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GnarlyBobpashaw: ok, I'll try that, thanks for the suggestion12:00
pashawGnarlyBob,   if knoppix works  then we can get this working12:00
paulproteus|laptGnarlyBob: Go to your BIOS and reset the ECSD data.12:00
braniffi know my videocard will refresh vertically at a rate higher than 60hz, but i can't adjust it higher than that in ubuntu.....how do i increase the rate ??12:00
ShadymanNative support doesnt exist for my wireless card12:00
paulproteus|laptThat might fix the ACPI problems.12:00
GnarlyBob(date of release of this machine, btw, is June 05)12:00
apokryphosPEPE01: English only in here please.12:00
GnarlyBobECSD... I don't remember seeing anything like that in the BIOS12:00
pashawGnarlyBob,   i know  945 chipset  sweet machine but    way new12:00
DaBluebraniff,  check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:00
mike998paulproteus|lap: Sorry, I should be more precise, I have tried a reboot.  This is a fresh install of Breezy12:01
GnarlyBobpashaw: yeah, nice hardware, but I still wish I had bought the AMD64 I went for :\12:01
DaBluescan through it and you'll find the resolutions with associated refresh rates12:01
PEPE01Kad bi znao12:01
braniffDaBlue, what do i look for in there??12:01
paulproteus|laptmike998: That should be equivalent to a reboot.12:01
bashed_dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/622012:01
paulproteus|laptTry doing Alt-F2 xterm12:01
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GnarlyBobI think it's because this one has a remote control and that was the clincher12:01
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mike998paulproteus|lap: Already done that, XTerm launches without a problem12:01
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paulproteus|laptmike998: What about Alt-F2 gnome-terminal ?12:02
pashawGnarlyBob,   newest i have is (2)  865 chipset machines12:02
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bashed_also, I am having a problem accessing google.com. and this is affecting other sited that use google ads.. it seems like whenever firefox tries to access google, it stop at "connecting to www.google.com"12:02
mike998paulproteus|lap: Same Deal...12:02
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bashed_any ideas?12:02
mike998paulproteus|lap: I have also done an apt-get remove/install and still nothing12:02
filip_What does i need to get w32codec?12:02
dabaRbashed_: try purging your iptables rules. Maening resetting yoru firewall. "sudo iptables --flush"12:03
Kyralor just -F12:03
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bashed_dabaR, I am using firestarter tho, will that affect the protection?12:03
apokryphosfilip_: eh?12:03
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jacrespohi all12:03
paulproteus|laptmike998: Hmm.  I would guess there's something odd about the permissions.12:03
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how i use x11 mouse themes?12:03
paulproteus|laptmike998: Do this from xterm:12:03
GnarlyBobreset the BIOS to all defaults (probably a good thing anyway, I've mucked about in there a lot) - still won't get through boot without the acpi/apic flags12:03
filip_what is it i need to play mp3 is not that w32codec?12:04
brejoalguem q fale portugues?12:04
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Shadyman!mp312:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:04
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paulproteus|laptmike998: Actually, wait - what is your username on the Ubuntu setup?12:04
apokryphos!pt12:04
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:04
mike998paulproteus|lap: mike12:04
zool2005can anyone tell me if its possible to change the language for the gnome dictionary applet from english to french?12:04
bashed_dabaR, i tried flushing it, but then the internet stopped working. I restarted firestarter and it came back on12:05
paulproteus|laptmike998: sudo chown -Rv mike /home/mike12:05
Sepheebearfilip_: you need libmad12:05
brejovaleu12:05
Sepheebearfilip_: but it depends on what app you're using to listen to mp312:05
paulproteus|laptmike998: Do that from the xterm; it "ch"anges the "own"ership "R"ecursively and "v"erbosely on your home directory to mike.12:05
AJ359anyone know where can i get a copy of the kernal source code used in Ubuntu 5.10??12:05
bashed_dabaR, in firestarter, i set "ppp0" to be the internet connected device, and "eth1" to be the local one. nothing for eth0 which is the physical device that connects to the dsl modem12:05
mike998paulproteus|lap: Yep - Just did that and nothing dong12:05
paulproteus|laptmike998: "nothing dong"?12:06
mike998paulproteus|lap: Ownership is not changed12:06
paulproteus|laptmike998: Well, try gnome-terminal again, "just in case"....12:06
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mike998paulproteus|lap: This is the only account... I have also tried to do the gnome-terminal again, and still get the same error12:07
bashed_now pastebin.ubuntu-nl.com is stuck at "connecting to ads.googlesyndication.com"12:07
bashed_:(12:07
bashed_I don't know where to start12:08
mike998paulproteus|lapt: This IS strange... sudo gnome-terminal works fine12:08
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paulproteus|laptmike998: I think it has to do with the settings your user has in /home/mike/.gnome2/  .12:08
frI followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?12:08
paulproteus|laptWhat's the error again?12:08
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kaffeendmorning all12:08
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Nevishello.12:08
mike998paulproteus|lapt: Agreed... I'll check it out and see what is there12:08
dabaR_bashed_: don't do the flush thing, it is not healthy.12:09
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bashed_dabaR_, i restarted firestarter and its fine now12:09
Ophiocus!serial12:09
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Ophiocus12:09
dabaR_bashed_: which is fine? the google, or the disconnections?12:09
AJ359where can i get a copy of the ubuntu kernal source code??12:09
AJ359anyone?12:09
bashed_dabaR_, the internet. when i flushed, i couldnt use the internet anymore, the other 2 issues are still happening12:10
cafuegoAJ359: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1212:10
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bashed_dabaR, it seems tho if i restart firefox, google *sometimes* works12:10
paulproteus|laptbashed_: Do you think it's a DNS problem?12:10
t|awayfor all of you who want msn webcam support, amsn 0.95 has it12:10
paulproteus|laptTry adding 128.151.2.1 to your resolv.conf .12:10
bashed_paulproteus|lapt, no. firefox resolves the dns (i think),12:10
rosendahl__I need to add a few lines to my sources.file list so I can add more repos ... but where do I find it ?12:10
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bashed_paulproteus|lapt, it passes the "looking up hostname"12:11
paulproteus|laptrosendahl__: Try "locate sources.list"12:11
slewanyone here gotten tovid to work?12:11
twystedrosendahl__ /etc/apt/sources.list12:11
kaffeendhey guys, I'm wanting to install some games using Wine, but I can't find it anywhere... well, I found docs at ./usr/share/wine but there're only 2 files there and no app. Where should I be looking please?12:11
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Nevishow do I make gnome start?12:11
paulproteus|laptNevis: startx12:11
dabaRbashed_: can you ping to google? have you cleared out the cache on the browser?12:11
Nevisokay.12:11
twystedkaffeend> have you even installed wine?12:11
Nevisyou reckon that would work?12:12
bashed_dabaR, i did try to clear out the cache to no avail12:12
NevisI'll give it a shot. :-)12:12
kaffeendtwysted: thru Synaptic, yes12:12
frI followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?12:12
bashed_dabaR, I cant ping to anything12:12
astaToPastaHi, i currently download ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool for local usage. BUT: Is there any way to get only the latest packages for only one distribution for one plattform?!? I dont like it to waste a transfer-volume of 110GB!12:12
rosendahl__thanks guys12:12
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dabaRbashed_: so the connection does not drop any more?12:12
bashed_dabaR, i think it might be related to my firewall config12:12
ForzaIm starting to get tierd on this crap, what the h*ll should i do to get VLC play the wmv streaming file (mms://), and yes i have installed the w32codecs ????????????12:12
bashed_dabaR, I am still unsure. If i leave the com,puter for a while it drops12:12
dabaRbashed_: turn off firewall to determine.12:13
bashed_dabaR, I havent changed anything.12:13
twystedastaToPasta> theres a apt-mirror(?) package that you can use that should get only the latest12:13
bashed_dabaR, turning off the firewall doesnt do anything12:13
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dabaRbashed_: what I recommend to dsl people that have issues is to remove all lines that are about dsl from the interfaces file, and then rerun pppoeconf12:13
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dabaRbashed_: then I doubt it is related to the firewall.12:13
bashed_ ping cnn.com12:13
bashed_ping: unknown host cnn.com12:13
astaToPastatwysted, thank, you, ill try it. (yet)12:13
Ophiocushod do i install a legacy serial port mouse in ubuntu?12:13
bashed_dabaR, but i can go to cnn.com12:14
dabaRbashed_: and can you visit cnn.com in a browser?12:14
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Shadymanhmmm... /ignore forza.12:14
bashed_dabaR, yes12:14
twystedbashed_ try to ping 216.126.238.18712:14
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bashed_dabaR, I'll try doing that to the interfaces file12:14
dabaRbashed_: back up first, though.12:14
bashed_twysted, --- 216.126.238.187 ping statistics ---12:14
bashed_6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5009ms12:14
twystedForza>  read the wiki, and vlc FAQ12:14
twystedbashed_ try 213.186.190.112:15
dabaRbashed_: ya, you do have some dns issues... but one I never seen before.12:15
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orgs2006hello12:15
bashed_same thing12:15
twysteddabar its not a dns issue if he can see webpages at the domain its something with his networking12:15
orgs2006i have problem with command write12:15
bashed_can you read this?12:15
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twystedbashed_ either your linux firewall or maybe possibly your modem is blocking the pings12:15
intelikeyE; totem could not startup resource busy or not avalable     <--- cause ?12:16
bashed_coz my connection apparetnyl dropped now12:16
bashed_i can no longer visit webpages12:16
orgs2006say no logged in tty12:16
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bashed_but xchat seems to still work12:16
GnarlyBobmy current problems have nothing to do with the machine, or acpi; I've gotten past that12:16
twystedbashed_ id contact your isp12:16
dabaRtwysted: oh, oh, I read the IP ping stats wrong.12:16
dabaRbashed_: nono, I would not yet.12:16
bashed_hmm... connection seems fine, but its definitely dns12:16
bashed_so connection doesnt drop12:16
twystedits not dns bashed_ its something in your networking12:16
Nevisdoes anyone have any experience installing on nforce2 MBs?12:17
twystedbecause we are just trying to ping a ip12:17
dabaRbashed_: try poff/pon dsl provider if you ran the iptables --flush, it removes the dns settings.12:17
twystedits a networking issue :)12:17
bashed_dabaR, poff/pon works fine, but it doesnt fix it. i would still get hostname problems after a certain amount of time...12:17
intelikeyvidio error  anyone ?12:18
intelikeyE; totem could not startup resource busy or not avalable     <--- cause ?12:18
dabaRbashed_: are y ou on that computer now?12:18
bashed_dabaR, do you think i should maybe manually add the dns servers?12:18
GnarlyBobinstalling the base system... installing core packages... and in /var/log/messages (not /target/var/log/bootstrap.log, as it indicates) is shown "dpkg-deb (subprocess): failed to exec tar: no such file or directory"12:18
astaToPastatwysted, i could not find any package like >apt-mirror< or similar. Was apt-proxy the tool you meant?12:18
bashed_dabaR, yes12:18
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FreakyFriesHello :) Does anybody knows how I can see my FPS when I'm running glxgears ?12:18
twystedastaToPasta> im not sure read the desc in aptitude or synaptic, it could be it though12:18
bashed_dabaR, i can no longer visit webpages until i restart the connection12:18
dabaRbashed_: you can not ping to an IP address, that means your ping is not working, not a dns issue, I misread your results above.12:18
twystedintelikey> have you tried rebooting?12:18
bashed_dabaR, ok.12:18
intelikeytwysted, why would i ?12:19
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bashed_dabaR, I am thinking it might be firestarter12:19
twystedintelikey> *shrugs* :)12:19
twystedbashed_ it probably is firestarter12:19
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bashed_dabaR, im gonna mess around with it a bit12:19
bashed_thanks twysted12:19
frI followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?12:19
dabaRbashed_: but you are on the same computer, hmm...try turning off firestarter, I mean, if it does not work after turning it off, then I doubt it is firestarter.12:19
bashed_dabaR, but firestarter changes your configuration permanently doesnt it?12:19
intelikeytwysted, do you think there is any reason that a reboot should help ?12:20
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dabaRbashed_: did you flush iptables?12:20
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mweif you stop firestarter it brings down the filtering12:20
twystedintelikey> i dunno just something to keep you busy :) its prolly just hung up open the process viewer and see if theres a zombie process for it12:20
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bashed_dabaR, once, then i restarted the firewall coz iternet stopped working12:20
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bashed_dabaR, but restarting the firewall  now doesnt do anything12:21
dabaRbashed_: ya, mine stopped working when I flushed my iptables.12:21
FreakyFriesDoes anybody knows how I can see my FPS when I'm running glxgears ?12:21
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dabaRbashed_: and I went poff pon dsl-provider to get back here.12:21
bashed_dabaR, what should the "internet connected interface be"? eth0 or ppp0?12:22
dabaRFreakyFries: try "man glxgears" I am sure it shows the option there.12:22
dabaRbashed_: ppp0 in firestarter, iirc.12:22
mwethere is no man glxgears here12:22
twystedppp012:22
FreakyFriesNo manual dabaR12:22
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bashed_dabaR, what about broadcast traffic? i have 'external blocked' internet not blocked12:22
=== intelikey has plenty of thing to keep him busy without playing the M$ reboot game.... but thanks a lot twysted for what little you did.
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to use X11 Mouse themes?12:23
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bashed_dabaR, I think there is still a dns problem, coz i can use xchat, but i cant browse now12:24
SpudDogganyone know where i put my web site .html files using apache in ubuntu?12:24
bashed_dabaR, i have to restart the connection. it seems like the dns servers are flushed from memory or something every while12:24
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NgSpudDogg: have a look in /var/www :)12:25
bashed_is there another easy to use firewall gui like firestarter?12:25
ElitePetedoes anyone know how to use X11 mouse themes12:25
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dabaRbashed_: why do you use a firewall anyhow?12:25
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Martinhi, I need a little help...12:26
SpudDoggNg, thank you!12:26
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bashed_dabaR, (1) a lot of attacks on my network, (2) i need NAT12:26
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bashed_dabaR, firestarter does both12:26
twystedbashed_ get a router12:26
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MartinLook, I want to get my ATI AIW Radeon working. I need to setup picking up TV signal...12:27
bashed_twysted, not a solution12:27
twystedbashed_> it is :) u get nat and a firewall12:27
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twystedive seen routers handle ppp connections for dsl alot better then a pc12:28
bashed_twysted, i mean not a practical one at the moment :P12:28
twystedah ;)12:28
MartinI have installed gatos, but TV-TIME still doesnt pick up the signal. Says stg. about nonexisting /dev/video0...12:28
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Martinany clues<12:28
bashed_how about fireflier? is it any good?12:28
twystedMartin> google your card + linux12:28
pashawFreakyFries,   glxgears -printfps12:28
twystedbashed_> use firestarter u just have to configure it properly12:28
Shadymanhow do i sudo a Makefile?12:28
erUSULbashed_, in use firehol is not a gui but an easily configurable script12:29
Martintwysted> I did so - didnt find much...12:29
erUSULShadyman, sudo make12:29
ShadymanerUSUL: k12:29
FreakyFriespashaw, just the gears, no fps12:29
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pashawFreakyFries,   read the terminal12:29
FreakyFriespashaw, sorry :) The were in the terminal :)12:30
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astaToPastatwysted, its not apt-proxy *cry*12:30
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twystedastaToPasta> let me take a look12:30
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twystedastaToPasta> its is apt-proxy it maintains a mirror12:31
twystedhttp://apt-proxy.sf.net/12:31
ShadymanHmm... is it possible to sudo a terminal session?12:31
paulproteus|laptShadyman: You bet.12:31
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Shadymanpaulproteus|lapt: Killer!12:31
paulproteus|laptgksudo gnome-terminal12:31
erUSULShadyman, sudo -i12:32
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Shadymanpaulproteus|lapt: I'm So making a launcher for that :D12:32
paulproteus|laptShadyman: (-:12:32
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WebLOCHHey guys, I need a step by step guide to checking/installing temp sensors for my cpu, i have followed the wiki, but it just reports how much ram I have... so I need a tutor clearly  haha.12:32
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kemikWebLOCH:  lmsensors?12:33
astaToPastatwysted, true, but as long ive read (source) it only mirrors packages i install. I need a repository from scratch, since my only-one-time-a-month-internet-connection ;-)12:33
MadpilotWebLOCH: use Ksensors on the desktop, it seems to work much better than xsensors12:33
SpudDoggCan someone do me a favor?  Just visit a website to test my apache installation?12:33
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ShadymanSpudDogg: K12:33
twystedastaToPasta> it does that, it updates from mirrors so u can host a local repository for multipul users on your network12:33
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SpudDoggShadyman, just try spuddogg.sytes.net12:34
WebLOCHkemik,  Madpilot I appear to not be able to install the modules correctly, also Madpilot are Ksensors all KDE-ish ?12:34
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ShadymanSpudDogg: Works.12:34
QMarioHow do I change my profile for Firefox?12:34
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MadpilotWebLOCH: hardly, it's a very small window much like xsensors12:34
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SpudDoggshadyman, does it say "The server is working"12:34
ShadymanSpudDogg: Yep.12:34
WebLOCHMadpilot, gonna try em now12:34
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MadpilotWebLOCH: and a little temp. display in my notification area12:34
SpudDoggshadyman, great, thank you12:34
QMarioMadpilot, really?12:35
ShadymanSpudDogg: No prob :)12:35
MadpilotQMario: really what? :P12:35
QMarioThat's how I change my profile in Firefox?12:35
WebLOCHMadpilot, yeah it looks like its working, cant see how i can tell the temp tho to be honest12:35
erUSUL!enter12:36
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:36
MadpilotWebLOCH: right click on the Ksensors window, choose Configure12:36
Martindoes anybody know how to get ATI AIW Radeon to play TV signal?12:36
mwelol. I found out how to get glxgears to show the fps12:36
WebLOCHMadpilot, yeah done that much, cant see a temp value12:37
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mweglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark12:37
progamerhey, where can I download mp4 codecs ?12:37
mweand it's no joke12:37
Shadyman!mp412:37
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Shadyman12:37
Shadymanhmm12:37
Shadyman!restrictedformats12:37
ubotuI heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats12:37
astaToPastatwysted, ok, tried to find how to configure that and now im confused, BUT: there is an IRC-Channel (#apt-proxy) and ill go to ask the source. Thank you for help12:37
twystednp astatopasta12:37
Shadymanprogamer: Check there.12:37
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dabaRprogamer: visit the restricted formats page there, and look for aac, or something like that.12:38
progamerty12:39
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ShadymanWhat's the apt-get for the tools such as make, and C++ libs, etc?12:39
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MadpilotWebLOCH: Ksensors has an odd over-complicated UI - it is a KDE app, after all, but you should be able to get it to display CPU temp, MB temp, etc etc - all sorts of data...12:39
GnarlyBobis there any reason why the ubuntu install would bomb out failing to find tar?12:39
MadpilotShadyman: build-essential12:39
WebLOCHMadpilot, xsensor shows me two tabs, labelled EEPROM, both of which report data on my ram, but nothing else12:39
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ShadymanMadpilot: Thanks12:39
WebLOCHMadpilot, KDE offers me two CPU based reports, one is the speed, one is the CPU state, but i see no temp indicator12:40
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QMarioOkay, MadPiliot I found it.12:41
QMarioThank you.12:41
MadpilotWebLOCH: right-click/configure in Ksensors - are there three items down the left-hand window of that box?12:41
dabaRGnarlyBob: what? your install does not work?12:41
ShadymanIs it just me, or does KDE just crash because it likes to?12:41
GnarlyBobdabaR: correct12:41
GnarlyBobinstalling the base system... installing core packages... and in /var/log/messages (not /target/var/log/bootstrap.log, as it indicates) is shown "dpkg-deb (subprocess): failed to exec tar: no such file or directory"12:41
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mweShadyman: it's just you12:41
dabaRGnarlyBob: and did you check cd integrity? it is an option in the installation menu.12:41
Shadymanmwe: Darn.12:41
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mweShadyman: kde never crashed for me12:42
MadpilotWebLOCH: in my system, all the temp, fan speed etc data is on the tab called "asb100 sensors"12:42
GnarlyBobhmm, I don't recall seeing that option, I will check again... but it's identical on the second of 5 breezy cd's shipped from canonical12:42
Shadymanmwe: Every redhat or fedora install i've done with kde always crashes for the darndest things.12:42
WebLOCHMadpilot, I see Global Settings and System Information12:42
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ShadymanKonqueror, etc.12:42
mweI see12:42
MadpilotWebLOCH: and my System Info tab has nothing at all of interest...12:42
Shadymanmwe: It's like, oh noes! You pressed the back button! *crash*12:42
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mweShadyman: I experience no such thing12:43
GnarlyBobShadyman: that ought to teach you to go pushing random buttons, ESPECIALLY the "back" one12:43
ShadymanGnarlyBob: Bwahaha, True.12:43
WebLOCHMadpilot, my Sys Inf tab shows me some system panels, which are CPU Speed, State, RAM, SWAP and Uptime12:43
mweShadyman: I managed to lock up X, messing with glx but I'm sure it would have happened in any wm12:43
Shadymanmwe: True.12:43
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Shadymanmwe: but i've never been able to crash Gnome, even with all the incessant Back-button pushing I do.12:44
MadpilotWebLOCH: yeah, I've got those too - but all the temp & fan data is in my "asb100 sensors" tab...12:44
WebLOCHdont have any other tab12:44
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king-thi how are you??12:44
Shadymanking-t: Hi :)12:44
king-t:)12:44
WebLOCHMadpilot, thats why i assumed i needed help setting up the sensors12:44
pawelwhat would you guys recommend for backup? a small router and backup should be stored on another computer/server over ssh/ftp?12:44
king-twhats going on??12:44
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mweShadyman: yeah. you should use gnome then :)12:44
GnarlyBobI don't see any option for checking CD integrity from the install menu12:44
GnarlyBobfor breezy12:44
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Shadymanmwe: I guess, because I love pressing the Back button.12:45
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mweShadyman: personally I agree with the path that gnome has taken though12:45
MadpilotWebLOCH: have a look here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto or search the forums for more help - I set my sensors up six months ago and can't remember what I did to get them working...12:45
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Shadymanmwe: How so?12:45
mweShadyman: with Linus that is12:45
GnarlyBobShadyman: amateur psychoanalysis says that maybe there are some changes in your life that you wish to roll back12:45
pawelI used to write backup scripts myself but it gets annoying if you do it over and over.12:45
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ShadymanGnarlyBob: Yeah, like installing Windows.12:45
ShadymanGnarlyBob: ;)12:46
GnarlyBobthat's a mistake I've never made, thankfully12:46
king-twho have got the linux ubuntu 5.1 here???12:46
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GnarlyBob5.1 or 5.10?12:46
WebLOCHMadpilot, i tried the wiki, its lead me to where i am now :(  thanks anyway12:46
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AJ359i tried using "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12" to get a copy of the kernal source code but it says "Package linux-source-2.6.12 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package linux-source-2.6.12 has no installation candidate"12:46
mweShadyman: I meant I agree with Linus views on the path that gnome has taken12:47
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zarky#dublin12:47
Shadymanmwe: Oh.12:47
Shadymanmwe: That explains it a bit better :D12:47
mweShadyman: yeah :)12:47
king-t5.1012:47
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MadpilotWebLOCH: yeah, sorry I can't help more - try the forums, though, or ask again here in a while12:48
AJ359i'm trying to get it so that i can build a kernel module to use cuz i'm trying to install a netgear ma111 usb adaptor12:48
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alphyI need help with java.  I've followed the wiki and can't get it to work.....12:48
AJ359i'm using Ubuntu 5.1012:48
WebLOCHMadpilot, will do, your patience as always is appreciated12:48
calamari I'd like to run some things automatically as the computer boots (for one, to set up a /dev/dvd symlink).  Is /etc/profile the place to do this, or is there somewhere better?12:48
ShadymanNext newbie question, what's the apt-get for breezy source?12:49
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king-tomg..i have to ask something but i'm to tired bye all12:49
Forzawhich repositories can i get mplayer from?12:49
Shadymanking-t: Ok. g'night.12:49
apokryphosForza: Multiverse12:49
sklavHi guys12:49
WebLOCHalphy, you a java user or programmer?12:49
king-tthx..12:49
calamariForza: I'd recommend building it yourself12:49
apokryphosShadyman: /msg ubotu sources12:49
mweAJ359: are you connected to the internet with that box and ran sudo apt-get update?12:49
Forzacalamari, well I rather not do that12:49
AJ359no i'm not12:49
GnarlyBobok, this is insane, I'm actually contemplating reinstalling windoze12:49
ShadymanGnarlyBob: Say it ain't so.12:49
mweAJ359: that explains it12:50
sklavwow im surprised ubuntu has this many greeks on the channel or am i just assuming ;)12:50
calamariForza: ahh okay.. just mentioning it because it lets you build to a debian package12:50
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Forzagnarlybob, me 212:50
apokryphossklav: there are many?12:50
mweAJ359: I guess it's not available on the cd12:50
sklavi see that12:50
sklav:)12:50
sklavpretty cool12:50
AJ359mwe: know where else i can get it?12:50
alphyWebLOCH, java user, I need java enviroment to use limewire12:50
Shadyman!sources12:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:50
apokryphossklav: who else here is Greek?12:50
dabaRGnarlyBob: me too, for the 100000000th time in the last year, I get spywarez all the time.12:50
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sklavim assuming calamari12:51
GnarlyBobdabaR: I've never gotten a virus or any spyware12:51
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sklavi myself am greek and ur username sounds greek12:51
sklavhehe12:51
GnarlyBobBut I just can't be productive in the UI nightmare that is windows12:51
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sklavkey word assuming12:51
calamarisklav: nope.. just an old time star wars fan :)12:51
sklavhehe12:51
WebLOCHalphy, I can suggest a way to install  java, but its thru a third-party deb thats repackaged with 1.512:51
mweAJ359: yeah. any repo like archive.ubuntu.com.12:51
apokryphossklav: I'd startup and maintain #ubuntu-gr but my Greek is shaky =)12:51
dabaRGnarlyBob: well, did you check the integrity of your CD?12:51
apokryphosI might anyway12:51
AJ359mwe: k thanks12:51
WebLOCHalphy, and I would advise you drop limewire and start using giFT/giFTcurs12:51
GnarlyBobdabaR: I didn't see any option to do that12:51
sklavapokryphos, my written greek is garbage at that12:52
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sklavits greeklish12:52
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GnarlyBobgreeklish isn't as funny as engrish12:52
GnarlyBobor chinglish12:52
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apokryphossklav: /j #ubuntu-gr ;-)12:52
dabaRGnarlyBob: you press escape when you get asked something, and it is there.12:52
alphyWebLOCH, okay, I just need to be able to download music....  how do I get this giFT you talk of.....12:52
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dabaRalphy: gtk-gnutella, install that rather.12:52
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alphydabaR, I have gtk-gnutella.  I can't get anything to show up from the searches12:53
dabaRalphy: do you use a router, or a firewall?12:53
salahHi. Why do I get a error message like "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg"? Do I have to install any drivers or what? The sound works fine with Gaim..12:54
WebLOCHalphy, you will need to apt-get gift giftd libfasttrack-gift     and then grab a front end, like giftcurs or giftui12:54
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alphydabaR, I think i looked once and it said I was firewalled, how do I change it?12:55
dabaRalphy: do you have a firewall installed, or a router?12:55
GnarlyBobincredibly frustrating to have to jump through these hoops on a vanilla brand-new intel box, and still fail12:55
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eloi!boot12:56
ubotuI haven't a clue, eloi12:56
alphydabaR, must be a firewall, I don't have one installed, I just got ubuntu about a week ago, does it come with one automatically?12:56
eloiwhat?12:56
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salahAny suggestion please?12:56
eloii'm a newbie12:56
dabaRnot really. alphy12:56
eloii don't think iptables is active when you first boot ubuntu12:57
eloiis it?12:57
dabaRsalah: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and install codecs12:57
dabaReloi: no, it is not, it has no rules built in.12:57
Squee-Dhowever it is there12:57
Squee-Dits part of the kernel and always running12:57
alphydabaR, well, I don't have a router and I just open gtk, and it says I'm behind a firewall, so how do I fix it?12:58
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Squee-Dso an iptables -l (i think) will check the state of things12:58
dabaRalphy: try that then, the iptables -l12:58
odatanyone have any opinions on the best video player for linux12:58
dabaRheh, no that is not the option.12:59
Squee-Dhah well sorry bout that12:59
Squee-Dbit rusty12:59
odati have been trying to give totem and gstreamer a chance but am getting frustrated in their performance12:59
Kyralodat: VLC12:59
mweodat: best is a matter of taste. I prefer gmplayer12:59
alphydabaR, try what?  run iptables -1 in the terminal?12:59
eloisoyrr12:59
eloiany idea on how to configure overnet???12:59
MrMaDSeNhowcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?12:59
odati keep hearing that gstreamer is the future but it seems to suck so bad12:59
eloimy status is unclear12:59
dabaRnot really, I do not know what you can do.01:00
odatdon't know if i can wait for it to get better01:00
mweodat: I second that, but a lot of people seem to enjoy it01:00
odatwhat about xine?01:00
KyralXine is good01:00
mweodat: it's great01:00
eloi!boot01:00
ubotueloi: Are you smoking crack?01:00
eloino01:01
KyralI have it as backup in case VLC fails01:01
MrMaDSeNvlc rulez :))01:01
MrMaDSeNhowcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?01:01
odatmwe, totem and gstreamer are jerky and out of sync most of the time01:01
eloii want a list of nodes to boot overnet01:01
eloi!boot01:01
ubotueloi: Are you on ritalin?01:01
ShadymanBwahahah01:01
GnarlyBobit would appear as if "!boot" is a command the bot doesn't grok01:02
Shadyman!boot01:02
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Shadyman01:02
Shadymanapparently.01:02
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eloiplease, help me with overnet01:02
alphyanybody know how to shut off the "firewall" I didn't know I had.  I'm trying to use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm behind a firewall and can't use it01:02
dabaR!msg the bot01:02
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odatif i install vlc will it break gstreamer?01:02
Kyralodat: no01:02
Sepheebearodat: no01:02
Kyralgstreamer is a POS anyway01:02
mweodat: I gave up gstreamer too and went with xine and mplayer01:02
Stormx2How do I change the default size of icons on the desktop?01:03
Olsonodat does VLC run all types of videos ?01:03
Sepheebeartotem-xine works great for me01:03
KyralOlson: almost everything01:03
odatis it pretty much a toss up between vlc xine and mplayer?01:03
Stormx2bmp all the way01:03
Sepheebearhopefully the new gstreamer will be useable01:03
Stormx2lol ^^01:03
patamihi all01:03
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Stormx2well actually im using my new hardware mp3 player ;)01:03
Stormx2but Audacious ftw01:04
OlsonKyral i have a video card with 8mb memori and it doesn run movie iwth .avi even with VLC01:04
odati really want to use the best one i can for streaming video and dvd's01:04
KyralOlson: thats your COMPUTER01:04
Stormx2odat: VLC is the way to go then01:04
patamineed help how to set up a logitech cam in ubuntu01:04
mweodat: I'd go with mplayer, but that's just me01:04
albackerguys is there any html2pdf converter ?01:04
sklavim a xine fan01:04
OlsonKyral it should be coz my process is of 500mhz only01:04
Stormx2albacker: Not sure. Synaptic search for PDF, install, and try locating an "import" option01:05
odatits tough because i don't want to totally give up on gstreamer but i can't just sit around and suffer either01:05
sklavand if you follow the information and install the codecs and the firefox plugin u should be king ;)01:05
Stormx2odat: VLC ftw01:05
MrMaDSeNhowcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?01:05
albackerpatami, i have a logitech quickcam messenger web cam too01:05
Sepheebearalbacker: you can print html to pdf using OO.org01:06
patamialbacker does it work for u01:06
albackerpatami, i havent made it work.. anyway im downloading kernel and than follow the instructions in here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7528401:06
odatStormx2, ok then installing now01:06
Stormx2MrMaDSeN: What do you mean?01:06
patamiam jusing the amsn01:06
Stormx2amsn >.<01:06
Stormx2eek01:06
Olson!es01:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:07
albackerSepheebear, how ?01:07
albackerpatami, no it doesnt.01:07
patamialbacker ok01:07
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Stormx2www.dython.net/stormx/Screenshot.png <-- my sexy new ubuntu desktop01:07
albackergaim is better th o01:07
albackertho *01:07
agorfhello. where are the environmental variables kept?01:07
apokryphosStormx2: where's your menu/panel? ;-)01:08
patamistormx2 wow thats shure a fine pice of art work01:08
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ShadymanStormx2: That's pretty slick.01:09
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alphyI'm trying to use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm firewalled both TCP and UDP wise.  how do I fix this so I can use gnutella?01:10
apokryphosalphy: forward the ports it uses01:11
apokryphos6891 probably, or something01:11
rabbit1hey..  What's the difference between "mount paoint" and "label" when partitioning??01:11
Sepheebearalbacker: nix that about oo.o its not working for me anymore01:11
mwealphy: if you're behind a router you need to forward some ports01:11
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mwealphy: if not, configure your firewall software01:12
alphynwe, to my knowledge I don't have a firewall and I'm not using a router01:12
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ElitePetewhats a good program for burning .bin / cues ?01:13
Sepheebearrabbit1: partitioners dont care about mountpoints01:13
alphyapokryphos, how do I forward ports?01:13
apokryphosalphy: from your router configuration. Standard is by going to 10.0.0.2 in a browser01:13
mwealphy: you don't have dsl or anything?01:13
rabbit1Sepheebear: I'm talking about the ubuntu installer.. what's the "label" for?01:13
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gimmulfis there any way to control pc speaker from beeping without configuring bios?01:14
alphynwe, I have cable but I'm just using a cable modem01:14
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rabbit1partitions have "label" and they have "mount point"   what's label??01:14
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ElitePetewhats a good program for burning .bin / cues ?01:14
gimmulfElitePete:  k3b?01:14
apokryphosK3b01:14
Sepheebearrabbit1: label is an alternate way to specify the partition01:14
ElitePetegimmulf, when i add the .cue it doesn't read the .bin01:14
OlsonElitePete to burn or emulate ?01:14
rosenk3b is the only one I've found that supports overburning01:14
gimmulfok :(01:14
ElitePeteburn01:14
Sepheebearso instead of /dev/hd* you'd use the label01:15
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Olsonnero01:15
rabbit1Sepheebear:  "specify" ??01:15
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apokryphosElitePete: sounds like a faulty bin/cue then01:15
mwealphy: I don't know much about cable connections, sorry01:15
OlsonElitePete nero shoudl be a good program to do that01:15
rabbit1oh!  I get it01:15
ElitePetenero on linux?01:15
rabbit1thanks01:15
Kyraleewww Nero on Linux01:15
GnarlyBobOlson: it was probably specific to linux, which rules out nero, afaik01:15
Sionideerr01:15
alphyapokryphos, I don't have a router, just a cable modem and the ip you gave me didn't work01:15
Olsonalphy are you using cable connection ?01:15
Sionidegnomebaker > nero ?01:15
Kyralk3b > gnomebaker > nero01:16
apokryphosalphy: oh, I presumed you were behind one.01:16
rabbit1should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??01:16
dwhsixhi all - anything I need to do additional to access remote windows shares from ubuntu?  The target machine is XP Home, trying to access the hidden share (e.g. C$)... I keep getting prompted for username/pw, I know I'm giving it a right one... something else?  thanks01:16
ElitePeteyea thats what i need probably gnomebaker01:16
alphyOlson, why yes I am01:16
OlsonKyral i know a site where you can get many program that run in linux01:16
Olsonbut i dont know if i can put it here01:16
KyralOlson: its called Apt-Get01:16
Kyraland its no site01:16
sklavalphy, is your cable modem set to act like a bridge or a router?01:16
Olsonalphy and what do you wanna know?01:16
sklavi know mine has the feature01:16
Olsonin cable connection there is not a modm01:16
Sepheebearrabbit1: if you move drives on the ide chain frequently, labels give you the advantage of not having to know where on the bus the drives are01:17
ElitePeteok cool, gnome baker is working01:17
alphysklav, you know I don't know, I haven't done anything with it, ubuntu just set it for me when I switched from windows01:17
Squee-Dapt-get, and if that doesnt have it, freshmeat is a good concentrator01:17
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rosenis there ANY free mmorpgs that works on Ubuntu ? ... Manaworld and planeshift wont work (planeshift is not 'Ubuntus fault')01:17
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sklavalphy, on ubuntu by default there is no firewall01:18
alphyOlson, I wanna use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm behind a firewall but I have not installed a firewall so how do I fix the problem01:18
lemurwhat program is it that rotates the logs for apache?  I want to change the permissions01:18
ElitePetesklav, thats nto true01:18
ElitePetesklav, their is.01:18
mweElitePete: in k3b I just do tools->burn cd image to burn cue/bin files01:18
sklavby default?01:18
alphysklav, then what's the problem???  gtk-gnutella say's I'm behind one01:18
roseniptables runs always ?01:18
ElitePetesklav, yes the Ip tables are a firewall01:18
Squee-DElitePete no rules b default01:18
ElitePetemwe, thanks. im already using gnomebaker01:18
KyralBut they are disabled by default01:18
rabbit1sephebear: okay, cool..  didn't think of that..  how do you set labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?01:19
sklavElitePete, are they configured by default?01:19
Kyralsklav: no01:19
ElitePetesklav, it's configured to accept no connections01:19
monteirowhen i burn dvds in k3b or burn a cd, dvd burn speed don't goes upper than 2x and cd 16x, i don't know what's the problem?01:19
sklav?01:19
Squee-DYou dont disable iptables, they come configured by default to accept all.01:19
Olsonalphy when i install my ubuntu i will check it up.01:19
ElitePetemonteiro, need to enable dma01:19
ElitePete!dma01:19
sklavmy system accepts all connections01:19
Hoxzerwhat is good cd burner for ubuntu? ( gnome baker crashes all the time)01:19
Olsoni am getting it yet01:19
ElitePete!tell monteiro about dma01:19
KyralElitePete: There are no rules in the IPTables by default01:19
monteiroElitePete : i've that enabled, in hdparm.conf already01:19
sklavand i never touched it on my internal systems01:19
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KyralElitePete: Therefore its off01:19
alphyOlson, well, that's good and all but it doesn't help me no, lol01:19
ElitePetemonteiro, did you do the cmd in terminal ?01:19
kyncanisklav: if you want a firewall, you may take a look at firestarter01:20
Olsonalphy sory man01:20
sklavi have a firewall01:20
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ElitePetefirestarter is NOT a firewall01:20
KyralElitePete: It is01:20
Olsonalphy but we can help ourself , i have clabe connection too01:20
ElitePete..01:20
KyralElitePete: Its a frontend to IPtables01:20
Shadymanwhats the apt-get line for the breezy source code?01:20
ElitePeteit's just a gui for ip tables.01:20
rosenfirestarter is a frontend for iptables01:20
HappuFirestarter just contorls IPtables?01:20
ElitePeteexactly.01:20
monteiroElitePete : i saw it when i wrote : sudo hdparm /dev/hdx...01:20
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KyralElitePete: Which is a firewall01:20
alphyolson, that's okay, i'm not mad or anything01:20
ElitePeteKyral, i don't think so01:20
KyralElitePete: Trust me01:20
Squee-DKyral its not really off as such. Its splitting hairs, but the more appropriate thing to say is that iptables comes configured to accept all connections.01:21
rosencome on gamers ... any free mmorpgs that will run in Ubuntu ?01:21
ElitePeteKyral, nah01:21
KyralElitePete: IPTables is the most powerful firewall known, once you configure it01:21
rabbit1sephebear: okay, cool..  didn't think of that..  how do you set labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?01:21
Olsonalphy do you have a MSN to keep contact ?01:21
Squee-DKyral you'll find most linux eggheads (like me) are pretty specific01:21
ElitePetemonteiro, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc01:21
WebLOCHHey guys, need some help setting up sensors, got it partially working but only displays  some ram output :(01:21
mwethe iptables program is not a firewall either :) it's a tool configure the kernel filtering tables01:21
ElitePetedo that for hda/hdb also01:21
lemurrosen: daimonin is free01:21
KyralSquee-D: What do you think I am?01:21
alphyOlson, yeah, it's john_skow@hotmail.com01:21
Squee-DKyral not sure, but not very specific.01:21
alphyolson, just add me and I'll add you back01:21
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UbuntuNewbieHi everybody!  I hope everyone out there had a Merry Christmas!  I have a question about GParted.01:22
KyralSquee-D: look at my hostmask :P01:22
monteiroElitePete : ok, tks, but i already have that enabled01:22
KyralSquee-D: Technically Synaptic is a GUI to Apt-Get, but its still considered a Package Manager01:22
ElitePetemonteiro, hmm.. tried using another APP to write?01:22
sklavi thought hdparm was configured by default01:22
monteiroElitePete : APP ?01:22
sklavtime to tweak my hdd's01:22
codercould someone help me setup the correct power management on this laptop?01:22
ElitePeteapplication01:22
ElitePetesorry im from the Warez world01:23
ElitePete;-P01:23
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coderWhen the hard drive spins up from being suspended.. sys. freezes01:23
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barroubuntu espaol?01:23
rabbit1Sepheebear: how do you set partition labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?01:23
KyralFirestarter is to IPTables what Synaptic is to Apt-Get01:23
Madpilot!es01:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:23
barrospanish?01:23
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monteiroElitePete : i use always k3b, because gnome burns very slow :(01:23
ElitePetemonteiro, gnome-baker?01:23
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Sepheebearrabbit1: if you use ext2/3 then use "e2label <device>"01:24
rosenlemur, I'll check it out thanks :)01:24
monteiroElitePete : i tried that, but is too buggy for me01:24
mwefirestarter implement some pretty damn kewl default rules01:24
ElitePetemonteiro, hmm...01:24
KyralGranted I don't like Firestarter, preferring to write out my own rules01:24
Kyralbut its still good if you just want a no hassle setup01:24
Sepheebearrabbit1: that's to edit the actual volume labels, then you'd change them in fstab01:24
monteiroElitePete : you use gnomebaker to burn ?01:25
ElitePetemonteiro, using it for the first time right now01:25
rabbit1k, thanks01:25
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rabbit1should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??01:25
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odatStormx2, still there?01:25
Sepheebearrabbit1: but fstab works just fine with /dev/hd* whether or not volume labels are there01:25
ElitePetemonteiro, i'm burning at 4x though, because im doing video, and it's better quality @ slower burn i will try 52x with audio later.01:25
monteiroElitePete : let me now if u burn fast ;)01:26
mweKyral: if you look at the iptables rules firestarter implements you'll see that they're pretty cool. Writing something like that myself would take ages01:26
ElitePetemonteiro, will do01:26
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yaniswhere is the resource file of xterm?01:26
mweKyral: though I used to make my own iptables rules01:26
monteiroElitePete : tks01:26
UbuntuNewbieEvery time I try to run GParted, my system locks up.  My system natively runs Windows XP Pro with the hard disk formatted NTFS; I think my best bet to getting things going more smoothly would be setting up a dual-boot system rather than trying to get everything working on the Ubuntu Live CD.  What do you think?01:26
Squee-DKyral i'll use #ubuntu-offtopic.01:26
Kyralmwe: I write my own b/c I have to let certain things connec to my computer01:26
KyralSquee-D: wha?01:26
Sepheebearwhat's the use of all these highspeed mediaburners if you still have to burn at less than top speed?01:26
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mweKyral: firestarter will manage that too01:27
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ElitePeteKyral, firestarter does thatf ine01:27
Kyralmwe: *Shrug*01:27
KyralI say use Firestarter if you wanna01:27
ElitePeteKyral, so basicly your wasting your time01:27
KyralI already have my ruleset up and loaded01:27
rabbit1should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??01:27
alphygtk-gnutella says I'm behind a firewall and I don't have a firewall so how do I fix this so I can use gtk-gnutella?01:27
Sepheebearkinda like having a ferrari as your main streetcar, all that speed but cant use it01:27
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Kyralalphy: are you behind a router?01:27
Squee-Dtheres another channel for this kind of banter. to reduce the noise in here to things related to issues/help with ubuntu01:27
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mweKyral: just right click a blocked connection in the events and it makes an exception or lets you configure your own rule01:28
alphyKyral, all I'm using is a cable modem01:28
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KyralSquee-D: I know01:28
Squee-DAlphy has no router.01:28
Squee-Dalphy I am assuming you have a PCI cable modem?01:28
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Vaske_CarI can not install Ubuntu, I got this error: [42014671.933000]  <0>KERNEL PANIC-Not syncing: ATTEMPTED TO KILL INIT!  What does this mean?01:28
Kyralalphy: then do sudo iptables -L and see if anything is there01:29
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ElitePeteSquee-D, PCI cable modem? never heard of such a thing..01:29
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sklavhow does one display the options currently set to hdparm01:29
rabbit1should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??01:29
Squee-DElitePete so?01:29
Kyralrabbit1: MBR01:29
HymnToLiferabbit1 > yes01:29
ElitePeteSquee-D, PCI cable modem? i'm almost 100% sure their is no such thing01:30
rabbit1Kyra1: why would you put it in the partition??01:30
HymnToLifeit's the most simple way and it will work just fine01:30
Squee-DElitePete well shock, you're wrong01:30
Kyralrabbit1: I said MBR01:30
alphySquee-d, I think so, It's hooked up by ethernet01:30
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Squee-Dwould it have killed you to google that before suggesting im wrong?01:30
Squee-Doh by ethernet?01:30
ElitePeteSquee-D, i just did.. didn't find any01:30
alphyKyral, what am I looking for???01:30
Squee-Dthere must be a box there somewhere01:30
rabbit1Kyra1: I know, thanks..  but I'm curious why it's possible to put it in the partition01:30
KyralSquee-D: he meant a PCI Ethernet Card01:30
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HymnToLiferabbit1 > it is possible01:31
Squee-DKyral i got that01:31
HymnToLifebut installing it on the MBR works fine too01:31
ElitePeteKyral, who meant pci ethernet card01:31
Kyralalphy: if it says nothing aside the tables, then the firewall ain't up01:31
Squee-Dso im thining the provider has a modem of some kind01:31
KyralElitePete: alphy01:31
rabbit1why???01:31
ForzaDoes programs i uninstall leave any traces in Linux?01:31
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ElitePeteSquee-D, found 0 pci cable modems ;-p01:31
progamercan anyone provide me a full shell command to get an mp4 codec or play ?01:31
KyralForza: it leaves behinds its configs in /home01:31
alphyKyral, then it's got to be a port problem, right?01:31
HymnToLiferabbit1 > for people who don't want to mess their MBR for whatever reason01:32
sklavprogamer,  check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:32
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Squee-DElitePete thats cause you dont want to see it01:32
HymnToLifebut I don't think it's your case for just a dual boot01:32
mweElitePete: follow the first link here: http://www.google.dk/search?q=cable+modem+pci01:32
Squee-DI had one in australia01:32
sklavthere is information on how to do what you want01:32
Squee-Dhttp://www.cable-modems.org/gallery/01:32
ForzaKyral, is it any program that cleans that out then?01:32
Kyralalphy: I'm thinking either the modem has a NAT Firewall or the ISP is just flat out blocking those ports01:32
rabbit1HmnToLife: haha, it still works though?01:32
KyralForza: you'd have to kill them manually01:32
HymnToLiferabbit1 > yes01:32
KyralForza: they are normally .<programname>01:32
alphyKyral, no way to fix it?01:32
ElitePetehttp://www.google.dk/search?q=cable+modem+pci01:32
ElitePeteall those are external01:32
Kyralalphy: no..sorry. CHannel Gnutella into a different port01:33
KyralElitePete: #ubuntu-offtopic01:33
rabbit1HmnToLife: okaay..01:33
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alphyKyral, change the port it listens to?01:33
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Kyralalphy: yah01:33
ForzaKyral, so if I use the Package Manager in Ubuntu to uninstall them they will leave some traces?01:33
intelikeywhat does this do ?    | sed s/':K'/': K'/g01:34
HymnToLifeForza > you can choose "remove completely" in synaptic01:34
KyralForza: They will leave behind the local config files in your homedir01:34
KyralHymnToLife: Purging doesn't take care of things in $HOME01:34
alphyKyral, when I do that do I need to set it to a certain number because there is a random setting and when I do that do I need to restart the app?01:34
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raphinkintelikey: this searches for `:K' in the output and replaces it with `: K'01:34
HymnToLifeKyral > then you can delete them manually01:34
Kyralalphy: I dunno...I don't use that app01:35
KyralHymnToLife: I know :P01:35
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os2macHaving problems with my sound after I updated to Dapper (I am running Kubuntu)01:35
intelikeyraphink but what is   K  in sed ?01:35
mweElitePete: I guess I'll just stop playing clever about something I don't know shite about :)01:35
os2macanyone able to help?01:35
raphinkintelikey: just a K,01:35
HymnToLifeos2mac > no01:35
intelikeyhmmmm  odd01:35
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raphinkintelikey: it searches for `K:' (sic)01:35
brownie17cna someone tell me what i should put in the command line if i want to use a different audio track while playing a dvd in mplayer01:35
HymnToLifebut if you tell us your soundcard model, maybe :p01:35
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raphinkintelikey: the K is not interpreted in this expression01:35
alphyKyral, do you use a P2P, I could always just get a new p2p program01:36
intelikeyreally01:36
ForzaI see, but I think i have a lot of old config files then, aint there any program that cleans up that so I dont have to do it manually?01:36
Kyralos2mac: I don't mean to sound like an ass, but this is the risk we who test dapper accept01:36
intelikeyok01:36
Kyralalphy: I use BitTorrent01:36
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alphyKyral, you can download music with that?01:36
wertycan anyone help me with my pen pad...01:36
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Stormx2Kyral: Only for legal stuff right? ;-)01:36
raphinkintelikey: for example, if sed finds :: amaroK: hello01:36
HymnToLifealphy > buy CDs...01:36
benplautSeveas: is your website down?01:37
KyralStormx2: Anime ;P01:37
raphinkintelikey: hmm stupid example, nm01:37
Squee-Dalphy im wondering a couple of things.. firstly. does the cable provider have a box in your house? at the other end of the ethernet cable? theres a good chance that that is a router.01:37
os2macI understand.. Kyral....01:37
raphinklol01:37
Stormx2yeah CDs give you a warm fuzzy feeling01:37
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Stormx2Kyral: Fansubs right ;-)01:37
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ElitePetemwe,  ?01:37
KyralStormx2: yah ;P01:37
Squee-Dalphy and secondly, it's always possible that your provider is deliberately blocking some P2P?01:37
brownie17somebody tell me what you type in to watch a dvd in mplayer with the other audio track01:37
alphysquee-d, I'm using insight, and when i had windows I had 3-4 different p2p apps01:37
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os2macfor the record it's onboard sound for a Dell Inspiron 8600 it idents as Intel 82801DB01:38
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Squee-Dis insight a provider?01:38
ElitePetealphy, you could get limewire? or azureus01:38
mweElitePete: I don't know if there is such a thing as a pci cable modem, so I'll stop trolling about it :)01:38
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ElitePetemwe, their is a PCI cable adaptor thats all i found01:38
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Squee-Dmwe/elitepete there is, i USED one01:38
alphyelitePete, I want Limewire, I know limewire but, I'm having problems getting java so I can run it01:38
intelikeyi was trying to find out why this filter wasn't working like i thought it should raphink        "   | grep -ne [[:alnum:] ]  | sed s/':K'/': K'/g  "01:38
sklavsee you all later01:38
HymnToLife!javadebs01:38
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy01:38
brownie17Madpilot, can you tell me what extension i use to make mplayer play a different audio track01:38
sklavim going to eat01:38
ElitePetealphy, java is ez on ubuntu do what obotu says01:39
ElitePeteSquee-D, yea? i bet the speeds/stability suck01:39
alphyelitepete, how do I get azureus?01:39
Squee-Dhttp://www.cable-modem.net/pi/docsiscm.html list here shows a great number of internal cable modems01:39
ElitePeteam i right?01:39
ElitePetealphy sudo apt-get install azureus01:39
Squee-DElitePete it was fine in the day01:39
apokryphos!tell alphy about azureus01:39
Kyralick Azureus01:39
intelikeyit was supposed to number the lines of the previous output raphink01:39
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apokryphosElitePete: no -- it's not in the repos.01:39
KyralBitTorrnado01:39
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ElitePeteapokryphos, it is i think you need to enable multiverse01:40
WebLOCHapokryphos, you're usually in the know, wanna help a brutha out with his lm-sens0ri0r problem ?01:40
HymnToLifeapo > just visit the link ubotu gave01:40
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WebLOCHElitePete, I never found azureus in repos01:40
mweSquee-D: all I get from that link are external ones though01:40
Shadyman!sources01:40
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:40
raphinkintelikey: weird01:40
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i know i didn't dl it, i apt-get'd it01:40
apokryphosElitePete: nope, it isn't :)01:40
Toma-!azureus01:40
ubotuazureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo01:40
Squee-DElitePete its not really an issue, the things exist, and from what i gleaned out of alphy, i was thinking he meant that the cable ran into his box... I misunderstood, but i wasn't wrong in considering the possibility. you were, and you really need to just leave it at that.01:40
Squee-Dmwe use search man01:40
Squee-DIm sure you guys are being blind to make me angry01:41
progamergstreamer0.8-faac_0.8.11-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'01:41
progamergstreamer0.8-faac_0.8.11-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'01:41
progamerwhat does that mean?01:41
apokryphosWebLOCH: I don't think I'd be able to -- I know nothing of them, really :)01:41
ElitePeteSquee-D, please grow up.. their is no such thing01:41
Squee-DUnder producat notes?01:41
Squee-Dproduct01:41
HymnToLifeprogamer > where did you get your package from ?01:41
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Stormx2Ack >.< Women01:41
WebLOCHapokryphos, damn fool, you dun sold me out01:41
progamerHymnToLife: Some website01:41
ElitePeteWebLOCH, you were right, azureus is not in apt-get but you do need multiverse enabled for the other stuff.01:42
HymnToLifethen you should tell the bloke who built it that his package doesn't work01:42
WebLOCHElitePete, yeah its a pain in the butt, but it keeps things stable during everyones learning phase01:42
progamerHymnToLife: ok thanks01:42
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i think i can help you with LM sensors01:42
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i got them working yesterday01:42
alphyelitepete, it says the package is not available, the exact same thing I get when I try to install java.  do I not have something set right to install these?01:42
ElitePetealphy, do this.01:43
ElitePeteone second.01:43
WebLOCHElitePete, if you do, you will be the daddy, I may need to undo everything thats been done so far, ill hold on till you sort out alphy01:43
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yanishello01:43
loststarHello01:43
ElitePetealphy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:43
HymnToLifeprogamer > and install the package from the official repos01:43
ElitePeteWebLOCH, their is one part in the wiki, that is wrong.01:43
ElitePeteWebLOCH, let me try to find it one sec01:43
progamerHymnToLife: I Couldn't find the official01:43
HymnToLife!repos01:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:43
yaniscan I add in fstab an usb hard disc to be mounted?or the hotplug module is loaded after mounting fstab?01:44
ElitePeteWebLOCH, do you have the wiki page link by chance01:44
dwhsixweird... anyone know where to find gtkpod-aac?  I've got multiverse enabled in synaptic, should it show up there?01:44
ElitePeteoh wait...01:44
ElitePete!sensors01:44
ubotuwell, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto01:44
loststarI just installed ubuntu 5.10 but the problem is  it starts up  i see the ubuntu screen and  it does some stuff then the screen goes blacfk with a with box in the corner01:44
alphyelitepete, I've done this, I have every option box checked in the repository section01:44
ElitePetealphy, ok one sec01:44
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WebLOCHElitePete, i followed it and some forum attempts, so bear in mind i may need to start from scratch and remove stuff, so err... my n00bism is about to show thru01:45
pk_volthow do i do a search for apt-get01:45
abarbacciahey all - if i built a module and its something.ko and i want it to be insmod'd at boot - where do i place it?01:45
alphyelitepete, I know I'm probably a bother, thanks for helping01:45
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Kyralpk_volt: apt-cache search <whatever>01:45
pk_voltthanks01:45
HymnToLifeprogamer > the package you're looking for is in Multiverse repo01:45
ElitePetealphy, no problem people have helped me tons01:45
russ_hello people :)01:45
senthilTimMagic, Hi i need your help01:45
ElitePeteWebLOCH, /etc/init.d/module-init-tools01:45
ElitePetedid you do that?01:45
rabbit1if you setup the network during the install, does the installer get more up to date packages from the internet??01:46
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ElitePeteit says to do it without sudo in the wiki, but you MUST do it with.01:46
senthilTimMagic, Are u busy ?01:46
ompaulhttp://www.cable-modem.net/pi/docsiscm.html see  DOCSIS 1.0 internal PCI card01:46
alphyelitePete, that's cool, I just like the idea of free source and wanna figure out how to use linux and get my comp back the way I like it01:46
WebLOCHElitePete, i did it as SUDO but yes01:46
ElitePetealphy, yea im trying to find something for you but it's eluding me01:46
ElitePeteWebLOCH, hmm01:47
russ_wow, this is a busy channel!  Anyone able to give me some advice on getting my iPod and Shuffle up and running under Ubuntu01:47
russ_?01:47
vincent_good night01:47
ElitePetecan anyone tell me where the repos file is again.01:47
ElitePeteso i can helps omone01:47
Madpilotruss_: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto01:47
WebLOCHruss_, checkout rhythmbox, it supports some iPod functionality like iTunes does01:47
KyralElitePete: /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
senthilompaul, Hi i need you help. If i minimize my windows its not in the bottom panel01:47
ElitePetety01:47
HymnToLifeI suggest using amaroK01:47
ompaulsenthil, what is its and why me?01:47
HymnToLifeway better than Rythmbox imo01:47
ElitePetealphy, i'm going to send you a file01:48
senthilompaul, I believe you can help me01:48
WebLOCHHymnToLife, I use BMP anyway (Beep Media Player)01:48
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dwhsixruss_: I'm having the same issues right now (getting an iPod to work on Ubuntu)... feel like I'm going around in circles...01:48
KyralElitePete: what a sources.list?01:48
senthilompaul, IF not no problem :(01:48
HymnToLife!ipod is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto01:48
ubotu...but ipod is already something else...01:48
ompaulsenthil, well your question is not clear can you give more context to me01:48
ElitePeteKyral, yea.01:48
alphyelitepete, ummm... okay01:48
WebLOCHdwhsix, the best idea is to get a better mp3 player :P01:48
ElitePetealphy, scratch that do this.01:48
KyralElitePete: don't have any sketchy repos01:48
Madpilot!ipod01:48
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto01:48
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ElitePeteKyral, i have only official repos01:49
KyralElitePete: Okay01:49
KyralElitePete: Just being cautous :P01:49
rabbit1if you setup the network during the install, does the installer get more up to date packages from the internet??01:49
leo_any other topic01:49
russ_Madpilot, lol.  I've got Rhythmbox playing music in another virtual screen.  But now that I look I see that it has recognised my 3G iPod :) Thanks01:49
dwhsixWebLOCH: I've thought of that (I may return the iPod).  What wouold you recommend?01:49
HymnToLiferabbit1 > no01:49
senthilompaul, Sure For example if i open firefox and minimise the window it should be in the bottom panel01:49
jgrievesanybody good with hotplug?01:49
HymnToLifebut you can update after the install is completed01:49
ElitePetealphy, do this01:49
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rabbit1HmnToLife: how?01:50
ElitePetesudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:50
ElitePeteand leave that window open01:50
loststarI just installed ubuntu 5.10 but the problem is  it starts up  i see the ubuntu screen and  it does some stuff then the screen goes blacfk with a with box in the corner01:50
rendihi how to remove this line from my browser "Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)"01:50
jgrievesI have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.01:50
jgrievesShould I be able to just load with the ohci_hcd module instead of ehci_hcd module?01:50
pk_volthow do I exit my wm01:50
Kyralpk_volt: whihc WM?01:50
dwhsixand btw HymnToLife, the IPodHowto page isn't as helpful as it might be...01:50
ompaulsenthil, start a terminal and type this command in it >> killall nautilus<< and if that does not work restart your session (I presume you are using gnome as this is #ubuntu)01:50
HymnToLiferabbit1 > change your soures.list by following the link ubotu will give and ru the Update manager01:50
WebLOCHdwhsix, Archos make some nice products01:50
HymnToLife!repos01:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:50
benplautanyone know how to get a gpg key for Sevea*s's repos?01:50
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benplautthe site is down01:50
pk_voltwell, i'm using gnome right now, how do I exit it01:50
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alphyelitepete, okay, it's open01:51
HymnToLifedwhsix > dunno, I never used it :p01:51
russ_Ok, so the 3G is working just nicely.  What about the shuffle do I just have to add it to my fstab?01:51
Kyralpk_volt: Should be on the Systme menu and logoff01:51
pk_voltic01:51
pk_voltthanks01:51
KyralI think01:51
Kyralits been a while since I used GNOME :D01:51
KyralI guess it works01:51
ElitePetealphy, now clear all text out of that file but don't save, then open this link and copy all this text into that file and save it, then open terminal and do sudo apt-get update01:51
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ElitePetealphy, http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/alphy.txt01:51
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ElitePetealphy, working?01:53
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sklavi got ubuntu working like a king01:53
WebLOCHdwhsix, the iRivier range are pretty good, I think they did the HP100 which my friend uses, its very nice01:53
sklavexcept for the overwieght lazy part its awesome now01:53
ompaulsklav, I rather when it is like an operating system myself :)01:53
alphyelitepete, it's doing something01:53
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sklavompaul, ;)01:54
ElitePetealphy, in terminal?01:54
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ElitePete!java01:54
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:54
SirKillalotcan I change the icons of all folders without having to change the whole icon theme i have installed?01:54
dwhsixWebLOCH: thanks, we've probably veered offtopic <grin>01:54
alphyelitepete, yeah, but I think it's stuck at 99%01:54
benplaut!freenx01:54
ubotufreenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX01:54
benplaut!bad bot01:54
ubotuno, you're a bad person benplaut!01:54
benplaut0_o01:54
ElitePetealphy, hold on.01:54
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WebLOCHdwhsix, no problem :D01:55
jgrievesI have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.01:55
jgrievesShould I be able to just load with the ohci_hcd module instead of ehci_hcd module?01:55
ossiehi , back again01:55
alphyelitePete, okay01:55
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ElitePetealphy mine is stuck at 99 also.01:55
ElitePetebut it should be ok01:55
WebLOCHanyone know what the difference between FreeNX and VNC is ?01:55
benplautWebLOCH: FreeNX is alot faster01:56
alphyelitePete, okay, what does that mean?01:56
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ossiethis time i have problems with my sound stopping when ever i seem to put any(any litle thing) load on the computer01:56
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yanisdoes all the scripts in the rcX.d dir are run one after the other?01:56
Squee-DWebLOCH no technical knowlege but freenx is really fast.01:56
ElitePetealphy, means the site might be down or something01:56
ElitePetealphy, here is the java page try doing what it says now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c24901:56
Squee-DWebLOCH but i've also found the freeenx windows client to be very buggy01:56
ElitePete99% [Connecting to public.planetmirror.com (203.16.234.90)] 01:56
sklavossie, look into hdparm01:56
ElitePeteis that what you have alphy ?01:56
sklavthat used to solve my issue01:56
ElitePetealphy, mine finished01:57
alphyelitePete, no I have 99% [Waiting for Headers] 01:57
WebLOCHSquee-D, benplaut cheersfor the info :)01:57
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ElitePetealphy, yea thats whati  meant mine is their now.01:57
ossiecheers sklav01:57
ossieman hdparm ???01:57
sklavtry the following01:57
WebLOCHhey ElitePete. should I have mentioned i use 686smp ?01:57
ElitePetealphy, try installing java now from that link above01:57
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peryhi01:57
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alphyelitePete, okay01:58
Viper550Hello!01:58
sklavsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda is that is your device01:58
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i'm no expert, i figured you had made the same mistake as me, since you didn't i really don't know how to help :\01:58
WebLOCHElitePete, ahh no problem01:58
WebLOCHAnyone fancy a Sensor challenge ?01:58
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iamsthithahey01:58
iamsthithaanyone use camcorders here?01:58
leo_hi01:58
iamsthithaminiDV stuff01:59
ossiewhat kind of setting should i use with it sklav01:59
ossie???01:59
Phocionhey all....successfully installed Ubuntu on my laptop. But it never detected my wireless card.  Should it have?..........01:59
leo_/01:59
leo_??01:59
HymnToLife!ndiswrapper01:59
ubotundiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:59
sklavi just told you to enable dma for starters01:59
alphyelitepete, it's downloading java now, thank you so freaking much01:59
sklavsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda is that is your device01:59
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Viper550Who uses IRSSI? I do now!01:59
ElitePetealphy, no problem do you have aim or msn? i can add you for future questions01:59
jgrievesI have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.02:00
apokryphosViper550: you have my sympathies02:00
leo_sudo passwd root02:00
jgrievessorry02:00
PhocionHymn: Yea I saw that, but I would like to actually install native linux drivers02:00
mcjerryiamsthitha: i us a dvi camcorder via firewire, but don't know if i can help02:00
peryhow i can if my wireless card SMCWCBT-G (pcmcia) accept mode monitor?????02:00
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Viper550aka Apokryphos uses IRSSI, right?02:00
alphyelitepete, I have msn, my email there is john_skow@hotmail.com02:00
apokryphosViper550: aka: good luck02:00
apokryphosViper550: tend to generally use konversation/kvirc02:01
iamsthithamcjerry, well I'm trying to get my video onto my computer.. trying to use kino.. but no luck :\02:01
Phocionwhere would I start to go about installing linux drivers for a built-in broadcom wifi card???02:01
sklavany better ossie ?02:01
Viper550Also, who uses e17?02:01
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ElitePetealphy, ok added02:01
bashed__hi02:01
ossiei looked at man, but i dont see what i should do02:02
bashed__ok..02:02
sklavossie, if you man hdparm for more advanced option make sure not to use the experiemental or "dangerous options02:02
sklavossie do the following02:02
ossiecheers02:02
sklavsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in a terminal02:02
bashed__so my eth0 connection is setup with dhcp, and it renews every once in a while, wiping all the dns information02:02
bashed__how can i prevent it from renewing all the time?02:02
ossiecool dma is on02:02
sklavbashed_, its dhcp you cant02:02
SirKillalotcan I change the icons of all folders without having to change the whole icon theme i have installed?02:02
sklavtry playing some music now02:02
Viper550I was able to compile E17 from CVS on Breezy.02:03
ossiesklav, i was also getting bad disk performace02:03
senthilompaul, I did R&D and fixed my issue02:03
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dwhsixis there a breezy-extras like hoary-extras?02:03
senthilompaul, Sorry for offending you02:03
sklavossie, then something like the following might help02:03
jgrievesdoes ubuntu use usb.usermap file?02:03
iamsthithamcjerry, what do you use to get video into the computer?02:03
sklavsudo hdparm -d1 -X66  /dev/hda in a terminal02:03
jgrievesthe usb.usermap file doesn't seem to be around, i mean its in the share02:03
ompaulsenthil, you did not offend, I just found it funny that someone actually thought I would be useful02:03
sklavbut its important to know what type of hdd you have02:03
jgrievesbut doese ubuntu even probe for i twith hotplug02:04
Shadymanwhere do you get kernel source?02:04
Viper550e17 is so wicked!02:04
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jgrievesfor it with hotplug02:04
mcjerryiamsthitha: Kino02:04
ossiecheers02:04
senthilompaul, :-)02:04
ossieill save them commands02:04
iamsthithahmm02:04
mcjerryiamsthiha: how do you have it connected?02:04
iamsthithathru the firewire card02:04
ossieseems to have fixed it02:04
sklavossie, you can add them to /etc/hdparm.conf once your positive everything is up to speed02:04
sklavand to test the speed / performance try02:05
ossieill have to learn how to map the drives at boot, and then set the mode02:05
ossieu read my mind sklav02:05
AJ359i'm trying to get my netgear ma111 to install and i'm trying to install linux-wlan i've gotten as far as unpacking the tar ball in /usr/src and i have the kernel source but when i try and use the "make config" in terminal it says "bash: make: command not found" i tried opening the configure file from the gui and running it in terminal it can't run properly b/c for almost everything it wants to do it says permission denied. any help at a02:05
sklavsudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda02:05
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bashed__how can i find out my gateway IP address?02:05
iamsthithamcjerry, I can remote control my camcorder from Kino.. but when I hit capture.. it just starts some countdown and doesnt do anything02:05
sklavwill give some speed tests02:05
sklavnot 100% accurate but you will see a difference02:05
b_e_n_zbashed_, route -n02:05
sklavfaster the better ;)02:05
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mcjerryiamsthitha: then you are further along than I am......I get serious lag, not smooth video.....haven't gotten it to remote yet02:06
ossiesklav, where would i mount hdrives at boot up?02:06
sklav?02:06
sklavmount02:06
bashed__b_e_n_z, is there a difference between leaving the gateway field in an interface blank, or putting 0.0.0.0?02:06
iamsthithamcjerry, heh.. at least you have video02:06
sklav/etc/fstab02:06
ossieyes they dont auto mount02:06
sklavto mount them on boot02:07
ShadymanAJ359: sudo apt-get install dev-essentials02:07
sklavsome readinw ill be required02:07
ShadymanAJ359: I think that's the one02:07
ossieok02:07
sklavare u suing the live cd/02:07
mcjerryiamsthitha, the bottom row of buttons av/c capture etc just flicker for me here02:07
iamsthithaby the way... mcjerry what version of kino do you have?02:07
AJ359Shadyman: will it work if i don't have the internet on it?02:07
sklavim dislexic it seems02:07
ShadymanAJ359: No.02:07
ossieno , i added a driver for a ide cardf i have, and now mount my drives each boot up02:07
bobbydcan I get firefox 1.5 under ubuntu?02:07
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loststarok just installed ubuntu when it starts normally  i see the ubuntu screen and the progress bar after a few secounds i get a black screen with a white cursor  blinking in the corner i tried starting in recovery mode and using startx  but all i get is a black screen02:07
ShadymanAJ359: Can you plug it in via ethernet, or something?02:07
AJ359Shadyman: it's an old old dell laptop and it doesn't even have an ethernet port :/02:08
sklavdamn the wife is calling ;)02:08
mcjerryiamsthitha: is 0.8.0 on dapper install02:08
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ossieok cheers anyway sklav02:08
sklavhehe02:08
AJ359Shadyman: anyother way around it?02:08
sklavossie you need to add the drives to /etc/fstab02:08
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sklavto automount them for you02:08
WebLOCHYou all loves the sensors02:09
iamsthithamcjerry, hmm.. I have 0.8.0 as well02:09
sklavim not sure if automount is default on ubuntu02:09
sklavits another program that does it02:09
martmanim having some mouting problems of my own02:09
ShadymanAJ359: I'm sure you could download it to CD or something fun like that, but I don't know how.02:09
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Forza Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces?02:09
iamsthithaBRB02:09
martmani edited my fstab and chmod a+rw it02:10
martmanbut still cant mount as normal user02:10
sklavregistry is evil and sucks02:10
Shadymansklav: I agree.02:10
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Shadymansklav: rm *registry*02:10
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Shadymansklav: ;)02:10
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lightbrightShadyman: hello shady character02:10
Forzasklav, should i take it as a no on my question?02:10
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jgrievesdoes ubuntu run usb.usermap files?02:10
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jgrievesi.e. can i just copy the usb.usermap file over?02:10
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Shadymanlightbright: Hey. *sneaks some more*02:11
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sklavmartman, try adding an entry like this is /etc/fstab /dev/fd0        /media/devicename  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       002:11
glickexcuse me does anyone know how to create playlists in gtkpod?02:11
klaxia1i wonder if anyone can help me02:11
glicki cant figure it out?02:11
lightbrightShadyman: :P02:11
klaxia1i can't get sound to work when playing flash in firefox02:11
DelvienAnyone use a Philips Gogear MP3 player here????02:11
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lightbrightglick: never ever ever ever givup - Winston Churchill02:11
sklavwhy use a registry when you have /etc/*02:11
Shadymanexactly.02:12
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WebLOCHlm-sensor helpz anyone?02:12
klaxia1has anyone ever had problems getting sound to work for flash media in firefox?02:12
Delvienwebloch whats your question02:12
glicki can create a list02:12
glickbut how can i add songs to it?02:12
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sklavklaxia1, i use the flash from macromedia so i have no issue02:12
WebLOCHDelvien, I can link you to the post i just made on forums if thats any good?  It explains whats gone on02:12
sklavgplflash is buggy02:12
Delviensure02:12
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WebLOCHDelvien, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10870702:13
sklavok im out02:13
lightbrightglick: just relax02:13
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sklavlater all02:13
klaxia1sklav: i'm using the nonfree flash player version02:13
mcjerryiamsthitha: do you have the file permissions set correctly for /dev/raw1394 and /dev/dv139402:13
glickrelaz?02:13
lightbrightglick: you are very anxoius02:13
sklavthen the issue might be with your sound card setup02:13
iamsthithamcjerry, I'm running as root.. so I think I'm fine02:13
klaxia1sklav: so run alsaconf?02:13
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klaxia1sklav: sound works for everything else02:13
DrSpinhey all -- I'm running apache2 and I'm trying to get PHP to work with Server Side Includes -- they work fine with .shtml how can I make it work with PHP as well?02:13
sklavprobably02:13
iamsthithamcjerry, I dont have a /dev/dv1394 tho02:14
Delvienwebloch does your motherboard have sensors?02:14
sklavmy sndcard works out of the box so call me lazy but i only purchase hardware that is known to work on linux02:14
iamsthithawait. .yes I do02:14
sklavhum02:14
klaxia1sklav: mine works for everything else02:14
b_e_n_zWebLOCH, you ran sensors-detect?02:14
klaxia1sklav: just flash in firefox plays without sound02:14
sklavweird02:15
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sklavinstead of using the nonfree deb02:15
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jenda-zZzHey, is there a reason my monitor always turned off after an hour of idleness and now it doesn't?02:15
sklavtry the macromedia verison02:15
WebLOCHDelvien, b_e_n_z, as far as I know, my mobo does have sensors, the BIOS outputs the info,  b_e_n_z yeah I did run sensors detect02:15
klaxia1sklav: you mean download from the macromedia site?02:15
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toya_hey people, how do you set default programs for opening certain files02:15
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Delvienwebloch have you looked at the cpu0 info?02:15
sklavwell download from firefox site02:15
iamsthithasweeeet!02:15
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klaxia1sklav: i've been using the ubuntu one for all my other computers with no trouble02:15
jenda-zZztoya_: right click, propertios02:15
iamsthithamcjerry, I got it to work02:15
sklavuninstall flash-nonfree02:15
sklavand then go to a site with macromdeia flash02:16
klaxia1sklav: i'd rather stay on the ubuntu version02:16
martmansklav still no luck02:16
sklavit will ask you to get plugin and install it02:16
Delvienwebloch i forget where it is , but a kde program called ksysguard helped me out when i was getting the info on my CPU02:16
toya_ok thx02:16
klaxia1sklav: there are lots of other people who have this problem with ubuntu i guess...i've been searching google02:16
WebLOCHDelvien, not sure how i would get cpu info, ?02:16
klaxia1sklav: i tried all their suggestions but i still can't get it to work02:16
mcjerryiamsthitha: pm ok?02:16
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sklavklaxia1, maybe the issue is with the package02:16
sklavas im not using it and i dont have the issue02:17
klaxia1sklav: maybe, but i have several other computers working fine with it02:17
iamsthithamcjerry, sure02:17
sklavbut there are more talent people here who might have a better solution02:17
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klaxia1sklav: no prob, thanks for trying02:17
jenda-zZzCan anyone think of something that has to be done for a monitor to turn off automatically after and hour of idleness?02:17
klaxia1anyone else have any ideas?02:17
sklavi dont know to be honest try dpkg --reconfigure flash-nonfree02:17
Delvienwebloch thats what i dont remember, ... but i run on a laptop so i know its different for me, do a search of your filesystem for CPU02:17
sklavmaybe somehting screwed up on the install02:17
airmikeyim trying to compile pekwm but i get this error after typing ./configure ... Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm02:18
klaxia1sklav: i'll try but i already did ;)02:18
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sklavsorry then as im out of ideas02:18
sklavsame here going to eat and watch tv02:18
sklavi speak to you all later02:18
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mcjerryiamsthitha: i pm'd u, did you get it, if not, are you registered/02:19
martmani still keep getting "could not enter folder" when i try to mount a partiton as a user02:20
martmani edited my fstab02:20
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toya_martman02:20
toya_where is the folder?02:20
WebLOCHDelvien, cat /proc/cpuinfo worked, but it doesnt show me any temp info02:20
toya_'/media/windows?02:20
martmantoya_  /media/hdb102:20
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toya_toya_, try this 'sudo chmod ugo+rx /media/hdb1'02:21
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toya_is it a windows ntfs partition?02:21
ShadymanThis apt has super cow powers.02:21
martmanyeah, it is02:21
toya_ok yeah02:21
Shadymantry /media/hda102:21
Shadymanor whatever02:21
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BudaHGnome support superkaramba?02:22
pashawmartman,   you should have replaced defaults  with -> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000  for that ntfs mount02:23
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martmanim still getting the same error02:23
toya_oh02:24
toya_martman, did you restart yet?02:24
toya_martman, don't need to, try 'mount a' i think02:24
pashawmartman,   did you umount it and mount again AFTER editing fstab02:24
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martmanyeah, i did umouny iy02:25
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toya_where is the trash folder located at?02:25
pashawmartman,  humor us   umount it again  then type mount  to make sure its not02:25
martmank02:25
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WebLOCHDelvien, did you get my last message?02:26
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ossieguys how do i use this command to specify the version of GCC im using when compiling a app02:27
ossieMAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4"02:27
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bashed_ok i fixed the disconnection issue02:27
bashed_i still have the google issue02:27
sorush20has anyone here insalled kde but there are gnome dialogues?02:27
WebLOCHossie,  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-x.x02:27
WebLOCHcheck the path to make sure thats correct02:28
ossiecool02:28
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ossiecheers02:28
bashed_what should the default gateway be in a dsl connection, ppp0 or eth0?02:28
ossieso i set a enviroment vairable for it?02:28
martmanstill nothing...wow....02:28
WebLOCHossie, yeah but its temporary02:28
martmani heard that things get screwy when you setup root.....this the case?02:28
chaoticgeekok, I screwed up my firefox02:28
WebLOCHossie, im pretty sure its vaporized as soon as you close th terminal you typed it in, so make sure you use that terminal to do anything else02:28
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pashawmartman,   OMg your using root02:29
ossieconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check , any ideas what this is all about?>02:29
Stormx2My friend is going to install ubuntu. He gets his internet through USB (usb router), will it work OK?02:29
chaoticgeekI was trying to update to the newest one and so I just tried copying everything to place where firefox was /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox but it does not work now02:29
ShadymanStormx2: Sure.02:29
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martmani know, i know, having a root account on a linux box....pretty radical i know, but i felt brave at the time02:30
WebLOCHossie, a sanity check is a check against something you KNOW is true. if a sanity check fails, the logic of the system is wrong in some way, in your case it will be specific to what you are trying to compile02:30
martmanjust wondering...02:30
chaoticgeekit says there are too many levels levels of symbolic links02:30
pashawmartman,   if you know enough about Ubuntu that you "thik" you need root   then you can fix this error easy02:30
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chaoticgeeklol Shadyman02:30
ossieok cheers, im trying to compile kiso,. a tool for converting isos02:31
chaoticgeekanyone?02:31
WebLOCHDont suppose anyone else wants to pick up where i Delvien left off with my lm-sensor problem?02:31
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martmanahuh.....thats great....02:31
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toya_Stormx2, last time i tried, no02:31
Stormx2Damn02:31
Stormx2>.<02:31
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Stormx2Any other thoughts?02:32
toya_Stormx2, i asked my friend i think what they said was that there's no usb support for internet on linux02:32
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Stormx2Ah nuts02:32
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Shadyman!kernel-source02:33
ubotuShadyman: I haven't a clue02:33
Shadymanhrm02:33
Shadyman!kernel02:33
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Stormx2 /msg ubotu word02:33
Shadymannifty.02:33
Stormx2!bork Shadyman02:33
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Stormx202:33
Stormx2^_^02:33
jgrievesDie hotpllug!02:33
Shadymanbwahaha02:33
toya_lol02:33
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jgrievesdoes anyone have any hotplug experience?02:34
jgrievesbeen fighting this for quite some time02:34
Stormx2Anyone else know anything about USB internet on linux?02:34
Shadymanjgrieves: Yes. If you put a knife into a hot plug, you go ZAP.02:34
chaoticgeekcan anyone help me with firefox? I tried upgrading to FF1.5 but it failed02:34
jgrievesShadyman ha02:34
Shadymanchaoticgeek: Long story.02:34
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Shadyman!firefox1502:34
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org02:34
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jgrievesShadyman you know how to load a different driver than one hotplug uses02:34
Shadymannopw :)02:35
WebLOCHAnyone want to try and solve my lm-sensor problem02:35
Shadymanand I guess i broke ubotu, I can't get his PMs02:35
jgrievesusb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5102:35
jgrievesright there02:35
jgrievesi dont want to use ehci_hcd02:35
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jgrievesuse ohci_hcd instead!02:36
jgrieveshotplug uses so many scripts02:36
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jgrievesyeah that's what i thought, quiet everyone down02:37
jgrievesBAH humbug02:37
Shadymanyep[02:37
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jgrievesgeez02:38
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Wilfcan you get the java runtime off apt?02:39
WebLOCHWilf no02:39
Wilf:(02:39
paulproteus|lapt!java02:39
randabisactually you can02:39
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:39
paulproteus|lapt!javadebs02:39
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy02:39
WebLOCHrandabis, you can ?02:39
paulproteus|laptMultiverse!02:40
randabisWebLOCH yeah, just not in the standard repos02:40
Shadyman!source02:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.02:40
WebLOCHrandabis, well by that same logic, you can also obtain the secret to all life. just not in the standard repos :P  Although it's valid, I think he needed to be pointed at a solution lol.02:40
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randabisWebLOCH which would be !javadebs :)02:41
WebLOCHindeed02:41
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WebLOCHrandabis, i just started prattling before helping, im better at prattling than helping02:41
pashawWebLOCH,  agreed02:41
WebLOCHpashaw, haha cracka!02:42
pashawWebLOCH,   :P02:42
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pashawWebLOCH,  im crabby  i had to frikkin  work today02:42
WebLOCHpashaw, i had to try to make up with ex today, didnt go smooth, work as bad then?02:42
pashawWebLOCH, gunna play CS  so i can stab someone in the face02:42
WebLOCHhaha02:43
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Shadymanhmm... is an AMD Sempron considered 686?02:44
randabisI like prattling02:45
WebLOCHrandabis, so do i, but i like having working temperature sensors more02:45
randabissempron is usually a k702:45
randabissometimes they are k8 derivatives02:45
cafuegoShadyman: k702:46
randabisdepends02:46
ShadymanFuego!02:46
cafuegoif you have a k8 one, run k7 anyway02:46
randabisyeah02:46
ossieguys anyone got a link for good upto date repositorys please02:46
Shadyman!repos02:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:46
cafuegoCoz Ubuntu64 isn't qute there yet, like PPC.02:46
Shadyman!easysource02:47
ubotuhmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:47
randabisthough running a platform specific kernel on a modern processor really makes little performance difference02:47
Shadymango there, ossie02:47
ossiethank you :)02:47
Shadymanrandabis: True, but hey.02:47
Shadymanrandabis: Any kind of specific extensions will help :)02:47
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poimen!!02:47
ubotu??02:47
cafuegorandabis: Indeed, but '386' looks retarded on an Athlon64 ;-)02:47
ShadymanROFL02:47
Shadymancafuego: Exactly!02:47
poimenI have a 333Mhz PC in my hands02:47
randabiscafuego :)02:47
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Shadymanso how do I upgrade my install? with Synaptic?02:48
poimenIt loads windows me02:48
Shadymanpoimen: Windows ME must die.02:48
cafuegopoimen: How much ram does it have?02:48
poimenIt will be a good idea to put ubuntu / xfce in it right?02:48
randabisI'm using windows :/02:48
randabishaha02:48
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poimenI dont kwon02:48
poimenjunt handed to me lets see02:48
poimenI think it has 256 or more02:48
cafuegopoimen: In that case it'll run xubuntu very well.02:49
lightbrightcan Ubuntu be affected by emails that contain phising and trojans?  If I read all my emails, can I be affected by key loggers etc?02:49
Shadymancafuego: O RLY?02:49
lightbrightcafuego: any ideas?02:49
randabiscafuego heck it would probably even run kubuntu...my 450mhz p3 with 192 mb of ram does hehe02:49
poimenxubuntu?02:50
cafuegorandabis: Yes, but there's a difference between "running" and 'running well'.02:50
Shadymanheh02:50
cafuegopoimen: xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE.02:50
Shadyman!xfce02:50
ubotumethinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/02:50
paulproteus|laptlightbright: No, unless those key loggers/trojans are specifically written for Linux.02:50
paulproteus|laptAnd even then, perhaps not.02:50
factotumthere is also a difference between running and crashing, in that case anything will work02:50
Shadymanwhoa02:50
randabiscafuego I would venture to say it runs well02:50
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt: ok02:50
paulproteus|laptlightbright: As for phishing, you should always be careful of phishing.02:50
pashawlightbright,  no   neither can windows unless your email client auto opens attachments02:50
sproingielightbright: there's no viruses in the wild that target linux.  if you run a webserver, there's some active threats.  your email is pretty safe.02:50
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt: is there a way to check my system for such things?02:51
toya_what do you guys use for rss?02:51
paulproteus|laptlightbright: Phishing is emails that claim to be from your bank but aren't.02:51
cafuegorandabis: I have a 350MHz iMac with 128Mb that just can't.02:51
paulproteus|lapttoya_: Thunderbird.02:51
pashawlightbright, or gets redirected by html   linux is still safe there02:51
lightbrightpashaw: when reading an email, does that automiatically open the atttachment?02:51
sproingietoya_: sage02:51
pashawlightbright,  NO02:51
paulproteus|laptlightbright: No, it doesn't automatically open attachments.02:51
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt:  when reading an email, does that automiatically open the atttachment?02:51
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lightbrightok thanks02:51
toya_does sage let you put them on your desktop?02:51
paulproteus|laptSure thing, lightbright.02:51
pashawlightbright,  opps banged keyboard didnt mean to use caps02:51
HymnToLifelightbright > only Outlook is stupid enough to do it :p02:51
lightbrightcause I read all emails. but never save or open attachments!  so should I be safe?02:51
Shadymanlightbright: Yes, unless you follow links that claim to be your bank or something02:52
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt: is there a way to check my system for such things?02:52
Shadyman:)02:52
sproingietoya_: sage is a very thin rss/atom client for firefox, it renders feeds and newsletter sheets in firefox, that's about it02:52
lightbrightShadyman: ok ty02:52
randabiscafuego yeah I don't know why it runs it so well...I do have to watch how many things I'm running at once though02:52
toya_o02:52
lightbrightpashaw: I use root kit hunter, is that enough?02:52
sproingietoya_: very few bells and whistles, but it works well anyway02:52
paulproteus|laptlightbright: Thunderbird will tell you if it suspects an email is a phishing attempt.02:52
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt:  I use root kit hunter, is that enough?02:52
paulproteus|laptlightbright: "Phishing" is just another word for "fraud", okay?02:52
paulproteus|laptYou can't really automatically check for fraudulent emails.02:53
toya_sproingie, i want something on my desktop02:53
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lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt: I use evolution!  Should I use thunderbvord instead?  Is thunderbord more safe?02:53
paulproteus|laptlightbright: Calm down.02:53
sproingietoya_: then sage probably isn't for you02:53
owner_hello?02:53
Shadymanlightbright: Yes.02:53
owner_can i get some help?02:53
paulproteus|laptlightbright: Evolution is okay, too.02:53
lightbrightis thunderboird more secure than evolution?02:53
HymnToLifephishing... I always wonder how anyone can be dumb enough to fall into it02:53
cafuegotoya_: gdesklets have something of the sort02:53
Shadymanlightbright: Probably.02:53
paulproteus|laptlightbright: But always be careful about phishing.02:53
Shadymanowner_: Hi.02:53
owner_can someone tell me how to get KDE for linux?02:53
pashawlightbright,   your too paranoid     if the email looks fishy  just close it02:53
toya_sproingie, why is ppl keep saying that, why don't they say then ____ is for you02:53
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Shadymanpashaw: Heh.. phishy02:53
HymnToLifeowner_ > sudo apt-get install kubuntu_desktop02:53
paulproteus|laptowner_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:53
pashawShadyman,  :P02:54
Vaske_CarI can not install Ubuntu, I got this error: [42014671.933000]  <0>KERNEL PANIC-Not syncing: ATTEMPTED TO KILL INIT! What does this mean?02:54
lightbrightpaulproteus|lapt: is thunderbird more secure than evolution?02:54
funkyHatHymnToLife, some phishing attempts I've recieved have been VERY convincing)02:54
owner_sudo?02:54
owner_i'm kinda of new to ubuntu =p02:54
sproingielightbright: there are very occasional exploitable vulnerabilities in gecko that thunderbird could run afoul of, but if you keep javascript turned off, you're unlikely to see one02:54
sproingietho there was the libpng thing a while back02:54
owner_started today02:54
HymnToLifeowner_ > then read the links ubotu will give you02:54
HymnToLife!kdr02:54
ubotuHymnToLife: Syntax error in line 102:54
HymnToLife!kde02:54
ubotuI heard kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/02:54
owner_ok02:54
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owner_also02:55
sproingielightstar: virus writers are going after the easy target, and that's windows.  linux is about as virus free as you can imagine02:55
lightbrightsproingie: how do i turn javascript off?02:55
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sproingielightbright: it's off by default.02:55
owner_I'm trying to get window programs to work in Linux.. can anyone help me with that also?02:55
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Shadyman!bork02:55
ubotuShadyman: No idea02:55
lightbrightsproingie: and in evolution too?  tits off?02:55
HymnToLife!wine02:55
sproingielightbright: i don't even know whether evo has an option to turn it on02:56
Shadymanowner_: Get "wine"02:56
HymnToLife!wine02:56
owner_i tried02:56
owner_to get it02:56
owner_but didn't work.. X_x02:56
HymnToLifethere might be a Howto somewhere02:56
pashawfrom memory, wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.02:56
bobbydhow do I swap which dektop is loaded when I type startx? I want to start xubuntu-desktop...02:56
Shadyman!enter02:56
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!02:56
ilba7rowner wine need some tweeking try crossover office easier to install stuff on but you will pay for the service02:56
lightbrightsproingie: ok thanks02:56
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HymnToLife somebody said wine was a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.02:56
Shadymanoh wow.02:57
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mcjerryssppshhh ssspppphhh02:57
owner_also02:58
owner_how can I run .BIN?02:58
toya_./ filename.bin02:58
sproingieowner_: chmod +x whatever.bin; ./whatever.bin02:58
owner_./filename.bin?02:58
toya_assuming you're in the same folder as the file02:58
HymnToLifeowner_ > yes, no space after the /02:59
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toya_oh, my bad02:59
owner_so if i want to run windows Media player02:59
owner_for linux02:59
owner_it would be02:59
starpausei'm @ the terminal and want to launch and executable, but return to the terminal and keep using it rather than locking it up ... i can't remember what that is called or how to do it =\02:59
Shadyman!enter02:59
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!02:59
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toya_anyone wanna help me setting up my printer? its an hp120002:59
HymnToLife!printer03:00
ubotuprinter is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org03:00
aidehuaowner_: I think the "enter" advice is directed at you, BTW :)03:00
pashawowner_,   stop using multiple lines  or your going to get ignored03:00
traeheh03:00
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sproingiestarpause: stick a & after the command03:00
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sproingiestarpause: i.e. somecommand &03:00
owner_=P03:00
traetrying to get my SWIII ROTS video playing under Breezy03:00
owner_I don't under sntad it.. =[03:00
starpausesproingie,  thanks man =) i knew it was something like that!03:00
owner_*understand03:00
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owner_if i wanted to run windowsmediainstaller.bin it would be /windowsmediainstaller.bin in the terminal?03:01
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funkyHatWindows Media Player for linux?03:01
HymnToLifeowner_ > don't forget the dot03:02
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toya_HymnToLife, its supported, but the problem is not auto detected03:02
Shadymanowner_: ./windowsmediainstaller.bin03:02
HymnToLife./filename.bin03:02
ilba7rowner if i were you i would look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation03:02
HymnToLifetoya_ > there must be a howto somewhere03:02
GoRoDeKhi all, i have a slight problem installing vlc (videolan client) on drapper (libdbus-1-1 dependencies). anyone knows any workaround?03:03
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traeI can get mplayer to play it.  I can't get mplayer to play full screen.  I can get totem and gxine to play the intro screen and titles full-screen, but I can't get them to play the actual movie.03:04
traefun fun fun03:04
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randabisi'm updating my psp03:04
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toya_hmm found it03:04
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owner_./windowsmediainstaller.bin no such file or directory?03:06
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papoALGUNA DE MAIPU03:07
Shadymanspeaka engrish?03:08
Shadymaner03:08
owner_./windowsMediainstaller.bin dont work.. no file found03:08
Shadymanpapo: speak english please?03:08
Shadymanowner_: Are you in the directory that it's in?03:08
papoDO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH03:08
owner_its in my desktop03:09
Shadymanowner_: cd ~/Desktop03:09
pashawpapo,   spanish?03:09
Shadymanpapo: Espan~ol?03:09
owner_cd ~/desktop ./windowsmediainstaller.bin03:09
Shadymanor not.03:09
pashawShadyman, why you scare him away03:10
Shadymanowner_: put an enter between the desktop and the ./03:10
owner_like that Shady?03:10
Shadymanowner_: Or a ;03:10
pashawowner_,   why are you installing that?03:10
Shadymanowner_: and Desktop is capital D.03:10
ilba7r!es03:10
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:10
owner_cd ~/Desktop:./windowsmediainstaller.bin?03:10
Shadymanpashaw: I never bothered to ask.03:10
Shadymancd ~/Desktop; ./windowswhatever.bin03:11
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Shadymanand.. owner_: There are numerous, just-as-good linux apps that Aren't spyware, just so you know.03:11
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funkyHatIs there actually a bin for installing Windows Media Player on linux?03:12
cyphasecan someone point me to a good utility/tutorial for making debs03:12
cyphasefunkyHat, *Window* Media Player03:12
cyphase:)03:12
ShadymanfunkyHat: I sure hope not.03:12
cyphaseWindows*03:12
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funkyHatcyphase, what do you want it for? if it's for personal stuff, you probably want checkinstall03:13
owner_yea there is03:13
owner_I found one on the mediaplayer site =P03:13
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funkyHatagain03:13
cyphasefunkyHat, i want to make a deb i can distribute03:13
funkyHatowner_, can you link us to the site you got it from?03:13
Wilfdoes breezy have an inbuilt firewall?03:13
Shadymanwilf: No.03:13
cyphaseWilf, Firestarter is good03:14
owner_I'm new to linux, so I don't really know many programs for linux, so I check windows media player03:14
ULffuntuwilf: webmin firewall03:14
ardchoilleI will have $500 on the first of Januray that is pure pocket cash. me thinks me wants to build a new box :)03:14
ardchoilleI'd love to build something that can easily play Half Life or Far Cry. What kind of specs do I need?03:14
WebLOCHardchoille, get a Pentium D 83003:14
funkyHatWilf, as standard, ubuntu (and most linuxes) have secure networking rules, if everything works, you probably don't need to change a thing03:14
Shadymanardchoille: For Half life? Pentium 200mhz.03:14
owner_owner@owner:~$ cd ~/Desktop; ./windowsmediainstaller.bin = didnt work03:14
MasterTsunami200 mhz lol :|03:15
Shadymanowner: Keep in mind that linux is CaSe SenSiTiVe.03:15
b_e_n_zardchoille, i heard farcry runs great on a 600MHz pentium i.e. xbox03:15
ardchoilleP 200Mhz ?03:15
Shadymanardchoille: For halflife, yes, that was the requirement.03:15
cyphaseCan someone point me to a good utility/tutorial for making .deb's03:15
owner_ooh..03:15
Shadyman!deb03:15
pashawardchoille,  $500   hope you have something good to use as a base half of that 500 will have to be video card03:15
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:15
WebLOCHb_e_n_z, everything runs great on an xbox, its insane how well dedicated architecture works03:15
MasterTsunamiardchoille, http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/03:15
owner_to use to windows03:15
Wilfmy Pentium II 350 with 512mb of ram runs windows xp pro great.03:15
ardchoillepashaw: yes, that's what I was afraid of03:15
MasterTsunamithere yo ugo, a $500 decent gaming rig :|03:15
ShadymanWebLOCH: I'm so linuxing my xbox.03:15
ilba7rcyphase there are several on the wiki and the forums03:15
funkyHatowner_, also bear in mind that you can use the TAB key to autocomplete filenames if you enter the first couple of characters03:16
pashawardchoille,   far cry is no joke  it eats video cards03:16
WebLOCHShadyman, its really easy, im a bit of an xbox don.03:16
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cyphaseShadyman, i know how to *install* deb's. i need to know how to *make* them03:16
cyphaseilba7r, thanx03:16
GTroyanyone have any problems with xmms/beep's sound being less than superb after a while?03:16
ilba7rcyphase welcomed03:16
owner_it says "permission denied"03:16
MarcNcyphase: debian.org's developers section has good authoritative info.03:16
WebLOCHGTroy, you need to be much more specific03:16
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GTroyfemale vocals now sound like crap03:17
cyphaseMarcN, thanx03:17
GTroybut amorok sounds fine03:17
WebLOCHcrackly?03:17
GTroyyeah03:17
ardchoillepashaw: thanks for the heads-up03:17
owner_ShadyMan:> It says "Permission Denied"03:17
funkyHatGTroy, no03:17
funkyHatlol03:17
Shadymanowner_: Great :)03:17
Wilfhehe this reminds me of a prodigy song.03:17
Wilfi'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter03:17
Shadymanowner_: Maybe it means ditch windows and get something else? ;)03:17
WebLOCHGTroy, check the pre-amp and equalisers and the master volume, its probably one of them set too high03:17
GTroyI thought it was my amp at first03:17
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GTroyah ok03:18
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owner_=P03:18
owner_alright..03:18
pashawardchoille,   do you already have a 2.4G+ cpu?03:18
SirGrokHello peoples.03:18
Shadymanowner_: It means you have to sudo03:18
owner_you know any other Shadyman?03:18
Corrupteri have a bad file on my desktop that won't delete03:18
owner_sudo? what is that?03:18
Shadymanowner_: that gives you root power.03:18
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SirGrokHello peoples.Super user Do03:18
poningru!font03:18
ubotuponingru: Do they come in packets of five?03:18
owner_how can I "Sudo"?03:18
happy_manhey is there anyway to install themes on ubuntu ?03:18
poningru!fonts03:18
ubotufonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto03:18
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ardchoillepashaw: no03:18
poningru!font is <reply> see !fonts03:18
ubotuokay, poningru03:18
MasterTsunamiardchoille, go read the link, and do some shopping.  you can get a 6600 for ~$100 that will tear through far cry at its highest settings :/03:18
funkyHatowner_, you might like to try some alternatives: beep media player, rhythmbox, amaroK, juK, banshee all have nice interfaces03:19
Shadymanowner_: sudo ./home/whateveryourloginnameis/Desktop/windowswhatever.bin03:19
Wilfubotu, like, totally don't go there girlfriend03:19
ubotuWilf: I don't know, could you explain it?03:19
funkyHatShadyman, er... that path won't work03:19
pashawardchoille,   far cry youd want something around that minimum03:19
ardchoilleMasterTsunami: thanks03:19
ShadymanfunkyHat: Yeah, i know03:19
ULffuntuhey whazzup sirgroik03:19
ShadymanfunkyHat: It's close, though. Maybe.03:19
mcjerryWilf: how 's i goin dude?03:19
SirGrok...I am trying to write to a SATA sick on my machine, and it is giving me all sorts of trouble. I can write to all of my other mounted drives, and they are all set up the same in fstab, but I just can't write to the SATA one (I have been able to before... I don't think that I changed anything though, which is the funniest part)03:19
SirGrokdisk**03:19
owner_how do I sudo?03:19
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MasterTsunamilol03:19
SirGrokowner_, typ[e sudo thenh your command.03:20
MasterTsunamiit's good though :/03:20
pashawhappy_man,   http://www.gnome-look.org/03:20
SirGrokowner_, check out www.ubuntuguide.org03:20
ShadymanfunkyHat: I just use a sudo terminal :P03:20
ardchoilleyeah03:20
Wilfhey mcjerry, i'm good, you?03:20
MasterTsunamiyou could run HL2 also and some other new games03:20
poningruowner_: type in 'sudo <command>'03:20
Shadyman!sudo03:20
ardchoilleyeah, gotta have HL203:20
poningruwith <command> portion being what your command is03:20
poningru!sudo03:20
mcjerryWilf: was trying to get my dvi camcorder and wintv-pvr-150 card going today03:20
poningru+!sudo03:20
funkyHatShadyman, lol, sudo ~/Desktop/blah or sudo ./Desktop/blah would both work :P03:20
SirGrokowner_, like "sudo fdisk -l" will list your partitinos on your machine03:21
Wilfmcjerry, how'd it go?03:21
HymnToLife!javadebs03:21
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:21
funkyHatShadyman, oo... I do occasionally, usually stick with sudo command though03:21
mcjerrydid ok with the camcorder but ended up restoring backup image after fooling with ivtv modules03:21
ShadymanfunkyHat: woudln't sudo make ~ look in root's "home"?03:21
owner_syntax error near unexpected token `newline'03:21
owner_thats what it says03:21
funkyHatShadyman, I'll just see03:21
Shadymanowner_: Get rid of the CD thing now.03:21
funkyHat:P03:21
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SirGrokowner_, what is your command?03:21
owner_CD thing?03:21
owner_its03:21
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owner_owner@owner:~/Desktop$03:22
funkyHatShadyman, no :)03:22
sethkShadyman, make does not take a directory name as a target03:22
ShadymanfunkyHat: I fail :)03:22
Shadymansethk: Make?03:22
sethkShadyman, there is an argument for that, but it isn't what you want to do03:22
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Shadymansethk: I must have missed something.03:22
SirGrok...I am trying to write to a SATA sick on my machine, and it is giving me all sorts of trouble. I can write to all of my other mounted drives, and they are all set up the same in fstab, but I just can't write to the SATA one (I have been able to before... I don't think that I changed anything though, which is the funniest part)03:22
funkyHatsethk, I don't think that's what Shadyman meant lol03:23
sethkShadyman, maybe not, but it _is_ what he said.  :)03:23
owner_ syntax error near unexpected token `newline'03:23
funkyHatsethk, make was 'cause' rather than the program make ;)03:23
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owner_i tried agian and thats what happend03:23
Shadymanwhat are you typing?03:23
owner_ sudo <command>03:24
oldguySirGrok: my usb stick decided to become read only too if thtat is whata yu mean03:24
funkyHatOh dear03:24
Shadyman...03:24
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sethkfunkyHat, oh, he thinks sudo will pick up roots environment03:24
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funkyHatsethk, ya03:24
pashawsethk,  yes   he used ~ as seperator03:24
funkyHatShadyman, sudo is more like su rather than su -03:24
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AesopHey03:25
SirGrokThat is what I mean. Sorry... I accidently connected.03:25
funkyHatpashaw, no, he used ~ to represent home dir03:25
SirGrokWhat did you do to make it writeable?!03:25
AesopAnyone know how to make GNome not treat alt-click as a drag command?03:25
SirGrokThis is crazy....03:25
owner_i'm new to linux, I started today.. Sorry if I don't know alot.. =P03:25
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ShadymanfunkyHat: All i said was as Sudo, ~ wouldn't be your user's home, it'd be root's home.03:25
funkyHatAesop, system > preferences > window03:25
SirGrokowner, what are you trying to do with that command?03:25
AesopThank yeh03:25
ShadymanfunkyHat: If i'm wrong, then ok :)03:25
data_grrrHi, I need help here. Can i re-write a DVD with default Ubuntu 5.10 br. ?03:26
owner_so if I need to see the root, I type: sudo <root>?03:26
funkyHatShadyman, ya, I know :D Noone else does though, It's not you that's wrong anymore :D03:26
HymnToLifeI'm off to bed03:26
HymnToLifegood night people :)03:26
pashawowner_,   maybe you should look around more before  running MS apps you could just use those in windows instead03:26
ShadymanfunkyHat: Oh, ok :)03:26
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lemurif you need to see the root, try "sudo whoami"03:26
SirGrokowner, type sudo whoami03:26
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SirGrokowner_,  then type just whoami03:26
SirGrokGet it?03:26
pashawSirGrok,   hes trying to install windowsmediaplayer03:27
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owner_not anymore03:27
dodgyvilleHello03:27
sethkShadyman, even if root's environment were picked up, that still wouldn't work, because ~ is replaced by the shell before invoking a program.  If sudo starts a program, that program won't understand ~ (unless it happens to be a shell script)03:27
pashawowner_,   good for you03:27
dodgyvilleAnyone got an easy way to get nvidia tv-out working in 5.10 ?03:27
SirGrokpashaw,  I seeeee.... to connect his iPod to his computer?03:27
poningrudodgyville: just restart with the cable plugged in03:27
pashawSirGrok,   no  only movie program he knew  he's new is all03:27
AesopDarn, funy!hat, that didn't help.03:28
AesopI'm trying to play a game that uses ALT-CLick to focus your view03:28
owner_How do make wine work then?03:28
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AesopAnd while it's not just moving the window now, ALt-click does nothing03:28
SirGrokpashaw, Oh. i thought that you were being sarcastic. Sorry owner_ .03:28
dodgyvilleponingru: Thanks03:28
ilba7rowner have you tried opening the application menu> media players> to see if any would open your files03:28
pashawSirGrok,   normally yes03:28
SirGrokowner_, Linux has a lot of replacment programs for ones that you are used to... They all do the same thing if not more than the Windows variants.03:28
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owner_ok thanks SirGrok03:29
SirGrokowner_, check out h ttp://ubuntuguide.com download the codec packs, and then check out xine or moplayer.... I use xine.03:29
pashawowner_,   read the wiki also  lots of cool stuff to tweak your system with   youll learn alot also03:30
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SirGrokowner_, you need codecs to decode certain video files.... it is like a map for how to read things. Once you get those, you should be home sweet home.03:30
pashaw!wiki03:30
Madpilot!ubuntuguide03:30
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.03:30
SirGrokThen grab xine03:30
chillyo03:30
funkyHatAesop, damn... you could have a look through Applications > system tools > configuration editor > (apps > metacity)03:30
MadpilotSirGrok: see ubotu on the ubuntuguide, and please don't recommend it...03:30
AesopMetacity?03:30
AesopOk03:30
happy_man32841-Metaplastik.tar.gz: 32841-Metaplastik.tar.gz: cannot execute binary file03:31
happy_man < what is that>03:31
AesopfunkyHat: In case it helps, I'm running Second Life through Cedega (Actually, WIneX 3.3.2-1)03:31
SirGrokMadpilot, I didn't know that there was an official guide.. I would have pointed there... sorry.03:31
funkyHatAesop, can confuse people I know ;), metacity's job as the window manager includes global keybindings03:31
poningruhappy_man: what are you trying to do?03:31
MarcNhappy_man:  tar zxvf 32*.tar.gz to unpack the file03:31
pashawowner_,    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:31
happy_mantrying to install a theme03:31
MarcNhappy_man: a tar.gz file is sort of like a zip file.03:31
AesopI'm willing to bet that its Cedegas fault03:31
Madpilotowner_: have a look here for replacement apps in Linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant03:31
poningruhappy_man: just right click on it03:31
poningruand extract03:31
funkyHatAesop, yeah, it could well be that Cedega isn't handling the keyboard properly03:32
owner_SirGrok, it was ubuntuguide.org not .com =P03:32
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uber_spacedwhat's the name of the kernel devel package?03:32
happy_manThen how do I apply a theme03:32
SirGrokCan anyone help me with my problem? My SATA drive decided to make itself read only all of a sudden. It is configured just like all of my other drives, but I can't write to the thing.03:32
AesopfunkyHat: Ja, especially since it ignores the keypad. >_<03:32
uber_spacedif I wanted to compile ze kernel?03:32
Stormx2In the installer, can it resize NTFS partitions?03:32
SirGrokowner_, doesn't matter anywho, I pointed you to the totally wrong place... try http://help.ubuntu.com03:33
funkyHatAesop, tried numlock? ;) heh heh03:33
apokryphosStormx2: so it claims03:33
AesopfunkyHat: Yeh03:33
funkyHatsorry, lol03:33
AesopTried cycling it as well03:33
Stormx2apokryphos: That a yes or a no >.<03:33
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dodgyvilleHello03:33
apokryphosStormx2: I haven't ever tried it; meant to be able to, yes.03:33
dodgyvilleI restarted, but there's no tv-out option in totem.03:33
dodgyville(it's still grayed)03:34
benplautmy grandma's computer is behind a DSL router. the ip adress the computer reports is 192.168.xx, but the ip reported from online sites is 77.19.xx... when i'm on the same network, i can FreeNX into her machine using the 192 address. how would i connect once i'm back in hawaii? i'm assuming i need some sort of port forwarding, but i have no clue. (both amchines are running ubuntu)03:34
funkyHatStormx2, I found that breezy's version of the nfts libraries wouldn't do what I wanted, but knoppix 3.9 has a slightly newer version and managed to resize a couple of NTFS partitions just fine03:34
Shadymanbenplaut: You'd need to use 77.19.xx.xx03:34
paulproteus|laptbenplaut: You have to configure the DSL router.03:34
Shadymanbenplaut: And you'd need some kinda port forwarding, yeah.03:34
paulproteus|laptFor FreeNX, set port 22 to go to your computer.03:34
Madpilotbenplaut: you'll need to use port forwarding on her router03:34
paulproteus|laptI mean, to her computer.03:35
Stormx2funkyHat: nevermind. I'll just give this guy partition magic lol03:35
MarcNpaulproteus|lapt: port 22 is the ssh port.03:35
poningru!tell happy_man about theme03:35
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poningru!themes03:35
paulproteus|laptMarcN: I know.  FreeNX is tunneled over SSH by default.03:35
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poningru!tell happy_man about themes03:35
funkyHatStormx2, aww... and pass up the opportunity to introduce them to another great open source tool?03:35
WebLOCHsend me an angel.03:35
MarcNpaulproteus|lapt: ah.03:35
paulproteus|laptMarcN: This is the kind of thing you would want to test.03:35
Wilfwhat command do i type into terminal to find my kernal version?03:35
Phandyhey, I heard I can get technical support about ubuntu here?03:35
ions|T22I just installed Hoary on this thinkpad and I can't get any FF extensions to install03:35
paulproteus|laptPhandy: That's right.03:35
MarcNWilf: uname -a03:35
Stormx2funkyHat: like what? ;-)03:35
ions|T22it's a fresh install03:35
paulproteus|laptions|T22: Install Breezy first.03:36
Wilfthanks MarcN03:36
data_grrrcan i re-write DVD on Ubuntu,  Anybody knows? only with its DVD tools?03:36
PhandyPaulproteus: can I just ask a question?03:36
uber_spacedWhat is the name of the apt package that installs the kernel source files?03:36
happy_manty poningru03:36
ions|T22I hate Breezy03:36
poningruhappy_man: yep03:36
slideIt hates you!03:36
ions|T22runs very very very poorly on my workstation03:36
ions|T22it sure does03:36
slidehehe03:36
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funkyHatStormx2.... knoppix..... :P03:36
ions|T22Hoary and I get along though03:36
poningruions|T22: what does it say?03:36
paulproteus|laptMarcN:  *Easiest* would be if instead you connected her computer directly to the Internet rather than using the router.03:36
poningruions|T22: any errors I mean03:36
poningruions|T22: also what version of firefox do you run?03:36
ions|T22I click install then it just sits at the little extensions window03:37
ions|T221.0703:37
MarcNpaulproteus|lapt: wrong person.  routers with port forwarding is probably what anyone wants.03:37
poningruions|T22: what xpi are you trying to install?03:37
ions|T22Hoary with default sources.list03:37
ions|T22adblock03:37
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poningruyeah but which version?03:37
paulproteus|laptbenplaut:  *Easiest* would be if instead you connected her computer directly to the Internet rather than using the router.03:37
ions|T22oh one sec03:37
poningrucause adblock the latest one is only installable for 1.503:37
poningrufirefox 1.503:37
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ions|T22https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=10&application=firefox that one03:38
ShadymanHey guys? I've got gnome set up with next, previous, play, pause buttons, etc, how do i get them to work with Rhythmbox?03:38
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uber_spacedshould I use the kernel-tree or the kernel-source?03:38
ions|T22it says Requires: Firefox: 0.7 - 1.6a103:38
Stormx2funkyHat: Whats easier, sending him a smallish pirated tool to get it done so he can get on ubuntu faster, or making him download, burn, and boot up knoppix03:39
Stormx2funkyHat: I rest my case ^_^03:39
ions|T22but other extensions fail too03:39
MadpilotShadyman: if you mean keyboard buttons, shouldn't Rythymbox pick up gnome's keymapping?03:39
ions|T22like noscript03:39
funkyHatStormx2, you win -_-03:39
ShadymanMadpilot: That's what i mean.03:39
poningruions|T22: um I dont think addons lets you in if you have 1.0.703:39
funkyHat:P03:39
Phandyhey, can anyone tell me if the i386 version of Ubuntu will work on my AMD athlon PC?03:39
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Stormx2o.O03:39
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ions|T22hmmm03:39
ions|T22poopy03:39
ions|T22ok03:39
poningruions|T22: you sure you didnt change the user agent or something?03:39
ShadymanPhandy: Yes. i386 will work on most anything.03:39
Stormx2Phandy: Works on mine.03:39
MadpilotPhandy: yes, it will - you can upgrade to the K7 kernel after install if you want03:39
ions|T22nope03:39
poningruions|T22: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=77403:40
ions|T22fresh install, I changed nothing03:40
poningrutry installing from there03:40
Phandyok, thanks03:40
poningruions|T22: dont worry its trustworthy03:40
MadpilotShadyman: I don't have a multimedia keyboard myself, but I'm surprised Rythymbox doesn't pick up the keys - check bugzilla.ubuntu.com?03:40
ions|T22I click the link and nothing happens03:40
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poningruions|T22: go to edit->pref03:41
poningruunder contents03:41
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poningrumake sure you have allow extensions to be installed checked03:41
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dodgyvilleWhen I run nvtv the output on the television has a weird scrambling effect (small lines everywhere), and the image on the monitor is completely scrambled.03:41
poningrudodgyville: you sure the cable is good?03:42
poningrudodgyville: that was the problem for me03:42
rabbit1in fstab, if I have defaults in the options list, and I also specify user, does user overwrite the nouser from defaults??03:42
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_jeffhery guys03:42
dodgyvilleponingru: Good question. I think it's ok, because I can plug a video camera in no probs.03:42
Shadymanhey _jeff03:43
_jeffhow do i uninstall ubuntu on my dual boot xp system?03:43
_jeffwindows really needs the other hard drive03:43
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SirGrokI am told, that my drive is read only, although when I run "mount" I get an output saying that it is "rw" (read/writeable" I didn't do anything to make it all  of a sudden do this, or so I think. "Sudo chown -R jeff /media/Music" won't even do it.03:43
ilba7r_jeff did you install grub on your MBR03:44
funkyHat_jeff, put your windows XP installer CD in, wait for it to get to the second prompt (the one after press any key to boot), reboot and take the CD out03:44
rizoalright i fixed my hibernate, now im working on suspend to memory. it works but after resuming everything is slow T_T03:44
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_jeffMBR?03:44
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_jefffunkyhat: what does that do?03:44
MasterTsunamishould i enable universe and multiverse on dapper?03:44
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Shadymanooh dumb question again, what's the command for the system log?03:44
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rabbit1in fstab, if I have defaults in the options list, and I also specify user, does user overwrite the nouser from defaults??03:45
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poningrudodgyville: hmm ic03:45
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funkyHat_jeff, it resets the boot section of your hard drive, making it boot windows03:45
_jefffunkyhat: just by putting in the cd it resets the boot sector permanently?03:46
rabbit1funkyHat: how could _jeff make the drive visible under windows to get it back?03:46
funkyHat_jeff, yes (not exactly permanent, you can use the ubuntu live CD or another linux live CD to restore grub)03:46
_jeffrabbit1: im just trying to get rid of grub so that i can remove ubuntu by repartitioning without messing up my boot03:47
navarone_jeff what happened?03:47
poningru_jeff: yeah it will get rid of your mbr03:47
funkyHatrabbit1, _jeff access the other drive from computer management console > disc management03:47
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poningruerr reset your mbr for win control03:47
ions|T22I added the site to be allowed to download software and still nothing03:47
_jefffunkyhat: ok thanks man, im gonna try that03:47
_jeffponingru: what MBR?03:48
_jeffponingru: what is MBR?03:48
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hangfiremaster boot record03:48
funkyHat_jeff, master boot record03:48
ilba7r_jeff Master boot record03:48
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Beccarai'm having some issues installing ubuntu server on a compaq dl58003:48
BeccaraDebian install's fine and boots03:48
navarone_jeff the mbr tell the computer what os(s) resides on computer and where and what to boot03:48
Beccarabut ubuntu loads grub and hangs saying /dev/ida/c0d0p1 is not found03:49
dwhsix(this may be offtopic) -- does it make sense that using Sound Juicer I would only get 4x when ripping CDs, when I read perf #s for my CD player of anywhere from 16x on up?03:49
hangfirewell it cant find your ida device03:50
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Beccarai figure that much, but i dont understand why since the installer find it and allows me to partition it03:50
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Viper550Anyone use the ubuntu-art list?03:50
chmod775I folks how do I install the new firefox 1.503:50
chmod775?03:50
Viper550link in a sec...03:51
funkyHatdwhsix, it could be related to your DMA settings03:51
hangfireI had the same problem with FreeBSD, I dont know03:51
funkyHatI noticed they aren't set up optimally when ubuntu is installed...03:51
Viper550http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7928303:51
Shadyman!firefox1503:51
ubotuit has been said that firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org03:51
Beccarait just seems strange since debian works 100%03:51
dwhsixfunkyHat:can you be more specific?  what should I look at?03:51
Viper550I tried that and it worked!03:51
funkyHatdwhsix, sorry, I can't, as I can't remember how to do the DMA stuff... can anyone help with this please?03:52
Viper550Trust me, on Linux, not everything is point and click...:)03:52
sethkBeccara, you have to load a driver, although I don't know the specific driver03:52
dwhsix(and right now on the current CD it's only getting 1.8x... hmm...)03:52
funkyHatenabling DMA for all devices that support it...03:52
Stormx2from windows xp, would it be possible to resize the NTFS partition?03:52
Beccaracqqarray, i know03:52
ElitePeteanyone have the link for the list of windows programs and the linux equvilant?03:52
hangfirebut how would you load a driver when you havent even installed the OS?03:52
Beccarathe trouble is it hangs at boot, before modules.conf is even loaded03:52
funkyHatStormx2, with partitionmagic, yes, otherwise not the system one... I don't know about others03:53
Beccarai'm guessing i would need to recompile the kerenl and have the driver not as a module03:53
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dwhsixaha, let me try looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA03:53
funkyHatBeccara, sata hard drive right?03:53
funkyHatBeccara, sorry, not awake enough to find where your question started03:54
Beccarano03:54
Viper550Wanna know the funniest quote a Linux app has said to me?03:54
Beccaracompaq scsi array in a DL58003:54
BeccarafunkyHat, works fine in debain standard install03:54
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ElitePeteanyone have the link for the list of windows programs and the linux equvilant?03:54
bobbydhi03:55
Beccarabut seems that ubuntu dosnt have it compiled in03:55
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Viper550Wondering what this quote is?03:55
bobbydcan anyone suggest a good webhost running linux?03:55
naliothubotu: tell ElitePete about equivalents03:55
btdownhostrocket.com has been good for me...03:55
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ElitePetety nalioth03:55
data_grrrHow can i change the permissions of cdrom0 directory? to re-write a cd. i am very new.03:55
ilba7rhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant03:55
Viper550"Please define some command" -fbpanel03:56
funkyHatBeccara, have what compiled in?03:56
Beccarathe cpqarray module03:56
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MarcN Beccara: ubuntu on a proliant?  Why?03:57
Beccarawhich i find strange for the server ubuntu installer but i've seen stranger things03:57
funkyHatah03:57
Beccaramainly ubuntus redhat cluster packages03:57
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Beccaraand its general wider range of packages03:57
funkyHatthan debian?03:58
Beccarayes03:58
funkyHatoh03:58
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Beccaraadd in "universe" to the apt list and bang, precompiled redhat cluster suite packages03:58
Viper550Let's Linux03:58
Beccaraincluding GFS support03:58
Viper550I meant Let's Linux Engrish!03:58
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funkyHatBeccara, oki, I wasn't aware that ubuntu (even with the universe and multiverse repositories) had a bigger / wider selection than debian03:59
funkyHat:)03:59
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Beccarawell thats just personal view, it seems that whenever i need something ubuntu has it if debian dosnt03:59
Viper550Can we talk about this funny thing I saw on Fbpanel?03:59
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naliothViper550: funny goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:00
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happy_manwho here plays anygame with punkbuster in it?04:00
Beccarai might just install the debian kernel berfore reboot and let that load, kernel dosnt matter since i  will be loading xen kernel as soon as it boots04:00
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hangfireI do04:01
happy_manhangfire: can you  tell me how you got your punkbuster to work?04:01
happy_manhangfire: because it seems i only can enable the server side but not the client side04:01
johnsie2khow do you make a prgram run every time you start gnome?04:01
ions|T22well, I managed to install Warty instead of Hoary cause I'm a moron04:01
ions|T22that could be the source of my FF woes04:01
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hangfirewell in Battlefield 1942 you have to go into the multiplayer screen and activate the punkbuster button04:01
poningruchmod775: did you get your answer?04:01
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poningruchmod775: regarding the firefox1.504:02
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chmod775no poningru04:02
chmod775?04:02
poningru!tell chmod775 about firefox1.504:02
happy_manhangfire: any special way you installed the game?04:02
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poningru!theme04:02
ubotuNot a clue, poningru04:02
happy_manhangfire: because the only thing i did was copy the files from my cd and put them on my desktop, made a folder on my desktop by myself04:02
johnsie2k!tell johnsie2k about firefox 1.504:02
poningru!theme is <reply> see !themes04:02
ubotuponingru: okay04:02
johnsie2k!tell johnsie2k about firefox1.504:02
hangfireno, just remember to install punkbuster before the game install04:02
naliothubotu: tell johnsie2k about firefox1504:03
happy_manhangfire: install punkbuster before the game??04:03
poningru!tell johnsie2k about firefox1.504:03
hangfireyes, you have to04:03
johnsie2kthanks :_)04:03
sobersabrehi. trying to make-kpkg. I forgot the flag that renames the standard kernel_image target into Ubuntu's linux-image ... ( something with 'stem' ) can somebody remind me ?04:03
happy_manhangfire: can you please guide me how04:03
fevelcan anyone help me listen to radio on xmms?04:03
sobersabre !tell sobersabre about firefox1.504:04
johnsie2kHmmmm will they ever release FF 1.5 as a deb?04:04
johnsie2kI'm lazy04:04
hangfirethere is nothing to guide, if the game requires punkbuster, it will have a punkbuster install automatically before the game install04:04
naliothubotu: tell sobersabre about firefox1504:04
inv_Arpfevel: xmms support radio?04:04
Stormx2johnsie2k: xD it takes about 10 minutes to install without a deb04:04
_jeffhey guys04:04
naliothjohnsie2k: probably not until dapper04:04
fevelinv_Arp, i wish it did04:04
fevelinv_Arp, is there anyway to listen to radio on ubuntu??04:04
_jeffinv_arp: yeah xmms supports radio streams,04:04
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sobersabresomebody better tell me about kernel make-kpkg question...04:04
johnsie2kbut will it auto upgrade like deb if i do that?04:04
cozhave root owned file on desktop copied from flash drive. I cannot delete it04:05
_jeffinv_arp: try stream tuner with xmms, its a pretty cool combination04:05
inv_Arp_jeff: think he means like from a radio card04:05
fevel_jeff, is it in the ubuntu repositories??04:05
_jeffinv_arp: lol ok04:05
cozhave tried chown -R username /home/username/Desktop/filename04:05
coznothing no such file or directory04:05
sobersabreanother q: how well is nforce4 chipset supported under linux ? I have an amd64 machine and it shows many unknown devices in lspci for that chipset.04:05
johnsie2kyeah streamtuner is great04:05
fevelinv_Arp, no...from the net04:05
feveli have no radio card04:05
inv_Arpoh streams04:05
inv_Arpjust get the .pls file04:06
_jefffevel: i think i saw something in 'Add Applications' about tuning into fm radio with ur radio card04:06
feveli have no card04:06
chmod775thankx poningru04:06
_jefffevel: are you talking about internet radio?04:06
fevelyes04:06
fevelin rindows I used winamp04:06
inv_Arpfevel:  just run the .pls file04:07
_jefffevel: ok yeah, get streamtuner in 'Add Applications' and check it out04:07
fevelinv_Arp, where do I get those??04:07
johnsie2kYou;re misisng the media library right?04:07
cozalso get streamripper to record to the harddrive04:07
inv_Arpfevel: oh i use shoutcast  its right in their site04:07
_jefffevel: it allows you to browse shoutcast radio stations and opens them in xmms04:07
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naliothfevel: when you're at shoutcast right click on the 'play now' button and 'save as'04:07
johnsie2kbut streamtuner has all the shoutcast stations04:08
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_jefffevel: yeah you could go to the site too04:08
slewhi, i need to change the owner of an entire drive from root to me, how would i do this from the command line?04:08
naliothslew: you will break your machine if you do that04:08
_jefffevel: its just not built into xmms to browse streams04:08
cozchown -R username location04:08
cozI believe04:08
centOGGyeah04:08
naliothcoz: you will break a machine changing all the perms04:08
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ShadymanOh weird, my volume control buttons for Gnome control the master volume. It seems though that PCM volume doesn't go through Master though, so it doesnt do anything.04:08
cozI didn't ask the question04:09
slewok, what if i wanted users and groups to have just r/w but no eXecute?04:09
cozjust answered it04:09
johnsie2kAnyone know how to make a program start every time gnome starts?04:09
cozI think he wants to change the ownership of an external drive04:09
naliothcoz: so you are gonna give an answer that will render a machine unusable w/o a warning?04:09
slewright sorry external drive i ment to put04:09
centOGGslew: look for 'sessions' in the menubar04:09
naliothcoz: we have very new users to *nix here, don't assume anything04:10
rabbit1How do I setup fstab properly to mount an ntfs drive read only ??04:10
poningrujohnsie2k: go to systems04:10
coznalioth I believe he wants to change ownership of external drive04:10
rabbit1Specifically, what should my fstab entry be like?04:10
poningrujohnsie2k: err systems->preferences->session04:10
centOGGi mean johnsie2k, sorry04:10
naliothubotu: tell rabbit1 about ntfs04:10
cozok04:10
coznalioth perhaps you can help me04:10
slewcould i put chown -R 766 slew /dev/hdd?04:10
fevelthanks for the help guys...never knew about shoutcast04:10
cozI have a root owned file on the dekstop copied from flash drive04:11
fevelthat really got rid of winamp04:11
cozneed to delet it but cannot get to it04:11
johnsie2kthanks04:11
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poningrujohnsie2k: take a look at the last tab04:11
cafuegoslew: Probably not, if it's not a Linux filesystem.04:11
johnsie2kcheers pong :-)04:11
poningrucoz: start a terminal04:11
cozalready there04:12
cafuegoslew: Check the uid, gid and umask options in 'man fstab'.04:12
poningrucoz: type in cd ~/Desktop04:12
poningrunow04:12
cozthere04:12
slewok04:12
slewcool04:12
poningrusudo rm -r name_of_file04:12
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poningrucoz: is it a file or a folder?04:13
slewif i need to change the params of an entire linux dir to just user and group gets r/w but no X how would i do that from the command line?04:13
cozfolder04:13
fevelhey guys, im having trouble synching with ntpdate servers04:13
naliothcoz i've had users in here who HAVE changed all the file permissions to their users on their system (and then wonder why it doesnt work)04:13
poningruyeah it will take a care of it04:13
fevelcan anyone give me a hand?'04:13
cozOk noliath04:13
naliothcoz cd into the folder04:13
johnsie2kwhat with fevel?04:13
poningrufevel: a time thing?04:13
cozhold on04:13
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cozno such file or directory04:14
fevelponingru, yes, my clock is not updated04:14
naliothcoz: then it must be gone.04:14
johnsie2kHey does anyone know why my keyboard dies sometime when I select text and then hit backspace?04:14
poningrufevel: right click04:14
cafuegoslew: rwX (that only preserves x on dirs, it doesn't add one)04:14
cozno it is definately there it  it has only root access04:14
poningrufevel: right click on the time04:14
poningruand adjust04:14
fevelponingru, but that would make me right click every season04:15
poningruenter in your password04:15
fevelim a very lazy person04:15
cozI can get into the folder to see its contents04:15
poningrufevel: no it would synchronize ever time04:15
cozI cannot erase the folder04:15
silverbladeWho know what is Wine ?04:15
navaronefevel perhaps you chose the wronf os...<s>04:15
cozwine is emulator04:15
johnsie2kno it's not :-p04:15
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fevelgot the time synched...thanks again04:16
sobersabresilverblade: wine is 'WINdows Emulator'04:16
poningruferrox: yep04:16
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silverbladeyes i know04:16
sobersabresilverblade: there is commercial product called 'crossover office' based on wine.04:16
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silverbladebut i dont know how get it04:16
navaronesilverblade,  apt-get install wine ?04:17
sobersabresilverblade: wine you can install via the apt/synaptic whatever tool04:17
poningru!tell silverblade about wine04:17
silverbladeok...04:17
poningrusilverblade: that should help you out a lot more04:17
sobersabrecrossover office is a software you can buy. costs about 30$ ( I actually don't remember )04:17
chmod775poningru, I get a  chrome registration error after installing firefox 1.504:17
chmod775?04:17
WebLOCHsobersabre, I thought WINE stood for Wine Is Not a windows Emulator04:18
slewcafuego-> so at the end its chown -R slew rw /data?04:18
poningruchmod775: dont worry about it04:18
chmod775sobersabre, u can download the hacked version of crossover04:18
chmod775?04:18
poningruchmod775: just restart04:18
navaroneIf you install wine are you immediately able to run windows program you have installed on windows partion...or must you first "install" progs thru wine in linux?04:18
poningrufirefox04:18
sobersabreWebLOCH:  :)04:18
chmod775poningru, u mean restart the system04:18
poningrunavarone: the latter04:18
chmod775or just firefox04:18
sobersabrechmod775: you can rape your relatives too04:18
poningruchmod775: no just firefox04:18
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chmod775sobersabre, mind ur language ?04:18
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navaroneponingru, is wine compatible with all windows versions? I have win2k pro...04:19
Stormx2Friend is creating a 5gb FAT partition in partition magic for swapping data between ubuntu and windows. It asked him, primary or logical? he already has a 45gb NTFS partition on the disk.04:19
Stormx2Which should he select, primary or logical?04:19
fevelnavarone, you must install the softs...i suggest cedega for games and crossover office for apps04:19
navaronelogical04:19
Stormx2Your time starts.... nowwww04:19
sethkStormx2, primary04:19
chmod775cool fixed04:19
Stormx2o.O04:19
sobersabrechmod775: mind yours04:19
Stormx2Im getting conflicing answers04:19
sethkStormx2, don't use logical unless you are out of primaries04:19
pananaheartB //04:19
poningrunavarone: I think so but not sure04:19
sethkStormx2, if you won't need to create additional partitions, then definitely primary04:19
naliothchmod775: we don't advocate anything illegal in here04:20
silverbladenavarone: can u give me a link for download WINE please04:20
chmod775I am sorry nalioth04:20
naliothsobersabre: please be civil04:20
Stormx2sethk: He needs to add ubuntu partitions04:20
navaronesilverblade, just go to termianl and type "apt-get install wine"04:20
poningrusilverblade: take a look at the msg ubotu sent you04:20
sobersabrenalioth: I am only mamal :(04:20
Stormx2sethk: he's leaving 10gb unallocated for that04:20
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sethkStormx2, how many?04:20
pananawhere i should set PATH to environmenting java04:20
Stormx2sethk: 1 ext3 one swap.04:20
sethkStormx2, if you are going to need more than four, total, then you will have to use logical.04:20
sethkStormx2, but if you only need 4 or fewer, make them all primary04:20
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navaronesilver put a "sudo" in front of that04:21
sobersabrepanana: depends on your system. is it a multi-user system with many versions of java ?04:21
chmod775I did'nt know this. But people could be a bit polite04:21
chmod775and decent04:21
Phocionhey all I got NDISWRAPPER to successfully install my wireless card driver.  "ifup wlan0" returns "No DHCPOFFERS received." error.  anyone know why????????????????04:22
sobersabrechmod775: I am sorry, I am not polite, it is true. but I am decent.04:22
johnsie2kDoes anyone know why I get a weird delay when I start a program?04:22
sethkjohnsie2k, without any more information than that?  Of course not04:22
sobersabrechmod775: I only meant this: both acts are related, and illegal.04:22
pananasobersabre : i have netbeans and eclipse work, but its so slowly04:22
chmod775Did I tell you that that u were not decent04:23
chmod775?04:23
chmod775lol04:23
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sobersabrepanana: It has nothing to do with version of java.04:23
sobersabrepanana: how many GB of memory do you have ?04:23
johnsie2kwell I click the icon to start a program and it takes longer than expected to start up. It's kinda like it pauses during loading.  Anyone know why?04:23
_jeffi have a question guys, but its a little off channel topic04:23
poningrujohnsie2k: the toothfairy did it04:23
WebLOCHCan anyone suggest a decent tool for formatting a USB pen drive?04:23
sethksobersabre, that isn't exactly true, although the performance differences are small04:23
pananasobersabre : 128 :)04:23
sethkWebLOCH, you use the same tools as you use to format anything else04:23
poningrujohnsie2k: sorry dude still too little info04:23
ElitePetequestion: i have a broken xbox, if i took the HD out could i use it on a mainstream PC ?04:23
sobersabrepanana: this is far less than needed.04:23
sethkWebLOCH, there areno device specific tools04:24
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_jeffi have an orange shirt, i want that orange shirt to be white. what can i do to make it white?04:24
poningruyou would have to start up the program in a terminal04:24
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poningrusee if it gives some error msg or something04:24
centOGGbleach04:24
sethk_jeff, white out04:24
pananasobersabre : recomended ?04:24
WebLOCHseth_k I just did and i think I have killed the pendrive, so I want advice on what to use aside from Ubuntus defacto "Disk MAnager"04:24
sobersabrepanana: 128 GB ?! this is enough!04:24
WebLOCHsethk I just did and i think I have killed the pendrive, so I want advice on what to use aside from Ubuntus defacto "Disk MAnager"04:24
Stormx2_jeff: Vomit?04:24
_jeffcentogg: i have bleached it but its still a little orange04:24
chmod775poningru, how do I update firefox04:24
sethkWebLOCH, if you were going to format it, there is nothing to kill04:24
_jeffstormx2: what?04:24
chmod775it ;s greyed out help->check for updates04:24
chmod775?04:24
sethkWebLOCH, depends on what type of file system you want on it04:24
pananasobersabre : RAM or HardDisk ?04:24
centOGGi dunno bleach it again?04:25
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_jeffstormx2: no its an orange shirt that i want to be white, its not a riddle or anything04:25
dodgyvilleHello04:25
sobersabrepanana: It depends on: which windows manager you run, how much swap you have, how fast HD you have, and how many other programs run at the same time.04:25
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sethkchmod775, probably you don't have privileges to install updates04:25
sobersabrepanana: RAM.04:25
ElitePetequestion: i have a broken xbox, if i took the HD out could i use it on a mainstream PC ?04:25
chmod775ok04:25
Stormx2_jeff: OK04:25
Stormx2_jeff: Drink milk and vomit04:25
sethkElitePete, sure.  it might or might not work, but you can use it.04:25
sethkElitePete, odds are it is an ordinary ide drive04:25
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WebLOCHsethk regardless of what you know to be true, the drive just died after trying to format it with ext3, so could you please advise on a suitable formatting application04:25
sobersabreElitePete: if the hard disk is not broken...04:25
ShadymanElitePete: Maybe not\04:25
ElitePeteOk it's definantly a broken xbox, i know it's the lens not the HD04:25
sethkWebLOCH, I format mine with ext3, as in:  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda104:26
navaronepanana...more ram the better...since adding additional 256mb ram I have not touched swap04:26
ElitePeteso im gonna crack it open04:26
_jeffcentogg: so if i bleach it enough it will come out completely white?04:26
ShadymanElitePete: You'd have to format it, because it uses microsoft's encrypted FAT-type04:26
sethkWebLOCH, but what I meant was, you didn't kill it, regardless of what you may think04:26
ElitePeteShadyman, that should be easy enough04:26
sethkWebLOCH, most likely if you remove it and reinsert it, it will automount04:26
WebLOCHsethk it worked before i started, now it has an unmountable fs04:26
ShadymanElitePete: Yeah04:26
WebLOCHsethk i tried that04:26
sobersabrenavarone: which desktop are you working with  ? gnome/kde/something else like ion3 ?04:26
pananasobersabre : my Swap 1.5 gb04:26
WebLOCHElitePete, whats up with the xbox?04:26
navaronegnome sabre04:26
sethkWebLOCH, then you may have partitioned the entire device04:26
Shadyman!dapper04:26
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake04:26
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sobersabrepanana: and what is the size of your memory ?04:26
sethkWebLOCH, which is ok, but requires a slightly different mount statement04:26
pananasobersabre : 128 mb04:27
sethkWebLOCH, so, try, if it is sda,  mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /media/wherever04:27
WebLOCHsethk, any advice on how to reformat to fat32 ?04:27
sobersabrepanana: this is bad.04:27
ElitePeteWebLOCH, just a broken xbox i want to take the HD from04:27
sethkWebLOCH, if you want to be able to read it in windows you should partition it first with fdisk04:27
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sethkWebLOCH, then use mkfs.vfat04:27
chmod775problem solved04:27
sobersabrefor N mb of RAM you need about 2-2.5N mb of swap.04:27
sethkWebLOCH, so create one partition, and if it is sda, do  mkfs.vfat /dev/sda104:27
chmod775Does anyone know how can I install jre for firefox04:27
chmod775?04:27
WebLOCHElitePete, by default xbox hard drives are locked, you will need to unlock it whilst it is in that xbox to use it externally04:28
sobersabrebecause disk is very slow comparing to memory.04:28
Shadyman!java04:28
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:28
sobersabrechmod775: you install java package. unrelated to ff04:28
ElitePeteWebLOCH, AHH i cant just format it? because this xbox wont read cd's04:28
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WebLOCHElitePete fraid not04:28
chmod775k04:28
Shadymansobersabre: You still have to tell FF about it, though.04:28
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ElitePeteWebLOCH, anyway to get a linux distro on this POS? remember it wont read cds04:28
Shadymanthe wiki talks about how though04:28
WebLOCHElitePete, you will need to unlock it, or at least obtain the key so that you can unlock it on a pc04:28
ubuntuvmcan anyone help me? I've just installed ubuntu 'breezy badger' on a VMware VM and it all went smoothly but it didn't give me the option to set the root passwd. Now I can't access root at all.... Any help would be appreciated04:28
WebLOCHElitePete, is it modded yet ?04:28
benplautmy grandma's computer is behind a DSL router. the ip adress the computer reports is 192.168.xx, but the ip reported from online sites is 77.19.xx... when i'm on the same network, i can FreeNX into her machine using the 192 address. how would i connect once i'm back in hawaii? i'm assuming i need some sort of port forwarding, but i have no clue. (both amchines are running ubuntu)04:28
ElitePeteWebLOCH, no04:29
Shadymanubuntuvm: There is no root.04:29
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Shadyman!root04:29
benplautsorry if someone answered before, i had to go04:29
sobersabreShadyman: you don't tell it to FF specifically, you tell it to user's environment. so everybody know of it.04:29
jbroome!tell ubuntuvm about sudo04:29
WebLOCHElitePete, you can do a memorycard softmod04:29
ubuntuvmi kno about sudo04:29
pananasobersabre : what's your language preference to developing linux in poor office like this04:29
ElitePeteWebLOCH, will i need to use cd's at some point?04:29
jbroome!tell ubuntuvm aboutroot04:29
sobersabreShadyman: there is root. sudo su -04:29
ubuntuvmso I just use sudo, no root access04:29
cafuegobenplaut: Dammit!04:29
WebLOCHElitePete, not if you have a usb stick/memory card handy04:29
WebLOCHsethk, mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdf104:29
jbroome!tell ubuntuvm about root04:29
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i have a usb stick?04:29
Shadymansobersabre: I know, but it is not a "login"04:29
cafuegosobersabre: 'sudo -i' is a lot less typing.04:30
ElitePeteWebLOCH, how do i mod it ;-)04:30
Shadymanfrom the boot screen04:30
WebLOCHElitePete, do you have an adapter to allow you to use it with the xbox ?04:30
ElitePeteWebLOCH, no04:30
benplautcafuego: ?04:30
WebLOCHElitePete, then im afraid you still cant mod it04:30
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i want to get some use out of this badboy04:30
ubuntuvmummmm.... why is this exaclty? (first time ubuntu user)04:30
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i wonder how i get a mem card..04:30
WebLOCHyou will need an adapter or to use a replacement dvd drive temporarily04:30
cafuegoubuntuvm: Indeed. Your user account can run 'sudo -i' for a root shell or 'sudo <command>' to run anything as root.04:30
naliothsobersabre: ubuntu doesnt ship with an active root account for a reason. please respect that reason when giving advice. (using a root account causes problems with ubuntu)04:30
cafuego!rootsudo04:30
ubotusomebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:30
ElitePeteWebLOCH, i have a dvd drive04:30
WebLOCHElitePete, is it an xbox one?04:31
sobersabrepanana: what do you mean ? native language or programming language ?04:31
ubuntuvmfair enuff... thanks for your help04:31
cafuegoubuntuvm: Read And Thou Shallst Learn04:31
ElitePeteWebLOCH, no ;-)04:31
ubuntuvmno time... no time...04:31
ubuntuvm;)04:31
sethkWebLOCH, if you really typed sdf1, then that's wrong04:31
WebLOCHElitePete, then that is academic im afraid haha, unless its reflashable with an xdvds bios04:31
sobersabrenalioth: I've had no problems whatsoever... so I am talking only wth "MHO"04:31
WebLOCHsethk, thats what it was listed as when using it earlier04:31
sethkWebLOCH, did you run fdisk on it first?04:31
ElitePeteWebLOCH, so what do i need to get to run Linux on this puppy/04:31
cafuegosobersabre: You don't have the same setup as everyone else.04:31
sethkWebLOCH, remember I told you that you had likely formatted the entire device instead of a partition04:32
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naliothsobersabre: MHO would make ubuntu devs shriek and run in insane circle. therefore i advise ubuntu methods in here04:32
sethkWebLOCH, to format the entire device, use /dev/sdf04:32
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WebLOCHsethk   /dev/sdf1   *           1        1013     1021072+   6  FAT1604:32
chmod775there an mozilla-jre plugin in repositroty04:32
pananasobersabre : which one is the best04:32
sobersabrenalioth: which problems can arise ? ( me is curious mamal )04:32
chmod775I get an j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depends: gsfonts-x11 but it is not installable04:32
sethkWebLOCH, yes, that's before you erased it04:32
WebLOCHSethk, no thats the output NOW04:32
naliothubotu: tell sobersabre about root04:32
naliothsobersabre: read the wiki article04:32
ElitePeteWebLOCH, so what do i need to get to run Linux on this puppy/04:32
chmod775which package should I install04:32
sethkWebLOCH, then it is formatted04:32
chmod775?04:32
navaronefat16?04:32
sethkWebLOCH, so you can mount it04:32
WebLOCHsethk, then i did indeed kill it04:32
chmod775gsfonts-x11 does'nt exists04:33
WebLOCHsethk please advise, im lost04:33
chmod775?04:33
sethkWebLOCH, formatting something is hardly killing it04:33
sethkWebLOCH, I thought you wanted to format it04:33
WebLOCHElitePete, you will need a memcard adapter or to replace the drive temporarily04:33
pananasobersabre : usually i used vb6 on windows04:33
Shadyman!dappy04:33
ubotuI haven't a clue, Shadyman04:33
sobersabrepanana: which vehicle is the best ? bmw or volvo ? or ferrari ? or tractor ?04:33
chmod775!j2re04:33
ubotuchmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?04:33
sethkWebLOCH, did you use sudo when you did mkfs.vfat?04:33
dodgyvilleI have a zoran video capture card in my computer, but the driver doesn't seem to load04:33
WebLOCHsethk i do. however it appears I dont have a clue, so if you could takle me step by step04:33
sobersabreor combine ?04:33
WebLOCHsethk yes i used sudo04:33
naliothubotu: tell chmod775 about java04:33
ElitePeteWebLOCH, hmm how do i get a memcard adaptor04:33
navaronesobersabre, depends on how it is to be used...<s>04:33
sethkWebLOCH, ok.  you want to read it in windows?  Is that why you want to use fat32?04:33
Shadyman!dapper04:34
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake04:34
dwhsixbtw (back to an earlier topic), turning off CD auto-play in gnome seems to have been the trick to boosting ripping speed to an acceptable 5x... mentioned in a few places in forums04:34
WebLOCHElitePete, you can buy one, or if you have a soldering iron you can make one04:34
WebLOCHsethk yeah id like to read it in windows aswell as linux04:34
ElitePeteWebLOCH, buy, what website ?04:34
pananasobersabre : i see04:34
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WebLOCHElitePete, dunno for your area of the world, check out http://www.divineo.com04:34
sobersabrenavarone: you mean you can do everything with any vehicle ?04:34
sethkWebLOCH, did you do this:    sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1    ?04:34
pananasobersabre :  (.) (.)04:35
cafuego!info gsfonts-x1104:35
ubotugsfonts-x11: (Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.17ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB04:35
pananasobersabre :    ..04:35
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WebLOCHsethk yes04:35
sobersabrenavarone: how do you carry 2 bars of wood  in the mud with a ferrari ?04:35
WebLOCHsethk should i re-attempt it?04:35
navaronesobersabre> no I mean that each vehicle is better at cetain things...even if it is possible. I can drive a combine to work...but it will annoy the other drivers and I'll invariably be late04:35
sethkWebLOCH, can you paste the error again?04:35
ElitePeteWebLOCH, and what do i want from that website04:35
sethkWebLOCH, sure, try again and paste the error04:35
sobersabrebut you can drive with a ferrari to the closes tractor owner and pay them :)04:36
liquidten2Ok.  To speed up cd rippint the most open up gconf "applications, system tools, configuration editor" and browse to APPS - Sound Juicer - Paranoia.  Set the paranoia level to 0 and the cd will rip much faster, but there will be less error detection and repair04:36
johnsie2kanyone know how to speed up the running of a program in gnome?04:36
rabbit1I'm trying to setup my fstab file to mount ext3, what's wrong here??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/622404:36
navaronesobersabre, If I had a ferrari I'd pay someone else to drive...<s>04:36
WebLOCHElitePete, something that has an xbox controller connector at one end and a usb connector at the other, ill find you one if you give me a sec04:36
ElitePeteWebLOCH, ok thanks04:36
sobersabrenavarone: unneccessary.04:36
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sethkrabbit1, why  0 2  ?04:37
naliothWebLOCH: ElitePete can y'all discuss your xbox mechanics in #ubuntu-offtopic please?04:37
WebLOCHsethk it hasnt complained this time04:37
rabbit1sethk: the installer did it like that!04:37
sobersabreguys, I am trying to build a kernel. how can I create a .deb with the name linux-image ? ( make-kpkg creates a kernel-image package )04:37
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WebLOCHnalioth, no probs buddy04:37
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navaronesobersabre, yes...just like this topic...<s>04:37
rabbit1sethk: that just means it's in line for fsck or something doesn't it?04:37
sethkrabbit1,  it looks reasonable.  what error do you get?04:37
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WebLOCHElitePete, move you ass to offtop04:37
rabbit1sethk: I can't write to the partition04:37
sethkrabbit1, yes, but I've never seen 0 204:37
ElitePeteWebLOCH, done04:37
paulproteus|laptGnarlyBob: Still having troubles with that ACPI computer?04:38
sethkrabbit1, even with sudo?04:38
sobersabrenavarone: what does the topic says ?04:38
rabbit1sethk: with sudo I can, but not with my user04:38
sobersabrehm s/says/say/04:38
navaronesobersabre, I meant the driving topic...try to keep up04:38
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sethkrabbit1, then you have to change the privileges on the directories and files04:38
bulioto install gnome themes, I go on gnome-look.org and download one?04:38
rabbit1sethk: the rw doesn't do it?04:38
buliothen run theme manager in ubuntu?04:38
sethkrabbit1, no, rw just says that it is writable by users that have the correct permissions04:39
sobersabrenavarone: i am debuggins, compiling a kernel and scratching my a$$ and all this drained my concentration abilities.. sorry.04:39
sethkrabbit1, ro means nobody can write it04:39
paulproteus|laptGnarlyBob: My advice is that you go to the BIOS and hit the "Set to Factory Default" switch.04:39
paulproteus|laptGnarlyBob: That's what fixed the ACPI tables on th eother system.04:39
sobersabrenavarone: forgot to mention: I am also chatting04:39
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sobersabre:)04:39
rabbit1sethk:  I should use fmask and dmask?04:39
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navaronelol04:39
lennox`can someone explain to me how to use a live cd?04:40
buliodo I?04:40
sethkrabbit1, not unless there is some reason you can't change the file permissions04:40
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sethklennox`, put it in the cd drive and boot it04:40
rabbit1sethk:  how do I change permissions?04:40
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Shadymanlennox`: Put the cd in drive, and reboot.04:40
sethkrabbit1, chmod04:40
lennox`i did that04:40
pananasobersabre :   how many space of RAM used by JRE (precentage) ?04:40
lennox`but it still goes to lilo04:40
navaronelennox...you need bios to be set to boot cd first04:40
rabbit1sethk:  will I have to do that every time I reboot?04:40
sethkrabbit1, no, only once04:40
benplautso... i enabled dynamic port forwarding on UPD and TCP port 8888 (i feel very smart saying that, even though i have no clue what it means). will this let FreeNX/ssh work?04:41
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Knowerrorshow do I check if dma is enabled? and how do I enable it?04:41
dannyhello04:41
sethkbenplaut, I can't imagine that it would04:41
pananasobersabre :  10% or less ?04:41
lennox`nava04:41
benplautsethk: then what should i do? :(04:41
lennox`do i just set the cdrom as a bootable drive in bios?04:41
sethkbenplaut, it's possible if freenx forces ssh to use 888804:41
lennox`to allow it to use the live cd04:42
lennox`?04:42
Shadymanlennox`: Yes.04:42
naliothubotu: tell Knowerrors about dma04:42
sethkbenplaut, no, I've never understood why anyone would want to use freenx, so I've never bothered to learn it04:42
benplautsethk: i set it to specifically use 8888, in sshd config and freenx config04:42
dwhsixKnowerrors: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:42
sethkbenplaut, ok, then I suppose, try it04:42
benplautsethk: what woulod you recommend instead?04:42
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Knowerrorsreading it now, just asked ubotu over #in kubuntu04:42
sethkbenplaut, to do what, exactly?04:42
benplautsethk: remote admin my grandma's computer from about 10,000 miles away :P04:43
benplautand yes, i need a GUI...04:43
sethkbenplaut, use ssh with the -X flag04:43
Shadymanbenplaut: Bwahaha04:43
lennox`im not too sure about switching to ubuntu fully yet, which is why i'm asking, i'm not that good at linux, i considered getting slackware to run good a feat04:43
lennox`;p04:43
ShadymanI'm downloading Dappy livecd204:43
chmod775hey I just deleted the dbboootstrap_settings file in root is that a probelm?04:43
benplautsethk: so... "ssh -X ip.to.her.comp"?04:43
sethkbenplaut, I admin a machine in taiwan from NY with ssh -X04:43
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Shadymanlennox`: Ubuntu is way easier to use than slackware04:43
chmod775dbbootstrap_settings04:43
chmod775?04:43
pananasobersabre :  im a newbie in java can u explain that 2 me?04:43
sethkbenplaut, right, if the user names match04:44
benplautsethk: what do you mean, if they match?04:44
sethkbenplaut, if not (the user names don't match, that is), ssh -X user@ip04:44
benplautok04:44
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chmod775dbbootstrap_settings04:44
chmod775?04:44
cafuegobenplaut: Add a -C (compress) as well.04:44
sethkbenplaut, if you are logged in here as benplaut, say, and there is a benplaut user at the other end, them match04:44
lennox`one more question though, is there a console setup at all in ubuntu04:44
lennox`or is it all gui04:45
dodgyvilleAlright, I got the zoran v4l driver to load, how can I output video files to it? mplayer doesn't have a zr option available...04:45
lennox`i dont like having gui constantly04:45
ShadymanQuestion: If I were to upgrade to dappy, would my Gnome setup be affected?04:45
rabbit1sethk: do I need to specify my user?04:45
benplautsethk: so... given using the above port forwarding, and telling ssh on poth comps to listen on port 8888, that would work?04:45
oxezlennox`: the install looks like slack's04:45
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lennox`i know that, i've installed it before04:45
oxezlennox`: the same as debian04:45
sethkrabbit1, not for chmod.  It depends on how you want to set it up, though04:45
benplautdefuego, meet cafuego :)04:45
lennox`ah04:45
cafuegobenplaut: ... and if the local or remote machines are slow, '-c <cipher>' for a less cpu-intensive cipher too.04:45
ShadymanFuego~!04:45
sethkbenplaut, I suppose, although I can't imagine why you wouldn't just use the default ssh port04:45
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defuegocafuego Hi04:46
lennox`how much do you guys recommend for a swap size?04:46
oxezlennox`: I use CLI for everything that is system administration04:46
benplautsethk: i think the ISP is blocking it04:46
Shadymanlennox`: 2 to 2 and a half times your RAM size04:46
oxezlennox`: I usually use 1.5x my RAM04:46
sethkbenplaut, ok, then, that makes sense04:46
Shadymanlennox`: or 1.504:46
naliothlennox`: not more than 768mb, tho04:46
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rabbit1sethk: like so?  chmod +w /mnt/drive04:46
lennox`i'm installing it on my old hdd04:46
naliothcafuego: ping04:46
lennox`which is only 15gb04:46
sethkrabbit1, no04:46
benplauti wish i had a way to try this before i get back to hawaii :(04:46
defuegoanybody having trouble with Totem update lately?04:46
cafuegolennox`: There are no odd formulas to use anymore.04:46
sethkrabbit1, almost certainly it is already writable by its owner04:46
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lennox`can i still access my files04:47
sethkrabbit1, you have to read about how privileges work in unix04:47
cafuegolennox`: I use 256 to 512Mb04:47
lennox`that i use on os2 warp04:47
lennox`?04:47
cafuegolennox`: irrespective of ram04:47
rabbit1sethk: well then I have the wrong owner04:47
benplautsethk: do i need to enable forwarding on the router of both the client and server, or just the server?04:47
rabbit1sethk:  I know about permissions04:47
cafuegolennox`: There used to be a 2xram rule with old 2.2 ekrnels, but no more.04:47
Shadymanbenplaut: The server.04:47
hangfirenot over double your ram04:47
benplautthanks04:47
lennox`this is nice, atleast im not getting shit for asking stupid questions04:47
lennox`thank you guys very much04:47
Shadymanlennox`: I as stupid questions all the time :D04:47
benplautok, i'm outta here... i'm jetlagged to hell :|04:47
naliothlennox`: please respect us with your language choices04:47
sethkrabbit1, you can change the owner.  It's unlikely that you really want to, but you can.  use chown -R to change all the files on the file system04:48
naliothrabbit1: if you change all the perms on your local file system, you box won't work anymore04:48
sethknalioth, it isn't his local file system04:48
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rabbit1nalioth: it's an empty partition04:49
naliothsethk: ok. i'm just pointing things out for folks who lurk04:49
sethknalioth, it isn't his root file system or his usr or any other important one04:49
sethknalioth, right.04:49
sethkrabbit1, if it is empty, then chown is perfectly reasonable.  You didn't tell me it is empty.  :)04:49
silverbladewho can tell me all version of ubuntu04:50
naliothsilverblade: help.ubuntu.com04:50
rabbit1sethk:   so..   will this work?   chmod +w /mnt/drive  ??04:50
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silverbladeok thx04:51
sethkrabbit1, unlikely.  I don't know the current permissions, but unless it is read only for everyone and everything, that won't work.  we already talked about that04:51
fevelim having trouble with nvidia svideo04:51
fevelcan anyone help me out?04:51
naliothfevel: ask a question with info in it04:51
fevelthe screen apperas to be too much to the right04:52
Shadymanfevel: what kind of trouble?04:52
rabbit1sethk: the permission are:        drwxr-xr-x04:52
fevelon the tv04:52
sethkrabbit1, then chmod +w won't change anything04:52
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rabbit1sethk: that's for   /mnt/drive04:52
rabbit1sethk:  what should I do so my user can write to it?04:52
sethkrabbit1, you didn't tell me the owner.  If you want it to be read/write for all, do  chmod a+w04:52
rabbit1sethk:  I don't know the owner?  It's mounted through fstab? who's the owner then?04:53
concept10Anyone here play the game TORCS?04:53
sethkrabbit1, everything is mounted, what difference does that make?  the owner is shown by ls -l04:53
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rabbit1sethk:   doesn't ls -l   just show directory contents?04:54
rabbit1sethk:   you mean permissions!04:54
sethkrabbit1, use ls -ld04:54
sethkrabbit1, no, I mean owner04:54
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tonyyarussoWhere can I look for information about hardware acceleration and configuring ATI graphics?04:54
rabbit1sethk:  oh yeah, there it is   root04:54
WebLOCHsethk fdiskstill reports /dev/sdf1 as being fat1604:55
naliothubotu: tell tonyyarusso about ati04:55
sethkrabbit1, so you can either use chown on it, or allow group or everyone to write to it04:55
sethkWebLOCH, fdisk doesn't show file system types.  fdisk will just show the partition type04:55
owneruse cfdisk04:55
owneror gparted04:56
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WebLOCHsethk i beg to differ, fdisk -l quite clearly indicates the filesystem04:56
sethkWebLOCH, no, I just ran it.  it shows the partition type, which is in general _not_ the file system type04:56
WebLOCHsays 'system' which indicated fs04:57
sethkWebLOCH, no, it doesn't indicate anything of the sort04:57
sethkWebLOCH, for example, ext2, ext3 will show as linux04:57
ownerubuntu is usually ext 304:57
chmod775Hi folks I follow the steps to install jre on firefox04:58
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chmod775but in vain04:58
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WebLOCHsethk, you are saying that the word "System" is NOT indicative of "Filesystem"04:58
sethkWebLOCH, for the third time, yes, that is what I'm saying04:58
naliothubotu: tell chmod775 about javadebs04:58
WebLOCHsethk thats just plain counter intuitive04:58
sethkWebLOCH, so?04:59
ownerwhats the best file system04:59
WebLOCHsethk, thats what i was trying to say04:59
naliothowner: they each have their pros and cons, it depends on what you're gonna do with the system04:59
sethkWebLOCH, ok04:59
ownerwhich one do you like the best nalioth04:59
naliothowner: i use ext304:59
ownerwhat about reiserfs05:00
sethkowner, I've found reiserfs to be unreliable05:00
Amaranthreiserfs is a nice idea with a poor implementation05:00
owneroh05:00
ownerbut its supposed to be fast05:01
sethkowner, in almost all cases it is not faster than ext305:01
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rabbit1sethk:  thanks it worked..  it seems the 'other' write ability is required05:02
ownerwhat about xfs05:02
rabbit1sethk: is this bad security wise at all?  (dumb question)05:03
sethkrabbit1, right, if users who don't own the file and aren't in the file's group need to write to it05:03
sethkrabbit1, depends on whether it is sensitive05:03
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sethkrabbit1, you can change it to be owned by another user and leave it writable only by owner05:03
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rabbit1sethk:  how do you change ownership?05:03
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sethkrabbit1, chown05:03
rabbit1sethk:   ah, thanks for the help05:04
wizardjameswhat would be the path of a webcam if its on usb?..05:04
rabbit1sethk:  is it possible that my user could write to this, but that root couldn't?05:05
sethkrabbit1, yes, although of course root can change the permissions05:05
intelikeysethk are you sure that you can make a file noroot access ?05:06
sethkintelikey, yes.  it was one of the things that posix changed05:06
intelikeywhen did this happen ?05:06
sethkintelikey, about 15 years ago05:06
sethkintelikey, try it05:06
intelikeyyou better test it then cause i already did05:07
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sethkintelikey, yes, I did.  If I make something non writable by root, then root can't write it05:07
pashawintelikey,   why did you ask if its possible then  say you already did it05:08
wizardjamesi got a webcam i am trying to get working..   when i do "lsusb" its there..   i tryed to find something that would see it..but nothing does.  everything keeps looking in /dev/video1 ..but its on a usb port..05:09
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renatooi05:09
intelikeypashaw because i thought maybe linux had changer from 2.4  to 2.6  with a 2.6 kernel you can not make anything non-accessable to root.05:09
renatoalguem a05:10
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intelikeypardon 2.4 kernel ^05:10
pashawrenato,  language?05:10
renatoportugues05:10
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nalioth!br05:10
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.05:10
marciotakataoi05:10
BxLcan someone tell me a startup-scirpt name in ubuntu05:11
intelikeyi just re-tested it.    touch bob ;chmod 0000 bob ;mc -e bob <typed in test and saved> ;cat bob => test05:11
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intelikeyand that's also in a dir with permission set 00005:12
rjordanAnyone have the fglrx drivers working on an AMD64 system?05:12
WebLOCHwhat do you all use for creating images?05:13
WebLOCHcreating ISO images from files on hdd that is *05:13
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pashawWebLOCH,   old  school i use cat05:13
intelikeyWebLOCH xcdroast05:13
WebLOCHpashaw, is that possible?05:13
rjordanWebLOCH, mkisofs05:13
sethkintelikey, I was talking about writing.  I didn't say that root won't be able to read.05:13
sethkintelikey, I wonder why you would see something other than what I see.05:14
intelikeyi was too seth05:14
WebLOCHrjordan, i tried mkisofs but apparently i cant get the syntax right05:14
advent_linuxany idea why breezy won't automount my usb hdd, it automounts my usb flash drive no problem05:14
sethkintelikey, what you showed was a cat, at least in what I saw05:14
intelikeylook again.05:14
rjordanWebLOCH, did you read the man page?05:14
intelikeymc -e   uses mc=midnight commander's built in editor05:15
WebLOCHrjordan, yup05:15
WebLOCHim just inept05:15
pashawWebLOCH,  cat /dev/hdc > /mnt/images/image1.iso   CD iso image05:15
sethkintelikey, oh, I don't use mc, but I'll take your word for it.05:15
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rjordanWebLOCH, I wouldn't say that, at least you can say that you read the man page. I can appreciate that you tried.05:16
intelikeysethk and why would 'touch bob ;cat bob '  give any out put?05:16
sethkintelikey, I didn't say that it would05:16
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sethkintelikey, the question is whether an error occurred05:16
pashawWebLOCH,   check this out   http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/563905:16
WebLOCHpashaw, ty05:16
sethkintelikey, although, it actually does produce output, which happens to be the empty file05:16
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intelikeyjust say you were wrong and lets move on.05:17
sethkintelikey, if you like, but I see different behavior05:17
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intelikey24 [root$~]  cat bob05:19
intelikeytest24 [root$~]  echo test2 >> bob05:19
intelikey24 [root$~]  cat bob05:19
intelikeytesttest205:19
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intelikeysame file05:19
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intelikey24 [root$~]  ls -l bob05:19
intelikey----------  1 root root 10 Dec 26 22:19 bob05:19
sethkintelikey, I believe you, I just don't see the same thing here05:19
intelikeythat's why i asked if something had changed.05:20
pashawintelikey,    read this  http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-files-immutable-which-even.html05:20
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dleHello.  I've just notived that udev is not started by default in this Breezy install.  Is that the norm for Breezy?05:23
sethkpashaw, that's interesting05:23
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pashawsethk,    yeah  if you can think it up  linux can do it05:23
poningrudle: thats not normal05:24
poningruunless you have like no devices which makes no sense05:25
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dleponingru: Wait, I just checked my processes.  It *is* running, but it's not started from /etc/init.d .  Maybe something else starts it?05:25
intelikeyhehhe  even the  At 1:02 AM, Anonymous said...   post05:25
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dleoops, not init.d, rc05:26
dleno, it was init.d. Pardon my fuzziness.05:27
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pashawdle,   you been drinking05:27
poningrudle: hmm not sure what starts up udev05:28
dlepashaw, been wassailing.05:28
dleI guess it's not an issue after all.  Ah well. :-)05:28
pashawdle,  glad we could help  :P05:29
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damian_hi guys05:29
damian_I have a question. How can you add more alternatives to the send to or how can I change evoultion with my default mail client?05:30
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damian_so quiet!05:31
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sethkdamian_, I don't quite understand the question, and I don't use evolution, so I'm not much help05:31
damian_sethk, I want to add more alternatives to the send to command05:32
GnarlyBobwhat do you mean "more alternatives" ?05:32
sethkdamian_, you mean as in reply, reply to all, etc.?05:32
GnarlyBoband what "send to" command?05:32
damian_like send to thunderbird for example05:32
naliothdamian_: system > prefs > preffered applications05:32
intelikeywhere did the wether report go in evolution,  it used to have a wether and news built-in ???05:32
sethkdamian_, send to thunderbird?05:33
GnarlyBoboooh05:33
sethkintelikey, weather05:33
intelikeyyes05:33
naliothintelikey: where indeed? i've been wondering that myself and nobody has ever answered it for me05:33
sethkdamian_, do you mean like thunderbird's send to choices?05:33
GnarlyBobI think he means like right-click a file in nautilus, have thunderbird be a possible target or something05:33
naliothsethk: he wants to change his default email client05:33
damian_yes gnarly, exactly05:33
intelikeythat ws the only think i "kinda" liked about it....05:33
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damian_nalioth i know how to make my email client the default05:33
GnarlyBobdamian_: your mentioning of "evolution" confused things05:34
damian_Sorrym Gnarly05:34
sethkwell, now that I understand the question, I still don't know the answer05:34
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GnarlyBobNor do I05:34
GnarlyBobI don't have a "send to" menu item05:35
damian_Gnarly, If you have a file and you right click you will see that option, I always liked that in windows05:35
GnarlyBobdamian_: doesn't happen for me in gnome05:35
GnarlyBoboh wait, yes it does05:36
GnarlyBobI don't have it in whatever version of gnome I'm running on this (gentoo) box, but it's there on my ubuntu laptop05:36
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sethkit is there in kde, and I could probably figure out how to change it in kde, but I don't know as much about gnome05:38
damian_So, I don't get an answer :(05:38
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GnarlyBobI could probably figure out how to change it in gnome, after much experimentation and poking around, but I cba to right now05:39
sethkdamian_, sorry, if I knew I would tell you.  :)05:39
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itro/list05:39
intelikeyisn't that kinda a long thing to be doing itro05:40
majiklantrnhaha05:41
intelikeyof course if he did that he'll never see that question.05:41
intelikeyscrolled away long ago05:41
damian_ok, bye thanks05:41
itroalguien habla espaol?05:41
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intelikey!es05:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:42
majiklantrnoh boy05:42
itrook gracias05:42
aTypical_Hello all.  Does anyone know the status of the locale problem in Dapper?05:42
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D1-anyone run ubuntu on the laptop?05:42
majiklantrnI am05:42
aTypical_Problem might not be the correct term, but it's a problem for me. :-)05:42
aTypical_D1-, I do.05:43
majiklantrnJust installed Ubunto on this laptop05:43
rabbitwhenever I reboot, my wireless connection doesn't work, I have to run  "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  to get it to work, does anyone know why?  I didn't need to do this with the liveCD05:43
D1-how do you consider the battery life?05:43
majiklantrnGreat05:43
D1-Im considering installing SUSE since it seems to have power profile management05:43
D1-but I dont know...05:43
ilba7rD1 same as window05:43
majiklantrneh05:43
majiklantrnI get the same performance05:43
majiklantrnI left SUSE for Ubunto05:43
intelikeyrabbit  put  'iwconfig wlan0 mode managed'  in one of the init scripts05:44
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rabbitintelikey: where are the init scripts ?05:44
majiklantrnD1- What kind of CPU you running?05:44
tonyyarussoD1-: I do.  IBM T43.05:44
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D1-Pentium M 72505:45
majiklantrnInteresting.05:45
majiklantrnYour battery life should be awesome.05:45
D1-its 3 hours05:45
D1-nothing spectacular05:45
majiklantrnThats decent05:45
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sethkrabbit, in /etc/init.d05:45
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tonyyarussoBattery life is okay (~1.5 hrs) normally, if I lower the brightness of the screen it's more like 2.5.05:45
GnarlyBobanything less than 3 hours is really low-end imho05:45
aTypical_D1-, I've used both Ubuntu and SUSE and don't notice a difference (although, my laptop is plugged in most of the time).05:46
majiklantrnget a mac then..05:46
intelikeymmm hmm....  well maybe you better do it this way rabbit   'echo "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed" > wlan ;chmod 700 wlan ;sudo mv wlan /etc/rc2.d/S83wlan '05:46
GnarlyBobhaha, point taken05:46
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GnarlyBob(and I would if I could afford it)05:46
psusiI've read a lot of people have trouble because of usb... for some reason the usb bus prevents the cpu from entering the C3 state to save more power05:46
tonyyarussoI didn't opt for the more expensive battery; may someday when I have money for it.05:46
intelikeythat command as is should fix you up rabbit05:46
ilba7rtonyarusso strange on my old t42 i have 3 hours. flexview display is the power hungry thing i have05:46
tonyyarussoThat's with basically constant use too, taking notes in lecture.05:46
majiklantrnI believe the process "powernowd" process should control CPU proformance, giving better battery life.. I could be mistaken though05:47
admashQuestion: Is there a linux email client that supports "tagging" of email messages (either natively or via extension)?05:47
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GnarlyBobadmash: define "tagging"05:47
majiklantrnI think ubunto loves my thinkpad more then SuSE or Fedora.05:47
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rabbitintelikey:    did you make up S83wlan?   does everything there get executed?05:47
GnarlyBobmajiklantrn: ubuntu likes my laptop (dell) more than windows did05:47
intelikeyyes and yes rabbit05:48
majiklantrnHAHAHAHA05:48
majiklantrnGnarly, NICE05:48
admashGnarlyBob: "This email gets the 'business', 'sales', and 'northwest' tags" for organizational purposes.05:48
factotumI gave suse a shot, didnt like the the config tools in their kde05:48
tonyyarussoilba7r, Did you have to configure anything for that?05:48
majiklantrnSUSE has YAST which is pretty slick..05:48
GnarlyBobadmash: thunderbird, evolution, kmail all have that ability05:48
majiklantrnbut its too bloated05:48
factotumand my xorg configuration was all messed up, couldnt get the right refresh rate going05:48
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admashGnarlyBob: Ok. good. Thanks.05:49
majiklantrnI had that problem with an external monitor.05:49
GnarlyBob(my personal recommendation is thunderbird.)05:49
rabbitintelikey:  thanks, I'll try it :)05:49
ilba7rtonyarusso nope but i heared that t43 is more power hungry that is why i got my t42 and i run it on full brightness all time05:49
admashGnarlyBob, Yes, that is my leaning also.05:49
intelikeyany time05:49
majiklantrnt43 has PCI-e.. T42 doesn't, correct?05:49
admashBTW, kudos for a great distro. Zero installation problems here on a Dell Inspiron.05:49
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tonyyarussomajiklantrn, Is there anything I need to do to use that powernowd thing?05:49
GnarlyBobok, I really gotta figure out why ubuntu won't install on my pc05:50
intelikeydoes kmail do html yet ?05:50
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GnarlyBobregeya_: I just use folders, usually.05:50
majiklantrntonyyarusso, no.. should be good by default.. I know there were some ACPI updates after my installation of Ubunto.05:50
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regeya_oh.  well, same here.05:50
GnarlyBobwith filters05:50
admashGnarlyBob, what's it doing?05:50
GnarlyBobso my mail gets sorted into folders as it arrives05:50
ilba7rmajiklantm do not know frankly05:50
regeya_Gnarlybob: Well, same here.05:50
regeya_I often do the sorting manually tho05:51
aTypical_No info on that locales issue in Dapper?05:51
majiklantrnilba7r, what?05:51
GnarlyBobadmash: I've gotten to the point where installation of base system craps out trying to find tar05:51
ilba7ranyone know how to view m4v video file05:51
GnarlyBobhad that on 2 of the 5 breezy cd's sent from canonical05:51
admashGnarlyBob, Where did you get your iso?05:51
regeya_anything in the Inbox is actionable until I sort it.  I find that people tend to send me things in a totally random way so filters do me no good.05:51
ilba7rmajiklantm you asked about PCI-e05:51
majiklantrnGnarlyBob, scratch on disk?05:51
GnarlyBobnone visible05:51
majiklantrnilba7r, oh.. Yeah.. I think T43 has PCI-E.. that could be a performace Hog.05:52
regeya_ilba7r, I'm assuming that's an mpeg4 video...xine, totem-xine, mplayer...05:52
intelikeyvlc05:52
Shadymanwhat about the invisible ones?05:52
GnarlyBobsomebody mentioned that there is an option in the install to verify the media, but I can't find it05:52
regeya_or vlc...05:52
Shadymanit's always the invisible scratches that get you.05:52
ilba7rregeya will try again thanx05:52
majiklantrnGnarlyBob, Try copying the whole CD to a HDD.. see if it gets stuck.05:52
admashGnarlyBob, Ah. I had problems with an iso downloaded via BitTorrent. Downloaded direct and it worked great. Coulda been a scratched cd though. dunno.05:52
naliothGnarlyBob: after you enter your language and the first couple of things, hit "esc" and choose verify05:52
majiklantrnInstallation Failures suck.05:53
ilba7rgmplayer did the trick. Strange totem did not though i have totem-xine05:53
GnarlyBobactually, that is just the last of a series of extremely frustrating install issues, many of which date back years and are indigenous to any debian-based distro05:53
GnarlyBobnalioth: thank you!05:53
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majiklantrnGnarlyBob, get DVD support working in Ubunto yet?05:53
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GnarlyBobmajiklantrn: I've only gotten ubuntu successfully running on my laptop so far, and that doesn't have dvd05:54
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majiklantrnDarn..05:54
majiklantrnI have yet to try to get it working.05:54
regeya_!botsnack05:54
ubotuthanks regeya_ :)05:54
GnarlyBob!botsex05:54
ubotuGnarlyBob: Syntax error in line 105:54
ShadymanI'm burning me a Dappy Livecd to see if it fixes my ACPI problems05:54
GnarlyBobhaha05:54
regeya_rofflecopters05:54
regeya_!botrofflecopters05:55
uboturegeya_: Are you smoking crack?05:55
regeya_indeed.05:55
Shadymanrofflecopter05:55
pashawmajiklantrn, ???  my DVDs work fine05:55
GnarlyBobrofflecopter and lollerblades05:55
Shadymanand lmaonade05:55
GnarlyBobhaha05:55
majiklantrnpashaw, DVD movies?05:55
GnarlyBobi like that one!05:55
pashawmajiklantrn,   only played   avi off DVD05:56
GnarlyBobmajiklantrn: it should just work05:56
pashawmajiklantrn,  sorry05:56
tonyyarussoHas anyone seen Firefox 1.5 crash if it gets a lot of tabs open?05:56
majiklantrnI tried "Mr. and Mrs. Smith".. I think I need to get the codec or something.05:56
GnarlyBobtonyyarusso: not I, and I've had ~60 tabs open at once05:56
majiklantrnI would upgrade to Firefox 1.5 if it supported Rhapsody.05:56
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majiklantrnGnarlyBob, wow..05:56
tonyyarussoGnarlyBob, I think I was at about 40-50 when mine died just now.05:57
tonyyarussoHeavily extended too.05:57
GnarlyBobI was playing around, and did a "open all links in tabs" trick05:57
GnarlyBobit was not happy, for sure, but it did it05:57
GnarlyBoband I closed them each individually05:57
majiklantrnGnarlyBob, was that out of boredem?05:58
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GnarlyBoband it seemed to clean up nicely, resource-wise05:58
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GnarlyBobmajiklantrn: playing with greasemonkey :)05:58
vircuserwhat are the system requirements of ubuntu linux on a x86 system05:58
tuvcan i configure wpa_supplicant to use a static ip for a network and dhcp for another?05:58
psusivircuser, whatever you care to give it.... heh05:58
intelikeyresource wise ?    resource retarded ?05:58
GnarlyBobvircuser: you could install and run a minimal system on a 386 with 8MB and 200MB hdd05:58
tonyyarussovircuser, I know they're on the web site.  The only one I remember is 128M RAM if you want X running.05:59
vircuserokay, thx05:59
GnarlyBob(not much different from my first linux box :D )05:59
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qwertythats alot05:59
qwertybut w/e05:59
GnarlyBobwhat's a lot?05:59
majiklantrnI don't think DVD support is out of the box with Ubunto... unless I am wrong.05:59
qwertynvm05:59
crimsuntuv: wpa supplicant doesn't care about the IPs05:59
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crimsuntuv: that's handled by /etc/network/interfaces (and generally dhclient above that)06:00
qwertyi havnt really used ubuntu alot, i have it though, is it good06:00
psusimajiklantrn, you need to install libdvdcss... stupid DMCA makes it illegal to distribute in the US06:00
majiklantrnpsusi, those lamers06:00
qwertyive heard it can support alot of devices06:00
Shadymangood thing im not in US.06:00
majiklantrnpsusi, does that work with totem?06:00
psusimajiklantrn, yea06:00
tuvcrimsun: doesn't interfaces file work the same way it does in debian?06:01
ShadymanHey guys, if I install dappy over breezy, are my gnome settings going to get erased?06:01
psusimajiklantrn, I switched to totem-xine though... works better for me06:01
crimsuntuv: yes06:01
majiklantrnpsusi, I'll give it a shot.06:01
majiklantrnpsusi, thanks.06:01
tuvi used mapping to configure static and dhcp depending on ssid, but for some reason it doesn't work06:01
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pashawmajiklantrn,   you made me check   playing return of the king DVD right now06:02
crimsuntuv: are you using p{re,ost}-up directives in /etc/network/interfaces?06:02
tuvcrimsun: no ip's get assigned from either mapping configuration06:02
franky123i just switched monitors from one that could do 1024x768 to one that could do 1280x1024 and i'm not sure how to set up gnome to use that resolution. help?06:02
majiklantrnpashaw, haha.. nice..06:02
sethkfranky123, the easy way is to go to resolution in the system/preferences menu06:02
j-linuxI've been using Hoary for months... Just started using Breezy... This is amazing... Flash installs in Firefox without a problem...06:03
tuvcrimsun: do i have to? wpa_supplicant is working fine and i suppose it needs the interface up to do so.. so i think the interface is already up06:03
franky123sethk: it only lets me change resolutions from 1024 ... down, not up06:03
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Shadymanfranky: You have to go in and edit an Xconf file or something06:03
franky123i mean, 1280x1024 is not one of the options, i tried editing xorg.conf ... but i'm not that smart06:03
Shadymanx.conf i think06:03
sethkfranky123, then it believes either that your card can't do better, or your monitor can't do better.  Did it detect the new monitor?06:03
Shadymanyeah that's the one06:03
majiklantrnpsusi, Did you do it with an apt-get or compile the source?06:03
sethkfranky123, you may need to reconfigure to get it to notice that the monitor is different06:03
franky123sethk: no, i know that for a fact. xorg.conf still said the old monitor was being used.06:04
franky123sethk: how would i go about doing that?06:04
psusimajiklantrn, apt-get iirc... there was a howto on the wiki iirc06:04
crimsuntuv: wpa supplicant doesn't care whether the ifaces are up (hence the -w flag)06:04
majiklantrnok06:04
qwertywhat is ubuntu good for06:04
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Shadymanqwerty: Computing.06:04
psusiqwerty, making people ask questions06:04
qwertylol06:05
crimsuntuv: what you need to do, if you're not using my packages in Dapper, is configure wpa supplicant as pre-ups in your /etc/network/interfaces06:05
qwertyfunny06:05
majiklantrnqwerty, getting laid06:05
franky123qwerty: ubuntu is good for you06:05
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tuvcrimsun: i'm trying to avoid that.. can't i just add "preup ifconfig eth1 up" or something06:05
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crimsuntuv: you shouldn't call ifconfig [..]  up in /etc/network/interfaces (generally)06:06
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annibisI just got a new hard drive, can anyone help me with the process to get it working06:07
tuvcrimsun: so you are saying that relying on wpa_supplicant to choose the network can never work?06:07
gezimHi all. Where are the insturctions on getting 3d acceleration for my card working?06:07
crimsuntuv: no, that's not what I'm saying at all06:07
crimsuntuv: I'm saying you shouldn't make tuv handle IP assignment06:07
gezimannibis, you should be able to plug it in (after turning machine off) and ubunut should recognize new hd06:07
crimsuns/tuv/wpa supplicant/06:07
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tuvcrimsun: am i and wpa_supplicant that confusing? :)06:08
crimsuntuv: at times06:08
franky123anybody know how i can get X to realize im using a differnt monitor so i can change the resolution?06:08
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annibisgezim, it does not I have tried partioning it, and mounting it but I can never see it in the file browser06:08
crimsun!tell franky123 about fixres06:09
Jeeves_mossfrogzoo:  you here tonight?06:09
franky123thank you.06:09
gezimannibis, so ubuntu sees it but not the file browser?06:09
tuvcrimsun: but if i have to run wpa_supplicant as a preup then i cannot let it choose the network since a preup is specific to a given network already chosen by interfaces file06:09
gezim!tell me about 3d acceleration06:09
crimsuntuv: you're confusing ssid preference with IP lease06:09
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annibisgezim, I can go to the disk viewer and browser it that way but that is the only way it will like me access it06:10
crimsuntuv: note that in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, you can set priorities for given network stanzas06:10
majiklantrn!tell fixres06:10
gezimannibis, is it being mounted?06:10
Jeeves_mossall: does any one here have ANY experiance with Ubuntu and a Compaq RAID card?06:10
tuvcrimsun: consider the case where i have a 1-to-1 mapping between networks and ip configurations06:10
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crimsuntuv: that doesn't matter; your issue lies in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf06:11
gezimanybody...I need 3d acceleration (fglrx). How do I install it. Where is that page which I can no longer find?06:11
gezim!tell me about fglrx06:11
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dragoonim having issues with xinerama06:12
Jeeves_mossgezim:  have you looked into the package bundler for ubuntu?06:12
dragooni have no cursor in any opengl things06:12
mgbaronhi, im trying to access AR object methods using the send() method to call a dynamic attribute.  this has been working fine but now I need to access an a method on top of that attribute.  The value of the attribute is stored in a string, so I need to be able to do something like obj.send("method1.method2").  does anyone know how this is possible?06:12
dragoonwell i do - and it disappears when i use it06:12
gezimJeeves_moss, no. there was a page with insturction (looked like ubuntu faq) but I can't find it anymore.06:12
Jeeves_mosscirmsun:  do you know anything about Compaq RAID cards?  I'm getting an error with mine and I'd REALY like to get this POS server up tonight.06:12
Jeeves_mossgezim:  give me a sec.  I've got an idea.06:13
tuvcrimsun: but why isn't the interfaces file working for my case?06:13
crimsunJeeves_moss: sorry, RAID's not my specialty.06:13
tuvcrimsun: the interface is up as ifconfig shows it06:13
gezimJeeves_moss, thanks.06:13
mgbaronerrr, wrong channel06:13
Jeeves_mossgezim:  whats the card you've got again?06:13
psusiJeeves_moss, what's the error?06:13
crimsuntuv: sanitise your /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin it06:14
psusiand are you using a proprietary driver, or is there one in the linux kernel that supports that device?06:14
gezimJeeves_moss, ati radeo 9700 (mobile)06:14
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Jeeves_mosspusisi:  it goes to boot, and then errors out on "ALERT! /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist"06:15
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psusiJeeves_moss, what is the boot device supposed to be?06:15
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Avenhow do I upload files with ACSII mode?06:16
dragoonany ideas ?06:16
psusiAven, using what tool/protocol?06:16
Jeeves_mossit shoudl be that compaq aray.  I used "smartstart" to RIAD 0 the 2 drives together, then told the installer to use the free space on the /c0d0p1 aray to install.  the install went fine, then it reboots, gives me that error, then drops to busybox shell.06:17
Avennautilus06:17
crimsunmost ftp clients default to binary mode; you have to force ascii mode explicitly06:17
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Avencrimsun: I do06:17
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psusiJeeves_moss, you had to run this "smartstart" by hand during the install?  where did this come from?06:17
Jeeves_mossgezim:  are you sure its a 9700?  All I see on ATI's website is the single mobile chipset driver.  Try d-loading the source packages.06:17
Avenhow do you upload files in gftp though?06:17
crimsunAven: you shouldn't have to use ascii mode at all06:17
Avendrag-and-drop doesn't work06:17
Avencrimsun: a forum software needs to be uploaded in ACSII mode06:18
Jeeves_mosspusui:  you have to run it to "wipe" the old configurations out of the server and to set up the RAID drives.06:18
Avenor it would receive an internal server error, which I keep getting06:18
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone06:18
gezimJeeves_moss, I tried that but it's RPM and I don't want to deal with rpms. This darned ubuntu site had the information I need and everyone seemd to know it last night :(06:18
tuvcrimsun: pasted: tuv-interface06:19
psusiJeeves_moss, if you boot from the livecd, does it see any drives?06:19
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  I just don't know WHY it installed fine, then decided to crash out when I rebooted.  I would think that if there was a problem accessing the RAID drive, then the installer woulden't let you finish installing.06:19
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psusiJeeves_moss, my guess is that that program also configures the kernel to recognize the raid array... which needs to be done during every boot ( and isn't )06:20
majiklantrnWhat is "Extra-Repository" with Ubunto ?06:20
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  I haven't tried it yet.  its just that I'm on a SLOW wireless connection so it takes a while.06:20
rabbitintelikey: still here?06:20
tuvcrimsun: the mapping script echos either eth1-home or eth1-other06:20
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smallfoothello06:20
smallfooti was wondering if there are any gay people here06:20
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smallfootwho is interested in making a ubuntu fork for gay people06:20
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  give me a few mins, I'll see if I've got the ISO kicking around on my netowrk,06:20
smallfootit will have a pink background wallpaper06:20
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psusiJeeves_moss, I wonder if this card is a fake hardware raid like the one I have on my motherboard?06:20
Kyral...06:20
BxLsmallfoot, i have a pink wallpaper06:21
smallfootcool06:21
smallfootwish to contribute it?06:21
majiklantrnI have a pink wallpaper also06:21
Avensmallfoot: I was wondering if you would shut the fuck up06:21
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tonyyarussosmallfoot, And that would need an entire fork why?06:21
Jeeves_mossno, this is a knowen issue with this G1 server (its a DL380), and no one has been able to crack it.06:21
smallfootAven, hmm... nope?06:21
Avenhmm? yes06:21
majiklantrnPink is my favorite color..06:21
smallfoottonyyarusso, i dont know06:21
pk_volthow long did it take you guys to figure out how to use fvwm06:21
psusiJeeves_moss, if it is a hardware fakeraid then you might find some insight from the howto I wrote on using ones like mine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto06:21
majiklantrnpsusi, Do you know what "Extra-Repository" is?06:22
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  fake RAID?  why woudl it be that?  this is a rackmount server thats totaly hardware baised for RAID.  there is an actual modual that plugs into the MoBo for it.06:22
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone again.. does anybody knows how can I configure my printer to work on linux?06:22
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crimsuntuv: does this interfaces(5) work in Debian?06:23
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tsumeI'm getting errors when performing a apt-get update06:23
tsumeanyone else getting them? It worked this morning..06:23
Shadymantsume what kind of errors?06:23
crimsuntsume: try another mirror first.06:23
Avenso anyone have any sort of ideas how to upload files in nautlius with ACSII mode?06:23
tuvcrimsun: i didn't try this file in particular but i had a similar one sometime ago and unfortunately lost it.. so from memory: yes. do you see something wrong?06:23
psusiJeeves_moss, I have a sata fakeraid on my motherboard... the raid is implemented in software by the bios and either a proprietary driver on windows, or the kernel device mapper driver on linux...06:24
majiklantrntsume, Just tried it, works06:24
smallfoot!troll world peace nothing but06:24
ubotusmallfoot: I don't know06:24
psusiJeeves_moss, maybe yours isn't fakeraid... but it sounds like it has some special requirements that might be similar06:24
smallfoothey why it dont work this time?06:24
smallfootoops, they kicked m06:24
smallfootlol06:24
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tsumecrimsun: checinghttp://rafb.net/paste/results/V71dKz19.html06:24
crimsuntuv: your mapping eth1 stanza doesn't actually map anywhere06:24
psusiJeeves_moss, you will need to figure out exactly what this "smartstart" does to get the kernel to see the raid... it may just load a kernel module... in that case, you need to get that module into the initrd06:24
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psusiAven, you are uplading plain text files?06:25
tuvcrimsun: what am i missing?06:25
Jeeves_mosspsusi: oh, ok.  I don't think this is one.  I think its totaly a true hardware baised RAID.  I'll see if I can find the URL to the unit.  As for SmartStart, its just for configuring the servers "bios"06:25
crimsuntuv: you need to tell it (underneath script /usr/local[..] ) to map FOO eth1-home\nmap FOO2 eth1-other06:25
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Avenpsusi: yes06:25
Avenand files06:26
crimsuntuv: where FOO{2} are the outputs from the /usr/local[..]  script you specify in mapping eth106:26
Aven*folders06:26
Avenfolders and files06:26
crimsuntuv: take a look at the example in interfaces(5)06:26
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psusiAven, it really should be just fine in binary mode... try using the command line ftp program which can do ascii mode to see if that's the problem06:26
tuvcrimsun: but the output is already eth1-home or eth1-other06:26
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sorush20can i install gtk2 and gtk at the same time?06:26
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  here is my toy.  http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl380/index-1ghz.html06:26
Avenhmm06:26
Avensecond question...06:26
crimsuntuv: but that hasn't been associated with your mapping eth106:27
Avenhow do you upload files in gftp?06:27
ShadymanJeeves_moss: Yummy.06:27
Avendrag-and-drop won't work06:27
psusiJeeves_moss, it sounds like it may be the same as the dmraid utility I use for my fakeraid... at the least though, if it is a hardware raid, it probably has to load a kernel module to talk to it06:27
crimsuntuv: as far as ifupdown is concerned, it has no idea what to do with the output from that script06:27
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dragoonguys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser06:27
zozvozozoHello, new to ubuntu. unable to find glibc in the repository. i understand libc6-dev contains this?06:27
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  did you check the link?06:28
tsumeokay just the main mirror is broken06:28
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Shadymanzozvozozo: sudo apt-get install dev-essentials06:28
tsumethe server runs a update later anyway, so I'll just change it back :)06:28
mcjerrydoes anyone have vmware installed?06:28
Shadymanmcjerry: Yep06:28
tsumemajiklantrn: yes06:28
smallfootis it true that ubuntu shipped with porn?06:28
tsumeops06:28
andreihello everybody06:28
tonyyarussoAven: With the arrow.06:28
Shadymansmallfoot: Yeah, and it's pretty good, too.06:28
tsumesmallfoot: bsd pr0n06:29
smallfootcool06:29
tsumesmallfoot: banging the penguin ;)06:29
psusiJeeves_moss, looking at it now...06:29
Shadymanbwahaha06:29
crimsuntuv: have you stepped through the script's output?06:29
Aventonyyarusso: what arrow?06:29
bob_4_a_dayhmmmm i just played an mp3 with vlc  and the sound was fine but the screen was blank   what did i do wrong ?06:29
tuvcrimsun: ok.. corrected it: added "map HOME eth1-home \n map OTHER eth1-other" where HOME or OTHER is the output of the script. still the interface is not configured06:29
Avenohh, I get it now06:29
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  there is lots of support for RedCrap and Suse.06:29
Aventy06:29
tonyyarussoAven: The one pointing between the local and remote sites.06:29
Avenyeah06:29
tonyyarussoAven: np.06:29
rabbitWhenever I boot my wireless doesn't work until I 'deactivate' and then 'activate' my wlan connection     (before I also had to do "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  but I put that in a startup script)06:29
smallfootis ubuntu the most widely used linucks distribution?06:29
tuvcrimsun: yes.. the script works fine06:29
sorush20its amazing how little space all the installations and all the programs take in liux?06:29
sorush20linux06:29
tuvcrimsun: it outputs either HOME or OTHER. that's it06:30
psusiJeeves_moss, aye... but the problem with proprietary crap like this is they don't tell you what they are doing, so when it doesn't "just work" you can't fix it06:30
crimsuntuv: can you manually invoke ifup and have it work properly?06:30
crimsuntuv: if so, you're just missing the auto eth106:30
mcjerryShadyman: i have Dapper and installed vmware today....i have the knoppix cd in /dev/hda and vmware says no cdrom inserted06:30
Shadymanmcjerry: Uh, sorry, never tried it on linux :D06:30
andreiI just finished instaling Ubuntu on my ibook, can anyone help me do the wifi work ?06:30
smallfootwhat is the best operating system)06:31
Avenyes, ascii works!06:31
smallfootA) ms windows06:31
psusiJeeves_moss, but I'll bet you the utility you ran loaded a kernel module to talk to the controller... you need to figure out where that module is and built it into your initrd so it's availible on reboot06:31
smallfootB) ubuntu linux06:31
smallfootc) MCTOINSH06:31
tuvcrimsun: hmm.. very good point.. let me check06:31
Shadymansmallfoot: That's only cause it ships with pr0n.06:31
Shadyman;)06:31
smallfootok06:31
smallfootcould be06:31
Zahrberanyone able to get a USB wifi adapter to work06:31
zozvozozocannot find package dev-essentials06:31
crimsunzozvozozo: build-essential?06:31
zozvozozotrying06:31
ShadymanThat might be it.06:31
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  well, I'd like to get this server running @ some point.  I LOVE ubuntu (and hate red Crap), so I need to find a way around this.  I love this ugly little server, and I'd hate to see it go to waste.06:31
rabbitWhenever I boot my wireless doesn't work until I 'deactivate' and then 'activate' my wlan connection     (before I also had to do "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  but I put that in a startup script)06:32
smallfootTRIVIA QUESTIONS! What is the best OS? A: Windows XP, B: Ubuntu Linux, C: Mac OS X, D: NetBSD ?06:32
crimsunsmallfoot: -EOFFTOPIC06:32
ShadymanERR_OFFTOPIC; Kernel Panic!06:32
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  if you don't care about rebooting your card, then make a startup script.  VERY simple.  No sense making more work for your self.06:32
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psusiJeeves_moss, then I'd say boot from the livecd... my guess is it won't see any drives until you run this "smartstart" thing... so you'll have to see what module it loads to be able to access the drives06:32
smallfootTRIVIA QUESTIONS! Who is most cute? A: Linus Torvalds, B: Richard Stallman, C: Steve Ballmer06:32
rabbitJeeves_moss:  how how how ? : )06:33
Zahrbermy USB wifi isn't seen when I plug it in...I am wondering how to install the module for it06:33
Shadyman!spam06:33
ubotuNo idea, Shadyman06:33
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smallfootok06:33
alphaanyone play with digital sat cards and ubuntu?06:33
bob_4_a_dayhow do you spell troll smallfoot ?06:33
rabbitJeeves_moss:  why would I care about rebooting my card?   nothing bad with that is it?06:33
mcjerryShadyman: i am such a dumbass, answered my own question,  virtual machine settings for cdrom was /dev/hdb and i changed it to /dev/hda and is working now06:33
odatanyone have any insight on this whole SCO lawsuit?06:33
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Shadymanmcjerry: :D06:33
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  the smart start CD only sets up such things as the time, locations, and does basic RAID setups.  It dosen't do anything other than make the RAID set up (from physical to logical)06:34
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crimsunodat: probably a very poor place to gain insight; groklaw is better for that06:34
odatcrimsun, k thanx06:34
psusiJeeves_moss, I'll bet $5 that it loads the kernel module that talks to the raid hardware06:34
psusiJeeves_moss, and since that module isn't in your initrd, the kernel can't talk to the raid hardware when you reboot06:35
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  unless you see smoke running out the side of your laptop, then don't worry about it.  My Toshiba Sta 20 does that.  its a pain in the ass.  Once the system boots, it "flashes" the power to the card.  Then you have to either physicaly turn it off and on again, or just tell the OS to reboot it.  One thing you might do if the actual hardware is resetting it see if you can configure the card as a hotplugable card so the OS wil06:35
tuvcrimsun: yes.. it is working with my pasted interfaces as is.. the map part of the mapping is obviously for passing parmaters to the script, which i don't need. i just had to replace network with netmask in the static part.. thanks man06:35
Jeeves_mossrabbit:watchdog on it.06:35
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blankywhat window manager do they use here? http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/chp_01/programs.html06:36
crimsuntuv: ah, great. Good thing I overlooked that one (d'oh!)06:36
josh14#linux06:36
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  damn it.  so now what do I do?  the SmartStart CD is compleatly seprate from install of the OS.  Once the server's hardware is set up, then it behaves like a normal PC with no boot disk.06:37
Kyralblanky: its most likely something liek AfterStep or CDE06:37
blankyCDE or AfterStep, okay06:37
blankythanks06:37
rabbitJeeves_moss:  watchdog?06:37
KyralI think06:37
psusiJeeves_moss, wait... when you installed ubuntu, you didn't have to boot the setup cd, then switch to a console or something and mess with smartstart, then continue with the install?06:38
zozvozozocan i not get and install dev-essentials (or build-essentials) via Adept?06:38
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  yes, the OS will poll the card every once and a while to see if its still attached, and if it sees that its re-attached, it reinstalls it into the system.  No need to keep rebooting the card in the OS06:38
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tsumeodat: yeah.. <SCO> we want money! <linux users converting SCO systems> No06:38
tsume<SCO> WE want MONEY!!!!! NOWW!!!! <linux users who converted> Nooo!!06:38
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Shadymanhehe06:39
psusihehehe06:39
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  nope.  you run the SmartStart CD.  It sets up the hardware stuff, then you reboot the computer with the new OS CD in the drive.  Then the PC behaves just like a regular PC with no OS installed.06:39
tsume<SCO> We'll sue!! <linux users leet> go ahead.. <SCO> WHHHAAA!!!!!!!06:39
rabbitJeeves_moss:    so are hotpluggable and watchdog 2 different things?06:39
psusiJeeves_moss, hrm.... then it sounds like the livecd should just see the drive... boot it up and find out...06:39
bob_4_a_dayblanky studing ruby ?06:39
tsumeruby power! :)06:40
blankybob_4_a_day, nah, not now at the moment, just came across it. I just got a book on python yesterday, but ruby for sure soon06:40
Shadymantsume: <SCO Computers> *shutting down in 5.. 4.. 3..* <SCO> Dang you, linux geeks and your leetness! <linuxers> Bwahaha.06:40
Jeeves_moss"hotpluggable" HAS a watchdog running on it.  think about it like a PCMICA card being inserted.  if there wasen't a "watchdog" running on the ports, than the PC woulden't know when you installed a crad.06:40
odattsume, the whole idea is a scary one though06:40
bob_4_a_dayblanky looked at perl ?06:40
rabbitJeeves_moss:  k06:40
smallfoot<SCO> OK WE ARENT REALLY HAVE SCO UNIX THIS IS MICROSOFT XENIX YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TRICKEID !! HAHA HAIODITS!06:40
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  and if it DOES see the drive, THAN what?06:40
Shadyman<Linuxers> OMG PWNED.06:40
blankybob_4_a_day, I thoguht about it, but didn't really give it a shot i guess06:41
blankysmallfoot, huh?06:41
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smallfootyeh, in 1985 or so, Microsoft has an unix-like operating system called Xenix06:42
smallfootthey later sold it o SCO06:42
smallfootwho renamed it to SCO OpenSerever06:42
psusiJeeves_moss, see if it sees it as /dev/ida/c0d0p1, if the name is wrong, then fix your /boot/grub/menu.lst to specify the correct boot=06:42
Jeeves_mosssmallfoot:  ahhh, good "ole Bill.  I'd like to bitch slap him06:42
tsumeheh, yep06:42
smallfootye06:42
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Jeeves_mosspsusi:  how would I go about finding out what it sees the drive as?06:43
psusiJeeves_moss, fire up gparted is a good start06:43
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Jeeves_mossok, brb, going to find out.06:43
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slshello..06:43
slsi hae just bought a samsung yp-t7 mp3 player06:43
Ralkenwhats the command to delet a directory I tryed "sudo rmdir /myfile/" and it said the directory was not empty06:43
crimsunRalken: rm -rf06:44
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slsand it is supposed to mount like any other usb sorage device06:44
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Ralkencrimsun,  thanks06:44
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slsonly nothing happens?06:44
bob_4_a_dayRalken use with caution06:44
slshow do I fix this?06:44
zozvozozofound and installed build-essentials, thanks! :)06:44
nopeadoes anybody know if DHCP, NAT, DNS and other such network functions can be accessed thru Gnome (no the the shell)06:45
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smallfootubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!06:45
slsnopea: not in ubunty06:45
slsubuntu06:45
binarydigitwhat sound server allows multiple sounds to be played at once06:45
nopeabummer06:45
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slstry suse or redhat06:45
smallfootubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!06:45
smallfootubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!06:45
smallfootubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!06:45
smallfootubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!06:45
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slsbinarydigit: esd06:46
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Ralkenbob_4_a_day,  yea I know I can totally erase everything in my directory lol06:46
pk_volthow do i set my windows partition (sda3) to allow read for non-root users?06:46
Jeeves_mossALL!!!: will some one PLEASE hit smallfoot?06:46
nopeaI want to turn an old PC into a router and such - thought I would use Ubuntu - 2003 is just far to pricy for a home server deal :)06:46
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bob_4_a_daywith the sudo prepended on the whole system (all mounted drives) Ralken06:46
garryGive a person a program and you frustrate them for a day. Teach a person how to program and you frustrate them for a lifetime!06:47
slsnopea: Fedora (free redhat) and suse both are free and do have gui utils for these apps.06:47
nopeasls, cheers!06:47
Ralkenbob_4_a_day, thanks I deleted what I needed to06:47
slsso does mangrake or mandriva.06:47
Jeeves_mossnopea:  go get a good "howto" on shell stuff, and lear.  its easy to set up once you know where everything is, and how it works.  Two words for ya.  TEXT FILES!!06:47
nopeaI used to use Fedora - but I love Ubuntu06:47
tsumegarry: that only applies to java programmers06:47
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nopea:)06:47
Ralkenbob_4_a_day,  I should not have used root to put it there in the first place lol06:48
dragoonguys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser can anyone help lease06:48
dragoonplease06:48
bob_4_a_daygarry i'd laugh,  but there is nothing funny about that ...06:48
nopeathere is a PPPoE client no?06:48
tsumegarry: you see, they aren't real programmers. So they are always frustrated ;)06:48
slsdoes anyone own a samsun mp3 player?????06:48
Jeeves_mossnopea:  yes there is.  its another modual you install06:48
nopeaJeeves_moss, thanks06:49
Jeeves_mosspsusi:  should I mention that the drives in this beast are SCSI drives in a hotpluggable cage?06:49
Inf3ctedFxPpl, I have a problem with my microphone06:49
Jeeves_mossnopea:  NP06:49
bob_4_a_daywhat's wrong with your microPfone ?06:49
psusiJeeves_moss, I figured that out ;)06:50
slscan anyone please help with a samsun YP-T7 MP3 player...06:50
garryHehe, Lots of tiells on the frustation thing. As for making read access for non-root users, I'm not sure. I've always been able to get access via system/administration/disks06:50
nopeaJeeves_moss, do you do alot of networking?06:50
Inf3ctedFxI'm trying to configure gnomemeeting06:50
Inf3ctedFxbut I can't pass the test on my mic06:50
pk_volthow do you display a text file in terminal06:50
dragooncat06:50
h4xcat filepath/filename06:50
pk_voltthanks06:50
Jeeves_mossnopea:  not realy.  I own a company that re-does corprate networks.  I do the hardware side of things.06:50
psusipk_volt, any number of ways... cat... less...06:50
dragoonguys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser can anyone help lease06:50
psusipk_volt, pico if you want to modify it06:51
Jeeves_mosspk_volt:  Pico <file name>06:51
ShadymanWhere do you get the kernel sources from?06:51
Jeeves_mossshadyman:  apt-get install kernel-source06:51
ShadymanJeeves_moss: Thanks, Been trying to get that all day :P06:51
bob_4_a_daypk_volt if you just want to view text  less  is made for that.06:52
rabbitJeeves_moss:   I think my card is hotpluggable, take a look at my /etc/network/interfaces   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/622606:52
Jeeves_mossshadyman:  NP.  you can also get to it from the package installer off of KDE's GUI06:52
nopeaJeeves_moss, cool - yesterday I tried this trick where I plugged my Fiber Optic modem into a hub then the old PC into the hub and connected with PPPoE thru the hub, all other PCs at home (2) connected to the hub could access the net (thru a NAT) - wondered if thats normal06:52
crimsunShadyman: you want linux-source-2.6.12 in Breezy06:52
ShadymanJeeves_moss: Kernel-source has no installation candidate06:52
Shadymancrimsun: yeah06:52
bob_4_a_dayless is so much more than more.....06:52
ShadymanLess is more.06:52
h4xa note to room. I had trouble with ubuntu, it would freeze for about 15 seconds in intervals of about 45 seconds. The system was fairly old, It only had 256mb of ram and it had no FANS! (after a terrible modding accident.) The problem was, that the cpu got so hot that it would have a "heart attack" and lock up. I bought some fans today, as well as some more ram. (it now has a gig). Everything works fine now :)06:52
bob_4_a_daycause more is just less than less....06:53
Shadymanyes.06:53
ShadymanWith Charmin ultra, Less is more.06:53
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  I'll look @ it in a sec.  one thing you can do it create multi profiles for it so all you'd have to do is type ifconfig up <card profile> and it'll read the part of the file that has the right configuration for your card06:53
Shadymanoh dear. now i have that commercial in my head.06:53
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Jeeves_mossnopea:  no, you've left your systems open.  if its a true "hub" and not a router, then ALL the systems would have to be firewalled.  not to mention you don't have any access or routing control over the ISP's connection.06:54
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lennox`in ubuntu is there an easy way to install gcc so i can compile programs i download?06:56
mcjerrydoes anyone here run vmware on linux? i have an xorg.conf issue i need help with now06:56
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  that link is a basic "interfaces" set up file.  mine has 2 differen't settings for both my wired and woreless cards.  when I'm out, I just type in "ifconfig up away" and it configures my cards to be DHCPed, and when I'm @ home, I type in "ifconfig up home", and it auto configures my cards with the corect static IPs for my networks.06:56
psusilennox`, install build-essential06:56
Shadymanlennox`: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:56
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nopeaJeeves_moss, I should be more clear - I have the old PC connected to my ISP with PPoE - which goes from the NIC on the old PC to the hub, then to the fiber modem.  The PPPoE dialer has a firewall on it.  The other PCs connect to the old PC (server) via the hub, and all Internet requests go thru the NAT on the old PC (server).  Sorry if that makes no sense ;-)06:56
Jeeves_mossmcjerry:  there is a VERY good artical in the "linux journal" this month on just that very program06:56
h07mhow do i mount afloppy drive in ubuntu/livecd06:57
bob_4_a_dayh4x it you really want to talk cooling i have some heat transfer chips that they use on NSSB's  that are just about the right size to sandwitch between the cpu and heat sync  :)    they eat a little bit of +12 volt power but can hard freeze the cpu if you want.06:57
lennox`also one more question06:57
lennox`can i use oss instead of alsa?06:57
Jeeves_mossnopea:  yea, that sounds better.  I've got 9 systems running through an old 450Mhz system thats running a firewall.06:57
rabbitJeeves_moss:  would you mind showing me your file ?   or take out sensitive stuff?06:57
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lennox`for some reason i cant get my sound card to work in alsa06:57
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Jeeves_mossrabbit:  my laptop is dead.  I cooked the CPU in an overclocking experment.  I'm currently getting it fixed.  I should go though.  my fiance is ready for bed.06:58
eric_I'm not able to play a wmv file, what am I missing06:58
garryHmm, alsa is supposed to have oss emulation modes.06:58
ShadymanWhere is the source installed?06:58
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bob_4_a_daylennox` if you can't get it to work with alsa, what makes you think it will for oss ?06:58
Shadyman!restrictedfiles06:58
ubotuShadyman: No idea06:58
Shadyman!wmv06:58
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:58
rabbitJeeves_moss:  before you go..06:59
Shadymaneric_: See that site.06:59
h4xbob_4_a_day: NSSB's?06:59
mcjerryJeeves_moss I have the January 2006 issue is it in December? anyway i have ubuntu running 800x600 and when i try to go full screen with the knoppix virtual machine i get this > Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.06:59
rabbitJeeves_moss:  there's an example on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:59
nopeaJeeves_moss, cool - I was unsure about the fact the PPPoE goes thru the same NIC and hub that the other PCs go to.  But in the end the PPPoE dialer/client gets its own IP and Subnet from the ISP's DHCP server06:59
lennox`bob: because it works in slack 10.2 using oss06:59
eric_ok thanks06:59
Jeeves_mossrabbit:  make it quick.  I can't keep my woman waiting.06:59
rabbitJeeves_moss:  under  " Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces "06:59
bob_4_a_dayh4x nuclear sub06:59
nopeaJeeves_moss, smart man! :-)06:59
mcjerryJeeves_moss: i have xorg.conf but do not know what to put where...06:59
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rabbitJeeves_moss:   like that?  except I don't need that script eh?06:59
ShadymanWhere does the kernel source get installed?06:59
h4xlmao06:59
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jcpennyhow do i mount a floppy drive using an ubuntu-livecd06:59
tuvsomething is wrong with my framebuffer.. the system boots with a very small console space in the middle of the screen (as if the screen has margins) and i have to console terminals (tty1... tty6)07:00
bob_4_a_daylennox` and wouldn't on slack 10 with alsa ?07:00
lennox`nope07:00
lennox`i dont know whats up07:00
lennox`its a fairly common card07:00
lennox`i dont see why it wont work07:00
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bob_4_a_daywell to answer you question yes you can use oss07:00
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tuvwith a geforce vga card07:00
tuvX is working fine though07:01
Jeeves_mossnopea:  as long as your ISP's nic has its own IP (non internal to your network), and you have your internal network on a differn't subnet, then you should be fine.  The NAT preforms the netowrk hop (to the differen't subnet), so in theroy, if the "router" gets hacked, it'll take a while to get over to the other netowrk.  you need to make sure that if the router is compermised that its a "fail open" network connection.07:01
lennox`i'm going to have to search the ubuntu boards to see if anyone else has trouble with this sound card07:02
Jeeves_mossnopea, rabbit:  good night guys.  I'm going to hop into bed.  my Fiance is calling.  <evil grin>07:02
rabbitJeeves_moss:  : S07:02
nopeaJeeves_moss, take care07:02
Shadyman*grin*07:02
rabbitJeeves_moss:  yeah thanks07:02
rabbitJeeves_moss:   have fun, ha07:02
Shadymanhave... fun07:02
lennox`i know im not the only one with a sb audigy ls07:03
lennox`;p07:03
jcpennyhow do i mount a floppy drive using an ubuntu-livecd07:03
mcjerryJeeves_moss what issue is that article in07:03
bob_4_a_dayjcpenny   mount /dev/fd0 /mnt07:03
lennox`mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/fd1 i belieave07:03
Jeeves_mossmcjerry:  one sec.  its in my bathroom.07:04
Jeeves_mossmcjerry:  ok, sorry, its the "linux magazine", January 2005.  page 2407:05
h4xwhats a good dvd player (software). I cant use ogle, becuase after the dvd plays the warning, do not prirate yadayada, ogle crashes, Any remedies, or New software recomendations?07:06
lennox`also, has anyone else had problems07:06
lennox`with the router that vonage gives you07:06
genh4x, i like vlc07:06
Jeeves_mossALL!:  'night every one!07:06
lennox`i opened up all my ports for torrents, and ssh07:06
lennox`and it still wont allow connections07:06
mcjerryJeeves_moss: k, thanks, do you have any idea about the problem i have above?07:06
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garryI had the same issue with bittorrents. Had to go to bittorinado to get it to work ok.07:07
ShadymanUh, fun error now: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build; give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make07:07
Shadymantrying to use "make"07:07
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lennox`is that referring to kde source?07:08
bob_4_a_dayinstall kernel source cofe07:08
bob_4_a_daycode07:08
Shadymanlennox`: It shouldn't be.07:08
Shadymanbob_4_a_day: I did.07:08
bob_4_a_dayis it k707:09
h4xwhere can i get vlc gen?07:09
lennox`vlc?07:09
bob_4_a_dayyou get out of my league there. i'm still just a 32 bit'er07:09
lennox`gimme one sed07:10
lennox`er se07:10
lennox`er sec07:10
Shadymanbob_4_a_day: Source code is platform independant.07:10
garryI was able to install kde, not using the source from the non-universe repository via synaptic. Only thing i had to do was modify the xorg.conf file to insert my monitor specs. Now I can use both.07:10
lennox`http://www.videolan.org/vlc/07:10
lennox`bob get it there07:10
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ShadymanI'm trying to make ndiswrapper07:10
geralddoes apt-get  install rpms?07:10
tonyyarussoCan Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses for a contact?07:10
Shadymangerald: no.07:11
bob_4_a_daythe address request was not.  so find where it put the source and give it the path Shadyman07:11
ravvgerald, no .deb07:11
Madpilotgerald: use .deb in Ubuntu07:11
lennox`er h4x, sorry bob07:11
lennox`got confused as to who asked for the link07:11
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marc_Hello Ladies and Gents07:12
bob_4_a_daylennox` why not use the repos for that ?07:12
h4xthanks lennox ;)07:12
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lennox`repos?07:12
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bob_4_a_dayh4x it's in the repos use synaptic to install it07:12
bob_4_a_day!repos07:13
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:13
Shadymanbob_4_a_day: Any idea what folder it's looking for?07:13
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bob_4_a_dayShadyman no. sorry.07:13
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kaffeendhiya all :)07:13
Shadymanhey07:14
bob_4_a_dayShadyman /usr/local/src/   or something like that.07:14
kaffeendI just came in to annoy crimsun with pesky questions :P07:14
garryhehe07:14
kestaswhat's the keyboard device node?07:14
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h4xyay07:15
Shadymanbob_4_a_day: Heh, make -d made it work a bit more.07:15
h4xthanks bob_4_a_day07:15
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kaffeendcan anyone tell me what a .rpm file is please? I have 3 of them and I dunno how to install em :D07:16
flungucan anyone help me with a printer setup on ubuntu07:16
bob_4_a_dayredhat package management  file.07:16
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flunguplease07:16
flungu?07:16
Madpilot!printers07:17
ubotuwell, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org07:17
bob_4_a_daywhat problem?07:17
flungucannot start cups server07:17
ericI just installed the win32 codecs but my file still won't play, it's wmv asf file07:17
bob_4_a_daynetwork running ?07:17
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dapimp53What is the url for updating to Breezy?07:18
dapimp53someone posted it earlier and it helped but I need it again.07:18
flungui added my Epson printer but when i try to print the system just hangs07:18
bob_4_a_daycups wont start with you let /etc/init.d/network run..... i don't like it but that's just the way it is.07:18
bob_4_a_daywithout ^07:18
ravvdamip sudo /etc/apt/sources,list and change hoary to breezy07:18
ravvdamip sudo nano07:18
Madpilotdapimp53: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:18
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dapimp53thanks madpilot07:19
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garryFlungu I have the same issue with an all in one printer epson styluc CX6600. None of the drivers work. It hangs half way through too.07:19
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flungui have a CX 3200 but i don't think it's the drivers07:20
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ericcan anyone advise me on playing a wmv asf file, I've already installed the win32 codecs but the file won't play07:20
bob_4_a_daydeside to go slumming crimsun ?07:20
flungusometimes it just works but this time every program that i try to print from freezes07:20
alvansonI am trying to install ubuntu 5.10, but every time I run the install, it fails on linux-i386.  Looking at the logs, there is apparently a MD5Sum mismatch for nvidia-kernel-common.  Checking the CD's integrity gives nothing wrong with it07:20
kaffeendQ: What do I do with a .rpm file?07:20
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alvansonAny way to fix?  Is this a known problem?07:21
alvansonor is there a way to netinstall?07:21
WebLOCHkaffeend, in ubuntu, you generally look for a deb instead, or try Alien07:21
WebLOCHkaffeend, type "man alien" at the console07:21
bob_4_a_daykaffeend nothing if you can find a .deb of the same crap.07:21
kaffeendokies07:21
flungudoes anyone know how to restart the cups server07:21
flungu?07:21
kaffeendthere were only source files as an alternative :s07:21
bob_4_a_daykaffeend what is this rpm anyway ?07:22
kaffeendOpenAL07:22
kaffeendand a couple of dependencies for a game07:22
bob_4_a_dayflungu 'sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart '07:22
flunguthanks07:22
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garryred hat packet module or somethign like that. There is a program that you use to install rpm packages.07:22
DjDarkmanhy ,who can help me with skype over ubuntu?07:23
bob_4_a_day!info openal07:23
halsomebody who speak portuguese?!07:23
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geraldwhat package do I need to install for this command:  dpkg-buildpackage07:23
kaffeendWebLOCH and bob_4_a_day I deleted them - it doesn't matter :D thanks tho07:23
halsomebody help me installin' some programs!07:23
bob_4_a_daykaffeend do a 'apt-cache search openal '07:23
DjDarkmanhal, what programz do you want 2 install?07:24
linux_galoreI was just wondering, Ive got a previous install of Linux using the XFS file system, can I keep /home and reformat the other partitions and still use XFS07:24
kaffeendbob_4_a_day - will do ;)07:24
haldjdarkman aMSN and WINE....07:24
alvansona search on google is not turning anything up :@07:24
DjDarkmanhal, w8 please07:25
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rizois there a module that take cares of the keyboard? i want to try unloading it if one exsists and see if it resolves my lag issues after resuming from suspend-to-ram07:25
garryWine is in the synaptic universe repository.07:25
Madpilotalvanson: is this a pressed CD or a burned one?07:25
bob_4_a_daylinux_galore i don't see why not07:25
DjDarkmanhal u dont need msn07:25
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alvansonMadpilot, pressed... from shipit07:25
DjDarkmanhal u got gaim07:25
kaffeendbob_4_a_day - wow there's a lot there07:25
WebLOCHkaffeend, good lucks anyway boy07:25
haland i'm tryin' open my files from the other part of the hd, where my windows is instaled, but i'm keepin' beeing denied!07:25
linux_galoreI wonder is the ubuntu install has a "use existing partitions" option07:26
Madpilotalvanson: have you tried another CD? They usually ship you a bunch...07:26
linux_galoreif*07:26
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kaffeendWebLOCH Thanks :D07:26
alvansonMadpilot, I shall, but this first one verifies07:26
bob_4_a_dayyes and 6 100% matches kaffeend07:26
haldjdarkman that i discovered a few minutes ago, i just can't install any program =\07:26
bob_4_a_daylibopenal-dev ;; libopenal0 ;; libopenalpp-cvs-dev ;; libopenalpp-cvsc2 ;; openalpp-cvs-doc ;; python-openal07:26
kaffeendbob_4_a_day - haha - correctamundo07:26
Madpilothal: what are you trying to install, and from where?07:27
linux_galorehal: is it xp or win2k07:27
alvansonhmm... can't find the other 407:27
DjDarkmansomebody uses skype here?07:27
halit's xp.....i just can't open it from the ubuntu...07:27
kaffeendgoing for python07:27
hali'm tryin' to install wine07:27
bob_4_a_daykaffeend not bad for a guy that don't use ubuntu eeh ?07:27
linux_galorehal: ??07:27
DjDarkmanhal, needs to enable the repositories i think07:28
Madpilothal: you don't need an XP install to use or isntall wine07:28
hali'll try some more and reboot...07:28
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djtanseyi am trying to install ubuntu from a flash card. I am able to mount it after the install image boots, but it still insists that I "Detect CDROM." but it isn't a cdrom... how can i get it to just install from the uncompressed iso i have on /dev/hdc1 ?07:28
linux_galorehal: I use an app called captive it allows Linux to view the windows NTFS partiton07:28
kaffeendbob_4_a_day - get out! Tresspasser! :P07:28
kaffeend!police07:28
ubotukaffeend: Are you smoking crack?07:28
kaffeendlol07:28
DjDarkmanman nobody uses skype here?07:29
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kaffeendDjDarkman are you lonely?07:29
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kaffeendDjDarkman: want someone to talk to?07:29
kaffeend:D07:29
DjDarkmankaffeend, yes someone ,who can help me make my skype work :P07:30
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kaffeendhave you tried #skype?07:30
DjDarkmannope07:30
geraldchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create e xecutables07:30
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geraldanyone know how to fix this compile error?07:31
Madpilotgerald: did you install build-essential?07:31
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geralddunno07:31
geraldgonna check07:31
Madpilot!b-e07:31
ubotuit has been said that b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.07:31
DjDarkmani cant even use my mircrophone and that`s the problem kaffeend07:31
tuvwhy would a ping to a local network address give "Destination Host Unreachable" (wifi)07:31
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linux_galoretuv: no gateway was defined07:31
intelikeykaffeend bet that left ya wondering.....  :)07:31
kaffeendDjDarkman: neither can I07:32
geraldseems to be working now07:32
linux_galoretuv: no gateway it doesnt know how to get there07:32
tuvlinux_galore: gateway is well configured. besides, it's a same-lan address so gateway is not needed anyway07:32
kaffeendintelikey - lol - I have my own problemos to keep me occupied07:32
DjDarkmanwhy does my ubuntu use oss and alsa?07:32
crimsunDjDarkman: it uses ALSA by default, which means it uses ALSA's OSS emulation.07:33
GTroyhello everyone, how do you switch preferences for realplayer to play files from npr instead of mplayer?07:33
intelikeyDjDarkman you mean it doesn't use  esd  also ?07:33
linux_galoretuv: check your firewall07:33
DjDarkmanhmmm ,but why can`t i hear my microphone?07:33
DjDarkmanintelikey, dunno07:34
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kaffeendI don't suppose anyone here knows of a heightfield generator for linux?07:34
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tuvlinux_galore: i was able to ping the router.. after a few minutes i am not! after a reboot still unable!!07:34
chalcedonygreetings07:34
crimsunDjDarkman: did you unmute the microphone?07:34
DjDarkmanyes07:34
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DjDarkmanin every place07:35
intelikeyDjDarkman muted ?    line0 slected for input in place of mic ?   without some info no way i can guess.07:35
kaffeendchalcedony aloha :)07:35
chalcedonywho knows how i can tell which Ubuntu distribution my husband has in his computer?07:35
crimsunDjDarkman: some chipsets require you to unmute an analog loopback, too07:35
delltonyhi have a question about partioning. i have windows on one partition and kubuntu on another i have 46 gig allocated to linux which i use the most but i need a little more space for windows abut another 10 gig so how can i resize the partition for linux so i can give to windows? I am trying to use gparted but for some reason the resize is grayed out.07:35
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crimsunchalcedony: lsb_release -r07:35
Shadymanchalcedony: ask him?07:35
DjDarkmanwhere can i find these options?07:35
Shadyman:)07:35
chalcedonyShadyman: he doesn't speak and doesn't remember.07:35
chalcedonyty though07:35
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ShadymanOh.07:35
linux_galoretuv: its simple either you have a hardware issue or you have a network issue, there is also the physical network issues ie your cable is stuffed07:35
crimsunDjDarkman: the Volume Control applet, for instance, or ``alsamixer'' from the cli07:35
linux_galoretuv: have you run ifconfig and checked to make sure everything is there07:36
DjDarkmanline in mode: line in ,mic mode: mic in07:37
tuvlinux_galore: you can rule out the cable thing since it is a wireless network. ifconfig if fine too.07:37
DjDarkmani enabled all switches07:37
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tuvlinux_galore: the point is that it was working and suddenly it stopped07:37
linux_galoretuv: ping the router and look at the port traffic indicator07:37
alvansonMadpilot, hmm... was a bad CD.  yet it tested fine... odd07:37
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone again07:37
linux_galoretuv: on the router07:38
Inf3ctedFxwell I think my webcam doesnt love me anymore lol07:38
tuvlinux_galore: to be exact i was downloading updates and the download stopped it the middle and the network was out.. hasn't been back since07:38
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DjDarkmanwhats next?it still doesn`t work07:38
Brunelluswhere does rhythymbox keep its config files?07:38
Inf3ctedFxsomeone has an idea on webcams working under linux?07:38
geraldanyone know how to fix this compile error07:39
geraldconfigure: error: no X support found.  Use --x-includes and --x-libraries to spe cify the X07:39
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linux_galoreInf3ctedFx: sure do07:39
chalcedony does release 5.10 have a name?07:40
Myrttibreezy07:40
crimsunchalcedony: "Breezy Badger"07:40
dapimp53Does anyone know if in the Breezy release if they fixed the problem where the touchpads dont work on laptops?07:40
Shadymanchalcedony: BReezy Badger07:40
chalcedonyalso.. hmm terminals in color!07:40
chalcedonyty :)07:40
jack_daniel298jhfk07:40
Shadymandapimp53: Synaptics Touchpads work just fune07:40
Inf3ctedFxlinux_galore: I hava an intel cs110 webcam and everytime I want to use it.. it freeze on me the pc07:40
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crimsungerald: you need libx11-dev, among others.07:40
dapimp53I think its alps that I have07:40
dapimp53that is the normal one right?07:40
dapimp53well more common07:40
crimsungerald: if you're unsure, you can use the (deprecated) transitional package, 'xlibs-dev'07:41
Inf3ctedFxso linux_galore  I dont know if is the driver or something am I doing qrong07:41
linux_galoreInf3ctedFx: did you check to make sure that camera is supported07:41
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Inf3ctedFxwell not really linux_galore  how can I check that? on internet?07:41
linux_galoreInf3ctedFx:  www.google.com/linux07:41
Inf3ctedFxok, let me check linux_galore07:41
linux_galorejust punch in the make model and see what it spits out07:42
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intelikeyoh my this may crash.....!07:43
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Shadymanyep07:43
intelikeywe need more power mr. scott !07:43
jack_daniel298jh07:43
ShadymanIt says Ubuntu already has the ndiswrapper modules... Where?07:43
Shadyman!ndiswraper07:44
ubotuNo idea, Shadyman07:44
Shadyman!ndiswrapper07:44
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper07:44
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methodShadyman, ndiswrapper-utils07:44
Shadymanmethod: Thx07:44
methodAnd it works.07:44
methodJust a bitch.07:45
Shadymanyep07:45
Shadymanand here i am trying to compile the freakin thing.07:45
ShadymanROFL07:45
intelikeyENGIN ROOM REPORT !07:45
methodYeah, don't do that.07:45
method:)07:45
intelikeywell we've lost our warp drive.07:45
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linux_galoreI have a portable home brew Linksys WRT56GS router so I dont have to worry about ndiswrapper and also I have my own portable subnet so people can share with me on the fly07:47
linux_galoresorry this gives me my own portable subnet*07:47
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Marc\How is everyone today?07:48
Inf3ctedFxwell linux_galore  nope is not support it  DANM it  lol07:48
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hydroksydeanyone have a photo of an ubuntu CD?07:48
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garryBraindead from the flu myself. ;;|07:48
slsdoes UBUNTU support MTP devices07:48
sls>07:48
sls?07:48
linux_galoreInf3ctedFx: yeah always wise to check first before you buy07:48
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Marc\The flu? Ouch - how bad is it garru?07:48
paulproteus|laptMarc\: Pretty good, thanks. (-:07:48
Marc\Garry*07:48
intelikey!mtp07:48
ubotuintelikey: Wish i knew07:48
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Inf3ctedFxthats the problems linux_galore  this camera was with me for about 3 years already lol07:49
Shadymanand now for wpa of goodness on ndiswrapper :P07:49
Actitudhi07:49
cristophinehi07:49
slsdoes UBUNTU support MTP devices like MP3 players?07:49
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hydroksydesls, yes07:49
garryNot bad, just annoying - I got hose nose, no amount of meds will stop the runny nose.07:49
hydroksydesls, you should be able to just plug it in, and it will go07:49
cristophineI'm having problems accessing my windows fat partition from my user account07:49
cristophinechown and chmod dont seem to work07:50
Madpilothydroksyde: check flickr - lots of Ubuntu photos there07:50
hydroksydecristophine, can you access it as root?07:50
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slshydroksyde: i have tried that with my Samsung YP-T7 and nothing happens07:50
cristophineyup07:50
intelikeyso what is MTP ?07:50
slsI can see it in the device manager07:50
hydroksydesls, open up a terminal and type dmesg. see if there are any related messages.07:50
slsMedia Transfer Protocol07:50
garryTry System/Administration/Disks and you can use it to gain access usually.07:51
Marc\Anyone here game with Ubuntu? I been playing around with Cedega and wanted to know if anyone had any tips.07:51
intelikeycristophine fat or ntfs ?07:51
cristophinefat07:51
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hydroksydecristophine, can you open your /etc/fstab and tell us the line for this particular partition?07:51
sls[4643469.537000]  usb 5-5: USB disconnect, address 1107:52
sls[4643482.203000]  usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 1207:52
cristophinewill do07:52
slshydroksyde: that is wat shows up07:52
hydroksydesls, do MTP devices work like USB drives?07:52
Myrttitell it on pastebin07:52
Myrtti!pastebin07:52
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:52
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/disk -o umask=0         cristophine  where hda9  is the partition and /mnt/disk is an empty directory.07:52
hydroksydeMyrtti, shouls only be one line07:52
slshydroksyde: and I can see the device in device manager07:52
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slshydroksyde: but i do not know how to mount it...07:52
cristophine/dev/hdb1       /windows        vfat    quiet           0       007:53
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slshydroksyde: they are supposed to work like mass storeage devices07:53
Madpilothydroksyde: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/ubuntu/?page=307:53
linux_galorehydroksyde: yes you just need a client for the device and libnjb installed07:53
hydroksydesls, do you have another MSD that works?07:53
slshydroksyde: on windows i show up like a camera or disk would in explorer07:53
intelikeyok cristophine make that defaults,umask=0   in place of quiet   and you'r set.07:54
slshydroksyde: yes i do --- SD Cards and a USB thumb drive07:54
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hydroksydesls, yeah, they should appear on the desktop automatically in ubuntu07:54
hydroksydemy USB drive does07:54
slshydroksyde: SD Cards do and all other devices but not this one.07:54
linux_galorehydroksyde: whats the device07:54
hydroksydelinux_galore, what do you mean?07:55
slslinux_galore: it is a samsung YP-T7 MP3 player07:55
cristophinethx :)07:55
linux_galoresls: aah yeah they work fine07:55
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buntusanyone want to install php for me 2moro for $10 ?07:55
linux_galorethe whole Samsung YP media series Ive found work great07:55
tuvthis is the strangest thing i've ever seen. once i reboot the network is ok.. few minutes after i login to gnome pings to the local network return "Destination Host Untreachable".. what's happening??? using ipw2200 1.0.8 with wpa_supplicant WPA2 CCMP07:56
slslinux_galore: how?!?!07:56
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linux_galoresls: just plug it in and there it is07:56
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hydroksydesls, it should appear on the gnome desktop07:56
intelikeycristophine after you edit your fstab  just issue a 'sudo -o remount /windows '07:56
linux_galoresls: should see an icon on the desktop07:56
slslinux_galore: that is what i was expecting...07:56
slslinux_galore: nothing there...07:57
hydroksydesls, unless support is enabled in your kernel, or hal is broken07:57
DjDarkmanman nobody knows how to make my microphone workin?07:57
linux_galoresls: Ive got a 128mb YP-## mp3 player it just shows up07:57
buntus$10 paypal for anyone who can get apache working with php :)07:57
hydroksydebuntus, sure07:57
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slsthis is a 512 MB player -- rather new...07:57
buntusbut hydroksyde can u do it for me in the morning ?07:57
buntusill take ur address ill even pay u before u start07:58
hydroksydei suppose07:58
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=== linux_galore now has a Zen Touch mp3 player and uses gnomad2
buntusok u in here ? or msn ?07:58
slslinux_galore: the older ones are just like pen drives...07:58
timfrostxhristophine, if you add "user" to the options (3rd field) then you shouild not need to use root/sudo to mount the FAT partition07:58
hydroksydebuntus, pm07:58
buntussure07:58
linux_galoresls: always look the device up on www.google.com/linux see if there are any issues, the Zen Touch uses MTP07:59
GoRoDeKhow to extract files from *.iso image using console?07:59
slslinux_galore: searching...07:59
intelikeyGoRoDeK mount it07:59
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linux_galoresls: If I plug in the zen touch nothing happens so I installed gnomad2 and libnjb07:59
GoRoDeKintelikey, only user and not allowed to mount ;(08:00
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erahhey, how's it going?08:00
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intelikeyGoRoDeK 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /dir '    where file is the file name and dir is and empty dir.08:00
pilgrimHi all. How come the 3d cool looking screensavers don't work in my machine (i.e. they're really slow).08:01
cristophine@ intelikey: it didnt work08:01
intelikeythat's kinda broad. cristophine care to post the error for me.08:02
cristophinewell, no error08:02
cristophinethe remount went through08:02
intelikeyand ?08:02
slslinux_galore: what is gnomad?08:02
cristophinebut i still cant change permissions on the file08:02
GoRoDeKintelikey, i'm only a user and have no admin rights, so sudo will also not work for me ;(08:02
crimsuncristophine: you have to ``sudo modprobe loop'' first if it's not loaded, and you don't have to pass -t08:02
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intelikeyyou sure can't.  and never will be able to on vfat08:02
intelikeythere is no permissions bit on vfat08:03
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cristophineic08:03
cristophineso, is there any way for me to send stuff to my windows partition without being root?08:04
intelikeycrimsun that's GoRoDeK not cristophine08:04
intelikeyGoRoDeK unless you can mount it.  i don't think you can get files out of it.08:05
erahcan't you just add umask=000 to your fstab?08:05
crimsunintelikey: yeah, thanks.08:05
intelikeycristophine yes.  you should be able to write there now.08:05
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slslinux_galore: o I apt-get ed it... it sees "no jukebox"08:05
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GoRoDeKintelikey, ok thx for your help... i hopefully will find another way :)08:05
intelikeybut you can not set permissions. there are none.08:05
geraldi can't seem to find imlib2 in apt-cache and I"m getting this compile error08:06
gerald/bin/sh: imlib2-config: command not found08:06
gerald/bin/sh: imlib2-config: command not found08:06
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cristophineic08:06
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intelikeyGoRoDeK maybe pmount   but i don't know08:06
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crimsungerald: install libimlib2-dev08:06
linux_galoresls: what are you using as a client08:06
tuvhow come wpa_supplicant associates to a wpa2 network without loading the ieee80211_crypt_tkip or ieee80211_crypt_ccmp kernel modules?08:06
slslinux_galore: gnomad2...08:07
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linux_galoresls: gnomad2 is for the zen touch08:07
slslinux_galore: do I have to do somethin besides installing it with apt?08:07
davidehello i am looking for help with setting ddclient08:07
slsok08:07
geraldi'll try that08:07
linux_galoresls: I would say you have some weird type of playlist that specific to that player same as the zen touch, you need to find a client that works with that playlist08:07
davidei have a linksys router and ddclient is unable to get the ip address08:08
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intelikeyGoRoDeK the system admin can edit sudoers to allow all user to run special commands like mount and umount   with sudo and not give them full access  you can mention that to the sysadmin08:08
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benoycan anyone tell me where I can find the latest "sources.list" file?08:08
slslinux_galore: the samsung does not use play lists like that... there is a music folder on it and you jus copy what you want to it...08:08
DjDarkmankmix rulez!! :)08:08
slslinux_galore: in windows that is...08:09
intelikey!repos08:09
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:09
linux_galoresls: also to get gnomad2 working you have to reboot with the player "plugged in" then run gnomad208:09
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erahcould anyone give me any insight to running full-screen applications restricted to one monitor in a dual-head environment?08:09
SweetestSavage!rar08:09
ubotusomebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a614008:09
slslinux_galore: what i really need is to be able to mount a USB MTP device...08:10
pilgrimhow do I enable 3d acceleartion for my video card (ati radeon 9700)08:10
paulproteus|laptsls: What's MTP?08:10
linux_galoresls: if you just plug in the player after you have booted then run gnomad2 nothing happens I found08:10
slsMust be new...08:10
intelikeyyuch some body run that thing through tinyurl08:10
linux_galorepaulproteus|lapt: Microsoft Media Transfer Protocol08:10
paulproteus|laptlinux_galore: Whoa, weird.08:10
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paulproteus|laptThat sounds creepy.08:10
linux_galoreit is08:10
slspaulproteus|lapt MTP = Media Transfer Protocol (the newer devices use it)08:11
linux_galoresls: yes and its "windows" specific08:11
paulproteus|laptWhat about Mac OS?08:11
linux_galoresls: its not a open standard like PTP is with digicams08:11
intelikeylooks like sh*t smells like.... musy be...08:11
frguys, I never configured the cdrom after my install. I go to /media/cdrom0 and cdrom1 but media in cd doesn't appear there. How do I mount this or whatever?08:12
linux_galorefr: whats on the cd08:12
slslinux_galore: if that is true then that puts an end to MP3 devices for linux ... almost all the devices I saw this Xmas at Best Buy had the "play for sure" logo = mtp device08:12
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frlinux_galore: its a data cd, just some docs08:12
intelikeyfr 'sudo mount /media/cdrom '08:13
Edu[NN] hellos guys08:13
intelikeyor 0/1 blah...08:13
linux_galoresls: no libnjb fixes that but you still need a client that works with the playlist because each maker has there own weird way of doing it08:13
tuvok.. i found out the wpa_supplicant gets a Disconnect event and re-connect, after which point all pings are unreachable08:13
marc_Does anyone know how to make I-tunes work on Ubuntu?08:14
frintelikey: i get this mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist08:14
acetechif i want to backup an entire drive using tar, would i simply type something like "tar -cvf /mnt/backup/backup.tgz /dev/hda", to backup the entire drive, including multiple partitions?08:14
linux_galoresls: MTP has been reverse engineered so its not a problem, what is the problem is how each player has its own weird playlist format08:14
intelikeyfr figures.   that's udev for you.....08:14
linux_galoresls: reboot with the device plugged in and then run gnomad2 see what happens08:15
frhuh? don't know what udev is. how do i fix it?08:15
tonyyarussoI seem unable to remove a directory.  When root does rmdir, it gives no error, but ls still shows it.08:15
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tonyyarussoThat's using the --ignore-fail-on-non-empty option.08:16
linux_galoretonyyarusso: rmdir -R08:16
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frintelikey: can you elaborate plz?08:16
tonyyarussolinux_galore, "Invalid option"08:17
davideanybody knows how to get information out of a linksys router??08:17
intelikeyfr i don't know the 'right' way but sudo MAKEDEV cdrom   and edit the /etc/fstab  line that says /dev/hdc to say /dev/cdrom  will probably work.....  and i make no promices08:17
Yomictype 'router' in a browser08:17
acetechif i want to backup an entire drive using tar, would i simply type something like "tar -cvf /mnt/backup/backup.tgz /dev/hda", to backup the entire drive, including multiple partitions?08:17
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Now it's gone.08:17
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Did rm -R, and then rmdir.08:18
davidetried already to find info on the web, but nothing useful08:18
intelikeyacetech nope08:18
linux_galoretonyyarusso: means you have a hidden directory in there08:18
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kyleddavide: have you tried typing 192.168.1.1 in your browser?08:18
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Makes sense.  It was an obsolete user's home.08:19
intelikeyacetech all the archive will have in it is one device inode  :)08:19
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intelikeyand it is probably a symlink lol08:19
phreqHey, I've putting together a new box and I have some question's 'bout graphics hardware. :P08:19
linux_galoretonyyarusso: -R just means recursive08:19
phreqEr. I'm.08:19
davidemy problem is how to get from the router the ip address that sbc assign me to have ddclient update on dyndns08:19
frintellikey: do i make one /dev/cdrom0 other /dev/cdrom1 right?08:19
sikumkumHIghoS, is there anyone got experiences with compiling the smp kernel on dual opteron ?08:19
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Right, I'd used it before with rm, but apparently rmdir doesn't use it.08:20
linux_galoretonyyarusso: yeah think your right08:20
intelikeyfr yes if the devices exist.   test with  'ls /dev/cdrom* '08:20
linux_galoretonyyarusso: I dont fush directories much08:20
linux_galoreflush*08:20
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acetechintelikey: what can I do to backup the entire drive in the event i need to restore the linux install08:20
linux_galoretonyyarusso: my /home directory is a cvs rig lol08:20
tonyyarussolinux_galore, What's that?08:21
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frintelikey, mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist :/08:21
linux_galoretonyyarusso: so if I delete or change anything I can wind it back08:21
sikumkumis there anyone got experiences with compiling the smp kernel on dual opteron ? my server always went crash with 2.6.12-smp08:21
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kaffeend|awayphreq -nvidia or ATi?08:21
frintelikey, sorry mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist08:21
acetechintelikey, i would basicaly like to take my entire drive and copy it to another with the ability of doing incremental backups08:21
phreqHIghoS means... come to me. Both. I'm trying to decide between two different cards, both kind of low end.08:21
intelikeyacetech first of all you will have to mount the partition/s some place then make a tarball of that directory.  but you also need to be in the dir unless you want problems restoring ....08:22
linux_galoretonyyarusso: basically anything I change in /home ie delete or update if I need the old version of the file or the now deleted file I can quickly tell cvs to give me the old one back08:22
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phreqOne's a Radeon X300SE, the other a GeForce 6200TC.08:22
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tonyyarussolinux_galore, That must tax your resources a bit.08:22
DjDarkmanhow can i control this emulated oss?08:23
kaffeend|awayphreq hmmm... I reckon the ATi is the winner of those two - but that's just my opinion08:23
linux_galoretonyyarusso: no I have a HUGE hardisk08:23
phreqOkay, it's got better reviews on NewEgg anyway. ;)08:23
linux_galoretonyyarusso: more info -> http://linuxjournal.com/article/597608:24
intelikeyfr without loading ubuntu on this system and searching for the actual device  the best i can hope to do for you is guess.    fr do a 'sudo fdisk -l '   and see what the names of the hard drive devices are.08:24
acetechintelikey, so if is cd /, then tar -cvf /media/backup/backup.tar.gz /"  this will give me the backup file of the entire computer... will this do the /boot, mbr, and everything?08:24
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Ah.  Just 40G here, with Ubuntu, WinXP, and the IBM Rescue and Restore partition.08:24
kaffeend|awayphreq also I think that OpenGL is better suited to ATi08:24
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linux_galoretonyyarusso: I dont keep files in cvs forever I let them be deleted after 120 days08:24
DjDarkmanhow can i control this emulated oss?08:24
tonyyarussolinux_galore, (How huge?)08:25
linux_galoretonyyarusso: two seagate 200Gb hardisks with only Linux installed08:25
frintelikey: it just shows my 4 hard drives..08:25
linux_galoretonyyarusso: I hardly use 10% of the space so far08:25
phreqOkay, thanks.08:25
kaffeend|awayphreq getting up to the higher end cards nVidia win hands down, tho ;)08:25
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Wow.08:25
phreqI'm on a budget, or I would go. :P08:26
kaffeend|awaycool08:26
intelikeyacetech if you have partition to backup mounted on /media/backup   then do this  'cd /media/backup ;tar -czvf /address_to_storage_space/backup.tar.gz *08:26
kaffeend|awaynow I'll finish eating :D08:26
linux_galoretonyyarusso: I spend all my money on hardware, I dont dring or smoke so I save lots of money08:26
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linux_galoredrink*08:26
intelikeyfr yes but are they /dev/hda?   and so on ?08:26
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phreqWait a minute, the wiki page says that AMD64 drivers currently aren't availble for Breezy.08:27
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frintelikey, yea there is hda and hdb, then my 2 sata's which showup improperly but thast another issue :)08:27
tonyyarussolinux_galore, I don't drink or smoke either.  Or work.  (Student here, I'm still paying FOR what I get up to do.)08:27
kaffeend|awayphreq - go 138608:27
intelikeyfr ok.... that's no real help then.08:27
phreqEr, AMD64 drivers for ATI cards. But--- yeah.08:27
kaffeend|awayi386*08:27
linux_galoretonyyarusso: wont last, study hard travel lots and things will work out08:27
phreqWon't the 32bit code still exectue? :P08:27
antoni_NThello everybody, remember me. Now I cannot acces NTFS volumes on my system, what's wrong, why only root can do that08:28
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Sounds about right.08:28
phreqPerms, I'm guessing, Antoni.08:28
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kaffeend|awayI have a AMD64 and run ubuntu i38608:28
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tonyyarussoantoni_NT, What's ls -l of the mount point in question say?08:28
intelikeyfr maybe someone else can help you fine the device node that /dev/hdc should be pointing to.   or tell you how to make an /dev/hdc device node.08:28
linux_galoretonyyarusso: you "must" do a 1Yr world trip, you will be piss poor most of the time but you meet heaps of people and get lots of memories and it helps you in life later because you know were people are coming from when dealing with them08:29
kaffeend|awayphreq - I also run an ATi card08:29
intelikeyALL! help fr get a cd to mount.08:29
antoni_NTit can only be read by root, i want to change it but it says it read only disk, what changes I need in fstab08:29
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phreqkaffeend|away - Awesome... even if I install the 64bit OS, the 32bit binary drivers will run fine, right?08:30
ITSa341I have tried every ATI how-to I can find and can't get my Radeon Mobility IGP 320 to work with 3d :-(08:30
tuvis ubuntu's wpasupplicant package in a good condition or is it just me?08:30
tonyyarussolinux_galore, That does sound like fun.  I'm sort of easing into that, going to school in a neighboring country, and one with 12% of the student body international students, so I've already met lots of interesting people.08:30
kaffeend|awayphreq - huh? I'm missing something08:30
kaffeend|away:s08:30
intelikey!ubotu tell antoni_NT about ntfs08:30
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linux_galoreantoni_NT: you need to install "captive" the NTFS module will only "read" not write or erase because Microsoft has released no or little information on NTFS and yes Microsoft changes NTFS with little or no warning08:31
intelikeyantoni_NT the wiki might help with that.08:31
kaffeend|awaywhy go 64 bit OS?08:31
phreqWhy not? :P08:31
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kaffeend|awaycoz it's crap imho08:31
intelikeywhy not 128 ?08:31
linux_galoreantoni_NT: captive uses your "windows dll files" so it can read write and erase files08:31
kaffeend|awaylol08:32
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linux_galorekaffeend|away: your future proof, I asked the same in 1987, why go 32 bit08:32
tuvlooks like no one is using wpa_supplicant around here :(08:32
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ITSa341lol08:32
intelikey!captive08:33
ubotuwell, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.08:33
tuvkaffeend|away: then design one!08:33
intelikeylinux_galore ^08:33
BoukenPinkOkay... I'm having a wee problem... Sometimes, my mouse seems to go a little bit crazy at times, just for a few seconds, and things will get opened and stuff and the mouse won't move where it's supposed to, but it'll go back to normal after just a small period of time.... :3 Anyone know what might cause that?08:33
antoni_NTI have changed the fstab in Ubuntu 5.04 and now I'mt trying Breezy and it automatically detect my partitions but the problems still exist, I always have to login to root just for playing my Queen of Hollywood08:33
kaffeend|awaytuv - on it ;)08:33
=== phreq wants a cluster of 64bits. ;)
ITSa341!Radeon08:33
ubotuITSa341: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:33
=== linux_galore uses captive fine in Ubuntu
ITSa341!ati08:33
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:33
intelikeyi didn't write the wiki.08:33
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=== linux_galore then again I built captive from source
kaffeend|awaylinux_galore: what do you mean "your future proof"?08:35
linux_galorekaffeend|away: 5 years anything 32 bit is going to be junk08:35
kaffeend|awaytrue08:36
antoni_NTwhat is "captive", where should I install it?08:36
kaffeend|awaybut I already have my 64bit chip ;)08:36
phreqWhich is why I'm buying a 64bit proc. :P08:36
kaffeend|awayah... I see now08:36
linux_galorekaffeend|away: 64 bit and you have a hope of surviving the next 8 years08:36
kaffeend|awayphreq you getting 939s?08:36
antoni_NTmy modem works on 14,4 kBps how to get it works at 56 kBps, I use the Linuxant driver08:36
kaffeend|awaycoz 754 is old school08:37
phreqYeah, a 3200+, Venice.08:37
linux_galorekaffeend|away: to be honest 32 bit has a shelf life right now around 3 years08:37
kaffeend|awayI'd give it less linux_galore08:37
linux_galoreyeah 939 is fine08:37
TerminXanyone know if there's a fix for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616808:37
phreqI'll share my wishlist on Newegg in a minute.08:37
kaffeend|awaytodays 939 is tomorrow's 75408:37
linux_galorekaffeend|away: well XP will be supported till 201008:37
kaffeend|awaywhat's xp? :D08:38
phreqI hate XP.08:38
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linux_galorealso Ubuntu from what i hear will have a 5 year support option so yep 5 years is about it08:38
antoni_NTme too (hate windows especially)08:38
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phreqkaffeend|away - The beast from Redmond. You don't wanna know, really. ;)08:38
linux_galoreyeah I have yet to install windows XP08:39
kaffeend|awaylol08:39
linux_galoreI stopped at win2k08:39
antoni_NTOk I've to leave now thanks08:39
phreqThis box dual boots into 98SE, but that's just for AoEII. ;)08:39
intelikeyantoni_NT if the modem is 56k  and it connects at 14k it is probably a physical problem with the line service or your connections in your home.  possably too much crap connected to the phone line upstream the pc.08:39
linux_galoreintelikey: no the Linuxant free driver is crippled to work at 14.4 you need the $$$ download version to get the full 56k08:40
tonyyarussoMine dual boots WXP because that's the way they sold it to me.  Do I use that $300 or whatever it is?  No.08:40
borq08:40
intelikeylinux_galore sounds like M$'s bull snoot.08:41
linux_galoreintelikey: or get the <cough> bittorrent <cough> version08:41
phreqI like the fact that Dell offers Linux workstations...08:41
tonyyarussolinux_galore, intelikey: Yeah, I'm using the Linuxant driver, and I did break down and cough up the $20.08:41
phreqI don't like it that they don't offer AMD processors. ;)08:41
linux_galoretonyyarusso: its on BT you know08:41
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Actually, I didn't.  But I don't really mind that one.08:42
intelikeylinux_galore but line problems keep me at lower bit rate here.  my modem is a modem  not one of those damn WINmodems08:42
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Out of curiosity though, where?08:42
DjDarkmanhow do i use alsa-oss?08:42
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phreqI wiIt's not fun.08:43
lorenzohello, how do i log on as root? i tried su but i havent created a password, i donno how, thanx08:43
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linux_galoreIm wondering if Ubuntu will use DMIX for sound like suse and mandrake and red hat are in the future releases08:43
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phreqI hate dial-up, but it's the only thing I can get here in my hole. I was stuck with a Windmodem too for a while, but then I ripped a real modem from an old box.08:43
DjDarkmanlorenzo, use sudo08:43
phreqlorenzo: sudo08:43
intelikeylorenzo sudo -08:43
linux_galoretonyyarusso: hold on08:43
kaffeend|awayback in the days of Hoary I had Ubuntu64 and man, was it fast - but anyone who remembers the trouble I was having with that setup will confirm that the 32 bit vers is better08:44
lorenzook thanx :D08:44
Madpilot!root08:44
kaffeend|awayguess that post was a bit late :s08:44
ITSa341lorenzo   sudo is safer, ask me I learned the hard way08:44
phreqEvery tried it on a Mac proc?08:44
summerwintercan somebody help me. I have a pocket pc. I have synced it with 2 computers already. I need to delete one of them if i want to sync with  a 3rd computer. What do you call this? It's not called "account". What's the word? Please help.08:44
phreqEr. Ever*08:44
linux_galoretonyyarusso: whats the official driver name08:45
Madpilot!tell lorenzo about root08:45
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tonyyarussolinux_galore, Something along the lines of Linuxant HSF softmodem driver.08:45
intelikeyITSa341 your user password is more secure than your root password was when you learned the hard way ?08:45
thick-glassescan anyone suggest a good mp3 server for linux?08:45
n0dlwhen i run cdrecord it tells me cannot fixate disk08:45
ITSa341Has anyone here got the Radeon Mobility IGP 320 to work with 3d acceleration?08:45
BoukenPinkOooh... Frostwire...08:45
n0dlhow do i fx this error?08:45
thick-glassesITSa341: have you tried fgl_gears?08:46
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ITSa341thick  yup works fine in 2d but not 3d08:46
ITSa341trying to run cedega but it keeps failing the 3d test08:47
thick-glassesITSa341: did you install the fglrx drivers?08:47
ITSa341yup08:47
phreqMy glxgears gets 24FPS. :P08:48
thick-glassesand change your xorg drivers?08:48
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ITSa341but, when I try to load them the gui fails to start on boot08:48
thick-glasseshmm08:48
kaffeend|awaymy glxgears is around 2300 fps :P08:48
phreqMy box is affectionanetly named POS. :P08:48
ITSa341thick  yup, good thing I remember a few command line opotions   :-)08:48
ITSa341options **08:48
kaffeend|awaynice name phreq08:48
phreqOr peanutbutter. Either or, really, depends on my mood.08:49
intelikeyphreq what's the cheet code for food in AoE2 ?08:49
phreqintelikey I have no idea.08:49
intelikeyhmmm ok08:49
phreqIt's an old Packard Bell. :'(08:49
thick-glassesdamn, ATI drivers need some maturing to do08:49
phreqIntelikey I don't like to use the cheats.08:49
intelikeywell that's the only one i never heard.08:50
phreqHow do I start this thing? gives you a Cobra.08:50
intelikeyyeah08:50
ITSa341thick  I tried the driver download from ATI   LOL   back to command line for a minute    thank goodnes I backed up my xorg.conf08:50
intelikeyor is it 'how do you turn this on'08:50
phreqI'm not sure...08:51
kaffeend|awaytry fglrxgears phreq08:51
linux_galoretonyyarusso: here we go -> http://hsf.szm.sk/08:51
ITSa341I have managed to get almost everything I need working in a hurry with ubuntu. I guess I can live without 3d if I have to but then I would have to do my gaming from my office comp.08:51
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DoomdiverWhat program should ill use to burn Ubunto DVD 5.1? DVD decrypter cant and Nero just burn a unreadable / none bootable DVD. are there any .cue files for the .iso ?08:52
ITSa341office comp has nVidia agp card :-)08:52
phreqI haven't got Ubuntu to work with this box yet, actually. ;)08:52
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phreqkaffeend|away: Don't have the program.08:52
ITSa341I was very impressed when the 802.11 worked with no hassles, just insert wep key and it connected rock solid08:52
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tonyyarussolinux_galore, Huh, interesting.  And oddly enough, I even know someone who can read the Slovensky directions.  (Yes, I did notice the English link, eventually.)08:53
faisal_dmorning all08:53
=== intelikey hasn't got ub to work "right" with any box yet.
kaffeend|awayit's the ATi driver thingy08:53
n0dlhow can i fix a fixate disk error with cdrecord?08:53
phreqAh, okay.08:53
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tonyyarussoCan Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses with a contact?  (It shows E-mail and Additional E-mail only right now.)08:54
ITSa341I must say, the codecs took me a few minutes to figure out so I could play my dvds on this.08:54
phreqWell, my problem is that my hard drives keep failing and GNOME really taxes this machine.08:54
ITSa341Oh, and still can't play .wmv files :-(08:54
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linux_galoretonyyarusso: use Evolution for multiple accounts, I found Thunderbird a bit lightweight for email08:55
intelikeyITSa341 did you try vlc08:55
phreqI'm played with the Ubuntu LiveCDs though, and I really like the feel of it. It's not as bloated as Fedora c3 either.08:55
kaffeend|awayITSa341 - I can ;)08:55
kdHi,everyone,anyone here uses fvwm ,Can you send your config file and icon to me08:55
tonyyarussolinux_galore, I have it working for multiple accounts for me; I meant storing other people's in the address book.08:56
ITSa341intelikey   I played with it but will have to try again, that was after a few daquirritas  ( margarita mix with BOTH rum and tequilla )08:56
ITSa341ok  more than a few08:56
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ITSa341<-- was feelin gooooood08:57
linux_galoretonyyarusso: try getting it to work with your MSN account08:58
phreqSATA I = SATA150 or Sata 3Gb/s ?08:58
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=== xester good day
ITSa341I have a question about Evolution. Will it work with MSN and Yahoo like Thunderbird will? Without paying for pop access??08:59
tonyyarussolinux_galore, Don't have MSN.  Earthlink, Bell Sympatico (which uses MSN mail, and works perfectly), and two university IMAPs.08:59
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Kovecseswhat is the difference beween debian sid and ubuntu??09:00
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_jeffhey guys09:00
ITSa341Hi Jeff09:01
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_jeffdoes anyone here hate compiling from source as much as i do?09:01
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ITSa341<---09:01
phreqDDepends on the program.09:01
Amaranth_jeff: Yep, that's why if Ubuntu doesn't have it I don't need it.09:01
vandenHi all. New to ubuntu and linux. I installed ubuntu breezy, but also put on kbunutu desktop, so I could see what I liked bw KDE/Gnome.09:01
vandenToday, trying to tace down a hardware problem, I booted up with Knoppix 4.0. It changed my screen that shows the loading process from the ubuntu one to the kbununtu one. That seems rude :-)  I've no idea how to fix that. What would I need to look into?09:01
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ITSa341<-- sort of new to linux also.09:03
vandenITSa341: Is it working out well for you?09:03
Kovecses_jeff: dont use gentoo then09:03
ITSa341I have used linux for years for routers and firewalls.09:03
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ITSa341I have a smoothwall router/firewall that hasn't been rebooted in 3 yrs09:03
vandenITSa341: I've used it for > week after one two many windows failings :-)09:04
vandentoo many09:04
Shadowpillaranyone here have an ivtv based tv card?09:04
ITSa341vanden  I also used Linspire for a couple years.09:04
_jeffamaranth: yeah but im trying to get more plugins for giFT09:04
Kovecseslinspire....... oh no09:04
Kovecseswhat is the difference beween debian sid and ubuntu??09:04
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ITSa341I like windows. I get paid $65.00/hour to remove virus and spyware09:05
vandenITSa341: I'd tried a few times over the years, but laptop issues always got in the way. Still are, but now I'm *determined*09:05
_jeffamaranth: and sometimes you have no choice but to attempt a source compilation09:05
AmaranthKovecses: ubuntu is focused on the desktop and has newer versions of Xorg, GNOME, and KDE.09:05
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_jeffkovecses: im not using gentoo09:05
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ITSa341Kov   say what ya want, but I had nothing but great luck with Linspire09:05
KovecsesAmaranth: sid has the same versions of gnome and kde09:05
KovecsesAmaranth: and xorg09:06
Amaranthsid doesn't have gnome 2.1209:06
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Amaranthexperimental has gnome 2.1209:06
Amaranthbased on ubuntu packages, iirc09:06
michaelcan someone help me ples09:06
geraldwhat package do i need to install to stream videos on firefox/09:06
AmaranthKovecses: And the X packages are from Ubuntu too.09:06
_jeffdoes anyone know the command to run a package search in the terminal?09:06
Kovecseswhat does iirc mean?09:06
AmaranthKovecses: If I Remember Correcly09:06
_jeffgerald: i would get mplayer-mozilla09:07
KovecsesAmaranth: thanks09:07
Shadowpillaranyone here had to deal with an IVTV driver based card?09:07
intelikeyconsidering that i can run a linux system from a floppy disk (two disks actually) that has networking,  i consider the ub base system of 280+ mb   just a bit bloated.09:07
ITSa341I even sold about 75 comps with Linspire preloaded ( yes, I paid for the Linspire OEM installer mambership and did their cert tests on the comps ) and at least 50 of those are still running Linspire exclusively with few if any problems09:07
KovecsesAmaranth: so if i install ubuntu.... should i get ubuntu or kubuntu?09:07
michaelmmm i was able to dual boot win xp and ubuntu, but now when i have win xp installed then suddenly try to install ubuntu, i try to resize it, and the min is 512 B now i only have 80Gb hdd, i only want 10 Gb for ubunut, someone help09:07
vandenmichael: I'm very new here too, but just jump in and ask your question :-)09:07
AmaranthKovecses: Do you like GNOME or KDE?09:07
sampan_jeff, apt-cache search search-string (searches for packages with that string in their name/description) .... or apt-cache show package-name  (to show info about a specific pkg)09:08
michaelits strange that i cant re-size a partition for ubuntu thats 10GB09:08
KovecsesAmaranth: i dont know ..... i havent used linux in a long time09:08
landottergerald, the totem plugin if powered by totem-xine plays about 80% of embedded streaming vids for me.09:08
michaellook at the above question, brb dinner09:08
_jeffsampan: ok thanks man09:08
paulproteus|laptKovecses: I recommend Ubuntu over Kubuntu.09:08
_jeffsampan: im gonna try that now09:08
intelikeyKovecses xubuntu09:08
AmaranthKovecses: In here you'll get GNOME as an answer, in #kubuntu you'll get KDE. :P09:08
paulproteus|laptKovecses: The integration is better.09:08
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Shadowpillaranyone here had to deal with an IVTV driver based card?09:09
Kovecsesok......09:09
Kovecsesubuntu it is09:09
AmaranthKovecses: But #ubuntu has more people so if you need help it's easier.09:09
intelikeyKovecses xubuntu09:09
ITSa341Shadow   I'm trying to deal with an ATI card right now.   good luck :-)09:09
landotterkubuntu and xubuntu are both great, but stock ubuntu is a better place to get your feet wet, imho.09:09
linux_galorebugger nothing on using gmail with evolution09:09
Amaranthintelikey: Let's try to not tell people to use a beta derivative that currently doesn't work too well.09:09
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Amaranthintelikey: Unless they use an older system.09:10
intelikeyoh does it not ??09:10
KovecsesITSa341: ati is easy09:10
geraldthanks09:10
intelikeyi really didn't know there were 'admitted' issues with xubuntu09:10
ITSa341Kov  Radeon Mobility IGP320       help I've tried ALL the How-tos I can find09:11
Amaranthintelikey: It's not done yet.09:11
intelikeyi knew there were with dapper09:11
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ITSa341It's running fine, but no 3d09:11
Amaranthintelikey: Expect it to be better in dapper.09:11
tuvok.. i solved my wpa_supplicant problem.. congrate me09:11
ITSa341fails the 3d test in cedega09:11
AmaranthITSa341: You installed xorg-driver-fglrx?09:11
intelikeyi see09:11
ITSa341yup09:11
AmaranthITSa341: And changed the xorg driver to fglrx instead of ati?09:12
ITSa341modified the xorg.conf file as directed09:12
ITSa341lol09:12
tuvor so i thought!09:12
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ITSa341yup09:12
AmaranthITSa341: Ok, then ATI doesn't like you.09:12
vandentuv: <crowd roars> :-)09:12
dsasshould the right hand of the touchpad on my laptop just scroll? Or do I need to use some modifier key at the same time?09:12
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AmaranthITSa341: They don't support the newer cards right away for linux.09:12
ITSa341then boots to a filed x start    good thing I remember a few console commands   :-)09:12
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binarydigitdsas: are you using the synaptic drivers09:13
geraldhrm I just installed that xine firefox video player09:13
_jeffdoes anybody here use apollon?09:13
intelikeywas it good for you ?09:13
geraldi still get a decoder error when i try to play something in firefox09:13
geraldis there something I need to do to enable it?09:13
ITSa341feels good to get back to Linux. I just hope there is a gps map program I can find for Linux that compares to MS Streets and Trips 200509:13
Kovecsesgerald: did you get w32codecs?09:14
intelikey!vlc09:14
ubotusomebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)09:14
dsasbinarydigit: it's an out-of-the-box dapper flight 2 install, I have no idea.09:15
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geraldwhat's the apt package name for it?09:15
Kovecsesgerald: w32codecs09:15
ITSa341anyone here run AOL under ubuntu?09:15
binarydigiti just installed breezy on my laptop today and my touchpad scrolling worked out of the box09:15
Kovecses!w32codecs09:15
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install09:15
ITSa341binary   congrats mine too09:15
quackerlandotter, have you efer gotten it to play Matroska Video (wrapper) files?09:15
_jeffdoes anybody here use apollon?09:16
AmaranthITSa341: Oh, x fails to start when you change the driver?09:16
quackerwith libxine, I mean?09:16
ITSa341binary  eMachines m5305 here   you??09:16
ITSa341Amar   yup09:16
dsasbinarydigit, ok, I can't see synaptics mentioned anywhere in device manager...09:16
AmaranthITSa341: What's the error message?09:16
landotterquacker, LOL, nope--I have no idea what those are--but it works fine for embedded vids--like you find at news sites...09:16
quackerITSa341, you in Canada?09:16
ITSa341<-- backed up xorg.conf   thank goodness09:16
ITSa341US09:16
ITSa341MI09:17
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AmaranthITSa341: Don't go back to the old version yet, let's try to fix this one.09:17
Tomcat_quacker: I'm pretty sure Matroska works with the "regular" vid setup.09:17
binarydigitdsas: it would be mentioned in xorg.conf09:17
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irvin!help09:17
binarydigitsee if the driver is set to synaptics09:17
binarydigitfor the touchpad09:17
ITSa341quacker  close to Canada09:17
dsasbinarydigit, ahh of course09:17
intelikeyirvin meet the bot, ubotu meet irvin09:18
quackerTomcat_, not in Xine -- only in Mplayer -- which sux cuz it has a much less powerfull interface, crashes more and burns way more CPU09:18
ITSa341Amar   basically tells me it failed and asks me if I want to look at the message    which lists nothing then drops me to a command line09:18
ITSa341Amar   I am trying   :-)09:18
ITSa341<-- on it now09:18
dsasbinarydigit, yep it's there. I'll report it as abug.09:18
quackerITSa341, I have an old e-machine someone just upgraded from sitting under my desk waiting to become a printserver or something.  I though they were a regional (Canadian) company.09:19
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ITSa341Amar   I really like ubuntu and plan to use it as my primary OS09:19
assasukassehi all09:19
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Amaranthquacker: Gateway owns emachines09:19
assasukassei have a problemn with a very new lap09:19
assasukassea compaq R400009:20
Amaranthquacker: They're based in San Diego, California09:20
quackerewww09:20
quackerNoCals!09:20
kyledI worked in the bestbuy around Philadelphia and we sold emachines as well.09:20
irvinintelikey, i'm seriously lagged09:20
ITSa341quacker  I have an old eMachine running as a server for a hotel reservation database about 8 miles from here   old amd k6-3 40009:20
ITSa341runs rock silid still09:20
geraldwell w32codecs is not on the repositories09:20
geraldso where do I get them?09:20
liable!laptop09:21
ubotumethinks laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam09:21
Madpilot!tell gerald about restricted09:21
Madpilotgerald: there's a URL for the w32codecs in the URL you just got sent by the bot...09:21
quackergerald, look again (and this time make sure you have Multiverse and Universe)09:21
ITSa341this is AMD 2200+ ATI Radeon, 1024MB Ram and widescreen. If I can get this doing everything I need this will be my main pc with ubuntu on it09:21
intelikeyphreq mdk makes a good enough server for me tanks knee way09:21
phreqmdk?09:21
liable!laptop is also tuxmobil.org09:22
ubotuokay, liable09:22
Amaranth!laptop09:22
uboturumour has it, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org09:22
Amaranthok, it didn't go over09:22
Amaranthgood09:22
phreqI have FreeBSD on two floppies. ;)09:22
phreqCan't go wrong with that.09:22
landottergerald, you can just to to the mplayer website, grab the codecs and decompress them into /usr/lib/win32  you'll have to make the directory, but totem, xine, mplayer and whatnot will find them automatically....09:22
ITSa341but, I use my laptop all day every day so it has to do everything I need without dual booting so I need ubuntu working right all the way around09:22
Amaranthlandotter: only if you have totem-xine installed09:22
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intelikeyphreq i have linux on two floppies  tu shea09:23
landotterAmaranth, of course. :P09:23
intelikey:)09:23
phreqProbably a lot easier to install than the daemon too.09:23
ITSa341Amar   I'm reinstalling the drivers right now so I can try again09:23
phreqPaenguin > Daemon. ;)09:23
quackerITSa341, install with "noapic" and "nolapic" and pay carefull attention to the mouse driver config09:23
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ITSa341mouse and touchpad are working great right from day one :-)09:24
intelikeyping09:25
phreqI'm outta here.09:25
ITSa341night phreq09:25
intelikeygooday09:25
zviivzhi ... heard this is a nice place to get help on ubuntu linux09:25
ITSa341gooday   aussie?09:25
binarydigitzviivz: whered you hear that crazy rumor09:25
zviivzi have a question here .. how do i mount an Apple HFS harddisk?09:25
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OrbordeHow can I force my DNS lookupmadoggle to use TCP?09:26
zviivzbinarydigit: on the ubuntu forum postings :)09:26
binarydigit=P09:26
vandenRepeat of my question: Today, trying to trace down a hardware problem with an install of breezy ubuntu with the kubuntu desktop added, I booted up with Knoppix 4.0. Now, when booting normally, the screen showing the loading process has changed from the ubuntu one to the kubuntu one. That seems rude :-)  I've no idea how to fix that. What would I need to look into?09:26
phreqCheck out man mount too.09:26
phreqAnyway, I'm gone.09:26
OrbordeI'm behind at least 2 layers of NAT, so UDP is kind of sucking hard. I can't use WWW, either.09:26
ITSa341hey vanden      just don't give up, I seem to find all the help I need here.09:27
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vandenITSa341: wasn't giving up, just bumping back into sight :-)09:28
ITSa341reminds me of the Linspire community but even nicer and friendlier09:28
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ITSa341which is the key to getting Linux more readily available09:28
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vandenITSa341: I think it is the Python collection. A nicer newsgroup than comp.lang.python I've yet to see.09:28
vandenconnection09:29
intelikeyvanden 'when booting'  is that pre boot  or while X is loading ?09:29
dsasvanden, It'd be one of the packages that kubuntu-desktop depends on, kubuntu-artwork-usplash09:29
duomaxwellnewb question! How do I burn a .iso in Ubuntu?09:29
vandenintelikey: Too new to know how to answer. I mean the screen that reports the various things like "checking network connection" and "syncying clock" etc.09:29
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dsasduomaxwell, right click on it, then press "burn cd" or something similar09:29
chmod775hi folks09:30
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ITSa341hello chmod09:30
chmod775How can I eanble transparency in gdesklets09:30
duomaxwelldsas too simple lol, too used to using thigs like toast or nero to do it09:30
chmod775Hi ITSa34109:30
vandendsas: Thanks. They were there before the knoppix boot. What would knoppix have chnaged to bring them to the fore?09:30
zviivzduomaxell: use Nautilus09:30
chmod775gdesklets == transparency ????09:30
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zviivzgnome default file explorer i believe09:31
intelikeyok vanden that is boot splash.  check in the system preferances and look for boot splash somethin.09:31
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vandenintelikey: thanks, off to do.09:31
zviivzanyone here installed Ubuntu on PPC??09:31
tuvis there a kernel option to adjust the console size to the monitor's?09:31
chmod775can anyone hlelp me09:31
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chmod775with gdesk;lets09:31
chmod775?09:32
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dsasvanden, it seems very unlikely that knoppix could/would change that, last time I used it, it mounted all your filesystems as read only....09:32
llama32hi, im using the gnome 2.12 demo/live disc (ubuntu based), is there a way to install to HD?09:32
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intelikeyvanden it is highly unlikely that knoppix did it.  but that rather it was done before you shut down prior to booting knoppix.09:32
vandenintelikey: Did you mean via the gui?09:32
cdubyaany quick way to find out how many packages there are in the repositories, like a total guesstimate?09:33
AmaranthITSa341: anything?09:33
michaelcan someone help me pls09:33
Amaranthcdubya: hang on, i'll make the bot tell you09:33
cdubyaAmaranth, kewl.09:33
vandendsas and intelikey: I take your collective point. But 30 boots had ubuntu artwork, I booted once with knoppix, ran acpi -V then rebooted and it was changed.09:33
chmod775!gdesklets09:33
ubotugDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/09:33
duomaxwellok, newb question 2, how do I make VLC the default media player?09:33
cdubya:)09:33
Amaranth!dstats09:34
intelikeyvia or gui  ????09:34
chmod775ubotu, u are a fool?09:34
ubotu...but u is already something else...09:34
Amaranthd'oh, broken09:34
cdubyaubotu's broken?09:34
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chmod775huh why?09:34
vandenintelikey: was that to me? If so, don't follow/09:34
Amaranthdstats is09:34
cdubyaah09:34
intelikeyvanden no.09:35
cdubyaany idea, in a guesstimate how many there are?09:35
ITSa341Amar   sorry, was away. Just finished downloading fglrx again.09:35
Amaranthdstats hoary09:35
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DjDarkmanwhy can`t i use alsa ,for default sound input in the multimedia systems selector?09:35
Amaranth!dstats hoary09:35
cdubyabummer09:35
Amaranthgrr09:35
Amaranth!dstats hoary09:35
Random_Transitquestion...is KDE 3.5 in any ubu repositories yet? and if so, which one?09:36
Amaranthit works in a PM09:36
Amaranth!dstats hoary09:36
Amaranthfscking bot09:36
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 13535 packages, 1383 maintainers, 25587 MB installed size, 8002 MB compressed size.09:36
Hobbsee!tell Random_Transit about kde3.509:36
Amaranththere!09:36
DjDarkmanwhy can`t i use alsa ,for default sound input in the multimedia systems selector?09:36
AmaranthDjDarkman: why can't you?09:36
intelikey8g09:36
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DjDarkmanAmaranth, i can select it ,but when i test it ,i get an error09:37
AmaranthDjDarkman: Please file a bug report.09:37
intelikeyi'd /j debian and check the dstats on sarge but i don't think they let IRC-NAME=root in that channel09:38
cdubya!dstats breezy09:38
Amaranth!dstats sarge09:38
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Amaranthbleh, that used to work09:38
cdubyaheh09:38
ITSa341Amar   when I try to depmod fglrx it errors09:38
AmaranthITSa341: _what_ errors?09:38
ITSa341FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device09:38
Amaranthok...09:39
AmaranthITSa341: just modprobe it09:39
ITSa341<-- sure I'm doing something very simple wrong09:39
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intelikey!dstats dapper09:39
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18246 packages, 1702 maintainers, 36347 MB installed size, 11157 MB compressed size.09:39
DjDarkmanwhat does "Failed to construct pipline for Advanced ...."09:39
DjDarkman?09:39
DjDarkmanAmaranth,09:39
ITSa341same error09:40
michaelsomeone help?09:40
AmaranthDjDarkman: That means the test failed. That's a gstreamer error, not an ALSA one.09:40
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michaelhelp pls09:40
AmaranthDjDarkman: I know nothing about how sound works in linux, sorry.09:40
Amaranthmichael: Please ask a question.09:40
llama32anyone? how to install from live CD?09:40
AmaranthITSa341: ok, i'm thinking your card isn't supported09:40
Amaranthllama32: You can't.09:40
intelikeymichael nope we are not going to help, until you describe the problem.09:40
Amaranthintelikey: Please don't be rude.09:41
michael ok now, heres my prob, now i was able to dual boot beforehand, and resize partition....ok i re-formatt, install win xp, the straight after thats done, i try ubuntu, then i get to the paritionin part, now i click re-size hda 1 or watever then type in 10 GB as a new partition, not its askin for a 512 B minium any help09:41
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ITSa341Amar   well, 2d works great and I can play games on my office comp09:41
intelikeyllama32 use the install cd not the live cd to install.09:41
Amaranthmichael: I don't think you can put in '10GB' for a value09:41
mitrovarrdoes anyone know a command that turns the monitor on/off?09:41
Amaranthmichael: Try putting in all the zeros.09:42
michaelwell in the past i was able to, i used to have a 10 gb partition for ubuntu and then the rest for win xp09:42
michaelwat u mean all zeros09:42
michael?09:43
intelikeymichael try 10000000000    in place of 10GB09:43
michaelok thanks, so that wont wipe my win xp partition will it?09:43
DjDarkmanwhat does "Failed to construct pipline for Advanced ...." mean if i get this while i test Alsa in the input in the mutlimedia system selector?09:44
intelikeyit's not supposed to, no.09:44
ITSa341OK  repeating an old question   anyone here have any good luck with AOL under ubuntu?09:44
michaelok thanks, i was successfully able to dual boot in the past, but now i cant, now ill re-format and install windows then try ubuntu again09:44
intelikeyDjDarkman probably that the /dev/* was not found.09:45
DjDarkmanand how do i correct it?09:45
llama32intelikey: yes, seeing as i obviously have an install disc at my disposal (why else would i ask about installing from the live CD?), that would be a very good option, although i lack the brainpower to think of that myself09:45
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AmaranthThe rudeness stops here. ;)09:46
mitrovarrnevermind, figured it out myself09:47
intelikeyllama32 it is not very likely that you will have much success installing from the live cd.  if that is the only option.   mount the hard drive partition and copy all files over then pivot root and install a boot loader09:47
Amaranthintelikey: The live cd is customized for that environment, it will _suck_ as an installed system.09:47
intelikeyyep09:48
Amaranthalthough i guess it would all get fixed when you upgraded to dapper in 4 months09:48
ITSa341Live cd has it's uses. It booted and everything worked including 802.11. That made me install it.09:48
intelikeyllama32 then you will need to reconfigure apt and apt-get the ubuntu-desktop.09:49
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(sudo_smartass/#ubuntu) can someone point me in a direction where i can find soundcard help?10:29
(rob_p/#ubuntu) VanDame: Once you have done that, you will be able to do, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart".10:30
(sudo_smartass/#ubuntu) i know it has to be an easy fix it just aint coming to my brain10:30
(intelikey/#ubuntu) sudo_smartass module loaded ok ?10:30
(intelikey/#ubuntu) lsmod10:30
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mevvis:)10:30
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intelikeysudo_smartass card detected ok ?       cat /proc/asound/cards10:31
mendyIf I manually download a .deb binary, where can I put it so that synaptics will see it and install it for me?10:32
sudo_smartassok lemme check10:32
QMarioWhat is PREFIX?10:32
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intelikeymendy you can  sudo dpkg -i file.deb10:33
sudo_smartassit only gave me a prompt?10:33
sudo_smartassthat doesn't seem right10:33
mendyI am not having luck downloading through synaptic it keeps telling me connection failed so I just http'ed to the site10:33
mendyOk That's just as good, thanks10:33
sudo_smartassintelikey, that aint normal right?10:34
intelikeysudo_smartass back to step one.10:34
QMarioWhat's the situation?10:34
sudo_smartassintelikey, and i load it how?10:34
intelikeylsmod  is the sound card's module loaded10:34
intelikeymodprobe10:34
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sudo_smartassintelikey, i turned off the start sound server in the sounds menu under preferences10:35
mendyIs there any reason synaptic will fail when the site is up and I can download it directly? Maybe the file is too big?10:35
sudo_smartasswhat arguements do i add to modprobe?10:35
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missmoosehow can i install winxp on an external hdd when ubuntu is on the internal?10:35
VanDamehei rob10:35
intelikeythen turn it back on.10:35
VanDame/etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:35
VanDameNot starting apache2 - edit /etc/default/apache2 and change NO_START to be 0.10:35
VanDamemuakz:/home/admin# cat /etc/default/apache210:35
VanDame# 0 = start on boot; 1 = don't start on boot10:35
VanDameNO_START=010:35
VanDame?10:35
VanDameso ?10:35
Ribsmissmoose: Unplug the internal drive maybe?10:35
VanDamei'm edit it use notepad10:36
sudo_smartassmiss10:36
sudo_smartassu might have a problem with that10:36
RibsVanDame: Don't use notepad10:36
VanDamei have done10:36
RibsVanDame: It'll add Windows style line breaks which may confuse the script's parser10:36
VanDameanyidea ?10:36
intelikeymissmoose if bios can boot the ext your in binnus10:37
WizzoMaFizzoWhere can I get a good list of repos?10:37
RibsVanDame: Open the file in nano and correct any damage done10:37
RibsVanDame: Such as any ^M's on the end of a line10:37
sudo_smartasswinxp records settings from the install... what mobo, proc, memory, sound, video, etc.... if you are putting it on an external u wont be able to be moving it from computer to computer without issues10:37
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sudo_smartassits part of their no piracy deal10:37
sudo_smartassif you plan on leaving it though... change your bios to see that drive as your primary....then pop in the cd (change the boot to cd before hdd) and then install to the external10:38
mendyThe wine program is downloading at 6.8KB per second!! I think that's why it's getting stuck.10:38
Ribssudo_smartass: Not always true10:38
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Ribssudo_smartass: Corperate editions of Windows don't have this restriction10:39
intelikeysudo_smartass can if it is never connected to the inet :)\10:39
mendyDoes anyone know which download manaager is good?10:39
concept10Gosh, I love XFCE apps, they are so light and quick10:39
sudo_smartassahh yes...10:39
sudo_smartassbut10:39
sudo_smartasswho uses the comp without the internet intel?10:39
sudo_smartassand yeah... the corp can... but not many people i know have that edition10:39
RibsI thought Windows would just lock itself out if it needed 'activation' ?10:40
RibsI don't think that requires a Internet connection.10:40
intelikeyi boot windows (not xp) but never connect it to the net.10:40
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wizardjamesyeah10:41
Ribssudo_smartass: I'll correct you again. Don't run Windows and it's never a problem! :)10:41
intelikeyor   not   and10:41
sudo_smartassribs... nope... u just change the xp key10:41
wizardjameslol10:41
sudo_smartasslol exactly ribs10:41
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sudo_smartassbut in my case... have no sound... had to use windows for it10:41
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wizardjamesi am slowly moving over to ubuntu.. tonight if i get the power will be the 3ed time reisntalling it on a partion casue i keep messing it up.10:41
sudo_smartassbut now that my windows is proper screwed to the point of reinstalling... i will get back to trying to figure out the sound card issue on this side of things10:41
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RibsWhy is it screwed?10:42
sudo_smartassvirus10:42
Ribsah10:42
sudo_smartassdidn't see it coming10:42
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sudo_smartassshould have10:42
intelikeyi still have the 95 the came with a box.... it plays a game now and then10:42
sudo_smartassbut i was tired10:42
sudo_smartasslol10:42
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Ribsran a .exe you should'nt of done?10:42
wizardjamesi love xp..it makes me money < computer tech (more hardware.. some software for windows)10:42
sudo_smartassso yeah... intel... what was that about the modprobe thing?10:42
MachineScrewany one know how to convert various video files to theora10:43
sudo_smartassdude i dont even know what theora is...10:43
sudo_smartasslol10:43
RibsI hate Windows. I have to use it all day at work10:43
RibsIt's a major pain in my ass10:43
sudo_smartassim mixed... gotta use windows at work... right next to linux and unix10:43
RibsNeeds rebooting 3-4 times a day10:43
MachineScrewsudo_smartass, its a video codec10:43
sudo_smartasslol shit10:43
sudo_smartassget a sco box then10:43
sudo_smartassthat unix sucks10:43
VanDame# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:44
VanDameForcing reload of web server: Apache2 ... no pidfile found! not running?httpd (pid 12044) already running10:44
RibsCan't really10:44
Ribsthe company made all the software with Windows10:44
LinuxKnightok seemingly easy question- i set the wrong program to Edit user scripts under Greasemonkey- however I can't remember where to change this back, it isn't in any of the gnome prefs...10:44
sudo_smartassand has to be rebooted every day10:44
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MachineScrewsudo_smartass, off shoot of ogg vorbis10:44
VanDamesame rob10:44
VanDamehttp://84.244.4.160/10:44
VanDame!_!10:44
ubotuVanDame: No idea10:44
RibsIt's fairly scarey, some of the Windows boxen we have are mission critical10:44
sudo_smartassdamnit... did intel leave?10:44
sudo_smartassoh ok machine10:44
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sudo_smartasslol10:44
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RibsVanDame: Try it with the 'stop' option, then 'zap', then 'start'10:45
MachineScrewso again, any one know how to convert various video files to theora10:45
wizardjamesflac and wavpack are best codics.. imo10:45
irvinVanDame, whereis apachectl10:45
RibsVanDame: It seems the script is out of sync with reality10:45
wizardjameswith ogg.. somewere there10:45
Ribsright, off to work, have fun peeps.10:45
paulproteus|laptVanDame: Do you have another web server installed along with Apache2?10:45
paulproteus|laptMaybe tinyhttpd or something?10:45
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VanDameanyone can resolve this prob ?10:45
mendyHey guys, what's the best downloading package?10:45
rob_pVanDame:  Stop apache and make sure all instances are killed off.  Then, use /etc/init.d/apache2 to restart it.10:45
MachineScrewi need to convert files to be 160x160 and fit on 128 mb SD card10:45
wizardjamesBE back in ...30 mins? gona reinstall ubuntu .. then retry everything i did today..10:45
VanDamebefore i'm use apache110:45
mendyMy downloads are awfully slow10:45
paulproteus|laptVanDame: Did you apt-get remove apache1?10:46
LinuxKnightany help on where to change the Edit program option for Greasemonkey, or possibly a global GNOME option?10:46
wizardjameswhat does the dvd have that the cd does not?10:46
MachineScrewLinuxKnight, System>Prefrences>Prefered Apps10:47
LinuxKnightnot in there MachineScrew10:47
rob_pVanDame:  Do, "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop" and then ps -A | grep apache" to make sure.  Once you have stopped all apache processes, do a, "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" and it should come up with the new configuration.10:47
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MachineScrewwhat are you in10:47
LinuxKnightMachineScrew, it has web browser, email, and terminal- not text editor10:47
LinuxKnightubuntu10:47
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LinuxKnight5.1010:48
MachineScrewGNOME install10:48
iTuneCan anybody help me ?!10:48
LinuxKnighti know there has to be something, just more used to RH/Fedora10:48
MachineScrewor server10:48
LinuxKnightyes gnome10:48
MachineScrewhmm10:48
VanDame32449 ?        00:00:00 apache210:48
VanDame32734 ?        00:00:00 apache210:48
VanDame  426 ?        00:00:00 apache210:48
VanDame  428 ?        00:00:00 apache210:48
VanDame  751 ?        00:00:00 apache210:48
VanDamekillal lof them10:48
rob_pVanDame:  I suspect that since you started apache with apachectl, the init script is having trouble stopping the original process.  If that's the case, you might need to do a, "sudo killall apache2"10:48
rob_pVanDame:  Yes.  Kill them all.10:49
iTuneI have problem in installation " Unable to install initrd-tools10:49
iTuneCheck /target/var/log/bootstrap.log10:49
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VanDame/etc/init.d/apache2 start10:49
VanDameStarting web server: Apache2.10:49
LinuxKnightMachineScrew, perhaps something wrong/misconfig'd with gnome, in particular the preferred aps?10:50
rob_pVanDame:  Good!  Now it should work!10:50
VanDameyeah10:50
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VanDamethanks rob10:50
VanDamehttp://84.244.4.160/status.php?php10:50
MachineScrewLinuxKnight, gedit should be the default editor10:50
rob_pVanDame:  You welcome.  Have fun!10:50
wizardjameswhat port does xchat use for dcc?..10:51
MachineScrewso what are you trying to do exactly10:51
VanDamenite all10:51
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iTunePlease10:51
iTunecan anybody help me i have install. problem10:51
iTune?10:51
LinuxKnightMachineScrew, i accidentally changed it when I clicked "Edit" in greasemonkey, apparently gedit wasn't default10:51
kaffeendhey guys, two things: 1) What is the difference between KDE and Gnome? and 2) is there somewhere I can get a hi-res image of the Ubuntu logo?10:52
wizardjamesiTune , tell us what it is..we cant know what your thinking10:52
LinuxKnighti had to pick something, picked something wrong, and now i can't change it10:52
geraldwhat's a good filebrowser other than thunar or naitlus10:52
MachineScrewwizardjames, what ever one you want Settings>Prefrences>File Transfer10:52
iTunewizardjames: I got this error in installation " Unable to install initrd-tools10:52
iTuneCheck /target/var/log/bootstrap.log10:52
LinuxKnightand the preferred apps is supposed to have "TextEditor" but doesn't??? (Help system shows it)10:52
Shadow_pillarhow do I set the mysql administrator?10:52
Shadow_pillarin ubuntu10:52
MachineScrewwell find a text file10:52
MachineScrewthen right click on it10:52
iTunehm. i am installing10:53
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MachineScrewthen go to properties10:53
iTuneubuntu for the first time, i normaly choose ext3 partition and swap space10:53
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MachineScrewclick on open with tab10:53
iTuneand installation begin, but unable to load initrd-tools10:53
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Shadow_pillarhow do I set the mysql administrator?10:54
intelikeyiTune your cd dirty ?10:54
MachineScrewLinuxKnight, GNOME developers removed it the help is old10:54
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floamhas anyone here gotten SATA DVD drives working in Dapper?10:54
iTuneinetlikey, it is new there is no any scratch on cd10:55
MachineScrewthe way i am telling you seems to be the only way to change what opens what10:55
iTuneperfectly shinning10:55
floamI've got a bug running: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21515; any ideas?10:55
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MachineScrewLinuxKnight, so whats happening10:55
kaffeendfloam - what's a SATA DVD drive?10:56
MachineScrewfloam, Dapper is not right yet10:56
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intelikeyiTune boot the install cd with server-expert mode  (use F1 key befor boot)  and when it boots select the test cd option.10:56
MachineScrewbut I belive SATA drives are seen as SCSI10:56
MachineScrewif that can help any10:57
KnelixAnyone know a quick way to add a prefix to all jpg files in a directory. For example, make make files 1.jpg through 100.jpg into Birthday- 001.jpg through Birthday- 100.jpg.10:57
floamkaffeend: Serial ATA dvd drive10:57
floamMachineScrew: "not right" ?10:57
kaffeendnews to me :O10:57
MachineScrewfloam, ya as in Alpha10:57
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rosendahl_heya guys... does anyone know if I can incorporate beep-media-player into one of the panels ?10:57
intelikeylook for /dev/sd?10:57
floamYes, I'm aware10:57
MachineScrewok10:57
floamMachineScrew: it's closer to working than Breezy, as breezy doesn't have ATAPI support in libata at all10:57
Myrttirosendahl_: yes you can, install the panel applet10:57
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mrkojeKnelix,  you can do it with a script10:58
rosendahl_Myrtti, heh allright I havent seen that one.. Remember where you found it ?10:58
MachineScrewfloam try getting a vanilla kernel from kernel.org10:58
Myrttion the ubuntu wiki there was some howtos10:58
buntuswatch a command i can watch someone logged in on ssh ?10:58
Knelixmrkoje: Where can I find a script, or at least an example I can modify?10:58
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iTunehmmmmm10:59
iTunei will try10:59
iTune:S10:59
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mrkojehold on I'm making one real quick10:59
mrkojeKnelix,10:59
floamMachineScrew: my next step will probably be grabbing a newer kernel via git myself with the latest libata stuff from jeff garzik pulled10:59
iTunemrkoje pricas li bosanski10:59
iTune?10:59
MachineScrewfloam, ya that would be the best bet10:59
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MachineScrewfloam, new distros offten have a rough start11:00
mrkojeiTune ??11:00
MachineScrewfrom what I know Ubuntu is stll new what is breezy like the 3rd release11:01
floamfor the record, it does look like it should work in Dapper, they've got a 2.6.15 git snapshot, and even some patches that seem to fix ATAPI stuff11:01
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MachineScrewfloam, thats good to know11:01
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floamMachineScrew: I don't know if I'd say that, it's based upon debian, which has been around for many years11:01
floamover a decade11:02
MachineScrewfloam, ya I know I used debian 111:02
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MachineScrewonce11:02
MachineScrewfloam, but debian lack very much a recent stable repos11:03
intelikey<MachineScrew> floam, new distros offten have a rough start <---- agreed, but; it's based on the debian collection  it shouldn't be very rough.11:03
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sudo_smartassdamnit11:03
sudo_smartassnow im having trouble with my ntfs drives11:03
sudo_smartassok11:04
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Nikusanhi all, bittorent problem. gnome-btdownload works fine, my nat and portforwarding is fine, but azureus isn't working. any ideas?11:04
sudo_smartassanyone here know what my fstab should look like when mounting 2 ntfs partitions?11:04
intelikeyvirii affecting the bios and there by affecting all os's sudo_smartass11:04
MachineScrewwell Ubuntu is still very different enough that the people putting it together are not realy working from debian any more11:04
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sudo_smartassintel i dont wanna hear that crap11:04
Hobbseesudo_smartass: the same line twice, except for the locations and mount points being different..11:04
ubuntusalut11:04
sudo_smartasssalut11:05
arnoldHow do i update the driver for my gfxcard?11:05
sudo_smartassce fazi azi?11:05
sudo_smartasslol11:05
arnoldIt is a Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device11:05
ubuntuc'est trop cool ubuntu11:05
MachineScrewthough useing deb pkgs thats where they are similar11:05
ubuntulol11:05
sudo_smartassanyway... intel... i modded it myself and it tells me i screwed something up... but it looks right to me11:05
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ubuntuet l'installation est super simple11:05
sudo_smartasshere is the line i added... tell me whats wrong with it11:05
MachineScrewit would be like saying SuSE witch at one time was based on redhat11:05
MachineScrewbut now very different11:06
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intelikeysudo_smartass let's have a look11:06
sudo_smartassnu vorbesc romana11:06
sudo_smartass/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    nls=utf-8,umask0222     0       011:06
sudo_smartasslol11:06
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arnoldAnybody? I get an error trying to play a game: Could not create glx context11:06
sudo_smartasshe didn't like that answer i guess11:06
raydoes anybody else's hard drive light stay on always?11:06
sudo_smartassonly when im using it constantly ray11:07
intelikeynls= ?11:07
Hobbseesudo_smartass:  my line is: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       011:07
MachineScrewany one know how to convert various video files to theora11:07
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sudo_smartasshobbsee... can u read and write to it?11:07
raysudo_smartass, this does not happen in other distros11:07
Hobbseesudo_smartass: no, that's why ro is there - read only.  Yes, i read with no problems11:07
sudo_smartassahh i think it might be the -11:07
intelikeysudo_smartass not with ro   but there is no dash in the nsl=11:08
sudo_smartassmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,11:08
sudo_smartass       missing codepage or other error11:08
MachineScrewsudo_smartass, NTFS write support on linux is VERY sketchy11:08
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sudo_smartassok what does that mean then11:08
MachineScrewany one know how to convert various video files to theora11:09
sudo_smartasssub the hda1 for hda5... same thing for both11:09
intelikeysudo /media/hda5 exist11:09
sudo_smartasscommand not found11:09
Hobbseeintelikey: dont you mean ls /media/hda5?11:10
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MachineScrewany one know how to convert various video files to theora11:12
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bob_4_a_daysudo /media/hda5 exist11:12
bob_4_a_dayi got diss'd  my isp diss'd me.11:13
bob_4_a_daywhy they be diss'in' on me like that ?11:13
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bob_4_a_dayMachineScrew vlc may be able to do that.11:14
mendyHey guys, I inserted a cdrw disk into my computer and it mounted it read only.11:14
mendyHow do I change it to write?11:14
mendyI tried chmod but it didn't let11:14
mendyHow can I remount it?11:15
mrkojemendy,  you have to remount it rw11:15
mendyHow?11:15
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mendyWhat's the remount command for a cd?11:15
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bob_4_a_daythe line in /etc/fstab  that pertains to the device needs the   'ro'  removed mendy11:15
MachineScrewbob_4_a_day, convert a video .avi,.mpg,.mov to theora11:15
bob_4_a_dayMachineScrew yeah you will have to look i'm not sure but it may.11:16
mendyOh yes I did edit that file when I permanantly mounted my windows system11:16
mendyI will have a look11:16
mendyThnks11:16
MachineScrewbob_4_a_day, I went strait to the source #theora11:16
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bob_4_a_dayand MachineScrew ?11:17
LinuxKnightok MachineScrew tried doing the right click on text file thing, those open in gedit, but the greasemonkey Edit button still launches the wrong prog, even after uninstall/reinstalling greasemonkey11:17
LinuxKnightmessed up config file?11:17
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MachineScrewwow11:17
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MachineScrewbob_4_a_day, ffmpeg2theora11:18
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bob_4_a_dayhmmm  i'll make a note11:18
mendyHey Bob, This is the line in my /etc/fstab what do I do?11:18
mendy/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       011:18
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mendyIt doesn't say ro11:19
bob_4_a_dayadd rw11:19
poningruunder options11:19
bob_4_a_dayuser,rw,noauto11:19
mendyOk your good11:19
mendyWhere, after the noauto?11:19
poningruyeah thats fine too11:20
poningruor what bob_4_a_day said11:20
mendyNow how do I reboot the /etc/fstab?11:20
poningrumake sure to keep the comma syntax11:20
mendyDid that11:20
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poningruno there is a way to do the thing with fstab11:20
poningruI think its -a11:20
poningrumount -a11:21
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poningrusomeone wanna look that up?11:21
mendyjust mount -a?11:21
Hobbseeponingru: sudo mount -a11:21
mendyOk I'll  do that11:21
poningruyeah thats it11:21
Hobbsee:)11:21
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bob_4_a_daymendy you can either umount /media/cd* ;mount /media/cd*    or  mount -o remount /media/cd*11:22
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mendyOk it worked I think11:22
mendyI got one more problem, though11:22
poningruawesome11:22
LinuxKnightshoot no #greasemonkey11:22
poningruwhats up11:22
LinuxKnighthmm i think its a messed up config in greasemonkey11:22
mendyIt is owned by root and I want to drag and drop it11:22
poningruLinuxKnight: /me is a junky on that11:22
mendyIt tells me I'm not the owner11:23
mendyDo I have to change the owner to me (chown)?11:23
mendyOr is there a way I can make it work anyway11:23
LinuxKnightponingru, perhaps you can help?  I accidentally changed the "Edit" function in manage user scripts to a CLI editor (no default was set, clicked Edit, chose wrong thing), and now I can't change it back11:23
poningruLinuxKnight: looking11:24
LinuxKnightand for some reason, the GNOME preferred apps control panel doesn't have entry for Text Editor11:24
bob_4_a_dayshould be ok to own it mendy11:24
LinuxKnightthough it seems I have default text editor set to gedit now, using nautilus anyway11:24
BigIsleVeganAnybody have any low-end laptop suggestions? I'd like to recommend something for student govt use that has 802.11 wireless and and is well supported by Linux. Thanks!11:24
bob_4_a_daymendy i'd just    sudo chown <uname> -R /media11:25
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perywhere i can find the patch for atheros chipset (wireless) for mode monitor???11:25
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mendyOk will do11:25
SweetestSavageIs there a GUI application that can unRAR?11:25
tRSSArchiveManager?!11:26
LinuxKnightBigIsleVegan, check www.linux-laptops.net... offhand anything IBM is usually good, a good used one off ebay or etc...11:26
holycowSweetestSavage, archiver can unrar, just install rar11:26
holycowor unrar ... whichever it is, and archiver will use it11:26
SweetestSavageholycow - I installed unrar-free and Archive Manager still calls it an unknown format =/11:26
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BigIsleVeganok, thanks, linuxknight, even IBM laptop hardware is supported then?11:26
holycowthen install rar11:26
SweetestSavageholycow, sudo apt-get install rar-free ?11:26
mendyBy the way, the mount -a did not change the perms to write11:27
LinuxKnightBigIsleVegan, thats linux-laptop.net sry11:27
BigIsleVeganok, thanks11:27
mendysorry about that, I just noticed it's still read only.11:27
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LinuxKnightBigIsleVegan, yes most models11:27
BigIsleVeganLinuxKnight, neato, thanks11:27
LinuxKnightthis site has user reviews of what is supported in Linux :)11:27
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mendyIs there another?11:27
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mendyI did sudo mount -a and it didn't return any errors11:28
mendySo I figured it worked11:28
holycowSweetestSavage, give it a go, it's been a bit since i bothered looking up the package name11:28
LinuxKnightBigIsleVegan, i tinkered with a t30 for a while with ubuntu, but had to give it back to my father so had to take out the livecd and back to borgxp... ;)11:28
LinuxKnightbut it worked well11:29
SweetestSavageholycow, no-go.. I'm not sure what the package name is, I'm searching it with synaptic..11:29
BigIsleVeganborgxp, lol11:29
BigIsleVegan:-)11:29
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intelikeymendy no. not unless you umount it first and if i recall there was a noauto in that fstab line ????     that means -a will ignore that device.11:29
SweetestSavageholycow, however.. searching for "rar" gives me an enormous list of packages x.X11:29
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LinuxKnightponingru, any hints on this? i'm looking thru the .mozilla/blah/greasemonkey stuff for anything, but not seeing what controls the Edit command11:29
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mendyOk let me try now11:30
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ubuntuHi, I need a urgent help: I compiled kernel and I made a mistake on grub. My "/" partition is /dev/hda9, but I typed "root (hd0,0)". Now I am runing Live CD to solve this, but when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/hda9" output is /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.11:30
ubuntu Can someone help me, pleasE?11:30
holycowSweetestSavage, just install it already :) you can always apt-get remove --purge package name later11:30
poningruLinuxKnight: dude which edit did you press?11:31
arisubuntu, yes, 2 minutes11:31
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arisi had that problem a while ago11:31
ubuntuaris, ok, thanks11:31
SweetestSavageholycow, no I can't find the package name, I meant. rar-free isn't it. There isn't a package in the repos that starts with "rar", however there is an unrar-free one that I installed, but Archive manager still calls .rar formats as unknown11:31
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arisso ubuntu, you ran livecd, mounted your / somewhere and then chroot'ed to it ?11:32
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intelikeyubuntu just edit the boot/grub/menu.lst  and change the  (hd0,0)  to  (hd0,9)    or 8 or what ever.11:32
holycowunrar-nonfree <-- try that?11:32
sudo_smartassok11:32
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sudo_smartassstill cant figure it out11:32
ubuntuaris, yeap, I did mount /dev/hda9 and everything is ok11:32
SweetestSavageholycow, nonexistent. And yes, all repos are enabled11:32
arisah yes ubuntu, you don't need to reinstall grub11:32
arisif it's already booting11:32
holycow*ummm*11:32
poningruLinuxKnight: I am assuming the one directly below the list of userscripts11:33
SweetestSavageholycow, says this: E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate11:33
mendyI just did just like you said intelikely and you're right11:33
ubuntuaris, It is not booting11:33
Stormx2SweetestSavage: Install universe repo11:33
mendyIt did mount again. But.... More technical problems11:33
arisubuntu, if grub loads, you just have to modify menu.lst11:33
ubuntuaris, I runned grub for wrong artition11:33
arisoh11:33
intelikeymendy ?11:33
SweetestSavageStormx2, how would I "install" it?11:33
mendyI get message that says the disk is protected.11:33
arisok then you have your chroot11:33
mendyWhat does that mean?11:33
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LinuxKnightponingru, yes... i think i found the answer11:33
ubuntuaris, what is chroot?11:33
arishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub11:33
Stormx2!tell SweetestSavage about repos11:33
ubuntuaris, let me see, thanks11:34
andreabCan someone help me with GnomeMeeting?11:34
poningruLinuxKnight: for me it just doesnt do anything11:34
holycowSweetestSavage, there is a package called rar ... do this11:34
mendyYes I'm getting lost  here I see11:34
poningruLinuxKnight: did you fix it?11:34
holycowSweetestSavage, just as a point of interest, try using synaptic to search11:34
poningrudude i gotta go11:34
LinuxKnightit was mentioned in the .mozilla/blahblah stuff... its set in about:config, greasemonkey.editor....11:34
mendyThe disk is protected it says11:34
LinuxKnightDUUUHHH11:34
LinuxKnightheh11:34
arislook through the document. the interesting part is "recovering grub manually" but you need to set a chroot first11:34
holycowthe gui will let you serach results much easier11:34
sudo_smartassso... yeah... where can i go for help with my drives?11:34
mendyI never protected it??11:34
sudo_smartassor my sound11:34
intelikeymendy are you sure the drive supports bios read/write mode ?11:34
poningruLinuxKnight: hehe cool11:34
LinuxKnighti figured it would be something simple11:34
poningruLinuxKnight: yeah11:34
SweetestSavageholycow, I did try that =P It gives me too large of a list to look through11:34
holycowthere is a rar candidate visible in there11:34
andreabCan someone help me with GnomeMeeting?11:34
LinuxKnightbut- still don't know why the GNOME preferred apps doesn't show Text Editor tab11:34
LinuxKnightso another battle to fight now heh11:34
holycowSweetestSavage, it's organized alphabetically?11:34
holycowwhat is the difficulty here?11:35
mendyGood question How do i know? I have a writable cd drive11:35
SweetestSavageholycow, yes.. I looked for "rar", it isn't there.11:35
sudo_smartassandreab, what do you need help with?11:35
Stormx2SweetestSavage: You can run a search, but for unrarring, you need unrar-free and unrar-nonfree11:35
mendyI use it all the time with xp11:35
poningruLinuxKnight: irc.mozilla.org #greasemonkey11:35
holycowSweetestSavage, you screwed somethign up11:35
holycowit is there11:35
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moritzHello11:35
SweetestSavageStormx2, alright.. I guess I don't have certain repos set up, one sec11:35
holycowyour repos are not all enabled11:35
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Stormx2SweetestSavage: check your messages from ubotu11:35
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Stormx2Or go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604711:36
sudo_smartasswhere do i go for harddrive help? what do i search for?11:36
Stormx2sudo_smartass: Whats the problem?11:36
holycowsudo_smartass, what do you mean hard drive help?11:36
mendyIt's a good thing your in red otherwise I would lose you altogether11:36
sudo_smartassntfs aren't recognized11:36
sudo_smartasscant mount them11:36
sudo_smartasscant access them11:36
Stormx2!ntfs11:36
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:36
intelikeymendy yes but it may not support dirrect mount writing.   (hates to admit it) i don't have any new enought hardware to keep up with all this.     mendy i'll defer you to some one that has hardware comparable to yours...11:37
holycowi gotta remember ubotu11:37
mendyGreat thank you11:37
LinuxKnighthaha yea it works11:37
SweetestSavageStormx2, weird. When I go to add the nonfree and community maintained ones, and hit OK, it doesn't save the preference.11:37
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holycowsudo_smartass, just to repeat what you will repeate, ntfs writing is not supported, ntfs read is.  the ubotu linkage will be helpfull to you11:37
Stormx2SweetestSavage11:37
LinuxKnightponingru_sleep, ohh cool thx though i figured it out11:37
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Stormx2SweetestSavage: You need run run a "sudo apt-get update"11:38
Stormx2SweetestSavage: Then re-open synaptic11:38
SmerdyKoV_how might I make new partitions for linux in windows?11:38
SweetestSavageStormx2, Oh yeah.. good idea. Stupid me11:38
SmerdyKoV_I'm trying to set up for a bootload system in the future11:38
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holycow*cough*11:38
intelikeymendy  mount i understand.  these new burners that handle read write i'm not up on.  sorry.11:38
Stormx2SmerdyKoV_: "sudo apt-get install gparted", then open gparted11:38
SweetestSavagexD11:38
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holycow:) stormy to the rescue11:38
Stormx2lol11:38
LinuxKnightSmerdyKoV_, you don't necessaryily need to- leave unpartitioned space, and set it up during the linux install11:38
Stormx2>.<11:38
mendyI see so I'm stuck with only burning cd's11:38
SmerdyKoV_oh i see11:39
mendyOk Maybe I'll have a look on the forum if anyone talks about it11:39
SmerdyKoV_I was under the impression it was necessary11:39
intelikeyno.    but you need some one else to help you.11:39
mendyWho? You changed colors!11:39
SweetestSavageholycow, Stormx2, got it working. Thanks guys11:39
mendyIt's still you,though.(?)11:40
LinuxKnightSmerdyKoV_, for dual boot- install windows first, leaving extra unpartitioned space at the *end* of the drive (windows has to be at the beginning)11:40
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Stormx2before installing its a good idea to resize a partition so you have unallocated space. Or you can do it in the installer, but it is a little crummy with NTFS resizing11:40
LinuxKnightSmerdyKoV_, then run the linux installer, and it can format the unpartitioned space for linux11:40
SmerdyKoV_indeed11:40
intelikeyno mendy  it's your irc client picking up on your name.11:40
intelikeysee11:40
intelikeymendy11:40
SmerdyKoV_ah I see11:40
intelikeysee11:40
SmerdyKoV_it sounds so easy on here11:40
LinuxKnightmuch better to format linux partitions in linux installer than in windows (can't do it anyway)11:40
SmerdyKoV_but when I try11:40
SmerdyKoV_my poor computer will be pwnd11:40
mendyHey I never new that:)  You learn something new every day11:40
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sudo_smartassFing right doggie!!! stormx... ur my new best buddy11:41
Stormx2Resize your current partition in windows to leave unallocated space, then from the installer select "Automaticly partition free space". That'll give you ext3 and a swap partition11:41
sudo_smartasshey... does ubuntu have something about fixing the sound card?11:41
Stormx2!sound11:41
ubotusound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:41
Stormx2^_^11:41
LinuxKnightSmerdyKoV_, are you installing both windows and linux from scratch on a new drive, or have windows already and adding linux?11:42
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sudo_smartasswoot woot11:42
SmerdyKoV_I'm planning on adding linux11:42
SmerdyKoV_and I'm trying to repartition IN windows right now11:42
LinuxKnightif adding linux to existing windows drive, follow Stormx2 advice- resize partition using something like PartitionMagic11:43
LinuxKnightoh11:43
Stormx2SmerdyKoV_: Do you want partitionmagic 8?11:43
SmerdyKoV_I dunno11:43
SmerdyKoV_how big is it?11:43
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Stormx2SmerdyKoV_: 5 megs11:43
ROBOdhow to add Gaim at startup?11:43
LinuxKnightwindows can't resize partitions with built in tools11:43
Stormx2SmerdyKoV_: www.dython.net/stormx11:43
LinuxKnightPM is the way to go :)11:43
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SmerdyKoV_man11:43
intelikeysudo_smartass i see you are still not listening ?     did you ever modprobe you sound driver ?11:43
Stormx2SmerdyKoV_: Its slightly pirated but theres nothing better on windows11:43
SmerdyKoV_my windows is pirated too :)11:44
Stormx2haha11:44
SmerdyKoV_makes me feel better about having to use it11:44
Stormx2fight the power!11:44
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SmerdyKoV_word11:44
SmerdyKoV_even thought I OWN a copy of windows11:44
sudo_smartassintel... lol i did it but it gave me a prompt... so then after that i asked u twice what arguements i should have used with modprobe and you never answered11:44
ROBOdhow to add Gaim at startup?11:44
SmerdyKoV_I left my cd key at home and felt the need to fight the power11:44
Stormx2I hate XP >.< Can't stand it11:45
Stormx2ROBOd? I actually have no idea. Check gconf, that may do it11:45
holycowSmerdyKoV_, the weird thing about open source is it totally kills the warez scene ... once you get the hang of it you don't need the windows crap really11:45
intelikeysorry sudo_smartass i got disconnected.11:45
holycowit's a weird realization post fact11:45
sudo_smartassits ok11:45
holycowStormx2, me too11:45
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sudo_smartassill figure it out later... bookmarked the page and when i get to go its on11:45
intelikeysudo_smartass what card is it ?11:45
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sudo_smartassill just ssh back and get this sucker fixed... its an internal ac97 audio11:46
deloshla11:46
sudo_smartassintegrated i mean11:46
deloshola??11:46
intelikeysudo_smartass sudo modprobe snd-ac<tabkey>11:46
Stormx2!es11:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:47
intelikeyassumes bash completion11:47
mendybtw intelikey, I just saw a post that if you sudo nautilus, you can do permission changes and read writes on root files11:47
Stormx2I gotta take a shower. Grandparents arrive soon >.< Ack11:47
sudo_smartasswhen i hit tab it beeps at me and does nothing... when i type it like you said and hit enter it gives me an error11:48
mendyIt worked for me and I was able to click the button for write which I wasn't able to do before , but of course, it still tells me I can't do that/11:48
ShibbyHi dudes. Does someone know if it's possible to download streams via MPlayer?11:48
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sudo_smartassin device manager the sound card is unknown11:48
sudo_smartassdamn im gonna be really late to work lol11:48
mendybecause it's a read only disk11:48
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intelikeymendy yes and you can be back in here asking how come you cant get naut to run as user any more and we will tell you to  sudo chown <yourname> -R $HOME11:49
intelikeysudo_smartass go go go to work11:49
sudo_smartasslol11:49
intelikeyget out of here11:49
sudo_smartasswell fine11:50
intelikeyleave11:50
sudo_smartassmaybe i will11:50
sudo_smartasslol11:50
GoRoDeKwhen logging into ubuntu using ssh a few informations are shown directly, in which file the information are stored (last login, mail count, uname -a)?11:50
intelikey:)11:50
sudo_smartassbut dont think this is over11:50
sudo_smartassur my new go to guy11:50
sudo_smartasslol11:50
mendyOh Oh I guess I was too smart for my own good intelikey11:50
intelikeylol11:50
intelikeyok11:50
sudo_smartassok im outtie everyone... gl with all ur problems11:50
mrkojewhy is bash scripting so fricking wierd?11:51
holycowcompared to what?11:51
intelikeymendy not really just trying to tell you ahead of time that running nautilus as root can change ownership of some config files which, you will need that command ^ to fix11:51
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mrkojeit just seems a little wierd11:52
holycowit's just syntax, the logic rules are programming 10111:52
mendyI see11:52
mrkojeholycow,  exactly...11:52
LinuxKnightwarez who needs warez we have sourceforge :)11:52
mendyOk I'll remeber the command11:52
intelikeymrkoje it's not if you are used to cli bash  then you just type the same commands in the script.11:52
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holycowLinuxKnight, *high five*11:53
holycow:)11:53
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SmerdyKoVcan someone link me to partition magic again11:53
mrkojeintelikey,  i know that.. but its just ... wierd damnit11:53
holycowdude, no warez here plz.11:53
Moodles-SmerdyKoV: the demo?11:53
holycowkthxbye.11:53
SmerdyKoVsomeone just gave me a link for the full11:54
intelikey!WAREZ11:54
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, intelikey11:54
holycowlol thats a first11:54
mrkojeI haven't seen that before either.11:54
holycowSmerdyKoV, i'm not kidding, you will get banned for bringing that up11:54
SmerdyKoVwhat?11:54
holycowthis is a professional / family channel, keep warez talk elsewhere please11:54
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SmerdyKoVsorry, I'm a total n00b11:55
intelikeywhat's localhost's ip ?11:55
Mr-Falkor when I type: free -m in the terminal, I only have 19mb free, is that normal ? my total mem is 50411:55
Stormx2127.0.0.111:55
Mr-Falkorand I got 485 used11:55
Ticho127.x.y.z11:55
Stormx2back, by the way11:55
SmerdyKoVstormx2: can I have that link again11:55
intelikey!warez11:55
ubotuI guess warez is get your warez at 127.0.0.111:55
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FHXHey all11:55
intelikeythere11:55
holycowSmerdyKoV, no worries, just keep it clean and on the up and up :)11:55
mendyYou were right, though about chown for /dev/htc to mendy, without that You can't eject the disk without sudoing11:55
Stormx2intelikey: Stop abusing the bot.11:55
FHXI need some help..I tried in the kubuntu forums but they referred me here, no one there could help11:56
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intelikeyStormx2 that's not abuse11:56
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Stormx2intelikey: Is it going to helo anyone?11:56
Stormx2help*11:56
intelikeyyeah11:56
FHXI'm trying to replace my entire system with only Kubuntu, but what has happened is that it had errors several times and so when I retried it for the fourth time during the Partitions step it only offers me the option to : Manually edit partition tables11:57
FHXCould somebody help me out?11:57
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intelikeylike bot snack does11:57
b0xyubnutu install actually goes fairly quickly on a decent box11:57
b0xyhe he. I just used shitters before and it was hell11:57
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FHX..11:57
Stormx2FHX: I suppose so.11:58
FHXCould somebody please help me?11:58
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FHXStormx2: Could you tell m ehow to fix it, please?11:58
FHXx.x11:58
FHXI'm panicked.11:58
Stormx2FHX: What errors did you get when you last tired to install kubuntu?11:58
Stormx2FHX: Don't be, theres no rush11:58
FHXIt was halfway through, the errors with copying the files11:58
FHXI'm afraid the damage is not fixable11:58
FHXthat's why I'm scared.11:58
Stormx2FHX: Its fine.11:58
intelikeybad blocks11:59
Stormx2FHX: Let me get this straight, you want one kubuntu partition on this HDD, right?11:59
FHXYeah, no windows.11:59
Stormx2And no other partitions?11:59
mendyintelikely, what's a good cd burner program?11:59
FHXWindows wiped, full HDD for Kubuntu. Yep, no othe rparitions11:59
mendyI don't see any on the applications11:59
SeveasFHX, then there's not much you can mess up, you can always start over :)11:59
Stormx2OK, from the "manually edit partitions" bit delete every partition which is there11:59
FHXThat's the problem Seveas, I can't continue11:59
holycowFHX, then youdon'thave a problem at all, you can't do physiical damage to the hd that way11:59
FHXStormx2- Yeah they said that at Kubuntu, but there aren't any partitions showing up12:00
holycowyou can repartition/reformat to your hearts content12:00
FHXThat's the problem.12:00
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intelikeybadblocks on the hdd, or hot cpu,   or ram took a dump,  or loose cable.12:00
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FHXIt doens't recognize the previous installation's partitions, none exist, and it doesn't recognize any space either12:00
Stormx2FHX: no partitions? OK. Select "Automaticly partition free space"12:00
FHXand the only option it allows me is to manually edit partition table12:00
FHXStormx2 Where's that?12:00
FHXx.x I don't have that option12:00
Stormx2FHX: Ack. >.<12:01
j-linuxIs there a way to mount a damaged thumb drive in Ubunut?  I thought that maybe my USB ports would be "sdb1" or something and that maybe I could mount it but how does it work in Ubuntu?12:01
FHXYes, exactly. I'm very scared.12:01
neo369sevas , konsch du deutsch ?12:01
Stormx2FHX: Theres no way to go back up?12:01
kemik!de12:01
ubotuI guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:01
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FHXI have no backup Cds12:01
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Stormx2FHX: If there are no partitions theres no data usable on the disk anyway12:01
j-linuxIt isn't showing up automatically12:02
intelikeyj-linux yes    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/<something>12:02
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holycowFHX, you have data on the hd you need to preserve?12:02
FHXyes12:02
j-linuxintelikey: ok... thanks... I will try that.12:02
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FHXi have the data on the hd12:02
holycowwell stop what you are doing right now :)12:02
FHXHuh?12:02
SmerdyKoVgod I can't wait until I have linux <312:02
FHXBut it's only files12:02
FHXi don't have any cds that will restore everything12:02
holycowfhx just stop12:02
FHXfiles as in data files12:02
holycowFHX, get a second hd, install linux on that12:02
FHX..12:02
FHXYes but what do I do with this one?!12:02
FHXI need otfix it12:02
holycowdude shutup for a goddamned second so i can finish typing12:03
holycowi was going to suggest to consider as is available to you, a usb cradle12:03
intelikeyeasy big boy12:03
FHXa what?12:03
Mr-FalkorFHX, a quick howto: 1) get a hammer 2) use the hammer12:03
holycowplug this hd in and get the data off that way12:03
holycoweither the hd will be recognized and partitions will be there or ...12:03
LinuxKnightFHX, i think he's talking about an external USB enclosure for your drive12:03
holycowyou have wiped out the partition table in which case you need some heavy duty help12:04
FHX..12:04
holycowFHX, what LinuxKnight said, external enclosure is your best option at this point to start thinking about getting data off the hd12:04
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holycowreinstalling is absolutely the wrong way to do it12:04
FHXwhat do you mean? it doesn't even recognize a root12:04
FHXOh crud.12:04
kemikFHX:  you need a recovery program12:04
holycowdude just listen12:05
FHX*listens*12:05
holycoweither a: you get lucky and your partition table is  somehow readable and ubuntu will be able to mount it via usb ... in which case your problem is solved or...12:05
HobbseeFHX: already has the data off his hard drive - it is backed up12:05
holycowb: your partition table is not readable and wiped out which could mean the following12:05
neo369kann hier jemand deutsch ?12:06
holycowb: i) you are completely hosed and the data is gone12:06
intelikeyFHX do i understand that you were in the process of totally repartitioning/reformating the whole hard drive for use with ubuntu ?12:06
Hobbsee!de12:06
ubotuit has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:06
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FHXI can clear the disk i don't need anything on it12:06
holycowb: ii) you need some heavy duty technical help, there is the remote possibility of reconsituting a partition table but that requires lots of expertice and usually money at a service berau12:06
intelikeywhat i thought12:06
ROBOdhow to install TTF fonts?12:06
FHXintelikely - I wanted to use my entire Hd for only kubuntu, yes12:07
holycowFHX, but you just said you need to get data off of it?12:07
FHXI don't.12:07
FHXI need to fix it.12:07
FHXOkay here i'll reexplain my problem12:07
mintonmanhi - I'm trying to get kde going - I used apt-get to grab and install the kubuntu-desktop package, but it still boots up into gnome. There must be a setting somewhere: where?12:07
kemikholycow:  no, not really. recovering data after a format isnt that hard actually12:07
holycowjesus, welcome to my ignore list then12:07
FHXI'm stuck at the partitions setup12:07
intelikeyholycow there was misunderstand there12:07
kemikholycow:  all you need is a good recoveryprogram12:07
FHX..12:07
FHXI'm stuck at the partitions step, in which they only allow me one option: to manually edit tables12:08
Stormx2ROBOd: Theres no "back" option12:08
FHXI don't have any other options, and there are no other previous partitions showing nor any disk space12:08
FHXThat is my problem. I cannot mov eforward12:08
FHXso how do I move back?12:08
Stormx2And theres no "Automaticly partition free space" option?12:08
kemikFHX:  manually edit them :) you need a / and a swap12:08
holycowkemik, true that is possible12:08
FHXNope, no such option12:08
Stormx2Yeah12:08
FHXkemik - How do I manually edit them?12:08
Stormx2just make a ext3 partition and a swap partition12:08
maswanhow do I make an animated screenshot of an xterm?12:08
FHXwhen I enter it, it only gives me 6 options or so.12:08
intelikeyFHX if you can't get linux to partition the disk i might sujest, running badblocks on the drive with write test.12:09
FHXI can't make an ypartitions!!12:09
FHXNo space detected12:09
Stormx2eek12:09
FHXNo partitions detected12:09
kemikthat's worse12:09
FHXYes.12:09
Stormx2>.<12:09
intelikeyyes. so run badblocks on it.12:09
FHXbadblocks?12:09
intelikeya disk testing utility12:09
FHX...12:09
FHXOkay, how do I undo all of this?12:09
FHXWhat is the best way right now to fix this space partitioning mess?12:10
ShibbyHow do I enable the console in MPlayer?12:10
FHXI clearly cannot move forward, which means I have to go back and clean up the entire system.12:10
FHXso that it's brand new.12:10
FHXHow can I do that?12:10
mintonmananyone know how to get ubuntu to offer me kde at login (I installed kubuntu-desktop, but I still get gnome only)12:10
kemikFHX:  seems your drive is a bit fubar12:10
FHX..12:10
kemikFHX:  make sure it's recognized in BIOS?12:10
holycowShibby, what do you mean enable console? you can access mplayer from console any time12:10
FHXNo root recognized.12:11
bimberimintonman: kde should be an option in the Sessions menu of the login screen12:11
holycowyou can script it and do all sorts of neat things :)12:11
kemikFHX:  it's not detected in BIOS? the disk i mean ?12:11
intelikeykemik did you just get to linux ?12:11
FHXIt says: No root recognized12:11
kemikintelikey:  no, but figuring the cable is loose ;)12:11
mintonmanbimberi: thanks - I'll try again!12:11
FHX.. How do I fix this?12:11
kemikintelikey:  it happens that the cable isnt connected ;)12:11
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bimberimintonman: np :)12:11
FHX..it seems nobodhy has a solution. =(12:11
intelikeykemik it may be but you can turn the bios off for the hdd's and linux don't care.12:12
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kemikintelikey:  yeah i know12:12
kemikintelikey:  but checking inside bios is quicker than opening the case ;)12:12
Shibbyholycow, i wanna write a command in MPlayer, thought it should be like i console where i could write it?12:12
kemik(at least, i think so)12:12
FHXHow about if I use a windows os cd?12:12
FHXwill that fix it?12:12
Stormx2s/fix it/make things worse12:13
FHX..12:13
intelikeyFHX i gave you a sulution.  well a direction.   boot the install cd  alt+f2  and type badblocks /dev/hda12:13
kemikintelikey:  actually the reason i used linux to begin with was to circumvent my old bios max 30gb disk size ... some years ago :)12:13
FHXintelikey: I don't understand it12:13
Stormx2follow intelikey's advice12:13
FHXOk12:13
holycowShibby, you can write a bash script to get mplayer to do whatever you want12:13
FHXInstall CD for windows?12:13
Stormx2no12:13
Stormx2ubuntu12:13
kemikoboonto cd12:13
kemik:)12:13
holycowman mplayer will give you a list of commands to play with12:13
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Stormx2kemik: heh i called it you-bunt-oo for a few months12:14
FHXwhen it says boot:12:14
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FHXis that where I type /dev/hda?12:14
Stormx2no12:14
Stormx2"badblocks /dev/hda"12:14
Stormx2without the quotes12:14
FHXCould not find kernel image: badblocks12:14
FHXboot:12:14
FHXthat's what it says12:15
Shibbyholycow, yeah but the command i wanna use is only supposed to fit to one file im playing temporary12:15
Stormx2...12:15
Stormx2you sure you booted the CD and not grub?12:15
FHXwhat i did is i booted with the install cd12:15
intelikeyFHX boot  and after it boots and wants you to select language   use   alt+f212:15
FHXyeah, the install cd.12:15
FHXthe ISo i downloaded and burned12:15
intelikeyyes12:15
Stormx2Listen to intelikey12:15
FHXok12:15
FHXok12:15
holycowShibby, i have no idea what that even means12:15
Stormx2xD holycow12:16
intelikeythen  in the console that alt+f2 puts you in  run badblocks /dev/hda12:16
holycowShibby, it sounds like you want mplayer to do something with a single media file?12:16
FHXok12:16
FHXi did that12:16
Shibbyholycow, right12:16
intelikeyand it finished already ?12:16
FHXnow it says: Busy box v1.00 Debian blah blah...Enter ' help' for a list of buil-incommands..~#12:16
holycowk. then do something like mplayer comand -option -option file.avi ... that is the format you are looking for12:17
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holycowopen up your terminal in apps / accessories and go for it12:17
neo369spricht hier jemand deutsch ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????12:17
intelikeyFHX do you have the live cd ?   if so use it for that.12:17
FHXwhat's the live cd?12:17
FHXI don't think so..12:17
intelikeythat answers that question....12:17
FHXsorry if I sound a complete idiot, i'm entirely new to this.12:18
FHXand doing a rather poor job i' mafraid.12:18
intelikeyoh wait.  you have to load the partitioner befor it can check the drive.12:18
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FHXok so should I try alt+f2 only at the partition step?12:18
intelikeyalt+f1  and select load partitioner12:18
FHXok12:19
intelikeyyes12:19
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FHXi have to run through all the steps again before i can get to the partitioner?12:19
FHXalt+f1 doesn't bring up the menu12:20
intelikeyshould not12:20
intelikeyeeek ?12:20
intelikeyit doesn't ?12:20
FHXwait..12:20
imc_Hey, I'm in Germany running breezy (which I normally run in the states) and I have trouble logging into public wifi networks. I can pull IP addresses but not get out to even see the welcome page. this happened on T-Mobile and WLAM:802 (another commercial service) is this a known issue?12:20
FHXalt+f1 after i've done alt+f2?12:20
FHXor before?12:20
FHXif before, it doesn't work12:20
intelikeyafter :)12:20
FHXif after, it bring sme back to the same screen12:20
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intelikeyyes12:20
FHX"Press enter to activate this console"12:20
FHXpressed enter got that ~# thing appearing12:21
intelikeyyes12:21
imc_Anyone on German wifi?12:21
FHXwhat do I do after the ~#?12:21
FHX??12:21
FHXIt's still not at the partition step yet. x.x12:22
FHXHm..12:22
marcinimc_: hehe what's a difference between German wifi and any other wifi :D ?12:22
intelikeydid it load the partitoner in tty1 ?   (tty1 is where alt+f1 takes you)12:22
win[X] ampits the same all of the world12:22
win[X] amp:D12:22
FHXI can' tload the partitioner12:22
FHXThat's the problem.12:22
FHXalft+f1 takes me nowhere12:22
FHXit takes me to the language choosing menu12:22
FHXo.o12:22
intelikeyyes choose the language12:23
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Effigood morning12:23
imc_marcin, yes, that was what I wanted to know12:23
Effidoes somebody use gmail-notify?12:23
imc_And the answer seems to be, "In Germany it don't work"12:23
imc_:)12:23
FHXok chosen language, now location12:23
FHXdo I choose location?12:24
imc_Seriously, I can pull an IP address but I cannot get a browser to pull the start page, nor can I ping things like yahoo.com12:24
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FHXso basically i go through all the steps until I reach partition step?12:24
intelikeyFHX until you get to the partitioner or can get a menu and go dirrectly to the load the installer/partitioner12:24
imc_I use this same machine in several countries but this is the first time in germany - and the first time I have had problems/12:24
FHXOk12:24
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kemikimc_:  you've got a working DNS server ?12:25
kevinixanyone here had experiences with dialup modems failing to find a carrier despite on windows the same modem finds it fine? i'm using the linuxant hsfmodem 'free' driver on an IBM r51e thinkpad12:25
FHXok12:25
FHXi'm on the : Partition Disks step12:25
FHXnow do I press alt+f2?12:25
intelikeyok now f212:25
imc_kemik - can't see it. I ran ifconfig and see my ip, broadcast and mask12:25
imc_I sign on with DHCP so I assume they take care of it?12:25
FHXstill not found12:25
FHXI typed: ~# badblock /dev/hd/12:26
kevinixi had one successful connection on this modem, but consecutive attempts fail to find a carrier, even dial.12:26
holycowkevinix, yeah, modems are notorious for that sort of this sort of thing.12:26
FHXand it said: /bin/sh: badblock: not found12:26
intelikeyyes ok wait.12:26
kemikimc_:  cat /etc/resolv.conf12:26
holycowkevinix, they can be configured to work but require a good bit of poking around for some modems.  others will work fine.  unfortunately mostly all you can do is google up your particular model.  i know a non answer12:27
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uhgaive got an athlon 64, should i choose opterhon/athlon64 as the processor family in the kernel config although i dont use ubuntu amd64, or would the "normal" ubuntu not work then?12:27
kevinixHolycow cheers12:27
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imc_kemik, right, it's only specifying search local  at 127.0.0.112:27
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intelikeydd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda count=1024 bs=1024    <--- FHX  try that.12:27
fu1crumFHX: badblocks12:27
imc_But that's now, on this wired connection, kemik12:27
fu1crumwith an 'S'12:27
FHXbadblocks not found either12:27
fu1crumand /dev/hda12:28
kemikimc_:  well you should have some nameserver entries aswell. (and not 127.0.0.1 in search..)12:28
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FHXall it says is badblocks not found12:28
marcinimc_: I'll guess but propably it's because your german ISP doesn't give you dns via dhcp properly12:28
FHXhda hd badblock badblocks12:28
FHXtried em all12:28
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intelikeyNOTE TO THE PACKAGERS badblocks should be on the install disk.12:29
intelikeydd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda count=1024 bs=1024    <--- FHX  try that.12:29
imc_kemik and Marcin, righto. Thanks. Any suggestions about ba name server I can specify in resolv.conf which I can use here in Germany>12:29
imc_?12:29
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kemikimc_:  the root-dns servers perhaps ;)12:29
kemikhiih12:29
marcinimc_: try to get info about dns ip's and set them manually12:29
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FHXuh12:29
imc_Doh!12:29
FHXit has a longer message now12:29
imc_Thanks kemik and marcin!12:29
kemikimc_:  i can lend you mine, not sure it'll work tho12:29
intelikeyFHX ?12:30
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marcinimc_: you can test this with ping...12:30
kemikimc_:  see privmsg12:30
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marcinimc_: just send few pings on some IP12:30
FHXUsage: dd [if=FILE]  [of=FILE]  [bx=N]  [count=N]  [skip=N]  [seek=N]  [conv=notrunc|noerror|sync] 12:30
binkshello all12:30
uhgaive got an athlon 64, should i choose opterhon/athlon64 as the processor family in the kernel config although i dont use ubuntu amd64, or would the "normal" ubuntu not work then?12:30
marcinimc_: and then some pings let's say www.google.com and you will know what's going on12:31
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intelikeyok leave out the bs=1024 and try again.12:31
intelikeyFHX ^12:31
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Stormx2uhga: If you use the normal package, don't go for the athlon 64 setup12:31
daschlhey folks :)12:31
FHXnothing happens12:31
Stormx2hey daschl12:31
FHXit literally just enters one line down12:31
uhgaStormx2, but the normal athlon is ok?12:31
binksdoes anyone no how to adjust the inner print diameter for a printable cd12:32
intelikeygood now alt+f112:32
Stormx2uhga: Should be yes12:32
uhgaok thanks :)12:32
FHXokie now i'm at the partition disks step12:32
intelikeyand try to set up a partition FHX    you just blanked the mbr and partition table.12:32
FHXi can't12:32
FHXi don't have any options12:32
FHXonly: Partitioning method: Manually edit partition table12:33
intelikeytell it ok and when it errors out try again12:33
Stormx2FHX: Manually edit then12:33
Stormx2FHX: Make a large ext3 partition mounted on / and a much smaller swap partition mounted on /swap12:33
FHXok so I press enter on the manually edit option and it gives me several options: Configure software RAID, Configure the LVM, Guided partitioning, Help on partitioning, Undo changes gto partitions, Finish partitioning and writre changes to disk12:33
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intelikeyfinsh12:34
intelikeyi know it will error out.12:34
Stormx2wait12:34
Effii have mplayer installed and when I start gmplayer and error is displayed with following message: New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file. Can somebody tell me, what to do?12:34
Stormx2shouldn't he try Guided Partitioning?12:34
intelikeyit will loop and give another shot at it.12:35
FHXguided partitioning doesn't work12:35
Stormx2K12:35
FHXit again brings me to a screen where the only option is to: Manually edi tpartition table12:35
intelikeymanual12:35
FHXwhich spits out those same options again. x.x12:35
Stormx2Manual, then go to "finish"12:35
FHXok12:35
FHXNow it says:12:35
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FHXNo root file system is defined. Please correcgt this from the partitioning menu.12:36
mp3guyhi, is there anyway to make it so that sticky notes always stay on the desktop?12:36
FHX<continue> or <goback>12:36
mendyintelikey, do you know about  gnomebaker?12:36
mendyIt deals with rw disks12:36
intelikeyonly used it one time mendy i'm cli mostly12:36
mendyI am using it now and it does all the read writing12:36
holycowEffi, right click on mplayer window go to fonts and select a new default font.  it cannot find the default font for some reason .. i'm not sure why maybe bad packaging12:36
win[X] amphow to update codec?12:36
intelikeyxcdroast does too mendy12:36
intelikeyand k3b12:37
daschlEffi: and you are able to run mplayer successfully out of the shell?12:37
Effiyes daschl12:37
mendyalright thanks I going now See you all later12:37
Effithanks holycow, i try it12:37
mp3guyis there anyway to make it so that sticky notes always stay on the desktop?12:37
FHX..12:38
Effiholycow, where can i find fonts?12:38
daschle12:38
daschlEffi which fonts do you need exactly?12:38
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intelikeyFHX this may sound silly but push the power button and let the disk spin down then restart  and see if you can install12:38
FHXI have a restart button..i'll push that12:39
Effidaschl, mplayer says subfont.ttf12:39
holycowEffi, in your home dir in a folder labeled .fonts12:39
intelikeyFHX it's not the same as a power down.12:39
holycowthe toolkit used for gmplayer should show .folders by default as nautilus hides them12:39
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FHXok12:40
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Effiholycow, i dont have such a folder12:40
FHXuh12:40
FHXit effectively turns my ocmputer off12:40
daschleffi i think i have a solution for you12:40
FHXHm. *turns it bakc on*12:40
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holycowEffi, pardon me, i setup mine to the following: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraBd.ttf12:40
holycowyou can choose whatever is available to you12:40
daschleffi, look here: http://tuxrip.free.fr/installation_en.html -- and search for the words "symbolic link"12:41
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intelikeyi still say it sounds like a hardware problem....  and badblocks should be on every install disk  as well as memtest12:41
Effiok thanks holycow and daschl12:42
FHXsigh.12:42
intelikeybut they obviously are not.12:42
daschlkein problem effi ;)12:42
FHXwell how do I fix this?12:42
holycowno worries12:42
FHX=/ Afraid I am.12:42
Effihe he,...danke dir daschl ;)12:42
eth42I have a weird problem: gdm restarts when I type the first letter of my password. what could that be??12:42
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FHXTotally freaked. After this successful installation i won't be trying naything new for a while.12:42
FHXx.x12:42
FHXproviding i evne manage to fix this12:42
holycoweth42, does it restart if you don't start typing?12:42
Effimein schlechtes Englisch ist wohl verrterisch :D @ daschl`aut ?12:43
eth42holycow: no, only with the first type12:43
daschl`auteffi nein, man siehts an deiner adresse .t-ipconnect.de12:43
wermutI have a question regarding the .Xauthority file.12:43
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holycoweth42, the only thing that i can think of is x is crashing, have you checked your logs?12:43
wermutHow can I allow the X server to be started on other virtual terminals?12:43
FHXsigh.12:43
FHXIs there a way to fix this?12:44
eth42holycow: yes but I don't see anything serious12:44
wermutGdm replaces the file every time it starts.12:44
FHXClearly installation wont move forward, so how do I clean my entire disk and start from scratch?12:44
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eth42holycow: and now the login worked without anything changed... wtf???!12:44
kemikFHX:  sounds like your disk is broken12:44
holycoweth42, have you tried just a plain vesa driver just as a stab in the dark? i've never heard of this12:44
FHX.12:44
intelikeyFHX  the dd command cleared the disk  as well as anything i know of can.12:44
FHX=( Please tell me there is a way to fix it12:45
holycoweth42, well talking to us fixes most things magically12:45
holycow*cough*12:45
holycow:)12:45
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eth42holycow: :-) I suppose it's not fixed yet12:45
viv`dis there a way to speed up my cd writers speed? its a 40x burner, but its only getting 20x speed, and the system claims its DMA is not enable, and when i enalbe with hdparm, one says its on, one off, and it stays at half speed12:45
eth42holycow: yesterday gdm wouldn't start12:45
intelikeyFHX what have you got there now ?12:45
FHXLanguage screen12:45
intelikeyany progress ?12:45
johnnybezakhye guys i just installed scribus on ubuntu, i don't use kde or any other qt apps, what packages should i install to "de-uglify" scribus?12:46
eth42holycow: only the wait-mouse pointer, the interface didn't come up until I removed the DPMS option... ????12:46
holycoweth42, i don't have the faintest clue except to say, try a different driver12:46
FHXHm. *runs through steps agian*12:46
eth42holycow: yeah, probably..12:46
intelikeywell go on with the install just like you thought it would work this time and i'll watch12:46
FHXok12:46
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eth42holycow: bit like windows :-)12:46
win[X] amphow 2 use bluetooth in ubuntu12:47
holycoweth42, please don't say such cruel things12:47
win[X] ampi  just in dmesg12:47
holycow:)12:47
eth42holycow: hehe12:47
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FHXoMG12:47
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intelikey?12:48
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FHXI HAVE NEW OPTIONS12:48
FHX*glomps intelikey*12:48
FHXOk ok now I have these: Erase entire disk ... , Erase entire disk and use LVM..., Manually edit partition table12:48
intelikeymanual12:48
FHXOkie12:49
FHXHzah!12:49
FHXNew things listed: IDE1 master (hda) - 40GB , #1 Primary 39.3GB et3, #5 logical 764.9MB Swap12:49
intelikeydelete them both12:49
irvin!pastebin12:50
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:50
intelikeyFHX delete them12:50
FHXOk12:50
FHXall of them?12:50
intelikeyyou don't want damaged partitions12:50
FHXall three?12:50
intelikeyyes12:50
FHXi can't delete the IDE1 master12:51
intelikeyno that is the drive not a parition12:51
FHXOh ok12:51
FHXthe rest deleted ^^12:51
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FHXdo I select <goback>?12:51
intelikeyyes12:51
intelikeyno12:51
intelikeyno12:51
intelikeyno12:51
intelikeyoops12:51
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FHXer..12:52
Effiis there a partitioner resizer available for linux?12:52
FHXum.12:52
intelikeyit's ok12:52
FHXshould I delete them again?12:52
apokryphosintelikey: pelase don't flood12:52
mweEffi: parted12:52
intelikeyyes12:52
FHXthen i go to: Finish partitioning and write changes to disk?12:52
intelikeyit's ok12:52
rosendahl_mm can anyone tell me how I can uninstall a program installed in Wine ?12:52
intelikeyno12:52
kevinixi have a vast number of "Unknown Device: ..." when running lspci on this laptop. is there any way to update my pci ID info  so as to be more useful?12:52
rosendahl_rosendahl_, maybe even uninstall Wine aswell12:52
intelikeyFHX12:53
rosendahl_bleh12:53
Effimwe, ok, thanks. I have the problem, that i think, 5 GB is to small for my / partition12:53
intelikeywhere you at right now.12:53
intelikey?12:53
FHXmhm12:53
FHXoh12:53
FHXI just deleted all partitions12:53
FHXi'm on tha tscreen12:53
intelikeyok wait12:53
FHXwhere i can: undo changes to partitions, finish partitioning and write changes to disk, or <goback>, but if I select goback my changes aren't saved12:53
mweEffi: yeah. depending on how much you install it might be to little. 5G is enough for a lot though12:53
intelikeyselect the drive and creat one partition  (primary  8 g)12:54
intelikeyfhx12:54
FHXok12:54
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FHXselect the IDE or pri/log?12:54
intelikeyyes12:54
intelikeyide12:54
christianphi all12:54
FHXuh all it did was to create an empty partition table12:55
FHX?12:55
kevinixalso is there _any_ equivalent to packages.debian.org for ubuntu? i know the package i need to get online on another ubuntu machine, but need to download it on another machine..12:55
intelikeyok not select the primarry and add a 8-10G partition12:55
intelikeynow12:55
FHXcreate ne wpartition or automatically partition for free space?12:55
intelikeycreat new12:56
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FHXHm..8-10g? not the full?12:56
intelikeynot full12:56
FHXok i'll do 912:56
intelikeyok12:56
Effihow can i remove a zombie prozess?12:56
FHXType for new partition primary or logical?12:57
intelikeyprimary12:57
FHXok12:57
FHXlocation: beginning or end?12:57
intelikeybiginning12:57
FHXokie done ^^12:57
intelikeyuse as /12:57
intelikeyboatable12:58
intelikeyformat12:58
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FHX?12:58
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intelikeyselect that partition and choose all those options FHX12:58
hungerWhat do I need to do to boot from a LVM root partition? /boot is on a non-LVM partition.12:59
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intelikeythere is a method to the madness,12:59
FHXI'm a bit confused12:59
FHXx.x sorry12:59
FHXhow do I choose those options?12:59
tRSScan someone quickly remind me how to install a debian package (.deb file) from shell? is it dpkg -i package.deb?01:00
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yatesyyes01:00
FHXOk i'll type what the screen says:01:00
intelikeyunless the partitioner has changed greatly from hoary FHX you should see options to the partitions you select.01:00
FHXUse as: Ext3 journaling file system01:00
intelikeyyes01:01
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intelikeymount as  /01:01
intelikey?01:01
ossieyo ho ho01:01
FHXMount point: / , Mount options: defaults, Label: / Reserved blocks: 5%, Typical usage: standard, Bootable flag: off, size: 9GB01:01
FHXthat's what it says at the moment01:01
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intelikeyok and no option to format... hmmm ok tell it you are finished with that one and you can move on01:02
FHXok " Done setting up the partition" ?01:02
FHXOkies01:03
intelikeyFHX first answer one question,  how much mem in that box ?01:03
FHX80gb01:03
FHXno wait01:03
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FHXno idea01:03
LinuxKnightpeace out bbl01:03
FHXum. x.x01:03
FHX*is embarassed* I forgot..01:03
intelikeymight better make a swap at the end of the drive of about 256m01:03
FHXok01:04
FHXso create another partition?01:04
intelikeyyes01:04
intelikeyswap01:04
FHXprimary/logical?01:04
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intelikeylog01:04
FHXend?01:04
intelikeyyeah01:04
FHXOkie01:05
FHXoops, it says 255mb by accident..01:05
intelikeyfinish01:05
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FHXokie01:05
ossieguys , im trying to make a simple script for ubuntu but i find it doesnt run with the right permission to move files, but i dont know how to set the permisions01:05
foxpauldoes anyone here run ubuntu on an iiyama 19" crt monitor?01:05
foxpauli'm using it, but the flicker is horrid01:05
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FHXwait a second01:06
mweossie: run it with sudo then01:06
FHXmy first partition has disappeared!01:06
intelikeyFHX if it is formatting the partitons use  alt+f3  and watch for errors.01:06
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intelikey?01:06
FHXno it's back to the main screen01:06
FHXand it says: IDE 1 -40GB, pri/log 39.8GB, #5 logical 255.0MB @ ext301:06
FHXit doesn't list the first partition of 9gb01:06
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FHXand I think there's 40gb of space in this computer01:07
saxmachineBuonasera01:07
saxmachineanzi buongiorno01:07
saxmachine#ubuntu-it01:07
intelikeyit's borked.01:07
saxmachineops01:07
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FHXshould I try it again?01:07
FHXdelete all partitions?01:08
FHXand then re-create?01:08
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intelikeyyeah that obviously wont work like it is.01:08
FHXhm..01:08
FHXhang on, won't kubuntu partition fo rme?01:08
FHXit partitioned fine the last time, i only encountered errors when copying files01:08
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foxpauli think i need to get my monitor running at 100hz to stop it flickering01:09
foxpaulany ideas how i can do that?01:09
emphetamine@roulette01:09
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intelikeytry it but the copying errors and the parition errors are both hardware problems there FHX01:09
FHXoh..01:09
FHXi thought maybe it was a disc-burning mistake i mdae01:10
FHXso i burned a new ocpy of the disk01:10
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FHXi'll try it01:10
FHXokay so now i've deleted all partitions01:10
intelikeytry it.  it wont cost you anything but time.01:10
emphetamineSeveas: say banik pyco01:10
dukebodyI have a problem with my FTP server and my router. When i try to connect to my ftp server using my public ip adress i access to the router firmware-update utility instead of my ftp server. Should I allow other port to my ftp server?01:10
FHXI select: "finish partitioning and write changes to disk"01:10
FHXyeah, 8pm here. plenty of time.01:10
intelikeyyes01:10
FHX=P01:10
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FHXum.01:10
FHXError01:10
FHXNo root file system is defined01:10
FHXplease correct this from the partitioning menu01:11
intelikeyyes01:11
FHXHm..01:11
FHXhow do I correct it?01:11
FHXx.x01:11
intelikeymake partitions again.   and hope they will write to disk this time...01:12
FHXok, the same partitions?01:12
intelikeyyeah01:12
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FHXok they're both listed now01:13
FHXbut i didn't create tables on the IDE01:13
FHXshould I have?01:13
intelikeyno just go on01:13
FHXi only just remembered about that step..x.x01:13
FHXok01:13
FHXO.O It's working!01:13
intelikeyit should still be there01:13
FHXOh.01:13
FHXno.01:13
FHXit doesn't work.01:13
FHXsame error01:14
FHXhow do I define root file system?01:14
intelikeystop right there and check the logs in  tty3  and tty401:14
FHXhow?01:14
FHXalt+f2?01:14
intelikeyyeah f301:15
intelikeyalt+f301:15
FHXok01:15
intelikeyalt+f401:15
FHXReading all physical volumes. This may take a while01:15
FHXHuh?01:15
FHXF4?01:15
jendaalt+ctrl, no?01:15
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FHXUm.01:15
FHXI did alt+f301:15
intelikeyjenda no01:15
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jendaok01:15
intelikeyyes both ttys fhx01:15
FHXok01:15
FHXso i do alt+f4 after alt+f301:16
aidehuaWhen installing, after my first boot into Ubuntu (Breezy), I forgot to have the CD in the drive, so I rebooted again with the disk in the drive, but the first-boot-install stuff didn't run.01:16
intelikeyyes01:16
FHXOk. I jus twait?01:16
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aidehuaIs "aptitude install ubuntu-deskotop" enough to get me going?01:16
intelikeyjenda the ctrl key is only required to get you out of X01:16
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intelikeyFHX what error messages are there ?01:16
FHXum..none01:17
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FHXit's not doing anything01:17
kane77hello everybody...01:17
intelikeyit should have the reason the partitioner failed in one of those ttys01:17
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FHXit just says: Dec 27 19:51:57 main-menu[4872] : DEBUG: virtual package harddrive-detection01:17
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FHXthats for the alt+f401:18
intelikeyok and the other says ?01:18
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FHXshould I hit alt+f3 again ?01:18
FHXto go back to that one?01:18
intelikeyyes01:18
FHXit still says: Reading all physical volumes. This may tkae a while..01:18
kane77Does anyone know of some program that would ping multiple ip's?? Or some tool to find out who is online on LAN?01:18
intelikeyno E; some reason ....01:18
intelikeyFHX lets try one time to partition by hand.01:19
FHXokay01:19
intelikeyalt+f201:19
intelikeyenter01:19
FHXyep01:19
FHX~#01:19
intelikeyfdisk /dev/hda01:19
daschl`auti want to install the daily build but im afraid to do so ;)01:19
FHXcommand (m fo rhelp):01:20
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intelikeym01:20
intelikeylol01:20
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aidehuakane77: ping your network's broadcast address01:20
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FHXokie it listed a whole bunch of alphabets and what each one stands for01:20
FHXthen it says: command (m for help):01:20
kane77aidehua: ??? how to do it??01:20
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intelikeyok use the p to print the table   is there any partitions ?01:20
FHXhow do I tell?01:21
intelikeyp01:21
FHXI'll type it all out01:21
intelikeyno01:21
FHXUnder Device boot?01:21
FHXit says: /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, /dev/hda501:21
aidehuakane77: if your netmask is 255.255.255.0, then change an IP address on your network to have .255 at the end, and ping that.  (e.g. ping 192.168.1.255)01:21
intelikeyok q01:22
FHXstart 1, 4834, 483501:22
FHX~#01:22
kane77aidehua: thx I'll try it...01:22
intelikeymke2fs -cfj /dev/hda101:22
FHXmke2fs: invalid fragment size - j01:23
kane77aidehua: what does DUP! mean?01:23
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intelikeymke2fs -cf -j /dev/hda101:23
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intelikeymke2fs -c -f -j /dev/hda101:23
intelikeyeven01:23
aidehuakane77: it means that for every "ping" you send out, you are getting reply ("DUPlicates").01:23
FHXinvalid fragment size for all01:23
intelikeyok leave the -f out01:24
aidehuakane77: I meant "you are getting 'more than 1' reply".  sorry01:24
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hungerFHX: WHy aren't you using mkfs.ext3?01:24
FHXwhoa01:24
FHXCreating journal (32768)01:24
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intelikeyhunger cause the install disk only has busybox01:24
hungerintelikey: Oh...01:24
FHXThis file system will be automatically checked every 29 mounts or 180 days whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.01:24
FHX~#01:25
intelikeymkswap /dev/hda501:25
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hungerAnyone managed to install ubuntu on a LVM root?01:25
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FHXsettinpg up swap space version 1, size = 254976000 bytes01:25
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aidehuaYikes: looks like the "ubuntu-desktop" virtual package installs *oodles* more than the normal post-installation stuff installs.01:25
intelikeyFHX back to tty101:25
FHXalt+f3?01:26
MoodlesI know my monitor supports 1280x***, but Gnome only gives me 1024x768 as higher resolution.. how can I get the resolutions above 1024x768?01:26
intelikeyf1    continue01:26
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FHXok01:26
daschl`autMoodles: edit your xorg config01:26
kane77aidehua: does that mean that the ip is offline? cause I get a lot of those and I don't think that there is so much people online...01:26
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FHXbrings me back to that screen that lists my partitions01:26
intelikeyFHX the tty number is the same as the function key number  fyi01:26
mwe!resolution01:26
ubotuwell, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:26
intelikeyyes skip it01:27
FHXah okay, i see01:27
aidehuakane77: it means that those people are *online*, because they are sending responses to your ping.01:27
intelikeymove down to the install the base system.01:27
mweMoodles: and what ubotu just said01:27
hungerkane77: It means that two computers reply to the same request (== probably have the same IP).01:27
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FHXso i hit <goback>?01:27
intelikeyyes01:27
FHXok01:27
ajeetHello, I just installed Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos to my Home directory with WINE, but when I goto play it I get a "retry, cannot detect CD-ROM drive, please insert CD and try again", why is this?01:27
hungerkane77: Or that you are sending a broadcast to all machines.01:27
FHXselected install base system01:27
intelikeyyes01:27
FHXit brings me back to the screen that lists my partitons01:27
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mweajeet: I don't know. with some games you need a no-cd patch in order to play them in wine01:28
alexandreHi there! I have a freshly installed Ubuntu box and I'd like to be able to compile small C and C++ programs. The thing is, "cc" and "g++" don't seem to be installed by default. So I went to Synaptic and installed g++, which in turn installed g++-4.0, gcc, gcc-4.0 and libstdc++6... But I still can't compile a simple Hello World because it can't find stdio.h. Am I missing something here? Do I need to install another package to get my inc01:28
alexandreludes?01:28
Daveyalexandre: seach in synaptic for build01:29
Daveyyou're looking for something like build-essentials01:29
kyncaniajeet: and i think war3 roc works with a no-cd patch01:29
hungeralexandre: Install build-essentials (might be spellt differently though;-)01:29
ajeetmwe: any ideas where to find such a patch?01:29
mwealexandre: install build-essential01:29
mweajeet: gamecopyworld.com maybe01:29
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intelikeyyou are not selecting the primary partition as /  or something.... FHX   i'm bout out of help for the day.... try the partitioner again but only select the main one and options then finish01:29
ajeetcheers01:29
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FHXwait01:29
niklashI have something using CPU cycles and not showing up in top, atop or gnome-system-monitor. How can I find out what it is?01:29
ColonelKernelwhat do I need to do to be able to apt-get install rcconf?01:29
FHXtry partitioner again?01:29
FHXx.x you're leaving..01:30
FHXhm. when will you be back?01:30
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niklashAcording to top, I have about 20% user cpu time, but no process uses more than 1-2%01:30
intelikeyyes but only the primary .  don't delete it. just select it as root /  and then select finish partitioning01:30
FHXhow?01:30
ColonelKernelI gotta add multiverse and universe01:30
FHXas in how do i select it as root /?01:30
ubuntuHey all.01:31
intelikeyuse as /01:31
FHXmount point: /home01:31
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intelikeyno /01:31
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intelikeynot home01:31
FHXhow do I change it to /?01:31
intelikeyyes01:31
FHXhow?01:31
FHXit won't le tme change it01:31
ubuntuI installed kubuntu just now and I think I borked the gui trying to fix the resolution problem.01:31
intelikeyit will highlight it and enter01:31
FHXok i've changed it01:32
FHXcan i go back to base installs now?01:32
intelikeyfinish partitioning01:32
FHXok01:32
FHXhang on01:32
FHXmy second partition is /usr01:32
FHXis that correct?01:32
intelikeyok01:32
FHXok i'll selecgt finish partitioning now..01:32
funkyHat:S01:32
funkyHatSeems a very complicated setup01:32
hungerfunkyHat: Who's?01:32
ubuntuI'm running off a live cd. Can anyone help me get Xorg running again without having me re-install the system?01:33
FHXit says I dont have a swap space01:33
funkyHathunger, FHX's01:33
FHXdo i change the 255mb to swap?01:33
apokryphoswhy a partition for /usr? Generally / and /home are good; maybe a /boot at times too01:33
FHXfunkyHat don't worry i have a screwed ysstem01:33
FHXyours will be a lot easier01:33
mweubuntu: didn't you back up xorg.conf before editing it?01:33
intelikeyfunkyHat yes something is borked there  we had to dd zero the mbr for one thing...01:33
hungerfunkyHat: I have way more partitions :-)01:33
intelikeystill not sure it will install.01:33
alexandreDavey, hunger, mwe> All right! I can compile now. I'm a bit surprised, though, because the description says it's for building debian packages and it installs kernel headers. Is this normal?01:33
funkyHatintelikey, FHX, right... still don't see why he needs a separate /usr though ;)01:33
FHXwithout a swap or with?01:33
ubuntumwe I think so. the instructions I used had me sudo cp xorg.conf or something like that.01:34
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FHX..01:34
FHXgah hang on01:34
hungeralexandre: Yes.01:34
FHXso i keep everything as is and not have a swap?01:34
mweubuntu: yeah. then copy back the backup01:34
intelikeyfunkyHat i just let that slide...... to tired to mess with it if it works.01:34
hungeralexandre: The kernel headers are integrated into the standard libc headers.01:34
mweubuntu: and try again01:34
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funkyHathunger, lol, why though? ( have about 10 partitions, but they aren't like that...)01:34
FHX..01:34
eth42where is the locale setting stored? (I think I chose en_GB during setup but now it is en_US. where can I change this?)01:34
funkyHatintelikey, good poitn01:34
funkyHat*point01:34
FHXum.01:34
mjreth42, /etc/environment01:34
hungeralexandre: And building debian packages does not differ at all from building "normal" apps.01:35
FHXso I don't choose their option to return to partitioningmenu01:35
eth42mjr, thanks01:35
hungerfunkyHat: Because I need to:-)01:35
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FHXOkay now it says:01:35
alexandrehunger: OK, thanks a lot!01:35
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funkyHathunger, hehe, fair enough then01:35
FHXThe attempt ot mount a file esystem at /usr failed. You may resume partitioning from the partitioning menu. Do you want to resume partitioning?01:35
intelikeyFHX the extended was supposed to be swap.01:35
FHXok01:35
intelikeyand you made it usr01:35
hungerfunkyHat: I want some data encrypted for privacy reasons and others unencrypted for speed reasons, etc.01:35
intelikeyundo taht.01:35
intelikeythat01:35
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FHXok how do I make it swap?01:36
FHXit doesn't have it under the options01:36
funkyHatuse as: select swap01:36
FHXokay01:36
intelikeyit is just select it and use as swap   in place of use as /usr01:36
funkyHatit's not a filesystem, it's a use as: option01:36
mwejust read what the choises say. it's pretty obvious what to do if you read it01:37
FHXokay now it's installing the base system01:37
FHXI pray to God it works01:37
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aidehua!pray01:37
ubotuI don't know, aidehua01:37
ROBOdany of you got Mathematica 5 on Ubuntu?01:37
aidehuaubotu: I share your beliefs01:37
ubotuaidehua: I don't know01:37
eth42my stickynotes applet often crashes when Gnome is started. does anyone else have this problem?01:37
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aidehuaubotu: *exactly*01:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, aidehua01:37
rosendahl_how can I bring up the GUI in Wine ?01:37
funkyHatmwe, I can understand the fact that swap doesn't have a filespace being confusing though01:37
intelikeyFHX good luck with it. i leave you in the capable hands of these fine people.01:37
funkyHatack *filesystem01:37
mwefunkyHat: yeah maybe01:38
FHXintelikey okay thanks so much for your help, i'll hang around these forums a bit more01:38
intelikeywelcome/01:38
FHXI appreciate it very much, hopefully whenever I next meet you I'll have good news01:38
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ubuntuSo how do I make sure two files match from the cli?01:39
funkyHathunger, which filesystems can use encryption?01:39
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funkyHatubuntu, use md5sum on both of them01:39
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ubuntuthank you sir.01:39
hungerfunkyHat: All of them.01:40
FHXubotu: wow, you are very polite. "sir"01:40
ubotuFHX: what are you talking about?01:40
ubuntubeautiful. Thank you for the help.01:40
hungerfunkyHat: Devicemapper handles the encryption "under" the filesystem.01:40
ubuntugnight.01:40
FHXubotu: i have a messed up hard drive and have been having horrible errors01:40
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, FHX01:40
funkyHathunger, oh... cool. lol01:40
FHXubotuOH01:40
FHXsorry01:41
FHXi was referring to Ubuntu01:41
FHXapologies.01:41
funkyHat!ubotu01:41
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:41
FHXo.o01:41
FHXit's a bot?!01:41
FHXO.O01:41
FHXWow okay. XD01:41
apokryphosslightly misleading factoid. It's ok to play with him in #debian-bots 8)01:41
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FHXXD i didn't know it was a bot01:42
funkyHatubotu smokes way too much crack to be regarded as a bot though01:42
ubotufunkyHat: What?01:42
funkyHat:D01:42
FHXhaha. That'very amusing.01:42
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BuFFhow could i view xp files in ubuntu ? i heard there is such a program wine but i dunno how to use it01:42
BuFFhelp01:42
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funkyHatBuFF, what are you trying to do exactly?01:43
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Tichohunger: what would that accomplish for you ?01:43
BuFFi want to view word files01:43
slownixehlo01:43
Tichohunger: do you need API docs for all the libraries ?01:43
hungerTicho: Having lots of docs available when offline.01:43
funkyHatBuFF, you can do that with Open Office01:43
BuFFhow01:44
slownixIs there a ubuntu 64 yet01:44
hungerTicho: It was just easier to install everything then going ofer the huge list;-)01:44
BuFFi have now permissions to view 'em01:44
funkyHatBuFF, it should be installed already, just opening the word file shoulw work01:44
rosendahl_#wineHQ01:44
funkyHatslownix, yes, always has been01:44
FHXis there a way for me to save this entier conversation?01:44
funkyHat*should01:44
Tichohunger: well, if you can spare the disk space, why not? :>01:44
slownixfunkyHat: for amd 64 ? awsome do you know if they solved that mutliarch issue /01:45
FHXanybody know?01:45
TichoFHX: that depends on the irc client you're using right now01:45
FHXmIRC01:45
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FHXi downloaded specially to get help01:45
FHXXDD01:45
FHXtook me a while to figure out how to get here01:45
funkyHatslownix, which issue was that? I don't have any a64 hardware, I just know there is a 64 bit version ;)01:45
Tichoi cannot help you with that, i don't know how to use it01:45
FHXoh.01:45
FHXokay01:45
slownixfunkyHat: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id272321 just read like first few lines.01:45
hungerTicho: Usually I really like having all the stuff with me... but currently I need to move the /usr partition and copying all that stuff takes AGES;-)01:45
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slownixfunkyHat: the first few tops lines01:46
funkyHatFHX, probably highlight it all, press ctrl+c and then paste it in notepad or something01:46
FHXi can't highligh tit all01:46
FHXit gets deselected the moment i unclick01:46
slownixfunkyHat: it can put it in shorter words then I can01:46
FHXand everyone keeps talking..01:46
FHXso it's difficult to highlight01:46
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gudigi01:47
gudianyone can help me to get my ati to work with big desktop mode ?01:47
funkyHatslownix, I have no idea01:47
slownixfunkyHat: same here lol01:47
gudiits working but i want to have the gnomepanel on my second screen not the lcd of the laptop01:47
wizardjamesok, fresh install just trying to get things all working..   got around to trying to setup dhcp..  but when i go to restart it. it says fail, fail.       somewere i am missing the settings up01:47
funkyHatslownix, I think all the same packages are available for the AMD64 version though... and I'm pretty sure you can still run 32bit binaries on it01:48
slownixk01:48
funkyHatactually... yeah you can, because lots of people use the 32bit firefox because of the flash plugin (stoopid macromedia/adobe)01:48
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slownixfunkyHat: I just cant wait to try out a dual core opteron 64bit on it :) nix is gona scream01:48
funkyHatnice01:49
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Ce_Dreakuhello guys, can anybody tell me how to upload on ftp or tell me the name of a good program to do this, I mean access the  ftp account of my website01:49
slownixfunkyHat thanxs for the help01:49
gudiCe_Dreaku, gftp01:49
funkyHatnp01:49
Ce_Dreakuthanks gudi I'll look it up01:49
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funkyHatCan anyone help me with creating a virtual device in .asoundrc?01:50
Ce_DreakuWhere do I find GFTP?01:50
yanchenghelo guys :) i try to burn my DVD through gnomebaker, but it said that i am not root. hence, i need to sudo everytime i need to burn my DVD, any solution? i am using hoary :D01:50
gudiCe_Dreaku, look on freshmeat.org01:50
funkyHatCe_Dreaku, system > administration > synaptic01:51
Ce_Dreakuit isn't in synaptic01:51
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funkyHat!tell Ce_Dreaku about repos01:51
uber_spacedI have a strange network problem01:51
uber_spacedwhen I run dhclient manually, my second interface, eth1 gets 'unconfigured'01:52
FHXI need help01:52
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funkyHatFHX, any progress?01:52
FHX"Copying packages to the hard disk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the target /var filesystem, or your CD drive may be having problems reading packages from the CD. Cleaning the CD drive or burnig the CD at a lower speed may help.01:53
FHXfunkyHat: excellent progress today, but i'm still having this error  from earlier installations. Any advise?01:53
FHXx.x01:53
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funkyHatFHX, how big is your / partition?01:53
FHX9GB01:54
funkyHatnot that then01:54
uber_spacedhow do I restart my network connections on ubuntu?01:54
uber_spacedthe redhat equiv would be:01:54
funkyHatFHX, how did you get your install CD?01:54
jhaigJust trying to install Ubuntu (from an official CD).  First part went OK, but now it has rebooted and I have "crc error", " -- System halted".  Anyone have any idea why?01:55
uber_spaced/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart01:55
FHXyeah I've been having this error even when I used all 40gb to install Kubuntu01:55
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funkyHatuber_spaced, look in /etc/init.d/01:55
uber_spacedfunkyHat, thanks.01:55
wizardjameswere do i find what ports i need  on my router  opend for apache to work?01:55
bshumateuber_spaced: /etc/init.d/networking restart01:56
jhaigwizardjames: 80 for normal http, and (I think) 443 for https.  Look in /etc/services for a full list.01:56
uber_spacedbshumate, thanks; that did it.  now if I can find a way to get dhclient to execute my firewall script on refresh, that would be great.01:56
funkyHatFHX, so you're getting the same error when using completely different discs to install?01:56
FHXer.01:56
FHXno01:56
FHXsame disk01:56
FHXonly now i only gave it 9gb, not all 40gb01:57
funkyHatFHX, I mean the CD01:57
FHXoh yeah. new cd01:57
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FHXi burned it real slow this time01:57
FHX1x01:57
FHXXD01:57
funkyHatouch01:57
FHXto make sure that it was not the cd problem01:57
funkyHatFHX, order some CDs from shipit.ubuntu.com01:58
FHXas you can see, i've been at it all day. XD01:58
jhaigNo one have any suggestion as to why my machine has halted when rebooting during the install?  It freezes after "Uncompressing Linux..." with a "crc error".01:58
FHXi don't think it's the cd..01:58
FHXis it necessary for the packages to be copied?01:58
funkyHatFHX, as a just in case ;), and we'll carry on trying working on it now01:58
FHXHehe okie01:58
FHXi'll look up the cd ordering after i get my computer sorted out01:58
FHX:P01:58
funkyHatlol01:58
FHXcan I survive without it copying all the packages?01:59
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funkyHatFHX, it depends... I can't remember the order, have you got past grub installation?01:59
bSONhi01:59
funkyHathi bSON01:59
FHXed API docs for all the libraries ?01:59
FHX<hunger> Ticho: Having lots of docs available when offline.01:59
FHX<funkyHat> BuFF, you can do that with Open Office01:59
FHX<BuFF> how01:59
FHX<slownix> Is there a ubuntu 64 yet01:59
FHX<hunger> Ticho: It was just easier to install everything then going ofer the huge list;-)01:59
FHXed API docs for all the libraries ?01:59
FHX<hunger> Ticho: Having lots of docs available when offline.01:59
FHX<funkyHat> BuFF, you can do that with Open Office01:59
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FHX<BuFF> how01:59
FHX<slownix> Is there a ubuntu 64 yet01:59
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wizardjamesjhaig,  since ubuntu is safe from attacks from the web..   unlike windows.   i can set my router to dmz the port for this computer?  open everything up?01:59
bSONdoes the fluendo mp3 plugin mean that we will have mp3 out of the box with the next ubuntu releases?01:59
uber_spacedha01:59
Tichosomeone's experimenting with copy/paste :>01:59
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apokryphosFHX: don't flood; use a pastebin service.02:00
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FHXsorry02:00
funkyHatwizardjames, you will be a lot safer using ubuntu on a DMZ than using windows02:00
FHXi was trying to post a link02:00
funkyHatFHX, oops, lol02:00
FHXfunkyHat: which is the grub installation?02:01
FHXyeah, i got booted. *rubs sore ass* XD02:01
apokryphos=)02:01
funkyHatFHX, the bit about the boot loader, it'll ask you about windows XP or whatever if you have anything like that still installed02:01
wizardjamesok,   ..just gota remind myself to undmz this port when i use windows again (duel boot)02:01
FHXno i wiped windows xp02:01
bshumatewizardjames: that is not advisable. you should only forward in the ports you actually need incoming connections on.02:01
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FHXi have nothing right now02:01
funkyHatwizardjames, why do you need to use the DMZ anyway?02:02
jhaigwizardjames: Opening everything up is generally a bad idea, even if your system is completely bullet-proof (which is very unlikely, although you are correct in saying that Linux is not a sieve like Windows ;-) )02:02
FHXXD which is why i 'm hoping hard that it will work02:02
wizardjamesthe router only lets me foward a few ports..  somethin like 8 , stupid imo.02:02
FHXso can I select continue?02:02
wizardjamesbut..   80, and 21 ?02:02
FHXor go back?02:02
funkyHatFHX, if there is a continue option, try it :)02:03
FHXokie02:03
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kingstar518How to config JAVA's environment variable JAVA_HOME in ubuntu?02:03
FHXi'm doing itme zone now02:03
FHXit still says the copying packages thing failed, but nothing I can do about that02:03
FHX...hm.my screen's blank02:03
apokryphoskingstar518: no need to do all that   -- just install the sun java debs02:03
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jhaigwizardjames: Make sure your Linux machine has a firewall set up, but it is good to try to block everything you don't need on the router *and* the firewall.02:03
omerlhHello02:04
funkyHatkingstar518, is that a normal environment variable? if so export JAVA_HOME variable02:04
bSONhi02:04
wizardjamesok..02:04
omerlhHow can I use emerge? What is it?02:04
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funkyHatjhaig, everything is already blocked by ubuntu02:04
FHXcreating new user accounts..02:04
FHXconfigureing apt now..50%02:04
bshumatekingstar518: add a line in /etc/profile : JAVA_HOME = <path_to_java> ; export JAVA_HOME02:05
jhaigfunkyHat: Good policy.  :-)02:05
funkyHat:)02:05
FHXAh, it now says: installing grub boot loader02:05
FHXit ejecgted my cdrom02:05
funkyHat:)02:05
bSONomerlh: emerge is gentoo's packaging system. the packages are all source packages, compiled when installed02:05
funkyHatlooking good FHX02:05
FHXWOOHOO!02:05
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mweor just export JAV_HOME='/path/to/java'02:05
FHXFirst stay of installation complete02:05
FHXw00t!02:05
FHX^^02:05
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SirKillalotis there a plugin for xmms to use it with my multimedia keys on my microsoft natural keyboard?02:06
FHXNow i can go take a long-deserved shower while it does its stuff02:06
funkyHatarg.... that's the one mwe... I got that a bit wrong lol02:06
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zx80userAnybody able to get gnomad2 working with a Creative Zen? I can get it to work on Fedora Core 4 but not Ubuntu02:06
omerlhO.K. thanks.02:06
aidehuaHmmm.  Looks like one can't currently install Breezy on a machine that is networked!02:07
bSONomerlh: if you have to deal with emerge in some kind of way, you should ask in #gentoo02:07
zx80useraidehua ?02:08
aidehuaSomething about the archive being broken: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/2828181.html02:08
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ratmim trying to install the original nvidia drivers, but he cant find that 'version.h' file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ewUmLt95.html02:08
moniquebom dia02:08
aidehuaI'm not actually net-installing -- I'm installing from a CD on a machine that is networked (so can access updates), and I'm sort of guessing that I'm having the same issues net-install people have :/02:09
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ZambbaI'm having problem with display refresh rate. I've changed it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I can't select 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz from KDE Control Center02:09
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aidehua(Odd though, in that I managed to install on this machine just fine a few days ago.  Maybe a recent update has broken the installer.)02:10
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apokryphosZambba: have you selected that option in xorg.conf?02:10
zx80useraidehua I am not sure what you mean, if you mean you are having difficulties installing on a machine that is on a network then you shouldn't - cannot believe that is what you really mean though02:10
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zx80useraidehua ah, maybe it is a recent update problem. Just try cd then apt-get upgrade02:11
apokryphosZambba: in the dpkg-reconfigure, that is.02:11
ZambbaI have selected it in dpkg-reconfigure.02:11
apokryphosZambba: if X accepts it, then it should be listed as an option in krandrtray (or kcontrol, that is)02:11
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kingstar518I've edit /etc/profile, join java's bin path,I've installed tomcat ,but when run tomcat's startup,Point out "Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined02:12
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kingstar518At least one of these environment variable is needed to run this program02:12
kingstar518"02:12
aidehuazx80user: I'm installing Breezy on a machine with network access.  In the 'second stage' of the install (the bit that happens after you boot for the first time) the base-config stuff is saying I have a dependency issue with libesd-alsa0 and libesd0, which stops the installation from proceeding :/02:12
ZambbaAnd if X doesn't accept it?02:12
apokryphosthen it wouldn't appear in there02:12
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bshumatekingstar518: edit Tomcat's startup script and just set JAVA_HOME in there...02:13
mwekingstar518: how do you start tomcat?02:13
zx80useraidehua, can you not just install off the CD then and then do an update?02:13
Zambbamy monitors maximium is 2048 x 1536 @ 75Hz and recommendation is 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz so it should work02:14
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aidehuazx80user: top tip -- I'm just trying that now :)02:14
kingstar518to sudo ./bin/startup.sh02:14
zx80useraidehua esd is the devil's work in any case :)02:14
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aidehuazx80user: I did wonder what on earth it was doing in the 'standard install' :)02:14
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jepagodoHow can i root with the live-cd?02:14
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mwekingstar518: maybe sudo JAVA_HOME='/path/to/java' ./bin/startup.sh will work02:15
kingstar518thanks mwe, I'll try.02:15
mwekingstar518: also after editing /etc/profile you should source /etc/profile for the current shell to reflect changes02:15
zx80useraidehua it is almost certainly in all distros actually, but it can lead to all sorts of problems when it goes bad02:15
bshumatejepagodo: use sudo <command>  (there is no password)02:16
jepagodookay02:16
aidehuazx80user: do you think I should remove the network for the entire install process?  Do I need it for the first-step-intall-from-cd-bit?02:16
mwekingstar518: env|grep JAVA will show if JAVA_HOME is indeed set in the shell02:16
jepagodoHow can i delete things from my windows-partition?02:16
jepagodoIt's read-only right now02:17
aidehua(All this because I wanted to change from silly-silly choice of ReiserFS back to more-stable ext3.  Gumf.)02:17
HymnToLifejepagodo > boot from windows02:17
bshumatekingstar518: yes, what mwe says....exit the current shell and start a new one to have it source /etc/profile, or do something like this from the prompt:  . /etc/profile02:17
jepagodoHymnToLife: windows has crasched, and i haven't got enough space to reinstall it02:17
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mwejepagodo: it's not safe to write to ntfs from linux02:17
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zx80useraidehua I had no problem installing from a CD boot while on the network, but that was about a month ago, so unplug the network if you like but remember to configure the network card :)02:17
jepagodomwe: is it possible?02:18
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mwejepagodo: not with the default install I believe02:18
HymnToLifejepagodo > then you can format your whole windows partition before reinstalling02:18
ratmi want to install the nvidia drivers, but it doesnt find the version.h file :\ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ewUmLt95.html02:18
HymnToLiferatm > install the kernel headers matching your current kernel version02:18
coldanyone know how to turn off randomize stack in ubuntu?02:19
ratmi did..it created that *deb file while compiling02:19
bshumatejepagodo: it is possible, but not recommended, and very dangerous.  you will cause more trouble than you've currently got now trying to write to windows ntfs from linux...02:19
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jepagodoi use samba on another computer in my network, how do i mount a folder on that machine on this machine?02:20
FHXI have a problem02:20
FHXT_T02:20
FHXanother one02:20
willemHello, I've upgraded to dapper, but now my wireless card does not find my network. The card is recognized as a TI ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface, any pointers on where to look?02:20
FHXit's stuck at : Preparing for installation 0%02:20
FHXany ideas?02:21
mwewillem: I think some things in dapper are broken, since it's not released yet02:21
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FHX..02:22
FHXAnyone have any ideas?02:22
willemmwe: yeah, that's what i thought, but since the card is recognized i thought thare might be a way to figure out how to get it working again....02:23
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apokryphosyou won't get much help with dapper here. It's recommended that you do *not* use it.02:23
FHX..02:24
FHXUm. Any ideas?02:24
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apokryphosFHX: again, no reason to flood. If someone is able/willing to help, they will. :)02:24
FHXok02:24
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sam_good morning everyone02:26
tRSSmornin' sam!02:26
jepagodohow can i make the default user be able to access my windows-partition?02:26
teroedniwillem:Have you tried ndiswarpper?02:26
jepagodoit just says "read-only-system" when i run chmod02:26
sam_how do i use the remote desktop application02:26
teroednindiswarapper02:26
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willemapokryphos: ok...02:27
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tRSSjepagodo: are you able to access the windows partition at all?02:27
ratmHymnToLife they're installed, but in /usr/src02:27
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jepagodotRSS: as root02:27
willemteroedni: yeah i did, didnt help though... also in breezy it just worked, and since the card is recognized i thought it to be a small problem in configuration...02:28
tRSSjepagodo: you mean only as root?02:28
jepagodoyep02:28
tRSSjepagodo: can you paste your fstab on pastebin so that I can take a look at it02:29
willemhmmm. now i see my breezy64 just performs a X reboot by itself on my other pc!02:29
jepagodowhere do i find fstab?02:29
tRSSjepagodo: in /etc/02:29
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ratmwhat can i do if my kernel headers are installed in /usr/src but the nvidia installer searches for them in /lib/modules/ ?02:30
mrkojejepagodo,  just   cat /etc/fstab   and then copy and paste that into the pastebin02:30
jepagodotRSS: http://jepagodo.org/fstab02:31
HymnToLiferatm > copy the files :p02:31
HymnToLifeor make a symlink02:31
ratmthats what i also thought of..but ..in /lib/modules there is a dir for my current kernel02:32
tRSSjepagodo: just fstab to make sure you have this line: /dev/hda1       /media/windows     ntfs    ro,auto,user,nls=utf8,umask=0222        0       002:32
ratmwould a "--kernel-source-path" work?02:33
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HymnToLiferatm > sure, that's what it's for :)02:33
tRSSjepagodo: if you have a fat32 partition then use vfat instead of ntfs02:33
ratmk...ill give it a atry ...thnks02:33
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GnarlyBoblspci shows "Intel Corp. Unknown device" for almost everything after install of breezy :(02:34
GnarlyBobe.g. no network, no mouse, no sound02:35
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lamp_what packages do i need to compile the nvidia driver with the nvidia installer02:37
xandron_rooti installed some cvs modules in /lib/modules and the new kernel panics on boot, I can only boot with the old version how can I fix this?02:37
arisbuild-essential, linux-source02:38
SirKillalothowis the program called which is used by the keyboard shortcut to change the volume?02:38
xandron_rootis there a way to reinstall the default ubuntu modules?02:38
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!lilo:*! Added two new items to the freenode channel guidelines. See "Look for the best in people" and "Set a good example". Maybe intuitive stuff, but it never hurts to lay things out. http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml .... 02:42
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chaoticgeekhello?02:44
spiregrainhello02:44
gnomefreakhi02:44
chaoticgeekI'm having problems with my time02:44
spiregrainnot enough of it?02:45
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gnomefreaklol02:45
chaoticgeekit is going about 4 times faster than what it is supposed to go02:45
chaoticgeekI had it set correctly about 3 minuets ago, but now its 11 minuets fast02:45
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gnomefreakchaoticgeek, is the time in your bios right?02:46
chaoticgeekI have no clue what is worng, I turned on the seconds counter and the seconds go buy 4 times as fast then they should02:46
chaoticgeekI belive so02:46
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gnomefreakis it default clock? :(02:47
chaoticgeekyes02:47
spiregrainvery odd, I have no idea what that could be02:47
chaoticgeekwhen I boot to windows it works fine, except linux changes the time to the bios and so I have to reset the time but it works normaly02:47
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gnomefreakme neither went through what i thought might cause it but i have never seen a clock go fast like that02:47
gnomefreakchaoticgeek, breezy or hoary?02:48
chaoticgeek5.1002:48
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spiregraintry a "/etc/init.d/ntpdate stop02:48
spiregrain", see if that sorts it02:48
chaoticgeekupdated too02:48
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chaoticgeekok02:49
chaoticgeeknothing changed02:49
spiregrainif the time you get from the "date" command also wrong02:50
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saekaaterHello02:50
saekaaterI have problem02:50
saekaaterGrub gives error02:50
saekaaterGRUB loading stage 1.5.02:50
saekaaterGRUB hard disk error02:50
randyI have many problems02:50
randyxDDD02:50
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superpimphello02:50
chaoticgeekyes it is spiregrain02:50
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spiregrainchaoticgeek- what type of computer is it?02:51
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gnomefreakubotu tell saekaater about grub02:51
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chaoticgeekAMD sempron02:51
chaoticgeekits premade by HP/compaq02:51
spiregrainlaptop?02:52
chaoticgeekdesktop02:52
superpimpcould anyone help me?02:52
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gnomefreakchaoticgeek,  do you have another desktop environment set up other than gnome?02:53
chaoticgeekno02:53
chaoticgeekI could though02:53
spiregrainsorry, supperpimp, I Know Nothing about grub02:53
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gnomefreaksuperpimp,  wasnt a grub issue was he?02:53
gnomefreaksuperpimp,  what is your issue?02:54
superpimpits ubuntu02:54
superpimpgot some issues with LiveCD02:54
gnomefreakcan you be lil less general?02:54
chaoticgeekgnomefreak: I tried sudo apt-get xfce4 but I got an error; "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 28 23:57:09 2005"02:54
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jendaAKA more specific :(02:54
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jenda*:)02:54
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spiregrainchaoticgeek- does this look helpful http://ensode.net/no_timer_check.html ?02:54
superpimpwell, when I boot with LiveCD it says Controller is using wrong IRQ02:54
superpimpand doesnt boot02:55
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mikeloanybody know how to install original mdbtools?02:55
mikelonot from synaptic02:55
superpimpany ideas?02:56
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chaoticgeekthanks that should help it seems02:56
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gnomefreakmikelo,  im assuming youve tried apt-get install mdbtools?02:56
chaoticgeekI wont get to test it out yet cuz I'm d/ling something02:56
HeartBTsorry, wrong x02:56
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mikeloactually i haven't the thing is that i need odbc support02:58
mikeloi'll try that right now02:58
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chaoticgeekok, is there a way to change grub w/ out being root?02:59
gnomefreakmikelo, this maybe a stupid question but why do you want to know how to install something if you dont know if it will fix your problem?02:59
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gnomefreaksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:59
chaoticgeekI can not do sudo at all, I keep getting an error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 28 23:57:09 200502:59
chaoticgeek"02:59
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gnomefreaktry sudo -i see what it says02:59
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chaoticgeeksame thing03:00
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malvcan anyone recommend a solid wireless adaptor that works well under high throughput conditions?03:00
gnomefreakand other than booting into grub i dont know anyway of changing any "root" owned files without sudo03:00
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mikelognomefreak, i need to set up an odbc connection with an mdb db03:01
malvi just broke my last wireless card which was based off a ralink chipset03:01
malvlast time I buy any card using a ralink chipset03:01
mikelothe standard install does not furnish the adequate mdb drivers03:01
gnomefreakand im assuming youve tried #windows?03:02
spiregrainchaoticgeek- use the date command to change the date back the the distant past03:02
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mikeloanother question: how do i tell ubuntu to exec some prog every time i boot03:02
mikelo#windows was empty03:02
braniffis there an iptables UI distributed with ubuntu 5.10 ??03:03
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gnomefreakbraniff, yes if you mean gui03:03
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bshumatebraniff: you can install firestarter03:03
gnomefreak!firestarter03:03
ubotuwell, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic03:03
braniffoh ok, thank you03:03
gnomefreakyw03:03
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FHXfunkyHat MY INSTALLATION WORKED!03:05
FHX*apologizes for caps*03:05
FHXXD03:05
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superpimp:p03:05
funkyHatFHX, :D cool03:05
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spiregrainfhx++03:05
superpimpcould anyone help me?03:06
FHX=D Love it muchly03:06
FHX*glomps everyone*03:06
hungerHow can I check the integrety of all installed debs? Or to reinstall everything?03:06
michal_how can I create a desktop shortcut to a folder?03:06
saekaaterWhat should I do when grub gives hard disk error?03:06
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Blissexsaekaater: cry.03:06
superpimplol03:06
saekaaterI have try that03:06
saekaaterBut i dont help03:06
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saekaater*it03:07
saekaater*it03:07
superpimp:p03:07
Blissexsaekaater: well, it is not supposed to help, just a natural reaction :-)03:07
hungerFHX: Congratulations!03:07
ElitePetemichal_, right click a folder, select create link then drag the link to the desktop03:07
Blissexsaekaater: the best thing is to use a bootable CD and test if you can access the disk from it.03:07
hungerFHX: Mine still does not boot.03:07
mikeloanother question: how do i tell ubuntu to exec some prog every time i boot03:07
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Blissexhunger: 'debsums'03:07
superpimphello03:07
raptoidlkj03:07
hungerBlissex: Thanks!03:08
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superpimpanyone? :p03:08
spiregrainmikelo- what type of prog?03:08
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Blissexmikelo: you create a script, put it in '/etc/init.d', and then use 'update-rc.d' to make it run in the runlevels you choose.03:08
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saekaaterBlissex my hard disk works well and I can access it03:08
superpimphello03:09
Blissexsaekaater: so which exact error does GRUB give you?03:09
superpimplol03:09
Blissexsuperpimp: specific questions pls03:09
saekaaterGRUB lodagin stage 1.5.03:09
saekaaterGRUB hard disk error03:09
superpimpwell, when I boot with LiveCD it says Controller is using wrong IRQ03:09
gnomefreaki just googled odbc in linux and the first one is a good place to start "if google isnt your freind make freinds with it" very very helpful03:09
bshumatemikelo: or just add your program to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script03:09
mikelook thanx03:09
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mikelokewl03:09
superpimpwhat could be the problem?03:10
Blissexsaekaater: uhm very vague but that could mean that the disk has some bad sector exactly in the area in which GRUB puts the 1.5 and 2 stage boot files.03:10
Blissexsuperpimp: thats a bit better, but still a bit too vague.03:10
spiregrainmikelo - blissex's answer will work well for non-gui things.  But for deskop apps, it's better to use the Preferences / Session program03:10
superpimpwell03:10
superpimpI cant say more cause after that it just stops booting :p03:10
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mikelook03:11
Blissexsuperpimp: ah, so it is a bit deadly.03:11
zool2005here's a daft question, how can I change my text colour with X-Chat?03:11
superpimpyes it is03:11
Blissexmikelo: in any case the Debian site has a page of docs on ''the boot concept'' as it is called03:11
gnomefreakhow many cd roms do you have if more than one did you try both super?03:11
Blissexsuperpimp: which IRQ does it mention?03:11
mwezool2005: I believe in the options dialog?03:11
superpimpeuh03:11
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superpimpI got 15 cd's03:12
Blissexgnomefreak: in any case #x-chat03:12
mikeloexcellent03:12
superpimpbut I'm not at home and I only brought 103:12
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spiregrainsuper - you could try pplaying about in your bios- things like plug'n'play settings can affetc it03:12
gnomefreakBlissex, #x-chat?03:12
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superpimpIt says: controller is probably using wrong IRQ and then it stops03:12
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superpimpspiregrain, what do you mean?03:12
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Blissexgnomefreak: there is a fairly popular channel for X-Chat users... I think it is called #X-Chat indeed, and its /topic will have pointers to the config FAQ etc.03:13
SarkyHi - I have some trouble with Ubuntu and my network card, can anyone help me?03:13
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benplautwhere is the System menu stored?03:13
gnomefreakBlissex, im not having issues with xchat :(03:13
Blissexsuperpimp: that a ''controller'' is usijng the wrong IRQ is improbable. Which IRQ does it mention?03:13
benplaut~/.config/menus/settings.menu only says to merge with itself :/03:13
Blissexgnomefreak: sorry, I thought you were the one asking about colors in X-Chat.03:13
superpimpI dont really now, I'm on winxp now so03:14
mweBlissex: that was zool200503:14
Blissexmwe: oops03:14
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Blissexzool2005: sorry, that #X-Chat was for you03:14
gnomefreaknope not me im used to bitchx lol just on xchat cause its easier on eyes03:14
zool2005cheers03:14
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spiregrainsuperpimp - this guy ( http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=375949 ) had a similar problem and fixed it by "bios, I switched my IDE config from Latency mode to Native mode, which moved my drive order around and freed up another irq. With this said, I popped the Knoppix CD back in the drive (after fishing it out of the trash) and it booted up perfectly!"03:15
Blissexsuperpimp: if it works under MSW XP and not under Ubuntu it is pretty weird.03:15
saekaaterBlissex: how can i test is there any bad sectors in my hard disk?03:15
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superpimpeuh03:15
SarkyHi - anyone here who can help me please?03:15
Blissexsuperpimp: try to boot with the usual ''mess around with IRQ'' parameters, like 'pci=biosirq' for example.03:15
superpimpthe problem is I cant boot Ubuntu03:15
spiregrainsaekaater- fsck03:15
saekaaterwhats that?03:15
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zool2005#X-Chat03:15
Blissexsaekaater: there is a utility called 'badblocks', or the '-c' parameter to 'fsck'.03:16
gnomefreakthe command for checking disk03:16
funkyHatSarky, it's best just to ask about your problem specifically03:16
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spiregrainfsck = file system check03:16
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SarkyUbuntu refuses to detect my Netgear FA310-TX Ethernet device, modprobe tulip had no effect03:16
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gnomefreak!hardware03:17
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:17
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gnomefreakSarky,  wired or wireless?03:17
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funkyHatgnomefreak, he said ethernet03:18
Sarkyhe he :)03:18
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sarathhi03:18
superpimp?03:18
sarathany one there03:18
gnomefreakyuour gonna laugh :(03:18
Sarkydidnt mean to offend you, sorry ;)03:19
funkyHathe heh e03:19
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sarathcan any one tell me how to setup a mail server in ubuntu03:19
gnomefreakaccourding to this site the netgear fa311 is the only one supported but ubuntu :(03:19
Blissexsarath: thats a somewhat long and involved story if done well :-)03:19
mwesarath: yeah. read the postfix wiki03:19
cyphasegnomefreak, only what?03:19
Sarkygnomefreak: hm... isnt there any generic driver I can use?03:19
gnomefreaknetgear wired nic03:19
Blissexsarath: most people read a fair bit of docs before trying.03:19
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cyphaseoh03:19
sarathbli...03:20
superpimpeuh03:20
sarathcould not get u03:20
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SarkyI need networking-abilities on my ubuntu box :(03:20
superpimpany other ideas for my problem?03:20
FaithXSarky: sure your netgear isn't a natsemi ?03:20
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sarathany way can u guide me03:20
sarathi just started working on that in my server03:20
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Goshawkis dapper stable enought?03:20
gnomefreakGoshawk, no03:21
SarkyFaithX: How to find out? The device identies as "LiteOn Technologies Ltd. Ethernet Device" in lspci03:21
funkyHatGoshawk, NO03:21
mwesarath: read the postfix wiki for starters, like I suggested03:21
gnomefreakyou have 3-4 more months Goshawk03:21
Blissexsarath: ideally you should get a book on Postfix config, or download and read carefully the Postfix docs.03:21
FaithXSarky: true... then it ain't a natsemi03:21
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mwesarath: explaining how to install and configure over irc is to complicated03:21
Blissexsarath: the Postfix wiki that mwe suggests is a very good starting point.03:21
sarathok03:21
Goshawkgnomefreak, funkyHat ok, so i'll put it on my repo just to install gtk-gnutella, and i'll not upgrade03:21
Goshawkthanks03:21
cyphasejust for the record, the netgear MA111 works perfectly with ndiswrapper03:21
superpimpany other ideas for my problem?03:21
funkyHatGoshawk, what's wrong with the gtk-gnutella that's in breezy?03:22
sarathatleast tell me where to go then i will try to do03:22
cyphaseit's a USB dongle, comes with an extension cord03:22
gnomefreakGoshawk,  whats wrong with breezys version?03:22
Blissexsarath: it also depends a lot on what you want to do with your email server, and whether it is an SMTP or a POP3/IMAP one or both.03:22
sarathif its complicated i will download and read03:22
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Sarkycyphase: So far I did not plan to buy a new device :-(03:22
mwesarath: wiki.ubuntu.com, seach for postfix03:22
funkyHatIt's like we are one mind...03:22
GoshawkfunkyHat, gnomefreak it doesn't work03:22
sarathits mail server which should handle a domain users03:22
Goshawkbecause it's too old03:22
Goshawkit does not connect03:22
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Blissexsarath: it can be not complicated, but it requires understanding what the issues are. And that requires reading and thinking about it.03:22
cyphaseSarky, i'm just saying :P03:22
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Goshawkbecause it conflicts with the new version03:22
funkyHatGoshawk, ah03:22
Sarkycyphase: ok, thanks anyways ;)03:23
FHXsorry dc'd03:23
sarathi understand but atleast where to start then i can ....03:23
FHXI was asking, how to i get it to recognize usb devices?03:23
Blissexsarath: there are two type of mail servers, those that send/receive mail (SMTP) and those that store/serve mailboxes (POP3/IMAP)03:23
FHXe.g. flash/thumbdrives, mp3 players03:23
FaithXSarky: no model number?03:23
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sarathsecond one03:23
SarkyFaithX: NETGEAR FA-310TX Ethernet03:23
sarathstore/serve mailboxes03:23
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sarathpop3/imap03:23
Blissexsarath: ah then it is not Postfix, it would be something like Courier or Dovecot03:24
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sarathcan i have url03:24
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Blissexsarath: as you can see we were already starting in the wrong direction...03:24
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Blissexsarath: sure, wait....03:24
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FaithXSarky: try modprobe natsemi anyway03:25
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gnomefreaknatsemi= the chipset/drivers used with netgear products03:25
SarkyFaithX: ok, just a sec03:25
gnomefreakwhen they started and or stopped useing that chipset is beyond me03:25
traegnomefreak, you still at it?03:25
traegnomefreak, ;)03:26
sarathi got the courier03:26
Blissexsarath: BTW, there is a fairly nice server for mailboxes/intranet called Hula, have a look in the meantime at Hula.org03:26
gnomefreakim wondering if he cant use the fa311 drivers?03:26
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testtesting03:26
test1 2 303:26
gnomefreakgm trae03:26
willemit works03:26
testworks =] 03:26
traemornin'03:26
trae:)03:26
braniffhow do i start/stop services in ubuntu ??03:26
testmornin to you too03:26
sarathok03:26
traebraniff, /etc/init.d/foo start/stop03:27
FaithXSarky: everything points it being a tulip card... but...03:27
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braniffthanks03:27
testcan someone help me? I decide to switch from Ubuntu into SuSe03:27
SarkyFaithX: The manufacturer disk comes with a tulip.c to compile, but it produces at least 1000 errors when trying to compile03:27
gnomefreak#suse is good with suse problems03:27
testsince there's a limit to the programs in Ubuntu03:27
traetest, there are nice people in #opensuse03:27
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traetest, they were quite helpful the other day.03:28
traetoo bad suse sucks. :)03:28
trae*chuckle*03:28
gnomefreak^5 tra03:28
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testwhich other is distro is good?03:28
traegnomefreak, heh03:28
willemtest: what limit?03:28
gnomefreakubuntu is good if not great03:28
FaithXSarky: so the standard tulip driver loads?03:28
testit limits to programs03:28
traegnomefreak, well, my best friend works on the distro, so it won't suck for long ;)03:28
SarkyFaithX: yes, but it has no effect03:28
sarathsounds interesting and this is url http://www.hula-project.org/Ubuntu03:28
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gnomefreakslack is good (not a good newbie distro)03:28
traegnomefreak, linuxart.com <-- Garrett03:28
testI can almost never fine a program that says "Ubuntu"03:28
ariswhat limits to programs ?03:29
willemyou want to run something else than programs?03:29
FaithXwhat does dmesg tell you?03:29
traecourse03:29
traehe can only make things pretty03:29
Blissexsarath: there is a simple GOWTO using courier here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.1003:29
aristest, can you give a simple example ?03:29
traehe can't stop yast from being a giant pile03:29
gnomefreaktest,  what do you mean says ubuntu?03:29
testLimeWIre03:29
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Sarkythere is no entry for modprobe in dmesg03:29
testLimewire has only for SuSe, Mandrake, and Redhat03:29
FaithXHmmm...03:29
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testevery linux program is for RedHat X_x03:30
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gnomefreakone of the people that has ubuntu comes in here is running limewire on ubuntu03:30
Blissexsarath: and this one is a bit more complete/complicated: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/edition3.html03:30
Sarkywhat was the name of the other device driver again to modprobe instead of tulip?03:30
gnomefreak!limewire03:30
ubotuI heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.03:30
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blaxterseijuu03:31
traetest, you might find some things are better under Fedora, or Redhat even, but eventuallly, you'll realize that the things you typically care about are setup and work out of the box with Ubuntu.03:31
testalso, can I get KDE on ubuntu? I don't really like gnome's style..03:31
traetest, kubuntu.org03:31
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traeheh03:31
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gnomefreakyes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)03:31
willemtest, you can install limewire using ' alien'03:31
testalien?03:32
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gnomefreakpssssst you dont need it03:32
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aristest, you just have to apt-get install kubuntu03:32
gnomefreak!limewire03:32
ubotufrom memory, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.03:32
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willemalien is for installing ' alien' (ie rpm) packages03:32
gnomefreakread that03:32
loftyhi people (-:03:32
arisand you have a working kubuntu03:32
FaithXSarky: well... go buy a realtek or an intel... or look through the source they gave you and see what they have added... figure out which kernel it is againt and diff against the original tulip.c hand patch the relevent bit (probably just a pci id) and compile the stock tulip with mods :)03:32
superpimpi'll just ask somewhere else then :)03:32
superpimpbyebye :D03:32
superpimp:p03:32
lofty<-- has a question: any ubuntu64 user in here?03:32
arislofty, i am03:32
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loftyaris you got mplayer to work?03:33
FaithXSarky which kernel you using?03:33
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loftyor anything else for non-free codec thingies like .wmv or else?03:33
chaoticgeekwho was helping me with my clock?03:33
SarkyFaithX: Well, I am a bit short of time to spend a few days on patching a device driver ;) Looks as if  Ubuntu is not a suitable alternative system for my old PC :-(03:33
arislofty, nope03:33
testhow do I get the KDE menu or panel on the bottom of my screen? =O03:33
arislofty, no flash either03:34
SarkyFaithX: 2.6.12-903:34
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loftyaris: same problem with me: no flash ):03:34
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arisif it's vital to you, you can run it into a x86 debootstrap03:34
pinkisntwellwhy System Monitor doesn't list all running processes?03:34
chaoticgeekwell my clock did not work03:34
willemlofty, you could run firefox in 32 bit03:34
willemthen you have flash03:34
chaoticgeekdoes not *03:34
loftywillem: but still no movies?03:34
testgnomeFreak> How do I get the kde toolbar/menu on the bottom of my screen?03:35
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saraththank u bli03:35
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sarathi will check and get back03:35
gnomefreakyou would install kubuntu-desktop03:35
willemlofty you could try installing mplayer as 32 bit and then install w32codecs03:35
sarathsounds interesting03:35
testi did like you told me03:36
sarathi think i made a mistake instead of server i have installed default03:36
teroednilofty aris:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats<-----amd64 flash scroll down;)03:36
chaoticgeekmy clock is starting to piss me off03:36
gnomefreaktest, after you install it log out of gnome and log into kde03:36
loftyteroedni, It won't function for me03:36
testok thanks gnome freak03:36
aristeroedni, flash is not vital for me03:36
loftytells me something about C compiler not working03:36
testwait..03:36
arisI'm just another one lost customer for macromedia03:36
testhow do I log off gnome? =P03:36
loftywillem, the problem with the w32codecs is that it won't install03:36
teroednilofty:Why not?03:36
gnomefreaksystem >logout03:37
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testok thanks03:37
loftyteroedni: lofty tells me something about C compiler not working03:37
gnomefreakonce logged out look for sessions and choose kde03:37
teroednithen you need to get the right c compiler03:37
gnomefreakbuild-essential03:37
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loftywillem, and if i do dpkg -i --force-all it will install, but my players don't seem to recognize it03:37
SarkyFaithX: Thanks for your help, I thnk I am going to slaughter an old PC now to get another Ethernet device03:38
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loftyteroedni, i always thought gcc was right03:38
arislofty, they won't recognize it because they can't load 32 bits modules03:38
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teroednilofty install build-essential03:38
gnomefreakgcc is the most widely used compiler for C03:38
teroednilofty:Me too until i began compiling difference thinngs;)03:38
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loftyteroedni, so what shell I install then?03:39
teroedniyou should install the buil-essentila03:39
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loftyok03:39
gnomefreakbuild-essential too03:39
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gnomefreak:))03:39
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mwebuil-essentila?03:40
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loftyteroedni, that still won't solve my movie problem though03:40
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teroednilofty:I dont know about that sorry:(03:40
loftyteroedni, which I have to say is the more important thingy for me (:03:40
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eksajmhey, when i insert a usb device in my computer hotplug finds it and mounts it. butkonqour opens /sda1.. why? the usb device has an other name..03:40
gnomefreaklofty, its best to solve one problem than another03:40
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teroednilofty:sudo apt-get install build-essential03:41
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loftyteroedni, already did (:03:41
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teroednithen atleast you can get flash working03:41
teroedniokey03:41
eksajmhey, when i insert a usb device in my computer hotplug finds it and mounts it. butkonqour opens /sda1.. why? the usb device has an other name..03:41
teroedniwhat movie doesnt work?03:42
loftygnomefreak, you have an idea for movies?03:42
mweeksajm: don't repeat03:42
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gnomefreaki thought flash enabled you to watch movies?03:42
mweeksajm: no one seems to know03:42
loftygnomefreak, the problem is that i can't watch movies in general03:42
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loftygnomefreak, like .mov, .avi, .wmv etc.03:42
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willemlofty, sorry, but i can no longer stay with you to help, gotta go.... :(03:42
loftywillem, no problem, thanks for your help (:03:43
eksajmmwe,  sorry.03:43
loftywillem, bye03:43
willemlaters03:43
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teroednilofty:That works fine with me03:43
loftyteroedni, how?03:43
mwelofty: get the codecs installed03:43
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teroedninot sure if i can view wmw although03:43
loftymwe, how? (:03:43
ubnewdose 5.10 include firewall by defult /?03:43
gnomefreak!codecs03:43
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories03:43
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mwe!win32codecs03:43
ubotusomebody said win32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/03:43
mwe!restricted03:44
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats03:44
chaoticgeekno_timer_check03:44
teroednilofty:Try totem-xine03:44
gnomefreakubnew, yes linux in general provides a firewall built into the kernel03:44
TotalNewbAnyone know what happend to plf.acnova.com? It was in my list of repositories and for some reaon recently I haven't been able to resolve the host for it.03:44
loftyteroedni, i installed totem-xine03:44
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mwelofty: where ubotu just suggested03:44
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loftyTeroedni, Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies03:44
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mwelofty: hello. follow the urls ubotu suggested03:44
ubnewgnomefreak: how to remove it all... i did removed iptable but still can send webcam.. while can resive03:45
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loftymwe, i already did that03:45
loftymwe,  it will point me to w32codecs03:45
pinkisntwellI have two smb.conf files in my system, which one is used and why do I have two?03:45
loftymwe, sudo dpkg -i --force-all w32* won't do the trick03:45
gnomefreakubnew, iptables is the name for the firewall thats in the kernel03:45
eksajmdont youhave flash a bit down in that file?03:45
loftymwe, well, it says it is installed, but totem-xine nor mplayer will show me the videos03:45
TotalNewbAll hail the greed of Micro$oft.03:45
mweforce-all? why would you need that?03:45
gnomefreakhow to remove it is beyond me firewalls are good things to have03:45
loftymwe, because it says that w32codecs won't fit into my architecture (amd64)03:46
teroedniLOFTY:hAVE YOU INSTALLED FFMPEG03:46
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mwelofty: then probably they wont work. that's what it says03:46
gnomefreakyou know you really only need to change settings not remove the firewall :(03:46
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loftyteroedni, erm i dont know (: letme have a look03:46
teroednisorry about the caps03:46
TirnoHi. I'm having problems using my ipod nano with ubuntu hoary03:46
loftyteroedni, it's ok... installing ffmpeg right now03:46
ubnewgnomefreak: dunno but i was able to send and resive webcams.. but since i updated kernel with apt-get update .. no hope03:47
gnomefreakubotu tell Tirno about ipod03:47
loftymwe, yeah... I had that conclusion too03:47
mwelofty: don't force install things that says they are borked for your system03:47
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Tirnowoops sorry03:47
Tirnothe googlejuice for the ubuntu wiki doesn't seem to work too well. should have known to check there first03:47
loftyteroedni, what do i do with ffmpeg now it's installed?03:48
gnomefreakubnew, apt-get update doesnt update the kernel :(03:48
teroedninothing:)03:48
teroedniplay a movie03:48
mweheh03:48
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gnomefreakhell apt-get upgrade doesnt even update kernel :(03:48
mweffmpeg will let you play wmv files?!03:49
teroednimve:Maybe im not sure03:49
ubnewgnomefreak: it did... from 2.6.12.9 to 2.6.12.1003:49
mweI think not03:49
teroednimwe:It works atleast for mpeg files03:49
mweyeah03:49
loftyteroedni,  it won't play that movie03:49
aris[doritos] mpeg is a standard03:49
aris[doritos] wmv9 is not03:49
teroednilofty can you play normally mpeg files now?03:50
pinkisntwellwmv9 it's not an open codec but it works under linux if you go through some hoops03:50
loftyteroedni, i don't know, i don't have any03:50
mwebut he want the restricted formats though. too bad the debs don't work with amd6403:50
teroedniso your only got wmv files?03:50
ubnewgnomefreak: what do i need for ip forwording? change in router or in iptables if i reinstall ?03:51
loftyteroedni, it's a new installed system03:51
gnomefreakubotu tell ubnew about firestarter03:51
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gnomefreakubnew, i can only get kernel upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade in breezy03:52
Tirnohmmm... I'm confused. Hoary seems to be able to mount the ipod with no problem (with no input from me), but it is out of the box - not pc formatted.03:52
gnomefreakor using synaptic03:52
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teroednilofty:I can barely play some wmv file myself:( Most of them fail03:52
loftyhmm03:52
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ubnewgnomefreak: im new to this.. but i'll try firestarter and see..03:53
loftyteroedni, my flash won't work after all03:53
Tirnolooking at /etc/mtab, it seems to have loaded it as vfat03:53
ubnewgnomefreak: thanks man..03:53
loftyteroedni, even after compiling03:53
gnomefreakfirestarter is a GUI to set the firewall settings03:53
gnomefreakubnew,  i dont use it the settings are fine for me03:53
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ubnewgnomefreak: gui.. umm nice..03:54
gnomefreaklol03:54
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ubnewlemme install03:54
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loftymwe, have you any idea why flash still isn't working?03:56
SarkyHi again! I replaced my NETGEAR FA-310TX Ethernet device by a noname product with Realtek 8139 Chip, but it still doesnt work - dmesg says "pci dev 0000:00:08.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not a 8139C+ compatible chip" - what do I have to do?03:57
gnomefreak!hardware03:57
ubotufrom memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:57
gnomefreakSarky, that is a list of supported hardware for ubuntu03:57
aris[doritos] Sarky, you're damn not lucky03:57
aris[doritos] it's pretty hard to have a pci ethernet card not supported03:58
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Sarkyaris[doritos] : This is my second card which is not recognized, it really sucks :-(03:58
teroednilofty:Then you still missing something03:58
loftyteroedni, I did what the wiki said03:58
Sarkygnomefreak: I know, the list says realtek is supported03:59
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teroednitry again and look after error03:59
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pinkisntwellI think I have a Realtek chip that works with linux03:59
loftyteroedni, i had installed libflash-moz installed before03:59
teroednilofty:I know but your probably missing something03:59
gnomefreakSarky,  are you on breezy?03:59
Sarkygnomefreak: yep03:59
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm04:00
teroednipinkisntwell:All realtek should work04:00
UbuntuNewbieHow good is the disk partitioning program on the Ubuntu CD (i.e., does it work well or have a reputation for problems)?04:00
pinkisntwellSarky: are you sure it's not supported?04:00
Sarkypinkisntwell: dmesg says so :-/04:01
gnomefreakit is supported im on site now04:01
gnomefreakSarky, by chance did you try rebooting?04:01
Sarkybut why the hell doesnt it recognize my card? :(04:01
loftyteroedni, dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /home/guenay/gplflash-0.4.13/gplflash-0.4.13_0.4.13-1_x86_64.deb (--install):04:01
lofty Paket-Architektur (x86_64) passt nicht zum System (amd64)04:01
loftyFehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:04:01
lofty /home/guenay/gplflash-0.4.13/gplflash-0.4.13_0.4.13-1_x86_64.deb04:01
loftyteroedni, that won't fit in my architecture it seems04:01
Sarkygnomefreak: erm... no, but I didnt change my card when the system was running...04:01
gnomefreakSarky,  good point04:02
Sarky:)04:02
spiregrainhey sarky- I seem to have the same as you, and it works for me:  "0000:02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)04:02
spiregrain"04:02
gnomefreakon the boot screen the (black and brown) screen did it fail there?04:02
teroednihmm lofty could you paste a bigger portion of that in www.pastebin.com04:02
loftyteroedni, what do you mean by bigger portion?04:03
Sarkyspiregain: yep, thats the same one04:03
Sarkyspiregain: what did you do to make it work?04:03
teroedniohh thats all you get?04:03
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loftyteroedni, if i want to see the log, yes04:03
gnomefreaklofty,  im thinking he means all of the dmesg ot lspci -vv output in pastebin04:03
gnomefreakot/or04:03
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pyrhohi all04:04
spiregraintry modprobing mii, 8139too, and 8139cp04:04
pyrhoanyone got gtk installed on unbuntu ?04:04
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Viper550Of course, Gnome uses GTK!!!04:04
Stormx2hello all04:05
Sarkyspiregain: already tried, modules are loaded but no effect04:05
pyrhoyes i know i use gnome ^^04:05
pyrhobut the problem is i'm trying to compile04:05
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Stormx2So most people use GTK then04:05
gnomefreakbrb04:05
Stormx2pyrho: Trying to compile what?04:05
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pyrhoa c script using #include <gtk/gtk.h>04:05
pyrhoand it says that it can't find gtk.h04:05
Viper550Why are you asking if anyone has GTK on Ubuntu? All Ubuntu users have it because the Gnome desktop runs under that language.04:05
pyrho:/04:05
pyrhoow ok04:05
Stormx2pyrho: Run a search for gtk.h then04:05
teroednilofty:Go into synaptic and make sure you have gcc3.3 and gcc 3.4 installed04:05
loftyhttp://pastebin.com/48023804:06
loftythats lspci -vv04:06
pyrhoi tried, but what shall i use find gtk.h ? slocate ? locate ?04:06
Stormx2Viper550: Not all ubuntu users have it. Some don't have gnome. Some don't even use X04:06
pyrhonone of these work :/04:06
aris[doritos] pyrho, you need libgtk-dev04:06
Viper550This is by default, I'm under it right now!04:06
Stormx2pyrho: if you are using gnome, Places > Find04:06
aris[doritos] or something like it04:06
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Stormx2yeah you need the dev package04:06
Viper550What is the best GTK theme?04:07
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Stormx2Viper550: Matter of opinion04:07
loftyViper550, the best is the one you like most04:07
Stormx2Viper550: www.gnome-look.org04:07
Viper550I like ClearLooks04:07
loftyViper550, who don't (:04:07
Stormx2Yes I'm using that now04:07
pyrhoaris[doritos] , i did install it using apt-get04:07
ardchoilleI put the updatedb command into a cronjob. Was this necessary or does Ubuntu run updatedb on its own?04:07
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Viper550Espically with that Cairo patch...wicked!!!04:08
FaithXSarky: did you get it sorted yet?04:08
Viper550I also love that new ClearLooks 2.0 Metacity, I think that will be the metacity for Dapper04:08
spiregrainsarky - it worked for me out of the bag, with no mucking about required04:08
UbuntuNewbiehi everybody04:08
SarkyFaithX: I replaced the adapter by a Realtek chip, but it still doenst work although spiregain here has the same chip04:09
Viper550Anyone on the art team list?04:09
rob_pardchoille:  If you have slocate (you probably do), then it's already got a symlink in /etc/cron.daily which will take care of daily updates.04:09
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spiregrainwhat does lspci have to say about it04:10
spiregrain?04:10
FaithXSarky: modprobe 8139too04:10
spiregrainmy chip is built-in to my laptop, not on a pci card04:10
SarkyFaithX: already tried, module loads but no effect04:10
rob_pardchoille:  correction... not a symlink... an actual script!04:10
FaithXwhat does ifconfig tell you?04:10
Sarkyit only displays the lo device04:10
FaithXSarky: try a different pci slot04:11
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pyrhoanyone tryed compiling a c script with #include <gtk/gtk.h> ?04:11
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SarkyFaithX: ok, I'll try - thanks :)04:11
Viper550I'm just wondering, does anyone still like Crux?04:11
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gnomefreakdoesnt kernel moduals hold the drivers for hardware?04:13
lofty(in reality I'm screaming out loud hehe)04:13
FaithXlofty: better than debian amd6404:13
eth42does anyone edit wiki.ubuntu.com here?04:13
Viper550yes!04:13
loftyFaithX, better than doesn't help me anyway (;04:13
FaithXlofty: what's your problem?04:13
loftyFaithX, vids and flash (;04:14
Viper550Crux is so old-skool!04:14
eth42Viper550: was that an answer to my question?04:14
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FaithXlofty: flash is ok vids tho... hmmm...04:14
Viper550the Yes, it was an answer! Also, I still like Crux04:14
n0dlhow do i view .chms?04:15
eth42Viper550: whatever Crux is....04:15
loftyFaithX, even flash will not function in my system (;04:15
FaithXlofty: did you do the workaround?04:16
eth42Viper550: I need some help with wiki.ubuntu.com: how do I set a wiki link to a page which is composed out of just one word (like Java). So no camelcase...04:16
ardchoillerob_p: Thank you :)04:16
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Viper550Umm, I don't know that, but Crux, that was that old default Gnome theme from the 2.0 days04:16
gnomefreaketh42,  you know html?04:16
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loftyFaithX, i followed the wiki04:16
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protixhi i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?04:17
eth42gnomefreak: well, yes, but if you wiki you're supposed not to use html, right?04:17
eth42gnomefreak: I mean that's the point of wikis#04:17
gnomefreaknalioth, this i know but he said he wants to put link on page to wiki is the way i read it04:17
loftyprotix, what do you mean by "you cannot setup your network"?04:18
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eth42ok, I have to use ["Java"] 04:18
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protixwell it work work ?04:18
synmooDoes anyone know the default root password for the Amd64 install? I just finished the install and I don't remember setting the root password and haven't been able to find it in the documentation.04:18
protixcan you give me show me how its done ?04:18
loftyprotix, what is your problem? network card not recognized? what did you try and won't work?04:18
gnomefreaksynmoo,  your user password04:18
naliothubotu: tell synmoo about root04:18
protixwho knows it just work coz im using DSL with USB04:19
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TirnoHi again. I think I've exhausted most of the info on the net I'm able to understand regarding this. I've got an out of the box ipod nano. I've got it to mount to /mnt/ipod04:19
Tirnodyke@tirno:/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes$ ls04:19
Tirnofirsttime04:19
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will_hey, how do I disable the feature that automaically mounts cds when you insert them?04:19
gnomefreakprotix, linux has never recognized my modem it sees my ethernet card and using that04:19
protixi tryed everything also the pppeo help on the forums04:19
loftyprotix, USB? do you have a wireless card?04:19
protixno04:20
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protixffs04:20
synmoognomefreak: When using either a blank pw, or the same pw I set for my initial login account, I get a login incorrect at the login prompt/su04:20
protixdsl modem04:20
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TirnoI'm confused. does this mean that I need to get it formatted to fat32?04:20
protixD-LINK320G04:20
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SarkyFaithX: changed PCI slot, still does not work :-(04:20
ardchoillewill_: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media04:20
gnomefreaksynmoo,  you cant log into ubuntu?04:20
loftyprotix, if your ethernet card is plugged in into your modem then you just have to get a pppoe connection, is that where the problem is?04:21
will_thanks ardchoille04:21
protixlol04:21
ardchoilleyw :)04:21
synmoognomefreak: I can login with the user account I created during setup, but cannot login as root with a blank password or with the password used creating my initial user account during setup04:21
Viper550Anyone remember the good old days of Gnome?04:21
protixi told you i use USB /// i dont have an "ethernet card"04:21
gnomefreaksynmoo,  did you read the pm ubotu sent you?04:21
protixor an ethernet card cable04:21
naliothsynmoo: there is no active root account, you can use sudo and your user password to take care of any superuser tasks04:21
protixit works via usb plug from the pc to the back of the modem04:22
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gnomefreaksu is disabled by default in ubuntu04:22
ElitePeteATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?04:22
loftyprotix, ok (-; can you say what "ifconfig" tells you?04:22
teroednilofty:Did you get my mesage?04:22
synmoognomefreak, nalioth: I skimmed it briefly, but I see my error now. Thanks for your help.04:22
kestaswhen they say there's no root account and su is disabled they mean root has no password04:22
ardchoillesynmoo: there is no reason to actually log into the root account. Everything you need to do can be done with sudo04:22
loftyteroedni, yes, i answered04:22
protixyes it has weird letters but not my ip04:22
protixand also it works fine in VMWARE but when i boot from bios it wont work04:23
loftyprotix show me those letters pls04:23
ElitePeteATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?04:23
cliebow_id like to add a script that runs just after kdm login..anyone point me to the file that needs tweaking..i can do it in rh from /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession04:23
protixi gotta reboot to nix then and i cant come on here without a connection ?04:23
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loftyhmm04:23
gnomefreakim kinda thinking from what ive seen the past 4days if you set up a su account in ubuntu it over rides the sudo account  is this right?04:23
dooglusthere's no such thing as a "su account" or a "sudo account".  there are accounts, that's all04:24
naliothgnomefreak: enabling a root account breaks things (read the wiki page) and it shouldnt override anything (unless you change something)04:24
synmooI just used sudo to change the root pw. Thanks.04:24
cliebow_gnomefreak: all i ever do is sudo passwd root and create a pw..then can use it judiciously04:24
protix?04:24
=== gnomefreak just checking i use and love sudo not going back to su unless i have to
loftymom04:25
protix:(04:25
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ardchoillegnomefreak: su is simply an executable in /bin/su04:25
dooglusnalioth: which wiki page?  and what in particular does it break?  I've not had any problems04:25
gnomefreakoh ok04:25
loftyprotix i need to know what ifconfig tells because if your usb-device is listed in there as a netowrk card or something similar04:26
gnomefreak!rootsudo04:26
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ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:26
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ElitePetecan anyone tell me if04:26
loftyprotix, then maybe the solution won't be so hard hehe04:26
ElitePeteATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?04:26
loftyprotix, else I don't think I can help you04:26
protixohh gay04:26
quackergnomefreak, sudo requires some care and skill to run securely04:26
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TirnoI am now more confused than ever. I have succeeded in putting music on my out of the box iPod nano. And yet it appears to have been mounted as vfat. It should be hfsplus. I'm not complaining, but would love to understand04:26
quackerI highly recommend that you man sudoers.list04:26
Viper550Anyone still like Crux (the theme)?04:27
quackerand use visudo to edit accordingly04:27
loftyViper550, I don't like the icons04:27
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eth42Viper550: why are you asking?04:27
quackerprivelege escalation can be trivial with a carelessly configed sudo04:27
Viper550No, I don't like the icons, but the metacity and gtk looks good!04:27
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visik7Hi folks04:28
Stormx2Hey04:28
ardchoillehi visik704:28
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visik7I'm using ubuntu and I've some qt programs with big font size04:28
Blaxterhi04:28
visik7how can I reduce it ?04:28
synmooOn to my second issue: The X server is failing to start, after reading the output, it says a screens were found, but no usable config was found. I remember setting available resolutions at the end of the setup. I kept the default 1024,800,640, but added a check for 1280. Where should I look for the config file or config app?04:29
Blaxterat config system u can reduce or select the fonts04:29
Stormx2visik7: Not sure. Ask in #kde maybe?04:29
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visik7Stormx2: I'm not using kde04:29
eth42synmoo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:29
visik7but gnome with some qt programs04:29
dooglusthat wiki page is wrong.  it says "Enabling the root account ... is not recommended! It will break all the GUI admin tools" - but it doesn't for me.  synaptic still works, I just tried it04:29
synmooeth42: thanks hopefully my issue will be obvious.04:29
Viper550easier way: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:29
Stormx2!xorg04:29
gnomefreakdooglus, its says it will break GUI admin tools04:29
uboturumour has it, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:29
Stormx2Use that04:30
ardchoillevisik7: if you have kcontrol installed, you should be able to change the fonts in that04:30
synmooviper550: thanks I'll try that first04:30
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Viper550Had the exact same problem, and it's not a rumor, it works! Also, do it at a console of course!04:30
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protixanyone else CAN help me04:30
protix?04:30
gnomefreakbut dooglus  i have seen people that cant use thier synaptic after making an su account04:30
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Viper550So synmoo is using irssi, right?04:30
eth42protix: what?04:31
ardchoillegnomefreak: there's no such thing as a su account. Su is an executable that simply allows you to Switch Users.04:31
lennartwhat package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system04:31
protixumm04:31
gnomefreakthe word could or might could have been used since everyones sys is differnet04:31
visik7ardchoille: I don't have kcontrol and I would not install it 'couse 90 mb of space to change a font size is quite stupid isn't it ?04:31
protixi have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?04:31
dooglusgnomefreak: synaptic is a GUI tool which admins the system.  Isn't that what it means?04:31
protixthats what04:31
Viper550If you are using irssi, press alt-f2 and login at virtual console 204:31
naliothgnomefreak: that is because enabling a root accoutn breaks some parts of ubuntu04:31
gnomefreakardchoille, im going from what i see on the wiki it states root account04:31
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ardchoillevisik7: yes, it is. I suggested that because qt is what KDE uses for widgets.04:31
eth42protix: are you sure your USB DSL modem is supported by linux?04:31
remote_hello everyone04:32
protixi guess so04:32
eth42protix: why?04:32
lennartwhat package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system04:32
ardchoillegnomefreak: you already have a root account, but it's disabled.04:32
dooglusgnomefreak: it sounds like a bug somewhere that needs tracking down and fixing.  it's not as simple as "enable root -> break synaptic" because I have an enabled root account and a working synaptic04:32
remote_does anyone know when the GTK2 version of gnucash will be available?04:32
visik7ardchoille: or if you can suggest me an app that do what kdocker does04:32
dooglusis it known what exactly having the root password unlocked breaks?04:32
gnomefreakseeing as there are problly newbies in here im not gonna throw aroung the word root04:32
protix..04:32
ardchoillevisik7: sorry, I don't use any KDE apps :(04:32
protixeth42 : i doesnt know04:33
Viper550So Synmoo, are you ready?04:33
remote_root, like a carrot?04:33
Viper550Root USER04:33
gnomefreakdooglus,  your right it should be "thinking it already has been" tacked and fixed atleast in that persons pc04:33
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fit4lfeis there anyone that can give me some one on one help with chroot04:33
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eth42protix: first I would google for your specific device and linux; if there is a driver for it, you have to find a tutorial for pppoe (if I'm not wrong here)04:33
gnomefreaktracked*04:33
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visik7fit4lfe: what's wrong with chroot04:34
fit4lfeI followed the instructions to a  T and I still get locale errors04:34
ardchoillegnomefreak: why would you want to enable the root account?04:34
remote_fit4lfe - in a terminal type man chroot04:34
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dooglusgnomefreak: I don't understand what you're saying there.04:34
fit4lfeyeah did all that04:34
gnomefreakardchoille,  i dont never did never will04:34
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lennartwhat package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system04:34
ardchoillegnomefreak: ok, my bad04:34
eth42protix: it's probably easier if you could attach your DSL modem with a normal ethernet cable instead of USB04:34
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protixyes i know04:34
protixbut everywhere here is shut04:35
protixxmas04:35
gnomefreaksu leaves it open for way too many issues in any distro04:35
eth42lennart, apt-file will probably answer this question04:35
mcjerryprotix: i told you so hahaha04:35
protix:D04:35
protix=[04:35
visik7lennart:04:35
visik7binutils04:35
gnomefreaksorta like if you used sudo -i and walked away from pc without thinking about it :))04:35
dooglusgnomefreak: it's swings and roundabouts.  su is safer in some ways04:35
fit4lfedoes anyone have a chroot for amd 64 bit04:35
loftyok guys, gotta go04:35
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loftybye04:36
ardchoillegnomefreak: that is true, and that's why I don't use su04:36
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eth42protix: what's the name of your DSL device?04:36
lennarteth42, what is that? I dont have it installed on my system04:36
protixumm04:36
mcjerryeth42 he has a dlink dsl 302g hooked up via usb04:36
protixyes04:36
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markitoxshi there04:37
ardchoillehi markitoxs04:37
eth42lennart: apt-get install apt-file04:37
markitoxsdoes anyone know, how to see e-mail adresses instead of nicknames in gaim 2.0 ?04:37
gnomefreakeverything you can do with su you can do with sudo as for safer i dont see how if i can hack your su or your sudo either one will give me access04:37
protixhttp://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x332.html ?04:37
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visik7markitoxs: is there a .deb for gaim 2.0 ?04:38
lennartthanks04:38
gnomefreakvisik7, no theres a tar for it tho04:38
dooglusgnomefreak: if you use sudo, all I need to know is your user password and I've got root access.  If you use su, I can know your user password and your root is still safe.04:38
eth42protix: quoting dlink.com: "The DSL-302G ADSL Modem that provides both USB and Ethernet connectivity at an04:38
eth42affordable price."04:38
markitoxsvisik7, yep, i found it googling with : gaim 2.0 deb04:38
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markitoxsis one of the frist results04:39
naliothgnomefreak: dooglus everyone else, can we take the su vs sudo talk to -offtopic?04:39
eth42protix: so there is the possibility to use ethernet04:39
visik7markitoxs: thanks04:39
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protixahagf04:39
protixfkn04:39
markitoxsvisik7, :)04:39
gnomefreaksorry nalioth04:39
dooglussure.  I was trying to get to the bottom of this recurring report that "setting root password breaks the gui".04:39
g1powermacHi all04:39
ardchoilledooglus: not true, ever tried: sudo su _04:39
ardchoille*sudo su -04:39
g1powermacanyone know what the boot loader is on the ppc livecd?04:39
dooglusardchoille: if you have sudo AND su then you're doubly vulnerable, of course04:39
eth42protix: quoting www.wlug.org.nz/DSL-302G: "The DLink DSL-302G ADSL modem is actually a router/DHCP-server. What this means is that it is extremely simple to make this modem work with Linux."04:40
ardchoilledooglus: everyone has sudo and su04:40
naliothgentlemen, let us discuss it in -offtopic, we are carrying on quite a bit with the topic now04:40
dooglusardchoille: most people don't have a useful "su" because they don't have a usable root password04:40
eth42protix: what's your problem then?04:40
protixlol04:40
protixwtf04:40
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ardchoilledooglus: you don't need the "root" password to use su.. all you need to do is: sudo su -04:41
protixi been telling u for the last 30 mins mang04:41
eth42?04:41
eth42not me04:41
protixok04:41
protixwatch04:41
mcjerryeth42: he is trying to get it to work with usb and not ethernet, he want's to know if someone can help him hook it up usb04:41
protixyes04:41
protixthanx jerry04:41
mcjerrynp04:41
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ardchoilledooglus: "sudo su -" effectively switches to the root user with the root account variables04:42
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protixhaha04:42
eth42mcjerry: huh, my guess is that it won't work because someone would have to write a driver for it. since there is the possibility to use the device with ethernet, why should someone bother usb?04:42
dooglusgnomefreak: could this be the bug that the wiki is referring to?  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2048104:42
naliothardchoille: dooglus in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:42
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visik7ardchoille: also sudo -i04:43
ardchoillenalioth: ok, will do04:43
mcjerryeth42: in his post he said the stores are closed where he is and he doesn't have an ethernet cable......the usb modem should work as a pppoe connection in linux, but i wouldn't know how to set that up with the modem he has04:43
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protixgay gay gay04:43
fit4lfecan I paste an error that I recieve04:43
visik7fit4lfe: use a pastebin services04:43
eth42hehe04:43
fit4lfewhich one04:43
protix...04:43
mcjerryeth42: if he types 'lsusb' in his linux install, linux is seeing the usb modem04:44
spiregraincharming04:44
naliothfit4lfe: whichever pastebin you like04:44
protixya04:44
eth42mcjerry: but that doesn't mean much does it?04:44
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protixwerd04:44
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eth42mcjerry: I think that every USB device can identify itself but that doesn't mean that there is a driver supporting this device04:45
seatouchwhats the command to change another users pass using root ?04:45
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mcjerryeth42: it means linux and the modem are communicating on some level as lsusb lists his modem......so where i am lost is how does he then establish a pppoe connection with the modem?04:45
protixdis is soo  gayyyyyyyyyy04:45
protixbro04:45
protixwhen i load vmware it works fine :)04:45
protixso it does some how work but when i boot from root with linux it doesnt04:45
protixright jerrY?04:46
mcjerryprotix, vmware is bridging the connection via a virtual network driver to windows04:46
protixmm k04:46
naliothprotix: let us be civil04:46
mcjerrytwo different issues04:46
apokryphosprotix: language, please.04:46
protixlanguage ?04:46
protixenglish04:46
seatouchwhats the command to change another users pass using root ? - does anyone know ?04:46
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/622904:46
apokryphosprotix: using "gay" as a derogatory remark is offensive.04:46
protixahh that word kk my bad.04:46
apokryphossearcher`: passwd04:47
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ompaul!tell protix about gay04:47
ompaulprotix, read the bots message04:47
seatouchapokryphos i need to do it using root :)04:47
Stormx2Yeah04:47
Stormx2this is IRC04:47
protixno s***04:47
Stormx2people get offended for a reason here ;-)04:47
apokryphossearcher`: so use sudo04:47
protixnah this java chat.04:47
protixi never called anyone g**04:47
naliothseatouch: you dont need a root account, sudo can do anything you need04:48
Stormx2You were just saying this was a merry ol' time wern't you?04:48
apokryphos!tell seatouch about sudo04:48
fit4lfeanyone have a clue about that error04:48
seatouchnalioth please tell the command then :)04:48
ompaul!tell searcher` about sudoroot04:48
protixso out of 585 ppl nobody can help me =[04:48
naliothseatouch: sudo -i    then do your business04:48
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Stormx2protix: What was the problem?04:48
Stormx2protix, I only just arrived ^_^04:48
protixahh here we go againnn04:48
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/622904:49
seatouchthanks buddy : nalioth :)04:49
harsszegprotix is ***04:49
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protix"i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?"04:49
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eth42mcjerry: I thought that delivering an id string is part of USB. so it's no surprise to me that lsusb lists the DSL device.04:49
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protix..04:50
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ompaulprotix, so what you do is system administration networking if it is supported then it should show up there if it is internal - if not I have no ideas for you04:51
Stormx2protix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=22918&postcount=504:51
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Stormx2Thats for speedtouch, though04:52
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Barrichellooi04:52
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synmooI'm having an issue getting X to start. (EE) No Devices Detected - Using lspci I see my vid card at 0000:01:00.0 how would I specify this for the Bus ID in my xorg.conf? Currently it is set at PCI:1:0:0. I'm using and onboard agp/igp s3 chipset.04:53
Stormx2Im bored & want to code something for ubuntu >_>04:53
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apokryphosStormx2: consider helping with #easyubuntu ;-)04:54
Stormx2apokryphos: What is it coded in?04:54
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mcjerryprotix: gotta get back to work. goodluck. talk to ya l8tr04:54
protixyeh take care brother04:54
apokryphosStormx2: bash script, but uses python too04:54
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Stormx2Sweet04:54
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Stormx2I know some bash04:55
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apokryphosStormx2: http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/04:55
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dontblinkhi, would anyone know why ubuntu freezes right after its done loading all the devices and synchronizing the clock and stuff?  All I get after that is a black screen with an underscore in the top left.04:55
protixStormx2 : what do u want me to do with that link ?04:55
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christianphi all04:56
avgasseI have an installation problem. I'm doing a server-expert installation on a Toshiba Satellite 4030CDS. The installation freezes in "Configuring apt...", at 25%, with "Checking for CD-ROM..."04:56
ardchoillehi christianp04:56
mrkojedontblink,  does x crash or does your whole system lock up04:57
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synmoodonblink, have you tried looking at other console sessions? (alt-F1, alt-F2, etc)04:57
Enlil_Ishtarhello all04:58
dontblinkmrkoje: it all locks up04:58
Enlil_IshtarI just downloaded (and, I presume, installed) xine-ui from synaptic. But euh... where it is now? How do I run it?04:58
dontblinksynmoo, would i do that right as the loading screen pops up?04:58
UbuntuNewbieHi all!  I have decided to take the plunge and install Ubuntu.  I come from a Windows background, are there any docs around that help introduce how to do things in Linux that you would need to do in Windows (install firewalls, configure devices, etc).?04:59
dontblinkim using the install version, not the live cd, btw04:59
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ardchoilleEnlil_Ishtar: xine should be in Applications -> Sound & Video -> Xine04:59
synmoodontblink, that was just a hunch that maybe x started but hung, if that were the case you might be able to see other ttys. Don't listen to me, I'm a newb too. heh04:59
ompaulubuntulog, not really we don't do the firewall gig - what video card do you have and what way do you connect to the internet05:00
ardchoillesynmoo: actually, that was a good troubleshooting technique05:00
Enlil_Ishtarardchoille> I already looker there, but no, there is no xine :x05:00
Enlil_Ishtarlooked*05:01
benplautwhat do i need to set up a scanner? it's supported (HP PSC 1610), but i'm not sure what libs, utils, etc05:01
gnomefreakUbuntuNewbie,  no need to install firewall it is built into the kernel05:01
naliothUbuntuNewbie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant05:01
ardchoilleEnlil_Ishtar: have you logged out of gnome and back in?05:01
synmooardchoille: I messed around with caldera like 6 years ago. I remember that little tidbit hah.05:01
Enlil_Ishtarardchoille>ah, no. Let's do that =)05:01
ardchoillesynmoo: :)05:01
trappistpacket filtering code is built in to the kernel, but something needs to tell it which packets to filter05:01
ardchoilleEnlil_Ishtar: wait!05:01
Enlil_Ishtar:o05:01
Enlil_Ishtarwhat?05:01
webwolf_27benplaut, sane05:01
ardchoilleEnlil_Ishtar: I have found that opening a term and doing: killall gnome-panel  will reload the menus05:01
synmooarchoille: did you read my message about my X problem? so I repaste it?05:01
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Enlil_Ishtararchoille> ok, thx05:02
ardchoilleyw05:02
benplautwebwolf_27: thanks05:02
dontblinkcould the freezing be a video card/driver issue?05:02
webwolf_27benplaut, np05:02
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Enlil_Ishtareuh...05:03
Enlil_Ishtarah, it's okay05:03
Enlil_Ishtarand xine is where it has to be :DS05:03
Enlil_Ishtar:D*05:03
Enlil_Ishtarthanks a lot ardchoille :)05:03
ardchoilleEnlil_Ishtar: you're welcome :)05:03
synmooI'm having an issue getting X to start. (EE) No Devices Detected - Using lspci I see my vid card at 0000:01:00.0 how would I specify this for the Bus ID in my xorg.conf? Currently it is set at PCI:1:0:0. I'm using and onboard agp/igp s3 chipset.05:04
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doonzhey guys05:04
ardchoillehi doonz05:04
doonzim trying to find an iso of the last ubuntu release hoary is the name05:04
synmoodoonz: check torrent sites?05:05
NeoandiniHi everybody05:05
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henryhey05:05
ardchoilledoonz: the latest Ubuntu release is 5.10 (Breezy). Hoary is the 5.04 release.05:05
doonzyeah05:06
Enlil_Ishtarhan!05:06
Stormx2>.<05:06
doonzbut my brothers computer is still the old release05:06
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doonzand i dont have time to redo it05:06
henryHello everyboby05:06
Enlil_IshtarI selected a video to be read by xine, and.... xine closed :s05:06
ardchoilledoonz: ah05:06
naliothdoonz: cdimage.ubuntu.com05:06
doonzbut i need to add samba to it and i need the disc05:06
doonzthanx guys05:06
protixsoo05:06
doonzi will be upgrading his comp this coming weekend05:06
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protixnobody can help meh?05:06
Stormx2protix; Post on ubuntuforums.org05:07
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Stormx2protix: Giving your modem, etc05:07
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ardchoilleprotix: ubuntuforums.org is awesome :)05:07
protixreally05:07
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henryHello Ladies05:07
protixbut i do not no what to post really05:07
henryAny nice lady in here?05:08
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naliothhenry: you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic05:08
spiregrainsearch for previous posts made by other folks05:08
Epix_Hey, any good network games in ubuntu (think lan parties)05:08
henryno just joking.I am tried of man05:08
henryMerry x-mas05:10
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ardchoilleUbuntu ROCKS!05:10
henryNalioth,how do you spend ur christmas holiday?05:10
naliothhenry: you should ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:10
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Epix_?05:10
henryHow do things work here.05:10
henryI never did this before.05:10
naliothhenry: this is a help channel, not a chat channel. for general chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic05:10
Epix_henry: if you are on topic, talk. if not, leave for #ubuntu-offtopic05:11
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Enlil_IshtarWhen I install codecs, they are used by every multimedia player on my computer? Their aren't reserved for only one or two of them I suppose?05:11
Epix_is there a linux port of farcry05:11
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henryok,thanks05:11
hxkohHello05:11
dbernar1do you ahve to have a root account enabled for samba to work properly?05:11
hxkohcould someone help me out?05:11
naliothEnlil_Ishtar: they should be usable by all the players05:11
bkwAre there any good tools for writing DVD discs else than k3b?05:11
naliothdbernar1: no you do not.05:11
Enlil_Ishtarmalioth>ok tx05:11
hxkohI've just completed installation for Kubuntu, what should I do now?05:11
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hxkohi know there ar eseveral other thing sto install, but how and what I am clueless05:11
ardchoillebkw: graveman?05:12
naliothhxkoh: at your login screen, click 'sessions' > 'kde'05:12
hxkohalso, I can't seem to locate KDE Control Center05:12
dbernar1nalioth: even for nt domain setup, or are you just talking about file and print sharing?05:12
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naliothhxkoh: you might ask in #kubuntu05:12
bkwardchoille: do you think it's better than k3b?05:12
naliothdbernar1: you dont need root for anything. sudo works fine05:12
CioNhey how do i use flwm?05:12
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dbernar1nalioth: you know about nt domains, though, right?05:13
henryHow do i chat in here?05:13
ardchoillebkw: actually, I use cdrecord and have never used k3b, but graveman is a nice gui burner05:13
gnomefreakhenry,  use the keyboard05:13
naliothhenry: you type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and chat in there05:13
gnomefreak:)05:13
bur[n] ergnomebaker is nice too05:13
CioNanyone here uses other window mangaer than nautilus?05:13
ardchoillenalioth: lol05:13
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bur[n] ernautilus isn't a window manager05:13
bur[n] erCioN: metacity is a window manager05:13
naliothdbernar1: i havent used windows or had a windows machine in my house in years, so i'm kinda lost. but sudo will do anything you need05:13
CioNsorry metacity05:14
bur[n] erCioN: in that case, yes ;)05:14
bkwardchoille: is writing(burnproof) dvd images made easily with cdrecord?05:14
CioNi'd like to get my desktop lighter05:14
CioNany advice?05:14
bur[n] erCioN: xubuntu-desktop05:14
dabaRnalioth: how do you append to a file with sudo? is it an option with tee?05:14
CioNxfce?05:14
bur[n] erCioN: yep05:14
ardchoillebkw: I don't know, I don't use DVD's, maybe man cdrecord has some useful info05:14
naliothdabaR: sudo -i gets you a superuser shell. have fun05:14
gnomefreakyes CioN05:14
jhaigCioN: twm?  :-P05:14
CioNdoes it have good support ?05:14
naliothubotu: tell CioN about xubuntu05:14
bur[n] erCioN: define support?05:15
naliothCioN: yes, the support is the same as for kubuntu or ubuntu05:15
CioNlike i need gnome to run xfce corrrectly right?05:15
gnomefreakubotu tell bkw  about cdrecord05:15
dabaRno05:15
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gnomefreakthan dont tell him :(05:15
jhaigOK, I have now tried to install 3 times, with different partitioning, and each time it fails on reboot with a "crc error" but no more information.  Does anyone have any idea what may be wrong?  Or how I can find what might be wrong?05:15
naliothCioN: no xfce4 is its own DE05:15
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CioNoh cool05:16
CioNso i can uinstall gnome??05:16
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dabaRCioN: or use openbox for your wm, even inside gnome. search the forums for "openbox stormy"05:16
mjrCioN, wouldn't recommend it, many applications depend on gnome05:16
protixhelp..05:16
naliothCioN: if you like, you may do anything05:16
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CioNdabar opnebox is wmanager?05:17
dabaRya05:17
TuxOtakuquestion...i have a lexmark Z705 Printer, where can I find a stable driver for it...the only thing i found is an HQX for Caldera OpenLinux05:17
dabaRubotu: tell CioN about windowmanagers05:17
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Enlil_Ishtarhmm... I play a video with xine, and it works fine, the first 6secs. Then, the sound goes away.... -_- why?05:18
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NoWhereManI don't know what happened05:19
NoWhereManehm05:19
NoWhereMansorry05:19
NoWhereManHi everybody05:19
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NoWhereManmerry xmas (late) and happy new year :)05:19
Stormx2Merry christmas to you too05:19
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NoWhereManwell05:20
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NoWhereMannow, the question :D05:20
NoWhereManI don't know what I did05:20
bleswindows 4 evah05:20
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NoWhereManbut now when I click in Synaptic05:20
_mikewhy can i not unrar certain archives?05:21
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nalioth_mike: install 'unrar-nonfree'05:21
NoWhereManthe settings > Packages Repositories (sorry localized version here)05:21
_mikei did05:21
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_mikeit says it won't unrar it05:21
nalioth_mike: then the archives may be damaged05:21
NoWhereManthis just refresh the list as in edit > refresh05:21
NoWhereManalso, the update manager icon near the clock doesn't popup its window anymore05:22
_mikeit does it with all of my archives05:22
NoWhereManso the add application in Application menu05:22
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NoWhereManand i noticed the Device Manager, too O__O05:22
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NoWhereManactually many gnome apps... plus synaptic O_O05:23
NoWhereManwhat's up?05:23
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ardchoilleNoWhereMan: you seem to be naming apps, but what is the actual problem? Do they all crash? Do they all set your house on fire?05:24
Enlil_Ishtarlol05:25
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NoWhereManardchoille: lol, no they just don't show up they silently fail05:25
NoWhereManexcepted synaptic05:25
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NoWhereManthat have this strange behaviour when i click on settngs > package repository (or archive) same as edit> refresh Oo05:25
ardchoilleNoWhereMan: run them from a term and see if there is any error output05:26
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NoWhereManok, let's see05:27
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EricCartmanpreinstallation script of .deb package fails, how can I debug this ?05:28
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protixhelp..05:28
naliothubotu: tell protix about anyone05:28
protixlol05:29
protix"i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?"05:29
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NoWhereManardchoille: acc, you're right: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/623105:29
_mikeare there any applications that would convert a rar archive to a zip archive?05:29
_mikeunrar-free seems to be broke05:30
nalioth_mike: dont use unrar-free, use unrar-nonfree05:30
_mikewhere can i get that sir05:30
nalioth_mike: in the universe repository05:30
nalioth_mike: while you're at it, enable the multiverse repo, too05:31
Enlil_Ishtarhmmm05:31
naliothubotu: tell _mike about repos05:31
protix..05:31
Enlil_IshtarI can listen a mp3 with xmms without any problem05:31
Enlil_Ishtarso, the sound problem doesn't come from the computer05:31
protixu said ask my question05:31
protixand u aint even helping?05:31
Enlil_Ishtarmayve from xine, maybe from the video... :s05:31
Enlil_Ishtarmaybe*05:31
naliothprotix: i dont know, but i DO know the ".." and "help.." are not valid questions05:31
naliothubotu: tell protix about repeat05:32
protix?05:32
Mabus06quick sort of off topic question: ATI X700 Pro or Geforce 6800?05:32
naliothMabus06: nvidia05:33
NoWhereManardchoille: what do you think I shoul do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/623105:33
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ardchoilleNoWhereMan: it appears to me that you are missing something, but I am not sure what that is. I would post this info and that output to ubuntuforums.org.05:34
NoWhereManacc05:34
NoWhereManstrange libcairo is installed Oo05:34
EricCartmancome on ? no idea how to find out what's wrong with a preinst script of a deb pacage ?05:34
naliothEricCartman: it's probably a bad script in the pkg. what pkg is it?05:36
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EricCartmanno the pcakage is OK, mysql-server-4.105:36
EricCartmanI've installed mysql-5 from dotdeb05:36
Enlil_Ishtar(same problem with gxine. I also tested with another video)05:36
EricCartmannow I'm trying to downgrade05:36
_mikewill those repositories work with breezy05:36
EricCartmanwell, it did work05:36
naliothEricCartman: ah, now i see.05:37
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naliothEricCartman: you'll need to downgrade all the depends, too, i think05:37
EricCartmanpreinst script has stop_server in it05:37
Enlil_Ishtararf, gaim goes away without any reason :o05:37
Enlil_Ishtargaim close, actually, and I don't know why :s05:38
simontempleonko suomalaisia paikalla?05:38
bkwhttp://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ explains that I should "sudo apt-get install wine winesetuptk"   but I get an error "05:38
bkwThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:38
bkw  wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed05:38
bkweps: Broken packages"05:38
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Enlil_Ishtarwhich codecs do you suggest me to install, if I want to play some *.rmvb?05:39
KyralI don't even know what .rmvb is05:39
Enlil_Ishtarlol05:39
Enlil_Ishtarit's a video file format05:39
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Enlil_Ishtarjust as *.avi05:39
Kyralyah but what does it MEAN?05:40
rabbitwhat's the easiest/best way to update firefox?05:40
Kyralrabbit: to 1.5?05:40
Enlil_Ishtarah.... dunno05:40
naliothrabbit: wait for dapper05:40
rabbitKyral: yeah05:40
Kyralrabbit: It won05:40
bkwmhm, nobody who knows how to get wine going?05:40
simontemplevak juu05:40
Kyralwon't happenm on Breezy05:40
rabbitnalioth: what's dapper? the next version of ubuntu?05:40
Kyralrabbit: and I will tell you WHY05:40
naliothrabbit: correct05:40
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rabbitKyral: whaat?05:40
Kyralrabbit: A lot of packages depend on Firefox for HTML rendering, CSS, etc. So upgrading Firefox touches more packages than you would think05:41
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spiregrainhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  <-- here's how05:41
yccheok_hi, any gnomebaker here? i have a non empty (but still lot of free space, not finalize) DVD, however, gnomebaker not allow me to burn any more file in it05:42
rabbitKyral:  so I shouldn't touch it?  just wait for the ubuntu update?05:42
naliothrabbit: you can do what you like. you asked for the 'easiest' way05:42
Kyralrabbit: you can...install alongside the Breezy Firefox05:42
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KyralPersonally I use Epiphany05:42
yccheok_several small file inside the DVD is burned by using gnomebaker last time. now, i cannot insert file anymore05:42
simontemplehow can i update Ark? I need to extract rar files.05:42
naliothsimontemple: install unrar-nonfree05:42
rabbitKyral: arg..  I shouldn't update firefox?05:43
simontemplehow?05:43
naliothsimontemple: use synaptic05:43
Kyralrabbit: that method will basically put two versions of Firefox on your system05:43
rabbitKyral: the link spiregrain gave says it's not recommended, (as you said, it breaks some things)05:44
Kyralrabbit: yah05:44
rabbitKyral:  so I'll avoid it05:44
Kyralrabbit: unless there is some killer thing you need in 1.5, I'd stick with 1.0.705:44
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Kyral!info firefox dapper05:45
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu9 (dapper), Packaged size: 7677 kB, Installed size: 22732 kB05:45
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Kyral!info firefox breezy05:45
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB05:45
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rabbitKyral: when you update ubuntu it updates firefox?05:46
notecan a noobie get some help?05:46
simontempleim total beginner with linux05:46
Kyralrabbit: yah05:46
notek05:46
Kyralin April05:46
simontemplebut i like it :D05:46
Kyralsimontemple: learn the power of the command line :D05:46
noteif you didn't set a sudo password in the installation what is it?05:47
rabbitKyral: is there a difference between windows and linux firefox profiles? can I migrate my windows profile to here?05:47
naliothnote: if you ask a question05:47
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Kyralrabbit: I don't know I haven't touched windows in over 6 months05:47
spiregrainnote - blank, I think05:47
naliothnote: sudo uses YOUR password05:47
Kyral!sudo05:47
naliothspiregrain: sudo uses the USERs password05:47
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Kyraldamn bot05:48
simontemplethat's what i have to do......05:48
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mirakj'encule les mouches05:48
naliothrabbit: you can, but there is a bit of work to it05:48
Kyraltell note about sudo05:48
simontemplei'm really not sure how.....05:48
Kyralubotu tell note about sudo05:48
noteall who helped:thnx05:48
Kyralsimontemple: whats the problem?05:48
Epix_grr, i start quake3 and my mouse is stuck in the right hand corner. it worked before!05:48
rabbitnalioth:   is there any help pages on doing that?05:49
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KyralSomeone should write a script lol05:49
rabbitnalioth:  what about extensions?  are linux extensions different?05:49
Kyralrabbit: some of them are05:49
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simontemplei don't know how and where to start.........05:49
Kyralrabbit: mainly if they interface with a windows program05:49
Kyralsimontemple: gimme a sec05:49
naliothrabbit: the extensions are the same, if you search mozilla forums there is a howto on bringing the profile over05:50
notedid any one else have aa yaboot problem when trying to install to a external drive (usb)05:50
Kyralsimontemple: I wrote a thread about Terminal For Beginners05:50
Kyralsimontemple: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7388505:50
simontempleok05:51
KyralActially I have to write something about redirection and the all powerful sed05:51
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spiregrainsed++05:52
beetlefroschhi05:52
rabbitnalioth:  I can't find it..  do you know where on mozilla forums?05:52
Kyralsed++; sed++ "D05:52
Kyralno wait05:52
naliothnote: yaboot won't work with external drives at this time05:52
Kyralsed *= sed05:52
naliothrabbit: i'm looking05:52
Kyralwanna see how to changeover a Hoary Sources to a Breezy Sources with one command?05:53
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yccheok_how i can check which process is occupied my cd rom? coz i cannot eject my cd rom, i wish to kill tat process05:53
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notenalioth:  figured that out after some browsing. but can use my 250 gb drive for program installation or something? As it is just going to waste if I don't use it05:54
Kyralsudo sed s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list05:54
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rraajjyccheok_: Try "eject".05:55
KyralTell me what ain't cool05:55
naliothnote: yes you can use external drivers for everything BUT your / filesystem05:55
naliothnote: er, drives05:55
Kyrals/what/that05:55
ardchoilleKyral: wouldn't that be sudo sed 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:55
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Kyralardchoille: I dunno///05:55
Kyralardchoille: I know that g matches more..05:56
Kyralmaybe05:56
ardchoille;)05:56
Kyralbut still a one command to changeover a sources.list :D05:56
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rabbitnalioth: what do you think of this:  http://sillydog.org/netscape/kb/linuxwindows.html05:57
ardchoilleKyral: true, that is cool :)05:57
naliothrabbit: http://www.google.com/search?q=moving+mozilla+profiles&ie=UTF805:57
Epix_help! quake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...05:57
notenalioth: thnx at first I was gonna compile my own kernel but I am new and well don't really even know whata  kernel is (I  have basic Unix on os x via x11 knowledge)05:57
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ompaulnote, a good idea is to get it working before you break it and understand what is doing what05:59
naliothrabbit: the article you posted is kinda old05:59
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Epixhelp! quake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...05:59
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rabbitnalioth: do you think that would work?  that's better than copying, it would be the same bookmarks and stuff for both win/linux!05:59
rabbitnalioth:  except, ntfs is read only : (05:59
noteompaul: I have ubuntu installed on my internal drive but it nly has 15 gb left05:59
rabbitnalioth:  nevermind06:00
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naliothrabbit: try it (back up your good profile first) and if it works, great!06:00
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MickMcMackEpix, asking the question twice wont get it answered quicker. :s06:00
rabbitnalioth:  I don't think it can work, only for fat maybe06:00
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klaymhello! I just burnt a Breezy Badger cd and I'm now still in Hoary. How can I check that the install cd is valid for sure?06:00
naliothrabbit: check the link i sent you06:00
naliothubotu: tell klaym about verify06:00
EpixMickMcMack: i wasnt sure if the first one went through, i wasnt identified06:00
note(I only gave it 20 gb06:01
klaymnalioth: thanks (and to ubotu)06:01
MickMcMackO_o;06:01
rabbitnalioth:  thanks, I'll do some reading here06:01
eriscoI have this strange thing going on... It seems after every time I edit or move a file there is an identical file made with a ~ after it. For example, if I edited index.html, there would be that file plus index.html~06:01
naliotherisco: that is a backup copy06:01
eriscothis is not good when I am uploading, as I do not want these ~ files06:01
erisconalioth, i was guessing so06:02
erisconalioth, how do i remove this feature? or disable it?06:02
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naliotherisco: use a different editor06:02
erisconalioth, so it is the text editor that is doing that?06:03
trappistor just echo "set nobackup" >> ~/.vimrc06:04
eriscoAh, I found the setting06:04
eriscothanks nalioth, I thought it was ubuntu doing it on me, not the editor06:04
naliotherisco: i use nano in a console06:04
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erisconalioth, I also use joe06:05
Epixcan skulltag be 'wine'ed06:05
erisconalioth, pico is good too?06:05
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digger3Hi, My gnome applications menu closes so quickly I cannot click on any application, any fix for it?06:05
erisconalioth, I would rather the gui over the command line myself06:05
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naliotherisco: nano is a open source version of pico (which is non-free)06:05
erisconalioth, ah I see06:06
naliotherisco: there are dozens of gui text editors06:06
erisconalioth, I am fond of the text editor, I even just found a great tool for my web developement06:06
erisconalioth, it can number the lines for you, which is great when validating!06:06
eriscoanyways, c ya all. Have a good holiday season06:07
naliotherisco: there are even more specialized text editors (like bluefish)06:07
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pussfellerdo i gotta reboot windows to make it see changes in samba shares?06:07
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raptoidhawe a nice night06:08
raptoidmanzzzzz06:08
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pussfellerand whats the command to check manually what my shares are and if they are working06:09
raptoidpussfeller, what problem ?06:09
pussfellermy shares arenet showing up in windows, it keeps saying network is unreachable06:09
pussfellerbut it shows the host In NN06:10
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visik7I'm using ubuntu with gnome and I've some qt programs with big font size how can I resize it ?06:15
simontemplehow can i find terminal???06:16
spiregrainvisik7 - get qtconfig06:17
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simontemple=command-line06:17
notehow do I get mp3's to play06:17
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spiregrainsimontemple- Applications/Accessories/Terminal06:17
noteor podcasts06:17
ph8note: which program?06:17
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ph8amaroK is a really nice MP3 player (although strictly speaking it's for KDE)06:18
naliothsimontemple: applications > accessories > terminal06:18
ph8it'll run fine via gnome if you don't some extra crap being started06:18
noteph8:  am looking for a program06:18
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ph8the default ubuntu one is a bit naff if memory serves06:18
Owner@note - try using Automatix, search ubunruforums.org for Automatix and it will install mp3 support06:18
ph8apt-get install amarok06:18
ph8or find it in Synaptic06:18
visik7spiregrain: yes while waiting for an answer I found it :)06:18
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ph8Does anyone know if the latest ATI cards (X300s) are now supported with fglrx? I Know they weren't about 3 months ago..06:18
noteph8: I like amarok but it doesnt usually fit with my theme06:19
simontempledamn i've got finnish version of ubuntu06:19
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ph8Mplayer?06:19
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visik7spiregrain: is there something like qtconfig for gtk ?06:19
spiregrainhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <---- mp306:19
Enlil_IshtarI've a problem06:19
ph8you can define a custom colour scheme in amarok options also06:19
naliothsolcott: please dont recommend automatix, it's not responsible and will break your box06:19
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nalioth!automatix06:19
ubotuhmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT! For a safe alternative, see easyubuntu (http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/ )06:19
raptoidmay i help u06:19
Enlil_IshtarWhen I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, there is sound only the first 3 or 4 seconds, and then, no more sound :x06:19
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spiregrainvisik - you mean a gtk program that modifies the look of qt programs?06:20
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ph8what's automatix?06:20
naliothph8: a script that breaks your system06:20
visik7spiregrain: no06:20
visik7spiregrain: :)06:20
ph8so i hear, but what's it meant to do?06:20
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visik7spiregrain: a program that modify the look of gtk programs06:20
solcottI used it to install the non-free codec's, and I have nothing broken06:20
NoWhereManspiregrain: but if you know of something able to do that tell me, that I'm interested :)06:20
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Enlil_Ishtarnobody can help me?06:21
spiregrainvisik7- in ubuntu, System/Preferences/Theme can do it06:21
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naliothsolcott: you are either lucky or the hammer hasnt dropped yet.06:21
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spiregrainNoWhereMan- never heard of such an app!06:21
solcott@ph8, it automates installing a bunch of things, like the newest firefox mplayer plugin for firefox non-free codecs WINE etc etc06:21
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solcott@nalioth, maybe I am lucky, but I have installed on over 100 machines and none of them have problems :)06:22
NoWhereManspiregrain: that's a pity :P i used to have gtk-qt on mandriva; i'd have liked having a qt-gtk on ubuntu :p06:22
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simontempletakkar och pokkar06:23
naliothsolcott: please don't recommend it in here, we've had over 100 users in here who've been screwed by it06:23
solcott@nanlioth, eek!06:23
naliothsimontemple: english please in here06:23
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simontempleokey humbly i thank everyone who helped me! :)06:24
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Nevishi there.06:24
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Nevisi need help with installation.06:24
Spudchathow do i check what version of a package is installed?06:24
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apokryphosSpudchat: dpkg -l|grep packagename06:25
Spudchatty06:25
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visik7spiregrain: yes but I'm lookin' for a standalone program so if I'm in a kde environment I can adjust gtk programs06:25
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cliebow_ anyone up on twekaing Xsession or anotherfile to add extra cmdline options in kdm?06:26
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spiregrainvisik7- you could just run "gnome-theme-manager" from a terminal.  or a kterminal, or whatever06:26
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visik7spiregrain: yes but I need some gnome packages06:27
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notek. I am a newbie and I am not sure whether to use gnome, xfce (I have it installed) or KDE06:27
Spudchatim trying to pin a package and it would appear that the installed vesrion and the version the system wants to upgrade to are the same..any ideas?06:28
ardchoillenote: you should try them all and see which one works best for your needs06:28
NevisI'm a newbie wannabe, and I need some help with installation. anyone keen on helping me?06:28
naliothnote: use them all, and keep on using the one you like the best06:28
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notek06:28
naliothNevis: ask a question to the channel06:28
SWATwhen I connect to a bluetooth device, should it popup somewhere as a mount? (so how can I get to it?)06:28
NevisI installed ubuntu 5.10, installation hung up mid-way06:28
NevisI can login, but can not start x06:29
ph8Does anyone know if the latest ATI cards (X300s) are now supported with fglrx? I Know they weren't about 3 months ago..06:29
Nevissomthing with apt-configuration (I THINK) is wrong06:29
ph8Nevis: what do the error logs say?06:29
ph8/var/log/anythingthatlooksapplicable06:29
ph8and maybe dmesg06:29
SWATNevis, when did it 'hung up' ?06:29
ph8i believe there's an xorg.log06:29
Nevisafter I set up the system clock06:29
Nevissaid "setting up main installation repository"06:29
Nevis25% done06:30
Nevisthen stuck.06:30
noteare you trying to put it on a external drive06:30
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Nevisdoesn't respond except for reset.06:30
Nevisnope. local06:30
Nevisthird partition after two primary ntfs partitions with winxp installed.06:30
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Nevismobo is an nforce206:30
NevisABIT06:30
Nevisif that's at all relevant.06:30
notethen I can't help my local install went fine06:30
Spudchatallright guys thanks for all the help06:31
Spudchati got it workin well now06:31
mike__is it difficult to upgrade to the newest ubuntu06:31
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mike__from hoary06:31
apokryphosmike__: no, very easy06:32
apokryphos!upgrade06:32
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:32
bluefoxicydapper has been rather quiet the past few days. . .06:33
bluefoxicynobody's uploading anything?06:33
noteis their a way to no destrucivly partition a drive?06:33
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bluefoxicynote:  gparted if you're lucky, from a livecd06:33
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naliothnote: use gparted06:35
I_Am_hey how do i change an ini file06:35
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I_Am_it only lets me view it06:35
I_Am_i suspect its got sumtin to do with sudo06:35
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synmooI'm having an issue getting X to start: (EE) No Devices Found - Using lspci, I've found my video card to be at 0000:01:00.0, how would I set this inside my xorg.conf? Currently, BusID is PCI:1:0:0 but that isn't working. I'm using an onboard AGP/IGP S3 chipset. Anyone have any ideas?06:36
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optikalIf I want to add a script to be ran before the fstab is inititiated, what runlevel should I specify when adding to /etc/init.d/?06:37
ROBOdhey guys06:37
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ROBOdi got motv ... and there's an error when  try to start it: libXm.so not found06:37
ROBOdwhere to get it from?06:37
optikalI know 2 is most common, so Im also curious if runlevel2 scripts are ran prior to the fstab..06:37
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Stormx2Uhg. Any tips on resizing NTFS partitions?06:38
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talonanyone know a good guide for setting up a new monitor with ubuntu, i added a modeline to xorg.conf and ran xresprobe (blank result) and i'm stuck now06:40
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talongot a old 20" as a crimble present :)06:41
mike__this upgrade is going fairly well06:41
ROBOdi have scantv .... and it asks me for /dev/vbi ... what is it?06:41
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squirrelpimphi06:42
ROBOdanybody? ...06:43
I_Am_help06:43
I_Am_i need to change windows boot.ini file and gedit only lets me read it06:43
squirrelpimpi'm looking for a webcam-application capable of launching a user-supplied coimmand on the image after capturing it.06:43
squirrelpimpany suggestions?06:43
I_Am_how do i get gedit to change and save the file?06:43
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apricothello, i used the code from faq site but there is missing an > in the next statement, please, help!!06:45
apricot>06:45
apricotAlias /URL-path /location_of_folder/06:45
apricot<Directory /location_of_folder/%gt;06:45
apricot    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks06:45
apricot    AllowOverride All06:45
apricot    Order allow,deny06:45
apricot    Allow from all06:45
apricot</Directory>06:45
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trappistapricot: a) don't paste here.  b) replace %gt; with >06:46
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trappistit was probably supposed to be &gt;, which would have been htmlized into a >06:47
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naliothapricot: did we not ask you not to paste in here yesterday?06:47
trappistif so, I recant my helpfulness06:47
squirrelpimpanyone here knowing such an app?06:48
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mike__when's the new ubuntu getting released06:48
mike__what's it called?06:48
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talonhi guys, can anyone point me to a good guide for setting up resolutions for my monitor, i followed the one on the site with no luck. Got a 20" for crimble and it isn't really an upgrade as i'm now stuck in 800x60006:49
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beetlefrosch#loeblich06:49
trappist!tell talon about fixres06:49
naliothmike__: ubuntu releases every 6 months in april and october06:49
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mike__talon: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
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braniffhow do i boot 5.10 (breezy) into recovery mode ??06:49
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mike__Seveas is my hero06:50
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talontrappist: & mike__: thanks alot guys i'll give that a spin, very kind of you06:50
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ROBOdi got motv ... and there's an error when  try to start it: libXm.so not found... where to get it?06:51
Enlil_IshtarWhen I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, there is sound only the first 3 or 4 seconds, and then, no more sound :x06:53
ph8Anyone think it's possible to reiser my partition from ext3 without losing any data or will I need to back it all up offsite?06:53
mike-e=o06:53
Enlil_Ishtaranyone can help me?06:53
naliothubotu: tell Enlil_Ishtar about sound06:53
Enlil_Ishtarok ^06:54
naliothph8: why you'd want to go to reiser is beyond me, but back up your stuff06:54
Enlil_Ishtar^^*06:54
trappist<3 reiser06:54
mike-eph8: i'd back it up06:54
mike-ereiser is the fs for solaris right?06:54
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naliothmike-e: you can use it here, too06:54
trappistno06:54
ph8I was under the impression reiser is the most elite FS out there06:55
ph8why wouldn't I want to change to it?06:55
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mike-eheh06:55
ph8no.. really06:55
ph8:)06:55
mike-eyou gonna drink jolt cola whilst compiling shit on that fs?06:55
tmortonHow can I extract the files in a deb?06:56
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ph8A chap I know heard i was using ext and was mortified06:56
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trappistph8: that's the word hans reiser puts out there.  I like it fine but I don't believe everything hans says about it.06:56
mike-ehe's a moron then06:56
ph8So its not quicker and just generally better than ext3?06:56
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trappistph8: it wastes less space than ext3 and is faster if you have zillions of small files06:56
mjrit's not generally better06:56
ph8I see06:57
mike-ei'm getting a lot of locale errors during this hoary -> breezy upgrade, is that typical?06:57
ph8so it's a good bet in your opinion(s) to stay with ext3?06:57
naliothmike-e: language please06:57
mjrfor reliability, I'd pick ext306:57
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ph8Ah ok, cheers06:57
ph8my hoary -> breezy upgrade was a nightmare06:57
ph8probably because i was uninstalling kde at the same time06:57
mike-emaybe i'l just grab an iso06:57
trollduckynalioth, it seems you need a script06:57
trollduckydag*^#$t06:57
trollducky;-)06:58
ph8Here's an interesting problem: Whenever I plug in my printer /dev/usb/lp0 (printer) is set to a set of permissions/ownership that stops me using it unless I 777 it, anyone else had this problem?06:58
mike-ei have ran into problems with perl and locales on debian sarge too tho, this seems to be the same error06:58
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trollduckytrappist, I hate #*^$ing Reiser06:58
trollduckyand not just under krnl 2.4.806:58
trollducky(the FS, not the man, of course)06:58
trappisttrollducky: you're allowed to hate it06:59
trappistI hate xfs06:59
Enlil_Ishtarnalioth> well, this help seems to apply if I have no sound at all. But I have sounds. The Ubuntu sounds, I can listen to a *.mp3, and I have sound at the begining of the video (and then it become mute)06:59
mike-ejeeze, anyong get a bunch of locale errors when upgrading to breezy?06:59
naliothtrollducky: trappist: a forest awaits in #ubuntu-offtopic06:59
mike-enalioth, lol06:59
trollduckytrappist, I've never actually used xfs, what differentiaties from everything else?06:59
naliothEnlil_Ishtar: your sound server needs tweaking, read all the info at the wiki07:00
trollduckyoh, shee-oot -- sorry -- wrong window07:00
mike-enalioth, that's the funniest way of calling someone a troll i've ever heard07:00
Enlil_Ishtarok07:00
trollducky<-- mike-e07:00
ph8Sorry for the multitude of questions but how would i go about updating the kernel to the latest everytime without specifying 2.6.18 or whatever - i heard there was a way to do it, is it apt-get install linux-686?07:00
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ROBOdguys ... i see the tuner image in vlc and in xawtv ...07:01
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mike-emozilla pisses me off with these profiles crap07:01
ROBOdbut ... in xawtv i can't change the frequencies in a proper way ...07:01
notesry but closed the main amarok window and cant get it back07:01
ROBOdmeaning: they have predefined tables for countries07:01
naliothph8: your box will update to the latest kernel by itself07:01
trappistph8: I believe it's apt-get install linux07:01
ph8nalioth: hmmm07:02
aidehuatrollducky: use ext3! http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/reiserfs.html07:02
ph8i have 2.6.12 and .10 installed i think07:02
trollduckyaidehua, I do -- almost exclusively07:03
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ROBOdi can't get it to scan all frequencies (only with scantv ... which doesn't find any channel)07:03
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visik7can someone send his menu.lst of the standard ubuntu install ?07:03
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ph8mine didn't update, it appears 2.6.12-10 is out and i have -907:03
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notenvm07:04
naliothph8: that sounds weird.07:04
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Enlil_Ishtarhow to restart the sound server?07:04
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notewhy wont amarok play07:06
notei have a podcast lloaded mp3's can play but  hear nothing07:06
BoogymanIm using a laptop and I am trying to permanantly disable the touchpad when I start I have tried the stuff on the forums I have no ability to disable the pad from the bios this command works: sudo modprobe -r psmouse but I have to do it every time I start the computer is there a way to make a hotkey to do it or to have it auto run?07:06
ph8note: firewalls?07:07
notei dled the podcast already07:07
ph8You can definitely make it autorun boogyman07:07
ph8I don't even know what a podcast is, i'm a bit behind the times - i assumed it was steaming audio07:07
trappistBoogyman: just take psmouse out of /etc/modules07:07
ph8* streaming07:08
notewell07:08
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optikalIf I want to add a script to be ran before the fstab is inititiated, what runlevel should I specify when adding to /etc/init.d/? (or does runlevel 2 get initiated before fstab?)07:08
noteit isnt but the way it is dled is streaming07:08
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Boogymangoing to try that thank you trappist07:08
noteoff a rss server and a rss feeder can intercept it07:08
ph8surely if fstab isn't loaded you couldn't access the filesystem?07:08
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optikalph8: haha good point.  I need to run a script (dmraid) to activate my raid, and then I need to mount my raid after the script is ran..  how would you recommend going about this?07:10
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mike-ewhoever told me earlier that upgrading from hoary to breezy was blatently wrong07:12
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ROBOdhow to check if i have bttv driver installed?07:13
kemikmike-e:  was wrong about what?07:13
trappistROBOd: modprobe -la | grep bttv07:13
ROBOdi have in Device Manager BT878 Video and Audio devices07:13
ROBOdtrappist: yes, thanks, i got it07:14
tuvhow do i upgrade the ipw2200 drivers? there is no ipw2200-source package07:14
mike-ekemik, about it being simple07:14
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kemikah07:14
Viper550Hi again ev1!07:14
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Viper550I run KDE 3.507:15
ROBOdtrappist: the fact I see the TV noise in vlc when selecting the /dev/video0 via v4l ... does mean the tuner is properly installed and working?07:15
tuvcan i use debian's ipw2200-source package?07:15
Viper550I also have transparent menus!07:15
trappistROBOd: probably means you need to change the channel07:15
ROBOdtrappist: i know that :)07:15
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tuvdo i have to worry about removing the existing ipw2200 kernel modules before installing the new ones?07:16
ROBOdtrappist: now ... i got xawtv ... it also shows me the TV noise ... but ... the TV channel scanning does not work properly07:16
Viper550Is there any channel for Gnome here?07:16
ROBOdtrappist: i am in Romania ... and the channels table is different07:16
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naliothViper550: you are in it07:16
trappistROBOd: what's your input source? maybe you need to change the channels on that07:16
Viper550this is Ubuntu, not Gnome!07:16
mike-erofl07:17
Viper550nm, just figured it out!07:17
ROBOdtrappist: is there a way to change the frequency manualy?07:17
Viper550irc.gnome.org07:17
mike-esee you in 2 seconds viper07:17
mike-ehaha07:17
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trappistROBOd: I've never used bttv.  my card is ivtv.  but I'm sure it's in the docs.07:17
ROBOdtrappist: which docs? :)07:17
trappistthe bttv docs07:17
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ROBOdinput source is television .. input device /dev/video007:18
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ROBOdi don't know them :)07:18
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ROBOddoing modprobe bttv shows nothing07:19
ROBOdis that normal?07:19
trappistthat's a good thing.07:19
trappistyeah.07:19
trappistROBOd: check dmesg07:19
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trappistBoogyman: how'd it go07:19
Boogymandidn't work its still working when pc starts07:19
ROBOdtrappist: thanks07:20
Boogymanshould I annotate it out with # or was I suppose to erase it from there completely07:20
ROBOdtrappist: is there a way to nicely change frequencies in vlc?07:20
Boogymancause I just did the #07:20
ROBOdbecause i have to always restart the playback ... to change freq07:20
mike-eBoogyman, commenting what out07:20
trappistBoogyman: I don't know if it gets loaded by hotplug, but if it does you can add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:20
trappistROBOd: I don't use vlc either :)07:21
ROBOd:)07:21
mike-evlc is unstable imo07:21
mike-ecompared to totem07:21
Boogymank will try that now07:21
ROBOdtrappist: what app do you use?07:21
trappistmplayer07:21
ROBOdfor TV??07:21
trappistyeah07:21
trappistmplayer /dev/video007:21
trappistbut my source is cable, so I have to change channels on the box.07:22
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Mchashi xubuntu is not yet out  as an image iso  ?07:22
Boogymanwould I just put: psmouse07:22
Boogymanin the blacklist07:22
Mchasplease07:22
Surakcrimsun: there?07:22
mike-ecan i install ubuntu from a floppy disk over a network07:24
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naliothubotu: tell mike-e about smartboot07:24
pramzhello everyone07:24
ROBOdtrappist: i also have motv ... but i can't start it ... because it asks for libxm.so07:24
Boogymantrappist do I just ad the line in the blacklist file07:25
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ROBOdtrappist: any idea where to get it from?07:25
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visik7how can I run flash player with esd ?07:25
visik7esddsp firefox doesn't work07:26
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mike-ewtf07:26
mike-erawwrite is a windows application07:26
Mchasso the only way for the moment is to install it with xfce ?07:27
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mike-eMchas, what07:27
tRSSquick question. whenever I try to run a win32 app with cedega, i get this error: /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: can't exec 'notepad': invalid exe file07:27
tRSScan someone help me with this?07:28
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trappistROBOd: lesstif-dev07:28
trappistBoogyman: yeah07:29
Stormx2hola07:29
Mchasofficial xubuntu is not yet out ?07:29
naliothMchas: install "xubuntu-desktop"07:29
ROBOdtrappist: thanks07:29
Stormx2sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop07:29
Stormx2;-)07:29
naliothMchas: it is out, but not as an iso image yet07:29
Mchasok its just only my question and i have my answer ...thanks07:29
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Lord_Athurhi there07:29
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mike-ewhat's xubuntu?07:30
mike-e!xubuntu07:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu07:30
mike-eohhh NICE07:30
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mike-ethat is sweet07:30
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Aphex11hi, could ANYONE please help me installing FIREFOX on my ubuntu linux? (i am a newbie)07:31
Stormx2XFCE is lightweight gnome, kinda07:31
naliothAphex11: it should be there already07:31
Lord_Athuri'm adding the squashfs patch to the system, how much time does this need to be added to the kernel?07:31
mike-eStormx2, hardly07:32
trappistLord_Athur: as much time as it takes to patch, recompile, install and reboot07:32
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trappistLord_Athur: assuming you get it all right the first time07:32
Lord_Athurmmm07:32
spiregrainaphex11 - try the "Add Applications" menu item.07:32
Enlil_Ishtarnalioth> I did every changes that the wiki told me, but... :s07:33
biruhhello all!! how can i play mp3 in ubuntu? am kinda new. thanx07:33
spiregrainThere is currently no official way to get Firefox 1.5 at the moment07:33
trappist!tell spiregrain about mp307:33
Lord_Athurbye07:33
Enlil_IshtarActually, the sound goes in and out "randomly"07:33
Aphex11spiregrain.... I did but it dosnt UPDATE my firefox (1.0.7 to 1.5)07:33
spiregrainoi! don't tell me, tell biru!07:33
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Enlil_Ishtarsmetimes I have sound... sometimes not.. :x07:33
trappistoops07:33
trappist!tell biruh about mp307:33
Boogymanok testing it out again and thank you for advice so far trappist07:34
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Enlil_Ishtaranyone have codecs to recommand me if I wanna play some *.rmvb?07:34
visik7is there a way to get flashplayer plugin working with esd ?07:34
Aphex11Spiregrain, does that mean that FIREFOX 1.5 is currently not available for Linux or Ubuntu Distros ??07:35
visik7Enlil_Ishtar: w32codecs or just use vlc07:35
spiregrainAphex11- There is currently no official way to get Firefox 1.5 at the moment... but see here for something that might work for you:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:35
Enlil_Ishtarvisik7>okay07:35
trappistAphex11: it just hasn't been packaged for breezy yet, but you can install the mozilla.org tarballs07:35
psusiAphex11: firefox 1.5 is not officially supported in ubuntu breezy badger... it will be in dapper drake07:35
visik7easyBreesy has ff 1.507:36
mirakRemoving cupsys-driver-gimpprint invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "force-reload" failed.07:36
mirakdpkg: error processing cupsys-driver-gimpprint (--remove):07:36
visik7easyBreezy has ff 1.507:36
trappistAphex11: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:36
spiregrainI'm using ff 1.5 just fine, following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:36
mirakI want to remove it, that's on a dapper secondary install. I just want to know how to force the remove, I tried --force-all07:36
mirakdoesn't work07:36
Aphex11thanks trappist07:37
Aphex11thanks Spiregrain07:37
visik7mirak: do u have removed the init.d script by hand ?07:37
mirakvisik7: no07:37
mirakvisik7: I can't install nor remove07:37
mike-eis there a linux port of WoW?07:38
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visik7u can't 'couse postremove and preinstall scripts fails07:38
Aphex11but this wont happen on SuSe , right ? Yast will install everything effortless right ?07:38
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mirakvisik7: beside doing a clean install what option do I have ?07:38
koroHi. I just installed ubuntu but my audio device wasn't detected. Can someone point me to a howto or a faq to deal with that?07:39
naliothAphex11: you're limited by the suse devs as you are by the ubuntu ones07:39
Aphex11coz since i am THAT new i was thinking to start on  sUSEand not on ubuntu...its getting kinda hard here07:39
korothe device manager shows two unknown PNP devices07:39
Stormx2mike-e: it is really.07:39
visik7mirak: investigate the script07:39
mirakvisik7: I am in a chroot, can this be a problem ?07:39
spiregrainI don't know Yast, but I guess, like Ubuntu, each application will have to get added to the Yast system as it comes out07:39
visik7mirak: no07:39
Aphex11ohh... so what would be a good start for me ? .... stay on win ? lol07:39
naliothAphex11: ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. you can't say that with any other distro07:40
Aphex11ohh this is an ubuntu chan..i forgot... its not forbidden to talk about opther alternative distros, right ?07:40
ilba7raphex depend what you want to do with your pc07:40
spiregrainso you've gotta wait (sometimes several months) for each new version to get added in07:40
paulproteus|laptnalioth: I thought Fedora did that, too.07:40
visik7mirak: check /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.<postinst|prerm|postrm>07:40
naliothpaulproteus|lapt: i think fedora has a lot longer release schedule07:40
paulproteus|laptAphex11: Not forbidden, no.07:40
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flodinehas anyone loaded pekwm on ubuntu07:41
Aphex11ilba7r:  It just want to see if i can get rid of windowse without starting to miss it...you know dont want to be stuck with windoze.... after all that LINUX RULES articles i read07:41
Aphex11thanks paulproteus|lapt07:42
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ilba7raphex11 have a look at distowatch. It has nice recommendation depending on how you use your pc. MEPIS come with lot of restricted (property) software preinstalled you might try that but do some research07:42
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avgasseI installed Ubuntu with the server install, and it didn't ask me for the root password. So what is it/how can I change it?07:42
naliothAphex11: you can dual boot until you see that windows is no needed07:42
paulproteus|lapt!tell avgasse about root07:42
naliothavgasse: ubuntu doesnt have the root model of superuser07:42
trappistAphex11: there's some work and some learning to do before dumping windows forever.  spend some time getting comfortable with linux, then see if you can go a week without windows.  then a month.  then reclaim the disk space used by windows.07:42
JRlinuxWarning:  Latest Ubuntu automatic upgrade on my 5.10 installation replaced my Grub, thereby losing my Mepis Partition!07:42
theeilhow would i go about getting an intel pro/wireless 2915ABG card working?07:42
Aphex11i read about ubunto onm distrowatch.... i felt that would be the Dsitro which should fit my needs07:42
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naliothubotu: tell theeil about wireless07:43
avgasseAh ok... but on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu I read that I have to do "sudonano/etc/apt/sources.list"07:43
jordo23Anyone know the .deb repository link for Azureus?07:43
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naliothavgasse: sudo uses the users password07:44
Aphex11nalioth, thanks but i didnt wipe my windoze on my main pc ...this ubuntu pc is my testing pc...07:44
naliothubotu: tell jordo23 about azureus07:44
ilba7rjrlinux it is not lost just edit /boot/grub/menu/list and remount it again07:44
Aphex11trappist, yeh you are right..thats what i was planning to do07:44
avgassegee thanks a lot!07:44
naliothAphex11: good then. perhaps one day you can have ubuntu on all your PCs07:44
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Aphex11i certainly hope so....07:44
JRlinuxilba7r, I am doing it... (but it is a nuisance, nonetheless).  Oh, well, I keep learning.07:44
dylan_i did the upgrade to Firefox 1.5....i installed mozilla-mplayer and the w32codecs.  however, whenever i go to apple trailers to watch a movie, the browser quits and firefox is gone.  i have to bringi t up again.  what do i do?07:45
ilba7raphex11 with linux you will always need to read and customize to your needs. You need to do a little work with restricted formats with ubuntu07:45
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Aphex11nalioth, i just read something in here which reminded me of another question i had. Why wasnt i asked for a root password while installing? how can I access ROOT? wasnt allowed to login ass root on graph interface.. and where is  Konsole ? its kinda difrent from other distros i have seen before...07:46
naliothdylan_: the apple codecs currently used are not viewable, iirc07:46
naliothubotu: tell Aphex11 about root07:46
naliothAphex11: read the Whole wiki article please07:46
dylan_nalioth, that really sucks07:46
Aphex11i will... thanks man07:47
naliothdylan_: thank apple for qt707:47
visik7ok solved the problem with flash07:47
Enlil_Ishtarhan07:47
Enlil_IshtarVLC refuse to read the video I want :s07:47
Aphex11ilba7r, thats what kept me away from linux os's07:47
P8ntKid_How do you change the language in limewire? Somehow it got changed to french or something and i dont know how to change it back.07:48
Aphex11ppl ill be reading all your articles, thanks for help ill come back in 30 min07:48
Aphex11thx !07:48
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mirakvisik7: it's to muich broken07:49
mad_phoenixhas anybody been able to succesfully set up freenx on ubuntu?07:49
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visik7mirak: sorry ?07:50
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naliothubotu: tell mad_phoenix about freenx07:50
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dylan_why arent there any linux viruses/spyware/07:53
trappistthey exist07:53
trappistit's hard to make effective ones though07:53
trappistbecause everybody doesn't run around as root all the time07:53
dylan_can i secure windows 2000 to be like linux?07:53
trappistdylan_: wrong channel07:54
DRK13no bylen07:54
DRK13dylen07:54
dylan_DRK13, its dylan07:54
DRK13lol  sorry07:54
dylan_its fine07:54
DRK13cant type today07:54
dylan_where cani  go to learn about securing windows07:54
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trappistdylan_: google.com07:54
mirakvisik7: it's broken somewhere else07:54
dylan_i mean, i want it secure like linux...unless linux isnt secure by default07:54
mirakvisik7: don't know how to fix that07:54
MFencan anyone suggest an efficient replacement for the X protocol, compatible with existing gui software, and available in ubuntu?07:54
psusitrappist: and in general, linux software doesn't do stupid things like download and run untrusted binary code when you read your email...07:54
dylan_is linux secure by default07:54
mirakvisik7: freenx07:55
MFeni'm trying to run X programs over what is right now a lossy connection, and it's painful07:55
mirakvisik7: sorry wrong nick07:55
naliothdylan_: yes it is.07:55
Surakdylan: you are comparing too different stuff. in fact, windows 2000 is still being maintained?07:55
trappistMFen: a replacement for the protocol?07:55
mirakMFen: freenx07:55
MFentrappist: something more efficient07:55
mirakMFen: google NX07:55
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MFenmirak: any quick howtos on getting that to work w/ ubuntu?07:55
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trappist!tell MFen about freenx07:55
chemaFPA_ Hi, Whe you download a Deb from de web, there are some way to install thath resolving the dependencies automatically?07:55
mirakMFen: google ubuntu freenx07:55
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mirakMFen: #freenx07:56
MFenmirak: teh awesomes. thanks :)07:56
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naliothchemaFPA_: it is not advised to install 'debs from the web'07:56
mirakMFen: I know there is ubuntu howtos07:56
MFeni'm on freenx07:56
alvansonHow do I tell Ubuntu to NOT load the agpgart module?07:56
MFenthere's nobody here07:56
dylan_nalioth, so if linux is secure, why are there all these guides on the internet showing us how to secure linux?07:56
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naliothdylan_: because everything can be made MORE secure07:57
alvansonit's not listed in /etc/modules so I'm lost :(07:57
erosgolwhats a good text editor to write HTML in?07:57
naliothdylan_: and a lot of those guides are for server implementations07:57
dylan_nalioth, is there any really any reason to?07:57
MFenmirak: does this work with a windows client?07:57
naliotherosgol: bluefish07:57
psusierosgol: I like emacs07:57
naliothdylan_: the default install of x/k/ubuntu is quite secure07:57
erosgolthanx )07:58
dylan_nalioth, how can i secure ubuntu more?07:58
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omerlhHello07:58
naliothdylan_: idk. i've never needed to07:58
MFendylan_: in general it's not an OS that's insecure so much as the software that's running there07:58
Weissalvanson: the Quick and Nasty way would be to rename the module itself07:58
trappistdylan_: set up firewalls, disable password authentication in ssh, stop unneeded daemons for starters07:58
MFendylan_: you want to limit your exposure to buggy, insecure software.  you do that by shutting down as much unnecessary software as possible :)07:59
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MFendylan_: there's also a few kernel things you can do etc.07:59
omerlhI want connected my lap top to T.V. I installed atitvout, and it work but I have problem with vbe. What can I do?07:59
dylan_MFen, but its not practical?07:59
MFendylan_: it's very practical.  taking a few precautions will make any system a lot more secure07:59
naliothdylan_: most of your efforts for a default install will be wasted08:00
MFenyou cna't make anything completely secure without unplugging it from the wall and turning it off. but you can make it so expensive to crack that nobody will wnat to08:00
trappistdylan_: security is almost always a tradeoff.  almost anything you do to make your box more secure will make it less usable, slower or less stable.  if security came in a bottle, microsoft would sell it.08:00
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alvansonWeiss, how about the not so nasty way? ;)08:01
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erosgolis there an rpm for bluefish ubuntu dist?08:02
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Seveaserosgol, ubuntu does not use rpm08:02
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Seveaserosgol, apt-get install bluefish08:03
erosgolreally?08:03
synmooIs there a reason the KDE packages aren't showing up in synaptic? I reloaded the package information.08:03
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olicathi all. can i install ubuntu on a machine with no cdrom over the local network?08:03
Unityhey, how come when i do rm *~ and then it asks me to confirm that i want to delete something, and then i hit y, it doesn't desete?08:03
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kbrooksHey08:03
DRK13soup08:03
kbrooksCan anyone help me?08:03
olicatie, tell the client to boot using the cd in another local machine?08:03
spiregrainkbrooks- don't know yet08:03
Unityand when i do sudo apt-get install whatever, and it asks me something, and i press y, it aborts?08:03
Kovecses!w32codecs08:04
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:04
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spiregrainUnity - could be the file dosen' belong to you08:04
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spiregraintry with "sudo rm *~"08:04
mirakcrap I did a rm -fr /dev08:04
Weissalvanson: build a new kernel and module set with the agpgart stuff firmly turned off... i don't know of a way to do it via modules.conf et. al., but there could well be..08:04
kbrooksSee, I have this microsioft ps/2 mouse. When plugged in, and I move the mouse, IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL08:04
Unityspiregrain, they all belong to me and that doesn't explain why apt-get aborts08:04
trappistalvanson: you could always delete the module08:05
darkuserhello08:05
naliothkbrooks: you know how it works in here, ask your question08:05
Kovecseskbrooks, do other mouses work?08:05
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darkuserhelloooooo08:05
trappistkbrooks: try `modprobe psmouse`08:05
Weissalvanson: but if just delete the module or move it to somewhere it can't be found, then run "depmod", you'll end up with the same Nice solution..08:06
darkuseryou mast08:06
mirakI did a mount --bind /dev somethingelse/dev08:06
MFenmirak: little snag. the wiki there gave me something to put in sources.list for the freenx package for breezy. however that archive isn't responding.08:06
mirakhow to unmount it ?08:06
erosgolheh no wonder y it doesent use yast08:06
darkuserkesssss08:06
darkuserhyarr08:06
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MFennm, found the faster mirror08:06
mirakMFen: don't know08:06
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spiregrainUnity- dunno then08:07
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jspamok. im having some difficulty getting ubuntu running on my external hdd. it boots and starts to load the kernel but then says: ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!08:08
kbrookstrappist, no08:08
kbrooksKovecses, yes08:08
Kovecseskbrooks, so other mouses work???08:08
delltonyhi can someone kindly help me in resizing my linux partition so i can give a few gigs too windows? i can't seem to do it in parition magic cause it says the whole linux partition of 46 gig is used which is far from true. and I tried gparted but it appears you can't resize an active partition . :( i'm lost08:08
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naliothdelltony: do it from a LiveCD08:08
Kovecseslivecds are best08:09
kbrooksKovecses, yes08:09
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trappistdelltony: you need to umount the partition.  if you can't because it's your root partition or something you'll need to do it from like a livcd or rescue disk.08:09
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MFenargh!08:10
kbrooksKovecses, well? i have to spend time with my sister08:10
MFenthis wiki doesn't say how to *run* the server portion :)08:10
kbrookshello?08:10
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jspamplease pm me if any of you know how i can get /dev/sda1 to show up during the boot. don't want to get it lost in the chat if im not looking. :)08:10
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MFendoes anyone here use freenx? it's pretty opaque08:11
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trappistjspam: breezy? dapper?08:11
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mad_phoenixMFen: ya, im trying to set up freenx right now as well08:11
pawjan#palm08:11
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MFenmad_phoenix: what are you looking at for reference?08:12
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MFenthe wiki doesn't say how to run a server, just how to install one08:12
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mad_phoenixMFen: the wiki page, hang on i'll grab the link08:13
kbrooksKovecses, well, i was waiting08:13
mad_phoenixMFen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX08:13
MFenmad_phoenix: yeah, i'm already looking at that08:13
kbrooksKovecses, me? stupid? how?08:13
MFeni have freenx and its dependencies installed on the server, and the windows client is installed08:13
MFenbut no hint as to how to make the server do anything useful08:14
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naliothKovecses: let's be civil please.08:14
naliothkbrooks: you too. civility.08:14
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kbrooksk08:14
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kbrooksbrb08:14
Kovecseshey hes the one who shot me .... lol08:14
kbrookse-mail: cmpfixer@hotmail.com08:14
jeanmarc_jjjjjgjgjghggggggg08:14
kbrooksKovecses, dude08:14
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kbrooksKovecses, i'm in a bind08:15
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zelevwHi guys...I just installed 3ddesktop and i'd like to use it...i've done a search (find / -name 3ddesktop) and cannot find an executable...can anyone lend me a hand?  thanks in advance!08:15
Kovecseskbrooks, about your mouse? ... if other ps/2 mouses are working .. i dont know how or if you can get that microsft one to work08:16
MFenzelevw: i don't know the specific answer, but what i generally do is 'dpkg -L 3ddesktop | grep bin'08:16
MFenand, if necessary, 'man' on the things that turns up08:16
zelevwMFen: thank you08:16
mad_phoenixMFen: what's the problem you're having?08:16
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MFenmad_phoenix: there's nothing in init.d for freenx, and nxserver wants some option that i can't guess08:17
MFenand there's no man page08:17
zelevwMFen: thanks again...that worked...brilliant!08:17
MFenzelevw: yw08:17
MFenzelevw: in some cases you want dpkg -L | grep init.d08:18
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zelevwMFen: Kewl08:18
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mad_phoenixMFen: what option?  i just got mine to work, so i can tell you what i have08:18
JRlinuxOK, I want to edit grub and replace-- the one that the auto upgrade damaged.  I am in Ubuntu now, but how do I get the permission to do that?08:18
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MFenmad_phoenix: please do :)08:18
MFenjust tell me how you ran it for starters08:18
ilba7rjrlinux sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:20
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mad_phoenixMFen: what is the option that you don't know what to choose?08:20
JRlinuxok ilba7r .  Thanks.08:20
MFenmad_phoenix: try running "nxserver"08:20
e-fonz.08:21
MFenmad_phoenix: i don't know how to start this thing.. at all.  i don't even know if i found the right executable.  there's nothing in init.d.  there's nothing on the wiki that says what to do, except it's somehow related to ssh08:21
mad_phoenixMFen: when you installed it, did it show you a blue ncurses screen and ask you what kind of authentication you wanted?08:22
MFenyeah, and i picked the default like the wiki said08:22
Kovecses!dapper08:22
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake08:22
Kovecsesi thought the next version was flight?08:22
MFenmad_phoenix: shouldn't there be some sort of daemon running?08:22
mad_phoenixMFen: ya i mean i don't have any init.d entries for it either, but it's running...i think it may run on top of the ssh service08:22
mad_phoenixMFen: try using nxclient and connecting to your own machine08:23
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mad_phoenixlike, do the /usr/NX/bin/nxclient08:23
kakeidoes any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?08:23
mad_phoenixand connect to localhost08:23
MFenmad_phoenix: the client's running on windows, so i'm trying that08:24
Kovecses!backports08:24
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports08:24
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enohow do I go to firefox 1.5?08:24
Kovecsesdownload it08:24
mad_phoenixMFen: but you can at least try to localize the problem, because if you can connect to your nxserver locally you know it's up08:24
enowith apt-get?08:24
Kovecsesjust get it from the website08:25
Unitydoes old xbox use tcp to communicate over a network?08:25
naliothubotu: tell eno about firefox1508:25
mad_phoenixMFen:  it may turn out to be a problem with your ssh server, or your settings in the windows client...it took me a bunch of tries to find the right settings on the windows nx client08:25
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enothanks NALIOTH!08:26
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MFenmad_phoenix: well something seems to be happening08:26
kbrooksKovecses,08:26
e-fonzany1 have experience with par2 on ubuntu?08:26
MFen"setting up the x environment"08:26
kbrooksflight cds08:26
kbrooksnot08:26
kbrooks"ubuntu flight"08:26
MFenmad_phoenix: does this part normally take forever?08:26
naliothe-fonz: yes ask your question08:26
Kovecseskbrooks, ive been on gentoo for too long08:26
marc_Can someone help me with the Cedega mouse problem (with world of warcraft).  I have been trying the workaround but they're not working08:27
mad_phoenixMFen: it depends...i don't know, it's all kind of flaky, i just played with options in the client and it started working08:27
kbrooksCan someone help me, please?08:27
crimsunmarc_: are you using 5.0.3?08:27
JRlinuxAh, my Mepis is back... Beware of upgrades!  (Still have the Ubuntu, and still learning about it.)08:27
MFenmad_phoenix: well it's just sitting here "setting up"08:27
e-fonzOK, i installed par2 on my ubuntu-linux......can't see it in a menu though. I am a complete noob at LINUX08:27
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naliothe-fonz: it is a console only program08:28
Kovecsese-fonz, whats par2?08:28
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crimsunKovecses: apt-cache show par208:28
kbrooksSee, I have this microsoft ps/2 mouse. When I plug it in, upon moving of the mouse, the cursor does not move08:28
dbernar1I am trying to set up a windows domain using samba, and I am unable to add computers to the domain. Is anyone knowledgeable about this?08:28
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mad_phoenixMFen: so you're looking at a black screen, you already got past authentication and everything?08:28
Kovecseswell i could have done that in the first place... i thought maybe somebody could just tell me08:28
MrJangleshello08:28
e-fonzpar2 repairs corrupted files you downloaded with bittorrent or usenet08:28
MFenmad_phoenix: it asked for a password, which i put in08:29
MFenit's not a black screen, i'm running the windows client08:29
crimsunkbrooks: do you have a ps/2 -> usb adapter?08:29
MrJangleslooking for some help... i updgraded to breeze, and i'm getting an X server error08:29
MFenso there's a little gui dialog with an animation playing and it says it's setting up the x environment08:29
MFenit's been doing that for a few minutes now08:29
kbrookscrimsun, other  ps/2 mouses work.08:29
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crimsunkbrooks: have you confirmed that the hardware (mouse) itself is functional?08:30
psusigood lord!08:30
MFenmad_phoenix: when you're using it, does anything show on the server up when you do ps axw | grep nx ?08:30
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kbrookscrimsun, how?08:30
MFenbecause i have nothing08:30
e-fonzoops, meesed up a bit08:30
crimsunkbrooks: another computer and/or another OS08:30
kenkkuI'm making a shell script and I need to insert my password there for it to work (after sudo so I don't have to do it myself), any way to make it not watchable?08:30
Kovecseslol08:30
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Kovecsespsusi, thats impressive08:31
kbrookscrimsun, i only use the cli on arch. don't want to install gpm08:31
mad_phoenixMFen: no, nothing shows up08:31
MFenmad_phoenix: weird08:31
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MFenwhat the heck is it supposedly talking to then?08:31
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trappist7zip?08:31
mad_phoenixMFen:  let me tell you what client options im using...i've got desktop set to unix, gnome, under the advanced tab i've got ssl encryption enabled...08:31
Kovecsesbrb08:31
crimsunkbrooks: that doesn't preclude testing on other machines.08:31
mad_phoenixMFen:  i guess that's about it08:32
MFenok08:32
MFeni checked the ssl flag08:32
e-fonznalioth, how can i select you to talk to you?08:32
jspam!nickserv08:32
mad_phoenixMFen:  are you using openssh?08:32
ubotujspam: What?08:32
e-fonzlol08:32
crimsuntrappist: the p7zip package08:32
MFenmad_phoenix: openssh is installed08:32
naliothe-fonz: you can join #kubuntu-offtopic08:32
mad_phoenixMFen: you might want to confirm that you can connect to your ssh server from windows08:32
kbrookscrimsun, i dont have other machines. the only other computer is not owned by me, and its locked by a bios password08:32
mad_phoenixusing telnet or something08:32
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MFenok, the only change i needed to make was the ssl check, and i'm getting the same thing. "setting up the x environment lalala"08:33
jspamwas trying to register a nick so i could send a pm to someone who asked me what version of ubuntu i was using.08:33
crimsunkbrooks: makes troubleshooting difficult, eh?08:33
naliothubotu: tell jspam about register08:33
mad_phoenixMFen: and this is local, right?08:33
MFenmad_phoenix: i can. i use it all the time. i set up freenx on the server via ssh :)08:33
kbrookscrimsun, very.08:33
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sara_hello08:33
mad_phoenixMFen:  how frustrating08:33
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MFenmad_phoenix: however it's anyone's guess whether the freenx client is actually running an instance of ssh that was installed on my machine08:34
kbrookscrimsun, can you help still?08:34
MFenmad_phoenix: i didn't find anything that said "please install teh ssh first!!11"08:34
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sara_i was installing kde multimedia package through kpackage and it automatically started removing kde components , and a bunch of key stuff, now konqueror is gone etc08:34
MFenmad_phoenix: that suggests freenx/windows comes with an ssh client08:34
enoI will wait for the new firefox to show up on my updator08:35
sara_is thete anyway without reinstalling kbuntu i can save my system?08:35
MFenmad_phoenix: did you have to restart sshd?08:35
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dbernar1sara_: install kubuntu-desktop08:35
dbernar1I am trying to set up a windows domain using samba, and I am unable to add computers to the domain. Is anyone knowledgeable about this?08:35
sara_ok08:35
ajs`hey, how stable is dapper?08:35
mad_phoenixMFen:  i actually restarted the machine, but logging out/in would probably accomplish the same08:35
sara_it took adept also08:35
MFenlogging out wouldnt' restart sshd08:35
kbrookssara_, be serious08:36
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kbrookssara_, do you actually *think* it did that?08:36
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MFencrap. this is frustrating. i can't even tell *if* it's communicating with the server08:36
sara_it removed sevral files08:36
Kovecsesdoes anybody know a way to constantly set dma on ... for a cdrom drive?08:36
sara_apollon, adept, konqueror08:36
Kovecsesgnome 2.12 is pretty sexy08:36
myckethello, i want to (cross-)compile programs for m68k. could not find a gcc-m68k package. Is there a gcc for other architectures?08:36
naliothubotu: tell Kovecses about dma08:36
darkuserh08:36
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mad_phoenixMFen:  yes i agree, i have no idea really how this protocol works without any daemons/services running08:37
Kovecsesnalioth, thanks08:37
sara_is there a deb package for kbuntu-desktop?08:37
naliothmycket: search at packages.ubuntu.com08:37
naliothsara_: there is. but it's a meta-pkg08:37
Kovecsessara_, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:38
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ajs`how many of you use the dapper release?08:38
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darkuserhello grls08:38
darkuserand guys08:38
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Fadeis there a howto on how to keep the nice bootup sequence when running with nvidia-kernel accelerated X server?08:39
MFenmad_phoenix: i'm trying to do this through openvpn. i think i'll try it directly on a different machine08:39
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Kovecsesajs`, i stick with stable08:39
naliothdarkuser: this is a help channel, not a chat channel, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic08:39
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trappistFade: 'nice bootup sequence'?08:39
Fadethe nvidia framebuffer module conflicts with nvidia's binary agp module.08:39
Kovecsesthey have alot of ubuntu stuff on gnome-look.org08:39
mycketnalioth, i've already been there. theres only for MC 68HCxx (forgot ist) and PDA. I need something for 68000 family08:39
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Fadeyeah, with the good looking 'ubuntu' graphic, and the terminal messages in the window below it.08:39
ajs`yeah, its tempting to upgrade though08:39
mad_phoenixMFen: ya, i think you may need a special package that provides tunnelling support if you're going to use vpn08:39
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mad_phoenixMFen: one of the people who keep apt-get repos had some packages for tunneling08:40
araHi , i'm pertty new to linux can someone help me please?08:40
Mabus06with what, ara?08:40
naliothara: if you ask a question08:40
MFenmad_phoenix: well one thing at a time. i'll see if i can get it connected first08:40
Kovecsesara, ill help08:40
trappistFade: oh, that.  I don't know.  I have noticed that nvidia's framebuffer module sucks pretty bad, and causes hard lockup sometimes when switching vc's.08:40
mad_phoenixright on08:40
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sara_when i go to reinstall any of the packages kpackage removed, i get a lot of dependency errors08:40
Mabus06Kovecses, don't sign yourself up for something that may be bigger than you can chew. ;-)08:40
arahow can i log in as root?08:41
Mabus06You don't need to08:41
KovecsesMabus06, im no noob08:41
naliothubotu: tell ara about root08:41
Fadedoes the default X setup just use the vesa framebuffer?08:41
crimsunFade: usplash doesn't use rivafb08:41
Mabus06!sudo08:41
naliothFade: it does not.08:41
Fadehow does it work?08:41
Mabus06Kovecses, doesn't matter... her problem may be complex.08:41
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crimsunFade: uplash or the default X setup?08:41
koroplease, i need help :(08:42
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Fadewell, usplash.08:42
Mabus06Kovecses, if you can solve *any* problem, I have a few questions. ;-)08:42
crimsunFade: it uses vga16fb08:42
arai'm trying to install the yahoo msngr, it tells me that i need to log in as root08:42
Mabus06Do "sudo" before the install command08:42
naliothara: gaim doesnt work for you?08:42
Mabus06sudo does a command as root08:42
koroI chose the language to be english in ubuntu (breezy badger) but i want to be able to type things in spanish08:42
aragaim?08:42
FadeI wonder if the vga16fb conflicts with the nvidia accelerated binary driver.08:42
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arawhat's that?08:42
koro(i chose my spanish keyboard)08:42
Fadethanks for the pointer. :)08:42
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sara_ara try amsn for linux or kopete08:43
naliothara: gaim is a chat client that accesses yahoo, msn, icq and others08:43
korobut apparently it doesnt recognize properly the spanish characters like accents08:43
crimsunFade: it doesn't08:43
Mabus06gaim uses yahoo, msn, and more, ara08:43
korowhat can i do about it?08:43
Fadecrimsun -- wicked. thanks.08:43
Mabus06ara, gaim is installed default on ubuntu... look under applications > internet08:43
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araok , wait08:43
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NoWhereManhi all08:43
Mabus06happy holidays08:43
Kovecsesi have no sound in totem?08:43
dbcaloinstalled ubuntu breezy badger on a external hdd. getting /dev/sda1 does not exist after the kernel starts to boot. anyone know how to fix this? (was previosly suing the nick 'jspam')08:43
Mabus06Kovecses, killall esd then try again08:44
Fadehrmn.. speaking of nvidia-kernel-source... which pool is it in?08:44
trappistdbcalo: usb hard drive?08:44
dbcaloyes08:44
crimsunFade: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:44
NoWhereManmany gtk apps give me this  error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6231 does anybody know how to fix it?08:44
sara_if i redownload the kbuntu cd  is there anyway to save my files and rescue my kde files that kapackage removed?08:44
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dbcaloshows up as a regular hdd in the bios.08:44
trappistdbcalo: you're going to need to hack your initrd to load sd_mod, usb-storage and things like that.  it's not going to work out of the box.08:45
conrad_k3b doesn't support avi files?08:45
Kovecsesconrad_, what do you mean?08:45
Kovecsesconrad_, you can burn them08:45
koroPlease, how could I make my ubuntu work with spanish characters?08:45
UbuntuNewbieI am downoading the Ubuntu CD ISO.  I want to install as a dual boot under Windows XP.  I have read the WindowsDualBootHowTo at the wiki.  Is there anything else I need to know before I take the plunge and install?08:45
trappistdbcalo: if it looks like a regular hdd in the bios, does it show up in linux as a regular ide hard drive?08:45
conrad_tried to burn some avi files that i downloaded from an ftp site08:45
XenguyHi - I am looking for nVidia driver help.  I have tried the nvidia 'BinaryDriverHowto', but this causes my box to freeze-up when booting into X.  I was told that I should install the 'non-free' drivers if I want 3D, so I guess my first question is: should I be apt-getting nvidia DEBs, or should I be installing nvidia's "official" drivers?08:45
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KovecsesUbuntuNewbie, you have windows already installed?08:46
dbcalotrappist, shows up as an scsi during the installer.08:46
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delltonyhi all08:46
sara_ubuntu use partition magic on the windows side than install using ubuntu cd on the remauning space.. its simple08:46
trappistXenguy: I use nvidia's drivers, but the debs are supposed to be fine08:46
UbuntuNewbieYes Kovecses08:46
delltonycan someone help me please in resizing my linux/windows partitions08:46
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KovecsesUbuntuNewbie, and you have a spare partition for ubuntu08:46
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conrad_kovecses: using k3b i opened a new project and wanted to drag my avi files to burn to cd08:47
delltonyi have tried gparted and even tried part magic for some reason i can not resize the linux partition says all 46 gig is used and i know it isn't08:47
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Xenguytrappist: did you follow the 'BinaryDriverHowto' on the wiki?08:47
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conrad_kovecses: says it only supports mpeg08:47
trappistdbcalo: the problem is that the modules necessary to mount a usb drive are on the filesystem and not in the kernel or the initrd, so it wants to mount the root filesystem to GET those modules, but of course it can't.  an alternative solution would be to build your own kernel with all that stuff built in.08:47
Kovecsesconrad_, oh your trying to make a vcd08:47
UbuntuNewbieNo I thought the installer would do that for me first, according to the wiki article.08:47
trappistXenguy: no, I've been using nvidia drivers for a long time, so I just did it the way I've always done it.08:47
calamaridelltony: e2fsck doesn't report any problems?08:47
naliothdelltony: did the livecd not do it?08:48
arahey i worked , thank you08:48
KovecsesUbuntuNewbie, yeah it can... i think......08:48
arait08:48
Xenguytrappist: can you tell me how you did it, or give hints/pointers?08:48
conrad_kovecses: yes, vcd aguess08:48
dbcalotrappist, can i build one from the command line it dumps me to?08:48
naliothUbuntuNewbie: the installer will allow you to make some space08:48
Mabus06Is it possible to have ubuntu installed on a usb drive?08:48
conrad_kovecses: don't have dvd burner08:48
calamaridelltony: sorry if that was already asked.. just came in :)08:48
trappistXenguy: I installed the kernel headers (sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`), downloaded the drivers from nvidia's site, and said sudo sh NVIDIA*08:49
Fadeheh. I'm not used to all this click'n'drool stuff. ;)08:49
crimsundbcalo: if you're comfortable adding the necessary modules to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and then regenerating it, that's the method.08:49
Kovecsesconrad_, vcd's only support mpeg... but if you want to burn just the avi.. if your dvd player supports avi just burn as data cd... or you could use tovid to convert the avi to vcd08:49
delltonyok so d i need to use the live cd08:49
trappistdbcalo: oh, goot point.  no.08:49
trappistdbcalo: but if you have another box you can build it there.08:49
aracan someone tell me what is an x-window?08:49
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irpyChello08:49
delltonysee here is the deal i thought id never use windows again which i very seldom do and i gave it a small partition like 9 gig and now i have a tivo and want to use it a little more08:49
UbuntuNewbiebut this is my first plunge into *nix , so I am nervous and don't quite know what to expect.08:49
Kovecsesara, are you using xchat08:49
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conrad_Kovecses: tovid??08:49
delltonyso i need to give it another 10 gig but can't figure out how08:50
dbcalocan i build it from a boot cd?08:50
Epixwhat program lets you run windows games on linux?08:50
arayes08:50
trappistdbcalo: yes08:50
naliothUbuntuNewbie: i've installed ubuntu on several Win machines, the resizer works well08:50
crimsundbcalo: for instance, you can boot a live cd, chroot your HD's / fs, edit /etc/mkinitramfs/modules, and regen it08:50
dbcaloTrappist, i just happen to have knoppix 4.0 handy.08:50
trappistEpix: cedega (transgaming.com)08:50
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Kovecsesara, the window around it with the border and the x ... that is an xwindow08:50
delltonyi assume the only way i can do it is with a live cd08:50
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Kovecsesconrad_, yeah tovid is a cool app for .. converting video08:50
trappistdbcalo: installing it might be tricky08:51
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dbcalodo you guys know of any guides?08:51
delltonycan someone pm me detailed instructions oor something so i can write it down please :(08:51
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arai'm trying to get my VGA driver and it is asking me about the version of the x-window08:51
ompauldbcalo, wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com08:51
kakeidoes any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?08:51
cipher_Hi folks, anyone have problems installing firefox 1.0.7 under kubuntu 5.10?08:51
naliothdelltony: d/l a livecd. run livecd. start gparted08:51
delltonywell i ihave a live cd08:51
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kakeicipher_ it crash sometimes?08:51
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Mabus06Is it possible to have ubuntu installed on a usb drive?08:51
Xenguytrappist: OK, so you installed the official nvidia drivers, not the DEBs08:51
cipher_I'm getting complaints about not finding an art file, and a "find" error when I try to apt-get remove it.08:51
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delltonythe thing is i never understood how to get a prompt from one08:51
crimsuncipher_: it's as simple as using Adept to install the firefox package.08:52
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trappistXenguy: yes08:52
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cipher_kakei: no, it seems to run OK, but the menu item hasn't been added--it seems like the install itself didn't go properly.08:52
kakeino idea08:52
Epixquake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...08:52
cipher_crimsun, is that any different on the backend than apt-get?08:52
Xenguytrappist: alright, I'll have a look at that option then - tx08:52
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ompauldelltony, two ways click one of which is applications accessories terminal08:52
crimsuncipher_: not really.08:52
trappistXenguy: it's easier to use the debs, though.08:52
ossieguys what distro do u reccomend apart from ubuntu?08:52
cipher_Yeah, I used apt-get install to install it, but it seems flakey.08:53
trappistossie: lfs08:53
ossiecos im starting to think ubuntu is whack08:53
conrad_Kovecses: unfortunately, it is not in my repositories (synaptics doesn't find it)08:53
UbuntuNewbieI am also a control freak, is there any way to view all processes that run on startup.  Also, everyone is telling me that a firewall is not needed and viruses are not much of a problem with *nix, which is kinda hard to swallow but **great** if true!08:53
Xenguytrappist: I'm sure it is, but those are not working for me, as I mentioned08:53
ossietrappist, what is lfs?08:53
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delltonybut i thought you COULDN'T gpart a active partition08:53
cipher_UbuntuNewbie, I dunno who told you a firewall is unimportant, I don't agree.08:53
delltonyand when you run the livecd it would mount the partiton would it not?08:53
dbcalodoes this guide spell out what i would need to do? http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library-combined/l-fireboot.html08:53
cipher_Personally I'm lazy so I use a h/w firewall.08:53
ompaulossie, linux from scratch but hey remember what to install when you think the rest is too hard08:53
sara_i hate kpackage08:53
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ossieim getting random lockups, where i have to pull the plug08:54
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ossieompaul, what u mean ???08:54
trappistUbuntuNewbie: apt-get install bum and use bum to see startup services.  I recommend a firewall, but it's true there's not much point installing an antivirus unless you're running a mail server and want to protect windows users from them.08:54
conrad_Kovecses: as you suggest alternatively, i'll try burning it as data cd and hope my dvd player picks it up08:54
delltonyand is gparted part of the breezy live cd?08:54
Epixany ideas?08:54
ossiei dont find ubuntu hard , its just unreliable and i think buggy08:54
delltonyi know on horay i had to download it08:54
MFenmad_phoenix: AHA!  http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-September/002130.html08:54
crimsundbcalo: the two-phase boot describes the basic ideas, but it's not a verbatim guide.08:54
koroIs there a way to let the language of the system be english but allow me to use spanish charset and keyboard?08:55
MFenmad_phoenix: ok *now* i have a black screen :)08:55
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trappistossie: #ubuntu is probably not the place to ask about what you should do when you decide ubuntu sucks.08:55
ompaulossie, when you want to come back we will still be here, and your random lockups are more likely to do with an ati or some other video card08:55
MFenoh wait, here it comes08:55
ilredhi to all08:55
mad_phoenixMFen: wow what a strange bug08:55
ossiei have installed nvidia08:55
Kovecsesfglrx baby08:55
UbuntuNewbieok, Cipher....then what is the Zone Alarm equivalent of a firewall for Ubuntu...I feel like I need a translator from Windows to Linux here.08:55
ossiebut i am using the suggestd drivers08:55
mad_phoenixMFen:  i don't have cygwin installed, probably why i didn't run into that problem08:55
MFenmad_phoenix: are you running a windows client too?08:55
Xenguyossie: did you use the DEBs then?08:55
mad_phoenixyup08:55
ompaulossie you need to luck at a page I am about to get the bot to send you08:55
Kovecsesbeep-media-player is pretty cool08:55
dbcaloi think i'll try building another kernel. i have a 1gb jumpdrive i can dump it to. would that make it easier?08:55
ilredi've problems with kaffeine and divx08:56
ompaul!tell ossie about nvidia08:56
trappistUbuntuNewbie: there's nothing quite like zone alarm for linux.  there's a newish project that tries pretty hard, but you're better off rethinking the way you look at firewalls.08:56
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ossiei have used the ones from apt-get and the ones from autamotix08:56
ilredwith gstreamer i've some error messages, with xine i've slow video08:56
MFenmad_phoenix: anyway it makes sense in hindsight.  it includes cygwin's openssh in the distribution, but since i have one on the system, it tries to use that one first, but it can't, because the path to it is hardcoded incorrectly08:56
ossiecheers for the bot  :08:56
ossie:)08:56
delltonyso put in live cd let it boot up then hit terminal and hope gparted is on it? only live cds i have is warty and horay08:56
ilredi use kubuntu breezy and fglrx08:56
mad_phoenixMFen: well at least you located it08:56
MFeny08:57
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ompaulossie, that problem is due to the *nice* people in nvidia not allowing their full design spec out to the community to code good drivers, so ehh it is unfortunate but not really anything to do with ubuntu08:57
mad_phoenixMFen:  i was just able to stream a divx avi file over to my windows client, and only on an 802.11b connection too!  :)08:57
UbuntuNewbiePlease explain, trappist...08:57
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conrad_Hikaru79: do you play go?08:57
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ossieompaul, i had problems before i used this graphics card, i find ubntu a bit slow08:57
MFenmad_phoenix: how far apart are the client and server?08:57
Xenguyompaul: I followed the first link, but it just locks up my box when trying to boot to X08:57
ossienot as slow as suse, but still nto as fast as XP08:57
Hikaru79conrad_, yes I do :)08:57
UbuntuNewbiewhat do I need to rethink?08:58
Hikaru79conrad_, I take it you do also? :) How strong are you?08:58
Kovecsesossie, nvidia?08:58
mad_phoenixwell they're both university networks, but the windows box is on a lan and my linux laptop is on the wifi network....08:58
conrad_Hikaru79: hehe, only 18 kyu08:58
ossieand the hastle , dont get me wrong ive enjoyed learning all the linux stuff, but it just is a lot of hassle , cant even get my ipod to work properly08:58
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ompaulXenguy, try >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << ossie when you have all the stuff on that page done if your still having problems that command may help you also08:58
MFenso far this kicks the crap out of using the X protocol directly08:58
conrad_Hikaru79: been downloading the hikaru no go animes08:58
crimsunconrad_: -> #ubuntu-offtopic08:59
Hikaru79Ah =/08:59
ossiethat command has saved me a few times, when ive been at the black screen08:59
dbcalotrappist, i have a 1gb jumpdrive i can dump the kernel to when building it from knoppix. would that make my life any easier?08:59
EpixWhy would my mouse not work in quake3?08:59
EpixEVen when it worked!08:59
Epixbefore.'08:59
Kovecsesossie, linux will get better in the future08:59
Xenguyompaul: yes, I ran that already, but still no joy -- should I try installing the official drivers from nvidia do you think?08:59
ompaulXenguy, it is your box :) you have the link go for it08:59
ompauland make sure you get the right drivers :)09:00
crimsunEpix: as I recall there's a DGA mouse setting you can toggle; check Google09:00
mad_phoenixMFen:  one thing that suprised me however is that my cairo-enabled clearlooks CVS theme is broken over NX09:00
MFenmad_phoenix: eh.09:00
mad_phoenixya, it's not a big deal09:00
MFenmad_phoenix: what does having a cairo-enabled theme get you?09:00
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mad_phoenixanimated checkboxes and progress bars, and i noticed that the Applications Places and System menus load faster09:01
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mad_phoenixjust faster widgetry in general09:01
mad_phoenixbecause it's rendered off my graphics card using glitz09:01
Xenguyompaul: well I would prefer to just apt-get of course - I don't understand why that has not worked, as this box is a pretty generic/on-board AMD box09:01
MFenmad_phoenix: erm... and it surprises you that that doesn't work? :)09:01
dbcaloi guess if all else fails i'll try running damn small linux from my usb drive or try installing gentoo from the minimal cd.09:01
XenguyKovecses: did you get nvidia DEBs to work alright?09:02
mad_phoenixMFen:  haha no, i guess not...but it does make me wonder about Gnome switching their backend to something that can't be compressed in X protocol09:02
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mad_phoenixMFen: that being said, it's still very very beta09:02
KovecsesXenguy, i dont have an Nvidia .... but i set them up for a friend without issues.... but it was a debian box09:02
mad_phoenixif you can even call it that09:02
e-fonznaliothe?09:02
redvelvethow do I get my computer to operate on the tv09:02
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e-fonz-e09:03
kbrooksSee, I have this microsoft ps/2 mouse. When I plug it in, upon moving of the mouse, the cursor does not move09:03
conrad_Hikaru79: do you know a good site to download the hikaru anime?09:03
kbrooksHelp me.09:03
Kibouare there gonna be xorg 7 packages any time soon?09:03
XenguyKovecses: can you point me to any instructions, or offer any pointers/tips?09:03
MFenmad_phoenix: yeah, they might fix it then09:03
kbrooksThis is very, very, very urgent09:03
MFenmad_phoenix: report a bug! :)09:03
Hikaru79conrad_, there's a link to one on http://senseis.xmp.net09:03
cmatheson!tell kbrooks about questions09:03
Hikaru79Go look there.09:03
mad_phoenixMFen: yes, its my civic duty09:03
crimsunwe need to add ESR's questions FAQ09:03
e-fonzany one know (I am sure some1 does) how to open console in the right map?09:03
Mabus06can someone help me find out if one motherboard uses the same ram as my current motherboard?09:03
Kovecseskbrooks, buy a new mouse09:03
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Kovecseskbrooks, not everything is compatible with linux09:04
cmathesoncrimsun: yeah, it should be on topic... ubotu has it under 'questions' though09:04
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redvelvetdoes anyone know how I can use the s-video output on my video card?  nividia09:04
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dbernar1crimsun: to what?09:04
dbernar1add it to what09:05
sara__can i use the kbuntu install cd to repair a damaded kde desktop?09:05
cmathesonredvelvet: hey read the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx, i think it talks about tvout there... you have to edit your xorg.conf09:05
crimsundbernar1: it's moot; it's already in a factoid09:05
e-fonz05any one know (I am sure some1 does) how to open console in the right map?09:05
redvelvetthanks, cmatheson09:05
dbernar1!moot09:05
ubotudbernar1: What?09:05
dbernar1!questions09:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, questions is what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading09:05
dbernar1Is that from esr?09:05
sara__like as in to reinstall kde?09:05
conrad_Hikaru79: that is dead, do you play on kgs?09:05
cmathesondbernar1: yes, note the ~esr09:06
Hikaru79conrad_, yes. Compulsively so.09:06
Unitywhat command do i issue to open the same X server that opens automatically after boot?09:06
dbernar1heh09:06
Mabus06can someone help me find out if one motherboard uses the same ram as my current motherboard?09:06
conrad_hehe09:06
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dbernar1See I think I added that.09:06
vnikihi all!09:06
cmathesonUnity: install a display manager like [xkg] dm09:06
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conrad_Hikaru79: what is your rating?09:06
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crimsunconrad_: please migrate that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic09:07
Unitycmatheson, like if i closed the X on display 0, how do i open it again in the same way?09:07
Evil_Whisperanyone here fimiliar with python?09:07
Hikaru79conrad_, I'm around 6kyu09:07
KovecsesXenguy, im trying to recall what i did09:07
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MFenEvil_Whisper: yes09:07
kbrooksEvil_Whisper, #python09:07
cmathesonUnity: /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:07
Hikaru79Evil_Whisper, I'm sorta competent. What's up?09:07
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conrad_crimsun: are we disturbing you?09:07
koroPlease help. In the console, i get correct spanish characters like  but accents don't work09:07
KovecsesXenguy, the ubuntu guide doesnt work for you09:07
mirakhi09:07
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crimsunconrad_: it's offtopic09:07
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cmathesonconrad_: yes, go away please09:07
koromy locale is es_AR.ISO blah blah09:07
korowhat could i do?09:07
e-fonzany one know how i open console in the right directory?09:07
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Unitycmatheson, now, how would i open that up on dispay 1 instead of display 0?09:07
yurinachan^_^"09:07
mirakI am looking for a dapper deboostrap script. My hoary install doesn't have it It should be in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/09:07
cmathesonUnity: startx -- :1 i think09:07
cmathesone-fonz: what do you mean?09:08
crimsunmirak: it would be silly for Hoary to have a debootstrap script for a flavor that doesn't exist at the time of its release.09:08
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XenguyKovecses: so far it does not; my box just freezes going into X09:08
dbcalois the kernel source on the breezy install cd?09:08
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aracan someone tell me how can i get to command line in linux?09:08
mirakcrimsun: maybe09:09
binarydigitara: open a terminal09:09
cmathesonara: log in...09:09
conrad_Kovecses: do i have to compile tovid myself - i don't see it in repositories09:09
e-fonzcmatheson:i need to repair a file with par2, but when i use the command it goes to the wrong directory09:09
conrad_anyone?09:09
Epixcrimsun: no, the dga setting didnt help.09:09
crimsunmirak: it's fairly straightforward to dist-upgrade Hoary->Dapper09:09
Xenguyara: or Ctrl-Alt-F309:09
mirakcrimsun: but that doesn't make no sens, to upgrade some stuffs09:09
cmathesone-fonz: so 'cd' into the right directory09:09
crimsunmirak: come again?09:09
mirakcrimsun: I don't want to dist upgrade. I did it and it failed anyway09:09
dbernar1conrad_: /msg ubotu info tovid09:09
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crimsunEpix: did you consult the linuxgamers faq?09:09
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ossieanyone use a psp on their ubuntu box?09:10
Epixcrimsun: nope09:10
Unitycmatheson, that opens a different kind of xserver09:10
mirakcrimsun: I want to do a clean install. I upgraded breezy from a copied partition09:10
conrad_dbernarlL don't get it09:10
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delltony:( ok i put the live cd into the drive and booted and did like you said and went to terminal but there is no gparted as i figured there wouldn't be so how do i do this (please, help) thanks09:10
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mirakcrimsun: so I didn't trashed my main install09:10
dbernar1ubotu: tell conrad_ about ask the bot09:10
e-fonzcmatheson: mmmm, i am new at this....................09:10
Unitycmatheson, but thx anyway i think i can figure it out from here09:10
crimsunmirak: what precisely are you attempting to accomplish?09:10
cmathesonUnity: it's the exact same kind of xserver actually, what are you talking about?09:10
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cmathesone-fonz: cd /to/the/path/you/want09:11
e-fonzcmatheson: so the terminal does not open in the directory where i tried to open it?09:11
mirakcrimsun: I have a dual boot with two linux. So I already hve two partitions. I removed ubuntu breezy 64 bits to use dapper instead. So I want to a debootstrap09:11
Unitycmatheson, it skips the login screen and goes directly to root's desktop09:11
Unitycmatheson, maybe i need to put gdm as the client app or something?09:11
crimsunmirak: wait, you _removed_ Breezy/amd64 and want to use Dapper/amd64?09:11
mirakcrimsun: I want to do a bootstrap because I already have a bunch of .debs from the failed upgrade and I have a not fast adsl, so I prefer use deboostrap and use what I alrady have09:12
mirakcrimsun: I want to use dapper x8609:12
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cmathesonUnity: so you want a login (gdm?) on :1?09:12
Unitycmatheson, yes09:12
crimsunmirak: you tried to dist-upgrade amd64 flavors (Breezy->Dapper)?09:12
mirakcrimsun: as I said I copied my breezy x86 over the old amd64 partition09:12
ossieim loosing faith , gotta pull the plug again, this time k3b wont allow me to clean reboot09:12
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mirakcrimsun: I tried to upgrade it to dapper but it failed because of dependencies.09:13
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cmathesonUnity: ok, that's not going to be entirely trivial because gdm doesn't like two instances of itself running at the same time... i would suggest trying some gnome-specific channels09:13
crimsunmirak: if you tried to dist-upgrade amd64 flavors, you can't install those debs in your Breezy->Dapper/i38609:13
mirakcrimsun: so I though I could do a clean install instead getting a headeach fixing the deps :)09:13
mirakcrimsun: I erased it09:13
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mirakI just need the dapper scripts. Maybe I could find them inside a deboostrap dapper package ?09:14
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mirakcrimsun:09:14
Unitycmatheson, ok thx09:14
delltony:(09:14
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crimsunmirak: of course, just install that package (but beware of dependencies)09:14
Kovecsesjava-package ... i love this friggin app09:14
cmathesonUnity: good luck09:14
ph8my friends out-of-the-box ubuntu has a nice splash screen where all the sorts of configuration network interfaces... [ok]  stuff appears, mine just does it in plaintext - anyone know how to enable it?09:15
mirakcrimsun:  think I will just extract it09:15
dbernar1hey, I figured out how to add a windows computer to a samba domain, just ask me if you need anything.;)09:15
enkrav_Hello, I know ubuntu does not care about Abi compatibility with other distros, but does it make an effort to assure a package built for, say 5.4 does run on later versions like 6.10 ?09:15
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hardbop200hello all, I need a free ftp server that can handle a pretty decent volume - what do you suggest?  I've seen ncftp, but it is not free.09:15
crimsunenkrav_: no09:15
ph8proftpd?09:15
Kovecsesenkrav, well they will have the same package built for them both09:16
crimsunenkrav_: we've had too many transitions to be able to ensure that.09:16
trappistenkrav_: changes to gcc and glibc make that infeasible09:16
cmathesonhardbop200: i like vsftpd09:16
hardbop200ph8:  I'll check it out.09:16
hardbop200cmatheson:  I've heard about vsftpd; does it perform okay?09:16
Epixcrimsun: where would i find this faq?09:16
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cmathesonhardbop200: hmm, i've only used it for mirroring linux repos for local installs here at work... it's been great for that... but i haven't used it for anything super high-volume09:17
mirakI have seen .udeb in the repository, that's new ? :D09:17
Kovecsescrimsun, where are you from09:17
Unitycmatheson, and another thing, the second gnome desktop doesn't have the same widget theme09:17
crimsunEpix: search for "linux game icculus faq"09:17
hardbop200cmatheson:  well, "high volume" for me would be 6k a second on an internal network, but *constant*09:17
crimsunKovecses: SE USA, why?09:17
Kovecsescrimsun, are you a dev?09:18
crimsunKovecses: I'm a MOTU09:18
Kovecsescrimsun, whats that?09:18
crimsun(we maintain the universe & multiverse packages)09:18
trappistmaster of the universe09:18
cmathesonUnity: yeah that's going to be sticky... gdm reads it's theme and stuff from /etc/gdm/* iirc, but there isn't any way of specifying alternate config files afaik09:18
cmathesonhardbop200: i don't think that should be a problem09:18
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ph8my friends out-of-the-box ubuntu has a nice splash screen where all the sorts of configuration network interfaces... [ok]  stuff appears, mine just does it in plaintext - anyone know how to enable it?09:18
hardbop200cmatheson:  thanks for the suggestion, I'll definately try it out.09:18
ompaulph8, what version are you using?09:19
Kovecsescrimsun, well i appreciate your work... thank you09:19
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ph8latest breezy09:19
crimsunKovecses: everyone has a hand it in, not the least of it all of us as users09:19
delltonyanyone know if there is a tivo desktop for linux ?09:19
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cmathesoncrimsun: so i sorta want to get involved w/ this whole MOTU business but everytime i start looking into it i'm never sure what to work on... is there like a definite list of tasks that need doing or something?09:19
trappistdelltony: mythtv09:19
delltonyoh really?09:20
delltonythanks09:20
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ompaulph8, it should just work in that case - have you done something funny like change the way the network connects?09:20
crimsuncmatheson: wiki/MOTU is a decent starting point. Currently we're working on merges from Sid09:20
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trappistdelltony: it's not tivo, which is proprietary, but it serves a similar purpose09:20
ph8it's not just the network interfaces line09:20
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ph8i mean all the startup junk09:20
hungerAny grub profi here? I can't manage to install it into my bootsector.09:20
ph8* checking disk partition * starting samba things like that09:20
delltonyas long as i can transfer my stuff over thats all i want09:20
ompaulph8, did you upgrade from 5.04 or something?09:20
crimsuncmatheson: #ubuntu-motu is the place to ask.09:20
ph8it's about 40+ items down the screen09:20
delltonyi appreciate it09:20
ph8yes i've upgraded from hoary09:20
trappisthunger: is your boot partition xfs?09:20
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hungertrappist: Nope. It is mounted on /mnt/boot with /boot being a symlink into that.09:21
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ompaulph8, it is there at the start of the boot?09:21
olarilolehi there09:21
Unitycmatheson, sry, yet another related question, when i specify a config file using -config special.conf, startx complains that it couldn't move the old log file in /var/logs and then dies09:21
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cmathesoncrimsun: cool, thanks09:21
olariloledoes anyone manage to control the wireless lan LED on an asus A6 or alike under ubuntu?09:21
trappisthunger: are you doing this in a chroot?09:21
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olarilolethe one for the mail notification is easy to handle09:22
visik7why ubuntu set /dev/hda1 (an ntfs partition) unradable by the user ?09:22
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cmathesonUnity: hmm, i've never had this problem... does it tell you which log file it can't move?09:22
hungertrappist: Nope.09:22
crimsunvisik7: mount it with umask=02209:22
olarilolethe one for the wireless should handle pretty much in the same way09:22
olarilolebut it doesn't09:22
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trappisthunger: so, what happens when you try09:22
hungertrappist: I need to share one partition between several distros.09:22
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cmathesonhunger: which partition?09:22
hungertrappist: grub-install fails since /boot is a symlink09:22
hungercmatheson: The boot partition.09:23
Unitykilled the wrong X...09:23
olariloleLEDs on an asus laptop09:23
olariloleanyone?09:23
ossieanyone reccommend a tool link system restore on xp, so that i can take a snapshot of my current configureation?09:23
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crimsunossie: norton ghost09:23
Mabus06XP, ossie? Try another channell.09:23
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hungertrappist: Setup in the grub shell fails as well (I think I am doing something wrong there).09:23
olarilolehave  cool script for the email one but can't make the wireless one work09:23
Mabus06Like, oh, I dunno... #xp09:23
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ossiecheers crimsun09:23
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cmathesonhunger: i don't *think* that would be a problem, although i'v never tried... i usually just let each distro hadnle their own /boot09:24
delltonytrappist, which conf should i use if i just have a home network and nly wanting to use it like tivo desktop?09:24
sureshothow does one tell if gcc is installed on ubuntu gnome09:24
koroI have problems with my spanish keyboard, in console it shows the characters correctly but when i try to type accents it doesn't work09:24
koroany ideas how to fix that?09:24
cmathesonsureshot: you could try running 'gcc' and see if it works09:24
hungercmatheson: The only problem I see so far is that I can not get grub to install properly.09:24
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trappisthunger: have you tried --root-directory=/mnt/boot09:24
sureshotduh09:24
mad_phoenixsureshot: open a terminal and type gcc, if it's a recognized command then you have it09:24
crimsunsureshot: it's not installed by default. You probably want the 'build-essential' package.09:24
sureshotthanks09:24
ph8ompaul: Yes, but there's no nice screen around it09:24
mad_phoenixsureshot: otherwise sudo apt-get install build-essential09:24
Unitycmatheson, /var/log/Xorg.0.log to /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, i assume because the currently running X is holding onto that file09:24
cmathesonhunger: well you should only need grub on one of the partitions right?09:24
Kovecsessureshot, apt-get install build-essential09:24
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trappistdelltony: I dunno, I haven't used mythtv in a long time09:24
sureshotnewbie as you can tell09:24
hungercmatheson: I'd use one boot partition for each linux, too, but on my laptop there is just not enough partitions to go around:-)09:24
hungercmatheson: Yes.09:25
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Kovecsessureshot, what do you need gcc for?09:25
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cmathesonhunger: oooh, yeah, try sharing them that would be interesting... just don't let each distro's install blow away the other distros files09:25
hungercmatheson: I want ubuntu to "manage" grub. Unfortunately I can not get it grub installed from ubuntu with /boot being a symlink:-(09:25
hungercmatheson: That is why I mounted the boot partition on /mnt/boot.09:26
ompaulph8, I upgraded a couple of the boxes here and I got the new artwork along the way, pop the contents of your  /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:26
koroalguien habla espanol?09:26
ompaul!es09:26
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:26
ossiei wish i could show u guys how my computer is behaving09:26
hungercmatheson: /boot is a symlink into that partition (like /mnt/boot/ubuntu)09:26
sureshottrying to run gampas it aborts on run09:26
cmathesonhunger: hmm, that is trouble.. it doesn't like that huh?09:26
hungercmatheson: Exactly.09:26
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hungercmatheson: So far I thought I had had a pretty good idea;-)09:26
trappistossie: random lockups are almost always hardware issues, usually heat-related.09:26
ossiecant even copy a file to my psp, it just hangs half way threw09:27
ossieits not just the lockups09:27
ossienothing seems to work correctly09:27
cmathesonhunger: i'm not familiar enough w/ how the install works... but what happens if you just mount your boot partition on /boot instead of /mnt/boot and then symlinking it?09:27
Kovecsesmandriva makes me puke09:27
trappistossie: when something like that happens, run 'dmesg' and see if there's anything relevant at the end09:27
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verizhello :)09:27
Unitydoes anyone know how to change the welcome screen's language back to default (english usa)?09:27
trappistKovecses: no distro-bashing please09:27
Epixcrimsun: nothing on that FAQ that could help.09:27
Kovecseshello veriz09:28
ph8http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/623509:28
cmathesonUnity: hmm, not sure, it works for me09:28
ph8ompaul ^09:28
Kovecsestrappist, sorry09:28
ph8obviously that cdrom shouldn't be there, how odd09:28
ompaulph8, on it already :-)09:28
Unitycmatheson, ok thx09:28
hungercmatheson: Then it complains about my LVM root partition not having a proper bios mapping. Might only be a warning though.09:28
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sureshotkocesces did you get me post i am using gambas trying to get it to run a simple little program09:29
cmathesonhunger: yeah, i haven't played around w/ lvm yet, so i'm not too clear on that09:29
ompaulph8, as you say, put a # infront of your friend and mine mr CDROM and do your dist upgrade thing09:29
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ompaulph8, seen the note from the bot :-)09:29
Kovecsescan anybody help me with bug #15634 ... or at least tell me if it is dangerous09:29
olarilolekoro: setxkblayout is the solution for all kbd probs09:30
ph8nothing upgraded09:30
hungercmatheson: You should! LVM is the coolest thing since they invented sliced bread.09:30
ph8i have a feeling the cdrom was a late addition09:30
Kovecseswhat makes lvm better?09:30
olarilolekoro: i had the same prob before (not spanish kbd though)09:30
ompaulph8, like it is after the breezy days?09:30
cmathesonhunger: haha, yeah, it's on my todo list for my next install... it sounds way hot (i started getting really interested in it when i started playing around w/ xen)09:30
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ompaulph8, how could that have happened09:30
olarilolekoro: KORO!!! sorry09:31
delltonytrappist, hope you don't mind me asking this question since i have asked it before today wth no real luck do you have experience resizing partition in linux? i have a live cd but obviously i don't know what i'm doinig cause i booted it went to terminal and went to gparted but gparted is not there so i have no idea how to resize09:31
olariloleit's setxkbmap09:31
hungercmatheson: I had to switch the internal HD of my laptop recently... It was a matter of a couple of commands to move everything to an USB disk (while I keept working on the laptop!).09:31
XenguyHow can I verify whether I am running a 386 or else a 686 kernel (default breezy  install) ?09:31
hungercmatheson: You got Xen working?09:31
Unitycmatheson, ok i sorta solved it. it works as root. thx for your help09:31
mjrXenguy, uname -a09:31
KovecsesXenguy, uname -r09:31
Epixcrimsun: any more ideas?09:31
mjrXenguy, by default you'll have 386, tho09:31
KovecsesXenguy, or -a09:31
olariloletry something like $ setxkbmap -layout 'es'09:31
Kovecsesbrb09:32
cmathesonhunger: yeah, but it was on a debian box09:32
olarilolekoor: or even  $ setxkbmap -layout 'es' -type 'pc105'09:32
XenguyKovecses mjr OK, so uname -r gives: 2.6.12-9-38609:32
cmathesonUnity: ok cool, hope you can get that all going09:32
Xenguymjr: yes, as I suspected, this is 386 then09:33
mad_phoenixis there a big difference between the 386 and 686 kernels/09:33
mad_phoenix?09:33
crimsunEpix: not off the top of my head, no09:33
cmathesonmad_phoenix: i haven't ever really been able to *notice* a difference, but if anything needs to be optimized for your arch, it is probably the kernel09:33
ossiei found that 686 was a lot better with my hyperthreading cpu09:33
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pashawmad_phoenix,   most people coiuldnt tell the different09:33
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hungercmatheson: I'm fighting on getting a xen kernel that is as close to the ubuntu one as possible... but the linux repository of Xen is not really well maintained:-(09:34
Epixcrimsun: reboot?09:34
mad_phoenixthats what i figured, i dont think i'd notice on my p4-mobile09:34
ph8ompaul: Not sure, possibly when i put an ubuntu livecd in there09:34
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ph8i don't remember why tbh09:34
ph8but it's gone now09:34
paolobHi all09:34
ph8And i still have no pretty load screen09:34
cmathesonhunger: yeah, it's a mess... we're having problems w/ that at work here too as well (i play w/ it on a debian box, but our production has to be mandrake :( .. getting the right kernel can be a struggle)09:34
ph8I can customise grub fine09:34
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ph8i'm running 2.6.12-9 if that makes any difference09:34
ompaulph8, does not make sense - apt-get update << first then >>  apt-get distupgrade and see if you get anything09:35
ph8and its' just plain between grub and gdm starting09:35
geraldhow do I make my windows partition (sda3) to be read by non super user?09:35
ph8i'm done that09:35
ph8i'm already running breezy09:35
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Kovecsesgerald, add user to fstab09:35
trappistthat's gotta be the single most FAQ in here09:35
ompaulph8, have you done it today?09:36
Epixcrimsun: reinstall?09:36
ph8no, ages ago09:36
ph8this is just something that's been bothering me09:36
ompaulph8, okay well lets do it now09:36
mcjerrygerald what dir is the widows part?09:36
ph8do what?09:36
ompaulph8,  apt-get update << first then >>  apt-get distupgrade09:36
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ph8i've done that today09:36
ossiethis is soooo fast, only takes an eternity to copy 800 meg file from my scsi 7200k drive , so fast about 20 mins and im still waiting09:36
geraldin /media09:36
ph8about 5 minutes ago when you asked me before09:36
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Kovecsesgerald, fstab09:36
conrad_do i have to have a password to be able to offer private chat?09:36
mike-eis there an official list of repositories favored by people using ubuntu breezy?09:37
mike-e!repositories09:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource09:37
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I_Am_help09:37
Kovecsesgerald, under options.. you see how like your cdrom drive says user... do that for the windows part09:37
I_Am_how do i change a read only file09:37
ossieive got dual xeon 2.80 ghz, 1gig of high speed ram, and my machine is running like dog doo09:37
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ph8any ideas ompaul?09:37
ompaulph8, your answer was not clear - however with this info in mind, your problem is beyond me - are you getting any errors for apt-get udpate?09:37
mad_phoenixI Am: man chmod09:37
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ph8no, i updated to breezy a long time ago09:38
crimsunEpix: I doubt a reinstall will help09:38
mad_phoenixI Am: but you probably want to do sudo chmod a+rwx [filename] 09:38
ph8this is something that's been bothering me for a while09:38
kyncaniHi, i'm looking for a backup solution, as dar seems to be very long to create an incremental archive. Any suggestion ?09:38
I_Am_i need to alter my windows boot.ini and gedit only views it as a read only09:38
Kovecsesgerald, does that make any sense09:38
conrad_crimsun: do i need a password to be able to request private chats?09:38
mcjerrygerald add "/dev/sda1 /media ntfs umask=0222 0 0' to your fstab where sda1 is partition 1 change if necessary then 'mount -a'09:38
TachyonI'm trying to install an Epson Stylus CX-3800.  There's no Stylus CX-3800 driver available under the menu.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Or will another one do?09:38
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trappistI_Am_: ntfs?09:38
winterhawkhey guys... I gotta say after years of running BSD (and still running it on 2 boxes) I'm running ubuntu on my laptop because it 'just works'.  Great job, guys.09:38
I_Am_yea09:38
bluefrog-10kyncani, apt-get backuppc09:38
mad_phoenixI Am: well, you're not going to necessarilly be able to write to the windows filesystem09:38
ossiesorry guys, to burst any bubbles here , but im going back to suse, this is just insane09:38
paolobAnyone knows if there is something binary available for conexant AccessRunner pci-dsl modem for ubuntu? thank you!09:39
ompaulph8, you are missing the point, I am asking about today I don't care when you did it are there any outstanding issues that apt is highlighting also >>sudo apt-get upgrade<< may be of use09:39
ossienot much of this os works09:39
trappistI_Am_: that's as good as it's going to get.  no ntfs write support in linux09:39
Kovecsesossie, whats the problem?09:39
I_Am_so you can't change that file?09:39
ph8for gods sake paul i'm not an idiot09:39
conrad_ossie: have fun, say hi to the gecko for me09:39
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trappistI_Am_: unless you want to use captive09:39
Tachyonossie: It could be worse.  You could be going back to Windows. :D09:39
ph8i run apt-get updates and upgrades regularly09:39
I_Am_captive?09:39
hungertrappist: Hah! The --root-directory hint brought me one step closer to a working grub install!09:39
geralddo I have to reboot for changes to occur?09:39
trappisthunger: awesome09:39
conrad_I love that gecko09:39
kyncanibluefrog-10: well, i did not like this {all must go through a web interface} thing with backuppc09:39
mad_phoenixI Am: that's not true, you can write to ntfs, but its dodgy and you essentially need to fsck the entire disk when you're done to check for inconsistencies...but you can do it using beta ntfstools09:39
ossiei might actually go back to windows, its much less hassle, i hate to say it but it s true09:39
Kovecsesossie, some people are better off on different distros... thats why there is so many09:39
ompaulph8, thank you, and there are no outstanding issues, and your not running usplash09:40
bluefrog-10kyncani, too bad...09:40
ossiebut i like ubuntu09:40
Kovecseswindows is WAY more of a hassle for me09:40
crimsun!tell conrad_ about register09:40
ossieits just not doing simple tasks09:40
Kovecseslike?09:40
pashawossie,   good luck   Ubuntu will still be here when you wish to try again09:40
I_Am_even if i have that windows partition mounted i still can't write to it?09:40
kakeino idea09:40
kakeidoes any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?09:40
crimsunconrad_: you need to be identified to query (priv msg) on Freenode09:40
ph8oo, usplash - let me check09:40
ossiethis si my 3 install of ubuntu09:40
conrad_crimsun: who should tell me? can you not09:40
kyncanibluefrog-10: thanks anyway :)09:40
I_Am_i'm pretty sure i have downloaded some mp3's and stored them there09:40
ossiebut i dont think i will be coming back if i leave this time09:40
mcjerrygerald: no reboot necessary09:41
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crimsunconrad_: I just had the bot send you instructions.09:41
conrad_crimsun: how? where?09:41
conrad_ok09:41
hungertrappist: Of only I wouldn't need to enter the complete grub configuration each time I boot, then I think I'll be satisfied with my solution;-)09:41
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conrad_ossie: what can be so difficult? what kind of computer do you have?09:42
mcjerrygerald: pm me09:42
Unitydoes anyone know how to set the welcome screen language?09:42
ompaulph8, like you I am at a loss, your initial answers left me confused, which is why I broke it down to baby steps, if you care to hang around a while I will go play with some software and see if I can find the trigger you need09:42
ossieits not me its this ubuntu honeslty09:42
conrad_ossie: i installed breezy and everything works09:42
Kovecsesossie, well it seems to work for all of us09:42
pashawossie,   now your being silly09:42
conrad_ossie: have you used ubuntuguide.org ?09:42
ossieits all working, crashes now and then proably due to my nvidia09:42
geraldare you sure I add /dev/sda1 and not /media/sda1?09:42
Kovecsesomg09:43
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conrad_ossie: i use nvidia!09:43
trappistossie: don't you think if it was the distro we'd all be having these issues and the distro would have failed long ago?09:43
ossieits just simple thigns like copying a file to my psp , takes an eternity09:43
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ossietrying to get my ipod to work in gtkpod is a big hassle09:43
mirakcrimsun: I have a bunch of .deb file resulting from a failed dist-upgrade to dapper. I was wondering if I can reuse them by just puting them into the apt archive folder09:43
conrad_ossie: sounds like windows is the one for you then09:43
sethkossie, well, windows is really better for some people09:43
crimsunmirak: does the architecture match (i386)?09:44
ossienah, will probably go back to ubuntu09:44
sethkossie, administering a multiuser o/s is difficult09:44
mirakcrimsun: sure09:44
ossienah, will probably go back to suse09:44
crimsunmirak: then yes09:44
Kovecsesossie, do you use gnome in suse09:44
mcjerrygerald : can you pm me? register your nick and pm me09:44
ossiei dont mind the hassle , but hti sis getting ridiculous09:44
mirakcrimsun: I was wondering if the files are referenced or if it just picks them into the cache09:44
ossieno i use Kde in suse09:44
geraldhow do I register my nick?09:44
pashawossie,   i think you should    what you learn there may help you redo Ubuntu later09:44
crimsunmirak: they're downloaded and stashed in cache09:44
verizAnyone know how i can bring webpages to my server?09:44
verizLike from other server09:44
ph8ompaul: usplash is starting at the same runlevels as gdm09:44
ompaulph8, okay first up the boot up manager program (bum who thinks up these names) is it installed?09:45
ossiewwooo hoo, cant take a bit of critiscm09:45
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ompaulahh09:45
mcjerrygerald: in FreeNode Servier window type /msg Nickserv Register09:45
Unityveriz, copy them into the document root09:45
Kovecsesi used gnome for ever... used kde 3.5 for about a month.. to see what all the hype was about... then came right back to gnome09:45
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ompaulph8, it should :-/09:45
Unityveriz, you can maybe get them with httrack09:45
conrad_pashaw: i doubts it rpm and deb are so different . ap-get and yast09:45
TachyonAnyone have insight into my printer question? :)  I'm just wondering if a non-CX-3800 driver will work, and if not, where I might find one for the printer.09:45
ossieim just pointing out my issues09:45
verizUnity: httrack ?09:45
pashawossie,   i honestly like SuSe    just prefer debian way09:45
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ph8"Manager Program" ?09:46
conrad_i love SUSE too, was my first love, but have to admit that apt-get is easier09:46
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ossieubuntu is better to use, just im finding it buggy09:46
Unityveriz, httrack mirrors webservers09:46
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Kovecsesossie, so go use suse .. and stop whining09:46
Kovecsesi like ubuntu and fedora09:47
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ossieim not whining, im just airing my opinion09:47
verizUnity: like if i want to set www.asdasd.com into my server what should i do?09:47
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ph8ompaul:  "Manager Program"?09:47
ossiehope that isnt warrant to be kicked09:47
ZeroIRCHey, how do I setup Sendmail?09:47
pashawossie,    this isnt the opinion channel  is a support channel  you know that09:47
Kovecsesossie, i was only kidding :)] 09:47
mcjerrygerald-volt: i sent you a pm, i have a suggestion to make regarding your fs mount09:47
ossiegang up on me is it ;)09:47
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ompaulph8, the program I was referring to (gtk ap: sudo apt-get install bum) is no longer of interest to me as you have "id"ed the fact that usplash should be starting: try this >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash<< it is unfortunate there is only one way to test :)09:48
gerald-voltwait09:48
gerald-voltgive me a sec09:48
ossiei might stay on ubuntu just to come in here everyday and whine about my problems ;)09:48
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Unityveriz, `httrack www.asdasd.com` and then copy all those files into your server's document root09:48
ossieim finding it very cathartic09:48
Unityveriz, i don't know if this is the cleanest solution though09:48
Kovecsesossie, are you from austraila?09:48
ph8that exited with no output ompaul09:48
ossienope :)09:48
ph8i'm assuming that's normal09:48
ompaulph8, as do I09:49
mcjerrygerald-volt: i wouldn't mount /dev/sda3 /media i would instead mkdir /mnt/windows and then /dev/sda3 /mnt/windows09:49
Some_Bodyhm, my amd64 computer won't detect the ubuntu boot disk09:49
cliebow_where does the wallpaper for a nautilus session actually live?09:49
ph8i'll reboot in an hour or so and let you know, downloading things atm09:49
verizUnity: you mean just into /root directory?09:49
Kovecsesossie, yah i guess that would be aussie09:49
Unityveriz, no09:49
Some_BodyI set it so the bios will detect the cd-rom first, but it still won't09:49
ossienah its my real name09:49
Kovecsesis it09:49
Kovecsesi kinda like that name09:49
ompaulph8, message me I most likley will not be watching the screen09:49
gerald-voltso you mean link /media/sda3 to /mnt/windows?09:49
Unityveriz, look at your webserver's config te find out where the documents go09:49
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KovecsesKovecses is my name09:50
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ossiei might go for the dapper kernel next , watch out then ill be screaming in hear09:50
Unityveriz, /root is root's homedir09:50
Some_BodyI also set the cd-rom as the master, and the hard disk as slave after the initial attempt failed09:50
Some_Bodyknowing it would do nothing09:50
Some_Bodybut...er...any suggestions?09:50
ph8cheers09:50
mcjerrygerald-volt: think you need to check to see if there is a /media/sda3 ...... never saw that.....should be a /dev/sda3.......ls to check09:50
gerald-voltNO09:51
gerald-voltsorry for caps09:51
KovecsesSome_Body, use a boot floppy09:51
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annahello, could someone please tell me how to use unace?09:51
ossieyes i think i might try to the dapper kernel before i jum the ubuntu ship09:51
gerald-volti have /media/sda309:51
gerald-voltthat's my windows partition09:51
gerald-voltI can read it when I'm root09:51
Ribsanna: tried typing 'man unace' ?09:51
yahaa_sweossie, you are now wanted dead or alive by the ubuntu mafia :P09:51
ossieehehhehe09:51
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Some_Bodywill a floppy hold 320+ mb?09:51
ossiei bet i am, i believe that09:51
annaRibs in the terminal?09:51
ossiehehehe09:51
mcjerrygerald-volt, then is it already mounted in your fstab?09:51
Ribsanna: yes09:51
KovecsesSome_Body, no a boot floppy09:51
gerald-voltand in /dev09:52
gerald-volti don't have anything called sda309:52
ompaulossie, sorry bud, but think about it, the rest of the world is wrong and your right?09:52
gerald-voltyea09:52
crimsunossie: Dapper's kernel depends on a lot of infrastructure that Breezy lacks.09:52
trappistanna: unace x file.ace I think09:52
gerald-voltit works09:52
ossieyeah i find that alot , heheheheheh09:52
gerald-voltit's just that I want the user gerald to be able to read that partition as  well09:52
gerald-volt/dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    user,gerald        0       009:52
gerald-voltdo I just do that?09:52
hungertrappist: Heureka! Works now! Thanks for your hint!09:52
conrad_i cant wait for the Dapper Duck either09:52
trappisthunger: rockin09:52
gerald-voltbefore, the options was just default09:52
annathank you, ill try this..09:52
Ribsgerald-volt: I think it's just 'users'09:52
gerald-voltk09:52
ompauldrake09:52
Ribsgerald-volt: you can't list the users in the fstab file09:52
ossiei think i had exagerated expectations of linux in general09:52
conrad_or is it Drake, hehe09:52
Kovecsesduck?09:53
mcjerrygerald-volt: do you have ubuntu-desktop up?09:53
ph8who knows anything about configuring an imap server? I'm running courier via xinetd and some users can create folders with subfolders but not delete them, some can create folders without subfolders but delete them etc09:53
Fanskapetaagh.. damn you gentoo! bleh09:53
Ribsgerald-volt: It's either 'user' or 'users', I'm not sure.09:53
Some_Bodywhat's wrong with gentoo?09:53
gerald-voltit's user09:53
gerald-voltaccording to the other options09:53
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KovecsesFanskapet, gentoo?... gentoo is cool09:53
dennis999What's a good file splitter for 4 gig+ files?09:53
Ribsgerald-volt: But that only controls who can mount the volume, not who can read/write it09:53
FanskapetSome_Body, something strange :)09:53
hungertrappist: Now I only need to patch the linux-image install script that insists on putting the wrong kernel entries into menu.lst;-)09:53
conrad_Drake/Duck; who cares as long as its Daper09:53
ompaulSome_Body, nothing the people in the other chat room will tell you09:53
yahaa_sweSome_Body, its installation is a biatch09:53
gerald-voltoh09:53
rukkhas anybody noticed that the latest version of firefox has a broken download box?09:53
FanskapetSome_Body, http://pastebin.com/48067709:53
Some_Bodywell, if you do a stage 1...09:53
gerald-voltwell then how do I make it so that I can read it09:53
Epixok, wtf, my mouse wont work in quake3. I have reinstalled and rebooted. IT just stays in the upper left hand corner. Why?! I cant find any info at all on this! It even worked a while ago, and I have made NO changes to my q3config since! Help!09:53
rukkas in, nothing shows up at all in the download box, but it downloads fine?09:53
ossiedapper has in built support for the ITE raid card doesnt it , with this one i recompiled to include it , maybe ive made it buggy in the proccess09:54
Kovecsesi like gentoo... but ubuntu "just works"09:54
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FanskapetSome_Body tell me if you see any error in that init.d file :)09:54
trollduckyconrad, 'Dapper' heh09:54
ompaulconrad_, a drake is an interesting word put it with the word dragon into google or some such09:54
FanskapetKovecses, hummz well if it works yes :)09:54
gerald-voltso uuhh09:54
gerald-voltwhat do I do?09:54
KovecsesFanskapet, so why are you in #ubuntu09:54
mcjerrygerald-volt: goto system/admiistration/disk09:54
gerald-voltgentoo has lots of good docs09:54
FanskapetKovecses, becouse im also a ubuntu user?09:54
gerald-volti'm not using gnome09:54
gerald-volti'm using fvwm09:54
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KovecsesFanskapet, ahh09:55
Sika_hello guys, i like to install my ubuntu to external usb2.0 hd.. after first reboot following comes up: ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist. Dropping to shell - any advice to newbie ?09:55
ompaulgentoo and ancient african word for too much time on my hands :)09:55
FanskapetKovecses why are you in #ubuntu ?09:55
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marc_does anyone here play World of Warcraft? I could use alittle help with the mouse issue - I've been trying the workaround but i cant seem to get it to work09:55
KovecsesFanskapet, to talk trash to you :)09:55
gerald-volthaha09:55
crimsungerald-volt: you need to mount it with umask=02209:55
annatrappist sorry, it does not work :(09:55
Fanskapetnice nice :)09:55
gerald-volthow do I do that09:55
crimsungerald-volt: you probably want nls=utf8, too09:55
trappistSika_: that's not going to work.  the kernel modules necessary to mount a usb hard drive aren't available at boot time.  you'll need to build your own kernel (or your own initrd) to fix it.09:55
Fanskapetand init.d scripts should not differ from ubuntu anyhow..09:55
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Fanskapetbleh.. can't understand what's wrong with the crap09:55
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avgasseI installed Xubuntu09:56
Xenguynvidia: I am assuming that 'GeForce6100' is not an "older card", and so I do not need the 'legacy' drivers -- does this sound correct?09:56
gerald-volthold on09:56
gerald-volti gotta log off09:56
ossiewell guys , im off sorry if i caused any offense, i will be back later to get some more advice on getting ubuntu working properly, NONE HACK ME NOW BE GOOD09:56
gerald-voltbrb09:56
FanskapetI can run it successfully with eg. /etc/init.d/blabla start09:56
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avgassewhat init script do I modify to tell Ubuntu to start xfce?09:56
Sika_trappist: ok, thx09:56
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Xenguyer, nvidia question: I am assuming that 'GeForce6100' is not an "older card", and so I do not need the 'legacy' drivers -- does this sound correct?09:56
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yahaa_sweossie, take care now, bye bye then xD09:56
aris[doritos] i'd say yes09:56
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aris[doritos] just try Xenguy09:56
Fanskapetbut not at boot-time using rc-update add blabla default.. then i just get echo'ed "Usage: /etc/init.d/$NAME {start|stop|restart}" at boot-time.. really strange.09:56
Fanskapetbeats me why09:56
Xenguyaris[doritos] : try what?09:57
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crimsunavgasse: none. Just select Xfce4 from the Sessions menu in GDM.09:57
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aris[doritos] try the non-legacy before trying legacy ones09:57
FlorobXenguy: GeForce6100 is not an older card.09:57
crimsunavgasse: I presume you have the 'xfce4' package installed from universe.09:57
yanI have sime problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?09:57
KovecsesFanskapet, what are you adding09:57
yansome*09:57
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XenguyFlorob: thanks09:57
avgasseno, I installed xubuntu-desktop09:57
cliebow_Maine109:57
FanskapetKovecses, http://pastebin.com/48067709:58
Xenguyaris[doritos] : already tried that09:58
avgasseI don't have a login manager09:58
FanskapetKovecses, starting a vnc session at boot.09:58
avgasseI don't use gdm, I think09:58
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yanI have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?09:58
yanI have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?09:58
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Fanskapetalso have a even more simpler script starting a screen with irssi on the user fanskapet09:58
yanI have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?09:58
gerald-voltok09:58
gerald-voltI think I got it tow ork09:58
Fanskapetworks starting as root manually but at boot-time.. the same result.09:58
KovecsesFanskapet, dude look at that code... that should explain everything09:59
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gerald-voltI just unmounted my windows partition09:59
aris[doritos] yan, don't spam09:59
gerald-voltand then ran this line09:59
gerald-voltmount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022209:59
FlorobXenguy: actually the package description says that anything newer then GF2 is not old09:59
trappistyan: we heard you the third time09:59
aris[doritos] actually, if you can't find out how to use the source packages and ask the question in loop09:59
yanok sorry09:59
aris[doritos] you have no business in changing them09:59
FanskapetKovecses, i have been staring at it for almost 1 1/2 hour :) and some documentation :) probably not enough09:59
Fanskapetbut i don't get what's wrong :)09:59
aris[doritos] what are you going to change ?09:59
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trappistyan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list09:59
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yan10x09:59
mcjerrygerald-volt: i thought you said it was sda1 but if you got it to mount cool....10:00
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Kovecsesyan, edit /etc/apt/sources.list10:00
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Kovecsesyan, or go here10:00
gerald-voltsorry if I said sda110:00
BoukenPinkhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 <- Is there a way I can do this but split the resulting archive into parts that could be burned on to CD? :310:00
avgasseso, how do I tell Ubuntu to skip the console and go right to xfce4?10:00
Kovecsesyan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:00
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yanok 1thatnk u ill try10:00
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Fanskapetyahaa_swe, damn nuisance is the accurate translation :)10:01
Kovecsesavgasse, well you could install a login mamager10:01
Kovecsesavgasse, or add it to xinitrc10:01
avgassewhat would be the "lightest" login manager then?10:01
yahaa_sweFanskapet, :D10:01
Kovecsesavgasse, xdm10:01
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mike-ehmm upgrade went relatively smooth.10:02
john_I suddenly can not access the network configuration dialog in breezy? anyone got any ideas?10:02
aris[doritos] login + startx10:02
pashawmike-e,   haha famous last words10:02
mike-eyeah no kidding10:02
avgassexinitrc is for when X is already started...10:02
Some_Bodywell, I'm going to hope I screwed up the burning process for the cd, and download ubuntu again10:03
LFAhi10:03
Kovecsesavgasse, it will start xfce for you though10:03
aris[doritos] i updated a laptop from debian to breezy server ;p and it worked fine10:03
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aris[doritos] alos updated the hoary of my gf, I just had issues with nvidia-legacy10:03
john_anyone know that "lo" is on the network interfaces?10:03
avgassebut it won't start X for me10:03
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Hikaru79john, it's the loopback local address. It's always there, don't worry about it.10:04
aris[doritos] john_, loopback. it's your own computer10:04
Hikaru79Should be on 127.0.0.110:04
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john_well something strange is happening....10:04
hungerjohn_: It is used so that your computer can talk to itself.10:04
Hikaru79john_, what is it?10:04
aris[doritos] trying to tcpdump it is not a good idea10:04
john_ok i had my wifi configured ok10:04
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john_and i started up and it didnt work10:04
mike-eis it possible to switch kubuntu to just regular ubuntu?10:05
john_so normally i go into configuration and disable it then activate it and 9 times out of 10 it works again10:05
mike-eor is that unnecessary10:05
slideWtf is gam_server and why is it using 305MiB of my memory?10:05
john_...i was getting this same issue with wired ethernet10:05
trappistmike-e: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:05
UbuntuNewbieI have a dual boot Windows Partitioning question10:05
john_anyway this time i start up i cant get to the configuration dialog10:05
mcjerryjohn_ lo is 127.0.0.1 loopback10:05
Kovecsesgnome is better10:05
john_and therefore had no internet connection10:05
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Florobmike-e: well you would install ubuntu-desktop pacage and remove kubuntu-desktop + dependecys.10:05
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mike-egood10:06
mike-ekde sucks ass10:06
john_so i tried selecting eth0 and no luck as I couldnt get to the config dialog10:06
Kovecsesw00t10:06
john_so then I tried ath0 (wifi)10:06
john_still no luck10:06
john_so then i tried lo and it works????10:06
StyXmanI'm confused: what's the difference between breezy-updates and breezy-security?10:06
john_how t f is that?10:06
UbuntuNewbieI read the data from the Windows Dual Boot Howto10:06
crimsunslide: it's the userspace portion of a file-monitoring tool10:06
Kovecseseven though linus dissed gnome10:06
mike-ebrb10:06
john_normally i have either ath0 or eth0 selected10:06
mike-elinus sucks ass too10:06
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UbuntuNewbieI have 2 partitions10:06
mike-ebrb10:06
Kovecseslol10:06
slidecrimsun, Is 300megs a normal amount of memory for it to eat?10:06
john_so how come selecting lo see,s to have overidden everything and it works now?10:07
avgassemy new question is: how do I start X at boot10:07
crimsunslide: it's not unreasonable10:07
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pashawUbuntuNewbie,  just ask your question and dont make mulitple lines10:07
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slideok10:07
klaymwhich terminal command shuts the computer down (in the sophisticated manner of course) ?10:07
john_anyone?10:07
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mcjerryjohn_ when you type lsconfig, what is the ip address you have for lo?10:07
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visik7klaym: shutdown10:07
klaymvisik7: thanks10:07
slideklaym, powers off or restarts?10:07
aris[doritos] StyXman, breezy-security is like breezy-updates but only has security issues and is more up to dates than others10:07
crimsunslide: keep in mind that's not 300 physical megs. That 300 includes shared mappings.10:07
Florobmike-e: well he made a statement I wouldn't sign, but kde is better then gnome in some aspects, which he seems to care about, so I can understand him10:07
klaymshuts down10:08
john_where do i type lsconfig?10:08
klaymquite obvious :)10:08
slideshutdown -h now, i believe10:08
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aris[doritos] or halt10:08
mcjerryjohn_ open terminal window10:08
deniswifiola10:08
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klaymwhat's the -h and now ?10:08
deniswificiao???10:08
conrad_kovecses: burnt that data cd. The pc dvd player will show'em, but unfortunately it doesn't play on my television dvd player10:08
steve__hey guys im having a brain cramp. what is the command to see the list of device connected to the computer10:08
crimsunaris[doritos] : (you probably meant breezy-security only has security updates, whereas breezy-updates has critical non-security fixes)10:08
slideman shutdown10:08
slide;)10:08
StyXmanaris[doritos] : so, should I update against both or just security?10:08
avgasseIf I have to install a login manager, which is the "lightest" AND gives me a list of possible users? I don't want the end user to type her username, just her password10:09
pashawsteve__,   lspci10:09
crimsunStyXman: both.10:09
aris[doritos] take both of them10:09
deniswifihow writer dvd with ubuntu?10:09
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UbuntuNewbieA 40 MB utility partition, and a 200GB ntfs partition (bootable).  The 200 GB ntfs partition is 1/4 full with windows junk...can I just resize it with the partitioner on the ubuntu cd10:09
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ITSa341<-- has had lots of brain cramps the last few days trying to get 3d acceleration on my ATI Radeon Mobility IGP32010:09
klaymUbuntuNewbie: yes10:09
klaymUbuntuNewbie: just did it myself :)10:09
conrad_kovecses: that tovid is not easy for a noob like myself to find and compile10:09
john_mcjerry, i done that10:09
steve__that didnt tell me about my ide stuff tho10:09
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john_command not found10:10
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mcjerrysteve__ depends on how they are connected10:10
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john_should i be in a particular directory10:10
steve__they are ide connected10:10
pashawsteve__,    drives?   fdisk -l10:10
steve__but not mounted yet10:10
steve__thats it10:10
mcjerryjohn_ and what did it output?10:10
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john_got a command not found10:10
conrad_koveceses: found a repository which i added to /etc/ sources list but apt-get didn't like it10:10
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mcjerrysteve__ exactly what are you trying to do?10:10
steve__wierd10:10
UbuntuNewbieok say i want 10 gig for ubuntu...how do I set it up without killing current windows...that is what scares me.10:11
mcjerryjohn_ try ifconfig then10:11
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steve__im trying to see what the drive is10:11
steve__ie hda110:11
conrad_kovecses: for the tar ball there were too many dpendency issues10:11
steve__but i do the -l command and i see nothing10:11
john_the lo ip address is 127.0.0.110:11
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mcjerrysteve__ do you have gnome /10:11
steve__yep10:11
hungerUbuntuNewbie: DO BACKUPS! Then grap partitionmagic (that is better at resizing ntfs then the free tools).10:11
conrad_kovecses: are you there?10:11
mcjerryjohn_ did ifconfig output any other connections than lo?10:12
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mcjerrysteve__ System/Administration/Disks10:12
john_yes both eth0 and ath010:12
pashawsteve__,   you use sudo  first?10:12
ITSa341<-- lost my XP installation using the included partition utility on the install cd   MAKE BACKUPS10:12
john_by the looks of it my eth0 is the one with the connection10:12
Kovecsesconrad_, just got back whats up?10:12
gerald-volthow do I setup nautilus so that I only use the file browser, and not the entiere gnome X window thing?'10:12
EpixWahhH!!! I get a very bad error... "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged yourself out, thhis could mean that there is some install problem or you are out of diskspace"!!!10:12
john_but why cant I access the net when I select this one10:12
steve__whoops10:12
mcjerryjohn_ and what are the ips for eth0 and  ath010:12
steve__all good now guys10:12
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conrad_kovecses: back track the messages i wrote to you if you can, or shall i repeat it all?10:13
john_ath0 doesnt have one and eth0 has the ip address I assign it static10:13
Kovecsesconrad_, all the dependencies you need are apt-getabble ... there is a list on the site10:13
Kovecsesconrad_, but wait.. i even think there is a .deb?10:13
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UbuntuNewbieWill the included partition utility kill the whole ntfs partition?10:14
conrad_kovecses: not all, there was a wxpython, which wasn'ty apt-get-able. couldn't find the .deb10:14
crimsunUbuntuNewbie: only if you tell it to10:14
SeveasUbuntuNewbie, only if you tell it to10:14
Seveaslol10:14
mcjerryjohn_ are you behind a router? are you sure static ip is correct wth correct gateway ip and dns server ips10:14
crimsun^5 Seveas10:14
Seveas:)10:14
john_yes10:14
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Verwilsthi10:14
john_yeah my networking is all fine10:14
Epixrebooting!10:14
john_I have an ip range10:14
Verwilstanybody here has a linux dualhead setup?10:14
john_of statics10:15
john_its all good10:15
mcjerrySteve__ you good to go?10:15
UbuntuNewbieWell what do I set the setting as?  "Manually edit partition table"  -- then what?10:15
pashawVerwilst,   yes i use a quadro at home10:15
john_its just strange how when selecting eth0 i lose my net connection and when I select lo I get it back. What else is strange is how I cant access the network config dialog in gnome anymore10:15
Kovecsesconrad_, http://tovid.berlios.de/en/install.html10:15
john_just nothing pops up when I click configure10:15
john_even after reboots10:15
SeveasUbuntuNewbie, then you select partitions and do things with it (resize, format, tell the installer to leave it alone)10:16
Verwilstpashaw: quadro? 4 screens??10:16
pashawVerwilst,   im poor 2 screens  :P10:16
Verwilstpashaw: i would like to setup a dualscreen at work10:16
mcjerryjohn_ you got something wrong in your routing tables10:16
Verwilstbut i don't know which card works fine under linux10:16
conrad_kovecses: thank you. i couldn't figure it out from berlios. So, i'll follow the link you've given. I'll let you know :)10:16
john_I have?10:16
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pashawVerwilst,   what card?10:16
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arai'10:16
Verwilstgraphics card :)10:16
john_how do I fix that then?10:16
pashawVerwilst,   yes10:16
Seveaswith my ati card dualscreen is a breeze with fglrxconfig10:17
Kovecsesconrad_, add the repos it shows and you will be golden10:17
AIVdoes someone know of a list that details what boards are supported by ubuntu?10:17
alan__can anyone help me with advice on how to get ubuntu to see a second harddrive that i just plugged in10:17
AIVa hardware list?10:17
VerwilstSeveas: which one?10:17
mcjerryjohn_ if you deactivate eth0 can you still access the internet with lo?10:17
john_I know everything is fine cos the IP address I assigned works fine, I can ping all my local network machines and access the net10:17
SeveasAIV, a partial list is on the wiki under HardwareSupport10:17
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arai'm trying to run a command on the terminal windows but it says"permission denied" what's wrong?10:17
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SeveasVerwilst, mobility 9000/960010:17
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john_I cant deactivate it as the configure screen wont opn10:17
conrad_kovecses: i did add the repos but apt-get didn't like 'em10:17
john_open10:17
Verwilstoh, a laptop10:17
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Epixfuck. this error isnt going away.10:17
calamarialan__: what kind of hd.. and did you reboot ?10:17
ITSa341ara  use sudo  you need root permissions for the script you are trying10:18
UbuntuNewbieSo for example...the bootable ntfs partition...do I just resize it to 180 GB first, then do I format 20 GB of that for Ubuntu?10:18
john_unless u can tell me the command and Ill do it from terminal10:18
conrad_kovecses: i've been to the link you've given before, but don't know where to go from there10:18
Florobepix: is this dapper or breezy?10:18
EpixFlorob: breezy10:18
mcjerryjohn_ you only have one ip address assigned to eth0 correct.....try opening network with sudo or root10:18
john_correct10:18
dabaR!seen bob210:18
alan__its an internal 60 gig hd  it has ubuntu installed on it (trying to recover the files onto my hd)10:18
ubotubob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13d 15h 11m 24s ago, saying: 'cooper's heritage is the perfect * beer'.10:18
conrad_kovecses: tried and failed the repository route, the tar ball looks too daunting10:18
AIVSeveas, How do I get to that list?10:18
arawhat's sudo?10:18
AIVI will google10:18
john_how does one do that?10:18
pashawUbuntuNewbie,   dont touch your main partiton resize your extra one10:18
alan__yes i rebooted10:18
Florobepix: did iti work before whatever you did and what did you do?10:18
conrad_kovecses:  a simple .deb file would be nice10:18
ITSa341super user for one command only unlike logging in as root10:18
Seveas!tell ara about root10:19
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calamarialan__: ok.. what do you get with: ls /dev/hd*10:19
arai'm pretty new to linux, it's my first day10:19
Kovecsesconrad_, what was the errors when you tried the repo?10:19
EpixFlorob: it worked before, and i installed quake3 then rebooted.10:19
alan__i want to reinstall kbuntu on the second drive.. but i plugged it in to my computer so i can drag the music files off it10:19
ITSa341ara   well, enjoy it and keep learning10:19
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conrad_kovecses: geez, i don't remember. but an error message came back for sure when i went into synaptic10:20
gerald-volthow do I get openoffice to display my hp printer?10:20
ITSa341you came to the right place for help....that's why I am here, I find the help I need here10:20
hungerara Don't get discouraged! It is not as hard as it might look when people are shouting strange things at you in response to your questions;-)10:20
UbuntuNewbieMe thinks I need partition Magic.....this is too easy to screw up badly!10:20
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Kovecsesconrad_, http://packages.kirya.net/   .... this site has the deb.... but it wont solve dependencies10:20
conrad_kovecses: did you find that you had no problem adding the repo?10:20
alan__/dev/hda   /dev/hda2  /dev/hdb   /dev/hdb2  /dev/hdc10:20
alan__/dev/hda1  /dev/hda5  /dev/hdb1  /dev/hdb5  /dev/hdd10:20
Kovecsesconrad_, let me try10:20
ITSa341I've been using ubuntu for about a week now10:20
pashawUbuntuNewbie,  i agree    use anything that makes you more comforatable10:20
UbuntuNewbieI was just trying to save some $$$10:20
Florobepix: that's strange, does quake 3 install itself over the whole system, or just in one's home directory, because if it installs itself "everywhere" it might be possilbe that it replaced a file of the xserver with a incompatible file from itself10:20
dabaRalan__: and?10:20
alan__im trying to figure out which one of those is the 10 gig drive i just attached10:21
mcjerryjohn_ sudo network-admin10:21
EpixFlorob: it was in /usr/local/games10:21
BlackEntityHello, I was wondering if anyone knows workarounds to the absence of DMA in 64 bit Linux? (as many distros I try, as many kernel recompiles I do I cannot seem to get over this)10:21
alan__and how to access it10:21
calamarialan__: ahh.. type mount10:21
john_ok10:21
Kovecsesconrad_, the repos worked for me bud10:21
conrad_kovecses: i was at the kirya website exactly10:22
hungeralan__: Try fdisk -l /dev/hda. That pints the partition table of the drive.10:22
dabaRalan__: it is likely the hdb(whole drive) has 3 partitions, and use "sudo fdisk -l" to find out more. and paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, not here.10:22
john_sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()10:22
john_?10:22
BlackEntityOnly useable Linux I had working on this laptop was 32 bit distros and I get a skewed clock on thoose.10:22
conrad_kovecses: ?? you just added them at the bottom of your sources.list ?10:22
conrad_kovecses: copied and pasted?10:22
alan__tx10:22
koroolarilole: i just read what you said about keyboard10:22
EpixFlorob: the error is unable to read the ICE aithority file: /home.../.ICEauthority10:22
koroolarilole: but mine is not a problem in X, it's in console10:23
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Kovecsesconrad_, do you see the .deb on the page??????10:23
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john_Anybody here running Dapper?10:23
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crimsunjohn_: yes10:23
hungerjohn_: Yes.10:23
mcjerryjohn_ Dapper here10:23
dabaRno10:23
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alan__Disk /dev/hda: 10.2 GB, 10245000192 bytes10:23
alan__   thank you10:23
john_crimsun, I heard that the networking was better for accessing windows shares,is it true?10:23
crimsunjohn_: no idea, I use AFS10:24
ITSa341Anyone here ever try to get 3d acceleration working with an ATI Radeon Mobility IGP320??10:24
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dabaRjohn_: through samba?10:24
hungerjohn_: No idea, I use fish:-)10:24
dabaRjohn_: I mean, smbfs...10:24
john_yeah10:24
HIghoSjohn_: Can't really tell if you if it's better, didn't use it that much when I was using Hoary and Breezy, but I have no problems now in dapper.10:24
Florobepix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583 has a solution to that problem10:24
dabaRjohn_: why do you need it to be better, is it not working good for you?10:24
visik7ITSa341: it's not support by ati propetary driver10:24
conrad_kovecses: are there a host of 'em. all with i386?10:24
pashawjohn_,   i wouldnt believe it  unless brezzy has a bug   smb has been around too long10:24
john_for example...in order for me to play an mp3 direct from a windows share I needed to mount the windows share each time I use it10:25
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john_but I heard dapper may fix this?10:25
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john_by defualt10:25
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jauregihi10:25
jauregii need help10:25
ITSa341visik7 is there another driver somewhere besides the ATI which would work?10:25
pashawjohn_,   or setup an auto mount10:25
hungerjohn_: Haven't tried, but I doubt it.10:25
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visik7ITSa341: mmm I don't think10:25
alan__dabaR  how can i browse /dev/hda  when i go there in konqueror it shows as empty10:25
dabaRjohn_: and, is there a line for the share in fstab that allows you to view the files without specifically mounting it?10:25
marc_Anyone here know how i Enable display of hidden folders with the default File Manager10:25
hungerjohn_: How are you setting up the connection?10:25
dabaRalan__: you mount it. what is on it?10:25
john_mcjerry, think I will just count my lucky stars that its working10:25
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ITSa341figures, that is about the only major hurdle left for me on this thing10:26
hungeralan__ : hda is the entire DRIVE!10:26
yanMAy I ask a question:)?10:26
john_hunger, bear in mind im a newbie.....10:26
Kovecsesconrad_, what are you talking about?10:26
jauregihow can i know which processes are using /dev/dsp?10:26
dabaRyan: off copurse not10:26
hungeralan__: Your data is in the partitions (hdaX).10:26
alan__its 10 gig drive full of music10:26
chuckeri have a launchpad account, and i used to be able to log in to, say, shipit.ubuntu.com with it -- but i can't any more, and i can't log in to wiki.ubuntu.com (which i intended to do) either. i have already tried resetting the password, but i know that's not the problem since i can login to launchpad.net just fine10:26
dabaRyan: did you pay the paypal account for the channel?10:26
jauregihow can i know what processes are using /dev/dsp?10:26
pashaw!ati10:26
ITSa341yan    ask away and if someone can help you they may10:26
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1010:26
EpixFlorob: fixed, thanks. now want to help with my evil quake3 problem?10:26
korptix\ahi.10:26
visik7marc_: view->hidden files or ctrl+h10:26
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conrad_kovecses: further down kirya's page on the link you gave10:26
yanI have dual Boot: ubuntu [with kde]  and Windows XP, How can I do that the Ubuntu will see my ntfs Drive C: ??10:26
pashawITSa341,   did you read that?10:26
john_hunger, I mounted the windows server 2003 share using mkdir /mnt/<name-of-mount-point>10:26
conrad_kovecses: i see no other .deb file otherwise10:26
hungerjohn_: So what? So am I (wrt. Samba at least)10:26
john_then access it10:27
Florobepix: depends on what those are10:27
chuckerjauregi, lsof could be of help10:27
ITSa341pashaw   tried those links very carefully more than one time10:27
korptix\amy friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?10:27
marc_Visik7, thanks10:27
ITSa341they are for older ATI not the IGP10:27
dabaRubotu: tell yan about ntfs10:27
conrad_kovecses: did you sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then copy and paste the repos at the bottom?10:27
john_hunger, then mount -t smbfs -o username=<username>,password=<password> //<win-box>/<share> /mnt/<name-of-mountpoint>10:27
korptix\a?10:27
pashawITSa341,   ahhh   perhaps google it10:27
hungerjohn_: That works? mkdir does create a directory, nothing more.10:27
john_^10:27
pashawITSa341, new stuff  can be tricky10:27
BlackEntityAny suggestions for enabling DMA on 64 bit linux(sempron 3200, ati IXP controller)?10:27
jauregithanks chucker10:27
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korptix\aanyone ?10:27
chuckeryw10:27
yandabaR 10x:010:28
alan__one last dumb question, how can i mount /dev/hda    ???10:28
Kovecsesmount /dev/hda10:28
hungerjohn_: Good! Have you tried adding that to /etc/fstab? That is a table which lists all the filesystems the system knows (and only those can be mounted at bootup).10:28
ITSa341pashaw   tried that also before I came in here bugging people. But, thanks for trying. I can live without 3d acceleration....for now   LOL10:28
EpixFlorob: mouse stays in the top left hand corner.10:28
Kovecsesconrad_, do you see my file offer?10:28
EpixFlorob: and i can click. but its not moving!10:28
korptix\a..10:28
dabaRalan__: it is set into partitions, you will not be mounting hda itself, but one of hdaX10:28
sethkalan__, typically hda is a partitioned device and you would not mount it10:28
dabaRalan__: and tell us what is on it.10:28
sethkalan__, you would mount, say, hda110:28
BlackEntitymount /dev/hda -t <FS?> /media/<make a dir here before hand>10:28
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alan__ok im trying10:29
BlackEntityright my mistake as well10:29
conrad_kovecses: yes, i have clicked 'accept' but nothing is happening. did youget my quesiton about repos and source list?10:29
hungerjohn_: fstab needs exactly the information from your mount command. The formatting is a bit different, but I am sure you can figure it out.10:29
korptix\amy friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?10:29
john_hunger, yes I did but everytime I boot it asks for a password now10:29
dabaRjohn_: ya, you would have to add it to fstab to have it always mounted.10:29
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y_o_uhello everyone. ubuntu n00b here, trying to adjust my screen res in 5.04. when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. anyone able to help? thanks10:29
dabaRhunger: you did not set it up properly then. There could be a option for a password.10:29
Florobepix: this can be cause of an attached joystick (happend one time to me), if you don't have one I have no idea10:29
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dabaRhunger: sorry.10:30
john_maybes i put it in the same format as the mount command?10:30
Kovecsesconrad_, just copied and pasted.... i installed tovid from source so...i dont really no whats the deal10:30
conrad_kovecses: seems repos is still thebest way to go if i can, because apt-get will take care of dependencies for me10:30
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dabaRjohn_: ^10:30
hungerBlackEntity: Do you want to mount the drive?!10:30
john_mabes its wrong and why I am getting a password request on boot10:30
chuckery_o_u, what do you mean with "nothing happens"? does a dialog come up at all?10:30
marc_I officialy have proof that linux is idiot proof.  I can use it.10:30
ITSa341LOL10:30
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yahaa_sweyan; http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs10:30
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korptix\amy friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?10:30
hungerjohn_: Read the man page for mount. (man mount in the terminal).10:30
ITSa341<-- seconds that motion marc_10:30
marc_lol :)10:30
CFDevhi10:30
john_hunger, every time I try to use root i get sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()10:30
hungerjohn_: You can either add a option for the password or use credentials.10:30
john_could that be cos of earlier network probs I had?10:30
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CFDevi have a problem on my kubuntu system with ColdFusion installation10:31
korptix\amy friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?10:31
naliothjohn_: you shouldnt be trying to use root10:31
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y_o_uno, at the bottom, it says "starting screen resolution", but then dissapears, nothing follows10:31
sethkjohn_, if you are using nis is would be10:31
korptix\afor the 5th fkn time10:31
BlackEntityOk rebooting trying something I found at the wiki10:31
john_sudo I mean10:31
pashawkorptix\a,   spamming gets you ignored and then booted10:31
marc_Does anyone here use transgaming?  I deleted the .transgaming folder by accident10:31
CFDevhow can i install compat-libstdc++10:31
korptix\amate10:31
john_nis?10:31
naliothkorptix\a: i believe you want #windows10:31
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dabaRCFDev: is coldfusion a development or web design tool?10:31
korptix\au asked 5 times10:31
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korptix\acheers10:31
marc_I deleted its content rather10:31
CFDevi just need compat-libstdc++ on ubuntu10:31
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chuckerkorptix\a, i would be very interested to know how your friend installed IIS on Linux10:31
Zambbakorptix\a: I think Incredebly Insecure Shit isn't related to Ubuntu10:31
conrad_kovecses: to be clear(i want to know if i did something different) you copied and pasted the repos on kiryas webiste into gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:31
john_well I have lost the ability to access my network config dialog ?10:31
CFDevthere is a warning in installation10:31
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sethkkorptix\a, the question makes no sense.  it isn't in a file, it _is_ a file10:31
john_have something to do with networking died?10:32
Kovecsesconrad_, yes i did10:32
conrad_kovecses: and then you sudo apt-get install tovid and presto?10:32
CFDevWarning: C++ compatibility pack10:32
dabaRkorptix\a: ya, isn't iis a windows web server?10:32
y_o_uany idea on why it would just dissapear? its a clean install10:32
CFDevrpm --query compat-libstdc++10:32
Kovecsesconrad_, well you need to have libdvdcss2 installed ...then yes apt-get install tovid will work10:32
CFDevbut i want to install with apt-get10:32
sethkdabaR, it sure is.  And it that doesn't clue us, he said .htm instead of .html10:32
chuckery_o_u, does it work if you start it as root?10:33
Fanskapetahh now it works.. all my scripts.10:33
CFDevi have searched cache but no such a file10:33
sethkdabaR, crippled windows syntax10:33
conrad_kovecses: livdvdcss2 i have already installed. Did you copy and paste both lines of kirya's?10:33
john_there is definitely something wrong with my networking can I repair or do I need to reinstall?10:33
Fanskapetnice to have gentoo start my irssi-client on a screen at boot :)10:33
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Kovecsesconrad_, yeah but you should not need the src10:33
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CFDevcompat-libstdc++ on ubuntu?10:34
y_o_uthat would probably be the reason. as i said, i am a linux noob. how do i specifically start it in root, or logout and then login as root?10:34
dabaRCFDev: do you need a compat-libstdc++ or a libstdc++?10:34
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alan__the drive i have to add is called hdb210:34
hungerCFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some old version of libstdc++.10:34
CFDevdabaR: it says i need to install  compat-libstdc++10:34
Kovecsesconrad_, and use the command line... syaptic is for pussies10:34
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CFDevi have already libstdc++610:34
hungerCFDev: Figure out which one you need and install it.10:34
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naliothy_o_u: you dont use root at all10:34
dabaRCFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ in a terminal or use synaptic10:35
naliothubotu: tell y_o_u about root10:35
CFDevbut there is no  compat-libstdc++10:35
conrad_kovecses: should : deb http://packages.kirya.net unstable main contrib non-free - be enough. I am a pussy! : )10:35
marc_ITSa341, do you have Transgaming?10:35
hungerCFDev: libstdc++6 is the newest one...10:35
CFDevi need  compat-libstdc++10:35
CFDevbut how?10:35
Kovecsesconrad_, didnt i already answer that question10:35
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pinkisntwellhas anyone had problems with dpms in ubuntu?10:35
Kovecsesconrad_, but yes it should be10:35
ArasmpcHi, i'm having trouble with firefox on my work website...I want to view my schedule but it keeps saying the certificate is expired.  Can anyone help me?10:36
CFDevah i have installed ubuntu in server mode10:36
hungerCFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some outdated version of libstdc++. Which one of the outdated versions do you need?10:36
CFDevnot full installation10:36
naliothArasmpc: you should be able to click through the warning10:36
CFDevhere is the error msg: The installer was unable to determine if the C++ compatibility pack is10:36
CFDevinstalled by running the following command: rpm --query compat-libstdc++10:36
CFDevIf this machine uses a version of glibc that is 2.2.5.x or higher the10:36
CFDevcompatibility pack is necessary for C++ custom tags, Verity, and web server10:36
CFDevconnectors to work properly.10:36
hungerCFDev: Which program does need that lib?10:36
crimsun!tell owner about repos10:36
CFDevColdFusion verity support10:37
ArasmpcI do but then it gives me an error.10:37
pashawCFDev,   Dont do that again use pastebin10:37
CFDevsorry10:37
CFDevi just want to show the error msg10:37
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CFDevi just need to have compat-libstdc++10:37
pashaw!tell CFDev about pastebin10:37
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CFDevupps10:37
conrad_kovecses: can i send you the error10:38
indrekhey  i hav a question10:38
gnomefreak_awayalt+F2 during install will it give me ther errors or will i have to type something to see the errors?10:38
marc_Does anyone here use Cedega?  I lost the contents of my .transgaming folder10:38
Kovecsesconrad_, sure10:38
conrad_kovecses: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.kirya.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.kirya.net_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:38
hungerCFDev: Dunno whether there are still those really ancient versions of glibc around in ubuntu...10:38
dabaR!cedega10:39
ubotumethinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/10:39
naliothCFDev: please read the /topic and use a pastebin10:39
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marc_!cedega10:39
CFDevthe other question is about XLib support. I just need to have X libraries without installing all X Windows10:39
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Kovecsesconrad_, you didnt apt-get update10:39
conrad_aha10:39
yahaa_sweOMG, the folks in the #windows channel is easily teased :D10:39
CFDevthis is my firs time here. really sorry!10:39
Kovecsesnoobs10:39
naliothconrad_: you are using non official repos. this may cause your ubuntu to stop functioning properly10:39
naliothKovecses: please be civil.10:39
concept10What do you guys use to watch Quicktime 7 streaming giles10:39
concept10*files?10:39
trappistmplayer10:39
Kovecsesnalioth, how was i not civil10:39
Seveasconcept10, mplayer10:39
conrad_nalioth: but it is working for kovecses10:39
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CFDevi thought that irc would be a better alternative for quick answer10:40
naliothKovecses: 'noobs' is derogatory10:40
Kovecsesnalioth, oh come on10:40
marc_#cedega10:40
marc_whops10:40
CFDevbut here is lots of conversation and i could not explain my problem10:40
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SeveasKovecses: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct10:40
ompaulKovecses, have a look at the CoC10:40
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gnomefreak_away!coc10:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, conduct is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:40
gnomefreak_away:)10:40
dabaRCFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ is the faster alternative10:40
ompaulKovecses, Seveas just gave you a link10:40
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trappistack, I need to fix that definition10:41
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Kovecsesive read the code of conduct..... doesnt seem to mention the word noob10:41
y_o_uwhat program do i need to run in 5.04 to change to screen res? when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. i know I can add "sudo" to run something in root, but what do i run? thanks10:41
hungerdabaR: He will need libc5... Haven't seen that around:-(10:41
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pashawCFDev,   this a clean Ubuntu install?10:41
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CFDevi have two problem: 1. compat-libstdc++10:41
CFDevyeps but in server mode10:41
gnomefreak_awaythanks ompaul  :)10:41
SeveasKovecses, but it does mention being civil10:41
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CFDev2. xlibraries support without all xwindows10:41
ompaulKovecses, it is an attitude of mind more than a This word good that word bad :)10:41
superchode|fuany known issues installing ubuntu on a VIA EPIA mini-atx board?10:41
indreki cant listan to the music  whit  my linux10:41
dabaRCFDev: make sure you add all the possible repos. In the case you really like to find out about package availability through IRC, use /msg ubotu find keyword.10:41
Kovecsesis that the word of the day10:41
ITSa341Anyone know of a program comparable to MS Streets and Trips with GPS support that will run on Linux??10:41
ITSa341I'm trying to go 100% MS free on this laptop but I use MS Streets and Trips daily10:41
ZeroIRCHey, how do I setup Sendmail?10:41
concept10Quicktime 7 eats me up, mplayer, totem and vlc will not handle streams from Apple10:41
john_can anyone help please, when I log in to ubuntu I get this message: Could not look up internet address for ubuntu.10:41
john_This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.10:41
john_It may be possible to correct the problem by adding10:41
john_ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.10:41
trappistah, grammatical horror removed from the coc definition.10:41
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pashawCFDev,   ill have to try that sometime  why does it ask you to query using rpm10:42
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dabaR!enter10:42
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!10:42
conrad_hey people can you please not throw the book at kavecses. He was the only one willing to help and i did not find him uncivil10:42
naliothjohn_: please dont paste10:42
superchode|fuit's telling me the bios is messed and won't install, but memtest seems happy10:42
Kovecsesi wast being disrespectful10:42
CFDevbecause ubuntu is not supported as default10:42
alan__how do you mount a harddrive that you know the name eg: hdb2 i see it but cant seem to mount it10:42
Kovecsesi was kidding around10:42
dabaRKovecses: move on.10:42
conrad_nalioth: are you the police?10:42
CFDevdefault support is for redhat and suse10:42
CFDevi am trying to install on a ubuntu server10:42
pashaw!tell john_ about pastebin10:42
Kovecsesyou guys are so anal10:42
trappistalan__: mkdir foo && sudo mount /dev/hdb2 foo10:42
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ompaulKovecses, lets get on with the game shall we10:42
ompaulohh well too late10:42
Seveasompaul, by all menas10:42
alan__thx trap10:42
Seveasmeans even10:42
naliothKovecses: ok. just please note that some words you may find simple and non insulting, there are some that might.10:42
cowbudis there a website where one can see what latest debs got accepted in to dapper? accepted/uploaded..10:43
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conrad_is this the thought police here?10:43
Seveascowbud, check the ubuntu-changes mailinglist10:43
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pashawCFDev,   install what?10:43
Seveascowbud, or the accompanying RSS feed10:43
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dabaRKovecses: and just read the critic and move on. No unnecessary discussion, see how the channel is moving too fast already.10:43
CFDevcoldfusion installation10:43
cowbudSeveas: thanks10:43
CFDevMacromedia ColdFusion10:43
gerald-volthow do I lock my desktop10:43
ZeroIRCHello?10:43
y_o_uanyone here willing to help a noob with a screen res problem?10:43
trappistgerald-volt: xlock10:43
alan__mount: you must specify the filesystem type10:43
hungerCFDev: compat-* usually referes to glibc2.2 (libc5). Ubuntu does not support that ancient piece of code AFAIK. I am afraid you are out of luck. But maybe someone else knows better then me.10:43
pashawCFDev,     your question never said anything about that10:43
Seveasgerald-volt, system -> lock screen10:43
KnowerrorsIs there any talk of making a hardware/setup center similar in function to Drakeconfig or Yast for Ubuntu in future?10:43
trappist!tell y_o_u about fixres10:43
dabaRhunger: there is a libstdc++5 in the repos.10:44
naliothjohn_: i can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic10:44
pashawCFDev,   theres your problem not supported in Ubuntu    we cant fix it10:44
CFDevdo you think installation of RPMS would be solution10:44
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SeveasKnowerrors, fortunately not, Ubuntu is about making things work and not about users having to fumble around with it10:44
trappistCFDev: no10:44
CFDevi know i do not ask coldfusion part10:44
y_o_uthanks10:44
ZeroIRCCan someone please help me?10:44
CFDevi just want to get help for a library10:44
hungerdabaR: Yes... but that is build against libc6... and thus won't work.10:44
alan__trappist it said i must specify filesystem type10:44
dabaRZeroIRC: did you ask a question?10:44
ZeroIRCHey, how do I setup Sendmail?10:44
ZeroIRCyea10:44
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trappistalan__: do you know what kind of filesystem is on that device?  usually mount can guess if it's a supported fs10:45
Arasmpcit says blah blah using ocsp - unauthorized request  someone at work said I needed to add a new certificate but she uses windows and IE so it's not the same.  I tried to go into the certificate manager but it only searches my computer not the web...10:45
CFDevhow can i have compat-libstdc++ support on ubuntu10:45
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CFDevthat was the question10:45
pashawCFDev,   they already told you its outdated which prob means not gunna happen10:45
SeveasZeroIRC, hehe, read the documentation, seriously. sendmail is a beast :)10:45
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hungerCFDev: The best (and probably least doable) solution would be to get the vendor of your software to rebuild it against recent libraries.10:45
alan__its a kbuntu install with lots of music10:45
dabaRZeroIRC: however you want to. sudo dpkg-reconfigure sendmail10:45
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ZeroIRCIs there a better smtp server?10:45
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KnowerrorsSeveas: thats an important feature, for the times when things just don't work auto or are not configured right, thats unfortunate10:45
CFDevyou know this is not an opportunity now10:45
SeveasZeroIRC, postfix, courier10:45
CFDevand this is a general problem10:46
Vectracomo fao pra mudar minha senha do root????10:46
SeveasVectra, this is an english channel10:46
ZeroIRCSeveas, Which is better?10:46
Knowerrorsat least for newbies who don't want to mess with CLI alot or editing text config files10:46
CFDevanyway you do not know this question10:46
Vectraok10:46
crimsunCFDev: which version does it require?10:46
CFDevthe other one10:46
ompaulZeroIRC, have a look at postfix - it beats sendmail hands down10:46
ZeroIRCok10:46
SeveasVectra, #ubuntu-br for brazilian10:46
ZeroIRCThanks ompaul10:46
CFDevhoc can i install XLIBraries for graphing support for a J2EE server10:46
crimsunCFDev: you can install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 if it's looking for that.10:46
indrekenyone  who knows about ubantu linux  i hav  a quastion deemet:P10:46
ZeroIRCDo I need to download it?10:46
ompaulZeroIRC, unless you have tens of thousands of users10:46
crimsunCFDev: and which X libraries?10:46
ompauland even then it is debatable10:47
hungerCFDev: apt-get install xlibs10:47
koroI have language set to spanish, locale set to es_AR.UTF-8 and i have the problem that filenames whith accents show up wrong either in shell or in the gnome file manager (the latter adds a message "invalid encoding" after the filename in those cases). What can I do about that?10:47
ZeroIRCompaul, Do I need to download it, or does Ubuntu have it somewhere?10:47
CFDevi need xorg-x11-depreceated-libs10:47
hungerCFDev: That gives a fairly complete "xlibs" install... you might need to add others, but you should be set for the most things.10:47
nemZeroIRC, get it via synaptic or apt-get if it's not installed10:47
dabaRkoro: asked in #ubuntu-es?10:47
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korodabaR: yeah10:48
ompaulZeroIRC, well you download it for ubuntu - it is on the CD also >>sudo apt-get install postfix<<10:48
ZeroIRCthanks nem10:48
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korono replies at all, i think i have more chances here, since this may be a problem with other languages probably10:48
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ZeroIRCthanks alot you guys10:48
CFDevi just need xorg-x11-deprecated-libs10:48
indrekhelp   enyone  can i talk whit someone smart in  private ?10:48
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dabaRand sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales? you want the utf-8 version of your locale installed.10:48
koroyeah, i did that10:49
ompaul!anyone10:49
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:49
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Florobkoro: there was something about not using the .UTF-8 locales, but the ones without any extension which are also UTF-8 but IIRC10:49
ompaulindrek, read what ubotu said10:49
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kickseveasbuttseveas: fuck you. Fascist anal thought police. Why do yo goddam shut people down for no reason? Some power trip you're on. Enjoy it while it lasts10:49
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CFDevcan i copy paste technote page here for error msg10:49
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CFDevjust url10:49
CFDevhttp://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=b4818c0d10:49
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MickMcMackO_o;10:49
koroFlorob: i don't recall seeing those in locales, but i'll check10:49
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greenpenguin13its the day of the bannings...10:50
Seveasyeah10:50
Seveasand apparently the day of the trolls too10:50
Seveasi thought they would be gone after christma10:50
Seveass10:50
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greenpenguin13oh well :-p10:50
indrekkurat kas keegi siin eestikeelt kaa rgib we10:50
dabaRhaha.10:50
crimsunoh man, you missed last night, dennis10:50
Florobkoro: maybe i just made it up, but I believe it myself ;)10:50
hungerCFDev: I'd strongly recommend using one of the OSes supported by marcomedia!10:51
Seveasindrek, please stick to english in here10:51
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Seveascrimsun, that tone suggests that i didn't miss a thing :)10:51
CFDevthanks for your support on a ubuntu room :)10:51
ZeroIRCOk, I did sudo apt-get install postfix and it said10:51
ZeroIRCpostfix is already the newest version.10:51
ZeroIRC0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:51
crimsunSeveas: hehe10:51
koroFlorob: yeah, i only see UTF or ISO10:51
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CFDevi have normally debian for all of my servers10:51
dabaRZeroIRC: ya, it comes with ubuntu10:51
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CFDevbut this time i am just trying to install ubuntu10:51
hungerCFDev: Even though there support seems to suck (or why else are they requireing lots of compat/deprecated libs?).10:51
ZeroIRCSo, how do I use it, or config it?10:52
indrekkindlasti ma rgin  siin inglise keeles mu l  abi vaja see linux ei saa sellega ju musa kuulata10:52
CFDevthis is not because of macromedia this is because of VERITY which is a bundled search engine10:52
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koroFlorob: oh, curiously, when it lets me choose the default one, it does give the option "es_AR" without any extension10:52
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koroi'm trying that10:52
ompaulSeveas, seems some of them got it a little wrong "it is the season to be trolled" seems to be the motto10:52
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hungerCFDev: If you insist on using ubuntu, then grab the RPMS and check what they contain and install the proper ubuntu packages that provide that stuff.10:52
dabaRindrek: we do not understand that language at all. Please ask your question in english, we wil try to answer.10:52
indrekkas keegi oskab eesti keelt10:52
indreki need hlp10:53
Seveasindrek, last time: stick to english10:53
indrekhelp10:53
CFDevso i am just trying to get a quick solution by asking here10:53
dabaRindrek: we need your question to help10:53
Seveasand just tell what you need help with10:53
greenpenguin13which langage us that ? :/10:53
CFDevof course i know i can check all these rpms etc.10:53
dabaRprobably turkish.10:53
Seveasgreenpenguin13, estonian I guess :)10:53
ompaulindrek, ask your question10:53
kemikhungarian ?10:53
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indreki cant listan to music10:53
CFDevTrkce?10:53
kemikor finnihs10:53
dabaRya:) everyone has his idea.10:53
hungerCFDev: You won't. Nobody here knows how redhat packages its stuff...10:53
kemikfinnish10:53
Seveas!tell indrek about mp310:53
dabaRindrek: what, mp3 files?10:53
MrMaDSeNwho wrote Lords of the rings.. the triology?10:53
Arasmpc:( yes I am a "noob" but if not I wouldn't need your help.  Ok I'll admit it I am an idiot and I bow to your greatness.  Now will you please help me?  I just want to be able to find out what time to go to work tommorrow.10:53
trappistMrMaDSeN: tolkien10:53
SeveasMrMaDSeN, no offtopicness in here10:53
CFDevspeak for yourself10:54
trappistand that10:54
greenpenguin13#ubuntu-offtopic10:54
nemZeroIRC, you won't get around reading the postfix docs. configure via dpkg-reconfigure postfix i'd say.10:54
dabaRArasmpc: what? did you ask a question?10:54
CFDevhunger: i think you need a hamburger10:54
indrekseveas  can i talk pivate?10:54
ompaulindrek, read the instrctions the bot send you10:54
ZeroIRCthanks10:54
sethkArasmpc, I don't see a question from you10:54
dabaRindrek: just talk in here, we are all friends...10:54
yahaa_sweThis one aint Linux specific but anyway; it is possible to set up a server when you have a dynamic ip?10:54
pashawindrek,   language?10:54
Arasmpcyes, I was trying to findout how to get a new certificate10:54
kemikyahaa_swe:  yes10:54
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trappistyahaa_swe: yes, check out dyndns.org10:54
SeveasArasmpc, what kind of certificate?10:54
cowbudyahaa_swe: sure there are lots of dyn services..10:54
dabaRyahaa_swe: and ez-ipupdate10:54
cowbudno-ip.com10:55
indreksorry i am estonian :P10:55
Seveasha, I win :)10:55
ArasmpcI use a secure server to access my work info10:55
yahaa_sweok, thx all!10:55
gerald-voltwhat program is good for downloading music10:55
Arasmpcit says my certificate is expired10:55
CFDevthanks for your help i will try also forums :)10:55
dabaRno need to be sorry cause you are estonian, just ask, and answer questions, and read the web pages you are referred to.10:55
kemikit looked like finnish.. estonia-n is sortof the same ;)10:55
hungerCFDev: The necessary stuff might be in ubuntu (but frankly I doubt it), but you won't find it without some pretty good knowledge of what is needed (i.e. what redhat packaged).10:55
koroFlorob: heh, i don't know if it's an improvement... now instead of showing a "?" sign where an accented character is, it shows nothing :)10:55
SeveasArasmpc, probably it says that the server certificate expired10:55
CFDevi have already explained but ...10:55
CFDevanyway...10:55
ArasmpcI tried to go into the manage certificates thing but it just searches my computer10:55
Seveasyou should probably just ignore that erros10:55
dabaRSeveas: you win?10:55
Arasmpcyes seveas10:55
SeveasdabaR, I said estonian ;)10:56
dabaRah, ya.10:56
indrekbut  i kant lisen to the music in internet  at www.uno.ee  and  there are no sounds at all ..and speaker logo  has x onit10:56
dabaRwell, you are closest to there.10:56
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ArasmpcI click ok, but then it still gives me an error and then the site doesn't work10:56
sethkindrek, then unmute10:56
dabaRArasmpc: that is not related to you, it is the server has an old certificate10:56
SeveasArasmpc, what is the error then?10:56
Florobkoro: maybe a font problem, but i have no idea how to solve this if I'm honest10:56
gerald-voltwhats a good p2p program for mp3's10:56
ompaulyahaa_swe, yes but rules apply like the box must be on the internet or have its packets forwarded to there, search for "dnamic dns" for more info10:56
dabaRArasmpc: tell the page when asking a question like that.10:56
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indreki cant thats the problem10:56
Arasmpcoh, but a girl at work said she had to change something but she uses IE10:56
dabaRgerald-volt: I like gtk-gnutella10:56
Arasmpcthe page?10:57
dabaRArasmpc: tell us the URL...10:57
Arasmpcoh hold on10:57
SeveasArasmpc, please give some real info like the complete error or screenshots of the errors you get10:57
jordo23gerald-volt: I use azureus to download full albums10:57
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dabaRindrek: not all pages work in GNU/Linux cause of stupid ideas to use stupid technology by the web site creators.10:57
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Seveass!GNU/Linux!non-ie browsers!10:58
trappistwell there are also linux-specific issues, like shockwave10:58
hungerdabaR: BUt now that Microsoft is after the web develeopers to not do that since it breaks their new IE things will improve:-)10:58
niffehow do i remove firefox deer park?10:58
Seveasniffe, make uninstall10:59
trappistniffe: how did you install it10:59
indrekbut my computer dosn't make a sound at all10:59
Seveasniffe, tip: if you don't know how to remove things, don't install them.10:59
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Arasmpcit says psnwb200.jcpenney.com using ocsp - unauthorized request.11:00
ArasmpcI don't know how to do a screenshot...sorry11:00
pashawindrek,  no sound  ignore webpage then     type lspci      find multimedia device11:00
niffetrappist: .deb11:00
alan__http://pastebin.com/480770  shows my drives and im trying to reover the files on hdb2   but i cant seem to access it11:00
trappistniffe: apt-get remove11:00
dabaRArasmpc: what is the URL you type into the browser, is it that thing above?11:00
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hungeralan__: hdb2 is an extended partition.11:00
niffetrappist: well, i tryed that, then i apt-get install firefox and again that deer park11:01
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Florobindrek, maybe mixer-applet trys to control the wrong channel/soundcard?11:01
hungeralan__: That means it contains other partitions.11:01
alan__hunger which of those partions has the info?11:01
trappistniffe: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox* and try again11:01
yahaa_sweFollow up question; no-ip.com seems to be nice, anyone who have tested their free service?11:01
hungeralan__: Your data should be in hdb5.11:01
indrekand it  sayes     that  (deem i dont know hou to speak in english im estonian after all) but  it sayes that no devices were found if i klik the  speaker loggo11:01
alan__okay11:01
alan__thanks im trying11:01
aracan someone here help a very biginner (me) please?11:01
Arasmpcit used to say this Network Error (ssl_domain_invalid) but then I turned on ocsp11:01
ZeroIRCyahaa_swe, They are really good11:01
dabaR!helpme11:01
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:01
hungeralan__: BUT that is a LVM volume... so that contains even more partitions...11:01
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Arasmpchttps://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp I access the page through this11:02
hungeralan__: Do "/etc/init.d/lvm" as root.11:02
vaticanohow paint arroba? in consol???11:02
hungeralan__: That will create devices in /dev/mapper.11:02
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Florobindrek: what does "aplay -l" tell you11:02
do_whilehi11:02
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do_whilesomebody runs ubuntu over eMac11:02
do_while?11:02
Arasmpcit turns into https://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp11:02
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hungeralan__: One of those should contain the actual data.11:02
alan__... setting up...  etc  okay11:02
yahaa_sweZeroIRC, ok think i gonna try them11:02
pashawindrek,  is your language closer to any of these  middle of page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat11:02
alan__hunger how can i check now?11:03
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alan__thx for the help btw11:03
hungeralan__: "lvdisplay" gives a list of logical volumes.11:03
Arasmpcthen this https://pshrwb200.jcpenney.com:7401/psp/hcm/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/h/?tab=DEFAULT11:03
hungeralan__: Figure out which one could contain your data.11:03
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Arasmpcso the url changes11:03
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indrekdeem  quess im going to install windows again  linux is nt  for mee nothing in it  does not work11:04
alan__http://pastebin.com/480778  is what it said11:04
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alan__okay11:04
pashawindrek,   good luck11:04
dabaRArasmpc: it is some asp m$ thing, I do not know, I know I can not access my paycheck site on browsers other than IE.11:04
Arasmpcof course they don't have any support and NOONE at work knows anything at all11:04
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do_whilehi11:04
do_whilesomebody runs ubuntu over eMac11:04
do_while?11:04
sophtpawanyone help me with mplayer? apt-get couldn't resolve dependency issues. any suggestions?11:04
dabaRindrek: try to find a local linux user group to ask them questions.11:05
sagarpi got a new 250gb sata drive..previously i had a 160gb..130 for storage (fat32) and 30 for linux..does anyone have any suggestions how i should partition the new one together with the old one? i'd rather not have to span my storage across the two drives..=/ and i dont want to waste any space!11:05
hungeralan__: I'd go for /dev/Ubuntu/root.11:05
Arasmpcdarn...so there is no way to find a new certificate then?11:05
hungeralan__: Do you know which filesystem was used?11:05
alan__hunger do i mount that?11:05
dabaRArasmpc: what is the exact message you get?11:05
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alan__im not sure11:05
hungeralan__: Try "mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir"11:05
dabaRArasmpc: dont paste here if it is long, please.11:05
indreknever mind   im going  windows rules:P11:05
Florobsophtpaw, from which repository did you try to install it?11:05
dontblinkhey, just installed ubuntu, and i get to the screen where it is loading devices/drivers, and it hangs at the hotplug subsystem11:05
alan__its a kbuntu linux partition11:05
dabaRheh11:05
Arasmpcok hold on I'll do it again11:06
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dontblinkjust leaves it blank and then gives me a black screen with a cursor at the top left11:06
sophtpawFlorob: i wouldn't know. i used synaptic.11:06
do_whilesomebody runs ubuntu over eMac??11:06
KnowerrorsWhats best program/way to backup my root partition to a dvd?11:06
ArasmpcNetwork Error (ssl_domain_invalid)11:06
dabaRdontblink: is that computer right beside you?11:06
alan__hunger do i actually type in some dir or use a real one?11:06
hungeralan__: It is most probably an ext3 filesystem then... use -o ro to mount it readonly (just to make sure you do not accidentally damage your data).11:06
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trappistdontblink: it sounds like X is failing to start11:06
dabaRdontblink: hehe, I know why you have that nick now.11:06
hungeralan__: You use a real (and preferably empty) one.11:06
gerald-voltiin a config file where I have to specify a directory in quotes, how does the syntax go if my dir path has a space in it11:07
dontblinktrappist: any solution?11:07
SeveasArasmpc, that looks like something VERY specific to your work server, better assk the admins there11:07
Florobsophtpaw, so which dependancys could not be found?11:07
trappistdontblink: depends on the problem.  is this a new install? did you do something just before this started? etc.11:07
dontblinkdabar: lol what are you talking about11:07
gerald-voltfor example11:07
gerald-volt"/media/windows/Documents and Settings"11:07
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dabaRgerald-volt: try blah\ and\ blah11:07
trappistgerald-volt: Documents\ and\ Settings11:07
dontblinktrappist: um, new install, just d/l the latest version and burned it, then installed (i had the setup format the drive for me)11:07
Arasmpcok...thanks anyhow.  Maybe I can get it fixed tommorrow when my hubby has time.  Again thank you for your time.11:08
dabaRis that computer beside you, dontblink ?11:08
hungeralan__: Does it work?11:08
dabaRwelcome.11:08
trappistdontblink: step 1: choose failsafe at the grub prompt11:08
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aracan someone do instant chat to me please? i have some questions11:08
dontblinkdabar:yeah, lol11:08
trappistdontblink: so at least you'll have a usable console11:08
sophtpawFlorob: libribidi0; libgcc1;  libjack011:08
niffetrappist: no help :/ but when im removing it with apt-get it says Removing firefox ...11:08
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Florobsophtpaw: BTW if you used synaptic, why is it apt-get that can't resolve the dependancy issues11:08
niffefind: warning: you have specified the -depth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-depth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments. and when i type firefox in the console, it starts the deerpark edition11:08
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trappistara: nobody's going to volunteer to help you in private without even knowing the problem11:08
sophtpawlibstdc++6  ftoo11:08
pashawara,   ask here it may help other people11:08
dabaRdontblink: well, ya, then do alt+ctrl+f1.11:08
dontblinktrappist: alright, working on it....11:08
dontblinkdabar: then that gets you a console11:09
alan__hunger not yet keeps saying erron for mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir11:09
dabaRdontblink: it does? then you have to install the drivers for your ati/nvidia.11:09
sophtpawflorob: same thing isn't it? I understand syanptic simply to be the front end (gui) for apt-get. Have i got that wrong?11:09
hungeralan__: What kind of error?11:09
dabaRwtheck is up with there beign 2 graphs card manufacturers?11:09
odatany opinions about xine vs VLC ?11:09
dabaRI mean, only 2.11:09
do_whilesomebody runs ubuntu over eMac11:09
do_while?11:09
trappistdabaR: there's more than two11:09
dabaRya?11:09
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trappistdabaR: a lot more11:10
dabaRdo_while: ask your question.11:10
arai'm trying to install a software, on the terminal window it says "permission denied" and when i use "Sudo" command it says command to found, what should i do?11:10
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dabaRtrappist: I mean, for a non-onboard graphs card.11:10
alan__hunger  http://pastebin.com/48078611:10
dontblinktrappist:okay, got the ctrl+alt+f1 thing...am i in the right place?11:10
Florobsophtpaw: well they seem to use the same library or something, but actually I have no idea about there inner working, but apt-get is defnitly not equal synaptic11:10
dabaRara: it is sudo, not Sudo11:10
dabaRdontblink: what is the graphs card you have?11:10
trappistdontblink: if that got you to a console login, yes11:10
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arathat's what i type11:10
pashawara,    what software using what command11:10
sophtpawflorob: well neither can install mplayer11:11
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alan__hunger when i do ext3 on that command it agve no error11:11
dabaRsophtpaw: did you add multiverse?11:11
arawhat software i'm trying to install you mean?11:11
dabaR!mplayer11:11
uboturumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:11
dontblinkdabar:i dont really know, some old 32mb one just testing ubuntu out11:11
hungeralan__: Good. Do you see your files in /some/dir now?11:11
alan__hunger thanks alot11:11
do_whiledabaR gnome it's biggest than monitor11:11
dabaRdontblink: well, find out.11:11
do_whilei not see complety menu bar11:11
hungeralan__: You are welcome.11:11
dabaRdo_while: what, your resolution?11:11
Florobsophtpaw, did you add anything to /etc/apt/sources.list?11:11
alan__yes !!  but now can i see them in konqueror as well?11:11
pashawara,   yes11:12
do_while128011:12
sophtpawdabaR: as far as i know i've got everything jacked up. including multiverse, yes11:12
arai'm trying to do real player11:12
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trappistdabaR: check out matrox11:12
dabaRdo_while: well, then, adjust your monitor for one, and for two, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:12
odatxine vs vlc?  trying to decide11:12
dontblinktrappist:i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and the screen changed, and it proceeded to run through the processes/drivers loading again11:12
sophtpawflorob: yes, but i've removed it11:12
hungeralan__: This logical volume management thingy is really cool sometimes, even though I bet it confused the hell out of you today;-) Don't give up on it.11:12
pashaw!tell ara about realplayer11:12
do_whilethanks dabaR11:12
dabaRsophtpaw: then "aptitude search mplayer"11:12
trappistdontblink: try ctrl-alt-f211:12
Florobsophtpaw: could you put it in the pastebin11:13
dontblinktrappist:will do.11:13
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dabaRsophtpaw: if it returns results, install the one for your computer, and if it does not, then add multiverse.11:13
dontblinktrappist:ctrl-alt-f2 does nothing11:13
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alan__hunger im very thankful.. im just wondering do i need to move the files i now see in command line or can i get konqueror to mount that drive?11:13
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dabaRalan__: konqueror will do if you will copy the files. to move, you would have to use sudo, or a graphical front-end equal11:14
hungeralan__: Point konqueror to /some/dir11:14
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odatanyone?11:14
hungeralan__: That should give you the list of files right now.11:14
alan__ok i'll try11:14
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hungeralan__: Or do you want access to those files permanently?11:15
pashawodat,   i have bith11:15
alan__yes i want to move them onto my harddrive11:15
dabaRodat: your question is not good. SOme people like this some that, that is why both those programs exist. Noqw go try one, and then try the other, and come tell us which one you should have chosen.11:15
pashawodat,   err both installed11:15
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dabaRalan__: copying will do, really. you have no need for moving them.11:15
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john_anyone know how to add ubuntu to the /etc/hosts file?11:16
alan__whats the copy directory ?11:16
alan__command11:16
hungeralan__: cp11:16
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odatdabaR, k i have vlc installed and i like it but if i try to install xine it wants to uninstall gstreamer and well i want to keep it i think that is why i came here because if xine is a lot better than i'll check it out  its called opinions and i was looking for some sheesh11:16
Florobjohn_, have you tried adding it to the /etc/hosts file?11:17
john_how do I add it tho?11:17
john_what do I add?11:17
hungerjohn_ Is there a line starting with 127.0.0.1?11:17
john_the word "ubuntu"?11:17
sophtpawflorob: thank you11:17
pashawjohn_,   huh?   127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost  is your ubuntu11:17
john_no there is northing11:17
sophtpawdabaR: thank you11:17
sophtpawthanks guys11:17
alan__whats the paste command for after?11:18
john_the only line I have is # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts11:18
hungerjohnm: Add a line reading "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" then.11:18
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pashawjohn_,    type  cat /etc/hosts      first line11:18
Florobsoptpaw, so how did you solve your problem?11:18
dontblinkAre there any typical reasons for it to hang at the Hotplug Subsystem loading?11:18
john_pashaw, is that it, is the word ubuntu not int here at all?11:19
dabaRalan__: "man cp" use konqueror, and browse to the folder where you mounted the drive.11:19
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ElitePetei notice in Gparted i have a partition /dev/sda2/ it's "extended" what does this mean exactly?11:19
tatahola11:19
dabaRhola tata11:19
pashawjohn_,   did you "name" your computer ubuntu  or a diff name11:19
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tatatata11:19
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trappistdontblink: do you have any notable devices plugged into, say, a usb slot that it could be hanging up on?11:19
john_ubuntu i believe11:19
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hungerElitePete: HDs in DOS were limited to 4 partitions.11:19
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Florobjohn_, which pc do you want to add to your hosts file exactly? and what does that have to do with ubuntu11:19
pashawjohn_,    what word it at the END of the first line  thats what you named your computer11:20
Kumohi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after closing down suddenly some programs11:20
ElitePetehunger, ?11:20
dabaRSeveas: it was you all the time? I had no idea, the z was tricky...11:20
john_pashaw, so  cat /etc/hosts on the first line and 127....etc on the 2nd line?11:20
hungerElitePete: To get around that limit "extended" partitions were invented: They can contain additional partiotions.11:20
dontblinktrappist:no, unfortunately.  I have a pci and an onboard video, although the latter is disabled.  Could that be the problem?11:20
SeveasdabaR, yes, all 5 seconds :)11:20
ElitePetehunger, ahh i want to add a partition for storing some things, how do i do this in gparted ?11:20
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trappistdontblink: I wouldn't think so, but it's not impossible11:20
dabaRPygi: welcome11:20
john_pashaw, so change localhost to ubuntu?11:20
pashawjohn_,   make the window  full screen  to read it bettwer11:20
pashawjohn_,   dont change anything11:21
john_it is11:21
john_ok11:21
pashawjohn_,   what are you trying to do11:21
john_i added the two lines11:21
hungerElitePete: Never used gparted. If you want more then 4 partiotions then one hof the first 4 has to be extended though.11:21
john_trying to stop the message saying it cant find ubuntu in the /etc/hosts file11:21
PygidabaR: thanks11:21
pashawjohn_,   huh?  did you erase your original hosts file?11:21
john_well i didn't somehow its gona11:21
ElitePetehunger, it says i have /dev/sda1/ which is the bootable, a linux swap and the extended now11:21
hungerElitePete: sda5 to whatever are stored "in" the extended one.11:21
john_well the file hasnt but the contents have11:21
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pashawjohn_,   lol  ok   1 sec11:21
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john_strange how my config dialog for networking has gone too11:22
john_pashaw, i swear I never touched it! I just booted and got that message after messing about in the gnome network config11:22
pashawjohn_,   127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <putername>      <-only required line11:22
dontblinktrappist:Any other advice?  The ctrl-alt-f2 thing didn't do anything, and as I said ctrl-alt-f1 changes the screen, but the processes keep loading.11:22
hungerElitePete: You could delete the extended one then and add one more "normal" partition or you can add a sda5 inside the extended one.11:22
ElitePetehunger, when i click the extended one, i have no options11:23
pashawjohn_,   edit the <putername>  to your choice11:23
john_ok11:23
hungerElitePete: Assuming there is no sdaX with X >= 4.11:23
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ElitePetehunger, i think not.11:23
sagarphow can i use the latest version of reiserfs if i have a breezy install disk??11:23
hungerElitePete: I have never used gparted, sorry.11:23
john_pashaq, do I still want the cat line u gave me as the 1st line or do I have that line as 1st?11:24
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ElitePetehunger, what do you use?11:24
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hungerElitePete: When partitioning I need full control (== fdisk) ;-)11:24
ElitePetehunger, i see i am not advanced enough for that11:24
hungerElitePete: No GUI, just plain track numbers;-)11:24
ElitePetehunger, lol, i would die11:24
ElitePetehunger, i really would like to add a partition for downloads, can you help me?11:24
pashawElitePete,   resizing or partitoning?11:24
naliothjohn_: as long as you have 127.0.0.1 and 'ubuntu' in the same line, you'll be fine (don't remove anything that's there)11:25
ElitePetepashaw, i have alot of free space, i want a seperate filesystem for downloads, so incase of system failure etc.11:25
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flodineanyone ever use pekwm on breezy?11:25
pashawElitePete,   try cfdisk   easier11:25
hungerElitePete: That has nothing to do with "advanced". I consider gparted more advanced then fdisk...11:25
john_nalioth, theres nowt there mate lol11:25
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sethkElitePete, that makes no sense11:25
yahaa_sweIf I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use on startup?11:25
john_nalioth, I think I remember how I did it but I wont day cos its stupid11:25
john_schoolboy error11:25
hungerElitePete: It is just that I have always used fdisk... and never got round to this newfangled stuff;-)11:25
ElitePetehunger, lol11:26
ElitePetepashaw, cfdisk ?11:26
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hungerElitePete: Is there still unpartitioned space on your HD?11:26
pashawElitePete,   boot linux  login type  sudo cfdisk /dev/???11:26
ElitePetehunger, no, it's all been allocated11:26
ElitePeteinto /dev/sda1/ mostly11:27
hungerElitePete: Then this is tricky:-)11:27
john_how do I save in nano?11:27
hungerElitePete: Whatever you do: MAKE BACKUPS!11:27
ElitePetehunger, i guess ill just forget about it11:27
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naliothjohn_: ctrl-o <enter>  saves ctrl-x closess11:27
pashawjohn_,   what cat line       john  i ment for you to type in a terminal >   cat /etc/hosts    <-- thats your hosts file11:27
Pygihunger: cfdisk only resizes partitions, but not filesystems...11:27
john_permission denied?11:28
Pygijohn: sudo ....11:28
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yahaa_sweIf I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use?11:28
pashawjohn_,   you dont need sudo you cat that file11:28
naliothjohn_: you have to reboot into rescue mode11:29
hungerElitePete: You might want to look into LVM. That makes managing drives so much easier in the long run.11:29
john_whats cat?11:29
ElitePetehunger, LVM ?11:29
pashawjohn_,   its like  show me   inside11:29
hungerElitePete: Logical Volume Management.11:29
john_ok so how do I edit it11:29
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ElitePetehunger, is that in apt-get ?11:29
john_cant save it no permission11:29
john_and cant sudo as there is no host11:29
john_catch 2211:29
pashawjohn_,   follow nalioths advice11:29
john_need to do it from recovery?11:29
john_ok11:30
hungerElitePete: Basically a abstraction of harddrives.11:30
niffehow i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?11:30
john_so do I need all the spaces after 127.0.0.111:30
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hungerElitePete: It even is in the default install:-)11:30
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ElitePetehunger, do i want to do lvcreate ? a logical volume11:30
pashawhunger,    thats not beginner level11:30
hungerElitePete: It is not that easy...11:30
pashawhunger,   hes scared of fdisk    lvm  not rdy11:31
ElitePetehunger, i want something like partition magic, ez and graphical :-)11:31
hungerElitePete: LVs are basically "virtual" partitions.11:31
MoeenAnybody tried resize_reiserfs ? is it safe ?11:31
ElitePetei need partition magic :-)11:31
newbustesting11:31
pashawElitePete,     try cfdisk     quit if you get scarfed11:31
ElitePetepashaw, scared already11:31
pashawElitePete,   ack  my typing  *scared11:31
hungerElitePete: Then LVM is not for you. It just helps to rearrange stuff inside LVM.11:31
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ElitePetepashaw, ill just buy another HD for backups i suppose11:32
KnowerrorsIf I move my /home to another partition, what do I need to edit to tell ubuntu where to look for it? just fstab? or is this more involved?11:32
rem_you guys are the elite of computer nerds11:32
pashawElitePete,    try cfdisk  its much easier to read than fdisk    fdisk is ole faithful tho11:32
MoeenElitePete, I have some experience that Partition Magic destroyed some of Datas. becareful about it, and it's better to not use it at all11:32
rem_oops...wif got her hands on my kb .. :P11:32
hungerElitePete: It does not change the partitioning of your drives. It just grabs some partitions on them and turns them into "virtual drives" that you can group, rearrange and partition.11:32
Florobdid i overlook the argument for not using gparted?11:32
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ElitePetehunger, when i had XP i had 4 partitions, 1 for C:/system 1 for storage, 1 for music etc11:33
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pashawKnowerrors,  fstab entry for sure11:33
mcjerryElitepete : partition magic is not as reliable as paragons 7tools partition manager11:33
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hungerElitePete: What keeps you from doing something similar in linux?11:34
ElitePetehunger, the fear11:34
hungerElitePete: I have more then 10 partitions:-)11:34
ElitePetehunger, of having to reinstall ubuntu and set everything up again11:34
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hungerElitePete: Oh... that fear can be combated with backups.11:35
Knowerrorspashaw: anything else?  Im wanting to make a seperate partition for all my media files, and move my /home with all settings to a smaller partition11:35
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arnoldhow do i update the gfx driver? my card is an:Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device11:35
arnoldit is an acer laptop11:35
arnoldanybody got the same card?11:35
koroAnyone knows how to get console to display properly accents?11:36
niffehow i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?11:36
Knowerrorspashaw: nevermind, I'll just make a seperate /home/media folder, and keep /home/user untouched11:36
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pashawKnowerrors,   easy im not fast   here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4686611:36
Florobniffe, how did you install deer park11:36
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hungerElitePete: And if you ever decide to repartition create one small partition for /boot and the rest goes into one or more partitions of type "Linux LVM".11:37
visik7how can I remove totem plugin from firefox ?11:37
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Kumohi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly11:37
ElitePetehunger, i wish you lived near me to show me how :-)11:38
arnoldanybody??11:38
koroHow do I set the default application used to play muisic, videos, etc?11:38
hungerElitePete: The ubuntu installer does all the heavy lifting for you:-)11:38
ElitePetekoro, right click the type and select "opens with"11:38
korothanks11:39
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hungerElitePete: It does handle LVM. There are HOWTOs for it as well.11:39
ElitePetehunger, too bad i'm a strong guy not a technical guy :-P11:39
niffeFlorob: from deb file11:39
mcjerryvisik7 in synaptic do a complete removal of totem-xine-firefox-plugin11:39
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Florobvisik7, you have to completely uninstall totem-gstreamer (which also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop) or find out where the plugin file is stored and move it away11:40
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hungerElitePete: I am reinstalling to a new HD right now:-)11:40
ElitePetehunger,  :-P11:40
Florobniffe: start aptitude and look for a firefox in the obsoltet packages section, remove that one11:40
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hungerElitePete: Well, reinstalling is too much... Copying files over to my new disk.11:41
niffeFlorob: aptitude? ;p11:41
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ElitePetehunger, when dapper comes out am i going to lose everything?11:41
ElitePetehunger, because i'll definently want to upgrade11:41
hungerElitePete: Nope. You just dist-upgrade.11:41
gnomefreak_awayduring install if you get errors i was told to press alt+F2 will that give me full error list? or do i need a command to see the errors?11:41
ElitePetehunger, :-)11:41
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ElitePetehunger, i moved to linux because i was tired of reinstalling XP monthly due to bullsh!t11:42
arnoldanybody? the card is an Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device11:42
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hungerElitePete: I have not reinstalled in a couple of years now...11:42
ScootaDootashould be built into Xfree8611:42
gnomefreak_awaygood choice ElitePete11:42
ElitePetegnomefreak_away, thanks11:42
ElitePeteim loving ubuntu11:42
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Florobniffe: well, maybe synaptic has such a section, too11:43
ompaulgnomefreak_away, they will be there in all their glory and if you want to scroll back a screen this may work hit scroll lock and press page up11:43
edy_123hola11:43
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alan__hunger i got disconnected could u please tell me that command to mount /dev/Ubuntu/root ?   it didnt stay in the console memory11:43
ompaulgnomefreak_away, did anyone tell you you that you were not away :)11:43
hungerElitePete: this box started out as a debian/unstable a couple of years back... which I kept updating till today (dapper).11:43
gnomefreak_awayok ty ompaul11:43
alan__im sorry to be a pain11:43
djtanseyhas anyone here done a low-mem install of ubuntu?11:43
hungeralan__: mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir11:43
ompaulgnomefreak_away, if you type /away Some Reason then anyone talking to you gets told that you are away and it does not create noise on the channels you are on :)11:43
alan__thx a lot11:44
gnomefreak_awaylol yes but if i change back it will be useless :( im waiting for k3b to install so i can burn dapper again11:44
ElitePetehunger, whats the cmd to edit my repos?11:44
ElitePetehunger, oh your on dapper already.11:44
hungerElitePete: I copied the data over form one HD to another whenever I got a new laptop in the meantime...11:44
gnomefreak_awaycool thank ompaul  i didnt know that :)11:44
ElitePetewhats the cmd to edit my repos list?11:44
hungerElitePete: I use vi... but some gui thingy like does that too IIRC:11:44
pashawarnold,   in terminal type  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf         find the "device" section for your graphics and tell us what "driver" it says your using11:45
hungerElitePete: synaptic is one IIRC.11:45
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ElitePetehunger i mean like11:45
alan__hunger if cp copys a folder or file what pastes it?11:45
ElitePetewith sudo gedit11:45
gnomefreak_awayElitePete, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sopources.list11:45
ElitePetegnomefreak_away, thanks11:45
gnomefreak_awaydamn11:45
hungeralan__?11:45
gnomefreak_awaysources*11:45
gnomefreak_awayyw11:45
arnoldi81011:45
niffeFlorob: how can i uninstall it with aptitude? i pressed g and it says nothing will be removed or installed11:45
naliothElitePete: gksudo gedit. use gksudo to open gui gnome apps and kdesu to open kde apps as superuser. doing it otw can scramble your permissions11:45
hungeralan__: "cp fileA fileb" copies filea to fileb.11:45
alan__cp copies it but how to you put that copy somewhere?11:45
alan__ok11:46
alan__i see11:46
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hungeralan__: There is no "Paste" on the commandline.11:46
Enlil_Ishtarhello11:46
Florobniffe, when the package is marked press "-" that press "g"11:46
pashawarnold,   should be good   anything wrong?11:46
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mcjerryalan__ cp <file to copy> <where to copy to>11:46
hungeralan__: cp might use the permissins, etc. Is that OK for your usecase?11:47
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arnoldI am trying to start a game called tribal trouble and i get an error: Could not create glx context11:47
Pygiarnold: install OpenGL11:47
alan__i cant steer konqueror there because i cant open it as root11:48
Enlil_IshtarI've a big problem. When I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, the sound sometimes disappear, and I have to move on the track with the cursos if I want it to come back -- a few moments :/11:48
Pygialan: use sudo11:48
guiboa noite11:48
naliothalan__: type 'kdesu konqueror' DO NOT USE SUDO11:48
pashawgui,   language?11:48
djtanseyhas anyone done a hd-media install of ubuntu?11:48
guipt-br11:48
naliothPygi: using sudo to open gui apps will cause permission problems11:48
nalioth!br11:48
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.11:48
hungernalioth: Please do not suggest doing that!11:48
alan__it says kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.011:49
naliothhunger: excuse me?11:49
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Kumohi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly11:49
Kumoanybody?11:49
arnoldBut ive just tried tuxracer, it works fine. Dont it  use opengl??11:49
Enlil_Ishtarnobody can help me?11:49
hungernalioth: Konqui is a monster that does even load other stuff. Running that as root is really suicidal IMHO.11:49
arnoldhow do i tjeck if it is installed??11:49
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naliothhunger: and running it as sudo is the worst way. using kdesu will preserve all your user permissions in place11:50
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niffeFlorob: it worked! thx11:50
hungernalioth: Of course your suggestion should work... but it is definitly nothing root should use IMHO.11:50
naliothPygi: if you need to suggest someone open a gui app with superuser priveleges, advise them of gksudo for gnome apps and kdesu for kde apps11:51
`NomadHi.. Could someone help me with installing a Samsung Printer driver in Kubuntu, KDE 3.5?  I'm missing a simple permission issue with CUPS I think11:51
`NomadI have a Samsung ML-2010 that comes with it's own drivers..  Using their install, I get prompted for an admin password while trying to add the printer.. I can't get that authentication accepted to continue.11:51
UbuntuNewbieI am having **so** much trouble trying to set up a dual-boot partition.  My primary boot partition is 200GB NTFS; supposing I want 20GB for Ubuntu -- can I safely resize the NTFS partition to 180 GB -- The NTFS partition is about 25% full with Windows stuff; I don't want to erase the Windows partition.  Is it possible to do this using the partition utility that came with Ubuntu?11:51
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`NomadI gave root a password, and also to cupsys which is what cupsd runs under11:51
naliothhunger: thank you. you are correct. some users feel the need to have a superuser enabled gui program, and using gksudo or kdesu is the safer method to start those11:51
`Nomadbut when I try those as teh admin names and password I get rejected11:51
arnoldanything?11:52
pashawUbuntuNewbie,   didnt you have a spare drive  use that one11:52
Pyginalioth: yesh, yesh, I know....anyway, konquerer with superuser priveleges is not for anyone if you don't know what you are doin'11:52
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hungernalioth: So are you. Running them in kdesu is better then running them with sudo... but having to run them at all makes me feel itchy:-(11:52
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naliothPygi: correct, but starting them with the correct commands will save a lot of trouble in the future11:53
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Pyginalioth: yup, true...11:53
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hungerUbuntuNewbie: It should be possible... it should work... I wouldn't do it (without lots of backups).11:53
arnoldpashaw?Got any ideas?11:53
`Nomadwhat is teh difference between kdesu and sudo?11:53
naliothubotu: tell `Nomad about kdesu11:54
`Nomadoh wow, thanks!11:54
hungerSee you later.11:54
gnomefreak_awayubotu knows kde stuff and not gksudo :(11:54
ubotuNo idea, gnomefreak_away11:54
naliothubotu: tell gnomefreak_away about gksudo11:55
UbuntuNewbieI guess my question is -- if I want a 20 GB ubuntu partition -- do I size the drive to 20 GB or 180 GB  -- it defaulted to 200 GB (the NTFS partition, I mean)11:55
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gnomefreak_awayit didnt work for me :(11:55
Pygignomefreak: well, I think ubotu is open to suggestions :)11:55
gnomefreak_awayty nalioth11:55
alan__hunger how do you unmount a mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root   ??11:56
Pygihehe :)11:56
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pashawarnold, does glxgears run?11:56
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Pygialan: umount11:56
tjb13hey guys, is there like a wiki with a bunch of guides for setting up ati graphics, processor freq scaling, etc... is everything compiled into the kernel by default, i just came from gentoo so bear with me11:56
trappisttjb13: your video card and frequency scaling are disparate enough subjects that "etc." is hard to interpret.11:57
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GNULinuxGeekUpdated to Breezy but now cannot play DVDs using the computer.  Do I need to update something else?11:57
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arnoldYes fine11:58
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pashawarnold,  my games system has nvidia card      not sure about your error then11:58
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UbuntuNewbiemy main gripe is the Wiki tends to be a bit vague....11:59
pashawarnold,  could try forums or google for that game and your error11:59
tjb13trappist, well... how do i get power management stuff to work11:59
tjb13like frequency scaling and sleep11:59
tjb13?11:59
tjb13thanks for your help btw11:59
wizardjamesrar command (for vobsub compression)   what would i put or need to make this work?  the program i am useing right now has it set at    rar-2.8011:59
pashawarnold,   your video driver seems fine tho11:59
Unitywhat is the difference between mozilla browser and firefox?11:59
arnoldIve tried, The only solution seems to be an update, but i am not sure how i do it11:59
gnomefreak_awayUbuntuNewbie, i dont find most of them vague at all but im getting kind of used to reading them :)11:59

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