[12:00] <GnarlyBob> pashaw: ok, I'll try that, thanks for the suggestion
[12:00] <pashaw> GnarlyBob,   if knoppix works  then we can get this working
[12:00] <paulproteus|lapt> GnarlyBob: Go to your BIOS and reset the ECSD data.
[12:00] <braniff> i know my videocard will refresh vertically at a rate higher than 60hz, but i can't adjust it higher than that in ubuntu.....how do i increase the rate ??
[12:00] <Shadyman> Native support doesnt exist for my wireless card
[12:00] <paulproteus|lapt> That might fix the ACPI problems.
[12:00] <GnarlyBob> (date of release of this machine, btw, is June 05)
[12:00] <apokryphos> PEPE01: English only in here please.
[12:00] <GnarlyBob> ECSD... I don't remember seeing anything like that in the BIOS
[12:00] <pashaw> GnarlyBob,   i know  945 chipset  sweet machine but    way new
[12:00] <DaBlue> braniff,  check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: Sorry, I should be more precise, I have tried a reboot.  This is a fresh install of Breezy
[12:01] <GnarlyBob> pashaw: yeah, nice hardware, but I still wish I had bought the AMD64 I went for :\
[12:01] <DaBlue> scan through it and you'll find the resolutions with associated refresh rates
[12:01] <PEPE01> Kad bi znao
[12:01] <braniff> DaBlue, what do i look for in there??
[12:01] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: That should be equivalent to a reboot.
[12:01] <bashed_> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6220
[12:01] <paulproteus|lapt> Try doing Alt-F2 xterm
[12:01] <GnarlyBob> I think it's because this one has a remote control and that was the clincher
[12:01] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: Already done that, XTerm launches without a problem
[12:02] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: What about Alt-F2 gnome-terminal ?
[12:02] <pashaw> GnarlyBob,   newest i have is (2)  865 chipset machines
[12:02] <bashed_> also, I am having a problem accessing google.com. and this is affecting other sited that use google ads.. it seems like whenever firefox tries to access google, it stop at "connecting to www.google.com"
[12:02] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: Same Deal...
[12:02] <bashed_> any ideas?
[12:02] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: I have also done an apt-get remove/install and still nothing
[12:02] <filip_> What does i need to get w32codec?
[12:03] <dabaR> bashed_: try purging your iptables rules. Maening resetting yoru firewall. "sudo iptables --flush"
[12:03] <Kyral> or just -F
[12:03] <bashed_> dabaR, I am using firestarter tho, will that affect the protection?
[12:03] <apokryphos> filip_: eh?
[12:03] <jacrespo> hi all
[12:03] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: Hmm.  I would guess there's something odd about the permissions.
[12:03] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how i use x11 mouse themes?
[12:03] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: Do this from xterm:
[12:03] <GnarlyBob> reset the BIOS to all defaults (probably a good thing anyway, I've mucked about in there a lot) - still won't get through boot without the acpi/apic flags
[12:04] <filip_> what is it i need to play mp3 is not that w32codec?
[12:04] <brejo> alguem q fale portugues?
[12:04] <Shadyman> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:04] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: Actually, wait - what is your username on the Ubuntu setup?
[12:04] <apokryphos> !pt
[12:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:04] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: mike
[12:04] <zool2005> can anyone tell me if its possible to change the language for the gnome dictionary applet from english to french?
[12:05] <bashed_> dabaR, i tried flushing it, but then the internet stopped working. I restarted firestarter and it came back on
[12:05] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: sudo chown -Rv mike /home/mike
[12:05] <Sepheebear> filip_: you need libmad
[12:05] <brejo> valeu
[12:05] <Sepheebear> filip_: but it depends on what app you're using to listen to mp3
[12:05] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: Do that from the xterm; it "ch"anges the "own"ership "R"ecursively and "v"erbosely on your home directory to mike.
[12:05] <AJ359> anyone know where can i get a copy of the kernal source code used in Ubuntu 5.10??
[12:05] <bashed_> dabaR, in firestarter, i set "ppp0" to be the internet connected device, and "eth1" to be the local one. nothing for eth0 which is the physical device that connects to the dsl modem
[12:05] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: Yep - Just did that and nothing dong
[12:06] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: "nothing dong"?
[12:06] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: Ownership is not changed
[12:06] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: Well, try gnome-terminal again, "just in case"....
[12:07] <mike998> paulproteus|lap: This is the only account... I have also tried to do the gnome-terminal again, and still get the same error
[12:07] <bashed_> now pastebin.ubuntu-nl.com is stuck at "connecting to ads.googlesyndication.com"
[12:07] <bashed_> :(
[12:08] <bashed_> I don't know where to start
[12:08] <mike998> paulproteus|lapt: This IS strange... sudo gnome-terminal works fine
[12:08] <paulproteus|lapt> mike998: I think it has to do with the settings your user has in /home/mike/.gnome2/  .
[12:08] <fr> I followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?
[12:08] <paulproteus|lapt> What's the error again?
[12:08] <kaffeend> morning all
[12:08] <Nevis> hello.
[12:08] <mike998> paulproteus|lapt: Agreed... I'll check it out and see what is there
[12:09] <dabaR_> bashed_: don't do the flush thing, it is not healthy.
[12:09] <bashed_> dabaR_, i restarted firestarter and its fine now
[12:09] <Ophiocus> !serial
[12:09] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Ophiocus
[12:09] <dabaR_> bashed_: which is fine? the google, or the disconnections?
[12:09] <AJ359> where can i get a copy of the ubuntu kernal source code??
[12:09] <AJ359> anyone?
[12:10] <bashed_> dabaR_, the internet. when i flushed, i couldnt use the internet anymore, the other 2 issues are still happening
[12:10] <cafuego> AJ359: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[12:10] <bashed_> dabaR, it seems tho if i restart firefox, google *sometimes* works
[12:10] <paulproteus|lapt> bashed_: Do you think it's a DNS problem?
[12:10] <t|away> for all of you who want msn webcam support, amsn 0.95 has it
[12:10] <paulproteus|lapt> Try adding 128.151.2.1 to your resolv.conf .
[12:10] <bashed_> paulproteus|lapt, no. firefox resolves the dns (i think),
[12:10] <rosendahl__> I need to add a few lines to my sources.file list so I can add more repos ... but where do I find it ?
[12:11] <bashed_> paulproteus|lapt, it passes the "looking up hostname"
[12:11] <paulproteus|lapt> rosendahl__: Try "locate sources.list"
[12:11] <slew> anyone here gotten tovid to work?
[12:11] <twysted> rosendahl__ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <kaffeend> hey guys, I'm wanting to install some games using Wine, but I can't find it anywhere... well, I found docs at ./usr/share/wine but there're only 2 files there and no app. Where should I be looking please?
[12:11] <Nevis> how do I make gnome start?
[12:11] <paulproteus|lapt> Nevis: startx
[12:11] <dabaR> bashed_: can you ping to google? have you cleared out the cache on the browser?
[12:11] <Nevis> okay.
[12:11] <twysted> kaffeend> have you even installed wine?
[12:12] <Nevis> you reckon that would work?
[12:12] <bashed_> dabaR, i did try to clear out the cache to no avail
[12:12] <Nevis> I'll give it a shot. :-)
[12:12] <kaffeend> twysted: thru Synaptic, yes
[12:12] <fr> I followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?
[12:12] <bashed_> dabaR, I cant ping to anything
[12:12] <astaToPasta> Hi, i currently download ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool for local usage. BUT: Is there any way to get only the latest packages for only one distribution for one plattform?!? I dont like it to waste a transfer-volume of 110GB!
[12:12] <rosendahl__> thanks guys
[12:12] <dabaR> bashed_: so the connection does not drop any more?
[12:12] <bashed_> dabaR, i think it might be related to my firewall config
[12:12] <Forza> Im starting to get tierd on this crap, what the h*ll should i do to get VLC play the wmv streaming file (mms://), and yes i have installed the w32codecs ????????????
[12:12] <bashed_> dabaR, I am still unsure. If i leave the com,puter for a while it drops
[12:13] <dabaR> bashed_: turn off firewall to determine.
[12:13] <bashed_> dabaR, I havent changed anything.
[12:13] <twysted> astaToPasta> theres a apt-mirror(?) package that you can use that should get only the latest
[12:13] <bashed_> dabaR, turning off the firewall doesnt do anything
[12:13] <dabaR> bashed_: what I recommend to dsl people that have issues is to remove all lines that are about dsl from the interfaces file, and then rerun pppoeconf
[12:13] <dabaR> bashed_: then I doubt it is related to the firewall.
[12:13] <bashed_>  ping cnn.com
[12:13] <bashed_> ping: unknown host cnn.com
[12:13] <astaToPasta> twysted, thank, you, ill try it. (yet)
[12:13] <Ophiocus> hod do i install a legacy serial port mouse in ubuntu?
[12:14] <bashed_> dabaR, but i can go to cnn.com
[12:14] <dabaR> bashed_: and can you visit cnn.com in a browser?
[12:14] <Shadyman> hmmm... /ignore forza.
[12:14] <bashed_> dabaR, yes
[12:14] <twysted> bashed_ try to ping 216.126.238.187
[12:14] <bashed_> dabaR, I'll try doing that to the interfaces file
[12:14] <dabaR> bashed_: back up first, though.
[12:14] <bashed_> twysted, --- 216.126.238.187 ping statistics ---
[12:14] <bashed_> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5009ms
[12:14] <twysted> Forza>  read the wiki, and vlc FAQ
[12:15] <twysted> bashed_ try 213.186.190.1
[12:15] <dabaR> bashed_: ya, you do have some dns issues... but one I never seen before.
[12:15] <orgs2006> hello
[12:15] <bashed_> same thing
[12:15] <twysted> dabar its not a dns issue if he can see webpages at the domain its something with his networking
[12:15] <orgs2006> i have problem with command write
[12:15] <bashed_> can you read this?
[12:15] <twysted> bashed_ either your linux firewall or maybe possibly your modem is blocking the pings
[12:16] <intelikey> E; totem could not startup resource busy or not avalable     <--- cause ?
[12:16] <bashed_> coz my connection apparetnyl dropped now
[12:16] <bashed_> i can no longer visit webpages
[12:16] <orgs2006> say no logged in tty
[12:16] <bashed_> but xchat seems to still work
[12:16] <GnarlyBob> my current problems have nothing to do with the machine, or acpi; I've gotten past that
[12:16] <twysted> bashed_ id contact your isp
[12:16] <dabaR> twysted: oh, oh, I read the IP ping stats wrong.
[12:16] <dabaR> bashed_: nono, I would not yet.
[12:16] <bashed_> hmm... connection seems fine, but its definitely dns
[12:16] <bashed_> so connection doesnt drop
[12:16] <twysted> its not dns bashed_ its something in your networking
[12:17] <Nevis> does anyone have any experience installing on nforce2 MBs?
[12:17] <twysted> because we are just trying to ping a ip
[12:17] <dabaR> bashed_: try poff/pon dsl provider if you ran the iptables --flush, it removes the dns settings.
[12:17] <twysted> its a networking issue :)
[12:17] <bashed_> dabaR, poff/pon works fine, but it doesnt fix it. i would still get hostname problems after a certain amount of time...
[12:18] <intelikey> vidio error  anyone ?
[12:18] <intelikey> E; totem could not startup resource busy or not avalable     <--- cause ?
[12:18] <dabaR> bashed_: are y ou on that computer now?
[12:18] <bashed_> dabaR, do you think i should maybe manually add the dns servers?
[12:18] <GnarlyBob> installing the base system... installing core packages... and in /var/log/messages (not /target/var/log/bootstrap.log, as it indicates) is shown "dpkg-deb (subprocess): failed to exec tar: no such file or directory"
[12:18] <astaToPasta> twysted, i could not find any package like >apt-mirror< or similar. Was apt-proxy the tool you meant?
[12:18] <bashed_> dabaR, yes
[12:18] <FreakyFries> Hello :) Does anybody knows how I can see my FPS when I'm running glxgears ?
[12:18] <twysted> astaToPasta> im not sure read the desc in aptitude or synaptic, it could be it though
[12:18] <bashed_> dabaR, i can no longer visit webpages until i restart the connection
[12:18] <dabaR> bashed_: you can not ping to an IP address, that means your ping is not working, not a dns issue, I misread your results above.
[12:18] <twysted> intelikey> have you tried rebooting?
[12:18] <bashed_> dabaR, ok.
[12:19] <intelikey> twysted, why would i ?
[12:19] <bashed_> dabaR, I am thinking it might be firestarter
[12:19] <twysted> intelikey> *shrugs* :)
[12:19] <twysted> bashed_ it probably is firestarter
[12:19] <bashed_> dabaR, im gonna mess around with it a bit
[12:19] <bashed_> thanks twysted
[12:19] <fr> I followed the limewire install in the FAQ guide but once I start it I get the hour class and after 10seconds it disapears from the taskbar.  Any ideas?
[12:19] <dabaR> bashed_: but you are on the same computer, hmm...try turning off firestarter, I mean, if it does not work after turning it off, then I doubt it is firestarter.
[12:19] <bashed_> dabaR, but firestarter changes your configuration permanently doesnt it?
[12:20] <intelikey> twysted, do you think there is any reason that a reboot should help ?
[12:20] <dabaR> bashed_: did you flush iptables?
[12:20] <mwe> if you stop firestarter it brings down the filtering
[12:20] <twysted> intelikey> i dunno just something to keep you busy :) its prolly just hung up open the process viewer and see if theres a zombie process for it
[12:20] <bashed_> dabaR, once, then i restarted the firewall coz iternet stopped working
[12:21] <bashed_> dabaR, but restarting the firewall  now doesnt do anything
[12:21] <dabaR> bashed_: ya, mine stopped working when I flushed my iptables.
[12:21] <FreakyFries> Does anybody knows how I can see my FPS when I'm running glxgears ?
[12:21] <dabaR> bashed_: and I went poff pon dsl-provider to get back here.
[12:22] <bashed_> dabaR, what should the "internet connected interface be"? eth0 or ppp0?
[12:22] <dabaR> FreakyFries: try "man glxgears" I am sure it shows the option there.
[12:22] <dabaR> bashed_: ppp0 in firestarter, iirc.
[12:22] <mwe> there is no man glxgears here
[12:22] <twysted> ppp0
[12:22] <FreakyFries> No manual dabaR
[12:22] <bashed_> dabaR, what about broadcast traffic? i have 'external blocked' internet not blocked
[12:23] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to use X11 Mouse themes?
[12:24] <bashed_> dabaR, I think there is still a dns problem, coz i can use xchat, but i cant browse now
[12:24] <SpudDogg> anyone know where i put my web site .html files using apache in ubuntu?
[12:24] <bashed_> dabaR, i have to restart the connection. it seems like the dns servers are flushed from memory or something every while
[12:25] <Ng> SpudDogg: have a look in /var/www :)
[12:25] <bashed_> is there another easy to use firewall gui like firestarter?
[12:25] <ElitePete> does anyone know how to use X11 mouse themes
[12:25] <dabaR> bashed_: why do you use a firewall anyhow?
[12:26] <Martin> hi, I need a little help...
[12:26] <SpudDogg> Ng, thank you!
[12:26] <bashed_> dabaR, (1) a lot of attacks on my network, (2) i need NAT
[12:26] <bashed_> dabaR, firestarter does both
[12:26] <twysted> bashed_ get a router
[12:27] <Martin> Look, I want to get my ATI AIW Radeon working. I need to setup picking up TV signal...
[12:27] <bashed_> twysted, not a solution
[12:27] <twysted> bashed_> it is :) u get nat and a firewall
[12:28] <twysted> ive seen routers handle ppp connections for dsl alot better then a pc
[12:28] <bashed_> twysted, i mean not a practical one at the moment :P
[12:28] <twysted> ah ;)
[12:28] <Martin> I have installed gatos, but TV-TIME still doesnt pick up the signal. Says stg. about nonexisting /dev/video0...
[12:28] <Martin> any clues<
[12:28] <bashed_> how about fireflier? is it any good?
[12:28] <twysted> Martin> google your card + linux
[12:28] <pashaw> FreakyFries,   glxgears -printfps
[12:28] <twysted> bashed_> use firestarter u just have to configure it properly
[12:28] <Shadyman> how do i sudo a Makefile?
[12:29] <erUSUL> bashed_, in use firehol is not a gui but an easily configurable script
[12:29] <Martin> twysted> I did so - didnt find much...
[12:29] <erUSUL> Shadyman, sudo make
[12:29] <Shadyman> erUSUL: k
[12:29] <FreakyFries> pashaw, just the gears, no fps
[12:29] <pashaw> FreakyFries,   read the terminal
[12:30] <FreakyFries> pashaw, sorry :) The were in the terminal :)
[12:30] <astaToPasta> twysted, its not apt-proxy *cry*
[12:30] <twysted> astaToPasta> let me take a look
[12:31] <twysted> astaToPasta> its is apt-proxy it maintains a mirror
[12:31] <twysted> http://apt-proxy.sf.net/
[12:31] <Shadyman> Hmm... is it possible to sudo a terminal session?
[12:31] <paulproteus|lapt> Shadyman: You bet.
[12:31] <Shadyman> paulproteus|lapt: Killer!
[12:31] <paulproteus|lapt> gksudo gnome-terminal
[12:32] <erUSUL> Shadyman, sudo -i
[12:32] <Shadyman> paulproteus|lapt: I'm So making a launcher for that :D
[12:32] <paulproteus|lapt> Shadyman: (-:
[12:32] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, I need a step by step guide to checking/installing temp sensors for my cpu, i have followed the wiki, but it just reports how much ram I have... so I need a tutor clearly  haha.
[12:33] <kemik> WebLOCH:  lmsensors?
[12:33] <astaToPasta> twysted, true, but as long ive read (source) it only mirrors packages i install. I need a repository from scratch, since my only-one-time-a-month-internet-connection ;-)
[12:33] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: use Ksensors on the desktop, it seems to work much better than xsensors
[12:33] <SpudDogg> Can someone do me a favor?  Just visit a website to test my apache installation?
[12:33] <Shadyman> SpudDogg: K
[12:33] <twysted> astaToPasta> it does that, it updates from mirrors so u can host a local repository for multipul users on your network
[12:34] <SpudDogg> Shadyman, just try spuddogg.sytes.net
[12:34] <WebLOCH> kemik,  Madpilot I appear to not be able to install the modules correctly, also Madpilot are Ksensors all KDE-ish ?
[12:34] <Shadyman> SpudDogg: Works.
[12:34] <QMario> How do I change my profile for Firefox?
[12:34] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: hardly, it's a very small window much like xsensors
[12:34] <SpudDogg> shadyman, does it say "The server is working"
[12:34] <Shadyman> SpudDogg: Yep.
[12:34] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, gonna try em now
[12:34] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: and a little temp. display in my notification area
[12:34] <SpudDogg> shadyman, great, thank you
[12:35] <QMario> Madpilot, really?
[12:35] <Shadyman> SpudDogg: No prob :)
[12:35] <Madpilot> QMario: really what? :P
[12:35] <QMario> That's how I change my profile in Firefox?
[12:35] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, yeah it looks like its working, cant see how i can tell the temp tho to be honest
[12:36] <erUSUL> !enter
[12:36] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:36] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: right click on the Ksensors window, choose Configure
[12:36] <Martin> does anybody know how to get ATI AIW Radeon to play TV signal?
[12:36] <mwe> lol. I found out how to get glxgears to show the fps
[12:37] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, yeah done that much, cant see a temp value
[12:37] <mwe> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[12:37] <progamer> hey, where can I download mp4 codecs ?
[12:37] <mwe> and it's no joke
[12:37] <Shadyman> !mp4
[12:37] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Shadyman
[12:37] <Shadyman> hmm
[12:37] <Shadyman> !restrictedformats
[12:37] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:37] <astaToPasta> twysted, ok, tried to find how to configure that and now im confused, BUT: there is an IRC-Channel (#apt-proxy) and ill go to ask the source. Thank you for help
[12:37] <twysted> np astatopasta
[12:37] <Shadyman> progamer: Check there.
[12:38] <dabaR> progamer: visit the restricted formats page there, and look for aac, or something like that.
[12:39] <progamer> ty
[12:39] <Shadyman> What's the apt-get for the tools such as make, and C++ libs, etc?
[12:39] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: Ksensors has an odd over-complicated UI - it is a KDE app, after all, but you should be able to get it to display CPU temp, MB temp, etc etc - all sorts of data...
[12:39] <GnarlyBob> is there any reason why the ubuntu install would bomb out failing to find tar?
[12:39] <Madpilot> Shadyman: build-essential
[12:39] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, xsensor shows me two tabs, labelled EEPROM, both of which report data on my ram, but nothing else
[12:39] <Shadyman> Madpilot: Thanks
[12:40] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, KDE offers me two CPU based reports, one is the speed, one is the CPU state, but i see no temp indicator
[12:41] <QMario> Okay, MadPiliot I found it.
[12:41] <QMario> Thank you.
[12:41] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: right-click/configure in Ksensors - are there three items down the left-hand window of that box?
[12:41] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: what? your install does not work?
[12:41] <Shadyman> Is it just me, or does KDE just crash because it likes to?
[12:41] <GnarlyBob> dabaR: correct
[12:41] <GnarlyBob> installing the base system... installing core packages... and in /var/log/messages (not /target/var/log/bootstrap.log, as it indicates) is shown "dpkg-deb (subprocess): failed to exec tar: no such file or directory"
[12:41] <mwe> Shadyman: it's just you
[12:41] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: and did you check cd integrity? it is an option in the installation menu.
[12:41] <Shadyman> mwe: Darn.
[12:42] <mwe> Shadyman: kde never crashed for me
[12:42] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: in my system, all the temp, fan speed etc data is on the tab called "asb100 sensors"
[12:42] <GnarlyBob> hmm, I don't recall seeing that option, I will check again... but it's identical on the second of 5 breezy cd's shipped from canonical
[12:42] <Shadyman> mwe: Every redhat or fedora install i've done with kde always crashes for the darndest things.
[12:42] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, I see Global Settings and System Information
[12:42] <Shadyman> Konqueror, etc.
[12:42] <mwe> I see
[12:42] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: and my System Info tab has nothing at all of interest...
[12:42] <Shadyman> mwe: It's like, oh noes! You pressed the back button! *crash*
[12:43] <mwe> Shadyman: I experience no such thing
[12:43] <GnarlyBob> Shadyman: that ought to teach you to go pushing random buttons, ESPECIALLY the "back" one
[12:43] <Shadyman> GnarlyBob: Bwahaha, True.
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, my Sys Inf tab shows me some system panels, which are CPU Speed, State, RAM, SWAP and Uptime
[12:43] <mwe> Shadyman: I managed to lock up X, messing with glx but I'm sure it would have happened in any wm
[12:43] <Shadyman> mwe: True.
[12:44] <Shadyman> mwe: but i've never been able to crash Gnome, even with all the incessant Back-button pushing I do.
[12:44] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: yeah, I've got those too - but all the temp & fan data is in my "asb100 sensors" tab...
[12:44] <WebLOCH> dont have any other tab
[12:44] <king-t> hi how are you??
[12:44] <Shadyman> king-t: Hi :)
[12:44] <king-t> :)
[12:44] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, thats why i assumed i needed help setting up the sensors
[12:44] <pawel> what would you guys recommend for backup? a small router and backup should be stored on another computer/server over ssh/ftp?
[12:44] <king-t> whats going on??
[12:44] <mwe> Shadyman: yeah. you should use gnome then :)
[12:44] <GnarlyBob> I don't see any option for checking CD integrity from the install menu
[12:44] <GnarlyBob> for breezy
[12:45] <Shadyman> mwe: I guess, because I love pressing the Back button.
[12:45] <mwe> Shadyman: personally I agree with the path that gnome has taken though
[12:45] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: have a look here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto or search the forums for more help - I set my sensors up six months ago and can't remember what I did to get them working...
[12:45] <Shadyman> mwe: How so?
[12:45] <mwe> Shadyman: with Linus that is
[12:45] <GnarlyBob> Shadyman: amateur psychoanalysis says that maybe there are some changes in your life that you wish to roll back
[12:45] <pawel> I used to write backup scripts myself but it gets annoying if you do it over and over.
[12:45] <Shadyman> GnarlyBob: Yeah, like installing Windows.
[12:46] <Shadyman> GnarlyBob: ;)
[12:46] <GnarlyBob> that's a mistake I've never made, thankfully
[12:46] <king-t> who have got the linux ubuntu 5.1 here???
[12:46] <GnarlyBob> 5.1 or 5.10?
[12:46] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, i tried the wiki, its lead me to where i am now :(  thanks anyway
[12:46] <AJ359> i tried using "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12" to get a copy of the kernal source code but it says "Package linux-source-2.6.12 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package linux-source-2.6.12 has no installation candidate"
[12:47] <mwe> Shadyman: I meant I agree with Linus views on the path that gnome has taken
[12:47] <zarky> #dublin
[12:47] <Shadyman> mwe: Oh.
[12:47] <Shadyman> mwe: That explains it a bit better :D
[12:47] <mwe> Shadyman: yeah :)
[12:47] <king-t> 5.10
[12:48] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: yeah, sorry I can't help more - try the forums, though, or ask again here in a while
[12:48] <AJ359> i'm trying to get it so that i can build a kernel module to use cuz i'm trying to install a netgear ma111 usb adaptor
[12:48] <alphy> I need help with java.  I've followed the wiki and can't get it to work.....
[12:48] <AJ359> i'm using Ubuntu 5.10
[12:48] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, will do, your patience as always is appreciated
[12:48] <calamari>  I'd like to run some things automatically as the computer boots (for one, to set up a /dev/dvd symlink).  Is /etc/profile the place to do this, or is there somewhere better?
[12:49] <Shadyman> Next newbie question, what's the apt-get for breezy source?
[12:49] <king-t> omg..i have to ask something but i'm to tired bye all
[12:49] <Forza> which repositories can i get mplayer from?
[12:49] <Shadyman> king-t: Ok. g'night.
[12:49] <apokryphos> Forza: Multiverse
[12:49] <sklav> Hi guys
[12:49] <WebLOCH> alphy, you a java user or programmer?
[12:49] <king-t> thx..
[12:49] <calamari> Forza: I'd recommend building it yourself
[12:49] <apokryphos> Shadyman: /msg ubotu sources
[12:49] <mwe> AJ359: are you connected to the internet with that box and ran sudo apt-get update?
[12:49] <Forza> calamari, well I rather not do that
[12:49] <AJ359> no i'm not
[12:49] <GnarlyBob> ok, this is insane, I'm actually contemplating reinstalling windoze
[12:49] <Shadyman> GnarlyBob: Say it ain't so.
[12:50] <mwe> AJ359: that explains it
[12:50] <sklav> wow im surprised ubuntu has this many greeks on the channel or am i just assuming ;)
[12:50] <calamari> Forza: ahh okay.. just mentioning it because it lets you build to a debian package
[12:50] <Forza> gnarlybob, me 2
[12:50] <apokryphos> sklav: there are many?
[12:50] <mwe> AJ359: I guess it's not available on the cd
[12:50] <sklav> i see that
[12:50] <sklav> :)
[12:50] <sklav> pretty cool
[12:50] <AJ359> mwe: know where else i can get it?
[12:50] <alphy> WebLOCH, java user, I need java enviroment to use limewire
[12:50] <Shadyman> !sources
[12:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:50] <apokryphos> sklav: who else here is Greek?
[12:50] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: me too, for the 100000000th time in the last year, I get spywarez all the time.
[12:51] <sklav> im assuming calamari
[12:51] <GnarlyBob> dabaR: I've never gotten a virus or any spyware
[12:51] <sklav> i myself am greek and ur username sounds greek
[12:51] <sklav> hehe
[12:51] <GnarlyBob> But I just can't be productive in the UI nightmare that is windows
[12:51] <sklav> key word assuming
[12:51] <calamari> sklav: nope.. just an old time star wars fan :)
[12:51] <sklav> hehe
[12:51] <WebLOCH> alphy, I can suggest a way to install  java, but its thru a third-party deb thats repackaged with 1.5
[12:51] <mwe> AJ359: yeah. any repo like archive.ubuntu.com.
[12:51] <apokryphos> sklav: I'd startup and maintain #ubuntu-gr but my Greek is shaky =)
[12:51] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: well, did you check the integrity of your CD?
[12:51] <apokryphos> I might anyway
[12:51] <AJ359> mwe: k thanks
[12:51] <WebLOCH> alphy, and I would advise you drop limewire and start using giFT/giFTcurs
[12:51] <GnarlyBob> dabaR: I didn't see any option to do that
[12:52] <sklav> apokryphos, my written greek is garbage at that
[12:52] <sklav> its greeklish
[12:52] <GnarlyBob> greeklish isn't as funny as engrish
[12:52] <GnarlyBob> or chinglish
[12:52] <apokryphos> sklav: /j #ubuntu-gr ;-)
[12:52] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: you press escape when you get asked something, and it is there.
[12:52] <alphy> WebLOCH, okay, I just need to be able to download music....  how do I get this giFT you talk of.....
[12:52] <dabaR> alphy: gtk-gnutella, install that rather.
[12:53] <alphy> dabaR, I have gtk-gnutella.  I can't get anything to show up from the searches
[12:53] <dabaR> alphy: do you use a router, or a firewall?
[12:54] <salah> Hi. Why do I get a error message like "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg"? Do I have to install any drivers or what? The sound works fine with Gaim..
[12:54] <WebLOCH> alphy, you will need to apt-get gift giftd libfasttrack-gift     and then grab a front end, like giftcurs or giftui
[12:55] <alphy> dabaR, I think i looked once and it said I was firewalled, how do I change it?
[12:55] <dabaR> alphy: do you have a firewall installed, or a router?
[12:55] <GnarlyBob> incredibly frustrating to have to jump through these hoops on a vanilla brand-new intel box, and still fail
[12:56] <eloi> !boot
[12:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, eloi
[12:56] <alphy> dabaR, must be a firewall, I don't have one installed, I just got ubuntu about a week ago, does it come with one automatically?
[12:56] <eloi> what?
[12:56] <salah> Any suggestion please?
[12:56] <eloi> i'm a newbie
[12:56] <dabaR> not really. alphy
[12:57] <eloi> i don't think iptables is active when you first boot ubuntu
[12:57] <eloi> is it?
[12:57] <dabaR> salah: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and install codecs
[12:57] <dabaR> eloi: no, it is not, it has no rules built in.
[12:57] <Squee-D> however it is there
[12:57] <Squee-D> its part of the kernel and always running
[12:58] <alphy> dabaR, well, I don't have a router and I just open gtk, and it says I'm behind a firewall, so how do I fix it?
[12:58] <Squee-D> so an iptables -l (i think) will check the state of things
[12:58] <dabaR> alphy: try that then, the iptables -l
[12:58] <odat> anyone have any opinions on the best video player for linux
[12:59] <dabaR> heh, no that is not the option.
[12:59] <Squee-D> hah well sorry bout that
[12:59] <Squee-D> bit rusty
[12:59] <odat> i have been trying to give totem and gstreamer a chance but am getting frustrated in their performance
[12:59] <Kyral> odat: VLC
[12:59] <mwe> odat: best is a matter of taste. I prefer gmplayer
[12:59] <alphy> dabaR, try what?  run iptables -1 in the terminal?
[12:59] <eloi> soyrr
[12:59] <eloi> any idea on how to configure overnet???
[12:59] <MrMaDSeN> howcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?
[12:59] <odat> i keep hearing that gstreamer is the future but it seems to suck so bad
[12:59] <eloi> my status is unclear
[01:00] <dabaR> not really, I do not know what you can do.
[01:00] <odat> don't know if i can wait for it to get better
[01:00] <mwe> odat: I second that, but a lot of people seem to enjoy it
[01:00] <odat> what about xine?
[01:00] <Kyral> Xine is good
[01:00] <mwe> odat: it's great
[01:00] <eloi> !boot
[01:00] <ubotu> eloi: Are you smoking crack?
[01:01] <eloi> no
[01:01] <Kyral> I have it as backup in case VLC fails
[01:01] <MrMaDSeN> vlc rulez :))
[01:01] <MrMaDSeN> howcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?
[01:01] <odat> mwe, totem and gstreamer are jerky and out of sync most of the time
[01:01] <eloi> i want a list of nodes to boot overnet
[01:01] <eloi> !boot
[01:01] <ubotu> eloi: Are you on ritalin?
[01:01] <Shadyman> Bwahahah
[01:02] <GnarlyBob> it would appear as if "!boot" is a command the bot doesn't grok
[01:02] <Shadyman> !boot
[01:02] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Shadyman
[01:02] <Shadyman> apparently.
[01:02] <eloi> please, help me with overnet
[01:02] <alphy> anybody know how to shut off the "firewall" I didn't know I had.  I'm trying to use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm behind a firewall and can't use it
[01:02] <dabaR> !msg the bot
[01:02] <odat> if i install vlc will it break gstreamer?
[01:02] <Kyral> odat: no
[01:02] <Sepheebear> odat: no
[01:02] <Kyral> gstreamer is a POS anyway
[01:02] <mwe> odat: I gave up gstreamer too and went with xine and mplayer
[01:03] <Stormx2> How do I change the default size of icons on the desktop?
[01:03] <Olson> odat does VLC run all types of videos ?
[01:03] <Sepheebear> totem-xine works great for me
[01:03] <Kyral> Olson: almost everything
[01:03] <odat> is it pretty much a toss up between vlc xine and mplayer?
[01:03] <Stormx2> bmp all the way
[01:03] <Sepheebear> hopefully the new gstreamer will be useable
[01:03] <Stormx2> lol ^^
[01:03] <patami> hi all
[01:03] <Stormx2> well actually im using my new hardware mp3 player ;)
[01:04] <Stormx2> but Audacious ftw
[01:04] <Olson> Kyral i have a video card with 8mb memori and it doesn run movie iwth .avi even with VLC
[01:04] <odat> i really want to use the best one i can for streaming video and dvd's
[01:04] <Kyral> Olson: thats your COMPUTER
[01:04] <Stormx2> odat: VLC is the way to go then
[01:04] <patami> need help how to set up a logitech cam in ubuntu
[01:04] <mwe> odat: I'd go with mplayer, but that's just me
[01:04] <albacker> guys is there any html2pdf converter ?
[01:04] <sklav> im a xine fan
[01:04] <Olson> Kyral it should be coz my process is of 500mhz only
[01:05] <Stormx2> albacker: Not sure. Synaptic search for PDF, install, and try locating an "import" option
[01:05] <odat> its tough because i don't want to totally give up on gstreamer but i can't just sit around and suffer either
[01:05] <sklav> and if you follow the information and install the codecs and the firefox plugin u should be king ;)
[01:05] <Stormx2> odat: VLC ftw
[01:05] <MrMaDSeN> howcome I cant change icons in apps shortcuts on my panels?
[01:05] <albacker> patami, i have a logitech quickcam messenger web cam too
[01:06] <Sepheebear> albacker: you can print html to pdf using OO.org
[01:06] <patami> albacker does it work for u
[01:06] <albacker> patami, i havent made it work.. anyway im downloading kernel and than follow the instructions in here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284
[01:06] <odat> Stormx2, ok then installing now
[01:06] <Stormx2> MrMaDSeN: What do you mean?
[01:06] <patami> am jusing the amsn
[01:06] <Stormx2> amsn >.<
[01:06] <Stormx2> eek
[01:07] <Olson> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:07] <albacker> Sepheebear, how ?
[01:07] <albacker> patami, no it doesnt.
[01:07] <patami> albacker ok
[01:07] <Stormx2> www.dython.net/stormx/Screenshot.png <-- my sexy new ubuntu desktop
[01:07] <albacker> gaim is better th o
[01:07] <albacker> tho *
[01:07] <agorf> hello. where are the environmental variables kept?
[01:08] <apokryphos> Stormx2: where's your menu/panel? ;-)
[01:08] <patami> stormx2 wow thats shure a fine pice of art work
[01:09] <Shadyman> Stormx2: That's pretty slick.
[01:10] <alphy> I'm trying to use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm firewalled both TCP and UDP wise.  how do I fix this so I can use gnutella?
[01:11] <apokryphos> alphy: forward the ports it uses
[01:11] <apokryphos> 6891 probably, or something
[01:11] <rabbit1> hey..  What's the difference between "mount paoint" and "label" when partitioning??
[01:11] <Sepheebear> albacker: nix that about oo.o its not working for me anymore
[01:11] <mwe> alphy: if you're behind a router you need to forward some ports
[01:12] <mwe> alphy: if not, configure your firewall software
[01:12] <alphy> nwe, to my knowledge I don't have a firewall and I'm not using a router
[01:13] <ElitePete> whats a good program for burning .bin / cues ?
[01:13] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: partitioners dont care about mountpoints
[01:13] <alphy> apokryphos, how do I forward ports?
[01:13] <apokryphos> alphy: from your router configuration. Standard is by going to 10.0.0.2 in a browser
[01:13] <mwe> alphy: you don't have dsl or anything?
[01:13] <rabbit1> Sepheebear: I'm talking about the ubuntu installer.. what's the "label" for?
[01:14] <gimmulf> is there any way to control pc speaker from beeping without configuring bios?
[01:14] <alphy> nwe, I have cable but I'm just using a cable modem
[01:14] <rabbit1> partitions have "label" and they have "mount point"   what's label??
[01:14] <ElitePete> whats a good program for burning .bin / cues ?
[01:14] <gimmulf> ElitePete:  k3b?
[01:14] <apokryphos> K3b
[01:14] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: label is an alternate way to specify the partition
[01:14] <ElitePete> gimmulf, when i add the .cue it doesn't read the .bin
[01:14] <Olson> ElitePete to burn or emulate ?
[01:14] <rosen> k3b is the only one I've found that supports overburning
[01:14] <gimmulf> ok :(
[01:14] <ElitePete> burn
[01:15] <Sepheebear> so instead of /dev/hd* you'd use the label
[01:15] <Olson> nero
[01:15] <rabbit1> Sepheebear:  "specify" ??
[01:15] <apokryphos> ElitePete: sounds like a faulty bin/cue then
[01:15] <mwe> alphy: I don't know much about cable connections, sorry
[01:15] <Olson> ElitePete nero shoudl be a good program to do that
[01:15] <rabbit1> oh!  I get it
[01:15] <ElitePete> nero on linux?
[01:15] <rabbit1> thanks
[01:15] <Kyral> eewww Nero on Linux
[01:15] <GnarlyBob> Olson: it was probably specific to linux, which rules out nero, afaik
[01:15] <Sionide> err
[01:15] <alphy> apokryphos, I don't have a router, just a cable modem and the ip you gave me didn't work
[01:15] <Olson> alphy are you using cable connection ?
[01:15] <Sionide> gnomebaker > nero ?
[01:16] <Kyral> k3b > gnomebaker > nero
[01:16] <apokryphos> alphy: oh, I presumed you were behind one.
[01:16] <rabbit1> should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??
[01:16] <dwhsix> hi all - anything I need to do additional to access remote windows shares from ubuntu?  The target machine is XP Home, trying to access the hidden share (e.g. C$)... I keep getting prompted for username/pw, I know I'm giving it a right one... something else?  thanks
[01:16] <ElitePete> yea thats what i need probably gnomebaker
[01:16] <alphy> Olson, why yes I am
[01:16] <Olson> Kyral i know a site where you can get many program that run in linux
[01:16] <Olson> but i dont know if i can put it here
[01:16] <Kyral> Olson: its called Apt-Get
[01:16] <Kyral> and its no site
[01:16] <sklav> alphy, is your cable modem set to act like a bridge or a router?
[01:16] <Olson> alphy and what do you wanna know?
[01:16] <sklav> i know mine has the feature
[01:16] <Olson> in cable connection there is not a modm
[01:17] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: if you move drives on the ide chain frequently, labels give you the advantage of not having to know where on the bus the drives are
[01:17] <ElitePete> ok cool, gnome baker is working
[01:17] <alphy> sklav, you know I don't know, I haven't done anything with it, ubuntu just set it for me when I switched from windows
[01:17] <Squee-D> apt-get, and if that doesnt have it, freshmeat is a good concentrator
[01:17] <rosen> is there ANY free mmorpgs that works on Ubuntu ? ... Manaworld and planeshift wont work (planeshift is not 'Ubuntus fault')
[01:18] <sklav> alphy, on ubuntu by default there is no firewall
[01:18] <alphy> Olson, I wanna use gtk-gnutella and it says I'm behind a firewall but I have not installed a firewall so how do I fix the problem
[01:18] <lemur> what program is it that rotates the logs for apache?  I want to change the permissions
[01:18] <ElitePete> sklav, thats nto true
[01:18] <ElitePete> sklav, their is.
[01:18] <mwe> ElitePete: in k3b I just do tools->burn cd image to burn cue/bin files
[01:18] <sklav> by default?
[01:18] <alphy> sklav, then what's the problem???  gtk-gnutella say's I'm behind one
[01:18] <rosen> iptables runs always ?
[01:18] <ElitePete> sklav, yes the Ip tables are a firewall
[01:18] <Squee-D> ElitePete no rules b default
[01:18] <ElitePete> mwe, thanks. im already using gnomebaker
[01:18] <Kyral> But they are disabled by default
[01:19] <rabbit1> sephebear: okay, cool..  didn't think of that..  how do you set labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?
[01:19] <sklav> ElitePete, are they configured by default?
[01:19] <Kyral> sklav: no
[01:19] <ElitePete> sklav, it's configured to accept no connections
[01:19] <monteiro> when i burn dvds in k3b or burn a cd, dvd burn speed don't goes upper than 2x and cd 16x, i don't know what's the problem?
[01:19] <sklav> ?
[01:19] <Squee-D> You dont disable iptables, they come configured by default to accept all.
[01:19] <Olson> alphy when i install my ubuntu i will check it up.
[01:19] <ElitePete> monteiro, need to enable dma
[01:19] <ElitePete> !dma
[01:19] <sklav> my system accepts all connections
[01:19] <Hoxzer> what is good cd burner for ubuntu? ( gnome baker crashes all the time)
[01:19] <Olson> i am getting it yet
[01:19] <ElitePete> !tell monteiro about dma
[01:19] <Kyral> ElitePete: There are no rules in the IPTables by default
[01:19] <monteiro> ElitePete : i've that enabled, in hdparm.conf already
[01:19] <sklav> and i never touched it on my internal systems
[01:19] <Kyral> ElitePete: Therefore its off
[01:19] <alphy> Olson, well, that's good and all but it doesn't help me no, lol
[01:19] <ElitePete> monteiro, did you do the cmd in terminal ?
[01:20] <kyncani> sklav: if you want a firewall, you may take a look at firestarter
[01:20] <Olson> alphy sory man
[01:20] <sklav> i have a firewall
[01:20] <ElitePete> firestarter is NOT a firewall
[01:20] <Kyral> ElitePete: It is
[01:20] <Olson> alphy but we can help ourself , i have clabe connection too
[01:20] <ElitePete> ..
[01:20] <Kyral> ElitePete: Its a frontend to IPtables
[01:20] <Shadyman> whats the apt-get line for the breezy source code?
[01:20] <ElitePete> it's just a gui for ip tables.
[01:20] <rosen> firestarter is a frontend for iptables
[01:20] <Happu> Firestarter just contorls IPtables?
[01:20] <ElitePete> exactly.
[01:20] <monteiro> ElitePete : i saw it when i wrote : sudo hdparm /dev/hdx...
[01:20] <Kyral> ElitePete: Which is a firewall
[01:20] <alphy> olson, that's okay, i'm not mad or anything
[01:20] <ElitePete> Kyral, i don't think so
[01:20] <Kyral> ElitePete: Trust me
[01:21] <Squee-D> Kyral its not really off as such. Its splitting hairs, but the more appropriate thing to say is that iptables comes configured to accept all connections.
[01:21] <rosen> come on gamers ... any free mmorpgs that will run in Ubuntu ?
[01:21] <ElitePete> Kyral, nah
[01:21] <Kyral> ElitePete: IPTables is the most powerful firewall known, once you configure it
[01:21] <rabbit1> sephebear: okay, cool..  didn't think of that..  how do you set labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?
[01:21] <Olson> alphy do you have a MSN to keep contact ?
[01:21] <Squee-D> Kyral you'll find most linux eggheads (like me) are pretty specific
[01:21] <ElitePete> monteiro, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[01:21] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, need some help setting up sensors, got it partially working but only displays  some ram output :(
[01:21] <mwe> the iptables program is not a firewall either :) it's a tool configure the kernel filtering tables
[01:21] <ElitePete> do that for hda/hdb also
[01:21] <lemur> rosen: daimonin is free
[01:21] <Kyral> Squee-D: What do you think I am?
[01:21] <alphy> Olson, yeah, it's john_skow@hotmail.com
[01:21] <Squee-D> Kyral not sure, but not very specific.
[01:21] <alphy> olson, just add me and I'll add you back
[01:22] <UbuntuNewbie> Hi everybody!  I hope everyone out there had a Merry Christmas!  I have a question about GParted.
[01:22] <Kyral> Squee-D: look at my hostmask :P
[01:22] <monteiro> ElitePete : ok, tks, but i already have that enabled
[01:22] <Kyral> Squee-D: Technically Synaptic is a GUI to Apt-Get, but its still considered a Package Manager
[01:22] <ElitePete> monteiro, hmm.. tried using another APP to write?
[01:22] <sklav> i thought hdparm was configured by default
[01:22] <monteiro> ElitePete : APP ?
[01:22] <sklav> time to tweak my hdd's
[01:22] <coder> could someone help me setup the correct power management on this laptop?
[01:22] <ElitePete> application
[01:23] <ElitePete> sorry im from the Warez world
[01:23] <ElitePete> ;-P
[01:23] <coder> When the hard drive spins up from being suspended.. sys. freezes
[01:23] <barro> ubuntu espaol?
[01:23] <rabbit1> Sepheebear: how do you set partition labels after the install? where do you change them? fstab?
[01:23] <Kyral> Firestarter is to IPTables what Synaptic is to Apt-Get
[01:23] <Madpilot> !es
[01:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:23] <barro> spanish?
[01:23] <monteiro> ElitePete : i use always k3b, because gnome burns very slow :(
[01:23] <ElitePete> monteiro, gnome-baker?
[01:24] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: if you use ext2/3 then use "e2label <device>"
[01:24] <rosen> lemur, I'll check it out thanks :)
[01:24] <monteiro> ElitePete : i tried that, but is too buggy for me
[01:24] <mwe> firestarter implement some pretty damn kewl default rules
[01:24] <ElitePete> monteiro, hmm...
[01:24] <Kyral> Granted I don't like Firestarter, preferring to write out my own rules
[01:24] <Kyral> but its still good if you just want a no hassle setup
[01:24] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: that's to edit the actual volume labels, then you'd change them in fstab
[01:25] <monteiro> ElitePete : you use gnomebaker to burn ?
[01:25] <ElitePete> monteiro, using it for the first time right now
[01:25] <rabbit1> k, thanks
[01:25] <rabbit1> should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??
[01:25] <odat> Stormx2, still there?
[01:25] <Sepheebear> rabbit1: but fstab works just fine with /dev/hd* whether or not volume labels are there
[01:25] <ElitePete> monteiro, i'm burning at 4x though, because im doing video, and it's better quality @ slower burn i will try 52x with audio later.
[01:26] <monteiro> ElitePete : let me now if u burn fast ;)
[01:26] <mwe> Kyral: if you look at the iptables rules firestarter implements you'll see that they're pretty cool. Writing something like that myself would take ages
[01:26] <ElitePete> monteiro, will do
[01:26] <yanis> where is the resource file of xterm?
[01:26] <mwe> Kyral: though I used to make my own iptables rules
[01:26] <monteiro> ElitePete : tks
[01:26] <UbuntuNewbie> Every time I try to run GParted, my system locks up.  My system natively runs Windows XP Pro with the hard disk formatted NTFS; I think my best bet to getting things going more smoothly would be setting up a dual-boot system rather than trying to get everything working on the Ubuntu Live CD.  What do you think?
[01:26] <Squee-D> Kyral i'll use #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:26] <Kyral> mwe: I write my own b/c I have to let certain things connec to my computer
[01:26] <Kyral> Squee-D: wha?
[01:26] <Sepheebear> what's the use of all these highspeed mediaburners if you still have to burn at less than top speed?
[01:27] <mwe> Kyral: firestarter will manage that too
[01:27] <ElitePete> Kyral, firestarter does thatf ine
[01:27] <Kyral> mwe: *Shrug*
[01:27] <Kyral> I say use Firestarter if you wanna
[01:27] <ElitePete> Kyral, so basicly your wasting your time
[01:27] <Kyral> I already have my ruleset up and loaded
[01:27] <rabbit1> should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??
[01:27] <alphy> gtk-gnutella says I'm behind a firewall and I don't have a firewall so how do I fix this so I can use gtk-gnutella?
[01:27] <Sepheebear> kinda like having a ferrari as your main streetcar, all that speed but cant use it
[01:27] <Kyral> alphy: are you behind a router?
[01:27] <Squee-D> theres another channel for this kind of banter. to reduce the noise in here to things related to issues/help with ubuntu
[01:28] <mwe> Kyral: just right click a blocked connection in the events and it makes an exception or lets you configure your own rule
[01:28] <alphy> Kyral, all I'm using is a cable modem
[01:28] <Kyral> Squee-D: I know
[01:28] <Squee-D> Alphy has no router.
[01:28] <Squee-D> alphy I am assuming you have a PCI cable modem?
[01:28] <Vaske_Car> I can not install Ubuntu, I got this error: [42014671.933000]  <0>KERNEL PANIC-Not syncing: ATTEMPTED TO KILL INIT!  What does this mean?
[01:29] <Kyral> alphy: then do sudo iptables -L and see if anything is there
[01:29] <ElitePete> Squee-D, PCI cable modem? never heard of such a thing..
[01:29] <sklav> how does one display the options currently set to hdparm
[01:29] <rabbit1> should I install the boot record in the mbr or the partition if I'm doing dual boot with XP ??
[01:29] <Squee-D> ElitePete so?
[01:29] <Kyral> rabbit1: MBR
[01:29] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > yes
[01:30] <ElitePete> Squee-D, PCI cable modem? i'm almost 100% sure their is no such thing
[01:30] <rabbit1> Kyra1: why would you put it in the partition??
[01:30] <HymnToLife> it's the most simple way and it will work just fine
[01:30] <Squee-D> ElitePete well shock, you're wrong
[01:30] <Kyral> rabbit1: I said MBR
[01:30] <alphy> Squee-d, I think so, It's hooked up by ethernet
[01:30] <Squee-D> would it have killed you to google that before suggesting im wrong?
[01:30] <Squee-D> oh by ethernet?
[01:30] <ElitePete> Squee-D, i just did.. didn't find any
[01:30] <alphy> Kyral, what am I looking for???
[01:30] <Squee-D> there must be a box there somewhere
[01:30] <rabbit1> Kyra1: I know, thanks..  but I'm curious why it's possible to put it in the partition
[01:30] <Kyral> Squee-D: he meant a PCI Ethernet Card
[01:31] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > it is possible
[01:31] <Squee-D> Kyral i got that
[01:31] <HymnToLife> but installing it on the MBR works fine too
[01:31] <ElitePete> Kyral, who meant pci ethernet card
[01:31] <Kyral> alphy: if it says nothing aside the tables, then the firewall ain't up
[01:31] <Squee-D> so im thining the provider has a modem of some kind
[01:31] <Kyral> ElitePete: alphy
[01:31] <rabbit1> why???
[01:31] <Forza> Does programs i uninstall leave any traces in Linux?
[01:31] <ElitePete> Squee-D, found 0 pci cable modems ;-p
[01:31] <progamer> can anyone provide me a full shell command to get an mp4 codec or play ?
[01:31] <Kyral> Forza: it leaves behinds its configs in /home
[01:31] <alphy> Kyral, then it's got to be a port problem, right?
[01:32] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > for people who don't want to mess their MBR for whatever reason
[01:32] <sklav> progamer,  check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:32] <Squee-D> ElitePete thats cause you dont want to see it
[01:32] <HymnToLife> but I don't think it's your case for just a dual boot
[01:32] <mwe> ElitePete: follow the first link here: http://www.google.dk/search?q=cable+modem+pci
[01:32] <Squee-D> I had one in australia
[01:32] <sklav> there is information on how to do what you want
[01:32] <Squee-D> http://www.cable-modems.org/gallery/
[01:32] <Forza> Kyral, is it any program that cleans that out then?
[01:32] <Kyral> alphy: I'm thinking either the modem has a NAT Firewall or the ISP is just flat out blocking those ports
[01:32] <rabbit1> HmnToLife: haha, it still works though?
[01:32] <Kyral> Forza: you'd have to kill them manually
[01:32] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > yes
[01:32] <Kyral> Forza: they are normally .<programname>
[01:32] <alphy> Kyral, no way to fix it?
[01:32] <ElitePete> http://www.google.dk/search?q=cable+modem+pci
[01:32] <ElitePete> all those are external
[01:33] <Kyral> alphy: no..sorry. CHannel Gnutella into a different port
[01:33] <Kyral> ElitePete: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <rabbit1> HmnToLife: okaay..
[01:33] <alphy> Kyral, change the port it listens to?
[01:33] <Kyral> alphy: yah
[01:33] <Forza> Kyral, so if I use the Package Manager in Ubuntu to uninstall them they will leave some traces?
[01:34] <intelikey> what does this do ?    | sed s/':K'/': K'/g
[01:34] <HymnToLife> Forza > you can choose "remove completely" in synaptic
[01:34] <Kyral> Forza: They will leave behind the local config files in your homedir
[01:34] <Kyral> HymnToLife: Purging doesn't take care of things in $HOME
[01:34] <alphy> Kyral, when I do that do I need to set it to a certain number because there is a random setting and when I do that do I need to restart the app?
[01:34] <raphink> intelikey: this searches for `:K' in the output and replaces it with `: K'
[01:34] <HymnToLife> Kyral > then you can delete them manually
[01:35] <Kyral> alphy: I dunno...I don't use that app
[01:35] <Kyral> HymnToLife: I know :P
[01:35] <os2mac> Having problems with my sound after I updated to Dapper (I am running Kubuntu)
[01:35] <intelikey> raphink but what is   K  in sed ?
[01:35] <mwe> ElitePete: I guess I'll just stop playing clever about something I don't know shite about :)
[01:35] <os2mac> anyone able to help?
[01:35] <raphink> intelikey: just a K,
[01:35] <HymnToLife> os2mac > no
[01:35] <intelikey> hmmmm  odd
[01:35] <raphink> intelikey: it searches for `K:' (sic)
[01:35] <brownie17> cna someone tell me what i should put in the command line if i want to use a different audio track while playing a dvd in mplayer
[01:35] <HymnToLife> but if you tell us your soundcard model, maybe :p
[01:35] <raphink> intelikey: the K is not interpreted in this expression
[01:36] <alphy> Kyral, do you use a P2P, I could always just get a new p2p program
[01:36] <intelikey> really
[01:36] <Forza> I see, but I think i have a lot of old config files then, aint there any program that cleans up that so I dont have to do it manually?
[01:36] <Kyral> os2mac: I don't mean to sound like an ass, but this is the risk we who test dapper accept
[01:36] <intelikey> ok
[01:36] <Kyral> alphy: I use BitTorrent
[01:36] <alphy> Kyral, you can download music with that?
[01:36] <werty> can anyone help me with my pen pad...
[01:36] <Stormx2> Kyral: Only for legal stuff right? ;-)
[01:36] <raphink> intelikey: for example, if sed finds :: amaroK: hello
[01:36] <HymnToLife> alphy > buy CDs...
[01:37] <benplaut> Seveas: is your website down?
[01:37] <Kyral> Stormx2: Anime ;P
[01:37] <raphink> intelikey: hmm stupid example, nm
[01:37] <Squee-D> alphy im wondering a couple of things.. firstly. does the cable provider have a box in your house? at the other end of the ethernet cable? theres a good chance that that is a router.
[01:37] <os2mac> I understand.. Kyral....
[01:37] <raphink> lol
[01:37] <Stormx2> yeah CDs give you a warm fuzzy feeling
[01:37] <Stormx2> Kyral: Fansubs right ;-)
[01:37] <ElitePete> mwe,  ?
[01:37] <Kyral> Stormx2: yah ;P
[01:37] <Squee-D> alphy and secondly, it's always possible that your provider is deliberately blocking some P2P?
[01:37] <brownie17> somebody tell me what you type in to watch a dvd in mplayer with the other audio track
[01:37] <alphy> squee-d, I'm using insight, and when i had windows I had 3-4 different p2p apps
[01:38] <os2mac> for the record it's onboard sound for a Dell Inspiron 8600 it idents as Intel 82801DB
[01:38] <Squee-D> is insight a provider?
[01:38] <ElitePete> alphy, you could get limewire? or azureus
[01:38] <mwe> ElitePete: I don't know if there is such a thing as a pci cable modem, so I'll stop trolling about it :)
[01:38] <ElitePete> mwe, their is a PCI cable adaptor thats all i found
[01:38] <Squee-D> mwe/elitepete there is, i USED one
[01:38] <alphy> elitePete, I want Limewire, I know limewire but, I'm having problems getting java so I can run it
[01:38] <intelikey> i was trying to find out why this filter wasn't working like i thought it should raphink        "   | grep -ne [[:alnum:] ]  | sed s/':K'/': K'/g  "
[01:38] <sklav> see you all later
[01:38] <HymnToLife> !javadebs
[01:38] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[01:38] <brownie17> Madpilot, can you tell me what extension i use to make mplayer play a different audio track
[01:38] <sklav> im going to eat
[01:39] <ElitePete> alphy, java is ez on ubuntu do what obotu says
[01:39] <ElitePete> Squee-D, yea? i bet the speeds/stability suck
[01:39] <alphy> elitepete, how do I get azureus?
[01:39] <Squee-D> http://www.cable-modem.net/pi/docsiscm.html list here shows a great number of internal cable modems
[01:39] <ElitePete> am i right?
[01:39] <ElitePete> alphy sudo apt-get install azureus
[01:39] <Squee-D> ElitePete it was fine in the day
[01:39] <apokryphos> !tell alphy about azureus
[01:39] <Kyral> ick Azureus
[01:39] <intelikey> it was supposed to number the lines of the previous output raphink
[01:39] <apokryphos> ElitePete: no -- it's not in the repos.
[01:39] <Kyral> BitTorrnado
[01:40] <ElitePete> apokryphos, it is i think you need to enable multiverse
[01:40] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, you're usually in the know, wanna help a brutha out with his lm-sens0ri0r problem ?
[01:40] <HymnToLife> apo > just visit the link ubotu gave
[01:40] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, I never found azureus in repos
[01:40] <mwe> Squee-D: all I get from that link are external ones though
[01:40] <Shadyman> !sources
[01:40] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:40] <raphink> intelikey: weird
[01:40] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i know i didn't dl it, i apt-get'd it
[01:40] <apokryphos> ElitePete: nope, it isn't :)
[01:40] <Toma-> !azureus
[01:40] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:40] <Squee-D> ElitePete its not really an issue, the things exist, and from what i gleaned out of alphy, i was thinking he meant that the cable ran into his box... I misunderstood, but i wasn't wrong in considering the possibility. you were, and you really need to just leave it at that.
[01:40] <Squee-D> mwe use search man
[01:41] <Squee-D> Im sure you guys are being blind to make me angry
[01:41] <progamer> gstreamer0.8-faac_0.8.11-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:41] <progamer> gstreamer0.8-faac_0.8.11-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'
[01:41] <progamer> what does that mean?
[01:41] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: I don't think I'd be able to -- I know nothing of them, really :)
[01:41] <ElitePete> Squee-D, please grow up.. their is no such thing
[01:41] <Squee-D> Under producat notes?
[01:41] <Squee-D> product
[01:41] <HymnToLife> progamer > where did you get your package from ?
[01:41] <Stormx2> Ack >.< Women
[01:41] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, damn fool, you dun sold me out
[01:41] <progamer> HymnToLife: Some website
[01:42] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, you were right, azureus is not in apt-get but you do need multiverse enabled for the other stuff.
[01:42] <HymnToLife> then you should tell the bloke who built it that his package doesn't work
[01:42] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, yeah its a pain in the butt, but it keeps things stable during everyones learning phase
[01:42] <progamer> HymnToLife: ok thanks
[01:42] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i think i can help you with LM sensors
[01:42] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i got them working yesterday
[01:42] <alphy> elitepete, it says the package is not available, the exact same thing I get when I try to install java.  do I not have something set right to install these?
[01:43] <ElitePete> alphy, do this.
[01:43] <ElitePete> one second.
[01:43] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, if you do, you will be the daddy, I may need to undo everything thats been done so far, ill hold on till you sort out alphy
[01:43] <yanis> hello
[01:43] <loststar> Hello
[01:43] <ElitePete> alphy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:43] <HymnToLife> progamer > and install the package from the official repos
[01:43] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, their is one part in the wiki, that is wrong.
[01:43] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, let me try to find it one sec
[01:43] <progamer> HymnToLife: I Couldn't find the official
[01:43] <HymnToLife> !repos
[01:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:44] <yanis> can I add in fstab an usb hard disc to be mounted?or the hotplug module is loaded after mounting fstab?
[01:44] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, do you have the wiki page link by chance
[01:44] <dwhsix> weird... anyone know where to find gtkpod-aac?  I've got multiverse enabled in synaptic, should it show up there?
[01:44] <ElitePete> oh wait...
[01:44] <ElitePete> !sensors
[01:44] <ubotu> well, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[01:44] <loststar> I just installed ubuntu 5.10 but the problem is  it starts up  i see the ubuntu screen and  it does some stuff then the screen goes blacfk with a with box in the corner
[01:44] <alphy> elitepete, I've done this, I have every option box checked in the repository section
[01:44] <ElitePete> alphy, ok one sec
[01:45] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, i followed it and some forum attempts, so bear in mind i may need to start from scratch and remove stuff, so err... my n00bism is about to show thru
[01:45] <pk_volt> how do i do a search for apt-get
[01:45] <abarbaccia> hey all - if i built a module and its something.ko and i want it to be insmod'd at boot - where do i place it?
[01:45] <alphy> elitepete, I know I'm probably a bother, thanks for helping
[01:45] <Kyral> pk_volt: apt-cache search <whatever>
[01:45] <pk_volt> thanks
[01:45] <HymnToLife> progamer > the package you're looking for is in Multiverse repo
[01:45] <ElitePete> alphy, no problem people have helped me tons
[01:45] <russ_> hello people :)
[01:45] <senthil> TimMagic, Hi i need your help
[01:45] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[01:45] <ElitePete> did you do that?
[01:46] <rabbit1> if you setup the network during the install, does the installer get more up to date packages from the internet??
[01:46] <ElitePete> it says to do it without sudo in the wiki, but you MUST do it with.
[01:46] <senthil> TimMagic, Are u busy ?
[01:46] <ompaul> http://www.cable-modem.net/pi/docsiscm.html see  DOCSIS 1.0 internal PCI card
[01:46] <alphy> elitePete, that's cool, I just like the idea of free source and wanna figure out how to use linux and get my comp back the way I like it
[01:46] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, i did it as SUDO but yes
[01:46] <ElitePete> alphy, yea im trying to find something for you but it's eluding me
[01:47] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, hmm
[01:47] <russ_> wow, this is a busy channel!  Anyone able to give me some advice on getting my iPod and Shuffle up and running under Ubuntu
[01:47] <russ_> ?
[01:47] <vincent_> good night
[01:47] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me where the repos file is again.
[01:47] <ElitePete> so i can helps omone
[01:47] <Madpilot> russ_: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:47] <WebLOCH> russ_, checkout rhythmbox, it supports some iPod functionality like iTunes does
[01:47] <Kyral> ElitePete: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <senthil> ompaul, Hi i need you help. If i minimize my windows its not in the bottom panel
[01:47] <ElitePete> ty
[01:47] <HymnToLife> I suggest using amaroK
[01:47] <ompaul> senthil, what is its and why me?
[01:47] <HymnToLife> way better than Rythmbox imo
[01:48] <ElitePete> alphy, i'm going to send you a file
[01:48] <senthil> ompaul, I believe you can help me
[01:48] <WebLOCH> HymnToLife, I use BMP anyway (Beep Media Player)
[01:48] <dwhsix> russ_: I'm having the same issues right now (getting an iPod to work on Ubuntu)... feel like I'm going around in circles...
[01:48] <Kyral> ElitePete: what a sources.list?
[01:48] <senthil> ompaul, IF not no problem :(
[01:48] <HymnToLife> !ipod is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:48] <ubotu> ...but ipod is already something else...
[01:48] <ompaul> senthil, well your question is not clear can you give more context to me
[01:48] <ElitePete> Kyral, yea.
[01:48] <alphy> elitepete, ummm... okay
[01:48] <WebLOCH> dwhsix, the best idea is to get a better mp3 player :P
[01:48] <ElitePete> alphy, scratch that do this.
[01:48] <Kyral> ElitePete: don't have any sketchy repos
[01:48] <Madpilot> !ipod
[01:48] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:49] <ElitePete> Kyral, i have only official repos
[01:49] <Kyral> ElitePete: Okay
[01:49] <Kyral> ElitePete: Just being cautous :P
[01:49] <rabbit1> if you setup the network during the install, does the installer get more up to date packages from the internet??
[01:49] <leo_> any other topic
[01:49] <russ_> Madpilot, lol.  I've got Rhythmbox playing music in another virtual screen.  But now that I look I see that it has recognised my 3G iPod :) Thanks
[01:49] <dwhsix> WebLOCH: I've thought of that (I may return the iPod).  What wouold you recommend?
[01:49] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > no
[01:49] <senthil> ompaul, Sure For example if i open firefox and minimise the window it should be in the bottom panel
[01:49] <jgrieves> anybody good with hotplug?
[01:49] <HymnToLife> but you can update after the install is completed
[01:49] <ElitePete> alphy, do this
[01:50] <rabbit1> HmnToLife: how?
[01:50] <ElitePete> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:50] <ElitePete> and leave that window open
[01:50] <loststar> I just installed ubuntu 5.10 but the problem is  it starts up  i see the ubuntu screen and  it does some stuff then the screen goes blacfk with a with box in the corner
[01:50] <rendi> hi how to remove this line from my browser "Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)"
[01:50] <jgrieves> I have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.
[01:50] <jgrieves> Should I be able to just load with the ohci_hcd module instead of ehci_hcd module?
[01:50] <pk_volt> how do I exit my wm
[01:50] <Kyral> pk_volt: whihc WM?
[01:50] <dwhsix> and btw HymnToLife, the IPodHowto page isn't as helpful as it might be...
[01:50] <ompaul> senthil, start a terminal and type this command in it >> killall nautilus<< and if that does not work restart your session (I presume you are using gnome as this is #ubuntu)
[01:50] <HymnToLife> rabbit1 > change your soures.list by following the link ubotu will give and ru the Update manager
[01:50] <WebLOCH> dwhsix, Archos make some nice products
[01:50] <HymnToLife> !repos
[01:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:50] <benplaut> anyone know how to get a gpg key for Sevea*s's repos?
[01:50] <benplaut> the site is down
[01:50] <pk_volt> well, i'm using gnome right now, how do I exit it
[01:51] <alphy> elitepete, okay, it's open
[01:51] <HymnToLife> dwhsix > dunno, I never used it :p
[01:51] <russ_> Ok, so the 3G is working just nicely.  What about the shuffle do I just have to add it to my fstab?
[01:51] <Kyral> pk_volt: Should be on the Systme menu and logoff
[01:51] <pk_volt> ic
[01:51] <pk_volt> thanks
[01:51] <Kyral> I think
[01:51] <Kyral> its been a while since I used GNOME :D
[01:51] <Kyral> I guess it works
[01:51] <ElitePete> alphy, now clear all text out of that file but don't save, then open this link and copy all this text into that file and save it, then open terminal and do sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <ElitePete> alphy, http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/alphy.txt
[01:53] <ElitePete> alphy, working?
[01:53] <sklav> i got ubuntu working like a king
[01:53] <WebLOCH> dwhsix, the iRivier range are pretty good, I think they did the HP100 which my friend uses, its very nice
[01:53] <sklav> except for the overwieght lazy part its awesome now
[01:53] <ompaul> sklav, I rather when it is like an operating system myself :)
[01:53] <alphy> elitepete, it's doing something
[01:54] <sklav> ompaul, ;)
[01:54] <ElitePete> alphy, in terminal?
[01:54] <ElitePete> !java
[01:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:54] <SirKillalot> can I change the icons of all folders without having to change the whole icon theme i have installed?
[01:54] <dwhsix> WebLOCH: thanks, we've probably veered offtopic <grin>
[01:54] <alphy> elitepete, yeah, but I think it's stuck at 99%
[01:54] <benplaut> !freenx
[01:54] <ubotu> freenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:54] <benplaut> !bad bot
[01:54] <ubotu> no, you're a bad person benplaut!
[01:54] <benplaut> 0_o
[01:54] <ElitePete> alphy, hold on.
[01:55] <WebLOCH> dwhsix, no problem :D
[01:55] <jgrieves> I have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.
[01:55] <jgrieves> Should I be able to just load with the ohci_hcd module instead of ehci_hcd module?
[01:55] <ossie> hi , back again
[01:55] <alphy> elitePete, okay
[01:55] <ElitePete> alphy mine is stuck at 99 also.
[01:55] <ElitePete> but it should be ok
[01:55] <WebLOCH> anyone know what the difference between FreeNX and VNC is ?
[01:56] <benplaut> WebLOCH: FreeNX is alot faster
[01:56] <alphy> elitePete, okay, what does that mean?
[01:56] <ossie> this time i have problems with my sound stopping when ever i seem to put any(any litle thing) load on the computer
[01:56] <yanis> does all the scripts in the rcX.d dir are run one after the other?
[01:56] <Squee-D> WebLOCH no technical knowlege but freenx is really fast.
[01:56] <ElitePete> alphy, means the site might be down or something
[01:56] <ElitePete> alphy, here is the java page try doing what it says now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[01:56] <Squee-D> WebLOCH but i've also found the freeenx windows client to be very buggy
[01:56] <ElitePete> 99% [Connecting to public.planetmirror.com (203.16.234.90)] 
[01:56] <sklav> ossie, look into hdparm
[01:56] <ElitePete> is that what you have alphy ?
[01:56] <sklav> that used to solve my issue
[01:57] <ElitePete> alphy, mine finished
[01:57] <alphy> elitePete, no I have 99% [Waiting for Headers] 
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Squee-D, benplaut cheersfor the info :)
[01:57] <ElitePete> alphy, yea thats whati  meant mine is their now.
[01:57] <ossie> cheers sklav
[01:57] <ossie> man hdparm ???
[01:57] <sklav> try the following
[01:57] <WebLOCH> hey ElitePete. should I have mentioned i use 686smp ?
[01:57] <ElitePete> alphy, try installing java now from that link above
[01:57] <pery> hi
[01:58] <alphy> elitePete, okay
[01:58] <Viper550> Hello!
[01:58] <sklav> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda is that is your device
[01:58] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i'm no expert, i figured you had made the same mistake as me, since you didn't i really don't know how to help :\
[01:58] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, ahh no problem
[01:58] <WebLOCH> Anyone fancy a Sensor challenge ?
[01:58] <iamsthitha> hey
[01:58] <iamsthitha> anyone use camcorders here?
[01:58] <leo_> hi
[01:59] <iamsthitha> miniDV stuff
[01:59] <ossie> what kind of setting should i use with it sklav
[01:59] <ossie> ???
[01:59] <Phocion> hey all....successfully installed Ubuntu on my laptop. But it never detected my wireless card.  Should it have?..........
[01:59] <leo_> /
[01:59] <leo_> ??
[01:59] <HymnToLife> !ndiswrapper
[01:59] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:59] <sklav> i just told you to enable dma for starters
[01:59] <alphy> elitepete, it's downloading java now, thank you so freaking much
[01:59] <sklav> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda is that is your device
[01:59] <Viper550> Who uses IRSSI? I do now!
[01:59] <ElitePete> alphy, no problem do you have aim or msn? i can add you for future questions
[02:00] <jgrieves> I have a device that looks like it is using ehci_hcd and not ohci_hcd, which is what I want. I don't want to throw ehci_hcd into blacklist as I want to keep all of my other usb devices/hard drives working. I tried adding ohci_hcd to the usb.rc goofing around with the usb hotplug scripts, but I am afraid I am just scratching the surface. Internet articles are a bit scant in this area.
[02:00] <apokryphos> Viper550: you have my sympathies
[02:00] <leo_> sudo passwd root
[02:00] <jgrieves> sorry
[02:00] <Phocion> Hymn: Yea I saw that, but I would like to actually install native linux drivers
[02:00] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: i us a dvi camcorder via firewire, but don't know if i can help
[02:00] <pery> how i can if my wireless card SMCWCBT-G (pcmcia) accept mode monitor?????
[02:00] <Viper550> aka Apokryphos uses IRSSI, right?
[02:00] <alphy> elitepete, I have msn, my email there is john_skow@hotmail.com
[02:00] <apokryphos> Viper550: aka: good luck
[02:01] <apokryphos> Viper550: tend to generally use konversation/kvirc
[02:01] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, well I'm trying to get my video onto my computer.. trying to use kino.. but no luck :\
[02:01] <Phocion> where would I start to go about installing linux drivers for a built-in broadcom wifi card???
[02:01] <sklav> any better ossie ?
[02:01] <Viper550> Also, who uses e17?
[02:01] <ElitePete> alphy, ok added
[02:01] <bashed__> hi
[02:02] <ossie> i looked at man, but i dont see what i should do
[02:02] <bashed__> ok..
[02:02] <sklav> ossie, if you man hdparm for more advanced option make sure not to use the experiemental or "dangerous options
[02:02] <sklav> ossie do the following
[02:02] <ossie> cheers
[02:02] <sklav> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in a terminal
[02:02] <bashed__> so my eth0 connection is setup with dhcp, and it renews every once in a while, wiping all the dns information
[02:02] <bashed__> how can i prevent it from renewing all the time?
[02:02] <ossie> cool dma is on
[02:02] <sklav> bashed_, its dhcp you cant
[02:02] <SirKillalot> can I change the icons of all folders without having to change the whole icon theme i have installed?
[02:02] <sklav> try playing some music now
[02:03] <Viper550> I was able to compile E17 from CVS on Breezy.
[02:03] <ossie> sklav, i was also getting bad disk performace
[02:03] <senthil> ompaul, I did R&D and fixed my issue
[02:03] <dwhsix> is there a breezy-extras like hoary-extras?
[02:03] <senthil> ompaul, Sorry for offending you
[02:03] <sklav> ossie, then something like the following might help
[02:03] <jgrieves> does ubuntu use usb.usermap file?
[02:03] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, what do you use to get video into the computer?
[02:03] <sklav> sudo hdparm -d1 -X66  /dev/hda in a terminal
[02:03] <jgrieves> the usb.usermap file doesn't seem to be around, i mean its in the share
[02:03] <ompaul> senthil, you did not offend, I just found it funny that someone actually thought I would be useful
[02:03] <sklav> but its important to know what type of hdd you have
[02:04] <jgrieves> but doese ubuntu even probe for i twith hotplug
[02:04] <Shadyman> where do you get kernel source?
[02:04] <Viper550> e17 is so wicked!
[02:04] <jgrieves> for it with hotplug
[02:04] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: Kino
[02:04] <ossie> cheers
[02:04] <senthil> ompaul, :-)
[02:04] <ossie> ill save them commands
[02:04] <iamsthitha> hmm
[02:04] <mcjerry> iamsthiha: how do you have it connected?
[02:04] <iamsthitha> thru the firewire card
[02:04] <ossie> seems to have fixed it
[02:04] <sklav> ossie, you can add them to /etc/hdparm.conf once your positive everything is up to speed
[02:05] <sklav> and to test the speed / performance try
[02:05] <ossie> ill have to learn how to map the drives at boot, and then set the mode
[02:05] <ossie> u read my mind sklav
[02:05] <AJ359> i'm trying to get my netgear ma111 to install and i'm trying to install linux-wlan i've gotten as far as unpacking the tar ball in /usr/src and i have the kernel source but when i try and use the "make config" in terminal it says "bash: make: command not found" i tried opening the configure file from the gui and running it in terminal it can't run properly b/c for almost everything it wants to do it says permission denied. any help at a
[02:05] <sklav> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[02:05] <bashed__> how can i find out my gateway IP address?
[02:05] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, I can remote control my camcorder from Kino.. but when I hit capture.. it just starts some countdown and doesnt do anything
[02:05] <sklav> will give some speed tests
[02:05] <sklav> not 100% accurate but you will see a difference
[02:05] <b_e_n_z> bashed_, route -n
[02:05] <sklav> faster the better ;)
[02:06] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: then you are further along than I am......I get serious lag, not smooth video.....haven't gotten it to remote yet
[02:06] <ossie> sklav, where would i mount hdrives at boot up?
[02:06] <sklav> ?
[02:06] <sklav> mount
[02:06] <bashed__> b_e_n_z, is there a difference between leaving the gateway field in an interface blank, or putting 0.0.0.0?
[02:06] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, heh.. at least you have video
[02:06] <sklav> /etc/fstab
[02:06] <ossie> yes they dont auto mount
[02:07] <sklav> to mount them on boot
[02:07] <Shadyman> AJ359: sudo apt-get install dev-essentials
[02:07] <sklav> some readinw ill be required
[02:07] <Shadyman> AJ359: I think that's the one
[02:07] <ossie> ok
[02:07] <sklav> are u suing the live cd/
[02:07] <mcjerry> iamsthitha, the bottom row of buttons av/c capture etc just flicker for me here
[02:07] <iamsthitha> by the way... mcjerry what version of kino do you have?
[02:07] <AJ359> Shadyman: will it work if i don't have the internet on it?
[02:07] <sklav> im dislexic it seems
[02:07] <Shadyman> AJ359: No.
[02:07] <ossie> no , i added a driver for a ide cardf i have, and now mount my drives each boot up
[02:07] <bobbyd> can I get firefox 1.5 under ubuntu?
[02:07] <loststar> ok just installed ubuntu when it starts normally  i see the ubuntu screen and the progress bar after a few secounds i get a black screen with a white cursor  blinking in the corner i tried starting in recovery mode and using startx  but all i get is a black screen
[02:07] <Shadyman> AJ359: Can you plug it in via ethernet, or something?
[02:08] <AJ359> Shadyman: it's an old old dell laptop and it doesn't even have an ethernet port :/
[02:08] <sklav> damn the wife is calling ;)
[02:08] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: is 0.8.0 on dapper install
[02:08] <ossie> ok cheers anyway sklav
[02:08] <sklav> hehe
[02:08] <AJ359> Shadyman: anyother way around it?
[02:08] <sklav> ossie you need to add the drives to /etc/fstab
[02:08] <sklav> to automount them for you
[02:09] <WebLOCH> You all loves the sensors
[02:09] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, hmm.. I have 0.8.0 as well
[02:09] <sklav> im not sure if automount is default on ubuntu
[02:09] <sklav> its another program that does it
[02:09] <martman> im having some mouting problems of my own
[02:09] <Shadyman> AJ359: I'm sure you could download it to CD or something fun like that, but I don't know how.
[02:09] <Forza>  Dont Linux also have a registry as Windows where programs leave some traces?
[02:09] <iamsthitha> BRB
[02:10] <martman> i edited my fstab and chmod a+rw it
[02:10] <martman> but still cant mount as normal user
[02:10] <sklav> registry is evil and sucks
[02:10] <Shadyman> sklav: I agree.
[02:10] <Shadyman> sklav: rm *registry*
[02:10] <Shadyman> sklav: ;)
[02:10] <lightbright> Shadyman: hello shady character
[02:10] <Forza> sklav, should i take it as a no on my question?
[02:10] <jgrieves> does ubuntu run usb.usermap files?
[02:10] <jgrieves> i.e. can i just copy the usb.usermap file over?
[02:11] <Shadyman> lightbright: Hey. *sneaks some more*
[02:11] <sklav> martman, try adding an entry like this is /etc/fstab /dev/fd0        /media/devicename  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:11] <glick> excuse me does anyone know how to create playlists in gtkpod?
[02:11] <klaxia1> i wonder if anyone can help me
[02:11] <glick> i cant figure it out?
[02:11] <lightbright> Shadyman: :P
[02:11] <klaxia1> i can't get sound to work when playing flash in firefox
[02:11] <Delvien> Anyone use a Philips Gogear MP3 player here????
[02:11] <lightbright> glick: never ever ever ever givup - Winston Churchill
[02:11] <sklav> why use a registry when you have /etc/*
[02:12] <Shadyman> exactly.
[02:12] <WebLOCH> lm-sensor helpz anyone?
[02:12] <klaxia1> has anyone ever had problems getting sound to work for flash media in firefox?
[02:12] <Delvien> webloch whats your question
[02:12] <glick> i can create a list
[02:12] <glick> but how can i add songs to it?
[02:12] <sklav> klaxia1, i use the flash from macromedia so i have no issue
[02:12] <WebLOCH> Delvien, I can link you to the post i just made on forums if thats any good?  It explains whats gone on
[02:12] <sklav> gplflash is buggy
[02:12] <Delvien> sure
[02:13] <WebLOCH> Delvien, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108707
[02:13] <sklav> ok im out
[02:13] <lightbright> glick: just relax
[02:13] <sklav> later all
[02:13] <klaxia1> sklav: i'm using the nonfree flash player version
[02:13] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: do you have the file permissions set correctly for /dev/raw1394 and /dev/dv1394
[02:13] <glick> relaz?
[02:13] <lightbright> glick: you are very anxoius
[02:13] <sklav> then the issue might be with your sound card setup
[02:13] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, I'm running as root.. so I think I'm fine
[02:13] <klaxia1> sklav: so run alsaconf?
[02:13] <klaxia1> sklav: sound works for everything else
[02:13] <DrSpin> hey all -- I'm running apache2 and I'm trying to get PHP to work with Server Side Includes -- they work fine with .shtml how can I make it work with PHP as well?
[02:13] <sklav> probably
[02:14] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, I dont have a /dev/dv1394 tho
[02:14] <Delvien> webloch does your motherboard have sensors?
[02:14] <sklav> my sndcard works out of the box so call me lazy but i only purchase hardware that is known to work on linux
[02:14] <iamsthitha> wait. .yes I do
[02:14] <sklav> hum
[02:14] <klaxia1> sklav: mine works for everything else
[02:14] <b_e_n_z> WebLOCH, you ran sensors-detect?
[02:14] <klaxia1> sklav: just flash in firefox plays without sound
[02:15] <sklav> weird
[02:15] <sklav> instead of using the nonfree deb
[02:15] <jenda-zZz> Hey, is there a reason my monitor always turned off after an hour of idleness and now it doesn't?
[02:15] <sklav> try the macromedia verison
[02:15] <WebLOCH> Delvien, b_e_n_z, as far as I know, my mobo does have sensors, the BIOS outputs the info,  b_e_n_z yeah I did run sensors detect
[02:15] <klaxia1> sklav: you mean download from the macromedia site?
[02:15] <toya_> hey people, how do you set default programs for opening certain files
[02:15] <Delvien> webloch have you looked at the cpu0 info?
[02:15] <sklav> well download from firefox site
[02:15] <iamsthitha> sweeeet!
[02:15] <klaxia1> sklav: i've been using the ubuntu one for all my other computers with no trouble
[02:15] <jenda-zZz> toya_: right click, propertios
[02:15] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, I got it to work
[02:15] <sklav> uninstall flash-nonfree
[02:16] <sklav> and then go to a site with macromdeia flash
[02:16] <klaxia1> sklav: i'd rather stay on the ubuntu version
[02:16] <martman> sklav still no luck
[02:16] <sklav> it will ask you to get plugin and install it
[02:16] <Delvien> webloch i forget where it is , but a kde program called ksysguard helped me out when i was getting the info on my CPU
[02:16] <toya_> ok thx
[02:16] <klaxia1> sklav: there are lots of other people who have this problem with ubuntu i guess...i've been searching google
[02:16] <WebLOCH> Delvien, not sure how i would get cpu info, ?
[02:16] <klaxia1> sklav: i tried all their suggestions but i still can't get it to work
[02:16] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: pm ok?
[02:16] <sklav> klaxia1, maybe the issue is with the package
[02:17] <sklav> as im not using it and i dont have the issue
[02:17] <klaxia1> sklav: maybe, but i have several other computers working fine with it
[02:17] <iamsthitha> mcjerry, sure
[02:17] <sklav> but there are more talent people here who might have a better solution
[02:17] <klaxia1> sklav: no prob, thanks for trying
[02:17] <jenda-zZz> Can anyone think of something that has to be done for a monitor to turn off automatically after and hour of idleness?
[02:17] <klaxia1> anyone else have any ideas?
[02:17] <sklav> i dont know to be honest try dpkg --reconfigure flash-nonfree
[02:17] <Delvien> webloch thats what i dont remember, ... but i run on a laptop so i know its different for me, do a search of your filesystem for CPU
[02:17] <sklav> maybe somehting screwed up on the install
[02:18] <airmikey> im trying to compile pekwm but i get this error after typing ./configure ... Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm
[02:18] <klaxia1> sklav: i'll try but i already did ;)
[02:18] <sklav> sorry then as im out of ideas
[02:18] <sklav> same here going to eat and watch tv
[02:18] <sklav> i speak to you all later
[02:19] <mcjerry> iamsthitha: i pm'd u, did you get it, if not, are you registered/
[02:20] <martman> i still keep getting "could not enter folder" when i try to mount a partiton as a user
[02:20] <martman> i edited my fstab
[02:20] <toya_> martman
[02:20] <toya_> where is the folder?
[02:20] <WebLOCH> Delvien, cat /proc/cpuinfo worked, but it doesnt show me any temp info
[02:20] <toya_> '/media/windows?
[02:20] <martman> toya_  /media/hdb1
[02:21] <toya_> toya_, try this 'sudo chmod ugo+rx /media/hdb1'
[02:21] <toya_> is it a windows ntfs partition?
[02:21] <Shadyman> This apt has super cow powers.
[02:21] <martman> yeah, it is
[02:21] <toya_> ok yeah
[02:21] <Shadyman> try /media/hda1
[02:21] <Shadyman> or whatever
[02:22] <BudaH> Gnome support superkaramba?
[02:23] <pashaw> martman,   you should have replaced defaults  with -> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000  for that ntfs mount
[02:23] <martman> im still getting the same error
[02:24] <toya_> oh
[02:24] <toya_> martman, did you restart yet?
[02:24] <toya_> martman, don't need to, try 'mount a' i think
[02:24] <pashaw> martman,   did you umount it and mount again AFTER editing fstab
[02:25] <martman> yeah, i did umouny iy
[02:25] <toya_> where is the trash folder located at?
[02:25] <pashaw> martman,  humor us   umount it again  then type mount  to make sure its not
[02:25] <martman> k
[02:26] <WebLOCH> Delvien, did you get my last message?
[02:27] <ossie> guys how do i use this command to specify the version of GCC im using when compiling a app
[02:27] <ossie> MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4"
[02:27] <bashed_> ok i fixed the disconnection issue
[02:27] <bashed_> i still have the google issue
[02:27] <sorush20> has anyone here insalled kde but there are gnome dialogues?
[02:27] <WebLOCH> ossie,  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-x.x
[02:28] <WebLOCH> check the path to make sure thats correct
[02:28] <ossie> cool
[02:28] <ossie> cheers
[02:28] <bashed_> what should the default gateway be in a dsl connection, ppp0 or eth0?
[02:28] <ossie> so i set a enviroment vairable for it?
[02:28] <martman> still nothing...wow....
[02:28] <WebLOCH> ossie, yeah but its temporary
[02:28] <martman> i heard that things get screwy when you setup root.....this the case?
[02:28] <chaoticgeek> ok, I screwed up my firefox
[02:28] <WebLOCH> ossie, im pretty sure its vaporized as soon as you close th terminal you typed it in, so make sure you use that terminal to do anything else
[02:29] <pashaw> martman,   OMg your using root
[02:29] <ossie> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check , any ideas what this is all about?>
[02:29] <Stormx2> My friend is going to install ubuntu. He gets his internet through USB (usb router), will it work OK?
[02:29] <chaoticgeek> I was trying to update to the newest one and so I just tried copying everything to place where firefox was /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox but it does not work now
[02:29] <Shadyman> Stormx2: Sure.
[02:30] <martman> i know, i know, having a root account on a linux box....pretty radical i know, but i felt brave at the time
[02:30] <WebLOCH> ossie, a sanity check is a check against something you KNOW is true. if a sanity check fails, the logic of the system is wrong in some way, in your case it will be specific to what you are trying to compile
[02:30] <martman> just wondering...
[02:30] <chaoticgeek> it says there are too many levels levels of symbolic links
[02:30] <pashaw> martman,   if you know enough about Ubuntu that you "thik" you need root   then you can fix this error easy
[02:30] <chaoticgeek> lol Shadyman
[02:31] <ossie> ok cheers, im trying to compile kiso,. a tool for converting isos
[02:31] <chaoticgeek> anyone?
[02:31] <WebLOCH> Dont suppose anyone else wants to pick up where i Delvien left off with my lm-sensor problem?
[02:31] <martman> ahuh.....thats great....
[02:31] <toya_> Stormx2, last time i tried, no
[02:31] <Stormx2> Damn
[02:31] <Stormx2> >.<
[02:32] <Stormx2> Any other thoughts?
[02:32] <toya_> Stormx2, i asked my friend i think what they said was that there's no usb support for internet on linux
[02:32] <Stormx2> Ah nuts
[02:33] <Shadyman> !kernel-source
[02:33] <ubotu> Shadyman: I haven't a clue
[02:33] <Shadyman> hrm
[02:33] <Shadyman> !kernel
[02:33] <Stormx2>  /msg ubotu word
[02:33] <Shadyman> nifty.
[02:33] <Stormx2> !bork Shadyman
[02:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Stormx2
[02:33] <Stormx2> ^_^
[02:33] <jgrieves> Die hotpllug!
[02:33] <Shadyman> bwahaha
[02:33] <toya_> lol
[02:34] <jgrieves> does anyone have any hotplug experience?
[02:34] <jgrieves> been fighting this for quite some time
[02:34] <Stormx2> Anyone else know anything about USB internet on linux?
[02:34] <Shadyman> jgrieves: Yes. If you put a knife into a hot plug, you go ZAP.
[02:34] <chaoticgeek> can anyone help me with firefox? I tried upgrading to FF1.5 but it failed
[02:34] <jgrieves> Shadyman ha
[02:34] <Shadyman> chaoticgeek: Long story.
[02:34] <Shadyman> !firefox15
[02:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[02:34] <jgrieves> Shadyman you know how to load a different driver than one hotplug uses
[02:35] <Shadyman> nopw :)
[02:35] <WebLOCH> Anyone want to try and solve my lm-sensor problem
[02:35] <Shadyman> and I guess i broke ubotu, I can't get his PMs
[02:35] <jgrieves> usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 51
[02:35] <jgrieves> right there
[02:35] <jgrieves> i dont want to use ehci_hcd
[02:36] <jgrieves> use ohci_hcd instead!
[02:36] <jgrieves> hotplug uses so many scripts
[02:37] <jgrieves> yeah that's what i thought, quiet everyone down
[02:37] <jgrieves> BAH humbug
[02:37] <Shadyman> yep[
[02:38] <jgrieves> geez
[02:39] <Wilf> can you get the java runtime off apt?
[02:39] <WebLOCH> Wilf no
[02:39] <Wilf> :(
[02:39] <paulproteus|lapt> !java
[02:39] <randabis> actually you can
[02:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:39] <paulproteus|lapt> !javadebs
[02:39] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:39] <WebLOCH> randabis, you can ?
[02:40] <paulproteus|lapt> Multiverse!
[02:40] <randabis> WebLOCH yeah, just not in the standard repos
[02:40] <Shadyman> !source
[02:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[02:40] <WebLOCH> randabis, well by that same logic, you can also obtain the secret to all life. just not in the standard repos :P  Although it's valid, I think he needed to be pointed at a solution lol.
[02:41] <randabis> WebLOCH which would be !javadebs :)
[02:41] <WebLOCH> indeed
[02:41] <WebLOCH> randabis, i just started prattling before helping, im better at prattling than helping
[02:41] <pashaw> WebLOCH,  agreed
[02:42] <WebLOCH> pashaw, haha cracka!
[02:42] <pashaw> WebLOCH,   :P
[02:42] <pashaw> WebLOCH,  im crabby  i had to frikkin  work today
[02:42] <WebLOCH> pashaw, i had to try to make up with ex today, didnt go smooth, work as bad then?
[02:42] <pashaw> WebLOCH, gunna play CS  so i can stab someone in the face
[02:43] <WebLOCH> haha
[02:44] <Shadyman> hmm... is an AMD Sempron considered 686?
[02:45] <randabis> I like prattling
[02:45] <WebLOCH> randabis, so do i, but i like having working temperature sensors more
[02:45] <randabis> sempron is usually a k7
[02:45] <randabis> sometimes they are k8 derivatives
[02:46] <cafuego> Shadyman: k7
[02:46] <randabis> depends
[02:46] <Shadyman> Fuego!
[02:46] <cafuego> if you have a k8 one, run k7 anyway
[02:46] <randabis> yeah
[02:46] <ossie> guys anyone got a link for good upto date repositorys please
[02:46] <Shadyman> !repos
[02:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:46] <cafuego> Coz Ubuntu64 isn't qute there yet, like PPC.
[02:47] <Shadyman> !easysource
[02:47] <ubotu> hmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:47] <randabis> though running a platform specific kernel on a modern processor really makes little performance difference
[02:47] <Shadyman> go there, ossie
[02:47] <ossie> thank you :)
[02:47] <Shadyman> randabis: True, but hey.
[02:47] <Shadyman> randabis: Any kind of specific extensions will help :)
[02:47] <poimen> !!
[02:47] <ubotu> ??
[02:47] <cafuego> randabis: Indeed, but '386' looks retarded on an Athlon64 ;-)
[02:47] <Shadyman> ROFL
[02:47] <Shadyman> cafuego: Exactly!
[02:47] <poimen> I have a 333Mhz PC in my hands
[02:47] <randabis> cafuego :)
[02:48] <Shadyman> so how do I upgrade my install? with Synaptic?
[02:48] <poimen> It loads windows me
[02:48] <Shadyman> poimen: Windows ME must die.
[02:48] <cafuego> poimen: How much ram does it have?
[02:48] <poimen> It will be a good idea to put ubuntu / xfce in it right?
[02:48] <randabis> I'm using windows :/
[02:48] <randabis> haha
[02:48] <poimen> I dont kwon
[02:48] <poimen> junt handed to me lets see
[02:48] <poimen> I think it has 256 or more
[02:49] <cafuego> poimen: In that case it'll run xubuntu very well.
[02:49] <lightbright> can Ubuntu be affected by emails that contain phising and trojans?  If I read all my emails, can I be affected by key loggers etc?
[02:49] <Shadyman> cafuego: O RLY?
[02:49] <lightbright> cafuego: any ideas?
[02:49] <randabis> cafuego heck it would probably even run kubuntu...my 450mhz p3 with 192 mb of ram does hehe
[02:50] <poimen> xubuntu?
[02:50] <cafuego> randabis: Yes, but there's a difference between "running" and 'running well'.
[02:50] <Shadyman> heh
[02:50] <cafuego> poimen: xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE.
[02:50] <Shadyman> !xfce
[02:50] <ubotu> methinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:50] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: No, unless those key loggers/trojans are specifically written for Linux.
[02:50] <paulproteus|lapt> And even then, perhaps not.
[02:50] <factotum> there is also a difference between running and crashing, in that case anything will work
[02:50] <Shadyman> whoa
[02:50] <randabis> cafuego I would venture to say it runs well
[02:50] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt: ok
[02:50] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: As for phishing, you should always be careful of phishing.
[02:50] <pashaw> lightbright,  no   neither can windows unless your email client auto opens attachments
[02:50] <sproingie> lightbright: there's no viruses in the wild that target linux.  if you run a webserver, there's some active threats.  your email is pretty safe.
[02:51] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt: is there a way to check my system for such things?
[02:51] <toya_> what do you guys use for rss?
[02:51] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: Phishing is emails that claim to be from your bank but aren't.
[02:51] <cafuego> randabis: I have a 350MHz iMac with 128Mb that just can't.
[02:51] <paulproteus|lapt> toya_: Thunderbird.
[02:51] <pashaw> lightbright, or gets redirected by html   linux is still safe there
[02:51] <lightbright> pashaw: when reading an email, does that automiatically open the atttachment?
[02:51] <sproingie> toya_: sage
[02:51] <pashaw> lightbright,  NO
[02:51] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: No, it doesn't automatically open attachments.
[02:51] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt:  when reading an email, does that automiatically open the atttachment?
[02:51] <lightbright> ok thanks
[02:51] <toya_> does sage let you put them on your desktop?
[02:51] <paulproteus|lapt> Sure thing, lightbright.
[02:51] <pashaw> lightbright,  opps banged keyboard didnt mean to use caps
[02:51] <HymnToLife> lightbright > only Outlook is stupid enough to do it :p
[02:51] <lightbright> cause I read all emails. but never save or open attachments!  so should I be safe?
[02:52] <Shadyman> lightbright: Yes, unless you follow links that claim to be your bank or something
[02:52] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt: is there a way to check my system for such things?
[02:52] <Shadyman> :)
[02:52] <sproingie> toya_: sage is a very thin rss/atom client for firefox, it renders feeds and newsletter sheets in firefox, that's about it
[02:52] <lightbright> Shadyman: ok ty
[02:52] <randabis> cafuego yeah I don't know why it runs it so well...I do have to watch how many things I'm running at once though
[02:52] <toya_> o
[02:52] <lightbright> pashaw: I use root kit hunter, is that enough?
[02:52] <sproingie> toya_: very few bells and whistles, but it works well anyway
[02:52] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: Thunderbird will tell you if it suspects an email is a phishing attempt.
[02:52] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt:  I use root kit hunter, is that enough?
[02:52] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: "Phishing" is just another word for "fraud", okay?
[02:53] <paulproteus|lapt> You can't really automatically check for fraudulent emails.
[02:53] <toya_> sproingie, i want something on my desktop
[02:53] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt: I use evolution!  Should I use thunderbvord instead?  Is thunderbord more safe?
[02:53] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: Calm down.
[02:53] <sproingie> toya_: then sage probably isn't for you
[02:53] <owner_> hello?
[02:53] <Shadyman> lightbright: Yes.
[02:53] <owner_> can i get some help?
[02:53] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: Evolution is okay, too.
[02:53] <lightbright> is thunderboird more secure than evolution?
[02:53] <HymnToLife> phishing... I always wonder how anyone can be dumb enough to fall into it
[02:53] <cafuego> toya_: gdesklets have something of the sort
[02:53] <Shadyman> lightbright: Probably.
[02:53] <paulproteus|lapt> lightbright: But always be careful about phishing.
[02:53] <Shadyman> owner_: Hi.
[02:53] <owner_> can someone tell me how to get KDE for linux?
[02:53] <pashaw> lightbright,   your too paranoid     if the email looks fishy  just close it
[02:53] <toya_> sproingie, why is ppl keep saying that, why don't they say then ____ is for you
[02:53] <Shadyman> pashaw: Heh.. phishy
[02:53] <HymnToLife> owner_ > sudo apt-get install kubuntu_desktop
[02:53] <paulproteus|lapt> owner_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <pashaw> Shadyman,  :P
[02:54] <Vaske_Car> I can not install Ubuntu, I got this error: [42014671.933000]  <0>KERNEL PANIC-Not syncing: ATTEMPTED TO KILL INIT! What does this mean?
[02:54] <lightbright> paulproteus|lapt: is thunderbird more secure than evolution?
[02:54] <funkyHat> HymnToLife, some phishing attempts I've recieved have been VERY convincing)
[02:54] <owner_> sudo?
[02:54] <owner_> i'm kinda of new to ubuntu =p
[02:54] <sproingie> lightbright: there are very occasional exploitable vulnerabilities in gecko that thunderbird could run afoul of, but if you keep javascript turned off, you're unlikely to see one
[02:54] <sproingie> tho there was the libpng thing a while back
[02:54] <owner_> started today
[02:54] <HymnToLife> owner_ > then read the links ubotu will give you
[02:54] <HymnToLife> !kdr
[02:54] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Syntax error in line 1
[02:54] <HymnToLife> !kde
[02:54] <ubotu> I heard kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:54] <owner_> ok
[02:55] <owner_> also
[02:55] <sproingie> lightstar: virus writers are going after the easy target, and that's windows.  linux is about as virus free as you can imagine
[02:55] <lightbright> sproingie: how do i turn javascript off?
[02:55] <sproingie> lightbright: it's off by default.
[02:55] <owner_> I'm trying to get window programs to work in Linux.. can anyone help me with that also?
[02:55] <Shadyman> !bork
[02:55] <ubotu> Shadyman: No idea
[02:55] <lightbright> sproingie: and in evolution too?  tits off?
[02:55] <HymnToLife> !wine
[02:56] <sproingie> lightbright: i don't even know whether evo has an option to turn it on
[02:56] <Shadyman> owner_: Get "wine"
[02:56] <HymnToLife> !wine
[02:56] <owner_> i tried
[02:56] <owner_> to get it
[02:56] <owner_> but didn't work.. X_x
[02:56] <HymnToLife> there might be a Howto somewhere
[02:56] <pashaw> from memory, wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.
[02:56] <bobbyd> how do I swap which dektop is loaded when I type startx? I want to start xubuntu-desktop...
[02:56] <Shadyman> !enter
[02:56] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:56] <ilba7r> owner wine need some tweeking try crossover office easier to install stuff on but you will pay for the service
[02:56] <lightbright> sproingie: ok thanks
[02:56] <HymnToLife>  somebody said wine was a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.
[02:57] <Shadyman> oh wow.
[02:57] <mcjerry> ssppshhh ssspppphhh
[02:58] <owner_> also
[02:58] <owner_> how can I run .BIN?
[02:58] <toya_> ./ filename.bin
[02:58] <sproingie> owner_: chmod +x whatever.bin; ./whatever.bin
[02:58] <owner_> ./filename.bin?
[02:58] <toya_> assuming you're in the same folder as the file
[02:59] <HymnToLife> owner_ > yes, no space after the /
[02:59] <toya_> oh, my bad
[02:59] <owner_> so if i want to run windows Media player
[02:59] <owner_> for linux
[02:59] <owner_> it would be
[02:59] <starpause> i'm @ the terminal and want to launch and executable, but return to the terminal and keep using it rather than locking it up ... i can't remember what that is called or how to do it =\
[02:59] <Shadyman> !enter
[02:59] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:59] <toya_> anyone wanna help me setting up my printer? its an hp1200
[03:00] <HymnToLife> !printer
[03:00] <ubotu> printer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:00] <aidehua> owner_: I think the "enter" advice is directed at you, BTW :)
[03:00] <pashaw> owner_,   stop using multiple lines  or your going to get ignored
[03:00] <trae> heh
[03:00] <sproingie> starpause: stick a & after the command
[03:00] <sproingie> starpause: i.e. somecommand &
[03:00] <owner_> =P
[03:00] <trae> trying to get my SWIII ROTS video playing under Breezy
[03:00] <owner_> I don't under sntad it.. =[
[03:00] <starpause> sproingie,  thanks man =) i knew it was something like that!
[03:00] <owner_> *understand
[03:01] <owner_> if i wanted to run windowsmediainstaller.bin it would be /windowsmediainstaller.bin in the terminal?
[03:01] <funkyHat> Windows Media Player for linux?
[03:02] <HymnToLife> owner_ > don't forget the dot
[03:02] <toya_> HymnToLife, its supported, but the problem is not auto detected
[03:02] <Shadyman> owner_: ./windowsmediainstaller.bin
[03:02] <HymnToLife> ./filename.bin
[03:02] <ilba7r> owner if i were you i would look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:02] <HymnToLife> toya_ > there must be a howto somewhere
[03:03] <GoRoDeK> hi all, i have a slight problem installing vlc (videolan client) on drapper (libdbus-1-1 dependencies). anyone knows any workaround?
[03:04] <trae> I can get mplayer to play it.  I can't get mplayer to play full screen.  I can get totem and gxine to play the intro screen and titles full-screen, but I can't get them to play the actual movie.
[03:04] <trae> fun fun fun
[03:04] <randabis> i'm updating my psp
[03:04] <toya_> hmm found it
[03:06] <owner_> ./windowsmediainstaller.bin no such file or directory?
[03:07] <papo> ALGUNA DE MAIPU
[03:08] <Shadyman> speaka engrish?
[03:08] <Shadyman> er
[03:08] <owner_> ./windowsMediainstaller.bin dont work.. no file found
[03:08] <Shadyman> papo: speak english please?
[03:08] <Shadyman> owner_: Are you in the directory that it's in?
[03:08] <papo> DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH
[03:09] <owner_> its in my desktop
[03:09] <Shadyman> owner_: cd ~/Desktop
[03:09] <pashaw> papo,   spanish?
[03:09] <Shadyman> papo: Espan~ol?
[03:09] <owner_> cd ~/desktop ./windowsmediainstaller.bin
[03:09] <Shadyman> or not.
[03:10] <pashaw> Shadyman, why you scare him away
[03:10] <Shadyman> owner_: put an enter between the desktop and the ./
[03:10] <owner_> like that Shady?
[03:10] <Shadyman> owner_: Or a ;
[03:10] <pashaw> owner_,   why are you installing that?
[03:10] <Shadyman> owner_: and Desktop is capital D.
[03:10] <ilba7r> !es
[03:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:10] <owner_> cd ~/Desktop:./windowsmediainstaller.bin?
[03:10] <Shadyman> pashaw: I never bothered to ask.
[03:11] <Shadyman> cd ~/Desktop; ./windowswhatever.bin
[03:11] <Shadyman> and.. owner_: There are numerous, just-as-good linux apps that Aren't spyware, just so you know.
[03:12] <funkyHat> Is there actually a bin for installing Windows Media Player on linux?
[03:12] <cyphase> can someone point me to a good utility/tutorial for making debs
[03:12] <cyphase> funkyHat, *Window* Media Player
[03:12] <cyphase> :)
[03:12] <Shadyman> funkyHat: I sure hope not.
[03:12] <cyphase> Windows*
[03:13] <funkyHat> cyphase, what do you want it for? if it's for personal stuff, you probably want checkinstall
[03:13] <owner_> yea there is
[03:13] <owner_> I found one on the mediaplayer site =P
[03:13] <funkyHat> again
[03:13] <cyphase> funkyHat, i want to make a deb i can distribute
[03:13] <funkyHat> owner_, can you link us to the site you got it from?
[03:13] <Wilf> does breezy have an inbuilt firewall?
[03:13] <Shadyman> wilf: No.
[03:14] <cyphase> Wilf, Firestarter is good
[03:14] <owner_> I'm new to linux, so I don't really know many programs for linux, so I check windows media player
[03:14] <ULffuntu> wilf: webmin firewall
[03:14] <ardchoille> I will have $500 on the first of Januray that is pure pocket cash. me thinks me wants to build a new box :)
[03:14] <ardchoille> I'd love to build something that can easily play Half Life or Far Cry. What kind of specs do I need?
[03:14] <WebLOCH> ardchoille, get a Pentium D 830
[03:14] <funkyHat> Wilf, as standard, ubuntu (and most linuxes) have secure networking rules, if everything works, you probably don't need to change a thing
[03:14] <Shadyman> ardchoille: For Half life? Pentium 200mhz.
[03:14] <owner_> owner@owner:~$ cd ~/Desktop; ./windowsmediainstaller.bin = didnt work
[03:15] <MasterTsunami> 200 mhz lol :|
[03:15] <Shadyman> owner: Keep in mind that linux is CaSe SenSiTiVe.
[03:15] <b_e_n_z> ardchoille, i heard farcry runs great on a 600MHz pentium i.e. xbox
[03:15] <ardchoille> P 200Mhz ?
[03:15] <Shadyman> ardchoille: For halflife, yes, that was the requirement.
[03:15] <cyphase> Can someone point me to a good utility/tutorial for making .deb's
[03:15] <owner_> ooh..
[03:15] <Shadyman> !deb
[03:15] <pashaw> ardchoille,  $500   hope you have something good to use as a base half of that 500 will have to be video card
[03:15] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:15] <WebLOCH> b_e_n_z, everything runs great on an xbox, its insane how well dedicated architecture works
[03:15] <MasterTsunami> ardchoille, http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/
[03:15] <owner_> to use to windows
[03:15] <Wilf> my Pentium II 350 with 512mb of ram runs windows xp pro great.
[03:15] <ardchoille> pashaw: yes, that's what I was afraid of
[03:15] <MasterTsunami> there yo ugo, a $500 decent gaming rig :|
[03:15] <Shadyman> WebLOCH: I'm so linuxing my xbox.
[03:15] <ilba7r> cyphase there are several on the wiki and the forums
[03:16] <funkyHat> owner_, also bear in mind that you can use the TAB key to autocomplete filenames if you enter the first couple of characters
[03:16] <pashaw> ardchoille,   far cry is no joke  it eats video cards
[03:16] <WebLOCH> Shadyman, its really easy, im a bit of an xbox don.
[03:16] <cyphase> Shadyman, i know how to *install* deb's. i need to know how to *make* them
[03:16] <cyphase> ilba7r, thanx
[03:16] <GTroy> anyone have any problems with xmms/beep's sound being less than superb after a while?
[03:16] <ilba7r> cyphase welcomed
[03:16] <owner_> it says "permission denied"
[03:16] <MarcN> cyphase: debian.org's developers section has good authoritative info.
[03:16] <WebLOCH> GTroy, you need to be much more specific
[03:17] <GTroy> female vocals now sound like crap
[03:17] <cyphase> MarcN, thanx
[03:17] <GTroy> but amorok sounds fine
[03:17] <WebLOCH> crackly?
[03:17] <GTroy> yeah
[03:17] <ardchoille> pashaw: thanks for the heads-up
[03:17] <owner_> ShadyMan:> It says "Permission Denied"
[03:17] <funkyHat> GTroy, no
[03:17] <funkyHat> lol
[03:17] <Shadyman> owner_: Great :)
[03:17] <Wilf> hehe this reminds me of a prodigy song.
[03:17] <Wilf> i'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter
[03:17] <Shadyman> owner_: Maybe it means ditch windows and get something else? ;)
[03:17] <WebLOCH> GTroy, check the pre-amp and equalisers and the master volume, its probably one of them set too high
[03:17] <GTroy> I thought it was my amp at first
[03:18] <GTroy> ah ok
[03:18] <owner_> =P
[03:18] <owner_> alright..
[03:18] <pashaw> ardchoille,   do you already have a 2.4G+ cpu?
[03:18] <SirGrok> Hello peoples.
[03:18] <Shadyman> owner_: It means you have to sudo
[03:18] <owner_> you know any other Shadyman?
[03:18] <Corrupter> i have a bad file on my desktop that won't delete
[03:18] <owner_> sudo? what is that?
[03:18] <Shadyman> owner_: that gives you root power.
[03:18] <SirGrok> Hello peoples.Super user Do
[03:18] <poningru> !font
[03:18] <ubotu> poningru: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:18] <owner_> how can I "Sudo"?
[03:18] <happy_man> hey is there anyway to install themes on ubuntu ?
[03:18] <poningru> !fonts
[03:18] <ubotu> fonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:18] <ardchoille> pashaw: no
[03:18] <poningru> !font is <reply> see !fonts
[03:18] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[03:18] <MasterTsunami> ardchoille, go read the link, and do some shopping.  you can get a 6600 for ~$100 that will tear through far cry at its highest settings :/
[03:19] <funkyHat> owner_, you might like to try some alternatives: beep media player, rhythmbox, amaroK, juK, banshee all have nice interfaces
[03:19] <Shadyman> owner_: sudo ./home/whateveryourloginnameis/Desktop/windowswhatever.bin
[03:19] <Wilf> ubotu, like, totally don't go there girlfriend
[03:19] <ubotu> Wilf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:19] <funkyHat> Shadyman, er... that path won't work
[03:19] <pashaw> ardchoille,   far cry youd want something around that minimum
[03:19] <ardchoille> MasterTsunami: thanks
[03:19] <Shadyman> funkyHat: Yeah, i know
[03:19] <ULffuntu> hey whazzup sirgroik
[03:19] <Shadyman> funkyHat: It's close, though. Maybe.
[03:19] <mcjerry> Wilf: how 's i goin dude?
[03:19] <SirGrok> ...I am trying to write to a SATA sick on my machine, and it is giving me all sorts of trouble. I can write to all of my other mounted drives, and they are all set up the same in fstab, but I just can't write to the SATA one (I have been able to before... I don't think that I changed anything though, which is the funniest part)
[03:19] <SirGrok> disk**
[03:19] <owner_> how do I sudo?
[03:19] <MasterTsunami> lol
[03:20] <SirGrok> owner_, typ[e sudo thenh your command.
[03:20] <MasterTsunami> it's good though :/
[03:20] <pashaw> happy_man,   http://www.gnome-look.org/
[03:20] <SirGrok> owner_, check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:20] <Shadyman> funkyHat: I just use a sudo terminal :P
[03:20] <ardchoille> yeah
[03:20] <Wilf> hey mcjerry, i'm good, you?
[03:20] <MasterTsunami> you could run HL2 also and some other new games
[03:20] <poningru> owner_: type in 'sudo <command>'
[03:20] <Shadyman> !sudo
[03:20] <ardchoille> yeah, gotta have HL2
[03:20] <poningru> with <command> portion being what your command is
[03:20] <poningru> !sudo
[03:20] <mcjerry> Wilf: was trying to get my dvi camcorder and wintv-pvr-150 card going today
[03:20] <poningru> +!sudo
[03:20] <funkyHat> Shadyman, lol, sudo ~/Desktop/blah or sudo ./Desktop/blah would both work :P
[03:21] <SirGrok> owner_, like "sudo fdisk -l" will list your partitinos on your machine
[03:21] <Wilf> mcjerry, how'd it go?
[03:21] <HymnToLife> !javadebs
[03:21] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:21] <funkyHat> Shadyman, oo... I do occasionally, usually stick with sudo command though
[03:21] <mcjerry> did ok with the camcorder but ended up restoring backup image after fooling with ivtv modules
[03:21] <Shadyman> funkyHat: woudln't sudo make ~ look in root's "home"?
[03:21] <owner_> syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[03:21] <owner_> thats what it says
[03:21] <funkyHat> Shadyman, I'll just see
[03:21] <Shadyman> owner_: Get rid of the CD thing now.
[03:21] <funkyHat> :P
[03:21] <SirGrok> owner_, what is your command?
[03:21] <owner_> CD thing?
[03:21] <owner_> its
[03:22] <owner_> owner@owner:~/Desktop$
[03:22] <funkyHat> Shadyman, no :)
[03:22] <sethk> Shadyman, make does not take a directory name as a target
[03:22] <Shadyman> funkyHat: I fail :)
[03:22] <Shadyman> sethk: Make?
[03:22] <sethk> Shadyman, there is an argument for that, but it isn't what you want to do
[03:22] <Shadyman> sethk: I must have missed something.
[03:22] <SirGrok> ...I am trying to write to a SATA sick on my machine, and it is giving me all sorts of trouble. I can write to all of my other mounted drives, and they are all set up the same in fstab, but I just can't write to the SATA one (I have been able to before... I don't think that I changed anything though, which is the funniest part)
[03:23] <funkyHat> sethk, I don't think that's what Shadyman meant lol
[03:23] <sethk> Shadyman, maybe not, but it _is_ what he said.  :)
[03:23] <owner_>  syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[03:23] <funkyHat> sethk, make was 'cause' rather than the program make ;)
[03:23] <owner_> i tried agian and thats what happend
[03:23] <Shadyman> what are you typing?
[03:24] <owner_>  sudo <command>
[03:24] <oldguy> SirGrok: my usb stick decided to become read only too if thtat is whata yu mean
[03:24] <funkyHat> Oh dear
[03:24] <Shadyman> ...
[03:24] <sethk> funkyHat, oh, he thinks sudo will pick up roots environment
[03:24] <funkyHat> sethk, ya
[03:24] <pashaw> sethk,  yes   he used ~ as seperator
[03:24] <funkyHat> Shadyman, sudo is more like su rather than su -
[03:25] <Aesop> Hey
[03:25] <SirGrok> That is what I mean. Sorry... I accidently connected.
[03:25] <funkyHat> pashaw, no, he used ~ to represent home dir
[03:25] <SirGrok> What did you do to make it writeable?!
[03:25] <Aesop> Anyone know how to make GNome not treat alt-click as a drag command?
[03:25] <SirGrok> This is crazy....
[03:25] <owner_> i'm new to linux, I started today.. Sorry if I don't know alot.. =P
[03:25] <Shadyman> funkyHat: All i said was as Sudo, ~ wouldn't be your user's home, it'd be root's home.
[03:25] <funkyHat> Aesop, system > preferences > window
[03:25] <SirGrok> owner, what are you trying to do with that command?
[03:25] <Aesop> Thank yeh
[03:25] <Shadyman> funkyHat: If i'm wrong, then ok :)
[03:26] <data_grrr> Hi, I need help here. Can i re-write a DVD with default Ubuntu 5.10 br. ?
[03:26] <owner_> so if I need to see the root, I type: sudo <root>?
[03:26] <funkyHat> Shadyman, ya, I know :D Noone else does though, It's not you that's wrong anymore :D
[03:26] <HymnToLife> I'm off to bed
[03:26] <HymnToLife> good night people :)
[03:26] <pashaw> owner_,   maybe you should look around more before  running MS apps you could just use those in windows instead
[03:26] <Shadyman> funkyHat: Oh, ok :)
[03:26] <lemur> if you need to see the root, try "sudo whoami"
[03:26] <SirGrok> owner, type sudo whoami
[03:26] <SirGrok> owner_,  then type just whoami
[03:26] <SirGrok> Get it?
[03:27] <pashaw> SirGrok,   hes trying to install windowsmediaplayer
[03:27] <owner_> not anymore
[03:27] <dodgyville> Hello
[03:27] <sethk> Shadyman, even if root's environment were picked up, that still wouldn't work, because ~ is replaced by the shell before invoking a program.  If sudo starts a program, that program won't understand ~ (unless it happens to be a shell script)
[03:27] <pashaw> owner_,   good for you
[03:27] <dodgyville> Anyone got an easy way to get nvidia tv-out working in 5.10 ?
[03:27] <SirGrok> pashaw,  I seeeee.... to connect his iPod to his computer?
[03:27] <poningru> dodgyville: just restart with the cable plugged in
[03:27] <pashaw> SirGrok,   no  only movie program he knew  he's new is all
[03:28] <Aesop> Darn, funy!hat, that didn't help.
[03:28] <Aesop> I'm trying to play a game that uses ALT-CLick to focus your view
[03:28] <owner_> How do make wine work then?
[03:28] <Aesop> And while it's not just moving the window now, ALt-click does nothing
[03:28] <SirGrok> pashaw, Oh. i thought that you were being sarcastic. Sorry owner_ .
[03:28] <dodgyville> poningru: Thanks
[03:28] <ilba7r> owner have you tried opening the application menu> media players> to see if any would open your files
[03:28] <pashaw> SirGrok,   normally yes
[03:28] <SirGrok> owner_, Linux has a lot of replacment programs for ones that you are used to... They all do the same thing if not more than the Windows variants.
[03:29] <owner_> ok thanks SirGrok
[03:29] <SirGrok> owner_, check out h ttp://ubuntuguide.com download the codec packs, and then check out xine or moplayer.... I use xine.
[03:30] <pashaw> owner_,   read the wiki also  lots of cool stuff to tweak your system with   youll learn alot also
[03:30] <SirGrok> owner_, you need codecs to decode certain video files.... it is like a map for how to read things. Once you get those, you should be home sweet home.
[03:30] <pashaw> !wiki
[03:30] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[03:30] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[03:30] <SirGrok> Then grab xine
[03:30] <chill> yo
[03:30] <funkyHat> Aesop, damn... you could have a look through Applications > system tools > configuration editor > (apps > metacity)
[03:30] <Madpilot> SirGrok: see ubotu on the ubuntuguide, and please don't recommend it...
[03:30] <Aesop> Metacity?
[03:30] <Aesop> Ok
[03:31] <happy_man> 32841-Metaplastik.tar.gz: 32841-Metaplastik.tar.gz: cannot execute binary file
[03:31] <happy_man>  < what is that>
[03:31] <Aesop> funkyHat: In case it helps, I'm running Second Life through Cedega (Actually, WIneX 3.3.2-1)
[03:31] <SirGrok> Madpilot, I didn't know that there was an official guide.. I would have pointed there... sorry.
[03:31] <funkyHat> Aesop, can confuse people I know ;), metacity's job as the window manager includes global keybindings
[03:31] <poningru> happy_man: what are you trying to do?
[03:31] <MarcN> happy_man:  tar zxvf 32*.tar.gz to unpack the file
[03:31] <pashaw> owner_,    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:31] <happy_man> trying to install a theme
[03:31] <MarcN> happy_man: a tar.gz file is sort of like a zip file.
[03:31] <Aesop> I'm willing to bet that its Cedegas fault
[03:31] <Madpilot> owner_: have a look here for replacement apps in Linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:31] <poningru> happy_man: just right click on it
[03:31] <poningru> and extract
[03:32] <funkyHat> Aesop, yeah, it could well be that Cedega isn't handling the keyboard properly
[03:32] <owner_> SirGrok, it was ubuntuguide.org not .com =P
[03:32] <uber_spaced> what's the name of the kernel devel package?
[03:32] <happy_man> Then how do I apply a theme
[03:32] <SirGrok> Can anyone help me with my problem? My SATA drive decided to make itself read only all of a sudden. It is configured just like all of my other drives, but I can't write to the thing.
[03:32] <Aesop> funkyHat: Ja, especially since it ignores the keypad. >_<
[03:32] <uber_spaced> if I wanted to compile ze kernel?
[03:32] <Stormx2> In the installer, can it resize NTFS partitions?
[03:33] <SirGrok> owner_, doesn't matter anywho, I pointed you to the totally wrong place... try http://help.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <funkyHat> Aesop, tried numlock? ;) heh heh
[03:33] <apokryphos> Stormx2: so it claims
[03:33] <Aesop> funkyHat: Yeh
[03:33] <funkyHat> sorry, lol
[03:33] <Aesop> Tried cycling it as well
[03:33] <Stormx2> apokryphos: That a yes or a no >.<
[03:33] <dodgyville> Hello
[03:33] <apokryphos> Stormx2: I haven't ever tried it; meant to be able to, yes.
[03:33] <dodgyville> I restarted, but there's no tv-out option in totem.
[03:34] <dodgyville> (it's still grayed)
[03:34] <benplaut> my grandma's computer is behind a DSL router. the ip adress the computer reports is 192.168.xx, but the ip reported from online sites is 77.19.xx... when i'm on the same network, i can FreeNX into her machine using the 192 address. how would i connect once i'm back in hawaii? i'm assuming i need some sort of port forwarding, but i have no clue. (both amchines are running ubuntu)
[03:34] <funkyHat> Stormx2, I found that breezy's version of the nfts libraries wouldn't do what I wanted, but knoppix 3.9 has a slightly newer version and managed to resize a couple of NTFS partitions just fine
[03:34] <Shadyman> benplaut: You'd need to use 77.19.xx.xx
[03:34] <paulproteus|lapt> benplaut: You have to configure the DSL router.
[03:34] <Shadyman> benplaut: And you'd need some kinda port forwarding, yeah.
[03:34] <paulproteus|lapt> For FreeNX, set port 22 to go to your computer.
[03:34] <Madpilot> benplaut: you'll need to use port forwarding on her router
[03:35] <paulproteus|lapt> I mean, to her computer.
[03:35] <Stormx2> funkyHat: nevermind. I'll just give this guy partition magic lol
[03:35] <MarcN> paulproteus|lapt: port 22 is the ssh port.
[03:35] <poningru> !tell happy_man about theme
[03:35] <poningru> !themes
[03:35] <paulproteus|lapt> MarcN: I know.  FreeNX is tunneled over SSH by default.
[03:35] <poningru> !tell happy_man about themes
[03:35] <funkyHat> Stormx2, aww... and pass up the opportunity to introduce them to another great open source tool?
[03:35] <WebLOCH> send me an angel.
[03:35] <MarcN> paulproteus|lapt: ah.
[03:35] <paulproteus|lapt> MarcN: This is the kind of thing you would want to test.
[03:35] <Wilf> what command do i type into terminal to find my kernal version?
[03:35] <Phandy> hey, I heard I can get technical support about ubuntu here?
[03:35] <ions|T22> I just installed Hoary on this thinkpad and I can't get any FF extensions to install
[03:35] <paulproteus|lapt> Phandy: That's right.
[03:35] <MarcN> Wilf: uname -a
[03:35] <Stormx2> funkyHat: like what? ;-)
[03:35] <ions|T22> it's a fresh install
[03:36] <paulproteus|lapt> ions|T22: Install Breezy first.
[03:36] <Wilf> thanks MarcN
[03:36] <data_grrr> can i re-write DVD on Ubuntu,  Anybody knows? only with its DVD tools?
[03:36] <Phandy> Paulproteus: can I just ask a question?
[03:36] <uber_spaced> What is the name of the apt package that installs the kernel source files?
[03:36] <happy_man> ty poningru
[03:36] <ions|T22> I hate Breezy
[03:36] <poningru> happy_man: yep
[03:36] <slide> It hates you!
[03:36] <ions|T22> runs very very very poorly on my workstation
[03:36] <ions|T22> it sure does
[03:36] <slide> hehe
[03:36] <funkyHat> Stormx2.... knoppix..... :P
[03:36] <ions|T22> Hoary and I get along though
[03:36] <poningru> ions|T22: what does it say?
[03:36] <paulproteus|lapt> MarcN:  *Easiest* would be if instead you connected her computer directly to the Internet rather than using the router.
[03:36] <poningru> ions|T22: any errors I mean
[03:36] <poningru> ions|T22: also what version of firefox do you run?
[03:37] <ions|T22> I click install then it just sits at the little extensions window
[03:37] <ions|T22> 1.07
[03:37] <MarcN> paulproteus|lapt: wrong person.  routers with port forwarding is probably what anyone wants.
[03:37] <poningru> ions|T22: what xpi are you trying to install?
[03:37] <ions|T22> Hoary with default sources.list
[03:37] <ions|T22> adblock
[03:37] <poningru> yeah but which version?
[03:37] <paulproteus|lapt> benplaut:  *Easiest* would be if instead you connected her computer directly to the Internet rather than using the router.
[03:37] <ions|T22> oh one sec
[03:37] <poningru> cause adblock the latest one is only installable for 1.5
[03:37] <poningru> firefox 1.5
[03:38] <ions|T22> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=10&application=firefox that one
[03:38] <Shadyman> Hey guys? I've got gnome set up with next, previous, play, pause buttons, etc, how do i get them to work with Rhythmbox?
[03:38] <uber_spaced> should I use the kernel-tree or the kernel-source?
[03:38] <ions|T22> it says Requires: Firefox: 0.7 - 1.6a1
[03:39] <Stormx2> funkyHat: Whats easier, sending him a smallish pirated tool to get it done so he can get on ubuntu faster, or making him download, burn, and boot up knoppix
[03:39] <Stormx2> funkyHat: I rest my case ^_^
[03:39] <ions|T22> but other extensions fail too
[03:39] <Madpilot> Shadyman: if you mean keyboard buttons, shouldn't Rythymbox pick up gnome's keymapping?
[03:39] <ions|T22> like noscript
[03:39] <funkyHat> Stormx2, you win -_-
[03:39] <Shadyman> Madpilot: That's what i mean.
[03:39] <poningru> ions|T22: um I dont think addons lets you in if you have 1.0.7
[03:39] <funkyHat> :P
[03:39] <Phandy> hey, can anyone tell me if the i386 version of Ubuntu will work on my AMD athlon PC?
[03:39] <Stormx2> o.O
[03:39] <ions|T22> hmmm
[03:39] <ions|T22> poopy
[03:39] <ions|T22> ok
[03:39] <poningru> ions|T22: you sure you didnt change the user agent or something?
[03:39] <Shadyman> Phandy: Yes. i386 will work on most anything.
[03:39] <Stormx2> Phandy: Works on mine.
[03:39] <Madpilot> Phandy: yes, it will - you can upgrade to the K7 kernel after install if you want
[03:39] <ions|T22> nope
[03:40] <poningru> ions|T22: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=774
[03:40] <ions|T22> fresh install, I changed nothing
[03:40] <poningru> try installing from there
[03:40] <Phandy> ok, thanks
[03:40] <poningru> ions|T22: dont worry its trustworthy
[03:40] <Madpilot> Shadyman: I don't have a multimedia keyboard myself, but I'm surprised Rythymbox doesn't pick up the keys - check bugzilla.ubuntu.com?
[03:40] <ions|T22> I click the link and nothing happens
[03:41] <poningru> ions|T22: go to edit->pref
[03:41] <poningru> under contents
[03:41] <poningru> make sure you have allow extensions to be installed checked
[03:41] <dodgyville> When I run nvtv the output on the television has a weird scrambling effect (small lines everywhere), and the image on the monitor is completely scrambled.
[03:42] <poningru> dodgyville: you sure the cable is good?
[03:42] <poningru> dodgyville: that was the problem for me
[03:42] <rabbit1> in fstab, if I have defaults in the options list, and I also specify user, does user overwrite the nouser from defaults??
[03:42] <_jeff> hery guys
[03:42] <dodgyville> poningru: Good question. I think it's ok, because I can plug a video camera in no probs.
[03:43] <Shadyman> hey _jeff
[03:43] <_jeff> how do i uninstall ubuntu on my dual boot xp system?
[03:43] <_jeff> windows really needs the other hard drive
[03:43] <SirGrok> I am told, that my drive is read only, although when I run "mount" I get an output saying that it is "rw" (read/writeable" I didn't do anything to make it all  of a sudden do this, or so I think. "Sudo chown -R jeff /media/Music" won't even do it.
[03:44] <ilba7r> _jeff did you install grub on your MBR
[03:44] <funkyHat> _jeff, put your windows XP installer CD in, wait for it to get to the second prompt (the one after press any key to boot), reboot and take the CD out
[03:44] <rizo> alright i fixed my hibernate, now im working on suspend to memory. it works but after resuming everything is slow T_T
[03:44] <_jeff> MBR?
[03:44] <_jeff> funkyhat: what does that do?
[03:44] <MasterTsunami> should i enable universe and multiverse on dapper?
[03:44] <Shadyman> ooh dumb question again, what's the command for the system log?
[03:45] <rabbit1> in fstab, if I have defaults in the options list, and I also specify user, does user overwrite the nouser from defaults??
[03:45] <poningru> dodgyville: hmm ic
[03:45] <funkyHat> _jeff, it resets the boot section of your hard drive, making it boot windows
[03:46] <_jeff> funkyhat: just by putting in the cd it resets the boot sector permanently?
[03:46] <rabbit1> funkyHat: how could _jeff make the drive visible under windows to get it back?
[03:46] <funkyHat> _jeff, yes (not exactly permanent, you can use the ubuntu live CD or another linux live CD to restore grub)
[03:47] <_jeff> rabbit1: im just trying to get rid of grub so that i can remove ubuntu by repartitioning without messing up my boot
[03:47] <navarone> _jeff what happened?
[03:47] <poningru> _jeff: yeah it will get rid of your mbr
[03:47] <funkyHat> rabbit1, _jeff access the other drive from computer management console > disc management
[03:47] <poningru> err reset your mbr for win control
[03:47] <ions|T22> I added the site to be allowed to download software and still nothing
[03:47] <_jeff> funkyhat: ok thanks man, im gonna try that
[03:48] <_jeff> poningru: what MBR?
[03:48] <_jeff> poningru: what is MBR?
[03:48] <hangfire> master boot record
[03:48] <funkyHat> _jeff, master boot record
[03:48] <ilba7r> _jeff Master boot record
[03:48] <Beccara> i'm having some issues installing ubuntu server on a compaq dl580
[03:48] <Beccara> Debian install's fine and boots
[03:48] <navarone> _jeff the mbr tell the computer what os(s) resides on computer and where and what to boot
[03:49] <Beccara> but ubuntu loads grub and hangs saying /dev/ida/c0d0p1 is not found
[03:49] <dwhsix> (this may be offtopic) -- does it make sense that using Sound Juicer I would only get 4x when ripping CDs, when I read perf #s for my CD player of anywhere from 16x on up?
[03:50] <hangfire> well it cant find your ida device
[03:50] <Beccara> i figure that much, but i dont understand why since the installer find it and allows me to partition it
[03:50] <Viper550> Anyone use the ubuntu-art list?
[03:50] <chmod775> I folks how do I install the new firefox 1.5
[03:50] <chmod775> ?
[03:51] <Viper550> link in a sec...
[03:51] <funkyHat> dwhsix, it could be related to your DMA settings
[03:51] <hangfire> I had the same problem with FreeBSD, I dont know
[03:51] <funkyHat> I noticed they aren't set up optimally when ubuntu is installed...
[03:51] <Viper550> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283
[03:51] <Shadyman> !firefox15
[03:51] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[03:51] <Beccara> it just seems strange since debian works 100%
[03:51] <dwhsix> funkyHat:can you be more specific?  what should I look at?
[03:51] <Viper550> I tried that and it worked!
[03:52] <funkyHat> dwhsix, sorry, I can't, as I can't remember how to do the DMA stuff... can anyone help with this please?
[03:52] <Viper550> Trust me, on Linux, not everything is point and click...:)
[03:52] <sethk> Beccara, you have to load a driver, although I don't know the specific driver
[03:52] <dwhsix> (and right now on the current CD it's only getting 1.8x... hmm...)
[03:52] <funkyHat> enabling DMA for all devices that support it...
[03:52] <Stormx2> from windows xp, would it be possible to resize the NTFS partition?
[03:52] <Beccara> cqqarray, i know
[03:52] <ElitePete> anyone have the link for the list of windows programs and the linux equvilant?
[03:52] <hangfire> but how would you load a driver when you havent even installed the OS?
[03:52] <Beccara> the trouble is it hangs at boot, before modules.conf is even loaded
[03:53] <funkyHat> Stormx2, with partitionmagic, yes, otherwise not the system one... I don't know about others
[03:53] <Beccara> i'm guessing i would need to recompile the kerenl and have the driver not as a module
[03:53] <dwhsix> aha, let me try looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:53] <funkyHat> Beccara, sata hard drive right?
[03:54] <funkyHat> Beccara, sorry, not awake enough to find where your question started
[03:54] <Beccara> no
[03:54] <Viper550> Wanna know the funniest quote a Linux app has said to me?
[03:54] <Beccara> compaq scsi array in a DL580
[03:54] <Beccara> funkyHat, works fine in debain standard install
[03:54] <ElitePete> anyone have the link for the list of windows programs and the linux equvilant?
[03:55] <bobbyd> hi
[03:55] <Beccara> but seems that ubuntu dosnt have it compiled in
[03:55] <Viper550> Wondering what this quote is?
[03:55] <bobbyd> can anyone suggest a good webhost running linux?
[03:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ElitePete about equivalents
[03:55] <btdown> hostrocket.com has been good for me...
[03:55] <ElitePete> ty nalioth
[03:55] <data_grrr> How can i change the permissions of cdrom0 directory? to re-write a cd. i am very new.
[03:55] <ilba7r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:56] <Viper550> "Please define some command" -fbpanel
[03:56] <funkyHat> Beccara, have what compiled in?
[03:56] <Beccara> the cpqarray module
[03:57] <MarcN>  Beccara: ubuntu on a proliant?  Why?
[03:57] <Beccara> which i find strange for the server ubuntu installer but i've seen stranger things
[03:57] <funkyHat> ah
[03:57] <Beccara> mainly ubuntus redhat cluster packages
[03:57] <Beccara> and its general wider range of packages
[03:58] <funkyHat> than debian?
[03:58] <Beccara> yes
[03:58] <funkyHat> oh
[03:58] <Beccara> add in "universe" to the apt list and bang, precompiled redhat cluster suite packages
[03:58] <Viper550> Let's Linux
[03:58] <Beccara> including GFS support
[03:58] <Viper550> I meant Let's Linux Engrish!
[03:59] <funkyHat> Beccara, oki, I wasn't aware that ubuntu (even with the universe and multiverse repositories) had a bigger / wider selection than debian
[03:59] <funkyHat> :)
[03:59] <Beccara> well thats just personal view, it seems that whenever i need something ubuntu has it if debian dosnt
[03:59] <Viper550> Can we talk about this funny thing I saw on Fbpanel?
[04:00] <nalioth> Viper550: funny goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:00] <happy_man> who here plays anygame with punkbuster in it?
[04:00] <Beccara> i might just install the debian kernel berfore reboot and let that load, kernel dosnt matter since i  will be loading xen kernel as soon as it boots
[04:01] <hangfire> I do
[04:01] <happy_man> hangfire: can you  tell me how you got your punkbuster to work?
[04:01] <happy_man> hangfire: because it seems i only can enable the server side but not the client side
[04:01] <johnsie2k> how do you make a prgram run every time you start gnome?
[04:01] <ions|T22> well, I managed to install Warty instead of Hoary cause I'm a moron
[04:01] <ions|T22> that could be the source of my FF woes
[04:01] <hangfire> well in Battlefield 1942 you have to go into the multiplayer screen and activate the punkbuster button
[04:01] <poningru> chmod775: did you get your answer?
[04:02] <poningru> chmod775: regarding the firefox1.5
[04:02] <chmod775> no poningru
[04:02] <chmod775> ?
[04:02] <poningru> !tell chmod775 about firefox1.5
[04:02] <happy_man> hangfire: any special way you installed the game?
[04:02] <poningru> !theme
[04:02] <ubotu> Not a clue, poningru
[04:02] <happy_man> hangfire: because the only thing i did was copy the files from my cd and put them on my desktop, made a folder on my desktop by myself
[04:02] <johnsie2k> !tell johnsie2k about firefox 1.5
[04:02] <poningru> !theme is <reply> see !themes
[04:02] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[04:02] <johnsie2k> !tell johnsie2k about firefox1.5
[04:02] <hangfire> no, just remember to install punkbuster before the game install
[04:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johnsie2k about firefox15
[04:03] <happy_man> hangfire: install punkbuster before the game??
[04:03] <poningru> !tell johnsie2k about firefox1.5
[04:03] <hangfire> yes, you have to
[04:03] <johnsie2k> thanks :_)
[04:03] <sobersabre> hi. trying to make-kpkg. I forgot the flag that renames the standard kernel_image target into Ubuntu's linux-image ... ( something with 'stem' ) can somebody remind me ?
[04:03] <happy_man> hangfire: can you please guide me how
[04:03] <fevel> can anyone help me listen to radio on xmms?
[04:04] <sobersabre>  !tell sobersabre about firefox1.5
[04:04] <johnsie2k> Hmmmm will they ever release FF 1.5 as a deb?
[04:04] <johnsie2k> I'm lazy
[04:04] <hangfire> there is nothing to guide, if the game requires punkbuster, it will have a punkbuster install automatically before the game install
[04:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sobersabre about firefox15
[04:04] <inv_Arp> fevel: xmms support radio?
[04:04] <Stormx2> johnsie2k: xD it takes about 10 minutes to install without a deb
[04:04] <_jeff> hey guys
[04:04] <nalioth> johnsie2k: probably not until dapper
[04:04] <fevel> inv_Arp, i wish it did
[04:04] <fevel> inv_Arp, is there anyway to listen to radio on ubuntu??
[04:04] <_jeff> inv_arp: yeah xmms supports radio streams,
[04:04] <sobersabre> somebody better tell me about kernel make-kpkg question...
[04:04] <johnsie2k> but will it auto upgrade like deb if i do that?
[04:05] <coz> have root owned file on desktop copied from flash drive. I cannot delete it
[04:05] <_jeff> inv_arp: try stream tuner with xmms, its a pretty cool combination
[04:05] <inv_Arp> _jeff: think he means like from a radio card
[04:05] <fevel> _jeff, is it in the ubuntu repositories??
[04:05] <_jeff> inv_arp: lol ok
[04:05] <coz> have tried chown -R username /home/username/Desktop/filename
[04:05] <coz> nothing no such file or directory
[04:05] <sobersabre> another q: how well is nforce4 chipset supported under linux ? I have an amd64 machine and it shows many unknown devices in lspci for that chipset.
[04:05] <johnsie2k> yeah streamtuner is great
[04:05] <fevel> inv_Arp, no...from the net
[04:05] <fevel> i have no radio card
[04:05] <inv_Arp> oh streams
[04:06] <inv_Arp> just get the .pls file
[04:06] <_jeff> fevel: i think i saw something in 'Add Applications' about tuning into fm radio with ur radio card
[04:06] <fevel> i have no card
[04:06] <chmod775> thankx poningru
[04:06] <_jeff> fevel: are you talking about internet radio?
[04:06] <fevel> yes
[04:06] <fevel> in rindows I used winamp
[04:07] <inv_Arp> fevel:  just run the .pls file
[04:07] <_jeff> fevel: ok yeah, get streamtuner in 'Add Applications' and check it out
[04:07] <fevel> inv_Arp, where do I get those??
[04:07] <johnsie2k> You;re misisng the media library right?
[04:07] <coz> also get streamripper to record to the harddrive
[04:07] <inv_Arp> fevel: oh i use shoutcast  its right in their site
[04:07] <_jeff> fevel: it allows you to browse shoutcast radio stations and opens them in xmms
[04:07] <nalioth> fevel: when you're at shoutcast right click on the 'play now' button and 'save as'
[04:08] <johnsie2k> but streamtuner has all the shoutcast stations
[04:08] <_jeff> fevel: yeah you could go to the site too
[04:08] <slew> hi, i need to change the owner of an entire drive from root to me, how would i do this from the command line?
[04:08] <nalioth> slew: you will break your machine if you do that
[04:08] <_jeff> fevel: its just not built into xmms to browse streams
[04:08] <coz> chown -R username location
[04:08] <coz> I believe
[04:08] <centOGG> yeah
[04:08] <nalioth> coz: you will break a machine changing all the perms
[04:08] <Shadyman> Oh weird, my volume control buttons for Gnome control the master volume. It seems though that PCM volume doesn't go through Master though, so it doesnt do anything.
[04:09] <coz> I didn't ask the question
[04:09] <slew> ok, what if i wanted users and groups to have just r/w but no eXecute?
[04:09] <coz> just answered it
[04:09] <johnsie2k> Anyone know how to make a program start every time gnome starts?
[04:09] <coz> I think he wants to change the ownership of an external drive
[04:09] <nalioth> coz: so you are gonna give an answer that will render a machine unusable w/o a warning?
[04:09] <slew> right sorry external drive i ment to put
[04:09] <centOGG> slew: look for 'sessions' in the menubar
[04:10] <nalioth> coz: we have very new users to *nix here, don't assume anything
[04:10] <rabbit1> How do I setup fstab properly to mount an ntfs drive read only ??
[04:10] <poningru> johnsie2k: go to systems
[04:10] <coz> nalioth I believe he wants to change ownership of external drive
[04:10] <rabbit1> Specifically, what should my fstab entry be like?
[04:10] <poningru> johnsie2k: err systems->preferences->session
[04:10] <centOGG> i mean johnsie2k, sorry
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rabbit1 about ntfs
[04:10] <coz> ok
[04:10] <coz> nalioth perhaps you can help me
[04:10] <slew> could i put chown -R 766 slew /dev/hdd?
[04:10] <fevel> thanks for the help guys...never knew about shoutcast
[04:11] <coz> I have a root owned file on the dekstop copied from flash drive
[04:11] <fevel> that really got rid of winamp
[04:11] <coz> need to delet it but cannot get to it
[04:11] <johnsie2k> thanks
[04:11] <poningru> johnsie2k: take a look at the last tab
[04:11] <cafuego> slew: Probably not, if it's not a Linux filesystem.
[04:11] <johnsie2k> cheers pong :-)
[04:11] <poningru> coz: start a terminal
[04:12] <coz> already there
[04:12] <cafuego> slew: Check the uid, gid and umask options in 'man fstab'.
[04:12] <poningru> coz: type in cd ~/Desktop
[04:12] <poningru> now
[04:12] <coz> there
[04:12] <slew> ok
[04:12] <slew> cool
[04:12] <poningru> sudo rm -r name_of_file
[04:13] <poningru> coz: is it a file or a folder?
[04:13] <slew> if i need to change the params of an entire linux dir to just user and group gets r/w but no X how would i do that from the command line?
[04:13] <coz> folder
[04:13] <fevel> hey guys, im having trouble synching with ntpdate servers
[04:13] <nalioth> coz i've had users in here who HAVE changed all the file permissions to their users on their system (and then wonder why it doesnt work)
[04:13] <poningru> yeah it will take a care of it
[04:13] <fevel> can anyone give me a hand?'
[04:13] <coz> Ok noliath
[04:13] <nalioth> coz cd into the folder
[04:13] <johnsie2k> what with fevel?
[04:13] <poningru> fevel: a time thing?
[04:13] <coz> hold on
[04:14] <coz> no such file or directory
[04:14] <fevel> poningru, yes, my clock is not updated
[04:14] <nalioth> coz: then it must be gone.
[04:14] <johnsie2k> Hey does anyone know why my keyboard dies sometime when I select text and then hit backspace?
[04:14] <poningru> fevel: right click
[04:14] <cafuego> slew: rwX (that only preserves x on dirs, it doesn't add one)
[04:14] <coz> no it is definately there it  it has only root access
[04:14] <poningru> fevel: right click on the time
[04:14] <poningru> and adjust
[04:15] <fevel> poningru, but that would make me right click every season
[04:15] <poningru> enter in your password
[04:15] <fevel> im a very lazy person
[04:15] <coz> I can get into the folder to see its contents
[04:15] <poningru> fevel: no it would synchronize ever time
[04:15] <coz> I cannot erase the folder
[04:15] <silverblade> Who know what is Wine ?
[04:15] <navarone> fevel perhaps you chose the wronf os...<s>
[04:15] <coz> wine is emulator
[04:15] <johnsie2k> no it's not :-p
[04:16] <fevel> got the time synched...thanks again
[04:16] <sobersabre> silverblade: wine is 'WINdows Emulator'
[04:16] <poningru> ferrox: yep
[04:16] <silverblade> yes i know
[04:16] <sobersabre> silverblade: there is commercial product called 'crossover office' based on wine.
[04:16] <silverblade> but i dont know how get it
[04:17] <navarone> silverblade,  apt-get install wine ?
[04:17] <sobersabre> silverblade: wine you can install via the apt/synaptic whatever tool
[04:17] <poningru> !tell silverblade about wine
[04:17] <silverblade> ok...
[04:17] <poningru> silverblade: that should help you out a lot more
[04:17] <sobersabre> crossover office is a software you can buy. costs about 30$ ( I actually don't remember )
[04:17] <chmod775> poningru, I get a  chrome registration error after installing firefox 1.5
[04:17] <chmod775> ?
[04:18] <WebLOCH> sobersabre, I thought WINE stood for Wine Is Not a windows Emulator
[04:18] <slew> cafuego-> so at the end its chown -R slew rw /data?
[04:18] <poningru> chmod775: dont worry about it
[04:18] <chmod775> sobersabre, u can download the hacked version of crossover
[04:18] <chmod775> ?
[04:18] <poningru> chmod775: just restart
[04:18] <navarone> If you install wine are you immediately able to run windows program you have installed on windows partion...or must you first "install" progs thru wine in linux?
[04:18] <poningru> firefox
[04:18] <sobersabre> WebLOCH:  :)
[04:18] <chmod775> poningru, u mean restart the system
[04:18] <poningru> navarone: the latter
[04:18] <chmod775> or just firefox
[04:18] <sobersabre> chmod775: you can rape your relatives too
[04:18] <poningru> chmod775: no just firefox
[04:18] <chmod775> sobersabre, mind ur language ?
[04:19] <navarone> poningru, is wine compatible with all windows versions? I have win2k pro...
[04:19] <Stormx2> Friend is creating a 5gb FAT partition in partition magic for swapping data between ubuntu and windows. It asked him, primary or logical? he already has a 45gb NTFS partition on the disk.
[04:19] <Stormx2> Which should he select, primary or logical?
[04:19] <fevel> navarone, you must install the softs...i suggest cedega for games and crossover office for apps
[04:19] <navarone> logical
[04:19] <Stormx2> Your time starts.... nowwww
[04:19] <sethk> Stormx2, primary
[04:19] <chmod775> cool fixed
[04:19] <Stormx2> o.O
[04:19] <sobersabre> chmod775: mind yours
[04:19] <Stormx2> Im getting conflicing answers
[04:19] <sethk> Stormx2, don't use logical unless you are out of primaries
[04:19] <panana> heartB //
[04:19] <poningru> navarone: I think so but not sure
[04:19] <sethk> Stormx2, if you won't need to create additional partitions, then definitely primary
[04:20] <nalioth> chmod775: we don't advocate anything illegal in here
[04:20] <silverblade> navarone: can u give me a link for download WINE please
[04:20] <chmod775> I am sorry nalioth
[04:20] <nalioth> sobersabre: please be civil
[04:20] <Stormx2> sethk: He needs to add ubuntu partitions
[04:20] <navarone> silverblade, just go to termianl and type "apt-get install wine"
[04:20] <poningru> silverblade: take a look at the msg ubotu sent you
[04:20] <sobersabre> nalioth: I am only mamal :(
[04:20] <Stormx2> sethk: he's leaving 10gb unallocated for that
[04:20] <sethk> Stormx2, how many?
[04:20] <panana> where i should set PATH to environmenting java
[04:20] <Stormx2> sethk: 1 ext3 one swap.
[04:20] <sethk> Stormx2, if you are going to need more than four, total, then you will have to use logical.
[04:20] <sethk> Stormx2, but if you only need 4 or fewer, make them all primary
[04:21] <navarone> silver put a "sudo" in front of that
[04:21] <sobersabre> panana: depends on your system. is it a multi-user system with many versions of java ?
[04:21] <chmod775> I did'nt know this. But people could be a bit polite
[04:21] <chmod775> and decent
[04:22] <Phocion> hey all I got NDISWRAPPER to successfully install my wireless card driver.  "ifup wlan0" returns "No DHCPOFFERS received." error.  anyone know why????????????????
[04:22] <sobersabre> chmod775: I am sorry, I am not polite, it is true. but I am decent.
[04:22] <johnsie2k> Does anyone know why I get a weird delay when I start a program?
[04:22] <sethk> johnsie2k, without any more information than that?  Of course not
[04:22] <sobersabre> chmod775: I only meant this: both acts are related, and illegal.
[04:22] <panana> sobersabre : i have netbeans and eclipse work, but its so slowly
[04:23] <chmod775> Did I tell you that that u were not decent
[04:23] <chmod775> ?
[04:23] <chmod775> lol
[04:23] <sobersabre> panana: It has nothing to do with version of java.
[04:23] <sobersabre> panana: how many GB of memory do you have ?
[04:23] <johnsie2k> well I click the icon to start a program and it takes longer than expected to start up. It's kinda like it pauses during loading.  Anyone know why?
[04:23] <_jeff> i have a question guys, but its a little off channel topic
[04:23] <poningru> johnsie2k: the toothfairy did it
[04:23] <WebLOCH> Can anyone suggest a decent tool for formatting a USB pen drive?
[04:23] <sethk> sobersabre, that isn't exactly true, although the performance differences are small
[04:23] <panana> sobersabre : 128 :)
[04:23] <sethk> WebLOCH, you use the same tools as you use to format anything else
[04:23] <poningru> johnsie2k: sorry dude still too little info
[04:23] <ElitePete> question: i have a broken xbox, if i took the HD out could i use it on a mainstream PC ?
[04:23] <sobersabre> panana: this is far less than needed.
[04:24] <sethk> WebLOCH, there areno device specific tools
[04:24] <_jeff> i have an orange shirt, i want that orange shirt to be white. what can i do to make it white?
[04:24] <poningru> you would have to start up the program in a terminal
[04:24] <poningru> see if it gives some error msg or something
[04:24] <centOGG> bleach
[04:24] <sethk> _jeff, white out
[04:24] <panana> sobersabre : recomended ?
[04:24] <WebLOCH> seth_k I just did and i think I have killed the pendrive, so I want advice on what to use aside from Ubuntus defacto "Disk MAnager"
[04:24] <sobersabre> panana: 128 GB ?! this is enough!
[04:24] <WebLOCH> sethk I just did and i think I have killed the pendrive, so I want advice on what to use aside from Ubuntus defacto "Disk MAnager"
[04:24] <Stormx2> _jeff: Vomit?
[04:24] <_jeff> centogg: i have bleached it but its still a little orange
[04:24] <chmod775> poningru, how do I update firefox
[04:24] <sethk> WebLOCH, if you were going to format it, there is nothing to kill
[04:24] <_jeff> stormx2: what?
[04:24] <chmod775> it ;s greyed out help->check for updates
[04:24] <chmod775> ?
[04:24] <sethk> WebLOCH, depends on what type of file system you want on it
[04:24] <panana> sobersabre : RAM or HardDisk ?
[04:25] <centOGG> i dunno bleach it again?
[04:25] <_jeff> stormx2: no its an orange shirt that i want to be white, its not a riddle or anything
[04:25] <dodgyville> Hello
[04:25] <sobersabre> panana: It depends on: which windows manager you run, how much swap you have, how fast HD you have, and how many other programs run at the same time.
[04:25] <sethk> chmod775, probably you don't have privileges to install updates
[04:25] <sobersabre> panana: RAM.
[04:25] <ElitePete> question: i have a broken xbox, if i took the HD out could i use it on a mainstream PC ?
[04:25] <chmod775> ok
[04:25] <Stormx2> _jeff: OK
[04:25] <Stormx2> _jeff: Drink milk and vomit
[04:25] <sethk> ElitePete, sure.  it might or might not work, but you can use it.
[04:25] <sethk> ElitePete, odds are it is an ordinary ide drive
[04:25] <WebLOCH> sethk regardless of what you know to be true, the drive just died after trying to format it with ext3, so could you please advise on a suitable formatting application
[04:25] <sobersabre> ElitePete: if the hard disk is not broken...
[04:25] <Shadyman> ElitePete: Maybe not\
[04:25] <ElitePete> Ok it's definantly a broken xbox, i know it's the lens not the HD
[04:26] <sethk> WebLOCH, I format mine with ext3, as in:  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[04:26] <navarone> panana...more ram the better...since adding additional 256mb ram I have not touched swap
[04:26] <ElitePete> so im gonna crack it open
[04:26] <_jeff> centogg: so if i bleach it enough it will come out completely white?
[04:26] <Shadyman> ElitePete: You'd have to format it, because it uses microsoft's encrypted FAT-type
[04:26] <sethk> WebLOCH, but what I meant was, you didn't kill it, regardless of what you may think
[04:26] <ElitePete> Shadyman, that should be easy enough
[04:26] <sethk> WebLOCH, most likely if you remove it and reinsert it, it will automount
[04:26] <WebLOCH> sethk it worked before i started, now it has an unmountable fs
[04:26] <Shadyman> ElitePete: Yeah
[04:26] <WebLOCH> sethk i tried that
[04:26] <sobersabre> navarone: which desktop are you working with  ? gnome/kde/something else like ion3 ?
[04:26] <panana> sobersabre : my Swap 1.5 gb
[04:26] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, whats up with the xbox?
[04:26] <navarone> gnome sabre
[04:26] <sethk> WebLOCH, then you may have partitioned the entire device
[04:26] <Shadyman> !dapper
[04:26] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:26] <sobersabre> panana: and what is the size of your memory ?
[04:26] <sethk> WebLOCH, which is ok, but requires a slightly different mount statement
[04:27] <panana> sobersabre : 128 mb
[04:27] <sethk> WebLOCH, so, try, if it is sda,  mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /media/wherever
[04:27] <WebLOCH> sethk, any advice on how to reformat to fat32 ?
[04:27] <sobersabre> panana: this is bad.
[04:27] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, just a broken xbox i want to take the HD from
[04:27] <sethk> WebLOCH, if you want to be able to read it in windows you should partition it first with fdisk
[04:27] <sethk> WebLOCH, then use mkfs.vfat
[04:27] <chmod775> problem solved
[04:27] <sobersabre> for N mb of RAM you need about 2-2.5N mb of swap.
[04:27] <sethk> WebLOCH, so create one partition, and if it is sda, do  mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:27] <chmod775> Does anyone know how can I install jre for firefox
[04:27] <chmod775> ?
[04:28] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, by default xbox hard drives are locked, you will need to unlock it whilst it is in that xbox to use it externally
[04:28] <sobersabre> because disk is very slow comparing to memory.
[04:28] <Shadyman> !java
[04:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:28] <sobersabre> chmod775: you install java package. unrelated to ff
[04:28] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, AHH i cant just format it? because this xbox wont read cd's
[04:28] <WebLOCH> ElitePete fraid not
[04:28] <chmod775> k
[04:28] <Shadyman> sobersabre: You still have to tell FF about it, though.
[04:28] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, anyway to get a linux distro on this POS? remember it wont read cds
[04:28] <Shadyman> the wiki talks about how though
[04:28] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, you will need to unlock it, or at least obtain the key so that you can unlock it on a pc
[04:28] <ubuntuvm> can anyone help me? I've just installed ubuntu 'breezy badger' on a VMware VM and it all went smoothly but it didn't give me the option to set the root passwd. Now I can't access root at all.... Any help would be appreciated
[04:28] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, is it modded yet ?
[04:28] <benplaut> my grandma's computer is behind a DSL router. the ip adress the computer reports is 192.168.xx, but the ip reported from online sites is 77.19.xx... when i'm on the same network, i can FreeNX into her machine using the 192 address. how would i connect once i'm back in hawaii? i'm assuming i need some sort of port forwarding, but i have no clue. (both amchines are running ubuntu)
[04:29] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, no
[04:29] <Shadyman> ubuntuvm: There is no root.
[04:29] <Shadyman> !root
[04:29] <benplaut> sorry if someone answered before, i had to go
[04:29] <sobersabre> Shadyman: you don't tell it to FF specifically, you tell it to user's environment. so everybody know of it.
[04:29] <jbroome> !tell ubuntuvm about sudo
[04:29] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, you can do a memorycard softmod
[04:29] <ubuntuvm> i kno about sudo
[04:29] <panana> sobersabre : what's your language preference to developing linux in poor office like this
[04:29] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, will i need to use cd's at some point?
[04:29] <jbroome> !tell ubuntuvm aboutroot
[04:29] <sobersabre> Shadyman: there is root. sudo su -
[04:29] <ubuntuvm> so I just use sudo, no root access
[04:29] <cafuego> benplaut: Dammit!
[04:29] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, not if you have a usb stick/memory card handy
[04:29] <WebLOCH> sethk, mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdf1
[04:29] <jbroome> !tell ubuntuvm about root
[04:29] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i have a usb stick?
[04:29] <Shadyman> sobersabre: I know, but it is not a "login"
[04:30] <cafuego> sobersabre: 'sudo -i' is a lot less typing.
[04:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, how do i mod it ;-)
[04:30] <Shadyman> from the boot screen
[04:30] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, do you have an adapter to allow you to use it with the xbox ?
[04:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, no
[04:30] <benplaut> cafuego: ?
[04:30] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, then im afraid you still cant mod it
[04:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i want to get some use out of this badboy
[04:30] <ubuntuvm> ummmm.... why is this exaclty? (first time ubuntu user)
[04:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i wonder how i get a mem card..
[04:30] <WebLOCH> you will need an adapter or to use a replacement dvd drive temporarily
[04:30] <cafuego> ubuntuvm: Indeed. Your user account can run 'sudo -i' for a root shell or 'sudo <command>' to run anything as root.
[04:30] <nalioth> sobersabre: ubuntu doesnt ship with an active root account for a reason. please respect that reason when giving advice. (using a root account causes problems with ubuntu)
[04:30] <cafuego> !rootsudo
[04:30] <ubotu> somebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i have a dvd drive
[04:31] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, is it an xbox one?
[04:31] <sobersabre> panana: what do you mean ? native language or programming language ?
[04:31] <ubuntuvm> fair enuff... thanks for your help
[04:31] <cafuego> ubuntuvm: Read And Thou Shallst Learn
[04:31] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, no ;-)
[04:31] <ubuntuvm> no time... no time...
[04:31] <ubuntuvm> ;)
[04:31] <sethk> WebLOCH, if you really typed sdf1, then that's wrong
[04:31] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, then that is academic im afraid haha, unless its reflashable with an xdvds bios
[04:31] <sobersabre> nalioth: I've had no problems whatsoever... so I am talking only wth "MHO"
[04:31] <WebLOCH> sethk, thats what it was listed as when using it earlier
[04:31] <sethk> WebLOCH, did you run fdisk on it first?
[04:31] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, so what do i need to get to run Linux on this puppy/
[04:31] <cafuego> sobersabre: You don't have the same setup as everyone else.
[04:32] <sethk> WebLOCH, remember I told you that you had likely formatted the entire device instead of a partition
[04:32] <nalioth> sobersabre: MHO would make ubuntu devs shriek and run in insane circle. therefore i advise ubuntu methods in here
[04:32] <sethk> WebLOCH, to format the entire device, use /dev/sdf
[04:32] <WebLOCH> sethk   /dev/sdf1   *           1        1013     1021072+   6  FAT16
[04:32] <chmod775> there an mozilla-jre plugin in repositroty
[04:32] <panana> sobersabre : which one is the best
[04:32] <sobersabre> nalioth: which problems can arise ? ( me is curious mamal )
[04:32] <chmod775> I get an j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depends: gsfonts-x11 but it is not installable
[04:32] <sethk> WebLOCH, yes, that's before you erased it
[04:32] <WebLOCH> Sethk, no thats the output NOW
[04:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sobersabre about root
[04:32] <nalioth> sobersabre: read the wiki article
[04:32] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, so what do i need to get to run Linux on this puppy/
[04:32] <chmod775> which package should I install
[04:32] <sethk> WebLOCH, then it is formatted
[04:32] <chmod775> ?
[04:32] <navarone> fat16?
[04:32] <sethk> WebLOCH, so you can mount it
[04:32] <WebLOCH> sethk, then i did indeed kill it
[04:33] <chmod775> gsfonts-x11 does'nt exists
[04:33] <WebLOCH> sethk please advise, im lost
[04:33] <chmod775> ?
[04:33] <sethk> WebLOCH, formatting something is hardly killing it
[04:33] <sethk> WebLOCH, I thought you wanted to format it
[04:33] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, you will need a memcard adapter or to replace the drive temporarily
[04:33] <panana> sobersabre : usually i used vb6 on windows
[04:33] <Shadyman> !dappy
[04:33] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Shadyman
[04:33] <sobersabre> panana: which vehicle is the best ? bmw or volvo ? or ferrari ? or tractor ?
[04:33] <chmod775> !j2re
[04:33] <ubotu> chmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:33] <sethk> WebLOCH, did you use sudo when you did mkfs.vfat?
[04:33] <dodgyville> I have a zoran video capture card in my computer, but the driver doesn't seem to load
[04:33] <WebLOCH> sethk i do. however it appears I dont have a clue, so if you could takle me step by step
[04:33] <sobersabre> or combine ?
[04:33] <WebLOCH> sethk yes i used sudo
[04:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chmod775 about java
[04:33] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, hmm how do i get a memcard adaptor
[04:33] <navarone> sobersabre, depends on how it is to be used...<s>
[04:33] <sethk> WebLOCH, ok.  you want to read it in windows?  Is that why you want to use fat32?
[04:34] <Shadyman> !dapper
[04:34] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:34] <dwhsix> btw (back to an earlier topic), turning off CD auto-play in gnome seems to have been the trick to boosting ripping speed to an acceptable 5x... mentioned in a few places in forums
[04:34] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, you can buy one, or if you have a soldering iron you can make one
[04:34] <WebLOCH> sethk yeah id like to read it in windows aswell as linux
[04:34] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, buy, what website ?
[04:34] <panana> sobersabre : i see
[04:34] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, dunno for your area of the world, check out http://www.divineo.com
[04:34] <sobersabre> navarone: you mean you can do everything with any vehicle ?
[04:34] <sethk> WebLOCH, did you do this:    sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1    ?
[04:35] <panana> sobersabre :  (.) (.)
[04:35] <cafuego> !info gsfonts-x11
[04:35] <ubotu> gsfonts-x11: (Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.17ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[04:35] <panana> sobersabre :    ..
[04:35] <panana> sobersabre :    ---
[04:35] <WebLOCH> sethk yes
[04:35] <sobersabre> navarone: how do you carry 2 bars of wood  in the mud with a ferrari ?
[04:35] <WebLOCH> sethk should i re-attempt it?
[04:35] <navarone> sobersabre> no I mean that each vehicle is better at cetain things...even if it is possible. I can drive a combine to work...but it will annoy the other drivers and I'll invariably be late
[04:35] <sethk> WebLOCH, can you paste the error again?
[04:35] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, and what do i want from that website
[04:35] <sethk> WebLOCH, sure, try again and paste the error
[04:36] <sobersabre> but you can drive with a ferrari to the closes tractor owner and pay them :)
[04:36] <liquidten2> Ok.  To speed up cd rippint the most open up gconf "applications, system tools, configuration editor" and browse to APPS - Sound Juicer - Paranoia.  Set the paranoia level to 0 and the cd will rip much faster, but there will be less error detection and repair
[04:36] <johnsie2k> anyone know how to speed up the running of a program in gnome?
[04:36] <rabbit1> I'm trying to setup my fstab file to mount ext3, what's wrong here??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6224
[04:36] <navarone> sobersabre, If I had a ferrari I'd pay someone else to drive...<s>
[04:36] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, something that has an xbox controller connector at one end and a usb connector at the other, ill find you one if you give me a sec
[04:36] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok thanks
[04:36] <sobersabre> navarone: unneccessary.
[04:37] <sethk> rabbit1, why  0 2  ?
[04:37] <nalioth> WebLOCH: ElitePete can y'all discuss your xbox mechanics in #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[04:37] <WebLOCH> sethk it hasnt complained this time
[04:37] <rabbit1> sethk: the installer did it like that!
[04:37] <sobersabre> guys, I am trying to build a kernel. how can I create a .deb with the name linux-image ? ( make-kpkg creates a kernel-image package )
[04:37] <WebLOCH> nalioth, no probs buddy
[04:37] <navarone> sobersabre, yes...just like this topic...<s>
[04:37] <rabbit1> sethk: that just means it's in line for fsck or something doesn't it?
[04:37] <sethk> rabbit1,  it looks reasonable.  what error do you get?
[04:37] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, move you ass to offtop
[04:37] <rabbit1> sethk: I can't write to the partition
[04:37] <sethk> rabbit1, yes, but I've never seen 0 2
[04:37] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, done
[04:38] <paulproteus|lapt> GnarlyBob: Still having troubles with that ACPI computer?
[04:38] <sethk> rabbit1, even with sudo?
[04:38] <sobersabre> navarone: what does the topic says ?
[04:38] <rabbit1> sethk: with sudo I can, but not with my user
[04:38] <sobersabre> hm s/says/say/
[04:38] <navarone> sobersabre, I meant the driving topic...try to keep up
[04:38] <sethk> rabbit1, then you have to change the privileges on the directories and files
[04:38] <bulio> to install gnome themes, I go on gnome-look.org and download one?
[04:38] <rabbit1> sethk: the rw doesn't do it?
[04:38] <bulio> then run theme manager in ubuntu?
[04:39] <sethk> rabbit1, no, rw just says that it is writable by users that have the correct permissions
[04:39] <sobersabre> navarone: i am debuggins, compiling a kernel and scratching my a$$ and all this drained my concentration abilities.. sorry.
[04:39] <sethk> rabbit1, ro means nobody can write it
[04:39] <paulproteus|lapt> GnarlyBob: My advice is that you go to the BIOS and hit the "Set to Factory Default" switch.
[04:39] <paulproteus|lapt> GnarlyBob: That's what fixed the ACPI tables on th eother system.
[04:39] <sobersabre> navarone: forgot to mention: I am also chatting
[04:39] <sobersabre> :)
[04:39] <rabbit1> sethk:  I should use fmask and dmask?
[04:39] <navarone> lol
[04:40] <lennox`> can someone explain to me how to use a live cd?
[04:40] <bulio> do I?
[04:40] <sethk> rabbit1, not unless there is some reason you can't change the file permissions
[04:40] <sethk> lennox`, put it in the cd drive and boot it
[04:40] <rabbit1> sethk:  how do I change permissions?
[04:40] <Shadyman> lennox`: Put the cd in drive, and reboot.
[04:40] <sethk> rabbit1, chmod
[04:40] <lennox`> i did that
[04:40] <panana> sobersabre :   how many space of RAM used by JRE (precentage) ?
[04:40] <lennox`> but it still goes to lilo
[04:40] <navarone> lennox...you need bios to be set to boot cd first
[04:40] <rabbit1> sethk:  will I have to do that every time I reboot?
[04:40] <sethk> rabbit1, no, only once
[04:41] <benplaut> so... i enabled dynamic port forwarding on UPD and TCP port 8888 (i feel very smart saying that, even though i have no clue what it means). will this let FreeNX/ssh work?
[04:41] <Knowerrors> how do I check if dma is enabled? and how do I enable it?
[04:41] <danny> hello
[04:41] <sethk> benplaut, I can't imagine that it would
[04:41] <panana> sobersabre :  10% or less ?
[04:41] <lennox`> nava
[04:41] <benplaut> sethk: then what should i do? :(
[04:41] <lennox`> do i just set the cdrom as a bootable drive in bios?
[04:41] <sethk> benplaut, it's possible if freenx forces ssh to use 8888
[04:42] <lennox`> to allow it to use the live cd
[04:42] <lennox`> ?
[04:42] <Shadyman> lennox`: Yes.
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Knowerrors about dma
[04:42] <sethk> benplaut, no, I've never understood why anyone would want to use freenx, so I've never bothered to learn it
[04:42] <benplaut> sethk: i set it to specifically use 8888, in sshd config and freenx config
[04:42] <dwhsix> Knowerrors: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:42] <sethk> benplaut, ok, then I suppose, try it
[04:42] <benplaut> sethk: what woulod you recommend instead?
[04:42] <Knowerrors> reading it now, just asked ubotu over #in kubuntu
[04:42] <sethk> benplaut, to do what, exactly?
[04:43] <benplaut> sethk: remote admin my grandma's computer from about 10,000 miles away :P
[04:43] <benplaut> and yes, i need a GUI...
[04:43] <sethk> benplaut, use ssh with the -X flag
[04:43] <Shadyman> benplaut: Bwahaha
[04:43] <lennox`> im not too sure about switching to ubuntu fully yet, which is why i'm asking, i'm not that good at linux, i considered getting slackware to run good a feat
[04:43] <lennox`> ;p
[04:43] <Shadyman> I'm downloading Dappy livecd2
[04:43] <chmod775> hey I just deleted the dbboootstrap_settings file in root is that a probelm?
[04:43] <benplaut> sethk: so... "ssh -X ip.to.her.comp"?
[04:43] <sethk> benplaut, I admin a machine in taiwan from NY with ssh -X
[04:43] <Shadyman> lennox`: Ubuntu is way easier to use than slackware
[04:43] <chmod775> dbbootstrap_settings
[04:43] <chmod775> ?
[04:43] <panana> sobersabre :  im a newbie in java can u explain that 2 me?
[04:44] <sethk> benplaut, right, if the user names match
[04:44] <benplaut> sethk: what do you mean, if they match?
[04:44] <sethk> benplaut, if not (the user names don't match, that is), ssh -X user@ip
[04:44] <benplaut> ok
[04:44] <chmod775> dbbootstrap_settings
[04:44] <chmod775> ?
[04:44] <cafuego> benplaut: Add a -C (compress) as well.
[04:44] <sethk> benplaut, if you are logged in here as benplaut, say, and there is a benplaut user at the other end, them match
[04:44] <lennox`> one more question though, is there a console setup at all in ubuntu
[04:45] <lennox`> or is it all gui
[04:45] <dodgyville> Alright, I got the zoran v4l driver to load, how can I output video files to it? mplayer doesn't have a zr option available...
[04:45] <lennox`> i dont like having gui constantly
[04:45] <Shadyman> Question: If I were to upgrade to dappy, would my Gnome setup be affected?
[04:45] <rabbit1> sethk: do I need to specify my user?
[04:45] <benplaut> sethk: so... given using the above port forwarding, and telling ssh on poth comps to listen on port 8888, that would work?
[04:45] <oxez> lennox`: the install looks like slack's
[04:45] <lennox`> i know that, i've installed it before
[04:45] <oxez> lennox`: the same as debian
[04:45] <sethk> rabbit1, not for chmod.  It depends on how you want to set it up, though
[04:45] <benplaut> defuego, meet cafuego :)
[04:45] <lennox`> ah
[04:45] <cafuego> benplaut: ... and if the local or remote machines are slow, '-c <cipher>' for a less cpu-intensive cipher too.
[04:45] <Shadyman> Fuego~!
[04:45] <sethk> benplaut, I suppose, although I can't imagine why you wouldn't just use the default ssh port
[04:46] <defuego> cafuego Hi
[04:46] <lennox`> how much do you guys recommend for a swap size?
[04:46] <oxez> lennox`: I use CLI for everything that is system administration
[04:46] <benplaut> sethk: i think the ISP is blocking it
[04:46] <Shadyman> lennox`: 2 to 2 and a half times your RAM size
[04:46] <oxez> lennox`: I usually use 1.5x my RAM
[04:46] <sethk> benplaut, ok, then, that makes sense
[04:46] <Shadyman> lennox`: or 1.5
[04:46] <nalioth> lennox`: not more than 768mb, tho
[04:46] <rabbit1> sethk: like so?  chmod +w /mnt/drive
[04:46] <lennox`> i'm installing it on my old hdd
[04:46] <nalioth> cafuego: ping
[04:46] <lennox`> which is only 15gb
[04:46] <sethk> rabbit1, no
[04:46] <benplaut> i wish i had a way to try this before i get back to hawaii :(
[04:46] <defuego> anybody having trouble with Totem update lately?
[04:46] <cafuego> lennox`: There are no odd formulas to use anymore.
[04:46] <sethk> rabbit1, almost certainly it is already writable by its owner
[04:47] <lennox`> can i still access my files
[04:47] <sethk> rabbit1, you have to read about how privileges work in unix
[04:47] <cafuego> lennox`: I use 256 to 512Mb
[04:47] <lennox`> that i use on os2 warp
[04:47] <lennox`> ?
[04:47] <cafuego> lennox`: irrespective of ram
[04:47] <rabbit1> sethk: well then I have the wrong owner
[04:47] <benplaut> sethk: do i need to enable forwarding on the router of both the client and server, or just the server?
[04:47] <rabbit1> sethk:  I know about permissions
[04:47] <cafuego> lennox`: There used to be a 2xram rule with old 2.2 ekrnels, but no more.
[04:47] <Shadyman> benplaut: The server.
[04:47] <hangfire> not over double your ram
[04:47] <benplaut> thanks
[04:47] <lennox`> this is nice, atleast im not getting shit for asking stupid questions
[04:47] <lennox`> thank you guys very much
[04:47] <Shadyman> lennox`: I as stupid questions all the time :D
[04:47] <benplaut> ok, i'm outta here... i'm jetlagged to hell :|
[04:47] <nalioth> lennox`: please respect us with your language choices
[04:48] <sethk> rabbit1, you can change the owner.  It's unlikely that you really want to, but you can.  use chown -R to change all the files on the file system
[04:48] <nalioth> rabbit1: if you change all the perms on your local file system, you box won't work anymore
[04:48] <sethk> nalioth, it isn't his local file system
[04:49] <rabbit1> nalioth: it's an empty partition
[04:49] <nalioth> sethk: ok. i'm just pointing things out for folks who lurk
[04:49] <sethk> nalioth, it isn't his root file system or his usr or any other important one
[04:49] <sethk> nalioth, right.
[04:49] <sethk> rabbit1, if it is empty, then chown is perfectly reasonable.  You didn't tell me it is empty.  :)
[04:50] <silverblade> who can tell me all version of ubuntu
[04:50] <nalioth> silverblade: help.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <rabbit1> sethk:   so..   will this work?   chmod +w /mnt/drive  ??
[04:51] <silverblade> ok thx
[04:51] <sethk> rabbit1, unlikely.  I don't know the current permissions, but unless it is read only for everyone and everything, that won't work.  we already talked about that
[04:51] <fevel> im having trouble with nvidia svideo
[04:51] <fevel> can anyone help me out?
[04:51] <nalioth> fevel: ask a question with info in it
[04:52] <fevel> the screen apperas to be too much to the right
[04:52] <Shadyman> fevel: what kind of trouble?
[04:52] <rabbit1> sethk: the permission are:        drwxr-xr-x
[04:52] <fevel> on the tv
[04:52] <sethk> rabbit1, then chmod +w won't change anything
[04:52] <rabbit1> sethk: that's for   /mnt/drive
[04:52] <rabbit1> sethk:  what should I do so my user can write to it?
[04:52] <sethk> rabbit1, you didn't tell me the owner.  If you want it to be read/write for all, do  chmod a+w
[04:53] <rabbit1> sethk:  I don't know the owner?  It's mounted through fstab? who's the owner then?
[04:53] <concept10> Anyone here play the game TORCS?
[04:53] <sethk> rabbit1, everything is mounted, what difference does that make?  the owner is shown by ls -l
[04:54] <rabbit1> sethk:   doesn't ls -l   just show directory contents?
[04:54] <rabbit1> sethk:   you mean permissions!
[04:54] <sethk> rabbit1, use ls -ld
[04:54] <sethk> rabbit1, no, I mean owner
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Where can I look for information about hardware acceleration and configuring ATI graphics?
[04:54] <rabbit1> sethk:  oh yeah, there it is   root
[04:55] <WebLOCH> sethk fdiskstill reports /dev/sdf1 as being fat16
[04:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tonyyarusso about ati
[04:55] <sethk> rabbit1, so you can either use chown on it, or allow group or everyone to write to it
[04:55] <sethk> WebLOCH, fdisk doesn't show file system types.  fdisk will just show the partition type
[04:55] <owner> use cfdisk
[04:56] <owner> or gparted
[04:56] <WebLOCH> sethk i beg to differ, fdisk -l quite clearly indicates the filesystem
[04:56] <sethk> WebLOCH, no, I just ran it.  it shows the partition type, which is in general _not_ the file system type
[04:57] <WebLOCH> says 'system' which indicated fs
[04:57] <sethk> WebLOCH, no, it doesn't indicate anything of the sort
[04:57] <sethk> WebLOCH, for example, ext2, ext3 will show as linux
[04:57] <owner> ubuntu is usually ext 3
[04:58] <chmod775> Hi folks I follow the steps to install jre on firefox
[04:58] <chmod775> but in vain
[04:58] <WebLOCH> sethk, you are saying that the word "System" is NOT indicative of "Filesystem"
[04:58] <sethk> WebLOCH, for the third time, yes, that is what I'm saying
[04:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chmod775 about javadebs
[04:58] <WebLOCH> sethk thats just plain counter intuitive
[04:59] <sethk> WebLOCH, so?
[04:59] <owner> whats the best file system
[04:59] <WebLOCH> sethk, thats what i was trying to say
[04:59] <nalioth> owner: they each have their pros and cons, it depends on what you're gonna do with the system
[04:59] <sethk> WebLOCH, ok
[04:59] <owner> which one do you like the best nalioth
[04:59] <nalioth> owner: i use ext3
[05:00] <owner> what about reiserfs
[05:00] <sethk> owner, I've found reiserfs to be unreliable
[05:00] <Amaranth> reiserfs is a nice idea with a poor implementation
[05:00] <owner> oh
[05:01] <owner> but its supposed to be fast
[05:01] <sethk> owner, in almost all cases it is not faster than ext3
[05:02] <rabbit1> sethk:  thanks it worked..  it seems the 'other' write ability is required
[05:02] <owner> what about xfs
[05:03] <rabbit1> sethk: is this bad security wise at all?  (dumb question)
[05:03] <sethk> rabbit1, right, if users who don't own the file and aren't in the file's group need to write to it
[05:03] <sethk> rabbit1, depends on whether it is sensitive
[05:03] <sethk> rabbit1, you can change it to be owned by another user and leave it writable only by owner
[05:03] <rabbit1> sethk:  how do you change ownership?
[05:03] <sethk> rabbit1, chown
[05:04] <rabbit1> sethk:   ah, thanks for the help
[05:04] <wizardjames> what would be the path of a webcam if its on usb?..
[05:05] <rabbit1> sethk:  is it possible that my user could write to this, but that root couldn't?
[05:05] <sethk> rabbit1, yes, although of course root can change the permissions
[05:06] <intelikey> sethk are you sure that you can make a file noroot access ?
[05:06] <sethk> intelikey, yes.  it was one of the things that posix changed
[05:06] <intelikey> when did this happen ?
[05:06] <sethk> intelikey, about 15 years ago
[05:06] <sethk> intelikey, try it
[05:07] <intelikey> you better test it then cause i already did
[05:07] <sethk> intelikey, yes, I did.  If I make something non writable by root, then root can't write it
[05:08] <pashaw> intelikey,   why did you ask if its possible then  say you already did it
[05:09] <wizardjames> i got a webcam i am trying to get working..   when i do "lsusb" its there..   i tryed to find something that would see it..but nothing does.  everything keeps looking in /dev/video1 ..but its on a usb port..
[05:09] <renato> oi
[05:09] <intelikey> pashaw because i thought maybe linux had changer from 2.4  to 2.6  with a 2.6 kernel you can not make anything non-accessable to root.
[05:10] <renato> alguem a
[05:10] <intelikey> pardon 2.4 kernel ^
[05:10] <pashaw> renato,  language?
[05:10] <renato> portugues
[05:10] <nalioth> !br
[05:10] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:10] <marciotakata> oi
[05:11] <BxL> can someone tell me a startup-scirpt name in ubuntu
[05:11] <intelikey> i just re-tested it.    touch bob ;chmod 0000 bob ;mc -e bob <typed in test and saved> ;cat bob => test
[05:12] <intelikey> and that's also in a dir with permission set 000
[05:12] <rjordan> Anyone have the fglrx drivers working on an AMD64 system?
[05:13] <WebLOCH> what do you all use for creating images?
[05:13] <WebLOCH> creating ISO images from files on hdd that is *
[05:13] <pashaw> WebLOCH,   old  school i use cat
[05:13] <intelikey> WebLOCH xcdroast
[05:13] <WebLOCH> pashaw, is that possible?
[05:13] <rjordan> WebLOCH, mkisofs
[05:13] <sethk> intelikey, I was talking about writing.  I didn't say that root won't be able to read.
[05:14] <sethk> intelikey, I wonder why you would see something other than what I see.
[05:14] <intelikey> i was too seth
[05:14] <WebLOCH> rjordan, i tried mkisofs but apparently i cant get the syntax right
[05:14] <advent_linux> any idea why breezy won't automount my usb hdd, it automounts my usb flash drive no problem
[05:14] <sethk> intelikey, what you showed was a cat, at least in what I saw
[05:14] <intelikey> look again.
[05:14] <rjordan> WebLOCH, did you read the man page?
[05:15] <intelikey> mc -e   uses mc=midnight commander's built in editor
[05:15] <WebLOCH> rjordan, yup
[05:15] <WebLOCH> im just inept
[05:15] <pashaw> WebLOCH,  cat /dev/hdc > /mnt/images/image1.iso   CD iso image
[05:15] <sethk> intelikey, oh, I don't use mc, but I'll take your word for it.
[05:16] <rjordan> WebLOCH, I wouldn't say that, at least you can say that you read the man page. I can appreciate that you tried.
[05:16] <intelikey> sethk and why would 'touch bob ;cat bob '  give any out put?
[05:16] <sethk> intelikey, I didn't say that it would
[05:16] <sethk> intelikey, the question is whether an error occurred
[05:16] <pashaw> WebLOCH,   check this out   http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5639
[05:16] <WebLOCH> pashaw, ty
[05:16] <sethk> intelikey, although, it actually does produce output, which happens to be the empty file
[05:17] <intelikey> just say you were wrong and lets move on.
[05:17] <sethk> intelikey, if you like, but I see different behavior
[05:19] <intelikey> 24 [root$~]  cat bob
[05:19] <intelikey> test24 [root$~]  echo test2 >> bob
[05:19] <intelikey> 24 [root$~]  cat bob
[05:19] <intelikey> testtest2
[05:19] <intelikey> same file
[05:19] <intelikey> 24 [root$~]  ls -l bob
[05:19] <intelikey> ----------  1 root root 10 Dec 26 22:19 bob
[05:19] <sethk> intelikey, I believe you, I just don't see the same thing here
[05:20] <intelikey> that's why i asked if something had changed.
[05:20] <pashaw> intelikey,    read this  http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-files-immutable-which-even.html
[05:23] <dle> Hello.  I've just notived that udev is not started by default in this Breezy install.  Is that the norm for Breezy?
[05:23] <sethk> pashaw, that's interesting
[05:23] <pashaw> sethk,    yeah  if you can think it up  linux can do it
[05:24] <poningru> dle: thats not normal
[05:25] <poningru> unless you have like no devices which makes no sense
[05:25] <dle> poningru: Wait, I just checked my processes.  It *is* running, but it's not started from /etc/init.d .  Maybe something else starts it?
[05:25] <intelikey> hehhe  even the  At 1:02 AM, Anonymous said...   post
[05:26] <dle> oops, not init.d, rc
[05:27] <dle> no, it was init.d. Pardon my fuzziness.
[05:27] <pashaw> dle,   you been drinking
[05:28] <poningru> dle: hmm not sure what starts up udev
[05:28] <dle> pashaw, been wassailing.
[05:28] <dle> I guess it's not an issue after all.  Ah well. :-)
[05:29] <pashaw> dle,  glad we could help  :P
[05:29] <damian_> hi guys
[05:30] <damian_> I have a question. How can you add more alternatives to the send to or how can I change evoultion with my default mail client?
[05:31] <damian_> so quiet!
[05:31] <sethk> damian_, I don't quite understand the question, and I don't use evolution, so I'm not much help
[05:32] <damian_> sethk, I want to add more alternatives to the send to command
[05:32] <GnarlyBob> what do you mean "more alternatives" ?
[05:32] <sethk> damian_, you mean as in reply, reply to all, etc.?
[05:32] <GnarlyBob> and what "send to" command?
[05:32] <damian_> like send to thunderbird for example
[05:32] <nalioth> damian_: system > prefs > preffered applications
[05:32] <intelikey> where did the wether report go in evolution,  it used to have a wether and news built-in ???
[05:33] <sethk> damian_, send to thunderbird?
[05:33] <GnarlyBob> oooh
[05:33] <sethk> intelikey, weather
[05:33] <intelikey> yes
[05:33] <nalioth> intelikey: where indeed? i've been wondering that myself and nobody has ever answered it for me
[05:33] <sethk> damian_, do you mean like thunderbird's send to choices?
[05:33] <GnarlyBob> I think he means like right-click a file in nautilus, have thunderbird be a possible target or something
[05:33] <nalioth> sethk: he wants to change his default email client
[05:33] <damian_> yes gnarly, exactly
[05:33] <intelikey> that ws the only think i "kinda" liked about it....
[05:33] <damian_> nalioth i know how to make my email client the default
[05:34] <GnarlyBob> damian_: your mentioning of "evolution" confused things
[05:34] <damian_> Sorrym Gnarly
[05:34] <sethk> well, now that I understand the question, I still don't know the answer
[05:34] <GnarlyBob> Nor do I
[05:35] <GnarlyBob> I don't have a "send to" menu item
[05:35] <damian_> Gnarly, If you have a file and you right click you will see that option, I always liked that in windows
[05:35] <GnarlyBob> damian_: doesn't happen for me in gnome
[05:36] <GnarlyBob> oh wait, yes it does
[05:36] <GnarlyBob> I don't have it in whatever version of gnome I'm running on this (gentoo) box, but it's there on my ubuntu laptop
[05:38] <sethk> it is there in kde, and I could probably figure out how to change it in kde, but I don't know as much about gnome
[05:38] <damian_> So, I don't get an answer :(
[05:39] <GnarlyBob> I could probably figure out how to change it in gnome, after much experimentation and poking around, but I cba to right now
[05:39] <sethk> damian_, sorry, if I knew I would tell you.  :)
[05:39] <itro> /list
[05:40] <intelikey> isn't that kinda a long thing to be doing itro
[05:41] <majiklantrn> haha
[05:41] <intelikey> of course if he did that he'll never see that question.
[05:41] <intelikey> scrolled away long ago
[05:41] <damian_> ok, bye thanks
[05:41] <itro> alguien habla espaol?
[05:42] <intelikey> !es
[05:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:42] <majiklantrn> oh boy
[05:42] <itro> ok gracias
[05:42] <aTypical_> Hello all.  Does anyone know the status of the locale problem in Dapper?
[05:42] <D1-> anyone run ubuntu on the laptop?
[05:42] <majiklantrn> I am
[05:42] <aTypical_> Problem might not be the correct term, but it's a problem for me. :-)
[05:43] <aTypical_> D1-, I do.
[05:43] <majiklantrn> Just installed Ubunto on this laptop
[05:43] <rabbit> whenever I reboot, my wireless connection doesn't work, I have to run  "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  to get it to work, does anyone know why?  I didn't need to do this with the liveCD
[05:43] <D1-> how do you consider the battery life?
[05:43] <majiklantrn> Great
[05:43] <D1-> Im considering installing SUSE since it seems to have power profile management
[05:43] <D1-> but I dont know...
[05:43] <ilba7r> D1 same as window
[05:43] <majiklantrn> eh
[05:43] <majiklantrn> I get the same performance
[05:43] <majiklantrn> I left SUSE for Ubunto
[05:44] <intelikey> rabbit  put  'iwconfig wlan0 mode managed'  in one of the init scripts
[05:44] <rabbit> intelikey: where are the init scripts ?
[05:44] <majiklantrn> D1- What kind of CPU you running?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> D1-: I do.  IBM T43.
[05:45] <D1-> Pentium M 725
[05:45] <majiklantrn> Interesting.
[05:45] <majiklantrn> Your battery life should be awesome.
[05:45] <D1-> its 3 hours
[05:45] <D1-> nothing spectacular
[05:45] <majiklantrn> Thats decent
[05:45] <sethk> rabbit, in /etc/init.d
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Battery life is okay (~1.5 hrs) normally, if I lower the brightness of the screen it's more like 2.5.
[05:45] <GnarlyBob> anything less than 3 hours is really low-end imho
[05:46] <aTypical_> D1-, I've used both Ubuntu and SUSE and don't notice a difference (although, my laptop is plugged in most of the time).
[05:46] <majiklantrn> get a mac then..
[05:46] <intelikey> mmm hmm....  well maybe you better do it this way rabbit   'echo "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed" > wlan ;chmod 700 wlan ;sudo mv wlan /etc/rc2.d/S83wlan '
[05:46] <GnarlyBob> haha, point taken
[05:46] <GnarlyBob> (and I would if I could afford it)
[05:46] <psusi> I've read a lot of people have trouble because of usb... for some reason the usb bus prevents the cpu from entering the C3 state to save more power
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> I didn't opt for the more expensive battery; may someday when I have money for it.
[05:46] <intelikey> that command as is should fix you up rabbit
[05:46] <ilba7r> tonyarusso strange on my old t42 i have 3 hours. flexview display is the power hungry thing i have
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> That's with basically constant use too, taking notes in lecture.
[05:47] <majiklantrn> I believe the process "powernowd" process should control CPU proformance, giving better battery life.. I could be mistaken though
[05:47] <admash> Question: Is there a linux email client that supports "tagging" of email messages (either natively or via extension)?
[05:47] <GnarlyBob> admash: define "tagging"
[05:47] <majiklantrn> I think ubunto loves my thinkpad more then SuSE or Fedora.
[05:47] <rabbit> intelikey:    did you make up S83wlan?   does everything there get executed?
[05:47] <GnarlyBob> majiklantrn: ubuntu likes my laptop (dell) more than windows did
[05:48] <intelikey> yes and yes rabbit
[05:48] <majiklantrn> HAHAHAHA
[05:48] <majiklantrn> Gnarly, NICE
[05:48] <admash> GnarlyBob: "This email gets the 'business', 'sales', and 'northwest' tags" for organizational purposes.
[05:48] <factotum> I gave suse a shot, didnt like the the config tools in their kde
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r, Did you have to configure anything for that?
[05:48] <majiklantrn> SUSE has YAST which is pretty slick..
[05:48] <GnarlyBob> admash: thunderbird, evolution, kmail all have that ability
[05:48] <majiklantrn> but its too bloated
[05:48] <factotum> and my xorg configuration was all messed up, couldnt get the right refresh rate going
[05:49] <admash> GnarlyBob: Ok. good. Thanks.
[05:49] <majiklantrn> I had that problem with an external monitor.
[05:49] <GnarlyBob> (my personal recommendation is thunderbird.)
[05:49] <rabbit> intelikey:  thanks, I'll try it :)
[05:49] <ilba7r> tonyarusso nope but i heared that t43 is more power hungry that is why i got my t42 and i run it on full brightness all time
[05:49] <admash> GnarlyBob, Yes, that is my leaning also.
[05:49] <intelikey> any time
[05:49] <majiklantrn> t43 has PCI-e.. T42 doesn't, correct?
[05:49] <admash> BTW, kudos for a great distro. Zero installation problems here on a Dell Inspiron.
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> majiklantrn, Is there anything I need to do to use that powernowd thing?
[05:50] <GnarlyBob> ok, I really gotta figure out why ubuntu won't install on my pc
[05:50] <intelikey> does kmail do html yet ?
[05:50] <GnarlyBob> regeya_: I just use folders, usually.
[05:50] <majiklantrn> tonyyarusso, no.. should be good by default.. I know there were some ACPI updates after my installation of Ubunto.
[05:50] <regeya_> oh.  well, same here.
[05:50] <GnarlyBob> with filters
[05:50] <admash> GnarlyBob, what's it doing?
[05:50] <GnarlyBob> so my mail gets sorted into folders as it arrives
[05:50] <ilba7r> majiklantm do not know frankly
[05:50] <regeya_> Gnarlybob: Well, same here.
[05:51] <regeya_> I often do the sorting manually tho
[05:51] <aTypical_> No info on that locales issue in Dapper?
[05:51] <majiklantrn> ilba7r, what?
[05:51] <GnarlyBob> admash: I've gotten to the point where installation of base system craps out trying to find tar
[05:51] <ilba7r> anyone know how to view m4v video file
[05:51] <GnarlyBob> had that on 2 of the 5 breezy cd's sent from canonical
[05:51] <admash> GnarlyBob, Where did you get your iso?
[05:51] <regeya_> anything in the Inbox is actionable until I sort it.  I find that people tend to send me things in a totally random way so filters do me no good.
[05:51] <ilba7r> majiklantm you asked about PCI-e
[05:51] <majiklantrn> GnarlyBob, scratch on disk?
[05:51] <GnarlyBob> none visible
[05:52] <majiklantrn> ilba7r, oh.. Yeah.. I think T43 has PCI-E.. that could be a performace Hog.
[05:52] <regeya_> ilba7r, I'm assuming that's an mpeg4 video...xine, totem-xine, mplayer...
[05:52] <intelikey> vlc
[05:52] <Shadyman> what about the invisible ones?
[05:52] <GnarlyBob> somebody mentioned that there is an option in the install to verify the media, but I can't find it
[05:52] <regeya_> or vlc...
[05:52] <Shadyman> it's always the invisible scratches that get you.
[05:52] <ilba7r> regeya will try again thanx
[05:52] <majiklantrn> GnarlyBob, Try copying the whole CD to a HDD.. see if it gets stuck.
[05:52] <admash> GnarlyBob, Ah. I had problems with an iso downloaded via BitTorrent. Downloaded direct and it worked great. Coulda been a scratched cd though. dunno.
[05:52] <nalioth> GnarlyBob: after you enter your language and the first couple of things, hit "esc" and choose verify
[05:53] <majiklantrn> Installation Failures suck.
[05:53] <ilba7r> gmplayer did the trick. Strange totem did not though i have totem-xine
[05:53] <GnarlyBob> actually, that is just the last of a series of extremely frustrating install issues, many of which date back years and are indigenous to any debian-based distro
[05:53] <GnarlyBob> nalioth: thank you!
[05:53] <majiklantrn> GnarlyBob, get DVD support working in Ubunto yet?
[05:54] <GnarlyBob> majiklantrn: I've only gotten ubuntu successfully running on my laptop so far, and that doesn't have dvd
[05:54] <majiklantrn> Darn..
[05:54] <majiklantrn> I have yet to try to get it working.
[05:54] <regeya_> !botsnack
[05:54] <ubotu> thanks regeya_ :)
[05:54] <GnarlyBob> !botsex
[05:54] <ubotu> GnarlyBob: Syntax error in line 1
[05:54] <Shadyman> I'm burning me a Dappy Livecd to see if it fixes my ACPI problems
[05:54] <GnarlyBob> haha
[05:54] <regeya_> rofflecopters
[05:55] <regeya_> !botrofflecopters
[05:55] <ubotu> regeya_: Are you smoking crack?
[05:55] <regeya_> indeed.
[05:55] <Shadyman> rofflecopter
[05:55] <pashaw> majiklantrn, ???  my DVDs work fine
[05:55] <GnarlyBob> rofflecopter and lollerblades
[05:55] <Shadyman> and lmaonade
[05:55] <GnarlyBob> haha
[05:55] <majiklantrn> pashaw, DVD movies?
[05:55] <GnarlyBob> i like that one!
[05:56] <pashaw> majiklantrn,   only played   avi off DVD
[05:56] <GnarlyBob> majiklantrn: it should just work
[05:56] <pashaw> majiklantrn,  sorry
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone seen Firefox 1.5 crash if it gets a lot of tabs open?
[05:56] <majiklantrn> I tried "Mr. and Mrs. Smith".. I think I need to get the codec or something.
[05:56] <GnarlyBob> tonyyarusso: not I, and I've had ~60 tabs open at once
[05:56] <majiklantrn> I would upgrade to Firefox 1.5 if it supported Rhapsody.
[05:56] <majiklantrn> GnarlyBob, wow..
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> GnarlyBob, I think I was at about 40-50 when mine died just now.
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> Heavily extended too.
[05:57] <GnarlyBob> I was playing around, and did a "open all links in tabs" trick
[05:57] <GnarlyBob> it was not happy, for sure, but it did it
[05:57] <GnarlyBob> and I closed them each individually
[05:58] <majiklantrn> GnarlyBob, was that out of boredem?
[05:58] <GnarlyBob> and it seemed to clean up nicely, resource-wise
[05:58] <GnarlyBob> majiklantrn: playing with greasemonkey :)
[05:58] <vircuser> what are the system requirements of ubuntu linux on a x86 system
[05:58] <tuv> can i configure wpa_supplicant to use a static ip for a network and dhcp for another?
[05:58] <psusi> vircuser, whatever you care to give it.... heh
[05:58] <intelikey> resource wise ?    resource retarded ?
[05:58] <GnarlyBob> vircuser: you could install and run a minimal system on a 386 with 8MB and 200MB hdd
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> vircuser, I know they're on the web site.  The only one I remember is 128M RAM if you want X running.
[05:59] <vircuser> okay, thx
[05:59] <GnarlyBob> (not much different from my first linux box :D )
[05:59] <qwerty> thats alot
[05:59] <qwerty> but w/e
[05:59] <GnarlyBob> what's a lot?
[05:59] <majiklantrn> I don't think DVD support is out of the box with Ubunto... unless I am wrong.
[05:59] <qwerty> nvm
[05:59] <crimsun> tuv: wpa supplicant doesn't care about the IPs
[06:00] <crimsun> tuv: that's handled by /etc/network/interfaces (and generally dhclient above that)
[06:00] <qwerty> i havnt really used ubuntu alot, i have it though, is it good
[06:00] <psusi> majiklantrn, you need to install libdvdcss... stupid DMCA makes it illegal to distribute in the US
[06:00] <majiklantrn> psusi, those lamers
[06:00] <qwerty> ive heard it can support alot of devices
[06:00] <Shadyman> good thing im not in US.
[06:00] <majiklantrn> psusi, does that work with totem?
[06:00] <psusi> majiklantrn, yea
[06:01] <tuv> crimsun: doesn't interfaces file work the same way it does in debian?
[06:01] <Shadyman> Hey guys, if I install dappy over breezy, are my gnome settings going to get erased?
[06:01] <psusi> majiklantrn, I switched to totem-xine though... works better for me
[06:01] <crimsun> tuv: yes
[06:01] <majiklantrn> psusi, I'll give it a shot.
[06:01] <majiklantrn> psusi, thanks.
[06:01] <tuv> i used mapping to configure static and dhcp depending on ssid, but for some reason it doesn't work
[06:02] <pashaw> majiklantrn,   you made me check   playing return of the king DVD right now
[06:02] <crimsun> tuv: are you using p{re,ost}-up directives in /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:02] <tuv> crimsun: no ip's get assigned from either mapping configuration
[06:02] <franky123> i just switched monitors from one that could do 1024x768 to one that could do 1280x1024 and i'm not sure how to set up gnome to use that resolution. help?
[06:02] <majiklantrn> pashaw, haha.. nice..
[06:02] <sethk> franky123, the easy way is to go to resolution in the system/preferences menu
[06:03] <j-linux> I've been using Hoary for months... Just started using Breezy... This is amazing... Flash installs in Firefox without a problem...
[06:03] <tuv> crimsun: do i have to? wpa_supplicant is working fine and i suppose it needs the interface up to do so.. so i think the interface is already up
[06:03] <franky123> sethk: it only lets me change resolutions from 1024 ... down, not up
[06:03] <Shadyman> franky: You have to go in and edit an Xconf file or something
[06:03] <franky123> i mean, 1280x1024 is not one of the options, i tried editing xorg.conf ... but i'm not that smart
[06:03] <Shadyman> x.conf i think
[06:03] <sethk> franky123, then it believes either that your card can't do better, or your monitor can't do better.  Did it detect the new monitor?
[06:03] <Shadyman> yeah that's the one
[06:03] <majiklantrn> psusi, Did you do it with an apt-get or compile the source?
[06:03] <sethk> franky123, you may need to reconfigure to get it to notice that the monitor is different
[06:04] <franky123> sethk: no, i know that for a fact. xorg.conf still said the old monitor was being used.
[06:04] <franky123> sethk: how would i go about doing that?
[06:04] <psusi> majiklantrn, apt-get iirc... there was a howto on the wiki iirc
[06:04] <crimsun> tuv: wpa supplicant doesn't care whether the ifaces are up (hence the -w flag)
[06:04] <majiklantrn> ok
[06:04] <qwerty> what is ubuntu good for
[06:04] <Shadyman> qwerty: Computing.
[06:04] <psusi> qwerty, making people ask questions
[06:05] <qwerty> lol
[06:05] <crimsun> tuv: what you need to do, if you're not using my packages in Dapper, is configure wpa supplicant as pre-ups in your /etc/network/interfaces
[06:05] <qwerty> funny
[06:05] <majiklantrn> qwerty, getting laid
[06:05] <franky123> qwerty: ubuntu is good for you
[06:05] <tuv> crimsun: i'm trying to avoid that.. can't i just add "preup ifconfig eth1 up" or something
[06:06] <crimsun> tuv: you shouldn't call ifconfig [..]  up in /etc/network/interfaces (generally)
[06:07] <annibis> I just got a new hard drive, can anyone help me with the process to get it working
[06:07] <tuv> crimsun: so you are saying that relying on wpa_supplicant to choose the network can never work?
[06:07] <gezim> Hi all. Where are the insturctions on getting 3d acceleration for my card working?
[06:07] <crimsun> tuv: no, that's not what I'm saying at all
[06:07] <crimsun> tuv: I'm saying you shouldn't make tuv handle IP assignment
[06:07] <gezim> annibis, you should be able to plug it in (after turning machine off) and ubunut should recognize new hd
[06:07] <crimsun> s/tuv/wpa supplicant/
[06:08] <tuv> crimsun: am i and wpa_supplicant that confusing? :)
[06:08] <crimsun> tuv: at times
[06:08] <franky123> anybody know how i can get X to realize im using a differnt monitor so i can change the resolution?
[06:08] <annibis> gezim, it does not I have tried partioning it, and mounting it but I can never see it in the file browser
[06:09] <crimsun> !tell franky123 about fixres
[06:09] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you here tonight?
[06:09] <franky123> thank you.
[06:09] <gezim> annibis, so ubuntu sees it but not the file browser?
[06:09] <tuv> crimsun: but if i have to run wpa_supplicant as a preup then i cannot let it choose the network since a preup is specific to a given network already chosen by interfaces file
[06:09] <gezim> !tell me about 3d acceleration
[06:09] <crimsun> tuv: you're confusing ssid preference with IP lease
[06:10] <annibis> gezim, I can go to the disk viewer and browser it that way but that is the only way it will like me access it
[06:10] <crimsun> tuv: note that in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, you can set priorities for given network stanzas
[06:10] <majiklantrn> !tell fixres
[06:10] <gezim> annibis, is it being mounted?
[06:10] <Jeeves_moss> all: does any one here have ANY experiance with Ubuntu and a Compaq RAID card?
[06:10] <tuv> crimsun: consider the case where i have a 1-to-1 mapping between networks and ip configurations
[06:11] <crimsun> tuv: that doesn't matter; your issue lies in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[06:11] <gezim> anybody...I need 3d acceleration (fglrx). How do I install it. Where is that page which I can no longer find?
[06:11] <gezim> !tell me about fglrx
[06:12] <dragoon> im having issues with xinerama
[06:12] <Jeeves_moss> gezim:  have you looked into the package bundler for ubuntu?
[06:12] <dragoon> i have no cursor in any opengl things
[06:12] <mgbaron> hi, im trying to access AR object methods using the send() method to call a dynamic attribute.  this has been working fine but now I need to access an a method on top of that attribute.  The value of the attribute is stored in a string, so I need to be able to do something like obj.send("method1.method2").  does anyone know how this is possible?
[06:12] <dragoon> well i do - and it disappears when i use it
[06:12] <gezim> Jeeves_moss, no. there was a page with insturction (looked like ubuntu faq) but I can't find it anymore.
[06:12] <Jeeves_moss> cirmsun:  do you know anything about Compaq RAID cards?  I'm getting an error with mine and I'd REALY like to get this POS server up tonight.
[06:13] <Jeeves_moss> gezim:  give me a sec.  I've got an idea.
[06:13] <tuv> crimsun: but why isn't the interfaces file working for my case?
[06:13] <crimsun> Jeeves_moss: sorry, RAID's not my specialty.
[06:13] <tuv> crimsun: the interface is up as ifconfig shows it
[06:13] <gezim> Jeeves_moss, thanks.
[06:13] <mgbaron> errr, wrong channel
[06:13] <Jeeves_moss> gezim:  whats the card you've got again?
[06:13] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, what's the error?
[06:14] <crimsun> tuv: sanitise your /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin it
[06:14] <psusi> and are you using a proprietary driver, or is there one in the linux kernel that supports that device?
[06:14] <gezim> Jeeves_moss, ati radeo 9700 (mobile)
[06:15] <Jeeves_moss> pusisi:  it goes to boot, and then errors out on "ALERT! /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist"
[06:15] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, what is the boot device supposed to be?
[06:16] <Aven> how do I upload files with ACSII mode?
[06:16] <dragoon> any ideas ?
[06:16] <psusi> Aven, using what tool/protocol?
[06:17] <Jeeves_moss> it shoudl be that compaq aray.  I used "smartstart" to RIAD 0 the 2 drives together, then told the installer to use the free space on the /c0d0p1 aray to install.  the install went fine, then it reboots, gives me that error, then drops to busybox shell.
[06:17] <Aven> nautilus
[06:17] <crimsun> most ftp clients default to binary mode; you have to force ascii mode explicitly
[06:17] <Aven> crimsun: I do
[06:17] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, you had to run this "smartstart" by hand during the install?  where did this come from?
[06:17] <Jeeves_moss> gezim:  are you sure its a 9700?  All I see on ATI's website is the single mobile chipset driver.  Try d-loading the source packages.
[06:17] <Aven> how do you upload files in gftp though?
[06:17] <crimsun> Aven: you shouldn't have to use ascii mode at all
[06:17] <Aven> drag-and-drop doesn't work
[06:18] <Aven> crimsun: a forum software needs to be uploaded in ACSII mode
[06:18] <Jeeves_moss> pusui:  you have to run it to "wipe" the old configurations out of the server and to set up the RAID drives.
[06:18] <Aven> or it would receive an internal server error, which I keep getting
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:18] <gezim> Jeeves_moss, I tried that but it's RPM and I don't want to deal with rpms. This darned ubuntu site had the information I need and everyone seemd to know it last night :(
[06:19] <tuv> crimsun: pasted: tuv-interface
[06:19] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, if you boot from the livecd, does it see any drives?
[06:19] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  I just don't know WHY it installed fine, then decided to crash out when I rebooted.  I would think that if there was a problem accessing the RAID drive, then the installer woulden't let you finish installing.
[06:20] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, my guess is that that program also configures the kernel to recognize the raid array... which needs to be done during every boot ( and isn't )
[06:20] <majiklantrn> What is "Extra-Repository" with Ubunto ?
[06:20] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  I haven't tried it yet.  its just that I'm on a SLOW wireless connection so it takes a while.
[06:20] <rabbit> intelikey: still here?
[06:20] <tuv> crimsun: the mapping script echos either eth1-home or eth1-other
[06:20] <smallfoot> hello
[06:20] <smallfoot> i was wondering if there are any gay people here
[06:20] <smallfoot> who is interested in making a ubuntu fork for gay people
[06:20] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  give me a few mins, I'll see if I've got the ISO kicking around on my netowrk,
[06:20] <smallfoot> it will have a pink background wallpaper
[06:20] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, I wonder if this card is a fake hardware raid like the one I have on my motherboard?
[06:20] <Kyral> ...
[06:21] <BxL> smallfoot, i have a pink wallpaper
[06:21] <smallfoot> cool
[06:21] <smallfoot> wish to contribute it?
[06:21] <majiklantrn> I have a pink wallpaper also
[06:21] <Aven> smallfoot: I was wondering if you would shut the fuck up
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> smallfoot, And that would need an entire fork why?
[06:21] <Jeeves_moss> no, this is a knowen issue with this G1 server (its a DL380), and no one has been able to crack it.
[06:21] <smallfoot> Aven, hmm... nope?
[06:21] <Aven> hmm? yes
[06:21] <majiklantrn> Pink is my favorite color..
[06:21] <smallfoot> tonyyarusso, i dont know
[06:21] <pk_volt> how long did it take you guys to figure out how to use fvwm
[06:21] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, if it is a hardware fakeraid then you might find some insight from the howto I wrote on using ones like mine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[06:22] <majiklantrn> psusi, Do you know what "Extra-Repository" is?
[06:22] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  fake RAID?  why woudl it be that?  this is a rackmount server thats totaly hardware baised for RAID.  there is an actual modual that plugs into the MoBo for it.
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone again.. does anybody knows how can I configure my printer to work on linux?
[06:23] <crimsun> tuv: does this interfaces(5) work in Debian?
[06:23] <tsume> I'm getting errors when performing a apt-get update
[06:23] <tsume> anyone else getting them? It worked this morning..
[06:23] <Shadyman> tsume what kind of errors?
[06:23] <crimsun> tsume: try another mirror first.
[06:23] <Aven> so anyone have any sort of ideas how to upload files in nautlius with ACSII mode?
[06:23] <tuv> crimsun: i didn't try this file in particular but i had a similar one sometime ago and unfortunately lost it.. so from memory: yes. do you see something wrong?
[06:24] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, I have a sata fakeraid on my motherboard... the raid is implemented in software by the bios and either a proprietary driver on windows, or the kernel device mapper driver on linux...
[06:24] <majiklantrn> tsume, Just tried it, works
[06:24] <smallfoot> !troll world peace nothing but
[06:24] <ubotu> smallfoot: I don't know
[06:24] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, maybe yours isn't fakeraid... but it sounds like it has some special requirements that might be similar
[06:24] <smallfoot> hey why it dont work this time?
[06:24] <smallfoot> oops, they kicked m
[06:24] <smallfoot> lol
[06:24] <tsume> crimsun: checinghttp://rafb.net/paste/results/V71dKz19.html
[06:24] <crimsun> tuv: your mapping eth1 stanza doesn't actually map anywhere
[06:24] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, you will need to figure out exactly what this "smartstart" does to get the kernel to see the raid... it may just load a kernel module... in that case, you need to get that module into the initrd
[06:25] <psusi> Aven, you are uplading plain text files?
[06:25] <tuv> crimsun: what am i missing?
[06:25] <Jeeves_moss> psusi: oh, ok.  I don't think this is one.  I think its totaly a true hardware baised RAID.  I'll see if I can find the URL to the unit.  As for SmartStart, its just for configuring the servers "bios"
[06:25] <crimsun> tuv: you need to tell it (underneath script /usr/local[..] ) to map FOO eth1-home\nmap FOO2 eth1-other
[06:25] <Aven> psusi: yes
[06:26] <Aven> and files
[06:26] <crimsun> tuv: where FOO{2} are the outputs from the /usr/local[..]  script you specify in mapping eth1
[06:26] <Aven> *folders
[06:26] <Aven> folders and files
[06:26] <crimsun> tuv: take a look at the example in interfaces(5)
[06:26] <psusi> Aven, it really should be just fine in binary mode... try using the command line ftp program which can do ascii mode to see if that's the problem
[06:26] <tuv> crimsun: but the output is already eth1-home or eth1-other
[06:26] <sorush20> can i install gtk2 and gtk at the same time?
[06:26] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  here is my toy.  http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl380/index-1ghz.html
[06:26] <Aven> hmm
[06:26] <Aven> second question...
[06:27] <crimsun> tuv: but that hasn't been associated with your mapping eth1
[06:27] <Aven> how do you upload files in gftp?
[06:27] <Shadyman> Jeeves_moss: Yummy.
[06:27] <Aven> drag-and-drop won't work
[06:27] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, it sounds like it may be the same as the dmraid utility I use for my fakeraid... at the least though, if it is a hardware raid, it probably has to load a kernel module to talk to it
[06:27] <crimsun> tuv: as far as ifupdown is concerned, it has no idea what to do with the output from that script
[06:27] <dragoon> guys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser
[06:27] <zozvozozo> Hello, new to ubuntu. unable to find glibc in the repository. i understand libc6-dev contains this?
[06:28] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  did you check the link?
[06:28] <tsume> okay just the main mirror is broken
[06:28] <Shadyman> zozvozozo: sudo apt-get install dev-essentials
[06:28] <tsume> the server runs a update later anyway, so I'll just change it back :)
[06:28] <mcjerry> does anyone have vmware installed?
[06:28] <Shadyman> mcjerry: Yep
[06:28] <tsume> majiklantrn: yes
[06:28] <smallfoot> is it true that ubuntu shipped with porn?
[06:28] <tsume> ops
[06:28] <andrei> hello everybody
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Aven: With the arrow.
[06:28] <Shadyman> smallfoot: Yeah, and it's pretty good, too.
[06:29] <tsume> smallfoot: bsd pr0n
[06:29] <smallfoot> cool
[06:29] <tsume> smallfoot: banging the penguin ;)
[06:29] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, looking at it now...
[06:29] <Shadyman> bwahaha
[06:29] <crimsun> tuv: have you stepped through the script's output?
[06:29] <Aven> tonyyarusso: what arrow?
[06:29] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm i just played an mp3 with vlc  and the sound was fine but the screen was blank   what did i do wrong ?
[06:29] <tuv> crimsun: ok.. corrected it: added "map HOME eth1-home \n map OTHER eth1-other" where HOME or OTHER is the output of the script. still the interface is not configured
[06:29] <Aven> ohh, I get it now
[06:29] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  there is lots of support for RedCrap and Suse.
[06:29] <Aven> ty
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Aven: The one pointing between the local and remote sites.
[06:29] <Aven> yeah
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Aven: np.
[06:29] <rabbit> Whenever I boot my wireless doesn't work until I 'deactivate' and then 'activate' my wlan connection     (before I also had to do "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  but I put that in a startup script)
[06:29] <smallfoot> is ubuntu the most widely used linucks distribution?
[06:29] <tuv> crimsun: yes.. the script works fine
[06:29] <sorush20> its amazing how little space all the installations and all the programs take in liux?
[06:29] <sorush20> linux
[06:30] <tuv> crimsun: it outputs either HOME or OTHER. that's it
[06:30] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, aye... but the problem with proprietary crap like this is they don't tell you what they are doing, so when it doesn't "just work" you can't fix it
[06:30] <crimsun> tuv: can you manually invoke ifup and have it work properly?
[06:30] <crimsun> tuv: if so, you're just missing the auto eth1
[06:30] <mcjerry> Shadyman: i have Dapper and installed vmware today....i have the knoppix cd in /dev/hda and vmware says no cdrom inserted
[06:30] <Shadyman> mcjerry: Uh, sorry, never tried it on linux :D
[06:30] <andrei> I just finished instaling Ubuntu on my ibook, can anyone help me do the wifi work ?
[06:31] <smallfoot> what is the best operating system)
[06:31] <Aven> yes, ascii works!
[06:31] <smallfoot> A) ms windows
[06:31] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, but I'll bet you the utility you ran loaded a kernel module to talk to the controller... you need to figure out where that module is and built it into your initrd so it's availible on reboot
[06:31] <smallfoot> B) ubuntu linux
[06:31] <smallfoot> c) MCTOINSH
[06:31] <tuv> crimsun: hmm.. very good point.. let me check
[06:31] <Shadyman> smallfoot: That's only cause it ships with pr0n.
[06:31] <Shadyman> ;)
[06:31] <smallfoot> ok
[06:31] <smallfoot> could be
[06:31] <Zahrber> anyone able to get a USB wifi adapter to work
[06:31] <zozvozozo> cannot find package dev-essentials
[06:31] <crimsun> zozvozozo: build-essential?
[06:31] <zozvozozo> trying
[06:31] <Shadyman> That might be it.
[06:31] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  well, I'd like to get this server running @ some point.  I LOVE ubuntu (and hate red Crap), so I need to find a way around this.  I love this ugly little server, and I'd hate to see it go to waste.
[06:32] <rabbit> Whenever I boot my wireless doesn't work until I 'deactivate' and then 'activate' my wlan connection     (before I also had to do "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  but I put that in a startup script)
[06:32] <smallfoot> TRIVIA QUESTIONS! What is the best OS? A: Windows XP, B: Ubuntu Linux, C: Mac OS X, D: NetBSD ?
[06:32] <crimsun> smallfoot: -EOFFTOPIC
[06:32] <Shadyman> ERR_OFFTOPIC; Kernel Panic!
[06:32] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  if you don't care about rebooting your card, then make a startup script.  VERY simple.  No sense making more work for your self.
[06:32] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, then I'd say boot from the livecd... my guess is it won't see any drives until you run this "smartstart" thing... so you'll have to see what module it loads to be able to access the drives
[06:32] <smallfoot> TRIVIA QUESTIONS! Who is most cute? A: Linus Torvalds, B: Richard Stallman, C: Steve Ballmer
[06:33] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  how how how ? : )
[06:33] <Zahrber> my USB wifi isn't seen when I plug it in...I am wondering how to install the module for it
[06:33] <Shadyman> !spam
[06:33] <ubotu> No idea, Shadyman
[06:33] <smallfoot> ok
[06:33] <alpha> anyone play with digital sat cards and ubuntu?
[06:33] <bob_4_a_day> how do you spell troll smallfoot ?
[06:33] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  why would I care about rebooting my card?   nothing bad with that is it?
[06:33] <mcjerry> Shadyman: i am such a dumbass, answered my own question,  virtual machine settings for cdrom was /dev/hdb and i changed it to /dev/hda and is working now
[06:33] <odat> anyone have any insight on this whole SCO lawsuit?
[06:33] <Shadyman> mcjerry: :D
[06:34] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  the smart start CD only sets up such things as the time, locations, and does basic RAID setups.  It dosen't do anything other than make the RAID set up (from physical to logical)
[06:34] <crimsun> odat: probably a very poor place to gain insight; groklaw is better for that
[06:34] <odat> crimsun, k thanx
[06:34] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, I'll bet $5 that it loads the kernel module that talks to the raid hardware
[06:35] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, and since that module isn't in your initrd, the kernel can't talk to the raid hardware when you reboot
[06:35] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  unless you see smoke running out the side of your laptop, then don't worry about it.  My Toshiba Sta 20 does that.  its a pain in the ass.  Once the system boots, it "flashes" the power to the card.  Then you have to either physicaly turn it off and on again, or just tell the OS to reboot it.  One thing you might do if the actual hardware is resetting it see if you can configure the card as a hotplugable card so the OS wil
[06:35] <tuv> crimsun: yes.. it is working with my pasted interfaces as is.. the map part of the mapping is obviously for passing parmaters to the script, which i don't need. i just had to replace network with netmask in the static part.. thanks man
[06:35] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:watchdog on it.
[06:36] <blanky> what window manager do they use here? http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/chp_01/programs.html
[06:36] <crimsun> tuv: ah, great. Good thing I overlooked that one (d'oh!)
[06:36] <josh14> #linux
[06:37] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  damn it.  so now what do I do?  the SmartStart CD is compleatly seprate from install of the OS.  Once the server's hardware is set up, then it behaves like a normal PC with no boot disk.
[06:37] <Kyral> blanky: its most likely something liek AfterStep or CDE
[06:37] <blanky> CDE or AfterStep, okay
[06:37] <blanky> thanks
[06:37] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  watchdog?
[06:37] <Kyral> I think
[06:38] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, wait... when you installed ubuntu, you didn't have to boot the setup cd, then switch to a console or something and mess with smartstart, then continue with the install?
[06:38] <zozvozozo> can i not get and install dev-essentials (or build-essentials) via Adept?
[06:38] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  yes, the OS will poll the card every once and a while to see if its still attached, and if it sees that its re-attached, it reinstalls it into the system.  No need to keep rebooting the card in the OS
[06:38] <tsume> odat: yeah.. <SCO> we want money! <linux users converting SCO systems> No
 WE want MONEY!!!!! NOWW!!!! <linux users who converted> Nooo!!
[06:39] <Shadyman> hehe
[06:39] <psusi> hehehe
[06:39] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  nope.  you run the SmartStart CD.  It sets up the hardware stuff, then you reboot the computer with the new OS CD in the drive.  Then the PC behaves just like a regular PC with no OS installed.
 We'll sue!! <linux users leet> go ahead.. <SCO> WHHHAAA!!!!!!!
[06:39] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:    so are hotpluggable and watchdog 2 different things?
[06:39] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, hrm.... then it sounds like the livecd should just see the drive... boot it up and find out...
[06:39] <bob_4_a_day> blanky studing ruby ?
[06:40] <tsume> ruby power! :)
[06:40] <blanky> bob_4_a_day, nah, not now at the moment, just came across it. I just got a book on python yesterday, but ruby for sure soon
[06:40] <Shadyman> tsume: <SCO Computers> *shutting down in 5.. 4.. 3..* <SCO> Dang you, linux geeks and your leetness! <linuxers> Bwahaha.
[06:40] <Jeeves_moss> "hotpluggable" HAS a watchdog running on it.  think about it like a PCMICA card being inserted.  if there wasen't a "watchdog" running on the ports, than the PC woulden't know when you installed a crad.
[06:40] <odat> tsume, the whole idea is a scary one though
[06:40] <bob_4_a_day> blanky looked at perl ?
[06:40] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  k
 OK WE ARENT REALLY HAVE SCO UNIX THIS IS MICROSOFT XENIX YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TRICKEID !! HAHA HAIODITS!
[06:40] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  and if it DOES see the drive, THAN what?
 OMG PWNED.
[06:41] <blanky> bob_4_a_day, I thoguht about it, but didn't really give it a shot i guess
[06:41] <blanky> smallfoot, huh?
[06:42] <smallfoot> yeh, in 1985 or so, Microsoft has an unix-like operating system called Xenix
[06:42] <smallfoot> they later sold it o SCO
[06:42] <smallfoot> who renamed it to SCO OpenSerever
[06:42] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, see if it sees it as /dev/ida/c0d0p1, if the name is wrong, then fix your /boot/grub/menu.lst to specify the correct boot=
[06:42] <Jeeves_moss> smallfoot:  ahhh, good "ole Bill.  I'd like to bitch slap him
[06:42] <tsume> heh, yep
[06:42] <smallfoot> ye
[06:43] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  how would I go about finding out what it sees the drive as?
[06:43] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, fire up gparted is a good start
[06:43] <Jeeves_moss> ok, brb, going to find out.
[06:43] <sls> hello..
[06:43] <sls> i hae just bought a samsung yp-t7 mp3 player
[06:43] <Ralken> whats the command to delet a directory I tryed "sudo rmdir /myfile/" and it said the directory was not empty
[06:44] <crimsun> Ralken: rm -rf
[06:44] <sls> and it is supposed to mount like any other usb sorage device
[06:44] <Ralken> crimsun,  thanks
[06:44] <sls> only nothing happens?
[06:44] <bob_4_a_day> Ralken use with caution
[06:44] <sls> how do I fix this?
[06:44] <zozvozozo> found and installed build-essentials, thanks! :)
[06:45] <nopea> does anybody know if DHCP, NAT, DNS and other such network functions can be accessed thru Gnome (no the the shell)
[06:45] <smallfoot> ubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!
[06:45] <sls> nopea: not in ubunty
[06:45] <sls> ubuntu
[06:45] <binarydigit> what sound server allows multiple sounds to be played at once
[06:45] <nopea> bummer
[06:45] <sls> try suse or redhat
[06:45] <smallfoot> ubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!
[06:45] <smallfoot> ubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!
[06:45] <smallfoot> ubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!
[06:45] <smallfoot> ubnutu have no root???????????111 HELP IM CHACKED!! SOMEONT STOlE MINE ROOT!
[06:46] <sls> binarydigit: esd
[06:46] <binarydigit> k
[06:46] <Ralken> bob_4_a_day,  yea I know I can totally erase everything in my directory lol
[06:46] <pk_volt> how do i set my windows partition (sda3) to allow read for non-root users?
[06:46] <Jeeves_moss> ALL!!!: will some one PLEASE hit smallfoot?
[06:46] <nopea> I want to turn an old PC into a router and such - thought I would use Ubuntu - 2003 is just far to pricy for a home server deal :)
[06:46] <bob_4_a_day> with the sudo prepended on the whole system (all mounted drives) Ralken
[06:47] <garry> Give a person a program and you frustrate them for a day. Teach a person how to program and you frustrate them for a lifetime!
[06:47] <sls> nopea: Fedora (free redhat) and suse both are free and do have gui utils for these apps.
[06:47] <nopea> sls, cheers!
[06:47] <Ralken> bob_4_a_day, thanks I deleted what I needed to
[06:47] <sls> so does mangrake or mandriva.
[06:47] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  go get a good "howto" on shell stuff, and lear.  its easy to set up once you know where everything is, and how it works.  Two words for ya.  TEXT FILES!!
[06:47] <nopea> I used to use Fedora - but I love Ubuntu
[06:47] <tsume> garry: that only applies to java programmers
[06:47] <nopea> :)
[06:48] <Ralken> bob_4_a_day,  I should not have used root to put it there in the first place lol
[06:48] <dragoon> guys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser can anyone help lease
[06:48] <dragoon> please
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> garry i'd laugh,  but there is nothing funny about that ...
[06:48] <nopea> there is a PPPoE client no?
[06:48] <tsume> garry: you see, they aren't real programmers. So they are always frustrated ;)
[06:48] <sls> does anyone own a samsun mp3 player?????
[06:48] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  yes there is.  its another modual you install
[06:49] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, thanks
[06:49] <Jeeves_moss> psusi:  should I mention that the drives in this beast are SCSI drives in a hotpluggable cage?
[06:49] <Inf3ctedFx> Ppl, I have a problem with my microphone
[06:49] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  NP
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> what's wrong with your microPfone ?
[06:50] <psusi> Jeeves_moss, I figured that out ;)
[06:50] <sls> can anyone please help with a samsun YP-T7 MP3 player...
[06:50] <garry> Hehe, Lots of tiells on the frustation thing. As for making read access for non-root users, I'm not sure. I've always been able to get access via system/administration/disks
[06:50] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, do you do alot of networking?
[06:50] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm trying to configure gnomemeeting
[06:50] <Inf3ctedFx> but I can't pass the test on my mic
[06:50] <pk_volt> how do you display a text file in terminal
[06:50] <dragoon> cat
[06:50] <h4x> cat filepath/filename
[06:50] <pk_volt> thanks
[06:50] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  not realy.  I own a company that re-does corprate networks.  I do the hardware side of things.
[06:50] <psusi> pk_volt, any number of ways... cat... less...
[06:50] <dragoon> guys im having issues - using Xinerama... OpenGL applications have no curser can anyone help lease
[06:51] <psusi> pk_volt, pico if you want to modify it
[06:51] <Jeeves_moss> pk_volt:  Pico <file name>
[06:51] <Shadyman> Where do you get the kernel sources from?
[06:51] <Jeeves_moss> shadyman:  apt-get install kernel-source
[06:51] <Shadyman> Jeeves_moss: Thanks, Been trying to get that all day :P
[06:52] <bob_4_a_day> pk_volt if you just want to view text  less  is made for that.
[06:52] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:   I think my card is hotpluggable, take a look at my /etc/network/interfaces   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6226
[06:52] <Jeeves_moss> shadyman:  NP.  you can also get to it from the package installer off of KDE's GUI
[06:52] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, cool - yesterday I tried this trick where I plugged my Fiber Optic modem into a hub then the old PC into the hub and connected with PPPoE thru the hub, all other PCs at home (2) connected to the hub could access the net (thru a NAT) - wondered if thats normal
[06:52] <crimsun> Shadyman: you want linux-source-2.6.12 in Breezy
[06:52] <Shadyman> Jeeves_moss: Kernel-source has no installation candidate
[06:52] <Shadyman> crimsun: yeah
[06:52] <bob_4_a_day> less is so much more than more.....
[06:52] <Shadyman> Less is more.
[06:52] <h4x> a note to room. I had trouble with ubuntu, it would freeze for about 15 seconds in intervals of about 45 seconds. The system was fairly old, It only had 256mb of ram and it had no FANS! (after a terrible modding accident.) The problem was, that the cpu got so hot that it would have a "heart attack" and lock up. I bought some fans today, as well as some more ram. (it now has a gig). Everything works fine now :)
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> cause more is just less than less....
[06:53] <Shadyman> yes.
[06:53] <Shadyman> With Charmin ultra, Less is more.
[06:53] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  I'll look @ it in a sec.  one thing you can do it create multi profiles for it so all you'd have to do is type ifconfig up <card profile> and it'll read the part of the file that has the right configuration for your card
[06:53] <Shadyman> oh dear. now i have that commercial in my head.
[06:54] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  no, you've left your systems open.  if its a true "hub" and not a router, then ALL the systems would have to be firewalled.  not to mention you don't have any access or routing control over the ISP's connection.
[06:56] <lennox`> in ubuntu is there an easy way to install gcc so i can compile programs i download?
[06:56] <mcjerry> does anyone here run vmware on linux? i have an xorg.conf issue i need help with now
[06:56] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  that link is a basic "interfaces" set up file.  mine has 2 differen't settings for both my wired and woreless cards.  when I'm out, I just type in "ifconfig up away" and it configures my cards to be DHCPed, and when I'm @ home, I type in "ifconfig up home", and it auto configures my cards with the corect static IPs for my networks.
[06:56] <psusi> lennox`, install build-essential
[06:56] <Shadyman> lennox`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:56] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, I should be more clear - I have the old PC connected to my ISP with PPoE - which goes from the NIC on the old PC to the hub, then to the fiber modem.  The PPPoE dialer has a firewall on it.  The other PCs connect to the old PC (server) via the hub, and all Internet requests go thru the NAT on the old PC (server).  Sorry if that makes no sense ;-)
[06:56] <Jeeves_moss> mcjerry:  there is a VERY good artical in the "linux journal" this month on just that very program
[06:57] <h07m> how do i mount afloppy drive in ubuntu/livecd
[06:57] <bob_4_a_day> h4x it you really want to talk cooling i have some heat transfer chips that they use on NSSB's  that are just about the right size to sandwitch between the cpu and heat sync  :)    they eat a little bit of +12 volt power but can hard freeze the cpu if you want.
[06:57] <lennox`> also one more question
[06:57] <lennox`> can i use oss instead of alsa?
[06:57] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  yea, that sounds better.  I've got 9 systems running through an old 450Mhz system thats running a firewall.
[06:57] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  would you mind showing me your file ?   or take out sensitive stuff?
[06:57] <lennox`> for some reason i cant get my sound card to work in alsa
[06:58] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  my laptop is dead.  I cooked the CPU in an overclocking experment.  I'm currently getting it fixed.  I should go though.  my fiance is ready for bed.
[06:58] <eric_> I'm not able to play a wmv file, what am I missing
[06:58] <garry> Hmm, alsa is supposed to have oss emulation modes.
[06:58] <Shadyman> Where is the source installed?
[06:58] <bob_4_a_day> lennox` if you can't get it to work with alsa, what makes you think it will for oss ?
[06:58] <Shadyman> !restrictedfiles
[06:58] <ubotu> Shadyman: No idea
[06:58] <Shadyman> !wmv
[06:58] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:59] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  before you go..
[06:59] <Shadyman> eric_: See that site.
[06:59] <h4x> bob_4_a_day: NSSB's?
[06:59] <mcjerry> Jeeves_moss I have the January 2006 issue is it in December? anyway i have ubuntu running 800x600 and when i try to go full screen with the knoppix virtual machine i get this > Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.
[06:59] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  there's an example on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:59] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, cool - I was unsure about the fact the PPPoE goes thru the same NIC and hub that the other PCs go to.  But in the end the PPPoE dialer/client gets its own IP and Subnet from the ISP's DHCP server
[06:59] <lennox`> bob: because it works in slack 10.2 using oss
[06:59] <eric_> ok thanks
[06:59] <Jeeves_moss> rabbit:  make it quick.  I can't keep my woman waiting.
[06:59] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  under  " Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces "
[06:59] <bob_4_a_day> h4x nuclear sub
[06:59] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, smart man! :-)
[06:59] <mcjerry> Jeeves_moss: i have xorg.conf but do not know what to put where...
[06:59] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:   like that?  except I don't need that script eh?
[06:59] <Shadyman> Where does the kernel source get installed?
[06:59] <h4x> lmao
[06:59] <jcpenny> how do i mount a floppy drive using an ubuntu-livecd
[07:00] <tuv> something is wrong with my framebuffer.. the system boots with a very small console space in the middle of the screen (as if the screen has margins) and i have to console terminals (tty1... tty6)
[07:00] <bob_4_a_day> lennox` and wouldn't on slack 10 with alsa ?
[07:00] <lennox`> nope
[07:00] <lennox`> i dont know whats up
[07:00] <lennox`> its a fairly common card
[07:00] <lennox`> i dont see why it wont work
[07:00] <bob_4_a_day> well to answer you question yes you can use oss
[07:00] <tuv> with a geforce vga card
[07:01] <tuv> X is working fine though
[07:01] <Jeeves_moss> nopea:  as long as your ISP's nic has its own IP (non internal to your network), and you have your internal network on a differn't subnet, then you should be fine.  The NAT preforms the netowrk hop (to the differen't subnet), so in theroy, if the "router" gets hacked, it'll take a while to get over to the other netowrk.  you need to make sure that if the router is compermised that its a "fail open" network connection.
[07:02] <lennox`> i'm going to have to search the ubuntu boards to see if anyone else has trouble with this sound card
[07:02] <Jeeves_moss> nopea, rabbit:  good night guys.  I'm going to hop into bed.  my Fiance is calling.  <evil grin>
[07:02] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  : S
[07:02] <nopea> Jeeves_moss, take care
[07:02] <Shadyman> *grin*
[07:02] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:  yeah thanks
[07:02] <rabbit> Jeeves_moss:   have fun, ha
[07:02] <Shadyman> have... fun
[07:03] <lennox`> i know im not the only one with a sb audigy ls
[07:03] <lennox`> ;p
[07:03] <jcpenny> how do i mount a floppy drive using an ubuntu-livecd
[07:03] <mcjerry> Jeeves_moss what issue is that article in
[07:03] <bob_4_a_day> jcpenny   mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[07:03] <lennox`> mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/fd1 i belieave
[07:04] <Jeeves_moss> mcjerry:  one sec.  its in my bathroom.
[07:05] <Jeeves_moss> mcjerry:  ok, sorry, its the "linux magazine", January 2005.  page 24
[07:06] <h4x> whats a good dvd player (software). I cant use ogle, becuase after the dvd plays the warning, do not prirate yadayada, ogle crashes, Any remedies, or New software recomendations?
[07:06] <lennox`> also, has anyone else had problems
[07:06] <lennox`> with the router that vonage gives you
[07:06] <gen> h4x, i like vlc
[07:06] <Jeeves_moss> ALL!:  'night every one!
[07:06] <lennox`> i opened up all my ports for torrents, and ssh
[07:06] <lennox`> and it still wont allow connections
[07:06] <mcjerry> Jeeves_moss: k, thanks, do you have any idea about the problem i have above?
[07:07] <garry> I had the same issue with bittorrents. Had to go to bittorinado to get it to work ok.
[07:07] <Shadyman> Uh, fun error now: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build; give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[07:07] <Shadyman> trying to use "make"
[07:08] <lennox`> is that referring to kde source?
[07:08] <bob_4_a_day> install kernel source cofe
[07:08] <bob_4_a_day> code
[07:08] <Shadyman> lennox`: It shouldn't be.
[07:08] <Shadyman> bob_4_a_day: I did.
[07:09] <bob_4_a_day> is it k7
[07:09] <h4x> where can i get vlc gen?
[07:09] <lennox`> vlc?
[07:09] <bob_4_a_day> you get out of my league there. i'm still just a 32 bit'er
[07:10] <lennox`> gimme one sed
[07:10] <lennox`> er se
[07:10] <lennox`> er sec
[07:10] <Shadyman> bob_4_a_day: Source code is platform independant.
[07:10] <garry> I was able to install kde, not using the source from the non-universe repository via synaptic. Only thing i had to do was modify the xorg.conf file to insert my monitor specs. Now I can use both.
[07:10] <lennox`> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[07:10] <lennox`> bob get it there
[07:10] <Shadyman> I'm trying to make ndiswrapper
[07:10] <gerald> does apt-get  install rpms?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses for a contact?
[07:11] <Shadyman> gerald: no.
[07:11] <bob_4_a_day> the address request was not.  so find where it put the source and give it the path Shadyman
[07:11] <ravv> gerald, no .deb
[07:11] <Madpilot> gerald: use .deb in Ubuntu
[07:11] <lennox`> er h4x, sorry bob
[07:11] <lennox`> got confused as to who asked for the link
[07:12] <marc_> Hello Ladies and Gents
[07:12] <bob_4_a_day> lennox` why not use the repos for that ?
[07:12] <h4x> thanks lennox ;)
[07:12] <lennox`> repos?
[07:12] <bob_4_a_day> h4x it's in the repos use synaptic to install it
[07:13] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[07:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:13] <Shadyman> bob_4_a_day: Any idea what folder it's looking for?
[07:13] <bob_4_a_day> Shadyman no. sorry.
[07:13] <kaffeend> hiya all :)
[07:14] <Shadyman> hey
[07:14] <bob_4_a_day> Shadyman /usr/local/src/   or something like that.
[07:14] <kaffeend> I just came in to annoy crimsun with pesky questions :P
[07:14] <garry> hehe
[07:14] <kestas> what's the keyboard device node?
[07:15] <h4x> yay
[07:15] <Shadyman> bob_4_a_day: Heh, make -d made it work a bit more.
[07:15] <h4x> thanks bob_4_a_day
[07:16] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me what a .rpm file is please? I have 3 of them and I dunno how to install em :D
[07:16] <flungu> can anyone help me with a printer setup on ubuntu
[07:16] <bob_4_a_day> redhat package management  file.
[07:16] <flungu> please
[07:16] <flungu> ?
[07:17] <Madpilot> !printers
[07:17] <ubotu> well, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:17] <bob_4_a_day> what problem?
[07:17] <flungu> cannot start cups server
[07:17] <eric> I just installed the win32 codecs but my file still won't play, it's wmv asf file
[07:17] <bob_4_a_day> network running ?
[07:18] <dapimp53> What is the url for updating to Breezy?
[07:18] <dapimp53> someone posted it earlier and it helped but I need it again.
[07:18] <flungu> i added my Epson printer but when i try to print the system just hangs
[07:18] <bob_4_a_day> cups wont start with you let /etc/init.d/network run..... i don't like it but that's just the way it is.
[07:18] <bob_4_a_day> without ^
[07:18] <ravv> damip sudo /etc/apt/sources,list and change hoary to breezy
[07:18] <ravv> damip sudo nano
[07:18] <Madpilot> dapimp53: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:19] <dapimp53> thanks madpilot
[07:19] <garry> Flungu I have the same issue with an all in one printer epson styluc CX6600. None of the drivers work. It hangs half way through too.
[07:20] <flungu> i have a CX 3200 but i don't think it's the drivers
[07:20] <eric> can anyone advise me on playing a wmv asf file, I've already installed the win32 codecs but the file won't play
[07:20] <bob_4_a_day> deside to go slumming crimsun ?
[07:20] <flungu> sometimes it just works but this time every program that i try to print from freezes
[07:20] <alvanson> I am trying to install ubuntu 5.10, but every time I run the install, it fails on linux-i386.  Looking at the logs, there is apparently a MD5Sum mismatch for nvidia-kernel-common.  Checking the CD's integrity gives nothing wrong with it
[07:20] <kaffeend> Q: What do I do with a .rpm file?
[07:21] <alvanson> Any way to fix?  Is this a known problem?
[07:21] <alvanson> or is there a way to netinstall?
[07:21] <WebLOCH> kaffeend, in ubuntu, you generally look for a deb instead, or try Alien
[07:21] <WebLOCH> kaffeend, type "man alien" at the console
[07:21] <bob_4_a_day> kaffeend nothing if you can find a .deb of the same crap.
[07:21] <kaffeend> okies
[07:21] <flungu> does anyone know how to restart the cups server
[07:21] <flungu> ?
[07:21] <kaffeend> there were only source files as an alternative :s
[07:22] <bob_4_a_day> kaffeend what is this rpm anyway ?
[07:22] <kaffeend> OpenAL
[07:22] <kaffeend> and a couple of dependencies for a game
[07:22] <bob_4_a_day> flungu 'sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart '
[07:22] <flungu> thanks
[07:22] <garry> red hat packet module or somethign like that. There is a program that you use to install rpm packages.
[07:23] <DjDarkman> hy ,who can help me with skype over ubuntu?
[07:23] <bob_4_a_day> !info openal
[07:23] <hal> somebody who speak portuguese?!
[07:23] <gerald> what package do I need to install for this command:  dpkg-buildpackage
[07:23] <kaffeend> WebLOCH and bob_4_a_day I deleted them - it doesn't matter :D thanks tho
[07:23] <hal> somebody help me installin' some programs!
[07:23] <bob_4_a_day> kaffeend do a 'apt-cache search openal '
[07:24] <DjDarkman> hal, what programz do you want 2 install?
[07:24] <linux_galore> I was just wondering, Ive got a previous install of Linux using the XFS file system, can I keep /home and reformat the other partitions and still use XFS
[07:24] <kaffeend> bob_4_a_day - will do ;)
[07:24] <hal> djdarkman aMSN and WINE....
[07:24] <alvanson> a search on google is not turning anything up :@
[07:25] <DjDarkman> hal, w8 please
[07:25] <rizo> is there a module that take cares of the keyboard? i want to try unloading it if one exsists and see if it resolves my lag issues after resuming from suspend-to-ram
[07:25] <garry> Wine is in the synaptic universe repository.
[07:25] <Madpilot> alvanson: is this a pressed CD or a burned one?
[07:25] <bob_4_a_day> linux_galore i don't see why not
[07:25] <DjDarkman> hal u dont need msn
[07:25] <alvanson> Madpilot, pressed... from shipit
[07:25] <DjDarkman> hal u got gaim
[07:25] <kaffeend> bob_4_a_day - wow there's a lot there
[07:25] <WebLOCH> kaffeend, good lucks anyway boy
[07:25] <hal> and i'm tryin' open my files from the other part of the hd, where my windows is instaled, but i'm keepin' beeing denied!
[07:26] <linux_galore> I wonder is the ubuntu install has a "use existing partitions" option
[07:26] <Madpilot> alvanson: have you tried another CD? They usually ship you a bunch...
[07:26] <linux_galore> if*
[07:26] <kaffeend> WebLOCH Thanks :D
[07:26] <alvanson> Madpilot, I shall, but this first one verifies
[07:26] <bob_4_a_day> yes and 6 100% matches kaffeend
[07:26] <hal> djdarkman that i discovered a few minutes ago, i just can't install any program =\
[07:26] <bob_4_a_day> libopenal-dev ;; libopenal0 ;; libopenalpp-cvs-dev ;; libopenalpp-cvsc2 ;; openalpp-cvs-doc ;; python-openal
[07:26] <kaffeend> bob_4_a_day - haha - correctamundo
[07:27] <Madpilot> hal: what are you trying to install, and from where?
[07:27] <linux_galore> hal: is it xp or win2k
[07:27] <alvanson> hmm... can't find the other 4
[07:27] <DjDarkman> somebody uses skype here?
[07:27] <hal> it's xp.....i just can't open it from the ubuntu...
[07:27] <kaffeend> going for python
[07:27] <hal> i'm tryin' to install wine
[07:27] <bob_4_a_day> kaffeend not bad for a guy that don't use ubuntu eeh ?
[07:27] <linux_galore> hal: ??
[07:28] <DjDarkman> hal, needs to enable the repositories i think
[07:28] <Madpilot> hal: you don't need an XP install to use or isntall wine
[07:28] <hal> i'll try some more and reboot...
[07:28] <djtansey> i am trying to install ubuntu from a flash card. I am able to mount it after the install image boots, but it still insists that I "Detect CDROM." but it isn't a cdrom... how can i get it to just install from the uncompressed iso i have on /dev/hdc1 ?
[07:28] <linux_galore> hal: I use an app called captive it allows Linux to view the windows NTFS partiton
[07:28] <kaffeend> bob_4_a_day - get out! Tresspasser! :P
[07:28] <kaffeend> !police
[07:28] <ubotu> kaffeend: Are you smoking crack?
[07:28] <kaffeend> lol
[07:29] <DjDarkman> man nobody uses skype here?
[07:29] <kaffeend> DjDarkman are you lonely?
[07:29] <kaffeend> DjDarkman: want someone to talk to?
[07:29] <kaffeend> :D
[07:30] <DjDarkman> kaffeend, yes someone ,who can help me make my skype work :P
[07:30] <kaffeend> have you tried #skype?
[07:30] <DjDarkman> nope
[07:30] <gerald> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create e xecutables
[07:31] <gerald> anyone know how to fix this compile error?
[07:31] <Madpilot> gerald: did you install build-essential?
[07:31] <gerald> dunno
[07:31] <gerald> gonna check
[07:31] <Madpilot> !b-e
[07:31] <ubotu> it has been said that b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:31] <DjDarkman> i cant even use my mircrophone and that`s the problem kaffeend
[07:31] <tuv> why would a ping to a local network address give "Destination Host Unreachable" (wifi)
[07:31] <linux_galore> tuv: no gateway was defined
[07:31] <intelikey> kaffeend bet that left ya wondering.....  :)
[07:32] <kaffeend> DjDarkman: neither can I
[07:32] <gerald> seems to be working now
[07:32] <linux_galore> tuv: no gateway it doesnt know how to get there
[07:32] <tuv> linux_galore: gateway is well configured. besides, it's a same-lan address so gateway is not needed anyway
[07:32] <kaffeend> intelikey - lol - I have my own problemos to keep me occupied
[07:32] <DjDarkman> why does my ubuntu use oss and alsa?
[07:33] <crimsun> DjDarkman: it uses ALSA by default, which means it uses ALSA's OSS emulation.
[07:33] <GTroy> hello everyone, how do you switch preferences for realplayer to play files from npr instead of mplayer?
[07:33] <intelikey> DjDarkman you mean it doesn't use  esd  also ?
[07:33] <linux_galore> tuv: check your firewall
[07:33] <DjDarkman> hmmm ,but why can`t i hear my microphone?
[07:34] <DjDarkman> intelikey, dunno
[07:34] <kaffeend> I don't suppose anyone here knows of a heightfield generator for linux?
[07:34] <tuv> linux_galore: i was able to ping the router.. after a few minutes i am not! after a reboot still unable!!
[07:34] <chalcedony> greetings
[07:34] <crimsun> DjDarkman: did you unmute the microphone?
[07:34] <DjDarkman> yes
[07:35] <DjDarkman> in every place
[07:35] <intelikey> DjDarkman muted ?    line0 slected for input in place of mic ?   without some info no way i can guess.
[07:35] <kaffeend> chalcedony aloha :)
[07:35] <chalcedony> who knows how i can tell which Ubuntu distribution my husband has in his computer?
[07:35] <crimsun> DjDarkman: some chipsets require you to unmute an analog loopback, too
[07:35] <delltony> hi have a question about partioning. i have windows on one partition and kubuntu on another i have 46 gig allocated to linux which i use the most but i need a little more space for windows abut another 10 gig so how can i resize the partition for linux so i can give to windows? I am trying to use gparted but for some reason the resize is grayed out.
[07:35] <crimsun> chalcedony: lsb_release -r
[07:35] <Shadyman> chalcedony: ask him?
[07:35] <DjDarkman> where can i find these options?
[07:35] <Shadyman> :)
[07:35] <chalcedony> Shadyman: he doesn't speak and doesn't remember.
[07:35] <chalcedony> ty though
[07:35] <Shadyman> Oh.
[07:35] <linux_galore> tuv: its simple either you have a hardware issue or you have a network issue, there is also the physical network issues ie your cable is stuffed
[07:35] <crimsun> DjDarkman: the Volume Control applet, for instance, or ``alsamixer'' from the cli
[07:36] <linux_galore> tuv: have you run ifconfig and checked to make sure everything is there
[07:37] <DjDarkman> line in mode: line in ,mic mode: mic in
[07:37] <tuv> linux_galore: you can rule out the cable thing since it is a wireless network. ifconfig if fine too.
[07:37] <DjDarkman> i enabled all switches
[07:37] <tuv> linux_galore: the point is that it was working and suddenly it stopped
[07:37] <linux_galore> tuv: ping the router and look at the port traffic indicator
[07:37] <alvanson> Madpilot, hmm... was a bad CD.  yet it tested fine... odd
[07:37] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone again
[07:38] <linux_galore> tuv: on the router
[07:38] <Inf3ctedFx> well I think my webcam doesnt love me anymore lol
[07:38] <tuv> linux_galore: to be exact i was downloading updates and the download stopped it the middle and the network was out.. hasn't been back since
[07:38] <DjDarkman> whats next?it still doesn`t work
[07:38] <Brunellus> where does rhythymbox keep its config files?
[07:38] <Inf3ctedFx> someone has an idea on webcams working under linux?
[07:39] <gerald> anyone know how to fix this compile error
[07:39] <gerald> configure: error: no X support found.  Use --x-includes and --x-libraries to spe cify the X
[07:39] <linux_galore> Inf3ctedFx: sure do
[07:40] <chalcedony>  does release 5.10 have a name?
[07:40] <Myrtti> breezy
[07:40] <crimsun> chalcedony: "Breezy Badger"
[07:40] <dapimp53> Does anyone know if in the Breezy release if they fixed the problem where the touchpads dont work on laptops?
[07:40] <Shadyman> chalcedony: BReezy Badger
[07:40] <chalcedony> also.. hmm terminals in color!
[07:40] <chalcedony> ty :)
[07:40] <jack_daniel298> jhfk
[07:40] <Shadyman> dapimp53: Synaptics Touchpads work just fune
[07:40] <Inf3ctedFx> linux_galore: I hava an intel cs110 webcam and everytime I want to use it.. it freeze on me the pc
[07:40] <crimsun> gerald: you need libx11-dev, among others.
[07:40] <dapimp53> I think its alps that I have
[07:40] <dapimp53> that is the normal one right?
[07:40] <dapimp53> well more common
[07:41] <crimsun> gerald: if you're unsure, you can use the (deprecated) transitional package, 'xlibs-dev'
[07:41] <Inf3ctedFx> so linux_galore  I dont know if is the driver or something am I doing qrong
[07:41] <linux_galore> Inf3ctedFx: did you check to make sure that camera is supported
[07:41] <Inf3ctedFx> well not really linux_galore  how can I check that? on internet?
[07:41] <linux_galore> Inf3ctedFx:  www.google.com/linux
[07:41] <Inf3ctedFx> ok, let me check linux_galore
[07:42] <linux_galore> just punch in the make model and see what it spits out
[07:43] <intelikey> oh my this may crash.....!
[07:43] <Shadyman> yep
[07:43] <intelikey> we need more power mr. scott !
[07:43] <jack_daniel298> jh
[07:43] <Shadyman> It says Ubuntu already has the ndiswrapper modules... Where?
[07:44] <Shadyman> !ndiswraper
[07:44] <ubotu> No idea, Shadyman
[07:44] <Shadyman> !ndiswrapper
[07:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:44] <method> Shadyman, ndiswrapper-utils
[07:44] <Shadyman> method: Thx
[07:44] <method> And it works.
[07:45] <method> Just a bitch.
[07:45] <Shadyman> yep
[07:45] <Shadyman> and here i am trying to compile the freakin thing.
[07:45] <Shadyman> ROFL
[07:45] <intelikey> ENGIN ROOM REPORT !
[07:45] <method> Yeah, don't do that.
[07:45] <method> :)
[07:45] <intelikey> well we've lost our warp drive.
[07:47] <linux_galore> I have a portable home brew Linksys WRT56GS router so I dont have to worry about ndiswrapper and also I have my own portable subnet so people can share with me on the fly
[07:47] <linux_galore> sorry this gives me my own portable subnet*
[07:48] <Marc\> How is everyone today?
[07:48] <Inf3ctedFx> well linux_galore  nope is not support it  DANM it  lol
[07:48] <hydroksyde> anyone have a photo of an ubuntu CD?
[07:48] <garry> Braindead from the flu myself. ;;|
[07:48] <sls> does UBUNTU support MTP devices
[07:48] <sls> >
[07:48] <sls> ?
[07:48] <linux_galore> Inf3ctedFx: yeah always wise to check first before you buy
[07:48] <Marc\> The flu? Ouch - how bad is it garru?
[07:48] <paulproteus|lapt> Marc\: Pretty good, thanks. (-:
[07:48] <Marc\> Garry*
[07:48] <intelikey> !mtp
[07:48] <ubotu> intelikey: Wish i knew
[07:49] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the problems linux_galore  this camera was with me for about 3 years already lol
[07:49] <Shadyman> and now for wpa of goodness on ndiswrapper :P
[07:49] <Actitud> hi
[07:49] <cristophine> hi
[07:49] <sls> does UBUNTU support MTP devices like MP3 players?
[07:49] <hydroksyde> sls, yes
[07:49] <garry> Not bad, just annoying - I got hose nose, no amount of meds will stop the runny nose.
[07:49] <hydroksyde> sls, you should be able to just plug it in, and it will go
[07:49] <cristophine> I'm having problems accessing my windows fat partition from my user account
[07:50] <cristophine> chown and chmod dont seem to work
[07:50] <Madpilot> hydroksyde: check flickr - lots of Ubuntu photos there
[07:50] <hydroksyde> cristophine, can you access it as root?
[07:50] <sls> hydroksyde: i have tried that with my Samsung YP-T7 and nothing happens
[07:50] <cristophine> yup
[07:50] <intelikey> so what is MTP ?
[07:50] <sls> I can see it in the device manager
[07:50] <hydroksyde> sls, open up a terminal and type dmesg. see if there are any related messages.
[07:50] <sls> Media Transfer Protocol
[07:51] <garry> Try System/Administration/Disks and you can use it to gain access usually.
[07:51] <Marc\> Anyone here game with Ubuntu? I been playing around with Cedega and wanted to know if anyone had any tips.
[07:51] <intelikey> cristophine fat or ntfs ?
[07:51] <cristophine> fat
[07:51] <hydroksyde> cristophine, can you open your /etc/fstab and tell us the line for this particular partition?
[07:52] <sls> [4643469.537000]  usb 5-5: USB disconnect, address 11
[07:52] <sls> [4643482.203000]  usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12
[07:52] <cristophine> will do
[07:52] <sls> hydroksyde: that is wat shows up
[07:52] <hydroksyde> sls, do MTP devices work like USB drives?
[07:52] <Myrtti> tell it on pastebin
[07:52] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[07:52] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:52] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/disk -o umask=0         cristophine  where hda9  is the partition and /mnt/disk is an empty directory.
[07:52] <hydroksyde> Myrtti, shouls only be one line
[07:52] <sls> hydroksyde: and I can see the device in device manager
[07:52] <sls> hydroksyde: but i do not know how to mount it...
[07:53] <cristophine> /dev/hdb1       /windows        vfat    quiet           0       0
[07:53] <sls> hydroksyde: they are supposed to work like mass storeage devices
[07:53] <Madpilot> hydroksyde: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/ubuntu/?page=3
[07:53] <linux_galore> hydroksyde: yes you just need a client for the device and libnjb installed
[07:53] <hydroksyde> sls, do you have another MSD that works?
[07:53] <sls> hydroksyde: on windows i show up like a camera or disk would in explorer
[07:54] <intelikey> ok cristophine make that defaults,umask=0   in place of quiet   and you'r set.
[07:54] <sls> hydroksyde: yes i do --- SD Cards and a USB thumb drive
[07:54] <hydroksyde> sls, yeah, they should appear on the desktop automatically in ubuntu
[07:54] <hydroksyde> my USB drive does
[07:54] <sls> hydroksyde: SD Cards do and all other devices but not this one.
[07:54] <linux_galore> hydroksyde: whats the device
[07:55] <hydroksyde> linux_galore, what do you mean?
[07:55] <sls> linux_galore: it is a samsung YP-T7 MP3 player
[07:55] <cristophine> thx :)
[07:55] <linux_galore> sls: aah yeah they work fine
[07:55] <buntus> anyone want to install php for me 2moro for $10 ?
[07:55] <linux_galore> the whole Samsung YP media series Ive found work great
[07:56] <tuv> this is the strangest thing i've ever seen. once i reboot the network is ok.. few minutes after i login to gnome pings to the local network return "Destination Host Untreachable".. what's happening??? using ipw2200 1.0.8 with wpa_supplicant WPA2 CCMP
[07:56] <sls> linux_galore: how?!?!
[07:56] <linux_galore> sls: just plug it in and there it is
[07:56] <hydroksyde> sls, it should appear on the gnome desktop
[07:56] <intelikey> cristophine after you edit your fstab  just issue a 'sudo -o remount /windows '
[07:56] <linux_galore> sls: should see an icon on the desktop
[07:56] <sls> linux_galore: that is what i was expecting...
[07:57] <sls> linux_galore: nothing there...
[07:57] <hydroksyde> sls, unless support is enabled in your kernel, or hal is broken
[07:57] <DjDarkman> man nobody knows how to make my microphone workin?
[07:57] <linux_galore> sls: Ive got a 128mb YP-## mp3 player it just shows up
[07:57] <buntus> $10 paypal for anyone who can get apache working with php :)
[07:57] <hydroksyde> buntus, sure
[07:57] <sls> this is a 512 MB player -- rather new...
[07:57] <buntus> but hydroksyde can u do it for me in the morning ?
[07:58] <buntus> ill take ur address ill even pay u before u start
[07:58] <hydroksyde> i suppose
[07:58] <buntus> ok u in here ? or msn ?
[07:58] <sls> linux_galore: the older ones are just like pen drives...
[07:58] <timfrost> xhristophine, if you add "user" to the options (3rd field) then you shouild not need to use root/sudo to mount the FAT partition
[07:58] <hydroksyde> buntus, pm
[07:58] <buntus> sure
[07:59] <linux_galore> sls: always look the device up on www.google.com/linux see if there are any issues, the Zen Touch uses MTP
[07:59] <GoRoDeK> how to extract files from *.iso image using console?
[07:59] <sls> linux_galore: searching...
[07:59] <intelikey> GoRoDeK mount it
[07:59] <linux_galore> sls: If I plug in the zen touch nothing happens so I installed gnomad2 and libnjb
[08:00] <GoRoDeK> intelikey, only user and not allowed to mount ;(
[08:00] <erah> hey, how's it going?
[08:00] <intelikey> GoRoDeK 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /dir '    where file is the file name and dir is and empty dir.
[08:01] <pilgrim> Hi all. How come the 3d cool looking screensavers don't work in my machine (i.e. they're really slow).
[08:01] <cristophine> @ intelikey: it didnt work
[08:02] <intelikey> that's kinda broad. cristophine care to post the error for me.
[08:02] <cristophine> well, no error
[08:02] <cristophine> the remount went through
[08:02] <intelikey> and ?
[08:02] <sls> linux_galore: what is gnomad?
[08:02] <cristophine> but i still cant change permissions on the file
[08:02] <GoRoDeK> intelikey, i'm only a user and have no admin rights, so sudo will also not work for me ;(
[08:02] <crimsun> cristophine: you have to ``sudo modprobe loop'' first if it's not loaded, and you don't have to pass -t
[08:02] <intelikey> you sure can't.  and never will be able to on vfat
[08:03] <intelikey> there is no permissions bit on vfat
[08:03] <cristophine> ic
[08:04] <cristophine> so, is there any way for me to send stuff to my windows partition without being root?
[08:04] <intelikey> crimsun that's GoRoDeK not cristophine
[08:05] <intelikey> GoRoDeK unless you can mount it.  i don't think you can get files out of it.
[08:05] <erah> can't you just add umask=000 to your fstab?
[08:05] <crimsun> intelikey: yeah, thanks.
[08:05] <intelikey> cristophine yes.  you should be able to write there now.
[08:05] <sls> linux_galore: o I apt-get ed it... it sees "no jukebox"
[08:05] <GoRoDeK> intelikey, ok thx for your help... i hopefully will find another way :)
[08:05] <intelikey> but you can not set permissions. there are none.
[08:06] <gerald> i can't seem to find imlib2 in apt-cache and I"m getting this compile error
[08:06] <gerald> /bin/sh: imlib2-config: command not found
[08:06] <gerald> /bin/sh: imlib2-config: command not found
[08:06] <cristophine> ic
[08:06] <intelikey> GoRoDeK maybe pmount   but i don't know
[08:06] <crimsun> gerald: install libimlib2-dev
[08:06] <linux_galore> sls: what are you using as a client
[08:06] <tuv> how come wpa_supplicant associates to a wpa2 network without loading the ieee80211_crypt_tkip or ieee80211_crypt_ccmp kernel modules?
[08:07] <sls> linux_galore: gnomad2...
[08:07] <linux_galore> sls: gnomad2 is for the zen touch
[08:07] <sls> linux_galore: do I have to do somethin besides installing it with apt?
[08:07] <davide> hello i am looking for help with setting ddclient
[08:07] <sls> ok
[08:07] <gerald> i'll try that
[08:07] <linux_galore> sls: I would say you have some weird type of playlist that specific to that player same as the zen touch, you need to find a client that works with that playlist
[08:08] <davide> i have a linksys router and ddclient is unable to get the ip address
[08:08] <intelikey> GoRoDeK the system admin can edit sudoers to allow all user to run special commands like mount and umount   with sudo and not give them full access  you can mention that to the sysadmin
[08:08] <benoy> can anyone tell me where I can find the latest "sources.list" file?
[08:08] <sls> linux_galore: the samsung does not use play lists like that... there is a music folder on it and you jus copy what you want to it...
[08:08] <DjDarkman> kmix rulez!! :)
[08:09] <sls> linux_galore: in windows that is...
[08:09] <intelikey> !repos
[08:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:09] <linux_galore> sls: also to get gnomad2 working you have to reboot with the player "plugged in" then run gnomad2
[08:09] <erah> could anyone give me any insight to running full-screen applications restricted to one monitor in a dual-head environment?
[08:09] <SweetestSavage> !rar
[08:09] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[08:10] <sls> linux_galore: what i really need is to be able to mount a USB MTP device...
[08:10] <pilgrim> how do I enable 3d acceleartion for my video card (ati radeon 9700)
[08:10] <paulproteus|lapt> sls: What's MTP?
[08:10] <linux_galore> sls: if you just plug in the player after you have booted then run gnomad2 nothing happens I found
[08:10] <sls> Must be new...
[08:10] <intelikey> yuch some body run that thing through tinyurl
[08:10] <linux_galore> paulproteus|lapt: Microsoft Media Transfer Protocol
[08:10] <paulproteus|lapt> linux_galore: Whoa, weird.
[08:10] <paulproteus|lapt> That sounds creepy.
[08:10] <linux_galore> it is
[08:11] <sls> paulproteus|lapt MTP = Media Transfer Protocol (the newer devices use it)
[08:11] <linux_galore> sls: yes and its "windows" specific
[08:11] <paulproteus|lapt> What about Mac OS?
[08:11] <linux_galore> sls: its not a open standard like PTP is with digicams
[08:11] <intelikey> looks like sh*t smells like.... musy be...
[08:12] <fr> guys, I never configured the cdrom after my install. I go to /media/cdrom0 and cdrom1 but media in cd doesn't appear there. How do I mount this or whatever?
[08:12] <linux_galore> fr: whats on the cd
[08:12] <sls> linux_galore: if that is true then that puts an end to MP3 devices for linux ... almost all the devices I saw this Xmas at Best Buy had the "play for sure" logo = mtp device
[08:12] <fr> linux_galore: its a data cd, just some docs
[08:13] <intelikey> fr 'sudo mount /media/cdrom '
[08:13] <Edu[NN] > hellos guys
[08:13] <intelikey> or 0/1 blah...
[08:13] <linux_galore> sls: no libnjb fixes that but you still need a client that works with the playlist because each maker has there own weird way of doing it
[08:13] <tuv> ok.. i found out the wpa_supplicant gets a Disconnect event and re-connect, after which point all pings are unreachable
[08:14] <marc_> Does anyone know how to make I-tunes work on Ubuntu?
[08:14] <fr> intelikey: i get this mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[08:14] <acetech> if i want to backup an entire drive using tar, would i simply type something like "tar -cvf /mnt/backup/backup.tgz /dev/hda", to backup the entire drive, including multiple partitions?
[08:14] <linux_galore> sls: MTP has been reverse engineered so its not a problem, what is the problem is how each player has its own weird playlist format
[08:14] <intelikey> fr figures.   that's udev for you.....
[08:15] <linux_galore> sls: reboot with the device plugged in and then run gnomad2 see what happens
[08:15] <fr> huh? don't know what udev is. how do i fix it?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> I seem unable to remove a directory.  When root does rmdir, it gives no error, but ls still shows it.
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> That's using the --ignore-fail-on-non-empty option.
[08:16] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: rmdir -R
[08:16] <fr> intelikey: can you elaborate plz?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, "Invalid option"
[08:17] <davide> anybody knows how to get information out of a linksys router??
[08:17] <intelikey> fr i don't know the 'right' way but sudo MAKEDEV cdrom   and edit the /etc/fstab  line that says /dev/hdc to say /dev/cdrom  will probably work.....  and i make no promices
[08:17] <Yomic> type 'router' in a browser
[08:17] <acetech> if i want to backup an entire drive using tar, would i simply type something like "tar -cvf /mnt/backup/backup.tgz /dev/hda", to backup the entire drive, including multiple partitions?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Now it's gone.
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Did rm -R, and then rmdir.
[08:18] <davide> tried already to find info on the web, but nothing useful
[08:18] <intelikey> acetech nope
[08:18] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: means you have a hidden directory in there
[08:18] <kyled> davide: have you tried typing 192.168.1.1 in your browser?
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Makes sense.  It was an obsolete user's home.
[08:19] <intelikey> acetech all the archive will have in it is one device inode  :)
[08:19] <intelikey> and it is probably a symlink lol
[08:19] <phreq> Hey, I've putting together a new box and I have some question's 'bout graphics hardware. :P
[08:19] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: -R just means recursive
[08:19] <phreq> Er. I'm.
[08:19] <davide> my problem is how to get from the router the ip address that sbc assign me to have ddclient update on dyndns
[08:19] <fr> intellikey: do i make one /dev/cdrom0 other /dev/cdrom1 right?
[08:19] <sikumkum> HIghoS, is there anyone got experiences with compiling the smp kernel on dual opteron ?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Right, I'd used it before with rm, but apparently rmdir doesn't use it.
[08:20] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: yeah think your right
[08:20] <intelikey> fr yes if the devices exist.   test with  'ls /dev/cdrom* '
[08:20] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I dont fush directories much
[08:20] <linux_galore> flush*
[08:20] <acetech> intelikey: what can I do to backup the entire drive in the event i need to restore the linux install
[08:20] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: my /home directory is a cvs rig lol
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, What's that?
[08:21] <fr> intelikey, mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist :/
[08:21] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: so if I delete or change anything I can wind it back
[08:21] <sikumkum> is there anyone got experiences with compiling the smp kernel on dual opteron ? my server always went crash with 2.6.12-smp
[08:21] <kaffeend|away> phreq -nvidia or ATi?
[08:21] <fr> intelikey, sorry mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[08:21] <acetech> intelikey, i would basicaly like to take my entire drive and copy it to another with the ability of doing incremental backups
[08:21] <phreq> HIghoS means... come to me. Both. I'm trying to decide between two different cards, both kind of low end.
[08:22] <intelikey> acetech first of all you will have to mount the partition/s some place then make a tarball of that directory.  but you also need to be in the dir unless you want problems restoring ....
[08:22] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: basically anything I change in /home ie delete or update if I need the old version of the file or the now deleted file I can quickly tell cvs to give me the old one back
[08:22] <phreq> One's a Radeon X300SE, the other a GeForce 6200TC.
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, That must tax your resources a bit.
[08:23] <DjDarkman> how can i control this emulated oss?
[08:23] <kaffeend|away> phreq hmmm... I reckon the ATi is the winner of those two - but that's just my opinion
[08:23] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: no I have a HUGE hardisk
[08:23] <phreq> Okay, it's got better reviews on NewEgg anyway. ;)
[08:24] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: more info -> http://linuxjournal.com/article/5976
[08:24] <intelikey> fr without loading ubuntu on this system and searching for the actual device  the best i can hope to do for you is guess.    fr do a 'sudo fdisk -l '   and see what the names of the hard drive devices are.
[08:24] <acetech> intelikey, so if is cd /, then tar -cvf /media/backup/backup.tar.gz /"  this will give me the backup file of the entire computer... will this do the /boot, mbr, and everything?
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Ah.  Just 40G here, with Ubuntu, WinXP, and the IBM Rescue and Restore partition.
[08:24] <kaffeend|away> phreq also I think that OpenGL is better suited to ATi
[08:24] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I dont keep files in cvs forever I let them be deleted after 120 days
[08:24] <DjDarkman> how can i control this emulated oss?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, (How huge?)
[08:25] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: two seagate 200Gb hardisks with only Linux installed
[08:25] <fr> intelikey: it just shows my 4 hard drives..
[08:25] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I hardly use 10% of the space so far
[08:25] <phreq> Okay, thanks.
[08:25] <kaffeend|away> phreq getting up to the higher end cards nVidia win hands down, tho ;)
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Wow.
[08:26] <phreq> I'm on a budget, or I would go. :P
[08:26] <kaffeend|away> cool
[08:26] <intelikey> acetech if you have partition to backup mounted on /media/backup   then do this  'cd /media/backup ;tar -czvf /address_to_storage_space/backup.tar.gz *
[08:26] <kaffeend|away> now I'll finish eating :D
[08:26] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I spend all my money on hardware, I dont dring or smoke so I save lots of money
[08:26] <linux_galore> drink*
[08:26] <intelikey> fr yes but are they /dev/hda?   and so on ?
[08:27] <phreq> Wait a minute, the wiki page says that AMD64 drivers currently aren't availble for Breezy.
[08:27] <fr> intelikey, yea there is hda and hdb, then my 2 sata's which showup improperly but thast another issue :)
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, I don't drink or smoke either.  Or work.  (Student here, I'm still paying FOR what I get up to do.)
[08:27] <kaffeend|away> phreq - go 1386
[08:27] <intelikey> fr ok.... that's no real help then.
[08:27] <phreq> Er, AMD64 drivers for ATI cards. But--- yeah.
[08:27] <kaffeend|away> i386*
[08:27] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: wont last, study hard travel lots and things will work out
[08:27] <phreq> Won't the 32bit code still exectue? :P
[08:28] <antoni_NT> hello everybody, remember me. Now I cannot acces NTFS volumes on my system, what's wrong, why only root can do that
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Sounds about right.
[08:28] <phreq> Perms, I'm guessing, Antoni.
[08:28] <kaffeend|away> I have a AMD64 and run ubuntu i386
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> antoni_NT, What's ls -l of the mount point in question say?
[08:28] <intelikey> fr maybe someone else can help you fine the device node that /dev/hdc should be pointing to.   or tell you how to make an /dev/hdc device node.
[08:29] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: you "must" do a 1Yr world trip, you will be piss poor most of the time but you meet heaps of people and get lots of memories and it helps you in life later because you know were people are coming from when dealing with them
[08:29] <kaffeend|away> phreq - I also run an ATi card
[08:29] <intelikey> ALL! help fr get a cd to mount.
[08:29] <antoni_NT> it can only be read by root, i want to change it but it says it read only disk, what changes I need in fstab
[08:30] <phreq> kaffeend|away - Awesome... even if I install the 64bit OS, the 32bit binary drivers will run fine, right?
[08:30] <ITSa341> I have tried every ATI how-to I can find and can't get my Radeon Mobility IGP 320 to work with 3d :-(
[08:30] <tuv> is ubuntu's wpasupplicant package in a good condition or is it just me?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, That does sound like fun.  I'm sort of easing into that, going to school in a neighboring country, and one with 12% of the student body international students, so I've already met lots of interesting people.
[08:30] <kaffeend|away> phreq - huh? I'm missing something
[08:30] <kaffeend|away> :s
[08:30] <intelikey> !ubotu tell antoni_NT about ntfs
[08:31] <linux_galore> antoni_NT: you need to install "captive" the NTFS module will only "read" not write or erase because Microsoft has released no or little information on NTFS and yes Microsoft changes NTFS with little or no warning
[08:31] <intelikey> antoni_NT the wiki might help with that.
[08:31] <kaffeend|away> why go 64 bit OS?
[08:31] <phreq> Why not? :P
[08:31] <kaffeend|away> coz it's crap imho
[08:31] <intelikey> why not 128 ?
[08:31] <linux_galore> antoni_NT: captive uses your "windows dll files" so it can read write and erase files
[08:32] <kaffeend|away> lol
[08:32] <linux_galore> kaffeend|away: your future proof, I asked the same in 1987, why go 32 bit
[08:32] <tuv> looks like no one is using wpa_supplicant around here :(
[08:32] <ITSa341> lol
[08:33] <intelikey> !captive
[08:33] <ubotu> well, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[08:33] <tuv> kaffeend|away: then design one!
[08:33] <intelikey> linux_galore ^
[08:33] <BoukenPink> Okay... I'm having a wee problem... Sometimes, my mouse seems to go a little bit crazy at times, just for a few seconds, and things will get opened and stuff and the mouse won't move where it's supposed to, but it'll go back to normal after just a small period of time.... :3 Anyone know what might cause that?
[08:33] <antoni_NT> I have changed the fstab in Ubuntu 5.04 and now I'mt trying Breezy and it automatically detect my partitions but the problems still exist, I always have to login to root just for playing my Queen of Hollywood
[08:33] <kaffeend|away> tuv - on it ;)
[08:33] <ITSa341> !Radeon
[08:33] <ubotu> ITSa341: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:33] <ITSa341> !ati
[08:33] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:33] <intelikey> i didn't write the wiki.
[08:35] <kaffeend|away> linux_galore: what do you mean "your future proof"?
[08:35] <linux_galore> kaffeend|away: 5 years anything 32 bit is going to be junk
[08:36] <kaffeend|away> true
[08:36] <antoni_NT> what is "captive", where should I install it?
[08:36] <kaffeend|away> but I already have my 64bit chip ;)
[08:36] <phreq> Which is why I'm buying a 64bit proc. :P
[08:36] <kaffeend|away> ah... I see now
[08:36] <linux_galore> kaffeend|away: 64 bit and you have a hope of surviving the next 8 years
[08:36] <kaffeend|away> phreq you getting 939s?
[08:36] <antoni_NT> my modem works on 14,4 kBps how to get it works at 56 kBps, I use the Linuxant driver
[08:37] <kaffeend|away> coz 754 is old school
[08:37] <phreq> Yeah, a 3200+, Venice.
[08:37] <linux_galore> kaffeend|away: to be honest 32 bit has a shelf life right now around 3 years
[08:37] <kaffeend|away> I'd give it less linux_galore
[08:37] <linux_galore> yeah 939 is fine
[08:37] <TerminX> anyone know if there's a fix for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16168
[08:37] <phreq> I'll share my wishlist on Newegg in a minute.
[08:37] <kaffeend|away> todays 939 is tomorrow's 754
[08:37] <linux_galore> kaffeend|away: well XP will be supported till 2010
[08:38] <kaffeend|away> what's xp? :D
[08:38] <phreq> I hate XP.
[08:38] <linux_galore> also Ubuntu from what i hear will have a 5 year support option so yep 5 years is about it
[08:38] <antoni_NT> me too (hate windows especially)
[08:38] <phreq> kaffeend|away - The beast from Redmond. You don't wanna know, really. ;)
[08:39] <linux_galore> yeah I have yet to install windows XP
[08:39] <kaffeend|away> lol
[08:39] <linux_galore> I stopped at win2k
[08:39] <antoni_NT> Ok I've to leave now thanks
[08:39] <phreq> This box dual boots into 98SE, but that's just for AoEII. ;)
[08:39] <intelikey> antoni_NT if the modem is 56k  and it connects at 14k it is probably a physical problem with the line service or your connections in your home.  possably too much crap connected to the phone line upstream the pc.
[08:40] <linux_galore> intelikey: no the Linuxant free driver is crippled to work at 14.4 you need the $$$ download version to get the full 56k
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> Mine dual boots WXP because that's the way they sold it to me.  Do I use that $300 or whatever it is?  No.
[08:40] <bor> q
[08:41] <intelikey> linux_galore sounds like M$'s bull snoot.
[08:41] <linux_galore> intelikey: or get the <cough> bittorrent <cough> version
[08:41] <phreq> I like the fact that Dell offers Linux workstations...
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, intelikey: Yeah, I'm using the Linuxant driver, and I did break down and cough up the $20.
[08:41] <phreq> I don't like it that they don't offer AMD processors. ;)
[08:41] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: its on BT you know
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Actually, I didn't.  But I don't really mind that one.
[08:42] <intelikey> linux_galore but line problems keep me at lower bit rate here.  my modem is a modem  not one of those damn WINmodems
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Out of curiosity though, where?
[08:42] <DjDarkman> how do i use alsa-oss?
[08:43] <phreq> I wiIt's not fun.
[08:43] <lorenzo> hello, how do i log on as root? i tried su but i havent created a password, i donno how, thanx
[08:43] <linux_galore> Im wondering if Ubuntu will use DMIX for sound like suse and mandrake and red hat are in the future releases
[08:43] <phreq> I hate dial-up, but it's the only thing I can get here in my hole. I was stuck with a Windmodem too for a while, but then I ripped a real modem from an old box.
[08:43] <DjDarkman> lorenzo, use sudo
[08:43] <phreq> lorenzo: sudo
[08:43] <intelikey> lorenzo sudo -
[08:43] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: hold on
[08:44] <kaffeend|away> back in the days of Hoary I had Ubuntu64 and man, was it fast - but anyone who remembers the trouble I was having with that setup will confirm that the 32 bit vers is better
[08:44] <lorenzo> ok thanx :D
[08:44] <Madpilot> !root
[08:44] <kaffeend|away> guess that post was a bit late :s
[08:44] <ITSa341> lorenzo   sudo is safer, ask me I learned the hard way
[08:44] <phreq> Every tried it on a Mac proc?
[08:44] <summerwinter> can somebody help me. I have a pocket pc. I have synced it with 2 computers already. I need to delete one of them if i want to sync with  a 3rd computer. What do you call this? It's not called "account". What's the word? Please help.
[08:44] <phreq> Er. Ever*
[08:45] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: whats the official driver name
[08:45] <Madpilot> !tell lorenzo about root
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Something along the lines of Linuxant HSF softmodem driver.
[08:45] <intelikey> ITSa341 your user password is more secure than your root password was when you learned the hard way ?
[08:45] <thick-glasses> can anyone suggest a good mp3 server for linux?
[08:45] <n0dl> when i run cdrecord it tells me cannot fixate disk
[08:45] <ITSa341> Has anyone here got the Radeon Mobility IGP 320 to work with 3d acceleration?
[08:45] <BoukenPink> Oooh... Frostwire...
[08:45] <n0dl> how do i fx this error?
[08:46] <thick-glasses> ITSa341: have you tried fgl_gears?
[08:46] <ITSa341> thick  yup works fine in 2d but not 3d
[08:47] <ITSa341> trying to run cedega but it keeps failing the 3d test
[08:47] <thick-glasses> ITSa341: did you install the fglrx drivers?
[08:47] <ITSa341> yup
[08:48] <phreq> My glxgears gets 24FPS. :P
[08:48] <thick-glasses> and change your xorg drivers?
[08:48] <ITSa341> but, when I try to load them the gui fails to start on boot
[08:48] <thick-glasses> hmm
[08:48] <kaffeend|away> my glxgears is around 2300 fps :P
[08:48] <phreq> My box is affectionanetly named POS. :P
[08:48] <ITSa341> thick  yup, good thing I remember a few command line opotions   :-)
[08:48] <ITSa341> options **
[08:48] <kaffeend|away> nice name phreq
[08:49] <phreq> Or peanutbutter. Either or, really, depends on my mood.
[08:49] <intelikey> phreq what's the cheet code for food in AoE2 ?
[08:49] <phreq> intelikey I have no idea.
[08:49] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[08:49] <phreq> It's an old Packard Bell. :'(
[08:49] <thick-glasses> damn, ATI drivers need some maturing to do
[08:49] <phreq> Intelikey I don't like to use the cheats.
[08:50] <intelikey> well that's the only one i never heard.
[08:50] <phreq> How do I start this thing? gives you a Cobra.
[08:50] <intelikey> yeah
[08:50] <ITSa341> thick  I tried the driver download from ATI   LOL   back to command line for a minute    thank goodnes I backed up my xorg.conf
[08:50] <intelikey> or is it 'how do you turn this on'
[08:51] <phreq> I'm not sure...
[08:51] <kaffeend|away> try fglrxgears phreq
[08:51] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: here we go -> http://hsf.szm.sk/
[08:51] <ITSa341> I have managed to get almost everything I need working in a hurry with ubuntu. I guess I can live without 3d if I have to but then I would have to do my gaming from my office comp.
[08:52] <Doomdiver> What program should ill use to burn Ubunto DVD 5.1? DVD decrypter cant and Nero just burn a unreadable / none bootable DVD. are there any .cue files for the .iso ?
[08:52] <ITSa341> office comp has nVidia agp card :-)
[08:52] <phreq> I haven't got Ubuntu to work with this box yet, actually. ;)
[08:52] <phreq> kaffeend|away: Don't have the program.
[08:52] <ITSa341> I was very impressed when the 802.11 worked with no hassles, just insert wep key and it connected rock solid
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Huh, interesting.  And oddly enough, I even know someone who can read the Slovensky directions.  (Yes, I did notice the English link, eventually.)
[08:53] <faisal_d> morning all
[08:53] <kaffeend|away> it's the ATi driver thingy
[08:53] <n0dl> how can i fix a fixate disk error with cdrecord?
[08:53] <phreq> Ah, okay.
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses with a contact?  (It shows E-mail and Additional E-mail only right now.)
[08:54] <ITSa341> I must say, the codecs took me a few minutes to figure out so I could play my dvds on this.
[08:54] <phreq> Well, my problem is that my hard drives keep failing and GNOME really taxes this machine.
[08:54] <ITSa341> Oh, and still can't play .wmv files :-(
[08:55] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: use Evolution for multiple accounts, I found Thunderbird a bit lightweight for email
[08:55] <intelikey> ITSa341 did you try vlc
[08:55] <phreq> I'm played with the Ubuntu LiveCDs though, and I really like the feel of it. It's not as bloated as Fedora c3 either.
[08:55] <kaffeend|away> ITSa341 - I can ;)
[08:55] <kd> Hi,everyone,anyone here uses fvwm ,Can you send your config file and icon to me
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, I have it working for multiple accounts for me; I meant storing other people's in the address book.
[08:56] <ITSa341> intelikey   I played with it but will have to try again, that was after a few daquirritas  ( margarita mix with BOTH rum and tequilla )
[08:56] <ITSa341> ok  more than a few
[08:57] <ITSa341> <-- was feelin gooooood
[08:58] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: try getting it to work with your MSN account
[08:58] <phreq> SATA I = SATA150 or Sata 3Gb/s ?
[08:59] <ITSa341> I have a question about Evolution. Will it work with MSN and Yahoo like Thunderbird will? Without paying for pop access??
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore, Don't have MSN.  Earthlink, Bell Sympatico (which uses MSN mail, and works perfectly), and two university IMAPs.
[09:00] <Kovecses> what is the difference beween debian sid and ubuntu??
[09:00] <_jeff> hey guys
[09:01] <ITSa341> Hi Jeff
[09:01] <_jeff> does anyone here hate compiling from source as much as i do?
[09:01] <ITSa341> <---
[09:01] <phreq> DDepends on the program.
[09:01] <Amaranth> _jeff: Yep, that's why if Ubuntu doesn't have it I don't need it.
[09:01] <vanden> Hi all. New to ubuntu and linux. I installed ubuntu breezy, but also put on kbunutu desktop, so I could see what I liked bw KDE/Gnome.
[09:01] <vanden> Today, trying to tace down a hardware problem, I booted up with Knoppix 4.0. It changed my screen that shows the loading process from the ubuntu one to the kbununtu one. That seems rude :-)  I've no idea how to fix that. What would I need to look into?
[09:03] <ITSa341> <-- sort of new to linux also.
[09:03] <vanden> ITSa341: Is it working out well for you?
[09:03] <Kovecses> _jeff: dont use gentoo then
[09:03] <ITSa341> I have used linux for years for routers and firewalls.
[09:03] <ITSa341> I have a smoothwall router/firewall that hasn't been rebooted in 3 yrs
[09:04] <vanden> ITSa341: I've used it for > week after one two many windows failings :-)
[09:04] <vanden> too many
[09:04] <Shadowpillar> anyone here have an ivtv based tv card?
[09:04] <ITSa341> vanden  I also used Linspire for a couple years.
[09:04] <_jeff> amaranth: yeah but im trying to get more plugins for giFT
[09:04] <Kovecses> linspire....... oh no
[09:04] <Kovecses> what is the difference beween debian sid and ubuntu??
[09:05] <ITSa341> I like windows. I get paid $65.00/hour to remove virus and spyware
[09:05] <vanden> ITSa341: I'd tried a few times over the years, but laptop issues always got in the way. Still are, but now I'm *determined*
[09:05] <_jeff> amaranth: and sometimes you have no choice but to attempt a source compilation
[09:05] <Amaranth> Kovecses: ubuntu is focused on the desktop and has newer versions of Xorg, GNOME, and KDE.
[09:05] <_jeff> kovecses: im not using gentoo
[09:05] <ITSa341> Kov   say what ya want, but I had nothing but great luck with Linspire
[09:05] <Kovecses> Amaranth: sid has the same versions of gnome and kde
[09:06] <Kovecses> Amaranth: and xorg
[09:06] <Amaranth> sid doesn't have gnome 2.12
[09:06] <Amaranth> experimental has gnome 2.12
[09:06] <Amaranth> based on ubuntu packages, iirc
[09:06] <michael> can someone help me ples
[09:06] <gerald> what package do i need to install to stream videos on firefox/
[09:06] <Amaranth> Kovecses: And the X packages are from Ubuntu too.
[09:06] <_jeff> does anyone know the command to run a package search in the terminal?
[09:06] <Kovecses> what does iirc mean?
[09:06] <Amaranth> Kovecses: If I Remember Correcly
[09:07] <_jeff> gerald: i would get mplayer-mozilla
[09:07] <Kovecses> Amaranth: thanks
[09:07] <Shadowpillar> anyone here had to deal with an IVTV driver based card?
[09:07] <intelikey> considering that i can run a linux system from a floppy disk (two disks actually) that has networking,  i consider the ub base system of 280+ mb   just a bit bloated.
[09:07] <ITSa341> I even sold about 75 comps with Linspire preloaded ( yes, I paid for the Linspire OEM installer mambership and did their cert tests on the comps ) and at least 50 of those are still running Linspire exclusively with few if any problems
[09:07] <Kovecses> Amaranth: so if i install ubuntu.... should i get ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:07] <michael> mmm i was able to dual boot win xp and ubuntu, but now when i have win xp installed then suddenly try to install ubuntu, i try to resize it, and the min is 512 B now i only have 80Gb hdd, i only want 10 Gb for ubunut, someone help
[09:07] <vanden> michael: I'm very new here too, but just jump in and ask your question :-)
[09:07] <Amaranth> Kovecses: Do you like GNOME or KDE?
[09:08] <sampan> _jeff, apt-cache search search-string (searches for packages with that string in their name/description) .... or apt-cache show package-name  (to show info about a specific pkg)
[09:08] <michael> its strange that i cant re-size a partition for ubuntu thats 10GB
[09:08] <Kovecses> Amaranth: i dont know ..... i havent used linux in a long time
[09:08] <landotter> gerald, the totem plugin if powered by totem-xine plays about 80% of embedded streaming vids for me.
[09:08] <michael> look at the above question, brb dinner
[09:08] <_jeff> sampan: ok thanks man
[09:08] <paulproteus|lapt> Kovecses: I recommend Ubuntu over Kubuntu.
[09:08] <_jeff> sampan: im gonna try that now
[09:08] <intelikey> Kovecses xubuntu
[09:08] <Amaranth> Kovecses: In here you'll get GNOME as an answer, in #kubuntu you'll get KDE. :P
[09:08] <paulproteus|lapt> Kovecses: The integration is better.
[09:09] <Shadowpillar> anyone here had to deal with an IVTV driver based card?
[09:09] <Kovecses> ok......
[09:09] <Kovecses> ubuntu it is
[09:09] <Amaranth> Kovecses: But #ubuntu has more people so if you need help it's easier.
[09:09] <intelikey> Kovecses xubuntu
[09:09] <ITSa341> Shadow   I'm trying to deal with an ATI card right now.   good luck :-)
[09:09] <landotter> kubuntu and xubuntu are both great, but stock ubuntu is a better place to get your feet wet, imho.
[09:09] <linux_galore> bugger nothing on using gmail with evolution
[09:09] <Amaranth> intelikey: Let's try to not tell people to use a beta derivative that currently doesn't work too well.
[09:10] <Amaranth> intelikey: Unless they use an older system.
[09:10] <intelikey> oh does it not ??
[09:10] <Kovecses> ITSa341: ati is easy
[09:10] <gerald> thanks
[09:10] <intelikey> i really didn't know there were 'admitted' issues with xubuntu
[09:11] <ITSa341> Kov  Radeon Mobility IGP320       help I've tried ALL the How-tos I can find
[09:11] <Amaranth> intelikey: It's not done yet.
[09:11] <intelikey> i knew there were with dapper
[09:11] <ITSa341> It's running fine, but no 3d
[09:11] <Amaranth> intelikey: Expect it to be better in dapper.
[09:11] <tuv> ok.. i solved my wpa_supplicant problem.. congrate me
[09:11] <ITSa341> fails the 3d test in cedega
[09:11] <Amaranth> ITSa341: You installed xorg-driver-fglrx?
[09:11] <intelikey> i see
[09:11] <ITSa341> yup
[09:12] <Amaranth> ITSa341: And changed the xorg driver to fglrx instead of ati?
[09:12] <ITSa341> modified the xorg.conf file as directed
[09:12] <ITSa341> lol
[09:12] <tuv> or so i thought!
[09:12] <ITSa341> yup
[09:12] <Amaranth> ITSa341: Ok, then ATI doesn't like you.
[09:12] <vanden> tuv: <crowd roars> :-)
[09:12] <dsas> should the right hand of the touchpad on my laptop just scroll? Or do I need to use some modifier key at the same time?
[09:12] <Amaranth> ITSa341: They don't support the newer cards right away for linux.
[09:12] <ITSa341> then boots to a filed x start    good thing I remember a few console commands   :-)
[09:13] <binarydigit> dsas: are you using the synaptic drivers
[09:13] <gerald> hrm I just installed that xine firefox video player
[09:13] <_jeff> does anybody here use apollon?
[09:13] <intelikey> was it good for you ?
[09:13] <gerald> i still get a decoder error when i try to play something in firefox
[09:13] <gerald> is there something I need to do to enable it?
[09:13] <ITSa341> feels good to get back to Linux. I just hope there is a gps map program I can find for Linux that compares to MS Streets and Trips 2005
[09:14] <Kovecses> gerald: did you get w32codecs?
[09:14] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:14] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[09:15] <dsas> binarydigit: it's an out-of-the-box dapper flight 2 install, I have no idea.
[09:15] <gerald> what's the apt package name for it?
[09:15] <Kovecses> gerald: w32codecs
[09:15] <ITSa341> anyone here run AOL under ubuntu?
[09:15] <binarydigit> i just installed breezy on my laptop today and my touchpad scrolling worked out of the box
[09:15] <Kovecses> !w32codecs
[09:15] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:15] <ITSa341> binary   congrats mine too
[09:15] <quacker> landotter, have you efer gotten it to play Matroska Video (wrapper) files?
[09:16] <_jeff> does anybody here use apollon?
[09:16] <Amaranth> ITSa341: Oh, x fails to start when you change the driver?
[09:16] <quacker> with libxine, I mean?
[09:16] <ITSa341> binary  eMachines m5305 here   you??
[09:16] <ITSa341> Amar   yup
[09:16] <dsas> binarydigit, ok, I can't see synaptics mentioned anywhere in device manager...
[09:16] <Amaranth> ITSa341: What's the error message?
[09:16] <landotter> quacker, LOL, nope--I have no idea what those are--but it works fine for embedded vids--like you find at news sites...
[09:16] <quacker> ITSa341, you in Canada?
[09:16] <ITSa341> <-- backed up xorg.conf   thank goodness
[09:16] <ITSa341> US
[09:17] <ITSa341> MI
[09:17] <Amaranth> ITSa341: Don't go back to the old version yet, let's try to fix this one.
[09:17] <Tomcat_> quacker: I'm pretty sure Matroska works with the "regular" vid setup.
[09:17] <binarydigit> dsas: it would be mentioned in xorg.conf
[09:17] <irvin> !help
[09:17] <binarydigit> see if the driver is set to synaptics
[09:17] <binarydigit> for the touchpad
[09:17] <ITSa341> quacker  close to Canada
[09:17] <dsas> binarydigit, ahh of course
[09:18] <intelikey> irvin meet the bot, ubotu meet irvin
[09:18] <quacker> Tomcat_, not in Xine -- only in Mplayer -- which sux cuz it has a much less powerfull interface, crashes more and burns way more CPU
[09:18] <ITSa341> Amar   basically tells me it failed and asks me if I want to look at the message    which lists nothing then drops me to a command line
[09:18] <ITSa341> Amar   I am trying   :-)
[09:18] <ITSa341> <-- on it now
[09:18] <dsas> binarydigit, yep it's there. I'll report it as abug.
[09:19] <quacker> ITSa341, I have an old e-machine someone just upgraded from sitting under my desk waiting to become a printserver or something.  I though they were a regional (Canadian) company.
[09:19] <ITSa341> Amar   I really like ubuntu and plan to use it as my primary OS
[09:19] <assasukasse> hi all
[09:19] <Amaranth> quacker: Gateway owns emachines
[09:19] <assasukasse> i have a problemn with a very new lap
[09:20] <assasukasse> a compaq R4000
[09:20] <Amaranth> quacker: They're based in San Diego, California
[09:20] <quacker> ewww
[09:20] <quacker> NoCals!
[09:20] <kyled> I worked in the bestbuy around Philadelphia and we sold emachines as well.
[09:20] <irvin> intelikey, i'm seriously lagged
[09:20] <ITSa341> quacker  I have an old eMachine running as a server for a hotel reservation database about 8 miles from here   old amd k6-3 400
[09:20] <ITSa341> runs rock silid still
[09:20] <gerald> well w32codecs is not on the repositories
[09:20] <gerald> so where do I get them?
[09:21] <liable> !laptop
[09:21] <ubotu> methinks laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:21] <Madpilot> !tell gerald about restricted
[09:21] <Madpilot> gerald: there's a URL for the w32codecs in the URL you just got sent by the bot...
[09:21] <quacker> gerald, look again (and this time make sure you have Multiverse and Universe)
[09:21] <ITSa341> this is AMD 2200+ ATI Radeon, 1024MB Ram and widescreen. If I can get this doing everything I need this will be my main pc with ubuntu on it
[09:21] <intelikey> phreq mdk makes a good enough server for me tanks knee way
[09:21] <phreq> mdk?
[09:22] <liable> !laptop is also tuxmobil.org
[09:22] <ubotu> okay, liable
[09:22] <Amaranth> !laptop
[09:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[09:22] <Amaranth> ok, it didn't go over
[09:22] <Amaranth> good
[09:22] <phreq> I have FreeBSD on two floppies. ;)
[09:22] <phreq> Can't go wrong with that.
[09:22] <landotter> gerald, you can just to to the mplayer website, grab the codecs and decompress them into /usr/lib/win32  you'll have to make the directory, but totem, xine, mplayer and whatnot will find them automatically....
[09:22] <ITSa341> but, I use my laptop all day every day so it has to do everything I need without dual booting so I need ubuntu working right all the way around
[09:22] <Amaranth> landotter: only if you have totem-xine installed
[09:23] <intelikey> phreq i have linux on two floppies  tu shea
[09:23] <landotter> Amaranth, of course. :P
[09:23] <intelikey> :)
[09:23] <phreq> Probably a lot easier to install than the daemon too.
[09:23] <ITSa341> Amar   I'm reinstalling the drivers right now so I can try again
[09:23] <phreq> Paenguin > Daemon. ;)
[09:23] <quacker> ITSa341, install with "noapic" and "nolapic" and pay carefull attention to the mouse driver config
[09:24] <ITSa341> mouse and touchpad are working great right from day one :-)
[09:25] <intelikey> ping
[09:25] <phreq> I'm outta here.
[09:25] <ITSa341> night phreq
[09:25] <intelikey> gooday
[09:25] <zviivz> hi ... heard this is a nice place to get help on ubuntu linux
[09:25] <ITSa341> gooday   aussie?
[09:25] <binarydigit> zviivz: whered you hear that crazy rumor
[09:25] <zviivz> i have a question here .. how do i mount an Apple HFS harddisk?
[09:26] <Orborde> How can I force my DNS lookupmadoggle to use TCP?
[09:26] <zviivz> binarydigit: on the ubuntu forum postings :)
[09:26] <binarydigit> =P
[09:26] <vanden> Repeat of my question: Today, trying to trace down a hardware problem with an install of breezy ubuntu with the kubuntu desktop added, I booted up with Knoppix 4.0. Now, when booting normally, the screen showing the loading process has changed from the ubuntu one to the kubuntu one. That seems rude :-)  I've no idea how to fix that. What would I need to look into?
[09:26] <phreq> Check out man mount too.
[09:26] <phreq> Anyway, I'm gone.
[09:26] <Orborde> I'm behind at least 2 layers of NAT, so UDP is kind of sucking hard. I can't use WWW, either.
[09:27] <ITSa341> hey vanden      just don't give up, I seem to find all the help I need here.
[09:28] <vanden> ITSa341: wasn't giving up, just bumping back into sight :-)
[09:28] <ITSa341> reminds me of the Linspire community but even nicer and friendlier
[09:28] <ITSa341> which is the key to getting Linux more readily available
[09:28] <vanden> ITSa341: I think it is the Python collection. A nicer newsgroup than comp.lang.python I've yet to see.
[09:29] <vanden> connection
[09:29] <intelikey> vanden 'when booting'  is that pre boot  or while X is loading ?
[09:29] <dsas> vanden, It'd be one of the packages that kubuntu-desktop depends on, kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:29] <duomaxwell> newb question! How do I burn a .iso in Ubuntu?
[09:29] <vanden> intelikey: Too new to know how to answer. I mean the screen that reports the various things like "checking network connection" and "syncying clock" etc.
[09:29] <dsas> duomaxwell, right click on it, then press "burn cd" or something similar
[09:30] <chmod775> hi folks
[09:30] <ITSa341> hello chmod
[09:30] <chmod775> How can I eanble transparency in gdesklets
[09:30] <duomaxwell> dsas too simple lol, too used to using thigs like toast or nero to do it
[09:30] <chmod775> Hi ITSa341
[09:30] <vanden> dsas: Thanks. They were there before the knoppix boot. What would knoppix have chnaged to bring them to the fore?
[09:30] <zviivz> duomaxell: use Nautilus
[09:30] <chmod775> gdesklets == transparency ????
[09:31] <zviivz> gnome default file explorer i believe
[09:31] <intelikey> ok vanden that is boot splash.  check in the system preferances and look for boot splash somethin.
[09:31] <vanden> intelikey: thanks, off to do.
[09:31] <zviivz> anyone here installed Ubuntu on PPC??
[09:31] <tuv> is there a kernel option to adjust the console size to the monitor's?
[09:31] <chmod775> can anyone hlelp me
[09:31] <chmod775> with gdesk;lets
[09:32] <chmod775> ?
[09:32] <dsas> vanden, it seems very unlikely that knoppix could/would change that, last time I used it, it mounted all your filesystems as read only....
[09:32] <llama32> hi, im using the gnome 2.12 demo/live disc (ubuntu based), is there a way to install to HD?
[09:32] <intelikey> vanden it is highly unlikely that knoppix did it.  but that rather it was done before you shut down prior to booting knoppix.
[09:32] <vanden> intelikey: Did you mean via the gui?
[09:33] <cdubya> any quick way to find out how many packages there are in the repositories, like a total guesstimate?
[09:33] <Amaranth> ITSa341: anything?
[09:33] <michael> can someone help me pls
[09:33] <Amaranth> cdubya: hang on, i'll make the bot tell you
[09:33] <cdubya> Amaranth, kewl.
[09:33] <vanden> dsas and intelikey: I take your collective point. But 30 boots had ubuntu artwork, I booted once with knoppix, ran acpi -V then rebooted and it was changed.
[09:33] <chmod775> !gdesklets
[09:33] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[09:33] <duomaxwell> ok, newb question 2, how do I make VLC the default media player?
[09:33] <cdubya> :)
[09:34] <Amaranth> !dstats
[09:34] <intelikey> via or gui  ????
[09:34] <chmod775> ubotu, u are a fool?
[09:34] <ubotu> ...but u is already something else...
[09:34] <Amaranth> d'oh, broken
[09:34] <cdubya> ubotu's broken?
[09:34] <chmod775> huh why?
[09:34] <vanden> intelikey: was that to me? If so, don't follow/
[09:34] <Amaranth> dstats is
[09:34] <cdubya> ah
[09:35] <intelikey> vanden no.
[09:35] <cdubya> any idea, in a guesstimate how many there are?
[09:35] <ITSa341> Amar   sorry, was away. Just finished downloading fglrx again.
[09:35] <Amaranth> dstats hoary
[09:35] <DjDarkman> why can`t i use alsa ,for default sound input in the multimedia systems selector?
[09:35] <Amaranth> !dstats hoary
[09:35] <cdubya> bummer
[09:35] <Amaranth> grr
[09:35] <Amaranth> !dstats hoary
[09:36] <Random_Transit> question...is KDE 3.5 in any ubu repositories yet? and if so, which one?
[09:36] <Amaranth> it works in a PM
[09:36] <Amaranth> !dstats hoary
[09:36] <Amaranth> fscking bot
[09:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 13535 packages, 1383 maintainers, 25587 MB installed size, 8002 MB compressed size.
[09:36] <Hobbsee> !tell Random_Transit about kde3.5
[09:36] <Amaranth> there!
[09:36] <DjDarkman> why can`t i use alsa ,for default sound input in the multimedia systems selector?
[09:36] <Amaranth> DjDarkman: why can't you?
[09:36] <intelikey> 8g
[09:37] <DjDarkman> Amaranth, i can select it ,but when i test it ,i get an error
[09:37] <Amaranth> DjDarkman: Please file a bug report.
[09:38] <intelikey> i'd /j debian and check the dstats on sarge but i don't think they let IRC-NAME=root in that channel
[09:38] <cdubya> !dstats breezy
[09:38] <Amaranth> !dstats sarge
[09:38] <Amaranth> bleh, that used to work
[09:38] <cdubya> heh
[09:38] <ITSa341> Amar   when I try to depmod fglrx it errors
[09:38] <Amaranth> ITSa341: _what_ errors?
[09:38] <ITSa341> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[09:39] <Amaranth> ok...
[09:39] <Amaranth> ITSa341: just modprobe it
[09:39] <ITSa341> <-- sure I'm doing something very simple wrong
[09:39] <intelikey> !dstats dapper
[09:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18246 packages, 1702 maintainers, 36347 MB installed size, 11157 MB compressed size.
[09:39] <DjDarkman> what does "Failed to construct pipline for Advanced ...."
[09:39] <DjDarkman> ?
[09:39] <DjDarkman> Amaranth,
[09:40] <ITSa341> same error
[09:40] <michael> someone help?
[09:40] <Amaranth> DjDarkman: That means the test failed. That's a gstreamer error, not an ALSA one.
[09:40] <michael> help pls
[09:40] <Amaranth> DjDarkman: I know nothing about how sound works in linux, sorry.
[09:40] <Amaranth> michael: Please ask a question.
[09:40] <llama32> anyone? how to install from live CD?
[09:40] <Amaranth> ITSa341: ok, i'm thinking your card isn't supported
[09:40] <Amaranth> llama32: You can't.
[09:40] <intelikey> michael nope we are not going to help, until you describe the problem.
[09:41] <Amaranth> intelikey: Please don't be rude.
[09:41] <michael>  ok now, heres my prob, now i was able to dual boot beforehand, and resize partition....ok i re-formatt, install win xp, the straight after thats done, i try ubuntu, then i get to the paritionin part, now i click re-size hda 1 or watever then type in 10 GB as a new partition, not its askin for a 512 B minium any help
[09:41] <ITSa341> Amar   well, 2d works great and I can play games on my office comp
[09:41] <intelikey> llama32 use the install cd not the live cd to install.
[09:41] <Amaranth> michael: I don't think you can put in '10GB' for a value
[09:41] <mitrovarr> does anyone know a command that turns the monitor on/off?
[09:42] <Amaranth> michael: Try putting in all the zeros.
[09:42] <michael> well in the past i was able to, i used to have a 10 gb partition for ubuntu and then the rest for win xp
[09:42] <michael> wat u mean all zeros
[09:43] <michael> ?
[09:43] <intelikey> michael try 10000000000    in place of 10GB
[09:43] <michael> ok thanks, so that wont wipe my win xp partition will it?
[09:44] <DjDarkman> what does "Failed to construct pipline for Advanced ...." mean if i get this while i test Alsa in the input in the mutlimedia system selector?
[09:44] <intelikey> it's not supposed to, no.
[09:44] <ITSa341> OK  repeating an old question   anyone here have any good luck with AOL under ubuntu?
[09:44] <michael> ok thanks, i was successfully able to dual boot in the past, but now i cant, now ill re-format and install windows then try ubuntu again
[09:45] <intelikey> DjDarkman probably that the /dev/* was not found.
[09:45] <DjDarkman> and how do i correct it?
[09:45] <llama32> intelikey: yes, seeing as i obviously have an install disc at my disposal (why else would i ask about installing from the live CD?), that would be a very good option, although i lack the brainpower to think of that myself
[09:46] <Amaranth> The rudeness stops here. ;)
[09:47] <mitrovarr> nevermind, figured it out myself
[09:47] <intelikey> llama32 it is not very likely that you will have much success installing from the live cd.  if that is the only option.   mount the hard drive partition and copy all files over then pivot root and install a boot loader
[09:47] <Amaranth> intelikey: The live cd is customized for that environment, it will _suck_ as an installed system.
[09:48] <intelikey> yep
[09:48] <Amaranth> although i guess it would all get fixed when you upgraded to dapper in 4 months
[09:48] <ITSa341> Live cd has it's uses. It booted and everything worked including 802.11. That made me install it.
[09:49] <intelikey> llama32 then you will need to reconfigure apt and apt-get the ubuntu-desktop.
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[10:29] (sudo_smartass/#ubuntu) can someone point me in a direction where i can find soundcard help?
[10:30] (rob_p/#ubuntu) VanDame:  Once you have done that, you will be able to do, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart".
[10:30] (sudo_smartass/#ubuntu) i know it has to be an easy fix it just aint coming to my brain
[10:30] (intelikey/#ubuntu) sudo_smartass module loaded ok ?
[10:30] (intelikey/#ubuntu) lsmod
[10:30] <mevvis> :)
[10:31] <intelikey> sudo_smartass card detected ok ?       cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:32] <mendy> If I manually download a .deb binary, where can I put it so that synaptics will see it and install it for me?
[10:32] <sudo_smartass> ok lemme check
[10:32] <QMario> What is PREFIX?
[10:33] <intelikey> mendy you can  sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:33] <sudo_smartass> it only gave me a prompt?
[10:33] <sudo_smartass> that doesn't seem right
[10:33] <mendy> I am not having luck downloading through synaptic it keeps telling me connection failed so I just http'ed to the site
[10:33] <mendy> Ok That's just as good, thanks
[10:34] <sudo_smartass> intelikey, that aint normal right?
[10:34] <intelikey> sudo_smartass back to step one.
[10:34] <QMario> What's the situation?
[10:34] <sudo_smartass> intelikey, and i load it how?
[10:34] <intelikey> lsmod  is the sound card's module loaded
[10:34] <intelikey> modprobe
[10:35] <sudo_smartass> intelikey, i turned off the start sound server in the sounds menu under preferences
[10:35] <mendy> Is there any reason synaptic will fail when the site is up and I can download it directly? Maybe the file is too big?
[10:35] <sudo_smartass> what arguements do i add to modprobe?
[10:35] <missmoose> how can i install winxp on an external hdd when ubuntu is on the internal?
[10:35] <VanDame> hei rob
[10:35] <intelikey> then turn it back on.
[10:35] <VanDame> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:35] <VanDame> Not starting apache2 - edit /etc/default/apache2 and change NO_START to be 0.
[10:35] <VanDame> muakz:/home/admin# cat /etc/default/apache2
[10:35] <VanDame> # 0 = start on boot; 1 = don't start on boot
[10:35] <VanDame> NO_START=0
[10:35] <VanDame> ?
[10:35] <VanDame> so ?
[10:35] <Ribs> missmoose: Unplug the internal drive maybe?
[10:36] <VanDame> i'm edit it use notepad
[10:36] <sudo_smartass> miss
[10:36] <sudo_smartass> u might have a problem with that
[10:36] <Ribs> VanDame: Don't use notepad
[10:36] <VanDame> i have done
[10:36] <Ribs> VanDame: It'll add Windows style line breaks which may confuse the script's parser
[10:36] <VanDame> anyidea ?
[10:37] <intelikey> missmoose if bios can boot the ext your in binnus
[10:37] <WizzoMaFizzo> Where can I get a good list of repos?
[10:37] <Ribs> VanDame: Open the file in nano and correct any damage done
[10:37] <Ribs> VanDame: Such as any ^M's on the end of a line
[10:37] <sudo_smartass> winxp records settings from the install... what mobo, proc, memory, sound, video, etc.... if you are putting it on an external u wont be able to be moving it from computer to computer without issues
[10:37] <sudo_smartass> its part of their no piracy deal
[10:38] <sudo_smartass> if you plan on leaving it though... change your bios to see that drive as your primary....then pop in the cd (change the boot to cd before hdd) and then install to the external
[10:38] <mendy> The wine program is downloading at 6.8KB per second!! I think that's why it's getting stuck.
[10:38] <Ribs> sudo_smartass: Not always true
[10:39] <Ribs> sudo_smartass: Corperate editions of Windows don't have this restriction
[10:39] <intelikey> sudo_smartass can if it is never connected to the inet :)\
[10:39] <mendy> Does anyone know which download manaager is good?
[10:39] <concept10> Gosh, I love XFCE apps, they are so light and quick
[10:39] <sudo_smartass> ahh yes...
[10:39] <sudo_smartass> but
[10:39] <sudo_smartass> who uses the comp without the internet intel?
[10:39] <sudo_smartass> and yeah... the corp can... but not many people i know have that edition
[10:40] <Ribs> I thought Windows would just lock itself out if it needed 'activation' ?
[10:40] <Ribs> I don't think that requires a Internet connection.
[10:40] <intelikey> i boot windows (not xp) but never connect it to the net.
[10:41] <wizardjames> yeah
[10:41] <Ribs> sudo_smartass: I'll correct you again. Don't run Windows and it's never a problem! :)
[10:41] <intelikey> or   not   and
[10:41] <sudo_smartass> ribs... nope... u just change the xp key
[10:41] <wizardjames> lol
[10:41] <sudo_smartass> lol exactly ribs
[10:41] <sudo_smartass> but in my case... have no sound... had to use windows for it
[10:41] <wizardjames> i am slowly moving over to ubuntu.. tonight if i get the power will be the 3ed time reisntalling it on a partion casue i keep messing it up.
[10:41] <sudo_smartass> but now that my windows is proper screwed to the point of reinstalling... i will get back to trying to figure out the sound card issue on this side of things
[10:42] <Ribs> Why is it screwed?
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> virus
[10:42] <Ribs> ah
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> didn't see it coming
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> should have
[10:42] <intelikey> i still have the 95 the came with a box.... it plays a game now and then
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> but i was tired
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> lol
[10:42] <Ribs> ran a .exe you should'nt of done?
[10:42] <wizardjames> i love xp..it makes me money < computer tech (more hardware.. some software for windows)
[10:42] <sudo_smartass> so yeah... intel... what was that about the modprobe thing?
[10:43] <MachineScrew> any one know how to convert various video files to theora
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> dude i dont even know what theora is...
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> lol
[10:43] <Ribs> I hate Windows. I have to use it all day at work
[10:43] <Ribs> It's a major pain in my ass
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> im mixed... gotta use windows at work... right next to linux and unix
[10:43] <Ribs> Needs rebooting 3-4 times a day
[10:43] <MachineScrew> sudo_smartass, its a video codec
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> lol shit
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> get a sco box then
[10:43] <sudo_smartass> that unix sucks
[10:44] <VanDame> # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:44] <VanDame> Forcing reload of web server: Apache2 ... no pidfile found! not running?httpd (pid 12044) already running
[10:44] <Ribs> Can't really
[10:44] <Ribs> the company made all the software with Windows
[10:44] <LinuxKnight> ok seemingly easy question- i set the wrong program to Edit user scripts under Greasemonkey- however I can't remember where to change this back, it isn't in any of the gnome prefs...
[10:44] <sudo_smartass> and has to be rebooted every day
[10:44] <MachineScrew> sudo_smartass, off shoot of ogg vorbis
[10:44] <VanDame> same rob
[10:44] <VanDame> http://84.244.4.160/
[10:44] <VanDame> !_!
[10:44] <ubotu> VanDame: No idea
[10:44] <Ribs> It's fairly scarey, some of the Windows boxen we have are mission critical
[10:44] <sudo_smartass> damnit... did intel leave?
[10:44] <sudo_smartass> oh ok machine
[10:44] <sudo_smartass> lol
[10:45] <Ribs> VanDame: Try it with the 'stop' option, then 'zap', then 'start'
[10:45] <MachineScrew> so again, any one know how to convert various video files to theora
[10:45] <wizardjames> flac and wavpack are best codics.. imo
[10:45] <irvin> VanDame, whereis apachectl
[10:45] <Ribs> VanDame: It seems the script is out of sync with reality
[10:45] <wizardjames> with ogg.. somewere there
[10:45] <Ribs> right, off to work, have fun peeps.
[10:45] <paulproteus|lapt> VanDame: Do you have another web server installed along with Apache2?
[10:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Maybe tinyhttpd or something?
[10:45] <VanDame> anyone can resolve this prob ?
[10:45] <mendy> Hey guys, what's the best downloading package?
[10:45] <rob_p> VanDame:  Stop apache and make sure all instances are killed off.  Then, use /etc/init.d/apache2 to restart it.
[10:45] <MachineScrew> i need to convert files to be 160x160 and fit on 128 mb SD card
[10:45] <wizardjames> BE back in ...30 mins? gona reinstall ubuntu .. then retry everything i did today..
[10:45] <VanDame> before i'm use apache1
[10:45] <mendy> My downloads are awfully slow
[10:46] <paulproteus|lapt> VanDame: Did you apt-get remove apache1?
[10:46] <LinuxKnight> any help on where to change the Edit program option for Greasemonkey, or possibly a global GNOME option?
[10:46] <wizardjames> what does the dvd have that the cd does not?
[10:47] <MachineScrew> LinuxKnight, System>Prefrences>Prefered Apps
[10:47] <LinuxKnight> not in there MachineScrew
[10:47] <rob_p> VanDame:  Do, "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop" and then ps -A | grep apache" to make sure.  Once you have stopped all apache processes, do a, "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" and it should come up with the new configuration.
[10:47] <MachineScrew> what are you in
[10:47] <LinuxKnight> MachineScrew, it has web browser, email, and terminal- not text editor
[10:47] <LinuxKnight> ubuntu
[10:48] <LinuxKnight> 5.10
[10:48] <MachineScrew> GNOME install
[10:48] <iTune> Can anybody help me ?!
[10:48] <LinuxKnight> i know there has to be something, just more used to RH/Fedora
[10:48] <MachineScrew> or server
[10:48] <LinuxKnight> yes gnome
[10:48] <MachineScrew> hmm
[10:48] <VanDame> 32449 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:48] <VanDame> 32734 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:48] <VanDame>   426 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:48] <VanDame>   428 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:48] <VanDame>   751 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:48] <VanDame> killal lof them
[10:48] <rob_p> VanDame:  I suspect that since you started apache with apachectl, the init script is having trouble stopping the original process.  If that's the case, you might need to do a, "sudo killall apache2"
[10:49] <rob_p> VanDame:  Yes.  Kill them all.
[10:49] <iTune> I have problem in installation " Unable to install initrd-tools
[10:49] <iTune> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log
[10:49] <VanDame> /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:49] <VanDame> Starting web server: Apache2.
[10:50] <LinuxKnight> MachineScrew, perhaps something wrong/misconfig'd with gnome, in particular the preferred aps?
[10:50] <rob_p> VanDame:  Good!  Now it should work!
[10:50] <VanDame> yeah
[10:50] <VanDame> thanks rob
[10:50] <VanDame> http://84.244.4.160/status.php?php
[10:50] <MachineScrew> LinuxKnight, gedit should be the default editor
[10:50] <rob_p> VanDame:  You welcome.  Have fun!
[10:51] <wizardjames> what port does xchat use for dcc?..
[10:51] <MachineScrew> so what are you trying to do exactly
[10:51] <VanDame> nite all
[10:51] <iTune> Please
[10:51] <iTune> can anybody help me i have install. problem
[10:51] <iTune> ?
[10:51] <LinuxKnight> MachineScrew, i accidentally changed it when I clicked "Edit" in greasemonkey, apparently gedit wasn't default
[10:52] <kaffeend> hey guys, two things: 1) What is the difference between KDE and Gnome? and 2) is there somewhere I can get a hi-res image of the Ubuntu logo?
[10:52] <wizardjames> iTune , tell us what it is..we cant know what your thinking
[10:52] <LinuxKnight> i had to pick something, picked something wrong, and now i can't change it
[10:52] <gerald> what's a good filebrowser other than thunar or naitlus
[10:52] <MachineScrew> wizardjames, what ever one you want Settings>Prefrences>File Transfer
[10:52] <iTune> wizardjames: I got this error in installation " Unable to install initrd-tools
[10:52] <iTune> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log
[10:52] <LinuxKnight> and the preferred apps is supposed to have "TextEditor" but doesn't??? (Help system shows it)
[10:52] <Shadow_pillar> how do I set the mysql administrator?
[10:52] <Shadow_pillar> in ubuntu
[10:52] <MachineScrew> well find a text file
[10:52] <MachineScrew> then right click on it
[10:53] <iTune> hm. i am installing
[10:53] <MachineScrew> then go to properties
[10:53] <iTune> ubuntu for the first time, i normaly choose ext3 partition and swap space
[10:53] <MachineScrew> click on open with tab
[10:53] <iTune> and installation begin, but unable to load initrd-tools
[10:54] <Shadow_pillar> how do I set the mysql administrator?
[10:54] <intelikey> iTune your cd dirty ?
[10:54] <MachineScrew> LinuxKnight, GNOME developers removed it the help is old
[10:54] <floam> has anyone here gotten SATA DVD drives working in Dapper?
[10:55] <iTune> inetlikey, it is new there is no any scratch on cd
[10:55] <MachineScrew> the way i am telling you seems to be the only way to change what opens what
[10:55] <iTune> perfectly shinning
[10:55] <floam> I've got a bug running: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21515; any ideas?
[10:55] <MachineScrew> LinuxKnight, so whats happening
[10:56] <kaffeend> floam - what's a SATA DVD drive?
[10:56] <MachineScrew> floam, Dapper is not right yet
[10:56] <intelikey> iTune boot the install cd with server-expert mode  (use F1 key befor boot)  and when it boots select the test cd option.
[10:56] <MachineScrew> but I belive SATA drives are seen as SCSI
[10:57] <MachineScrew> if that can help any
[10:57] <Knelix> Anyone know a quick way to add a prefix to all jpg files in a directory. For example, make make files 1.jpg through 100.jpg into Birthday- 001.jpg through Birthday- 100.jpg.
[10:57] <floam> kaffeend: Serial ATA dvd drive
[10:57] <floam> MachineScrew: "not right" ?
[10:57] <kaffeend> news to me :O
[10:57] <MachineScrew> floam, ya as in Alpha
[10:57] <rosendahl_> heya guys... does anyone know if I can incorporate beep-media-player into one of the panels ?
[10:57] <intelikey> look for /dev/sd?
[10:57] <floam> Yes, I'm aware
[10:57] <MachineScrew> ok
[10:57] <floam> MachineScrew: it's closer to working than Breezy, as breezy doesn't have ATAPI support in libata at all
[10:57] <Myrtti> rosendahl_: yes you can, install the panel applet
[10:58] <mrkoje> Knelix,  you can do it with a script
[10:58] <rosendahl_> Myrtti, heh allright I havent seen that one.. Remember where you found it ?
[10:58] <MachineScrew> floam try getting a vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[10:58] <Myrtti> on the ubuntu wiki there was some howtos
[10:58] <buntus> watch a command i can watch someone logged in on ssh ?
[10:58] <Knelix> mrkoje: Where can I find a script, or at least an example I can modify?
[10:59] <iTune> hmmmmm
[10:59] <iTune> i will try
[10:59] <iTune> :S
[10:59] <mrkoje> hold on I'm making one real quick
[10:59] <mrkoje> Knelix,
[10:59] <floam> MachineScrew: my next step will probably be grabbing a newer kernel via git myself with the latest libata stuff from jeff garzik pulled
[10:59] <iTune> mrkoje pricas li bosanski
[10:59] <iTune> ?
[10:59] <MachineScrew> floam, ya that would be the best bet
[11:00] <MachineScrew> floam, new distros offten have a rough start
[11:00] <mrkoje> iTune ??
[11:01] <MachineScrew> from what I know Ubuntu is stll new what is breezy like the 3rd release
[11:01] <floam> for the record, it does look like it should work in Dapper, they've got a 2.6.15 git snapshot, and even some patches that seem to fix ATAPI stuff
[11:01] <MachineScrew> floam, thats good to know
[11:01] <floam> MachineScrew: I don't know if I'd say that, it's based upon debian, which has been around for many years
[11:02] <floam> over a decade
[11:02] <MachineScrew> floam, ya I know I used debian 1
[11:02] <MachineScrew> once
[11:03] <MachineScrew> floam, but debian lack very much a recent stable repos
 floam, new distros offten have a rough start <---- agreed, but; it's based on the debian collection  it shouldn't be very rough.
[11:03] <sudo_smartass> damnit
[11:03] <sudo_smartass> now im having trouble with my ntfs drives
[11:04] <sudo_smartass> ok
[11:04] <Nikusan> hi all, bittorent problem. gnome-btdownload works fine, my nat and portforwarding is fine, but azureus isn't working. any ideas?
[11:04] <sudo_smartass> anyone here know what my fstab should look like when mounting 2 ntfs partitions?
[11:04] <intelikey> virii affecting the bios and there by affecting all os's sudo_smartass
[11:04] <MachineScrew> well Ubuntu is still very different enough that the people putting it together are not realy working from debian any more
[11:04] <sudo_smartass> intel i dont wanna hear that crap
[11:04] <Hobbsee> sudo_smartass: the same line twice, except for the locations and mount points being different..
[11:04] <ubuntu> salut
[11:05] <sudo_smartass> salut
[11:05] <arnold> How do i update the driver for my gfxcard?
[11:05] <sudo_smartass> ce fazi azi?
[11:05] <sudo_smartass> lol
[11:05] <arnold> It is a Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[11:05] <ubuntu> c'est trop cool ubuntu
[11:05] <MachineScrew> though useing deb pkgs thats where they are similar
[11:05] <ubuntu> lol
[11:05] <sudo_smartass> anyway... intel... i modded it myself and it tells me i screwed something up... but it looks right to me
[11:05] <ubuntu> et l'installation est super simple
[11:05] <sudo_smartass> here is the line i added... tell me whats wrong with it
[11:05] <MachineScrew> it would be like saying SuSE witch at one time was based on redhat
[11:06] <MachineScrew> but now very different
[11:06] <intelikey> sudo_smartass let's have a look
[11:06] <sudo_smartass> nu vorbesc romana
[11:06] <sudo_smartass> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    nls=utf-8,umask0222     0       0
[11:06] <sudo_smartass> lol
[11:06] <arnold> Anybody? I get an error trying to play a game: Could not create glx context
[11:06] <sudo_smartass> he didn't like that answer i guess
[11:06] <ray> does anybody else's hard drive light stay on always?
[11:07] <sudo_smartass> only when im using it constantly ray
[11:07] <intelikey> nls= ?
[11:07] <Hobbsee> sudo_smartass:  my line is: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[11:07] <MachineScrew> any one know how to convert various video files to theora
[11:07] <sudo_smartass> hobbsee... can u read and write to it?
[11:07] <ray> sudo_smartass, this does not happen in other distros
[11:07] <Hobbsee> sudo_smartass: no, that's why ro is there - read only.  Yes, i read with no problems
[11:07] <sudo_smartass> ahh i think it might be the -
[11:08] <intelikey> sudo_smartass not with ro   but there is no dash in the nsl=
[11:08] <sudo_smartass> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[11:08] <sudo_smartass>        missing codepage or other error
[11:08] <MachineScrew> sudo_smartass, NTFS write support on linux is VERY sketchy
[11:08] <sudo_smartass> ok what does that mean then
[11:09] <MachineScrew> any one know how to convert various video files to theora
[11:09] <sudo_smartass> sub the hda1 for hda5... same thing for both
[11:09] <intelikey> sudo /media/hda5 exist
[11:09] <sudo_smartass> command not found
[11:10] <Hobbsee> intelikey: dont you mean ls /media/hda5?
[11:12] <MachineScrew> any one know how to convert various video files to theora
[11:12] <bob_4_a_day> sudo /media/hda5 exist
[11:13] <bob_4_a_day> i got diss'd  my isp diss'd me.
[11:13] <bob_4_a_day> why they be diss'in' on me like that ?
[11:14] <bob_4_a_day> MachineScrew vlc may be able to do that.
[11:14] <mendy> Hey guys, I inserted a cdrw disk into my computer and it mounted it read only.
[11:14] <mendy> How do I change it to write?
[11:14] <mendy> I tried chmod but it didn't let
[11:15] <mendy> How can I remount it?
[11:15] <mrkoje> mendy,  you have to remount it rw
[11:15] <mendy> How?
[11:15] <mendy> What's the remount command for a cd?
[11:15] <bob_4_a_day> the line in /etc/fstab  that pertains to the device needs the   'ro'  removed mendy
[11:15] <MachineScrew> bob_4_a_day, convert a video .avi,.mpg,.mov to theora
[11:16] <bob_4_a_day> MachineScrew yeah you will have to look i'm not sure but it may.
[11:16] <mendy> Oh yes I did edit that file when I permanantly mounted my windows system
[11:16] <mendy> I will have a look
[11:16] <mendy> Thnks
[11:16] <MachineScrew> bob_4_a_day, I went strait to the source #theora
[11:17] <bob_4_a_day> and MachineScrew ?
[11:17] <LinuxKnight> ok MachineScrew tried doing the right click on text file thing, those open in gedit, but the greasemonkey Edit button still launches the wrong prog, even after uninstall/reinstalling greasemonkey
[11:17] <LinuxKnight> messed up config file?
[11:17] <MachineScrew> wow
[11:18] <MachineScrew> bob_4_a_day, ffmpeg2theora
[11:18] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm  i'll make a note
[11:18] <mendy> Hey Bob, This is the line in my /etc/fstab what do I do?
[11:18] <mendy> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:19] <mendy> It doesn't say ro
[11:19] <bob_4_a_day> add rw
[11:19] <poningru> under options
[11:19] <bob_4_a_day> user,rw,noauto
[11:19] <mendy> Ok your good
[11:19] <mendy> Where, after the noauto?
[11:20] <poningru> yeah thats fine too
[11:20] <poningru> or what bob_4_a_day said
[11:20] <mendy> Now how do I reboot the /etc/fstab?
[11:20] <poningru> make sure to keep the comma syntax
[11:20] <mendy> Did that
[11:20] <poningru> no there is a way to do the thing with fstab
[11:20] <poningru> I think its -a
[11:21] <poningru> mount -a
[11:21] <poningru> someone wanna look that up?
[11:21] <mendy> just mount -a?
[11:21] <Hobbsee> poningru: sudo mount -a
[11:21] <mendy> Ok I'll  do that
[11:21] <poningru> yeah thats it
[11:21] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:22] <bob_4_a_day> mendy you can either umount /media/cd* ;mount /media/cd*    or  mount -o remount /media/cd*
[11:22] <mendy> Ok it worked I think
[11:22] <mendy> I got one more problem, though
[11:22] <poningru> awesome
[11:22] <LinuxKnight> shoot no #greasemonkey
[11:22] <poningru> whats up
[11:22] <LinuxKnight> hmm i think its a messed up config in greasemonkey
[11:22] <mendy> It is owned by root and I want to drag and drop it
[11:22] <poningru> LinuxKnight: /me is a junky on that
[11:23] <mendy> It tells me I'm not the owner
[11:23] <mendy> Do I have to change the owner to me (chown)?
[11:23] <mendy> Or is there a way I can make it work anyway
[11:23] <LinuxKnight> poningru, perhaps you can help?  I accidentally changed the "Edit" function in manage user scripts to a CLI editor (no default was set, clicked Edit, chose wrong thing), and now I can't change it back
[11:24] <poningru> LinuxKnight: looking
[11:24] <LinuxKnight> and for some reason, the GNOME preferred apps control panel doesn't have entry for Text Editor
[11:24] <bob_4_a_day> should be ok to own it mendy
[11:24] <LinuxKnight> though it seems I have default text editor set to gedit now, using nautilus anyway
[11:24] <BigIsleVegan> Anybody have any low-end laptop suggestions? I'd like to recommend something for student govt use that has 802.11 wireless and and is well supported by Linux. Thanks!
[11:25] <bob_4_a_day> mendy i'd just    sudo chown <uname> -R /media
[11:25] <pery> where i can find the patch for atheros chipset (wireless) for mode monitor???
[11:25] <mendy> Ok will do
[11:25] <SweetestSavage> Is there a GUI application that can unRAR?
[11:26] <tRSS> ArchiveManager?!
[11:26] <LinuxKnight> BigIsleVegan, check www.linux-laptops.net... offhand anything IBM is usually good, a good used one off ebay or etc...
[11:26] <holycow> SweetestSavage, archiver can unrar, just install rar
[11:26] <holycow> or unrar ... whichever it is, and archiver will use it
[11:26] <SweetestSavage> holycow - I installed unrar-free and Archive Manager still calls it an unknown format =/
[11:26] <BigIsleVegan> ok, thanks, linuxknight, even IBM laptop hardware is supported then?
[11:26] <holycow> then install rar
[11:26] <SweetestSavage> holycow, sudo apt-get install rar-free ?
[11:27] <mendy> By the way, the mount -a did not change the perms to write
[11:27] <LinuxKnight> BigIsleVegan, thats linux-laptop.net sry
[11:27] <BigIsleVegan> ok, thanks
[11:27] <mendy> sorry about that, I just noticed it's still read only.
[11:27] <LinuxKnight> BigIsleVegan, yes most models
[11:27] <BigIsleVegan> LinuxKnight, neato, thanks
[11:27] <LinuxKnight> this site has user reviews of what is supported in Linux :)
[11:27] <mendy> Is there another?
[11:28] <mendy> I did sudo mount -a and it didn't return any errors
[11:28] <mendy> So I figured it worked
[11:28] <holycow> SweetestSavage, give it a go, it's been a bit since i bothered looking up the package name
[11:28] <LinuxKnight> BigIsleVegan, i tinkered with a t30 for a while with ubuntu, but had to give it back to my father so had to take out the livecd and back to borgxp... ;)
[11:29] <LinuxKnight> but it worked well
[11:29] <SweetestSavage> holycow, no-go.. I'm not sure what the package name is, I'm searching it with synaptic..
[11:29] <BigIsleVegan> borgxp, lol
[11:29] <BigIsleVegan> :-)
[11:29] <intelikey> mendy no. not unless you umount it first and if i recall there was a noauto in that fstab line ????     that means -a will ignore that device.
[11:29] <SweetestSavage> holycow, however.. searching for "rar" gives me an enormous list of packages x.X
[11:29] <LinuxKnight> poningru, any hints on this? i'm looking thru the .mozilla/blah/greasemonkey stuff for anything, but not seeing what controls the Edit command
[11:30] <mendy> Ok let me try now
[11:30] <ubuntu> Hi, I need a urgent help: I compiled kernel and I made a mistake on grub. My "/" partition is /dev/hda9, but I typed "root (hd0,0)". Now I am runing Live CD to solve this, but when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/hda9" output is /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[11:30] <ubuntu>  Can someone help me, pleasE?
[11:30] <holycow> SweetestSavage, just install it already :) you can always apt-get remove --purge package name later
[11:31] <poningru> LinuxKnight: dude which edit did you press?
[11:31] <aris> ubuntu, yes, 2 minutes
[11:31] <aris> i had that problem a while ago
[11:31] <ubuntu> aris, ok, thanks
[11:31] <SweetestSavage> holycow, no I can't find the package name, I meant. rar-free isn't it. There isn't a package in the repos that starts with "rar", however there is an unrar-free one that I installed, but Archive manager still calls .rar formats as unknown
[11:32] <aris> so ubuntu, you ran livecd, mounted your / somewhere and then chroot'ed to it ?
[11:32] <intelikey> ubuntu just edit the boot/grub/menu.lst  and change the  (hd0,0)  to  (hd0,9)    or 8 or what ever.
[11:32] <holycow> unrar-nonfree <-- try that?
[11:32] <sudo_smartass> ok
[11:32] <sudo_smartass> still cant figure it out
[11:32] <ubuntu> aris, yeap, I did mount /dev/hda9 and everything is ok
[11:32] <SweetestSavage> holycow, nonexistent. And yes, all repos are enabled
[11:32] <aris> ah yes ubuntu, you don't need to reinstall grub
[11:32] <aris> if it's already booting
[11:32] <holycow> *ummm*
[11:33] <poningru> LinuxKnight: I am assuming the one directly below the list of userscripts
[11:33] <SweetestSavage> holycow, says this: E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[11:33] <mendy> I just did just like you said intelikely and you're right
[11:33] <ubuntu> aris, It is not booting
[11:33] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: Install universe repo
[11:33] <mendy> It did mount again. But.... More technical problems
[11:33] <aris> ubuntu, if grub loads, you just have to modify menu.lst
[11:33] <ubuntu> aris, I runned grub for wrong artition
[11:33] <aris> oh
[11:33] <intelikey> mendy ?
[11:33] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, how would I "install" it?
[11:33] <mendy> I get message that says the disk is protected.
[11:33] <aris> ok then you have your chroot
[11:33] <mendy> What does that mean?
[11:33] <LinuxKnight> poningru, yes... i think i found the answer
[11:33] <ubuntu> aris, what is chroot?
[11:33] <aris> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[11:33] <Stormx2> !tell SweetestSavage about repos
[11:34] <ubuntu> aris, let me see, thanks
[11:34] <andreab> Can someone help me with GnomeMeeting?
[11:34] <poningru> LinuxKnight: for me it just doesnt do anything
[11:34] <holycow> SweetestSavage, there is a package called rar ... do this
[11:34] <mendy> Yes I'm getting lost  here I see
[11:34] <poningru> LinuxKnight: did you fix it?
[11:34] <holycow> SweetestSavage, just as a point of interest, try using synaptic to search
[11:34] <poningru> dude i gotta go
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> it was mentioned in the .mozilla/blahblah stuff... its set in about:config, greasemonkey.editor....
[11:34] <mendy> The disk is protected it says
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> DUUUHHH
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> heh
[11:34] <aris> look through the document. the interesting part is "recovering grub manually" but you need to set a chroot first
[11:34] <holycow> the gui will let you serach results much easier
[11:34] <sudo_smartass> so... yeah... where can i go for help with my drives?
[11:34] <mendy> I never protected it??
[11:34] <sudo_smartass> or my sound
[11:34] <intelikey> mendy are you sure the drive supports bios read/write mode ?
[11:34] <poningru> LinuxKnight: hehe cool
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> i figured it would be something simple
[11:34] <poningru> LinuxKnight: yeah
[11:34] <SweetestSavage> holycow, I did try that =P It gives me too large of a list to look through
[11:34] <holycow> there is a rar candidate visible in there
[11:34] <andreab> Can someone help me with GnomeMeeting?
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> but- still don't know why the GNOME preferred apps doesn't show Text Editor tab
[11:34] <LinuxKnight> so another battle to fight now heh
[11:34] <holycow> SweetestSavage, it's organized alphabetically?
[11:35] <holycow> what is the difficulty here?
[11:35] <mendy> Good question How do i know? I have a writable cd drive
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> holycow, yes.. I looked for "rar", it isn't there.
[11:35] <sudo_smartass> andreab, what do you need help with?
[11:35] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: You can run a search, but for unrarring, you need unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[11:35] <mendy> I use it all the time with xp
[11:35] <poningru> LinuxKnight: irc.mozilla.org #greasemonkey
[11:35] <holycow> SweetestSavage, you screwed somethign up
[11:35] <holycow> it is there
[11:35] <moritz> Hello
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, alright.. I guess I don't have certain repos set up, one sec
[11:35] <holycow> your repos are not all enabled
[11:35] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: check your messages from ubotu
[11:36] <Stormx2> Or go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:36] <sudo_smartass> where do i go for harddrive help? what do i search for?
[11:36] <Stormx2> sudo_smartass: Whats the problem?
[11:36] <holycow> sudo_smartass, what do you mean hard drive help?
[11:36] <mendy> It's a good thing your in red otherwise I would lose you altogether
[11:36] <sudo_smartass> ntfs aren't recognized
[11:36] <sudo_smartass> cant mount them
[11:36] <sudo_smartass> cant access them
[11:36] <Stormx2> !ntfs
[11:36] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:37] <intelikey> mendy yes but it may not support dirrect mount writing.   (hates to admit it) i don't have any new enought hardware to keep up with all this.     mendy i'll defer you to some one that has hardware comparable to yours...
[11:37] <holycow> i gotta remember ubotu
[11:37] <mendy> Great thank you
[11:37] <LinuxKnight> haha yea it works
[11:37] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, weird. When I go to add the nonfree and community maintained ones, and hit OK, it doesn't save the preference.
[11:37] <holycow> sudo_smartass, just to repeat what you will repeate, ntfs writing is not supported, ntfs read is.  the ubotu linkage will be helpfull to you
[11:37] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage
[11:37] <LinuxKnight> poningru_sleep, ohh cool thx though i figured it out
[11:38] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: You need run run a "sudo apt-get update"
[11:38] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: Then re-open synaptic
[11:38] <SmerdyKoV_> how might I make new partitions for linux in windows?
[11:38] <SweetestSavage> Stormx2, Oh yeah.. good idea. Stupid me
[11:38] <SmerdyKoV_> I'm trying to set up for a bootload system in the future
[11:38] <holycow> *cough*
[11:38] <intelikey> mendy  mount i understand.  these new burners that handle read write i'm not up on.  sorry.
[11:38] <Stormx2> SmerdyKoV_: "sudo apt-get install gparted", then open gparted
[11:38] <SweetestSavage> xD
[11:38] <holycow> :) stormy to the rescue
[11:38] <Stormx2> lol
[11:38] <LinuxKnight> SmerdyKoV_, you don't necessaryily need to- leave unpartitioned space, and set it up during the linux install
[11:38] <Stormx2> >.<
[11:38] <mendy> I see so I'm stuck with only burning cd's
[11:39] <SmerdyKoV_> oh i see
[11:39] <mendy> Ok Maybe I'll have a look on the forum if anyone talks about it
[11:39] <SmerdyKoV_> I was under the impression it was necessary
[11:39] <intelikey> no.    but you need some one else to help you.
[11:39] <mendy> Who? You changed colors!
[11:39] <SweetestSavage> holycow, Stormx2, got it working. Thanks guys
[11:40] <mendy> It's still you,though.(?)
[11:40] <LinuxKnight> SmerdyKoV_, for dual boot- install windows first, leaving extra unpartitioned space at the *end* of the drive (windows has to be at the beginning)
[11:40] <Stormx2> before installing its a good idea to resize a partition so you have unallocated space. Or you can do it in the installer, but it is a little crummy with NTFS resizing
[11:40] <LinuxKnight> SmerdyKoV_, then run the linux installer, and it can format the unpartitioned space for linux
[11:40] <SmerdyKoV_> indeed
[11:40] <intelikey> no mendy  it's your irc client picking up on your name.
[11:40] <intelikey> see
[11:40] <intelikey> mendy
[11:40] <SmerdyKoV_> ah I see
[11:40] <intelikey> see
[11:40] <SmerdyKoV_> it sounds so easy on here
[11:40] <LinuxKnight> much better to format linux partitions in linux installer than in windows (can't do it anyway)
[11:40] <SmerdyKoV_> but when I try
[11:40] <SmerdyKoV_> my poor computer will be pwnd
[11:40] <mendy> Hey I never new that:)  You learn something new every day
[11:41] <sudo_smartass> Fing right doggie!!! stormx... ur my new best buddy
[11:41] <Stormx2> Resize your current partition in windows to leave unallocated space, then from the installer select "Automaticly partition free space". That'll give you ext3 and a swap partition
[11:41] <sudo_smartass> hey... does ubuntu have something about fixing the sound card?
[11:41] <Stormx2> !sound
[11:41] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:41] <Stormx2> ^_^
[11:42] <LinuxKnight> SmerdyKoV_, are you installing both windows and linux from scratch on a new drive, or have windows already and adding linux?
[11:42] <sudo_smartass> woot woot
[11:42] <SmerdyKoV_> I'm planning on adding linux
[11:42] <SmerdyKoV_> and I'm trying to repartition IN windows right now
[11:43] <LinuxKnight> if adding linux to existing windows drive, follow Stormx2 advice- resize partition using something like PartitionMagic
[11:43] <LinuxKnight> oh
[11:43] <Stormx2> SmerdyKoV_: Do you want partitionmagic 8?
[11:43] <SmerdyKoV_> I dunno
[11:43] <SmerdyKoV_> how big is it?
[11:43] <Stormx2> SmerdyKoV_: 5 megs
[11:43] <ROBOd> how to add Gaim at startup?
[11:43] <LinuxKnight> windows can't resize partitions with built in tools
[11:43] <Stormx2> SmerdyKoV_: www.dython.net/stormx
[11:43] <LinuxKnight> PM is the way to go :)
[11:43] <SmerdyKoV_> man
[11:43] <intelikey> sudo_smartass i see you are still not listening ?     did you ever modprobe you sound driver ?
[11:43] <Stormx2> SmerdyKoV_: Its slightly pirated but theres nothing better on windows
[11:44] <SmerdyKoV_> my windows is pirated too :)
[11:44] <Stormx2> haha
[11:44] <SmerdyKoV_> makes me feel better about having to use it
[11:44] <Stormx2> fight the power!
[11:44] <SmerdyKoV_> word
[11:44] <SmerdyKoV_> even thought I OWN a copy of windows
[11:44] <sudo_smartass> intel... lol i did it but it gave me a prompt... so then after that i asked u twice what arguements i should have used with modprobe and you never answered
[11:44] <ROBOd> how to add Gaim at startup?
[11:44] <SmerdyKoV_> I left my cd key at home and felt the need to fight the power
[11:45] <Stormx2> I hate XP >.< Can't stand it
[11:45] <Stormx2> ROBOd? I actually have no idea. Check gconf, that may do it
[11:45] <holycow> SmerdyKoV_, the weird thing about open source is it totally kills the warez scene ... once you get the hang of it you don't need the windows crap really
[11:45] <intelikey> sorry sudo_smartass i got disconnected.
[11:45] <holycow> it's a weird realization post fact
[11:45] <sudo_smartass> its ok
[11:45] <holycow> Stormx2, me too
[11:45] <sudo_smartass> ill figure it out later... bookmarked the page and when i get to go its on
[11:45] <intelikey> sudo_smartass what card is it ?
[11:46] <sudo_smartass> ill just ssh back and get this sucker fixed... its an internal ac97 audio
[11:46] <delos> hla
[11:46] <sudo_smartass> integrated i mean
[11:46] <delos> hola??
[11:46] <intelikey> sudo_smartass sudo modprobe snd-ac<tabkey>
[11:47] <Stormx2> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <intelikey> assumes bash completion
[11:47] <mendy> btw intelikey, I just saw a post that if you sudo nautilus, you can do permission changes and read writes on root files
[11:47] <Stormx2> I gotta take a shower. Grandparents arrive soon >.< Ack
[11:48] <sudo_smartass> when i hit tab it beeps at me and does nothing... when i type it like you said and hit enter it gives me an error
[11:48] <mendy> It worked for me and I was able to click the button for write which I wasn't able to do before , but of course, it still tells me I can't do that/
[11:48] <Shibby> Hi dudes. Does someone know if it's possible to download streams via MPlayer?
[11:48] <sudo_smartass> in device manager the sound card is unknown
[11:48] <sudo_smartass> damn im gonna be really late to work lol
[11:48] <mendy> because it's a read only disk
[11:49] <intelikey> mendy yes and you can be back in here asking how come you cant get naut to run as user any more and we will tell you to  sudo chown <yourname> -R $HOME
[11:49] <intelikey> sudo_smartass go go go to work
[11:49] <sudo_smartass> lol
[11:49] <intelikey> get out of here
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> well fine
[11:50] <intelikey> leave
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> maybe i will
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> lol
[11:50] <GoRoDeK> when logging into ubuntu using ssh a few informations are shown directly, in which file the information are stored (last login, mail count, uname -a)?
[11:50] <intelikey> :)
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> but dont think this is over
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> ur my new go to guy
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> lol
[11:50] <mendy> Oh Oh I guess I was too smart for my own good intelikey
[11:50] <intelikey> lol
[11:50] <intelikey> ok
[11:50] <sudo_smartass> ok im outtie everyone... gl with all ur problems
[11:51] <mrkoje> why is bash scripting so fricking wierd?
[11:51] <holycow> compared to what?
[11:51] <intelikey> mendy not really just trying to tell you ahead of time that running nautilus as root can change ownership of some config files which, you will need that command ^ to fix
[11:52] <mrkoje> it just seems a little wierd
[11:52] <holycow> it's just syntax, the logic rules are programming 101
[11:52] <mendy> I see
[11:52] <mrkoje> holycow,  exactly...
[11:52] <LinuxKnight> warez who needs warez we have sourceforge :)
[11:52] <mendy> Ok I'll remeber the command
[11:52] <intelikey> mrkoje it's not if you are used to cli bash  then you just type the same commands in the script.
[11:53] <holycow> LinuxKnight, *high five*
[11:53] <holycow> :)
[11:53] <SmerdyKoV> can someone link me to partition magic again
[11:53] <mrkoje> intelikey,  i know that.. but its just ... wierd damnit
[11:53] <holycow> dude, no warez here plz.
[11:53] <Moodles-> SmerdyKoV: the demo?
[11:53] <holycow> kthxbye.
[11:54] <SmerdyKoV> someone just gave me a link for the full
[11:54] <intelikey> !WAREZ
[11:54] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, intelikey
[11:54] <holycow> lol thats a first
[11:54] <mrkoje> I haven't seen that before either.
[11:54] <holycow> SmerdyKoV, i'm not kidding, you will get banned for bringing that up
[11:54] <SmerdyKoV> what?
[11:54] <holycow> this is a professional / family channel, keep warez talk elsewhere please
[11:55] <SmerdyKoV> sorry, I'm a total n00b
[11:55] <intelikey> what's localhost's ip ?
[11:55] <Mr-Falkor>  when I type: free -m in the terminal, I only have 19mb free, is that normal ? my total mem is 504
[11:55] <Stormx2> 127.0.0.1
[11:55] <Mr-Falkor> and I got 485 used
[11:55] <Ticho> 127.x.y.z
[11:55] <Stormx2> back, by the way
[11:55] <SmerdyKoV> stormx2: can I have that link again
[11:55] <intelikey> !warez
[11:55] <ubotu> I guess warez is get your warez at 127.0.0.1
[11:55] <FHX> Hey all
[11:55] <intelikey> there
[11:55] <holycow> SmerdyKoV, no worries, just keep it clean and on the up and up :)
[11:55] <mendy> You were right, though about chown for /dev/htc to mendy, without that You can't eject the disk without sudoing
[11:55] <Stormx2> intelikey: Stop abusing the bot.
[11:56] <FHX> I need some help..I tried in the kubuntu forums but they referred me here, no one there could help
[11:56] <intelikey> Stormx2 that's not abuse
[11:56] <Stormx2> intelikey: Is it going to helo anyone?
[11:56] <Stormx2> help*
[11:56] <intelikey> yeah
[11:57] <FHX> I'm trying to replace my entire system with only Kubuntu, but what has happened is that it had errors several times and so when I retried it for the fourth time during the Partitions step it only offers me the option to : Manually edit partition tables
[11:57] <FHX> Could somebody help me out?
[11:57] <intelikey> like bot snack does
[11:57] <b0xy> ubnutu install actually goes fairly quickly on a decent box
[11:57] <b0xy> he he. I just used shitters before and it was hell
[11:57] <FHX> ..
[11:58] <Stormx2> FHX: I suppose so.
[11:58] <FHX> Could somebody please help me?
[11:58] <FHX> Stormx2: Could you tell m ehow to fix it, please?
[11:58] <FHX> x.x
[11:58] <FHX> I'm panicked.
[11:58] <Stormx2> FHX: What errors did you get when you last tired to install kubuntu?
[11:58] <Stormx2> FHX: Don't be, theres no rush
[11:58] <FHX> It was halfway through, the errors with copying the files
[11:58] <FHX> I'm afraid the damage is not fixable
[11:58] <FHX> that's why I'm scared.
[11:58] <Stormx2> FHX: Its fine.
[11:59] <intelikey> bad blocks
[11:59] <Stormx2> FHX: Let me get this straight, you want one kubuntu partition on this HDD, right?
[11:59] <FHX> Yeah, no windows.
[11:59] <Stormx2> And no other partitions?
[11:59] <mendy> intelikely, what's a good cd burner program?
[11:59] <FHX> Windows wiped, full HDD for Kubuntu. Yep, no othe rparitions
[11:59] <mendy> I don't see any on the applications
[11:59] <Seveas> FHX, then there's not much you can mess up, you can always start over :)
[11:59] <Stormx2> OK, from the "manually edit partitions" bit delete every partition which is there
[11:59] <FHX> That's the problem Seveas, I can't continue
[11:59] <holycow> FHX, then youdon'thave a problem at all, you can't do physiical damage to the hd that way
[12:00] <FHX> Stormx2- Yeah they said that at Kubuntu, but there aren't any partitions showing up
[12:00] <holycow> you can repartition/reformat to your hearts content
[12:00] <FHX> That's the problem.
[12:00] <intelikey> badblocks on the hdd, or hot cpu,   or ram took a dump,  or loose cable.
[12:00] <FHX> It doens't recognize the previous installation's partitions, none exist, and it doesn't recognize any space either
[12:00] <Stormx2> FHX: no partitions? OK. Select "Automaticly partition free space"
[12:00] <FHX> and the only option it allows me is to manually edit partition table
[12:00] <FHX> Stormx2 Where's that?
[12:00] <FHX> x.x I don't have that option
[12:01] <Stormx2> FHX: Ack. >.<
[12:01] <j-linux> Is there a way to mount a damaged thumb drive in Ubunut?  I thought that maybe my USB ports would be "sdb1" or something and that maybe I could mount it but how does it work in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <FHX> Yes, exactly. I'm very scared.
[12:01] <neo369> sevas , konsch du deutsch ?
[12:01] <Stormx2> FHX: Theres no way to go back up?
[12:01] <kemik> !de
[12:01] <ubotu> I guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:01] <FHX> I have no backup Cds
[12:01] <Stormx2> FHX: If there are no partitions theres no data usable on the disk anyway
[12:02] <j-linux> It isn't showing up automatically
[12:02] <intelikey> j-linux yes    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/<something>
[12:02] <holycow> FHX, you have data on the hd you need to preserve?
[12:02] <FHX> yes
[12:02] <j-linux> intelikey: ok... thanks... I will try that.
[12:02] <FHX> i have the data on the hd
[12:02] <holycow> well stop what you are doing right now :)
[12:02] <FHX> Huh?
[12:02] <SmerdyKoV> god I can't wait until I have linux <3
[12:02] <FHX> But it's only files
[12:02] <FHX> i don't have any cds that will restore everything
[12:02] <holycow> fhx just stop
[12:02] <FHX> files as in data files
[12:02] <holycow> FHX, get a second hd, install linux on that
[12:02] <FHX> ..
[12:02] <FHX> Yes but what do I do with this one?!
[12:02] <FHX> I need otfix it
[12:03] <holycow> dude shutup for a goddamned second so i can finish typing
[12:03] <holycow> i was going to suggest to consider as is available to you, a usb cradle
[12:03] <intelikey> easy big boy
[12:03] <FHX> a what?
[12:03] <Mr-Falkor> FHX, a quick howto: 1) get a hammer 2) use the hammer
[12:03] <holycow> plug this hd in and get the data off that way
[12:03] <holycow> either the hd will be recognized and partitions will be there or ...
[12:03] <LinuxKnight> FHX, i think he's talking about an external USB enclosure for your drive
[12:04] <holycow> you have wiped out the partition table in which case you need some heavy duty help
[12:04] <FHX> ..
[12:04] <holycow> FHX, what LinuxKnight said, external enclosure is your best option at this point to start thinking about getting data off the hd
[12:04] <holycow> reinstalling is absolutely the wrong way to do it
[12:04] <FHX> what do you mean? it doesn't even recognize a root
[12:04] <FHX> Oh crud.
[12:04] <kemik> FHX:  you need a recovery program
[12:05] <holycow> dude just listen
[12:05] <FHX> *listens*
[12:05] <holycow> either a: you get lucky and your partition table is  somehow readable and ubuntu will be able to mount it via usb ... in which case your problem is solved or...
[12:05] <Hobbsee> FHX: already has the data off his hard drive - it is backed up
[12:05] <holycow> b: your partition table is not readable and wiped out which could mean the following
[12:06] <neo369> kann hier jemand deutsch ?
[12:06] <holycow> b: i) you are completely hosed and the data is gone
[12:06] <intelikey> FHX do i understand that you were in the process of totally repartitioning/reformating the whole hard drive for use with ubuntu ?
[12:06] <Hobbsee> !de
[12:06] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:06] <FHX> I can clear the disk i don't need anything on it
[12:06] <holycow> b: ii) you need some heavy duty technical help, there is the remote possibility of reconsituting a partition table but that requires lots of expertice and usually money at a service berau
[12:06] <intelikey> what i thought
[12:06] <ROBOd> how to install TTF fonts?
[12:07] <FHX> intelikely - I wanted to use my entire Hd for only kubuntu, yes
[12:07] <holycow> FHX, but you just said you need to get data off of it?
[12:07] <FHX> I don't.
[12:07] <FHX> I need to fix it.
[12:07] <FHX> Okay here i'll reexplain my problem
[12:07] <mintonman> hi - I'm trying to get kde going - I used apt-get to grab and install the kubuntu-desktop package, but it still boots up into gnome. There must be a setting somewhere: where?
[12:07] <kemik> holycow:  no, not really. recovering data after a format isnt that hard actually
[12:07] <holycow> jesus, welcome to my ignore list then
[12:07] <FHX> I'm stuck at the partitions setup
[12:07] <intelikey> holycow there was misunderstand there
[12:07] <kemik> holycow:  all you need is a good recoveryprogram
[12:07] <FHX> ..
[12:08] <FHX> I'm stuck at the partitions step, in which they only allow me one option: to manually edit tables
[12:08] <Stormx2> ROBOd: Theres no "back" option
[12:08] <FHX> I don't have any other options, and there are no other previous partitions showing nor any disk space
[12:08] <FHX> That is my problem. I cannot mov eforward
[12:08] <FHX> so how do I move back?
[12:08] <Stormx2> And theres no "Automaticly partition free space" option?
[12:08] <kemik> FHX:  manually edit them :) you need a / and a swap
[12:08] <holycow> kemik, true that is possible
[12:08] <FHX> Nope, no such option
[12:08] <Stormx2> Yeah
[12:08] <FHX> kemik - How do I manually edit them?
[12:08] <Stormx2> just make a ext3 partition and a swap partition
[12:08] <maswan> how do I make an animated screenshot of an xterm?
[12:08] <FHX> when I enter it, it only gives me 6 options or so.
[12:09] <intelikey> FHX if you can't get linux to partition the disk i might sujest, running badblocks on the drive with write test.
[12:09] <FHX> I can't make an ypartitions!!
[12:09] <FHX> No space detected
[12:09] <Stormx2> eek
[12:09] <FHX> No partitions detected
[12:09] <kemik> that's worse
[12:09] <FHX> Yes.
[12:09] <Stormx2> >.<
[12:09] <intelikey> yes. so run badblocks on it.
[12:09] <FHX> badblocks?
[12:09] <intelikey> a disk testing utility
[12:09] <FHX> ...
[12:09] <FHX> Okay, how do I undo all of this?
[12:10] <FHX> What is the best way right now to fix this space partitioning mess?
[12:10] <Shibby> How do I enable the console in MPlayer?
[12:10] <FHX> I clearly cannot move forward, which means I have to go back and clean up the entire system.
[12:10] <FHX> so that it's brand new.
[12:10] <FHX> How can I do that?
[12:10] <mintonman> anyone know how to get ubuntu to offer me kde at login (I installed kubuntu-desktop, but I still get gnome only)
[12:10] <kemik> FHX:  seems your drive is a bit fubar
[12:10] <FHX> ..
[12:10] <kemik> FHX:  make sure it's recognized in BIOS?
[12:10] <holycow> Shibby, what do you mean enable console? you can access mplayer from console any time
[12:11] <FHX> No root recognized.
[12:11] <bimberi> mintonman: kde should be an option in the Sessions menu of the login screen
[12:11] <holycow> you can script it and do all sorts of neat things :)
[12:11] <kemik> FHX:  it's not detected in BIOS? the disk i mean ?
[12:11] <intelikey> kemik did you just get to linux ?
[12:11] <FHX> It says: No root recognized
[12:11] <kemik> intelikey:  no, but figuring the cable is loose ;)
[12:11] <mintonman> bimberi: thanks - I'll try again!
[12:11] <FHX> .. How do I fix this?
[12:11] <kemik> intelikey:  it happens that the cable isnt connected ;)
[12:11] <bimberi> mintonman: np :)
[12:11] <FHX> ..it seems nobodhy has a solution. =(
[12:12] <intelikey> kemik it may be but you can turn the bios off for the hdd's and linux don't care.
[12:12] <kemik> intelikey:  yeah i know
[12:12] <kemik> intelikey:  but checking inside bios is quicker than opening the case ;)
[12:12] <Shibby> holycow, i wanna write a command in MPlayer, thought it should be like i console where i could write it?
[12:12] <kemik> (at least, i think so)
[12:12] <FHX> How about if I use a windows os cd?
[12:12] <FHX> will that fix it?
[12:13] <Stormx2> s/fix it/make things worse
[12:13] <FHX> ..
[12:13] <intelikey> FHX i gave you a sulution.  well a direction.   boot the install cd  alt+f2  and type badblocks /dev/hda
[12:13] <kemik> intelikey:  actually the reason i used linux to begin with was to circumvent my old bios max 30gb disk size ... some years ago :)
[12:13] <FHX> intelikey: I don't understand it
[12:13] <Stormx2> follow intelikey's advice
[12:13] <FHX> Ok
[12:13] <holycow> Shibby, you can write a bash script to get mplayer to do whatever you want
[12:13] <FHX> Install CD for windows?
[12:13] <Stormx2> no
[12:13] <Stormx2> ubuntu
[12:13] <kemik> oboonto cd
[12:13] <kemik> :)
[12:13] <holycow> man mplayer will give you a list of commands to play with
[12:14] <Stormx2> kemik: heh i called it you-bunt-oo for a few months
[12:14] <FHX> when it says boot:
[12:14] <FHX> is that where I type /dev/hda?
[12:14] <Stormx2> no
[12:14] <Stormx2> "badblocks /dev/hda"
[12:14] <Stormx2> without the quotes
[12:14] <FHX> Could not find kernel image: badblocks
[12:14] <FHX> boot:
[12:15] <FHX> that's what it says
[12:15] <Shibby> holycow, yeah but the command i wanna use is only supposed to fit to one file im playing temporary
[12:15] <Stormx2> ...
[12:15] <Stormx2> you sure you booted the CD and not grub?
[12:15] <FHX> what i did is i booted with the install cd
[12:15] <intelikey> FHX boot  and after it boots and wants you to select language   use   alt+f2
[12:15] <FHX> yeah, the install cd.
[12:15] <FHX> the ISo i downloaded and burned
[12:15] <intelikey> yes
[12:15] <Stormx2> Listen to intelikey
[12:15] <FHX> ok
[12:15] <FHX> ok
[12:15] <holycow> Shibby, i have no idea what that even means
[12:16] <Stormx2> xD holycow
[12:16] <intelikey> then  in the console that alt+f2 puts you in  run badblocks /dev/hda
[12:16] <holycow> Shibby, it sounds like you want mplayer to do something with a single media file?
[12:16] <FHX> ok
[12:16] <FHX> i did that
[12:16] <Shibby> holycow, right
[12:16] <intelikey> and it finished already ?
[12:16] <FHX> now it says: Busy box v1.00 Debian blah blah...Enter ' help' for a list of buil-incommands..~#
[12:17] <holycow> k. then do something like mplayer comand -option -option file.avi ... that is the format you are looking for
[12:17] <holycow> open up your terminal in apps / accessories and go for it
[12:17] <neo369> spricht hier jemand deutsch ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:17] <intelikey> FHX do you have the live cd ?   if so use it for that.
[12:17] <FHX> what's the live cd?
[12:17] <FHX> I don't think so..
[12:17] <intelikey> that answers that question....
[12:18] <FHX> sorry if I sound a complete idiot, i'm entirely new to this.
[12:18] <FHX> and doing a rather poor job i' mafraid.
[12:18] <intelikey> oh wait.  you have to load the partitioner befor it can check the drive.
[12:18] <FHX> ok so should I try alt+f2 only at the partition step?
[12:18] <intelikey> alt+f1  and select load partitioner
[12:19] <FHX> ok
[12:19] <intelikey> yes
[12:19] <FHX> i have to run through all the steps again before i can get to the partitioner?
[12:20] <FHX> alt+f1 doesn't bring up the menu
[12:20] <intelikey> should not
[12:20] <intelikey> eeek ?
[12:20] <intelikey> it doesn't ?
[12:20] <FHX> wait..
[12:20] <imc_> Hey, I'm in Germany running breezy (which I normally run in the states) and I have trouble logging into public wifi networks. I can pull IP addresses but not get out to even see the welcome page. this happened on T-Mobile and WLAM:802 (another commercial service) is this a known issue?
[12:20] <FHX> alt+f1 after i've done alt+f2?
[12:20] <FHX> or before?
[12:20] <FHX> if before, it doesn't work
[12:20] <intelikey> after :)
[12:20] <FHX> if after, it bring sme back to the same screen
[12:20] <intelikey> yes
[12:20] <FHX> "Press enter to activate this console"
[12:21] <FHX> pressed enter got that ~# thing appearing
[12:21] <intelikey> yes
[12:21] <imc_> Anyone on German wifi?
[12:21] <FHX> what do I do after the ~#?
[12:21] <FHX> ??
[12:22] <FHX> It's still not at the partition step yet. x.x
[12:22] <FHX> Hm..
[12:22] <marcin> imc_: hehe what's a difference between German wifi and any other wifi :D ?
[12:22] <intelikey> did it load the partitoner in tty1 ?   (tty1 is where alt+f1 takes you)
[12:22] <win[X] amp> its the same all of the world
[12:22] <win[X] amp> :D
[12:22] <FHX> I can' tload the partitioner
[12:22] <FHX> That's the problem.
[12:22] <FHX> alft+f1 takes me nowhere
[12:22] <FHX> it takes me to the language choosing menu
[12:22] <FHX> o.o
[12:23] <intelikey> yes choose the language
[12:23] <Effi> good morning
[12:23] <imc_> marcin, yes, that was what I wanted to know
[12:23] <Effi> does somebody use gmail-notify?
[12:23] <imc_> And the answer seems to be, "In Germany it don't work"
[12:23] <imc_> :)
[12:23] <FHX> ok chosen language, now location
[12:24] <FHX> do I choose location?
[12:24] <imc_> Seriously, I can pull an IP address but I cannot get a browser to pull the start page, nor can I ping things like yahoo.com
[12:24] <FHX> so basically i go through all the steps until I reach partition step?
[12:24] <intelikey> FHX until you get to the partitioner or can get a menu and go dirrectly to the load the installer/partitioner
[12:24] <imc_> I use this same machine in several countries but this is the first time in germany - and the first time I have had problems/
[12:24] <FHX> Ok
[12:25] <kemik> imc_:  you've got a working DNS server ?
[12:25] <kevinix> anyone here had experiences with dialup modems failing to find a carrier despite on windows the same modem finds it fine? i'm using the linuxant hsfmodem 'free' driver on an IBM r51e thinkpad
[12:25] <FHX> ok
[12:25] <FHX> i'm on the : Partition Disks step
[12:25] <FHX> now do I press alt+f2?
[12:25] <intelikey> ok now f2
[12:25] <imc_> kemik - can't see it. I ran ifconfig and see my ip, broadcast and mask
[12:25] <imc_> I sign on with DHCP so I assume they take care of it?
[12:25] <FHX> still not found
[12:26] <FHX> I typed: ~# badblock /dev/hd/
[12:26] <kevinix> i had one successful connection on this modem, but consecutive attempts fail to find a carrier, even dial.
[12:26] <holycow> kevinix, yeah, modems are notorious for that sort of this sort of thing.
[12:26] <FHX> and it said: /bin/sh: badblock: not found
[12:26] <intelikey> yes ok wait.
[12:26] <kemik> imc_:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <holycow> kevinix, they can be configured to work but require a good bit of poking around for some modems.  others will work fine.  unfortunately mostly all you can do is google up your particular model.  i know a non answer
[12:27] <uhga> ive got an athlon 64, should i choose opterhon/athlon64 as the processor family in the kernel config although i dont use ubuntu amd64, or would the "normal" ubuntu not work then?
[12:27] <kevinix> Holycow cheers
[12:27] <imc_> kemik, right, it's only specifying search local  at 127.0.0.1
[12:27] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda count=1024 bs=1024    <--- FHX  try that.
[12:27] <fu1crum> FHX: badblocks
[12:27] <imc_> But that's now, on this wired connection, kemik
[12:27] <fu1crum> with an 'S'
[12:27] <FHX> badblocks not found either
[12:28] <fu1crum> and /dev/hda
[12:28] <kemik> imc_:  well you should have some nameserver entries aswell. (and not 127.0.0.1 in search..)
[12:28] <FHX> all it says is badblocks not found
[12:28] <marcin> imc_: I'll guess but propably it's because your german ISP doesn't give you dns via dhcp properly
[12:28] <FHX> hda hd badblock badblocks
[12:28] <FHX> tried em all
[12:29] <intelikey> NOTE TO THE PACKAGERS badblocks should be on the install disk.
[12:29] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda count=1024 bs=1024    <--- FHX  try that.
[12:29] <imc_> kemik and Marcin, righto. Thanks. Any suggestions about ba name server I can specify in resolv.conf which I can use here in Germany>
[12:29] <imc_> ?
[12:29] <kemik> imc_:  the root-dns servers perhaps ;)
[12:29] <kemik> hiih
[12:29] <marcin> imc_: try to get info about dns ip's and set them manually
[12:29] <FHX> uh
[12:29] <imc_> Doh!
[12:29] <FHX> it has a longer message now
[12:29] <imc_> Thanks kemik and marcin!
[12:29] <kemik> imc_:  i can lend you mine, not sure it'll work tho
[12:30] <intelikey> FHX ?
[12:30] <marcin> imc_: you can test this with ping...
[12:30] <kemik> imc_:  see privmsg
[12:30] <marcin> imc_: just send few pings on some IP
[12:30] <FHX> Usage: dd [if=FILE]  [of=FILE]  [bx=N]  [count=N]  [skip=N]  [seek=N]  [conv=notrunc|noerror|sync] 
[12:30] <binks> hello all
[12:30] <uhga> ive got an athlon 64, should i choose opterhon/athlon64 as the processor family in the kernel config although i dont use ubuntu amd64, or would the "normal" ubuntu not work then?
[12:31] <marcin> imc_: and then some pings let's say www.google.com and you will know what's going on
[12:31] <intelikey> ok leave out the bs=1024 and try again.
[12:31] <intelikey> FHX ^
[12:31] <Stormx2> uhga: If you use the normal package, don't go for the athlon 64 setup
[12:31] <daschl> hey folks :)
[12:31] <FHX> nothing happens
[12:31] <Stormx2> hey daschl
[12:31] <FHX> it literally just enters one line down
[12:31] <uhga> Stormx2, but the normal athlon is ok?
[12:32] <binks> does anyone no how to adjust the inner print diameter for a printable cd
[12:32] <intelikey> good now alt+f1
[12:32] <Stormx2> uhga: Should be yes
[12:32] <uhga> ok thanks :)
[12:32] <FHX> okie now i'm at the partition disks step
[12:32] <intelikey> and try to set up a partition FHX    you just blanked the mbr and partition table.
[12:32] <FHX> i can't
[12:32] <FHX> i don't have any options
[12:33] <FHX> only: Partitioning method: Manually edit partition table
[12:33] <intelikey> tell it ok and when it errors out try again
[12:33] <Stormx2> FHX: Manually edit then
[12:33] <Stormx2> FHX: Make a large ext3 partition mounted on / and a much smaller swap partition mounted on /swap
[12:33] <FHX> ok so I press enter on the manually edit option and it gives me several options: Configure software RAID, Configure the LVM, Guided partitioning, Help on partitioning, Undo changes gto partitions, Finish partitioning and writre changes to disk
[12:34] <intelikey> finsh
[12:34] <intelikey> i know it will error out.
[12:34] <Stormx2> wait
[12:34] <Effi> i have mplayer installed and when I start gmplayer and error is displayed with following message: New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file. Can somebody tell me, what to do?
[12:34] <Stormx2> shouldn't he try Guided Partitioning?
[12:35] <intelikey> it will loop and give another shot at it.
[12:35] <FHX> guided partitioning doesn't work
[12:35] <Stormx2> K
[12:35] <FHX> it again brings me to a screen where the only option is to: Manually edi tpartition table
[12:35] <intelikey> manual
[12:35] <FHX> which spits out those same options again. x.x
[12:35] <Stormx2> Manual, then go to "finish"
[12:35] <FHX> ok
[12:35] <FHX> Now it says:
[12:36] <FHX> No root file system is defined. Please correcgt this from the partitioning menu.
[12:36] <mp3guy> hi, is there anyway to make it so that sticky notes always stay on the desktop?
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[12:36] <mendy> intelikey, do you know about  gnomebaker?
[12:36] <mendy> It deals with rw disks
[12:36] <intelikey> only used it one time mendy i'm cli mostly
[12:36] <mendy> I am using it now and it does all the read writing
[12:36] <holycow> Effi, right click on mplayer window go to fonts and select a new default font.  it cannot find the default font for some reason .. i'm not sure why maybe bad packaging
[12:36] <win[X] amp> how to update codec?
[12:36] <intelikey> xcdroast does too mendy
[12:37] <intelikey> and k3b
[12:37] <daschl> Effi: and you are able to run mplayer successfully out of the shell?
[12:37] <Effi> yes daschl
[12:37] <mendy> alright thanks I going now See you all later
[12:37] <Effi> thanks holycow, i try it
[12:37] <mp3guy> is there anyway to make it so that sticky notes always stay on the desktop?
[12:38] <FHX> ..
[12:38] <Effi> holycow, where can i find fonts?
[12:38] <daschl> e
[12:38] <daschl> Effi which fonts do you need exactly?
[12:38] <intelikey> FHX this may sound silly but push the power button and let the disk spin down then restart  and see if you can install
[12:39] <FHX> I have a restart button..i'll push that
[12:39] <Effi> daschl, mplayer says subfont.ttf
[12:39] <holycow> Effi, in your home dir in a folder labeled .fonts
[12:39] <intelikey> FHX it's not the same as a power down.
[12:39] <holycow> the toolkit used for gmplayer should show .folders by default as nautilus hides them
[12:40] <FHX> ok
[12:40] <Effi> holycow, i dont have such a folder
[12:40] <FHX> uh
[12:40] <FHX> it effectively turns my ocmputer off
[12:40] <daschl> effi i think i have a solution for you
[12:40] <FHX> Hm. *turns it bakc on*
[12:40] <holycow> Effi, pardon me, i setup mine to the following: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraBd.ttf
[12:40] <holycow> you can choose whatever is available to you
[12:41] <daschl> effi, look here: http://tuxrip.free.fr/installation_en.html -- and search for the words "symbolic link"
[12:41] <intelikey> i still say it sounds like a hardware problem....  and badblocks should be on every install disk  as well as memtest
[12:42] <Effi> ok thanks holycow and daschl
[12:42] <FHX> sigh.
[12:42] <intelikey> but they obviously are not.
[12:42] <daschl> kein problem effi ;)
[12:42] <FHX> well how do I fix this?
[12:42] <holycow> no worries
[12:42] <FHX> =/ Afraid I am.
[12:42] <Effi> he he,...danke dir daschl ;)
[12:42] <eth42> I have a weird problem: gdm restarts when I type the first letter of my password. what could that be??
[12:42] <FHX> Totally freaked. After this successful installation i won't be trying naything new for a while.
[12:42] <FHX> x.x
[12:42] <FHX> providing i evne manage to fix this
[12:42] <holycow> eth42, does it restart if you don't start typing?
[12:43] <Effi> mein schlechtes Englisch ist wohl verrterisch :D @ daschl`aut ?
[12:43] <eth42> holycow: no, only with the first type
[12:43] <daschl`aut> effi nein, man siehts an deiner adresse .t-ipconnect.de
[12:43] <wermut> I have a question regarding the .Xauthority file.
[12:43] <holycow> eth42, the only thing that i can think of is x is crashing, have you checked your logs?
[12:43] <wermut> How can I allow the X server to be started on other virtual terminals?
[12:43] <FHX> sigh.
[12:44] <FHX> Is there a way to fix this?
[12:44] <eth42> holycow: yes but I don't see anything serious
[12:44] <wermut> Gdm replaces the file every time it starts.
[12:44] <FHX> Clearly installation wont move forward, so how do I clean my entire disk and start from scratch?
[12:44] <eth42> holycow: and now the login worked without anything changed... wtf???!
[12:44] <kemik> FHX:  sounds like your disk is broken
[12:44] <holycow> eth42, have you tried just a plain vesa driver just as a stab in the dark? i've never heard of this
[12:44] <FHX> .
[12:44] <intelikey> FHX  the dd command cleared the disk  as well as anything i know of can.
[12:45] <FHX> =( Please tell me there is a way to fix it
[12:45] <holycow> eth42, well talking to us fixes most things magically
[12:45] <holycow> *cough*
[12:45] <holycow> :)
[12:45] <eth42> holycow: :-) I suppose it's not fixed yet
[12:45] <viv`d> is there a way to speed up my cd writers speed? its a 40x burner, but its only getting 20x speed, and the system claims its DMA is not enable, and when i enalbe with hdparm, one says its on, one off, and it stays at half speed
[12:45] <eth42> holycow: yesterday gdm wouldn't start
[12:45] <intelikey> FHX what have you got there now ?
[12:45] <FHX> Language screen
[12:45] <intelikey> any progress ?
[12:46] <johnnybezak> hye guys i just installed scribus on ubuntu, i don't use kde or any other qt apps, what packages should i install to "de-uglify" scribus?
[12:46] <eth42> holycow: only the wait-mouse pointer, the interface didn't come up until I removed the DPMS option... ????
[12:46] <holycow> eth42, i don't have the faintest clue except to say, try a different driver
[12:46] <FHX> Hm. *runs through steps agian*
[12:46] <eth42> holycow: yeah, probably..
[12:46] <intelikey> well go on with the install just like you thought it would work this time and i'll watch
[12:46] <FHX> ok
[12:46] <eth42> holycow: bit like windows :-)
[12:47] <win[X] amp> how 2 use bluetooth in ubuntu
[12:47] <holycow> eth42, please don't say such cruel things
[12:47] <win[X] amp> i  just in dmesg
[12:47] <holycow> :)
[12:47] <eth42> holycow: hehe
[12:47] <FHX> oMG
[12:48] <intelikey> ?
[12:48] <FHX> I HAVE NEW OPTIONS
[12:48] <FHX> *glomps intelikey*
[12:48] <FHX> Ok ok now I have these: Erase entire disk ... , Erase entire disk and use LVM..., Manually edit partition table
[12:48] <intelikey> manual
[12:49] <FHX> Okie
[12:49] <FHX> Hzah!
[12:49] <FHX> New things listed: IDE1 master (hda) - 40GB , #1 Primary 39.3GB et3, #5 logical 764.9MB Swap
[12:49] <intelikey> delete them both
[12:50] <irvin> !pastebin
[12:50] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:50] <intelikey> FHX delete them
[12:50] <FHX> Ok
[12:50] <FHX> all of them?
[12:50] <intelikey> you don't want damaged partitions
[12:50] <FHX> all three?
[12:50] <intelikey> yes
[12:51] <FHX> i can't delete the IDE1 master
[12:51] <intelikey> no that is the drive not a parition
[12:51] <FHX> Oh ok
[12:51] <FHX> the rest deleted ^^
[12:51] <FHX> do I select <goback>?
[12:51] <intelikey> yes
[12:51] <intelikey> no
[12:51] <intelikey> no
[12:51] <intelikey> no
[12:51] <intelikey> oops
[12:52] <FHX> er..
[12:52] <Effi> is there a partitioner resizer available for linux?
[12:52] <FHX> um.
[12:52] <intelikey> it's ok
[12:52] <FHX> should I delete them again?
[12:52] <apokryphos> intelikey: pelase don't flood
[12:52] <mwe> Effi: parted
[12:52] <intelikey> yes
[12:52] <FHX> then i go to: Finish partitioning and write changes to disk?
[12:52] <intelikey> it's ok
[12:52] <rosendahl_> mm can anyone tell me how I can uninstall a program installed in Wine ?
[12:52] <intelikey> no
[12:52] <kevinix> i have a vast number of "Unknown Device: ..." when running lspci on this laptop. is there any way to update my pci ID info  so as to be more useful?
[12:52] <rosendahl_> rosendahl_, maybe even uninstall Wine aswell
[12:53] <intelikey> FHX
[12:53] <rosendahl_> bleh
[12:53] <Effi> mwe, ok, thanks. I have the problem, that i think, 5 GB is to small for my / partition
[12:53] <intelikey> where you at right now.
[12:53] <intelikey> ?
[12:53] <FHX> mhm
[12:53] <FHX> oh
[12:53] <FHX> I just deleted all partitions
[12:53] <FHX> i'm on tha tscreen
[12:53] <intelikey> ok wait
[12:53] <FHX> where i can: undo changes to partitions, finish partitioning and write changes to disk, or <goback>, but if I select goback my changes aren't saved
[12:53] <mwe> Effi: yeah. depending on how much you install it might be to little. 5G is enough for a lot though
[12:54] <intelikey> select the drive and creat one partition  (primary  8 g)
[12:54] <intelikey> fhx
[12:54] <FHX> ok
[12:54] <FHX> select the IDE or pri/log?
[12:54] <intelikey> yes
[12:54] <intelikey> ide
[12:54] <christianp> hi all
[12:55] <FHX> uh all it did was to create an empty partition table
[12:55] <FHX> ?
[12:55] <kevinix> also is there _any_ equivalent to packages.debian.org for ubuntu? i know the package i need to get online on another ubuntu machine, but need to download it on another machine..
[12:55] <intelikey> ok not select the primarry and add a 8-10G partition
[12:55] <intelikey> now
[12:55] <FHX> create ne wpartition or automatically partition for free space?
[12:56] <intelikey> creat new
[12:56] <FHX> Hm..8-10g? not the full?
[12:56] <intelikey> not full
[12:56] <FHX> ok i'll do 9
[12:56] <intelikey> ok
[12:56] <Effi> how can i remove a zombie prozess?
[12:57] <FHX> Type for new partition primary or logical?
[12:57] <intelikey> primary
[12:57] <FHX> ok
[12:57] <FHX> location: beginning or end?
[12:57] <intelikey> biginning
[12:57] <FHX> okie done ^^
[12:57] <intelikey> use as /
[12:58] <intelikey> boatable
[12:58] <intelikey> format
[12:58] <FHX> ?
[12:58] <intelikey> select that partition and choose all those options FHX
[12:59] <hunger> What do I need to do to boot from a LVM root partition? /boot is on a non-LVM partition.
[12:59] <intelikey> there is a method to the madness,
[12:59] <FHX> I'm a bit confused
[12:59] <FHX> x.x sorry
[12:59] <FHX> how do I choose those options?
[01:00] <tRSS> can someone quickly remind me how to install a debian package (.deb file) from shell? is it dpkg -i package.deb?
[01:00] <yatesy> yes
[01:00] <FHX> Ok i'll type what the screen says:
[01:00] <intelikey> unless the partitioner has changed greatly from hoary FHX you should see options to the partitions you select.
[01:00] <FHX> Use as: Ext3 journaling file system
[01:01] <intelikey> yes
[01:01] <intelikey> mount as  /
[01:01] <intelikey> ?
[01:01] <ossie> yo ho ho
[01:01] <FHX> Mount point: / , Mount options: defaults, Label: / Reserved blocks: 5%, Typical usage: standard, Bootable flag: off, size: 9GB
[01:01] <FHX> that's what it says at the moment
[01:02] <intelikey> ok and no option to format... hmmm ok tell it you are finished with that one and you can move on
[01:02] <FHX> ok " Done setting up the partition" ?
[01:03] <FHX> Okies
[01:03] <intelikey> FHX first answer one question,  how much mem in that box ?
[01:03] <FHX> 80gb
[01:03] <FHX> no wait
[01:03] <FHX> no idea
[01:03] <LinuxKnight> peace out bbl
[01:03] <FHX> um. x.x
[01:03] <FHX> *is embarassed* I forgot..
[01:03] <intelikey> might better make a swap at the end of the drive of about 256m
[01:04] <FHX> ok
[01:04] <FHX> so create another partition?
[01:04] <intelikey> yes
[01:04] <intelikey> swap
[01:04] <FHX> primary/logical?
[01:04] <intelikey> log
[01:04] <FHX> end?
[01:04] <intelikey> yeah
[01:05] <FHX> Okie
[01:05] <FHX> oops, it says 255mb by accident..
[01:05] <intelikey> finish
[01:05] <FHX> okie
[01:05] <ossie> guys , im trying to make a simple script for ubuntu but i find it doesnt run with the right permission to move files, but i dont know how to set the permisions
[01:05] <foxpaul> does anyone here run ubuntu on an iiyama 19" crt monitor?
[01:05] <foxpaul> i'm using it, but the flicker is horrid
[01:06] <FHX> wait a second
[01:06] <mwe> ossie: run it with sudo then
[01:06] <FHX> my first partition has disappeared!
[01:06] <intelikey> FHX if it is formatting the partitons use  alt+f3  and watch for errors.
[01:06] <intelikey> ?
[01:06] <FHX> no it's back to the main screen
[01:06] <FHX> and it says: IDE 1 -40GB, pri/log 39.8GB, #5 logical 255.0MB @ ext3
[01:06] <FHX> it doesn't list the first partition of 9gb
[01:07] <FHX> and I think there's 40gb of space in this computer
[01:07] <saxmachine> Buonasera
[01:07] <saxmachine> anzi buongiorno
[01:07] <saxmachine> #ubuntu-it
[01:07] <intelikey> it's borked.
[01:07] <saxmachine> ops
[01:07] <FHX> should I try it again?
[01:08] <FHX> delete all partitions?
[01:08] <FHX> and then re-create?
[01:08] <intelikey> yeah that obviously wont work like it is.
[01:08] <FHX> hm..
[01:08] <FHX> hang on, won't kubuntu partition fo rme?
[01:08] <FHX> it partitioned fine the last time, i only encountered errors when copying files
[01:09] <foxpaul> i think i need to get my monitor running at 100hz to stop it flickering
[01:09] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can do that?
[01:09] <emphetamine> @roulette
[01:09] <intelikey> try it but the copying errors and the parition errors are both hardware problems there FHX
[01:09] <FHX> oh..
[01:10] <FHX> i thought maybe it was a disc-burning mistake i mdae
[01:10] <FHX> so i burned a new ocpy of the disk
[01:10] <FHX> i'll try it
[01:10] <FHX> okay so now i've deleted all partitions
[01:10] <intelikey> try it.  it wont cost you anything but time.
[01:10] <emphetamine> Seveas: say banik pyco
[01:10] <dukebody> I have a problem with my FTP server and my router. When i try to connect to my ftp server using my public ip adress i access to the router firmware-update utility instead of my ftp server. Should I allow other port to my ftp server?
[01:10] <FHX> I select: "finish partitioning and write changes to disk"
[01:10] <FHX> yeah, 8pm here. plenty of time.
[01:10] <intelikey> yes
[01:10] <FHX> =P
[01:10] <FHX> um.
[01:10] <FHX> Error
[01:10] <FHX> No root file system is defined
[01:11] <FHX> please correct this from the partitioning menu
[01:11] <intelikey> yes
[01:11] <FHX> Hm..
[01:11] <FHX> how do I correct it?
[01:11] <FHX> x.x
[01:12] <intelikey> make partitions again.   and hope they will write to disk this time...
[01:12] <FHX> ok, the same partitions?
[01:12] <intelikey> yeah
[01:13] <FHX> ok they're both listed now
[01:13] <FHX> but i didn't create tables on the IDE
[01:13] <FHX> should I have?
[01:13] <intelikey> no just go on
[01:13] <FHX> i only just remembered about that step..x.x
[01:13] <FHX> ok
[01:13] <FHX> O.O It's working!
[01:13] <intelikey> it should still be there
[01:13] <FHX> Oh.
[01:13] <FHX> no.
[01:13] <FHX> it doesn't work.
[01:14] <FHX> same error
[01:14] <FHX> how do I define root file system?
[01:14] <intelikey> stop right there and check the logs in  tty3  and tty4
[01:14] <FHX> how?
[01:14] <FHX> alt+f2?
[01:15] <intelikey> yeah f3
[01:15] <intelikey> alt+f3
[01:15] <FHX> ok
[01:15] <intelikey> alt+f4
[01:15] <FHX> Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while
[01:15] <FHX> Huh?
[01:15] <FHX> F4?
[01:15] <jenda> alt+ctrl, no?
[01:15] <FHX> Um.
[01:15] <FHX> I did alt+f3
[01:15] <intelikey> jenda no
[01:15] <jenda> ok
[01:15] <intelikey> yes both ttys fhx
[01:15] <FHX> ok
[01:16] <FHX> so i do alt+f4 after alt+f3
[01:16] <aidehua> When installing, after my first boot into Ubuntu (Breezy), I forgot to have the CD in the drive, so I rebooted again with the disk in the drive, but the first-boot-install stuff didn't run.
[01:16] <intelikey> yes
[01:16] <FHX> Ok. I jus twait?
[01:16] <aidehua> Is "aptitude install ubuntu-deskotop" enough to get me going?
[01:16] <intelikey> jenda the ctrl key is only required to get you out of X
[01:16] <intelikey> FHX what error messages are there ?
[01:17] <FHX> um..none
[01:17] <FHX> it's not doing anything
[01:17] <kane77> hello everybody...
[01:17] <intelikey> it should have the reason the partitioner failed in one of those ttys
[01:17] <FHX> it just says: Dec 27 19:51:57 main-menu[4872] : DEBUG: virtual package harddrive-detection
[01:18] <FHX> thats for the alt+f4
[01:18] <intelikey> ok and the other says ?
[01:18] <FHX> should I hit alt+f3 again ?
[01:18] <FHX> to go back to that one?
[01:18] <intelikey> yes
[01:18] <FHX> it still says: Reading all physical volumes. This may tkae a while..
[01:18] <kane77> Does anyone know of some program that would ping multiple ip's?? Or some tool to find out who is online on LAN?
[01:18] <intelikey> no E; some reason ....
[01:19] <intelikey> FHX lets try one time to partition by hand.
[01:19] <FHX> okay
[01:19] <intelikey> alt+f2
[01:19] <intelikey> enter
[01:19] <FHX> yep
[01:19] <FHX> ~#
[01:19] <intelikey> fdisk /dev/hda
[01:19] <daschl`aut> i want to install the daily build but im afraid to do so ;)
[01:20] <FHX> command (m fo rhelp):
[01:20] <intelikey> m
[01:20] <intelikey> lol
[01:20] <aidehua> kane77: ping your network's broadcast address
[01:20] <FHX> okie it listed a whole bunch of alphabets and what each one stands for
[01:20] <FHX> then it says: command (m for help):
[01:20] <kane77> aidehua: ??? how to do it??
[01:20] <intelikey> ok use the p to print the table   is there any partitions ?
[01:21] <FHX> how do I tell?
[01:21] <intelikey> p
[01:21] <FHX> I'll type it all out
[01:21] <intelikey> no
[01:21] <FHX> Under Device boot?
[01:21] <FHX> it says: /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, /dev/hda5
[01:21] <aidehua> kane77: if your netmask is 255.255.255.0, then change an IP address on your network to have .255 at the end, and ping that.  (e.g. ping 192.168.1.255)
[01:22] <intelikey> ok q
[01:22] <FHX> start 1, 4834, 4835
[01:22] <FHX> ~#
[01:22] <kane77> aidehua: thx I'll try it...
[01:22] <intelikey> mke2fs -cfj /dev/hda1
[01:23] <FHX> mke2fs: invalid fragment size - j
[01:23] <kane77> aidehua: what does DUP! mean?
[01:23] <intelikey> mke2fs -cf -j /dev/hda1
[01:23] <intelikey> mke2fs -c -f -j /dev/hda1
[01:23] <intelikey> even
[01:23] <aidehua> kane77: it means that for every "ping" you send out, you are getting reply ("DUPlicates").
[01:23] <FHX> invalid fragment size for all
[01:24] <intelikey> ok leave the -f out
[01:24] <aidehua> kane77: I meant "you are getting 'more than 1' reply".  sorry
[01:24] <hunger> FHX: WHy aren't you using mkfs.ext3?
[01:24] <FHX> whoa
[01:24] <FHX> Creating journal (32768)
[01:24] <intelikey> hunger cause the install disk only has busybox
[01:24] <hunger> intelikey: Oh...
[01:24] <FHX> This file system will be automatically checked every 29 mounts or 180 days whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[01:25] <FHX> ~#
[01:25] <intelikey> mkswap /dev/hda5
[01:25] <hunger> Anyone managed to install ubuntu on a LVM root?
[01:25] <FHX> settinpg up swap space version 1, size = 254976000 bytes
[01:25] <aidehua> Yikes: looks like the "ubuntu-desktop" virtual package installs *oodles* more than the normal post-installation stuff installs.
[01:25] <intelikey> FHX back to tty1
[01:26] <FHX> alt+f3?
[01:26] <Moodles> I know my monitor supports 1280x***, but Gnome only gives me 1024x768 as higher resolution.. how can I get the resolutions above 1024x768?
[01:26] <intelikey> f1    continue
[01:26] <FHX> ok
[01:26] <daschl`aut> Moodles: edit your xorg config
[01:26] <kane77> aidehua: does that mean that the ip is offline? cause I get a lot of those and I don't think that there is so much people online...
[01:26] <FHX> brings me back to that screen that lists my partitions
[01:26] <intelikey> FHX the tty number is the same as the function key number  fyi
[01:26] <mwe> !resolution
[01:26] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:27] <intelikey> yes skip it
[01:27] <FHX> ah okay, i see
[01:27] <aidehua> kane77: it means that those people are *online*, because they are sending responses to your ping.
[01:27] <intelikey> move down to the install the base system.
[01:27] <mwe> Moodles: and what ubotu just said
[01:27] <hunger> kane77: It means that two computers reply to the same request (== probably have the same IP).
[01:27] <FHX> so i hit <goback>?
[01:27] <intelikey> yes
[01:27] <FHX> ok
[01:27] <ajeet> Hello, I just installed Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos to my Home directory with WINE, but when I goto play it I get a "retry, cannot detect CD-ROM drive, please insert CD and try again", why is this?
[01:27] <hunger> kane77: Or that you are sending a broadcast to all machines.
[01:27] <FHX> selected install base system
[01:27] <intelikey> yes
[01:27] <FHX> it brings me back to the screen that lists my partitons
[01:28] <mwe> ajeet: I don't know. with some games you need a no-cd patch in order to play them in wine
[01:28] <alexandre> Hi there! I have a freshly installed Ubuntu box and I'd like to be able to compile small C and C++ programs. The thing is, "cc" and "g++" don't seem to be installed by default. So I went to Synaptic and installed g++, which in turn installed g++-4.0, gcc, gcc-4.0 and libstdc++6... But I still can't compile a simple Hello World because it can't find stdio.h. Am I missing something here? Do I need to install another package to get my inc
[01:28] <alexandre> ludes?
[01:29] <Davey> alexandre: seach in synaptic for build
[01:29] <Davey> you're looking for something like build-essentials
[01:29] <kyncani> ajeet: and i think war3 roc works with a no-cd patch
[01:29] <hunger> alexandre: Install build-essentials (might be spellt differently though;-)
[01:29] <ajeet> mwe: any ideas where to find such a patch?
[01:29] <mwe> alexandre: install build-essential
[01:29] <mwe> ajeet: gamecopyworld.com maybe
[01:29] <intelikey> you are not selecting the primary partition as /  or something.... FHX   i'm bout out of help for the day.... try the partitioner again but only select the main one and options then finish
[01:29] <ajeet> cheers
[01:29] <FHX> wait
[01:29] <niklash> I have something using CPU cycles and not showing up in top, atop or gnome-system-monitor. How can I find out what it is?
[01:29] <ColonelKernel> what do I need to do to be able to apt-get install rcconf?
[01:29] <FHX> try partitioner again?
[01:30] <FHX> x.x you're leaving..
[01:30] <FHX> hm. when will you be back?
[01:30] <niklash> Acording to top, I have about 20% user cpu time, but no process uses more than 1-2%
[01:30] <intelikey> yes but only the primary .  don't delete it. just select it as root /  and then select finish partitioning
[01:30] <FHX> how?
[01:30] <ColonelKernel> I gotta add multiverse and universe
[01:30] <FHX> as in how do i select it as root /?
[01:31] <ubuntu> Hey all.
[01:31] <intelikey> use as /
[01:31] <FHX> mount point: /home
[01:31] <intelikey> no /
[01:31] <intelikey> not home
[01:31] <FHX> how do I change it to /?
[01:31] <intelikey> yes
[01:31] <FHX> how?
[01:31] <FHX> it won't le tme change it
[01:31] <ubuntu> I installed kubuntu just now and I think I borked the gui trying to fix the resolution problem.
[01:31] <intelikey> it will highlight it and enter
[01:32] <FHX> ok i've changed it
[01:32] <FHX> can i go back to base installs now?
[01:32] <intelikey> finish partitioning
[01:32] <FHX> ok
[01:32] <FHX> hang on
[01:32] <FHX> my second partition is /usr
[01:32] <FHX> is that correct?
[01:32] <intelikey> ok
[01:32] <FHX> ok i'll selecgt finish partitioning now..
[01:32] <funkyHat> :S
[01:32] <funkyHat> Seems a very complicated setup
[01:32] <hunger> funkyHat: Who's?
[01:33] <ubuntu> I'm running off a live cd. Can anyone help me get Xorg running again without having me re-install the system?
[01:33] <FHX> it says I dont have a swap space
[01:33] <funkyHat> hunger, FHX's
[01:33] <FHX> do i change the 255mb to swap?
[01:33] <apokryphos> why a partition for /usr? Generally / and /home are good; maybe a /boot at times too
[01:33] <FHX> funkyHat don't worry i have a screwed ysstem
[01:33] <FHX> yours will be a lot easier
[01:33] <mwe> ubuntu: didn't you back up xorg.conf before editing it?
[01:33] <intelikey> funkyHat yes something is borked there  we had to dd zero the mbr for one thing...
[01:33] <hunger> funkyHat: I have way more partitions :-)
[01:33] <intelikey> still not sure it will install.
[01:33] <alexandre> Davey, hunger, mwe> All right! I can compile now. I'm a bit surprised, though, because the description says it's for building debian packages and it installs kernel headers. Is this normal?
[01:33] <funkyHat> intelikey, FHX, right... still don't see why he needs a separate /usr though ;)
[01:33] <FHX> without a swap or with?
[01:34] <ubuntu> mwe I think so. the instructions I used had me sudo cp xorg.conf or something like that.
[01:34] <FHX> ..
[01:34] <FHX> gah hang on
[01:34] <hunger> alexandre: Yes.
[01:34] <FHX> so i keep everything as is and not have a swap?
[01:34] <mwe> ubuntu: yeah. then copy back the backup
[01:34] <intelikey> funkyHat i just let that slide...... to tired to mess with it if it works.
[01:34] <hunger> alexandre: The kernel headers are integrated into the standard libc headers.
[01:34] <mwe> ubuntu: and try again
[01:34] <funkyHat> hunger, lol, why though? ( have about 10 partitions, but they aren't like that...)
[01:34] <FHX> ..
[01:34] <eth42> where is the locale setting stored? (I think I chose en_GB during setup but now it is en_US. where can I change this?)
[01:34] <funkyHat> intelikey, good poitn
[01:34] <funkyHat> *point
[01:34] <FHX> um.
[01:34] <mjr> eth42, /etc/environment
[01:35] <hunger> alexandre: And building debian packages does not differ at all from building "normal" apps.
[01:35] <FHX> so I don't choose their option to return to partitioningmenu
[01:35] <eth42> mjr, thanks
[01:35] <hunger> funkyHat: Because I need to:-)
[01:35] <FHX> Okay now it says:
[01:35] <alexandre> hunger: OK, thanks a lot!
[01:35] <funkyHat> hunger, hehe, fair enough then
[01:35] <FHX> The attempt ot mount a file esystem at /usr failed. You may resume partitioning from the partitioning menu. Do you want to resume partitioning?
[01:35] <intelikey> FHX the extended was supposed to be swap.
[01:35] <FHX> ok
[01:35] <intelikey> and you made it usr
[01:35] <hunger> funkyHat: I want some data encrypted for privacy reasons and others unencrypted for speed reasons, etc.
[01:35] <intelikey> undo taht.
[01:35] <intelikey> that
[01:36] <FHX> ok how do I make it swap?
[01:36] <FHX> it doesn't have it under the options
[01:36] <funkyHat> use as: select swap
[01:36] <FHX> okay
[01:36] <intelikey> it is just select it and use as swap   in place of use as /usr
[01:36] <funkyHat> it's not a filesystem, it's a use as: option
[01:37] <mwe> just read what the choises say. it's pretty obvious what to do if you read it
[01:37] <FHX> okay now it's installing the base system
[01:37] <FHX> I pray to God it works
[01:37] <aidehua> !pray
[01:37] <ubotu> I don't know, aidehua
[01:37] <ROBOd> any of you got Mathematica 5 on Ubuntu?
[01:37] <aidehua> ubotu: I share your beliefs
[01:37] <ubotu> aidehua: I don't know
[01:37] <eth42> my stickynotes applet often crashes when Gnome is started. does anyone else have this problem?
[01:37] <aidehua> ubotu: *exactly*
[01:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, aidehua
[01:37] <rosendahl_> how can I bring up the GUI in Wine ?
[01:37] <funkyHat> mwe, I can understand the fact that swap doesn't have a filespace being confusing though
[01:37] <intelikey> FHX good luck with it. i leave you in the capable hands of these fine people.
[01:37] <funkyHat> ack *filesystem
[01:38] <mwe> funkyHat: yeah maybe
[01:38] <FHX> intelikey okay thanks so much for your help, i'll hang around these forums a bit more
[01:38] <intelikey> welcome/
[01:38] <FHX> I appreciate it very much, hopefully whenever I next meet you I'll have good news
[01:39] <ubuntu> So how do I make sure two files match from the cli?
[01:39] <funkyHat> hunger, which filesystems can use encryption?
[01:39] <funkyHat> ubuntu, use md5sum on both of them
[01:39] <ubuntu> thank you sir.
[01:40] <hunger> funkyHat: All of them.
[01:40] <FHX> ubotu: wow, you are very polite. "sir"
[01:40] <ubotu> FHX: what are you talking about?
[01:40] <ubuntu> beautiful. Thank you for the help.
[01:40] <hunger> funkyHat: Devicemapper handles the encryption "under" the filesystem.
[01:40] <ubuntu> gnight.
[01:40] <FHX> ubotu: i have a messed up hard drive and have been having horrible errors
[01:40] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, FHX
[01:40] <funkyHat> hunger, oh... cool. lol
[01:40] <FHX> ubotuOH
[01:41] <FHX> sorry
[01:41] <FHX> i was referring to Ubuntu
[01:41] <FHX> apologies.
[01:41] <funkyHat> !ubotu
[01:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:41] <FHX> o.o
[01:41] <FHX> it's a bot?!
[01:41] <FHX> O.O
[01:41] <FHX> Wow okay. XD
[01:41] <apokryphos> slightly misleading factoid. It's ok to play with him in #debian-bots 8)
[01:42] <FHX> XD i didn't know it was a bot
[01:42] <funkyHat> ubotu smokes way too much crack to be regarded as a bot though
[01:42] <ubotu> funkyHat: What?
[01:42] <funkyHat> :D
[01:42] <FHX> haha. That'very amusing.
[01:42] <BuFF> how could i view xp files in ubuntu ? i heard there is such a program wine but i dunno how to use it
[01:42] <BuFF> help
[01:43] <funkyHat> BuFF, what are you trying to do exactly?
[01:43] <Ticho> hunger: what would that accomplish for you ?
[01:43] <BuFF> i want to view word files
[01:43] <slownix> ehlo
[01:43] <Ticho> hunger: do you need API docs for all the libraries ?
[01:43] <hunger> Ticho: Having lots of docs available when offline.
[01:43] <funkyHat> BuFF, you can do that with Open Office
[01:44] <BuFF> how
[01:44] <slownix> Is there a ubuntu 64 yet
[01:44] <hunger> Ticho: It was just easier to install everything then going ofer the huge list;-)
[01:44] <BuFF> i have now permissions to view 'em
[01:44] <funkyHat> BuFF, it should be installed already, just opening the word file shoulw work
[01:44] <rosendahl_> #wineHQ
[01:44] <funkyHat> slownix, yes, always has been
[01:44] <FHX> is there a way for me to save this entier conversation?
[01:44] <funkyHat> *should
[01:44] <Ticho> hunger: well, if you can spare the disk space, why not? :>
[01:45] <slownix> funkyHat: for amd 64 ? awsome do you know if they solved that mutliarch issue /
[01:45] <FHX> anybody know?
[01:45] <Ticho> FHX: that depends on the irc client you're using right now
[01:45] <FHX> mIRC
[01:45] <FHX> i downloaded specially to get help
[01:45] <FHX> XDD
[01:45] <FHX> took me a while to figure out how to get here
[01:45] <funkyHat> slownix, which issue was that? I don't have any a64 hardware, I just know there is a 64 bit version ;)
[01:45] <Ticho> i cannot help you with that, i don't know how to use it
[01:45] <FHX> oh.
[01:45] <FHX> okay
[01:45] <slownix> funkyHat: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id272321 just read like first few lines.
[01:45] <hunger> Ticho: Usually I really like having all the stuff with me... but currently I need to move the /usr partition and copying all that stuff takes AGES;-)
[01:46] <slownix> funkyHat: the first few tops lines
[01:46] <funkyHat> FHX, probably highlight it all, press ctrl+c and then paste it in notepad or something
[01:46] <FHX> i can't highligh tit all
[01:46] <FHX> it gets deselected the moment i unclick
[01:46] <slownix> funkyHat: it can put it in shorter words then I can
[01:46] <FHX> and everyone keeps talking..
[01:46] <FHX> so it's difficult to highlight
[01:47] <gudi> gi
[01:47] <gudi> anyone can help me to get my ati to work with big desktop mode ?
[01:47] <funkyHat> slownix, I have no idea
[01:47] <slownix> funkyHat: same here lol
[01:47] <gudi> its working but i want to have the gnomepanel on my second screen not the lcd of the laptop
[01:47] <wizardjames> ok, fresh install just trying to get things all working..   got around to trying to setup dhcp..  but when i go to restart it. it says fail, fail.       somewere i am missing the settings up
[01:48] <funkyHat> slownix, I think all the same packages are available for the AMD64 version though... and I'm pretty sure you can still run 32bit binaries on it
[01:48] <slownix> k
[01:48] <funkyHat> actually... yeah you can, because lots of people use the 32bit firefox because of the flash plugin (stoopid macromedia/adobe)
[01:48] <slownix> funkyHat: I just cant wait to try out a dual core opteron 64bit on it :) nix is gona scream
[01:49] <funkyHat> nice
[01:49] <Ce_Dreaku> hello guys, can anybody tell me how to upload on ftp or tell me the name of a good program to do this, I mean access the  ftp account of my website
[01:49] <slownix> funkyHat thanxs for the help
[01:49] <gudi> Ce_Dreaku, gftp
[01:49] <funkyHat> np
[01:49] <Ce_Dreaku> thanks gudi I'll look it up
[01:50] <funkyHat> Can anyone help me with creating a virtual device in .asoundrc?
[01:50] <Ce_Dreaku> Where do I find GFTP?
[01:50] <yancheng> helo guys :) i try to burn my DVD through gnomebaker, but it said that i am not root. hence, i need to sudo everytime i need to burn my DVD, any solution? i am using hoary :D
[01:50] <gudi> Ce_Dreaku, look on freshmeat.org
[01:51] <funkyHat> Ce_Dreaku, system > administration > synaptic
[01:51] <Ce_Dreaku> it isn't in synaptic
[01:51] <funkyHat> !tell Ce_Dreaku about repos
[01:51] <uber_spaced> I have a strange network problem
[01:52] <uber_spaced> when I run dhclient manually, my second interface, eth1 gets 'unconfigured'
[01:52] <FHX> I need help
[01:52] <funkyHat> FHX, any progress?
[01:53] <FHX> "Copying packages to the hard disk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the target /var filesystem, or your CD drive may be having problems reading packages from the CD. Cleaning the CD drive or burnig the CD at a lower speed may help.
[01:53] <FHX> funkyHat: excellent progress today, but i'm still having this error  from earlier installations. Any advise?
[01:53] <FHX> x.x
[01:53] <funkyHat> FHX, how big is your / partition?
[01:54] <FHX> 9GB
[01:54] <funkyHat> not that then
[01:54] <uber_spaced> how do I restart my network connections on ubuntu?
[01:54] <uber_spaced> the redhat equiv would be:
[01:54] <funkyHat> FHX, how did you get your install CD?
[01:55] <jhaig> Just trying to install Ubuntu (from an official CD).  First part went OK, but now it has rebooted and I have "crc error", " -- System halted".  Anyone have any idea why?
[01:55] <uber_spaced> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
[01:55] <FHX> yeah I've been having this error even when I used all 40gb to install Kubuntu
[01:55] <funkyHat> uber_spaced, look in /etc/init.d/
[01:55] <uber_spaced> funkyHat, thanks.
[01:55] <wizardjames> were do i find what ports i need  on my router  opend for apache to work?
[01:56] <bshumate> uber_spaced: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:56] <jhaig> wizardjames: 80 for normal http, and (I think) 443 for https.  Look in /etc/services for a full list.
[01:56] <uber_spaced> bshumate, thanks; that did it.  now if I can find a way to get dhclient to execute my firewall script on refresh, that would be great.
[01:56] <funkyHat> FHX, so you're getting the same error when using completely different discs to install?
[01:56] <FHX> er.
[01:56] <FHX> no
[01:56] <FHX> same disk
[01:57] <FHX> only now i only gave it 9gb, not all 40gb
[01:57] <funkyHat> FHX, I mean the CD
[01:57] <FHX> oh yeah. new cd
[01:57] <FHX> i burned it real slow this time
[01:57] <FHX> 1x
[01:57] <FHX> XD
[01:57] <funkyHat> ouch
[01:57] <FHX> to make sure that it was not the cd problem
[01:58] <funkyHat> FHX, order some CDs from shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <FHX> as you can see, i've been at it all day. XD
[01:58] <jhaig> No one have any suggestion as to why my machine has halted when rebooting during the install?  It freezes after "Uncompressing Linux..." with a "crc error".
[01:58] <FHX> i don't think it's the cd..
[01:58] <FHX> is it necessary for the packages to be copied?
[01:58] <funkyHat> FHX, as a just in case ;), and we'll carry on trying working on it now
[01:58] <FHX> Hehe okie
[01:58] <FHX> i'll look up the cd ordering after i get my computer sorted out
[01:58] <FHX> :P
[01:58] <funkyHat> lol
[01:59] <FHX> can I survive without it copying all the packages?
[01:59] <funkyHat> FHX, it depends... I can't remember the order, have you got past grub installation?
[01:59] <bSON> hi
[01:59] <funkyHat> hi bSON
[01:59] <FHX> ed API docs for all the libraries ?
 Ticho: Having lots of docs available when offline.
 BuFF, you can do that with Open Office
 how
 Is there a ubuntu 64 yet
 Ticho: It was just easier to install everything then going ofer the huge list;-)
[01:59] <FHX> ed API docs for all the libraries ?
 Ticho: Having lots of docs available when offline.
 BuFF, you can do that with Open Office
 how
 Is there a ubuntu 64 yet
[01:59] <wizardjames> jhaig,  since ubuntu is safe from attacks from the web..   unlike windows.   i can set my router to dmz the port for this computer?  open everything up?
[01:59] <bSON> does the fluendo mp3 plugin mean that we will have mp3 out of the box with the next ubuntu releases?
[01:59] <uber_spaced> ha
[01:59] <Ticho> someone's experimenting with copy/paste :>
[02:00] <apokryphos> FHX: don't flood; use a pastebin service.
[02:00] <FHX> sorry
[02:00] <funkyHat> wizardjames, you will be a lot safer using ubuntu on a DMZ than using windows
[02:00] <FHX> i was trying to post a link
[02:00] <funkyHat> FHX, oops, lol
[02:01] <FHX> funkyHat: which is the grub installation?
[02:01] <FHX> yeah, i got booted. *rubs sore ass* XD
[02:01] <apokryphos> =)
[02:01] <funkyHat> FHX, the bit about the boot loader, it'll ask you about windows XP or whatever if you have anything like that still installed
[02:01] <wizardjames> ok,   ..just gota remind myself to undmz this port when i use windows again (duel boot)
[02:01] <FHX> no i wiped windows xp
[02:01] <bshumate> wizardjames: that is not advisable. you should only forward in the ports you actually need incoming connections on.
[02:01] <FHX> i have nothing right now
[02:02] <funkyHat> wizardjames, why do you need to use the DMZ anyway?
[02:02] <jhaig> wizardjames: Opening everything up is generally a bad idea, even if your system is completely bullet-proof (which is very unlikely, although you are correct in saying that Linux is not a sieve like Windows ;-) )
[02:02] <FHX> XD which is why i 'm hoping hard that it will work
[02:02] <wizardjames> the router only lets me foward a few ports..  somethin like 8 , stupid imo.
[02:02] <FHX> so can I select continue?
[02:02] <wizardjames> but..   80, and 21 ?
[02:02] <FHX> or go back?
[02:03] <funkyHat> FHX, if there is a continue option, try it :)
[02:03] <FHX> okie
[02:03] <kingstar518> How to config JAVA's environment variable JAVA_HOME in ubuntu?
[02:03] <FHX> i'm doing itme zone now
[02:03] <FHX> it still says the copying packages thing failed, but nothing I can do about that
[02:03] <FHX> ...hm.my screen's blank
[02:03] <apokryphos> kingstar518: no need to do all that   -- just install the sun java debs
[02:03] <jhaig> wizardjames: Make sure your Linux machine has a firewall set up, but it is good to try to block everything you don't need on the router *and* the firewall.
[02:04] <omerlh> Hello
[02:04] <funkyHat> kingstar518, is that a normal environment variable? if so export JAVA_HOME variable
[02:04] <bSON> hi
[02:04] <wizardjames> ok..
[02:04] <omerlh> How can I use emerge? What is it?
[02:04] <funkyHat> jhaig, everything is already blocked by ubuntu
[02:04] <FHX> creating new user accounts..
[02:04] <FHX> configureing apt now..50%
[02:05] <bshumate> kingstar518: add a line in /etc/profile : JAVA_HOME = <path_to_java> ; export JAVA_HOME
[02:05] <jhaig> funkyHat: Good policy.  :-)
[02:05] <funkyHat> :)
[02:05] <FHX> Ah, it now says: installing grub boot loader
[02:05] <FHX> it ejecgted my cdrom
[02:05] <funkyHat> :)
[02:05] <bSON> omerlh: emerge is gentoo's packaging system. the packages are all source packages, compiled when installed
[02:05] <funkyHat> looking good FHX
[02:05] <FHX> WOOHOO!
[02:05] <mwe> or just export JAV_HOME='/path/to/java'
[02:05] <FHX> First stay of installation complete
[02:05] <FHX> w00t!
[02:05] <FHX> ^^
[02:06] <SirKillalot> is there a plugin for xmms to use it with my multimedia keys on my microsoft natural keyboard?
[02:06] <FHX> Now i can go take a long-deserved shower while it does its stuff
[02:06] <funkyHat> arg.... that's the one mwe... I got that a bit wrong lol
[02:06] <zx80user> Anybody able to get gnomad2 working with a Creative Zen? I can get it to work on Fedora Core 4 but not Ubuntu
[02:06] <omerlh> O.K. thanks.
[02:07] <aidehua> Hmmm.  Looks like one can't currently install Breezy on a machine that is networked!
[02:07] <bSON> omerlh: if you have to deal with emerge in some kind of way, you should ask in #gentoo
[02:08] <zx80user> aidehua ?
[02:08] <aidehua> Something about the archive being broken: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/2828181.html
[02:08] <ratm> im trying to install the original nvidia drivers, but he cant find that 'version.h' file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ewUmLt95.html
[02:08] <monique> bom dia
[02:09] <aidehua> I'm not actually net-installing -- I'm installing from a CD on a machine that is networked (so can access updates), and I'm sort of guessing that I'm having the same issues net-install people have :/
[02:09] <Zambba> I'm having problem with display refresh rate. I've changed it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I can't select 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz from KDE Control Center
[02:10] <aidehua> (Odd though, in that I managed to install on this machine just fine a few days ago.  Maybe a recent update has broken the installer.)
[02:10] <apokryphos> Zambba: have you selected that option in xorg.conf?
[02:10] <zx80user> aidehua I am not sure what you mean, if you mean you are having difficulties installing on a machine that is on a network then you shouldn't - cannot believe that is what you really mean though
[02:11] <zx80user> aidehua ah, maybe it is a recent update problem. Just try cd then apt-get upgrade
[02:11] <apokryphos> Zambba: in the dpkg-reconfigure, that is.
[02:11] <Zambba> I have selected it in dpkg-reconfigure.
[02:11] <apokryphos> Zambba: if X accepts it, then it should be listed as an option in krandrtray (or kcontrol, that is)
[02:12] <kingstar518> I've edit /etc/profile, join java's bin path,I've installed tomcat ,but when run tomcat's startup,Point out "Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined
[02:12] <kingstar518> At least one of these environment variable is needed to run this program
[02:12] <kingstar518> "
[02:12] <aidehua> zx80user: I'm installing Breezy on a machine with network access.  In the 'second stage' of the install (the bit that happens after you boot for the first time) the base-config stuff is saying I have a dependency issue with libesd-alsa0 and libesd0, which stops the installation from proceeding :/
[02:12] <Zambba> And if X doesn't accept it?
[02:12] <apokryphos> then it wouldn't appear in there
[02:13] <bshumate> kingstar518: edit Tomcat's startup script and just set JAVA_HOME in there...
[02:13] <mwe> kingstar518: how do you start tomcat?
[02:13] <zx80user> aidehua, can you not just install off the CD then and then do an update?
[02:14] <Zambba> my monitors maximium is 2048 x 1536 @ 75Hz and recommendation is 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz so it should work
[02:14] <aidehua> zx80user: top tip -- I'm just trying that now :)
[02:14] <kingstar518> to sudo ./bin/startup.sh
[02:14] <zx80user> aidehua esd is the devil's work in any case :)
[02:14] <aidehua> zx80user: I did wonder what on earth it was doing in the 'standard install' :)
[02:14] <jepagodo> How can i root with the live-cd?
[02:15] <mwe> kingstar518: maybe sudo JAVA_HOME='/path/to/java' ./bin/startup.sh will work
[02:15] <kingstar518> thanks mwe, I'll try.
[02:15] <mwe> kingstar518: also after editing /etc/profile you should source /etc/profile for the current shell to reflect changes
[02:15] <zx80user> aidehua it is almost certainly in all distros actually, but it can lead to all sorts of problems when it goes bad
[02:16] <bshumate> jepagodo: use sudo <command>  (there is no password)
[02:16] <jepagodo> okay
[02:16] <aidehua> zx80user: do you think I should remove the network for the entire install process?  Do I need it for the first-step-intall-from-cd-bit?
[02:16] <mwe> kingstar518: env|grep JAVA will show if JAVA_HOME is indeed set in the shell
[02:16] <jepagodo> How can i delete things from my windows-partition?
[02:17] <jepagodo> It's read-only right now
[02:17] <aidehua> (All this because I wanted to change from silly-silly choice of ReiserFS back to more-stable ext3.  Gumf.)
[02:17] <HymnToLife> jepagodo > boot from windows
[02:17] <bshumate> kingstar518: yes, what mwe says....exit the current shell and start a new one to have it source /etc/profile, or do something like this from the prompt:  . /etc/profile
[02:17] <jepagodo> HymnToLife: windows has crasched, and i haven't got enough space to reinstall it
[02:17] <mwe> jepagodo: it's not safe to write to ntfs from linux
[02:17] <zx80user> aidehua I had no problem installing from a CD boot while on the network, but that was about a month ago, so unplug the network if you like but remember to configure the network card :)
[02:18] <jepagodo> mwe: is it possible?
[02:18] <mwe> jepagodo: not with the default install I believe
[02:18] <HymnToLife> jepagodo > then you can format your whole windows partition before reinstalling
[02:18] <ratm> i want to install the nvidia drivers, but it doesnt find the version.h file :\ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ewUmLt95.html
[02:18] <HymnToLife> ratm > install the kernel headers matching your current kernel version
[02:19] <cold> anyone know how to turn off randomize stack in ubuntu?
[02:19] <ratm> i did..it created that *deb file while compiling
[02:19] <bshumate> jepagodo: it is possible, but not recommended, and very dangerous.  you will cause more trouble than you've currently got now trying to write to windows ntfs from linux...
[02:20] <jepagodo> i use samba on another computer in my network, how do i mount a folder on that machine on this machine?
[02:20] <FHX> I have a problem
[02:20] <FHX> T_T
[02:20] <FHX> another one
[02:20] <willem> Hello, I've upgraded to dapper, but now my wireless card does not find my network. The card is recognized as a TI ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface, any pointers on where to look?
[02:20] <FHX> it's stuck at : Preparing for installation 0%
[02:21] <FHX> any ideas?
[02:21] <mwe> willem: I think some things in dapper are broken, since it's not released yet
[02:22] <FHX> ..
[02:22] <FHX> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:23] <willem> mwe: yeah, that's what i thought, but since the card is recognized i thought thare might be a way to figure out how to get it working again....
[02:23] <apokryphos> you won't get much help with dapper here. It's recommended that you do *not* use it.
[02:24] <FHX> ..
[02:24] <FHX> Um. Any ideas?
[02:24] <apokryphos> FHX: again, no reason to flood. If someone is able/willing to help, they will. :)
[02:24] <FHX> ok
[02:26] <sam_> good morning everyone
[02:26] <tRSS> mornin' sam!
[02:26] <jepagodo> how can i make the default user be able to access my windows-partition?
[02:26] <teroedni> willem:Have you tried ndiswarpper?
[02:26] <jepagodo> it just says "read-only-system" when i run chmod
[02:26] <sam_> how do i use the remote desktop application
[02:26] <teroedni> ndiswarapper
[02:27] <willem> apokryphos: ok...
[02:27] <tRSS> jepagodo: are you able to access the windows partition at all?
[02:27] <ratm> HymnToLife they're installed, but in /usr/src
[02:27] <jepagodo> tRSS: as root
[02:28] <willem> teroedni: yeah i did, didnt help though... also in breezy it just worked, and since the card is recognized i thought it to be a small problem in configuration...
[02:28] <tRSS> jepagodo: you mean only as root?
[02:28] <jepagodo> yep
[02:29] <tRSS> jepagodo: can you paste your fstab on pastebin so that I can take a look at it
[02:29] <willem> hmmm. now i see my breezy64 just performs a X reboot by itself on my other pc!
[02:29] <jepagodo> where do i find fstab?
[02:29] <tRSS> jepagodo: in /etc/
[02:30] <ratm> what can i do if my kernel headers are installed in /usr/src but the nvidia installer searches for them in /lib/modules/ ?
[02:30] <mrkoje> jepagodo,  just   cat /etc/fstab   and then copy and paste that into the pastebin
[02:31] <jepagodo> tRSS: http://jepagodo.org/fstab
[02:31] <HymnToLife> ratm > copy the files :p
[02:31] <HymnToLife> or make a symlink
[02:32] <ratm> thats what i also thought of..but ..in /lib/modules there is a dir for my current kernel
[02:32] <tRSS> jepagodo: just fstab to make sure you have this line: /dev/hda1       /media/windows     ntfs    ro,auto,user,nls=utf8,umask=0222        0       0
[02:33] <ratm> would a "--kernel-source-path" work?
[02:33] <HymnToLife> ratm > sure, that's what it's for :)
[02:33] <tRSS> jepagodo: if you have a fat32 partition then use vfat instead of ntfs
[02:33] <ratm> k...ill give it a atry ...thnks
[02:34] <GnarlyBob> lspci shows "Intel Corp. Unknown device" for almost everything after install of breezy :(
[02:35] <GnarlyBob> e.g. no network, no mouse, no sound
[02:37] <lamp_> what packages do i need to compile the nvidia driver with the nvidia installer
[02:37] <xandron_root> i installed some cvs modules in /lib/modules and the new kernel panics on boot, I can only boot with the old version how can I fix this?
[02:38] <aris> build-essential, linux-source
[02:38] <SirKillalot> howis the program called which is used by the keyboard shortcut to change the volume?
[02:38] <xandron_root> is there a way to reinstall the default ubuntu modules?
[02:42] !lilo:*! Added two new items to the freenode channel guidelines. See "Look for the best in people" and "Set a good example". Maybe intuitive stuff, but it never hurts to lay things out. http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml .... 
[02:44] <chaoticgeek> hello?
[02:44] <spiregrain> hello
[02:44] <gnomefreak> hi
[02:44] <chaoticgeek> I'm having problems with my time
[02:45] <spiregrain> not enough of it?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:45] <chaoticgeek> it is going about 4 times faster than what it is supposed to go
[02:45] <chaoticgeek> I had it set correctly about 3 minuets ago, but now its 11 minuets fast
[02:46] <gnomefreak> chaoticgeek, is the time in your bios right?
[02:46] <chaoticgeek> I have no clue what is worng, I turned on the seconds counter and the seconds go buy 4 times as fast then they should
[02:46] <chaoticgeek> I belive so
[02:47] <gnomefreak> is it default clock? :(
[02:47] <chaoticgeek> yes
[02:47] <spiregrain> very odd, I have no idea what that could be
[02:47] <chaoticgeek> when I boot to windows it works fine, except linux changes the time to the bios and so I have to reset the time but it works normaly
[02:47] <gnomefreak> me neither went through what i thought might cause it but i have never seen a clock go fast like that
[02:48] <gnomefreak> chaoticgeek, breezy or hoary?
[02:48] <chaoticgeek> 5.10
[02:48] <spiregrain> try a "/etc/init.d/ntpdate stop
[02:48] <spiregrain> ", see if that sorts it
[02:48] <chaoticgeek> updated too
[02:49] <chaoticgeek> ok
[02:49] <chaoticgeek> nothing changed
[02:50] <spiregrain> if the time you get from the "date" command also wrong
[02:50] <saekaater> Hello
[02:50] <saekaater> I have problem
[02:50] <saekaater> Grub gives error
[02:50] <saekaater> GRUB loading stage 1.5.
[02:50] <saekaater> GRUB hard disk error
[02:50] <randy> I have many problems
[02:50] <randy> xDDD
[02:50] <superpimp> hello
[02:50] <chaoticgeek> yes it is spiregrain
[02:51] <spiregrain> chaoticgeek- what type of computer is it?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell saekaater about grub
[02:51] <chaoticgeek> AMD sempron
[02:51] <chaoticgeek> its premade by HP/compaq
[02:52] <spiregrain> laptop?
[02:52] <chaoticgeek> desktop
[02:52] <superpimp> could anyone help me?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> chaoticgeek,  do you have another desktop environment set up other than gnome?
[02:53] <chaoticgeek> no
[02:53] <chaoticgeek> I could though
[02:53] <spiregrain> sorry, supperpimp, I Know Nothing about grub
[02:53] <gnomefreak> superpimp,  wasnt a grub issue was he?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> superpimp,  what is your issue?
[02:54] <superpimp> its ubuntu
[02:54] <superpimp> got some issues with LiveCD
[02:54] <gnomefreak> can you be lil less general?
[02:54] <chaoticgeek> gnomefreak: I tried sudo apt-get xfce4 but I got an error; "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 28 23:57:09 2005"
[02:54] <jenda> AKA more specific :(
[02:54] <jenda> *:)
[02:54] <spiregrain> chaoticgeek- does this look helpful http://ensode.net/no_timer_check.html ?
[02:54] <superpimp> well, when I boot with LiveCD it says Controller is using wrong IRQ
[02:55] <superpimp> and doesnt boot
[02:55] <mikelo> anybody know how to install original mdbtools?
[02:55] <mikelo> not from synaptic
[02:56] <superpimp> any ideas?
[02:56] <chaoticgeek> thanks that should help it seems
[02:56] <gnomefreak> mikelo,  im assuming youve tried apt-get install mdbtools?
[02:56] <chaoticgeek> I wont get to test it out yet cuz I'm d/ling something
[02:56] <HeartBT> sorry, wrong x
[02:58] <mikelo> actually i haven't the thing is that i need odbc support
[02:58] <mikelo> i'll try that right now
[02:59] <chaoticgeek> ok, is there a way to change grub w/ out being root?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> mikelo, this maybe a stupid question but why do you want to know how to install something if you dont know if it will fix your problem?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:59] <chaoticgeek> I can not do sudo at all, I keep getting an error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 28 23:57:09 2005
[02:59] <chaoticgeek> "
[02:59] <gnomefreak> try sudo -i see what it says
[03:00] <chaoticgeek> same thing
[03:00] <malv> can anyone recommend a solid wireless adaptor that works well under high throughput conditions?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> and other than booting into grub i dont know anyway of changing any "root" owned files without sudo
[03:01] <mikelo> gnomefreak, i need to set up an odbc connection with an mdb db
[03:01] <malv> i just broke my last wireless card which was based off a ralink chipset
[03:01] <malv> last time I buy any card using a ralink chipset
[03:01] <mikelo> the standard install does not furnish the adequate mdb drivers
[03:02] <gnomefreak> and im assuming youve tried #windows?
[03:02] <spiregrain> chaoticgeek- use the date command to change the date back the the distant past
[03:02] <mikelo> another question: how do i tell ubuntu to exec some prog every time i boot
[03:02] <mikelo> #windows was empty
[03:03] <braniff> is there an iptables UI distributed with ubuntu 5.10 ??
[03:03] <gnomefreak> braniff, yes if you mean gui
[03:03] <bshumate> braniff: you can install firestarter
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !firestarter
[03:03] <ubotu> well, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[03:03] <braniff> oh ok, thank you
[03:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:05] <FHX> funkyHat MY INSTALLATION WORKED!
[03:05] <FHX> *apologizes for caps*
[03:05] <FHX> XD
[03:05] <superpimp> :p
[03:05] <funkyHat> FHX, :D cool
[03:05] <spiregrain> fhx++
[03:06] <superpimp> could anyone help me?
[03:06] <FHX> =D Love it muchly
[03:06] <FHX> *glomps everyone*
[03:06] <hunger> How can I check the integrety of all installed debs? Or to reinstall everything?
[03:06] <michal_> how can I create a desktop shortcut to a folder?
[03:06] <saekaater> What should I do when grub gives hard disk error?
[03:06] <Blissex> saekaater: cry.
[03:06] <superpimp> lol
[03:06] <saekaater> I have try that
[03:06] <saekaater> But i dont help
[03:07] <saekaater> *it
[03:07] <saekaater> *it
[03:07] <superpimp> :p
[03:07] <Blissex> saekaater: well, it is not supposed to help, just a natural reaction :-)
[03:07] <hunger> FHX: Congratulations!
[03:07] <ElitePete> michal_, right click a folder, select create link then drag the link to the desktop
[03:07] <Blissex> saekaater: the best thing is to use a bootable CD and test if you can access the disk from it.
[03:07] <hunger> FHX: Mine still does not boot.
[03:07] <mikelo> another question: how do i tell ubuntu to exec some prog every time i boot
[03:07] <Blissex> hunger: 'debsums'
[03:07] <superpimp> hello
[03:07] <raptoid> lkj
[03:08] <hunger> Blissex: Thanks!
[03:08] <superpimp> anyone? :p
[03:08] <spiregrain> mikelo- what type of prog?
[03:08] <Blissex> mikelo: you create a script, put it in '/etc/init.d', and then use 'update-rc.d' to make it run in the runlevels you choose.
[03:08] <saekaater> Blissex my hard disk works well and I can access it
[03:09] <superpimp> hello
[03:09] <Blissex> saekaater: so which exact error does GRUB give you?
[03:09] <superpimp> lol
[03:09] <Blissex> superpimp: specific questions pls
[03:09] <saekaater> GRUB lodagin stage 1.5.
[03:09] <saekaater> GRUB hard disk error
[03:09] <superpimp> well, when I boot with LiveCD it says Controller is using wrong IRQ
[03:09] <gnomefreak> i just googled odbc in linux and the first one is a good place to start "if google isnt your freind make freinds with it" very very helpful
[03:09] <bshumate> mikelo: or just add your program to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script
[03:09] <mikelo> ok thanx
[03:09] <mikelo> kewl
[03:10] <superpimp> what could be the problem?
[03:10] <Blissex> saekaater: uhm very vague but that could mean that the disk has some bad sector exactly in the area in which GRUB puts the 1.5 and 2 stage boot files.
[03:10] <Blissex> superpimp: thats a bit better, but still a bit too vague.
[03:10] <spiregrain> mikelo - blissex's answer will work well for non-gui things.  But for deskop apps, it's better to use the Preferences / Session program
[03:10] <superpimp> well
[03:10] <superpimp> I cant say more cause after that it just stops booting :p
[03:11] <mikelo> ok
[03:11] <Blissex> superpimp: ah, so it is a bit deadly.
[03:11] <zool2005> here's a daft question, how can I change my text colour with X-Chat?
[03:11] <superpimp> yes it is
[03:11] <Blissex> mikelo: in any case the Debian site has a page of docs on ''the boot concept'' as it is called
[03:11] <gnomefreak> how many cd roms do you have if more than one did you try both super?
[03:11] <Blissex> superpimp: which IRQ does it mention?
[03:11] <mwe> zool2005: I believe in the options dialog?
[03:11] <superpimp> euh
[03:12] <superpimp> I got 15 cd's
[03:12] <Blissex> gnomefreak: in any case #x-chat
[03:12] <mikelo> excellent
[03:12] <superpimp> but I'm not at home and I only brought 1
[03:12] <spiregrain> super - you could try pplaying about in your bios- things like plug'n'play settings can affetc it
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Blissex, #x-chat?
[03:12] <superpimp> It says: controller is probably using wrong IRQ and then it stops
[03:12] <superpimp> spiregrain, what do you mean?
[03:13] <Blissex> gnomefreak: there is a fairly popular channel for X-Chat users... I think it is called #X-Chat indeed, and its /topic will have pointers to the config FAQ etc.
[03:13] <Sarky> Hi - I have some trouble with Ubuntu and my network card, can anyone help me?
[03:13] <benplaut> where is the System menu stored?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Blissex, im not having issues with xchat :(
[03:13] <Blissex> superpimp: that a ''controller'' is usijng the wrong IRQ is improbable. Which IRQ does it mention?
[03:13] <benplaut> ~/.config/menus/settings.menu only says to merge with itself :/
[03:13] <Blissex> gnomefreak: sorry, I thought you were the one asking about colors in X-Chat.
[03:14] <superpimp> I dont really now, I'm on winxp now so
[03:14] <mwe> Blissex: that was zool2005
[03:14] <Blissex> mwe: oops
[03:14] <Blissex> zool2005: sorry, that #X-Chat was for you
[03:14] <gnomefreak> nope not me im used to bitchx lol just on xchat cause its easier on eyes
[03:14] <zool2005> cheers
[03:15] <spiregrain> superpimp - this guy ( http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=375949 ) had a similar problem and fixed it by "bios, I switched my IDE config from Latency mode to Native mode, which moved my drive order around and freed up another irq. With this said, I popped the Knoppix CD back in the drive (after fishing it out of the trash) and it booted up perfectly!"
[03:15] <Blissex> superpimp: if it works under MSW XP and not under Ubuntu it is pretty weird.
[03:15] <saekaater> Blissex: how can i test is there any bad sectors in my hard disk?
[03:15] <superpimp> euh
[03:15] <Sarky> Hi - anyone here who can help me please?
[03:15] <Blissex> superpimp: try to boot with the usual ''mess around with IRQ'' parameters, like 'pci=biosirq' for example.
[03:15] <superpimp> the problem is I cant boot Ubuntu
[03:15] <spiregrain> saekaater- fsck
[03:15] <saekaater> whats that?
[03:15] <zool2005> #X-Chat
[03:16] <Blissex> saekaater: there is a utility called 'badblocks', or the '-c' parameter to 'fsck'.
[03:16] <gnomefreak> the command for checking disk
[03:16] <funkyHat> Sarky, it's best just to ask about your problem specifically
[03:16] <spiregrain> fsck = file system check
[03:16] <Sarky> Ubuntu refuses to detect my Netgear FA310-TX Ethernet device, modprobe tulip had no effect
[03:17] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Sarky,  wired or wireless?
[03:18] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, he said ethernet
[03:18] <Sarky> he he :)
[03:18] <sarath> hi
[03:18] <superpimp> ?
[03:18] <sarath> any one there
[03:18] <gnomefreak> yuour gonna laugh :(
[03:19] <Sarky> didnt mean to offend you, sorry ;)
[03:19] <funkyHat> he heh e
[03:19] <sarath> can any one tell me how to setup a mail server in ubuntu
[03:19] <gnomefreak> accourding to this site the netgear fa311 is the only one supported but ubuntu :(
[03:19] <Blissex> sarath: thats a somewhat long and involved story if done well :-)
[03:19] <mwe> sarath: yeah. read the postfix wiki
[03:19] <cyphase> gnomefreak, only what?
[03:19] <Sarky> gnomefreak: hm... isnt there any generic driver I can use?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> netgear wired nic
[03:19] <Blissex> sarath: most people read a fair bit of docs before trying.
[03:19] <cyphase> oh
[03:20] <sarath> bli...
[03:20] <superpimp> euh
[03:20] <sarath> could not get u
[03:20] <Sarky> I need networking-abilities on my ubuntu box :(
[03:20] <superpimp> any other ideas for my problem?
[03:20] <FaithX> Sarky: sure your netgear isn't a natsemi ?
[03:20] <sarath> any way can u guide me
[03:20] <sarath> i just started working on that in my server
[03:20] <Goshawk> is dapper stable enought?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Goshawk, no
[03:21] <Sarky> FaithX: How to find out? The device identies as "LiteOn Technologies Ltd. Ethernet Device" in lspci
[03:21] <funkyHat> Goshawk, NO
[03:21] <mwe> sarath: read the postfix wiki for starters, like I suggested
[03:21] <gnomefreak> you have 3-4 more months Goshawk
[03:21] <Blissex> sarath: ideally you should get a book on Postfix config, or download and read carefully the Postfix docs.
[03:21] <FaithX> Sarky: true... then it ain't a natsemi
[03:21] <mwe> sarath: explaining how to install and configure over irc is to complicated
[03:21] <Blissex> sarath: the Postfix wiki that mwe suggests is a very good starting point.
[03:21] <sarath> ok
[03:21] <Goshawk> gnomefreak, funkyHat ok, so i'll put it on my repo just to install gtk-gnutella, and i'll not upgrade
[03:21] <Goshawk> thanks
[03:21] <cyphase> just for the record, the netgear MA111 works perfectly with ndiswrapper
[03:21] <superpimp> any other ideas for my problem?
[03:22] <funkyHat> Goshawk, what's wrong with the gtk-gnutella that's in breezy?
[03:22] <sarath> atleast tell me where to go then i will try to do
[03:22] <cyphase> it's a USB dongle, comes with an extension cord
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Goshawk,  whats wrong with breezys version?
[03:22] <Blissex> sarath: it also depends a lot on what you want to do with your email server, and whether it is an SMTP or a POP3/IMAP one or both.
[03:22] <sarath> if its complicated i will download and read
[03:22] <Sarky> cyphase: So far I did not plan to buy a new device :-(
[03:22] <mwe> sarath: wiki.ubuntu.com, seach for postfix
[03:22] <funkyHat> It's like we are one mind...
[03:22] <Goshawk> funkyHat, gnomefreak it doesn't work
[03:22] <sarath> its mail server which should handle a domain users
[03:22] <Goshawk> because it's too old
[03:22] <Goshawk> it does not connect
[03:22] <Blissex> sarath: it can be not complicated, but it requires understanding what the issues are. And that requires reading and thinking about it.
[03:22] <cyphase> Sarky, i'm just saying :P
[03:22] <Goshawk> because it conflicts with the new version
[03:22] <funkyHat> Goshawk, ah
[03:23] <Sarky> cyphase: ok, thanks anyways ;)
[03:23] <FHX> sorry dc'd
[03:23] <sarath> i understand but atleast where to start then i can ....
[03:23] <FHX> I was asking, how to i get it to recognize usb devices?
[03:23] <Blissex> sarath: there are two type of mail servers, those that send/receive mail (SMTP) and those that store/serve mailboxes (POP3/IMAP)
[03:23] <FHX> e.g. flash/thumbdrives, mp3 players
[03:23] <FaithX> Sarky: no model number?
[03:23] <sarath> second one
[03:23] <Sarky> FaithX: NETGEAR FA-310TX Ethernet
[03:23] <sarath> store/serve mailboxes
[03:23] <sarath> pop3/imap
[03:24] <Blissex> sarath: ah then it is not Postfix, it would be something like Courier or Dovecot
[03:24] <sarath> can i have url
[03:24] <Blissex> sarath: as you can see we were already starting in the wrong direction...
[03:24] <Blissex> sarath: sure, wait....
[03:25] <FaithX> Sarky: try modprobe natsemi anyway
[03:25] <gnomefreak> natsemi= the chipset/drivers used with netgear products
[03:25] <Sarky> FaithX: ok, just a sec
[03:25] <gnomefreak> when they started and or stopped useing that chipset is beyond me
[03:25] <trae> gnomefreak, you still at it?
[03:26] <trae> gnomefreak, ;)
[03:26] <sarath> i got the courier
[03:26] <Blissex> sarath: BTW, there is a fairly nice server for mailboxes/intranet called Hula, have a look in the meantime at Hula.org
[03:26] <gnomefreak> im wondering if he cant use the fa311 drivers?
[03:26] <test> testing
[03:26] <test> 1 2 3
[03:26] <gnomefreak> gm trae
[03:26] <willem> it works
[03:26] <test> works =] 
[03:26] <trae> mornin'
[03:26] <trae> :)
[03:26] <braniff> how do i start/stop services in ubuntu ??
[03:26] <test> mornin to you too
[03:26] <sarath> ok
[03:27] <trae> braniff, /etc/init.d/foo start/stop
[03:27] <FaithX> Sarky: everything points it being a tulip card... but...
[03:27] <braniff> thanks
[03:27] <test> can someone help me? I decide to switch from Ubuntu into SuSe
[03:27] <Sarky> FaithX: The manufacturer disk comes with a tulip.c to compile, but it produces at least 1000 errors when trying to compile
[03:27] <gnomefreak> #suse is good with suse problems
[03:27] <test> since there's a limit to the programs in Ubuntu
[03:27] <trae> test, there are nice people in #opensuse
[03:28] <trae> test, they were quite helpful the other day.
[03:28] <trae> too bad suse sucks. :)
[03:28] <trae> *chuckle*
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ^5 tra
[03:28] <test> which other is distro is good?
[03:28] <trae> gnomefreak, heh
[03:28] <willem> test: what limit?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is good if not great
[03:28] <FaithX> Sarky: so the standard tulip driver loads?
[03:28] <test> it limits to programs
[03:28] <trae> gnomefreak, well, my best friend works on the distro, so it won't suck for long ;)
[03:28] <Sarky> FaithX: yes, but it has no effect
[03:28] <sarath> sounds interesting and this is url http://www.hula-project.org/Ubuntu
[03:28] <gnomefreak> slack is good (not a good newbie distro)
[03:28] <trae> gnomefreak, linuxart.com <-- Garrett
[03:28] <test> I can almost never fine a program that says "Ubuntu"
[03:29] <aris> what limits to programs ?
[03:29] <willem> you want to run something else than programs?
[03:29] <FaithX> what does dmesg tell you?
[03:29] <trae> course
[03:29] <trae> he can only make things pretty
[03:29] <Blissex> sarath: there is a simple GOWTO using courier here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[03:29] <aris> test, can you give a simple example ?
[03:29] <trae> he can't stop yast from being a giant pile
[03:29] <gnomefreak> test,  what do you mean says ubuntu?
[03:29] <test> LimeWIre
[03:29] <Sarky> there is no entry for modprobe in dmesg
[03:29] <test> Limewire has only for SuSe, Mandrake, and Redhat
[03:29] <FaithX> Hmmm...
[03:30] <test> every linux program is for RedHat X_x
[03:30] <gnomefreak> one of the people that has ubuntu comes in here is running limewire on ubuntu
[03:30] <Blissex> sarath: and this one is a bit more complete/complicated: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/edition3.html
[03:30] <Sarky> what was the name of the other device driver again to modprobe instead of tulip?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[03:30] <ubotu> I heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[03:31] <blaxter> seijuu
[03:31] <trae> test, you might find some things are better under Fedora, or Redhat even, but eventuallly, you'll realize that the things you typically care about are setup and work out of the box with Ubuntu.
[03:31] <test> also, can I get KDE on ubuntu? I don't really like gnome's style..
[03:31] <trae> test, kubuntu.org
[03:31] <trae> heh
[03:31] <gnomefreak> yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[03:31] <willem> test, you can install limewire using ' alien'
[03:32] <test> alien?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> pssssst you dont need it
[03:32] <aris> test, you just have to apt-get install kubuntu
[03:32] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[03:32] <ubotu> from memory, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[03:32] <willem> alien is for installing ' alien' (ie rpm) packages
[03:32] <gnomefreak> read that
[03:32] <lofty> hi people (-:
[03:32] <aris> and you have a working kubuntu
[03:32] <FaithX> Sarky: well... go buy a realtek or an intel... or look through the source they gave you and see what they have added... figure out which kernel it is againt and diff against the original tulip.c hand patch the relevent bit (probably just a pci id) and compile the stock tulip with mods :)
[03:32] <superpimp> i'll just ask somewhere else then :)
[03:32] <superpimp> byebye :D
[03:32] <superpimp> :p
[03:32] <lofty> <-- has a question: any ubuntu64 user in here?
[03:32] <aris> lofty, i am
[03:33] <lofty> aris you got mplayer to work?
[03:33] <FaithX> Sarky which kernel you using?
[03:33] <lofty> or anything else for non-free codec thingies like .wmv or else?
[03:33] <chaoticgeek> who was helping me with my clock?
[03:33] <Sarky> FaithX: Well, I am a bit short of time to spend a few days on patching a device driver ;) Looks as if  Ubuntu is not a suitable alternative system for my old PC :-(
[03:33] <aris> lofty, nope
[03:33] <test> how do I get the KDE menu or panel on the bottom of my screen? =O
[03:34] <aris> lofty, no flash either
[03:34] <Sarky> FaithX: 2.6.12-9
[03:34] <lofty> aris: same problem with me: no flash ):
[03:34] <aris> if it's vital to you, you can run it into a x86 debootstrap
[03:34] <pinkisntwell> why System Monitor doesn't list all running processes?
[03:34] <chaoticgeek> well my clock did not work
[03:34] <willem> lofty, you could run firefox in 32 bit
[03:34] <willem> then you have flash
[03:34] <chaoticgeek> does not *
[03:34] <lofty> willem: but still no movies?
[03:35] <test> gnomeFreak> How do I get the kde toolbar/menu on the bottom of my screen?
[03:35] <sarath> thank u bli
[03:35] <sarath> i will check and get back
[03:35] <gnomefreak> you would install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <willem> lofty you could try installing mplayer as 32 bit and then install w32codecs
[03:35] <sarath> sounds interesting
[03:36] <test> i did like you told me
[03:36] <sarath> i think i made a mistake instead of server i have installed default
[03:36] <teroedni> lofty aris:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats<-----amd64 flash scroll down;)
[03:36] <chaoticgeek> my clock is starting to piss me off
[03:36] <gnomefreak> test, after you install it log out of gnome and log into kde
[03:36] <lofty> teroedni, It won't function for me
[03:36] <test> ok thanks gnome freak
[03:36] <aris> teroedni, flash is not vital for me
[03:36] <lofty> tells me something about C compiler not working
[03:36] <test> wait..
[03:36] <aris> I'm just another one lost customer for macromedia
[03:36] <test> how do I log off gnome? =P
[03:36] <lofty> willem, the problem with the w32codecs is that it won't install
[03:36] <teroedni> lofty:Why not?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> system >logout
[03:37] <test> ok thanks
[03:37] <lofty> teroedni: lofty tells me something about C compiler not working
[03:37] <gnomefreak> once logged out look for sessions and choose kde
[03:37] <teroedni> then you need to get the right c compiler
[03:37] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[03:37] <lofty> willem, and if i do dpkg -i --force-all it will install, but my players don't seem to recognize it
[03:38] <Sarky> FaithX: Thanks for your help, I thnk I am going to slaughter an old PC now to get another Ethernet device
[03:38] <lofty> teroedni, i always thought gcc was right
[03:38] <aris> lofty, they won't recognize it because they can't load 32 bits modules
[03:38] <teroedni> lofty install build-essential
[03:38] <gnomefreak> gcc is the most widely used compiler for C
[03:38] <teroedni> lofty:Me too until i began compiling difference thinngs;)
[03:39] <lofty> teroedni, so what shell I install then?
[03:39] <teroedni> you should install the buil-essentila
[03:39] <lofty> ok
[03:39] <gnomefreak> build-essential too
[03:39] <gnomefreak> :))
[03:40] <mwe> buil-essentila?
[03:40] <lofty> teroedni, that still won't solve my movie problem though
[03:40] <teroedni> lofty:I dont know about that sorry:(
[03:40] <lofty> teroedni, which I have to say is the more important thingy for me (:
[03:40] <eksajm> hey, when i insert a usb device in my computer hotplug finds it and mounts it. butkonqour opens /sda1.. why? the usb device has an other name..
[03:40] <gnomefreak> lofty, its best to solve one problem than another
[03:41] <teroedni> lofty:sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:41] <lofty> teroedni, already did (:
[03:41] <teroedni> then atleast you can get flash working
[03:41] <teroedni> okey
[03:41] <eksajm> hey, when i insert a usb device in my computer hotplug finds it and mounts it. butkonqour opens /sda1.. why? the usb device has an other name..
[03:42] <teroedni> what movie doesnt work?
[03:42] <lofty> gnomefreak, you have an idea for movies?
[03:42] <mwe> eksajm: don't repeat
[03:42] <gnomefreak> i thought flash enabled you to watch movies?
[03:42] <mwe> eksajm: no one seems to know
[03:42] <lofty> gnomefreak, the problem is that i can't watch movies in general
[03:42] <lofty> gnomefreak, like .mov, .avi, .wmv etc.
[03:42] <willem> lofty, sorry, but i can no longer stay with you to help, gotta go.... :(
[03:43] <lofty> willem, no problem, thanks for your help (:
[03:43] <eksajm> mwe,  sorry.
[03:43] <lofty> willem, bye
[03:43] <willem> laters
[03:43] <teroedni> lofty:That works fine with me
[03:43] <lofty> teroedni, how?
[03:43] <mwe> lofty: get the codecs installed
[03:43] <teroedni> not sure if i can view wmw although
[03:43] <lofty> mwe, how? (:
[03:43] <ubnew> dose 5.10 include firewall by defult /?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[03:43] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:43] <mwe> !win32codecs
[03:43] <ubotu> somebody said win32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:44] <mwe> !restricted
[03:44] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:44] <chaoticgeek> no_timer_check
[03:44] <teroedni> lofty:Try totem-xine
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ubnew, yes linux in general provides a firewall built into the kernel
[03:44] <TotalNewb> Anyone know what happend to plf.acnova.com? It was in my list of repositories and for some reaon recently I haven't been able to resolve the host for it.
[03:44] <lofty> teroedni, i installed totem-xine
[03:44] <mwe> lofty: where ubotu just suggested
[03:44] <lofty> Teroedni, Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[03:44] <mwe> lofty: hello. follow the urls ubotu suggested
[03:45] <ubnew> gnomefreak: how to remove it all... i did removed iptable but still can send webcam.. while can resive
[03:45] <lofty> mwe, i already did that
[03:45] <lofty> mwe,  it will point me to w32codecs
[03:45] <pinkisntwell> I have two smb.conf files in my system, which one is used and why do I have two?
[03:45] <lofty> mwe, sudo dpkg -i --force-all w32* won't do the trick
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ubnew, iptables is the name for the firewall thats in the kernel
[03:45] <eksajm> dont youhave flash a bit down in that file?
[03:45] <lofty> mwe, well, it says it is installed, but totem-xine nor mplayer will show me the videos
[03:45] <TotalNewb> All hail the greed of Micro$oft.
[03:45] <mwe> force-all? why would you need that?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> how to remove it is beyond me firewalls are good things to have
[03:46] <lofty> mwe, because it says that w32codecs won't fit into my architecture (amd64)
[03:46] <teroedni> LOFTY:hAVE YOU INSTALLED FFMPEG
[03:46] <mwe> lofty: then probably they wont work. that's what it says
[03:46] <gnomefreak> you know you really only need to change settings not remove the firewall :(
[03:46] <lofty> teroedni, erm i dont know (: letme have a look
[03:46] <teroedni> sorry about the caps
[03:46] <Tirno> Hi. I'm having problems using my ipod nano with ubuntu hoary
[03:46] <lofty> teroedni, it's ok... installing ffmpeg right now
[03:47] <ubnew> gnomefreak: dunno but i was able to send and resive webcams.. but since i updated kernel with apt-get update .. no hope
[03:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Tirno about ipod
[03:47] <lofty> mwe, yeah... I had that conclusion too
[03:47] <mwe> lofty: don't force install things that says they are borked for your system
[03:47] <Tirno> woops sorry
[03:47] <Tirno> the googlejuice for the ubuntu wiki doesn't seem to work too well. should have known to check there first
[03:48] <lofty> teroedni, what do i do with ffmpeg now it's installed?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubnew, apt-get update doesnt update the kernel :(
[03:48] <teroedni> nothing:)
[03:48] <teroedni> play a movie
[03:48] <mwe> heh
[03:48] <gnomefreak> hell apt-get upgrade doesnt even update kernel :(
[03:49] <mwe> ffmpeg will let you play wmv files?!
[03:49] <teroedni> mve:Maybe im not sure
[03:49] <ubnew> gnomefreak: it did... from 2.6.12.9 to 2.6.12.10
[03:49] <mwe> I think not
[03:49] <teroedni> mwe:It works atleast for mpeg files
[03:49] <mwe> yeah
[03:49] <lofty> teroedni,  it won't play that movie
[03:49] <aris[doritos] > mpeg is a standard
[03:49] <aris[doritos] > wmv9 is not
[03:50] <teroedni> lofty can you play normally mpeg files now?
[03:50] <pinkisntwell> wmv9 it's not an open codec but it works under linux if you go through some hoops
[03:50] <lofty> teroedni, i don't know, i don't have any
[03:50] <mwe> but he want the restricted formats though. too bad the debs don't work with amd64
[03:50] <teroedni> so your only got wmv files?
[03:51] <ubnew> gnomefreak: what do i need for ip forwording? change in router or in iptables if i reinstall ?
[03:51] <lofty> teroedni, it's a new installed system
[03:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubnew about firestarter
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ubnew, i can only get kernel upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade in breezy
[03:52] <Tirno> hmmm... I'm confused. Hoary seems to be able to mount the ipod with no problem (with no input from me), but it is out of the box - not pc formatted.
[03:52] <gnomefreak> or using synaptic
[03:52] <teroedni> lofty:I can barely play some wmv file myself:( Most of them fail
[03:52] <lofty> hmm
[03:53] <ubnew> gnomefreak: im new to this.. but i'll try firestarter and see..
[03:53] <lofty> teroedni, my flash won't work after all
[03:53] <Tirno> looking at /etc/mtab, it seems to have loaded it as vfat
[03:53] <ubnew> gnomefreak: thanks man..
[03:53] <lofty> teroedni, even after compiling
[03:53] <gnomefreak> firestarter is a GUI to set the firewall settings
[03:53] <gnomefreak> ubnew,  i dont use it the settings are fine for me
[03:54] <ubnew> gnomefreak: gui.. umm nice..
[03:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:54] <ubnew> lemme install
[03:56] <lofty> mwe, have you any idea why flash still isn't working?
[03:57] <Sarky> Hi again! I replaced my NETGEAR FA-310TX Ethernet device by a noname product with Realtek 8139 Chip, but it still doesnt work - dmesg says "pci dev 0000:00:08.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not a 8139C+ compatible chip" - what do I have to do?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[03:57] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Sarky, that is a list of supported hardware for ubuntu
[03:57] <aris[doritos] > Sarky, you're damn not lucky
[03:58] <aris[doritos] > it's pretty hard to have a pci ethernet card not supported
[03:58] <Sarky> aris[doritos] : This is my second card which is not recognized, it really sucks :-(
[03:58] <teroedni> lofty:Then you still missing something
[03:58] <lofty> teroedni, I did what the wiki said
[03:59] <Sarky> gnomefreak: I know, the list says realtek is supported
[03:59] <teroedni> try again and look after error
[03:59] <pinkisntwell> I think I have a Realtek chip that works with linux
[03:59] <lofty> teroedni, i had installed libflash-moz installed before
[03:59] <teroedni> lofty:I know but your probably missing something
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Sarky,  are you on breezy?
[03:59] <Sarky> gnomefreak: yep
[04:00] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[04:00] <teroedni> pinkisntwell:All realtek should work
[04:00] <UbuntuNewbie> How good is the disk partitioning program on the Ubuntu CD (i.e., does it work well or have a reputation for problems)?
[04:00] <pinkisntwell> Sarky: are you sure it's not supported?
[04:01] <Sarky> pinkisntwell: dmesg says so :-/
[04:01] <gnomefreak> it is supported im on site now
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Sarky, by chance did you try rebooting?
[04:01] <Sarky> but why the hell doesnt it recognize my card? :(
[04:01] <lofty> teroedni, dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /home/guenay/gplflash-0.4.13/gplflash-0.4.13_0.4.13-1_x86_64.deb (--install):
[04:01] <lofty>  Paket-Architektur (x86_64) passt nicht zum System (amd64)
[04:01] <lofty> Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[04:01] <lofty>  /home/guenay/gplflash-0.4.13/gplflash-0.4.13_0.4.13-1_x86_64.deb
[04:01] <lofty> teroedni, that won't fit in my architecture it seems
[04:01] <Sarky> gnomefreak: erm... no, but I didnt change my card when the system was running...
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Sarky,  good point
[04:02] <Sarky> :)
[04:02] <spiregrain> hey sarky- I seem to have the same as you, and it works for me:  "0000:02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[04:02] <spiregrain> "
[04:02] <gnomefreak> on the boot screen the (black and brown) screen did it fail there?
[04:02] <teroedni> hmm lofty could you paste a bigger portion of that in www.pastebin.com
[04:03] <lofty> teroedni, what do you mean by bigger portion?
[04:03] <Sarky> spiregain: yep, thats the same one
[04:03] <Sarky> spiregain: what did you do to make it work?
[04:03] <teroedni> ohh thats all you get?
[04:03] <lofty> teroedni, if i want to see the log, yes
[04:03] <gnomefreak> lofty,  im thinking he means all of the dmesg ot lspci -vv output in pastebin
[04:03] <gnomefreak> ot/or
[04:04] <pyrho> hi all
[04:04] <spiregrain> try modprobing mii, 8139too, and 8139cp
[04:04] <pyrho> anyone got gtk installed on unbuntu ?
[04:04] <Viper550> Of course, Gnome uses GTK!!!
[04:05] <Stormx2> hello all
[04:05] <Sarky> spiregain: already tried, modules are loaded but no effect
[04:05] <pyrho> yes i know i use gnome ^^
[04:05] <pyrho> but the problem is i'm trying to compile
[04:05] <Stormx2> So most people use GTK then
[04:05] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:05] <Stormx2> pyrho: Trying to compile what?
[04:05] <pyrho> a c script using #include <gtk/gtk.h>
[04:05] <pyrho> and it says that it can't find gtk.h
[04:05] <Viper550> Why are you asking if anyone has GTK on Ubuntu? All Ubuntu users have it because the Gnome desktop runs under that language.
[04:05] <pyrho> :/
[04:05] <pyrho> ow ok
[04:05] <Stormx2> pyrho: Run a search for gtk.h then
[04:05] <teroedni> lofty:Go into synaptic and make sure you have gcc3.3 and gcc 3.4 installed
[04:06] <lofty> http://pastebin.com/480238
[04:06] <lofty> thats lspci -vv
[04:06] <pyrho> i tried, but what shall i use find gtk.h ? slocate ? locate ?
[04:06] <Stormx2> Viper550: Not all ubuntu users have it. Some don't have gnome. Some don't even use X
[04:06] <pyrho> none of these work :/
[04:06] <aris[doritos] > pyrho, you need libgtk-dev
[04:06] <Viper550> This is by default, I'm under it right now!
[04:06] <Stormx2> pyrho: if you are using gnome, Places > Find
[04:06] <aris[doritos] > or something like it
[04:06] <Stormx2> yeah you need the dev package
[04:07] <Viper550> What is the best GTK theme?
[04:07] <Stormx2> Viper550: Matter of opinion
[04:07] <lofty> Viper550, the best is the one you like most
[04:07] <Stormx2> Viper550: www.gnome-look.org
[04:07] <Viper550> I like ClearLooks
[04:07] <lofty> Viper550, who don't (:
[04:07] <Stormx2> Yes I'm using that now
[04:07] <pyrho> aris[doritos] , i did install it using apt-get
[04:07] <ardchoille> I put the updatedb command into a cronjob. Was this necessary or does Ubuntu run updatedb on its own?
[04:08] <Viper550> Espically with that Cairo patch...wicked!!!
[04:08] <FaithX> Sarky: did you get it sorted yet?
[04:08] <Viper550> I also love that new ClearLooks 2.0 Metacity, I think that will be the metacity for Dapper
[04:08] <spiregrain> sarky - it worked for me out of the bag, with no mucking about required
[04:08] <UbuntuNewbie> hi everybody
[04:09] <Sarky> FaithX: I replaced the adapter by a Realtek chip, but it still doenst work although spiregain here has the same chip
[04:09] <Viper550> Anyone on the art team list?
[04:09] <rob_p> ardchoille:  If you have slocate (you probably do), then it's already got a symlink in /etc/cron.daily which will take care of daily updates.
[04:10] <spiregrain> what does lspci have to say about it
[04:10] <spiregrain> ?
[04:10] <FaithX> Sarky: modprobe 8139too
[04:10] <spiregrain> my chip is built-in to my laptop, not on a pci card
[04:10] <Sarky> FaithX: already tried, module loads but no effect
[04:10] <rob_p> ardchoille:  correction... not a symlink... an actual script!
[04:10] <FaithX> what does ifconfig tell you?
[04:10] <Sarky> it only displays the lo device
[04:11] <FaithX> Sarky: try a different pci slot
[04:11] <pyrho> anyone tryed compiling a c script with #include <gtk/gtk.h> ?
[04:11] <Sarky> FaithX: ok, I'll try - thanks :)
[04:11] <Viper550> I'm just wondering, does anyone still like Crux?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> doesnt kernel moduals hold the drivers for hardware?
[04:13] <lofty> (in reality I'm screaming out loud hehe)
[04:13] <FaithX> lofty: better than debian amd64
[04:13] <eth42> does anyone edit wiki.ubuntu.com here?
[04:13] <Viper550> yes!
[04:13] <lofty> FaithX, better than doesn't help me anyway (;
[04:13] <FaithX> lofty: what's your problem?
[04:14] <lofty> FaithX, vids and flash (;
[04:14] <Viper550> Crux is so old-skool!
[04:14] <eth42> Viper550: was that an answer to my question?
[04:14] <FaithX> lofty: flash is ok vids tho... hmmm...
[04:14] <Viper550> the Yes, it was an answer! Also, I still like Crux
[04:15] <n0dl> how do i view .chms?
[04:15] <eth42> Viper550: whatever Crux is....
[04:15] <lofty> FaithX, even flash will not function in my system (;
[04:16] <FaithX> lofty: did you do the workaround?
[04:16] <eth42> Viper550: I need some help with wiki.ubuntu.com: how do I set a wiki link to a page which is composed out of just one word (like Java). So no camelcase...
[04:16] <ardchoille> rob_p: Thank you :)
[04:16] <Viper550> Umm, I don't know that, but Crux, that was that old default Gnome theme from the 2.0 days
[04:16] <gnomefreak> eth42,  you know html?
[04:16] <lofty> FaithX, i followed the wiki
[04:17] <protix> hi i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?
[04:17] <eth42> gnomefreak: well, yes, but if you wiki you're supposed not to use html, right?
[04:17] <eth42> gnomefreak: I mean that's the point of wikis#
[04:17] <gnomefreak> nalioth, this i know but he said he wants to put link on page to wiki is the way i read it
[04:18] <lofty> protix, what do you mean by "you cannot setup your network"?
[04:18] <eth42> ok, I have to use ["Java"] 
[04:18] <protix> well it work work ?
[04:18] <synmoo> Does anyone know the default root password for the Amd64 install? I just finished the install and I don't remember setting the root password and haven't been able to find it in the documentation.
[04:18] <protix> can you give me show me how its done ?
[04:18] <lofty> protix, what is your problem? network card not recognized? what did you try and won't work?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> synmoo,  your user password
[04:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell synmoo about root
[04:19] <protix> who knows it just work coz im using DSL with USB
[04:19] <Tirno> Hi again. I think I've exhausted most of the info on the net I'm able to understand regarding this. I've got an out of the box ipod nano. I've got it to mount to /mnt/ipod
[04:19] <Tirno> dyke@tirno:/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes$ ls
[04:19] <Tirno> firsttime
[04:19] <will_> hey, how do I disable the feature that automaically mounts cds when you insert them?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> protix, linux has never recognized my modem it sees my ethernet card and using that
[04:19] <protix> i tryed everything also the pppeo help on the forums
[04:19] <lofty> protix, USB? do you have a wireless card?
[04:20] <protix> no
[04:20] <protix> ffs
[04:20] <synmoo> gnomefreak: When using either a blank pw, or the same pw I set for my initial login account, I get a login incorrect at the login prompt/su
[04:20] <protix> dsl modem
[04:20] <Tirno> I'm confused. does this mean that I need to get it formatted to fat32?
[04:20] <protix> D-LINK320G
[04:20] <Sarky> FaithX: changed PCI slot, still does not work :-(
[04:20] <ardchoille> will_: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[04:20] <gnomefreak> synmoo,  you cant log into ubuntu?
[04:21] <lofty> protix, if your ethernet card is plugged in into your modem then you just have to get a pppoe connection, is that where the problem is?
[04:21] <will_> thanks ardchoille
[04:21] <protix> lol
[04:21] <ardchoille> yw :)
[04:21] <synmoo> gnomefreak: I can login with the user account I created during setup, but cannot login as root with a blank password or with the password used creating my initial user account during setup
[04:21] <Viper550> Anyone remember the good old days of Gnome?
[04:21] <protix> i told you i use USB /// i dont have an "ethernet card"
[04:21] <gnomefreak> synmoo,  did you read the pm ubotu sent you?
[04:21] <protix> or an ethernet card cable
[04:21] <nalioth> synmoo: there is no active root account, you can use sudo and your user password to take care of any superuser tasks
[04:22] <protix> it works via usb plug from the pc to the back of the modem
[04:22] <gnomefreak> su is disabled by default in ubuntu
[04:22] <ElitePete> ATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?
[04:22] <lofty> protix, ok (-; can you say what "ifconfig" tells you?
[04:22] <teroedni> lofty:Did you get my mesage?
[04:22] <synmoo> gnomefreak, nalioth: I skimmed it briefly, but I see my error now. Thanks for your help.
[04:22] <kestas> when they say there's no root account and su is disabled they mean root has no password
[04:22] <ardchoille> synmoo: there is no reason to actually log into the root account. Everything you need to do can be done with sudo
[04:22] <lofty> teroedni, yes, i answered
[04:22] <protix> yes it has weird letters but not my ip
[04:23] <protix> and also it works fine in VMWARE but when i boot from bios it wont work
[04:23] <lofty> protix show me those letters pls
[04:23] <ElitePete> ATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?
[04:23] <cliebow_> id like to add a script that runs just after kdm login..anyone point me to the file that needs tweaking..i can do it in rh from /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
[04:23] <protix> i gotta reboot to nix then and i cant come on here without a connection ?
[04:23] <lofty> hmm
[04:23] <gnomefreak> im kinda thinking from what ive seen the past 4days if you set up a su account in ubuntu it over rides the sudo account  is this right?
[04:24] <dooglus> there's no such thing as a "su account" or a "sudo account".  there are accounts, that's all
[04:24] <nalioth> gnomefreak: enabling a root account breaks things (read the wiki page) and it shouldnt override anything (unless you change something)
[04:24] <synmoo> I just used sudo to change the root pw. Thanks.
[04:24] <cliebow_> gnomefreak: all i ever do is sudo passwd root and create a pw..then can use it judiciously
[04:24] <protix> ?
[04:25] <lofty> mom
[04:25] <protix> :(
[04:25] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: su is simply an executable in /bin/su
[04:25] <dooglus> nalioth: which wiki page?  and what in particular does it break?  I've not had any problems
[04:25] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[04:26] <lofty> protix i need to know what ifconfig tells because if your usb-device is listed in there as a netowrk card or something similar
[04:26] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[04:26] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:26] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me if
[04:26] <lofty> protix, then maybe the solution won't be so hard hehe
[04:26] <ElitePete> ATI theater 550 pro (tv capture card) will this work with MythTv and ubuntu?
[04:26] <lofty> protix, else I don't think I can help you
[04:26] <protix> ohh gay
[04:26] <quacker> gnomefreak, sudo requires some care and skill to run securely
[04:26] <Tirno> I am now more confused than ever. I have succeeded in putting music on my out of the box iPod nano. And yet it appears to have been mounted as vfat. It should be hfsplus. I'm not complaining, but would love to understand
[04:26] <quacker> I highly recommend that you man sudoers.list
[04:27] <Viper550> Anyone still like Crux (the theme)?
[04:27] <quacker> and use visudo to edit accordingly
[04:27] <lofty> Viper550, I don't like the icons
[04:27] <eth42> Viper550: why are you asking?
[04:27] <quacker> privelege escalation can be trivial with a carelessly configed sudo
[04:27] <Viper550> No, I don't like the icons, but the metacity and gtk looks good!
[04:28] <visik7> Hi folks
[04:28] <Stormx2> Hey
[04:28] <ardchoille> hi visik7
[04:28] <visik7> I'm using ubuntu and I've some qt programs with big font size
[04:28] <Blaxter> hi
[04:28] <visik7> how can I reduce it ?
[04:29] <synmoo> On to my second issue: The X server is failing to start, after reading the output, it says a screens were found, but no usable config was found. I remember setting available resolutions at the end of the setup. I kept the default 1024,800,640, but added a check for 1280. Where should I look for the config file or config app?
[04:29] <Blaxter> at config system u can reduce or select the fonts
[04:29] <Stormx2> visik7: Not sure. Ask in #kde maybe?
[04:29] <visik7> Stormx2: I'm not using kde
[04:29] <eth42> synmoo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <visik7> but gnome with some qt programs
[04:29] <dooglus> that wiki page is wrong.  it says "Enabling the root account ... is not recommended! It will break all the GUI admin tools" - but it doesn't for me.  synaptic still works, I just tried it
[04:29] <synmoo> eth42: thanks hopefully my issue will be obvious.
[04:29] <Viper550> easier way: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <Stormx2> !xorg
[04:29] <gnomefreak> dooglus, its says it will break GUI admin tools
[04:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:30] <Stormx2> Use that
[04:30] <ardchoille> visik7: if you have kcontrol installed, you should be able to change the fonts in that
[04:30] <synmoo> viper550: thanks I'll try that first
[04:30] <Viper550> Had the exact same problem, and it's not a rumor, it works! Also, do it at a console of course!
[04:30] <protix> anyone else CAN help me
[04:30] <protix> ?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> but dooglus  i have seen people that cant use thier synaptic after making an su account
[04:30] <Viper550> So synmoo is using irssi, right?
[04:31] <eth42> protix: what?
[04:31] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: there's no such thing as a su account. Su is an executable that simply allows you to Switch Users.
[04:31] <lennart> what package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system
[04:31] <protix> umm
[04:31] <gnomefreak> the word could or might could have been used since everyones sys is differnet
[04:31] <visik7> ardchoille: I don't have kcontrol and I would not install it 'couse 90 mb of space to change a font size is quite stupid isn't it ?
[04:31] <protix> i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?
[04:31] <dooglus> gnomefreak: synaptic is a GUI tool which admins the system.  Isn't that what it means?
[04:31] <protix> thats what
[04:31] <Viper550> If you are using irssi, press alt-f2 and login at virtual console 2
[04:31] <nalioth> gnomefreak: that is because enabling a root accoutn breaks some parts of ubuntu
[04:31] <gnomefreak> ardchoille, im going from what i see on the wiki it states root account
[04:31] <ardchoille> visik7: yes, it is. I suggested that because qt is what KDE uses for widgets.
[04:31] <eth42> protix: are you sure your USB DSL modem is supported by linux?
[04:32] <remote_> hello everyone
[04:32] <protix> i guess so
[04:32] <eth42> protix: why?
[04:32] <lennart> what package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system
[04:32] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: you already have a root account, but it's disabled.
[04:32] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it sounds like a bug somewhere that needs tracking down and fixing.  it's not as simple as "enable root -> break synaptic" because I have an enabled root account and a working synaptic
[04:32] <remote_> does anyone know when the GTK2 version of gnucash will be available?
[04:32] <visik7> ardchoille: or if you can suggest me an app that do what kdocker does
[04:32] <dooglus> is it known what exactly having the root password unlocked breaks?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> seeing as there are problly newbies in here im not gonna throw aroung the word root
[04:32] <protix> ..
[04:32] <ardchoille> visik7: sorry, I don't use any KDE apps :(
[04:33] <protix> eth42 : i doesnt know
[04:33] <Viper550> So Synmoo, are you ready?
[04:33] <remote_> root, like a carrot?
[04:33] <Viper550> Root USER
[04:33] <gnomefreak> dooglus,  your right it should be "thinking it already has been" tacked and fixed atleast in that persons pc
[04:33] <fit4lfe> is there anyone that can give me some one on one help with chroot
[04:33] <eth42> protix: first I would google for your specific device and linux; if there is a driver for it, you have to find a tutorial for pppoe (if I'm not wrong here)
[04:33] <gnomefreak> tracked*
[04:34] <visik7> fit4lfe: what's wrong with chroot
[04:34] <fit4lfe> I followed the instructions to a  T and I still get locale errors
[04:34] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: why would you want to enable the root account?
[04:34] <remote_> fit4lfe - in a terminal type man chroot
[04:34] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I don't understand what you're saying there.
[04:34] <fit4lfe> yeah did all that
[04:34] <gnomefreak> ardchoille,  i dont never did never will
[04:34] <lennart> what package shoud I install to get the command 'ld' on my system
[04:34] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: ok, my bad
[04:34] <eth42> protix: it's probably easier if you could attach your DSL modem with a normal ethernet cable instead of USB
[04:34] <protix> yes i know
[04:35] <protix> but everywhere here is shut
[04:35] <protix> xmas
[04:35] <gnomefreak> su leaves it open for way too many issues in any distro
[04:35] <eth42> lennart, apt-file will probably answer this question
[04:35] <mcjerry> protix: i told you so hahaha
[04:35] <protix> :D
[04:35] <protix> =[
[04:35] <visik7> lennart:
[04:35] <visik7> binutils
[04:35] <gnomefreak> sorta like if you used sudo -i and walked away from pc without thinking about it :))
[04:35] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's swings and roundabouts.  su is safer in some ways
[04:35] <fit4lfe> does anyone have a chroot for amd 64 bit
[04:35] <lofty> ok guys, gotta go
[04:36] <lofty> bye
[04:36] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: that is true, and that's why I don't use su
[04:36] <eth42> protix: what's the name of your DSL device?
[04:36] <lennart> eth42, what is that? I dont have it installed on my system
[04:36] <protix> umm
[04:36] <mcjerry> eth42 he has a dlink dsl 302g hooked up via usb
[04:36] <protix> yes
[04:37] <markitoxs> hi there
[04:37] <ardchoille> hi markitoxs
[04:37] <eth42> lennart: apt-get install apt-file
[04:37] <markitoxs> does anyone know, how to see e-mail adresses instead of nicknames in gaim 2.0 ?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> everything you can do with su you can do with sudo as for safer i dont see how if i can hack your su or your sudo either one will give me access
[04:37] <protix> http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x332.html ?
[04:38] <visik7> markitoxs: is there a .deb for gaim 2.0 ?
[04:38] <lennart> thanks
[04:38] <gnomefreak> visik7, no theres a tar for it tho
[04:38] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if you use sudo, all I need to know is your user password and I've got root access.  If you use su, I can know your user password and your root is still safe.
[04:38] <eth42> protix: quoting dlink.com: "The DSL-302G ADSL Modem that provides both USB and Ethernet connectivity at an
[04:38] <eth42> affordable price."
[04:38] <markitoxs> visik7, yep, i found it googling with : gaim 2.0 deb
[04:39] <markitoxs> is one of the frist results
[04:39] <nalioth> gnomefreak: dooglus everyone else, can we take the su vs sudo talk to -offtopic?
[04:39] <eth42> protix: so there is the possibility to use ethernet
[04:39] <visik7> markitoxs: thanks
[04:39] <protix> ahagf
[04:39] <protix> fkn
[04:39] <markitoxs> visik7, :)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> sorry nalioth
[04:39] <dooglus> sure.  I was trying to get to the bottom of this recurring report that "setting root password breaks the gui".
[04:39] <g1powermac> Hi all
[04:39] <ardchoille> dooglus: not true, ever tried: sudo su _
[04:39] <ardchoille> *sudo su -
[04:39] <g1powermac> anyone know what the boot loader is on the ppc livecd?
[04:39] <dooglus> ardchoille: if you have sudo AND su then you're doubly vulnerable, of course
[04:40] <eth42> protix: quoting www.wlug.org.nz/DSL-302G: "The DLink DSL-302G ADSL modem is actually a router/DHCP-server. What this means is that it is extremely simple to make this modem work with Linux."
[04:40] <ardchoille> dooglus: everyone has sudo and su
[04:40] <nalioth> gentlemen, let us discuss it in -offtopic, we are carrying on quite a bit with the topic now
[04:40] <dooglus> ardchoille: most people don't have a useful "su" because they don't have a usable root password
[04:40] <eth42> protix: what's your problem then?
[04:40] <protix> lol
[04:40] <protix> wtf
[04:41] <ardchoille> dooglus: you don't need the "root" password to use su.. all you need to do is: sudo su -
[04:41] <protix> i been telling u for the last 30 mins mang
[04:41] <eth42> ?
[04:41] <eth42> not me
[04:41] <protix> ok
[04:41] <protix> watch
[04:41] <mcjerry> eth42: he is trying to get it to work with usb and not ethernet, he want's to know if someone can help him hook it up usb
[04:41] <protix> yes
[04:41] <protix> thanx jerry
[04:41] <mcjerry> np
[04:42] <ardchoille> dooglus: "sudo su -" effectively switches to the root user with the root account variables
[04:42] <protix> haha
[04:42] <eth42> mcjerry: huh, my guess is that it won't work because someone would have to write a driver for it. since there is the possibility to use the device with ethernet, why should someone bother usb?
[04:42] <dooglus> gnomefreak: could this be the bug that the wiki is referring to?  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20481
[04:42] <nalioth> ardchoille: dooglus in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:43] <visik7> ardchoille: also sudo -i
[04:43] <ardchoille> nalioth: ok, will do
[04:43] <mcjerry> eth42: in his post he said the stores are closed where he is and he doesn't have an ethernet cable......the usb modem should work as a pppoe connection in linux, but i wouldn't know how to set that up with the modem he has
[04:43] <protix> gay gay gay
[04:43] <fit4lfe> can I paste an error that I recieve
[04:43] <visik7> fit4lfe: use a pastebin services
[04:43] <eth42> hehe
[04:43] <fit4lfe> which one
[04:43] <protix> ...
[04:44] <mcjerry> eth42: if he types 'lsusb' in his linux install, linux is seeing the usb modem
[04:44] <spiregrain> charming
[04:44] <nalioth> fit4lfe: whichever pastebin you like
[04:44] <protix> ya
[04:44] <eth42> mcjerry: but that doesn't mean much does it?
[04:44] <protix> werd
[04:45] <eth42> mcjerry: I think that every USB device can identify itself but that doesn't mean that there is a driver supporting this device
[04:45] <seatouch> whats the command to change another users pass using root ?
[04:45] <mcjerry> eth42: it means linux and the modem are communicating on some level as lsusb lists his modem......so where i am lost is how does he then establish a pppoe connection with the modem?
[04:45] <protix> dis is soo  gayyyyyyyyyy
[04:45] <protix> bro
[04:45] <protix> when i load vmware it works fine :)
[04:45] <protix> so it does some how work but when i boot from root with linux it doesnt
[04:46] <protix> right jerrY?
[04:46] <mcjerry> protix, vmware is bridging the connection via a virtual network driver to windows
[04:46] <protix> mm k
[04:46] <nalioth> protix: let us be civil
[04:46] <mcjerry> two different issues
[04:46] <apokryphos> protix: language, please.
[04:46] <protix> language ?
[04:46] <protix> english
[04:46] <seatouch> whats the command to change another users pass using root ? - does anyone know ?
[04:46] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6229
[04:46] <apokryphos> protix: using "gay" as a derogatory remark is offensive.
[04:46] <protix> ahh that word kk my bad.
[04:47] <apokryphos> searcher`: passwd
[04:47] <ompaul> !tell protix about gay
[04:47] <ompaul> protix, read the bots message
[04:47] <seatouch> apokryphos i need to do it using root :)
[04:47] <Stormx2> Yeah
[04:47] <Stormx2> this is IRC
[04:47] <protix> no s***
[04:47] <Stormx2> people get offended for a reason here ;-)
[04:47] <apokryphos> searcher`: so use sudo
[04:47] <protix> nah this java chat.
[04:47] <protix> i never called anyone g**
[04:48] <nalioth> seatouch: you dont need a root account, sudo can do anything you need
[04:48] <Stormx2> You were just saying this was a merry ol' time wern't you?
[04:48] <apokryphos> !tell seatouch about sudo
[04:48] <fit4lfe> anyone have a clue about that error
[04:48] <seatouch> nalioth please tell the command then :)
[04:48] <ompaul> !tell searcher` about sudoroot
[04:48] <protix> so out of 585 ppl nobody can help me =[
[04:48] <nalioth> seatouch: sudo -i    then do your business
[04:48] <Stormx2> protix: What was the problem?
[04:48] <Stormx2> protix, I only just arrived ^_^
[04:48] <protix> ahh here we go againnn
[04:49] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6229
[04:49] <seatouch> thanks buddy : nalioth :)
[04:49] <harsszeg> protix is ***
[04:49] <protix> "i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?"
[04:49] <eth42> mcjerry: I thought that delivering an id string is part of USB. so it's no surprise to me that lsusb lists the DSL device.
[04:50] <protix> ..
[04:51] <ompaul> protix, so what you do is system administration networking if it is supported then it should show up there if it is internal - if not I have no ideas for you
[04:51] <Stormx2> protix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=22918&postcount=5
[04:52] <Stormx2> Thats for speedtouch, though
[04:52] <Barrichello> oi
[04:53] <synmoo> I'm having an issue getting X to start. (EE) No Devices Detected - Using lspci I see my vid card at 0000:01:00.0 how would I specify this for the Bus ID in my xorg.conf? Currently it is set at PCI:1:0:0. I'm using and onboard agp/igp s3 chipset.
[04:53] <Stormx2> Im bored & want to code something for ubuntu >_>
[04:54] <apokryphos> Stormx2: consider helping with #easyubuntu ;-)
[04:54] <Stormx2> apokryphos: What is it coded in?
[04:54] <mcjerry> protix: gotta get back to work. goodluck. talk to ya l8tr
[04:54] <protix> yeh take care brother
[04:54] <apokryphos> Stormx2: bash script, but uses python too
[04:54] <Stormx2> Sweet
[04:55] <Stormx2> I know some bash
[04:55] <apokryphos> Stormx2: http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/
[04:55] <dontblink> hi, would anyone know why ubuntu freezes right after its done loading all the devices and synchronizing the clock and stuff?  All I get after that is a black screen with an underscore in the top left.
[04:55] <protix> Stormx2 : what do u want me to do with that link ?
[04:56] <christianp> hi all
[04:56] <avgasse> I have an installation problem. I'm doing a server-expert installation on a Toshiba Satellite 4030CDS. The installation freezes in "Configuring apt...", at 25%, with "Checking for CD-ROM..."
[04:56] <ardchoille> hi christianp
[04:57] <mrkoje> dontblink,  does x crash or does your whole system lock up
[04:57] <synmoo> donblink, have you tried looking at other console sessions? (alt-F1, alt-F2, etc)
[04:58] <Enlil_Ishtar> hello all
[04:58] <dontblink> mrkoje: it all locks up
[04:58] <Enlil_Ishtar> I just downloaded (and, I presume, installed) xine-ui from synaptic. But euh... where it is now? How do I run it?
[04:58] <dontblink> synmoo, would i do that right as the loading screen pops up?
[04:59] <UbuntuNewbie> Hi all!  I have decided to take the plunge and install Ubuntu.  I come from a Windows background, are there any docs around that help introduce how to do things in Linux that you would need to do in Windows (install firewalls, configure devices, etc).?
[04:59] <dontblink> im using the install version, not the live cd, btw
[04:59] <ardchoille> Enlil_Ishtar: xine should be in Applications -> Sound & Video -> Xine
[04:59] <synmoo> dontblink, that was just a hunch that maybe x started but hung, if that were the case you might be able to see other ttys. Don't listen to me, I'm a newb too. heh
[05:00] <ompaul> ubuntulog, not really we don't do the firewall gig - what video card do you have and what way do you connect to the internet
[05:00] <ardchoille> synmoo: actually, that was a good troubleshooting technique
[05:00] <Enlil_Ishtar> ardchoille> I already looker there, but no, there is no xine :x
[05:01] <Enlil_Ishtar> looked*
[05:01] <benplaut> what do i need to set up a scanner? it's supported (HP PSC 1610), but i'm not sure what libs, utils, etc
[05:01] <gnomefreak> UbuntuNewbie,  no need to install firewall it is built into the kernel
[05:01] <nalioth> UbuntuNewbie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[05:01] <ardchoille> Enlil_Ishtar: have you logged out of gnome and back in?
[05:01] <synmoo> ardchoille: I messed around with caldera like 6 years ago. I remember that little tidbit hah.
[05:01] <Enlil_Ishtar> ardchoille>ah, no. Let's do that =)
[05:01] <ardchoille> synmoo: :)
[05:01] <trappist> packet filtering code is built in to the kernel, but something needs to tell it which packets to filter
[05:01] <ardchoille> Enlil_Ishtar: wait!
[05:01] <Enlil_Ishtar> :o
[05:01] <Enlil_Ishtar> what?
[05:01] <webwolf_27> benplaut, sane
[05:01] <ardchoille> Enlil_Ishtar: I have found that opening a term and doing: killall gnome-panel  will reload the menus
[05:01] <synmoo> archoille: did you read my message about my X problem? so I repaste it?
[05:02] <Enlil_Ishtar> archoille> ok, thx
[05:02] <ardchoille> yw
[05:02] <benplaut> webwolf_27: thanks
[05:02] <dontblink> could the freezing be a video card/driver issue?
[05:02] <webwolf_27> benplaut, np
[05:03] <Enlil_Ishtar> euh...
[05:03] <Enlil_Ishtar> ah, it's okay
[05:03] <Enlil_Ishtar> and xine is where it has to be :DS
[05:03] <Enlil_Ishtar> :D*
[05:03] <Enlil_Ishtar> thanks a lot ardchoille :)
[05:03] <ardchoille> Enlil_Ishtar: you're welcome :)
[05:04] <synmoo> I'm having an issue getting X to start. (EE) No Devices Detected - Using lspci I see my vid card at 0000:01:00.0 how would I specify this for the Bus ID in my xorg.conf? Currently it is set at PCI:1:0:0. I'm using and onboard agp/igp s3 chipset.
[05:04] <doonz> hey guys
[05:04] <ardchoille> hi doonz
[05:04] <doonz> im trying to find an iso of the last ubuntu release hoary is the name
[05:05] <synmoo> doonz: check torrent sites?
[05:05] <Neoandini> Hi everybody
[05:05] <henry> hey
[05:05] <ardchoille> doonz: the latest Ubuntu release is 5.10 (Breezy). Hoary is the 5.04 release.
[05:06] <doonz> yeah
[05:06] <Enlil_Ishtar> han!
[05:06] <Stormx2> >.<
[05:06] <doonz> but my brothers computer is still the old release
[05:06] <doonz> and i dont have time to redo it
[05:06] <henry> Hello everyboby
[05:06] <Enlil_Ishtar> I selected a video to be read by xine, and.... xine closed :s
[05:06] <ardchoille> doonz: ah
[05:06] <nalioth> doonz: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:06] <doonz> but i need to add samba to it and i need the disc
[05:06] <doonz> thanx guys
[05:06] <protix> soo
[05:06] <doonz> i will be upgrading his comp this coming weekend
[05:06] <protix> nobody can help meh?
[05:07] <Stormx2> protix; Post on ubuntuforums.org
[05:07] <Stormx2> protix: Giving your modem, etc
[05:07] <ardchoille> protix: ubuntuforums.org is awesome :)
[05:07] <protix> really
[05:07] <henry> Hello Ladies
[05:07] <protix> but i do not no what to post really
[05:08] <henry> Any nice lady in here?
[05:08] <nalioth> henry: you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <spiregrain> search for previous posts made by other folks
[05:08] <Epix_> Hey, any good network games in ubuntu (think lan parties)
[05:08] <henry> no just joking.I am tried of man
[05:10] <henry> Merry x-mas
[05:10] <ardchoille> Ubuntu ROCKS!
[05:10] <henry> Nalioth,how do you spend ur christmas holiday?
[05:10] <nalioth> henry: you should ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:10] <Epix_> ?
[05:10] <henry> How do things work here.
[05:10] <henry> I never did this before.
[05:10] <nalioth> henry: this is a help channel, not a chat channel. for general chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <Epix_> henry: if you are on topic, talk. if not, leave for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <Enlil_Ishtar> When I install codecs, they are used by every multimedia player on my computer? Their aren't reserved for only one or two of them I suppose?
[05:11] <Epix_> is there a linux port of farcry
[05:11] <henry> ok,thanks
[05:11] <hxkoh> Hello
[05:11] <dbernar1> do you ahve to have a root account enabled for samba to work properly?
[05:11] <hxkoh> could someone help me out?
[05:11] <nalioth> Enlil_Ishtar: they should be usable by all the players
[05:11] <bkw> Are there any good tools for writing DVD discs else than k3b?
[05:11] <nalioth> dbernar1: no you do not.
[05:11] <Enlil_Ishtar> malioth>ok tx
[05:11] <hxkoh> I've just completed installation for Kubuntu, what should I do now?
[05:11] <hxkoh> i know there ar eseveral other thing sto install, but how and what I am clueless
[05:12] <ardchoille> bkw: graveman?
[05:12] <nalioth> hxkoh: at your login screen, click 'sessions' > 'kde'
[05:12] <hxkoh> also, I can't seem to locate KDE Control Center
[05:12] <dbernar1> nalioth: even for nt domain setup, or are you just talking about file and print sharing?
[05:12] <nalioth> hxkoh: you might ask in #kubuntu
[05:12] <bkw> ardchoille: do you think it's better than k3b?
[05:12] <nalioth> dbernar1: you dont need root for anything. sudo works fine
[05:12] <CioN> hey how do i use flwm?
[05:13] <dbernar1> nalioth: you know about nt domains, though, right?
[05:13] <henry> How do i chat in here?
[05:13] <ardchoille> bkw: actually, I use cdrecord and have never used k3b, but graveman is a nice gui burner
[05:13] <gnomefreak> henry,  use the keyboard
[05:13] <nalioth> henry: you type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and chat in there
[05:13] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:13] <bur[n] er> gnomebaker is nice too
[05:13] <CioN> anyone here uses other window mangaer than nautilus?
[05:13] <ardchoille> nalioth: lol
[05:13] <bur[n] er> nautilus isn't a window manager
[05:13] <bur[n] er> CioN: metacity is a window manager
[05:13] <nalioth> dbernar1: i havent used windows or had a windows machine in my house in years, so i'm kinda lost. but sudo will do anything you need
[05:14] <CioN> sorry metacity
[05:14] <bur[n] er> CioN: in that case, yes ;)
[05:14] <bkw> ardchoille: is writing(burnproof) dvd images made easily with cdrecord?
[05:14] <CioN> i'd like to get my desktop lighter
[05:14] <CioN> any advice?
[05:14] <bur[n] er> CioN: xubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <dabaR> nalioth: how do you append to a file with sudo? is it an option with tee?
[05:14] <CioN> xfce?
[05:14] <bur[n] er> CioN: yep
[05:14] <ardchoille> bkw: I don't know, I don't use DVD's, maybe man cdrecord has some useful info
[05:14] <nalioth> dabaR: sudo -i gets you a superuser shell. have fun
[05:14] <gnomefreak> yes CioN
[05:14] <jhaig> CioN: twm?  :-P
[05:14] <CioN> does it have good support ?
[05:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CioN about xubuntu
[05:15] <bur[n] er> CioN: define support?
[05:15] <nalioth> CioN: yes, the support is the same as for kubuntu or ubuntu
[05:15] <CioN> like i need gnome to run xfce corrrectly right?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bkw  about cdrecord
[05:15] <dabaR> no
[05:15] <gnomefreak> than dont tell him :(
[05:15] <jhaig> OK, I have now tried to install 3 times, with different partitioning, and each time it fails on reboot with a "crc error" but no more information.  Does anyone have any idea what may be wrong?  Or how I can find what might be wrong?
[05:15] <nalioth> CioN: no xfce4 is its own DE
[05:16] <CioN> oh cool
[05:16] <CioN> so i can uinstall gnome??
[05:16] <dabaR> CioN: or use openbox for your wm, even inside gnome. search the forums for "openbox stormy"
[05:16] <mjr> CioN, wouldn't recommend it, many applications depend on gnome
[05:16] <protix> help..
[05:16] <nalioth> CioN: if you like, you may do anything
[05:17] <CioN> dabar opnebox is wmanager?
[05:17] <dabaR> ya
[05:17] <TuxOtaku> question...i have a lexmark Z705 Printer, where can I find a stable driver for it...the only thing i found is an HQX for Caldera OpenLinux
[05:17] <dabaR> ubotu: tell CioN about windowmanagers
[05:18] <Enlil_Ishtar> hmm... I play a video with xine, and it works fine, the first 6secs. Then, the sound goes away.... -_- why?
[05:19] <NoWhereMan> I don't know what happened
[05:19] <NoWhereMan> ehm
[05:19] <NoWhereMan> sorry
[05:19] <NoWhereMan> Hi everybody
[05:19] <NoWhereMan> merry xmas (late) and happy new year :)
[05:19] <Stormx2> Merry christmas to you too
[05:20] <NoWhereMan> well
[05:20] <NoWhereMan> now, the question :D
[05:20] <NoWhereMan> I don't know what I did
[05:20] <bles> windows 4 evah
[05:20] <NoWhereMan> but now when I click in Synaptic
[05:21] <_mike> why can i not unrar certain archives?
[05:21] <nalioth> _mike: install 'unrar-nonfree'
[05:21] <NoWhereMan> the settings > Packages Repositories (sorry localized version here)
[05:21] <_mike> i did
[05:21] <_mike> it says it won't unrar it
[05:21] <nalioth> _mike: then the archives may be damaged
[05:21] <NoWhereMan> this just refresh the list as in edit > refresh
[05:22] <NoWhereMan> also, the update manager icon near the clock doesn't popup its window anymore
[05:22] <_mike> it does it with all of my archives
[05:22] <NoWhereMan> so the add application in Application menu
[05:22] <NoWhereMan> and i noticed the Device Manager, too O__O
[05:23] <NoWhereMan> actually many gnome apps... plus synaptic O_O
[05:23] <NoWhereMan> what's up?
[05:24] <ardchoille> NoWhereMan: you seem to be naming apps, but what is the actual problem? Do they all crash? Do they all set your house on fire?
[05:25] <Enlil_Ishtar> lol
[05:25] <NoWhereMan> ardchoille: lol, no they just don't show up they silently fail
[05:25] <NoWhereMan> excepted synaptic
[05:25] <NoWhereMan> that have this strange behaviour when i click on settngs > package repository (or archive) same as edit> refresh Oo
[05:26] <ardchoille> NoWhereMan: run them from a term and see if there is any error output
[05:27] <NoWhereMan> ok, let's see
[05:28] <EricCartman> preinstallation script of .deb package fails, how can I debug this ?
[05:28] <protix> help..
[05:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell protix about anyone
[05:29] <protix> lol
[05:29] <protix> "i have an adsl USB DSL modem and i cannot setup my network can anybody show me ?"
[05:29] <NoWhereMan> ardchoille: acc, you're right: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6231
[05:29] <_mike> are there any applications that would convert a rar archive to a zip archive?
[05:30] <_mike> unrar-free seems to be broke
[05:30] <nalioth> _mike: dont use unrar-free, use unrar-nonfree
[05:30] <_mike> where can i get that sir
[05:30] <nalioth> _mike: in the universe repository
[05:31] <nalioth> _mike: while you're at it, enable the multiverse repo, too
[05:31] <Enlil_Ishtar> hmmm
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _mike about repos
[05:31] <protix> ..
[05:31] <Enlil_Ishtar> I can listen a mp3 with xmms without any problem
[05:31] <Enlil_Ishtar> so, the sound problem doesn't come from the computer
[05:31] <protix> u said ask my question
[05:31] <protix> and u aint even helping?
[05:31] <Enlil_Ishtar> mayve from xine, maybe from the video... :s
[05:31] <Enlil_Ishtar> maybe*
[05:31] <nalioth> protix: i dont know, but i DO know the ".." and "help.." are not valid questions
[05:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell protix about repeat
[05:32] <protix> ?
[05:32] <Mabus06> quick sort of off topic question: ATI X700 Pro or Geforce 6800?
[05:33] <nalioth> Mabus06: nvidia
[05:33] <NoWhereMan> ardchoille: what do you think I shoul do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6231
[05:34] <ardchoille> NoWhereMan: it appears to me that you are missing something, but I am not sure what that is. I would post this info and that output to ubuntuforums.org.
[05:34] <NoWhereMan> acc
[05:34] <NoWhereMan> strange libcairo is installed Oo
[05:34] <EricCartman> come on ? no idea how to find out what's wrong with a preinst script of a deb pacage ?
[05:36] <nalioth> EricCartman: it's probably a bad script in the pkg. what pkg is it?
[05:36] <EricCartman> no the pcakage is OK, mysql-server-4.1
[05:36] <EricCartman> I've installed mysql-5 from dotdeb
[05:36] <Enlil_Ishtar> (same problem with gxine. I also tested with another video)
[05:36] <EricCartman> now I'm trying to downgrade
[05:36] <_mike> will those repositories work with breezy
[05:36] <EricCartman> well, it did work
[05:37] <nalioth> EricCartman: ah, now i see.
[05:37] <nalioth> EricCartman: you'll need to downgrade all the depends, too, i think
[05:37] <EricCartman> preinst script has stop_server in it
[05:37] <Enlil_Ishtar> arf, gaim goes away without any reason :o
[05:38] <Enlil_Ishtar> gaim close, actually, and I don't know why :s
[05:38] <simontemple> onko suomalaisia paikalla?
[05:38] <bkw> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ explains that I should "sudo apt-get install wine winesetuptk"   but I get an error "
[05:38] <bkw> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:38] <bkw>   wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed
[05:38] <bkw> eps: Broken packages"
[05:39] <Enlil_Ishtar> which codecs do you suggest me to install, if I want to play some *.rmvb?
[05:39] <Kyral> I don't even know what .rmvb is
[05:39] <Enlil_Ishtar> lol
[05:39] <Enlil_Ishtar> it's a video file format
[05:39] <Enlil_Ishtar> just as *.avi
[05:40] <Kyral> yah but what does it MEAN?
[05:40] <rabbit> what's the easiest/best way to update firefox?
[05:40] <Kyral> rabbit: to 1.5?
[05:40] <Enlil_Ishtar> ah.... dunno
[05:40] <nalioth> rabbit: wait for dapper
[05:40] <rabbit> Kyral: yeah
[05:40] <Kyral> rabbit: It won
[05:40] <bkw> mhm, nobody who knows how to get wine going?
[05:40] <simontemple> vak juu
[05:40] <Kyral> won't happenm on Breezy
[05:40] <rabbit> nalioth: what's dapper? the next version of ubuntu?
[05:40] <Kyral> rabbit: and I will tell you WHY
[05:40] <nalioth> rabbit: correct
[05:40] <rabbit> Kyral: whaat?
[05:41] <Kyral> rabbit: A lot of packages depend on Firefox for HTML rendering, CSS, etc. So upgrading Firefox touches more packages than you would think
[05:41] <spiregrain> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  <-- here's how
[05:42] <yccheok_> hi, any gnomebaker here? i have a non empty (but still lot of free space, not finalize) DVD, however, gnomebaker not allow me to burn any more file in it
[05:42] <rabbit> Kyral:  so I shouldn't touch it?  just wait for the ubuntu update?
[05:42] <nalioth> rabbit: you can do what you like. you asked for the 'easiest' way
[05:42] <Kyral> rabbit: you can...install alongside the Breezy Firefox
[05:42] <Kyral> Personally I use Epiphany
[05:42] <yccheok_> several small file inside the DVD is burned by using gnomebaker last time. now, i cannot insert file anymore
[05:42] <simontemple> how can i update Ark? I need to extract rar files.
[05:42] <nalioth> simontemple: install unrar-nonfree
[05:43] <rabbit> Kyral: arg..  I shouldn't update firefox?
[05:43] <simontemple> how?
[05:43] <nalioth> simontemple: use synaptic
[05:43] <Kyral> rabbit: that method will basically put two versions of Firefox on your system
[05:44] <rabbit> Kyral: the link spiregrain gave says it's not recommended, (as you said, it breaks some things)
[05:44] <Kyral> rabbit: yah
[05:44] <rabbit> Kyral:  so I'll avoid it
[05:44] <Kyral> rabbit: unless there is some killer thing you need in 1.5, I'd stick with 1.0.7
[05:45] <Kyral> !info firefox dapper
[05:45] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu9 (dapper), Packaged size: 7677 kB, Installed size: 22732 kB
[05:45] <Kyral> !info firefox breezy
[05:45] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[05:46] <rabbit> Kyral: when you update ubuntu it updates firefox?
[05:46] <note> can a noobie get some help?
[05:46] <simontemple> im total beginner with linux
[05:46] <Kyral> rabbit: yah
[05:46] <note> k
[05:46] <Kyral> in April
[05:46] <simontemple> but i like it :D
[05:46] <Kyral> simontemple: learn the power of the command line :D
[05:47] <note> if you didn't set a sudo password in the installation what is it?
[05:47] <rabbit> Kyral: is there a difference between windows and linux firefox profiles? can I migrate my windows profile to here?
[05:47] <nalioth> note: if you ask a question
[05:47] <Kyral> rabbit: I don't know I haven't touched windows in over 6 months
[05:47] <spiregrain> note - blank, I think
[05:47] <nalioth> note: sudo uses YOUR password
[05:47] <Kyral> !sudo
[05:47] <nalioth> spiregrain: sudo uses the USERs password
[05:48] <Kyral> damn bot
[05:48] <simontemple> that's what i have to do......
[05:48] <mirak> j'encule les mouches
[05:48] <nalioth> rabbit: you can, but there is a bit of work to it
[05:48] <Kyral> tell note about sudo
[05:48] <simontemple> i'm really not sure how.....
[05:48] <Kyral> ubotu tell note about sudo
[05:48] <note> all who helped:thnx
[05:48] <Kyral> simontemple: whats the problem?
[05:48] <Epix_> grr, i start quake3 and my mouse is stuck in the right hand corner. it worked before!
[05:49] <rabbit> nalioth:   is there any help pages on doing that?
[05:49] <Kyral> Someone should write a script lol
[05:49] <rabbit> nalioth:  what about extensions?  are linux extensions different?
[05:49] <Kyral> rabbit: some of them are
[05:49] <simontemple> i don't know how and where to start.........
[05:49] <Kyral> rabbit: mainly if they interface with a windows program
[05:49] <Kyral> simontemple: gimme a sec
[05:50] <nalioth> rabbit: the extensions are the same, if you search mozilla forums there is a howto on bringing the profile over
[05:50] <note> did any one else have aa yaboot problem when trying to install to a external drive (usb)
[05:50] <Kyral> simontemple: I wrote a thread about Terminal For Beginners
[05:50] <Kyral> simontemple: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[05:51] <simontemple> ok
[05:51] <Kyral> Actially I have to write something about redirection and the all powerful sed
[05:52] <spiregrain> sed++
[05:52] <beetlefrosch> hi
[05:52] <rabbit> nalioth:  I can't find it..  do you know where on mozilla forums?
[05:52] <Kyral> sed++; sed++ "D
[05:52] <Kyral> no wait
[05:52] <nalioth> note: yaboot won't work with external drives at this time
[05:52] <Kyral> sed *= sed
[05:52] <nalioth> rabbit: i'm looking
[05:53] <Kyral> wanna see how to changeover a Hoary Sources to a Breezy Sources with one command?
[05:53] <yccheok_> how i can check which process is occupied my cd rom? coz i cannot eject my cd rom, i wish to kill tat process
[05:54] <note> nalioth:  figured that out after some browsing. but can use my 250 gb drive for program installation or something? As it is just going to waste if I don't use it
[05:54] <Kyral> sudo sed s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <rraajj> yccheok_: Try "eject".
[05:55] <Kyral> Tell me what ain't cool
[05:55] <nalioth> note: yes you can use external drivers for everything BUT your / filesystem
[05:55] <nalioth> note: er, drives
[05:55] <Kyral> s/what/that
[05:55] <ardchoille> Kyral: wouldn't that be sudo sed 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:55] <Kyral> ardchoille: I dunno///
[05:56] <Kyral> ardchoille: I know that g matches more..
[05:56] <Kyral> maybe
[05:56] <ardchoille> ;)
[05:56] <Kyral> but still a one command to changeover a sources.list :D
[05:57] <rabbit> nalioth: what do you think of this:  http://sillydog.org/netscape/kb/linuxwindows.html
[05:57] <ardchoille> Kyral: true, that is cool :)
[05:57] <nalioth> rabbit: http://www.google.com/search?q=moving+mozilla+profiles&ie=UTF8
[05:57] <Epix_> help! quake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...
[05:57] <note> nalioth: thnx at first I was gonna compile my own kernel but I am new and well don't really even know whata  kernel is (I  have basic Unix on os x via x11 knowledge)
[05:59] <ompaul> note, a good idea is to get it working before you break it and understand what is doing what
[05:59] <nalioth> rabbit: the article you posted is kinda old
[05:59] <Epix> help! quake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...
[05:59] <rabbit> nalioth: do you think that would work?  that's better than copying, it would be the same bookmarks and stuff for both win/linux!
[05:59] <rabbit> nalioth:  except, ntfs is read only : (
[05:59] <note> ompaul: I have ubuntu installed on my internal drive but it nly has 15 gb left
[06:00] <rabbit> nalioth:  nevermind
[06:00] <nalioth> rabbit: try it (back up your good profile first) and if it works, great!
[06:00] <MickMcMack> Epix, asking the question twice wont get it answered quicker. :s
[06:00] <rabbit> nalioth:  I don't think it can work, only for fat maybe
[06:00] <klaym> hello! I just burnt a Breezy Badger cd and I'm now still in Hoary. How can I check that the install cd is valid for sure?
[06:00] <nalioth> rabbit: check the link i sent you
[06:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell klaym about verify
[06:00] <Epix> MickMcMack: i wasnt sure if the first one went through, i wasnt identified
[06:01] <note> (I only gave it 20 gb
[06:01] <klaym> nalioth: thanks (and to ubotu)
[06:01] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[06:01] <rabbit> nalioth:  thanks, I'll do some reading here
[06:01] <erisco> I have this strange thing going on... It seems after every time I edit or move a file there is an identical file made with a ~ after it. For example, if I edited index.html, there would be that file plus index.html~
[06:01] <nalioth> erisco: that is a backup copy
[06:01] <erisco> this is not good when I am uploading, as I do not want these ~ files
[06:02] <erisco> nalioth, i was guessing so
[06:02] <erisco> nalioth, how do i remove this feature? or disable it?
[06:02] <nalioth> erisco: use a different editor
[06:03] <erisco> nalioth, so it is the text editor that is doing that?
[06:04] <trappist> or just echo "set nobackup" >> ~/.vimrc
[06:04] <erisco> Ah, I found the setting
[06:04] <erisco> thanks nalioth, I thought it was ubuntu doing it on me, not the editor
[06:04] <nalioth> erisco: i use nano in a console
[06:05] <erisco> nalioth, I also use joe
[06:05] <Epix> can skulltag be 'wine'ed
[06:05] <erisco> nalioth, pico is good too?
[06:05] <digger3> Hi, My gnome applications menu closes so quickly I cannot click on any application, any fix for it?
[06:05] <erisco> nalioth, I would rather the gui over the command line myself
[06:05] <nalioth> erisco: nano is a open source version of pico (which is non-free)
[06:06] <erisco> nalioth, ah I see
[06:06] <nalioth> erisco: there are dozens of gui text editors
[06:06] <erisco> nalioth, I am fond of the text editor, I even just found a great tool for my web developement
[06:06] <erisco> nalioth, it can number the lines for you, which is great when validating!
[06:07] <erisco> anyways, c ya all. Have a good holiday season
[06:07] <nalioth> erisco: there are even more specialized text editors (like bluefish)
[06:07] <pussfeller> do i gotta reboot windows to make it see changes in samba shares?
[06:08] <raptoid> hawe a nice night
[06:08] <raptoid> manzzzzz
[06:09] <pussfeller> and whats the command to check manually what my shares are and if they are working
[06:09] <raptoid> pussfeller, what problem ?
[06:09] <pussfeller> my shares arenet showing up in windows, it keeps saying network is unreachable
[06:10] <pussfeller> but it shows the host In NN
[06:15] <visik7> I'm using ubuntu with gnome and I've some qt programs with big font size how can I resize it ?
[06:16] <simontemple> how can i find terminal???
[06:17] <spiregrain> visik7 - get qtconfig
[06:17] <simontemple> =command-line
[06:17] <note> how do I get mp3's to play
[06:17] <spiregrain> simontemple- Applications/Accessories/Terminal
[06:17] <note> or podcasts
[06:17] <ph8> note: which program?
[06:18] <ph8> amaroK is a really nice MP3 player (although strictly speaking it's for KDE)
[06:18] <nalioth> simontemple: applications > accessories > terminal
[06:18] <ph8> it'll run fine via gnome if you don't some extra crap being started
[06:18] <note> ph8:  am looking for a program
[06:18] <ph8> the default ubuntu one is a bit naff if memory serves
[06:18] <Owner> @note - try using Automatix, search ubunruforums.org for Automatix and it will install mp3 support
[06:18] <ph8> apt-get install amarok
[06:18] <ph8> or find it in Synaptic
[06:18] <visik7> spiregrain: yes while waiting for an answer I found it :)
[06:18] <ph8> Does anyone know if the latest ATI cards (X300s) are now supported with fglrx? I Know they weren't about 3 months ago..
[06:19] <note> ph8: I like amarok but it doesnt usually fit with my theme
[06:19] <simontemple> damn i've got finnish version of ubuntu
[06:19] <ph8> Mplayer?
[06:19] <visik7> spiregrain: is there something like qtconfig for gtk ?
[06:19] <spiregrain> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <---- mp3
[06:19] <Enlil_Ishtar> I've a problem
[06:19] <ph8> you can define a custom colour scheme in amarok options also
[06:19] <nalioth> solcott: please dont recommend automatix, it's not responsible and will break your box
[06:19] <nalioth> !automatix
[06:19] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT! For a safe alternative, see easyubuntu (http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/ )
[06:19] <raptoid> may i help u
[06:19] <Enlil_Ishtar> When I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, there is sound only the first 3 or 4 seconds, and then, no more sound :x
[06:20] <spiregrain> visik - you mean a gtk program that modifies the look of qt programs?
[06:20] <ph8> what's automatix?
[06:20] <nalioth> ph8: a script that breaks your system
[06:20] <visik7> spiregrain: no
[06:20] <visik7> spiregrain: :)
[06:20] <ph8> so i hear, but what's it meant to do?
[06:20] <visik7> spiregrain: a program that modify the look of gtk programs
[06:20] <solcott> I used it to install the non-free codec's, and I have nothing broken
[06:20] <NoWhereMan> spiregrain: but if you know of something able to do that tell me, that I'm interested :)
[06:21] <Enlil_Ishtar> nobody can help me?
[06:21] <spiregrain> visik7- in ubuntu, System/Preferences/Theme can do it
[06:21] <nalioth> solcott: you are either lucky or the hammer hasnt dropped yet.
[06:21] <spiregrain> NoWhereMan- never heard of such an app!
[06:21] <solcott> @ph8, it automates installing a bunch of things, like the newest firefox mplayer plugin for firefox non-free codecs WINE etc etc
[06:22] <solcott> @nalioth, maybe I am lucky, but I have installed on over 100 machines and none of them have problems :)
[06:22] <NoWhereMan> spiregrain: that's a pity :P i used to have gtk-qt on mandriva; i'd have liked having a qt-gtk on ubuntu :p
[06:23] <simontemple> takkar och pokkar
[06:23] <nalioth> solcott: please don't recommend it in here, we've had over 100 users in here who've been screwed by it
[06:23] <solcott> @nanlioth, eek!
[06:23] <nalioth> simontemple: english please in here
[06:24] <simontemple> okey humbly i thank everyone who helped me! :)
[06:24] <Nevis> hi there.
[06:24] <Nevis> i need help with installation.
[06:24] <Spudchat> how do i check what version of a package is installed?
[06:25] <apokryphos> Spudchat: dpkg -l|grep packagename
[06:25] <Spudchat> ty
[06:25] <visik7> spiregrain: yes but I'm lookin' for a standalone program so if I'm in a kde environment I can adjust gtk programs
[06:26] <cliebow_>  anyone up on twekaing Xsession or anotherfile to add extra cmdline options in kdm?
[06:26] <spiregrain> visik7- you could just run "gnome-theme-manager" from a terminal.  or a kterminal, or whatever
[06:27] <visik7> spiregrain: yes but I need some gnome packages
[06:27] <note> k. I am a newbie and I am not sure whether to use gnome, xfce (I have it installed) or KDE
[06:28] <Spudchat> im trying to pin a package and it would appear that the installed vesrion and the version the system wants to upgrade to are the same..any ideas?
[06:28] <ardchoille> note: you should try them all and see which one works best for your needs
[06:28] <Nevis> I'm a newbie wannabe, and I need some help with installation. anyone keen on helping me?
[06:28] <nalioth> note: use them all, and keep on using the one you like the best
[06:28] <note> k
[06:28] <nalioth> Nevis: ask a question to the channel
[06:28] <SWAT> when I connect to a bluetooth device, should it popup somewhere as a mount? (so how can I get to it?)
[06:28] <Nevis> I installed ubuntu 5.10, installation hung up mid-way
[06:29] <Nevis> I can login, but can not start x
[06:29] <ph8> Does anyone know if the latest ATI cards (X300s) are now supported with fglrx? I Know they weren't about 3 months ago..
[06:29] <Nevis> somthing with apt-configuration (I THINK) is wrong
[06:29] <ph8> Nevis: what do the error logs say?
[06:29] <ph8> /var/log/anythingthatlooksapplicable
[06:29] <ph8> and maybe dmesg
[06:29] <SWAT> Nevis, when did it 'hung up' ?
[06:29] <ph8> i believe there's an xorg.log
[06:29] <Nevis> after I set up the system clock
[06:29] <Nevis> said "setting up main installation repository"
[06:30] <Nevis> 25% done
[06:30] <Nevis> then stuck.
[06:30] <note> are you trying to put it on a external drive
[06:30] <Nevis> doesn't respond except for reset.
[06:30] <Nevis> nope. local
[06:30] <Nevis> third partition after two primary ntfs partitions with winxp installed.
[06:30] <Nevis> mobo is an nforce2
[06:30] <Nevis> ABIT
[06:30] <Nevis> if that's at all relevant.
[06:30] <note> then I can't help my local install went fine
[06:31] <Spudchat> allright guys thanks for all the help
[06:31] <Spudchat> i got it workin well now
[06:31] <mike__> is it difficult to upgrade to the newest ubuntu
[06:31] <mike__> from hoary
[06:32] <apokryphos> mike__: no, very easy
[06:32] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[06:32] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:33] <bluefoxicy> dapper has been rather quiet the past few days. . .
[06:33] <bluefoxicy> nobody's uploading anything?
[06:33] <note> is their a way to no destrucivly partition a drive?
[06:33] <bluefoxicy> note:  gparted if you're lucky, from a livecd
[06:35] <nalioth> note: use gparted
[06:35] <I_Am_> hey how do i change an ini file
[06:35] <I_Am_> it only lets me view it
[06:35] <I_Am_> i suspect its got sumtin to do with sudo
[06:36] <synmoo> I'm having an issue getting X to start: (EE) No Devices Found - Using lspci, I've found my video card to be at 0000:01:00.0, how would I set this inside my xorg.conf? Currently, BusID is PCI:1:0:0 but that isn't working. I'm using an onboard AGP/IGP S3 chipset. Anyone have any ideas?
[06:37] <optikal> If I want to add a script to be ran before the fstab is inititiated, what runlevel should I specify when adding to /etc/init.d/?
[06:37] <ROBOd> hey guys
[06:37] <ROBOd> i got motv ... and there's an error when  try to start it: libXm.so not found
[06:37] <ROBOd> where to get it from?
[06:37] <optikal> I know 2 is most common, so Im also curious if runlevel2 scripts are ran prior to the fstab..
[06:38] <Stormx2> Uhg. Any tips on resizing NTFS partitions?
[06:40] <talon> anyone know a good guide for setting up a new monitor with ubuntu, i added a modeline to xorg.conf and ran xresprobe (blank result) and i'm stuck now
[06:41] <talon> got a old 20" as a crimble present :)
[06:41] <mike__> this upgrade is going fairly well
[06:41] <ROBOd> i have scantv .... and it asks me for /dev/vbi ... what is it?
[06:42] <squirrelpimp> hi
[06:43] <ROBOd> anybody? ...
[06:43] <I_Am_> help
[06:43] <I_Am_> i need to change windows boot.ini file and gedit only lets me read it
[06:43] <squirrelpimp> i'm looking for a webcam-application capable of launching a user-supplied coimmand on the image after capturing it.
[06:43] <squirrelpimp> any suggestions?
[06:43] <I_Am_> how do i get gedit to change and save the file?
[06:45] <apricot> hello, i used the code from faq site but there is missing an > in the next statement, please, help!!
[06:45] <apricot> >
[06:45] <apricot> Alias /URL-path /location_of_folder/
[06:45] <apricot> <Directory /location_of_folder/%gt;
[06:45] <apricot>     Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[06:45] <apricot>     AllowOverride All
[06:45] <apricot>     Order allow,deny
[06:45] <apricot>     Allow from all
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[06:46] <trappist> apricot: a) don't paste here.  b) replace %gt; with >
[06:47] <trappist> it was probably supposed to be &gt;, which would have been htmlized into a >
[06:47] <nalioth> apricot: did we not ask you not to paste in here yesterday?
[06:47] <trappist> if so, I recant my helpfulness
[06:48] <squirrelpimp> anyone here knowing such an app?
[06:48] <mike__> when's the new ubuntu getting released
[06:48] <mike__> what's it called?
[06:49] <talon> hi guys, can anyone point me to a good guide for setting up resolutions for my monitor, i followed the one on the site with no luck. Got a 20" for crimble and it isn't really an upgrade as i'm now stuck in 800x600
[06:49] <beetlefrosch> #loeblich
[06:49] <trappist> !tell talon about fixres
[06:49] <nalioth> mike__: ubuntu releases every 6 months in april and october
[06:49] <mike__> talon: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:49] <braniff> how do i boot 5.10 (breezy) into recovery mode ??
[06:50] <mike__> Seveas is my hero
[06:50] <talon> trappist: & mike__: thanks alot guys i'll give that a spin, very kind of you
[06:50] <mike-e> =)
[06:51] <ROBOd> i got motv ... and there's an error when  try to start it: libXm.so not found... where to get it?
[06:53] <Enlil_Ishtar> When I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, there is sound only the first 3 or 4 seconds, and then, no more sound :x
[06:53] <ph8> Anyone think it's possible to reiser my partition from ext3 without losing any data or will I need to back it all up offsite?
[06:53] <mike-e> =o
[06:53] <Enlil_Ishtar> anyone can help me?
[06:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Enlil_Ishtar about sound
[06:54] <Enlil_Ishtar> ok ^
[06:54] <nalioth> ph8: why you'd want to go to reiser is beyond me, but back up your stuff
[06:54] <Enlil_Ishtar> ^^*
[06:54] <trappist> <3 reiser
[06:54] <mike-e> ph8: i'd back it up
[06:54] <mike-e> reiser is the fs for solaris right?
[06:54] <nalioth> mike-e: you can use it here, too
[06:54] <trappist> no
[06:55] <ph8> I was under the impression reiser is the most elite FS out there
[06:55] <ph8> why wouldn't I want to change to it?
[06:55] <mike-e> heh
[06:55] <ph8> no.. really
[06:55] <ph8> :)
[06:55] <mike-e> you gonna drink jolt cola whilst compiling shit on that fs?
[06:56] <tmorton> How can I extract the files in a deb?
[06:56] <ph8> A chap I know heard i was using ext and was mortified
[06:56] <trappist> ph8: that's the word hans reiser puts out there.  I like it fine but I don't believe everything hans says about it.
[06:56] <mike-e> he's a moron then
[06:56] <ph8> So its not quicker and just generally better than ext3?
[06:56] <trappist> ph8: it wastes less space than ext3 and is faster if you have zillions of small files
[06:56] <mjr> it's not generally better
[06:57] <ph8> I see
[06:57] <mike-e> i'm getting a lot of locale errors during this hoary -> breezy upgrade, is that typical?
[06:57] <ph8> so it's a good bet in your opinion(s) to stay with ext3?
[06:57] <nalioth> mike-e: language please
[06:57] <mjr> for reliability, I'd pick ext3
[06:57] <ph8> Ah ok, cheers
[06:57] <ph8> my hoary -> breezy upgrade was a nightmare
[06:57] <ph8> probably because i was uninstalling kde at the same time
[06:57] <mike-e> maybe i'l just grab an iso
[06:57] <trollducky> nalioth, it seems you need a script
[06:57] <trollducky> dag*^#$t
[06:58] <trollducky> ;-)
[06:58] <ph8> Here's an interesting problem: Whenever I plug in my printer /dev/usb/lp0 (printer) is set to a set of permissions/ownership that stops me using it unless I 777 it, anyone else had this problem?
[06:58] <mike-e> i have ran into problems with perl and locales on debian sarge too tho, this seems to be the same error
[06:58] <trollducky> trappist, I hate #*^$ing Reiser
[06:58] <trollducky> and not just under krnl 2.4.8
[06:58] <trollducky> (the FS, not the man, of course)
[06:59] <trappist> trollducky: you're allowed to hate it
[06:59] <trappist> I hate xfs
[06:59] <Enlil_Ishtar> nalioth> well, this help seems to apply if I have no sound at all. But I have sounds. The Ubuntu sounds, I can listen to a *.mp3, and I have sound at the begining of the video (and then it become mute)
[06:59] <mike-e> jeeze, anyong get a bunch of locale errors when upgrading to breezy?
[06:59] <nalioth> trollducky: trappist: a forest awaits in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <mike-e> nalioth, lol
[06:59] <trollducky> trappist, I've never actually used xfs, what differentiaties from everything else?
[07:00] <nalioth> Enlil_Ishtar: your sound server needs tweaking, read all the info at the wiki
[07:00] <trollducky> oh, shee-oot -- sorry -- wrong window
[07:00] <mike-e> nalioth, that's the funniest way of calling someone a troll i've ever heard
[07:00] <Enlil_Ishtar> ok
[07:00] <trollducky> <-- mike-e
[07:00] <ph8> Sorry for the multitude of questions but how would i go about updating the kernel to the latest everytime without specifying 2.6.18 or whatever - i heard there was a way to do it, is it apt-get install linux-686?
[07:01] <ROBOd> guys ... i see the tuner image in vlc and in xawtv ...
[07:01] <mike-e> mozilla pisses me off with these profiles crap
[07:01] <ROBOd> but ... in xawtv i can't change the frequencies in a proper way ...
[07:01] <note> sry but closed the main amarok window and cant get it back
[07:01] <ROBOd> meaning: they have predefined tables for countries
[07:01] <nalioth> ph8: your box will update to the latest kernel by itself
[07:01] <trappist> ph8: I believe it's apt-get install linux
[07:02] <ph8> nalioth: hmmm
[07:02] <aidehua> trollducky: use ext3! http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/reiserfs.html
[07:02] <ph8> i have 2.6.12 and .10 installed i think
[07:03] <trollducky> aidehua, I do -- almost exclusively
[07:03] <ROBOd> i can't get it to scan all frequencies (only with scantv ... which doesn't find any channel)
[07:03] <visik7> can someone send his menu.lst of the standard ubuntu install ?
[07:03] <ph8> mine didn't update, it appears 2.6.12-10 is out and i have -9
[07:04] <note> nvm
[07:04] <nalioth> ph8: that sounds weird.
[07:04] <Enlil_Ishtar> how to restart the sound server?
[07:06] <note> why wont amarok play
[07:06] <note> i have a podcast lloaded mp3's can play but  hear nothing
[07:06] <Boogyman> Im using a laptop and I am trying to permanantly disable the touchpad when I start I have tried the stuff on the forums I have no ability to disable the pad from the bios this command works: sudo modprobe -r psmouse but I have to do it every time I start the computer is there a way to make a hotkey to do it or to have it auto run?
[07:07] <ph8> note: firewalls?
[07:07] <note> i dled the podcast already
[07:07] <ph8> You can definitely make it autorun boogyman
[07:07] <ph8> I don't even know what a podcast is, i'm a bit behind the times - i assumed it was steaming audio
[07:07] <trappist> Boogyman: just take psmouse out of /etc/modules
[07:08] <ph8> * streaming
[07:08] <note> well
[07:08] <optikal> If I want to add a script to be ran before the fstab is inititiated, what runlevel should I specify when adding to /etc/init.d/? (or does runlevel 2 get initiated before fstab?)
[07:08] <note> it isnt but the way it is dled is streaming
[07:08] <Boogyman> going to try that thank you trappist
[07:08] <note> off a rss server and a rss feeder can intercept it
[07:08] <ph8> surely if fstab isn't loaded you couldn't access the filesystem?
[07:10] <optikal> ph8: haha good point.  I need to run a script (dmraid) to activate my raid, and then I need to mount my raid after the script is ran..  how would you recommend going about this?
[07:12] <mike-e> whoever told me earlier that upgrading from hoary to breezy was blatently wrong
[07:13] <ROBOd> how to check if i have bttv driver installed?
[07:13] <kemik> mike-e:  was wrong about what?
[07:13] <trappist> ROBOd: modprobe -la | grep bttv
[07:13] <ROBOd> i have in Device Manager BT878 Video and Audio devices
[07:14] <ROBOd> trappist: yes, thanks, i got it
[07:14] <tuv> how do i upgrade the ipw2200 drivers? there is no ipw2200-source package
[07:14] <mike-e> kemik, about it being simple
[07:14] <kemik> ah
[07:14] <Viper550> Hi again ev1!
[07:15] <Viper550> I run KDE 3.5
[07:15] <ROBOd> trappist: the fact I see the TV noise in vlc when selecting the /dev/video0 via v4l ... does mean the tuner is properly installed and working?
[07:15] <tuv> can i use debian's ipw2200-source package?
[07:15] <Viper550> I also have transparent menus!
[07:15] <trappist> ROBOd: probably means you need to change the channel
[07:15] <ROBOd> trappist: i know that :)
[07:16] <tuv> do i have to worry about removing the existing ipw2200 kernel modules before installing the new ones?
[07:16] <ROBOd> trappist: now ... i got xawtv ... it also shows me the TV noise ... but ... the TV channel scanning does not work properly
[07:16] <Viper550> Is there any channel for Gnome here?
[07:16] <ROBOd> trappist: i am in Romania ... and the channels table is different
[07:16] <nalioth> Viper550: you are in it
[07:16] <trappist> ROBOd: what's your input source? maybe you need to change the channels on that
[07:16] <Viper550> this is Ubuntu, not Gnome!
[07:17] <mike-e> rofl
[07:17] <Viper550> nm, just figured it out!
[07:17] <ROBOd> trappist: is there a way to change the frequency manualy?
[07:17] <Viper550> irc.gnome.org
[07:17] <mike-e> see you in 2 seconds viper
[07:17] <mike-e> haha
[07:17] <trappist> ROBOd: I've never used bttv.  my card is ivtv.  but I'm sure it's in the docs.
[07:17] <ROBOd> trappist: which docs? :)
[07:17] <trappist> the bttv docs
[07:18] <ROBOd> input source is television .. input device /dev/video0
[07:18] <ROBOd> i don't know them :)
[07:19] <ROBOd> doing modprobe bttv shows nothing
[07:19] <ROBOd> is that normal?
[07:19] <trappist> that's a good thing.
[07:19] <trappist> yeah.
[07:19] <trappist> ROBOd: check dmesg
[07:19] <trappist> Boogyman: how'd it go
[07:19] <Boogyman> didn't work its still working when pc starts
[07:20] <ROBOd> trappist: thanks
[07:20] <Boogyman> should I annotate it out with # or was I suppose to erase it from there completely
[07:20] <ROBOd> trappist: is there a way to nicely change frequencies in vlc?
[07:20] <Boogyman> cause I just did the #
[07:20] <ROBOd> because i have to always restart the playback ... to change freq
[07:20] <mike-e> Boogyman, commenting what out
[07:20] <trappist> Boogyman: I don't know if it gets loaded by hotplug, but if it does you can add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:21] <trappist> ROBOd: I don't use vlc either :)
[07:21] <ROBOd> :)
[07:21] <mike-e> vlc is unstable imo
[07:21] <mike-e> compared to totem
[07:21] <Boogyman> k will try that now
[07:21] <ROBOd> trappist: what app do you use?
[07:21] <trappist> mplayer
[07:21] <ROBOd> for TV??
[07:21] <trappist> yeah
[07:21] <trappist> mplayer /dev/video0
[07:22] <trappist> but my source is cable, so I have to change channels on the box.
[07:22] <Mchas> hi xubuntu is not yet out  as an image iso  ?
[07:22] <Boogyman> would I just put: psmouse
[07:22] <Boogyman> in the blacklist
[07:22] <Mchas> please
[07:22] <Surak> crimsun: there?
[07:24] <mike-e> can i install ubuntu from a floppy disk over a network
[07:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mike-e about smartboot
[07:24] <pramz> hello everyone
[07:24] <ROBOd> trappist: i also have motv ... but i can't start it ... because it asks for libxm.so
[07:25] <Boogyman> trappist do I just ad the line in the blacklist file
[07:25] <ROBOd> trappist: any idea where to get it from?
[07:25] <visik7> how can I run flash player with esd ?
[07:26] <visik7> esddsp firefox doesn't work
[07:26] <mike-e> wtf
[07:26] <mike-e> rawwrite is a windows application
[07:27] <Mchas> so the only way for the moment is to install it with xfce ?
[07:27] <mike-e> Mchas, what
[07:27] <tRSS> quick question. whenever I try to run a win32 app with cedega, i get this error: /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: can't exec 'notepad': invalid exe file
[07:28] <tRSS> can someone help me with this?
[07:28] <trappist> ROBOd: lesstif-dev
[07:29] <trappist> Boogyman: yeah
[07:29] <Stormx2> hola
[07:29] <Mchas> official xubuntu is not yet out ?
[07:29] <nalioth> Mchas: install "xubuntu-desktop"
[07:29] <ROBOd> trappist: thanks
[07:29] <Stormx2> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <Stormx2> ;-)
[07:29] <nalioth> Mchas: it is out, but not as an iso image yet
[07:29] <Mchas> ok its just only my question and i have my answer ...thanks
[07:29] <Lord_Athur> hi there
[07:30] <mike-e> what's xubuntu?
[07:30] <mike-e> !xubuntu
[07:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:30] <mike-e> ohhh NICE
[07:30] <mike-e> that is sweet
[07:31] <Aphex11> hi, could ANYONE please help me installing FIREFOX on my ubuntu linux? (i am a newbie)
[07:31] <Stormx2> XFCE is lightweight gnome, kinda
[07:31] <nalioth> Aphex11: it should be there already
[07:31] <Lord_Athur> i'm adding the squashfs patch to the system, how much time does this need to be added to the kernel?
[07:32] <mike-e> Stormx2, hardly
[07:32] <trappist> Lord_Athur: as much time as it takes to patch, recompile, install and reboot
[07:32] <trappist> Lord_Athur: assuming you get it all right the first time
[07:32] <Lord_Athur> mmm
[07:32] <spiregrain> aphex11 - try the "Add Applications" menu item.
[07:33] <Enlil_Ishtar> nalioth> I did every changes that the wiki told me, but... :s
[07:33] <biruh> hello all!! how can i play mp3 in ubuntu? am kinda new. thanx
[07:33] <spiregrain> There is currently no official way to get Firefox 1.5 at the moment
[07:33] <trappist> !tell spiregrain about mp3
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> bye
[07:33] <Enlil_Ishtar> Actually, the sound goes in and out "randomly"
[07:33] <Aphex11> spiregrain.... I did but it dosnt UPDATE my firefox (1.0.7 to 1.5)
[07:33] <spiregrain> oi! don't tell me, tell biru!
[07:33] <Enlil_Ishtar> smetimes I have sound... sometimes not.. :x
[07:33] <trappist> oops
[07:33] <trappist> !tell biruh about mp3
[07:34] <Boogyman> ok testing it out again and thank you for advice so far trappist
[07:34] <Enlil_Ishtar> anyone have codecs to recommand me if I wanna play some *.rmvb?
[07:34] <visik7> is there a way to get flashplayer plugin working with esd ?
[07:35] <Aphex11> Spiregrain, does that mean that FIREFOX 1.5 is currently not available for Linux or Ubuntu Distros ??
[07:35] <visik7> Enlil_Ishtar: w32codecs or just use vlc
[07:35] <spiregrain> Aphex11- There is currently no official way to get Firefox 1.5 at the moment... but see here for something that might work for you:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:35] <Enlil_Ishtar> visik7>okay
[07:35] <trappist> Aphex11: it just hasn't been packaged for breezy yet, but you can install the mozilla.org tarballs
[07:35] <psusi> Aphex11: firefox 1.5 is not officially supported in ubuntu breezy badger... it will be in dapper drake
[07:36] <visik7> easyBreesy has ff 1.5
[07:36] <mirak> Removing cupsys-driver-gimpprint invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "force-reload" failed.
[07:36] <mirak> dpkg: error processing cupsys-driver-gimpprint (--remove):
[07:36] <visik7> easyBreezy has ff 1.5
[07:36] <trappist> Aphex11: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:36] <spiregrain> I'm using ff 1.5 just fine, following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:36] <mirak> I want to remove it, that's on a dapper secondary install. I just want to know how to force the remove, I tried --force-all
[07:36] <mirak> doesn't work
[07:37] <Aphex11> thanks trappist
[07:37] <Aphex11> thanks Spiregrain
[07:37] <visik7> mirak: do u have removed the init.d script by hand ?
[07:37] <mirak> visik7: no
[07:37] <mirak> visik7: I can't install nor remove
[07:38] <mike-e> is there a linux port of WoW?
[07:38] <visik7> u can't 'couse postremove and preinstall scripts fails
[07:38] <Aphex11> but this wont happen on SuSe , right ? Yast will install everything effortless right ?
[07:38] <mirak> visik7: beside doing a clean install what option do I have ?
[07:39] <koro> Hi. I just installed ubuntu but my audio device wasn't detected. Can someone point me to a howto or a faq to deal with that?
[07:39] <nalioth> Aphex11: you're limited by the suse devs as you are by the ubuntu ones
[07:39] <Aphex11> coz since i am THAT new i was thinking to start on  sUSEand not on ubuntu...its getting kinda hard here
[07:39] <koro> the device manager shows two unknown PNP devices
[07:39] <Stormx2> mike-e: it is really.
[07:39] <visik7> mirak: investigate the script
[07:39] <mirak> visik7: I am in a chroot, can this be a problem ?
[07:39] <spiregrain> I don't know Yast, but I guess, like Ubuntu, each application will have to get added to the Yast system as it comes out
[07:39] <visik7> mirak: no
[07:39] <Aphex11> ohh... so what would be a good start for me ? .... stay on win ? lol
[07:40] <nalioth> Aphex11: ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. you can't say that with any other distro
[07:40] <Aphex11> ohh this is an ubuntu chan..i forgot... its not forbidden to talk about opther alternative distros, right ?
[07:40] <ilba7r> aphex depend what you want to do with your pc
[07:40] <spiregrain> so you've gotta wait (sometimes several months) for each new version to get added in
[07:40] <paulproteus|lapt> nalioth: I thought Fedora did that, too.
[07:40] <visik7> mirak: check /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.<postinst|prerm|postrm>
[07:40] <nalioth> paulproteus|lapt: i think fedora has a lot longer release schedule
[07:40] <paulproteus|lapt> Aphex11: Not forbidden, no.
[07:41] <flodine> has anyone loaded pekwm on ubuntu
[07:41] <Aphex11> ilba7r:  It just want to see if i can get rid of windowse without starting to miss it...you know dont want to be stuck with windoze.... after all that LINUX RULES articles i read
[07:42] <Aphex11> thanks paulproteus|lapt
[07:42] <ilba7r> aphex11 have a look at distowatch. It has nice recommendation depending on how you use your pc. MEPIS come with lot of restricted (property) software preinstalled you might try that but do some research
[07:42] <avgasse> I installed Ubuntu with the server install, and it didn't ask me for the root password. So what is it/how can I change it?
[07:42] <nalioth> Aphex11: you can dual boot until you see that windows is no needed
[07:42] <paulproteus|lapt> !tell avgasse about root
[07:42] <nalioth> avgasse: ubuntu doesnt have the root model of superuser
[07:42] <trappist> Aphex11: there's some work and some learning to do before dumping windows forever.  spend some time getting comfortable with linux, then see if you can go a week without windows.  then a month.  then reclaim the disk space used by windows.
[07:42] <JRlinux> Warning:  Latest Ubuntu automatic upgrade on my 5.10 installation replaced my Grub, thereby losing my Mepis Partition!
[07:42] <theeil> how would i go about getting an intel pro/wireless 2915ABG card working?
[07:42] <Aphex11> i read about ubunto onm distrowatch.... i felt that would be the Dsitro which should fit my needs
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell theeil about wireless
[07:43] <avgasse> Ah ok... but on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu I read that I have to do "sudonano/etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:43] <jordo23> Anyone know the .deb repository link for Azureus?
[07:44] <nalioth> avgasse: sudo uses the users password
[07:44] <Aphex11> nalioth, thanks but i didnt wipe my windoze on my main pc ...this ubuntu pc is my testing pc...
[07:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jordo23 about azureus
[07:44] <ilba7r> jrlinux it is not lost just edit /boot/grub/menu/list and remount it again
[07:44] <Aphex11> trappist, yeh you are right..thats what i was planning to do
[07:44] <avgasse> gee thanks a lot!
[07:44] <nalioth> Aphex11: good then. perhaps one day you can have ubuntu on all your PCs
[07:44] <Aphex11> i certainly hope so....
[07:44] <JRlinux> ilba7r, I am doing it... (but it is a nuisance, nonetheless).  Oh, well, I keep learning.
[07:45] <dylan_> i did the upgrade to Firefox 1.5....i installed mozilla-mplayer and the w32codecs.  however, whenever i go to apple trailers to watch a movie, the browser quits and firefox is gone.  i have to bringi t up again.  what do i do?
[07:45] <ilba7r> aphex11 with linux you will always need to read and customize to your needs. You need to do a little work with restricted formats with ubuntu
[07:46] <Aphex11> nalioth, i just read something in here which reminded me of another question i had. Why wasnt i asked for a root password while installing? how can I access ROOT? wasnt allowed to login ass root on graph interface.. and where is  Konsole ? its kinda difrent from other distros i have seen before...
[07:46] <nalioth> dylan_: the apple codecs currently used are not viewable, iirc
[07:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aphex11 about root
[07:46] <nalioth> Aphex11: read the Whole wiki article please
[07:46] <dylan_> nalioth, that really sucks
[07:47] <Aphex11> i will... thanks man
[07:47] <nalioth> dylan_: thank apple for qt7
[07:47] <visik7> ok solved the problem with flash
[07:47] <Enlil_Ishtar> han
[07:47] <Enlil_Ishtar> VLC refuse to read the video I want :s
[07:47] <Aphex11> ilba7r, thats what kept me away from linux os's
[07:48] <P8ntKid_> How do you change the language in limewire? Somehow it got changed to french or something and i dont know how to change it back.
[07:48] <Aphex11> ppl ill be reading all your articles, thanks for help ill come back in 30 min
[07:48] <Aphex11> thx !
[07:49] <mirak> visik7: it's to muich broken
[07:49] <mad_phoenix> has anybody been able to succesfully set up freenx on ubuntu?
[07:50] <visik7> mirak: sorry ?
[07:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mad_phoenix about freenx
[07:53] <dylan_> why arent there any linux viruses/spyware/
[07:53] <trappist> they exist
[07:53] <trappist> it's hard to make effective ones though
[07:53] <trappist> because everybody doesn't run around as root all the time
[07:53] <dylan_> can i secure windows 2000 to be like linux?
[07:54] <trappist> dylan_: wrong channel
[07:54] <DRK13> no bylen
[07:54] <DRK13> dylen
[07:54] <dylan_> DRK13, its dylan
[07:54] <DRK13> lol  sorry
[07:54] <dylan_> its fine
[07:54] <DRK13> cant type today
[07:54] <dylan_> where cani  go to learn about securing windows
[07:54] <trappist> dylan_: google.com
[07:54] <mirak> visik7: it's broken somewhere else
[07:54] <dylan_> i mean, i want it secure like linux...unless linux isnt secure by default
[07:54] <mirak> visik7: don't know how to fix that
[07:54] <MFen> can anyone suggest an efficient replacement for the X protocol, compatible with existing gui software, and available in ubuntu?
[07:54] <psusi> trappist: and in general, linux software doesn't do stupid things like download and run untrusted binary code when you read your email...
[07:54] <dylan_> is linux secure by default
[07:55] <mirak> visik7: freenx
[07:55] <MFen> i'm trying to run X programs over what is right now a lossy connection, and it's painful
[07:55] <mirak> visik7: sorry wrong nick
[07:55] <nalioth> dylan_: yes it is.
[07:55] <Surak> dylan: you are comparing too different stuff. in fact, windows 2000 is still being maintained?
[07:55] <trappist> MFen: a replacement for the protocol?
[07:55] <mirak> MFen: freenx
[07:55] <MFen> trappist: something more efficient
[07:55] <mirak> MFen: google NX
[07:55] <MFen> mirak: any quick howtos on getting that to work w/ ubuntu?
[07:55] <trappist> !tell MFen about freenx
[07:55] <chemaFPA_>  Hi, Whe you download a Deb from de web, there are some way to install thath resolving the dependencies automatically?
[07:55] <mirak> MFen: google ubuntu freenx
[07:56] <mirak> MFen: #freenx
[07:56] <MFen> mirak: teh awesomes. thanks :)
[07:56] <nalioth> chemaFPA_: it is not advised to install 'debs from the web'
[07:56] <mirak> MFen: I know there is ubuntu howtos
[07:56] <MFen> i'm on freenx
[07:56] <alvanson> How do I tell Ubuntu to NOT load the agpgart module?
[07:56] <MFen> there's nobody here
[07:56] <dylan_> nalioth, so if linux is secure, why are there all these guides on the internet showing us how to secure linux?
[07:57] <nalioth> dylan_: because everything can be made MORE secure
[07:57] <alvanson> it's not listed in /etc/modules so I'm lost :(
[07:57] <erosgol> whats a good text editor to write HTML in?
[07:57] <nalioth> dylan_: and a lot of those guides are for server implementations
[07:57] <dylan_> nalioth, is there any really any reason to?
[07:57] <MFen> mirak: does this work with a windows client?
[07:57] <nalioth> erosgol: bluefish
[07:57] <psusi> erosgol: I like emacs
[07:57] <nalioth> dylan_: the default install of x/k/ubuntu is quite secure
[07:58] <erosgol> thanx )
[07:58] <dylan_> nalioth, how can i secure ubuntu more?
[07:58] <omerlh> Hello
[07:58] <nalioth> dylan_: idk. i've never needed to
[07:58] <MFen> dylan_: in general it's not an OS that's insecure so much as the software that's running there
[07:58] <Weiss> alvanson: the Quick and Nasty way would be to rename the module itself
[07:58] <trappist> dylan_: set up firewalls, disable password authentication in ssh, stop unneeded daemons for starters
[07:59] <MFen> dylan_: you want to limit your exposure to buggy, insecure software.  you do that by shutting down as much unnecessary software as possible :)
[07:59] <MFen> dylan_: there's also a few kernel things you can do etc.
[07:59] <omerlh> I want connected my lap top to T.V. I installed atitvout, and it work but I have problem with vbe. What can I do?
[07:59] <dylan_> MFen, but its not practical?
[07:59] <MFen> dylan_: it's very practical.  taking a few precautions will make any system a lot more secure
[08:00] <nalioth> dylan_: most of your efforts for a default install will be wasted
[08:00] <MFen> you cna't make anything completely secure without unplugging it from the wall and turning it off. but you can make it so expensive to crack that nobody will wnat to
[08:00] <trappist> dylan_: security is almost always a tradeoff.  almost anything you do to make your box more secure will make it less usable, slower or less stable.  if security came in a bottle, microsoft would sell it.
[08:01] <alvanson> Weiss, how about the not so nasty way? ;)
[08:02] <erosgol> is there an rpm for bluefish ubuntu dist?
[08:02] <Seveas> erosgol, ubuntu does not use rpm
[08:03] <Seveas> erosgol, apt-get install bluefish
[08:03] <erosgol> really?
[08:03] <synmoo> Is there a reason the KDE packages aren't showing up in synaptic? I reloaded the package information.
[08:03] <olicat> hi all. can i install ubuntu on a machine with no cdrom over the local network?
[08:03] <Unity> hey, how come when i do rm *~ and then it asks me to confirm that i want to delete something, and then i hit y, it doesn't desete?
[08:03] <kbrooks> Hey
[08:03] <DRK13> soup
[08:03] <kbrooks> Can anyone help me?
[08:03] <olicat> ie, tell the client to boot using the cd in another local machine?
[08:03] <spiregrain> kbrooks- don't know yet
[08:03] <Unity> and when i do sudo apt-get install whatever, and it asks me something, and i press y, it aborts?
[08:04] <Kovecses> !w32codecs
[08:04] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:04] <spiregrain> Unity - could be the file dosen' belong to you
[08:04] <spiregrain> try with "sudo rm *~"
[08:04] <mirak> crap I did a rm -fr /dev
[08:04] <Weiss> alvanson: build a new kernel and module set with the agpgart stuff firmly turned off... i don't know of a way to do it via modules.conf et. al., but there could well be..
[08:04] <kbrooks> See, I have this microsioft ps/2 mouse. When plugged in, and I move the mouse, IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL
[08:04] <Unity> spiregrain, they all belong to me and that doesn't explain why apt-get aborts
[08:05] <trappist> alvanson: you could always delete the module
[08:05] <darkuser> hello
[08:05] <nalioth> kbrooks: you know how it works in here, ask your question
[08:05] <Kovecses> kbrooks, do other mouses work?
[08:05] <darkuser> helloooooo
[08:05] <trappist> kbrooks: try `modprobe psmouse`
[08:06] <Weiss> alvanson: but if just delete the module or move it to somewhere it can't be found, then run "depmod", you'll end up with the same Nice solution..
[08:06] <darkuser> you mast
[08:06] <mirak> I did a mount --bind /dev somethingelse/dev
[08:06] <MFen> mirak: little snag. the wiki there gave me something to put in sources.list for the freenx package for breezy. however that archive isn't responding.
[08:06] <mirak> how to unmount it ?
[08:06] <erosgol> heh no wonder y it doesent use yast
[08:06] <darkuser> kesssss
[08:06] <darkuser> hyarr
[08:06] <MFen> nm, found the faster mirror
[08:06] <mirak> MFen: don't know
[08:07] <spiregrain> Unity- dunno then
[08:08] <jspam> ok. im having some difficulty getting ubuntu running on my external hdd. it boots and starts to load the kernel but then says: ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[08:08] <kbrooks> trappist, no
[08:08] <kbrooks> Kovecses, yes
[08:08] <Kovecses> kbrooks, so other mouses work???
[08:08] <delltony> hi can someone kindly help me in resizing my linux partition so i can give a few gigs too windows? i can't seem to do it in parition magic cause it says the whole linux partition of 46 gig is used which is far from true. and I tried gparted but it appears you can't resize an active partition . :( i'm lost
[08:08] <nalioth> delltony: do it from a LiveCD
[08:09] <Kovecses> livecds are best
[08:09] <kbrooks> Kovecses, yes
[08:09] <trappist> delltony: you need to umount the partition.  if you can't because it's your root partition or something you'll need to do it from like a livcd or rescue disk.
[08:10] <MFen> argh!
[08:10] <kbrooks> Kovecses, well? i have to spend time with my sister
[08:10] <MFen> this wiki doesn't say how to *run* the server portion :)
[08:10] <kbrooks> hello?
[08:10] <jspam> please pm me if any of you know how i can get /dev/sda1 to show up during the boot. don't want to get it lost in the chat if im not looking. :)
[08:11] <MFen> does anyone here use freenx? it's pretty opaque
[08:11] <trappist> jspam: breezy? dapper?
[08:11] <mad_phoenix> MFen: ya, im trying to set up freenx right now as well
[08:11] <pawjan> #palm
[08:12] <MFen> mad_phoenix: what are you looking at for reference?
[08:12] <MFen> the wiki doesn't say how to run a server, just how to install one
[08:13] <mad_phoenix> MFen: the wiki page, hang on i'll grab the link
[08:13] <kbrooks> Kovecses, well, i was waiting
[08:13] <mad_phoenix> MFen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:13] <MFen> mad_phoenix: yeah, i'm already looking at that
[08:13] <kbrooks> Kovecses, me? stupid? how?
[08:13] <MFen> i have freenx and its dependencies installed on the server, and the windows client is installed
[08:14] <MFen> but no hint as to how to make the server do anything useful
[08:14] <nalioth> Kovecses: let's be civil please.
[08:14] <nalioth> kbrooks: you too. civility.
[08:14] <kbrooks> k
[08:14] <kbrooks> brb
[08:14] <Kovecses> hey hes the one who shot me .... lol
[08:14] <kbrooks> e-mail: cmpfixer@hotmail.com
[08:14] <jeanmarc_> jjjjjgjgjghggggggg
[08:14] <kbrooks> Kovecses, dude
[08:15] <kbrooks> Kovecses, i'm in a bind
[08:15] <zelevw> Hi guys...I just installed 3ddesktop and i'd like to use it...i've done a search (find / -name 3ddesktop) and cannot find an executable...can anyone lend me a hand?  thanks in advance!
[08:16] <Kovecses> kbrooks, about your mouse? ... if other ps/2 mouses are working .. i dont know how or if you can get that microsft one to work
[08:16] <MFen> zelevw: i don't know the specific answer, but what i generally do is 'dpkg -L 3ddesktop | grep bin'
[08:16] <MFen> and, if necessary, 'man' on the things that turns up
[08:16] <zelevw> MFen: thank you
[08:16] <mad_phoenix> MFen: what's the problem you're having?
[08:17] <MFen> mad_phoenix: there's nothing in init.d for freenx, and nxserver wants some option that i can't guess
[08:17] <MFen> and there's no man page
[08:17] <zelevw> MFen: thanks again...that worked...brilliant!
[08:17] <MFen> zelevw: yw
[08:18] <MFen> zelevw: in some cases you want dpkg -L | grep init.d
[08:18] <zelevw> MFen: Kewl
[08:18] <mad_phoenix> MFen: what option?  i just got mine to work, so i can tell you what i have
[08:18] <JRlinux> OK, I want to edit grub and replace-- the one that the auto upgrade damaged.  I am in Ubuntu now, but how do I get the permission to do that?
[08:18] <MFen> mad_phoenix: please do :)
[08:18] <MFen> just tell me how you ran it for starters
[08:20] <ilba7r> jrlinux sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:20] <mad_phoenix> MFen: what is the option that you don't know what to choose?
[08:20] <JRlinux> ok ilba7r .  Thanks.
[08:20] <MFen> mad_phoenix: try running "nxserver"
[08:21] <e-fonz> .
[08:21] <MFen> mad_phoenix: i don't know how to start this thing.. at all.  i don't even know if i found the right executable.  there's nothing in init.d.  there's nothing on the wiki that says what to do, except it's somehow related to ssh
[08:22] <mad_phoenix> MFen: when you installed it, did it show you a blue ncurses screen and ask you what kind of authentication you wanted?
[08:22] <MFen> yeah, and i picked the default like the wiki said
[08:22] <Kovecses> !dapper
[08:22] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:22] <Kovecses> i thought the next version was flight?
[08:22] <MFen> mad_phoenix: shouldn't there be some sort of daemon running?
[08:22] <mad_phoenix> MFen: ya i mean i don't have any init.d entries for it either, but it's running...i think it may run on top of the ssh service
[08:23] <mad_phoenix> MFen: try using nxclient and connecting to your own machine
[08:23] <mad_phoenix> like, do the /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[08:23] <kakei> does any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?
[08:23] <mad_phoenix> and connect to localhost
[08:24] <MFen> mad_phoenix: the client's running on windows, so i'm trying that
[08:24] <Kovecses> !backports
[08:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:24] <eno> how do I go to firefox 1.5?
[08:24] <Kovecses> download it
[08:24] <mad_phoenix> MFen: but you can at least try to localize the problem, because if you can connect to your nxserver locally you know it's up
[08:24] <eno> with apt-get?
[08:25] <Kovecses> just get it from the website
[08:25] <Unity> does old xbox use tcp to communicate over a network?
[08:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eno about firefox15
[08:25] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  it may turn out to be a problem with your ssh server, or your settings in the windows client...it took me a bunch of tries to find the right settings on the windows nx client
[08:26] <eno> thanks NALIOTH!
[08:26] <MFen> mad_phoenix: well something seems to be happening
[08:26] <kbrooks> Kovecses,
[08:26] <e-fonz> any1 have experience with par2 on ubuntu?
[08:26] <MFen> "setting up the x environment"
[08:26] <kbrooks> flight cds
[08:26] <kbrooks> not
[08:26] <kbrooks> "ubuntu flight"
[08:26] <MFen> mad_phoenix: does this part normally take forever?
[08:26] <nalioth> e-fonz: yes ask your question
[08:26] <Kovecses> kbrooks, ive been on gentoo for too long
[08:27] <marc_> Can someone help me with the Cedega mouse problem (with world of warcraft).  I have been trying the workaround but they're not working
[08:27] <mad_phoenix> MFen: it depends...i don't know, it's all kind of flaky, i just played with options in the client and it started working
[08:27] <kbrooks> Can someone help me, please?
[08:27] <crimsun> marc_: are you using 5.0.3?
[08:27] <JRlinux> Ah, my Mepis is back... Beware of upgrades!  (Still have the Ubuntu, and still learning about it.)
[08:27] <MFen> mad_phoenix: well it's just sitting here "setting up"
[08:27] <e-fonz> OK, i installed par2 on my ubuntu-linux......can't see it in a menu though. I am a complete noob at LINUX
[08:28] <nalioth> e-fonz: it is a console only program
[08:28] <Kovecses> e-fonz, whats par2?
[08:28] <crimsun> Kovecses: apt-cache show par2
[08:28] <kbrooks> See, I have this microsoft ps/2 mouse. When I plug it in, upon moving of the mouse, the cursor does not move
[08:28] <dbernar1> I am trying to set up a windows domain using samba, and I am unable to add computers to the domain. Is anyone knowledgeable about this?
[08:28] <mad_phoenix> MFen: so you're looking at a black screen, you already got past authentication and everything?
[08:28] <Kovecses> well i could have done that in the first place... i thought maybe somebody could just tell me
[08:28] <MrJangles> hello
[08:28] <e-fonz> par2 repairs corrupted files you downloaded with bittorrent or usenet
[08:29] <MFen> mad_phoenix: it asked for a password, which i put in
[08:29] <MFen> it's not a black screen, i'm running the windows client
[08:29] <crimsun> kbrooks: do you have a ps/2 -> usb adapter?
[08:29] <MrJangles> looking for some help... i updgraded to breeze, and i'm getting an X server error
[08:29] <MFen> so there's a little gui dialog with an animation playing and it says it's setting up the x environment
[08:29] <MFen> it's been doing that for a few minutes now
[08:29] <kbrooks> crimsun, other  ps/2 mouses work.
[08:30] <crimsun> kbrooks: have you confirmed that the hardware (mouse) itself is functional?
[08:30] <psusi> good lord!
[08:30] <MFen> mad_phoenix: when you're using it, does anything show on the server up when you do ps axw | grep nx ?
[08:30] <kbrooks> crimsun, how?
[08:30] <MFen> because i have nothing
[08:30] <e-fonz> oops, meesed up a bit
[08:30] <crimsun> kbrooks: another computer and/or another OS
[08:30] <kenkku> I'm making a shell script and I need to insert my password there for it to work (after sudo so I don't have to do it myself), any way to make it not watchable?
[08:30] <Kovecses> lol
[08:31] <Kovecses> psusi, thats impressive
[08:31] <kbrooks> crimsun, i only use the cli on arch. don't want to install gpm
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> MFen: no, nothing shows up
[08:31] <MFen> mad_phoenix: weird
[08:31] <MFen> what the heck is it supposedly talking to then?
[08:31] <trappist> 7zip?
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  let me tell you what client options im using...i've got desktop set to unix, gnome, under the advanced tab i've got ssl encryption enabled...
[08:31] <Kovecses> brb
[08:31] <crimsun> kbrooks: that doesn't preclude testing on other machines.
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  i guess that's about it
[08:32] <MFen> ok
[08:32] <MFen> i checked the ssl flag
[08:32] <e-fonz> nalioth, how can i select you to talk to you?
[08:32] <jspam> !nickserv
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  are you using openssh?
[08:32] <ubotu> jspam: What?
[08:32] <e-fonz> lol
[08:32] <crimsun> trappist: the p7zip package
[08:32] <MFen> mad_phoenix: openssh is installed
[08:32] <nalioth> e-fonz: you can join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> MFen: you might want to confirm that you can connect to your ssh server from windows
[08:32] <kbrooks> crimsun, i dont have other machines. the only other computer is not owned by me, and its locked by a bios password
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> using telnet or something
[08:33] <MFen> ok, the only change i needed to make was the ssl check, and i'm getting the same thing. "setting up the x environment lalala"
[08:33] <jspam> was trying to register a nick so i could send a pm to someone who asked me what version of ubuntu i was using.
[08:33] <crimsun> kbrooks: makes troubleshooting difficult, eh?
[08:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jspam about register
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> MFen: and this is local, right?
[08:33] <MFen> mad_phoenix: i can. i use it all the time. i set up freenx on the server via ssh :)
[08:33] <kbrooks> crimsun, very.
[08:33] <sara_> hello
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  how frustrating
[08:34] <MFen> mad_phoenix: however it's anyone's guess whether the freenx client is actually running an instance of ssh that was installed on my machine
[08:34] <kbrooks> crimsun, can you help still?
[08:34] <MFen> mad_phoenix: i didn't find anything that said "please install teh ssh first!!11"
[08:34] <sara_> i was installing kde multimedia package through kpackage and it automatically started removing kde components , and a bunch of key stuff, now konqueror is gone etc
[08:34] <MFen> mad_phoenix: that suggests freenx/windows comes with an ssh client
[08:35] <eno> I will wait for the new firefox to show up on my updator
[08:35] <sara_> is thete anyway without reinstalling kbuntu i can save my system?
[08:35] <MFen> mad_phoenix: did you have to restart sshd?
[08:35] <dbernar1> sara_: install kubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <dbernar1> I am trying to set up a windows domain using samba, and I am unable to add computers to the domain. Is anyone knowledgeable about this?
[08:35] <sara_> ok
[08:35] <ajs`> hey, how stable is dapper?
[08:35] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  i actually restarted the machine, but logging out/in would probably accomplish the same
[08:35] <sara_> it took adept also
[08:35] <MFen> logging out wouldnt' restart sshd
[08:36] <kbrooks> sara_, be serious
[08:36] <kbrooks> sara_, do you actually *think* it did that?
[08:36] <MFen> crap. this is frustrating. i can't even tell *if* it's communicating with the server
[08:36] <sara_> it removed sevral files
[08:36] <Kovecses> does anybody know a way to constantly set dma on ... for a cdrom drive?
[08:36] <sara_> apollon, adept, konqueror
[08:36] <Kovecses> gnome 2.12 is pretty sexy
[08:36] <mycket> hello, i want to (cross-)compile programs for m68k. could not find a gcc-m68k package. Is there a gcc for other architectures?
[08:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kovecses about dma
[08:36] <darkuser> h
[08:37] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  yes i agree, i have no idea really how this protocol works without any daemons/services running
[08:37] <Kovecses> nalioth, thanks
[08:37] <sara_> is there a deb package for kbuntu-desktop?
[08:37] <nalioth> mycket: search at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <nalioth> sara_: there is. but it's a meta-pkg
[08:38] <Kovecses> sara_, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <ajs`> how many of you use the dapper release?
[08:38] <darkuser> hello grls
[08:38] <darkuser> and guys
[08:39] <Fade> is there a howto on how to keep the nice bootup sequence when running with nvidia-kernel accelerated X server?
[08:39] <MFen> mad_phoenix: i'm trying to do this through openvpn. i think i'll try it directly on a different machine
[08:39] <Kovecses> ajs`, i stick with stable
[08:39] <nalioth> darkuser: this is a help channel, not a chat channel, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <trappist> Fade: 'nice bootup sequence'?
[08:39] <Fade> the nvidia framebuffer module conflicts with nvidia's binary agp module.
[08:39] <Kovecses> they have alot of ubuntu stuff on gnome-look.org
[08:39] <mycket> nalioth, i've already been there. theres only for MC 68HCxx (forgot ist) and PDA. I need something for 68000 family
[08:39] <Fade> yeah, with the good looking 'ubuntu' graphic, and the terminal messages in the window below it.
[08:39] <ajs`> yeah, its tempting to upgrade though
[08:39] <mad_phoenix> MFen: ya, i think you may need a special package that provides tunnelling support if you're going to use vpn
[08:40] <mad_phoenix> MFen: one of the people who keep apt-get repos had some packages for tunneling
[08:40] <ara> Hi , i'm pertty new to linux can someone help me please?
[08:40] <Mabus06> with what, ara?
[08:40] <nalioth> ara: if you ask a question
[08:40] <MFen> mad_phoenix: well one thing at a time. i'll see if i can get it connected first
[08:40] <Kovecses> ara, ill help
[08:40] <trappist> Fade: oh, that.  I don't know.  I have noticed that nvidia's framebuffer module sucks pretty bad, and causes hard lockup sometimes when switching vc's.
[08:40] <mad_phoenix> right on
[08:40] <sara_> when i go to reinstall any of the packages kpackage removed, i get a lot of dependency errors
[08:40] <Mabus06> Kovecses, don't sign yourself up for something that may be bigger than you can chew. ;-)
[08:41] <ara> how can i log in as root?
[08:41] <Mabus06> You don't need to
[08:41] <Kovecses> Mabus06, im no noob
[08:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ara about root
[08:41] <Fade> does the default X setup just use the vesa framebuffer?
[08:41] <crimsun> Fade: usplash doesn't use rivafb
[08:41] <Mabus06> !sudo
[08:41] <nalioth> Fade: it does not.
[08:41] <Fade> how does it work?
[08:41] <Mabus06> Kovecses, doesn't matter... her problem may be complex.
[08:41] <crimsun> Fade: uplash or the default X setup?
[08:42] <koro> please, i need help :(
[08:42] <Fade> well, usplash.
[08:42] <Mabus06> Kovecses, if you can solve *any* problem, I have a few questions. ;-)
[08:42] <crimsun> Fade: it uses vga16fb
[08:42] <ara> i'm trying to install the yahoo msngr, it tells me that i need to log in as root
[08:42] <Mabus06> Do "sudo" before the install command
[08:42] <nalioth> ara: gaim doesnt work for you?
[08:42] <Mabus06> sudo does a command as root
[08:42] <koro> I chose the language to be english in ubuntu (breezy badger) but i want to be able to type things in spanish
[08:42] <ara> gaim?
[08:42] <Fade> I wonder if the vga16fb conflicts with the nvidia accelerated binary driver.
[08:42] <ara> what's that?
[08:42] <koro> (i chose my spanish keyboard)
[08:42] <Fade> thanks for the pointer. :)
[08:43] <sara_> ara try amsn for linux or kopete
[08:43] <nalioth> ara: gaim is a chat client that accesses yahoo, msn, icq and others
[08:43] <koro> but apparently it doesnt recognize properly the spanish characters like accents
[08:43] <crimsun> Fade: it doesn't
[08:43] <Mabus06> gaim uses yahoo, msn, and more, ara
[08:43] <koro> what can i do about it?
[08:43] <Fade> crimsun -- wicked. thanks.
[08:43] <Mabus06> ara, gaim is installed default on ubuntu... look under applications > internet
[08:43] <ara> ok , wait
[08:43] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[08:43] <Mabus06> happy holidays
[08:43] <Kovecses> i have no sound in totem?
[08:43] <dbcalo> installed ubuntu breezy badger on a external hdd. getting /dev/sda1 does not exist after the kernel starts to boot. anyone know how to fix this? (was previosly suing the nick 'jspam')
[08:44] <Mabus06> Kovecses, killall esd then try again
[08:44] <Fade> hrmn.. speaking of nvidia-kernel-source... which pool is it in?
[08:44] <trappist> dbcalo: usb hard drive?
[08:44] <dbcalo> yes
[08:44] <crimsun> Fade: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:44] <NoWhereMan> many gtk apps give me this  error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6231 does anybody know how to fix it?
[08:44] <sara_> if i redownload the kbuntu cd  is there anyway to save my files and rescue my kde files that kapackage removed?
[08:44] <dbcalo> shows up as a regular hdd in the bios.
[08:45] <trappist> dbcalo: you're going to need to hack your initrd to load sd_mod, usb-storage and things like that.  it's not going to work out of the box.
[08:45] <conrad_> k3b doesn't support avi files?
[08:45] <Kovecses> conrad_, what do you mean?
[08:45] <Kovecses> conrad_, you can burn them
[08:45] <koro> Please, how could I make my ubuntu work with spanish characters?
[08:45] <UbuntuNewbie> I am downoading the Ubuntu CD ISO.  I want to install as a dual boot under Windows XP.  I have read the WindowsDualBootHowTo at the wiki.  Is there anything else I need to know before I take the plunge and install?
[08:45] <trappist> dbcalo: if it looks like a regular hdd in the bios, does it show up in linux as a regular ide hard drive?
[08:45] <conrad_> tried to burn some avi files that i downloaded from an ftp site
[08:45] <Xenguy> Hi - I am looking for nVidia driver help.  I have tried the nvidia 'BinaryDriverHowto', but this causes my box to freeze-up when booting into X.  I was told that I should install the 'non-free' drivers if I want 3D, so I guess my first question is: should I be apt-getting nvidia DEBs, or should I be installing nvidia's "official" drivers?
[08:46] <Kovecses> UbuntuNewbie, you have windows already installed?
[08:46] <dbcalo> trappist, shows up as an scsi during the installer.
[08:46] <delltony> hi all
[08:46] <sara_> ubuntu use partition magic on the windows side than install using ubuntu cd on the remauning space.. its simple
[08:46] <trappist> Xenguy: I use nvidia's drivers, but the debs are supposed to be fine
[08:46] <UbuntuNewbie> Yes Kovecses
[08:46] <delltony> can someone help me please in resizing my linux/windows partitions
[08:46] <Kovecses> UbuntuNewbie, and you have a spare partition for ubuntu
[08:47] <conrad_> kovecses: using k3b i opened a new project and wanted to drag my avi files to burn to cd
[08:47] <delltony> i have tried gparted and even tried part magic for some reason i can not resize the linux partition says all 46 gig is used and i know it isn't
[08:47] <Xenguy> trappist: did you follow the 'BinaryDriverHowto' on the wiki?
[08:47] <conrad_> kovecses: says it only supports mpeg
[08:47] <trappist> dbcalo: the problem is that the modules necessary to mount a usb drive are on the filesystem and not in the kernel or the initrd, so it wants to mount the root filesystem to GET those modules, but of course it can't.  an alternative solution would be to build your own kernel with all that stuff built in.
[08:47] <Kovecses> conrad_, oh your trying to make a vcd
[08:47] <UbuntuNewbie> No I thought the installer would do that for me first, according to the wiki article.
[08:47] <trappist> Xenguy: no, I've been using nvidia drivers for a long time, so I just did it the way I've always done it.
[08:47] <calamari> delltony: e2fsck doesn't report any problems?
[08:48] <nalioth> delltony: did the livecd not do it?
[08:48] <ara> hey i worked , thank you
[08:48] <Kovecses> UbuntuNewbie, yeah it can... i think......
[08:48] <ara> it
[08:48] <Xenguy> trappist: can you tell me how you did it, or give hints/pointers?
[08:48] <conrad_> kovecses: yes, vcd aguess
[08:48] <dbcalo> trappist, can i build one from the command line it dumps me to?
[08:48] <nalioth> UbuntuNewbie: the installer will allow you to make some space
[08:48] <Mabus06> Is it possible to have ubuntu installed on a usb drive?
[08:48] <conrad_> kovecses: don't have dvd burner
[08:48] <calamari> delltony: sorry if that was already asked.. just came in :)
[08:49] <trappist> Xenguy: I installed the kernel headers (sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`), downloaded the drivers from nvidia's site, and said sudo sh NVIDIA*
[08:49] <Fade> heh. I'm not used to all this click'n'drool stuff. ;)
[08:49] <crimsun> dbcalo: if you're comfortable adding the necessary modules to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and then regenerating it, that's the method.
[08:49] <Kovecses> conrad_, vcd's only support mpeg... but if you want to burn just the avi.. if your dvd player supports avi just burn as data cd... or you could use tovid to convert the avi to vcd
[08:49] <delltony> ok so d i need to use the live cd
[08:49] <trappist> dbcalo: oh, goot point.  no.
[08:49] <trappist> dbcalo: but if you have another box you can build it there.
[08:49] <ara> can someone tell me what is an x-window?
[08:49] <irpyC> hello
[08:49] <delltony> see here is the deal i thought id never use windows again which i very seldom do and i gave it a small partition like 9 gig and now i have a tivo and want to use it a little more
[08:49] <UbuntuNewbie> but this is my first plunge into *nix , so I am nervous and don't quite know what to expect.
[08:49] <Kovecses> ara, are you using xchat
[08:49] <conrad_> Kovecses: tovid??
[08:50] <delltony> so i need to give it another 10 gig but can't figure out how
[08:50] <dbcalo> can i build it from a boot cd?
[08:50] <Epix> what program lets you run windows games on linux?
[08:50] <ara> yes
[08:50] <trappist> dbcalo: yes
[08:50] <nalioth> UbuntuNewbie: i've installed ubuntu on several Win machines, the resizer works well
[08:50] <crimsun> dbcalo: for instance, you can boot a live cd, chroot your HD's / fs, edit /etc/mkinitramfs/modules, and regen it
[08:50] <dbcalo> Trappist, i just happen to have knoppix 4.0 handy.
[08:50] <trappist> Epix: cedega (transgaming.com)
[08:50] <Kovecses> ara, the window around it with the border and the x ... that is an xwindow
[08:50] <delltony> i assume the only way i can do it is with a live cd
[08:50] <Kovecses> conrad_, yeah tovid is a cool app for .. converting video
[08:51] <trappist> dbcalo: installing it might be tricky
[08:51] <dbcalo> do you guys know of any guides?
[08:51] <delltony> can someone pm me detailed instructions oor something so i can write it down please :(
[08:51] <ara> i'm trying to get my VGA driver and it is asking me about the version of the x-window
[08:51] <ompaul> dbcalo, wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com
[08:51] <kakei> does any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?
[08:51] <cipher_> Hi folks, anyone have problems installing firefox 1.0.7 under kubuntu 5.10?
[08:51] <nalioth> delltony: d/l a livecd. run livecd. start gparted
[08:51] <delltony> well i ihave a live cd
[08:51] <kakei> cipher_ it crash sometimes?
[08:51] <Mabus06> Is it possible to have ubuntu installed on a usb drive?
[08:51] <Xenguy> trappist: OK, so you installed the official nvidia drivers, not the DEBs
[08:51] <cipher_> I'm getting complaints about not finding an art file, and a "find" error when I try to apt-get remove it.
[08:51] <delltony> the thing is i never understood how to get a prompt from one
[08:52] <crimsun> cipher_: it's as simple as using Adept to install the firefox package.
[08:52] <trappist> Xenguy: yes
[08:52] <cipher_> kakei: no, it seems to run OK, but the menu item hasn't been added--it seems like the install itself didn't go properly.
[08:52] <kakei> no idea
[08:52] <Epix> quake3 starts and runs fine, except my mouse is stuck in the topright corner when it starts and it *wont move*! when i kill it, I can move the mouse again. It used to work, but now it doesnt...
[08:52] <cipher_> crimsun, is that any different on the backend than apt-get?
[08:52] <Xenguy> trappist: alright, I'll have a look at that option then - tx
[08:52] <ompaul> delltony, two ways click one of which is applications accessories terminal
[08:52] <crimsun> cipher_: not really.
[08:52] <trappist> Xenguy: it's easier to use the debs, though.
[08:52] <ossie> guys what distro do u reccomend apart from ubuntu?
[08:53] <cipher_> Yeah, I used apt-get install to install it, but it seems flakey.
[08:53] <trappist> ossie: lfs
[08:53] <ossie> cos im starting to think ubuntu is whack
[08:53] <conrad_> Kovecses: unfortunately, it is not in my repositories (synaptics doesn't find it)
[08:53] <UbuntuNewbie> I am also a control freak, is there any way to view all processes that run on startup.  Also, everyone is telling me that a firewall is not needed and viruses are not much of a problem with *nix, which is kinda hard to swallow but **great** if true!
[08:53] <Xenguy> trappist: I'm sure it is, but those are not working for me, as I mentioned
[08:53] <ossie> trappist, what is lfs?
[08:53] <delltony> but i thought you COULDN'T gpart a active partition
[08:53] <cipher_> UbuntuNewbie, I dunno who told you a firewall is unimportant, I don't agree.
[08:53] <delltony> and when you run the livecd it would mount the partiton would it not?
[08:53] <dbcalo> does this guide spell out what i would need to do? http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library-combined/l-fireboot.html
[08:53] <cipher_> Personally I'm lazy so I use a h/w firewall.
[08:53] <ompaul> ossie, linux from scratch but hey remember what to install when you think the rest is too hard
[08:53] <sara_> i hate kpackage
[08:54] <ossie> im getting random lockups, where i have to pull the plug
[08:54] <ossie> ompaul, what u mean ???
[08:54] <trappist> UbuntuNewbie: apt-get install bum and use bum to see startup services.  I recommend a firewall, but it's true there's not much point installing an antivirus unless you're running a mail server and want to protect windows users from them.
[08:54] <conrad_> Kovecses: as you suggest alternatively, i'll try burning it as data cd and hope my dvd player picks it up
[08:54] <delltony> and is gparted part of the breezy live cd?
[08:54] <Epix> any ideas?
[08:54] <ossie> i dont find ubuntu hard , its just unreliable and i think buggy
[08:54] <delltony> i know on horay i had to download it
[08:54] <MFen> mad_phoenix: AHA!  http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-September/002130.html
[08:54] <crimsun> dbcalo: the two-phase boot describes the basic ideas, but it's not a verbatim guide.
[08:55] <koro> Is there a way to let the language of the system be english but allow me to use spanish charset and keyboard?
[08:55] <MFen> mad_phoenix: ok *now* i have a black screen :)
[08:55] <trappist> ossie: #ubuntu is probably not the place to ask about what you should do when you decide ubuntu sucks.
[08:55] <ompaul> ossie, when you want to come back we will still be here, and your random lockups are more likely to do with an ati or some other video card
[08:55] <MFen> oh wait, here it comes
[08:55] <ilred> hi to all
[08:55] <mad_phoenix> MFen: wow what a strange bug
[08:55] <ossie> i have installed nvidia
[08:55] <Kovecses> fglrx baby
[08:55] <UbuntuNewbie> ok, Cipher....then what is the Zone Alarm equivalent of a firewall for Ubuntu...I feel like I need a translator from Windows to Linux here.
[08:55] <ossie> but i am using the suggestd drivers
[08:55] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  i don't have cygwin installed, probably why i didn't run into that problem
[08:55] <MFen> mad_phoenix: are you running a windows client too?
[08:55] <Xenguy> ossie: did you use the DEBs then?
[08:55] <mad_phoenix> yup
[08:55] <ompaul> ossie you need to luck at a page I am about to get the bot to send you
[08:55] <Kovecses> beep-media-player is pretty cool
[08:55] <dbcalo> i think i'll try building another kernel. i have a 1gb jumpdrive i can dump it to. would that make it easier?
[08:56] <ilred> i've problems with kaffeine and divx
[08:56] <ompaul> !tell ossie about nvidia
[08:56] <trappist> UbuntuNewbie: there's nothing quite like zone alarm for linux.  there's a newish project that tries pretty hard, but you're better off rethinking the way you look at firewalls.
[08:56] <ossie> i have used the ones from apt-get and the ones from autamotix
[08:56] <ilred> with gstreamer i've some error messages, with xine i've slow video
[08:56] <MFen> mad_phoenix: anyway it makes sense in hindsight.  it includes cygwin's openssh in the distribution, but since i have one on the system, it tries to use that one first, but it can't, because the path to it is hardcoded incorrectly
[08:56] <ossie> cheers for the bot  :
[08:56] <ossie> :)
[08:56] <delltony> so put in live cd let it boot up then hit terminal and hope gparted is on it? only live cds i have is warty and horay
[08:56] <ilred> i use kubuntu breezy and fglrx
[08:56] <mad_phoenix> MFen: well at least you located it
[08:57] <MFen> y
[08:57] <ompaul> ossie, that problem is due to the *nice* people in nvidia not allowing their full design spec out to the community to code good drivers, so ehh it is unfortunate but not really anything to do with ubuntu
[08:57] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  i was just able to stream a divx avi file over to my windows client, and only on an 802.11b connection too!  :)
[08:57] <UbuntuNewbie> Please explain, trappist...
[08:57] <conrad_> Hikaru79: do you play go?
[08:57] <ossie> ompaul, i had problems before i used this graphics card, i find ubntu a bit slow
[08:57] <MFen> mad_phoenix: how far apart are the client and server?
[08:57] <Xenguy> ompaul: I followed the first link, but it just locks up my box when trying to boot to X
[08:57] <ossie> not as slow as suse, but still nto as fast as XP
[08:57] <Hikaru79> conrad_, yes I do :)
[08:58] <UbuntuNewbie> what do I need to rethink?
[08:58] <Hikaru79> conrad_, I take it you do also? :) How strong are you?
[08:58] <Kovecses> ossie, nvidia?
[08:58] <mad_phoenix> well they're both university networks, but the windows box is on a lan and my linux laptop is on the wifi network....
[08:58] <conrad_> Hikaru79: hehe, only 18 kyu
[08:58] <ossie> and the hastle , dont get me wrong ive enjoyed learning all the linux stuff, but it just is a lot of hassle , cant even get my ipod to work properly
[08:58] <ompaul> Xenguy, try >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << ossie when you have all the stuff on that page done if your still having problems that command may help you also
[08:58] <MFen> so far this kicks the crap out of using the X protocol directly
[08:58] <conrad_> Hikaru79: been downloading the hikaru no go animes
[08:59] <crimsun> conrad_: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <Hikaru79> Ah =/
[08:59] <ossie> that command has saved me a few times, when ive been at the black screen
[08:59] <dbcalo> trappist, i have a 1gb jumpdrive i can dump the kernel to when building it from knoppix. would that make my life any easier?
[08:59] <Epix> Why would my mouse not work in quake3?
[08:59] <Epix> EVen when it worked!
[08:59] <Epix> before.'
[08:59] <Kovecses> ossie, linux will get better in the future
[08:59] <Xenguy> ompaul: yes, I ran that already, but still no joy -- should I try installing the official drivers from nvidia do you think?
[08:59] <ompaul> Xenguy, it is your box :) you have the link go for it
[09:00] <ompaul> and make sure you get the right drivers :)
[09:00] <crimsun> Epix: as I recall there's a DGA mouse setting you can toggle; check Google
[09:00] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  one thing that suprised me however is that my cairo-enabled clearlooks CVS theme is broken over NX
[09:00] <MFen> mad_phoenix: eh.
[09:00] <mad_phoenix> ya, it's not a big deal
[09:00] <MFen> mad_phoenix: what does having a cairo-enabled theme get you?
[09:01] <mad_phoenix> animated checkboxes and progress bars, and i noticed that the Applications Places and System menus load faster
[09:01] <mad_phoenix> just faster widgetry in general
[09:01] <mad_phoenix> because it's rendered off my graphics card using glitz
[09:01] <Xenguy> ompaul: well I would prefer to just apt-get of course - I don't understand why that has not worked, as this box is a pretty generic/on-board AMD box
[09:01] <MFen> mad_phoenix: erm... and it surprises you that that doesn't work? :)
[09:01] <dbcalo> i guess if all else fails i'll try running damn small linux from my usb drive or try installing gentoo from the minimal cd.
[09:02] <Xenguy> Kovecses: did you get nvidia DEBs to work alright?
[09:02] <mad_phoenix> MFen:  haha no, i guess not...but it does make me wonder about Gnome switching their backend to something that can't be compressed in X protocol
[09:02] <mad_phoenix> MFen: that being said, it's still very very beta
[09:02] <Kovecses> Xenguy, i dont have an Nvidia .... but i set them up for a friend without issues.... but it was a debian box
[09:02] <mad_phoenix> if you can even call it that
[09:02] <e-fonz> naliothe?
[09:02] <redvelvet> how do I get my computer to operate on the tv
[09:03] <e-fonz> -e
[09:03] <kbrooks> See, I have this microsoft ps/2 mouse. When I plug it in, upon moving of the mouse, the cursor does not move
[09:03] <conrad_> Hikaru79: do you know a good site to download the hikaru anime?
[09:03] <kbrooks> Help me.
[09:03] <Kibou> are there gonna be xorg 7 packages any time soon?
[09:03] <Xenguy> Kovecses: can you point me to any instructions, or offer any pointers/tips?
[09:03] <MFen> mad_phoenix: yeah, they might fix it then
[09:03] <kbrooks> This is very, very, very urgent
[09:03] <MFen> mad_phoenix: report a bug! :)
[09:03] <Hikaru79> conrad_, there's a link to one on http://senseis.xmp.net
[09:03] <cmatheson> !tell kbrooks about questions
[09:03] <Hikaru79> Go look there.
[09:03] <mad_phoenix> MFen: yes, its my civic duty
[09:03] <crimsun> we need to add ESR's questions FAQ
[09:03] <e-fonz> any one know (I am sure some1 does) how to open console in the right map?
[09:03] <Mabus06> can someone help me find out if one motherboard uses the same ram as my current motherboard?
[09:03] <Kovecses> kbrooks, buy a new mouse
[09:04] <Kovecses> kbrooks, not everything is compatible with linux
[09:04] <cmatheson> crimsun: yeah, it should be on topic... ubotu has it under 'questions' though
[09:04] <redvelvet> does anyone know how I can use the s-video output on my video card?  nividia
[09:04] <dbernar1> crimsun: to what?
[09:05] <dbernar1> add it to what
[09:05] <sara__> can i use the kbuntu install cd to repair a damaded kde desktop?
[09:05] <cmatheson> redvelvet: hey read the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx, i think it talks about tvout there... you have to edit your xorg.conf
[09:05] <crimsun> dbernar1: it's moot; it's already in a factoid
[09:05] <e-fonz> 05any one know (I am sure some1 does) how to open console in the right map?
[09:05] <redvelvet> thanks, cmatheson
[09:05] <dbernar1> !moot
[09:05] <ubotu> dbernar1: What?
[09:05] <dbernar1> !questions
[09:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, questions is what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading
[09:05] <dbernar1> Is that from esr?
[09:05] <sara__> like as in to reinstall kde?
[09:05] <conrad_> Hikaru79: that is dead, do you play on kgs?
[09:06] <cmatheson> dbernar1: yes, note the ~esr
[09:06] <Hikaru79> conrad_, yes. Compulsively so.
[09:06] <Unity> what command do i issue to open the same X server that opens automatically after boot?
[09:06] <dbernar1> heh
[09:06] <Mabus06> can someone help me find out if one motherboard uses the same ram as my current motherboard?
[09:06] <conrad_> hehe
[09:06] <dbernar1> See I think I added that.
[09:06] <vniki> hi all!
[09:06] <cmatheson> Unity: install a display manager like [xkg] dm
[09:06] <conrad_> Hikaru79: what is your rating?
[09:07] <crimsun> conrad_: please migrate that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Unity> cmatheson, like if i closed the X on display 0, how do i open it again in the same way?
[09:07] <Evil_Whisper> anyone here fimiliar with python?
[09:07] <Hikaru79> conrad_, I'm around 6kyu
[09:07] <Kovecses> Xenguy, im trying to recall what i did
[09:07] <MFen> Evil_Whisper: yes
[09:07] <kbrooks> Evil_Whisper, #python
[09:07] <cmatheson> Unity: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:07] <Hikaru79> Evil_Whisper, I'm sorta competent. What's up?
[09:07] <conrad_> crimsun: are we disturbing you?
[09:07] <koro> Please help. In the console, i get correct spanish characters like  but accents don't work
[09:07] <Kovecses> Xenguy, the ubuntu guide doesnt work for you
[09:07] <mirak> hi
[09:07] <crimsun> conrad_: it's offtopic
[09:07] <cmatheson> conrad_: yes, go away please
[09:07] <koro> my locale is es_AR.ISO blah blah
[09:07] <koro> what could i do?
[09:07] <e-fonz> any one know how i open console in the right directory?
[09:07] <Unity> cmatheson, now, how would i open that up on dispay 1 instead of display 0?
[09:07] <yurinachan> ^_^"
[09:07] <mirak> I am looking for a dapper deboostrap script. My hoary install doesn't have it It should be in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/
[09:07] <cmatheson> Unity: startx -- :1 i think
[09:08] <cmatheson> e-fonz: what do you mean?
[09:08] <crimsun> mirak: it would be silly for Hoary to have a debootstrap script for a flavor that doesn't exist at the time of its release.
[09:08] <Xenguy> Kovecses: so far it does not; my box just freezes going into X
[09:08] <dbcalo> is the kernel source on the breezy install cd?
[09:08] <ara> can someone tell me how can i get to command line in linux?
[09:09] <mirak> crimsun: maybe
[09:09] <binarydigit> ara: open a terminal
[09:09] <cmatheson> ara: log in...
[09:09] <conrad_> Kovecses: do i have to compile tovid myself - i don't see it in repositories
[09:09] <e-fonz> cmatheson:i need to repair a file with par2, but when i use the command it goes to the wrong directory
[09:09] <conrad_> anyone?
[09:09] <Epix> crimsun: no, the dga setting didnt help.
[09:09] <crimsun> mirak: it's fairly straightforward to dist-upgrade Hoary->Dapper
[09:09] <Xenguy> ara: or Ctrl-Alt-F3
[09:09] <mirak> crimsun: but that doesn't make no sens, to upgrade some stuffs
[09:09] <cmatheson> e-fonz: so 'cd' into the right directory
[09:09] <crimsun> mirak: come again?
[09:09] <mirak> crimsun: I don't want to dist upgrade. I did it and it failed anyway
[09:09] <dbernar1> conrad_: /msg ubotu info tovid
[09:09] <crimsun> Epix: did you consult the linuxgamers faq?
[09:10] <ossie> anyone use a psp on their ubuntu box?
[09:10] <Epix> crimsun: nope
[09:10] <Unity> cmatheson, that opens a different kind of xserver
[09:10] <mirak> crimsun: I want to do a clean install. I upgraded breezy from a copied partition
[09:10] <conrad_> dbernarlL don't get it
[09:10] <delltony> :( ok i put the live cd into the drive and booted and did like you said and went to terminal but there is no gparted as i figured there wouldn't be so how do i do this (please, help) thanks
[09:10] <mirak> crimsun: so I didn't trashed my main install
[09:10] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell conrad_ about ask the bot
[09:10] <e-fonz> cmatheson: mmmm, i am new at this....................
[09:10] <Unity> cmatheson, but thx anyway i think i can figure it out from here
[09:10] <crimsun> mirak: what precisely are you attempting to accomplish?
[09:10] <cmatheson> Unity: it's the exact same kind of xserver actually, what are you talking about?
[09:11] <cmatheson> e-fonz: cd /to/the/path/you/want
[09:11] <e-fonz> cmatheson: so the terminal does not open in the directory where i tried to open it?
[09:11] <mirak> crimsun: I have a dual boot with two linux. So I already hve two partitions. I removed ubuntu breezy 64 bits to use dapper instead. So I want to a debootstrap
[09:11] <Unity> cmatheson, it skips the login screen and goes directly to root's desktop
[09:11] <Unity> cmatheson, maybe i need to put gdm as the client app or something?
[09:11] <crimsun> mirak: wait, you _removed_ Breezy/amd64 and want to use Dapper/amd64?
[09:12] <mirak> crimsun: I want to do a bootstrap because I already have a bunch of .debs from the failed upgrade and I have a not fast adsl, so I prefer use deboostrap and use what I alrady have
[09:12] <mirak> crimsun: I want to use dapper x86
[09:12] <cmatheson> Unity: so you want a login (gdm?) on :1?
[09:12] <Unity> cmatheson, yes
[09:12] <crimsun> mirak: you tried to dist-upgrade amd64 flavors (Breezy->Dapper)?
[09:12] <mirak> crimsun: as I said I copied my breezy x86 over the old amd64 partition
[09:12] <ossie> im loosing faith , gotta pull the plug again, this time k3b wont allow me to clean reboot
[09:13] <mirak> crimsun: I tried to upgrade it to dapper but it failed because of dependencies.
[09:13] <cmatheson> Unity: ok, that's not going to be entirely trivial because gdm doesn't like two instances of itself running at the same time... i would suggest trying some gnome-specific channels
[09:13] <crimsun> mirak: if you tried to dist-upgrade amd64 flavors, you can't install those debs in your Breezy->Dapper/i386
[09:13] <mirak> crimsun: so I though I could do a clean install instead getting a headeach fixing the deps :)
[09:13] <mirak> crimsun: I erased it
[09:14] <mirak> I just need the dapper scripts. Maybe I could find them inside a deboostrap dapper package ?
[09:14] <mirak> crimsun:
[09:14] <Unity> cmatheson, ok thx
[09:14] <delltony> :(
[09:14] <crimsun> mirak: of course, just install that package (but beware of dependencies)
[09:14] <Kovecses> java-package ... i love this friggin app
[09:14] <cmatheson> Unity: good luck
[09:15] <ph8> my friends out-of-the-box ubuntu has a nice splash screen where all the sorts of configuration network interfaces... [ok]  stuff appears, mine just does it in plaintext - anyone know how to enable it?
[09:15] <mirak> crimsun:  think I will just extract it
[09:15] <dbernar1> hey, I figured out how to add a windows computer to a samba domain, just ask me if you need anything.;)
[09:15] <enkrav_> Hello, I know ubuntu does not care about Abi compatibility with other distros, but does it make an effort to assure a package built for, say 5.4 does run on later versions like 6.10 ?
[09:15] <hardbop200> hello all, I need a free ftp server that can handle a pretty decent volume - what do you suggest?  I've seen ncftp, but it is not free.
[09:15] <crimsun> enkrav_: no
[09:15] <ph8> proftpd?
[09:16] <Kovecses> enkrav, well they will have the same package built for them both
[09:16] <crimsun> enkrav_: we've had too many transitions to be able to ensure that.
[09:16] <trappist> enkrav_: changes to gcc and glibc make that infeasible
[09:16] <cmatheson> hardbop200: i like vsftpd
[09:16] <hardbop200> ph8:  I'll check it out.
[09:16] <hardbop200> cmatheson:  I've heard about vsftpd; does it perform okay?
[09:16] <Epix> crimsun: where would i find this faq?
[09:17] <cmatheson> hardbop200: hmm, i've only used it for mirroring linux repos for local installs here at work... it's been great for that... but i haven't used it for anything super high-volume
[09:17] <mirak> I have seen .udeb in the repository, that's new ? :D
[09:17] <Kovecses> crimsun, where are you from
[09:17] <Unity> cmatheson, and another thing, the second gnome desktop doesn't have the same widget theme
[09:17] <crimsun> Epix: search for "linux game icculus faq"
[09:17] <hardbop200> cmatheson:  well, "high volume" for me would be 6k a second on an internal network, but *constant*
[09:17] <crimsun> Kovecses: SE USA, why?
[09:18] <Kovecses> crimsun, are you a dev?
[09:18] <crimsun> Kovecses: I'm a MOTU
[09:18] <Kovecses> crimsun, whats that?
[09:18] <crimsun> (we maintain the universe & multiverse packages)
[09:18] <trappist> master of the universe
[09:18] <cmatheson> Unity: yeah that's going to be sticky... gdm reads it's theme and stuff from /etc/gdm/* iirc, but there isn't any way of specifying alternate config files afaik
[09:18] <cmatheson> hardbop200: i don't think that should be a problem
[09:18] <ph8> my friends out-of-the-box ubuntu has a nice splash screen where all the sorts of configuration network interfaces... [ok]  stuff appears, mine just does it in plaintext - anyone know how to enable it?
[09:18] <hardbop200> cmatheson:  thanks for the suggestion, I'll definately try it out.
[09:19] <ompaul> ph8, what version are you using?
[09:19] <Kovecses> crimsun, well i appreciate your work... thank you
[09:19] <ph8> latest breezy
[09:19] <crimsun> Kovecses: everyone has a hand it in, not the least of it all of us as users
[09:19] <delltony> anyone know if there is a tivo desktop for linux ?
[09:19] <cmatheson> crimsun: so i sorta want to get involved w/ this whole MOTU business but everytime i start looking into it i'm never sure what to work on... is there like a definite list of tasks that need doing or something?
[09:19] <trappist> delltony: mythtv
[09:20] <delltony> oh really?
[09:20] <delltony> thanks
[09:20] <ompaul> ph8, it should just work in that case - have you done something funny like change the way the network connects?
[09:20] <crimsun> cmatheson: wiki/MOTU is a decent starting point. Currently we're working on merges from Sid
[09:20] <trappist> delltony: it's not tivo, which is proprietary, but it serves a similar purpose
[09:20] <ph8> it's not just the network interfaces line
[09:20] <ph8> i mean all the startup junk
[09:20] <hunger> Any grub profi here? I can't manage to install it into my bootsector.
[09:20] <ph8> * checking disk partition * starting samba things like that
[09:20] <delltony> as long as i can transfer my stuff over thats all i want
[09:20] <ompaul> ph8, did you upgrade from 5.04 or something?
[09:20] <crimsun> cmatheson: #ubuntu-motu is the place to ask.
[09:20] <ph8> it's about 40+ items down the screen
[09:20] <delltony> i appreciate it
[09:20] <ph8> yes i've upgraded from hoary
[09:20] <trappist> hunger: is your boot partition xfs?
[09:21] <hunger> trappist: Nope. It is mounted on /mnt/boot with /boot being a symlink into that.
[09:21] <ompaul> ph8, it is there at the start of the boot?
[09:21] <olarilole> hi there
[09:21] <Unity> cmatheson, sry, yet another related question, when i specify a config file using -config special.conf, startx complains that it couldn't move the old log file in /var/logs and then dies
[09:21] <cmatheson> crimsun: cool, thanks
[09:21] <olarilole> does anyone manage to control the wireless lan LED on an asus A6 or alike under ubuntu?
[09:21] <trappist> hunger: are you doing this in a chroot?
[09:22] <olarilole> the one for the mail notification is easy to handle
[09:22] <visik7> why ubuntu set /dev/hda1 (an ntfs partition) unradable by the user ?
[09:22] <cmatheson> Unity: hmm, i've never had this problem... does it tell you which log file it can't move?
[09:22] <hunger> trappist: Nope.
[09:22] <crimsun> visik7: mount it with umask=022
[09:22] <olarilole> the one for the wireless should handle pretty much in the same way
[09:22] <olarilole> but it doesn't
[09:22] <trappist> hunger: so, what happens when you try
[09:22] <hunger> trappist: I need to share one partition between several distros.
[09:22] <cmatheson> hunger: which partition?
[09:22] <hunger> trappist: grub-install fails since /boot is a symlink
[09:23] <hunger> cmatheson: The boot partition.
[09:23] <Unity> killed the wrong X...
[09:23] <olarilole> LEDs on an asus laptop
[09:23] <olarilole> anyone?
[09:23] <ossie> anyone reccommend a tool link system restore on xp, so that i can take a snapshot of my current configureation?
[09:23] <crimsun> ossie: norton ghost
[09:23] <Mabus06> XP, ossie? Try another channell.
[09:23] <hunger> trappist: Setup in the grub shell fails as well (I think I am doing something wrong there).
[09:23] <olarilole> have  cool script for the email one but can't make the wireless one work
[09:23] <Mabus06> Like, oh, I dunno... #xp
[09:23] <ossie> cheers crimsun
[09:24] <cmatheson> hunger: i don't *think* that would be a problem, although i'v never tried... i usually just let each distro hadnle their own /boot
[09:24] <delltony> trappist, which conf should i use if i just have a home network and nly wanting to use it like tivo desktop?
[09:24] <sureshot> how does one tell if gcc is installed on ubuntu gnome
[09:24] <koro> I have problems with my spanish keyboard, in console it shows the characters correctly but when i try to type accents it doesn't work
[09:24] <koro> any ideas how to fix that?
[09:24] <cmatheson> sureshot: you could try running 'gcc' and see if it works
[09:24] <hunger> cmatheson: The only problem I see so far is that I can not get grub to install properly.
[09:24] <trappist> hunger: have you tried --root-directory=/mnt/boot
[09:24] <sureshot> duh
[09:24] <mad_phoenix> sureshot: open a terminal and type gcc, if it's a recognized command then you have it
[09:24] <crimsun> sureshot: it's not installed by default. You probably want the 'build-essential' package.
[09:24] <sureshot> thanks
[09:24] <ph8> ompaul: Yes, but there's no nice screen around it
[09:24] <mad_phoenix> sureshot: otherwise sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:24] <Unity> cmatheson, /var/log/Xorg.0.log to /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, i assume because the currently running X is holding onto that file
[09:24] <cmatheson> hunger: well you should only need grub on one of the partitions right?
[09:24] <Kovecses> sureshot, apt-get install build-essential
[09:24] <trappist> delltony: I dunno, I haven't used mythtv in a long time
[09:24] <sureshot> newbie as you can tell
[09:24] <hunger> cmatheson: I'd use one boot partition for each linux, too, but on my laptop there is just not enough partitions to go around:-)
[09:25] <hunger> cmatheson: Yes.
[09:25] <Kovecses> sureshot, what do you need gcc for?
[09:25] <cmatheson> hunger: oooh, yeah, try sharing them that would be interesting... just don't let each distro's install blow away the other distros files
[09:25] <hunger> cmatheson: I want ubuntu to "manage" grub. Unfortunately I can not get it grub installed from ubuntu with /boot being a symlink:-(
[09:26] <hunger> cmatheson: That is why I mounted the boot partition on /mnt/boot.
[09:26] <ompaul> ph8, I upgraded a couple of the boxes here and I got the new artwork along the way, pop the contents of your  /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:26] <koro> alguien habla espanol?
[09:26] <ompaul> !es
[09:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:26] <ossie> i wish i could show u guys how my computer is behaving
[09:26] <hunger> cmatheson: /boot is a symlink into that partition (like /mnt/boot/ubuntu)
[09:26] <sureshot> trying to run gampas it aborts on run
[09:26] <cmatheson> hunger: hmm, that is trouble.. it doesn't like that huh?
[09:26] <hunger> cmatheson: Exactly.
[09:26] <hunger> cmatheson: So far I thought I had had a pretty good idea;-)
[09:26] <trappist> ossie: random lockups are almost always hardware issues, usually heat-related.
[09:27] <ossie> cant even copy a file to my psp, it just hangs half way threw
[09:27] <ossie> its not just the lockups
[09:27] <ossie> nothing seems to work correctly
[09:27] <cmatheson> hunger: i'm not familiar enough w/ how the install works... but what happens if you just mount your boot partition on /boot instead of /mnt/boot and then symlinking it?
[09:27] <Kovecses> mandriva makes me puke
[09:27] <trappist> ossie: when something like that happens, run 'dmesg' and see if there's anything relevant at the end
[09:27] <veriz> hello :)
[09:27] <Unity> does anyone know how to change the welcome screen's language back to default (english usa)?
[09:27] <trappist> Kovecses: no distro-bashing please
[09:27] <Epix> crimsun: nothing on that FAQ that could help.
[09:28] <Kovecses> hello veriz
[09:28] <ph8> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6235
[09:28] <cmatheson> Unity: hmm, not sure, it works for me
[09:28] <ph8> ompaul ^
[09:28] <Kovecses> trappist, sorry
[09:28] <ph8> obviously that cdrom shouldn't be there, how odd
[09:28] <ompaul> ph8, on it already :-)
[09:28] <Unity> cmatheson, ok thx
[09:28] <hunger> cmatheson: Then it complains about my LVM root partition not having a proper bios mapping. Might only be a warning though.
[09:29] <sureshot> kocesces did you get me post i am using gambas trying to get it to run a simple little program
[09:29] <cmatheson> hunger: yeah, i haven't played around w/ lvm yet, so i'm not too clear on that
[09:29] <ompaul> ph8, as you say, put a # infront of your friend and mine mr CDROM and do your dist upgrade thing
[09:29] <ompaul> ph8, seen the note from the bot :-)
[09:29] <Kovecses> can anybody help me with bug #15634 ... or at least tell me if it is dangerous
[09:30] <olarilole> koro: setxkblayout is the solution for all kbd probs
[09:30] <ph8> nothing upgraded
[09:30] <hunger> cmatheson: You should! LVM is the coolest thing since they invented sliced bread.
[09:30] <ph8> i have a feeling the cdrom was a late addition
[09:30] <Kovecses> what makes lvm better?
[09:30] <olarilole> koro: i had the same prob before (not spanish kbd though)
[09:30] <ompaul> ph8, like it is after the breezy days?
[09:30] <cmatheson> hunger: haha, yeah, it's on my todo list for my next install... it sounds way hot (i started getting really interested in it when i started playing around w/ xen)
[09:30] <ompaul> ph8, how could that have happened
[09:31] <olarilole> koro: KORO!!! sorry
[09:31] <delltony> trappist, hope you don't mind me asking this question since i have asked it before today wth no real luck do you have experience resizing partition in linux? i have a live cd but obviously i don't know what i'm doinig cause i booted it went to terminal and went to gparted but gparted is not there so i have no idea how to resize
[09:31] <olarilole> it's setxkbmap
[09:31] <hunger> cmatheson: I had to switch the internal HD of my laptop recently... It was a matter of a couple of commands to move everything to an USB disk (while I keept working on the laptop!).
[09:31] <Xenguy> How can I verify whether I am running a 386 or else a 686 kernel (default breezy  install) ?
[09:31] <hunger> cmatheson: You got Xen working?
[09:31] <Unity> cmatheson, ok i sorta solved it. it works as root. thx for your help
[09:31] <mjr> Xenguy, uname -a
[09:31] <Kovecses> Xenguy, uname -r
[09:31] <Epix> crimsun: any more ideas?
[09:31] <mjr> Xenguy, by default you'll have 386, tho
[09:31] <Kovecses> Xenguy, or -a
[09:31] <olarilole> try something like $ setxkbmap -layout 'es'
[09:32] <Kovecses> brb
[09:32] <cmatheson> hunger: yeah, but it was on a debian box
[09:32] <olarilole> koor: or even  $ setxkbmap -layout 'es' -type 'pc105'
[09:32] <Xenguy> Kovecses mjr OK, so uname -r gives: 2.6.12-9-386
[09:32] <cmatheson> Unity: ok cool, hope you can get that all going
[09:33] <Xenguy> mjr: yes, as I suspected, this is 386 then
[09:33] <mad_phoenix> is there a big difference between the 386 and 686 kernels/
[09:33] <mad_phoenix> ?
[09:33] <crimsun> Epix: not off the top of my head, no
[09:33] <cmatheson> mad_phoenix: i haven't ever really been able to *notice* a difference, but if anything needs to be optimized for your arch, it is probably the kernel
[09:33] <ossie> i found that 686 was a lot better with my hyperthreading cpu
[09:33] <pashaw> mad_phoenix,   most people coiuldnt tell the different
[09:34] <hunger> cmatheson: I'm fighting on getting a xen kernel that is as close to the ubuntu one as possible... but the linux repository of Xen is not really well maintained:-(
[09:34] <Epix> crimsun: reboot?
[09:34] <mad_phoenix> thats what i figured, i dont think i'd notice on my p4-mobile
[09:34] <ph8> ompaul: Not sure, possibly when i put an ubuntu livecd in there
[09:34] <ph8> i don't remember why tbh
[09:34] <ph8> but it's gone now
[09:34] <paolob> Hi all
[09:34] <ph8> And i still have no pretty load screen
[09:34] <cmatheson> hunger: yeah, it's a mess... we're having problems w/ that at work here too as well (i play w/ it on a debian box, but our production has to be mandrake :( .. getting the right kernel can be a struggle)
[09:34] <ph8> I can customise grub fine
[09:34] <ph8> i'm running 2.6.12-9 if that makes any difference
[09:35] <ompaul> ph8, does not make sense - apt-get update << first then >>  apt-get distupgrade and see if you get anything
[09:35] <ph8> and its' just plain between grub and gdm starting
[09:35] <gerald> how do I make my windows partition (sda3) to be read by non super user?
[09:35] <ph8> i'm done that
[09:35] <ph8> i'm already running breezy
[09:35] <Kovecses> gerald, add user to fstab
[09:35] <trappist> that's gotta be the single most FAQ in here
[09:36] <ompaul> ph8, have you done it today?
[09:36] <Epix> crimsun: reinstall?
[09:36] <ph8> no, ages ago
[09:36] <ph8> this is just something that's been bothering me
[09:36] <ompaul> ph8, okay well lets do it now
[09:36] <mcjerry> gerald what dir is the widows part?
[09:36] <ph8> do what?
[09:36] <ompaul> ph8,  apt-get update << first then >>  apt-get distupgrade
[09:36] <ph8> i've done that today
[09:36] <ossie> this is soooo fast, only takes an eternity to copy 800 meg file from my scsi 7200k drive , so fast about 20 mins and im still waiting
[09:36] <gerald> in /media
[09:36] <ph8> about 5 minutes ago when you asked me before
[09:36] <Kovecses> gerald, fstab
[09:36] <conrad_> do i have to have a password to be able to offer private chat?
[09:37] <mike-e> is there an official list of repositories favored by people using ubuntu breezy?
[09:37] <mike-e> !repositories
[09:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:37] <I_Am_> help
[09:37] <Kovecses> gerald, under options.. you see how like your cdrom drive says user... do that for the windows part
[09:37] <I_Am_> how do i change a read only file
[09:37] <ossie> ive got dual xeon 2.80 ghz, 1gig of high speed ram, and my machine is running like dog doo
[09:37] <ph8> any ideas ompaul?
[09:37] <ompaul> ph8, your answer was not clear - however with this info in mind, your problem is beyond me - are you getting any errors for apt-get udpate?
[09:37] <mad_phoenix> I Am: man chmod
[09:38] <ph8> no, i updated to breezy a long time ago
[09:38] <crimsun> Epix: I doubt a reinstall will help
[09:38] <mad_phoenix> I Am: but you probably want to do sudo chmod a+rwx [filename] 
[09:38] <ph8> this is something that's been bothering me for a while
[09:38] <kyncani> Hi, i'm looking for a backup solution, as dar seems to be very long to create an incremental archive. Any suggestion ?
[09:38] <I_Am_> i need to alter my windows boot.ini and gedit only views it as a read only
[09:38] <Kovecses> gerald, does that make any sense
[09:38] <conrad_> crimsun: do i need a password to be able to request private chats?
[09:38] <mcjerry> gerald add "/dev/sda1 /media ntfs umask=0222 0 0' to your fstab where sda1 is partition 1 change if necessary then 'mount -a'
[09:38] <Tachyon> I'm trying to install an Epson Stylus CX-3800.  There's no Stylus CX-3800 driver available under the menu.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Or will another one do?
[09:38] <trappist> I_Am_: ntfs?
[09:38] <winterhawk> hey guys... I gotta say after years of running BSD (and still running it on 2 boxes) I'm running ubuntu on my laptop because it 'just works'.  Great job, guys.
[09:38] <I_Am_> yea
[09:38] <bluefrog-10> kyncani, apt-get backuppc
[09:38] <mad_phoenix> I Am: well, you're not going to necessarilly be able to write to the windows filesystem
[09:38] <ossie> sorry guys, to burst any bubbles here , but im going back to suse, this is just insane
[09:39] <paolob> Anyone knows if there is something binary available for conexant AccessRunner pci-dsl modem for ubuntu? thank you!
[09:39] <ompaul> ph8, you are missing the point, I am asking about today I don't care when you did it are there any outstanding issues that apt is highlighting also >>sudo apt-get upgrade<< may be of use
[09:39] <ossie> not much of this os works
[09:39] <trappist> I_Am_: that's as good as it's going to get.  no ntfs write support in linux
[09:39] <Kovecses> ossie, whats the problem?
[09:39] <I_Am_> so you can't change that file?
[09:39] <ph8> for gods sake paul i'm not an idiot
[09:39] <conrad_> ossie: have fun, say hi to the gecko for me
[09:39] <trappist> I_Am_: unless you want to use captive
[09:39] <Tachyon> ossie: It could be worse.  You could be going back to Windows. :D
[09:39] <ph8> i run apt-get updates and upgrades regularly
[09:39] <I_Am_> captive?
[09:39] <hunger> trappist: Hah! The --root-directory hint brought me one step closer to a working grub install!
[09:39] <gerald> do I have to reboot for changes to occur?
[09:39] <trappist> hunger: awesome
[09:39] <conrad_> I love that gecko
[09:39] <kyncani> bluefrog-10: well, i did not like this {all must go through a web interface} thing with backuppc
[09:39] <mad_phoenix> I Am: that's not true, you can write to ntfs, but its dodgy and you essentially need to fsck the entire disk when you're done to check for inconsistencies...but you can do it using beta ntfstools
[09:39] <ossie> i might actually go back to windows, its much less hassle, i hate to say it but it s true
[09:39] <Kovecses> ossie, some people are better off on different distros... thats why there is so many
[09:40] <ompaul> ph8, thank you, and there are no outstanding issues, and your not running usplash
[09:40] <bluefrog-10> kyncani, too bad...
[09:40] <ossie> but i like ubuntu
[09:40] <Kovecses> windows is WAY more of a hassle for me
[09:40] <crimsun> !tell conrad_ about register
[09:40] <ossie> its just not doing simple tasks
[09:40] <Kovecses> like?
[09:40] <pashaw> ossie,   good luck   Ubuntu will still be here when you wish to try again
[09:40] <I_Am_> even if i have that windows partition mounted i still can't write to it?
[09:40] <kakei> no idea
[09:40] <kakei> does any one knows if a gamecube can be connected to the pc?
[09:40] <crimsun> conrad_: you need to be identified to query (priv msg) on Freenode
[09:40] <ph8> oo, usplash - let me check
[09:40] <ossie> this si my 3 install of ubuntu
[09:40] <conrad_> crimsun: who should tell me? can you not
[09:40] <kyncani> bluefrog-10: thanks anyway :)
[09:40] <I_Am_> i'm pretty sure i have downloaded some mp3's and stored them there
[09:40] <ossie> but i dont think i will be coming back if i leave this time
[09:41] <mcjerry> gerald: no reboot necessary
[09:41] <crimsun> conrad_: I just had the bot send you instructions.
[09:41] <conrad_> crimsun: how? where?
[09:41] <conrad_> ok
[09:41] <hunger> trappist: Of only I wouldn't need to enter the complete grub configuration each time I boot, then I think I'll be satisfied with my solution;-)
[09:42] <conrad_> ossie: what can be so difficult? what kind of computer do you have?
[09:42] <mcjerry> gerald: pm me
[09:42] <Unity> does anyone know how to set the welcome screen language?
[09:42] <ompaul> ph8, like you I am at a loss, your initial answers left me confused, which is why I broke it down to baby steps, if you care to hang around a while I will go play with some software and see if I can find the trigger you need
[09:42] <ossie> its not me its this ubuntu honeslty
[09:42] <conrad_> ossie: i installed breezy and everything works
[09:42] <Kovecses> ossie, well it seems to work for all of us
[09:42] <pashaw> ossie,   now your being silly
[09:42] <conrad_> ossie: have you used ubuntuguide.org ?
[09:42] <ossie> its all working, crashes now and then proably due to my nvidia
[09:42] <gerald> are you sure I add /dev/sda1 and not /media/sda1?
[09:43] <Kovecses> omg
[09:43] <conrad_> ossie: i use nvidia!
[09:43] <trappist> ossie: don't you think if it was the distro we'd all be having these issues and the distro would have failed long ago?
[09:43] <ossie> its just simple thigns like copying a file to my psp , takes an eternity
[09:43] <ossie> trying to get my ipod to work in gtkpod is a big hassle
[09:43] <mirak> crimsun: I have a bunch of .deb file resulting from a failed dist-upgrade to dapper. I was wondering if I can reuse them by just puting them into the apt archive folder
[09:43] <conrad_> ossie: sounds like windows is the one for you then
[09:43] <sethk> ossie, well, windows is really better for some people
[09:44] <crimsun> mirak: does the architecture match (i386)?
[09:44] <ossie> nah, will probably go back to ubuntu
[09:44] <sethk> ossie, administering a multiuser o/s is difficult
[09:44] <mirak> crimsun: sure
[09:44] <ossie> nah, will probably go back to suse
[09:44] <crimsun> mirak: then yes
[09:44] <Kovecses> ossie, do you use gnome in suse
[09:44] <mcjerry> gerald : can you pm me? register your nick and pm me
[09:44] <ossie> i dont mind the hassle , but hti sis getting ridiculous
[09:44] <mirak> crimsun: I was wondering if the files are referenced or if it just picks them into the cache
[09:44] <ossie> no i use Kde in suse
[09:44] <gerald> how do I register my nick?
[09:44] <pashaw> ossie,   i think you should    what you learn there may help you redo Ubuntu later
[09:44] <crimsun> mirak: they're downloaded and stashed in cache
[09:44] <veriz> Anyone know how i can bring webpages to my server?
[09:44] <veriz> Like from other server
[09:44] <ph8> ompaul: usplash is starting at the same runlevels as gdm
[09:45] <ompaul> ph8, okay first up the boot up manager program (bum who thinks up these names) is it installed?
[09:45] <ossie> wwooo hoo, cant take a bit of critiscm
[09:45] <ompaul> ahh
[09:45] <mcjerry> gerald: in FreeNode Servier window type /msg Nickserv Register
[09:45] <Unity> veriz, copy them into the document root
[09:45] <Kovecses> i used gnome for ever... used kde 3.5 for about a month.. to see what all the hype was about... then came right back to gnome
[09:45] <ompaul> ph8, it should :-/
[09:45] <Unity> veriz, you can maybe get them with httrack
[09:45] <conrad_> pashaw: i doubts it rpm and deb are so different . ap-get and yast
[09:45] <Tachyon> Anyone have insight into my printer question? :)  I'm just wondering if a non-CX-3800 driver will work, and if not, where I might find one for the printer.
[09:45] <ossie> im just pointing out my issues
[09:45] <veriz> Unity: httrack ?
[09:45] <pashaw> ossie,   i honestly like SuSe    just prefer debian way
[09:46] <ph8> "Manager Program" ?
[09:46] <conrad_> i love SUSE too, was my first love, but have to admit that apt-get is easier
[09:46] <ossie> ubuntu is better to use, just im finding it buggy
[09:46] <Unity> veriz, httrack mirrors webservers
[09:46] <Kovecses> ossie, so go use suse .. and stop whining
[09:47] <Kovecses> i like ubuntu and fedora
[09:47] <ossie> im not whining, im just airing my opinion
[09:47] <veriz> Unity: like if i want to set www.asdasd.com into my server what should i do?
[09:47] <ph8> ompaul:  "Manager Program"?
[09:47] <ossie> hope that isnt warrant to be kicked
[09:47] <ZeroIRC> Hey, how do I setup Sendmail?
[09:47] <pashaw> ossie,    this isnt the opinion channel  is a support channel  you know that
[09:47] <Kovecses> ossie, i was only kidding :)] 
[09:47] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: i sent you a pm, i have a suggestion to make regarding your fs mount
[09:47] <ossie> gang up on me is it ;)
[09:48] <ompaul> ph8, the program I was referring to (gtk ap: sudo apt-get install bum) is no longer of interest to me as you have "id"ed the fact that usplash should be starting: try this >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash<< it is unfortunate there is only one way to test :)
[09:48] <gerald-volt> wait
[09:48] <gerald-volt> give me a sec
[09:48] <ossie> i might stay on ubuntu just to come in here everyday and whine about my problems ;)
[09:48] <Unity> veriz, `httrack www.asdasd.com` and then copy all those files into your server's document root
[09:48] <ossie> im finding it very cathartic
[09:48] <Unity> veriz, i don't know if this is the cleanest solution though
[09:48] <Kovecses> ossie, are you from austraila?
[09:48] <ph8> that exited with no output ompaul
[09:48] <ossie> nope :)
[09:48] <ph8> i'm assuming that's normal
[09:49] <ompaul> ph8, as do I
[09:49] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: i wouldn't mount /dev/sda3 /media i would instead mkdir /mnt/windows and then /dev/sda3 /mnt/windows
[09:49] <Some_Body> hm, my amd64 computer won't detect the ubuntu boot disk
[09:49] <cliebow_> where does the wallpaper for a nautilus session actually live?
[09:49] <ph8> i'll reboot in an hour or so and let you know, downloading things atm
[09:49] <veriz> Unity: you mean just into /root directory?
[09:49] <Kovecses> ossie, yah i guess that would be aussie
[09:49] <Unity> veriz, no
[09:49] <Some_Body> I set it so the bios will detect the cd-rom first, but it still won't
[09:49] <ossie> nah its my real name
[09:49] <Kovecses> is it
[09:49] <Kovecses> i kinda like that name
[09:49] <ompaul> ph8, message me I most likley will not be watching the screen
[09:49] <gerald-volt> so you mean link /media/sda3 to /mnt/windows?
[09:49] <Unity> veriz, look at your webserver's config te find out where the documents go
[09:50] <Kovecses> Kovecses is my name
[09:50] <ossie> i might go for the dapper kernel next , watch out then ill be screaming in hear
[09:50] <Unity> veriz, /root is root's homedir
[09:50] <Some_Body> I also set the cd-rom as the master, and the hard disk as slave after the initial attempt failed
[09:50] <Some_Body> knowing it would do nothing
[09:50] <Some_Body> but...er...any suggestions?
[09:50] <ph8> cheers
[09:50] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: think you need to check to see if there is a /media/sda3 ...... never saw that.....should be a /dev/sda3.......ls to check
[09:51] <gerald-volt> NO
[09:51] <gerald-volt> sorry for caps
[09:51] <Kovecses> Some_Body, use a boot floppy
[09:51] <anna> hello, could someone please tell me how to use unace?
[09:51] <ossie> yes i think i might try to the dapper kernel before i jum the ubuntu ship
[09:51] <gerald-volt> i have /media/sda3
[09:51] <gerald-volt> that's my windows partition
[09:51] <gerald-volt> I can read it when I'm root
[09:51] <Ribs> anna: tried typing 'man unace' ?
[09:51] <yahaa_swe> ossie, you are now wanted dead or alive by the ubuntu mafia :P
[09:51] <ossie> ehehhehe
[09:51] <Some_Body> will a floppy hold 320+ mb?
[09:51] <ossie> i bet i am, i believe that
[09:51] <anna> Ribs in the terminal?
[09:51] <ossie> hehehe
[09:51] <mcjerry> gerald-volt, then is it already mounted in your fstab?
[09:51] <Ribs> anna: yes
[09:51] <Kovecses> Some_Body, no a boot floppy
[09:52] <gerald-volt> and in /dev
[09:52] <gerald-volt> i don't have anything called sda3
[09:52] <ompaul> ossie, sorry bud, but think about it, the rest of the world is wrong and your right?
[09:52] <gerald-volt> yea
[09:52] <crimsun> ossie: Dapper's kernel depends on a lot of infrastructure that Breezy lacks.
[09:52] <trappist> anna: unace x file.ace I think
[09:52] <gerald-volt> it works
[09:52] <ossie> yeah i find that alot , heheheheheh
[09:52] <gerald-volt> it's just that I want the user gerald to be able to read that partition as  well
[09:52] <gerald-volt> /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    user,gerald        0       0
[09:52] <gerald-volt> do I just do that?
[09:52] <hunger> trappist: Heureka! Works now! Thanks for your hint!
[09:52] <conrad_> i cant wait for the Dapper Duck either
[09:52] <trappist> hunger: rockin
[09:52] <gerald-volt> before, the options was just default
[09:52] <anna> thank you, ill try this..
[09:52] <Ribs> gerald-volt: I think it's just 'users'
[09:52] <gerald-volt> k
[09:52] <ompaul> drake
[09:52] <Ribs> gerald-volt: you can't list the users in the fstab file
[09:52] <ossie> i think i had exagerated expectations of linux in general
[09:52] <conrad_> or is it Drake, hehe
[09:53] <Kovecses> duck?
[09:53] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: do you have ubuntu-desktop up?
[09:53] <ph8> who knows anything about configuring an imap server? I'm running courier via xinetd and some users can create folders with subfolders but not delete them, some can create folders without subfolders but delete them etc
[09:53] <Fanskapet> aagh.. damn you gentoo! bleh
[09:53] <Ribs> gerald-volt: It's either 'user' or 'users', I'm not sure.
[09:53] <Some_Body> what's wrong with gentoo?
[09:53] <gerald-volt> it's user
[09:53] <gerald-volt> according to the other options
[09:53] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, gentoo?... gentoo is cool
[09:53] <dennis999> What's a good file splitter for 4 gig+ files?
[09:53] <Ribs> gerald-volt: But that only controls who can mount the volume, not who can read/write it
[09:53] <Fanskapet> Some_Body, something strange :)
[09:53] <hunger> trappist: Now I only need to patch the linux-image install script that insists on putting the wrong kernel entries into menu.lst;-)
[09:53] <conrad_> Drake/Duck; who cares as long as its Daper
[09:53] <ompaul> Some_Body, nothing the people in the other chat room will tell you
[09:53] <yahaa_swe> Some_Body, its installation is a biatch
[09:53] <gerald-volt> oh
[09:53] <rukk> has anybody noticed that the latest version of firefox has a broken download box?
[09:53] <Fanskapet> Some_Body, http://pastebin.com/480677
[09:53] <Some_Body> well, if you do a stage 1...
[09:53] <gerald-volt> well then how do I make it so that I can read it
[09:53] <Epix> ok, wtf, my mouse wont work in quake3. I have reinstalled and rebooted. IT just stays in the upper left hand corner. Why?! I cant find any info at all on this! It even worked a while ago, and I have made NO changes to my q3config since! Help!
[09:53] <rukk> as in, nothing shows up at all in the download box, but it downloads fine?
[09:54] <ossie> dapper has in built support for the ITE raid card doesnt it , with this one i recompiled to include it , maybe ive made it buggy in the proccess
[09:54] <Kovecses> i like gentoo... but ubuntu "just works"
[09:54] <Fanskapet> Some_Body tell me if you see any error in that init.d file :)
[09:54] <trollducky> conrad, 'Dapper' heh
[09:54] <ompaul> conrad_, a drake is an interesting word put it with the word dragon into google or some such
[09:54] <Fanskapet> Kovecses, hummz well if it works yes :)
[09:54] <gerald-volt> so uuhh
[09:54] <gerald-volt> what do I do?
[09:54] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, so why are you in #ubuntu
[09:54] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: goto system/admiistration/disk
[09:54] <gerald-volt> gentoo has lots of good docs
[09:54] <Fanskapet> Kovecses, becouse im also a ubuntu user?
[09:54] <gerald-volt> i'm not using gnome
[09:54] <gerald-volt> i'm using fvwm
[09:55] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, ahh
[09:55] <Sika_> hello guys, i like to install my ubuntu to external usb2.0 hd.. after first reboot following comes up: ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist. Dropping to shell - any advice to newbie ?
[09:55] <ompaul> gentoo and ancient african word for too much time on my hands :)
[09:55] <Fanskapet> Kovecses why are you in #ubuntu ?
[09:55] <marc_> does anyone here play World of Warcraft? I could use alittle help with the mouse issue - I've been trying the workaround but i cant seem to get it to work
[09:55] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, to talk trash to you :)
[09:55] <gerald-volt> haha
[09:55] <crimsun> gerald-volt: you need to mount it with umask=022
[09:55] <anna> trappist sorry, it does not work :(
[09:55] <Fanskapet> nice nice :)
[09:55] <gerald-volt> how do I do that
[09:55] <crimsun> gerald-volt: you probably want nls=utf8, too
[09:55] <trappist> Sika_: that's not going to work.  the kernel modules necessary to mount a usb hard drive aren't available at boot time.  you'll need to build your own kernel (or your own initrd) to fix it.
[09:55] <Fanskapet> and init.d scripts should not differ from ubuntu anyhow..
[09:55] <Fanskapet> bleh.. can't understand what's wrong with the crap
[09:56] <avgasse> I installed Xubuntu
[09:56] <Xenguy> nvidia: I am assuming that 'GeForce6100' is not an "older card", and so I do not need the 'legacy' drivers -- does this sound correct?
[09:56] <gerald-volt> hold on
[09:56] <gerald-volt> i gotta log off
[09:56] <ossie> well guys , im off sorry if i caused any offense, i will be back later to get some more advice on getting ubuntu working properly, NONE HACK ME NOW BE GOOD
[09:56] <gerald-volt> brb
[09:56] <Fanskapet> I can run it successfully with eg. /etc/init.d/blabla start
[09:56] <avgasse> what init script do I modify to tell Ubuntu to start xfce?
[09:56] <Sika_> trappist: ok, thx
[09:56] <Xenguy> er, nvidia question: I am assuming that 'GeForce6100' is not an "older card", and so I do not need the 'legacy' drivers -- does this sound correct?
[09:56] <yahaa_swe> ossie, take care now, bye bye then xD
[09:56] <aris[doritos] > i'd say yes
[09:56] <aris[doritos] > just try Xenguy
[09:56] <Fanskapet> but not at boot-time using rc-update add blabla default.. then i just get echo'ed "Usage: /etc/init.d/$NAME {start|stop|restart}" at boot-time.. really strange.
[09:56] <Fanskapet> beats me why
[09:57] <Xenguy> aris[doritos] : try what?
[09:57] <crimsun> avgasse: none. Just select Xfce4 from the Sessions menu in GDM.
[09:57] <aris[doritos] > try the non-legacy before trying legacy ones
[09:57] <Florob> Xenguy: GeForce6100 is not an older card.
[09:57] <crimsun> avgasse: I presume you have the 'xfce4' package installed from universe.
[09:57] <yan> I have sime problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?
[09:57] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, what are you adding
[09:57] <yan> some*
[09:57] <Xenguy> Florob: thanks
[09:57] <avgasse> no, I installed xubuntu-desktop
[09:57] <cliebow_> Maine1
[09:58] <Fanskapet> Kovecses, http://pastebin.com/480677
[09:58] <Xenguy> aris[doritos] : already tried that
[09:58] <avgasse> I don't have a login manager
[09:58] <Fanskapet> Kovecses, starting a vnc session at boot.
[09:58] <avgasse> I don't use gdm, I think
[09:58] <yan> I have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?
[09:58] <yan> I have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?
[09:58] <Fanskapet> also have a even more simpler script starting a screen with irssi on the user fanskapet
[09:58] <yan> I have some problems : how can i change the sources of synaptic?
[09:58] <gerald-volt> ok
[09:58] <gerald-volt> I think I got it tow ork
[09:58] <Fanskapet> works starting as root manually but at boot-time.. the same result.
[09:59] <Kovecses> Fanskapet, dude look at that code... that should explain everything
[09:59] <gerald-volt> I just unmounted my windows partition
[09:59] <aris[doritos] > yan, don't spam
[09:59] <gerald-volt> and then ran this line
[09:59] <gerald-volt> mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:59] <Florob> Xenguy: actually the package description says that anything newer then GF2 is not old
[09:59] <trappist> yan: we heard you the third time
[09:59] <aris[doritos] > actually, if you can't find out how to use the source packages and ask the question in loop
[09:59] <yan> ok sorry
[09:59] <aris[doritos] > you have no business in changing them
[09:59] <Fanskapet> Kovecses, i have been staring at it for almost 1 1/2 hour :) and some documentation :) probably not enough
[09:59] <Fanskapet> but i don't get what's wrong :)
[09:59] <aris[doritos] > what are you going to change ?
[09:59] <trappist> yan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <yan> 10x
[10:00] <mcjerry> gerald-volt: i thought you said it was sda1 but if you got it to mount cool....
[10:00] <Kovecses> yan, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:00] <Kovecses> yan, or go here
[10:00] <gerald-volt> sorry if I said sda1
[10:00] <BoukenPink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 <- Is there a way I can do this but split the resulting archive into parts that could be burned on to CD? :3
[10:00] <avgasse> so, how do I tell Ubuntu to skip the console and go right to xfce4?
[10:00] <Kovecses> yan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:00] <yan> ok 1thatnk u ill try
[10:01] <Fanskapet> yahaa_swe, damn nuisance is the accurate translation :)
[10:01] <Kovecses> avgasse, well you could install a login mamager
[10:01] <Kovecses> avgasse, or add it to xinitrc
[10:01] <avgasse> what would be the "lightest" login manager then?
[10:01] <yahaa_swe> Fanskapet, :D
[10:01] <Kovecses> avgasse, xdm
[10:02] <mike-e> hmm upgrade went relatively smooth.
[10:02] <john_> I suddenly can not access the network configuration dialog in breezy? anyone got any ideas?
[10:02] <aris[doritos] > login + startx
[10:02] <pashaw> mike-e,   haha famous last words
[10:02] <mike-e> yeah no kidding
[10:02] <avgasse> xinitrc is for when X is already started...
[10:03] <Some_Body> well, I'm going to hope I screwed up the burning process for the cd, and download ubuntu again
[10:03] <LFA> hi
[10:03] <Kovecses> avgasse, it will start xfce for you though
[10:03] <aris[doritos] > i updated a laptop from debian to breezy server ;p and it worked fine
[10:03] <aris[doritos] > alos updated the hoary of my gf, I just had issues with nvidia-legacy
[10:03] <john_> anyone know that "lo" is on the network interfaces?
[10:03] <avgasse> but it won't start X for me
[10:04] <Hikaru79> john, it's the loopback local address. It's always there, don't worry about it.
[10:04] <aris[doritos] > john_, loopback. it's your own computer
[10:04] <Hikaru79> Should be on 127.0.0.1
[10:04] <john_> well something strange is happening....
[10:04] <hunger> john_: It is used so that your computer can talk to itself.
[10:04] <Hikaru79> john_, what is it?
[10:04] <aris[doritos] > trying to tcpdump it is not a good idea
[10:04] <john_> ok i had my wifi configured ok
[10:04] <john_> and i started up and it didnt work
[10:05] <mike-e> is it possible to switch kubuntu to just regular ubuntu?
[10:05] <john_> so normally i go into configuration and disable it then activate it and 9 times out of 10 it works again
[10:05] <mike-e> or is that unnecessary
[10:05] <slide> Wtf is gam_server and why is it using 305MiB of my memory?
[10:05] <john_> ...i was getting this same issue with wired ethernet
[10:05] <trappist> mike-e: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <UbuntuNewbie> I have a dual boot Windows Partitioning question
[10:05] <john_> anyway this time i start up i cant get to the configuration dialog
[10:05] <mcjerry> john_ lo is 127.0.0.1 loopback
[10:05] <Kovecses> gnome is better
[10:05] <john_> and therefore had no internet connection
[10:05] <Florob> mike-e: well you would install ubuntu-desktop pacage and remove kubuntu-desktop + dependecys.
[10:06] <mike-e> good
[10:06] <mike-e> kde sucks ass
[10:06] <john_> so i tried selecting eth0 and no luck as I couldnt get to the config dialog
[10:06] <Kovecses> w00t
[10:06] <john_> so then I tried ath0 (wifi)
[10:06] <john_> still no luck
[10:06] <john_> so then i tried lo and it works????
[10:06] <StyXman> I'm confused: what's the difference between breezy-updates and breezy-security?
[10:06] <john_> how t f is that?
[10:06] <UbuntuNewbie> I read the data from the Windows Dual Boot Howto
[10:06] <crimsun> slide: it's the userspace portion of a file-monitoring tool
[10:06] <Kovecses> even though linus dissed gnome
[10:06] <mike-e> brb
[10:06] <john_> normally i have either ath0 or eth0 selected
[10:06] <mike-e> linus sucks ass too
[10:06] <UbuntuNewbie> I have 2 partitions
[10:06] <mike-e> brb
[10:06] <Kovecses> lol
[10:06] <slide> crimsun, Is 300megs a normal amount of memory for it to eat?
[10:07] <john_> so how come selecting lo see,s to have overidden everything and it works now?
[10:07] <avgasse> my new question is: how do I start X at boot
[10:07] <crimsun> slide: it's not unreasonable
[10:07] <pashaw> UbuntuNewbie,  just ask your question and dont make mulitple lines
[10:07] <slide> ok
[10:07] <klaym> which terminal command shuts the computer down (in the sophisticated manner of course) ?
[10:07] <john_> anyone?
[10:07] <mcjerry> john_ when you type lsconfig, what is the ip address you have for lo?
[10:07] <visik7> klaym: shutdown
[10:07] <klaym> visik7: thanks
[10:07] <slide> klaym, powers off or restarts?
[10:07] <aris[doritos] > StyXman, breezy-security is like breezy-updates but only has security issues and is more up to dates than others
[10:07] <crimsun> slide: keep in mind that's not 300 physical megs. That 300 includes shared mappings.
[10:07] <Florob> mike-e: well he made a statement I wouldn't sign, but kde is better then gnome in some aspects, which he seems to care about, so I can understand him
[10:08] <klaym> shuts down
[10:08] <john_> where do i type lsconfig?
[10:08] <klaym> quite obvious :)
[10:08] <slide> shutdown -h now, i believe
[10:08] <aris[doritos] > or halt
[10:08] <mcjerry> john_ open terminal window
[10:08] <deniswifi> ola
[10:08] <klaym> what's the -h and now ?
[10:08] <deniswifi> ciao???
[10:08] <conrad_> kovecses: burnt that data cd. The pc dvd player will show'em, but unfortunately it doesn't play on my television dvd player
[10:08] <steve__> hey guys im having a brain cramp. what is the command to see the list of device connected to the computer
[10:08] <crimsun> aris[doritos] : (you probably meant breezy-security only has security updates, whereas breezy-updates has critical non-security fixes)
[10:08] <slide> man shutdown
[10:08] <slide> ;)
[10:08] <StyXman> aris[doritos] : so, should I update against both or just security?
[10:09] <avgasse> If I have to install a login manager, which is the "lightest" AND gives me a list of possible users? I don't want the end user to type her username, just her password
[10:09] <pashaw> steve__,   lspci
[10:09] <crimsun> StyXman: both.
[10:09] <aris[doritos] > take both of them
[10:09] <deniswifi> how writer dvd with ubuntu?
[10:09] <UbuntuNewbie> A 40 MB utility partition, and a 200GB ntfs partition (bootable).  The 200 GB ntfs partition is 1/4 full with windows junk...can I just resize it with the partitioner on the ubuntu cd
[10:09] <ITSa341> <-- has had lots of brain cramps the last few days trying to get 3d acceleration on my ATI Radeon Mobility IGP320
[10:09] <klaym> UbuntuNewbie: yes
[10:09] <klaym> UbuntuNewbie: just did it myself :)
[10:09] <conrad_> kovecses: that tovid is not easy for a noob like myself to find and compile
[10:09] <john_> mcjerry, i done that
[10:09] <steve__> that didnt tell me about my ide stuff tho
[10:10] <john_> command not found
[10:10] <mcjerry> steve__ depends on how they are connected
[10:10] <john_> should i be in a particular directory
[10:10] <steve__> they are ide connected
[10:10] <pashaw> steve__,    drives?   fdisk -l
[10:10] <steve__> but not mounted yet
[10:10] <steve__> thats it
[10:10] <mcjerry> john_ and what did it output?
[10:10] <john_> got a command not found
[10:10] <conrad_> koveceses: found a repository which i added to /etc/ sources list but apt-get didn't like it
[10:10] <mcjerry> steve__ exactly what are you trying to do?
[10:10] <steve__> wierd
[10:11] <UbuntuNewbie> ok say i want 10 gig for ubuntu...how do I set it up without killing current windows...that is what scares me.
[10:11] <mcjerry> john_ try ifconfig then
[10:11] <steve__> im trying to see what the drive is
[10:11] <steve__> ie hda1
[10:11] <conrad_> kovecses: for the tar ball there were too many dpendency issues
[10:11] <steve__> but i do the -l command and i see nothing
[10:11] <john_> the lo ip address is 127.0.0.1
[10:11] <mcjerry> steve__ do you have gnome /
[10:11] <steve__> yep
[10:11] <hunger> UbuntuNewbie: DO BACKUPS! Then grap partitionmagic (that is better at resizing ntfs then the free tools).
[10:11] <conrad_> kovecses: are you there?
[10:12] <mcjerry> john_ did ifconfig output any other connections than lo?
[10:12] <mcjerry> steve__ System/Administration/Disks
[10:12] <john_> yes both eth0 and ath0
[10:12] <pashaw> steve__,   you use sudo  first?
[10:12] <ITSa341> <-- lost my XP installation using the included partition utility on the install cd   MAKE BACKUPS
[10:12] <john_> by the looks of it my eth0 is the one with the connection
[10:12] <Kovecses> conrad_, just got back whats up?
[10:12] <gerald-volt> how do I setup nautilus so that I only use the file browser, and not the entiere gnome X window thing?'
[10:12] <Epix> WahhH!!! I get a very bad error... "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged yourself out, thhis could mean that there is some install problem or you are out of diskspace"!!!
[10:12] <john_> but why cant I access the net when I select this one
[10:12] <steve__> whoops
[10:12] <mcjerry> john_ and what are the ips for eth0 and  ath0
[10:12] <steve__> all good now guys
[10:13] <conrad_> kovecses: back track the messages i wrote to you if you can, or shall i repeat it all?
[10:13] <john_> ath0 doesnt have one and eth0 has the ip address I assign it static
[10:13] <Kovecses> conrad_, all the dependencies you need are apt-getabble ... there is a list on the site
[10:13] <Kovecses> conrad_, but wait.. i even think there is a .deb?
[10:14] <UbuntuNewbie> Will the included partition utility kill the whole ntfs partition?
[10:14] <conrad_> kovecses: not all, there was a wxpython, which wasn'ty apt-get-able. couldn't find the .deb
[10:14] <crimsun> UbuntuNewbie: only if you tell it to
[10:14] <Seveas> UbuntuNewbie, only if you tell it to
[10:14] <Seveas> lol
[10:14] <mcjerry> john_ are you behind a router? are you sure static ip is correct wth correct gateway ip and dns server ips
[10:14] <crimsun> ^5 Seveas
[10:14] <Seveas> :)
[10:14] <john_> yes
[10:14] <Verwilst> hi
[10:14] <john_> yeah my networking is all fine
[10:14] <Epix> rebooting!
[10:14] <john_> I have an ip range
[10:14] <Verwilst> anybody here has a linux dualhead setup?
[10:15] <john_> of statics
[10:15] <john_> its all good
[10:15] <mcjerry> Steve__ you good to go?
[10:15] <UbuntuNewbie> Well what do I set the setting as?  "Manually edit partition table"  -- then what?
[10:15] <pashaw> Verwilst,   yes i use a quadro at home
[10:15] <john_> its just strange how when selecting eth0 i lose my net connection and when I select lo I get it back. What else is strange is how I cant access the network config dialog in gnome anymore
[10:15] <Kovecses> conrad_, http://tovid.berlios.de/en/install.html
[10:15] <john_> just nothing pops up when I click configure
[10:15] <john_> even after reboots
[10:16] <Seveas> UbuntuNewbie, then you select partitions and do things with it (resize, format, tell the installer to leave it alone)
[10:16] <Verwilst> pashaw: quadro? 4 screens??
[10:16] <pashaw> Verwilst,   im poor 2 screens  :P
[10:16] <Verwilst> pashaw: i would like to setup a dualscreen at work
[10:16] <mcjerry> john_ you got something wrong in your routing tables
[10:16] <Verwilst> but i don't know which card works fine under linux
[10:16] <conrad_> kovecses: thank you. i couldn't figure it out from berlios. So, i'll follow the link you've given. I'll let you know :)
[10:16] <john_> I have?
[10:16] <pashaw> Verwilst,   what card?
[10:16] <ara> i'
[10:16] <Verwilst> graphics card :)
[10:16] <john_> how do I fix that then?
[10:16] <pashaw> Verwilst,   yes
[10:17] <Seveas> with my ati card dualscreen is a breeze with fglrxconfig
[10:17] <Kovecses> conrad_, add the repos it shows and you will be golden
[10:17] <AIV> does someone know of a list that details what boards are supported by ubuntu?
[10:17] <alan__> can anyone help me with advice on how to get ubuntu to see a second harddrive that i just plugged in
[10:17] <AIV> a hardware list?
[10:17] <Verwilst> Seveas: which one?
[10:17] <mcjerry> john_ if you deactivate eth0 can you still access the internet with lo?
[10:17] <john_> I know everything is fine cos the IP address I assigned works fine, I can ping all my local network machines and access the net
[10:17] <Seveas> AIV, a partial list is on the wiki under HardwareSupport
[10:17] <ara> i'm trying to run a command on the terminal windows but it says"permission denied" what's wrong?
[10:17] <Seveas> Verwilst, mobility 9000/9600
[10:17] <john_> I cant deactivate it as the configure screen wont opn
[10:17] <conrad_> kovecses: i did add the repos but apt-get didn't like 'em
[10:17] <john_> open
[10:17] <Verwilst> oh, a laptop
[10:17] <Epix> fuck. this error isnt going away.
[10:17] <calamari> alan__: what kind of hd.. and did you reboot ?
[10:18] <ITSa341> ara  use sudo  you need root permissions for the script you are trying
[10:18] <UbuntuNewbie> So for example...the bootable ntfs partition...do I just resize it to 180 GB first, then do I format 20 GB of that for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <john_> unless u can tell me the command and Ill do it from terminal
[10:18] <conrad_> kovecses: i've been to the link you've given before, but don't know where to go from there
[10:18] <Florob> epix: is this dapper or breezy?
[10:18] <Epix> Florob: breezy
[10:18] <mcjerry> john_ you only have one ip address assigned to eth0 correct.....try opening network with sudo or root
[10:18] <john_> correct
[10:18] <dabaR> !seen bob2
[10:18] <alan__> its an internal 60 gig hd  it has ubuntu installed on it (trying to recover the files onto my hd)
[10:18] <ubotu> bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13d 15h 11m 24s ago, saying: 'cooper's heritage is the perfect * beer'.
[10:18] <conrad_> kovecses: tried and failed the repository route, the tar ball looks too daunting
[10:18] <AIV> Seveas, How do I get to that list?
[10:18] <ara> what's sudo?
[10:18] <AIV> I will google
[10:18] <john_> how does one do that?
[10:18] <pashaw> UbuntuNewbie,   dont touch your main partiton resize your extra one
[10:18] <alan__> yes i rebooted
[10:18] <Florob> epix: did iti work before whatever you did and what did you do?
[10:18] <conrad_> kovecses:  a simple .deb file would be nice
[10:18] <ITSa341> super user for one command only unlike logging in as root
[10:19] <Seveas> !tell ara about root
[10:19] <calamari> alan__: ok.. what do you get with: ls /dev/hd*
[10:19] <ara> i'm pretty new to linux, it's my first day
[10:19] <Kovecses> conrad_, what was the errors when you tried the repo?
[10:19] <Epix> Florob: it worked before, and i installed quake3 then rebooted.
[10:19] <alan__> i want to reinstall kbuntu on the second drive.. but i plugged it in to my computer so i can drag the music files off it
[10:19] <ITSa341> ara   well, enjoy it and keep learning
[10:20] <conrad_> kovecses: geez, i don't remember. but an error message came back for sure when i went into synaptic
[10:20] <gerald-volt> how do I get openoffice to display my hp printer?
[10:20] <ITSa341> you came to the right place for help....that's why I am here, I find the help I need here
[10:20] <hunger> ara Don't get discouraged! It is not as hard as it might look when people are shouting strange things at you in response to your questions;-)
[10:20] <UbuntuNewbie> Me thinks I need partition Magic.....this is too easy to screw up badly!
[10:20] <Kovecses> conrad_, http://packages.kirya.net/   .... this site has the deb.... but it wont solve dependencies
[10:20] <conrad_> kovecses: did you find that you had no problem adding the repo?
[10:20] <alan__> /dev/hda   /dev/hda2  /dev/hdb   /dev/hdb2  /dev/hdc
[10:20] <alan__> /dev/hda1  /dev/hda5  /dev/hdb1  /dev/hdb5  /dev/hdd
[10:20] <Kovecses> conrad_, let me try
[10:20] <ITSa341> I've been using ubuntu for about a week now
[10:20] <pashaw> UbuntuNewbie,  i agree    use anything that makes you more comforatable
[10:20] <UbuntuNewbie> I was just trying to save some $$$
[10:20] <Florob> epix: that's strange, does quake 3 install itself over the whole system, or just in one's home directory, because if it installs itself "everywhere" it might be possilbe that it replaced a file of the xserver with a incompatible file from itself
[10:20] <dabaR> alan__: and?
[10:21] <alan__> im trying to figure out which one of those is the 10 gig drive i just attached
[10:21] <mcjerry> john_ sudo network-admin
[10:21] <Epix> Florob: it was in /usr/local/games
[10:21] <BlackEntity> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows workarounds to the absence of DMA in 64 bit Linux? (as many distros I try, as many kernel recompiles I do I cannot seem to get over this)
[10:21] <alan__> and how to access it
[10:21] <calamari> alan__: ahh.. type mount
[10:21] <john_> ok
[10:21] <Kovecses> conrad_, the repos worked for me bud
[10:22] <conrad_> kovecses: i was at the kirya website exactly
[10:22] <hunger> alan__: Try fdisk -l /dev/hda. That pints the partition table of the drive.
[10:22] <dabaR> alan__: it is likely the hdb(whole drive) has 3 partitions, and use "sudo fdisk -l" to find out more. and paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, not here.
[10:22] <john_> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:22] <john_> ?
[10:22] <BlackEntity> Only useable Linux I had working on this laptop was 32 bit distros and I get a skewed clock on thoose.
[10:22] <conrad_> kovecses: ?? you just added them at the bottom of your sources.list ?
[10:22] <conrad_> kovecses: copied and pasted?
[10:22] <alan__> tx
[10:22] <koro> olarilole: i just read what you said about keyboard
[10:22] <Epix> Florob: the error is unable to read the ICE aithority file: /home.../.ICEauthority
[10:23] <koro> olarilole: but mine is not a problem in X, it's in console
[10:23] <Kovecses> conrad_, do you see the .deb on the page??????
[10:23] <john_> Anybody here running Dapper?
[10:23] <crimsun> john_: yes
[10:23] <hunger> john_: Yes.
[10:23] <mcjerry> john_ Dapper here
[10:23] <dabaR> no
[10:23] <alan__> Disk /dev/hda: 10.2 GB, 10245000192 bytes
[10:23] <alan__>    thank you
[10:23] <john_> crimsun, I heard that the networking was better for accessing windows shares,is it true?
[10:24] <crimsun> john_: no idea, I use AFS
[10:24] <ITSa341> Anyone here ever try to get 3d acceleration working with an ATI Radeon Mobility IGP320??
[10:24] <dabaR> john_: through samba?
[10:24] <hunger> john_: No idea, I use fish:-)
[10:24] <dabaR> john_: I mean, smbfs...
[10:24] <john_> yeah
[10:24] <HIghoS> john_: Can't really tell if you if it's better, didn't use it that much when I was using Hoary and Breezy, but I have no problems now in dapper.
[10:24] <Florob> epix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583 has a solution to that problem
[10:24] <dabaR> john_: why do you need it to be better, is it not working good for you?
[10:24] <visik7> ITSa341: it's not support by ati propetary driver
[10:24] <conrad_> kovecses: are there a host of 'em. all with i386?
[10:24] <pashaw> john_,   i wouldnt believe it  unless brezzy has a bug   smb has been around too long
[10:25] <john_> for example...in order for me to play an mp3 direct from a windows share I needed to mount the windows share each time I use it
[10:25] <john_> but I heard dapper may fix this?
[10:25] <john_> by defualt
[10:25] <jauregi> hi
[10:25] <jauregi> i need help
[10:25] <ITSa341> visik7 is there another driver somewhere besides the ATI which would work?
[10:25] <pashaw> john_,   or setup an auto mount
[10:25] <hunger> john_: Haven't tried, but I doubt it.
[10:25] <visik7> ITSa341: mmm I don't think
[10:25] <alan__> dabaR  how can i browse /dev/hda  when i go there in konqueror it shows as empty
[10:25] <dabaR> john_: and, is there a line for the share in fstab that allows you to view the files without specifically mounting it?
[10:25] <marc_> Anyone here know how i Enable display of hidden folders with the default File Manager
[10:25] <hunger> john_: How are you setting up the connection?
[10:25] <dabaR> alan__: you mount it. what is on it?
[10:25] <john_> mcjerry, think I will just count my lucky stars that its working
[10:26] <ITSa341> figures, that is about the only major hurdle left for me on this thing
[10:26] <hunger> alan__ : hda is the entire DRIVE!
[10:26] <yan> MAy I ask a question:)?
[10:26] <john_> hunger, bear in mind im a newbie.....
[10:26] <Kovecses> conrad_, what are you talking about?
[10:26] <jauregi> how can i know which processes are using /dev/dsp?
[10:26] <dabaR> yan: off copurse not
[10:26] <hunger> alan__: Your data is in the partitions (hdaX).
[10:26] <alan__> its 10 gig drive full of music
[10:26] <chucker> i have a launchpad account, and i used to be able to log in to, say, shipit.ubuntu.com with it -- but i can't any more, and i can't log in to wiki.ubuntu.com (which i intended to do) either. i have already tried resetting the password, but i know that's not the problem since i can login to launchpad.net just fine
[10:26] <dabaR> yan: did you pay the paypal account for the channel?
[10:26] <jauregi> how can i know what processes are using /dev/dsp?
[10:26] <pashaw> !ati
[10:26] <ITSa341> yan    ask away and if someone can help you they may
[10:26] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:26] <Epix> Florob: fixed, thanks. now want to help with my evil quake3 problem?
[10:26] <korptix\a> hi.
[10:26] <visik7> marc_: view->hidden files or ctrl+h
[10:26] <conrad_> kovecses: further down kirya's page on the link you gave
[10:26] <yan> I have dual Boot: ubuntu [with kde]  and Windows XP, How can I do that the Ubuntu will see my ntfs Drive C: ??
[10:26] <pashaw> ITSa341,   did you read that?
[10:26] <john_> hunger, I mounted the windows server 2003 share using mkdir /mnt/<name-of-mount-point>
[10:26] <conrad_> kovecses: i see no other .deb file otherwise
[10:26] <hunger> john_: So what? So am I (wrt. Samba at least)
[10:27] <john_> then access it
[10:27] <Florob> epix: depends on what those are
[10:27] <chucker> jauregi, lsof could be of help
[10:27] <ITSa341> pashaw   tried those links very carefully more than one time
[10:27] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:27] <marc_> Visik7, thanks
[10:27] <ITSa341> they are for older ATI not the IGP
[10:27] <dabaR> ubotu: tell yan about ntfs
[10:27] <conrad_> kovecses: did you sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then copy and paste the repos at the bottom?
[10:27] <john_> hunger, then mount -t smbfs -o username=<username>,password=<password> //<win-box>/<share> /mnt/<name-of-mountpoint>
[10:27] <korptix\a> ?
[10:27] <pashaw> ITSa341,   ahhh   perhaps google it
[10:27] <hunger> john_: That works? mkdir does create a directory, nothing more.
[10:27] <john_> ^
[10:27] <pashaw> ITSa341, new stuff  can be tricky
[10:27] <BlackEntity> Any suggestions for enabling DMA on 64 bit linux(sempron 3200, ati IXP controller)?
[10:27] <jauregi> thanks chucker
[10:27] <korptix\a> anyone ?
[10:27] <chucker> yw
[10:28] <yan> dabaR 10x:0
[10:28] <alan__> one last dumb question, how can i mount /dev/hda    ???
[10:28] <Kovecses> mount /dev/hda
[10:28] <hunger> john_: Good! Have you tried adding that to /etc/fstab? That is a table which lists all the filesystems the system knows (and only those can be mounted at bootup).
[10:28] <ITSa341> pashaw   tried that also before I came in here bugging people. But, thanks for trying. I can live without 3d acceleration....for now   LOL
[10:28] <Epix> Florob: mouse stays in the top left hand corner.
[10:28] <Kovecses> conrad_, do you see my file offer?
[10:28] <Epix> Florob: and i can click. but its not moving!
[10:28] <korptix\a> ..
[10:28] <dabaR> alan__: it is set into partitions, you will not be mounting hda itself, but one of hdaX
[10:28] <sethk> alan__, typically hda is a partitioned device and you would not mount it
[10:28] <dabaR> alan__: and tell us what is on it.
[10:28] <sethk> alan__, you would mount, say, hda1
[10:28] <BlackEntity> mount /dev/hda -t <FS?> /media/<make a dir here before hand>
[10:29] <alan__> ok im trying
[10:29] <BlackEntity> right my mistake as well
[10:29] <conrad_> kovecses: yes, i have clicked 'accept' but nothing is happening. did youget my quesiton about repos and source list?
[10:29] <hunger> john_: fstab needs exactly the information from your mount command. The formatting is a bit different, but I am sure you can figure it out.
[10:29] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:29] <john_> hunger, yes I did but everytime I boot it asks for a password now
[10:29] <dabaR> john_: ya, you would have to add it to fstab to have it always mounted.
[10:29] <y_o_u> hello everyone. ubuntu n00b here, trying to adjust my screen res in 5.04. when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. anyone able to help? thanks
[10:29] <dabaR> hunger: you did not set it up properly then. There could be a option for a password.
[10:29] <Florob> epix: this can be cause of an attached joystick (happend one time to me), if you don't have one I have no idea
[10:30] <dabaR> hunger: sorry.
[10:30] <john_> maybes i put it in the same format as the mount command?
[10:30] <Kovecses> conrad_, just copied and pasted.... i installed tovid from source so...i dont really no whats the deal
[10:30] <conrad_> kovecses: seems repos is still thebest way to go if i can, because apt-get will take care of dependencies for me
[10:30] <dabaR> john_: ^
[10:30] <hunger> BlackEntity: Do you want to mount the drive?!
[10:30] <john_> mabes its wrong and why I am getting a password request on boot
[10:30] <chucker> y_o_u, what do you mean with "nothing happens"? does a dialog come up at all?
[10:30] <marc_> I officialy have proof that linux is idiot proof.  I can use it.
[10:30] <ITSa341> LOL
[10:30] <yahaa_swe> yan; http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:30] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:30] <hunger> john_: Read the man page for mount. (man mount in the terminal).
[10:30] <ITSa341> <-- seconds that motion marc_
[10:30] <marc_> lol :)
[10:30] <CFDev> hi
[10:30] <john_> hunger, every time I try to use root i get sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:30] <hunger> john_: You can either add a option for the password or use credentials.
[10:30] <john_> could that be cos of earlier network probs I had?
[10:31] <CFDev> i have a problem on my kubuntu system with ColdFusion installation
[10:31] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:31] <nalioth> john_: you shouldnt be trying to use root
[10:31] <y_o_u> no, at the bottom, it says "starting screen resolution", but then dissapears, nothing follows
[10:31] <sethk> john_, if you are using nis is would be
[10:31] <korptix\a> for the 5th fkn time
[10:31] <BlackEntity> Ok rebooting trying something I found at the wiki
[10:31] <john_> sudo I mean
[10:31] <pashaw> korptix\a,   spamming gets you ignored and then booted
[10:31] <marc_> Does anyone here use transgaming?  I deleted the .transgaming folder by accident
[10:31] <CFDev> how can i install compat-libstdc++
[10:31] <korptix\a> mate
[10:31] <john_> nis?
[10:31] <nalioth> korptix\a: i believe you want #windows
[10:31] <dabaR> CFDev: is coldfusion a development or web design tool?
[10:31] <korptix\a> u asked 5 times
[10:31] <korptix\a> cheers
[10:31] <marc_> I deleted its content rather
[10:31] <CFDev> i just need compat-libstdc++ on ubuntu
[10:31] <chucker> korptix\a, i would be very interested to know how your friend installed IIS on Linux
[10:31] <Zambba> korptix\a: I think Incredebly Insecure Shit isn't related to Ubuntu
[10:31] <conrad_> kovecses: to be clear(i want to know if i did something different) you copied and pasted the repos on kiryas webiste into gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <john_> well I have lost the ability to access my network config dialog ?
[10:31] <CFDev> there is a warning in installation
[10:31] <sethk> korptix\a, the question makes no sense.  it isn't in a file, it _is_ a file
[10:32] <john_> have something to do with networking died?
[10:32] <Kovecses> conrad_, yes i did
[10:32] <conrad_> kovecses: and then you sudo apt-get install tovid and presto?
[10:32] <CFDev> Warning: C++ compatibility pack
[10:32] <dabaR> korptix\a: ya, isn't iis a windows web server?
[10:32] <y_o_u> any idea on why it would just dissapear? its a clean install
[10:32] <CFDev> rpm --query compat-libstdc++
[10:32] <Kovecses> conrad_, well you need to have libdvdcss2 installed ...then yes apt-get install tovid will work
[10:32] <CFDev> but i want to install with apt-get
[10:32] <sethk> dabaR, it sure is.  And it that doesn't clue us, he said .htm instead of .html
[10:33] <chucker> y_o_u, does it work if you start it as root?
[10:33] <Fanskapet> ahh now it works.. all my scripts.
[10:33] <CFDev> i have searched cache but no such a file
[10:33] <sethk> dabaR, crippled windows syntax
[10:33] <conrad_> kovecses: livdvdcss2 i have already installed. Did you copy and paste both lines of kirya's?
[10:33] <john_> there is definitely something wrong with my networking can I repair or do I need to reinstall?
[10:33] <Fanskapet> nice to have gentoo start my irssi-client on a screen at boot :)
[10:33] <Kovecses> conrad_, yeah but you should not need the src
[10:34] <CFDev> compat-libstdc++ on ubuntu?
[10:34] <y_o_u> that would probably be the reason. as i said, i am a linux noob. how do i specifically start it in root, or logout and then login as root?
[10:34] <dabaR> CFDev: do you need a compat-libstdc++ or a libstdc++?
[10:34] <alan__> the drive i have to add is called hdb2
[10:34] <hunger> CFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some old version of libstdc++.
[10:34] <CFDev> dabaR: it says i need to install  compat-libstdc++
[10:34] <Kovecses> conrad_, and use the command line... syaptic is for pussies
[10:34] <CFDev> i have already libstdc++6
[10:34] <hunger> CFDev: Figure out which one you need and install it.
[10:34] <nalioth> y_o_u: you dont use root at all
[10:35] <dabaR> CFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ in a terminal or use synaptic
[10:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell y_o_u about root
[10:35] <CFDev> but there is no  compat-libstdc++
[10:35] <conrad_> kovecses: should : deb http://packages.kirya.net unstable main contrib non-free - be enough. I am a pussy! : )
[10:35] <marc_> ITSa341, do you have Transgaming?
[10:35] <hunger> CFDev: libstdc++6 is the newest one...
[10:35] <CFDev> i need  compat-libstdc++
[10:35] <CFDev> but how?
[10:35] <Kovecses> conrad_, didnt i already answer that question
[10:35] <pinkisntwell> has anyone had problems with dpms in ubuntu?
[10:35] <Kovecses> conrad_, but yes it should be
[10:36] <Arasmpc> Hi, i'm having trouble with firefox on my work website...I want to view my schedule but it keeps saying the certificate is expired.  Can anyone help me?
[10:36] <CFDev> ah i have installed ubuntu in server mode
[10:36] <hunger> CFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some outdated version of libstdc++. Which one of the outdated versions do you need?
[10:36] <CFDev> not full installation
[10:36] <nalioth> Arasmpc: you should be able to click through the warning
[10:36] <CFDev> here is the error msg: The installer was unable to determine if the C++ compatibility pack is
[10:36] <CFDev> installed by running the following command: rpm --query compat-libstdc++
[10:36] <CFDev> If this machine uses a version of glibc that is 2.2.5.x or higher the
[10:36] <CFDev> compatibility pack is necessary for C++ custom tags, Verity, and web server
[10:36] <CFDev> connectors to work properly.
[10:36] <hunger> CFDev: Which program does need that lib?
[10:36] <crimsun> !tell owner about repos
[10:37] <CFDev> ColdFusion verity support
[10:37] <Arasmpc> I do but then it gives me an error.
[10:37] <pashaw> CFDev,   Dont do that again use pastebin
[10:37] <CFDev> sorry
[10:37] <CFDev> i just want to show the error msg
[10:37] <CFDev> i just need to have compat-libstdc++
[10:37] <pashaw> !tell CFDev about pastebin
[10:37] <CFDev> upps
[10:38] <conrad_> kovecses: can i send you the error
[10:38] <indrek> hey  i hav a question
[10:38] <gnomefreak_away> alt+F2 during install will it give me ther errors or will i have to type something to see the errors?
[10:38] <marc_> Does anyone here use Cedega?  I lost the contents of my .transgaming folder
[10:38] <Kovecses> conrad_, sure
[10:38] <conrad_> kovecses: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.kirya.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.kirya.net_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:38] <hunger> CFDev: Dunno whether there are still those really ancient versions of glibc around in ubuntu...
[10:39] <dabaR> !cedega
[10:39] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[10:39] <nalioth> CFDev: please read the /topic and use a pastebin
[10:39] <marc_> !cedega
[10:39] <CFDev> the other question is about XLib support. I just need to have X libraries without installing all X Windows
[10:39] <Kovecses> conrad_, you didnt apt-get update
[10:39] <conrad_> aha
[10:39] <yahaa_swe> OMG, the folks in the #windows channel is easily teased :D
[10:39] <CFDev> this is my firs time here. really sorry!
[10:39] <Kovecses> noobs
[10:39] <nalioth> conrad_: you are using non official repos. this may cause your ubuntu to stop functioning properly
[10:39] <nalioth> Kovecses: please be civil.
[10:39] <concept10> What do you guys use to watch Quicktime 7 streaming giles
[10:39] <concept10> *files?
[10:39] <trappist> mplayer
[10:39] <Kovecses> nalioth, how was i not civil
[10:39] <Seveas> concept10, mplayer
[10:39] <conrad_> nalioth: but it is working for kovecses
[10:40] <CFDev> i thought that irc would be a better alternative for quick answer
[10:40] <nalioth> Kovecses: 'noobs' is derogatory
[10:40] <Kovecses> nalioth, oh come on
[10:40] <marc_> #cedega
[10:40] <marc_> whops
[10:40] <CFDev> but here is lots of conversation and i could not explain my problem
[10:40] <Seveas> Kovecses: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:40] <ompaul> Kovecses, have a look at the CoC
[10:40] <gnomefreak_away> !coc
[10:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, conduct is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:40] <gnomefreak_away> :)
[10:40] <dabaR> CFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ is the faster alternative
[10:40] <ompaul> Kovecses, Seveas just gave you a link
[10:41] <trappist> ack, I need to fix that definition
[10:41] <Kovecses> ive read the code of conduct..... doesnt seem to mention the word noob
[10:41] <y_o_u> what program do i need to run in 5.04 to change to screen res? when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. i know I can add "sudo" to run something in root, but what do i run? thanks
[10:41] <hunger> dabaR: He will need libc5... Haven't seen that around:-(
[10:41] <pashaw> CFDev,   this a clean Ubuntu install?
[10:41] <CFDev> i have two problem: 1. compat-libstdc++
[10:41] <CFDev> yeps but in server mode
[10:41] <gnomefreak_away> thanks ompaul  :)
[10:41] <Seveas> Kovecses, but it does mention being civil
[10:41] <CFDev> 2. xlibraries support without all xwindows
[10:41] <ompaul> Kovecses, it is an attitude of mind more than a This word good that word bad :)
[10:41] <superchode|fu> any known issues installing ubuntu on a VIA EPIA mini-atx board?
[10:41] <indrek> i cant listan to the music  whit  my linux
[10:41] <dabaR> CFDev: make sure you add all the possible repos. In the case you really like to find out about package availability through IRC, use /msg ubotu find keyword.
[10:41] <Kovecses> is that the word of the day
[10:41] <ITSa341> Anyone know of a program comparable to MS Streets and Trips with GPS support that will run on Linux??
[10:41] <ITSa341> I'm trying to go 100% MS free on this laptop but I use MS Streets and Trips daily
[10:41] <ZeroIRC> Hey, how do I setup Sendmail?
[10:41] <concept10> Quicktime 7 eats me up, mplayer, totem and vlc will not handle streams from Apple
[10:41] <john_> can anyone help please, when I log in to ubuntu I get this message: Could not look up internet address for ubuntu.
[10:41] <john_> This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
[10:41] <john_> It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
[10:41] <john_> ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[10:41] <trappist> ah, grammatical horror removed from the coc definition.
[10:42] <pashaw> CFDev,   ill have to try that sometime  why does it ask you to query using rpm
[10:42] <dabaR> !enter
[10:42] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:42] <conrad_> hey people can you please not throw the book at kavecses. He was the only one willing to help and i did not find him uncivil
[10:42] <nalioth> john_: please dont paste
[10:42] <superchode|fu> it's telling me the bios is messed and won't install, but memtest seems happy
[10:42] <Kovecses> i wast being disrespectful
[10:42] <CFDev> because ubuntu is not supported as default
[10:42] <alan__> how do you mount a harddrive that you know the name eg: hdb2 i see it but cant seem to mount it
[10:42] <Kovecses> i was kidding around
[10:42] <dabaR> Kovecses: move on.
[10:42] <conrad_> nalioth: are you the police?
[10:42] <CFDev> default support is for redhat and suse
[10:42] <CFDev> i am trying to install on a ubuntu server
[10:42] <pashaw> !tell john_ about pastebin
[10:42] <Kovecses> you guys are so anal
[10:42] <trappist> alan__: mkdir foo && sudo mount /dev/hdb2 foo
[10:42] <ompaul> Kovecses, lets get on with the game shall we
[10:42] <ompaul> ohh well too late
[10:42] <Seveas> ompaul, by all menas
[10:42] <alan__> thx trap
[10:42] <Seveas> means even
[10:42] <nalioth> Kovecses: ok. just please note that some words you may find simple and non insulting, there are some that might.
[10:43] <cowbud> is there a website where one can see what latest debs got accepted in to dapper? accepted/uploaded..
[10:43] <conrad_> is this the thought police here?
[10:43] <Seveas> cowbud, check the ubuntu-changes mailinglist
[10:43] <pashaw> CFDev,   install what?
[10:43] <Seveas> cowbud, or the accompanying RSS feed
[10:43] <dabaR> Kovecses: and just read the critic and move on. No unnecessary discussion, see how the channel is moving too fast already.
[10:43] <CFDev> coldfusion installation
[10:43] <cowbud> Seveas: thanks
[10:43] <CFDev> Macromedia ColdFusion
[10:43] <gerald-volt> how do I lock my desktop
[10:43] <ZeroIRC> Hello?
[10:43] <y_o_u> anyone here willing to help a noob with a screen res problem?
[10:43] <trappist> gerald-volt: xlock
[10:43] <alan__> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:43] <hunger> CFDev: compat-* usually referes to glibc2.2 (libc5). Ubuntu does not support that ancient piece of code AFAIK. I am afraid you are out of luck. But maybe someone else knows better then me.
[10:43] <pashaw> CFDev,     your question never said anything about that
[10:43] <Seveas> gerald-volt, system -> lock screen
[10:43] <Knowerrors> Is there any talk of making a hardware/setup center similar in function to Drakeconfig or Yast for Ubuntu in future?
[10:43] <trappist> !tell y_o_u about fixres
[10:44] <dabaR> hunger: there is a libstdc++5 in the repos.
[10:44] <nalioth> john_: i can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <pashaw> CFDev,   theres your problem not supported in Ubuntu    we cant fix it
[10:44] <CFDev> do you think installation of RPMS would be solution
[10:44] <Seveas> Knowerrors, fortunately not, Ubuntu is about making things work and not about users having to fumble around with it
[10:44] <trappist> CFDev: no
[10:44] <CFDev> i know i do not ask coldfusion part
[10:44] <y_o_u> thanks
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Can someone please help me?
[10:44] <CFDev> i just want to get help for a library
[10:44] <hunger> dabaR: Yes... but that is build against libc6... and thus won't work.
[10:44] <alan__> trappist it said i must specify filesystem type
[10:44] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: did you ask a question?
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Hey, how do I setup Sendmail?
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> yea
[10:45] <trappist> alan__: do you know what kind of filesystem is on that device?  usually mount can guess if it's a supported fs
[10:45] <Arasmpc> it says blah blah using ocsp - unauthorized request  someone at work said I needed to add a new certificate but she uses windows and IE so it's not the same.  I tried to go into the certificate manager but it only searches my computer not the web...
[10:45] <CFDev> how can i have compat-libstdc++ support on ubuntu
[10:45] <CFDev> that was the question
[10:45] <pashaw> CFDev,   they already told you its outdated which prob means not gunna happen
[10:45] <Seveas> ZeroIRC, hehe, read the documentation, seriously. sendmail is a beast :)
[10:45] <hunger> CFDev: The best (and probably least doable) solution would be to get the vendor of your software to rebuild it against recent libraries.
[10:45] <alan__> its a kbuntu install with lots of music
[10:45] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: however you want to. sudo dpkg-reconfigure sendmail
[10:45] <ZeroIRC> Is there a better smtp server?
[10:45] <Knowerrors> Seveas: thats an important feature, for the times when things just don't work auto or are not configured right, thats unfortunate
[10:45] <CFDev> you know this is not an opportunity now
[10:45] <Seveas> ZeroIRC, postfix, courier
[10:46] <CFDev> and this is a general problem
[10:46] <Vectra> como fao pra mudar minha senha do root????
[10:46] <Seveas> Vectra, this is an english channel
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Seveas, Which is better?
[10:46] <Knowerrors> at least for newbies who don't want to mess with CLI alot or editing text config files
[10:46] <CFDev> anyway you do not know this question
[10:46] <Vectra> ok
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: which version does it require?
[10:46] <CFDev> the other one
[10:46] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, have a look at postfix - it beats sendmail hands down
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> ok
[10:46] <Seveas> Vectra, #ubuntu-br for brazilian
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Thanks ompaul
[10:46] <CFDev> hoc can i install XLIBraries for graphing support for a J2EE server
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: you can install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 if it's looking for that.
[10:46] <indrek> enyone  who knows about ubantu linux  i hav  a quastion deemet:P
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Do I need to download it?
[10:46] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, unless you have tens of thousands of users
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: and which X libraries?
[10:47] <ompaul> and even then it is debatable
[10:47] <hunger> CFDev: apt-get install xlibs
[10:47] <koro> I have language set to spanish, locale set to es_AR.UTF-8 and i have the problem that filenames whith accents show up wrong either in shell or in the gnome file manager (the latter adds a message "invalid encoding" after the filename in those cases). What can I do about that?
[10:47] <ZeroIRC> ompaul, Do I need to download it, or does Ubuntu have it somewhere?
[10:47] <CFDev> i need xorg-x11-depreceated-libs
[10:47] <hunger> CFDev: That gives a fairly complete "xlibs" install... you might need to add others, but you should be set for the most things.
[10:47] <nem> ZeroIRC, get it via synaptic or apt-get if it's not installed
[10:47] <dabaR> koro: asked in #ubuntu-es?
[10:48] <koro> dabaR: yeah
[10:48] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, well you download it for ubuntu - it is on the CD also >>sudo apt-get install postfix<<
[10:48] <ZeroIRC> thanks nem
[10:48] <koro> no replies at all, i think i have more chances here, since this may be a problem with other languages probably
[10:48] <ZeroIRC> thanks alot you guys
[10:48] <CFDev> i just need xorg-x11-deprecated-libs
[10:48] <indrek> help   enyone  can i talk whit someone smart in  private ?
[10:48] <dabaR> and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales? you want the utf-8 version of your locale installed.
[10:49] <koro> yeah, i did that
[10:49] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:49] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:49] <Florob> koro: there was something about not using the .UTF-8 locales, but the ones without any extension which are also UTF-8 but IIRC
[10:49] <ompaul> indrek, read what ubotu said
[10:49] <kickseveasbutt> seveas: fuck you. Fascist anal thought police. Why do yo goddam shut people down for no reason? Some power trip you're on. Enjoy it while it lasts
[10:49] <CFDev> can i copy paste technote page here for error msg
[10:49] <CFDev> just url
[10:49] <CFDev> http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=b4818c0d
[10:49] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[10:49] <koro> Florob: i don't recall seeing those in locales, but i'll check
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> its the day of the bannings...
[10:50] <Seveas> yeah
[10:50] <Seveas> and apparently the day of the trolls too
[10:50] <Seveas> i thought they would be gone after christma
[10:50] <Seveas> s
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> oh well :-p
[10:50] <indrek> kurat kas keegi siin eestikeelt kaa rgib we
[10:50] <dabaR> haha.
[10:50] <crimsun> oh man, you missed last night, dennis
[10:50] <Florob> koro: maybe i just made it up, but I believe it myself ;)
[10:51] <hunger> CFDev: I'd strongly recommend using one of the OSes supported by marcomedia!
[10:51] <Seveas> indrek, please stick to english in here
[10:51] <Seveas> crimsun, that tone suggests that i didn't miss a thing :)
[10:51] <CFDev> thanks for your support on a ubuntu room :)
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> Ok, I did sudo apt-get install postfix and it said
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> postfix is already the newest version.
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:51] <crimsun> Seveas: hehe
[10:51] <koro> Florob: yeah, i only see UTF or ISO
[10:51] <CFDev> i have normally debian for all of my servers
[10:51] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: ya, it comes with ubuntu
[10:51] <CFDev> but this time i am just trying to install ubuntu
[10:51] <hunger> CFDev: Even though there support seems to suck (or why else are they requireing lots of compat/deprecated libs?).
[10:52] <ZeroIRC> So, how do I use it, or config it?
[10:52] <indrek> kindlasti ma rgin  siin inglise keeles mu l  abi vaja see linux ei saa sellega ju musa kuulata
[10:52] <CFDev> this is not because of macromedia this is because of VERITY which is a bundled search engine
[10:52] <koro> Florob: oh, curiously, when it lets me choose the default one, it does give the option "es_AR" without any extension
[10:52] <koro> i'm trying that
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, seems some of them got it a little wrong "it is the season to be trolled" seems to be the motto
[10:52] <hunger> CFDev: If you insist on using ubuntu, then grab the RPMS and check what they contain and install the proper ubuntu packages that provide that stuff.
[10:52] <dabaR> indrek: we do not understand that language at all. Please ask your question in english, we wil try to answer.
[10:52] <indrek> kas keegi oskab eesti keelt
[10:53] <indrek> i need hlp
[10:53] <Seveas> indrek, last time: stick to english
[10:53] <indrek> help
[10:53] <CFDev> so i am just trying to get a quick solution by asking here
[10:53] <dabaR> indrek: we need your question to help
[10:53] <Seveas> and just tell what you need help with
[10:53] <greenpenguin13> which langage us that ? :/
[10:53] <CFDev> of course i know i can check all these rpms etc.
[10:53] <dabaR> probably turkish.
[10:53] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, estonian I guess :)
[10:53] <ompaul> indrek, ask your question
[10:53] <kemik> hungarian ?
[10:53] <indrek> i cant listan to music
[10:53] <CFDev> Trkce?
[10:53] <kemik> or finnihs
[10:53] <dabaR> ya:) everyone has his idea.
[10:53] <hunger> CFDev: You won't. Nobody here knows how redhat packages its stuff...
[10:53] <kemik> finnish
[10:53] <Seveas> !tell indrek about mp3
[10:53] <dabaR> indrek: what, mp3 files?
[10:53] <MrMaDSeN> who wrote Lords of the rings.. the triology?
[10:53] <Arasmpc> :( yes I am a "noob" but if not I wouldn't need your help.  Ok I'll admit it I am an idiot and I bow to your greatness.  Now will you please help me?  I just want to be able to find out what time to go to work tommorrow.
[10:53] <trappist> MrMaDSeN: tolkien
[10:53] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, no offtopicness in here
[10:54] <CFDev> speak for yourself
[10:54] <trappist> and that
[10:54] <greenpenguin13> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <nem> ZeroIRC, you won't get around reading the postfix docs. configure via dpkg-reconfigure postfix i'd say.
[10:54] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what? did you ask a question?
[10:54] <CFDev> hunger: i think you need a hamburger
[10:54] <indrek> seveas  can i talk pivate?
[10:54] <ompaul> indrek, read the instrctions the bot send you
[10:54] <ZeroIRC> thanks
[10:54] <sethk> Arasmpc, I don't see a question from you
[10:54] <dabaR> indrek: just talk in here, we are all friends...
[10:54] <yahaa_swe> This one aint Linux specific but anyway; it is possible to set up a server when you have a dynamic ip?
[10:54] <pashaw> indrek,   language?
[10:54] <Arasmpc> yes, I was trying to findout how to get a new certificate
[10:54] <kemik> yahaa_swe:  yes
[10:54] <trappist> yahaa_swe: yes, check out dyndns.org
[10:54] <Seveas> Arasmpc, what kind of certificate?
[10:54] <cowbud> yahaa_swe: sure there are lots of dyn services..
[10:54] <dabaR> yahaa_swe: and ez-ipupdate
[10:55] <cowbud> no-ip.com
[10:55] <indrek> sorry i am estonian :P
[10:55] <Seveas> ha, I win :)
[10:55] <Arasmpc> I use a secure server to access my work info
[10:55] <yahaa_swe> ok, thx all!
[10:55] <gerald-volt> what program is good for downloading music
[10:55] <Arasmpc> it says my certificate is expired
[10:55] <CFDev> thanks for your help i will try also forums :)
[10:55] <dabaR> no need to be sorry cause you are estonian, just ask, and answer questions, and read the web pages you are referred to.
[10:55] <kemik> it looked like finnish.. estonia-n is sortof the same ;)
[10:55] <hunger> CFDev: The necessary stuff might be in ubuntu (but frankly I doubt it), but you won't find it without some pretty good knowledge of what is needed (i.e. what redhat packaged).
[10:55] <koro> Florob: heh, i don't know if it's an improvement... now instead of showing a "?" sign where an accented character is, it shows nothing :)
[10:55] <Seveas> Arasmpc, probably it says that the server certificate expired
[10:55] <CFDev> i have already explained but ...
[10:55] <CFDev> anyway...
[10:55] <Arasmpc> I tried to go into the manage certificates thing but it just searches my computer
[10:55] <Seveas> you should probably just ignore that erros
[10:55] <dabaR> Seveas: you win?
[10:55] <Arasmpc> yes seveas
[10:56] <Seveas> dabaR, I said estonian ;)
[10:56] <dabaR> ah, ya.
[10:56] <indrek> but  i kant lisen to the music in internet  at www.uno.ee  and  there are no sounds at all ..and speaker logo  has x onit
[10:56] <dabaR> well, you are closest to there.
[10:56] <Arasmpc> I click ok, but then it still gives me an error and then the site doesn't work
[10:56] <sethk> indrek, then unmute
[10:56] <dabaR> Arasmpc: that is not related to you, it is the server has an old certificate
[10:56] <Seveas> Arasmpc, what is the error then?
[10:56] <Florob> koro: maybe a font problem, but i have no idea how to solve this if I'm honest
[10:56] <gerald-volt> whats a good p2p program for mp3's
[10:56] <ompaul> yahaa_swe, yes but rules apply like the box must be on the internet or have its packets forwarded to there, search for "dnamic dns" for more info
[10:56] <dabaR> Arasmpc: tell the page when asking a question like that.
[10:56] <indrek> i cant thats the problem
[10:56] <Arasmpc> oh, but a girl at work said she had to change something but she uses IE
[10:56] <dabaR> gerald-volt: I like gtk-gnutella
[10:57] <Arasmpc> the page?
[10:57] <dabaR> Arasmpc: tell us the URL...
[10:57] <Arasmpc> oh hold on
[10:57] <Seveas> Arasmpc, please give some real info like the complete error or screenshots of the errors you get
[10:57] <jordo23> gerald-volt: I use azureus to download full albums
[10:57] <dabaR> indrek: not all pages work in GNU/Linux cause of stupid ideas to use stupid technology by the web site creators.
[10:58] <Seveas> s!GNU/Linux!non-ie browsers!
[10:58] <trappist> well there are also linux-specific issues, like shockwave
[10:58] <hunger> dabaR: BUt now that Microsoft is after the web develeopers to not do that since it breaks their new IE things will improve:-)
[10:58] <niffe> how do i remove firefox deer park?
[10:59] <Seveas> niffe, make uninstall
[10:59] <trappist> niffe: how did you install it
[10:59] <indrek> but my computer dosn't make a sound at all
[10:59] <Seveas> niffe, tip: if you don't know how to remove things, don't install them.
[11:00] <Arasmpc> it says psnwb200.jcpenney.com using ocsp - unauthorized request.
[11:00] <Arasmpc> I don't know how to do a screenshot...sorry
[11:00] <pashaw> indrek,  no sound  ignore webpage then     type lspci      find multimedia device
[11:00] <niffe> trappist: .deb
[11:00] <alan__> http://pastebin.com/480770  shows my drives and im trying to reover the files on hdb2   but i cant seem to access it
[11:00] <trappist> niffe: apt-get remove
[11:00] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what is the URL you type into the browser, is it that thing above?
[11:00] <hunger> alan__: hdb2 is an extended partition.
[11:01] <niffe> trappist: well, i tryed that, then i apt-get install firefox and again that deer park
[11:01] <Florob> indrek, maybe mixer-applet trys to control the wrong channel/soundcard?
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: That means it contains other partitions.
[11:01] <alan__> hunger which of those partions has the info?
[11:01] <trappist> niffe: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox* and try again
[11:01] <yahaa_swe> Follow up question; no-ip.com seems to be nice, anyone who have tested their free service?
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: Your data should be in hdb5.
[11:01] <indrek> and it  sayes     that  (deem i dont know hou to speak in english im estonian after all) but  it sayes that no devices were found if i klik the  speaker loggo
[11:01] <alan__> okay
[11:01] <alan__> thanks im trying
[11:01] <ara> can someone here help a very biginner (me) please?
[11:01] <Arasmpc> it used to say this Network Error (ssl_domain_invalid) but then I turned on ocsp
[11:01] <ZeroIRC> yahaa_swe, They are really good
[11:01] <dabaR> !helpme
[11:01] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: BUT that is a LVM volume... so that contains even more partitions...
[11:02] <Arasmpc> https://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp I access the page through this
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: Do "/etc/init.d/lvm" as root.
[11:02] <vaticano> how paint arroba? in consol???
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: That will create devices in /dev/mapper.
[11:02] <Florob> indrek: what does "aplay -l" tell you
[11:02] <do_while> hi
[11:02] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:02] <do_while> ?
[11:02] <Arasmpc> it turns into https://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: One of those should contain the actual data.
[11:02] <alan__> ... setting up...  etc  okay
[11:02] <yahaa_swe> ZeroIRC, ok think i gonna try them
[11:02] <pashaw> indrek,  is your language closer to any of these  middle of page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[11:03] <alan__> hunger how can i check now?
[11:03] <alan__> thx for the help btw
[11:03] <hunger> alan__: "lvdisplay" gives a list of logical volumes.
[11:03] <Arasmpc> then this https://pshrwb200.jcpenney.com:7401/psp/hcm/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/h/?tab=DEFAULT
[11:03] <hunger> alan__: Figure out which one could contain your data.
[11:03] <Arasmpc> so the url changes
[11:04] <indrek> deem  quess im going to install windows again  linux is nt  for mee nothing in it  does not work
[11:04] <alan__> http://pastebin.com/480778  is what it said
[11:04] <alan__> okay
[11:04] <pashaw> indrek,   good luck
[11:04] <dabaR> Arasmpc: it is some asp m$ thing, I do not know, I know I can not access my paycheck site on browsers other than IE.
[11:04] <Arasmpc> of course they don't have any support and NOONE at work knows anything at all
[11:04] <do_while> hi
[11:04] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:04] <do_while> ?
[11:04] <sophtpaw> anyone help me with mplayer? apt-get couldn't resolve dependency issues. any suggestions?
[11:05] <dabaR> indrek: try to find a local linux user group to ask them questions.
[11:05] <sagarp> i got a new 250gb sata drive..previously i had a 160gb..130 for storage (fat32) and 30 for linux..does anyone have any suggestions how i should partition the new one together with the old one? i'd rather not have to span my storage across the two drives..=/ and i dont want to waste any space!
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: I'd go for /dev/Ubuntu/root.
[11:05] <Arasmpc> darn...so there is no way to find a new certificate then?
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: Do you know which filesystem was used?
[11:05] <alan__> hunger do i mount that?
[11:05] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what is the exact message you get?
[11:05] <alan__> im not sure
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: Try "mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir"
[11:05] <dabaR> Arasmpc: dont paste here if it is long, please.
[11:05] <indrek> never mind   im going  windows rules:P
[11:05] <Florob> sophtpaw, from which repository did you try to install it?
[11:05] <dontblink> hey, just installed ubuntu, and i get to the screen where it is loading devices/drivers, and it hangs at the hotplug subsystem
[11:05] <alan__> its a kbuntu linux partition
[11:05] <dabaR> heh
[11:06] <Arasmpc> ok hold on I'll do it again
[11:06] <dontblink> just leaves it blank and then gives me a black screen with a cursor at the top left
[11:06] <sophtpaw> Florob: i wouldn't know. i used synaptic.
[11:06] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac??
[11:06] <Knowerrors> Whats best program/way to backup my root partition to a dvd?
[11:06] <Arasmpc> Network Error (ssl_domain_invalid)
[11:06] <dabaR> dontblink: is that computer right beside you?
[11:06] <alan__> hunger do i actually type in some dir or use a real one?
[11:06] <hunger> alan__: It is most probably an ext3 filesystem then... use -o ro to mount it readonly (just to make sure you do not accidentally damage your data).
[11:06] <trappist> dontblink: it sounds like X is failing to start
[11:06] <dabaR> dontblink: hehe, I know why you have that nick now.
[11:06] <hunger> alan__: You use a real (and preferably empty) one.
[11:07] <gerald-volt> iin a config file where I have to specify a directory in quotes, how does the syntax go if my dir path has a space in it
[11:07] <dontblink> trappist: any solution?
[11:07] <Seveas> Arasmpc, that looks like something VERY specific to your work server, better assk the admins there
[11:07] <Florob> sophtpaw, so which dependancys could not be found?
[11:07] <trappist> dontblink: depends on the problem.  is this a new install? did you do something just before this started? etc.
[11:07] <dontblink> dabar: lol what are you talking about
[11:07] <gerald-volt> for example
[11:07] <gerald-volt> "/media/windows/Documents and Settings"
[11:07] <dabaR> gerald-volt: try blah\ and\ blah
[11:07] <trappist> gerald-volt: Documents\ and\ Settings
[11:07] <dontblink> trappist: um, new install, just d/l the latest version and burned it, then installed (i had the setup format the drive for me)
[11:08] <Arasmpc> ok...thanks anyhow.  Maybe I can get it fixed tommorrow when my hubby has time.  Again thank you for your time.
[11:08] <dabaR> is that computer beside you, dontblink ?
[11:08] <hunger> alan__: Does it work?
[11:08] <dabaR> welcome.
[11:08] <trappist> dontblink: step 1: choose failsafe at the grub prompt
[11:08] <ara> can someone do instant chat to me please? i have some questions
[11:08] <dontblink> dabar:yeah, lol
[11:08] <trappist> dontblink: so at least you'll have a usable console
[11:08] <sophtpaw> Florob: libribidi0; libgcc1;  libjack0
[11:08] <niffe> trappist: no help :/ but when im removing it with apt-get it says Removing firefox ...
[11:08] <Florob> sophtpaw: BTW if you used synaptic, why is it apt-get that can't resolve the dependancy issues
[11:08] <niffe> find: warning: you have specified the -depth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-depth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments. and when i type firefox in the console, it starts the deerpark edition
[11:08] <trappist> ara: nobody's going to volunteer to help you in private without even knowing the problem
[11:08] <sophtpaw> libstdc++6  ftoo
[11:08] <pashaw> ara,   ask here it may help other people
[11:08] <dabaR> dontblink: well, ya, then do alt+ctrl+f1.
[11:08] <dontblink> trappist: alright, working on it....
[11:09] <dontblink> dabar: then that gets you a console
[11:09] <alan__> hunger not yet keeps saying erron for mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir
[11:09] <dabaR> dontblink: it does? then you have to install the drivers for your ati/nvidia.
[11:09] <sophtpaw> florob: same thing isn't it? I understand syanptic simply to be the front end (gui) for apt-get. Have i got that wrong?
[11:09] <hunger> alan__: What kind of error?
[11:09] <dabaR> wtheck is up with there beign 2 graphs card manufacturers?
[11:09] <odat> any opinions about xine vs VLC ?
[11:09] <dabaR> I mean, only 2.
[11:09] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:09] <do_while> ?
[11:09] <trappist> dabaR: there's more than two
[11:09] <dabaR> ya?
[11:10] <trappist> dabaR: a lot more
[11:10] <dabaR> do_while: ask your question.
[11:10] <ara> i'm trying to install a software, on the terminal window it says "permission denied" and when i use "Sudo" command it says command to found, what should i do?
[11:10] <dabaR> trappist: I mean, for a non-onboard graphs card.
[11:10] <alan__> hunger  http://pastebin.com/480786
[11:10] <dontblink> trappist:okay, got the ctrl+alt+f1 thing...am i in the right place?
[11:10] <Florob> sophtpaw: well they seem to use the same library or something, but actually I have no idea about there inner working, but apt-get is defnitly not equal synaptic
[11:10] <dabaR> ara: it is sudo, not Sudo
[11:10] <dabaR> dontblink: what is the graphs card you have?
[11:10] <trappist> dontblink: if that got you to a console login, yes
[11:10] <ara> that's what i type
[11:10] <pashaw> ara,    what software using what command
[11:11] <sophtpaw> florob: well neither can install mplayer
[11:11] <alan__> hunger when i do ext3 on that command it agve no error
[11:11] <dabaR> sophtpaw: did you add multiverse?
[11:11] <ara> what software i'm trying to install you mean?
[11:11] <dabaR> !mplayer
[11:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:11] <dontblink> dabar:i dont really know, some old 32mb one just testing ubuntu out
[11:11] <hunger> alan__: Good. Do you see your files in /some/dir now?
[11:11] <alan__> hunger thanks alot
[11:11] <do_while> dabaR gnome it's biggest than monitor
[11:11] <dabaR> dontblink: well, find out.
[11:11] <do_while> i not see complety menu bar
[11:11] <hunger> alan__: You are welcome.
[11:11] <dabaR> do_while: what, your resolution?
[11:11] <Florob> sophtpaw, did you add anything to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:11] <alan__> yes !!  but now can i see them in konqueror as well?
[11:12] <pashaw> ara,   yes
[11:12] <do_while> 1280
[11:12] <sophtpaw> dabaR: as far as i know i've got everything jacked up. including multiverse, yes
[11:12] <ara> i'm trying to do real player
[11:12] <trappist> dabaR: check out matrox
[11:12] <dabaR> do_while: well, then, adjust your monitor for one, and for two, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:12] <odat> xine vs vlc?  trying to decide
[11:12] <dontblink> trappist:i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and the screen changed, and it proceeded to run through the processes/drivers loading again
[11:12] <sophtpaw> florob: yes, but i've removed it
[11:12] <hunger> alan__: This logical volume management thingy is really cool sometimes, even though I bet it confused the hell out of you today;-) Don't give up on it.
[11:12] <pashaw> !tell ara about realplayer
[11:12] <do_while> thanks dabaR
[11:12] <dabaR> sophtpaw: then "aptitude search mplayer"
[11:12] <trappist> dontblink: try ctrl-alt-f2
[11:13] <Florob> sophtpaw: could you put it in the pastebin
[11:13] <dontblink> trappist:will do.
[11:13] <dabaR> sophtpaw: if it returns results, install the one for your computer, and if it does not, then add multiverse.
[11:13] <dontblink> trappist:ctrl-alt-f2 does nothing
[11:13] <alan__> hunger im very thankful.. im just wondering do i need to move the files i now see in command line or can i get konqueror to mount that drive?
[11:14] <dabaR> alan__: konqueror will do if you will copy the files. to move, you would have to use sudo, or a graphical front-end equal
[11:14] <hunger> alan__: Point konqueror to /some/dir
[11:14] <odat> anyone?
[11:14] <hunger> alan__: That should give you the list of files right now.
[11:14] <alan__> ok i'll try
[11:15] <hunger> alan__: Or do you want access to those files permanently?
[11:15] <pashaw> odat,   i have bith
[11:15] <alan__> yes i want to move them onto my harddrive
[11:15] <dabaR> odat: your question is not good. SOme people like this some that, that is why both those programs exist. Noqw go try one, and then try the other, and come tell us which one you should have chosen.
[11:15] <pashaw> odat,   err both installed
[11:15] <dabaR> alan__: copying will do, really. you have no need for moving them.
[11:16] <john_> anyone know how to add ubuntu to the /etc/hosts file?
[11:16] <alan__> whats the copy directory ?
[11:16] <alan__> command
[11:16] <hunger> alan__: cp
[11:16] <odat> dabaR, k i have vlc installed and i like it but if i try to install xine it wants to uninstall gstreamer and well i want to keep it i think that is why i came here because if xine is a lot better than i'll check it out  its called opinions and i was looking for some sheesh
[11:17] <Florob> john_, have you tried adding it to the /etc/hosts file?
[11:17] <john_> how do I add it tho?
[11:17] <john_> what do I add?
[11:17] <hunger> john_ Is there a line starting with 127.0.0.1?
[11:17] <john_> the word "ubuntu"?
[11:17] <sophtpaw> florob: thank you
[11:17] <pashaw> john_,   huh?   127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost  is your ubuntu
[11:17] <john_> no there is northing
[11:17] <sophtpaw> dabaR: thank you
[11:17] <sophtpaw> thanks guys
[11:18] <alan__> whats the paste command for after?
[11:18] <john_> the only line I have is # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[11:18] <hunger> johnm: Add a line reading "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" then.
[11:18] <pashaw> john_,    type  cat /etc/hosts      first line
[11:18] <Florob> soptpaw, so how did you solve your problem?
[11:18] <dontblink> Are there any typical reasons for it to hang at the Hotplug Subsystem loading?
[11:19] <john_> pashaw, is that it, is the word ubuntu not int here at all?
[11:19] <dabaR> alan__: "man cp" use konqueror, and browse to the folder where you mounted the drive.
[11:19] <ElitePete> i notice in Gparted i have a partition /dev/sda2/ it's "extended" what does this mean exactly?
[11:19] <tata> hola
[11:19] <dabaR> hola tata
[11:19] <pashaw> john_,   did you "name" your computer ubuntu  or a diff name
[11:19] <tata> tata
[11:19] <trappist> dontblink: do you have any notable devices plugged into, say, a usb slot that it could be hanging up on?
[11:19] <john_> ubuntu i believe
[11:19] <hunger> ElitePete: HDs in DOS were limited to 4 partitions.
[11:19] <Florob> john_, which pc do you want to add to your hosts file exactly? and what does that have to do with ubuntu
[11:20] <pashaw> john_,    what word it at the END of the first line  thats what you named your computer
[11:20] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after closing down suddenly some programs
[11:20] <ElitePete> hunger, ?
[11:20] <dabaR> Seveas: it was you all the time? I had no idea, the z was tricky...
[11:20] <john_> pashaw, so  cat /etc/hosts on the first line and 127....etc on the 2nd line?
[11:20] <hunger> ElitePete: To get around that limit "extended" partitions were invented: They can contain additional partiotions.
[11:20] <dontblink> trappist:no, unfortunately.  I have a pci and an onboard video, although the latter is disabled.  Could that be the problem?
[11:20] <Seveas> dabaR, yes, all 5 seconds :)
[11:20] <ElitePete> hunger, ahh i want to add a partition for storing some things, how do i do this in gparted ?
[11:20] <trappist> dontblink: I wouldn't think so, but it's not impossible
[11:20] <dabaR> Pygi: welcome
[11:20] <john_> pashaw, so change localhost to ubuntu?
[11:20] <pashaw> john_,   make the window  full screen  to read it bettwer
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   dont change anything
[11:21] <john_> it is
[11:21] <john_> ok
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   what are you trying to do
[11:21] <john_> i added the two lines
[11:21] <hunger> ElitePete: Never used gparted. If you want more then 4 partiotions then one hof the first 4 has to be extended though.
[11:21] <john_> trying to stop the message saying it cant find ubuntu in the /etc/hosts file
[11:21] <Pygi> dabaR: thanks
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   huh?  did you erase your original hosts file?
[11:21] <john_> well i didn't somehow its gona
[11:21] <ElitePete> hunger, it says i have /dev/sda1/ which is the bootable, a linux swap and the extended now
[11:21] <hunger> ElitePete: sda5 to whatever are stored "in" the extended one.
[11:21] <john_> well the file hasnt but the contents have
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   lol  ok   1 sec
[11:22] <john_> strange how my config dialog for networking has gone too
[11:22] <john_> pashaw, i swear I never touched it! I just booted and got that message after messing about in the gnome network config
[11:22] <pashaw> john_,   127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <putername>      <-only required line
[11:22] <dontblink> trappist:Any other advice?  The ctrl-alt-f2 thing didn't do anything, and as I said ctrl-alt-f1 changes the screen, but the processes keep loading.
[11:22] <hunger> ElitePete: You could delete the extended one then and add one more "normal" partition or you can add a sda5 inside the extended one.
[11:23] <ElitePete> hunger, when i click the extended one, i have no options
[11:23] <pashaw> john_,   edit the <putername>  to your choice
[11:23] <john_> ok
[11:23] <hunger> ElitePete: Assuming there is no sdaX with X >= 4.
[11:23] <ElitePete> hunger, i think not.
[11:23] <sagarp> how can i use the latest version of reiserfs if i have a breezy install disk??
[11:23] <hunger> ElitePete: I have never used gparted, sorry.
[11:24] <john_> pashaq, do I still want the cat line u gave me as the 1st line or do I have that line as 1st?
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, what do you use?
[11:24] <hunger> ElitePete: When partitioning I need full control (== fdisk) ;-)
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, i see i am not advanced enough for that
[11:24] <hunger> ElitePete: No GUI, just plain track numbers;-)
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, lol, i would die
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, i really would like to add a partition for downloads, can you help me?
[11:24] <pashaw> ElitePete,   resizing or partitoning?
[11:25] <nalioth> john_: as long as you have 127.0.0.1 and 'ubuntu' in the same line, you'll be fine (don't remove anything that's there)
[11:25] <ElitePete> pashaw, i have alot of free space, i want a seperate filesystem for downloads, so incase of system failure etc.
[11:25] <flodine> anyone ever use pekwm on breezy?
[11:25] <pashaw> ElitePete,   try cfdisk   easier
[11:25] <hunger> ElitePete: That has nothing to do with "advanced". I consider gparted more advanced then fdisk...
[11:25] <john_> nalioth, theres nowt there mate lol
[11:25] <sethk> ElitePete, that makes no sense
[11:25] <yahaa_swe> If I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use on startup?
[11:25] <john_> nalioth, I think I remember how I did it but I wont day cos its stupid
[11:25] <john_> schoolboy error
[11:25] <hunger> ElitePete: It is just that I have always used fdisk... and never got round to this newfangled stuff;-)
[11:26] <ElitePete> hunger, lol
[11:26] <ElitePete> pashaw, cfdisk ?
[11:26] <hunger> ElitePete: Is there still unpartitioned space on your HD?
[11:26] <pashaw> ElitePete,   boot linux  login type  sudo cfdisk /dev/???
[11:26] <ElitePete> hunger, no, it's all been allocated
[11:27] <ElitePete> into /dev/sda1/ mostly
[11:27] <hunger> ElitePete: Then this is tricky:-)
[11:27] <john_> how do I save in nano?
[11:27] <hunger> ElitePete: Whatever you do: MAKE BACKUPS!
[11:27] <ElitePete> hunger, i guess ill just forget about it
[11:27] <nalioth> john_: ctrl-o <enter>  saves ctrl-x closess
[11:27] <pashaw> john_,   what cat line       john  i ment for you to type in a terminal >   cat /etc/hosts    <-- thats your hosts file
[11:27] <Pygi> hunger: cfdisk only resizes partitions, but not filesystems...
[11:28] <john_> permission denied?
[11:28] <Pygi> john: sudo ....
[11:28] <john_> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[11:28] <yahaa_swe> If I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use?
[11:28] <pashaw> john_,   you dont need sudo you cat that file
[11:29] <nalioth> john_: you have to reboot into rescue mode
[11:29] <hunger> ElitePete: You might want to look into LVM. That makes managing drives so much easier in the long run.
[11:29] <john_> whats cat?
[11:29] <ElitePete> hunger, LVM ?
[11:29] <pashaw> john_,   its like  show me   inside
[11:29] <hunger> ElitePete: Logical Volume Management.
[11:29] <john_> ok so how do I edit it
[11:29] <ElitePete> hunger, is that in apt-get ?
[11:29] <john_> cant save it no permission
[11:29] <john_> and cant sudo as there is no host
[11:29] <john_> catch 22
[11:29] <pashaw> john_,   follow nalioths advice
[11:29] <john_> need to do it from recovery?
[11:30] <john_> ok
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: Basically a abstraction of harddrives.
[11:30] <niffe> how i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?
[11:30] <john_> so do I need all the spaces after 127.0.0.1
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: It even is in the default install:-)
[11:30] <ElitePete> hunger, do i want to do lvcreate ? a logical volume
[11:30] <pashaw> hunger,    thats not beginner level
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: It is not that easy...
[11:31] <pashaw> hunger,   hes scared of fdisk    lvm  not rdy
[11:31] <ElitePete> hunger, i want something like partition magic, ez and graphical :-)
[11:31] <hunger> ElitePete: LVs are basically "virtual" partitions.
[11:31] <Moeen> Anybody tried resize_reiserfs ? is it safe ?
[11:31] <ElitePete> i need partition magic :-)
[11:31] <newbus> testing
[11:31] <pashaw> ElitePete,     try cfdisk     quit if you get scarfed
[11:31] <ElitePete> pashaw, scared already
[11:31] <pashaw> ElitePete,   ack  my typing  *scared
[11:31] <hunger> ElitePete: Then LVM is not for you. It just helps to rearrange stuff inside LVM.
[11:32] <ElitePete> pashaw, ill just buy another HD for backups i suppose
[11:32] <Knowerrors> If I move my /home to another partition, what do I need to edit to tell ubuntu where to look for it? just fstab? or is this more involved?
[11:32] <rem_> you guys are the elite of computer nerds
[11:32] <pashaw> ElitePete,    try cfdisk  its much easier to read than fdisk    fdisk is ole faithful tho
[11:32] <Moeen> ElitePete, I have some experience that Partition Magic destroyed some of Datas. becareful about it, and it's better to not use it at all
[11:32] <rem_> oops...wif got her hands on my kb .. :P
[11:32] <hunger> ElitePete: It does not change the partitioning of your drives. It just grabs some partitions on them and turns them into "virtual drives" that you can group, rearrange and partition.
[11:32] <Florob> did i overlook the argument for not using gparted?
[11:33] <ElitePete> hunger, when i had XP i had 4 partitions, 1 for C:/system 1 for storage, 1 for music etc
[11:33] <pashaw> Knowerrors,  fstab entry for sure
[11:33] <mcjerry> Elitepete : partition magic is not as reliable as paragons 7tools partition manager
[11:34] <hunger> ElitePete: What keeps you from doing something similar in linux?
[11:34] <ElitePete> hunger, the fear
[11:34] <hunger> ElitePete: I have more then 10 partitions:-)
[11:34] <ElitePete> hunger, of having to reinstall ubuntu and set everything up again
[11:35] <hunger> ElitePete: Oh... that fear can be combated with backups.
[11:35] <Knowerrors> pashaw: anything else?  Im wanting to make a seperate partition for all my media files, and move my /home with all settings to a smaller partition
[11:35] <arnold> how do i update the gfx driver? my card is an:Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[11:35] <arnold> it is an acer laptop
[11:35] <arnold> anybody got the same card?
[11:36] <koro> Anyone knows how to get console to display properly accents?
[11:36] <niffe> how i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?
[11:36] <Knowerrors> pashaw: nevermind, I'll just make a seperate /home/media folder, and keep /home/user untouched
[11:36] <pashaw> Knowerrors,   easy im not fast   here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46866
[11:36] <Florob> niffe, how did you install deer park
[11:37] <hunger> ElitePete: And if you ever decide to repartition create one small partition for /boot and the rest goes into one or more partitions of type "Linux LVM".
[11:37] <visik7> how can I remove totem plugin from firefox ?
[11:37] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly
[11:38] <ElitePete> hunger, i wish you lived near me to show me how :-)
[11:38] <arnold> anybody??
[11:38] <koro> How do I set the default application used to play muisic, videos, etc?
[11:38] <hunger> ElitePete: The ubuntu installer does all the heavy lifting for you:-)
[11:38] <ElitePete> koro, right click the type and select "opens with"
[11:39] <koro> thanks
[11:39] <hunger> ElitePete: It does handle LVM. There are HOWTOs for it as well.
[11:39] <ElitePete> hunger, too bad i'm a strong guy not a technical guy :-P
[11:39] <niffe> Florob: from deb file
[11:39] <mcjerry> visik7 in synaptic do a complete removal of totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[11:40] <Florob> visik7, you have to completely uninstall totem-gstreamer (which also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop) or find out where the plugin file is stored and move it away
[11:40] <hunger> ElitePete: I am reinstalling to a new HD right now:-)
[11:40] <ElitePete> hunger,  :-P
[11:40] <Florob> niffe: start aptitude and look for a firefox in the obsoltet packages section, remove that one
[11:41] <hunger> ElitePete: Well, reinstalling is too much... Copying files over to my new disk.
[11:41] <niffe> Florob: aptitude? ;p
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, when dapper comes out am i going to lose everything?
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, because i'll definently want to upgrade
[11:41] <hunger> ElitePete: Nope. You just dist-upgrade.
[11:41] <gnomefreak_away> during install if you get errors i was told to press alt+F2 will that give me full error list? or do i need a command to see the errors?
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, :-)
[11:42] <ElitePete> hunger, i moved to linux because i was tired of reinstalling XP monthly due to bullsh!t
[11:42] <arnold> anybody? the card is an Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[11:42] <hunger> ElitePete: I have not reinstalled in a couple of years now...
[11:42] <ScootaDoota> should be built into Xfree86
[11:42] <gnomefreak_away> good choice ElitePete
[11:42] <ElitePete> gnomefreak_away, thanks
[11:42] <ElitePete> im loving ubuntu
[11:43] <Florob> niffe: well, maybe synaptic has such a section, too
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, they will be there in all their glory and if you want to scroll back a screen this may work hit scroll lock and press page up
[11:43] <edy_123> hola
[11:43] <alan__> hunger i got disconnected could u please tell me that command to mount /dev/Ubuntu/root ?   it didnt stay in the console memory
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, did anyone tell you you that you were not away :)
[11:43] <hunger> ElitePete: this box started out as a debian/unstable a couple of years back... which I kept updating till today (dapper).
[11:43] <gnomefreak_away> ok ty ompaul
[11:43] <alan__> im sorry to be a pain
[11:43] <djtansey> has anyone here done a low-mem install of ubuntu?
[11:43] <hunger> alan__: mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, if you type /away Some Reason then anyone talking to you gets told that you are away and it does not create noise on the channels you are on :)
[11:44] <alan__> thx a lot
[11:44] <gnomefreak_away> lol yes but if i change back it will be useless :( im waiting for k3b to install so i can burn dapper again
[11:44] <ElitePete> hunger, whats the cmd to edit my repos?
[11:44] <ElitePete> hunger, oh your on dapper already.
[11:44] <hunger> ElitePete: I copied the data over form one HD to another whenever I got a new laptop in the meantime...
[11:44] <gnomefreak_away> cool thank ompaul  i didnt know that :)
[11:44] <ElitePete> whats the cmd to edit my repos list?
[11:44] <hunger> ElitePete: I use vi... but some gui thingy like does that too IIRC:
[11:45] <pashaw> arnold,   in terminal type  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf         find the "device" section for your graphics and tell us what "driver" it says your using
[11:45] <hunger> ElitePete: synaptic is one IIRC.
[11:45] <ElitePete> hunger i mean like
[11:45] <alan__> hunger if cp copys a folder or file what pastes it?
[11:45] <ElitePete> with sudo gedit
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> ElitePete, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sopources.list
[11:45] <ElitePete> gnomefreak_away, thanks
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> damn
[11:45] <hunger> alan__?
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> sources*
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> yw
[11:45] <arnold> i810
[11:45] <niffe> Florob: how can i uninstall it with aptitude? i pressed g and it says nothing will be removed or installed
[11:45] <nalioth> ElitePete: gksudo gedit. use gksudo to open gui gnome apps and kdesu to open kde apps as superuser. doing it otw can scramble your permissions
[11:45] <hunger> alan__: "cp fileA fileb" copies filea to fileb.
[11:45] <alan__> cp copies it but how to you put that copy somewhere?
[11:46] <alan__> ok
[11:46] <alan__> i see
[11:46] <hunger> alan__: There is no "Paste" on the commandline.
[11:46] <Enlil_Ishtar> hello
[11:46] <Florob> niffe, when the package is marked press "-" that press "g"
[11:46] <pashaw> arnold,   should be good   anything wrong?
[11:46] <mcjerry> alan__ cp <file to copy> <where to copy to>
[11:47] <hunger> alan__: cp might use the permissins, etc. Is that OK for your usecase?
[11:47] <arnold> I am trying to start a game called tribal trouble and i get an error: Could not create glx context
[11:47] <Pygi> arnold: install OpenGL
[11:48] <alan__> i cant steer konqueror there because i cant open it as root
[11:48] <Enlil_Ishtar> I've a big problem. When I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, the sound sometimes disappear, and I have to move on the track with the cursos if I want it to come back -- a few moments :/
[11:48] <Pygi> alan: use sudo
[11:48] <gui> boa noite
[11:48] <nalioth> alan__: type 'kdesu konqueror' DO NOT USE SUDO
[11:48] <pashaw> gui,   language?
[11:48] <djtansey> has anyone done a hd-media install of ubuntu?
[11:48] <gui> pt-br
[11:48] <nalioth> Pygi: using sudo to open gui apps will cause permission problems
[11:48] <nalioth> !br
[11:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[11:48] <hunger> nalioth: Please do not suggest doing that!
[11:49] <alan__> it says kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[11:49] <nalioth> hunger: excuse me?
[11:49] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly
[11:49] <Kumo> anybody?
[11:49] <arnold> But ive just tried tuxracer, it works fine. Dont it  use opengl??
[11:49] <Enlil_Ishtar> nobody can help me?
[11:49] <hunger> nalioth: Konqui is a monster that does even load other stuff. Running that as root is really suicidal IMHO.
[11:49] <arnold> how do i tjeck if it is installed??
[11:50] <nalioth> hunger: and running it as sudo is the worst way. using kdesu will preserve all your user permissions in place
[11:50] <niffe> Florob: it worked! thx
[11:50] <hunger> nalioth: Of course your suggestion should work... but it is definitly nothing root should use IMHO.
[11:51] <nalioth> Pygi: if you need to suggest someone open a gui app with superuser priveleges, advise them of gksudo for gnome apps and kdesu for kde apps
[11:51] <`Nomad> Hi.. Could someone help me with installing a Samsung Printer driver in Kubuntu, KDE 3.5?  I'm missing a simple permission issue with CUPS I think
[11:51] <`Nomad> I have a Samsung ML-2010 that comes with it's own drivers..  Using their install, I get prompted for an admin password while trying to add the printer.. I can't get that authentication accepted to continue.
[11:51] <UbuntuNewbie> I am having **so** much trouble trying to set up a dual-boot partition.  My primary boot partition is 200GB NTFS; supposing I want 20GB for Ubuntu -- can I safely resize the NTFS partition to 180 GB -- The NTFS partition is about 25% full with Windows stuff; I don't want to erase the Windows partition.  Is it possible to do this using the partition utility that came with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <`Nomad> I gave root a password, and also to cupsys which is what cupsd runs under
[11:51] <nalioth> hunger: thank you. you are correct. some users feel the need to have a superuser enabled gui program, and using gksudo or kdesu is the safer method to start those
[11:51] <`Nomad> but when I try those as teh admin names and password I get rejected
[11:52] <arnold> anything?
[11:52] <pashaw> UbuntuNewbie,   didnt you have a spare drive  use that one
[11:52] <Pygi> nalioth: yesh, yesh, I know....anyway, konquerer with superuser priveleges is not for anyone if you don't know what you are doin'
[11:52] <hunger> nalioth: So are you. Running them in kdesu is better then running them with sudo... but having to run them at all makes me feel itchy:-(
[11:53] <nalioth> Pygi: correct, but starting them with the correct commands will save a lot of trouble in the future
[11:53] <Pygi> nalioth: yup, true...
[11:53] <hunger> UbuntuNewbie: It should be possible... it should work... I wouldn't do it (without lots of backups).
[11:53] <arnold> pashaw?Got any ideas?
[11:53] <`Nomad> what is teh difference between kdesu and sudo?
[11:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell `Nomad about kdesu
[11:54] <`Nomad> oh wow, thanks!
[11:54] <hunger> See you later.
[11:54] <gnomefreak_away> ubotu knows kde stuff and not gksudo :(
[11:54] <ubotu> No idea, gnomefreak_away
[11:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gnomefreak_away about gksudo
[11:55] <UbuntuNewbie> I guess my question is -- if I want a 20 GB ubuntu partition -- do I size the drive to 20 GB or 180 GB  -- it defaulted to 200 GB (the NTFS partition, I mean)
[11:55] <gnomefreak_away> it didnt work for me :(
[11:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, I think ubotu is open to suggestions :)
[11:55] <gnomefreak_away> ty nalioth
[11:56] <alan__> hunger how do you unmount a mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root   ??
[11:56] <Pygi> hehe :)
[11:56] <pashaw> arnold, does glxgears run?
[11:56] <Pygi> alan: umount
[11:56] <tjb13> hey guys, is there like a wiki with a bunch of guides for setting up ati graphics, processor freq scaling, etc... is everything compiled into the kernel by default, i just came from gentoo so bear with me
[11:57] <trappist> tjb13: your video card and frequency scaling are disparate enough subjects that "etc." is hard to interpret.
[11:57] <GNULinuxGeek> Updated to Breezy but now cannot play DVDs using the computer.  Do I need to update something else?
[11:58] <arnold> Yes fine
[11:58] <pashaw> arnold,  my games system has nvidia card      not sure about your error then
[11:59] <UbuntuNewbie> my main gripe is the Wiki tends to be a bit vague....
[11:59] <pashaw> arnold,  could try forums or google for that game and your error
[11:59] <tjb13> trappist, well... how do i get power management stuff to work
[11:59] <tjb13> like frequency scaling and sleep
[11:59] <tjb13> ?
[11:59] <tjb13> thanks for your help btw
[11:59] <wizardjames> rar command (for vobsub compression)   what would i put or need to make this work?  the program i am useing right now has it set at    rar-2.80
[11:59] <pashaw> arnold,   your video driver seems fine tho
[11:59] <Unity> what is the difference between mozilla browser and firefox?
[11:59] <arnold> Ive tried, The only solution seems to be an update, but i am not sure how i do it
[11:59] <gnomefreak_away> UbuntuNewbie, i dont find most of them vague at all but im getting kind of used to reading them :)