[12:02] that's a great project (well at least the aim is). I appreciate very much the work you've been doing [12:02] how is the documentation? :o [12:02] artnay, coming soon [12:02] :) [12:03] i'm the only devel .. and it quite an hard work ... [12:03] I bet [12:03] i've already done the bootup process the volume-manager and the installer [12:04] well mainly the installer has been fixed from guadalinex liveinstaller [12:04] bugs .. localization and some other stuff to work with dsslive [12:05] but in these days i would play :P [12:05] so artwork is fine ... [12:08] I liked the screenshot. although it's blue, it's clean and quite modern, too. job well done :) [12:08] hey mhz [12:08] artnay: hey [12:08] had a brainstorm? [12:09] :) [12:09] not really, I needed to solve my personal issues regarding non free software [12:09] anyways, some updates at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal [12:09] here and there [12:09] mhz: relating what? === mhz tabbing [12:10] or was/is it too personal? :o [12:11] kind of [12:13] well I'm not using 100 % pure FOSS, hopefully I will not get killed for that [12:14] :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:23] Tm_T: anyways, this is what I was talking about earlier: http://fitz.sourceforge.net/ === mhz read === artnay compiles [12:27] artnay: i think 1st top priority should be to unite *buntu art teams and encourage them to work together [12:28] 2nd priority, yes... standarize wiki pages by *buntu falvour [12:28] mhz: the problem is that there's no clear teams [12:28] artnay: has this issue been discussed by CC? [12:28] therefore Artteam (the contact page) could divide people into different sections (Ubuntu, Kubuntu *) [12:28] mhz: I don't think so [12:29] and as for Kubuntu, riddell said there's no any particular team at the moment [12:30] then, we gotta make sure flavours leaders show up in the artwork meeting :) [12:31] I don't think there are any leaders *g* it's just a bunch of people here and there in quite disorganized way doing contributions [12:32] umh, where's my grammar checker [12:33] then, we gotta make sure flavours leaders show up in the artwork meeting. Important: if not solved... we can use the ML [12:33] artnay: ridell, kubuntu? ogra, edubuntu, [12:33] and what about xubuntu? [12:34] no idea [12:34] they have this logo contest going on [12:34] a11y, Henrik [12:34] indeed [12:35] wiki and www, highvoltage [12:35] interesting discussion, but i am really tired ... must ... go ... bed ... zzzzzzzzzz :) [12:35] good night all [12:35] lukacu: sleep well [12:35] g night, lukacu [12:37] well the meeting announce will be on the main page of the fridge [12:38] but I still prefer mailing people, especially now during christmas time [12:39] artnay: i can email henrik, edubuntu people, and highvoltage [12:40] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst [12:40] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [12:40] sorry [12:40] ehehe [12:40] mhz: sure, that would most probably bring some attention [12:43] artnay: okis, but this will happen after dinner :( [12:46] http://www.mockup.org/about [12:47] artnay, i'm collaborating with that guy ... [12:47] since 3 days :) [12:48] he's helping for qt stuff :) [12:48] really nice project [12:49] oh === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lukacu [n=lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.dynamic.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:10] hi [10:52] hey lukacu [10:53] hey klepas [10:56] it seems thursday will be the most likely day for our meeting [11:02] yes ... i dont expect a dramatic turnover now :) [11:03] is thursday 2300 utc ok with you? [11:09] it's not too bad [11:09] :) [11:10] morning i guess? === omeg [n=omega@h8441190238.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:12] er.. ja :) [11:14] ja == yes ? :) [11:16] yes :) [11:16] sorry :) [11:18] well we use 'ja' as 'yes' in slovenian language though it has german roots [11:18] so it was not really difficult ;) [11:19] German is my first language [11:20] lukacu: http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/107 - Merry Christmas :) [11:23] thanks ... wait a moment ... ill upload my christmas card (it is in slovenian but the context is clear i guess) [11:25] klepas: http://colos.fri.uni-lj.si/luka/images/content/voscilnica2006.png ;) [11:26] dont know if you link christmas with snow in australia though... :) [11:28] as a European, i surely do :) [11:29] hehe [11:29] lovely work :) [11:29] the trees look lovely [11:30] "2006"? [11:30] its for new year too :) [11:31] i worked on something else for days but then i changed the plan and inkscaped this really fast [11:32] hehe :P [11:32] came out rather well [11:32] :) [11:32] time for a shower [11:33] klepas: well i guess the next year is 2006? [11:33] be back later [11:33] ok [11:33] :) === klepas is now known as klepa[s] === klepa[s] is now known as klepas [03:32] hey all [03:35] hello artnay [03:36] hey lukacu [03:37] ahoy [03:55] artnay: klepas: hi [03:55] hi all [03:55] klepas: iirc you sent an email inviting people to the artwork meeting [03:56] or was it you artnay ? [03:58] mhz: yes i have [03:58] 2 so far [03:58] and the mail server seems to be posting them into the archives [03:58] which ought to mean they've been sent [03:58] but their don't seem to be arriving in people's inboxes :( [03:59] klepas: that mail was sent to art ML and ...? [03:59] never arrives in people's inboxes [03:59] =\ [03:59] klepas: ive received both emails [04:00] i've received neither. and i sent them [04:00] strange [04:00] mhz: here's the online version: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-December/000543.html [04:00] mhz: also please see, ASAP! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeamVoting [04:00] klepas: yup, i inculded that url content in a wiki page [04:00] :) [04:00] sorry, i am forgetful [04:01] and i'm sleepy [04:01] klepas: so you sent it to kubuntu and art only [04:01] no [04:01] kubuntu-users and ubuntu-artwork [04:01] by the way [04:01] could someone contact Daniel Robitaille soon [04:02] good, i am sending it to edubuntu, edubuntu-devel-es, ogra, highvoltage, ubuntu-users and ubuntu-marketing [04:02] and kindly ask him to put up the winning poll option [04:02] thanks :) [04:02] coming back to that [04:02] i will be going to sleep [04:02] someone needs to mail Daniel Robitaille [04:02] in about 4 hours if i am right [04:02] klepas: i am [04:02] and just tell him the meeting date [04:02] and time [04:03] as from that poll on the wiki [04:03] in roughly 4 hours [04:03] might be more [04:03] yup, it seems thursday [04:03] yeo [04:03] *yep [04:03] there's not much votes, wonder if there will be more... [04:03] 6 votes is a hell of a democracy! [04:03] lol [04:03] :) [04:03] yea [04:04] thanks god we have meritocracy ruling over democracy :) [04:04] :) [04:04] mhz: give the other people on the other mailing lists you're sending the mail to a bit of time to respond [04:04] say make it 6 hours [04:04] okis [04:04] i'm at GMT/UTC +10 [04:04] and it's 02:04 now [04:05] so there is still over 6-8 hours left before the deadline we set [04:05] that should give those people some time [04:05] , so I betta move it to 23 UTC [04:05] yep [04:05] that sounds good [04:05] thanks mhz [04:05] np [04:05] as i said, this are the stuff i can do [04:06] and there's actually 7 votes so far! [04:06] giving opinions on art it's just a matter of liking or disliking, no art arguments :) [04:06] cool!! [04:06] this meeting is going to rock [04:06] :) [04:07] yes!! === klepas awaits it [04:07] lol [04:07] finally we will be able to get some organisation into the team [04:07] klepas: I can invite my mom! [04:07] so we can put mouse to canvas [04:07] she'll always support me [04:07] :) [04:07] mhz: i've invited some people from the tango project along as well [04:07] that's good idea [04:07] and it seems some people from Linux Australia might also show [04:08] klepas: what about andy? is he attending? [04:08] someone from the kubuntu list mailed me asking us to create a kubuntu art package for universe [04:08] I contacted bvc but he hasn't replied yet [04:08] artnay: andy told me he's on holiday on Fraser island [04:08] maybe I should send an email to him [04:09] which is off the main continent of Australia [04:09] but at least volvoguy will be there [04:09] i don't think he has a net connection [04:09] artnay: yes, that is important [04:09] we might need to talk about a new art coordinator [04:09] also, if Andy doesn't show [04:09] i can relate everything to him at LCA in 27 days [04:09] :) [04:10] so he'll be releasing his icon set on the same day, right? [04:10] we'll probably spend a few late nights at the university college accommodation hacking away :) [04:10] artnay: it's supposed to be a surprise, but yep :) [04:10] shh! [04:10] :) === klepas is excited [04:11] by the way guys [04:11] what's the diff between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoList [04:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal [04:11] mhz: one is the list which artnay composed [04:11] hehe, yes. [04:11] essentially acting as the agenda for the meeting [04:11] :) [04:11] mhz: Proposal was meant to be the main page, List is just to get those things editable by all [04:11] jhmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [04:12] but oh, i see. [04:12] damn you cat! [04:12] ;) [04:12] hihi [04:12] by the way guys [04:12] the big "project" i want to work on after the meeting [04:12] is composing a ubuntu and kubuntu art package for universe [04:12] we've already got the green lights from ogra [04:13] and i am sure no one will have anything against some packaged kubuntu art either :) [04:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle [04:14] that one doesn't mention how to get it via apt [04:14] (sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title, it's in Universe) [04:15] alrighty guys [04:15] i'm going to be off [04:15] i need the sleep [04:15] mhz: we could still remove all unnecessary text from /ArtowkrTodoProposal and rename it as /Artwork [04:15] g night [04:15] mhz: remember to send that mail! it's utterly vital!!! [04:15] well mails [04:15] :) [04:15] klepas: night [04:15] dont worry [04:15] :) [04:16] I am on it at this very moment [04:16] mhz: and then we could start the /UbuntuArtwork page from scartch, move things from /ArtworkTodoList there and some other sites that haven't been linked well [04:16] mhz: especially the one to Daniel Robitaille in 6-8 hours :) [04:16] artnay: good idea I'll finish my 3 pending emails and that's next [04:16] night klepas [04:16] artnay: correction! good idea I'll finish my 4 pending emails and that's next [04:17] :) [04:17] enjoy the holidays folks :) [04:17] :) [04:17] you too, klepas [04:17] no holiday here [04:17] http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/107 === mhz loves to work [04:17] :) [04:17] yep, I have work tomorrow... [04:17] this is just having fun [04:17] indeed [04:19] mhz: first of all, we should have an idea what parts of /ArtworkTodoList could be used in all the projects [04:24] /ArtworkTodoProposal should have a short summary and all mentioned links should work [04:25] but we still have some time left before the meeting [04:25] that would be a goal for us, get it done before the meeting [04:25] anyways, I'm cooking now [04:28] heheh [04:28] i am about to cook once i send those 3 mails left [04:28] artnay: i do agree with you, though [04:29] after lunch, i can definately work on ideas for 'to do' [04:36] mails to danielle and 'the rest' already sent [04:47] done but now I have to eat and then leave. I'll be back later :o [04:47] bye [04:47] mhz: job well done :9 [04:48] c ya later artnay [06:05] art.ubuntu.com [06:09] r those guys here? [06:21] mhz: i am one of the admins of auc ... [07:01] re === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:59] lukacu: why not all artists upload SVG or source files in AUC ? [09:18] mhz: dont know [09:18] the bigger problem are those who upload just svg file [09:19] it is much harder to create a thumbnail out of a svg [09:20] that is one of the reasons we have about 30 pending submissions ... [09:21] and thats why we need a good faq for the auc ... guidelines and so [09:21] gee [09:22] work looks much more than just organizing stuff :( [09:22] ok. [09:22] lukacu: and why authentification is same as for ubuntu sites? [09:23] is it? [09:26] damn, still only seven votes ... [09:29] we have more than 30 members and more than 20 of them are ... asleep? [09:31] hehe [09:32] it's always same old story [09:32] that's why meritocracy rules [09:32] so, if others dont participate, I dont accept compaints :) [09:32] :) [09:33] 2.5 hrs to end voting [09:33] and counting... ;) [09:34] well it doesnt really matter ... the importiant thing is that we start working [09:34] others will wake up later ... i guess [09:37] yup [09:37] other will show up [09:37] lukacu: maybe you can clarify this to me.. is this Artwork Team or Art ? [09:37] lukacu: maybe you can clarify this to me.. is this Artwork Team or Art Team ? [09:37] I meant :) [09:38] dont know ... let me see the announce email [09:39] it says Artwork Team :) [09:40] and i think thats better [09:41] art team sounds like a bunch of artist doing their performaces and istallations ;) [09:41] lukacu: then, we gotta modify all places it says ArtTeam (like in AUC) [09:41] hehehehe [09:41] and we are doing some serious work here ;) [09:41] indeed [09:41] Ubuntu performances! [09:41] UP day! [09:41] :D [09:41] :) [09:42] i guess we have to ... create a redirect and all that === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:42] so, I'll redirect ArtTeam wiki page to ArtworkTeam === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:42] kamstrup: hi [09:42] kamstrup: did you vote? [09:43] mhz, no... [09:43] cheers anyway :-) [09:43] hehehe [09:43] kamstrup: vote! ... it is your right, your duty ;) [09:43] hehe [09:43] i will i will [09:44] how many of you guys have signed the Code Of Conduct and therefore are Ubunteros? === kamstrup is visiting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeamMeetings [09:44] cool ... we have 8 votes now :) === mhz hughs kamstrup, the voter [09:45] lol [09:46] brb [09:49] voted thursday [09:50] good [09:51] lukacu: page redirecting ok [09:52] lukacu: so, have you signed CC? [09:52] nope ... not yet [09:53] ive not been a really active member of the community before the art team [09:53] ... artwork team ... sorry ;) [09:55] heheh [09:55] what do you need to sign the cc? [09:55] but you are and WILL be right? [09:55] well i hope so :) [09:55] CC is a commitment to Ubuntu meaning [09:55] thats #1 requirement [09:56] if you can do that and feel commited then just read the CC and sign it (digitally or with pen and fax it) === Danten [n=danten@h188n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-artwork [09:56] Danten: hi there [09:57] Danten: please vote for out meeting [09:57] out =our [09:57] mhz: yeah ... now i remember why i have not sign it yet [09:57] oh [09:57] i am lazy ;) [09:57] hehehe [09:57] good point [09:57] and i dont have digital certificate [09:58] not a problem [09:58] will have to get one i guess [09:58] there's a nice HowTo [09:58] and no need of certificate, just your gpg key [09:59] Danten: vote! === bachler [i=rakahang@62.101.48.8] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:59] :D [09:59] I added a time-conversion link to the meeting wiki page [09:59] bachler: hi [10:01] hiho [10:01] merry xmas [10:01] bachler: vote -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeamVoting [10:01] merry xmas to you too [10:02] bachler: your vote does matter ;) [10:03] then ill just not vote :-P [10:03] kamstrup: good work [10:04] bachler: nooooooo ;) [10:04] kamstrup: very good tip [10:04] and I just added a command line way :D [10:05] hmm, im a bit busy.. i have to fix some stuff, i just orderd a new box.. dual opteron242, 1gb ecc/reg dd400 ram.. gainward 6600gt goldensample :-) [10:05] xmas present for myself [10:06] well its less than a minute of your time ... if you intend to be at the meeting [10:07] bachler: ok, dont vote but do you think you cn make it to the meeting? [10:08] can't promise anyting, but ill try [10:08] thx [10:08] great [10:08] i mean.. the world could go under :-P [10:08] hehehe [10:08] lol [10:08] under M$??? [10:08] yeah.. that would be the same thing.. [10:09] if all goes as planed im setting up my new box then [10:10] bachler: excellent box to help with new ideas in Artwork team :) [10:10] yeah [10:10] gimp is a theraded app, so itll work gooood on my dual optys [11:07] mhz: where is that HowTo now? === mhz getting it [11:13] ping mates! [11:13] lukacu: which HowTo? :) [11:13] pong artnay [11:14] oh, lots of text... /me reads [11:14] something about certificates and ubnutu cc ... nothing art related [11:14] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20051226/2fbd8270/dapperproposal3-0001.jpg [11:15] those open office icons bother me on a plain gnome-panel [11:15] i like the thunderbird icon [11:15] maybe I just have too small monitor :( [11:16] umh, it's a bit too hostile although you could link it to something african [11:16] oo.org icons really have too many details [11:16] and I don't understand that document [11:17] the next will be most likely based on Tango, some patience please :) [11:18] lukacu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey [11:18] and.. [11:19] are you posting something on ML? [11:20] what should we post there? [11:21] I don't know, just thought you're going to sign something [11:22] and you mentioned a HowTo [11:22] artnay: he may consider becoming an ubuntero by signing CodeOfConduct [11:22] sounds reasonable [11:23] lukacu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto [11:23] latter has even an example of signing CC [11:23] ql [11:24]