[12:02] <artnay> that's a great project (well at least the aim is). I appreciate very much the work you've been doing
[12:02] <artnay> how is the documentation? :o
[12:02] <nomed> artnay, coming soon
[12:02] <nomed> :)
[12:03] <nomed> i'm the only devel .. and it quite an hard work ...
[12:03] <artnay> I bet
[12:03] <nomed> i've already done the bootup process the volume-manager and the installer
[12:04] <nomed> well mainly the installer has been fixed from guadalinex liveinstaller
[12:04] <nomed> bugs .. localization and some other stuff to work with dsslive
[12:05] <nomed> but in these days i would play :P
[12:05] <nomed> so artwork is fine ...
[12:08] <artnay> I liked the screenshot. although it's blue, it's clean and quite modern, too. job well done :)
[12:08] <artnay> hey mhz 
[12:08] <mhz> artnay: hey
[12:08] <artnay> had a brainstorm?
[12:09] <artnay> :)
[12:09] <mhz> not really, I needed to solve my personal issues regarding non free software
[12:09] <artnay> anyways, some updates at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal
[12:09] <artnay> here and there
[12:09] <artnay> mhz: relating what?
[12:10] <artnay> or was/is it too personal? :o
[12:11] <mhz> kind of
[12:13] <artnay> well I'm not using 100 % pure FOSS, hopefully I will not get killed for that
[12:14] <mhz> :)
[12:23] <artnay> Tm_T: anyways, this is what I was talking about earlier: http://fitz.sourceforge.net/
[12:27] <mhz> artnay: i think 1st top priority should be to unite *buntu art teams and encourage them to work together
[12:28] <mhz> 2nd priority, yes... standarize wiki pages by *buntu falvour
[12:28] <artnay> mhz: the problem is that there's no clear teams
[12:28] <mhz> artnay: has this issue been discussed by CC?
[12:28] <artnay> therefore Artteam (the contact page) could divide people into different sections (Ubuntu, Kubuntu *)
[12:28] <artnay> mhz: I don't think so
[12:29] <artnay> and as for Kubuntu, riddell said there's no any particular team at the moment
[12:30] <mhz> then, we gotta make sure flavours leaders show up in the artwork meeting :)
[12:31] <artnay> I don't think there are any leaders *g* it's just a bunch of people here and there in quite disorganized way doing contributions
[12:32] <artnay> umh, where's my grammar checker
[12:33] <mhz> then, we gotta make sure flavours leaders show up in the artwork meeting. Important: if not solved... we can use the ML
[12:33] <mhz> artnay: ridell, kubuntu?  ogra, edubuntu, 
[12:33] <artnay> and what about xubuntu?
[12:34] <mhz> no idea
[12:34] <artnay> they have this logo contest going on
[12:34] <mhz> a11y, Henrik
[12:34] <mhz> indeed
[12:35] <mhz> wiki and www, highvoltage
[12:35] <lukacu> interesting discussion, but i am really tired ... must ... go ... bed ... zzzzzzzzzz :)
[12:35] <lukacu> good night all
[12:35] <mhz> lukacu: sleep well
[12:35] <artnay> g night, lukacu 
[12:37] <artnay> well the meeting announce will be on the main page of the fridge
[12:38] <artnay> but I still prefer mailing people, especially now during christmas time
[12:39] <mhz> artnay: i can email henrik, edubuntu people, and highvoltage
[12:40] <artnay> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst
[12:40] <artnay> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[12:40] <artnay> sorry
[12:40] <mhz> ehehe
[12:40] <artnay> mhz: sure, that would most probably bring some attention
[12:43] <mhz> artnay: okis, but this will happen after dinner :(
[12:46] <artnay> http://www.mockup.org/about
[12:47] <nomed> artnay, i'm collaborating with that guy ... 
[12:47] <nomed> since 3 days :)
[12:48] <nomed> he's helping for qt stuff :)
[12:48] <nomed> really nice project
[12:49] <artnay> oh
[10:10] <lukacu> hi
[10:52] <klepas> hey lukacu 
[10:53] <lukacu> hey klepas
[10:56] <klepas> it seems thursday will be the most likely day for our meeting
[11:02] <lukacu> yes ... i dont expect a dramatic turnover now :)
[11:03] <lukacu> is thursday 2300 utc ok with you?
[11:09] <klepas> it's not too bad
[11:09] <klepas> :)
[11:10] <lukacu> morning i guess?
[11:12] <klepas> er.. ja :)
[11:14] <lukacu> ja == yes ? :)
[11:16] <klepas> yes :)
[11:16] <klepas> sorry :)
[11:18] <lukacu> well we use 'ja' as 'yes' in slovenian language though it has german roots
[11:18] <lukacu> so it was not really difficult ;)
[11:19] <klepas> German is my first language
[11:20] <klepas> lukacu: http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/107 - Merry Christmas :)
[11:23] <lukacu> thanks ... wait a moment ... ill upload my christmas card (it is in slovenian but the context is clear i guess)
[11:25] <lukacu> klepas: http://colos.fri.uni-lj.si/luka/images/content/voscilnica2006.png ;)
[11:26] <lukacu> dont know if you link christmas with snow in australia though... :)
[11:28] <klepas> as a European, i surely do :)
[11:29] <klepas> hehe
[11:29] <klepas> lovely work :)
[11:29] <klepas> the trees look lovely
[11:30] <klepas> "2006"?
[11:30] <lukacu> its for new year too :)
[11:31] <lukacu> i worked on something else for days but then i changed the plan and inkscaped this really fast
[11:32] <klepas> hehe :P
[11:32] <klepas> came out rather well
[11:32] <klepas> :)
[11:32] <klepas> time for a shower
[11:33] <lukacu> klepas: well i guess the next year is 2006?
[11:33] <klepas> be back later
[11:33] <lukacu> ok
[11:33] <klepas> :)
[03:32] <artnay> hey all
[03:35] <lukacu> hello artnay
[03:36] <artnay> hey lukacu 
[03:37] <klepas> ahoy
[03:55] <mhz> artnay: klepas: hi
[03:55] <mhz> hi all
[03:55] <mhz> klepas: iirc you sent an email inviting people to the artwork meeting
[03:56] <mhz> or was it you artnay ?
[03:58] <klepas> mhz: yes i have
[03:58] <klepas> 2 so far
[03:58] <klepas> and the mail server seems to be posting them into the archives
[03:58] <klepas> which ought to mean they've been sent
[03:58] <klepas> but their don't seem to be arriving in people's inboxes :(
[03:59] <mhz> klepas: that mail was sent to art ML and ...?
[03:59] <klepas> never arrives in people's inboxes
[03:59] <klepas> =\
[03:59] <lukacu> klepas: ive received both emails
[04:00] <klepas> i've received neither. and i sent them
[04:00] <lukacu> strange
[04:00] <klepas> mhz: here's the online version: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-December/000543.html
[04:00] <klepas> mhz: also please see, ASAP! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeamVoting
[04:00] <mhz> klepas: yup, i inculded that url content in a wiki page
[04:00] <klepas> :)
[04:00] <klepas> sorry, i am forgetful
[04:01] <klepas> and i'm sleepy
[04:01] <mhz> klepas: so you sent it to kubuntu and art only
[04:01] <klepas> no
[04:01] <klepas> kubuntu-users and ubuntu-artwork
[04:01] <klepas> by the way
[04:01] <klepas> could someone contact Daniel Robitaille <robitaille@ubuntu.com> soon
[04:02] <mhz> good, i am sending it to edubuntu, edubuntu-devel-es, ogra, highvoltage, ubuntu-users and ubuntu-marketing
[04:02] <klepas> and kindly ask him to put up the winning poll option
[04:02] <klepas> thanks :)
[04:02] <klepas> coming back to that
[04:02] <klepas> i will be going to sleep
[04:02] <klepas> someone needs to mail Daniel Robitaille <robitaille@ubuntu.com>
[04:02] <klepas> in about 4 hours if i am right
[04:02] <mhz> klepas: i am
[04:02] <klepas> and just tell him the meeting date
[04:02] <klepas> and time
[04:03] <klepas> as from that poll on the wiki
[04:03] <klepas> in roughly 4 hours
[04:03] <klepas> might be more
[04:03] <mhz> yup, it seems thursday
[04:03] <klepas> yeo
[04:03] <klepas> *yep
[04:03] <artnay> there's not much votes, wonder if there will be more...
[04:03] <mhz> 6 votes is a hell of a democracy!
[04:03] <klepas> lol
[04:03] <lukacu> :)
[04:03] <klepas> yea
[04:04] <mhz> thanks god we have meritocracy ruling over democracy :)
[04:04] <mhz> :)
[04:04] <klepas> mhz: give the other people on the other mailing lists you're sending the mail to a bit of time to respond
[04:04] <klepas> say make it 6 hours
[04:04] <mhz> okis
[04:04] <klepas> i'm at GMT/UTC +10
[04:04] <klepas> and it's 02:04 now
[04:05] <klepas> so  there is still over 6-8 hours left before the deadline we set
[04:05] <klepas> that should give those people some time
[04:05] <mhz> , so I betta move it to 23 UTC
[04:05] <klepas> yep
[04:05] <klepas> that sounds good
[04:05] <klepas> thanks mhz 
[04:05] <mhz> np
[04:05] <mhz> as i said, this are the stuff i can do
[04:06] <artnay> and there's actually 7 votes so far!
[04:06] <mhz> giving opinions on art it's just a matter of liking or disliking, no art arguments :)
[04:06] <mhz> cool!!
[04:06] <klepas> this meeting is going to rock
[04:06] <klepas> :)
[04:07] <mhz> yes!!
[04:07] <lukacu> lol
[04:07] <klepas> finally we will be able to get some organisation into the team
[04:07] <mhz> klepas: I can invite my mom!
[04:07] <klepas> so we can put mouse to canvas
[04:07] <mhz> she'll always support me
[04:07] <mhz> :)
[04:07] <klepas> mhz: i've invited some people from the tango project along as well
[04:07] <mhz> that's good idea
[04:07] <klepas> and it seems some people from Linux Australia might also show
[04:08] <artnay> klepas: what about andy? is he attending?
[04:08] <klepas> someone from the kubuntu list mailed me asking us to create a kubuntu art package for universe
[04:08] <artnay> I contacted bvc but he hasn't replied yet
[04:08] <klepas> artnay: andy told me he's on holiday on Fraser island
[04:08] <artnay> maybe I should send an email to him
[04:09] <klepas> which is off the main continent of Australia
[04:09] <artnay> but at least volvoguy will be there
[04:09] <klepas> i don't think he has a net connection
[04:09] <klepas> artnay: yes, that is important
[04:09] <klepas> we might need to talk about a new art coordinator
[04:09] <klepas> also, if Andy doesn't show
[04:09] <klepas> i can relate everything to him at LCA in 27 days
[04:09] <klepas> :)
[04:10] <artnay> so he'll be releasing his icon set on the same day, right?
[04:10] <klepas> we'll probably spend a few late nights at the university college accommodation hacking away :)
[04:10] <klepas> artnay: it's supposed to be a surprise, but yep :)
[04:10] <klepas> shh!
[04:10] <klepas> :)
[04:11] <klepas> by the way guys
[04:11] <mhz> what's the diff between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoList
[04:11] <mhz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal
[04:11] <klepas> mhz: one is the list which artnay composed
[04:11] <mhz> hehe, yes.
[04:11] <klepas> essentially acting as the agenda for the meeting
[04:11] <klepas> :)
[04:11] <artnay> mhz: Proposal was meant to be the main page, List is just to get those things editable by all
[04:11] <artnay> jhmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[04:12] <mhz> but oh, i see.
[04:12] <artnay> damn you cat!
[04:12] <klepas> ;)
[04:12] <mhz> hihi
[04:12] <klepas> by the way guys
[04:12] <klepas> the big "project" i want to work on after the meeting
[04:12] <klepas> is composing a ubuntu and kubuntu art package for universe
[04:12] <klepas> we've already got the green lights from ogra
[04:13] <klepas> and i am sure no one will have anything against some packaged kubuntu art either :)
[04:13] <artnay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[04:14] <artnay> that one doesn't mention how to get it via apt
[04:14] <artnay> (sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title, it's in Universe)
[04:15] <klepas> alrighty guys
[04:15] <klepas> i'm going to be off
[04:15] <klepas> i need the sleep
[04:15] <artnay> mhz: we could still remove all unnecessary text from /ArtowkrTodoProposal and rename it as /Artwork
[04:15] <artnay> g night
[04:15] <klepas> mhz: remember to send that mail! it's utterly vital!!!
[04:15] <klepas> well mails
[04:15] <klepas> :)
[04:15] <mhz> klepas: night
[04:15] <mhz> dont worry
[04:15] <klepas> :)
[04:16] <mhz> I am on it at this very moment
[04:16] <artnay> mhz: and then we could start the /UbuntuArtwork page from scartch, move things from /ArtworkTodoList there and some other sites that haven't been linked well
[04:16] <klepas> mhz: especially the one to Daniel Robitaille <robitaille@ubuntu.com> in 6-8 hours :)
[04:16] <mhz> artnay: good idea I'll finish my 3 pending emails and that's next
[04:16] <lukacu> night klepas
[04:16] <mhz> artnay: correction! good idea I'll finish my 4 pending emails and that's next
[04:17] <mhz> :)
[04:17] <klepas> enjoy the holidays folks :)
[04:17] <artnay> :)
[04:17] <artnay> you too, klepas 
[04:17] <mhz> no holiday here
[04:17] <klepas> http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/107
[04:17] <klepas> :)
[04:17] <artnay> yep, I have work tomorrow...
[04:17] <artnay> this is just having fun
[04:17] <mhz> indeed
[04:19] <artnay> mhz: first of all, we should have an idea what parts of /ArtworkTodoList could be used in all the projects
[04:24] <artnay>  /ArtworkTodoProposal should have a short summary and all mentioned links should work
[04:25] <artnay> but we still have some time left before the meeting
[04:25] <artnay> that would be a goal for us, get it done before the meeting
[04:25] <artnay> anyways, I'm cooking now
[04:28] <mhz> heheh
[04:28] <mhz> i am about to cook once i send those 3 mails left
[04:28] <mhz> artnay: i do agree with you, though
[04:29] <mhz> after lunch, i can definately work on ideas for 'to do'
[04:36] <mhz> mails to danielle and 'the rest' already sent
[04:47] <artnay> done but now I have to eat and then leave. I'll be back later :o
[04:47] <artnay> bye
[04:47] <artnay> mhz: job well done :9
[04:48] <mhz> c ya later artnay 
[06:05] <mhz> art.ubuntu.com
[06:09] <mhz> r those guys here?
[06:21] <lukacu> mhz: i am one of the admins of auc ...
[07:01] <mhz> re
[08:59] <mhz> lukacu: why not all artists upload SVG or source files in AUC ?
[09:18] <lukacu> mhz: dont know
[09:18] <lukacu> the bigger problem are those who upload just svg file
[09:19] <lukacu> it is much harder to create a thumbnail out of a svg
[09:20] <lukacu> that is one of the reasons we have about 30 pending submissions ...
[09:21] <lukacu> and thats why we need a good faq for the auc ... guidelines and so
[09:21] <mhz> gee
[09:22] <mhz> work looks much more than just organizing stuff :(
[09:22] <mhz> ok.
[09:22] <mhz> lukacu: and why authentification is same as for ubuntu sites?
[09:23] <lukacu> is it?
[09:26] <lukacu> damn, still only seven votes ...
[09:29] <lukacu> we have more than 30 members and more than 20 of them are ... asleep?
[09:31] <mhz> hehe
[09:32] <mhz> it's always same old story
[09:32] <mhz> that's why meritocracy rules
[09:32] <mhz> so, if others dont participate, I dont accept compaints :)
[09:32] <lukacu> :)
[09:33] <mhz> 2.5 hrs to end voting
[09:33] <lukacu> and counting... ;)
[09:34] <lukacu> well it doesnt really matter ... the importiant thing is that we start working
[09:34] <lukacu> others will wake up later ... i guess
[09:37] <mhz> yup
[09:37] <mhz> other will show up
[09:37] <mhz> lukacu: maybe you can clarify this to me.. is this Artwork Team or Art ?
[09:37] <mhz> lukacu: maybe you can clarify this to me.. is this Artwork Team or Art Team ?
[09:37] <mhz> I meant :)
[09:38] <lukacu> dont know ... let me see the announce email
[09:39] <lukacu> it says Artwork Team :)
[09:40] <lukacu> and i think thats better
[09:41] <lukacu> art team sounds like a bunch of artist doing their performaces and istallations ;)
[09:41] <mhz> lukacu: then, we gotta modify all places it says ArtTeam (like in AUC)
[09:41] <mhz> hehehehe
[09:41] <lukacu> and we are doing some serious work here ;)
[09:41] <mhz> indeed
[09:41] <mhz> Ubuntu performances!
[09:41] <mhz> UP day!
[09:41] <mhz> :D
[09:41] <lukacu> :)
[09:42] <lukacu> i guess we have to ... create a redirect and all that
[09:42] <mhz> so, I'll redirect ArtTeam wiki page to ArtworkTeam
[09:42] <mhz> kamstrup: hi
[09:42] <mhz> kamstrup: did you vote?
[09:43] <kamstrup> mhz, no...
[09:43] <kamstrup> cheers anyway :-)
[09:43] <mhz> hehehe
[09:43] <lukacu> kamstrup: vote! ... it is your right, your duty ;)
[09:43] <kamstrup> hehe
[09:43] <kamstrup> i will i will
[09:44] <mhz> how many of you guys have signed the Code Of Conduct and therefore are Ubunteros?
[09:44] <lukacu> cool ... we have 8 votes now :)
[09:45] <lukacu> lol
[09:46] <lukacu> brb
[09:49] <kamstrup> voted thursday
[09:50] <lukacu> good
[09:51] <mhz> lukacu: page redirecting ok
[09:52] <mhz> lukacu: so, have you signed CC?
[09:52] <lukacu> nope ... not yet
[09:53] <lukacu> ive not been a really active member of the community before the art team
[09:53] <lukacu> ... artwork team ... sorry ;)
[09:55] <mhz> heheh
[09:55] <lukacu> what do you need to sign the cc?
[09:55] <mhz> but you are and WILL be right?
[09:55] <lukacu> well i hope so :)
[09:55] <mhz> CC is a commitment to Ubuntu meaning
[09:55] <mhz> thats #1 requirement
[09:56] <mhz> if you can do that and feel commited then just read the CC and sign it (digitally or with pen and fax it)
[09:56] <mhz> Danten: hi there
[09:57] <mhz> Danten: please vote for out meeting
[09:57] <mhz> out =our
[09:57] <lukacu> mhz: yeah ... now i remember why i have not sign it yet
[09:57] <Danten> oh
[09:57] <lukacu> i am lazy ;)
[09:57] <mhz> hehehe
[09:57] <mhz> good point
[09:57] <lukacu> and i dont have digital certificate
[09:58] <mhz> not a problem
[09:58] <lukacu> will have to get one i guess
[09:58] <mhz> there's a nice HowTo
[09:58] <mhz> and no need of certificate, just your gpg key
[09:59] <lukacu> Danten: vote!
[09:59] <lukacu> :D
[09:59] <kamstrup> I added a time-conversion link to the meeting wiki page
[09:59] <lukacu> bachler: hi
[10:01] <bachler> hiho
[10:01] <bachler> merry xmas
[10:01] <lukacu> bachler: vote -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeamVoting
[10:01] <lukacu> merry xmas to you too
[10:02] <lukacu> bachler: your vote does matter ;)
[10:03] <bachler> then ill just not vote :-P
[10:03] <lukacu> kamstrup: good work
[10:04] <lukacu> bachler: nooooooo ;)
[10:04] <mhz> kamstrup: very good tip
[10:04] <mhz> and I just added a command line way :D
[10:05] <bachler> hmm, im a bit busy.. i have to fix some stuff, i just orderd a new box.. dual opteron242, 1gb ecc/reg dd400 ram.. gainward 6600gt goldensample :-)
[10:05] <bachler> xmas present for myself
[10:06] <lukacu> well its less than a minute of your time ... if you intend to be at the meeting
[10:07] <mhz> bachler: ok, dont vote but do you think you cn make it to the meeting?
[10:08] <bachler> can't promise anyting, but ill try
[10:08] <mhz> thx
[10:08] <lukacu> great
[10:08] <bachler> i mean.. the world could go under :-P
[10:08] <mhz> hehehe
[10:08] <lukacu> lol
[10:08] <mhz> under M$???
[10:08] <bachler> yeah.. that would be the same thing..
[10:09] <bachler> if all goes as planed im setting up my new box then
[10:10] <mhz> bachler: excellent box to help with new ideas in Artwork team :)
[10:10] <bachler> yeah
[10:10] <bachler> gimp is a theraded app, so itll work gooood on my dual optys
[11:07] <lukacu> mhz: where is that HowTo now?
[11:13] <artnay> ping mates!
[11:13] <artnay> lukacu: which HowTo? :)
[11:13] <mhz> pong artnay 
[11:14] <artnay> oh, lots of text... /me reads
[11:14] <lukacu> something about certificates and ubnutu cc ... nothing art related
[11:14] <artnay> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20051226/2fbd8270/dapperproposal3-0001.jpg
[11:15] <artnay> those open office icons bother me on a plain gnome-panel
[11:15] <lukacu> i like the thunderbird icon
[11:15] <artnay> maybe I just have too small monitor :(
[11:16] <artnay> umh, it's a bit too hostile although you could link it to something african
[11:16] <lukacu> oo.org icons really have too many details
[11:16] <artnay> and I don't understand that document
[11:17] <artnay> the next will be most likely based on Tango, some patience please :)
[11:18] <mhz> lukacu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey
[11:18] <mhz> and..
[11:19] <artnay> are you posting something on ML?
[11:20] <lukacu> what should we post there?
[11:21] <artnay> I don't know, just thought you're going to sign something
[11:22] <artnay> and you mentioned a HowTo
[11:22] <mhz> artnay: he may consider becoming an ubuntero by signing CodeOfConduct
[11:22] <artnay> sounds reasonable
[11:23] <mhz> lukacu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[11:23] <mhz> latter has even an example of signing CC
[11:23] <lukacu> ql
[11:24] <lukacu> now all i have to do is read this and stop being lazy ;)
[11:24] <mhz> hehhe
[11:25] <mhz> and vote! :)
[11:25] <mhz> lukacu: artnay:
[11:25] <mhz> in your expert opinions
[11:26] <lukacu> lol ... my "expert" opinion
[11:26] <mhz> what would be the logical steps to follow by people who would like to create themes for GNOME?
[11:26] <mhz> Go where, do/read what?
[11:27] <mhz> I am meeting potential Chilean volunteers, they are Graphic designers
[11:27] <mhz> so.. I need to email them with instructions/tips/suggestions in Spanish
[11:31] <artnay> to tell the truth, I don't have any GNOME docs nearby
[11:31] <artnay> who uses GNOME anyway? *g*
[11:32] <artnay> no, just joking
[11:32] <mhz> it's that they will help me for Edubuntu
[11:32] <mhz> :)
[11:32] <mhz> and Edubuntu default is GNOME :(
[11:32] <artnay> G 2.8... I so wanted to like it, but no. I even prefer XFCE over G
[11:33] <artnay> what parts were you thinking?
[11:33] <lukacu> yeah ... gnome is really annoying sometimes
[11:34] <artnay> it's not very well documented, I afraid :(
[11:36] <artnay> or then I just should learn to use google more efficiently
[11:37] <mhz> ?
[11:38] <artnay> ask them to do some changes in gnome-panel :)
[11:39] <lukacu> mhz: i am afraid i cannot help you ... i am using gnome but thats all
[11:39] <mhz> well, afaik, ogra has been working on a menu generated by profiles
[11:40] <artnay> mhz: what kind of designers are they?
[11:40] <mhz> hmm graphic
[11:41] <mhz> they are studying at university
[11:42] <artnay> mhz: posters? stamps? :)
[11:43] <mhz> ohhh
[11:43] <mhz> web sites, campaigns, marketing, posters, paper, envelopes, logos, etc
[11:45] <artnay> hmh, maybe they should take a look at Tango project unless they already are familiar with it
[11:46] <artnay> show Ubuntu to these guys and have a list of different processes
[11:47] <artnay> then ask their opinions. or do some sort of usability test... I don't know, they are your friends after all :)
[11:51] <mhz> heheh
[11:51] <mhz> okis
[11:51] <mhz> so, today we have no 'guidelines' for designers who want to collaborate with artwork?
[11:52] <lukacu> nope ... do we behave like we do?
[11:52] <lukacu> ;)
[11:52] <lukacu> i hope we will clear this thing at the meeting
[11:53] <mhz> indeed
[11:53] <artnay> I hope one of the janes could attend
[11:54] <lukacu> but then again: we have so many thigns to discuss that the meeting could last ... days ;)
[11:55] <artnay> canonical should publicize a branding guide
[11:56] <mhz> artnay: they'll hire a professional company of designers, afaik.
[11:56] <artnay> mhz: I've heard of that, but they still do want to have community artwork
[11:56] <mhz> indeed
[11:57] <artnay> and we haven't seen what Andy is doing atm
[11:57] <mhz> that's why I agree on the importance of next meeting
[11:57] <artnay> and it's never been announced anywhere
[11:57] <artnay> that should be a part of their branding guide
[11:57] <mhz> artnay: that's one of my other 'thinking' issues ;)
[11:57] <lukacu> is the voting closed now?
[11:57] <mhz> no 100% bazaar 
[11:58] <mhz> 3 minutes to go, AFAIK
[11:58] <lukacu> lol
[11:58] <lukacu> hurry folks! :P
[11:58] <mhz> heheheh
[11:58] <mhz> yeah, sure!
[11:59] <mhz> Mon Dec 26 22:58:45 UTC 2005
[11:59] <mhz> Mon Dec 26 22:59:12 UTC 2005
[11:59] <lukacu> ...
[11:59] <mhz> lukacu: difficult part will be the time consuming 'counting votes'
[11:59] <mhz> :D
[11:59] <lukacu> lol
[12:00] <mhz> Mon Dec 26 22:59:44 UTC 2005
[12:00] <mhz> Mon Dec 26 22:59:59 UTC 2005
[12:00] <mhz> okis!
[12:00] <lukacu> :D
[12:00] <artnay> ok, how should /artwork be done?
[12:00] <mhz> Pople: No more voting please!
[12:00] <lukacu> write that on the voting page
[12:01] <artnay> top category: news, latest changes in /artwork* pages
[12:01] <artnay> TOC on the right side
[12:02] <artnay> introduction/ a short summary