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[06:28] isnt it LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32:/usr/lib32:/usr/X11R6/lib32.... [06:30] thanks Lathiat: I'm over-tired today and doing typos in my rules files [06:37] Lathiat: that didn't seem to work. I got a FTBFS again because it tried to use the library in /usr/lib rather then /usr/lib32 :( [06:38] ./configure needs it in LDFLAGS [06:41] crimsun: thank you. I need a few working test cases for my ia32-libs-universe package [06:43] my guess is anything game-related [06:45] so what exactly is in ia32-libs? [06:54] sorry guys - had to leave. My daughter jumped off the dining table trying to fly and I needed to administer first aid :( [06:55] sounds like me some 20 years ago. [06:55] re: ia32-linbs-universe: currently sdl packages to get some games working, and I plan to put in whatever is needed to get wine going [06:56] crimsun, so you'd be about 22 then ? [06:56] my initial test cases are deng (not yet in ubuntu) zsnes and wine. Feel free to suggest others [06:57] Yagisan: +4 [06:58] speaking of wine, are we going to merge it from Sid? [07:00] crimsun: I don't know, the winehq guys have popped out either 0.9.3 or 0.9.4 now in their repo [07:00] crimsun: IIRC ubuntu uses their package [07:00] those are supposed to be less stable than 0.9 [07:01] according to Scott, who was fairly active in getting Hoary's wine up to speed [07:01] crimsun: to be honest, I have had regressions in every wine release after hoary shipped [07:02] hmm. [07:02] crimsun: I mainly use it for gpl apps that are Win only, or 1 or 2 games I have form '95 [07:02] crimsun: but some people need it, so I'd like to see it running on amd64 [07:03] crimsun: I figured I could get some package magic working until real multiarch is done [07:04] you probably want to coordinate with Tollef and Jeff on that, then [07:04] I hear there are going to be some nasties in Dapper+1 [07:06] oh ? I figured it would be a simple case of adding some extra 32bit libs and some patches to rules and control to get this band-aid working [07:07] the band-aid will suffice for Dapper, probably, but it won't work for Dapper+1 [07:07] they have a much better idea of the transition than I do, though [07:08] crimsun: ok. I hope to have it ready for dapper. I'd rather not keep it around after dapper, as I'd prefer true multi-arch [07:10] crimsun: I already had siretart volunteer to test packages when ready, are you also interested ? [07:11] Yagisan: I don't have an amd64 desktop, only a pbuilder some 3000 km away === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd305237.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] crimsun: santa didn't get you one ? that's ok. santa didn't get me my ppc system for christmas either === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.39.198] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] Yagisan: no, Santa brought me uninterrupted sleep instead. [07:17] crimsun: lucky you. Santa brought me a large hole in my wallet, and a severe lack of sleep since then [07:17] Yagisan: :) === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] crimsun: It's called the "joy" of 2 under 2 === smallfoot [i=gorilla@c-a25b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] hi [07:20] what is this channel about? [07:20] read the topic. [07:20] and why is there is so many damn ubuntu channels? [07:20] and can you please tell that guy crimsun not unban me [07:20] because we're so damn many? [07:21] lol [07:21] oh [07:21] ok [07:21] i guess its good idea have many chans then [07:21] crimsun, please unban smallfoot please... :D [07:21] yeh, pwetty please [07:21] sorry, can't unban him here ;) [07:21] is ubuntu the most used linux of all distros? === Yagisan sighs === crimsun looks at the merge list instead === jsgotangco has nothing to do === smallfoot confused === smallfoot hugs crimsun, Yagisan and jsgotangco, extra big hug to jsgotangco [07:23] err why? [07:23] wOOt! I found yet another way to make deng FTBFS [07:23] because you said to him plz unban me [07:23] deng FTBFS? [07:23] smallfoot, you really believed that? :D === Yagisan feels like taking a shower again [07:23] ye [07:24] lol [07:24] warthy is newer than breeze badger? === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] can you use 'su' on ubuntu? [07:26] smallfoot: no [07:26] smallfoot: warty was first [07:26] ok [07:27] which one was before hoary hedgehog? === method [n=method@pool-141-156-236-161.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] u410 [07:27] if you cant use 'su' on ubuntu then it sucks [07:27] it sucks that must type sudo everytime before use a command === jsgotangco kicks smallfoot [07:27] well, its so strange [07:28] i understand why its no root account, since that page says the benefit of no root [07:28] smallfoot, its like this [07:28] smallfoot: You have no understanding of of system accountability do you ? [07:28] but then again, many telnet and ssh dont allow remote root login so it dont matter [07:28] i dont know, maybe [07:28] smallfoot, if you know the difference of su and sudo you'll know the benefits [07:28] iknow different [07:28] tell me [07:28] what is the most obvious difference [07:28] sudo run command, su give you privilieges [07:28] no [07:28] strike 1 [07:28] damn [07:29] just tell me the most obvious benefit of ussing sudo from su === Yagisan knows [07:29] sudo can run command immediately by 1 command instead of first use su, then type command [07:30] no no let's not talk about semantics [07:30] its pretty simple really [07:30] ok then i dont know [07:30] to me, is the same [07:30] both have power [07:30] so do batteries and power sockets [07:31] but they are not the same === Yagisan kicks deng hard === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] ok [07:33] who make all fancy names [07:33] like hoary hedgehog, breezy badger, war warthog [07:33] ? [07:34] the boss [07:35] ok [07:35] what if i make trademark on warty warthog?? [07:35] and breezy badger?? [07:35] the boss will sue your arse off the face of the planet [07:35] Canonical might own the trademarks. [07:35] I expect they would [07:36] ok [07:36] That's what corporations are for. [07:36] guys tell that guy crimsun to unban me from the other channels [07:36] mum says i must go sleep and close computer [07:36] bye!!! [07:36] What did you do? [07:36] crimsum - please ban smallfoot from ALL channels [07:37] good thing I don't have that sort of privilege ;) [07:37] apparently he is a swedish gorilla [07:37] wtf???? [07:37] WHY?? [07:37] LOLOL IM NOT MONKEY!! [07:38] please dont ban me from all channels [07:38] 17:37 [freenode] -!- smallfoot [i=gorilla@c-a25b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] [07:38] 17:37 [freenode] -!- ircname : gorilla [07:38] please unban me from all chaanels [07:38] 17:37 [freenode] -!- channels : #ubuntu-motu [07:38] 17:37 [freenode] -!- server : irc.freenode.net [http://freenode.net/] [07:38] looks like a gorilla to me;) [07:38] OH YEH SMART GUY [07:38] 17:37 [freenode] -!- End of WHOIS [07:38] lololol [07:38] smallfoot: rest assured that I won't (un)ban you from all channels [07:38] hmm [07:38] ok [07:38] =/ [07:39] you guys should be lucky i dont have ops!! [07:39] i would ban everybody!! [07:39] hehe @ crimsun [07:39] hehe [07:39] Hobbsee, you have the cute [07:39] come on let's play warcraft [07:40] yeh [07:40] tell me your guys name in warcraft [07:40] then if you dont give me all your item, my guild will hunt you!! [07:40] yeah right [07:41] ok [07:41] mom get angry [07:41] smallfoot: please take this to #warcrat or something, its off topic here [07:41] i must close computer [07:41] bye!! === smallfoot hugs lifeless crimsun jsgotangco [07:42] this is so funny, and yet so sad [07:42] I'd say about 10 yrs [07:42] when i started on linux, i had a lot of questions but i didnt annoy people (im pretty sure of it) [07:43] I still have lots of questions, but the best way to learn is to do it [07:43] speaking of which === Yagisan kicks ia32-libs-universe and deng both again [07:44] Yagisan: I think 10 could only be physical, not mental age. === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] lifeless: possibly. btw if you are who I think you are, did you get your laptop fixed from udu ? [07:45] erm, @ udu - my laptop was working, but the hinge was getting worse and worse [07:46] I cannot open the hinge any more at all as of about 5 months back, I bought a dell x1, still have not managed to get the manufacturer to respond to get the hoverbook fixed. [07:46] lifeless: yep - thats the one. [07:47] lifeless: I met you, IIRC your in Sydney right [07:47] yes [07:47] up epping way [07:47] oh you were there? === Yagisan needs to get his replacement key signed [07:48] jsgotangco: yep. It was nice - I went for proactive security [07:48] you were at the UDU keysigning? [07:48] jsgotangco: yes - before terrible disaster struck [07:48] brb [07:48] wow so we got to meet but didnt chat at all lol [07:49] jsgotangco: that sucks :( [07:50] what's your full name i might have signed it === Yagisan is Jamie Jones [07:51] right [07:51] lifeless: I'm down in lidcombe. perhaps one day when you're not busy, I could meet up with you for a key signing ? [07:52] sure [07:52] I work from home, so ;) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-174-181.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] lifeless: heh - so do I === Yagisan makes note to pack business cards === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] jsgotangco: It's funny - I've probably met most people here, yet I can't remember what they look like [07:57] more people from sydney - oh good! [07:58] Hobbsee: so where are you ? [07:58] around near dural [07:59] that's not too far away, a pain to get to via public transport though [08:00] yeah, i can drive, fortunately === Yagisan just walks 30 metres to the train station [08:00] actually, cherrybrook is a closer location [08:00] hehe nice, at epping? [08:00] nope, that's lifeless. I'm at licombe [08:01] ah, right, yep [08:01] it could be worse, eg auburn, bankstown, lakemba etc [08:02] wOOt "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" [08:02] hehe true [08:04] Hobbsee: so, what are you working on now ? [08:04] right now? i'm a little dazed to work on this second, but i was doing a version of ksudoku earlier... [08:05] I do my best work when I'm out of it ;) [08:05] hehe true [08:05] i just got home from work === method [n=method@pool-141-156-236-161.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:07] Hobbsee: are you are motu yet ? [08:08] no [08:08] i usually end up sending stuff through Riddell-awa [08:12] Hobbsee: I just send my stuff to revu, and await the "we can't have this in ubuntu, because upstream is needs to be beaten with a cluebat" comments [08:12] hehe great [08:12] has anyone verified http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ch02.html if it works [08:14] jsgotangco: I just read it. there are typos and it won't work as is [08:15] jsgotangco: most of it is fine [08:15] jsgotangco: perhaps a cut & paste error from the wiki ? [08:15] Yagisan, where is the orignial wiki entry? [08:15] its from docbook source [08:16] jsgotangco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [08:16] ok i'll check it out [08:17] jsgotangco: the wiki one works fine [08:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto doesn't apply? [08:18] jsgotangco: it does. [08:18] jsgotangco: both are useful. 1st one esp for amd64 users [08:18] ok so i do DebootstrapChroot first right? [08:19] jsgotangco: yes [08:19] jsgotangco: wait - is this for developing packages ? [08:20] i just want to try it out [08:20] i assume i just change the lines that says breezy to dapper [08:21] Yagisan, but right, for creating packages, wanted to verify the steps being done for documentation [08:22] jsgotangco: for building packages Pbuilder howto is good, but it will only build a pbuilder for your arch [08:23] jsgotangco: if you need to build a pbuilder for another arch, ie i386 on an amd64 system it is a little bit more involved [08:24] i'll go first to debootstrap and see how it goes [08:25] jsgotangco: debootstrap will give you a chroot - good for doing test installs of your package [08:25] jsgotangco: but I strongly recommend you do the pbuilder howto to set up your build environment [08:25] what do i do first? [08:26] jsgotangco: what is your arch ? [08:26] 386 [08:29] jsgotangco: do pbuilder first to set up a build environment [08:29] jsgotangco: do you have apt-cacher set up ? [08:29] hmm nope [08:31] jsgotangco: If you don't have a fat pipe, then we should set one up first, then pbuilder === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-16-144.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden_ [n=ealden@ipdial-189-55.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] should i chnage all references of breezy to dapper? [08:33] jsgotangco: ping me if you need help with apt-cacher. yes you can change breezy to dapper, or hoary for that matter [08:34] Yagisan, got spare time now? [08:34] jsgotangco: some [08:35] jsgotangco: I installed apt-cacher on my firewall box [08:35] ahh === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] i always get perm denied on this line [08:38] $ sudo echo APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1; > /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/apt.conf.d/allow-unauthenticated [08:40] odd. Try this sudo `echo APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1; > /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/apt.conf.d/allow-unauthenticated` [08:40] if not, I'll dcc you the file [08:49] strange === Yagisan wishes percussive maintenance worked on stubborn packages === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@openwire.metawire.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] nice shell [09:42] shell? [09:42] metawire [09:42] heh [09:42] ah :) === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | Grab your merge here: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new | sign up for ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com now! === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by \sh at Wed Dec 14 00:06:37 2005 === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.196.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-205-157.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] slomo_, ping === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@c141186.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-225-195.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] Gloubiboulga: pong === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] salut pef [01:20] Gloubiboulga: salut :) [01:20] slomo_, hello. Still around ? [01:20] sure [01:21] do you have time to review my package slomo_ ? [01:21] hmm, later... not now ;) [01:21] np [01:21] Gloubiboulga: url ? :) [01:22] pef, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1294 merci [01:22] :) === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-2919.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@cpc2-cosh5-5-0-cust84.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asbin [n=asbin@d83-179-11-107.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@cpc2-cosh5-5-0-cust84.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.72.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] evening fellow MOTUs :) [02:28] cool, package.qa.debian.org already incorporates ubuntu patches from Keybuk :) [02:31] zakame, hi [02:32] heya Gloubiboulga :) === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] I have a little question for you zakame (and other MOTUs) [02:32] go ahead :) [02:33] I'm working on a package, and the source dir contains a .bat and several backup files [02:33] should I remove all this from the .orig.tar.gz ? [02:33] no [02:33] only when it makes the package harder or impossible [02:33] backup files as in .*~ and ^#.*# ? [02:33] zakame, yep [02:34] slomo_, ok. [02:34] Gloubiboulga: there are very few reasons you can remove something from an orig.tar.gz [02:34] Gloubiboulga: dpkg-source will clean them anyway on package build, so you don't have to touch them ;) [02:34] Gloubiboulga: just ignore the backup files [02:34] ok, I'll ignore all this files :) [02:34] thanks Masters === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] slomo_: could I bother you for a bit ? I'd like to dcc you a rules file, a build log & see if you can help me see what I stuffed up === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] yes, sure... but i've to leave in ~30 minutes [02:39] thanks slomo_ === nomed [n=debaser@host192-76.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] hi all [02:40] is there any xubntu devel here ? [02:40] *xubuntu* === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:41] i think some packages need some changes === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] nomed: just file a bug? [02:44] Hieronymus, it's not a bug ... [02:45] but for ex .. should xfdesktop be a modular pkge ? [02:45] xfdesktop + xfce4-menu ? [02:45] or should ivman be modular ? [02:45] like ivman-kde + ivman-xfce + ivman ? [02:45] and so on .. === lfittl [n=lfittl@chello080108198254.2.13.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] nomed: no idea [02:48] nomed: perhaps posting something about that to ubuntu-devel ML would be better [02:48] brb MOTUs === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] nomed: janimo is your man for xfce. I think a post to our mailing list would be the best way to reach him [02:55] so for xubuntu ubuntu-motu list is fine ... [02:55] k [02:55] thanks [02:56] sure. [02:56] perhaps even ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@210.213.69.114] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] waah nufw has so many lintian errors, and I haven't even touched it :( === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd550182.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@d80-170-49-126.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c141186.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lythys [n=asbin@d83-179-11-107.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-2919.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd550182.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] ajmitch: ping [03:51] jinty: it's almost 4am in new zealand, it'll be a while before you get a pong [03:52] Yagidan: thanks;) didn't realize [03:53] no worries mate [04:10] Unfrgiven: ping [04:10] (er prolly early morning too) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] wb raphink :) [04:16] zakame: do you knwo of a way to recover data ? [04:17] I had instaled two chroots on this machine [04:17] raphink: recoving as in recovering deleted files? [04:18] that was quick === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.179.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] raphink: what sort of data do you need recovered ? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] zakame: any idea? [04:20] Yagisan: read up [04:20] raphink: recoving as in recovering deleted files? [04:20] Yagisan: I just `rm -rf /var/sidchroot' forgetting my /home was mounted on it [04:20] zakame: yes [04:20] I lost most of my docs [04:21] i dont' really mind about my docs [04:21] raphink: oh dear - are you still using the box ? [04:21] but I lost my sister's docs aswell [04:21] and I'm pretty sure she didn't backup anything [04:21] raphink: well iirc one could do some debug2fs hacking, but that's bloody :/ [04:21] yes [04:21] it's basically a hit-or-miss approach [04:22] :s [04:22] I basically deleted 90% of my sister's docs and settings [04:22] WHOA [04:22] raphink: crap - thats not good. best chance you have of recovering data is to dd /dev/hda and pipe it somewhere, eg another box with netcat [04:23] and if it's in ext3... well, that's very hard :(( [04:23] then you need to run pyflag over the dd image to recover the data [04:23] yes it's ext3 [04:23] that's what I do at work, it's time consuming [04:24] will taht work if I boot from a live CD and run it? [04:24] but the less you use the box, the better your chances of recovering the data [04:24] raphink: pyflag IIRC is not in ubuntu :( [04:24] raphink: was /home a seperate partition ? [04:24] so I should just halt the system if I want to have a chance to recover? [04:25] Yagisan: yes [04:25] raphink: oh that's good news. do you have enough space on another partition to make an image of home ? [04:25] no [04:26] on another comp maybe [04:26] raphink: can you access that other comp with eg nfs or samba ? [04:26] it's not set [04:27] raphink: the less you write to /home the better your chance of recovering the data [04:27] yes [04:27] raphink: you can't log out, because you killed /home, you'll have a hard time logging in [04:27] I'll reboot with knoppix that'll be safer [04:27] I didn' tkill /home [04:28] I already rebooted since I removed the files :s [04:28] raphink: I'd set up that other box now, and dd your home partition to an image there [04:28] dd? [04:28] back [04:29] raphink: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/savemyarse/home.img [04:29] disk duplicate/dump [04:29] change hda1 to what your partition was [04:29] yes [04:29] is === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] zakame: reminds me of work this. Did I mention I do data recovery ? [04:31] heya seth_k|lappy :) [04:31] Yagisan: w00t [04:31] Yagisan, $$$ [04:31] heya zakame :) how's tricks [04:31] If he was in sydney, he could drop the box off today [04:31] tricks? [04:32] anyway, if he doesn't get the dd done quickly, he'll have 0 chance of recovering his data [04:32] Morning MOTU [04:33] hi Kyral :) [04:33] G'day Kyral [04:34] I'll be heading off to bed soon. zakame no other ideas on why my rules voodoo fails ? [04:34] Yagisan: is this package available somewhere so I could d-l and check? [04:34] (I'll be in bed rsn myself ;) === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:35] zakame: I'll put the current work in progress up in just a sec [04:36] just waiting on another build to see if that helps [04:36] zakame, things, work, whatever :P [04:37] zakame: you'll need to add my private repo to your list if you want the extra amd64 build deps though [04:37] seth_k|lappy: ah :) well, here doing some edits for DebootstrapChroot === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] k === raphink [n=knoppix@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] hi again [04:43] wb raphink :) [04:43] Yagisan, I'm on knoppix now [04:43] ty zakame [04:43] my /home is not mounted anymore [04:43] so there's no risk of altering it no more [04:43] now what shall I do? [04:44] ;s [04:45] raphink: caught me just before leaving for bed === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:45] huhu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] Yagisan, see my pb is that my /home is far bigger than any other partition I have here [04:45] raphink: is the other box up and running, and accessible over the network ? [04:45] yes [04:46] raphink: I never work on the raw partition, only images - so I can't fuck up [04:46] mhm [04:46] raphink: can you mount a directory on the other box ? [04:46] well the /home I want to work on is 107.57GB, with 26.61GB currently used [04:46] I can do anything on the other box, over ssh [04:47] raphink: and you will need to search 107.57GB to find that 26.61GB of data [04:47] yes [04:47] the pb is that nowhere except on /home do I have more than 100GB of HD [04:47] the other box is less than 60GB [04:48] and this one's / is about 6GB [04:48] and i guess it wouldn't be a a good idea to play with LVM [04:48]