[12:11] <fr> whats a good temperature indicator for cpu temp in kubuntu?
[12:11] <leafw> is it possible to have a control+h command for KDE that will minimize all the windows for an app?
[12:12] <apokryphos> fr: there's ksensors and ktemperature, I believe
[12:14] <Forza> Im starting to get tierd on this crap, what the h*ll should i do to get VLC play the wmv streaming file (mms://), and yes i have installed the w32codecs ????????????
[12:14] <slow-motion> re
[12:14] <manveru> maybe gstreamer-mad ?
[12:15] <fr> yea thanks apokryphos, man apt-get is nice and quick :)
[12:15] <fr> I followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?
[12:15] <manveru> not sure, but i think vlc uses gstreamer... [correct me if i'm wrong] 
[12:15] <crimsun> vlc uses statically linked libmad directly.
[12:16] <manveru> oh...
[12:16] <crimsun> it'd be interesting to convert it to gstreamer0.10, but I think we'll see tremendous resistance since gstreamer isn't available on all the platforms that vlc supports
[12:16] <manveru> yeah, vlc is somewhat special
[12:17] <manveru> also, i'm cursing gstreamer everytime i want to install something
[12:17] <manveru> my apt-get is broken... :(
[12:18] <manveru> Forza: did you try it in #ubuntu ?
[12:19] <Forza> manveru, yes i did
[12:20] <manveru> oh :|
[12:20] <manveru> you know, i've no idea how to help you... and i'm tired to death...
[12:20] <manveru> but i bet that google knows a bit more than me
[12:21] <manveru> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88920.html
[12:21] <manveru> appearently for totem, but vlc seems to be mentioned
[12:23] <Forza> manveru; thx but i dont have the energy to do all that, it's sad that nothing seems to work smooth in linux...
[12:23] <manveru> Forza: well... i, for one have working wmv... tho i never used vlc
[12:24] <manveru> at least i think it works... cannot remeber a video that didn't play
[12:25] <richard1001> When I connect to my wireless network, my localhost seems to disapear.
[12:25] <richard1001> I run dhclient to connect
[12:26] <Forza> Jippi! Tomtem error: "Totem could not startup. No reason."
[12:26] <richard1001> And then ping 127.0.0.1 doesn't work
[12:26] <manveru> Forza: being sarcastic damages your health
[12:27] <manveru> good night, everyone
[12:27] <_krille> Hi !
[12:28] <_krille> how are everybody ?
[12:29] <_krille> good night, everyone !
[12:31] <leafw> who uses kubuntu on a laptop? How can the kded be stop from preloading entire CDs, but still mount them automatically?
[12:32] <leafw> is it the /usr/share/services/kded/mediamanager.desktop ?
[12:37] <richard1001> leaf, that file has an entry 'X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true' I guess if you change true to false and reboot it will stop autoloading and still mount
[12:38] <richard1001> Gotta be worth a try
[12:38] <leafw> well, sounds good
[12:39] <leafw> just which one should be false, the autoload or the load-on-demand?
[12:39] <leafw> or both
[12:39] <leafw> load-on-demand is false now.
[12:39] <richard1001> autoload I guess
[12:39] <leafw> no need to boot, the services are controlable from the System Settings
[12:43] <leafw> didn't help, kded is still bugging around
[12:43] <leafw> and stalling the computer
[12:44] <richard1001> maybe you need to set X-KDE-Kded-load-on-demand=false
[12:44] <leafw> it is false
[12:44] <leafw> maybe it's the konqy preloader ?
[12:44] <leafw> kded runs lots of things
[12:45] <leafw> hum no, it's set to load-on-demand true only.
[12:48] <richard1001> I wonder if it's actually reread the new configuration
[12:48] <leafw> all I did was to restart the daemon from the System Services
[12:49] <richard1001> That should have done it
[12:49] <leafw> I agree
[12:53] <richard1001> I don't see it (kded) in system services - but I see two instances in the process table
[12:54] <leafw> in the system services it is in the lower right, in services
[12:54] <leafw> I have a ppc breezy, it shows mac-style
[12:54] <leafw> I've posted a question in kubuntuforums.net
[12:54] <leafw> let's see what happens
[12:54] <leafw> gotta go
[01:29] <os2mac> did updates, sound no workie...
[01:30] <os2mac> sound card is recognized, levels are up, mute is off... but no sound.
[01:30] <os2mac> any ideas?
[01:31] <Forza> Does programs i uninstall leave any traces in Linux?
[01:32] <apokryphos> yes, the config files are around still
[01:32] <raphink> if you just uninstall, then yes Forza
[01:32] <raphink> unless you use the purge option
[01:32] <apokryphos> use the --purge option in apt-get to remove them
[01:32] <raphink> apokryphos: ;)
[01:33] <os2mac> no help avail for me then?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> os2mac: made sure that line jack sense and headphone jack sense are muted?
[01:39] <Forza> Aint there any way to get the Package Manager in Kubuntu to uninstall them completely without leaving any traces behind 'cause i don't like working through the console?
[01:39] <os2mac> not to sound like an ass... but how do I do that? throught the sound mixer
[01:40] <Forza> ...and is there any program that cleans up old traces??
[01:41] <Forza> Someone plz?
[01:41] <nekostar> install synaptic
[01:42] <nekostar> its way better than the kubuntu one :D
[01:42] <os2mac> Hobbsee?
[01:43] <Forza> nekostar, does it also fix old traces??
[01:43] <nekostar> you might have to install a package then tell it to purge it but should
[01:43] <nekostar> say i had gaim and waneted to kill EVERYTHING i could do that or um
[01:44] <nekostar> apt-get remove --purge gaim
[01:44] <nekostar> but there is an option in synaptic to purge :)
[01:44] <nekostar> im sorry i just dont know the kde manager well
[01:44] <apokryphos> I think it calls it "Complete Removal"
[01:44] <nekostar> nalioth, might know
[01:44] <nekostar> yeah thats the one apokryphos i think :)
[01:44] <apokryphos> there isn't one
[01:45] <nekostar> isn't one what
[01:45] <nekostar> adept i think its called
[01:45] <nalioth> might know what?
[01:45] <apokryphos> there isn't a purge option in adept
[01:45] <Forza> Sad there isn't such a program as CCleaner to Linux aswell
[01:45] <nekostar> about using a gui package monitor in kubuntu to purge packages>?
[01:45] <nalioth> adept needs some work to catch up to synaptic, tis true
[01:46] <Forza> Why doesn't Kubuntu use Synaptic as default then??
[01:46] <nekostar> is there any failings with using synaptic in kubuntu nalioth ?
[01:47] <nekostar> besides some extra packages to support it?
[01:47] <apokryphos> there isn't
[01:47] <nekostar> kaw
[01:47] <nekostar> kay **
[01:47] <nekostar> b/k i know you cant sudo kate for instance :P
[01:48] <kkathman> nekostar:  no, but you can kdesu kate
[01:48] <kkathman> if you are in KDE, you should use kdesu, at the CLI, use sudo
[01:49] <nekostar> o:
[01:49] <nekostar> kde su
[01:49] <nekostar> lol
[01:49] <nekostar> i prefer a root pw and doing things as root but im cwazyt
[01:49] <kkathman> yes you are
[01:49] <nekostar> :)
[01:50] <kkathman> even the wiki says you are asking for trouble
[01:50] <nekostar> root was made for a reason :)
[01:50] <kkathman> no
[01:50] <kkathman> no need whatsoever in ubuntu
[01:50] <nekostar> debian either
[01:50] <nekostar> ~_^
[01:50] <nalioth> nekostar: none at all
[01:50] <nalioth> nekostar: just use kdesu to start it
[01:51] <kkathman> I administer 3 boxes and never use root
[01:51] <nekostar> neway :P
[01:51] <apokryphos> sudo is the superior model
[01:51] <nekostar> er
[01:51] <nekostar> ubuntu on a box?
[01:51] <nekostar> at a DC?
[01:51] <bam_> anyone set up kubuntu for a bluetooth PAN?
[01:51] <kkathman> in fact, its preferred, more safe and more secure
[01:51] <nekostar> . . .
[01:52] <Forza> Ok so I have installed Synaptic, but there is still one problem, how do I get rid of the old traces beside delete them manually?
[01:53] <martman> i cant seem to mount my 2nd hard drive as a normal user
[01:53] <nekostar> eh
[01:53] <nekostar> is the package in your system atm Forza ?
[01:53] <nekostar> if not install it
[01:53] <martman> i created a new decide on the desktop and edited my fstab
[01:53] <martman> (added users to the options)
[01:53] <nekostar> then select it again for COMPLETE removal
[01:53] <sproingie> Forza: old traces of that?  you can use aptitude and search for ~c
[01:53] <martman> but still get "could not enter"
[01:53] <sproingie> Forza: then use _ to purge it
[01:54] <Forza> nekostar, i dont remeber all the programs i have had installed
[01:54] <nekostar> heh
[01:54] <nekostar> lets back up
[01:54] <nekostar> what does it do
[01:54] <nekostar> and why are you erasing the traces
[01:56] <Forza> 'cause im want a clean system
[01:56] <sproingie> dpkg --list | grep '^.c'
[01:56] <nekostar> eh
[01:56] <sproingie> then apt-get remove --purge whichever packages it lists
[01:56] <nekostar> there's a package that goes with deborphan
[01:56] <nekostar> ..
[01:56] <nekostar> gimme sec
[01:57] <apokryphos> debfoster
[01:57] <nekostar> yeah
[01:57] <nekostar> thats the one :)
[01:58] <obsrv> I cant browse FTP with Krusader. It says that "ftp protocol is not supported with Krusader"
[01:58] <obsrv> What can I do?
[01:58] <bobbyd> obsrv, use konqueror?
[01:58] <sproingie> does debfoster detect removed but still configured packages?
[01:59] <sproingie> doesn't look like it when i run it
[02:00] <nekostar> dunno
[02:00] <nekostar> look if its a user config just look for the thing in /home/username
[02:00] <nekostar> :D
[02:00] <nekostar> otherwise dont worry about the remains unless its messing with a new package
[02:00] <obsrv> I want to use Krusader
[02:01] <obsrv> like I always do
[02:01] <obsrv> but in KUbuntu I cant
[02:01] <sproingie> or just do what i suggest and use aptitude or grep to search for them
[02:01] <apokryphos> obsrv: why krusader?
[02:01] <obsrv> because I got used to it
[02:01] <obsrv> I always use it for these things
[02:01] <obsrv> ftp, local browsing
[02:02] <apokryphos> Konqueror is the way!
[02:02] <Forza> aptitude is installed somewhere, cant find any icon to it though, how do I do to start it with the console?
[02:02] <apokryphos> krusader is just a duplication of effort, really
[02:02] <apokryphos> Forza: aptitude is CLI
[02:02] <obsrv> duplication of effort?
[02:03] <apokryphos> yes
[02:03] <kkathman> I find, personally, that krusader is much more reliable apokryphos :)
[02:03] <obsrv> how to understand?
[02:03] <martman> i keep getting "unable to enter" and "you do not havce access rights to this location" when i try and mount a partion
[02:03] <martman> i edited the fstab file
[02:03] <kkathman> konqeror as a file manager is very slow, and has problems deleting files
[02:03] <apokryphos> obsrv: I consider it pretty much obsolete, with Konq being around, personally.
[02:03] <martman> and chmod a+rw it
[02:03] <apokryphos> kkathman: never experienced severe problems
[02:03] <apokryphos> (with crashing or otherwise)
[02:03] <kkathman> apokryphos: Im sorry to disagree, but I much prefer krusader
[02:03] <Kibou> konq now is a 2-panel fm?
[02:03] <apokryphos> kkathman: what problem?
[02:04] <kkathman> apokryphos: deleting files especially
[02:04] <apokryphos> kkathman: yeah, what's the problem
[02:04] <kkathman> apokryphos: select 3 or 4, then click delete...it pops open that dialog, and takes 45seconds to 1 minute to delete
[02:04] <bobbyd> the firefox flash plugin uses a crazy amount of CPU time on this page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/
[02:04] <apokryphos> on a side note, I thought krusader supported all the same kioslaves as Konq
[02:05] <apokryphos> kkathman: it transfers them to trash, that's why. If you don't want to it to, then shift+delete
[02:05] <kkathman> no
[02:06] <Forza> Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces 2?
[02:06] <kkathman> it shouldnt take it THAT long to transfer tho
[02:06] <kkathman> apokryphos: krusader does have the option to delete or shred, also
[02:06] <apokryphos> kkathman: cancel that, I see no lag even when transferring to trash (haven't done *That* in a while). Just did 10 and it does it instantly here
[02:06] <apokryphos> dialogue doesn't even have time to come up
[02:07] <kkathman> apokryphos: then Im open as to some setting on my computer that needs tweaking
[02:07] <apokryphos> obsrv: worth checking to see if fish:// works in krusader -- use just like ftp:/
[02:07] <apokryphos> kkathman: does this happen with big files, or just many files?
[02:07] <kkathman> this is a persistent problem
[02:07] <apokryphos> though 5 files isn't really "many"
[02:08] <kkathman> apokryphos: it doesnt matter if its one or 5 or 10
[02:08] <apokryphos> I'd say there's definitely a problem there then
[02:08] <kkathman> right..I agree, ideas?
[02:08] <kkathman> my disk isnt even 50% full
[02:09] <kkathman> and krusader deletes them immediately
[02:09] <kkathman> no lag whatsoever
[02:09] <apokryphos> thinking about it, a plain transfer to trash is just an mv -- doesn't change the file's actual location on the disk, so it should always be pretty much instant
[02:09] <apokryphos> kkathman: I don't really know what could cause that. I'd say compile a bug report
[02:10] <apokryphos> perhaps mention that it works fine on mv/krusader etc
[02:10] <kkathman> I guess it wouldnt be a bug if its not repeatable tho, apokryphos
[02:10] <apokryphos> kkathman: reproducable. Well, it is for you.
[02:11] <kkathman> apokryphos: in konq  isnt it just doing an mv from point A to ~/.local/share/.Trash
[02:11] <apokryphos> *nod*
[02:11] <kkathman> er Trash
[02:11] <apokryphos> well, yeah
[02:11] <apokryphos> Trash:/, specifically
[02:11] <kkathman> I can easily do an mv at the CLI and its instantaneous
[02:12] <apokryphos> yup
[02:12] <kkathman> so thats why it SEEMS to be in Konq
[02:12] <apokryphos> even a cp shouldn't take a minute, though, of course
[02:12] <kkathman> right
[02:12] <apokryphos> kkathman: bugs.kde.org it is, I'd say
[02:13] <Forza>  Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces 2?
[02:15] <Forza> apokryphos, u got me but nevertheless i would like an answer :)
[02:15] <apokryphos> if you purge, then it removes the config files
[02:15] <gurumeditationer> Hi room, has anyone got a link to a 64bit faq that answers questions on getting w32codecs working on amd64 kubuntu 5.10?
[02:16] <apokryphos> if someone wanted to check your terminal log, they could find out what you've been up to though ;-)
[02:16] <apokryphos> gurumeditationer: can't, without a 32-bit chroot. Hence the w32 ;-)
[02:17] <gurumeditationer> in fedora core I could uninstall libxine x86-64 and install the i386 one and then the codecs would work
[02:17] <apokryphos> xine can still play pretty much most things
[02:17] <apokryphos> (including some wmvs)
[02:19] <Forza> VLC + Mplayer isn't bad either
[02:19] <gurumeditationer> I'm gonna have to solve this problem for flash anyhow
[02:19] <apokryphos> no flash on 64-bit
[02:19] <apokryphos> (not even for Windoze)
[02:19] <gurumeditationer> yeah, but I could use firefox 32bit with the flash
[02:19] <gurumeditationer> (on fc)
[02:19] <Forza> apokryphos, can u stream wmv3 files with kaffeine?
[02:19] <apokryphos> you'd need to have a 32-bit chroot
[02:20] <bam_> can anyone help with a amarok issue?
[02:20] <apokryphos> Forza: no idea
[02:20] <gurumeditationer> is there a good guide on going about this?
[02:20] <apokryphos> bam_: no-one can if you don't mention it ;-)
[02:20] <apokryphos> !chroot
[02:20] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:20] <bam_> lo;l
[02:20] <gurumeditationer> cheers dude
[02:20] <bam_> GStreamer-ERROR **: file gstelement.c: line 2993 (gst_element_change_state): assertion failed: (time >= element->base_time)
[02:20] <bam_> aborting...
[02:20] <bam_>  keep getting this, any ideas?
[02:21] <Forza> dont think so, i had a hard time to get any player to play some streaming pr0n in wmv3 excepr for Mplayer
[02:21] <apokryphos> bam_: no idea, but I always use xine engine on amarok
[02:21] <bam_> hmmm i will try
[02:21] <apokryphos> Forza: solution: forget streams!
[02:22] <Forza> apokryphos, streams are sometimes handy...
[02:23] <Forza> And it did work finally with Mplayer
[02:23] <bam_> perfecto!
[02:33] <Forza> What's the main reason u guys uses Linux?
[02:34] <bam_> faster than windows
[02:34] <bam_> more tweakable too
[02:34] <bobbyd> Forza, i don't like stealing software and I can't afford to buy all the microsoft products
[02:35] <bobbyd> Forza, less suceptable to viruses
[02:35] <bam_> then dont look at my 2nd hdd
[02:35] <Forza> bobbyd same reason as me then
[02:35] <zozvozozo> i'm new to kubuntu. have a problem i'm sure will annoy someone. :)
[02:35] <bobbyd> Forza, I don't want to owe anyone anything, I contribute to the projects I use, but I don't want to be forced to pay for something that doesn't fit my needs
[02:36] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, just ask...
[02:36] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, or, dataja
[02:36] <zozvozozo> just don't understand why glibc is not readily available.
[02:36] <bam_> so how do I make xine the default dvd player?
[02:37] <zozvozozo> is it not possible to just download and install glibc via Adept?
[02:38] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, that question will get more answers in #ubuntu as it's not Kubuntu specific...
[02:38] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, why do you need it?
[02:39] <zozvozozo> well, could not get Midnight Commander that way either, so in trying to build it, it needs it and i assumed it'd be there, it is not.
[02:41] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, midnight commander is in the 'universe' repository
[02:42] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, and to get glibc you install libc-dev
[02:42] <randabis> rofsmx
[02:42] <sproingie> apt-get build-dep whatever
[02:44] <Forza> Hmm, I wonder why some swedish letters is messed up in filenames I download to my computer but not in files I create locally
[02:44] <sproingie> Forza: using ftp?
[02:45] <Forza> nope
[02:45] <Forza> the same apply to files i copy from cds
[02:46] <bobbyd> zozvozozo, you would probably be best doing "apt-get build-essential"
[02:46] <sproingie> cd's have some weird and stupid hack to handle non-ascii filenames
[02:47] <Forza> sproingie, yeah but I don't know why it does the same to files i download?
[02:49] <Forza> It's really annoying 'cause i can't open some files with .  and  in their names 'cause of it
[02:49] <sproingie> could be whatever you're downloading with doing some kind of translation
[02:49] <sproingie> you using unicode?
[02:51] <Forza> rather iso 8859-1
[02:52] <Forza> but when i browse one of those files with the special letters i can set the charset to everything except iso 8859-1
[02:57] <sproingie> couldn't tell you off the top of my head why it's doing that
[02:57] <sproingie> try a different transfer method, like ssh
[02:57] <sproingie> er scp
[03:05] <Macke> what is the requirements for kubuntu with KDE??
[03:05] <Macke> i mean PC specs
[03:13] <nalioth> Macke: what do you have ?
[03:15] <leafw> Macke: I run it on a powerbook.
[03:16] <leafw> requirements are quite low.
[03:19] <`Nomad> I need help.. I updated to KDE 3.5, and no whave everything up to date.  But, kicker keeps disapearing.. I can,t get it to stay
[03:20] <Macke> i have a 233Mhz laptop
[03:27] <nalioth> !xubuntu
[03:27] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:27] <nalioth> Macke: perhaps you'd get more speed from the above
[04:41] <Knowerrors> !dma
[04:43] <guest_> need to get multimointor support...how?
[04:44] <lewis> what is the hw-detect command
[04:45] <_chris> has anyone installed X11R7.0 on breezy yet?
[04:45] <nalioth> _chris: it will not appear on breezy at all
[04:46] <_chris> so source huh
[04:46] <_chris> im not sure I'm willing to try that on my work system :)
[04:47] <nalioth> _chris: 7.0 will be in dapper
[04:47] <_chris> nalioth, how stable is dapper at this point?
[04:48] <nalioth> not very, atm
[05:51] <pussfeller> how can i get a 2.6.13 kernel without compiling it manually
[05:51] <kalenedrael> You don't.
[05:52] <kalenedrael> You compile it manually :P
[05:52] <pussfeller> or how can i make sure its set up the way ubuntu wants it
[05:52] <kalenedrael> You can compile any kernel you want, Ubuntu won't mind.
[05:52] <pussfeller> in theory
[05:52] <kalenedrael> In practice.
[05:52] <kalenedrael> I'm running kernel 2.6.13.
[05:52] <pussfeller> theres like a gazillion things to check tho
[05:53] <kalenedrael> A gazillion what?
[05:53] <pussfeller> all that stuff in qtconfig
[05:53] <kalenedrael> I just make menuconfig, make, make modules_install, make install
[05:54] <pussfeller> it builds all the stuff as modules taht need to be modules, and all the stuff that needs to be in the kernel itself that way too?
[05:54] <pussfeller> like ext3 support and all taht
[05:54] <kalenedrael> Well, you should look through it and select what you need and what you don't need.
[05:55] <pussfeller> thats what I am trying to avoid :)
[05:55] <pussfeller> i was thinking, put dapper in my sources, get that kernel only, and then return to breezy and reboot
[05:56] <kalenedrael> Ok, well, you can copy the config.
[05:56] <pussfeller> ah hah
[05:56] <kalenedrael> zcat /proc/config.gz
[05:57] <kalenedrael> (if it exists, which it should)
[05:57] <pussfeller> i can diff them and see what new stuff is in 2.6.13
[05:57] <pussfeller> and paste it or patch it
[05:57] <crimsun> Dapper's 2.6.15 depends on a lot of infrastructure than isn't in Breezy
[05:58] <crimsun> it's generally not a problem if you avoid using modules; otherwise you'll have a difficult time with the udev New World Order in Breezy
[05:58] <crimsun> (since, well, the udev isn't new enough in Breezy)
[05:58] <pussfeller> thtas why I didnt do it :)
[05:59] <pussfeller> crimsun: you think they will release a 2/6/13 kernel anytime soon?
[06:00] <crimsun> pussfeller: for Breezy? No. Nothing new save security fixes (generally).
[06:00] <pussfeller> ok
[06:00] <crimsun> our 2.6.12 is already more 2.6.13 than it is 2.6.12.
[06:21] <_sara> hello
[06:21] <_sara> can anyone tell me how to install a .sh file.. im in terminal as root and in the right folder/....
[06:27] <pussfeller> sh files are scripts
[06:27] <pussfeller> to run one, "sh file"
[06:27] <pussfeller> or chmod +x file, then ./file, if yer in the dir
[06:32] <dabaR_> how are file associations set in kde? Like to open a .mp3 with amarok, for example...
[06:33] <_sara> hi
[06:34] <dabaR_> hey
[06:34] <_sara> anyone up?
[06:34] <_sara> cool
[06:34] <_sara> can u help me install a  .sh file.... im in the right directory and im root
[06:35] <_sara> but i cant remeber the command
[06:35] <dabaR_> _sara: use sudo rather. but...to install a blah.sh file, you run "chmod +x blah.sh && ./blah.sh". Do you know the file is safe?
[06:35] <dabaR_> !rootsudo
[06:35] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:36] <_sara> yes
[06:37] <_sara> so the command is chmod +x audiokonvertor.sh   ?
[06:37] <dabaR_> ok, then substitute blah in my sentence for the real name of the file, and run that.
[06:37] <dabaR_> chmod +x allows the .sh file to be executable
[06:38] <dabaR_> ./ is for the shell to know that the file is in this directory you are in, and not somewhere on your $PATH which is where the shell normally looks for commands when you type one in.
[06:38] <dabaR_> is it only canadian people in here or what?
[06:39] <_sara> the file is called install .sh
[06:39] <_sara> when i type chmod +x install.sh   it goes to the next line but shows no error or anything.. did it do it?
[06:39] <dabaR_> _sara: copy and paste this into the terminal then with no parenthesys "chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh".
[06:40] <dabaR_> I think it did do it.
[06:40] <_sara> Installation cancelled.
[06:40] <_sara> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:40] <_sara> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:40] <_sara> kdialog: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:41] <dabaR_> _sara: this is in a terminal inside your desktop, or in a console(alt+ctrl+f1 for examople is a console)
[06:42] <_sara> konsole
[06:42] <dabaR_> ya, most likely, especially if that is the output you get from running ./install.sh
[06:42] <_sara> im trying basicsally to convert m4a music files to mp3 is why im trying to install the .sh file
[06:43] <dabaR_> what are you installing anyhow?
[06:43] <_sara> auduokonvertor
[06:44] <dabaR_> !info audiokonvertor
[06:44] <_sara> i was hoping i could use k3b but no
[06:44] <dabaR_> audio, right?
[06:45] <dabaR_> !info audiokonverter
[06:46] <_sara> from m4a format to mp3
[06:48] <dabaR_> ya, did you run this as root? try not as root, just ./install.sh
[06:48] <_sara> ok i'll try
[06:49] <kub-01> does anyone know why after correctly following QT's INSTALL file instructions, I get an error claiming there is no make file when i attempt to run the "configure" script?  I thought the make file was created by "configure".
[06:50] <dabaR_> post the install file to pastebin
[06:50] <dabaR_> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:28] <mac__> how can I get bitmap fonts (e.g., helvetica, terminus) to be available in KDE apps, such as konsole?
[07:37] <delltony> hi anyone arouund?
[07:39] <seth_k|lappy> hi
[07:39] <Hobbsee> hi
[07:39] <Hobbsee> quite possibly
[07:39] <delltony> hey anyoen good with partions ? reason i ask is gparted hates me
[07:40] <delltony> i need to give windoze about 10 more gig from my linux part
[07:40] <delltony> but i can't get it to resize :(
[07:41] <Hobbsee> why wont it resize?
[07:41] <delltony> thats what id like to know
[07:42] <delltony> its grayed out
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> you can't resize active parts, for one
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> you need ntfsprogs to touch NTFS, for two
[07:42] <delltony> oh
[07:43] <delltony> so  basically i need to use partmagic on the windows part?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> or fdisk, isnt it?  the linux one?
[07:43] <delltony> only reason and i do mean only reason i'm even using windows is cause i got a tivo and it has this tivo desktop thiing
[07:44] <delltony> what kills me though is tivo runs total linux
[07:44] <delltony> why it can't make a tivo desktop for linux is beyond me
[07:45] <delltony> well thanks i'm going to go play with part magic
[08:37] <Steven_M> hi all\
[08:46] <Steven_M> I just installed gnone on my kubuntu distro, but gnome is not shown in my session type menu. How do I get into gnome?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> gintas: ?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> why'd you do that?
[09:10] <gintas> soryry
[09:12] <Frazer> :) Konversation is a nice IRC client
[09:12] <Hobbsee> it is
[09:13] <Hobbsee> irssi's also nice, if you're in a console-y mood
[09:13] <Hentai^XP> I use irssi
[09:13] <Hobbsee> kvirc's apparently also nice
[09:13] <Hobbsee> not used it though
[09:14] <Frazer> iv not tried either
[09:14] <Hobbsee> kkathman uses it, and likes it
[09:14] <Hentai^XP> where did this bar come from
[09:15] <Hobbsee> which bar?
[09:15] <Hentai^XP> some bar found itself onto my desktop
[09:15] <Hentai^XP> but I guess I had hit something eariler
[09:18] <Frazer> well iv been using KDE for a week and I like
[09:19] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:21] <Frazer> anywhere good to get themes from? Im kind of easily bored
[09:21] <Frazer> like to change for each week
[09:22] <Hobbsee> kde-look.org
[09:22] <Hobbsee> have a look there, and drool - you'll never look for other themes again
[09:23] <Hobbsee> and icons and screensavers, and etc etc etc...
[09:23] <Frazer> oh :) ill go look
[09:24] <Hentai^XP> yeah its cool
[09:26] <Frazer> lol there are to manny XP style themes
[09:28] <Hentai^XP> yeah but you got to patch your uxtheme.dll
[09:30] <Frazer> :) there is pretty much themes for everything
[09:31] <Hobbsee> yeah
[09:31] <Hobbsee> and icons
[09:32] <Hobbsee> and a whole lot of other pretty stuff :)
[10:58] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:02] <Hobbsee> hi slow-motion
[11:02] <slow-motion> hi Hobbsee
[11:27] <neoncode> How do I know if "make" has worked correctly?
[11:27] <Hobbsee> no errors from it?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> look at the last few lines...
[11:28] <neoncode> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[11:28] <neoncode> Uh oh... the last line is that
[11:29] <Hobbsee> pastebin the entire last section?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> as in, error probably occured before that point, pretty hard to see what it is without more info
[11:29] <neoncode> hold on. I'll pastebin it
[11:29] <Hobbsee> k
[11:30] <neoncode> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/480039
[11:31] <neoncode> The configure script gave no errors
[11:31] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[11:32] <Hobbsee> dont know sorry, it's not a dependancy error, or anything simple like that...
[11:32] <neoncode> ._.
[11:34] <neoncode> Should I just checkisnstall it anyway?
[11:35] <Hobbsee> you could try...
[11:35] <Hobbsee> doubt it would kill anything :P
[11:36] <neoncode> How do I use checkinstall anyway? What command do I use?
[11:36] <manveru> !checkinstall
[11:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:36] <Hobbsee> sudo checkinstall
[11:36] <manveru> like Hobbsee says :)
[11:37] <Hobbsee> :P
[11:37] <Hobbsee> hi manveru
[11:37] <manveru> after that just type enter... should work without any change
[11:37] <manveru> hey :)
[11:38] <neoncode> uh,oh.. "****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation."
[11:38] <neoncode> Oh well
[11:38] <manveru> there's a changelog
[11:38] <manveru> uhm, or log
[11:38] <manveru> where you can see why it failed
[11:39] <FHX> HHi
[11:40] <FHX> Could someone help me out? i've run into some trouble while installing Kubuntu
[11:40] <Hobbsee> FHX: ask your question, then we'll see if someone knows the answer :P
[11:40] <FHX> Hehe okay, well what happens is I tried installing hte Cd when booting
[11:41] <FHX> I'm not partitioning, but erasing the entire hard drive. But it errored, so I re-burned the CD on anothe rcomputer properly, slow and everything and checked the images, then tried it again, and it failed. Then I tried it a third time and now when I go to partitions step it only allows me to manually edit the tables
[11:41] <FHX> what should I do?
[11:42] <Hobbsee> *rereads*
[11:42] <Hobbsee> you can do a manual edit, delete all the current partitions, then say "do it automatically"
[11:42] <Hobbsee> what was the error?
[11:42] <FHX> I'm quite panicked..it's my first time trying this out.
[11:42] <FHX> Error with copying the files
[11:42] <FHX> how do I delete all the current partitions?
[11:43] <Hobbsee> you're chatting from a separate machine, i take it?
[11:43] <FHX> right now I don't even have anything ot start up to
[11:43] <FHX> yeah
[11:43] <FHX> laptop
[11:43] <FHX> XD my computer's in a mess
[11:43] <FHX> apparently it doens't even sense a root
[11:43] <Hobbsee> go in to one of the partitions, from the installer, then select "delete this partition"
[11:43] <Hobbsee> then the next, then the next
[11:43] <Hobbsee> etc
[11:43] <FHX> Where?
[11:43] <FHX> It doesn't show me any partitions
[11:43] <Hobbsee> once you get to the manual partition section
[11:44] <FHX> okay hang on i'll restart it again and get to tha tsection
[11:44] <FHX> i didn't see any of my partitions last time
[11:44] <Hobbsee> ok, probably a good idea :)
[11:44] <FHX> yeah, i'm so scared. XD
[11:44] <Hobbsee> do you happen to have a livecd there, by the way?
[11:44] <Hobbsee> it doesnt bite...
[11:44] <FHX> a live cd?
[11:44] <Hobbsee> it does if you try to dual boot, and you dont know what you're doing
[11:44] <Hobbsee> hehe right, clearly not then
[11:44] <Hobbsee> doesnt matter
[11:44] <FHX> I"m not dual booting
[11:44] <FHX> i'm replacing everything so that my system only has Kubuntu
[11:45] <Hobbsee> yeah, that's fine :)
[11:45] <FHX> Still scared.
[11:45] <FHX> x.x
[11:45] <Hobbsee> my first shot was a dual boot - and i accidently "lost" windows...LOL
[11:45] <FHX> XD yes but I'm afraid the partitions aren't undoable or osmething
[11:45] <FHX> then that could be a big problem.
[11:45] <Hobbsee> they arent - you wont get your old data back...
[11:45] <FHX> no but I mean if I cna't use the space
[11:45] <Hobbsee> that's what happens when you erase your entire hard drive :P
[11:46] <Hobbsee> ah, right, yes
[11:46] <FHX> Huh?
[11:46] <Hobbsee> dont worry - i was joking around with you
[11:46] <FHX> Yeah. What if it won't let me access the space? Then I' doomed
[11:46] <FHX> x.x Shcary
[11:46] <Hobbsee> then you format the master boot record, and try again, or that's what i'd do
[11:46] <FHX> Okie if this doens't work could you help me with formatting the master boot record? I'm quite new to this.
[11:47] <FHX> ok
[11:47] <FHX> I'm at the partitioning step, it only offers me one option: "Manually edit partition table"
[11:47] <Shibby> Hi dudes. Does someone know if it's possible to download streams via MPlayer?
[11:47] <Hobbsee> yep, so go in there
[11:47] <FHX> so I've pressed enter and I'm in there, what should i do?
[11:47] <Hobbsee> ok, do you see any partitions in there?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> Shibby: no clue, sorry
[11:48] <FHX> it says: Configure software Raid, Configure the LVM, Guided partitioning, Help on partitioning, Undo change sto partitions, Finish partitioning an dwrite changes to disk
[11:48] <FHX> no partitions in there
[11:48] <FHX> *is worried*
[11:48] <FHX> I'm pretty sure I've looked thoroughly in all of them, no partitions ot be seen
[11:50] <FHX> during my first few tries it also had: Erase entirely and use IDE .. or something along htose lines. but now, none of that.
[11:50] <FHX> How do I undo this big mess..=/
[11:50] <FHX> I feel stupid. XD
[11:51] <Hobbsee> darn, cant find a screenshot
[11:51] <FHX> sigh.
[11:51] <Hobbsee> try guided partitioning
[11:51] <Hobbsee> just see what that does
[11:51] <Hobbsee> hopefully, it'll look at whatever you have, get rid of it, and replace it
[11:52] <FHX> it only allows me that same option to go back to that page: Manually edit partition table
[11:52] <FHX> which means there's no disk space to partition
[11:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, then go into the manually edit partition table
[11:52] <FHX> mhm, and I'm back in that place with the list of options i typed just now.
[11:52] <FHX> x.x
[11:53] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[11:53] <Hobbsee> you can always try the undo changes to partitions, and see what that does
[11:53] <Mr-Falkor> when I type: free -m in the terminal, I only have 25mb free, is that normal ? my total mem is 504
[11:53] <Mr-Falkor> and I got 485 used
[11:54] <FHX> Hm..
[11:54] <FHX> i tried that
[11:54] <FHX> it brings me to a blank screen and doens' tbudge.
[11:54] <FHX> im supposing since it can't eve ndetect it it probably won't be able ot remove them.
[11:54] <FHX> How do I start from scratch?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> FHX: i'd probably ask this in #ubuntu - the installer is the same, and there are a lot more people there, probably some who have done it recently, and can step you through this
[11:55] <FHX> Alright..thanks
[11:57] <FHX> Hm..supposing this problem cna't be solved, what should I do?
[11:58] <Mr-Falkor> FHX, burn backup CD`s, and do a fresh install
[11:58] <Hobbsee> of what though?
[11:58] <Mr-Falkor> mp3`s and stuff ?
[11:59] <FHX> Mr-Falkor: everything's been wiped, I have no backups.
[11:59] <Mr-Falkor> FHX, ok ; /
[11:59] <Hobbsee> no, a fresh install of what, was more what i was thinking
[11:59] <Hobbsee> this should be a fresh install
[12:00] <Mr-Falkor> humm
[12:01] <Mr-Falkor> only 19mem free, is that normal ?
[12:01] <Hobbsee> mine's 29mb free
[12:01] <Mr-Falkor> I`ve got 504 total
[12:01] <Hobbsee> i'd say so
[12:01] <Hobbsee> yeah, that looks about right
[12:01] <Hobbsee> this is 487 total
[12:02] <Mr-Falkor> and I got 484 used
[12:02] <yannux> hye everybody
[12:02] <Mr-Falkor> hi
[12:03] <Hobbsee> FHX: is there documents or somethign on that drive that you didnt back up?
[12:04] <FHX> I didn't bakcup anything except for data files
[12:04] <yannux> someone know how to put new theme on kde 3.5 ?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> yannux: download theme, go into system settings, appearances, themes, install new theme
[12:05] <Hobbsee> FHX: then you can tell them that you can delete the entire disk - as long as you still have the files that you need
[12:05] <Hobbsee> in #ubuntu, this is
[12:05] <FHX> I don' thave that option
[12:05] <yannux> Hobbsee: any themes item :s
[12:05] <FHX> The only option I have is to manually edit tables
[12:06] <Hobbsee> FHX: i meant telling the people in ubuntu that you can clear the disk, as you've backed up the data...
[12:06] <Hobbsee> yannux: say what?  i dont understand
[12:06] <FHX> oh okie
[12:06] <yannux> Hobbsee: sorry I'm franche
[12:06] <yannux> french*
[12:06] <Hobbsee> no problems, but i still dont understand :P
[12:07] <yannux> Hobbsee: In appearances I've not "themes"
[12:07] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[12:07] <Hobbsee> sorry, it's under panel, not appearances :P
[12:07] <Hobbsee> i usually use kcontrol - i never remember
[12:07] <Hobbsee> no wait!
[12:07] <Hobbsee> it's appearances, colour
[12:08] <yannux> yes it is on kcontrol, but not on system settings :s
[12:08] <Hobbsee> use either :P - both work
[12:08] <yannux> Hobbsee:  yes :)
[12:09] <yannux> Hobbsee: I thinked that kcontrol was out
[12:11] <rzei> hi everyone, i just installed kubuntu 5.10 and i cant change the resolution used for the login screen (2048x1536 or something), i am able to change the resolution used for my desktop however.. any ideas how to make that login screen run at 1600x1280 for example?
[12:12] <apokryphos> rzei: it's odd, since the login screen won't obey any settings in krandrtray -- the only real way, a lot of the time, is to make it so that it's the only option in your xorg.conf
[12:13] <apokryphos> similarly, you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to edit your xorg.conf, and there deselect all other resolution options.
[12:13] <rzei> argh :) and i thought i wouldn't have to use that anymore :D well that's ok, having done that for thousands of times.. i was just hoping that someone would had made a better solution to this already :)
[12:14] <rzei> hmm maybe i'll try that dpkg-reconfigure if that's anything more user friendly than sudo nano -wi etc
[12:15] <apokryphos> rzei: it's a CLI wizard to configuring your X
[12:16] <rzei> apokryphos: something like xf86config before xorg?
[12:16] <rzei> oki, well i guess it then goes easier by just manually editing
[12:17] <rzei> quite frankly i'm very glad how kubuntu managed to get my monitor and video card settings right automatically
[12:17] <rzei> it's the first time any linux distribution has been able to do it.. it seems that dri is on for default too
[12:43] <dragonkh> hello
[01:18] <_pablo> hola, tengo linux y windows instalados en un mismo disco duro, la musica la tengo en windows, como puedo escuchar desde este sistema operativo la musica q tengo en windows?????
[01:22] <raphink> _pablo: /join #kubuntu-es por favor
[01:22] <hugelmopf> _pablo: this is a english-speaking list. you might want to try #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[01:23] <treakath> hey
[01:23] <treakath> all
[01:23] <lamp--> hoi
[01:23] <treakath> how are you
[01:25] <lamp--> kde 3.5 is nice
[01:55] <Tm_T> !koffice
[01:55] <ubotu> KOffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org
[01:55] <Tm_T> hmm
[01:58] <luix> Hello Dukes! Anyone able to help w/ ATI driver issue?
[02:01] <Tm_T> luix: sure, have you checked from wiki?
[02:02] <luix> Done everything i could find in wikis and howtos on ubuntu.org
[02:02] <luix> No dice :(
[02:03] <luix> Damn hit the wrong button
[02:04] <luix> Tm_T: would it help if i Posted errors from xorg.0.log?
[02:06] <Tm_T> luix: dunno, I don't have ati on my dapper box
[02:08] <luix> Tm_T: I'm at wits end! Can't figure it out...   followed many threads and how to's, I'm starting to suspect maybe there is a bug with ATI driver concerning RADEON AIW card!
[02:08] <Tm_T> AIW ?
[02:08] <luix> All In Wonder
[02:08] <Tm_T> hmm, what series? what's your problem?
[02:08] <luix> 9800PRO
[02:09] <luix> driver loads but still shows mesa drivers used
[02:09] <Tm_T> eh
[02:09] <Tm_T> sounds... hilarious ;)
[02:09] <luix> tell me about it!
[02:09] <luix> LIke many on forums, me starting to hate ATI for bad Linux support!
[02:10] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:10] <Tm_T> have you checked that one?
[02:10] <luix> tried that already
[02:10] <luix> almost know that how to by heart now :)
[02:11] <luix> actualy now that i remember I did have it working once with FC4
[02:11] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix
[02:11] <Tm_T> sounds familiar that one?
[02:12] <luix> no because I do have erros in xorg.0.log
[02:13] <Tm_T> 0what kind of errors? use pastebin if you have multiple lines
[02:13] <luix> me going to paste bin...  stand by :)
[02:14] <Tm_T> aye sir
[02:15] <luix> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/480146
[02:16] <noc> jsut install real player
[02:17] <noc> and connot watch movie  with it
[02:17] <noc> ?
[02:17] <luix> try VLC media player
[02:18] <noc> where can i found this?
[02:18] <Tm_T> luix: interesting, you're sure agp module is loaded properly?
[02:18] <luix> google it
[02:19] <Tm_T> luix: sudo apt-get install vlc ;)
[02:19] <noc> i will try now
[02:19] <Tm_T> aye
[02:19] <luix> Tm_T: how do i make sure it is?  I think it is cause I don't see any error to that regard!
[02:19] <Tm_T> luix: lsmod | grep agp
[02:19] <luix> ohh yes
[02:20] <luix> remember doing that and it shows...   well let me do it again
[02:20] <luix> intel_agp              21276  1
[02:21] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:21] <luix> agpgart                32328  2 intel_agp,fglrx
[02:21] <luix> i get those two
[02:21] <Tm_T> then I don't know, I'm not home and not in my "doing all in a second" gear ;)
[02:22] <Tm_T> but, good luck with it
[02:22] <luix> thx
[02:22] <FHX> Hey all
[02:22] <FHX> I'm stuck at preparing for installation 0%
[02:22] <luix> Yeah its been a pain in the rear...  I know it works cause got it to work with FC4 once but had to try many times with fc4 too
[02:22] <noc> how can i install new source list and update it
[02:22] <noc> ?
[02:22] <FHX> could someone help?
[02:23] <FHX> it's been stuck for 20 minutes now
[02:23] <FHX> i think that's abnormal..
[02:23] <HeartBT> FHX, wha?
[02:23] <HeartBT> I was not lookinga
[02:23] <FHX> i'm installing kubuntu
[02:23] <FHX> and i'm stuck at : installing packages
[02:24] <FHX> it says: Preparing for installation...0%
[02:24] <FHX> been at 0 for 20 minute snow
[02:24] <HeartBT> nothing going?
[02:24] <HeartBT> hdd light doing anything?
[02:24] <FHX> nope
[02:24] <FHX> just frozen there
[02:24] <HeartBT> cd in drive?
[02:24] <FHX> nope
[02:25] <FHX> they ejected it
[02:25] <FHX> so i took it out
[02:25] <HeartBT> try to force a reboot.
[02:25] <FHX> o.o
[02:25] <FHX> but it won't ruin anything?
[02:25] <FHX> ..
[02:25] <HeartBT> if it's truly at zero, and not just showing zero, should be ok.
[02:25] <FHX> ok
[02:25] <FHX> what do i do when it reboots?
[02:26] <HeartBT> hope it installs packages  :)
[02:26] <FHX> so i ask it to boot from cd?
[02:26] <FHX> or boot from my hd?
[02:26] <luix> hd
[02:26] <HeartBT> !sources.list
[02:26] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:26] <FHX> ok
[02:26] <HeartBT> that's for whoever was asking about source lists.
[02:27] <FHX> do i insert the cd now?
[02:27] <HeartBT> FHX, crossing fingers?  no, no cd in tray
[02:27] <FHX> i just did
[02:27] <HeartBT> the fingers or the cd?
[02:27] <FHX> XD the cd
[02:27] <FHX> i read somewhere that it might help
[02:27] <luix> HeartBT: any ideas on ATI?
[02:27] <FHX> but.
[02:27] <FHX> i did cross my toe
[02:27] <FHX> *toes
[02:27] <FHX> ;)
[02:28] <FHX> there
[02:28] <HeartBT> luix, I used to be a rabid ATI fan, then 3-4 years ago I got into linux and learned that I did not like them, so sorry.  I know that they are a pain to deal with in linux and that's about it.
[02:28] <FHX> the cd thing worked
[02:28] <FHX> it's now loading nicely, 5% and going =)
[02:29] <noc> how can i add these sources.list to my machine?
[02:29] <luix> thx
[02:29] <HeartBT> Noc they go in the /etc/apt/ folder.
[02:29] <HeartBT> make a backup of the original if I may advise.
[02:30] <HeartBT> FHX, what was the cd trick?
[02:30] <HeartBT> insert it when it reboots?
[02:30] <FHX> yes
[02:30] <FHX> useful, that
[02:30] <FHX> i read it on google
[02:31] <noc> thx Herat
[02:31] <HeartBT> ?? it's a bootable disk!  how did it not boot to it?
[02:31] <kinfo> No match for "it's"
[02:31] <koshbot> it's[x] : No defenition found for word.
[02:31] <FHX> i told it not to
[02:31] <FHX> see , mhy harddrive is messed
[02:31] <HeartBT> oh
[02:31] <FHX> so it always has a screen right before booting
[02:31] <FHX> thorugh which i can enter setup
[02:31] <HeartBT> gotcha.
[02:31] <FHX> ^^
[02:31] <FHX> oooh shit.
[02:31] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:31] <FHX> i'm getting errors
[02:31] <FHX> Buffer errors
[02:31] <HeartBT> hollo
[02:32] <FHX> any ideas?
[02:32] <HeartBT> buffer?
[02:32] <HeartBT> no
[02:32] <FHX> yeah
[02:32] <FHX> it says: Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block
[02:32] <HeartBT> Eeek, that don't sound good.
[02:32] <FHX> but it's continuing..so hopefully it'll work..
[02:32] <FHX> *crosses toes, fingers, whatever else*
[02:32] <HeartBT> did this pc have an os on it before kubuntu?
[02:33] <FHX> yes
[02:33] <FHX> windows
[02:33] <FHX> but
[02:33] <FHX> it was wiped from previous failed installations of kubuntu
[02:33] <FHX> so in effect, I have no OS
[02:33] <FHX> except for what's installing now..
[02:33] <HeartBT> did windows work?
[02:34] <FHX> yes
[02:34] <FHX> but it was messed.
[02:34] <HeartBT> well, did windows function withing the parameters set forth by ms
[02:35] <FHX> I guess.
[02:35] <HeartBT> is it possible there is a hardware problem?
[02:35] <HeartBT> like bad HDD?
[02:35] <FHX> yeah
[02:35] <FHX> highly possible.
[02:35] <HeartBT> ok
[02:36] <FHX> I'm worried though, i hope my Kubuntu will still run well.
[02:36] <FHX> =(
[02:37] <HeartBT> if you have a failing hdd, or I/O board, then it may for a time, until it fails anyway.  Intermittant problems are the worst.
[02:37] <FHX> ..
[02:37] <FHX> what happens when it fails?
[02:37] <FHX> do I take it to the professionals?
[02:37] <FHX> x.x
[02:37] <FHX> I don't trust them.
[02:37] <HeartBT> How do you know that I'm not a professional?
[02:38] <FHX> I don't..but I just don't like the idea of going into an unknown computer shop and asking for help.
[02:38] <HeartBT> anyway, bad hdd is easy, really easy, you know how to replace one of them right?
[02:38] <FHX> Nope.
[02:38] <FHX> *glum*
[02:38] <HeartBT> hold on.
[02:39] <FHX> okie. *holds on*
[02:39] <NPC_Crys> Sorry about that.
[02:40] <NPC_Crys> So why won't amarok play me mp3's guys? I know you know.
[02:40] <HeartBT> no codecs?
[02:40] <apokryphos> NPC_Crys: check the faq on kubuntu.org
[02:40] <NPC_Crys> I've been trying to find a package to install with adept, but to no avail.
[02:42] <HeartBT> FHX, I guess it's down.  there was a nice tutorial online with PICTURES! on how to replace that.  If I were you, I would start looking for stuff like that now, while it works, to familiarize yourself with it incase it one day don't
[02:42] <FHX> aww..
[02:42] <FHX> okay
[02:42] <FHX> what does it consist of?
[02:42] <FHX> so I basically buy a new hd and follow instructions to replace it?
[02:42] <HeartBT> screws and a shiney box, and two cables usually.
[02:42] <FHX> oh.
[02:42] <HeartBT> yip
[02:42] <FHX> Hm..how much is a hd usually?
[02:43] <HeartBT> NPC_Crys, there are a number of files involved actually.
[02:43] <HeartBT> depends on size FHX
[02:43] <HeartBT> !codecs
[02:43] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[02:43] <NPC_Crys> HeartBT it was only one or two for ubuntu.
[02:43] <FHX> HeartBT: Hm..what size would you recommend to get?
[02:44] <HeartBT> FHX, at least a 30gb, at least.
[02:44] <NPC_Crys> Okay, the faq hit the nail on the head.
[02:44] <HeartBT> which faq?
[02:45] <FHX> HeartBT: Oh. I'm running on 40. XD so I'd probably opt for more or the same
[02:45] <HeartBT> FHX, sure, there ya go.
[02:45] <HeartBT> is it installing?
[02:45] <FHX> Any ideas on the cost of a 40gb?
[02:45] <FHX> yeah, installing well
[02:45] <FHX> asides from the buffer errors
[02:45] <FHX> but they've stopped now, only about 6-7 of them
[02:45] <NPC_Crys> kubuntu faq. I'm adepting right now.
[02:45] <HeartBT> www.pricegrabber.com or www.newegg.com
[02:46] <HeartBT> NPC_Crys, ah.  yes. THE FAQ.
[02:46] <HeartBT> Anyone want to send me a ticket to the south pacific?
[02:47] <florian> hi there, anyone here who can help me with a little KDE 3.5.0 problem?
[02:47] <HeartBT> florian, I can only try.
[02:47] <NPC_Crys> commiting changes!
[02:47] <florian> HeartBT: better than noting ;)
[02:48] <HeartBT> florian, that's what I always say.  I'm not running it right now, but I have used it on another load, what's the prob.
[02:48] <FHX> 78%...*continues reading book) ;P
[02:48] <florian> HeartBT: my problem is that my system does not detect dvds correct anymore since installing 3.5.0
[02:49] <HeartBT> does not detect correct?  as in, does'nt put them on desktop or....
[02:50] <florian> HeartBT: Konq opens and i get the error: file or folder media:/hdc doesnt exist
[02:50] <HeartBT> hdc IS your dvd drive?
[02:51] <florian> HeartBT: yes
[02:51] <HeartBT> so it might not be auto mounting.
[02:51] <florian> HeartBT: yes. this is the problem
[02:51] <florian> HeartBT: manual mounting works
[02:52] <florian> HeartBT: normal CDs/CDRs get automounted correctly
[02:52] <HeartBT> oh, to tell the truth, I do not know how kde handles automounting.  especially in light of it mounting cd's correct.
[02:53] <HeartBT> I would actually enjoy stumbling through this with you, but I'm running knome right now.
[02:53] <HeartBT> anyone else help out with this?
[02:53] <florian> HeartBT: :)
[02:54] <florian> HeartBT: i've read in the ubuntu forums and saw other users with this problem
[02:54] <HeartBT> I would even offet to reboot to kde, but I have a 5 year old due to awaken soon, and he's gonna want banana pancakes.
[02:55] <spacial> sup
[02:55] <florian> HeartBT: rebooting kde does not solve this. this has to be a HAL problem, but i cannot solve it
[02:55] <FHX> HeartBT: I think it may be stuck again
[02:55] <FHX> =(
[02:55] <HeartBT> florian, no I meant I would reboot to kde to help solve.
[02:55] <FHX> "Configuring ttf-tamil-fonts 80%
[02:55] <FHX> it's been at that for a while
[02:55] <FHX> Ooh
[02:56] <FHX> sorry, false alarm.
[02:56] <FHX> It's moving..
[02:56] <florian> HeartBT: ah, ok, i did not read clearly. :)
[02:56] <FHX> I get panicked easily..XD
[02:56] <spacial> does anybody know a app for comm. with nokia phone in kde?
[02:56] <FHX> Is it possible to increase my partition for Kubuntu later on if I want to?
[02:57] <HeartBT> sorry wrong x
[03:02] <FHX> WOOHOO
[03:02] <FHX> Login page
[03:02] <FHX> *leaps in joy*
[03:02] <FHX> LIterally.
[03:09] <dragonkh> anyone used user-,mode-linux ?
[03:09] <Phazeman> dragonkh: i did but it was about 2 years ago and it was under mandrake
[03:11] <dragonkh> Phazeman: hmm ok  - I am strugglign with the networking bit
[03:11] <dragonkh> Phazeman: also one of the kernels I dl says it mounts the filesytem as read only all the time
[03:15] <FHX> question: where is the equivalent of microsoft word etc. located?
[03:15] <NPC_Crys> Okay, I was a bit skeptical about this kde thing, but I'm liking the menus.
[03:15] <FHX> yeh
[03:15] <FHX> they're awesome
[03:15] <FHX> ^^
[03:16] <NPC_Crys> anybody got an ipod?
[03:16] <NPC_Crys> I'd like to know how well amarok works with them before jumping in.
[03:17] <FHX> amarok's pretty good I heard
[03:17] <FHX> *launches it*
[03:17] <NPC_Crys> Oh yea!
[03:18] <NPC_Crys> Nevermind, I'm in. I'm running some songs from my shuffle on amarok.
[03:18] <FHX> do you know where the equivalent of microsoft word is?
[03:18] <FHX> i can't seem to find it
[03:19] <JasperM> FHX : do you have OpenOffice installed ?
[03:20] <NPC_Crys> Yeah, I'm gonna say ooo too.
[03:22] <FHX> sorry dc'd
[03:23] <FHX> I was asking, how do I install open office?
[03:23] <JasperM> adept
[03:24] <FHX> Where do I find adept?
[03:25] <NPC_Crys> Hey, is it a beast to get java and flash going on this thing?
[03:26] <FHX> and uh
[03:26] <FHX> do i upgrade all my things?
[03:26] <FHX> adept updater lists a whole bunch
[03:27] <NPC_Crys> Well, I like to keep updated., but that won't make your ooo problem go away.
[03:27] <FHX> ..
[03:27] <FHX> ok
[03:27] <FHX> how about the usb devices?
[03:27] <FHX> i cNA"t get it to recognize thumb drives
[03:28] <NPC_Crys> What you wanna do is see if openoffice is in your KDE or start menu under office.
[03:28] <FHX> nope, not there
[03:28] <FHX> Is there a way to install it?
[03:29] <NPC_Crys> Okay, than instead of doing a full update, or maybe in addition to it, you ought to search for open office and install.
[03:29] <NPC_Crys> You would use adept package manager.
[03:30] <FHX> Hm..
[03:31] <FHX> where is that located?
[03:31] <NPC_Crys> start>system>package manager (adept)
[03:31] <NPC_Crys> If you are using breezy that is.
[03:31] <FHX> ah, found it. XD still a newbie
[03:32] <NPC_Crys> tskool. So am I.
[03:32] <FHX> i ha vea lot of open office listed should I install all of them?
[03:33] <NPC_Crys> hold on a sec. I'll get to where you are.
[03:33] <NPC_Crys> It's a good thing I have a big task bar. I use all of it.
[03:34] <FHX> ok
[03:34] <FHX> XD
[03:34] <FHX> say, i asked it to install 10 times and it's still not installed
[03:35] <JasperM> You also can search on ubuntu for the automatix-kubuntu installer script. This will install all you need ;)
[03:35] <FHX> JasperM: Where will I find that? o.o
[03:36] <JasperM> FHX : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:37] <FHX> ty
[03:37] <FHX> I can't get kopete to sign me in. =(
[03:38] <JasperM> FHX : do you got a firewall ?
[03:38] <NPC_Crys> Shout at it.
[03:38] <NPC_Crys> It's just being lazy to aggrevate you.
[03:38] <JasperM> LOL
[03:38] <FHX> No firewall
[03:38] <FHX> i only just got this thing running
[03:38] <FHX> XD
[03:39] <rzei> hmm of what name are xorg dev packages? headers etc needed to build mplayer
[03:40] <rzei> i've got "main", "restricted", "universe" repositories for 5.10 kubuntu but i cannot xorg-dev or something like that
[03:41] <FHX> I can't get the automatix to work
[03:41] <FHX> i'm in konsole and i typed the entire code out
[03:41] <FHX> it says it can't be found..
[03:41] <FHX> or is it still downloading? how do I view odwnloads?
[03:41] <NPC_Crys> I need a mass renamer or something.
[03:42] <FHX> XD
[03:42] <FHX> hey i'm really stuck
[03:42] <NPC_Crys> Seriously. It's easy to put things on an ipod if you've got the itunes, but it doesn't have a function to take things off.
[03:42] <FHX> automatix won't work for me
[03:42] <FHX> I followed the instructions and all
[03:43] <NPC_Crys> I don't even know what that is.
[03:43] <NPC_Crys> Hey thumper.
[03:43] <FHX> it's supposed to help me install open office and all the essentials
[03:43] <FHX> XD
[03:43] <NPC_Crys> I have a friend who goes by that name, but he is hopelessly addicted to windows.
[03:43] <_thumper_> NPC_Crys, hi
[03:44] <_thumper_> NPC_Crys, not your windows friend :)
[03:44] <_thumper_> unfortunately, gotta go again
[03:44] <rzei> oh i needed to get xlibs-dev .. ofc
[03:44] <rzei> and its depends
[03:47] <FHX> oi
[03:47] <FHX> my start menu is gone
[03:47] <FHX> what do i do?
[03:47] <FHX> XD
[03:47] <bbense> hey folks :D
[03:48] <FHX> ok seriously
[03:48] <FHX> it disappeared
[03:48] <FHX> XD
[03:48] <FHX> ok i'm shutting down this laptop
[03:48] <FHX> hopefully i'll return on irc with my new Kubuntu
[03:48] <FHX> =)
[03:48] <FHX> cyou guys
[03:52] <NPC_Crys> cyou
[03:57] <ingrato> hi
[03:58] <ingrato> how do I install kdevelop? it's not shown in Adept
[03:59] <hxkoh> Hello
[04:00] <hxkoh> XD FHX here
[04:00] <hxkoh> I still can't get the thing to recognize my usb devices =/
[04:03] <ingrato> how do I install kdevelop? it's not shown in Adept
[04:05] <hxkoh> How do I get it to recognize my usb devices?
[04:08] <murtun> what is it?
[04:08] <murtun> ok :P
[04:08] <murtun> WHat Packages does Kubuntu use?
[04:08] <murtun> *.deb?
[04:08] <hugelmopf> murtun: yes
[04:09] <murtun> k
[04:09] <murtun> what tool would i use to install?
[04:09] <hugelmopf> ingrato: kdevelop3 is in breezy/main. it should show up in adept.
[04:10] <hugelmopf> murtun: a graphical package manager in kubuntu is "Adept", which you find in the menu under "System"
[04:11] <murtun> great thanx
[04:11] <ingrato> hugelmopf but it's not shown :(
[04:12] <hugelmopf> ingrato: do you have any filters activated?
[04:12] <ingrato> under State Filters, all are seleted
[04:12] <ingrato> selected
[04:13] <hugelmopf> ingrato: sorry, my mistake. it is in the breezy/universe repository, which you probably don't have activated?
[04:13] <ingrato> is breezy/main same as cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10_Breezy Badger_-Release i386 (20051012)]  ? or is that from literally the cdrom
[04:13] <ingrato> it says it's not supported that's why
[04:14] <ingrato> it says ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[04:14] <hugelmopf> that just means, there is no official support for packages in this repository
[04:15] <ingrato> i see, so I enable this and then "Fetch Updates"?
[04:15] <hugelmopf> yes.
[04:15] <apokryphos> ingrato: no, it isn't
[04:15] <apokryphos> (not the same as main)
[04:16] <apokryphos> there's a *lot* more stuff in main =)
[04:16] <ingrato> ahhh, what do I do
[04:17] <ingrato> how do I get kdevelop to show up
[04:18] <hugelmopf> did you fetch updates?
[04:18] <apokryphos> ingrato: what are you trying to do?
[04:19] <ingrato> ok, i right clicked on it, and selected Enable, and now i'm clicking fetch updates
[04:19] <ingrato> apokryphos: install kdevelop, but it doesn't show up in adept
[04:19] <apokryphos> I think it's in Universe
[04:19] <apokryphos> !info kdevelop
[04:20] <apokryphos> ubotu is damn slow these days
[04:20] <ubotu> I don't know, apokryphos
[04:20] <nalioth> no, ubotu's database is slow these days
[04:20] <apokryphos> hm
[04:20] <ingrato> everytime I go back to manage repositories, it shows the breezy/universe disabled, it doesn't stay enabled, why?
[04:20] <apokryphos> ingrato: you didn't click "Apply"?
[04:21] <ingrato> ah
[04:21] <ingrato> now it's downloading from universe
[04:21] <ingrato> and the sources, let me check again
[04:21] <ingrato> there it is !
[04:22] <hugelmopf> :)
[04:23] <javier> buenas
[04:23] <javier> alguno por aqui?
[04:25] <hxkoh> Ello.
[04:26] <hxkoh> Does anyone know if there are kubuntu desktop "skins"?
[04:26] <nalioth> !es
[04:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:28] <ingrato> thanks
[04:32] <apokryphos> nalioth: what's "or" in Spanish? ;-)
[04:32] <nalioth> o
[04:32] <apokryphos> nalioth: so adding "o #kubuntu-es" would be correct?
[04:32] <nalioth> apokryphos: as in maiz o harina
[04:33] <nalioth> apokryphos: si
[04:33] <apokryphos> no entiendo
[04:33] <apokryphos> ok
[04:33] <apokryphos> ubotu: no es is <reply> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:33] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[04:34] <apokryphos> hm
[04:35] <apokryphos> nice
[04:41] <hxkoh> Hm..
[04:41] <hxkoh> amarok won't play my mp3 files
[04:41] <frazer> lo all
[04:41] <hxkoh> Any ideas?
[04:41] <frazer> ah amarok ^^ are U using ALSA sound?
[04:42] <hxkoh> No idea
[04:42] <hxkoh> how to tell?
[04:42] <hxkoh> i only just got kubuntu running an hour back
[04:42] <hxkoh> XD still fudging my way around
[04:42] <apokryphos> !kubuntufaq
[04:42] <ubotu> apokryphos: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:42] <apokryphos> gah
[04:42] <apokryphos> !kubuntu faq is at http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[04:42] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[04:43] <frazer> erm go to system setings
[04:43] <frazer> its on the menue
[04:43] <frazer> sound and multimedia   /  hardware
[04:43] <hxkoh> yup
[04:43] <hxkoh> i'm there
[04:44] <apokryphos> hxkoh: just follow the FAQ
[04:44] <frazer> are you on advanced linux sound acketecture
[04:44] <frazer> lol bad spelling
[04:44] <hxkoh> nope
[04:44] <hxkoh> ok i changed it to that
[04:44] <hxkoh> will it work now?
[04:45] <frazer> try?
[04:45] <apokryphos> the basic kubuntu installation doesn't come with mp3 codecs as they're propietary -- you need to install some thngs from universe to get them working
[04:45] <hxkoh> just did
[04:45] <hxkoh> doesn't work
[04:45] <hxkoh> apokryphos: how do I dot hat?
[04:45] <hxkoh> *do that
[04:45] <frazer> erm im not tottaly sure what i did
[04:45] <apokryphos> hxkoh: as I said, look on the official FAQ
[04:45] <frazer> ill have a check now
[04:45] <apokryphos> frazer: I'm totally sure that wouldn't work :)
[04:45] <frazer> try the faq too
[04:46] <frazer> u have to install some stuff too
[04:46] <hxkoh> ok
[04:46] <frazer> dont give up on amarok anyway cause its a good player
[04:47] <apokryphos> !tell hxkoh about repositories
[04:47] <apokryphos> hxkoh: you'll have to enable those extra repos, and then install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad as it says
[04:47] <hxkoh> ok
[04:47] <hxkoh> hang on, is it possible to increase my partition space?
[04:48] <frazer> ah :) akode-mpeg thats what i forgot
[04:49] <_owner> testing
[04:49] <_owner> 1 2 3
[04:49] <_owner> works?
[04:50] <frazer> oh anyone here have trouble with teamspeak
[04:50] <raffaele> in kubuntu, there are special softwares for the creation of e-music?
[04:50] <_owner> i'm having trouble getting my KDE theme to change
[04:50] <_owner> and opening a BIN file
[04:50] <frazer> I cant get teamspeak to pick up any sound off my mic
[04:50] <_owner> how you open a .BiN?
[04:51] <nalioth> _owner: what type of bin is it?
[04:51] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6229
[04:51] <fit4lfe> can anyone help me out with this error ?
[04:51] <_owner> umm.. limewire.bin
[04:51] <fit4lfe> its from chroot
[04:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _owner about limewire
[04:51] <apokryphos> _owner: install frostwire instead -- there's a deb for it too
[04:52] <_owner> frostwire? ok
[04:52] <apokryphos> !frostwire
[04:52] <ubotu> methinks frostwire is at http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/frostwire_4.9.37-1_i386.deb
[04:52] <nalioth> fit4lfe: does your chroot fail or are you just concerned about the msg?
[04:52] <_owner> i found frostwire
[04:52] <_owner> at frostwire.com
[04:52] <fit4lfe> I have the dir
[04:52] <_owner> also
[04:53] <fit4lfe> but i keep getting locales error
[04:53] <apokryphos> _owner: it's just like Limewire
[04:53] <_owner> if there's a .Bin file, how do you open it?
[04:53] <apokryphos> _owner: you'll need sun-java installed first, though
[04:53] <fit4lfe> and concerned about the msg
[04:53] <_owner> just for next ime
[04:53] <nalioth> _owner: if you read the info ubotu sent you, you'll see
[04:53] <apokryphos> _owner: make sure it's executable (chmod a+x somefile.bin), and then just execute it: ./somefile.bin
[04:54] <fit4lfe> the doc for chroot didn't anything about these errors
[04:54] <_owner> java 2 platform
[04:54] <_owner> or java 2 platform Mirco ?
[04:54] <apokryphos> !javadebs
[04:54] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:54] <apokryphos> there
[04:54] <_owner> thanks
[04:54] <nalioth> fit4lfe: the chroot works, tho?
[04:55] <fit4lfe> how do you know if it works
[04:55] <fit4lfe> with out runnning apps ?
[04:55] <_owner> whats a .Deb?
[04:56] <apokryphos> _owner: a package. Might help if you think of it as an .exe in windoze, though there are some significant differences.
[04:56] <_owner> i'm new to linux, started last night..
[04:56] <nalioth> fit4lfe: we all get those errors
[04:56] <fit4lfe> oh really
[04:56] <hugelmopf> _owner: it is the package format that (k)ubuntu uses for installing software.
[04:56] <_owner> ok thanks
[04:56] <fit4lfe> so how do I start firefox or anyother application
[04:56] <lucas> hey everyone. Just installed kubuntu (5.10) on asus laptop.  KDE loads, but the display is a bit messed up. Windows seem to be displaying arbitrary pieces of memory.  The gfx "card" is nvidia.
[04:56] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: from the menu, or alt+f2 -> programname
[04:56] <_owner> i download it, but it open in  some notepad like program
[04:57] <lucas> I noticed that the xorg config file says to use the 'nv' driver, but lsmod doesn't show that one.
[04:57] <apokryphos> _owner: just download it, then go to where it is in Konqueror, and Right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install
[04:57] <fit4lfe> hmm
[04:57] <lucas> if I try modprobe nv, it says the module isn't found.  I do see ivga16fb module loaded.
[04:57] <apokryphos> why not use nvidia instead?
[04:57] <fit4lfe> how about when running synaptic
[04:57] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[04:57] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:57] <_owner> now what do I do after i download it?
[04:57] <fit4lfe> how do you do that in chroot
[04:58] <apokryphos> _owner: check my last message
[04:58] <_owner> ok
[04:58] <nalioth> fit4lfe: i suspect you should stick to CLI things in a chroot
[04:59] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: you might want to install and use dchroot. it will let you easily run a chroot-application from your main system.
[04:59] <fit4lfe> I have dchroot installed too
[05:00] <hugelmopf> well, you should be able to change into the chroot with "dchroot -d" and then run any program?
[05:00] <lucas> ubotu: thnx. I was hoping not to having to use binary drivers, but if the native ones don't work I guess I'll give it a go.
[05:00] <ubotu> lucas: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:00] <hugelmopf> lucas: it is a bot.
[05:00] <elynch> hi...q about live cd
[05:00] <_owner> can't find it in kubuntu package menu
[05:01] <fit4lfe> how do you know if you have 32 bit chroot ?
[05:01] <hugelmopf> _owner: right-click on the .deb you downloaded and you should have the kubuntu package menu
[05:01] <lucas> hugelmopf: thnx, he got me.
[05:01] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: you have to know which chroot you installed.
[05:02] <elynch> downloaded kubuntu livecd...got an iso image file...unzip before burning to cd?
[05:02] <hugelmopf> elynch: no, your burning program should be able to burn a CD from an ISO image.
[05:02] <elynch> so, just burn the iso file to cd?
[05:02] <fit4lfe> sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:02] <fit4lfe>  sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[05:02] <nalioth> elynch: nope. if it ends with .iso, your burning software will know what to do with it
[05:02] <hugelmopf> elynch: no.
[05:02] <fit4lfe> this one
[05:02] <federico> hello everybody ... which command should I use to check my hard drives for errors, after an outage for example?
[05:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell elynch about verify
[05:03] <fit4lfe> ok so i installed firefox in chroot
[05:03] <elynch> brb..sorry
[05:03] <fit4lfe> now I should be able to call firefox and it should work right
[05:03] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: right, if you call firefox from within the chroot, that you entered with "dchroot -d"
[05:04] <fit4lfe> firefox-bin:7263): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[05:04] <fit4lfe>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[05:04] <fit4lfe> (firefox-bin:7263): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:04] <fit4lfe> this is what I get
[05:04] <nalioth> fit4lfe: EVERYONE gets that, ignore it
[05:04] <fit4lfe> lol ok so how do I run it then
[05:04] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: does firefox not start even though this message appears?
[05:05] <fit4lfe> correct
[05:05] <frazer> _owner if you diddnt get it installed get the file with firefox and save as somwhere you know how to find just paste the link into the address bar
[05:05] <fit4lfe> do I need to shut off my 64 bit one instead ?
[05:05] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: and you entered the chroot by "dchroot -d" as your normal user?
[05:05] <fit4lfe> I did this
[05:06] <fit4lfe> /var/chroot/
[05:06] <fit4lfe> sorry chroot /var/chroot/
[05:06] <fit4lfe> now I am in root
[05:06] <fit4lfe> correct
[05:06] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: go back to your initial system, not the chroot and use "dchroot -d" to enter the chroot, instead of "chroot /var/chroot"
[05:06] <fit4lfe> k
[05:07] <fit4lfe> damn I got an error in the conf file
[05:07] <hugelmopf> then you should be able to start firefox or whatever
[05:07] <hugelmopf> ok, then look into  /etc/dchroot.conf  and edit it to what you have
[05:08] <fit4lfe> the chroot doc says to put this in
[05:08] <fit4lfe> hoary/chroot
[05:10] <hugelmopf> it should contain one line like "name_of_chroot /path/to/chroot"
[05:10] <hugelmopf> where name_of_chroot is arbitrary
[05:10] <hugelmopf> you should have read the chroot information.
[05:10] <hugelmopf> !chroot
[05:10] <ubotu> I heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:12] <hxkoh> I can't locate KDE control center, help please?
[05:12] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: note that there is a space between the name and the path of the chroot.
[05:13] <hugelmopf> hxkoh: either you use the somewhat trimmed "System Settings" in the menu or Alt-F2 -- "kcontrol"
[05:13] <_owner> anyone know how to setup xifce the desktop/Ev. on (K)?
[05:14] <hxkoh> hugelmopf: XD thanks
[05:14] <_owner> or I mean xife
[05:14] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: and you might not want to use the older "hoary" for your chroot, but "breezy" instead.
[05:14] <_owner> *Xife Desktop/Ev.
[05:15] <fit4lfe> damn how do I do that
[05:15] <fit4lfe> so I have to start all over again then
[05:15] <hxkoh> Hm..is there a way to increase my kubuntu partition from 9gb to 40?
[05:16] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: you are using the "32-bit chroot how-to"-thread, right=
[05:16] <hugelmopf> ?
[05:16] <fit4lfe> yeah
[05:16] <fit4lfe> this one
[05:16] <nalioth> hxkoh: free up some space on your HD and turn it into ext3 and mount it into your filesystem
[05:16] <fit4lfe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[05:16] <_owner> so nobody knows how to setup xife Desktop/Ev. for kubuntu?
[05:17] <hxkoh> nalioth: I have all the free space, how do I turn it into ext3 and mount it into my filesystem?
[05:17] <nalioth> hxkoh: i'd use gparted to turn it into ext3
[05:18] <Cheetah> can somebody suggest a good image browser/collection manager, like iPhoto on Mac OS X?
[05:18] <fit4lfe> Invalid input line /etc/dchroot.conf:12
[05:18] <fit4lfe> dchroot: Error reading config file '/etc/dchroot.conf'.  this is what I get
[05:18] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: i would follow this how-to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 and replace "hoary" with "breezy" everywhere
[05:19] <fit4lfe> this is what I put mychroot /var/chroot
[05:19] <nalioth> Cheetah: gphoto ?
[05:19] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: as i wrote above, you have to edit your /etc/dchroot.conf and add a space between the name and path
[05:19] <hxkoh> nalioth: Okay, I'll keep that in mind thanks. Do you also know where I can find a guide to installing all the things I need to get it running?
[05:19] <hxkoh> for example I can't play mp3 files
[05:19] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: is that the only line in there?
[05:19] <nalioth> hxkoh: help.ubuntu.com will lead to many answers
[05:20] <_owner> http://www.xfce.org/index.php
[05:20] <Cheetah> nalioth: it works on KDE without any GNOME libs?
[05:20] <fit4lfe> sudo editor /etc/dchroot.conf
[05:20] <fit4lfe> Append this line
[05:20] <fit4lfe>  mychroot /var/chroot
[05:20] <_owner> http://www.xfce.org/index.php can some body help me get this desktop/Evi plz? =[
[05:20] <nalioth> Cheetah: i'm not sure of any apps like you asked about, there are literally dozens that do something approximate
[05:21] <hugelmopf> _owner: maybe they can: #xubuntu
[05:21] <Cheetah> okay
[05:21] <Cheetah> thanks
[05:21] <EricCartman> preinstallation script of .deb package fails, how can I debug this ?
[05:31] <chino[server] > wtf is the root password ?
[05:32] <nalioth> chino[server] : there is no root account, use kdesu for gui and sudo for console apps with your user passworkd
[05:33] <fit4lfe> sweet finally
[05:33] <fit4lfe> got it to work
[05:34] <fit4lfe> thx for all the help everyone
[05:34] <chino[server] > nalioth: there is no root ????
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chino[server]  about sudo
[05:34] <nalioth> chino[server] : read the URL on the wiki, please
[05:34] <chino[server] > thats so dumb
[05:34] <chino[server] > your inviting bad habits into linux
[05:34] <fit4lfe> !wine
[05:35] <chino[server] > i can hear the viruses teething as we speak
[05:35] <nalioth> chino[server] : the ubuntu devs thought long and hard. read the wiki before you proceed
[05:37] <hxkoh> Could someone help me out with gparting?
[05:37] <_mike> !repositories
[05:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:37] <hxkoh> how do I install it?
[05:38] <nalioth> hxkoh: run qtparted by typing alt-f2 > kdesu qtparted
[05:39] <hxkoh> nalioth: Thanks
[05:39] <hxkoh> i'll try that
[05:40] <_mike> why is the sources repositories commented off
[05:40] <_mike> in that /6047 list
[05:43] <hxkoh> noliaIt tells me qtparted is not found
[05:43] <hxkoh> *it tells me
[05:44] <_owner> i still dont know how to run a .BiN
[05:44] <apokryphos> _owner: I told you ages ago
[05:44] <_owner> =P
[05:44] <apokryphos> make sure it's executable (chmod a+x somefile.bin), and then just execute it: ./somefile.bin
[05:45] <_owner> ok thanks
[05:45] <hxkoh> is it possible to install qtparted through synapsis?
[05:45] <apokryphos> synaptic, yes
[05:45] <hxkoh> ah ok, i'm still a little rough around the names
[05:45] <hxkoh> XD
[05:46] <chino[server] > i think you turned admin group into something like windows administration group
[05:46] <chino[server] > i think its asking for trouble
[05:46] <nalioth> hxkoh: if you are running kubuntu, you should have qtparted
[05:46] <nalioth> chino[server] : we have done nothing, we are just volunteers
[05:47] <chino[server] > yea but allowing a admin group with rights to do wahtever it wants to the box whast the point of that ?
[05:47] <hxkoh> nalioth: It is ubuntu, but I don't have it.
[05:47] <hxkoh> *kubuntu
[05:47] <fit4lfe> !dchroot
[05:47] <ubotu> fit4lfe: What?
[05:47] <hxkoh> which is why I was sking everyone earlier for help on how to obtain the installations I needed
[05:47] <fit4lfe> !chroot
[05:47] <ubotu> [chroot]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:48] <hxkoh> I can't find qtparted in adept
[05:49] <nalioth> hxkoh: you are confusing me by being in #kubuntu
[05:49] <hxkoh> nalioth: ...??
[05:49] <nalioth> hxkoh: use gparted       alt-f2 > gksudo gparted
[05:49] <nalioth> hxkoh: this is #kubuntu for kde users
[05:59] <hxkoh> I don't have gparted.
[06:01] <Spudchat> hi guys...i just installed skype and its working great but when i apt-get upgrade it wants to install a new version
[06:01] <nalioth> hxkoh: you should. it's default in ubuntu
[06:01] <Spudchat> the problem is that when it does i can no longer connect
[06:01] <Tm_T> JakubS: heh
[06:01] <nalioth> Spudchat: pin it
[06:01] <JakubS> Tm_T: hm?
[06:01] <Spudchat> im sorry i dont get it
[06:02] <nalioth> !pinning
[06:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, pinning is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[06:02] <Tm_T> JakubS: ...ok, I have no idea what that was =)
[06:02] <nalioth> Spudchat: you need to tell your system you want to keep that pkg
[06:02] <nalioth> Spudchat: see the URL above
[06:03] <Tm_T> :)
[06:03] <Spudchat> thanks a lot nalioth
[06:03] <hxkoh> nalioth: I know that's what has me worried. I don't have it.
[06:03] <hxkoh> i hit alt+f2, then i go kdesu qtparted
[06:03] <hxkoh> in the end it tells me i don't have it
[06:05] <nalioth> hxkoh: qtparted is default in kubuntu, not ubuntu
[06:07] <rzei> how do i install lame (mp3 encoder) into kubuntu 5.10?
[06:07] <_thumper_> rzei, it's in the repositories
[06:08] <hxkoh> I know it's default in kubuntu, that's the one II have.
[06:08] <hxkoh> I don't have ubuntu if that's what you mean.
[06:08] <nalioth> rzei: use adept
[06:09] <hxkoh> ok so this is the point: i don't have qtparted even if it is default usually. So, how do I fix this? where can I get it?
[06:09] <nalioth> hxkoh: then install qtparted
[06:09] <rzei> _thumper_: hmm in which? i have all the repositories uncommented
[06:10] <_thumper_> rzei, my adept says multiverse
[06:10] <nalioth> rzei: use adept to search
[06:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rzei about repos
[06:10] <rzei> yeah i didn't have multiverse
[06:11] <hxkoh> nalioth: It's not listed in adept.
[06:11] <_thumper_> rzei, multiverse ain't supported, that's way not in default list
[06:11] <nalioth> hxkoh: then you have to enable universe and multiverse
[06:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hxkoh about repos
[06:15] <Spudchat> how would i find out what version of a package is installed on my system?
[06:15] <apokryphos> ubotu: no repos is <reply> see repositories
[06:15] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[06:15] <hxkoh> noliath: The links to the guides for multiverse and universe are for Ubuntu
[06:16] <hxkoh> there are no repositories for Adept..
[06:16] <nalioth> hxkoh: ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are the same thing.
[06:16] <hxkoh> o.o
[06:16] <hxkoh> so i have a whole thing missing?
[06:16] <fit4lfe> Executing shell in 'breezy' chroot.
[06:16] <fit4lfe> dchroot: chdir: No such file or directory
[06:16] <hxkoh> according to the guide i should have the repositories option, but i don't.
[06:16] <nalioth> hxkoh: they all use the same repos
[06:16] <fit4lfe> I am following this guide
[06:16] <fit4lfe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:17] <hxkoh> nalioth: I go to settings and repos is supposed to be there..it's not.
[06:17] <nalioth> hxkoh: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[06:17] <hxkoh> ..how?
[06:17] <apokryphos> or follow the guide ont he wiki
[06:18] <apokryphos> ...to do it through adept
[06:18] <hugelmopf> fit4lfe: see pm.
[06:23] <hxkoh> ok i'm following the guide but i'm stuck here where it says: Add "multiverse" into the Components section of all repositories which mentioned "universe".
[06:24] <hxkoh> how do I add multiverse into the components section?
[06:24] <apokryphos> !repos
[06:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:24] <apokryphos> hxkoh: check the wiki link
[06:24] <hxkoh> yeah that's where I am
[06:24] <hugelmopf> hxkoh: but scroll down to the kubuntu section
[06:25] <hxkoh> yeah i did that
[06:25] <hxkoh> i'm stuck where it says : Add "multiverse" into the Components section of all repositories which mentioned "universe".
[06:25] <hxkoh> no idea how to do that.
[06:25] <apokryphos> follow the screeny ;-)
[06:25] <hugelmopf> as apokryphos said, check http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto  (the Kubuntu section)
[06:26] <hxkoh> i type it in??
[06:26] <hxkoh> but it doesnt' stay
[06:26] <hxkoh> it just reverts back to what the text originally said
[06:26] <apokryphos> hit Apply
[06:27] <apokryphos> (well, after you're editing it press <enter> of course first)
[06:27] <apokryphos> then go for Apply
[06:28] <hxkoh> ok that works
[06:28] <hxkoh> but which ones do I add multiverse to? it says to look for those that mention universe, where do I look for this mentioning of universe?
[06:28] <apokryphos> obviously in the "Components" column
[06:28] <apokryphos> use the screenies, really
[06:30] <`Nomad> !ksmoothdock
[06:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, `Nomad
[06:30] <apokryphos> `Nomad: not in repos, unfortunately.
[06:30] <hxkoh> so the ones that say universe I change to main restricted universe multiverse?
[06:31] <apokryphos> kxdocker is there, but nalioth assures me that ksmoothdock is better ;-)
[06:31] <apokryphos> hxkoh: yes
[06:31] <nalioth> apokryphos: only the svn version
[06:31] <apokryphos> oh
[06:31] <nalioth> apokryphos: you know we're all 7445 h@X0rz
[06:31] <Spudchat> thanks for the help
[06:31] <Spudchat> the "pin" was succesful
[06:32] <Tm_T> :)
[06:32] <hxkoh> ok done that, now it says to fetch updates but the fetch updates button is unclickable
[06:32] <nalioth> we're so 7335 we can't even spell it
[06:32] <`Nomad> ksmoothdock is.. :)  I can't seem to figure out how to configure kxdocker properly
[06:33] <apokryphos> hxkoh: huh?
[06:33] <apokryphos> have you hit Apply and Close?
[06:33] <hxkoh> yes, i hit apply and close
[06:33] <hxkoh> still unclickable.
[06:34] <apokryphos> hxkoh: I find that hard to believe, but anyway: close adept and type sudo apt-get update
[06:35] <hxkoh> wait just todouble check, all the ones that said one word, universe, I changed to four words, main restricted universe multiverse?
[06:35] <hxkoh> that's what I did..
[06:35] <apokryphos> hxkoh: no... you should just have added multiverse
[06:36] <hxkoh> ok i've just changed it, so now all the universe ones say universe multiverse
[06:36] <hxkoh> and still no fetch updates
[06:37] <apokryphos> hxkoh: ok, so close and enter that command
[06:38] <hxkoh> alt+f2 + command?
[06:38] <apokryphos> hxkoh: nope, konsole -> command
[06:39] <hxkoh> it asks for a pw..
[06:39] <hxkoh> which i wouldn't mind typing if it werent blocked.
[06:40] <apokryphos> hxkoh: user password
[06:40] <hxkoh> i know
[06:40] <hxkoh> it's not letting me type
[06:40] <hxkoh> I'm typing it, no words appear
[06:40] <apokryphos> yes, that's a security feature
[06:40] <apokryphos> just type the pass and press enter
[06:40] <hxkoh> ah okay, works fine now
[06:40] <apokryphos> (konsole still takes in the characters that you type)
[06:40] <hxkoh> yeah I was a bit lost there.
[06:41] <hxkoh> alright what should I do now?
[06:41] <hxkoh> W: GPG error: signatures invalid etc.
[06:41] <apokryphos> hxkoh: can you pastebin the output then?
[06:42] <apokryphos> hxkoh: maybe also pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list to clarify
[06:44] <FHX> hang on how do you pastebin?
[06:45] <nem> http://pastebin.com/
[06:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about gpgerr
[06:48] <FHX> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:48] <FHX> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:48] <FHX> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:48] <FHX> that?
[06:49] <nalioth> FHX: please dont paste (read the /topic)
[06:49] <FHX> ok sorry
[06:49] <FHX> meh. I'm lost.
[06:53] <mmHg> can anyone help me with a network configuration/wireless issue?
[06:53] <mmHg> can't enable any interface through kcontrol
[06:53] <mmHg> won't detect open wireless network
[06:53] <mmHg> but works fine with another computer
[06:56] <FHX> XD i'm giving up for hte day. I'll be back tomorrowwith some sleep in me to back me up.
[06:56] <FHX> Thanks everyone.
[07:02] <sander> mmHg: What's the problem? You can't detect anything or you can't change it?
[07:02] <davide> hi all, i've just installed Kubuntu, i'm on the 7th heaven :D
[07:05] <mmHg> sander: can't detect any network, although I'm on it with a different system
[07:06] <sander> What tools are you using to configure your wireless?
[07:07] <mmHg> well, first I tried kcontrol's network settings
[07:07] <mmHg> that didn't work
[07:08] <sander> Is Kwifimanager installed?
[07:08] <sander> Under Internet.
[07:08] <mmHg> yes
[07:08] <mmHg> tried that too.  doesn't detect on either wifi0 or wlan0 (although there's only one card installed)
[07:09] <owner> i need help opening frostwire
[07:09] <owner> can anyone help me?
[07:09] <owner> it says "No directory"
[07:10] <mmHg> this is a new kubuntu install - straight off the cd.  The install cd couldn't get through the dhcp sequence - I'm thinking a hardware issue?
[07:10] <sander> mmHg: Are you familiar with the iwconfig command? You can use it in a terminal window.
[07:11] <mmHg> just found out about it thanks to google, but I don't know how to work it
[07:11] <sander> sudo iwconfig
[07:11] <mmHg> yes - got that far
[07:12] <sander> for starters. That will tell you which interfaces have wireless extensions.
[07:12] <mmHg> wifi0 and wlan0.
[07:12] <mmHg> both eth0  and lo don't have them
[07:12] <sander> Then (I think) sudo iwconfig wifi0 essid any
[07:13] <mmHg> SET failed on device wifi0; Invalid argument
[07:14] <mmHg> Error for wireless request "set ESSID" (8B1A)
[07:14] <sander> how about with wlan0
[07:14] <Burgwork> do any programs in Kubuntu default to the arts backend?
[07:14] <mmHg> sander: same thing
[07:14] <sander> hmm, is network-manager installed?
[07:15] <mmHg> sander: where would I find it?
[07:16] <sander> try typing network and tab complete to see if it's installed.
[07:16] <mmHg> nothing in the CLI or in Run
[07:16] <mmHg> don't think it's installed
[07:17] <lucas> does anybody know how I can update kubuntu's alsa to 1.0.10 required for my soundcard? Do I have to compile from sources?
[07:17] <mmHg> command not found
[07:20] <sander> mmHg: In the past I've had to manually specify the name of the wireless network such and then run dhclient on that interface to get an ip address. Do you know the name of the network?
[07:20] <mmHg> sander: linksys
[07:20] <mmHg> but it won't let me use that as an essid either
[07:20] <mmHg> same error - invalid arguement
[07:21] <sander> are you typing iwconfig or sudo iwconfig?
[07:21] <mmHg> sudo
[07:22] <mmHg> well.. it gave me an error, but looks like it changed it anyway
[07:22] <sander> hmm
[07:22] <mmHg> so let's try this dhclient thing
[07:23] <mmHg> wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[07:23] <mmHg> receive packet failed - network is down
[07:23] <mmHg> same thing for wlan0
[07:24] <sander> if you type iwconfig do you see a real mac address for the gateway?
[07:24] <mmHg> I dont see a MAC on either interface
[07:25] <mmHg> sander: the only thing with a mac addr is eth0
[07:25] <sander> I don't have an wireless interface to test with, but usually the iwconfig spits out a mac address of the gateway.
[07:26] <mmHg> nothing on here
[07:26] <mmHg> I don't recall setting up a gateway, however....
[07:26] <mmHg> is one enabled by default?
[07:28] <sander> Hmm, I'm sorry and I have to go, but one last piece of info, The state of the interfaces is in a file called /etc/network/interfaces I would try to get to a wired network and apt-get network-manager and give it a try. Good luck.
[07:28] <mmHg> thanks
[07:38] <_julien> salut
[07:38] <_julien> j'ai la fonction de transparence des fenetres qui rame  mort sous kde
[07:39] <nalioth> !fr
[07:39] <_julien> c'est un gadget d'accord, mais c'est le genre de gadget que j'aime
[07:39] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:39] <_julien> Sorry !!
[07:40] <slow-motion> bbl
[07:40] <nalioth> no problems, there are no french speakers here that i know of
[07:54] <_lamp> does anyone know how i can transfer my mails in evolution to kcontact
[07:55] <nalioth> _lamp: if they are txt files, it should be as simple as making sure the formats are the same
[07:56] <_lamp> i was hoping for a tool, i changing to kde
[08:02] <chx> hi. what's the preferred way to use gnutella under kubuntu? I googled.
[08:04] <nalioth> chx: use it like you use it anywhere else
[08:05] <chx> nalioth: er, which client? :)
[08:06] <nalioth> gtk-gnutella
[08:06] <chx> ok
[08:06] <nalioth> or frostwire
[08:07] <chx> E: Couldn't find package frostwire
[08:07] <chx> gtk-gnutella .. do I need a server list or what?
[08:07] <nalioth> no, frostwire is new
[08:07] <nalioth> it is a totally free port of limewire
[08:07] <chx> that'd be great ...
[08:14] <hyperactivecrond> where does one download the dapper cds?
[08:14] <crimsun> only two milestone snapshots are available, Flight 1 and 2
[08:14] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <hyperactivecrond> thx nalioth
[08:15] <crimsun> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html
[08:15] <hyperactivecrond> how stable is flight 2
[08:15] <freemanen> how do you get code completion i kdevelop?
[08:15] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: it's not.
[08:15] <hyperactivecrond> like will i be able to get x onit?
[08:16] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: dapper is in a constant state of developement. x is not yet stable
[08:16] <hyperactivecrond> .... ok thx nalioth
[08:17] <FHX> x.x I'm awake again.
[08:17] <FHX> how do I install stuff that are .tar.gz?
[08:18] <nalioth> FHX: you have to build them
[08:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about compile
[08:19] <FHX> Thanks
[08:21] <MrJangles> hello
[08:21] <FHX> does adept happen to mess with konsole?
[08:22] <pussfeller> if yer using a package manager the files will be locked, if thats what yer getting at
[08:22] <pussfeller> so if adept is open, apt-get anything wont work
[08:22] <FHX> darn ok. no wonder.
[08:22] <FHX> I opened konsole and no matter what i do it won't work.
[08:24] <nalioth> FHX: you can only use one instance of apt at a time
[08:25] <nalioth> FHX: close adept and try again in konsole
[08:25] <MrJangles> i updated to breeze and X wont start up
[08:26] <MrJangles> failed to start X server
[08:26] <MrJangles> any ideas?
[08:27] <MrJangles> libGLcore.a "no symbols found"
[08:28] <MrJangles> join #ubuntu
[08:28] <FHX> Hm.i'll wait until adept finishes, it's doing openoffice for the second time, something hapepned just now.
[08:38] <`Nomad> !samsung
[08:38] <ubotu> `Nomad: What?
[08:38] <`Nomad> !printer
[08:38] <ubotu> methinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[08:39] <slow-motion> re
[08:47] <`Nomad> Trying to install a new Samsung printer on Kubuntu.  using their installation CD (ML-2010) it bogs down when it asks for admin login.. I gave root a password but it keeps saying authentication failed.
[08:48] <`Nomad> the 2010 is not in the list of printer drivers, but it seems to work fine with ML-1710
[08:48] <`Nomad> can anyone enlighten me on this please?
[08:59] <yahaa_swe> Hi! As a newbie I wonder if it's possible to update all my installed programs in a simple and fast way?
[08:59] <Hans44> sudo apt-get update
[09:00] <Hans44> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:00] <yahaa_swe> both?
[09:00] <Hans44> in console
[09:00] <Hans44> yep
[09:00] <yahaa_swe> Ok thx!
[09:00] <Hans44> youre welcome
[09:01] <Hans44> anybody using a realtek hda intel soundcard ??
[09:01] <ilred> hi to all
[09:01] <Hans44> hi
[09:01] <ilred> i've some problems with kaffeine and divx
[09:01] <ilred> iuse breezy and fglrx
[09:01] <Hans44> tell us?
[09:02] <Hans44> and ?
[09:02] <Hans44> problem ?
[09:02] <ilred> so, i've installed gstreamer but when i open a divx with any output video i've problems
[09:03] <ilred> so, i've installed xine too but i 'va slow video
[09:04] <yahaa_swe> ilred: try VLC 'cause it's superior when it comes to divx and xvid etc
[09:04] <Hans44> did you install gstreamer0.8-xvid ?
[09:04] <Hans44> its for divx support
[09:04] <ilred> following ubuntu guide i've installed all gstreamer plugins then "gst-register-0.8" but nothing
[09:05] <anir> hello
[09:05] <ilred> can fglrx be the problem?
[09:05] <anir> can anyone tell what is the location of grub menu list????
[09:06] <Hans44> i dont know but did you install gstreamer0.8-xvid it for divx support gstreamer plugins is for mostly audio codes support
[09:06] <Hans44>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:06] <ilred> my ploblmes are on video
[09:06] <Hans44> yes i know
[09:07] <Hans44> divx is a video format
[09:07] <daedad> hi all
[09:07] <anir> Hans44: so if i wanna edit the command is.. sudo gedit /boot.... right
[09:07] <Hans44> did you install the package       gstreamer0.8-xvid
[09:07] <deemo> Hey everyone, I have a question about VNC and kubuntu. Through adept, i got the vnc packages I need, however the vncserver binary isnt included. How do I start VNC without it?
[09:07] <daedad> i have a problem with 5.10 afer installation.... the boot is freexe on HOT plug
[09:07] <Hans44> hans44 sudo -s  dusopassword
[09:07] <Hans44> hans44 cd /boot/grub
[09:08] <Hans44> gedit menu.lst
[09:08] <anir> ok
[09:08] <daedad> anyone have installed the ATI X700 on kubuntu?
[09:08] <yahaa_swe> !ati
[09:08] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:09] <daedad> thanks
[09:09] <daedad> I have installed the 5.10 and after instaleld.... is bloccked on [Hotplug configuration] 
[09:09] <daedad> anyone have the same?
[09:09] <anir> Hans44: thank you
[09:10] <Hans44> anit youre welcome
[09:10] <Hans44> anit youre welcom
[09:10] <Hans44> omg
[09:10] <Hans44> cannot type anymore ;)
[09:10] <ilred> ok, with ati module for xorg (no fglrx) and gstreamer-xvid only audio
[09:10] <ilred> hans
[09:10] <Hans44> ?
[09:10] <Hans44> what distro are you using ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[09:10] <ilred> which output i must use?
[09:10] <ilred> kubuntu
[09:11] <Hans44> ok
[09:11] <daedad> Kuunbu 5.10
[09:11] <ilred> now i use xvimagesink
[09:11] <Hans44> open adept
[09:11] <Hans44> and check for the package gstreamer0.8-xvid
[09:11] <ilred> synaptic it's the same?
[09:11] <Hans44> check if it is installed
[09:11] <Hans44> yes
[09:11] <Hans44> the you are using ubuntu
[09:11] <ilred> yes
[09:12] <delltony> hi
[09:12] <ilred> gstreamer0.8-xvid version 0.8.11-ubuntu1
[09:12] <Hans44> installed ?
[09:12] <Hans44> yes or no ?
[09:12] <Hans44> hi delltony
[09:12] <delltony> can some please take the time to help me figure out how to resize my linux partition so i can give windows a some of the space?
[09:13] <ilred> installed
[09:13] <delltony> i put in the live cd and went to terminal but there is no gparted there
[09:13] <delltony> so i'm lost
[09:13] <Hans44> #ilred and divx not working ?
[09:13] <delltony> i need the fool proof dummie version i guess
[09:13] <Hans44> #ilred with kaffeine
[09:13] <ilred> now, wih ximagesink i hear audio but no video
[09:14] <Hans44> #ilred mmm
[09:14] <delltony> anyone know if there is a tivo desktop for linux?
[09:14] <Hans44> #ilred strange
[09:14] <ilred> yes
[09:14] <ilred> right
[09:14] <deemo> Hey everyone, I have a question about VNC and kubuntu. Through adept, i got the vnc packages I need, however the vncserver binary isnt included. How do I start VNC without it?
[09:15] <Hans44> #ilred what gstreamer engine are you using ?
[09:15] <Hans44> #ilred its under settings in kaffeine
[09:16] <ilred> default is xvimagesink
[09:16] <ilred> but with ximagesinkit's the same
[09:16] <Hans44> #deemo why vnc ? why dont u use krfb
[09:17] <delltony> anyone know?
[09:17] <deemo> hans44, does krfb have a server?
[09:17] <deemo> hans44, i would like to be able to access it at any time from any computer
[09:18] <Hans44> #ilred why server you share youre desktop and can access it anytime anywhere ?
[09:18] <Hans44> #ilred vnc is really insecure
[09:18] <ilred> Hans44, ?
[09:18] <ilred> deemo?
[09:19] <deemo> hans44, the main reason is that, from what i see, for krfb you need to be able to sit down, create the invitation, and then log in somewhere else
[09:19] <deemo> hans44, or am I wrong in this assumption
[09:20] <Hans44> #ilred you can use it as a service within your network
[09:20] <treke> I can't see krfb being all that much more secure. it's the same protocol
[09:20] <Hans44> ilred klik on settings and youll see
[09:21] <Hans44> treke ok youre right it is vnc
[09:22] <Hans44> treke my mistake
[09:22] <Hans44> treke i dont use vnc
[09:22] <Hans44> treke i use ssh
[09:22] <Hans44> treke ;)
[09:23] <deemo> hans44 thanks, i got krfb setr up for invitations
[09:23] <deemo> hans44 i mean without invitations
[09:24] <Hans44> deemo yep youre welcome
[09:25] <Hans44> anybody using the snd-hda-intel module with a realtek intel hda soundcard ???
[09:26] <crimsun> I have one being shipped to me, why?
[09:27] <HeartBT> Alright, not kubuntu related, but.. reseat memory, reseat cpu, remove all other components will not boot, or boots and freezes.  all components tested working in another system.  MB?
[09:27] <Hans44> it isnt working as it should be
[09:27] <HeartBT> just looking for another opinion b4 I drop $300 on a new MB
[09:28] <Hans44> crimsun i have only sound in 1 programm
[09:28] <nem> HeartBT: freezes where?
[09:28] <Hans44> crimsun ??
[09:28] <crimsun> Hans44: and?
[09:29] <crimsun> that chipset only supports 1 sound at once
[09:29] <crimsun> you have to use dmix
[09:29] <Hans44> crimsun i would like to use for games also at the same time
[09:29] <HeartBT> nem, varies.  in memtest86+ before it gets to memory section.  In diagnostic disk various places, or even at boot menu.
[09:29] <crimsun> Hans44: games generally use OSS's /dev/dsp, which block any other apps from accessing the sound device
[09:29] <HeartBT> nem, sometimes powers up, and sits.  no post.
[09:29] <Hans44> crimsun never used dmix can you tell me how to use ?
[09:29] <crimsun> Hans44: in rare cases the games can be used with aoss (install 'alsa-oss')
[09:29] <yahaa_swe> HeartBT. Have you tried to reflash the BIOS?
[09:30] <nem> HeartBT, yea, sounds like MB though that's virtually impossible to guarantee. But I can't think of anything else with that description either.
[09:30] <HeartBT> yahaa_swe, yes.  current version fresh flash today.
[09:30] <crimsun> Hans44: dmix is generally enabled by default for most cards
[09:30] <Hans44> crimsun do i have to tell the game to use alsa-oss ?
[09:30] <crimsun> Hans44: yes, aoss foo
[09:30] <Hans44> crimsun aoss foo gamecommand ?
[09:31] <crimsun> Hans44: "foo" is a placeholder for the game executable and any additional arguments that need to be passed
[09:31] <Hans44> crimsun ok ill try that
[09:31] <Hans44> crimsun thx so far
[09:33] <HeartBT> OK, well if you all don't have anything else, and niether do I, guess I'm shopping for a MB.  thanks, I appreciate it.
[09:33] <Hans44> crimsun received signall 11 exiting ???
[09:33] <Hans44> crimsun doesnt work sry
[09:33] <Remmy> Hi all, I installed kubuntu 5.1, but chose to delay the network configuration till later. Now I want to get my ADSL going, how can I easily do this now?
[09:33] <yahaa_swe> HeartBt: Also try to ask the geeks in #ubuntu before you do so
[09:34] <crimsun> Hans44: what game?
[09:34] <Hans44> crimsun wolfenstein enemy-territory
[09:34] <HeartBT> yahaa_swe, I think I'm pretty convinced it's shot.  but I may ask there as well.
[09:35] <yahaa_swe> HeartBT: Good luck in any case!
[09:35] <HeartBT> yahaa_swe, thanks!
[09:36] <nem> Remmy: pppoeconf should do the trick
[09:37] <crimsun> Hans44: those generally don't work with aoss
[09:37] <Hans44> crimsun ok ;(
[09:37] <crimsun> Hans44: you can try the et.x86 direct parameters (see dmix under alsa.opensrc.org)
[09:38] <Hans44> crimsun ok have a look at it
[09:39] <Remmy> nem:Even when mine uses pptp ?
[09:39] <nem> Remmy, don't know :) been a while since I used DSL without a router and even then I always had pppoe. Sorry.
[09:40] <Remmy> nem: No worries.. .thanks anyways :)
[09:42] <nem> Remmy: package pptp-linux and pptpd look like a starting point though. if no one else got more info. you should ask in #ubuntu as well as this is not strictly kubuntu related.
[09:44] <_pablo> #kubuntu-es
[09:44] <_pablo> como me meto en el canal espaol?
[09:44] <Remmy> nem: Ok,will do... thanks again :)
[10:09] <nem> !ubotu
[10:09] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:12] <nem> !tell nem about es
[10:21] <yan> hello
[10:21] <yan> anyone alive?:)
[10:21] <yahaa_swe> hi yan
[10:22] <yan> hello
[10:22] <yan> i have a problem in synaptic
[10:22] <yahaa_swe> go ahead
[10:22] <yan> it doesnt make search, id finds nothing
[10:22] <yan> id=it*
[10:23] <yan> what shouls I do?
[10:23] <yan> should*
[10:23] <yan> :S
[10:24] <yan> ok another problem:))
[10:24] <yahaa_swe> yan, I think u should try to ask in the more active #ubuntu channel
[10:25] <yan> I have dual Boot: ubuntu [with kde]  and Windows XP, How can I do that the Ubuntu will see my ntfs hard disk
[10:25] <yan> mm.. OK ill try 10x
[10:29] <owner> i need help getting Xfce desktop/Evi, can anyone help me?
[10:31] <hugelmopf> owner: have you tried #xubuntu ?
[10:31] <owner> i don't know how to get on the channel..
[10:31] <owner> nvm
[10:31] <owner> i did
[10:35] <libben> when will sources get hitted by new blender?
[10:36] <hyperactivecrond> !kde3.5
[10:36] <nalioth> libben: probably in dapper
[10:36] <ubotu> I heard kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[10:36] <libben> what?
[10:37] <libben> how come.
[10:37] <libben> why isnt it upgraded! =)
[10:41] <_pierre> hi there
[10:42] <_pierre> please i'm in trouble with a fresh install of kubuntu ...
[10:42] <_pierre> when i plug an external usb HD
[10:42] <_pierre> i've a message of error fromkonqueror
[10:42] <_pierre> with media:/sda1
[10:42] <_pierre> any hint please ... i'm new to linux
[10:47] <xtacocorex> _pierre: in the konqueror address type /media and see if there is a directory called usbdisk
[10:53] <lucas> does anybody know the most comfortable way to upgrade my alsa in kubuntu (5.10) to 1.0.10?   Do I have to compile from source, or can I use a package somewhere?
[10:54] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 fakeroot && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[10:55] <crimsun> answer "yes" to the first two questions, then deselect "all" and choose your specific driver.
[10:55] <lucas> crimsun: thnx. goint to try that one by one :)
[10:55] <crimsun> also, sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[10:55] <crimsun> after you've done those steps, you can: sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[10:57] <crimsun> what sound chipset are you using?
[10:59] <lucas> my sound chipset is realtek... have to look it up.
[11:00] <crimsun> you're using snd-hda-intel
[11:00] <crimsun> (I presume)
[11:00] <lucas> I found a thread this morning with someone with the exact same problem as me, and it is supposed to be fixed in 1.0.10
[11:00] <lucas> yes, but modprobing snd-hda-intel gives a kernel panic
[11:00] <crimsun> yes, that's the issue.
[11:00] <lucas> ehm, no thats not true.
[11:00] <lucas> I think it just hangs forever.
[11:00] <crimsun> it either spins in the kernel trying to enumerate the mixer elements or oops because it clobbers a register
[11:00] <lucas> kubuntu even failed to install because of it, as hotplug freezes while it tries to load snd-hda-intel
[11:00] <crimsun> I debugged this.
[11:01] <lucas> straigh to the source :), lucky me.
[11:01] <crimsun> if you blacklisted snd-hda-intel, be sure to remove it from the blacklist after module-assistant runs
[11:01] <crimsun> then you can: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[11:02] <lucas> right, good catch.
[11:02] <crimsun> anyhow, I'm off for a tick.
[11:02] <lucas> everything is taking a while, this is my first non gentoo distro...   I am only now finding out what parts belonged to linux and what parts belonged to gentoo
[11:02] <lucas> thnx
[11:06] <Knowerrors> Whats best program/way to backup my root partition to a dvd?
[11:09] <kalenedrael> Just burn the files using your favorite DVD burning program.
[11:10] <sophie_> Knowerrors: how much data r u trying to backup
[11:10] <sophie_> Knowerrors: more than 4.3 G
[11:10] <Knowerrors> no, about 4G
[11:12] <sophie_> just use k3b and no compression
[11:15] <Knowerrors> sophie_: should I make a disc image of root, and then burn that?
[11:15] <sophie_> Knowerrors: k3b will do the job for you just drag and drop your home dir into the bottom pane
[11:16] <Knowerrors> not home, I want to back up root
[11:16] <mac__> anyone know where in Kubuntu a laptop's volume up/down keys are bound?  I thought it was in kmiker, but no,they were set toNone... and when I set them there some other app/util still intercepts the keystrokes...
[11:18] <[Zeusz] > hello
[11:19] <[Zeusz] > I have a problem with the KDE sound system.Only one program can use the sound card.And it gets blocked a lot
[11:19] <[Zeusz] > Can't it be solved that more programs to use it at the same time?
[11:22] <[Zeusz] > I use ALSA
[11:22] <mac__> I imagine it might depend on whether the audio card itself supports HW mixing (of multiple sound sources)... else you could always use "artsd", no?
[11:23] <nem> Zeusz, are you using snd-hda-intel?
[11:23] <[Zeusz] > I'm not sure
[11:23] <`Nomad> Hi all. Is there a way to update th elist of printers for installtion?
[11:23] <[Zeusz] > it's a realtec
[11:24] <[Zeusz] > on my motherboard
[11:24] <[Zeusz] > Well it works under windows
[11:24] <nem> Zeusz, try sudo lsmod and pastebin me the ouput (see channel topic for pastebin)
[11:26] <sophie_> 3332222  /QUIT
[11:26] <[Zeusz] > ok
[11:26] <[Zeusz] > I'm done
[11:27] <yahaa_swe> If I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use?
[11:28] <nem> Zeusz, url?
[11:29] <[Zeusz] > http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/480802
[11:29] <nem> yahaa_swe, do you mean recompile or downloading a compiled kernel with apt?
[11:30] <yahaa_swe> download compiled with apt
[11:31] <nem> yahaa_swe, it will be available as a seperate item in your grub menu
[11:32] <Knowerrors> If I move my /home to another partition, what do I need to edit to tell ubuntu where to look for it? just fstab? or is this very involved?
[11:32] <yahaa_swe> ok, anyway to remove the old one?
[11:32] <nem> Zeusz, I'm 99% sure you're problem will be solved by using the latest alsa, but that's not available precompiled yet. there was a conversation about this here just a few minutes ago though, i'll pastebin it to you, hope it helps.
[11:32] <[Zeusz] > ok
[11:32] <[Zeusz] > 10x
[11:34] <nem> Zeusz, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/480815
[11:35] <nem> yahaa_swe, edit the grub menu and delete the respective kernel image from your /boot (but double check that you remove the one belonging to the removed grub entry ;))
[11:35] <[Zeusz] > ok thank you
[11:35] <[Zeusz] > have a good night
[11:38] <nem> yahha_Swe, e.g. if your old kernel is 2.6.12-9 and the new one is 2.6.12-10, delete the files containing "2.6.12-9" in the /boot dir and alter the /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.
[11:43] <`Nomad> Hi.. Could someone help me with installing a Samsung Printer driver in Kubuntu, KDE 3.5?  I'm missing a simple permission issue with CUPS I think
[11:43] <`Nomad> but I can't figure it out
[11:45] <nem> `Nomad, just ask the actual question
[11:46] <`Nomad> I have a Samsung ML-2010 that comes with it's own drivers..  Using their install, I get prompted for an admin password while trying to add the printer.. I can't get that authentication accepted to continue.
[11:46] <`Nomad> I gave root a password, and also to cupsys which is what cupsd runs under
[11:47] <`Nomad> but when I try those as teh admin names and password I get rejected
[11:48] <nem> `Nomad, sorry, not familiar with samsung. maybe someone else is or you could try #ubuntu, doesn't sound like a very kde specific problem to me.
[11:48] <`Nomad> Seems like a CUPS authentication problem to me
[11:50] <`Nomad> I wish I could make out what the printer drivers are on teh CD and use them directly.. The printer works fine if I do a regular install and use an older model of Samsung printer, but I woudl like to use the multiple-pages per sheet feature which will come with the right drivers
[11:51] <nem> `Nomad, but CUPS ain't limited to KDE... it's used with gnome as well :)
[11:52] <`Nomad> yes, ok..  But I'm in teh Kubuntu channel, not just KDE either :)
[11:53] <`Nomad> and I just pasted same Q to ubuntu
[11:53] <`Nomad> :)
[11:55] <nem> `Nomad, i understand, but #ubuntu is much busier and any question not specific to kde is welcome there as well. hope it helps.
[11:56] <nalioth> you can ask kde questions there, too. but they'll send you to this channel
[11:57] <`Nomad> nem: ok, thanks :)  I learned about kdesu instead of just sudo..
[12:03] <nalioth> `Nomad: lots of us are in lots of channels
[12:06] <`Nomad> I still think it's more of a kubuntu related issue.. I gave root a password, and allowed root logins by editing that file under /etc/kde3/...kderc