=== richard1001 [n=richard@host86-142-61-136.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === richard1001 is now known as richard === richard is now known as richard1001 === hugelmopf [n=frank@p54B3845C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] whats a good temperature indicator for cpu temp in kubuntu? [12:11] is it possible to have a control+h command for KDE that will minimize all the windows for an app? [12:12] fr: there's ksensors and ktemperature, I believe [12:14] Im starting to get tierd on this crap, what the h*ll should i do to get VLC play the wmv streaming file (mms://), and yes i have installed the w32codecs ???????????? [12:14] re [12:14] maybe gstreamer-mad ? [12:15] yea thanks apokryphos, man apt-get is nice and quick :) [12:15] I followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar. Any ideas? [12:15] not sure, but i think vlc uses gstreamer... [correct me if i'm wrong] [12:15] vlc uses statically linked libmad directly. [12:16] oh... [12:16] it'd be interesting to convert it to gstreamer0.10, but I think we'll see tremendous resistance since gstreamer isn't available on all the platforms that vlc supports [12:16] yeah, vlc is somewhat special === d4ft [n=d4ft@68-119-204-151.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] also, i'm cursing gstreamer everytime i want to install something [12:17] my apt-get is broken... :( [12:18] Forza: did you try it in #ubuntu ? === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has left #kubuntu ["http://www.pensament.net/java/"] [12:19] manveru, yes i did [12:20] oh :| [12:20] you know, i've no idea how to help you... and i'm tired to death... [12:20] but i bet that google knows a bit more than me [12:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88920.html [12:21] appearently for totem, but vlc seems to be mentioned [12:23] manveru; thx but i dont have the energy to do all that, it's sad that nothing seems to work smooth in linux... [12:23] Forza: well... i, for one have working wmv... tho i never used vlc === skypa [n=skypa@d463c231.datahighways.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] at least i think it works... cannot remeber a video that didn't play === gerardcb_away is back. === gerardcb_away is now known as gerardocb [12:25] When I connect to my wireless network, my localhost seems to disapear. === Svennglenn [i=danielno@ua-83-227-227-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] I run dhclient to connect [12:26] Jippi! Tomtem error: "Totem could not startup. No reason." [12:26] And then ping 127.0.0.1 doesn't work === krille [n=krille@c-0a41e055.117-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] Forza: being sarcastic damages your health [12:27] good night, everyone === krille is now known as _krille [12:27] <_krille> Hi ! [12:28] <_krille> how are everybody ? [12:29] <_krille> good night, everyone ! === Svennglenn [i=danielno@ua-83-227-227-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu [] === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] who uses kubuntu on a laptop? How can the kded be stop from preloading entire CDs, but still mount them automatically? [12:32] is it the /usr/share/services/kded/mediamanager.desktop ? === gerold [n=gerold@p54B27838.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === omie [n=omie@70.151.21.241] has joined #kubuntu === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DCBB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] leaf, that file has an entry 'X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true' I guess if you change true to false and reboot it will stop autoloading and still mount [12:38] Gotta be worth a try [12:38] well, sounds good [12:39] just which one should be false, the autoload or the load-on-demand? [12:39] or both === crimsun [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] load-on-demand is false now. [12:39] autoload I guess === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-236.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] no need to boot, the services are controlable from the System Settings === nekostar [n=nekostar@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #kubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu === andre is now known as andre^off [12:43] didn't help, kded is still bugging around [12:43] and stalling the computer === stefano [n=stefano@i538796BC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] maybe you need to set X-KDE-Kded-load-on-demand=false [12:44] it is false [12:44] maybe it's the konqy preloader ? [12:44] kded runs lots of things [12:45] hum no, it's set to load-on-demand true only. === stefano [n=stefano@i538796BC.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _thumper_ is now known as _thumper_away_ [12:48] I wonder if it's actually reread the new configuration [12:48] all I did was to restart the daemon from the System Services [12:49] That should have done it [12:49] I agree === carl [n=carl@68-114-42-111.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === cfh_dev [n=carl@68-114-42-111.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === cfh_dev [n=carl@68-114-42-111.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] I don't see it (kded) in system services - but I see two instances in the process table [12:54] in the system services it is in the lower right, in services [12:54] I have a ppc breezy, it shows mac-style [12:54] I've posted a question in kubuntuforums.net [12:54] let's see what happens [12:54] gotta go === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === jose [n=jose@c-24-0-40-252.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === jose is now known as kub === kub is now known as kub-01 === d4ft [n=d4ft@68-119-204-151.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === len [n=len@cc521807-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-24-90-132-254.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Flixor- [n=Flixor@ip5457002f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu === len [n=len@cc521807-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mst [n=mst@v213-078.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu === randabis [n=randabis@cpe-24-167-43-245.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@81-171-23-222.dsl.fiberworld.nl] has joined #kubuntu === wotnarg [n=wotnarg@dsl-63-173-190-10.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu === cfh_dev [n=carl@68-114-42-111.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === teviken [n=teviken@216-140-155.0101.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #kubuntu === _ryan [n=ryan@dynamic-216-211-53-144.tbaytel.net] has joined #kubuntu === _ryan is now known as Vilim === _oscar [n=oscar@213.37.238.26] has joined #kubuntu === mora [n=mora@p54801DE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Forza [n=martin@h111n1c1o1032.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === os2mac [n=jim@ip68-10-71-214.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] did updates, sound no workie... [01:30] sound card is recognized, levels are up, mute is off... but no sound. [01:30] any ideas? [01:31] Does programs i uninstall leave any traces in Linux? [01:32] yes, the config files are around still [01:32] if you just uninstall, then yes Forza [01:32] unless you use the purge option [01:32] use the --purge option in apt-get to remove them [01:32] apokryphos: ;) [01:33] no help avail for me then? [01:36] os2mac: made sure that line jack sense and headphone jack sense are muted? [01:39] Aint there any way to get the Package Manager in Kubuntu to uninstall them completely without leaving any traces behind 'cause i don't like working through the console? [01:39] not to sound like an ass... but how do I do that? throught the sound mixer [01:40] ...and is there any program that cleans up old traces?? [01:41] Someone plz? === desti [n=desti@p50920271.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] install synaptic [01:42] its way better than the kubuntu one :D [01:42] Hobbsee? [01:43] nekostar, does it also fix old traces?? [01:43] you might have to install a package then tell it to purge it but should [01:43] say i had gaim and waneted to kill EVERYTHING i could do that or um [01:44] apt-get remove --purge gaim === nekostar shrugs [01:44] but there is an option in synaptic to purge :) === apokryphos nods [01:44] im sorry i just dont know the kde manager well [01:44] I think it calls it "Complete Removal" [01:44] nalioth, might know [01:44] yeah thats the one apokryphos i think :) [01:44] there isn't one [01:45] isn't one what [01:45] adept i think its called [01:45] might know what? [01:45] there isn't a purge option in adept [01:45] Sad there isn't such a program as CCleaner to Linux aswell [01:45] about using a gui package monitor in kubuntu to purge packages>? === nekostar only knows about the synaptic one tbh [01:45] adept needs some work to catch up to synaptic, tis true [01:46] Why doesn't Kubuntu use Synaptic as default then?? [01:46] is there any failings with using synaptic in kubuntu nalioth ? [01:47] besides some extra packages to support it? [01:47] there isn't [01:47] kaw [01:47] kay ** [01:47] b/k i know you cant sudo kate for instance :P [01:48] nekostar: no, but you can kdesu kate === bam_ [n=bam@pool-71-108-67-15.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] if you are in KDE, you should use kdesu, at the CLI, use sudo [01:49] o: [01:49] kde su [01:49] lol [01:49] i prefer a root pw and doing things as root but im cwazyt [01:49] yes you are [01:49] :) [01:50] even the wiki says you are asking for trouble === nekostar shrugs [01:50] root was made for a reason :) [01:50] no === dutch [n=james@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:50] no need whatsoever in ubuntu [01:50] debian either [01:50] ~_^ [01:50] nekostar: none at all [01:50] nekostar: just use kdesu to start it [01:51] I administer 3 boxes and never use root [01:51] neway :P [01:51] sudo is the superior model [01:51] er [01:51] ubuntu on a box? [01:51] at a DC? [01:51] anyone set up kubuntu for a bluetooth PAN? [01:51] in fact, its preferred, more safe and more secure [01:51] . . . === martman [n=martman@cpe-69-202-159-15.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] Ok so I have installed Synaptic, but there is still one problem, how do I get rid of the old traces beside delete them manually? [01:53] i cant seem to mount my 2nd hard drive as a normal user [01:53] eh [01:53] is the package in your system atm Forza ? [01:53] if not install it [01:53] i created a new decide on the desktop and edited my fstab [01:53] (added users to the options) [01:53] then select it again for COMPLETE removal [01:53] Forza: old traces of that? you can use aptitude and search for ~c [01:53] but still get "could not enter" [01:53] Forza: then use _ to purge it === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p54855A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] nekostar, i dont remeber all the programs i have had installed [01:54] heh [01:54] lets back up [01:54] what does it do [01:54] and why are you erasing the traces [01:56] 'cause im want a clean system [01:56] dpkg --list | grep '^.c' [01:56] eh [01:56] then apt-get remove --purge whichever packages it lists [01:56] there's a package that goes with deborphan [01:56] .. [01:56] gimme sec === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #KUbuntu ["Konversation] [01:57] debfoster [01:57] yeah [01:57] thats the one :) === obsrv [n=obsrv@77-18-149.elekta.lt] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] I cant browse FTP with Krusader. It says that "ftp protocol is not supported with Krusader" [01:58] What can I do? [01:58] obsrv, use konqueror? [01:58] does debfoster detect removed but still configured packages? [01:59] doesn't look like it when i run it [02:00] dunno [02:00] look if its a user config just look for the thing in /home/username [02:00] :D === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] otherwise dont worry about the remains unless its messing with a new package [02:00] I want to use Krusader [02:01] like I always do [02:01] but in KUbuntu I cant [02:01] or just do what i suggest and use aptitude or grep to search for them [02:01] obsrv: why krusader? [02:01] because I got used to it [02:01] I always use it for these things [02:01] ftp, local browsing [02:02] Konqueror is the way! [02:02] aptitude is installed somewhere, cant find any icon to it though, how do I do to start it with the console? [02:02] krusader is just a duplication of effort, really [02:02] Forza: aptitude is CLI [02:02] duplication of effort? [02:03] yes [02:03] I find, personally, that krusader is much more reliable apokryphos :) [02:03] how to understand? [02:03] i keep getting "unable to enter" and "you do not havce access rights to this location" when i try and mount a partion [02:03] i edited the fstab file [02:03] konqeror as a file manager is very slow, and has problems deleting files [02:03] obsrv: I consider it pretty much obsolete, with Konq being around, personally. [02:03] and chmod a+rw it [02:03] kkathman: never experienced severe problems [02:03] (with crashing or otherwise) [02:03] apokryphos: Im sorry to disagree, but I much prefer krusader [02:03] konq now is a 2-panel fm? [02:03] kkathman: what problem? [02:04] apokryphos: deleting files especially [02:04] kkathman: yeah, what's the problem [02:04] apokryphos: select 3 or 4, then click delete...it pops open that dialog, and takes 45seconds to 1 minute to delete === james_ [n=james@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] the firefox flash plugin uses a crazy amount of CPU time on this page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/ === james_ is now known as dutch [02:04] on a side note, I thought krusader supported all the same kioslaves as Konq [02:05] kkathman: it transfers them to trash, that's why. If you don't want to it to, then shift+delete [02:05] no [02:06] Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces 2? [02:06] it shouldnt take it THAT long to transfer tho === bam_ [n=bam@pool-71-108-67-15.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] apokryphos: krusader does have the option to delete or shred, also [02:06] kkathman: cancel that, I see no lag even when transferring to trash (haven't done *That* in a while). Just did 10 and it does it instantly here [02:06] dialogue doesn't even have time to come up [02:07] apokryphos: then Im open as to some setting on my computer that needs tweaking [02:07] obsrv: worth checking to see if fish:// works in krusader -- use just like ftp:/ [02:07] kkathman: does this happen with big files, or just many files? [02:07] this is a persistent problem [02:07] though 5 files isn't really "many" [02:08] apokryphos: it doesnt matter if its one or 5 or 10 [02:08] I'd say there's definitely a problem there then [02:08] right..I agree, ideas? [02:08] my disk isnt even 50% full === martman [n=martman@cpe-69-202-159-15.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:09] and krusader deletes them immediately [02:09] no lag whatsoever [02:09] thinking about it, a plain transfer to trash is just an mv -- doesn't change the file's actual location on the disk, so it should always be pretty much instant [02:09] kkathman: I don't really know what could cause that. I'd say compile a bug report === seth_k_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] perhaps mention that it works fine on mv/krusader etc [02:10] I guess it wouldnt be a bug if its not repeatable tho, apokryphos === brendan__ [n=brendan@pool-64-222-148-64.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] kkathman: reproducable. Well, it is for you. === seth_k_ is now known as seth_k|lappy [02:11] apokryphos: in konq isnt it just doing an mv from point A to ~/.local/share/.Trash [02:11] *nod* [02:11] er Trash [02:11] well, yeah [02:11] Trash:/, specifically === jkop [n=jkop@M337P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] I can easily do an mv at the CLI and its instantaneous [02:12] yup === jkop [n=jkop@M337P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:12] so thats why it SEEMS to be in Konq [02:12] even a cp shouldn't take a minute, though, of course [02:12] right [02:12] kkathman: bugs.kde.org it is, I'd say [02:13] Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces 2? === apokryphos detects paranoia :P === gurumeditationer [n=gud@82-40-113-113.cable.ubr02.dumb.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] apokryphos, u got me but nevertheless i would like an answer :) [02:15] if you purge, then it removes the config files [02:15] Hi room, has anyone got a link to a 64bit faq that answers questions on getting w32codecs working on amd64 kubuntu 5.10? [02:16] if someone wanted to check your terminal log, they could find out what you've been up to though ;-) [02:16] gurumeditationer: can't, without a 32-bit chroot. Hence the w32 ;-) [02:17] in fedora core I could uninstall libxine x86-64 and install the i386 one and then the codecs would work [02:17] xine can still play pretty much most things [02:17] (including some wmvs) [02:19] VLC + Mplayer isn't bad either [02:19] I'm gonna have to solve this problem for flash anyhow === apokryphos prefers kaffeine above all others [02:19] no flash on 64-bit [02:19] (not even for Windoze) [02:19] yeah, but I could use firefox 32bit with the flash [02:19] (on fc) [02:19] apokryphos, can u stream wmv3 files with kaffeine? [02:19] you'd need to have a 32-bit chroot [02:20] can anyone help with a amarok issue? [02:20] Forza: no idea [02:20] is there a good guide on going about this? [02:20] bam_: no-one can if you don't mention it ;-) [02:20] !chroot [02:20] chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 [02:20] lo;l [02:20] cheers dude [02:20] GStreamer-ERROR **: file gstelement.c: line 2993 (gst_element_change_state): assertion failed: (time >= element->base_time) [02:20] aborting... [02:20] keep getting this, any ideas? [02:21] dont think so, i had a hard time to get any player to play some streaming pr0n in wmv3 excepr for Mplayer [02:21] bam_: no idea, but I always use xine engine on amarok [02:21] hmmm i will try [02:21] Forza: solution: forget streams! [02:22] apokryphos, streams are sometimes handy... [02:23] And it did work finally with Mplayer [02:23] perfecto! === guillermo [n=guillerm@240-26.dedicado.com.uy] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] What's the main reason u guys uses Linux? === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p54855A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] faster than windows === zozvozozo [n=zozvozoz@wsip-24-249-159-102.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] more tweakable too [02:34] Forza, i don't like stealing software and I can't afford to buy all the microsoft products [02:35] Forza, less suceptable to viruses [02:35] then dont look at my 2nd hdd [02:35] bobbyd same reason as me then [02:35] i'm new to kubuntu. have a problem i'm sure will annoy someone. :) [02:35] Forza, I don't want to owe anyone anything, I contribute to the projects I use, but I don't want to be forced to pay for something that doesn't fit my needs [02:36] zozvozozo, just ask... [02:36] zozvozozo, or, dataja [02:36] just don't understand why glibc is not readily available. [02:36] so how do I make xine the default dvd player? [02:37] is it not possible to just download and install glibc via Adept? [02:38] zozvozozo, that question will get more answers in #ubuntu as it's not Kubuntu specific... [02:38] zozvozozo, why do you need it? [02:39] well, could not get Midnight Commander that way either, so in trying to build it, it needs it and i assumed it'd be there, it is not. === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p54855A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] zozvozozo, midnight commander is in the 'universe' repository [02:42] zozvozozo, and to get glibc you install libc-dev [02:42] rofsmx [02:42] apt-get build-dep whatever === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] Hmm, I wonder why some swedish letters is messed up in filenames I download to my computer but not in files I create locally [02:44] Forza: using ftp? [02:45] nope [02:45] the same apply to files i copy from cds [02:46] zozvozozo, you would probably be best doing "apt-get build-essential" [02:46] cd's have some weird and stupid hack to handle non-ascii filenames === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] sproingie, yeah but I don't know why it does the same to files i download? === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p54855A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.88.196] has joined #kubuntu === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:49] It's really annoying 'cause i can't open some files with . and in their names 'cause of it [02:49] could be whatever you're downloading with doing some kind of translation [02:49] you using unicode? [02:51] rather iso 8859-1 === dutch [n=james@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:52] but when i browse one of those files with the special letters i can set the charset to everything except iso 8859-1 === gpo [n=gpo@vfc69-1-82-233-45-250.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] couldn't tell you off the top of my head why it's doing that [02:57] try a different transfer method, like ssh [02:57] er scp === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === devpotato [n=ksmith@cpe-065-190-165-091.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Macke [i=KarnaK@c-5a6fe455.54-0015-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] what is the requirements for kubuntu with KDE?? [03:05] i mean PC specs [03:13] Macke: what do you have ? [03:15] Macke: I run it on a powerbook. [03:16] requirements are quite low. === `Nomad [n=Nomad@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:19] <`Nomad> I need help.. I updated to KDE 3.5, and no whave everything up to date. But, kicker keeps disapearing.. I can,t get it to stay [03:20] i have a 233Mhz laptop === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has left #kubuntu ["http://www.pensament.net/java/"] === xtacocorex [n=xtacocor@65-101-172-191.desm.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] !xubuntu [03:27] xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [03:27] Macke: perhaps you'd get more speed from the above === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === gerardocb [n=gcontrer@148.233.33.113] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu === MassiveBurger [n=chatzill@ppp-67-39-179-12.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === thazza [n=thazza@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe39df00-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === duende [n=duende@stjhnf0122w-142162051177.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === bam_ [n=bam@pool-71-108-67-15.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === kalenedrael [i=6866-ide@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ojpitre [n=ojpitre@ip216-239-75-220.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu === sol [n=sol@CPE000d88862e46-CM001225d749de.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === `Nomad [n=Nomad@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === robotgeek_away is now known as robotgeek === _user [n=user@cpe-24-175-88-128.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === thazza [n=thazza@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Going,] === Knowerrors [n=stormsur@dialup-4.246.30.128.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] !dma === guest_ [n=guest@litdonofrio.lsait.lsa.umich.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] need to get multimointor support...how? === guest_ is now known as lewis [04:44] what is the hw-detect command === _chris [n=chris@c-24-20-253-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:45] <_chris> has anyone installed X11R7.0 on breezy yet? [04:45] _chris: it will not appear on breezy at all [04:46] <_chris> so source huh [04:46] <_chris> im not sure I'm willing to try that on my work system :) [04:47] _chris: 7.0 will be in dapper [04:47] <_chris> nalioth, how stable is dapper at this point? [04:48] not very, atm === fdelacruz [n=fdelacru@222.126.113.36] has joined #kubuntu === Keegan_Witt [n=keeganwi@oh-69-68-51-102.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #kubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.223.241] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.107] has joined #kubuntu === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek_away === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@58.69.27.210] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === crimsun [i=nobody@warped.bluecherry.net] has joined #kubuntu === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.88.196] has joined #kubuntu === karvr [n=karvr@ppp-216-106-100-138.storm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === xtacocorex is away: sleep [05:51] how can i get a 2.6.13 kernel without compiling it manually [05:51] You don't. [05:52] You compile it manually :P [05:52] or how can i make sure its set up the way ubuntu wants it [05:52] You can compile any kernel you want, Ubuntu won't mind. [05:52] in theory [05:52] In practice. [05:52] I'm running kernel 2.6.13. [05:52] theres like a gazillion things to check tho [05:53] A gazillion what? [05:53] all that stuff in qtconfig [05:53] I just make menuconfig, make, make modules_install, make install === kimgg [n=kimgg@218.48.32.148] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] it builds all the stuff as modules taht need to be modules, and all the stuff that needs to be in the kernel itself that way too? [05:54] like ext3 support and all taht [05:54] Well, you should look through it and select what you need and what you don't need. [05:55] thats what I am trying to avoid :) [05:55] i was thinking, put dapper in my sources, get that kernel only, and then return to breezy and reboot [05:56] Ok, well, you can copy the config. [05:56] ah hah [05:56] zcat /proc/config.gz [05:57] (if it exists, which it should) [05:57] i can diff them and see what new stuff is in 2.6.13 [05:57] and paste it or patch it [05:57] Dapper's 2.6.15 depends on a lot of infrastructure than isn't in Breezy [05:58] it's generally not a problem if you avoid using modules; otherwise you'll have a difficult time with the udev New World Order in Breezy [05:58] (since, well, the udev isn't new enough in Breezy) [05:58] thtas why I didnt do it :) [05:59] crimsun: you think they will release a 2/6/13 kernel anytime soon? [06:00] pussfeller: for Breezy? No. Nothing new save security fixes (generally). [06:00] ok [06:00] our 2.6.12 is already more 2.6.13 than it is 2.6.12. === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@CPE-65-25-229-62.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth is now known as nalioth_zZz === _sara [n=sara@S0106000b6ae2fb77.wk.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:21] <_sara> hello [06:21] <_sara> can anyone tell me how to install a .sh file.. im in terminal as root and in the right folder/.... === zozvozozo [n=zozvozoz@wsip-24-249-159-102.tu.ok.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:27] sh files are scripts [06:27] to run one, "sh file" [06:27] or chmod +x file, then ./file, if yer in the dir === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-58-243.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] how are file associations set in kde? Like to open a .mp3 with amarok, for example... === _sara [n=sara@S0106000b6ae2fb77.wk.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] <_sara> hi [06:34] hey [06:34] <_sara> anyone up? [06:34] <_sara> cool [06:34] <_sara> can u help me install a .sh file.... im in the right directory and im root [06:35] <_sara> but i cant remeber the command [06:35] _sara: use sudo rather. but...to install a blah.sh file, you run "chmod +x blah.sh && ./blah.sh". Do you know the file is safe? [06:35] !rootsudo [06:35] hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [06:36] <_sara> yes [06:37] <_sara> so the command is chmod +x audiokonvertor.sh ? [06:37] ok, then substitute blah in my sentence for the real name of the file, and run that. === _geno [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3577893.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:37] chmod +x allows the .sh file to be executable [06:38] ./ is for the shell to know that the file is in this directory you are in, and not somewhere on your $PATH which is where the shell normally looks for commands when you type one in. [06:38] is it only canadian people in here or what? [06:39] <_sara> the file is called install .sh [06:39] <_sara> when i type chmod +x install.sh it goes to the next line but shows no error or anything.. did it do it? [06:39] _sara: copy and paste this into the terminal then with no parenthesys "chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh". [06:40] I think it did do it. === skypa [n=skypa@d463c231.datahighways.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] <_sara> Installation cancelled. [06:40] <_sara> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [06:40] <_sara> Xlib: No protocol specified [06:40] <_sara> kdialog: cannot connect to X server :0.0 [06:41] _sara: this is in a terminal inside your desktop, or in a console(alt+ctrl+f1 for examople is a console) [06:42] <_sara> konsole === jkauzlar [n=jkauzlar@dsl231-056-093.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] ya, most likely, especially if that is the output you get from running ./install.sh === jkauzlar [n=jkauzlar@dsl231-056-093.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:42] <_sara> im trying basicsally to convert m4a music files to mp3 is why im trying to install the .sh file [06:43] what are you installing anyhow? [06:43] <_sara> auduokonvertor [06:44] !info audiokonvertor [06:44] <_sara> i was hoping i could use k3b but no [06:44] audio, right? [06:45] !info audiokonverter [06:46] <_sara> from m4a format to mp3 === tron_ [n=tron@201.247.186.114] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] ya, did you run this as root? try not as root, just ./install.sh === tron_ [n=tron@201.247.186.114] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:48] <_sara> ok i'll try [06:49] does anyone know why after correctly following QT's INSTALL file instructions, I get an error claiming there is no make file when i attempt to run the "configure" script? I thought the make file was created by "configure". [06:50] post the install file to pastebin [06:50] !pastebin [06:50] extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org === fr [n=fr@bgp989053bgs.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nekostar [n=nekostar@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #kubuntu === jrjxx [i=jrj@65.118.74.56] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd305237.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu === _geno [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3577893.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _geno is now known as Elsan_ === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu === thazza [n=thazza@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === mainuser [n=mainuser@user-0ce2gje.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === mac__ [n=mac@CPE00e018f474ec-CM024420003961.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:28] how can I get bitmap fonts (e.g., helvetica, terminus) to be available in KDE apps, such as konsole? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === thazza [n=thazza@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Going,] === wotnarg [n=wotnarg@dsl-63-173-190-10.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu === jkauzlar [n=jkauzlar@dsl231-056-093.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === jkauzlar [n=jkauzlar@dsl231-056-093.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === delltony [n=delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] hi anyone arouund? [07:39] hi [07:39] hi [07:39] quite possibly [07:39] hey anyoen good with partions ? reason i ask is gparted hates me [07:40] i need to give windoze about 10 more gig from my linux part [07:40] but i can't get it to resize :( [07:41] why wont it resize? [07:41] thats what id like to know [07:42] its grayed out [07:42] you can't resize active parts, for one [07:42] you need ntfsprogs to touch NTFS, for two [07:42] oh [07:43] so basically i need to use partmagic on the windows part? === sheldon [n=sheldon@d207-216-1-48.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:43] or fdisk, isnt it? the linux one? [07:43] only reason and i do mean only reason i'm even using windows is cause i got a tivo and it has this tivo desktop thiing [07:44] what kills me though is tivo runs total linux [07:44] why it can't make a tivo desktop for linux is beyond me === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #kubuntu [07:45] well thanks i'm going to go play with part magic === robotgeek_away is now known as robotgeek === sankar [n=sankarsh@202-149-56-110.exatt.net] has joined #kubuntu === kkrizka [n=kkrizka@d206-116-1-46.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek_away === anny [n=anny@176.138-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-58-243.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@cpe-70-113-102-4.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as scotttt === Shachaf [n=Shachaf@line133-191.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #kubuntu === SLBKBS [n=Shachaf@line133-191.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #kubuntu === drynish [n=drynish@Toronto-HSE-ppp3741271.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Steven_M [i=AthIRC@210-246-63-59.paradise.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] hi all\ === slicslak [n=slick@wbs-196-2-107-227.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@D8570.d.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === ggilbert [n=ggilbert@69-175-35-85.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ggilbert is now known as treke [08:46] I just installed gnone on my kubuntu distro, but gnome is not shown in my session type menu. How do I get into gnome? === lieex [n=lieex@222.92.109.226] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=snake@adsl-65-43-155-102.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === _rick [n=rick@203.91.89.248.rev.eftel.com] has joined #kubuntu === faked [n=faked@83-65-250-22.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === gintas [n=gintas@85.206.68.126] has joined #kubuntu === ..[topic/#kubuntu:gintas] : Merry Christmas! [09:10] gintas: ? [09:10] why'd you do that? [09:10] soryry === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Hobbsee] : Merry Christmas! | Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat === Hentai^XP [n=Justin@202.131.162.37.cmts2.guam.net] has joined #kubuntu === frazer [n=frazer@spr1-stre2-3-0-cust57.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === frazer is now known as Frazer === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:12] :) Konversation is a nice IRC client [09:12] it is [09:13] irssi's also nice, if you're in a console-y mood [09:13] I use irssi [09:13] kvirc's apparently also nice [09:13] not used it though [09:14] iv not tried either [09:14] kkathman uses it, and likes it [09:14]