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Lord_Athur | hi there | 12:26 |
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Lord_Athur | when a log onto the terminal a text is shown, | 12:27 |
Lord_Athur | it's about the NO WARRANTY of ubuntu | 12:28 |
Lord_Athur | can I change this text? | 12:28 |
Lord_Athur | can anybody help me? | 12:30 |
Lord_Athur | ogra_ibook, you're an ubuntu expert, can you help me? | 12:44 |
\sh | Lord_Athur: /etc/motd | 12:52 |
Lord_Athur | thanks | 12:52 |
Lord_Athur | \sh, with ubuntu 5.04, how can I delete mails (using the mail program of the terminal)? | 12:56 |
\sh | Lord_Athur: /join #ubuntu for support questions.. | 12:59 |
Lord_Athur | thanks for the idea \sh | 01:00 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 03:01 |
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lucasvo | hello everybody | 12:03 |
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writer | Hello! | 12:14 |
ulinskie | writer, hi there | 12:16 |
writer | Hi | 12:17 |
lucasvo | ogra_ibook: whare can I download the edubuntu dapper install cd for ppc? | 12:53 |
ogra_ibook | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-2/ | 12:59 |
lucasvo | yup, I've already found it | 01:00 |
lucasvo | thanks | 01:01 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 03:32 |
writer | Hi | 03:35 |
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Lord_Athur | hi mhz | 03:37 |
mhz | hi Lord_Athur | 03:38 |
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Lord_Athur | hi there | 04:08 |
Lord_Athur | who uses xfree86? | 04:08 |
Yagisan | no one anymore ... | 04:11 |
Lord_Athur | ok | 04:11 |
Yagisan | not since they committed suicide ^W^W mass re-licensed | 04:12 |
Yagisan | anyway | 04:12 |
Lord_Athur | :D | 04:12 |
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Lord_Athur | mhz, I've got an empy floppy | 04:24 |
Lord_Athur | what can be a good format to mount it? | 04:24 |
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Lord_Athur | jajjaa | 04:24 |
Lord_Athur | is there anyone with the information? | 04:25 |
Lord_Athur | mhz, I cannot use a CD for 3 kb | 04:25 |
Lord_Athur | xD | 04:25 |
Lord_Athur | and i need it for a pc without graphical enviroment | 04:25 |
mhz | cdrecord | 04:26 |
mhz | cdrecord --scanbus | 04:26 |
mhz | will give you the info you need for: | 04:26 |
Lord_Athur | a? | 04:26 |
Lord_Athur | what's that? | 04:26 |
Lord_Athur | ok | 04:26 |
mhz | cdrecord -v dev=X,Y,Z fs=16m speed=4 the_iso_file | 04:26 |
Yagisan | Lord_Athur: mount /medial/floppy -t vfat | 04:30 |
Yagisan | s/medial/media | 04:30 |
Yagisan | is that what you are looking for ? | 04:30 |
Lord_Athur | thanks Yagisan | 04:31 |
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hyperactivecrond | hello all | 04:31 |
mhz | Yagisan: I thought Lord_Athur wanted to burn a CD | 04:31 |
Lord_Athur | mhz, I don't want to do that | 04:32 |
Lord_Athur | I only want to mount a floppy | 04:32 |
Lord_Athur | xD | 04:32 |
Lord_Athur | but I must especify the file system | 04:32 |
Lord_Athur | Yagisan, the command that you gave me is wrong | 04:32 |
mhz | Lord_Athur mhz, I cannot use a CD for 3 kb | 04:32 |
mhz | Lord_Athur: you said that | 04:33 |
Lord_Athur | yes | 04:33 |
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Lord_Athur | I wanted to tell you that I only can use a floppy for this case | 04:33 |
Lord_Athur | and not a cd | 04:33 |
Lord_Athur | :D | 04:33 |
Yagisan | Lord_Athur: ok try this: mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /media/floppy | 04:33 |
Yagisan | Lord_Athur: make sure you have a /media/floppy directory | 04:34 |
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Yagisan | otherwise change to to somewhere else | 04:34 |
Lord_Athur | yes | 04:34 |
Lord_Athur | Yagisan, | 04:36 |
Lord_Athur | thanks i could do it | 04:36 |
Lord_Athur | I'll be back as soon as possible after repair my problem | 04:36 |
Lord_Athur | bye | 04:36 |
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mhz_idle | Yagisan: got a minute, gifted man? | 05:21 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: what do you need ? | 05:22 |
mhz_idle | as you know my main concern is old or less powerful hardware for edubuntu | 05:23 |
mhz_idle | so, I started working on customizing wmaker look until ogra mentioned that wmaker and fluxbox wouldn't suit freedesktop standards | 05:24 |
mhz_idle | then, | 05:24 |
mhz_idle | yesterday I had some time to play and test XFCE again | 05:24 |
Yagisan | yes - I have quite a bit of "old" hardware | 05:24 |
jsgotangco | lol i thought i read "wanker" | 05:25 |
jsgotangco | wmaker | 05:25 |
jsgotangco | haha | 05:25 |
mhz_idle | and met this guy in #xubuntu who has started a great cool project "DSS live" | 05:25 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: hehehehehe | 05:25 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: too much slack from holidays? | 05:25 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, ive been busy of late | 05:25 |
jsgotangco | with a side project | 05:25 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: this guy, 'nomed', has based his project on ubuntu but with many diff and used XFCE 90% free of GNOME libs dependency | 05:26 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: pet or side? | 05:26 |
jsgotangco | side | 05:27 |
jsgotangco | hopefully it gets done next year | 05:27 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: on? | 05:27 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: so I now wonder... | 05:27 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: if I want Edubuntu to be the cheapest on hardware consumption, which road should I take? | 05:28 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, you'll know in due time | 05:28 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: ubuntu does use lots of gnome | 05:28 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: grrhhh :) | 05:28 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, XFCE so at least you're gtk compatible | 05:28 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: at least a clue or category? | 05:29 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, it is docs related | 05:29 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: I am seriously considering XFCE mainly because of desktop standrards | 05:29 |
mhz_idle | but If my other cncern is lib dependencies... | 05:29 |
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jsgotangco | i like my desktop to be programmable =) | 05:30 |
mhz_idle | DSS live has gotten free of those, but then have also used too many diff resources ubuntu does use | 05:30 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: me too, I use fluxbox and wmaker only | 05:30 |
mhz_idle | but my concern has to be wider = students and schools | 05:31 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, but you're developing a solution now, your opinions rarely matter heh | 05:31 |
mhz_idle | with old cheap hardware | 05:31 |
mhz_idle | heheh | 05:31 |
mhz_idle | that's why i am using xcfe now | 05:31 |
jsgotangco | its a nice desktop but its not my cup of tea | 05:32 |
jsgotangco | i still like the logic of patterns and methods of gnome | 05:32 |
mhz_idle | my concern is how much speed or weight on resources will I gain by getting rid of GNOME dependencies | 05:32 |
mhz_idle | and how much I can get rid of? | 05:33 |
jsgotangco | hmmm | 05:33 |
mhz_idle | considering Ubuntu/Edubuntu is 100 GNOME | 05:33 |
jsgotangco | well yes | 05:33 |
jsgotangco | you'll probrably be grabbing the basic gtk tookits for starters | 05:33 |
jsgotangco | not necessarily gnome =) | 05:34 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: even if you switch to xfce, you'll still need cire gnome and kde libs for many applications | 05:34 |
Yagisan | s/cire/core | 05:34 |
jsgotangco | yes | 05:34 |
jsgotangco | especially for kedu | 05:34 |
mhz_idle | yup | 05:34 |
jsgotangco | you'll still have a leaner setup compared to full gnome | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | probably a few hundred MB less | 05:35 |
mhz_idle | and as I understand NOTHING about developing nor coding nor libs, I am totally clules about how to do this light-edubuntu | 05:35 |
mhz_idle | and make it a valid official option | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | i dont think that's possible for this cycle | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | too short | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | its january next year | 05:36 |
mhz_idle | AFAIK, DSS live is ubuntu but nomed says 'too tweaked' | 05:36 |
jsgotangco | its not well documented? | 05:36 |
mhz_idle | what? | 05:36 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: here is the catch - want to use those ubuntu apps like firefox - then you need the gtk libs | 05:36 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: want k3b - need the kde libs | 05:37 |
jsgotangco | Yagisan, k3b alone needs at least a 100MB worth of deps | 05:37 |
jsgotangco | heh | 05:37 |
Yagisan | jsgotangco: but in that case, k3b is worth it | 05:37 |
jsgotangco | (assuming you installed gnome) | 05:37 |
jsgotangco | sure it is | 05:38 |
jsgotangco | but getting 100MB over the network can be a shock | 05:38 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: the only feasible way to slim down ubuntu - without getting a major cflags change, is to carefully pick your applications | 05:38 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, you'll probably have to sacrifice the kde apps and focus on gtk | 05:39 |
Yagisan | jsgotangco: I'm shaped to 64k down now, I had to suck 250MB worth a while ago :( | 05:39 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: perhaps even sacrifice gtk apps depening on your target box | 05:40 |
jsgotangco | are you currently being abused by evil telstra? | 05:40 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, since youre targeting low-end systems, that's a good sacrifice (to remove the other apps) | 05:40 |
jsgotangco | but you'll have a limited app selection in the process | 05:41 |
jsgotangco | (unless there's a ton of edu apps on ncurses heh) | 05:41 |
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mhz_idle | :) | 05:41 |
Yagisan | jsgotangco: no, I went over my 20GB limit with tpg, trying to get something decent to watch for christmas O:-) | 05:41 |
jsgotangco | haha | 05:42 |
jsgotangco | i might fly to brisbane after the new year | 05:42 |
jsgotangco | and stay for a few weeks | 05:42 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: Yagisan:... what if I just made an edubuntu XFCE theme for our edubuntu cd.. will that be a start? will that be included in Dapper? | 05:43 |
jsgotangco | you can ask ogra to package it as a universe app i guess | 05:44 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: I think that would help, but first | 05:44 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: i mean , to be part of the shipped CD ;) | 05:44 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: I'd sit down with pen & paper and decide what apps I'd want to use | 05:45 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: my initial idea was to have same exact apps than edubuntu | 05:45 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, that wouldn't be useful at all, since XFCE isn't in the CD for starters | 05:46 |
mhz_idle | later on, I met the 'libs' issues | 05:46 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: then you need to trim the "fat" in other ways | 05:46 |
mhz_idle | trim = slim down? | 05:46 |
jsgotangco | (i dunno if XFCE got promoted to main,....) | 05:46 |
jsgotangco | maybe not | 05:46 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: yes | 05:46 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: actually it is to cut away | 05:47 |
mhz_idle | hehehe | 05:47 |
mhz_idle | .oO(english and its phrasal verbs!!!) | 05:47 |
mhz_idle | only native speakers can come up with them | 05:47 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: how far from edubuntu do you want to go ? | 05:48 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: we need to determine what is an acceptable loss for yoou | 05:49 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: as I only understood the need and not what it actually implies... I just realized old chilean hardware was not ideal for edubuntu as it currently is. So my main goal was to make it less expensive. | 05:49 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: are you planning a ltsp setup, or individual workstations ? | 05:50 |
mhz_idle | ltsp | 05:50 |
Yagisan | ok | 05:50 |
mhz_idle | or xmcdp | 05:50 |
mhz_idle | or any way I can set a semi-modern server and 10 or 20 workstations | 05:50 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: I'd drop all kde stuff, and see if I can get a gtk replacement if you need that a particular app | 05:50 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: what if I cut away FAT kde? | 05:51 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: xfce might be good - do you have a comparison to gnome ? | 05:51 |
mhz_idle | nope just yey because I am still in the process of learning about what i am getting into :D | 05:51 |
mhz_idle | when I started theming wmaker I knew that was lot faster than gnome | 05:52 |
mhz_idle | on every aspect | 05:52 |
mhz_idle | I have no clue how to compare xfce and gnome unless you are talking about using a timer ;) | 05:53 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, i wonder if its still edubuntu after shedding all that so called "fat" | 05:53 |
mhz_idle | exactly, thats my point | 05:53 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: which comes back to my question, how far from edubuntu do you want to go ? | 05:54 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: would KDE be lighter than GNOME ? (considering I will use educational apps in edubuntu) | 05:54 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: do you have a typical pc we can perform measurements on ? | 05:55 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: hmmm, i can't quite understand your question | 05:55 |
jsgotangco | unlikely KDE has its own voodoo way different from gnome | 05:55 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: I have gotten one, 600 MHz celeron, 128 MB ram, 20 GB | 05:55 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: how much edubuntu are you willing to remove, to achieve your goal ? | 05:56 |
mhz_idle | but i guess typical would be 96 RAM | 05:56 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: ok - and how many clients on a 96mb box ? | 05:56 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: my first idea was to have the option for scholl admins to choose Wmaker or XFCE over GNOME when installing Edubuntu Dapper. That was it. Now..... Now I feel lost so because Edubuntu is also suitable for about 35% of the Chilean schools | 05:57 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: so, answering your question today about 'how far' seems not clear to me. | 05:58 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: I could make school servers to be 1 GHz + 256 RAM (maybe, just maybe, 512 MB), 20 GB | 05:59 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: to determine how we can meet your target machine, I need to know how much I can remove, without you becoming unhappy | 05:59 |
mhz_idle | and most of clients would have 500 MHz, 48 or 64 MB of ram, 9 GB | 05:59 |
mhz_idle | heheheh | 06:00 |
jsgotangco | mhz_idle, windows NT | 06:00 |
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mhz_idle | and the env. would be 1 server for 10 or 15 stations | 06:00 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: with that, I would be happy to see 20 apps. per subject (Math, Lenaguage, etc) and group (from pre-kinder to 8 years olds, from 9 to 13 and from 14 to 18) | 06:02 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: clients < 64mb won't boot, 96mb / 11 (10 users + some server otherhead) = ~8.7mb per client | 06:03 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: depending on how active & how many *different* apps are running, that will be slow | 06:04 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: eg no OOo, and no firefox on that server | 06:04 |
mhz_idle | OR, i could set a mixed env. LTSP + local installed | 06:04 |
mhz_idle | well, classes usually dont consider firefox unless we are talking about Wikpedia | 06:05 |
mhz_idle | (Moinpedia for jsgotangco) | 06:05 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: we need to do a memory profile on what apps are used | 06:05 |
mhz_idle | any tool or script to do that? | 06:06 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: I don't have the bandwidth to grab edubuntu & test until after jan 10 | 06:06 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: we build a test lab, and run top on the server | 06:06 |
jsgotangco | there's moinpedia? | 06:07 |
mhz_idle | jsgotangco: yup, Alexander (#moin) made a CSS for it and tested it against DB's with nice results | 06:07 |
mhz_idle | I ignore if it still is available as project | 06:08 |
jsgotangco | wow | 06:08 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: I might be able to set a Lab to test it (1 server + 1 laptop and 1 PC | 06:08 |
mhz_idle | but I have no clue how to test mem behaviour | 06:09 |
mhz_idle | or cpu | 06:09 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: I can't test cpu, I don't have a spare box. I can however build a virtual lab | 06:10 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: to test mem, you start logging memory use on and idle server | 06:10 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: then you get everyone to log in and do their work while still logging | 06:11 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: you see the peak usage and the average usage | 06:12 |
mhz_idle | yup, i understand/imagine those concepts but 'how do i get them in human like' language so I can chart them and convince schools this is a better option | 06:12 |
mhz_idle | something like 'bootchart' does | 06:12 |
mhz_idle | or even on a txt? | 06:13 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: you need to get that lab built and perform the analysis and write up independently | 06:14 |
mhz_idle | ooh, i see | 06:14 |
mhz_idle | I can do that | 06:14 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: ok, I'll start with the lab then | 06:14 |
Yagisan | mhz_idle: then you can see if you need to remove anything from edubuntu, or get the schools to spend more money | 06:15 |
mhz_idle | and understanding how to tweak GTK colors for winows and menus | 06:15 |
mhz_idle | (just in case) | 06:15 |
mhz_idle | Yagisan: jsgotangco: thx a lot. I feel less lost now | 06:16 |
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mhz_idle | F1... | 06:16 |
mhz_idle | F1... | 06:16 |
mhz_idle | F1... | 06:16 |
mhz_idle | F1... | 06:16 |
mhz_idle | :D | 06:16 |
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jsgotangco | i got to try sleeping | 06:18 |
jsgotangco | heh | 06:18 |
jsgotangco | a can of V didnt work | 06:18 |
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Petaris | Anyone here played with getting the terminals to logon to a Microsoft Active Directory or Novell eDirectory (NDS) domain? | 06:22 |
Yagisan | the edubuntu terminals ? | 06:22 |
Petaris | yeah, the ltsp terminals | 06:23 |
Petaris | I know novell has a linux client but it is packaged for suse and redhat, I'm not sure if you could safely use alien to convert it | 06:24 |
Petaris | and I'm not sure how possible it would be to do | 06:24 |
Yagisan | Petaris: it's actually the ltsp server that you'll need to modify - and last time I tried integrating linux into AD it took days :( | 06:25 |
Petaris | well I have gentoo samba servers that are members of the domain, but that is a bit different | 06:25 |
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Petaris | I mean to logon to the domain and map your network drives/etc when you logon to the terminal | 06:26 |
Petaris | http://www.novell.com/products/clients/linux/overview.html | 06:26 |
Petaris | there is the novell client | 06:27 |
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Petaris | but it was made specifically for Novell Linux Desktop and Redhat, I don't know if that means it won't work with debianish systems or not | 06:27 |
aep | hi. | 06:27 |
aep | since i didnt find a channel that is about linux in education i chose yours. | 06:28 |
Petaris | aep: Hello | 06:28 |
Petaris | I use linux in education | 06:29 |
aep | i'm starting a project for educational institutes. | 06:29 |
Petaris | I'm a k-12 school district here | 06:29 |
aep | maybe you want to here about. it brought a lot of hard disuss only speaking out the topic of the project | 06:29 |
aep | (excuse my english please) | 06:30 |
aep | In the institutes i was, there is much windows installed. they dont change it becouse they think they would have to change the staff too | 06:31 |
Petaris | haha, I wish I could change some of the staff | 06:31 |
Petaris | ;) | 06:31 |
aep | my project aims to let linux look and feel exactely the same way windows does. So Institutes can change the OS without having _any_ trouble. most users dont even notice its another os | 06:32 |
aep | i tested it out with qvm and it was great, then with a modification of kde (see http://data.xparanoid.de/exosXP.jpg) and it was great. until the users tryed to start the system configurator or some win32 program | 06:34 |
aep | http://eligym.mine.nu/exos2006.pdf here is the (roadmap) of my project. i need many people to support me with code (e.g. i'm not able to write kernel modules) | 06:35 |
aep | and the roadmap is bad english too, sorry | 06:35 |
aep | if you are interested, to support me in _any_ way (even its just you want to say i'm on the wrong/rigth way) then send a jabber to me :) aep@jabber.ccc.de | 06:37 |
aep | i'm not hearing any reaction ;-) | 06:38 |
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Petaris | the interface has been done before BTW | 06:38 |
aep | maybe hard to understand, since it's realy bad translated | 06:38 |
Petaris | check icewm | 06:38 |
aep | oh no, the intefaces done until now are not as powerfull as kde | 06:39 |
Petaris | true | 06:39 |
Petaris | Your'e putting a lot of trust in wine, some things will "just" work but most will not | 06:42 |
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Petaris | and I wouldn't try to create a branch kernel, use modules then you can use the newest kernel easily when it comes out | 06:43 |
aep | it was not y idea to integrate wine. i know that it depends on much configuration to let some programms run in it. But i dont think wine should be a main-target, since the comunity brings a lot of better tools (like OO) | 06:43 |
aep | yes the module concept is a good idea | 06:43 |
Petaris | and why would you need the winxp cd or lic | 06:44 |
aep | 1. becouse i would have a license problem if i do not ask for it and 2. becouse wine needs it to create a fake windows drive | 06:45 |
Petaris | since when? | 06:45 |
Petaris | I use wine with no winxp lic | 06:46 |
Petaris | and that would require still buying winxp | 06:46 |
aep | i doesnt _need_ it. But with that fake drive you have much better support. e.g iexplore | 06:46 |
Petaris | eeeeek! | 06:46 |
Petaris | Why would you want to use iexplore? | 06:47 |
aep | i know , but i dont know howto solve it other way :/ | 06:47 |
Petaris | use firefox | 06:47 |
Petaris | :) | 06:47 |
aep | no! but some win32 programms need it | 06:47 |
Petaris | I do for win and lin | 06:47 |
Petaris | oh | 06:47 |
Petaris | thats what you meant | 06:47 |
Petaris | yeah, for ie you need a win lic | 06:47 |
aep | yip | 06:47 |
aep | but i would like to solve it another way | 06:47 |
Petaris | which win progs do you think you need that require ie though? | 06:48 |
Petaris | use OO.org instead of MS Office | 06:48 |
aep | some that are very deep integrated. e.g. some installers get there proxy info out of ie | 06:48 |
aep | yes OO! | 06:48 |
Yagisan | Petaris: quite a few, including games | 06:48 |
Petaris | There should be a fake iexplore.exe file that has the proxy info etc but no ie, and thus no lic | 06:49 |
aep | but the main problem is the licensing. all those styles are (c) by microsoft | 06:49 |
Yagisan | Petaris: I must be blind - I can't find source for that app from novell | 06:49 |
Petaris | Yagisan: you have to be registered (free) and logged int | 06:50 |
Petaris | er, in | 06:50 |
aep | maybe there is another way i could do it. put the mirror somewhere in the ocian :D | 06:51 |
aep | but anyway i realy need some support. since a few months i thougth it will be based on gentoo, but now i changed my opinion... the gentoo guys where realy unfriendly to me, as i tryed to bring my project to them | 06:52 |
aep | so if you want to contact me you know my jabber id :-) | 06:55 |
Petaris | Yagisan: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/novell-client-1.0-linux-nld9.tar.gz | 06:57 |
aep | seems you want to talk anymore or now. i must leave, so tell youre friends and contact me plz ;-) .. cya | 06:58 |
Petaris | Yagisan: Here are the install instructions: http://www.novell.com/documentation/linux_client/index.html?page=/documentation/linux_client/linuxclient/data/hgcbnee7.html | 06:58 |
Yagisan | Petaris: thanks, I'll check it out when I wake up - see if I can spot any issues | 07:00 |
Petaris | ok thankt | 07:00 |
Petaris | er thatnks | 07:00 |
Yagisan | no worries | 07:00 |
Yagisan | Petaris: oh dear - it needs kernel source | 07:02 |
Yagisan | Petaris: that's a good sign it will break on upgrades | 07:02 |
Petaris | dosen't surprise me | 07:02 |
Petaris | but if it could be tweaked to work that would be a powerful tool | 07:03 |
Petaris | for adaptation of edubuntu in Novell shops | 07:03 |
Yagisan | Petaris: what are the redistribution conditions ? reading the overview page, they give the impression that you can't run it on other distros | 07:05 |
Petaris | Thats not the impression I got from the rep | 07:05 |
Petaris | let me check | 07:05 |
Petaris | nothing in the legal notice about it | 07:07 |
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Petaris | Yagisan: Do you think any kernel-source will work? Or might it be their tweaked source? | 07:15 |
Yagisan | Petaris: I don't know - I need to get the package (slowly coming down my shaped connection) | 07:16 |
Petaris | ahh | 07:16 |
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Yagisan | night all | 07:29 |
Petaris | night | 07:29 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 07:50 |
Lord_Athur | hi | 07:52 |
Lord_Athur | I need an advice | 07:52 |
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KeithC | hey - quick question. i was wondering if theres an iso i can download of a live cd edubuntu... i want to test it and see if i want to set up an edubuntu box for my baby cousins. | 07:58 |
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paolob | Hi guys! Anyone could tell me where does evolution store the mail accounts settings? | 09:49 |
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Lord_Athur | hi | 10:11 |
Lord_Athur | mhz, I need an advice from you | 10:11 |
mhz | Lord_Athur: shoot | 10:11 |
Lord_Athur | a? | 10:12 |
mhz | Lord_Athur: dime | 10:12 |
Lord_Athur | ok | 10:12 |
mhz | shoot = dispara = dime | 10:12 |
Lord_Athur | ok | 10:19 |
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lucasvo | I just ran into first difficut thing in Edubuntu-dapper ppc installation | 11:57 |
lucasvo | ah, just solved it | 11:58 |
lucasvo | maybe not | 12:02 |
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