[12:08] <`Nomad> oh well, it'll go back to running off of windows XP until I can find what I'm missing, sucks but it works there :(
[12:08] <`Nomad> thanks all
[12:08] <nalioth> `Nomad: if you read the root wiki page, it'll tell you that a root account breaks functionality in kubuntu
[12:08] <nalioth> !root
[12:08] <nalioth> crap
[12:08] <nalioth> !tell `Nomad about root
[12:12] <osh_> any chance that gam_server will be fixed soon? It eats memory like nothing I've ever seen. I have to kill it daily to keep it from putting all my regular programs swapped out.
[12:14] <`Nomad> oh!  Shoudl i remove the password assigned to root?
[12:15] <mac__> !tell mac__ about root
[12:17] <mac__> nalioth, which "root wiki page" are you referring to?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu doesn't have anything about "root" breaking anything... unless I missed it
[12:20] <Hobbsee> mac__:
[12:20] <Hobbsee> !root
[12:20] <Hobbsee> !+root
[12:20] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:21] <mac__> right, that's what I thought... but was wondering about the "root account *breaks* functionality in kubuntu" bit...
[12:22] <`Nomad> I've "su -" to root before.. If I did affect permissions in Kubuntu somewhere, is there any way to know?
[12:23] <osh_> try sudo bash. it drops you into a rootshell should you need it. =)
[12:24] <nalioth> `Nomad: if you've manged the perms, it'll tell you when you start a program with affected perms
[12:24] <nalioth> osh_: no sir. sudo -i
[12:24] <Hobbsee> mac__: it does, if you use sudo, and not kdesu - it's at the bottom of that wiki link
[12:29] <mac__> Hobbsee, ahhh... "Running GUI applications with Root permissions"...  thx for pointing it out, it seems so harmless there at the bottom
[12:29] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah, i know
[12:30] <krystoff> hi , i'm in trouble configuring kaffeine with xine
[12:30] <nalioth> sudo -i is the preferred method
[12:33] <mac__> nalioth, even preferred over "kdesu"?  The wiki page prefers kdesu over sudo (but that's presumable a sudo without any switches at all)
[12:34] <nalioth> mac__: use sudo -i for a superuser terminal. use kdesu to start kde gui apps and gksudo for gtp apps
[12:34] <nalioth> mac__: sudo su and sudo -s are the same thing. sudo -i is the preferred method
[12:35] <mac__> I see, thx!
[12:37] <`Nomad> One last question, an easy one.. Before updating Iu sed to have an icon in Kicker that had a house on it, openign Konqueror in my Home folder..  I can't find that in the applets or applications to add anymore.  What was it?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> right click on kicker, add applet to panel?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> should be something there...
[12:38] <nalioth> put it back, `Nomad
[12:38] <`Nomad> I didn,t take it off, it's gone
[12:38] <`Nomad> I got used to using ksmoothdock for so long, maybe I never had it on Kicker?
[12:42] <mac__> (repost) anyone know what app/util by default binds the multimedia keys (e.g., XF86AudioLowerLevel... Fn+Down on my laptop) in Kubuntu?  Seems to be some KDE app as the (very simple) window that pops up uses the Lipstick/default KDE/QT theme/skin, but it is not Kmix... I've checked its Global Shortcuts, they are set to None... something else is intercepting/binding these keys...
[12:42] <slow-motion> n8
[12:43] <mac__> or can anyone suggest how to track this util down
[12:44] <`Nomad> got it.. Command is " konqueror --profile filemanagement"
[12:46] <Hobbsee> mac__: only thing that i could possibly suggest is google, sorry - i dont know
[12:47] <electuZ> 
[12:48] <nalioth> electuZ: english in here please
[12:48] <mac__> Hobbsee, lucky you... I hate not having a physical knob for controlling volume... it assumes the SW will always work properly...
[12:48] <Hobbsee> ah, apart from the physical volume knob, yes
[12:48] <Hobbsee> true
[12:48] <electroweak> hi guys
[12:49] <electroweak> i am having problem with installation
[12:49] <jahshua> my Konqueror is extremely slow for loading webpages.. can anyone help? its like being on dialup to load w webpage in it :(
[12:49] <electroweak> after installation kde hangs
[12:50] <electroweak> right after login it is hanging nothing responding on keyboard
[12:50] <electroweak> any suggestions
[12:53] <krystoff> mac__: have you found something about the behaviour of sound ctrl in laptop as in ubuntu ?
[12:54] <rubem> how can I check the KDE version?
[12:55] <nalioth> rubem: any kde program > help > about kde
[12:56] <rubem> tks
[12:56] <electroweak> right after login it is hanging nothing responding on keyboard
[12:56] <rubem> upt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade should update to kde 3.5?
[12:56] <electroweak> i`m having problem with installation
[12:57] <nalioth> rubem: only if you've followed the instructions at kubuntu.org
[01:00] <mac__> krystoff, I'm trying to figure out what handles the volume keys...haven't found much
[01:01] <krystoff> ok mac__ i'm searching for the same thing
[01:01] <mac__> actually, found a reference to "kmilo", that seems to be the KDE component that handles the Volume keys in KDE... anyone know where to access/configure this kmilo??? I've never heard of it before,but it does seem to be installed...
[01:01] <krystoff> yes found it too
[01:02] <rubem> sorry nalioth, which instructions?
[01:02] <nalioth> kde3.5
[01:02] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[01:02] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:02] <krystoff> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:02] <electroweak> guy kde hangs after login should i reinstall it or could it be some oother problem
[01:03] <mac__> krystoff: I'm seeing that Thinkpad and Vaio plugins seem to refer to installing their own bindings into kmilo... but no idea where kmilo itself is to be found in kcontrol...
[01:03] <krystoff> mac__: it's from kdeutils
[01:04] <krystoff> but can't find nothing else
[01:04] <rubem> have anyone done that?
[01:04] <rubem> have anyone upgraded to kde 3.5?
[01:05] <krystoff> in progress rubem
[01:06] <nalioth> rubem: lots of people have
[01:07] <krystoff> session reboot
[01:07] <rubem> successefuly?
[01:07] <nalioth> rubem: yes successfully
[01:07] <angasule> what package should I install to get more themes available? I installed kdeartwork and there aren't any new themes available, apparently
[01:08] <nalioth> it's quite easy if you follow the howto at kubuntu.org
[01:08] <rubem> nalioth just put the repo that the link said to put and apt-get upgrade?
[01:08] <nalioth> rubem: that should do fine (don't forget to import the key)
[01:14] <jahshua> my Konqueror is extremely slow for loading webpages.. can anyone help? its like being on dialup to load w webpage in it :(
[01:14] <rubem> how can I check if open gl is instaled?
[01:15] <angasule> rubem: in a console, type: "glxinfo | grep vendor"
[01:15] <rubem> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[01:16] <rubem> looks like ok...
[01:16] <angasule> yeap
[01:16] <angasule> try "glxinfo | grep renderer" just to be sure
[01:16] <rubem> have you ever see the game "cube"?
[01:16] <angasule> yeah, I have seen it, I don't know it too well, though
[01:17] <kalenedrael> The Nintendo Gamecube, or a game called 'Cube'?
[01:17] <rubem> its wired
[01:17] <Hentai^XP> cube yeah its that FPS right?
[01:17] <kalenedrael> ...?
[01:17] <angasule> kalenedrael: it's an FPS called 'cube'
[01:17] <rubem> no, the "*nix" cube gabe
[01:17] <kalenedrael> k
[01:18] <angasule> rubem: it's wired? what do you mean? you see wireframe?
[01:18] <rubem> why when i'm root i cant launch visual apps?
[01:18] <rubem> angasule when i'm root, and i launch, kedit, cube, etc, it display a error
[01:19] <rubem> angasule I type su root, the password at konsole
[01:19] <nalioth> !kdesu
[01:19] <ubotu> I heard kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[01:19] <rubem> angasule and when I try to launch a visual program, it fails
[01:19] <nalioth> rubem: dont use root, it will break your kubuntu
[01:20] <rubem> nalioth so sorry, i HATE sudp
[01:20] <nalioth> rubem: use kdesu  (read above)
[01:20] <rubem> nalioth so sorry, i HATE sudo***
[01:20] <jahshua> my Konqueror is extremely slow for loading webpages.. can anyone help? its like being on dialup to load a webpage in it :(
[01:20] <rubem> nalioth I use root onlyu at konsole
[01:20] <angasule> then what's the problem, rubem ?
[01:20] <rubem> nalioth can this be a problema?
[01:20] <nalioth> rubem: if you read the wikipage it will tell you it breaks your box
[01:21] <rubem> angasule well, the problem is that some times i want to launch visual programs as root in konsole
[01:21] <nalioth> rubem: use kdesu
[01:21] <angasule> rubem: sounds like you use root too much
[01:22] <rubem> nalioth angasule if that happens, this MUST be changed in the next versions!!!
[01:22] <angasule> rubem: nope, you have bad habits
[01:22] <nalioth> rubem: i doubt root is coming back
[01:22] <crimsun> rubem: why are you using root for gui apps?
[01:23] <crimsun> rubem: i.e., what justification for the elevated privileges?
[01:23] <Hentai^XP> I'm with people that say non root
[01:24] <rubem> crimsun editing restricted files
[01:24] <rubem> crimsun i don't like vi
[01:24] <crimsun> rubem: you don't need to run with elevated privileges /all the time/ to edit such files
[01:24] <rubem> and keep typing sudo all the tymes makes me angry
[01:24] <crimsun> rubem: just kdesu kate someRestrictedFile
[01:24] <rubem> crimsun somes files i have
[01:25] <angasule> rubem: in konqueror, right click, select actions->'edit as root'
[01:25] <rubem> angasule it's easier su root :)
[01:25] <angasule> rubem: sudo has a timeout, if you open many files as root in a row, you don't have to type the password every time
[01:25] <nalioth> rubem: you are heading for a train wreck.
[01:26] <crimsun> well hey, we'll give you enough rope to hang yourself
[01:26] <crimsun> it's up to you to not hang yourself
[01:26] <rubem> nalioth hum... perhpas so I'm considering to migrate do debian sarge
[01:26] <angasule> hmm, kdesu doesn't have the timeout, apparently :/
[01:26] <crimsun> granted some people aren't satisfied with a rope; they want a shotgun and gasoline, too
[01:27] <angasule> I would use thermite myself, I like chemistry
[01:27] <jahshua> my Konqueror is extremely slow for loading webpages.. can anyone help? its like being on dialup to load a webpage in it :(
[01:27] <nalioth> rubem: as you wish. it is your life.
[01:27] <nalioth> angasule: kdesu is a one-use launcher
[01:27] <angasule> nalioth: too bad, I'd actually like it if it had a short timeout
[01:27] <rubem> nalioth don't misunderstand me, i like ubuntu, and i thank you all by your patience and time
[01:28] <sampan> kdesu has that "remember password" option -- never used it myself, but if one hated typing in the pw all the time it might work
[01:28] <nalioth> angasule: it's all open sourced, perhaps you could put a timer in it
[01:28] <angasule> nalioth: you think such a thing would be accepted?
[01:29] <nalioth> angasule: sure why not?
[01:29] <nalioth> it makes sense to me
[01:29] <angasule> sampan: I think the remember password is a bad idea
[01:29] <sampan> angasule  me too, which is why i never use it
[01:29] <angasule> I'm a vim-junkie anyway, so it doesn't bother me
[01:29] <sampan> but for people who think typing kdesu is too much work (compared to typing su), it might be an optin ;)
[01:30] <sampan> option*
[01:30] <jahshua> my Konqueror is extremely slow for loading webpages.. can anyone help? its like being on dialup to load a webpage in it :(
[01:31] <angasule> also, there's the possibility of using "kdesu konqueror", any kate, etc that it spawns will be root-owned as well
[01:32] <sampan> could even set up a kmenu entry that launches konq in kdesu/root mode
[01:33] <angasule> sampan: bah, just type it once in the ALT-F2 menu and that's enough of a shortcut for me ;)
[01:33] <sampan> i dunno why some people are so fixated on the ONE way of doing things (i.e., su -- launch app) that they can't adjust to a simpler and safer way of doing things
[01:33] <crimsun> but...but...I /like/ shooting myself in the foot!
[01:33] <sampan> angasule  lol -- i'm so newb ... i didn't even know about that alt-f2 thing :(
[01:34] <angasule> sampan: we call it 'mental inertia' (mental momentum?)
[01:34] <angasule> sampan: it's useful as a calculator, too
[01:34] <sampan> calculator?
[01:34] <angasule> type: 2*2
[01:34] <angasule> then hit enter
[01:35] <sampan> lol nice
[01:35] <angasule> 2**4 = 16 :)
[01:35] <sampan> new tricks!
[01:36] <sampan> that's quite handy -- much easier than launching a calculator app
[01:38] <rubem> have anyone used a MacOs skin for kde\gtk?
[01:38] <angasule> sampan: I also use python in a console as a calculator sometimes
[01:38] <angasule> sampan: just be careful, if you want a floating point result, you *must* add .0 after the numbers (well, at least after one of them), otherwise it's all integer math
[01:39] <angasule> rubem: "kdesu konqueror" will open a konqueror window owned by root, from where you can open many kate windows without typing the pass again
[01:39] <nalioth> rubem: you can also destroy your system with a point and click interface
[01:40] <rubem> nalioth sorry, I didn't understand what do you want do mean...?
[01:40] <angasule> rubem: there are plenty of aqua-like skins around, try http://www.kdelook.org (or is it kde-look?)
[01:40] <nalioth> rubem: if you open a konqueror with 'kdesu' you can destroy your system with it
[01:41] <rubem> nalioth ah... ok...
[01:41] <rubem> I want a iMac, but it's to expensive :(
[01:42] <nalioth> rubem: get a mac mini (but wait til january)
[01:42] <sampan> my next purchase (laptop) very well might be mac -- but waiting to see what the apple SF show will have before i pull the trigger
[01:44] <angasule> my next purchase will be a coffee, it should have been deodorant, but my mom didn't answer her cell phone
[01:45] <rubem> nalioth, yes... but still is expensive. is something like 1000~1200 dolars plus video
[01:46] <rubem> a good x86 computer it's somenthing like 800
[01:46] <sampan> angasule  as long as you don't leave your house, deodorant is an optional expense/purchase ;)
[01:46] <rubem> i've downloaded teh aqua theme... it's in a .bz2, how do i install it?
[01:47] <angasule> rubem: does brazil have dumbass taxes on imported computers too? there should be no tax to computers :/
[01:47] <angasule> sampan: I'll be going out with a few friends, but I still have some deodorant lef
[01:47] <angasule> t
[01:47] <sampan> they'll be grateful
[01:47] <rubem> angasule unfornetly yes...
[01:47] <rubem> angasule for electronics in general
[01:48] <rubem> angasule at least books don't have dumbass taxes
[01:49] <nalioth> rubem: the trick is: replace your box now, with a mini (reuse your keyboard mouse and video)
[01:50] <angasule> rubem: none at all? we half-tax them, I think
[01:51] <angasule> rubem: stupid mercosur, I hope it gets better
[01:51] <rubem> nalioth Sounds a good ideia... but i'll need a extra computer
[01:51] <rubem> angasule, where you from
[01:51] <rubem> ?
[01:51] <angasule> rubem: argentina
[01:52] <rubem> no, literature in general have no tax... they do this for make easier the access to knowlogment
[01:52] <rubem> mercosul is broken :(
[01:53] <rubem> the president of my country is the stupiest...
[01:54] <rubem> oops...
[01:55] <nalioth> rubem: leave the politics out of here, please #kubuntu-offtopic is a better venue
[01:55] <rubem> well... bye all... thank you for your patience... sorry about my english
[02:24] <electroweak> hi guys i need help
[02:24] <nalioth> electroweak: ask
[02:24] <stefano> yes ask
[02:24] <electroweak> after i login my laptop is freezing
[02:24] <electroweak> on the screen kde is running written down
[02:25] <electroweak> but keyboard is not responding
[02:25] <stefano> did it ran before?
[02:25] <electroweak> or if i click anything on screen like menu or etc it`s freezing again
[02:26] <electroweak> not it`s the first installation i couldn`t see the desktop yet
[02:26] <stefano> then its more complicated, im not a total pro, sorry man
[02:27] <electroweak> any idea where can i find some info
[02:27] <|ARIES|> hiya all i need some help
[02:28] <electroweak> hi thats what i`m looking for too
[02:28] <nalioth> |ARIES|: ask
[02:28] <nalioth> electroweak: have you asked in #ubuntu ?
[02:28] <|ARIES|> i download the program and burned it but it wont let me instal anything
[02:28] <electroweak> no
[02:29] <stefano> electroweak: go ask in a forum
[02:30] <Hobbsee> |ARIES|: which program?
[02:30] <electroweak> ok thanks anyway i`ll go to forum
[02:30] <|ARIES|> Download Kubuntu 5.10 (breezy) thats what i dl and burned and it wont let me do anything
[02:32] <mac__> why does opening an AVI file on a DVD/CD cause it to be copied to /tmp/ when "Opening With" kaffeine, but not with other players, such as vlc or mplayer?  Can I disable this somehow??
[02:33] <johnnybezak> hey guys i use gnome *ducks* and i also use scribus. For some reason scribus isn't using the theme that is dictated in kcontrol, do you know why this might be? or how i could change it
[02:35] <rednaxel> hi all
[02:38] <electuZ> hi dear.
[02:39] <|ARIES|> so is any one able to help me out
[02:40] <nalioth> |ARIES|: what OS are you using now?
[02:40] <|ARIES|> 98
[02:40] <|ARIES|> se
[02:41] <nalioth> |ARIES|: does your machine boot from cdrom?
[02:41] <|ARIES|> yes i have it sut up lick that
[02:42] <|ARIES|> like
[02:42] <nalioth> |ARIES|: then by putting the cd-r into your drive and restarting, it should get you goin to kubuntu
[02:42] <dutch> good night all
[02:43] <|ARIES|> it dont
[02:43] <nalioth> |ARIES|: how did you burn it?
[02:43] <|ARIES|> with nero as a data cd
[02:44] <|ARIES|> x-window-system-core do i need that
[02:44] <electuZ> k3b is best..
[02:45] <nalioth> |ARIES|: you should use nero to 'burn iso image'
[02:47] <|ARIES|> i just looked and i cant find the burn iso thing on my nero
[02:47] <nalioth> |ARIES|: well, it's there somewhere (perhaps "burn iso image" or "burn cd image")
[02:48] <|ARIES|> ok i will look again Laughing Out Loud
[02:54] <_jim> Hey guys,Lookin for some help. Just recently installed kubuntu on an old G3 ppc (this machine) and I'e been havin keyboard troubles. Any takers?
[02:55] <nalioth> _jim: did you select the mac keyboard?
[02:55] <_jim> nalioth: I'm usin a generic usb keyboard
[02:56] <nalioth> _jim: so what is your question?
[02:57] <_jim> Thought I'd see if any1 was interested b4 blurtin it out!!
[02:58] <nalioth> just ask
[02:59] <_jim> Here it is: Everything seems to work fine, but after a while (doesn't seem to be a consistant time) I get a never ending stream of the most recent key typed.
[03:00] <nalioth> tried another keyboard?
[03:01] <_jim> An obvious question to which the answer is no.
[03:01] <nalioth> perhaps you should.
[03:01] <_jim> indeed
[03:10] <ubuntu> how do i disable x on startup? it's something terribly wrong with my x config file, so when x starts my screen turns white. i need to do some changes to it with the shell only
[03:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mirsh about bum
[03:11] <_jim> nalioth--> I'v bumped into one mention of the same problem on the forum, but with no replies.
[03:11] <mirsh> nalioth: bum?
[03:12] <Hobbsee> boot up manager, i think
[03:13] <_jim> nalioth--->I sent him a message and his reply stated that (in his case @least) it wasn't the keyboard @ fault. "Unfortunately, I never found a solution for it.  The reason why I stated I was "sure" it wasn't the keyboard/mouse is because it's a wireless setup, and ANY time any key on the board is hit, a led receive light will flash on the receiver. I noticed that during the times when it was messing up that the receive led was not receiving a
[03:13] <_jim>  to an OS or hardware issue (beyond the keyboard). Beyond that, I never took the time to try and narrow it down."
[03:13] <nalioth> yes, mirsh read the info about "boot up manager"
[03:14] <nalioth> that sounds crazy
[03:14] <mirsh> thanks all
[03:14] <_jim> crazy logic or crazy situation?
[03:15] <nalioth> crazy situation
[03:16] <_jim> NUTS!!
[03:16] <rednaxel> hi all
[03:18] <rednaxel> i moved from Ubuntu 5.10 and I miss that feature similar to "windows update" that was like embedded in GNOME's panel
[03:18] <rednaxel> is there something like that for Kubuntu ?
[03:18] <nalioth> rednaxel: not yet
[03:19] <rednaxel> nalioth: that was a GNOME thing?
[03:20] <_jim> How do fedora and/pr debian stack up against kubuntu?
[03:20] <nalioth> rednaxel: yes it was a synaptic function
[03:21] <rednaxel> nalioth: is there anything like that being done? or the best bet is "apt-get upgrade" ?
[03:22] <nalioth> rednaxel: if you like you can use kcron (or do it the old fashioned way) and have your apt-get update and upgrade as often as you like
[03:23] <jahshua> hello
[03:23] <jahshua> my konqueror browser is loading webpages -extremely- slow .. its like being on dialup, can anyone help ?
[03:25] <rednaxel> jahshua: are you sure it's the browser?
[03:26] <jahshua> well its the icon on the bottom left
[03:26] <jahshua> is that the browser
[03:26] <jahshua> it says web browser
[03:26] <jahshua> when i put my mouse over it
[03:27] <_jim> Josh--> I think red ment are u sure it's the browser which is goin slow.
[03:27] <jahshua> oh
[03:27] <jahshua> yes it is
[03:28] <jahshua> my firefox loads fast
[03:29] <_jim> Do u need to use konq? or can u stick 2 FF?
[03:29] <jahshua> oh i can stick to FF np
[03:29] <jahshua> i was just wondering why
[03:30] <_jim> Fair enough
[03:31] <jahshua> i have another question :)
[03:32] <jahshua> i have downloaded all the video things from restricted formats but i still cant play streaming .wmv files ... here is snapshot of my error
[03:32] <jahshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6243
[03:33] <_jim> Perhaps you need vlc? which leads nicely into my next question!
[03:33] <jahshua> i have vlc
[03:34] <jahshua> it tries to load with totem
[03:34] <jahshua> and i have changed file associations in konq too
[03:35] <nalioth> jahshua: you are out of luck thanks to uncle bill. the modern wmv/wma stuff won't work well, if at all
[03:35] <jahshua> fuck
[03:35] <jahshua> well
[03:35] <jahshua> it worked for someone in here last night
[03:36] <jahshua> with konq
[03:36] <jahshua> :(
[03:36] <_jim> bummer man!
[03:37] <jahshua> yeh
[03:37] <jahshua> sucks
[03:37] <jahshua> :(
[03:38] <_jim> I'm trying to get vlc via adept but it says the commit would break some packages
[03:38] <crimsun> are you using Dapper?
[03:38] <crimsun> I can't imagine it being uninstallable in Hoary or Breezy.
[03:38] <TooEarly> I have a raid-0 with two 80gig hd's...and kubuntu sees them, but only the windows part of it, and i have no problem mounting that (it's a fat32 partition) but the part i want to mount which has all my files, says it's unformatted..and i can't mount it..how do i make that work?
[03:39] <_jim> crimsum--->nope... hoary (ppc)
[03:40] <jahshua> can someone tell me how to set up a proxy with kubuntu.. is there a package for it
[03:41] <crimsun> jahshua: there are numerous proxy packages in Kubuntu
[03:41] <crimsun> just use Adept, apt-cache, or aptitude to search for one
[03:41] <jahshua> is it difficult to set up ?
[03:41] <crimsun> not really.
[03:41] <crimsun> privoxy isn't bad.
[03:42] <nalioth> jahshua: what kind of proxy?
[03:42] <jahshua> for web browsing
[03:46] <nalioth> jahshua: for privacy? to speed up your web experience?
[03:47] <jahshua> privacy
[03:47] <jahshua> hmm can a proxy speed up web browsing?
[03:47] <jahshua> interesting
[03:47] <nalioth> privoxy as mentioned by crimsun is a good choice
[03:47] <jahshua> ok
[03:48] <jahshua> i just installed it
[03:48] <jahshua> Dec 28 02:48:08 Privoxy(b7dec6c0) Fatal error: can't check configuration file '/home/joshua/config':  No such file or directory
[03:48] <jahshua> :(
[03:48] <jahshua> hmm
[03:50] <jahshua> it wont run
[03:52] <nalioth> jahshua: visit the privoxy homepage for configuration help
[03:52] <jahshua> ok
[03:54] <owner> can anyone help me opening Crossover program?
[03:54] <nalioth> owner: if you've paid for it, you have a toll free support number
[03:55] <owner> please.. I ain't going to pay for a PC program =P
[03:55] <nalioth> owner: then don't ask us in here
[03:56] <owner> you don't have to pay just to try the trial verison
[03:56] <owner> so what does that have to do with asking?
[03:56] <nalioth> owner: did it not come with a README?
[03:56] <owner> also, i was refering to opening the .Sh file
[03:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell owner about cli
[03:57] <owner> it only came with a file .Sh
[03:57] <owner> ooh.. with the terminal
[03:57] <owner> i can open the file
[03:57] <owner> thanks Nalioth
[03:58] <krystoff> hi there please do you know where i can find multiverse repository for kubuntu ?
[03:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell krystoff about repos
[03:58] <krystoff> thx nalioth
[03:58] <krystoff> ;)
[03:58] <nalioth> owner: for the record, .sh files are "shell scripts" keyword "shell"
[04:00] <owner> so I put ./install.crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh?
[04:00] <nalioth> that's a start, owner
[04:01] <owner> finally I'm understanding a bit of Linux.. xP
[04:01] <jahshua> oh gosh
[04:01] <jahshua> i cant figure this out :((((
[04:04] <krystoff> i'm looking for an equivalent app of planner for kde ?
[04:04] <krystoff> any idea please
[04:04] <nalioth> planner?
[04:05] <krystoff> yes an app of project managing
[04:05] <krystoff> management sorry
[04:06] <owner> how can I make my terminal transparent?
[04:06] <owner> or at least black
[04:06] <jahshua> settings/transparent
[04:06] <jahshua> sorry
[04:06] <jahshua> settings/schema
[04:07] <jahshua> then pick
[04:08] <jahshua> i know this is uber lame but does anyone here want to walk me throught the config set up for privoxy ?
[04:08] <owner> whats uber?
[04:09] <jahshua> super
[04:09] <nalioth> owner: ber is german for "over" as in 'over the top"
[04:09] <jahshua> yah
[04:09] <jahshua> ;(
[04:10] <owner> so over-the-top lame?
[04:10] <jahshua> yeh
[04:10] <jahshua> :(
[04:10] <owner> strange..
[04:10] <jahshua> not at all
[04:11] <owner> anybody know a good linux music program like Winamp for windows?
[04:12] <jahshua> xmms
[04:12] <owner> let me check it out. brb peeps. =)
[04:12] <jahshua> :(
[04:12] <jahshua> nalioth :)
[04:13] <nalioth> jahshua: the privoxy page didnt help?
[04:13] <nalioth> jahshua: i used to run it when i used windows but with linux i dont have the need anymore
[04:13] <owner> only for red hat and F.Core?
[04:13] <jahshua> i really cant understand it
[04:14] <owner> xmms is only for R.hat and and F.core linux?
[04:14] <jahshua> im at etc/privoxy/ and i can see the config file there but i dont know how to open it/set it up
[04:14] <nalioth> jahshua: i dont think you need it, personally
[04:14] <jahshua> no owner its not
[04:14] <jahshua> i just want to hide my ip on webpages
[04:14] <jahshua> thats all
[04:14] <owner> ooh..
[04:14] <owner> sorry I'm new to linux
[04:14] <owner> had it for a day now
[04:14] <jahshua> so am i :)
[04:14] <jahshua> i have had it for 2 weeks
[04:14] <owner> how long you had it Jahshua?
[04:14] <owner> lol
[04:14] <owner> that isn't new
[04:14] <jahshua> :)
[04:15] <jahshua> oh yes it is
[04:15] <owner> i had it for a day man
[04:15] <jahshua> lol
[04:15] <jahshua> well yeh
[04:15] <jahshua> but i can rememeber
[04:15] <nalioth> jahshua: there is no way to do that unless you run privoxy on a system that is totally seperate from your home network
[04:15] <jahshua> being in here on my first night
[04:15] <jahshua> oh ok nalioth
[04:15] <owner> me too
[04:15] <owner> the things I learn from linux is installing a .BiN
[04:21] <jahshua> ahh so it is tor that i need
[04:21] <owner> so many people on, and were the only ones talking
[04:21] <jahshua> not that understand how to use it
[04:21] <jahshua> YET
[04:21] <jahshua> yeh
[04:21] <jahshua> haha usually its much more active
[04:21] <jahshua> i think its cause of the holiday season
[04:21] <FHX> Hey all
[04:21] <nalioth> jahshua: tor users are banned from many ubuntu irc channels
[04:21] <FHX> I was wondering if someone could help me out? How do I install .tar.gz files?
[04:21] <jahshua> hi FHX
[04:21] <nalioth> FHX: did you not ask this yesterday?
[04:22] <FHX> I did.
[04:22] <jahshua> ok nalioth but i wont use it for irc anyway, i have my shell for that :)
[04:22] <FHX> And then I went to sleep and dsaid I would continue in the morning
[04:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about compile
[04:22] <FHX> Thanks, so I basically follow those instructions?
[04:22] <FHX> Hang on..so I have to do this everytime I install a .tar.gz file?
[04:22] <nalioth> FHX: if you have any questions you can ask in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <FHX> Ok
[04:25] <krystoff> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:25] <krystoff> what's wrong here please ?
[04:27] <eirejah> ubotu: tell jaheire about compile
[04:28] <krystoff> ubotu: tell krystoff about compile
[04:31] <krystoff> i don't understand what about configure complains
[04:31] <krystoff> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:31] <krystoff> any idea please ?
[04:37] <FHX> How do you know when universe & multiverse have been configured properly?
[04:41] <nalioth> krystoff: some source calls gcc incorrectly
[04:45] <dob2> hi
[04:45] <dob2> where can i find a list of kubuntu packages ?
[04:46] <nalioth> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <dob2> thanks
[04:55] <dob2> mc is not on breezy?
[04:55] <nalioth> dob2: it is, enable universe and multiverse and you'll have many many more tools to play with
[04:55] <nalioth> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:57] <eirejah> hello i would like to start to learn some computer languages with kubuntu .. can anyone point me in a good direction .. i was readin about Qbasic but it says you have to use ms-dos .. is there an alternative for kubuntu ?
[04:58] <Hentai^XP> eirejah: check out python
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Hentai eXPerince?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Ah
[04:58] <Hobbsee> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Now to figure out how to instal a new KDM theme
[04:58] <Hentai^XP> DaSkreech: yes?
[04:58] <eirejah> but what shell/dos window do i use for the commands?
[04:59] <Hentai^XP> eirejah: you don't
[04:59] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: change a line in kdmrc
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Does it matter if it's the top line or not?
[04:59] <eirejah> what do i use
[04:59] <Hentai^XP> text editor
[04:59] <Hobbsee> it's the line that talks about the background
[05:01] <Hentai^XP> DaSkreech: did you want something?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ah...
[05:02] <DaSkreech> No Just thought that would be a cool name of a band
[05:02] <dob2> but universe is like the debian sid ?
[05:02] <Hentai^XP> ok lol
[05:02] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech:
[05:02] <Hobbsee> UseTheme=true
[05:02] <Hobbsee> # The theme to use for the greeter. Can point to either a directory or an XML
[05:02] <Hobbsee> # file.
[05:02] <Hobbsee> # Default is ""
[05:02] <Hobbsee> Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu
[05:02] <Hobbsee> you're looking for that section of the file
[05:02] <Hobbsee>  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc being the file
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ohh
[05:03] <DaSkreech> I was using ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Which I  guess makes no sense :)
[05:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, i tried that first too, but heard the solution yesterday
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Since you can't have a local customised Login screen :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Duh!
[05:04] <Hobbsee> lol
[05:04] <Hobbsee> instructions on kde-look are wrong, i suspect
[05:04] <DaSkreech> So now the question is where should I throw the actual theme?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> how about /usr/share../kdm?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Damn it
[05:07] <DaSkreech> You should be able to initiate a 5 minute sudo gui session
[05:07] <owner989> if i want to install another linux distro on a separate partition can i use the same swap partition as ubuntu for it
[05:07] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: there are various ways - but it's still *very* risky
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:07] <Hobbsee> owner989: yes, you can - i do that with breezy and dapper
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Really?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: to get a root GUI, yes
[05:08] <DaSkreech> It's a terrible idea :) I was just ranting
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Temporarily?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:08] <`Nomad> !automake
[05:08] <ubotu> `Nomad: Wish i knew
[05:08] <Hobbsee> PM?
[05:08] <`Nomad> !repositories
[05:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:08] <`Nomad> !easysource
[05:08] <ubotu> I heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:08] <owner989> thanks hobbsee
[05:09] <owner989> but why do you run both dapper and breezy
[05:09] <eirejah> can someone tell me what the most basic computer language is that is installed on kubuntu for me to learn ?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Was Pm @ me?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yes
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Binary?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: sure
[05:10] <Hobbsee> ok, see your PM's
[05:10] <Hentai^XP> eirejah pick a language to learn and start learning it
[05:10] <eirejah> thats what im trying to do Hentai
[05:10] <eirejah> im a complete n00b
[05:10] <eirejah> so where should i start
[05:10] <Hentai^XP> http://www.python.org/
[05:10] <Hentai^XP> there for python
[05:11] <DaSkreech> dive into python ships with Kubuntu
[05:11] <DaSkreech> read it
[05:11] <eirejah> is that a good one for beginner though?
[05:11] <eirejah> ok
[05:11] <Hentai^XP> thats what people say
[05:11] <Hentai^XP> I never tried to learn it
[05:11] <eirejah> ok
[05:11] <Hentai^XP> I tried C++
[05:12] <DaSkreech> eirejah: It's certainly not overly burdensome
[05:12] <eirejah> ok cool thanks
[05:12] <Hentai^XP> all you really need is
[05:12] <Hentai^XP> info on the language syntax, a text editor, and a compiler
[05:14] <eirejah> right
[05:14] <eirejah> but i want to _learn_ it
[05:15] <Hentai^XP> than learn eirejah http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
[05:15] <eirejah> im going to!
[05:15] <eirejah> :)
[05:16] <Hentai^XP> lol
[05:16] <nalioth> eirejah: python has several books available for free you can learn from
[05:16] <eirejah> ok cool
[05:17] <DaSkreech> nalioth:  One comes with Kubuntu!
[05:17] <DaSkreech> nalioth: The cool one too!
[05:17] <nalioth> ty, DaSkreech
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:19] <murtun> Hey all
[05:20] <murtun> I really love kubuntu as a workstation, i was wandering what it was like running as a server?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Umm
[05:21] <DaSkreech> murtun: You mean as opposed to like ubuntu as a server?
[05:21] <murtun> no i mean as apposed to like Debian or RH or something
[05:23] <DaSkreech> murtun: Ah well .. fairly well I suppose
[05:23] <murtun> ah right
[05:23] <DaSkreech> I've never seen a comparison of it with debian :)
[05:23] <murtun> how dya mean?
[05:23] <DaSkreech> But in most cases since you would be running it with out a GUI anyway...
[05:38] <`Nomad> Hi all.. I'm encountering this error while trying to update my packages  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/481162
[05:39] <`Nomad> libfame0 is not installed, but cannot be installed because it is already there?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> use force install for that second package...
[05:40] <Hobbsee> oh, oops, sorry
[05:40] <`Nomad> :(
[05:40] <`Nomad> It just loops
[05:40] <nalioth> Hobbsee: oops? with --force? OOOPS
[05:40] <Hobbsee> didnt see that you already had...
[05:40] <Hobbsee> what non-standard repos are you using, and why?
[05:40] <crimsun> first of all, don't use unofficial repos.
[05:40] <crimsun> second, purge libfame-0.9
[05:40] <`Nomad> I just checked off all from the easysource page.
[05:41] <`Nomad> I thought they were all good, except the Seavas? one, never works
[05:41] <`Nomad> purge?
[05:41] <`Nomad> dpkg -r ?
[05:41] <crimsun> dpkg -P
[05:41] <nalioth> `Nomad: sudo apt-get remove --purge libfame0
[05:44] <`Nomad> woah.. I had to remove a few packages because of dependencies, but it unclogged after that and started installing all the previous packages that got stuck :)
[05:46] <`Nomad> ok, removed plf and others from sources.list.. Isn't the KDE 3.5 an unofficial repos. too?
[05:48] <Hobbsee> kde3.5 is official
[05:48] <Hobbsee> more or less, anyway
[05:48] <Hobbsee> as official as the official universe, and multiverse, and all that
[05:52] <`Nomad> seems to be fien now, thanks a lot
[05:52] <`Nomad> fine
[05:53] <`Nomad> So PLF is not a good repos. to use?
[05:53] <nalioth> `Nomad: dont' keep them active
[05:53] <nalioth> `Nomad: use them to get what you want, then disable the URL
[05:54] <`Nomad> oh ok
[05:54] <nalioth> `Nomad: and hope you havent introduced a foreign package into your box that'll eventually break it
[05:54] <murtun> what is that application that sits on the desktop and tells me my local weather forcast?
[05:54] <nalioth> murtun: there are many
[05:54] <`Nomad> nalioth: I probably did
[05:55] <nalioth> `Nomad: time will tell
[05:55] <murtun> nalioth: can u name one?
[05:56] <murtun> nvm
[05:59] <`Nomad> thanks again, good night!
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: It works :-)
[06:05] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:07] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: seen the BSoD screensaver?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Of course :)
[06:07] <Hobbsee> :P use that!
[06:07] <DaSkreech> I nearly induced a heartattack with that
[06:11] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[06:29] <LoneWolf071> how do i cahnge the font sizew, not for just KDE, but all programs, likexchat and gaim?
[06:29] <smonkey> Why does using sfdisk on a disk cause Kubuntu to try to mount all of the partitions on the disk?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> LoneWolf071: system settings, appearances, fonts
[06:39] <LoneWolf071> where is system settings?
[06:40] <Hobbsee> on your kmenu
[06:41] <LoneWolf071> the big block K in the bottom corner?
[06:42] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:43] <LoneWolf071> system?
[06:44] <LoneWolf071> that's all i have....
[06:45] <LoneWolf071> ?
[06:45] <LoneWolf071> Hobbsee, is that irt?
[06:45] <Hobbsee> LoneWolf071: are you on hoary or breezy?
[06:46] <LoneWolf071> breezy
[06:46] <Hobbsee> otherwise use alt+f2, kcontrol
[06:46] <Hobbsee> hmmm...should be there on yoru kmenu
[06:46] <LoneWolf071> changing the font with klcontrol doesn't work on xchat and gaim
[06:46] <LoneWolf071> or the terminal
[06:47] <Hobbsee> then look at the gtk-fonts section - dont remember what it's called, and check it there
[06:51] <gold> I'm having trouble with the ubuntu apt-get repository
[07:06] <ingrato> is there a way to install lame from adept?
[07:06] <ingrato> it's not listed in adept
[07:06] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[07:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:07] <Hobbsee> enable multiverse, and it's there
[07:07] <Hobbsee> !info lame
[07:07] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[07:08] <ingrato> so what is it supposed to be under? breezy?
[07:42] <bongohack> does kubuntu have a traceroute command?
[07:43] <nalioth> bongohack: it does
[08:08] <ingrato> does anybody use kmymoney?
[08:26] <ejinside> which repository can I get madwifi from?  I read something about universe restricted modules or something but I don't have the actual URL
[08:31] <ejinside> *cough*
[08:32] <sampan> !info madwifi
 Package 'madwifi' does not exist.
[08:34] <Chani> I installed nwn on gentoo, but I'm having some weird 3d problems and I wanted to try it from kubuntu. can anyone think of an easy way to run it from there? preferably without having to copy over all 1.2gb or so of data
[08:40] <hume> hi, i'm runnng a new kubuntu installation on an IBM X31, with 12" screen at resolution 1024x768,  and am having great problems in tweaking the look of KDE to my liking - there are a lot of space between the items on menys, even though I set fonts small - anyone knows how to make menus more compact?
[08:40] <ingrato> does anybody know if there's a program for taxes? like turbotax for windows?
[08:41] <hume> i have a hunch it is seomthing to do with the dots per inch resoluton .... but where to set this in KDE?
[08:44] <ingrato> does anybody know if there's an opensource tax software?
[08:51] <FHX> How do I get amarok to play my mp3 fileS? i can get other players to play them but not amarok, could some please advise?
[08:51] <mac2612> fhx, what happens when you try and play an mp3 file?
[08:51] <FHX> it opens a different player and plays it in that
[08:51] <FHX> but that player is really crappy..
[08:51] <mac2612> I mean in amarok
[08:51] <FHX> when i try to play it in amarok it says: some media could not be loaded
[08:51] <ingrato> I think amarok needs the mp3 decoder
[08:51] <ingrato> at least that's what it tells me
[08:51] <mac2612> yeah
[08:52] <FHX> Where can I find that?
[08:52] <ingrato> i dunno
[08:52] <posthuman> [4295526.560000]  hub 5-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2
[08:52] <posthuman> does anyone have any idea how to disable this error message
[08:52] <mac2612> well first you need to add universe to your deb sources
[08:52] <posthuman> it floods all of my virtual consoles, making them ususable ;(
[08:52] <mac2612> then install the gstreamer plugin for mp3
[08:52] <FHX> Hm..could you tell me how to do that? I'm very new to all of this. How do I add universe to my deb sources?
[08:53] <mac2612> do you use synaptic to manage packages?
[08:54] <FHX> Adept
[08:55] <posthuman> kynaptic is nice
[08:55] <mac2612> it is
[08:55] <FHX> How do I use kynaptic?
[08:55] <mac2612> wait one moment FHX
[08:55] <FHX> Okie
[08:55] <mac2612> posthuman, it looks like something is drawing too much power from your USB ports
[08:55] <posthuman> Yes =(.  Well, one of the hubs is actually broken
[08:56] <posthuman> but the rest of the plugs work
[08:56] <posthuman> on some rpm distros..most actually, the error only floods one console
[08:56] <posthuman> which is no problem
[08:56] <posthuman> but on ubuntu..its everyone
[08:56] <posthuman> I'm trying to figure out how to confine it to one, or disable it =x
[08:56] <mac2612> ahh....
[08:59] <hume> anyone knows how to set the size of icons in the system menu of kubuntu/KDE? or the system desktop "dots per inch" resolution?
[09:01] <FHX> So uh..
[09:01] <FHX> amarok, kynaptic, help?
[09:01] <posthuman> Ok, basically you just use the 'find' to search amarok
[09:02] <posthuman> or wait, what are you trying to do?
[09:02] <posthuman> you can install kynaptic with adept
[09:03] <posthuman> if you want
[09:03] <posthuman> I prefer it
[09:04] <mac2612> ok
[09:04] <mac2612> now
[09:04] <mac2612> FHX
[09:04] <mac2612> open adept
[09:04] <FHX> I'm trying to get it to recognize mp3
[09:04] <FHX> ok
[09:04] <posthuman> ok, you need to install.. gstreamer-mad
[09:04] <mac2612> go Adept-manage repositories
[09:04] <posthuman> I believe
[09:04] <FHX> installed
[09:04] <FHX> mhm, i'm in adept-manage repositories
[09:05] <mac2612> ok
[09:05] <mac2612> now look for the line that reads something like
[09:05] <mac2612> deb      http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu          breezy         main restricted
[09:05] <FHX> mac2612: can i send you a screenie?
[09:05] <FHX> i messed with my repositories earlier
[09:05] <FHX> so now i don't know what i've done
[09:05] <mac2612> sure go ahead
[09:06] <FHX> mac2612: http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2G1GRVC15KJXY14GFO5K35PPBP
[09:06] <posthuman> why the hell is kubuntu so much faster than mandrake?
[09:06] <posthuman> lol
[09:07] <mac2612> ok fhx, and that updates good and everything?
[09:11] <Snake__> !multiverse
[09:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:11] <mac2612> thanks snake
[09:11] <Snake__> huh?
[09:11] <Snake__> lol
[09:11] <Snake__> ....
[09:11] <mac2612> lol
[09:11] <mac2612> that was relevant to fhx
[09:11] <Snake__> It was?
[09:12] <mac2612> and his issue
[09:12] <mac2612> yea
[09:12] <Snake__> ,,,, I just walked in and did that for me..>.>
[09:12] <Snake__> lol
[09:12] <mac2612> :P
[09:12] <Snake__> Why whats up with FHX ?
[09:12] <mac2612> his mp3's aren't playing in amarok
[09:13] <Snake__> Meh screw that program
[09:13] <Snake__> XMMS forever
[09:13] <mac2612> so we're working on getting the mp3 plugins for gstreamer
[09:13] <posthuman> amarok = much sexier
[09:13] <FHX> weird, lag
[09:13] <FHX> sorry
[09:13] <Snake__> xmms = much more skinnable
[09:13] <Hentai^XP> FHX you know about imageshack?
[09:13] <Snake__> amarok = never worked for me :-P
[09:13] <posthuman> lol
[09:13] <FHX> mac2612: Was my screenie correct?
[09:14] <FHX> as in were the universe/multiverse things correct?
[09:14] <FHX> Hentai^XP: Yeah..but yousendit's pretty nice too.
[09:14] <FHX> XD
[09:14] <Hentai^XP> lol
[09:14] <mac2612> yeah it looks alright to me fhx
[09:14] <mac2612> now
[09:14] <Snake__> Man I got to go read this stupid booklet on driving...i dun wannaa
[09:14] <Hentai^XP> don't crash
[09:14] <mac2612> heh
[09:15] <FHX> Ok
[09:15] <FHX> what's the next step?
[09:15] <mac2612> you need to install some packages.....hang on
[09:15] <Snake__> lol
[09:15] <FHX> ok
[09:16] <Snake__> Does anyone but me have a issue (Mainly with adept) where they have to run the program 2 or  3 times to get it to come up sometimes?
[09:17] <mac2612> ehh....just install.... gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:17] <FHX> i don't have its plugins in adept
[09:18] <mac2612> oh yeah....you DID update your sources?
[09:18] <mac2612> go to adept-update sources
[09:19] <FHX> ok
[09:19] <FHX> updating..99%..
[09:19] <mac2612> ok
[09:19] <FHX> done
[09:19] <mac2612> now for quick filter do
[09:19] <FHX> ah okay, lots of gstreamer stuff now
[09:19] <mac2612> yeah
[09:19] <FHX> do i install them all?
[09:19] <mac2612> nah
[09:19] <mac2612> just quick filter for
[09:19] <mac2612> gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:20] <Snake__> Anyone? lol
[09:20] <FHX> there are only two, one is already installed, is that correct?
[09:21] <FHX> Ok installing that second plugin now..
[09:21] <mac2612> gstreamer-plugins-multiverse isn't installed, and gstreamer-plugins is?
[09:21] <mac2612> ok
[09:21] <Snake__> Someone explain to me why I have everything for gimp...except the program on my list??
[09:22] <Snake__> (adept list that is)
[09:22] <posthuman> o.O all I had to do was install gstreamer-mad and it worked
[09:23] <mac2612> yeah I know posthuman, it's probably in his amarok config somewhere, but I'm just making sure he has all the plugins he needs first
[09:23] <Snake__> Guys....come on its like that for XMMS too!!
[09:23] <FHX> Ok done
[09:23] <mac2612> ok
[09:23] <mac2612> now
[09:23] <mac2612> open amarok and try to play something
[09:24] <posthuman> ah gotcha
[09:24] <FHX> O.O
[09:24] <FHX> Works like a charm ;)
[09:24] <mac2612> :-D!
[09:24] <FHX> =D
[09:24] <FHX> Yay! Thanks =)
[09:25] <mac2612> no problem fhx
[09:25] <Snake__> Guys!
[09:25] <Snake__> Help!? lol
[09:25] <mac2612> what's wrong snake?
[09:25] <Snake__> I can't seem to get the gimp, or xmms off the reps
[09:26] <Snake__> all the plugins and add ons for the programs show up, but not the programs themselves
[09:26] <mac2612> try this
[09:26] <mac2612> close adept
[09:26] <Snake__> ok
[09:26] <mac2612> sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <Snake__> Done
[09:26] <mac2612> sudo apt-get install gimp
[09:27] <Snake__> Im going to paste in 4 lines
[09:27] <Snake__> is that ok?
[09:27] <mac2612> I think it will let you do that
[09:27] <Snake__> Package gimp is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:27] <Snake__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:27] <Snake__> is only available from another source
[09:27] <Snake__> E: Package gimp has no installation candidate
[09:27] <mac2612> can I see what your sources look like?
[09:28] <Snake__> Yulp hang on ill pastebin it
[09:28] <mac2612> k
[09:29] <Snake__> hang on
[09:30] <Snake__> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/481273
[09:30] <Snake__> And I think I just found it
[09:31] <Snake__> I got to uncomment line 10 and 11 right?
[09:31] <mac2612> uncomment 5 and 6
[09:31] <Snake__> thats what i ment**
[09:32] <mac2612> yea
[09:32] <Snake__> Figures..
[09:32] <mac2612> save
[09:32] <Snake__> stupid little things that screw me up
[09:32] <mac2612> sudo apt-get update
[09:32] <Snake__> and so it works
[09:32] <Snake__> it works :)
[09:32] <mac2612> :D
[09:32] <mac2612> sudo apt-get moo
[09:32] <Snake__> Yea thats funny
[09:32] <Snake__> know whats funnier?
[09:32] <mac2612> what?
[09:32] <FHX> Hm..my Opera browser just quit on me, is that normal?
[09:32] <Snake__> sudo aptitude moo -v
[09:33] <Snake__> then sudo aptitude moo -v -v
[09:33] <Snake__> so on and so forth adding a v each time
[09:34] <FHX> Say, I don't have qtparted!!
[09:34] <mac2612> hehe :-P
[09:34] <mac2612> fhx, probably a bug in opera
[09:34] <FHX> i just remembered, i need it.
[09:34] <Snake__> mac2612: its a elephant being eaten by a snake
[09:34] <Snake__> duhh
[09:34] <Snake__> lol
[09:34] <FHX> i remember looking yesterday and I didn't have it either
[09:35] <FHX> How do I install qtparted?
[09:35] <mac2612> close adept
[09:36] <FHX> ok
[09:36] <mac2612> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[09:36] <posthuman> hmm question..is there a way to make a cdrom drive automatically unmount when you hit eject?
[09:36] <FHX> Gotcha
[09:36] <FHX> it's installing now i think
[09:36] <FHX> Hey..would you guys recommend I rune ntirely on Kubuntu and not have windows at all?
[09:37] <FHX> or would you recommend dual boots?
[09:37] <mac2612> depends fhx
[09:37] <FHX> Hm..it's odne
[09:37] <mac2612> do you have any software that is windows-only?
[09:37] <FHX> but it says no such file or directory
[09:37] <FHX> mac2612: Nope. But I wiped windows. Kubuntu's my only OS
[09:37] <FHX> i was just wondering if I should reinstall windows then partition and reinstall Kubuntu, but is there a need for that? or can I live on Kubuntu?
[09:38] <FHX> stat (2 No such file or directory) W: you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:38] <mac2612> you can live on kubuntu as long as you don't have any windows-specific apps
[09:38] <FHX> Okay, good.
[09:38] <mac2612> and even then many of them can be run on linux
[09:38] <FHX> can i run things like dreamweaver/flash/adobe cs on here?
[09:38] <mac2612> in vmware or qemu you can do that
[09:38] <Snake__> Who called amarok sexy....
[09:38] <mac2612> possibly in wine
[09:38] <FHX> Hm..
[09:38] <mac2612> fhx: sudo apt-get update
[09:38] <FHX> ok
[09:39] <posthuman> <--me
[09:39] <FHX> 99%...
[09:39] <FHX> Snake__: It is sexy, when you can find skins
[09:39] <FHX> I don't know where they are or where to find them though. -.-
[09:39] <mac2612> www.kde-look.org
[09:39] <FHX> Nice ^^
[09:39] <Snake__> posthuman: right now, this is the ugliest thing on earth
[09:39] <Snake__> lol
[09:39] <FHX> E: Some index files failed to download, they ahve been ignored, or old ones have been used instead
[09:39] <posthuman> bah
[09:39] <posthuman> I love it
[09:40] <Snake__> That doesnt play MP3s without a whole bunch of screwing around
[09:40] <Snake__> ubotu: tell Snake__ about mp3
[09:40] <mac2612> I think you screwed up a couple lines in your sources fhx
[09:40] <mac2612> !mp3
[09:40] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.11 Stopped
[09:40] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:40] <FHX> ..how can I fix that?
[09:41] <FHX> How do I fix the sources? x.x
[09:42] <mac2612> hang on let me look at your sources again
[09:42] <mac2612> go to adept-manage repositories
[09:42] <mac2612> and for the last 2 lines
[09:42] <mac2612> right click and hit "disable"
[09:43] <Snake__> Well ive come to the conclusion that amarok will never stream MP3s
[09:43] <FHX> Snake__: Wha? but it works fine
[09:43] <joss193> where is 5.10 kernel source_
[09:44] <Snake__> Mine doesnt lol
[09:44] <joss193> 2.6.12 as it shoult be according to uname -a
[09:44] <FHX> Snake__: Did you try what I did?
[09:44] <Snake__> Hell it doesnt play them at all
[09:44] <Snake__> What do you do?
[09:44] <FHX> Ok last two lines disabled
[09:44] <FHX> Snake__: I followed that mac2612 told me, fetch updates and install plugins. ^^
[09:44] <Snake__> I did all that
[09:45] <FHX> Snake__: Hm..well .. I also used EasyBreezy
[09:45] <FHX> that might have helped?
[09:45] <FHX> mac2612: both disabled
[09:45] <Snake__> Just for kicks let me install programs....whats easybreezy??
[09:45] <joss193> please tell me dudes where is the kernel source
[09:46] <joss193> i have few time and i need to compile my wlan driver
[09:46] <hxkoh> bleah dc'd
[09:46] <joss193> doesnt kubuntu devs know that they should leave source luying somewhere?
[09:46] <hxkoh> Ok what do I do now that they are both disabled?
[09:46] <joss193> could someone tell what package it is , or where can i get it
[09:46] <Snake__> joss193: if you don't know where it is you probly shouldn't touch it :-D
[09:46] <Snake__> jp jp
[09:47] <joss193> Snake_: installed kubuntu first time
[09:47] <joss193> usually it is in usr/src/linux
[09:47] <Snake__> Why do you need to mess with the kernal??
[09:47] <joss193> symlinked to kernel
[09:47] <Hentai^XP> kernel
[09:47] <mac2612> hit "close"
[09:47] <mac2612> then
[09:47] <mac2612> adept-fetch updates
[09:47] <Snake__> amarok is worthless I tell you
[09:47] <Snake__> WORTHLESS
[09:47] <joss193> Snake_: for good sakes it told wy wlan card
[09:48] <joss193> officeconnect 3com
[09:48] <joss193> driver not included by kubuntu
[09:48] <Snake__> Most wireless drivers arn't....hmmm well I dunno :)
[09:48] <hxkoh> 99%...
[09:48] <joss193> cane someone tell me where is the source
[09:49] <hxkoh> ok updates done
[09:49] <Snake__> Anyone that gets my amarok working gets a cookie
[09:49] <hxkoh> Snake__: but but..by the time it gets here it'll be soggy. =(
[09:50] <Snake__> Ill email it to you
[09:50] <FHX> Email! Now there's a though! Will it be .jpg, .gif, ooh no I know, swf!
[09:50] <mac2612> argh, sorry about that guys
[09:50] <FHX> *thought
[09:50] <Snake__> mac2612: want a cookie?
[09:50] <FHX> s' ok ^^ updates done
[09:51] <Snake__> !mp3
[09:51] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.11 Stopped
[09:51] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <penguinzdr> i'm trying to mount a diskette formatted on windows, but i get the following message:mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified . what command should i enter?
[09:52] <Snake__> posthuman: could you help me with amarok?
[09:52] <Snake__> If not, im just going to uninstall it
[09:52] <Snake__> Bah screw it, its gone
[09:53] <FHX> Hm..what should I do now?
[09:53] <posthuman> oops sorry, was away
[09:53] <posthuman> o.O
[09:54] <Snake__> lol
[09:54] <Snake__> Why would anyone go through the trouble of setting up all this MP3 crap when they can just download XMMS and get it all with it out of the box
[09:55] <FHX> ...
[09:55] <FHX> Um
[09:55] <FHX> gah
[09:55] <FHX> he left
[09:56] <FHX> TT_TT
[09:56] <Snake__> lol
[09:56] <FHX> TT_TT
[09:56] <posthuman> because they need a music manager
[09:56] <posthuman> amarok has search and stuff
[09:56] <Snake__> hes probly having network issues
[09:56] <FHX> *wacks Snake__ on head for laughing at my plight*
[09:56] <FHX> >.>
[09:56] <posthuman> and collection info
[09:56] <Snake__> Well I would like a "Music manager" however my "MM" won't work.
[09:56] <Snake__> lol
[09:56] <posthuman> it's really easy to setup though..all I had to do is install gstreamer-mad
[09:56] <posthuman> most distros already have this installed
[09:56] <posthuman> =\
[09:56] <Snake__> Ya i got that and gstreamer plugins and nothing
[09:57] <posthuman> well, I installed kubuntu today, and thats all I had to do =i
[09:57] <posthuman> not even the plugins
[09:57] <posthuman> just mad
[09:58] <Snake__> Hmm
[09:58] <Snake__> I dunno but I gotta go read this book for a test 2morrow
[09:58] <Snake__> ttyl
[09:59] <FHX> XD READING?
[09:59] <Snake|Reading> Yea dude
[09:59] <FHX> Oh ok, for a test
[10:00] <FHX> Haha, all the best =)
[10:00] <Snake|Reading> Got to read for this drivingtest
[10:00] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:00] <FHX> XDD
[10:00] <penguinzdr> what's the filesystem for windows diskettes?
[10:00] <Snake|Reading> NTFS?
[10:01] <Snake|Reading> For windows hard drives
[10:01] <Snake|Reading> its NTFS
[10:01] <Snake|Reading> Diskettes as in floppys, its FAT
[10:01] <FHX> mac T_T come back onlineeee
[10:01] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:01] <FHX> *wails*
[10:01] <penguinzdr> and in "mount -t", what's the type?
[10:01] <FHX> maaccccc
[10:01] <Snake|Reading> Hmmm dunno
[10:01] <FHX> *sulks*
[10:02] <penguinzdr> :((
[10:03] <FHX> ohh maaccc?? wheerree arree yoouuuu?
[10:03] <FHX> XD
[10:03] <Snake|Reading> ..
[10:03] <FHX> ?
[10:03] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:03] <FHX> Mhm. Nicks are deceiving, Snake|Reading ? No..snake not reading.
[10:04] <Snake|Reading> Im supposed to be
[10:04] <Snake|Reading> I'm working on it
[10:04] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:04] <penguinzdr> argh
[10:04] <FHX> Snake|Reading: key word: working
[10:04] <penguinzdr> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:05] <Snake|trying|to|> lol
[10:05] <FHX_laughing> Heh.
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> penguinzdr: I wil help you
[10:06] <penguinzdr> thanks
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> but I will warn you, this is the only part of this manual you will want to read
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> the rest is outdated, and will probly screw up your syste,
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> system**
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> Ok?
[10:06] <penguinzdr> okay
[10:06] <Snake|trying|to|> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:07] <penguinzdr> thanks
[10:07] <Snake|trying|to|> Yep
[10:08] <penguinzdr> ummm... isn't that a manual for mounting harddrive partitions?
[10:08] <Snake|trying|to|> Oh....I thought thats what you were mounting...
[10:08] <Snake|trying|to|> >>
[10:08] <FHX> guys
[10:08] <FHX> how do i install a theme?
[10:09] <Snake|trying|to|> Or am I dumb?
[10:09] <FHX> i'm following the read me but it doesn't make much sense ot me
[10:09] <Snake|trying|to|> penguinzdr?
[10:09] <penguinzdr> Snake|trying|to|: No, I'm trying to mount a floppy
[10:09] <Snake|trying|to|> OhhhHhhhhhhhh
[10:09] <Snake|trying|to|> Mmmm dunno that one off hand
[10:10] <Snake|trying|to|> sorry...
[10:10] <FHX> XD for sure this time?
[10:11] <FHX> Wherreee iss MAC
[10:11] <FHX> get online now. >.>
[10:12] <penguinzdr> SUCCESS!!!!
[10:12] <FHX> penguinzdr: Gj
[10:13] <FHX> Geez, so many packages to choose from.
[10:13] <penguinzdr> wow.. fs type msdos...
[10:13] <FHX> *grumbles* where is mac anyway.
[10:16] <vado> hello
[10:17] <FHX> Hi?
[10:20] <penguinzdr> how can I install XML::Simple?
[10:21] <FHX> Who knows how to install Kubuntu themes?
[10:22] <FHX> I cd'd the theme but nothing else will work
[10:22] <FHX> ./configure
[10:22] <FHX> that's about it.
[10:22] <penguinzdr> kubuntu themes? you mean KDE styles, right?
[10:22] <FHX> yeah
[10:22] <FHX> KDE styles
[10:22] <FHX> I downloaded lipstik-2.1
[10:22] <penguinzdr> ./configure, than make and sudo make install
[10:22] <FHX> the commands make and sudo make install don't work
[10:22] <FHX> I tried.
[10:23] <FHX> and i've downladed qt & libsomething dev
[10:23] <FHX> Really weird.
[10:23] <Snake|Reading>             are these people retarded...it says I have to stay one car length back for every 10 mph im traveling
[10:23] <Snake|Reading> ....
[10:23] <Snake|Reading> dumb
[10:23] <penguinzdr> enter the command: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:23] <FHX> Snake|Reading: XDD
[10:23] <FHX> You're *supposed* to be reading.
[10:23] <Snake|Reading> I am
[10:23] <Snake|Reading> I just read that lol
[10:23] <FHX> No.
[10:23] <FHX> XD
[10:23] <FHX> penguinzdr: Enter it after cd?
[10:24] <penguinzdr> enter it where you want
[10:24] <FHX> what's build essential?
[10:24] <Snake|Reading> It lets you complie programs
[10:24] <FHX> prog that will identify make ?
[10:24] <FHX> ah
[10:24] <FHX> good.
[10:24] <penguinzdr> that's a meta package for compiling apps
[10:25] <penguinzdr> Snake|Reading: what are you reading?
[10:25] <FHX> XD after unpacking 1623kb additional space, want to continue? [y/n] 
[10:25] <FHX> XD why do they even bother to ask?haha
[10:25] <FHX> ok done with that
[10:25] <FHX> what next?
[10:25] <penguinzdr> than again make and sudo make install
[10:25] <FHX> doesn't work
[10:26] <FHX> i typed: make <enter>
[10:26] <FHX> nothing, it says no targets specified and makefile found. stop.
[10:26] <Snake|Reading> penguinzdr: Digest of Ohio Motor Vehicle Laws
[10:26] <penguinzdr> wow
[10:26] <penguinzdr> FHX: run ./configure again
[10:26] <FHX> ?
[10:26] <FHX> kay, running.
[10:27] <Snake|Reading> penguinzdr: Going for my written test 2morrow to get my lisence (sp?)
[10:27] <Snake|Reading> Finally
[10:27] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:27] <FHX> HAHA
[10:27] <FHX> it says: Good - your configure finished. Start make now.
[10:27] <penguinzdr> paste the output from ./configure in pastebin.com and show it to me
[10:27] <FHX> XD that's fudging hilarious.
[10:28] <FHX> *types make <enter>* weee
[10:28] <FHX> thanks penguinzdr   =)
[10:28] <penguinzdr> you're welcome
[10:28] <FHX> after make i go : sudo make install?
[10:28] <penguinzdr> yes
[10:29] <FHX> ok done
[10:29] <FHX> what next?
[10:29] <justanother> g' morning guys
[10:29] <FHX> justanother: G'morning
[10:29] <penguinzdr> next: alt+f2, type kcontrol, select appereance and themes, than select style and form the droping box select lipstik
[10:29] <FHX> mac2612's back!
[10:30] <FHX> penguinzdr: Nice. ^^
[10:31] <FHX> penguinzdr: what theme do you use?
[10:31] <FHX> i can't seem to find a decent one
[10:31] <FHX> mac2612: last two repositories disabled. XD
[10:31] <penguinzdr> FHX: Beauty of Darkness, but for style I use Polyester
[10:32] <FHX> penguinzdr: how about for your toolbar?
[10:32] <FHX> mine just stays ugly.
[10:32] <penguinzdr> FHX: icons?
[10:32] <FHX> -.- i looked at all the themes and they have funky toolbars
[10:32] <FHX> no i mean it's like a quicklaunch icons bar only
[10:32] <FHX> at the bottom
[10:33] <penguinzdr> I use Vista Inspirate.
[10:33] <FHX> Hm..
[10:33] <FHX> hang on i'll find a link
[10:34] <justanother> i want to install kubuntu on my laptop - i surfed a little bit around and found this: http://www.astro.unibas.ch/~loeffler/thinkpad/p1-preparation.xhtml#hibertools
[10:34] <Snake|Reading> "Once you have started to cross the train tracks, keep going, especially if you see a train aproaching"
[10:34] <justanother> it says  that you have to create a special hinbernation partition - it's for installing debian though
[10:34] <Snake|Reading> Do they really need to put that in there??
[10:34] <FHX> wtf
[10:34] <FHX> the thing crashed
[10:34] <penguinzdr> what thing?
[10:34] <FHX> ...
[10:34] <FHX> my kopete
[10:35] <FHX> penguinzdr: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/27578-1.jpg
[10:35] <Snake|Reading> LOL
[10:35] <FHX> see at the bottom? where it says mplayer ? i want a toolbar like that. T_T
[10:35] <Snake|Reading> Guys read this: Hold on let me type it
[10:35] <FHX> Snake|Reading: o.O for a while there, i thought you were laughing at my poor kopete. D
[10:35] <FHX> XD
[10:36] <Snake|Reading> "IF your vehicle stalls while on  the tracks, and a train is approaching, unfasten your seatbelt, get out of the vehicle and run as far away from the tracks as you can."
[10:36] <ztonzy> oh well, no apokryphos here :-\
[10:37] <penguinzdr> FHX: hmm... i don't know how to make toolbar like this
[10:37] <Snake|Reading> I think they should take that out of this manual...and let darwin's theory go to work :-D
[10:37] <Snake|Reading> FHX: I do.
[10:37] <Snake|Reading> Right click, configure panel
[10:37] <FHX> ok
[10:37] <Snake|Reading> Scale it down some, then click appearance
[10:37] <FHX> mhm, configure desktop.
[10:37] <Snake|Reading> You have to put your own gradient for "Panel background"
[10:38] <FHX> No
[10:38] <_jef> anyone here good with file permissions?
[10:38] <FHX> there's no appearance tab.
[10:38] <Snake|Reading> Theres not??
[10:38] <FHX> hang on i know what you're talking aout.
[10:38] <FHX> different locations
[10:38] <Snake|Reading> ok
[10:38] <FHX> in system settings
[10:38] <penguinzdr> FHX: what KDE are you using?
[10:38] <Snake|Reading> uhhh....
[10:38] <FHX> penguinzdr: latest one
[10:38] <FHX> just downloaded yetserday
[10:38] <Snake|Reading> 3.5?
[10:38] <Snake|Reading> oh thats why...im on 3.4
[10:38] <FHX> No idea.
[10:38] <FHX> yeah
[10:38] <penguinzdr> than you have to have appereance
[10:38] <FHX> yours said panel instead of desktop, no big dif though
[10:39] <penguinzdr> oh yeah, 3.4
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> No
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> right click on the taskbar
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> and select Configure Panel
[10:39] <FHX> yeah i'm there
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> Ya on the top it says
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> arrangment
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> hiding
[10:39] <Snake|Reading> menus and appearance
[10:40] <FHX> yeah i can read =P
[10:40] <Snake|Reading> :)
[10:40] <Snake|Reading> just put your own gradient in
[10:40] <FHX> kay.
[10:40] <Snake|Reading> back to me book
[10:40] <FHX> Snake|Reading: Heh, gl.
[10:40] <FHX> Rawr. Where's mac?
[10:49] <FHX> The trash bin's ugly. I can't remove it though. XD
[10:49] <FHX> Oh nvm. I can.
[10:51] <penguinzdr> :(
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> FHX: did you know that in ohio if you hit a deer, your allowed to keep its carcus?
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> as long as you kill it
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:51] <penguinzdr> i have to wait 8 years until I get driver's license
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> penguinzdr: whys that?
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> DUIs or what?
[10:51] <Snake|Reading> Or are you......8? lol
[10:52] <penguinzdr> Snake|Reading: because in Bulgaria, you can't get driver's license until 18 years
[10:52] <Snake|Reading> Owch
[10:52] <Snake|Reading> That sucks
[10:52] <Snake|Reading> I want to live in japan, they drive at 13 I hear
[10:52] <penguinzdr> wow
[10:52] <penguinzdr> than I have to wait 3 years if I'm in Japan
[10:52] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:52] <Snake|Reading> Your only 10?
[10:52] <penguinzdr> yes
[10:53] <Snake|Reading> *sigh* live life now
[10:53] <Snake|Reading> lol
[10:53] <Snake|Reading> I'll tell you the truth, its only going to get crappy until your 17-18....so be prepared lol
[10:54] <penguinzdr> okay, I'll be
[10:54] <Snake|Reading> :)
[10:55] <FHX> Snake|Reading: My stuff disappeared. >.>
[10:55] <Snake|Reading> what stuff
[10:55] <penguinzdr> kopete maybe
[10:55] <Snake|Reading> :D
[10:55] <FHX> Snake|Reading: No..I didn't know abotu the deer thing
[10:55] <FHX> Snake|Reading: Oi help me
[10:55] <FHX> it won't let me show my applications now
[10:55] <FHX> like my running programs
[10:56] <penguinzdr>     ?
[10:56] <penguinzdr> you switched to another desktop?
[10:56] <FHX> No, i removed it by accident.
[10:56] <Snake|Reading> FHX: right click
[10:56] <FHX> yep
[10:56] <Snake|Reading> add to panel
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> applet
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> then taskbar
[10:57] <FHX> Snake|Reading: I don't get how to get it like the screenie
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> Be happy
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> :)
[10:57] <FHX> =(
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> what do you mean
[10:57] <Snake|Reading> You need to build your own background picture, and install it as the background on the bar
[10:57] <FHX> no i know, but theirs only had icons
[10:57] <Hentai^XP> my life is still crappy and I'm 18
[10:58] <FHX> Snake|Reading: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/27578-1.jpg
[10:58] <Snake|Reading> Haha amen Hentai^XP
[10:58] <Snake|Reading> FHX, thats just programs they can open
[10:58] <Snake|Reading> their taskbar doesnt tell them what programs are running
[10:58] <FHX> yes..but mine has all the other stuff
[10:58] <Snake|Reading> remove it!
[10:58] <Snake|Reading> then add buttons as you need them
[10:59] <FHX> yeah but then where do their task manager go?
[10:59] <FHX> it doesn't make sense
[10:59] <Snake|Reading> It looks like they have one up top
[10:59] <Snake|Reading> perhaps
[10:59] <Snake|Reading> which I would like to know how they did
[10:59] <FHX> Exactly.
[11:00] <Snake|Reading> hmm
[11:00] <Snake|Reading> Hey KASBar is kinda cool
[11:00] <FHX> it's up the side
[11:00] <FHX> but
[11:00] <FHX> I want one up the top
[11:00] <Snake|Reading> What did you use to put it on the side?
[11:01] <FHX> kasbar
[11:01] <Snake|Reading> thats not what they got
[11:01] <FHX> I know.
[11:01] <FHX> and do you also notice
[11:01] <Snake|Reading> I think they have universal side bar
[11:01] <FHX> theirs is really in the middle
[11:01] <FHX> they don't even have the thing at the right side to slide it in
[11:01] <Snake|Reading> so?
[11:01] <FHX> -.- i want that.
[11:01] <FHX> Looks nicer.
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> OH SHIT
[11:02] <FHX> ?
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> I just lost my taskbar
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> I slide it and now its gone!
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> lol
[11:02] <FHX> slide it out again
[11:02] <FHX> XD
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> I cant!
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> theres no button!
[11:02] <FHX> O.O
[11:02] <Snake|Reading> LOL
[11:03] <penguinzdr> from the cold winter niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiights....
[11:03] <Snake|Reading> Got it back
[11:03] <Snake|Reading> whew
[11:04] <FHX> ..Hm.
[11:04] <FHX> i want their toolbar.
[11:04] <FHX> *sulk*
[11:04] <Snake|Reading> just play around until u get something cool
[11:04] <FHX> -.-
[11:05] <Snake|Reading> thats what im gonna do
[11:05] <FHX> They have msn?
[11:05] <FHX> wtf?
[11:05] <FHX> Hm..oh yeah. wine
[11:05] <Snake|Reading> ??
[11:05] <Snake|Reading> :)
[11:06] <FHX> I just don't understand *where* they put their taskbar
[11:06] <Snake|Reading> Hey
[11:06] <Snake|Reading> Their taskbar is up top
[11:06] <Snake|Reading> thats just a panel
[11:06] <penguinzdr> WINTER NIGHTS!
[11:06] <FHX> yeah but how did they get it up top?
[11:06] <FHX> penguinzdr: ???
[11:06] <Snake|Reading> Right click on your panel
[11:06] <penguinzdr> FHX: nothing
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> add to panel
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> panel
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> panel
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> drag up top
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> Then size down
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> Now right click on your new panel
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> select configure panel
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> go to "Hiding"
[11:07] <FHX> okay what?
[11:07] <FHX> XD
[11:07] <FHX> it won't be dragged up top
[11:07] <Snake|Reading> Why not??
[11:08] <Snake|Reading> You should be able to hold down,and drag it around...
[11:08] <FHX> how?
[11:08] <FHX> i can drag it sideways
[11:08] <FHX> not up top
[11:08] <Snake|Reading> Wtf?
[11:08] <Snake|Reading> Try draging it sideways, then to the top
[11:08] <Snake|Reading> I can even put 2 panels up there... lol
[11:08] <FHX> I can drag the panel to the top
[11:08] <FHX> but not the task bar
[11:08] <Snake|Reading> No
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> You have to right click on your new panel
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> and add a taskbar there
[11:09] <FHX> Oh snap
[11:09] <FHX> Okay
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> Then it works ;)
[11:09] <FHX> Yeah..but it's ugly. >.>
[11:09] <FHX> XD
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> And hey want to know how to get rid of the right hiding button thing??
[11:09] <FHX> yeah
[11:09] <FHX> =P
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> right click, configure panel
[11:09] <Snake|Reading> hiding
[11:10] <Snake|Reading> then uncheck "Show right panel-hidding"
[11:10] <FHX> Nice
[11:10] <Snake|Reading> I love just playing with stuff lol
[11:10] <FHX> XD haha
[11:10] <FHX> XD
[11:11] <FHX> say, do you know how to make it so the task bar only shows one row of taskss?
[11:11] <Snake__> Right click, make the panel smaller
[11:11] <Snake__> right click * configure panel
[11:11] <Snake__> then size it down
[11:11] <Snake__> (mines at tiny)
[11:11] <FHX> Cool
[11:12] <FHX> Do you know how to install msn messenger?
[11:12] <Snake__> Nope, never used wine
[11:12] <Hentai^XP> FHX: try gaim instead
[11:12] <FHX> do you know how i can access gaim?
[11:13] <Snake__> Yep
[11:13] <FHX> tell me?
[11:13] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:13] <Snake__> :)
[11:13] <Hentai^XP> or kopete or w\e it is
[11:13] <FHX> isntalling gaim..
[11:13] <FHX> does anyone know how to use qtparted?
[11:14] <Snake__> Nope
[11:14] <FHX> ok
[11:14] <FHX> lalala
[11:14] <FHX> *begins decorating desktop*
[11:14] <FHX> D
[11:14] <FHX> XD
[11:15] <FHX> say
[11:15] <FHX> if you look at their screenie
[11:15] <FHX> next to the black computer screen
[11:15] <FHX> they have a blue one..
[11:15] <FHX> what's that??
[11:16] <FHX> how do i run apt-update again?
[11:16] <FHX> sudo apt-get update?
[11:17] <flim> update will only update the list of packages. To update the packages you'll have to do apt-get upgrade
[11:18] <FHX> ok
[11:18] <penguinzdr> argh... kde crashed
[11:19] <FHX> =/ mine too just now
[11:19] <penguinzdr> wow
[11:19] <penguinzdr> group crash
[11:19] <FHX> hey how do you install msn messenger on kubuntu?
[11:20] <penguinzdr> use kopete
[11:20] <FHX> I don't like kopete
[11:20] <penguinzdr> than use GAIM
[11:20] <FHX> no msn
[11:20] <penguinzdr> !?!?
[11:20] <ubotu> penguinzdr: Are you smoking crack?
[11:20] <FHX> o.O
[11:21] <penguinzdr> hey guys... i want to hear your opinion - do you like my desktop: http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/9462/snapshot68cv.png
[11:22] <flim> looks quite nice, but I absolutely hate big taskbars, so nothing I could live with ;)
[11:23] <Snake__> Not bad
[11:23] <Snake__> Whos the broad?
[11:23] <FHX> penguinzdr: How did you get it to look semi transparent?
[11:23] <hussam> penguinzdr: nice desktop but take away some of the desktop shortcuts.
[11:24] <Snake__> FHX: theres a setting if you right click, configure taskbar
[11:24] <Snake__> apperace, then advanced options ;)
[11:24] <Snake__> penguinzdr: whos the chick?
[11:24] <FHX> i'm there
[11:24] <FHX> how?
[11:24] <penguinzdr> FHX: right-click on panel, choose configure panel , than choose appereance and check use transparent background
[11:25] <FHX> as in "Enable user transparency"?
[11:25] <FHX> * Just enable transparency
[11:26] <penguinzdr> Snake__:   the goth chick? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18598
[11:26] <Snake__> Indeed
[11:26] <Snake__> Shes hot, I wish i knew who she was
[11:26] <FHX> wait how do i get transparency? o.o
[11:27] <Snake__> FHX: for the love of god do like everyone else and play with it until you figure it out.
[11:27] <FHX> when i select it it's 100% transparent
[11:27] <FHX> XD
[11:27] <FHX> okay ok
[11:27] <NPC_Crys> Hey all. I just got java installed. How do I make it respond to the term command jre?
[11:27] <wolfvoline> HI all
[11:27] <NPC_Crys> Hi you.
[11:27] <wolfvoline> I download Kbuntu as iso image file but i can't write to CD
[11:28] <NPC_Crys> What burn software you got man?
[11:28] <wolfvoline> Nero
[11:28] <NPC_Crys> What version?
[11:28] <wolfvoline> 6
[11:28] <NPC_Crys> 5 is easier.
[11:28] <ejofee> anybody know any easy way to install gaim 2.0 beta1 in ubuntu?
[11:29] <wolfvoline> Report file size is 107 MB  , Is correct ?
[11:29] <NPC_Crys> wolfvoline I assume you are unsuccessfully trying to find the nero express command to burn iso, right?
[11:30] <wolfvoline> NPC_Crys:  I use command to write but he said me with "InCorrect block size"
[11:31] <NPC_Crys> Uh oh. Did you try running an md5sum to check the image?
[11:31] <wolfvoline> But when i use 'winrar' to view image it said  'extract size about 670 MB'
[11:31] <wolfvoline> NPC_Crys: what wrong ?
[11:32] <Snake__> FHX: the one thing Idont understand tho
[11:32] <Snake__> is how he  got it to say "File" "Sessions" etc
[11:32] <FHX> 9pm
[11:32] <FHX> *6
[11:32] <NPC_Crys> I don't know anything about winrar and haven't since tugzip hit the scene.
[11:32] <FHX> Snake__: ?
[11:32] <FHX> XD quit now I'm playing
[11:32] <Snake__> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/27578-1.jpg
[11:32] <Snake__> Im looking at that pic
[11:32] <FHX> Uh-huh
[11:32] <Snake__> how did he get the words at the top
[11:33] <Snake__> all I can get is icons...
[11:33] <NPC_Crys> wolfvoline: I would find a md5sum program and check the image against the md5sum on the kubuntu website.
[11:33] <FHX> Yeah I was going to ask you that, but then I thought maybe you'd just ask me to play around again
[11:33] <FHX> XD
[11:33] <Snake__> lol
[11:33] <Snake__> I've been playing, and that one I can't figure out
[11:33] <_nano_> Snake__: hey!
[11:33] <Snake__> _nano_: whats up!
[11:34] <Snake__> Hey check this out _nano_ maybe you knoe
[11:34] <wolfvoline> NPC_Crys: ok thx
[11:34] <Snake__> _nano_: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/27578-1.jpg , see the text at the top in that panel?
[11:34] <Snake__> how would i do that?
[11:34] <wolfvoline> NPC_Crys: I try to  find
[11:34] <FHX> hey
[11:34] <FHX> Snake__:
[11:34] <FHX> we don't need it
[11:34] <Snake__> yo
[11:34] <Snake__> ??
[11:34] <FHX> if you have the scroller button
[11:34] <FHX> click on that
[11:34] <FHX> we don't need the task bar
[11:34] <Snake__> What do you mean?
[11:34] <FHX> your mouse
[11:34] <_nano_> Snake__: configure panel
[11:34] <Snake__> Oh
[11:35] <Snake__> I know
[11:35] <FHX> it has a middle scroller
[11:35] <FHX> yeah
[11:35] <FHX> so we don't need it
[11:35] <Snake__> but i want the damn text lol
[11:35] <FHX> XDD
[11:35] <FHX> The damn text doesn't want you it seems
[11:35] <Snake__> _nano_: I dont see any settings in there
[11:36] <_nano_> Snake__: oops i thought that's a taskbar :P
[11:36] <_nano_> Snake__: no idea never tried that
[11:36] <Snake__> no, its a full panel...
[11:36] <Snake__> Hmm
[11:36] <Snake__> I can only image it works like gnome
[11:36] <Snake__> ya know?
[11:36] <_nano_> Snake__: hey are you running firefox by anychance?
[11:36] <Snake__> Nope, but I could if I need to how come?
[11:37] <_nano_> Snake__: could you check www.blogger.com using firefox? my browser freezes because of javascript animation...no idea why
[11:37] <Snake__> Hang on
[11:37] <_nano_> Snake__: opera works fine on that tho
[11:37] <Snake__> lemme download
[11:38] <_nano_> Snake__: download as in install firefox?
[11:38] <Snake__> Yep
[11:38] <Snake__> :)
[11:38] <FHX> for me blogger works fine on firefox
[11:38] <_nano_> Snake__: hehe
[11:38] <_nano_> FHX: you mean you could see the animation right? on top left?
[11:38] <FHX> Yeh
[11:39] <hussam> here's my kubuntu ICE winter desktop http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6520/snapshot46zy.jpg
[11:39] <_nano_> FHX: I dunno man, it's with all gecko based browsers on linux. i tried firefox, seamonkey, flock...same problem
[11:39] <FHX> Hm..i'm not sure, you're prolly missing something
[11:39] <FHX> some plugin
[11:39] <Snake__> Hmmm it seems to work
[11:39] <FHX> hussam: nice. where did you get the weather thing?
[11:40] <penguinzdr> hussam: not bad, but I prefer dark desktops, like mine
[11:40] <penguinzdr> FHX:  that LWP
[11:40] <penguinzdr> FHX:  that's LWP
[11:40] <_nano_> Snake__: you on your old machine?
[11:40] <Snake__> _nano_: i'm on my lappy yes
[11:40] <FHX> LWP=?
[11:40] <penguinzdr> Liquid Weather ++ for SuperKaramba
[11:40] <_nano_> Snake__: what's the graphics card? any idea?
[11:40] <Snake__> Savage S3 I think
[11:40] <Snake__> some crap like that
[11:40] <hussam> FHX: get superkarmaba first
[11:41] <_nano_> Snake__: mine's radeon 7500, so is it good or bad? :-s
[11:41] <Snake__> Og
[11:41] <Snake__> oh
[11:41] <Snake__> My god.
[11:41] <Snake__> Upgrade.
[11:41] <Snake__> lol
[11:41] <FHX> hussam: through konsole?
[11:41] <_nano_> Snake__: :(
[11:41] <Snake__> well
[11:41] <Hentai^XP> rate the desktop /me allreayd knows what half you will say atleast http://nt.nukysrealm.net/hyhh.JPG
[11:41] <Snake__> do you game at all?
[11:41] <Snake__> or just 2d stuff?
[11:41] <_nano_> Snake__: it works fine on windows tho, i played Counterstrike and all on my sweet inspiron 5100 :P
[11:41] <hussam> FHX: you on breezy ?
[11:42] <Snake__> You played CS on a 7500!?
[11:42] <FHX> hussam: Yup
[11:42] <Snake__> CS: 1.6???
[11:42] <FHX> O.O
[11:42] <FHX> That's crazy
[11:42] <hussam> FHX: with kde 3.4.3?
[11:42] <_nano_> Snake__: yeh :D
[11:42] <Snake__> Oh okay
[11:42] <Snake__> I thought you ment souce
[11:42] <FHX> hussam: The latest one
[11:42] <_nano_> Snake__: and i pwned ;) (kidding)
[11:42] <Snake__> i was like my 9600 couldn't hardly handle source lol
[11:42] <FHX> That's a striking image of windows.
[11:42] <penguinzdr> Hentai^XP: blah... windows is ugly
[11:42] <FHX> :o
[11:42] <_nano_> Snake__: oh i wouldn't even dare run CS source
[11:42] <Snake__> lol
[11:42] <Snake__> .,,,,
[11:42] <penguinzdr> da ima nqkoi bulgarin tuk?
[11:43] <Snake__> Hentai^XP: Why don't you just like
[11:43] <Snake__> I dont know
[11:43] <Snake__> RUN XP!?
[11:43] <FHX> Exactly
[11:43] <FHX> XD
[11:43] <hussam> FHX: kde 3.5 has superkarmaba but if you are on ke 3.4.3 like me, I can email you superkarmaba 0.37
[11:43] <Hentai^XP> I do run xp Snake__
[11:43] <Snake__> Lol
[11:43] <FHX> hussam: should I try running it and see if it's there?
[11:43] <Snake__> I run XP, but with a vista inspirent
[11:43] <_nano_> Snake__: could you send me your xorg.conf file?
[11:43] <Snake__> god vista is so sexy
[11:43] <FHX> hussam: actually, can I do: sudo apt-get install superkaramba?
[11:43] <Snake__> _nano_: I would if I knew where it was :D
[11:44] <FHX> hey but Kubuntu's pretty nice too. =P
[11:44] <hussam> FHX: lubutnu has 0.36 but I cna give you 0.37
[11:44] <_nano_> Snake__: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <Snake__> How could I ship it to you?
[11:44] <_nano_> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:44] <Snake__> Oh ok
[11:44] <Snake__> :)
[11:44] <Snake__> Hang on
[11:44] <_nano_> ok :D
[11:44] <FHX> hussam: Nah it's okay, installing it now. =)
[11:45] <Hentai^XP> penguinzdr: you hate windows or something?
[11:45] <hussam> FHX: then look for liquid weather ++ on kde-look.org
[11:45] <hussam> brb
[11:45] <FHX> hussam: Gotcha
[11:45] <penguinzdr> Hentai^XP: yes, i hate it
[11:45] <Snake__> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/481339
[11:45] <Hentai^XP>  penguinzdr can you explain to me why in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:46] <Snake__> I don't hate windows
[11:46] <Snake__> I feel it inferiour, but I don't hate it
[11:46] <penguinzdr> Hentai^XP: ok
[11:46] <FHX> Snake__: Do you know how to get application windows to be skinned?
[11:46] <Snake__> mmm
[11:46] <Snake__> nope
[11:46] <FHX> Hm...
[11:46] <_nano_> Snake__: thanks
[11:46] <FHX> I think it'sunder styles also
[11:48] <FHX> hey superkaramba is nice.
[11:49] <penguinzdr> yes, it's a good app
[11:49] <FHX> Very nice app. *nods*
[11:51] <FHX> How do I download the weather thing? it keeps telling me i can't save binary files
[11:52] <penguinzdr> bye guys
[11:52] <Snake__> c ya
[11:52] <FHX> penguinzdr: bye
[11:53] <penguinzdr> c ya
[12:04] <robin_2> I have upgraded to KDE 3.5
[12:04] <robin_2> but now I can't sync with bluetooth.
[12:05] <robin_2> because the kdebluetooth-irmcsync got dep problems.
[12:12] <robin_2> nobody ?
[12:12] <robin_2> is there a replacement for that package?
[12:22] <Sean> Anyone around to take a quick question?
[12:23] <Sean> ipodslave seems to not want to actually sync my ipod.  It'll go and say it's synced, but neither that nor the eject functionality works
[12:26] <FHX> Snake__: Back
[12:31] <FHX> Does anyone know how to keep LWP running without having to open it through superkaramba everytime?
[12:31] <robin_2> I upgrade to kde 3.5, but I can't use bluetooth for syncing. because kdebluetooth-irmcsync will be removed by upgrading to 3.5. And I can't find a replacement or alternative?
[12:34] <robin_2> it there a way to downgrade to kde 3.4 ?
[12:44] <FHX> Does anybody know how to install programs such as msn messenger?
[12:44] <FHX> On Kubuntu
[12:45] <robotgeek> FHX: hm, unless you want to run it with wine, gaim/amsn handle msn well
[12:46] <hussam> FHX: kubuntu ships with kopete which supports msn service, aim, and yohoo etc...
[12:46] <FHX> robotgeek: Hm..what's the difference if I run it with wine?
[12:46] <FHX> will it run as pernormal?
[12:46] <robotgeek> hussam: right, i forgot i was in #kubuntu :)
[12:47] <FHX> ah, hussam. How do you keep the weather thing on there even when you log off?
[12:47] <robotgeek> FHX: hmm, actually none. kopete is very nice, it does webcam too, i heard
[12:47] <FHX> robotgeek: Hm..yeah, but I don't use aim or the other clients, so msn has a nicer interface.
[12:47] <FHX> DX
[12:47] <FHX> *XD
[12:48] <robotgeek> FHX: you should be fine with kopete then
[12:48] <FHX> maybe if I can find a nice skin kopete will be more bearable ;)
[12:48] <hussam> FHX: just run it and when you log off, kde session is saved so when you log in again, superkaramba will run again.
[12:48] <FHX> hussam: Awesome. Thanks =)
[12:49] <robotgeek> FHX: http://www.kde-look.org :)
[12:54] <FHX> robotgeek: How do I increase my partition sie?
[12:54] <FHX> *size
[12:55] <robotgeek> FHX: you might want to use Qparted
[12:55] <FHX> mhm, I installed it.
[12:56] <FHX> Will it shut down afterwards?
[12:56] <robotgeek> FHX: probably not
[12:56] <robotgeek> FHX: you might also want to shoot the same question in #ubuntu also
[12:56] <FHX> okay
[12:57] <chopemax> hi, im using kmyfirewall to manage iptables, anyone knows what do I have to add in order to be able to use samba? I
[01:02] <FHX> robotgeek: I'm in qtparted, what should I do?
[01:02] <FHX> format?
[01:04] <FHX> ??
[01:04] <kinfo> what?
[01:04] <FHX> How do I increase partition size using qtparted?
[01:06] <jazwec> hi..please could anybody help me? i have *.mdf file and i want to mount..when i use mount command, cedega cant read it...and i cant use mdf2iso program, because its DVD image and its too large...4.2 GB
[01:08] <chopemax> kiso can convert mdf to iso
[01:08] <FHX> ..
[01:08] <FHX> does anyone know?
[01:08] <chopemax> if you dont have any other alternative
[01:09] <jazwec> chopemax also DVD images?
[01:10] <FHX> Hm..
[01:10] <FHX> I'm lost. No idea how to increase partition size using qtparted.
[01:11] <FHX> robotgeek: Do you know how I can increase it using qtparted?
[01:11] <chopemax> jazwec: it doesnt specify, i dont know..
[01:12] <chopemax> FHX:http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/09/how-do-i-resize-windows-partition-with.php
[01:13] <FHX> Thanks
[01:13] <chopemax> no problem
[01:13] <robotgeek> FHX: sorry, was away
[01:14] <FHX> robotgeek: When I right click it won't let me resize
[01:14] <FHX> i see the option there, but it's faded, can't be highlighted.
[01:14] <robotgeek> FHX: i've never used it, maybe try it with a live cd
[01:14] <FHX> Hm..
[01:14] <FHX> chopemax: have you used it?
[01:15] <FHX> Hm..
[01:15] <jazwec> chopemax so how can i use that kiso?
[01:15] <robotgeek> anyways, later
[01:16] <robin_2> c'mon nobody using bluetooth sync with kde 3.5 ?
[01:18] <chopemax> FHX: i have formatted partitions with qtparted but never resized
[01:19] <chopemax> FHX: sure the partition is unmounted? ( don't know maybe that could be)
[01:20] <FHX> how do I know if it is unmounted?
[01:20] <FHX> and the partition i want to resize is ext3
[01:22] <chopemax> jazwec: is not in apt so it may be a bit complicated to install + it needs libcdio 0.73...
[01:25] <chopemax> jazwec: however this worked fine for me http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/2005/11/19/kiso-packages-for-ubuntu-breezy/
[01:27] <FHX> It seems parted cannot do ext3 resize partitions
[01:28] <jazwec> chopemax i have it installed..but o dont know how to use it
[01:29] <jazwec> chopemax..oh i dont have it :) i have only mkisofs
[01:29] <dannythm> hello
[01:30] <dannythm> anyone know the root passwod for the 5.10 kubuntu live dvd?
[01:30] <FHX> *mutters incoherently* qtparted doesn't do ext3 resizes
[01:30] <FHX> *growls*
[01:31] <robin_2> !root
[01:31] <robin_2> what is the meta package for the kubuntu kde basic stuff?
[01:31] <dannythm> !root
[01:32] <FHX> How do I upgrade my qtparted?
[01:32] <robin_2> nvm found it.
[01:36] <chopemax> jazwec: did the conversion work?
[01:36] <jazwec> chopemax w8..u just installed KIso
[01:37] <jazwec> chopemax mdf is not supported for KISO
[01:38] <chopemax> jazwec: try CTRL+C
[01:41] <chopemax> FHX: in the web they say the kubuntu installer should resize ext3 however i really dont remember
[01:42] <FHX> chopemax: the kubuntu installer?
[01:43] <FHX> but doesn't the kubuntu installer entirely erase everything?
[01:43] <FHX> ...
[01:43] <FHX> if I boot from CD i'll lose my kubuntu
[01:44] <FHX> actually..will I/
[01:44] <FHX> if i stop it after partitioning?
[01:45] <FHX> Hm..now there's a thought.
[01:45] <FHX> but first i want to try updating qtparted, how do I do that?
[01:47] <raphink> anyone knows how to use keychain properly?
[01:47] <raphink> I'm getting crazy with this stuff
[01:48] <jazwec> chopemax it works..but its still 0%
[01:49] <jazwec> chopemax oh i have it :) nice!
[01:49] <chopemax> jazwec: so did it work?
[01:50] <jazwec> chopemax yeah..thanks alot
[01:50] <chopemax> FHX: maybe another distro install cd you have can resize during install
[01:50] <chopemax> jazwec: great! no problem
[01:51] <jazwec> chopemax so now i can burn it with k3b, yeah?
[01:52] <chopemax> jazwec: i would try mounting it first to see if everythings fine
[01:53] <jazwec> mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mount/folder/ ?
[01:54] <chopemax> yeah i think so..
[01:54] <laser_tk> !firefox
[01:54] <ubotu> methinks firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[01:54] <laser_tk> !firefox1.5
[01:54] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:54] <jazwec> chopemax it writes that it isnt iso9660 image
[01:54] <rednaxel> !dhclient.conf
[01:54] <ubotu> rednaxel: No idea
[01:55] <chopemax> try to openeing it with kiso to see if it shows contents
[01:56] <jazwec> it says it doesnt seem like valid image
[01:56] <FHX> How do I update qtparted?
[01:57] <FHX> Any ideas?
[01:57] <chopemax> jazwec: i don't know.. maybe kiso screwd up or the source image was not ok
[01:58] <jazwec> chopemax hmm source image is ok on 100%
[01:58] <jazwec> chopemax im scared that i will have to install windows :(
[02:01] <chopemax> jazwec: maybe you could try wine
[02:01] <jazwec> chopemax but i have to burn it first
[02:02] <jazwec> chopemax just tell me..how can i convert that image..i opened the mdf image and what now
[02:03] <chopemax> jazwec: i didnt get what you are trying to do
[02:03] <jazwec> chopemax convert mdf to iso
[02:04] <chopemax> jazwec: with kiso?
[02:04] <jazwec> chopemax yes
[02:06] <jazwec> chopemax only thing i need, is to burn mdf DVD image..if there is a program which can burn mdf image, i can use that..if there is not, i need cinverter and then i can burn that iso with k3b
[02:06] <jazwec> i think
[02:08] <ubuntu> hallo, worin besteht der wesentliche unterschied zw. kubuntu u. kanotix?
[02:08] <chopemax> jazwec: yes i got that.. you said you'll have to install windows.. which program would you use to convert it in windows
[02:11] <jazwec> chopemax i can use alcohol 120% in win..but i hate windows so i will look for some alternatives for linux
[02:11] <chopemax> jazwec: im trying to run isobuster in linux thru wine
[02:15] <FHX> chopemax: If I boot from cd and select the partition step only then edit the partition tables, will it affect anything else or wipe anything?
[02:16] <chopemax> FHX: i really dont know much about partitions you should ask someone else to be sure
[02:17] <basti_> is "adept" the default packet manager of kubuntu? (i'm helping a friend)
[02:17] <FHX> The thing is that I've been asking for two hours now.
[02:17] <FHX> XD
[02:18] <chopemax> basti_: in breezy yes
[02:18] <basti_> chopemax: thanks
[02:20] <chopemax> yw
[02:26] <hxkoh> My computer can't sent out any image files, any ideas why?
[02:26] <hxkoh> on msn file attachments keep failing, when uploading images they don't upload..
[02:27] <basti_> hxkoh: the question shows a lack of understanding of the underlying processes.
[02:27] <basti_> hxkoh: is this kubuntu related?
[02:27] <FHX> Hm?
[02:27] <FHX> Yeah.
[02:27] <FHX> Welll I could go to the other room.
[02:27] <FHX> No one in there
[02:27] <basti_> i'm querying you
[02:29] <rednaxel> how do I disable services I'm not using, like kbluetooth or the like?
[02:29] <rednaxel> in RH i had a "netsysv" program
[02:35] <Milktea> I can't play a few .mkv files, I have w32 codecs and stuff
[02:35] <Milktea> I tried mPlayer, but it has weird sound
[02:36] <covalence> hello
[02:37] <covalence> is there some place to report bugs for dapper drake flight 2 (install) ?
[02:48] <anir> hello .. can anyone guide me how to go to ubuntu chat room??
[02:49] <hussam> anir: /join #ubuntu
[02:49] <anir> hussam: thank you :)
[02:50] <hussam> covalence: report bugs here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <FHX> Could dsomeone advise? How do I let things automatically update? (programs etc.)
[02:53] <hussam> FHX: do you have an always-on internet connection?
[02:53] <mike-e> HI i installed FAM because bmpx requires it, when i did it it gave a large list of stuff it's removing, uncliding gnome-desktop, is it going to be ok?
[02:53] <FHX> hussam: Yes I do
[02:54] <anir> mike-e: dont worry about tahat
[02:54] <mike-e> it's all missing from my applications now
[02:54] <mike-e> it's removing gmpb, totem
[02:54] <mike-e> etc
[02:54] <mike-e> wtf
[02:55] <hussam> FHX: you can create a cron job that automatically check for updates every midnight and downloads and install them
[02:55] <FHX> hussam: Could you tell me how that is done?
[02:55] <mike-e> btw you were wrong
[02:56] <castlerock> Hi all, I need help running a game on kubuntu? Is anyone up for the challenge?
[02:57] <castlerock> I'm trying to run racer 0.5.0
[02:57] <castlerock> from racer.nl
[02:57] <hussam> FHX: may I pm you?
[02:58] <FHX> hussam: Sure
[02:58] <castlerock> when I run the binary, it says that libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 does not exist
[02:58] <anir> castlerock: how did you install the game?? through synaptic??
[02:58] <castlerock> No, there is no binary through synaptic. I had to download the binary from their site at racer.nl
[02:59] <anir> castlerock: havent they given a  readme file about how to run it??
[02:59] <drynish> What is the good way to install a package from dapper?
[03:00] <castlerock> Well, according to their readme, it should work
[03:00] <anir> let me check the game
[03:00] <castlerock> anir: ok, it's at www.racer.nl
[03:02] <covalence> thank you, hussam
[03:02] <anir> castlerock: whats ur problem...
[03:03] <anir> even i wanna run the game
[03:03] <castlerock> anir: it can't find the library that i mentioned earlier: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[03:04] <anir> okay
[03:04] <castlerock> anir: it's a good game I know, but it's no good without that library, so I need some place to get it
[03:05] <anir> hmm...
[03:05] <castlerock> anir: compiling from source gives errors as well
[03:05] <anir> so should i download or not.. castlerock ..lol :)
[03:05] <castlerock> anir: even with all required libraries and compilers installed
[03:06] <castlerock> anir: well I'm trying to run it as well here, but I can't run the game because of the dreaded library
[03:06] <anir> castlerock: thats a pain .. i know.
[03:07] <castlerock> anir: any ideas on where to find it? I checked the Ubuntu Package search but did not find anything. Sounds like a little quality time with google for a few minutes ;-)
[03:07] <anir> castlerock: i am doing a google..
[03:09] <castlerock> anir: ok
[03:11] <anir> do u have a 64 bit pro castlerock
[03:11] <Spum> hey, is it possible to dual-boot kubuntu?
[03:11] <anir> Spum: yes
[03:11] <castlerock> anir: no I do not. I have Athlon XP
[03:12] <castlerock> anir: 32-bit of course
[03:12] <anir> castlerock: have u checked the debian site for the library..
[03:12] <castlerock> anir: no, but i am going to do that now........
[03:13] <anir> have a check.. its there i hopw
[03:16] <Spum> anir: how would i go about it
[03:17] <anir> castlerock: try this http://packages.debian.org/stable/
[03:21] <FHX> hussam: Sorry my computer lagged
[03:21] <hussam> that's ok
[03:22] <TooEarly> i have to SATA drives with a RAID0 and all my files that i have from windows are on partition 2 sdb on the raid part. it says the drive is unformatted and i can't enable it to mount it, what do i do?
[03:22] <castlerock> anir: ok i fixed the problem: I downloaded the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb package from Debian testing repos and it worked!
[03:27] <hyperactivecrond> good morning all of you eastern time zoners
[03:27] <basti_> whats a good alsa mixer interface for kubuntu?
[03:27] <hyperactivecrond> basti_: kmix
[03:27] <basti_> thanks
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> np basti_
[03:28] <TooEarly> anyone have any solution to my problem what so ever?
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> yay ubuntu has apt-get moo
[03:30] <hyperactivecrond> aah i get it: super cow powers
[03:55] <lascar> i'm compiling some source and I get the error "can't find x-includes".  I've been to a few Ubuntu sites and forums, but the problem persists.  Can anyone help me?
[04:01] <lascar> anyone?
[04:01] <manveru> !xincludes
[04:01] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[04:01] <manveru> ;)
[04:03] <lascar> manveru: hi; i'll give it a shot
[04:05] <lascar> hey, it worked!  Now, do you have any idea how to get past the Qt error? ;)
[04:05] <lascar> !Qt
[04:05] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:15] <hyperactivecrond> dammit where does one get motif for opera?
[04:16] <hyperactivecrond> nvm
[04:17] <hyperactivecrond> !operamotiferror is do cd /usr/lib; sudo cp libXm.so.1 libXm.so.3
[04:17] <ubotu> okay, hyperactivecrond
[04:31] <TooEarly> when kubuntu is loading, it gets to the "* Starting System Log Daemon..." and it has a little [OK]  by it, but nothing happens after that..it seems to get stuck there.. what's the problem?
[04:33] <Spum> can anyone tell me of a jabber client which can be installed on kubuntu using apt-get?
[04:33] <dragonkh> spum kopete is already on
[04:38] <Spum> :-)
[04:38] <Spum> ok
[04:43] <kkathman> sproingie: both kopete and Gaim have jabber
[04:43] <kkathman> oops
[04:43] <kkathman> Spum I mean
[04:43] <kkathman> pick your client
[04:44] <ingrato> hi
[04:45] <ingrato> how do I install flash plugin for konqueror?
[05:03] <_luciano> Hi, where I can find a simple tutorial to install a WPA wireless connection?
[05:05] <owner> can anyone help me download Mozilla Active X control?
[05:05] <Jochen> Hi! Can somebody give me the command how to build quick from the source tar.gz file a ubuntu debian package and install it?!
[05:07] <owner> please?
[05:07] <osh_> owner: mozilla activeX? That's some windows-crap isn't it?
[05:07] <apollo2011> I just installed Kubuntu and Kaffeine won't play a DVD.  I get this error: "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading NAV packet.."
[05:08] <osh_> apollo2011: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[05:09] <apollo2011> osh_: ah, I remember this from my other Ubuntu system.  thx
[05:10] <rednaxel> i'm checking what can I disable to free more RAM
[05:12] <osh_> rednaxel: kill the mofo gam_server. it eats memory on my system like a fat kid eats cake.
[05:12] <jazwec> chopemax please..could you help me with something else?
[05:12] <apollo2011> Now when I try to play the DVD, it says there are no codecs to play the DVD
[05:13] <rednaxel> what gam_server does?
[05:13] <osh_> rednaxel: it's sgi's fam but a gnome version.
[05:14] <rednaxel> and what about kded?
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> !tell apollo2011 about restrictedformats
[05:15] <rednaxel> osh_: how do I kill gam_server ? kill -9 is not being enough
[05:15] <apollo2011> hyperactivecrond, I already did the css stuff.
[05:15] <hyperactivecrond> is your country code set right?
[05:16] <melonipoika> hi, i have a question about partitions, is there any way to change the swap partition? i mean, to delete the actual one, and configure ubuntu to use the one i will create
[05:16] <apollo2011> hyperactivecrond, Totem complains that it can't find the mount point
[05:16] <hyperactivecrond> apollo2011: you probably don't have a /media/dvd dir
[05:17] <apollo2011> no I don;t
[05:17] <apollo2011> I will make one and link it to the cdrom dir for the dvd drive
[05:17] <Hikaru79> Hm. I just installed kubuntu-desktop. Whenever I try to run kate, I get: adrian@navi:~$ kate
[05:17] <Hikaru79> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[05:17] <Hikaru79> Anyone know why this is? :(
[05:18] <mey> hello everyone
[05:18] <Hikaru79> hello mey
[05:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:25] <FHX> How do I install a Kopete theme?
[05:25] <FHX> Ah k. Nvm.
[05:32] <Broxtor> Hi, I installed apache2 and php4 with apt-get install apache2 php4, but when I try to open a php file, the browser asks me if I want to download or open the file.
[05:33] <Broxtor> Does anyone know how to solve this?
[05:33] <PeterSomnium> anyone can help me with the charsets on my pc?
[05:33] <PeterSomnium> *can= willing
[05:35] <PeterSomnium> anyone?
[05:35] <PeterSomnium> just msg me if you're willing to help for a sec
[05:38] <sproingie> tell PeterSomnium about pm
[05:38] <sproingie> !tell PeterSomnium about pm
[05:40] <PeterSomnium> Is anyone willing to answer my question about charsets?
[05:42] <sproingie> !tell PeterSomnium about pm
[05:42] <sproingie> oops
[05:42] <PeterSomnium> I migrated from windows to linux a few months ago, and I really like it. but there is 1 problem, all the files I took with me from windows, have all missing chars and stuff (the chars with the diaeresis on them and accents), and I also cant make diaeresis on top of chars
[05:43] <sproingie> windows uses utf-16 for filenames, linux typically uses utf-8 ... not sure they'll translate properly
[05:44] <PeterSomnium> yeah, but how can I make " on top of chars?
[05:44] <PeterSomnium> in new documents I mean
[05:44] <Anth0ny_> Anyone who can tell me why Kubuntu DVD 5.10 reports the following during install:
[05:44] <Anth0ny_> Debootstrap program exited with an error
[05:44] <PeterSomnium> and also in IM and stuff
[05:44] <AoP> I've got Kubuntu and Win xp on a dual boot and I was wondering how can I change the default boot to Win Xp?
[05:44] <Anth0ny_> I have got a 15GB Windows-partition at the beginning
[05:44] <melonipoika> aop
[05:45] <melonipoika> uy
[05:45] <hxkoh> Hello
[05:45] <hxkoh> Could someone please help?
[05:45] <AoP> ya?
[05:45] <hxkoh> My Kubuntu froze and I had to press my computer's restart button
[05:45] <melonipoika> Aop, in menu.lst, change "order" from 0 to the number where windows is
[05:45] <hxkoh> it started up fine but how do I know if there are errors that happened in the process?
[05:45] <sproingie> PeterSomnium: normally you would choose the keyboard for your locale and use whatever altgr you normally use.  otherwise you use the compose key
[05:45] <sproingie> tho i don't seem to have a working compose in kubuntu
[05:45] <AoP> Alright thanks melonipoika
[05:46] <AoP> Brb
[05:46] <melonipoika> you have to start counting in 0, so if you have 2 ubuntu kernels option and 1 linux, it would be number 2
[05:46] <melonipoika> you are wellcome
[05:47] <melonipoika> aop, (sorry, i meant 2 kernels and 1 windows)
[05:48] <hxkoh> How do I set up a firewall for Kubuntu?
[05:48] <PeterSomnium> sproingie: I chose the right keyboard, I know that for sure. Any leads on how I can check my locales?
[05:50] <PeterSomnium> brb, gonna eat now
[05:50] <melonipoika> does anyone know how can i change the swap partition from primary to logical?
[05:51] <sproingie> i tried switching my keyboard to intl layout and got the single most annoying behavior possible where the " key actually auto-composed without my wanting it
[05:52] <sproingie> i.e. no way to actually write a "
[05:54] <sproingie> you can try going into settings->regional & accessability->keyboard layout and changing it there.  the menu key is supposed to be a compose key
[05:55] <sproingie> or try the xkb options tab, which is kinda raw, but should get you the behavior you got in windows
[05:55] <sproingie> with some combination of options that is
[05:55] <Quesce> What is the firewall equivalent for Kubuntu?
[05:55] <AoP> Ack,
[05:56] <Quesce> ?
[05:56] <AoP> Anyone have a guide or something to changeing the default boot when your computer starts up?
[05:56] <Quesce> F1?
[05:57] <AoP> Right now It's Kubuntu but I want it as Win xp, and I'm haveing trouble doing so, last attempt resulted in Windows not wanting to boot at all
[05:57] <Quesce> o.o
[05:57] <Quesce> That's strange
[05:57] <Quesce> usually it will give you a choice..
[05:57] <AoP> It does
[05:57] <AoP> But Kubuntu is the default one where it goes after 10 seconds or w/e it'lll boot.
[05:57] <AoP> I want to change it so Win XP becomes that,
[05:58] <Quesce> Oh
[05:58] <Quesce> go to your bios
[05:58] <Quesce> also called setup
[05:58] <Quesce> then go to the boot section and select the one you want it to boot
[05:58] <Quesce> I think..
[05:58] <Quesce> Try asking someone else, I'm not as good at this.
[05:58] <AoP> That would be hitting F1 when my computer starts right?
[05:59] <Quesce> Yup
[05:59] <Quesce> and then going to the boot section
[05:59] <AoP> I tried that couldn't find anything for OS
[05:59] <Quesce> but i'm not sure if that will work..
[05:59] <Quesce> yeah, then I guess that doesnt work.
[05:59] <Quesce> sorry, can't help.
[05:59] <AoP> It's alright
[05:59] <Quesce> Do you by any chance know the firewall client for Kubuntu?
[05:59] <AoP> No idea -.-
[06:00] <Quesce> Hehe ok
[06:00] <rednaxel> what's "kded" for?
[06:01] <tolonuga> hi. is anyone using fligh dapper? my new laptops chipset is not working perfectly for xorg from breezy, so I wonder how stable dapper might be.
[06:02] <hugelmopf> AoP: you still looking for an answer?
[06:02] <melonipoika> AoP, how many options does it pront to you when you boot? (normally, 2 per installed kernel + 1 mem test + other OS's)
[06:02] <AoP> eps =\
[06:02] <AoP> It says
[06:02] <AoP> like...
[06:02] <AoP> Kubuntu
[06:02] <AoP> Then Kubuntu(safemode)
[06:02] <hugelmopf> AoP: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:02] <AoP> Then something else I think
[06:02] <melonipoika> count then (starting on 0) until you reach windows, and write that number on "default" in menu.lst
[06:03] <hugelmopf> and make the line "default 0" read "default savedefault"
[06:03] <AoP> I think it's 4 =\
[06:04] <hugelmopf> this will always default to the OS you booted latest.
[06:04] <AoP> Ya it's 4
[06:04] <hugelmopf> if you want to specify windows as a fixed default, you can also change it to "default 3" or whichever line windows is in.
[06:05] <hugelmopf> AoP: sorry, have to correct myself, it has to be "default saved" and not "default savedefault"
[06:06] <hugelmopf> AoP: got it?
[06:06] <AoP> Maybe lol
[06:07] <AoP> SO I change where it says default 0 to default 4 (win Xp)
[06:08] <hugelmopf> basically yes. i am not exactly sure about the number, depends on your list. try it.
[06:08] <AoP> alrighty
[06:08] <AoP> Says I cant save it because I may not have write access to that file
[06:09] <AoP> Or there may be not enough disk space
[06:09] <hugelmopf> which editor did you use?
[06:09] <melonipoika> AoP onto the file, right click, edit as root
[06:09] <AoP> Kate
[06:09] <AoP> o
[06:09] <Quesce> What is the Firewall client for Kopete that I must install ?
[06:10] <melonipoika> Quesce: try firestarter, it is for gnome but works fine
[06:10] <Quesce> Thanks
[06:10] <AoP> Alright time to reboot, dun dun dun :P
[06:10] <Quesce> Can I install firestarter through adept?
[06:10] <Quesce> or do I install through sudo apt-get install firestarter?
[06:11] <melonipoika> i think it should work for both
[06:11] <Quesce> it doesn't work for konsole
[06:11] <Quesce> i just tried
[06:11] <Quesce> is the name correct?
[06:11] <PeterSomnium|brb> sproingie: I can make the    and stuff now, but since the " is above the ', I cant do the " above a char with the compose key
[06:11] <melonipoika> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:12] <Quesce> yeah, doesn't work
[06:12] <melonipoika> Quesce: what is the error?
[06:12] <Quesce> E: Unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:12] <Quesce> Do I have to close adept?
[06:12] <PeterSomnium> sproingie: nevermind, I figured it out
[06:12] <PeterSomnium> thanks for the help
[06:12] <melonipoika> close adpet if you are running it
[06:13] <Quesce> ah okay, thanks. =)
[06:13] <AoP> Yay got it to work
[06:14] <chopemax> hi, how could I stop iptables to test the local network?
[06:14] <Quesce> melonipoika: when i try to start it with alt+f2 it says I have insufficient privileges to access it.
[06:14] <melonipoika> sorry, what is alt f2 doing?
[06:14] <Quesce> just to run it
[06:15] <Quesce> alt+f2 then i type in: firestarter
[06:15] <melonipoika> ah
[06:15] <Quesce> but then it won't start, it says I have insufficient privileges..and also, I can't find it in my K menu
[06:15] <AoP> try opening terminal
[06:15] <Quesce> that's why I had to do alt+f2
[06:15] <melonipoika> maybe you need to run it as root?
[06:15] <Quesce> Yup opened
[06:15] <Quesce> but is that safe?
[06:15] <AoP> cd to location?
[06:15] <melonipoika> sudo firestarter?
[06:15] <melonipoika> yes, of course
[06:15] <AoP> Best to listen to melonipoika
[06:16] <Quesce> how do I cd to location?
[06:16] <Quesce> i just typed sudo firestarter straightaway
[06:16] <AoP> Where did you install it or download it to?
[06:16] <Quesce> Er..wha?
[06:16] <Quesce> I installed it through terminal
[06:16] <AoP> Ok
[06:16] <AoP> Where did you install it to?
[06:16] <Quesce> No idea, usual place where they go to I guess?
[06:16] <AoP> k
[06:17] <Quesce> where do they go to?
[06:17] <AoP> try typeing
[06:17] <AoP> ./firestart
[06:17] <AoP> ./firestarter
[06:17] <AoP> *
[06:17] <Quesce> Hm..wait
[06:17] <Quesce> a wizard just popped up
[06:17] <melonipoika> don't you have an icon in system called firestarter?
[06:17] <Quesce> is this normal?
[06:17] <Quesce> melonipoika: Nope.
[06:17] <melonipoika> ok, so add it by hand
[06:18] <Quesce> How?
[06:18] <melonipoika> or try whereis command
[06:18] <melonipoika> i have no idea, i have the icon and i just press it
[06:18] <Quesce> Hm..where are programs located?
[06:18] <Quesce> i can't find them so I can't create shortcuts
[06:18] <Quesce> :S
[06:18] <AoP> did you type ./firestarter?
[06:18] <melonipoika> in a terminal, type "whereis name_program"
[06:23] <AoP> Dum deee dum
[06:26] <AoP> Quesce still need help?
[06:34] <hxkoh> meh
[06:34] <hxkoh> the firewall logged me off
[06:34] <Quesce1> I had to uninstall it before I could get back on here
[06:34] <Quesce1> =/
[06:46] <Quesce> Could someone help me? My Kopete doesn't seem to be able ot handle images
[06:46] <Quesce> or rather, send out images
[06:46] <Quesce> and files
[06:46] <AoP> Quesce:  did you get firestarter to work?
[06:46] <Quesce> AoP: Nope.=(
[06:47] <AoP> kk
[06:47] <AoP> I think I may know how
[06:47] <Quesce> AoP: Is it necessary for me to have a firewall?
[06:47] <Quesce> Ah you do? great! How?
[06:48] <AoP> did you type sudo apt-get install firestarter??
[06:48] <Quesce> yeah
[06:48] <Quesce> but then after that i went to adept and uninstalled it
[06:48] <AoP> oh
[06:48] <Quesce> Because: 1. I couldn't access it, 2. It blocked out irc and kopete
[06:48] <Quesce> =/
[06:48] <AoP> Well type in sudo apt-get install firestarter again
[06:48] <AoP> Then type in killall gnome-panel
[06:49] <AoP> Then Applications -> System Tools -> Firestarter
[06:49] <AoP> I just stole it out of a guide so iunno if it will work =\
[06:50] <Quesce> ok
[06:50] <Quesce> I'll try it out =)
[06:51] <AoP> Im gonna try it out to
[06:51] <Quesce> Heehee
[06:51] <AoP> Soon as I'm done updateing
[06:51] <jazwec> hi..please could anybody help me with resizing my ext3 partition?
[06:51] <Quesce> jazwec: same question I had earlier today
[06:51] <Quesce> qtparted doesn't support it, right?
[06:52] <Quesce> AoP: I don't have system tools in my menu
[06:52] <AoP> Check Systems then
[06:52] <Quesce> AoP: Nope, not in there
[06:52] <AoP> hmm
[06:52] <AoP> Did ya type
[06:52] <AoP> killall gnome-panel ?
[06:52] <Quesce> killall? yup
[06:52] <Quesce> no process killed
[06:53] <AoP> Hmm
[06:53] <jazwec> quesce i ccant click on that resize button in qparted cos its grey..how did you solve that?
[06:53] <AoP> Maybe Kubuntu doesn't use gnome?
[06:53] <AoP> Isnt ist like kded or sumtin =\
[06:53] <Quesce> jazwec: I didn't. I'm currently downloading Kubuntu's live cd
[06:53] <Quesce> AoP: =)
[06:53] <Quesce> *=)
[06:53] <Quesce> yikes
[06:53] <Quesce> =(
[06:53] <Quesce> I meant =(
[06:53] <AoP> lmfao =\
[06:53] <Quesce> my typing is bad today
[06:53] <Quesce> XD
[06:53] <jazwec> quesce do you think you can resize it with live cd?
[06:53] <Quesce> jazwec: Yes
[06:54] <Quesce> jazwec: by formatting
[06:54] <AoP> I just made x3 50gb partitions -.-
[06:54] <jazwec> quesce but i want my data :)
[06:54] <Quesce> jazwec: Yes you can keep your data..
[06:54] <AoP> 1 for windows 1 for Kubuntu and 1 for all the other crap
[06:54] <Quesce> Iunno.
[06:54] <Quesce> I only have 40gb.
[06:54] <Quesce> sigh. *goes to adept to uninstall firestarter*
[06:54] <AoP> lmfao
[06:54] <AoP> =\
[06:55] <jazwec> quesce mmm so i will take that livecd, boot it..and then what?
[06:55] <AoP> Ill keep working on it ;-)
[06:55] <Quesce> jazwec: it will ask you to format
[06:55] <Quesce> or something like that
[06:55] <AoP> I've been up for a long time =\\
[06:55] <Quesce> I'm not too sure at this point
[06:55] <AoP> Xbox 360 is just so much fun ^.^
[06:55] <Quesce> AoP: I've been up for almost 3 days straigh, living off 10 hours of sleep in between
[06:56] <Quesce> AoP: LOL
[06:56] <Quesce> XDD
[06:56] <AoP> lmfao Quesce
[06:56] <Quesce> AoP: Do you know how I can fix my kopete?
[06:56] <jazwec> quesce can i use knoppix?
[06:57] <Quesce> AoP: 1. It won't show my dp. 2. It won't let me receive or send files
[06:57] <Quesce> jazwec: No idea.
[06:57] <AoP> *looks to go seer what kopete is*
[06:57] <AoP> lol :P
[06:57] <AoP> I don't know how either =\
[06:57] <Quesce> XD it's the messenger client, the all-in-one
[06:57] <AoP> I want my hawt Dp's :P
[06:58] <AoP> I ju7st got a TON of errors =\
[06:58] <jazwec> quesce btw...with that kopete problem..1.) kopete sucks, its crashing on kubuntu 5.10...you can solve it with waiting minute or something around minute after start..2.) better thing you can do..is download gaim
[06:58] <Quesce> jazwec: Gaim doesn't have msn
[06:59] <Quesce> I don't need aim or anything. I need msn.
[06:59] <AoP> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/481776
[06:59] <Quesce> AoP: My amarok shuts down on me. do you know why?
[07:00] <Quesce> or rather, how I can fix it?
[07:00] <Quesce> it'll just close down
[07:00] <AoP> Ogm sweetness
[07:00] <AoP> A music player
[07:00] <AoP> And no Idea =\
[07:00] <Quesce> ogm sweetness?
[07:01] <AoP> omg*
[07:02] <AoP> I never knew there was a music player =)
[07:02] <jazwec> quesce no? im online on msn with ma gaim right now :)
[07:03] <AoP> ROAR
[07:03] <AoP> I cant acess a partition =\
[07:03] <AoP> It's the one I use to bring stuff off my windows one to my Kubuntu one =\
[07:04] <Quesce> jazwec: Really. Sounds good to me. I'm using gaim from now on.
[07:05] <AoP> I've got a 1kb partition =\
[07:05] <Quesce> o.O?!
[07:05] <Quesce> 1kb?XD
[07:05] <AoP> Ya
[07:05] <AoP> I'll use that for storgage =o
[07:05] <Quesce> where storage? o.o
[07:06] <Quesce> jazwec: Gaim's uglier =(
[07:06] <AoP> Im gonna use my 1kb partition for storage
[07:08] <AoP> YAY
[07:08] <AoP> I figured out how to access my storage partition ^.^ Yay music =)
[07:11] <Quesce> jazwec: Gaim only has the away status for msn
[07:11] <Quesce> jazwec: How do I set up a dp?
[07:12] <AoP> How do I move a file from one directory to another?
[07:13] <Quesce> Oh crud.
[07:13] <Quesce> No dp, no statuses
[07:13] <Quesce> *goes crazy*
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> AoP: may i suggest some reading?
[07:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell AoP about cli
[07:16] <nalioth> AoP: this will certainly help you in the future
[07:16] <AoP> Woot nalioth is alive ^.^
[07:16] <Quesce> nalioth: !! yay
[07:17] <Quesce> nalioth: x.x I can't get firestarter to work..and and kopete won't let me have a display picture/sendfiles out/receive files
[07:22] <gsnedders> how do you uninstall kubuntu?
[07:22] <nalioth> gnadders there's no easy way. do you need more space?
[07:23] <gsnedders> i'd prefer to put windows back on it before selling it
[07:23] <nalioth> in that case, just install windows
[07:23] <GnarlyBob> oh, just install windows, easy enough :)
[07:24] <gsnedders> as i thought... it's a bug in the freckin' windows installer
[07:25] <gsnedders> is there any way to format the disk before running the installer?
[07:26] <nalioth> gsnedders: ultimate boot cd may help you
[07:28] <gsnedders> shouldn't i be able to do it from the ubuntu installer cd, via the commandline?
[07:28] <nalioth> gsnedders: if you're linux savvy, you can do many things from the installer
[07:29] <gsnedders> what i don't know is how to format the disk from the command line
[07:29] <gsnedders> minor issue :P
[07:30] <nalioth> gsnedders: you shouldnt need to know how to format it, just to clean it, right?
[07:32] <thmmey> list voy
[07:35] <gsnedders> "a disk error was detected while writing a new boot record to your first [and only]  hard disk" - Windows installer
[07:35] <nalioth> windows sucks
[07:35] <nalioth> excuse me
[07:35] <gsnedders> i agree
[07:35] <stefano> lol
[07:35] <gsnedders> (i will admit I don't use linux as my main OS, but rather OS X)
[07:35] <GnarlyBob> I wish I could afford a mac :(
[07:36] <stefano> me too, rather than my palm/digicam/handy and stuff
[07:36] <GnarlyBob> I had osx running on my dell laptop for a while, but some important stuff didn't work
[07:36] <bipolar> Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck when they start selling vacaum cleaners -- unknown
[07:36] <nalioth> gsnedders: the windows installer has a rescue function., use 'fixmbr' or w/e
[07:36] <GnarlyBob> fdisk /mbr ? :)
[07:36] <stefano> alot of kubuntuusers are windows users too
[07:37] <gsnedders> nalioth: and how do i get to that?
[07:37] <GnarlyBob> I'm a kubuntu user because I couldn't stand pretending to be a windows user any longer
[07:37] <nalioth> gsnedders: when the windows installer boots, read the msgs
[07:37] <bipolar> I'm thinking about upgrading to dapper. I'm currently running breezy with kde 3.5. Any pitfalls I should know about?
[07:37] <nalioth> gsnedders: one of them will be "to rescue an exisiting windows blah"
[07:37] <stefano> yes i started to use linux because its so impressing when you press f12 and the console comes down :D
[07:37] <nalioth> bipolar: dapper is nothing but a pitfall at this time
[07:37] <bipolar> haha
[07:38] <GnarlyBob> I'm just hoping for better support for my chipset
[07:38] <GnarlyBob> but that's a kernel thing more than anything
[07:38] <Fazuul> So far I haven't run into any problems with 3.5 on breezy.
[07:38] <bipolar> well, currently I have no sound, and no video codec support since installing kubuntu-desktop. can it be much worse?
[07:38] <stefano> kde 3.5 runs fine here
[07:38] <GnarlyBob> It's been nothing but a nightmare for me so far
[07:39] <GnarlyBob> ubuntu in general on this machine, that is
[07:39] <ba747heavy> bipolar: I upgraded my Breezy to Dapper on my laptop and it had a couple of problems with networking, otherwise it is really stable
[07:39] <stefano> my arts crashes all the time, nothing worse than this shit, but now it happens only on bootup, so its okay
[07:40] <bipolar> ba747heavy: what networking problems?
[07:40] <bipolar> ba747heavy: minor config stuff?
[07:41] <gsnedders> nalioth: maybe i should've said it was 98SE, and i don't see any resuce mode. and when I press F1 for help it goes and crashes
[07:41] <ba747heavy> bipolar: probably minor config stuff.  I use ndiwrapper/wpasupplicant so I can use the wireless adapter, and it worked perfectly before the upgrade, but now the only way for me to connect is to open my access point.
[07:41] <bipolar> ba747heavy: oh. ok.
[07:41] <nalioth> ah, i suggest you grab the ultimate boot cd    ubcd.sourceforge.net
[07:43] <chino[server] > how do i update my sources ?
[07:44] <leafw> can anyone explain me how to type non-english characters using the alt key?
[07:44] <leafw> somehow the alt always goes to the menus, instead of letting me type e acute, or agrave
[07:46] <Fazuul> I need to get my hands on a copy of that OS X x86 install.  I want to try it out in VMware.
[07:46] <stefano> hey i need an uninfluenced answer: like what language does the german language sound?
[07:46] <melonipoika> like german
[07:46] <stefano> another one :>
[07:47] <leafw> like swedish
[07:47] <melonipoika> noo
[07:47] <stefano> wow
[07:47] <Fazuul> I'm told Norwegian sounds vaguely German.
[07:47] <melonipoika> not really, maybe a bit like datch, but not soo stronge...
[07:47] <leafw> danish more than swedish, actually.
[07:47] <stefano> as a german i cant judge about this
[07:48] <stefano> thanks guys you helped me a lot
[07:48] <melonipoika> you are wellcome
[07:48] <melonipoika> i have a linux question :D
[07:48] <stefano> go ask it
[07:48] <melonipoika> i have problems with konqueror, when try to open system:/media, it is empty
[07:48] <stefano> its normal :>
[07:49] <stefano> i have a friend who knows how to solve this
[07:49] <stefano> but he's on vacation
[07:49] <melonipoika> before there were some folders, but they dissapear
[07:49] <stefano> the same here
[07:49] <melonipoika> ah, ok
[07:49] <stefano> there is a file, you have to uncomment one line in it then it works
[07:49] <stefano> but i cant remember the file and the line
[07:49] <melonipoika> ah, ok thanks
[07:49] <stefano> go find it out and write an email :>
[07:50] <melonipoika> and i also have problems with aoutomount, it is saying that there is not a folder sda1 in media when i plug a usb stick
[07:50] <melonipoika> ok, thanks a lot
[07:50] <stefano> mh.. normally, it would show up in system:/media _>
[07:51] <xwolf-> yo, where can i get linux-for-complete-newbies tutorials or such? been thinking about installing kubuntu here...
[07:51] <leafw> WHAT THE ... I have lost all ability to make the command key in my powerbook to work as the control key!
[07:51] <stefano> xwold: just install it
[07:51] <stefano> the rest will come automatically
[07:51] <leafw> just by setting some keyboard layout. and then resetting it.
[07:52] <ba747heavy> xwolf: Download the k/ubuntu disks and install...it can't be easier
[07:52] <leafw> any clue on how to restore the default beaviour ?
[07:52] <stefano> indeed
[07:52] <leafw> pushing "default" doesn't do it.
[07:52] <stefano> leafw: activate root account, delete your user, set up a new one
[07:52] <leafw> stefano: ?????????
[07:52] <xwolf-> stefano i ran the livecd yesterday, felt really good. but i could configure my ethernet settings, what could that be?
[07:52] <xwolf-> *i mean i couldn't*
[07:53] <leafw> stefano: with the same name or what
[07:53] <stefano> i had to do that in config-files
[07:53] <hume> hi.....got problems adjusting KDE the way I want, on an IBM x31 thinkpad, 12" screen. By default the screen reulution was set to 75 dpi, while in reality it is closer to 105 dpi. I set it to 100 in kdmrc, but still icons are too big in start menu - anyone have advice on how to get it right?
[07:53] <xwolf-> i just put the IP Address and Gateway, but nothing.
[07:53] <stefano> im not responsable for any damage leafw
[07:53] <stefano> :>
[07:53] <stefano> but yes
[07:53] <leafw> stefano: I know.
[07:53] <hume> screenshots at http://www.vista.se/files/screen/images.html
[07:53] <leafw> stefano: there must be another way. What you suggest is insane.
[07:54] <nalioth> stefano: that's not necessary at all, the rescue option is at the boot menu for this reason
[07:54] <stefano> xwold: the files you need to edit are /etc/resov.conf and /etc/network/somethingidontremember.conf
[07:54] <nalioth> stefano: enabling a root account will cause problems with ubuntu
[07:54] <leafw> nalioth: sudo -i gives yo uthe root.
[07:54] <stefano> ah i didin knew that
[07:54] <stefano> yes
[07:54] <stefano> but dont you may enable the root account as a fully featured account?
[07:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stefano about root
[07:55] <stefano> thanks :<
[07:55] <nalioth> stefano: ubuntu is made to work with NO root account, and using a root account breaks some things
[07:55] <stefano> man i knew that stuff
[07:55] <stefano> yes thats new to me
[07:55] <xwolf-> i just can't get it working first time
[07:55] <stefano> because i read somewhere that you can enable it
[07:56] <nalioth> stefano: the wiki page i sent you tells you how, it also tells you it will break the OS in some ways
[07:56] <stefano> there is a cool script in knoppix to set up the network, i wish i could use it in kubuntu, but they force me to use this crappy kde-config dialogue
[07:56] <stefano> yes nalioth, thank you
[07:56] <nalioth> stefano: if you've lost your user access, the rescue mode from the boot menu will let you fix it
[07:57] <stefano> remember: i dont have any problems :>
[08:00] <leafw> stefano: a simple logout/login restored my keyword layout.
[08:00] <leafw> (which was reset, but changes didn't take effect from the System Settings panels.
[08:02] <Knowerrors> are the *.img files that k3b creates the same as an iso?
[08:02] <nalioth> Knowerrors: not sure
[08:05] <leafw> Knowerrors: depends on the options you created it with.
[08:06] <bipolar> ok. I started to dist-upgrade to dapper on my dell 600m. I'll let you all know what issues I run into.
[08:07] <Knowerrors> leafw: Under tools, theres an option copy CD or DVD, thats what I used... not really many options to choose there
[08:07] <leafw> well, then the options may be in the config (not sure).
[08:13] <Knowerrors> leafw: If I go to k3b setup, it asks for pass, I enter it, then it brings up a blank window, nothing more, same for you?
[08:17] <triode> hello. In windows there's the "start up" menu folder which runs commands at boot time, Is there a similar process in kubuntu? I need to run two commands everytime kubuntu finishes loading kde
[08:17] <stefano> yes there is
[08:17] <stefano> one
[08:17] <stefano> wait
[08:17] <triode> cool :)
[08:17] <stefano> its in /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart or something similar
[08:17] <stefano> check it out
[08:18] <triode> i found the foldre
[08:18] <stefano> in linux, every folder and every file is hidden when its name begins with a dot
[08:18] <stefano> put everything that should be executed on kde startup in there
[08:18] <triode> i need to add a couple of commands to it how do i do that? the folder is empty
[08:18] <stefano> okay, ill explain
[08:19] <triode> thanks!
[08:19] <stefano> create a text file, the first line should be "#! /bin/sh" (without "")
[08:19] <stefano> then, each line a command that should be executed
[08:19] <triode> what should I name the text file?
[08:19] <stefano> whatever you want
[08:19] <triode> oh, cool
[08:19] <stefano> the most important thing is that this file has the right to be executed
[08:20] <triode> and I can add several files too?
[08:20] <stefano> yes
[08:20] <stefano> you have to edit the permissions of the file
[08:20] <stefano> check the checkbox "executable" (or similar) in the file properties-permissions menu
[08:21] <stefano> and, there you go, thats all.
[08:21] <triode> so, for example, if I wanted to run kate and konqueror, I would make a file called whatever and fill it with line 1: "#! /bin/sh", line 2: "kate",  line 3: "konqueror" (all without ")
[08:21] <stefano> not really
[08:22] <stefano> this is only for bash commands (which you would enter in a konsole)
[08:22] <triode> ok, I think I got ti
[08:22] <stefano> for kde-apps you can create shortcuts (rightclick->new->shortcut) to do so
[08:22] <triode> and put the shortcut in that folder?
[08:22] <stefano> yes
[08:23] <triode> cool, ill try it now!
[08:23] <stefano> everything in this folder will be executed, but bashscripts cant open x apps because they dont know on which screen they should open them or so (i dont really know)
[08:23] <stefano> good luck bro
[08:24] <triode> i see
[08:24] <triode> one last question:
[08:24] <stefano> and i have one last advice
[08:24] <triode> I need to run one of the commands as sudo
[08:24] <stefano> thats easy, but wait a sec
[08:24] <triode> ok
[08:25] <stefano> the commands are executed one after another, so if you first type kate and then konqueror, the konqueror will appear when you close kate
[08:25] <triode> oh, thats good to know
[08:25] <stefano> if you need to open a program which should run all the time, make another script
[08:25] <nalioth> dont open kde apps with sudo, use kdesu
[08:25] <nalioth> !kdesu
[08:25] <ubotu> somebody said kdesu was :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[08:26] <stefano> but not in scripts i guess it should be enough to create the script as root
[08:26] <stefano> like this: kmenu->execute command-> "kdesu konqueror" and the rest
[08:26] <triode> I need to run two shell commands, one of them as sudo
[08:26] <triode> (the kate and konqueror were just examples)
[08:27] <stefano> okay, the command that should ran as sudo must be in a different bashscript
[08:27] <stefano> and this script has to be owned by root
[08:27] <triode> oh, ok
[08:27] <stefano> open a konqueror as root and edit the file preferences
[08:27] <stefano> (to do so, type kdesu konqueror)
[08:27] <triode> ok, give me a sec
[08:27] <stefano> yes
[08:28] <triode> what if I do "sudo pico filename" and write the commands, will that make the file owned by root?
[08:28] <stefano> i dont know, maybe some pro can help, if a script is owned by root, are the commands executed by root too?
[08:28] <dannythm> hello
[08:29] <dannythm> I'm trying to do a dual boot win2k/kubuntu with grub
[08:29] <stefano> yes triode
[08:29] <dannythm> I have kubuntu in hda1 and win2k in hdb1
[08:29] <nalioth> triode: sudo is ok in a konsole
[08:29] <triode> thanks!
[08:29] <dannythm> and modified the menu.lst to do the dual boot
[08:29] <dannythm> but win2k still don't boot
[08:29] <nalioth> triode: sudo works great for console apps, not gui ones
[08:29] <triode> how can I test the files I created? do I need to reboot/
[08:29] <triode> ?
[08:29] <dannythm> can anyone help me?
[08:30] <stefano> but you must open a konqueror with kdesu because you have to make it executable, or you type "sudo chmod +X filename" (i dont know if the x must be capital or small)
[08:30] <triode> nalioth: thanks, I think I got it, now I have to try it
[08:30] <nalioth> dannythm: it wasnt set up for dual boot when you installed?
[08:30] <triode> ok
[08:30] <dannythm> nalioth: I intaleed win2k after kubuntu
[08:30] <triode> do I still need the "sudo" part of the command if the file is owned by root?
[08:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dannythm about recover
[08:30] <stefano> dannythm: thats ya fault :>
[08:31] <stefano> no, just the command triode
[08:31] <stefano> or maybe
[08:31] <stefano> i dont know :> try without
[08:31] <dannythm> stefano: hmm.... I know it can be done both ways, it's only the way you change the menu.lst
[08:31] <triode> what I am concerned with is the pwd, i don't want it to ask me a pwd
[08:31] <stefano> yes then leave sudo
[08:32] <stefano> dannythm: okay, i never had to do so :>
[08:32] <_root_> hi
[08:32] <stefano> oh damn root is here
[08:32] <_root_> how are you?
[08:32] <stefano> xD
[08:32] <dannythm> i can post in #flood the commands I used in he menu.lst to set the win boot
[08:33] <stefano> i have no clue about this stuff, sorry
[08:33] <triode> i can't change the "is executable", it gives an error (just the file name)
[08:33] <triode> (in kdesu konqueror window)
[08:33] <stefano> what error?
[08:33] <triode> nevermind I think it wasn't an error
[08:34] <stefano> then try the chmod way ("sudo chmod +x [or +X]  /filename/with/path/")
[08:34] <dannythm> stefano: I have wina nd kubuntu in differnt hd's
[08:34] <dannythm> stefano: the mbs is still from ubuntu
[08:34] <dannythm> stefano: mbr
[08:34] <stefano> you would have more space on ya pc if you would delete windows :>
[08:34] <nalioth> dannythm: did you see the URL ubotu sent?
[08:34] <triode> stefano, thank you. Ill restart to test
[08:34] <stefano> okay youre welcome
[08:35] <dannythm> nalioth: yes, and it don't works for me
[08:35] <dannythm> nalioth: I only need to knw how to modfy the menu.lst to boot up both systems
[08:35] <dannythm> nalioth: using grub
[08:37] <nalioth> dannythm: edit your menu.lst, the URL should tell you how
[08:39] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i delete read only files from ntfs partitions?
[08:39] <stefano> as root
[08:39] <stefano> i guees
[08:39] <DjDarkman> same thing
[08:40] <stefano> well then, sorry i dont know
[08:45] <triode> i'm back, I can't get the sudo command to work
[08:54] <triode> I can't get the "sudo" Autostart script working, I think it's pwd related because if I run "./scriptname" (script that holds the "sudo" command), i am prompted for the pwd, after entering it, it runs perfectly, how can I bypass the pwd request?
[09:06] <Knowerrors> Anybody know some websites to go to sign up to get on alot of email spam lists?
[09:08] <GnarlyBob> that sounds like it's motivated by evil
[09:09] <covalence> or to feed a bayesian filter
[09:10] <Knowerrors> I want to flood my old free yahoo email address so it closes
[09:10] <stefano> lol
[09:10] <GnarlyBob> if you just leave it, yahoo closes it after a few months
[09:10] <AoP> lol
[09:10] <GnarlyBob> in fact, I think you can just close it somewhere on their page
[09:10] <Knowerrors> which will prob take forever, since they upped there storage limit
[09:10] <Knowerrors> really
[09:10] <GnarlyBob> I know email is disabled on my yahoo profile
[09:11] <stefano> send black(e)mail with it and call the police, then they will close down the account :D
[09:14] <Knowerrors> GnarlyBob: interesting, I'll have to check my profile/options
[09:14] <Knowerrors> I switched to Gmail, which is 10x faster and cleaner
[09:20] <DizzyDiz> Hello
[09:20] <y_o_u> hello
[09:20] <DizzyDiz> This is my first time using the #kubuntu channel
[09:20] <DizzyDiz> I'm looking for networking help
[09:20] <y_o_u> anyone here willing to help out a kubuntu n00b get a wireless pci card working, or point me to a useful "howto"?
[09:26] <bipolar> y_o_u: what card?
[09:26] <delltony> can someone help me in reinstalling grub trying to follow wiki but lost on the mount /dev/hda3 /boot/
[09:29] <chino[server] > how do i update apt ?
[09:32] <jaheire> hi
[09:32] <jaheire> whats my nick ?
[09:33] <jaheire> i cant see it
[09:33] <jaheire> is it jaheire
[09:35] <Knowerrors> jaheire: yes
[09:35] <Knowerrors> whats a good free people search? find address or phone number based on name
[09:36] <DizzyDiz> Chino, do you wanna do something like "apt-get install apt"?
[09:37] <DizzyDiz> I'm having trouble getting my Kubuntu install to resolve DNS names.
[09:38] <DizzyDiz> Can anybody advise?
[09:38] <bipolar> DizzyDiz: can you ping your dns server?
[09:38] <DizzyDiz> Let me try
[09:38] <DizzyDiz> Yes
[09:38] <DizzyDiz> But I can't ping any machines by DNS name
[09:39] <bipolar> check /etc/resolv.conf and see if your dns servers are listed there.
[09:39] <DizzyDiz> If I boot into my Windows partition on the same machine and use the same DNS ip I can ping machines by DNS name
[09:39] <DizzyDiz> Let me check
[09:40] <DizzyDiz> Yes they're in there
[09:41] <bipolar> try "nslookup google.com"
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Ccc@ccc:~$ nslookup google.com
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Server:         192.168.99.254
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Address:        192.168.99.254#53
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Non-authoritative answer:
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Name:   google.com
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Address: 72.14.207.99
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Name:   google.com
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Address: 64.233.187.99
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> That looks like it worked.
[09:42] <bipolar> then dns is resolving... ping google.com doesn't work?
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Let me try
[09:42] <nalioth> DizzyDiz: please dont paste in here
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> Oh yeah, that does work
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> Pinging google.com works
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> Maybe it's a setup issue with our office network
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> I can't ping internal machines by DNS name
[09:43] <bipolar> ohh....
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> External sites do ping.
[09:44] <DizzyDiz> Sorry for pasting
[09:44] <bipolar> the problem is that your network is not using dns then.
[09:44] <bipolar> your network is using wins
[09:44] <DizzyDiz> Is that so?
[09:44] <bipolar> so the windows machine's can ping but they dont use dns to do it.
[09:44] <DizzyDiz> Would that explain why it works on Windows but not on Linux
[09:44] <bipolar> right.
[09:45] <DizzyDiz> Thank you much
[09:45] <DizzyDiz> Can Linux use Wins? or do I have to move the mountain to Mohammed and change our netowork?
[09:45] <bipolar> no prob. tell your admin to swtich to dns. :) MS doesn't even use wins any more.
[09:45] <bipolar> I think you can... not sure how
[09:45] <DizzyDiz> Wow
[09:45] <bipolar> look at the samba tools
[09:45] <DizzyDiz> That makes me feel a little better
[09:45] <DizzyDiz> Thanx
[09:46] <kkathman> bipolar: actually they do, but only for exchange server and internal networking
[09:46] <bipolar> kkathman: ah... I wouldn't know about exchange.
[09:47] <kkathman> thats the only time they use it I believe
[09:47] <kkathman> Only reason I know, is that my company uses exchange server, and we have to have the wins set in Outlook to get to mail/network folders, even if we use a VPN
[09:47] <bipolar> yikes
[09:47] <kkathman> yah
[09:47] <bipolar> that sucks
[09:47] <kkathman> bleh
[09:48] <bipolar> I've never had a windows server at our office. Was novell, now linux.
[09:48] <bipolar> but I did have to work with wins a few times.
[09:49] <kkathman> near obsolete for sure
[09:50] <NRG^MaSSaCre> Hello
[09:51] <NRG^MaSSaCre> can someone tell me how to make my kubuntu linux server to a router?
[09:57] <AoP> Say if I was running a game, I started a new session and was useing Kopete on that, would the GFX all still be loading and stuff?
[09:58] <bipolar> O.o
[09:58] <AoP> lol stupid question?
[09:59] <bipolar> I don't understand it :)
[09:59] <AoP> I dont know if I do either =o
[10:00] <bipolar> you want to know if you'll get hardware accelerated 3D in both sessions?
[10:00] <AoP> Like when I change a session is it still loading all the GUI and stuff from the last one?
[10:03] <NRG^MaSSaCre> can i get som help plz?
[10:08] <NRG^MaSSaCre> hello some help here :P
[10:09] <bipolar> NRG^MaSSaCre: ask
[10:09] <bipolar> NRG^MaSSaCre: do some googling on iptables. thats whats used to setup NAT
[10:11] <eval> bonsoir tlm :)
[10:12] <eval> j'aurais besoin de l'aide si qcq est dispo (configuration wpa), j'ai essay les tutos que j'ai trouv mais je bloque qd mm :(
[10:13] <_martin> Any packages t o
[10:13] <_martin> enable Java?
[10:14] <nalioth> !fr
[10:14] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:14] <eval> oups sorry, I belive I'm on french channel
[10:16] <_martin> Are there any packages available in Adept that will enable Java support in FireFox?
[10:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _martin about javadebs
[10:25] <DjDarkman> hoe can i search for packeges in text mode?
[10:25] <bipolar> DjDarkman: apt-cache or auto-apt
[10:25] <osh_> DjDarkman: aptitude
[10:25] <DjDarkman> 10x bipolar
[10:25] <mac2612__> djdarkman, apt-cache search <query>
[10:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DjDarkman about apt-get
[10:29] <NRG^MaSSaCre> make a swedish channel plz :D
[10:30] <nalioth> NRG^MaSSaCre: have you checked if one is available? #kubuntu-se  ?
[10:30] <NRG^MaSSaCre> yeah i have
[10:32] <nalioth> NRG^MaSSaCre: how bout #ubuntu-se   ?
[10:32] <osh_> What do you need to ask in swedish that can't be asked in english?
[10:33] <NRG^MaSSaCre> easy for swedish ppl to understand if we can ask in swedish :)
[10:34] <sean> Question..  how do I get my ipod mounted so anyone can make changes to it?  Currently, I can update the database on it if I run gtkpod as root, but the mounting permissions seem to not let regular users do it
[10:34] <osh_> NRG^MaSSaCre: Ok, g till #ubuntu-se s skall vi se om jag kan hjlpa dig.
[10:34] <xehpu> hi
[10:34] <osh_> sean: add "user" to your fstab when you mount it.
[10:35] <xehpu> im a new linux user
[10:36] <sean> Thanks..  I have a related question but am in the midst of cooking dinner
[10:42] <Snake__> Who here can help me with superkarba?
[10:42] <Snake__> karamaba*
[10:42] <Snake__> whatever
[10:43] <Snake__> anyone anyone
[10:44] <osh_> Snake__: I'm using it. What seems to be the problem?
[10:44] <Snake__> osh_: I can't figure out how to install wigits or anything
[10:45] <Snake__> I downloaded liquid weather, but how do I open it??
[10:45] <kkathman> Snake__: did you also install superkaramba?
[10:46] <Snake__> Yea
[10:46] <nalioth> Snake__: everything you need to know is at the superkaramba homepage
[10:46] <Snake__> Well I guess the real question is, do I have uncompress this file??
[10:46] <Snake__> Because ark doesn't reconize it
[10:46] <kkathman> Snake__: Basically, create a directory in your home directory called "karamba-themes", download and untar to there, then install SK
[10:47] <sean> Okay, back.  My problem is that the ipod isn't consistently any particular device name.  sometimes it's sda, sometimes sdb, othertimes sdc.
[10:47] <sean> Depending on what I've been doing
[10:47] <kkathman> Snake__: you'll typically have to go into the subdirectory of the theme and choose the theme file
[10:47] <kkathman> but you do that in SK
[10:47] <Snake__> but what im saying is, how do I compress it??
[10:47] <Snake__> ark doesn't reconize it
[10:48] <sean> I figured a udev rule would make it mount consistently as /media/ipod no matter what, but I added the rule and it seems to be ignored
[10:48] <Snake__> what is skz?
[10:48] <kkathman> Snake__:  you dont compress it
[10:48] <kkathman> you uncompress it
[10:49] <Snake__> Uncompress*
[10:49] <Snake__> sorry typii
[10:49] <Snake__> typo**
[10:49] <kkathman> skz??? never heard of that one
[10:49] <Snake__> Ya thats what I downloaded it as
[10:49] <kkathman> odd
[10:49] <osh_> sean: Never had that problem. Sorry. Someone else might be able to help you.
[10:49] <kkathman> no clue about that...very odd
[10:50] <Snake__> hmmm ok
[10:50] <Snake__> ill find it in some other format
[10:50] <Snake__> i g2g
[10:50] <kkathman> all the ones I got, including liquid weather were gz
[10:51] <sean> Well, the problemseems to be that the device doesn't get mounted automatically in any case
[10:53] <am> hi ppl, just wondering if there is any kde 3.5 packages for PPC yet ?
[10:54] <bipolar> ok. looks like I'm upgraded to dapper. time to reboot and view the carnage :)
[10:55] <sean> Kubuntu uses udev by default, right?
[10:55] <sean> I' sort of clueless how this sort of thing is handled
[10:56] <am> yer udev is standard on most distros now
[10:57] <sean> Okay, so, any idea why this udev rule might be ignored?  BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="iPod            ", KERNEL="sd*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="ipod"
[10:58] <am> erm...well either it's black listed, or the Ipod's usb name isn't ipod
[10:59] <sean> how do I find out whether it's blacklisted?  I assume dmesg can tell me what the usb name is
[10:59] <pglee> can anybody tell me why the 5.10 installation might hang on the base install at 6% ("Retrieving Gzip")?
[11:00] <triode> Hello, how can I view a list of running processes? I am having a problem with a process that is giving me xruns in Jack (running realtime), this happens in exactly 60 second intervals
[11:00] <am> sean: i read an article a while ago but i can't actually remember how you query the device . If its blacklisted then it will say something like "not loaded due to blacklist"
[11:00] <sean> triode: ps -A
[11:00] <am> triode: ps
[11:00] <sean> [4301194.001000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[11:00] <sean> [4301199.001000]    Vendor: Apple     Model: iPod              Rev: 1.62
[11:00] <sean> [4301199.001000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[11:00] <sean> sorry about the flood, there
[11:01] <sean> Model: iPod, it says
[11:01] <triode> sean, am: thanks, but how can I see what program is doing this apparently scheduled operation? I have the exact time it's happening
[11:02] <nalioth> sean: please read the /topic (and use a pastebin)
[11:02] <triode> should I try start killing processes to find out which one is it?
[11:02] <sean> Thanks, nal, i will in the future
[11:02] <sean> triode: that's probably dangerous
[11:02] <triode> what if it's a process that is run only every 60 seconds and not showing on the list? can I view a log of run programs with time table?
[11:03] <sean> triode: you might want to bring up a task manager of some sort and just watch it
[11:03] <triode> sean: how do I do that?
[11:03] <triode> in windows you CTR+ALT+DEL does that, what about in kubuntu?
[11:04] <sampan> triode, open ksysguard and then watch the process table tab
[11:04] <triode> sampan: thanks, Ill try that
[11:05] <kkathman> greetings sampan :)
[11:05] <sampan> hey kkathman :)  have a merry christmas?
[11:05] <kkathman> yes I did, thank you for asking. Im hoping you did also :)
[11:05] <triode> can I log that information?
[11:05] <sean> Is there anything i have to do besides add the rules file to /etc/udev/rules.d ?
[11:06] <sean> as in, some sort of update program
[11:06] <triode> i mean, is there a way to log a time frame for that window?
[11:06] <sampan> kkathman  wasn't too bad -- very low-key but that's my speed :)
[11:06] <triode> if I start killing running processes, will it do any bad to my kubuntu install? or will it all go back to normal after rebooting?
[11:07] <kkathman> well sometimes thats not so bad sampan :)
[11:07] <sampan> triode, i'm not aware of a way to log ksysguard output, but i'm a newb so maybe there is :/
[11:07] <kkathman> triode: why would you want to log the output?
[11:08] <kkathman> nalioth: could you do a top > topoutput.txt  ??
[11:08] <kkathman> I think not
[11:08] <triode> because there's something happening every 60 seconds that gives me xruns (dropouts) in Jack sound server
[11:08] <kkathman> triode:  you could do a ps aux > logoutput.txt
[11:08] <pglee> any ideas why a 5.10 install would install the base system REALLY slow starting at the 6% mark? It's been at 6% for about an hour
[11:09] <triode> so, I want to find out what's doing that, and if the program isn't running, but is run every 60 seconds, then I wouldn't know
[11:09] <kkathman> triode: you could do a top in a console and just watch it
[11:10] <triode> kkathman: how is that done?
[11:10] <kkathman> triode: open a konsole and type top
[11:10] <nalioth> kkathman: ps aux>procs.txt
[11:10] <kkathman> thanx nalioth ;)
[11:11] <triode> ok, I'm checking that out,
[11:12] <triode> i'll brb
[11:14] <pglee> please help?
[11:14] <osh_> nalioth: why not this? watch -n5 'ps -aux >>procs.txt'?
[11:15] <osh_> nalioth: long and lovely proclist to debug... ;-)
[11:15] <nalioth> osh_: i'm not a guru, i was just offering what i know
[11:15] <osh_> nalioth: Me too. =)
[11:16] <synmoo> Question: Trying to pair my bluetooth mouse, and I'm able to 'browse' the mouse and see it's profile with Kbluetoothd, but how do I get it to pair with the mouse?
[11:29] <sorush20> how do I get my GPG, key signed? I've been looking at http://www.biglumber.com/ is this the best way?
[11:31] <nalioth> sorush20: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:35] <pglee> help with install problem?
[11:35] <apokryphos> !helpme
[11:35] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:35] <apokryphos> =)
[11:36] <pglee> during the base install, it gets to 6% (retrieving gzip) and slows down to near zero
[11:36] <pglee> it's been going for an hour and is still at 6%, but on some other package
[11:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pglee about verify
[11:37] <pglee> md5sum seemed to be fine...
[11:37] <nalioth> pglee: of the iso image and the burnt cd?
[11:38] <pglee> the iso. I guess I need to jerk the cd out cuz it's not responding to the eject button
[11:49] <pglee> where is the media checker on 5.10?
[11:49] <nalioth> pglee: in the 'advanced' menu
[11:50] <pglee> oh
[11:50] <Tackleberry> !nvidia
[11:50] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:56] <pglee> ok, so the media checker is doing almost the exact same thing as the install. It has (i believe) frozen at 10%. The HD light is constantly on, and the cd drive spins up for a second, then spins down again (over and over).
[11:57] <nalioth> pglee: burn your cd again, at the slowest speed available
[11:58] <pglee> ok, i might be back in a couple of hours