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bipolarI just noticed that kaffine does not like getting passed system:/ urls. it needs the full path to open media12:23
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TackleberrySomeone who can give me a tip of a fun and free game for linux?12:26
Hentai^XPET12:26
Hentai^XPAA12:26
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bipolarTackleberry: Eternal Lands is cool if you like mmorpg's12:27
bipolarTackleberry: need a 3d card though12:28
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elvirolohi all12:30
elvirolois anyone encountering probs with usb keys here ?12:30
elvirolocause when i try to use my usb key, i get the followin message "cannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:32
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elvirolohello?12:35
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slow-motionn812:39
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seanare entries in fstab looked up automatically or do i need to restart or run some sort of utility to update?12:41
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crimsunthey take effect immediately12:42
seangracias12:42
seanhm, I seem to have messed up my /etc/sudoers file.12:45
synmooQuestion: Whats the command to create a new xorg config? I was doing it yesterday, it walks you through each step then writes the xorg.conf12:45
seanxf86config ?12:45
nalioth!xcfg12:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:46
synmoonalioth: that was it. Thanks.12:46
seanOkay..  so, i messed up my /etc/sudoers file.  and now I can't sudo.12:47
seanhow do i fix this?12:47
apokryphossean: you really shouldn't be mucking up with that file?12:48
apokryphosyou didn't set up a root account ever by any chance?12:49
seanwell, there *should* be a root account, as far as I know.12:49
seancrap, crap on a crap cracker.12:50
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apokryphossean: nevermind, if not.....12:50
apokryphosrestart and go to the grub menu screen, and select "e" (I think) -- option to edit the boot. The command with "kernel etc etc" (long one), edit it and add init=/bin/bash to the end of the line12:51
apokryphosthen boot the command set; it should take you to a root shell without pw12:51
seanalright, thanks12:52
seanbrb, i hope12:52
seanif not, i'm screwed!12:52
apokryphossean: if not, then it'll have to be a live cd ;-)12:52
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Hikaru79Hello =) I'm using Kubuntu and I've got some NFS shares mounted through fstab. It all works great except that KDE insists on putting shortcuts to them on the Desktop. I really don't need them there, so how can I get rid of it? Should I just delete the icon? Would they return on next reboot?12:53
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apokryphosHikaru79: right-click on desktop -> Configure desktop > behaviour > device icons12:54
apokryphosmodify to your satisfcation 8)12:55
Hikaru79apokryphos, I think I love you. Thanks! ^_^12:56
apokryphos=)12:56
naliotheverybody loves apokryphos12:56
Hikaru79Worked like a charm12:56
apokryphosnalioth: my sister told me she hated me today12:57
Hikaru79:(12:57
naliothapokryphos: dont they all?12:57
apokryphosHikaru79: I love her most in heats of rage 8)12:57
apokryphosespecially when they're comical ones12:57
Hikaru79:P What'd you do?12:58
apokryphosHikaru79: bugged her till she'd let me go on the comp12:59
Hikaru79o_o I see. She's older?12:59
apokryphosindeed12:59
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seanIt worked - thanks, i can sudo again :)01:05
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rubemhi there01:09
rubemhow can I add a entry in the kstartbar that show the recent documents opened?01:09
Snake|Off_Eatingkkathman: youhere?01:11
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apokryphosrubem: right-click on panel -> configure panel > menus01:12
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_maxmoin01:14
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_maxanybody here?01:15
atenehi all01:16
_maxwow at least one ;)01:16
atene;D01:16
Snake__lol01:16
ateneI'm going out01:16
Snake__Im here01:16
Snake__but im not much help...01:16
atenebye01:16
_maxdoesnt matter ;)01:16
_maxwhere are you from snake?01:17
Snake__Ohio01:17
Snake__You?01:17
_maxgermany :D01:17
Snake__Ooo sweet01:17
Snake__Ever been on the autobahn? (Just out of curiousity)01:17
_maxofcourse :) at some places you have no speed limit01:18
Snake__Yea thats why I was asking01:18
Snake__Thats awesome.....I herd theres a lot of potholes and crap tho01:18
_maxsounds like that we are famous for our autobahnen?01:18
Snake__Nope, mainly for the whole WW2 thing.....but the autobahnen is pretty close :)01:19
_maxsorry, potholes? you mean the drug thing?01:20
Snake__No, I mean my friend said that theres a lot of holes in the autobahnen and stuff01:20
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_maxoh i see, well it depends very much on in wich party of germany you are driving. the ones in te west are having less potholes01:21
Snake__Ah thats good01:21
_maxi guess the german word for potholes is schlagloch :D01:22
Snake__Wouldn't know :)01:22
Snake__I only know basic german01:22
Snake__mutter, ich, small words like that01:22
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_maxbut please forget the ww2 thing, its boring to her americans say that if you ask them something about germany01:23
Snake__lol01:23
_maxwell words like mutter and ich are a quiet well begining :)01:24
Snake__Yep01:24
Snake__lol01:24
standahaha01:24
_maxit cant be that the ww2 thing is the only thing you hear about us, there must be something positive01:24
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Snake__Hmmmmm......rammstien is pretty positive :)01:25
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Snake__(Not the event, the band)01:25
Snake__lol01:25
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MrMazdaanyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?01:25
Snake__Ramstien was pretty bad I herd01:25
_maxyeahhh rammstein :) have you already heard about the new album called "rosenrot"?01:25
Snake__Yes awesome album01:26
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_maxrammstein bad? well if you dont like rockmusic its bad, but if you like it rammstein is great01:26
Snake__No no, what their name is based off of01:26
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Snake__"Ramstein" I believe it was an airshow where americans pilots crashed and killed like 40 germans....01:27
_maxyes thats right, rammstein is also an us airbase here in germany01:27
Snake__Haha I am right! lol01:28
_maxhow late is it in ohio right now?01:28
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Snake__19:2801:28
_maxlol01:28
_maxwe have it 1:22 am01:29
Snake__So its about.... 7:2801:29
Snake__PM01:29
_maxjupp :)01:29
_maxits pretty cold outside, damn snow :D01:30
Snake__Agreed lol01:30
_maxim glad beeing still alive ;) driving with weels that only should be used in summer is very exciting01:31
Snake__What do you drive/01:32
_maxa small european car :D01:32
Snake__Lol I ment what kind01:32
_maxbrand is seat a kind is arosa01:32
Snake__Never herd of it :-D01:33
_maxseat is a spanish brand01:33
_maxit belongs to vw01:33
Snake__Ah I see01:33
_maxyou now ve right? ;)01:33
_maxvw01:33
Snake__Yep01:34
Snake__I'm actually pretty into cars, i just never herd of seat lol01:34
_maxwhat kind of car are you driving?01:34
Snake__Lincoln Towncar01:34
_maxsounds small too ;)01:35
Snake__Hell no its huge01:35
Snake__its a boat01:35
_maxooops sorry01:35
Snake__:)01:35
_maxhow much hp?01:36
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Snake__Not sure01:36
Snake__Its a luxury car, not sporty or anything01:36
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_maxshit i just realise that i still shoud improve my english :D01:37
Snake__:)01:37
_maxsometimes some vocabluary is missing but im happy that you are able to understand me :D01:38
nalioth_max: you can improve your english by leaving out the profanity01:38
Snake__nalioth: Hehe01:38
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Snake___max: I have talked to much much much worse than you01:39
Snake__nalioth: wanna help meh?? lol01:39
_maxthanks sanke :)01:39
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naliothSnake__: ask your question01:39
Snake__Uhh I did but okay ill do it here too01:39
Snake__I'm trying to download http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28165 and everytime I click "Download Source" It opens it as a text document, if I right click, "Save as" then it saves a file called Download.php. If I open download.php, it opens as a text document01:41
Snake__How would I get that file??01:41
_maxprofanity is a good thing for a warmup nalioth :P01:41
naliothSnake__: kde-look is not known for their file integrity, i'll look, tho01:41
kkathman_max I'm pretty sure profanity isnt good for anything :)01:42
naliothSnake__: it download fine for me01:42
Snake__How??01:42
Snake__Then why does it do it for me...01:43
kkathmankde-look is a "take your chances" site..be careful :)01:43
Snake__lol01:43
Snake__kkathman: where other should I get karamba things?01:43
Snake__nalioth: perhaps theres something I have to change in my settings??01:43
kkathmanSnake__: Im not sure your browser is set up properly01:43
naliothSnake__: how bout right clicking on the link and d/l it with wget?01:44
Snake__wget?01:44
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naliothSnake__: in a konsole01:44
Snake__Dont have wget :-D01:44
naliothSnake__: sure you do, it's default01:44
Snake__I dont see anything that says dl w/ wget01:45
naliothSnake__: copy the URL01:45
Snake__OHHH okay01:45
naliothSnake__: open konsole and type "wget <PASTE>"01:45
Snake__that works01:45
Snake__Yes01:45
Snake__now new quesiton...how do I unzip this stupid thing01:45
Snake__skz...I had that problem earlier01:46
kkathmanskz Ive never heard of01:46
Snake__Thats what all these things are I think.....01:47
Snake__What if I just...dragged and dropped the files:-D01:47
_maxanyone using kubuntu under vmware here?01:49
Snake__HAH that works01:50
Snake__kkathman: you can just copy and paste the files out of the folder and it works01:51
kkathmanok01:51
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_maxoh man ich bekomme hier gleich noch nen fn :D01:52
hernanh01:52
nalioth_max: your characters don't show up on my client01:54
_maxdoesnt matter, is wasnt realy important ;)01:55
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_maxnalioth are you using vmware?01:56
nalioth_max: nein01:57
_maxwhat was that??? ;)01:57
_maxim very impressed :D01:58
bam_anyone know where the konqeror background image is at?01:58
nalioth_max: impressed with what? ich spreche ein bischen deutsch01:58
_maxwhere have you learned i?01:59
_maxit01:59
nalioth_max: i lived in Nrnberg for 6 years01:59
_maxas a soldier?02:00
_maxna dann kennst du ja unsere autobahnen :D02:00
nalioth_max: ich war ein sanitator02:01
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_maxbetter saving lives than killing02:02
nalioth_max: we can continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic if you like02:03
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_maxif you explain me how to get there .... its my first visit here :( ... sorry02:03
nalioth_max: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic <enter>02:04
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Tackleberryis it possible to just format the hdd from the kubuntu dvd?02:14
naliothTackleberry: yes.02:14
Tackleberryhow?02:15
Tackleberrywhat should i write in the "boot:"-prompt?02:15
Tackleberryi guess it's not format c:02:16
Tackleberryor?02:16
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naliothTackleberry: you asked if it were possible, and yes it is, but not from the boot prompt02:17
naliothi'm kinda not understanding your question02:18
Tackleberrynalioth, I ONLY wanna format my hdd without installing anything afterwards02:21
naliothTackleberry: then follow through the install procedure to the part where it formats and then kill the install02:22
naliothTackleberry: it'd be better to use a liveCD02:22
Tackleberrynalioth, ok thx02:23
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man2dhi all02:31
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bam_konqueror background image, how to change it?02:36
apokryphosbam_: make sure you're in file-management mode, then View > Configure Background02:37
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bam_file-management mode?02:38
bam_how bone head simple02:38
bam_geeze02:38
bam_forgive me I am still recovering from M$ hiding all the neat stuff, gnome/kde doesnt02:39
sorush20when kmail or contact asks for passwords kwallet doesn't become active to provide that pass how do I fix this?02:39
apokryphosbam_: =)02:40
apokryphossorush20: make sure you haven't set it to store the pass in the config files02:40
sorush20apokryphos: what config files?02:41
apokryphossorush20: in Settings > Configure KMail etc etc where you have your accounts -- don't select it to store the pass there02:42
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bipolarwhat version of xorg is supposed to be in dapper right now?02:50
bipolar6.9?02:51
crimsunyes.02:51
crimsunwell, 7.0RC02:51
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bipolarok02:51
crimsunDaniel won't begin pushing 7.0 final until after the new year (he's on vacation)02:51
bipolarok. I think I have mixed xorg packages02:53
bipolarspecificly the ati stuff02:53
knewbHi... does anyone have a fix for the dazuko & capability module loading issue, that doesn't require you to manually loading dazuko.ko?02:53
kkathmanyah ATI isnt Linux friendly02:53
bipolarkkathman: I keep hearing that but it works fine for me.02:54
kkathmanive always shied away from it myself02:54
kkathmanI think some of their "basic" stuff isnt so bad...but anything that has what I might call "advanced" stuff, esp the Radeon stuff, is iffy I think02:55
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bipolarGot a radeon 9000m in my laptop02:56
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Snake__Whats a good calander widgit for superkaramba?02:57
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bipolarwhenever I try to run anything 3d I get "ERROR: version mismatch - 2D module [8.20.8]  incompatible with OGL client module [8.19.10] ."02:59
bipolarglxgears, for instance02:59
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fdelacruzhello guys02:59
bipolarlooks like the openGL driver is older then the rest of Xorg02:59
fdelacruzany p2p client avail from repo?03:00
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apokryphos!p2p03:05
ubotumethinks p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo03:05
kkathmanSnake__: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2301303:05
Snake__Thanks kkathman03:06
kkathmannp03:06
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MrMazdaanyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?03:13
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Evil_Whisperhi, I'm new to KDE03:23
Evil_Whisperneed some help :(03:23
Evil_WhisperI'm trying to install the KlearBox Window decoration on kde 3.503:23
Evil_Whisperwhen I do ./configure --prefix=/usr03:23
Evil_WhisperIt gives me03:23
Evil_Whisperchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:24
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Evil_Whisperanyone?03:25
claydohyou need the x -dev packages03:26
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nalioth!xincludes03:29
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev03:29
nalioth!anyone03:29
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:29
nalioth!beer03:29
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Evil_Whisperthank you claydoh & nalioth03:30
claydoh:P03:30
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claydoh!crap03:31
ubotuclaydoh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:31
Evil_Whisperlol03:31
claydoh!soda03:31
ubotuclaydoh: Wish i knew03:31
GnarlyBobit's as long as my arm03:32
GnarlyBobbig as a two-by-four!03:32
Evil_Whisperwow thats a lot of packages :S03:32
Evil_Whispergrrr QT error03:32
Evil_Whisperchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:33
Evil_Whisper!QT03:33
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package03:33
naliothEvil_Whisper: you 'll need lots of -dev pkgs to compile03:33
naliothEvil_Whisper: the cost of becoming a developer03:34
kkathmanlol03:34
Evil_Whisperwhy does it take so much just for a little window decoration?03:34
naliothlibqt3*-dev is what you need, Evil_Whisper03:34
Evil_Whisper!KDE03:34
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:34
Evil_Whisper!KDE-HEADERS03:34
ubotuEvil_Whisper: I don't know, could you explain it?03:34
Evil_Whisperwhat about the kde headers nalioth?03:35
claydohkdelibs-dev03:35
Evil_Whisperthx claydoh03:35
claydohonce you have various -dev packages innstalled, you can compile lots of stuff :)03:36
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naliothEvil_Whisper: kde-devel03:36
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Evil_Whispercheck install work for KDE window decorations?03:37
naliothEvil_Whisper: use checkinstall for ANY compiling you do for a debian based system03:37
Evil_Whisperok03:38
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bipolarI guess I just need to wait until ati releases a new driver that works with xorg 6.9/7 properly.03:43
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mac__is there a way to have one's own modifications to ~/.fonts.conf not be overwritten by "kcontrol"?  Whenever I touch the Appearance->Fonts panel of kcontrol, it currently keeps wiping out my additional modifications (e.g., turning autohinting on/off, certain font remappings, etc.)03:44
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MrMazdanfs warning: mount version older than kernel03:50
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FHXHello all03:58
FHXCould someone please advise? Everytime I install a program in Konsole it gives me the following message after installation: http://pastebin.com/48241703:58
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naliothFHX: does this happen all the time or just started?03:59
FHXnalioth: All the time03:59
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FHXAnd after installation it doesn't appear on my K menu, however if I install something by adept it does.03:59
naliothFHX: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please04:00
FHXHm..I forgot how to get my sources.list. XD04:00
MrMazdaanyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?04:01
naliothFHX: /etc/apt/sources.list04:01
naliothMrMazda: each user is reponsible for their own sessions04:01
guest_ Is there a way to recover from a "sudo rm -r /*" without reinstalling?04:02
MrMazdahow?04:02
naliothguest_: probably not.04:02
FHXnalioth: in terminal i type that?04:02
naliothFHX: no. that is where your list is04:02
MrMazdais there something that can be put in .dmrc to force it?04:02
FHXnalioth: Ah ok04:03
naliothMrMazda: i have no idea. each user usually has their account set up like they like it04:03
MrMazdanalioth: the user is a 10 year old kid04:03
naliothMrMazda: then limit his permissions, and let him at it04:03
FHXnalioth: http://pastebin.com/48242204:04
MrMazdanalioth: she gonna be a Gnome user, but I'm a KDE user, and I don't want her forced into KDE when I was last user04:04
naliothMrMazda: if you limit her perms, she can choose whatever she wants04:04
MrMazdanalioth: she's not supposed to know anything about choice04:04
naliothMrMazda: then limit her permissions, log in on her account and set it up like you want her to have it04:05
MrMazdahow?04:05
naliothMrMazda: when you log out, the preferences will remain04:05
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MrMazdaI can't find any way to force a session type04:05
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FHX?04:10
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naliothMrMazda: at the login screen, type your younguns name in the user and the password. and click on 'sessions'04:12
naliothMrMazda: choose the session you want her to have04:12
naliothFHX: i find it unusual you've never contacted security04:13
FHXcontacted security?04:13
MrMazdadid that long ago, but how does that turn off her option to choose some other session type?04:13
FHXmeaning..?04:13
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NPC_CrysHow do I open konquerer with root level access to folders and files?04:14
mister_roboto!tell me about samba04:14
naliothFHX: please dont be dense. you pasted an error saying your apt was having trouble with ubuntu security repos04:14
naliothMrMazda: if her permissions are restricted, why does the session matter?04:14
xwolf-are there language packs for kubuntu?04:15
FHXYeah.04:15
FHXOk, brb.04:15
MrMazdanalioth: you lost me04:15
NPC_Crysanyone know it?04:16
xwolf-are there language packs for kubuntu?04:16
NPC_Crysxwolf what do you mean language packs? You mean can you get it in a different language?04:17
xwolf-yeah, exactly that04:17
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MrMazdanalioth: chown root.root .dmrc; chmod 644 .dmrc ?04:17
xwolf-i'm not the only one who's gonna use it04:17
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NPC_CrysYeah it ought to be available in a bunch.04:18
lewisneed some multimonitor help....with kabutu04:18
xwolf-you know where can i get it?04:18
FHXnalioth: I'm confused. When you say I'm supposed to contact security repos, how do I go about doing that??04:18
lewiswhere is the screen setup applet?04:18
lewisI need to the this setup working again.....http://www.umich.edu/~donofrio/snapshots04:19
naliothFHX: YOU DONT04:19
naliothFHX: your apt-get is giving you errors that IT ISNT04:20
NPC_Crysxwolf it should've installed a bunch of language packs with your initial install, but if it didn't I'd say adept is the way to go.04:20
mrtanooki:)04:20
FHXnalioth: Okay I'm still lost. What do you mean it's giving errors that it isn't?04:21
FHX?? Anyone else here understand it?!04:22
naliothFHX: you pasted the errors.04:22
FHXYes04:22
naliothi'd not worry about it, FHX04:22
NPC_Crysfhx your program is having trouble doing it.04:22
naliothit's not your system anyway, it's the remote server04:22
NPC_CrysIt's trying and it cant.04:22
xwolf-NPC_Crys i haven't installed it yet you know.. i just figured out it was actually in english and it should have a pt-br version cause of the family here... so can i choose which language i prefer, during installation?04:22
NPC_CrysYep.04:23
NPC_CrysThere's a good sized list.04:23
FHXAhh okay. Thank you, that makes sense now.04:23
NPC_Crysis that brazilian portuguese?04:23
FHXOne more thing, how do I create shortcuts?04:23
FHXWhen I install things by terminal through sudo apt-get they don't appear on my K menu04:24
xwolf-yes NPC_Crys04:24
NPC_Crysfhx alot of them only do when kde restarts so try logging out and back in first.04:24
FHXNPC_Crys: Okay, thanks. ^^04:24
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lewisanyone here multi-screen xorg'ers?04:24
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NPC_CrysBye.04:25
NPC_Cryshey nalioth04:25
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naliothFHX_brb: are you installing graphical apps or terminal apps?04:25
naliothNPC_Crys: yes?04:25
xwolf-NPC_Crys a new partition is necessary for the installation, right?04:25
NPC_CrysYou know how to start up konquerer in root access mode?04:25
NPC_CrysOr else how to edit system files with it?04:25
NPC_Crysxwolf-: You will need two unless you allready have swap space on your hard drive from another linux system.04:26
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naliothxwolf-: the installer can create some space, if you want it to04:26
naliothNPC_Crys: are you talking to me?04:27
NPC_CrysYep.04:27
NPC_Crysalso, can the installer actually open up space? Like re-size partitions?04:27
xwolf-well, i'm a complete newbie in what comes to linux and all, so i'm kinda asking things before installing it.. shouldn't i create a partition before i install it?04:28
naliothNPC_Crys: it works best if you preface folks' names when you are addressing them04:28
naliothNPC_Crys: whatever you are comfortable doing. the installer has safely resized several machines i've done for clients04:28
NPC_Crysxwolf-: I'd say yes. Also, if you are keeping your windows system, make sure it is not ntfs formatted.04:28
naliothntfs is not a problem during the install04:29
xwolf-the new partition? not ntfs formatting?04:29
NPC_Crysno, the windows partition.04:29
NPC_Cryshas to be fat32 or else grub won't be able to boot it.04:30
xwolf-it IS ntfs, but in what does that interfere?04:30
NPC_CrysOr so I hear.04:30
NPC_CrysAlthough there is a hack I hear.04:30
naliothnot so04:30
naliothntfs is fine04:30
Hentai^XPntfs works fine04:30
NPC_CrysYeah?04:30
NPC_CrysOkay, so ignore me then.04:30
xwolf-haha, ok04:31
NPC_CrysOkay cya. I can't stick around anymore.04:31
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xwolf-nalioth why couldnt i connect when running live session?04:34
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xwolf-i put ip address and gateway, enabled eth0 but nothing happened04:35
naliothxwolf-: there are things you're not telling us04:35
xwolf-such as?04:36
xwolf-i'm connected through a router modem.. it responded to ping04:36
xwolf-tried www.google.com but it didnt go04:37
xwolf-nalioth does that mean dns problem?04:37
naliothsounds like it, xwolf-04:37
xwolf-i tried to add one, but it kept saying i had to add an alias first04:38
xwolf-but that didnt solve my problem04:38
naliothi'm not up on dns, perhaps ask in #ubuntu04:38
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xwolf-thanks anyway04:39
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guest_still need multimonitor help04:42
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guest_anyone here run with four screens?04:49
guest_anyone?04:52
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FHXHello all, I tried the suggestion earlier and I restarted my computer, but the Firestarter shortcut is still not available in my K menu. Also, I tried running gksudo /usr/bin/firestarter and it doesn't open. It asks for my password but after that it doesn't open. Please advise?04:54
naliothFHX: alt-f2 > gksudo firestarter04:54
FHXnalioth: Hm..that worked. o.o04:55
FHXCould you tell me how I can create a shortcut for it in my menu?04:55
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FHXHm..04:57
FHXnalioth: The firewall just shut down by itself...i minimized it to system tray and now, after about 5 minutes, it has disappeared.04:59
naliothFHX: kde comes with a menu editor, try right clicking on the k04:59
naliothFHX: did you do anything to firestarter?04:59
FHXnalioth: Nothing. I ran through wizard, that's about it04:59
naliothso you were just watching it?04:59
FHXI watched it to check that it detected my stuff like IRC, then I closed it so it minimized to the system tray where I could see its icon and still open/minimize it..then now it's gone from system tray, so I assume it's shut itself down05:00
naliothFHX: in a konsole, type "ps aux|grep firestarter"05:01
FHXhxkoh     8893  0.0  0.2   3064   756 pts/1    S+   12:01   0:00 grep firestarter05:01
naliothyup, it's gone alright.05:04
FHXAnd also, about the shortcut thing, I tried right-click menu-editor to add Firestarter but it's not listed there at all05:04
naliothi don't run kde, but i do know that it has a menu editor. operation of said editor i leave up to you05:04
FHXnalioth: Hm...ok I'll try and see what I can find.05:05
FHXSo firewall is still running?05:05
FHXStrange. It's not on my menu.05:05
naliothFHX: it is not.05:05
FHX*system tray05:05
FHXo.o That means it shut down on its own.05:06
FHXnalioth: Firestarter shut down on its own..05:09
naliothyes it did.05:09
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FHXIt's supposed to do that?05:09
sampanfhx, try in konsole: sudo iptables -L05:12
naliothi dont use it, it's not necessary05:12
sampandoes that output a long list of chains/rules?  if so, then firestarter did it's job and wrote an iptables (firewall rules)05:12
sampanthe process doesn't have to stay running for it to work, only if you want to watch the firestarter log of hits (ips and ports)05:13
FHXOh..the konsole output is a long list of Drops, Accepts, etc.05:14
naliotha "firewall" is not necessary05:14
FHXAh okay, so it's actually working as pernormal. Thanks ^^05:14
naliothi find windows users have become 'conditioned' into thinking that it is, but it is not needed here05:15
FHXYeah, I'm new to Linux.05:15
FHXHowever I still can't get it on my menu no matter what I try. XD05:15
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ShadymanHey all05:17
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sampanfhx, if you open the kmenu editor, you should be able to add an entry for it (icon will likely be found under "other icons" and command is simply: kdesu firestarter) -- that's how i set mine up05:18
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FHXsampan: Ok I'll try that out05:18
jaheirehi can someone tell me what fluxbox is05:19
chris70jaheire: It's a window manager05:19
sampanspeaking of the kmenu though, i have a "Debian" entry with a bajillion submenus and i can't edit them AT ALL.  if i make changes and save, it just ignores them -- can't even change icons05:19
FHXWorks well, excellent. ^^05:19
jaheirechris70: is that the same thing as kde ?05:21
naliothjaheire: it is similar. think of window managers like they were cars. different models do different things05:21
jaheireok right05:21
jaheireso gnome, kde and fluxbox are all windows managers ?05:22
naliothjaheire: also known as Desktop Environments05:22
jaheireok05:22
jaheiredoes fluxbox come with the kubuntu install ?05:23
naliothno, but you can apt-get it05:23
jaheirek05:23
jaheireand then when i reboot i can just choose to start into fluxbox05:23
naliothare you interested in alternative DEs or were pointed to flux in particular?05:23
naliothno need to reboot05:24
naliothin linux you only need to reboot when you upgrade a kernel05:24
jaheireoh i was just looking at it, read about it on a forum05:24
naliothjust log out and at the login screen, click "sessions" > fluxbox05:24
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jaheireok cool05:25
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jaheireso do i need fluxconf also ?05:26
micahfhey is anyone using dialup on kubuntu?05:26
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jaheireor just fluxbox05:26
naliothjaheire: fluxbox is not for novitiates, i recommend you read the fluxbox homepage docs05:26
jaheirehehe ok :)05:27
jaheireso i will wait05:27
naliothjaheire: they are well written and will get you goin with a minimal of confusion05:27
jaheireok because im definitely a novice05:28
jaheireheh05:28
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naliothjaheire: the flux homepage has some very good docs to get you started05:29
jaheireyeh im reading it now :) thanks nalioth05:31
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ShadymanKubuntu comes with KDE 3.5, right?05:36
naliothShadyman: i believe it does not.05:37
Shadymannalioth: So it's 3.4, then.05:38
naliothShadyman: if you want 3.5, stand by for news05:38
nalioth!kde3.505:38
ubotukde3.5 is, like, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php05:38
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ShadymanKiller.05:39
ShadymanHow much different is 3.5, as far as usability goes?05:39
naliothi dont use anthing like that. i keep a buncha terminals up in a default gnome session05:40
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FHXHey all, I'm running from the live cd..how do I open parted? it's installed but I don't know how to open it.05:45
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nalioth_zZzFHX: alt-f2 > gksudo gparted05:45
FHXAHh ok05:45
FHXThanks05:45
FHXRoughly how long does it take to resize partitions?05:50
FHXXD05:50
ShadymanFHX: A while.05:50
FHXOkay, because the bar thingy hasn't showed any progress in gparted, so I thought it might have been an error.05:50
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Snake__Whats KDEs Email thingy?06:05
Snake__For sneding emails and stuff06:05
sampankmail ?06:05
Shadymanwhatever it is, probably starts with a K.06:05
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Snake__Indeed Shadyman06:05
Snake__hmmmm06:06
sampanshadyman  is korrect -- he gets a kookie06:06
Snake__This is no good...06:06
Snake__I want thunderbird06:06
Snake__wait...thunderbirds on linux aint it??06:06
ShadymanYep06:06
ShadymanGo for it.06:06
Shadymanand Firefox.06:06
sampansylpheed is a nice email client -- iirc it uses gtk (not qt), but it's still a very nice app06:06
Snake__Woo06:06
Snake__I got FF06:06
ShadymanSnake__: :D06:07
ShadymanSnake__: Uh oh, Thunderbird doesn't start with a K. *Kernel panic: Continuity error.06:07
Snake__OH06:07
Snake__My god.06:07
Snake__I shouldn't install this then...06:07
ShadymanSnake__: We'll just nickname it Kunderbird, then.06:08
Snake__LOL06:08
Snake__thats what I was just typing06:08
ShadymanSnake__: Wow.06:08
Snake__Blunderbird...06:09
Snake__er06:09
ShadymanNow, now.. We only make fun of Microsoft products.06:09
Snake__haha06:09
Snake__Microshit.......06:09
ShadymanSnake__: What version of KDE you do you have?06:09
kub-01so if i say microsoft owns, will i get made fun of (since that could arguably imply i myself have become a microsoft product)?06:10
Snake__3.406:10
Shadymankub-01: Possibly.06:10
kub-01microsoft owns...06:10
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Snake__kub-01: Yes you will.06:10
ShadymanSnake__: You can upgrade to 3.5 if you want..06:10
Snake__kub-01: Crash much?06:10
Snake__er06:10
Shadymanhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php06:10
ShadymanSnake__: Not sure.06:10
Snake__Yea I know, I had it06:10
ingratohow do I install flash support for konqueror?06:10
kub-01eh, i guess i crash about as much as you do - around 6-8 hours a night06:10
ingratocan I do it from adept?06:10
Snake__but I just did a fresh install and I got a whole bunch of customizations I dont want to lose06:10
ShadymanOh, hahah.06:10
Snake__I dont know if upgrading will ruin it06:11
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kub-01sometimes i'll sleep in late :)06:11
ShadymanSnake__: It shouldn't, it'd be a strait upgrade, I think.06:11
Snake__Like I got custom toolbars and panels and custom images on them06:11
Snake__yada yada06:11
Snake__ custom buttons06:11
ShadymanSnake__: Yeah.06:11
ShadymanSnake__: I've done that about 3 times now LOL06:12
Snake__So it wont screw it up06:12
ShadymanSnake__: I've been flipflopping with flavors of linux.06:12
ShadymanSnake__: I'm not sure. Maybe someone could say for sure06:12
Snake__Anyone on 3.5 COME TO THIS ROOM06:12
Snake__lol06:12
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ingratohow do I install flash support?06:14
ShadymanSnake__: Wouldn't they  have to be In this room already to read that?06:14
Shadyman!flash06:14
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:14
Shadyman!macromedia06:14
ubotuShadyman: Wish i knew06:14
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ingratohmm06:16
Snake__kkathman: are you avalible?06:16
ingratoany idea?06:16
Shadymaningrato: Have you tried getting it from Macromedia?06:17
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nalioth_zZzSnake__: what do you need?06:17
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Shadymaningrato: Or what about apt-get?06:17
nalioth_zZzingrato: flash is available, follow ubotu's link06:17
ingratoapt-get flash?06:17
ingratoinstall06:17
Shadyman!flash06:17
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:17
Shadymantry that link06:17
restagneri've just installed kubuntu and love it!!06:18
Shadymanrestagner: Me too :)06:18
nalioth_zZzSnake__: what did you need?06:18
ingratook06:18
restagnerone problem, though, i can't seem to print from firefox...anybody able to print from firefox?????06:18
Snake__nalioth_zZz: I want to know if I go KDE 3.4 ---> 3.5 will I lose all my custom buttons06:18
Snake__and panels and what not06:18
Shadymanrestagner: Yep.06:18
Shadymanrestagner: Have you set up your printer?06:18
restagnerShadyman: how?06:18
restagnerShadyman: yes. i'm using CUPS06:19
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Shadymanrestagner: You added your printer as a printer in the Printer section of the Settings panel?06:19
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ingratoShadyman, in order to apt-get it, I need what server,c ause it can't find it when I use apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla06:20
nalioth_zZzSnake__: all the settings in /home/snake/.kde should be unchanged06:20
restagnerShadyman: i went to the System Settings -> Printers and opened the GUI application that allows one to add a printer06:20
Snake__Alrighty so like...it will still have my 2 panels06:20
Snake__nalioth_zZz: and crap like that?06:20
Shadymanrestagner: Yes.06:20
nalioth_zZzSnake__: it should appear as it does now.06:20
Snake__Okie dokie06:21
ShadymanSnake__: I guess there's your answer :D06:21
Snake__Im gonna go for it06:21
Snake__:)06:21
nalioth_zZzdont forget the key.06:21
Snake__thanks nalioth_zZz06:21
nalioth_zZzSnake__: to add to your keyring06:21
Snake__Yea I know, ive done it once06:21
nalioth_zZzgood night06:21
restagnerShadyman: after the app. opened i clicked on the administration mode button and went about adding my printer06:21
sampanrestagner  can you print from other applications?06:21
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Snake__Night06:21
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restagnersampman: yes i can print from kate06:22
restagneri love using firefox...i'd hate that having no print capabilities would hinder my use of this application06:23
Shadymanrestagner: I understand :)06:23
restagnerany ideas? anyone? :-)06:23
sampani had that same problem a while back -- can't remember if it was at the end of hoary or first install of breezy though.06:23
sampanrestagner  did you use the Automatix script to install a bunch of stuff? (i kinda think that's what caused it for me, but not 100% sure)06:24
restagnersampan: i'm not sure what Automatix is...i don't think i used it06:25
sampangood -- it broke my system :)06:25
sampani empathize with you though -- i was -really- frustrated when i had that problem (eventually i reinstalled, due to other reasons ...and it went away)06:26
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thoreauputic!automatix06:26
ubotumethinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!06:26
thoreauputic!good bot06:26
ubotuthanks thoreauputic :)06:26
Shadymanlol06:26
restagneri just used the printer configuration tool from within KDE and clicked Add-> Printer class06:26
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=== sampan took the "learn the hard way" route with Automatix ;/
thoreauputicsampan: general rule: if you don't understand a script, don't use it ;)06:27
Snake__!kde3.506:28
restagnerthoreauputic: good rule to live by :-)06:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php06:28
thoreauputicin other words, if you understand it you can see where $script is broken, so you'll shun it06:28
sampanthoreauputic  good rule ... but of course, i don't really "understand" 99.9% of linux anyway, so if i truly stuck to that route, i wouldn't be here at all ;/06:28
invisiusshould i update linux-image-386?06:28
thoreauputicsampan: heh - yes, well we have to trust the Ubuntu/Kubuntu developers :)06:29
thoreauputicsampan: and nobody understands all that stuff, so point taken :)06:29
sampanthoreauputic  indeed -- even if i knew what it all meant, there's no way i'm going through all the OS code to find stuff ;/06:30
thoreauputicsampan: you're pretty safe with standard Ubuntu repos06:30
invisiuscan someone help?06:30
Shadymanthoreauputic: Don't do what i just did with Fedora and just go adding random repos.06:31
sampani knew i was taking a gamble on the automatix script, but i still did it for two reasons (a) the community cd install thing worked flawlessly for me on hoary and (b) i knew if it broke stuff a fresh install wasn't that big of a deal -- just 30 minutes of time06:31
Shadymanthoreauputic: It results in a lot of random crud.06:31
thoreauputicapart from the occasional bug....06:31
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thoreauputicShadyman: I only use main, universe and multiverse - except for a few apps like skype, and possibly codecs etc - I don't use extra repos unless I know what the heck they might do to the system, and I comment them out after getting what I need06:32
thoreauputicbut for less experienced people I advise only the three Ubuntu repos, basically06:33
invisiusplease anyone can assist?06:33
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thoreauputicinvisius: have you even asked a question yet?06:34
invisiusyes06:34
invisius"should i update linux-image-386?"06:34
thoreauputicinvisius: probably06:34
invisiusi noticed there are mant different versions in adept06:34
thoreauputicinvisius: you mean a security update or what?06:35
invisiusi am pretty new to this, so im not sure what to do06:35
invisiusis that what it is?06:35
invisiusthe package says "linux kernel image on 386" upgradeable06:35
thoreauputicinvisius: what kind of processor are you using? what does uname -m say ?06:36
invisiuspentium M 2.206:36
invisiusi68606:36
thoreauputicinvisius: OK well your current kernel is fine but you might like to upgrade to a i686 kernel06:37
invisiuswould i notice much improvement?06:37
thoreauputicinvisius: in general if adept says you have updates you should make them06:37
invisiusalright06:37
thoreauputicinvisius: not a huge diff between i386 and i686, no06:37
Shadymanno, but specific packages can't hurt.06:38
invisiusi heard it might mess with the applications too06:38
invisiuswould you advise it?06:38
thoreauputicmight help with multimedia and other cpu intensive stuff06:38
Shadymaninvisius: If applications are compiled as i386, they will run as i386, IIRC.06:38
Shadymaninvisius: They won't use 686 extensions06:39
invisiusok06:39
ShadymanCorrect me if i'm wrong, anyone06:39
thoreauputicinvisius: changing to i686 can't hurt - and the other kernel will still be there as a fallback anyway06:39
invisiusalright good, so which packages do i select to upgrade?06:39
thoreauputicinvisius: usually you just select whatever is upgradable and let it happen06:40
invisiussorry i meant install06:40
invisiusto move to the i68606:40
thoreauputicinvisius: ah I see - linux-image-686  from memory06:41
invisiusok06:41
invisiusi also see "linux-686" and "linux-image-2.6.12-10-686"06:41
thoreauputicuse linux-68606:41
thoreauputicthat pulls in restricted modules etc IIRC06:42
invisiusok06:42
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thoreauputicjust checked, and it does (  apt-cache depends linux-686)06:43
thoreauputicif you want to learn about apt/dpkg, install  apt-howto-en06:43
FHXReceived URL file:///home/hxkoh/screenie.jpg06:43
FHXCould not change local directory to /home/hxkoh/screenie.jpg: Not a directory06:43
thoreauputicwell, it isn't a directory, is it? What are you actually doing to get that error ?06:44
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Snake__Okay does anyone but me have issues with KDE 3.5 and custom panel backgrounds?06:59
ShadymanUh oh.07:01
Snake__What07:01
ShadymanSux that it didnt work 100%07:01
Shadymaneverything else ok tho?07:01
Snake__Oh its updated and everything07:01
Snake__But like....its weird07:01
ShadymanHmm07:01
Snake__Hang on look at this screeny07:01
Snake__one momen07:01
Snake__t07:01
Shadymank07:02
FHXthoreauputic: I was trying to upload an image through ftp to my website07:02
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thoreauputicFHX: using what ? to upload a simple screenshot you could even use command line ftp07:03
FHXthoreauputic: Oh..sorry. I was using gftp, so I dragged the image file from my home directory to my online directory07:03
Shadymanubotu: tell me about rpm07:03
thoreauputicFHX: you know you can do ftp with konqueror, right?07:04
FHXthoreauputic: O.O Noes. I didn't know that. Could you teach me?07:04
Shadymanubotu: fine :P07:04
ubotuShadyman: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:04
Shadymanubotu: Yes.07:04
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, shadyman?07:04
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thoreauputicFHX: just type ftp://blah.com  if I remember correctly07:04
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FHXHm..interesting. I'll try that07:05
FHXthoreauputic: Thankee. It works great =)07:06
thoreauputicFHX: :)07:06
Snake__Shadyman:  look07:06
Snake__http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bad9sp.jpg07:06
Snake__my top taskbar gets all messed up07:06
ShadymanSnake__: Loading..07:06
Snake__(excuse the violent cursing in my gfs window lol)07:06
Shadymanhehehehe07:07
ShadymanWhoa07:08
Shadymanwtf's up with your top bar?07:08
Snake__Exactly07:08
Shadymanlooks like the shadows are misplaced.07:08
Snake__Custom background = crappy07:08
Snake__and little lines going across and crap07:08
Snake__It gets worse when I open a program07:08
ShadymanI don't think it's the background.07:08
Snake__No I know its no my backgorund07:08
Snake__im saying it only does that with a custom background07:09
ShadymanTry changing the settings for the bar to maybe a differnet profile?07:09
ShadymanOh.07:09
=== Shadyman boggles.
Snake__lol07:09
Shadymanyou kiss your momma with those lips? :P07:09
Snake__Who me??07:10
Shadymanyeah.07:10
Snake__Thats my gf cursing up a storm07:10
Snake__lol07:10
Snake__Shes singing a korn song :-D07:10
ShadymanI was starting to wonder.07:10
Shadymanlolol07:10
Snake__see that "hh"07:10
Shadyman"I didnt touch you there"07:10
Shadymanlol07:10
Snake__thats me going07:10
Snake__uhhhh07:10
Snake__lol07:10
ShadymanYeah, about 5 minutes before My "Uhhhhhhh"07:10
Shadymanlol07:10
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Snake__lol07:10
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Snake__Man this KDE would be so nice07:13
Snake__if this just worked07:13
Snake__lol07:13
iluminator101hey i am having trouble x server it crashes before i log in07:13
iluminator101can someone help me please07:14
owner989sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:14
Snake__Would if I could >.>07:14
owner989type that07:14
iluminator101i did that07:14
owner989try selecting VESA07:14
iluminator101i have ati xpress 200p07:14
owner989no autodetect monitor07:14
owner989i installed ati drivers with this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358407:15
iluminator101how does that command go bash#VESA no autodetect monitor07:15
owner989no07:15
owner989just type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:15
owner989in konsole07:15
owner989it will bring up a screen07:15
iluminator101i did that it didnt work07:16
owner989what did it say07:16
iluminator101it brought up the screen i went through with it but still i could go to x07:16
iluminator101couldnt07:16
owner989you will prob have to restart07:17
owner989did you select VESA07:17
iluminator101resolution fail07:17
Shadymaneww07:17
Snake__hmm Shadyman I checked the bug reports07:19
Snake__its saying its because of the image07:19
Snake__I guess ill make a new one up and see07:19
ShadymanUhh.07:19
ShadymanSure07:19
ShadymanOne way to findout,right? lol07:19
owner989im using KDE 3.507:19
owner989what about you guys07:19
Snake__3.507:20
Shadymanowner989: Snake is.07:20
Snake__getting angry07:20
Snake__with 3.507:20
Snake__lol07:20
owner989why07:20
ShadymanSnake__: Time to downgrade? LOL07:20
Snake__http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bad9sp.jpg07:20
Snake__Have a look at my top taskbar07:20
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owner989some text issues07:21
Snake__Indeed07:21
Snake__and random mumbo jumbo07:21
Snake__lines and stuff across it07:21
FHXSnake__: That's the background07:21
FHX..you set a background for it07:22
Snake__Yes....07:22
Snake__but if I mouse over it it all works07:22
FHXHm.07:22
Snake__but then if I change what window is up front, it screws up again07:22
FHXThat is kind of weird.07:23
owner989snake see this07:23
owner989http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/629707:23
owner989i have those in my sources.list07:23
Snake__ok...07:23
owner989just making sure you do07:23
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Snake__o.007:23
Snake__what does that do with my background image...07:23
Snake__lol07:23
FHXXD07:24
FHXThey both have text...=P07:24
Snake__lol07:24
owner989actually i noticed text probs in kde 3.507:24
owner989but not exactly the same as you07:24
owner989in directory listings07:24
owner989the text overlaps07:24
Snake__HOLY CRAP.....07:24
Shadyman?07:24
Snake__I Changed the background07:24
Snake__and its like working07:24
ShadymanBroke it, or fixed it?07:24
Snake__LOL07:24
ShadymanOh.07:24
raven#kubuntu-de07:25
ShadymanCongrats :)07:25
Snake__Lol07:25
=== thoreauputic hands raven a /
Snake__Thats crazy07:25
Shadyman!kubuntu-de07:25
ubotuShadyman: I give up, what is it?07:25
thoreauputic..and a j07:25
=== Shadyman hands raven a join
thoreauputicShadyman: right - j or join should work :)07:25
raventhanks :-))07:26
Shadymanthoreauputic: but... what about K? :P07:26
Snake__Shadyman: I can't believe that07:26
Snake__lol07:26
ShadymanSnake__: Nice fix :D07:26
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thoreauputicShadyman: hehe - you mean kde clients need a "k" ? makes sense ;)07:26
ShadymanYeah.07:27
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FHXSnake__: http://www.khxions.com/screenie.jpg07:27
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FHXMy screenie :D07:27
ravenWorks.07:27
thoreauputicraven: you need a / as well as I said :)07:27
Snake__Not bad07:27
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FHX=D I wub Kubuntu07:27
Snake__FHX hold on, when I get mine fixed and working ill show07:27
FHXOkie07:27
Snake__YOU TOOK MY BACKGROUND07:27
FHXXD this is so fun, decorating desktops07:27
Snake__WTF07:27
Snake__lol07:27
FHXDid not >.>07:27
Snake__Did too07:27
FHXIt was default =P07:27
FHXDid not07:27
ShadymanBwahahaha07:28
ravenSorry. I'm a irc newbie...07:28
FHXMore fun than decorating christmas trees...07:28
Snake__N00B!07:28
Snake__er07:28
FHXHaha LOL07:28
Snake__jp07:28
thoreauputicraven: we never would have guessed *grin*07:28
Shadymanraven: Me too, don't worry :)07:28
Shadymanraven: You'll get the hang of it.07:28
=== Shadyman has some serious Windows lag.
=== Snake__ thinks Shadyman should use linux
FHXDoes anyone have any recommendations of stuff i can decorate my desktop with?07:29
=== FHX thinks so too
ShadymanIt's pretty bad when KDE looks 10X better than windows XP, and doesn't have the same kernel bloat, either.07:29
Snake__Agreed07:29
FHX^_^07:29
=== Shadyman thinks Shadyman should use linux too.
Snake__FHX: superkaramba07:29
Snake__or whatever thats called :-D07:29
ShadymanAye Karamba!07:29
FHXSnake__: Yeah I'm using it, but what else can you do with Karamba?07:29
FHXSo far I've done a skin for amarok and the weather thing07:30
Snake__Go to kde-look.org and get some fun stuff07:30
ShadymanFHX: You can get what they call in MacOSX "Widgets"07:30
FHXHaha okie! \07:30
Snake__they have menu bars and stuff you can use07:30
FHXAhhh07:30
Snake__MACCCCC07:30
Shadymanhehehe mac.07:30
=== Snake__ cripples up
Snake__AHHH!HH!!!07:30
FHXHang on, karamba widgets? or kde-look widgets?07:30
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FHXSnake__: You alright over there?07:30
FHX*tosses apple to Snake__ *07:30
Snake__Nope07:30
Shadymanhey, OSX is Unix-based, it's not THAT bad. I still wouldn't use it, but hey07:30
Snake__lol07:30
Snake__OSX!!!07:30
Snake__AHH07:30
Snake__er07:30
Snake__:)07:30
FHXNice bitten apple too07:30
ShadymanFHX: Yeah, someone's got a big mouth07:31
tuntun^_^07:31
Snake__I love RP07:31
FHXShadyman: Heh. Eve.07:31
ShadymanFHX: Heh.07:31
Snake__FHX: I passed my test today07:31
FHX;)07:31
Snake__Yay, now I get motorcycle07:31
FHXSnake__: Gj =)07:31
FHXhaha07:31
FHXsay07:31
ShadymanSnake__: Woo.07:31
FHXmy amarok doens't play music well07:32
FHX=( it cuts in between.07:32
FHXany ideas?07:32
=== Snake__ cough cough XMMS
ShadymanGet some body filler to fill in the gaps?07:32
=== Shadyman snickers.
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FHXOk no seriously. What do I do.07:32
ShadymanMore memory?07:32
crimsunFHX: did you configure it to use 0-second gaps between songs?07:32
FHXcrimsun: Nope..how do I do that?07:33
ShadymanThat's Windows' solution to everything: More memory.07:33
Snake__llol07:33
ShadymanOh look, the kernel's 277MB. Time for MORE MEMORY.07:33
Snake__277??07:33
Snake__Try 51207:33
Snake__:)07:33
owner989or you can use fluxbox shady07:33
ShadymanBwahah07:33
Snake__I love windows dissin07:33
Shadymanowner989: It's ok :)07:33
FHXHow do I clear up my kernel07:33
ShadymanSnake__: Yeah. i had a class this semseter, all it was was windows dissin07:34
crimsunFHX: it's in the preferences of amarok07:34
Snake__Shadyman: what class is that?07:35
FHXwatch it be some mac class07:35
FHXXD07:35
FHXI'll laugh.07:35
Snake__MACCC07:35
ShadymanFHX: No, I'd cry.07:35
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ShadymanFHX: "Operating Systems"07:35
ShadymanFHX: IE. Linux class.07:35
owner989amarok is a nice mp3 player07:35
owner989a bit bloated but07:35
owner989it would be better if amarok could play directly to alsa07:36
owner989without the gstreamer or arts07:36
crimsunit can and does07:36
crimsunyou can use either the xine or gstreamer engine to output to alsa07:36
FHXHang on..how do I clear up my memory?07:36
crimsunI prefer quod libet myself07:37
FHXI'm still raw to Linux07:37
ShadymanThere. Got my kubuntu installed.07:37
ShadymanNo more livecd for me.07:37
FHX=)07:37
ShadymanSwitched back from fedora after switching from ubuntu after switching from fedora, after.. etc.07:37
=== Shadyman likes Kubuntu though.
owner989what do you think is better though shady07:37
ShadymanI've been flipflopping between Ubuntu and Redhat.07:38
Shadymannot redhat.. Fedora07:38
ShadymanUbuntu supports more of my laptop features right out of the box (er, cd?)07:38
Shadymanlike, hotkeys, ACPI, etc.07:38
Snake__kubuntu is god.07:38
Snake__I love it07:38
ShadymanFedora, I have to run with ACPI=noirq07:38
Snake__I would never rid it for anythin07:38
ShadymanI can't use ethernet at the same time as ACPI in fedora. It's like, wtf?07:39
=== Shadyman loves automatic IRQ assignments :P
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Snake__Does anyone but me feel superkaramba doesnt have enough stuff for it?07:40
Snake__its all system moniters...07:40
iluminator101how do i disable auto probe again07:40
ShadymanSnake__: So make some.07:40
Snake__and musiccontrolers07:40
Snake__Dont know how07:40
ShadymanSnake__: Learn.07:40
Shadyman;)07:40
Snake__to lazy:-P07:40
ShadymanSnake__: Then, no whining :P07:41
Snake__Well why cant people be original07:41
Snake__theres atleaast 50000 system moniters on here07:41
Shadymanlol07:41
iluminator101hey owner07:41
iluminator101you there07:41
FHXXD07:41
iluminator101can u message me07:41
FHXHm..Geez.07:42
Snake__Hey heres something orignal07:42
Snake__answers.com widget07:42
Shadymankiller07:42
Snake__not really07:42
Snake__but aw well07:42
Shadymanlol07:43
owner989im here iluminator07:43
FHXHave any of you tried using wine to install something yet?07:43
owner989i have fhx07:43
ShadymanOh whoa.07:43
FHXowner989: What did you install?07:43
ShadymanThis is killer!07:43
owner989IE6 and media player 7 work fine07:43
owner989also counterstrike07:44
Shadymananyone saw the Memory chart in the KInfoCenter?07:44
iluminator101hey owner how does that vesa command go07:44
FHXowner989: Could you teach me how it works?07:44
owner989sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:44
owner989thats the command iluminator07:44
Snake__Hmm not bad Shadyman07:44
iluminator101i did that thats not working07:44
iluminator101the vesa command07:44
owner989you have to select VESA from the list07:44
ShadymanSnake: That's something you'll never get in Windows.07:44
owner989FHX get sidenet or winetools07:45
Snake__actually there is something like that in XP07:45
Snake__lol07:45
Snake__I just forget where it is...but I know its there07:45
ShadymanSnake__: Close, but not quite.07:45
owner989http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html07:45
owner989thats sidenet website07:45
ShadymanSnake__: It's actually in the Task Manager, but it doesn't give you exactly the same stuff07:45
iluminator101hmm...let me try this again07:45
FHXOk Which do you recommend?07:45
Snake__No not that07:45
Snake__Theres something else...07:45
owner989sidenet is a bit easier07:45
Snake__but I cant remeber what07:45
Snake__lol07:45
ShadymanSnake__: I know what you mean.07:46
Snake__Aw well07:46
Snake__Man I say that a lot07:46
ShadymanSnake__: Adminstration Console or something.07:46
Snake__I must really not care07:46
Snake__lol07:46
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ShadymanSnake__: Guess not lol07:46
Snake__OMFG I have been decompressing these07:46
Snake__and they work fine without it07:46
Snake__God I am so DUMB07:46
Shadymanlol07:46
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Snake__lol07:47
Snake__Live and learn eh?07:47
FHXWhy is it asking me to install IE?07:48
FHXI don't want IE07:48
FHXI just want to be able to install other windows programs07:48
FHXWhat should I do?07:48
ShadymanFHX: Kill it.07:48
ShadymanFHX: Stabbity!07:48
FHX*stabs*07:48
Snake__Lol07:48
Snake__FHX: Watch out!! Bills comin for you!07:48
FHXAh ok07:48
FHXi can choose configuration only07:48
FHXBill?07:48
Snake__Bill gates lol07:49
FHXLOL07:49
FHXHAHA07:49
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FHXBills coming. >.>07:49
Snake__Hid your kids!07:49
Snake__hide*07:49
FHXWhat exactly is wine?07:49
ShadymanEw. Bill likes kids??07:49
Shadyman!wine07:49
Snake__more than jackson07:49
Shadymanubotu: tell FHX about wine07:50
Hentai^XP!+wine07:50
ubotuit has been said that wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.07:50
ShadymanHentai^XP: That works too :)07:50
Hentai^XPlol07:50
Snake__oh man superkaraba is so nice when it works right07:50
FHXOk sidenet installed07:50
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FHXI don't understand.07:51
FHXIt put a My computer icon on my desktop, and a mycomputer document07:51
Snake__lol07:52
FHXOh okay07:52
FHXI see that.07:52
Snake__Billum is here!07:52
Snake__:)07:52
FHXHm..but how to install something?07:52
Shadyman!repos07:52
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:52
ShadymanIs it just me, or does /msg ubotu whatever not work?07:53
FHXAh ha!07:53
FHXGot it07:53
Shadymanmeep?07:53
Snake__I hate linux...its so......addicting07:53
FHXuninstall registry key not available yet. What should I do?07:53
ShadymanFHX: Run.07:54
FHX..07:54
FHXCan't open control panel.07:56
Snake__I dont understand why these people try to make linux look like XP or Mac or whatever07:59
Snake__if u want it to look like that...just use the OS07:59
Shadymanomfg.08:00
Shadymani broke Kopete.08:00
FHXLol.08:04
FHXSnake__: Exactly. Like that guy yesterday, remember? XD08:04
FHXHis was like windows nonstop. Crazy goofhead.08:05
ShadymanOh yeah.08:05
Snake__lol08:05
ShadymanFHX: You had him in ehre too?08:05
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FHXHe was like: I want to know what you guys think08:05
Snake__Hentai^XP: That dissin u08:05
ShadymanFHX: I think we sent him here from #ubuntu08:05
Snake__:)08:05
FHXShadyman: Yeah, I still have the link. I put it up on my blog.08:05
FHXhttp://www.khxions.com08:05
FHXBleeding hilarious.08:05
Snake__Shadyman: how did you break kopete?08:05
ShadymanSISENG error 11.08:05
ShadymanI was clicking and dragging a contact into a different folder.08:06
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Shadymanthat's how you break kopete.08:06
ShadymanBut then, I do have 200+ contacts...08:06
Snake__lol08:07
FHXMaybe it's just being rebellious...computers have feelings too. >.>08:09
Snake__Need more WIDGITS08:09
FHXWhat do you have right now??08:09
FHXI can't even find any.08:09
FHXAre they on kde-look?08:09
Snake__I got as system moniter, a weather thingy, a answers.com thing, and im trying to find something for kmail now08:10
FHXgmail?08:10
Snake__kmail08:10
_ravenTake kbiff08:10
Snake__Or I might just go gmail...cuz thats the only email I use08:10
Snake__lol08:10
_ravenHow of you think to be smart in passwd/sudo questions?08:11
_ravenWho#08:11
Snake__Not I said the cat08:11
FHX_raven: What?08:12
_ravenNeed to know why i can use gksu but not kdesu (Error)08:12
SpiroHi, what/where are the locale configuration files? I wish to know how kubuntu set my PC08:13
_raven@spiro /etc08:13
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Spirofile name?08:14
_ravenFor that i'd have to look myself :))08:14
_ravenDid you try linux google yet?08:14
Spiroin Gentoo I have two files: /etc/locales.build and /etc/env.d/02locale  In KUbuntu?08:15
_ravenWhat would you like to do? For every change there's a script or binary.08:15
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SpiroI wish to leanr what kubuntu set for my locale. I wish to see if it implemented UTF-8 and how rather than ISO08:16
SpiroThere should be at least two files that contain these settings08:16
_ravenSorry, don't know that. Are you experienced with gksu/kdesu?08:17
crimsun/etc/locales.gen in Breezy.08:17
crimsunecho $LANG08:17
Spirothanks08:18
_ravenHere are so much people, but no one might help me. :((08:19
_ravenor?08:19
crimsun_raven: what's the issue?08:19
crimsunkdesu works fine on the machines I've tried08:19
_ravenNot if i touched it. :)08:20
crimsunwell then, what did you do?08:20
FHXHey everyone there's a slight feature bugging me. on my menu, if a program is not minimized it doesn't appear on my toolbar at all, only if it's minimized. Is there a way for me to allow it to be there when it is both either maximized or minimized?08:21
Shadymanfhx: Yes.08:21
FHXShadyman: Enlighten me?08:21
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ShadymanFHX: I saw it in the settings here somehwere/08:21
ShadymanRight click on panel, Configure08:21
Shadymango to "Hiding" tab08:21
ShadymanOh wait08:22
_ravenFirst, i installed ubuntu. But i couldn't get used with gnome, so i installed KDE. Eveything was fine, until i deleted my user dir by mistake :((08:22
Shadyman_raven: Ew.08:22
_ravenEw? What?08:22
ShadymanFHX: Click on the "Taskbar" side button, there's an option for "show only minimized windows"08:22
SpiroAnother question: I am trying just to learn how kubuntu configured my PC. In Gentoo I have /etc/conf.d which contains all configuration files. Is there an equivalent in kubuntu? Files I am looking for are like (keymaps, clock, consolefont, hdparm,rc,08:24
_ravenUse "ALT+F2" then "sudo kde-settings"08:25
FHXShadyman: Thanks08:25
_ravenno prob.08:25
ShadymanFHX: Did that fix it? :)08:25
FHXWorked like a charm ;)08:26
ShadymanFHX: Woot.08:26
FHX=)08:26
Spiro_raven, will I then be able to see kde settings or kubuntu settings?08:26
ShadymanFHX: Not bad for having used Kubuntu for 3 hours, eh?08:26
Shadymanhehe08:26
_ravenHow make you this text red?08:26
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FHXShadyman: Yeah =P08:27
Snake__FHX: you herE?08:27
Snake__Yep08:27
Spiro?08:27
Snake__I got my SS hang on08:27
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Shadymanlol08:27
FHXXD Snake__ Nope, i'm there08:27
Snake__lol08:27
FHXlol08:27
FHXJust to keep it going ;)08:27
Snake__http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9076/sweet2qb.jpg08:28
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mrtanookikubuntu seems pretty unimpressive thus far08:28
Snake__like?08:28
_raven@spiro kde. But you can use "base-config" from console08:28
Spiro_raven, I will. What does this to?08:29
_ravenOpens a menu guide with several options to config. You can choose and abort what you want.08:29
Spirogreat. Thanks08:30
mrtanookihttp://www.jesus-is-savior.com/08:30
Shadymanubotu: tell mrtanooki about offtopic08:31
Snake__lololol08:31
_ravenCould someone explain me how i can address text to someone special?08:31
Snake__like ur gf?08:31
Snake__:-D08:31
_raven?08:31
FHX_raven: What, we're not special enough for you?08:31
Snake__you said address text to someone special08:31
FHXyou can just address us here08:31
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Snake__FHX: like mine?08:32
_ravenJust want to know how i can enlighten text in red.08:32
FHXSnake__: Link me?08:32
FHXAH08:32
Snake__FHX: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9076/sweet2qb.jpg08:32
FHXI missed the link up there08:32
FHXgot it08:32
Snake___raven: you just type their name08:32
FHXDamn it's kickass Snake__08:33
Snake__if you want a short cut, type a few letters of their name, and press "tab"08:33
_ravenSnake_ This way?08:33
Snake__You didnt press tab08:33
Snake__and you missed a "_"08:33
_ravenSnake__:  Got it!08:33
Snake__:)08:33
Snake__there ya go, now its red on my screen08:33
Snake__FHX: im still not happy with the widgets tho08:34
_ravenSnake__: Cool.08:34
Snake__the system moniter is so big I can't find anything cool to equal it out with08:34
Snake__lol08:34
Snake__I GOT IT! another system moniter!08:34
Snake__lol08:34
FHXSnake__: Hm. how did you get the center pieces like that though?!08:34
Snake__What do you mean08:34
Snake__at the bottom?08:34
FHXNope, the things dodwn the center08:35
FHXXD08:35
_ravencrimsun: Are you still there?08:35
crimsunnot really, I'm leaving work now08:37
crimsunI'll be back in ~45 mins08:37
_ravencrimsun: ok08:38
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Shadyman!kde3508:39
ubotuShadyman: I give up, what is it?08:39
Shadyman!kde3.508:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php08:40
_ravenIs still someone here to explain me why I can ran gksu in kde, but not kdesu?08:41
_ravenrun08:41
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[ITA] MisterXIT SNOWS! XD09:51
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[ITA] MisterXhem, how can I format a floppy disk?09:58
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hussam[ITA] MisterX: there's a kfloppy uility in kde10:02
hussamutility*10:02
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[ITA] MisterXOk. I'm searching10:04
hussam[ITA] MisterX: sudo apt-get install kdeutils10:07
[ITA] MisterXIt formats /dev/fd0u1440 instead of /dev/fd010:07
hussamI don't know sorry, I rarely use floppy disks. maybe who does can be of better help.10:09
[ITA] MisterXDon't worry: I don't use very often floppy-s too =)10:10
[ITA] MisterXbleah... poor english :(10:11
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hussam[ITA] MisterX: do both /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd0u1440 exist ?10:21
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ravenHi there10:34
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[ITA] MisterXhussa: No, only /dev/fd0 exists but I'm trying to create a nominal link from /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd0u144010:37
[ITA] MisterX*hussam10:37
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[ITA] MisterXhussam: Now it works ;)10:45
yannux_hye :)10:46
[ITA] MisterX# ln fd0 fd0u144010:46
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penguinzdrhi all11:31
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penguinzdrwhat's up?11:32
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_karlhello?11:33
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_karlhi?11:34
thoreauputic_karl: very quiet in here at the moment11:35
thoreauputic_karl: much busier in #ubuntu11:35
_karllooks like it11:35
thoreauputic#kubuntu seems to be like that - it goes in cycles11:35
thoreauputicbut there are only 118 lurkers as opposed to nearly 600 in #ubuntu :)11:36
_karlthis time of day probably doesnt help11:37
thoreauputicwell, that depends what country you live in :)11:37
_karltrue11:38
thoreauputicThu Dec 29 21:38:37 EST 200511:38
penguinzdrlooks like all people are living in the states :(11:38
thoreauputic;-)11:38
_karldo you guys happen to know how to get wireless network going?11:39
penguinzdrThu Dec 29 12:39 EET 200511:39
_karl2 in the godamn morning11:39
_karlpulling my hair out trying to get my wireless working11:39
thoreauputic_karl: west coast North America?11:40
_karlya11:40
_karlcanada11:40
thoreauputicgood guess :)11:40
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penguinzdr_karl:  which city?11:41
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_karlpenticton11:42
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penguinzdrwow those guys on #gentoo are 82811:43
penguinzdron #debian are 60011:44
thoreauputic592 in #ubuntu11:44
_karlis it a competition11:45
thoreauputicwhich is pretty amazing after one year - to be that close to #debian11:45
thoreauputicheh - not a competition, no11:45
thoreauputic:)11:45
thoreauputicbut add #kubuntu to #debian and we are over 700 !11:46
thoreauputicoops11:46
_karlwhy must linux be so hard?11:46
thoreauputicI meant #ubuntu not #debian of course11:46
thoreauputic_karl: it gets easier11:46
thoreauputic_karl: if you are messing with wireless it is hard, yes11:47
FHXWell Ubuntu rocks.11:47
_karli'll believe it when i can use wireless11:47
FHXHeh.11:47
crimsun_karl: which wifi chipset?11:47
FHXHey have any of you tried using wine yet?11:47
crimsunI use wine daily for MAC.exe11:48
FHXI installed sidenet earlier today but not sure how ot install programs11:48
_karlhow do i find the chipset?11:48
crimsun_karl: do you have a "Centrino" logo on your computer?11:48
_karlno, its a dell trumobile 1400, that i know11:48
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crimsunprobably broadcom or atheros, then11:49
_karli used ndiswrapper to install it11:49
_karlits all installed, just cant connect to a network11:49
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_karli can even see networks, but cant connect to them11:50
owner989what kind of networks11:50
_karlwifi11:50
owner989must be passworded11:50
owner989the network key11:50
_karli took off the password11:50
owner989make sure you disabled mac address filter11:51
owner989as well11:51
owner989on router11:51
athlonI installed Firefox 1.5 in ~/firefox. How do I tell KDE to use that Firefox as the default browser ? So if I logged out of KDE while Firefox is running then KDE would start the FF 1.5 when I next log in11:51
_karlno filters11:52
crimsun_karl: can you associate with an open AP?11:52
lucashey. I'm trying to upgrade my kernel to vanilla 2.6.14.  I'm now at a point where I can boot into the new kernel, but the kernel cannot find my NV module. Does anybody know the "right" way to install this module for the kernel?11:52
owner989lucas you will probably have to reinstall the drivers from scratch11:52
crimsunlucas: you mean nvidia.ko, I presume. There is no nv.ko.11:52
owner989thats what i had to do11:52
_karlwhen i do iwlist scan, i see a network11:53
_karlif thats what you mean11:53
owner989thats actually good karl11:53
owner989it means your card is working11:53
owner989do you use ndiswrapper11:53
_karlyes11:53
lucascrimsun: crap, you're right. I have 'nvidia' in my xorg.conf, not nv.    Is nvidia the closed source binary one, or the open one?11:53
crimsunlucas: and yes, unless you're familiar with our l-r-m build infrastructure, it's easier to install build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r) and compile nvidia.ko from Nvidia's driver tarball.11:53
owner989yes crimsun11:53
owner989i know there is a guide for installing ati drivers like that11:54
crimsunlucas: you're confusing the X server glue and the kernel module.11:54
crimsunlucas: 'nv' and 'nvidia' are X server glue ("driver")11:54
crimsunlucas: nvidia.ko is a kernel module11:54
lucascrimson: k, I wasn't aware these weren't referencing kernel modules.11:54
crimsunlucas: 'nvidia' requires nvidia.ko. That's the binary-only Nvidia driver.11:55
lucascrimsun: well, I'm not fermiliar with the l-r-m build infrastructure, but I don't need the easiest way per se. I want to learn to do it "right", for kubuntu.11:55
crimsunlucas: 'nv' is the DSFG-free X server glue.11:55
crimsunlucas: you'll want to use the hints that I provided above, then.11:55
lucascrimsun: thanks for the clarification. so first thing on the list is getting nvidia.ko in my /lib/modules/2.6.14.5..    I'll just install it from the nvidia tarball.11:55
FHXHm..could someone please advise? How do I use wine?11:56
crimsunDFSG-free, rather11:56
crimsunFHX: install it from universe, then execute ``wine foo.exe'' where foo.exe is a Win32 executable11:56
_karlonce i detect a wireless connection, how do i go about connecting to it?11:57
FHXcrimsun: As in install from adept?11:57
crimsunFHX: sure11:57
FHXOk hang on i'll install it11:57
crimsun_karl: the output from ``iwlist'' should confirm that you're associated with an open AP.11:57
crimsun_karl: or ``iwconfig''11:58
_karlit says ESSID:off/any11:58
crimsun_karl: that means it's unassociated11:58
FHXcrimsun: I installed sidenet earlier today, how do I uninstall it?11:58
owner989why didnt you like it fhx11:59
FHXowner989: I don't know how to use it! DX11:59
crimsunFHX: I've never heard of "sidenet"11:59
owner989all it does is create /home/username/c11:59
FHXowner989: When I open control panel a popup error says no applets available11:59
FHXowner989: Hm..how can I uninstall it?11:59
_karlwhen i do iwconfig essid 'name' nothing changes12:00
owner989rm -r /home/username/c12:00
owner989username being your username12:00
crimsun_karl: you need to pass it a wifi iface, too12:00
owner989but12:00
FHXrun that in terminal?12:00
owner989yes12:00
_karlwhats that?12:00
owner989that wont actually uninstall wine however12:00
owner989just the fake c drive sidenet makes12:00
FHXi want to uninstall wine..12:00
crimsun_karl: that's the actual network interface12:00
FHXand that didn't work12:00
owner989oh yes12:00
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owner989sudo rm -r /home/username/c12:01
owner989forgot12:01
FHXHm..still doesn't work12:01
crimsunFHX: you want to /uninstall/ wine?12:01
FHXcrimsun: Nope, just sidenet12:01
FHXi want to install wine12:01
crimsunoh12:01
_karlsorry ya, iwconfig wlan0 essid 'name' does nothing12:01
FHXbecause I have no idea what sidenet did12:01
owner989where are you typing this fhx12:01
crimsun_karl: what does ``dmesg'' tell you about the iface? (don't flood here)12:02
FHXowner989: Terminal12:02
owner989ok12:02
owner989type wincfg12:02
owner989winecfg12:02
FHXyup12:02
FHXit opened wine config12:02
FHXowner989: what does sidenet do?12:03
FHXowner989: Hang on..is this what wine is supposed to look like?12:04
_karl[4299865.540000]  ndiswrapper (add_wep_key:644): adding encryption key 1 failed (C0010015)12:04
_karl[4299874.746000]  ndiswrapper (add_wep_key:644): adding encryption key 1 failed (C0010015)12:04
_karldoes that mean anything?12:05
FHXcrimsun: Okay what do I do after it is installed?12:05
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crimsun_karl: I thought you said you're using an open AP12:07
crimsunFHX: what are you trying to do?12:07
FHXHow do I execute wine foo.exe?12:07
FHXtrying to install a program12:07
FHXusing wine12:07
crimsunFHX: you type it in a Konsole12:07
crimsunwine something.exe12:07
FHXwine theprogramname.exe?12:08
FHXdoes it matter where the location of this program is?12:08
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crimsunFHX: yes, it matters. Provide the full path if it's not in the current directory.12:09
FHXOkay, just checking. Thanks.12:09
owner989FHX maybe you should read the wine userguide12:09
owner989http://www.winehq.com/site/documentation12:09
FHXok12:09
_karl_crimsun i'm not sure what i was supposed to get out of dmesg12:10
crimsun_karl_: you got what you're supposed to12:10
crimsun_karl_: you haven't answered my question about the open AP12:10
_karl_sorry, i had a connection problem, not sure i got it12:11
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_karl_crimsun, does it mean that there is a key?12:15
crimsun< crimsun> _karl: I thought you said you're using an open AP12:15
_karl_i am12:15
crimsun_karl_: it means you've configured it to try and use a key(s)12:15
_karl_how would i get rid of the key12:18
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_karl_i did have a wep key on the AP but then i removed it because it was not working12:18
_karl_i dont see where i have a key now though...12:19
crimsun_karl_: did you put it in /etc/network/interfaces?12:20
_karl_there is no key ther12:21
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_karl_in /etc/network/interfaces it reads: iface wlan0 inet dhcp12:22
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_karl_wireless-essid 'name of ap'12:22
_karl_and then talks about eth012:22
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crimsun_karl_: hmm, ndiswrapper has a configuration file, too; try setting that12:27
hussamHow do I restart the bullet numbering to 1 in OpenOffice?12:28
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MilkteaMy laptop suddenly turns off sometimes when the lid is closed12:52
Milkteaafter a few hours12:52
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duendeis there a dapper support chan?01:01
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yuri_hello, Anyone?01:04
robotgeekhey yuri_01:04
yuri_Sup:)?01:04
robotgeekhmm, ntfs? yuri_01:04
robotgeek!ntfs01:04
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK01:04
yuri_hey how did u know?01:04
FHXwhat's the shortcut for quit? windows+q?01:05
robotgeekyuri_: i'm logged in #ubuntu too, i saw ur question there. i don't read minds :)01:05
yuri_:P01:05
robotgeekFHX: i would guess so01:05
Hobbseehi01:05
robotgeekhey Hobbsee01:05
duendeare there any reported issues with locales in dapper?01:05
Hobbsee:) hey robotgeek01:05
robotgeekduende: i did face something today01:05
MilkteaWhat's a good app to take screenshots of a video file01:05
robotgeekduende: some dpkg error, went away when i removed the package locales01:06
duenderobotgeek: will an updated package just not install with no real reason why01:06
duendeok01:06
Hobbseeduende: i think so, there's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108442 as a sticky, which could be useful01:06
yuri_robotgeek: 10x:)01:06
robotgeekyuri_: np01:07
duendeHobbsee : tnx01:08
Hobbseeduende: also, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978 help?01:08
FHXHm..brb01:08
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MilkteaWhat's a good app to take screenshots of a video file01:20
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xanax`hi01:22
anth0ny_How should I configure my partitions if I would like to multi-boot with Windows/Kubuntu?01:23
anth0ny_Tried with 15GB at the beginning assigned to Windows, but the Kubuntu installer failed to complete01:23
anth0ny_and the Windows-partition was destroyed01:23
MilkteaHow much did you leave for Kubuntu?01:24
anth0ny_50-60 GB01:24
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Milkteao_o01:24
MilkteaHow did you set up the partition table?01:24
Milkteamounted the Kubuntu partition at / (root) right01:24
anth0ny_15GB primary partition for NTFS01:24
anth0ny_10GB / for Kubuntu (also primary)01:25
anth0ny_2,6 GB swap (Primary too)01:25
anth0ny_And 50 GB for /home (Logical partition)01:25
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anth0ny_the debootstrap program exited with an error01:26
anth0ny_That was the error I received01:26
Milkteao_O01:26
MilkteaNo clue, sorry01:26
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anth0ny_okay01:26
Hobbseeyou wouldnt need a 2.6gb swap01:28
xanax`it's too much01:29
Hobbseemine's has only ever used 200mb, at the max01:29
MilkteaDid you check your cd for consistency?01:29
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Hobbseeanth0ny_: what was the error?01:31
dipnlik_hi all. in amaroK, is it possible to edit/disable its auto-scoring?01:32
anth0ny_Milktea: I am about to burn a new ISO01:33
anth0ny_maybe its the DVD that has a problem01:33
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jazwecplease i have a problem with kubuntu..i have one ext3 partiion with 188 gb and 1 swap with 2 gb..now i want to resize that ext3 one to 100gb and install windows on that freespace..how can i do it?01:33
jazwecsomebody told me i have to use live cd of kubuntu..but thats only thing i know01:34
Hobbseejazwec: i'm thinking you'll have to use fdisk, with the live cd, so try man fdisk01:35
jazwechobbsee without loosing data?01:35
Hobbseehope so - but you are repartitioning01:35
[-SiO-] does anyone think setting up ASUS AX700 PRO (grafix card using the ati radion x700 chipset) would be a pain?01:37
Hobbsee[-SiO-] : um, best bet would be to google it, and see what type of results you got01:37
[-SiO-] yah im already on that ;)01:38
anth0ny_Can't remember how many primary partition a disk can contain01:39
anth0ny_anyone?01:39
anth0ny_is it 3 primary and the rest logical?01:39
robotgeekanth0ny_: that's only on windows, i think01:40
Hobbseei think it's 401:40
Hobbseebut dont quote me on that01:41
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anth0ny_Hobbsee: So if I create 3 primary partitions and one logical, then it is okay?01:41
Hobbseei would think so01:41
Hobbseei always stick my swap at the end...01:41
anth0ny_Hobbsee: Well, I actually thought that swap should be primary?01:41
Hobbseenot sure on that one01:42
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anth0ny_In VMware ESX we learned that /boot, / and swap should always be primary01:42
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Hobbseeah ok01:43
anth0ny_Well, I think it was my defective media01:44
anth0ny_seems like my new CD is working much better01:44
anth0ny_I hope that my Windows-partition is still alive somewhere01:44
anth0ny_heh01:44
anth0ny_which version of KDE is bundled with Kubuntu 5.10?01:45
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apokryphosanth0ny_: kde 3.401:46
raphink3.4.3 anth0ny_01:46
apokryphosbut there's a repository with kde 3.501:46
apokryphos!kde 3.501:46
ubotuwell, kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:46
anth0ny_apokryphos: so I should just do dist-upgrade then?01:46
apokryphosanth0ny_: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, enable the new repository, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:47
anth0ny_okay, thankz01:47
anth0ny_thanks01:47
anth0ny_Kubuntu seems like a nice dist01:48
apokryphosit's great01:48
anth0ny_I am used to FreeBSD, but needed VMware GSX support01:48
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anth0ny_VMware does not officially support Ubuntu/Kubuntu but I made it work01:48
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Hobbseenight all...01:49
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mcscruffi have a folder thats set to root privilidges, how can i make it so it isnt.. and also all subfolders and files01:51
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slow-motionhallo01:53
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robotgeekhey slow-motion01:58
slow-motionhi robotgeek01:58
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jazwecplease could anybody help me? when i want to start VLC it says: vlc: error while loading shared libraries: libdvbpsi.so.3: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error02:13
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FHXHey02:35
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hyperactivecrondwww.rzone.com03:10
hyperactivecrondoops03:10
hyperactivecrondwww.rpath.com03:10
hyperactivecrondheh create your own distro in minutes... this should be good03:10
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OS2Machi all... I know I have asked this before but I forgot the answer.03:15
OS2Machow do I set Kubuntu to autodetect my wlan0 card (using ndiswrapper) on boot up.03:15
OS2MacI have done this before but I had to reinstall.03:16
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mth`MAWhi03:20
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SpiroHi, I asked before for a way to be able to read configuration files (files like fstab, rc, clock,locale...) and was adviced to run "base-config" from konsole but nothing works. It does not recognize it as a command. Any help, please?03:27
hyperactivecrondSpiro: run it as root03:28
Spirohot to become root?03:28
hyperactivecrond!tell spiro about rootsudo03:29
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Spirohyperactivecrond, would it then be: "kdesu base-config" what I have to type?03:32
hyperactivecrondSpriro: open up Konsole, type 'sudo base-config' with out the quotes03:32
Spirothks03:33
hyperactivecrondnp03:33
FHXHow do I install an application in wine? do I do it through wine config, then under applications select the .exe file?03:34
hyperactivecrondFHX: download the installer03:34
FHXI have wine installed..03:34
hyperactivecrondthen run command wine nameoffile.exe03:34
hyperactivecrondFHX: the program03:34
FHXah okay. Thanks =)03:34
hyperactivecrondnp fhx03:34
FHXthe program?03:34
FHXhang on..I only have wine config, is that it?03:34
hyperactivecronddo sudo apt-get install wine and tell me what happens03:35
FHXas in wine on my kmenu, then several subbranches including wine config.03:35
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FHXwine is already newest veresion03:35
FHX*version03:35
FHXso I assume it's done.03:35
FHXthat's what terminal said03:35
hyperactivecrondyep03:35
FHXokies ^^ sounds great.03:36
FHXand will the same command work for installing things such as games?03:36
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hyperactivecrondFHX yep03:36
hyperactivecrondbut some games won't...03:36
hyperactivecrond!cedega03:37
ubotufrom memory, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/03:37
hyperactivecrondFHX: ^^03:37
hussamFHX: using this for wine debs? http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/03:37
hyperactivecrondhussam: he apt-get'ed it03:37
hussamfrom http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ ?03:37
hyperactivecrondhussam: sudo apt-get install wine03:38
FHXhyperactivecrond: Thanks ^^ can't wait to try out some games.03:39
hussamhyperactivecrond: I know but the on in wine.sourceforge.net is newer version03:39
FHXhussam: using wine for some idiotic school needed programs..and then..GAMES! =D03:39
hyperactivecrondhussam: debs don't always work with ubuntu03:39
FHX*frowns* hang on..guys..enlighten me. debs =?03:39
hussamhyperactivecrond: these are for breezy:http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/03:40
hyperactivecrondaah ok03:40
hyperactivecrond!deb03:40
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:40
FHXHm..but what is it?03:40
FHXo.o03:40
FHXas in what does a deb file normally do?03:40
hyperactivecrondFHX: a deb is a special type of file that apt-get downloads and installs automagically03:40
hyperactivecrondit's an installation file03:40
FHXHm..I see. but isn't that like all the other files?03:41
FHXsudo apt-get install file?03:41
hyperactivecrondFHX: yes but apt downloads the debs and installs them03:41
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FHXHm..so I would assume debs are more "important"? as in apt-get knows it needs to be auto-installed?03:42
hussamFHX: add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/03:42
covalencephx : think of apt as a search engine to install program easily03:42
hyperactivecrond...03:43
hussamActually, I don't like wine. If you want an win32 program, either use windows or tell the author of the program to port it to linux03:43
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FHXadd that line to my sources list?03:44
hussamyep03:44
FHXadd it where?03:44
hussamat the end in a new line03:45
hyperactivecrondFHX: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:45
FHXok03:45
FHXhyperactivecrond: I bookmarked it =P03:45
hyperactivecrond:)03:45
hussammake that kdesu kedit /etc/apt/source.list03:45
hyperactivecrondd'oh03:45
hussamhe prolly does not have gedit03:45
hyperactivecrondi realized that03:45
hyperactivecrond:P03:45
hussamnether do I lol03:45
hyperactivecrondi 4got we were in #kubuntu03:46
FHXhussam: is that space intentional?03:46
hyperactivecrondFHX: YES03:46
hyperactivecrondor else03:46
hyperactivecrondit won't work03:46
FHXok ok03:46
hussamFHX: yes03:46
FHXhussam: it won't let me type anything in my sources.list03:46
FHX?03:46
hyperactivecrondFHX: did you do kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list?03:47
hussamhyperactivecrond: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3306503:47
hyperactivecrondhussam; it's a button..03:47
FHXok hang on opening terminal now to run that..03:47
hyperactivecrondFHX: easier way: kmenu --> run command03:47
FHXgotit03:48
hussamhyperactivecrond: I was only kidding ( a gnome button on kde-look.org )03:48
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hyperactivecrondlol i get it nvm03:48
FHXthe command doesn't work03:48
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FHXcommand kedit /etc/apt/sources.list was not found03:49
hyperactivecrondah03:49
hussamtry kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/source.list03:49
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hussamsorry kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list03:49
cristianoHi03:49
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hyperactivecrondFHX: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
FHXhyperactivecrond: that seems to work..03:50
FHXit is loading kdesu03:50
cristianothe changes I made in a file stored in my pendrive are not being actually saved... any hint?03:50
hyperactivecrondcristiano: is it mounted? than umounted?03:51
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hyperactivecrondis it set for read-only?03:51
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cristianoI think hotplug does that03:51
FHXok! opened up in kate, line added, and saved. ^^03:51
hyperactivecrondFHX: sudo apt-get update03:52
Zeh_pequenooexit03:52
cristianoThere's nothing on my fstab about it03:52
hyperactivecronddo that in Konsole03:52
FHXyup ^^ updating03:52
hyperactivecrondthen do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade your wine03:53
hussamthen sudo apt-get install wine03:53
hyperactivecrondhussam: dist-upgrade gets a new one03:54
anth0ny_is "Breezy Badger" a new version? Last time I installed 5.10, the name was just Breezy03:55
anth0ny_And the installer was also a little bit different03:55
hyperactivecrondanth0ny_: Breezy == Breezy Badger03:55
anth0ny_Okay03:55
FHXokie done03:55
anth0ny_hyperactivecrond: How do you explain the different installer?03:55
FHXwhat is the command for creating a .exe shortcut in my kmenu editor?03:56
FHXlike for firestarter it was kdesu firestarter03:56
hyperactivecrondanth0ny_: different installer?03:56
hyperactivecrondwhat difference?03:57
anth0ny_hyperactivecrond: My last iso-file didn't ask me if I was using GMT03:57
hyperactivecronddid u do the pre-release? to install?03:57
anth0ny_Don't think so03:58
cristianoi found that "sync" writes to pendrive03:58
hyperactivecrondyou mustve had a pre-release03:58
anth0ny_hyperactivecrond: this is the one I am using now03:59
anth0ny_http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso03:59
anth0ny_Isn't this the newest one?03:59
hyperactivecrondyes03:59
anth0ny_thanks03:59
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anth0ny_Thought I chose EXT3 as the filesystem, but during boot Ubuntu says EXT2FS, does "/" have to be EXT2?04:10
hyperactivecrondanth0ny_: resierfs04:16
hyperactivecrondreiser*04:16
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naliothanth0ny_: it'll come out ext304:18
naliothanth0ny_: ext3 is just ext2 + journaling support (which makes it ext3)04:19
naliothanth0ny_: i wouldnt use reiser unless you know what it does.04:19
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rohananyone know how i can get translucent selection rectangle in kde ? on other distros, its default in kubuntu04:22
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crownhi. does anyone use chinese (asia) input under kda apps?04:33
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Quencherr can someone help me, as i get into kubuntu, all is ok, but then as a open the menu at bottem, screen corrupts alittle and it freezes ?04:33
rohanis it ubuntu breezy, Quench ?04:34
Quenchi think so04:34
rohanQuench: check it.04:35
Quenchhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso04:35
rohanyes, thats breezy.04:36
rohanQuench: which video driver are you using ? nvidia ? qti ?04:36
rohan*ati04:36
Quenchwell04:36
Quenchnvidia04:36
Quenchbut i havnt installed any drivers yet really04:36
Quenchsince i just finished installing] 04:36
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rohanare the md5sum's proper04:37
Quencherr i dont know ?04:37
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Quenchalso, i cant boot into umbuntu when i unplug my cdrom ?04:38
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drakenlol04:40
rohanQuench: can you access the cdrom ? are you on windows currently ?04:40
drakenQuench here04:40
drakeni just got on04:40
drakenseems to not be dying now04:40
drakenerr, wat is password of root at start ?04:41
penguinzdr!rootsudo04:41
uboturootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:41
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penguinzdrdraken: see what says ubotu04:42
LiGhTeNiNI have never tried live-cds before, today was the first time04:42
LiGhTeNiNunfortunately, it didn't end up so good04:42
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LiGhTeNiNI couldnt even start it04:42
LiGhTeNiNMaybe there is a manual out?04:43
LiGhTeNiNI mean, I dont really know how the live-cd works04:43
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LiGhTeNiNI have only used the installation versions before04:44
hunikahello04:44
hunikaraphink:?04:44
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penguinzdrLiGhTeNiN: what exactly is your problem?04:45
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FHXI wub Kubuntu. ^^04:45
penguinzdrwub = ?04:45
FHXhaha love04:45
FHXwub = love04:45
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FHXwub>lub>luv>love04:45
FHXXD04:45
LiGhTeNiNwell, how does it work?04:46
penguinzdrcalc wub = love04:46
FHXpenguinzdr: It just does >.>04:46
FHXlike...magick!04:46
penguinzdrLiGhTeNiN: well, you insert the CD in the CD drive, reboot and linux boots by magic!04:46
FHXMagick! Told you04:46
LiGhTeNiNI boot up, choose the languages and stuff04:47
LiGhTeNiNIt checks hardware, network configuration, loads of stuff in the menu04:47
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SuperLagWe have a slower connection at work, than I do at home.  Is there a way for me to fetch all the update files on my home machine, and burn them to a CD so I can have all the latest stuff when I install Kubuntu on my machine here?04:48
LiGhTeNiNthen I enter the shell?04:48
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FHXcould someone ask ubotu to send me some links that teach me konsole commands and such?04:48
FHXas well as info on gksudo x.x04:48
naliothubotu: tell FHX about cli04:49
naliothubotu: tell FHX about gksudo04:49
naliothubotu: tell FHX about kdesu04:49
FHXThankee muchly. =)04:49
SuperLagWith Gentoo, it's emerge -f <foo> and it will fetch all the tarballs for the packages I want to update...  I'm wondering if there's a way I can get all the .deb files for all of Kubuntu Breezy updates since its release...04:51
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naliothSuperLag: are you running kubuntu now?04:51
SuperLagnalioth: no, SUSE 1004:51
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LiGhTeNiNpenguinzdr: I mean I booted the CD up, followed the menu but I couldnt start Kubuntu04:51
naliothSuperLag: are you going to run kubuntu?04:52
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SuperLagnalioth: yep04:53
penguinzdrLiGhTeNiN: maybe a hardware problem... i dunno04:53
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SuperLagnalioth: and I know I can update from here once I install Kubuntu.  That's obvious. :)04:53
SuperLagnalioth: but the connection here at the office is not all that hot.04:54
naliothSuperLag: packages.ubuntu.com has all the packages04:54
SuperLagnalioth: my connection at home is 8x faster04:54
LiGhTeNiNpenguinzdr: well, but how does it technically work? First you choose languages and stuff, then it checks hardware, then you configure network, then start shell?04:54
SuperLagnalioth: once I have them, does Ubuntu look for them to be in a certain directory when it updates?04:55
naliothSuperLag: so let it update overnight04:55
FHXSay, it just occured to me, if I use wine, is there the possibility of me getting viruses??04:55
penguinzdrLiGhTeNiN:  i dont know many things about live cds, sorry04:55
penguinzdrubotu wub is love04:55
ubotupenguinzdr: okay04:55
FHXo.o therefore I need an antivirus/trojan/spyware for wine?04:55
penguinzdr!wub04:55
FHXpenguinzdr: =P04:55
ubotumethinks wub is love04:55
FHXHaha that's so cute04:55
naliothSuperLag: you'll need to visit debian.org and read the new maintainers guide (click on developers) for how to create a local repository04:55
LiGhTeNiNahh, ok, I just thought it would be fun to check out kubuntu with live-cd04:55
naliothFHX: why are you using wine?04:56
FHXnalioth: School programs..necessary. *winces*04:56
hyperactivecrondubotu: forget wub04:56
ubotuhyperactivecrond: i forgot wub04:56
penguinzdrFHX: i am teaching ubotu slang04:56
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penguinzdrhyperactivecrond: hey!04:56
hyperactivecrondpenguinzdr: ubotu's database is saved on someone else's computer.04:56
FHXpenguinzdr: Hee. Teach it 1337 speak?04:56
hyperactivecronddon't waste spaces04:56
hyperactivecronds/spaces/space04:56
penguinzdrok04:56
hyperactivecrondthat's why there's #debian they've got so much crap on taht bot...04:57
penguinzdrFHX: g00d 1d3404:57
FHXso do I need antivirus stuff?04:57
hyperactivecrondFHX: no04:57
hyperactivecrondunless you have a server running04:57
FHXBut wine runs things like windows, therefore wouldn't there be the chances of contracting viruses and such? o.o04:57
FHXin IE etc.04:57
hyperactivecrondFHX: only in the wine area04:57
hyperactivecrondWine uses a virtual drive04:58
hussamFHX: only if you are running IE on wine04:58
FHXHm...I see. So if anything happens I just uninstall wine?04:58
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FHXor rather should I say, what happens if there's a virus on wine?04:58
hyperactivecrondFHX: yes04:58
hyperactivecrondFHX: it won't kill your linux installation04:58
FHXhyperactivecrond: then when i reinstall the virus will be gone?04:58
hussamno, just 'rm  -.wine'04:58
hyperactivecrondthat works04:58
hussamno, just 'rm  -~/.wine'04:58
hyperactivecrondrm -rf ~/.wine04:58
SuperLagpity you for having to run Wine04:58
FHXwhat does that do? rm -rf ~/.wine?04:59
FHXreinstall?04:59
FHXSuperLag: I agree. Pity. =/04:59
hussamFHX: what programs do you need wine for?04:59
hyperactivecrondReMove Recursively Force everything in your home directory in the folder .wine04:59
FHXhussam: Loggerpro. x.x it's some school thing.04:59
FHXhyperactivecrond: Haha. Sounds like an effective window-cleaner. ;)04:59
hyperactivecrondbasically delete everything in /home/fhx/.wine04:59
hyperactivecrondlol04:59
hyperactivecrondwww.microsuck.com05:00
hyperactivecrondi liked the old name05:00
hyperactivecrondwww.f***microsoft.com (w/o the *s)05:00
FHXHeh.05:00
hyperactivecrond*not to troll tho*05:00
penguinzdrhyperactivecrond: cool05:00
hussamhyperactivecrond: IEsucks.com05:00
FHXAh one more thing, how do Iknow which folders I can delete?05:00
hyperactivecrondFHX: don't delete anything with a . in front of it except if your wine get fuXed up05:01
FHXonce it is installed am I allowed to delete the .tar.gz and all the folders that were extracted?05:01
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hyperactivecrondFHX: yes05:01
FHXHm..okies. ^^05:01
FHXand everything will still work? even if i delete all the folders?05:01
hyperactivecrondwhich folders?05:01
FHXcause my home directory is getting rather cluttered. =P05:01
FHXeasybreezy05:01
FHXearthquake05:02
hyperactivecrondFHX: pastebin.com ... pastebin your ls -l ~ output05:02
FHXbackground05:02
FHXok05:02
hyperactivecrond~ always refers to your home directory05:02
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hyperactivecrond. refers to this dir, .. refers to the dir above. if a file has a . infront of it, like .wine, it's supposed to be hidden05:02
FHXjust ls homedirectory in konsole?05:03
hyperactivecrondyes05:03
hyperactivecrondthen pastebin and i'll tell you what to delete05:03
FHXum..i sorted them into folders hang on05:03
hyperactivecrondFHX: nvm just delete everything except for Desktop05:03
FHXXD okay05:03
FHXbut all my stuff will still work?05:03
hyperactivecrondall your stuff?05:04
FHXlike the weather theme for superkaramba05:04
hyperactivecronddon't delete that then05:04
FHXokay05:04
FHXbut i can delete easy breezy?05:04
hyperactivecrondwtf?05:04
FHXi think i can.05:04
FHXokies.05:04
hyperactivecrondok..?05:04
hussamwhat's easy breezy?05:04
penguinzdrFHX: can i see your desktop, just curious05:04
FHXi'll just not clear my trash. XD then if i find it doesn't work i'll put it back.05:04
FHXpenguinzdr: I just deleted everything. o.o05:05
penguinzdroh my05:05
hyperactivecrondhopefully you didn't delete the desktop folder...05:05
FHXnow I just have some gallery stuff and my c and desktop05:05
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FHXwhat did i do wrong?05:05
FHXHaha and I have knomicons for kopete. *is happy*05:06
FHXdoes Ubotu know what knomicons are?05:06
hyperactivecrond!knomicons05:06
ubotuhyperactivecrond: No idea05:06
penguinzdrFHX: did you maked "sudo rm -rf /" ?05:06
hyperactivecrondpenguinzdr: no05:06
hyperactivecrondthx god05:06
FHXpenguinzdr: Um..no what is that?05:06
FHXdo i run that in konsole?05:06
penguinzdrFHX: i recommend you to not do it05:06
FHXoh. okay05:06
penguinzdrNO NOT RUN IT05:06
hussamFHX: you won't kill the system when you delete stuff dfrom your home dir, just your personal settings and files05:07
hyperactivecrondNO!05:07
FHXok ok i won't. *shuts konsole*05:07
hyperactivecrondEEEEKK05:07
naliothpenguinzdr: why would you even type that out?05:07
hyperactivecrondFHX: you can't by default delete anything that holds your settings b/c they are .files05:07
hyperactivecrondas in .wine, .kde, etc05:07
hyperactivecrondthat's where all the settings are05:07
FHXAh okay, thanks =)05:07
hyperactivecrondand you DONt want to delte that05:07
penguinzdrnalioth: i want to be sure that FHX didnt killed his linux05:07
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hyperactivecrondpenguinzdr: wouldn't his konversation die if he rm -rf'ed everything?05:08
_draken_can someone tell me how to get two network cards bridged ?05:08
naliothpenguinzdr: please don't put that in a public channel again. explain yourself in a PM05:08
slow-motionbbl05:08
naliothhyperactivecrond: nope.05:08
hyperactivecrondthx nalioth05:08
penguinzdrnalioth: ok05:08
hyperactivecrondFHX: www.lowfatlinux.com05:09
hyperactivecrond^^ linux tut05:09
FHXI don't understand. Why is that command dangerous? what does it do?05:09
LiGhTeNiNpenguinzdr: btw, in the shell I tried typing 'startx', nothing happened, you think typing 'startkde' would do any difference?05:09
naliothFHX: it deletes your whole system05:09
hyperactivecrondread "The Nine Deadly Keystrokes"05:09
penguinzdrLiGhTeNiN:  i dont know, i've never tried kubuntu live05:09
FHXnalioth: O.O yikes. then why would someone create that command??05:09
hyperactivecrondFHX: http://www.lowfatlinux.com/linux-meltdown.html05:09
penguinzdri've only tried an ancient knoppix05:09
LiGhTeNiNoh05:09
LiGhTeNiNok05:09
hyperactivecrondFHX: it's just a part of the standerd rm command05:09
hyperactivecrondbut if you run it as root in the / dir, everything dies05:10
FHXhyperactivecrond: okie thanks. I definitely need to read over that stuff.05:10
hyperactivecrondnp FHX , also check www.tldp.org05:10
hyperactivecrondFHX: wiki.ubuntu.com05:11
penguinzdrargh i hate that fan for my graphics card!05:11
hunikaI need a dc++ for my kubuntu05:11
hunikaValknut and Linux Dc++ are not working05:11
hyperactivecrond!dc++05:11
hunikaanybody any opinion05:11
hyperactivecronddc++?05:11
hunikathe windows one is not working05:12
hunikai have wine05:12
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hunikabut when i want to download it crashes05:12
hunikaso05:12
hunika?05:12
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hyperactivecrondhunika: google.05:12
aroxhi !05:12
hyperactivecrondhey arox05:13
hunikaI tried05:13
hyperactivecrondgoogle.com/linux05:13
hyperactivecrondthen search05:13
naliothhunika: there are 2 dc clients in the repos05:13
hunikaValknut and Linux Dc++05:13
hunikaare not working05:13
ecoteqI've just moved from using Fedora Core 4 and now use Kubuntu but need a way of playing mp3 files, can anyone help me out?05:13
hyperactivecrondnalioth: i don't know what dc is.. so that's why i told him to google05:13
hyperactivecrond!tell ecoteq about mp305:13
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aroxhow can i start an application every time i connect to my dsl-provider (ipcheck / dyndns)05:13
bam_is there a "send to" function on right mouse button click?05:14
hyperactivecrondArox: look on dyndns.org for update clients05:14
naliothhyperactivecrond: he asked about a dc++ client, there are 2 in the repos that i know of05:14
ecoteqthanks05:14
hyperactivecrondnalioth: idk what that is :)05:14
hyperactivecrondso i told him to google05:14
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naliothhyperactivecrond: it's a p2p client05:15
hyperactivecrondaah.05:15
nalioth!info dcgui05:15
ubotudcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB05:15
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ecoteqI was able to make fedora to play mp3 and I will with any Linux OS if I can..other than that everythign else will be totally open source but lame mp3 is free so why can't that be used...05:15
naliothubotu: tell ecoteq about mp305:16
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hunikaraphink: Are you here?05:16
terohallo05:16
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_drakencan someone help me, i cant get my root password05:19
_drakenhow do i set it05:19
FHXCan someone tell me the differences between Fedora and Kubuntu? I'm not really sure05:19
FHXas in which would be a better alternative?05:19
jsubl2maybe someday mp3 will be included thanks to fluendo -- http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=102505:19
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penguinzdr!info kdevel05:21
ecoteqfedora and kubuntu are very similar I think05:21
ecoteqjust one uses KDE as default05:21
ecoteqbut I know nothing about the code05:21
ecoteqand Ubuntu uses Debian05:22
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penguinzdrand, uses dpkg05:22
penguinzdrand dpkg is better than rpm05:22
ecoteqright05:22
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penguinzdri think that only SUSE and Mandriva can compete with Kubuntu05:23
penguinzdroh, and Debian05:23
_drakencan someone help me, i cant seem to do any adminisator things ?05:24
penguinzdrubotu: tell _draken about rootsudo05:24
_drakeni want to do them in the gui05:24
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_drakennot command line05:24
penguinzdrubotu: tell _draken about kdesu05:24
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FHXI'm just curious, whenever I log in, what does it say for me in brackets?05:25
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penguinzdrdraken: are you cloning?05:28
penguinzdrbye people05:29
FHXThis is hilarious, kubuntu spellchecks my kopete messages. XD05:29
penguinzdrcya05:29
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penguinzdroh yeah draken_, that's cloning05:30
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draken_pen05:32
hunikahow can i convert an rpm package to deb using alien05:38
hunikaso an example please05:38
hunikahelp me please05:40
bam_err...uhhh05:41
bam_alien /path/to/package.deb05:41
bam_commandline05:42
hunikaccan you give me a whole example05:42
bam_errr...rather terminal05:42
hunikaI am new in Linux :D05:42
bam_just did for example05:42
naliothhunika: what pkg is it?05:42
bam_rpm package in your home05:42
bam_alien /home/[username] /thepackagename.rpm05:43
naliothhunika: what is the name of the pkg? what program/05:44
hunikaok05:44
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bam_are you sure its not in the repositories?05:44
apinskehi @ all05:44
hunikadctc-0.85.5-1mp.i386.rpm05:45
apinskei got a problem with the kio-plugins in konqueror ...05:45
apinskeanyone can help me?05:45
hunikanalioth: dctc-0.85.5-1mp.i386.rpm05:45
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ex`Wasn't it alien -d <package rpm> ?05:46
ex`*looks up what the -d option did*05:46
naliothdctc is what?05:46
hunikadc++ client05:47
naliothhunika: the two clients in the repos didnt work for you?05:47
hunikano they did not work for me05:47
hunikabelieve me05:48
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apinskeany1 got ma prob?05:48
naliothhunika: it's much better to compile your  own software rather than use foreign packages05:48
Spudchathi everyone...im using webalizer to analyze logs from my appache server but everytime its run its says warning: skipping oversized log record05:49
hunikanalioth: but i can not use those two in the repos05:49
hunikathey do not work05:49
Spudchatany ideas on how to fix it or an alternative analyzation program?05:49
nalioththey don't?05:49
hunikanalioth: they don't05:49
apinskehey!  any1 familiar with konqueror?05:50
naliothapinske: what is that? :P05:50
Spudchatapinske: a little..whats the prob?05:50
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apinskeprob is about devices... when i e.g. plug in a usbsick it is mounted in /media/sda1/ but05:51
apinskei cant access it from media:/05:51
apinskethere is a icon in media:/05:51
apinskea click on it says device is already mounted on /media/sda1/05:51
apinskekubuntu 5.10 kde 3.505:52
naliothapinske: that is not a konqueror problem.05:52
apinskeoh sry i guessed05:52
apinskeits bout kio-plugins05:52
SuperLagHow big is the update to KDE 3.5?05:53
apinskethough theres a sloution?05:53
hunikanalioth: just please give me an example using alien05:53
SuperLagSpudchat: logrotate, maybe?05:53
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Spudchathmm allright ill check into that05:54
bam_I think we had the same problem05:55
apinskewill any1 help e pls?05:55
naliothhunika: alien -i /path/to/file05:55
naliothhunika: if you machine breaks.. .. ..05:55
hunikanalioth: thanks05:55
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bam_apinske, you there05:55
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apinskeyep! im here05:55
bam_i think we had the same problem05:55
apinskeoh it was to me sry05:55
apinskeand how did you solve it?05:56
bam_2 windows open up correct?05:56
apinskeon is media:/ and another one asks me what io wnna do05:56
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bam_ok05:56
bam_goto system settings05:56
apinskeyep05:56
bam_storage media05:57
apinskehm05:57
DjDarkmanhy ,i need an easy to use php script ,to manage a mysql database05:57
apinskeand now05:57
bam_medium types select mounted removable medium05:58
bam_hilight do nothing05:58
apinsketoggle as auto?05:58
bam_press button toggle as auto action05:58
bam_yup05:58
apinskeshall i test pluggin in?05:59
bam_sure05:59
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apinskeohohoh05:59
bam_well?05:59
apinskeit doesnt mount it at all... moment pls05:59
apinskemust it be in mtab ot fstab?06:00
hunikado you know a kind of google earth for Linux??????????06:00
bam_I dont thinkso06:00
aroxi have 2 ext3fs partitions, one of them is /. i want to add the space of the non-/ partition to the / partition. how?06:00
bam_goto term and type mount06:00
hunikado you know a kind of google earth for Linux??????????06:00
bam_what do you see06:01
hunikaor can I run google earth on Linux?06:01
aroxbam_: many partitions =P06:01
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bam_hold on arox, helping apinske right now06:02
DjDarkmanhy ,i need an easy to use php script ,to manage a mysql database06:02
bam_arox, you have to move the partition(aka resize), not a quick thing todo, although I hear gparted can do this without losing data06:03
apinskebam???06:07
apinskethe stick is mounted as /media/sda1/06:07
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apinskewhen i go to media:/ there is a removable device but it says it is unmounted06:07
apinskewhen i click to mount it it says it is already mounted on /media/sda106:07
apinskei dont get that stuff06:07
bam_click on open in new window06:08
bam_are you running the applet on your kde-panel06:09
aroxbut how can i resize a partition that is mounted?? "/" is always mounted while linux is running!06:10
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naliotharox: you dont. use a liveCD06:10
aroxno06:10
aroxinstalled it06:10
AoPNo06:11
AoPHe's saying06:11
AoPUse a live CD to resize partitions..06:11
aroxaah ok now i see!06:11
bam_bingo!06:11
aroxah ok thx bye!06:11
apinskebam, now?06:11
bam_are you using the media applet06:12
apinskemedia:/  ?06:12
bam_ahhh06:12
apinskemedia:/sda1 says devices is already mounted to /media/sda106:12
bam_right mouse click on a panel06:12
bam_add applet to panel06:13
apinskeon what?06:13
apinskewhere?06:13
bam_panel, where your pager is and "start" button06:13
apinskeok06:13
apinskewhat to add?06:13
bam_applet06:13
bam_add applet to panel06:13
apinskeim running german system i cant find it06:14
bam_then select the media applet06:14
bam_s/b the same06:14
apinskei have "miniprogramme"06:14
bam_hmmm thats not it06:14
bam_lemme think06:14
apinskewhat should happen ifi click this?06:15
bam_adds an applet06:15
AoPYou head will implode06:15
bam_that may be it06:15
bam_try it06:15
bam_does it pop up a window06:15
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apinskejep06:15
bam_cool06:15
apinskewhat shall i chose?06:16
bam_look for an applet called media applet06:16
abionnnnis it just me or does the kubuntu 5.0 CD come without gcc >_<06:16
apinske"storage media"06:16
bam_bingo06:16
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bam_select it and click add to menu06:16
apinskejep06:16
apinskebut these are the same icons i goz on my dekstop06:17
bam_dont worry bout that yet06:17
apinskeok06:17
bam_plug in your media06:17
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apinskeok06:17
apinskethere is a symbol now06:17
bam_did a window pop up?06:18
apinskeremovable media unmounted06:18
apinskeno06:18
bam_hmmm06:18
bam_click on the applet06:18
apinskea menu pops up06:18
bam_what does it say?06:18
apinskeopen in new windows mount open with06:19
bam_try open in new window06:19
apinskemtab says xdev/sda1 is mounted to media/sda06:20
apinskeor sth like that06:20
apinskefreely translated06:20
bam_hmmm...06:20
bam_try safely remove06:21
apinskehm06:21
apinskenow its away06:21
bam_ok, re-plugin06:21
bam_tell me what its doing06:21
apinskeputting the symbol there again06:22
apinskeno windows06:22
bam_ok, good06:22
bam_click on the applet06:22
apinskeopen in new windows tells menothiong06:22
apinskeshows empty folder06:22
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bam_is the media empty?06:22
apinskeno06:22
bam_hmmmm06:23
bam_click on the applet does it say safely remove or mount?06:23
apinskemount says the saim as before06:23
apinskeboth06:23
CyberMadhow do i know where complete installation file that already copied to the system by apt-get install freeradius ? *besides command: whereis freeradius*06:23
bam_damn, thats all I know06:23
apinskeits a pity06:23
apinskeno1 can help me with that...06:23
apinskethy although06:24
apinskethx06:24
naliothCyberMad: in  konsole, type "dpkg -L freeradius"06:24
bam_I know there is a usb subsystem that handle all that stuff but I dnt have alot of experience with it06:24
apinskeok06:24
apinskei cann access the usbstick06:24
CyberMadthanks06:24
apinskethats not theprob06:24
bam_have you searched the forums?06:24
apinskejep06:24
bam_posted too?06:25
apinskebut it apears in media:/ and does not work06:25
apinskeno06:25
bam_post it the forums are really friendly06:25
apinskeok06:25
apinskeill do so06:25
FHXHAHA.06:25
FHXI was talking to this guy on Kopete, and i said: What's it called..the one that affects your applications..ram?06:25
FHXhim>>Sheep!06:25
FHXme: O.O No06:26
FHXhim>>OH. RAM06:26
apinskebtw itsthe same prob with cd-drive06:26
FHXXD okay. *shuts up*06:26
naliothFHX: remember #kubuntu-offtopic exists06:26
FHXOkies. Apologies.06:27
apinskeso i guessit is nothing to dowith usbstuff06:27
apinskei dont understand those kio-plugins06:27
apinskeduno how they work06:27
apinskeif theres anyone with a solution06:29
apinskecontact me icq26481245006:29
apinskethx06:29
apinskebye06:29
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endo602morning06:41
endo602if i want to dual boot with kubuntu and XP06:41
endo602and i want to access something from my XP partition while using linux06:41
endo602what protocol will allow me to do that06:42
naliothext2fs06:43
naliothno wait, that's from windows to linux06:43
naliothubotu: tell endo602 about ntfs06:43
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endo602so i can use ext2fs in windows to get from linux partition and ntfs for linux from windows?06:48
endo602ok sounds cool06:49
endo602im redoing my system tonight06:49
endo602I got some new hdds06:49
naliothendo602: read the info ubotu sent you06:49
endo602so i decided to got with dual06:49
endo602i did06:49
endo602i know how to mount partitions06:49
endo602also in samba06:49
endo602right?06:50
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_nano_!ubdatedb06:57
ubotu_nano_: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:57
nalioth_nano_: ?06:58
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_nano_nalioth: whenever i bootup my laptop, this updatedb process runs and makes the computer really slow06:59
_nano_nalioth: is that process really essential? can i turn it off?06:59
nalioth_nano_: it is very important. and it is also why i never turn my computers off07:00
_nano_nalioth: but for laptops...it's not possible to keep them runnin always07:00
naliothupdatedb runs every morning between 2 and 4 am, i suggest you enable your screen to power down and leave your lappy running07:00
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naliothmy ibook hasnt been turned off in weeks, lemme get you an uptime from it07:01
_nano_nalioth: ok07:01
aabot@ubuntu:~$ uptime07:01
aabot 11:54:21 up 35 days, 18:27,  2 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.0707:01
naliothall my boxen turn off their displays after a few minutes07:02
_nano_nalioth: wow :P07:02
AoPHow many you have nalioth  o.o07:02
naliothAoP: obviously more than 107:02
AoPNo kidding :P07:02
AoPMaybe an exact number =)07:02
_nano_nalioth: but that means you use your laptops more like a desktop? you don't carry them along?07:02
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nalioth_nano_: i have more than one laptop07:03
_nano_nalioth: aah ok07:03
naliothAoP: are you keeping track? :007:03
AoPYa07:03
AoPI need to know how many I need to look for when I type ./breakintonaliothshousesoicanstealallhisstuff/owned07:04
_nano_lol07:04
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naliothAoP: if only you knew.. .. ..07:04
AoPMy computer isnt useing the swap memory =\07:06
_dickI did an upgrade in update manager to 3.5. Everything seems to work except kmail will not open. Error message is "Cannot load part for Mail. libkleopatra.so.1 cannot open shared object file. No such file or directory. How to get file and install.07:06
nalioth_dick: in  konsole, type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kmail"07:07
AoPnalioth: what will my ram % have to be for my swap memory to kick in?07:07
naliothAoP: ummm %100?07:08
AoPoh07:08
_dicknalioth Thank you\07:08
AoPSo it's gotta be totally maxed out07:08
AoPSo its not broken ^.^ thats good :P07:08
naliothAoP: i've got 2.5gb of ram on this machine and have never gone into swap07:08
AoPI've got like 960mb07:08
AoPGimme ram plsh =\07:08
AoPIm so clsoe only 35,000 kb of memory left =o07:09
endo602is it recommended if i run a dual OS to partition pretty much everything for windows07:10
endo602then mount ntfs for linux?07:10
naliothendo602: no 1. letting windows write to your linux partition is like juggling a hand grenade with a loose pin07:11
AoPOoo fun07:11
endo602i understand07:11
naliothendo602: better to give windows a nice 5gb partition for itself and give linux a nice 7gb partition, and then make a fat32 partition to share07:11
endo602you think07:12
endo602fat32 cant hold large files07:12
DaSkreechhuh?07:13
endo602like over 4gb07:13
DaSkreechRight07:13
DaSkreechThere is a way to get Windows to see etx2 partions07:13
endo602so why would i make a fat32 share?07:13
DaSkreechGimmie a second07:13
endo602ok07:13
endo602what would be better07:13
endo602linux seeing ntfs or windows dealing with etx2?07:14
naliothendo602: correct07:14
naliothendo602: i havent used windows (or owned a windows system) since 200007:14
DaSkreechI would wager getting Windows to see ext207:14
nalioth<hint>07:14
endo602hehe07:14
endo602im not that proficient in linux yet07:14
DaSkreechSince It is documented down to the Byte while NTFS is a blind shot07:15
bhnaDaSkreech: http://www.quintessenz.org/cgi-bin/index?funktion=about07:15
naliothendo602: then give windows 5gb, and linux 5gb, and make the rest a seperate ext3 partition07:15
naliothendo602: that way you dont run the risk of windows takin a dump with your linux files07:15
bhnaDaSkreech: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html07:15
endo602ok07:15
endo602that sounds good07:15
DaSkreechbhna: Thats it :)07:15
endo602then i use ext2 to access that partition in windows?07:16
naliothendo602: search sourceforge.net for 'ext2fs'07:16
kkathmanmornin nalioth :)07:16
naliothendo602: you shouldn't have to run windows. everything you need is available in linux07:16
naliothkkathman: howdy, mind the anti-windows invective07:17
endo602yeah except my wife will kill me07:17
kkathmanwell I dont agree 100% but for most average folks I'd say that mostly true07:17
endo602thanks for your input07:17
endo602i gotta run07:17
kkathmanas long as you stay out of the multimedia arena07:17
endo602all the best07:17
endo602i appreciate it07:18
DaSkreechkkathman: And games07:18
DaSkreechendo602: Yall come back you hear?07:18
kkathmanperhaps games also, tho Im not a gamer...except on game stations07:18
bhnaDaSkreech: sorry wrong link http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm07:18
kkathmanthe GIMP masquerades as a multimedia giant, and even for most people it works ok to do very minor things, but for audio/sound/video/graphics, windows and Mac are far superior07:19
DaSkreechI do't know about far07:19
kkathmanbut I run my business on Linux, except for those things07:19
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gersthi07:20
kkathmannalioth: I am not a pro-Windows advocate..I just believe in using the right tool for the right job :)07:21
gerstanyone knows how can I connect to irc server with bitchx through a proxy server?07:21
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kkathmangerst: I dunno about the bitchx, but most IRC clients will allow a proxy server07:21
gersti`ve tried konversation.. there is no such option there either07:22
gerstthere is in xchat I know07:22
gerstbut I dont really like xchat07:22
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naliothgerst: you'll need to export your proxy info in your .bashrc07:23
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gerstthx07:23
gerstlet see07:23
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gerstjust export proxy:port ?07:24
gerstno...07:24
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kkathmanmaybe Im thinking of XChat07:25
kkathmangerst: Sorry I was thinking of what I use...KVirc :)07:26
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gerstaha.. no problemo :)07:26
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naliothgerst: ask uncle google "export proxy .bashrc"07:27
gerstexport http_proxy=http://proxy ortnum/07:28
gerst:)07:28
slow-motionre07:28
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jeremywhitinghi all, I've just switched from ubuntu gnome to kubuntu and am looking for chinese input application07:31
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jeremywhitingI used scim in gnome, but it doesn't work in Konsole, etc07:33
jeremywhitingstill works in gnome-terminal however...07:33
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ccc_anyone else having problems with the kweather panel applet? the configuration windows is all blank here.07:36
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leafwwhat program will let me see a divx in kubuntu ?07:46
naliothleafw: w32codecs, most likely07:47
leafwin kubuntu-ppc ?07:47
kkathman!w32codecs07:47
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:47
leafwsounds x86 binaries to me07:47
leafwbut thants.07:47
naliothleafw: ah, you need to ask with more info.07:48
leafwsorry :)07:48
naliothleafw: if you asked that at first, i could have told you you were out of luck07:48
leafwcan't believe there's no divx player that can't be compiled from scratch.07:49
naliothleafw: there are, but they are mighty old07:50
nalioththe opendivx boys got lazy and folded up07:50
leafwbad news07:50
crimsunerr, what about mplayer* w/ libxvidcore4 in Dapper?07:51
leafwDApper is after breezy?07:51
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crimsunDapper's the current development version07:52
leafwhum07:52
leafwI'll wait till it's release stage then.07:52
leafwbut god to know.07:52
crimsuntry a Dapper Flight 2 live cd07:52
leafwthat's a good idea07:52
pussfellerwhat kinda collation should I use for a mysql db...07:53
pussfellertheres like a gazillion choices in phpmyadmin07:53
pussfellerit defaults to swedish, but that dont sound right07:54
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leafwpussfeller: it is. The encoding kindda works for all western world languages.07:56
apacheloggerfd07:56
pussfellerok leafw thanks, i wasnt sure07:56
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_nano_how do i change the window manager of kde?08:03
nalioth_nano_: what do you want it to be?08:04
_nano_nalioth: something really light weight08:05
nalioth_nano_: what are you calling "window manager"08:05
crimsunkwin is pretty light08:05
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simonehi everybody!08:07
simoneI need some help in mounting an external hard drive with 2 partitions... anybody listening?08:07
_nano_crimsun: is there a way to change that, just to play around and see08:08
naliothsimone: don't ask to ask08:08
crimsun_nano_: yes, but I don't know the procedure offhand08:09
simonenalioth: i don't get it... can you explain? (not english mother tongue :-)08:09
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naliothsimone: just ask your question.08:09
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simoneah ok :-)08:09
simoneI have an external drive with one ext3 and one fat32, both primary08:10
bam_anyone know how to enable or add a right mouse button click(send to) functionality to kde desktop?08:10
simonebut i can't mount them in kubuntu... i don't exactly know how to mount them08:10
simonein /etc/stab08:10
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naliothsimone: what language do you speak?08:11
simoneitalian08:11
naliothsimone: try #kubuntu-it or #ubuntu-it08:11
mac__is it possible to configure the font used by "adept", the package manager?  It doesn't seem to respect System Settings->Appearance->Fonts settings...08:11
simonenalioth... did you understand my question ?08:11
pussfellerdoesnt kubuntu auto mount them when you stick it in the usb thing?08:12
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nalioth!it08:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:12
pussfellermaybe it only does taht for the one partition drives08:12
simoneubotu, I'm fine speaking in english08:12
ubotusimone: I haven't a clue08:12
simonethey don't automount at start08:12
simoneI suppose I have to add something in /etc/fstab08:12
naliothsimone: i don't know much about this.08:12
bam_then you need to edit /etc/fstab08:13
pussfellerdo they show up on yer desktop?08:13
simonebam_ : can you explain me how to edit it well ?08:13
pussfellerussualy it makes an icon and you need to right click and select mount08:13
simonepuss: yes, they show, unmounted08:13
simonewhen I try to mount them , they don't...08:14
pussfellerah08:15
bam_http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-ctsystem.en.html <--better off reading this...08:15
pussfelleryeah but these are usb drives08:15
simoneexactly puss... thanx anyway bam_ :-)08:15
pussfellerand the dev point will be some complicated long ass name08:15
simoneyep08:16
pussfellerand change too08:16
pussfelleri would search the wiki and the forum, you cant be ther first person this is a need fo08:16
simonethere was a tool to automatically detect usb drives...08:16
pussfellerfor08:16
simonegood point pussfeller08:16
pussfelleror keep asking here, someone will know08:16
simonethanx everybody, i'll try to look at ubuntuforums08:17
bam_oh usb drive, thats handled by the usb subsystem, its complex, and I have had time to read it yet08:17
bam_btw, to edit fstb you can type kdesu kedit /etc/fstab08:18
bam_just an fyi08:18
hyperactivecronddoes dcgui support gnutella?08:18
naliothhyperactivecrond: it does not.08:19
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thebestciao a tutti08:26
naliothhowdy08:26
thebestho appena installato kubuntu08:26
nalioth!it08:26
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:26
thebestok grazie e scusate08:27
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jaheirewhat does ctrl alt f5 do?08:39
jaheiredoest it bring you to another terminal ?08:40
noirequusjaheire: correct08:40
jaheireis that terminal different that the bash shell ?08:40
noirequusnope.08:40
jaheiredoes it have a different purpose, why is it there?08:41
bipolarI've got a keyboard with media controls on it. whats the best way to get them to control amarok?08:42
noirequusjaheire: it's there to save your butt.08:42
noirequusjaheire: all multiuser systems (which linux is) have multive console to log in from08:43
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jaheireto save my butt?08:45
jaheireheh08:45
jaheiregive me an example if you want :)08:45
jaheireim interested08:45
noirequusjaheire: if your X goes bad, you have 6 consoles to log in on08:46
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jaheireah ok08:46
D1-does anyone know if theres a way for kubuntu not to adopt gnome's menu system and vice versa?08:46
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LiGhTeNiNI got kubuntu live-cd working now...almost08:49
LiGhTeNiNIt starts showing whats it loading, at first its fine but then errors start appearing (something like buffer I/O error connecting to hdc) then the screen goes black and at the top of the screen there are colors08:50
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LiGhTeNiNthat should have been kde, after a few seconds it throws me into console08:51
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LiGhTeNiNI write startx but still, black screen with colors on top and throwing me to console08:51
gerardocbwhat device is your cdrom?08:51
LiGhTeNiN:(08:51
LiGhTeNiNhmm I dont know08:51
gerardocbwell... it sounds like if your cdrom (if it's hdc) is damaged08:52
LiGhTeNiNcant be08:52
gerardocbI don't know if your cdrom drive or cdrom disk08:52
xwolf-i can't connect to the internet08:52
LiGhTeNiNwell, I might try with another drive but its connected to slave so I cant boot with that08:53
xwolf-my adsl modem responds to ping, but i can't go google.com.br08:53
xwolf-perhaps dns problem, can anyone help me?08:53
gerardocbtry pinging 216.239.59.10408:54
xwolf-when i add a dns server, it says i have to add an alias first (but it includes it in the list)08:54
xwolf-so what should i do? i already configured my ip address and gateway08:55
gerardocbwhat happens if you ping 216.239.59.104?08:55
xwolf-here in windows, it responds...08:56
LiGhTeNiNthe error is 'Buffer I/O error on device hdc' and then some number08:56
gerardocbummm...08:56
gerardocbof course...08:56
gerardocbit could be useful if you ping on kubuntu08:56
LiGhTeNiNgo under linux and try there08:56
xwolf-will do08:56
xwolf-the dns server i put is working (but i forgot to ping it LOL)08:57
gerardocbLiGhTeNiN, is seems the disk is damaged...08:57
xwolf-after adding this dns, anything else to be done?08:57
gerardocbtry ping to google.com.br, and then 216.239.59.10408:58
LiGhTeNiNhm, I sincerely doubt it's a verbatim RW disc, I just used it some time ago and everything was fine08:58
gerardocbSo, the drive could be bad, or the IDE bus08:58
xwolf-google cant be found when i ping it. but i'll do as you say08:58
xwolf-be back soon08:58
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LarryLoungeLizarHey there, I feel like a giant idiot, but i just can't find freevo or mythtv anywhere in kubuntu using adept, could anyone point me off the road less travelled :) thanks09:02
LiGhTeNiNLarry (y)09:03
LiGhTeNiN;)09:03
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LiGhTeNiNtoo much nerve-racking with this09:10
AnotherDatai just installed kubuntu 5.10 how do i upgrade to kde 3.5?09:10
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LarryLoungeLizarKDE 3.5: see http://tinyurl.com/dlrf909:11
AnotherDatawhat do i do next tho09:12
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voicuare there any repositories with the latest (k)ubuntu packages? i can't install kde 3.5 because it's dependant on some package versions that are older in the repositoires. it would be a very ugly job to install all those packages by hand. someone please give me a hint or something09:17
AnotherDataback to slackware for me09:18
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voicui actually tried to install some of those packages and made a total mess with the dependencies (i had to reinstall almost everything) so i reinstalled kubuntu09:20
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fangorioushow do I customize the list of search engines in the search toolbar plugin's drop-down menu?09:20
Riddell-awafangorious: tvo should know09:22
voicudoes anyone here use kde3.5?09:22
voicu(on (k)ubuntu)09:23
tvofangorious: go to settings ->configure konqueror, choose webshortcuts, put a checkmark in front of each engine you want in that list09:24
LarryLoungeLizarAnotherData, are you still there?09:24
fangorioustvo: they don't have checkboxes09:25
mac__ah, I figured out what my problem is... since "adept" runs under "kdesu", it never checks my .fonts.conf or KDE settings, but instead uses root's, hence why I was unable to affect the fonts in adept...09:25
tvofangorious: argh, then your still using KDE 3.4 I guess, 3.5 has09:25
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mac__is there some clean way of "keeping" my account's settings for fonts/kde/gnome when I run stuff under kdesu?09:25
fangorioustvo: yeah, that's what comes with breezy09:25
tvofangorious: unless you go hacking in the config files or update to 3.5 you won't be able to change that list...09:26
tvo:(09:26
fangoriouslame09:26
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fangorioushow do I configure global keyboard shortcuts? especially to configure the media keys on my keyboard.09:28
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fangoriousah, found them under accessibility09:29
Snake__Alright guys. I got a 266 mhz PC with 64mb RAM that I want to set up as a server09:30
Snake__What interface?09:30
Snake__What GUI**09:31
LarryLoungeLizarHey there, I feel like a giant idiot, but i just can't find freevo or mythtv anywhere in kubuntu using adept, could anyone point me off the road less travelled :) thanks09:31
Snake__And is it hard to set up linux to share to windows09:31
fangoriousSnake__: maybe xfce, or a blackbox/fluxbox type wm09:31
Snake__I was thinkin fluxbox09:31
Snake__Would anyone in here be a networking guru?09:32
fangoriousSnake__: depends on if you hand edit the smb.conf, or use swat, or one of the GUI samba config tools for gnome or kde (not sure if xfce or *box have their own)09:32
fangoriousSnake__: you might consider going to #ubuntu for general questions like that, i think this channel is supposed to be for kde related questions specifically09:33
Snake__Okay09:33
LarryLoungeLizarsnake_, what do you hope to use the pc for? just as a share for some other pc's?09:34
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LarryLoungeLizar(ie what other functionality do you require?)09:34
gnomefreakanyone running kubuntu-dapper?09:34
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fangoriousok, I just changed the global shortcuts to use <ctrl>-[<shift>] -<tab> for cycling through tabs, and nothing is picking it up (konqueror, konsole, konversation)09:37
fangoriousit looks like at least konversation and konqueror have the same set of default shortcuts configured as what the default global one was. Why have the same shortcut configured in so many places if one of them is supposed to be a global source?09:38
jaheirecan anyone help me, my knoqueror loads webpages extremely slow :(09:39
xwolf-when i click administrator mode in kubuntu, it just asks the password, i type it but nothing changes after the load up, why is that?09:41
gnomefreakis kubuntu-dapper using 3.5?09:44
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amjaheire: erm... any more info ?09:49
amjaheire: have you tried running it from cli to see if it gives any error message09:50
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jaheireno i havent09:51
jaheirehow do i do that?09:51
jaheiretype konqueror ?09:51
amjaheire: yep. open a console09:51
amand type konqueror09:51
jaheirek09:52
jaheireno error message, it opened up ok09:52
amjaheire: so no slowness ?09:53
jaheireyes09:53
jaheireit took a minute for google to load09:53
jaheirejust now09:54
jaheireits like dialup or something09:54
amhmm any other apps take a long time ?09:54
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jaheirenah firefox is fast09:54
amwhat about other kde apps ?09:54
jaheirehmm09:54
jaheiredont think so really09:54
jaheirenot that i can think of09:55
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GNAMwhat's gksudo in kubuntu?09:57
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GNAMkdesu.09:57
amjaheire: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76518.html10:01
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neoncodeIf I have other accounts on my computer. How do I make it so that only mine can read from my home folder?10:12
kkathmanneoncode: chown/chmod10:14
kkathmanor use groups10:14
neoncodekkathman: How?10:14
kkathmanbut10:14
jsubl2neoncode: open a konsole window and type chmod 700 ~10:14
kkathmanneoncode: man chown  and man chmod10:14
kkathmanhowever, by default, other accounts "shouldnt" be able to access your directory10:15
kkathmanunless they are root or have sudo privs10:15
kkathmanjsubl2: funny how alot of people dont want to look in the man pages :)10:18
jsubl2kkathman: newusers have to learn that skill.10:19
kkathmanyah10:19
kkathmanpermissions, owners, groups take some time to learn10:19
jsubl2i should have pointed him to the man page like you did..10:19
kkathmanlol nah...your answer was correct also, for about 80% of the cases we'd see here :)10:20
kkathmanbut the chown command can be handy too10:21
kkathmancuz that changes the owner/group10:21
kkathmanbut typically most newbs are only gonna have their own account and root10:21
jsubl2yeah here everyone has their own computer10:22
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kkathmangood day LeeJunFan :)10:24
LeeJunFansup.10:24
kkathmanhow are you sir?10:24
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triodehelp: i removed the sytem tray from the task bar. How do I bring it back?10:52
apokryphostriode: kde 3.5?10:52
triodeyes10:52
apokryphosright-click > add applet to panel10:53
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triodegreat! thanks! :)10:53
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triodeI have another issue: there is one program that is apparently scheduled to run exactly every 60 seconds. How can I find out what program it is? in the KDE System Guard Process table I can just see the list 'jump'10:54
triodeand I wouldn't care, except for that's the only thing giving me Xruns in Qjack audio10:56
triodethe Xrun log shows one Xrun exactly (I mean even with mSeconds) every minute, the taskbar also blinks for an instant showing another icon that just flashes too briefly to know what it is(which is why i accidentally turned the system tray off)10:57
triodecan I view a detailed log of all the activity in a given time frame?10:58
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triodeor, where can I go to find out about that?11:00
St-hello, kubuntu dvd (dapper) contain gnome ?11:01
apokryphosnope11:01
St-only kde ?11:02
apokryphosyup11:02
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apokryphosthe dvd is a live+install11:02
St-and for gnome and kde ? how i do ?11:02
apokryphosdownload kubuntu, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:02
apokryphos(after you have everything set up, of course)11:02
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St-ok tnx11:03
St-kubuntu current is + update than fligh-2 ?11:07
St-kubuntu (dapper)11:07
St-apachelogger, ?11:07
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apacheloggerSt-: eh?11:08
apacheloggerah?11:08
apacheloggeruh?11:08
apacheloggersup?11:08
St-nope11:08
apacheloggerok ;-)11:09
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bam_nobody knows about how to get right mouse button click send to capability?11:27
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NeonLeveli just installed the kubuntu 5.10 and when i try to play an mp3 file it gives me something like "there were no decoders found" using adept can i get one?11:57
naliothubotu: tell NeonLevel about mp311:58
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NeonLevelthanks nalioth11:59
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leafwhow can one prevent sudo -i from cding to the root home dir ?11:59
leafwwhat option in the user home .bashrc ?12:00
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