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lamonta500 won't run 32-bit, iirc12:36
lamontj5k needs some 64-bit love, but 32 seems pretty stable12:36
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fabbioneBenC: you didn't pull from me for 10.15, did you?06:54
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fabbionehey BenC 07:13
fabbioneBenC: you didn't pull from me for 10.15, did you?07:13
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-10.15 uploaded (The "Howdy Ho!" release, AKA amd64-alternative-smp + rc7)
=== Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Tue Dec 27 18:14:13 2005
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BenCfabbione: no, I didn't, wanted to get 10.15 out with the amd64 stuff, but it will be there for X.1602:56
jbaileyHey kids. =)02:56
BenChey jeff02:56
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zulheylo02:57
zulhappy post-boxing day02:58
jbaileyHappy my-sisters-birthday. =)03:01
BenChappy b-day to your sister :)03:01
jbaileyFun filled holidays!  A day for EVERYTHING!03:01
zulhappy hanauka03:01
jbaileyzul: Has that started yet?03:02
BenChappy I-get-my-powerbook-today day03:02
jbaileyBenC: Oooo!03:02
jbaileyBenC: Have those things started coming down in price now that Apple's moving away from ppc?03:03
BenCwould've gotten it sooner, except they spent 2 days trying to get Yellow-Dog running on it, and I told them I was going to reinstall anyway, so just ship it03:03
BenCjbailey: dunno, but I got a nice fat discount on it for being some sort of kernel person03:03
zuljbailey: yesterday i think03:04
zulBenC: hmm...maybe i should try that scam ;)03:04
BenCI used to scam a lot of hw when I was about 1303:05
BenCcalled places and said "I work for a magazine and want to review your product"03:05
BenCmy biggest score was getting the NES the day it went on the shelves, and having priority pre-releases from all the game makers03:06
BenCwas the envy of all the neighborhood kids03:06
zulbastard!03:06
zulls03:06
zuldoh03:06
zuli had legend of zelda and kung fu when i first got mine03:07
BenCzelda was awesome03:08
BenCI think I wasted more time on that game than any other03:08
zulyeah i still play it03:09
zuli had excitebike as well making courses was fun03:10
BenCyeah, excite bike was another weekend-killer :)03:10
BenCmike tysons punchout was another03:10
zulmetroid03:10
zulBenC: i broke my git tree this weekend again i have to figure out why im keep breakinng t03:12
BenCmmm...metroid03:12
zulthe other legends of zelda suck03:14
BenCyeah, never liked them much either, the original was simply the best03:21
jbaileyI should find the ROMs and play it. =)03:25
jbaileyPerhaps it'll give something for Angie to be addicted to aside from nethack. =)03:26
zuljbailey: actually at the malls you can get a controller with all of these roms loaded on well at least in ottawa03:28
jbailey*lol*03:35
jbaileyI don't have a TV is the problem.03:35
jbaileySo it pretty much needs to run on i386 or ppc linux. =)03:35
zulah well sucks to be you...03:36
zuli was playinng super mario bros in the mall on boxing day ;)03:36
dilingerjbailey: *tetrinet*03:40
dilingeryou need to get angie addicted to that03:40
jbaileydilinger: She doesn't enjoy competing against other humans.03:41
dilingerjbailey: neither do i, normally..03:41
jbaileydilinger: *I* however, enjoy a good game of tetrinet.03:41
dilingerhttp://www.retrousb.com/nintendo.html03:42
dilinger^ that is, btw, a requirement for playing nintendo games properly on your computer03:42
jbaileyAHAHAHAH Sweet!03:42
dilingerhm, price went up.  they were $24 when i bought mine03:42
jbaileyI swear those nintendo ones were the last game controllers that I  understoof.03:42
dilingerheh.  i had a jaguar03:43
dilingerhttp://www.retrousb.com/jaguar.html03:43
jbaileyIt actually says nintendo on it...03:43
dilingeri dunno what crack atari was smoking when they designed those controllers..03:43
jbaileyIs this an official product, or are they just refurbing them?03:43
zulcoleco damn it!03:44
dilingerjbailey: "official" how?  they start w/ actual nintendo controllers and USB-ize them03:44
jbaileyDoes nintendo still sell those?03:44
dilingeri don't believe so03:44
jbaileyRight, so they're refurb somehow.03:44
jbaileyMEans I should buy one before they run out. =)03:45
BenCI wish UPS had a GPS tracker on their trucks that linked to the tracking web page03:45
zulthere is probaly a market for nintendo03:45
dilingerthey have a whole lot more stuff now03:45
jbaileyBenC: Dude, that would so be a mistake. =)03:45
dilingerthey never used to have a powerglove03:45
jbaileyBenC: CAn you imagine all the hijackings?03:45
BenCjbailey: but I want to know the exact minute my damn package gets here! :)03:45
jbaileyIt would be clever if they could SMS you 5 minutes before.03:46
jbailey"Now would be a good time to put away the pr0n, wash your hands and put some clothes on.  -- UPS"03:46
BenCyeah, that would be nice, or atleast an extra line that said "The truck is withing 3 miles of your home03:46
dilingerjbailey: a video camera pointing at your driveway/street would do the trick as well, i'd imagine03:48
jbaileydilinger: I want push notification.03:48
dilingerheh03:48
jbaileyAlthough I guess image rec of a UPS truck might help.03:48
dilingersilly programmers and their aversion to polling03:49
jbailey"Large brown blob detected.  Either a UPS trunk or SAM heading your way"03:49
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jbaileydilinger: Not programmer, network engineer. =)03:49
BenCmaybe next time I'll get the person shipping me something to throw in a GPS transmitter box, so I can track it myself03:51
BenClike one of those child-wristwatch trackers03:52
zultie it around the delivery guy's ankle so you can see when he goes to the bathroom and ask yourself why is he doing that he should be deliviring my package03:53
zulor that could be too much03:53
dokoBenC: replied, but I cannot see a SMP string on a x2 CPU either.04:01
BenCdoko: I don't expect that there will be a string on real SMP machines, just on UP systems04:02
BenCSMP == > 1 cpu, or multi-core cpu's04:02
BenCeither of those will just work without the message04:02
BenCdoko: if you don't see it on a real UP system, then something is confusing it into thinking there is > 1 cpu, and I'll need to enable the debug stuff to see why04:03
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dokoBenC: no SMP string on a single core CPU04:16
BenCdoko: can you email me the full dmesg?04:18
BenCdoko: both dmesg outputs are truncated, and missing the initial part where the CPU's are detected and brough online, which is where the alternative SMP info will show up04:24
BenCmaybe I should create a proc or sysfs file to show the current state04:25
fabbioneBenC: ok, ocfs2 mostlikely will break the ABI04:30
fabbionethey do it very often04:30
BenCno problem04:30
BenCrest of my day is full04:37
BenClaptop just arrived04:37
fabbioneoh ehheeh04:40
fabbioneif you can't install breezy, let me know04:40
fabbionei have the modified breezy installer/kj04:40
fabbioneinstaller/kernel04:40
BenCcan you put it somewhere for me?04:40
fabbionesure04:41
fabbionecopying to chinstrap now04:45
fabbioneBenC: 04:46
fabbionefabbione@gordian:~$ md5sum ppcnetboot.tar.gz 04:46
fabbione08ba6c5bc0349da65f07a93a36a4de58  ppcnetboot.tar.gz04:46
fabbionefabbione@gordian:~$ ls -las ppcnetboot.tar.gz 04:46
fabbione27084 -rw-r--r-- 1 fabbione fabbione 27699200 2005-12-28 16:43 ppcnetboot.tar.gz04:46
fabbionefabbione@gordian:~$ 04:46
fabbioneit will be in my home on chinstrap in about 10 minutes04:46
fabbioneit has the netboot setup and the modified kernel04:47
fabbionebasically you netinstall..04:47
fabbionebefore you reboot you install the kernel that's in there04:47
fabbionethat's a .12 with the new PCI ID's04:47
fabbionenothing more04:47
fabbione(it's an old .12)04:47
fabbione.15 will work out of the box04:47
fabbionenow.. since our dear sysadmins have  broken archive.u.c it's not possible to complete stage2 in netinstall04:48
fabbioneand it hasn't been fixed in more than a month04:48
fabbioneif you want ubuntu-desktop installed 100%04:48
fabbioneyou need to do a bad trick with cdebconf04:49
fabbionebasically there is a template that contains a string called ubuntu-desktop04:50
fabbionesomething like:  ~tubuntu-base|~tubuntu-desktop04:50
fabbionesimilar.. not the same04:50
fabbioneyou need to change it to:04:50
fabbione~tubuntu-base|~t^ubuntu-desktop$04:51
fabbione(basically add ^ and $ to what's there)04:51
fabbioneBenC: upload done04:54
fabbionehave fun04:54
fabbionei need to go shopping04:54
BenCthanks04:54
fabbionelater04:54
BenClater04:54
fabbioneno problem04:54
fabbionealso.. i hope you have a USB mouse :)04:54
fabbionethe touchpad doesn't work yet ;)04:54
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zulhttps://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=167105:44
zulhey mjg59 05:44
mjg59Afternoon05:47
BenCzul: lol, what a constructive bug report05:56
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fabbioneBenC: is it working?06:17
BenCbreezy install didn't detect my cdrom, so I am getting the alternative boot setup06:17
BenCI'm going to try a dapper flight2 install first, because I'm interested in whether it works or not06:18
fabbioneyes i told you06:18
fabbionebreezy needs a crafted kernel :)06:18
fabbioneor try to install dapper06:18
fabbionethat's why there is the extra kernel in my tar06:18
fabbione.12 is missin the new PCI ID's for * in that box06:18
BenCthis computer is nice though06:18
fabbioneehhe06:18
fabbionei know :)06:19
BenCis yours 17"?06:19
fabbioneyup06:19
fabbionefinally.. i mean finally my adsl is back to a usable state06:20
fabbione650KB download today was quite hot06:20
BenCah, then you can appreciate the screen on this thing06:20
fabbionebetter than pron06:20
fabbioneBenC: yes!06:20
fabbionei only need to get sound working06:21
fabbionebut DVD video is hella cool06:21
BenCsound and touchpad are my first goals today after install06:21
fabbioneask benh and the other guy.. what's his name...06:21
BenCtouchpad should be working on 2.6.15-rc7 actually06:21
fabbioneit's not enough to add the ID to the appletouch driver06:21
BenCif not, I have a patch for it06:21
fabbioneah cool06:22
BenCyeah, I've been following the thread in l-k06:22
fabbionesound is loaded properly by alsa06:22
fabbionebut i didn't manage to get anything out06:22
fabbioneit might be just my settings..06:22
BenCI think there's an ID missing for sound06:22
fabbionedidn't spend more than 2 secs on it06:22
BenCI have a bug report about it06:22
fabbioneremember to install regionset once you have done06:22
fabbionethe DVD reader is locked06:22
fabbionesounds cool06:23
fabbionelet me know when i can pull and i will test my side :)06:23
fabbionebtw the change to the thermal_ will make you happy on ppc :)06:23
fabbioneit makes silence a few tons of entry in dmesg each time the fan speed change ;)06:24
BenChehe, thanks :)06:24
fabbione:)06:24
fabbione got fedup with it while building test kernel06:24
fabbioneand trying to get keyboard backklight working06:24
fabbione:)06:24
fabbioneanyway i need to go and clean the fridge06:25
fabbionei hate when my wife starts projects06:25
fabbioneand leaves them half way06:25
fabbionelater06:25
zulhehe..06:25
zuli hate it when my wife sweet talks me into letting her go to the casion06:27
BenCyou let her go and stay home? :)06:31
zulyeah..06:31
zulapparently im the responsible one with money this month06:32
BenCman, that should be the other way around :)06:32
BenChehe06:32
BenClittle more than a month till my Atlantic City trip06:32
zulit usually is but Im paying the overdraft this month..06:32
zulcoolio06:32
BenCI'll leave the day after I get back from the London Sprint06:33
zullondon sprint?06:33
BenCwe have another developer spring at the end of January in London06:40
BenCsprint06:40
BenClike a mini-summit I guess06:40
BenCdistro-team only06:40
zulah cool..06:41
BenCthis will be my first time off the continent :)06:42
zulbeen there done that ;)06:42
jbaileyBenC: Eh, cool.06:46
dilingerneat06:55
dilingeri just hung breezy's kernel w/ openswan :/06:55
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zulisnt it openswan the freeswan replacement?07:02
dilingeryes07:03
dilingeri mean, there's a few replacement07:03
dilingers07:03
dilingerstrongswan, openswan..07:03
dilingeropenswan is the most active, it would appear07:03
zulfreeswan was all about politics i find from what i remember07:04
makxteledat.sourceforge.net seems quite dead08:18
jbaileydilinger: Ken Bancroft from Ottawa had told me that the freeswan devs mostly moved to openswan.08:32
dilinger--- [kenb]  (i=ken@moe.vpsn.net) : Ken Bantoft08:32
dilingerthat guy?08:33
jbaileyHmm.  I thought it was bancraft.08:33
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dilingerhe was helping me earlier in #openswan08:33
jbaileyRight, Bantoft.08:34
jbaileyHe's in Ottaw.08:34
jbailey+a08:34
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zulgod i love wirless10:11
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