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Lord_Athur | is there an edubuntu version with SElinux to download from the web? | 12:25 |
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crimsun | not that I know of | 12:25 |
crimsun | coincidentally, I'm reading a host of SELinux papers :/ | 12:25 |
Lord_Athur | :D | 12:27 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 01:49 |
Lord_Athur | mhz_BRB, | 01:49 |
Lord_Athur | mhz_BRB, /join #banux | 01:50 |
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mhz | lol! | 03:54 |
mhz | http://openmortal.sourceforge.net/ http://openmortal.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html | 03:54 |
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: there will be NO meeting on 28 Dec and 4 Jan. | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | see also #edubuntu-es and #edubuntu-de | ||
=== Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Fri Dec 16 10:22:09 2005 | ||
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mhz | hi all | 12:53 |
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writer | Hi all! | 03:13 |
zakame | hi writer :D | 03:13 |
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writer | I get today DVD Edubuntu - is it LiveCD? | 03:14 |
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Yagisan | I don't think so | 03:20 |
writer | Who know about Edubuntu-DVD. On the disk I found only art file. May be I bad find? | 03:22 |
Yagisan | writer: ogra may know, but he is on holidays | 03:23 |
writer | Thanks. Now on the West is Xmas? Yes? When will end the holidays on the West? | 03:25 |
Yagisan | writer: It depends, most companies get 2-4 weeks holidays. | 03:26 |
Yagisan | writer: usually most people are back by January 7 | 03:27 |
writer | Yagisan: Thank you. OK. In Russia holidays will by January 10. Happy New Year! | 03:29 |
zakame | rocking | 03:30 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 03:31 |
Yagisan | writer: Happy New Year to you too! | 03:31 |
Yagisan | G'day Lord_Athur | 03:31 |
Lord_Athur | thanks Yagisan, good day for you too | 03:31 |
Lord_Athur | I've installed kubuntu breezy today, but kubuntu cannot show me the folders in /mnt of other partition | 03:33 |
Yagisan | Sorry Lord_Athur, I'm not very familiar with Kubuntu | 03:37 |
Yagisan | does ls /mnt in a terminal work | 03:37 |
Lord_Athur | ok Yagisan | 03:37 |
Lord_Athur | :D | 03:37 |
writer | Lord_Athur: Yes, in /mnt is nothing. See in /media | 03:40 |
Lord_Athur | there is nothing in media | 03:40 |
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writer | And what find you? | 03:41 |
Lord_Athur | a??? | 03:41 |
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Lord_Athur | writer, do you speak spanish? | 03:41 |
Yagisan | Lord_Athur: nothing is mounted there then | 03:41 |
writer | Lord_Athur: No, I speak bad English and good Russia | 03:42 |
Lord_Athur | ok writer :D | 03:43 |
writer | Lord_Athur: But intersting Ubuntu very | 03:43 |
Lord_Athur | that's the important | 03:44 |
writer | I write the articles about Ubuntu on the http://linuxcenter.ru | 03:46 |
Lord_Athur | I'll see them | 03:47 |
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mhz | ogra: is this german http://www.ai-vdi.org/ ? | 04:37 |
mhz | ogra: BTW, I am convinced... I will work on XFCE instead of wmaker | 04:38 |
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mhz | Yagisan: hehehe | 04:39 |
mhz | well, I'll try | 04:39 |
jsgotangco | bah work in gnome :P | 04:39 |
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zakame | on a celeron 266 :P | 04:39 |
Yagisan | zakame: I have a p2 233 right beside me | 04:40 |
Yagisan | 64mb ram | 04:40 |
mhz | jsgotangco: the good thing is I'll try to use only non-gnome dependant apps | 04:40 |
Yagisan | anyone wants testing on it, just let me know | 04:40 |
jsgotangco | well its gtk so you'll be seeing some | 04:40 |
mhz | jsgotangco: indeed | 04:40 |
zakame | Yagisan: w00t :) I've yet to blog about the celeron running the full gnome though | 04:41 |
Yagisan | you kids today are spoilt with your gui's, back in my day it was all punch cards and cli if you were lucky | 04:41 |
Yagisan | zakame: if I can find a board, I have a 6x86 120Mhz cpu here | 04:41 |
jsgotangco | gahhh i only saw a punch card, not actually use one | 04:41 |
mhz | jsgotangco: however, 'nomed' (aka, Daniel) is working on http://www.dsslive.org.test.ibiblio.org/mediawiki/index.php/Home | 04:42 |
Yagisan | I remember wiring up the plugboard on my pc | 04:42 |
mhz | jsgotangco: and that DSS project is not using gnome dependencies | 04:42 |
mhz | so I have some hopes | 04:42 |
zakame | Yagisan: ooh classic :) I didn't do much work on those though | 04:42 |
mhz | unless there's a very light KDE arounf | 04:43 |
jsgotangco | wow it looks like a launchpad project | 04:43 |
mhz | -f + d | 04:43 |
mhz | jsgotangco: which one? | 04:43 |
jsgotangco | DSS | 04:43 |
mhz | oh, yes! very cool project! | 04:43 |
mhz | just like openusability.org | 04:43 |
jsgotangco | mhz, actually LP will have infrastructure to let you create your own derivatives | 04:44 |
jsgotangco | orchard is just proof of concept | 04:44 |
mhz | jsgotangco: yup, but i will not use more LP until it is 'free as in freedom' | 04:44 |
mhz | i'll be patient | 04:45 |
jsgotangco | whatever suits you, i prefer to be productive :P | 04:45 |
mhz | so I'll use just the parts I need to (like auth for wiki) | 04:45 |
mhz | jsgotangco: yes, i know your preferences ;) | 04:45 |
jsgotangco | mhz, its not that, i need tools to create stuff, like for example, i'll need java so i could export to pdf... | 04:46 |
jsgotangco | there's no competely "free" toolchain that can do that at the moment | 04:47 |
mhz | jsgotangco: it doesn't matter how cool it looks or how good it is, If I can't share it with you, I won't use it | 04:47 |
mhz | so, as long as i know it is not free, I can't feel comfortable promoting its use | 04:48 |
mhz | I can be less or similar productive using Tutos project | 04:48 |
jsgotangco | how do you exactly define free anyways? FSF definition? | 04:48 |
mhz | ahhh, good question | 04:48 |
mhz | GPL would summarize it | 04:49 |
mhz | 4 basic freedoms will do to me | 04:49 |
Yagisan | I tend to agree more with Debian then the FSF about free | 04:49 |
mhz | Yagisan: i may consider use non-free software as long as I am not contributing to such project | 04:51 |
mhz | in this particular project, I am contributing | 04:51 |
mhz | so I need to be sure and feel comfortable enough about freedom | 04:51 |
Yagisan | mhz: I tend to see the wiki as non-free myself | 04:51 |
mhz | Yagisan: why? | 04:52 |
mhz | .oO(ogra will kick me.. maybe this is too much off topic) | 04:53 |
jsgotangco | mhz, those are pretty basic and besides, rms is a hippie =) | 04:53 |
mhz | lol | 04:53 |
mhz | well, good point | 04:53 |
jsgotangco | mhz, we haven't even tackled about branding and stuff | 04:53 |
mhz | but are the basis for what I have done and invested in last 3 years | 04:53 |
jsgotangco | these are just simple issues, but that's one reason why our firefox doesn't have the firefox logo | 04:53 |
Yagisan | mhz: it seeks to remove the copyright from contributors, yet wishes to use copyright to prevent people taking content from the wiki | 04:54 |
jsgotangco | actually its also possible that our browser shouldnt even be called firefox | 04:54 |
zakame | (gartoon has a fox though :P) | 04:54 |
mhz | Yagisan: ? | 04:54 |
jsgotangco | zakame, but the fox isn't trademarked, the logo is | 04:54 |
zakame | yup | 04:54 |
jsgotangco | pretty much how canonical has ubuntu and the ubuntu logo trademarked | 04:54 |
mhz | Yagisan: it keeps copyright. It is implied in RecentChanges | 04:54 |
jsgotangco | (dunno about kubuntu though) | 04:55 |
mhz | and also in Last modified by part, Yagisan | 04:55 |
mhz | Yagisan: who told you wiki wishes to use copyright to prevent people taking content from the wiki | 04:59 |
Yagisan | mhz: It was in the thread I started | 04:59 |
jsgotangco | a pretty long thread | 05:00 |
mhz | I dont recall ubuntu-doc people saying they use 'copyright' | 05:00 |
mhz | I do recall the need to protect good content to be screwed up | 05:01 |
Yagisan | mhz: where are the web archives, I can find the mail | 05:02 |
jsgotangco | nice chat but the sandman calls =) | 05:02 |
mhz | hehe, jsgotangco bye | 05:02 |
Yagisan | mhz: I recall being asked not to contribute if I wish to retain copyright over my work | 05:02 |
mhz | yes | 05:03 |
Yagisan | bye jsgotangco | 05:03 |
mhz | I recall that too | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | the problem was mostly attribution i believe | 05:03 |
mhz | Yagisan: and that is no related to whishing to have copyright over the content | 05:03 |
mhz | jsgotangco: indeed | 05:03 |
mhz | Yagisan: if a wiki is community driven content | 05:04 |
Yagisan | jsgotangco: yes, that was my motivation for posting | 05:04 |
mhz | we would all be the 'owners' of such content | 05:04 |
Yagisan | mhz: It's simple for me, if I author a doc, someone else must be the person to put it on the wiki, if others wish to use it | 05:05 |
mhz | and therefore, everytime I wish to add or modify (even syntaxis) I'd have to aske permission to every single persone | 05:05 |
ogra_ibook | wasnt there a decision in the last CC meeting that all wiki content will be CC-SA2.5 from now on ? | 05:05 |
mhz | yes, ogra | 05:06 |
ogra_ibook | btw dont mix up copyright with licenses ... | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | yep | 05:06 |
mhz | good point | 05:06 |
ogra_ibook | conent is always copyrighted | 05:06 |
Yagisan | yep - but some wish to public domain the wiki | 05:06 |
Yagisan | that is certainly not the terms I contribute on. my coding skills will never let me become a motu, | 05:07 |
Yagisan | but my other work may - unless my name is removed from said work - in which case - what proof do I have ? | 05:08 |
mhz | Yagisan: your name will always remain in a wiki | 05:10 |
Yagisan | wow - what a tangent from how do you define free | 05:10 |
ogra_ibook | Yagisan, you dont need coding skills to be a packager | 05:11 |
mhz | ogra: as a matter of fact,,, i need to be sure packages I will work on are as independtant as possible from GNOME | 05:12 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: no, it does make it harder to fix problems. I'm having issues with my ia32-libs-universe package, that would be easier to fix | 05:12 |
mhz | so I have been told to 'start packaging like that' | 05:12 |
Yagisan | if I knew where to look :( | 05:12 |
mhz | ogra: what skill shoul I need then? | 05:12 |
ogra_ibook | Yagisan, dig the other distros for similar errors in the bugtrackers and find a patch ;) | 05:13 |
Yagisan | mhz: I suggest determination, that's what gets me here | 05:13 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: umm, I think I'm the first | 05:13 |
ogra_ibook | oh, k | 05:13 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: for kicks, feel free to check this out http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/voodoo_magic_here/ | 05:14 |
ogra_ibook | then ask a specialist ;) Mithrandir is our amd64 guy, lamont does ia64 | 05:14 |
mhz | Yagisan: I have determination | 05:14 |
mhz | then what's next? | 05:14 |
Yagisan | and see if you can work out why it *always* looks for sdl in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32 like I set up ldflags | 05:14 |
ogra_ibook | mhz, basic scripting knowledge ... know how makefiles are set up and read the debian new maintainers guide | 05:15 |
Yagisan | mhz: patience, and a subscription to debian-mentors helps | 05:15 |
ogra_ibook | thats all you need for packaging | 05:15 |
mhz | okis, thx | 05:15 |
mhz | sounds simple | 05:15 |
mhz | let's see if I can make it :) | 05:15 |
ogra_ibook | also set up a pbuilder to build youor packages in a clean environment ... | 05:15 |
Yagisan | and a fresh chroot to test them | 05:16 |
ogra_ibook | and learn about lintian and lindam, the error checkers | 05:16 |
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Yagisan | and apt-cacher or similar set up | 05:16 |
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ogra_ibook | 2 distros ? | 05:17 |
Yagisan | Ubuntu + Debian | 05:17 |
Yagisan | but I broke my debian chroots, and don't have bandwidth to fix them until Jan 7 | 05:17 |
mhz | wow!!! | 05:17 |
ogra_ibook | who needs debian anyway :) | 05:18 |
mhz | guys that sounds less simple now | 05:18 |
ogra_ibook | mhz, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto and read the debian NM guide | 05:18 |
ogra_ibook | that will get you started | 05:18 |
mhz | okis | 05:18 |
mhz | sorry to be running but, is the Debian NM is debian.org I assume? | 05:19 |
Yagisan | lets see, 2 distros * 2 arches * 2 releases = 8 chroots + 8 pbuilders for me | 05:19 |
Yagisan | mhz: yep | 05:19 |
mhz | ogra: did you see that xfce in action ? http://www.dsslive.org.test.ibiblio.org/mediawiki/images/Dsslive-desktop.png | 05:19 |
mhz | I guess that will suit your 'end-user-desktop' description :) | 05:20 |
ogra_ibook | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html | 05:20 |
ogra_ibook | mhz ^^^ | 05:20 |
Yagisan | not counting my i386 chroot for apps like wine, which is why I started ia32-libs-universe | 05:20 |
mhz | ogra: thanks for that extra care for me :) | 05:20 |
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Yagisan | bye mhz | 05:21 |
ogra_ibook | hey, i'm still the motu master (at least on paper ;) ) | 05:21 |
mhz | bye Yagisan I hope you get less bills and more inputs | 05:21 |
mhz | :) | 05:21 |
mhz | ogra: hehehe | 05:21 |
mhz | you are | 05:21 |
mhz | BTW, ogra you are too many MR.'s | 05:22 |
mhz | :) | 05:22 |
mhz | not only on papr | 05:22 |
ogra_ibook | yes, thats why i'm only motu master on paper... not enough time for active motu stuff | 05:22 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: master, would you like to laugh at^W^W check carefully my build logs ? | 05:22 |
ogra_ibook | sure, where are they ? | 05:24 |
Yagisan | http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/voodoo_magic_here/deng_1.8.9+1.9.0beta3-1ubuntu2 | 05:24 |
mhz | ogra: is that Guide in PDF or friendly print somewhere in your HD? | 05:24 |
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Yagisan | mhz: IIRC that is a bigish guide when printed | 05:24 |
ogra_ibook | mhz, i havent used it since ~2years | 05:24 |
ogra_ibook | i dont have a local copy | 05:24 |
Yagisan | mhz: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.pdf | 05:25 |
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Yagisan | mhz: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/maint-guide.es.pdf <- | 05:26 |
Yagisan | mhz: spanish help ? | 05:26 |
ogra_ibook | Yagisan, looks like youre trying to compile with the 64bit version of sdl | 05:26 |
mhz | Yagisan: thx, N-NOTU | 05:26 |
ogra_ibook | hey \sh | 05:26 |
mhz | Yagisan: thx, N-MOTU | 05:26 |
mhz | Yagisan: no, I prefer EN.. usually more updated | 05:27 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: that's the error, but I deliberately set the path /usr/lib32 where I have a 32bit version | 05:27 |
\sh | moins | 05:27 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: I can't find what is sending sdl to try and link with the 64bit libs | 05:27 |
mhz | \sh: moin | 05:27 |
Yagisan | G'day \sh | 05:28 |
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ogra_ibook | my server gives up :( | 05:28 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: your HE server? | 05:28 |
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ogra_ibook | Yagisan, -L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libSDL.so | 05:29 |
ogra_ibook | \sh, yes | 05:29 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: u need smtp, imap and webspace? | 05:29 |
ogra_ibook | i'm pondering to spend another 700 for new server HW | 05:29 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: yes, but I can't find what sets /usr/lib/libSDL.so | 05:29 |
ogra_ibook | currently its running an a minimal setup.... | 05:29 |
ogra_ibook | but it seems to reboot itself all 5-6h | 05:30 |
ogra_ibook | and sometimes it only shuts down | 05:30 |
ogra_ibook | i guess it overheats or the memory is broken | 05:30 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: ebay it !! | 05:30 |
Yagisan | O:-) | 05:30 |
ogra_ibook | nope, i'll buy a new one | 05:30 |
ogra_ibook | and use the only case for new HW at home | 05:31 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: I meant ebay the old one | 05:31 |
Yagisan | people will buy anything there | 05:31 |
mhz | okeys, ogra and Yagisan thx for the extra help | 05:32 |
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mhz | bye al | 05:32 |
mhz | bye all | 05:32 |
Yagisan | no worries mhz | 05:32 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: what do you need..I could help out right now :) | 05:32 |
ogra_ibook | Yagisan, i want to recycle the old one | 05:32 |
Yagisan | ogra_ibook: ok, but if it's broke, it's always nice to have someone pay to take it away | 05:33 |
ogra_ibook | \sh, not sure yet ... | 05:33 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: if you need stable imap/smtp stuff..my server can serve this :) | 05:34 |
ogra_ibook | \sh, my prob is that i have 4G hwdb data on the disk ... i dunno if i want to set it on this heavy load right now to mirror it away | 05:34 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: well...what you can do is to go to the HE DC and check there | 05:35 |
ogra_ibook | \sh, mail is currently running ok ... | 05:35 |
ogra_ibook | shit... it crashed again it seems | 05:36 |
ogra | ogra@aleph:~$ uptime | 05:38 |
ogra | 18:05:55 up 22 min, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.08, 0.10 | 05:38 |
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\sh | we have to put the hwdb stuff on revu or on my server asap | 05:38 |
ogra | \sh, i orderes a vserver at HE for it | 05:39 |
ogra | *ordered | 05:39 |
ogra | but they dont delicer in less than 7-14 days | 05:39 |
ogra | *deliver | 05:39 |
\sh | hum...normally they are faster | 05:41 |
ogra | i even called and begged | 05:41 |
ogra | they arent | 05:41 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: what about bringing the hwdb to the C DC? | 05:42 |
ogra | \sh, thats the long term solution | 05:42 |
ogra | currently i dont trust the machine enough to mirror it over the net... | 05:42 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: actually you have to do it on the HE DC :) | 05:43 |
\sh | s/on/in/ | 05:43 |
ogra | yup | 05:43 |
ogra | http://cgi.ebay.de/19-1HE-Intel-P4-3-0GHz-160GB-512MB-S-ATA-RAID-Server_W0QQitemZ5845484175QQcategoryZ8074QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | 05:44 |
ogra | i'll buy that one and put the HD in to mirror it directly i think | 05:44 |
ogra | the nice thing is, even with the additional vserver for 20 i'll save 20 in the end and have redundancy ... | 05:46 |
ogra | \sh, the prob with pop/smtp is, that the machine is also the DNS and has the MX entries ... its not just easy redirecting ... | 05:47 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: hmmm....updating primary ns records at denic :) | 05:48 |
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ogra | \sh, which takes me a lot effort ... | 05:48 |
ogra | \sh, i'll rather buy that server and replace my oldie | 05:48 |
\sh | ogra: well...if it gets the same ip address :) | 05:49 |
Yagisan | ogra: dumb question time - can't you temporally replace your broken system with a spare pc ? | 05:49 |
ogra | Yagisan, i have no phys. access to the DC its in ... and the vserver i wanted as a quick replacement doesnt get set up this year anymore | 05:50 |
\sh | ogra_ibook: you have :) drive to airport business park :) | 05:51 |
ogra | so all i can do is buy a replacement box now (its needed anyway) and set it up as fast as i can | 05:52 |
ogra | \sh, doesnt gain me anything without having a replacement | 05:52 |
\sh | ogra: true | 05:52 |
Yagisan | ogra: so pull your spare parts out of the garage | 05:53 |
Yagisan | ogra: It's probally heat, so bring some fans | 05:53 |
ogra | Yagisan, i wont replace rubbish with rubbish | 05:53 |
ogra | Yagisan, i have touched this machine 5 years ago the last time .... i dont want to touch it the next 5 if possible afetr this is fixed | 05:54 |
ogra | *havent | 05:54 |
Yagisan | ogra: just a band-aid until you get a new box | 05:55 |
ogra | what ? sitting with a hairdryer in the DC ? | 05:56 |
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\sh | grmpf... | 06:00 |
\sh | something is accessing one partition..and fuser doesn't tell me which app..and I'm unable to umount this partition now | 06:01 |
Yagisan | \sh: lsof ? | 06:01 |
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\sh | Yagisan: that was it... | 06:05 |
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HendrikHAZ | Hi guys! | 06:30 |
HendrikHAZ | Ogra, last time you told me to check in Synaptics installer for Kubuntu desktop. I did that, but did not find any packages. Where can I add the packages to the Synaptics manager in order to download them? I am running Edubutu Breezy | 06:31 |
HendrikHAZ | Oh, I forgot. I would like to install the Kubuntu desktop on an edubuntu installation | 06:32 |
HendrikHAZ | Can anyone help me with this? | 06:35 |
ogra | the kubuntu packages are not on the CD | 06:36 |
ogra | you need th eonline repositories for it | 06:36 |
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HendrikHAZ | Sorry again, I am a complete newbie to Linux and Ubuntu. Where can I get them? | 06:38 |
ogra | in the settings menu in synaptic ... | 06:39 |
HendrikHAZ | Ok I am there and then? | 06:41 |
ogra | select repositorys | 06:41 |
ogra | you'll get a popup window | 06:41 |
ogra | look whats listed there (i suspect its only the CD) | 06:42 |
ogra | if so, click the "add" button on the right | 06:43 |
ogra | and add the online repos | 06:43 |
HendrikHAZ | Yes, it said Edubuntu cdrom Breezy. I assume I have to add | 06:43 |
ogra | exactly | 06:43 |
ogra | if you want to kbe able to install from all 17000 packages we offer, check all the checkboxes | 06:43 |
HendrikHAZ | Ubuntu 5.1, sec updates or updates? | 06:43 |
ogra | just breezy badger ... | 06:45 |
ogra | updates and sec. updates is something you can do additionally ... | 06:46 |
HendrikHAZ | k, it's downloading the repositories now. Kubuntu desktop will be in there? | 06:46 |
ogra | yup | 06:46 |
ogra | you'll find it with the search function then | 06:46 |
HendrikHAZ | K, seems I found them. I just need to install the Kubuntu desktop, right? Or are there other packages too? | 06:48 |
HendrikHAZ | sorry, it highlighted a whole bunch more. Will try it out. Could this potentially hose my installation or will it just add the Kubuntu desktop to choices for interface? | 06:50 |
ogra | you will have gnome and kde then ... | 06:51 |
HendrikHAZ | K ogra thx a lot! I will get back to ya if I have any more trouble. You have been a gr8 help m8! | 07:04 |
ogra | :) | 07:04 |
ogra | i'm happy about every user we get ;) | 07:04 |
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spacey_ki | http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Edubuntu-Children_Of_Edubuntu_1024x768.png | 08:55 |
spacey_ki | hehe | 08:55 |
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