exactly is the template ?09:25
Smile|   ? :)09:26
thegladiatori am looking for a proffesional resume writer and not to make a single resume09:26
Toma-ahh i see.09:26
Tobahttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32496509:27
Tobaanyone care to confirm this bug?09:27
Toma-well i couldnt find one. you can import templates tho09:27
intelikeylike i have  $A $b $C ....  and i want  for i in "$allvars" ;do this to i ;done    how can i shuffel them ?09:27
thegladiatorthnks09:27
thegladiatori was trying to open synaptic and i got this message09:27
thegladiatorcan nyone temme why ?09:27
intelikeyerr $i actually  ^09:27
thegladiator!past09:27
ubotuthegladiator: Syntax error in line 109:27
thegladiator!paste09:27
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text09:27
Toma-Toba: works fine here09:28
Tobaodd...09:28
Tobaso that bug is just me?09:28
Toma-try doing it with fresh ~ files09:28
thegladiatorhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/614009:28
Tobaare you absolutely sure you're looking at the window button in the window list in your taskbar not the window title on the window?09:28
Tobabecause that part works fine09:28
Tobascreenshot?09:28
thegladiatorcan someone tell me what is the wrong  ? is it a problem at my end ?09:29
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thegladiatorcan someone tell me why am i getting this error when  i open synaptic ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6140 ?09:31
korptumm09:31
korptare you gay or stright09:31
korpt?09:31
Amaranthkorpt: That is not an appropriate question.09:32
korptwell maybe thats why he getting that error mang!09:32
thegladiatorAmaranth, could you tell me why am i getting this error ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6140 , when i open synaptic package manager09:32
Amaranththegladiator: Can you open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update'?09:32
Amaranthkorpt: I don't think so.09:32
HeartBT!codecs09:32
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories09:32
korptk09:32
HeartBT!easysource09:32
ubotueasysource is, like, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:32
thegladiatorAmaranth, thanks . not it works . what was the cause ?09:34
thegladiatornow*09:34
korpti told you09:34
korptur gay09:34
Amaranththegladiator: You somehow deleted the package lists.09:34
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Amaranthkorpt: Last warning, please stop.09:35
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thegladiatori have been using open office some time now , but  it seems the font list is just incomplete . i cant see my usual windows fonts like garmond,Arial,times new roman .09:37
korptOk09:37
Amaranththegladiator: You have them installed?09:37
thegladiatori installed ubuntu09:37
AmaranthAh.09:37
AmaranthIt doesn't come with these fonts.09:38
thegladiatordid not specifically install fonts but09:38
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Amaranth!info msttcorefonts09:38
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ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB09:38
thegladiatorthank you09:38
Amaranththegladiator: Install that package.09:38
thegladiatoryes09:38
Amaranthit'll automatically download the fonts and install them09:38
thegladiatorok09:39
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buffonhelo09:44
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buffonhi09:44
defendguini just got a new mp3 player which uses a san disk for storeage and when i plug it in via usb it gives me this error09:45
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defendguinusb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 1009:45
defendguinusb 2-1: device not accepting address 10, error -7109:45
kaffeendcan somebody PLEASE tell me where to learn about installing themes? Is there an EASY way (dare I ask?) to install themes? Is there an accepted theme installation protocol?09:45
mihai___can someone teach me how to make a 2 disk vcd/svcd from a divx? maybe using avidemux or kino09:45
defendguinkaffeend, gnome themes?09:45
TobaToma-: FYI, I'm talking to the guys in ##gnome and we've pretty much figured out it is not me09:46
kaffeenddefendguin yep09:46
Tobaand what the problem is09:46
Amaranthkaffeend: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php09:46
defendguinkaffeend, look up gnome-art on gnomefiles.org09:46
kaffeendthankyou guys :D09:46
defendguinkaffeend, http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=88909:47
kaffeendthanks defendguin09:47
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buffonuhm09:49
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defendguinnow about my usb problem09:49
kaffeendalso - where is the theme dir at please?09:51
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llukaxhey does someone know how to make a hotplug module not load at bootup?09:53
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defendguinkaffeend, ~/.themes ~/.icons09:54
trevorvwhat command would i use to mount a usb mp3 player? its a mass storage device i think09:54
kaffeendum09:55
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leafwanyone using audacity? Where is a package for libmp3lame?09:55
kaffeendit's like trying to find someone's house by looking at a picture of their house - I need to know the route to their house, I'm afraid, defendguin09:56
kaffeend:D09:56
kaffeendI'm sorry, I just don't understand what ~/. means09:56
intelikey!restricted formats09:57
ubotumethinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'09:57
deFrysk /.blah means hidden dir blah09:57
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intelikeykaffeend   the tild is your  home dir   also $HOME09:58
kaffeendw00t - thanks intelikey ;)09:58
leafwnevermind, enabling the multiverse did it ! great!09:58
kaffeendhmmm... the only theme folder there is the one I created :s10:00
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deFryskkaffeend, did you sudo apt-get gnome-themes-extras ?10:01
deFryskto get some more themes ?10:01
kaffeendno10:01
deFrysktry that10:01
kaffeendwill do10:01
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deFryskgives you some more choice for now10:01
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kaffeendum.. E: Invalid operation gnome-themes-extras10:02
enhiehi10:02
deFryskkaffeend, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras10:02
kaffeendoops - missed the "install"10:02
kaffeendlol10:03
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deFryskkaffeend, also you kan drag and drop the downloaded themes in the system>preferences>theme dialog box10:04
kaffeendhope there's some polished metal in there :P10:04
kaffeendthanks for the tip deFrysk10:04
jbueleris there a place i can paste my debugger results.. so someone can help me out? i would appreciate it greatly10:04
deFryskkaffeend, just download and drag and drop10:04
deFryskkaffeend, same with icons10:05
_newbie_What is eth0?10:05
kaffeendyeah - glassy icons :D10:05
kaffeendis there a tool for making my own skins?10:06
fli7e_newbie_, eth0 = default network card10:06
fli7eor the first one installed/detected, in some cases10:07
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=== deFrysk uses Clearlooks2 from art.gome.org aswindow border , glossy P for controls and tango icon theme
fyrzenthere's a Clearlooks 2?10:07
_newbie_fli7e: thx10:07
fli7enp10:08
deFryskfyrzen, http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/119010:08
kaffeendwell, tbh, I don't really like any of the themes I've seen so far :/10:08
kaffeendsome are okay, but only ok10:09
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kaffeendI like shiny plastic and metal-look skins10:09
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fyrzenthx Frysk10:09
kaffeendnice and simple - not too much detail10:09
HeartBTkaffeend, what are you up to now?10:09
rodI'm not technical at all... BUT   I have 2 computers which are like 4 hours driving away. Now I'm at one computer with a huge file. I need to go to the other computer, which needs that huge file too. I want to copy it over via the internet. Howto do this in a simple way?10:09
kaffeendHeartBT being bored... why?10:10
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pananawhat is repository mean? universe? multiverse ?10:10
HeartBTkaffeend, you mentioned themes, that's kinda my project tonight.10:10
kaffeendHeartBT cool - mine too it seems10:10
kaffeend:D10:10
kaffeendI already have a most lovely wallpaper :)10:11
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deFryskkaffeend, http://art.gnome.org/themes/10:11
bluesnowhi10:12
HeartBTkaffeend, I cannot find mine!  tux, wearing shades, spiked hair(?)really black. If you see it send it on10:12
kaffeendwill do HeartBT10:12
pananawhere can i find some reference/documentary10:12
HeartBTpanana, for what?10:12
kaffeendhttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4388/1482/1600/kaffeend02.png is mine10:12
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deFrysklol10:13
kaffeendyou may not be able to view it tho :s10:13
deFryskhow modest ;p10:13
kaffeendThat's me - modest lol10:13
HeartBTkaffeend, got it.  In case you forget?10:13
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kaffeendyeah10:14
pananarepository mean? universe? multiverse ?10:14
kaffeendI'm quite forgetful ;)10:14
HeartBTpanana, universe, all the packages in the ubuntu universe.  multiverse all the packages in the debian verse and others.  kinda thing.10:14
deFryskpanana, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html10:14
kaffeendhehe... even got my uber l33t email there too... in case I forget :D10:14
os2macNollaig Sogail, Mele Kelikimaka!!!!!10:14
HeartBTbrb10:15
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pananatq friend :)10:15
HeartBTpanana, np10:16
HeartBTacutually, why they use the universe thing anyway?  must be a less ambiguous way?10:16
pananaim newbie programmer in linux so i choice ubuntu that ihear is really free10:16
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panananp?10:17
deFryskho problem10:17
deFryskpanana, spanish ?10:17
pananaindonesian - makassar(celebes)10:17
HeartBTSo, why is everyone on here on christmas day?10:17
deFryskah I see10:17
deFryskHeartBT, cos were all lonely geeks10:18
fyrzenlinux systems have all the best eyecandy to date. True or false?10:18
HeartBTtrue10:18
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deFrysktralse10:18
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HeartBTenlightened E17, awesome.10:18
pananalinux is the best !10:18
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muchmusicsee every post by poofyhair ever for commentary =010:19
Squee-Dalso because not everyones a christian?10:19
pananaand i love ubuntu on my first sight10:19
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HeartBTSquee-D, point.10:19
pananaim trying to get glade IDE, can java work with ?10:20
fyrzenubuntu would sound like the name of a humanitarian religion10:20
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panana"humanitarian religion" i love that10:20
pilgrimHi. I just installed ubuntu and find it to be slow. I thought it was because I wasn't using smp kernel. I apt-got the smp kernel (linux-image-686-smp) and then tried to boot with that kernel and to my surprise it took roughly 5+ mins to _boot_ (to get to GDM). Can someone suggest a solution?10:21
HeartBTwould someone explian to me the "penquin liberation front"?10:21
Squee-Dpilgrim any obvious errors in dmesg?10:21
pilgrimSquee-D: funny. didn't check that.10:21
jbueleri feel dumb for asking but how exactly does the pastebin work? ive posted something there.. is it similar to a forum, in which i wait for a response from someone?10:21
seb__pastbin simple10:22
HeartBTjbueler, no, it's so you can paste large texts without getting booted or disrupting a channel.10:22
seb__it just atribute u a http : adress10:22
intelikeyyou give the url to the people helping you and they view your paste10:22
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jbuelerright.. so, ive pasted there... now what10:22
seb__u just have to copy it on this chat10:23
Squee-Dtell us the link to your 'bin'10:23
jbuelergotcha10:23
Squee-Dor whomever10:23
jbuelerthanks10:23
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pananaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)10:23
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jbuelerokay so can anyone help me read through this? im lost.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/614110:24
Squee-Dmeans nothing to me. Is it a crash dump from an application?10:25
pilgrimSquee-D: nothing obvious in dmesg.10:25
jbueleryeah.. wasnt sure if it said something that i could do10:26
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Squee-Dpilgrim and your hard drives are running in DMA ?10:26
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pilgrimSquee-D: don't think so.10:26
brother_of_jaredGreets10:26
brother_of_jaredI need some suggestions...10:27
Squee-Djbueler no it provides some debug information, most usefull to the developers i imagine10:27
djdarkman_hy ,i start the bitchx irc client ,but i don`t see it anywhere ,and the syte monitor says that it`s running ,what should i do?10:27
brother_of_jaredI am new to Linux and Ubuntu....10:27
pilgrimbrother_of_jared: welcome :)10:27
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Squee-Dpilgrim: i dont remember the parameters but use 'hdparm' to ensure your drives use dma10:27
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Madeyeguys  after resizing windows C:\ I   got grub error 17, what should I do ? I tried grub-install /dev/sda with rescue mode and I got  'the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly'10:27
kpi need help10:27
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brother_of_jaredI want to use my Nikon CoolPix L1 and cannot find a program that will recognize the camera10:27
Arun333hi10:27
Squee-Dpilgrim: it could be a million things im sure, just trying to think of obvious ones10:27
kphi10:27
pilgrimSquee-D: would this help the booting time with smp kernel.10:28
ompaulHeartBT, http://plf.zarb.org/about.php10:28
Arun333how can i install .deb files10:28
brother_of_jaredPilgrim // Thank-you for the welcome10:28
Arun333im new to ubuntu10:28
brother_of_jaredNikon offers something for Winblows and Mac but that's it10:28
Squee-Dpilgrim well smp kernel shoulnt be any different as far as speed goes, but you complained of speed issues prior to the smp kernel yes?10:28
pilgrimbrother_of_jared: did you just try to plug it into the USB port10:28
Arun333kp:how can i install .deb files10:28
djdarkman_i start the bitchx irc client ,but i don`t see it anywhere ,and the syte monitor says that it`s running ,what should i do?10:28
Arun333pilgrim:how can i install .deb files10:28
ompaulHeartBT, more or less the same reason that ubuntu has restricted10:28
Squee-D(well smp should be faster :P)10:28
pilgrimSquee-D: yeah.10:28
ompaulHeartBT, more or less the same reason that ubuntu has restricted formats (oops)10:29
Arun333brother_of_jared:how can i install .deb files10:29
korptAlt + Tab10:29
HeartBTgot it.  brb10:29
brother_of_jaredMac version is compatible with Mac OS 10.1.5 or later10:29
pilgrimArun333: no idea.10:29
pananaigot following problems were found on my system10:29
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pananaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)10:29
djdarkman_i start the bitchx irc client ,but i don`t see it anywhere ,and the syte monitor says that it`s running ,what should i do?10:29
kpi'm new in this, i need an aplication to share files with another pc wich it's running under windows, they're conected by router10:29
Squee-DArun333 i bet you that its against the channel ettiquette guidelines to repeat a question to each active speaker10:29
Squee-DI sure find it rude :P10:30
brother_of_jaredI agree10:30
Arun333:)10:30
deFryskpanana, you have a double entry in your sources.list10:30
intelikeybrother_of_jared you could try   sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/camera/   <--- assuming you have a dir called camera else mount someplace else,  and then browse there.10:30
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pilgrimdjdarkman_: kill it.10:30
unimatrix9hi there10:30
djdarkman_pilgrim, but i want to use it10:30
unimatrix9whats the easy way to set up an wiki with ubuntu as server?10:30
kpcan somebody help me?10:31
intelikeybrother_of_jared that's just a sujestion, no guerntee it will work.10:31
kpi'm new in this, i need an aplication to share files with another pc wich it's running under windows, they're conected by router...10:31
Squee-Dunimatrix9 make sure php, mysql and apache are installed, and grab dokuwiki. very easy install on that10:31
brother_of_jaredintelikey // I did try gtkam but I don't think it recognizes the USB port.. all of the port choices were serial10:31
HeartBTompaul, sorry, emergency plunger delivery  :)10:31
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pilgrimkp, try and just go to "Places> Connect to Server" from top menu10:31
kpthank you10:31
pilgrimkp: hope that helps.10:32
djdarkman_pilgrim, how can i run bitchx?10:32
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panana/etc/apt/sources.list  ?10:32
intelikeylsmod | grep usb    brother_of_jared10:32
unimatrix9ok10:32
pilgrimdjdarkman_: first check if you have a rougue version running already10:32
pilgrimdjdarkman_: do this with "ps -ef"10:32
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pilgrimfrom terminal10:32
pilgrimdjdarkman_: whare are you using to IRC right now?10:33
brother_of_jaredintelikey // in terminal?10:33
intelikeyyes10:33
djdarkman_pilgrim, home10:33
djdarkman_i`m using xchat10:33
djdarkman_but i dont like it10:33
pilgrimok10:33
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djdarkman_i want to try others10:33
brother_of_jaredone moment10:33
pilgrimdjdarkman_: did you install bitchx?10:33
intelikeythe first command i gave was for a terminal also10:33
djdarkman_yes pilgrim10:33
HeartBTdjdarkman_, bitchx is kinda technical.10:34
djdarkman_1000     24740     1  9 11:18 ?        00:01:22 bitchx10:34
pananais glage free?10:34
pilgrimdjdarkman_: try from the command line "bitchx" or just "bit" <tab><tab>10:34
pananaglade10:34
brother_of_jaredintel // I got a list of things, but I don't understand it.10:34
ompauldjdarkman_, use consider irssi10:34
martiipanana: it is10:34
pilgrimompaul: you kidding?10:35
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intelikeythat's fine. just making sure that the system knew you had usb there.  now try the mount command.10:35
djdarkman_hmmm it looks like its running pilgrim10:35
intelikeybrother_of_jared ^10:35
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ompaulpilgrim, no10:35
brother_of_jaredintel // I have something called NIKON001.DSC  ??10:35
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djdarkman_it`s a textmode irc client?10:35
pilgrimdjdarkman_: now you can add a menu item to the gnome menu10:35
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pilgrimompaul: irssi is hard to use my firend.10:35
pilgrimdjdarkman_: irssi is text mode, eys10:36
pilgrimyes*10:36
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HeartBTmirc runs fine under wine10:36
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deFryskxchat runs fine without wine10:36
brother_of_jaredIntel // I also do not have a dir called camera10:36
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djdarkman_HeartBT, it`s just not the same...10:36
intelikeybrother_of_jared try sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/<something>      and see if the camera is there.10:36
Squee-Dhahaha10:36
brother_of_jaredone sec...10:37
HeartBTdjdarkman_, no, it isn't, but it is there!10:37
intelikeywhere <something> is a dir you do have brother_of_jared10:37
Squee-Dif you know Mirc, and it works well under wine, its not a bad idea.10:37
brother_of_jaredwhat's the command to see where I am? prnt  or something?10:37
Squee-Dmkdir /mnt/camera  first.10:37
djdarkman_i hate using windows programs under wine ,they just work sloppy ,it`s better to fint a linux alternative10:37
HeartBTI love mirc, I don't like wine.  I'm an angry drunk  :)10:37
Squee-Dbrother_of_jared pwd10:37
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brother_of_jaredthanks10:37
saik0Squee-D, You cant apply that philosophy to every peice of software you know, or he's be using WIndows10:37
HeartBTdjdarkman_, amen10:37
intelikeyecho $PWD10:38
Squee-Dsaik0 did i?10:38
saik0Squee-D, that was'nt an accusation10:38
djdarkman_so what irc client do you recommend for me ,i don`t like xchat and i like scripting10:38
intelikeybrother_of_jared don't mount on your home dir.  you can make a subdir and mount there but if you mount on $HOME you'll make gnome cry.10:38
pilgrimLOL10:39
vandenHi all. Brand new ubuntu user (first distro). I've been trying to find out how to change the date format, but 'date' is a bad term for google :-)  Can I have a pointer, please?10:39
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Kamping_Kaiservanden: date format for the clock in in the top right?10:40
pilgrimvanden: what do you mean format?   welcome BTW.10:40
HeartBTdjdarkman_, I cannot recomend one.  I use xchat, and bitchx.  Xchat is the primary, while bitchx runs in the background in my home channel.  If I was really picky, I would be running mirc under wine for it's scripting.10:40
vandenKamping_Kaiser: yes, and globally for all apps, too.10:40
intelikeysystem/admin/blah10:40
brother_of_jaredIntel //  mount: you must specify the filesystem type10:40
intelikeybrother_of_jared k it's not there then....10:41
vandenpilgrim: I mean I want YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YY10:41
brother_of_jaredwhat's not there?10:41
pilgrimvanden: at the top right of your screen?10:41
concept10vanden, right click on it for prefs10:41
intelikeyhehhe the camera.10:41
Kamping_Kaiservanden: i cant see any. only a toggle between 12hour/24hour10:41
brother_of_jaredintel // you can use 'jared' if you wish10:41
DjDarkmanso HeartBT that means you don`t know an alternative for mirc for it`s easy scripting?10:41
brother_of_jaredIntel // what is NIKON001.DSC10:41
vandenpilgrim: as Kamping_Kaiser says, right click is just 12/2410:42
intelikeywe went looking for it on sda but it's not there. brother_of_jared10:42
HeartBTDjDarkman, no, In linux world there is only the ones we've mentioned that I'm aware of.10:42
intelikeyprobably a driver for that camera brother_of_jared10:42
brother_of_jaredok, so what are my options then?10:42
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HeartBTbrother_of_jared, is there a setting in the camera to emulate usb drive?10:42
intelikeylook in /dev/usb/   maybe ?10:43
pilgrimvanden: no I was asking which date format changed. the you want the clock at the top right of your screen to show a different format clock right?10:43
vandenpilgrim: That, and I'd like apps which let me paste a date also paste as I'd like. On Windows, one could globally change the date format. I assume Gnome can too :-)10:44
brother_of_jaredforgive me I am new to terminal. How do I look into /dev/usb?10:44
vandenpilgrim: Not just past, but display in other apps, too. Thunderbird, for instance.10:44
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: cat /dev/usb or ls /dev/usb/10:44
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Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: ls is better10:44
pilgrimvanden: i see. i see. me thinking.10:45
vandenpilgrim: thanks. and for the welcome, too.10:45
brother_of_jaredls: /dev/usb/: No such file or directory10:45
brother_of_jaredThanks for the help by the way.10:45
intelikeybrother_of_jared HeartBT asked about a switch on the camera, and a very valed question it was.10:45
brother_of_jaredintel // looking into it.. there is no physical switch..10:46
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brother_of_jaredit simply plugs into a USB port.10:46
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, my sony and nikon both have a setting that allows it to emulate a usb drive, they have worked on every pc I've tried, even macs.  it would be a software setting.10:46
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carstenis bugzilla readonly now? I cannot login...10:46
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Kamping_Kaisercarsten: sure?10:47
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carstenmmh, changing browser worked...10:47
carstenVery strange...10:47
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: mine ask 'pc  or printer' when it's plugged into a pc, yours donsnt do anything like that?10:47
Kamping_Kaiserhm10:48
Wilfis there any way to remove the "storage" icon from my desktop without unmounting it?10:48
brother_of_jaredno it doesn't10:48
brother_of_jaredHeartBT // not certain what I am looking for10:48
Kamping_KaiserWilf: not sure10:48
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cregranyone able to help setup network to allow windows box on home network to see printer (etc) on Ubuntu box???10:49
g0thHi, I installed ubuntu on my brother's pc, he has a windows ntfs partition besides which gets mounted nicely, but: only root can read from it! How do I change that?10:49
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, Um, I cannot recall the menu item that it is under.  and I thought of bringing it in tonight.  what brand?10:49
g0thWhen I try to change the rights it always tells me sthg like: The fs is read only...10:49
g0thbut it is mounted rw10:49
ompaulcregr, have a look at these :  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:49
Kamping_Kaiserg0th: never try to write to ntfs10:50
cregrompaul; thanx10:50
brother_of_jaredNikon CoolPix L110:50
ompaulcregr, welcome10:50
g0thKamping_Kaiser: well I only want to read10:50
Kamping_Kaiserg0th: there is a setting you have to add to your fstab.10:50
brother_of_jaredI found something under USB10:50
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about ntfs10:50
ompaul!ntfs10:50
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:50
kaffeend!konfabulator10:50
ubotukaffeend: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:50
pilgrimvanden: try this message https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-October/msg02569.html10:50
g0thso I wanted to do chmod a+rx /media/hda510:50
brother_of_jaredI have a "Mass Storage" and a "PTP"10:50
kaffeend:(10:50
pilgrimvanden: or _read_ that message.10:50
g0thKamping_Kaiser: btw, why not? iirc ntfs write is quite stable already or not?10:50
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Kamping_Kaiserg0th: you cant chmod/chown ntfs. that counts as writing10:51
pananasudo apt-get update10:51
panana --> what's the function to ?10:51
Kamping_Kaiserg0th: ntfs 5.1 writing is not stable10:51
g0thKamping_Kaiser: so how can I mount it for users?10:51
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, use mass storage10:51
kaffeend!widgets10:51
ubotukaffeend: Do they come in packets of five?10:51
Kamping_Kaiserntfs 5 you can get away with10:51
vandenpilgrim: thanks, off to read! :-)10:51
eric_I had trouble going from win.xp to Ubuntu because of the ntfs file system10:51
kaffeendprobably10:51
brother_of_jaredHeart // that is how it is set10:51
Kamping_Kaiserg0th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions check this link10:51
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g0ththanks10:51
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, o....10:51
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, you have another pc there?10:51
pilgrimvanden: you're welcome.10:52
eric_Since I was sick of windows anyways I found it easier to use fdisk and do a clean install of Ubuntu10:52
HeartBTeric_, YOU GO MAN!10:52
brother_of_jaredI do and its a windows machine with the software that came with the camera.10:52
brother_of_jaredThe software is avail for the mac but not Linux10:52
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HeartBTbrother_of_jared, well that's not gonna work.  when yo u plug it in, it shows up as a camera or a drive?10:53
spatzHallo10:53
HeartBTbrother_of_jared,  on windows maching10:53
brother_of_jared"shows up" ?10:53
brother_of_jaredWhere should I check?10:53
Kamping_Kaiserare we sure it's usb, not firewire?10:53
spatzWo bin ich gelandet ???10:53
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, in my computer?10:53
brother_of_jaredsorry blind moment10:53
brother_of_jared:)10:53
HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, no.10:54
Kamping_Kaiserspatz: English here please10:54
Coldwinterwhats the command to change user permissions over a certain folder?10:54
Kamping_Kaiseror ubuntu-de10:54
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Madeyeguys  after resizing windows C:\ I   got grub error 17, what should I do ? I tried grub-install /dev/sda with rescue mode and I got  'the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly'10:54
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HeartBTbrother_of_jared, what shape is the computer end of that plug?10:55
Kamping_KaiserColdwinter: you mean who owns it, or who can write it?10:55
Coldwinteryah10:55
Coldwinterwrite in it10:55
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Kamping_Kaiserchown+chmod are the 2 commands10:55
Kamping_Kaiserchmod then10:55
Coldwinterok good thnx :)10:55
vandenpilgrim: darn. I'd tried language settings before, but the GUI only offers global changes to the locale. I want ISO dates, which, so far as I know, aren't in any language setting :-)  Do you know of a cmd line tool for changing locale settings?10:55
brother_of_jaredHeart // its thin rectangle10:55
Kamping_Kaiserchmod ??? /path/ :)10:55
HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, it's usb/10:55
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, did you try in windows pc?10:56
brother_of_jaredHeart // doing that now10:56
Kamping_Kaiserok. then your looking in the right place10:56
Amaranthvanden: If you knew what to change you could poke /etc/locales10:56
Kamping_Kaiservanden: localegen? (i think?)10:56
vandenAmaranth and Kamping_Kaiser: thanks. I'll go try.10:56
brother_of_jaredHeart // Shows up as a drive10:57
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brother_of_jaredHeart // comes up as removable drive F on that system10:57
Kamping_Kaisergl vanden10:58
vandenKamping_Kaiser: man locale-gen says "locale-gen  generates localisation files from templates" which, to this total linux noob, seems unlikely to be it.10:58
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, then it should darn well work under linux.10:58
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brother_of_jaredHeart // Question is how...10:58
pananawhere can i join a programming room?10:59
brother_of_jaredShould GIMP be able to see it?10:59
Kamping_Kaiservanden: try a search like `apropos date |grep format`10:59
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, now I'm stumped too.  I use usb everything and I've not had a problem with anything but printers.10:59
Arun333how long does it take for ubuntu cds to be shipped10:59
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, worth a shot.10:59
brother_of_jaredMy WACOM worked great10:59
Kamping_KaiserArun333: can be a few monhts for them to arive10:59
vandenKamping_Kaiser: you mean type that in bash?10:59
brother_of_jaredHeart // what's this mean:   usbcore               104316  6 usb_storage,usbnet,wacom,usbhid,uhci_hcd10:59
Kamping_Kaiservanden: yes11:00
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Kamping_Kaiserapropos searches man pages11:00
Arun333Kamping_Kaiser:im outside the us11:00
Kamping_Kaiserhave a bit of a play with it11:00
Kamping_KaiserArun333: so? so am i11:00
brother_of_jaredHeart // or this:   usb_storage            64704  011:00
vandenKamping_Kaiser: ah-ha! "Date::Format (3pm)   - Date formating subroutines" seems promissing!11:00
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, where did you get that?11:00
Amaranthbrother_of_jared: It's just showing you what modules that one depends on.11:00
brother_of_jaredFirst number being "grep" second being "usb"11:00
Arun333Kamping_Kaiser: will it arrive before the next release11:00
vandenKamping_Kaiser: off to see what I can find11:01
Kamping_KaiserArun333: should do11:01
Kamping_Kaisergl vanden11:01
brother_of_jaredHeart // lsmod | grep usb11:01
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, ah.11:01
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Arun333Kamping_Kaiser: should i use dpkg to install .deb files11:01
brother_of_jaredOh look Arun is back...11:02
Kamping_KaiserArun333: ones you download use dpkg. use apt- for stuff11:02
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, you dont have a usb drive or anything else liek that around do you?11:02
MitjaIs there a way to post images like posting code with cat | .pastebin?11:02
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brother_of_jaredHeart // no sorry11:02
win[X] amphow to tuning ubuntu more faster?11:02
briarubotu tell briar about KDE11:02
Arun333Kamping_Kaiser: can i use the debian user mannual for ubuntu11:02
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, that would eliminate either sw or hardware.11:03
Kamping_KaiserArun333: more or less11:03
knossoshi there ! I'm currently debian user and want to test out ubuntu. is there a ubuntu-netinstall iso ? I would need a minimal (<300MB) ubuntu base install11:03
niffethere is ubuntu live cd11:03
Arun333Kamping_Kaiser: bye thanx11:03
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knossosniffe, can this live cd be user for a minimal install ?11:03
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brother_of_jaredHeart // the only other usb thing I own is the WACOM Tablet11:03
Kamping_Kaiserknossos: i think so, but i havet used it11:03
knossosniffe s/user/used11:03
Kamping_Kaiseryes11:03
niffeknossos: hmm, imo yes11:03
knossosok, thx, I'm trying it out11:04
niffedont know for a fact trought :)11:04
Kamping_Kaiserknossos: you wont see lots of ubuntu using the min install ;)11:04
Kamping_Kaiserknossos: the install cd can do minimal11:04
Kamping_Kaiserthe live cd is a live cd11:04
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, I don't think that will tell us much, it would show that the physical socket works.11:04
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knossosKamping_Kaiser, i need a minimal install since I want to install it on a dm-crypted harddisk. Thus I need a minimal install, create the crypto disk and then install everything else onto the crypto disk11:05
knossosKamping_Kaiser, ok, then I'm downloading the install cd ;)11:05
brother_of_jaredHeart // that much is confirmed11:05
Kamping_Kaiserknossos: grab the install cd,( the standard one) then type 'server' on the prompt :)11:05
knossosKamping_Kaiser, thank you.11:06
Kamping_Kaisernp mate11:06
omac The japanese keyboard using just uim/anthy/canna works like a charm with ubuntu breezy :)11:06
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neesters...11:06
Kamping_Kaiser:)11:07
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pananaanyone here from 202. . . ?11:07
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, well, what I would do in your situation is pop in my slax cd and see if it sees it.  if it don't then it's definetly something in ubuntu, and I'm no gnome geek, so I can't help beyond that.11:07
neestershell yeah11:07
brother_of_jaredHeart // slax ?11:07
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, out of curiousity, does the tablet work here?11:07
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Kamping_KaiserHeartBT: what did you find? i lost track11:07
brother_of_jaredHeart // if you mean here as in Ubuntu... yes11:08
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vandenAmaranth: the suggestions Kamping_Kaiser gave me will show me how to write my datestring format. But /etc/locales does not exist. I'm not familiar with the various directories yet. Could this be the right one: /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.list11:08
HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, notta.  usb, works in windows, not hardware, port is good.11:08
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HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, is set to mass storage device.11:08
Amaranthvanden: oh, maybe it was /etc/environment11:08
MitjaIs there a way to post images like posting code with cat | .pastebin?11:08
Kamping_KaiserHeartBT: oh, bugger. not much to go with11:08
Kamping_Kaiservanden: no, all config stuff is in /etc/ in ubuntu11:09
HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, no other mass storage drive at hand either.11:09
brother_of_jaredKamping // my choices are Mass Storage or PTP11:09
vandenAmaranth: no such dir, either11:09
Amaranthvanden: err, no way11:09
vandenKamping_Kaiser: thanks, good to know11:09
Kamping_Kaiserwell mass storage it is. ok11:09
Kamping_Kaiservanden:  just a tic11:09
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, slax.linux-live.org  IMO the best live cd made.11:09
Amaranthoh well, shows what i get for being on OS X :P11:09
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vandenAmaranth: my bad, I thought you meant a dir. there is a file :-[11:10
Kamping_Kaiserlol11:10
brother_of_jaredHeart // all I have for linux is an old Mandrake set and Ubuntu burned from online11:10
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, I was just saying what Iwould do.  your ubuntu the live or install?11:10
brother_of_jaredFull install11:11
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vandenAmaranth: argh. just 2 lines: LANGUAGE="en_CA:en"    and     LANG=en_CA.UTF-8    So, little hope of tweaking aspects of local that way, at least not without more research than 4am allows :-) Thanks for your help, I know where to start when more awake.11:11
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vandenKamping_Kaiser: thanks to you, too :-)11:12
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Kamping_Kaiser:)11:12
brother_of_jaredThis snag isn't winning brownie points with the wife... I was hoping to get her to switch from windows11:12
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: trying to change them is dangerous ;)11:12
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, I'm at a loss.  should be mounted either /media/sda?11:13
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brother_of_jaredHeart // forgive my newbieness11:13
brother_of_jaredmounted?11:13
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: does `mount |grep media` give anything likely?11:13
brother_of_jaredchecking11:14
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, in linux to be accessed, media must be mounted.11:14
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gn0meDoes anyone know how to re-add "Open a Terminal" to the right-click menu on your desktop.. I could have sworn there was a package that did it.. or something quick11:14
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HeartBTKamping_Kaiser, does that show sda?11:15
Amaranth!info nautilus-open-terminal11:15
ubotunautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB11:15
HeartBTgn0me, yeah, kde11:15
HeartBTgn0me, :)11:15
brother_of_jaredWooT11:15
gn0meMaybe that was it.11:15
brother_of_jaredIT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!11:15
brother_of_jaredok,11:15
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gn0meAmaranth: Thank you, sir. :D11:15
HeartBTbrother_of_jared,  no way.11:15
AmaranthHeartBT: If you want to preach KDE please do it in #kubuntu.11:16
brother_of_jaredso I plugged it in, and a prompt came up... "import photos from device"11:16
brother_of_jaredand tada!11:16
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Kamping_Kaiserlol11:16
HeartBTAmaranth, was that preaching?11:16
Amaranthbrother_of_jared: Yeah, gnome-volume-manager automounts usb mass storage devices11:16
Kamping_Kaiserthat's what should happen11:16
brother_of_jared*does the happy happy joy joy dance*11:16
pilgrimbrother_of_jared: tell me, what fixed it?11:16
AmaranthHeartBT: Telling someone to use KDE, yeah.11:16
gn0meAmaranth: Actually, additionally to what you just said.. shouldn't it automount cdroms too?11:16
puptentHi all. Day one with Ubuntu completed. LOVE IT! But I do have a question...11:16
brother_of_jaredThanks for the help... you guys are so patient11:16
Amaranthgn0me: It does, here.11:17
gn0meAmaranth: Because I have noticed that mine hasn't lately.11:17
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: we don't have anything better to do ;)11:17
HeartBTAmaranth, telling him?  That was a playful poke, that was'nt even so much as advice.11:17
brother_of_jaredpilgrim // it probably came up the first time and I closed it by accident.  *hangs head in shame*11:17
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Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: well try it again11:18
Kamping_Kaiserumount it and put it in again11:18
brother_of_jaredhmm?11:18
Kamping_Kaiseryou want it to be repeatable when the boss asks ;)11:18
pilgrimbrother_of_jared: cool. cool. enjoy the linux exprerience11:18
brother_of_jaredYou want me to kill it to see if it comes back three days later?11:18
brother_of_jaredPilgrim // I've been VERY impressed with it and plan to convert the entire winblows world11:19
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: un mount it and unplug it (in that order), then plug it in and make sure it mounts again11:19
brother_of_jaredok11:19
puptentCan I borrow someone's brain for a few minutes?11:20
brother_of_jaredlet's do it.11:20
omacany skype users out there in ubuntu breezy land?  I noticed through this process how wonderous the "Sound Blaster 5.0 Live" Sound card settings with the alsa mixer were.11:20
brother_of_jaredhow do I un mount?11:20
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: it should have a thing on the desktop you can right click -> unmount11:20
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HeartBTpuptent, just ask, throw it out and see who has an answer11:20
gn0meIs there a way to specify which workspace a startup program can be launched on?11:20
brother_of_jaredok did that..11:21
Kamping_Kaisergn0me: don't think so. (but I'm not sure)11:21
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: did it work again?11:21
gn0meKamping_Kaiser: Yeah, I didn't figure there is.. but it would be nice. :D11:21
puptentOK...Ubuntu is on one drive, XPee is on the other. XP is on it's own partition, I'm trying to access the second partition on that drive with media files. How do I do that?11:21
vandenKamping_Kaiser and Amaranth: I couldn't leave it. Some progress. Following /etc/environment 's reference to "en_CA" I found /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_CA where the formats are all defined.11:21
brother_of_jaredITS ALIVE (again)!!!!!!!!!!!11:22
vandenUnfortunately, as the defs are all like: d_fmt       "<U0025><U0064><U002F><U0025><U006D><U002F><U0025><U0079>"  this *is* going to take some actual research. Thought you guys might like to know. Thanks again. Night11:22
omacI've got it working....it helped to have a test user called "echo123" out there which actually echoes everything you say in your mic and whatever else you capture for example a www.starbase479.com stream broadcasting a audiobook of HitchHiker's guide to the galaxy.11:22
Kamping_Kaisergn0me: you may want to look around, but i don't know of a way11:22
brother_of_jaredmwah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaaaa *cough*11:22
Amaranthvanden: That's unicode. :)11:22
Kamping_Kaiserbrother_of_jared: woot11:22
Kamping_Kaiserwb Hobbsee11:22
HeartBTgn0me, I was unable to get metracity to do that.  but there are some scripts at gnome hacks.11:22
Hobbseety Kamping_Kaiser11:22
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HeartBTgn0me, they may have one.11:22
omacThe <U00... stuff you see is Wide Character Unicode.11:22
vandenAmaranth: this I knew. what exactly I'm to do with it, on the other hand . . . .11:22
Kamping_Kaisernp Hobbsee11:23
nmsa'morning11:23
brother_of_jaredI just asked my Wife "Would you consider switching to this Ubuntu?"11:24
mrkojebrother_of_jared,  what did she say?11:24
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, and how did that go?11:24
brother_of_jaredAnswer: "We borrowed the computer so I can't its not ours."11:24
brother_of_jared"What if we got permission?"11:24
puptentbrother_of_jarad: in under 24hrs I've got my girlfriend ready to convert!11:24
brother_of_jared"I dunno maybe"11:24
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, well, that's not a no!11:25
brother_of_jaredWhich is a YES11:25
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niffestill, you gotta have permission :)11:25
vandenomac: thanks. 'Unicode' is a word that makes me think its time for bed :-)  (Linux noob)11:25
omacmy bet is if you just open that text file in mozilla as an html file and view->encoding...try utf-8...I think you will see the contents more clearly.11:25
puptentIt's always better to ask forgiveness than permission!11:25
brother_of_jaredFalls in the same category of "So you want to go out?" "I dunno maybe" "Where to sweety"11:25
HeartBTniffe, really?  (perhaps that's why my wife left?)11:25
brother_of_jaredUs men folk need to really understand two things.11:26
niffeHeartBT: go and talk to her, im not ur wife :)11:26
niffeor maybe i am..11:26
brother_of_jaredFirst. Women are ALWAYS right.11:26
HeartBTniffe, uh, ..11:26
niffeyeah, but you can sensitively guide them11:26
brother_of_jaredSecond. Women have the last word in every argument, the very next thing we say.. is the start of the next argument.11:27
HeartBTbrother_of_jared, YES THEY ARE!11:27
HeartBTok she's gone.11:27
puptentPreach on, brother!11:27
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irvinbrother_of_jared: speaking from experience? :D11:27
brother_of_jaredOnce we grasp that.. we can safely hold our remotes in pride and govern the world in peace.11:27
brother_of_jaredIrvin // yep11:27
gn0meman woman11:27
gn0meNo manual entry for woman11:28
Kamping_Kaiserum blokes11:28
Kamping_Kaisermove to offtopic please11:28
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puptentAnyone have an answer for me on hard drive recognition? Any ideas?11:29
Hobbseebrother_of_jared and HeartBT: you're aware that there are a fair few women in this room?11:29
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brother_of_jaredHobbsee // I wasn't aware.11:29
Kamping_Kaiserpuptent: can you repeat it, it got lost in the off topic conversation ;)11:30
puptentSure11:30
puptentOK...Ubuntu is on one drive, XPee is on the other. XP is on it's own partition, I'm trying to access the second partition on that drive with media files. How do I do that?11:30
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HeartBTHobbsee, yes, I'm fairly certain that there must be.  there's too much gathered knowledge to not have a fair share of them.  all in jest.11:30
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Hobbseebrother_of_jared and HeartBT: good11:30
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bjvi would like to convert an avi into a mpeg2 video, so i installed gtranscode11:30
puptentbtw...I'm a noooob.11:30
Kamping_Kaiserpuptent: is it an ntfs partition? I'm not entirely sure of you layout11:31
vandenomac: Thanks for the suggestion; no joy. I'll have a poke at it with Python's unicode support and see what I can grok. Tomorrow :-) Thanks again.11:31
bjvbut when i select an output codec i get an error about the plug ins not being configured?11:31
bjvapt-cache search transcode plug doesnt return them11:31
puptentYes, the second partition on hda1 is ntfs. I know it will be read only.11:31
Kamping_Kaiserubotu: tell puptent about ntfs11:32
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Madeyeguys  after resizing windows C:\ I   got grub error 17, what should I do ? I tried grub-install /dev/sda with rescue mode and I got  'the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly'11:32
Kamping_Kaiserk11:32
Drgbhi everyone, i have an iPod connected to my pc via usb. I'm using GNUpod to manage files on it, but every time i try to move, rename, add or delete a file on the ipod it says "iPod is a read-only device"11:32
puptentkamping...thank you!11:32
Kamping_Kaiserpuptent: feel free to ask if you have more issues11:33
brother_of_jaredI gotta run floks..11:33
brother_of_jaredfolks even11:33
brother_of_jaredThanks again!!!!!11:33
Drgbi need to set my ipod read-write, but mount doesn't do it, i've tried lots of times11:33
Kamping_Kaiserlater brother_of_jared :)11:33
Drgbcan you help me?11:33
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korptyeah11:33
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: I'm having a look for what error 17 is11:34
korptDrgb try /q ipod chmod11:34
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korpteven in mirc.11:34
Drgberm, it's on another machine11:34
korptohh k11:34
korptsorry11:34
Drgbwhat should I do?11:34
korpthang yourself :O11:35
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html11:35
Drgbkorpt, what?11:35
korptlol nuffin.11:35
bjv[transcode]  warning : /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init11:35
bjvLoading video import module failed11:35
bjvDid you enable this module when you ran configure?11:35
bjv[transcode]  failed to init import modules11:35
bjv[transcode]  critical: plug-in initialization failed11:35
Kamping_Kaisergrub doesnt recognise the filesystem11:35
korptwell11:35
Kamping_Kaisernto sure if that means your ntfs or ubuntu partition though11:35
korptsomeone help Drgb11:35
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MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, hmm and How to fix that ?11:35
bjvtranscode was configured before it was compiled for the package11:36
bjvhow on earth am i supposed to know what modules were enabled?11:36
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you make files using nautilus/terminal?11:36
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shad0w1eanyone here familiar with shoutcast server?11:36
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DrgbKamping_Kaiser, no11:36
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: check your file systems are ok (live cd would be good)11:36
Drgbi can't11:36
sexcopter8000mhello and merry christmas all! I'm trying to connect my laptop (running breezy) to the net via my parents' pc (running xp). How should I set up the NICs (what ip, gateway ip etc)?11:37
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  the point is i don't know how to check, and what to check, I have already booted using liveCD now11:37
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you run `mount |grep sd` and pastebin it/pm it to me11:37
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, sure11:37
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: try and mount the filesystem on the live cd (hoary live or Breezy btw?)11:37
sexcopter8000mis the gateway ip the ip of the NIC that the laptop is connected to, or the NIC from the xp box to the modem?11:37
Kamping_Kaisersexcopter8000m: set the xp box to be the gateway11:38
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  breezy11:38
sexcopter8000mKamping_Kaiser, but there are two NICs in the xp box, which one?11:38
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  mounted to /mnt/ubuntu11:38
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: oh, ok. IIRC there was issues with breezylive, but ok11:38
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: and it's readable?11:38
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  yes readable11:38
Kamping_Kaisersexcopter8000m: i cant help with xp problems11:38
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Kamping_KaiserMadeye: what about your xp partition?11:39
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  do you want me to mount it ?11:39
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: try yes, i suspect your ntfs partition is dammaged11:39
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  I don't care about if XP is damaged or not, I want to get into ubuntu11:40
bjv[transcode]  warning : /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init11:40
bjvim going to:  sudo apt-get install libdts-dev11:40
bjvjust a guess.. am i on the right track?11:40
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: in that case your quickest path may be to format your xp partition again (reinstall it?) and then rescue grub11:40
Drgb/dev/sda2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)11:40
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Drgbops, sorry, it noticed just the 1st part11:41
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Kamping_Kaisernp11:41
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  ok How to rescue grub?11:41
Drgbhowever, as you can see it looks mounted read-write11:41
Kamping_Kaiser!tell Madeye about grub11:41
Hobbsee!tell Madeye about restoregrub11:42
Kamping_Kaiserlook at the second link Madeye11:42
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: so i see11:42
Hobbseeah ok, it's changed...11:42
mrkojeanyone know of some reasonably priced gigabit ethernet switches?11:42
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  thanks :-)11:42
Madeyei'll check now Kamping_Kaiser :-)11:42
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: I'm not sure all those switches need to be there, but i cant be sure11:42
Kamping_Kaisernp Madeye. gl11:42
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, what do you think i should try?11:43
puptentKamping_Kaiser, that is exactly what I needed. Thanks a million!11:43
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: just a mo11:43
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Kamping_Kaiserpuptent: no worries11:44
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: run `umount /dev/sda2` for a start (may need to sudo11:44
puptentEveryone here is so helpful! I'm off to play with some new toys. Thanks again11:44
ompaulDrgb, that will need >>sudo umount /dev/sda2<<11:44
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Kamping_Kaiserhang on. cant Dr just add 'user' to that line?11:45
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DrgbKamping_Kaiser, ok, i did it..11:46
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Kamping_Kaiseruid=1000,gid=1000 drop that and add `user`?11:46
bjvanyone here able to do it?11:46
ompaulKamping_Kaiser,  yeap11:46
Kamping_Kaiserbjv: looked in apt?11:46
bjvi just need any method that can be gotten to work from apt-11:46
bjvyeah, ive tried transcode and ffmpeg11:46
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ElllisDI read somewhere that if i did a dist-upgrade from 5.04 to whatever's current then i had to change something first. Now i cant find where it said that.. anyone know what i have to do?11:46
Kamping_Kaiserompaul: i just realised when we said 'sudo to unmount your ipod' and i went wtf?11:46
bjvtranscode almost worked, but failed with /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init11:47
bjv:\11:47
ompaulKamping_Kaiser, the expression "there is that" comes to me11:47
bjvundefined symbol doesnt really sound like my fault, if it came from apt11:47
Kamping_Kaiserlol11:47
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: just a mo11:47
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Kamping_KaiserDrgb: try this `/dev/sda2 on /media/ipod type vfat(nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,user)`11:48
Drgbok11:48
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mrkojeWow I just found a gigabit ethernet switch (unmanaged) for $29.00 . That seams like a deal to me11:50
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Kamping_Kaiserwow11:50
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, wow, it worked11:50
Drgbi don't understand, what was the wrong flag?11:51
Kamping_Kaisercool11:51
Kamping_Kaiserjust a tick I'll explain11:51
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: what had been setup was that your user could view anything, but not write11:52
Kamping_Kaiseras root was mounting it11:52
Kamping_Kaiserwe changed that so your user could r/w, and your good to go11:52
SirKillalot2I need more apps11:52
Drgbok, thanks very much, but....it's not over yet, just a second :D11:52
SirKillalot2I want to test some new apps, help to quentch my thurst!11:52
Kamping_Kaiserbugger eh SirKillalot211:52
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: np11:52
Kamping_Kaiserkeep them coming ;)11:53
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SirKthis sucks, i hate nickserv11:53
ompaulCaglar, try learning as much as you can about scripting in gimp today :-)11:53
DrgbReading from filehandle failed at /usr/share/perl5/GNUpod/FooBar.pm line 300.11:53
Drgbok, foobar, can you see it?11:53
Kamping_Kaiserlol ompaul11:53
Drgbit's an app to connect to ipod and check some files i think11:53
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Kamping_Kaiseri don't have gnupod, so i wont have it11:54
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you pastebin any errors?11:54
Drgbbut, as you can see it fails on line 30011:54
Drgbthat's the only error11:54
Drgbhowever, i looked into foobar.pm11:54
Drgbthat line contained a md5::digest string11:54
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you open a terminal, and launch gnupod from there pls?11:54
Drgbso i think that doesn't work11:54
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, ehm....I can't "launch" it11:55
Wilfwhat...the hell...11:55
Drgbi can just do some things with it11:55
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Wilfsound works fine through mozilla (macromedia flash)11:55
Wilfbut not through anything else11:55
Drgbthere's a different app for each thing you need to do11:55
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: why cant you launch it?11:55
Kamping_Kaiseroh, ok11:56
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Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you pastebin anything you think might help working out the problem? like line 300? any other errors etc?11:56
Drgbhowever, i tried to apt-get install libmd5-perl11:56
Drgbokok, line300's here for you11:56
ompaulDrgb, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl11:56
paalI have a small problem with gtkam. i have connected my camera, but when i try to download the pictures i get: Problem getting file.jpg from folder /dcim/106canon11:57
Kamping_Kaiserpaal: looks like an absolute url to me11:58
Kamping_Kaisertry putting in /media/dcim/11:58
paalwhere?11:58
Kamping_Kaiserand on my camera it's capials DCIM IIRC11:58
Kamping_Kaiser(but i don't have it handy to check)11:58
Kamping_Kaiserpaal: can you see the pictures?11:58
paalyes11:58
paalbut not download11:58
Kamping_Kaiserpaal: can you get file info on the pictures? such as the path they think they are at?11:59
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lucasvois there any OS-licensed fonts archive?12:00
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paalthe pictures seem to be located in /dcim/106canon/12:01
Kamping_Kaiserlucasvo: in mutliverse thers the msttf12:01
Kamping_Kaiserpaal: is that /media/ ?12:01
lucasvoKamping_Kaiser: I don't want microsoft fonts, I wan't gpl fonts12:01
Kamping_Kaiseroh ok12:02
paali dont know Kamping_Kaiser12:02
Kamping_Kaiserhave a search around, I'm not sure luc12:02
paalthanks12:02
Kamping_Kaiserpaal: try opening nautilus and browising to /meda/12:02
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, i posted everuthing on pastebin.ubuntulinux-nl as "Drgb"12:02
new2ubuntuhello...was wondering if someone might be able to tell me if there is any type of workaround I might be able to try to get my modem working under linux?12:02
Drgb*everything12:02
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Kamping_Kaiserok Drgb12:03
Kamping_Kaisernew2ubuntu: you have 2 chances : bucklyes and none12:03
Kamping_Kaiser*buckleys12:03
new2ubuntulol12:03
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  if I have /dev/sda3 ext3 and sd4 swap then my boot inside sda3?12:04
irvinnew2ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto12:04
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: grub goes on the mbr, then points to where ever it's pointed, did you do a default install?12:04
irvin!help12:04
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new2ubuntuwell its a conexant chip/HP, and I've tried the linuxant drivers, It *sounds* like its attempting the connection, even may do the handshake but it sounds like the connection fails after that?12:05
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  now it seems I fixed the mbr issue, becuase I got into grub but Couldnt boot to linux got file not found error 15.12:05
paalcould someone mention another software to use, besides gtkam?12:05
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  so it seems I have to fix my menu.lst12:06
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Kamping_KaiserMadeye: then your boot info is missing.12:06
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MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, seems that, How to get correct boot info ?12:07
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Kamping_KaiserMadeye: you ran grub install?12:07
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: just a minte :|12:07
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Kamping_Kaiserit's all happening :|12:08
llukaxahh omg tuxpuck is impossible!12:08
paalhow do i install .deb packages?12:08
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, don't worry...I'm reading patiently...ghghgg...and laughing as a fool12:08
Hobbsee!deb12:08
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb12:08
korptrun setup.exe12:08
Hobbseekorpt: setup.exe?12:08
korpthaha12:08
korptim just playin.12:08
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Kamping_Kaiserlol12:09
thoreauputic;-)12:09
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  yes12:09
korptouch12:09
Hobbseehehe12:09
Kamping_Kaisercheek12:09
thoreauputicheh12:09
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: ouch12:09
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, this ouch scared me12:09
korptnugger12:10
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: i havent tried to fix that before. the only way i know is to go live cd and try and rebuild your hdd grub setup. which i would not feel safe doing on another persons pc12:10
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MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  I did grub > root (hd0,2) then setup12:12
HobbseeMadeye: which file is missing?  i wasnt reading much earlier...12:12
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, I think it's just a small trick12:12
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new2ubuntuthanks for the reading irwin...good stuff :)12:13
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: with any luck yes, but i don't know the small trick ;)12:13
MadeyeHobbsee, one sec, lemme get the full error12:13
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: it wont say what's missing. it just says stuffs not there12:13
j-linuxI am having terrible problems installing Ubuntu Breezy to my new ThinkPad T43...  2 days worth.  The live CD works great, but can't install.  I have posted some information here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kLYuMv12.html12:14
HobbseeMadeye: ok, that would be excellent12:14
MadeyeHobbsee,  root (hd0,1) filesystem type is fat, patyiyion yupr 0xc kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro quit splash12:14
SWATIs this a good buy and would it work with ubuntu? (it's bluetooth) http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=Btoes&class=com12:14
Hobbseeer, what the heck???12:15
SWATmerry christmas everyone (by the way)12:15
MadeyeHobbsee,  error 15: file not found  , press any key to countinue...12:15
j-linuxI have also just tried again and it seemed to install Ubuntu... Told me that it detected XP even though I deleted Windows... Then it rebooted and it freezes on Ubuntu Configuration, installing packages, preparing for installtion.  It had previously had errors during this installation -- same ones as mentioned in my paste.12:15
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: change your root to (hd0,2)12:15
HobbseeMadeye: are you trying to boot off a USB disk?12:15
ompaulj-linux, what size is the hard drive?12:15
MadeyeHobbsee, no it's sata hdd on laptop12:15
Hobbseeah ok12:16
ompaulj-linux, I take it you are on the live CD now?12:16
MadeyeHobbsee,  and the problem started when I resized windows XP c:/ to create E shared fat32 for windows and linux I couldn't boot12:16
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, actually that was what I did with grub12:16
j-linuxompaul: I'm on a Windows machine next to my laptop... chatzilla...12:17
ompaulj-linux, okay is the machine booted with the live CD?12:17
j-linuxompaul: my laptop is frozen after reboot on the installing packages part12:17
j-linuxompaul: The ThinkPad doesn't have the ubuntu disk in it anymore (the install one) because it told me to remove it after installation.12:17
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, are you "free" now?12:17
ompaulj-linux, ehh have you got a live cd?12:18
MadeyeHobbsee, what next?12:18
j-linuxIt rebooted into grub, gave me a choice of ubuntu or xp (even though there is no xp)...and is now frozen...12:18
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: sorry, i keep forgetting you :$12:18
new2ubuntuirwin are you still there? Quick question regarding the need for the installation of the Gcc packs?12:18
Drgblol np12:18
j-linuxI have all kinds of live CDs here... Ubuntu Breezy, knoppix 4.02, pizza puppy...12:18
j-linuxompaul: should I boot one up?12:18
HobbseeMadeye: i'm thinking...so...where's the root partition now?  hd0,2?12:18
ompaulj-linux, ubuntu if you want or knoppix please do12:19
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: when it gets to grub, hit escape, so it gives you a menu, then 'e' to edit, then edit `root (hd0,1) filesystem type is fat, patyiyion yupr 0xc kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro quit splash` to be `root (hd0,2) filesystem type is fat, kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro quit splash` or similar.12:19
new2ubuntuare those mandatory if Im running 5.10?12:19
ompaulj-linux, actually try it with the install CD12:19
MadeyeHobbsee, yes12:19
j-linuxompaul:  ok...  put the install CD in?12:19
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ompaulj-linux, lets just try that12:19
Kamping_KaiserDrgb: can you ask thoreauputic or someone who knows stuff, i think i cant help you12:19
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Drgblol12:20
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Kamping_Kaiser*collapses12:20
HobbseeMadeye: and when you follow Kamping_Kaiser's instructions, make sure you hit "b" to boot, not esc :P12:20
DrgbKamping_Kaiser, of course, if thoreauputic wants12:20
j-linuxompaul: ok, rebooting with the install CD.  there is something strange about the ThinkPad harddrive, I think....12:20
j-linuxI'm at the boot prompt12:20
paalgot the camera to work :p12:20
MadeyeHobbsee, okay12:20
paalthanks Kamping_Kaiser12:20
ompaulchoose ubuntu12:20
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: wtf?12:20
thoreauputicDrgb: just ask and see if anyone can help :)12:20
Kamping_Kaiserwd paal12:20
j-linuxompaul: type "ubuntu" ?12:20
Drgbok, thoreauputic can I give you the pastebin link?12:21
ompaulno12:21
new2ubuntuAlso, if I cant get the onboard conexant modem working, can someone suggest a PCMCIA modem that will positively work with Ubuntu/other flavors of Linux?12:21
thoreauputicDrgb: sure12:21
HobbseeMadeye: after you follow Kamping_Kaiser's instructions, that is12:21
j-linuxompaul: it's just a prompt that says "boot:"12:21
Drgbhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/614212:21
j-linuxI usually hit enter at this point.12:21
thoreauputicDrgb: no guarantee I can help though12:21
ompaulj-linux, do that12:21
Drgblol, don't worry12:21
j-linuxok12:21
Drgbeverything can be helpful12:21
j-linuxbooting12:21
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ompaulj-linux, can you give me a minute I want to get some coffee installed to myself12:22
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j-linuxompaul: no problem... should I select the languages?12:22
ompaulj-linux, yes12:22
j-linuxok... thanks.12:22
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thoreauputicDrgb: I know nothing about Perl - but should that say "update" ?12:22
ompaulj-linux, sorry was that screen the one that offers "server" as an option/12:22
irvinnew2ubuntu: better get an external modem12:23
ompaulj-linux, the first screen?12:23
j-linuxompaul: tes12:23
Drgbthoreauputic, update what? i've tried apt-get install libmd5-perl12:23
j-linuxyes12:23
j-linuxI can go back...12:23
Drgbi thought it could work12:23
Drgbbut i had the same result12:23
ompaulj-linux, lets reboot and choose server12:23
Drgbthe apt-get install perl12:23
Kamping_Kaisersorry thoreauputic, i just had to bail *head exploded*12:23
thoreauputicDrgb: no I mean line 30012:23
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ompaulj-linux, back in a sec kettle and coffee :)12:23
Drgbi don't know what to do now :/12:23
j-linuxompaul: no problem, thanks for your help.12:23
Drgbthoreauputic, can you explain better please? i have not understood12:24
troouble-boothi i installed ubuntu- now  i installed windowxp when computer starts it shows just windows how can i get back my ubuntu12:24
thoreauputicDrgb: try editing line 300 to say UPDATE instead of UTDATE12:24
Hobbsee!grub12:24
ubotugrub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:24
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Hobbseetroouble-boot: check the second link there...12:24
Drgbthoreauputic, ah, lol, ok, I'll try12:24
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troouble-bootno i dont get it12:25
Drgbthoreauputic, uhh....no...there are something like 1k of "UTDATE" so I think it's not a mistake12:25
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thoreauputicDrgb: OK - it was just a guess :)12:26
troouble-booti dont have a live cd12:26
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MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, booted started the upslash but then I got /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. #12:26
new2ubuntuwhoops..12:26
Drgbmaybe I should learn perl....omg...12:26
thoreauputicDrgb: what are you trying to do, by the way?12:26
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Kamping_KaiserDrgb: have you checked gnupods home for known bugts?12:26
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: that's a problem with your menu.list IIRC12:27
Drgbthoreauputic, I'm trying to convert a GNUtunesDB.xml into an ItunesDB file....yes Kamping_Kaiser I did12:27
thoreauputicah gnupod - /me is ignorant on this subject12:27
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hypernewbieanyoen do any opengl here12:27
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, hmm and now is it possible to fix it ?12:27
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: got a live cd?12:28
ompaulj-linux, how far have you gotten?12:28
Drgbguys, guys, guys...I think I've got the answer...but you have to give me the second part of it12:28
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  yeah sure, what part of it shall I  edit ?12:28
j-linuxompaul: I'm at the configure the network... I have to type in the static IP12:28
ompaulno you can choose dhcp if your network is12:28
DrgbI'm almost sure it's  missing library but....which one?????12:28
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: does the computer have internet access? for pastebining? or are you on the box?12:28
thoreauputicDrgb: apt-cache depends <your package>  might help12:29
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, I'm on Desktop and the operation being on Laptop.12:29
troouble-bootcan anyone help me12:29
troouble-boothi i installed ubuntu- now  i installed windowxp when computer starts it shows just windows how can i get back my ubuntu12:29
ompaulj-linux, able to - sorry I am not able to keep my brain together enough to put a full sentence on the one line :-/12:29
Drgbthoreauputic, what's "my-package"?12:29
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  but I can config internet on lapto to paste stuff12:29
Kamping_Kaiser(21:23:30) Drgb: Reading from filehandle failed at /usr/share/perl5/GNUpod/FooBar.pm line 300.12:29
thoreauputicDrgb: but apt should have taken care of that12:29
hypernewbietroouble-boot, great job12:29
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j-linuxompaul: ok... no problem... maybe time for some sleep?12:29
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: ok12:30
hypernewbietroouble-boot, try to install grub to the mbr urself12:30
troouble-boothow12:30
thoreauputicDrgb: whatever you tried to install -  libmd5-perl  ?12:30
Drgbyep...12:30
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  want me to paste menu.ls ?12:30
hypernewbietroouble-boot: not sure, google?12:30
Kamping_Kaiser!tell troouble-boot about grub12:30
Drgbthe depending package is "perl"12:30
hypernewbie!grub12:30
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:30
Drgbi installed that too...BUT!!!!!!!!!!12:30
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: yes thanks.12:30
Drgbhey, I've got it12:30
Kamping_Kaiserand i might get more after that12:30
hypernewbieahh12:30
thoreauputicDrgb: well that's there by default...12:30
hypernewbiethx bot12:30
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  :-)  one sec lemme get into desktop and mount boot12:30
ompaulj-linux, it is 11:30 am, so sleep na, I just worked so many hours coming up to christmas, I am slowly waking today :)12:30
DrgbI'm using perl5, not perl...so i think I can switch my per interpreter to perl12:30
DrgbLET'STRY!12:31
troouble-bootthanx for the link but i still dont get it12:31
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: np12:31
hypernewbietroouble-boot, wot dont u get?12:31
troouble-boothow to get my ubuntu to boot12:31
j-linuxompaul:   you must be in Europe?  I'm in Hawaii... 1:30am... :S12:31
hypernewbietroouble-boot, hold on a sec12:31
j-linuxother side of the planet..12:31
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ompaulj-linux, the most westerly side of europe :)12:32
murtunhey all12:32
murtunI am having some sound problems12:32
murtunin that i don;t have any :P12:32
murtunAlsaconfig is not found12:32
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murtunand apt-get install alsaconfig does not work12:32
murtunwhat should i do?12:32
j-linuxI'm 3 weeks behind on work becuase of this laptop problem... my other one broke... This one won't install Linux.... I prefer dual boot but will survive with LInux-only12:33
hypernewbie troouble-boot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:33
j-linuxWill not be happy with Windows-only12:33
ompaulalsactl12:33
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troouble-bootyes i am readin that link12:33
troouble-booti insert the ubuntu cd it starts to boot and to install ubuntu12:34
murtunompaul, what does that let me do?12:34
ompaulmurtun, that is something that I have installed12:34
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murtuni'm reading that man pages now12:34
ompaulmurtun, alsamixer is what I actually use for settings12:35
hypernewbietroouble-boot, LiveCD12:35
murtunWould i not be able to use alsaconfig, i find it alot more simple12:35
j-linuxompaul: what is your idea for the server thing?  Just install the server?12:35
hypernewbietroouble-boot, LiveCD it said12:35
troouble-booti dont have livecd12:35
ompaulj-linux, yes then on the command line you can install the x stuff12:35
hypernewbietroouble-boot, i guess you'll need it...12:35
thoreauputicmurtun: anything happen if you do  "  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?12:35
thoreauputicmurtun: alsaconf is not in ubuntu btw12:35
ompaulthoreauputic, have you seen my brain today?12:36
j-linuxompaul: ok... I'll try going through it.  I'll delete all my partitions except the 4.2 GB factory restore one at the end of the disk...12:36
hypernewbietroouble-boot, do you need any of those two installations?12:36
Raskallhappy christmas day, everyone. :)12:36
murtunthoreauputic, what is the alternative then?12:36
thoreauputicompaul: have I ever ? *grin*12:36
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ompaulhehe12:36
murtunyou too mate12:36
hypernewbietroouble-boot, cause the best way to fix such is format and rip through12:36
troouble-booti need to install just to boot12:36
troouble-bootu mean to reinstall again12:36
hypernewbietroouble-boot, yup12:37
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hypernewbietroouble-boot, BEST, BEST way12:37
rendihi how to compres multiple dir use tar ?12:37
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troouble-booti hate reinstall12:37
hypernewbietroouble-boot, and this time, do things the right order12:37
thoreauputicmurtun: have you checked to see if any channels are muted? ( alsamixer or the volume control)12:37
ompaulj-linux, yeap12:37
rendii wanna backup my site12:37
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hypernewbietroouble-boot, trust me, if u dont need any of the two, format, its worth the trouble12:37
renditar bla bla bla ??12:37
murtunno12:37
thoreauputicmurtun: do that first then12:37
murtunbut i havn't even specified which sound card i want to ise12:37
troouble-bootwell i dont want to format just for a boot shit12:37
murtunnone are12:38
hypernewbietroouble-boot, well u can try fix it, but u need knowledge...lots of it12:38
murtunall are fully up12:38
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murtunbut it is looking at the intgrated Soundcard12:38
hypernewbietroouble-boot, (or u can always blame microsoft)12:38
murtuni want to use another one12:38
thoreauputicmurtun: you have 2 sound cards?12:38
murtunindeed12:38
troouble-booti installed osloader still it does not boot12:38
thoreauputicI see12:38
murtunone that is integrated (crap)12:38
Killalotcna I change the subtitle size with gmplayer12:38
Killalot?12:38
Drgbno way.....I'm desperate..............................I'll rape google some more..............12:39
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hypernewbietroouble-boot, u cant install something and wish it boots. you'll have to do that grub crap12:39
hypernewbietroouble-boot, try synaptic and installing grub and see if that fixes it12:39
hypernewbietroouble-boot, or lilo12:39
Kamping_Kaisergrub12:40
hypernewbielilo12:40
thoreauputicmurtun: lspci | grep -i audio12:40
thoreauputic  <-- does that show 2 cards ?12:40
Kamping_Kaiserubuntu+lilo isnt so good i hear12:40
MickMcMackLilo?12:40
MickMcMackO_o;;;;;;;;12:40
hypernewbiemy friend uses it without troub, bt meh i dont see difference12:40
hypernewbiealthough i do hate grub12:40
hypernewbieits managed to orget 7 windows installations so far on this comp12:41
hypernewbieforget*12:41
Hobbseehypernewbie: most people here use grub, so they are better at troubleshooting it - and it's a lot easier to kill your system with wrong lilo commands than wrong grub commands, i hear12:41
murtun0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)12:41
ompaul!grub12:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:41
murtun0000:06:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)12:41
murtunthoreauputic, i want to use that Cmedia one12:41
hypernewbieHobbsee, probably. i'm out of knowledge for this one12:41
jendaAnyone have a clue why I can't open my router's html interface through 192.168.1.1? It worked some time ago and doesn't now... and the internet connection works. Anyone?12:41
thoreauputicmurtun: well at least the system sees it12:41
thoreauputichang on12:41
murtunk12:42
murtuncan i pm u mate?12:42
thoreauputicmurtun: system - preferences - sound12:42
mjrjenda, your system probably doesn't have a 192.168 network address set up; try: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.0.012:42
murtunSounds strange jenda, ping 192.168.1.1, does that work?12:42
thoreauputicmurtun: see if the drop down allows you to select it12:42
murtunk12:42
ompaulj-linux, how is it going12:42
jendamurtun: that does12:42
murtunk12:43
j-linuxompaul:  It's doing the time zone configuration thing...  Still working...12:43
jendamjr: are you sure, and is there a way to undo that :)?12:43
Hobbseetroouble-boot: did you try that page that you were sent?  the recovering ubuntu after installing windows?12:43
mjrjenda, no, yes12:43
hypernewbieHobbsee, he doesnt have live cd12:43
jendaOK :)12:43
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: several times12:43
j-linuxompaul: it usually gets through most of the installation and even the reboot (although with errors)...12:44
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Hobbseeah ok12:44
Kamping_Kaiserlive cd?12:44
hypernewbieHobbsee, wouldn't u re-install?12:44
Kamping_Kaiserwhat for?12:44
ompaulj-linux, well lets try this - shall we :)12:44
jendamjr: so I should restart the connection now?12:44
Hobbseehypernewbie: for a screwed bootloader?  no, i'd try reinstalling the bootloader first!12:44
j-linuxompaul:  I hope it works :)12:44
thoreauputicmurtun: I'm pretty sure that card is supported so it should work - if not you can google for the module/driver and modprobe it12:44
mjrjenda, no?12:44
murtunthoreauputic, System settings > Sound > Hardware ?12:44
j-linuxIn two days I've installed Windows once (many hours and 6 CDs), and Linux about 3 times...12:44
mjrjenda, you should just try the command and then try to contact the router12:44
Drgbguys, I found the mail address of the "Digest::MD5" module creator........I think I'll mail him and ask for some help...I hope he knows perl :D12:44
hypernewbieHobbsee, i hate bootloaders.12:44
ompaulj-linux, well I have had failures before and it worked where a straight install did not12:45
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jendamjr: I dunno. Why did you put 192.168.1.2 when the router should be 1.1?12:45
Hobbseehypernewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652 is also quite useful, it's under !reinstallgrub12:45
j-linuxompaul:  it's a great idea... thanks.12:45
thoreauputicmurtun: no, there should be a drop down on the first tab I think12:45
murtunright, i have no idea how to do tha kinda stuff :S12:45
murtunOh, there isn't12:45
paalis there a software that show the weather where you live? temperature etc?12:45
mjrjenda, because you don't want the same IP address for the computer as for the router...12:45
hypernewbieHobbsee, leme check that, my knowledge of grub is negative12:45
jendamjr: Ah I see12:45
ompaulpaal, I use an extention to firefox for that12:45
j-linuxompaul:  it is just starting to have errors.  A screen says that it detects XP on the drive... but I deleted it several installation ago!12:45
Hobbseehypernewbie: top post, uses the standard installer to reinstall grub :P12:45
jendamjr: But it's supposed to be Dynamic IP12:45
thoreauputicmurtun: you should see General - Sound events - System bell12:46
ompaulj-linux,  that is that last partition you did not delete12:46
hypernewbieHobbsee, have u tried installing knoppix before?12:46
j-linuxompaul-- maybe it is detecting the last partition12:46
j-linuxyes12:46
thoreauputicmurtun: on the General tab is your sound card12:46
jendamjr: is there a way to check the IPtable?12:46
hypernewbieHobbsee, i tried once and i got a nice grub load fail error 15...12:46
j-linuxompaul: should I install GRUB to the MBR?12:46
jendamjr: even without the router?12:46
mjrjenda, doesn't matter, 192.168 is a private address space, and that :0 means that the address will be set up in _addition_ to your dynamic one12:46
Hobbseehypernewbie: no, and i've had an error 15 before12:46
ompaulj-linux, yes12:46
j-linuxompaul: ok... here goes...12:46
jendaOK12:46
murtunthoreauputic, there is no drop down12:46
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murtunthoreauputic, just box;s12:46
j-linuxompaul: nice... it skipped the part that always breaks it... and rebooted.12:47
thoreauputicmurtun: what do you see? is there a default sound card there? Should be12:47
ompaulj-linux, that was the plan :-)12:47
j-linuxompaul: now it's in GRUB, says there is Windows but just booted into Ubuntu..12:47
hypernewbieHobbsee, wth is a grub error15?12:47
jendamjr: so is there a way to check the iptable?12:47
ompaulthat is great12:47
Madeye Kamping_Kaiser sorry but for some reason I cannot get menu.lst now12:47
thoreauputicmurtun: or are you loking in the wrong place?12:47
thoreauputic*looking12:47
mjrjenda, I don't know what you're asking12:47
Hobbseehypernewbie: well, grub screwed up with one of the dapper updates, so i had to edit it manually, after getting an error 1512:47
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ompaulj-linux, did you want to install xp on this box ever?12:48
j-linuxompaul: is there a way to later shrink the ext3 partition that has ubuntu and install XP?  I have a feeling the 6 CDs that IBM provides won't do it...12:48
j-linuxompaul: yes... I would like to... just for work that other people give me.12:48
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murtunthoreauputic,  i am looking at: System settings > Sound and media >12:48
ompaulj-linux, no you should install XP first12:48
jendamjr: I would like to know the IPs of components in the network. Like the router12:48
murtuni am on kubuntu btw12:48
thoreauputicmurtun: I'm talking about System -Preferences - Sound12:48
ompaulj-linux, then install ubuntu12:48
murtunohhh12:48
thoreauputicmurtun: *sigh*12:48
thoreauputicmurtun: I thought you were in ubuntu/gnome12:48
murtunthoreauputic, ??12:49
Sh4d0xhi thoreauputic, merry X-mas12:49
ompaulj-linux, create a partition if 10 or so gigs for windows install it and then install ubuntu12:49
murtunthoreauputic, yeah sorry aboutthat12:49
j-linuxompaul: I will at least finish this install to see if I can even get Linux on this machine... no luck with 3 installs yet,.....  The problem with XP is that I can't shrink the NTFS partition for some reason.12:49
mjrjenda, you can try ping -b 255.255.255.25512:49
thoreauputicSh4d0x: hi :)12:49
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser,  a result of fdisk -l would help till I figure how to access menu.lst again ?12:49
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ompaulj-linux, well you can choose not to give it the full disk at the install stage12:49
j-linuxompaul: I posted an earlier part of my story here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kLYuMv12.html12:49
Kamping_KaiserMadeye: sure12:50
hypernewbieHobbsee, hmm...12:50
j-linuxompaul: looks like Linux server is on the laptop...12:50
robert__exit12:50
Kamping_Kaiserbut i have to warn you (well everyone) that my brains just gone dead. *totaly useless*12:50
ompaulj-linux, that post is why this conversation is taking place12:50
ompaul:)12:50
HobbseeMadeye: why cant you get to menu.lst?12:50
thoreauputicmurtun: dig around in kcontrol then12:50
j-linuxompaul: I'm logged in... great so far.12:50
MadeyeHobbsee, not sure why, I mounted /boot to mnt but there is no grub menu.lst12:50
murtunthoreauputic, kk12:50
jendamjr: k, that gave me my PC and the sip phones. But not the router.12:50
ompaulj-linux, now do this >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gdm xserver-xorg<<12:51
Kamping_Kaiserwhy the hell does the grub resore instructions require the live cd?12:51
HobbseeMadeye: type "mount" and pastebin the output?12:51
j-linuxompaul: ok..12:51
Kamping_Kaiserhonestly. how stupid can you get12:51
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: i've often wondered that, i just use !reinstallgrub factoid...12:51
ompaulj-linux, write this down I won't be here for you when the end part takes place12:51
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j-linuxok12:51
hypernewbie!reinstallgrub12:51
ubotuI guess reinstallgrub is to reinstall GRUB, follow the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7665212:51
murtunthoreauputic, ok, i go to >Sound system - Control center > hardware12:51
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: i stilll use !grub from when it was accurate.12:51
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Hobbseetrue,  i think it changed12:52
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mjrjenda, that's because the router only has the 192.168 address, which I told you how to get to if you like12:52
murtunand there is a drop down menu asking for me to select thr h/w12:52
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: I'll try and remember the new one, but it's more the principal of the matter12:52
Hobbseedefinetly12:52
MadeyeKamping_Kaiser, it's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6144 Hobbsee result of mount http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/614512:52
cvt|ubuntui installed galaga so why isn't it in the games list?12:52
ompaulj-linux, do this and then reboot :)  >>>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<12:52
testmachinehm12:52
murtunthoreauputic, but none of my soundcards are listed12:52
mjrjenda, (and in fact, it appears that your "router" is rather a bridge, but that's technicalities)12:52
jendamjr: I did that, but it didn't help, i think12:52
ompaulj-linux, that will give you a basic ubuntu install12:52
testmachinemy firefox wont run as user anymore12:52
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testmachineonly as root12:52
hypernewbiehmm...one of the stupid ubuntu forums posts....was asking how the HELL u remove ubuntu??? u can't get rid of it with add/remove software!12:53
mjrjenda, try ping 192.168.1.112:53
thoreauputicmurtun: I'm in gnome so I can't help much I fear - you need someone like crimsun to help with sound anyway12:53
testmachinebut ok12:53
testmachineshowe time12:53
ompaulj-linux, and so it is that I have to head off12:53
jendaPING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.12:53
jenda64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=0.736 ms12:53
jenda64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=0.732 ms12:53
jenda64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=0.817 ms12:53
jenda64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=0.733 ms12:53
jenda64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=0.852 ms12:53
ompaulj-linux, enjoy it12:53
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jenda--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---12:53
jenda5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms12:53
jendartt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.732/0.774/0.852/0.050 ms12:53
ompauljenda, DO NOT PASTE12:53
jendaoops, sorry12:53
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mjrjenda, please don't paste here12:53
j-linuxompaul: thanks for your help!12:53
murtunnvm12:53
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murtunthanks alot thoreauputic12:54
Drgbuh oh....12:54
murtunmerry christmas all :)12:54
murtunadois12:54
ompaulj-linux, as I said enjoy12:54
HobbseeMadeye: sudo nano /mnt/work/boot/grub/menu.lst - does that work?12:54
mjrjenda, anyway, that tells me that your computer now can contact the bridge at its IP12:54
thoreauputicjenda: I'll remove the gag - but *don't * do that !12:54
j-linuxI will... :)12:54
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ompaulhave a nice day folks be it the 25th or 26th for you :)12:55
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ompaulthoreauputic, the christmas spirit?12:55
ompaul:)12:55
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hypernewbieu too12:55
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thoreauputicompaul: sort of , yeah :)12:55
jendaompaul: lol...12:55
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hypernewbie!foo12:56
ubotumethinks foo is $FOO %FOO  foo`ie12:56
thoreauputicpeace on earth, including #ubuntu :)12:56
ompaulZaijian!12:56
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hypernewbiegod damn someone changed it!!!12:56
hypernewbie!christmas12:56
ubotuhypernewbie: I don't know, could you explain it?12:56
foxinesswhen the the cd 3 of dapper will come out ?12:56
hypernewbieubotu christamas is somewhere around about now.12:57
ubotuokay, hypernewbie12:57
Hobbsee!tell hypernewbie about msgthebot12:57
hypernewbie!christmas12:57
ubotuI don't know, hypernewbie12:57
Hobbsee!botabuse12:57
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg without being banned.12:57
jendamjr: but what now?12:57
foxinesshaha12:57
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Seveas!foo12:58
ubotuI haven't a clue, Seveas12:58
Seveasgood12:58
foxinesshaha12:58
Hobbsee:P i took it out Seveas :)12:58
mjrjenda, what do you mean what now?12:58
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SeveasHobbsee, (y)12:58
hypernewbie:(12:59
mjrjenda, I haven't the foggiest what you want to do with all this information, you know :)12:59
foxinesshypernewbie, hello :)12:59
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Seveashypernewbie, next time bot abuse will be rewarded with a permanent ban12:59
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jendamjr: I'm trying to access the html interface (because I wont to check the IPs and set up a prot forward)12:59
mjrjenda, yep, and you should be able to do that at 192.168.1.1 now01:00
foxinesshypernewbie, if you want to play with ubotu , do that by '/msg ubotu !tell me'01:00
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mjrhttp://192.168.1.1 rather01:00
ubuntuHobbsee, Kamping_Kaiser it's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/614601:00
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Grapsushi01:00
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jendamjr: But I can't01:00
jendamjr: It just doesn't load the html interface.01:01
MadeyeBrainDeadKK, Hobbsee it's madeye btw01:01
Hobbseejust saw that :)01:01
RaskallI am extremely happy with breezy on my new server, btw. All software is nearly perfectly configured from scratch with cron jobs and everything. Ubuntu is getting better and better. I am really anxious to see the next release.01:01
Grapsusi can't install ubuntu, ihave an "debootstrap error" when it installs the base system, i tried 5.10 and 5.04 it's the same error01:01
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mjrjenda, if you have a proxy set in your browser, tell it not to use it. Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.01:01
everton137Hi, can someone give me some tip of what I need to read to use a mp3playr machine one linux? thanks01:01
jendamjr: hmm no proxy AFAIK01:02
deFrysk!mp301:02
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:02
cthulhuhi01:02
Grapsushelp me please01:02
cthulhucan somebody help me with the IR support under linux01:03
HobbseeMadeye: didnt you have to change the top one to hd(0,2) or something?01:03
phreak97how do i view a tasklist and end tasks (like alt ctrl delete in windows)?01:03
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phreak97firefox died01:03
Hobbseesorry, that darned pasting flood sent information out of my brain...01:03
MadeyeHobbsee, I did but it seems it's not getting save01:03
Hobbseephreak97: top, in a terminal01:04
Madeyesaved*01:04
hypernewbiephreak97, applications>system tools>system monitor01:04
thoreauputicphreak97: try pkill firefox-bin01:04
HobbseeMadeye: where did you try to save it?  use control+x?01:04
hypernewbieor gnome-system-monitor01:04
HobbseeMadeye: then hit y, enter01:04
phreak97system monitor worked01:04
concept10anyone else have problems with drag and drop in breezy?01:05
phreak97can i set it up so that comes up when i get alt ctrl delete?01:05
Grapsuscan i try to install ubuntu true the network??01:05
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hypernewbiephreak97, nope, thats windows :)01:05
Hobbseehypernewbie: phreak97 i thought you could, actually...01:05
MadeyeHobbsee, and after I edit it from grub and then pressed b, I got error , damn I cannot remember what was the error after altering it to hd0,201:05
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hypernewbieHobbsee, probably can01:06
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apricotplease, a sound related question!!!01:06
Hobbseehypernewbie: phreak97 got no idea if it's still in date, but here http://ubuntuguide.org/#enablectrlaltdelopensystemmonitorgnome01:06
thoreauputicSystem -Preferences -Keyboard Shortcuts perhaps?01:06
apricotwhen i play music it feels like beyond the wall01:07
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hypernewbiethoreauputic ,nope01:07
HobbseeMadeye: might be worht trying again to see what the error was01:07
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hypernewbieapricot, volume, eq?01:07
apricotmaybe driver?01:07
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Grapsusevery boby ignored me here, thank you very much01:08
hypernewbieapricot, yeh linux sound does suck, but ubuntu has one of the better linux sounds01:08
hypernewbie(i rekon)01:08
MadeyeHobbsee, i'm talking now fromt the live CD, so isn't there anyway to test it without rebooting ?01:08
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thoreauputicGrapsus: not exactly - probably no one knew an answer01:08
apricotis there a solution01:08
apricot?01:08
HobbseeGrapsus: there are plenty of people asking and answering questions, its' very easy to miss questions01:08
HobbseeMadeye: um...if you can give us the number of the error message, that would help...01:09
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Grapsusit's not too hard to say if ubuntu can be installed trough the network like debian?01:09
apricoti have via sound driver for linux, but it is in rpm package, can you help me?01:09
hypernewbieapricot, use alien01:10
deFryskapricot, dont install it01:10
hypernewbieapricot or get a tar.gz package01:10
ravvGrapsus, debian installer==ubuntu installer.01:10
thoreauputicGrapsus: it can be - but at the moment it is kind of involved and AFAIK involves using a debian CD or floppies01:10
deFryskdont install it01:10
hypernewbieapricot, or get a .deb, the best format for ubuntu01:10
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deFryskapricot, check your settings first01:10
phreak97where's my xchat directory?01:10
apricotwhy to not instal it?01:10
MadeyeHobbsee, ah ok, what happen is after alter it to hd0,2 upslash appear, then start to load modules then I got bin/bash error01:11
deFryskapricot, cos you dont need it01:11
Grapsushum ok so i can't01:11
hypernewbieapricot, drivers + rpm+ ubuntu == bad01:11
Hobbseephreak97: locate xchat, probably somewhere in your home dir01:11
apricotwhere do i check settings?01:11
hypernewbiephreak97, look in usr/share?01:11
johan_i try to install mplayer on ubuntu and dont find the correct sources.llist anyboyd can help me?01:11
deFryskapricot, richtklick the littlle speaker in the richt top01:11
Hobbseephreak97: or maybe usr/bin01:11
deFryskright01:11
HobbseeMadeye: sounds like you're making progress then, getting beyond grub...01:12
hypernewbieHobbsee, yep usr/bin01:12
thoreauputicphreak97: what do you need to do?01:12
deFryskapricot, then open volume control01:12
MadeyeHobbsee, hmm where should I look then ?01:12
Grapsusi'll try ext2 instead of ext 3, maybe debootstrap wont crash01:12
deFryskand see if the settings are ok01:12
hypernewbiejohan_ did u edit the sources,list?01:12
phreak97Install:01:12
phreak97Place it in your ~/.xchat/ directory and restart X-Chat.01:12
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thoreauputicphreak97: there are several places xchat is installed - it depends why you need to know01:12
phreak97i want to install a plugin01:13
thoreauputicphreak97: ah - try ~/.xchat201:13
phreak97and i didnt install xchat, it came with the distro01:13
deFryskapricot, check if master and pcm are at about 80%01:13
thoreauputicphreak97: yes I know :)01:13
HobbseeMadeye: um, well, that really depends on what the error it is, but google's a good place :P01:13
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thoreauputicphreak97: so it is installed by default in fact01:13
MadeyeHobbsee, if I booted to windows and removed that new partition do you think the problem will be solved? or is there any software from windwos I can use to fix all this boot problem ? because I really need to get some work done ASAP01:13
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MadeyeHobbsee,  i know I become so annoying01:13
phreak97ok, that worked01:14
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HobbseeMadeye: not at all01:14
hypernewbieMadeye, no windows software can fix all(anything)01:14
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HobbseeMadeye: well, you could try booting to windows, and doing your work on there for a while, but...01:14
apricotthey are, but the sound still s...01:14
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MadeyeHobbsee,  all of my work under linux01:15
hypernewbieMadeye, or the live-cd.....01:15
HobbseeMadeye: it really depends on what the error is, and if anyone else has had it/knows how to fix it01:15
thoreauputicphreak97: don't bother to thank anyone - we live to serve you ;)01:15
deFryskapricot, via sound is perfectly supported by ubuntu01:15
MadeyeHobbsee,  Ok, i'll boot now and write down the error message01:15
Hobbseegood idea01:15
Madeyethanks01:15
Seveasthoreauputic, :)01:16
apricotok01:16
hypernewbieso...anyone know any opengl?01:16
deFryskapricot, wich app gives you a poor quality ?01:16
thoreauputicSeveas: happy whatever, dude :)01:16
apricotbut there is a difference01:16
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Seveasthoreauputic, likewise01:17
apricotall music players!01:17
thoreauputicSeveas: :)01:17
deFryskapricot, in gnome ?01:17
hypernewbie:)01:17
apricotbut not the system sounds.01:17
apricotyas gnome01:17
hypernewbieapricot, u tried gstreamer 0.8-ffmpeg?01:17
apricotand games like americas is good01:17
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hypernewbiei got that, that gives me pretty nice quality01:17
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deFryskapricot, open gstreamer-properties and check if the output is set to esd and test is01:18
johan_anybody knows what i have to add in sources.list for installing mplayer?01:18
chris_wongI need some help with gnomad2. anyone?01:18
hypernewbiejohan_, just try everything01:18
Hobbseejohan_: multiverse, then apt-cache search mplayer for the correct package01:18
hypernewbiejohan_, make sure u run apt-get update though01:18
Hobbsee!tell johan_ about repos01:19
apricotwhere is gstreamer?01:19
Seveasapricot, installed by default..01:19
hypernewbieapricot, packages.ubuntu.org01:19
deFryskapricot, use your console01:19
deFryskapricot, gstreamer-properties01:19
hypernewbieapricot, gstreamer ffmpeg is not installed thouh01:19
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apricotyes it is esd01:20
deFryskapricot, test works fine ?01:20
apricotno, the test failed01:20
deFryskapricot, then try alsa01:20
deFryskapricot, select alsa01:21
apricothow, please?01:21
hypernewbieapricot, press the big red button01:21
apricotfail01:21
deFryskarrow down button next to output01:21
deFryskhypernewbie, shut up01:21
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cvt|ubuntucan java for websites be installed by synaptic?01:21
apricotwhat now?01:22
thoreauputic!java01:22
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:22
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deFryskapricot, this is wierd to be honest01:22
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deFryskapricot you have an onboard soundchip ?01:22
londonboi2k3Merry crimbo ppls, does anyone know of a webmail client I can use to access my mail remotly01:23
Pegasos989Hmmh. When I try to mount a BIN file it complains about bad superblock. Is i because of I use ISO9660 when mounting or is the file bad? :/01:23
apricotno, integrated nvidia01:23
SeveasPegasos989, BIN files can't be mounted01:23
SeveasPegasos989, use bchunk to convert it to iso01:23
deFryskapricot, and your motherboard does not have on board sound ?01:23
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Pegasos989ok, thanks a lot seveas01:23
apricotyes, sorry onboard nvidia01:23
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srbakeryo01:24
hypernewbiehi01:24
chris_wongnoone can help me with gnomad2?01:24
srbakerif i install kubuntu desktop, will it switch me to kde righ taway?01:24
deFryskapricot, and a loose via sound card is what you use ??01:24
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apricot?01:24
hypernewbiesrbaker, yep01:24
Pegasos989!bchunk01:24
ubotuPegasos989: Bugger all, i dunno01:24
Hobbseesrbaker: no, you log out, then choose your session (kde), then log in, and it will01:24
Seveaschris_wong, not if you don't say what the problem is...01:24
deFryskapricot, you said you had via sound ?01:24
thoreauputicsrbaker: you just select it on login01:24
srbakerokay.  will it install kdm as the default?01:25
apricotno, i was thinking the card needed a new sounddriver01:25
srbakeri'm thinkinga bout trying it, there are some kde apps i want to try out01:25
srbakerand, are there any anti-rsi apps for KDE?  like workrave for gnome?01:25
thoreauputichypernewbie: if you don't know, please don't mislead people01:25
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hypernewbiethoreauputic, well it does switch right away does it...01:25
deFryskapricot, if you are using a seperate soundcard, make sure to disable onboard sound in your bios01:25
Seveassrbaker, /sbin/shutdown is excellet against rsi :)01:25
chris_wongseveas, i get this error: cannot set usb_set_configuration'01:25
thoreauputichypernewbie: no, you have to logout/in01:25
apricotno, it is integrated01:26
apricotsoundcard01:26
deFryskok01:26
thoreauputichypernewbie: it isn't magic, you know01:26
hypernewbiethoreauputic yeh course01:26
srbakerthx01:26
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hypernewbiethoreauputic: bah wahtever01:26
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Sh4d0xthoreauputic, lol on X-mas everything is possible ;) :D even magic ;)01:27
deFryskapricot, not sure how to fix this one maybe the next ubuntu-version wil support your soundchip better01:27
apricotok, must go now, thanks.01:27
thoreauputicSh4d0x: yes but computer operating systems don't know that ;-)01:27
hypernewbiethoreauputic, until it comes to windows01:27
thoreauputichypernewbie: huh?01:28
hypernewbiethoreauputic, windows does good magic on christmas01:28
Sh4d0xthoreauputic :D imagination ;)01:28
hypernewbie:)01:28
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greenpenguin13how come there are people on here at christmas? :)01:28
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Sh4d0xhypernewbie, the only present you get from windows on X-mas is a nice format C:  :D01:29
Seveasgreenpenguin13, because not everyone celebrates it?01:29
thoreauputicgreenpenguin13: there are people here 24/7/36501:29
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greenpenguin13:-p01:29
hypernewbieSh4d0x, indeed. ormaybe a few boot errors01:29
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Sh4d0xhypernewbie, guess that's why we are all on ubuntu it offers exactly what you want from you os :D01:30
Sh4d0xgreenpenguin13: we are the die-hard linux kern :D01:30
SeveasSh4d0x, this is #ubuntu, not #windows-bashing01:30
hypernewbieSh4d0x, until u get onto an ubuntu chatrooom with no christmas spirit01:30
ratm_when i download the newest ubuntu installation cd, does it include all necessary tools to compile a new kernel?01:30
londonboi2k3uuare there any howtos for sqwebmail?01:30
deFryskratm_, no01:31
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Sh4d0xSeveas, sry, it was stronger then myself -x-01:31
Seveasratm_, no you need gcc-3.401:31
hypernewbieSh4d0x see what i mean?01:31
Seveasif you use dapper, then all tools are included (apart from the kernel source) sice dapper uses gcc4 for the kernel01:31
Sh4d0xhypernewbie , uhu, shall we make some x-mas sfeer in this room? :D01:31
Wilfanyone installed the "lmsensors" package?01:32
deFryskhypernewbie, Sh4d0x try #ubuntu-offtopic01:32
johndarkhorseSh4d0x: perhaps better in #ubuntu-offtopic01:32
SeveasSh4d0x, this is a support room, offtopic somewhere else01:32
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hypernewbieSh4d0x, see wot i mean...01:33
Seveashypernewbie, enough.01:33
ratm_Seveas, what is dapper? cant find anything on the page..01:33
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deFrysk!dapper01:33
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake01:33
Seveasratm_, dapper is the development version of Ubuntu01:33
thoreauputichypernewbie: --->> #ubuntu-offtopic for Christmas spirit ;-)01:33
ratm_hrm, so there is no installation (except of dapper) which can compile a new kernel without having an internet connection?01:34
Wilfi wish i could name the next ubuntu version...01:34
Sh4d0xhypernewbie :) guess we better stay ontopic yet :)01:34
cvt|ubuntuon these java instructions, do i have to hit enter after each instruction in the terminal?01:34
Seveasratm_, hoary can do it too01:34
Sh4d0xcvt|ubuntu, yup01:34
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Sh4d0xcvt|ubuntu, but that's only a few times :)01:35
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cvt|ubuntuis it supposed to say No such file or directory?01:35
ratm_..so why can hoary but not 5.1?01:35
deFryskcvt|ubuntu, at least you dont have to reboot :D01:35
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cvt|ubuntulol01:35
Seveasratm_, hoary uses 3.4 for everything, breezy 4.0 for all but the kernel01:35
Seveasand there is no room for 2 c compilers on the cd01:35
Wilfbreezy picks up my ipod and gives it it's own little ipod icon on the desktop.01:36
deFryskcvt|ubuntu, it means you are not in the correct folder/directory01:36
Wilfhow awesome is that.01:36
Sh4d0xguy's i'm off for my riding lessons, cheers xxx01:36
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hypernewbie_ok dudes calm down01:36
hypernewbie_i'm sorry01:36
ratm_so i could use hoary first..then compile the 2.6.14 and then upgrade to 5.10 ?01:36
viscounthaving ant issues "Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/lib/tools.jar" but I have the sun-jdk-1.5 installed, ant just doesnt seem to realize it, can anyone help?01:36
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Seveasteamwork :)01:36
cvt|ubuntucool01:36
ratm_teamwork?01:37
deFryskpeace01:37
cvt|ubuntuwhere should i install java?01:38
deFryskcvt|ubuntu, you downloaded the sunjava.bin (NOT sunjava.rpm.bin )?01:38
cvt|ubuntuyes01:38
Seveascvt|ubuntu, then apt-get install java-package01:38
deFryskwith the browser ?01:38
Seveasand fakerooot make-jpkf filename-of-sun-file.bin01:38
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deFryskif you downloaded irt wth firefox you have to cd Desktop , its the default downloadfolder in ubuntu01:39
cthulhuerror compiling lirc can somebody help me??01:39
deFryskirt = it01:39
Seveascthulhu, apt-get install lirc01:40
Hobbseecthulhu: and for future reference, pastebin the error and include it with your questoin :P01:41
cvt|ubuntuSeveas, command not found01:41
Seveascvt|ubuntu, it's fakeroot, not fakerooot sorry01:41
deFryskooh01:42
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forkbombis there a free driver for softmodems?01:42
Seveasno01:43
thoreauputicforkbomb: depends which one01:43
forkbombcause i'm thriving on 14.4 k01:43
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thoreauputicforkbomb: my advice would be to get yourself a real hardware modem (serial port)01:44
cthulhuSeveas, i tried installing it with apt, the installation goes well, but it doesnt seem to work01:44
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forkbombthoreauputic, hmm01:44
Seveascthulhu, paste the commands you used and their output on the pastebin please01:44
thoreauputicforkbomb: winmodems/softmodems are a pain01:44
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forkbombthoreauputic, yes they are, i figures :)01:44
thoreauputic;-)01:44
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korpixg'day matee01:45
korpixi just installed01:45
korpixubuntu01:45
korpixand i cant setup my adsl01:45
korpixim on xp right noq01:45
korpix*Now01:45
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korpix..01:46
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Wilfarf arf stupid gdesklets...01:46
Wilfwork damn you!01:46
Seveaskorpix, please dont use enter as punctuation...01:46
mahanguwtf are gdesklets01:46
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SeveasWilf, :)01:46
thoreauputickorpix: is it an USB modem or a router ?01:46
korpixyes01:46
korpixUSB01:46
SeveasWilf, which desklet is breaking ?01:46
thoreauputickorpix: do you know what sort? chipset?01:46
Wilfall the ones related to lmsensors.01:46
korpixumm01:47
Seveasah, did you install lmsensors?01:47
korpixu mean modem name ?01:47
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thoreauputickorpix: ethernet connected routers are eaesier..01:47
korpixd-link320G01:47
Seveaskorpix, name, chipset, lsusb output01:47
WilfNot yet...that's the problem...I can't figure out how to :<01:47
cvt|ubuntuit says java-package is already the newest version. but i still can't use java01:47
korpixnope01:47
SeveasWilf, apt-get install lm-sensors01:47
johndarkhorsemahangu: gdesklets, adesklets and superkaramba are the same type of thing (they're like widgets)01:47
korpix..01:47
nelehi! I need help about my /etc/network/interfaces please (spanish)01:47
Seveascvt|ubuntu, java-package is just the tool to turn the .bin file into a .deb01:47
korpixwel01:47
korpix?01:47
cvt|ubuntuoh01:48
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Seveascvt|ubuntu, try this: fakeroot make-jpkg filename-of-sun-file.bin01:48
Wilfwell that was easy.01:48
Wilfwhy isn't it listed in synaptic?01:48
korpixumm01:48
korpixhelp!!01:48
Seveascvt|ubuntu, and then: sudo dpkg -i sun*deb01:48
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thoreauputickorpix: more information needed01:48
Seveaskorpix, don't be annoying please01:48
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korpixk01:48
MickMcMackkorpix, Seveas asked you for some information already.01:48
MickMcMackNo-one can help you until you provide said information.01:48
korpixyeh01:48
korpixi said i dont know01:48
korpixsffs.01:48
Seveaskorpix, then get the info01:48
korpixfrom where?01:49
Seveasand talk horizontal01:49
korpix...01:49
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forkbombkorpix, u on xp?01:49
korpixyes01:49
forkbombkorpix, should be easy to get on xp01:49
korpixk01:49
korpixcommand ?01:49
forkbomberm...01:49
viscountAny ant guru's for some reason its unable to find my 1.5 java, and also more disturbing, can not find the jar tools either. Anyone know how to fix it up?01:49
thoreauputickorpix:  else start with googling for  "d-link320G linux "01:49
Seveasviscount, did you install ant and java via apt-get?01:50
korpixaight mami01:50
thoreauputicviscount:  sudo update-alternatives --config java01:50
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korpixehh01:50
korpixonly 2 hits01:50
korpixand its nuffin01:50
forkbomblol01:50
korpix=\01:50
viscountSeveas, yes01:50
forkbombtry device manager01:50
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Mortis_kruulHi all! Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)01:50
jendamjr: strange... I gat through to the router via telnet... but firefox can't do it.01:50
viscountthoreauputic, already done that, didnt fix it01:50
korpixand get what info ?01:51
viscounthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10814901:51
thoreauputic!enter01:51
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!01:51
Seveas^-- korpix01:51
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jendaMortis_kruul: #ubuntu-offtopic01:51
jendatoo late...01:51
korpixOk01:51
Seveasjust a spammer01:51
korpixanywayz google found nuffin so what now ?01:52
Wilfhmmm. Seveas, lmsensors is installed, however the desklets still don't work...I know my chipset is supported, it's an NVIDIA Nforce 201:52
viscountthoreauputic, Seveas any other ideas? did you see my link to the forum post?01:52
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Seveasviscount, no, please repeat it :)01:52
viscountSeveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10814901:52
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SeveasWilf, -ENOCLUE, I hate gdesklets and don't use them :)01:53
korpix.....01:53
Wilffair enough, thanks anyway :)01:53
forkbombkorpix, device info aint that hard to get on xp01:53
Seveasviscount, update-alternatices --config javac01:53
thoreauputickorpix: find out the info seveas asked for and come back when you have something we can help with01:53
Seveasviscount, update-alternatices --config jar01:53
deFryskupdate-alternatives --config jar01:54
korpixahh01:54
korpixmaybe i dont know how to find out01:54
korpixand still asking for help01:54
Wilfkorpix, just plug the modem into the second data layer of the mainframe, then repeat with the psudo-frame and put it in H01:54
thoreauputickorpix: use your head and look01:54
Seveaskorpix, boot into linux, type lsusb, copy the output to paper, reboot into windows, put the output on the pastebin01:54
Seveasand STOP USING TOO MUCH ENTERs01:54
korpixhaha01:54
thoreauputickorpix: you are just expecting others to do the work for you01:54
korpixok01:54
korpixwell listen its my frist time using it01:55
korpixso how can u be doing all the work ?01:55
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forkbombkorpix, the people here are mean.01:55
Seveasargh01:55
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korpixhah01:55
jbuelerdoes anyone know why i would get this message "bash: make: command not found"?01:55
korpixanywyz bbl01:55
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thoreauputic*sigh* I feel a +q coming on01:55
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thoreauputicmy prophetic soul...01:55
jbueleram i missing the make file?01:55
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Wilfyou're no fun Seveas :<01:56
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glickexcuse me does anyone here use gtk-gnutella?01:56
SeveasWilf, this channel is for support, not for fun :)01:56
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Wilfheh :$01:56
viscountSeveas, thanks, getting closer :) but still no cigar for you! Ok, jar was set to gcj, changed now to sun1.5, java had only one option, but and still looking for sun1.4 and still cant find jar either, weird01:56
Seveasand definitely not for non-listening losers01:56
viscountSeveas, should I uninstall 1.4 perhaps?01:56
Madeyefinally I got into my system01:56
brennerjbueler: have you installed build-essential?01:56
deFryskseeing Seveas in action = fun01:56
Seveasviscount, it may help, ut it would be weird01:57
cthulhuSeveas, ive posted the make output in pastebin01:57
glickdoes anyone know what ports need to be open for it?01:57
jbuelerdont think so..01:57
jbuelerill check01:57
Seveasviscount, 'readlink -f `which java`'01:57
Seveasviscount, what does that say>?01:57
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viscountSeveas, /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java01:57
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Seveascthulhu, where?01:57
forkbomb__dude this admin has pms01:57
MadeyeSeveas, I have 10GB unallocated space, I want to make it shared partition between linux and windows, which is best, partitioning it from linux or windows?01:58
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Seveasban avoiding is sooo lame01:58
jbuelerthat was it thanks01:58
cthulhuSeveas, pastebin.com/47825701:58
glickdoes anyone know why my gnutella hasnt been able to connect?01:58
win[X] ampi need help to set my wi-Fi01:58
glickmy gnutella-gtk01:58
win[X] ampi use atheros01:59
win[X] amptheres anyone can help me?01:59
Seveascthulhu, why don't you simply install lirc from the repositories?01:59
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cthulhuSeveas, i did it, but it didnt seem to work01:59
glickgtk says "Running an old version"01:59
glickand it wont connect to any peers02:00
cthulhuit installs correctly02:00
cthulhubut...02:00
brennerjbueler: np02:00
Seveascthulhu, what are the symptoms?02:00
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MickMcMackO_o02:00
Madeyeguys  I have 10GB unallocated space, I want to make it shared partition between linux and windows, which is best, partitioning it from linux or windows?02:00
Seveaswin[X] amp, atheros should work out of the box (these words flow through an atheros chip), what's the problem?02:00
jendaMadeye: From Linux, as FAT3202:00
johndarkhorseMadeye: linux will allow you to partition and format in any FS you wish02:00
SeveasMadeye, as long as it's formatter as fat it makes no differnce whether to do it from win or lin02:01
deFryskMadeye, fat32 is a good choice for sharing02:01
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glickdo you think i have to upgrade?02:01
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jendaprabably glick02:01
cthulhuSeveas, when i run IRkick, it says taht theres no IR device available02:01
MadeyeSeveas, hmm because I did that before few minutes and I was unable to boot to my system, because actually I resized C:/ to get these 10GB when I resized it I couldn't boot to system then I deleted the partition and things worked02:02
glickjenda, but the repositories only have the old one02:02
Madeyenow I;m asking just not to fall again in that hell02:02
jbuelerdoes anyone know what repos vamps is in?02:02
Seveascthulhu, apt-get build-dep lirc02:02
Seveasand retry compiling02:02
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cthulhuok02:02
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jendaglick: I see... no idea02:02
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jendaSeveas: watch forkbomb02:03
jendaah ok02:03
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nulltixanywayz02:03
nulltixsorry for being rude and i got the info02:04
viscountwould it be a really bad horrid thing that might break my system if i removed gcj?02:04
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SeveasI hate ban avoiders02:04
Seveasviscount, not that I know of02:04
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YAMANhello02:05
BrainDeadKKwow. banned optus02:05
greenpenguin13afternoon02:05
cthulhuSeveas, do i have to restart the computer??02:05
YAMANslm nas0131ls0131n0131z02:05
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Seveaswhat the fuck is up with everyone?02:05
MickMcMackSeveas, shouldn't ban-evadors get g-lined?02:05
Seveasit's christmas and all the trolls wake up...02:06
johndarkhorseMickMcMack: we do what we can02:06
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mifritscheris that normal that on freenode kicking people is called left #chan (requested by xy) ?02:06
j-linuxwell... finally got Ubuntu installed on the ThinkPad T43 -- very difficult, but it's working great.  Breezy is much better than Hoary and Hoary was great.02:06
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Seveasmifritscher, that's not a /kick but a /remove02:07
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poimen:)02:07
Seveaswe prefer to use /remove because it does not trigger auto-rejoin02:07
mifritscherah, ok02:07
mifritscherthanks for the info ;)02:07
linkdoh no! not ubuntu!02:08
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MortisHi all! Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)02:08
linkdmerry christmas folks. now i gotta try and get my new fancy speackers working with my box hehe02:08
Seveasmore fuckers02:09
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viscountSeveas, are these guys serious?02:09
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Seveasyes, I am banning complete providers02:09
linkdhi mite` :P02:09
viscountlike whats the fooking point of doing that stuff02:09
Seveasviscount, nothing at all02:09
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viscounttotally ignorant02:09
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MickMcMackWhat the deuce?02:10
viscountlol02:10
Seveashi MickMcMack :)02:10
Seveasah crap02:10
Seveasnetsplit02:10
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linkd:(02:10
Toma-Seveas: is your site up? :/02:10
Yagisanhmm02:10
Seveaslike we don't have enough shit already02:10
MickMcMackHmmmz.02:10
Seveasubotu, tell Toma- about seveas02:11
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poimenlol02:11
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone02:11
greenpenguin13woah what was that about?02:11
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poimenSevean what shit we have?02:11
cthulhuSeveas, do i have to restart the computer??02:11
Tuxisthi i have a problem with the new nvidia driver02:11
YagisanSeveas: Isn't it the day when things go wrong: Anyway, hows your day ?02:11
Seveasgreenpenguin13, freenode has the hickups :)02:11
SeveasYagisan, not bad :)02:11
greenpenguin13lol :-p02:11
Seveascthulhu, no02:12
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glickanyone know why i might not be able to connect to any peers with gtk-gnutella02:12
MickMcMackFreenode's been doing this for a couple of days now. :(02:12
MickMcMackRegularly.02:12
glickit doesnt seem to be trying to connect to anything02:12
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linkdglick: u behind a router or firewall?02:12
glicklinkd, yes02:12
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viscountSeveas, gcj isnt even installed.. why is ant looking for java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/lib/tools.jar   ...j2se1.4 just got removed as well.. but still it searches.. I cant even find any ant config files.. egads02:12
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no_gatez_fanmore than a couple days, about a week02:12
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Yagisanjbueler: IIRC someone on debian mentors is looking for a vamps sponser - assuming they get one soon, it will end up in dapper universe02:13
cthulhuSeveas i did  apt-get build-dep lirc, but i get the same message in IRKick: no IR device available.02:13
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MickMcMackno_gatez_fan, true - It's probably just that I've only really noticed it recently.02:13
no_gatez_fanperhaps02:13
Tuxisthave anybody solution with new nvidia and ubuntu dapper02:13
linkdglick: hmm, im reading the gtk-gnutella FAQ and it says you dont *need* ports forwarding but it works better if u do02:13
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glicklinkd, right02:14
linkdhttp://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=faq#gnet102:14
glicklinkd, yeah i read that too02:14
glickwhich is why im confused02:14
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linkdah :/02:14
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glickwhat else is there besides gtk-gnutella?02:14
Toma-glick: limewire02:14
linkdlimewire02:14
glickoh god02:14
linkddo u have any error messages associated with the connection issue?02:14
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Toma-glick: nicotine, or even torrents02:15
Inf3ctedFxI have it, limewire.. it works just fine02:15
glicklinkd, yeah here is a link http://pastebin.com/47826202:15
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YagisanSeveas: You know, if you were to ban both optus, and telstra, you would block a large portion of australia from connecting02:15
BrainDeadKKdo it!02:16
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WilfNot me though :P02:16
cvt|ubuntupictures looked stretched; does anyone know how to fix this/02:16
SeveasYagisan, why would I want to do that?02:16
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cthulhuSeveas i did  apt-get build-dep lirc, but i get the same message in IRKick: no IR device available.02:16
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Seveascthulhu, apt-get build dep only makes sure you can *compile* lirc02:16
BrainDeadKKlol. iinet eh wilf02:16
linkdglick: hmm those messages are what i get when i run it, except it works fine for me02:16
jendaSeveas: you wouldn't and that's his point.02:16
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cthulhuSeveas, ohhh02:16
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linkdglick: it does suggest upgrading to the latest version tho02:16
cthulhuok02:16
WilfYep, the third biggest aussie ISP...02:16
BrainDeadKKactualy don't ban telstra, hobbsee is with them ;)02:16
fakedhi arround, i just discovered "dapper" is really cool. You don't need root-permissions for all commands in /sbin :))02:16
glickright but this is the latest ubuntu version02:16
BrainDeadKKfaked: pardon?02:17
jbuelercan someone help me find 'growisofs' ?02:17
BrainDeadKKWilf: I'm with Internode02:17
linkdindeed, but ubuntu versions are released awhile after the actual version is02:17
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Inf3ctedFxglick: use limewire02:17
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fakedBrainDeadKK: every user can execute all commands from /sbin without sudo02:17
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Seveasfaked, that's not new in dapper02:17
WilfBrainDeadKK, ah ok.02:18
linkdi have no idea what could be causing ur problem. i would suggest packet sniffing to locating possible problems, but thats abit excessive, so id suggest finding another peice of software02:18
Toma-there are no telstra or optus bans in the ban list.... what are u guys talking about?02:18
fakedSeveas: the same in breezy??02:18
linkdif it doesnt work with other peices of software then at least u know its not the program!02:18
Seveassame in every distro02:18
Seveaseven in every unix version02:18
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fakedSeveas: every user can use fdisk in every unix-version??02:18
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fakedSeveas: every user can use fdisk in every unix-version??02:19
cthulhuSeveas, i run make but it still didnt compile02:19
Toma-ouch02:19
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fakedSeveas: every user can use mkfs.xxx without sudo?02:19
MickMcMack-_-02:19
Toma-faked: yes. but you cant do squat with it02:19
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cthulhuSeveas, i get the same errors02:19
Toma-faked: you need root persmissions to use /dev entries02:20
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glickumm it looks like the 0.95.x series of gtk-gnutella have been banned and the 0.96.x versions are manditory according to the website02:20
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Toma-faked: the mkfs command can be used to make virtual drives too. kinda like isos02:20
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glickso who should i tell that to so they upgrade the versions?02:20
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fakedToba: cfdisk /dev/hda works to me in dapper as user02:21
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Toma-glick: i can connect with 0.95.402:21
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linkdglick: heh, that could indeed be a good reason02:21
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glickso how do i let the maintainers know to upgrade it in the repos>02:21
glick?02:21
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linkdglick: hmm im not sure, ud have to look thru the ubuntu webby for contact details of someone i think.02:21
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Toma-faked: well guess what u can do?02:21
Toma-thats right! file a bug! :D02:21
Toma-congrats.02:21
fakedToba: I just wrote a new partition table as user, thats fine :)02:21
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Toma-its Toma- thx02:22
fakedToma-: a: I just wrote a new partition table as user, thats fine :)02:22
fakedToma-: oh, sorry02:22
cthulhuSeveas, i get the same errors when runing make02:22
madeyeSeveas I have just formated that shared partition as FAT32, linux has no problem in seeing it, but windows cannot see it as VOLUM.02:22
Seveascthulhu, in that case I have no diea02:22
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cthulhu: (02:23
Seveasmadeye, did you also change the partition type with cfdisk?02:23
Toma-faked: funny thing about development releases.... theyre whats called 'buggy'. meaning it has lots of bugs. its up to you to provide debugging output of all this to the development team, so they can further the production of a fantastic os.02:23
madeyeSeveas No, I don't know what's cfdisk...02:23
linkdglick: there is actually .deb packages on the sf.net download page. i assume these are debian, not ubuntu, packages, but i like to live dangerously and it doesnt ussual do any harm :P02:23
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Yagisanglick: file a bug at launchpad02:24
fakedToma-: do you know the link of ubuntu-bts?02:24
madeyeSeveas ok i'll boot to linux now to do the cfdisk now, but to what type I have to change it /02:24
glickyeah im talkin to one of the ubuntu maintainerrs for that package right now02:25
Inf3ctedFxglick: what was the problem u had with gnutella?02:25
Inf3ctedFxit wont connect?02:25
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glickInf3ctedFx, its expired02:25
Toma-what the heck is ubuntu-bts?02:25
glickthe version that comes with ubuntu02:25
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Seveasmadeye, cfdisk will tell you :)02:26
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Inf3ctedFxwell th?02:26
viscountSeveas, ah fixed it :) --purge java-gcj-compa02:26
Inf3ctedFxI just made a apt-get install gtk-gnutella02:26
rikaiHappy giftmas to all.02:26
viscountcompat*02:26
Inf3ctedFxglick:02:27
linkdheh, giftmas02:27
Seveasviscount, cool, I'll remember that trick02:27
Inf3ctedFxthe 0.95 version?02:27
MickMcMackFreenode has a hangover from Christmas Eve dinner. -_-02:27
viscountrikai, coal for u02:27
SeveasMickMcMack, :)02:27
glickInf3ctedFx, yeah its expored02:27
glickexpired02:27
Inf3ctedFxdanm it02:27
rikaiviscount, sweet! i was thinking of having a winter babrecue anyway :)02:27
Inf3ctedFxok, so has 2b the laters one?02:28
jbuelerI need help installing growisofs02:28
linkdInf3ctedFx: this is from the gtk-gnutella webby, dated 22 nov.: Version 0.96b is a beta version of forthcoming 0.96. It is now mandatory to use this beta version as the 0.95.x series is about to expire on November 26th.02:28
SevenIsPrimeHi everybody02:28
thoreauputica lot of users are working on having a hangover tomorrow, judging by what's happening here today ;-)02:28
jbueleranyone help?02:28
BrainDeadKKlol02:28
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viscountrikai, in that case im upgrading your coal to dung, have fun with that BBQ02:28
Seveasjbueler, sudo apt-get install dvd+rw-tools02:28
rikaiviscount, ah, gottal loved steamed dung ;;<02:29
viscounthaha ;p02:29
SevenIsPrimeCan anyone help a Debian-user to convert to Kubuntu? I am fed up with ancient software from "stable" and frequent dependency hell in "testing" or "unstable".02:29
viscountdung is still a primare fuel source to many millions of people on earth02:29
rikaiubuntu's gtk-gnutela wont work any more?02:30
jbuelerSeveas: growisofs comes with that package?02:30
Seveasjbueler, yes02:30
BrainDeadKKSevenIsPrime: we can try to help02:30
viscountSeveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=602913#post60291302:30
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jbuelerSeveas: ok thanks...02:30
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apricothello02:31
HeartBTDapper users?02:31
HeartBThi02:31
BrainDeadKKhi :) wb hea02:31
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BrainDeadKKHeartBT:02:31
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: Thanks. I am a bit reluctant to change because there are so many debian packages out there. Can I use debian packages in Kubuntu or only "Kubuntu-way-of-debian" packages?02:31
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apricotplease, why does a long time for configuring network devices on startup?02:31
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SeveasSevenIsPrime, (K)Ubuntu have all that's in Debian02:32
HeartBTHey, off work now.02:32
SevenIsPrimeapricot: Perhaps because you are not connected to a network?02:32
BrainDeadKKSevenIsPrime: it's recomended to use th (k)ubuntu packages02:32
BrainDeadKKbut you can use debians if you have to02:32
apricot?02:32
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: Ok. So "aptitude" or "apt-get" are still available and used for Kubuntu?02:32
Inf3ctedFxso glick  do u recomend gtk-gnutella instead limewire?02:32
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: Just a different repository is used?02:32
Ubunti_Kiwhat's the URL that guides ubuntu ?02:32
vividisnt kubuntu ubuntu with kde instead of gnome?02:32
tomwhere can I find grub-set-default in ubuntu ? (dapper)02:32
BrainDeadKKSevenIsPrime: yes to both02:32
BrainDeadKKvivid: yes02:32
HeartBTBrainDeadKK, you run dapper,  you have networkmanager on there?02:33
Ubunti_Kivivid, yes02:33
SevenIsPrimeapricot: There are some nasty timeouts if you are not connected to a network or wait for DHCP to not find a server02:33
glickInf3ctedFx, hell yes02:33
vividso why would they use something other than apt-get..02:33
johndarkhorseBrainDeadKK: not so. debian binaries can mungle the machine02:33
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: Cool.02:33
BrainDeadKKHeartBT: yeh02:33
Inf3ctedFxlook these 2 ...02:33
Inf3ctedFx GTK1_gtk-gnutella_0.96.0-0_i386.deb   1969168  951  i386  .deb02:33
Inf3ctedFx  GTK2_gtk-gnutella_0.96.0-0_i386.deb 2014864 1827 i386 .deb02:33
apricotok, how to disable02:33
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: Which version should I try, the dapper beta or the ... errm .. .breezy stable?02:33
HeartBTBrainDeadKK, how's it working?  snags, bugs, blah, blah.02:33
johndarkhorseBrainDeadKK: better to use debian source and build it (or have apt build it)02:33
Ubunti_KiStrange that when I boot my Laptop it reads Ubuntu....not kubuntu.....but it reads Kubuntu in my other laptop.02:33
Inf3ctedFxwhich one?02:33
BrainDeadKKjohndarkhorse: wasnt the question 'but different repositories'?02:33
linkdInf3ctedFx: yea but those are debian packages, may not work on ubuntu at all :P02:34
BrainDeadKKHeartBT: don't use it. i do my network config by hand02:34
linkdInf3ctedFx: im just about to install gtk1 anyway ill let u know how it goes if u like02:34
apricotit tells me configuring network devices02:34
apricotwhat is it doing?02:34
glickInf3ctedFx, the latest version02:34
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SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: If I understand right, the "infrastructure" of Kubuntu is the same as debians. You just use a different installer and different packages. Correct?02:34
HeartBTBrainDeadKK, your hardcore man.  just too hardcore.02:34
Inf3ctedFxok linkd  r u going to install deb package?02:34
linkdmeh yea that worked fine. not as good looking as the preversion ubuntu package but it works02:34
linkdthats correct Inf3ctedFx02:35
Inf3ctedFxglick:  those r the latest version02:35
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linkd*previous02:35
BrainDeadKKSevenIsPrime: basicly yes. but with sudo (main difference)02:35
glickInf3ctedFx, no the latest ubuntu versions are not the latest version02:35
BrainDeadKKHeartBT: no, it's just eaier over ssh ;)02:35
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glickthe latest ubuntu version is infact expired02:35
glickand wont work anymore02:35
Toma-glick: works fine here02:35
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: So any user can screw up the system by automatically sudoing for apt-get???02:35
Inf3ctedFxno glick . i'm going to donwload it from sourceforge02:35
glickToma-, what version02:35
linkdglick: he was working about the debian packages the gtk-gnutella team offer on sourceforge02:36
linkd*talking02:36
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: I'd rather just have root to be able to install software etc.02:36
glickah02:36
glickyah02:36
glickthe debian one has a later one02:36
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: the infrastructure of kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu are the same. they are based on debian "source" not debian binaries02:36
BrainDeadKKSevenIsPrime: your first user is like root02:36
Toma-0.95.402:36
HeartBTBrainDeadKK, sure, Hey real quick, if your running cd2, tell me what version NM you have there?02:36
BrainDeadKKjust not as powerfull02:36
Inf3ctedFxToma-:  did u install the deb package?02:36
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SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: Thanks for the info :02:36
glickToma-, the website says the the .95.x are expireing and it will be manditory to upgrade02:36
Toma-nope02:36
johndarkhorseBrainDeadKK: sudo is just as 'powerful' as a root account02:36
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BrainDeadKKHeartBT: sure02:36
jendaAnyone have experience with telnet?02:36
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: ARGH! Thats like windoze!02:36
linkdjenda: what do u need to know?02:37
SevenIsPrimeBrainDeadKK: So I have to add a second user and force him to be non-root??02:37
BrainDeadKKarh. what hvae i done now?02:37
MickMcMackxD!02:37
BrainDeadKKHeartBT: i just upgrade, i don't use the cds02:37
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: any additional users will not have sudo ability02:37
Inf3ctedFxso.. Toma-  is working the one comes with ubuntu?02:37
apricotwhat about modem connections, do i need to buy driver for my modem02:37
BrainDeadKKi have Gnome 2.13.302:37
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apricotwhat about modem connections, do i need to buy driver for my modem02:37
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: So if I call the first user "root" all is well?02:37
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johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: i wouldn't02:38
apricotrealy?02:38
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Toma-Inf3ctedFx: correct-a-mundo.02:38
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HeartBTBrainDeadKK, so you're running cvs, basically, not going to help me.  Thanks, bbiab.02:38
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: I just want root to be root. Nobody else.02:38
BrainDeadKKHeartBT: no, I'm not runnign cvs. I'm running dapper02:38
jendalinkd: I cannot access my router's (zyxel prestige 650R-33) web configurator (anymore - It used to work). So I'm trying to either enable it again, or at least find out my PC's IP address and set up a port forward (44990) to it.02:38
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: use a user name that is not "root" cuz *buntu doesnt work well with 'root' as a username02:38
Inf3ctedFxwww.notpron.com <-- check this out.. whoevee play this one let me know, I'm stock on lvl 20  :(02:38
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: Sounds like apples approach ...02:38
MickMcMackI hate that site.02:38
MickMcMackSo much.02:39
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: and it works fine.02:39
Inf3ctedFxlol MickMcMack  why?02:39
MickMcMackFrustration++.02:39
zokais it possible to put in the file browser toolbar custom tools, I would like to put terminal shortcut there and when click to open terminal with that working directory02:39
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: So I have to keep in mind not to work as "root" or my first user, instead of just root. Strange concept.02:39
Inf3ctedFxwell linkd works?02:39
MickMcMackzoka, Konqueror already has that.02:39
jendaSevenIsPrime: You can enable the root account from a normal user's account. If you want, you can then remove the normal user... bt not recommended, I guess :)02:39
zokaI use ubuntu02:39
linkdjenda: eeek. routers are normally located about 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1 for most home routers.02:39
zokaand gnome02:39
linkdjenda: have u tried using those IPs in a browser?02:40
Inf3ctedFx192.168.1.102:40
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: i'm not privy to the start of your line of chat, what is the matter with your prime user?02:40
MickMcMackDoes Konqueror not work with GNOME? :s02:40
jendalinkd: I know the IP - 192.168.1.1 and I can connect to it useing telnet, but not firefox.02:40
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SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: Hmm ... I just don't see any reason for not calling it "root"02:40
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, your first user is NOT root.02:40
zokazoran@ubuntuzoran:~$ konqueror02:41
zokabash: konqueror: command not found02:41
johndarkhorseMickMcMack: anything you can d/l from the repos will work anywhere on *buntu02:41
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: That's why I "complain".02:41
johndarkhorsezoka: have you installed konqueror?02:41
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, your first user, as it were, is the only user who has the ability to su to root.02:41
glickworks like a charm again02:41
linkdhmm, jenda, the only reason i could think of that happening if the routers http daemon had a problem and died, you could try restarting the router by turning off the power and see if that works, other than that, "telnet 192.168.1.1" then type in ur user/pass02:41
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: sudo gives you the same powers as a root account02:41
Toma-glick: new gtk-gnuetlla?02:41
Inf3ctedFxglick:  what the gtk-gnutella?02:41
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: I understand. So ... why on earth not stick with the "root" as first user concept and leave it as it was?02:41
MickMcMackjohndarkhorse, some Window Managers don't like some DE programs.02:41
glickToma-, Inf3ctedFx  yeah02:41
Inf3ctedFxwhich one the one from ubuntu or the deb package02:42
Toma-rad. im downloading now, just for the hell of it :D02:42
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: I know and I think it opens a can of worms security wise to give that sudo power to the user.02:42
jendalinkd: I can get through with telnet. But I don't know how to set up port forwarding in there, nor look at the IP table.02:42
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freak4pchey02:42
glickInf3ctedFx, the maintainer walked me through downloading the source from debian mirrors and making a ubuntu package02:42
freak4pcHow are everyone? :-)02:42
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: All I am wondering is why you need to have that "sudo" power as a user. Be you "first" user or anybody else that is non-root.02:42
Toma-hmmmm with the deb control_file?02:42
Inf3ctedFxshow me the website so I can do it glick02:43
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jendaSevenIsPrime: so that you don't need to switch users all the time02:43
freak4pcDoes anybody know where i can get an Assembly Compiler and IDE?02:43
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, ubuntu is aimed at desktops. Where the first user WANTS to be able to use root without having to actually switch users.02:43
linkdjenda: i think u might want to consult ur routers manual for info on that, im not sure how to do that.02:43
SevenIsPrimejenda: Pardon me, but I work months on a reguar account without a need to switch accounts.02:43
glickInf3ctedFx, there is no website i chatted with the maintainer02:43
glickif you want i can send you the .deb i just built02:44
Inf3ctedFxI dont get it glick  sorry I'm kind of new on linux02:44
SevenIsPrimejenda: After a system is set up, you don't need root access unless you want to fiddle with the configuration or add/remove software.02:44
glicki dont really know what i did02:44
freak4pcanyone?02:44
Inf3ctedFxok glick  will b good02:44
Inf3ctedFxcan u send me that?02:44
glickyou want it?02:44
glickyeah sure02:44
jendalinkd: Ah well... not much in there. Unless I found a better online manual... thanks anyway02:44
linkdglick: did it look as good as the previous version? or does it look like the old gtk?02:44
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, on a Desktop, you want to add/remove software almost all the time.02:44
MickMcMack:s02:44
freak4pcDoes anybody know where i can get an Assembly Compiler and IDE?02:44
linkdjenda: sorry i couldnt help more :(02:44
glicklinkd, it looks the same except it works well02:44
MickMcMackfreak4pc, give me a sex.02:44
MickMcMack*sec02:44
MickMcMack**sec02:45
freak4pck , thank u02:45
freak4pcxD02:45
linkdglick: ill have a copy of the .deb then if ur offering :P02:45
MickMcMackBad Mick. :(02:45
Toma-glick: did you comple it with --with-gtk2 ?02:45
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: Nope, I don't. And I sure as hell don't want all the other users in a larger installation to do that. They should *use* the system *I* install.02:45
glickToma-, no02:45
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, the other users can't.02:45
Toma-oic.02:45
glickInf3ctedFx, accept it02:45
Inf3ctedFx?? what it doesnt show me any dcc glick02:45
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: So they can't work on Kubuntu then, according to Kubuntu-Logic that you need "root" privileges to use a desktop.02:46
glickInf3ctedFx, msg me your email and ill just send it to you as an attachment02:46
SevenIsPrime*sigh*02:46
freak4pcrofl... :)02:46
Toma-oh sweet. the deb file from the homepage has gtk2 enabled.... works fine...02:46
MickMcMackfreak4pc, http://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/02:46
SevenIsPrimeI think my quest for a linux distro continues ...02:46
Toma-SevenIsPrime: i think youre missing the point...02:47
freak4pcMickMcMack, its only a compiler no? ... im looking for an IDE as well...02:47
SevenIsPrimeToma-: Ok, tell me then :)02:47
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johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same thing, they both use sudo, or kdesu or gksudo02:47
MickMcMackAh, freak4pc sorry, I don't know about that. :(02:47
freak4pcahh bummer , anyone else maybe?02:47
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freak4pcanyone knows where can i get a linux version of Bloodshed Dev-C++ ? ... and what do you think about gDeveloper?02:48
freak4pckDeveloper i mean ...02:48
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: yeah. I have read the "history" of Kubuntu and edubuntu and Ubuntu. I still don't see the use for a root user that is not root. If you want to be root, become root. If you want to have regular users, pick your account.02:48
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Toma-ok, Ubuntu is for the desktop user that (unknowingly), really doesnt need the entire root privliges. its only really required for installing new packages, updating and some other tedious commands. By denying a root terminal by default, it protects the user from him/herself, from running commands that could damage, or making files that have only root permisssions in the users dir02:49
MickMcMackfreak4pc, http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/assemblers.shtml02:49
Toma-as to my knowledge anyway02:49
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: if you want to be root, do it. the ubuntu dev team thought long and hard to come up with the 'sudo' model and it works fine02:49
Inf3ctedFxglick:  did u get my email?02:49
MickMcMackfreak4pc, look at the TMA Assmebler.02:49
freak4pcok ill see, thanks02:49
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: The next thing they are gonna introduce then is "automatic installation of everything with full root privileges via email", so Linux finally can have all the worms, viruses and spyware Windows users enjoy so much.02:49
freak4pcLast question , anyone knows a good sound-editing program?02:49
nukej #constanta02:49
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: audacity02:49
glickInf3ctedFx, yeah02:49
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glickInf3ctedFx, its sent02:49
Inf3ctedFxok thx glick let me check02:50
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, its good? thanks...02:50
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, are you just here to Troll? And on Christmas too? :(02:50
Toma-SevenIsPrime: sigh. if youre going to troll, plz dont make me type meanings of things.02:50
apricothow to disable clock syncronising on the startup?02:50
dsl361can anyone point me a the min spec's for ubuntu/edbuntu ? im thinking of setting it up for my kid and i have a spare pc, but i want to know what it needs...02:50
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: No, sorry.02:50
dukebodyI have a problem with Grip audio extractor could anybody help me? it says (grip:10280): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_ text()02:50
johndarkhorseMickMcMack: perhaps following the other fine examples?02:50
dukebody(grip:10280): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_hide: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget )' failed02:50
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: Merry Christmas by the way :)02:50
freak4pcits possible to compile DC on ubuntu right?02:50
Toma-apricot: "sudo update-rc.d remove ntpdate"02:50
apricotyeah, merry christmas everyone02:50
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: dc clients are available02:50
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: My reason for showing up is that my Debian "testing" has removed a bunch of software I need, like k3b.02:50
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MickMcMackjohndarkhorse, it's a sad, sad world indeedly.02:51
Inf3ctedFxquestion glick  is this the same package offer on sourceforge?02:51
SevenIsPrimeMickMcMack: I was looking for a "better" Debian.02:51
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, thank you again man... Happy XMAS EVERYONE , And happy HANNUKA FROM ISRAEL ;)02:51
glickInf3ctedFx, i dont know i just did what the maintainer told me to do02:51
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MickMcMackfreak4pc, you're from Israel?02:51
MickMcMackWhere abouts?02:51
SevenIsPrimeToma-: I am not trolling, I am just trying to understand why you want a "sudo" concept.02:51
glickInf3ctedFx, check the versions02:51
glickInf3ctedFx, the deb i sent you is THE latest one02:51
freak4pcMickMcMack, yes is am ... :)02:51
glickthats all i know02:51
MickMcMackfreak4pc, my parents used to live in Rammat Gan. ^^02:51
Toma-SevenIsPrime: to ensure there is no PEBKAC!02:52
Inf3ctedFxlook thise website glick --> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4467  and tell me if is the same one02:52
SevenIsPrimeToma-: What's PEBKAC?02:52
freak4pcMickMcMack, oh nice... its close to the center... i live in the south - Ashkelo.02:52
linkdglick: would u be able to mail me a copy? :(02:52
freak4pc*Ashkelon02:52
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MickMcMackfreak4pc, nice, and happy Hanukkah to you too. :)02:52
glicklinkd, whats ytour email02:52
freak4pcthank you :)02:52
Toma-"problem Exists between keyboard and computer" ie, you02:52
Toma-i think02:52
glickInf3ctedFx, yah looks like it02:52
Toma-ahhhhh02:52
linkdglick: its in a PM to u02:52
Toma-"problem Exists between keyboard and chair" ie, you02:53
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Toma-sorry :D02:53
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freak4pcwell im going to get rid of win  xp sp2 and try out the new Breezy Badger 64Bit... :-)02:53
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Inf3ctedFxbut there is 2 of them glick a GTK1 and GTK2 whats the diference>?02:53
apricotfile does not exist02:53
MickMcMackOoh, Toma-, I like that acronym, I am going to steal it now. :O02:53
Toma-Inf3ctedFx: gtk2 is nicer02:53
linkdInf3ctedFx: the version of GTK.02:53
apricotdo i need to be root?02:53
SevenIsPrimeToma-: Hmm ... I always thought the strict separation of "users" and "root" was one of the more brilliant ways to ensure "PEBKAC" has minimum impact.02:53
johndarkhorseapricot: you never need to be 'root'02:53
Toma-SevenIsPrime: exactly.02:53
Toma-user never becomes root in ubuntu02:53
Inf3ctedFxlinkd:  if I decide to download one of those which one is good for ubuntu?02:53
freak4pccya guyz , ill be back after installation ;)02:53
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: and that is the reason that "sudo" exists02:54
linkdInf3ctedFx: id use the copy glick sent u over those.02:54
Inf3ctedFxToma-:  what about sudo -s?02:54
SevenIsPrimeToma-: So why is "give root power to the user" a way to prevent "PEBKAC"?02:54
apricoti cannot install some apps if i am not root. help, please!02:54
johndarkhorseInf3ctedFx: sudo -i is better02:54
glicksent linkd02:54
Inf3ctedFxok02:54
linkdInf3ctedFx: if i understand him, its just the gtk2 one of those but made up to be compatible with ubuntu02:54
linkdglick: thx02:54
johndarkhorseSevenIsPrime: join #ubuntu-offtopic please to continue this thread02:54
Toma-SevenIsPrime: its not root power dood.02:54
dukebodyi have problems with grip, the cd ripper, it gives me: i have a problem with grip, the cd audio ripper, It gives me: (grip:10280): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_ tex02:54
SevenIsPrimejohndarkhorse: Ok, so how does it work then. User "bla" (first user on Kubuntu) wants to launch "aptitude". What happens?02:54
glicknp linkd02:54
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Toma-SevenIsPrime: its like, sudo = 'asking root if it can do this special command'02:55
Toma-:/02:55
johndarkhorseToma-: SevenIsPrime #ubuntu-offtopic please02:55
MickMcMackSevenIsPrime, I think you should actually see sudo in action before commenting.02:55
apricotcan user have all the powers as root, and how please, tell me again!!!02:55
Toma-sorry, i dont care anymore02:55
MickMcMackEep, sorry. :<02:55
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bolrodapricot: you dont want all the powers root has02:55
Inf3ctedFxThc glick  is working fine02:55
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apricotak, i dont, is it possible?02:56
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bolroderh02:56
bolrodprobably02:56
bolrodroot is a user02:56
Toma-Blue-Omega: thats an interesting adress u have there :D02:56
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garnetthi02:56
glickwelcome Inf3ctedFx02:56
apricotok02:56
garnetthi02:56
bolrodyou could try renaming root I guess02:56
garnetthello glick02:57
apricotok02:57
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glickhi garnett02:57
voidfxI'm getting xsession errors when trying to log in as my normal user02:57
garnetthow old are u02:57
HeartBTwhat is all the concern over root?  95% of the time you don't need it, and it's a nice thing to keep locked up and out of harms way.02:58
cmatheson voidfx what are they?02:58
glickgarnett, why?02:58
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apricotwe want the root!02:58
Seveasvoidfx, paste the errors on the pastbin02:58
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voidfxcmatheson should I maybe paste the error log somewhere?02:58
apricotgive as the root02:58
garnettwhat r u talkn about glck02:58
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apricot!02:58
Seveasapricot, ...02:58
ubotuapricot: No idea02:58
niffei have too some errors...02:58
cmathesonyes.. see the pasetebin in /topic02:58
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apricotgive people the root! :)02:59
bolrodfor what?02:59
jendavoidfx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:59
Seveasapricot, get some ritalin oslt and don't be a nuisance...02:59
apricotpower to the people.02:59
glicki want the fifa 2006 soundtrack02:59
apricotok, i'll stop02:59
bolrodyes....02:59
bolrodyou'll break it when you're root02:59
Seveasglick, you won't get it in here..02:59
jendaapricot: you should... the ops are strict here02:59
garnettwhere is the download linux game02:59
voidfxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/615502:59
Toma-hey Seveas, sorry bout the question before. didnt know u had mirrors03:00
jendagarnett: what?03:00
glickno i wont Seveas but i needed gtk-gnutella working to get it :)03:00
niffevoidfx: im having exatct same error03:00
niffei bypass it trought03:00
Seveasvoidfx, ifconfig -a03:00
Seveasis lo up?03:00
Seveasif not: ifup lo03:00
Seveasand put /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin03:00
apricotok, my sudo update-rc.d remove ntpdate does not work, says file does not exist, did i wrote it good?!03:01
ompaulj-linux, how did you get on?03:01
Seveasapricot,03:01
Seveasno03:01
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Seveasupdate-rc.d -f ntpdate remove03:01
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voidfxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/615603:01
apricotok, ow is good03:02
niffeSeveas: im having same proplem, ifup lo says networks already configurated03:02
apricotnow03:02
niffeconfigured03:02
j-linuxompaul:  great... thanks.  It works now.03:02
ompaulj-linux, :-)03:02
Seveasvoidfx, did you play with a firewall?03:02
j-linuxompaul:  Still not a dual boot, but I know it is possible now.03:02
voidfxSeveas not to the best of my knowledge, but I'm still very much the newb.03:03
apricottnx, it is all for now, bye03:03
Seveasvoidfx, very weird then03:03
ompaulj-linux, well if you wanted to do that the time to install that other thing is now :-) before you get too much installed and end up giving yourself problems03:03
Seveasvoidfx, ls -al ~ (as you, not as root) and output on the pastebin03:03
j-linuxI'm going to try partitioning the drive first, then installing Windows to just the partition (don't know if the recovery disks will allow it).  If it takes too much time I'll buy another hard drive (40GB) and put it in the Ultrabay... supposedly you can boot from a HD in the U;trabay03:03
voidfxSeveas I did download a bunch of stuff from the repository...03:03
ompaulj-linux, but know this first, I have spent 10 years without that company providing my home operating system03:04
voidfxseveas it won't let me log in, I get that error and then it bounces me back to login screen03:04
j-linuxompaul: I was going to delete the Ubuntu and start from scratch.. with Windows installed first.03:04
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j-linuxThis is my work computer.03:04
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j-linuxactually, my only computer :S03:04
ompaulj-linux, what kind of work do you do03:04
mahangui used kde once or twice and now my bootup splash says kubuntu03:04
Seveasvoidfx, then do it in a terminal via <alt><f1>03:04
j-linuxweb design and marketing03:04
mahanguhow can i change this back03:04
Seveasvoidfx, in the terminal: wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/python/pastebin && ls -al ~ | python pastebin03:05
ompaulj-linux, so you can do all that on ubuntu :) you just need to find out what applications work for you to do the same job as in that other platform03:05
ompaulj-linux, you can even do the DB stuff on the box and show people what it would look like as they interacted with the interweb03:06
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voidfxseveas I'm logged in as root via failsafe, is that ok?03:06
Seveasvoidfx, in that case:03:06
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voidfx/home/username?03:06
ompaulmahangu, have you gdm installed?03:06
Seveasvoidfx, in the terminal: wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/python/pastebin && ls -al /home/your_normal_username | python pastebin03:06
j-linuxYeah... I use Quanta.. kate, emacs, whatever.  GIMP... although I need access to Windows.  Also do some VBA, etc.03:06
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dukebodyhow can i find gtk-config in my filesystems? i got an error while ./configurin a program called ripperX03:07
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j-linuxOOo is not 100% compatible and it has caused problems with some spreadsheets when saving to xls and transferring back to windows.03:07
penguin42dukebody: Chances are that you don't have the gtk dev stuff03:07
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Toma-j-linux: tried looking for your windows apps in here? http://appdb.winehq.org/03:08
dukebodywhat is the package name, penguin42 ?03:08
j-linuxUsually ok though.. but sometimes prefer mission-critical stuff without the risk.03:08
blaamanndukebody: use apt-file03:08
voidfxseveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/615703:08
voidfxseveas, it suffered an error of some sort.03:08
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Seveasyeah03:08
Seveasan error in my brain03:08
Evil_WhisperHi Guys03:08
penguin42dukebody: I'm thinking perhaps libgtk2.0-dev03:08
Seveasvoidfx, in the terminal: wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && ls -al /home/your_normal_username | python pastebin03:08
Evil_WhisperWhen I open anything with wine even just winecfg it fills up my swap and slows everything down anyone know a fix or have had the same issue?03:09
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, best fix is - don't use wine >.>03:09
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dukebodypenguin42, i looked into my installed packages and i already have libgtk2.0-dev installed.03:10
penguin42dukebody: Hmm OK - what error is it you get exactly?03:10
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blaamanndukebody: try 'locate gtk-config'03:10
voidfxseveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/615803:10
Seveasyup, I see it already03:11
penguin42blaamann: Interesting my machine doesn''t have that and neither does an apt-file search03:11
j-linuxompaul: looks like Wine is improving.  Will probably get Crossover Office soon.03:11
Seveasyou have run some (probably) KDE apps as root in a gnome environment03:11
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ompaulj-linux, it is great :)03:11
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dukebodyThe gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found03:11
dukebody ..... blabla ... is gtk-config in path?03:11
voidfxseveas, yeah, smb4k probably03:11
Seveasj-linux, rm -f /hpme/neil/.ICEauthority03:11
nmsaI can not have the second lan configured properly, /etc/interfaces is the place for lan cards config?03:11
ompaulj-linux, but native is better03:12
Seveasvoidfx(03:12
Seveasvoidfx*03:12
cmathesondukebody: you need to install the gtk development librarires03:12
j-linuxSeveas: what is that?03:12
cmathesonnmsa: yes03:12
Seveasj-linux, something that was meant for voidfx :)03:12
j-linuxoh03:12
cmathesonnmsa : /etc/network/interfaces03:12
dukebodyblaamann, i used locate gtk-config and it returned /home/dukebody/.icons/gartoon/scalable/stock/gtk-configure.svg. I think this is not i'm lookin for03:12
voidfxseveas, I should rm -f /home/neil/.ICEauthority?03:13
ompaulj-linux, if you ever get a situation where the machine does not let you in and proclaims your session was less than 10 seconds then that command works :)03:13
Seveasvoidfx, yes03:13
j-linuxompaul: I would prefer to get rid of Windows... maybe if I can fix my other laptop I will just put windows on that one only.  Keep this new one Linux-only.03:13
Seveasvoidfx, and just to be sure: clean out /tmp03:13
nmsacmatheson: ok, can I paste ou somewhere mz config ... is not comming up with ifup, not sure why  ...03:13
ompaulj-linux, now your thinking :)03:13
Evil_Whisperbrb nvidia drivers03:13
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cmathesonnmsa: sure, include the error you get when you run ifup too03:13
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Toma-dukebody: gtk-config comes with gtk-dev03:13
voidfxseveas, just cd /tmp and rm *?03:13
dukebodycmatheson, i already have installed libgtk2.0-dev, ripperX says: checking for GTK - version >= 1.1.13... no03:14
j-linuxThe fonts are really small on this new computer 1400x1025 or something... There must be a way to increase font size...03:14
Seveasvoidfx, yeah03:14
cmathesondukebody: it doesn't want gtk2 it wants gtk1.203:14
voidfxseveas, ok, now what if I want to use smb4k again?03:14
cmathesonj-linux: if you run gnome you could change the stuff in gnome-control-panel03:14
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dukebodycmatheson, it wants higher or equal than 1.1.1303:14
j-linuxcmatheson: XFCE...03:14
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troouble-boothi anyone who can help me to install grub for windows03:15
Seveasvoidfx, use gksudo or sudo -i03:15
dukebodyToma-, how can i get gtk-dev package?03:15
Seveasnot plain sudo03:15
cmathesondukebody: if you want it to work, do what i said03:15
Toma-dukebody: i think im wrong :/03:15
voidfxseveas, what's the difference?03:15
troouble-boothttp://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/grub4dos/WINGRB0206.EXE i installed this03:15
j-linuxStill have a lot to configure: 3D accelleration... dual boot, font size... but at least it is on the computer....03:15
cmathesonj-linux: hmm, sorry, i'm not so familiar w/ xfce... i would assume their control panel would have some sort of option though03:15
Seveasvoidfx, that you can login afterwards :)03:15
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Seveasvoidfx, gui programs should *always* be started via gksudo instead of sudo03:16
Seveasor kdesu if you use kde03:16
j-linuxcmatheson: thanks... I didn't see it before... just fixed it. :)03:16
cmathesonj-linux: np03:16
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Inf3ctedFxok I'm leaving, thx glick , linkd  and Toma-   I'll c u guys later03:16
troouble-booti installed ubuntu now i installed windowsxp and the ubuntu grub loader vanished03:16
Toma-k.03:16
dukebodycmatheson, you were right03:17
voidfxseveas, what is gksudo?03:17
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troouble-booti downlaoed wingrub will it work03:17
penguin42dukebody: try an apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev03:17
glicklater Inf3ctedFx03:17
j-linux4:14am here... must get some sleep...03:17
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Seveasvoidfx, the thing that all menu entries that require you to type your pw use03:17
niffeSeveas: thx, that one helped for me.03:17
topdeckI received a Creative Zen Sleek for christmas, I tried to install and use gnomad2, but it is not detecting the player when it starts up03:17
Seveasgraphical sudo03:17
dukebodypenguin42, it worked, as cmatheson said, great thanks!03:17
j-linuxompaul: thanks again... took two days to get this far... :S03:17
penguin42cmatheson: So did gtk-config disappear in gtk2 ?03:17
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troouble-bootwhy nobody can help me03:17
SweetestSavageMerry Christmas everybody =)03:17
cmathesondukebody: np03:18
ompaulj-linux, some times it takes a little help03:18
voidfxseveas, ah...ok...so I just replace sudo with gksudo, and I should be ok, right?03:18
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ompaulj-linux, it took you about 2 hours all in by the time you got to me :)03:18
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Seveasvoidfx, yup03:18
ompaulj-linux, and tjhat is well too much time03:18
troouble-bootwhy nobody can help me03:18
voidfxseveas, thanks a lot for your help03:18
cmathesonpenguin42: gtk2 and gtk1.x are completely different beasts... so the test scripts just won't work between the two (they *shouldn't* work between the two), i think they did get rid of gtk-confgi though (there maybe be a gtk-config2.0?)03:18
dukebodyAnother question: why can i change root password while logged in as a admin-user?03:19
johndarkhorsedukebody: there is no active root account in ubuntu03:19
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johndarkhorseubotu tell dukebody about root03:19
penguin42cmatheson: Still, nice way to tell which version something is complaining about03:19
voidfxubotu tell voidfx abot root03:19
voidfxubotu tell voidfx about root03:19
j-linuxompaul:  Two hours is ok to fix a problem... Actually, from breakdown of my Toshiba it has taken me over 3 weeks to get this running.  Will be about a month by the time everything is reinstalled.03:19
cmathesonpenguin42: yeah03:20
ompaulj-linux, well I only became aware of it today :)03:20
j-linuxMost of that time was waiting for the computer to be shipped... :S03:20
topdeckI received a Creative Zen Sleek for christmas, I tried to install and use gnomad2, but it is not detecting the player when it starts up, my Ubuntu installation has always had problems detecting USB devices03:20
dukebodythen johndarkhorse , who can change root password in ubuntu? all users? i have important files belonging to root account!03:21
j-linuxThey ship it from Hong Kong to Ontario... sits for a week in Ontario... THEN they do the 2-day shipping...03:21
troouble-booti installed ubuntu now i installed windowsxp and the ubuntu grub loader vanished03:21
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johndarkhorsedukebody: read the wiki page please that ubotu sent you the link for03:21
Seveasdukebody, only root can change the root password03:21
cmathesondukebody: only users in the admin group are able to change your root password03:21
j-linuxwell... off to bed... goodnight and merry christmas/holidays....03:21
penguin42topdeck: Go to the System->Administration menu and select device manager and see if the device is shown somewhere down the list - if it is then you know at least the USB side of stuff is working03:22
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paal!ask apt-get03:23
ubotuNot a clue, paal03:23
paal!ask deb03:23
troouble-booti installed ubuntu now i installed windowsxp and the ubuntu grub loader vanished03:23
ubotupaal: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:23
Ubunti_Kiis ubuntuguide.org any good for ubuntu 5.10? its a guide for just 5.0403:23
topdeckI don't have that option, I do however have xffstab which lists devices in fstab, it is not listed in there03:23
paalhmm03:23
Seveas!tell paal about yourself03:23
deFrysk Ubunti_Ki ubuntuguide is something to avoid for ever03:24
cmathesonSeveas: can a person using sudo not change the password after the root accout has been enabled? (e.g. wil it prompt him to enter the current root-password or something?)--i haven't played around w/ enabling the root account03:24
paalwhats the command to install .deb packages?03:24
ilba7rwhere can i put my alias command so it will be automatically loaded as i log in03:24
cmathesonpaal: dpkg03:24
deFryskpaal, sudo dpkg -i03:24
ilba7rshould it be in .bashrc and how about if i want it loaded for all users?03:24
Seveascmatheson, with sudo you effectively become root and thus can change the root password03:25
deFryskpaal make sure its an ubuntu.beb03:25
deFryskdeb*03:25
cmathesonSeveas: ok that's what i was thinking03:25
johndarkhorseUbunti_Ki: ubuntuguide will break your box, use help.ubuntu.com03:25
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Ubunti_KideFrysk, Is there any site for 5.10?03:25
Seveascmatheson, you can restrict sudo to only allow certain commands though :)03:25
johndarkhorseUbunti_Ki: see above03:25
jendaWhat's the best game I can apt-get and play for half an hour?03:25
Ubunti_Kiok thanks johndarkhorse03:25
cmathesonSeveas: yeah, that's pretty rad... i had no idea how flexible sudo was until i started using ubuntu03:26
deFryskUbunti_Ki, the homebutton on your firefox should take you to your help03:26
cmathesonjenda: i like circuslinux... don't know if i'd play for half an hour or not03:26
SeveasdeFrysk, really? :)03:26
deFryskubuntulog, otherwise try http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html03:26
cmathesonjenda: you could check out happypenguin.org if you're interested in gaming (and don't forget nethack..)03:26
jendacmatheson: righty sudo apt...03:26
dukebodythanks you all for your help!!! goodbye03:26
jendacmatheson: lol... thanks. I'll leave nethack for now :)03:26
cmathesonhehe';03:27
deFryskUbunti_Ki, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation03:27
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Ubunti_KideFrysk, many thanks03:27
topdeckpenguin42, the only things listed as being there are my /, /home, cdrom, and Proc03:27
deFryskUbunti_Ki, many welcomes ;)03:27
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joserafaelhola, alguien habla espaol?03:28
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ilba7rwhere should i put the aliasses i use so it is automatically loaded for all users?03:28
Seveas!es03:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:28
deFrysk!es03:28
deFryskdang!03:28
Seveasilba7r, /etc/bash/bashrc03:28
deFrysktoo late03:28
Seveasilba7r, /etc/bash.bashrc03:28
Paradoxx!share03:28
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Paradoxx03:28
Paradoxx!filesharing03:28
ubotuParadoxx: I don't know, could you explain it?03:28
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ilba7rthanx seveas03:28
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Paradoxxany1 kno how i can share some folders i have on my machine with a Linux box?03:29
voidfxseveas, no good...03:29
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cmathesonParadoxx: nfs, (s)ftp, rsync03:29
Seveasvoidfx, ?03:29
johndarkhorseParadoxx: ask a question to the folks in here, please03:29
Paradoxx!samba03:29
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently03:29
windmill_laptopParadoxx, you linux box should be able to connect to your windows share03:30
SeveasParadoxx, system -> admin -> shared folders03:30
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topdeckWhenever I try to plug in a USB device, be it a Memory Stick or mp3 player, my Ubuntu won't detect it, Im running 5.10 on a Latitude D610 laptop03:30
Paradoxxi don't recall what i had set my samba password to, would it be the same as my user login/03:30
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voidfxseveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/615903:31
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cmathesontopdeck: when you plug it in and then run 'dmesg | tail' does it see that you plugged anything in?03:31
XmasmooParadoxx: Install Samba, add a Samba account bind to your user account03:31
penguin42topdeck: Hmm - the 'Device manager'  - not the disk manager; it should have a section on the left marked 'Devices' with 'Computer' at the top of it03:31
troouble-booti installed ubuntu now i installed windowsxp and the ubuntu grub loader vanished03:31
troouble-bootcan anyone help me or not03:31
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hyuhuihow to ues IRC03:31
voidfxseveas and when I did STARTX in debug modes, it also said it failed to start HAL, don't know if that is relevant03:32
cmathesontroouble-boot: always install windoze first... but anyway, if you boot off the live-cd and run grub-install that should work03:32
topdeckcmatheson, when I plugged it in and ran that file it definately detected it, now how would I mount it?03:32
troouble-booti have no live cd03:32
topdeckthat command i mean*03:32
troouble-bootis there any other way03:32
windmill_laptoptroouble-boot, your windows install wiped your boot loader03:32
cmathesontopdeck: do you have a /dev/sda1 now?03:32
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Seveasvoidfx, the HAL problem would explain this....03:32
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troouble-bootyes03:33
Evil_WhisperI'm back03:33
Seveasvoidfx, can you put your xorg log on the pastebin please03:33
troouble-boothow to get back my grub load03:33
cmathesontroouble-boot: you could probably do it off the install cd...03:33
topdeck/dev/sda1 is mounted already at /, sda2 is swap space, sda3 is /home i believe03:33
cmathesontroouble-boot: open up a shell and then run grub-install /dev/hda03:33
topdeckit mentions sdb alot in dmesg |  tail03:33
cmathesontopdeck: yeah that would be right03:33
voidfxseveas where would I find it?03:33
troouble-bootwhen i insert the ubuntu install cd it gives me option to install ubuntu03:34
windmill_laptoptroouble-boot, a live cd is the best way I can think of, download and burn one in windows then boot from it03:34
cmathesontopdeck: so run 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'03:34
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topdeckokay, thanks03:34
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troouble-booti dont have emtpy cds and the shops are closed untill tuesday03:34
cmathesontroouble-boot: did you read what i just said? use the install cd03:34
ParadoxxXmasmoo: how do i add a samba account?03:34
windmill_laptoplol, that's christmas for you03:34
troouble-booti installed osloader but it does not boot03:34
troouble-bootyes i insert the install cd what to do it starts to install ubuntu i dont want to install all over again03:35
sapoexit03:35
cmathesontroouble-boot: if you hit alt+f2 you can get a command-line, alternatively you could choose 'execute a shell' from the menu.  when you're there, run grub-install /dev/your_root_device03:36
mrabtiHow can i add Thrash icon in desktop03:36
voidfxseveas /var/log/Xorg.0.log?03:36
mrabtiPlease can any one help03:36
Evil_Whispermrabti: Open up the configuration editor and choos apps > nautilus and then desktop and check the icon03:36
Evil_Whispermrabti: *check show trash icon03:36
troouble-bootok first i insert the install cd, it starts to boot it says hit enter after hitting enter i press alt+f203:36
Evil_Whispermrabti: Configuration editor is under Applications -> System Tools03:37
mrabtiPlease can any one help03:37
mrabtiok thanks03:37
mrabtiits work03:38
topdeckmy mp3 player when i connect it dmesg | tail says "usb5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10" and thats it, how do i mount that one?03:38
penguin42Well that's good - for me most of those things mount automatically - try cat /proc/scsi/scsi   and see what it lists03:38
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Evil_Whispermrabti: Your Welcome03:38
nmsacmatheson: http://pastebin.com/47832203:39
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Evil_Whisperuh oh no more swap left :(03:40
XmasmooParadoxx: http://www.samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm03:40
Evil_WhisperI would have thought 1.5gb would be enough :(03:40
nmsaand 192.168.0.10 is a sec pc with a fixed IP configured03:40
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viscountany eclipse users? i need to find a way to embed a terminal into the lower frame, gnome-terminal preferably, but any shell will do03:41
Xmasmooviscount: I am an Eclipse user03:41
Xmasmooviscount: If I recall correctly, there was a plug-in which allowed it03:42
Xmasmooviscount: Why do you need that? It sounds like an ugly solution...03:42
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cmathesonnmsa: hmm, so is the problem just that when you do 'ifconfig -a' it doesn't bring up all devices?03:42
nmsacmatheson: all devices are up, connected the sec pc is connected to my box with a crossed cable and can not ping it.03:43
chmod775hey folks I need to install unrar03:44
chmod775where can I get it from03:44
nmsathe cable is ok cheked with other 2 pc03:44
cmathesonnmsa: sorry, didn't see the ping stuff at the bottom03:44
chmod775I tried downloading unrar-free03:44
deFrysk!info unrar-nonfree03:44
viscountXmasmoo, Im using eclipse for python development, pydev, but it doesnt seem to work entirely correctly with this version of eclipse, wont compile or run the programs03:44
voidfxchmod775 apt-get install unrar should do it03:44
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB03:44
Xmasmooviscount: me too03:44
viscountXmasmoo, does it work for you?03:44
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chmod775it's not working03:44
Xmasmooviscount: PyDev Linux support is not very well established03:44
chmod775apt-get install unrar03:44
chmod775?03:44
deFryskchmod775, unrar-nonfree is in section multiverse03:45
Xmasmooviscount: But you can use external scripts to do your work03:45
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Xmasmooviscount: it's a more long lasting solution03:45
chmod775how can I download it03:45
deFryskchmod775, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree03:45
cmathesonnmsa: can you have both networks on the same netmask like that? (i'm not an expert at networking)03:45
Evil_Whisperchmod775: Make sure you have universe and multiverse03:45
johndarkhorsechmod775: enable universe and multiverse repositories and install using apt "unrar-nonfree"03:45
viscountXmasmoo, what do you mean use external scripts from within eclipse?03:45
Evil_Whisperchmod775: *enabled03:45
Evil_Whisperhi john03:46
chmod775how can I enable multiverse03:46
chmod775?03:46
johndarkhorseubotu: tell chmod775 about repos03:46
nmsacmatheson: should be ... I have diff segments ...03:46
johndarkhorsechmod775: check your PMs03:46
Xmasmooviscount: eclipse has support for "external actions". You can bind shell scripts to a run button.03:46
deFrysk!tell chmod775 about repositories03:46
johndarkhorsegood day, Evil_Whisper03:46
nmsaI will trz now with no eth0 configured03:46
chmod775ok wait03:46
deFryskchmod775, you got 2 messages even ;p03:46
ispikedanyone messed with gtkpod? I can't get stuff to sync.03:46
chmod775ok03:47
Xmasmooviscount: the console output is redirected to Eclipse console window03:47
viscountXmasmoo, wow that sounds pretty cool03:47
chmod775I can do it in sourc.list03:47
chmod775also03:47
chmod775right ?03:47
chmod775the net is slow webpage not opening03:47
chmod775here03:47
deFryskchmod775, sources.list yes03:47
chmod775which line hsould I enable03:47
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johndarkhorseChousuke: correct, change all "universe" to "universe multiverse" and make sure the lines are not commented03:47
troouble-bootok i did insert cd install then i hit alt+f2 it opens console #grub-install /dev/hda   it shows bin/sh grub not found03:48
Xmasmooviscount: Check menu Run -> External Tools -> External Tools...03:48
chmod775univesrse to multiverse03:48
chmod775?03:48
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viscountXmasmoo, so If I were to write a script something like `#!/usr/bin/env python;python $(file)` it would execute the file im working on and show the output (i know that code wouldnt work, just an example)03:49
chmod775this is already enables03:49
chmod775deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:49
chmod775deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:49
deFryskchmod775, on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 is an example sources.list03:49
troouble-bootcan anyone help me to install grub03:49
cmathesontroouble-boot: it says 'grub not found' or 'grub-install not found'?03:49
Evil_Whisperchmod775: Not backbackports :P03:49
troouble-bootgrub not found03:49
chmod775huh?03:49
chmod775I can't understand03:49
deFryskEvil_Whisper, default backports on breezy are fine03:50
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Evil_Whisperchmod775: Look for the line without backports :P You can leave backports on its just unrar isn't in the backports I dont think03:50
johndarkhorsechmod775: no, you should have "universe multiverse" in place of "universe" in your present sources.list03:50
viscountXmasmoo, have you seen this? http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecant/03:50
troouble-bootwhat to do when i am on console #03:50
cmathesontroouble-boot: you have a typo then... grub-install is all one word03:51
troouble-bootto install grub03:51
deFryskchmod775, a comment is a "#"03:51
troouble-bootok i reboot insert the install ubuntu cd and pres alt+f2 then it opens console #03:51
chmod775folks this is my sources03:51
chmod775file03:51
chmod775http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616003:51
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troouble-boot#grub-install /dev/hda03:51
chmod775I have enabled verything in that03:51
troouble-bootbut it says grub not found03:51
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Xmasmoovisvount: yes...03:52
windmill_laptoptoo03:52
Xmasmooviscount: yes...03:52
Evil_Whisper!grub-install03:52
ubotuEvil_Whisper: I give up, what is it?03:52
deFryskchmod775, comment the first line03:52
cmathesontroouble-boot: you're typing either the command or the error wrong, but for now try doing the install up to the point that it wants you to partition discs and then STOP, and try running the grub-install thing again03:52
chmod775k03:52
deFryskchmod775, and add multiverse behind line 1903:53
chmod775deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted03:53
chmod775 this line commented03:53
deFryskand multiverse behind line 3503:53
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viscountXmasmoo, did you get the Ant plugin to work?03:53
chmod775u mean multiverse and then universe03:53
Xmasmooviscount: I haven't tried Ant plug-in03:53
deFryskchmod775, the rest is fine just add multiverse ass suggested03:54
deFryskchmod775, yes03:54
voidfxout of curiousity, aside from gedit, what text editors do you guys use? (particularly for programming)03:54
chmod775ok03:54
cmathesonvoidfx: vim03:54
deFryskdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse03:54
viscountXmasmoo, i got it to work, but was a little bit difficult, the dW article doesnt really explain well but a guy from gnome-love helped me out03:54
deFrysklike so :)03:54
chmod775doing a apt-get update03:54
deFryskcool03:54
troouble-bootso u mean i just insert cd install and skip all the options untill i get command install grub03:54
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chmod775installed unrar nonfree03:55
deFryskgood03:55
troouble-boot?03:55
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troouble-bootso u mean i just insert cd install and skip all the options untill i get command install grub03:55
deFryskchmod775, now you can unpack rar-files with a rightklick in nautilus03:55
chmod775k03:56
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glickcan i get an ipod nano working with ubuntu? If i decide to open it and keep it?03:56
chmod775it gave me an error03:56
chmod775I can't do it in nautilus03:56
deFryskchmod775, restart nautilus first03:57
topdeckHow do i mount scsi devices?03:57
chmod775k03:57
ispikedglick: I think it might work with gtkpod.03:57
ispikedglick: I just got a ipod video.03:57
Xmasmooviscount: PyDev is developed (by it's sole developer) in Windows. If it works in Linux you can be happy.03:57
glicknice ispiked :)03:57
glicki feel kina guilty keeping it for some reason03:58
glickits so expensive03:58
glickso trendy03:58
ispikedglick: me too, sort of.03:58
deFryskso much a piece of sh*t03:58
viscountXmasmoo, its so funny, i just asume everything is developed on and for linux these days03:58
ispikedviscount: you're living in a fantasy world, then. :P03:58
viscountispiked, and?03:59
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Xmasmooviscount: or antarctis. one of those penguin guys ^_^03:59
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chmod775can I do it in the command line03:59
chmod775is there an option or do I have to restart nautilus04:00
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ispikedtopdeck: probably with mount.04:00
windmill_laptophow can I make apt-get use a source that is not verified?04:00
viscountwell i just really dont know any windows developers, just people at school, but i never talk to any online and i dont go to any windows forums/wiki/anything ..so yeah, bubble boy -> me04:00
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deFryskchmod775, unrar x <rarfile>04:00
chmod775ok04:00
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viscountXmasmoo, any chance you want to share some scripts for eclipse with me?04:01
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fevelmerry christmas04:01
viscounthumbug04:01
Nilzhi04:01
windmill_laptopchmod775, or :  unrar x <rarfile> <path>  to extract to path04:01
Nilzis there a firefox 1.5 deb for breezy available?04:01
Xmasmoovsicount: sorry, I use Windows as a primary Eclipse platform :>04:02
robreedsorry about this, but I'm trying to install ubuntu when it starts installing the grub boot loader package it just does nothing?04:02
topdeckAlright, I found my usb mp3 player (Zen Sleek) connected in /proc/scsi/scsi at "Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 ID: 00 Lun: 00, how do i mount it?04:02
Xmasmooviscount: it just works04:02
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chmod775dude there is some error04:02
robreedany help?04:02
Xmasmooviscount: you can try ask help in sourceforge.net pydev forums04:02
apricoti was configuring sound with flash and now i do not hear sound when starting .swf files. Help, please!04:02
Xmasmooviscount: there are quite helpful people04:02
deFryskchmod775, is the rarfile in your hemefolder ?04:02
jendarobreed: did you try with only one CD?04:02
deFryskhome*04:02
jendarobreed: Maybe it's a damaged disk04:02
chmod775no on the desktop04:02
robreedyeah04:02
viscountXmasmoo, i cant get eclipse to run my py programs, you said you have a script to run them that works, maybe i misunderstood04:02
robreedwit only 1 cd04:02
glicki wish i woulda just gotten some nice shoes or something instead of a nano04:03
deFryskchmod775, cd Desktop04:03
fevelcan anyone help me set up tvout on ubuntu 5.10?04:03
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deFryskchmod775, unrar x <file.rar>04:03
Xmasmooviscount: yes, you can launch Python programs as an external commands if PyDev's integrated launcher doesn't work04:03
chmod775ok hang on04:03
Xmasmooviscount: I did it for Windpows + Zope some time ago04:03
Xmasmooviscount: I don04:03
Xmasmooviscount: I don't have scripts currently with me04:03
viscountXmasmoo, dang04:03
slewmerry christmas. i just got a lite-on dvd burner, i put in a dvd and totem comes up but crashes. do i need to get a driver for it?04:04
chmod775I had install unrar-free but it give me an error04:04
deFryskchmod775, like ?04:04
wastedXmasmoo, eclipse has a broken console, it cant do standard input or output (at leas for the c++ plugin, py should be the same), so you will need to launch it differently.04:04
Xmasmooviscount: but to cure your orignal problem, why launching doesn't work, go to PyDev's forums04:04
apricoti was configuring sound with flash and now i do not hear sound when starting .swf files. Help, please!04:04
chmod775shish@ash:~/Desktop$ unrar -x a.rar04:04
chmod775unrar: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:04
chmod775ashish@ash:~/Desktop$04:04
Falstiusslew, totem likes to crash.  vlc is much more stable for me playing DVDs.04:05
viscountXmasmoo, ok, i'll check it out04:05
apricoti wrote sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 in the terminal04:05
slewFalstius-> i have vlc, love vlc, how do you use it to open dvds? just /media/cdrom1?04:05
chmod775deFrysk, can u suggest something I need to do04:05
chmod775?04:05
apricotanybody04:06
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deFryskdid you sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree ? chmod77504:06
chmod775yes04:06
deFryskis the rarfile uncorrupted ?04:06
chmod775yes04:06
chmod775No way04:06
deFryskchmod775, i honestly do not know then04:07
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Evil_Whisperchmod775: What rar file are you trying to open?04:07
chmod775a file04:07
chmod775hang on04:07
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NetGrunthi there! Merry xmas to all ubuntuers!04:08
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Killalottool to turn on/off the screen?04:08
elisboadoes anyone know where can I get ndiswrapper packages for ubuntu hoary?04:08
johndarkhorseelisboa: in the repos04:09
NetGruntDoes anybody know how to burn an Audio CD from some mp3 files ? K3b says it's an unsupported format, and Serpentine CD creator idem. Any advice ? Thanks in advance04:09
johndarkhorseNetGrunt: have you enabled mp3 support?04:09
KillalotNetfeed, you need to install the mp3 package04:09
elisboajohndarkhorse: the official ones? I am using br.archive.ubuntu.com and can't find any04:09
Killalotdoes anyone know a tool to turn off my screen per console?04:10
NetGruntjohndarkhorse, enable mp3 support where ?04:10
johndarkhorseelisboa: have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?04:10
elisboajohndarkhorse: sure04:10
johndarkhorseubotu: tell NetGrunt about mp304:10
elisboatogheter with main and restricted04:10
viscountXmasmoo, sorry, do you have a link for the sourceforge.net forums?04:10
johndarkhorseubotu: tell elisboa about ndiswrapper04:10
elisboa*together04:10
elisboajohndarkhorse: thansk04:10
elisboa*thanks04:11
Evil_Whisperchmod775: Since you have unrar installed goto where you saved the rar and just click on it, it should then open in file-roller and then click extract :-)04:11
irvinbye all04:11
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chmod775file-roller04:11
Evil_Whisperchmod775: file-roller is the gnome archive manager :P04:12
NetGruntjohndarkhorse, are you sure installing "gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" k3b and serpentine are going to support mp3 to cd conversion ?04:12
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johndarkhorseNetGrunt: they'll help out quite a bit04:13
NetGruntjohndarkhorse, thanks I'll try and let you know04:13
chmod775done04:13
slewso how do i open a dvd in a dvd player/burner?04:13
chmod775cool04:13
Evil_Whisperchmod775: Nice04:13
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sewoylhi! How do I get the 'load xmodmap' dialog to come up?04:14
Falstiusslew, I just associated it with DVDs in the GNOME settings.04:14
sewoylI tried to get my 10 buttons mouse working but now even the wheel doesnt scroll!!04:15
Falstiusvlc %d or somesuch (this was on my folks computer which isn't here)04:15
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NetGruntjohndarkhorse, seems to work, thanks04:16
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NetGruntbye04:17
darkestpunkHey, has anyone tried installing mythtv on there Ubuntu system?04:17
Falstiusslew: system->prefrences->removable drives and media.  Go to multimedia tab and change the video dvd discs command to vlc %d04:17
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Seveasdarkestpunk, quite a few people :)04:19
keitois it possible to make wlan cards with rt2600 chipsets work in ubuntu?04:19
Xtraditehey all04:19
XtraditeMerry Christmas04:19
darkestpunklol im sure.. I just wanted to know if anyone who is currently on has?04:19
slewFalstius-> thanks =]  heh now the dvd wont eject! =] 04:19
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Xtraditejust got a digital camera and Ubuntu detects it fine and imports the pictures.  However I want to send some pictures from the PC to the SD card thats on the digital camera.  Any ideas on how to do this?  I don't see a drive mounted anywhere that I could copy files to?04:20
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Falstiusslew: probably a crashed instance of totem is still holding onto it.  you could try killall totem04:20
slewFalstius-> no, said no process killed. not a big deal, i need to reboot anyway, one more thing though. i added a logout button to the panel and now all it will do is log out, not shut down or restart from gnome. and when i boot up it boots to the prompt, how do i get it to go back to the way it was?04:22
lucasvohow can I change default window manager?04:22
ompaulslew, dpk-reconfigure gdm might help04:23
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Xtraditeany ideas?04:23
ompaulslew, >>sudo dpk-reconfigure gdm<< actually04:23
Dr_Willislucasvo,  you mean change the gnome window manager from metacity to some other one?04:23
slewompaul-> thanks homie04:23
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Falstiusslew: what ompaul said.  And if that doesn't work, check that you didn't modify /etc/inittab04:23
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lucasvoDr_Willis: yes, I would like to run gnome instead of xfce04:24
slewsays sudo: dpk-reconfigure: command not found04:24
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Falstiusslew: dpkg-reconfigure04:24
Dr_Willislucasvo,  technicially GNOME and XFCE are 'desktop enviroments' you mean to say - you want to run XFCE's window manager (named xfwm) in stead of gnome window manager (named metacity?)04:24
Falstiusyou're missing the g.04:24
ompaullucasvo, >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<04:25
lucasvoDr_Willis: yes04:25
ompaulFalstius, as was I  :)04:25
lucasvoDr_Willis: actually the other way around04:25
ompaulFalstius, but we all know there is no I in team ....... hehe04:25
Dr_Willislucasvo,  you proberly want to check the forum/wikis on the 'proper' way to change gnomes default window manager..  Ive always had issues with changeing it in the past.04:25
slew/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is broken or not fully installed04:26
lucasvo  edubuntu-desktop: Depends: evolution-plugins but it is not going to be installed04:26
ompaulslew >>sudo apt-get install gdm<<04:26
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slewsweet thanks ompaul. whats gdm anyway?04:27
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rem_gdm -> gnome desktop manager04:27
slewwow04:27
ompaulslew, the gnome desktop what rem_ said04:27
XtraditeHow do you mount USB devices as drives?04:28
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Seveasompaul, gdm isn't the desktop...04:28
slewwonder why it didnt come installed04:28
Seveasslew are you using kubuntu perhaps?04:28
ompaulSeveas, read what I said again :)04:28
ompaulwhat he said :)04:28
wdXtradite, they should auto-mount04:28
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slew=]  thanks guys have a good one.04:28
squidis the br.archive.ubuntu.com repositiry down???04:28
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Falstiusslew: gdm is the graphical login from gnome.04:28
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Seveasompaul, I just dropped in so I might be talking rubbish04:29
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ompaulslew, as rem_ said I should not have cut off in mid flight :)04:29
Seveaswell actually, that might be happenning anyway :)04:29
ompaulSeveas, heheh well I can't remember how to type today04:29
Seveastoo much glhwein?04:29
Falstiusmmm ... gluhwein.04:30
ompaulna - just the 12 hour days of data input for the last few days04:30
Jaredi just logged in as root and i need to make it so my non root account can manage files on my external harddrive04:30
Seveasompaul, ah, mindnumbing..04:30
notnetis the br.archive.ubuntu.com repositiry down???04:30
ompaulright off to break turkey with the family04:30
Seveasnotnet, no04:30
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notnethttp://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Linha de cabealho ruim04:31
ompaultake care, take your time, and remember you are always bigger than the problem - so don't let it get to you04:31
notnetSeveas, I am receiving error msgs from it04:31
Xtraditehmm04:31
Xtraditewd: as a drive?04:31
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Seveasnotnet, ah, it's broken then04:31
notnethttp://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Bad Header Line04:32
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Jaredseveas any idea how to solve my problem04:32
Discipulusmerry christmas to all04:33
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Discipulusand to all a good ngiht04:33
Discipulusnight*04:34
SeveasJared, what's the FS on that drive?04:34
ellecan someone tell me which format to burn a cd too so it will work on my Mum's cd player? i have tried wma, wav and MP3 the disc works on other cd players in the house but not her player. i thought it was gnomebaker not working so i'm in windows now for the first time in ages using Nero. can you help me?04:34
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slewFalstius-> vlc %d opens vlc when i put a dvd in, but nothing plays.04:34
slewshould i find a driver for it, you think?04:35
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johndarkhorseelle: if you choose "burn audio cd" the software will put it in the correct format (starting with mp3s works best)04:35
Jaredfs??04:35
notnetWich packets do I have to install so I can compile something I have intalled gcc and make what else??04:35
Discipuluselle, gnomebaker automatically puts songs into .cdda format for you so it should work in the CD Player04:35
Discipulusif it don't work in the CD player then it's either the player or you fucked up the CD burning it04:36
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Discipulusor your burning software sucks04:36
notnetWhen I type ./configure I get:04:36
notnetconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***04:36
DiscipulusJared, FileSystem04:36
Jaredi don't know....what exactly do you mean what file system?04:36
johndarkhorsenotnet: install "build-essential"04:37
Seveas!tell notnet about ompiling04:37
Seveas!tell notnet about compiling04:37
ellei tried "burn audio cd" that and it didn't work in any players. i didn't check gnomebaker's format. my cd software works fine. i don't know what else to try :(04:37
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SeveasJared, fat, ntfs, ext3, hfs+...04:37
Jaredi don't know....wait04:38
johndarkhorseelle: you'll need mp3 support before you begin04:38
keitogstreamer0.8-mad04:38
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ellemp3 support in gnomebaker? maybe i'll boot back into Ubuntu then come back :D i think i'll have alook at her other cd's to see which format they are in. thanks for the help04:39
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell elle about mp304:41
paalwhich program do I use to open /home/paal/folder/folder/folder?04:41
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Dr_Willispaal,  open in what 'way' do you mean?04:41
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paalyes04:42
johndarkhorsepaal: nautilus or applications > accessories > file manager04:42
notnetjohndarkhorse,  where do I find build-essential??04:42
notnetFrom synaptic04:42
notnet?04:42
Jared...all i know is it is a 160 gig simpletech external harddricve04:42
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slew!dvd04:42
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy04:42
Jarednonet sudo apt-get install build-essential04:42
paalthanks i thought it was nautilius :P04:42
johndarkhorsenotnet: use synaptic04:42
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slewhuzzah!04:45
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ellejohndarkhorse:thanks i'll have a look at RestrictedFormats. i know i have all the codecs and libs though because i can play everything. i just got one of her cd's i'll have a look at the format. i should have booted into Ubuntu :| i don't why i'm using XP it's the first time i've used it for months and it hasn't helped one bit.04:45
slewubutu, youve done it again, sir!04:46
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slewerr ubotu, youve done it again, sir!04:46
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johndarkhorseelle: all cds are in a standard format (unless they are those illegal computer destroying sony ones, but that wont affect linux, i dont think)04:47
dr_fie-sneez-04:47
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ellejohndarkhorse: no that's a windows problem :D , even though it's a rootkit04:48
pc22happy hannuka04:49
hovinenHey guys. I'm having some trouble with DRI using the radeon driver: libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)04:49
hovinenCan anyone tell me in what package that file is located?04:49
phreak97is there something like the right click drag in windows?04:49
phreak97i want to go like 'make shortcut here'04:49
phreak97but i cant04:50
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hovinenphreak97, Try dragging with the middle mouse button. Or, if you have no middle mouse button, use the left and right buttons simulteneously.04:53
ellephreak97 maybe middle click?04:54
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freak4pchey everyone04:54
ellehovinen: sorry i hadn't scrolled down the screen04:54
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freak4pcJust installed ubuntu04:54
freak4pchow do i install things with apt-get?04:54
freak4pci thought its "sudo apt-get install <name>"04:55
freak4pcbut it doesnt work04:55
holycowfreak4pc, you haveto find the right name first but ...04:55
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: use synaptic04:55
holycowwhy are you doing command line first if you don't have a clue?04:55
holycowuse synaptic04:55
phreak97freak4pc,  it does, but you have to have the right name and the sources set up also04:55
freak4pcjohndarkhorse,  whats synaptic?04:55
holycowsystem / admin04:55
johndarkhorseubotu: tell freak4pc about synaptic04:56
freak4pcand... in the old version04:56
freak4pcwhen i plugged usb disk04:56
freak4pcit showed an icon on the desktop04:56
freak4pcbut now it doesnt , and i cant find where the device is located...04:56
holycowit's a bug, there is no fix for it04:56
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holycowyou haveto wait for dapper to be released04:56
rileis it possible to adapt speedstep configuration to ubuntu?04:57
claudiogzqcan anyone tell me where i can find cedega with de engine??????04:57
holycowyou will have problems mounting floppy discs04:57
holycowand automounting cds, dvds and lots of crap like that04:57
freak4pcits a USB DIsk04:57
freak4pci cant mount it now? :|04:57
holycowdepending on your luck04:57
freak4pco.O ohh damn04:57
freak4pcit worked well on 5.0.404:57
freak4pc...04:57
holycowfreak4pc, if it's not working, i haven't seen a fix for it, on some boxes it works on others it doesn't04:57
freak4pc:\ so i cant do anything?04:57
Paradoxx!ipod04:57
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto04:57
Paradoxxwoot, i just got a nano :D:D:D04:58
holycowreinstall hoary and wait for dapper the issues have been brought up a lot04:58
freak4pcreinstall the old version?04:58
freak4pcbut as far as i know the old version isnt 64 bit...04:58
holycowso what?04:58
freak4pci have a 64-bit cpu ... i want it to be of good use04:58
freak4pc:D04:58
holycowyou have 2 choices, keep breezy an dwait for dapper04:58
holycowinstall hoary and wait for dapper04:59
freak4pc... gotya04:59
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: you're better off using a 686 kernel for now, the entertainment parts of the 64bit arch are lacking atm04:59
freak4pcah ok04:59
freak4pcthanks holycow & johndarkhorse04:59
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concept10freak4pc, you cant mount a usb drive in breezy?05:00
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freak4pcwell ... i have the cd here, so why not... guess ill be back later ;)05:00
freak4pcyeah , i cant...05:00
freak4pc:\05:00
freak4pci mean05:00
freak4pcin hoary05:00
freak4pcwhen i plugged it in05:00
freak4pcan icon popped on desktop05:00
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freak4pchere nothing hapens ...05:00
freak4pc*happens05:00
concept10freak4pc, it works for me.05:00
freak4pc:\05:00
freak4pcit pops an icon?05:00
freak4pcon desktop?05:00
concept10freak4pc, yes... do this...05:00
holycowfreak4pc, i told you, it's a bug.  it works on some machines not others05:01
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freak4pcahh ... gotya05:01
concept10unplug your device05:01
freak4pcdone05:01
concept10and run tail -f /var/log/messages   from the terminal05:01
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freak4pcit outputs stuff and stuck05:01
freak4pcah not stuck05:02
concept10plug the device back in, and see if it gets picked up (you should see some messages about the drive)05:02
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freak4pcw8ing for input05:02
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freak4pcyes it shows messages05:02
concept10what does it say?05:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:23 localhost usb.agent[1938] :      usb-storage: already loaded05:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.705744]    Vendor: WDC WD20  Model: 0AB-00BVA0        Rev: 21.005:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.705753]    Type:   Direct-Access               ANSI SCSI revision: 0005:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.707362]  SCSI device sda: 39100223 512-byte hdwr sectors (20019 MB)05:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.710142]  SCSI device sda: 39100223 512-byte hdwr sectors (20019 MB)05:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.710151]   /dev/scsi/host6/bus0/target0/lun0: p105:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost kernel: [ 1914.724848]  Attached scsi disk sda at scsi6, channel 0, id 0, lun 005:02
freak4pcDec 25 18:02:28 localhost scsi.agent[1986] :      sd_mod: loaded sucessfully (for disk)05:02
concept10I was about to dont paste here :)05:02
freak4pcsorry :(05:03
freak4pcpastebin next time :D05:03
concept10thats drive spam :)05:03
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freak4pcrofl05:03
freak4pcput it in pastebin?05:03
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concept10too late now05:03
freak4pclol ok sorry05:03
freak4pcehm05:03
freak4pcit recognizes the external IDE...05:03
freak4pcHDD i mea05:04
freak4pcn05:04
freak4pcno icon on desktop though05:04
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freak4pc:|05:04
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: read the /topic please05:04
concept10a little too late05:04
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freak4pcwho kicked me? :D05:04
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concept10heh05:04
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concept10merry christmas!05:05
Seveaslikewise :)05:05
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concept10;)05:05
concept10Seveas, he is PM'ing, let the poor guy back in, he said he will not paste and obey rules :)05:07
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windmill_laptophow can I make apt-get use a source that is not verified?05:08
Seveasok, let me do a little christmas flood05:08
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Seveasand clear the ban list in name of christmas spirit :)05:08
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Blue-Omega_:o05:09
Blue-Omega_nice05:09
windmill_laptopblimey05:09
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windmill_laptopis there a command line option for apt-get05:10
johndarkhorseubotu: tell windmill_laptop about apt-get05:10
battehariip addres listed when you run "last -i" command  05:10
batteharistrange ip05:10
battehariis that still there in breezy  ?05:10
john_Can anyone help me....I want to be able to play music I have stored on a windows server. I want to stream it on Ubuntu05:10
tof_hi, when I connect an external device and I have 2 sessions with 2 different users, the device is mounted by the first user, with no access for the second user... How can we mount automatically, with full access to memebers of the 'users' group?05:10
john_At the moment the music wont play05:11
john_but will if I copy the file to the ubuntu machine05:11
windmill_laptopthanks johndarkhorse05:11
holycowjohn_, you need a streaming server05:11
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john_holycow...windows XP manages it with no problem05:11
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holycowit's not really managing it, it's downloading the file locally and playing from the cache05:12
freak4pci dunno why u kicked me , but sorry anywayz :\05:12
holycowi.e. just as you were to copy it to your desktop05:12
john_holycow, is there any ubuntu software that can do that?05:12
holycowwell you just did it, download and play it05:12
holycowsame thing05:12
john_well I use itunes on xp05:13
john_to access the music05:13
john_so its easier05:13
john_no faffing about copying music to the player machine05:13
john_thats what I want from ubuntu05:13
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: read the /topic please, (and don't paste in here)05:13
john_is there any ubuntu software that will cache music i want to play from my mp3 server?05:13
dockanehi all ... could somebody please try out, if this behaviour is common: in nautilus mark a few files and folders (kb sized, small ones) and choose "Start an archive". the keyboard input gets extremely delayed when typing the filename05:13
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concept10john_, cache music?05:14
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HappufOnly few bans :D05:14
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john_concept....I used to play music in itunes from my server on my xp machine05:15
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john_i want to do the same but with ubuntu instead of xp05:15
john_but it cant do it05:15
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john_holycow says that windows downloads and caches the music before playing it05:15
concept10john_, you could do it several ways05:15
john_i tried lots of ubuntu software and none of it plays05:15
john_....ok concept...05:15
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john_1 way would be to make my server a streaming server05:16
john_?05:16
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concept10john_, I dont know what you want to do, but you could use squeezebox server05:16
holycowjohn_, you would need to install a streaming server on winxp05:17
dukebodyhello guys, could somebody help me with GnomeMeeting?05:17
johndarkhorsejohn_: you should use squid (a caching proxy server) for that05:17
john_my server is 200305:17
holycowwhatever05:17
john_im enabling steaming media services05:17
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john_see if that works05:17
john_just strange how xp can do it even tho the server is not a streaming server05:17
holycowits not strange john i told you05:17
concept10is he talking about Windows Server 2003?05:17
holycowit just copies the file locally and plays that05:17
holycowit looks like its streaming05:18
john_yeah I know05:18
john_but how can I get ubuntu to do the same?05:18
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holycowit can't i told you, not as far as i know.05:18
john_ok05:19
concept10Is your server a Windows server?05:19
john_also...is it possible to play itunes protected aac music?05:19
john_yeah05:19
john_server 200305:19
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chrissturmit doesnt have to be a streaming server, you can still play the file while you get it with http05:19
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johndarkhorsejohn_: it is not.05:20
john_ah ok05:20
john_:(05:20
concept10yeah, why does it have to stream?05:20
freak4pcwell i restarted , and the drive still isnt mounted05:20
dukebodycould somebody help me please?05:20
johndarkhorsedukebody: ask a question05:20
john_because i need to play music from my server05:20
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john_that is where all my music is stored05:20
concept10freak4pc, try mounting sda1, check the wiki for mounting fat3205:21
holycowyou can try mounting the share via samba05:21
holycowyou can try mounting the share via ftp if you have an ftp server05:21
holycowdon't know if that would work05:21
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john_yeah it is mounted05:21
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freak4pcwhen i go into disk manager it says the drive is on /dev/sda05:21
dukebodycould somebody help me with GnomeMeeting, please? I want to have a videoconference with a friend who uses Windows and i don't know how to05:21
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Paradoxxany1 have any experience getting ubuntu to pick up a nano???05:22
john_and when I access music in a media player on ubuntu it puts the name of the file in say xmms05:22
john_but it doesnt play05:22
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john_if i copy it to the machine, it does play05:22
johndarkhorsedukebody: have you been to the gnomemeeting homepage/forums?05:22
freak4pcjohn_, you have the codecs?05:22
john_yes05:22
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john_like i said05:22
john_music plays fine as long as it is on the ubuntu machine locally05:22
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tiredbonesI use hoary, I would like to install gvim, but synaptic show nothing. Is it under a different name?05:23
john_when I try to play music direct from a windows share it wont play05:23
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cthulhucan somebody help configuring lirc??05:23
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concept10john_, are you talking about accessing the file from a samba share and it doesnt mount/05:24
concept10?05:24
RO0Ttiredbones I use hoary, I would like to install gvim, but synaptic show nothing. Is it under a different name?.......... try to add more repositories to your sources.list05:24
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tiredbonesROOT, any particular repository?05:25
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john_grrr this is so annoying, every few minutes ubuntu needs the username and password for my windows server05:25
john_i enter it and add it to the key ring of passwords and it still asks me05:25
jenda-goneALL: The #help channel needs your long term help... I am trying to revive this chan. People come there with all sorts of problems and all I can tell them is what chan they should go to. If you ever have spare time, feel free to idle there and help the occasional comers. Ask me if you have any questions about the chan.05:26
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holycowjohn_, oh thats another thing, consider samba config screwed ... everyone has that problem, i am not sure there is a solution just yet05:26
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holycowthats why i'm telling you, you can either install a webserver and try that, or install a streaming media server on your win box and stream to whatever client supports various streaming protocols anywhere05:27
john_ah i see05:27
holycowa lot of the servers have a web based interface that allow you to manage playlists and so forth05:27
holycowwhat you are trying to do is apply a windows solution, but it doesn't work because windows hides lots from you and as a consequence you don't learn anything, especially what questions to ask05:27
john_ok05:28
holycowall windows users end up asking the same questions 'but it used to work' which is fine, simply indicative05:28
holycowthe nice thing with a streaming server is you can serve it to you self anywhere05:28
holycowif your at school or work or whatever05:28
RO0Ttiredbones ROOT, any particular repository?................go to apt-get.org and check your query05:28
holycowjust get an accounton dyndns.org and point to home ... you can setup your server to adjust dyndns.org entries if you like if you are on a dynamic ip range05:29
holycowbtw welcome to ubuntu :)05:29
tiredbonesIs http://ubuntuguide.org the official user guide?05:29
concept10nopr05:29
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tiredbonesconcept10, was that comment to my question?05:31
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bulioI can't apt-get dist-upgrade05:31
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buliosomething about servers05:31
concept10tiredbones, yes05:31
buliois a server down or something?05:31
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buliobunch of these05:32
bulioW: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/python2.4-samba_3.0.14a-6ubuntu1_i386.deb05:32
bulio  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused)05:32
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tiredbonesconcept10, ok - point me the the correct user guide.05:32
bulioanyone?05:32
johndarkhorsetiredbones: it is not.05:32
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johndarkhorsetiredbones: ubuntuguide will wreck your system (it is very out of date), use help.ubuntu.com instead (it IS official)05:33
holycowbulio, try another repository, or make sure to apt-get update first05:33
concept10tiredbones, correct for what? search the wiki05:33
johndarkhorsebulio: try again later, you appear to be having network issues05:33
bulioso I have to wait to upgrade to breey?05:33
bulio*breezy05:33
concept10tiredbones, there is a guide similar to the ubuntuguide by the ubuntu documentationt team,05:34
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bulioso the server is down?05:34
tiredbonesjohndarkhorse, thanks for the pointer!!05:34
traewhich one of these should I install for an Intel Centrino 1.6mhz Mobile chip laptop:05:34
trae  mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu905:34
trae  mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu905:34
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johndarkhorsetrae: the 586 is fine05:34
traejohndarkhorse, danke05:35
buliois a server down?05:35
johndarkhorsebulio: it could be many things05:36
buliohrmm05:36
bulioso I should wait?05:36
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traehmm05:37
traeplaying avi's seem choppy05:37
buliobunch of things like Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources05:37
bulio  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused)05:37
ThndrShk2kCan someone assist me. i am trying to install ndiswrapper, but it won't install05:37
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traeI thought it was just totem.05:37
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tof_hi, when I have 2 users on 2 gnome sessions there is a problem when I insert a media. One user mount it with no access for the other. How can I configure gnome-volume-manager so that when it mounts a device, it's rwx for the 'users' group?05:38
bulioso no one has any idea whats up?05:38
traeyeah, other video that I've taken before, that I know aren't choppy play back choppy too.05:39
buliosomeone try apt-get update05:39
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buliodo you get connection errors05:39
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traemvi_0637.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 640 x 480, ~15 fps, video: Motion JPEG, audio: uncompressed PCM (mono, 11024 Hz)05:40
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ThndrShk2kwhen i try to install ndiswrapper, i get "Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/build;05:40
ThndrShk2k  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make05:40
ThndrShk2k"05:40
johndarkhorseubotu: tell ThndrShk2k about paste05:40
johndarkhorseubotu: tell ThndrShk2k about ndiswrapper05:41
buliodammit, Is it down :(05:41
ionHi firstly Merry Chistmas for everyone, so how shall I install a compiler and which is available ?05:42
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bulioso no one can help me?05:43
johndarkhorseion: install "build-essential"05:43
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johndarkhorsebulio: you are having a network issue, try again later or change your URLs for your repos05:43
cmatheson!tell bulio about questions05:43
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buliowhat urls should I change to>05:44
bulioI'll try and reboot05:44
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cmatheson!tell bulio about easysource05:45
yanishello05:45
cmathesonbulio: you basically will never ever need to reboot unless you install a new kernel05:45
yanischeck here ( http://pastebin.ca/34860 ) the dmesg log for my HDD and tell me what do you think05:46
ionjohndarkhorse: is already done...so how shall I find the compiler ?05:46
Seveascmatheson, which fortunately is several times per release, Ubuntu has a pro-active approach to security :)05:47
johndarkhorseion: when you build your source, the commands are available for your use05:47
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ThndrShk2kYeah, the page that ubotu sent me didn't help at all...05:47
cmathesonSeveas: heh, yeah... still, i think it's better to not get in the habit of rebooting every time you do anything (e.g. change your sources.list)05:48
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johndarkhorseThndrShk2k: use synaptic and search and find "linux-source" and 'kernel-headers' for your kernel05:48
ionjohndarkhorse: for example if I want run a simple " hello world"05:48
ThndrShk2kdid linux source, but not headers05:48
ThndrShk2kthanks05:49
skonNothing like linux on a christmas05:49
johndarkhorseion: all the commands are available in your terminal05:49
DiscipulusMerry Christmas to all05:49
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Seveascmatheson, indeed05:49
ThndrShk2kSkon, i was trying to setup ubuntu, but i accidentally made my windows partition ext3 and hit save >.>05:49
SeveasDiscipulus, likewise05:49
ThndrShk2kso i have no choice until i get a windows CD05:49
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buliois there another repo I could use?05:50
kestasnight, merry xmas05:50
buliostill getting problems with apt-get dist-upgrade05:50
ionjohndarkhorse: but in c++ not python05:50
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skonThndrShk2k: eek, that sucks...I remember I got my first linux distro about 5 christmases ago: Linux Mandrake 6.505:50
johndarkhorseThndrShk2k: seems a like a fortunate mistake, to me. no more worms, viruses or other windows nastiness for xmas?05:50
buliocan't connect to archive.ubuntu.com05:50
cmathesonbulio: are you going through a proxy or something?05:50
ThndrShk2kWell i took good care of my XP Pro box >.>, just means half my spritework I didn't backup goes byebye05:51
uytuythgfHi ;-) Can someone help me with this one... I've deleted the samba startup/shutdown script in /etc/init.d, Can someone send it to me? I'm running Breezy Badger.05:51
johndarkhorseion: your 'build-essential' installed gcc-4.0, do you need something else?05:51
bulionope05:51
bulioI have a router though05:51
SeveasThndrShk2k, ouch :(05:51
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ThndrShk2kand JDH, Synaptic says the linux-kernel-headers is already installed05:51
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bulioany idea what might be doing it?05:51
bulioupgraded to hoary05:51
bulioworked fine05:51
SeveasThndrShk2k, there are disk recovery programs that can do a lot for you if you don't touch the partition after messing it up this way05:51
buliosetup breezy sources05:52
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buliothen apt-get dist-upgrade05:52
bulioand I get the connection thing05:52
ThndrShk2kprobably seveas, but i formatted it aftewards since i didn't know of them05:52
ThndrShk2kso any data that was there is now gone ;o;05:52
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Seveashmm, that makes it tougher indeed :(\05:52
bulioFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pycurl/python2.4-pycurl_7.14.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused)05:53
bulioE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?05:53
uytuythgfIs there a place where I can download the samba script ?05:53
buliothings like that05:53
ThndrShk2kunless there is a free program that recovers partial deleted data, but i doubt it05:53
nick01I compiled a custom kernel and now it sais failed to initialize HAL and I get no sound ; please help05:53
ionjohndarkhorse: well I don't know if I need something else....I wonder if I have to do the same process as windows to run the program...05:53
cmathesonnick01: you can revert to your old kernel in the grub menu05:53
johndarkhorseThndrShk2k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:53
nick01cmatheson, I know but I'd like to fix this one05:53
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bulioso no suggestions?05:54
traegrr, now this is odd.  Now the video plays without being jumpy, but the sound is all distorted.05:54
cmathesonnick01: compare your .config to the stock ubuntu one05:54
nick01cmatheson, or know what went wrong and compile another one05:54
nick01lol05:54
nick01that's huge05:54
nick01cmatheson, it works fine on slackware my config file05:54
john_is it possible to mount a windows shared folder in ubuntu as a device like you can in windows?05:54
john_like mapping a drive05:55
cmathesonjohn_: check out smbfs i think05:55
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Ng_john_: there's a Connect to server option in the Places menu, or what cmatheson said :)05:55
cmathesonnick01: you can't modprobe the module for your sound-carfd?05:55
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Ng_nick01: if you're going to compile a custom kernel, start with the Ubuntu kernel config in /boot/ but generally don't bother unless you really need to - there's little point05:55
john_itried that but it isnt accessible from various music playing software05:55
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nick01cmatheson, I modprobed the module it loaded but still no sound05:56
Ngjohn_: then it'll need to be smbfs, which will let you mount the windows share to the normal linux filesystem so anything can access it05:56
cmathesonnick01: that's unusual, did sound work w/ the normal ubuntu kernel?05:56
nick01cmatheson, in fact the module is loaded fine by the distro itself05:57
john_NG, how would I go about doing that?05:57
nick01yes05:57
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john_I just want to access a windows share as if it were a local drive05:57
john_like in windows05:57
ionjohndarkhorse: I found the manual I think is just read it now ....cheers man thank you very much.....05:57
john_mainly to play music05:57
john_but some people say its not possible05:57
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john_as windows doesnt really play music direct form a mapped drive, instead it downloads and caches it05:58
netventurejonh_ that feature si kinda automated in the new gnome version (IMHO) in dapper drake05:58
funkyHatjohn_, it is possible, using smbfs05:58
john_and linux cant do it05:58
john_so how do i use smbfs?05:58
Ngjohn_: this might help: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com05:58
Ngerr05:58
Ngdamnit05:58
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nick01cmatheson, I think it has to do with that HAL error05:58
Ngjohn_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:58
Ngthat's better :)05:58
john_thanks05:59
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john_do you think it is worth me installing dapper instead of breezy?05:59
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Ngno!05:59
johndarkhorsejohn_: not right now, no.05:59
john_k05:59
cmathesonnick01: i don't know... i've used sound w/out HAL many times before... but it could be05:59
Ngjohn_: dapper is unstable, do not install it until it is released05:59
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john_the second link I was sent is timing out05:59
john_ah no its not06:00
john_my bad06:00
john_its ok06:00
nick01root@T72:/home/nick01# alsamixer06:00
nick01alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device06:00
Ngjohn_: if the share you want to mount doesn't need a password, scroll down the page - there are simpler instructions for that06:00
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john_so do you think onces I have mounted a windows share permanently using smbfs I will be able to play music files direct from the windows share as if it were stored locally?06:00
Ngjohn_: yes06:00
john_unfortunately its windows server 2003 so i need username and password06:01
john_is that still ok?06:01
nick01cmatheson, if I can't fix it I'm gonna have to try kanotix or revert back to slackware06:01
john_i noticed a bug in samba where it keeps asking me for username an dpassword06:01
john_for ther server06:01
funkyHatjohn_, yes, check out the page Ng linked you to, it's all there06:01
Ngjohn_: erk, if it's 2003 you might need to use cifs instead of smbfs - they changed the way 2003 does smb :/06:01
cmathesonjohn_: yes, you'll there's mount options for that.. you'll have to read the samba docs though06:01
john_even if it is stored in the key ring06:01
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john_ok06:01
cmathesonnick01: yeah you should really start comparing your config to the stock ubuntu one06:01
john_so do I try smbfs first?06:01
john_or cifs?06:01
john_is it a similar method?06:01
ElitePetehow do i search running processes ?06:02
cmathesonjohn_: i'm not familiar w/ cifs, but either one is probably fihnje06:02
cmathesonElitePete: ps06:02
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john_k will try06:02
Ngjohn_: try the instructions on that page, if it doesn't work then ask again here abuot cifs, but you may just be able to replace the "smbfs" section of the fstab line with "cifs"06:02
john_thanks mucho06:02
Effimerry christmas comrades06:02
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nick01cmatheson, if I don't know what I'm looking for it would be useless- I removed most of the stuff and I won't start adding everything back in06:03
Effii want to install a new ubuntu system and i am asking me, wheather to create an extra partition for my /home folder or not. Can me say someone if it is usefully?06:03
brk3hey does anyone know how do you network 2 linux boxes together? i have the network cable connected but they wont pick up the connection..06:03
psychogogogomerry christmas too everybody06:03
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NgEffi: a separate /home partition is an excellent idea06:03
cmathesonnick01: so just take the ubuntu kernel and remove the stuff you don't want, and if you're not sure if you need it or not just leave it in... you're gaining much by disabling a bunch of modules anyway06:03
NgEffi: it means you can re-install the system really easily06:04
funkyHatEffi, it is very useful06:04
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ElitePeteEffi, cheers it's a great idea06:04
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Effithanks Ng, funkyHat and ElitePete06:04
nick01grrr06:04
RedEyeshi06:04
Effiso can i create an partition with the ubuntu installation routine?06:04
funkyHatnick01, what are you having problems with?06:04
RedEyeshappy christmas :] 06:04
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funkyHatEffi, yes06:04
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meepyTo install Firefox 1.5? How? I downloaded the package, and extracted to my desktop? Now what? No installer?06:05
nick01funkyHat, sound in a custom kernel- this same config file works no problem in slackware; and even now the sound modules are loaded but alsamixer doesn't work the mixer is disabled and no sound in gnome06:05
funkyHatEffi, you need to select the manual partition editor option, and just create a separate partition with the mountpoint /home06:05
cmatheson!tell meepy about  ff1.506:05
meepydident et a pm :|06:05
Effiok funkyHat do i need to create the size of the partitions on my own? what sizes do you recommend for the whole stuff?=06:05
cmatheson!tell meepy about  firefox1.506:05
meepythanks06:06
Ngnick01: you are probably missing some sound modules then06:06
nick01Ng, nope06:06
nick01all there06:06
Ngnick01: boot into a stock ubuntu kernel, do an lsmod, reboot into your custom kernel and do another, see what changed06:06
nick01it worked in slcak as I said06:06
Ngnick01: irrelevant06:06
Ngslack != ubuntu06:06
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nick01snd_via82xx            23956  006:06
nick01that's the module06:06
Ngnick01: there's way more to alsa making noise than one module06:06
funkyHatEffi, You'll want 4 or 5 GB for / most likely (I strongly doubt you'll use more than that), 2x your RAM up to a maximum of 1GB (unless your ram is > 1 GB, in which case match it)06:07
funkyHatfor your swap partition06:07
nick01Ng, all the required modules are there06:07
nick01and they're loaded too06:07
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funkyHatEffi, and the rest of the space you're giving to linux in your /home partition06:07
Ngnick01: then you missed something else out06:07
Ngnick01: start with the ubuntu kernel config and change/patch whatever it is that's forcing you to compile a kernel, it'll be far easier06:08
paulproteus|lapt!tell paulproteus|lapt about firefox1.506:08
Ngnick01: for reference, I have one soundcard and 21 modules loaded with snd_ in them06:08
nick01Ng, the only thing that went wrong in my kernel was the HAL error- could that be it ? cause the sound modules are loaded as I said06:08
cmathesonpaulproteus|lapt: haha, if you want to know yourself, you could just /msg ubotu06:08
Ngnick01: I have no idea, probably though06:08
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nick01Ng, I know I have lots of those too06:08
paulproteus|laptcmatheson: That's what ubotu said, too. :)06:08
Ngnick01: how come you need a custom kernel anyway? ;)06:08
cmathesonpaulproteus|lapt: oh ok, hehe06:09
nick01Ng, I like having my own kernel06:09
Bree-CalifHas anyone here tried to upgrade to teTeX 3 on Breezy? Breezy installs 2.0.2; Dapper installs 3, but I can't afford to risk the upgrade to Dapper yet.06:09
EffifunkyHat, ok, that sounds great but what do you mean with : " 2x your RAM up to a maximum of 1GB "? Is this the size for the swap partition or what do you mean with that?06:09
paulproteus|laptEffi: That's the suggested swap partition size.06:10
Ngnick01: then you'll have to do a bunch of digging around and see what your config is mising I guess, or use the stock kernel :)06:10
funkyHatEffi, yeah, that was the size of the swap partition, but johndarkhorse has just informed me that you probably wont see any benefit to having any more than 768MB swap, regardless of ram06:10
nick01Ng, or install kanotix :P06:10
Ngnick01: if you want...06:11
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: You should probably be able to roll your own backport.06:11
Effiok, so when I have a 512 MB Ram size 768 MB of swap partition is enough?06:11
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Want some help with that?06:11
paulproteus|laptEffi: Yes, that's enough swap.06:11
Ngnick01: you generally don't gain anything by compiling your own kernel though, so I'd just stick with the ubuntu one :)06:11
paulproteus|laptng++06:11
johndarkhorseEffi: if you have over 768mb ram, just leave the swap at 768mb06:11
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I could use some help, sure. I've downloaded the .debs from the Dapper distribution; figured that would be easier - but ran into a dependency issue that scared me a bit with libstdc++606:12
johndarkhorseBree-Calif: mixing dapper and breezy may not be nice06:12
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Okay, one sec.06:12
Effiok thanks a lot paulproteus|lapt , johndarkhorse and funkyHat06:12
nick01Ng, even just compiling for my cpu should give an improvement06:12
johndarkhorseBree-Calif: better to have apt-get build from source06:12
Ngnick01: install the -686 or -k6 kernel :)06:12
Bree-Califjohndarkhorse - Yeah, it looks that way to me too, but I'm too much of a newbie to be sure, so I kept it safe.06:12
Ngor -k7 rather06:13
nick01k06:13
nick01I go now06:13
nick01bye06:13
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: I have a script for you - http://pastebin.com/47842106:13
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Download this.  Feel free to read it through; it's very simple.06:13
fredforfaenmerry x-mas suckers06:13
paulproteus|laptfredforfaen: You, too. :)06:13
fredforfaen:)06:13
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - Thanks - I'm revving up Firefox now06:14
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paulproteus|laptOnce you have it downloaded, tell me, Bree-Calif.06:15
cornetahi06:15
Bree-CalifWill do, paulproteus|lapt ... wait one06:15
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Effiat the moment i am copying with knoppix the /home folder of an hdd to another one and I am having a transferrate of about 3 MB/s. That seems very few to me. Is this a normal rate?06:17
paulproteus|laptEffi: No, it is very slow.06:18
cornetahi06:18
paulproteus|laptEffi: hdparm will make it faster.06:18
cornetado you speak ingles, or spanish??06:18
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Seveascorneta, we seak english in here06:18
Seveasfor spanish you can go to #ubuntu-es06:18
Seveasfor brazilian to #ubuntu-br06:19
uytuythgfcan someone please paste the content of /etc/init.d/samba from ubuntu breezy in a private chat window. I can't find it anywhere06:19
cornetai am speak only inglish06:19
Effipaulproteus|lapt, but I cant make the rate faster without stopping the copying prozess?06:19
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I've downloaded the script and have questions - mainly, what to add to sources.list06:19
cornetavery little06:19
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paulproteus|laptEffi: You can make it faster without stopping it.06:19
Seveascorneta, then you should probably try #ubuntu-br06:20
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pinkisntwell if I kill xscreensaver the power management still turns off my monitor when the time passes! how do I disable that too?06:20
cornetaoh thanks06:20
johndarkhorseSeveas: what the heck is up with r4ndy?06:20
tonyyarusso#06:20
tonyyarusso# Start/stops the Samba daemons (nmbd and smbd).06:20
tonyyarusso#06:20
tonyyarusso#06:20
tonyyarusso# Defaults06:20
johndarkhorseSeveas: such dedicatio06:20
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Do you have deb-src lines in your sources.list?06:20
tonyyarussoRUN_MODE="daemons"06:20
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tonyyarusso# Reads config file (will override defaults above)06:20
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - yes, for the breezy repositories06:21
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tonyyarussoif ! start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D; then06:21
cornetaseveas, thanks06:21
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Then duplicate them for dapper.06:21
defendguinhow soon might the legal mp3 decoder be available as a package for ubuntu?06:21
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tonyyarussofi06:21
Effipaulproteus|lapt, can you say me, which option I need to make the transferation faster?06:21
paulproteus|laptNote that with only deb-src lines, you will *not* bring any binary packages in.06:21
tonyyarussofi06:21
tonyyarussolog_end_msg 006:21
tonyyarusso;;06:21
tonyyarussostop)06:21
tonyyarussolog_begin_msg "Stopping Samba daemons..."06:21
paulproteus|laptEffi: hdparm -d1 -m32 /dev/hda06:21
tonyyarussostart-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile $NMBDPID06:21
tonyyarusso# Wait a little and remove stale PID file06:21
tonyyarussosleep 106:21
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tonyyarussoif [ -f $NMBDPID ]  && ! ps h `cat $NMBDPID` > /dev/null06:22
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jbroomeflood!06:22
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Effiis it the device i am writing the data on paulproteus|lapt ?06:22
Seveasand there's the first ban again06:22
Seveassome people never learn06:22
paulproteus|laptEffi: Do it to both the source and target drives.06:22
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Tell me once you've made that change.06:22
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - let me ask you this - am I likely to corrupt Breezy by mixing in some critical Dapper-version libs, as johndarkhorse hinted (and as I've worried)?06:22
murrhi, what program should i use to test a webcam?06:23
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Backporting mitigates most of that risk.06:23
john_hmm I have just permanently mounted a windows share in ubuntu but cant see the contents of the share?06:23
paulproteus|laptAnd it's going to be easy to remove them if you don't like what they do.06:23
Moeenmurr, f.e gnomeeting06:23
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: The point is, you won't bring in any dapper-version libraries; you'll compile Dapper packages against your own Breezy-version libraries.06:23
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apologyWas trying to do that as a pm to uytuythgf as requested; carriage returns were handled differently than expected.  See you all later.06:23
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paulproteus|laptapology: Use a pastebin next time. (-:06:24
Moeenmurr, s/gnomeeting/GnomeMeeting :D06:24
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - Understood. This sounds good. I'm editing sources.list now, brb06:24
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murrMoeen: ok, i'll try that06:24
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Okay, great.06:24
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Effipaulproteus|lapt, unfortunately i got a failed message : http://nopaste.php-q.net/18036606:25
GrackshrikeAre there via unichrome drivers for ubuntu?06:25
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paulproteus|laptEffi: Try for your real hard drive device.06:25
Rodietzecan I use my Hoary packages in Breezy?06:25
Effipaulproteus|lapt, what do you mean?06:26
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK; I've edited sources.list and replaced all "breezy" with "dapper" (saved an unedited copy as sources.list.breezy and will copy it back when we're done...)06:26
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: No.06:26
paulproteus|laptThat's bad-bad-bad.06:26
paulproteus|laptIt's essential that you only change deb-src lines.06:27
paulproteus|laptIt's important that you not change "deb" lines.06:27
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK will change the "deb" lines back to breezy.06:27
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Great.06:27
arodbreezy and intel ipw2200. I got continuously this error: "ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.". any hints?06:27
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Effipaulproteus|lapt, can you explain me, what do you mean with saying, that i shell try it with me real hard drive device? I don't understand, what i shall do06:28
paulproteus|laptEffi: Do you know what /dev/ device represents your two hard drives.06:28
paulproteus|laptEffi: Do you know what /dev/ device represents your two hard drives?06:28
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paulproteus|laptThere's one drive you're copying from, and another you're copying to.06:29
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geramtHI!06:30
geramtCan you help me?06:30
geramtI'm new in Ubuntu06:30
Effipaulproteus|lapt, sorry, i can`t follow you06:30
john_I'm having trouble mounting a windows share can anyone help me?06:30
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - back - with sources.list edited as specified. all "deb" repositories are "breezy"; all "deb-src" repositories are "dapper".06:30
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ElitePetequick, somone name a linux program they use commonly06:30
paulproteus|laptOpenOffice.org06:30
paulproteus|laptgaim06:30
paulproteus|laptPINE06:30
ElitePetewhats PINE ?06:30
john_email06:31
paulproteus|laptA terminal-mode email program.06:31
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Good.  Now, I want you to put the script in /tmp/backport .06:31
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Effipaulproteus|lapt, do you coincidentally speak german?06:32
paulproteus|laptEffi: No, sadly.06:32
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paulproteus|laptOnly French and English.06:32
Effiah ok...06:32
geramtHI!06:32
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geramtI'm new in Ubunti and I need help06:32
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geramtJe suis nuveau en Ubuntu et j'ai besoin d'aide06:33
Effiso do I need to cange an option or what do you mean with try a real hard drive device?06:33
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jimmy_hi06:33
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK, it's in /tmp/backport06:33
paulproteus|laptgeramt: C'est chouette, mais tu devrais aller a #ubuntu-fr si tu veux de l'aide. (-;06:33
Bree-CalifSaved it as backport.sh06:33
jimmy_can somebody pls post the link to that tool that creates a new, custom /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:34
geramtNOn, je ne suis pas francais, je suis mexicain :P06:34
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geramtI have a Pentium IV at 1.7M, 128 of ram and 20 g of hd but My Ubuntu is really raly slow06:35
gnomefreak!fr06:35
Agrajagget more ram06:35
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:35
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john_how do i get root acces in terminal?06:35
geramtAnd with Swap?06:35
geramtI read about swap06:36
Effijohn_, sudo su?06:36
john_Effi, im new he he06:36
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Run this: /tmp/backport.sh mairix06:36
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john_thanks06:36
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ubuntuhiu06:36
ubuntuhi06:36
geramtAnd I dont know how to write the "at" (a) for the emails06:36
ubuntuhow do i become superuser in ubuntu?06:36
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: You'll need to do this as root.06:36
Effiubuntu, by pressing su ?06:37
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: sudo sh /tmp/backport.sh mairix06:37
ubuntuok06:37
paulproteus|lapt!tell ubuntu about root06:37
AgrajagEffi: sudo -i06:37
unixneed some help with MASQ06:38
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - It ran OK until dpkg-buildpackage then failed. Error was "Child process failed"06:38
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell john_ about sudo06:38
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Can you pastebin the errors?06:38
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell ubuntu about sudo06:38
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: BTW, I'm just using this as a test of the backport process on your computer.06:38
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - sure - and understood that this was a test06:38
Bree-Califwait one06:38
Effipaulproteus|lapt, I think this is the problem: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device. Do you know how to fix that problem? what is ioctl?06:39
paulproteus|laptEffi: It's an "Input/Output control command".06:39
Effioh06:39
paulproteus|laptEffi: Try on /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd instead of /dev/hda .06:39
PuUbSiEAny one to help me with Masquerade-ing06:39
Effiah, now i am knowing, what you meant before06:39
Effi@ paulproteus|lapt06:39
paulproteus|laptEffi: Okay. (-:06:39
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - it's at http://pastebin.com/47844306:40
cartesian1984ah, hello all. and merry Christmas. Might anyone know of a way to configure KXdocker to uses apps other than the defaults? I have ubuntu/GNOME and thus don't want the KDE ones on the dock06:40
johndarkhorsecartesian1984: is there no config or rc file for it?06:40
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: One sec.06:41
cartesian1984johndarkhorse: I am not sure, let me have a look06:41
HymnToLifeCan anyone tell me if the support for PCI-E video cards is good on linux ?06:41
Hikaru79What exactly does acpid and acpi-utils do? Is it safe to turn them off on a desktop computer?06:41
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cartesian1984johndarkhorse: it would be a hidden file in the home folder, right?06:42
jimmy_can somebody pls post the link to that tool that creates a new, custom /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:42
HymnToLifejimy > gedit06:42
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KiraGood day.06:42
johndarkhorsecartesian1984: if it's a kde app, it might be in ~/.kde    or ~/.kx_blah06:42
Effipaulproteus|lapt, what would be a usual transferrate?06:42
Xtraditehey how do you view a usb device as a drive in ubuntu?06:42
Xtraditeor folder... i mean06:43
KiraIs the ubuntu installation disc capable of resizing NTFS partitions? I forgot.06:43
Hikaru79Xtradite, mount it.06:43
paulproteus|laptKira: Yes.06:43
Hikaru79Xtradite, type: man mount06:43
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: sudo apt-get build-dep mairix06:43
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paulproteus|laptDoes that work?06:43
XtraditeHikaru79: how?  When i hook up my digital camera it finds it and I can import pictures but when I want to copy files from the OS to the drive I don't know how b/c I can't see it06:43
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: If it works *or* succeeds, paste the whole command-line output into a pastebin, please.06:43
cartesian1984johndarkhorse: ah, yes, I found it. thank you.06:44
HymnToLifeXtradite > isn't it in the Places menu ?06:44
Effipaulproteus|lapt, i think for the /dev/hda hdd dma is enabled but the /dev/sda wont work. Is there something different with sata hard disk drives?06:44
paulproteus|laptEffi: SATA drives should have DMA by default.06:45
Hikaru79Xtradite, oh, we're talking about digicams?06:45
Xtraditeyup06:45
Hikaru79In that case, check out gphoto206:45
Hikaru79That lets you upload files to digi cams :)06:45
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Sorry this is so much work; I think you may not be using my script correctly, or you deleted the breezy deb lines from sources.list.06:45
Effioh06:45
Hikaru79I don't know if you can mount cameras as mass storage devices. I'd just go with gphoto206:45
Xtraditehikaru : oh really?  ok.06:45
Xtraditehikaru:  cool06:45
john_i have just mounted a windows share in /mnt/ will it be there after a reboot/.06:45
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john_?06:45
paulproteus|laptjohn_: It won't be, by default.06:45
Hikaru79Enjoy, Xtradite  ^_^06:45
john_how do I make it be?06:46
mjrHikaru79, many cameras can be mounted; some can't, and for some of those, yes, gphoto2 is the right tool. (And it can handle the mountable ones too, I think)06:46
john_please06:46
john_:)06:46
paulproteus|laptjohn_: The last line in /etc/mtab should mention /mnt ; just append it to /etc/fstab .06:46
ubuntui'm trying to configure opera in ubuntu but it wont work06:46
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - it succeeded and the output is here: http://pastebin.com/478445 -- I could pastebin sources.list if that would help; don't think I got it wrong after you warned me about the breezy deb repositories having to stay breezy06:46
meepyI screwed up the installation for firefox 1.5, not everything went correct, hmm. How do I remove FF 1.5?06:46
ubuntugive error "Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."06:46
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ubuntugives error06:46
Lagroj/ #ubuntu-ro06:47
john_paul, im not sure i understand06:47
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Do this:06:47
Lagrohi06:47
paulproteus|laptsudo sh -x /tmp/backport mairix06:47
norberthi06:47
paulproteus|laptAnd paste me the whole output.06:47
Xtraditehikaru79:  any other good apps you'd recommend?  just in general?06:47
norbertfrohe und ruhige weihnacht euch allen06:47
ElitePete!de06:48
ubotufrom memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:48
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - http://pastebin.com/47845006:48
KiraCan the installation disc check its own integrity?06:49
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Erm, did you see the error?06:49
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Did you call that file backport.sh ?06:49
paulproteus|laptI forgot.06:49
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johndarkhorseKira: yes, hit "esc" when you can and from the menu that comes up, you'll see the choice06:49
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bobbydhi06:49
cmathesonKira: isn't there a check cd thing? (or is that debian?)06:49
paulproteus|laptYeah, it appears you called it backport.sh.06:49
paulproteus|laptsudo sh -x /tmp/backport.sh mairix06:49
bobbydwhen I play midi files in timidity the drums don't work, it says that instrument isn't mapped. any ideas?06:49
ElitePeteim told i have 2 broken packages but i can't seem to find them06:50
paulproteus|laptKira: I think it has a method for doing that.06:50
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ElitePetehow do i find my broken packages?06:51
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paulproteus|laptElitePete: apt-get -f install06:51
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - yes, I did. I ls'd /tmp/backport and found this, if it helps: http://pastebin.com/47845306:51
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: sudo sh -x /tmp/backport.sh mairix06:51
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Sionidei wanna buy a USB bluetooth dongle with my xmas money - will it work with ubuntu?06:52
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - no such file or directory06:52
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: What is the full path to the .sh file that is my script?06:52
mjrSionide, most probably any you'll buy will work, but googling for "linux" and the model you're thinking of can't hurt06:52
paulproteus|lapt/tmp/backport/backport.sh ?06:52
Dr_WillisSionide,  mine did. I ended up using the Kde bluetooth tools however.06:52
paulproteus|laptIn that case, Bree-Calif: sudo sh -x /tmp/backport/backport.sh mairix06:53
ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, i found the packages how do i remove them06:53
phasegenIs it possible to add another dist cd to apt sources, such as edubuntu or kubuntu????  If so, what would the line look like?06:53
paulproteus|lapt"apt-get -f install" should let you remove them.06:53
ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, i get an error06:53
mjrphasegen, use apt-cdrom to add the new cd06:53
gnomefreakwho has the site for supported hardware?06:53
paulproteus|laptElitePete: Pastebin it.06:53
ogra_ibookphasegen, no need to ...06:53
johndarkhorse!hardware06:53
ubotuhardware is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:53
ogra_ibookphasegen, edubuntu and kubuntu use the same repositoriew06:53
gnomefreakty johndarkhorse06:53
Dr_Willisphasegen,  the Kubuntu web site details it -  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will  get all the different kubuntu packages.06:53
Dr_Willisphasegen,  its kind of missleading to think of them as 'different' disrtos. they are more the same core disrto with different packages by default.06:54
bobbydcan anyone with timidity hear the drums on this track? http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-22134/nmm/mario1.mid06:54
ElitePete!pastebin06:54
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:54
SionideDr_Willis, yep just read that in the forums06:54
phasegenogra_ibook:  I have a dialup connection that hits at 28.8K.  Any cd repository I add helps dramatically.06:54
cmathesonok06:54
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - a very busy little computer there for a moment :) - ending in "Here's what you've won" and the mairix deb package06:55
Dr_Willisbobbyd,  i here a little thunk thunk.. in the background... that what ya mean? this is with windows xp however. :P06:55
ogra_ibookphasegen, ah, yes, then use apt-cdrom06:55
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Good.06:55
Bree-Calif:)06:55
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Now, try this:06:55
paulproteus|laptsudo apt-get remove bison06:55
paulproteus|laptAnd try making mairix again.06:55
gnomefreak:(06:55
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK, wait one06:55
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Sure.06:56
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ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616106:56
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Your patience is appreciated. (-:06:56
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK, it sees the dependency and installs bison, then builds the mairix deb, or at least that's what it looks like it's doing06:56
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Okay, good.06:56
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - this isn't patience, this is enjoyment. I'm learning, that's always a good thing06:57
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Now, what's the thing you *wanted* in the first place, tetex-bin ?06:57
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - yes, I won the mairix deb - the script is working it seems :)06:57
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ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, any ideas on my pastebin ?06:57
gnomefreakjohndarkhorse, that hardware site is for all ubuntu releases?06:57
johndarkhorsegnomefreak: yes it was/is06:58
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I think the dependency issues are limited to tetex-bin but there are actually three tetex-* packages in dapper: -base, -bin, and -extra, that I will need06:58
gnomefreakjohndarkhorse, ok ty06:58
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paulproteus|laptElitePete: Can you read from it that sdl-devel is a problem?06:58
obsrvhello, I have trouble with Adept (KUbuntu). I can connect to internet ONLY trough a proxy, but I can't find where to set in Adept proxy server. With good old synaptic everything was ok. Any Ideas?06:58
paulproteus|laptI can read that, ElitePete, from the pastebin output.06:58
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Try doing it with tetex-bin.06:58
paulproteus|laptThe hard one first, for good measure. (-;06:58
ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, i see that.. how do i remove it?06:59
paulproteus|laptapt-get remove packagename06:59
ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, i get another error06:59
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ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616207:00
Xtraditequestion for anyone:  just installed gphoto2 via Add Apps but it didn't add it to the menu.  Any ideas on how to add it?07:00
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK, wait one, this may take a bit07:00
obsrvhow to configure apt-get to work with proxy?07:00
gnomefreakif on the burnt cd image the kernel moduales are missing is that a download issue or is that more of dapper being in devel?07:00
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paulproteus|laptElitePete: dpkg -r --force-depends packagename07:00
paulproteus|laptThat's a little harsher.07:00
phasegenogra_ibook, Dr_Willis, mjr, thank you very much.  That saved me 2 hours of downloading to get kstars.07:01
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ElitePetepaulproteus|lapt, how do i implement that cmd?07:01
paulproteus|laptYou type it.07:01
ElitePetei dont understand the syntax07:01
paulproteus|laptsudo dpkg -r sdl-devel07:01
ElitePeteok07:01
paulproteus|laptsudo dpkg -r --force-depends sdl-devel07:01
obsrvhow to configure apt-get to work with proxy?07:01
ElitePetepete@LinuxBox:~$ sudo dpkg -r libsdl1.2-dev07:02
ElitePetedpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libsdl1.2-dev which isn't installed.07:02
paulproteus|laptsudo dpkg -r --force-depends sdl-devel07:02
ElitePetewhat is this --force ?07:02
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paulproteus|laptElitePete: You don't have to use it.07:03
paulproteus|laptI'm just pre-empting a potential problem, where you dpkg complains it can't remove it because other packages *depend* on sdl-devel.07:03
paulproteus|laptBTW, where on *earth* did you get sdl-devel?07:03
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - there are unmet build dependencies flagged; here is the critical part of the output: http://pastebin.com/47846307:03
ElitePeteRemoving sdl-devel ...07:03
ElitePeteguess it worked07:03
ElitePeteumm..07:03
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ElitePetefrom apt-get07:03
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paulproteus|laptElitePete: Um, what sources do you have?07:03
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ElitePetemultiverse i belive07:03
Bree-CalifI believe that libxaw8-dev was renamed in dapper; I saw some reference to that last night when I was googling teTeX 307:04
paulproteus|laptElitePete: You shouldn't have gotten sdl-devel from multiverse.07:04
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Hmm, I see.07:04
zalaamhmm, anyone with a working ati gfx? i'm trying to get the fglrx driver to work07:04
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paulproteus|laptzalaam: It's fairly easy.07:04
paulproteus|lapt!ati07:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:04
KiraWhen I boot up the installation disc, how are the options "vga=771" and "linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false" different?07:05
ElitePetezalaam, i got mine working yesterday it's quiet easy07:05
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Let's go to packages.ubuntu.com/libxaw8-dev and see what it says.07:05
zalaampaulproteus|lapt: i can't get into X :(07:05
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moshehello07:05
zalaami guess i have to reinstall then, and try from the beginning again07:06
ElitePetezalaam, type this.07:06
ElitePetezalaam, no07:06
zalaamok07:06
johndarkhorsezalaam: there is no need to reinstall anything07:06
ElitePetesudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:06
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moshewould this be a good place to ask questions regarding apache on ubuntu?07:06
johndarkhorseubotu: tell zalaam about xcfg07:06
ElitePetezalaam, do that07:06
johndarkhorsemoshe: ask away07:06
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zalaami did that before X crashed07:06
mosheI just installed apache2 just to fiddle, and I put a public_html directory in my home folder.07:07
ElitePetezalaam, now do this07:07
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Try backporting tetex-base.07:07
paulproteus|laptIt seems to want tetex-base around before it installs.07:07
mosheI was able to see this folder in Firefox by viewing http://localhost/~moshe07:07
ElitePetezalaam, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:07
paulproteus|laptI mean, before it builds.07:07
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - libaxw8-dev is in hoary apparently07:07
mosheI put an index.html file in it, and now I get an access forbidden message07:07
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Right, let's just forget about that for now and deal with the ones we know how to solve.07:07
phreakyshello07:07
ElitePetethen during the setup select the fglrx driver07:07
zalaamElitePete: done07:07
phreakyscan some one tell me how to install a rpm package?07:07
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ElitePetezalaam, read up07:08
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Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - OK. tetex-base may take a while, if I remember correctly it's about 85MB07:08
johndarkhorsephreakys: what program are you after?07:08
paulproteus|laptphreakys: You almost certainly don't want to do that.07:08
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Okay.07:08
phreakysvmware tools07:08
deFryskphreakys, what package is it ?07:08
ElitePetezalaam, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:08
randabisphreakys07:08
ElitePetezalaam, and select the fglrx driver07:08
phreakysim running ubuntu under vmware07:08
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PuYbseUhello07:08
randabisphreakys: stick with .debs for ubuntu07:08
PuYbseUneed some networking help07:08
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deFryskphreakys, what package please07:08
johndarkhorsephreakys: are there no debs available?07:08
phreakyshm, need the rpm :/07:08
phreakysnope07:08
moshedoes anyone know what I need to do to get rid of the access forbidden msg?07:08
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deFryskphreakys, what package please!!07:09
phreakyscan i install .deb with apt-ge?07:09
deFrysktell us07:09
johndarkhorsedeFrysk: vmware07:09
zalaamElitePete: i've done that, and it doesnt work07:09
ElitePetezalaam, whats the problem ?07:09
cmathesondeFrysk: use dpkg07:09
phreakysah, tnx man07:09
zalaamx will not start07:09
phreakysthats the one07:09
phreakys:D07:09
ElitePetezalaam, whats the error07:09
deFrysktss07:09
cmatheson!tell zalaam about questions07:09
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johndarkhorseElitePete: do the dpkg-reconfigure and choose the VESA driver for now (you can change it later) but it should get you into X07:09
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johndarkhorsecrap07:09
johndarkhorsezalaam: see what i wrote above to ElitePete07:09
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KiraOH shit...07:10
paulproteus|laptKira: Eh?07:10
KiraI f'ed up my hard disk07:10
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - some time back I set up a local repository ~/debs -- I could download libaxw8-dev and do a dpkg-scansources to build a Sources.gz there ...07:10
KiraI removed the Ubuntu partitions07:10
ElitePetejohndarkhorse, i'm no expert, i was just trying to help him, i did what i told him to do yesterday and it worked for me i have an ati card :-)07:10
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: No.07:10
Kiraand now GRUB gives me error 2207:10
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paulproteus|laptDon't try to grab dependencies from anything but breezy and dapper.07:11
johndarkhorseElitePete: of course, the VESA option is failsafe, tho.07:11
ElitePetejohndarkhorse, i did not know that.07:11
ElitePete:-)07:11
Bree-CalifOK ... yeah, that sounded dicey even to me ...07:11
KiraAnyway to fix that?07:11
deFryskKira, you removed / ?07:11
cmathesonjohndarkhorse: well... almost.  it won't work at all for any older cards (non-vesa compliant)--vga is a safer bet generally07:11
Kiraya, I removed the ext2 and swap07:11
paulproteus|laptKira: Yeah, reinstall via the CD.07:12
paulproteus|laptKira: Do you what the system to boot?07:12
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paulproteus|laptWhat OS?07:12
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paulproteus|laptUbuntu?  That'd be hard without those partitions.07:12
deFryskKira, then there is nothing left to boot07:12
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: If the packages are really broken, the packages are really broken.  But I'm willing to bet they're not broken, just that your system isn't quite ready for the sanity of the dependencies to become apparent.07:12
johndarkhorsecmatheson: i've never owned a nonVESA compliant card (and i've had puters for a long long time)07:12
paulproteus|laptSo we'll do our best to satisfy the dependencies one by one, until you discover at the end that you've succeeded.07:12
paulproteus|lapt(Or failed, I supposed.)07:12
KiraI wanted to uninstall Ubuntu (wireless was not working like I wanted it to after 2 months).07:12
paulproteus|laptKira: Then what OS do you want to boot?07:13
cmathesonjohndarkhorse: i otoh have only two vesa-compliant cards (my voodoo and geforce)07:13
KiraWindows XP07:13
KiraIt was dual booted07:13
paulproteus|laptKira: You should read up about "fdisk /mbr"07:13
zalaamjohndarkhorse: oki, the error i get when starting x is: fglrx(0):incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelrated opengl will not work07:13
traehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=603211#post603211    <-- if someone has a moment to look at that please.07:13
paulproteus|laptThat's your ticket to a Windows-only boot record.07:13
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - thanks. That sounds like a plan.07:13
zalaamjohndarkhorse: gonna load the vesa now, brb07:13
Kiratough luck07:14
Bree-Calif... still downloading tetex-base ... I'm going to grab some coffee; brb07:14
Kiramy laptop doesn't have a floppy drive07:14
Kirano way I can get fdisk to run. >_<07:14
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ElitePeteKira, you can put fdisk on a cd can't you?07:14
obsrvhow to configure apt-get to work with proxy?07:14
KiraElitePete: yes but how to I make a bootable CD? I have no clue.07:14
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paulproteus|laptKira: The Windows CD usually boots to an emergency system, or has a repair option, or something.07:15
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: Google acquire+proxy+apt07:15
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cartesian1984how do you set up your desktop so that moving your mouse to one of the corners makes it hide all the windows or something mac-esque like that?07:15
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obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, what I found is export http_proxy\07:15
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obsrvbut it doesn't work07:15
muszekhi07:15
paulproteus|laptobsrv: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man5/apt.conf.5.html07:15
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ElitePeteKira, how big is your HD07:15
zalaamhmm, now i get the error "no screen found" when starting x07:15
Kira40GB07:15
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obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, is there any way to do in Adept?07:16
obsrvgraphicaly :)07:16
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cmathesonzalaam: how about you paste your xorg.conf?07:16
muszekhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/0XBayg58.html - any idea why the script wouldn't work?  executing these two commands by hand works ok07:16
johndarkhorseobsrv: i suspect you'll have to edit a config file07:16
paulproteus|laptobsrv: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg00077.html07:16
zalaamcmatheson: in this channel?07:16
paulproteus|laptI don't know about Adept, but Synaptic has an option for this.07:16
jgrievesthere seems to be quite a few NTFS writinng/reading drivers out there, any idea which one is the best?07:16
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paulproteus|laptjgrieves: Yes, the one based on FUSE from ntfsprogs.07:17
johndarkhorsejgrieves: writing to ntfs is unstable at best07:17
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, I know that Synaptic has an option :)07:17
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: Well, then just run Synaptic. (-:07:17
obsrvin Adept I can't find such option07:17
cmathesonzallam no, in the pastebin... see /topic07:17
paulproteus|laptIts configuration should stick to Adept, too.07:17
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt ty07:17
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, where can I get Synaptic with Kubuntu?07:17
zalaamroger, thank you07:17
paulproteus|laptobsrv: apt-get install synaptic07:17
johndarkhorseobsrv: install it, using the konsole07:17
obsrvsince I can't run apt-get :)07:17
paulproteus|laptOh, wait, you need apt-get working...07:17
paulproteus|laptobsrv: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg00077.html07:17
jgrieveshttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ ?07:17
ciner_Merry Xmass07:17
Kiraheh, for the next release, I think it would be wise to display a warning message when the user tries to delete a partition07:18
obsrvI have no /etc/apt/apt.conf07:18
paulproteus|laptjgrieves: captive is old and unmaintained.07:18
ElitePeteKira, i'm trying to find you something07:18
johndarkhorseobsrv: it's easy to adjust your config files, the export http_proxy goes in your ~/.bashrc07:18
paulproteus|laptobsrv: Then make it.07:18
Kiraand tell them to read up on fdisk /mbr. :P07:18
johndarkhorseobsrv: if you have no apt.conf, make one07:18
obsrvjohndarkhorse, I exported http_proxy as a normal user. It didn't helped07:18
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt oh sorry, that came up with FUSE07:18
ElitePeteKira, do you have any floppy fdisks? and another pc07:18
obsrvI can't export http_Proxy as root, I get an error07:18
paulproteus|laptjgrieves: Ah, okay.07:18
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zalaamcmatheson: how do i do that without x? will it work using a text web browser?07:18
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: Please, follow my instructions.07:18
obsrvok07:18
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt linux-ntfs project?07:18
johndarkhorseobsrv: no, because apt is run via superusers only07:19
paulproteus|laptjgrieves: That's the one.07:19
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jgrievespaulproteus|lapt ty,07:19
muszekhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/0XBayg58.html - any idea why the script wouldn't work?  executing these two commands by hand works ok07:19
ElitePeteKira, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/07:19
ElitePetecan you burn that onto a cd?07:19
ElitePeteuse alcohol 120%07:19
traeanyone know anything about playing avi sound under Ubuntu?  I'm getting a screechy sound when trying to play avi's.  (video is ok)  [I can play mp3's/ogg's just fine] 07:19
Kiraok, let me grab that after lunch07:19
Kirathanks07:19
paulproteus|laptmuszek: Does it file for unemployment?07:19
paulproteus|laptmuszek: How precisely does it not work?  Does it give you error messages?07:19
Hoxzercan I buy just any bluetooth adabter I want to my PC to use it in linux?07:20
cmathesonzalaam: zalaam yeah, use links or something07:20
ElitePeteKira, no problem it has XFDISK should fix you up07:20
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt looks like ntfstools is in repositories07:20
muszekpaulproteus|lapt: no, no error messages... the networking just doesn't start to work... it echoes that 2nd line, though07:20
zalaamcmatheson: thanks, sudo apt-get install links?07:20
burning_bronxHoxzer, have you tried to google for linux bluetooth ?07:20
burning_bronx>.>07:20
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt better to build from source for latest? or is that one as stable as i'll get?07:20
burning_bronx<.<07:20
johndarkhorsezalaam: yes.07:20
cmathesonzalaam: yeah07:20
obsrvhow can I become a superuser in Kubuntu? I have not specifed a password for it07:21
HoxzerBUrning: no, but I tried to ask in irc about it07:21
obsrvbut I get request for it07:21
paulproteus|laptjgrieves: If it were me, I'd backport from Dapper.07:21
muszekobsrv: sudo su07:21
cmatheson!tell obsrv about sudo07:21
obsrvI know about sudo07:21
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt not a bad idea07:21
eZtaRIs the extra repositories down? Because i can't get gstream-plugins :(07:21
obsrvbut using sudo some functions are disabled07:21
obsrvI need to get superuser rights07:21
obsrvwith su for example07:21
muszekobsrv: in console, just type sudo su and give your regular password...07:21
burning_bronxHoxzer, http://tuxmobil.org/bluetooth_linux.html07:21
obsrvBut I don't know the pass07:21
burning_bronx>.>07:21
cmathesonobsrv: no... tehy're not07:21
johndarkhorseobsrv: using sudo gets you ALL the powers of a superuser07:21
burning_bronxnext time google it.07:22
paulproteus|laptobsrv: It's your password.07:22
traeSeveas, it's me, your most favorite #ubuntu person "occy"  heh07:22
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ElitePeteKira, might want to look at this http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php07:22
traeSeveas, know anything about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10822007:22
ciner_try use   sudo bash07:22
Hoxzer"As many Bluetooth devices present themselves as a serial device, there is usually no special driver needed."07:22
obsrvjohndarkhorse, using sudo export it says that there is no such program export :)07:22
HoxzerOk, I see07:22
paulproteus|laptobsrv: Did you try mine?07:22
obsrvusing su says that Authentication failure07:22
paulproteus|laptapt.conf and all that?07:22
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, yes07:22
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johndarkhorseobsrv: edit (or make) an apt.conf in the appropriate directory and add those lines to it07:22
obsrvnow package manager doesn't run :)07:22
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I've been dumb, I forgot how big /tmp was - or wasn't. I'm going to have to do this in ~ instead ... starting over on tetex-base :(07:23
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johndarkhorseobsrv: you'll have to use sudo to write to that directory07:23
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Sorry to hear that.07:23
jgrievespaulproteus|lapt gui frontend do this?07:23
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Wait.07:23
Bree-CalifOK07:23
KTheRootIs there any boot cd`s i could use to install any OS`s over lan? Its not possible to use the ubuntu boot-cd to install something else than ubuntu right?07:23
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Move the directory over to ~ , and then restart via "apt-get -b source tetex-base"07:23
paulproteus|laptThen you won't have to redownload the files.07:23
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gnomefreakhow do i find drivers for nic to write to 3.5?07:24
gnomefreakfloppy even07:24
paulproteus|laptgnomefreak: ?07:24
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paulproteus|laptOh, floppy.07:24
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paulproteus|laptFor NIC?07:24
gnomefreakmy nic drivers07:24
gnomefreakyes07:24
paulproteus|laptYour NIC is probably supported.07:24
Hikaru79How stable is breezy-backports nowadays? Would using some packages from it bring eternal damnation upon my soul?07:24
traegnomefreak, mtools?07:24
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gnomefreaknot in dapper its not :(07:24
AesopMorning all.07:24
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - will do; that should save time07:24
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, when I create apt.conf and write those lines to it I get: Syntax error: Extra junk at end of file07:24
obsrvwhen I run apt-get07:24
paulproteus|laptobsrv: Well, pastebin your apt.conf.07:24
traegnomefreak, I haven't used mtools in like forever.07:24
paulproteus|laptObviously, you got the syntax wrong.07:25
AesopHey, anyone know how to setup dual monitors on a NVidia Geforce 6600? Not getting anyhting out the DVI07:25
gnomefreakim installing mtools now07:25
gnomefreakty07:25
traegnomefreak, good luck..07:25
gnomefreakthanks :))07:25
traegnomefreak, I think you do something like mcopy a:07:25
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traeor some junk07:25
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obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, I will paste what I get. One moment07:25
zalaamhmm, how do i copy the text in xorg.conf, i need to paste it in links07:25
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: No, pastebin your apt.conf, not the error message.07:26
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traegnomefreak, know anything about playing avi's?  heh </broken_record>07:26
golehow would one boot the live cd on a VIA C3 processor07:26
gnomefreaknope sorry i dont :(07:26
eZtaRAnyone with working gstream-plugins help?07:26
traegnomefreak, np ;)07:26
obsrvAcquire::http::Proxy "http://user:pass@192.X.X.X:8080";07:26
obsrvapt.conf is uno line07:26
obsrvthis with Acquire::... :)07:26
NevisI'm trying to install 5.10 and failing. :-)07:26
Nevisanyone wanna try and help me guess what I'm doing wrong?07:26
paulproteus|laptobsrv: What's your proxy?07:26
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obsrv192.168.0.107:27
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: You have to put *your* proxy information between the quotes.07:27
obsrvyes I know :)07:27
eZtaRW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:27
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obsrvi have put it07:27
eZtaRhelp?07:27
obsrvyou see I'm working with two PCs07:27
obsrvone is without internet connection07:27
ThndrShk2kIs there anything i can do to make ubuntu boot correctly into my LCD monitor?07:27
Evil_Whisperargh aterm is bad for irssi :(07:27
obsrv(KUbuntu)07:27
obsrvand I'm wrinting from Gentoo :)07:27
ubuntuhow do i install a package in ubuntu?07:27
paulproteus|laptobsrv: I'm so sorry. (-;07:27
gnomefreakeZtaR, mirrormax backports havent worked in a while07:27
ThndrShk2kThe screenstarts about 1/8 - 1/4 away from the left side07:27
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ThndrShk2kand ends about the same amount past my right side07:28
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, why? :) no sorry is needed07:28
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obsrvI will paste my errors07:28
eZtaRgnomefreak, are there other backports that do?07:28
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eZtaRgnomefreak, and can i have the url? :p07:28
gnomefreakeZtaR, your on hoary?07:28
ubuntuim trying to compile quake 3 arena in ubuntu, but dont know how, anyone can help?07:28
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eZtaRgnomefreak, Yup07:29
gnomefreak!sources07:29
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:29
gnomefreakgo to the last link and use that07:29
gnomefreaki dont think the hoary link has backports07:29
rosenAnyone had experience getting Logitechs MX1000 laser mouse-buttons to work ? .. I mean adding the extra buttons ?07:29
eZtaRThanks gnomefreak07:29
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616307:29
gnomefreakyw eZtaR07:30
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I've got to be afk for a minute or two here ... brb07:30
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paulproteus|laptBree-Calif-afk: Okay, good luck.07:30
topdeckif I can see a device listed in 'lsusb' can I mount it with just that information?07:30
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: The last line says what to do.07:30
paulproteus|lapt W:Youmaywanttorunapt-getupdatetocorrecttheseproblems07:30
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obsrvyes :) i't currently doing it07:30
paulproteus|laptobsrv: I suggest you read the output before pastebinning next time. (-:07:31
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paulproteus|laptOkay.07:31
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, sorry very much :)07:31
obsrvmerry christmas07:31
obsrvand thank you for you time07:31
eZtaRArgh now i don't remember where the sources.list is :p07:31
paulproteus|laptobsrv: Did it work? (-:07:31
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paulproteus|lapteZtaR: /etc/apt/sources.list07:31
eZtaRThanks :p07:31
paulproteus|lapteZtaR: Try 'locate sources.list'07:31
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smi|eeZtaR should be /etc/apt/sources.list07:32
obsrvpaulproteus|lapt, it seems it did07:32
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paulproteus|laptobsrv: Good, glad to hear it.07:32
obsrvit wrote another one line error abou GPG keys or smth07:32
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keikozhi all07:33
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smi|eHello keikoz need any help?07:33
johndarkhorseobsrv: if you visit kubuntu.org you'll find the gpg key to add to your ring07:33
smi|ezalaam- is there any need for the clones?07:33
NevisI need help! :-)07:33
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smi|eNevis, whatsup07:33
Nevisall's good. thanks, and you?07:33
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NevisI'm trying to install ubuntu 5.1007:34
smi|eim fine, what can i help you with?07:34
keikozsmi|e nope, i'm just here to see if i can't myself help other peoples07:34
smi|eright, and07:34
eZtaRHow do i update from hoary to breezy painlessly?07:34
NevisI have a 80gb hd with two primary partitions of roughly 40 gig each07:34
Nevisboth ntfs07:34
Nevisc is the boot partition.07:34
smi|eubotu tell eZtaR about Breezy07:34
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Evil_Whisper:-\07:34
Nevisnow, what I did was take out partition magic and resize the "D:" a little,07:35
Nevisso now I have 7 gigs free at the end of the drive.07:35
smi|eWhy not go all "Ubuntu"07:35
smi|e?07:35
Neviswhich should be enough. I need linux for somthing specific, and most of the time I use win.07:35
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eZtaRthanks smi|e07:35
smi|eeZtaR did that answer your question?07:35
smi|eOkay No Problem eZtaR07:35
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NevisGradually, smile, gradually. :-)07:35
zalaam-smi|e: hmm, my x is working now so i don't now how to quit the other irssi ;P07:35
Nevisanyway, I d/led the .iso with bitorrent and burnt it.07:35
NevisNow, I decided to install after trying LiveCD and loving it.07:36
smi|ezalaam, kill the process ;)07:36
Nevislivecd worked so nice.07:36
Nevisbut...07:36
Nevisthe installer hangs saying "setting up main installation repository" or somthing like that.07:37
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NevisIt's pretty late in the installation sequence, IMO, after choosing the time zone etc.07:37
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NevisNow, I guess it could be one of two things.07:37
keikozNevis that can come from a bad burning process or bad image07:37
NevisEither my installation CD is bad.07:37
keikoz(iso)07:37
Nevis:-)07:37
smi|eNevis I'm not too good on this self myself, hang around and someone might be able to help aswell.07:37
idefixwhy won't my ubuntu mount my floppy?07:37
Nevisdoes anyone know if there are special requirments for the installation partition?07:38
NevisShould it be primary? Logical?07:38
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell Nevis about verify07:38
keikoznope07:38
Nevisoh, cool.07:38
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johndarkhorseNevis: either way07:38
keikozyou can install it either on a primary or logical partition07:38
Evil_Whisperhi guys07:38
mtnNevis, sounds like no connection to internet when trying to setup repositories07:38
ossiehi and merry xmas07:38
Evil_WhisperHow can I tell how much swap I should have?07:38
Nevisthanks07:39
Dr_Willishow much ram ya got. what tasks you going to do.07:39
Nevisbut it sets up dhcp successfuly, or so it claims.07:39
AesopHey, can anyone help me setup a dual-head config? Already went throught the Xinerama Howto on the Wiki07:39
Evil_Whisper512mb and pretty much stuff like programming, gaming etc.07:39
NevisI'm runing internet through a home router.07:39
Nevisshould work.07:39
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  Id toss on 512mb at least.. perpahs 1 gb.07:39
mtnNevis, yes it should, must be some other issue07:40
Evil_WhisperI've got 1.5 right now but wine eats it all :(07:40
AesopEvil_Whisper: Your little comment on a thread is what let me get my new card working, thanks. ^^07:40
Dr_Williswell wine can be nasty...07:40
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gnomefreakok another stupid question what path would i find the NIC drivers?07:40
Evil_WhisperYou welcome aesop :-)07:40
Neviswould this verify thing work under windows?07:40
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Evil_WhisperDr_Willis: Is there some way I can make wine stop eating all 1.5gb?07:40
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  ive never noticed wine (cedega) taking up that much to be honest.07:41
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freak4pcSOS :D07:41
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  what are you running with wine anyway07:41
Evil_WhisperSteam, but it happens with anything07:41
freak4pci can see hebrew in GAIM etc etc... but in X-Chat i cant see hebrew07:41
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ardchoillehow do I make it so a bash script is run when I double-click it in nautilus?07:42
freak4pcand second question , where can i get respositories so i can download things in apt-get?07:42
johndarkhorseNevis: yes it will07:42
Evil_WhisperI ran wine file like 5 minutes ago and the gnome system monitor shows wine-preloader taking 1.5GB07:42
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - I'm running into something I don't understand (there's a surprise, eh) ... http://pastebin.com/47850007:42
smi|efreak4pc well try install some language packs?07:42
freak4pcbut its only on X-Chat... how come?07:42
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  it will release it when somtning else asks for it - is my guess07:42
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: patch: **** write error : No space left on device07:42
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paulproteus|laptOuch. (-:07:42
johndarkhorseNevis: use this under windows http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/07:42
smi|efreak4pc totally different APPS,07:42
freak4pci dont understand... :|07:42
smi|e!irssi07:42
ubotufrom memory, irssi is http://f0rked.com/core/irssi07:42
smi|euse irssi07:42
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - that's got to be an error. I believed it on /tmp, but I have about 60GB free on /home07:43
freak4pcill look07:43
Evil_WhisperDr_Willis: Hmm.. Ive been having problems with steam freezing up like crazy :( I thought it might be somthing to do with the swap07:43
freak4pcabout repositories07:43
freak4pcwhere can i add ?07:43
freak4pchow07:43
ossiecan anyone tell me how to rescan for new hardware07:43
smi|efreak4pc /etc/apt/sources.list07:43
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  steam and HL2 - ICK....    I dont even touch that.. :P07:43
freak4pc... because now i cant download anything07:43
Evil_Whisper0.9.3 used to work perfect07:43
freak4pcyes but when do i change in it? :D07:43
paulproteus|laptossie: /etc/init.d/hotplug restart07:43
smi|eubotu tell freak4pc about repositories07:43
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  ive had such issues with cedega/wine and games - i dont even bother any more07:43
smi|eBe Back Later07:43
ossiethank you paulproteus|lapt07:43
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Evil_WhisperDr_Willis: 0.9.4 segfaults steam :(07:44
godzukiI'm having a crazy issue with an ext3 drive07:44
AesopHeh, nevermind on the dual-head question07:44
bnDcan someone point me toward updating xchat to 2.6?07:44
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ossiepaulproteus|lapt, would this detect a pci card i have changes position of????07:44
Evil_WhisperbnD: enable backports its in there07:44
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  you may havbe better luck with cedega. but i havent tried HL2/Steam uinder it either..07:44
freak4pc!easysource07:44
ubotuI guess easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:44
bnDEvil_Whisper, thanks :)07:44
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paulproteus|laptbnD: It's in backports.07:44
bnDpaulproteus|lapt, thanks07:45
Evil_WhisperYour welcome bnD07:45
Evil_WhisperDr_Willis: I can't even get steam to start with CVSCedega :(07:45
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  Bummer.07:45
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smi|e[06:44]  *** LimitServ sets mode: +l 1807:46
smi|e[06:45]  *** LimitServ sets mode: +l 1807:46
AesopHrm07:46
AesopWhats the command to access the Nvidia driver config?07:46
Evil_WhisperDr_Willis: The only two games I ever play are CS 1.6 and CS:S :(07:46
Evil_WhisperAesop: try nvidia-settings07:46
ossiepaulproteus|lapt, would this detect a pci card i have changes position of????07:46
AesopThats it07:46
Nevisjohndarkhorse - can I run somthing similar on <*gulp*> windows?07:46
Evil_WhisperAesop: You have to apt-get it first though :-)07:46
johndarkhorseNevis: i sent you a link07:46
johndarkhorseNevis: here it comes again07:46
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johndarkhorseNevis: use this under windows http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/07:46
Nevisthanks07:46
Evil_Whisperbe right back07:47
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freak4pchow do i compile? :|07:49
freak4pcfirst ./configure07:49
freak4pcthen ./make clean07:49
freak4pcthen ./make07:49
freak4pc?07:49
kemikconfigure07:49
kemikmake07:49
kemikmake install07:49
kemik*done*07:49
freak4pck07:49
Sionidegah07:49
Sionidenoo07:49
Sionidecheckinstall07:49
Sionideauto-apt07:49
freak4pcconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH07:49
freak4pcSee `config.log' for more details.07:49
freak4pcwtf... ? :D07:49
Evil_Whisperbe right back moving over to xfce4-terminal07:49
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kemikfreak4pc:  sudo apt-get install build-essential07:50
Sionidefreak4pc, sudo apt-get install build-essential07:50
keikozfreak4pc did you installed gcc ?07:50
trae!automatix07:50
ubotusomebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!07:50
Sionidedamn too slow! lol07:50
freak4pckeikoz, i dunno how .. i thought its a default on ubuntu07:50
Sionideomg ubotu hates automatix as well?!07:50
keikoznope07:50
traeheh07:50
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Sionidefreak4pc, sudo apt-get install build-essential07:50
Sionidedo that07:50
Sionidethat will install gcc07:50
freak4pcwhere's the pastebin?07:51
freak4pc!pastebin07:51
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:51
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ossieguys hwo can i detect a  pci card that i have moved up a slot, it isnt detected now07:51
traeSionide, :)  I was just checking to see if I should install it.  (having audio problems with avi)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10822007:51
Evil_Whisperah thats better :p07:51
Neviswell, the md5 checks okay07:51
paulproteus|laptossie: I think it's probably not seated correctly.07:51
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johndarkhorseNevis: then burn it as slowly as you can07:52
paulproteus|laptossie: I suggest you check lspci, which will tell you for sure if your computer sees the PCI device.07:52
lwsWhat's the deal with the iptables package?  Why are there no boot scripts for loading configs?07:52
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freak4pcguyz07:52
bulioI can't see any icons in the systray07:52
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buliolike near the date07:52
bulioI see blank, but things are there07:52
freak4pcSionide, it doesnt work  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616407:52
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Nevisokay. i'm going to try again. wish me luck07:53
ossieu rekon paulproteus|lapt , ok cheers, dont see it listed in lspci, will reboot and corect ,cheers m807:53
freak4pci think my repositories aren't good...07:53
freak4pc:|07:53
Nevisthanks07:53
Bree-Califpaulproteus|lapt - There is plenty of space on /home; that error message "No space left on device" is incorrect. Any thoughts ... ? This doesn't make sense to me ...07:53
Sionidefreak4pc, that's odd :s07:53
idefixiterative was the opposite of recursive?07:53
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Well, uh....07:53
freak4pcSionide, no shit sherlock? :D07:53
chombeehello. I'm running the Breezy LiveCD, hopefully about to do an install, looking in the Disks Manager I see 3 hard disks, are the two extra ones in fact fakes created by the Live system? I think this machine only has one disk, but it's SATA, so I'm hoping no RAID stuff is going on07:53
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paulproteus|laptmkdir /home/username/backporting/ and try again there...?07:53
Bree-CalifOK, will do07:54
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: let us be respectful with our language choices, please07:54
Evil_WhisperHow often does CVS Cedega get updated?07:54
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: Also, free up the space in /tmp/ .07:54
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, sorry excust me :P07:54
Sionidefreak4pc, no clue why that's happened, sorry..07:54
Bree-CalifOK, I'm on it ...07:54
Spee_DerI have a question that I can not find an answer for after extensive reading.07:54
bulioI can't see any icons in the systray07:54
bulioI see blank, but things are there07:54
bulioany idea why?07:54
freak4pcSionide, do you no maybe where can i get new repositories , maybe thatll do the trick?07:54
johndarkhorsepaulproteus|lapt: can you and Bree-Calif take your compiling to #ubuntu-offtopic please? it's quieter there07:54
freak4pcubotu tell freak4pc about repositories07:54
johndarkhorseubotu: tell freak4pc about sources07:54
freak4pc:P07:55
paulproteus|laptjohndarkhorse: It's not really offtopic, but it could be considered flood.07:55
Spee_DerMy keyboard keeps going to sleep, and the lights keep blinking. No matter what I do, the keyboard will not wake up. How do I re-configure to prevent this from happening please.07:55
paulproteus|laptBree-Calif: If you have anything more, feel free to have me join you in #flood, I guess.07:55
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johndarkhorsepaulproteus|lapt: it's an intensive discussion that would probably better fit in a not-so-populated channel07:55
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, which file do i edit? where is the sources.list located?07:55
paulproteus|laptjohndarkhorse: /me nods07:55
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Bree-CalifI'm OK with that, paulproteus|lapt -- and sorry for cluttering the chan, johndarkhorse07:55
Spee_DerOtherwise all else is fine, including the mouse and video.07:55
Sionidefreak4pc,07:55
Sionides07:55
Sionidefreak4pc :P07:55
Sionidepaulproteus|lapt johndarkhorse: It's not really of07:55
Sionideoops07:55
chombeeThe two extra hard disks are:  /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot and tmpfs. Created by the live system, or real disks?07:55
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Sionidehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616507:55
freak4pc.07:55
Sionidefreak4pc, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:56
johndarkhorseubotu: tell freak4pc about repos07:56
godzukianybody here know of any bugs with ubuntu and ext3?07:56
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freak4pcSionide, thx07:56
godzukiI'm trying to mount this ext3 drive07:56
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freak4pcjohndarkhorse, thx07:56
godzukibut it won't give me read/write07:56
Sionideput that in, that's my repos07:56
godzukiand I can't change permissions07:56
Evil_Whispergodzuki: EXT3 is the default file system as far as I know07:56
godzukidespite being root07:56
ubuntu_hello07:56
freak4pcSionide, i found two sources.list07:56
Spee_DerHello unbuntu_07:56
freak4pcshould i use the one u gave me?07:56
godzukiwell, I'm root, and it won't let me change pemissions07:56
Evil_Whispergodzuki: what happens when you type sudo -s07:56
Sionideyeah use mine freak4pc07:56
Evil_Whispergodzuki: and then try it07:56
godzukiit puts me as root07:56
freak4pcthank q07:56
godzukiI know how to be root.07:56
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Evil_Whispergodzuki: what area are you trying to chmod?07:57
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godzukia -R07:57
odathi everyone07:57
Spee_DerHello odat.07:57
johndarkhorsegodzuki: use sudo, the root account is disabled in ubuntu (and enabling it causes problems, too)07:57
odatanyone else get jerky playback with gstreamer and totem?07:57
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chombeethe two extra devices are mounted as root, and the other has no partitions07:57
godzukiI did it with sudo first.07:57
Evil_Whisperuse chmod -R <mode> file07:57
johndarkhorseubotu: tell odat about dma07:57
godzukiyeah I've been doing that07:57
chombeewell i suppose i could look in the BIOS07:57
Evil_Whispergodzuki: any errors?07:57
godzukiyeah07:57
godzukiit scrolls the name of every file07:58
MalachaiAny idea why my clock is out of sinc? I'm using Ubuntu on VMWare.07:58
godzukiand says ":read only file system"07:58
godzukiat the end of the line07:58
freak4pcSionide, after i save i need to apt-get update?07:58
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godzukiand doesn't make any changes07:58
Spee_Derwb unbuntu07:58
Sionidefreak4pc, yes07:58
Evil_Whispergodzuki: What disk are you trying to do it off of?07:58
freak4pck07:58
Sionideand probably do apt-get upgrade as well07:58
godzukiit's /dev/hdd107:58
freak4pcIgn means he ignores files?07:58
Spee_Derbrb, need more cold beer.07:58
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Trymhi07:58
godzukiand it's mounted at /media/brick07:58
Spee_DerHi Trym... brb07:58
godzukithis is kubuntu btw, and I'm afraid that my original use of the kde disk manager has mucked something up07:59
freak4pcit has alot of errors :\07:59
freak4pc##deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted07:59
freak4pcdeb file::///mnt/breezyiso breezy main restricted07:59
freak4pcdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted07:59
freak4pcdeb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted07:59
freak4pc## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the07:59
freak4pc## distribution.07:59
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: Ign means your file is the same as the remote file, so it's not necessaryto d/l07:59
freak4pcdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted07:59
godzukiI should have just done the fstab myself07:59
freak4pcdeb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted07:59
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Evil_Whispergodzuki: Wich are you chmoding /media/brick or /dev/hdd?07:59
Sionidepastebin that shi....07:59
Sionideoh07:59
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Sionide:P07:59
godzukiI'm doing this: sudo chmod 775 -R /media/brick07:59
Trymis there somebody who knows how to set up an ADSL Internet connection via ethernet modem on Ubuntu?08:00
Sionidewhy ban him?08:00
Sionidehe was using pastebin before...08:00
godzukiI think my fstab may be wrong at this point, since I've messed with it so much08:00
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Thats a possibility.08:00
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chombeeOkay... I want to resize an NTFS partition from the Breezy LiveCD... I just tried it in GParted, it gave no error, but it still says the partition is the original size08:01
Evil_Whispergodzuki: cat /etc/fstab and pastebin it :)08:01
Kiraok, the ultimate boot disc has been burned08:01
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ElitePeteKira, ok now load it up and try to find XFDISK and you should be able to fix the MBR08:02
godzuki# /etc/fstab: static file system information.08:02
godzuki#08:02
godzuki# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>08:02
idefixwhy can't you open files in the /bin directory?08:02
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godzukiproc /proc proc defaults 0 008:02
godzuki/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 108:02
Trymbye08:02
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godzuki/dev/hdc1 /boot ext3 defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 208:02
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Evil_Whispergodzuki: !pastebin08:03
johndarkhorsegodzuki: please read the /topic (and dont paste in here)08:03
godzukiyeah08:03
godzukiI thought I was doing what he said08:03
Evil_Whisper!pastebin08:03
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:03
Evil_Whisperuse that godzuki08:03
godzukisorry everyone08:03
Evil_Whisperand send the link08:03
chombeeDo I need to install something before I can resize NTFS partitions?08:03
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KiraElitePete: ok, I'm in XFDISK now08:04
ElitePeteKira, do you see an option to fix mbr ?08:04
Evil_Whispergodzuki: got the link?08:04
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godzukihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616608:04
godzukithere it is08:04
godzukiif I did that right.08:05
KiraElitePete: no08:05
gnomefreakduring dapper install from disk it asks for a http server that has dapper do they mean the main repo or do they mean wher ei got the download from?08:05
Evil_Whispergodzuki: I'll have a look08:05
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KiraWhat does "Install Bootmanager" do?08:05
ElitePeteKira, thats probably what you want. so you can select the OS"s08:06
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Try unmounting it and remounting it08:06
chombeeDoes anyone know if Ubuntu is capable of resizing NTFS partitions? Because it doesn't seem to work08:07
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Deterministchombee, i dont think so mate08:07
godzukiwrong fst type or bad superblock something something....08:07
gnomefreakchombee, the install disk will wont it?08:07
Evil_Whispergodzuki: EEK i'll see if I can figure it out08:07
chombeewhat about the installer? I have seen it with a resize windows partition and install ubuntu option08:07
gnomefreakor even gparted08:08
chombeegnomefreak - I keep trying with GParted but it has no effect08:08
godzukiEvil_Whisper: I init 3 ed a while ago, I'm gonna reboot real fast.08:08
godzukibrb08:08
gnomefreakchombee,  the install disk should do it08:08
KiraDo I need to "Save Configuration"?08:08
chombeegnomefreak - on this computer, the installer didn't give me that option, but I guess I could try doing it with advanced partitioning08:08
burning_bronxgnomefreak, d'ya installeth the dapper yet?08:08
Evil_Whispergodzuki: ok08:09
gnomefreakburning_bronx,  its all messed up08:09
ElitePeteKira, yes08:09
burning_bronxwhat's messed up?08:09
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Kiracrap08:09
gnomefreakburning_bronx, it errors that kernel mods cant be found, than nic card isnt detected than it asks for a server and im not sure what server they want :(08:09
Kirait says unable to find cylinder08:09
burning_bronx>.>08:10
Sionidelook how many 500's he has08:10
Sionideoops08:10
Sionidewrong "window"08:10
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ElitePeteKira, hmm.. i dunno what that means08:10
ElitePeteKira, try SFDISK its on their also,08:10
flodinecan someone tell me how to start a program when openbox start?08:10
flodinei need to start on login08:11
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ElitePeteKira, the problem is you can't boot xp right?08:11
chombeeflodine - you have to add the program to your .xsession file, and openbox has to be the default window manager in gdm, see openbox page on wiki08:11
moshewhich config file need I edit to enable userdirs?08:11
KiraThere's also this tool called "MBR work"08:12
moshein apache, I mean08:12
KiraElitePete: yes08:12
ElitePeteKira, you can try that08:12
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burning_bronxflodine, just go to http://fluxbox-wiki.org/08:12
burning_bronxit has it all.08:12
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chombeegnomefreak - Why would the installer be able to resize NTFS, but GParted not? Isn't it suspicious?08:13
chombeegnomefreak - or is the installer built with something that ubuntu isn't?08:13
burn`bathit is suspicious as gparted is based on parted (the installer's partitioner)08:13
gnomefreakchombee, the installer doesnt use gparted i wanna say and not real sure but it uses fdisk08:13
ElitePeteKira, what windows cd do you have?08:13
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burn`bathgnomefreak, it uses parted and gparted is a gui for parted >.>08:13
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gnomefreakahhhhhh08:14
gnomefreakthat is weird than :(08:14
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godzukiEvil_Whisper: ok back08:14
chombeegnomefreak - because the installer also didn't give me the resize option in guided partitioning... I'm wondering if it's gonna work08:14
burn`bathyou can't resize ntfs from parted08:14
burn`bathload windows and resize with partition magic or something08:14
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chombeeburn`bath - so how does the installer do it? Normally it does it08:15
burn`bathit resizes ntfs?08:15
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johndarkhorseburn`bath: you can use g- or qt- parted to work with ntfs partitions08:15
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Ok08:15
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Have you been able to remount it?08:16
burn`bath...08:16
godzukiyeah, I changed fstab arount08:16
godzukinow I can08:16
chombeeburn`bath - with breezy, the installer got a new option to resize ntfs partitions and do a dual-boot install, but on this machine it didn't give me that option08:16
burn`batho_O;08:16
Evil_Whispergodzuki: ok good now try to chmod it =P08:16
burn`bathdon't know I only resize ntfs from linux by using ntfsresize08:16
godzukinope08:16
KiraElitePete: I'm now asked to install to HD Boot Sector or MBR. Do I choose MBR?08:16
godzukisame issue08:16
burn`bathwhich is a part of ntfsprogs package08:16
chombeejohndarkhorse - do you know if some extra package has to be installed? Whenever I resize an ntfs partition nothing happens08:16
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ElitePeteKira, MBR i believe08:17
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Evil_Whispergodzuki: try to chmod just one file08:17
Kiracool08:17
chombeeburn`bath - is ntfs resize safe?08:17
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burn`bathjust as any other resizing util08:17
godzukiI think maybe I messed up my sudoers or something08:17
godzukiI had su problems before in kubuntu08:17
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KiraYAY!08:18
KiraIt's booting~!08:18
ElitePete:-D08:18
gnomefreaki would say so su isnt used by default in ubuntu-kubuntu08:18
Evil_Whispergodzuki: try checking your sudoers file08:18
ElitePeteKira, good job !08:18
chombeeburn`bath - so it's not 'experimental' or anything, like writing ntfs is?08:18
obsrvhow to get Firefox 1.5 on Kubuntu? It seems that there is only 1.0.708:18
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godzukinope, I can't even do that08:18
paalsorry, i never learn, what is the command to install a deb package? someone got a good way to remeber it?08:18
ElitePeteKira, how did it break in the first place?08:18
johndarkhorseubotu: tell obsrv about firefox1508:18
burn`batheverything in linux related to ntfs is more or less experimental but the ntfsprogs are more or less sage08:18
godzukiEvil_Whisper: would you like to see my sudoers file?08:18
burn`bath>.>08:18
burn`bath*safe08:18
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Sure pastebin it08:18
johndarkhorsephreak97: please use a pastebin08:18
KiraI wanted to uninstall Ubuntu because I needed the space08:19
johndarkhorseubotu: tell paal about deb08:19
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ElitePeteKira, UNINSTALL UBUNTU? how dare you!08:19
burn`bathpaal "dpkg -i package_name.deb"08:19
Sh4d0xseveas, can ubuntu write ntfs?08:19
Kiraso I just booted up the ubuntu install CD and deleted the ext2 and swap partitions08:19
borubotu: tell rob about firefox1508:19
chombeeshouldn't there be a HOW-TO somewhere for resizing NTFS partitions?08:19
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ElitePeteKira, thats not a good idea :-(08:19
KiraI had no clue that GRUB needed those partitions to run properly.08:19
johndarkhorseSh4d0x: it is unstable at best for linux to write to ntfs08:19
SeveasSh4d0x, pnly eith ntfsprogs from dapper and totally unsupported08:19
godzukiEvil_Whisper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616708:19
rosenAny good apps to surfe internet-radios and get them streamed ?08:19
ElitePeterosen, client or server08:20
Seveasrosen, beep-media-player08:20
Sh4d0xSeveas ah k, thnx08:20
rosenElitePete, client08:20
ElitePeterosen, XMMS works perfectly with shoutcast08:20
burn`bathchances are - you write ntfs - you toast your ntfs ~_~08:20
Sh4d0xrosen, amarok08:20
Madeyeguys, I'm trying to make my ubuntu looks blue, I've changed the background, GDM login, splash, and usplash to blue based, there is only brown background remaining which appear after  login and the splash appear any idea how to chnange it ?08:20
ElitePeterosen, listening to my favorite right now08:20
johndarkhorsechombee: use g- or qt- parted, it's self-explanatory08:20
SeveasSh4d0x, I have backported that one in my repo ;)08:20
rosenoh dear ... so many to choose from08:20
ElitePeterosen, XMMS08:20
Seveasforgetr xmms08:20
Evil_Whispergodzuki:08:20
ElitePeteXMMS!08:20
Seveasit's old'n'ugly08:20
Sh4d0xSeveas :D nice08:20
Seveasbeep-media-player is the way to go08:20
burn`bathbmp = xmms with gtk208:20
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Your file is diffrent then mine08:20
chombeejohndarkhorse - I have been trying GParted, it goes ahead and resizes the partition, doesn't give any errors, but afterwards the pertition hasn't changed08:21
burn`bathamarok = pwzn0rz08:21
ElitePeteKira, so it worked?08:21
Sh4d0xSeveas amarok :P08:21
burn`bath*pwnzorz08:21
rosenany of them part of the repos ? ... Synaptic is my best friend ;)08:21
SeveasSh4d0x, I'm on the gnome side :)08:21
godzukiEvil_Whisper: andrew is me, what should i change?08:21
KiraI wonder. Would it be a good thing to write a complete tutorial to uninstall Ubuntu from a dual-booted system?08:21
burn`bathrythmbox = pwnzorz208:21
Evil_Whispergodzuki: is your user account the one made by the installer?08:21
Seveasrosen, all of them are08:21
godzukiEvil_Whisper: yes08:21
rosenoh08:21
Sh4d0xSeveas, me too :)08:21
johndarkhorsechombee: try qtparted08:21
rosenwell08:21
ElitePeteKira, it worked?08:21
Evil_WhisperI'll pastebin mine08:21
rosenthanks then .. I'll look further into it ;)08:21
burn`bathKira,  no but it would be a good idea to write a how-to on removing windoze from a dual-boot ;)08:21
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Backup your sudoers file and try mine08:21
KiraElitePete: not sure yet. Windows detected a change in the partition and is CHKDSK'ing it.08:21
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Evil_Whisperhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/616808:22
KiraBut if it was able to reach the CHKSK point, chances are it's ok.08:22
ElitePeteKira, should be ok if not do you have a windows CD ?08:22
burn`bathI personally would suggest deletin' the ntfs and converting it to ext3 ;)08:22
Kiraya, I do08:22
ElitePeteKira, can always try repair if you didn't08:22
chombeejohndarkhorse - ok, installing it08:22
KiraI just feel reluctant to reinstall everything again.08:22
Kiraheh08:23
ElitePeteKira, why not just run XP in vmware ?08:23
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KiraI don't have VMware08:23
ElitePeteKira, so ;-)08:23
Evil_Whispergodzuki: see if that fixes anything08:23
Kiraand I can't get PPPoE to work over wireless.08:23
ElitePeteKira, if you have a bittorrent client you can geti t08:23
Kiralol08:23
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bsasspanish?08:24
godzukiEvil_Whisper: now sudo is borked08:24
johndarkhorse!es08:24
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:24
bsasthanks08:25
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ElitePeteeww, amarok sounds like crap08:25
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Restore your old one then08:25
inv_Arpwhat X package would contain /usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h08:25
godzukiEvil_Whisper: you set a root password right?08:25
Evil_Whispergodzuki: No08:25
chombeejohndarkhorse - QtParted doesn't even detect the disk, it's a SATA device at /dev/sda, it's looking at /dev/hda08:25
burn`bathgodzuki, setting a root pass in ubuntu is kinda dumb >.>08:25
ElitePetequestion: why does amarok sound like crap08:26
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godzukiEvil_Whisper: I did it though08:26
oconnoreDoes anyone know how to install a D-Link wireless card onto Ubuntu?08:26
godzukiEvil_Whisper: how else would I have restored sudo?08:26
inv_Arpi do , i hate typing sudo foo all the time08:26
Evil_Whispergodzuki: That could be your problem =P08:26
bsasi want to install ubuntu, i have got 3 partition. 1: w2kserver (system) 2: winxp 3: fat32 idont need the partition with w2kserver but it has got the systema, can i install winxp in that partition?08:26
inv_Arpoconnore: is it supported?08:26
Agrajaginv_Arp: sudo -i gives you a root shell08:26
Evil_Whispergodzuki: well unset it =P08:26
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ElitePetemy amarok is all staticy08:26
johndarkhorsechombee: sounds like a dodgy controller. have you tried this from a liveCD, perhaps?08:26
Seveasoconnore, put the output of lspci on the pastebin08:26
godzukiEvil_Whisper: what I did from install to now: set root password, added my name to sudo list08:27
oconnorethe card came with drivers for windows operating systems08:27
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chombeejohndarkhorse - yes i am in a livecd now08:27
godzukiEvil_Whisper: cause sudo didn't work before08:27
ElitePeteSeveas, why is my amarok all staticy ;-(08:27
Kirastupid CHKDSK, it didn't even pause to let me see the scan result08:27
inv_Arpoconnore: ok then google for linux drivers08:27
godzukiEvil_Whisper: how do you unset the root password?08:27
oconnoreSeveas... lspci?08:27
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Hmm... Your running gnome right?08:27
tylerQuestion: Whats the best chatting utility if I want to use AIM on ubuntu?08:27
oconnoreok inv_Arp08:27
godzukiEvil_Whisper: no this is kubuntu08:27
chombeejohndarkhorse - is that a problem?08:27
johndarkhorsegodzuki: both steps are unnecessary, the installing user gets sudo privs automatically, there is no root account by default08:27
Seveasoconnore, it's a command you can execute in the terminal08:27
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Oh thats why :P I dunno kde :( uhm08:27
oconnoreok08:27
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johndarkhorsechombee: have you tried from a LiveCD?08:27
SeveasElitePete, no idea, I don't use KDE things08:27
godzukiEvil_Whisper: in kubuntu sudo was broke08:27
ElitePeteSeveas, KDE things?08:27
chombeejohndarkhorse - yeah, that's what I'm trying08:28
inv_ArpSeveas: no point if he doesnt have drivers08:28
ElitePeteSeveas, i'm on gnome ;-P08:28
Evil_Whispergodzuki: I'm not sure with kubuntu but try opening Kuser and make sure your account has all privlages08:28
SeveasElitePete, amarok is a kde program :)08:28
johndarkhorsegodzuki: in kde, you dont use sudo for gui things, you use kdesu08:28
ElitePeteSeveas, oh,, whats a good gnome alternative to xmms then?08:28
godzukijohndarkhorse: I'm just trying to chmod and chown08:28
SeveasElitePete, totem-xine or beep-media=player08:28
johndarkhorsegodzuki: opening gui things using sudo leads to your permissions being mangled08:28
chombeeElitePete - BMP is a gnome version of XMMS08:28
inv_Arpwhat X package would contain /usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h08:28
Evil_WhisperElitePete: Use BMP (Beep-Media-Player)08:28
godzukijohndarkhorse: it's totally hosed08:28
ElitePetesudo apt-get install bmp?08:28
Seveas!find /usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h08:28
johndarkhorsegodzuki: use gksudo in gnome and kdesu in kde to open gui things as superuser08:28
bsasi want to install ubuntu, i have got 3 partition. 1: w2kserver (system) 2: winxp 3: fat32 idont need the partition with w2kserver but it has got the systema, can i install winxp in that partition? please private msg08:28
Seveasinv_Arp, keep an eye on ubotu, he'll answer08:28
Evil_WhisperJohn: He tried my sudoers file now his sudo is borked :(08:29
rosenoh my ... Beep-media-player is winamp-incognito :O08:29
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Sh4d0xrosen, id :)08:29
inv_Arpbsas: yea you can install xp08:29
ElitePetewhats the apt-get cmd for beep media player08:29
godzukiEvil_Whisper: it was broke to start out with, then I added myself to sudoers file, but maybe that was just a hack08:29
oconnoreSeveas- http://pastebin.com/47853308:29
traeodd08:29
SeveasElitePete, apt-get install beep-media-player08:29
godzukiEvil_Whisper: I just want my system fixed :-((((((08:30
rosenElitePete, dunno I used synaptic08:30
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Evil_Whispergodzuki: go into kuser and add all permissions to your account :-)08:30
inv_Arpeliphas_: apt-cache search beep*  or somethin08:30
Seveasoconnore, try the madwifi packages from mirror.ubuntulinux.nl08:30
inv_ArpElitePete, rather08:30
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godzukiEvil_Whisper: you mean users and groups?08:30
mike-ei need to copy the contents of a cd to a directory, what would the syntax be to copy directories, everything in the directories, etc08:30
Evil_Whisper sudo apt-get install beep-media-player08:30
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oconnoreok, thanks seveas08:30
Evil_Whispergodzuki: Yeah set all user groups on your account08:30
Seveasinv_Arp, libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h08:31
inv_Arpmike-e: cp -rv /mnt/cdrom  /newdir08:31
inv_ArpSeveas: nice thx08:31
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mike-ethanks08:31
godzukiEvil_Whisper: i am so confused by this interface, what in the name of god am I doing08:32
Evil_Whispergodzuki: You are giving your account sudo privlages like it should have received after install :S08:32
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rosenElitePete, remember this url http://www.xmms.org/skins.php .... you'll need it ... BMP sure is ugly :O08:32
Evil_Whispergodzuki: join me in #flood08:32
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DeterministSeveas, is there a breezy version of winmac_fstab?08:32
Seveasrosen, I use the UBuntu skin :)08:33
mike-einv_Arp, that didn't work08:33
SeveasDeterminist, it's version agnostic08:33
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ElitePeterosen, the same skins work?08:33
mike-emike@splinter:~$ cp -rv /media/cdrom /home/mike/dw08:33
mike-e`/media/cdrom' -> `/home/mike/dw/cdrom'08:33
mike-emike@splinter:~$08:33
Sh4d0xSeveas, may i ask you a personal question? i just visited the seveas mirror site :D08:33
DeterministSeveas, spits afew errors mate08:33
SeveasSh4d0x, sure, pm me :)08:33
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bugixhi08:33
jbueleri'm having trouble getting my second monitor working...is there someone that might be able to lend a hand?08:33
SeveasDeterminist, pastebin them and I'll solve them :)08:33
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inv_Arpmike-e: ???   cd /media/cdrom  ;   ls08:33
DeterministSeveas, k mate :)08:33
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freak4pchi08:33
ElitePetewhy is beep media player better then xmms ?08:33
keikozhi Seveas :)08:33
mike-e..08:34
mike-eyes?08:34
inv_Arpmike-e:  are there dirs in there?08:34
freak4pci've found a sources.list in ubuntu.org08:34
SeveasElitePete, gtk2 instead of 108:34
mike-eyes08:34
Seveasand cleaner codebase08:34
freak4pcbut now after i try to do the apt-get install build-essential08:34
freak4pcit shows me this : http://ilunix.org/ph?22508:34
Evil_Whispergodzuki: join #kubuntu-offtopic08:34
bugixare there qt 4.1 packages for ubuntu anywhere yet?08:34
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inv_Arpcp -rv /media/cdrom  /newdir       no erros anything?08:34
Sh4d0xseveas, hmm remind me the pm part :$08:34
ElitePetebeep seems to be much quieter then xmms08:34
freak4pcanyone ? :D08:34
Seveasfreak4pc, close synaptic and other apt applications08:34
Seveasfreak4pc, and apt-get update08:35
rosenElitePete, they should ... according to the wiki it even unpacks them itself08:35
freak4pci dont think i've opened it08:35
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: whats freecontrib.org?08:35
rosenSeveas, where'd you find that one ?08:35
freak4pchow do i know if its opened?08:35
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Seveasrosen, which?08:35
surfersers miteinander08:35
tof_hi, when I have 2 users on 2 gnome sessions there is a problem when I insert a media. One user mount it with no access for the other. How can I configure gnome-volume-manager so that when it mounts a device, it's rwx for the 'users' group?08:35
freak4pcsomeone gave me a link08:35
Seveassurfer, englisch bitte08:35
rosenSeveas, the ubuntu skin08:35
BuFFhow could i view video files ? pls help08:35
freak4pcto some mod in ubuntu.org recommending this file08:35
Seveasrosen, sec08:35
Seveasrosen, ubuntulinux.nl/files08:35
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rosenSeveas, thanks :)08:36
inv_Arpfreak4pc: use a different repositoy08:36
bobbydare there any tools for connecting to a mobile phone under linux?08:36
pundaihi, can someone tell me why my dns seems to have died08:36
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Sh4d0xSeveas, how do i pm again :$08:36
pundaior my web08:36
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freak4pcinv_Arp, where can i find one? :| i switched like 3 repositories alreay :D08:36
inv_Arpbobbyd:check  frehjmeat.net08:36
pundaiwtf, telnet works08:36
pundaidmanit08:36
inv_Arperr freshmeat.net08:36
johndarkhorseSh4d0x: /msg NICK blah blah08:36
salahWhich utilities do I need to make a Windows machine to access a directory I have shared?08:36
chestnutexit08:36
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freak4pcinv_Arp, ? :)08:36
ElitePetei think ill stick with xmmms08:37
mike-einv_Arp, cp -rv /media/cdrom/* was what i was looking for08:37
inv_Arpmike-e: no need for the *  when -r is there08:37
mike-ewell yours didn't work, and the * did08:37
mike-eso i'll take the *08:37
mike-e=)08:37
inv_Arp*shrug*08:37
Sh4d0xjohndarkhorse: thnX08:37
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freak4pcanyone? :D08:37
inv_Arpfreak4pc: follow this   http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html08:38
paulproteus|laptmike-e: Also, "cp -a" is "archive mode"; that does "-r" and most other flags you can think of.08:38
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freak4pck ill check08:38
freak4pcby the way this is my ps-x : http://pastebin.com/47853708:38
inv_Arppaulproteus|lapt: preserve timestamps of a cd08:38
freak4pcmaybe u see there something i shud kill?08:38
paulproteus|laptinv_Arp: Yup, "-a" will do that, too.08:39
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inv_Arppaulproteus|lapt: yea i know,  i dont care about cd timestamps08:39
Seveasfreak4pc, update-manager...08:39
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freak4pcSeveas, update-manager? whats that?08:40
inv_Arpfreak4pc: just add thos repositories  and  apt-get update08:40
Seveassomething you have open :)08:40
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h' returned no results.08:40
Deterministsalah, explain please08:40
inv_ArpSeveas: heh08:40
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Seveasubotu, you lagging08:40
ubotuno08:40
Deterministsalah, you want to access a dir on a linux machine from windows?08:40
Seveasubotu, yes08:41
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?08:41
inv_Arplol08:41
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Malach1Can anybody help me on setting up Samba?08:42
salahDeterminist: Yes. I am sharing a directory on this computer (running Ubuntu 5.04), and I want to access this directory from a Windows machine08:42
inv_ArpMalach1: google can,  we can hellp where you get stuck tho08:42
Malach1Okay.08:42
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tyler_Question: When a theme is installed, what directory is it installed to?08:43
Deterministsalah, you need samba server on the linux machine and just use the built-in smb/cifs client in windows08:43
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inv_Arptyler_: use a theme-manager to install it08:43
traeanyone know of a tool to take multiple avi files under Linux, and put them together to make a long video?08:43
ThunderguyAs root, how would I set a ulimit for another user? my manpage doesn't have a ulimit manpage08:43
salahDeterminist: I have installed Samba08:43
inv_Arptrae: avimerge,     apt-get install transcode08:44
freak4pcinv_Arp, maybe all this is because im using the 64-bit version?08:44
tyler_inv_Arp, no I already got all of my themes installed, but on one of them you can edit the color of menu bars if you edit one of the themes files.  To edit the file i need to know where it is :)08:44
inv_Arpsalah: have you setup smb.conf at all yet08:44
traeinv_Arp, hmmm transcode, *shiver*  I've played with it some in the past, and you needed a Phd it seems to use it.08:44
traeinv_Arp, ;)08:44
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Deterministsalah, server or client? to share folders you need the server on the linux machine. to access shared folders from a linux machine you need the client. i'm willing to guess you have the client installed08:44
inv_Arptrae: no it comes with avitools which are ez to use08:44
johndarkhorsetrae: transcode08:44
traeinv_Arp, yessir08:44
freak4pcinv_Arp, any idea? :)08:45
johndarkhorsetrae: there are simple frontends to it (gtranscode)08:45
traejohndarkhorse, tx :)08:45
freak4pccant anyone send me his sources.list maybe?08:45
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell freak4pc about easysource08:45
tyler_Can anyone tell me where themes are located after installed?08:45
inv_Arpfreak4pc: ahhh  are there 64 repositories? i have no idea08:45
burning_bronxtyler_, themes for what?08:45
inv_Arpima slack guy new to this distro08:45
salahDeterminist: Hmm okey, i'll check that out08:45
traejohndarkhorse and inv_Arp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108220   posted this up earlier08:45
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burning_bronxinv_Arp, welcome to Ubuntu :)08:46
salahDeterminist: I have the server installed08:46
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tyler_burning_bronx, its a window borders theme installed through ubuntu theme manager08:46
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freak4pcSeveas, "Seveas' packages" your famous eh? :D08:46
traehmm08:46
inv_Arpburning_bronx: :)  yea this distro makes me sooo lazy08:46
tyler_burning_bronx, i need to edit one thing manually08:46
Seveasfreak4pc, infamous perhaps08:46
traeinv_Arp, think I can do:  avimerge -i *.avi -o new_video.avi ?08:46
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burning_bronxtyler_, I reckon what you're looking for should be in ~/.themes08:47
freak4pcSeveas, you think i shud add ur sources to the sources.list? why unfamous? :D08:47
Paradoxxany1 have any problems with opod nano + rhythmbox? it crashes for me when it starts08:47
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pestilenceanybody know how to get amarok to find an automounted mp3 player?08:47
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Deterministsalah, did you set up smb.conf?08:47
inv_Arptrae: dont think so you gotta name them  avimerge -i  file1 file 2 etc... -o newfile.avi08:47
jbuelerI need help installing ATI graphics drivers08:47
salahDeterminist: No, where do I find that?08:47
traeinv_Arp, ahhh okies08:47
Deterministsalah, /etc, i'm willing to assume :)08:47
freak4pcjohndarkhorse,should i just check all the V's in there?08:47
traeinv_Arp, it seems to be working08:48
traehehe08:48
traewith the *.avi08:48
burning_bronxSeveas, are the java debs still @ update4?08:48
tyler_burning_bronx, yep, thank you08:48
Seveasburning_bronx, no08:48
burning_bronxtyler_, you're welcome08:48
inv_Arptrae: ahh but are they in numbered order?08:48
traeahhh true.08:48
inv_Arpyour pr0n might come out backwords08:48
inv_Arp:)08:48
traeinv_Arp, bwahahaha08:48
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burning_bronxSeveas, so you updated ^_^08:48
burning_bronx!javadebs08:48
uboturumour has it, javadebs is Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb08:48
Seveasthose debs are old08:49
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burning_bronx>.>08:49
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burning_bronxnot "that" old tho08:49
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traeinv_Arp, hmmm, audio is a bit horked.  /me rtfm's08:49
burning_bronxwhy don't you put an up to date link, Seveas?08:49
salahDeterminist: Windows finds the directory which is shared, the only problem is that the Windows machine needs a password to access the directory. I don't have that password (yes im administrator)08:50
inv_Arptrae: are they different types of avi files?08:50
freak4pcehm08:50
ogra_ibookSeveas, breezy has java debs in multiverse you should probably point to these08:50
freak4pcinv_Arp, what does this mean? W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508808:50
traeinv_Arp, all the same type.  (taken with the same camera [Canon PowerShot A310] )08:50
Deterministsalah, have you tried your user and password?08:50
tyler_how do i start the file editing program through terminal, whats it called again?08:50
ElitePetexmms isn't importing presets anyone know why..08:50
inv_Arptrae: import the gpg-key of the repository08:50
freak4pcu mean me no? :|08:50
burning_bronxogra_ibook, I reckon the java debs in multiverse are for backdown java which is dated.08:50
traeheh08:50
inv_Arpfreak4pc: yea08:51
freak4pchow do i import the gpg-key ?08:51
salahDeterminist: Yes I have. And also root username and password08:51
traefreak4pc, hehe08:51
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freak4pci just made a sources.list in the source omatic08:51
inv_Arptrae: do they play fine seperatley?08:51
traeinv_Arp, yah08:51
Deterministsalah, sorry then mate, i dont know :)08:51
Seveasogra_ibook, Those are 1.4, 1.5 is quite popular08:51
traethey play fine seperately08:51
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, they are tested, set all variables and bring the firefox plugin08:51
freak4pcinv_Arp, how do i import that? i just made a tool making me a sources.list08:51
osh_Is there some special repo that I need to get the python2.4-profiler? It doesn't seem to be in the standard ones.08:51
Deterministsalah, try #samba tho, these guys may know08:51
ogra_ibookSeveas, there is not much difference in applet functionasllity08:51
tyler_Under the packet manager, what would i download to install XMMS?08:51
salahDeterminist: thanks anyway08:51
burning_bronxogra, still you can't blame me for using sun java 1.5 update 6 >.>08:51
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inv_Arptrae: hmm, try to just combine 2 or so see what happens08:52
freak4pcit still doesnt let me download build essential!! arrrrrw :(08:52
burning_bronxworks fine with firefox ~_~08:52
Deterministsalah, *nods*08:52
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traeinv_Arp, k08:52
freak4pcE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:52
freak4pcE: Unable to lock the download directory08:52
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freak4pcwhy wouldnt it be able to get a Lock? :|08:52
osh_freak4pc: Some other synaptic/aptitude-process running perhaps?08:52
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, nope, but we have put quite some work into bringing them in to make it easy for unexperienced users that dont want to break their sources.list ..08:52
burning_bronxfreak4pc, make sure you don't have another apt instance running08:53
mwefreak4pc: you're not using sudo or another app like synaptics is running08:53
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ElitePetexmms isn't importing presets anyone know why..08:53
freak4pcim using sudo apt-get install build-essential08:53
freak4pcw8 ill pastebin my tasks08:53
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johndarkhorsefreak4pc: you can only run ONE apt at time (that includes dpkg)08:53
rosenI can't find the directory I installed BMP into :O08:53
ogra_ibookSeveas, burning_bronx, so it would be nice if the bot defaulted to them (with a note where to get 1.5 for the experienced ones)08:53
rosendoh ?08:53
ElitePeterosen,08:53
burning_bronxogra, how exactly using j2re would break sources?08:53
osh_rosen: locate bmp08:53
ElitePetein terminal which bmp08:53
freak4pcHere are my tasks : http://pastebin.com/47854908:54
burning_bronxogra_ibook, there is a walkthrough to getting latest java in the restrictedformats wiki08:54
burning_bronxwe pointo to that08:54
burning_bronx*point to08:54
osh_Noone knows anything about python-profiler?08:54
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, can u check to see if i have something to be closed here? http://pastebin.com/47854908:54
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Seveasogra, it would, sec08:54
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ogra_ibookburning_bronx, if you get them from a external repo, you have to add it to your sources ...08:54
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, if you get a crappy deb that someone aliened, you get into global VARS hell etc08:55
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: in a terminal type "ps aux|grep apt" and if that turns up nothing, insert dkpg in place of apt08:55
traeinv_Arp, yah, still get the audio issues when stringing just two together.08:55
traeinv_Arp, these are short 30second clips.08:55
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traehmm08:55
inv_Arptrae: what types of probs?08:55
tarvidwhat is the wiki of choice for users?08:55
traedon't know if I can translate this into text but....08:55
burning_bronxogra_ibook, that's why I make my own debs but Seveas has some hosted for people who can't make it on their own and it's all working08:55
traeit goes... shhh skip skip shhh skip skip shhh skip skip ...08:56
traeheh08:56
traeYou can still hear the audio08:56
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traebut it's not great.  sounds like a record skipping.08:56
trae(not sure if you young puppies even know what a record is)08:56
trae:)08:56
freak4pcjohndarkhorse, http://pastebin.com/47855208:56
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traeinv_Arp, :)08:57
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Sh4d0xbrb (reboot)08:57
ElitePetecan anyone tell me why xmms is refusing to import winamp presets08:57
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, sure, but if we offer a default option and put manpower into it to make it as easy as possible for the user it would be nice if that could be honored in the support, i dont say using 1.5 is wrong or your way is it, but i wouldnt give my mother the advise to use the 1.5 deb from anywhere if she can enable multiverse with a mouse click and get the blessed package from there08:58
freak4pcOMG IM SO STUPID :|08:58
freak4pcit works now... doh o.O08:58
scharlize:)08:58
freak4pc*ashamed*08:58
freak4pcw32codecs still exists?08:58
burning_bronxogra_ibook, w/e works. It's linux.08:59
burning_bronx!w32codecs08:59
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:59
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, i'd just like to see that the option the distro team decided on would be advised as the default and the stuff thats for the advanced user is the additional advise09:00
inv_Arptrae: have any other .avi files you can try besides those clips..09:00
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traeinv_Arp, naw, not really.09:00
johndarkhorsefreak4pc: close your synaptic09:00
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burning_bronxogra_ibook, 1.5 would be default if it wasn't "restricted format" I believe.09:00
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traeinv_Arp, the gtranscode didn't seem like a video editing tool per se09:00
inv_Arptrae: hmmm,  what type of .avi files are they  divx.. etc?09:00
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inv_Arpcamera might be using some weird format09:01
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, else the effort we put in there to make the defaults work is somewhat pointless ...09:01
trae00001.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 640 x 480, ~15 fps, video: Motion JPEG, audio: uncompressed PCM (mono, 11024 Hz)09:01
traeinv_Arp, --^09:01
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, if sun would make it open, we'd use it as default09:01
burning_bronxogra_ibook, you a devel?09:01
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, yup09:01
burning_bronxwhat are you working on lately?09:01
ogra_ibooki build edubuntu09:02
burning_bronxi c09:02
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ogra_ibookand all screensaver stuff as well as the hdwb09:02
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CGAhi all09:02
inv_Arptrae: ahh might need mjpeg-ttols to work with those09:02
ogra_ibookapart from the distro work we all do09:02
inv_Arperr toos09:02
inv_Arptools*09:02
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traelibmjpegtools0 is already the newest version.09:03
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traeinv_Arp, no worries... I need to go run and work off these holiday calories ;)  I'll be back later.09:03
traeinv_Arp, I do appreciate all your help!09:04
inv_Arpnp09:04
inv_Arptrae: https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3456&group_id=5776  good tutorial on mjpeg09:04
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burning_bronxogra_ibook, do you have any idea when X is gonna hit his official release with ubuntu (since it's offically out now)09:04
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ogra_ibookits in since some days09:04
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burning_bronxogra_ibook, I am running dapper and it's still an RC...09:05
burning_bronxX I mean...09:05
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, it was xorg7 with daniels latest upload afaik09:05
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lightbrighthow do I update applications such as xchat to the latest?09:05
ogra_ibookthe naming might not be up to date ;)09:05
burning_bronxogra_ibook, it still shows as RC4 >.>09:06
ElitePetecan anyone tell me why XMMS refuses to load presets09:06
johndarkhorselightbright: your client will tell you when there's an update09:06
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burning_bronxsame goes for Firefox 1.5 RC3 and afaik RC3 was promoted to offical release >.>09:06
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johndarkhorselightbright: or you can use backports, but i don't recommand them09:07
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, most of it is already 7...09:07
burning_bronxogra_ibook, I know - been using Dapper since the beginning.09:07
burning_bronx>.>09:07
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: ok!  so unless I use backports, I can never ever update applications and programs to the latest?09:07
chombeejohndarkhorse burn`bath - in the end I just ran the installer and resized the partition manually with that. I think the installer may use ntfsresize. For the record, if ppl want to resize ntfs partitions the easiest way may to boot the installer, resize it, then abort the install09:07
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burning_bronxchombee you're the man ;)09:08
CGA*anyone* i'm trying to compile E17 and its libs on my system (ubuntu breezy) but i get an error when compiling evas (a EFL library) because it needs Xorg compiled with XShm.h , what can i do about it? and do you any ubuntu dev to point him out the following question? why didn't you guys compile X with that header?09:08
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johndarkhorsechombee: i've used qtparted and gparted to resize ntfs and not had any problems (we are discussing millions of permutations of hardware, tho)09:08
lightbrighthow can I search the cache? When I type:  sudo apt-cache search sword09:08
lightbright for example, it shows a LOT of other things that doesnt even contain "sword"09:08
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: ok!  so unless I use backports, I can never ever update applications and programs to the latest?09:09
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: is that true?09:09
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ogra_ibookburning_bronx, the only thing i care about there is that the versions are in at UVF...09:09
johndarkhorseCGA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment09:09
chombeejohndarkhorse - it's strange, this is the second machine on which GParted didn't work for me09:09
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, which is still a month to go09:09
humbraroanybody here know how to get dri working with an old all-in-wonder 128 card on breezy?09:09
CGAjohndarkhorse, k i'll look at it09:09
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burning_bronxogra_ibook, any input on the new MySQL stuff?09:10
johndarkhorselightbright: ubuntu is on a 6 month release cycle, which means you get new stuff every 6 months. the cutting edge stuff will always be in the development version09:10
jbuelerpastebin09:10
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, not that i'm aware of09:10
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CGAjohndarkhorse, i want E17 from CVS , i used to use that howto (shadfoi's one) and those repos09:10
scenestarmerry xmass room09:10
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, was no topic in the recent time ...09:10
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scenestarugh09:10
johndarkhorsechombee: gparted was late in the game getting ntfsprogs support, which is why i prefer using (and recommending qtparted for ntfs work)09:10
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: SO unless I use backports, I can never ever update applications and programs to the latest until ecery 6 months with every new Ubuntu realease?  Is that correct?09:10
scenestarwhat the hell is wrong with automatix09:10
burning_bronxogra_ibook, I mean after all MySQL 5 is officially stable now and we're still sluggin' with MySQL 4 >.>09:10
scenestarit worked perfectly last thursday09:10
scenestarnow it breaks apt-get09:11
Oconnoreseveas, I am trying to get the required packages for the madwifi driver, but apt-get isn't liking your repositories - http://pastebin.com/478563 - any ideas?09:11
lightbrightscenestar: I dont celebrate Xmas, its not even Christian, its a pagan holiday!  Jesus wasnt born December 25, a Pagan sun god called Tammuz was09:11
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, it might or might not go in, no idea... i know that we'll in any case have the recent postgres ...09:11
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scenestarlightbright: im just saying it to be nice, i really fsckin hate "the season"09:11
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johndarkhorselightbright: in #ubuntu-offtopic please09:12
lightbrightscenestar: Christmas trees, decorations etc are all "offerings" to the birth of Tammuz. The round balls on the christmas trees, represent the "SUN" because the pagans worshiped the SUN as a god.09:12
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: ok09:12
johndarkhorsescenestar: in #ubuntu-offtopic please09:12
burning_bronxstill many people prefer MySQL to postgres :/09:12
scenestaruhuh09:12
scenestaryeah09:12
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scenestarback to the problem09:12
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: SO unless I use backports, I can never ever update applications and programs to the latest until ecery 6 months with every new Ubuntu realease?  Is that correct?09:12
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lightbrightjohndarkhorse: is that true?09:12
scenestarwhy did automatix die on me?09:12
Seveas!automatix09:12
ubotuautomatix is, like, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!09:12
burning_bronxscenestar, don't use automatix09:12
burning_bronxit would break your stuff.09:12
johndarkhorselightbright: you can build the latest source code into programs if you wish (a lot of people do), but ubuntu will not see "new" programs until the next release09:12
lightbrightscenestar: whats automatix?09:13
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burning_bronxlightbright, read what ubotu said09:13
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, if you used oracle for some years, you see the lacks in mysql, but before i had to use oracle i'd have agreed ...09:13
lightbrightjohndarkhorse: if it doesnt "see" them how can you use them?09:13
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scenestarlightbright: its an automated installers09:13
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lightbrightscenestar: ah ok09:13
lightbrightbimberi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :)09:13
scenestarogra_ibook: oracle is friggin horrible09:13
johndarkhorsescenestar: if you must insist on a "easy script", use this one: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/easybreezy0.33-alpha.tar.gz09:13
lightbrightbimberi: hello09:13
scenestarjohndarkhorse: does that work?09:14
lightbrightjohndarkhorse lightbright: you can build the latest source code into programs if you wish (a lot of people do) <--- How?09:14
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zeenixhi09:14
scenestarlightbright: you mean cvs?09:14
scenestarthat takes friggin ages09:14
ogra_ibookburning_bronx, but i agree, for beginners tasks and small stuff mysql is quite nice ( i used it to feed our oracle DB in my last job *g*)09:14
lightbrightscenestar: whats cvs?09:14
johndarkhorsescenestar: join #ubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain it09:14
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johndarkhorselightbright: please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic for a quick howto in compiling09:14
dwhsixhi all - recommendations on getting an ipod to work?  it's new, never used on anything (windows or otherwise).  I suspect gtkpod wants to be able to read the iTunesDB file (which doesn't yet exist).  Banshee never finishes when I tell it to write one... thoughts?09:14
scenestardwhsix`: read the forums09:15
scenestartheres a full guide09:15
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burning_bronxogra_ibook, that's why I think the new mysql should make it into dapper :/09:15
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osh_http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/python/python2.4-profiler <- why can't I download and install that? I've got the multiverse and backports repos enabled...09:15
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hungerCan I install ubuntu on a LVM / ?09:15
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dwhsixscenestar: I've found some discussions but nothing very definitive - can you point me to a specific thread?09:15
humbraroanybody here know how to get 3d accelleration on an  old ATI all-in-wonder128 on breezy?09:15
bimberihi lightbright :)09:15
chombeeHmm... How come I don't see the gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse package?09:15
osh_hunger: yes. but leave /boot out of it. ubuntu cant boot on an lvm.09:16
scenestardwhsix: im on a crummy laptop09:16
scenestarcant help09:16
hungerosh_: Thanks!09:16
scenestaruse the search function09:16
osh_hunger: took me a while to figure out... ;-)09:16
dwhsixscenestar: ok, thanks, I'll look some  more...09:16
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hungerosh_: Now I only need to figure out how to do that;-)09:16
lightbrightchombee: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232509:16
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osh_hunger: when you create your lvm, just leave a tiny slice out and mount that as /boot. Or if you're very good with initrd you could create one that has the lvm-drivers in it and boot from that. But that's quite complex and I've never tried it. It should work though.09:17
zeenixthe stock linux-image-ppc for breezy is compiled with fb, which doesn't work on my mini mac09:18
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chombeeI don't have anything to paste, lightbright, but I think the wiki instructions for adding repositories might be wrong09:18
hungerosh_: I had ubuntu installed (even mostly on LVM), but I had to replace th HD it was on...09:18
hungerosh_: So I "migrated" all the LVs to a USB disk... which I dropped to the floor.09:19
ossiehi guys, im having some problems with burning CDs, on an external dvd/cdr combo drive, it wont eject with k3b09:19
hungerosh_: So reinstall time for me... good that I do have backups;-)09:19
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chombeeYep, the wiki is wrong. Do you think I should change it?09:20
osh_hunger: coming from big-iron unix I'd say that this is one area which linux could do with some improvement. when mixing lvm and raid it's easy to make misstakes.09:21
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CGA*anyone* is there a ubuntu-dev channel?09:21
hungerosh_: Well, nothing protects you from dropping drives:-(09:21
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ossieanyone reccommend a fix for my cd not allowing me to ekject09:21
hungerosh_: But you are right... but LVM definitly is a step into the proper direction.09:22
ptloCGA: there's #ubuntu-motu for packaging, and #ubuntu-devel for development09:22
hungerAnyone got the edubuntu dapper livecd to boot?09:22
CGAthx ptlo09:22
ogra_ibookhunger, yup09:22
ogra_ibookhunger, ppc is a bit hairy though09:23
hungerogra_ibook: It does not find itself on a simple i386 here...09:23
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Seveas!javadebs09:23
ubotu[javadebs]  Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb09:23
ElitePetesudo apt-get search right?09:23
ogra_ibookhunger, but the other arches are tested several times09:23
salahWhere is the guide to install wireless cards in Ubuntu?09:23
BoukenPinkOkey poke... I'm having a wee issue with my ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV and the fglrx driver... After I install it, my computer will freeze up within a couple minutes after logging on... Anyone know what might be up?09:23
Seveas!no javadebs is <reply> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy09:24
ubotuSeveas: okay09:24
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hungerogra_ibook: "Unable to find a CD-ROM containing /casper/filesystem.cloop.09:24
ogra_ibookSeveas, thanks a lot :)09:24
tylerI have my nVidia drivers installed through the package manager.. Is there any way to edit the file to make it run smoother? I have a great vid card but its running just OK in Ubuntu..09:24
hungerogra_ibook: Then I am in the busybox shell...09:24
XorlevWhat's the command used to compile a piece of software as a debian package? Not make-kpkg...09:24
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bimberiXorlev: checkinstall09:24
scenestarapt-compile?09:25
Xorlevbimberi: Thanks =)09:25
bimberiubotu tell salah about wifi09:25
ogra_ibookhunger, weird, i tested it on 6 different machines here ... you are talking about flight2, right ?09:25
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bimberiXorlev: np :)09:25
ogra_ibookhunger, the recent dailies might be broken09:25
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BoukenPinkAnyone~? I've been around the forums, but I can't seem to find anything. :309:25
dabaR_I win!09:25
idefixhow do I find out what filesystem my floppy uses?09:25
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hungerogra_ibook: I think it is flight 2 (that was what I was trying to download).09:26
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idefixwhy are there so many filesystems?09:26
hungerogra_ibook: I'd guess my SATA CDROM is not recognized...09:26
idefixwhy are some filesystems listed in the file filesystem but blocked with nodev?09:26
Zugwrackanyone seen nalioth recently?09:26
johndarkhorseZugwrack: yes i am he09:26
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ogra_ibookhunger, hmm, might be, i have no SATA HW around ... but then it wont worjk with ubuntu as well09:27
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Seveas!seen nalioth09:27
ubotunalioth <n=Apple@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 7h 7m 36s ago, saying: 'i'm at work.'.09:27
hungerogra_ibook: I have not tried ubuntu CDs in ages... grabbing one right now.09:27
johndarkhorseSeveas: touche09:27
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ogra_ibookhunger, edubuntu and ubuntu live are only different in the desktop package selection, the bootprocess and casper are identical09:28
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tylerI have my nVidia drivers installed through the package manager.. Is there any way to edit the file to make it run smoother? I have a great vid card but its running just OK in Ubuntu..09:28
ZugwrackHey quick question...I know that you deal with devel on the PPC version of the kernel...alas this question is related to Mac OS X 10.4.3...I can't kill iTunes with a force quit..and from command prompt I issue a kill -9 6052 and it still won't kill the process09:28
ogra_ibookhunger, i doubt ubuntu will work ..09:28
johndarkhorseZugwrack: did you try 'sudo' ?09:28
Topkeni am trying to do a dual boot with windows and for some reason it could not create the main partion for ubuntu09:29
hungerogra_ibook: Hmmm... I just need something to boot from to rescue my dapper install:-(09:29
ZugwrackYep...I su'ed first before trying to kill the process09:29
zeenixanyone else using ubuntu on mac mini?09:29
ogra_ibookhunger, and breezy live wont ?09:29
ZugwrackThere are a coupld colums I am not sure what the term is telling me...09:29
Zugwrack*couple*09:29
hungerogra_ibook: Haven't tried that yet:-)09:29
Topkenplus i can get thru on the live cd but it freezes once its dont checking everything09:30
dabaR_ubotu: tell Topken about ask09:30
hungerogra_ibook: I thouhgt while I need to grab a liveCD anyway I might as well test flight2:-)09:30
ZugwrackThey are TT and stat...my process shows ?? and E respectively johndarkho09:30
Zugwrackzeenix: Nope on a dual G409:30
ogra_ibookhunger, then keep the iso to easily rsync it ;) i'm happy about every edubuntu tester09:30
hungerogra_ibook: Actually I only ended up with the edubuntu CD by accident:-)09:31
Topkeni have balck screen with a white dash and thats it09:31
Zugwrackjohndarkho: ?09:31
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protok0lhello all09:32
christianpmerry christmas to all the channel!!!09:32
protok0li have an mp3 player, how do i mount it? its USB 2.009:32
ogra_ibookhunger, thats a gods hint ;)09:32
ElitePeteprotok0l, it should come up automatically09:33
hungerogra_ibook: Anyway: edubuntu flight2 does not boot on a thinkpad T43p. HW specs are in the LaptopTesting  area of the wiki if you need those.09:33
Topkenany ideas on my problem guys?09:33
ogra_ibooki'll look them up, hunger thanks, and frohe weihnachten :)09:33
hungerogra_ibook: Thanks! Same to you.09:33
ogra_ibook:)09:34
protok0lElitePete: it doesn't (if you mean on the desktop)09:34
hungerogra_ibook: Feel free to contact me if you need someone testing any changes related to the boot issue.09:34
chombeeI made a correction to this wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto but I can't be too detailed because I don't know if Hoary and Warty are exactly the same as Breezy09:34
ElitePeteprotok0l, go to places>computer09:34
ElitePetedo you see it their?09:34
ogra_ibookhunger, thanks again, i'll do that09:34
hungerogra_ibook: Dunno whether I can do any more serious testing for edubuntu on a (usually) not networked laptop.09:35
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batmanhey where do i go to configure internet connection sharing?09:35
Topkeni need to go09:35
ogra_ibookhunger, liveCD would already be fine ...09:35
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hungerogra_ibook: Isen't edubuntu about thin clients, etc? Like skolelinux?09:36
protok0lElitePete: i'm not seeing it09:36
idefixwhen you type "mount" at the xterm is it automatically interpreted as mount(8)?09:36
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ElitePeteprotok0l, one moment09:36
buliohow do I get rhythmbox to play mp3s?09:36
HymnToLife!mp309:36
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:36
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batmanbulio, you can always use xmms09:37
buliook09:37
buliobut I like rhythmbox09:37
dabaR_batman: did you read that page above, the restricted formats one?09:37
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batmanno but i've never had a problem09:37
dabaR_batman: I just ask cause that is mentioned there, the xmms solution.09:38
ogra_ibookhunger, that too, (in fact its currently my core job to improve ltsp) but its more than that ... its about educational apps as well and support for small HW you can use in poorer environments09:38
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batmanoh09:38
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batmandabaR_, do you know where i can go to setup internet connection sharing?09:38
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dabaR_batman: that is my favorite issue. Try installing ipmasq and dnsmasq to start.09:39
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ElitePeteprotok0l, is it an ipod?09:39
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anatolewhat is the optimal partition setup for dual booting ubuntu and windows?09:40
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anatolei mean, which should be on the beginning of the hd, and which should follow09:40
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dabaR_anatole: it is a needs based answer. What you need is optimal.09:40
dabaR_anatole: windows on the beginning.09:40
anatolethank you09:40
batmandabaR_, ok have that installed now what?09:40
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dabaR_Now, set the dnsmasq config file for dnsmasq to work. sudo gedit /etc/dnsmasq.conf, I guess.09:42
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protok0lElitePete: no, some phillips mp3 player09:42
batmandabaR_ have you done this for a wireless access point?09:42
ElitePeteprotok0l, yea, they have a thign you install for ipod but... hold on trying to find a solution09:42
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ElitePeteprotok0l, i plug mine in and it works right away :\09:43
gersthow can I setup a temperature monitor for my kubuntu I have an Asus a7v8x-x MB09:43
gerst?09:43
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axelhello merry christmas09:43
dabaR_batman: no. And I do not know how to do wireless at all. But on this level it is most likely the same. You uncommend the line that shows the dhcp-range, to enable the DHCP server.09:43
chombeeIs there a command I can type to get it to re-read the fstab file?09:43
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dabaR_chombee: "sudo mount -a"09:44
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axelwhat is the difference between a src.rpm and a noarch.rpm?09:44
chombeedabaR_ thanks!09:44
hunger_ogra_ibook: I gave my IP to the last guy claiming to be able to hack me: 127.0.0.1. He claimed that he would have had success, but unfortunately his computer keapt crashing when he was attacking mine...09:45
ElitePete!ubotu mp3 players?09:45
ubotuElitePete: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:45
ElitePete!yes09:45
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, elitepete?09:45
Seveasaxel, this is not #redhat #fedora or whatever09:45
ElitePetelol09:45
Merlinehello, im newpie and i need help in mysql. I have made mysql password and now i cant remember it. how i can change it or what i can do?09:45
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ElitePeteSeveas, is their a forum post on how to install an mp3 player (hardware)09:45
SeveasUbuntu does not use rpm09:45
ogra_ibookhunger, *giggle*09:45
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SeveasElitePete, plug in, (enjoy|panic)09:45
McGyver^salve09:45
Seveasthat's the general instructions :)09:45
axelok thanks seveas09:46
ElitePeteSeveas,  ?09:46
ElitePetelol09:46
dabaR_ElitePete: use #mysql, if you do not get an answer here.09:46
new2ubuntuhello, I was wondering if someone might be able to help me with some problems Im having getting my wireless card to work properly? I seem to have shown ndiswrapper 2 drivers, both of which show up as invalid but I cant seem to remove either one to start over?09:46
burning_bronxElitePete, read here09:46
burning_bronx!restrictedformats09:46
ubotu[restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:46
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burning_bronxget the codecs and use ANY player09:46
salahbimberi: Well, I can't find any package named "wpasupplicant"09:47
axelbut how about this I ask a question in the forum relating to ubuntu 5.10 and nobody replies in over 4 days?09:47
Seveasburning_bronx, (hardware) <----09:47
dabaR_ElitePete: sorry.09:47
burning_bronxSeveas?09:47
Seveassalah, it's in universe09:47
dabaR_Merline: use #mysql if you do not get an answer.09:47
Seveasburning_bronx, read ElitePete's lines...09:47
salahSeveas: What do you mean?09:47
MerlinedabaR_: ok thanks09:47
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burning_bronxah09:47
Seveas!tell salah about universe09:47
ElitePetedabaR, no prob09:47
ilba7rbronx it is in the forms09:47
burning_bronxI missed what was in the parentensis09:47
hunger_axel: well, everybody is volunteering their time there.09:47
axelthankyou09:48
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burning_bronxI am naked and dehydrated so I am forgiven ;)09:48
MasterTsunami:|09:48
Seveasburning_bronx, TOO MUCH INFO09:48
dabaR_batman: after you are done that, you restart dnsmasq "sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart"09:48
hunger_axel: Yes, I know... not a very helpful answer.09:48
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Seveasaxel, what's the question (link to the forumpost will do)09:48
burning_bronxSeveas, sorry but it's the NAKED truth09:48
axelthanks seveas09:49
chiisaiHow would I go about running two X sessions?09:49
dabaR_chiisai: Apps>Sys Tools>New Login09:49
ovehanyone got the intel 2200bg to work? i'm following the thread "howto: ipw2200+wpa", but i'm stuck trying to make ieee80211, the error is something about gcc-3.4 not found etc?09:50
HymnToLifechiisai > Ctrl+Alt+Fx09:50
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HymnToLifeand then xstart (or startx, don't remember)09:50
hunger_oveh: Ubuntu ships with gcc 4.x, not 3.4. Try apt-get install gcc-3.409:50
Seveasoveh, ipw2200 ubuntu drivers work wit ubuntu too09:51
Seveaseven with wpa, you just need to disable hardware crypto09:51
hunger_oveh: ... or grab the linux.restricted-modules deb... that has them IIRC.09:51
new2ubuntuwould anyone know how to install a broadcom wireless card? perchance?09:51
Seveas!tell new2ubuntu about ndiswrapper09:51
new2ubuntuIVe read up on that sorta..I downloaded the 3 related packages and installed them.09:52
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new2ubuntubut when I tried to set up ndiswrapper with the .inf file it came back with some sort of fatal error?09:52
ovehhmm, one at a time ;P apt-get can't find gcc-3.409:52
Seveasnew2ubuntu, errors on the pastebin please09:52
humbrarochiisai: try this out: ctrl-alt-f1, then login, then "startx -- :1 &" no quotes, this should start a session at f809:52
new2ubuntucrud I quit the session and started a new one..09:53
axelits been answered but not solved here go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10576609:53
chiisaiHymnToLife, dabaR: The reason I want to run two X sessions is that I want to be able to run games using only one monitor in the second one, and two monitors via the nvidia twinview-thingy in the main one. Would this be a problem?09:53
hunger_oveh: I am not on a ubuntu box right now... try "apt-cache search gcc | grep 3.4" to find the correct name of the deb.09:53
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ovehhunger_: ok, thanx09:53
lummeldoes ubuntu installation support usb wlan cards09:53
chiisaihumbraro, right, can I make startx choose a different xorg.conf?09:53
mweit's gcc-3.4 so it's weird if apt doesn't find int09:54
humbrarochiisai: i've never been able to get 3d accelleration to work on multiple x-sessions, but i have crappy vid cards09:54
Seveasaxel, ok hold on09:54
chiisaihumbraro, :\09:54
rosendoes anyone know of a howto or something to install a usb (bluetooth) mouse with multiple buttons ?09:54
rosenand assigning the buttons :O09:54
humbrarochiisai: hmm, check out the man page for what option to load a config file09:54
chiisaihumbraro, right. I'll check it out. Thanks :)09:54
humbrarogood luck!09:54
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definityhi09:55
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ovehmwe: i only find 4.0 and 3.309:55
definityany one in here that uses kismet09:55
Seveasaxel, this *should* be easy09:55
mweoveh: did you sudo apt-get update and are you using breezy and is you /etc/apt/sources.list good?09:55
axelThanks I hope so09:55
Seveasaxel: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /root/backup-of-status09:56
Seveasaxel: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status09:56
hunger_rosen: Mine was discovered and ready to use without me needing to do anything special (but it has 2 buttons+wheel only)09:56
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Seveastry these 2 commands (in this order!) and retry09:56
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new2ubuntuIm trying to recreate the error for a posting..09:56
ovehmwe: how du i now my sources.list is good? ;P09:56
definityany one in here that uses kismet09:56
BoukenPinkHow do I get glxgears to output to the console the FPS?09:56
rosenhunger, yeah mine works aswell .. but I got 8 mousebuttons unassigned :/09:56
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ElitePeteBoukenPink, glxgears -iacknowladgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark09:57
hunger_rosen: Hmm... soory, I can't help with that. Does that bluetooth HID protocol think support that many buttons?09:57
kakeiElitePete glxgears -printfps is easier ;d09:57
ElitePetekakei, :-D09:57
axelok thanks seveas I will give it a try and retry?09:57
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Seveasretry synaptic :)09:57
mweoveh: if you have main and are using an official repo it should be good enough to get gcc-3.409:57
ElitePetekakei, neither one shows my fps09:57
rosenhunger_, I dunno really, but it should atleast assign more that two and the wheel09:58
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axelok thanks very much09:58
new2ubuntuok I managed to recreate the error09:58
batmanhmm09:58
BoukenPinkWoot... I couldn't get the fglrx from the repositories to work, but the one from ATI's site works. :D09:58
mweoveh: again did you sudo apt-get update?09:58
ovehmwe: yes09:58
markitoxshello, does anyone know, how to mute the sound of the system through the console?09:58
hunger_axel: DOes this help:09:58
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mweand you're using breezy and all?09:59
pundaimarkitoxs, do you use alsa09:59
markitoxsyes09:59
dabaR_markitoxs: "alsamixer" m mutes, mute master09:59
GoRoDeKif i try to install vlc (videolan client) on ubuntu 6.04 (beta) i get a dependencies error "vlc depends on: libdbus1-1 (>=0.50), but cannot be installed". (libdbus-1-2 allready installed) is that something that should be reported or have i did something wrong?09:59
Seveasmarkitoxs, amixer --toggle Master09:59
pundaimarkitoxs, /exec which amixer09:59
Seveasoslt09:59
markitoxsthx guys09:59
mweoveh: and you're using breezy and all?09:59
ovehmwe: mm, 5.10, installed 10min ago09:59
mweoveh: ok09:59
pundaimarkitoxs, there you go09:59
hunger_rosen: http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mouse5.html says something about an config option for the number of buttons.09:59
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Seveasamixer set 'Master' toggle09:59
pundaiyeah toggle09:59
hunger_rosen: default is 3...09:59
mweoveh: paste /etc/apt/sources.list at the pastebin, so I can see it09:59
markitoxsand, does anyone know, how to increase/decrease the sound? also with alsamixer?09:59
definityany one in here use kismet09:59
ovehmwe: ok, 2sec10:00
Seveasmarkitoxs, man amixer :)10:00
ilba7roveh use synaptic it might be already installed for i have it on my machine and by the way i had similar problem to yours10:00
Seveas(or use alsamixer and the arrow keys)10:00
batmandefinity, i use kismet10:00
markitoxsSeveas, i need a command, cuz i'm doinbg it through shortcuts with the keys10:00
definityi wonder if you can help me i go to start it up and i get an error apear10:00
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Seveasmarkitoxs, then read the manpage for amixer :)10:00
mweoveh: was is it you're trying to install again?10:00
markitoxsi'm doing it10:00
markitoxsthx10:00
Hoxzerwhen I try to play .rmvb audio with mplayer I experience terrible frame drop do you guys know what could cause it?10:01
ovehmwe: ipw220010:01
mweoveh: oh, so you're not online with it yet?10:01
rosenhunger_, thanks I'll check it out10:01
ovehmwe: nope10:01
mweoveh: ahh10:01
batmandefinity, whats the error?10:01
mweoveh: then that's the problem. hmm10:01
BoukenPinkThe only problem I have now is, the tutorial I followed to get fglrx to work seems to have changed the resolution of the login screen.... Is there any way I can change it back to 1024*768?10:01
axelI will get back to you in some time say 10 minutes10:01
ilba7roveh ipw2200 worked out of the box here not with wpa though10:01
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johndarkhorseburning_bronx: can you save that for #ubuntu-offtopic please?10:02
definitybatman: Waiting for server to start before starting UI...10:02
definitySuid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.10:02
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definityFATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission deniedd10:02
ovehilba7r: i need wpa, but maybe just change to wep and reinstall10:02
mweoveh: apt-get update doesn't have any effect if you're not online10:02
ovehi'm online mwe10:02
ovehi'm on irc10:02
oveh;P10:02
johndarkhorsedefinity: sounds like you need to use sudo10:02
mweoveh: yeah but with that box?10:02
ovehmwe: yeah10:03
ilba7roveh type sudo synaptic and search through synaptic for gcc3.410:03
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ovehilba7r: k10:03
burning_bronxjohndarkhorse, sorry - it was an /ame from another server ... it's just the way xchat does it10:03
burning_bronx:/10:03
mweoveh: ok then paste the /etc/apt/sources.list at the pastebin10:03
definityeven when i sudo i get this message10:03
Hoxzerwhere is w32codecs located?10:03
new2ubuntupastebin?10:03
ilba7roveh and if you have a router you can only allow only your mac address (as security instead of wpa) to access the router10:03
definityWaiting for server to start before starting UI...10:03
definitySuid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.10:03
definityNo specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.10:03
definityEnabling channel hopping.10:03
definityEnabling channel splitting.10:03
definityNOTICE: Disabling channel hopping, no enabled sources are able to change channel.10:03
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definitySource 0 (addme): Opening none source interface none...10:03
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Hoxzer/usr/lib/win32 I guess10:03
pundaican I /exec cat /var/log/messages10:04
pundaierr can I /exec -o cat /var/log/messages10:04
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ovehilba7r: thats true, but how do i get back to the way it was, i've completly fucked up the ipw220010:04
ElitePetewhats the best mail program?10:04
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pundaiElitePete, emacs10:04
ElitePetek10:04
dabaR_ElitePete: BestEmailProg10:04
definityany idears?10:04
johndarkhorseoveh: please respect us with your language choices10:04
johndarkhorsedefinity: please dont paste in here (read the /topic)10:05
ElitePetedabaR_, ?10:05
Sh4d0xseveas, got your present :)10:05
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ovehjohndarkhorse: sorry10:05
definityok10:05
dabaR_ElitePete: that is the best email programming.10:05
ElitePete?10:05
ElitePete<confused10:05
ilba7roveh i did the same error trying to recompile. The only way i got around that is installing the kernel image again.10:05
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mweElitePete: best mail program is a matter of personal prefs10:05
ElitePetemwe, whats a good one?10:06
ilba7roveh so whatever kernel you have either upgrade, downgrade or reinstall10:06
mweElitePete: I use thunderbird10:06
new2ubuntuok I pasted my fatal to the paste bin10:06
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ElitePetek10:06
Sh4d0xSeveas, got ur present :)10:06
mweElitePete: emacs as a mail client may be a bit hairy for n00bs10:06
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ElitePetemwe, i am a noob ;-P10:07
definityso dose any one know how to help me atall?10:07
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salahSeveas: I have done that. But my network don't use WPA. How do I disable it?10:07
ovehilba7r: i reinstall then, its a clean install and ipw2200 is the only thing i've done10:07
mweElitePete: then _I_ wouldn't recommend emacs10:07
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ElitePetemwe, yea im getting thunderbird10:07
salahSeveas: It's something like this: proto=WPA10:07
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johndarkhorsedefinity: have you asked in #kismet?10:08
ilba7roveh you do not need to reinsatall everything. Use synaptic and search for linux-image you will find which one is installed for you or type uname -a in a terminal10:08
definityyeh10:08
mweElitePete: there's also evolution if you use gnome (I don't)10:08
ilba7roveh this will tell you whick kernel image you need10:08
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definityno ones in there10:08
djk_if a dist-upgrade is done, is still everything configured as it was, ie progs, menu etc?10:09
ElitePetemwe, yea i use gnome, how does evolution compare to thunderbird ?10:09
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definitythere is but there all silent10:09
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ovehilba7r: ok10:09
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johndarkhorsedefinity: have you been to the kismet homepage/forums?10:09
dams_salut10:09
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mweElitePete: I can't really say too much about evolution. I haven't really used it. I only had a glance at it10:09
new2ubuntuhow do I clear out invalid drivers installed to ndiswrapper?10:09
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ElitePetemwe, oh.. is thunderbird good in your opinion?10:10
new2ubuntuor does it matter?10:10
definityyeh couldnt find anything usefull i did have a problem with the kismet.conf but the fourums helped me with that10:10
mweElitePete: yeah. I love it. it handles news too10:10
odatany god packages for fonts?10:10
odatgood10:10
ElitePetemwe, ok10:10
dabaR_!fonts10:10
ubotuit has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto10:10
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ovehmwe: ahhh, editing sources.list worked :-)10:10
mweoveh: great10:11
BooZeehow can I see what memory type do I have on my comp ?10:11
jobliIs'nt Azureus available as a package anymore? My sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/617110:11
batmandabaR_, when i did the dhcp server http port wasn't working10:11
ElitePetejobli, sudo apt-get install azureus10:12
batmanso i just uninstaleld it10:12
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salah!tell salah about wi-fi10:12
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salah!tell salah about wireless10:12
raphinkBooZee: open the box and look ;)10:12
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odatneed some different packages for fonts10:12
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ubuntuyo homies10:13
johndarkhorseodat: you can install any truetype fonts in ~/.fonts10:13
BooZeeraphink: nice... and a real answer ?10:13
DarksunHaving a wierd problem with my wireless connection, it keeps flashing as disconnected every few seconds10:13
dabaR_batman: what does that sentence mean? I dont understand.10:13
mweElitePete: what repo is azureus in? my apt doesn't find it in main/universe/multiverse10:13
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jobliElitePete, does not work:can not find package10:13
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mwe about azureus10:13
dabaR_mwe: it is not in Ubuntu10:13
ElitePetemwe, hmm10:13
chombeeDoes Breezy have any way of administering settings, such as menu items, panel config, for all users at once?10:13
ubuntuhow do i change my name?10:13
johndarkhorseubotu: tell ElitePete about azureus10:13
batmandabaR_, it means my internet didn't work using a web browser port 80 == http port10:13
johndarkhorseubuntu: type /nick NEWNICK10:13
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ElitePetejohndarkhorse, thanks but i know about it10:14
ilba7rnew2ubuntu look at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568310:14
aliencdsthank you jogndark10:14
BooZeeanybody knows how can I know (from linux) what type of memory do I have ?10:14
aliencdsthank you*10:14
raphinkthis is my real answer BooZee10:14
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johndarkhorseBooZee: in a terminal, type "sudo lshw"10:14
alexissofthi10:14
raphinkI know no way to get real infos on memory without opening the box10:14
raphinkI had to do it myself10:14
johndarkhorseraphink: type or brand?10:14
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raphinkubuntu : /nick10:14
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raphinkBooZee: lshw gives quite a lot of infos otherwise10:15
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raphinkbut not really great infos about what type of memory10:15
AleksHi people!10:15
raphinkas far as I remember10:15
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[cro] smileyhih all10:15
BooZeethank you10:15
raphinkjohndarkhorse: either10:15
Aleksany one who know what the program name is..., who let me play mp3 files10:15
dabaR_hi, [cro] smiley10:15
[cro] smileywhere can i download ncurses.h ??10:15
mweAleks: there are loads of players that will play mp3s10:16
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mweAleks: you need the codecs though10:16
new2ubuntuthank you Ilba7r10:16
Aleksnwe, how..?10:16
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[cro] smileyi downloaded ncurses-5.5.tar.gz but there is no ncurses.h file. Where can i found it?10:17
Hikaru79Why does Ubuntu come with both ALSA and esd? Don't the two do the same thing? Is it safe to remove esd if I'd prefer to use ALSA?10:17
mwe!restricted10:17
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:17
ilba7rboozee look at this http://jamesthornton.com/redhat/linux/Enterprise/3/Introduction-To-System-Administration/s1-resource-rhlspec.html10:17
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ilba7rnew2ubuntu you are welcomed10:17
Swoop|Around!FreeFormats10:17
ubotuI guess freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats10:17
dabaR[cro] smiley: are you from croatia?10:17
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mweAleks: folloew the wiki ubotu pointed to10:18
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dabaR[cro] smiley: libncurses5-dev10:18
dabaRinstall that through apt-get.10:18
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Aleksnwe, a friend told me that i just can install a program, and then i can play mp310:18
NavireAnybody know  if hotconference use h323?10:18
ElitePetedoes evolution still check for mail when i close it?10:18
axelhello10:18
[cro] smileydabaR yes im from Croatia, why?10:19
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ilba7relitepete no. check gnubiff for light weight check of your mail or xbiff10:19
mwe[cro] smiley: why would you install ncurses from source? It's in ubuntu already10:20
ElitePeteilba7r, are those programs?10:20
DarksunAnyone know why my wireless connection is disconnecting and then reconnecting every few seconds, using ipw2200 in Ubuntu 5.1010:20
ilba7relitepete yes and they just ckeck your mailboxes. They can check gmail too10:20
[cro] smileydabaR, all i need is ncurses.h but i don't have i10:20
[cro] smileydabaR, all i need is ncurses.h but i don't have it10:20
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dabaR[cro] smiley: me too. [cro] smiley install that package. visit #ubuntu-hr10:21
ElitePeteilba7r, good i have gmail, i just dled the package but i dont see it in Internet10:21
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ilba7relietpete and for new mail a message will pop up to notify you with sender and about 5 lines of the message10:21
axelhunger are you still here10:21
axelnice one10:22
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ilba7relitepete try typing gnubiff in a terminal. sorry i use gnome here so do not know where does gnome put it10:22
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ilba7rment i use fluxbox10:22
arctichey there, i want to play netpanzer with a friend; when i start the game it doesnt have sound -> ""open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory" so file is missing, where do i get it?10:22
ElitePeteilba7r, i got it running, can it send mail too or no?10:22
aliencdswow this ubuntu is insane althgouth reading this i feel like a n00b10:23
ilba7relitepete it is just for checking it is not an email client10:23
ElitePeteilba7r, ok how do i move the penguin10:23
ilba7rexactly like gmail check in window10:23
ilba7relietepete try playing with the configuration10:23
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dm1trihi all10:24
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ilba7rright click on the icon to set it up and configure it10:24
dm1trihave a funny question - what is the root password on a default installation of 5.10?10:24
AleksAny one here who know hoe i can see the pc's temperature in linux?10:24
gnomefreakdm1tri, your user password10:24
dm1trignomefreak : ahh nice - thx10:24
gnomefreakyw10:25
Seveas!tell dm1tri about root10:25
viscountIm having a few strange issues with eclipse and it says that I says that I should set my JAVAHOME and CLASSPATH variable in my .bash_profile, but Im not sure what they are supposed to be, does anyone know about this?10:25
gnomefreakSeveas, is your server down or is it just me :(10:25
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Seveas!tell gnomefreak about seveas10:25
ElitePeteilba7r, i cant seem to move it10:25
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ilba7raleks there are programs to do that but you can check it from /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0 and open the file thermal it is updated though so check it everynow and then10:26
apricothello, with witch application can i make partition backup, please?10:26
Seveasviscount, you should install java and eclipse the proper way and you don't need that10:26
ilba7relietepete do not understand what do you mean by move it. where and to where you want to move it10:26
viscountapricot, sbackup10:26
gnomefreakty Seveas10:26
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ElitePeteilba7r, i want to put it on a panel?10:26
apricotthank you very much, bye10:26
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ilba7rright click on the panel and select it elitepete10:27
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ilba7ryou will find it already in the options list10:27
viscountSeveas, I have, but it doesnt work, so now Im exploring other options, for example my $JAVAHOME and $CLASSPATH variables are currently empty, if its already done the proper way I dont think they should be10:27
ElitePeteyay ilba7r thank you10:27
ElitePeteilba7r, can you send me an email? :-)10:27
ilba7relitepete you 're welcomed10:27
Seveasviscount, how did you install java/eclipse?10:28
ilba7relitepete you have to set it up first though10:28
viscountSeveas, setting them is probably going to do a whole lot of nothing, but im just trying to eliminate the option10:28
ElitePeteilba7r, i did10:28
viscountSeveas, apt10:28
Seveashmm10:28
Seveassetting JAVA_HOME to /usr should work10:28
SeveasCLASSPATH can be empty10:28
jgrieveshow can i probe for a kernel module?  speciically ohci_hcd10:29
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viscountSeveas shouldnt I sent it to like /usr/bin/java or something?10:29
pundaijgrieves, modprobe ohci_hcd10:29
pundaias root10:29
Seveasno10:29
bofhi10:29
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jgrievespundai mmmk, then what?10:30
pundaithats it10:30
jgrievesrestart kernel? is it on at boot now?10:30
pundailsmod to make sure its there10:30
pundaiif you want to do it at boot you probably need to add it to /etc/modprobe.d/10:30
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pundaibut i can't recall10:30
ElitePeteilba7r, did you get my msgs10:30
jgrieveslsmod | grep ohci_hd10:31
jgrieves produced nothing10:31
jgrievesoops10:31
jgrievesthere we go10:31
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jgrievespundai required a reboot w/ kernel right?10:31
jgrievespundai its supposedly to get my externel HD to work10:32
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mcjerryis there a channel for vmware?10:32
pundaijgrieves, i suppose its not a usb hd?10:32
pundaimcjerry, this is *FREENODE*10:32
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jgrievespundai its a SATA HD with a sata to usb enclosure10:32
Seveasmcjerry, #vmware is the only channel i could imagine10:33
jgrievesto a usb port10:33
mcjerryyea, i asked prematurely10:33
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mcjerrytyped /join #vmware and there it was on FreeNode10:33
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Aleksilba7r, tanks10:33
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B1zzanyone know of a good network browser gnome? i tried jags but says segmant fault when trying to open my network shares10:34
ilba7raleks you are welcomed10:34
Aleksilba7r, do it round to nearlyest 10?10:34
apricotthe best email client?10:34
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shwagwhat are some good games I can install?10:34
gnomefreakapricot, there is no such thing10:34
apricotthunderbird?10:34
ilba7raleks do not know10:34
pundaijgrieves, i guess you'll have to do some fstab/automount magic...10:34
pundaimy usb drive automagically mounts10:35
gnomefreaki use thunderbird but someone else may perfer evolution10:35
ilba7raleks but you can make a program to chekc it or use lmsensors or one of the gdesklets10:35
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mcjerryi installed the latest vmware on dapper.....i have WinXP on /dev/sda1 already, how can i just run that instance of xp in vmware? I do not want to install another instance10:35
pundaishwag, enemy-terrtiroty10:35
pundaiterritory10:35
apricotevolution?10:35
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jgrievespundai yeah10:35
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Aleksilba7r, tanks, what do your file show?10:35
buliowhats a good bittorrent client?10:35
buliofor ubuntu10:35
apricotplease10:35
jgrievesWorks great with ohci_hcd module, hotplug will pick this up perfectly too.10:35
jgrievessaid10:36
ilba7raleks give me a min to check should be around 5410:36
shwagpundai, yah...seriously. i think i have to register on their site to download though.10:36
pundaishwag, i think bugmenot works on their site10:36
gnomefreakapricot, evolution comes with default install on ubuntu10:36
godzukiI have a serious problem that seems to me unsolvable10:36
Aleksilba7r, fahrenheit or celcius?:P10:36
godzukimy ext3 drive can be written to in kde gui10:36
godzukibut not in cli10:36
godzukiand I can't chmod or anything10:36
B1zzanyone know of a good network browser for gnome? i tried jags but says segmant fault when trying to open my network shares10:36
godzukias root10:36
ilba7raleks 47 and i think it is in C10:36
godzukidoes anybody think they have any idea10:37
godzukiwhy this is10:37
apricotand thunderbird?10:37
pundaigodzuki, whats wrong with nautilus10:37
godzukiit's not nautilus10:37
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Aleksilba7r, ok, my show 40 in ubuntu and around  in windows :)10:37
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godzukiit's the command line10:37
godzukiI can't chmod or chgrp10:37
gnomefreakapricot, its in synaptic10:37
Aleksilba7r, tanks a lot10:37
godzukidespite being root10:37
ilba7raleks you are welcomed10:37
godzukiand being able to move and write files from konqueror10:37
apricotis it good?10:38
Aleksilba7r, ops num lock was off, 39 in win*10:38
apricotbetter than evolution?10:38
ilba7raleks so long it is under 70 in normal condition no need to worry10:38
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godzukiI have an ext3 drive mounted with defaults10:39
godzukithat is owned by me10:39
ilba7raleks and the pc will shutdown automatically if it reach 100 the trip point10:39
gnomefreakapricot, its an email client try one you dont like it you have 35 others to choose from :(10:39
godzukibut cannot be chmodded by root10:39
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godzukibecause ":read only files system"10:39
godzukibut I can write in gui.10:39
Aleksilba7t. :)10:39
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buliowhats a good bittorrent client?10:39
dabaRtell [cro] smiley about ask the bot10:39
Aleksilba7r, :)10:39
chombeeAnyone here managed to get xcompmgr working well?10:39
dabaRsorry10:39
Malach1I can't get SWAT to work.10:39
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ompaulgodzuki, >>sudo fdisk -l<< >>cat /etc/fstab<< >>df<< put the output of those commands in paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:40
Malach1Using VMWare.10:40
annaHello, I want to use nvram-wakeup on Ubuntu Dapper, is it possible?10:40
apricotwhy ext3, is it better than ext2?10:40
annaIn my try, it complains about /dev/mem not accessible10:40
ilba7rtake care aleks and do not worry temperature control is quite good in ubuntu10:40
johndarkhorseapricot: ext3 has journaling (to save your data in a catastophic power outage)10:40
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ovehwhat network manger is the best? is wifi-radar any good?10:41
jgrievespundai any docu on adding modules in modprobe.d?10:41
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apricoti choosed ext3, did i made a mistake?10:41
ompaulapricot, no10:41
gnomefreak!best10:41
ubotugnomefreak: No idea10:41
apricotis it good?10:41
godzukiompaul: what commands? do I need to take out the carrots?10:41
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gnomefreakfigured as much :(10:42
annaapricot, it is what everybody uses10:42
pundaijgrieves, i donno10:42
pundaitry man modprobe.d?10:42
apricotok10:42
Aleksilba7r, thats cool :) I have in the last days inserted my cpu with cooling pasta10:42
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ompaulgodzuki, ^ <<< that is a carrot - the greater than less than signs need to be removed they are three seperate commands to be run in a terminal on the menu -- Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal10:43
apricotok, no more questions10:43
Aleksbbl folkz10:43
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Seveasompaul, caret, not carrot :)10:43
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ilba7rhaha10:43
ompaulSeveas, I bow but am hungry (not) :-)10:43
Digiratquick noob question: how do you switch to superuser in terminal? i just reformatted from mdk10.0 and su doesn't do it anymore10:43
annasudo -i10:44
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gnomefreaksudo10:44
ompaulDigirat, check out sudo10:44
ompaul!tell Digirat about sudoroot10:44
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Alekshow to join a channel on EFnet?10:44
ompaul!tell Digirat about rootsudo10:44
SeveasAleks, /server irc.efnet.net10:44
Digiratthanks :)10:44
Seveas /join somechannel10:44
Aleksseveas, :)10:44
apricoti see no more thunderbird in synaptic, is it true?10:44
Seveasno10:44
annaHello, I want to use nvram-wakeup on Ubuntu Dapper, but /dev/mem is not accessible ?10:45
godzukiompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/617410:45
apricotwhat did i misses?10:45
ompaulapricot, look for mozilla-thunderbird10:45
apricotmissed10:45
gnomefreak!info thunderbird10:45
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Seveasanna, try /dev/ram010:45
godzukithere is thundebird I just got it like 3 days ago10:45
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apricotno such a thing!10:46
apricoti searched!10:46
gnomefreakim thinking its in main10:46
gnomefreakbut may not be and he might not have the right repo?10:46
ElitePetesudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird10:46
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Aleksnoen fra spydeberg her?10:46
ompaulgodzuki, u using a live CD?10:47
annaSeveas, that would be a ram disk, but i rather need that tool to access /dev/mem for some strange reason10:47
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Seveasanna, did you run it as root?10:47
godzukiompaul: no sir.10:47
godzukiompaul: excuse me, no.10:47
ompaulgodzuki, sir is landed gentry :-)10:47
annaOr put elsewise, isn't /dev/mem similar to /dev/kmem ?10:47
apricoti was right10:47
annaSeveas, of course...10:47
godzukiompaul: I beat you to my own correction.10:47
Aleksseveas, if i forgot my password here..., what to do?10:47
SeveasAleks, oassword where?10:48
gnomefreakapricot, hold on10:48
shriefMerry Christmas !!!!10:48
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gnomefreakill tell you what repo you need to enable10:48
Seveasanna, in that case: no clue10:48
annaI looked in man mem10:48
gnomefreakapricot, what ubuntu version are you on?10:48
apricot5.1010:48
annait appears so, the tool wants to use it to find something about my CMOS memory10:48
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annadunno why it cannot go directly to /dev/nvram10:49
Seveasanna, that is very hackish10:49
godzukiI'm sorry, but I'm at my wits end about this here ext3 problem10:49
Seveasthe driver should export a syscall...10:49
godzukiwho here is a guru about filesystems10:49
annaSeveas, it's a tool that will change the BIOS wake up time10:49
ubuntuXis there a way to save settings when using Live CD on Ubuntu?10:49
xenexno10:49
ompaulgodzuki,  what does pwd currently show you?10:49
annaSeveas, so i can make the machine wake up, do something, then sleep again10:49
Seveasah10:50
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xenexubuntuX: no but you can in knoppix10:50
ompaulgodzuki, or where are you on the machine atm?10:50
godzukiompaul: /home/andrew10:50
ompaulgodzuki, hang on10:50
apricoti downloaded thunderbird 3 days ago, but now i see it is not in synaptic10:50
annaOnly that it appears to be struck by some kernel change I guess.... like opening the device for writing which Ubuntu does not allow or so10:50
godzukiompaul: I've been working on this for hours, with help from others10:50
gnomefreakapricot, are you using just the cdrom repository?10:50
ubuntuXwell...such a good distro...but missing a basic thing like that10:50
godzukiompaul: no one knows, I'm thinking about *ugh* reinstalling kubuntu10:50
apricotno, nevermind, i must go now, will continue next time10:50
gnomefreakapricot, thunkderbird is in the main repo10:51
xenexubuntuX: just make a small partition and install ubuntu10:51
ompaulgodzuki, no let me think about this for  a min - the /dev/mapper is strange10:51
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ompaulgodzuki, in my little mind - but I don't let things like this annoy me10:51
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docgnomeWhere does synaptic put the packages it downloads?10:52
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ompaulgodzuki, what happens if you do cd /mnt/brick ?10:52
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godzukiompaul: I can't go there, but it's unmounted right now10:53
godzukiompaul: *can10:53
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ompaulgodzuki, hang on a secv10:53
Moo-Crumpusdocgnome, /var/cache/abs/ ... ?10:53
Malach1How do I restart inetd?10:53
rudizhow i mount my cdrw10:53
rudiz?10:53
pundai/var/cache/apt10:53
rudizhow do i mount cdrw?10:53
ompaulgodzuki, was the fstab created by hand or munging some non ubuntu stuff with what you have now?10:54
docgnomeCrap. Must have deleted them.10:54
jgrieveshow can i auto detect my usb hard drive10:54
docgnomethanks.10:54
ompaulgodzuki, btw I think I have it need to check something10:54
jgrievesi have the module loaded that is needed10:54
Malach1How do I restart inedt?10:54
godzukiompaul: well, ok, I installed kubuntu the other day (my hd corrupted), then I decided with my new hd to try kubuntu10:55
ompaulgodzuki, wrong path ofr a second10:55
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godzukiompaul: so, first thing I do when I fire it up is try the kde disk manager10:55
godzukiompaul: which seemed to work, except I had weird issues with su and kdesu not working10:55
j_Merry Christmas everyone.  I got a new computer for Christmas, and I installed Ubuntu on it, but something is weird with the resolution.  It's a fairly big moniter (1024x768 works well on it), but the only resolution option is 640x480, which is much to small.  I edited the xorg.conf file, but it didn't do anything10:55
godzukiompaul: until I dist-upgraded, and I'm in kde 3.5 now10:55
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godzukiompaul: but, I realized my disk couldn't be written to by most programs, and when chmodding I ran into these issues10:56
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ompaulgodzuki, so you have mixed o/s's versions and added su functionality?10:56
Aleksseveas, here on channel #ubuntu10:56
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Aleksseveas, for nickname reservation10:56
ompaulgodzuki, it is a guess10:56
godzukiompaul: so i went with my gut instinct and did fstab by hand, which hasn't made any difference10:56
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ompaulgodzuki, run this >>sudo mount /mnt/brick<<10:56
godzukiompaul: done10:57
durtum,, i seem to have screwed up my ipod nano - i cant free up any of the memory. do i have to reformat it now?10:57
ompaulgodzuki, df10:57
ompaulgodzuki, does it show?10:57
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SeveasAleks, then ping the freenode staff10:57
godzukiompaul: yes10:57
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ompaulgodzuki, cd /mnt/brick10:57
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godzukiompaul: done10:57
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ompaulgodzuki, does >>pwd<< show  /mnt/brick10:58
godzukiompaul: yes10:58
j_can anyone help me?10:58
Aleksseveas, tanks10:58
ompaulgodzuki, your username is andrew correct?10:58
j_My resolution isn't even usable10:58
godzukiompaul: yes10:58
godzukiompaul: omg wait I just thought of something10:58
godzukiompaul: a couple of days ago I looked at logs, and they seemed to think I had bad blocks on the drive in a couple of places10:59
ompaulgodzuki, >>sudo chown -R andrew:andrew *<<10:59
godzukiompaul: maybe the system isn't mounting the drive right because of file-system errors10:59
ompaulgodzuki, it is mounted at this time10:59
johndarkhorseubotu: tell j_ about fixres10:59
godzukiompaul: I'm not a real whiz at mounting or file-system stuff11:00
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barroayuda11:00
barropara configurar linux11:00
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ompaulgodzuki, did you run that chown command I gave you given that this is not a system but file holding location11:00
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ElitePete!es11:00
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:00
pundaiwell i have to say, usability in ubuntu is approaching that of windows, the same amount of internet keys dont work11:01
pundai:S11:01
godzukiompaul: yeah, it listed each attempt and wrote ":: Read-only file system" at the end11:01
godzukiompaul: and didn't do it.11:01
alex__Anyone here have any experience with mounting samba shares at startup?11:01
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ompaulgodzuki, it may be that the drive is having a lot of issues11:02
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godzukiompaul: what does this mean to me11:02
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durtis it safe to reformat an ipod nano with gparted?11:03
node_6hi all. I'm checking out ubuntu as a desktop os. I come from freebsd but I would like a gaming os as well (probably using cedega). Any comments on how well ubuntu is suited for this would be appreciated. Also, I tried slackware but I hate their (lack of a) package system. It's dependency hell! How is (and what is) ubuntu's package system?11:03
bqfuh, has mplayer been removed from multiverse or am i just being a dumbass?11:03
johndarkhorseubotu: tell bqf about mplayer11:04
pundainode_6, i play enemy territory on it all day long11:04
pundaii think i built cedega once11:04
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ompaulgodzuki, if it was my disk I would do this (A) copy any data I needed from the disk into a directory in the root of my home directory made just for this purpose lets say  /home/andrew/otherdiskbackup (B) I would then format it11:04
ompaulgodzuki, that is what I would do11:04
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godzukiompaul: but... I don't have 200 gigs of backup space.11:04
ompaulgodzuki, so choose what you really need11:05
godzukiompaul: I don't understand why it would be that I can't chown things.11:05
node_6pundai:  I am partial to warcraft 3, kotor 1 and 2, quake 411:05
vandenHi. Brand new to Ubuntu (Badger) and linux. Having problems with hardware on my laptop (Fujitsu S6231). The most alarming problem is the fan works erratically.11:05
vandenGeneral google and forum search didn't give me anything I recognized as a solution :-) I'm happy to give details, but uncertain what's relevant. (A guess is at <http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108270>.)11:05
vandenWhat should I do to find a solution?11:05
ilba7rgodzuki do you know who owns the files you are talking about11:05
godzukiompaul: I do.11:05
godzukiompaul: my andrew user11:05
ompaulgodzuki, first up how must is now in use - try >>df -h <<  and only look11:05
j_can anyone tell me how to fix my resolution?  I changed the xorg.conf file, but it didn't do anything11:06
trevorvwhat command can i use to find out how much free space i have on my hdd?11:06
apokryphostrevorv: df -h11:06
pundainode_6, i doubt you'll have any problems11:06
dabaRj_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:06
definitycan anyone help me fix my kismet11:06
trevorvcheers apokryphos11:06
ompaulj_, try >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<11:06
bqfjohndarkhorse: thanks, i've seen those links - it just appears that mplayer is _not_ in multiverse anymore, i added it. so if somebody would just say "it's in multiverse alright, apt-cache search mplayer shows it right now and my cache is up to date" that'd be appreciated.11:06
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ilba7rgodzuki did you try sudo chown <it might be that you are not the current owner of the files>11:08
cem|merhaba11:08
ilba7rmerhaba cem|11:08
ompaulilba7r, he tried and it failed11:08
johndarkhorse!info mplayer-58611:08
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB11:08
cem|ilba7r :)11:08
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node_6pundai:  which kernel?11:09
ilba7rompaul i guess you trouble shooted too if the file system was mounted as read only11:09
pundainode_6, me?11:09
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pundaiLinux dev 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Fri Nov 18 12:09:04 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux11:09
johndarkhorsebqf: it's all in the name, sir.11:09
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ompaulilba7r, it was not mounted when we started this :)11:10
node_6pundai:  thank you :)  happy holidays!11:10
godzukiompaul: I can't chown them remember11:10
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veerahello, i am a windows user and have just switched over to ubuntu, I have registered myself in an online webstie where i watch movies but those requires windows media player. is there a way i could play those movies in my ubuntu system11:10
godzukiyes11:10
ompaulgodzuki, did you do df -h I want to see if it actually mounted11:10
ilba7rwish you luck ompaul than seems you already are trying what i would have recommended11:10
node_6veera:  mplayerhq.hu I think11:10
apokryphos!tell veera about restricted11:10
Amaranth!w32codecs11:10
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install11:10
pundainode_6, non-denominational of course :D11:10
godzukiompaul: it says it's there and mounted.11:11
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ompaulgodzuki, and what does the /mnt/brick line say that one only11:11
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sexcopter8000manyone have the link to an up-to-date working skype deb?11:11
godzukiompaul: /dev/hdd1             187G  124G   55G  70% /mnt/brick11:11
veerai am sorry. i am kind of new could please walk me through in installing mplayer11:11
Amaranthsudo apt-get install mplayer-68611:12
apokryphossexcopter8000m: what version?11:12
johndarkhorseubotu: tell veera about mplayer11:12
Mandysudo apt-get install mplayer11:12
godzukisomeone should show him automatix11:12
Amaranth!info mplayer-68611:12
ubotumplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB11:12
johndarkhorsegodzuki: please don't advise that11:12
Amaranthgodzuki: automatix is crap11:12
ompaulgodzuki, do you have 124G in your /home ?11:12
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johndarkhorse!automatix11:12
ubotuautomatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!11:12
godzukiompaul: yes I do11:12
godzukisorry everyone11:12
Mannyhi11:12
[Immo] Benjiis there anyway or any reason to disable speed-step so that my CPU runs at max speed at all times11:12
[Immo] Benji?11:12
apokryphosjohndarkhorse: nice ;-)11:12
Mandyhi11:12
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Amaranthhey Manny11:12
ompaulgodzuki, now you know :-) never use that word again11:13
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AmaranthManny: Is gnome-menu-editor dead?11:13
godzukiompaul: but it made my stuff finally work... I'm sad that it's a bad idea11:13
MannyAmaranth, yes, because it isn't used11:13
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lightbrightAmaranth: hey hey11:13
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AmaranthManny: Sorry. :)11:13
godzukiompaul: I don't mean to misguide people11:13
lightbrightManny: some use it11:13
ompaulgodzuki, back to your own issues - what kind of stuff is in there in terms of data11:14
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Mannylightbright, oh well, maybe then I should re-release with a working DND11:14
lightbrightgodzuki: well change your nick then11:14
MannyI thought nobody cares11:14
apokryphosgodzuki: don't worry about it11:14
AmaranthManny: It's a good project, I might learn enough C to work on it. :)11:14
ompaulgodzuki, i.e. is all data or is it data and programs i.e. an old install11:14
durthow do you rename a partition in gparted11:14
godzukiompaul: it's data, music, videos, other documents11:14
AmaranthManny: pyxdg seems to have died, so I'm screwed if I want new features in alacarte11:14
lightbrightMandy: when you generalise and say "nobody" its not good idea, because not "everybody" agrees11:14
ompaulgodzuki, so step 1 >mkdir /home/andrew/Desktop/olddata11:15
Mandy?11:15
godzukiompaul: I don't have the space11:15
godzukiompaul: to do this.  this is years of music11:15
sexcopter8000mapokryphos, it's ok thanks, just found a howto on wiki11:15
apokryphoslightbright: you wouldn't need everybody to agree. You'd just need nobody to care ;-)11:15
Mannylightbright, I'm a GNOME developer, nobody means statistically irrelevant to me :P11:15
apokryphossexcopter8000m: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/11:15
definitycan anyone help me fix my kismet?11:15
lightbrightMandy:  hehe ok ;)11:16
ompaulgodzuki, well get the room - and move it blocks at a time - cos it looks like you are out of luck and if the drive is failing as time goes by you will loose more data11:16
Mandymaqbe11:16
AmaranthManny: Does libgnome-menu have helper functions for menu editing?11:16
lightbrightapokryphos: :)11:16
Mandymaybe11:16
Mandykismet?!11:16
lightbrightapokryphos: you are Greek, are you not?11:16
AmaranthManny: Or would I have to port that stuff to C?11:16
godzukiompaul: how can you tell the drive is bad?11:16
MannyAmaranth, no, I've written it from scratch11:16
Mandylightbright: what you talking about?11:16
MannyAmaranth, I wrote menu editing functions, IIRC11:16
definityMandy yeh kismet11:16
AmaranthManny: Have you seen the pyxdg API?11:16
godzukiompaul: I had my other os drive fail on me just like a week ago11:16
lightbrightManny: thanks for Gnome and investing your time as a gnome developer!  I want to thank you and say there are many who appreciate YOU and your work11:16
Mandywhats the problem with kismet?11:16
Mannylightbright, ;)11:17
lightbrightMandy: I meant that for Manny sorry11:17
MasterTsunamikismet is awesome :|11:17
Mandyk11:17
Mandy;-)11:17
AmaranthManny: Something like that makes things really easy. Alacarte basically became a GUI on top of it, with no menu editing code actually in it.11:17
apokryphoslightbright: indeed11:17
ompaulgodzuki, as it is ext3 I do not know - if it was ext2 I would have an answer for you11:17
lightbrightManny: so thank you for all your hard work11:17
definityit come up with an error saying please configure one packet source11:17
lightbrightManny: thanks for Gnome and investing your time as a gnome developer!  I want to thank you and say there are many who appreciate YOU and your work11:17
lightbrightapokryphos: kala11:17
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Amaranthlightbright: Manny can't be human, he writes patches too fast. :)11:17
Mannyheh, np :). I just want to get more people involved, but they're usually quite reluctant.11:17
bqfjohndarkhorse: thanks for your help, found the reason it didn't work (and yes, the reason was that i'm a dumbass)11:17
ompaulgodzuki, your call if the drive is failing you risk all data11:18
lightbrightAmaranth: hehe ;)11:18
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lightbrightthise developers have super brains :)11:18
godzukiompaul: shouldn't I get a new drive then?11:18
ompaulthat would be a good idea11:18
lightbrightManny: sounds good!  Not too sure what it means exactly, but it sounds good :)11:18
AmaranthManny: Yay, I love that in Windows.11:18
lightbrightManny: :)11:18
new2ubuntuHello..still stuck on trying to get this broadcom card to work, have followed instructions to the letter and still getting 2 errors in locations11:18
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AmaranthManny: When copying from a CD makes everything read-only it's annoying to have to change _every_ file.11:19
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lightbrightAmaranth: whats recursive permission editing? :)11:19
godzukiompaul: well, I'm not really sure what to do about it.  thanks for the help.  any disk diagnostic or file-system sanity check I could run?11:19
definityMandy: it come up with an error saying please configure one packet source11:19
Amaranthlightbright: You set permissions on a folder and it sets those permissions on every subfolder and file.11:19
lightbrightAmaranth: YES I know that, its annyoing11:19
DjDarkmanhy ,i have problems with the sound in skype ,i can voice chat ,what should i do?11:19
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new2ubuntuIs there anyone here who knows anything about installing broadcom wireless cards?11:19
lightbrightAmaranth: ah YES thats great!11:19
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MannyAmaranth, that's exactly the point of the feature. However, some people point out that there is a kernel-level solution for the CD-ROM problem.11:19
Mandydefinity: do it11:19
Mandyin the config file11:20
ompaulgodzuki, do me a minor favour first - >> dh -h | grep home<< and give me the result11:20
lightbrightnew2ubuntu: Seveas would11:20
Mandyyou have to uncomment one line11:20
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ovehyiha ipw2200 works, thanx for the help guys :-)11:20
DjDarkmani have problems with the sound in skype ,i can`t voice chat ,what should i do?11:20
Amaranthompaul: You can just tell it to scan $HOME11:20
oveh!ati11:20
ubotuit has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1011:20
definityMandy: i edited the config file changed evreything like ti said but it still comes up11:20
godzukibash: dh: command not found11:21
godzukibash: dh: command not found11:21
new2ubuntuAye he pointed me to a link in the ubuntu forums and I followed the instructions to a 'T' but...I got two errors near the end and my card still isnt showing up11:21
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definityMandy: what part do i have to edit init?11:21
godzukiompaul: dh not found11:21
ompaulAmaranth, it is not his home11:21
kaffeendaloha11:21
ompaulgodzuki, sorry df11:21
ompaulgodzuki, with the options11:21
Amaranthompaul: df -h11:21
godzukiompaul: 29G  2.2G   25G   8% /home11:21
new2ubuntuIm starting to get frustrated :| 14 hours now and I still have no modem or wireless net :|11:21
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Mandyyou have to uncomment the line where your chipset is11:21
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tkupdoes anyone know of some good finances bookeeping software? I tried gnucash but it's too complicated for what I want..11:22
definityMandy: what you mean as comment11:22
Mandy#11:22
Amaranthnew2ubuntu: The broadcom driver is very alpha.11:22
Mandylines with #11:22
Mandyin the beginning11:22
Amaranthnew2ubuntu: If you're on a PC (not a Mac) you should use ndiswrapper.11:22
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ompaulgodzuki, there is one thing you can try however given the issues you are having I would be loath to run a checker against it in case it made the situation worse - >sudo umount /mnt/brick< >sudo fsck /dev/hdd1<<11:23
johndarkhorsetkup: search sourceforge.net, there are several financial things there11:23
definityMandy: do i take out all the comments?11:23
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Mandyno11:23
Mandyyou have to uncomment the line where your chipset is11:23
new2ubuntuyes I tried, I followed instructions on the ubuntuforums regarding using ndiswrapper with the broadcom.inf11:23
inv_Arpnew2ubuntu: first find your drivers for your card on google11:23
alex__Hey everyone, I was wondering if any of you know how to mount a samba share manually?  I can connect to the shares useing smb://server/share in nautilus, but when I try to mount at the command line, it gives me a generic mount error and tells me to look at kernel output.  Upon doing this, it gives me: smb_fill_super: missing data argument.  I'm not sure what argument it is missing.  Any suggestions?11:23
Mandyread the kismet docu11:23
new2ubuntuI did everything line per line in shell, but it errored out on the last 2 lines11:23
new2ubuntuit said I didnt have permission, but I sudo'ed, and the instructions specifically said not to use root11:24
new2ubuntu:\11:24
kaffeendCan somebody please help me out with installing an app? I have three files here: geomorph-0.31.tgz, geomorph-0.31-bin.tgz, and geomorph-doc-20051125.tgz all are at ./home/kaffeend/Desktop and I don't know how to install them :s11:24
definityMandy now it comes up with FATAL: Illegal initial channel 'initialchannel] ' specified on the sourceline for 'ipw2200'11:24
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definitywhat channel do i put for it?11:25
definitysince there is 1111:25
jgrieveshi i have a Venus DS3 external hard drive, a website shared that "Works great with ohci_hcd module, hotplug will pick this up perfectly too." i was able to load the module with modprobe, but that is as far as i can get, any help?11:25
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godzukiompaul: it says it has a file system with errors, check forced.   here we go11:25
new2ubuntuCan I post a link inroom so that you can see what thread/posts Im following?11:25
jgrievesI can't seem to get hte device to show up in any gui's, and i don't know how to probe for it11:25
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obsrvwhat software I can use for my webcam? I want to capture images, videos and so on :)11:26
ompaulAmaranth, what I am thinking he has is possible disk failure (/dev/hdd1 mounted as /mnt/brick) at some level - suggest get new disk to backup date before attempting disk maintance and rescue what can be rescued however as you can see they went for fsck - heres hoping :-)11:26
paalubotu, tell me about deb11:26
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jgrievespaal use /msg ubotu11:26
jgrievesi think11:26
paalyes11:26
jgrievesubotu, tell me about test11:26
onurhi all am the new ubuntu!11:26
jgrievesah never mind that forma works too :)11:26
jgrievesi haven't used irc in so long11:26
kaffeendhi onur11:26
obsrvwhat software I can use for my webcam? I want to capture images, videos and so on :)11:27
Amaranthompaul: yikes, fsck will kill things11:27
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Amaranthompaul: if it find errors it'll break files to fix them11:27
onur:)11:27
Digiratcan someone please recommend a ftp server that will install easily with apt-get?11:27
ompaulobsrv, well if you waited a while someone may come to your help11:27
jgrieveshi i have a Venus DS3 external hard drive, a website shared that "Works great with ohci_hcd module, hotplug will pick this up perfectly too." i was able to load the module with modprobe, but that is as far as i can get, any help?11:27
jgrievesI can't seem to get hte device to show up in any gui's, and i don't know how to probe for it11:27
ompaulAmaranth, well he kept asking so I said I am loath to do this but hey he owns the disk11:27
paalhmm cant get it to work..11:27
godzukiompaul: it seems to not be doing anything past pass 111:28
godzukidoes that mean I'm in trouble?11:28
ompaulAmaranth, you should know me better than to jump into a possible data loss better than that :)11:28
kaffeendhow do I installo from tar.gz?11:28
kaffeendinstall*11:29
Amaranthompaul: My disk died _twice_. :P11:29
ompaulgodzuki, well you started now neither of us know what it is doing I would leave it a good while an hour or so and see if it moves alone11:29
ompaulgodzuki, along even11:29
godzukiompaul: ok, thanks11:29
ompaulgodzuki, it may manage to fix stuff or it may kill stuff I did say I was loath for you to do this11:30
kaffeendcan someone help me by advising on what questions to ask in here please?11:30
ompaul!ask11:30
kaffeendCan somebody please help me out with installing an app? I have three files here: geomorph-0.31.tgz, geomorph-0.31-bin.tgz, and geomorph-doc-20051125.tgz all are at ./home/kaffeend/Desktop and I don't know how to install them :s11:30
new2ubuntuhmmm,....wellI guess Ill try the same steps again, mebbe I missed something in the threads instructions11:30
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new2ubuntu*shrugs*11:30
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kaffeendtar.gz is just a zip file is that right?11:31
ompaulkaffeend, I don't know that program  tar xzfv foo.tgz then read the docs11:31
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godzukiompaul: I mean, I don't have any way to back it up right now.  it's probably better that I know what's wrong.11:32
kaffeendompaul: sorry?11:32
maxkelleyhey, does anyone know a hex version of the command cat?11:32
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ompaulkaffeend, you have now spoken of tar.gz is not tgz at least in my books - gunzip foo.tar.gz then tar xvf foo.tar11:33
ompaulmaxkelley, xdd may be of use to you11:34
godzukikaffeend: replace foo with the name of the files11:34
Oconnoredoes anyone know where I can get xorg-drivier-gflrx (=8.19.10-1)11:34
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ompaulmaxkelley, hd and dexdump also11:34
kaffeendompaul: I see what you're saying now - I misread the extension :/11:34
OconnoreI can only find 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu1611:34
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ompaulkaffeend, well I still don't know which one you want to do :)11:35
kaffeend.tgz11:35
ompaulmaxkelley, ehh hexdump11:35
godzukiMultiply-claimed block(s) in inode 442370: 104857611:35
godzukiMultiply-claimed block(s) in inode 442370: 104857611:35
godzukiMultiply-claimed block(s) in inode 442370: 104857611:35
kaffeendI just dragged the files in here - lol11:35
godzukiwhat11:35
godzukiwow I'm bad at IRC.11:35
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ompaultar xzvf foo.tgz that will get you the core files then read the docs11:36
kaffeendok thanks11:36
albackerdont know why, but when i download something using wget or even using apt-get i cant use the web [i cant use the browser firefox] /.. it shows looking for webpage.com and nothing.. if i stop the download it opens the webpage.. any idea ? might dialup be the cause of this problem?11:36
godzukiompaul: I have multiple-claimed block(s) it says11:36
Digiratcan someone help me install a .deb.tar.gz11:36
ompaulgodzuki, that is a file system error it may sort that out11:36
ompaulgodzuki, let it work it will produce data11:37
Digiratok, i have it down to .deb11:37
ompaulDigirat, for ubuntu or debian or kanotix or knoppix and which version and what are you running?11:38
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daneGuys please help i think someone has hacked me11:38
lucasvodane: how? why?11:38
danei cant sudo or login no more11:38
Digiratnvm, i got it. google = friend11:38
daneit wont accept my password11:38
kaffeendompaul do I just type in xzvf filename.tgz into a terminal?11:39
lucasvodane: wrong pw?11:39
Seveasdane, check your caps lock11:39
daneI couldnt log into my own account had to make this one, and now i cant sudo or anything11:39
ompaulkaffeend, put tar in front of that11:39
danei have checked my caps,11:39
lucasvodane: wrong keyboard settings11:39
kaffeendok11:39
lucasvodane: maybe this user isn't in the sudoers file11:39
danenah i have tested the keys for my passoword11:39
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kaffeendompaul: I did that and got - kaffeend@ubuntu:~$ tar xzvf geomorph-0.31.tgz11:40
kaffeendtar: geomorph-0.31.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory11:40
kaffeendtar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now11:40
kaffeendtar: Child returned status 211:40
kaffeendtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors11:40
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Seveaskaffeend, don't paste in here11:40
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Seveasand type the correct path to the file11:40
kaffeendSeveas ok11:40
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godzukiompaul: Clone multiply-claimed blocks<y>11:40
smi|eHiguys11:40
godzukiompaul: should I do this?11:41
ompaulgo with the default unless you know otherwise11:41
ompaulgodzuki, and you don't11:41
ompaulgodzuki, as I don't11:41
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FrankyFourFingerany advice on a 802.11g card supported for linux , perhaps of one of d-link?11:42
godzukiompaul: I did what it said and it's done.  here we go again I suppose.11:42
godzukiompaul: I think I may go down for a reboot11:42
daneis there someway i can repair my old account11:42
ompaulgodzuki, has it stopped ?11:42
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godzukiompaul: yeah, it changed like 5 errors and stopped11:42
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ompaulgodzuki, so mount it again and play around11:43
kaffeendok now I'm really lost11:43
danehow do i add this user to the sudoers file please?11:44
kaffeendompaul: I did that and I got a list of files, presumably what's in the .tgz - but I don't know where to go from here11:44
godzukiompaul: IT COMPLETED THE RECURSIVE CHOWN!11:44
obsrvhow do I get lastes software available? What repositories can provide me these? For example I need GWenView 1.31 and I can get only 1.2...11:44
ompaulgodzuki, this is now some windows box where even after putting a plaster on a scratch you have to reboot, you just did something like open heart surgery and you can still use it - ohh and by the way you do need to reboot after you do a transplant though (i.e. kernel upgrade)11:44
ompaulgodzuki, NO NEED TO SHOUT11:44
ompaulgodzuki, s/now/not/11:44
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godzukiompaul: i'm too used to IRC back when I used it a lot.  I apologize11:45
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godzukiompaul: I'll go reboot.11:45
ompaulgodzuki, off and see what you lost - btw I would be looking for a large drive to replace /dev/hdc :) and copy the data just to be safe11:45
ompaulpha! there was no need to reboot11:46
ompaulit was only twiddling with a filesystem11:46
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bashed_has anybody had problems with google and ubuntu? seems that firefox sometimes does'nt wnt to go to google.com, stays stuck on "connecting to www.google.com"11:47
new2ubuntuwhy would I keep seeing a permission denied if Im using sudo?11:47
bashed_if i close and reopen it works11:47
kaffeendis there a wiki about .tgz and installing?11:47
Digirathow would you go about finding pure-ftpd through apt-get ? the readme.debian of pureftpd says that its in the apt-get repository11:47
bashed_then unpredictably, it doesnt work if i close and reopen again11:47
ompaulnew2ubuntu, what are you trying to do?11:47
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bashed_i am also using firestarter11:47
cluei have an empty ext3 partition that i want to format as fat32. could someone tell me how to do this?11:47
bashed_problem is also with mozilla, not just firefox11:47
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new2ubuntutrying to install a broadcom card per the instructions on the unbuntu forums11:48
ompaulclue #windows not really a ubuntu question11:48
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cmathesonclue: use fdisk to change the partition type and then format it in dos, or use mkfs.vfat11:48
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pinkisntwellhas anyone had this happened to them: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21514 ?11:48
clueompaul, cmatheson, thanks11:49
new2ubuntuI have managed to to download and install the ndiswrapper packages, downloaded the appropriate windows drivers11:49
bashed_thanks11:49
kaffeend!.tgz11:49
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kaffeend11:49
Sanneobsrv: gwenview 1.3.1 is in the dapper repository, so you could request a backport for breezy in the backport sections of the forums, or you could make a backport yourself.11:49
danehow can i add someone to sudo please???????11:49
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signifer123 you trying to do?11:49
cmathesondane: adduser some_user admin11:49
johndarkhorsedane: in a terminal, type "man visudo"11:49
new2ubuntubut apparently when I try to write the config file it says I dont have permission?11:49
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danethanks11:50
Digirathow would you go about finding pure-ftpd through apt-get ? the readme.debian of pureftpd says that its in the apt-get repository11:50
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cmathesonDigirat: apt-cache search blah11:50
mwewhat's the number beside the new message count showing in kbiff's floating status?11:51
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new2ubuntuIm following the instructions found on this thread ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 its specifically for the card I have11:51
new2ubuntuIts only the last 2 lines of code that are giving me a fit11:51
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kaffeendompaul: where do I find the "docs" about .tgz install plaese?11:52
johndarkhorseubotu: tell kaffeend about compile11:52
johndarkhorsekaffeend: everything you need to know to be dangerous11:52
cmathesonkaffeend: man tar11:52
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new2ubuntuthe ones that start with the 'for conffile in'11:53
kaffeendthanks johndarkhorse11:53
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obsrvSanne, can I update my Kubuntu 5.10 to dapper?11:53
kaffeendcmatheson: Sorry?11:53
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mweDigirat: you need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list if you didn't, to get pure-ftpd11:53
ompaulkaffeend, you said you had docs when you undo the other files you may find they have install docs or readmes with them11:53
cmathesonkaffeend: were you looking for docs on how to unpack .tgz files?11:53
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ompauljohndarkhorse, hehehehhehe dangerous :)11:53
kaffeendompaul: the docs are assuming it's already installed11:54
kaffeendcmatheson yes I am... do I put man tar into a terminal?11:55
ompaulkaffeend, so untar the others and see if they have instructions and btw follow johndarkhorse's link it will be useful11:55
gnomefreakobsrv, you can yes but i dont recommend it after ive tried it last 6 times :(11:55
node_6which package system does ubuntu use?  same as debian (apt)?11:55
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gnomefreaknode_6, yes11:55
Sanneobsrv: I wouldn't recomend upgrading to dapper, because it's the development version and will possibly brake. It's not stable yet. Only developers and interested users who don't mind a broken system now and then should try it.11:55
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Digiratthank you mwe11:55
cmathesonkaffeend: yes, that will get you the docs11:55
kaffeendompaul - did I untar that other file? :s11:55
kaffeendI can't find it11:56
ompaulkaffeend, you have enough info to get into that at the moment I guess you will need to be more comfortable so will need to read the link in fact stop what your doing now and do that first11:56
lightbrightgnomefreak: hello freak11:56
gnomefreakhello lightbright11:56
ompaulkaffeend, you know how many times did you run that ?11:56
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ompaulkaffeend, I suggest you read johndarkhorse's link now11:56
kaffeendompaul I AM reading it11:56
gnomefreakafter unpacking a tar it should be in same dir the tar is in :(11:57
Moxiedoes the airport extreme work with ubuntu now11:57
kaffeendompaul and I only ran that thing once11:57
Moxiei thought i heard that it did?11:57
node_6gnomefreak:  therefore any debian package is automatically a ubuntu package?11:57
ompaulkaffeend, well you will have to run it against all the tgzfiles you have11:57
johndarkhorseMoxie: it is functioning at an alpha state11:57
gnomefreaknode_6, not really but ubuntu has alot if not most of debians + ubuntus11:58
kaffeend:s11:58
gnomefreaknode_6, what packages are you looking for?11:58
Moxieon which ubuntu?11:58
obsrvI have a webcam Creative NX and it seems that it isn't supported yet. When I can expect it to become supported?11:58
Moxiedapper right?11:58
Moxiedapper drake....or w/e11:58
kaffeendompaul: I'm compiling this thing?11:58
mweobsrv: when someone writes a driver for it, I guess11:59
ompaulkaffeend, you will be11:59
Moxiehow do i get dapper?11:59
gnomefreaknode_6,  a list of packages can be found at packages.ubuntu.com11:59
node_6gnomefreak:  right now I'm thinking of cedega, but it would be nice to know that, for any given app, I could grab the debian package if no explicit ubuntu package was provided11:59
tkupI think I missed the answer for this post: does anyone know of some good finances bookeeping software? I tried gnucash but it's too complicated for what I want..11:59
Moxiedoes anyone use usenet with linux?11:59
johndarkhorseMoxie: ALL linux is enabled by the new driver11:59
cmathesonMoxie: basically... you don't get dapper right now11:59
johndarkhorseMoxie: yes lots of us use nntp11:59
gnomefreaknode_6, cedega is in ubuntus repos11:59
Moxienntp?11:59
Moxiewhats that11:59
kaffeendompaul: but I have never compiled anything in my life11:59
Oconnoredoes anyone know how to obtain xorg-driver-fglrx 8.19.10-111:59
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johndarkhorsetkup: i will repeat myself, search sourceforge.net they have lots12:00
ompaulkaffeend, so you downloaded files to compile12:00

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