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Evil_Whisperhehe I think it would be cool to be able to implement the KDE sys tray in gnome's panel :P12:02
gerst`nause kde than :D12:03
gerst`nalike Torvalds suggested ;)12:03
thecat12my user password works, but my admin password isn't working12:03
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Evil_WhisperIf I could get it to look like gnome I would :P12:05
gerst`nakde is nicer...12:05
Evil_WhisperI prefer the look of Gnome but the functionality of kde :S12:05
gerst`na:DD12:06
_ludois it possible to install realplayer with kubuntu 64 ? because i dont find the pack12:06
Evil_Whisperludo isn't it possible just to use 32bit realplayer?12:06
Evil_Whispertry helix player ludo12:06
Evil_Whisperits a fork of realplayer12:06
_ludook merci ! i ll try12:06
thecat12how do I reset the admin password?12:08
_ludoi don't find the package with adept and i can't read mp3 files. What is the name of the package plz (srry i am a noob)12:08
thecat12(i am a noob as well)12:09
Evil_Whisperone second ludo12:09
_ludook12:09
Evil_Whisperso many terminals open have to find a free one :P12:09
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Evil_Whispersudo apt-get install helix-player12:10
_ludoi ll try thx12:10
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_nano_my flashdrive shows it's 100% full when i plug it in, although its empty. am  i doing something wrong?12:11
_ludoi have an error : "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"12:11
Evil_Whisperludo12:12
gerst`na_ludo, ...12:12
Evil_Whisperdid you use sudo?12:12
_ludoyes12:12
Hobbsee_ludo: do you have synaptic/adept open?12:12
Hobbseeif so, close it12:12
Hobbseethen try again12:12
_ludook12:12
gerst`najust one apt can run12:12
thecat12does breezy have an update?12:13
_ludoit don't find the package.  :(12:13
gerst`nawhich one?12:13
Hobbseewhich package?12:13
Evil_Whisperludo have you enabled universe and multiverse?12:13
_ludo helix-player12:13
Evil_Whisperits in either universe or multiverse12:14
_ludoi ll see12:14
Hobbsee!info helix-player12:14
ubotuhelix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB12:14
Hobbseeuniverse12:14
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_nano_Hobbsee: my flashdrive shows it's 100% full (using df) although it's empty. is there anything more i need to do there?12:16
Hobbseeflash drive is fat32, i take it?12:16
Hobbsee_nano_: i'll tell you in offtopic lol...12:17
Hobbseewont say that command in the main #kubuntu window...12:17
_nano_Hobbsee: i wouldn't even dare askin there :(12:17
Hobbsee_nano_: i'd probably cd to the directory for the usb (ie. media/sda1), then run rm -rf *12:18
Hobbseemake sure you cd into the correct dir first!12:18
Hobbseethey dotn bite12:19
Hobbseeusually12:19
_nano_Hobbsee: ok lemme try and see12:19
Hobbseek12:20
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_nano_Hobbsee: oh gosh...it's not sayin "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"12:25
_nano_*now12:25
Hobbseeis it in /media/?12:25
_nano_it got mounted in /media/sda1 the first time (i'm using it with linux for the first time)12:26
apokryphoshm, very interesting to see the recent http://lwn.net/Articles/160704/ Grumy Editor's guide. Reviews of all the media players12:26
_nano_Hobbsee: oh yeah you're right I do see /media/sda112:27
Hobbsee_nano_: i'm not sure that it usually goes into the fstab or mtab - but you can cd into /media/sda1 then rm -rf *12:27
_nano_Hobbsee: aah everything seems to be mounted readonly12:28
_nano_Hobbsee: sudo rm -rf * shows that all files are mounted read only12:29
Hobbseeer, why...12:29
Hobbseethis is just a standard USB disk?12:30
_nano_Hobbsee: well it's a sandisk mp3 player, but i use it as a flash drive as well12:31
Hobbseehmmm12:31
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coolerhello12:33
coolerhow do I change the kdm theme for kde3.5 ?12:33
Hobbseeuse the program kdmtheme - i think you may have to compile it12:34
apokryphosor just change one line in kdmrc :P12:34
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coolerapokryphos: what line ?12:35
apokryphosit's in /etc/kde3/kdm12:35
apokryphoscooler: the one with Theme=/some/location12:35
coolerhehe12:35
coolercool12:35
coolerthanks12:35
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gerst`nais there for linux an online form filler? like roboform for windoz...12:38
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vvvhi12:44
vvvHi, i have a problem with DNS's, all the times i reboot the computer something modify resolv.conf, i remember tht there was an option, where can i find it?12:44
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slow-motion_n812:45
leafwanyone knows why placing a CD in the tray consumes amzing amount of time and RAM? a kded program is shown running, is t pre-caching the entire CD or what? It basically blocks my computer.12:45
leafwcan it be disabled ?12:46
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_nano_Hobbsee: I do see an entry in the mtab file12:50
_nano_Hobbsee: it says : /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 012:51
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_nano_Hobbsee: that's what I was gonna ask next :P12:52
Hobbseeyou could try changing it to a umask=000, and see if that let you write to it...12:52
vvvHi, i have a problem with DNS's, all the times i reboot the computer something modify resolv.conf, i remember tht there was an option, where can i find it?12:52
_nano_Hobbsee: would i have to umount and mount again?12:52
_nano_Hobbsee: aah sorry :P12:52
Hobbsee_nano_: um, i'd expect so12:52
gerst`nawhat if you put it read only..? I mean the resolv.conf12:54
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jahshuacan someone please help me to open my irssi directory ?12:55
jahshuai cant figure it out :(12:55
Hobbseeyour irssi directory?12:55
Hobbseewhich one would that be?12:55
vvvHi, i have a problem with DNS's, all the times i reboot the computer something modify resolv.conf, i remember tht there was an option, where can i find it?12:56
jahshuaHobbsee this is what i want to do12:56
vvvthere was an option with nopeerdsn or something like that12:56
jahshuaUsage: Copy the .theme file to ~/.irssi/ directory, change the theme with /SET theme12:56
Hobbseevvv: i dont know, you may need to ask in #ubuntu12:56
Hobbseejahshua: so where's the theme now?12:56
vvvi'm using kubuntu12:57
jahshuamy desktop12:57
jahshuai can get into the directory in console12:57
Hobbseejahshua: and your user is tao?12:57
jahshuabut i dont know how to copy the theme there12:57
Hobbseeok, cd Desktop12:57
jahshuayep12:57
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Hobbseecp filename.theme /home/tao/.irssi12:57
Hobbseevvv: i'm not sure if it'd matter - just give it a try there, there are more people12:58
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treakathhey all12:58
jahshuaok12:58
Hobbseehi treakath12:58
treakathhey bow are you12:59
Hobbseetrying to create a chroot with pbuilder, not sure how well it's working12:59
jahshuaHobbsee thanks alot12:59
Hobbseeno problems :)12:59
treakathk01:00
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jahshuahello01:06
jahshuacan anyone explain this statement to me 00:05 < Nei> set the background image in your terminal emulator01:06
apokryphosjahshua: maybe Nei can 8)01:08
apokryphoswhat's the context? What are you trying to do?01:08
jahshuaim setting a theme for my irssi01:08
jahshuahttp://irssi.org/themefiles/stx.png01:08
jahshualike that01:08
apokryphosI won't ask why you're using irssi 8)01:08
jahshualol01:08
jahshuawhat do you use?01:09
apokryphosKonversation/KVirc01:09
jahshuaoh01:09
jahshuai dont like that one :p01:09
apokryphoswhich one?01:09
jahshuakonversation01:09
apokryphoswhy?01:09
jahshuadunno, maybe it reminds me of mirc01:09
apokryphosanyhow, that theme: fake transparency. Just make the console transparent.01:09
jahshuahow can i do that01:10
jahshua:p01:10
apokryphosit's nothing like mirc :)01:10
jahshuaheh01:10
apokryphosSettings > Schema01:10
jahshuaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh01:10
jahshuanice01:10
jahshua:))))01:10
apokryphosseems just like a desperate attempt to make a CLI app look cool, though :P01:11
jahshuawell of course01:11
jahshuaoh01:11
jahshuabut im not desperate01:11
jahshuahaha01:11
jahshua;)01:11
apokryphos...when the real solution is: you probably should be using a GUI IRC client 8)01:11
jahshuanoooooooooo01:11
jahshuaim trying to learn cli01:11
jahshuaso01:11
jahshuai must stay away from gui01:12
jahshuaright now01:12
jahshuamaybe later01:12
apokryphosjahshua: irssi isn't going to help you learn cli, really01:12
jahshuaof course01:12
apokryphos!cli01:12
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org01:12
apokryphos....will01:12
jahshuabut it keeps me in the console01:12
jahshuayep01:12
jahshuahave all of them bookmarked01:12
jahshuaand im reading01:12
apokryphos=)01:12
apokryphosyou should eventually (hopefully) get to the stage when you can determine which is better for a given task, which will always be handy01:13
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psykhow do i unrar files in kubuntu01:14
jahshuasure01:14
apokryphosinstall unrar-nonfree from multiverse, then just: unrar x somearchive.rar01:15
djk_psyk: with unrar-nonfree  -> cli  unrar x foo.rar01:15
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propagandhinew2ubuntu: using ndiswrapper?01:21
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propagandhiexit01:26
Xmasmoohow it is possible to change the default desktop manager later on after installing kubuntu?01:29
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apokryphosXmasmoo: you mean display manager? i.e. which desktop environment to log into?01:30
Xmasmooapokryphos: yes01:31
apokryphosXmasmoo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:31
Xmasmoothanks01:31
_randabisI wanna chew my bubble gum, with you01:39
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Packing_KaiserHi Hobbsee and Hentai^XP01:49
Hobbseehi01:49
Packing_Kaiser:)01:49
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manolistaare xorg 7.0 or 6.9 packages for ubuntu02:03
Packing_Kaiser6.9 are in dapper02:03
raphinkpackages.ubuntu.com and you'll get your answer02:03
apokryphos7 only just came out; of course it wouldn't be packaged yet :)02:04
Packing_Kaiseris 7 stable out?02:04
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apokryphosyup02:04
Packing_Kaiserwoot02:04
raphinkwhat are the changes in 7?02:04
Packing_Kaisergo Daniel ;)02:04
apokryphosstable composite, apparently02:05
raphinkoh nice :)02:05
raphinkso we might have stable 3d stuff when vista is out ;02:05
raphink;)02:05
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Packing_Kaiser:P02:06
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apokryphosjust realised how big an achievement the release is. It's the first major release in more than a decade!02:13
Packing_Kaiserlol. yep02:13
Packing_KaiserX is finaly usefull again02:13
apokryphosshocking ;-)02:14
Packing_Kaiser;)02:14
apokryphosfunny seeing old CLI sentimentalists who'd just respond "GUI actually IS good: more terminals windows at once"02:14
Packing_Kaiserlol. i used to have lots of terminals, then i discoverd tabs ;)02:15
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apokryphosyup. My brother still sticks to xterm; can't live with a terminal without tabs though02:16
douglasHow can I get ipod support in amarok, it's currently broken in breezy it seems?02:16
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apokryphosdouglas: get a later version of amarok02:16
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apokryphoshttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php02:17
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MyWayHi, i'm having problems with my Atlantis router: i set the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf, after this i connect with pon dsl-provider, when i reboot the computer, the resolv.conf is changed and i have to set it again with the dns server, what can i do?02:24
douglasThanks a mill02:26
jahshuahello is there a command to upgrade my amsn  ?02:27
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MyWayapt-upgrade amsn02:29
apokryphosno02:29
jahshuacommand not found02:29
_psykhow do i add sources02:31
djperegrinehow do I make it so it auto loads a module at boot? ( instead of doing modprobe ndiswrapper everytime at boot)02:31
apokryphos!tell _psyk about repositories02:32
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Yv12345vYhello02:36
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Yv12345vYhello, has anybody here experienced sound delays in gaim2.0?02:37
rednaxelhow can I have 2 network configs (like WinXP), where it first tries DHCP and if it fails, set a static IP?02:39
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_psykwhat is multiverse02:42
_psykand how do i use it02:42
rednaxel_psyk, multiverse is a repository02:42
rednaxeluniverse and multiverse - you set them at /etc/sources.list02:43
_psykok well im trying to get to unrar files02:43
_psykand i need unrar non free02:43
_psykfrom multiverse02:43
rednaxelcheck your /etc/apt/sources.list file - it must be there, commented out02:44
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apokryphos_psyk: follow the guide on the link I gave you02:46
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MyWayhi02:55
MyWaysomeone there?02:55
MyWayi have a router: i configured resolv.conf with my dns, i do pon dsl-provider and it works, when i reboot the computer my resolv.conf change and my dns aren't on it02:55
MyWayhow can i do?02:55
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raphinkhmm02:56
raphinkadd a line to your /etc/network/interfaces02:56
raphinkto run pon dsl-provider as pre-up02:56
MyWayhow?02:56
raphinksudo nano /etc/network/interfaces02:57
MyWayok im in it02:57
raphinkthen in the dsl-provider entry02:57
raphinkadd02:57
raphinkpre-up pon dsl-provider02:57
raphinkthen paste the result in a pastebin02:57
raphinkso I can see ;)02:57
MyWayyou mean between this?02:57
MyWayauto dsl-provider02:57
MyWayiface dsl-provider inet ppp02:57
Spudchathappy holidays everyone02:58
MyWaythank you too02:58
MyWayraphink: i did:02:59
MyWayauto dsl-provider02:59
MyWaypre-up pon dsl-provider02:59
MyWayiface dsl-provider inet ppp02:59
MyWay     provider dsl-provider02:59
MyWay# please do not modify the following line02:59
MyWay     pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf02:59
raphinkshould do imo03:00
MyWaydo you think it should work? :O03:01
MyWayit's all the day i'm trying :(03:01
raphinkI think so03:02
raphinkyou can put the pre-up after the other one03:02
raphinkinside the iface03:02
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MyWay# The primary network interface03:03
MyWayauto eth003:03
MyWayiface eth0 inet dhcp03:03
MyWaypre-up pon dsl-provider03:03
MyWayauto dsl-provider03:03
MyWaylike this?03:03
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raphinkhmm03:04
raphinkI'd have said inside the dsl-provider iface03:04
raphinknot sure03:04
raphinkdoesn't matter much I think03:05
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raphinkoops03:05
raphinkanyway03:05
raphinkgoing to bed03:06
MyWay# The primary network interface03:06
MyWayauto eth003:06
MyWayiface eth0 inet dhcp03:06
MyWayauto dsl-provider03:06
MyWayiface dsl-provider inet ppp03:06
MyWaypre-up pon dsl-provider03:06
MyWay     provider dsl-provider03:06
raphinkbye bye03:06
MyWaythis?03:06
raphinkand gl MyWay03:06
MyWaythanks you03:06
MyWayis it good?03:06
rednaxelwhat's best for laptop net config: guessnet, laptop-net, netenv, mobilemesh... there's a lot of them!03:06
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jasonkbhi, I just installed kubuntu and want to install all the development packages I need for kde 3.x development (i haven't maintained kolf in a while ;)  -- is there a faster way than starting out with something like apt-get install make gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 and then finding out as I go what else I need?03:17
apokryphosjasonkb: sudo apt-get build-dep kolf :)03:18
apokryphosjasonkb: you're the kolf developer? :D03:19
jasonkbheh yes03:19
jasonkbhm03:19
apokryphosThank you for your work03:19
apokryphosI only play it rarely, but have a close friend who's a terrible aficionado. :P03:19
apokryphos(disappointed when there was no site to be found for it)03:19
jasonkbah heh03:19
jasonkbthank you03:19
jasonkbI am too!03:20
jasonkbdisappointed, that is03:20
apokryphosanyhow, build-dep is an apt tool that will resolve all dependencies for the given app03:20
jasonkbI lost a way to host it for a while03:20
jasonkband during that time apparently the domain name expired :(03:20
jasonkband I've been too lazy to set up a webpage elsewhere03:20
apokryphosyou can always get a sourceforge account03:20
jasonkbI resurrected the user submitted courses for the time being here tho03:20
jasonkbhttp://web.mit.edu/jasonkb/www/kolf/03:20
jasonkbbuild-dep is very useful03:21
jasonkbthank you!03:21
apokryphosaha! Great link03:21
apokryphosthanks03:21
leafwhow weird, I play golf in reality03:22
apokryphosI'd offer to host the kolf site, but I'm a true randomer to you :P03:23
leafwI didn't know there was a "kolf"03:23
jasonkbkubuntu is very nice, thanks for your work too03:23
jasonkbheh03:23
jasonkbI play on the MIT golf team -- we aren't very good03:23
leafwI'm 3.103:23
leafwbeen playing all life long03:23
leafwhow does one design a game in kolf ?03:24
apokryphosreal golf just isn't for me; any game that has such long breaks (and doesn't involve great thinking in-between i.e. chess) can't be good for you 8)03:24
leafwa course, sorry03:24
leafwthat'd be cool to do03:24
jasonkbstart a new game with a blank course (choose in the ocurses pane)03:24
jasonkbthen click the pencil on the toolbar to edit03:24
leafwlet me apt-get it first03:24
jasonkbheh okay03:24
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MyWayIs there a command for configure a router? pppoeconf or something?03:25
jasonkbI'm a tad disappointed no kdegames are installed by default on kubuntu but it's understandable03:26
MyWayjasonkb: run ur package manager and install games03:26
jasonkber I already did03:27
jasonkbbut03:27
apokryphosjasonkb: does it have any games by default actually?03:27
jahshuahello can someone please tell me what sudo apt-get clean  will do ??03:27
leafwjahshua: delete all the .deb packages03:27
apokryphosjahshua: take out all debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/03:27
jahshuawhat does that mean tho03:28
leafwjahshua: that where used to install applications from. No apps will be deleted.03:28
jahshuado i want to that ?03:28
jahshuai have been told to do it03:28
jasonkbapokryphos: seems not03:28
apokryphosjahshua: when you install packages with apt, it downloads them to a location before it installs them. apt-get clean takes all of those old ones out03:28
leafwjahshua: it frees hard drive space03:28
jahshuaok great03:28
apokryphosjasonkb: hm, indeed. Sounds like a bug :P03:29
jasonkbah03:29
jasonkbhow does one orchestrate a fix?03:29
jahshuaso when i do sudo apt-get where do the packages go? for instance i did sudo apt-get earlier for amsn and now i want to remove it, so how do i find it03:30
apokryphosjasonkb: might either add the suggestion on the wiki page or ask jonathan about it03:30
jasonkbokay03:30
jasonkbdoes ubuntu install any games by default?03:30
apokryphosjahshua: you want to remove amsn from your system, or just the amsn .deb?03:30
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jahshuawhats the difference03:31
jahshuai dont really know :(03:31
leafwjasonkb: it doesn't.03:31
jasonkbah..03:31
apokryphosjahshua: think of the .deb as an .exe, if you like03:31
jahshuaok right03:31
leafwjasonkb: CD space is reserved for openoffice and so.03:31
jasonkber, an installing exe03:31
jasonkbleafw: hm okay03:31
jahshuaok so i want to remove it from my system ... i got a new .deb from sourceforge03:32
apokryphosleafw: it does, actually. gnome-games_2.12.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb03:32
leafwapokryphos: they don't appear in the kubuntu K-menu in any case03:32
apokryphosleafw: kubuntu doesn't, sure. Default ubuntu installation has some though03:33
leafwperhaps I chose not to install them? I thought I did a straightforward install.03:33
leafwph, I see.03:33
apokryphosjahshua: ok, then sudo apt-get remove amsn03:33
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apokryphosjahshua: it's really a good idea to start off with a GUI package manager. Try out adept03:33
jahshuaok im just trying to learn cli03:33
jahshuathats all03:33
apokryphosok, sure03:34
apokryphosyou should acquaint yourself with man pages -- you'll find them eternally useful :)03:34
jasonkboh *phew* kolf doesn't start out playing a blank course any more the first time runs it03:34
jahshuayeh03:34
jahshuathere are lots of them!03:34
jahshuahehe03:34
jasonkbmy maintainership has been so nonexistent I forgot if 'd changed that03:34
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apokryphoshi Mez :)03:35
Mezhey :D03:35
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Mezevening seth_k|lappy03:37
leafwdoes anyone know what the 'kded' is doing on the background when I insert a CD. Is it a pre-cache or something? It kindda stalls my powerbook03:37
Seanaagh, I'm having some horrible problems with my ipod.  Anyone willing to help?03:37
leafwcan it be disabled ?03:37
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troySean: what program are you using with it?03:38
SeanI'm trying to get my ipod to enumerate as /dev/ipod whenever it's connected to the computer.03:38
troySean: are you using breezy?03:39
SeanYeah03:39
_psykhow do i edit sources.list in root mode?03:39
SeanKubuntu seems to be ignoring the udev rule I made for the ipod03:39
troySean: the /dev mount shouldn't matter -- it'll mount to /media/ipod using KDE, and that's where all the programs (such as gtkpod) expect it03:39
_psyki do i access sources.list in root mode?03:39
leafwsudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list03:39
apokryphos_psyk: if you followed the instructions on that link, you wouldn't need to edit it directly like that 8)03:40
troyor sudo nano, if vim makes your skin crawl03:40
Seantroy: I have no /media/ipod03:40
Mez_psyk, k menu->run command -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:40
troySean: it should be created for you when the ipod is plugged in, when using default breezy settings03:40
troyI think hald actually takes care of that03:41
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Seantroy: ipod's plugged in, it's not created dynamically.  although the IPOD icon does appear on my desktop and I can browse the device's filesystem03:41
Seanipodslave also cannot find the device03:41
troySean: hrmm, try running 'sudo update-usbids' and see if that helps03:42
troySean: the IPOD icon on your desktop, if you mouse-over it, does it tell you what device it is listed as?03:43
Seantroy: /dev/sdc2 is what the tooltip says03:43
troyand in /media you have /media/sdc2 ?03:44
Seantroy: yes03:44
Seantroy: but it isn't consistently enumerated as sdc2; sometimes it's sdb, sometimes it's sda depending on what i've got connected at the time03:44
Seantroy: i tried to symlink it to /media/ipod, but that seems to not work as well.03:45
troyokay - that's where it's behaving differently than my systems.  instead of sdc2, I get 'ipod' listed -- so I think it's something with the usb storage layer in hald or usbd, not in the /dev folder03:45
troySean: try gtkpod when that symlink is active (not the ipod slave, which is flaky at best)03:46
Seangtkpod doesn't have a huge problem with it, i just detest the interface03:46
Seanbut it's kludgy to have to re-symlink it when there are other devices active03:46
troyI agree, however the ipod slave wouldn't register more than 256 songs for me, even when I put more than 256 on the device -- it wasn't updating the database on the ipod properly03:46
troyso I just use gtkpod now03:47
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Seanwould a reinstall of Breezy Kubuntu and an immediate apt-get update and upgrade do the trick?  This install just happened today03:47
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jeff_hey guys03:48
troythe /media/ipod folder should just be created, at least it does on both of my machines03:48
jeff_can anyone tell me what katapult does?03:48
SeanThe only thing I've got on here is 855resolution, which is easy to configure03:48
troybrb,phone03:48
jeff_what does katapult do?03:49
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jeff_guys?03:50
Yv12345vYhas anybody here experienced problems with sound in gaim??03:51
SeanI turn sound off in gaim :)03:52
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sampan_jeff, katapult is a convenient app launcher03:57
sampaneerrrrr jeff_ that is ... press alt-space and then type the first few keys of the apps name03:58
sampani was told that, doesn't work with all apps, only those with kde .desktop files03:58
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jahshuacan someone pleeease remind me of the command to open tar.gz file04:00
jahshuadpkg something ;(04:00
leafwtar xvzf ...04:01
jahshuaohhhhhhhhh04:01
jahshuayes04:01
jahshuai wasent even close04:01
jahshuaheh04:01
leafwkonqueror may unpack it for you04:01
_psykmaaaaaaaan this sources.list thing has got me all confused04:01
leafwif you double-click04:01
leafwwith 'Ark'.04:01
jahshuayeh i want to use cli04:01
jahshua:p04:01
jahshuatrying to learn it04:01
leafwnp, I only use CLI.04:01
_psykis there a way to bring my source back to the original04:01
leafw_psyk: always make a backup first.04:02
jahshualeafw: respect.04:02
leafwyou can search for source.plist at google and find someone showing an example one04:02
jahshuahrm ok i tried tar xvzf amsn-0.95.tar.gz04:02
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jahshuadidnt work04:02
leafwor read docs and make it manually yourself.04:02
leafw!?!?04:03
ubotuWish i knew, leafw04:03
leafwwhat's the error message jahshua04:03
sampanor you can use source-o-matic and let ubuntu generate a sources.list for you04:03
sampan!easysource04:03
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:03
leafwsampan: good one, I didn't know about this ubunturese thing04:03
jahshualeaf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/617804:03
sampanleafw  yeah it's a nice thing -- i've never just copy-pasted it, but it's nice to have it generate different parts which i can paste into mine04:04
jahshuamaybe i got the wrong file for my distro ?04:04
leafwjahshua: first cd to the proper directory where the file lieves.04:04
leafwjahshua: tar won't install anything, only unpack.04:04
jahshuaok04:04
jahshuagotcha04:04
leafwsampan: ok04:04
_psykhhaahaaa04:05
_psykim a geniius04:05
jahshuawoaaah ok so a whole bunch of scroll04:05
jahshuaso now what04:05
jahshuaheh04:05
leafwnow04:05
jahshuai unpacked it04:05
leafwdo a 'ls'04:05
leafwand see if there is a folder named "amsn-0.95" or so04:05
jahshuayep04:05
leafwcd into it04:05
jahshuaok04:05
leafwdo a ls04:06
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leafwand see if there is a config file04:06
jahshuagreen 'configure'04:06
leafwthen, type ./configure   ,  then   make install clean04:06
jahshuaand config.tcl04:06
jahshuaok04:06
leafwjahshua: but an apt-get would make it all easier.04:06
leafwwhy compile from source ?04:06
jahshuaoh i know that04:07
leafwok04:07
jahshuaim just trying to learn04:07
leafwthen, don't do make install clean.04:07
jahshuathanks for your help :)04:07
jahshuaok04:07
leafwjust do    make04:07
leafwand see if it fails or what04:07
jahshuaafter ./configure04:07
leafwyes04:07
jahshuak04:07
leafwwhen it compiles fine, then do make install.04:07
leafwand make clean04:07
leafwand04:07
jahshuahmm04:08
jahshuachecking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev04:08
leafwto the ./configure yo ucan most times handle a --prefix=~/my_folder/whatever/04:08
jahshuathat was at the end of the output04:08
leafwjahshua: so Tcl-dev (the header files for the Tcl package) is not present04:08
leafwyou can apt-get it.04:08
jahshuaright04:08
leafwor 'Adept'04:09
jahshuajust tcl-dev ?04:09
jahshuaT04:09
leafwdo:  sudo apt-cache search Tcl04:09
leafwthis will list what's there for Tcl04:09
jahshuaok if the text scrolls off the window04:10
jahshuahow do i scroll up04:10
leafwwith page-up04:10
leafwanother alternative is:    sudo apt-cache search Tcl | more04:10
jahshuadoesnt work04:10
jahshuapage up04:10
leafwso it all goes into a temporary editor.04:10
leafwyou can scroll then with space bar (screenfuls), or arrows04:10
leafwor vi style, with j,k04:11
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leafwand do a search with /dev  or /Dev04:11
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leafwthe   n   goes to the next found word.04:11
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jahshuahehehee04:11
jahshuaok04:12
leafwread up.04:12
ssdoanybody here having problems with kubuntu usplash especially during shut down?04:12
jahshualeafw i have been for two weeks.04:12
ssdoanyone have a solution?04:12
jahshuaheh04:12
leafwjahshua: welcome then.04:12
jahshuatell me how to scroll up again, please :)04:12
leafwinside the  more ?04:13
leafwwith arrows, or with j and k04:13
jahshuaneither works04:13
douglasMy sister got an iPod Video for x-mas, she of course runs windows and copied a large playlist of music to the device. She then asked me to copy my music to it, knowing that amarok 1.3.7 has good support for it. So I just now copied the music she wanted, and all of the sudden, artists with names after the letter j do not show up? What's up with this?04:13
jahshuaim inside the bash shell04:13
leafwok04:13
leafwfirst:04:13
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leafwrun this:    apt-cache search Tcl | more04:14
leafwif yo upush 'q' you quit the 'more' editor.04:14
leafwso don't push 'q'.04:14
jahshuaok04:14
ssdowhat channel is KDE forums?04:14
jahshuaright04:14
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jahshuaso i found something that says amsn an msn messenger written in tcl04:18
leafwjahshua: to compile amsn yo uneed the header files for the Tcl package04:19
leafwwhcih means, the tcl-dev package04:19
jasonkbjahshua heh just to make sure, do you realize Kopete (installed by default on kubuntu) will let you hook up to MSN messenger?04:19
leafwin Adept you'll find it in 10 seconds.04:19
jahshuai cant even scroll up or down04:19
jahshualol04:19
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jahshuaanother day04:19
leafwso early04:19
leafwxD04:19
jahshuajasonk yes i know04:19
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jahshuaLOL i cant scroll!04:20
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jahshuaits driving me crazy04:20
jahshuai tried j and k04:20
jahshuaand page up/ down and arrows04:20
jasonkbuse the enter key04:20
jahshuaerm04:20
leafwinside the 'more' or where, in a terminal?04:20
jahshuathat just gives more text04:21
jahshuawell more is highlighted right now04:21
leafwyou can do:  xterm -sb -sl 10000  and this will have a scroollbar for your mouse.04:21
leafwthe 'more' is a program you pipe the output of the  apt-cache search command to.04:21
sampanto end "more" hit "q"04:22
jahshuaright04:22
jahshuai got all that04:22
jasonkbtry shift-pageup and shift-pagedown to scroll a terminal with no scroll bars04:23
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jahshuanope04:23
leafwjahshua: x86 or a ppc ?04:24
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leafwdoes your computer have a 'fn' key at the lower left ?04:24
jahshuano04:24
leafwyou may need to press it to activate the page-up -down04:24
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trentonany quick tips for a gnome user switching over to kde? it become too much of a memory hog for me04:26
leafwtrenton: k3b for burning CDs, right-click on desktop for a menu with "Run Command" and "Logout" ...04:27
ggilbertkio slaves are your friend :)04:27
trentonnoticed that synaptic is known as adept too.. more feature rich, am liking it :)04:27
ggilbertoh and unmap the dump keybinding of shift-ctrl-alt-delete to log out immedietly :)04:27
jasonkbtrenton play kolf? as far as I can tell a minigolf is the only notable difference between kde and gnome04:28
jasonkb:)04:28
trentonshould i play kolf is a better question!04:28
trentonand one last possibly dumb question.. are there 'desklets' such as gdesklets for kde?04:29
trentonmissing my weather information but thats about it04:29
ggilbertsuperkaramba does someothing similar04:29
jasonkbtrenton: natch, you should play kolf04:30
ggilbertI can never see my desktop to use it though04:30
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ilba7rtrenton there used to be an application called kweather04:30
ilba7rjust need some work setting it up04:30
jasonkbthere's a weather panel applet at very least you can try04:30
trentonexcellent. you guys are as helpful as the regular ubuntu crew and then some. gotta run but i hope to swing by more often :)04:31
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jasonkber, shit, I need copies of both qt 3 and qt 4 -- did just installing libqt4-core and friends overwrite my qt3? if not, what's QTDIR for qt 4?04:33
jasonkboh04:34
jasonkb /usr/libl/qt4, duh04:34
jasonkbI'm sorry04:34
ggilbert:) no worries. It isn't immedietly obvious04:34
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jahshualeaf: ok i feel terrible.04:36
leafwjahshua: why, what happens now04:36
jahshuai gave in and used adept :(04:36
treakathhey dose any1 no where to get the linux download of firefox???04:36
jahshuai looked for that tcl header though04:36
treakathfrom04:36
jahshuacouldnt see it anywhere04:36
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jahshua<- lame04:36
leafwno need to whip your back04:37
ggilberttreakath: for ubuntu? apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:37
leafwI use adept all the time04:37
treakathwhat about kubnutu04:37
`Nomad!FreeFormats04:37
ubotuit has been said that freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats04:37
ggilbertsame04:37
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ggilbertubuntu and kubuntu use the same package store04:38
leafwit's named tcl8.3-dev what you need.04:38
treakathok04:38
ggilbertThey're sort of two different configurations of the same distribution04:38
leafwjahshua: tcl8.3-dev04:39
treakathcant find where ypu download it from tho04:39
jahshuaok04:40
jahshuaso what do i do with that04:40
leafwinstall it.04:40
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leafwfrom Adept.04:40
leafwor from sudo apt-get install04:40
leafwit's a dependency of the amsn package04:40
leafwor the amsn source code, that's what you have.04:41
leafwyou need those headers for compiling amsn.04:41
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jahshuaok04:41
jahshuaso after thats done04:41
jahshuadone now04:41
leafwthen go back to ./configure04:41
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leafwcd to the folder, then ./configure04:42
jahshuachecking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev04:42
leafwyou may have to tweak the ./configure file, or pass env vars to it04:43
leafwto tell it where is the tcl-dev04:43
leafwas I said, this is why the package system was invented.04:43
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jahshuaright04:44
jahshuaso can i just remove all this and use adept04:44
jahshualol04:44
leafwright04:44
leafwxD04:44
jahshua:(04:44
leafwor apt-get04:44
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jasonkber, everybody wins :)04:45
leafwjahshua: or apt-get to fetch a source package and see it compile it04:45
leafwif that amuses you04:45
jahshuaso what about this tar file04:45
leafwjust remove it.04:45
jahshuado i have to remove it04:45
jahshuaor i can just drag it t the bin04:45
leafwtype:   man rm   and read04:45
leafwor drag it to the bin04:46
leafwxDD04:46
jahshua:)04:46
jahshuak04:46
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jahshuaok so to watch it compile .. sudo apt-get amsn  ?04:48
leafwno04:49
leafwxD04:49
leafwman apt-get04:49
jahshualol04:49
leafwsee what it can do.04:49
jahshuaok04:49
jahshua:P04:49
leafwscroll with arrows, space, or j.k again.04:49
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`Nomadwoahhh!!  I just upgraded to KDE 3.5 and my machine now seems twice as fast!  Is that fo rreal?04:53
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jasonkbhi aseigo04:56
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sophie__exit05:17
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treakathhey all05:17
Packing_Kaiserhey05:18
treakathhey how aare you05:18
Packing_KaiserI'm packing stuff.05:18
treakathsnake05:19
treakathyou there05:19
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jahshuacan someone please help me with this error05:32
jahshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/617905:33
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jasonkbkcontrol doesn't start after that, jahshua?05:36
jahshuayeh it does05:36
jahshuaim just wondering about that error05:37
jasonkbi guess it's not a problem05:37
jasonkbI've never seen it so I can't say for sure tho :(05:37
MasterTsunamianyone running kde3.5 ?05:39
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bam_any good tutorals on setting up a bluetooth network?05:47
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macwhy when I press "Administrator Mode" button in "System Settings" dialogs I just get a red outline for the client area of the window, but nothing inside of it???05:54
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jahshuais telnet dangerous ?07:04
jasonkbdangerous as in someone can more easily sniff out your password, I suppose07:05
sampantelnet sends the information in plain (unencrypted text), so if someone is watching your packets they could easily see any login names and passwords you send over telnet.  but that's only dangerous if you're sending sensitive information07:07
sampani use telnet to connect to berkeley's online library database all the time -- no sensitive information only searches for titles, authors, call #s, etc.; so there's no risk07:08
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jahshuaright07:28
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rohanhi all07:43
rohanwhy does kubunu not have the "desktop access" applet ?07:43
Hobbseerohan: it does...07:43
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Hobbseeright click on kicker, add applet, desktop access07:43
rohanHobbsee: cant find it. atleast not in default kde 3.4.307:43
rohanHobbsee: right, thats what i am doing.07:44
Hobbseeah07:44
Hobbseetry for show desktop07:44
rohanoh... thats not present too.07:44
Hobbseereally?07:44
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Hobbseei'm sure it was there in 3.4.307:44
rohancant say. i will check, when i next boot into ubuntu. :)07:45
Hobbseeit's a kde thing, not the same as gnome, i suspect07:45
rohani wouldnt know. i have never used gnome.07:45
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ejofee!seveas07:47
ubotumethinks seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:47
rohanHobbsee: i do, but right now i am another os..07:47
rohanthe os which is named in bug #1 on malone :P07:48
Hobbseehehe07:49
Hobbseethat dreaded one07:49
rohanyes. unfortunately :(07:50
fyrmedic07:54
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owner989does konqueror crash for anyone else when viewing links with embedded videos?08:42
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owner989this room is so dead compared to the ubuntu room08:53
Hobbseeowner989: it's christmas, in a lot of places, still...08:54
Hobbseebut at times it does go very quiet08:54
owner989yes08:54
owner989merry xmas08:54
Hobbseeyou too08:54
Hobbseeanyway, which version of konq, and a link with an embedded video, so someone can test it?08:54
Sneaky_Bastardus kubuntu people are a rarer breed....08:55
Sneaky_Bastard...we're people of quality08:55
Hobbseethat too08:55
Packing_Kaiserlol.08:55
owner989i have kde 3.508:55
Packing_Kaisersuppose that makes  me a bastard :|08:55
Packing_Kaiser(in the dictionary sence)08:55
Sneaky_Bastardmaybe I should spell that Kwality08:56
Hobbseewell...lol08:56
Sneaky_Bastard:p08:56
owner989 hobbsee, let me find one08:56
Hobbseeok08:56
Packing_Kaiserlol Sneaky_Bastard08:56
owner989here is an example08:57
owner989any myspace link with embedded vid or music08:57
owner989eg http://www.myspace.com/scarredgal08:58
owner989try it08:58
MezSneaky_Bastard, can you please change your nick - I'm afraid some people might find it offensive08:58
Hobbseeah, i see08:59
Hobbseeand you get errors about it?08:59
owner989did it crash you08:59
Hobbseeyeah09:00
owner989sometimes i get an alsasink error09:00
owner989or something09:00
Hobbseesegmentation fault09:00
Hobbseeyeah, that was what i got first time around09:00
Hobbseebugs.kde.org09:00
Sneaky_Bastardif I am required to do that, I will drop this network from my list09:00
Sneaky_Bastard>:(09:00
HobbseeSneaky_Bastard: well, go have a look - does your nick violate the COC?09:01
Hobbsee!coc09:01
ubotuconduct is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:01
Sneaky_BastardI'm old enough and techie enough to deserve my nick of 10+ years09:01
MezSneaky_Bastard, fair enough - I understand that you're old enough :D but there are some people who arent...09:01
owner989so hobbsee, do you think there is any solution09:01
Sneaky_Bastarddoesn't say "never offend anyone"09:01
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owner989because otherwise konq is a nice browser09:02
MezSneaky_Bastard,  ... ?09:02
Hobbseebe considerate - it's inferred09:02
Sneaky_Bastardok, I've had quite enough of self-righteous people trying to push me around09:02
Sneaky_Bastardgood bye09:02
Meznot trying to push you around... just asking you to think of the kids09:02
owner989lol09:02
Mezweird09:03
MezI asked nicely09:03
Mezah well09:03
Packing_Kaiser*shrug*09:03
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Hobbseeowner989: solution would be file a bug, i suspect...as for what else you could do...09:03
MasterTsunamiman, i should have stayed with gnome :/09:04
Hobbseeis there an alsasink plugin for konqueror?09:04
MasterTsunamikde has been nothing but trouble since day1 :(09:04
sampanheresy!09:04
HobbseeMasterTsunami: some people say the same thing about gnome :P09:04
MasterTsunamiat least gnome wouldn't lock up when i switched modulare bay items :/09:04
MezMasterTsunami, Linux has been a problem for me since day 1 - but I enjoy working with it :d It's fun fixing things :D09:05
owner989gnome components are more stable09:05
owner989but there are less gnome apps09:05
Hobbsee!start a desktop war09:05
ubotuHobbsee: Syntax error in line 109:05
Mezowner989, yet stll - some of the best apps are gnome apps09:06
Hobbseeah drat, it's gone lol!09:06
Mezlol @ ubotu09:06
MasterTsunamilike what09:06
sampanaren't all OS "trouble" in one form or another?  it's a defining characteristic09:06
Hobbseehehehe @ sampan09:06
sampan;D09:06
Packing_Kaiseri think software is the word your after, not os ;009:06
Hobbseei suspect it is, yes09:06
MasterTsunamii have no issues with linux at all09:06
sampanpacking_kaiser  yeah, it probably could be broadened out to include all software09:07
MezMasterTsunami, there's just those lil annoying bugs that you'll get with anything :D09:07
Mezlol09:07
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Mezbut at least in linux you can fix them09:07
MezPacking_Kaiser, xhost _09:07
MasterTsunamia complete system crash isn't an "annoying" bug :/09:07
Mezs/\_/\+/09:07
MezMasterTsunami, never had that09:07
owner989master did you update to kde 3.509:08
MasterTsunamii did :|09:08
owner989what kind of crash do you get09:08
Mezck09:08
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MasterTsunamiwhen i switch my modular battery for the cdrom or vice versa, the system locks up and crashes after a while :|09:08
MezMasterTsunami, have you tried "ubuntu" with that to see if it's not a kernel thing ?09:09
Mezor are you sure it's kubuntu09:09
owner989is that a laptop master09:09
MasterTsunami<MasterTsunami> at least gnome wouldn't lock up when i switched modulare bay items :/09:09
MasterTsunamiyes it's a laptop09:09
MasterTsunamiand yes it's a kde thing09:09
owner989did you switch to kdm09:09
owner989or still using gdm09:09
MezMasterTsunami, you didnt specify gnome in ubuntu :D09:09
MasterTsunamikdm09:09
owner989you can still reinstall gnome09:10
owner989with synaptic09:10
MasterTsunamii understand this :|09:10
owner989and use both09:10
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MasterTsunamibut why would i want to do that? :/09:10
MasterTsunamimeh, i'll just file the same bug i did for ubuntu09:10
MasterTsunamiand hope the kubuntu people fix it :/09:10
MezMasterTsunami, it was a problem in general ubuntu too - not just kubuntu ?09:11
MasterTsunamiback in warty it was09:11
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MasterTsunamibefore kubuntu existed :D09:11
MezMasterTsunami, ah - then have you tried it to see if it's a problem in plain ubuntu yet ? cause it may just have been the bug resurfacing09:12
MasterTsunami>_<09:12
MasterTsunamiit..is..not...a problem..in..ubuntu09:12
MezMasterTsunami, seeing as kubuntu and ubuntu use the same base - kernel etc - the only ifference is the window manager ...09:12
MasterTsunamionly in kubuntu! :|09:12
Mezok09:12
Mez:D09:12
owner989agreed mez09:12
MasterTsunamilol09:12
Mezglad thats clarified09:12
Mezit may be a problem in ubuntu still though :D09:12
Mezjust - doesnt surface in gnome :D09:12
owner989you mean kdm09:12
MasterTsunamithis is possible ;)09:13
owner989as opposed to gdm09:13
MasterTsunamior perhaps it is just 3.5?09:13
MasterTsunamii honestly didn't try it with 3.4.309:13
owner989a lot of people are switching after linux torvalds comments09:13
owner989about gnome09:13
MasterTsunamiwhat comments?09:13
Mezlol @ owner989 /me has been a fan for a while09:13
MasterTsunamii just wanted to try it :/09:13
MasterTsunamii tried xubuntu to but meh :/09:14
owner989fluxbox is good too09:14
owner989but minimalistic09:14
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MezMasterTsunami, http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html09:14
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MasterTsunamiactually gnome, xfce, kde...it's kind of like picking the biggest runt of a litter of runts :/09:14
MezMasterTsunami, why not make your own ?09:14
Packing_Kaisero_009:15
Mezor use the shell ? :P09:15
Packing_Kaiseror both ;)09:15
Packing_KaiserSDM (shell display manager)09:15
MasterTsunami:P09:15
Mezlol09:15
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MezPacking_Kaiser, isnt that called xterm ?09:15
Packing_Kaisersdm -n (of shells) -s (size in px) ;)09:15
Packing_Kaiserlol. basicly09:15
Mez:P09:16
Packing_Kaiser:D09:16
MasterTsunamiyes. little ol me will make his own display manager to compete with KDE and GNOME, which have taken years to get to where they are ;)09:16
MasterTsunamilol D;09:16
MezMasterTsunami, or just edit KDE/gnome :D09:16
Mezto be to your liking09:16
Packing_Kaiserthere you go, initiative :D09:16
Mezor we could all make UDM09:16
MasterTsunamisome sort of twisted hybrid?09:16
Mez:D09:16
MasterTsunamiKnome? :O09:16
Packing_Kaiserlol09:17
Packing_Kaiserbut Gnome stands for something09:17
MezMasterTsunami, GnoDE :D09:17
Packing_Kaiserwhacking a k in would not be good ;)09:17
owner989gnome and kde used to stand for something09:17
owner989but now they are just names09:17
Packing_Kaiserthey do still09:17
MezKDE stands for K Desktop environment :D09:17
Packing_KaiserK Desktop Environment09:17
MezKool Desktop Environment09:17
Packing_KaiserGnome is GNU Network something something09:18
Packing_Kaiserlol09:18
Mezor is i09:18
Mez[direct link]   Kopernicus Desktop Environment09:18
MasterTsunamimaybe ;D09:18
Mezhttp://www.dgl.com/itinfo/2000/it001025.html09:18
MasterTsunamilinux in the closet, osx on the desk! that's what i say ;)09:18
MezGNU Network Object Model Environment09:19
MasterTsunamifancy! :O09:19
Mezlinux in the closet09:19
Packing_Kaiserthat's it :O09:19
Mezlinux on the desk09:19
Mezwindows in the bin :D09:19
Mez:-"09:19
MasterTsunamiwindows has a lot going for it :/09:19
Mezyeah - it does09:19
Mezbut for the fact it;s not free09:19
MasterTsunamisuch as, the complete vertical integration thing :|09:20
Packing_Kaiser350$ a pop ;)09:20
MasterTsunamiwhich businesses love :O09:20
MasterTsunami$350? lol cmon09:20
MezMasterTsunami, yet the monopolies commision doesnt :D09:20
MasterTsunamiyeah, and we saw how well THAT worked out lol ;)09:20
Mezwindows is good- but i like my software free :D09:20
owner989windows xp mce is more laggy than ubuntu for me09:20
Mezlol09:21
owner989ubuntu should develop a media center edition, it wouldnt be hard to do09:21
MezI got told I was cool at work because of the whole fighting for free software thing09:21
Mezowner989, something I've actually thought about :D09:21
MasterTsunamioh you mean sudo apt-get install mythtv ? :D09:21
Packing_Kaiserheh09:21
MezMasterTsunami, something like that09:22
Packing_Kaiserwithout the crap :|09:22
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Mezexcept just a version that auto installs stuff, and runs through setup nicely :D and then you get a myth box :D09:22
Mezlol09:22
owner989there is a linux media center for the xbox09:22
MasterTsunamiwhat, no config files? nothing like that?09:22
Packing_Kaiserno kidding ;|09:22
owner989it appeals to a lot of people09:22
MezMasterTsunami, hopefully09:23
MasterTsunamiare you sure you're talking about linux based media edition? lol.09:23
Mezit'd be cool09:23
MezMasterTsunami, yeah - gui stuff etc etc09:23
Mezsetup once and you're fine :D09:23
Meznice GUI stuff09:23
MasterTsunami:P09:23
Mezbit like knoppmyth - but ubuntu09:23
Mezand better09:23
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Packing_Kaiserwithout needing to setup sql databaes and new users09:24
Mezexaclt09:24
Mezit'd do that for you09:24
Packing_KaiserI'm interested, let me know when it's done ;)09:24
Mezlol09:24
Mezwhen mdz sorts out myth :D09:24
Packing_Kaiserlol09:25
MezI'm half tempted to go to sleep09:25
Mezhalf temted to go cook09:25
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Mezwhich do you guys reckon I should do09:25
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Packing_Kaiseri would cook09:26
Packing_Kaiserthen you will need to sleep :D09:26
owner989yes cook09:26
owner989lol09:26
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Mezhmm ok :d09:26
Meztalk later09:26
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Packing_Kaiserlater mate09:26
Packing_Kaiser*puts MicroSoft optical mouse on list of things to take on holiday*09:27
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HeartBT!azureus09:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo09:37
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HeartBTalright, now there must be a way to install it without all the gnome junk!09:38
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treakathhey all09:56
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Packing_Kaiserhi09:56
treakathhow are you09:57
HeartBTHey kaiser.  howzit?09:59
Packing_Kaisernot bad.09:59
Packing_Kaisergoing to get somthjing to eat soon09:59
treakathk09:59
treakathhi chal10:00
HeartBThow to get azureus without all the extra gnome kaka is my current task, any thoughts?10:00
Packing_KaiserHeartBT: how go yoU?10:00
Packing_Kaiserdownload the jar from the website work?10:01
HeartBTgo well, nice quiet xmas, no kids screaming, nobody.  do they all have to come back?10:01
Packing_Kaiserlol. fraid so ;)10:01
HeartBTI was hoping for a nice bundled package for kde.10:01
Packing_KaiserI'm feeling a bit down, but oh well10:02
treakathhi zugot10:02
HeartBTdon't be down, next week is a whole new year.10:02
treakathwhts wrong10:03
Packing_Kaisermmm. and i wont be here to share it with you lot ;/10:03
HeartBTyou get to travel!10:03
Packing_Kaiseryes!10:03
sampantravel > us lot10:03
treakathr u ok10:03
Packing_KaiserI'll feel better again later, just the last hour or sos been getting to me :|. nm. will all be good10:03
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HeartBTguess I gott go find a jar of azureus.10:04
treakathcheer up babe10:04
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treakathhey bambam10:12
treakathtalt10:12
treakathbambam10:13
treakathk10:13
HeartBTwidgets??  I have to install all that other garbage for widgets?10:13
treakathinstall what10:14
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HeartBTlibswt-gtk-3.1-java  is required to azureus, but that depends on the gnome keyring and a list of others.  seems a high footprint for widgets.10:16
flosofthey10:16
HeartBThay?10:16
flosoftI got a problem ... I can't remove PHPMyAdmin10:16
flosoftis there a way to force this?10:16
owner989heart why not just install from www.azureus.com10:16
HeartBTgoing to owner989 just thought I would do a little homework first to see if it's really the better option.  then a rant hit me and well here we are.10:17
owner989wrong link sorry10:17
owner989http://azureus.sourceforge.net/10:17
owner989i think it is the better option if you dont want the ubuntu version10:17
HeartBTyeah, I completely agree with you.10:18
HeartBTjust got my undies in a curl there for a sec, seeing the MB's filling up for notta.10:19
owner989the ubuntu azureus is old anyway10:19
owner989but it does auto update10:19
flosoft/var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found10:20
owner989so will the jar from the azureus website10:20
flosoftdpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von phpmyadmin (--remove):10:20
flosoft Unterprozess pre-removal script gab den Fehlerwert 127 zurck10:20
flosoftFehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:10:20
flosoft phpmyadmin10:20
flosoftE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:20
flosoftroot@Ubuntu:/home/admin #10:20
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owner989flosoft what about --force10:20
owner989or something10:21
flosoftsame#10:21
flosoftthat is line 12 in the file it says10:21
flosoft    db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver10:21
flosoftbecause my phpmyadmin is broken10:21
flosoftI can't login .... so I wanted to reinstall it10:22
owner989how did you install ti10:22
flosoftSynaptic10:22
owner989doesnt synaptic uninstall it10:22
flosoftbut an older version ... it has been upgraded several times10:22
flosoftnope10:22
flosoftsame error10:22
HeartBTuninstall clean remove config files?10:22
owner989good idea heart10:23
flosoftsame error10:23
flosoftthat is that what I tried to do10:23
owner989what about reinstalling then removing10:23
flosofthow?10:23
owner989in synaptic10:23
flosoftI may just try that10:23
flosoftgive me a sec10:23
flosoftsame error10:26
flosoftand it is still broken10:26
HeartBTit gave that error on install?10:27
flosoftuninstall10:27
flosoftinstall worked10:27
HeartBTno errors? and then uninstall clean and same error?10:27
HeartBTwacky.10:28
flosoftyes10:28
flosoftit is really annoying10:28
HeartBTdoes synaptic make a log of changes?10:28
flosoftwhat is that phpmyadmin.prerm10:28
flosofthow do you mean?10:28
flosoftI see  the error message10:28
flosoft/var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found10:29
flosoftdpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von phpmyadmin (--remove):10:29
flosoft Unterprozess pre-removal script gab den Fehlerwert 127 zurck10:29
HeartBTwell I was just thinking that if it logged what it did, you could confirm it did what it said it did.10:29
HeartBTnever mind.10:29
HeartBTdb_get command not found.  ???10:30
flosoftyes10:30
flosoftit is written in on line 1210:30
flosoftfrom line 1010:31
flosoft# Package maintainer's commands follow:10:31
flosoftif [ "$1" = "remove" ]  || [ "$1" = "purge" ] ; then10:31
flosoft    db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver10:31
flosoft    webservers="$RET"10:31
flosoft    restart=""10:31
HeartBTis that supposed to be a space after phpmyadmin/   ?10:32
flosoftdon't know10:33
flosoftlets try without ;)10:33
HeartBTif it's a command string, I don't think so.10:33
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flosoftthe error is with db_get10:34
HeartBTI'm no programmer, but I beleive that that is an imbedded command.10:34
owner989did you try sudo apt-get update10:34
flosoftyep10:34
flosoftno updates10:35
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owner989one thing i noticed is that in gnome, the internet keys on the keyboard worked but not in kde10:40
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owner989there is a way to setup but looks like too much trouble considering i rarely use them10:40
HeartBTflosoft, phpmyadmin right?10:42
HeartBTwhat version10:42
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flosoft4:2.6.4-pl1-1ubuntu1.110:43
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cmptrmanCould someone help me out.  I have a file that I cant delete as root, I have even tried using a live cd to delete it.10:44
HeartBTdo you read spanish?10:44
HeartBThttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/481110:44
flosoftyes that is my error10:45
flosofthow do I fix it?10:45
HeartBTreading, the bug is known and fixed, I just have'nt found how yet.10:45
HeartBTheadache approaching and no resolution in sight.10:48
HeartBThey but take heart! they fixed it in dapper!10:48
HeartBTFixed in dapper, breezy workaround is not really correct10:50
HeartBTok, so what is the workaround?10:51
HeartBTThe workaround is to update to PHP 5.13 or newer whatever that means10:53
owner989or just edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm10:53
owner989and # line 1210:53
owner989i would try that10:53
HeartBThey! that does sound easier!10:54
HeartBTok, I'm taking a break,  My head is splitting, and I'm not even caring about my azureus fix anymore.10:54
HeartBTbbiab10:55
osh_I found a very annoying dvd. I can play my other films but not this "Batman begins". Is there something I can do or have they managed to lock down dvd's again?10:56
osh_libdvdread: Could not open /dev/scd0 with libdvdcss.10:57
flosoftok ... so what do I have to replace in line 12?10:58
owner989comment it out with #10:58
flosoftok10:58
flosoftIT WORKS!!!!10:59
flosoftTHX @ ALL of u!10:59
owner989no prob lol11:00
flosoftbut still it doesn't work :S11:00
flosoftcan't login11:00
owner989login to what11:01
flosoftPHPMyAdmin11:01
owner989didnt you uninstall it11:01
flosoftI did11:01
flosoftto reinstall and see if it would be fixed11:01
owner989i would install that version11:01
owner989and download the newest one from the phpadmin website11:02
flosoft???11:02
owner989uninstall i mean11:02
flosoftand get a newer one?11:02
owner989yes11:02
flosoftwhere from?11:02
owner989http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php11:03
owner989im not sure where you can get an updated deb file11:03
owner989though11:03
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flosoftdamn11:05
flosoftcan I use the .deb file from dapper?11:06
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osh_flosoft: try it.11:09
osh_flosoft: what could possibly go wrong... ;-)11:09
Hobbseehehe11:10
Hobbseewith a comment like that, anything!11:10
osh_flosoft: most likely it'll fail on some dependencies.11:10
flosoftdamn11:10
Hobbseewhat's this for?11:10
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EauTisseMerry Christmas all ... how can I check available disk space in KDE ? Am I supposed to use some plugin to Kicker I read about on the web ?11:38
EauTisse(does Kicker still exist ?)11:39
HobbseeEauTisse: kicker still exists.  df -h -T in a terminal works well11:39
Hobbseethink there are a couple of other packages somewhere that let you view your remaining space graphically11:39
EauTisseHobbsee: I'll use the cmd line myself, the visual aid is for my father11:39
Packing_Kaiserkdisc or similar?11:40
Packing_Kaiserbtw. hi Hobbsee, wb :)11:41
Hobbseehi Packing_Kaiser :)11:41
Packing_Kaiser:)11:41
Packing_Kaiserbbl11:41
HobbseeEauTisse: kdf11:42
EauTissehm, not imediately available, I'll check in the package manager11:42
EauTisseHobbsee: cheers11:42
Hobbseeyeah, it's in universe11:42
chalhi11:43
EauTisseoh btw, I was able to get java installed and available to Firefox but Konqueror won't pick it up as a plugin11:43
EauTissehas someone managed to make that work ?11:43
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EauTisseI read the usual howto ... but it didn't seem to work although I put the plugin .so into one of the dirs that are scanned by Konq11:44
HobbseeEauTisse: and did it work after that?11:45
EauTisseno, that's the point :-)11:45
EauTissebah, never mind for now11:45
EauTissemore pressing problems ...11:46
Hobbseeah, right11:46
osh_EauTisse: Use something from superkaramba. Lots of packages there have diskspace monitoring.11:46
EauTisselike printers : I defined a printer, selected the make and model from a list I was offered (Canon BJC 210) ... and all I get is a few lines of garbage on the paper11:46
chaldoes anybody know how i can rotate the screen?11:47
osh_EauTisse: the printer. probably the wrong driver. I had the same problem. Choose another printer-driver (or printer model).11:47
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osh_Chai: Grab monitor with both hands. Lift the left hand more than you lift the right and then put the monitor back down again.11:48
EauTisseosh_: ok, I'll try something11:48
Hobbseehehehe11:49
osh_s/chai/chal/11:49
Hobbseei would have said "grab monitor, throw out window, watch it spiral down before it hits the ground"11:50
EauTisse*CRUNCH*11:51
Hobbseemore like smash, but yes11:51
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bobbydhi12:06
Hobbseehi12:07
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XamDMneed help no sound in dapper, but alsa found the card....12:09
bobbydXamDM, unmuted?12:09
XamDMbobbyd: no12:12
XamDMbobbyd: it is not muted12:12
osh_XamDM: play with the settings in kmix. It usually helps. Did for me...12:12
XamDMbobbyd: in breezy and hoary it worked fine12:13
XamDMosh_: i tried12:13
bobbydXamDM, use breezy? :)12:13
bobbyddapper had new hardware detection...12:13
Hobbseetry muting headphone jack sense and line jack sense?12:13
XamDMill try ...12:13
XamDMthere is no mute option available for headphone (sblive 1024player)12:14
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Hobbseeheadphone jack sense, not headphones...12:15
Hobbseeit shoudl be there..12:16
Hobbseeunder switches12:16
XamDMHobbsee: Headphone LFE and Headphone Center12:16
Hobbseehmmm12:17
EauTisseHobbsee: kdf was what I needed, thanks !12:17
HobbseeEauTisse: yay!  glad to help12:18
EauTisseheh ... does it integrate into Konqueror or do I always have to run it separately ?12:18
EauTisseweird really that the functionality isn't in the default configuration of KDE12:20
EauTissethe desktop environment goes to all sorts of extremes of coolness and friendliness but you have to go and fire up the package manager to dig up some widget to check your available disk space12:21
Hobbseeit was in 3.4.3, in kinfocenter, but not in 3.512:21
EauTisseah, go figure12:21
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Hobbseegot no idea why12:21
EauTisseyeah, weird12:21
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EauTissewaaahahaha, looking at the printer drivers, there's a "Canon BJC 210" and a "Canon BJC-210" !!!!12:23
EauTisseLOL12:23
EauTissecool12:23
Hobbseehehe12:23
Hobbseetry both12:23
Hobbseeone at a time12:23
EauTisseI am !12:23
EauTisseheheh12:23
Hobbseebut hey!  at least it finds your printer at all!12:23
Hobbsee:P12:23
raphinkother differences between the two ?12:23
EauTisseoh yes, I' was very happy about that12:23
EauTissedon't know yet12:23
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EauTissebooohoooo ....12:26
EauTissefonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in12:26
EauTisseeh12:27
EauTisse"can't load the driver"12:27
EauTissebugger12:27
osh_Hah. Mplayer to the rescue. Apparently I can read the dvd. It's just okle, kaffeine and vlc that can't do it.12:27
EauTissefuck me !12:27
EauTisseit works !12:27
EauTissehaha, CR+LF is fucked up !12:27
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osh_EauTisse: Are you moderatly attractive, rich and female I'd might have a go. Otherwise no.12:28
osh_EauTisse: ;-)12:28
EauTisseI'm a hot cheerleader12:28
EauTisse1712:28
EauTissemassive tits12:28
Packing_KaiserEauTisse: please don't swar12:29
Packing_Kaiser*swear12:29
EauTissepulpous lips12:29
osh_EauTisse: Oh, did I mention that I'm Brad Pitt?12:29
EauTissea "tit" is a bird12:29
EauTisseosh_: *oooh* Brad !12:29
Packing_Kaiser(21:57:31) EauTisse: fuck me !12:29
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Packing_Kaiser(21:57:49) EauTisse: haha, CR+LF is fucked up !12:29
EauTisseoh !12:29
EauTisseah !12:29
EauTisseok12:29
Packing_Kaiserpls don't :|12:29
EauTisseshall be more careful12:29
Packing_Kaiserthanks.12:30
Packing_Kaisergo back to partying ;)12:30
EauTisseplease forgive me, I'm a 17 year old cheerleader12:30
EauTissenah, full of food12:30
EauTissegot a printer to get workinf (damn it)12:30
EauTissebtw, driver is a success12:30
rfaPsychOhi pl can anybody help me with a little sound problem ?12:30
EauTissenow I have to find out where I set the CR+LF12:30
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tencohi all12:31
rfaPsychOhi12:31
Packing_Kaiserhi12:31
tencois it possible to compile kde apps on breezy when so has installed kde 3.5.0 packages?12:32
rfaPsychOyes why ??12:32
tencowhen i want to install the kdelibs4-dev package, i get 80 broken packages12:32
rfaPsychOwhy not ?12:32
rfaPsychOok how did you install kde 3.512:32
rfaPsychOwith construct ?12:32
tencono12:32
rfaPsychOhow did you install ?12:33
tencodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main12:33
rfaPsychOcompile it by yourself ?12:33
rfaPsychOok12:33
tencowas the repository12:33
rfaPsychOummm12:33
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rfaPsychOthis are not the stabel packages12:34
rfaPsychOthis are developement packages12:34
rfaPsychOwhy did you install ?12:34
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raphinkthis is the stable version of KDE12:34
rfaPsychOyes of kde but not for kubuntu12:34
raphinkhuh?12:35
tencoperhaps this is an aptitude problem12:35
tenco?12:35
raphinkwhat do you expect on kubuntu.org rfaPsychO ?12:35
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rfaPsychOkubuntu at the moment has kde 3.4.312:35
raphinkthey are not official packages for kubuntu, as in main or universe packages12:35
_andreac' un italiano qui?12:35
raphinkrfaPsychO: kubuntu _breezy_ currently has 3.4.312:35
Hobbsee!it12:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:35
rfaPsychOyep thats what im trying to tell him12:35
raphinkbut kubuntu _dapper_ has 3.5.0 ;)12:35
tencono12:36
_andreaok12:36
raphink_andrea: parli l'inglese qui per favore12:36
tencoi have breezy with kde 3.5.012:36
raphinktenco: so do I12:36
raphinktenco: but rfaPsychO is right in the fact taht 3.5.0 is not default on breezy, and no official anyway12:36
raphinks/no/not/12:36
EauTisseI don't believe this, the "print test" that is offered in the printer config applet writes something like 10 pages of stuff12:36
_andreathere isn't anyone in #kubuntu-it12:36
tencohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php12:36
EauTisseshouldn't a print test be like one A4 pages ?12:37
raphink_andrea: if it's not a kubuntu-specific question, go to #ubuntu-it12:37
tencoso why do they announce it on kubuntu.org? its official12:37
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raphinkEauTisse: the default print test is one A4 page12:37
EauTisseoops, I've just realised, it's PostScript !12:37
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EauTisseraphink: : wrong driver still, eh ?12:38
raphinkEauTisse: ;)12:38
raphinkdepends if your printer is postscript or not EauTisse12:38
tencook, iam installing with adept now. seems like this was an aptitude problem12:38
EauTisseraphink: I wouldn't have thought so, old Canon12:38
EauTisseinkjet thingy12:38
raphinkyep no chance12:38
EauTissethe "Driver selection" recommends that I take foomatic+gimp-printer12:39
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EauTisseI'll try foomatic+bjc20012:39
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EauTissewooh !12:40
EauTisseYEAHH !!12:40
rednaxeleau = water12:41
EauTissethis is excellent, thanks KDE/Linus/RMS/ESR/Mummy12:41
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tencohmm, ok. adept got it now12:42
osh_Bah. gam_server needs some love I think. It was taking 60% of the memory of my 1GB box. Going from 800mb used mem to 150mb just by doing a kill -15 on it.12:44
Packing_Kaisergam server does for several reasons12:44
rfaPsychOcan anybody tell me if kde3.5.0 is running stable on breezy ?12:45
Hobbseeseems to be12:45
raphinkrfaPsychO: not officially, but it is stable12:45
osh_Packing_Kaiser: it's sgi's fam in a gnome version isn't it?12:45
rfaPsychOok12:45
rfaPsychOi will make the upgrade12:45
rfaPsychOi wanna try this new little kde baby on my breezy12:46
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rfaPsychO;)12:46
Packing_Kaiserosh_: not sure, but it's not working right ;)12:46
raphinkrfaPsychO: don't worry, it'll work fine12:46
rfaPsychOnot working right ??12:46
rfaPsychOomg12:46
Hobbseeraphink: what's this?12:46
rfaPsychOi will upgrade it will work because i install it12:46
raphinkHobbsee: one of my packages doesn't build anymore since a lib was removed from a package on 21st dec12:46
osh_Packing_Kaiser: That's noted. After killing it my HDD-light isn't doing a fair imitation of a stroboscope anymore.12:47
Hobbseeah, great, which lib?12:47
raphinkthing is that I can't even find where this lib is called in the source Hobbsee :s12:47
raphinkHobbsee: libXft.la12:47
rfaPsychOcan i stay in kde to make this apt-update ?12:47
osh_rfaPsychO: sure. I did.12:47
raphinkHobbsee: latest changelog says :12:47
rfaPsychOok thx12:48
Packing_Kaiserosh_: it's also causing issues with ubuntu dappers 'applications' menu, and not letting go of files12:48
raphink  * Stop shipping libXft.la.12:48
raphink -- Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@ubuntu.com>  Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:13:31 +110012:48
rfaPsychOcome beack later to tell you if it worked12:48
rfaPsychOcya12:48
raphinkI can't get why this lib has been stopped shipping though12:48
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Hobbseewill it build without the lib, if you modify it?12:48
raphinkHobbsee: I don't know where this lib is called, so I can't modify it12:48
raphinktrying to find it12:48
Hobbseesearch?12:49
raphinkbut I can't seem to find where it is12:49
raphinkI did12:49
Hobbseei guess serach where is the question...12:49
osh_Packing_Kaiser: Yeah, I noticed that there are a few enties in bugzilla about it. I don't think I'll bother adding another one then.12:49
raphinkgrep libXft ./* in my source12:49
Hobbseemmm12:49
raphinkgrepped all the files12:49
raphinkI don't think .la files are includes though12:50
raphinkI don't know how they are called12:50
Hobbseeemail the guy in question, as to why it was taken out?12:50
raphinkit seems it's libtool that crashes at build12:50
Hobbseeah ok12:50
Packing_KaiserHobbsee: Daniel stone took it out12:50
raphinkI did send him a message on IRC. waiting for an answer12:50
Packing_Kaiserhe's ubuntu's main X developer12:50
raphinkPacking_Kaiser: yes we know that, but why? and what is there to replace it?12:50
HobbseePacking_Kaiser: i didnt know that, but ok12:50
Packing_Kaiserraphink: i don't know. I'm not an x dev12:51
raphinkPacking_Kaiser: ok then. I asked Daniel about it, hopefully he will answer me12:51
Packing_Kaiserok12:51
Packing_Kaiser*checks dapper changes list for references to the file*12:52
Packing_Kaiserraphink: are you on dapper-changes list?12:52
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raphinkhmm12:53
osh_Suspend to disk doesn't work well on newer dell laptops. I've got a D810 here and it doesn't work. It seems to save the mem-info but it reboots during restore and comes back up clean. Is that a bugzilla entry perhaps?12:53
raphinknot sure12:53
raphinkI don't think so12:53
raphinkthere are too many lists12:53
raphinklol12:53
Packing_Kaiserraphink: where did you find that file got removed?12:53
raphinkin the changelog of libxft source package12:53
Packing_Kaiserraphink: join flood, i will paste more of that email12:53
Hobbseehehe - there are far too many lists12:54
Packing_Kaiserwell I'm on a dozen or so, so it's not all hard12:54
raphinkHobbsee: yes12:54
Packing_Kaiserraphink: you joining?12:54
raphinkyep12:54
Packing_Kaiser#flood12:55
raphinkcourse ;)12:55
raphinkI need to join12:55
raphinkoh #flood you meant12:55
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raphinkI thought dapper-changs12:55
Packing_Kaiserlol. no12:56
Packing_Kaiserleave that to idiots like me12:56
raphinkPacking_Kaiser: ?12:56
raphinkwell if ithere's such a list I suppose it's useful ;)12:56
Packing_Kaiserit can be :)12:57
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raphinkPacking_Kaiser: this doesnt' help me fix my issue though12:58
Packing_Kaiserraphink: 2 questions (I'm technicaly not here btw), how old is the file your trying to compile (how recently was it made), and have you tried those dev packages12:58
raphinkhmm12:59
raphinkthe file i'm trying to compile is very new12:59
raphinkand one week ago, it built fine with the dependencies I had put12:59
raphinknow of course I can try to build it in a dchroot with these devs manually01:00
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blackflaghello all01:11
blackflagcan someone tell me where I can get mysqlcc for ubuntu?01:11
blackflagI tried from the source but this ends with errors01:11
blackflagis there a way to install mysqlcc via apt?01:12
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Phazemandoes anybody knows where to find the klamav official .deb for kubuntu ?01:21
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hilbighi, does anyone know how I can change the ALT+SPACE key combo for katapult?01:22
rfaPsychOback again upgrade to kde 3.5.0 worked for me01:22
hilbigOr how I can disable katapult?01:22
rfaPsychOi only had to reboot the system 2 or 3 times and run Adept 2 times01:22
rfaPsychOapt-get update / apt-get upgrade diddnt work for me had to use adept01:23
tvohilbig: while the launcher is shown, press ctrl+C and a menu will pop up01:23
hilbigtvo: ah that did it, thanks01:23
rfaPsychOthe only strange thing in kde3.5.0 are the programms on the title bar are faded out01:24
rfaPsychOreally strange01:25
rfaPsychOok this was a setting01:26
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sky-ciao01:35
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fakedI want send emails in my lan with mailx, do I need for sending emails over lan an extra Packages therefore?01:44
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tygryssI use the kunbutu 6.04 ...01:47
tygryssand I dont know how to enable sound ... I have ac97 sound card on my asus laptop01:48
raphinkwhich is not last verison ;)01:48
raphinks/verison/version/01:48
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ForzaKubuntu say that my usb mp3 player is full when it's almost empty, i have deleted the "invisible" .Trash folder but still no change, anyone who can help me out with this?01:54
tygrysshow can I install kwin-baghira on kunbutu ?01:56
tygryssor gnuplot and open dx01:56
manveruapt-cache search kwin01:57
manveruor better... search for baghira01:57
manveruhttp://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.shtml <- very useful :)01:58
Forzaanyone plz?01:59
manveruForza: btw, you can see the stuff that takes all the space in konqueror01:59
manverujust choose the file-size-view or however it's called in english01:59
manveruwill give you a nice view of what files take how much space02:00
Forzamanveru; due to konqueror it's empty just like what my console says02:00
Forzabut due to its properties it almost full02:01
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manveruits properties?02:01
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Forzaright click -> properties02:01
manveruoh, dunno02:01
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_andreai need to link my phone nokia with bluetooth02:22
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jroux!win32codecs02:26
ubotuI heard win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/02:26
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osh_hm, it appears that gam_server eats memory quite fast. Perhaps it's time for a cron-kill... ;-)02:52
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neoncodeI have KDE 3.5 and when I try to launch amaroK it displays it's splash screen, appears in the system tray, then closes... If I run it from a terminal I get this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47917902:55
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connhi, is anyone here using firefox 1.5 and having trouble with gmail?03:01
Kibouwhat kind of trouble?03:01
connI can log in and open messages, but it gets stuck when I try to send03:03
Kiboujust sent a mail and it worked fine03:06
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conndamn, thanks03:07
connKibou: do you have a router?03:08
Kibounope03:08
connok, thx03:08
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geconHello. First time here.. Need some desperate help about my network (nic) speed.03:30
tobyHow can I alter groups/owners/permissions such that the command '$ sudo eject /media/ipod' does not require me to sudo?03:33
tobyWhat's the question gecon ?03:33
geconToby, I've spent much time trying to figure out. I have a small network at home. On 2 pc's (one running kubuntu) I have Gigabit nics but speed never gets over 9 MB/sec. I've tried many combinations of connections. Crossover CAT5e cable in use for peer2peer nic connection. Can someone maybe help?03:36
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gecon1 nic is rtl8169 (on kubuntu). The other nic is itegrated on nvidia4 motherboard. live cd ubuntu on PC having the nvidia to do my tests.03:37
BleSShi! which file is used to set locales? is /etc/sysconfig/i18n?03:38
geconSpeed while using SMB (kubuntu to win2k) is even worst! Never > 1.5Mb/sec!03:39
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lwizardl!nvidia03:57
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:57
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connhow do you change the network interface's ttl setting in ubuntu?04:01
lwizardlsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings && sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-config enable04:02
lwizardlwhats wrong with that?04:02
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twinoatlhi04:17
twinoatlWhere can I submit bugreports ? can I use reportbug ?04:18
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rohanhi all04:33
rohankde 3.5 doesnt have a kde-devel pkg :P :(04:33
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neoxanhttp://www.ultimatebierbong.de.vu/04:38
neoxan:D04:38
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endo602sorry for this newbish question but is there a way I can dock device apps in the top right corner of the screen (transparently) i used a panel04:44
endo602that did work out too well04:45
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rjm101hello to all, I need some help on a laserjet 1100 and an x-eye cam, can anyone help this newbie04:45
connis anyone here using dapper? When your ethernet interface comes up, do you see warnings from dhcp?04:54
rjm101conn-looks like everyone is alseep04:58
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rjm101hello to all, I need some help on a laserjet 1100 and an x-eye cam, can anyone help this newbie05:03
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rjm101hello to all, I need some help on a laserjet 1100 and an x-eye cam, can anyone help this newbie05:14
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_abihey guys, how can I select an external soundcard as the default one in kubuntu?05:18
_abiwhen I cat /proc/asound/cards, it shows bot of my soundcards05:18
_abibut I dont know how to select it as default05:19
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nekomataIs 9.5GB likely to be enough space for everything except /home for a laptop install does anyone know?05:34
_mattnekomata: a fresh install is likely to be a couple of gigs. if you want to upgrade, add more packages, etc it can quickly rise to aroun 7-9 gigs..05:35
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nekomatathanks05:37
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bipolarcan anyone help me? I can't eject the cdrom drive on my laptop. There is no disk in it, It's not mounted. Pushing the button on the cdrom or running the "eject" command in a term does nothing. everytime I do either one I can hear the cdrom trying to spin up, but there is no disk in it.05:40
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EauTisseguys, the Java howto on www.konqueror.org mentions kjas. Another java howto on the kubuntu webforum doesn't mention kjas. Is kjas necessary or not ?06:08
EauTisseit's ok, I got my answer elsewhere (#kde)06:16
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geconhello... please, I need some help with a slow rtl8169 NIC connection. I've post details etc. here: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2523.006:20
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EauTisseguys, is there a handy pannel to set KDEHOME and KDEDIRS or should I edit them in some boot script ?06:26
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geconhello... please, I need some help with a slow rtl8169 NIC connection. I've post details etc. here: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2523.006:35
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slow-motionhallo06:46
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chinois there a set way i should layout my partitions ?06:47
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fosterFrohe Weihnachten07:24
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knewbHi - anyone know of a repository that has kpilot-devel? I've got no luck googling for it07:35
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naliothknewb: have you searched packages.ubuntu.com in the dapper repos?07:36
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knewbnalioth: nope, let me give that a shot..  thanks07:38
naliothknewb: hang on i misread your question07:39
knewbif a package can't be found there, does it mean it's not available?07:39
naliothknewb: is there a kpilot homepage?07:39
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knewbyes.. I've switched to kubuntu after using suse for a while, and the suse distro had that package07:41
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naliothknewb: then i'd suggest you find a source package (either build your own from the tarball from the homepage, or grab a source package from suse)07:43
kkathmankpilot is in the repos :)07:44
kkathman!info kpilot07:44
kkathmankpilot - KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool07:44
naliothkkathman: he wants -dev07:45
kkathmanlibpisock8 - Library for communicating with a PalmOS PDA07:45
kkathman07:45
kkathmanyou can look also at this:  apt-cache search prc-tools07:46
knewbnalioth: I'm trying to compile an app called ksafeid that needs the devs07:46
kkathmanknewb: look at the prc-tools....there is one for each kind of processor07:47
kkathmanprc-tools - GCC, GDB, binutils, etc. for PDAs using the PalmOS07:48
knewbkkathman: thanks, I'll have a look at that07:48
ubotukpilot: (KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool), section utils, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1661 kB, Installed size: 4044 kB07:48
kkathmanlooks like ubotu is a little slow today07:49
knewblol07:49
naliothoh, btw, good morning kkathman07:49
kkathmangood morning nalioth -- Hope your Christmas was a good one, sir :)07:49
naliothkkathman: it was better than some that i've spent working07:50
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kkathmanwell I was thinking about you having to work...my father used to work every holiday also.. He worked at a newspaper and they dont shut down for holidays :)07:51
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naliothi've spent time in combat zones for xmas, been in far off states (when i drove a truck) so dispatching taxis was a change07:52
kkathmannalioth: and probably a nice change :)07:54
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knewbnalioth: kkathman - much thanks for your pointers..! led me to find out that kubuntu uses ' libkdepim1-dev' instead of kpilot-devel08:13
kkathmangreat..well glad that helped :)08:13
naliothknewb: share the love08:13
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{Satan_Lady}anyone can say me whats this?08:37
naliothok then.08:38
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rubemhi there08:58
rubemwhich package has the gcc, g++, make, etc?08:58
naliothrubem: install "build-essential"08:59
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rubemwhich package has the sintax enhancemnts for vi and vim09:01
vvvhi i have a problem with audio's cd09:01
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vvvon xmms i can't listen the audio but they seem to move09:01
nalioth!sound09:02
ubotusound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary09:02
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jahshuahello can someone please help me with this error09:02
jahshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/621409:02
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jdefjust upgraded from Kubuntu preview to final and storage media empty09:04
naliothjahshua: you'll need to point totem at another mount point09:06
jahshuahow do i do that09:06
naliothjahshua: on that i'm not sure, but the hardcoded places totem looks dont exist in kubuntu09:07
naliothkkathman: you here?09:07
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jahshuacan i change the file association somehow09:07
jahshuai dont even want totem09:07
jahshuabut i have al this gnome stuff now cause i installed the gnome desktop09:08
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jahshuaso things are all a bit confused at the moment09:08
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jdefhas anyone seen storage media being empty09:12
naliothjahshua: you are not limited to 'gnome stuff' you can use what you like09:13
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jahshuaright09:17
jahshuabut i mean09:18
jahshuathe file associations seemed to have changed09:18
naliothjahshua: right click on the item in nautilus/konqueror and properties. choose which app should open it09:19
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Voodoo_Vibehey!09:24
Voodoo_Vibeanyone who knows if there is support for soundblaster audigy 4 in kubuntu??09:25
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melonipoikahi all, is anyone using initnd?09:25
melonipoikai installed it, but i get some errors when starting the computer09:25
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Voodoo_Vibewhen i try apt-get i get error message could not lock listcatalog or something cant translate any good....anything i can do??09:27
jahshuanalioth that just gives me the option to play it in kaffeine externally etc09:27
jahshuano option to change the player09:28
naliothjahshua: i'm not sure then, how to change the default application (is "always open with" not in the options?)09:28
jahshuano :(09:29
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DelvienAnyone know how to mount an MP3 HDD based MP3 player09:30
jdefanyone knows about storage media issue in breezy09:32
knewbDelvien: it's not being detected when u attach the usb cable?09:32
Delvienknewb not that i know .. how am i supposed to tell?09:33
knewbDelvien: konq should pop up with the contents of the hdd09:35
Delvienknewb its not. is there an automount setting im missing?09:35
knewbDelvien: neg.. if we're talking a usb connection, fstab doesn't need to have anything added... wahtlisted in the /media09:38
knewbaside from dvdrecorder, cdrom09:39
Delvienknewb nothing new, i dont think its mounting09:39
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knewbDelvien: take a look for err msg when u do dmesg | grep usb09:42
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Delvienknewb no errors but i do see this  usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 609:43
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sampanjahshua  changing default apps with konq should be easy: konq --> settings --> configure konq --> file associations ... then search for the extension/file type and change the application (move the one you want up to top on the list)09:45
knewbDelvien: so the sys is seeing the drive, just can't access it09:45
Delvienright09:45
Delvieni just need to mount the thing09:45
sampanprobably won't help for gnome/nautilus, but in kde/konq it works just fine09:46
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knewbDelvien: see if this lists the drive... dmesg |grep sda09:48
Delvienknewb how do i tell which one is the mp3 player09:49
knewbDelvien: Im hoping you get spmething like sda1, or sda209:49
Delvienknewb it doesnt help that i have a ton of partitions on my HD09:50
Delvienknewb http://pastebin.com/47954209:50
jahshuahello i have a HP digital camera that uses usb to unload the images to my pc, on my windows box it was easy enough, i just installed the software on the cd and it worked fine..what do i need to do for linux ?09:51
knewbDelvien: my usb hd connects as /dev/sda209:52
Delvienknewb mine too09:54
Delvienoh09:54
Delvienknewb my sda1 is my windows, my sda2 is my linux , sda3 is my memory swap and my sda 4 is my fat32 drive for windows/linux stuff09:54
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leafwwhy does the kded runs when I insert a CD to the point of clogging all the RAM and almost blocking the computeR?09:56
leafwcan it be stopped ?09:56
leafws/stopped/stop !?09:56
jahshuayes it annoys me too09:56
jahshuadont know how to stop it :(09:56
Delvienknewb lol when i tried syncing it to my windows machine windows crashed09:57
knewbDelvien: try grepping just sd.. maybe it assigned it sdb2 or something...09:57
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Delvienknewb when i grep SB it came up with all the USB messages09:58
knewbDelvien: ergh.. try sdb09:59
Delvienknewb nothing09:59
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knewbthis doesn't like msgs that start with /..  /dev/sda is one drive and perhaps /dev/sdb is the usb09:59
Voodoo_Vibehow can i get Java in konquerer??09:59
Delvienhttp://pastebin.com/479545 knewb10:00
leafwVoodoo_Vibe: i nthe settings, go to plugins, and scan for the java applet stuff10:01
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Voodoo_Vibeleafw: ok thanx will try10:01
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Delvienknewb no such file or directory /dev/sbd10:03
knewbDelvien: do you see sdp2 ?10:03
knewbin /dev ?10:03
Delvienknewb nope10:03
Delvienknewb i dont think its mounting at all10:03
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paguxhow do i upgrade to latest  kde 3.5 ?10:04
leafwpagux: use Adept10:04
paguxapt-get upgrade ?10:04
knewbthat was from the output of grep sb10:04
Delvienknewb any command to see all mounted drives?10:05
paguxleafw: is it standard kubuntu repo or i have add it manually ?10:05
leafwpagux: the www.kubuntu.org says it has been added to the packages10:05
leafwpagux: should be findable in Adept10:06
paguxleafw: wht pakage i should search for kde-desktop ?10:06
knewbto mount all drives in fstab is mount -a10:07
Delvienanyone tell me what this is "ehci_hcd"10:07
paguxked search gives me zillion results10:07
naliothpagux: kubuntu-desktop10:07
leafwpagux: you can always search for 3.510:09
leafwbu kubuntu-desktop may do10:09
knewbDelvien: to see the already mounted drives, try df -BG10:09
Delvienhttp://pastebin.com/479552 knewb found this in my fstab never seen it before...10:10
paguxleafw: its NOT showing kubutu-desktop as upgradable10:11
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treakathhey all10:11
Delvienknewb dont t ell me i have to boot to windows to transfer songs over to  my mp3 player... gr10:12
knewbthat's strange... the iso9660 is a cdrom fs10:12
treakathhey snake10:12
leafwpagux: then go to kubuntu.org and fetch it manually.10:12
paguxthere must some repo for it ....10:12
naliothpagux: you have put the 3.5 repos in your sources.list and upgraded your apt, right?10:13
paguxwhere i can 3.5 repo enteries ?10:13
apacheloggerpagux: you're looking for a repo?10:14
sampanthe topic perhaps might be a good place to look ;)10:14
knewbDelvien: dear god no ; ) boot to win is never a good option10:14
pussfellerwhat kinda mp3 player?10:15
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Delvienpussfeller Philips Gogear Jukebox HD6330 (30 gig version)10:15
naliothpagux: visit kubuntu.org, all info is there10:15
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pussfelleru plug it in and it doesnt get mounted?10:16
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pussfellerhuh it uses sqlite for a db10:19
Delvienpussfeller it doesnt mount :(10:20
pussfellerDelvien: thats odd... nothing hapens at all when you plug it in?10:20
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pussfellerit dont make an icon?10:20
Delvienpussfeller not to my PC no, but on my mp3 player it shows its connected10:21
Delvienpussfeller nope no icon nothing10:21
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pussfellerand tail -f /var/log/kern.log or lsusb give you no info10:22
pussfellertheres a go gear linux project btw10:23
Delvienpussfeller http://pastebin.com/47956710:24
Delvienpussfeller lsusb just gives me my ports10:24
Delvienoh had to have it plugged in lol10:24
Delvienpussfeller Bus 005 Device 012: ID 0471:014b Philips10:25
paguxdo i have add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to upgrade to kde 3.5 ?10:25
Delvienpussfeller looks like it sees it fine, but gotta manually mount it , which i dont know how to do10:25
pussfellerok, so you just need to figure out which /dev/sd it is10:26
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Delvienpussfeller aye i dont see aANY sd in /dev10:26
pussfellermount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mount_point is the syntax10:27
pussfellerhmm10:27
Delvienpussfeller oh sda... yeah all 5 are accounted for, but no extras10:27
pussfellerDelvien: this is with breezy?10:27
Delvienpussfeller there is a sr010:27
Delvienaye10:27
Delvienpussfeller all my sda 1-5 are my partitions of my HD10:28
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Delvienpussfeller but there are only those 5 sdas10:28
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berkesgood evening people.10:28
berkesanyone care to help me with a silly kaffeine issue?10:29
berkeseverytime i fire kaffeine, it starts the wizard10:29
berkeswhere should I look to fix that?10:29
paguxkaffene sucks go for amroK ;-)10:30
berkespagux: that is not what i asked :)10:30
berkespagux: besides, amarok does not (and should not) play video10:30
paguxi it think plays with xine plugin10:31
pussfellerand "mount" accounts for every thing in "lshal | grep volume.mount_point"10:31
berkespagux: *sigh*10:31
berkesdeep sigh.10:31
berkeswhy is it alwyas like that?10:31
jahshuai neeeeeeeeed help :(10:32
berkeswhen you ask something in a linux forum like 'I have this and this issue with KDE, how can i fix it' that people come over and say : use gnome.10:32
jahshuai cant play this video http://ja.metacafe.com/watch/20840/cheerleader_toss_into_the_basket/10:32
paguxtry easykubuntu ....i will install allur plugins10:32
berkesor in an irc chaneel that peopl tell you to use another app with another plugin.10:32
pussfellerberkes: kafeeine is still kinda buggy and thats just a fact10:33
berkesanyway. I /know/ kaffenie is far from perfect. But at least kubuntu supports it.10:33
jahshuai dont know what plugins it needs10:33
berkespussfeller: I am not arguing against that.10:33
berkespussfeller: all asked was "where should I look to turn off that 'wizard'10:33
Delvienpussfeller any suggestions to me?10:33
pussfellerit seemed to work better before10:34
knewbspeaking of kaffeine & bugs... anyone have 0.7.1 for breezy?10:34
jahshuasomeone please10:34
pussfellerDelvien: and "mount" accounts for every thing in "lshal | grep volume.mount_point"10:34
jahshuaplease please please10:34
jahshuawhat plugin do i need . Totem wont play it10:34
berkesI did not ask: "hey i don't like kaffeine, what should I use'.10:34
Delvienpussfeller only came up with cdrom10:34
Delvien!checkinstall10:34
ubotuI heard checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall10:34
berkesi know there is xine/mplayer/kmplayer etc.10:35
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Delvienpussfeller this is a pain10:36
pussfellerif its wanting to do the wizard again, that ussaully means for whatever reason, the config file in ~/.kde either didnt get written due to a crash or something, or doesnt have something like, run_wizard or first_time = yes in it10:36
berkescould it be that kaffeine does not close properly and hence it thinks it has never been ran before?10:36
berkesor is there a hidden flag in some odd config file i must change?10:36
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pussfellerDelvien: it sounds like hal isnt working correctly or something... it should automount it when you plug it in, or ask you what to do10:37
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pussfellerberkes: prob the former10:37
pecaberkes: do you have file ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/wizard_stamp_v0.7.1 (or other version)?10:37
berkespussfeller: okay. funny. I do not even see a config file, other then one in .kde/share/config called kaffeinerc10:37
berkesand I just monitored that file. It does get changed on close of kaffeine.10:38
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berkeshmm peca, no10:38
Delvienpussfeller ok bro thanks for your help...10:38
berkesi think tahts it then. lemme check10:38
Delviendamn you linux !10:38
pussfellersorry I couldnt help more10:38
Delviennp10:38
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pussfelleryou might try posting to the forum or mailing list, you can get some more indepth help there, it might be a bug10:38
knewbpeca: you got 0.7.1 deb or compiled?10:39
pecadeb10:39
Delvienpussfeller other people are asking about the same thing in the mailing list and no one answers.. Because its not an ipod no one cares10:39
pussfellerhmm, then others are geting the same prob so its a bug10:39
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pussfellermight try asking on the gogear linux project....10:40
Delvienwheres that10:40
berkespeca: should that file contain something, because I did a touch (tried 0.7.1 and 0.7) but it did not help10:40
pussfellerhttp://opengogear.sarovar.org/10:40
berkespeca: acc to kaffeine -v I have 0.710:41
pussfellerso berkes you start it, go thru the wizard, close it properly, and it still wants to run the wizard again10:41
berkespussfeller: yes.10:41
berkesevery time ;)10:41
pecaberkes: no, its zero size10:41
_mikehi i need to mount an mp3 player on this machine, it uses usb, how can i do that10:41
pussfellerwell that would get annoying10:41
berkesthough not sure if it closes all pretty.10:41
berkeskaffeine: KaffeinePart: destructor is what it prints to the commandline10:41
berkesI am not sure if that indicates that there is a problem?10:42
berkespussfeller: and yes, its pretty annoying :)10:42
_mikehi i need to mount an mp3 player on this machine, it uses usb, how can i do that10:42
jahshuaplug it in10:43
pussfeller_mike: in a just world, you would plug it in and then click on open in the question box that pops up10:43
pecaberkes: maybe you should chect permissions of the directory10:43
knewbhehe10:44
DarksunQuick question! Is there a way to stop KDE using ctrl-F* as a hotkey for switching between desktops, I want to use ctrl-f4 to close tabs10:44
berkespeca: no problems there.10:44
_mikeHEH wow i can't believe it mounted just by plugging it in10:44
_mikesorry for my infidelity10:44
_mikehaha10:45
berkespeca: i could touch the "wizard_stamp_v0.7.1 file wo problems10:45
pussfellerkaffeine --verbose10:45
berkes_mike: trust the KDE Force :)10:45
pussfellerfrom a terminal10:45
berkespussfeller: will do.10:45
jahshuawhat plugin do i need to stream .wmv file in kde with firefox  ?10:46
pussfellerbut _mike on the other hand, many mp3 players use databases to read the id tags or file names to play10:46
pussfeller!restricted_formats10:46
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, pussfeller10:46
pussfelleri think you do know....10:46
pussfeller!restricted10:46
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:46
jahshuawhat plugin do i need to stream .wmv file in kde with firefox  ?10:47
berkeswhat the ** ? kaffeine wants to 'cp kaffeine.desktop /home/ber/Desktop/kaffeine.desktop' o_0, peca :)10:47
pussfellerjahshua: that link from ubotu10:48
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berkespeca: any idea if it wants the "/usr/share/applications/kde/kaffeine.desktop" or the "/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kaffeine.desktop" one?10:48
pecaberkes: dont know10:49
berkeshmm. copying them all by hand did not help either :/10:50
`Nomadmy apt-get command has become kinda clogged up.. I forget the command to get things working again, was it dpkg -a "somethign"?10:50
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pussfeller!FreeFormats10:51
ubotumethinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats10:51
apokryphos`Nomad: clogged up? You're gonna have to be a little more descriptive10:51
apokryphosyou might mean sudo dpkg --configure -a, though10:51
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`NomadI ran an update an dit never managed to get all the updates from the repositories.. Now it says I shoudl run updates to fix it.  If I run upgrade, I see a ton of packages but they won,t be installed until update has been run..10:52
`NomadI did an sudo apt-get clean10:52
apokryphosthat wouldn't really help10:53
apokryphos`Nomad: what error specifically? Can you pastebin?10:53
`NomadCouldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com breezy-extras/multiverse Packages10:53
`NomadSeems to be unable to reach a few reps10:53
apokryphosdisable that repository from apt, or directly from sources.list10:54
apokryphosthen sudo apt-get update10:54
`Nomad103 packages are being held back.. I upgraded to KDE 3.5 yesterday, so I guess now it wants to give me all the latest updates to my apps10:54
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`Nomadok, will go now and try it wothout this one10:54
`Nomadok, disabled it.. It was for extra packages only.. But 103 packages are still held back.. What does that mean?  They're not quite cooked yet?  :)10:56
`NomadI just ran update and upgrade.10:56
`NomadI'll try from the GUI adept10:57
apokryphosit means you should do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, instead of upgrade10:57
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`Nomadoh?10:57
audihi boys10:57
`NomadKDE 3.5 means a dist-upgrade then?10:57
apokryphosdist-upgrade for 3.5, yes10:57
`Nomadapok: working.. thanks!10:58
audiIs there a program like Emule for kubuntu?10:58
berkeshmm. digging deeper in that kaffeine issue: I reinstalled it (wit remove --purge) but that did not help10:58
apokryphosaudi: popular conventional p2p clients: frostwire/limewire, gtk-gnutella10:58
`Nomadberkes: I could never get kaffeine to work well for me.  I end up using VLC and Totem10:58
berkesI, however, do get a message when firing up. A message in that wizard, I mean:10:58
audifrostwire works with emule server?10:58
berkesNo DVB-Devices found. The DVB related functions will be hidden10:58
pussfelleraudi: amule, mldonkey for emule networks10:58
berkes`Nomad: that scks. I really want the kpart and stuff.10:59
apokryphosaudi: no.... those are all on the gnutella network10:59
audiamule haven't .deb package10:59
apokryphosberkes: what's the issue?10:59
audii tried compiling it but it returned errors10:59
apokryphosaudi: it's in the repos10:59
audirepos?10:59
apokryphosrepositories10:59
berkesapokryphos: when I rund kaffeine, it runs the wizard, every time.10:59
apokryphos!info amule10:59
berkes ~run10:59
audii searched 'amule' but it didnt find anything10:59
audiwhy?10:59
apokryphosberkes: heh, I heard someone with that issue some time ago. I think there might be a bug report on it -- worth checking out.11:00
berkeshmmm. that could also be. geez. that i didnt even think of hunting for a bug. silly me.11:00
`NomadCOuld it have been run as root initially maybe and some permission is stuck On somewhere?11:00
apokryphosaudi: you don't have the Universe repository enabled11:00
manveruoh, ubuntu is ill?11:00
manveruubotu... i mean11:00
manveru:)11:00
audiwhat's this apokryphos, how can i enable it11:01
apokryphosmanveru: updating11:01
apokryphos!tell audi about repositories11:01
manveruubotu: you there?11:01
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, manveru11:01
manveruah, wonderful :)11:01
`Nomad!tell `Nomad about repositories11:01
apokryphosmanveru: only repo info needs updating.11:01
manveruprobably11:01
pussfelleramule used to be buggy, but it more gui-centric, mldonkey is fairly solid, but kinda hard to configure11:02
audiapokryphos but i haven't synaptic11:02
audii have another program11:02
audipackage and something11:02
audiadapt11:02
apokryphosaudi: so follow the instructions for having Kubuntu :)11:02
apokryphos(they're at the bottom)11:02
pussfellerbus on the other hand, mldonkey runs as a deamon and only needs a webrowser to connect and control it11:02
audican't see them11:02
manveruamule is in universe btw11:02
ubotuamule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB11:03
slow-motionbbl11:03
apokryphosaudi: ahh, the factoid was changed11:03
audii searched for AMULE but can't find it11:03
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apokryphosaudi: wiki.kubuntu.org/Repositories11:03
manveru!sources11:03
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:03
manveru!repositories11:04
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource11:04
manveruwonderful :)11:04
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manverusomebody updated him11:04
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apokryphosno really11:04
manveruand he's faster than ever... ^^11:04
apokryphos*not really11:04
audiapokryphos i added the swtizerland server with apt-setup11:04
audiisn't this the same?11:05
apokryphosmanveru: the refreshing repo information is a cron job. Factoids don't need reloading etc11:05
apokryphosaudi: ok11:05
apokryphossure11:05
audibut i still can't find it11:05
audiwhy?11:05
apokryphoserr, no....11:05
apokryphosaudi: you didn't follow the instructions. Do the part it says about enabling/adding universe/multiverse11:05
manveruapokryphos: i don't mean the info... i can apt-cache policy for that too11:05
apokryphosyes........11:05
pussfellerand then apt-get update11:05
manveruapokryphos: but the factoids changed :)11:05
audiapokryphos here? wiki.kubuntu.org/Repositories11:05
apokryphosyes11:06
apokryphosaudi: argh! Wrong entry. Sorry again... one sec.11:06
audii cant find it11:06
apokryphoshttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:06
apokryphosok, there11:06
audioh11:06
audiok11:06
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audioh.11:09
audiapokryphos: Does i need doing the same on my debian?11:09
apokryphosberkes: was there a bug report on it?11:09
audior on Debian it's not needed?11:09
apokryphosaudi: not sure how it's setup on debian. They definitely don't use the "Universe/Multiverse" repository name/methodology exactly, though. That's ubuntu-specific.11:10
audiok11:10
ForzaIm trying to stream a movieclip (wmv) trough VLC, i can hear the sound but there's no picture, anyone who can help me out?11:10
berkesapokryphos: yes. a sec. pls :)11:10
apokryphosok cool11:10
apokryphosForza: you have w32codecs installed?11:10
Forzadunno11:11
Forzawher to get them?11:11
audiapokryphos: i have a last question: i'm trying install a program called VLC VideoLan Player, where can i find the .deb package?11:11
apokryphosaudi: it's in the repos, again. =)11:11
audioh good11:11
audithanks11:11
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jahshuai cant find any of the plugins to get this to work11:12
jahshua:((((11:12
jahshuai cant play this video http://ja.metacafe.com/watch/20840/cheerleader_toss_into_the_basket/11:12
apokryphosjahshua: works fine here in konq11:13
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apokryphosthough the video doesn't seem to show any cheerleader toss into the basket11:14
jahshuahmmm11:15
jahshuai was using firefox11:15
jahshuakonq is suuuuper slow11:15
jahshuafor me11:15
berkesapokryphos: yes, that thread in the bug report helped me localise the problem and fix it. I am now waiting for my bugzilla PW then ill give you the url + details :)11:15
apokryphosjahshua: huh? Sounds like something's wrong -- Konq is much faster than ff11:16
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jahshuathat page wont even load for me in konq11:17
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frhi guys whats the kde version of gedit? i always use sudo nano -w11:20
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audikwrite?11:23
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apokryphosfr: kate11:25
apokryphosnever sudo {GUIAPP} with kde, though11:26
apokryphosuse kdesu11:26
spstarr_homehmm, is it safe to update to aptitude 0.4.0 in dapper yet?11:26
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vaporwavehi, can anyone help me with re-installing grub? I reinstalled Windows and srewed up my MBR...11:28
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apokryphos!grub11:29
ubotugrub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:29
ForzaI have installed the w32codecs but how do i get VLC to use them???11:29
apokryphosit will, if it's installed11:29
ForzaWell its not under the codecs in VLC11:30
spstarr_homehas KDE 3.5 been merged into Kubuntu ?11:31
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spstarr_homeif so, aptitude unhold is saying it will remove kubuntu-desktop11:31
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berkesapokryphos: hers the ug, for that wizardy thing: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1710911:33
apokryphosberkes: cool, thanks11:35
apokryphosspstarr_home: in dapper, yes11:35
apokryphoskubuntu-desktop is just a metapack11:35
spstarr_homeok, so i dont need to use kubuntu.org's breezy packages11:35
spstarr_homeright but if it takes out kubuntu-desktop it will remove everything else11:36
apokryphosif you installed by aptitude or something. One of aptitude's drawbacks :P11:36
spstarr_homejust use apt-get to do it?11:36
apokryphosspstarr_home: but wait, what is it that tries to remove kubuntu-desktop?11:36
berkesapokryphos: ill be offline soon, but if you want me to test/verify anything for kaffeine, wrt that issue, feel free to mail me :)11:36
spstarr_homeaptitude i find is a bit weird on that11:36
spstarr_homewell, everything is dependant on kubuntu-desktop meta11:37
spstarr_homethe meta package11:37
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frguys how do I add engines for amaroK? i want it to play mp3's11:37
lamp---what do i need to add a mp11:37
apokryphosspstarr_home: it removes packs it installed just to satisfy depends when you remove the original app11:38
lamp---3 to a audio project in k3b11:38
spstarr_homei guess i'll let it remove kubuntu-desktop and now readd it11:38
spstarr_homeright11:38
spstarr_homeok now im back in sync11:38
spstarr_homehopefully, apt, apt-utils debtags work now11:38
apokryphosspstarr_home: no, that's not how metapacks are meant to work. It's meant to depend on all the required things, and nothing's meant to depend on removing it11:38
apokryphosthat's just aptitude's gift11:39
spstarr_homeotherwise i'll have to revert those apt* packages11:39
spstarr_homeapokryphos, hmm11:39
elgordo12345What do you use for DVD authoring?   I've tried qdvdauthor, runs forever but doesnt create anything, DVDStyler wont compile, varsha gives a pipeline error.11:39
apokryphosspstarr_home: but what is trying to remove kubuntu-desktop?11:39
apokryphosfr: install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad11:39
spstarr_homeoh, dbus11:39
apokryphosfr: personally I'd also install amarok-engines11:39
spstarr_homeThe following packages will be REMOVED:  hal ivman k3b k3blibs kdebase-kio-plugins kdm konq-plugins konqueror kubuntu-desktop <-11:39
frok i will try that11:40
spstarr_homesorush20, i have to now add kubuntu-desktop back and now it reinstalls those all with the new versions11:40
apokryphosspstarr_home: you get that when you try ot install......?11:40
spstarr_homeapt-get install dbus11:41
spstarr_homeaptitude unhold dbus would do the same11:41
apokryphosdapper is currently going through a dbus transition11:41
apokryphoslot of problems there :P11:41
spstarr_homei dont use dbus much in kde :)11:41
spstarr_homebut this should sync me in drappers kde 3.5 as apposed to the breezy 3.5 packages i was using11:42
apokryphospretty sure that the automounting and media:/ kioslave use a combination of HAL and dbus11:42
frthanks apokryphos! it works!11:42
apokryphoscool11:42
spstarr_homea little pain wont matter as long as apt* doesnt break again11:42
franother question, is there a search function for apt-get? i know emerge had one back when i used gentoo a long time ago..11:42
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spstarr_homeapt-cache11:42
apokryphosfr: apt-cache search package =)11:43
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spstarr_homeor aptitude search package if you have it11:43
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spstarr_homeah11:43
spstarr_homelibkdes4c211:43
spstarr_home-> c2a11:44
spstarr_homeok so 3.5 is in dapper now good11:44
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spstarr_homei dont understand the version numbering11:44
spstarr_home4c2 vs 4c2a11:44
framaroK is a nice mediaplayer11:44
apokryphosthe best ;-)11:45
crimsunlibstdc++ allocator transition, shawn.11:45
spstarr_homehmm, that might break apt again (since its c++)11:45
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spstarr_homewhich is what happened last time i updated apt*11:45
crimsunapt* are fine11:46
spstarr_homei believe dapper has the fixed debtags now11:46
spstarr_homeyes :-)))11:46
crimsunyes, that was fixed a while ago11:46
_lampHow can i add mp3 filles to a k3b project11:46
spstarr_home1.5.1 was broken11:46
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apokryphos_lamp: you need k3b-mp311:46
spstarr_homecrimsun: i had badness, aptitude wouldnt let me install packages :)11:47
_lampapokryphos: do i need multiverse sources for that11:47
apokryphosUniverse11:47
apokryphos!info k3b-mp311:47
_lampapokryphos: it can't be installed11:48
_lamp!info k3b-mp311:48
apokryphos_lamp: not very descriptive11:48
apokryphoswhy can't it be installed?11:48
spstarr_homeheh score is -211:49
_lampE: Pakket k3b-mp3 heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat11:49
spstarr_homethe following packages are BROKEN: readline-common11:49
spstarr_homeI must say, i don't understand aptitude's 'score system'11:49
apokryphos_lamp: I really don't know what that means11:49
apokryphosno installation candidate?11:49
_lampapokryphos:  yes11:49
frI am trying to install azureus, I do "sudo apt-get install azureus"  and spits back "package azureus is not available, but is reffered to by another package ... E:Package azureus has no installation candidate"  any reason why its doing this?11:49
apokryphos_lamp: hoary/breezy?11:50
_lampbreezy11:50
spstarr_homeok, good, apt* didnt break11:50
apokryphosfr: azureus isn't in the repos. Just get it from their site11:50
froh, howcome its in the startup guide heh11:50
ubotuk3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB11:50
dutchcrimsun: I told you I found out what the red line was for ?11:50
frdo i need to apt-get java?11:50
apokryphos_lamp: weird. No idea why it says that... it sure does.11:51
berkesabout amarok. I am becoming a bit worried about its usability.11:51
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apokryphosfr: which startup guide/11:51
crimsundutch: yes, the marker bit. I read it in my message log. Thanks.11:51
berkesthey keep adding and adding features. Its becoming to feel a bit like a fankenstein by now :-)11:51
ubotuk3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB11:51
dutchok,  just checking..11:51
apokryphosberkes: check out amarok.kde.org -- something they're trying to really address for 1.4, apparently11:51
spstarr_homecrimsun: am I mistaken but 'hotplug' is gone from dapper?11:51
apokryphos_lamp: could you pastebin your sources.list?11:51
spstarr_homeinitramfs-tools wants to remove it which i dont feel comfortable allowing yet unless dapper has that bit sorted out?11:52
berkesapokryphos: yea. Ive been following it closely. Pity I have so little time, for i'd love to help with some usability improvements there ;)11:52
frapokryphos, i found it on the forums dont have the link anymore.. my firefox keeps on screwing up the bookmarks11:52
apokryphosfr: be weary of 3rd-party startup guides.11:52
spstarr_homebr11:53
apokryphosfr: you do need java, though. You can get java packs from giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/11:53
spstarr_homebrb....reboot11:53
crimsunspstarr_home: you're not mistaken11:53
frok thanks i'll check it out11:53
_lampapokryphos: i know why i don't have sources in my /etc/sources.lst can i get som?11:53
apokryphos_lamp: should be in /etc/apt11:53
_lampIDD11:54
apokryphosI presume that's a smiley or something? :P11:54
frapokryphos how do i use the.deb file11:55
apokryphosfr: I think Kubuntu has a right-click > Kubuntu Package Menu > Install?11:55
_lampapokryphos: thx i think it works11:57
apokryphoscool11:57
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spstarr_homeyes, hotplug does not appear to be in dapper yet12:01
spstarr_homedon't update initramfs :)12:01

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