=== Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [12:26] hi there [12:27] when a log onto the terminal a text is shown, [12:28] it's about the NO WARRANTY of ubuntu [12:28] can I change this text? [12:30] can anybody help me? [12:44] ogra_ibook, you're an ubuntu expert, can you help me? [12:52] <\sh> Lord_Athur: /etc/motd [12:52] thanks [12:56] \sh, with ubuntu 5.04, how can I delete mails (using the mail program of the terminal)? [12:59] <\sh> Lord_Athur: /join #ubuntu for support questions.. 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Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! === writer [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [i=1007@203.131.132.66] has joined #edubuntu [12:03] hello everybody === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:14] Hello! [12:16] writer, hi there [12:17] Hi [12:53] ogra_ibook: whare can I download the edubuntu dapper install cd for ppc? [12:59] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-2/ [01:00] yup, I've already found it [01:01] thanks === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.160.18] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:32] hi [03:35] Hi === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:37] hi mhz [03:38] hi Lord_Athur === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] hi there [04:08] who uses xfree86? [04:11] no one anymore ... [04:11] ok [04:12] not since they committed suicide ^W^W mass re-licensed [04:12] anyway [04:12] :D === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:24] mhz, I've got an empy floppy [04:24] what can be a good format to mount it? === mhz had never used floppies in the last 3 years [04:24] jajjaa [04:25] is there anyone with the information? [04:25] mhz, I cannot use a CD for 3 kb [04:25] xD [04:25] and i need it for a pc without graphical enviroment [04:26] cdrecord [04:26] cdrecord --scanbus [04:26] will give you the info you need for: [04:26] a? [04:26] what's that? [04:26] ok [04:26] cdrecord -v dev=X,Y,Z fs=16m speed=4 the_iso_file [04:30] Lord_Athur: mount /medial/floppy -t vfat [04:30] s/medial/media [04:30] is that what you are looking for ? [04:31] thanks Yagisan === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@ppp-69-214-139-26.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:31] hello all [04:31] Yagisan: I thought Lord_Athur wanted to burn a CD [04:32] mhz, I don't want to do that [04:32] I only want to mount a floppy [04:32] xD [04:32] but I must especify the file system [04:32] Yagisan, the command that you gave me is wrong [04:32] Lord_Athur mhz, I cannot use a CD for 3 kb [04:33] Lord_Athur: you said that [04:33] yes === mhz got lost [04:33] I wanted to tell you that I only can use a floppy for this case [04:33] and not a cd [04:33] :D [04:33] Lord_Athur: ok try this: mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /media/floppy [04:34] Lord_Athur: make sure you have a /media/floppy directory === mhz is now known as mhz_idle [04:34] otherwise change to to somewhere else [04:34] yes [04:36] Yagisan, [04:36] thanks i could do it [04:36] I'll be back as soon as possible after repair my problem [04:36] bye === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@ppp-69-214-139-26.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [05:21] Yagisan: got a minute, gifted man? [05:22] mhz_idle: what do you need ? [05:23] as you know my main concern is old or less powerful hardware for edubuntu [05:24] so, I started working on customizing wmaker look until ogra mentioned that wmaker and fluxbox wouldn't suit freedesktop standards [05:24] then, [05:24] yesterday I had some time to play and test XFCE again [05:24] yes - I have quite a bit of "old" hardware [05:25] lol i thought i read "wanker" [05:25] wmaker [05:25] haha [05:25] and met this guy in #xubuntu who has started a great cool project "DSS live" [05:25] jsgotangco: hehehehehe [05:25] jsgotangco: too much slack from holidays? [05:25] mhz_idle, ive been busy of late [05:25] with a side project [05:26] Yagisan: this guy, 'nomed', has based his project on ubuntu but with many diff and used XFCE 90% free of GNOME libs dependency [05:26] jsgotangco: pet or side? [05:27] side [05:27] hopefully it gets done next year [05:27] jsgotangco: on? [05:27] Yagisan: so I now wonder... [05:28] Yagisan: if I want Edubuntu to be the cheapest on hardware consumption, which road should I take? [05:28] mhz_idle, you'll know in due time [05:28] Yagisan: ubuntu does use lots of gnome [05:28] jsgotangco: grrhhh :) [05:28] mhz_idle, XFCE so at least you're gtk compatible [05:29] jsgotangco: at least a clue or category? [05:29] mhz_idle, it is docs related [05:29] jsgotangco: I am seriously considering XFCE mainly because of desktop standrards [05:29] but If my other cncern is lib dependencies... === jsgotangco is not a firm believer of desktop standards [05:30] i like my desktop to be programmable =) [05:30] DSS live has gotten free of those, but then have also used too many diff resources ubuntu does use [05:30] jsgotangco: me too, I use fluxbox and wmaker only [05:31] but my concern has to be wider = students and schools [05:31] mhz_idle, but you're developing a solution now, your opinions rarely matter heh [05:31] with old cheap hardware [05:31] heheh [05:31] that's why i am using xcfe now [05:32] its a nice desktop but its not my cup of tea [05:32] i still like the logic of patterns and methods of gnome [05:32] my concern is how much speed or weight on resources will I gain by getting rid of GNOME dependencies [05:33] and how much I can get rid of? [05:33] hmmm [05:33] considering Ubuntu/Edubuntu is 100 GNOME [05:33] well yes [05:33] you'll probrably be grabbing the basic gtk tookits for starters [05:34] not necessarily gnome =) [05:34] mhz_idle: even if you switch to xfce, you'll still need cire gnome and kde libs for many applications [05:34] s/cire/core [05:34] yes [05:34] especially for kedu [05:34] yup [05:35] you'll still have a leaner setup compared to full gnome [05:35] probably a few hundred MB less [05:35] and as I understand NOTHING about developing nor coding nor libs, I am totally clules about how to do this light-edubuntu [05:35] and make it a valid official option [05:35] i dont think that's possible for this cycle [05:35] too short [05:36] its january next year [05:36] AFAIK, DSS live is ubuntu but nomed says 'too tweaked' [05:36] its not well documented? [05:36] what? [05:36] mhz_idle: here is the catch - want to use those ubuntu apps like firefox - then you need the gtk libs [05:37] mhz_idle: want k3b - need the kde libs [05:37] Yagisan, k3b alone needs at least a 100MB worth of deps [05:37] heh [05:37] jsgotangco: but in that case, k3b is worth it [05:37] (assuming you installed gnome) [05:38] sure it is [05:38] but getting 100MB over the network can be a shock [05:38] mhz_idle: the only feasible way to slim down ubuntu - without getting a major cflags change, is to carefully pick your applications [05:39] mhz_idle, you'll probably have to sacrifice the kde apps and focus on gtk [05:39] jsgotangco: I'm shaped to 64k down now, I had to suck 250MB worth a while ago :( [05:40] mhz_idle: perhaps even sacrifice gtk apps depening on your target box [05:40] are you currently being abused by evil telstra? [05:40] mhz_idle, since youre targeting low-end systems, that's a good sacrifice (to remove the other apps) [05:41] but you'll have a limited app selection in the process [05:41] (unless there's a ton of edu apps on ncurses heh) === mhz_idle sighs [05:41] :) [05:41] jsgotangco: no, I went over my 20GB limit with tpg, trying to get something decent to watch for christmas O:-) [05:42] haha [05:42] i might fly to brisbane after the new year [05:42] and stay for a few weeks [05:43] jsgotangco: Yagisan:... what if I just made an edubuntu XFCE theme for our edubuntu cd.. will that be a start? will that be included in Dapper? [05:44] you can ask ogra to package it as a universe app i guess [05:44] mhz_idle: I think that would help, but first [05:44] jsgotangco: i mean , to be part of the shipped CD ;) [05:45] mhz_idle: I'd sit down with pen & paper and decide what apps I'd want to use [05:45] Yagisan: my initial idea was to have same exact apps than edubuntu [05:46] mhz_idle, that wouldn't be useful at all, since XFCE isn't in the CD for starters [05:46] later on, I met the 'libs' issues [05:46] mhz_idle: then you need to trim the "fat" in other ways [05:46] trim = slim down? [05:46] (i dunno if XFCE got promoted to main,....) [05:46] maybe not [05:46] mhz_idle: yes [05:47] mhz_idle: actually it is to cut away [05:47] hehehe [05:47] .oO(english and its phrasal verbs!!!) [05:47] only native speakers can come up with them [05:48] mhz_idle: how far from edubuntu do you want to go ? [05:49] mhz_idle: we need to determine what is an acceptable loss for yoou [05:49] Yagisan: as I only understood the need and not what it actually implies... I just realized old chilean hardware was not ideal for edubuntu as it currently is. So my main goal was to make it less expensive. [05:50] mhz_idle: are you planning a ltsp setup, or individual workstations ? [05:50] ltsp [05:50] ok [05:50] or xmcdp [05:50] or any way I can set a semi-modern server and 10 or 20 workstations [05:50] mhz_idle: I'd drop all kde stuff, and see if I can get a gtk replacement if you need that a particular app [05:51] Yagisan: what if I cut away FAT kde? [05:51] mhz_idle: xfce might be good - do you have a comparison to gnome ? [05:51] nope just yey because I am still in the process of learning about what i am getting into :D [05:52] when I started theming wmaker I knew that was lot faster than gnome [05:52] on every aspect [05:53] I have no clue how to compare xfce and gnome unless you are talking about using a timer ;) [05:53] mhz_idle, i wonder if its still edubuntu after shedding all that so called "fat" [05:53] exactly, thats my point [05:54] mhz_idle: which comes back to my question, how far from edubuntu do you want to go ? [05:54] jsgotangco: would KDE be lighter than GNOME ? (considering I will use educational apps in edubuntu) [05:55] mhz_idle: do you have a typical pc we can perform measurements on ? [05:55] Yagisan: hmmm, i can't quite understand your question [05:55] unlikely KDE has its own voodoo way different from gnome [05:55] Yagisan: I have gotten one, 600 MHz celeron, 128 MB ram, 20 GB [05:56] mhz_idle: how much edubuntu are you willing to remove, to achieve your goal ? [05:56] but i guess typical would be 96 RAM [05:56] mhz_idle: ok - and how many clients on a 96mb box ? [05:57] Yagisan: my first idea was to have the option for scholl admins to choose Wmaker or XFCE over GNOME when installing Edubuntu Dapper. That was it. Now..... Now I feel lost so because Edubuntu is also suitable for about 35% of the Chilean schools [05:58] Yagisan: so, answering your question today about 'how far' seems not clear to me. [05:59] Yagisan: I could make school servers to be 1 GHz + 256 RAM (maybe, just maybe, 512 MB), 20 GB [05:59] mhz_idle: to determine how we can meet your target machine, I need to know how much I can remove, without you becoming unhappy [05:59] and most of clients would have 500 MHz, 48 or 64 MB of ram, 9 GB [06:00] heheheh [06:00] mhz_idle, windows NT === jsgotangco hides [06:00] and the env. would be 1 server for 10 or 15 stations [06:02] Yagisan: with that, I would be happy to see 20 apps. per subject (Math, Lenaguage, etc) and group (from pre-kinder to 8 years olds, from 9 to 13 and from 14 to 18) [06:03] mhz_idle: clients < 64mb won't boot, 96mb / 11 (10 users + some server otherhead) = ~8.7mb per client [06:04] mhz_idle: depending on how active & how many *different* apps are running, that will be slow [06:04] mhz_idle: eg no OOo, and no firefox on that server [06:04] OR, i could set a mixed env. LTSP + local installed [06:05] well, classes usually dont consider firefox unless we are talking about Wikpedia [06:05] (Moinpedia for jsgotangco) [06:05] mhz_idle: we need to do a memory profile on what apps are used [06:06] any tool or script to do that? [06:06] mhz_idle: I don't have the bandwidth to grab edubuntu & test until after jan 10 [06:06] mhz_idle: we build a test lab, and run top on the server [06:07] there's moinpedia? [06:07] jsgotangco: yup, Alexander (#moin) made a CSS for it and tested it against DB's with nice results [06:08] I ignore if it still is available as project [06:08] wow [06:08] Yagisan: I might be able to set a Lab to test it (1 server + 1 laptop and 1 PC [06:09] but I have no clue how to test mem behaviour [06:09] or cpu [06:10] mhz_idle: I can't test cpu, I don't have a spare box. I can however build a virtual lab [06:10] mhz_idle: to test mem, you start logging memory use on and idle server [06:11] mhz_idle: then you get everyone to log in and do their work while still logging [06:12] mhz_idle: you see the peak usage and the average usage [06:12] yup, i understand/imagine those concepts but 'how do i get them in human like' language so I can chart them and convince schools this is a better option [06:12] something like 'bootchart' does [06:13] or even on a txt? [06:14] mhz_idle: you need to get that lab built and perform the analysis and write up independently [06:14] ooh, i see [06:14] I can do that [06:14] Yagisan: ok, I'll start with the lab then [06:15] mhz_idle: then you can see if you need to remove anything from edubuntu, or get the schools to spend more money [06:15] and understanding how to tweak GTK colors for winows and menus [06:15] (just in case) [06:16] Yagisan: jsgotangco: thx a lot. I feel less lost now === mhz_idle running otta batteries.... [06:16] F1... [06:16] F1... [06:16] F1... [06:16] F1... [06:16] :D === mhz_idle closing everything [06:18] i got to try sleeping [06:18] heh [06:18] a can of V didnt work === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:22] Anyone here played with getting the terminals to logon to a Microsoft Active Directory or Novell eDirectory (NDS) domain? [06:22] the edubuntu terminals ? [06:23] yeah, the ltsp terminals [06:24] I know novell has a linux client but it is packaged for suse and redhat, I'm not sure if you could safely use alien to convert it [06:24] and I'm not sure how possible it would be to do [06:25] Petaris: it's actually the ltsp server that you'll need to modify - and last time I tried integrating linux into AD it took days :( [06:25] well I have gentoo samba servers that are members of the domain, but that is a bit different === \sh_away is now known as \sh [06:26] I mean to logon to the domain and map your network drives/etc when you logon to the terminal [06:26] http://www.novell.com/products/clients/linux/overview.html [06:27] there is the novell client === aep [n=aep@p54B8DE5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:27] but it was made specifically for Novell Linux Desktop and Redhat, I don't know if that means it won't work with debianish systems or not [06:27] hi. [06:28] since i didnt find a channel that is about linux in education i chose yours. [06:28] aep: Hello [06:29] I use linux in education [06:29] i'm starting a project for educational institutes. [06:29] I'm a k-12 school district here [06:29] maybe you want to here about. it brought a lot of hard disuss only speaking out the topic of the project [06:30] (excuse my english please) [06:31] In the institutes i was, there is much windows installed. they dont change it becouse they think they would have to change the staff too [06:31] haha, I wish I could change some of the staff [06:31] ;) [06:32] my project aims to let linux look and feel exactely the same way windows does. So Institutes can change the OS without having _any_ trouble. most users dont even notice its another os [06:34] i tested it out with qvm and it was great, then with a modification of kde (see http://data.xparanoid.de/exosXP.jpg) and it was great. until the users tryed to start the system configurator or some win32 program [06:35] http://eligym.mine.nu/exos2006.pdf here is the (roadmap) of my project. i need many people to support me with code (e.g. i'm not able to write kernel modules) [06:35] and the roadmap is bad english too, sorry [06:37] if you are interested, to support me in _any_ way (even its just you want to say i'm on the wrong/rigth way) then send a jabber to me :) aep@jabber.ccc.de [06:38] i'm not hearing any reaction ;-) === Petaris is still reading the roadmap [06:38] the interface has been done before BTW [06:38] maybe hard to understand, since it's realy bad translated [06:38] check icewm [06:39] oh no, the intefaces done until now are not as powerfull as kde [06:39] true [06:42] Your'e putting a lot of trust in wine, some things will "just" work but most will not === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu [06:43] and I wouldn't try to create a branch kernel, use modules then you can use the newest kernel easily when it comes out [06:43] it was not y idea to integrate wine. i know that it depends on much configuration to let some programms run in it. But i dont think wine should be a main-target, since the comunity brings a lot of better tools (like OO) [06:43] yes the module concept is a good idea [06:44] and why would you need the winxp cd or lic [06:45] 1. becouse i would have a license problem if i do not ask for it and 2. becouse wine needs it to create a fake windows drive [06:45] since when? [06:46] I use wine with no winxp lic [06:46] and that would require still buying winxp [06:46] i doesnt _need_ it. But with that fake drive you have much better support. e.g iexplore [06:46] eeeeek! [06:47] Why would you want to use iexplore? [06:47] i know , but i dont know howto solve it other way :/ [06:47] use firefox [06:47] :) [06:47] no! but some win32 programms need it [06:47] I do for win and lin [06:47] oh [06:47] thats what you meant [06:47] yeah, for ie you need a win lic [06:47] yip [06:47] but i would like to solve it another way [06:48] which win progs do you think you need that require ie though? [06:48] use OO.org instead of MS Office [06:48] some that are very deep integrated. e.g. some installers get there proxy info out of ie [06:48] yes OO! [06:48] Petaris: quite a few, including games [06:49] There should be a fake iexplore.exe file that has the proxy info etc but no ie, and thus no lic [06:49] but the main problem is the licensing. all those styles are (c) by microsoft [06:49] Petaris: I must be blind - I can't find source for that app from novell [06:50] Yagisan: you have to be registered (free) and logged int [06:50] er, in [06:51] maybe there is another way i could do it. put the mirror somewhere in the ocian :D [06:52] but anyway i realy need some support. since a few months i thougth it will be based on gentoo, but now i changed my opinion... the gentoo guys where realy unfriendly to me, as i tryed to bring my project to them [06:55] so if you want to contact me you know my jabber id :-) [06:57] Yagisan: http://katerina.frederic.k12.wi.us/code/novell-client-1.0-linux-nld9.tar.gz [06:58] seems you want to talk anymore or now. i must leave, so tell youre friends and contact me plz ;-) .. cya [06:58] Yagisan: Here are the install instructions: http://www.novell.com/documentation/linux_client/index.html?page=/documentation/linux_client/linuxclient/data/hgcbnee7.html [07:00] Petaris: thanks, I'll check it out when I wake up - see if I can spot any issues [07:00] ok thankt [07:00] er thatnks [07:00] no worries [07:02] Petaris: oh dear - it needs kernel source [07:02] Petaris: that's a good sign it will break on upgrades [07:02] dosen't surprise me [07:03] but if it could be tweaked to work that would be a powerful tool [07:03] for adaptation of edubuntu in Novell shops [07:05] Petaris: what are the redistribution conditions ? reading the overview page, they give the impression that you can't run it on other distros [07:05] Thats not the impression I got from the rep [07:05] let me check [07:07] nothing in the legal notice about it === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [07:15] Yagisan: Do you think any kernel-source will work? Or might it be their tweaked source? [07:16] Petaris: I don't know - I need to get the package (slowly coming down my shaped connection) [07:16] ahh === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.107] has joined #edubuntu [07:29] night all [07:29] night === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:50] hi [07:52] hi [07:52] I need an advice === KeithC [n=2@ool-4355bf4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:58] hey - quick question. i was wondering if theres an iso i can download of a live cd edubuntu... i want to test it and see if i want to set up an edubuntu box for my baby cousins. === KeithC [n=2@ool-4355bf4d.dyn.optonline.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === reinaldo__ [n=reinaldo@201.236.115.71] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has left #edubuntu ["Out"] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_egolatra === mhz_egolatra is now known as mhz === paolob [n=paolo@ppp-127-31.28-151.libero.it] has joined #edubuntu [09:49] Hi guys! Anyone could tell me where does evolution store the mail accounts settings? === paolob [n=paolo@ppp-127-31.28-151.libero.it] has left #edubuntu ["Sto] === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:11] hi [10:11] mhz, I need an advice from you [10:11] Lord_Athur: shoot [10:12] a? [10:12] Lord_Athur: dime [10:12] ok [10:12] shoot = dispara = dime [10:19] ok === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-236.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [11:57] I just ran into first difficut thing in Edubuntu-dapper ppc installation [11:58] ah, just solved it [12:02] maybe not