| tseng | file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html < ugh, yellow is back | 12:07 |
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| \sh | hmm..new upstream... | 12:09 |
| crimsun | I may as well jog to Mexico while k3d compiles | 12:15 |
| \sh | grmpf | 12:17 |
| \sh | kforth new upstream, doesn't like the libreadline5 | 12:17 |
| crimsun | punch it! ;) | 12:19 |
| \sh | well...new upstream likes gcc4 but doesn't like libreadline5 I'm fcked | 12:19 |
| \sh | old 1.2.6 doesn't like gcc4 at all :) | 12:20 |
| whiprush | hi \sh | 12:20 |
| \sh | moins whiprush | 12:20 |
| whiprush | thanks for the gajim upload! :) | 12:20 |
| \sh | whiprush: my pleasure :) it was christmas time :) | 12:23 |
| raphink | rsynch through ssh doesn't keep owners and perms :( | 12:23 |
| raphink | well owners I mean :( | 12:23 |
| \sh | raphink: what about -p ? | 12:23 |
| \sh | raphink: -p preserve permissions | 12:24 |
| raphink | doesnt' work | 12:24 |
| \sh | and -o (only root) | 12:24 |
| raphink | nor -o | 12:24 |
| raphink | for owners ;) | 12:24 |
| raphink | it works great in local | 12:24 |
| raphink | but not through ssh | 12:24 |
| \sh | raphink: well... | 12:24 |
| raphink | :( | 12:24 |
| raphink | yes | 12:24 |
| raphink | actually it's -o I'd need | 12:25 |
| raphink | since it's the owners that are not kept | 12:25 |
| \sh | raphink: tar -cv <path> | ssh | 12:25 |
| raphink | hmm | 12:25 |
| \sh | raphink: tar -cpv <path> | ssh | 12:25 |
| raphink | even as root, -o doesnt preserve the owners through ssh | 12:25 |
| crimsun | http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2005-August/013203.html | 12:25 |
| raphink | everything is written with the current user as the owner | 12:26 |
| raphink | I wrote my whole tool with rsync and ssh | 12:26 |
| raphink | so I'm not to use tar instead ;) | 12:26 |
| raphink | too late ;) | 12:26 |
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| raphink | hmm | 12:27 |
| raphink | the pb is that I didn't want to use root on the remote side | 12:27 |
| raphink | because that would imply using a RSA key to connect from root@1 to root@2 without a passwd | 12:27 |
| raphink | which doesn't seem very secure | 12:27 |
| raphink | but I guess this will still be the best thing to do | 12:28 |
| raphink | it seems | 12:28 |
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| raphink | hehe | 12:38 |
| raphink | :) | 12:38 |
| raphink | thanks crimsun | 12:38 |
| raphink | :) | 12:38 |
| raphink | that was the way to go :) | 12:38 |
| crimsun | cool | 12:38 |
| sistpoty | raphink: I'm not quite sure, what you want to do... but you can't change file ownerships as non-root | 12:38 |
| scotth_ | raphink, try cpio, something like cpio -o -v --format=newc | ssh root@host "cpio -i --format=newc" thats what I always use | 12:39 |
| raphink | that's not what I want to do sistpoty | 12:39 |
| raphink | I'll try that later on | 12:39 |
| raphink | so far I've got a system that works great | 12:39 |
| raphink | spent 2 days making it | 12:39 |
| raphink | so I'm pretty happy :) | 12:39 |
| raphink | 2 scripts on the server side, called by 1 script on the client side | 12:39 |
| raphink | ssh/rsa and nfs as ro to browse the archives | 12:40 |
| raphink | :) | 12:40 |
| raphink | works like a charm :) | 12:40 |
| raphink | and its fast | 12:40 |
| raphink | maybe just a bit complicate | 12:40 |
| raphink | hehe ;) | 12:40 |
| crimsun | hey not bad, only an hour and a half to build k3d on amd64 | 12:43 |
| raphink | :) | 12:43 |
| StevenK | crimsun: I claim xtalk. Mine! | 12:44 |
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| crimsun | StevenK: I uploaded that a while ago | 12:45 |
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| crimsun | you can have the remaining merges, though :) | 12:45 |
| \sh | good night folks :) | 12:46 |
| \sh | have fun with the rest of the merges :) | 12:46 |
| crimsun | 'night \sh | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | gn8 \sh | 12:47 |
| sistpoty | can s.o. with non-i386 help me with mythtv? | 12:51 |
| crimsun | I have an amd64 pbuilder, but that's the extent of it. What do you need? | 12:51 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: it horribly fails on everything but i386, and I guess it might be fixed if the configure was called w.o. i386-specific options | 12:52 |
| crimsun | ok, tell me where to start | 12:53 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: mom | 12:53 |
| crimsun | k | 12:53 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: I'm just checking if the sourcepackage hit the archives yet | 12:53 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: grab 0.18.1-5ubuntu1 from mythtv | 12:54 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: and then look at debian/rules, where configure is called | 12:54 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: hopefully taking out the line "--cpu=i486 --tune=pentium4 --enable-mmx " will do the trick | 12:54 |
| sistpoty | (otherwise it will ftbfs very soon, at least according to the build-logs) | 12:55 |
| slomo | oh mythtv -5 has _SO_ many problem | 12:55 |
| slomo | s | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | hi slomo | 12:55 |
| slomo | hi sistpoty :) | 12:55 |
| slomo | you have a ghc6 bugreport by lamont himself ;) | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | slomo: I have? where? | 12:56 |
| slomo | many lines above... sorry, i'm a bit drunken currently ;) it is uninstallable currently he said | 12:56 |
| sistpoty | d'oh | 12:57 |
| slomo | un-uninstallable | 12:57 |
| StevenK | Oh, blah. instanbul has different tarballs between Debian and Ubuntu. | 12:57 |
| sistpoty | slomo: what's worse is that it ftbfs currently due to a makefile-problem (make will just sit and run forever) :( | 12:58 |
| slomo | sistpoty: for mythtv i'm doing that bugreport tomorrow... it was filed by a friend of mine :) i have to meet my expectations ;) | 12:58 |
| slomo | hmm... another ftbfs because of new make= | 12:58 |
| slomo | ? | 12:58 |
| sistpoty | slomo: actually I just wanted to do the stdc++-allocator change... but I'm more than happy if you can take this from me ;) | 12:59 |
| sistpoty | slomo: maybe... but I haven't investigated it any further yet | 12:59 |
| slomo | i take mythtv happily... i don't know _what_ i take there but i will solve it.. :P | 12:59 |
| sistpoty | hehe :) | 12:59 |
| slomo | and if it's another failure like the mono one where the buildds are to blame ;) | 01:00 |
| raphink | pfiew | 01:02 |
| raphink | got it :) | 01:02 |
| slomo | ok... so i take mythtv and you take ghc6 :P if you solve it faster than me you owe me a beer, otherwise the other way around ;) | 01:02 |
| tseng | does anyone know when colony 3 is | 01:02 |
| tseng | or whatever the hell they are called now | 01:02 |
| tseng | flight | 01:02 |
| slomo | flight 3 is 2 weeks in the future afaik | 01:02 |
| sistpoty | slomo: ok, deal ;) | 01:02 |
| tseng | that sucks | 01:03 |
| tseng | because flight 2 is useless on my laptop | 01:03 |
| slomo | haha | 01:03 |
| slomo | dito :) | 01:03 |
| slomo | ppc that is | 01:03 |
| slomo | sistpoty: i think we have to meet then soon :P the mono ftbfs is definitely harder :) | 01:04 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 01:04 |
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| slomo | hmm... what's with our "uncommon" programming languages team? :) let's get this ready for dapper :) | 01:07 |
| sistpoty | slomo: i want to get fpc back into dapper... I already had a brief chat w. infinity about it :)= | 01:09 |
| slomo | fpc? | 01:10 |
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| sistpoty | free pascal compiler | 01:10 |
| slomo | my major goal is sml and nemerle :) they're _THE_ languages :) | 01:10 |
| slomo | hmmmm | 01:10 |
| slomo | someone talked to me about it... | 01:11 |
| sistpoty | I happened to find the project lazarus... looks very promising | 01:11 |
| slomo | what's broken there? | 01:11 |
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| sistpoty | with lazarus or with fpc? | 01:11 |
| slomo | both | 01:11 |
| sistpoty | fpc simply needs bootstrapping... but this should be going smoothly: take debian package and bootstrap w. it | 01:12 |
| sistpoty | lazarus is not yet packaged :) | 01:12 |
| sistpoty | slomo: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Screenshots&file=index | 01:12 |
| crimsun | hmm. | 01:12 |
| slomo | lazarus is cool... only because of the name :) | 01:12 |
| crimsun | we have gpc, but fp-compiler would be nice. | 01:13 |
| slomo | crimsun: aaah... i have a mythtv bugreport for you ;P | 01:13 |
| crimsun | slomo: you mean sistpoty ;) | 01:13 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: we soon will have fpc back ;) | 01:13 |
| crimsun | sistpoty: oh? rock! | 01:13 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: yes... infinity promised to help... after christmas :) | 01:14 |
| slomo | crimsun: no :P you're the mythtv guy ;) get 6175 :P i don't like to touch it because it's mdz' package | 01:15 |
| sistpoty | slomo: I still didn't find any complaints for ghc6 in the logs... | 01:15 |
| slomo | siretart: *sigh* i'll search for it :) | 01:15 |
| sistpoty | thx slomo | 01:15 |
| crimsun | slomo: yep, I'm test-building on amd64 atm | 01:16 |
| crimsun | so far so good... | 01:16 |
| slomo | sistpoty: Dez 28 16:56:19 <lamont> dear motus, ghc6 fails to uninstall properly. fix that pls. | 01:16 |
| slomo | crimsun: np :) you should definitely join the motumedia forces ;) | 01:17 |
| sistpoty | slomo: thx | 01:17 |
| slomo | np :) | 01:18 |
| crimsun | it's actually not mdz's anymore according to http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/163269 | 01:22 |
| crimsun | though we should definitely coordinate w/ whatever those guys are doing in svn | 01:22 |
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| slomo | crimsun: i guess they're as insane as the mplayer and xine guys ;) as the dvd jon is :P | 01:23 |
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| crimsun | sigh, silly coffee shop wifi ;) | 01:27 |
| slomo | *shrug* :) | 01:28 |
| crimsun | sistpoty: mythtv builds successfully on amd64 with that line removed from configure | 01:28 |
| crimsun | I'd say that's a good start | 01:28 |
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| crimsun | uhh | 01:28 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: thx | 01:28 |
| sistpoty | slomo: do you want to take mythtv or should I do an upload with that fix? | 01:29 |
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| slomo | and it builds on ppc with that line removed btw ;) | 01:29 |
| slomo | take it if you want... we're a team :P | 01:29 |
| sistpoty | slomo: k... then I'll fix the FTBFS and you'll go for your bugs ;) | 01:30 |
| sistpoty | slomo: or do you want to do with that in one upload? | 01:30 |
| slomo | no, just take it :) i have xine-lib and a bunch of other problems right now | 01:31 |
| sistpoty | ok | 01:31 |
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| slomo | gn8 | 01:57 |
| jsgotangco | night slomo | 01:57 |
| sistpoty | gn8 slomo | 01:58 |
| crimsun | 'night slomo | 01:59 |
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| raphink | hi ogra_ibook | 02:05 |
| raphink | :) | 02:05 |
| ogra_ibook | hi | 02:05 |
| raphink | how are you? | 02:05 |
| ogra_ibook | fine ... busy playing with powerpc netbooting | 02:09 |
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| raphink | :) | 02:09 |
| raphink | hi zakame | 02:09 |
| zakame | hi raphink :) | 02:10 |
| raphink | ogra_ibook: do you have some time to give me your opinion on a backup tool I just hacked? | 02:10 |
| raphink | or zakame maybe :) | 02:10 |
| zakame | what backup tool? Just got up this morning ;) | 02:11 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:11 |
| raphink | http://raphink.free.fr/debs/backup_0.1.tar.gz | 02:11 |
| raphink | it's all fresh | 02:11 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:11 |
| zakame | w00t | 02:13 |
| zakame | waah lighttpd got packaged now in debian | 02:13 |
| raphink | :) | 02:14 |
| raphink | did you have a look the script zakame ? | 02:15 |
| zakame | not yet | 02:16 |
| raphink | oki | 02:16 |
| raphink | :) | 02:16 |
| zakame | lemme check | 02:16 |
| raphink | :) | 02:16 |
| === raphink spent two days hacking and studying to get to write this script | ||
| raphink | not sure it was worth it the 2 days, but i'm pretty happy with the result :) | 02:17 |
| === seth_k|lappy has spent the last two days redesigning his company's website | ||
| seth_k|lappy | and same for me, not sure if it was worth 2 days, but happy ;) | 02:17 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:19 |
| raphink | :) | 02:19 |
| raphink | happy hackers :) | 02:19 |
| === zakame spent the last 2 days making sure the sync merges are really just syncs | ||
| raphink | zakame: do you also think that was not worth 2 days but you're happy? | 02:19 |
| zakame | raphink: I'm always happy :) | 02:20 |
| raphink | :) | 02:20 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:20 |
| raphink | did you see narnia already zakame ? | 02:20 |
| zakame | not yet, it hasn't reached the local cinema, though I think it's already up in Manila | 02:20 |
| raphink | ok | 02:21 |
| raphink | :) | 02:21 |
| raphink | I was afraid to be deceived | 02:21 |
| zakame | w00t cool backup script | 02:21 |
| raphink | and i'm far from being any near to deceived | 02:21 |
| raphink | zakame: :) | 02:21 |
| raphink | do you think it's cool enough to be released ? | 02:22 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:22 |
| zakame | let me test it on the parish net, then we'll see ;) | 02:27 |
| raphink | sure :) | 02:29 |
| raphink | it's a bit hard to set up properly I reckon | 02:29 |
| raphink | you have to set up NFS, RSA keys, crontab manually | 02:29 |
| raphink | and you need a separate backup partition on the server | 02:29 |
| raphink | if I find time for that and find it useful, I might work on automatizing these parts a bit | 02:29 |
| raphink | or at least documenting them better | 02:30 |
| raphink | at least the backup scripts work and are fast | 02:30 |
| zakame | oooh | 02:30 |
| raphink | what? | 02:30 |
| zakame | I'll keep those in mind (and in log ;) | 02:30 |
| raphink | ok | 02:31 |
| raphink | I was thinking about writing an article on the wiki | 02:31 |
| raphink | about that | 02:31 |
| raphink | providing the scripts and explaining how to set a nice backup server on a network with them | 02:31 |
| raphink | won't do that tonight though, cause it's 2:30 AM | 02:31 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:31 |
| zakame | whoa | 02:32 |
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| raphink | zakame: what? | 02:33 |
| zakame | raphink: early morning on your end ;) | 02:34 |
| raphink | yes indeed | 02:34 |
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| zakame | wb sistpoty | 02:41 |
| sistpoty | re zakame | 02:41 |
| raphink | hi sistpoty | 02:42 |
| sistpoty | hi raphink | 02:42 |
| zakame | w00t! only 7 pkg unassigned for merge! tho 223 are now assigned :) | 02:52 |
| zakame | hm the links to ongoing-merge are also 404s now | 02:53 |
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| zakame | except for linux-kernel-di it seems | 02:54 |
| sistpoty | zakame: if mom couldn't find a common base-version, you get 404's (you can see it in the log file) | 02:55 |
| raphink | good night | 02:55 |
| zakame | good night rajasun | 02:55 |
| zakame | er raphink | 02:55 |
| sistpoty | zakame: and then there still may be some false positives, though I tried to clean up the list, thx to \sh | 02:55 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:55 |
| zakame | sistpoty: ah | 02:55 |
| raphink | <>< :) | 02:55 |
| sistpoty | gn8 raphink | 02:55 |
| zakame | raphink: amen :) | 02:56 |
| raphink | :) | 02:56 |
| zakame | gtg too, I'll take wxglade with me ;) | 02:58 |
| sistpoty | have fun w. it ;) | 02:58 |
| zakame | hoohoo :D | 02:58 |
| slomo | crimsun: no need to merge nss-msdn and liferea... they're on top of my todo list :) | 02:59 |
| crimsun | slomo: d'oh, I uploaded liferea a few minutes ago | 02:59 |
| slomo | ok, np then :) | 03:00 |
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| crimsun | slomo: and nss-msdn I marked as a sync | 03:00 |
| crimsun | -mdns | 03:00 |
| slomo | yes, it is a sync ;) | 03:00 |
| slomo | *shrug* nevermind :) | 03:01 |
| sistpoty | gna... mythtv, upload #3 due to copy/paste error from me... I'm no hero today :( | 03:02 |
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| crimsun | hey don't feel bad, it took me 6 tries with vlc for Breezy | 03:02 |
| tseng | Amaranth: ill hold the punching bag | 03:02 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: few... then I'll have 3 more to go ;) | 03:02 |
| crimsun | ;) | 03:03 |
| tseng | so how do you get locales installed on clean flight2 again? | 03:03 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: still there? iterm (0.5-5ubuntu1, from your debdiff) FTBFS :/ | 03:04 |
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| sistpoty | StevenK: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6292 | 03:05 |
| slomo_ | crimsun: you should've use to experimental version from liferea... much less to change ;) | 03:05 |
| slomo_ | hmm... bbl | 03:05 |
| crimsun | slomo_: I did | 03:06 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: looks like two lines should be commented out instead of only one | 03:06 |
| Amaranth | tseng: ? | 03:09 |
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| StevenK | sistpoty: However, i386, amd64, hppa, powerpc and sparc all built. Only ia64 failed. | 03:13 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: is it uploaded already? | 03:13 |
| StevenK | iterm 0.5-5ubuntu1 was uploaded a while ago. | 03:14 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: ah, k... then I don't need to look on this ;) | 03:14 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: but still it's strange that it now ftbfs (on my i386 pbuilder) | 03:15 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: maybe this is some new feature of make :) | 03:15 |
| StevenK | sistpoty: It could be the new make. Lemee try to build -5ubuntu1 and -5ubuntu2 | 03:15 |
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| Amaranth | iTerm? | 03:16 |
| StevenK | Internationalized terminal | 03:17 |
| StevenK | From the Japanese alternate free software dimension. | 03:17 |
| StevenK | sistpoty: Reproducible. | 03:20 |
| chillywilly | is bind9 on the breezy install CD? | 03:20 |
| chillywilly | apt tells me it cannot find it | 03:20 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: ah, k | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | chillywilly: on the server cd? | 03:21 |
| StevenK | sistpoty: I've just made a quick patch to debian/rules. I'll see if it builds first. | 03:22 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: ok | 03:22 |
| chillywilly | Amaranth: the install CD | 03:22 |
| Amaranth | chillywilly: afaik it's only on the server install cd | 03:22 |
| chillywilly | oh? | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | didn't know there was a difference | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | what does it actually do when you choose server then? | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | just install hte base and install the rest from the net? | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | the* | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | doesn't install it at all? | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | installs the least amount of software possible | 03:23 |
| chillywilly | so it's just not there | 03:24 |
| chillywilly | great... | 03:24 |
| chillywilly | :) | 03:24 |
| Amaranth | the server cd does too, but it also includes stuff on the cd for servers | 03:24 |
| tseng | Amaranth: that guy in #g-h is driving me nuts | 03:24 |
| chillywilly | don't have a server CD though :( | 03:24 |
| chillywilly | breezy had server cds? | 03:24 |
| chillywilly | or is this "new" | 03:24 |
| Amaranth | not really new | 03:25 |
| Amaranth | new as in breezy was the first release to have them | 03:25 |
| tseng | for reference, installing a language pack fixes locales | 03:25 |
| tseng | on a new flight 2 install | 03:25 |
| tseng | + dist-upgrade | 03:25 |
| StevenK | sistpoty: Okay, that corrects the FTBFS. Would you like a debdiff between -5ubuntu1 and -5ubuntu2? | 03:27 |
| tseng | or maybe it doesnt.. | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: would be nice | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: then you'll get the credits ;) | 03:27 |
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| StevenK | sistpoty: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/iterm_0.5-5ubuntu2.debdiff | 03:28 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: thx | 03:29 |
| sistpoty | StevenK: uploaded | 03:31 |
| StevenK | sistpoty: Thanks. | 03:31 |
| sistpoty | np | 03:31 |
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| sistpoty | gn8 everybody | 03:36 |
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| chillywilly | where are the server CDs? | 04:59 |
| chillywilly | nevermind, found 'em | 05:02 |
| chillywilly | are these available via ship-it? | 05:03 |
| chillywilly | (looks like launchpad is down atm) | 05:04 |
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| scotth_ | chillywilly, I don't think there are "server" cds, I think what you looking for is to type "server" at the boot prompt of any regular cd | 06:29 |
| crimsun | there are. | 06:44 |
| crimsun | http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-December/000047.html | 06:44 |
| chillywilly | http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/breezy/ | 06:51 |
| chillywilly | there too :) | 06:51 |
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| crimsun | moins ogra | 08:07 |
| crimsun | d'oh | 08:08 |
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| zakame | wb ogra_ | 08:43 |
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| zakame | hi womble :) | 09:03 |
| womble | Hi zakame | 09:04 |
| womble | siretart: ping | 09:04 |
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| zakame | have the following pkgs been requested for sync already?: module-assisstant, xfce4-fsguard-plugin, albatross, kvdr, lablgl, libapache-mod-musicindex, octave2.1, orbit2cpp, pngwriter, positron? | 09:19 |
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| minghua | zakame: octave2.1 probably haven't been yet | 09:30 |
| minghua | zakame: if you can review and ask the sync, I'll appreciate it | 09:31 |
| zakame | minghua: just did, 'tis a sync alright, I was asking earlier if anyone else made sync requests already, I don't want to annoy elmo when he comes back ;) | 09:32 |
| minghua | elmo should have a web inteface for his IRC away log :-P | 09:33 |
| minghua | zakame: thanks! | 09:33 |
| zakame | no prob :) | 09:34 |
| Mez | womble, is it a REVU thing ? | 09:34 |
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| zakame | bbl, have a nice day all :) | 09:35 |
| Mez | *pokes* | 09:37 |
| Mez | anyone around? | 09:37 |
| FireRabbit | ? | 09:37 |
| FireRabbit | oops, sorry :) | 09:37 |
| Mez | wondering why this cdbs package isnt building | 09:38 |
| Mez | well | 09:38 |
| Mez | not configuring | 09:38 |
| sivang | morning al | 09:40 |
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| Mez | sivang - any idea why this package is being a b**tch ? | 09:44 |
| Mez | it's using cdbs - but doesnt use ./configure | 09:44 |
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| sivang | Mez: which package is that? | 09:59 |
| Mez | Simias :D | 10:00 |
| Mez | I've left cdbs behind | 10:00 |
| Mez | back to good old dh :D | 10:00 |
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| sivang | that's will alwasy work :) | 10:00 |
| sivang | cdbs is evil | 10:00 |
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| womble | Mez: Yes | 10:07 |
| Mez | womble: sup - I can probably help | 10:07 |
| womble | Mez: RCS for the revu code | 10:07 |
| womble | Does it exist? | 10:08 |
| Mez | erm - not publically accessible | 10:08 |
| womble | I want to see if it's doable to deploy for debian-mentors | 10:08 |
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| womble | Any chance of getting at it, or do I just sit down and reimplement it? | 10:10 |
| siretart | womble: pong | 10:19 |
| womble | Hey siretart, check scrollback between Mez and I | 10:20 |
| womble | Just wondering if I can get access to the REVU source code to setup a similar service for debian-mentors | 10:20 |
| siretart | womble: sure, the svn should be ro for the public | 10:21 |
| siretart | womble: you mean the old revu1 codebase, no? | 10:21 |
| womble | siretart: Not sure what the difference between the two is. At the moment, the features in the currently deployed revu are quite handy enough | 10:22 |
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| siretart | womble: well, the latter is a not yet functional reimplementation of the first, since the first is rather a proof of concept and to investigate our workflow in real life. I didn't imagine that team that it will become that useful | 10:23 |
| siretart | the url for checkout is this http://tiber.tauware.de/svn/revu1 | 10:24 |
| siretart | but there seems to be some permissions foo on the server, I'm investigating it | 10:24 |
| womble | siretart: Yeah, I'm getting PROPFIND errors | 10:25 |
| siretart | womble: pardon, my bad, this url should work for you: http://tiber.tauware.de/svn/revu | 10:25 |
| womble | And lo! there was a checkout | 10:26 |
| womble | Thanks | 10:26 |
| siretart | I'm rather using svn+ssh:// on that machine, so I didn't check svn checkout some time ago | 10:26 |
| siretart | womble: you will definitly need help to set it up, because the documentation is not existant. feel free to ask me | 10:26 |
| siretart | womble: I'm happy to help you to setup it | 10:27 |
| womble | What's the rewrite involving at this stage? (I'll definitely ask for help in setup shortly) | 10:27 |
| womble | I dunno about non-existent documentation; that README file is a lot longer than several I've seen <grin> | 10:27 |
| siretart | pretty much everything. try to compare with this: http://tiber.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/ | 10:28 |
| womble | Another happy trac user. I'm hearing lots of good things about it. | 10:28 |
| siretart | womble: ;) - yeah, there is some. but for a project at this size, I'd expect some more, espc. how to use it | 10:28 |
| siretart | yeah, trac is awesome. I tried it and was astonished how easy it is to setup | 10:29 |
| womble | It's in my "stuff to look at" queue | 10:29 |
| womble | Surprisingly, it looks like it'll fit almost exactly with the workflow of a project I lead | 10:30 |
| Mez | weirdness | 10:31 |
| siretart | it requires a svn repo (preferably on the same machine for file:/// access). the database itself is a sqlite instance. most of trac can be configured via webinterface, some options are only avaiable via cli. | 10:31 |
| siretart | huhu Mez | 10:31 |
| Mez | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 22: continued value line not in field | 10:31 |
| Mez | oh | 10:32 |
| Mez | control | 10:32 |
| Mez | I was looking in rules :d | 10:32 |
| siretart | :) | 10:32 |
| minghua | as they said, a bear doll helps in debugging :-) | 10:32 |
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| Mez | still no idea what it means | 10:33 |
| minghua | Mez: an extra newline? | 10:33 |
| Mez | space dot | 10:34 |
| Mez | not space space | 10:34 |
| Mez | gah | 10:34 |
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| siretart | wooho. new wine :) | 10:42 |
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| Yagisan | re: | 12:44 |
| Yagisan | siretart: I've had another idea on how to get i386 debs going on amd64 without sucking down source @ build time | 12:45 |
| Yagisan | if I can get apt-get update to not choke on md5sum mistatches, I'll see if it works | 12:45 |
| Yagisan | s/mistatches/mismatches | 12:46 |
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| Yagisan | siretart: ping | 01:08 |
| siretart | Yagisan: pong | 01:10 |
| Yagisan | siretart: Do you have a local dapper i386 mirror ? | 01:12 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I have an apt-cacher, and 2mbit downstream | 01:13 |
| Yagisan | siretart: ok - do you mind if I dcc you a "dehydrated" ia32-libs-universe package a bit later, with brief instructions on how to "rehydrate", and the stick it on revu for me ? | 01:15 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I'd prefer email, but yes, no problem | 01:15 |
| siretart | Yagisan: if you tell me on irc, you can even ftp it to tiber, and I'll catch it manually from the incoming queue | 01:16 |
| Yagisan | siretart: well, "dehydrated" is 3k, "rehydrated" is ~14MB | 01:17 |
| minghua | Hmm, seems ia32-libs-universe really has a lot of water in it :-) | 01:18 |
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| siretart | Yagisan: I think I understand what you want :) | 01:18 |
| siretart | Yagisan: no problem, pass it over to me, and perhaps compare the md5 sums | 01:19 |
| Yagisan | siretart: thanks. I can send it now actually - you'd rather catch it at revu ? | 01:20 |
| siretart | please ftp it (without changes file) | 01:20 |
| siretart | that way it is already on the right host, I can sign that remotely | 01:20 |
| Yagisan | siretart: I've just ftp'ed it to you | 01:24 |
| Yagisan | siretart: after extracting the source, open sources.list.txt and point it at your local cache | 01:25 |
| siretart | just a sek | 01:25 |
| Yagisan | siretart: then just run fetch-and-build, then repack the source. All done :) | 01:26 |
| Yagisan | siretart: thank you very much. That package while currently sdl only is a good start. | 01:26 |
| siretart | I'm running it on tiber agains archive.ubuntu.com | 01:27 |
| Yagisan | siretart: best to point it at your cache, it grabs more then is strictly needed, and filters the rest | 01:28 |
| siretart | Yagisan: -rw-r--r-- 1 siretart siretart 14838930 Dec 29 07:28 ia32-libs-universe_1.0ubuntu1.tar.gz | 01:31 |
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| siretart | Yagisan: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1329 | 01:33 |
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| siretart | Yagisan: please check if the result is what you expected | 01:35 |
| Yagisan | siretart: thank you. the extract directory here http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/ia32-libs-universe-0512290731/ia32-libs-universe-1.0ubuntu1/pkgs/ isn't showing the .debs | 01:37 |
| Yagisan | siretart: srcs is fine however | 01:37 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I did exactly what you told me | 01:38 |
| Yagisan | siretart: strange - when I build a local copy I have .debs in it | 01:43 |
| Yagisan | siretart: -rw-r--r-- 1 jamie jamie 14959851 2005-12-29 12:44 ia32-libs-universe_1.0ubuntu1.tar.gz | 01:43 |
| Yagisan | siretart: but that is pointed at breezy (which I have cacged) | 01:44 |
| Yagisan | s/cacged/cached | 01:44 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I think it is okay for you to upload further packages with instructions how to rehydrate the package | 01:44 |
| Yagisan | siretart: thank you. | 01:45 |
| Yagisan | siretart: your apache server, is it configured to not display .debs ? | 01:46 |
| siretart | Yagisan: I'll check | 01:49 |
| siretart | Yagisan: you are right, the .debs are indeed there, but 'just' not displayer | 01:50 |
| siretart | displayed | 01:51 |
| Yagisan | siretart: ok - thats ok. the package as is is fine. Good idea not to display the .debs anyway | 01:52 |
| Yagisan | siretart: feel free to enjoy some non-chrooted quake4 :) | 01:52 |
| siretart | :) | 01:53 |
| siretart | In the current state, I think 'ia32-libs-sdl' would be a better name | 01:53 |
| Yagisan | siretart: I know, but it is only that way, as I haven't tried to get non-sdl apps going | 01:54 |
| siretart | thank you for working on this! | 01:54 |
| Yagisan | siretart: main targets at the moment are sdl, and wine. Then whatever other useful libs that are needed | 01:54 |
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| Yagisan | siretart: your welcome. I have lots of motivation. I want the damm thing to work | 01:56 |
| matgates | Hello. What's the proedure for submitting .debs for ubuntu? Anyone have a howto link handy? | 01:56 |
| Yagisan | matgates: which debs ? | 01:57 |
| matgates | Well, I'd like to update the stellarium package, it's quite out of date. I think it is in universe/science. | 01:58 |
| siretart | matgates: whats the current upstream version? | 01:58 |
| matgates | You mean the current stabe release of the project? 0.7.1 | 01:59 |
| matgates | *stable | 01:59 |
| siretart | so we are up to date, I'd say | 01:59 |
| siretart | or what do you mean with 'updateting stellarium'?? | 01:59 |
| matgates | Oh, that's odd. I only see 0.6.2-3. | 02:00 |
| matgates | Is the updated version not available to people running [k] ubuntu 5.10? | 02:00 |
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| siretart | matgates: breezy released with 0.6.2-3ubuntu1, but we have now 0.7.1-1ubuntu1 in dapper | 02:01 |
| matgates | OK, sorry, I think I must be mis-undestanding how it works. Newer versions aren't available to people running breezy? | 02:02 |
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| siretart | no. breezy ist stable, we don't want to break stable releases by new upstream versions | 02:03 |
| siretart | dapper is our current development release. expect things to break | 02:03 |
| matgates | right, no probs. | 02:03 |
| matgates | Is there some way to get Stellarium 0.7.1 flagged as being stable enough to go into breezy? It's been the main release of the project for some time, and is quite a lot more stable than older versions. | 02:04 |
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| siretart | matgates: you can try to recompile the dapper sources on breezy, and ask the backports team to include the package into breezy-backports | 02:06 |
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| matgates | Just to be clear (I don't have a history of debian use, so it's a little confusing to me), that means to biuld the src deb from the dapper repositories and then make a request how - via bugzilla? | 02:08 |
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| slomo_ | matgates: not bugzilla... write a mail to ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com instead :) | 02:12 |
| matgates | ok, thanks. | 02:12 |
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| zakame | evening all | 02:43 |
| Yagisan | G'day zakame | 02:44 |
| zakame | hi Yagisan :) | 02:44 |
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| zakame | ooh there's a debiandevelopers LP team now | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I decided to do a bit of voodoo magic to get zsnes running on amd64 | 02:49 |
| zakame | Yagisan: it runs now? | 02:49 |
| Yagisan | zakame: yes :) with my helper package | 02:50 |
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| zakame | w00t! rocking work :D | 02:50 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I can now enjoy chrono trigger :) | 02:50 |
| Yagisan | zakame: which is as far as I'm concerned, the only reason to install zsnes | 02:51 |
| zakame | Yagisan: hehe... I can now imagine you rocking the MOTU Games ship ;) | 02:51 |
| Yagisan | zakame: oh, quake4 no longer needs a chroot either | 02:51 |
| zakame | hm I reckon quake4 needs a GPU with Pixel Shading right? | 02:52 |
| Yagisan | zakame: well, I'll be getting a copy to test soon, but doom3 was the tech demo | 02:53 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I'm not sure my 6800LE is good enough | 02:54 |
| Yagisan | zakame: -rw-r--r-- 1 jamie jamie 1102840 2005-12-05 08:10 zsnes_1.420.orig.tar.gz | 02:54 |
| Yagisan | zakame: -rw-r--r-- 1 jamie jamie 550469 2005-12-30 00:55 zsnes_1.420-0.1ubuntu2.diff.gz | 02:54 |
| Yagisan | O:-) | 02:55 |
| zakame | hm I'm pretty much sure the uncompressed diff's bigger than the orig ;) | 02:55 |
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| Yagisan | zakame: for comparision, -rw-r--r-- 1 jamie jamie 13120 2005-12-05 08:10 zsnes_1.420-0.1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 02:56 |
| Yagisan | zakame: can you guess what my diff is :) | 02:56 |
| zakame | WOW | 02:56 |
| Yagisan | zakame: remember, I'm a lazy bugger, that only really does scripting | 02:57 |
| zakame | haha | 02:58 |
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| zakame | wb raphink | 02:59 |
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| zakame | hm where did we get wxglade last? | 03:09 |
| zakame | ah, never mind | 03:10 |
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| zul | morning | 03:13 |
| zakame | hi zul :) | 03:13 |
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| Gloubiboulga | evening | 05:48 |
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| Yagisan | siretart: ping | 06:24 |
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| Yagisan | siretart: I need another package "rehydrated" | 06:34 |
| Yagisan | siretart: I upped zsnes to tiber | 06:34 |
| Yagisan | siretart: please download, and edit debian/ubuntu.sources.list.txt to point to your dapper mirror | 06:35 |
| Yagisan | siretart: then run ubuntu-fetch-and-build-amd64 | 06:35 |
| Yagisan | siretart: when finished, build source normally, and please load on revu for me | 06:36 |
| Yagisan | siretart: this will port zsnes to amd64 | 06:36 |
| Yagisan | siretart: if the diff is about half the size of the orig after "rehydration", it is fine | 06:37 |
| Yagisan | siretart: thank you | 06:37 |
| Yagisan | Goodnight all | 06:37 |
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| Kyral | have there been any abnormalies concerning DNS in Dapper? | 07:35 |
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| seth_k|lappy | slomo_, hi! you touched mysql-query-browser last... does it segfault on you too in this version, or is it just me? | 08:59 |
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| JohnnyMast | does ubuntu has heap protection | 09:09 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 10:44 |
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| siretart | huhu sistpoty | 10:50 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart | 10:50 |
| sistpoty | siretart: can you help me with a library packaging issue? | 10:50 |
| siretart | sistpoty: perhaps, what is it? | 10:51 |
| sistpoty | siretart: a library (new clanlib) produces multiple .so files, with different sonames (like libclanvorbis-0.8-1 libclanmikmod-0.8-1) | 10:51 |
| sistpoty | siretart: should I put all these into different binary packages to match the SONAME? | 10:51 |
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| siretart | sistpoty: I don't think that that is necessary. IIUC, you can expect the soname to be changed along all .so's, no? | 10:53 |
| sistpoty | siretart: the soname is different with these shared objects. I'm not quite sure if the soname-version would change for all libs or only for one lib | 10:54 |
| sistpoty | siretart: however lintian complains about different soname/libname | 10:55 |
| siretart | it does? interesting.. | 10:55 |
| sistpoty | siretart: the gain might be, that an app compiled against libclanlib0.8-dev might only need some binary packages due to shlibs | 10:55 |
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| siretart | hm. I'm a bit undecided, and would need to do some more research about that | 10:56 |
| siretart | hm | 10:56 |
| sistpoty | siretart: ok... library packaging guide also suggests that soname should match... but I'm pretty clueless after all ;) | 10:57 |
| siretart | hm | 10:58 |
| siretart | libclanlib has some reverse dependencies | 10:58 |
| siretart | what exactly do you want to solve? | 10:58 |
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| sistpoty | siretart: new version must be installable alongside old version | 10:59 |
| sistpoty | siretart: problem is that probably some packages will ftbfs if it isn't | 10:59 |
| Kyral | hmm | 10:59 |
| siretart | uuh, ugly thing.. | 10:59 |
| Kyral | this is fun lol | 10:59 |
| siretart | sistpoty: for what do you need the new libclanlib? | 10:59 |
| sistpoty | new games :) | 11:00 |
| Kyral | check this out | 11:00 |
| sistpoty | such as wormux http://www.wormux.org/en/index.php | 11:00 |
| Kyral | my wireless to the net from my Desktop went to heck | 11:00 |
| Kyral | so I just connected my laptop to the router and setup FreeNX :D | 11:00 |
| siretart | hm. and it needs libclanlib 0.7, which has changed soname. is the new version at least api compatible to the old one? | 11:01 |
| sistpoty | siretart: no it isn't | 11:02 |
| siretart | hrmpf. | 11:02 |
| sistpoty | however I already solved, that new clanlib can be installed alongside old one | 11:02 |
| siretart | ok. Now I see the problem | 11:02 |
| sistpoty | only -dev packages need to conflict (but that' | 11:02 |
| sistpoty | + should always be the case, iirc) | 11:03 |
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| siretart | perhaps you should file an ITP and contact Filip (the clanlib maintainer in debian) | 11:03 |
| sistpoty | siretart: from some reading in bts, Filip is mia... but another guy wants to adopt clanlib, whom I will contact :) | 11:04 |
| siretart | sistpoty: even better | 11:05 |
| siretart | the bugs of clanlib look like they would need some love anyway | 11:06 |
| sistpoty | yep... but I want to put a good proposal of new clanlib to revu, before I start writing mails :) | 11:06 |
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| slomo_ | seth_k|lappy: no idea... i merged it but i have nothing to test it :/ sorry | 11:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | slomo_, no worries, thank you :) | 11:09 |
| sistpoty | hi slomo_ | 11:09 |
| siretart | sistpoty: good idea! :) | 11:09 |
| siretart | huhu slomo_ | 11:09 |
| slomo_ | seth_k|lappy: just file a bugreport :) | 11:09 |
| seth_k|lappy | slomo_, yep ;) | 11:09 |
| slomo_ | hi sistpoty, siretart | 11:09 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: I solved ghc6 issue... was a problem with haskell-utils :) | 11:09 |
| sistpoty | (the first time I really could use my haskell-skill or the lack of them *g*) | 11:10 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: hehe thanks :) and mythtv too ;) | 11:10 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: so you owe me a beer ;) *g* | 11:10 |
| siretart | mythtv has been orphaned and needs a new maintainer badly | 11:12 |
| slomo_ | hmm... mdz doesn't want it anymore? | 11:13 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: sure... when we meet some day :) | 11:13 |
| sistpoty | :) | 11:13 |
| siretart | slomo_: no :( | 11:15 |
| slomo_ | siretart: we should ask tseng... he uses and needs it afaik :P | 11:15 |
| sistpoty | wasn't there some discussion about svn-repos with current packaging development last night? | 11:16 |
| siretart | slomo_: oh, good to know | 11:17 |
| siretart | sistpoty: huh? did I miss something? | 11:17 |
| sistpoty | mom. checking logs | 11:17 |
| sistpoty | [00:22:01] <crimsun> it's actually not mdz's anymore according to http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/163269 | 11:18 |
| sistpoty | [00:22:23] <crimsun> though we should definitely coordinate w/ whatever those guys are doing in svn | 11:18 |
| siretart | slomo_: libtunepimp is missing a dependency on libmad0-dev. do you know about that? | 11:18 |
| siretart | slomo_: I just recompiled it locally, and now amarok can use musicbrainz with mp3 :) | 11:19 |
| slomo_ | siretart: that's intentional | 11:19 |
| slomo_ | siretart: we must ship it on cd because of amarok but we can't ship mad on cd | 11:19 |
| siretart | slomo_: oh. thats interesting, because mad is in main | 11:20 |
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| siretart | very annoying. what is the user expected to do in order to get musicbrainz support for mp3? | 11:20 |
| slomo_ | siretart: change the laws? :) i have a musicbrainz/tunepimp package with mad on my todo list... as another source package in universe... Riddell asked me to do it some time ago | 11:21 |
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| sethbc | i'd like to volunteer to support a lighttpd package on ubuntu | 11:22 |
| siretart | slomo_: ah, ok. this means more or less 'unneeded' duplication | 11:22 |
| sethbc | (Assuming of course that no one has satisfied the RFI currently out there) | 11:22 |
| lfittl | sethbc: there is already a debian package, that we will get soon | 11:22 |
| Riddell | slomo_: the new musicbrainz has loadable modules for different codecs so we can just put the mp3 .so into a separate package. unfortunatly nothing uses it yet | 11:23 |
| Riddell | it's not API compatible | 11:23 |
| sethbc | lfittl: i figured, it's been in sid for a little while, just wanted to help things along if i could as i've been using it for a while, and it'd be much more convenient if it were in the repo ;-) | 11:23 |
| slomo_ | Riddell: ok... hm, are the changes big? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | slomo_: I don't think so but e.g. amarok hasn't yet been ported | 11:24 |
| slomo_ | hm, port it ;) | 11:25 |
| lfittl | Does somebody know when new debian unstable packages get synced? | 11:26 |
| sistpoty | lfittl: not exactly, but I guess they are synced with the daily MoM runs | 11:28 |
| sistpoty | lfittl: at least a new debian package, I was envolved in, was in dapper, when I first found out that it hit unstable. | 11:29 |
| lfittl | sistpoty: any idea who I could ask for details? | 11:29 |
| sistpoty | lfittl: maybe keybuk? maybe elmo? | 11:29 |
| lfittl | sistpoty: k, thanks, will ask keybuk later | 11:31 |
| lfittl | sethbc: just wait, I will try to get lighttpd into dapper repos as fast as possible ;) | 11:33 |
| tseng | slomo_: hm i dont use it lately | 11:33 |
| tseng | slomo_: most things lately seem to be toolchain problems :/ | 11:34 |
| slomo_ | tseng: what other things? | 11:34 |
| tseng | mythv problems | 11:34 |
| slomo_ | what happens there? | 11:35 |
| tseng | erm | 11:35 |
| tseng | the last couple changes we've made is for gcc changes and stuff | 11:35 |
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