[12:00] <gnomefreak> mwe,  in all senses its heavey (for code atleast) and you havent noticed it takes forever to load?
[12:00] <boa-chan> amarok works fine with it
[12:00] <boa-chan> ooo im so leet
[12:00] <boa-chan> lol
[12:00] <gnomefreak> oh and its not quite freely distrubted
[12:00] <fredforfaen> i wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?
[12:00] <ompaul> !tell boa-chan about enter
[12:00] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah and it eats half my sytem memory
[12:01] <boa-chan> oh ok, heh
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> Hello.  I've got an apparent fstab configuration error...  it mounts the partitions correctly, but not with the right permissions
[12:01] <fredforfaen> xorg.conf*
[12:01] <gnomefreak> and to think i start a java class in jan :(
[12:01] <HurricaneJ> ok thanks i got the answer for my mp3 needs
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> I can't read anything unless I'm root
[12:01] <greenpenguin13> python :)
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: put user under options
[12:01] <crimsun> NeoSHODAN: NTFS partition? pass umask=022
[12:01] <poseidon_linux_B> sorry... I got offline... lets try again... well, someone can help? I need a information if the Ubuntu customized for HP notebooks is better than the normal 5.10 Breezy (which is newer)... what is better for hardware support?
[12:01] <HurricaneJ> now im searching for a wireless network manager like the one windows have to see what networks are within my range
[12:01] <gnomefreak> they dont have python yet but i have books its just a pita compared to C
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> user is under options, that was what I thought would solve it
[12:01] <gerald-volt> what are some good linux games?
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: oh yeah and umask 0222 or 222
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> umask=022?
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: no
[12:02] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: 0222
[12:02] <gnomefreak> gerald-volt, what type of games?
[12:02] <NeoSHODAN> that goes under options?
[12:02] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: right
[12:02] <gerald-volt> anything that's free
[12:02] <NeoSHODAN> thank you
[12:02] <gnomefreak> there are a buntch of games in synaptic
[12:02] <I_Am_> anybody know how i would view my grub entries?
[12:02] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <gerald-volt> shooting, racing that's multiplayer?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !games
[12:03] <ubotu> somebody said games was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[12:03] <fredforfaen> !transparency
[12:03] <ubotu> fredforfaen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:04] <fredforfaen> i wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?
[12:04] <mwe> happypenguin.org should go to that list as well
[12:05] <renee_> can someone help me plz? i got a error with dhclient
[12:05] <I_Am_> thanks gnomefreak
[12:05] <mwe> oh and http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+games is a good place to look for linux games to btw
[12:05] <renee_> last time before reboot i had dhclient command and now it says that i dont have the command anymore
[12:05] <I_Am_> i wanna format my windows partition
[12:06] <mwe> I_Am_: format with what file system?
[12:06] <ompaul> renee_, run "sudo dhclient" if it is there it will run if not then lets install it
[12:06] <I_Am_> the ubuntu user guide says i can boot unbuntu from the disk and then alter grub after i boot from the startup list
[12:06] <I_Am_> ntfs
[12:06] <ompaul> !guide
[12:06] <ubotu> ompaul: Are you on ritalin?
[12:06] <I_Am_> but now i'm wondering if i should use fat 32
[12:06] <I_Am_> at least i can alter files if its fat 32
[12:06] <poseidon_linux_B> well, is anybody interested on a talk about hardware support for HP notebooks? may be a private talk to dont disturbe this room
[12:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell I_Am_ about recover
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: if you wanna write from linux, use fat32, yes
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: it wont handle files larger than 4GB though
[12:07] <ompaul> poseidon_linux_B, how #ubuntu-offtopic is there if anyone wants to talk about it
[12:07] <I_Am_> isn't ntfs better for windows though?
[12:07] <ZeroIRC> j00 lik3 i7 wh3r3?
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: yes _much_ better
[12:07] <madsen_> do I have to change folder permissions to be able to change icons on the panels?
[12:08] <I_Am_> hmmmm
[12:08] <I_Am_> what to do?
[12:08] <mwe> I_Am_: you can make a smaller shared fat32 partition
[12:08] <renee_> ompaul, im using root
[12:08] <renee_> ompaul, thats the problem :S
[12:08] <jhenn> is dapper okay to install?
[12:09] <ompaul> renee_, well sudo was developed not to have these issues
[12:09] <mwe> jhenn: if you don't mind a broken system it is
[12:09] <erUSUL> Tues13th
[12:09] <renee_> ompaul, but how i can turn it on again?
[12:09] <pashaw> jhenn,    if ytou can fix your own problems yes  if not  no
[12:09] <renee_> ompaul,  i dont have my superuser anymore
[12:09] <jhenn> thanks
[12:10] <ompaul> renee_, if you have the first user the sudo stuff is still there
[12:10] <sorush20> how do I restart xserver?
[12:10] <SuperHero> does anyone know why I can't find a package that I know exists?
[12:10] <renee_> ompaul,  i dont have it anymore :(
[12:10] <pashaw> sorush20,  ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:10] <I_Am_> i already have a shared drive that i left with fat32
[12:10] <SuperHero> I am trying to install phpbb
[12:10] <mwe> SuperHero: you don't have the repo enabled or you don't type the name correctly
[12:11] <SuperHero> repo?
[12:11] <ompaul> renee_, what else did you think was good to change?
[12:11] <I_Am_> so do i need to use the ubuntu live cd to get back into ubuntu after i reinstall windows
[12:11] <I_Am_> or can i use the ubuntu install cd
[12:11] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[12:11] <pashaw> renee_,   you just created your own distro  its not ubuntu anymore  :P
[12:12] <Mabus06> If I'm replacing the motherboard do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[12:12] <mwe> SuperHero: yeah repository. you need universe enabled and the package is phpbb2
[12:12] <ompaul> pashaw, stop reading my script :)
[12:12] <SuperHero> yes
[12:12] <SuperHero> how do I enable that?
[12:12] <mwe> !tell SuperHero about universe
[12:12] <pashaw> ompaul,   lol     ive seen this story 4-5 times in 2 days    its amusing
[12:12] <mwe> !tell SuperHero about multiverse
[12:12] <SuperHero> wow
[12:13] <SuperHero> that really cuts down on the having to repeat a previous answer
[12:13] <SuperHero> I like it
[12:13] <Yawgmoth7> I am trying  to install Ubuntu on a external hard drive, and everything goes fine until I get to the part where it installs grub. It freezes and dosen't do anything. Has anybody had this problem before. Or maybe ahve a solution?
[12:13] <SealyDave> !tell SealyDav about universe
[12:13] <mwe> SuperHero: the source-o-matic is way easiest, I guess
[12:13] <ompaul> renee_, what I seriously suggest is that you reinstall it - back up anything that might be useful onto CD or loose it - then do things the way we suggest, guess what it works well :)
[12:13] <bambix> hello all
[12:14] <bambix> sorry to barge in like tis but i've got a problem-question
[12:14] <pashaw> Mabus06,   no unless  your using some exotic hardware   it should run well enough to fix it
[12:14] <Mabus06> pashaw, okay
[12:14] <SuperHero> problem
[12:14] <SuperHero> I'm not using X11R6
[12:14] <Ninja> hi there. Can anyone help in getting surround sound to work on creative 5.1 speakers
[12:14] <SuperHero> I just have the server version
[12:14] <mwe> SuperHero: and?
[12:14] <SuperHero> so
[12:14] <SuperHero> apt-get
[12:14] <pashaw> Mabus06,   x settings  matter if you change  video card
[12:14] <crimsun> Ninja: use -Dplug:surround51
[12:14] <SuperHero> is how I install packages
[12:14] <mwe> SuperHero: you still have /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get
[12:14] <crimsun> Ninja: then make sure you adjust the LFE, Center, Front, and Surround mixer elements
[12:15] <bambix> when i go to synaptics package manager and go for the repositories it doesn't have a settings button, do i need sudo=<
[12:15] <crimsun> Ninja: you might find the speaker-test utility (cli) helpful
[12:15] <pashaw> Mabus06,   backup  important files first
[12:15] <mwe> SuperHero: just edit sources.list and remove hashmarks as commented. then apt-get update and you should be good
[12:16] <Ninja> crimsun do i need to put that in the terminal as is says command not found
[12:16] <SealyDave> what is the better package install similar to automatrix?
[12:16] <crimsun> Ninja: no, you'd specify plug:surround51 as the device in any ALSA application
[12:16] <ompaul> easyubuntu
[12:17] <mwe> SealyDave: automatrix?
[12:17] <Yawgmoth7> Does anyone know why it freezes when it gets to the grub part of the installation?
[12:17] <SealyDave> automatix
[12:17] <mwe> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:17] <SuperHero> it still says
[12:17] <ompaul> SealyDave,  easyubuntu
[12:17] <Mabus06> msg pashaw I am changing video cards too
[12:17] <SuperHero> 'cannot find package phpbb2'
[12:17] <KenMasters> one question, driver for Creative PC CAM 350 whre download ?
[12:18] <pashaw> Mabus06,    then change xorg.conf  to vesa  driver
[12:18] <mwe> SuperHero: you need to sudo apt-get update first
[12:18] <LetterRip> Hi for Dapper Drake would it be possible to use Blender 2.40 instead of 2.37a?
[12:18] <Mabus06> pashaw, how?
[12:18] <SealyDave> !tell SealyDave easyubuntu
[12:18] <SuperHero> sry, I was a redhat user
[12:18] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, I suggest to people who end up in that position that they install "server" when the install starts then >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< on first boot
[12:18] <SuperHero> thanks
[12:18] <poningru> !tell SealyDave about easyubuntu
[12:18] <mwe> SuperHero: you're welcome
[12:19] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[12:19] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, tends to work for them
[12:19] <Ninja> well i exucuted the  -c6 -D plug:surround51 speaker test and my yoo back speakers arent working
[12:19] <fmasi> what is the port that webmin uses ?
[12:19] <crimsun> Ninja: so make sure you unmuted them using a mixer
[12:19] <nalioth> SealyDave: join #easyubuntu if you want more info
[12:19] <SealyDave> kew
[12:19] <SuperHero> its working
[12:19] <SuperHero> thanks, much
[12:19] <ompaul> greetings thoreauputic
[12:19] <mwe> SuperHero: you're welcome.
[12:20] <Fred> is there a shell command to do an MX lookup on a domain?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hello there :)
[12:20] <Ng> Fred: dig -t mx somedomain.com
[12:20] <mela1975> huhu
[12:21] <Fred> thanks Ng
[12:21] <mela1975> huhu
[12:21] <Yawgmoth7> ompaul: I might just not be understanding what your saying, but I'm not able to get to Ubuntu, since it just get's to the part of boot where it checks got bootable CD's then freezes. ANd I don't think there is a shell or anything to do that in whilst in the isntallation
[12:21] <mwe> mela1975: huh?
[12:21] <mela1975> :-)
[12:21] <mela1975> +491752088077
[12:22] <Ninja> crimsun: on my volume control i can find, surround, center and lfe
[12:23] <madsen_> when does the previous kernel version NOT show on multiple boot options?
[12:23] <crimsun> Ninja: then it'd be surround or rear
[12:23] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, correct your not understanding me, let me try again. Restart the install, when it pauses type >>server<< when that is done and the machine reboots login and run this command >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<<
[12:23] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, i.e, you start with a server install and build on that
[12:23] <Yawgmoth7> Oh
[12:24] <cafuego> Fred: host -t mx <domain> actually.
[12:24] <john> can someone please tell me what to do in terminal to automatically finish off a command line?
[12:24] <john> ...i forgot!
[12:24] <Yawgmoth7> Errr, where would I type that, since there really is nowhere to type that during the install, Terribly sorry I'm not getting it
[12:24] <Fred> cafuego, well both work :) thanks :)
[12:24] <thoreauputic> joh: use tab completion?
[12:24] <john> thats the one
[12:24] <john> cheers
[12:25] <Ninja> yeah i have surround, still only getting four speakers though
[12:25] <ompaul> john, that depends on the command so no simple answer - you might be thinking of tab for part of a command but it does not do the optiions and I see thoreauputic has beaten me to it but I have typed so much I will keep going :)
[12:25] <ryorininseven> Hey, anybody have any experience with installing VMWare 5.5?
[12:25] <mirak_> I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all
[12:26] <cafuego> ompaul: With bash, come commends to have tab completion for options actually.
[12:26] <cafuego> s/c/s/
[12:26] <mwe> ryorininseven: yeah. I just ran the installation script with sudo
[12:26] <Ninja> only one speaker not working, would it be master ?
[12:26] <john> ompaul, thanks :)
[12:26] <ompaul> cafuego, which is not all :) but I did not know that, thanks
[12:26] <ryorininseven> mwe: So did I, but VMWare crashes a few seconds after starting now.
[12:26] <cafuego> ompaul: My favourite there is hostname completion :-)
[12:26] <ompaul> john, enjoy
[12:27] <ompaul> hmm
[12:27] <cafuego> ryorininseven: Did you upgrade your kernel?
[12:27] <mwe> ryorininseven: hm. I don't know why. I'd check the log files
[12:27] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Not yet, but I think I'll give that a shot.
[12:27] <TokenBad> ok I have mp3's I want to burn to a audio cd that will work in cd player...anyone tell me how to do this in ubuntu?
[12:27] <ryorininseven> mwe: Which log files should I be looking at?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> you can also set "programmable tab complete " in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc (global)  - useful eg with apt-cache and sudo
[12:27] <cafuego> ryorininseven: No, no... upgrading a kernel will mean you'll need to rebuild the vmware modules.
[12:28] <ryorininseven> Oh. Well, I haven't upgraded yet, so ...
[12:28] <mwe> ryorininseven: syslog and what not in /var/log. or look in /home/ryorininseven/vmware and subdirs if anything is there
[12:28] <ryorininseven> cafuego: I'm running 2.6.12-9-386.
[12:28] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hmm more notes being made I might call you  on that one
[12:28] <Yawgmoth7> Well, I guess I'll try to figure out what ompaul was saying, I'll see if I can get it to just install the base
[12:28] <benplaut> is it normal for camera drivers to take... 3-4 minutes to load?
[12:28] <mirak_> I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all
[12:28] <mirak_> any idea about that ?
[12:29] <Yawgmoth7> Course, I stilll need it to boot somehow, which that means I would need grub
[12:29] <mirak_> the bug reports are not helping
[12:29] <cafuego> ryorininseven: I had nothing but trouble with vmware on any Ubuntu, just oopsed the kernel continuously.
[12:29] <maskd> gday, anybody else with dapper whose msn in gaim always crashes?
[12:29] <mirak_> there  is no solution to this problem
[12:29] <TokenBad> anyone?
[12:29] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, that is what I said except as the boot starts it is called "server" read the screen a few seconds into the install
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ompaul: programmable completion for instance will complete package names with apt etc
[12:29] <mirak_> maskd: no prob here
[12:29] <maskd> mm
[12:29] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Ahhh. Well, nuts
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nice feature...
[12:29] <Yawgmoth7> Ok
[12:29] <mwe> mirak_: I don't know. getting the tarball from eclipse.org works. that's what I did though
[12:29] <cafuego> ryorininseven: vmware player works fine, though.
[12:30] <bk> can someone tell me where to extract a tar file like firefox?
[12:30] <cafuego> bk: Still can't find #gentoo?
[12:30] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Ooh, ok. So then it just comes down to making a VM for use with it.
[12:30] <bk> i didn
[12:30] <bk> i did
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> bk,  you just downloaded the firefox 1.5 tar?
[12:30] <mirak_> mwe: you installed it in your $HOME ?
[12:30] <bk> i'm giving up on gentoo
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you on skype atm ?
[12:30] <bk> i'm back to ubuntu
[12:30] <mwe> ryorininseven: vmware runs without trouble here, though
[12:30] <ompaul> not atm
[12:30] <cafuego> !firefox1.5
[12:30] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:30] <ryorininseven> mwe: What kernel are you running?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ompaul: OK
[12:30] <ompaul> but give it a sec
[12:30] <mirak_> bk: gentoo is horrible
[12:30] <bk> but the latest version of ubuntu uses firefox 1.0.7
[12:30] <ryorininseven> mwe: And you're using Hoary or Breezy?
[12:30] <mwe> mirak_: no. only the guest os
[12:30] <Razor-X> mirak_: I like Gentoo quite a bit
[12:31] <cafuego> ryorininseven: They all run very happily in vnc on the Edubuntu server now :-)
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: no im confused
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: eclipse, right?
[12:31] <ompaul> there
[12:31] <mirak_> Razor-X: I like the ability to compile "on the fly" but it lacks a bit of humanity
[12:31] <bk> so i want to install the latest firefox
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Gentoo is nice in ways. Bad in others.. same with ubuntu. Lol.
[12:31] <cafuego> !rule 1
[12:31] <mirak_> mwe: eclipse
[12:31] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: too many simutanious chats :)
[12:31] <bk> i'm giving up on gentoo for right now
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: I installed it in /opt
[12:31] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Haha, nice
[12:31] <mirak_> mwe: ok
[12:31] <I_Am_> okies i'm viewing a wiki page about recovering ubuntu after installing windows
[12:31] <cafuego> bk: See rule 1.
[12:31] <bk> so where should i extract firefox?
[12:32] <Razor-X> mirak_: yeah, it has it's disadvantages
[12:32] <yatesy> bk: whereever you like
[12:32] <I_Am_> it talks about a seperate boot partition
[12:32] <I_Am_> how do i find out if i have one
[12:32] <bk> how about /usr/sbin?
[12:32] <sorush20> my open Gl acceleration isn't working eventhough I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ATI%29 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29. I have ati radeon 9250
[12:32] <cafuego> bk: And also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion. I didn't make ubotu post that for no reason.
[12:32] <ryorininseven> mwe: And I've got no mention of any vmware errors in any of the log files, so that's a little distressing.
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> I really dont see whats so impiorntant about fuirefox 1.5 actually.
[12:32] <cafuego> bk: NO. Read the url.
[12:32] <yatesy> bk: sbin is used for superuser processes only
[12:32] <mirak_> Razor-X: at least I tried it :)
[12:32] <I_Am_> when i viewed the grub info it did not say anything about a boot partition
[12:32] <sorush20> when I run glxgears they run fine for a few seconds then it slows really down.
[12:32] <bk> alright, cafuego. i'll read it.
[12:32] <mwe> ryorininseven: auw. that's bad
[12:32] <bk> cafuego, are u a developer?
[12:32] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: It's 0.43 better then version 1.0.7
[12:33] <mirak_> Razor-X: on a powermac G3 400mhz and G4 350 ...
[12:33] <cafuego> bk: No, just sensible.
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: and the modules are loading ok?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> cafuego,  guess so. :P
[12:33] <rabbit> I get an error when using mail-notification that "login failed"  with gmail, anyone know what to do?
[12:33] <bk> lol
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: dmesg says nothing either?
[12:33] <ompaul> cafuego, read the page - then you will see what it is that is needed
[12:33] <MiniLinux> hello
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: Seems that way, yeah.
[12:33] <MiniLinux> i have problem for see video
[12:33] <MiniLinux> i have installed all all all
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: Dmesg has nothing but stuff about setting keycodes, but I've been getting that for a while now.
[12:33] <ompaul> doh!
[12:33] <ompaul> cafuego, double doh
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: then I can't help you, sorry
[12:33] <MiniLinux> the all video tutorial explain
[12:33] <MiniLinux> w32codecs is installed
[12:33] <cafuego> hh
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: No problem. Thanks anyway.
[12:33] <MiniLinux> gstreamer is installed
[12:33] <MiniLinux> xine is installed
[12:34] <MiniLinux> mplayer is installed
[12:34] <ompaul> thoreauputic, there now
[12:34] <MiniLinux> 3000 library is installed
[12:34] <mwe> ryorininseven: unkown scancodes in dmesg? shouldn't influence right
[12:34] <MiniLinux> and the video show BLUE image
[12:34] <ryorininseven> mwe: Right.
[12:34] <Razor-X> rabbit: what mail client are you using?
[12:34] <ryorininseven> mwe: Far as I can tell, they're basically harmless gripes -- maybe tied to Windowmaker, I dunno.
[12:34] <rabbit> mail-notification
[12:35] <rabbit> Razor-X: mail-notification
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ?
[12:35] <hd420> wtf is up with breezy?
[12:35] <ompaul> yak yak
[12:35] <ryorininseven> mwe: Anyways, I need to get moving. Thanks again for the help.
[12:35] <Razor-X> rabbit: ... that's not an MUA -_-
[12:35] <ompaul> hd420, nothing
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you aren't showing online yet
[12:35] <ryorininseven> cafuego: And thank you for the help as well. :)
[12:35] <rabbit> Razor-X: MUA?
[12:35] <Razor-X> rabbit: what do you use to retrieve mail?
[12:36] <Razor-X> *retreive
[12:36] <ompaul> thoreauputic, had been for a while restarting
[12:36] <hd420> ompaul: why is apt giving me "error 1" when trying to install apache?
[12:36] <mwe> rabbit: mua = mail user agent. *nix lingo
[12:36] <rabbit> Razor-X:  I have a gmail account, I was looking for something like gmail notifier (in windows)  and someone suggested mail-notification..  but it fails to login
[12:36] <ompaul> hd420, paste the stuff your doing and getting in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:36] <I_Am_> help
[12:37] <sorush20> which should I use xfree86 or xorg?
[12:37] <I_Am_> i'm terribly stuck
[12:37] <Razor-X> rabbit: MUA == Mail User Agent, Mail Client basicall, MTA == Mail Transfer Agent or Mail server
[12:37] <visik7> why there is a reference to fedora in ubuntu wiki ???? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QemuEmulator ???
[12:37] <Razor-X> rabbit: oh.... I've heard very little about it, what exactly did gmail notifier do?
[12:37] <I_Am_> anybody ever restored their grub menu after reinstalling windows
[12:37] <MiniLinux> someone know a page that contain the COMPLETE PROCEDURE for install all necessary for see MPG and MPEG video???
[12:37] <cmatheson> !tell I_Am_ about anyone
[12:37] <I_Am_> i've read the turtorial how to and i have some questions
[12:37] <rabbit> Razor-X:   pops up a little messsage when you get emails..   you can also right click on the sys tray icon and go to your inbox (launches in browser)
[12:37] <MiniLinux> http://help.ubuntu-it.org/guidabreezy/ch03.html#codecs
[12:38] <I_Am_> thanks cmatheson
[12:38] <ilba7r> I_AM shoot
[12:38] <MiniLinux> I have installed all of that pakages
[12:38] <Razor-X> rabbit: there's actually something called ``gmail-notify'' in the repos, as I see it :)
[12:38] <I_Am_> i've reviewed my fstab
[12:38] <Razor-X> rabbit: but your problem with mail-notification probably deals with TLS/SSL, because gmail uses nonstandard ports and stuff
[12:38] <rabbit> Razor-X: yeah but that only handles gmail and mail-notification handles POP and IMAP and stuff too
[12:38] <I_Am_> and the howto refers to /boot in the fstab
[12:38] <greenpenguin13> gmail-manager firefox extension
[12:38] <bk> cafuego, that link u told me about; i can't access it without downloading and installing a personal security manager.  where do i get that?
[12:39] <I_Am_> but my fstab doesn't contain anything refering to a /boot and a hard drive
[12:39] <Razor-X> has anyone noticed that Firefox is becoming a lot like emacs? :)
[12:39] <rabbit> Razor-X: the help for this says it has SSL/TLS support
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> i think there is a gdesklet set that does that
[12:39] <Kyral> Nothin' wrong with Emacs :D
[12:39] <nekostar> how hard is it to get ubuntu to work on a laptop?
[12:39] <Razor-X> rabbit: what port do you use?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Razor-X,  wee need an emacs extension for firefox!
[12:39] <ilba7r> I-Am this is special if you have a boot partition most probably yours is on the MBR
[12:39] <Razor-X> Kyral: exactly, but many would kill me for saying that
[12:39] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: :P
[12:39] <rabbit> Razor-X: I have no idea
[12:39] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6282
[12:39] <bk> nekostar, it's easy. i got it going now.
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> and a firefox extension for emacs
[12:39] <nekostar> a dell insperion 4000 to be exact
[12:39] <I_Am_> i have windows and ubuntu on the same hard drive if that makes any difference
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> recursive!
[12:39] <Razor-X> rabbit: what steps did you use to configure mail-notification?
[12:40] <nekostar> its only a celeron 600MHz 128MB ram
[12:40] <rabbit> Razor-X: I just put in my account info in the preferences for it
[12:40] <nekostar> 5 gig hdd :/
[12:40] <hd420> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6282
[12:40] <Razor-X> rabbit: does it let you specify SMTP/POP servers and the port numbers?
[12:40] <nekostar> but i was thinking of using it as a portable media player frankly hehe
[12:40] <albacker> guys i compiled kernel and got this when booting : Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:40] <bk> forget it cafuego, i was using mozilla. i tried the link on firefox and it works.  thanks
[12:40] <I_Am_> so after reinsalling windows.... its the mbr that needs to be modified
[12:41] <ilba7r> I_Am some people like to have a seperate partition for boot. If you used the standard ubuntu install you will not have this partition
[12:41] <I_Am_> awesome
[12:41] <ilba7r> I_Am you need to reinstall grub right
[12:41] <I_Am_> well i havent actually reinstalled windows yet
[12:41] <MiniLinux> I installed:
[12:41] <MiniLinux> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, sox, ffmpegm,
[12:41] <MiniLinux> gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-mad, vorbis-tools, lame, faad, , mjpegtools, totem-xine
[12:41] <I_Am_> i'm just getting prepared
[12:41] <tod_kon> Me sound stopped working all the sudden... and there is no alsaconf on this humble distro -_-
[12:41] <rabbit> Razor-X:  for pop accounts, yes..   but there's a special 'gmail' one, I used that
[12:41] <sorush20> I get an error in   /var/log/Xorg.0.log that unable to aquire agp any help on fixing this?
[12:41] <tod_kon> Can someone please help me out?
[12:41] <MiniLinux> and w32codecs, and i runned gst-register-0.8
[12:41] <[cro] smiley> how to eject CD by pressing eject button?
[12:41] <Razor-X> rabbit: ah
[12:41] <HurricaneJ> i have a windows xp computer where i have all my music and pictures how can i log in to the network using ubuntu so that i can access those files?
[12:42] <Razor-X> rabbit: does it show you the servers of the special ``gmail'' setting?
[12:42] <MiniLinux> bat i dont see the video
[12:42] <I_Am_> so yes ilba7r i believe i just need to get the grub menu back after reinstalling windows
[12:42] <sethk> HurricaneJ, samba is for that purpose
[12:42] <MiniLinux> HELP
[12:42] <greenpenguin13> or ifolder ?
[12:42] <[cro] smiley> how to eject CD by pressing eject button?
[12:42] <rabbit> Razor-X:  I don't see any server stuff
[12:42] <sethk> HurricaneJ, access windows shares from linux, or making linux stuff look like a windows share, you use samba
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> [cro] smiley,  its proberly been automounted - you must unmount it first. then hit the button
[12:42] <HurricaneJ> can i get samba off sypnatic?
[12:42] <Razor-X> rabbit: how would you configure it for a non-gmail account?
[12:42] <bwb> anyone have a logitech wireless keyboard of some sort? (Just wanted to ask if it is normal for it to be alittly laggy)
[12:42] <nekostar> i know dells have problem on some distros so i was wondering about ubuntu :)
[12:42] <sethk> [cro] smiley, or use the eject command (also after you umount it)
[12:42] <rabbit> Razor-X:  it's got different fields for those
[12:43] <sethk> nekostar, I have it on two dells, without major problems.
[12:43] <Razor-X> rabbit: can you show me a screenshot?
[12:43] <nekostar> ok
[12:43] <[cro] smiley> Dr_Willis, can i unmount from console and how?
[12:43] <sethk> nekostar, but I don't trust dells all that much
[12:43] <nekostar> its also not connected to the inet so its a fully offline install....
[12:43] <cafuego> bugger
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> [cro] smiley,  yes.. with the umount command.
[12:43] <I_Am_> ilba7r, have you used the method described in wiki?
[12:43] <lleberg> Will a installation with the install cd give me the choice of formating my disc?
[12:43] <[cro] smiley> Dr_Willis, thx
[12:43] <visik7> lleberg: yes
[12:43] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: did you try going to places->network servers?
[12:43] <nekostar> how small a swap can i use for 128MB ram.. say 256MB ?
[12:43] <lleberg> i had a kernel panic wafter updating to breezy :P
[12:44] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: umount /media/cdrom1
[12:44] <sorush20> or umount -a
[12:44] <lleberg> visik7: Is there any way of not formating and still getting it to work?
[12:44] <sorush20> or umount -l
[12:44] <rabbit> Razor-X: just a sec
[12:44] <sorush20> you might need to use sudo for those
[12:44] <Razor-X> rabbit: mmmkay
[12:44] <lleberg> visik7: to not loose the things i have on it
[12:44] <nekostar> and how small an install can i do with server install + openbox + totem-xine + codecs
[12:44] <cafuego> nekostar: If you don't run X, you can even have no swap whatsoever.
[12:44] <mcscruff> when you do an apt-key add where does it put the key?
[12:44] <lleberg> nothing important though, maybe i should format it anyway
[12:44] <visik7> lleberg: bab
[12:44] <nekostar> cafuego, its for watching anime on the go basically :P:
[12:44] <visik7> lleberg: backup it
[12:45] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, thanx now it works
[12:45] <qwerty> would a BCM V.92 56K Voice Modem work on linux
[12:45] <Razor-X> qwerty: google my friend :)
[12:45] <qwerty> (ubuntu linux)
[12:45] <cafuego> nekostar: 128Mb swap *minimum* but 256 is probably a better bet.
[12:45] <lleberg> visik7: Is that also an alternative on the installation? Because i have no other computer or disc to put it on :)
[12:45] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: what were you running k3b?
[12:45] <lleberg> it's an sata disc and this computer ses IDE only :P
[12:45] <Red-Sox> how do you find out how much ram you have?
[12:45] <Red-Sox> from the command line?
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: 'free'
[12:46] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, sorry i'm newbie please explain
[12:46] <nekostar> ok i can do that :)
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: The first number you see is the amount of ram in kb.
[12:46] <ompaul> hd420, I had a look at your paste, what version of ubutu are you running?
[12:46] <Red-Sox> cafuego: what about all the hardware specs?
[12:46] <cafuego> 1554492
[12:46] <WorstPhobia> What's a good Linux backup program?
[12:46] <Hikaru79> Is it safe to add partitions to the hard drive that I'm currently using using gparted, as long as I'm not resizing or modifying in any way, the partitions I currently have mounted? (i.e, I'm creating new partitions out of free unallocated space)
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: cat /proc/cpuinfo; lspci; dmesg | less
[12:46] <sorush20> Red-Sox: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..
[12:46] <hd420> ompaul: breezy
[12:47] <lleberg> I'll make some tea and then i'll get on with my installation :)
[12:47] <john> i am installing cedega on an gf6600 gfx card pc and open gl and 3d fails, do I need to install some drivers? If so how? please someone :)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> WorstPhobia: unison isn't bad
[12:47] <sorush20> WorstPhobia: there are meny.. I still haven't found one good enough yet.. what are you backing up to?
[12:47] <ompaul> hd420, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list now - I figure your doing something in that space
[12:47] <cafuego> john: You need to install and use the non-free nvidia drivers. 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> Thanks, thoreauputic.
[12:48] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> sorush20, I'm using VMWare. I would back up my Linux stuff to my Windows host.
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> Then burn it from there.
[12:48] <tod_kon> BLADE RUNNER KILLED MY AUDIO!
[12:48] <y_o_u> hello everyone. trying to install a belkin wirless pci card using the ubuntu wiki as a guide. i am useing the recommended drivers, but it is telling me invalid driver. any ideas?
[12:49] <HurricaneJ> does samba have a user interface or is everything done thourhg the terminal?
[12:49] <Sturgeon> Blame the robots
[12:49] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, no i can only eject with right click, and cdrom button works only when unmount it
[12:49] <I_Am_> how do i view the mbr?
[12:49] <rabbit> Razor-X:  ??
[12:49] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: did you try what i said?
[12:49] <sorush20> WorstPhobia: a little more complicated that I expected.. you can use mondo, or you could use dar.. and if your using kde use kdar
[12:49] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: places ---> network servers
[12:49] <cafuego> I_Am_: dd if=/dev/hda of=- bs=512 count=1 | less
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> Okay.
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> I'm be right back.
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> Reinstalling VMWare.
[12:49] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, can i make to unmount it when i press the button and then to eject?
[12:49] <cafuego> I_Am_: Mind you, that's fully useless.
[12:50] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: I'm sure you can get the desktop environment you are using to stop auto mounting..
[12:50] <hd420> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6283
[12:50] <HurricaneJ> im trying i googled the samba info i did a sudo but when i try to key in my password it wont let me
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: i mean in the desktop
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: you have a "places" menu, right?
[12:50] <Sturgeon> next to "applications"
[12:50] <MiniLinux> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ci6PEO39.html
[12:50] <MiniLinux> uff
[12:50] <HurricaneJ> oyeah i see it
[12:50] <MiniLinux> that is the output
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: go to "network servers" in that menu
[12:51] <rabbit> Razor-X:  not much to see
[12:51] <Sturgeon> and see if it shows "microsoft network" or something
[12:51] <MiniLinux> i'm tring to see a pornovideo bat ......
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> i see windows network
[12:51] <mirak_> [cro] smiley: you can enter "eject" in console
[12:51] <Sturgeon> then go inside
[12:51] <Sturgeon> you're already connected
[12:51] <Sturgeon> you don't need samba
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> ohh man thanks alot
[12:51] <sorush20> MiniLinux: don't watch porn.. http://xxxchurch.com/
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> wooooooo hoooooo
[12:51] <mirak_> [cro] smiley: "eject -t"  to  have the caret returning inside
[12:52] <sethk> sorush20, you attend an x rated church?
[12:52] <sorush20> sethk: just follow the link
[12:52] <HurricaneJ> any mp3 for ubuntu like itunes to handle all my mp3 collection?
[12:52] <hd420> HurricaneJ: xmms, mpg123
[12:52] <cmatheson> HurricaneJ: rythmbox, amarok, etc.
[12:52] <hd420> to name two
[12:52] <Trackilizer> Amarok is awsome
[12:52] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: what environment you using?
[12:53] <sethk> sorush20, I don't feel energetic enough to log into my firewall and disable X site blocking
[12:53] <HurricaneJ> sorush im sorry what do you mean? im a newbie-gnome
[12:53] <HurricaneJ> ubuntu
[12:53] <ompaul> hd420, http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:53] <thoreauputic> !tell hd420 about sources
[12:54] <sorush20> sethk: its about giving up porn.. and also just remember most of the so called stars in porn end up dead or close to dead.. and by watching you are kind of contributing to their death..
[12:54] <ompaul> hd420, your sources are strange there were no line endings in there
[12:54] <thoreauputic> hd420: that list is weird
[12:54] <Epix> nalioth: hello, i was here as Eroick before (aparently im still using my old name on this computer) and I was talking to you about gparted. Well, gparted wont work! I resize and then it just goes back to the original size. It also gives an error about a busy device and says I should reboot, but I have rebooted and there is NO change! Help!
[12:54] <Hikaru79> sorush20 ... what!?
[12:54] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: linux is great you can get it to wear kde or gnome or what every you like..
[12:54] <[cro] smiley> mirak, thx
[12:54] <hd420> well, it was pasted in from Terminal.app
[12:54] <HurricaneJ> cool
[12:54] <nalioth> Epix: use a liveCD
[12:54] <ompaul> hd420, when done - do this >>sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade<< then do this
[12:55] <Epix> nalioth: yep, I am.
[12:55] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: kde is close to windows interms of being easier..
[12:55] <thoreauputic> hd420: terminal.app ? This isn't mac ??
[12:55] <sethk> sorush20, I agree with that.
[12:55] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: use a kde live cd..
[12:55] <nalioth> Epix: install qtparted on your live session
[12:55] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: rythmbox
[12:55] <ompaul> hd420, very strange output
[12:55] <sorush20> sethk: only realized this a few months ago..
[12:55] <I_Am_> if i was to try and recover grub manually after a windows reinstall, how do i tell which hard drive and partitions to use
[12:55] <hd420> I'm on a Mac, my server is Ubuntu, thoreauputic
[12:55] <HurricaneJ> i have ubuntu already installed and configured kde is diffrent isnt it?
[12:56] <I_Am_> i tried to view the /sbin/grub file and i couldn't
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: yes
[12:56] <thoreauputic> hd420: OK i see - you are ssh ed in I suppose ?
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: but you have good apps for gnome
[12:56] <hd420> thoreauputic: precisely
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: go to applications->audio and video and see if you have rythmbox
[12:56] <hd420> the server is 39 miles up the freeway at home
[12:56] <bk> what does this mean, " If you are using scim-1.0.2 as your input method platform, firefox will crash on startup."
[12:56] <jeremywhiting> hi all, what's the best way to try kde in ubuntu? apt-get install kde and cross my fingers? reinstall from scratch with kubuntu?
[12:56] <Hikaru79> bk, scim is a thing for inputting asian text.
[12:56] <ompaul> hd420, that is not an issue :)
[12:56] <HurricaneJ> ubuntu can use gnome and kde right? ok i see rythmbox
[12:57] <Epix> nalioth: how? I cant get online, needs ndiswrapper
[12:57] <Hikaru79> If youd on't know what it is, you're not using it :P
[12:57] <sorush20> I_Am_: kde is just a jacket for linux and the jacket is called Kubuntu.. hence anything that is done in the kde desktop environment starts with a k or has a k in there somewhere..
[12:57] <HurricaneJ> im going to google for skins
[12:57] <bk> alright, thanks hikaru79
[12:57] <thoreauputic> hd420: well, I suggest you get a new sources list and update
[12:57] <wza> !sources
[12:57] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:57] <hd420> ompaul: I should hope not
[12:57] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can have more than one desktop environment with ubuntu.. and you can choose at login time which one you like
[12:57] <I_Am_> sorry i didn't ask about kde or kubuntu
[12:57] <thoreauputic> hd420: any reason you don't want apache2 ?
[12:58] <HurricaneJ> does rythimbox have a pulg in for ipod support or i have to look somewhere else for ipod functionality?
[12:58] <HurricaneJ> sorush ohh i did not know that
[12:58] <ompaul> hd420, apache 1.3. will be dead after the new version of apache comes out
[12:58] <junixonline> jeremywhiting: both are safe
[12:58] <sorush20> I_Am_: do you have a very good idea of what your partition structure was before you messed it up?
[12:58] <jeremywhiting> ok, thanks junixonline
[12:58] <hd420> I'm used to 1.3
[12:58] <Seveas> HurricaneJ, gtkpod, banshee...
[12:58] <hd420> umm... 2.2 is out and 1.3 is still maintained
[12:58] <ompaul> hd420, well it is about to be unsupported if it is not unsupported already
[12:59] <cmatheson> ompaul: no, 1.3 and 2.2 are still cool
[12:59] <ompaul> hd420, I know a core dev for that and support is going down the tubes with the next version at least in his books
[12:59] <hd420> ompaul: it better be supported... most of the companies using Apache (Yahoo, etc.) are still running 1.3
[12:59] <mwe> hd420: there are a lot of apache1 servers around
[12:59] <HurricaneJ> i know i have been asking alot of questions i am loving ubuntu i appreciate all the assitance i been recieving
[12:59] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: remember you can press the tab if you want the irc client your using to guess my name you don't have to type all my name.. its called tab compelet
[12:59] <thoreauputic> start an apache war!
[01:00] <hd420> mwe: I'm not the one claiming apache1.3 is dead, mate
[01:00] <[cro] smiley> is there a way to unmount a cdrom when i press a eject button?
[01:00] <hd420> thoreauputic: if it's good enough for Yahoo and Google, it's good enough for me
[01:00] <mwe> hd420: I just realized after your last sentence
[01:00] <I_Am_> sorush
[01:00] <thoreauputic> hd420: I was kidding
[01:00] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:00] <I_Am_> i haven't messed them yet
[01:00] <I_Am_> i have yet to install windows
[01:00] <I_Am_> i am trying to get everything figured out in advance
[01:01] <mojo_> Is there anyone here good at casting the chicken bones that make Samba work?  I have a working Samba under Dapper F2 AMD64 but I cannot FOR THE LIFE OF ME get it working under Breezy i386 on the same machine.  Any takers?  I have tried copying the smb.conf without luck.  THANKS!
[01:01] <HurricaneJ> sorush what do you recommend for a wireless network manager like windows to see what networks are in my range?
[01:01] <crimsun> HurricaneJ: wifi-radar
[01:01] <I_Am_> sorush20, you still there?
[01:01] <ompaul> anyway first up hd420 you appear to have other issues that should be sorted there first - do this before we go any further >> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade<<
[01:01] <hd420> ompaul: in progress, mate
[01:01] <HurricaneJ> crim can i find that in synoptic?
[01:02] <HurricaneJ> synaptic**
[01:02] <I_Am_> i have saved a copy of my fstab file and emailed it to myself
[01:02] <sorush20> the command iwconfig will help alot..
[01:02] <I_Am_> that should help no?
[01:02] <[cro] smiley> Merry Chrismas all
[01:02] <karl_> could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost
[01:03] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, christmas was 2 days ago...
[01:03] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: marry Happy Jesus Birth day to you to..
[01:03] <fmasi> ei enny one uses skype fine whith ubuntu ?
[01:03] <Seveas> !seen treenaks
[01:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'treenaks', Seveas
[01:03] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: are you using gnome.. ?
[01:03] <HurricaneJ> what is the default destination for music,videos and pictures?
[01:03] <HurricaneJ> rush yes i am ubuntu
[01:03] <Seveas> HurricaneJ, your homedir
[01:03] <Sturgeon> does anyone know a text-mode music player which allows to create playlists and is available for ubuntu? I know orpheus but i can't find it for breezy
[01:03] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: there isn't one you can make one up your self and choose one of the nicest icons out there to make it your own..
[01:03] <Seveas> !info orpheus
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> GUYS
[01:04] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, ?
[01:04] <HurricaneJ> so i have to create the folders myself is not like windows folders are already set
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> big big big news
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Sturgeon: mp3blaster, cplay
[01:04] <Seveas> well, tell us :)
[01:04] <[cro] smiley> Merry Christmas 2 day ago all
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> i finally got my first SATA harddrive for Christmas
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> so now i have a third disk to play with
[01:04] <Seveas> haha
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> where do i download dapper?
[01:04] <karl_> could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost
[01:04] <maskd> once you got sata you dont turn back
[01:04] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: there really is no right or wrong.. you can set the default folder to a differen hard drive or anywhere you like windows is just for people who have no other ambitions with regards to their computer use..
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> i can finally use dapper without worrying that ill fuck something
[01:05] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html
[01:05] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: hi..
[01:05] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: you use bittorrent?  dapper is on www.thepiratebay.org listings (flight 2)
[01:05] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: language
[01:05] <sdfdsfdsfads> join #dsf
[01:05] <ompaul> hd420, we had a presentation from an dev at the linux.ie agm and what he said was 2.3 may be called 3 but 1.x support finishes then
[01:05] <sdfdsfdsfads> join #f
[01:05] <hd420> ompaul: still getting that error
[01:06] <sorush20> sdfdsfdsfads: you forgot the "/"
[01:06] <ompaul> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:06] <ompaul> ah
[01:06] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: and I am still seeding (among others)
[01:06] <fmasi> enny one could help me make my skype whork fine
[01:06] <ompaul> My Mistake
[01:06] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can use kwifi ..
[01:06] <HurricaneJ> yeah i got tired of windows
[01:06] <thoreauputic> ompaul: calm down - all is well ;)
[01:06] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you using gnome?
[01:06] <sethk> fmasi, my skype works.  What problem are you having?
[01:06] <ompaul> hehe
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> sorush20:  what do you mean "language"? isnt it obvious i speak english?
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> yeas i am ubuntu gnome 2.12
[01:07] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[01:07] <ompaul> apokryphos, its okay
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> mojo_:  speak with me in private for a min?
[01:07] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: do swearing
[01:07] <hd420> ompaul: You must have heard incorrectly, mate, Apple, Yahoo, Google, etc. will NOT be upgrading Apache anytime soon, it doesn't matter anyway
[01:07] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: sure
[01:07] <apokryphos> shadeofgrey: language, as in -- don't be profane
[01:07] <apokryphos> that's pretty obvious
[01:07] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you like the colours..
[01:07] <hd420> using 2.0 is not an option for me
[01:07] <ompaul> hd420, they can maintain it themselves
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> the brown is nice
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> i found away to change themes
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> gnome art is what im using
[01:08] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you still not using tab compelete..
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> i want a bootloader but i dont think ubuntu have one
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> sorush what is that?
[01:08] <sorush20> type sor then tab and that is my name..
[01:08] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> im a 1 day old veteran to linux
[01:08] <Epix> nalioth: where can i snag qtparted from?
[01:08] <sorush20> HurricaneJ:
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> yes
[01:09] <apokryphos> Epix: the repos
[01:09] <nalioth> Epix: enable universe and get it with apt-get or synaptic
[01:09] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: type a few letters of my name and then press tab to compelete the rest of my name
[01:09] <karl_> rabbit: if you watch what is happening from synaptic - if it puts the item into a menu, it will tell you where - usually apps/accessories or apps/applications
[01:09] <superchode|fu> finally got ubuntu running on my EPIA board - threw in a voodoo3 PCI video card and i got kicked to a no GUI mode. any help on what to do to get GUI on the voodoo3?
[01:09] <HurricaneJ> sorush20, ok cool
[01:09] <bungle> how do I instal  *.deb file
[01:09] <HurricaneJ> i did it
[01:09] <apokryphos> !deb
[01:09] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:09] <bshumate> rabbit: not all items installed with synaptic make it to that special someplace of the menus... ;-)
[01:09] <john> does anyone know how i can play a dvd in ubuntu
[01:09] <bungle> tah
[01:09] <cimon> I still think ubuntu rocks... Linux window managers will eat each other though...
[01:10] <Tedd|> Can someobyd help me? I'm looking for a good FTP client
[01:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell john about dvd
[01:10] <rabbit> bshumate: then what do you do?
[01:10] <nalioth> Tedd|: gftp
[01:10] <Tedd|> gFTP sucks
[01:10] <ompaul> hd420, your sources should have looked like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6284
[01:10] <sorush20> Epix: bungle you just right click on it in Kubuntu and get it to install..
[01:10] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[01:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[01:10] <ompaul> hd420, they had no carriage returns
[01:10] <rabbit> bshumate:   oh you can edit menus right?  add it yourself?
[01:10] <nalioth> Tedd|: i dont appreciate your attitude. you asked, and i gave you an answer.
[01:10] <lleberg> Installing the base-system or whatever it is in english :=
[01:10] <sorush20> bungle: if your using kubuntu right click and use a menu command..
[01:10] <karl_> rabbit: yes that is another posibility
[01:10] <Epix> sorush20: ... Um, Im on ubuntu live atm.
[01:11] <fraggsta> here's another problem; how the hell do I switch VTs on a Mac running Linux?
[01:11] <lleberg> Copying remaining packages to disc.. i think this went smoothly :P
[01:11] <sorush20> Epix: I'm not sure if you can install anything on there.
[01:11] <Necrosan> Okay
[01:11] <HymnToLife> could anyone tell me how to disable a process starting on bootup ?
[01:11] <Necrosan> It's official
[01:11] <nalioth> Epix: enable universe and get it with your fave pkg manager
[01:11] <Necrosan> PCI Radeon 9250's
[01:11] <bshumate> rabbit: yes you can add a custom application to the menus after locating it using for example, the find and locate commands from the terminal, or searching for it in the file browser.
[01:11] <Tedd|> nalioth: DIdn't know you were replying. I wrote it before I saw it.
[01:11] <Necrosan> DO NOT work with fglrx
[01:11] <fraggsta> I've tried apple+alt+F2, apple+option+F2, etc..
[01:11] <Necrosan> if someone would like to send that to ati
[01:11] <nalioth> sorush20: you can install anyhing you like on the live session
[01:11] <Epix> nalioth: no internet. needs ndiswrapper for wireless
[01:11] <cafuego> fraggsta: alt-F1 through alt-F6, just as per normal.
[01:11] <sorush20> Necrosan: thanks
[01:12] <hd420> doesn't seem to matter, I still get 3 bytes of package updates
[01:12] <nalioth> Epix: Epix then you are out of luck, since at the least you'll need ntfsprogs (preferably qtparted)
[01:12] <rabbit> has anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??
[01:12] <fraggsta> cafuego: just seems to print a bunch of escape codes then do nothing
[01:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> hi there again!
[01:12] <Tedd|> So, does anybody know of a good FTP client other than gFTP?
[01:12] <nalioth> Tedd|: visit packages.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <cafuego> Tedd|: lftp
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: you can do ftp with nautilus (connect to server)
[01:13] <pashaw> Tedd|,    apt-cache search ftp      pick one
[01:13] <rabbit> Tedd|:  is there something wrong with gFTP ?
[01:13] <benplaut> whoa!
[01:13] <Epix> nalioth: crap. how else can I resize? Knoppix has qtparted?
[01:13] <benplaut> Tedd|: you're popular :)
[01:13] <Tedd|> I know :P
[01:13] <sorush20> Necrosan: where did you find that out?
[01:13] <Tedd|> rabbit: It's no FileZilla ;)
[01:13] <HurricaneJ> i just downloaded wifi-radar.gz how do i install it?
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> double clicking it i assume?
[01:14] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: no
[01:14] <john> anyone else get nothing but trouble with cedega time demo?
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> what are the ste?ps needed to accomplish the installation
[01:14] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: rm wifi-radar.gz; sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[01:14] <benplaut> Tedd|: try kasablanca
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> cool
[01:14] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: in every package you download .. there is a readme.. the .gz is just a fompression format..
[01:14] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: You don't need to download tarballs.
[01:14] <ompaul> hd420, it failed on me - then I included for some unknown reason postfix and it worked
[01:14] <benplaut> Tedd|: ftpcube
[01:14] <Tedd|> benplaut: Thanks, I will
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php
[01:14] <john> it was installed but fails the 3d tests, then ubuntu crashed because of something else. Now cedega will not open at all
[01:15] <Necrosan> sorush20: Trying to make one work
[01:15] <ompaul> hd420, this box is _not_ a server
[01:15] <Necrosan> It's a joke
[01:15] <HurricaneJ> so everything is through a sodu?
[01:15] <john> ...after I click start in the cedega splash screen nothing happens
[01:15] <rabbit> has anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??
[01:15] <Necrosan> There's no chance whatsoever, the fglrx drivers dont even have PCI support in them
[01:15] <nalioth> Epix: you can try knoppix, i'm not sure if it has qtparted or not
[01:15] <hd420> ompaul: so?
[01:15] <nalioth> Epix: qtparted calls ntfsprogs btw
[01:15] <pl_ice> hey
[01:15] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: yes.. sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[01:15] <ompaul> thats all
[01:15] <cafuego> And I note there is no fglrx on ppc either.
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> hey guys which dapper do i want flight one or two?
[01:15] <hd420> maybe you're sending to the wrong person, ompaul
[01:15] <cafuego> shadeofgrey: two is newer than one
[01:15] <benplaut> thoreauputic: filezilla is open source?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> benplaut: have a look at the URL i gave above
[01:16] <HurricaneJ> so i know for future reference anyt software i want i do a sudo apt-get install and then type whatever the software name is?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> okay that settles it
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> now
[01:16] <benplaut> thoreauputic: i see...
[01:16] <HurricaneJ> once its done installing how do i activate it?
[01:16] <Necrosan> cafuego: fglrx on ppc would be a simple recompile for ati. ;)
[01:16] <benplaut> i wonder if it can be compiled w/WINE, for a half emulation
[01:16] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: More or less, yes. You can use System -> Administration -> Synaptic for easier management.
[01:16] <sorush20> Necrosan: not funny at all..
[01:17] <synmoo> Question: Any way to fix the console being cut off at the bottom?
[01:17] <cafuego> Necrosan: I doubt it. Knowing ATI their code won't even compile on a non-sactioned gcc.
[01:17] <HurricaneJ> not activate it but where does the software go for me to open it?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> when i install it will it see the other ubuntu install i have and put itself into the copy of grub thats already present or will it overwrite the mbr and make itself the peimary?
[01:17] <ompaul> hd420, it (1.3.33-8) would not install without postfix with postfix it jumped right in and started ... that is all I can say on it
[01:17] <hd420> ahhh
[01:18] <sethk> shadeofgrey, during install, unless you say skip the boot loader, it will cover it up with a new mbr
[01:18] <HurricaneJ> aww man ubuntu rocks
[01:18] <aconbere> is there a decent source of installation documentation?
[01:18] <ompaul> and general users don't need them etc
[01:18] <Necrosan> cafuego: I think it'd work. That's just my opinion though, who knows.
[01:18] <aconbere> a howto... walkthrough, guide?
[01:18] <Necrosan> sorush20: you got a pci radeon?
[01:18] <Necrosan> we should petition to ati and tell them to make non suck ass drivers
[01:18] <benplaut> News Flash: Unsupported, beta, unnofficial linux builds of FileZilla exit!
[01:18] <marc> You guys know the workaround for the WoW mouse issue?
[01:18] <cafuego> Necrosan: Or we could just use nvidia.
[01:19] <marc> Is there another one, other than the normal 2?
[01:19] <ompaul> aconbere, help.ubuntu.com docs.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <aconbere> ompaul: I can find documentation there for Post installation
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> marc,  ive see some env variable ya set,, and some config file ya edit..  in the cedega forums.
[01:19] <albacker> anyone heard about the kernel panic unknown-block(0,0) ??
[01:19] <aconbere> but not a single thing for pre/concurent installation
[01:19] <marc> yea, other than those two
[01:19] <albacker> can anyone help me ?
[01:19] <Necrosan> cafuego: I got an nvidia card for my mac
[01:19] <ompaul> !anyone
[01:19] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:20] <thoreauputic> aconbere: the install CD actually has an install howto on it too, BTW
[01:20] <Necrosan> too bad there's no support for acceleration in linux/ppc
[01:20] <Tedd|> How do I change to a directory with a space in it?
[01:20] <Necrosan> plus id rather use osx than linux, any day =P
[01:20] <sorush20> Necrosan: I have agp.. but I keep getting this error in my log..         (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[01:20] <Tedd|> I have a director called Important Files, should I just rename it?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: use tab compplete
[01:20] <Necrosan> sorush20: weird
[01:20] <Tedd|> (I need to CD into it to run a .deb file)
[01:20] <thoreauputic> *complete
[01:20] <Tedd|> thoreauputic: Thanks
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> marc,  the place to look would be the cedega wow forums
[01:20] <aconbere> thoreauputic: I'm walking a friend through it, he has no OS running at this time.  If there a way for me to access that documentation on line that would probably suffice.
[01:20] <sorush20> Necrosan: must be my motherboard..
[01:20] <marc> I've tried that Dr_Wills
[01:20] <mcjerry> Tedd you could type cd 'directory with space'
[01:20] <Epix> anyone live in ottawa, ON, CA near brittanna who has a knoppix CD for me to bororow? I *really* dont want to download it...
[01:21] <Epix> :P
[01:21] <thoreauputic> aconbere: right - I think help.ubuntu.com should have an install guide (not sure)
[01:21] <superchode|fu> anyone on getting GUI to come up with a voodoo3?
[01:21] <djm62> Epix: try the front of linux magazines in local newsagents
[01:21] <hd420> ompaul: postfix is already installed and at the newest version
[01:21] <superchode|fu> Epix: i'm only 5 or so hours away.... heh
[01:21] <ompaul> Tedd|, unless it is for Ubuntu or you know exactly what your doing then don't go installing any .deb on your box - you would not put toyota parts on a nissan
[01:21] <pl_ice>  u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....
[01:21] <Epix> superchode|fu: quebec? toronto?
[01:21] <superchode|fu> hamilton
[01:22] <Epix> superchode|fu: ah.
[01:22] <Tedd|> ompaul: It's Kasablanca.
[01:22] <Tedd|> The FTP program.
[01:22] <HurricaneJ> im trying to play mp3s do i need t odownload codecs for it? since this is a new install?
[01:22] <aconbere> thoreauputic: it would be nice, but as far as I can tell no such documentation exists, the line I've heard time and time again is that it's so simple it's not needed.
[01:22] <pl_ice>  u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....
[01:22] <john> anyone know a quick way to check that my opengl and 3d acceleration is workin?
[01:22] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: yes you'll need to set your box up
[01:22] <HurricaneJ> im using rythmbox and im trying to stream it from my windows desktop computer
[01:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell HurricaneJ about mp3
[01:22] <aconbere> john: glx-gears?
[01:22] <djm62> john: glxinfo
[01:22] <john> how do I run it?
[01:22] <pl_ice> !ffmpeg
[01:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, pl_ice
[01:22] <ompaul> Tedd|, I know nothing of it I know gftp sftp and ftp
[01:23] <djm62> john: type glxinfo, then enter
[01:23] <ompaul> Tedd|, random car parts do not go in other random cars
[01:23] <Tedd|> How do I install a .deb anyways
[01:23] <Tedd|> ompaul: It's for the KDE.
[01:23] <labandus> i 'm looking for tool for burning DVD'S on Ubuntu
[01:23] <apokryphos> !k3b
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[01:23] <vini> hey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.
[01:23] <djm62> labandus: data DVDs or video DVDs?
[01:23] <Tedd|> ompaul: http://kasablanca.berlios.de/
[01:23] <pl_ice> Tedd| there is a nice command 'apropos' eg. type apropos deb and u gonna find it ...
[01:24] <aconbere> labandus: gnome-toaster, xcdroast, gravedigger, bashburn
[01:24] <labandus> videos dVD djm62
[01:24] <aconbere> k3b
[01:24] <john> so if I get lots of missing on desplays and segmentation fault does that mean 3d is not working?
[01:24] <HurricaneJ> i have some music that i purchased from the itunes store can it be played with any player in linux or am i out of luck in that dpt? plus i have some aac files i probably have to convert them
[01:24] <john> djm62
[01:24] <Necrosan> HurricaneJ: out of luck
[01:24] <djm62> john: yes
[01:24] <djm62> john: try also glxgears
[01:24] <mcjerry> vini: how is the printer connected to you linux box?
[01:24] <vini> hey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.
[01:24] <john> how do I get it working with an nvidia gf6600gt
[01:24] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: if it's KDE - konqueror can also be used for ftp quite easily
[01:24] <vini> usb
[01:25] <john> I installed the nvidia-glx
[01:25] <sorush20> could someone please review my log here and tell me what the hell is happening with the agp initiation http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6285
[01:25] <john> do I need to enable it somehow?
[01:25] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: those files will be encrypted, which won't play encrypted in linux
[01:25] <sally_> anyone install breezy on an acer travelmate?
[01:25] <mcjerry> vini: do you have samba setup?
[01:25] <vini> i think so
[01:25] <aconbere> what's the difference between the two partition options, erase entire disk (disk info) and erase entire disk LBM?
[01:25] <Tedd|> I just want to know how to open/install a .deb file.
[01:25] <j2dope> does anyone know any backport repositories i could use? mine won't update
[01:25] <djm62> john: can't help you, sorry
[01:25] <vini> hold on
[01:25] <ompaul> Tedd|, not the point, if it is not a ubuntu deb for your version it is more than likely not for you, you can do stuff like "dpkg -i foo.deb" but if it breaks do not come crying if it is you can install it using adept  or kynaptic
[01:26] <Epix> something tells me that the knoppix torrent will be faster than the http dl... 198 seeders
[01:26] <john> Anyone here know how to get an nvidia gf 6600gt working?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: sudo dpkg -i <debfile.deb>
[01:26] <HurricaneJ> nalioth im trying to open some mp3 files that are located on my desktop im using rhythmbox but it wont open i did do a sodu for mp3 playback it installed is there a steop im missing?\
[01:26] <vini> mcjerry: i have it installed, just not configured, im not sure how to
[01:26] <ompaul> Tedd|, you most likely want to ask the bot how to install more repos
[01:26] <aconbere> what the heck is LBM
[01:26] <labandus> djm62,  whar do you to propose me
[01:26] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: you've installed gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !tell HurricaneJ about mp3
[01:26] <HurricaneJ> yeah
[01:26] <Tedd|> thoreauputic: THANK YOU. ompaul: I fully understand your concern, thanks. If it breaks the install then I will reformat, or whatever I have to do
[01:27] <Tedd|> ompaul: I know well how to install more repositories, thanks
[01:27] <ompaul> Laboratory of Biological Modeling
[01:27] <mcjerry> vini: pm me, if you arenot registered, register your nick and pm me
[01:27] <john> Anyone know how to enable 3d acceleration in breezy?
[01:27] <djm62> labandus: I suspect k3b will do the job, you might need mencoder to put the video files in the right format
[01:27] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: he's only trying to help - we aren't mind readers :)
[01:27] <aconbere> oooh... LVM
[01:27] <Tedd|> I know. Thanks.
[01:27] <jamesthebard> john: ATI or nvidia?
[01:27] <john> nvidia
[01:27] <ompaul> linux volume management
[01:28] <john> gf 6600gt
[01:28] <sally_> does anyone use flight 2 as their everyday machine?  I can't get breezy working on my laptop and am thinking of trying it out
[01:28] <labandus> djm62,  i do'nt have  k3b
[01:28] <ompaul> s/linux/logical
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Logical Volume Management I think
[01:28] <thoreauputic> yup
[01:28] <j2dope> well could someone tell me how to upgrade to firefox 1.5 please?
[01:28] <labandus> djm62,  isn't there another tool for burning
[01:28] <john> jamesthebard, any idea?
[01:29] <lleberg> Feels good to get a nice fresh start with my computer, new motherboard and format of the disk..
[01:29] <aconbere> thoreauputic: why would one want to use that? over say, just starting the install without it?
[01:29] <lleberg> and then installing the best OS, without doing anything illegal ;)
[01:29] <apokryphos> j2dope: ther'es an entry about it on the wiki
[01:29] <rabbit> j2dope: I was told you sholdn't do it..  there's a help page somewhere about that
[01:29] <thoreauputic> aconbere: basically if you don't know, you don't need it :)
[01:29] <jamesthebard> Yep.
[01:29] <jamesthebard> john: Yep.
[01:29] <j2dope> hrrrm.. i need the DOM inspector installed. and synaptic won't let me install it
[01:29] <pashaw> !tell john about nvidia
[01:30] <KenMasters> a ver
[01:30] <KenMasters> alguien habla espaol?
[01:30] <apokryphos> !es
[01:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:30] <KenMasters> well
[01:30] <mcjerry> vini: google howto samba usb share printer... you need to configure samba correctly and restart samba
[01:30] <thoreauputic> firefox 1.5 ->>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:31] <vini> ok ill try that and then come back. thanks
[01:31] <KenMasters> ./dev/videoXX no exist
[01:32] <thales> hello
[01:32] <KenMasters> root@kendatos:~/spca5xx-20051212# lsusb
[01:32] <KenMasters> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:32] <KenMasters> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd
[01:32] <pashaw> !pastebin
[01:32] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:32] <mcjerry> vini: am leaving work will be home in a bit. pm me if you need me, i'll check when i get there
[01:32] <KenMasters> i install spca5xx
[01:32] <pl_ice> hey, anyone tried xmms with the plugin iTouch for keyboards? my crashes
[01:32] <nalioth> KenMasters: please read the /topic and use a pastebin
[01:32] <KenMasters> ok
[01:32] <HurricaneJ> can i do a sudo for amarok or do i need to download it from the website i was told it has full ipod support
[01:33] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[01:33] <ubotu> I heard amarok 1.3.7 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[01:33] <Jemt> Greetings. I have a minor problem with Xorg. Every time I logoff and log back into Gnome og Fluxbox, the resolution is set to the maximum allowed resolution (and by that 60 Hz). I just want it to run in 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz. How can i "hard code" this into a configuration file so it won't change back again?
[01:34] <cmatheson> Jemt: remove the resolutions you don't want from your xorg.conf
[01:34] <lleberg> After installing, my computer wint let me have picture in X, terminal works great though
[01:35] <EddieDaMan> hi apokryphos, how do i know if ubuntu5.10 recognizes my graphics card?
[01:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EddieDaMan about hardware
[01:35] <KenMasters> please check my problem
[01:35] <KenMasters> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6286
[01:35] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[01:35] <Jemt> cmatheson: Then I can't choose the correct monitor frequenzy
[01:35] <Aquatopia> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, the only cdrom I have is a bit broken, but I'm able to start the setup but as soon as it starts installing stuff it dies. Can I install of the internet as is possible with debian?
[01:36] <sorush20> !xfree86-dga
[01:36] <ubotu> sorush20: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:36] <HurricaneJ> is there a dock for ubuntu that i can use instead of the bottom panel to see what windows are open? i have searched but have not found any info on it
[01:36] <apokryphos> !tell Aquatopia about install
[01:36] <Jemt> Aquatopia: You might get lucky with a 'server' install - after that you can install the rest from the internet.
[01:36] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, thanks :)
[01:36] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: popular kde ones, at least, are kxdocker, ksmoothdock, and kooldock
[01:36] <john> oh poo, i have killed ubuntu, i enabled the nvidia drivers and got blue screen saying "failed to start x server" on boot....any ideas chaps? please help :(
[01:36] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can just move the bar..
[01:36] <Jemt> HurricaneJ: Can recommend ksmoothdock
[01:36] <sorush20> guys what is  sudo fglrxconfig
[01:37] <HurricaneJ> im on ubuntu gnome 2.12 will they work on what i have?
[01:37] <apokryphos> yes
[01:37] <thales> i hate gnome
[01:37] <thales> =/
[01:38] <apokryphos> thales: congratulations, but no trolling here please.
[01:38] <john> please someone help :(
[01:39] <apokryphos> john: (i) you have an nvidia card? (ii) you installed nvidia-glx (presuming you have a newish one), (iii) you enabled it in xorg.conf?
[01:39] <john> no
[01:39] <john> i used a command in terminal
[01:39] <apokryphos> ...config enable?
[01:39] <john> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:39] <apokryphos> yup, that's the same
[01:40] <john> ah ok
[01:40] <foampeace> hello, what is a good linux game site
[01:40] <HurricaneJ> wow i just found disks and i ubuntu took like 10gbs + to install i have a 8-gb harddrive and i only have lik 65.41 left
[01:40] <john> well i did that now i have this blue screen with failed x server onboot
[01:40] <apokryphos> john: sometimes it helps to do a full reconfigure. Try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:40] <john> should  i disable config?
[01:40] <ptlo> hmm...how can I reinstall a package? (for examplke, if I've damaged some of the files from it) using apt-get ?
[01:40] <mwe> !tell foampeace about games
[01:40] <mwe> foampeace: and happypenguin.org
[01:40] <Davey`> ptlo: apt-get install --reinstall PKG
[01:41] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't have to... let's go with the above.
[01:41] <foampeace> mwe: ya im at happypenguin...i did a google search..wonder if people know some other good ones
[01:41] <ptlo> Davey`: thanks
[01:41] <mwe> foampeace: look at what ubotu told you
[01:41] <Davey`> ptlo: :)
[01:41] <mwe> !games
[01:41] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[01:42] <foampeace> mwe: oh right thanks
[01:42] <pl_ice> !panadol
[01:42] <ubotu> No idea, pl_ice
[01:42] <pl_ice> :/
[01:42] <vini12341234> hey i followed the directions, and xp wants a username and password to connect
[01:42] <HurricaneJ> i downloaded amarok so i dont need rhyhtmbox how can i delete software? and some games i wont be using to clear space
[01:42] <john> apokryphos, ok done that bud, now im at my prompt
[01:42] <woyceck> hello. does anybody known how i could automatical switch to suspend by closing the labtop
[01:42] <foampeace> mwe: i like those small games like vultureseye and labrynth
[01:42] <john> how do i run gnome?
[01:42] <ZeroIRC> !cd burner
[01:43] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ZeroIRC
[01:43] <foampeace> john : gnome-session?
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> !cdburner
[01:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, ZeroIRC
[01:43] <apokryphos> john: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> lol
[01:43] <john> apokryphos ok
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> !cd
[01:43] <ubotu> ZeroIRC: Wish i knew
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> lol, ubotu don't like me
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> What is the CD burner on Ubuntu?
[01:43] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: try asking a human
[01:43] <Knowerrors> Hey all looking to modifiy/add to this command dd if=/dev/dvd of=/pub/export/nameofthedvd.iso and make a script that will automatically grab the name of the dvd and use it for the iso name, any ideas?
[01:43] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: you can use many. gnomebaker, graveman, cdroast
[01:43] <john> apokryphos, hmm now my monitor cant display the screen
[01:44] <ZeroIRC> nalioth, thanks
[01:44] <john> i can hear that it has booted ok tho
[01:44] <pl_ice> !nalioth xmms+ itouch
[01:44] <ubotu> pl_ice: Syntax error in line 1
[01:44] <mwe> foampeace: yeah. tried apt-cache search game too?
[01:44] <john> apokryphosi heard the log in
[01:44] <pl_ice> heehee
[01:44] <apokryphos> john: perhaps you put a resolution that was out of range?
[01:44] <foampeace> anyone played any good small linux games lately tghat are free?
[01:44] <john> so i guess some monitor settings r wrong
[01:44] <john> i put the right res
[01:44] <mwe> foampeace: frozen-bubble is fun
[01:44] <Aviatrixie> good evening from Neville Island :)
[01:44] <john> could be refresh rate as i set to simple setup so it has auto chosen wrong one
[01:44] <apokryphos> john: refresh rate, too?
[01:45] <pl_ice> any one uses xmms and itouch plugin? ....
[01:45] <john> the res is ok
[01:45] <john> i think
[01:45] <john> how do i do this
[01:45] <fraggsta> I'm partial to the odd game of XMoto :)
[01:45] <apokryphos> john: better go for "medium"
[01:45] <john> recovery mode?
[01:45] <apokryphos> john: press ctrl+alt+f1
[01:45] <john> will that reboot?
[01:45] <apokryphos> does it take you to a bash login?
[01:45] <apokryphos> nope
[01:46] <HurricaneJ> can anybody tell me how to remove unwanted software and games to clear harddrive space?
[01:46] <john> still no display
[01:46] <john> should I power off?
[01:46] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: from synaptic
[01:46] <vini12341234> hey guys, what is the user name and password to log onto ubuntu through XP and network neighborhood?
[01:46] <apokryphos> john: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:46] <Aviatrixie> ?
[01:46] <john> apokryphos, still no display
[01:46] <apokryphos> ok, go for a reset then
[01:46] <john> i think i need recovery and do what you said again
[01:46] <fraggsta> vini12341234: use the username and password you normally log into the Ubuntu machine with
[01:47] <HurricaneJ> when i go to synaptic what do i look for?
[01:47] <apokryphos> joh: ctrl+alt+f1 really should've worked though, hmm...
[01:47] <john> apokryphos recovery yeah?
[01:47] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: the package you want to remove
[01:47] <vini12341234> i tried that and it changes the name to LAPTOP\vini
[01:47] <apokryphos> john: sure, why not
[01:47] <dragonbyte> how do I control what resources yenta comes up using?
[01:47] <john> apokryphos, ok booting, youre a very patient chilled person
[01:47] <dragonbyte> i have a ze4145 laptop and pcmcia starting up on the wrong irqs cause kernel panics
[01:47] <john> apokryphos thanks
[01:47] <HurricaneJ> ok the ones with the ubuntu logo are the ones installed on my computer right?
[01:48] <apokryphos> john: no problem -- we're here to help. :)
[01:48] <dragonbyte> I had this fixed once, but I did a fresh ubuntu install and forgot to save config.opts
[01:48] <rikai> is it just me, or is ubuntuforums.org really slow all of a sudden?
[01:48] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: You can sort them by installed status
[01:48] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: See the buttons down the bottom right
[01:48] <john> ok
[01:48] <danfredr> Heisan
[01:48] <john> so do reconfigure ya?
[01:48] <denial> alles klar
[01:48] <denial> ?
[01:49] <HurricaneJ> i dont have buttons on the bottom right on the left handside i do
[01:49] <cafuego> Keine ahnung.
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: yup, you might also want to stop gdm
[01:49] <apokryphos> (if it's running)
[01:49] <john> apokryphos, do reconfigure again?
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:49] <john> ok
[01:49] <denial> what kind of buttons?
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: Oh yes, the other right :-)
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: after you've reconfigured just do a "startx", instead of going through gdm this time.
[01:49] <e-fonz> anyone know a good banking/cashflow/bookkeeping program that easily installs on ubuntu?
[01:49] <HurricaneJ> and i click on status?
[01:50] <dragonbyte> e-fonz: GNUcash
[01:50] <apokryphos> kmymoney2 is meant to be good, too
[01:50] <john> apokryphos, k
[01:50] <denial> how boring...
[01:50] <cafuego> dragonbyte: edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and asdd 'ignore' rules.
[01:50] <HurricaneJ> whoa it says i have usplash isnt this the boot loader?
[01:50] <denial> hasta luego
[01:50] <pashaw> HurricaneJ,   yes  then installed
[01:50] <e-fonz> dragonbyte:Tnx
[01:50] <dragonbyte> cafuego: yeah, thats the hitch, i dont remember what excludes i did to make it work last time
[01:50] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: what makes the startup pretty, yes.
[01:50] <e-fonz> 05apokryphos:Tnx
[01:51] <cafuego> dragonbyte: D'oh! I only know them for my laptop (nx9005)
[01:51] <dragonbyte> cafuego: right now, exclude irq 5 keeps it from blowing up (which is the irq yenta is sitting on), but it doesnt do anything
[01:51] <john> apokryphos, im getting "xserver-org is not installed"
[01:51] <HurricaneJ> how do i configure it? i did not know i had it
[01:51] <e-fonz> apokryphos:Tnx
[01:51] <dragonbyte> cafuego: I want to say I had yenta itself on irq 11 somehow
[01:51] <apokryphos> john: missed the x before the org
[01:51] <john> apokryphos, silly me
[01:51] <apokryphos> e-fonz: for? ;-)
[01:51] <cafuego> dragonbyte: You might be able to do that via /etc/modprobe.d/*  (check 'modinfo yenta_socket' and see if you can feed it an irq= param)
[01:52] <e-fonz> kmymoney2??????????/
[01:52] <dragonbyte> cafuego: hrm...god I wish I remembered how I did this :(
[01:52] <apokryphos> e-fonz: whoops, oh yes, sorry.
[01:52] <sorush20> how do I check if my agp is working properly..
[01:52] <e-fonz> apokryphos: :)
[01:53] <apokryphos> sorush20: use it?
[01:53] <john> apokryphos, rebooting
[01:53] <dragonbyte> cafuego: doesnt look like it :(
[01:53] <john> apokryphos,  fingers crossed
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: wait, no need :)
[01:54] <bobcat> Hi everyone.  i just bought and ipod and installed gtkpod to upload music to it; however, i don't think it supports photos..  does anyone know what app will?
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: you can just startx now
[01:54] <john> apokryphos, even from recovery mode?
[01:54] <pl_ice> can i ask for easy help with ffmpeg? ...
[01:54] <Aviatrixie> I recently migrated from M$ to Linux and love it. I also recently switched from dial-up to DSL and loving that too. I was offered a Westell wireless router for only an additional on time charge of $15us so I took it. I have not yet installed any wireless devices, yet the wireless led on the router constantly blinks. My googles indicate that means a neighbor is accessing my ISP. Further Gooling indicates I need to block that f
[01:54] <Aviatrixie> or security and to prevent reduction of bandwidth and to utilize encryption for security purposes. Since I have removed Windows entirely from my HD and MY ISP (Verizon) does not support Linux, how do I do that? A link to a howto will suffice.  :)
[01:54] <pashaw> john,   yes
[01:54] <john> ah ok well i rebooted now
[01:54] <john> know for future
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: yup, even from there.
[01:54] <john> apokryphos, have display now...phew
[01:55] <e-fonz> apokryphos: installing kmymoney now, tnx a lot! gonna try GNUcash later!
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: this apparently is a very well known issue too
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: all over google
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, ok, so what do I do now to prevent the whole blue screen, x
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: but cant seem to find anyone who fixed it
[01:55] <Blippe> homework is just a theory and should not be taught in school!
[01:55] <apokryphos> john: at the command prompt now?
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, should i reintall the nvidia drivers?
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: makes me feel a little special that I did it once, but boy does it suck not remembering how I did it
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, yes
[01:56] <apokryphos> john: no point in reinstalling; clarify that they are, though...... dpkg -l|grep nvidia-glx ?
[01:56] <HurricaneJ> amarok & ipod what else do i need to download to make it read it
[01:56] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   youll need to read your router manual  and enable  WEP   and/or    mac filtering
[01:56] <pl_ice> pls put ur hand up if u know how to use ffmpeg
[01:56] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: the ipod? That's it.
[01:56] <ITSa341> who here is familiar with Win98 .dll files?
[01:56] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   either will stop the casual neighbor using it
[01:57] <john> apokryphos, is that a pipe or a j?
[01:57] <apokryphos> pipe
[01:57] <ITSa341> anyone remember where wsock32.dll went in Win98??
[01:57] <john> apokryphos, know how to get one on a gb keyboard? i see the key, what do i press with it?
[01:58] <Evil_Whisper> hi apokryphos
[01:58] <HurricaneJ> earlier i configured my wireless network but the light on my computer showing that wifi is on is not displaying the blue led it usually did what do i need to download to make it work?
[01:58] <apokryphos> john: shift+ \   ...for me
[01:58] <apokryphos> aloha, Evil_Whisper
[01:58] <pl_ice> ITSa341 must be in command or straight into windows dir
[01:58] <john> apokryphos, thats the one
[01:58] <ITSa341> I can get AOL to load but it gives me a missing wsock32.dll error when trying to connect
[01:59] <john> apokryphos, ok i got 3 readouts
[01:59] <dragonbyte> cafuego: where would I add "pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket" in ubuntu?
[01:59] <apokryphos> john: interesting; what's the first column entry in each one?
[01:59] <john> apokryphos, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[01:59] <pashaw> ITSa341,   #windows   would be abetter place for that question
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: that might well be your problem :)
[02:00] <cafuego> john: Not both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy. Pick one of them, they are mutually exclusive.
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: I thought nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx conflicted, but I guess not
[02:00] <john> apokryphos, i want rid of legacy and dev right?
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: what nvidia card is it?
[02:00] <john> gf6600gt
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: get rid of the legacy stuff then
[02:00] <mojo_> FLASH!  Samba now incorporates integration with entropy!  Chicken bones and tea leaves will be implemented as primary status monitoring angents  ;)
[02:00] <john> apokryphos, know the commands in terminal?
[02:01] <meepy> How do I installa Metacity theme? Like installing any other GTK theme, by drag n drop it into the "Themes" application?
[02:01] <apokryphos> john: sudo apt-get remove package1 package2
[02:01] <POORtland> anyone editing audio with ubuntu?
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah meepy
[02:01] <meepy> Thanks
[02:02] <Necrosan> POORtland: get a mac for that
[02:02] <Necrosan> :)
[02:02] <Necrosan> POORtland: http://www.necrosan.com/newcompsetup.jpg
[02:02] <Aviatrixie> Gawd... I'm such a newbie!  LOL  I just tried to PM you (via DCC), Pashaw and it didn't work. What is WEP?
[02:02] <Necrosan> Aviatrixie: Wireless Encryption Protocol
[02:02] <Necrosan> i think
[02:03] <POORtland> u do necro?
[02:03] <mojo_> WEP = Wireless Encryption Protocol, no?
[02:03] <john> apokryphos, says theyre not installed?
[02:03] <crouton> si
[02:03] <dragonbyte> mojo_: We Eat People
[02:03] <sklav> Hi Guys
[02:03] <flashback|afk> hi
[02:03] <mojo_> dragonbyte: o, i c
[02:03] <sklav> anybody use dfs before?
[02:03] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   basic wireless security     read the manual  it should walk you through it
[02:03] <apokryphos> john: doesn't sound right. They wouldn't come up in dpkg -l if that was the case...
[02:04] <flashback> anyone using ubuntu in vmware
[02:04] <sklav> what up apokryphos
[02:04] <Necrosan> POORtland: nah, i use a mac
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, there is an rc next to them instead of ii in the grep thing
[02:04] <POORtland> oh
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, they were installed as I insalled them accidentally before
[02:04] <POORtland> well whats this os good for?
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, should i try enabling glx again?
[02:04] <apokryphos> sklav: heyhey; all good. You?
[02:04] <mojo_> POORtland: Gaming, of course!!
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, or do you think it will all go pear shaped again?
[02:04] <sklav> pretty good
[02:05] <flashback> what is standaard root password in ubuntu vmware image
[02:05] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't be necessary. Do a cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep nvidia
[02:05] <john> apokryphos, or should I remove nvidia-glx and then reinstall?
[02:05] <POORtland> really?
[02:05] <POORtland> can u play pc games on it?
[02:05] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't be necesssary, nope.
[02:05] <crazney> heya.. i just upgraded my kernel to dapper's 2.6.15-9-686 and for some reason on boot, after the kernel is loaded, it says 'ALERT! /dev/hde1 does not exist. Dropping to shell!'. works fine with previous kernels.. in the shell, i checked and there only seems to be /dev/hdb1 (cdrom).. i'm guessing the new kernel somehow probes for devices and doesn't find my hdd, which is on an hpt366 controller?
[02:05] <john> apokryphos, ok done that
[02:05] <mojo_> POORtland: no, not really.  Unless you count Id software and MAME
[02:06] <POORtland> so thats what this is good for?
[02:06] <apokryphos> john: output?
[02:06] <POORtland> id software and games?
[02:06] <john> apokryphos, nothing at all, just gos back to $
[02:06] <john> goes
[02:06] <pashaw> POORtland,    google linux + cool stuff
[02:06] <POORtland> what about like running a server w/it any advantages over xp?
[02:06] <xjlittle> hi all..I just installed ubuntu server, but can't seem to get apache to start using sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:06] <dragonbyte> what replaced modules.conf in ubuntu?
[02:07] <jamesthebard> POORtland: Makes a great server.
[02:07] <apokryphos> john: you didn't select "nvidia", then, when you did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <Aviatrixie> Pashaw... I've never used wireless before. I am surrounded by close neighbors though. Does a blinking wireless light on my router mean someone is hijacking my service?
[02:07] <cafuego> dragonbyte: /etc/modprobe.d/*
[02:07] <mojo_> POORtland: Id software supports Linux, releases clients for their games.  Unreal Tournament 2004 (and supposedly the next one) supports Linux too.
[02:07] <pashaw> POORtland, too many advantages you should google it
[02:07] <apokryphos> john: perhaps did you select "nv"
[02:07] <apokryphos> (not the same)
[02:07] <sethk> crazney, I've noticed that with some new shell versions, things become /dev/sdX that used to be /dev/hdX
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> what is up peoples?
[02:07] <dragonbyte> cafuego: where would I put the preinstall thing?
[02:07] <dragonbyte> "pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket"
[02:07] <cafuego> sethk: That has nothing to do with shells.
[02:07] <john> apokryphos, yes I selected the default....nv
[02:07] <sklav> POORtland, why did you come to ubuntu any specific question? or just bored of your current OS?
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> dang... lol imma have to change my name back to humbled...
[02:07] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   dont panic  likely all they are doing is reading CNN and nudies at night big deal         but to stop them enable basic security = WEP
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> oh well
[02:07] <john> apokryphos,  i made a boo boo huh?
[02:07] <POORtland> yea
[02:07] <sethk> crazney, because SATA chipsets are fully supported when before they were only supported in compatibility mode
[02:07] <POORtland> xp
[02:07] <cafuego> dragonbyte: Any file there (create one called yenta maybe)
[02:07] <xjlittle> can anyone give me any ideas about why it won't start?
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> hey got another question
[02:07] <mojo_> POORtland: but there are truly not many games out.  MAME is the multi-arcade-machine-emulator that emulates all the old ardcade hardware.  you have to find ROMS out there though
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, his question has nothing to do with shells
[02:08] <sklav> POORtland, so which part of XP annoys you?
[02:08] <john> apokryphos, can i reconfigure from here?
[02:08] <cafuego> sethk: Then why did you mention shell versions? ;-)
[02:08] <apokryphos> john: nv is the freeformats one. nvidia is what you want though
[02:08] <crazney> sethk: hrm. it's a rather old motherboard / controller.. do you think it could be being mistaken as sdX?
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, I didn't
[02:08] <no_so_sudo_smart> i did an apt-get install wine and it installed it but i cant seem to find it on my box... any ideas where it is located and how to put it in my applications list?
[02:08] <sklav> and maybe we can tell you of Ubuntu benefits
[02:08] <dragonbyte> cafuego: can I just create a file there?
[02:08] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:08] <apokryphos> john: sure
[02:08] <cafuego> sethk: Yes, you really did.
[02:08] <sethk> crazney, if it is old it doesn't sound likely.
[02:08] <john> apokryphos,  i see
[02:08] <dragonbyte> cafuego: does it read through everything in that dir?
[02:08] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:08] <POORtland> well i've heard that file transfers and internet stuff is faster on a linux box
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, I meant to say kernel versions.  I think that's what I said.
[02:08] <crazney> sethk: yeah.. and there aren't any /dev/sd* there anyhow
[02:08] <cafuego> dragonbyte: Yes, and it generates a new modules.conf from those files.
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: (in busybox or whatever that shell it dropped me to is)
[02:09] <sethk> crazney, in that case, definitely not
[02:09] <POORtland> i send alot of large audio and video files to friends and family
[02:09] <cafuego> sethk: No, you said shell, hence my  note.
[02:09] <sklav> POORtland, you are somewhat correct Networking is better on linux
[02:09] <pashaw> !tell no_so_sudo_smart about wine
[02:09] <mojo_> POORtland: better question is what do you hope to get out of a distro, and start from there.  That will help make it easier to decide if Ubuntu meets your requirements or not. It is, after all, a general purpos OS good for lots of things
[02:09] <sethk> crazney, could it be the "offboard ide first" flag?
[02:09] <POORtland> xp seems like it gets bogged down
[02:09] <sethk> cafuego, ok, I believe you
[02:09] <no_so_sudo_smart> ahh pashaw... hows it going ole buddy
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: what's that?
[02:09] <dragonbyte> cafuego: ok well here it goes I guess
[02:09] <foampeace> how can you make deborphan execute after apt-get
[02:09] <xjlittle> can anyone help me with apache?
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <sklav> POORtland, you copuld setup a server or an ftp server to allow people to connect and get them
[02:09] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   no idea who you are  diff nick id guess
[02:09] <foampeace> i mean debfoster
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: even though the controller is on the mobo i think it is treated as an offboard one..
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <no_so_sudo_smart> its been a day since ive done a chmod... its tough but im just taking it one day at a time
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, to get to hde, you need the extra IDE controller
[02:10] <cafuego> flashback: Stop spamming.
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> oh
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, offboard is a misnomer
[02:10] <sklav> POORtland, linux " Ubuntu is built from the ground up to be a networking OS
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> yeah thats right i changed it again
[02:10] <sklav> windows was not
[02:10] <crazney> sethk: extra ide controller?
[02:10] <foampeace> how do you make debfoster execute after an apt-get or dpkg ?
[02:10] <Linfan> i have a question when i first installed ubuntu this boot screen came on but now all i see is text how can i make it go back to bootscreen
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> well the chmod should have clued you in on who i was lol
[02:10] <john> apokryphos, ok all reconfigured
[02:10] <hawking> what is the package that has the X window system header files and libraries?
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, I know there are a couple of Asus mobo's the have the "offboard" ide onboard.  Really the extra, yes.
[02:10] <sorush20> is there a great difference between xserver-xorg and xserver-xfree86?
[02:10] <foampeace> cd /etc/apt/
[02:10] <flashback> nobody knows it
[02:10] <foampeace> ls
[02:10] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   ahh     yeah   good to see your still learning
[02:10] <apokryphos> john: cross your fingers and hit "startx"
[02:10] <cafuego> sorush20: Yes.
[02:10] <Aviatrixie> Thanks Pashaw. :) One last question... your messages to me are browm but everyone else is blue. Does this mean you are PMing me or is it just something else? I'm totally new to this venue. I assume this is IRC. (I used IRC a few times on WebTV a few years ago)
[02:10] <apokryphos> john: though first make sure gdm isn't running
[02:10] <crazney> sethk: i'm not sure what you mean..
[02:10] <POORtland> well i have 2.67ghz 256 mb ram kickn round
[02:10] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   im typing your name
[02:11] <Linfan> is there a task manager for ubuntu?
[02:11] <Aviatrixie> ok... ty pashaw  :)
[02:11] <no_so_sudo_smart> well ive had linux on my comp now for 2 weeks.. and i can tell everyone what not to do with it
[02:11] <sethk> crazney, there are two kernel compile options about the extra ide controller
[02:11] <Linfan> i want to se how much memory im using
[02:11] <john> apokryphos, im already in x
[02:11] <sklav> john, try alt+F7
[02:11] <sklav> if in doubt
[02:11] <Determinist> Linfan, gnome-system-manager
[02:11] <sklav> hehe
[02:11] <cafuego> Linfan: yes, there is. Check the Applications -> System Tool menu.
[02:11] <sethk> crazney, one says to use it, and the other tells the kernel which of the ide controllers should be hda,b,c,d, and which should be hde, etc.
[02:11] <no_so_sudo_smart> but thats ok cuz sooner or later i will run out of problems to run into
[02:11] <Determinist> Linfan, system-monitor, sorry
[02:11] <apokryphos> john: ohh.. but in a failsafe terminal, or in gnome or something?
[02:11] <crazney> sethk: ah right
[02:11] <toya__> hey my grub's meny.lst suddenly removed my windows xp
[02:11] <POORtland> kinda wanna setup like a network thing where i can either access it from a xp comp or others via internet
[02:12] <crazney> sethk: well.. this is a precompiled ubuntu kernel
[02:12] <toya__> can anyone help me?
[02:12] <no_so_sudo_smart> just getting the major "opps" 's out of the way now
[02:12] <apokryphos> john: heh. Just logout of that and restart X, then (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[02:12] <selinium> Aviatrixie, if you type the nickname it changes colour, and maybe beeps depending on your setup
[02:12] <Linfan> i dont see system monitor
[02:12] <crazney> although previous ones worked fine.. so i'm guessing it's something that has changed in the kernel config.
[02:12] <POORtland> put like 500gigs in it
[02:12] <sklav> POORtland, you want to run services by the souns of it
[02:12] <sklav> look into apache and vsftpd
[02:12] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   your spamming the people that need help off the screen :(     good to see you though
[02:12] <Aviatrixie> good news... I convinced my father (75 years old) to switch to Ubuntu. I'm going to install it and show him how to use it. His XP is history.  ;)
[02:12] <sethk> crazney, but a different version.  It may not be related to that, but I have seen exactly that behavior when those kernel options were set differently.
[02:12] <sklav> apache = webserver vsftp is an ftp server
[02:12] <selinium> hi apokryphos, meery Christmas and a happy new year! Sorry it's a bit late....
[02:12] <Aviatrixie> Thanks selinium
[02:13] <john> apokryphos, will it be ok that i did the reconfigure in full gnome?
[02:13] <apokryphos> selinium: no worries. Happy belated to you too :)
[02:13] <crazney> sethk: right..
[02:13] <Linfan> is it a good idea to de-activate computer activity?
[02:13] <apokryphos> john: no problem
[02:13] <sklav> john it should be ok
[02:13] <crazney> sethk: and i guess you don't know any way of overcoming it short of compiling my own?
[02:13] <POORtland> so how should i go about this
[02:13] <mojo_> Linfan: you can also right-click on a panel (top or bottom stripes), and add to panel and choose the system monitor.  It will give you colorful graphs running there all the time for cpu, disk, memory, swap, and load.  you can config which meters show.
[02:13] <POORtland> skalv can i pm?
[02:13] <sklav> well u need to install ubuntu
[02:13] <sethk> crazney, no, but since it may not be related to that at all, the first thing to do is check it out.
[02:13] <john> apokryphos, and to restart x?
[02:13] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   dont do that till you are experienced enough to fix it for him      you might leave him hanging
[02:13] <foampeace> hello, how do you make debfoster run after apt-get or dpkg?
[02:13] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, can I somehow from the install cd, pick to install from the internet rather than using the packages on the cd?
[02:13] <sklav> sure POORtland
[02:13] <selinium> Aviatrixie, no problems! Just as an aside, if you type the first few letter of a nick and hit the TAB key, it auto completes it for you!
[02:13] <sklav> pm me
[02:14] <crazney> sethk: to check it out means i need to build my own?
[02:14] <Aviatrixie> I spent 3 hours today updating dad's virus defs, windows updates, adaware defs, running scans... it's absolutely rediculous.
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: yup. Logout of gnome and ctrl+alt+backspace after
[02:14] <apokryphos> !tell Aquatopia about install
[02:14] <john> apokryphos, k
[02:14] <sethk> crazney, no, in console mode, see if hde is really hda, and v.v.
[02:14] <sklav> ! tell sklav about dfsbuild
[02:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sklav
[02:14] <john> apokryphos, failed to start the x server
[02:14] <sethk> crazney, if fdisk is available, you can use fdisk -l to do that
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: what's the error?
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: btw, you're on breezy, right?
[02:15] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, I just read that and it has nothing on what I'm asking about. I know how to do a netboot, which this network card is unable to do.
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: but for that i need to boot into that kernel, which i can't do
[02:15] <selinium> Aviatrixie, does your father use the internet for anything other than internet, document stuff?
[02:15] <purpleheart_USMC> can someone telll me where i can find a list of linux compatable hardware?
[02:15] <sethk> crazney, you said you boot the kernel and it drops you into a shell
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: and changing the root=/dev/hde1 to root=/dev/hda1 doesn't work
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: well yeah,
[02:15] <john> apokryphos, yeah.....when i go to diagnose it says fatal server error: no screens found
[02:15] <apokryphos> Aquatopia: you unfortunately can't do one just like debian's (I think they're hoping for that to be possible in the future). The only other install options are listed there.
[02:15] <crazney> it loads the kernel, then i guess when the kernel tries to moun the fs or something
[02:15] <crazney> *mount
[02:15] <Linfan> in memory and swap it says user memory of 725.5 does that mean it is only using 217mb of my ram? also any reason why my cpu is running at 22%
[02:15] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, ok, thank you
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, right.
[02:16] <DRAGON_Ultra> you all can go back to windows if this linux stuff is to hard for you lol
[02:16] <apokryphos> john: curious. It'd often say that if it didn't configure X appropriately (or one of the three first things I mentioned wasn't in place).
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, really there are only two possibilities, either it has a problem with the IDE hardware, or with the file system type
[02:16] <crazney> sethk: and in that shell, the only /dev/hd* that exists is /dev/hdb which is the cdrom
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, the only one that exists, or the only one that is mounted?
[02:16] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... I'm a recently medically retired airline pilot (big jets), former vice president of the Pittsburgh Users Group, and familiar with Windows, Mac, and a bunch of older OS's, starting with the TI99. I love PC's, but I'm an absolute Linux newb. I am a quick study tho.  ;)
[02:16] <john> apokryphos, what were the first things u mentioned?
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, although, either way, it is finding the ide hardware
[02:16] <crazney> sethk: the only one that has a device file
[02:17] <crazney> the cdrom is connected to the other ide controller
[02:17] <Fred> is there a way i can clear the dns cache on my system?
[02:17] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   youll have alot of fun then  for sure
[02:17] <apokryphos> john: (i) no nvidia card set up, (ii) not in xorg.conf file listed, (iii) drivers not installed.
[02:17] <sethk> crazney, if it is hdb, then you know which device is hda to the kernel
[02:17] <Aviatrixie> So I will come here with questions until I understand it all
[02:17] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   good plan
[02:17] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... so far I love everything about linux
[02:17] <sethk> crazney, I think I would try connecting hde to the primary master (hda), and use a root=, and see if it boots
[02:18] <john> apokryphos, its a fairly fresh installation so shall i just cut my losses and reinstall ubuntu?
[02:18] <sethk> crazney, not as a fix, but as a test
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: try a sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[02:18] <crazney> sethk: yeah ok. will try. ta.
[02:18] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: nope, you shouldn't really ever need to reinstall.
[02:18] <flashback> any know vmware
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia ?
[02:18] <john> apokryphos, that from the prompt i am left with?
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: sure
[02:19] <mlalkaka> how can i determine what type of RAM is installed on my computer? (e.g. pc2100, pc2700, pc3200, ...)
[02:19] <john> ok its still saying that it has no legacy or legacy dev installed
[02:19] <crouton> mlalkaka: short of opening it up and taking a peek?
[02:19] <dragonbyte> cafuego: no go...didn't work...do you know how to get yenta to load before usb?
[02:20] <pashaw> mlalkaka,   likely your bios  will report it
[02:20] <Aviatrixie> pashaw I called Verizon when I signed up last month and told them of my plans to migrate to linux. The seemed oblivious and said they do not support it, but they hear there are workarounds
[02:20] <Razor-X> does anyone here have experience with mpd? (not the disorder)
[02:20] <POORtland> i guess i cant pm u sklav
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: hm, ok, nevermind.
[02:20] <crazney> sethk: well that works (as i expected)
[02:20] <dereks_> does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper
[02:20] <crazney> sethk: so i guess the kernel has problems with my ide controller..
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: pastebin that lspci output if possible
[02:20] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   they ment  dont call them for help is all
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: if you want to get back into gnome with nv (which is good, but no 3d), just edit xorg.conf and switch "nvidia" to "nv"
[02:20] <john> apokryphos, how could i do that without gnome?
[02:20] <sethk> crazney, that's my guess, yes, but you can fix it with a rebuild, so it isn't too terrible.  inconvenient
[02:20] <POORtland> does ubuntu boot from startup?
[02:20] <Aviatrixie> pashaw I figured that
[02:21] <Aviatrixie> so I will come here for help ;)
[02:21] <dragonbyte> anyone know how to get yenta to load before usb in ubuntu?
[02:21] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   DSL right>?
[02:21] <crazney> sethk: yeah, yuck though..
[02:21] <oxez> In which package can I find 'gtkmm.h' ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: libgtkmm2.0-dev
[02:22] <sethk> crazney, put in a report, maybe they'll fix it before the release
[02:22] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, yes... dsl... it's ok, but I'm 2 miles from the nearest co... only pulling 1.5. I'll prolly switch to comcast when the contract is up.
[02:22] <john> apokryphos, think im just going to reinstall, im too much of a windows user for anything else lol
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: you can use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com for things like that
[02:22] <oxez> apokryphos: I already have it installed
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: then you have it
[02:22] <oxez> apokryphos: but g++ keep telling me that <gtkmm.h> doesn't exist
[02:23] <apokryphos> john: it wouldn't really help
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, and install the nvidia drivers fresh and make sure I dont install the wrong ones
[02:23] <no_so_sudo_smart> www.winehq.com
[02:23] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,  nothing wrong with DSL   but good to have choices
[02:23] <crazney> sethk: yeah, about to do that.
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, u dont htink?
[02:23] <mlalkaka> crouton, pashaw: well what are some diagnostic tools that tell me some info on ram?
[02:23] <apokryphos> oxez: ls /usr/include/gtkmm-2.0 ?
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, no harm in trying
[02:23] <apokryphos> john: you'd have to do the same stuff again, really.
[02:24] <crouton> mlalkaka: not sure
[02:24] <Linfan> i downloaded the latest firefox but i dont know how to install it
[02:24] <apokryphos> john: I'm devoutly against reinstalls, but Windoze users do seem to like it 8)
[02:24] <crazney> ok.. another problem.. which i've had before on another computer but i can't rembmer how to fix it.. for some reason ctrl-alt-f1 etc isn't working to change to a console from x..
[02:24] <john> apokryphos,  i would? but I thought my installing the wrong drivers in the first place has caused this
[02:24] <crazney> anyone know about that one?
[02:24] <Linfan> do i need to download it of the terminal or synaptic
[02:24] <no_so_sudo_smart> how do i make an apt-get installed program to be recognized in the applications menu? i tried the applications menu editor but wine isn't in there
[02:24] <oxez> apokryphos: I have it
[02:24] <apokryphos> Linfan: it's a deb?
[02:24] <ITSa341> bbiab, reboot time
[02:24] <Razor-X> Windows users like reboots a lot too :P
[02:24] <pashaw> mlalkaka,   thats not a common task   if bios doesnt report it  youll have to remove them and google the model numbers
[02:24] <Linfan> firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[02:24] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... after 2 decades of dial-up, even 1.5 down is wonderful. But a friend of mine pulls nearly 6.0 down with comcast cable, and she's 15 miles out in the sticks.
[02:24] <john> apokryphos, is there anyway to just rip all of the video drivers out and the x config?
[02:25] <kakei> Razor-X, yes  21:25:03 up 4 days,  8:50,  2 users,  load average: 0.93, 1.31, 1.32
[02:25] <kakei>  :D
[02:25] <john> apokryphos, and set it all up from scratch
[02:25] <apokryphos> Razor-X: while linux users have competitions on uptime ;-)
[02:25] <POORtland> is bittorrent any faster on linux?
[02:25] <Razor-X> apokryphos: we just had one yesterday
[02:25] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB beat my current uptime out of the water
[02:25] <flashback> can anyone help
[02:25] <sklav> john, if not mistaken you can run dpkg --reconfigure xorg
[02:25] <djm62> POORtland: no reason to be
[02:25] <Linfan> i dont know the right command to download firefox
[02:25] <sklav> or something similar to it
[02:25] <apokryphos> john: you can remove that pack (nvidia-glx), and the dpkg-reconfigure  is a full reconfigure of your xorg.conf file, so....
[02:25] <Razor-X> 17:22:36 up 17 days,  5:02,  8 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.11, 0.09
[02:25] <oxez> apokryphos: g++ still tell me that gtkmm.h doesn't exist..
[02:26] <djm62> POORtland: linux can not make the internet itself faster (although some things have been reported to be a bit smoother)
[02:26] <apokryphos> Razor-X: what was the record? A person I saw in #kde still has the record (from what I've seen) with 360 days
[02:26] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... Verizon told me their DSL could pull down up to 3.0 meg download, and promised at least 1.5. I'm at the bottom now.
[02:26] <djm62> 360 days is nowhere near the record....
[02:26] <apokryphos> oxez: hm, annoying. It must be looking for it somewhere else.
[02:26] <Razor-X> djm62: in my experience, TCP is implemented much better in Linux
[02:26] <Razor-X> yeah, it has to be some number of years
[02:26] <apokryphos> djm62: not of all-time, of course -- from waht I've seen on IRC>
[02:26] <john> so if i remove nvidia glx
[02:27] <Razor-X> hah, I'm going at a pathetic 17 days :P
[02:27] <sklav> the most uptime i have heard of is something like a 3 years
[02:27] <john> and re run xserver reconfig
[02:27] <Razor-X> because of that, I refuse to restart to add a PS/2 device
[02:27] <sklav> on linux
[02:27] <djm62> although how uptime works with hardware suspend functions
[02:27] <john> apokryphos, and then install glx again
[02:27] <sklav> and 8 - 10 years on some type of bsd
[02:27] <flashback> f
[02:27] <flashback> f
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <apokryphos> I've heard stories on the internet of several BSD and Linux servers going for a few years, too
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   bummer
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> vv
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <apokryphos> john: yup, that's it.
[02:27] <oxez> apokryphos: oh, nvm, I forgot to add parameters to g++, sorry for wasting your time
[02:27] <djm62> (I'm sure my ipaq went more than a year without being formally rebooted, just suspended every time I wasn't using it)
[02:27] <apokryphos> oxez: no worries
[02:28] <Evil_Whisper> you get that msg apokryphos?
[02:28] <john> apokryphos, do i need to stop gdm?
[02:28] <john> or is that just gnome?
[02:29] <sklav> anybody have a link on how to build my own custom iso of ubuntu?
[02:29] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't need to, but might be a good idea.
[02:30] <sklav> john reboot if your able to
[02:30] <john> apokryphos, im in with nv
[02:30] <john> apokryphos, so i install glx again
[02:30] <sklav> yes john
[02:30] <sklav> and then make sure to run sudo nvidia-glx enable on a command line
[02:31] <pashaw> sklav,   linux format magazine   LFX74   christmas issue has a Build your own Howto
[02:31] <Fred> how do i force a reload of the network config?
[02:31] <apokryphos> Fred: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[02:31] <sklav> pashaw, is it based on debian or just using sources?
[02:31] <Fred> apokryphos, i cant "ifup" remotely tho can i?
[02:32] <pashaw> sklav,  knoppix debian  mentions ubuntu  i believe
[02:32] <sureshot> Hello can someon please advise me on what software to use that is compatible with a ulead tv 2000 pro tv card
[02:32] <djm62> Fred: at +2m ifup eth0 ;)
[02:32] <sklav> Fred, you could if you script it in crontab "Not Recommended"
[02:32] <sureshot> to watch movis
[02:32] <sureshot> movise
[02:32] <john> Sklav, do I enable glx before or after i reconfigure xserver for nvidia?
[02:32] <djm62> Fred: assuming you have the at command
[02:32] <apokryphos> Fred: it isn't I'm afraid
[02:32] <apokryphos> hm
[02:32] <Fred> the what command?
[02:33] <sklav> john after you edit xorg.conf and replace the line nv with nvidia
[02:33] <djm62> Fred: the "at" command which allows you to do things at some time in the future
[02:33] <sklav> you run the command also make sure kernel-modules-unsupported is installed
[02:33] <Fred> i typed "at" and it said "garbled time"
[02:33] <djm62> Fred: I believe the *BSD version allows you to have done things in the past, too
[02:33] <sklav> for your running kernel by the way
[02:33] <john> Sklav, how do i edit xorg.conf, can i open the file? if so how?
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: the syntax is at <time> <command>
[02:34] <ssstormy> hey
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: man at
[02:34] <sklav> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <ssstormy> or I should say: "hello guys"
[02:34] <Fred> so i could do at +1m ifdown eth0 and then at +2m ifup eth0 ?
[02:34] <sklav> not usually required
[02:34] <Determinist> john, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <sklav> but if you have to that is how
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: do the ifup with the time delay first, then ifdown manually?
[02:35] <Fred> well apokryphos said to do down then up :/
[02:35] <ITSa341> SUCCESS   I got it working finally
[02:35] <ssstormy> I'm running a SID release of mysql5.0 (I know it's unsupported and all) but is there a configuration setting to close the ports to te world?  My mysql server is only running on localhost; the port is only open when I scan localhost
[02:35] <djm62> Fred: but you don't have to type the commands in that order...
[02:35] <john> ok i edited xorg.conf
[02:35] <Fred> oh yeh, true
[02:35] <Fred> thanks :)
[02:35] <hd420> ssstormy: bugger, mate
[02:35] <john> now where do i go?
[02:35] <hd420> my apache problem still remains
[02:35] <ssstormy> hd420, it's not a config option?
[02:36] <hd420> I don't know
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, what's your issue?
[02:36] <sureshot> what it a good program to run with my movie card
[02:36] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Doesn't the mysql.user table control who has access to what? You can contrain all users to only be allowed from host "localhost".
[02:36] <hd420> as I use postgresql or Oracle
[02:36] <hd420> trying to install the apache atp, getting error 1
[02:36] <Goldfisch> sureshot: I use mythtv.
[02:36] <sklav> john u need to logoff and the hit crtl+alt+backspace
[02:36] <john> sklav, i have changed nv to nvidia bud, now where do I go
[02:36] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, and that would stop the port from opening?
[02:36] <hd420> err... apache apt, I mean
[02:36] <john> sklav, what about enabling glx?
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, try it from the command line
[02:36] <ITSa341> <-- signed into AOL and it all works!!   only took 3 days  LOL
[02:36] <sklav> yes enable it first
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, it will give you debug output
[02:37] <sklav> and then do last step i mentionned
[02:37] <hd420> ssstormy: how?
[02:37] <sureshot> goldfisch do you have a tv capture card
[02:37] <hd420> apt-get install apache
[02:37] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: If you are running a service on a machine, like mysql on 3309, (or whatever), the port is open. If you are behind a firewall and don't forward the port, then it is closed to everyone on the other side.
[02:37] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?
[02:37] <Fred> djm62, i get some odd stuff... parse error. Last token seen: m
[02:37] <sklav> ok john do the following
[02:37] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:37] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, it's forwarded.  but I scan localhost and it's open
[02:37] <mac_> is it possible in (k)ubuntu to have a given font be available as both, anti-aliased and non-AA?  For example, for kword I'd like to use AA version of Arial, but for general usage in KDE/GNOME, such as menus and the interface, I'd like to use the non-AA version of Arial...  can this be done?
[02:37] <ssstormy> I scan 192.168.1.101 (my wlan adaptor)
[02:37] <ssstormy> and it's closed
[02:37] <Goldfisch> sureshot: Of course (or I wouldn't be running much of anything, ehh?) I have a Jetways BT878 one.
[02:37] <ssstormy> hd420, yeah
[02:37] <djm62> Fred: I don't recall the time specification... + something
[02:38] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, anyway, I picked up a nice beige box at the local thrift for $35us... an old server for a local ad agency ( They didn't slick their hard drive, silly humans LOL) It's a pentium 2 266 on an MS6111 MB (oddball Intell chipset, but tomshardware gave it a fab review back in 97) with a 10 gig hd, a 4 meg pci vid card, a pci nic, and and an ISA modem. Now... as a reasonably intelligently person BUT a total Linux newb... Am I
[02:38] <Aviatrixie>  biting off more than I can chew right now?
[02:38] <hd420> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:38] <sureshot> ogoldfisch i have a ulead tv 2000 pro with fm tuner
[02:38] <ssstormy> hd420, or apache2.  Also, you can cd /var/cache/apt/archive and do dpkg -i packagename.  the cache for all of apt's downloaded packages is there
[02:38] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?
[02:38] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: You mean the firewall-router between yourself and the world is forwarding traffic to your mysql server?
[02:38] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, you bet
[02:38] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Is that your intention?
[02:38] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, and I know it's working cause apache and ftp is working
[02:39] <djm62> Fred: at now + 3 minutes .....
[02:39] <ssstormy> yeah I want it to forward the 3306 port to my computer
[02:39] <tellim> hi all, i have libdvdcss2 installed as instructed here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback  ... but cant play any dvds.... xine error says vtsn=-1,domain=2 .... anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
[02:39] <sklav> ssstormy, are u scanning internally ?
[02:39] <ssstormy> sklav, yes
[02:39] <sklav> if so it will obviously show up
[02:39] <Fred> thanks djm62
[02:39] <zak> what is the package for X development - headers, etc.?
[02:39] <hd420> same error
[02:39] <existance> I just reinstalled XP and it either wrote over GRUB or shoved it out of the way, how can i fix it?
[02:39] <ssstormy> I scan "localhost" (127.0.0.1) and it's open
[02:39] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   that would make a good personal server  but not desktop   unless you set it up as a thin client
[02:39] <psusi> Aviatrixie, you might want to get a slightly more recent machine... but the real answer to your question is "how bad do you want to get that working"?
[02:39] <john> sklav, it wouldnt let me enable, said i needed to change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf but i already did and saved it
[02:39] <Fred> djm62, parse error. Last token seen: ifup
[02:39] <sklav> ssstormy, that is normal
[02:39] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: There are two ways to forward traffic, either your entire mysql server has been placed in the firewalls' DMZ, or you configured it to forward the mysql port. What is your setup?
[02:40] <ssstormy> I scan "192.168.1.101" (my net adaptor, and what the network sees me as) and it's not there
[02:40] <psusi> existance, reinstall grub
[02:40] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, just port forwarding
[02:40] <sklav> john, is the file u edited xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ?
[02:40] <existance> psusi, I'd have to do that from a live CD though right?
[02:40] <john> sklav, yes
[02:40] <ssstormy> hd420, if you read though there should be error output
[02:40] <ssstormy> besides "error 1"
[02:40] <john> sklav, ive rebooted
[02:40] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: If you don't want anyone other than localhost user's getting to that, than remove that port for the forwarding list.
[02:40] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, cool deal tho   now you can learn Ubuntu  and server stuff
[02:40] <sklav> ok john im confused somewhat give me a sec
[02:41] <psusi> existance, I think you can do it from the setup cd too... if you choose an advanced setup, you can choose only to install grub, then quit
[02:41] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, other way round.  I want the world to have access to my mysql server
[02:41] <hd420> ssstormy: dpkg: error processing apache (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:41] <sklav> u rebooted the system or X
[02:41] <ssstormy> hd420, read before that
[02:41] <existance> psusi, hmm, I'll try it, thanks for the help
[02:41] <hd420> Unpacking replacement apache ...Setting up apache (1.3.33-8) ...
[02:41] <regplus> what is command to copy Samba folder from desktop to /etc folder?
[02:41] <hd420> that's all dpkg wrote
[02:42] <djm62> Fred: you'll need root access (sudo -s) then do at +3 minutes <enter> then put in the commands you want done
[02:42] <ssstormy> before the error!? that's werid
[02:42] <ssstormy> try apache2
[02:42] <dragonbyte> does anyone know how i can get yenta socket to load with a different irq?
[02:42] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Then what is the matter? You are having issues with people connecting to it?
[02:42] <pashaw> regplus,   why is samba on the desktop?
[02:42] <djm62> Fred: been a while since I used at.... I think that's the final answer
[02:42] <sklav> john, make sure there is no typo
[02:42] <regplus> its backup
[02:42] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, yes.  cause the port is not open for remote users
[02:42] <Fred> ahhhhh ok thanks a lot djm62 :D
[02:43] <regplus> so I want overwrite current Samba folder which is in etc folder
[02:43] <john> sklav, there doesnt seem to be
[02:43] <sklav> it should look like this
[02:43] <sklav> Driver		"nvidia"
[02:43] <john> sklav, i rebooted but back to same prob as before
[02:43] <sklav> in the proper section
[02:43] <pashaw> regplus,   why not just copy over the config files
[02:43] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, my router is all set up nice, and my firewall too, but the only place port 3306 is open is on localhost, not on my network adaptor, thus no one can access the server
[02:43] <john> sklav, yes it is like that but after reboot i get the failed blu escreen again
[02:43] <regplus> I can not use copy/paste because it wont let me
[02:43] <sklav> john which nvidia card do you have?
[02:43] <Fred> djm62, once i've typed the command(s), how do i get out of the edit thing?
[02:44] <pashaw> regplus,    you'd use mv    but   dont blame me
[02:44] <djm62> Fred: ctrl-D
[02:44] <Fred> ctrl+c doesnt save it
[02:44] <Fred> ah thanks :D
[02:44] <john> sklav, gf6600gt
[02:44] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Is this some iptables configuration? I don't understand what you mean by the port being closed. The firewall is defining what is open and closed, and you just explained to me how the firewall is open.
[02:44] <sklav> hum i have the 6200
[02:44] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, well I disabled all firewall activity and it didn't help
[02:44] <sklav> and it works
[02:44] <ssstormy> the port was still closed
[02:44] <john> sklav, im still thinking a reinstall may be beneficial
[02:45] <Determinist> john, i've set up my 6600GT and it works like a charm, what seems to be the problem? sorry, following with one eye here
[02:45] <john> sklav, it will determine if it is the drivers or the card
[02:45] <sklav> john have u installed the kernel-unsupported modules?
[02:45] <regplus> pashaw, mv /home/user/samba /etc    ?
[02:45] <john> sklav, dont think so
[02:45] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, thin thin client is exactly what I'm thinking. I used MSN dial-up for years and got webtv free on thier MSN One Plan. MSN sucks as a primary means of accessing the web, but is superb as a way to surf. I used it for years, and only unplugged it a few weeks ago when I bought my new house and the TV was too far from the damn (small Linux... which I love!) phone jack. So, I was going to give it to him, but then I got to t
[02:45] <Aviatrixie> hinking of migrating him to linux. So... here I am.
[02:45] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: How do you know this? Are you trying to connect from an external IP address via port 3306?
[02:45] <sklav> john u would need them
[02:45] <ssstormy> yes, that is my goal
[02:45] <sklav> use synaptic to check
[02:46] <john> Determinist, get failed to start xserver blue screen
[02:46] <Aviatrixie> oop... MSN = MSNTV
[02:46] <john> sklav, what do i do in synaptic?
[02:46] <apokryphos> john: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia  ?
[02:46] <apokryphos> might be useful
[02:46] <Determinist> john, right, it happens sometimes. did you download the nvidia driver from their site and installed it or did you use the binary package that comes with ubuntu from the repository?
[02:46] <sklav> which kernel are u running?
[02:47] <sklav> type uname -a in a command line
[02:47] <Aviatrixie> For myself, I'm thinking of building a flexat for my tx
[02:48] <sklav> apokryphos, it might be linux-restricted-modules is not installed
[02:48] <Determinist> john, go with sklav's method, if that doesnt work gimme a holler, i'll show you how i did it. i dont want to interfere with their way in the middle
[02:48] <bk> can someone help me.  i don't have the 'Add/Remove Programs' in the applications menu anymore.
[02:48] <john> apokryphos,  will do pastebin hang on
[02:48] <apokryphos> sklav: shouldn't really matter
[02:48] <Determinist> bk, system tools->menu editor, just check it's box there and voila
[02:48] <bk> it's not in the menu editor, i checked.
[02:49] <john> Determinist, i used the one in repository
[02:49] <sklav> apokryphos, according to the restricted modules nvidia is a module of it
[02:49] <Determinist> bk, not sure then, sorry
[02:49] <sklav> or required to get nvidia working
[02:49] <Markus_Needs_Hel> i'm trying to recover grub manually after reinstalling windows
[02:49] <foampeace> anyone played stratagus
[02:49] <apokryphos> sklav: you only need that when you're getting/running the driver from their site I believe. If nvidia-glx needed it, it'd pull it in.
[02:49] <Evil_Whisper> back apokryphos
[02:49] <tellim> Markus_Needs_Hel, you might try the ultimate book cd... can help you recover from something like that
[02:49] <tellim> er, ultimate BOOT cd
[02:49] <Determinist> john, i've used the binary from nvidia... so sorry, go with sklav unless that doesnt work and i'll show you how it's done instead. btw, there's an excellent newbie how-to on ubuntuforums for this method.
[02:49] <jsubl2> Markus_Needs_Hel: boot the install cd and type rescue... follow the prompts
[02:49] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: 'llo
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> well i just went with the live cd
[02:50] <sklav> but if he is using a k7 kernel after pulling in glx im not sure it does
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> and now i'm using terminal in ubuntu live
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> i'm in grub
[02:50] <sklav> but i could be wrong
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> but it gives me an error
[02:50] <leather_n_luv> anyone here write scripts?
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[02:50] <Milk_> has anyone here run into this error "Special Device does not exist."?
[02:51] <john> apokryphos, its in pastebin
[02:51] <dereks_> does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper
[02:51] <apokryphos> john: link?
[02:51] <leather_n_luv> anyone here know how to use 'sed'?
[02:51] <Markus_Needs_Hel> my ubuntu partition is listed in fstab as hde2
[02:51] <ubuntu> hello
[02:51] <Markus_Needs_Hel> so i entered it as hd4,1
[02:51] <ubuntu> how do i install firefox 1.5
[02:51] <ice> anyone have flashfxp and wine ?
[02:51] <ice> got a ?
[02:51] <workbean_ubuntu> has anybody noticed that Ubuntu's time lags when it's ran in VMware
[02:52] <apokryphos> ubuntu: check the wiki -- there's a guide.
[02:52] <john> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6291
[02:52] <ice> no one answering at winehq  lol
[02:52] <foampeace> how come firefox isnt in the repository yet
[02:52] <ssstormy> ubuntu, you can also use one of the SID reps
[02:52] <ssstormy> SID has firefox1.5
[02:52] <regplus> Where to read how to copy files via terminal?
[02:52] <leather_n_luv> ice: did you try a dual boot to windows to use flashFXP?
[02:52] <djm62> foampeace: firefox is, but new software does not get put into the stable repos
[02:52] <ice> no using wine
[02:52] <ssstormy> regplus, type "man cp"
[02:52] <foampeace> ubuntu: maybe you can find a firefox deb package for breezy
[02:52] <apokryphos> john: looks like your problem :)
[02:53] <john> apokryphos, bearing in mind i changed nvidia back to nv to boot into gnome
[02:53] <foampeace> djm62: its not stable?
[02:53] <djm62> I guess the breezy version of firefox will be pretty much obsolete by the time dapper comes out ;)
[02:53] <apokryphos> john: that wouldn't change the output of that command. It's saying X/Linux doesn't recognise the card properly. "Unknown Device"
[02:53] <leather_n_luv> i need some help from someone that knows how to use 'sed'
[02:53] <ssstormy> djm62, when's dapper scheduled for release?
[02:53] <foampeace> dapper?
[02:53] <djm62> foampeace: the repos are stable. that means no new software, only security fixes.
[02:54] <john> apokryphos, should I go with determinist and the nvidia site drivers?
[02:54] <djm62> ssstormy: april
[02:54] <foampeace> djm62: dapper is the next release?
[02:54] <john> apokryphos, if he is still here that is
[02:54] <djm62> ssstormy: by which time firefox 1.0.6 will be completely unable to render webpages
[02:54] <apokryphos> john: it would indeed work if it was done properly, yes.
[02:54] <Determinist> john, i'm here :)
[02:54] <foampeace> is ubuntu ahead of debian in development?
[02:54] <john> Determinist, yey, please save me! ha ha
[02:54] <Amaranth> foampeace: on some things
[02:55] <apokryphos> like KDE ;-)
[02:55] <Amaranth> foampeace: it syncs with sid for a couple months plus adds the latest GNOME, KDE, and X stuff
[02:55] <john> Determinist, direct moi
[02:55] <leather_n_luv> is there a channel for scripting?
[02:55] <tellim> can anybody tell me what repo to use to get libdvdcss2 for breezy?
[02:55] <pl_ice> hey, what file is :  *.flac  i know it's an iso ...
[02:55] <Amaranth> leather_n_luv: what language?
[02:55] <apokryphos> !tell tellim about libdvdcss2
[02:55] <Determinist> john, alright, brb, i'll get you a link for a howto. i want you to follow this howto and ask me questions if something isnt clear about the instructions or if you cant complete them in any way. seems best to me.
[02:55] <server_newbie> Hi all
[02:55] <tellim> ubuntuguide lists hoary repos
[02:55] <john> Determinist, k
[02:55] <apokryphos> !tell tellim about ubuntuguide
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> Amaranth,  bash or sh
[02:56] <pl_ice> !flac
[02:56] <ubotu> No idea, pl_ice
[02:56] <server_newbie> Where can I get a copy of the defualt apache2.conf filr I have dog'd mine bad !!!
[02:56] <sophtpaw> tellim: replace hoary with breezy
[02:56] <Amaranth> leather_n_luv: have you tried #bash? :)
[02:56] <jhenn> is beagle in ubuntu?
[02:56] <sophtpaw> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:56] <djm62> jhenn: yes
[02:56] <john> something else I dont understand is why cedega only opens after I install it...follow a reboot and it wont run?
[02:56] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: Please don't tell people to go to that site.
[02:56] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> pl_ice, *.flac = "free lossless audio codec" = sound file
[02:56] <jhenn> djm62: how do you install it?
[02:57] <tellim> sophtpaw, did that, but still wasnt able to find libdvdcss2 for breezy
[02:57] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: ?? : <
[02:57] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: they have you do odd things
[02:57] <apokryphos> sophtpaw: the site is evil and has notoriously caused a lot of problems with its advice.
[02:57] <djm62> jhenn: I thing the name is best (or similar)
[02:57] <pl_ice> leather_n_luv my mate needs that u/d windowz how do i conver it to mp3 etc?
[02:57] <leather_n_luv> Amaranth, will try...
[02:57] <jhenn> djm62: huh?
[02:57] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)
[02:57] <Determinist> john, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <--- you need method 2 which is specified in length after the summary of all 3 methods.
[02:57] <sklav> ok im off guys i need sleep
[02:57] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: sorry, didn't know. It has been very helpful in my life
[02:57] <sklav> im burnt
[02:57] <apokryphos> 'night sklav =)
[02:57] <workbean_ubuntu> no one had that experience? hmmm...
[02:58] <skon> I'm trying to change my application menu but the names of the folders won't change when I change the name in the box...anyone know why?
[02:58] <john> Determinist, ok ill try it bud
[02:58] <djm62> jhenn: apt-get install beagle
[02:58] <leather_n_luv> pl_ice, don't know, not familiar enough with sound prog's...
[02:58] <sophtpaw> tellim: have you gone to synaptic and updated repos there?
[02:58] <djm62> jhenn: this is on breezy
[02:58] <pl_ice> thnx
[02:58] <Determinist> john, i'll give you a link also to the nvidia site for the file you need to download (latest driver isnt the one you need).
[02:58] <sklav> later apokryphos john Determinist
[02:58] <Amaranth> skon: What one are you trying to change?
[02:58] <Determinist> cya sklav mate, nn :)
[02:58] <Aviatrixie> I need to go now. Thanks for the input, pashaw and averyone :)
[02:58] <skon> Amaranth: Office
[02:58] <jhenn> djm62: k thank
[02:59] <Amaranth> skon: Does ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/ have anything in it?
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, thanks, at least i was able to get it to display the rating warning at the very beginning for like half a second before it encountered an error :)
[02:59] <tellim> sophtpaw, yes i did that
[02:59] <sophtpaw> and?
[02:59] <Amaranth> skon: That's a path, ~ is /home/<user>/
[02:59] <Determinist> john, this is the file to download from the nvidia site: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run
[02:59] <apokryphos> tellim: is it working now with those ubotu instructions?
[02:59] <tellim> sociopath, and.... libdvdcss2 is not there....
[02:59] <foampeace> http://insectwar.free.fr/
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, no
[02:59] <skon> Amaranth: yes it has Education.directory and Office.directory
[02:59] <tellim> apokryphos, but getting closer :)
[02:59] <sophtpaw> tellim: synaptic/settings/repositories - tick it all and update
[02:59] <skon> I rename those?
[03:00] <apokryphos> tellim: ok, directly get the deb from giannaros.orb/buntu/breezy/i386 then
[03:00] <sudo_smartass> how do i manage all my apt-get applications and integrate them into my applications menu?
[03:00] <Amaranth> skon: Open gedit and drag the Office.directory file on to the gedit window
[03:00] <apokryphos> tellim: *.org
[03:00] <sudo_smartass> ie. WINE
[03:00] <Amaranth> sudo_smartass: Please change your nick.
[03:00] <foampeace> games games games!
[03:00] <sophtpaw> tellim: then search libdvdcss2 mark and apply for installation - done
[03:00] <tellim> sophtpaw, im a command line kinda guy, all repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <existance> I'm trying to make the menu.list for GRUB, but I know how to figure out what kernel I have or what the video= should be
[03:01] <sophtpaw> tellim: fair enough. I'm just telling you the idiot way (me) way of doing it - it works
[03:01] <Amaranth> existance: When you install a kernel it sets up the menu.list for you.
[03:01] <john> christ! i get an error Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file when trying to access synaptics
[03:01] <apokryphos> tellim: proper link: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[03:01] <nurfe> existance: uname -a gives you the kernel first :)
[03:01] <nurfe> *version
[03:02] <tellim> apokryphos, thank you will wget
[03:02] <Determinist> john, perhaps you have another session of synaptic running
[03:02] <tellim> sociopath, nothing idiot about it
[03:02] <existance> Amaranth, yes I know.  I reinstalled XP recently and it wiped grub
[03:02] <john> Determinist, nope, all closed
[03:02] <Amaranth> !grub
[03:02] <ubotu> from memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:02] <existance> gratzi
[03:02] <pl_ice> guys my xmms crashes, when i try install wma plugin or itouch any help with it?
[03:02] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: is that the official version then, not to send people to the ubuntuguide? in the forums everyone gets directed there as a first line of problem solving
[03:02] <nekostar> arg
[03:02] <nekostar> does grub normally clench up when installing on a laptop?
[03:02] <skon> Amaranth: okay so I can change that file....by the way are there supposed to be dozens of lines in different languages? or did i install some langauge pack by mistake?
[03:02] <nekostar> its been frozen for a few minutes..
[03:02] <apokryphos> sophtpaw: yes, don't direct them there please
[03:03] <ssstormy> nekostar, it did that to me too
[03:03] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: The people on the forums can do what they want, we've had too many users with unexplainable problems caused by ubuntuguide that came here for help.
[03:03] <Amaranth> sophtpaw: So no ubuntuguide here.
[03:03] <ssstormy> nekostar, but it started working a few installs later.  I must have changed a fwe things
[03:03] <Determinist> john, no idea there, try a reboot, perhaps it's some system fart because of the changes you've made... btw, the system might not boot into X if you do that :P
[03:03] <Amaranth> skon: It's supposed to be like that.
[03:04] <skon> k thanks for oyur help
[03:04] <john> when wanting to reboot I get an Xauthority not writable and it closes out to a terminal?
[03:04] <jhenn> does anyone have yahoo messenger?
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: I was having you open this file for debugging, actually. :)
[03:04] <tellim> apokryphos, that libdvdcss2 doesnt give me the mpaa rating warning like the other one does..... this is all so odd
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: But you can just change the name in there too.
[03:04] <sophtpaw> Amaranth: someone would do well then to tell the moderators at the forums too. Because i almost thought it was official
[03:04] <Amaranth> skon: Look for 'Name='
[03:04] <skon> Amaranth: all I had to do was change the name of the file
[03:04] <sudo_smartass> where can i find the "wine" program that my apt-get downloaded/installed?
[03:04] <nekostar> ssstormy, gnome is still faster than xp right?
[03:04] <nekostar> how big is the default install?
[03:04] <Amaranth> sudo_smartass: Change your nick and I'll tell you.
[03:05] <Amaranth> nekostar: You probably need a 4GB drive for the installation but it only takes about 2GB.
[03:05] <ssstormy> nekostar, sometimes.  XP really is nice sometimes, but gnome dosn't freeze
[03:05] <nekostar> ouch
[03:05] <Epix> finish him!
[03:05] <nekostar> its only a 4.5gig hdd total
[03:05] <skon> nice
[03:05] <maskd> bannality
[03:05] <nekostar> i wanna keep ubuntu under a gig
[03:05] <Amaranth> He left.
[03:06] <Epix> ah.
[03:06] <apokryphos> nekostar: default install is 1.8 gigs
[03:06] <Epix> well, he finished himself.
[03:06] <ssstormy> nekostar, to do that ...
[03:06] <nekostar> holy ouch
[03:06] <steven_> can anyone tell me of an audio file converter, IE flac to Mp3 with a gui, for ubuntu ?
[03:06] <Epix> nekostar: you can try the server install
[03:06] <nekostar> server isntall + windowmaker then
[03:06] <j2daosh> ok amar... wheres it at? ~/.wine?
[03:06] <apokryphos> nekostar: worth trying
[03:06] <john> ok all im gonna reinstall, my head is done in now
[03:06] <maskd> im so happy, the version of vlc with dapper is much better than the one included with breezy
[03:06] <Epix> nekostar: basicly, it installs a very simple system and you install the rest of the packages.
[03:06] <john> thanks for all your help guys
[03:07] <Amaranth> j2daosh: /usr/bin/wine is the thing you run
[03:07] <ssstormy> steve__, try audacity
[03:07] <john> gonna install fresh then follow the guide for the nvidia site drivers
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: funny, it wasn't installing at all yesterday.
[03:07] <Amaranth> j2daosh: The config stuff is in ~/.wine/
[03:07] <ssstormy> steve__, sorry
[03:07] <Epix> nekostar: not the best thing for newbies, but I dont know how much experance you have...
[03:07] <ssstormy> steven_, try audacity
[03:07] <Determinist> john, np mate, good luck, give me a holler once you do and need help with the driver mate
[03:07] <steven_> ssstormy, that encodes?
[03:07] <maskd> apokryphos, really?
[03:07] <john> Determinist, you bet! he he
[03:07] <nekostar> ive got enough to do that much Epix
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: down to dbus transition, yes. I should take a look into it actually.
[03:07] <maskd> vlc 0.8.4?
[03:07] <ssstormy> steven_, it's actually an audio editor
[03:07] <ssstormy> just import the file
[03:07] <Determinist> <--- back to philosophy paper
[03:07] <ssstormy> and save it in your new format
[03:07] <steven_> ok ssstormy
[03:07] <apokryphos> maskd: yup
[03:08] <Epix> anyway, anyone have a clue why gparted wont work? I resize, reboot and nothing changed! This is on Ubuntu 5.10 Live
[03:08] <ssstormy> although it does need extensions to do flac and mp3
[03:08] <ssstormy> but it's  pretty easy
[03:08] <maskd> apokryphos: it installed without a hitch for me
[03:08] <mark_> i need help with rescue
[03:08] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: does audacity also deal with avi files ?
[03:08] <ssstormy> Epix, are you sure you were partitioning your disk and not the RAM drive/
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, no just audio
[03:08] <mark_> its asking me which device to mount as a root file system
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, try mencoder
[03:08] <sophtpaw> thx
[03:08] <Epix> nekostar: then it might be worth a shot. you can choose a lot of custom settings!
[03:08] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, you might have to add some custom repositires
[03:09] <tjb13> hey guys, do any of you know how to get sleep working
[03:09] <Epix> ssstormy: heh, i dont think so, but ill check!
[03:09] <mark_> can anyone help me
[03:09] <nekostar> Epix, im intending to make a portable anime viewing machine heh
[03:09] <nekostar> + watching dvd's and htats it
[03:09] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: ok,
[03:09] <Epix> ssstormy: no, /dev/hda
[03:09] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, mencoder is an extension of mplayer, so you will need to look in universe/multiverse and outside
[03:09] <nekostar> its only 600mhz celeron 128MB ram dell insperion 4000
[03:09] <nekostar> 5gig hdd or so
[03:09] <steven_> ssstormy, where can i get the file audacity needs to save as mp3, lame encoder or something? then i need to locate the .so file
[03:09] <ssstormy> Epix, couldn't tell ya then
[03:10] <ssstormy> it should give you some message
[03:10] <chance2105_> Ok.  So I did the first stage of installation.  Rebooted.  The computer shows "Installing packages" and "Preparing for installtion..." but is hanging at 0%.  I can VT-Switch and login as the user I set up, but the installation isn't going anywhere.  What can I do to get the installation going again?
[03:10] <john> so how does one install a deb file?
[03:10] <nekostar> and i need to get a serial cable so i can connect it to one of my desktops >.<
[03:10] <mark_> can anyone help me understand why disk 0 shows parts 1, 2, 3 and 5
[03:10] <Epix> nekostar: then all you really need is base system + xorg + some kind of wm + video player + (legit copies) of movies!
[03:10] <ssstormy> if not, search in synaptic for something like "lib mp3"
[03:10] <nekostar> unless... i could get a usb cable with a doodad
[03:10] <Determinist> john, sudo dpkg -i <file>
[03:10] <ssstormy> john, dpkg -i blah
[03:10] <nekostar> Epix, dvd's yeah :)
[03:10] <ssstormy> mark_, it has a extended partition
[03:10] <nekostar> ive got a few hundred... i should really buy less i suppose heh
[03:11] <skon> Okay I have some programs that show up in the menu editor as visible, but they do not show up in the menus, anyone know why?
[03:11] <apokryphos> maskd: hm, vlc there seems to depend on libdbus-1-1 (but >0.5) for some reason
[03:11] <mark_> okies i got a sh-3.00#
[03:11] <mark_> now what
[03:11] <Epix> nekostar: the only problem I can see is in the ram, but you shouldnt have any issues with playing movies. 600mhz is enough.
[03:11] <ssstormy> skon, happened to me too, no clue
[03:11] <leather_n_luv> does anyone know how to export a setting from a *.conf file to a variable in a script?
[03:11] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: there's a choice of mencoders: custom/586/k6/k7 they all seems to do the same thing? any recommendations?
[03:11] <j2daosh> ok... got another question
[03:11] <steven_> ssstormy, i can't find the lame mp3 encoder in apt-cache search
[03:11] <mark_> it doesn't appear to prompting me anymore
[03:11] <nekostar> Epix, probably too slow to play my sweet .mkv's though :/
[03:11] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, what processor do you have?
[03:11] <sophtpaw> errr....
[03:12] <maskd> apokryphos, does it work if you apt-get it?
[03:12] <ssstormy> steven_, apt-cache is what you already downloaded
[03:12] <mark_> so now what do i do
[03:12] <Epix> nekostar: worth a shot :P
[03:12] <steven_> ssstormy, how fo i find the lame mp3 encoder then?
[03:12] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: 86?
[03:12] <apokryphos> maskd: nope, depends on a much later version of libdbus-1-1
[03:12] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, go to command line and do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" or whatever th efilename is
[03:12] <steven_> ssstormy, it says i have it..
[03:12] <maskd> woah, for some reason i have a lot of cdroms in my /media/ folder
[03:12] <ssstormy> steven_, you have it?
[03:12] <j2daosh> in windows systems there is a program called dameon tools... it allows you to mount a virtual drive (cd-rom) and mount .iso files for use without actually being a cd... is there a similiar program in linux?
[03:12] <Epix> ssstormy: no, apt-cache search searches all software in the source.
[03:13] <j2daosh> and if so... what is the name and what repo will i find it in???
[03:13] <steven_> ssstormy, yea but audacity wants
[03:13] <Razor-X> j2daosh: you need no program to do that
[03:13] <ssstormy> Epix oops my bad
[03:13] <steven_> libmp3lame.so
[03:13] <nekostar> heh
[03:13] <pl_ice> j2daosh u don't have to have one, u just mount it with -o loop
[03:13] <mark_> hmmm
[03:13] <Razor-X> j2daosh: most UNIXes mount by default
[03:13] <mark_> how come it says it can't find the device to mount to
[03:13] <maskd> apokryphos, pretty strange then why mine worked, i've pretty much only let it auto update to the latest of everything
[03:13] <dabaR> !me accepts towellie's invitation
[03:13] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dabaR
[03:13] <ssstormy> steven_, so look and see if that file, or one with near- identical name is in /lib or /usr/lib
[03:13] <j2daosh> yeah but im looking for a virtual one...
[03:13] <maskd> apokryphos, and fresh installed with dapper flight 2 iso
[03:13] <steven_> ssstormy, how do i find liblame.so ?
[03:13] <j2daosh> basically emulating a cd-rom
[03:13] <apokryphos> maskd: what version of libdbus-1-1 do you have?
[03:13] <leather_n_luv> !sed
[03:13] <ubotu> leather_n_luv: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:14] <leather_n_luv> lol
[03:14] <maskd> apokryphos, how do i check?
[03:14] <apokryphos> maskd: ah, that's why. You're running on a different dapper then -- I presumed you were on today's
[03:14] <ssstormy> steven_,  just look for it in the /lib or /usr/lib dir
[03:14] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: says, 'cpu family' 6
[03:14] <mark_> `any ideas anyone.... i'm really stuck
[03:14] <Epix> oh winrar, why must you be so slow... Its been 23 min, and my archive is still extracting...
[03:14] <mark_> i've tried a number of methods to reinstall grub
[03:14] <j2daosh> so .iso's can be played from a file on my harddrive instead of having to burn it to a disk first and then playing it
[03:14] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, look at model name
[03:14] <mark_> and keep getting the same errors
[03:14] <j2daosh> am i making any sense?
[03:14] <pl_ice> j2daosh but u can just mount the cd/iso etc in a foler and point a game etc to it...
[03:15] <mark_> i know that both windows and ubuntu are on hde
[03:15] <pashaw> j2daosh, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5639
[03:15] <mark_> but when i try to install grub there it tells me it can't find it
[03:15] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: it is an  Athlone AMD XP 2800+ (is that what you mean?)
[03:15] <oveh> is it possible for thunderbird to download all the mails on the gmail account?
[03:15] <tjb13> nobody here knows how to get sleep working on a thinkpad
[03:15] <slide> ok wtf, gam_server is using 950megs of Virtual Memory
[03:15] <maskd> apokryphos, do you have any idea on how to fix the prob?
[03:15] <tjb13> I'm shootin blanks here
[03:15] <Razor-X> j2daosh: you know what mount does, right?
[03:15] <chance2105_> oveh: Yup.
[03:16] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, ok good.  you'll wanna remeber that for future.  you have a k7 processor
[03:16] <steven_> ssstormy, how do i search a folder
[03:16] <j2daosh> pl_ice, ur saying if i go into my fstab and add an entry that points to the .iso it will automagically consider it a mounted device?
[03:16] <oveh> chance2105_: how? :-)
[03:16] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: ok, so mencoder k7 for me
[03:16] <dabaR> mark_: what exactly are you doing? from the beginning...
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, the easy way is open a terminal and type "ls /usr/lib/"
[03:16] <steven_> ssstormy, k
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, and begin typing the name of what you want
[03:16] <pl_ice> j2daosh yeh, u can just type eg. mount /file.iso  /a  -o loop it's in the man,
[03:16] <ssstormy> steven_, and then hit tab a few times
[03:16] <apokryphos> maskd: yup, it's not a problem to get around. Just was curious that it was smooth for you (but we're running different dapper).
[03:16] <ssstormy> it will list all that match that name start
[03:17] <sik> So.. yeah... I'm a bit of a newbie and my current linux guru is unavailable. I just got a NexStar external hd enclosure and gan't get it to read or mount. can anyone help with this?
[03:17] <j2daosh> interesting...
[03:17] <mark_> thanks dabaR
[03:17] <Dreamglider> what is a easy diskpartioning tool for ubuntu
[03:17] <chance2105_> oveh:  http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103\
[03:17] <j2daosh> ill have to take a look at that
[03:17] <ssstormy> steven_, btw I mean before you hit enter, start the name of what you want
[03:17] <chance2105_> oveh:  err, omit the last " \ "
[03:17] <MachineScrew> any one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid
[03:17] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: k6 is the same but more stable i think i'm getting the impression. Also says it is for AMD
[03:17] <mark_> i am desperately trying to reinstall grub after reinstalling windows
[03:17] <jcsmith> hi all
[03:17] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, well k7 is a link to k6 right now in that thing
[03:17] <maskd> hi jcsmith
[03:17] <mark_> can you help me dabaR ?
[03:18] <MachineScrew> any one
[03:18] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, but k7 IS a little dif, so remember that and always use k7 versions for your computer
[03:18] <skon> So nobody knows why half of my programs don't show up  in the menu even though they are enabled in the menu editor?
[03:18] <jcsmith> I'm trying to get TV out working properly with an NVIDIA FX5200 Graphis card and i can get the picture displaying on the television, some really annoying lines scroll up the screen
[03:18] <jcsmith> any ideas?
[03:18] <nekostar> darn
[03:18] <mark_> i have reviewed all of the tutorials to no avail
[03:18] <MachineScrew> any one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid
[03:18] <ssstormy> jcsmith, that has to do with the refresh rate
[03:18] <nekostar> i get a no compatable kernel error on instal :/
[03:18] <dabaR> mark_: have you followed the wiki instructions? I have not done that yet. Never installed windows after I got Ubuntu...
[03:18] <oveh> chance2105_: i get tbird to download new messages, but it is alot of old emails on the account that i would like inside tbird
[03:18] <mark_> yes i have dabaR
[03:18] <ssstormy> mark_, you can always give lilo a shot
[03:19] <mark_> lilo?
[03:19] <steven_> ssstormy, i'm sure i dont have it
[03:19] <mark_> is it another boot client like grub?
[03:19] <MachineScrew> can k3b do it
[03:19] <ssstormy> steven_, ok lemme look a sec
[03:19] <chance2105_> oveh:  The answer to your question is on that link.  Click "Other".
[03:19] <ssstormy> mark_, yup.  The original
[03:19] <mark_> i liked grub
[03:19] <mark_> it worked fine
[03:19] <chillywilly> is bind9 on the breezy install CD?
[03:19] <chance2105_> oveh:  Then click "enabling POP in Gmail"
[03:20] <mark_> its just that windows pooped as per usual
[03:20] <GTroy> anyone have an idea why my sound is scratchy? from both kaffeine and beep/xmms?
[03:20] <ssstormy> steven_, so is mp3 working?
[03:20] <john> im trying to play a dvd in both ogle and okle but when I click on open disc the software crashes and closes
[03:20] <chillywilly> apt tells me it cannot find it
[03:20] <mark_> and i had to reinstal it
[03:20] <zak> how do i mount a disk image?
[03:20] <john> anyone know why? or can recommend a failsafe dvd player?
[03:20] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external working?
[03:20] <jcsmith> ssstormy: i've been playing with the HorizSync, Should I try adjust the vertRefresh? Do you have any idea what it should be set to for a US tv?
[03:20] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: if you insist its better i'll remove k6 and install k7. However, won't the update manager do that anyways?
[03:20] <steven_> ssstormy, yea i need this for audacity to save files as mp3
[03:20] <dabaR> mark_: well, you followed the wiki? and you used fdisk to find out what hdX your hard drive is?
[03:20] <megryan> i am having problems with my bank's login screen
[03:20] <chance2105_> oveh:  even better, login to your gmail account and play with the screens shown on the webpage.  It took me all of 30 seconds for figure it out three days ago .. I don't even remember how, it was so easy. :)
[03:20] <ssstormy> jcsmith, you'll have to look
[03:20] <mark_> i have two installed
[03:20] <ssstormy> jcsmith, on the web
[03:21] <ssstormy> steven_, oh yeah, forgot what lame was
[03:21] <pl_ice> megryan probably they arogant :/
[03:21] <mark_> i did fdisk before i reinstalled windows
[03:21] <jcsmith> ssstormy: yea, i'll ask google, i was just hoping that since you knew that much maybe you knew the rest ;)
[03:21] <megryan> pl_ice hey can you help
[03:21] <mark_> i managed to gain root user access in the proper drive
[03:21] <christi> does ubuntu support Xen?
[03:21] <steven_> ssstormy, so how do i get libmp3lame
[03:21] <steven_> and it's .so
[03:21] <john> what software does everyone use to watch DVD's?
[03:22] <chance2105_> john:  totem
[03:22] <oveh> chance2105_: okei, thanx :-)
[03:22] <mark_> but when i do a grub-install /dev/hde it gives me an error message
[03:22] <ssstormy> steven_, well I think the package is liblame0
[03:22] <pl_ice> megryan seen somwhere that u can emulate IE for problems like that, u using firefox?
[03:22] <john> chance2105_, how do you make totem play dvds?
[03:22] <megryan> yes
[03:22] <steven_> ssstormy, i got that but i can't find libmp3lame.s0
[03:22] <mark_> it says it could not find device for /boot
[03:22] <steven_> libmp3lame.so
[03:22] <steven_> how do i search my whole pc?
[03:23] <megryan> i was able to login b4 but i installed tab browser thing and since then i've had problems
[03:23] <oveh> chance2105_: Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on, it worked  :D
[03:23] <oveh> chance2105_: enable pop for all mail i mean
[03:23] <mark_> when i checked fstab prior to the windows install it did not show a seperate /boot partition
[03:23] <pl_ice> megryan give us the address? will c
[03:23] <maskd> mm i seem to have locked up the gnome panels, how do you restart them?
[03:24] <ssstormy> steven_, go to synaptic and go to properties of that package.  go to installed files
[03:24] <ssstormy> steven_, and find the .so, cause it's name is SLIGHTLY different
[03:24] <megryan> yep one sec
[03:24] <dabaR> mark_: well, it is obviously not there.
[03:24] <megryan> http://www.encompasscu.com.au/
[03:25] <GTroy> john: do you have the codecs installed?
[03:25] <steven_> ssstormy, i did search files it was
[03:25] <pl_ice> love linux :)
[03:25] <dabaR> you know what hde means? it is 5th ide drive,
[03:25] <steven_> libmp3lame.so.0
[03:25] <mark_> any other ideas
[03:25] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?
[03:25] <dabaR> mark_: ya, are you in ubuntu live?
[03:25] <megryan> new to ubuntu and it rox
[03:25] <mark_> i have a copy of fstab and fdisk i could paste in private if like
[03:25] <dabaR> mark_: just chill out for 1.
[03:25] <mark_> i'm using ubuntu install
[03:25] <dabaR> !paste
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:25] <steven_> ssstormy, just tried to convert it was all screwed up
[03:25] <mark_> just typed rescue at the boot prompt
[03:26] <pl_ice> john u need to decode dvds with libcss library, not codecs
[03:26] <chance2105_> john:  I lost my link.  There's a nice page on "restricted formats" somewhere on ubuntu.com.  It lists how to set up dvd playback.
[03:26] <ssstormy> steven_, try playing the input file back from audacity
[03:26] <vy2wu> Any ham operators on here?
[03:26] <chance2105_> john:  found it ..   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:27] <Linfan> i want to update firefox to 1.5 how can i do it? i went to firefox.com and downloaded the file but i dont know how to install it
[03:27] <pl_ice> ham? i'm hungry :)
[03:27] <megryan> i have mplayer plugin for mozilla - downloads the media but no player present..
[03:27] <john> chance2105_, thanks
[03:27] <dabaR> mark_: what? then your grub works or no?
[03:27] <vy2wu> oh well
[03:27] <mark_> no
[03:27] <vy2wu> Think I will dive out.
[03:27] <dabaR> mark_: win rescue mode?
[03:27] <steven_> ssstormy, the 2 files for it are /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
[03:27] <steven_> /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[03:27] <mark_> no
[03:27] <dabaR> pah
[03:28] <mark_> i am using ubuntu install cd
[03:28] <ssstormy> steven_, try the .so.0 one
[03:28] <steven_> ssstormy, i did, and when i outputted it it was screwed up
[03:28] <Linfan> the led that lets me know my wireless is on is not showing a light anyway to make it work
[03:28] <sik> Can anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?
[03:28] <mark_> typed rescue after after the cd gave me the boot: argument
[03:29] <dabaR> mark_: can you fdisk? can you paste?
[03:29] <mark_> nope
[03:29] <ssstormy> steven_, but can audacity play back the file ok?
[03:29] <pl_ice> sik, is it usb connection?
[03:29] <sik> yes
[03:29] <steven_> ssstormy, no
[03:29] <sik> pl_ice: yes it is
[03:29] <dabaR> mark_: how are you following the wiki then?
[03:29] <mark_> i have the prompt sh-3.00#
[03:29] <mark_> i have a network
[03:30] <ssstormy> steven_, how did you get the audio file to be converted into audacity?
[03:30] <mark_> right now i am on another computer
[03:30] <ssstormy> and what format was it anyway?
[03:30] <sophtpaw> does internet explorer run on GNU/Linux os?
[03:30] <pl_ice> sik and it didn't mount it automatically somwhere?
[03:30] <sik> pl_ice: when I check the system disks and /dev it shows as sda
[03:30] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, if you want to use wine
[03:30] <pl_ice> sophtpaw yes,
[03:30] <sik> however it hasn't mounted, and I've no way into it
[03:30] <sophtpaw> only with wine?
[03:31] <steven_> ssstormy, i selected export as mp3
[03:31] <pl_ice> sophtpaw there is a thread in ubuntuforums.org about it, can't remember more ...
[03:31] <sophtpaw> pl_ice: ok, i'll search it
[03:31] <pl_ice> sik just try mountind sda1
[03:31] <sorush20> guys how do I undo what this command does?
[03:32] <steven_> ssstormy, do i need to do anything else after i say export as?
[03:32] <sik> pl_ice: there isn't sda1, just sda... and I did try to mount it
[03:32] <j2daosh> ok... that mount /file.iso /a -o loop didn't work
[03:32] <sophtpaw> ssstormy: you're saying i'd install wine first and then i can simply download IE and run it as normal?
[03:32] <SEJeff> sorush20, What command?
[03:32] <steven_> the file is saving as like 100kb also.. so..
[03:32] <root___> anyone willing to help me get my video card working?  I just installed Breezy and it freezes with a grey screen as soon as it starts xorg.
[03:32] <nix4me> why would anyone want to use ie
[03:32] <greenwom> lo
[03:32] <regplus> Is firestarte enabled by default?
[03:32] <sorush20>    echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:32] <nix4me> especially on linux
[03:32] <ssstormy> steven_, if the original audio file can't play back successfully in audacity you know you ahve a problem
[03:32] <SEJeff> nix4me, Web design testing
[03:33] <sorush20> SEJeff: this command    echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:33] <dabaR> root___: dont do IRC as root, come back as another user.
[03:33] <steven_> ssstormy, the original can
[03:33] <nix4me> ahh
[03:33] <ssstormy> sophtpaw, well you have it install it
[03:33] <skon> Anyone know how to create custom themes in Gnome? Actually picking colors and stuff?
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, that's odd. I don't know what's wrong...
[03:33] <steven_> ssstormy, actually no it can
[03:33] <steven_> t
[03:33] <pl_ice> sik throw dmesg just after u plug in the hdd will tell u a lot
[03:33] <chance2105_> What's a good Gnome-ish CPU userspace frequency adjustment program?
[03:33] <SEJeff> sorush20, You added fglrx to the end of /etc/modules
[03:33] <SEJeff> sorush20, That is a very odd way to do it
[03:33] <greenwom> problem, can't format a usb drive.  It shows as write protected but doesn't have a switch  what should I use
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, that would be why
[03:33] <ssstormy> steven_, how'd you add it?
[03:33] <sophtpaw> nix4me: i don't know about anyone. In my case to be able to access my business account only, IE is the only one on which allows me to, while they are working on other browsers
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: well its what is used int official ubuntu wiki
[03:34] <grant_> can anyone help me with my vid card?  Xorg freezes as soon as it loads on a fresh install of breezy.  Its a radeon 9250
[03:34] <pl_ice> sik and then lsusb,
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, sudo echo "fglrx" >> /etc/modules is much easier
[03:34] <ssstormy> steven_, proper way is Projects->Import Audio
[03:34] <chance2105_> The Gnome panel-applet seems only to monitor the frequency, not adjust it. :/
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: will it make any difference in it action and loading/
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, The official wiki is full of things that will break your system :)     sudo gedit /etc/modules... delete the last line and then save it
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, no
[03:34] <nix4me> sophtpaw k
[03:34] <sorush20> SEJeff: thanks.
[03:34] <SEJeff> sorush20, That is just a rather stupid way to do it
[03:35] <ockertom> hi peeps just installed this distro then did a instal for skype but it seems to be missing libsdtc++.5?
[03:35] <existance> is there a command to tell me what version kernel I am running?
[03:35] <sik> pl_ice: as I stated earlier, I'm a bit of a newbie and I understand none of what it's saying
[03:35] <greenwom> any know a low level format utility for USB drives?
[03:36] <psusi> existance, uname -a
[03:36] <grant_> anyone know how to get a radeon 9250 to work with xorg?  It freezes as soon as it starts with the ati, radeon or fglrx drivers
[03:36] <dabaR> existance: no, you can't know.
[03:36] <dragonbyte> existance: cat /proc/version
[03:36] <aconbere> after stage 1 of installation is ubuntu actualy installed?
[03:36] <aconbere> that is could you reboot and get a gnome desktop?
[03:36] <slide> I have 3 harddrives, a 300GB, 150GB and a 100GB. Is there anyway to combine them all to act as one drive?
[03:36] <pl_ice> pc on fire ! back in sec
[03:36] <Sepheebear> slide: use LVM
[03:36] <dragonbyte> slide: raid
[03:36] <ssstormy> aconbere, the full install is done after about 20 min after reboot
[03:36] <psusi> greenwom, "low level format" has not really existed outside the factory for a good 10-15 years... you can use mkfs.fat to format it for fat
[03:36] <grant_> slide:  yes, logical volume management.  But if one drive fails you'll lose everything
[03:37] <SEJeff> grant_, Likely a hardware problem... I am running a 9250 right now
[03:37] <slide> LVM is better/easier then raid?
[03:37] <mark_> dabaR, i've been following that turtorial to a t
[03:37] <christi> slide: depends
[03:37] <ssstormy> aconbere, it copies over the full, complicate system in the form of packages, which it unpacks and instlals after you reboot
[03:37] <SEJeff> slide, Totally different thing
[03:37] <Sepheebear> lvm is not raid
[03:37] <psusi> slide, yes... you can use LVM... but if one drive dies, you loose ALL the data
[03:37] <mark_> i get to the end and get the error message
[03:37] <christi> slide: LVM has some cool stuff indeed
[03:37] <steven_> OMFG
[03:37] <dabaR> mark_: go into a live Ubuntu already.
[03:37] <steven_> ssstormy, still wont work man
[03:37] <slide> grant_, and by fail, do you mean fail totally or what if it just starts to hiccup for a bit and then works again?
[03:37] <mark_> already tried that
[03:37] <Sepheebear> you dont necessarily lose all your data
[03:38] <mark_> but i'll try again
[03:38] <steven_> ssstormy, does audacity support flac?
[03:38] <dabaR> mark_: don't do it!
[03:38] <grant_> slide:  if a hdd fails with lvm and they are all merged together you won't be able to use any of them
[03:38] <pl_ice> sik plug in the hd and then in console type : dmesg  shows all errors etc, should find the hd
[03:38] <mark_> why
[03:38] <mark_> too late
[03:38] <grant_> SEJeff:  the card works fine under windows
[03:38] <steven_> ssstormy, xmms plays the file fine, but audacity doesn't
[03:38] <mark_> i already rebooted
[03:38] <Faithful> Hey... samba on breezy is way behind and has issues with domain logins
[03:38] <slide> grant_, yea, but what if it just fails for a bit and then comes back, will they all be ok?
[03:39] <psusi> slide, possibly
[03:39] <regplus> Is FIRESTARTE FIREWALL installed by default?
[03:39] <chance2105_> Why does gnome-applets replace gnome-cpufreq-applet?  The cpufreq applet included with gnome-applets does not let you _set_ the frequency, just monitor it ...
[03:39] <j2daosh> ok how can i either mount a file so a program thinks its a disc... or change where the program looks for the file?
[03:39] <grant_> slide:  i dont know...probably if you didn't try to write to them or anything
[03:39] <pl_ice> guys is there a package for ubuntu wallpaper tray (wp_tray) ? cant find it
[03:39] <Faithful> samba 3.0.14 vs 3.0.21
[03:39] <sik> pl_ice: something about unknown key codes *shrug*
[03:39] <Linfan> what do i need in order to have my wireless need working on my laptop
[03:39] <psusi> regplus, no
[03:39] <j2daosh> regplus... no
[03:39] <Faithful> debian is upto samba 3.0.20-b4
[03:39] <grant_> SEJeff:  which vid drivers are you using on the 9250?
[03:39] <aconbere> if stage 2 fails, can you just reboot and try again?
[03:39] <pl_ice> sik, u got msofr keyborad :/ got the same errors, but should say that it found usb etc
[03:40] <Faithful> well scrub my box and lose my work I guess.
[03:40] <ssstormy> steven_, hmm... you could try redownloading and installing audacity and liblame
[03:40] <ssstormy> remove them completely first
[03:40] <ssstormy> also, checkthe original file
[03:40] <ssstormy> try playing it in xmms or totem
[03:40] <pl_ice> *microsfot
[03:40] <ssstormy> what fomat is it?
[03:41] <mark_> brb need a smoke
[03:41] <j2daosh> ahh... a smoke
[03:41] <j2daosh> i need one too
[03:41] <j2daosh> brb
[03:41] <sik> pl_ice: k. well it says it found it attached and scanned the hdd
[03:41] <llama32> anyone? how to mount loop device? mount says it cant find /dev/loop*
[03:41] <pl_ice> sik type lsusb
[03:42] <pl_ice> llama32 -o loop
[03:42] <pl_ice> at end
[03:42] <sik> pl_ice: and it shows there's a connection to a usb port being used
[03:42] <llama32> pl_ice: ive got that, it says cant find /dev/loop* though
[03:42] <cafuego> llama32: muount -t <type> -o loop <file> <mountpoint>
[03:42] <cafuego> llama32: Run it as root, then the 'loop' module should auto-load.
[03:43] <Shadyman_> What's up, all?
[03:43] <llama32> cafuego: should it work with sudo or should i open a shell as root?
[03:43] <cafuego> llama32: sudo is fine
[03:43] <pl_ice> llama32 not sure put all line what u typing
[03:43] <Shadyman_> Fuego!
[03:43] <llama32> cafuego: its not working
[03:43] <cafuego> llama32: Did you compile your own kernel?
[03:43] <pl_ice> sik so ur hd is there :) now mount it , smomehow ...
[03:43] <llama32> sudo mount -o loop boot.img disk/
[03:43] <llama32> mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
[03:44] <llama32> cafuego: nup
[03:44] <sik> pl_ice: lol... the somehow is the thing :D
[03:44] <cafuego> llama32: 'sudo modprobe loop'
[03:44] <pl_ice> sudo mount boot.imp /disk -o loop try this
[03:44] <sik> I knew it was there, I'd seen it already. just the working part isn't and I haven't been able to get it mounted yet :/
[03:44] <Shadyman> I'm stuck between two worlds.
[03:44] <llama32> cafuego: gave nothing
[03:44] <cafuego> llama32: that's good. Now try again.
[03:44] <Shadyman> Fedora and Ubuntu, back and forth. I have to admit, Ubuntu is alluring.
[03:45] <llama32> cafuego: ahh, thanks :)
[03:45] <pl_ice> sik u have to find which device is under ...
[03:45] <llama32> cafuego: how do i make i load automatically?
[03:45] <sik> pl_ice: it's labeled as sda, and I saw it in /dev
[03:45] <sik> but when I try mounting I'm getting the fstab and mtab error
[03:46] <cafuego> llama32: add it to /etc/modules
[03:46] <pl_ice> sik , i think i should have a number.. what it says when u try to mount it?
[03:46] <llama32> thanks cafuego
[03:47] <Unity> which metapackage will isntall libstdc++.so.5 for me?
[03:47] <sik> pl_ice: mount: can't find sda in etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[03:47] <jcsmith> ssstormy: any other ideas, everyhing i have found says the refresh rate is correct
[03:47] <Shadyman> So Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the Kubuntu_desktop installed, right?
[03:47] <Shadyman> Or is there more than that.
[03:48] <tipnmo> i recently installled the ati drivers from the repositories... how can i check to see if i did it right
[03:48] <pl_ice> sik try this: sudo mount /dev/sda  /folder_dest
[03:48] <sik> pl_ice: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:49] <Unity> pl_ice, sorry to butt in, but don't you need to specify the partition?
[03:49] <pl_ice> Unity should find it easily
[03:49] <pl_ice> ops ... i mean automatically
[03:50] <pl_ice> sik what partition is hd?
[03:50] <ssstormy> jcsmith, nope... you can look for other common values, incase you have a weird TV
[03:50] <sik> ummm...
[03:50] <ssstormy> also, check the physical connection
[03:50] <sik> there's only one partition on it that I know of
[03:50] <pl_ice> i mean the file system
[03:50] <sorush20> how do I load modules?
[03:51] <sorush20> what is the command for it?
[03:51] <root___> I'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:51] <pl_ice> modprobe module_name
[03:51] <llama32> when i try to unmount something, and it is busy, yet i have nothing using it, how do i unmount it?
[03:51] <sik> pl_ice: hda1 swap partition
[03:51] <sik> pl_ice: that's the filesystem
[03:51] <sethk> llama32, you have to find out why it is busy
[03:51] <pl_ice> llama32 umount -l try with root if it won't work
[03:51] <jdub> existance: best to not IRC as root - jump out and run your client again as your normal user
[03:51] <sethk> llama32, probably a shell has its current directory there
[03:52] <sik> pl_ice: or I think... hate being a newbie T_T
[03:52] <existance> jdub, heh, not sure how to do that from a livecd...
[03:52] <Wilf> http://www.simplyrender.com/Files/xorg will that xorg.conf work with my setup if i change the obvious settings?
[03:52] <llama32> sethk: nup, nothing is using it
[03:52] <pl_ice> sik  the external hard drive, is it ntfs or fat 32 etc..
[03:52] <sethk> llama32, the o/s disagrees.  In a case like this, it is almost always the human who is wrong
[03:52] <nitinshantharam> hey guys any help on mod_rewrite? i want to map http://somewhere.com/page/home to http://somewhere.com/index.php?t=page&q=home i currently have: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/page/(.*)  and   RewriteRule ^/page/(.*) index.php?t=page&q=$1
[03:52] <Unity> sethk, sometimes nautilus holds onto the mounted stuff
[03:52] <existance> I'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:52] <sethk> Unity, yes, that's actually a shell current directory
[03:53] <sethk> Unity, or perhaps just having the directory open, but a good suggestion either way
[03:53] <sik> pl_ice: I haven't done anything to it. I just got the enclosure today and put my hd in right out o f the box >.>
[03:53] <pl_ice> sik , then probably why it's not mountin it couse no file system is on it :)
[03:53] <sik> pl_ice: oh.... umm... how do I fix that? (stupid nub face)
[03:54] <Unity> sethk; i usually have success with `sudo killall nautilus` then `sudo umount blah` one sec later since nautilus bounces back
[03:54] <jcsmith> ssstormy: I've tried several values and 60 is the only one that X will even start with
[03:54] <pl_ice> sik , better read about it on the forum etc. u should use fdisk or so, read manual before!!!!
[03:54] <sethk> Unity, ok.  you an do this, to avoid having to type if fast:   sudo kill nautilus; sudo umount blah
[03:54] <durad_> how do I check IP via console?
[03:55] <sik> good point.. thanks!
[03:55] <sethk> Unity, on the same line, that is
[03:55] <sethk> durad_, ifconfig
[03:55] <Shadyman> durad_: ifconfig
[03:55] <sethk> durad_, if it isn't in the path, /sbin/ifconfig
[03:55] <mister_roboto> sethk: you might be able to find the process holding onto it using 'lsof'
[03:55] <ssstormy> jcsmith, what about the values output to the TV?
[03:55] <ara> i mounted my 2nd hard drive and it was working perfectly, i restarted ubuntu and it's not finding my hard again , do i have to mount it everytime i shut the pc down?
[03:55] <ssstormy> are they automatically the same as your monitor's refresh rate?
[03:55] <Danielle> hi, i'm brand new to LInux. kcontrol broke my system fonts, they look really bad now, i enabled  anti-anlising and subpixel hinting too with kcontrol, didn't like it so disabled it again, but the fonts didn't go back. is there a back up file of the old settings i can use. can someone help me? i use Ubuntu.
[03:55] <sethk> mister_roboto, yes, but I'm not the one asking, I was answering.  :)  let's see, who was asking?  llama32
[03:56] <pl_ice> ara yes, put that into /etc/fstab to auto mount it
[03:56] <mister_roboto> sethk: ahhh :)
[03:56] <ssstormy> Danielle, try completely removing the font packages
[03:56] <j2daosh> i got nothing... how am i supposed to install unreal from my iso file? its asking for the install cd which is probably too scratched to work and i dont know how to use the linux cd burner or even where to get one... assuming linux even recognizes my burner as a burner
[03:56] <Unity> sethk i know but i usually have the umount in the history anyway...ut thx
[03:56] <ssstormy> Danielle, and then reinstall them
[03:56] <Danielle> how do i do that?
[03:57] <ssstormy> well because you probably can't remove them well in X
[03:57] <Danielle> do you think i can uninstall kcontrol?
[03:57] <ara> pl_ice, i'm pretty new to linux , can you tell me how?
[03:57] <ssstormy> Danielle, that probably won't help
[03:57] <pl_ice> !iso
[03:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:57] <Madpilot> j2daosh: burning ISOs is easy - find them in your file manager, right-click on them, and select "Burn To Disc" - done
[03:57] <Danielle> oh :(
[03:57] <durad__> thanks
[03:57] <slide> Ok, so does anyone know of a LVM howto? I want to combine 2 drives into 1
[03:57] <ssstormy> do a ctl+alt+F2, and log in
[03:58] <ssstormy> then do ps ax
[03:58] <ssstormy> and kill everything to do with X
[03:58] <pl_ice> ara try ubuntuforums.org heaps of it there, and man fstab, i got to go :)
[03:58] <mister_roboto> slide: google for "lvm howto" shows lots of stuff, oddly enough!
[03:58] <ssstormy> with kill _procces-id_
[03:58] <Danielle> how do i uninstall my font packages? i just spent 2/3 days getting the fonts right for Opera so i don't want to break that too
[03:58] <j2daosh> ok if i burn an iso to dvd so i dont have to waste 6 cd's on unreal... will it still recognize it?
[03:58] <ssstormy> (use shift+pageup/down to scrooll)
[03:58] <DigitalSig> can someones pls tell me how i can install a .rpm package
[03:58] <snowowl> Danielle there is a good HowTo in the Ubuntu Documentation on installing some the Microsoft Font package - Perhaps you could give that a look see too.
[03:58] <ssstormy> Danielle, ooh yikes
[03:58] <ssstormy> well
[03:59] <j2daosh> or is there no way around burning the 6 dics
[03:59] <ssstormy> you use apt-get or dpkg to remove packages
[03:59] <skon> How do I install a new theme I just downloaded?
[03:59] <pglee> digitalsig: convert it to a .deb file with the alien package
[03:59] <slide> misfit_toy, actually, NOT.... most are way outdated (years old), or in other languages, or simply suck. ty, come again.
[03:59] <ilba7r> digitalsig you will most probably find a deb file for your package but alien is what you are looking for
[03:59] <pl_ice> DigitalSig dpkg -i package
[03:59] <Shadyman> j2daosh: You've got 6 ISO files, right?
[03:59] <Madpilot> Danielle: you're running Gnome?
[03:59] <Epix> Danielle: man apt-get
[04:00] <j2daosh> no... i combined them into one big 3.6 gig file
[04:00] <Shadyman> j2daosh: Oh.
[04:00] <j2daosh> easier to manage when im backing everything up to external harddrive
[04:00] <mister_roboto> slide: ummm... u don't have to be an asshole when someone just trying to help
[04:00] <Madpilot> Danielle: assuming you are, go System menu --> Prefs --> Font and pick different system fonts for Gnome (or reset them, either way...)
[04:00] <pglee> is it bad to get a bunch of "differ in signedness" warnings in a 2.6.10 kernel compile?
[04:00] <j2daosh> when i unarchive it it is back in 6 disc form
[04:00] <Danielle> i did a whole thread of 14 posts with just me in it. :D i already have the MS fonts installed should uninstall EVERY font then reinstall? yes gnome i'll have a look at apt get too but i know how to uninstall i'm just not sure what to uninstall
[04:00] <Epix> Danielle: or, if you are using Ubuntu (not Kubutu), try the Synaptic package manager. Find it on one of the menus on your desktop
[04:01] <Danielle> MS fonts
[04:01] <j2daosh> why?
[04:01] <Danielle> i'm using Ubuntu ;)
[04:01] <ssstormy> Epix, one problem
[04:01] <ilba7r> danielle msttcorefonts is the package you are looking for
[04:01] <slide> misfit_toy, look in the mirror please, the 'oddly enough' was rude imo
[04:01] <mister_roboto> slide: it's pretty obvious you didn't even try to search though because there is a LOT of info on LVM findable on google, in modern wikis
[04:01] <ssstormy> would it get screwed because the fonts are being removed
[04:01] <Danielle> OK thanks i'll do it now.
[04:01] <ssstormy> ?
[04:01] <Epix> ssstormy: yeus?
[04:02] <j2daosh> shady... what was your idea concerning the 6 discs?
[04:02] <guest_> Is there a way to recover from a "sudo rm -r /*" without reinstalling?
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> hahahaha
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> ... yes
[04:02] <lucasd> is there any chance to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> .. restore from backup
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> oh, you don't have a backup?
[04:02] <ssstormy> guest_, no because you just deleted the whole freaking system
[04:02] <R0bNyc> how can 1 get the latest kernel while using breezy
[04:03] <ara> can someone tell me how can i put a command into /etc/fstab please?
[04:03] <dvtool> How to I get admin rights in terminal?
[04:03] <y_o_u> hi, hope everyone is well. need help please. i am trying to install a Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card onto kubuntu. after installing ndiswrapper and walking through the wiki guide install, i run into an error with it detecting the driver and device (even though I am using the exact same card and driver used in the howto). i am stumped, need some help. please dont make me grovel.
[04:03] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, add the universe and multiverse in synaptic
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !suso
[04:03] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: Are you smoking crack?
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !sudo
[04:03] <ssstormy> and just search kernel
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> !tell dvtool about sudo
[04:03] <j2daosh> ara sudo
[04:03] <j2daosh> dvtool i mean
[04:03] <Danielle> before i uninstall the fonts i just want to say that it's not internet -Opera probelms i have but desktop problems. so the uninstall Install MS fonts should fix that?
[04:03] <R0bNyc> ssstormy, im on breezy and the universe and multiverse is added
[04:03] <guest_> ssstormy: I cntrl-c it while it was doin /dev, so I have everything alphabetically from dev down, including my /home
[04:03] <j2daosh> ara sudo vi /etc/fstab
[04:04] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, just search for kernel
[04:04] <j2daosh> then type your params
[04:04] <ara> j2daosh, that's the complete command?
[04:04] <ssstormy> guest_, well lesse
[04:04] <Madpilot> Danielle: maybe - you shouldn't even need the MS fonts to get good display fonts in Ubuntu...
[04:04] <ssstormy> you need /boot /bin and /debbootstrap
[04:04] <j2daosh> ara, yes..it will load fstab into vi and you can manually edit the fstab
[04:05] <dvtool> thanks!!!!!!
[04:05] <Danielle> the probelm was i use kcontrol to enable subpixel hinting and anti-anlising but it looked really pixelated so i deisable it but it stayed the same
[04:05] <ssstormy> guest_, reinstalling oyur kernel package, and reinstlaling the boot manager will fix /boot
[04:05] <y_o_u> anyone, help with a wireless card driver, please?
[04:05] <ssstormy> but you have to do a mkdir /boot
[04:05] <lucasd> can somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:05] <dvtool> can anybody check what is default CHMOD for Samba folder? (/etc/Samba)  ????
[04:05] <lleberg> Ha, after lots of trouble, i have got ubunti going :P
[04:05] <Danielle> that's ONLY for the desktop NOT internet
[04:05] <ssstormy> guest_, and for /bin you should reinstall all the core packages
[04:06] <R0bNyc> ssstormy, i dont see it =\
[04:06] <ssstormy> guest_, you might as well login as root
[04:06] <ssstormy> R0bNyc, one sec
[04:06] <SpaceBass> evening
[04:07] <snowowl> Danielle you still there -- If you are - I just did a little research on you problem and appearently the fix ( as I read from some threads) was reinstalling Kdebase3
[04:07] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell guest_ about sudoroot
[04:07] <guest_> ssstormy: I might as well do complete reinstall, aren't all my custom installed packages gone now?
[04:07] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell guest_ about rootsudo
[04:07] <smo> daft question, where's pastebin? (ie, URL?)
[04:07] <Shadyman> !pastebin
[04:07] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:07] <smo> Thanks
[04:07] <Shadyman> :)
[04:08] <SpaceBass> I set-up a dual boot system then blew away the ubuntu drive in Windows... now I get a grub error -17... to be fair I'm considerably more proficient in windows, but I've tried everything I know (recovery console- fixboot, fixmbr)... I cannot remember if I installed grub in the MBR or the first sector... anyone have hints?
[04:08] <Shadyman> I love Ubotu. He's so helpful.
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, nope
[04:08] <y_o_u> anyone here, help with a wireless PCI card driver problem? *getting on my knees* please...
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, you didn't loose /home or /usr
[04:08] <Danielle> snowowl: i'm here. sorry but you did see it's only for the desktop and not the internet
[04:08] <kalin> could anybody tell me if it's posible playing gunbound over linux?
[04:08] <sklav> SpaceBass, u trying to recover windows?
[04:08] <ssstormy> guest_, unless it didn't go alphabetical
[04:08] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell y_o_u about ndiswrapper
[04:08] <SpaceBass> sklav:  desperatly
[04:09] <Shadyman> y_o_u: What's the problem?
[04:09] <lucasd> can somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:09] <sklav> u positive you did not destroy the windows partition?
[04:09] <SpaceBass> sklav:  I broke down and bought a 2nd box to run ubuntu on, so I didn;t need to dual boot anymore
[04:09] <ssstormy> guest_, home usr etc     those are the 3 most important for customization/config
[04:09] <SpaceBass> sklav: 100% sure the windows parititon is still there
[04:09] <sklav> when using recovery console in windows from the cd
[04:09] <guest_> ssstormy: youre right, I still have those
[04:09] <smo> guest_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6294   That's what packages populate my /bin (on breezy).  Given that, a linux-image-* package, reconstruction of your menu.lst for grub, and grub-install .. you may save your hide
[04:09] <guest_> yeah, still have those
[04:09] <sklav> it asks you to select your windows installation
[04:09] <sklav> then to login
[04:09] <sklav> did you get that far?
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav: yeah... thats what I used, can get to the c:\ prompt
[04:10] <pglee> somebody: should i use gcc 3.4 or gcc 4 to build a 2.6 kernel?
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <sklav> ok
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <Danielle> Kdebase3 not in synaptic :( you don't think i should try and uninstall kcontrol then reboot. where can i get Kdebase3? is there a KDE place i can go to?
[04:10] <kalin> =(
[04:10] <sklav> type FIXMBR
[04:10] <Shadyman> !spam
[04:10] <ubotu> Shadyman: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:10] <guest_> smo: actually /etc is gone
[04:10] <lucasd> can somebody tell me if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?
[04:10] <Shadyman> ubotu: Yes.
[04:10] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, shadyman?
[04:10] <kalin> jeje
[04:10] <kalin> oops
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav:  and I can run bootcfg /scan  and it finds the windows install
[04:10] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, what happens if you dir in c:\?
[04:10] <Shadyman> !enter
[04:10] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:10] <kalin> no clam down
[04:10] <SpaceBass> sklav: yeah I ran fixmbr and fixboot ... several times... no dice
[04:10] <y_o_u> shady: i installed ndiswrapper, seemed ok. then installed the drivers like the howto said. seems fine. when i check to see what is installed, it tells me that there is an invalid driver. when i try to uninstall driver, says it is not installed. when i try to reinstall, it says that it is already installed. going around in circles, just not sure where to look next
[04:11] <sklav> hum
[04:11] <snowowl> Dan - In synaptic its called kdebase
[04:11] <sethk> y_o_u, try installing with force.  That will install it even if it believes it to be already installed
[04:11] <kalin> is there anybody free to help me?
[04:11] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, does the computer just not boot after fixboot / fixmbr, or does grub still show up?
[04:11] <kalin> =(
[04:11] <Shadyman> kalin: What's wrong, is the smiley button broken?
[04:11] <SpaceBass> sklav:  now that being said... the drive is on a 3rd party ATA controller and I don't have the floppy with the drivers... so I pulled the drive and threw it in a USB inclosure... not sure if that would matter
[04:11] <kalin> jehehe
[04:11] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  i get a -17 when grub loads
[04:11] <kalin> sorry man
[04:11] <Shadyman> ;)
[04:12] <dvtool> !tell dvtool about samba
[04:12] <smo> guest_: Then (imho) you probably want to save /home somewhere (and maybe /var if you use mysql & such), and start again
[04:12] <y_o_u> sethk, what command installs with force?
[04:12] <ssstormy> where is your windows partition?
[04:12] <mark_> dabaR,  u still here?
[04:12] <kalin> i want to play gunbound over linux
[04:12] <ssstormy> hda1,2,3,4?
[04:12] <sethk> y_o_u, you can do it with dpkg.  I think also with apt-get
[04:12] <DigitalSig> ok, i got another problem, ive forgotten my su password, infact i dont remeber ever putting one in.. is there any way i can find out what it would be?
[04:12] <Shadyman> kalin: You'd have to check the gunbound site, then.
[04:12] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  hda1
[04:12] <Shadyman> kalin: Otherwise, try installing Wine.
[04:12] <kalin> wine??
[04:12] <ssstormy> find someone with windows instlaled on hda1
[04:12] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: use sudo, not su, and your own user pw
[04:12] <kalin> where can i find it?
[04:12] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell kalin about wine
[04:12] <SpaceBass> btw-  I realize the hypocracy of coming here for help recovering windows... and I appericate it
[04:12] <DigitalSig> ahh thanks madpilot
[04:12] <Madpilot> !tell DigitalSig about sudo
[04:13] <y_o_u> thanks, i will try now...
[04:13] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  why would that help?
[04:13] <ssstormy> get them to do a dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=./winxp_mbr
[04:13] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  ahhh gotcha
[04:13] <ssstormy> then try using linux to dd if=./winxp_mbr of=/dev/hda
[04:13] <ssstormy> oh oops
[04:13] <ssstormy> on command #1
[04:13] <ssstormy> dd if=/dev/hda
[04:13] <ssstormy> not hda1
[04:14] <snowowl> SpaceBass it not Hypocracy but called common sense - long live linux
[04:14] <dvtool> how do I ask Ubotu to tell me about Samba?
[04:14] <cafuego> ssstormy: Why not just use the mbr package?
[04:14] <Danielle> if i have Kdebase3 on my system and i search in Places>Search for files ...File System shoudl it be found?
[04:14] <DigitalSig> madpilot, im asked to insert switches for the sudo command :/
[04:14] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  I have my new ubuntu box I can use for that... and a spare HD... I guess I could pull the ubuntu HD and then load XP then do the dd
[04:14] <ssstormy> cafuego, as best I know that ocmputer dosn't even have linux isntalled
[04:14] <cafuego> 'ms-sys' even.
[04:14] <DigitalSig> i need to get root priveldges
[04:14] <cafuego> ssstormy: Then 'dd' won't work either.
[04:14] <sklav> SpaceBass, you did fixboot c:
[04:15] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  correct, the box in question 'lost' its linux partitions (and by lost I mean I wiped them)
[04:15] <ssstormy> cafuego, oh yes it will- from a boot disk, or the ubuntu install disk
[04:15] <Epix> is there a nice easy visual grub config tool in ubuntu?
[04:15] <cafuego> ssstormy: The livecd happily runs ms-sys too.
[04:15] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: read the URL the bot sent you - basically, stick "sudo" in front of the commands you want to use - "sudo mv foo /var/www/foo" etc
[04:15] <guest_> so smo and ssstormy , looks like a complete reinstall right?  luckily my /home is on another partition
[04:15] <sklav> you must specify the drive
[04:15] <SpaceBass> sklav well.... I did fixboot, I didn't specify the drive... and if its that simple I'm going to kick my self in the nuts
[04:15] <sklav> u must specify the drive
[04:15] <Madpilot> DigitalSig: also, "man sudo"
[04:15] <ssstormy> cafuego, my point is it has no linux so he needs a boot media, and can't install mbr package (or can he?)
[04:16] <SpaceBass> sklav: I mean... I'd never run fidisk with out the drive or mount with out the dev ... not sure why I'd be that dumb
[04:16] <sklav> SpaceBass, try both commands again but make sure you specify the drive for fixboot and fixmbr
[04:16] <psusi> if you are trying to remove grub, you want fixmbr, not fixboot
[04:16] <ssstormy> guest_, it depends on how bad you want to keep your old install
[04:16] <sklav> fixmbr c:
[04:16] <cafuego> ssstormy: If he's a got a livecd he can.
[04:16] <sklav> and fixboot c:
[04:16] <ssstormy> guest_, /bin is pretty easily replaced; not touched often
[04:16] <h4x> whats a good C++ compiler for ubuntu?
[04:16] <SpaceBass> sklav: thanks
[04:16] <sklav> np
[04:16] <cafuego> h4x: gcc
[04:16] <Epix> as in, I want to add a windows partition to the grub menu. can i easly do it?
[04:16] <h4x> is that in the repository?
[04:16] <ssstormy> cafuego, you can instlal packages on a RAMdisk ubuntu?
[04:16] <SpaceBass> I did think about a live CD (knoppix or ubuntu)... but was trying to keep it simple first
[04:16] <cafuego> ssstormy: Yep
[04:16] <guest_> ssstormy: what about /etc ?
[04:17] <h4x> thank you: cafuego
[04:17] <ssstormy> Epix, i can't help with grub, but lilo i know
[04:17] <j2daosh> holy crap... i got the fake boot of an iso figured out finally... well i wont be forgetting how to do that anytime soon
[04:17] <j2daosh> thanks for all your help guys
[04:17] <ssstormy> guest_, you lost that?  that's bad.. you'll ahve to reinstall most of your packages
[04:17] <j2daosh> gimme afew hours and ill be back in here with another noob question
[04:17] <sklav> SpaceBass, any luck?
[04:17] <Epix> anyone know grub?
[04:17] <sklav> j2daosh, awesome then one day u might answer my noob questions
[04:17] <sklav> hehe
[04:17] <SpaceBass> sklav & ssstormy ... thanks! I'm going to try fixmbr and fixboot with the drive specified (and smack myself), if that doesnt work, I'll copy the ./xp_mbr from a working drive
[04:17] <j2daosh> lol skla
[04:18] <psusi> ssstormy, you should try grub... I was used to lilo from way back in the day too... but finally tried grub, it it wtfpwn's lilo
[04:18] <j2daosh> well what questions do you have?
[04:18] <SpaceBass> sklav:  I'm in front of the TV right now... left my office when I got uber fustrated... going to go try again now
[04:18] <Epix> j2daosh: newb questions are the best. they are the easiest to answer! thats my speciality.
[04:18] <sklav> ok
[04:18] <ssstormy> psusi, well grub is awsome, but i need lilo
[04:18] <j2daosh> lol epix
[04:18] <psusi> ssstormy, what for?
[04:18] <ssstormy> I screw over my system so often
[04:18] <ssstormy> i need to ahve control over it all the way
[04:18] <sklav> SpaceBass, if in question use the map option to figure out what name windows wants
[04:19] <psusi> that's why I love grub... you screw up lilo.conf, and it's insert boot disk time... screw up menu.lst, and you can manually command grub how to boot correctly
[04:19] <Epix> ssstormy: liveCD's are god.
[04:19] <ssstormy> grub just didn't cut it once the problems started rolling in
[04:19] <sklav> just in case ;)
[04:19] <rick> hi+
[04:19] <rick> hello there
[04:19] <sklav> ssstormy, grub is awesome after you figure out some of it cool options
[04:19] <sklav> editing on the fly has saved me 100+ times
[04:19] <WorstPhobia> What's a good Linux backup program? Someone told me of one earlier but I forgot...
[04:19] <ssstormy> psusi, nah, most importantly I don't know all the syntax etc, while I do understand lilo's inner workings
[04:19] <j2daosh> ok... quick question before i head out... what can windows do that linux cant?
[04:19] <rick> gf
[04:19] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, dd
[04:20] <SpaceBass> I got a nice new g5 mac for my b-day yesterday and was in the process of changing some disk stuff in prep for migrating from XP on the desktop to os x ... and badda boom I wiped my ubuntu partition... thats how it all started
[04:20] <rick> does someone speak spanish?
[04:20] <sklav> ssstormy, very simlar to lilo
[04:20] <guest_> ok, thx ssstormy , this is sad, was about to backup root today
[04:20] <Madpilot> j2daosh: catch viruses :P
[04:20] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, dd if=/dev/hda of=./disk_backup
[04:20] <WorstPhobia> j2daosh: Offer free stuff
[04:20] <rick> SOMEONE?
[04:20] <Epix> psusi: do you remember offhand the commands to do a windows boot?
[04:20] <sklav> join #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <psusi> ssstormy, I have the exact reverse experience... when I first tried grub I got the kernel options wrong and the system wouldn't boot... but I could manually tell grub the correct way to boot and didn't need a boot disk... I fell in love with grub because of that ;)
[04:20] <mister_roboto> j2daosh: play games well :)
[04:20] <SpaceBass> but I haven't needed the ubutntu part since I bought a dedicated box for it
[04:20] <rick> SPANISH?SPANISH?SPANISH?
[04:20] <cafuego> j2daosh: Run a lot o copy-protected Windows-only games.
[04:20] <cafuego> rick: Stop spamming.
[04:20] <Madpilot> !es
[04:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <WorstPhobia> ssstormy: I'll see...
[04:20] <WorstPhobia> ssstormy: Thanks.
[04:20] <psusi> Epic, root then chainload iirc
[04:20] <rick> KISS MY ASS!!
[04:20] <cafuego> rick: Go away.
[04:20] <Epix> !ban rick
[04:20] <ubotu> Epix: Are you smoking crack?
[04:21] <sklav> rick, "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:21] <Epix> aww, it doesnt work?
[04:21] <Epix> :P
[04:21] <rick> WHY SHOULD I
[04:21] <rick> U ARE ...
[04:21] <Epix> he obiously speaks english...
[04:21] <cafuego> rick: 1) You're yelling. 2) You're being rude.
[04:21] <NeoNmaN> hallo i need help...
[04:21] <j2daosh> ok so windows can play games....thats all it has on linux?
[04:21] <rick> how old are u?
[04:21] <Epix> even though its crappy, capslocked english
[04:21] <ssstormy> WorstPhobia, it will make a perfect copy of your drive
[04:21] <rick> u look some old guy
[04:21] <cafuego> rick: About twice your age,I would guess.
[04:21] <cbb> hey.. does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:21] <Epix> j2daosh: well, windows costs more.
[04:21] <psusi> ssstormy, yea... I did the same thing... when I installed ubuntu I had no idea how to use grub, so I just went with lilo.. ended up having to patch the lilo sources and come up with a VERY interesting lilo.conf using the use-bios-codes and disk= parameters to get my system to boot
[04:21] <sklav> !tell rick about ubuntu spanish
[04:21] <rick> i am 20
[04:21] <SpaceBass> j2daosh:  and arguably (I'm going to get flamed) itunes and outlook
[04:22] <ssstormy> j2daosh, it has a few things
[04:22] <j2daosh> hey rick... the question is how old are you? if you want help knock it off... if not... get out and go somewhere were your type of attitude is welcome
[04:22] <ssstormy> wide use
[04:22] <cafuego> rick: Then act like it.
[04:22] <ssstormy> apps
[04:22] <rick> o.k slklav
[04:22] <ssstormy> like iTunes
[04:22] <psusi> ssstormy, then I spent a few hours reading about how grub works, and gave it a shot... worked fine
[04:22] <pl_ice> rick go off topic to chit chat
[04:22] <ssstormy> not to say gtkpod is bad
[04:22] <NeoNmaN> why is my CPU load 100% when i move xwindow around on my screen..... i think its is gfx problem bot im not sure
[04:22] <ssstormy> but if you need iTunes you're dead
[04:22] <sklav> !tell rick about #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <j2daosh> outlook sucks... itunes... lol i got my cd's
[04:22] <rick> I WANNA BE A SUPERMAN
[04:22] <SpaceBass> ssstormy:  yep!
[04:22] <cafuego> ssstormy: iTunes runs fine in cxoffice.
[04:22] <psusi> ssstormy, once I learned to use it, getting it to work on my weird system was much easier than lilo
[04:22] <rick> I WANNA BE A RONEY STAR
[04:22] <rick> LALALALA LAALLALA
[04:22] <cafuego> !ops
[04:22] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:22] <Epix> j2daosh: so if you like spending lots of cash windows is a good option. I mean once you got the OS, you get sucked into buying the antivirus stuff and anti-spyware etc...
[04:22] <ssstormy> psusi, well I'm lazy... I liked the live edit, but lilo's working and I haven't killed it again yet
[04:22] <Kyral> rick STFU
[04:22] <Madpilot> sklav: try just !es
[04:22] <rick> U STUPIDS GUYS
[04:22] <SpaceBass> cafuego:  not 6.1 (or does it?)
[04:22] <llama32> SpaceBase: outlook is shit, as buggy as ie
[04:22] <sklav> ok
[04:22] <cafuego> rick: bye
[04:22] <sklav> hehe
[04:22] <ssstormy> cafuego, do you have to pay for cxoffice/
[04:23] <sklav> !es
[04:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:23] <sklav> nice
[04:23] <j2daosh> lol epix... i dont buy windows or the software to go with it
[04:23] <GTroy> !sources.list
[04:23] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:23] <cafuego> ssstormy: Costs a lot les than windows xp.
[04:23] <SEJeff> psusi, grub is great once you get used to it
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, j2daosh, ssstormy: SharpMusique works for iTunes on Linux.
[04:23] <SpaceBass> outlook is great and gets a bad rap... and it works better with exchange than anything else
[04:23] <Epix> rick: good night.
[04:23] <cbb>  does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:23] <cafuego> nalioth: cheers
[04:23] <ssstormy> Epix actually you learn how to get free protection
[04:23] <SEJeff> psusi, And grub 2 supports scripting believe it or not
[04:23] <ssstormy> like I always said
[04:23] <psusi> ssstormy, hehe... yea... sometime when you're bored though, take a few to read the grub manual... and when you're really board, give it a try...
[04:23] <ssstormy> you don't get protection on the internet
[04:23] <ssstormy> you make your own
[04:23] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso:  but will it play music store DRM songs
[04:23] <Epix> ssstormy: :P , pratice safe computing.
[04:23] <j2daosh> i dont like outlook... takes too much memory and now you cant even send an executable
[04:23] <ssstormy> psusi, will do
[04:23] <cafuego> cbb: Atheros cards should be picked up automagically.
[04:23] <psusi> SEJeff, yea... once I figured out how to use it, it kicks ass
[04:23] <j2daosh> not without renaming it to something outlook doesn't know first
[04:24] <dvtool> How to restart Samba from terminal?
[04:24] <ssstormy> cafuego, I haven't paid a dime yet for any of my software
[04:24] <cbb> .
[04:24] <SpaceBass> j2daosh:  you can send an .exe thats totally configurable
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, I think so.  Haven't tried it out much.
[04:24] <sklav> SpaceBass, Outlook is a bit of a memory hog
[04:24] <cbb>  does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?
[04:24] <sklav> im an admin at work
[04:24] <SpaceBass> sklav:  true that!
[04:24] <j2daosh> SpaceBass, not in 2003
[04:24] <sklav> for the exchange server
[04:24] <ssstormy> j2daosh, that's another
[04:24] <cafuego> ssstormy: If you bought a Pod you did ;-)
[04:24] <sklav> i hate it
[04:24] <ssstormy> drivesr
[04:24] <ssstormy> *drivers
[04:24] <sklav> MS figured a transactionign systems was needed for email
[04:24] <pl_ice> this : /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:24] <ssstormy> companies always make drivers for windows first
[04:24] <SpaceBass> outlook is a memory pig... I agree... but for something to work with exchange (including calendar, etc) it works well (as designed, I guess)
[04:24] <j2daosh> they made outlook that way because of the melissa virus
[04:24] <cbb> 587 people in here and no one can answer one question
[04:24] <ssstormy> linux communtiy will take a little while to write one
[04:24] <sklav> yes it does work
[04:25] <sklav> im not sure about the well par t;)
[04:25] <j2daosh> cbb... all i saw was a .
[04:25] <sklav> im not sure about the well part ;)
[04:25] <cafuego> cbb: I answered it already.
[04:25] <ssstormy> cafuego, well I didn't buy it for the software- heck, I installed ipod-linux on it XP
[04:25] <j2daosh> and cafe already got you
[04:25] <SpaceBass> I've tried evolution and mail.app (os x), etc... but I prefer the hog
[04:25] <sklav> ipod-linux?
[04:25] <sklav> hum
[04:25] <ssstormy> sklav, oh yeah
[04:25] <psusi> SEJeff, I love how it understands the filesystem so you don't have to reinstall the MBR to update the sector maps of your kernel when you change it
[04:25] <cafuego> ssstormy: You paid the license fee for the mp3 codec when you paid for the pod, though.
[04:25] <cbb> cafuego: sorry, didn't see that. but if it picks up my card, is there software to pick up access points?
[04:25] <ssstormy> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[04:25] <SpaceBass> I dont get apple's reluctance to release itunes of linux... but thats another issue
[04:25] <dvtool> I Use Opera email
[04:26] <evanbro_> are there any official 80x15 images for linking to ubuntu?
[04:26] <evanbro_> (or unofficial)
[04:26] <ssstormy> cafuego, ah but see the hd came blank...
[04:26] <cafuego> cbb: There should be, I've never used an atheros based card so I don't know if stuff like kismet works with them.
[04:26] <ssstormy> not really! :)
[04:26] <sklav> itunes for linux would rock but figure with OS X being relased on i386 platform this year
[04:26] <Epix> ssstormy: is iPL any good, i havent looked at it for a long while
[04:26] <sklav> it will be ported at some point
[04:26] <ssstormy> Epix, it's gotten much much better
[04:27] <cbb> cafuego: okay, thanks man
[04:27] <pl_ice> evanbro_ i think so, found them yesterday...
[04:27] <Epix> ssstormy: second gen mini support yet?
[04:27] <SpaceBass> sklav:  yeah, I suspect the x86 port of os x will help a lot in that regard
[04:27] <ssstormy> cafuego, I guess you got me there
[04:27] <ssstormy> that makes 1x in my life
[04:27] <ssstormy> Epix, yup
[04:27] <ara> trying to hook my second hard and it says " unknown filesystem type '/dev/hdb1'" what am i missing in the command?
[04:27] <ssstormy> support for all but the newest 2
[04:27] <SpaceBass> maybe then I can get off Active Directory and windows for good
[04:28] <ssstormy> although they are already running linux kernels on the little one
[04:28] <robitaille> evanbro_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[04:28] <cafuego> SpaceBass: Last I heard samba and ldap already did that nonsense.
[04:28] <SpaceBass> anway- thaks again ssstormy  and sklav  ... I'm going to go try specifying the drive and see if I cannot clear my grub issue
[04:28] <evanbro_> robitaille: thanks much
[04:28] <SpaceBass> cafuego: true... I tend to sell things like openldap short
[04:28] <ssstormy> SpaceBass, hope it helps
[04:29] <WorstPhobia> What's a good application for sticky notes?
[04:29] <cafuego> SpaceBass: ANything not fedora has to be good.
[04:29] <SpaceBass> centos :) ?
[04:29] <cafuego> WorstPhobia: right click the panel, choose add to panel..., choose sticky notes.
[04:30] <sklav> been using rpm distros for years
[04:30] <mcscruff> does anyone know what package provides libacl
[04:30] <sklav> i kinda like the deb system
[04:30] <sklav> call me lazy
[04:30] <pl_ice> lazy :)
[04:30] <sklav> hehe
[04:30] <cafuego> sklav: /nick lazy
[04:30] <sklav> yup lazy
[04:31] <robitaille> mcscruff,  libacl1
[04:31] <Madpilot> WorstPhobia: try Tomboy
[04:31] <cafuego> if you were truly lazy you wouldn't have done that
[04:31] <robitaille> mcscruff, ,  http://packages.ubuntu.com is great for finding things like that
[04:31] <cafuego> hmm
[04:31] <sklav> oh well not lazy enough i guess
[04:31] <tipnmo> would someone be willing to help me with an apparent ati driver issue
[04:32] <tipnmo> i am very new to ubuntu and i cant figure out what i am doing wrong
[04:32] <kris> whois s
[04:32] <tipnmo> i followed a guide on the ubuntu forums but when running the cedega system test i fail 3d accl
[04:32] <pl_ice> ara u said that u mounted the hardrive once manualy, can u please give it here, i'll change it so it fits fstab
[04:32] <renato> \j #ubuntu-br
[04:32] <sklav> tipnmo, does ati like nvidia have ati-glx-config enable option?
[04:33] <sklav> im guessing mind you
[04:33] <WorstPhobia> Thanks Madpilot
[04:33] <tipnmo> i have no idea
[04:33] <renato> \j #ubuntu-br
[04:33] <ara> pl_ice , i'm trying to use the same command but it wont work, i guess i forgot the command
[04:33] <tipnmo> sklav, i have no clue.. this is my first install with a linux distro
[04:34] <DigitalSig> thank u all for your help.
[04:34] <sklav> tipnmo, check out this site
[04:34] <pl_ice> ara, give me the filesystem of hd and which hard drive it is, where u want to mount it
[04:34] <sklav> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ati%29
[04:34] <pl_ice> sklav any good chicks on it? :>
[04:34] <brother_of_jared> Greets...
[04:35] <sklav> pay attention to the version
[04:35] <chance2105_> Aight.  My ubuntu install ended up somehow not having an admin group, and my user didn't get added to it.  I tried adding the admin group, and then adding my regular user to it, with no luck.  Is this fixable?
[04:35] <ara> pl_ice , /dev/hdb1 mount to /home/ara/mymedia
[04:35] <sklav> as for chicks pl_ice i think 1 wrote it
[04:35] <sklav> hehe
[04:35] <pl_ice> ara and is it ntfs or fat32 or ext3 etc ?
[04:35] <brother_of_jared> I could use some help on setting up mysql-server... specifically the part that talks about configuring the "localhost.localdomain" any one up for it?
[04:35] <ara> ntfs
[04:35] <sklav> pl_ice, use the auto option
[04:35] <ara> pl_ice ntfs
[04:36] <pl_ice> ok
[04:36] <Toma-> chance2105_: have you tried using System > Admin > Users and Groups, then adding the group there?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone help me recover console switching?  I can't do it anymore.
[04:37] <pl_ice> ara  try in console first: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /home/ara/mymedia
[04:37] <sklav> tonyyarusso, edit the /etc/inittab and change runlevel from 5 to 3
[04:37] <sklav> that will fix it
[04:37] <MrPPV> Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure
[04:37] <brother_of_jared> Any takers on that one about configuring PostFix?
[04:37] <MrPPV> how can i resolve this error?
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> sklav, What does that do?  (So I can understand for later.)
[04:37] <sklav> its allows fro multiple terminals
[04:37] <MrPPV> it appers when i try to start the computer
[04:37] <MrPPV> :X
[04:38] <sklav> while runlevel 5 doesnt
[04:38] <sklav> its in the docs
[04:38] <sklav> i read it last time
[04:38] <ara> pl_ice ok it worked
[04:38] <sklav> that is what im doing
[04:38] <GTroy> man what a pain it is if you don't have 3rd party support for your repos!
[04:38] <brother_of_jared> <--- needs a hand on this please...
[04:38] <sarooo> necesito ayuda
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> sklav, So probably something changed to file from 3 before to 5?
[04:38] <MrPPV> somebody?
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> sklav, And do I need to reboot or something for that to take effect?
[04:38] <MrPPV> :(
[04:38] <sklav> ino reboot needed
[04:39] <sklav> just run init 3
[04:39] <sklav> on command line
[04:39] <sklav> and it will be done
[04:39] <pl_ice> ara edit /etc/fstab and put :  /dev/hdb1       /home/ara/mymdeia          ntfs    ro,user,nosuid  0        0
[04:39] <pl_ice> i assume that mymedia is empty folder, ready to mount ...
[04:39] <sklav> sudo init 3
[04:39] <sklav> to be exact
[04:39] <ara> pl_ice let me try
[04:39] <brother_of_jared> anyone?
[04:40] <sklav> brother_of_jared, what is the postfix issue?
[04:40] <brother_of_jared> I am doing my first install
[04:40] <pl_ice> sklav i though u're lazy ;)
[04:40] <sklav> lol
[04:40] <sklav> so did i
[04:40] <sklav> its quite amazing
[04:40] <brother_of_jared> not certain what I put for the localhost.localdomain
[04:40] <sklav> honestly
[04:40] <WorstPhobia> Madpilot, do you know of any apps that are more like Post-it note apps?
[04:40] <pl_ice> lol
[04:40] <sklav> brother_of_jared, put your computer name or domain name that u want example mail.brotherorjared.com
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Is the line id:#:initdefault: what you're referring to?
[04:41] <sklav> yes tonyyarusso
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Mine says 2 right now, not 5.
[04:41] <brother_of_jared> I guess my first question to answer is the overall config.. like internet site or internet with smarthost
[04:41] <sarooo> how i can obtain the grub menu, after install windows xp ???????????
[04:41] <sklav> weird
[04:41] <sklav> mine says 2 also
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Interesting.
[04:42] <psusi> sarooo, reinstall it
[04:42] <brother_of_jared> sklav // so localhost could be jared and domain then would be com so localhost.localdomain could be jared.com
 sarooo, reinstall it << not is neccesary
[04:43] <sklav> tonyyarusso, try the init 3 option
[04:43] <Amaranth> Seveas: lmao, someone wants you removed from ubuntu-devel
[04:43] <sklav> what is you domain brother_of_jared
[04:43] <chance2105_> Toma-:  Figured it out.  My user was (1) not part of the admin group (that I ended up having to create), and (2) my user was not part of the sudoer's file.  I must have enabled the root account by accident during the install.
[04:43] <sklav> example my domain is sklav.com
[04:43] <sklav> so my hostname is mail.sklav.com
[04:43] <ara> pl_ice hey you forgot to tell me something, umask=1000
[04:44] <brother_of_jared> sklav // not certain.. I've not gone out to purchase one.. I guess I need to?
[04:44] <pl_ice> ara :)
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> sklav, That doesn't seem to have done anything.
[04:44] <sklav> well yes
[04:44] <ara> pl_ice just kidding
[04:44] <MrPPV> Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure - how can i resolve this error in grub?
[04:44] <sklav> unless you want local email than leave it at localhost.localdomain
[04:44] <MrPPV> help.....
[04:44] <pl_ice> ara yeh, we all gettin' old ;)
[04:44] <brother_of_jared> I was hoping to set my system up so I could serve pages or files from here.
[04:44] <psusi> sarooyou asked the question.. I gave the answer... instaling windows trashed grub so you need to reinstall it
[04:45] <psusi> MrPPV, boot from the livecd and fsck the volume... it's damaged
[04:45] <ara> pl_ice i don't know how long is it gonna take me to learn all this command, i want my XP back!!!!
[04:45] <MrPPV> fsck what? :X
[04:45] <MrPPV> n00b here
[04:46] <pl_ice> ara don't :) in couple of month u gonn cruse :)
[04:46] <sklav> later guys
[04:46] <sklav> im off to bed
[04:46] <GTroy> ara: yeah, don't sweat it, after a little while 10.4 cruises
[04:47] <GTroy> even after 10 years of windoze
[04:47] <sklav> brother_of_jared, get a dynamic dns domain name
[04:47] <MrPPV> psusi
[04:47] <pl_ice> u guys seen for gnome random wallpaper changer? can't find any ...
[04:47] <sklav> and setup your systems accordingly with the hostname
[04:47] <sklav> ok as for me im off i speak to u all next time
[04:47] <ara> pl_ice do i have to put that umask=1000 into fstab
[04:47] <GTroy> night skalv
[04:47] <psusi> MrPPV, if the volume in question is /dev/hda1, then boot from the livecd and run sudo fsck /dev/hda1
[04:48] <GTroy> *sklav* even
[04:48] <sklav> GTroy, ?
[04:48] <sklav> hehe
[04:48] <sklav> i saw it
[04:48] <sklav> later GTroy
[04:48] <pl_ice> ara i think so, but ntfs is read only, so i don't think u'll need it... try :)
[04:48] <GTroy> :D
[04:48] <pl_ice> the 'user' is important one
[04:49] <tellim> hi all, im still having problems with dvd playback, it tries to start, have libdvdcss2 and all, but it always fails saying it cant read from the disc in xine....
[04:49] <ara> pl_ice it's giving me this error--> unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[04:50] <pl_ice> ara try sudo gedit /etc/fstab  then add that line btw, did the manual mount worked?
[04:51] <ara> pl_ice yeah the manual mount worked but i can't edit the fstab even if i use sudo
[04:52] <pl_ice> ara , why? ... not sure
[04:52] <stevenj> New installation of breezy - all repos enabled and I get this 'Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <stevenj> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:52] <stevenj> is only available from another source' what the crap??????????
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice  "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[04:52] <psusi> ara, I think you mean uid=1000, not umask=1000
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice this is the error
[04:52] <stevenj> ops
[04:52] <ara> pl_ice no umask=1000
[04:53] <fredforfaen> !sensors
[04:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[04:53] <ara> pl_ice that's what i used last time
[04:53] <psusi> no... 1000 is not a valid umask... umask=777 will make all files r/w/x to everyone... uid=1000 will make the files be owned by the default user ( you )
[04:53] <pl_ice> ara ,shit, don't know u sure the file is not open, yeh psusi is right ...
[04:54] <stevenj> anyone have a clue as to why  msttcorefonts
[04:54] <stevenj>  is not longer in universe??????
[04:54] <pl_ice> stevenj hm, i had them 2 wks ago...
[04:54] <stevenj> now I guess xchat is craping out brb
[04:54] <MrPPV> what is the default password for the root user_
[04:54] <MrPPV> _
[04:54] <SpaceBass> well, I hate to say... still cannot get rid of grub
[04:55] <psusi> tell MrPPV about root
[04:55] <stevenj> pl_ice, check now...they are not there
[04:55] <ara> pl_ice what?
[04:55] <SEJeff> !sudo
[04:55] <SpaceBass> MrPPV:  there is no root user
[04:55] <pl_ice> stevenj it's msttcorefonts
[04:55] <pl_ice> ara keep trying to edit that file ;) not sure what's wrong ...
[04:56] <stevenj> pl_ice, thats what I typed above
[04:56] <ara> pl_ice but this is the command i used last time and it was working perfect
[04:56] <pl_ice> ara u have to put that line i gave to /etc/fstab for automount somehow ...
[04:56] <MrPPV> i tried to do fsck /dev/hda1 but then it showed an error saying that i have no permission
[04:56] <ara> pl_ice should i reboot or what?
[04:56] <MrPPV> >*
[04:57] <psusi> MrPPV, sudo fsck
[04:57] <psusi> MrPPV, you need to prefix it with sudo because it is a privledged operation
[04:57] <MrPPV> oh =P
[04:57] <brother_of_jared> Madpilot // are you here??
[04:57] <MrPPV> sorry )P
[04:57] <SpaceBass> I need some help removing grub from a windows HD... removed the ubuntu partitions from windows and now I get a grub error -17 on boot... tried fixmbr and fixboot from windows recovery
[04:57] <MrPPV> =P
[04:58] <psusi> SpaceBass, fixmbr will fix it
[04:58] <SpaceBass> psusi:  I thought so too, but it didnt
[04:59] <psusi> try fixmbr c: maybe?
[04:59] <shammy> SpaceBass: try fixboot
[04:59] <SpaceBass> psusi:  I tried that
[04:59] <ara> pl_ice ok  i made it work by vi /etc/fstab
[04:59] <psusi> that's fubar... don't know what to tell you
[05:00] <ara> pl_ice i chose the option recover
[05:00] <pl_ice> ara, now sudo umount /home/ara/mymedia or what is it
[05:00] <stevenj> ah they are in multiuniverse
[05:00] <stevenj> hmm
[05:00] <tipnmo> i am having issues getting 3D acceleration issues to work... i have tried several guides now.. followed them exactly... and nothing... i have a x800xt with the latest driver (i think i installed it correctly)
[05:00] <ara> pl_ice do i have to umount it now?
[05:01] <shammy> SpaceBass: if neither fixmbr or fixboot helped then there's definately something else wrong.. but try installing GRUB over it again?
[05:01] <ara> pl_ice how do i exit this screen ,? fstab i mean
[05:01] <pl_ice> couse do now that: to check if fstab is correct . : sudo mount -av
[05:01] <tipnmo> anyone have any ideas.. any way i can diagnose?
[05:01] <JasonOfEarth> I'm having a problem with acpid... I killed it and then tried to run it and it tells me it can't open /proc/acpid/event when I try to sudo cat it it hangs the terminal anybody know what may be using it?
[05:01] <SpaceBass> shammy:  I'm not opposed to re-installing grub... guess I need to research how to do that via a live CD or something thought
[05:01] <pl_ice> ara , in gedit or vi ?
[05:01] <brother_of_jared> Question....
[05:01] <SpaceBass> s/thought/though
[05:02] <ara> vi
[05:02] <pl_ice> :/wq
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, I might have a link for you.
[05:02] <MrPPV> psusi what what should appear?
[05:02] <llama32> mmmmmmm, space cakes
[05:02] <brother_of_jared> If I don't want to use "localhost" but would prefer "brotherofjared" how can I change that?
[05:02] <shammy> SpaceBass: Doesn't have to be grub, jst something that would re-write an MBR so you have something working
[05:02] <pl_ice> brother_of_jared i think it /etc/hosts
[05:02] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: anything would be appericated!
[05:03] <shammy> Is there more wireless support in Breezy? I haven't used ubuntu since hoary and want to go back.
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, talks about re-installing/configuring grub from a Live CD.
[05:03] <brother_of_jared> pl_ice // thanks but I'm not certain how to change it..
[05:03] <pl_ice> can someone find me wp_tray package in gz or something ? can't find it ...
[05:03] <brother_of_jared> This terminal thing is rather cool but plenty to remember.
[05:03] <psusi> MrPPV, it should check the volume out and hopefully fix whatever is wrong with it
[05:03] <tipnmo> when i run fglrxinfo i get
[05:03] <SpaceBass> since I don't have a floppy with the ATA controller card's drivers I've pulled the drive and put it in a usb inclosure... then I remove it and put it back on the controller's IDE chain... I suspect that could be part of the problem too
[05:04] <MrPPV> tnkz
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jarrod it's actually /etc/hostname
[05:04] <ara> pl_ice typr "/wq?
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> just edit it
[05:04] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:04] <brother_of_jared> Jason // how?
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[05:04] <pl_ice> ;)
[05:04] <pl_ice> ara sorry it's  :wq
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> hmmm... gedit should be installed and you'll have to use sudo
[05:04] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso: broken link, but I will try and find the page... thanks for the tip
[05:04] <JasonOfEarth> so sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[05:04] <llama32> brother_of_jared: i thought IRC names had a max of 11 characters
[05:05] <llama32> brother_of_jared: the specifications, they lie!
[05:05] <brother_of_jared> llama // that could be true, but what I typed was just an example
[05:05] <psusi> llama32, depends on how the irc server was compiled...
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> brother of jared: there are two places... 1 in the hostnameareay
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> but also you have to go into /etc/hosts and modify the top line
[05:06] <JasonOfEarth> otherwise you won't be able to get to the internet
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, Odd, it just opened for me.
[05:07] <SpaceBass> tonyyarusso:  looks like my IRC client picked up a "," somewhere in the URL...  working now
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> SpaceBass, Ah.
[05:09] <SpaceBass> I;m gonna download the live CD and try and repair grub in the morning
[05:09] <SpaceBass> thanks again guys
[05:09] <ara> pl_ice i can't exit this fstab screen , it just types
[05:10] <linuxpoet> Does anyone here know who the postgresql packager for ubuntu is?
[05:10] <Kovecses> are the gnome and ubuntu releases still together?
[05:10] <Toma-> linuxpoet: you can find out with synaptic
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Ubuntu releases are one month after Gnome.
[05:11] <xiaowen> Can you all tell me please why you chose Ubunto over other distributions?
[05:11] <Kovecses> tonyyarusso, so all releases of ubuntu will have the latest gnome?
[05:11] <pl_ice> ara u have to put  :  then command wq  (ie. write guit)
[05:11] <brother_of_jared> editing the hostname didn't change anything....
[05:11] <brother_of_jared> let me ask this..
[05:11] <beau> hey everyone.. I'm experiencing an interesting bug with ubuntu
[05:11] <flodine> guys how can i view mpg files on ubuntu
[05:11] <JasonOfEarth> is /proc/acpi/event just a file... for some reason I can't read it or delete it or anything I turned of acpid any idea what else might be trying to use this
[05:11] <pl_ice> brother_of_jared u probably have to restart couple of things ..
[05:11] <SpaceBass> flodine:  check out vlcplayer
[05:12] <brother_of_jared> what do I need to do so that my wife can view a page on my system, from her system
[05:12] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jared... you must logout and log back on
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Yes.
[05:12] <Toma-> flodine: with Totem, its under Apps > Multimedia
[05:12] <JasonOfEarth> but make sure you also edited the /etc/hosts
[05:12] <Kovecses> tonyyarusso, sweet
[05:12] <MrPPV> l
[05:12] <beau> flodine: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff
[05:12] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  do you have a DNS server on your network?
[05:12] <flodine> i download a movie all mpg files do i need to open it
[05:13] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  if you don;t have a DNS server then your wife will have to use your computer's IP, not host name
[05:13] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth what u want with it? to have  a look sudo cat event ....
[05:13] <brother_of_jared> All I have done is followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:13] <JasonOfEarth> @pl_ice: I tried to sudo cat event but it hangs the terminal... so that's not normal
[05:13] <Toma-> flodine: you should already have Totem installed. its all you need for most mpegs
[05:13] <tuv> the first control appearing in my mixer is not the one actually controlling the volume, the third one is. so the keyboard shortcut to change the volume is not working since it is changing the first control. how can i fix this?
[05:14] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:14] <Kovecses> tuv, you in gnome:?
[05:14] <tuv> yes
[05:14] <beau> i've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives
[05:14] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  looks like those are instructions on installing apache... but if your wife;s computer cannot find yours via hostname, then its another issue (most likely) like DNS
[05:14] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth yeh, same here ..
[05:15] <pl_ice> JasonOfEarth sorry, not sure
[05:15] <ara> pl_ice i do the same thing but it won't do anything it just types, i put :wq
[05:15] <JasonOfEarth> beau: it's likely some cron job is running like locate you can see what cron jobs are set up in /etc/cron.daily
[05:15] <beau> ok, i'll look now
[05:15] <pl_ice> ara hit couple of times ESC then do :wq
[05:15] <benoy> Hello
[05:15] <pl_ice> esc wil get u out of write mode
[05:15] <JasonOfEarth> @pl_ice: it's just enough to know that mine is doing the normal thing I was worried it was corrupt in some way
[05:16] <brother_of_jared> SpaceBass // perhaps my question wasn't correct.
[05:16] <pl_ice> :)
[05:16] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:16] <brother_of_jared> What do I need to do so that she can look at a page on my system?
[05:16] <lincoln> Where do I add a network device?
[05:16] <ara> pl_ice ok now do i have to reboot to see if it works or it should work now?
[05:16] <tuv> how can i change which mixer channel the keyboard shortcut affects in gnome?
[05:17] <Toma-> lincoln: System > Admin > Networking
[05:17] <pl_ice> ara no
[05:17] <JasonOfEarth> brother_of_jared after you've set up the apache you need her to type in your ip address... then whatever pages you have up
[05:17] <beau> bummer.. I don't quite understand the cron.daily folder
[05:17] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  1) what is your system's hostname ? 2) are both machines on the same network or is this via the internet? 3) from HER machine, can you ping your machine's hostname?
[05:17] <pl_ice> ara umount that hd u mounted manualy, then type : sudo mount -va and check if it's mounted
[05:17] <brother_of_jared> Jason and space //
[05:18] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:18] <lincoln> well that's what I thought, but the "add device" button is simply not there
[05:18] <brother_of_jared> cool info.. umm we share the same cable modem but I am certain that things happen over the net..
[05:18] <tuv> closing the laptop's lid activates the screensaver. how can i disable this?
[05:18] <brother_of_jared> how do I figure out my hostname and ip addy?
[05:19] <Toma-> ifconfig
[05:19] <JasonOfEarth> @brother_of_jared: ifconfig
[05:19] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  that sounds like the same network (IE LAN) ... and i suspect you probably do not have an internal DNS server (not uncommon), so you'll have to use IP addresses
[05:19] <ara> pl_ice are you sure it's -va?
[05:19] <tuv> run hostname to find out the hostname
[05:19] <brother_of_jared> Space cool.. how do I figure them out?
[05:19] <Toma-> tuv: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[05:19] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: so in a terminal, type  (like JasonOfEarth  said) ifconfig and look for the IP address ... probably 192.186......
[05:19] <Toma-> Mode: Disable screensaver
[05:20] <pl_ice> yeh
[05:20] <tuv> Toma-: i disabled the screensaver there and still closing the lid activates the screensaver
[05:20] <benoy> Does anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?
[05:20] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  then from her computer you should be able to go to http://<yourIP>/<yourpage>
[05:20] <ara> pl_ice please use single character options
[05:20] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  for instance: http://169.1.1.2/index.html
[05:20] <Toma-> tuv: look thru your xorg.conf and find "dpms" and comment out that line
[05:20] <ara> pl_ice i get this error
[05:20] <pl_ice> works for me :)
[05:20] <erisco> I am having a bit of trouble uploading my .php webpages via mc to my webserver. The problem is that the PHP is not seeming to work. I am saving the files as .html on my local system, then renaming them as .php on the server
[05:20] <pl_ice> ara sudo mount -a
[05:20] <Toma-> tuv: that *MIGHT* work. i dont have a laptop so im not sure
[05:20] <erisco> is this not what you are meant to do?
[05:20] <SpaceBass> (me hopes all 169.... are private)
[05:21] <pl_ice> then check if it mounted the hd
[05:21] <Toba> is that better?
[05:21] <brother_of_jared> So I typed in ifconfig..
[05:21] <beau> erisco it shouldn't matter
[05:21] <brother_of_jared> lots of info came up
[05:21] <tuv> Toma-: i found some xscreensaver commands in /etc/acpi/lid.sh, but i don't know what to do with them
[05:21] <beau> what server are you uploading them to?
[05:21] <erisco> i am thinking there is an actual command in mc to get the server to translate the .html to .php
[05:21] <Toma-> ahh
[05:21] <erisco> or, i am wondering if it is ubuntu. Even though I have my file saved as .html, ubuntu is seeing it as a php script. That is not exactly right.
[05:22] <brother_of_jared> Am I looking at the "inet addr" ??
[05:22] <beau> well if ubuntu is the client, trying to read the file from the server, that shouldn't matter
[05:22] <erisco> My point, is that the php document needs to be made on the server, but ubuntu may not be allowing that by trying to convert it on my local system
[05:22] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  yeah
[05:22] <phreak97> i just had to enable "always use my fonts" in firefox, cos the site i go to most uses a font which has crapped up x's under linux
[05:22] <ara> pl_ice let me IM you the error
[05:22] <aconbere> is there a place to dig up system requirements for running ubuntu (disk space in particular)?
[05:22] <brother_of_jared> I have two different listings..
[05:22] <phreak97> i dont know what font it is though
[05:22] <erisco> never the less, when i do upload, change the extension, and try to hit the page.... it just keeps loading forever
[05:23] <phreak97> how can i find out?
[05:23] <erisco> anyone have any clues? :\
[05:23] <ara> pl_ice check your IM
[05:23] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  what are they? (you are behind a NAT firewall, so sharing them here is completely safe)
[05:23] <pashaw> aconbere,   2G min
[05:23] <psusi> anyone here read "Understanding the Linux kernel" published by Oreilly?  picked it up the other day and it seems nice
[05:23] <pl_ice> IM ? um i don't think i put the right one in this chat mode ...
[05:23] <Linfan> i have a hp laptop i justg installed ubuntu i dont see a power managment feature for mobile computers? is there one available
[05:23] <psusi> err... wrong channel...
[05:24] <kalin> how can i install wine????
[05:24] <pashaw> !tell kalin about wine
[05:24] <phreak97> kalin, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:24] <phreak97> ?
[05:24] <kalin> i've been reading the instalation guide but i don't understand
[05:24] <Toma-> tuv: have you got all the acpi installed?
[05:24] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:24] <SpaceBass> ./open_bottle;./drink_goodstuff
[05:24] <pl_ice> ara use pastebin
[05:24] <SpaceBass> ohhh wrong wine
[05:24] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  ?
[05:24] <brother_of_jared> ok so she can see the page which is cool.
[05:25] <brother_of_jared> What if I don't want to use the IP address all the time?
[05:25] <tuv> Toma-: what is all of the acpi, i've acpi, acpid, and acpi-support
[05:25] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:25] <ara> pl_ice it's only three lines can i send in here?
[05:25] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:25] <Toma-> tuv: thats all
[05:25] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  the easiest thing to do is modify her host file...
[05:25] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  what OS does she have?
[05:25] <pl_ice> ara use priv messages
[05:26] <erisco> mmmmm?
[05:26] <brother_of_jared> Winblows NT I believe
[05:26] <brother_of_jared> <--- Ubuntu Breezy
[05:26] <Toma-> tuv: what kind of laptop is it?
[05:26] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..
[05:26] <tuv> Toma-: vaio
[05:27] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: you may need google, but I think the host file in NT is at c:/windowsnt/system32/hosts  but I could be wrong
[05:27] <can-o-worms> GURT: rm ?
[05:27] <GURT> rm?
[05:27] <ara> pl_ice you remmember at the begining of the chat you send me privarte, i just sent you the error overthere
[05:27] <kalin> could anubody explain me the instalation of WINETOOLS 0.9?
[05:27] <can-o-worms> GURT: man rm
[05:27] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: basic idea is that you add a line in the host file that lookes like: brothers_computer   192.168.1.2
[05:27] <GURT> what is man rm?
[05:27] <Linfan> is there a program for ubuntu that handles pictures?
[05:27] <SpaceBass> where brothers_computer is what ever you want to use as the hostname and 192.... is your IP
[05:27] <brother_of_jared> How would changing a file on her system change the usage of the IP address for my pages?
[05:28] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared: you'd have to edit it on her system
[05:28] <can-o-worms> GURT: take it for a spin, and find out
[05:28] <pashaw> brother_of_jared,   just use system search  under the windows directory for  hosts
[05:28] <GURT> that makes no sense
[05:28] <brother_of_jared> SpaceBass // how am I going to edit everyone's system?
[05:28] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  thought it was just your wife's ?
[05:28] <tuv> Toma-: i just removed the lid.sh script from /etc/acpi as i can't think of anything that i need done when i close or open the lid
[05:28] <pashaw> brother_of_jared,   she wont need your ip# anymore  she could type in your computers name and get redirected
[05:28] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: man is the linux manual it will tell you about commands (including rm )
[05:29] <brother_of_jared> Well at the moment it is.. but if she goes to work it won't be.
[05:29] <GURT> thanks
[05:29] <Toma-> tuv: you might want the screen to turn off...
[05:29] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  check out dyndns ... i suspect your router even supports it, google it for more info
[05:29] <JasonOfEarth> @linfan: gimp is the program you're looking for
[05:29] <Linfan> is it like a iphoto or picasa?
[05:29] <GURT> rm dosen't sond as if it's going to help
[05:29] <GURT> sound
[05:29] <tuv> Toma-: isn't that done by the hardware/bios?
[05:29] <brother_of_jared> so then she could ftp to my IP then?
[05:30] <Toma-> tuv: don think so
[05:30] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: sorry I missed your original question
[05:30] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  even better go to registerfly.com and buy a $9.00 domain name (assuming your IP doesnt change... often)
[05:30] <Toma-> tuv: give it a try
[05:30] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..
[05:30] <kalin> =...)
[05:30] <kalin> =::)
[05:30] <brother_of_jared> Good idea Bass
[05:30] <kalin> =..)
[05:30] <Linfan> how can i enable the ubuntu boot screen? all i see know is text
[05:30] <DotheGuru> GURT, you mean the mounted drive icons?
[05:30] <tuv> Toma-: will do. do i need to do any thing to make the file removal effective?
[05:30] <phreak97> gurt, you dont happen to live in adelaide do you?
[05:30] <brother_of_jared> So what about ftp options?
[05:30] <Linfan> or where can i dl bootscreens
[05:30] <snowowl> How do I change my theme in Ubuntu under Gnome
[05:31] <GURT> DotheGuru: yes
[05:31] <kalin> =')
[05:31] <SpaceBass> I think yahoo even has $2.00 domain names... but I have used registerfly.com so long I forget to check
[05:31] <kalin> ='')
[05:31] <Toma-> tuv: make sure you only move it. DONT delete.
[05:31] <bshumate> snowowl: System > Preferences > Theme
[05:31] <GURT> i can't right click and unmount because that option dosen't exist
[05:31] <kalin> =..)
[05:31] <tuv> Toma-: it's in my home :)
[05:31] <CaptainMorgan> is azureus supposed to be in synaptic? cuz I don't see it..
[05:31] <kalin> =::::(
[05:31] <kalin> =..(
[05:31] <Toma-> tuv: good ;) im working on a hack for u :D
[05:31] <bshumate> Linfan: Gimp is similar to Photoshop, moreso than iPhoto
[05:31] <tuv> Toma-: besides, i can always reinstall its package and get the file back, can't i
[05:31] <dr3wster> hi, I'm having trouble installing a custom gnome panel applet.  I did configure, make install, and it worked...but now I dont' see it in the "add to panel" box. anyone have any ideas?
[05:31] <SpaceBass> brother_of_jared:  of course, if you use a domain name you are then talking about your EXTERNAL IP not internal... to find it go to http://www.ipchicken.com
[05:31] <phreak97> how do i update gaim?
[05:32] <Falstius> CaptainMorgan: its not there for amd64 installs
[05:32] <tuv> Toma-: hmm.. interesting.. thanks ahead
[05:32] <JasonOfEarth> @gurt: it may be that the icon is actually on your desktop if so you can go into the desktop folder ~/Desktop and use rm
[05:32] <Linfan> gimp is like photoshop so is there anything like iphoto for ubuntu?
[05:32] <johnsie2k> fuck
[05:32] <kalin> I WANT TO INSTALL WINE!!!!!! URGENTLY! xD
[05:33] <phreak97> kalin, sometimes it feels like everyone has you on ignore eh?
[05:33] <GURT> JasonOfEarth: they're no actually on there
[05:33] <tuv> kalin: what's wrong with: sudo apt-get install wine?
[05:33] <kalin> i'm falling onto dispair
[05:33] <GURT> JasonOfEarth: they're not in ~/Desktop
[05:33] <beau> kalin: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff
[05:33] <beau> and it installs wine
[05:33] <johnsie2k> for fuc sake my firefox keeps crashing
[05:33] <brother_of_jared> and if I stop Apache.. no one can get in ... right?
[05:33] <Toma-> johnsie2k: no swearing thx.
[05:34] <Linfan> how do i enable ubuntu bootscreen again?
[05:34] <Toma-> johnsie2k: why does it keep crashing? what version is it?
[05:34] <johnsie2k> fuc is not a waer
[05:34] <beau> does anyone else have any ideas for me?
[05:34] <pashaw> beau,  whats the script called ?
[05:34] <beau> i've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives
[05:34] <beau> pashaw
[05:34] <beau> automatix
[05:34] <beau> i believe
[05:34] <pashaw> !automatix
[05:34] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:34] <beau> :o
[05:34] <bshumate> Linfan: check out imgSeek...it is similar to iPhoto
[05:34] <pashaw> beau, that one  plz dont recommend it
[05:34] <Toma-> automatix is dangerous.
[05:34] <beau> k :x
[05:34] <beau> i use it?
[05:35] <beau> used
[05:35] <kalin> ok
[05:35] <SpaceBass> if I'm using a live CD do I need to add local drives to /etc/fstab  or should I just be able to mount them?
[05:35] <kalin> send me good vibrations
[05:35] <johnsie2k> not open to improvemnt? It's a friggin sh.... hardly closed source?!!!!
[05:35] <pashaw> beau,   yeah  its like the lottery some winners some losers
[05:35] <dr3wster> could anyone please help me install this gnome applet? I really want to control rhythmbox from the desktop:(
[05:35] <brother_of_jared> closed the wrong tab....
[05:35] <Toma-> i used it once, made all sorts of horrible things happen
[05:35] <kalin> cuse i'm desperate now
[05:35] <GURT> can someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive.. when i click on them it says Couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdd" .. so i tried sudo umount /dev/hdd and it get and error saying that it isn't mounted
[05:35] <johnsie2k> Autmoatix rocks
[05:35] <kalin> thanks i'll see digg .,com
[05:35] <aconbere> so... my friends installation craps out during stage 2, is there anyway to restart that?
[05:36] <beau> why is it dangerous? maybe it has something to do with my computer locking up... but that was 2 weeks ago when i installed it
[05:36] <nurfe> Is there any easy wpa_supplicant guide available?
[05:36] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:36] <brother_of_jared> so stopping Apache means she won't be able to access the page?
[05:36] <phreak97> xchat doesnt open links when you click them
[05:36] <pashaw> beau,   will you be here to fix her system  if it breaks something?
[05:36] <phreak97> they underline when you hover over them, but they dont open
[05:36] <bshumate> Automatix stole my car, and tried to set my house on fire! ;-)
[05:36] <phreak97> how can i fix this?
[05:36] <beau> I can try pashaw
[05:36] <johnsie2k> Autmoatic is the best program for ubuntu
[05:36] <beau> but im sorry
[05:36] <beau> i'm new, i didnt know it was a bad script
[05:37] <beau> all I know is it worked great for me and i'm glad i ran it
[05:37] <Toma-> id say synaptic is
[05:37] <bshumate> !automatix
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:37] <beau> !automatix
[05:37] <johnsie2k> how can an sh not be open to simprovemnt??? thats a lie
[05:37] <Toma-> johnsie2k: its not gpl
[05:37] <pashaw> johnsie2k,   you trolling?
[05:37] <beau> johnsie2k, lets not start a fight
[05:37] <fredforfaen> !java
[05:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:38] <johnsie2k> really sh is edibablt now?
[05:38] <Toma-> you can change it all you like. soon as you upload to someone else, you're gonna get fined
[05:38] <nurfe> !wpa
[05:38] <ubotu> hmm... wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[05:38] <johnsie2k> come on
[05:38] <pl_ice> bored
[05:38] <nurfe> :/
[05:38] <beau> so does anyone have any ideas for my problem?
[05:38] <beau> Hey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive
[05:38] <johnsie2k> anynone can change an automatix sh in geditd
[05:38] <nurfe> I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work apparently it installs fine... I just can't get it to dhcp
[05:38] <aconbere> any way to restart the 2nd stage process without starting over
[05:38] <Toma-> ahh it is gpl
[05:38] <beau> i have to do a hard shut down
[05:39] <dr3wster> so nobody here has a clue about what to do with a simple applet install?!
[05:39] <DotheGuru> yes
[05:39] <DotheGuru> install gdesklets
[05:39] <SEJeff> and gdesklets-data
[05:39] <Toma-> beau: have you run "top" as soon as it starts running weird?
[05:40] <tuv> the first channel in the mixer isn't the one controlling the volume, so keyboard shortcuts for volume change aren't working
[05:40] <dr3wster> DotheGuru, thanks
[05:40] <phreak97> god damn i wish the toilet wasnt next to this room.. smeels like ass hiding behind flowers
[05:40] <beau> !top
[05:40] <ubotu> beau: Not a clue
[05:40] <phreak97> smells*
[05:40] <Linfan> any power managemnt feature for ubuntu im on a laptop and the battery feels like it is being sucked dry
[05:40] <beau> no. :)
[05:40] <johnsie2k> Autmoatix is the mising link for Ubuntu... wihtout automatcix ubiuntu is crap
[05:40] <beau> fill me in Toma
[05:40] <pl_ice> beau my just shuts down :)
[05:40] <Toma-> beau: in a terminal. on your computer.
[05:40] <pl_ice> w/o hd running
[05:40] <beau> well, what does it do? i know how to run commands :P
[05:40] <Toma-> it tells you wants using resources
[05:40] <beau> ice: random programs shut down for me too
[05:40] <Linfan> i downloaded wpasupplicant now what do i do?
[05:40] <beau> oh i gotcha Toma
[05:41] <johnsie2k> like I'm gonna sit down for 5 hours  and install that crap manuually when automatix does it
[05:41] <Linfan> where do i go to configure it
[05:41] <beau> it starts locking up too soon
[05:41] <beau> but
[05:41] <beau> this time i've got the system monitor up
[05:41] <beau> for when it happens again
[05:41] <beau> (and trust me, it will happen again)
[05:41] <pashaw> !enter
[05:41] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:41] <Toma-> well keep top up and running. ALSO, pop open another term, and run "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[05:42] <fredforfaen> !mp3
[05:42] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:42] <beau> pashaw, were you trying to tell me something?
[05:42] <tuv> Linfan: read its documentation!
[05:42] <johnsie2k> automatix is the essential software that ubunto is miising
[05:42] <beau> johnsie2k, are you some kind of robot?
[05:42] <Linfan> how? where do i get it from
[05:42] <johnsie2k> no
[05:42] <beau> well then chill on it ok?
[05:42] <johnsie2k> so why flame me?
[05:42] <Toma-> johnsie2k: well file a bug and tell them to get it into dapper. no point wasting your time in a help channel.
[05:42] <Linfan> iwhere do i go to access it?
[05:42] <aconbere> So... if the 2nd stage of the installation fails... you just give up?
[05:43] <johnsie2k> a good program is a good program
[05:43] <fredforfaen> is this down ? -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:43] <Toma-> aconbere: cant you restart?
[05:43] <aconbere> is there a way to target the CD to install specific resources?
[05:43] <tuv> Linfan: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant
[05:43] <beau> I'm not flaming you man, remember? i like it.. but it's obviously caused a lot of people problems, and these guys would know... so just respect the channel and dont mention it
[05:43] <aconbere> Toma-: yes, but that doesn't get me back to adding all the default packages.
[05:43] <johnsie2k> automatix helps people duh
[05:43] <Toma-> i mean, restart the install?
[05:43] <SpaceBass> I'm trying to use a live CD to repair my grub ... I can mount my hda1 but its read only so I cannot run grub-install
[05:43] <SpaceBass> anyone have an idea?
[05:43] <Toma-> johnsie2k: like i said. no point wasting your time here
[05:44] <SpaceBass> hda1 is NTFS
[05:44] <johnsie2k> help room... automatix helps people
[05:44] <Toma-> SpaceBass: you need to chroot to your linux partition
[05:44] <pashaw> johnsie2k,   your about to get the boot
[05:44] <phreak97> whats the best audio player (looking for something like winamp)?
[05:44] <DotheGuru> xmms is similar to winamp
[05:44] <johnsie2k> for saying automatix is good?
[05:44] <Toma-> phreak97: you want something that works or something that looks fancy?
[05:44] <fredforfaen> i cant accsess the wiki??? pls help
[05:44] <sampan> phreak97  xmms, beep are both winamp-alike
[05:44] <tuv> phreak97: amarok
[05:44] <johnsie2k> we're all entitked to an opinion
[05:45] <aconbere> Toma-: I can restart the install but it takes a pretty long to get through stage 1, so restarting is a bit of a pain, and if all the base install works I don't see why there shouldn't be a way to get packages off the CD.
[05:45] <Toma-> johnsie2k: stfu plz :)
[05:45] <DotheGuru> i too use amarok
[05:45] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  how does chroot work? I understand its a special shell, but am worried about data loss
[05:45] <johnsie2k> why?
[05:45] <pashaw> johnsie2k,  your clearly above the level of this channel   have a good night
[05:45] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: enough, please
[05:45] <johnsie2k> im helping people
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, it isn't a shell
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, it changes the meaning of / for a context
[05:45] <pl_ice> fredforfaen my doesn't open, yet ...
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, so you won't lose anything just by doing a chroot
[05:45] <Toma-> SpaceBass: chroot tells the live cd shell to "move" its focus to your partition. effectively, making your system boot from the live cd.
[05:45] <sethk> SpaceBass, of course, deleting is dangerous, but not more dangerous than normal
[05:46] <tuv> guys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:46] <Linfan> ok i went to usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant but i dont see anything for me to read
[05:46] <johnsie2k> sheesh
[05:46] <Toma-> SpaceBass: chroot wont make you loose anything, unless you do anything silly after you chroot
[05:46] <fredforfaen> pl_ice thanx
[05:46] <Toma-> johnsie2k: who are you helping specifically?
[05:46] <SpaceBass> ahhh so I need a USB key, or partition, etc that is free
[05:46] <phreak97> i want something that looks ok, but has functionality as first priority
[05:46] <johnsie2k> people who wanrt to install a load of apps quickly
[05:46] <phreak97> which of those three fits the description?
[05:46] <tuv> Linfan: you can read README.gz and what's in examples directory
[05:46] <sethk> SpaceBass, to do a chroot, you need a root file system.  Not an empty one.
[05:46] <Toma-> johnsie2k: no-one needs its at the moment do they?
[05:46] <saotome_> hi guys
[05:47] <Goldfisch> SpaceBass: if you chroot to an empty file folder, all you will see is nothing!
[05:47] <saotome_> after spending some hours of my life which i'll never get back, i discovered that version 4.1.12 has issues with prepared statements
[05:47] <saotome_> attempting to install 5.0 (on ubuntu), bu getting the following error
[05:47] <johnsie2k> how do u know though? some people might benefit from the apps
[05:47] <Toma-> Goldfisch: actually, you cant chroot to an empty partition. it looks for /bin/bash before it swaps over
[05:47] <beau> johnsie... come on
[05:47] <saotome_> Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.
[05:47] <SpaceBass> I'm just trying to recover a windows bootable partition... blew away my ubuntu partition... was hoping I could use a live CD to repair grub
[05:47] <beau> you're even getting on my nerves now
[05:48] <saotome_> can anyone offer me some advice?
[05:48] <johnsie2k> come on what?
[05:48] <Toma-> SpaceBass: OH. you want woindows to work? no more ubuuntu?
[05:48] <Goldfisch> SpaceBass: Some people use chroot to install a 32-bit root partition inside a 64-bit environment. That way, they can 32-bit apps while running a 64-bit CPU.
[05:48] <SpaceBass> I don't have anywhere I can mount a filesystem to to use chroot
[05:48] <Linfan> whoa it says something about needing to build a config i dont know how to do that shit
[05:48] <beau> can someone kick him?  he's definitely not here for help and is not helping
[05:48] <pashaw> fredforfaen,   page finally loaded
[05:48] <johnsie2k> automatix turned my os into somewthing decent
[05:48] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: please stop being annoyingly repetitious or you'll be gaged
[05:48] <thoreauputic> *gagged
[05:48] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  bought a box for ubuntu... dont need to dual boot
[05:48] <beau> sounds kinky
[05:48] <johnsie2k> stop flaiming me for ahving an opinion
[05:48] <beau> this isn't an opinion channel
[05:48] <Toma-> SpaceBass: sooper. is it windows xp?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> johnsie2k: you were warned
[05:49] <saotome_> again
[05:49] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  yeah, XP... and I've tried the windows recovery console and fixboot and fixmbr ... still tries to load grub
[05:49] <Toma-> hmmm
[05:49] <saotome_> having an error while attempting to install 5.0
[05:49] <saotome_> Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.
[05:49] <saotome_> can someone help?
[05:49] <Toma-> so you want grub to load windows? :D
[05:49] <tuv> Linfan: that's why there is an examples dir.. besides, there is a simple config already in /etc/wpasupplicant
[05:49] <pashaw> saotome_,  5.0???   you mean 5.10 breezy?
[05:49] <saotome_> i am running breezy
[05:49] <Toma-> SpaceBass: you need at least 1 linux system to use grub. unless you get the windows version of grub i spose...
[05:49] <Goldfisch> Sounds like he is trying to ditch ubuntu+grub+whatever to get it back to speaking windoze.
[05:50] <saotome_> but i meant mysql 6.0
[05:50] <saotome_> 5.0*
[05:50] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  frankly I don't care which bootloader does it, but currently grub is there and I cannot get rid of it
[05:50] <Toma-> SpaceBass: i see.
[05:50] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: Wich boot loader do you want to use ?
[05:50] <sethk> SpaceBass, you can easily get rid of it, but why would you want to?
[05:50] <SpaceBass> Toma-: well, preferably I'd remove grub in favor of the windows bootloader...
[05:50] <pashaw> saotome_,  MYSQL 5.0 can still only be installed by compiling   per the wiki
[05:50] <Toma-> sethk: hes got no linux partition. only need windows.
[05:50] <tuv> guys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:51] <SpaceBass> sethk:  b/c my system won't boot
[05:51] <saotome_> i can't use the binary?
[05:51] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: Boot with the Windows XP CD press r for repair console and type /fixmbr /fixboot
[05:51] <pashaw> saotome_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:51] <sethk> SpaceBass, you want to put the windows boot loader back on, you can
[05:51] <tuv> SpaceBass: to remove grub, look at freedos bootable cd
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Do any of the movie players allow you to zoom in to point out details?
[05:51] <SpaceBass> CARNAGE:  no dice... done that 10 times (or more)
[05:51] <sethk> SpaceBass, hmm., then odds are there is damage to your ntfs partition
[05:51] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: I have done that many many time it always worked Oo
[05:51] <SpaceBass> CARNAGE: likewise
[05:52] <sethk> SpaceBass, anytime the fix boot has failed, it has always turned out that some crucial file was missing on the ntfs partition
[05:52] <Toma-> SpaceBass: whats the error when you "fixmbr"?
[05:52] <SpaceBass> sethk: oddly enough the live ubuntu will mount the NTFS part and it appears intact
[05:52] <CARNAGE> SpaceBass: strange
[05:52] <saotome_> ooohh great
[05:52] <saotome_> this is gonna be fun!
[05:52] <SpaceBass> Toma-:  no error for fixmbr
[05:52] <pashaw> saotome_,   :)
[05:52] <sethk> SpaceBass, that's doubly odd, since grub is grub
[05:52] <saotome_> thx, let me see if i can survive this
[05:52] <Toma-> and fixboot?
[05:52] <saotome_> i will probably be back a dozen of times asking very stupid questions
[05:52] <SpaceBass> just an error with grub on boot (-17)
[05:52] <sethk> he gets no errors, it just doesn't fix
[05:52] <pl_ice> bye bye
[05:52] <tuv> saotome_: did you watch the Ranma 1/2 anime??
[05:52] <SpaceBass> no errors at all in the windows recovery console... just doesnt work
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, have you reinstalled grub onto the mbr?
[05:53] <saotome_> yep!
[05:53] <saotome_> LOL!!
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, for some reason it isn't restoring the actually boot loader which windows places in the two sectors preceding the first partition
[05:53] <saotome_> you are the first person ever that knows the origin of the name!
[05:53] <SpaceBass> sethk:  no, that's what I was hoping to do with the live cd, but I get permission denied when I do: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:53] <sethk> SpaceBass, don't do it that way.  just run the grub shell and do it from there
[05:53] <tuv> people.. please.. how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?
[05:54] <saotome_> tuv: my first name is similar to saotome's first name, my friends gave me that nickname, a long time ago
[05:54] <phreak97> im installing beep
[05:54] <SpaceBass> sethk:  i'm not proficent in grub at all... so I don't know about the shell, et al ... can I do that from the live CD? b/c at this point grub doesnt even load on boot... just errors out
[05:54] <tuv> saotome_: cool
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, sure, you can do it from the cd.  You'll need a proper grub configuration file (even if you won't be using it when you boot)
[05:55] <tuv> saotome_: hope there is no panda involved.. just an attempted joke
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, basically, you only need two commands in the grub shell
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, one is root, like:    root (hd0,0)
[05:55] <sethk> SpaceBass, and the other is boot:     boot (hd0)
[05:55] <SpaceBass> gotcha... but I need a config file first? or that generates the config file?
[05:55] <mcjerry> SpaceBass: when grub before grub errors out look to see if it gives you option to skip to command line and rerun grub setup
[05:56] <sethk> SpaceBass, you need a config file and a grub directory
[05:56] <DotheGuru> Gurt, if you are still around
[05:56] <phreak97> beep doesnt recognise my cd drive properly
[05:56] <GURT> i am
[05:56] <phreak97> what do i do?
[05:56] <DotheGuru> i figured out the solution
[05:56] <GURT> oh?
[05:56] <SpaceBass> sethk:  so do I pull the file from a working ubuntu box?
[05:56] <bshumate> SpaceBass: this should be fixable via the Windoze recovery cd :  boot cd, choose recovery (r), select windows instance, login, then at prompt, type : bootcfg /rebuild    it will scan for windows installations again, and present  a list.  in your case, just one entry should appear.  it will ask if you want the installation added to the boot list.  Answer with Y.  Reboot, and your machine should be back in the corporate opressive mode again (i.e. booting W
[05:56] <aconbere> does anyone know what this command does ? "dpkg --configure -a"
[05:56] <sethk> SpaceBass, that's a good way to do it.
[05:56] <GURT> DotheGuru: i'm all ears
[05:57] <DotheGuru> find your configuation editor
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, but you also need a grub directory.
[05:57] <Goldfisch> ROFL
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, you don't have linux anywhere on the hard disk?
[05:57] <sethk> SpaceBass, you wiped out what you installed?
[05:57] <SpaceBass> bshumate: i hate to say I've tried that at least 7 or 8 times tonight
[05:57] <Toma-> aconbere: run "man dpkg"
[05:57] <SpaceBass> sethk:  not on that drive, no
[05:57] <Remmy> Hi all, I have an Athlon 64 X2, but with the amd64 generic kernel only one core is used. When I boot the smp kernel, it hangs as it won't read my sata2 disks... what should I do?
[05:57] <DotheGuru> should be a red car
[05:57] <GURT> ok
[05:57] <GURT> opened
[05:57] <DotheGuru> go to apps
[05:58] <SpaceBass> sethk: it was a moment of not thinking..... at all...
[05:58] <GURT> ok
[05:58] <DotheGuru> then nautulus
[05:58] <sethk> SpaceBass, reinstall a minimal system.
[05:58] <Goldfisch> Remmy: Well...you may have to build your own. I thought I heard bad things about the stock kernel's regarding AMD64 and SMP.
[05:58] <GURT> ok
[05:58] <DotheGuru> you should see "show mounted....something"
[05:58] <DotheGuru> uncheck it
[05:58] <aconbere> Toma-: I'm asking becuase this is what we are told to run when trying to apt-get a package.  dpkg them errors out with a dbus error
[05:58] <SpaceBass> frankly if I can recover the files then I'd be fine... but since I make use of NTFS security and dynamic disks I'm worried that installing a minimail install will not help
[05:58] <Remmy> Goldfisch: What is the best way togo about it though? Get the "generic" source and only hit the SMP switch?
[05:58] <bshumate> SpaceBass: if that doesn't work, then you can force grub to boot from the windoze partition, with these commands at the grub> prompt (upon a fresh reboot) :  grub>  rootnoverify (hd0,0)  grub> makeactive grub> chainloader +1 grub> boot
[05:59] <GURT> volumes_visible ?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> aconbere: that command reconfigures the whole base system
[05:59] <sethk> SpaceBass, can't hurt.  :)
[05:59] <Goldfisch> Remmy: Yeah, I guess so. I have had to build kernels in the past for other reasons. Are you experienced in that?
[05:59] <DotheGuru> ya
[05:59] <GURT> but taht will make it so they Never show up.. i just want these empty ones to go away untill i put a disc in again.. then when i remove the disc i want the icons to go away
[05:59] <thoreauputic> aconbere: which means apt thinks your system is borked
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> ok so
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> Question
[05:59] <DotheGuru> oh
[05:59] <DotheGuru> hm
[05:59] <Remmy> Goldfisch: I have built them myself in the past, but would like tokeep a nice .deb out of it
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> How many releases is it going to take
[05:59] <pashaw> aconbere,   what package are you trying to apt-get
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> before the ubuntu developers realize. . . . . . . . . . . . .
[06:00] <aconbere> thoreauputic: which it is :) becuase it crashes trying to do the 2nd stage.
[06:00] <DotheGuru> try it
[06:00] <mcjerry> Remmy: what kernel ver do you have? there were some issues with not recognizing sata2 a while back
[06:00] <SpaceBass> bshumate:  grub doesnt load, it errors out so I cannot get a prompt :(
[06:00] <Goldfisch> Remmy: You may want to double check if SMP is supported at this point in time on AMD64. AMD64 doesn't exactly have 100% support yet.
[06:00] <DotheGuru> then check it afterwards
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> . . . . . . that xfs_freeze on a device, followed by trying to access that device, deadlocks the system?
[06:00] <aconbere> pashaw: well I tried openssh-server and gnome-taskbar
[06:00] <Goldfisch> Remmy: Have you used make-kpkg to build .deb's for your kernels?
[06:00] <phreak97> ok, how do i play audio cd's?
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> i.e. when you try to install grub
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> on xfs
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> from the install cd
[06:00] <thoreauputic> aconbere: well, try the command and answer the questions then :)
[06:00] <SpaceBass> sethk:  yeah- that is my plan e (I'e been through a - d)
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> and it goes, "Let me lock myself up."
[06:00] <pashaw> aconbere, ??  did you do a server install?
[06:00] <kalin> how can i open an executable file (.exe) in ubuntu???
[06:00] <Remmy> mcjerry: This waswith 2.6.12-9 for amd-k8-smp
[06:01] <Remmy> Goldfisch: No I haven't... is there documentation on that somewhere?
[06:01] <bluefoxicy> See what I do, I say "no bootloader," install grub in /target, run 'grub-install (hd0)' (which oddly needs ot be killed because it's a shitty script and it locks up) followed by 'grub', which I tell to "root (hd0,0)" and "setup (hd0)"
[06:01] <bluefoxicy> and it works.
[06:01] <bluefoxicy> this tells me 3 things
[06:01] <bluefoxicy> 1)  A retard wrote grub-install
[06:01] <aconbere> this is the error that dpkg --configure -a gives "bus error: over-current on port 1"
[06:01] <Darkshrimp> hey, i just want to know, does ubuntu help you to partition, or do you need to get something else to partition a drive out for ubuntu
[06:01] <phreak97> sampan, i installed xmms and beep, neith play my cd's
[06:02] <phreak97> neither
[06:02] <kalin> please how can i open an executable file (.exe)
[06:02] <bluefoxicy> 2)  A retard decided to freeze a file system before accessing it so that the kernel blocks (xfs_unfreeze exists on the frozen filesystem, but nowhere else)
[06:02] <tuv> kalin: install wine
[06:02] <phreak97> sound juicer does, but its hardly a practical media player
[06:02] <bluefoxicy> 3)  You can actually make grub-install work if you know what you're doing
[06:02] <kalin> i have wine
[06:02] <DotheGuru> Darkshrimp, are you using a live Cd?
[06:02] <mcjerry> Remmy: 2.6.12-9 caused problems with me here with amd64 not dual core.....both 64 and 32 mode problems seeing sata correctly.....fixed in 2.6.15
[06:02] <Goldfisch> Remmy: Read this http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en Makes building kernels a snap.
[06:02] <kalin> i already have wine
[06:02] <bluefoxicy> phreak97:  rhythmbox
[06:02] <SpaceBass> bshumate ... sethk   everyone... thanks for the ides... going to call it a night and try tomorrow
[06:02] <tuv> kalin: if you want to run an exe file, just do: wine abc.exe
[06:02] <lmsilva> Darkshrimp: the setup will let you configure partitions
[06:02] <pashaw> aconbere,   did apt-get install openssh-server  finish?
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> Darkshrimp:  it'll let you partition, destructively.
[06:03] <Remmy> mcjerry: I don't see that one in my list with packages?
[06:03] <aconbere> pashaw: I didn't do a server install I figured that an ssh daemon is fairly standard affair for any machine.
[06:03] <Remmy> Goldfisch: Thanks, will read.
[06:03] <mcjerry> Remmy: you breezy still?
[06:03] <Remmy> mcjerry: If that's 5.10,yes
[06:03] <Darkshrimp> bluefoxicy: what you mean destructively
[06:03] <aconbere> pashaw: it won't run, it wants me to run dpkg --configure -a, which gives this bus error "over-current on port 1"
[06:03] <mcjerry> Remmy: you got a dual boot windows setup?
[06:03] <lmsilva> Darkshrimp: if you've got no free space you need to repartition and that will erase the existing partitions... you should get something like Partition Magic to resize
[06:04] <DotheGuru> what about gparted?
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> Darkshrimp:  I mean if your drive is 100% windows, you delete windows first.
[06:04] <Remmy> mcjerry: Newp, not on this machine
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> DotheGuru:  do it from the livecd and you can try that.
[06:04] <DotheGuru> i was helping him
[06:04] <DotheGuru> heh
[06:04] <phreak97> bluefoxicy, rhythmbox opens sound juicer for audio cd's
[06:04] <can-o-worms> what do you need to add to vimrc to get some colour?
[06:04] <tuv> people.. please.. how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?.. if no one can answer this, could some one suggest a channel to ask this question?
[06:04] <phreak97> lol i think i know why i get no sound
[06:04] <Goldfisch> I hate to say this, but I have never seen a product quite like Partition Magic anywhere else. That application is great for one thing, shuffling partitions around like a deck of cards.
[06:04] <phreak97> its trying to use analogue adudio
[06:04] <phreak97> audio*
[06:04] <sethk> Goldfisch, why do you hate to say it?
[06:05] <phreak97> and i dont have the cable plugged in
[06:05] <phreak97> can i reconfigure that?
[06:05] <can-o-worms> Goldfisch: have you tried parted, i haven't, but it is supposed to be a clone
[06:05] <ideafix> "regsvr32 /u shimgvw.dll"
[06:05] <lmsilva> guys hello, has anyone tried FreePascal and Lazarus? I'm having trouble recompiling Lazarus with GTK2 in my Breezy
[06:05] <Darkshrimp> bluefoxicy: but i have about 40gb left on my harddrive
[06:06] <Goldfisch> Well, compared to any open source solutions, like gparted, etc. All these other tools require you to unmount paritions etc before you move them. They are frontends for the resize tools. Partition Magic does the same thing without making you worry about that at all (and it is a windoze app).
[06:06] <DotheGuru> gparted, darkshrimp
[06:06] <mcjerry> Remmy: If you want, I'd personally make a backup image of your current install and try changing sources to 6.04 dapper and apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and get current kernel.....
[06:06] <kalin> how can i open a .exe file with wine?
[06:06] <phreak97> just figured it out myself
[06:06] <Toma-> kalin: "wine windows.exe"
[06:06] <skon> kalin: man wine
[06:06] <pashaw> aconbere,   type   ps -ale | grep ssh
[06:06] <Linfan> where do i drop system sounds i downloaded of gnome-look.org and what file type does ubuntu need for them to work?
[06:06] <sethk> Goldfisch, indeed, it's an excellent program.  I still don't understand why you hate to say it.
[06:06] <mcjerry> Remmy: then if doesn't fix sata2 prob you could fall back on backup image
[06:06] <kalin> uhmmmm
[06:06] <Remmy> mcjerry: I'll try that then I think... thanks :)
[06:06] <kalin> ok i'll try
[06:06] <pashaw> aconbere,   do you see sshd
[06:06] <trivistius> could anyone lend a hand enabling onboard sound for a a7s333. i think i'm supposed to use ALSA, but i'm not familiar with it at all
[06:07] <Goldfisch> sethk: BECAUSE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ON LINUX.
[06:07] <skon> Goldfisch: PartitionCommander does just as good a job, for a smaller price
[06:07] <aconbere> pashaw: but I mean... I just want to install anything I know how to administer a *nix machine.
[06:07] <sethk> Goldfisch, so?
[06:07] <Goldfisch> sethk: I don't have any windows machines here at home, so I can't use it.
[06:07] <ideafix> linux is evil I tell u
[06:07] <pashaw> aconbere,   using your command is not normal    if you want more background  google will help
[06:07] <sethk> Goldfisch, not true.  I have bootable media with partition magic.  No need whatsoever for windows
[06:07] <ideafix> MUAHHAhaha
[06:08] <trivistius> the onboard sound card uses a  C-Media CMI8738 according to asus.
[06:08] <aconbere> pashaw: I don't want to run it, but ubuntu's base install won't let my run apt-get without running dpkg --configure -a
[06:08] <pashaw> aconbere,   ok  now your asking a different question
[06:08] <aconbere> it's not like I'm clamouring to run dpkg, I would love to have a working full blown system, but I don't
[06:08] <mcjerry> Remmy: I also remember seeing some posts i think was on bugzilla.ubuntu.com about sata issues
[06:08] <aconbere> pashaw: no I'm not I'm asking the same question I have been :)
[06:08] <pashaw> aconbere,   apt-get update doesnt work at all?
[06:09] <aconbere> pashaw: no, the install crashes consistently in the middle of the 2nd stage
[06:09] <aconbere> which means I'm missing some key packages
[06:09] <aconbere> I want to install those packages
[06:09] <aconbere> and move on
[06:09] <Remmy> mcjerry: Prolly the last time I buy me modern stuff, hehe... couldn't get Mandriva to install at all
[06:09] <aconbere> but I can't for whatever reason
[06:09] <thoreauputic> aconbere: have you tried doing a server install, then doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:09] <pashaw> aconbere,   ??? the install never finished?
[06:10] <aconbere> pashaw: no
[06:10] <saotome_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:10] <saotome_> ok, aparently i did not have gcc, i donwloaded the package
[06:10] <aconbere> pashaw: and there doesn't seem to be a way to restart at the second stage
[06:10] <saotome_> but now the installation is giving me this error
[06:10] <kalin> i don't understand i have my .exe file in my desktop but it doesn't open
[06:10] <thoreauputic> saotome_:  sudo apt-get install build-essentail
[06:10] <mcjerry> Remmy: don't think is smp prob...but could be wrong.....what happened here was I have 2 sata drives and went from 2.6.12-7 to 2.6.12-9 and 2nd sata would not detect in ubuntu but when i went to 2.6.12-10 it worked fine
[06:10] <saotome_> am i missing a dependency for gcc?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> *essential
[06:10] <thoreauputic> saotome_: see above
[06:10] <kalin> with wine
[06:10] <aconbere> thoreauputic: no I haven't do you suppose that might work better?
[06:10] <pashaw> aconbere,  well  you went from this> pashaw: well I tried openssh-server and gnome-taskbar  to  install failing
[06:10] <thoreauputic> saotome_: you need "build-essential"
[06:10] <trivistius> or maybe someone could tell me how to edit  '/etc/modules.conf' to add config options for ALSA, it doesn't seem to exist in ubuntu?
[06:11] <mcjerry> Remmy: so you could look for more current 2.6.12-x in curent packages to see before changing too dapper...
[06:11] <aconbere> pashaw: nah you just missed some sections
[06:11] <thoreauputic> aconbere: worth a try :)
[06:11] <Remmy> mcjerry: In my case it would not even boot, said it could not open /dev/sda1 for writing (!?)
[06:11] <Amaranth> Remmy: dapper?
[06:11] <Remmy> mcjerry: I just dl'ed 2.6.15
[06:11] <Remmy> Amaranth: Breezy till now
[06:11] <Amaranth> 2.6.15 in dapper has that error too
[06:11] <Linfan> can somebody please tell me what i need to do so that i can use my wifi button to turn it on and off-the led is not showing so i dont know if its on or off
[06:11] <saotome_> this keeps getting better and better
[06:11] <saotome_> E: Couldn't find package build-essentail
[06:11] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <Remmy> Amaranth: Oh joy :(
[06:11] <saotome_> ooh wait
[06:11] <Linfan> somebody please tell me what i need to download
[06:12] <Goldfisch> Remmy: I would hate to do a full-blown dist-upgrade just to try a kernel out. I would rather build one, give it a whirl to see if it works instead.
[06:12] <mcjerry> Remmy: what fs is root part?
[06:12] <lmsilva> guys hello, has anyone tried FreePascal and Lazarus? I'm having trouble recompiling Lazarus with GTK2 in my Breezy
[06:12] <pashaw> aconbere,   thoreauputic's suggestion is a good idea to try if desktop install keeps failing
[06:12] <Amaranth> Linfan: I don't think you can just download something and have it work.
[06:12] <Remmy> mcjerry: The sda one, 0,0,0
[06:12] <saotome_> ok... building...
[06:12] <Linfan> so what do i need to do?
[06:12] <Remmy> Goldfisch: Perhaps you're right... hmmm
[06:13] <garry> I see that in order to send a /say I have to send all those /msg commands to the nickserver every day, Ie, I have to re-register every day eh?
[06:13] <Linfan> even my mute button is not lighting up
[06:13] <pashaw> garry,   you can put your nick and password in your irc client
[06:14] <trivistius> no one familiar with 5.10 support for sound cards that aren't autodetected?
[06:14] <Amaranth> !sound
[06:14] <saotome_> i understand this is a headache
[06:14] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:14] <saotome_> i friend of my told me a very scary story about this one
[06:14] <saotome_> checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found
[06:14] <kalin> i tried with wine abc.exe but my file didn't open
[06:14] <garry> Please don't send me tells when you know I can't reply. I did put my nick and password in the client.
[06:14] <mcjerry> wonders why it is so busy here tonight?
[06:14] <saotome_> now what?
[06:14] <Corrupter> i have a big question
[06:14] <Goldfisch> Where can I set up nickserv user passwords in X-Chat? I looked for that before, but was unsuccessful.
[06:14] <kalin> it appears cannot find file abc.exe
[06:15] <crimsun> saotome_: install libncurses5-dev
[06:15] <saotome_> mcjerry: guess a lot of people are having trouble with mysql
[06:15] <Linfan> what file type does ubuntu use for system sounds? and also where do i drop them
[06:15] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: edit the server
[06:15] <crimsun> Linfan: .wav
[06:15] <bshumate> thoreauputic: sorry.
[06:15] <crimsun> Linfan: /usr/share/sounds/
[06:15] <Linfan> cool
[06:15] <thoreauputic> bshumate: it's OK :)
[06:15] <ilba7r> installing ndiswrapper and the broadcom wireless drives is hell :(
[06:15] <garry> I tried it Goldfisch and it registered with the last three letters of my nick cut off, but acted as if it registered.
[06:15] <Corrupter> can anybody help me?
[06:16] <crimsun> Corrupter: don't ask to ask
[06:16] <nalioth_zZz> Corrupter: dont ask to ask.
[06:16] <sethk> Corrupter, not unless you ask a question
[06:16] <thoreauputic> bshumate: if you have a question it is better to ask in channel - you have nearly 600 people who might help :)
[06:16] <pashaw> saotome_,   why are you stuck on using that version of MySQL?   curious
[06:16] <Corrupter> yes, well, whenever i actually ASK, everyone ignores me, so i figured i'd get peoples attention first this time
[06:16] <kalin> my .exe file doesn't open with wine!!!!!!!
[06:16] <Corrupter> i had a icon on my desktop that will not delete, even though it's already deleted
[06:16] <Toma-> anyone know any cool mmorpg's for linux?
[06:16] <nalioth_zZz> Corrupter: refresh your desktop
[06:17] <Corrupter> how?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> Corrupter: they aren't ignoring you - they might not have an answer, and the channel is busy
[06:17] <lmsilva> plz any guidance on recompiling Lazarus under GTK2??
[06:17] <Corrupter> i don't mean right now, i've just had a lot of things that people have literally ignored
[06:17] <ideafix> what is lazarus ?
[06:17] <Goldfisch> Hooray! It works. I got X-Chat nickserv passwords configured. :)
[06:17] <thoreauputic> Corrupter: try killall nautilus - it respawns
[06:17] <kalin> please tell me... my .exe fle doesn't open with wine
[06:17] <trivistius> like me
[06:17] <garry> That was my question what is lazarus.
[06:17] <kalin> it disn't find the file
[06:18] <lmsilva> ideafix: Lazarus is a Linux RAD very much like Delphi in Windows (Pascal-based RAD)
[06:18] <dotchad> i unzipped firefox then tried to run it, but this occours: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libs tdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:18] <mcjerry> saotome_: you any good at sql query to update from excel cvs each day to add new from cvs and delete from mysql if not in daily cvs?
[06:18] <dotchad> halp pls
[06:18] <bshumate> thoreauputic: not a question, rather an observation for improvement to ubotu's reference on ntfs.  having observed the channel all day, the subject of ntfs writing is a faq, and if one could "!ntfs" or "tell foo about ntfs" and it include the disclaimer that ntfs writing under Linux is dangerous, it would be an improvement over ubotu's current answer on the subject...that is all. ;-)
[06:18] <Corrupter> well, that worked, thanks
[06:18] <Toma-> lmsilva: how are you compiling it? and are you getting any errors?
[06:18] <sethk> dotchad, install it with synaptic
[06:18] <crimsun> dotchad: install libstdc++5
[06:18] <ideafix> i though its was something like the bible reading thing
[06:18] <krazykit> so, how could i remove gaim via aptitude?  it keeps telling me ubuntu-desktop breaks if i do.  i want to install the new beta, but i'd rather not have both binaries on there
[06:19] <dotchad> i saw at synaptic, seems the version 6 is installed
[06:19] <thoreauputic> bshumate: OK thanks for the observation :)
[06:19] <sethk> krazykit, install the new and then uninstall the current
[06:19] <dotchad> anyway, i need the v5?
[06:19] <lmsilva> Toma: basically the fonts look horrible and I read that I must rebuild it (from inside the program) using GTK2 libs....
[06:19] <crimsun> dotchad: yes
[06:19] <dotchad> ;o
[06:19] <Tupper> Quick question... installed Ubuntu DVD on a HP ze2000 laptop, and it installed fine after I installed some ATI drivers.  However, now whenever I boot, I get into Gnome and it crashes out to console logon, does nothing for about 3 seconds, then says that my PC has overheated to 144C... mind you that it has been off for about 3 hours now.  Any ideas?
[06:19] <Toma-> inside the program?!
[06:19] <dotchad> il try
[06:19] <krazykit> sethk: um... i was gonna just build it... it wasn't going to be in apt
[06:19] <sethk> dotchad, I didn't say to use synaptic to install the library.  I said to use synaptic to install firefox
[06:19] <ideafix> stop spaming
[06:19] <kalin> =..(
[06:19] <bshumate> thoreauputic: sure thing.
[06:19] <kalin> =..(
[06:19] <lmsilva> Toma: so I downloaded the libs and GTK2 for Pascal but don't know how to let Lazarus see them... I'm getting "can't find gtk2pixbuf"
[06:19] <kalin> =..(
[06:19] <sethk> krazykit, then you do have to install the library, which you'll also find in synaptic
[06:19] <dotchad> seth_k|lappy, 1,5?
[06:20] <ideafix> stop spamming
[06:20] <Toma-> lmsilva: you need the -dev packages
[06:20] <krazykit> sethk: ok, thanks
[06:20] <Toma-> I gotta go, bbl.
[06:20] <dotchad> sethk, 1.5?
[06:20] <sethk> Tupper, fry eggs on the computer?
[06:20] <Tupper> Tried that ;x
[06:20] <Tupper> No dice.
[06:20] <sethk> dotchad, 1.5 what?
[06:20] <kalin> help!!!!
[06:20] <Tupper> It is definitely not actually running at 144C.  My case would have melted.
[06:21] <kalin> wine cannot find my .exe file
[06:21] <sethk> Tupper, what does the bios say about the temperature?
[06:21] <Tupper> Normal temps, around 60 max
[06:21] <crimsun> Tupper: probably an ACPI issue, try booting with it disabled.
[06:21] <Goldfisch> Tupper: Must be that kteacooker application. It is hooked into real temperature sensors. :)
[06:21] <thoreauputic> !tell bshumate about ntfs
[06:21] <sethk> Tupper, hmm.  you'll have to turn off the temperature protection
[06:21] <thoreauputic> bshumate: better?
[06:21] <Tupper> Is that a boot switch?
[06:21] <Tupper> option rather
[06:21] <nekostar>  dont call me a *itch@!@@
[06:21] <dotchad> crimsun, pwned!! :D thanks a lot
[06:21] <nekostar> hehe
[06:22] <pashaw> kalin,  the wine forums or channel might be a better place for that question
[06:22] <sethk> Tupper, I'm not sure whether there is a boot switch for it.  There are kernel compile options.  I think if you disable power control, then you also disable the temperature sensing, but I'm not certain
[06:22] <garry> The only time I ever got a wine issue where the file was not found was when I wanted to just copy a huge game instead of installing it via wine all over again and doing 2 hours of re-dowloading patches I already had. I would rather copy it over, but such is wine, tis bitter sometimes.
[06:22] <Remmy> Thanks for the help Goldfisch, mcjerry and Amaranth ... going to give it all a try...
[06:22] <Goldfisch> Remmy: ;)
[06:22] <krazykit> sethk: err.... which library would that be?  the one i need to install to remove the gaim packages...
[06:22] <Tupper> Ack, that'd mess with my AC\battery statuses won't it?
[06:22] <kalin> how can i get to that forum man?
[06:22] <mcjerry> goodluck
[06:22] <nofear> hey i got a stupid question.    I am on a satilite connection and i got a idiot for a brother who downloads alot.. and I want to set up a box using ubuntu to shair internet connections but I want to cap downloads to a certain speed.   is that possible?
[06:22] <saotome_> i'm looking at the 'INSTALL-SOURCE' file, which gives me a list of the common instalation options, but i think there is another list i can look at
[06:23] <WeBDsIgNNeR> Where can I find a Partition Logic Tutorial?
[06:23] <saotome_> i need to choose default storage engine, active ndb, and stuff like tat
[06:23] <saotome_> need to check out the configure script options
[06:23] <Goldfisch> kalin: Go to www.google.com and type "linux wine forum". Worth a shot, ehh?
[06:23] <binarydigit> nofear: yes it is
[06:23] <sethk> nofear, yes, it's possible
[06:23] <binarydigit> nofear: take a look at ipcop, for the easiest way
[06:23] <nofear> got any sites i could read up on so i can attempt it?
[06:24] <WeBDsIgNNeR> Where can I find a Partition Logic Tutorial?
[06:24] <kalin> ok man thanks a lot
[06:24] <krazykit> WeBDsIgNNeR: google?
[06:24] <nofear> ipcop? i'll search that on google
[06:24] <Goldfisch> Doesn't the kernel support network traffic shaping? Is that what he is looking for?
[06:24] <saotome_> yeah, was about to say that
[06:24] <saotome_> can't go wrong with google
[06:24] <pashaw> nofear,     and squid
[06:24] <nofear> It's just so fustrating being on a sat connection... my brother likes to download porn and get's us FAP'ed all the time.
[06:25] <WeBDsIgNNeR> [krazykit] : yeah but no in portuguese
[06:25] <WeBDsIgNNeR> :/
[06:25] <saotome_> where can i find a list with the options for the configure script (installing mysql source)
[06:25] <saotome_> nofear: question
[06:25] <pashaw> saotome_,   google   mysql install source
[06:25] <saotome_> how does the uplink work?
[06:25] <saotome_> i mean, i know the satelite sends to your receiver for downstream
[06:25] <saotome_> but how does the upstream work?
[06:25] <nofear> I've uploaded at 45Kb/sec once.
[06:26] <nofear> i have 256kbit for my upload.
[06:26] <crimsun> nofear: use 'tc'
[06:26] <nofear> 1mbit down 256 up
[06:26] <nofear> it works pretty well as long as u dont get fapped
[06:26] <pashaw> saotome_,   they have 2way sat now
[06:26] <phreq> Has anyone here tried to run Ubuntu Breezy, i386 Live on a Compaq Presario V2000 laptop?
[06:26] <nofear> FAP sucks becuase then your slower than Dialup
[06:26] <nofear> tc?
[06:27] <nofear> writing this down! LOL
[06:27] <rhart> nofear: a linux bridging firewall can also shape traffic
[06:27] <crimsun> nofear: just search the Web for traffic shaping how-tos
[06:27] <nofear> allright
[06:27] <nofear> I am asuming to do this I'd need two lan cards am I correct?
[06:28] <Goldfisch> Does iptables have traffic shaping? Wouldn't surprise me. That thing can do everything except your income taxes (and I bet they're working on that too!)
[06:28] <binarydigit> nofear: the easiest to do, is get ipcop, manage everything from a web based approach
[06:28] <garry> Too bad you can't write a program to put bill gate
[06:28] <phreq> I don't think iptables does.
[06:28] <nofear> sweet
[06:28] <nofear> I'll do that then
[06:28] <rhart> nofear: it will require 2 cards for a bridging firewall
[06:28] <binarydigit> i set up something similar in like 20 minutes with it
[06:28] <garry> I hate fat enter keys that get in the way of shift keys.
[06:28] <nofear> ok, will ipcop require 2 cards too?
[06:28] <binarydigit> ya
[06:28] <nofear> okay not a prob
[06:28] <nofear> i got all that.
[06:29] <binarydigit> dont need a powerful comp at all
[06:29] <binarydigit> take an old pc
[06:29] <nofear> I just never delt with internet shairing and all that jaz on linux before
[06:29] <nofear> due to routers LOL
[06:29] <binarydigit> yea, it makes it real easy
[06:29] <binarydigit> i was gonna try to do it myself
[06:29] <Goldfisch> ipcop is like building your own firewall+router on a linux machine.
[06:29] <nofear> yeah i got a amd k7 750 + a 20 gig drive im gona use
[06:29] <phreq> I wanted to use tc to give priorities to certain services over others, I still haven't figured it out. That is, I could have a download continuously going on my 3Kb/s downstream, but if someone jumped on http it would get priority. :P
[06:29] <garry> write a program to find all pics your bro has downloaded and paste a watermark of some ugly crone all over his porn.
[06:29] <rhart> nofear: the cool thing about bridging it allows you to filter and shape without routing
[06:29] <pashaw> nofear, p200 64MB  is all you need for ipcop    i use a p2-400 512mb for our company
[06:29] <nofear> i just hope it got ram.. lol
[06:30] <nurfe> Is there a way to tell what Version of Ubuntu is running on a computer?
[06:30] <Tupper> Okay here's something else.  The BIOS doesn't list any heat sensors, so I'm guessing that Ubuntu is getting a gibberish value.  How do I disable ACPI?
[06:30] <binarydigit> hah
[06:30] <phreq> uname -a nurfer.
[06:30] <phreq> Er. Urfe
[06:30] <phreq> Grrr.
[06:30] <nofear> My friend has a program that does that.
[06:30] <nurfe> :)
[06:30] <binarydigit> Tupper: you can remove it through apt
[06:30] <nofear> soem type of packit sniffer
[06:30] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[06:30] <nofear> and u can see pictures that are coming in on the network
[06:30] <phreq> Ethereal.
[06:30] <phreak97> gah, i need xmms to support japanese
[06:30] <Tupper> apt-get remove acpi or something
[06:30] <Tupper> ?
[06:30] <pashaw> nofear,  dont need mor than 64mb  unless you use the squid proxy cache i doubt you will
[06:31] <phreak97> all i can get is a mash of kanjis in wrong places
[06:31] <binarydigit> Tupper: search first to see the exact package name
[06:31] <binarydigit> but yea
[06:31] <nofear> okay
[06:31] <Tupper> kk
[06:31] <nofear> brb 1 sec gona check see if that machine has any ram in it
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> would one ofyou please take a minute and help me by filingh a bug report on my behalf for dapper?  i attempted to do so myself and dont know the answer to half the fill in the blank boxes
[06:31] <nurfe> can you tell me what version IE Hoary/Breezy Etc with this? "Linux laptop 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:31] <nurfe> " ??
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> breezy
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> the latest breezy
[06:31] <nurfe> Thank you. :)
[06:31] <saotome_> 5.10
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> your welcome
[06:32] <nurfe> Actually 1 more question... How did you know?
[06:32] <Goldfisch> The Shadow knows!
[06:32] <saotome_> lol
[06:32] <garry> latest kernel version
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> .12-10
[06:32] <pashaw> nurfe,   thats the kernel breezy uses right now
[06:32] <nofear> oh my
[06:32] <nofear> it even has a hardrive in it!
[06:32] <nurfe> :)  Thanks yet again. :D
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> i have a quetion about the new kernel as well
[06:32] <nofear> I am in luck
[06:33] <nofear> thank you all so ever much for all the help :)
[06:33] <shadeofgrey> for some reason i now have 2 listings in my grub boot list for breezy -- ione with the old kernel and recov. mode, and one with the new kernel and recov. mode
[06:33] <phreq> Okay, I've decided this is a more general X question. I'll hop over to ##linux...
[06:33] <nofear> and btw... ubuntu rocks :P
[06:33] <shadeofgrey> how do i safely remove the antiquated one from the list?
[06:33] <nofear> i love the os
[06:33] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: 2.6.12-9-[..]  and 2.6.12-10-[..]  ?
[06:33] <Goldfisch> shadeofgrey: That is because you have two kernels installed. You can run either one. Look in /boot, and you will see two sets of files.
[06:34] <Goldfisch> When I installed ubuntu, it tried to upgrade my kernel, but my celeron 433 choked big time, so I uninstalled the newer kernel.
[06:34] <garry> You can sudo gedit menu.lst in the /boot directory, it might be in there or in /boot/grub/ but just comment out the unwanted ones with #
[06:34] <ITSa341> Hello
[06:35] <pashaw> shadeofgrey,   its not hurting anything  id just ignore it
[06:35] <shadeofgrey> okay
[06:35] <saotome_> how do i safely remove an old kernel?
[06:35] <Goldfisch> shafeofgrey: type dpkg-l | grep linux-image, and you should see the packages they are installed as. Just more fyi.
[06:35] <saotome_> i still have the old kernel on grub, which is annoying
[06:35] <saotome_> and is just using up unnecesarily disk space
[06:35] <garry> I agree with pashaw, it don't hurt to have extra incase one of the kernels gets corrupted.
[06:35] <nofear> okay all I'll be back  in a while
[06:35] <Goldfisch> saotome_: dpkg -P linux-image-x.y.z, will remove it from your system (grub included).
[06:35] <ITSa341> How do I return to the original kernel? I installed a different kernel and now powernow doesn't work.
[06:35] <saotome_> cool!
[06:36] <binarydigit> ITSa341: is it still listed in grub
[06:36] <binarydigit> the old one
[06:36] <binarydigit> that is
[06:36] <Goldfisch> saotome_: grub has some hooks built in so that when you install/remove kernel packages, they automatically update grub.
[06:36] <ITSa341> not sure, how do I find out without rebooting?
[06:36] <binarydigit> check menu.lst
[06:36] <binarydigit> in /boot/grub
[06:36] <ilba7r> shadeofgrey sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.12-9.386 if you want to get rid of the old kernel
[06:36] <saotome_> thanks
[06:36] <redearl> question ? where can I find the password for ububtu that is the VMware image?
[06:36] <ITSa341> brb
[06:36] <pashaw> lol   talking about removing kernels  and here comes someone who wishes they didnt
[06:37] <Goldfisch> Only remove a kernel when you have thoroughly tested the newer running one. I can't stress this enough!
[06:37] <ElitePete> anyone seen that video on how to install ubuntu? the guy did a nice job.
[06:37] <Goldfisch> Kernels don't waste THAT much disk space.
[06:38] <ElitePete> how big is a kernel?
[06:38] <phreak97> can xmms minimize to tray?
[06:38] <ElitePete> phreak97, get the applet for it, rocks.
[06:38] <Goldfisch> ElitePete: Go to /boot. The vmlinuz file is the binary kernel image.
[06:38] <Goldfisch> ElitePete: type ls -lh
[06:38] <ElitePete> Goldfisch, how big is it :-P
[06:39] <ITSa341> binarydigit  no, lots listed there ( I tried a few ) but not the original one I had when I first installed
[06:39] <ElitePete> 26kb ?
[06:39] <binarydigit> ITSa341: you can try reinstalling it from synaptic
[06:39] <Goldfisch> ElitePete: I don't know how big YOU'RE kernel is. You have to go find out for yourself. :)
[06:39] <ElitePete> whats average? :-)
[06:40] <mcjerry> what is the command in xchat to set autorejoin on?
[06:40] <ITSa341> binary, how do I know which one to install to go back to original?
[06:40] <phreak97> ElitePete, how?
[06:40] <pashaw> ElitePete,   including modules  at most 20mb?
[06:40] <binarydigit> well was breezy your install?
[06:40] <Tupper> Quick question... installed Ubuntu DVD on a HP ze2000 laptop, and it installed fine after I installed some ATI drivers.  However, now whenever I boot, I get into Gnome and it crashes out to console logon, does nothing for about 3 seconds, then says that my PC has overheated to 144C... mind you that it has been off for about 3 hours now.  I just tried to boot in recovery mode, and the thing keeps halting when I get halfway through bootup.  I can't disable
[06:40] <Tupper> ACPI, as I can't even get into a usable console before it screws up...
[06:40] <intelikey> kernel source requires 40 - 70 mb disk space while a kernel requires as little as 35kb  or as much as 16+ mb  modules not included.  how ever a kernel larger than 1m is seldom bootable as i understand it.
[06:40] <ITSa341> yup
[06:40] <Tupper> ACPI, as I can't even get into a usable console before it screws up...
[06:40] <Wilf> i love it when you get the password wrong to unlock the screed
[06:40] <Wilf> DENIED
[06:40] <Tupper> Er, disregard that :D
[06:41] <Tupper> But anyways, yeah.  Is there any boot options to disable ACPI, temp sensors, or shutting down on temp sensor?
[06:41] <binarydigit> i believe that would be 2.6.12-9
[06:41] <ElitePete> anyone else use azureus and all the text bleeds together for torrents?
[06:41] <Tupper> Otherwise I'm kinda screwed
[06:41] <ITSa341> binary  tyvm
[06:41] <mcjerry> what is the command in xchat to set autorejoin on?
[06:41] <phreak97> Wilf,  youre right, it's awesome
[06:41] <phreak97> lmao
[06:41] <binarydigit> np
[06:41] <Goldfisch> Can't you enter a grub boot parameter like noacpi? Or am I thinking of noapic?
[06:41] <phreak97> i just did it to see
[06:41] <phreq> I think you could pass arguments to the kernel during boot.
[06:41] <ITSa341> bbiab
[06:41] <crimsun> Goldfisch: acpi=off or pci=noacpi
[06:42] <pashaw> Goldfisch,    acpi=off
[06:42] <Tupper> acpi=off will do it?
[06:42] <Tupper> kk, will try.  thanks guys
[06:43] <Goldfisch> You need to put that in the /boot/grub/menu.lst where kopt is.
[06:43] <phreq> Mine is at /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:43] <garry> I had to take out all my acpi stuff when I recompile kernels because I got so sick of these gripes about deprecated apci variables that I could not stand it any more. All apci is gone but it still gripes.
[06:43] <phreq> Hm... Could be Fedora's doing.
[06:43] <saotome_> hey, i did it!!
[06:44] <saotome_> everything is possible after all!
[06:44] <garry> grats!
[06:44] <saotome_> thanks everybody
[06:44] <saotome_> lol
[06:44] <intelikey> tupper on a really borked system, repairs can sometimes be affected by using  ' init=/bin/bash '  in the input line of the kernel at boot.
[06:44] <qwerty> hello everyone
[06:44] <redearl> hello all
[06:45] <pashaw> hello
[06:45] <redearl> question ? where can I find the password for ububtu that is the VMware image?
[06:45] <qwerty> i have no idea
[06:46] <Goldfisch> Wilf: So, you like sushi?
[06:46] <ElitePete> MiRC detected
[06:46] <garry> Here comes Paranha linux!
[06:46] <Wilf> mIRC?
[06:46] <Wilf> how inulting!
[06:47] <Wilf> without an s!
[06:47] <garry> mea culpa
[06:47] <Goldfisch> Yeah, I remember those miRC days.
[06:47] <ElitePete> i don't
[06:47] <intelikey> thoreauputic which cliche ?
[06:47] <phreak97> where can i get the xmms-applet package?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> intelikey: "large trout" slaps are a cliche :)
[06:47] <pashaw> redearl,   did you unzip the image?
[06:48] <crimsun> phreak97: which, gxmms-xmms or xmms-status-plugin?
[06:48] <phreq> apt-get. ^_-
[06:48] <xenex> brb cleaning my bed after pissing in it
[06:48] <Wilf> XChat > mIRC
[06:48] <Wilf> my a long way.
[06:48] <Wilf> by*
[06:48] <qwerty> does ubuntu have konsole
[06:49] <phreq> Agreed.
[06:49] <thoreauputic> !start an IRC client war
[06:49] <ubotu> xchat is better than gaim !
[06:49] <thoreauputic> ;)
[06:49] <Wilf> Wilf > thoreauputic
[06:49] <ZeroIRC> LIAR!
[06:49] <Wilf> by a long way
[06:49] <phreq> Telnet's his IRC. ;)
[06:49] <Goldfisch> ksirc is the best!
[06:49] <intelikey> qwerty not by default.
[06:49] <Wilf> bitchx!
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: I expect you are right, in all humility :)
[06:49] <phreak97> crimsun, i dont know, all i want to do is be able to minimize to tra
[06:50] <phreak97> tray*
[06:50] <qwerty> im on the live version and it doesnt look like it does, but on the installed version does it have alot more stuff
[06:50] <crimsun> phreak97: then you probably want the former
[06:50] <pashaw> FYI-  if someone asks the Ubuntu VMWare password again    its user=ubuntu password=ubuntu  :P
[06:50] <qwerty> such as konsole
[06:50] <phreak97> probably
[06:50] <pashaw> sorry i ment the vmware prebuilt image
[06:50] <phreak97> where do i get it then?
[06:50] <crimsun> phreak97: from universe.
[06:50] <phreq> Try apt-get install konsole
[06:50] <phreak97> synaptic got it?
[06:50] <phreak97> ok
[06:50] <intelikey> qwerty you can install 'MOST' gnu software on ubuntu
[06:50] <phreq> I love apt-get.
[06:50] <Toma-> isnt konsole part of kde-bin?
[06:51] <phreq> Iunno, but it can stand alone. I run it on XFCE on occasion...
[06:51] <thoreauputic> qwerty: Applications- Accessories - Terminal ? Or do you *really* want konsole ?
[06:51] <crimsun> it's part of kdebase, yes.
[06:51] <Toma-> i guess not
[06:51] <intelikey> Toma- no but it is part of the kdebase package i think.
[06:51] <qwerty> so really is that a yes or no
[06:51] <phreak97> is there an advantage to using apt-get rather than the synaptic gui?
[06:51] <garry> I got it when I used synaptec to get kde. It is part of kde. but if you just get he konsole it shows up in gnome too.
[06:52] <ZeroIRC> asdfgh
[06:52] <Goldfisch> phreak97: Does not taking 30 seconds just to pull up the GUI count?
[06:52] <intelikey> !info knosole
[06:52] <thoreauputic> qwerty: Kubuntu has Konsola, Ubuntu has gnome-terminal
[06:52] <crimsun> phreak97: in certain instances, yes (cf. apt-get build-dep, apt-get source, etc.)
[06:52] <phreak97> doesnt here anyway
[06:52] <phreak97> ok
[06:52] <pashaw> phreak97, apt-cache  is faster than GUI search on older systems
[06:52] <phreak97> alright, so for now i guess synaptic is fine for me
[06:52] <thoreauputic> pashaw: it's faster, period
[06:52] <ZeroIRC> asdfgh
[06:53] <qwerty> is kubuntu free
[06:53] <ZeroIRC> yes
[06:53] <thoreauputic> qwerty: of course
[06:53] <phreak97> ok, i have gxmms installed, how do i use it?
[06:53] <qwerty> is kubuntu on the ubuntu cd or not
[06:53] <pashaw> thoreauputic,  agreed
[06:53] <intelikey> qwerty like i said you can install 'MOST' gnu software on ubuntu.   that includes kubuntu-desktop    or just the  kdebase   either of them will give your ubuntu konsole.
[06:53] <garry> no
[06:53] <crimsun> phreak97: it has documentation in /usr/share/doc/gxmms-xmms
[06:53] <dotchad> amazing channel
[06:53] <phreak97> thanks
[06:54] <maskd> qwerty, ubuntu is linux with gone, kubuntu is the same except gnome is kde
[06:54] <qwerty> is it big?
[06:54] <maskd> they both have their own CD's
[06:54] <phreq> Kubuntu?
[06:54] <maskd> gone = gnome btw
[06:54] <pashaw> dotchad,  buttering us up for a big question huh?
[06:55] <phreq> Kubuntu = (Ubuntu - GNOME) + KDE
[06:55] <dotchad> no ;p
[06:55] <intelikey> qwerty do /msg ubotu info kubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <garry> you can dl the kde stuff, and then the system says you are running kbuntu when you are in kde and ubuntu when in gnome.
[06:55] <ITSa341> bbiab
[06:55] <phreq> You can always remove GNOME and install, say, fluxbox. ;)
[06:55] <maskd> or xfce4 ;)
[06:55] <pashaw> qwerty,   you can have full kubuntu  after installing base ubuntu and running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <phreq> Or twm. Heh.
[06:55] <intelikey> qwerty do /msg ubotu info kdebase
[06:55] <phreak97> crimsun, it doesnt tell me much
[06:56] <Goldfisch> phreq: Now you're talking!
[06:56] <phreq> I like twm. ^_-
[06:56] <Goldfisch> !tell qwerty about kdebase
[06:56] <phreq> It's about the only thing that runs quickly on my box.
[06:56] <phreq> I need to grab Fluxbox.
[06:56] <ara> i use the command "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /home/ara/mymedia -o umask=1000" to hook my second hard drive, if i want to put this into /etc/fstab do i need to change it?
[06:56] <qwerty> where can i download konsole
[06:57] <phreq> A little.
[06:57] <phreq> Read the man fstab, it tells which columns hold what values.
[06:57] <intelikey> quert synaptic package manager
[06:57] <dotchad> it's amazing cause there r lots of people, mostly helpful. therefore you can ask anytime that you'll have an answer
[06:57] <qwerty> where can i download konsole
[06:58] <maskd> ara, try /dev/hdb1	/home/ara/mymedia	ntfs	umask=100	0	0
[06:58] <phreq> qwerty: Use apt-get.
[06:58] <intelikey> qwerty ^
[06:58] <maskd> woops, change 100 to 1000
[06:58] <qwerty> in what the terminal, or root terminal
[06:58] <garry> Did we not just say its part of kde? Just search for it with synaptic and get it.
[06:58] <intelikey> qwert synaptic package manager
[06:58] <thoreauputic> qwerty:  sudo apt-get install konsole
[06:58] <phreq> Open any term and type sudo apt-get install konsole
[06:58] <kurros> If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.
[06:58] <Goldfisch> !konsole
[06:59] <ubotu> Goldfisch: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:59] <pashaw> qwerty,   System>Admin>Synaptic
[06:59] <thoreauputic> !info konsole
[06:59] <phreq> kurros: I've heard that guy.
[06:59] <ubotu> konsole: (X terminal emulator for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 563 kB, Installed size: 1896 kB
[07:00] <phreq> Does the Ubuntu live boot with all the drivers of the install CD?
[07:00] <maskd> qwerty, why use konsole? why not just use gnome-terminal?
[07:01] <phreq> I'm looking at my video modules and they look kind of slim.
[07:01] <pashaw> phreq,    ??
[07:01] <intelikey> phreq i think it has more vidio drivers that the install boots with....
[07:01] <phreq> Hrm.
[07:01] <crimsun> well heck, you may as well consider rxvt-unicode-lite then.
[07:02] <qwerty> i dont know, i like konsole a lot better
[07:02] <phreq> Well, I'm guessing that the ATI drivers are binary...?
[07:02] <phreq> I like Konsole for transparency.
[07:02] <intelikey> eterm
[07:02] <Goldfisch> I have been a KDE person, until I loaded ubuntu. I like GNOME. I have even converted one of my other desktops to GNOME now.
[07:02] <pashaw> !tell phreq about ati
[07:03] <garry> Just don't tell Linus.
[07:03] <phreq> Alrighty, thanks.
[07:03] <intelikey> Goldfisch i had not definite againsg gnome until i loaded ub  :)
[07:03] <pikeas> Hey folks, I'm having some issues getting TV-out to work with an ATI Radeon 8500 under Breezy.
[07:03] <Goldfisch> garry: I almost said something to that effect earlier. But I was worried my sarcasm wouldn't come across properly. Hah!
[07:03] <windowmaker> yeah, i read about that
[07:03] <pashaw> lol  Linus   is a control freak    thats why he started linux to begin with  just his style
[07:04] <qwerty> what is the default (gnome or KDE) on the live version
[07:04] <Goldfisch> intelikey: Ehh?
[07:04] <garry> Goldfisch I figure I was safe cause I could say that I'm running gnome now.
[07:04] <phreq> Ubuntu is always GNOME.
[07:04] <windowmaker> i used to like KDE too, until i started using gnome in breezy.... KDE looks great but it's too buggy and crashy >=(
[07:04] <bur[n] er> kde 3.5 is nice :)
[07:04] <phreq> Kubuntu is always KDE... isn't there a Xubuntu now too?
[07:04] <levander> Have arstechnica's forums just been down all night?
[07:04] <phreak97> i installed the nvidia manager thing, now where would i find it?
[07:04] <bur[n] er> kde 3.5 finally supports svg :)
[07:04] <Goldfisch> windowmaker: My start was when kmail started segfaulting. After a month, now patches, so I started using evolution.
[07:04] <crimsun> phreq: in some shape & form, yes.
[07:04] <windowmaker> what IS xubuntu? i saw it on osdir
[07:04] <maskd> phreq, xubuntu exists, but you have to do is manually
[07:04] <garry> Now isn't this strange. XChat says I can't send /says but I can. Silly server. LoL
[07:05] <phreq> Oh, okay... I'd rather strip it all away anymore.
[07:05] <levander> windowmaker: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome as desktop environment
[07:05] <Goldfisch> So what the heck is xubuntu?
[07:05] <maskd> windowmaker, xubuntu is xfce4 instead of gnome or kde for your GUI
[07:05] <phreak97> anyone?
[07:05] <phreq> At least on this box. PII w/ 64Mb RAM. :P
[07:05] <windowmaker> maskd: i see
[07:05] <bur[n] er> phreq: xubuntu :)
[07:05] <levander> when are they coming out with eubuntu?
[07:05] <phreq> We;;. O dm
[07:05] <intelikey> phreq xubuntu is supposed to first appear as dapper iirc
[07:05] <phreq> Er. :P
[07:05] <Goldfisch> Only...I'll keep around my knoppix live CD for recovery purposes. It seems to run faster that ubuntu's live CD on my celeron 433 laptop.
[07:05] <bur[n] er> levander: e17?  bleh
[07:06] <windowmaker> what about wubuntu... are they going to make one with windowmaker?
[07:06] <levander> bur[n] er: you've tried it?
[07:06] <pashaw> levander,   yeah they are down for me also   i read them at work  :P
[07:06] <phreq> Tubuntu!
[07:06] <pikeas> ATI drivers installed fine, I've got video out on the TV, but it's the wrong resolution. the desktop horizontal option in the ATI control panel doesn't work at all. nothing too suspicious in my XOrg log file. fglrxinfo, however, doesn't run (no output).
[07:06] <garry> I use both gnome and kde. I not sure which I like more.  I suspect gnome might be less memory intensive but kde with that euphoria screensaver, that screensaver is awesome.
[07:06] <phreq> TWM. ^_^
[07:06] <bur[n] er> or flubuntu :)
[07:06] <windowmaker> haha
[07:06] <windowmaker> fluxbox
[07:06] <levander> pashaw: sucks, i'm really waiting on somebody to answer me a question there
[07:06] <phreq> I'd like Fluxbox.
[07:06] <garry> gnome's noof is my other favorate.
[07:06] <bur[n] er> i've always been partial to fluxbox
[07:06] <Goldfisch> twubuntu?
[07:06] <qwerty> what exactly is Fluxbox
[07:06] <MrPockets> how can one burn a music CD in Ubuntu
[07:06] <pashaw> levander,   they have alot of database trouble  from time to time
[07:06] <phreq> GNOME > KDE as far as resources are concerned.
[07:06] <windowmaker> k3b
[07:06] <levander> pashaw: you've got to wonder if they even have somebody working there that knows it's down
[07:06] <bur[n] er> MrPockets: serpentine
[07:06] <eclair> qwerty: it's a light window manager
[07:06] <garry> wow
[07:06] <windowmaker> phreq: and stability
[07:06] <MrPockets> how do i install that?
[07:07] <phreq> But KDE looks cooler. ;)
[07:07] <windowmaker> how do i change my workgroup in samba? my windows boxes are in "WORKGROUP" and my linux box is in "HOME"... i want to get my linux box in "WORKGROUP"
[07:07] <qwerty> nvm
[07:07] <Toma-> fluxbox is exellent on lower end systems. most modern PC respond quick enough to use gnome or kde without much fuss...
[07:07] <intelikey> how about ' buntu '   for  no X  console users   ;/
[07:07] <qwerty> ill c ya guys later
[07:07] <maskd> phreq; i dunno, KDE's default clock font always pissed me off
[07:07] <garry> some distros have fluxbox on it without saying so.
[07:07] <qwerty> i have to install ubuntu
[07:07] <windowmaker> MrPockets: google, or maybe apt (synaptic)
[07:07] <pashaw> levander,   they do   too many people stay in contract outside the forums   MMOs   CS etc
[07:07] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:07] <phreq> maskd: I've only used it with Fedora Core 3's Bluecurve.
[07:07] <pashaw> levander,   i was in the ARS WOW  guild
[07:07] <windowmaker> bur[n] er, yep, and?
[07:08] <izm81> ok.  i have an external usb hard-drive with 2 partitions.  One of them mounts as "74.5 GB Volume"  and the other doesn't mount because it gives it some weird non-ascii name.  anyone have any  ideas?
[07:08] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: search that file for "home" and change it to "workgroup"
[07:08] <levander> pashaw: what's an MMO and a CS?  and if they know it's down, why wouldn't they reboot?
[07:08] <windowmaker> bur[n] er,  i figured that out... it still thinks i'm part of home
[07:08] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: u can also use:  gksudo "gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[07:08] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: restart samba?
[07:08] <windowmaker> bur[n] er,  how?
[07:08] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[07:08] <phreq> levander: Check out http://en.wikipedia.org and search those acronyms.
[07:09] <pashaw> levander,   dout its that easy   the members are in contact using everything from voice-chat  to aim   so they know    trust me on that
[07:09] <phreq> I'm not sure what they are, but I'll bet Wiki's got something on them.
[07:09] <windowmaker> bur[n] er, awesome, it's working
[07:09] <windowmaker> bur[n] er, thnks
[07:09] <MrPockets> can i apt-get serpentine?
[07:09] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: np
[07:09] <AndrewX> I'm getting Kernel Panic: VFS: not syncing errors at boot. Thinking it has to do with having an IDE and a SATA drive. am I correct?
[07:09] <bur[n] er> windowmaker: as a side note... from windows, do start, run, \\linuxhostname instead of browsing through the network
[07:10] <garry> If they stored all the anachronisms on one server, it would get top heavy and flop over.
[07:10] <thoreauputic> MrPockets: serpentin is installed by default already on Ubuntu
[07:10] <skon> Anyone know how I can put commands in my /etc/motd file instead of just text?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> breezy anyway
[07:10] <pashaw> levander,   CS?   counter-strike    MMO  everquest/worldwarcraft/etc
[07:10] <garry> Yes, AndrewX, FC4 has that issue with ide and sata together.
[07:10] <intelikey> hmmmmm   invoke-rc.d = 11 chars    /etc/init.d/  = 12 chars   not much of an improvement in my book.
[07:11] <MrPockets> thoreauputic, how do i get to it?
[07:11] <AndrewX> garry: rad, except this is ubuntu breezy :)
[07:11] <bur[n] er> intelikey: to each their own ;)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> intelikey: also you can tab-complete /etc/init.d
[07:11] <levander> pashaw: the people who run ars play those games a lot?
[07:11] <Toma-> skon: pretty sure you cant
[07:11] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: u can only tab complete it if you don't use sudo
[07:11] <skon> k
[07:11] <crimsun> intelikey: I suspect we recommend using the former because Debian Policy mandates that packages use the former, not the latter.
[07:11] <pashaw> levander,   lol  yes
[07:11] <intelikey> actually you have to use the space so they are the same
[07:11] <Toma-> skon: what were you planning?
[07:11] <garry> AndrewX yep, but the kernels might be a common cause.
[07:11] <skon> Toma: like I want to run fortune every time someone logs in via SSH
[07:12] <levander> okay, what is FC4?  I thought those were redhat acronyms
[07:12] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: wrong - you just enable programmable completion in .bashrc
[07:12] <crimsun> intelikey: but yes, six of a kind or half a dozen...
[07:12] <levander> pashaw: how you know they play those?
[07:12] <Toma-> skon: add "fortune" to bashrc
[07:12] <skon> okay thanks
[07:12] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: eh?  I'm curious... i want sudo tab-completion, can you enlighten me?
[07:12] <AndrewX> hmm...
[07:12] <thoreauputic> MrPockets: Applications- Sound and Video -Serpentine
[07:12] <Toma-> skon: you'd want the /etc/bash.bashrc file i think
[07:12] <MrPockets> but you see its not there :-\
[07:13] <pashaw> levander,   our clan always knew stuff about the site  before it was posted  like coming articles and such
[07:13] <skon> Toma: what do I do with it?
[07:13] <bur[n] er> MrPockets: alt+f2, type "serpentine"
[07:13] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: read ~/.bashrc and you'll see it - commented out by default
[07:13] <MrPockets> "cannot run location?
[07:13] <intelikey> is invokerc.d  a script by any chance ?
[07:13] <levander> pashaw: ah, cool, kind of makes me wanna invest ungodly amounts of time in those games
[07:13] <adrian__> Is hd0,0 ALWAYS where the MBR is?
[07:14] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: i love you :)
[07:14] <Toma-> skon: just add the word fortune to the end of it, on its own line
[07:14] <adrian__> The first 512 bytes, that is?
[07:14] <pashaw> levander,    dont
[07:14] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: heh heh :)
[07:14] <intelikey> adrian__ yeppers
[07:14] <levander> pashaw: i know, i just got over a battlefield vietnam addiction about five months ago
[07:14] <skon> k
[07:14] <adrian__> if i'm trying to dualboot using NTLDR, and my linux /boot partition is hd0,0 , am I screwed?
[07:14] <levander> pashaw: my favorite game server went down, and I was able to wean off
[07:14] <adrian__> Ah. I guess I am :(
[07:14] <AndrewX> exit
[07:14] <Toma-> skon: you might wanna take out the fortune reference in the user .bashrc files otherwise it'll run twice :)
[07:14] <rjordan> Anyone seen this before? root@aurora:~# modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:14] <rjordan> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[07:15] <adrian__> intelikey, then is there any way to dual-boot using NTLDR if my /boot partition is on hd0,0 ?
[07:15] <levander> rjordan: put sudo at the front
[07:15] <Amaranth> rjordan: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:15] <crimsun> rjordan: I suspect it's the amd64 vs. ia32 issue.
[07:15] <rjordan> I'm already root...
[07:15] <phreq> I get the same thing for gflrx
[07:15] <Amaranth> oh yeah, and ndiswrapper is x86 only
[07:15] <phreq> Er. fglrx
[07:15] <rjordan> crimsun, that'd make sense.
[07:16] <intelikey> adrian__ actually let me recant.   the first 512 of /dev/hda   not /dev/hda1   so lets re think that.
[07:16] <Amaranth> why use NTLDR when you have grub?
[07:16] <adrian__> intelikey, same thing, no?
[07:16] <skon> Toma: thx
[07:16] <Toma-> skon: np.
[07:16] <adrian__> Amaranth, just because =P
[07:16] <intelikey> adrian__ no
[07:16] <phreq> Yeah, use GRUB.
[07:16] <adrian__> intelikey, hmm
[07:16] <phreq> I love GRUB. ^_^
[07:16] <rjordan> phreq, that's odd, I have fglrx running with a turion proc and a mobile ati chip right now.
[07:16] <adrian__> I know I can use grub. I've done it using grub a thousand times. I just want to try it with NTLDR . For the challenge ;)
[07:17] <levander> adrian__: well then you do the challenge, stop bugging us
[07:17] <phreq> Adrian__: Spoken like a true Linux user. Heh.
[07:17] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: BTW that tab completion also works for stuff with apt - like sudo apt-get ins <tab> packag <tab>
[07:17] <adrian__> intelikey, but usually when you install grub, you do: setup (hd0,0)    and that installs it to the mbr, ne? and hd0,0 corresponds to /dev/hda1
[07:18] <phreq> rjordan: This is a Sempron Mobile, not sure the ATI.
[07:18] <bur[n] er> thoreauputic: i'm seeing this :)  wish i knew about it ages ago
[07:18] <phreq> One sec, this is the error X keeps giving me.
[07:18] <bur[n] er> phreq: lspci
[07:18] <adrian__> levander, all I asked was if hd0,0 is the MBR. You guys just jumped me for not using grub.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: never ending discovery process, is *nix ;-)
[07:18] <phreq> Full of Unknown device
[07:18] <intelikey> adrian__ do a   cut -b-80 <test> | grep -m30 | less         where <test> is first  /dev/hda   and next time  /dev/hda1
[07:18] <levander> adrian__: i was joking, but ntldr is microsoft software, and we do have grub that's easier, i'd be surprised if you got support here, but i really don't care
[07:19] <FlannelKing> adrian__, are you referencing it through grub? or what? (since theyre different, one starts at 0, one at 1)
[07:19] <rjordan> phreq, hd(0) is the MBR
[07:19] <intelikey> they are not the same.
[07:19] <rjordan> err...
[07:19] <levander> not that i'm offended, i just don't care because it's not important to me
[07:19] <adrian__> I see.
[07:19] <phreq> Could I just tell it to load a really basic VGA adapter so I could have some form of a GUI? ;)
[07:20] <garry> Its not hard, just get an image of the mbr into a file and list it in ntloader, the trouble is, every time you install a new kernel, it will stop booting if you forget to make a new image file.
[07:20] <Toma-> phreq: what vga card u using?
[07:20] <garry> er list it in boot.ini that is.
[07:20] <adrian__> Still, when you *normally* install grub to mbr, you do: setup (hd0,0) . So if I did that, I would in effect be writing to the MBR. I've no reason to expect NTLDR would still be there, right?
[07:20] <rjordan> phreq, just use the 'ati' driver. that should work.
[07:20] <adrian__> garry, yes, that's what I'm doing -- the problem is that /boot IS my MBR
[07:20] <thoreauputic> phreq:  sudo apkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver?
[07:20] <intelikey> now as to your first quarry adrian__ you can use 'bootloader of choice' to boot the system on hd0,0 yes.
[07:20] <adrian__> So I can't put NTLDR there without overwriting grub
[07:20] <phreq> (EE) RADEON[0] : [dri]  DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
[07:21] <garry> adrian__ hmm.
[07:21] <phreq> One sec, I'll host my err via http.
[07:21] <rjordan> adrian__, no, hd(0,0) is the first partition's beginning not the MBR
[07:21] <Toma-> phreq: use a pastebin
[07:21] <phreq> pastebin?
[07:21] <Toma-> !pastebin
[07:21] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:21] <adrian__> rjordan, then what would I use to setup grub? setup (hd0,0) ?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> !paste
[07:21] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:21] <intelikey> rjordan i just told him that.... even provided a way to confirm it....
[07:21] <adrian__> I understand that
[07:22] <rjordan> setup (hd0)
[07:22] <adrian__> Aah
[07:22] <adrian__> Okay :) That answers it.
[07:22] <adrian__> Thanks, rjordan!
[07:22] <rjordan> np
[07:22] <phreq> Oh goodness.
[07:23] <phreq> I was gonna give a link to my server, but anyway, the display is really bugging out now. I tried to dump stderr into a log and my lcd is now all wavy.
[07:23] <rjordan> phreq, you want graphics but you can't get fglrx working right?
[07:23] <Toma-> sounds like wrong vert sync
[07:23] <garry> I generated my image files to put in boot.ini by using dd if=/dev/hdc1 count=1 bs=512 of=Ubuntu.lin    your device name will probably vary.
[07:23] <Toma-> phreq: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then restart X
[07:24] <Toma-> see if that gives you a working xorg.conf
[07:24] <intelikey> garry if you were trying to image the mbr you missed it.
[07:25] <adrian__> garry, thats exactly what I did..
[07:25] <garry> intelikey it always worked for me.
[07:25] <Tezekiel> Can I install Ubuntu on my machine that already have WindowsXP ?
[07:25] <phreq> Alrighty, gotta restart my laptop.
[07:25] <adrian__> intelikey, not the mbr, just the boot sector of the /boot partition
[07:25] <phreq> Tezekiel: Yes.
[07:25] <skon> is ubuntu-minimal an unnessary package? does anyone know?
[07:25] <adrian__> skon, its a meta-package
[07:25] <adrian__> Its safe to remove
[07:25] <skon> thanks
[07:25] <adrian__> np :)
[07:25] <Tezekiel> phreq : nice
[07:26] <rjordan> Tezekiel, I had a new XP install filling the whole disk with it's partition. Popped in the ubuntu disc, resized it down and installed without incident.
[07:26] <phreq> XP uses NTFS, doesn't it?
[07:26] <DotheGuru> yup
[07:26] <rjordan> yep
[07:26] <owner989> yes
[07:26] <owner989> usually
[07:26] <Toma-> not always
[07:26] <adrian__> lol!
[07:26] <DotheGuru> true
[07:26] <owner989> if its an upgrade it could fat32
[07:26] <intelikey> by default it does.
[07:26] <Tezekiel> rjordan : nice, that was my second question :)
[07:26] <phreq> Does it do better than fat at putting data on platters in groups?
[07:26] <Toma-> you get to choose what type of FS you want in install
[07:27] <phreq> Can I pick ext? ;)
[07:27] <DotheGuru> this crappy recovery drive i have is fat32
[07:27] <owner989> probably phreq, but linux can read and write natively to fat32
[07:27] <Toma-> nop
[07:27] <phreq> Yup. I love Linux.
[07:27] <rjordan> Tezekiel, it even tells you how little you CAN make the windows partition. :D
[07:27] <bur[n] er> u can use ext from within windows, but not install to ext afaik
[07:27] <bur[n] er> www.fs-driver.org for ext2/3 in windows
[07:27] <Toma-> and you cant write to ext3 via windows
[07:27] <phreq> I try to avoid Windows. :P
[07:28] <owner989> you can toma
[07:28] <owner989> with the drivers
[07:28] <AndrewX> yes you can
[07:28] <Tezekiel> vert good... downloading ubuntu now, looking forward to try it out.
[07:28] <bur[n] er> Toma-: u can too
[07:28] <Toma-> well when i used windows i couldnt
[07:28] <bur[n] er> Toma-: i do frequently
[07:28] <Toma-> i guess thats a few years ago now :D
[07:28] <bur[n] er> Toma-: try fs-driver.org instead of explore2fs
[07:28] <bur[n] er> :)
[07:28] <AndrewX> Toma: works fine. it just doesn't use the journaling functions
[07:28] <phreq> Tezekiel: Have to tried the LiveCD?
[07:28] <Toma-> fat + ntfs are redundant in my eyes
[07:28] <intelikey> windows is that, that other os thingy ?
[07:29] <garry> NT stands for nice try.
[07:29] <ara> it seems like that i already have installed the opera but i don't know how to run it
[07:29] <ara> can you tell me how
[07:29] <phreq> locate opera
[07:29] <Tezekiel> phreq : no, but ill try it
[07:29] <phreq> Well, how long ago did you install it?
[07:29] <Toma-> intelikey: i think its the new os/2 :D
[07:29] <ara> yesterday
[07:30] <garry> Toma- Lol
[07:30] <thoreauputic> ara: just typing opera in a terminal shoulr start it - you might want to make a launcher though
[07:30] <phreq> Hm. From a comman-- yeah.
[07:30] <phreq> Or you could opera &, of course.
[07:30] <thoreauputic> better with & , yes
[07:31] <det> Hi, libdvdcss2 is the package for encrypted dvd support, yes?
[07:31] <intelikey> then close the terminal ?
[07:31] <DotheGuru> ya
[07:31] <ara> it won't start, isn't the installation command is " apt-get install opera
[07:31] <thoreauputic> det: yes
[07:31] <ara> ?
[07:31] <phreq> Yeah... what's the error it gives you?
[07:31] <DotheGuru> sudo
[07:32] <thoreauputic> ara: only if you have a repo with opera in it :)
[07:32] <ara> i don't have error installing it won't run
[07:32] <thoreauputic> ara: did you add a repo for opera or download from their site?
[07:33] <ara> i have downloaded a .deb file
[07:33] <intelikey> lol @ lilo
[07:33] <thoreauputic> ara:  sudo dpkg -i opera<tab>
[07:33] <thoreauputic> ara: you have to manually install ith dpkg -i
[07:34] <det> does libdvdcss2 exist for AMD64?
[07:34] <Amaranth> !libdvdcss
[07:34] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:34] <Amaranth> hmm, i wonder if that gives the right instructions
[07:35] <owner989> !obotu
[07:35] <ubotu> owner989: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:35] <AndrewX> det: i had to find an alternate repository with libdvdcss2 on it. it wasn't on the reg one anymore.
[07:35] <ara> it won't , gives me this error-->opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[07:35] <Tezekiel> I bet this is a very noobish question... hehe. I've used WinXp and I often buy things with my visa-card on the internet. I've tried everything to not get scamed, but they have done it 3 times the last year. Will it be harder for people to fraud me when I use Ubuntu(linux)?
[07:36] <FlannelKing> Alright guys, why doesn't my apache2 setup ( http://pastebin.ca/35053 ) allow the rewrites at the bottom of that page?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> ara: that isn't an error - if you have the full error pastebin it
[07:36] <phreq> Augh!
[07:36] <Toma-> det: afaik, libdvdcss2 doesnt exist for amd64 yet
[07:36] <ara> where?
[07:36] <phreq> Okay, X keeps spitting out a bunch of No Symbols Found
[07:36] <thoreauputic> !pastebin
[07:36] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:37] <phreq> det: can't you compile from source?
[07:37] <phreq> Well. If you were desperate.
[07:37] <det> phreq, Usually, that is a last resort :-)
[07:37] <phreq> True. I'd just run the 32bit version. :P
[07:37] <rjordan> Apparently ubuntu is not as cutting edge as I had thought.
[07:37] <Viper12> Tezekiel, that's a tough one to answer.  if you give your card number out to questionable sites, then no OS can stop that issue.  If you stick with reliable transaction sites, its less of a problem.
[07:37] <garry> No if they have your credit card number, an os won't prevent them from fraudulently using it. Best advice is never buy from places you don't know, always google the company name, if from ebay check buyer feedback. Your best protection is pre-investigation.
[07:37] <crimsun> rjordan: who said it was cutting edge? :)
[07:37] <rjordan> ndiswrapper is quite behind.
[07:38] <owner989> i just turned ubuntu into kubuntu one day
[07:38] <crimsun> rjordan: you can always compile it yourself
[07:38] <owner989> and uninstalled gnome
[07:38] <ara> ok i did
[07:38] <rjordan> crimsun, I did not say that someone else claimed it was. I simply said I thought it was.
[07:38] <intelikey> garry better advice is never use credit cards
[07:38] <ara> i just pasted it
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ara: URL?
[07:38] <garry> intelikey indeed.
[07:39] <ara> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6298
[07:39] <crimsun> rjordan: we have to freeze at some point.
[07:39] <alex__> or you can include a debian unstable archive and get it from there
[07:39] <rjordan> crimsun, indeed.
[07:39] <MrPockets> thoreauputic, is there anything esle i can use to burn a CD?
[07:39] <owner989> k3b
[07:39] <smo> OT, but I believe creditcards are safer than cash/money-order
[07:39] <rjordan> alex__, looking for one now. :)
[07:39] <thoreauputic> MrPockets: gnomebaker, k3b, graveman
[07:39] <bubuntu> hello, i would like to report something that looks like a bug and a securty failure .....
[07:39] <owner989> ara that file doesnt exist
[07:40] <AndrewX> smo: safer? I could steal a credit card number without mugging someone. cash, not so much.
[07:40] <MrPockets> which is the easiest for a n00b to install / use?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ara: you are probably in the wrong directory
[07:40] <owner989> that is your problem, you must have mispelled it or wrong path
[07:40] <garry> Visa claims fraud protection, but I got defrauded by a store, and they would not refund because it said in small print on the back of the reciept "All transactions are final."
[07:40] <ara> i just downloaded it
[07:40] <crimsun> bubuntu: bug reports for packages in main go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com; for packages in universe/multiverse, to malone.net/launchpad
[07:40] <ara> should i do it again?
[07:40] <stevenj> can somone please explain how the "red line" works in xchat
[07:40] <owner989> where did it download to
[07:40] <intelikey> smo you believe.   hmmmm  ok.   well  COD   hehhe  cheet that.
[07:40] <owner989> thats what you know
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ara: if it's on your desktop , do   cd ~/Desktop first
[07:40] <ara> ok
[07:40] <crimsun> bubuntu: err, launchpad.net/malone, sorry
[07:41] <thoreauputic> ara: you just need to be in the same directory as the .deb
[07:41] <bubuntu> ok
[07:41] <hydrant> i just realized that ive already created four partitions, but I need to make another (I still have another 100 gb on this drive ^ ^). It does not need to be bootable. Is there any way to get this partition on the drive without hurting any of the data already on there? For example, my /boot and / are two seperate partitions. I could just combine them. Is there any way to do this without losing any data?
[07:41] <bubuntu> i was checking the site and i did not want to have another mailinglist
[07:41] <stevenj> never mind :) heh
[07:42] <owner989> hydrant use gparted
[07:42] <owner989> just unmount the partitions before resizing
[07:42] <adrian__> resizing? I'm not resizing, I'm trying to merge.
[07:43] <adrian__> I have enough SPACE, Im just over the 4-per-drive limit
[07:43] <ara> can you check my bin again? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6299
[07:43] <ara> see what happened
[07:43] <thoreauputic> ara: OK
[07:43] <ilba7r> ara you can add this repos to your sources.list file to install opera deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[07:43] <thoreauputic> ara: looks like it's OK and installed
[07:44] <ara> ok how do i run it?
[07:44] <MrPockets> so i installed serpintine, and i have the  .tar.gz file   how do i install it?
[07:44] <intelikey> i protest the "linux for human beings" logo.    it implies that any other distro is not fit for, or usable by humans        that is totally misleading.  and false.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> ara: type opera &
[07:44] <thoreauputic> ara: see if it starts
[07:44] <Amaranth> intelikey: Please tell me you're joking.
[07:44] <intelikey> i am not.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> intelikey: hah
[07:45] <thoreauputic> intelikey: your logic is totally off :)
[07:45] <revmoo> i have a drive from a mirrored raid array(software), i want to access the files on the drive but mount results in: "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /blah busy" is there any chance of getting at my files? Do i need to mount it raid-style or something?
[07:45] <crimsun> intelikey: it can also be interpreted as "Human beings can use this Linux distribution."
[07:45] <ara> no it gives me error
[07:45] <Amaranth> intelikey: If it said "The only Linux for human beings" you'd have something there.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> ara: where is the .deb. you downloaded?
[07:45] <triceratops> DDIs there a known problem with /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in linux-image2.6.15-8-k7? Here the evbug module is always loaded but it is blacklisted.
[07:46] <intelikey> crimsun which implies that there are distros that they can not.
[07:46] <ara> on my desktop
[07:46] <crimsun> intelikey: it does?
[07:46] <intelikey> read what you just said.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it doesn't imply anything
[07:46] <Amaranth> intelikey: it doesn't say "human beings can use _only_ this linux distrobution"
[07:46] <crimsun> intelikey: you infer context on it.
[07:46] <intelikey> no
[07:46] <Toma-> intelikey: compare gentoo to ubuntu. which one is easier for the basic Sammy-make-it-work-damnit?
[07:47] <garry> Sometimes, things are implied, but the implication is not intended.
[07:47] <smo> intelikey: there probably are distros humans can't use.  linux finds itself into enough embedded appliances that there's very possibly instances where a person can't actually use it.  it's there and it does it's thing
[07:47] <revmoo> tivo..
[07:47] <Amaranth> Toma-: That's not even the point though. It's not saying gentoo can't be used by human beings.
[07:47] <Toma-> yeh i guess
[07:47] <crimsun> I suspect "can" is used here to connote choice.
[07:48] <crimsun> you're free to not use Ubuntu
[07:48] <intelikey> smo  the you give creedance to my protest but refute my reason.   i accept that.
[07:48] <rohan> hi all
[07:48] <thoreauputic> intelikey: if your assertion was true, then all kinds of statements would suddenly take on a different meaning from the intended one - it's really a question of semantics, and syntax etc
[07:48] <loginking> im trying to run xcompmgr but it says no composite extension-?
[07:48] <rohan> how do i install Qt4 on ubuntu ? are pkgs available ?
[07:48] <garry> I didn't feel like a human being after trying to get Gentoo running, but that's probably because my vision stinks and so does my typing, let alone my so called attention span.
[07:48] <Toma-> i think you should just think what you want...
[07:48] <loginking> am i doing something wrong
[07:49] <ara> are you still with me?
[07:49] <crimsun> loginking: you have to explicitly load the extension. Search the Web for instructions.
[07:49] <rohan> !qt4
[07:49] <ubotu> rohan: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> ara: did you  cd ~/Desktop before doing the sudo dpkg -i bit ?
[07:49] <loginking> i want to have drop shadow is this the way t odo it
[07:49] <ara> yes i did
[07:49] <loginking> im following a how to but im stuck in this part
[07:49] <crimsun> loginking: yes; see what I said above.
[07:49] <TTilus> intelikey: it says "linux for...", not "the only linux for..."
[07:50] <w1ldch1ld> hey! i'm having trouble connecting to the internet after upgrading to breezy. i can reach the gateway and login too. but internet won't work. any pointers?
[07:50] <loginking> ok google here i come again'
[07:50] <thoreauputic> ara: type   dpkg -L opera    and see if it installed any files (note capital "L" )
[07:50] <garry> netconfig might do it.
[07:50] <GnarlyBob> I only wish google would release their fun apps for something other than windoze :(
[07:51] <ara> yes it did
[07:52] <w1ldch1ld> what options do i hav other than netconfig?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> ara:  what does the command    "which opera " say? ( without the quotes of course)
[07:52] <intelikey> GnarlyBob yeah like multi-player notepad
[07:52] <Squee-D> mine says "HMS Pinafore"
[07:53] <ara> /usr/bin/opera
[07:53] <thoreauputic> Squee-D: nah - that's only an operetta ;-)
[07:53] <thoreauputic> ara: OK try typing  /usr/bin/opera
[07:53] <Squee-D> thoreauputic oh well, no wonder its not working right
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I've gathered a little bit more diagnostic information, so maybe someone can help me now.
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> The issue is: console switching capability is messed up.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> ara: although just "opera" shuld work - it's in your PATH
[07:54] <hd420> thoreauputic: ok... this officially sucks
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Squee-D: try Rigoletto ;-)
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> On a normal boot, X starts, I log in to my desktop, and after that Ctrl-Alt-F# doesn't work.
[07:54] <Squee-D> i really dont like opera :P
[07:54] <ara> error my friend
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> However, I can open up gnome-terminal, and /etc/init.d/gdm stop.
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> After that, I can switch between consoles just fine.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> Squee-D: oh - well what about "Mozart Symphony 40 " ? *grin*
[07:55] <intelikey> tonyyarusso what vidio drivers ?
[07:55] <smo> w1ldch1ld: Is there a chance it's a dns issue?  does http://72.14.207.99/ get you to google?
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> Additionally, I can log in on tty2 and use startx.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> ara: hmm - running out of ideas - paste your error please
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, The open one for ati.
[07:56] <intelikey> go ahead i didn't mean to interrupt.
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> After issueing startx from the console, it starts up on tty7 as usual, and from there my console switching is still fine, with X running.
[07:56] <w1ldch1ld> smo: didn't try that.
[07:56] <ara> ok
[07:56] <Squee-D> tonyyarusso it's not taking keystrokes when you 'should have switched' is it?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, That's fine, someone had that question previously.
[07:56] <w1ldch1ld> smo: i tried pinging with the DNS name though. i think i get what you mean
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, You mean when it's first up, what happens?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> ara: URL? have you pasted your error?
[07:57] <w1ldch1ld> smo: is it that ubuntu ipv6 resolving issue?
[07:57] <ara> here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6300
[07:57] <thoreauputic> k
[07:57] <ara> the last one
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, In a terminal, Ctrl-Alt-F(1-4) was typing as P, Q, R, and S, respectively.
[07:57] <Squee-D> i mean if you try switch to a console, but nothing happens, are keystrokes still going to X? (like have editor opened or a terminal)
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, Ctrl-Alt-F(5-12) were ;7~
[07:57] <smo> w1ldch1ld: I haven't touched ipv6, and aren't aware of that issue .. dns is simply the first place I look when everything looks good, but I don't reach any host by name
[07:57] <Squee-D> ahhh
[07:57] <Squee-D> so somethings grabbing the keystrokes.
[07:58] <Squee-D> I'd start with the keymapping in term
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ara: I think that's a java problem
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, I also know it still recognized them, because in the keyboard shortcuts menu I could set Ctrl-Alt-F1 as a shortcut for something.
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ara: not sure - someone else might confirm
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, It means nothing to me though, so any translation would be helpful.
[07:58] <intelikey> tonyyarusso that's not the only box that ever did that.   i sujest trying removing the S##gdm from your default runlevel.   probably /etc/rc2.d/S##gdm    then you can start x manually on every boot, or as needed.   it's not a fix but maybe a work around that you can live with.
[07:58] <smo> tonyyarusso: do you get an xkb error when you login to gnome?  Just curious, as I have the same problem with terminal switching, and that xkb error
[07:58] <w1ldch1ld> smo: thanks. i'll go try it
[07:59] <hd420> bugger apache 1.3 is STILL broken on breezy
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> smo: No errors visible anyway.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> ara: segmentation fault is usually a bug - but it seems to be looking for stuff and erroring on those
[08:00] <smo> tonyyarusso: thanks .. was just trying to figure out my own problems, whether the two are related
[08:00] <ara> where do i get java
[08:00] <ara> ?
[08:00] <Squee-D> tonyyarusso its just I had this problem once, but im terribly helpless too. What i did was search /etc/X11 and all those . dirs in my home dir for something looking like a shortcut. removed, tested. failed.. replaced and moved on until i finally found the setting. that was quite some time ago.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Do you know why it would work when starting manually and not otherwise?
[08:00] <thoreauputic> ara: do you have java installed?
[08:00] <garry> Hehe, I got curious and tried ctrl + alt F2 but I should have asked how do I get back to gnome aside from rebooting like I just had to. Doh!!
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> smo: Sorry I don't have any ideas for you.
[08:00] <Squee-D> garry c-a-F7
[08:00] <intelikey> tonyyarusso if i knew the exact cause, i'd tell ya how to fix it....   so no i don't.
[08:01] <garry> Squee-D thanks. :)
[08:01] <Squee-D> startx is not the same as /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, A shortcut to what?  You succeeded eventually?
[08:01] <Squee-D> so perhaps something in the init.d script will help?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> ara: loos like the libjvm.so etc is in sun java
[08:01] <Squee-D> tonyyarusso yes i did, but thats as far as my memory takes me, and it may not apply to your problem at all.
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D, Okay.
[08:02] <steven_> can anyone tell me why k3b wont seem to let me add mp3's to be burned? or .wma for that matter
[08:02] <Squee-D> tonyyarusso i think im more of a confusion to you than a help
[08:02] <loginking> i have been searching everywhere on how to load xcompmgr i cant find it
[08:02] <Aviatrixie> I like Automatix... it fixed my Java ;)
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Squee-D or intelikey: Do you know what types of things I might be looking for in something like the init.d script?
[08:03] <loginking> i followed the how to step by step i searched google typed in the commands i saw and nothing
[08:03] <steven_> anyway i can test that my cd burner functions properly without wasting a cd?
[08:03] <DotheGuru> what about startx?
[08:03] <DotheGuru> try that?
[08:03] <intelikey> steven_ burning to cdda ?    you may not be able to decode them.   have w32codecs installed ?
[08:03] <loginking> whats the command to initiate xcompmgr?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> ara: I suggest you try downloading and installing the "static" version of opera instead - I don't know why it is segfaulting but it's possible the ststic version would work for you
[08:03] <steven_> intelikey, yea i do, i want to do some kind of a test burn without using a cd?
[08:03] <Corrupter> this might be a wierd question, but does anyone know of a CD cover art creator for Linux besides just doing the whole thing in gimp?
[08:03] <leather_n_luv> steven_: cdrw
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Yes, DotheGuru.  That works.
[08:04] <phreak97> now that i have the nvidia manager installed, how do i use it?
[08:04] <intelikey> xcdroast has the 'dummy' function steven_  i don't know about k3b  but i think i saw a test function there too.
[08:04] <smo> Corrupter, you could do worse than to peek at glabels. That's likely the first place I'd try if I wasn't doing anything too involved
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Is there a log to view any errors that may have occurred during gdm start?
[08:05] <steven_> intelikey, i just tried and it told me to insert a cd
[08:05] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: they'll be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:05] <steven_> leather_n_luv, cdrw?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Or a way to find out through some other means what's grabbing the keypresses?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Thanks crimsun.
[08:05] <intelikey> steven_ it has to have a blank cd but wont do any actual write command.
[08:05] <crimsun> I suspect you have the radeon<->gdm race condition
[08:05] <leather_n_luv> steven_: yeah, that way if you mess up, just erase and start again...
[08:05] <Aviatrixie> Corrupter... Nero always worked for making CD lables for me... hope this helps
[08:05] <garry> Nvidia manager should be under Applications/system Tools.
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, How would I know / is there a fix?
[08:06] <steven_> intelikey, any program for linux that can write Mp3's to an AUDIO cd for use in standard players? i have all the codecs
[08:06] <Madpilot> Corrupter: gLabels
[08:06] <phreak97> garry, thanks
[08:06] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: you can try moving gdm to a later start # in /etc/rc2.d/
[08:06] <coz> hello is the command for closeing a cd trtay "eject t" ?
[08:06] <Corrupter> aviatrixie: i'd rather not boot up in Windows for anything, let alone something as small as cover art
[08:06] <garry> phreak97 welcome
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Okay.
[08:06] <thoreauputic> coz: yes, eject -t
[08:07] <DotheGuru> wow
[08:07] <intelikey> audacity i think steven_  and probably  vlc  also
[08:07] <coz> eject -t or just eject t
[08:07] <Madpilot> Corrupter: gLabel has templates for CD/DVD covers
[08:07] <steven_> intelikey, wont k3b or something do that
[08:07] <coz> ok thanks
[08:07] <intelikey> that is they can convert them and then you can burn them with any burning app
[08:08] <Aviatrixie> Corrupter, I haven't booted windows for months... I've totally migrated.  ;)
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Is this race condition common?
[08:08] <nik__> hello
[08:08] <intelikey> steven_ idk.   i play with cd burning very little.   and  gui  even less.
[08:08] <nik__> hello
[08:08] <GnarlyBob> I'm glad to be back on linux after having to suffer with windows for 2 months
[08:08] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: I have no idea
[08:08] <nik__> I am also trying to completely switch to linux
[08:08] <nik__> its hard though
[08:08] <DotheGuru> in what way?
[08:08] <nik__> some things are so painful
[08:08] <GTroy> nik_: not that hard
[08:09] <nik__> because I dont know how to do them
[08:09] <DotheGuru> like?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> nik__: it gets easier :)
[08:09] <nik__> for example
[08:09] <GTroy> nik_: you can ask here
[08:09] <bread> hi there
[08:09] <owner989> uname -r
[08:09] <owner989> 2.6.14-ck1
[08:09] <nik__> how do you upgrade totem
[08:09] <smo> That reminds me; for anyone familiar with ubuntu on ppc, would you consider a g4 400 fast enough to run a javascript application in firefox comfortably?
[08:09] <nik__> i cant play ANYTHING
[08:09] <bread> every so often, my ubuntu 5.10 (using gnome) Xorg will crash
[08:09] <thoreauputic> nik__: have you read the RestrictedFormats wiki ?
[08:10] <nik__> what is that?
[08:10] <GTroy> nik_: have you tried cedega?
[08:10] <bread> and i can only use the computer by sshing in and restarting gdm/killing Xorg or rebooting the puter
[08:10] <nik__> whats that?
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Is it the sort of thing that would be considered a bug, and might be being worked on for Dapper or Dapper+1, or just my own stupid fault for messing something up?  (It was fine two days ago.)
[08:10] <steven_> anyway to make k3b support mp3 to audio cd burn?
[08:10] <GTroy> allows you to play windoze games
[08:10] <thoreauputic> !tell nik__ about restricted
[08:10] <bread> there are no errors in ~/.xsession-errors, none in Xorg.0.log and none in gdm.log :(
[08:10] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[08:10] <ubotu> well, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[08:10] <Aviatrixie> nik... the best way to migrate is to either pull your XP HD or to slick your XP drive and install linux.
[08:10] <bread> anyone have any idea what it happens?
[08:10] <owner989> it does steven
[08:10] <owner989> alreayd
[08:10] <owner989> already
[08:10] <intelikey> oops sorry thoreauputic i lag
[08:10] <bread> when i run top, Xorg which has supposedly crashed is using 99% of the cpu
[08:10] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:10] <phreak97> garry, i've installed the drivers for tv out support, do you know how i can set up dual monitor support?
[08:10] <alekz> hi, how can i extract some cd songs and save them like mp3 ?
[08:10] <loginking> my laptop have a built in media reader is there any drivers or packages i need t odownload for it to work?
[08:10] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: if it worked before, then it'll be problematic to blame solely on X.Org
[08:11] <owner989> mp3 ripper alekz
[08:11] <loginking> 6 in 1 media reader
[08:11] <Aviatrixie> I'm totally linux now. I'm making it work.
[08:11] <bread> hello?
[08:11] <DotheGuru> sound juicer
[08:11] <smo> loginking, have you tried it?  mine 'Just Works'
[08:11] <alekz> owner989, can u recommend me one pls
[08:11] <loginking> yeah i just put in the sd card and nothing happened
[08:11] <garry> phreaks97 in the readme that comes with the linux drivers from www.nvidia.com there is info on how to set up duel monitors.
[08:11] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: I'd binary-search backward through any config/package/hardware changes you've made
[08:11] <Aviatrixie> Juicer is a ripper. xmms works better for streaming
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Right.  Tried looking before; came up with nothing.
[08:11] <phreak97> thanks
[08:11] <owner989> there is KAudioCreator
[08:12] <garry> welcome
[08:12] <alekz> thanks owner989 :)
[08:12] <Aviatrixie> Get Automatix.
[08:12] <bread> can anyone actually even see what im writing? :(
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[08:12] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[08:12] <revmoo> i can
[08:12] <Aviatrixie> And study the scrirt.
[08:12] <loginking> i have been trying to figure out how make my wifi button light up and now i just found another task and thats to get my media reader t owork..any info out there relating to the two mentioned issues
[08:12] <|Lestat|> can anyone help me with a dpkg / apt-get problem? :)
[08:13] <leather_n_luv> bread: hey, wasssup?
[08:13] <DotheGuru> what is it?
[08:13] <owner989> ubotu, automatix is better than before i believe
[08:13] <ubotu> ...but automatix is already something else...
[08:13] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: just ask
[08:13] <owner989> it no longer touches root or uses --force
[08:13] <bread> nobody can help? :(
[08:13] <Squee-D> hehe
[08:13] <revmoo> bread: how does it crash, does it freeze with everything on the screen, does it reboot, does it just blink out, what
[08:14] <leather_n_luv> ubotu, bill_gates looks like a businessman...
[08:14] <Aviatrixie> Be careful with Automatix... it can trash your install.
[08:14] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, leather_n_luv
[08:14] <Madpilot> owner989: ubotu is a bot :P
[08:14] <Aviatrixie> but it is sweet
[08:14] <owner989> ya i know lol
[08:14] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:14] <owner989> !obotu
[08:14] <ubotu> owner989: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:14] <intelikey> |Lestat| what issue/error ?
[08:14] <bread> revmoo, it just freezes with everything on the screen. i can ssh in and restart gdm/x, or reboot the computer but CTRLALTBKSPCE and CTRLALTF1 dont work
[08:14] <leather_n_luv> bread: what's your deal with x again?
[08:14] <|Lestat|> thoreu: i thought i did ;)
[08:14] <thoreauputic> owner989: ubotu is pedantic about spelling ;)
[08:15] <ara> how do i make a .bin file work?
[08:15] <bread> and when i do a "top" Xorg is running at 99% cpu
[08:15] <steven_> does audio file conversion even work
[08:15] <steven_> in k3b?
[08:15] <|Lestat|> uhm the issue is i cannot install any programs with apt-get or with adept
[08:15] <steven_> it tells me every single kind of file isn't supporte
[08:15] <revmoo> bread: what kinda video are u using, accelerated 3d, vesa, what
[08:15] <bread> there are no errors in Xorg.0.log, gdm.log or ~/.xsession-errors
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> Well, I certainly have more information than yesterday.  That's always nice.
[08:15] <|Lestat|> i was doing an install with adept when my machine died and it hasent worked since then
[08:15] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: what specifically do you need to know about dpkg/apt ?
[08:15] <bread> revmoo, im pretty sure its just standard "nv" driver
[08:15] <owner989> do apt-get update
[08:15] <owner989> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:15] <|Lestat|> how i can reinstall it ;)
[08:15] <|Lestat|> i did apt-get update
[08:15] <|Lestat|> and apt-setup
[08:16] <bread> yep revmoo just standard nv driver
[08:16] <bread> i tried installing the nvidia-kernel module but when i "modprobe nvidia" it says no such device
[08:16] <revmoo> you shouldnt have to
[08:16] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: so far we don't have much info to go on...
[08:16] <bread> revmoo, any ideas?
[08:16] <revmoo> if i recall, nv is the generic nvidia right? so you might want to try the real deal which means you need to get that working
[08:16] <GTroy> bread: have you tried modprobe nvidia -l?
[08:17] <smo> |Lestat|, does it throw any specific errors you can share?  That'd help a little more than "it's broke".  We need to atleast know where it hurts :)
[08:17] <|Lestat|> when i do apt-get dist-upgrade i get an error reading package lists
[08:17] <owner989> sounds like your sources.list is messed up lestat
[08:17] <GTroy> don't know, but that's how to find bad ndiswrapper installs for me
[08:17] <phreak97> ok, anyone willing to help me out with setting up a second monitor?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> !sources
[08:17] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:17] <bread> GTroy, that just lists the modules path?
[08:17] <steven_> can somone help me with k3b?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: ^^^
[08:17] <linuzo> Is there a way to install mplayer on ubuntu with apt-get?
[08:17] <revmoo> ya
[08:18] <loginking> wow i really want to make a full switch but the hassle of wpa & now my media reader not being recognised is making it tough
[08:18] <loginking> dammit
[08:18] <|Lestat|> well i deleted my /var/chache/something/source and it seemd to work but then started spitting ut nasty stuff at me, so i copied the old one back, and it went back to the same problem, which is when i try to use apt i get an error when it is reading the packages
[08:18] <revmoo> apt-get install mplayer should work...
[08:18] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[08:18] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[08:18] <nik__> ok I installed the codecs at the restriced codecs page and it still wont play a simple WMV
[08:18] <|Lestat|> i think my sources.list is good, it'll grab them all, it's just when it is processing them
[08:18] <intelikey> linuzo you might consider vlc  also.
[08:18] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: erm - you deleted something crucial, sounds like
[08:19] <linuzo> says couldn't find poackage mplayer
[08:19] <nik__> can someone walk me through this or what?
[08:19] <linuzo> vlc?
[08:19] <thoreauputic> linuzo: read what ubotu said
[08:19] <bread> i get this in dmesg when i modprobe nvidia
[08:19] <|Lestat|> i just moved that one file, then put it back later.. but maybe i did
[08:19] <phreak97> wheres the X config file?
[08:19] <thoreauputic> linuzo: you need to specify - like mplayer-586
[08:19] <GnarlyBob> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <nik__> can someone please help me?
[08:20] <|Lestat|> hmm
[08:20] <thoreauputic> linuzo: and you need the multiverse repository
[08:20] <Madpilot> nik__: are you using Totem?
[08:20] <phreak97> thanks
[08:20] <nik__> yes
[08:20] <linuzo> Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[08:20] <linuzo> oh
[08:20] <|Lestat|> is there anyway for apt or dpkg to rebuild it's database?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> !tell linuzo about repos
[08:20] <Madpilot> nik__: try totem-xine, I (and many others!) find it works far better
[08:20] <nik__> how do I do that
[08:20] <nik__> I am completely noob
[08:21] <Madpilot> nik__: in Synaptic, search for totem-xine, select it and hit Apply
[08:21] <thoreauputic> nik__: look for totem-xine in the synaptic package manager and install it
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Say, some of the people at the top in Ubuntu/Canonical have some $$; what are the odds they could convince groups like linuxant with it to allow drivers to be included for free?  (Pondering while reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82608)
[08:21] <steven_> how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly
[08:21] <Madpilot> !tell nik__ about synaptic
[08:21] <smo> |Lestat|: Try "apt-cache gencaches"
[08:21] <|Lestat|> ok
[08:21] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: need to be "free as in freedom" as well
[08:21] <smo> (with root/sudo as appropriate)
[08:22] <nik__> ok thanks I will try that right now
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic, Right.  Maybe if they were convinced to collaborate rather than work separately or something?
[08:22] <|Lestat|> E: unable to parse packae file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[08:22] <steven_> how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly
[08:22] <|Lestat|> is what i get whn i do an apt-cache gencaches
[08:23] <Wilf> any reason why ubuntu showed my windows network right straight after it installed, but now shows nothing?
[08:23] <Linfan> i just removed rhythmbox and gnome desktop was removed what functionality will i loose
[08:23] <smo> |Lestat|: do either of /var/lib/dpkg/status or status-old exist?
[08:23] <Linfan> my media card reader is not woring but im not sure if it worked before
[08:23] <|Lestat|> yes both do
[08:23] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[08:24] <linuzo> thoreauputic, I love the way they setup ubuntu.. easy to use..
[08:24] <steven_> how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly
[08:24] <|Lestat|> oh thats doing something
[08:24] <thoreauputic> linuzo: I like it too :)
[08:24] <Madpilot> steve__: put a CD in it?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: that command really reconfigures *everything*
[08:25] <|Lestat|> awsome
[08:25] <steven_> Madpilot, i mean like for writing, a test?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: somewhat drastic
[08:25] <nik__> hey madpilot so how do I get to that new totem now that I have installed it
[08:25] <|Lestat|> think it'll work?
[08:25] <quacorezx> anyone willing to offer a little help to a noob?
[08:25] <|Lestat|> hey i got no cdrom on this computer, it was an uphill battle getting this on here
[08:25] <smo> Interesting dpkg-foo .. I would have been tempted to simply replace status with status-old.  Always nice to learn a new trick
[08:25] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: note that it will also ask you to set a root password, IIRC
[08:25] <|Lestat|> so somewhat drastic not involving taking this thing apart and switching hds around isnt too bad
[08:26] <Wstylist> hey anyone tried Puppylinux?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: it's worth a try at least
[08:26] <Madpilot> nik__: it'll replace your existing Totem seamlessly
[08:26] <|Lestat|> i tried status with status-old, i would get errors like dpkg isnt installed and lib6c isnt installed and etc
[08:26] <quacorezx> like...how do you end X server (CTRL+ALT+BACK only causes it to reboot, after all...)
[08:26] <thoreauputic> Wstylist: yes - quite nice
[08:26] <|Lestat|> ctrl-alt-f1
[08:26] <Wstylist> it looks good
[08:26] <thoreauputic> |Lestat|: woah - sounds terminal
[08:26] <Wstylist> easy to use?
[08:27] <quacorezx> Lestat: that switches to console mode, it doesn't close X server
[08:27] <|Lestat|> i wanna get this bluetooth server out here too hehe
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Wstylist: pretty basic, but responsive
[08:27] <|Lestat|> oh ok
[08:27] <Sepheebear> quacorezx: sudo killall Xorg
[08:27] <nik__> Can someone tell me how to get to totem-xine after I have installed it?
[08:27] <|Lestat|> i use it to logon as root and kill all x servers ;)
[08:27] <albacker> guys im compiling kernel.. how do i know which chipset should i choose ?????
[08:27] <quacorezx> Sepheebear: I tried that but Xorg restarted all on its own
[08:27] <smo> quacorezx: you can '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' once you're on a terminal, however (or kdm, if kde)
[08:28] <quacorezx> smo: couldn't I just killall gdm then?
[08:28] <nik__> Can someone tell me how to get to totem-xine after I have installed it?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> albacker:  uname -m  - but why are you compiling a kernel?
[08:28] <Sepheebear> quacorezx yeah it doesnt wanna die
[08:28] <smo> quacorezx: I'm not sure.  gdm seems to run as more than one process, and I'm never sure which is responsible for respawning what.  Better to stop it graviously
[08:28] <albacker> thoreauputic, because ive had some problems, and i dont have kpkg installed
[08:28] <Madpilot> nik__: you don't have to do anything special, your existing Totem just becomes totem-xine, more or less
[08:28] <Sepheebear> stop gdm then kill Xorg
[08:28] <nik__> ic
[08:28] <quacorezx> hmm, alright, sounds easy enough
[08:29] <Linfan> is there any digitsal media reader drivers out there? can somebody please help
[08:29] <linuzo> !easysource
[08:29] <ubotu> [easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:29] <izm81> the label for my usb external drive seems to be corrupt and preventing it from being mounted.  any ideas?  is this a HAL issue?
[08:29] <quacorezx> after all that, anyone know how I can find my way back to gnome?
[08:29] <albacker> i686
[08:29] <albacker> root@madgeek:/boot # uname -a
[08:29] <albacker> Linux madgeek 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <quacorezx> without a reboot, though that works too
[08:29] <thoreauputic> nik__: totem-xine is just totem with a different engine :)
[08:29] <alekz> hi i have a problem trying to remove a package, who can help me ?
[08:29] <smo> quacorezx: '/etc/init.d/gdm start' will fire it straight back up again
[08:29] <quacorezx> ahh, wonderful
[08:29] <quacorezx> thanks smo
[08:29] <nik__> HOLY SHIT IT ALL WORKS
[08:29] <Madpilot> nik__: start Totem, and go Help --> About - if it says something about xine-lib, then you're running totem-xine
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> alekz: Describe the problem.
[08:29] <nik__> crap sorry about all caps, I just got excited
[08:30] <nik__> windows can go to hell! Thats one less temptation
[08:30] <linuzo> I updated to community reposistories Universe and Multiverse and I can't apt-get install mplayer or mplayer-586
[08:30] <alekz> tonyyarusso, take a look here is the output: http://pastebin.com/482607
[08:30] <thoreauputic> nik__: heheh
[08:30] <Linfan> nik lucky you
[08:30] <nik__> ty everyone
[08:30] <Linfan> i been batlting with ubuntu all day trying to have everything functional
[08:30] <nik__> well I dont have everything functional but at least now I can listen to music and watch movies
[08:31] <nik__> good stuff
[08:31] <linuzo> maybe I should just compile from scratch..
[08:31] <DotheGuru> ambitious
[08:31] <nik__> Thanks again everyone, especially you madpilot.
[08:31] <Linfan> ohh i have that already im trying to have my media reader functional
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> alekz: Interesting.  What does sudo apt-get -f install tell you it's going to do?  (Check it before continuing!  I never hosed a system that way....no, never)
[08:32] <Madpilot> nik__: no problem - have fun!
[08:32] <alekz> tonyyarusso, apt-get install or remove ?
[08:32] <smo> Linfan, can you plug a card in, then post 'dmesg | tail' to pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )?  I'd hope there to be some garb about hotplug, usb-storage, usb.c and such .. it should all just happen
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> alekz: install.  It forces correction of dependencies and other magic like that.
[08:33] <alekz> tonyyarusso, let me try
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> I had a thought re: my console switching thing.  I should try killing my X session and starting it with /etc/init.d/gdm start instead of startx and see what that does.
[08:34] <Linfan> smo i have a sd card in already but no led lights nothing ill try what you just told me
[08:34] <ITSa341> Hey, has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu on an xBox?
[08:34] <Wstylist> is there a service manager similiar to services.msc for linux?
[08:34] <smo> Linfan, it'll work best straight after a card is inserted, so that they're the most recent items in dmesg
[08:34] <redguy|work> ITSa341: you serched in google right?
[08:34] <DotheGuru> how do open ports work on ubuntu? I'm having NAT problems.
[08:34] <ITSa341> redguy, nope just asking, the thought just poped into my head
[08:35] <|Lestat|> anyone here running a wireless DWL-G132 dongle? :)
[08:35] <quacorezx> argh...help please for installing nvidia drivers >_<...
[08:35] <ITSa341> I own SystemBytes, but we have always installed Gentoox
[08:35] <phreq> DotheGuru: I'm not sure, but I'm betting it's in iptables somewhere.
[08:35] <quacorezx> installation says I don't have proper libc libraries (specifically for cc)...but libc6 is installed
[08:35] <DotheGuru> right
[08:35] <quacorezx> do I have to reinstall it or something?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:36] <quacorezx> lol, thanks
[08:36] <Linfan> alright you want mt put in a card then you want me to type "dmesg-tail on the pastebin?
[08:36] <quacorezx> *feels stupid*
[08:37] <thoreauputic> quacorezx: no need to feel stupid - read those links - youweren't to know
[08:37] <smo> Linfan, "dmesg | tail" .. the last part will just give the last 10 lines, and all we need to see is what happened after the card was put in
[08:37] <Squee-D> !start a user war
[08:37] <ubotu> hd420 is the coolest ubuntu user in the world.
[08:37] <hd420> wtf?
[08:37] <Squee-D> aww how nice :)
[08:37] <nadia007> good evening...  wondering how to start a program when ubuntu loads.  I know how to do it with session in the GUI, but I'm working on a server with terminal only!
[08:37] <Wilf> ubotu, News just is, Wilf is better and cooler than hd420.
[08:37] <thoreauputic> no prizes fro guessing who wrote that factoid...
[08:37] <Squee-D> Count yourself lucky, his other response is not so kind
[08:38] <Wilf> ubotu, Wilf > hd420
[08:38] <ubotu> Wilf: No idea
[08:38] <Wilf> >:(
[08:38] <slew> hi, what file does ubuntu read when it starts up? it tells me a sensor failed in start up, and id like to remove it
[08:38] <Wilf> ubotu, Wilf is better and cooler than hd420
[08:38] <ubotu> okay, Wilf
[08:38] <smo> nadia007, you may like to read /etc/init.d/README, take a look thru some of the scripts in that dir for inspiration, and google as a backup
[08:38] <Wilf> !Wilf
[08:38] <ubotu> I heard wilf is better and cooler than hd420
[08:38] <Wilf> :D
[08:38] <Linfan> dmesg tail you want me to type it in a terminal or pastebin?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[08:38] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg without being banned.
[08:38] <ITSa341> lol
[08:38] <Squee-D> :)
[08:38] <thoreauputic> !forget Wilf
[08:38] <ubotu> i forgot wilf, thoreauputic
[08:38] <smo> Linfan, the command into a terminal, then paste the results into pastebin for all to see
[08:38] <Wilf> -_-;;
[08:38] <nadia007> smo, thanks.
[08:38] <thoreauputic> sorry ;)
[08:39] <siswa02> hai
[08:39] <ubuntu> hey guys
[08:39] <DotheGuru> something all new ubuntu users should read http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html
[08:39] <siswa02> any indonesian people there???
[08:39] <ITSa341> <-- is collecting all those links in my favorites   hehe
[08:39] <kalin> no
[08:39] <linuzo> thoreauputic, where do I got o change what program starts auto.. like a put a DVD in a totem autostarts but I don't want totem I want vlc. so how do I change it.
[08:40] <kalin> i'm peruvian
[08:40] <kalin> XD
[08:40] <Wstylist> siswa02 yes sir i can boogie
[08:40] <thoreauputic> linuzo: hmm - system-prefs-removable media I think
[08:40] <kalin> i wanna play Gunbound over linux!
[08:41] <redguy|work> kalin: write to it's authors :-)
[08:41] <phreq> Cedega
[08:41] <Linfan> ok i posted the results under linuxfanatic01
[08:41] <linuzo> k thanks thoreauputic
[08:41] <kalin> i did
[08:41] <phreq> kalin: Cedega will run almost any Windows game on Linux.
[08:41] <thoreauputic> linuzo: no worries :)
[08:41] <kalin> but they never replied me!
[08:41] <ubuntu> i just booted in livecd how would i be able to mount my harddrive?
[08:41] <phreq> What type is it?
[08:41] <kalin> uhmmm cedega???
[08:42] <thoreauputic> ubuntu:  mount /dev/hda /media
[08:42] <|Lestat|> anyone here running a wireless dongle DWL-G132
[08:42] <ubuntu> thoreauputic, i'll try that
[08:42] <slew> hi, what file does ubuntu read when it starts up? it tells me a sensor failed in start up, and id like to remove it
[08:42] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: sorry  mount /dev/hda1  or whatever the partition is
[08:42] <siswa02> jalo
[08:42] <phreq> It's a program which gives Windows APIs and such to games that need them.
[08:42] <siswa02> hLO
[08:42] <ubuntu> thoreauputic, ok
[08:42] <siswa02> HALO
[08:42] <Linfan> from the pastebin we can download the files?
[08:42] <phreq> Built specifically for gaming, unlike wine.
[08:42] <kalin> i havve ubuntu
[08:42] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: then open /media and you should see your hard drive stuff
[08:43] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: you might need sudo before that command
[08:43] <phreq> Google it... I didn't hear about it 'till a few days ago myself.
[08:43] <phreq> Or I would tell you more. :P
[08:43] <thoreauputic> ie the mount command
[08:44] <siswa02> hai
[08:44] <kalin> mmmmm?
[08:44] <kalin> r u talking to me???
[08:44] <smo> Linfan, that has me stumped .. it doesn't mention any activity when you add the card.  do either of lspci or lsusb identify mention anything resembling the device?
[08:45] <siswa02> hai guys
[08:45] <Linfan>  identification at all when i insert the card
[08:45] <Linfan> no
[08:46] <Linfan> it reads my ipod my treo 650 my cds everything but the card reader is not being recognised and thats what i use the most
[08:46] <|Lestat|> anyone here running wireless usb dongles that would help me get mine working? :)
[08:46] <Linfan> is even reading my apple mighty mouse is weird
[08:47] <Linfan> probably something i did wrong i bet-i mean everything else is workinf
[08:47] <martii> |Lestat|: whats the problem?
[08:47] <martii> |Lestat|: recognised by usb subsystem?
[08:48] <intelikey> hmmm cant grub-install /dev/hda   E: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.     ?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> smo, I may have something of interest for you.
[08:49] <falaris> hihi~~
[08:49] <intelikey> anyone know the cause of this error ?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> smo, /var/log/gdm/:0.log has the following in it:
[08:49] <|Lestat|> martii: i cant seem to get my DWL-G132 working
[08:50] <smo> intelikey, is hda mentioned in /boot/grub/device.map  ?
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> smo, (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> smo, After some other stuff, but I didn't want to paste it all.
[08:50] <martii> |Lestat|: tell me is system found this dongle
[08:50] <vnpaven> hello everybody!!!
[08:51] <intelikey> smo  no that's it.  it used long listings    i.e.  (hd0)   /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[08:51] <|Lestat|> well i had it in windows before and i located the dongle. didnt get it working cazu windows in fucked. i used ndiswrapper to try getting it to work
[08:51] <intelikey> ty smo
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> smo, So it looks like we have the same error after all.
[08:52] <vnpaven> how to manage (monitor, report if have errors, ...) OS daemon processes?
[08:52] <smo> tonyyarusso, yup I see the same (and some stuff about not finding "xfree86" keycodes include, which looks highly relevant)
[08:53] <freelove> what command cleans the apt cache?
[08:53] <Toma-> apt-get clean
[08:54] <dbzdeath> what's a good curses based ftp client? that can use PASV
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> smo: Mine's "No symbols found", looking in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/ and its subfolders.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> dbzdeath: I don't know about curses, but lftp is a good cli client
[08:56] <revmoo> gdm is a login manager
[08:56] <thoreauputic> dbzdeath: $ apt-cache search ncurses | grep ftp
[08:56] <thoreauputic> ncftp - A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client
[08:56] <rjordan> yay for ndiswrapper
[08:57] <DotheGuru> what is a good port range to use for bittorrent?
[08:57] <ITSa341> automatix looks pretty interesting
[08:58] <DotheGuru> 6881-6889 is not working for me
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[08:58] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[08:58] <falaris> hello~
[08:58] <ITSa341> ok  point made
[08:58] <smo> tonyyarusso, not sure how much it helps you, but I get the same log messages (and problems) from startx
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> smo, Odd.  startx was fine for me.
[09:00] <thoreauputic> DotheGuru: it varies with who knows what - patience is involved
[09:00] <DotheGuru> ill work at it then
[09:00] <QQ_ghost> i know alot about lilo, but almost no one ehre is going to have it installed
[09:01] <Madpilot> DotheGuru: for bittorrent, there's a standard set of ports - google should tell you more
[09:01] <DotheGuru> how about azureus?
[09:01] <Madpilot> DotheGuru: and if you're trying to open ports for BT, firestarter has BT as one of it's standard settings
[09:02] <Sepheebear> DotheGuru: azureus is fine but check your router to make sure the right BT ports are open
[09:02] <DotheGuru> i found that, but I had assumed that bittorrent was refferring to all clients
[09:03] <DotheGuru> So are there any ports that work a majority of the time?
[09:03] <sampan> dotheguru  you just need to make sure that firestarter and your bt client have the same ports allowed ("for everyone") -- and make sure you set firestarter to write policy changes immediately (preferences somewhere)
[09:03] <thoreauputic> doesn't bittorrent use a standard set of ports/
[09:03] <Sepheebear> im not sure why you would need firestarter to open a port thats not even blocked in the first place
[09:03] <thoreauputic> Sepheebear: firestarter closes everything by default
[09:04] <DotheGuru> thats probably it
[09:04] <thoreauputic> you have to open stuff selectively
[09:04] <Sepheebear> but its not installed by default
[09:04] <ITSa341> bbiab
[09:04] <DotheGuru> thanks sampan
[09:04] <sampan> it closes all INCOMING automatically.  outgoing is all allowed.
[09:04] <dejnoi> any body home?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> Sepheebear: correct
[09:04] <sampan> dotheguru  yw :)
[09:04] <thoreauputic> sampan: also correct
[09:04] <dejnoi> hi
[09:04] <dejnoi> all
[09:05] <sampan> or i should say: "by default".  it'll do anything you tell it to do "automatically" i suppose ;/
[09:05] <dejnoi> i'm a new ubantu usere
[09:05] <Sepheebear> my mistake, joined in too late in the thread
[09:05] <Linfan> how to bring back the default bootskin for ubuntu instead of the text being displayed
[09:06] <intelikey> bootsplash
[09:07] <thoreauputic> Linfan:  sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:08] <Sepheebear> oh i thought it was dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:08] <thoreauputic> Sepheebear: yes, there are at least two ways
[09:08] <quacorezx> hey...could someone help me
[09:08] <thoreauputic> Sepheebear: the way I gave I saw on the users list - seems easier
[09:08] <quacorezx> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers using the .run file from the nvidia website
[09:09] <quacorezx> but it says that since my kernel was compiled in gcc 3.4
[09:09] <quacorezx> and I'm currently using 4.0, it may have errors...
[09:09] <phreak97> is there a rename command in the console?
[09:09] <quacorezx> so how do I change my variable to put 3.4 as the main?
[09:09] <thoreauputic> quacorezx: use the RestrictedFormats wiki method
[09:09] <Sepheebear> sounds cool i've got to try that out
[09:09] <phreak97> cos its not in my linux book thing
[09:09] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[09:09] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:09] <quacorezx> using synaptic?
[09:09] <quacorezx> the version there is older than nvidia's though
[09:10] <quacorezx> I'm eager to install the 8x.xx series drivers
[09:10] <Sepheebear> quacorezx: that version is also tested with ubuntu, that helps
[09:10] <quacorezx> so it works, yes...
[09:10] <Sepheebear> much less headaches than with the raw nvidia version
[09:10] <quacorezx> wait..hmmm...
[09:11] <Sepheebear> i use it
[09:11] <quacorezx> maybe I'll just configure the driver myself, instead of using nvidia's script
[09:11] <quacorezx> think that would work better instead of worrying about gcc 3.4/4.0 inconsistency?
[09:11] <quacorezx> or should I just try and change...I don't even know what variable, to use gcc 3.4 temporarily
[09:11] <Sepheebear> quacorezx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:11] <owner989> does firestarter show as a process
[09:12] <coNP> How can I automagically open uris with the 'irc' scheme? Both Firefox and Galeon say that this protocol isn't associated with any programs. How could I do that?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> owner989: only if the GUI is running I think
[09:12] <thoreauputic> owner989: but you only need the GUI for monitoring or configuration
[09:12] <owner989> whats the name of the gui, so i can run it from a command line
[09:12] <sampan> owner989  unlike windows firewalls, a linux firewall doesn't have to keep running.  it writes an iptables (rules for routing packets) and then exits, unless you keep it up to watch the little indicator flash every time a packet is dropped
[09:12] <thoreauputic> the rest is just iptables
[09:13] <Sepheebear> does firestarter configure iptables or is it something else?
[09:13] <intelikey> Q: which boot loader do i have installed?     A: dd if=/dev/hda count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -b6-10 | grep -m1 -aie [a-z] 
[09:13] <Sepheebear> oh
[09:13] <thoreauputic> yes it writes an iptables script
[09:13] <quacorezx> Sepheebear, the wiki only gives me how to install the binary from the repository though...
[09:13] <sampan> it's just a frontend for iptables
[09:13] <intelikey> owner989 startx
[09:13] <quacorezx> how about installing it locally?
[09:13] <youngcoder> is dalnet down?
[09:14] <youngcoder> anyone use dalnet?
[09:14] <Sepheebear> quacorezx yes that's the supported method, lots of intelligent ppl worked hard to make that method work more or less
[09:14] <thoreauputic> owner989: you can run the GUI with gksudo firestarter
[09:14] <quacorezx> Sepheebear, well, yes, it does work, I know, but only up to 76.67 works doesn't it?
[09:14] <quacorezx> or is availible, I mean
[09:14] <Linfan> thoreauputic, i tried what you advised but it says that there is only 1 program wich provides usplash-artwork.so (usr/lib/usplash-default.so) nothing to configure
[09:14] <youngcoder> xester, hey
[09:15] <Linfan> and i dont know of any other bootloader for ubuntu
[09:15] <Linfan> i dont want t osee text
[09:15] <Linfan> lol
[09:15] <xester> hi youngcoder :-)
[09:15] <sampan> text is beautiful!
[09:15] <DotheGuru> I'm still getting NAT erros
[09:15] <|Lestat|> ndiswrapper seems to have y drivers installed, but when i do an ifconfig i see nothing except "lo". am i missing a crutial step?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Linfan: hmm - OK try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)  then
[09:15] <youngcoder> i cant get a connection to Dalnet thi is soooo weird
[09:15] <owner989> i installed the 2.6.14 kernel
[09:15] <Sepheebear> quacorezx im using the latest drivers from dapper and there's not much difference
[09:16] <quacorezx> from...dapper o.o?
[09:16] <Linfan> ok i see it said searching for splash image...none found? where is it supposed to be?
[09:16] <Linfan> on what direcotry
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Linfan: ignore that
[09:17] <youngcoder> anyone here us privoxy?
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Linfan: it says that but when you reboot it should be there
[09:17] <Linfan> cool thanks-one day i will master this linux stuff
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Linfan: at least it was for me ;)
[09:17] <nadeem> hello
[09:17] <|Lestat|> like do you have to edit a file like interfaces in /etc/network before it'll see an interface?
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Linfan: this one is a bit arcane :)
[09:18] <Linfan> thoreauputic, do you know where i can find a working dock for ubuntu where everything minimizes to it? so that i can get rid of the bottom panel
[09:18] <Sepheebear> Linfan why not just get rid of the bottom panel?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Linfan: it isn't exactly intuitive that you need tomess with the kernel to get a boot splash ;) re: Dock - I don't quite follow you
[09:19] <pm> Could anyone help me? If I want to remove a package and its config files I type apt-get remove <packagename> --purge, but what command should I use if some packages depend on the package I want to remove, and I want to remove their config filesl as well?
[09:19] <intelikey> Linfan right click on your dock and unlock it then drag it to the top panel and remove the bottom one.
[09:19] <smo> I believe he's looking for OS X's behaviour rather than the window list
[09:19] <PsycoEwok> Hey guys, i'm having some serious issues with getting Ubuntu to even install. Would anyone be willing to help? :|
[09:19] <smo> unless I read the terms wrong ;)
[09:20] <PsycoEwok> My kernel panics while trying to install :|
[09:20] <|Lestat|> argle
[09:20] <aaron> Hello there
[09:20] <Linfan> like a mac dock where i have my commonly used programs and open windows displayed-if i get rid of the bottom panel how would i see the open windows?
[09:20] <intelikey> Linfan right click on your dock and unlock it then drag it to the top panel and remove the bottom one.
[09:20] <Wilf> PsyberOne, mine did the same thing
[09:21] <thoreauputic> Linfan: different metaphors in linux and OS-X
[09:21] <Wilf> turned out to be bad ram.
[09:21] <Sepheebear> Linfan you can add the Window Selector panel applet
[09:21] <intelikey> try it you'll like it.
[09:21] <aaron> I am downloading the ubuntu live CD, and ive never used linux before, but I understand i need ndis for my wifi card, my quesiton is: how do i get ndis on the live cd??
[09:21] <|Lestat|> no one ehre experienced in usb wireless dongles? :)
[09:21] <PsycoEwok> I've already performed the memory test, it ran 3 passes with no problem
[09:22] <Linfan> i have been trying to access xcompmgr....how hard is it to add drop shadows o windows?
[09:22] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: does it panic while installing or while booting up?
[09:22] <Linfan> i did what you told me with the bottom panel
[09:22] <Linfan> thanks
[09:22] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to create PDF form under linux ?
[09:22] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[09:23] <Madeye> HrdwrBoB, How?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Madeye: make a form in Open Office and save it as PDF ?
[09:23] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: While installing
[09:23] <aaron> hello? anyone
[09:23] <deFrysk> yes
[09:23] <Madeye> thoreauputic, as simple as!
[09:23] <aaron>  I am downloading the ubuntu live CD, and ive never used linux before, but I understand i need ndis for my wifi card, my quesiton is: how do i get ndis on the live cd??
[09:23] <deFrysk> asa
[09:23] <smo> I haven't found anything under linux that'll create editable forms (or many people that have used them, for that matter)
[09:23] <intelikey> Linfan that's the only way i can begin to stand gnome is incorperate the stuff in the two pannels into one and remove the other.  :)
[09:23] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: does it panic at the same point all the time?
[09:24] <Sepheebear> if its consistent that should give you clues to where the problem is
[09:24] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: i can't tell really, I've only managed to catch the message once
[09:24] <PsycoEwok> i just watched unpack things and all instead of watching the progress bar
[09:25] <kalin> could anybody tell me how to play gunbound on ubuntu????
[09:25] <PsycoEwok> because it had frozen on me during previous installation attempts
[09:25] <ian_> ei
[09:25] <kalin> boo
[09:25] <kalin> boo
[09:25] <ian_> any one can help me out im new to linux and decided to use unbuntu since icant get suse 0 up and running
[09:26] <PsycoEwok> after it froze on me, i rebooted and it said that there were errors while installing the packages (obviously) and tells me to run dpkg --configure -a
[09:26] <PsycoEwok> so i do that
[09:26] <Sepheebear> so it did install somewhat?
[09:26] <PsycoEwok> and it does its thing, but it too will freeze up at some point
[09:26] <PsycoEwok> yeah most of the packages were installed
[09:26] <ian_> my pc has windows on its primary drive with 3 partitions in ntyfs.,..how do iaccess those files in ubuntu?
[09:26] <PsycoEwok> it fails at like, 90% or so
[09:27] <PsycoEwok> this has happened to me with both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions
[09:27] <aaron> ntfs.
[09:27] <eobanb> !ntfs
[09:27] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[09:27] <PsycoEwok> actually the 64 bit version installed better, because i could actually manage to get a gui and login and all
[09:27] <PsycoEwok> but it too will just freeze up at some point
[09:27] <PsycoEwok> sometimes it's so fast i don't even make it past the login screen
[09:27] <Sepheebear> youre on 64-bit?
[09:27] <ian_> well i wont be writing just to play my audio and video files.
[09:28] <PsycoEwok> i have an AMD64, yes
[09:28] <eobanb> sure, ian_ just go through that tutorial.
[09:28] <Linfan> how do i search my computer for files under ubuntu?
[09:28] <intelikey> Linfan find
[09:28] <Kindred> any ideas on how to make apt-get use less bandwidth? :|
[09:29] <Linfan> on a terminal cool
[09:29] <intelikey> Linfan what you looinig for ?
[09:29] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: id likely redo the whole partition/install
[09:29] <PsycoEwok> seph that's what i've BEEN doing :|
[09:29] <PsycoEwok> every time
[09:29] <intelikey> come on Linfan let me help just a little....
[09:29] <kalin> i have an AMD64 like yours but i dont think i'm working on 64 bits....
[09:29] <intelikey> please please....
[09:29] <Linfan> i just installed ksmoothdock just to see how it will function
[09:29] <PsycoEwok> i've only tried the 32bit version once so far
[09:30] <Linfan> but i dont know where it actually goes for me to start it
[09:30] <Sepheebear> i just dont quite see enough info to go on
[09:30] <PsycoEwok> but i've completely installed the 64bit version at least 5 times now
[09:30] <ian_> im real new to linux i got disappointed with using suse 9.3 and 10...i installed it and reinstalled so many times it always breaks down...i dotn know if it is my hard ware but on windows my system can go up at 100% cpu load for 2 months straight no problems...
[09:30] <PsycoEwok> after completely formatting
[09:30] <ian_> i hope i can learn ubuntu...it looks easier than suse though....
[09:30] <Fushi> Linfan: find / -name whatyouarelookingfor
[09:30] <intelikey> Linfan  find /usr -name "*somth*"
[09:30] <|Lestat|> can someone tell me if i have to edit my /etc/networ/interfaces files to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper?
[09:30] <PsycoEwok> everytime with the 64bit version, it will completely freeze up at some point during use
[09:30] <PsycoEwok> almost always within 10 minutes or less
[09:30] <Sepheebear> try posting your hardware info to the ubuntu-users list, more heads there to work on it
[09:30] <Fushi> Or what intelikey said is even better :P
[09:31] <aaron> How do i get ndis on the live cd???!!!
[09:31] <QQ_ghost> ian_: it is easier that suse...
[09:31] <intelikey> Fushi no need to search the whole box is there ?
[09:31] <ian_> welll im in the turotial now...where do i dpo this in the shell?
[09:31] <kalin> help me please i wanna play gunbound on ubuntu
[09:31] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: one other thing to try is the expert install
[09:31] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: alright, could you explain where that is though?
[09:31] <PsycoEwok> hmm
[09:32] <Fushi> nope :)
[09:32] <Sepheebear> but if youre getting kernel panics im not sure it'll be much help
[09:32] <PsycoEwok> i'm no expert at linux though, unfortunately
[09:32] <PsycoEwok> I can paste the error message for you if you want
[09:32] <PsycoEwok> though it might not tell you much
[09:32] <Toma-> Linfan: for a better + faster search result in future, use "sudo updatedb -a", then run "locate ksmoothdock"
[09:32] <QQ_ghost> ian_: to mount your ntfs partitions?
[09:32] <Toma-> Linfan: also, "locate ksmoothdock | grep bin"
[09:33] <Linfan> alright i just did this udo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-compat-headers kdelibs4-dev kdebase-dev. how t odelete it
[09:33] <Linfan> i cant find what i was looking for
[09:33] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: as the cd is booting there will be a place that you can type in "expert" to get to the expert install
[09:33] <Toma-> Linfan: same package names, but use "remove" instead of "install" after apt-get
[09:33] <intelikey> Toma- faster to update the database and then read it than check the /usr for the executable ????
[09:33] <PsycoEwok> yes, I know that much, but I meant where is this ubuntu-users list that you were talking about :P
[09:33] <Toma-> intelikey: you know how fast locate is?
[09:34] <Sepheebear> oh
[09:34] <ian_> qq_ghost yes...i tried the command lines.... using the terminal an error went up. error 404 not found....first it tried conencting then that error showed up
[09:34] <intelikey> you know how slow updatedb is though
[09:34] <Toma-> yeh. that why i said, it'll make future searches alot faster
[09:34] <Toma-> :)
[09:34] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6302  my error message
[09:34] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[09:35] <|Lestat|> if lsusb detects a device, how can i find out what that devices interface name is?
[09:35] <QQ_ghost> ian_: error 404? for mounting a partition?
[09:35] <Toma-> i like to run updatedb -a while reading my emails
[09:35] <|Lestat|> anyone? :P
[09:36] <Toma-> |Lestat|: id like to know that too :)
[09:36] <ian_> well i followed the tutorial it said i need to connect to some site to get the script first...
[09:36] <Toma-> |Lestat|: what kind of device is it?
[09:36] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: alright, thanks for the help
[09:36] <|Lestat|> it is a usb wireless device
[09:36] <QQ_ghost> |Lestat|: did you try the device manager in X?
[09:36] <Toma-> also |Lestat|, lsusb doesnt mean a driver has been loaded for it yet
[09:36] <|Lestat|> uhm, no i dont think i have tried that
[09:37] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: sorry never seen that error, google it though, might help
[09:37] <cptmorgan> is there a way to reconfigure ssh... i reinstall it but i can get configs :/
[09:37] <PsycoEwok> k
[09:37] <|Lestat|> well, i loaded the driver with ndiswrapper, says the device is there, but i cant get iwconfig ir ifconfig to list the device
[09:38] <Morrowyn> morning
[09:38] <Toma-> try restarting networking
[09:38] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what tutorial was that? on-line or ...
[09:38] <|Lestat|> whats the command for that?
[09:38] <Toma-> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:38] <ian_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions this one
[09:38] <Morrowyn> i installed nvidia-glx but when i startx it totally hangs on me after X says: loading module nvidia
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: hangs?
[09:39] <intelikey> that's one nasty error PsycoEwok,   i can't help but just commenting on it.
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: have you tried tail'ing /var/log/messages?
[09:39] <Linfan> can somebody please tell me how to access xcompmgr
[09:39] <Linfan> so that i can set effects
[09:39] <Morrowyn> yup, screen stays black, i cant cntrl-alt-backspace it
[09:39] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what i do is put it in my fstab with noauto...
[09:39] <Linfan> i have searched everywhere followed how tos but nothing
[09:39] <|Lestat|> i did the /et/init.d/networking restart but still nothing in ifconfig or iwconfig
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: and this is after you've switched to ctl-alt-f7?
[09:40] <|Lestat|> i dont have the device in /etc/networking/interfaces, i dunno if its supposed to be in there
[09:40] <ian_> qq_ghost...sorry but im really new to linux how do i do that?
[09:40] <Morrowyn> linfan, i remember you need to add xcomp entries in xorg.conf set to true ....
[09:40] <Toma-> |Lestat|: have you tried using the networking tool in System > Admin?
[09:40] <Morrowyn> no, i just run it from recovery mode startx
[09:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal
[09:40] <Linfan> i followed the how to until it was time to set the settings-when i copied and pasted it kept saying not valid
[09:41] <Toma-> Linfan: its pretty unsupported at the moment. i wouldnt try it unless you knew exactly what u were doing.
[09:41] <ian_> yep i have one open now
[09:41] <Linfan> ohh ok
[09:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: are you familiar with vi?
[09:41] <Toma-> Linfan: put your xorg.conf up on a pastebin and i might fix it for you ;)
[09:41] <tjb13_> hey can anyone help me get sleep to work on my thinkpad
[09:41] <|Lestat|> I have used the networking tool in kde, system > networking
[09:41] <ian_> no not really
[09:41] <ian_> all i know is simple commands....
[09:41] <Morrowyn> xcomp is pretty slow, i ran it on kde for a while but the transparency stuff awefully slow, shadowing wasnt really stable as well, so i ditched it in the end
[09:41] <Linfan> how to access the xorg file?
[09:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: but you know the basics?
[09:42] <Toma-> Linfan: :/
[09:42] <ian_> the very basics.... not the advance basics
[09:42] <Linfan> hahaha
[09:42] <Morrowyn> linfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:42] <Linfan> i just installed ubuntu tiday sorry
[09:42] <Morrowyn> if you know what you are doing ofc
[09:42] <Toma-> Linfan: you sure you wanna try it? it may leave you with no gui and hence, no IRC + help
[09:42] <Morrowyn> if not, dont touch it
[09:42] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo vi /etc/fstab
[09:42] <Morrowyn> toma, irssi :)
[09:42] <ian_> ok
[09:42] <|Lestat|> in network settings all i see is ppp0
[09:42] <Toma-> irssi sux :O imho.
[09:42] <intelikey> nano   guys   nano
[09:42] <gerald-volt> is there a deb package for cedega?
[09:42] <gerald-volt> i can't seem to find it in apt-cache
[09:42] <ian_> got it
[09:43] <Linfan> well i just did what you told me and i have nothing but blue lines
[09:43] <Toma-> gerald-volt: yes, but you have to buy it from cedega
[09:43] <Morrowyn> or any other cli irc client
[09:43] <gerald-volt> is there a cvs version/
[09:43] <Sepheebear> forget nano use pequeno
[09:43] <Toma-> gerald-volt: yep
[09:43] <gerald-volt> i remember there was cvs-cedega
[09:43] <thoreauputic> gerald-volt: you have to pay for cedega - unless you want to compile a cvs version yourself
[09:43] <ubuntu> k
[09:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: go to the bottom line and go into INS mode
[09:43] <ian_> then a table went up listing my drives including cd rom dvd floppy and 2 partitions which ubuntu is in...
[09:43] <gerald-volt> where do i get the cvs version
[09:43] <Linfan> in the bottom it says "/etx/x11/xorg.conf" {new file}
[09:43] <Morrowyn> is cedega free if you use a cvs version ?
[09:43] <eobanb> pequeno?
[09:44] <gerald-volt> what's the difference between cvs and regular
[09:44] <Morrowyn> linfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   its case sensitive :)
[09:44] <Wilf> Linfan, /etc/, not /etx/...
[09:44] <Toma-> gerald-volt: alot.
[09:44] <ian_> how do i get to INS mode|?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> I think there's a cvs version - but where to get it I don't know
[09:44] <Morrowyn> select - middle mouse click in terminal :)
[09:44] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: hit the insert key
[09:44] <thoreauputic> gerald-volt: cvs is normally the latest developmant version
[09:44] <lampshade> Hey, I'm building a kinda stereo machine, and although there are command line mp3 players, I want to have playlists, etc, so I figured I was going to install a window manager like XFce, I just wanted to ask the channel for suggestions or better ideas before I go ahead and do this
[09:45] <Toma-> gerald-volt: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[09:45] <Morrowyn> lampshade, i use xmms
[09:45] <Toma-> lampshade: dont use xfce.
[09:45] <Morrowyn> but there are other music players around
[09:45] <ian_> ok sorry about that
[09:45] <thoreauputic> guys, you are braver than me trying to talk someone new through using vi ;)
[09:45] <|Lestat|> Aparently with this driver config the inf files are supposed to be able to pull the firmware, but i dunno how to initialize the device.... stupid wireless
[09:46] <Toma-> lampshade: just have a script that starts X and xmms. maaaaaybe fluxbox. but you dont really need a WM
[09:46] <intelikey> thoreauputic tell me.
[09:46] <Morrowyn> http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html  make the new someone read this :)
[09:46] <ian_> ok whats next...
[09:46] <intelikey> or WORD   or what ever the vernacular is for you.
[09:46] <lampshade> Toma-:  hmmm that's not a bad idea either.  I forgot about fluxbox
[09:46] <thoreauputic> intelikey: :)
[09:47] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: it should say  -- INSERT -- at the bottom left...
[09:47] <Toma-> lampshade: you want the thinnest wm possible if anything :)
[09:47] <ian_> yep
[09:47] <Toma-> maybe even ratpoison
[09:47] <ian_> it has that
[09:47] <Morrowyn> http://math.la.asu.edu/vi_tutorial/vi3.html  or this one if you dont wanna read a lot :)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: vimtutor is not bad :)
[09:47] <Morrowyn> dunno know about that one :)\
[09:47] <lampshade> Toma-:  how is xmms at things like playlists, library organization, basically, I'm looking for winamp for Linux.  I am also awaiting "SongBird" and am hoping that will be cross platform like Firefox
[09:47] <Morrowyn> i used vi tutorial in google
[09:47] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:47] <intelikey> nano   :)
[09:47] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: make a new line somewhere (preferably at the bottom)
[09:47] <eclair> lampshade: xmms is like winamp
[09:48] <coNP> emacs is the one true editor :)
[09:48] <eclair> lampshade: even the interface
[09:48] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[09:48] <ubotu> intelikey: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:48] <Toma-> lampshade: XMMS is great for playlists. its also non-DE specific like amarok and rhythmbox
[09:48] <QQ_ghost> ubotu, start an editor war
[09:48] <ian_> yes
[09:48] <Morrowyn> isnt vi the default unix editor and emacs not ?
[09:48] <lampshade> eclair:  well, hopefully the "Media Library" area would be the same, something like wher I can choose an Artist and it displays only the songs from that artist like winamp does
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: well, yes - but the default in Ubuntu and debian is nano
[09:49] <Morrowyn> is it?
[09:49] <intelikey> it is
[09:49] <eclair> lampshade: iirc, it does
[09:49] <coNP> Morrowyn: nano is the default
[09:49] <lampshade> sweet
[09:49] <Toma-> lampshade: beep media player is a bit better looking tho.
[09:49] <eclair> lampshade: although i am currently mainly using mpg321...
[09:49] <Toma-> lampshade: also, xmms and bmp both support winamp classic skins. not the modern ones tho :(
[09:49] <Morrowyn> i always use vi , because every unix box has it, saves me swithcing back and forth
[09:50] <Morrowyn> between editors and such
[09:50] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: type /dev/(partition here)   /media/ntfs    ntfs  ro,user,noauto      0       0
[09:50] <ian_> im at the bottom.... sorry but what do you mean by creating a new line
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: yes, a lot of people do that
[09:50] <ian_> ok
[09:50] <coNP> Morrowyn: you are right
[09:50] <lampshade> VI for the win
[09:50] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: a new empty line
[09:50] <intelikey> i always use mc -e   cause every linux box i mess with has mc on it  lol
[09:50] <eclair> Morrowyn: true true
[09:51] <Toma-> who cares about editors? its like comparing apples to oranges. personally i prefer bannanas. (eg, mc)
[09:51] <lampshade> I take it fluxbox isn't in the normal repos?  my apt-cache search returned nothing promising.  World?
[09:51] <ian_> yep, wait with the command that you tyoped...(partition here) what partion name should i put there the windows partition name?
[09:51] <QQ_ghost> i LOVE vi damnit!!!
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[09:51] <coNP> I use "sudo apt-get install emacs21 && emacs" :)
[09:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[09:51] <Toma-> lampshade: you need universe and multiverse
[09:51] <sudhir> hi I am mounting windows shared on ubuntu
[09:51] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> lampshade: universe
[09:51] <sudhir> but gettu] ing error unknowns fs type
[09:51] <lampshade> thoreauputic:  thanks
[09:51] <ian_> or is it like the hda1
[09:51] <QQ_ghost> ian_: yup, the windows partition
[09:51] <Toma-> !info blackbox
[09:51] <ubotu> blackbox: (Window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.70.0-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 367 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB
[09:52] <Morrowyn> well sometimes you are on a box, where you are just a user and arent allowed to install anything ....
[09:52] <otep> sudhir: Places > Connect to server...
[09:52] <eclair> lampshade: want to try out wmaker too?
[09:52] <sudhir> i did  sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=sud //192.168.1.100/mp3 s
[09:52] <QQ_ghost> ian_: it's the hd something, where windows is...
[09:52] <Toma-> window maker is too complex
[09:52] <Toma-> for a simple mp3 box
[09:52] <ealden> sudhir: s/smbfs/cifs ?
[09:52] <sudhir> it says wrong fs type :(
[09:52] <lampshade> I've used fluxbox before and liked it so I will probably stick with it.  Especially since this is just a little stereo box,  mp3's and maybe a small webserver only on it.
[09:52] <thoreauputic> for an mp3 box I would probably use blackbox - it's even lighter than fluxbox
[09:53] <eclair> Toma-: well, yeah. you are right... ratpoison maybe?
[09:53] <Toma-> yeh ratpoison i suggested before :D
[09:53] <lampshade> blackbox eh?  I haven't even heard of that, I'll have to google it
[09:53] <Toma-> !info ratpoison
[09:53] <sudhir> ealden : yeh
[09:53] <ubotu> ratpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[09:53] <Morrowyn> fluxbox is nice
[09:53] <ian_> ok just to be clear.... i ahve two hard drives. first drive has windows c: d: e: , and on the second conatinign the f:,  how will i be able to name the partitions for windows?
[09:53] <Toma-> lampshade: thats another option &&
[09:53] <thoreauputic> lampshade: fluxbox is based on blackbox -they are quite similar
[09:53] <Toma-> see the installed size :D sweet
[09:54] <eclair> Toma-: i didn't see that... i just caught part of the conversation :)
[09:54] <sudhir> wht might be the problem
[09:54] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what do you mean name the partitions for windows?
[09:54] <Morrowyn> ian, /dev/hda1 /hda2/hda3 prolly if you have an ide drive, sda1 etc. would be for sata drives and then mount then somewhere you like :)
[09:54] <intelikey> ian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:54] <ealden> sudhir: I think you should use cifs and not smbfs
[09:54] <ian_> i mean how will i know the exact name... like when i was installign ubuntu i while ago tags like hda1, hda2,hdb1 ....how will i be able to poitn out which is which... and which are existing...
[09:54] <sudhir> okie
[09:55] <sudhir> let me try
[09:55] <Morrowyn> unix doesnt work with c: drives since everything is a directory on unix, so you c: drive would be a directory somewhere on your filesystem, and thus ou need to mount it somewehre
[09:55] <QQ_ghost> ealden: what is cifs?
[09:55] <intelikey> ian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:55] <Morrowyn> fdisk -l :)
[09:55] <sudhir> ealden : wow
[09:55] <Toma-> anyone know how to stop metacity from auto-reloading?
[09:55] <sudhir> ealden : thanks it worked fine
[09:55] <ealden> QQ_ghost: IIRC its the new name of smb
[09:55] <ealden> sudhir: cool :)
[09:56] <youngcoder> how can i install this??  jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[09:56] <intelikey> killall gdm Toma-  :)
[09:56] <thoreauputic> youngcoder: don't
[09:56] <Morrowyn> sh <name> or ./<name>
[09:56] <Toma-> gdm?!
[09:56] <sudhir> ealden : i never heard of cifs file system
[09:56] <melodie> hello :)
[09:56] <ian_> entered that on the same termianl at the buttom line nothing showed up
[09:56] <thoreauputic> !tell youngcoder about java
[09:56] <ealden> sudhir: its smb renamed I think. common internet fs IIRC
[09:56] <intelikey> Toma- may not be what you want tho
[09:56] <Morrowyn> but you dont wanna do that on ubuntu :)
[09:56] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a new terminal and type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:56] <ealden> youngcoder: there is a howto on the wiki on installing java
[09:56] <melodie> I put a question on ubuntu at users, but no answer yet, about kernel-sources and kernel-headers
[09:57] <Toma-> intelikey: just wanna killall metacity, so i can run ratpoison instead :D just to try
[09:57] <sudhir> ealden : coz when I checked in connct -->server -->properties, it said file system as smb
[09:57] <ian_> cannot open
[09:57] <ian_> cannot open /dev/hda
[09:57] <coNP> ian_ try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[09:58] <intelikey> Toma- use ps  and  tree mode display   and kill what ever is calling metacity
[09:58] <melodie> does anyone here know what are the right packages to match with a 2.6.12-10-k7
[09:58] <melodie>  in order to get KQemu to compile correctly, please ?
[09:58] <sudhir> ian : try fdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:58] <ealden> sudhir: from wikipedia: Microsoft coincidentally launched an initiative in 1998 to rename SMB to Common Internet File System (CIFS)
[09:58] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sorry : /  forgot the sudo part....
[09:58] <coNP> sudhir: only root can do that :)
[09:58] <ian_> sudo :fdisk command not found
[09:58] <melodie> as the kernel-source in Synaptic (multiverse) is not the same number (2.6.11xx)
[09:58] <thoreauputic> ian_: not possible...
[09:58] <sudhir> ealden : thanks for info
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ian_: fdisk *has* to be there
[09:59] <ian_> no such file or directory
[09:59] <Morrowyn> ian, you have a sata drive in your box?
[09:59] <intelikey> fdisk command not found ?    path error.
[09:59] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:59] <sudhir> ealden : I am a nfs server running  redhat 9, how to mount that Ubuntu
[09:59] <ian_> no my mistake on the command not found i mistyped fdisk to fdsik
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ah
[10:00] <Morrowyn> mount <ipadress>:/path/to/export/dir /<yourmountoint>
[10:00] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  what partitions are type ntfs?
[10:00] <lampshade> wait, so fluxbox is actually based off of blackbox?  Why the split?  Like what does fluxbox do or what did they want it to do that blackbox didn't?
[10:00] <Morrowyn> you could add -t nfs
[10:00] <thoreauputic> lampshade: for a while bb wasn't developed - and fluxbox has tabs and other goodies
[10:00] <ealden> lampshade: extra features, I think
[10:00] <ealden> sudhir: sorry I don't have experience with NFS yet
[10:01] <ian_> got it....hda1 , hda5 , hda6 are all hpfs/ntfs while hda2 is w95 ext'd (LBA)
[10:01] <ealden> :|
[10:01] <ealden> hehe
[10:01] <Morrowyn> make sure : sudo apt-get install portmap :) if you wanna mount nfs exports
[10:01] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  keep that terminal open...
[10:01] <lampshade> hmm
[10:02] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  now go back to the fstab
[10:02] <Morrowyn> oh feck it, ill just install the nvidia drivers myself :P
[10:02] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  the other terminal
[10:02] <ian_> ok/....i also did the fdisk on hdb since i have 1 ntfs partition there containing files... im sharing my nd hd with linux
[10:02] <ian_> ok im in fstab
[10:02] <intelikey> iirc bb forked to flux because of conflicting opinions among developers.   google probably has the whole story.
[10:02] <Morrowyn> oh btw, iirc you dont have write access to ntfs mounts
[10:03] <thoreauputic> intelikey: possibly - but fluxbox is pretty much backward compatible with blackbox (menus, styles etc)
[10:03] <electrofish> lampshade: pwm like tabs is one diff
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: you remember correctly :)
[10:03] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  do you know how to use the paste here?
[10:04] <Morrowyn> :) thanks
[10:04] <QQ_ghost> !paste
[10:04] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:04] <ian_> qq ghost can i have the comamnd for the fstab again i cant seem to see it when i scxroll up on this chat window
[10:04] <intelikey> yes it was just a "we want to do this"   "no we're doing this"   thing as i recall
[10:04] <sudhir1> does ubuntu support as NIS client ?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> intelikey: as far as I know blackbox kind of stopped at about version 0.65 and has only recently been revived
[10:05] <thoreauputic> as in, further developed
[10:05] <intelikey> yes because of the split
[10:05] <lampshade> if I uncomment universe, do I want to automatically uncomment universe security as well?  I would assume so  (in my sources list)
[10:05] <KaRupT> How do I run the dpkg reconfigure oxorg?????
[10:05] <ealden> thoreauputic: yeh for 2 years I think
[10:05] <thoreauputic> lampshade: yes
[10:05] <KaRupT> xorg*
[10:05] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  highlight the whole terminal and goto edit menu and select copy
[10:06] <thoreauputic> KaRupT:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:06] <intelikey> ox-org  :)
[10:07] <ian_> sorry thats what i want the command for fstab again i accidental;ly closed the terminal/..
[10:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: apt-get moo  ;-)
[10:07] <Toma-> oooo this takes me back :D ive even got my old .fluxbox folder from ages ago heheh
[10:07] <intelikey> ;/
[10:07] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: have you tried it ?
[10:07] <ian_> doi paste it here?
[10:07] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  no, goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:07] <Mabus06> I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card.
[10:08] <intelikey> the apt-get command ?     no apt here if that is what you meant thoreauputic
[10:08] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  then paste the web address here...
[10:08] <thoreauputic> intelikey: what are you running?
[10:08] <intelikey> linux for humans
[10:08] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[10:08] <ian_> ok i pasted it already http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6303
[10:08] <intelikey> but not ubuntu :)
[10:08] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I gathered :)
[10:09] <coNP> intelikey: then what?
[10:09] <QQ_ghost> ian_: hold on...
[10:09] <intelikey> why does it matter what distro i use ?
[10:09] <ian_> ok
[10:09] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it doesn't.... and it would be off topic anyway :)
[10:09] <QQ_ghost> ian_: now do your fstab
[10:10] <intelikey> and trolling
[10:10] <QQ_ghost> ian_: the pastey-thing
[10:10] <steven_> can anyone PLEASE help me with a problem with ubuntu
[10:10] <Toma-> hey Amaranth, did you make a metacity theme by any chance?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> steve__: if you tell us what it is, maybe
[10:10] <QQ_ghost> lol
[10:10] <Amaranth> nope
[10:10] <ian_> now i entered sudo vi /etc/hda again and this what came up.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6304
[10:10] <Toma-> oic.
[10:11] <Toma-> theres a metacity theme with your name :O
[10:11] <steven_> i can't seem to burn any cd's..  i have dma on.. i have tried to burn 2 so far both failed, and whenver i do simulation with k3b it fails
[10:11] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:11] <maskd> hey just wanted to ask a question, anybody else with flight 2 version of dapper, was eth0 disabled by default?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> steven_: are you running gnome or KDE?
[10:11] <redguy|work> does anyone know if splashy is going to replace usplash?
[10:11] <steven_> thoreauputic, gnome
[10:12] <thoreauputic> steve__: have you tried using the nautilus burner? What kind of CD are you burning? What file type etc?
[10:12] <Mabus06> I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card. Also, since it's a fresh install how to I get lynx to be installed so I can browse for help with my issue.
[10:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, i need to be able to burn mp3 to audio cd, and data
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, im doing a simulation now with k3b using "raw" mode seems to be working
[10:13] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo rm /etc/.fstab.swp
[10:13] <ian_> ok here is the new one i delted the older one
[10:13] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6305
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, but my device buffer floats around alot
[10:13] <ealden> Mabus06: not sure with the videocard thing, but to get lnyx do a `sudo apt-get install lynx`
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, it failed lol
[10:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: install k3b-mp3
[10:13] <thoreauputic>  for mp3 burning
[10:13] <intelikey> i mean to say "ok guys i use mandrake cause i can't stand ubuntu"  would hardly be welcome in #ubuntu   and i have always avoided such but for the record, my favorite distro is mdk  although i haven't tried debian (R)  or  gentoo (R)   and i have dialup so i probably don't upgrade like the rest of you.  and can't just run the flavour of the month at will.
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have that
[10:13] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:13] <Mabus06> that didn't work, steven_, it's a fresh install I don't think I have the right sources.
[10:14] <Mabus06> I'm familiar with apt-get :P
[10:14] <steven_> thoreauputic, failed again, can i pastebin you my error?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK
[10:15] <thoreauputic> steven_: have you tried running k3b from a terminal to see what errors are getting spat out?
[10:15] <intelikey> now i'll refrain from mentioning distros in the future (as much as possable at least)
[10:15] <steven_> thoreauputic, no.
[10:15] <QQ_ghost> ian_: hold on...
[10:15] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have the write error log though paste binning one sec
[10:15] <ealden> Mabus06: ok
[10:15] <tuskernini> hi there all...
[10:15] <ian_> ok ,,,
[10:15] <thoreauputic> and mis-spells it :D
[10:15] <intelikey> like that one fine too
[10:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:16] <tuskernini> have an hardware upgrade question...
[10:16] <steven_> thoreauputic, god damnit i had the error cut now it disapeered off to simulate i go i guess
[10:16] <intelikey> ask it
[10:16] <|Lestat|> what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[10:16] <steven_> thoreauputic, how do i do the terminal thing with simulate so i see the problems?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> steven_: start it from a terminal so you can see what the heck it does
[10:17] <melodie> re  :)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> just type k3b in a terminal
[10:17] <tuskernini> i am upgrading my motherboard and want to use my hdd to start up on it... but i encounter problems with the screen etc... now i am in a live cd and it works fine... how can i transfer the settings from here to my hdd?
[10:17] <melodie> anyone who could help me ?
[10:17] <Morrowyn> slackware is nice :)
[10:17] <steven_> k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[10:18] <Morrowyn> sudo k3d ?
[10:18] <tuskernini> i know that live cd loads too much drivers... but i would not like to reinstall ubuntu on my aold hdd
[10:18] <thoreauputic> steven_: have you run the k3b setup?
[10:18] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea everything has permission
[10:18] <redguy|work> !ask
[10:18] <Mabus06> How do I get my multiverse and universe repos available without GNOME
[10:19] <intelikey> tuskernini i don't think you want to do it that way.   try booting the installed ub and use  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    to get a login console and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:19] <thoreauputic> steven_: does it report any missing programs? Is it pointing at the right CD device?
[10:19] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea it's using the right device, one sec
[10:19] <ealden> Mabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[10:19] <mrkoje> Mabus06,   use the command line editor vim
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <Mabus06> and do what with it?
[10:19] <mrkoje> Mabus06,      sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <steven_> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6306
[10:20] <mrkoje> Mabus06,  uncomment the lines
[10:20] <thoreauputic> mrkoje: I would recommend nano unless he's used to vim
[10:20] <intelikey> tuskernini that will allow linux to reconfigure the system for the new hardware.
[10:20] <Mabus06> ok, easy enough, thanks, brb
[10:20] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK hang on a tick
[10:20] <mrkoje> thoreauputic,  Mabus06  good point. Nano is friendlier
[10:20] <|Lestat|> what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[10:20] <melodie> redguy|work, what and where (save multiverse) are the right kernel-sources and headers to match my 2.6.12-10-k7
[10:20] <melodie>  ? I need to have them in the system to compile KQemu with Qemu :)
[10:20] <polpak> thoreauputic: agreed. I don't know why ppl point new users to vim. I use it, but I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to be able to dive into it
[10:21] <ealden> Mabus06: uncomment the lines that pertain to multiverse and universe
[10:21] <pl_ice> hey thoreauputic ;)
[10:21] <melodie> the multiverse version is a 2.6.11 something, and I am no sure it was not the cause of failure when I tried, a few weeks ago  :(
[10:21] <tuskernini> intelikey, thanx but i can not even start to boot the system... i will try the f1 sequence thanx
[10:22] <Mabus06> the 'sudo vim etc/apt/sources.list' command doesn't work
[10:22] <thoreauputic> steven_: ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:22] <thoreauputic>   <-- what does that say?
[10:22] <steven_> thoreauputic, here is the text from my terminal also, i dont think its relevant though
[10:22] <steven_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6307
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: /etc (you left out a / )
[10:22] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok one second
[10:23] <tuskernini> intelikey, my system halts before ubuntu boots...
[10:23] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:23] <thoreauputic> steven_: Ok that's the problem
[10:23] <Mabus06> that nor nano will open
[10:24] <lampshade> ok, so I just apt-get installed fluxbox, but I have a feeling it did not install X first, is that something I have to do lol
[10:24] <tuskernini> intelikey,i have a flatscreen, might be that
[10:24] <redguy|work> melodie: hrm, they're supposed to be in linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7
[10:24] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok, what do i need to do
[10:24] <QQ_ghost> ian_: back...
[10:24] <QQ_ghost> ian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6308
[10:24] <lampshade> at least which startx returns nothing so I figure it didn't
[10:24] <thoreauputic> steven_: hang on a second and I'll tell you
[10:24] <redguy|work> melodie: which in turn should be in the regular repositories
[10:24] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok thanks a million
[10:24] <Ticho> lampshade: returns nothing or doesn't exist ?
[10:25] <ian_> ok
[10:25] <melodie> redguy|work, does this package contain the sources as well ?
[10:25] <guillermo> hi people
[10:25] <QQ_ghost> ian_: let me know if that works
[10:25] <lampshade> Ticho:?  Umm  the command returns nothing  just right back to prompt
[10:25] <thoreauputic> steven_: first do   sudo chgrp cdrom /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:25] <tuskernini> ok all, rebooting.. wish me luck!
[10:26] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?
[10:26] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:26] <Morrowyn> hmmmm, my system keeps nagging me about: nvidia kernel module is 1.0.7174 and my nvidia module version is 7667, however i installed the nvidia-kernel-common, which is 1.0.7667 any ideas?
[10:26] <intelikey> oh my!     tuskernini   if you copy the configs from the running live cd  in /etc  it will probably break lots of things.   so i can not sujest that.    although you don't want to reinstall, it is probably the best bet.    backup  the home dir on the installed ubuntu and reinstall is my advice.  although i know you don't want to hear that.
[10:26] <lampshade> and I don't see an xorg.conf so I'm pretty sure it didn't install
[10:26] <steven_> thoreauputic, done
[10:26] <thoreauputic> steven_: then do sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:26] <tuskernini> ahhH!!!
[10:27] <thoreauputic> steven_: then tell me what   ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord    says
[10:27] <melodie> redguy|work, I suppose yes, I find this in 'apt-cache show': Filename: pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7_2.6.12-10.25_i386.deb
[10:27] <tuskernini> ok will do... have anoter hdd that i can use and just run this one on slave
[10:27] <melodie> wao!
[10:27] <tuskernini> intelikey, thanks
[10:27] <DonVinzk> Hi, I will buy a new PC, and so I have a few questions about ubuntu. First of all: if I buy an amd_64, I will download the required distribution. But will I find all the packages available for my architecture ? Or the most important is to have the kernel compiled for the 64 and then the package themselves can be taken compiled for x86 ?
[10:27] <intelikey> tuskernini welcome.  sorry i can't do more
[10:27] <melodie> redguy|work, is that right then ? :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> steven_: ?
[10:28] <lampshade> If I want to install xorg, xserver-xorg is the package I want, correct?
[10:28] <steven_> thoreauputic, sorry back
[10:28] <steven_> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steven_:  hmm did you do the chmod +s  ?
[10:29] <melodie> DonVinzk, you would appreciate better a 32 bits, with good components, memory, fast cpu... diverse things are a pain in the a** for 64 bit computer users as I see on the net
[10:29] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?
[10:29] <steven_> thoreauputic, no one second sorry
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steven_: you need to do that too
[10:29] <intelikey> Mabus06 sure
[10:29] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:29] <intelikey> !sorces
[10:29] <ubotu> intelikey: I give up, what is it?
[10:29] <Mabus06> intelikey: from where?
[10:30] <intelikey> !repos
[10:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:30] <melodie> redguy|work, you didn't confirm so I suppose it's right: thanks, I start dl know and I go get breakfast :))
[10:30] <Mabus06> intelikey: isn't that for gnome?
[10:30] <intelikey> wget that and edit it ^
[10:30] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK now try burning again
[10:30] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok in auto mode?
[10:30] <KaRupT> is there a repository to get americas army???
[10:30] <intelikey> no sources are not desktop specific
[10:30] <thoreauputic> steven_: just try it - iyt should work Ithink
[10:30] <Mabus06> I meant, isn't the howto designed for gnome users.
[10:31] <steven_> thoreauputic, o
[10:31] <steven_> k
[10:31] <DonVinzk> melodie: another issue is that the PC I were interested in has shared memory for video and RAM. Is Ubuntu able to handle it ?
[10:31] <KaRupT> anyone?
[10:31] <QQ_ghost> DonVinzk: yes, it handles shaerd ram just fine
[10:32] <ian_> qq ghost i think i followed your intructions...butit says contents could not be displayed
[10:32] <intelikey> Mabus06 you asked about wget'ing a list   wget that url  and edit out the html crap    or just open it and copy / paste to a blank file  and save as sources.list
[10:32] <steven_> thoreauputic, failed again
[10:32] <DonVinzk> If I use my computer just for desktop apps, no games, is it fine to have shared memory ?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> steven_:  :((
[10:32] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, should be working fine
[10:32] <melodie> QQ_ghost, what is it useful for ? does it save money by using less RAM or sthg ?
[10:32] <steven_> thoreauputic, ill pastebin it.
[10:32] <Morrowyn> i have a couple of laptops running ubuntu with shared memory
[10:33] <Morrowyn> shared memory is fine for officedesktopping :)
[10:33] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs1
[10:33] <steven_> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6309
[10:33] <lampshade> ok how do I startx?
[10:33] <albacker> thoreauputic, how do i get kpkg ? kernel-package ?
[10:34] <QQ_ghost> melodie: yes, it saves the mobo maker money
[10:34] <melodie> DonVinzk, some games need lots, some no so much. We can have 3D accelaration anyhow, and desktop apps as well
[10:34] <Morrowyn> unless you need hardware accelaration for certain apps (3d apps, games)
[10:34] <intelikey> Mabus06 neither of the urls ubotu posted are howto's  and they contain a copy of a working  /etc/apt/sources.list   so i don't understand your question.
[10:34] <melodie> QQ_ghost, ok thks
[10:34] <ian_> changing ownership of media/ntfs1: read onyl file
[10:35] <thoreauputic> steven_: looks like we're getting somewhere at lewast
[10:35] <thoreauputic> *least
[10:35] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok. :-)
[10:35] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea it was going real fast then the "fifo" buffer died
[10:35] <thoreauputic> steven_:   sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:36] <Madpilot> later, everyone
[10:36] <thoreauputic> steven_: then tell me what the ls -l says again
[10:36] <rx2> are there any good blog entries/howtos about running gtk->cairo->glitz? cant find much info on the www :|
[10:36] <ian_> it says on the error that i do not have the permission to view the files...
[10:36] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo umount /media/ntfs
[10:36] <thoreauputic> steven_: just to be sure
[10:36] <rage> Hey, I would like to map a key to a program, I've set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 to "<Alt>F11" and ../keybinding_commands/command_1 to "echo test > ~rage/test.txt" however it doesnt seem to work, what have I done wrong?
[10:36] <rage> *run a program
[10:36] <intelikey> oh Mabus06 let me say i'm sorry for the growl,  i see that there is also a url to a howto posted.... i always skip that, and so didn't notice it.
[10:37] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:37] <Morrowyn> ian_  use this:  mount -o uid=<youruid> /dev/<ntfsdev> /media/<ntfsmountpoint>   since it auto mounts to root on default
[10:37] <ian_> ntfs alone is not found
[10:37] <ian_> butt ntfs1 is
[10:37] <thoreauputic> steven_: my ISP may cut me off in a few minutes BTW
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, :-((((
[10:37] <ian_> i named each partition with its own ntfs #
[10:37] <thoreauputic> steve__: did you run that command ?
[10:37] <QQ_ghost> ian_: good
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, yes
[10:37] <Morrowyn> ian, just add -o uid=1000 or something
[10:37] <intelikey> thoreauputic you too eh  ?
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:37] <QQ_ghost> ian_: unmount it
[10:38] <Morrowyn> umount it first :)
[10:38] <Morrowyn> and remount
[10:38] <barosl> omg, ubuntu won't support updating firefox any more?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> steven_:  no,   sudo chmod u+s
[10:38] <steven_> thoreauputic, i did that :-)
[10:38] <thoreauputic> steven_: you must have mistyped
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ??
[10:38] <steven_> sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:38] <steven_> ?
[10:38] <Mabus06> can someone please pastebin for me either http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RepositoriesHowto or a sources.list that has universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:38] <ian_> no such file or directory....waity what do i put on the ntfsmountpoint and ntfsdev
[10:39] <thoreauputic> steven_: I just tried it here and it should say
[10:39] <thoreauputic> -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <Seveas> mabus powt 2325
[10:39] <Mabus06> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto that is
[10:39] <Seveas> post*
[10:39] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$
[10:39] <intelikey> Mabus06  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:39] <Mabus06> thanks, intelikey
[10:39] <ian_> man this is real hard... i eman for me since im new....all i want is to view files hehe
[10:40] <barosl> someone told me that because firefox 1.5 supports automatic update for itself, ubuntu won't support firefox version-up. right?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> steven_: hang on
[10:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: lol, no joke...
[10:40] <steven_> hi Seveas
[10:40] <intelikey> Mabus06 that's the same one i had ubotu post for you ^ up there.  i just copied it.......
[10:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: ok, type mount
[10:40] <thoreauputic> steven_: that doesn't make sense...
[10:40] <ian_> and?
[10:40] <steven_> thoreauputic, i did what you asked :-(((
[10:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: are there any ntfs mounted?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> steven_: sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:41] <thoreauputic> steve__: oops as you were
[10:41] <quacorezx> hey, can anyone answer a quick question to me about OOo?
[10:41] <steven_> sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:42] <steven_> i did that
[10:42] <thoreauputic> steven_: sorry    chmod o-x
[10:42] <steven_> k
[10:42] <ian_> i guess because when i click on my computer it shows all 4 of the partitions but when i open it it says i dont have permissionj to view the files in it
[10:42] <quacorezx> is there any way to install v2.0.1 for ubuntu, or will it crap out on me?
[10:42] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: what about OOo?
[10:42] <barosl> * You will no longer get automatic updates through the repositories (but firefox itself has a built into auto-updater).
[10:42] <barosl> what it means?
[10:42] <steven_> sudo chmod o-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:42] <steven_> ok
[10:42] <quacorezx> I mean, breezy's repository has the v2 beta right?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> steven_:  you'll have to do chmod g+x after that as well
[10:43] <steven_> thoreauputic, so chmod g+x again?
[10:43] <Morrowyn> ok, i just did the nvidia manually, works peachy now :D with the newest drivers
[10:43] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: don't know, 1.1 does just fine for me
[10:43] <olicat> hi all. does anyone have an idea what i've left out of my kernel config? i can boot it, but can't scan for anything with my wireless card.
[10:43] <thoreauputic> steven_: yes, then tell me what ls -l says
[10:43] <olicat> it's an ndiswrapper card
[10:43] <Morrowyn> food :D
[10:43] <quacorezx> QQ_ghost, well, it's not that it doesn't work fine as is, I'm just trying to teach myself some linux basics and such
[10:43] <steven_> -rwsr-sr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:44] <quacorezx> in this case, will alien's conversions move across distro's
[10:44] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type mount
[10:44] <intelikey> thoreauputic would "-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdwriter 316K Mar 18  2004 /usr/bin/cdrecord"  that help by any chance ?
[10:44] <quacorezx> or will it bomb my entire system
[10:44] <Morrowyn> how do i remove the older kernels, 2.6.9 is still lingering about ...
[10:44] <thoreauputic> intelikey: wrong path and all
[10:44] <ian_> you want me to poaste whats in it?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> intelikey: wrong group as well
[10:44] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: ah, do you know how to use synaptic?
[10:44] <Morrowyn> is it just the kernel-image thing ?
[10:45] <quacorezx> QQ_ghost, naturally, but synaptic's only got the v2 beta
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, is it right now?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: I don't know how you are getting these results...
[10:45] <QQ_ghost> ian_: nope.  are there any ntfs partitions mounted?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: no
[10:45] <polpak> Morrowyn: use synaptic and remove the linux and linux-image packages for kernels you don't want any more
[10:45] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6311
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have done what you said
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: give me a minute
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:46] <ian_> how come not everythiong was mounted
[10:46] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[10:46] <ian_> i eman i did the same thing basically
[10:46] <intelikey> thoreauputic is cdrecord not the same in /usr/bin  and /usr/X11/bin  ?      i was just pointing out a working permissions
[10:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: umount /media/ntfs2
[10:46] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yes maybe - but the group in ubuntu is cdrom
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> ian_: umount /media/ntfs3
[10:47] <ian_> ok
[10:47] <intelikey> hmmm cdrom only reads on this system...
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> done?
[10:47] <ian_> i tyoed moutn and now they are gone
[10:47] <ian_> the two of them
[10:47] <pl_ice> hey i got problem with avidemux , to edit movie files, no sound after edition, any ideas? ...
[10:48] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sorry ISP cut off
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs2
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> steven_:  do this please
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: without the parentheses
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord
[10:49] <ian_> ok
[10:49] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:50] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord
[10:50] <steven_> chmod: cannot access `cdrecord': No such file or directory
[10:50] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sorry - give the full path as before
[10:50] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:50] <QQ_ghost> ian_: do that for all the ntfs directories you made
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> steven_: then tell me the ls -l please
[10:51] <cafuego> On a normal system, there's no need to run chmod on 'cdrecord'.
[10:51] <ian_> how come it only reacted with ntfs3 and ntfs 2
[10:51] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: his was totally wrong
[10:51] <steven_> chmod: too few arguments
[10:51] <ian_> 1 and 4 didnt work?
[10:51] <intelikey> thoreauputic   why world read but not world exec ?   4 is read you know ?
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> chmod 4754
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: I know - tht's what mine is and it is working :)
[10:52] <yan> hello!
[10:52] <steven_> -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: so I'm copying mine :)
[10:52] <DonVinzk> I would have like to have feedback from people using ubuntu on a AMD 64 architecture
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> steven_: aha - that looks like mine now at least :)
[10:53] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type    cd /media
[10:53] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok, try to burn cd?
[10:53] <Seveas> intelikey, it should NOT be world executable
[10:53] <thoreauputic_> steven_: so see if it works
[10:53] <Seveas> instead the user should be added to the cdrom group
[10:53] <yan> I have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??
[10:53] <thoreauputic_> steven_: if not I'm out of ideas...
[10:53] <Ryan> im new w/ ubuntu. i need to install ubuntu in my laptop (compaq presario V2000) w/ mobile AMD Turion 64 Processor. Can I install the latest version of Ubuntu, the one in the download site "64-bit PC (AMD64) install CD"
[10:53] <intelikey> Seveas but 754 ?
[10:54] <Seveas> 754 is reasonable
[10:54] <intelikey> world readable binary ?
[10:54] <intelikey> 750 maybe
[10:54] <Seveas> Ryan, yes
[10:54] <yan> I have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??
[10:54] <Seveas> intelikey, there's nothing wrong with people being able to read it :)
[10:54] <lampshade> what's the proper way to start up X and fluxbox once they are both installed but GDM, etc is not installed (I started with just a server installation of Ubuntu)
[10:54] <QQ_ghost> yan: do you have a network card?
[10:54] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: yeah I don't know why mine is 4 but hey, it works so...
[10:55] <ian_> ok
[10:55] <yan> QQ_ghost,mm, not:(
[10:55] <steven_> thoreauputic, nope
[10:55] <intelikey> nothing wrong with being able to exec it either though.
[10:55] <greg> am I allowed to be here?
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> yan: you might have to find a local LUG...
[10:55] <greg> I am looking for a place to talk about Apache webservers
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> ian: type ls -l
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> ian: paste the results
[10:56] <yan> what is a 'local LUG'?
[10:56] <Ryan> Seveas: thanks! Im running windows XP service pack 2 at the moment... what would i do so that i will have both ubuntu and windows xp in my laptop and my files wont be deleted?
[10:56] <Toma-> greg: as in, apache webserver help?
[10:56] <ian_> ok?
[10:56] <ian_> then
[10:56] <greg> yes
[10:56] <Seveas> greg, unless it's about running apache on Ubuntu you're in the wrong place
[10:56] <QQ_ghost> yan: LUG=linux user group
[10:56] <yan> mmm:)
[10:56] <greg> it is that
[10:56] <Toma-> greg: ask away.
[10:56] <greg> cool, I have apache 2 installed
[10:56] <thoreauputic> steven_: well, I don't know what the trouble is - maybe someone else can help you then
[10:56] <Toma-> on ubuntu?
[10:56] <greg> and it was working fine on 8080 port
[10:57] <steven_> Ok,
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: can you tell yan how to find a local LUG?
[10:57] <greg> and than I installed firestarter
[10:57] <steven_> can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?
[10:57] <linuxboy> how do I get ubuntu to connect to the internet via my phone and bluetooth?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> steven_: sorry - all I can say is at least your permissions look right now
[10:57] <greg> and the site was no longer accessible to the public
[10:57] <intelikey> QQ_ghost google maybe ?
[10:57] <steven_> thoreauputic, thanks for all the help
[10:57] <greg> so i  uninstalled it and it still is inaccessible
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> ian: paste the results
[10:57] <yan> QQ_ghost, intelikey: And by booting from the hard disk ? or from the USB.. Is that possible?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> steven_: no problem - pity it isn't fixed yet :|
[10:58] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6312
[10:58] <greg> that is what I think happened
[10:58] <Seveas> greg, iptables -F
[10:58] <Toma-> greg: is iptables in the command output of "lsmod"?
[10:58] <QQ_ghost> yan: you got a floppy on it?
[10:58] <yan> yes
[10:58] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:58] <steven_>  is what we have right now
[10:58] <yan> only floopy6
[10:58] <greg> alright hold on
[10:59] <thoreauputic> steven_: yes that 's what mine is too
[10:59] <electrofish> 
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> do you have a friend with a usb cdrom?
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> yan: do you have a friend with a usb cdrom?
[10:59] <greg> seveas I typed in iptables -F and didn't get back anything
[10:59] <yan> QQ_ghost, I have 20GB on usb hard drive...
[10:59] <steven_> can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?
[10:59] <Seveas> greg, good :)
[10:59] <thoreauputic> steven_: I assume you are in the cdrom group?
[10:59] <Seveas> try again to connect
[10:59] <yan> QQ_ghost, not a usb CDROM
[11:00] <greg> okay
[11:00] <steven_> thoreauputic, no idea
[11:00] <intelikey> yan could you install it on the usb drive in another box and then move the usb drive to the lappy ?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> steven_: type  groups
[11:00] <steven_> steven adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:01] <greg> okay it seems to have started fine
[11:01] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK you are in the cdrom group
[11:01] <|Lestat|> is anyone here familiar with wireless usb devices?
[11:01] <QQ_ghost> ian: sorry i'm slow, but i'm on dialup
[11:02] <yan> QQ_ghost:  :| , mm It is not like A hard drive, Its the IRiver... Video Player with usb...
[11:02] <ian_> well....
[11:02] <ian_> i guess...i cant do this....
[11:02] <greg> seveas it seemed to have started fine
[11:02] <ian_> is there another way...
[11:02] <yan> QQ_ghost: Can I make Boot for USB?
[11:02] <sniper_bolero> hello guys
[11:02] <intelikey> yan to answer the question "can ubuntu be installed without a cd drive"  if you are an old hand at linux then yes.  if you are new to linux, then you probably can not.   it is a complicated task.
[11:02] <thoreauputic> steven_: does the nautilus burner work for you?
[11:03] <steven_> thoreauputic, i donot know what that is or how to test
[11:03] <greg> you can get floppy installations right?
[11:03] <ian_> qq ghost...
[11:03] <yan> intelikey, Mmm... OK 10x at all
[11:03] <ian_> how do i revert all the cchanges that i made?
[11:03] <greg> seveas?
[11:03] <ian_> i guess i really cant do it....
[11:03] <yan> QQ_ghost:; thnk u too
[11:03] <steven_> thoreauputic, WHOa it looked like it was gonna die, then it kept steady
[11:04] <|Lestat|> i installed ubuntu without a cd drive :)
[11:04] <Ryan> how do i intall ubuntu and still have my windows xp in my system... amd turion 64 laptop
[11:04] <thoreauputic> steven_: so something is happening?
[11:04] <Seveas> greg, there is no floppy install option for Ubuntu
[11:04] <|Lestat|> stuck an hd in my pc box, threw in the cd, installed, then when it rebooted i switched to my other pc
[11:04] <greg> ahhh...
[11:04] <steven_> thoreauputic, tried to simulate then it died
[11:04] <greg> but if we could get back to Apache2 business you would be my grace
[11:04] <Seveas> Ryan, just don't let the installer touch the windows partition :)
[11:05] <Toma-> Seveas: do you know much about routers?
[11:05] <Seveas> greg, you said 'it seems to have started ok', so what's the problem?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> steven_: try actually burning something - sometimes simulation doesn't work
[11:05] <Seveas> Toma-, a bit
[11:05] <greg> I can't see it when I type in the domain name
[11:05] <intelikey> greg ubuntu does not (afaik) make any floppy install disk/images  either for net or hd   but if i'm wrong then you should find it on  http://ubuntu.com
[11:05] <steven_> thoreauputic, Alright
[11:06] <Toma-> Say if i have an adsl modem/router, and then a WAP thats on the adsl lan, that i connect to, what machine would i need to configure to allow ports thru on? the adsl router or the WAP?
[11:06] <Seveas> greg, put the output if the following commands on the pastebin: sudo netstat -tlnp; iptables -L; iptables -t mangle -L
[11:06] <thoreauputic> steven_: if that doesn't work, try opening an ISO in nautilus, right click on it and burn from the context menu
[11:06] <Seveas> Toma-, probably both
[11:06] <Toma-> hmmm thought so.
[11:07] <ian_> anyway one more thing....i have windows on my system how do i configure the boot loader so that it will chooswe windows in default?
[11:07] <QQ_ghost> ian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6314
[11:07] <Toma-> adsl routes the ports to the WAP then the WAP routes them to me?
[11:07] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok burning.. hope it works
[11:07] <Seveas> ian_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, make sure that the line that starts with Default: points to windows
[11:07] <thoreauputic> steven_: so do I ;-)
[11:07] <QQ_ghost> ian: hold on for the grub stuff, it's easier by far...
[11:07] <Seveas> Toma-, yeah
[11:07] <Toma-> ok thankx
[11:08] <steven_> thoreauputic, looks good so far :\
[11:09] <uday> hey guys, i'm looking for a doc to help me set up ltsp on breeezy
[11:09] <greg> where or how is the pastebin
[11:09] <ian_> thanks so much for the help qq ghost im real sorry i wasnt able to cope with your instructions
[11:09] <steven_> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:10] <QQ_ghost> ian: there really should be a comprehensive how-to for beginners
[11:10] <steven_> thoreauputic, looks great so far!
[11:10] <ian_> Seveas: not write permission for file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <thoreauputic> steven_: aha :)
[11:10] <ian_> no*
[11:11] <|Lestat|> theres gotta be someone here who can help me with this damn wireless usb... it's drivin me nuts
[11:11] <Seveas> ian_, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:11] <QQ_ghost> ian: it's cool though, you'll get it soon enough...
[11:11] <steven_> thoreauputic, it did fail to burn  2 cd's normal mode, i think the problem was simulation never worked, and you fixed it but we didn't know
[11:11] <greg> okay its under Greg Ward
[11:11] <thoreauputic> steven_: well, lets see how this burn turns out....
[11:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, perfect at 90% so far
[11:12] <ian_> yeah i hope...ive tried so many distros already i really want to learn linux so hard but it seems every distro has a problem instored for me hehehe
[11:12] <ian_> now im in a word processing program
[11:12] <thoreauputic> steven_: I think probably simulation was the issue combined with the permissions then
[11:12] <Seveas> greg, it's on port 8081, which works: I see a directory listing there
[11:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, yes, 100% thanks so much
[11:12] <intelikey> to developers ?  mantainers ?  or any one that just knows for sure ?   is the breezy iso  the same one that was released in 10/5  or does it get updated ?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> steven_: hopefully now it's fixed!
[11:12] <QQ_ghost> ian: same here, this is my sixth distro...  i still use slackware though...
[11:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: you're welcome :)
[11:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, yay good to hear the kde success noise for once
[11:13] <steven_> k3b
[11:13] <steven_> *
[11:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: it's nice when things work out :)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> heh I hate that k3b noise - I turned it off :)
[11:14] <ian_> qq_ghost...im in the word proceesing prog to edit the menu.lst but i dont quite get what to do
[11:14] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: pretty sure that it doesn't get updated, but don't quote me on that one...
[11:14] <steven_> thoreauputic, hehe, cd's playing perfectly thanks a million
[11:14] <thoreauputic> steven_:  yay!
[11:15] <intelikey> k
[11:15] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:17] <QQ_ghost> ian: highlight the whole block of text where it says "title         Microsoft..."
[11:17] <ian_> and?
[11:17] <ian_> its at the bottom after a separator from the debian ones
[11:18] <QQ_ghost> ian: after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[11:18] <ian_> yep
[11:18] <idefix_> why is there a directory cdrom in the File System?
[11:18] <robzon> idefix_: to let you access the cdrom device ;)
[11:18] <QQ_ghost> ian: highlight all the surrounding text in that block
[11:19] <idefix_> there is no other way then?
[11:19] <ompaul> idefix_, so that you can pop in a CD and will always know which one it is if you had three you would have cdrom0 cdrom1 cdrom2 :-)
[11:19] <ian_> including the first line where it says Thius is a divder, added to separate,,,,,
[11:19] <intelikey> idefix_ man mount
[11:19] <ian_> ?
[11:19] <ian_> ok i go paste...
[11:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: thanks :)
[11:20] <QQ_ghost> ian: no, just the lines from "# This entry automa..."
[11:20] <idefix_> so if I manage to mount my floppy disk there'll be a A; directory too!
[11:20] <robzon> what bittorrent client would you guys recommend?
[11:20] <ompaul> QQ_ghost, paste it all in the pastebin you might see more that is useful :)
[11:20] <melodie> Ok, I've got the linux-headers in the box now :linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 and what about the linux-sources that the KQemu acceleretor is supposed to need to function properly ? what should I dl and where to get it if so, please ?
[11:20] <intelikey> idefix_ also of note  /cdrom is only a symbolic link
[11:20] <ian_> qq ghost
[11:20] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6316
[11:20] <QQ_ghost> k
[11:21] <intelikey> idefix_ ls -l /cdrom
[11:21] <ompaul> robzon, the one that comes with ubuntu is fine - gnome-btdownload - named bittorent on the menu
[11:22] <QQ_ghost> ompaul: yeah, i showed him that
[11:22] <stefan_> idefix_ use the mtools to access your floppy
[11:23] <QQ_ghost> ian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6317
[11:23] <melodie> cause none : apt-cache search source 2.6.12-10-k7  :(
[11:24] <Papageno> I have a .doc file (MS Word) that has an embeded image. How can I extract the image to its own image file? I can open the .doc just fine in OpenOffice.org, but I don't know how to get the picture out.
[11:24] <ompaul> Papageno, if right clicking does nothing for you try saving as a html file it should seperate out text and image
[11:25] <robzon> ompaul: well, I use it now, but I'm looking for something with queueing... azureus sucks, it's slow and eats up to much memory, and I don't want anything that requires KDE :)
[11:25] <ian_> okt hen after that what do i do i have it cut now
[11:25] <QQ_ghost> ian: wait one...
[11:25] <ian_> sure take your time
[11:25] <DonVinzk> Has somebody unbuntu for amd64 ?
[11:26] <QQ_ghost> ian: cut it, then paste it right after "## ## End Default Options ##"
[11:26] <idefix_> pwd
[11:27] <ompaul> robzon, can't help you there all I do is pop ubuntu back into the ether so I have no special requirements - however as an aside if you want to control the max bandwidth that any app uses talking to the intereweb may I take this moment to introduce a command line tool called trickle :-) it works rather well
[11:27] <QQ_ghost> ian: then, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #
[11:27] <ompaul> DonVinzk, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:28] <Papageno> ompaul: Thanks. Saving as HTML worked well.
[11:28] <DonVinzk> ompaul: no, I mean, installed on the machine...I would like to know the issues ;-)
[11:28] <robzon> ompaul: sounds interesting :)
[11:29] <idefix_> No manual entry for mtools
[11:29] <idefix_>  :-(
[11:29] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk,  maya wont run on ubuntu amd64
[11:29] <ian_> ok so i pasted it right after what you said before the ubuntu kernel
[11:29] <ompaul> DonVinzk, issues hmm, that would be you would like to know about running 32bit apps on the box for media and stuff - I think that is on wiki.ubuntu.com in a lot of detail as I don't do 64bit myself I have had no reason to look at it
[11:29] <Morrowyn> well, it wont get installed due to arch 32/64 bit issues
[11:29] <ian_> so what do i do next?
[11:29] <QQ_ghost> ian: now, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #
[11:29] <Morrowyn> apart from that, everything works nice and smoothly
[11:30] <ian_> yep did that too....
[11:30] <QQ_ghost> ian ;)
[11:30] <idefix_> there you go then!
[11:30] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: ok, I amnot interested in Maya yet...
[11:30] <ian_> do i save as or just plain save?
[11:30] <QQ_ghost> ian: now, just save
[11:30] <nish> hii
[11:30] <idefix_> plain..
[11:30] <Morrowyn> :) well if you are, shared memory wont do you no good anyways
[11:31] <pl_ice> hey, anyones totem-xine closes down ? my does that v. often on file opening ...
[11:31] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: I wondered about the flash issue.If I want to compile firefox in 32 bits in order to have flash work, what should I do ?
[11:31] <ian_> ok ill test it now...
[11:31] <gimmulf> Good software for creating flows?
[11:31] <gimmulf> flow schemes
[11:31] <ian_> ill do my reboot:)
[11:31] <gimmulf> or what it's called :)
[11:31] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: at least the basic scheme ;-)
[11:31] <Adross> how do i stop samba from sharing my home folder, as is the default option?
[11:31] <ian_> be back in a moment
[11:31] <QQ_ghost> ian: :)
[11:31] <ompaul> gimmulf, if I understand you >>dia<< is the program you want
[11:31] <Morrowyn> uhm, havent checked flash yet, doesnt macromedia has a 64bit flash plugin
[11:31] <nish> how should i install mplayer...
[11:31] <pl_ice> Adross look for file smb.conf
[11:32] <ompaul> !mplayer
[11:32] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:32] <nish> is it like windows?
[11:32] <QQ_ghost> gimmulf: you mean flow-charts?
[11:32] <Adross> pl_ice: i got that far, i just can't see where in the file the home folder is shared
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  yes
[11:32] <eclair> nish: the gui of mplayer isn't really like windows mediaplayer
[11:32] <Khisanth> mplayer is not wmp
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  not diagrams
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  for making structures before developing a application
[11:33] <pl_ice> Adross net share -I localhost and see if it's shareing, if ti's not in that file, it's not sharing it ...
[11:33] <Morrowyn> try installing firefox32bit from the synaptic :)
[11:33] <QQ_ghost> gimmulf: i got a win 3.11 program for that ;)
[11:33] <gimmulf> hehe lol
[11:33] <Khisanth> gimmulf: tried dia?
[11:33] <gimmulf> Khisanth:  isnt that for diagrams?
[11:33] <nish> i downloaded the package from a link..threre is no "set up" like thing..only files n folders...
[11:33] <Adross> pl_ice: its there
[11:33] <Adross> pl_ice: its also there when i browse to it in nautilus
[11:33] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: no, and on the forums (or at least the thread were old,I did not checked ;-) ), they said there is a compatibility issue
[11:33] <pl_ice> Adross so it must be in the smb.conf ...
[11:34] <Morrowyn> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732
[11:34] <Adross> pl_ice: yes, any clues as to whereabouts it is?
[11:34] <Adross> pl_ice: as it is not located in the same place where the other shared folders are listed
[11:34] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: so I xould like to know how to compile a 32 bit software ? Are there some flags or something,I do not know...
[11:34] <Morrowyn> basically you need to setup a chroot env for the 32bit apps in ubuntu and in there, apt-get the 32bit ubuntu apps, that should works fine and smoothly
[11:34] <pl_ice> Adross ,sorry :) um u'll have to read it all then :) to find it ...
[11:35] <Adross> kk, cheerio then
[11:35] <pl_ice> or patebin, will have a look
[11:35] <Morrowyn> so if you need to compile , i think gcc has a setting wether to use 32bit or 64bit on x86, although im not sure
[11:35] <Morrowyn> but running the 32bit gcc in a chroot 32bit env should work fine i guess ..
[11:35] <_karl> hello?
[11:35] <nish> anyun not so bsy...
[11:36] <KaRupT> HOW can I open a full screen game in its OWN x session???
[11:36] <_karl> does anyone know how to get wireless network working ?
[11:36] <ian_> hi im back it worked good.
[11:36] <ian_> :)
[11:36] <KaRupT> ANYONE know, plz?
[11:36] <QQ_ghost> ian: kick a55
[11:36] <Khisanth> nish: "the package from a link" is pretty vague what kind of package did you download?
[11:37] <KaRupT> hello?
[11:37] <ian_> qq, well so its a fresh install of ubuntu right....my monitor has to be confugured every time i log in to change to 60hz...is there a way to save my settings? so i wont have to scroll at the top of the screen blindly when my resolution is set at 70hz...i need it to be on 60
[11:37] <_karl> does anyone know how to get wireless network working ?
[11:37] <tRSS> KaRupT: sorry man. I cant help you there
[11:37] <Morrowyn> KaRupT, the game should handle that
[11:37] <pl_ice> KaRupT , it's allways bit hard to do it ...
[11:37] <bekelar> hello
[11:38] <pl_ice> ops, KaRupT wrong person ...
[11:38] <bekelar> how do i make a shortcut in /usr/bin to an executable
[11:38] <nish> the name is Mplayer-1.opre7try2..and it has many folders n all..
[11:38] <pl_ice> _karl what card u have?
[11:38] <Morrowyn> bekelar, ln -s it , or make sure /usr/bin is in the $PATH
[11:38] <pl_ice> nish u installing mplayer? not by synaptic? ....
[11:38] <robzon> KaRupT: X :1 <command to run> I think
[11:39] <bekelar> where "it" is the file?
[11:39] <QQ_ghost> ian_: system -> preferences -> screen resolotion -> (checkbox) make default for this computer
[11:39] <nish> don't know searched google got a link clicked on it whats synaptic?
[11:39] <KillerBunny> what should i specify, so i can compile c/c++ programs ? the compiler gcc is complaing about missing stdlib.h
[11:40] <ian_> ok! thnx again i went to that option to change my resolution didnt notice the defualt hehehe
[11:40] <pl_ice> nish under console just type : sudo apt-get install mplayer and it's done ...
[11:40] <_karl> i have a dell trumobile 1400
[11:40] <Morrowyn> bekelar,   ln -s /usr/bin/<thefileordirectorythatsneedstobeshortcutted>  /<pathtowhereyouwannadumptheshortcut>
[11:40] <pl_ice> then have to set gui 'face' for it, don't bother compiling it ...
[11:40] <ian_> hmmm one last... in the grub loader how do i shorten the time to choose i want it to just be 3 seconds instead of ten
[11:40] <Khisanth> nish: a program used for installing precompiled packages
[11:40] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, make sure it can find the libraries/includes
[11:40] <robzon> KaRupT: basically, you need to run additional X server ( X :<diplay> ) and then run the game with DISPLAY envvar set to :<display>
[11:40] <bekelar> thanks a lot, Morrowyn
[11:40] <Khisanth> nish: you seem to have downloaded the tarball instead
[11:40] <KillerBunny> but where are they?
[11:40] <Morrowyn> np
[11:40] <pl_ice> _karl have u searched it on ubuntuforums.org for same card? what's the problem?
[11:41] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, check /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:41] <Morrowyn> dunno if ubuntu has it too
[11:41] <KillerBunny> okey will look.
[11:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <KillerBunny> nope, only a .cache.
[11:41] <pl_ice> i love ffmpeg :)
[11:41] <robzon> KaRupT: it's like: X :1 and then DISPLAY=":1" /path/to/the/game
[11:41] <ian_> ok...whgat do io do next
[11:42] <_karl> when i do iwlist scan i see a wireless network, then i do the iwconfig wlan0 "essid" stuff and it doesnt do anything
[11:42] <Wstylist> why do people use Gnome at all?
[11:42] <izza_> Hello, all.
[11:42] <Mabus06> because it's default installed on ubuntu
[11:42] <Morrowyn> Wstylist, why not?
[11:42] <Wstylist> it was slow
[11:42] <QQ_ghost> ian_: look for "timeout		10"
[11:43] <Wstylist> on my p133
[11:43] <KillerBunny> Morrowyn, any other suggestions ?
[11:43] <pl_ice> _karl u sure u set right channel etc? ...
[11:43] <Wstylist> real slow
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: line 17?
[11:43] <Mabus06> can anyone help me get x working? I recently installed a new motherboard and ati radeon x700 pro video card... and reinstalled ubuntu. Now x won't load
[11:43] <Morrowyn> Wstylist, run fluxbox, xcfe, blackbox on it, you want a liteweight window manager
[11:43] <ompaul> Wstylist, people like me have been using it for years, for you there is sudo >>apt-get install xubuntu-desktop<<
[11:43] <ian_> i see and make it 3?
[11:43] <KaRupT> robzon, envar set to ;<display>  how do I do that?
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: the time is in seconds
[11:43] <Wstylist> i need a distro with amiwm
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sure
[11:44] <Wstylist> anyone knows one?
[11:44] <_karl> yup, channel 6
[11:44] <izza_> I'm a linux newbie, Ive tried KDE, and now Gnome, and Gnome doesn't seem near as intuitive... IMHO
[11:44] <ompaul> Mabus06, dkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help
[11:44] <nish> is there any link..which will just let me download mplayer for ubuntu..without much botherin my delicate brain...
[11:44] <pl_ice> izza_ it's good or bad, don't discuss it ....
[11:44] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, do a find on stdlib.h and add that directory to your ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:44] <QQ_ghost> izza_: yeah, but i run old hardware, so gnome is just right ;)
[11:45] <Morrowyn> although i wonder why ubuntu hasnt set it up for you, since stdlib should come with gcc
[11:45] <Seveas> Morrowyn, wtf?
[11:45] <ltibor65> Hi everybody!
[11:45] <Wstylist> izza you might want to try EDE desktop
[11:45] <Seveas> .h files in ld.so.conf?!?
[11:45] <ian_> ok qq thanks a lot!
[11:45] <izza_> EDE? Never heard of it.
[11:45] <ompaul> Wstylist, check distrowatch.com :-)
[11:45] <ian_> didenough for today tomorrow i will be here again ehhehe taking your time!
[11:45] <Morrowyn> uhm, sorry my bad :)
[11:45] <Seveas> KillerBunny, apt-get install build-essential
[11:45] <ian_> thnx so much!
[11:45] <Wstylist> Ede has somehow better win32 behaviour
[11:46] <ian_> i think ill stick with ubuntu....primaily beacuse i can get help, fast.:) thnx
[11:46] <Morrowyn> the .lib should be there :)
[11:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: just be glad ubuntu doesn't use lilo...
[11:46] <Mabus06> how come my apt-get doesn't seem to be installing anything? My x is not working so I'm at the teletype
[11:46] <izza_> I might give it a shot.
[11:46] <pl_ice> anyone runs xmms with itouch plugin ? ...
[11:46] <idefix_> ltibor65!
[11:46] <Wstylist> http://ede.sourceforge.net/page/ Izza
[11:46] <izza_> Thanks, Wstylist
[11:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: you're quite welcome
[11:46] <KillerBunny> Seveas, i will try to, thanks.
[11:46] <Wstylist> Np izza , u notice it to be quite fast
[11:46] <ian_> thanks really i appreciate it...ill be going now!
[11:46] <ltibor65> I have a problem, I cannot see the packages in the synaptic! I can update the packages, but not see in synaptic. Why???
[11:47] <ian_> thnks a lot!
[11:47] <robzon> KaRupT: export DISPLAY=":1"
[11:47] <ian_> oh btw
[11:47] <QQ_ghost> ?
[11:47] <ian_> is there a program here that has an online radio or something?
[11:47] <Seveas> ian_, beep-media-player can handle mp3 streams
[11:47] <ompaul> ltibor65, why not take a screen shot and paste it into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:47] <ian_> because since i casnt access my library for now in my windows partitions i would really want to here music eheh
[11:48] <izza_> Anyone have a script for install routines so I can right click and run without using the console?
[11:48] <QQ_ghost> ian_:i would be the wrong person to ask
[11:48] <ian_> ok thnks anyways
[11:48] <ian_> seveas....do i download that or is the package in my hd waiting to be isntalled?
[11:48] <ompaul> !tell ian_ about ntfs
[11:48] <ompaul> ian_, that should help you get to your library
[11:48] <Seveas> ian_, apt-get install beep-media-player
[11:48] <ompaul> ian_, read only
[11:49] <Wstylist> izza i think your linux is Puppy linux
[11:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: on my system i have a fat32 partition to share data between lin & win
[11:49] <Seveas> ompaul, dapper has rw support for ntfs :)
[11:49] <Wstylist> its quite easy to use
[11:49] <Wstylist> has decent help
[11:49] <ltibor65> ompaul, I would it make, but the erros massages is hungarian, and nobody understand it.
[11:49] <ian_> ompaul the link is dead,,,, i mean the site where to get the script
[11:49] <ompaul> Seveas, don't say dapper until X3 :)
[11:49] <Wstylist> and its small so u spend time learning the core operating system instead of lots of modern junk
[11:49] <eclair> ! pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:49] <Seveas> !dapper
[11:49] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:49] <Seveas> !dapper drake
[11:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake is the fourth release for Ubuntu, which will be version 6.04
[11:50] <izza_> The help is lacking... I mean, it seems to have good help, but the guides rarely work.
[11:50] <Seveas> !drake
[11:50] <ubotu> [drake]  a dragon
[11:50] <robzon> Seveas: it does?? is it in the current snapshot already
[11:50] <robzon> ?
[11:50] <Wstylist> well Peanut has a built in help system
[11:50] <Wstylist> win32 behaviour
[11:50] <Seveas> robzon, yes
[11:50] <Wstylist> cant be that bad
[11:50] <ompaul> Wstylist, stop already your repeating yourself
[11:50] <Seveas> it's still experimental, but so far worked for me
[11:51] <izza_> I really would just rather use a script to manually install, rather than use package managers and whatnot
[11:51] <ompaul> ian_, that link works for me
[11:51] <Wstylist> it has some kind of installer service
[11:51] <robzon> Seveas: and it's more than overwriting existing files without changing their size? :)
[11:52] <ompaul> Wstylist, have a look at help.ubuntu.com and docs.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <Seveas> robzon, yes :)
[11:52] <idefix_> what is bot abuse?
[11:52] <Seveas> creating, overwriting with different size, removing
[11:52] <izza_> Right now I'm just trying to get Limewire working... I've installed Java, and Limewire... but Limewire doesn't run, and Java doesn't seem to work.
[11:52] <idefix_> if I type some words preceded with aclimation marks am I kicked too then?
[11:52] <ompaul> idefix_, something seveas kicks people for - abusing the channel bot
[11:52] <ompaul> !bot
[11:52] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:53] <Wstylist> Don't ask me izza im an NT guy :)
[11:53] <ompaul> idefix_, read the url
[11:53] <izza_> Me too. =/
[11:53] <robzon> Seveas: ahhh finally! now migrating desktops will be much easier
[11:53] <Wstylist> just testin Linux in Vmware i want to build my own distro
[11:53] <thoreauputic> idefix_: only if you misuse the bot - not if you use it for genuine help or info
[11:53] <Wstylist> i already hacked my NT to death
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wstylist: sounds like a good thing to do to NT ;-)
[11:54] <ompaul> Wstylist, conversations take place in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel
[11:54] <izza_> Honestly, I work as a tech, and I get more and more questions regarding Linux every day... just trying to get comfortable with it so I actually know what I'm talking about.
[11:54] <idefix_> !mount
[11:54] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:55] <idefix_> but you bother other people with it slightly
[11:55] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: how do you do that *|thoreauputic "does something" message?
[11:55] <idefix_> or is the output only in my chatwindow?
[11:55] <ompaul> idefix_, do this /msg ubotu mount << and you will not bother the,
[11:55] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost:   /me does something
[11:55] <Seveas> !irc
[11:55] <ubotu> well, irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[11:55] <ompaul> idefix_, this is IRC the granddaddy of all those little im things
[11:55] <Seveas> ^-- QQ_ghost
[11:56] <QQ_ghost> thanx
[11:56] <Wstylist> izza i on the other hand want to make a distro that's PNP and Installs packages by Next buttons :)
[11:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: we all see it
[11:56] <ltibor65> ompaul, synaptic write: "there are 7 broken packages on the system. The mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find archives for it. Inner error by opening cash." What to do?
[11:57] <robzon> Wstylist: you mean, you want to clone ubuntu? :)
[11:57] <ompaul> Wstylist, please converse in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:57] <Wstylist> Thats why i look at alot of distros to see what i can take from em and combine into one
[11:57] <Seveas> ltibor65, that sounds like serious trouble
[11:57] <Wstylist> sorry i will
[11:57] <Seveas> ltibor65, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:57] <thoreauputic>  Inner error by opening cash  <<-- that 's a new one on me
[11:57] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[11:57] <ompaul> thoreauputic, badly spelt cache
[11:57] <Seveas> thoreauputic, probably "Internal error while opening cache" :)
[11:58] <thoreauputic> ompaul: oh - I thought it was a comment on miserly behaviour
[11:58] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:58] <Seveas> aaaaaaaaaaah caffeine
[11:58] <ompaul> back to work
[11:58] <Seveas> I;m fighting ld.so here, that's hard work :)
[11:58] <ltibor65> Seveas, yes, I am not English.
[11:58] <idefix_> !tell idefix_ about mount
[11:59] <Seveas> ltibor65, that's not a problem, just execute the command I gave you and put the output on the pastebin
[11:59] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: are the versions identical for the 64 bits and 32 bits programms (I mean... are the 64 bits older or less updated ?)
[11:59] <kestas> anyone know of a way to specify in a regex a list of chars which shouldnt be in there? like say I have a string part1/part2/part3 and I only want part3?
[11:59] <QQ_ghost> cool
[11:59] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: and second: is it possibleto use MPlayer and the w32codecs ?
[11:59] <kestas> part3 could be anything but it won't have a '/' charecter in it
[11:59] <ltibor65> Seveas, thanks, I try it.
[11:59] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, 'morning glad to see you
[12:00] <Seveas> hi Sh4d0x
[12:00] <ompaul> kestas, your statement | grep -v part1 | grep -v part2  will leave you with only part 3 if I understand your question
[12:00] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, i finished your request
[12:00] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, rock!
[12:00] <visor> hi guys
[12:00] <ompaul> !tell DonVinzk about restricted
[12:01] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, could you e-mail it to me (dennis @ ubuntu.com)
[12:01] <kestas> ompaul, nope it's a whole string, like on one line you'd get asdf/sldkfs/alsdkfl, and you only want the third part
[12:01] <greg> alright I apologize, my daughter is sick and she needed me...
[12:01] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, k, you will receive it in a moment
[12:01] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, no idea, you need to check the ubuntu site on that. i reckon if you run mplayer in the chroot 32bit env, you are fine
[12:01] <ompaul> kestas, you need to play with something called >>cut<<
[12:01] <DonVinzk> ompaul... what ?
[12:01] <Seveas> greg, then why are you in here? ;)
[12:01] <thoreauputic> greg: no apologies required for that
[12:01] <QQ_ghost>  !tell QQ_ghost about restricted
[12:01] <kestas> ompaul, so I need a way to have a regex which says something like \(.*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\)
[12:02] <ompaul> DonVinzk, check for a message from the bot
[12:02] <visor> could somebody point me to a FAQ of mame so i can play these games... i havent found anything and the program complains about not finding files... (i know i know its a little bit off topic but we ubuntu guys know a lot dont we?)
[12:02] <greg> You are right, I should be with her right now, but I would love to know if you found anything?
[12:02] <kestas> ompaul, but instead of .* it should be [a-zA-Z0-9etcetcetc, ie everythingexcept '/'] *
[12:02] <greg> she is right here with me
[12:02] <Seveas> kestas, ([^/] )*$
[12:02] <Morrowyn> it would be nice if ubuntu has some sort of installer for that on the 64bit arch, would save lots of time and hassle :)
[12:02] <kestas> Seveas, thanks :)
[12:02] <ompaul> kestas, ahhhhh
[12:02] <ian_> will kde packages work on gnome?
[12:03] <Seveas> ian_, yes
[12:03] <thoreauputic> ian_: sure
[12:03] <ian_> ic thanks
[12:03] <ltibor65> Seveas, the message is: " The Mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find package for it."
[12:03] <Seveas> greg, did you get my message about the fact that your server is actually working?
[12:03] <greg> no, it is?
[12:03] <Seveas> ltibor65, the *complete* output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[12:03] <Seveas> greg, yes, it's on port 8081
[12:04] <QQ_ghost> why do i get a "certificate error" on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:04] <greg> aha...
[12:04] <Seveas> QQ_ghost, because the certificates should be renewed
[12:04] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: i think it needs renewing
[12:04] <ompaul> QQ_ghost, cos someone had not renewed it
[12:04] <thoreauputic> heh great minds...
[12:04] <ompaul> s
[12:04] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, got it?
[12:04] <ltibor65> Seveas, that is all.
[12:05] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, yep, cool thanks :)
[12:05] <QQ_ghost> just making sure it wasn't my browser...
[12:05] <Sh4d0x> Seveas hope you like it :)
[12:05] <Seveas> ltibor65, then put your sources.list in the pastebin :)
[12:06] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, yeah, I'll go tweak it a bit more and use it as the official logo :)
[12:06] <ompaul> right I have to do some stuff l8r
[12:06] <nish> is there any links for cool wallpapers..or i will have to stick to my chocolaty wall.....
[12:06] <Seveas> !themes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> see you ompaul  :)
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell nish about themes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> nish: you can use any picture you like as a wallpaper
[12:07] <greg> what are you typing in as the url seveas?
[12:07] <Seveas> http://64-203-185-115.va.mvl.ntelos.net:8081/
[12:07] <nish> some website is saying i need IE for downloading wall papers..
[12:07] <thoreauputic> hahah
[12:07] <Seveas> nish, then don't use that one :)
[12:07] <nish> yeah
[12:07] <thoreauputic> nish: find some .png or .jpg pictures
[12:08] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: can I sopy/paste my ubuntu32 sources.list on my new machine,or willI have tomodify it ?
[12:09] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk,  check your pm
[12:10] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: yes,thks
[12:10] <Morrowyn> np
[12:11] <joshi_> Hello. Anyone willing to help me with setting up modem?
[12:11] <Mabus06> can somebody help me get my apt-get working?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> joshi_: what sort of modem?
[12:12] <Mabus06> I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors
[12:12] <mp3guy> hi, i'm thinking of investing in some kind of surround sound setup for my pc, just wondering what cards support surround sound in ubuntu properly?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> joshi_: is it a serial modem? Hardware external?
[12:12] <joshi_> uhm.. laptop
[12:12] <joshi_> made by ESS Technologies
[12:12] <win[X] amp> joshi_ : what modem
[12:12] <Sh4d0x> i'm off, playing advent rising :D cheers xxx   (Seveas, in case you need me, you know how to reach me)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> joshi_: ah - possibly a winmodem then :(
[12:13] <ltibor65> Seveas, I sent the sources list to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:13] <thoreauputic> joshi_: you might want to look at  http://linmodems.org
[12:13] <joshi_> i used ScanModem for detecting my modem.
[12:14] <QQ_ghost> what rpg/stratagy games do a clean install in ubuntu?
[12:14] <joshi_> it said that " There has been no formal support for Linux since kernels 2.2.2"
[12:14] <joshi_> =(
[12:14] <thoreauputic> joshi_: :(
[12:15] <QQ_ghost> i'm still looking for AMR modem support...
[12:15] <joshi_> ESS Technology ES2838/2839 SuperLink Modem <= thats the full name
[12:15] <Mabus06> Can somebody help me to get my apt-get working? I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors. apt-get update gives me errors as well.
[12:15] <DonVinzk> I have: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required whenI try tocompile firefox...anybody with the sameproblem ?
[12:16] <greg> thanks Sevea I found it. -Greg
[12:16] <greg> You have been a great help.
[12:17] <thoreauputic> joshi_: just googled it - doesn't look very hopeful I fear
[12:17] <thoreauputic> joshi_: mostly seems to link to sites that say it doesn't work with linux :(
[12:18] <slarts> Hi y'all ... how do you view the list of packages already installed with apt-get ... and without using synaptic?
[12:18] <slarts> as in rpm -qa
[12:18] <Neo_> How is the name from the nero version for Linux ?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list or check out the links ubotu is about to spit out
[12:19] <thoreauputic> !sources
[12:19] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:19] <thoreauputic> slarts: try dpkg -l | less
[12:19] <slarts> ta
[12:19] <slarts> ... or | grep, in my case :>
[12:19] <thoreauputic> slarts: ii means installed
[12:19] <ltibor65> Seveas, any idea to synaptic-problem?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> slarts: yes if you know what you are looking for, | grep foo
[12:20] <joshi_> thoreauputic :  The 2.4.18 driver was written for an HP XE3 notebook with an ESS modem in it, so it should work with those laptops. I don't know about other ESS modems.
[12:21] <slarts> nvidia :>
[12:21] <thoreauputic> joshi_: hmm - I don't know enough about winmodems to help you, sorry
[12:21] <slarts> rc means ... "removal candidate"?
[12:21] <joshi_> thoreauputic :  i have HP XE3 laptop... only diffrence is kernel version... is ther point to try that driver?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> slarts: residual configuration I think
[12:22] <slarts> as in its listed in the internal DB, but the package has actually been removed?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> joshi_: try *anything* you can is my advice :)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> joshi_: you might get lucky
[12:22] <joshi_> ok.. thnx ill go try
[12:23] <thoreauputic> joshi_: last time I had a winmodem it was a major pain
[12:23] <Neo_> where i can download the editor for html and what si his name ?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> slarts: I'm not sure, but I think it means it was removed but not "purged"
[12:24] <kestas> does anyone know what the difference between 'export variable=0' and 'variable=0' is?
[12:24] <Mabus06> can somebody please help me to get my ATI Radeon X700 Pro woring?
[12:24] <ltibor65> Guys, how to watch TV in Ubuntu? I have both analog (Leadtek Winfast 2000 Deluxe) and digital tunercard (Technisat Skystar2) on computer. Which program need I use for it?
[12:24] <kestas> what does 'export' do?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Neo_: there are quite a few - did you want a wysiwyg editor?
[12:24] <idefix_> the private messages are blocked!
[12:24] <mojo> What do I do if apt chokes on a file, says error processing.  It halts both an upgrade and dist-upgrade
[12:25] <Seveas> kestas, export puts it in the envoronment
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Neo_: if so, sudo apt-get install nvu
[12:25] <Seveas> without it, only the shell knows the variable
[12:25] <kestas> Seveas, if I don't use export will child processes like functions and forks still inherit the variable?
[12:25] <mojo> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1)
[12:25] <Seveas> no
[12:25] <idefix_> because I'm not registered the private message are blocked.. the only way to get info from the bot is to ask it here
[12:26] <thoreauputic> idefix_: are you registered with nickserv ?
[12:26] <Seveas> functions aren't child processes...
[12:26] <thoreauputic> idefix_: so register...
[12:26] <mojo> Isn't there a back door to the bot via a web page?
[12:26] <EddieDaMan> hi seveas, where can in find and install the w32codecs?
[12:26] <kestas> Seveas, they become seperate child processes if you fork them
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[12:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:27] <kestas> Seveas, looks like they are inheriting non exported variables though, so that's fine
[12:27] <ltibor65> How to watch TV on Ubuntu? Any idea?
[12:27] <EddieDaMan> !w32codec
[12:27] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:27] <Seveas> EddieDaMan, try cipherfunk (google is your friend)
[12:27] <mojo> ltibor65: mythtv, freevo, and others?
[12:27] <EddieDaMan> thank
[12:28] <QQ_ghost> i'm having trouble downloading w32codecs, is there a mirror somewhere...?
[12:28] <mojo> ltibor65: for PVR/Tivo like functions (and more), but will also simply tune the tv cards and let you watch
[12:28] <mojo> Is there a dapper-specific chat channel???  I have problems with apt errors on Dapper F2 AMD64
[12:29] <DonVinzk> If I install a ubuntu i386 distribution on an amd64, willit work ?
[12:29] <mojo> DonVinzk: YES YES YES :)
[12:29] <ltibor65> mojo, mythtv is a bit difficult, it uses mySQL database.
[12:30] <mojo> DonVinzk: I am running since 4.10 thru 5.04 and 5.10 Ubuntu i386 on AMD64 NVidia NForce3 Ultra mobo
[12:30] <idefix_> well.. there probably are some really quiet channels where you could use the bot without annoying too many people
[12:30] <mojo> DonVinzk: Have not tried Dapper i386, am trying out the 64-bit variant
[12:30] <DonVinzk> mojo: ok.Because I want toinstall it on my mother's computer, but I guess she will not be happy to use a chroot envirronment everytime...
[12:31] <mojo> There should be a web-page back-door to Ubotu so you can ask it questions w/o bothering folks in channels
[12:31] <DonVinzk> and until there is a good 64 support... Because she will buy it this afternoon...
[12:31] <thoreauputic> mojo: you already can if you register - just do /query ubotu
[12:31] <mojo> DonVinzk: She will be pleased, AMD64 runs i386 well for me
[12:32] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, just run ubuntu 32bit
[12:32] <Morrowyn> it runs fine :)
[12:32] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: yes, and I am becoming used to it...so...
[12:32] <QQ_ghost> mojo: try /msg ubotu
[12:32] <mojo> DonVinzk: Yes, I understand.  It is mainly Flash for me that gets under my skin regarding 64bit support.  ATI finally came out with video drivers last Jan.
[12:33] <DonVinzk> mojo: I thought building firefox from source, telling him to build it in 32bits would work
[12:33] <mojo> QQ_ghost: Yeah, but some dude with unregistered nick can't do that and was trying to here.  I can understand... some people are not fond of registering
[12:33] <Morrowyn> i ditched ubu64 for ubu32, but only coz im too lazy to figure out how to setup shop properly for maya 32bit ... i might check it in the near future
[12:34] <Morrowyn> apart from maya, everything ran peachy for me, apart from flash ... but you need to complain at macromedia about that
[12:34] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: nope, it only ever did at times of high bot-flow
[12:34] <mojo> QQ_ghost: plus, it would be handy sometimes as many ppl use ffox to resarch on the web, and only fire up irc after they get stuck and even then would hit ubotu first.  A web to ubotu's data would be useful and efficient for folks.
[12:34] <DonVinzk> mojo: and I had the w32codecs issue too which seemsannoying
[12:34] <Hobbsee> ah, wish it always did - it's far easier when people register
[12:35] <Hobbsee> mojo: there is one, but what's the address?
[12:35] <mojo> DonVinzk: Oh yeah, sometimes I forget that those are there.  I hate having to use them.  I try to stay with FOSS media formats as much as possible.
[12:35] <QQ_ghost> mojo: gotta argee with ya there...
[12:35] <Draken> guys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?
[12:35] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: easier to do what?
[12:35] <mojo> Hobbsee: I dunno!
[12:35] <Hobbsee> mojo: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:35] <DonVinzk> mojo: me too, but I do not always find what I need in FOSS formats
[12:35] <Hobbsee> found it, again, via a google search
[12:36] <DonVinzk> and I gues my mother... will not understand the issue ;-) mojo
[12:36] <Draken> guys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?
[12:36] <yatesy> the internet wouldn't exist if it wasn't ;P
[12:36] <QQ_ghost> Draken: xp supports 2 nic's?
[12:37] <Draken> ya ?
[12:37] <mojo> Draken: Yes you can.  And you can bridge more than one without upgrading to the "server" product ;)
[12:37] <Draken> mojo
[12:37] <Draken> how ?
[12:37] <mojo> Draken: that is, you can bridge 5 or more if u got 'em
[12:37] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work.
[12:38] <mojo> Draken: The easiest way is to use Firestarter to set up the connection sharing.  But it (presently) only supports it for one additional port.
[12:38] <Draken> well
[12:38] <mojo> Draken: to do it for more than one you need to manually do it.  It is done through IPTABLES i believe.  It is called MASQUERADING if I am not mistaken.
[12:38] <Draken> i only got 2 network cards, well 3, but im only using two
[12:38] <yatesy> mojo: wrong
[12:38] <yatesy> mojo: that ISN'T bridging
[12:39] <mojo> Draken: righ on.  you should be able to do that.  Um, yatesy, feel free.  I am not an egg spurt
[12:39] <Draken> k ta mojo
[12:39] <yatesy> Draken: you want a true bridge and not NAT right?
[12:39] <yatesy> ie what comes in on one nic goes out the other untouched?
[12:39] <Draken> dont mind, as long as its like my current windows xp
[12:40] <mojo> yatesy: Draken: I think you meant the equivalent of Internet Connection Sharing????
[12:40] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.
[12:40] <Draken> well mojo
[12:40] <Draken> i got a 10mb network card, and 2 1gig network cards
[12:40] <Draken> in windows, they all bridge
[12:40] <Draken> so it acts as one big network card
[12:40] <QQ_ghost> Draken: i don't think xp does a straight-through
[12:40] <yatesy> thats a true bridge
[12:41] <Draken> so 3 ppl can connect to me like if i got a built in hub
[12:41] <yatesy> Draken: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[12:41] <Draken> k
[12:41] <QQ_ghost> Draken: i am almost certain xp can only do NAT
[12:41] <mojo> Draken:So you mean it, like, aggregates them ???  Okay my bad, I am not so familiar with that but have heard of it.
[12:41] <yatesy> QQ_ghost: well you're wrong :P
[12:42] <QQ_ghost> yatesy: not the first time
[12:42] <QQ_ghost> lol
[12:42] <yatesy> QQ_ghost: "A bridge is a way to connect two Ethernet segments together in a protocol independent way. Packets are forwarded based on Ethernet address, rather than IP address (like a router). Since forwarding is done at Layer 2, all protocols can go transparently through a bridge."
[12:42] <mojo> Draken: I have 2 gig on mobo and one 100mb, and use one to the cable modem and the other two each to a roommate.
[12:43] <yatesy> can't you guys be bothered to get a switch? ;)
[12:44] <yatesy> heh
[12:44] <Draken> yatesy
[12:44] <Draken> its my dad, to noob to upgrade his 10mb card
[12:44] <Draken> :p
[12:44] <yatesy> lol
[12:45] <mojo> Hey, is there a Dapper channel?  I have dapper problems
[12:45] <yatesy> tell him it'll be cheaper than the cost of leaving your pc on all the time to give him internet access :)
[12:45] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.
[12:46] <mojo> Mabus06: how far u get?
[12:46] <Mabus06> Installed fglrx I think.
[12:46] <Mabus06> but it just isn't working
[12:46] <mojo> xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[12:46] <mojo> Mabus06: using apt-get?
[12:47] <mojo> Mabus06: a good place to start is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:47] <yatesy> did you even change over your Xorg config file?
[12:47] <mojo> !dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:47] <Mabus06> apt-get I got to work
[12:47] <Mabus06> mojo, should I pastebin xorg.0.log?
[12:47] <Mabus06> or is there an easier way to do that, considering I only have lynx for browsing?
[12:48] <mojo> Mabus06: well, I am in text-only too.  but yes, you should anyway, I can always start GDM back up
[12:48] <haakonn> dapper drake? i would have prefferred dapperiva
[12:48] <Seveas> shiver
[12:48] <Seveas> mandriva :|
[12:48] <Hobbsee> mojo: it's here, as well - no separate dapper channel
[12:48] <mojo> Mabus06: you can use grep to filter the output of the log file.  Try it with (EE) for error lines, or WW for warning.
[12:49] <mojo> Hobbsee: I am having horrible problems, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade both fail with dpkg errors processing a file.
[12:49] <Hobbsee> which errors?  pastebin them?
[12:49] <mojo> Hobbsee: Ug, okay.  I'll restart gdm and fire up ffox...
[12:49] <Seveas> mojo, no need
[12:50] <Seveas> wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[12:50] <Seveas> chmod +x pastebin
[12:50] <Seveas> and pipe output to it :)
[12:50] <mojo> Mabus06: Hey, go on and pastebin your Xorg.0.log AND your /etc/X11/xorg.conf files since I'm going graphical here anyway
[12:50] <mojo> bbiaf
[12:50] <Mabus06> mojo, I have a driver cd should I use that? But is it only for windows that I can use it?
[12:51] <mojo> Mabus06: scratch that, now i cant start GDM cuz of my broken upgrade. (sigh)
[12:51] <yuri_> How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Mabus06> mojo, so will my drivers cd do any good?
[12:52] <erchache> i have a server on production mode with ubuntu amd64 over hoary....is secure to make a dist-upgrade to breezy....i did since months ago and need to reinstall all system
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: you should first be trying the ubuntu package for the ATI binary drivers.  It is called xorg-driver-fglrx and is avialable in apt or Synaptic program on administrative menu.
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: NOT sure if you need to activate the universe or multiverse repositories, though.
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: you might.
[12:53] <Seveas> mojo, no, only restricted :)
[12:53] <yuri_> How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?
[12:53] <Seveas> with a match
[12:53] <Mabus06> I already ahve it
[12:53] <mojo> mojo: if you mean the one that came with the gfx card?  No.  I doubt it.  Not for Linux.
[12:54] <brenner> yuri_: open up nautilus, then go > cd/dvd creator, then drag and drop
[12:54] <mojo> Mabus06: you already have xorg-driver-fglrx installed via Ubuntu package management system (apt/synaptic)
[12:54] <mojo> ??
[12:54] <Mabus06> apt yes
[12:54] <brenner> yuri_: or you can use a specialised app
[12:54] <mojo> Seveas: k
[12:54] <yuri_> nautilus?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> yuri_: the file manager
[12:54] <Mabus06> my x isn't working, that's the problem. So I can't use synaptic or anything.
[12:54] <yuri_> I ave Kde?
[12:54] <yuri_> Kubuntu*
[12:54] <hang> hello,anyone there?
[12:55] <yuri_> have*
[12:55] <brenner> yuri_: then why'd you say ubuntu?
[12:55] <mojo> Mabus06: Okay then.  Well, you may have used it to start the install
[12:55] <hang> there are something wrong with my cedega ,help me please
[12:55] <thoreauputic> yuri_: ah - well install k3b then - it's an excellent CD burner
[12:55] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: already installed on kubuntu
[12:55] <apokryphos> yuri_: just alt+f2 -> k3b
[12:55] <mojo> Mabus06: There is after all the foss 'ati' driver, xorg-driver-ati that does not have all the hardware acceleration but gives  u x
[12:55] <yuri_> thoreauputic: 10x, brenner : sorry:\
[12:56] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: ah right - I did the kubuntu-desktop thing :)
[12:56] <apokryphos> yup, that brings it in
[12:56] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I think I already had k3b
[12:56] <hang> there are something wrong with my cedega
[12:56] <thoreauputic> thus I didn't know it was default
[12:56] <apokryphos> 8)
[12:56] <mojo> Mabus06: but you can get the fglrx to work.  i have a radeon 9800 xt working fine on Breezy
[12:57] <brenner> yuri_: no worries
[12:58] <Mabus06> mojo, fglrxinfo yields an error
[12:58] <mojo> Mabus06: have you tried grepping the x log for errors yet?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> hang: we can't really help with cedega - I assume you paid for it and get support from them
[12:58] <hang> hmm..:(
[12:58] <Mabus06> Xlib connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:58] <thoreauputic> hang: cedega is not part of ubuntu
[12:59] <mojo> Mabus06: try something like "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE" or try with WW for warning lines.  If too much for a screen (doubtful), you can also pipe to more by adding "|more"
[12:59] <hang> o
[01:00] <ltibor65> mojo, I tried install Zapping for Tv, but it says:"checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:00] <ltibor65> " What to do?
[01:00] <quoth> I recompiled my own kernel and now I lost the graphical splashscreen/wrapper when booting, how do I get this back?
[01:01] <kino-tak> hey everyone
[01:01] <kino-tak> hi
[01:01] <brenner> ltibor65: why compile? it's in the universe repo
[01:01] <yuri_> in Kubuntu, How can I do to see eather my NTFS drives?
[01:02] <magoo> can someone help me compilee my kernel
[01:02] <mojo> ltibor65: find out what that XML parser library is and install it.  you are having a dependency problem no?  You need to find out what libraries and such this Zapping for TV program requires and install them.  Once you have the perl module for XML parsing it wants it will either complete or at least go on to the next dependency it is missing and fail there.
[01:02] <thoreauputic> yuri_: you know that there is a #kubuntu channel, right?
[01:02] <mojo> ltibor65: or so i believe ;)
[01:02] <kino-tak> does anyone use amule here
[01:03] <mojo> kino-tak: no, i prefer llamas
[01:03] <yuri_> thoreauputi, yes but it doest active
[01:03] <mojo> (joke)
[01:03] <ltibor65> thanks, mojo, I try it.
[01:03] <mojo> ltibor65: good luck!
[01:04] <thoreauputic> !tell yuri about windowsdrives
[01:04] <kino-tak> anyother p2p software would make it, I just need it for documentation
[01:04] <ltibor65> brenner, I would install with synaptic, bit momentan it don't works.
[01:04] <thoreauputic> yuri_: check your pm
[01:05] <aLeSD> hi all
[01:05] <mojo> now if someone could help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!
[01:05] <mojo> aLeSD: ale and lsd don't mix
[01:05] <kino-tak> so no amule....
[01:05] <mojo> aLeSD: i suggest sticking to the lsd ;)
[01:06] <aLeSD> I have a problem in ubuntu istallation : when Installing base package begins it gives me herror like I cannot find cp or rm command. Anyone could me help^
[01:06] <aLeSD> ?
[01:06] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i have been looking for a p2p program for linux for a while
[01:06] <brenner> ltibor65: bit momentan?
[01:06] <mojo> kino-tak: no amule.  i use something called mldonkey, but it is not that great like it could be
[01:06] <pilgrim> To enable DMA for my HD I would do this  (accoring to ubotu): sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda ...right?
[01:06] <mojo> kino-tak: i heard that you can get a limewire for linux.
[01:06] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i suppose you could run it in wine...
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !limewire
[01:06] <ubotu> somebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:07] <mojo> kino-tak: I use bittorrent for most stuff.  There is a java client called Azureus with a nice interface, or the bittorent client that comes with Ubuntu Breezy
[01:07] <brenner> pilgrim: sounds right
[01:07] <pilgrim> brenner, thanks.
[01:08] <brenner> then you can check with hdparm -d
[01:08] <mojo> kino-tak: mldonkey is a multi-protocol p2p program that runs as a daemon in the background and you talk to it thru a klunky html interface on your local port (127.0.0.1 aka localhost) or use some other front-end
[01:09] <mojo> kino-tak: I have heard that mldonkey is buggy on some of the networks.  I am mostly into freely tradeable music like dead and phish shows anyway
[01:09] <pilgrim> brenner, bad news. looks like it _was_ on before I turned it on. Bad news because speed is not there.
[01:10] <mojo> kino-tak: if you know what p2p NETWORK you want (like Gnutella or ed2k), you can search Synaptic for them by including the descriptions in your search thru the packages.
[01:10] <brenner> pilgrim: eek.  i wouldn't know about that one, sorry.
[01:10] <pilgrim> brenner, it's all good. thanks for your help.
[01:11] <KaRupT> Is there ANYWAY to resize an active partition??
[01:11] <mojo> KaRupT: only if you are really into your name
[01:11] <KaRupT> what does that mean?
[01:11] <pilgrim> mojo, LOL
[01:11] <mojo> you will risk KaRupT data ;)
[01:11] <KaRupT> Its a brand new part im not worried about data loss
[01:12] <mojo> KaRupT: LOL I mean mucking with an active filesystem like that.
[01:12] <KaRupT> I need like a 10Gb chunk thats all
[01:12] <mojo> KaRupT: you absolutely should unmount a filesystem before re-sizing the partition it lives on.
[01:12] <KaRupT> QTparted when I right click on it has resize greyed out
[01:13] <KaRupT> But how can i unmount it when it is the partition that my distro is on?
[01:13] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:13] <mojo> KaRupT: You need to boot to a live cd or something and do it when logged into another root filesystem
[01:13] <KaRupT> ok
[01:13] <mojo> KaRupT: Good luck
[01:13] <rapha> I just installed MySQL via Synaptic, but it doesn't start ... always says to check the system log but that doesn't say anything either :-(
[01:14] <olicat> any ideas why i can ping myself, but can't ping my router?
[01:14] <mojo> Please!  Help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!
[01:14] <erchache> olicat: check cable
[01:14] <mojo> olicat: DHCP or static ip?
[01:14] <iive> olicat, you can always ping yourself
[01:15] <olicat> mojo: static ip
[01:15] <olicat> it's wireless
[01:15] <mojo> olicat: check cable ;)
[01:15] <erchache> rapha: can you see mysqld on ps aux | grep mysql
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mojo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978 help?  You might want to visit ubuntuforums.org, dapper section, a little more often :P
[01:15] <rapha> erchache: nope
[01:15] <mojo> olicat: you could have your stuff misconfigured for subnet
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mojo: use w3m as your web browser, which is CLI
[01:15] <mojo> Hobbsee: w3m?  cool.  better than lynx?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:16] <mojo> Hobbsee: okay lets see if apt will install that or not.
[01:16] <Hobbsee> it should already be on your system...
[01:17] <mojo> Hobbsee: no joy.  i'll have to write it down and reboot to breezy
[01:17] <aLeSD> Mi installation say dpkg(subprocess): failed to exec rm to cleanup.... on installation . ideas?
[01:17] <wizardjames> hello,   today i got a new hdd.  i wish to make my current install of my main hdd (mostly windows with a 15 gig partion for ubuntu)  i want to expan that space to my new hdd.  how would i go about that?..
[01:17] <mojo> Hobbsee: I only just loaded dapper on here 2 days ago and have not had time to play.  first update, upgrade, dist-upgrade since install. :(
[01:18] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:18] <kestas> how can I allow people to su to nobody?
[01:18] <Mabus06> how do I restart x?
[01:19] <robotgeek> Mabus06: ctrl + alt + del
[01:19] <QQ_ghost> Mabus06: ctl-alt-bkspc
[01:19] <thoreauputic> kestas: what on earth for?
[01:19] <aLeSD> kestas...  I think u cannot because nobody doesn't have a shell
[01:19] <robotgeek> QQ_ghost: :)
[01:19] <mojo> Mabus06: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:19] <QQ_ghost> robotgeek: lol
[01:20] <jazwec> hi..i want to start using ubuntu (i have kubuntu now) and i want some tips..like pluses and minuses and so..your experiences with ubuntu..
[01:20] <mojo> robotgeek: no, ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:20] <aLeSD> someone could help me?
[01:20] <kestas> thoreauputic, I run a script which I takes input and doesnt check it very well, basically I dont trust this script so I'd like to run it in an environment where it cant do any real damage
[01:20] <robotgeek> mojo: hmm, okay. one my kb it's del :)
[01:20] <mojo> robotgeek: np, all in fun
[01:20] <robotgeek> aLeSD: could you describe what do u need help with?
[01:20] <QQ_ghost> robotgeek: that restarts the pc...
[01:20] <brenner> jazwec: it's pretty much just gnome and synaptic vs kde and whatever they use :)
[01:20] <wizardjames> hey guys,   got a new hdd today,  how do i go about partiing it so i can store files on it
[01:21] <mojo> wizardjames: gparted or qparted
[01:21] <wizardjames> yeah, i got that far
[01:21] <thoreauputic> kestas: erm...
[01:21] <wizardjames> but then i get alittle lost
[01:21] <EddieDaMan> mojo, can you help me install ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:21] <raptoid> wizardjames, What did you expect to read here?
[01:21] <mojo> wizardjames: g for gtk/gnome, q for qtlib/kde
[01:21] <kestas> thoreauputic, that's what nobody is for right? :|
[01:21] <thoreauputic> kestas: why would you run a scriptyou don't trust?
[01:21] <mojo> EddieDaMan: if i was at your house ;)
[01:21] <EddieDaMan> mojo, i'm having trouble install w32 on ubuntu 5.10
[01:21] <wizardjames> i know..    what type to i format the space into.
[01:22] <aLeSD> in the end I'm tring to install a ubuntu to a win user... and I'm cutting a bad figure
[01:22] <maskd> wizardjames: ext3 works best
[01:22] <kestas> thoreauputic, because it does something I want.. I wrote it myself I trust the script itself, it downloads and parses a website though and the script is open source, there are some holes in it which could allow you to inject an rm -rf ~ command
[01:22] <wizardjames> ok,  ..  um ..may i ask what ext 2 is?
[01:22] <mojo> EddieDaMan: i forget where win32codecs are and am not in a x environment to go search.  try google "win32codecs ubuntu package breezy" if you are on breezy and see what it gets you
[01:22] <mmans> Hi All! Is it possible to start the ubuntu (5.10) install CD and force the installer to first load the AHCI module, before the ATA_PIIX module?
[01:23] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[01:23] <mojo> EddieDaMan: or maybe w32codecs or may be singular not plural, i forget
[01:23] <mojo> Mabus06: any luck?
[01:23] <rapha> Can nobody help me get MySQL to start?
[01:23] <jazwec> brenner i have so much problems with kubuntu..for example my computer stays on when i want to shutdown..codecs wont install..burning is too slow..and many many more
[01:23] <kino-tak> I say, nobody is using and amule or p2p software here?!?
[01:24] <nick_> yes, I reconfiured x to use less resolution
[01:24] <KyKo> I just install ubuntu hoary and I want VLC... apt-cache search vlc yields no results... so I will download it from the site... can I get the one precompiled for Debian or do I need to get the source code?
[01:24] <jazwec> brenner and the biggest problem is that kubuntu has no support in my country..only ubuntu
[01:24] <mojo> kino-tak: i told ya i use mldonkey and azureus
[01:24] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: only on my win partition...
[01:24] <maskd> wizardjames: ext3 is the type of partition, linux equivilant to ntfs
[01:24] <kino-tak> sorry mojo, I didnt see that
[01:24] <wizardjames> i see, cool.. i havent had much time to read alot of stuff.
[01:24] <mojo> kino-tak: someone else said limewire is a java client so you can run it on java after installing java
[01:24] <aLeSD> how could I have a better log in installation time ?
[01:25] <wizardjames> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <link to get the w32codics stuff
[01:25] <kino-tak> QQ-ghst, you think p2p under linux is not good?
[01:25] <brenner> ubotu: tell EddieDaMan about w32codecs
[01:25] <thedom_> Has anyone had much experience with LTSP and PXE booting?
[01:25] <Mabus06> How do I mount .iso files?
[01:25] <mojo> !p2p
[01:25] <ubotu> from memory, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[01:25] <brenner> jazwec: what do you mean kubuntu has no support?
[01:25] <mjr> Mabus06, sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt
[01:25] <mojo> !tell kino-tak about p2p
[01:25] <aLeSD> Mobus06 -o loop if I remember good
[01:26] <brenner> jazwec: and i doubt at least 2 of those probs are kubuntu's fault
[01:26] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i love FOSS, and love a good gui, so i use shareaza in win (but only til i get wine going)
[01:26] <ROBOd> hey guys
[01:26] <ROBOd> i've installed XFCE 4
[01:26] <aLeSD> Mobus06: and u have to have the option in the kernel
[01:26] <thedom_> No? Ah well, not to worry.
[01:26] <robotgeek> thedom_: i have some idea abt PXE booting
[01:26] <aLeSD> help!
[01:26] <ROBOd> and the only thing I want from it ... is the Debian menu
[01:26] <ROBOd> how can I put it in Gnome?
[01:26] <kino-tak> I see QQ, i just need it for documentation (Cisco manuals and stuff), can you find it there?
[01:27] <mojo> aLeSD: loop mounts work on the ubuntu kernels
[01:27] <maskd> ROBOd, what things are in the debian menu?
[01:27] <kino-tak> FOSS=?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: install menu and menu-xdg ,  update-menus
[01:27] <thedom_> robotgeek: Ah, wonderful :) I was wondering if you could offer any tips: My thin clients just all say tftp: File not found, yet as far as I can see the files are placed correctly.
[01:27] <ROBOd> maskd: more than in my Gnome, some of them are menu items for packages I installed ... which i didn't see in Gnome Applications menu
[01:27] <jazwec> brenner i had other linux distros /mandrake, fedora/ and everything was allright..and then somebody told my that kubuntu is good and i installed it...and that support problem..im from czech and here are only sites about ubuntu...also forums and so..
[01:28] <EddieDaMan> thanks brenner
[01:28] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: Free-Open-Source-Software
[01:28] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to use that?
[01:28] <robotgeek> thedom_: specify the mac address in your dhcp server?
[01:28] <funkyHat> Seveas, I don't think the pastebin script is working...
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: just install them and you will have debian menus
[01:28] <maskd> ROBOd: You could always manually add the items to the gnome menu by copying their commands
[01:28] <thedom_> No I didn't....should I? I've only put in the IPs.
[01:28] <kino-tak> Thanks QQ
[01:29] <brenner> jazwec: your english is pretty good.  i'm sure the people in #kubuntu could help you
[01:29] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: shareaza get's on gnutella 1 & 2, and e-donkey 2k
[01:29] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to install them? and which packages exactly? :)
[01:29] <maskd> reckon the VLC for dapper would work with breezy? it's much better
[01:29] <Mabus06> my synaptic or updates won't open
[01:29] <ROBOd> sorry i'm a semi-beginner :(
[01:29] <Mabus06> any ideas?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: I told you actually
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ROBOd:  sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[01:29] <maskd> Mabus06: does it say it's loading on the bottom panel and then nothing happens?
[01:30] <Mabus06> yeah
[01:30] <maskd> are = at
[01:30] <kino-tak> QQ, apt-get install shareaza?
[01:30] <maskd> Mabus06: if you sudo synaptic does it work?
[01:30] <maskd> in terminal
[01:30] <kino-tak> ROBOd, Me2
[01:30] <mmans> Or is it possible to start the ubuntu installer with ata_piix completly disabled?
[01:31] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: no, there is no port for shareaza that i could find...
[01:31] <kino-tak> I see
[01:31] <Mabus06> unable to get lock, maskd
[01:31] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: thanks dude, i got it now :P!
[01:31] <maskd> QQ_ghost: you could try limewire or some other p2p program, and if your using it for bittorrent there are way better programs out there
[01:31] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: OK :) You'll need the universe repository enabled
[01:31] <mojo> ttfn all, gotta boot out!  peace on men and goodwill toward earth!
[01:31] <jazwec> brenner thanks..i will try that first..
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: but "synaptic" for wine, then install shareaza in wine...
[01:32] <maskd> Mabus06: i have no idea, maybe try and restart gdm
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> !limewire
[01:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:32] <maskd> Mabus06: ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:32] <kino-tak> QQ synaptic is like Wine? I mean, you can run win apps under it?
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> l8er mojo
[01:33] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: already had it :)
[01:33] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: now ... how to easily add menu items? :)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: OK then :)
[01:33] <brenner> kino-tak: nope. it's a package mgr.  nothing to do with emulation
[01:33] <Liothen> if X crashes and doesn't come back or hangs do "ctrl+alt+f1" login to your account then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:33] <doojin> hi
[01:34] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: no, "synaptic" is the gui for apt-get i guess, and wine is just a compatibility layer for running windows apps in linux
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: it should happen automatically - run update-menus (or update-menu I forget)
[01:34] <funkyHat> Liothen, ctrl+alt+backspace is just as good isn't it?
[01:34] <hoth> hello all. how do I add search paths for shared libs in ubuntu? I think I had something in /etc/ld.conf (or something like that) in my previous debian (followed by running 'ldconfig'), what's the equivalent in ubuntu?
[01:34] <Liothen> funkyHat. sometiems gdm hangs and doesnt restart
[01:34] <maskd> funkyHat: gdm restart is a more "elegant" way of doing it
[01:34] <doojin> maskd : hi
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: anything you install should get added to the debian menu
[01:34] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: that worked .. i got Debian menu now :)
[01:34] <maskd> hi doojin
[01:34] <doojin> maskd : do you use a messenger?
[01:34] <ShadowWRK> guys, i have a question about installing ubuntu
[01:34] <funkyHat> maskd, yes ;) but if gdm has already hung... ;)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: :)
[01:34] <maskd> doojin: like msn messenger?
[01:35] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: but ... i still want to have my other stuff in it ...
[01:35] <doojin> maskd : yes
[01:35] <maskd> doojin: yeah i do
[01:35] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: no-one can answer it if you don't ask first =)
[01:35] <Liothen> funkyHat. my friends pc was haivng problems with this when he did the bksp command while in gnome... it works fine when in fluxbox for me
[01:35] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to add my own custom menu items? :)
[01:35] <[-SiO-] > does anyone think setting up ASUS AX700 PRO (grafix card using the ati radion x700 chipset) would be a pain?
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> ok.. thanks apokryphos
[01:35] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: well either use the gnome menu editor or install alacarte
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> here's the thing. i have windows xp and recently bought an external 400 gig drive
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> is there any way to install ubuntu to run off a partition on that drive?
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> i want to double boot
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: dual-boot, of course.
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> windows xp is already installed..
[01:36] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: gnome-menu-editor ..
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> ok, so whats my next step? just boot off the ubuntu dvd?
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: more than half the users in here dual-boot, I'd say.
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> cool
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: best shot is to partition it, and install Windoze first, then Linux
[01:36] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: try typing "smeg"  no quotes :)
[01:37] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: because XP is evil and overwrites the MBR without listing Linux as a bootable option. There's way to fix it later, but it's more of a hassle.
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> ok.. think it'll be better if i repartition the SATA drive? right now it has a 10gig xp partition
[01:37] <funkyHat> apokryphos, he's already got XP installed
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> gotcha
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> xp is already installed
[01:37] <apokryphos> ah, ok
[01:37] <wizardjames> how do i um...mount a ext3 partion on a new hdd i just made?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: it's installed by default in breezy - Simple Menu Editor for Gnome
[01:37] <Draken> guys, is it possable to be in ubuntu, access my NTFS drive and PLAY a movie/mp3 off it ?
[01:37] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: sure, you can install it on a partition now. Ubuntu DVD/CD -- both good.
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> yes draken
[01:37] <wizardjames> Draken,  yes
[01:37] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Draken about ntfs
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> i have the dvd, i was playing around with it a few weeks ago
[01:37] <brenner> [-SiO-] : somewhat.  you'd probably have to use the official ati.com driver rather than the one in the repos to get dri working.  and that can be a bit fiddly
[01:37] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: yeah, but i can't copy menu items LOL
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> so i just boot off it... ill make a fat32 partition just in case on the primary sata drive
[01:38] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: apt-get install alacarte ?
[01:38] <Draken> thanks cool
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: I don't follow you
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> now another question
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> what's this nonsense about ubuntu not having any development tools (heard it from a friend who runs debian)
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> he says i wont be able to download/compile proggies, other than executables
[01:38] <funkyHat> well... nonsense
[01:38] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: i see the menu items ... i want to move some of them in other places ... or even copy ...
[01:38] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: you install one package that pulls in all the things you'd need to build most standard things
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> nonsense?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: it has them - you just install them just like debian - build-essential
[01:39] <raphink> ShadowWRK: totally nonsense
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> apt-get in other words
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> thought so..
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> thanks
[01:39] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: the package is on the dvd/cd, too (just not installed by default).
[01:39] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: smeg only allows edit/delete/add (not copy/cut)
[01:39] <wizardjames> mounting a ext3 partion..    how do i go about this?
[01:39] <ROBOd> is alacarte better?
[01:39] <Liothen> ShadowWRK. you can sitll compile apps... its just easier using apt-get
[01:39] <apokryphos> wizardjames: permanently? Create an fstab entry
[01:40] <doojin> maskd ; you there?
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> yes  , of course.. compiling is only for the times i cant find a binary
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: it's just not installed by default, but of course it's avaialable
[01:40] <wizardjames> how about just temp,
[01:40] <maskd> doojin: yeah for some reason gaim 1.5 opened instead of 2.0...
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> raphink- how would i install it if i wanted
[01:40] <wizardjames> then i will do a fstab later
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: alacarte is better - but I never felt the need to copy/cut so I don't know if it does what you want
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> ahh.. ok i get it
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: that install the basic required packages for development
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> same as debian in other words
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> yep
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: exactly ;)
[01:41] <jazwec> brenner could you just help me with one thing? i want to resize my ext3 partition..without loosing data
[01:41] <apokryphos> wizardjames: sudo mount /dev/hdaX /media/somefolder -t ext3 -o umask=000
[01:41] <funkyHat> ShadowWRK, yeah, your friend is probably just jealous of ubuntu for some bizarre reason ;)
[01:41] <brenner> ShadowWRK: you can tell tell him/her off now
[01:41] <brenner> :)
[01:41] <QQ_ghost> wizardjames: mount -t auto /dev/(partition) /mnt/(mountpoint)
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> he mentioned fragmenting the community or some stuff
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> whatever that means.
[01:41] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: more nonsense
[01:41] <raphink> fragmenting the community?
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> hes a die-hard debian user, i guess
[01:42] <funkyHat> Sounds like it
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> he said ubuntu is causing fragmentation of the debian community :)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: the Ubuntu devs are often also debian devs
[01:42] <raphink> ShadowWRK: look at the devs's profiles around on ubuntu. most of them are die-hard debian devs.
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> lol
[01:42] <apokryphos> all of the core ubuntu devs are debian ones, yup.
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> k.. perfect, thanks for the answers folks
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: and stuff flows upstream to debian
[01:42] <raphink> ShadowWRK: so far, ubuntu is causing improvement of the Debian system
[01:42] <raphink> ;)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: also most sensible debian people welcome ubuntu and co-operate with it
[01:43] <Ticho> i hear DDs wear "I'm not an Ubuntu dev" t-shirts on DD gatherings, though :>
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> exactly
[01:43] <QQ_ghost> so is ubuntu a friendly fork of debian?
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> i loved ubuntu when playing with the live dvd
[01:43] <apokryphos> raphink: ian disagrees
[01:43] <brenner> jazwec: i couldn't walk you through it.  my guess is you should use gparted/qtparted.  apparently, you need to unmount the partition you wish to resize (i.e. it can't be active
[01:43] <johnnybezak> debian devs are bitter
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> cant wait to install it for dual booting..
[01:43] <apokryphos> we're friendly, and we mean wel, but not all debian users see it that way (and neither does the debian founder)
[01:43] <ROBOd> how to install TTF fonts?
[01:43] <johnnybezak> because shuttleworth is a pragmatist
[01:43] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: frindly yes - fork not really
[01:43] <johnnybezak> ROBOd: you mean the ms ones?
[01:44] <jazwec> brenner but how? im using it right now..maybe with kubuntu live cd? or i dont know...
[01:44] <ROBOd> johnnybezak: i already got those
[01:44] <thoreauputic> !info msttcorefonts
[01:44] <johnnybezak> ROBOd: k
[01:44] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:44] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: just a few script/eyecandy changes then?
[01:44] <maskd> Why dislike anything free?
[01:44] <ROBOd> johnnybezak: i mean ... TTF fonts of mine ;) ...
[01:44] <apokryphos> it is technically a clear fork
[01:44] <ROBOd> how to add mine?
[01:44] <johnnybezak> raphink: y not? were you a debian fan boi? :)
[01:44] <mwe> ROBOd: if you got the ttf file just put it in the ttf fonts dir
[01:44] <apokryphos> QQ_ghost: a lot more. The whole repositories are different.
[01:45] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: more than that - but ubuntu syncs with sid every 6 months
[01:45] <brenner> jazwec: yes.  with the live cd iirc.  but i've never done it so i couldn't walk you through as i said before
[01:45] <johnnybezak> anyone here use rat poison
[01:45] <ROBOd> mwe: where's the fonts dir?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: only on rats ;)
[01:45] <apokryphos> mepis, for example, has a far closer with debian
[01:45] <ShadowWRK> arsenic?
[01:45] <raphink> johnnybezak: yep, and I was afraid Ubuntu would act like Linspire and Xandros do when it was first released. Then I understood that Ubuntu is the only Debian-based project that respects the Debian way.
[01:45] <brenner> could someone pls help jazwec with resizing a partition?
[01:45] <ShadowWRK> ive used it to kill insects
[01:45] <apokryphos> which perhaps has caused its lack of success, really.
[01:45] <mwe> ROBOd: the trutype fonts dir is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[01:45] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: kewl, was just wonderin', thanx
[01:45] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: haha
[01:45] <maskd> Shudder; linspire
[01:45] <maskd> i actually used that for a day
[01:45] <johnnybezak> ShadowWRK: nope its a window manager like gnu screen
[01:45] <maskd> it was uninstalled straight away
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> hah
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> oh nah
[01:46] <johnnybezak> raphink: yeah
[01:46] <johnnybezak> maskd: good for noobs though
[01:46] <jazwec> brenner yeah..btw i dont know why..but i have now problems with starting applications..icon is jumping near my cursor for a while..and then it just do nothing
[01:46] <raphink> johnnybezak: now I develop for ubuntu, so you guess I don't think so anymore ;)
[01:46] <QQ_ghost> he just said linspire. hahahahaha
[01:46] <johnnybezak> raphink: haha obviously not
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> linspire = lindows?
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> lol
[01:46] <Jaymac> yes
[01:46] <raphink> ShadowWRK: yes
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> hehehe
[01:46] <johnnybezak> ShadowWRK: yep
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> what a joke ;)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: a lot of us come from debian backgrounds and all of us have tremendous respect for debian
[01:47] <raphink> ShadowWRK: they had to change their names, after being sued by MS
[01:47] <brenner> jazwec: not sure of that either.  but is it happening with all apps?
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> raphink - i know, i remember when they changed their name
[01:47] <funkyHat> I use both debian and ubuntu. IMO they are better at different things
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> thoreauputic;  i have a lot of respect for debian, just happen to really like ubuntu :)
[01:47] <raphink> ShadowWRK: a big part of our work in universe is to merge Debian packages in Ubuntu and help merge Ubuntu packages in Debian.
[01:47] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: right, like all of us here :)
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> cool
[01:47] <Jaymac> anyone tried suns looking glass 3d?
[01:47] <Jaymac> it's interesting
[01:47] <maskd> I used debian as my first linux os, i liked it and got it to work, but couldnt figure out how to get mp3's to work, so i went back to windows
[01:48] <raphink> ShadowWRK: we want to improve the whole thing, while keeping as cloes to Debian as possible.
[01:48] <ShadowWRK> nice
[01:48] <funkyHat> And I like ubuntu's sudo/root password setup so I make my debian systems use it too ;)
[01:48] <raphink> Jaymac: looking glass sux
[01:48] <ShadowWRK> my first *nix was slackware on a 486
[01:48] <Jaymac> i didn't say it was good.. i said it was interesting
[01:48] <jazwec> brenner no with all..k3b is working..but for example bittornado, vlc, audacity
[01:48] <Jaymac> perhaps we'll see a few ideas incorporated into either KDE or Gnome sometime
[01:48] <Jaymac> although KDE would be more likely
[01:48] <Seveas> Can we please stop the offtopic talk and go back to UBuntu support, kthxbye
[01:48] <raphink> Jaymac: sure, and there are other 3D desktops projects that are interesting.
[01:48] <funkyHat> raphink, Jaymac, It's a very very good idea, and looks nice, it's just a shame about the language it's written in
[01:49] <brenner> jazwec: hmm, try running them in a terminal.  you might get some errors
[01:49] <olicat> whats the quickest way of copying files over a local wireless network?
[01:49] <maskd> Anybody used SphereXP, lol.
[01:49] <Seveas> olicat, scp
[01:49] <raphink> olicat: scp
[01:49] <olicat> cheers
[01:49] <raphink> using ssh
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> which is the default windowing environment that ubuntu uses? kde or gnome?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> olicat: scp probably
[01:49] <maskd> gnome
[01:49] <Seveas> ShadowWRK, gnome
[01:49] <Morrowyn> how do i turn off the pulsating thing in my application bar in gnome, xmms keep pulsating , which is annoying
[01:49] <Jaymac> gnome
[01:49] <maskd> kubuntu is kde
[01:49] <Jaymac> kubuntu is kde
[01:49] <raphink> ShadowWRK: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu
[01:49] <Jaymac> bah  beaten to it twice :)
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> ahhh
[01:49] <Seveas> Kubuntu is the KDE based deivative, Xubuntu XFCE
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> i prefer gnome
[01:49] <maskd> Jaymac: :)
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> gotcha
[01:49] <ordicasse> hi
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> i was wondering what kubuntu was
[01:50] <Seveas> hi ordicasse
[01:50] <raphink> hi ordicasse
[01:50] <Jaymac> didnt the K give it away? ;)
[01:50] <Morrowyn> :)
[01:50] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: hmm, one sec.
[01:50] <ShadowWRK> heh, i guess it went over my head
[01:50] <ShadowWRK> <= has a fever
[01:50] <maskd> Seriously, i don't know how I lived without workspaces
[01:50] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[01:50] <ROBOd> gotta go
[01:50] <raphink> ShadowWRK: anyway, ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are not different system, they only diff by a few packages and can be turned to one another.
[01:50] <ROBOd> bye
[01:51] <maskd> cya ROBOd
[01:51] <ShadowSick> i understand
[01:51] <thoreauputic> ShadowSick: some wit suggested we should have a fluxbox ubuntu called "flubuntu" ;-)
[01:51] <ShadowSick> hehehehe
[01:51] <Morrowyn> robotgeek ok :)
[01:51] <raphink> thoreauputic: we'd need an enlightenment one, too :)
[01:51] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: i know how to do this, it's just been a long while :)
[01:51] <Seveas> raphink, Ebuntu
[01:51] <raphink> Seveas: :)
[01:51] <maskd> I don't like the look of enlightenment
[01:51] <ordicasse> my ubuntu is broken and I don't understand why... When I boot with the LiveCD to open Gparted, it says that my /dev/hda3 (the main linux partition) has an unknown filesystem, what can I do to repair it ?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> rapha: Ebuntu ?
[01:51] <brenner> maskd: one of my favourite irks as well!
[01:51] <maskd> it's just too pretty
[01:51] <raphink> there's Gnubuntu going on, too
[01:52] <mendy> I need some help with install.
[01:52] <Morrowyn> ok, take your time, at least i know i can remove it :)
[01:52] <Seveas> ordicasse, sudo fdisk -l
[01:52] <Seveas> ordicasse, output on the pastebin
[01:52] <redguy|work> gnubuntu? with gnustep?
[01:52] <aLeSD> I  hate you
[01:52] <thoreauputic> redguy|work: no it's the pure RMS version :)
[01:52] <raphink> redguy|work: gnubuntu is a project with the fsf
[01:52] <maskd> i wonder who he was hating there
[01:52] <mcscruff> i have a folder thats set to root privilidges, how can i make it so it isnt.. and also all subfolders and files
[01:52] <raphink> thoreauputic: ;)
[01:52] <munzir> HI sirs, glxgears in ubuntu doesn't print the fps, what's the problem please?
[01:52] <Seveas> mcscruff, sudo chown -R
[01:53] <raphink> thoreauputic: pure RMS version means Ubuntu GNU/Hurd of course ;)
[01:53] <Morrowyn> how come firefox 1.5 isnt in the package db ?
[01:53] <Seveas> mcscruff, man chown
[01:53] <redguy|work> ah!
[01:53] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: it's in dapper
[01:53] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, with herd? ;)
[01:53] <mendy> I'm trying to install ubuntu and it's getting stuck
[01:53] <brenner> munzir: you have to use the option: man glxgears
[01:53] <Seveas> Morrowyn, because it breaks too much
[01:53] <Morrowyn> munzir, run it from a terminal
[01:53] <funkyHat> *hurd haha
[01:53] <squid0> mendy, what's up?
[01:53] <mendy> It's getting stuck by AGP
[01:53] <munzir> Brendon, there is no man glxgears here
[01:53] <thoreauputic> rapha: heheh - right - we might be waiting a while for taht one ;)
[01:53] <Morrowyn> ok, so when thats fixed, ill see it appearing in ubuntu right?
[01:53] <mendy> I can't get passed it
[01:53] <munzir> Morrowyn, this is what I am doing but still nothing
[01:53] <Morrowyn> hmmm
[01:53] <raphink> thoreauputic: heh, I had the Hurd/Mach work on Debian GNU/Hurd last year
[01:53] <brenner> yeah, just noticed sorry
[01:54] <munzir> Morrowyn, do it work for you?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> raphink: cool - was it stable and good?
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: I'd even say it was easier for me to install Debian GNU/Hurd than Gentoo :p
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: it was unusable, but it worked :p
[01:54] <Seveas> raphink, rofl :)
[01:54] <ordicasse> Seveas: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6324
[01:54] <raphink> loooool
[01:54] <thoreauputic> rapha: that isn't saying much is it?
[01:54] <iive> hello, do you know how to upgrade packages that are "The following packages have been kept back:" even when i make apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:54] <Morrowyn> nope, doesnt feed me fps, but mine runs awefully slow :-/
[01:54] <brenner> i seriously remember there being an option though
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: Debian GNU/Hurd/Mach was a pain in the neck for speed
[01:55] <raphink> thoreauputic: hopefully, GNU/Hurd/L4 is going to be far faster
[01:55] <visik7> anybody using liferea ?
[01:55] <mendy> I'm having an install problem can someone help?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> rapha: ah - interesting
[01:55] <wizardjames> ok..  question:  made a new ext partion, inside of it when i mount it . it has a lost+found   ..thing   what is this?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> visik7: yes
[01:55] <mcscruff> seveas: i have never used the command :( i the folder is called "Music" how do i fully write it?
[01:55] <visik7> thoreauputic: have you the endgadget rss ???
[01:55] <Seveas> ordicasse: Partition table entries are not in disk order, i guess gparted borks on that
[01:55] <mwe> mendy: maybe if you tell us what the problem is
[01:55] <robotgeek> visik7: yes
[01:55] <visik7> robotgeek: which question ?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> visik7: I don't even know what that is :)
[01:55] <Seveas> mcscruff, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER mcscruff
[01:55] <robotgeek> visik7: i use liferea
[01:56] <visik7> robotgeek: have you the engadget rss ?
[01:56] <mendy> I installed and when coming up for the first time it's getting stuck on the hotswap part
[01:56] <mcscruff> thankyou
[01:56] <ordicasse> Seveas: when I switch on my computer it tries to load GRUB and then says "error 24"
[01:56] <mevvis> tai sutvarkem ta kaitima
[01:56] <mevvis> nebekaista
[01:56] <mendy> So I booted in safe mode and I see it's getting stuck by agpgart
[01:56] <robotgeek> visik7: no, i'm not on my usual ubuntu too. so i odon't have access to liferea, sorry
[01:56] <Seveas> mevvis, english please
[01:56] <mendy> AGP aperture
[01:56] <mevvis> beda buvo 0.13A
[01:56] <visik7> robotgeek: :/
[01:56] <wza> how link php5 to apache2? gettin' 'save as' prompt when trying to load php files atm
[01:56] <mendy> I can't bring up ubuntu
[01:56] <rapha> thoreauputic: Got it working ... apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 :-)
[01:56] <rapha> Thanks!
[01:56] <rapha> Bye!
[01:56] <mendy> But the install went clean
[01:56] <mevvis> o
[01:56] <mevvis> sorry
[01:56] <mendy> So what do I do now?
[01:57] <mendy> It's a p4 computer
[01:57] <mendy> a new one with a 3g processor
[01:57] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: SystemTools -> Configuration Editor
[01:57] <ordicasse> Seveas: I can mount /dev/hda1 which is windows, but I can't mount the two other Linux partitions /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6 is the swap
[01:57] <mendy> What is causing the hangup? I have know idea
[01:57] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources -> Set True
[01:58] <Morrowyn> ok
[01:58] <wizardjames> anyone,  i made a new ext3 partion, mounted it. and theres this lost+found   file init..  what is this?
[01:59] <maskd> wizardjames: you can delete it
[01:59] <munzir> brenner, Morrowyn: ok I found it, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:59] <wizardjames> o ok, so its just junk.. kk
[01:59] <Morrowyn> thanks robotgeek , it was kinda getting on my nerves :)
[01:59] <Morrowyn> lol :) munzir
[02:00] <brenner> munzir: lol, good point.  but i'm sure i remember someone asked before
[02:00] <brenner> maybe it was with fglrxgears though
[02:00] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: i kinda like that feature for gaim an stuff
[02:01] <Morrowyn> :)
[02:02] <ordicasse> Seveas: do you have a solution ?
[02:02] <robzon> anyone using dapper drake yet? :)
[02:02] <robotgeek> robzon: yes
[02:02] <maskd> robzon: i was but i screwed it, so im back to good old breezy
[02:02] <trae> I've got a "Blank DVD+R Disc" icon on my desktop that won't go away even after the disc has been ejected.  (and another different disc was inserted)
[02:02] <maskd> only thing im missing is vlc :(
[02:03] <robzon> robotgeek: is it stable enough to use it as a chat/email machine?
[02:03] <jvNET> hello guys, what the terminal command to run Applications Menu Editor? it wont show up even I rebooted several times
[02:03] <ompaul> robzon, it is in development this means that if you choose to use it it may break tomorrow or the next day and you have to wait for others to fix it - breezy is stable
[02:03] <robzon> vlc? is it used as a default player in dapper drake?
[02:03] <maskd> nah
[02:03] <maskd> totem is
[02:03] <brenner> jvNET: smeg
[02:03] <maskd> but i like vlc
[02:03] <robotgeek> robzon: sure :)
[02:04] <jvNET> thanks
[02:04] <robzon> maskd: so why don't you use it on breezy? ;)
[02:04] <robotgeek> robzon: though, you must not have dependency on X :)
[02:04] <maskd> robzon: cuz the version for breezy isnt very good, it was updated on dapper
[02:05] <hypn0> is there a how to for compiling stuff
[02:05] <robzon> robotgeek: well.. i can always use irssi when X goes crazy ;) or ask in this channel if everything's ok with current snapshot, before I decide to upgrade packages ;)
[02:05] <robotgeek> maskd: if you want the gtk version, get it from backports
[02:05] <pawel> hypn0: what do you mean?
[02:05] <robotgeek> robzon: yes, irssi is what i use all the time :)
[02:06] <ompaul> !compiling
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:06] <hypn0> i get missing stdio.h error pawel
[02:06] <pawel> then that link should do.
[02:07] <hypn0> k, thx
[02:07] <Morrowyn> whats a good gnome cd burn program?
[02:07] <Morrowyn> or should i go with k3b ...?
[02:08] <ompaul> Morrowyn, nautilyus works for me
[02:08] <onispawn> Morrowyn: I like k3b, but a lot of people like gnomebaker
[02:08] <robzon> ah there's that annoying stroke width bug in inkscape 0.42... dapper drake has 0.43 already, maybe it's fixed there.. hmm
[02:08] <ompaul> Morrowyn, nautilus even
[02:08] <Morrowyn> ok
[02:08] <mendy> What's the hotplug subsystem?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: graveman is good too
[02:08] <ompaul> mendy, how the machine handles devices
[02:08] <mendy> My computer is not coming up it's getting stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem"
[02:08] <Morrowyn> well i need to be able to burn iso's and drag and drop my files to make data cd's and occasionally make an audio cd from mp3's
[02:09] <maskd> oh i do like synaptic, so easy to use
[02:09] <Mabus06> how do you make a user sudo enabled?
[02:09] <torbjorn> a recent kernel upgrade, also involginv gcc 3.3 -> 4.0 upgrade causes the computer no longer to boot, is that a known or expected problem?
[02:09] <ompaul> mendy, did it ever work?
[02:09] <maskd> Mabus06: just type sudo
[02:09] <mendy> It's the first time I'm bringing it up after an install
[02:09] <maskd> then the command
[02:09] <mendy> No,.
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Merreither k3b or gnomabaker
[02:09] <veriz> is it possible to allow all ports with router and then administer them with iptables?
[02:09] <Mabus06> maskd... to make an account have sudo privileges
[02:09] <mendy> I just finished installing
[02:09] <thoreauputic> bah bad tab complete sorry
[02:09] <mendy> It's stuck on the hotplug subsystem
[02:10] <mendy> any ideas?
[02:10] <Mabus06> do you have usb devices or a nvidia card in?
[02:10] <wizardjames> how do i copy all files from one area to another?
[02:11] <maskd> Mabus06: I think it's in System > Administraion > Users and Groups
[02:11] <maskd> select properties on the user and go to the user priveledges tab
[02:11] <thoreauputic> wizardjames: in GUI or CLI ?
[02:11] <mendy> ompaul, do you know anything about installs?
[02:11] <maskd> and check executing system administration tasks
[02:11] <wizardjames> ..um..    with a line?
[02:12] <Junior|> Hello. Is it possible to build an install cd with support for ITE821x cards on it?
[02:12] <maskd> wizardjames: cp -R /folder/ /folder/
[02:12] <torbjorn> should wrong gcc version prevent a system from booting?
[02:12] <ompaul> mendy, okay it looks like a bad install, I suggest the following, reinstall this time when the initial boot stops type "server" on the prompt line on the install cd (about 10 or so seconds in) after that base install at the command line type >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< and asking me only delayed the answer - you should always give people a chance as you do not know how complex the answer is or what they have to research :-)
[02:12] <mwe> torbjorn: no
[02:12] <Morrowyn> ill try both nautilus and gnomebaker, see what i like
[02:12] <wizardjames> thanks..will try
[02:13] <torbjorn> mwe: thanks
[02:13] <Morrowyn> i dont wanna have kdelibs on my system, until i really really really need them
[02:13] <flames> hello, how can i add ~/bin to my default paths?
[02:13] <mendy> Thanks ompaul
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: then install gnomebaker
[02:13] <ompaul> mendy, :-)
[02:13] <Morrowyn> i just did :)
[02:13] <Trym> hi
[02:13] <Viper12> welp, I've been lurkin.........but just had to pop in to say one thing.  an x86 install of breezy + Automatix just saved me over 4 hours fartin' around.  MAN what a cool app for ubuntu! :)
[02:14] <ompaul> !automatix
[02:14] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[02:14] <antix> can I get out of gdm and get to text-mode? my login does not work. it stops on "window manager"... ctrl-alt-backspace only gets me back to gdm...
[02:14] <Viper12> lmao the ubotu can kissa mah butt. lmao
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: I quite like graveman too - but not for music CDs
[02:14] <mwe> !automatix
[02:14] <Morrowyn> ok\
[02:14] <ompaul> Viper12, there is a thing called easyubuntu which is better for that
[02:14] <Morrowyn> well 90% of my time its burning iso's
[02:14] <Trym> who does know about the pppoeconf bug?
[02:14] <Morrowyn> just want to be able to drag and drop the iso and burn it
[02:15] <Viper12> i've used easyubuntu on a laptop.  tried them both as a comparison.  guess which one I liked better? -grin.
[02:15] <brenner> are kubuntu and ubuntu repos the same?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: which nautilus does fine
[02:15] <mjr> brenner, yes
[02:15] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[02:15] <Viper12> lol
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: in fact for ISOs just right click
[02:15] <rohan> hi all
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: there's a burn option in the context menu
[02:16] <antix> what do I need to install to get a functioning gnome environment?
[02:16] <Junior|> antix: ctrl-alt-f1
[02:16] <Morrowyn> :)
[02:16] <mjr> antix, ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <Morrowyn> thats nice
[02:16] <rohan> rar on ubuntu can handle password protected rar archives ?
[02:16] <antix> Junior|, yes that normally works but does nothing on that machine.. :(
[02:16] <wizardjames> maskd,  how long does this take..  its around 5-7 gigs of data..     its been going for around 40 secs..    this normal?
[02:16] <Morrowyn> i really like ubuntu so far
[02:16] <Viper12> I'm curious though, why is the bot screaming about auto?  It seems well positioned in the forums as a good solution....with pages of compliments.
[02:16] <Morrowyn> especially the gnome, it reminds me of osx
[02:16] <mwe> wizardjames: dma is enabled?
[02:16] <Morrowyn> in some ways, not all
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: or you can type burn:/// in the location field in nautilus and drag stuff there
[02:17] <Morrowyn> wow
[02:17] <wizardjames> um, yea last time i checked
[02:17] <Trym> bye
[02:17] <ompaul> Trym, check launchpad.net for reports
[02:17] <ordicasse> my system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), is there an application that can rescue my datas from the two linux partition ?
[02:17] <rohan> !rar
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[02:17] <Morrowyn> now i just need to install the eclipse and neverwinternights and im all fine and dandy :)
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: or use the "Go" menu :)
[02:18] <Morrowyn> lol
[02:18] <mwe> wizardjames: are you copying to a different drive?
[02:18] <Viper12> mwe, it depends......I've YET to see dma turned on for cdrom/dvd/burners on the installs I've done as a default.  I've always had to manually turn it on.
[02:18] <wizardjames> its same drive to same drive..but..  its nfts to ext3
[02:18] <mwe> Viper12: yeah
[02:18] <ompaul> Viper12, when things break where do people turn to? why do you think it ended up like that?
[02:19] <Viper12> ompaul?
[02:19] <mwe> Viper12: well it was on for my cd-rw drive as well as the hdd
[02:19] <Junior|> does anyone have an ITE8211/8212 driver built for 2.6.12 ?
[02:19] <Draken> guys, can i format the drive for linux IN the install cd setup
[02:19] <ompaul> Viper12, you asked about the bot shouting
[02:19] <Draken> or is it done else were ?
[02:19] <Morrowyn> i read xorg6.9 and 7.0 were released, any idea when its in the ubuntu stuff?
[02:19] <zwnj> anyone knows if vmware package exist in .tar.* or .deb?
[02:19] <Junior|> i don't have a linux up and running, since the installer doesn't find my drives, so i can't compile it myself
[02:19] <visik7> Draken: yes u can
[02:19] <Draken> k ta
[02:19] <Junior|> zwnj: vmware is commercial
[02:20] <ompaul> Draken, you can, it would be easier with a live CD
[02:20] <Viper12> ompaul, ahhh..........well it does have its caveats and 'don't do's in the forum posting right off the bat.  I guess.........let the user beware...but for a clean install to x86 desktop, that was an amazingly good experience for me.l
[02:20] <mwe> wizardjames: it's still copying? well you know you can always check if dma is on with hdparm /dev/hda? asuming hda is your hdd
[02:20] <bonez> hey ... just a simple ownership question quys... if a users belongs to a group (not primary) he should be able to Delete etc a file that is owned by said group (with premission set to 775) right??
[02:20] <Viper12> of course I've installed ubuntu about 50 times the old fashioned way, so I wouldn't be here whining if it didn't work...lol.  I'd just go fix it.
[02:20] <zwnj> Junior|: i know, but i got the RPM version and Alien did wrong on converting to DEB.  I used to have a .tar.gz on vmware 4.5
[02:20] <wizardjames> sdb is..but i will check
[02:21] <ompaul> Viper12, and how often do people just jump in with both feet to find that the water actually is over their head?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> bonez: I would think so yes
[02:21] <bonez> me to ;) .. just dont work it seems
[02:22] <bonez> nothing to do with the group not being the users primary group ?
[02:22] <ys76> I am looking for a reliable backup-soluton for about 60 servers (sorry, bust mostly win) which is really easy to use (due to my win-admins) - Anybody?
[02:22] <mwe> zwnj: why did you get the rpm version instead of the tgz one?
[02:22] <Viper12> best way to learn something, if you ask me, but I hear where you're coming from...but for those who 'know' how to do it, but "sigh" at the length of time to get it all done, that was a breath o' fresh air.l
[02:22] <Morrowyn> whats a good anti virus for ubuntu that checks for  w32 virusses also?
[02:22] <wizardjames> what do i look for when looking if it has dma?  ..
[02:22] <zwnj> mwe: yes
[02:22] <zwnj> btw, just found .tar format
[02:22] <zwnj> thanks all :)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> bonez: if the user belongs to the group with 7 permissions he should be free t read /write/execute
[02:22] <mwe> wizardjames: using_dma = 1 (on)
[02:23] <wizardjames> nothin with that there
[02:23] <ompaul> bonez, should not impact it
[02:23] <bonez> hmm well then what the hell is wrong here..
[02:23] <ompaul> bonez, ls -l and check that group that is the group of the file
[02:24] <bonez> i did " chgrp -R www-data /folder " && chmod -R 775 /folder
[02:24] <bonez> then did " usermod -G www-data user
[02:24] <bonez> "
[02:25] <Viper12> not sure what ya need an a/v for ubuntu for Morrowyn, but I've heard clam is decent.  (if you're using a mail server TO win clients I could see a use.)
[02:25] <QQ_ghost> how do i set up a DHCP/domain server with ubuntu
[02:25] <ompaul> bonez, chown -R www-data:www-data folder should have done the job
[02:26] <ompaul> bonez, as long as you are using sudo
[02:26] <bonez> (i;m using sudo -s -H .. :) )
[02:26] <bonez> hmm
[02:26] <mwe> wizardjames: hmm the man page says it's supposed to be an ATA/IDE drive. yours is scsi, right?
[02:27] <wizardjames> sata
[02:27] <mendy> ompaul I need your help again
[02:27] <Morrowyn> well i dont to have linux worms on my system, even if i run as non root, it can still affect my data
[02:27] <bonez> QQ_ghost, dhcp --> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:27] <wizardjames> sda and sdb are my 2 drives
[02:27] <Morrowyn> dont to have/dont want to have
[02:27] <mendy> I did what you said, and I'm getting a kernel panic at startup
[02:27] <maskd> wizardjames: scsi and sata are treated as the same by ubuntu i think
[02:27] <mwe> wizardjames: should work then. I don't know why it doesn't mention dma
[02:28] <rapha> Back
[02:28] <rapha> Now I got a Ubuntu PPC problem
[02:28] <ordicasse> my system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), can someone help me ?
[02:28] <wizardjames> when i try "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdb"
[02:28] <wizardjames> i get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:28] <rapha> I moved a hard drive with installed Ubuntu from one Mac to another ... does anybody know how to make it boot?
[02:28] <mwe> ordicasse: did you run fsck on them?
[02:29] <ompaul> mendy, ask the channel if I can help then I will but what if (A) I am off having coffee or (B) don't know the answer I might get embarrassed
[02:29] <thoreauputic> wizardjames: I think hdparm only works for IDE drives
[02:29] <maskd> wizardjames: does sudo hdparm -d1 -X /dev/sdb work?
[02:29] <ordicasse> mwe: no, i didn't
[02:29] <ompaul> mendy, as for your question then something else is wrong
[02:29] <mwe> ordicasse: I would
[02:30] <wizardjames> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setxfermode) failed: Input/output error
[02:30] <ompaul> mendy, you booted from the CD? and it paused it asks you do you want to type server you choose server and it fails is that correct?
[02:30] <maskd> wizardjames: i can hdparm on my sata drive without any flags
[02:30] <bonez> ompaul, hmm wtf .. uhm i think i miss typed the group ... it works now .. thanks man ..
[02:30] <maskd> wizardjames: but with the -d1 flag i get the same error as you
[02:30] <mendy> Yes, the install went fine, ompaul, and on the startup I got the panic ,
[02:30] <ompaul> bolrod, np
[02:30] <wizardjames> ok
[02:31] <Morrowyn> how come mplayer isnt in the ubuntu rep anymore?
[02:31] <ompaul> bonez, np even
[02:31] <wizardjames> same
[02:31] <ompaul> bolrod, wrong spy
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: it is
[02:31] <Ubunti_Ki> where does sources.list locate?
[02:31] <Morrowyn> hmmmm
[02:31] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[02:31] <rapha> Anybody proficient with yaboot?
[02:31] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[02:31] <xbrucex> !info x264
[02:31] <maskd> Morrowyn: are you checking universe repos?
[02:31] <mendy> I tried booting in safe mode, and I see it got stuck by the AGP video card, i think
[02:31] <Morrowyn> lemme see which sources i grab
[02:31] <thoreauputic> mplayer is multiverse as you see above
[02:31] <Viper12> Morrowyn,  you really should give this a read.....its an eye opener from someone who ISNT a spokesman for an A/Virus company.   http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus
[02:31] <ordicasse> mwe: it doesn't work for "sudo fsck /dev/hda3" (my main linux partition), it says "fsck.ext3: Filesystem revision too high...
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: that sounds weird
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: from knoppix you say?
[02:32] <ompaul> mendy, it installed, you took out the CD and it is panicing? what is the panic message (roughly) if you want to type a lot of stuff use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give the url when you are finished
[02:32] <ordicasse> mwe: the superblock looks to be corrupted
[02:32] <ordicasse> mwe: no, from ubuntu live cd
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: ok
[02:33] <wizardjames> mwe,  i think i found the prob..    how do i mount a ext3 partion with full control..
[02:33] <Morrowyn> breezy , breezy-updates, breezy-security main universe restricted
[02:33] <ordicasse> mwe: do you think i should better try from knoppix ?
[02:33] <ompaul> mendy, is this a PC or a mac?
[02:33] <rapha> Was it the INSTALL or the LIVE cd that had a "repair" option?
[02:33] <Ubunti_Ki> i wanna update my sources.list, where does it locate?
[02:33] <mwe> ordicasse: If fsck can't run on it, I don't know any other 'fix' than to reformat the partitions
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: you need multiverse
[02:34] <ompaul> Ubunti_Ki, only use sources for ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list random debian sources will break your box
[02:34] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <ordicasse> mwe: but i have very important datas on my partition...
[02:34] <mwe> ordicasse: but if they're hosed, you can't save the data
[02:35] <mendy> It's after the cd is taken out, and it wants to finish the installation, it starts running all sorts of things past me on the screen until it comes to a halt. Its a PC. The error message is like I said Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemting to kill init! Before it is a few lines dealing with apic_timer, force_sig_info etcc...
[02:35] <ltibor65> I want to install Zapping deb package. But it requires Python2.3 or later. So I installed Python 2.4.2 from the source. It is good. But installing Zapping the error message is the same. Why? What to do?
[02:35] <bonez> ompaul, hmm i spoke to soon :(
[02:35] <ordicasse> mwe: there's no rescue application ?
[02:35] <mwe> ordicasse: anyway maybe someone else has a suggestion, though I doubt anything will work when fsck doesn't even run on the partitions
[02:35] <ompaul> mwe, ordicasse always a good thing in cases like that to use a live cd
[02:35] <maskd> wizardjames: you can edit fstab then go sudo mount 0a
[02:35] <maskd> -a
[02:35] <mwe> ompaul: he is
[02:35] <afief> My windows partition, /dev/hda1 always get's mounted only with root permission, how can i change that default?
[02:36] <ordicasse> ompaul: yes i'm using a live cd right now, but it doesn't really help actually
[02:36] <Viper12> mendy, have you tried to install with the no apic option that is given in the boot options of the installer?
[02:36] <maskd> afief: chown -R $user:$user /media/hda1
[02:36] <maskd> or whatever you mount it to
[02:36] <Morrowyn> Viper12, thats all fine and i understand, however i dont want a virus messing up my data, i dont care if a virus can or cannot affect other ppl's data
[02:36] <thoreauputic> maskd: no, it's an fstab issue
[02:36] <afief> maskd: will that change the way it gets mounted everytime or just this time?
[02:37] <ompaul> ordicasse ooch, fsck will not work - that is bad, what does a terminal fdisk -l say pop the output into a paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:37] <Viper12> and the POINT of th article points out the absolutely silly user that lets it happen. shrugs.
[02:37] <thoreauputic> afief: it won't - you need to edit /etc/fstab
[02:37] <maskd> thoreauputic: oh ok
[02:37] <mendy> I didn't go into the boot options, should I , and could you explain how?
[02:37] <Morrowyn> thoreauputic, do i just append multiverse on the breezy universe line or do i replace universe with multiverse?
[02:37] <maskd> how come thoreauputic? im a noob and id like to learn as much as possible
[02:37] <afief> thoreauoutic: but WHAT do i need to edit there?:)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> hi all
[02:37] <thoreauputic> afief: I use /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022       0 0
[02:37] <unimatrix9> how is it going?
[02:37] <unimatrix9> all well?
[02:37] <Viper12> mendy, when you first get to the boot screen of the installer, there are choices in the f1-f8 keys.  these show options for installing ubuntu...and one of those involves booting with a noapic option for some machines.
[02:38] <ordicasse> ompaul: fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6324
[02:38] <thoreauputic> afief: if you want mount on boot use auto instead of noauto
[02:38] <flames> my ~/.bash_profile contains this line: PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and ~/bin is exists, but echo $PATH (/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games) not include ~/bin, what's wrong?
[02:38] <Viper12> sorry I can't remember the exact command off the top, but there is a command line argument for fussy apic boxes.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: append
[02:38] <mwe> maskd: you're can't chmod on a mounted ntfs partition. you need to use mount options instead
[02:38] <maskd> mwe: thanks i didnt know that
[02:39] <melodie> hello ordicasse, did you succeed saving your datas ?
[02:39] <unimatrix9> is it not better ( for newbee ) to mount windows partition using : mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows?
[02:39] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[02:39] <mendy> Ok viper12, thank you I will follow your instructions, Can you tell me more about the noapic and how it affects my boot?
[02:39] <ompaul> mendy, now you are managing to confuse me, lets be very clear here, as the install CD boots it offers a prompt where most people press enter, at this time you should enter the word "server" that is all I requested, if you have done this it will attempt an install, at the end of that install your machine should reboot. at that time you log in and run the command I gave
[02:39] <ordicasse> melodie: no, unfortunately, not yet
[02:39] <unimatrix9> or does it need to be vfat, or ntfs?
[02:39] <something_else> having a problem, since upgrading to 2.6.14 pmount doesnt seem to work
[02:39] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: it's better to have the right fstab entry :)
[02:39] <something_else> Ive tried a later version of pmount Im still having the same problem
[02:40] <wizardjames> is this a ok line to put in fstab for my partion?  "/dev/sda3       /home/trevor/Filesofall    ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[02:40] <unimatrix9> ok
[02:40] <unimatrix9> so the "new"user needs to know what it is...
[02:40] <ordicasse> melodie: i'm still looking for a solution but i don't know any application that could rescue my datas
[02:40] <silverpower> Can I force the installer to use mac-fdisk instead of the 'guided partitioning' tool? The 'guided partitoning' tries to use the whole disk, which is not what I want.
[02:40] <melodie> ordicasse: as you can't get a cfdisk to work, you could do a 'df -h' to have a reminder of the space used by each partition
[02:40] <something_else> in that when I actually add a usb device or insert a cdrom, nautilus doesnt allow me to double click and view the contents
[02:40] <ompaul> ordicasse, at a teminal prompt if you type >> sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3  << what do you get back?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: then you don't have to keep specifying mount options
[02:40] <unimatrix9> ah , ok
[02:40] <Viper12> missed the part where ompaul was assisting mendy.............steps aside....but the apic options are for certain boxes with flaky m.board/bios issues.
[02:40] <melodie> what do you think about that ?
[02:41] <mwe> thoreauputic: why are you using umask 022? the 0 for owner is in effect 2 when it's mounted ro. 222 or 0222 would make more sense to me
[02:41] <afief> thoreauputic: i have no /etc/fstab:S
[02:41] <unimatrix9> thoreauputic, dont i know you from knoppix?
[02:41] <ompaul> Viper12, run with it I have to prepare for work could do with a few mins :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> mwe: 0222 would be fine too
[02:41] <maskd> wizardjames: i may be wrong but on my fstab which was done by default ubuntu install, all of the ext3 partitions that arent being boot off look like "/dev/sda5       /media/sda6     ext3    defaults        0       2"
[02:41] <mendy> ompaul, I did exactly like you said (i think) but I never got the command line. thanks viper12
[02:41] <thoreauputic> afief: of course you do
[02:42] <wizardjames> ok thanks
[02:42] <raphink> afief: that can be a pb huhu
[02:42] <ordicasse> ompaul: sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6326
[02:42] <something_else> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6327
[02:42] <thoreauputic> afief: otherwise your machine wouldn't be running :)
[02:42] <Viper12> np mendy.  and ompaul, if mendy is having apic errors and such, the no-apic options as a choice may be the solution to the issue.l
[02:42] <mendy> Because the system never came up. ompaul, sorry for breaking the lines :::
[02:42] <something_else> people, that is the error shown
[02:42] <melodie> ordicasse: what I think about to rescue your datas would be to format just enough space, and do a direct copy from within the Ubuntu installer as I told you yesterday on the fr chan
[02:42] <raphink> afief: how do you know you've got no /etc/fstab ?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> afief:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab   to edit it
[02:43] <melodie> that's why a 'df -k' or 'df -h' would be useful to get
[02:43] <afief> entered /etc in nautilus as root, and couldn't find it:S
[02:43] <BrianB04> Morning all
[02:43] <mwe> ordicasse: what does fdisk -y do? and why ary you running fdisk on a partition instead of a disk?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> afief: just try typing what I said above
[02:43] <afief> oh... it's a file? damn! was looking for a folder(old windows habbits: no extension=folder)
[02:43] <something_else> hello Brian
[02:43] <maskd> try in terminal, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:44] <Viper12> lol
[02:44] <beep> Does any one knows for sound juicer?
[02:44] <BrianB04> What's up in here this morning?
[02:44] <something_else> am i here?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> afief: heh *nix doesn't play extension games ;)
[02:44] <something_else> as in visible?
[02:44] <maskd> something_else: yes
[02:44] <markive> hi all
[02:44] <something_else> oh thank you, maskd
[02:44] <thoreauputic> afief: or rather , doesn't need to
[02:45] <afief> yes, but could you tell me how it knows the difference between files?
[02:45] <ordicasse> mwe: fdisk -y does nothing
[02:45] <ompaul> mwe, cos I asked him to read that again - fsck -y not fdisk which was the previous line and it is my opinion from the conversation thus far that the partition is not mounted that is why he is here
[02:45] <Viper12> lol thoreau....its a hard hurtle to realize that to *nix........there ain't no such thing as folders.....just files that point to files.   gotta luv it.
[02:45] <unimatrix9> an other question, if i do sudo passwd , and type an new passwd, the defualt issue with ubuntu an root is solved , right?
[02:45] <maskd> does it use metadata like mac os?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> afief: try typing   file somefile  to see
[02:45] <beep> can someone help with cd databases...
[02:45] <mendy> viper12, do you mean to write at the boot prompt pci=noacpi?
[02:46] <mendy> Sorry I mean noapic?
[02:46] <markive> need something like peerguardian for ubuntu
[02:46] <melodie> ordicasse: please do preceed you commands with 'LANG=C' to get all the results in english  :)
[02:46] <mwe> ordicasse: my eyes are tired. I misread what you typed, sorry
[02:46] <thoreauputic> afief: the "file" command shows you how the system can guess file types
[02:46] <ompaul> ordicasse, do this: e2fsck  /dev/hda3
[02:46] <Viper12> mendy, if that's the command given by the boot process, then yes.  I don't remember that exact command, but those commands get typed after the : and then you press enter.
[02:46] <afief> it only tells me the kind of file... not how it guessed:(
[02:46] <thoreauputic> afief: ah yes - true :)
[02:47] <KurtKraut> Ubuntu releases its own kernel. I've just turned on my ubuntu box and I saw a kernel update. Where is listed the features/bugfixes of the Ubuntu's kernel versions ?
[02:47] <KurtKraut> Is there a website for that ?
[02:47] <melodie> ompaul : e2fsck and fsck are the same tools  :/
[02:47] <ordicasse> melodie: thanks for this command...
[02:47] <Viper12> kurt, if you show 'details' below the list, it should give the info as to what the update entails.
[02:47] <Viper12> (in package update screen.)
[02:47] <pl_ice> hey, any packets for gnome to put random wallpapers ?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> afief: for example if a file needs to be executable it has the executable bits set
[02:47] <melodie> ordicasse, welcome  :)
[02:48] <melodie> $ LANG=C fsck /dev/hda1
[02:48] <melodie> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[02:48] <melodie> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[02:48] <melodie> ;)
[02:48] <wizardjames> whats going ON?  blast , this jsut not working..   aw well..  i will format my hdd tommorw and restart.   i know how to get to were i am in in 4 hours time anyways..  blash,  this really bugs me
[02:48] <thoreauputic> afief: so it doesn't need ".exe"
[02:48] <ompaul> do and h
[02:48] <KurtKraut> Viper12, let me check on synaptic
[02:48] <ordicasse> ompaul: e2fsck /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6328
[02:48] <afief> thoreauptic: i'm having a good time with Ubuntu on my laptop, but could you tell me how to create an Ad-Hoc wireless?
[02:48] <maskd> extensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway
[02:48] <ordicasse> ompaul: it's all in english now
[02:49] <thoreauputic> afief: what i know about wireless fits comfortably on a postage stamp
[02:50] <unimatrix9> afief : go to system / administration /entwork
[02:50] <thoreauputic> maskd: "extensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway" <-- indeed, and a security issue in windows
[02:50] <melodie> ordicasse: have you tried what the last line says in the shell ? do you read the output of console ?
[02:50] <unimatrix9> network
[02:50] <KurtKraut> Viper12, I what more details than that. There is probably a website for that. Do you know where should I find it ?
[02:50] <maskd> thoreauputic: although useful at times to manipulate, eg if you want to send an .exe over msn messenger simply rename it .exe.jpg or something
[02:50] <melodie> ordicasse, "ou might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[02:50] <melodie>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"
[02:50] <unimatrix9> in network wttings
[02:50] <afief> unimatrix9: i am there...
[02:50] <Vezzo--> Estou numa rede com Proxy MS e o apt-get soh funciona apos a instalacao e configuracao do ubuntu. Gostaria de mudar a linguagem do sistema para o Portugues Brasil depois dele instalado... alguem sabe o q faco
[02:50] <unimatrix9> you will find your wireless card
[02:50] <unimatrix9>  i hope..
[02:50] <afief> yes
[02:51] <ordicasse> melodie: i tried but the result is the same
[02:51] <thoreauputic> maskd: which is also how people mask viruses in emails
[02:51] <afief> it works with normal networks, but never got it into ad-hocs
[02:51] <maskd> how has drivers for netgear wireless cards been going?
[02:51] <KurtKraut> Vezzo--, faa perguntas em ingls aqui.
[02:51] <maskd> yeah i know thoreauputic
[02:51] <melodie> ok. what does df -h say ?
[02:51] <maskd> unfortunately people are stupid enough to open them =/
[02:51] <unimatrix9> afief, hold on my battery just stopped
[02:51] <thoreauputic> maskd: :)
[02:52] <ompaul> ordicasse, I am reading the man page for that
[02:52] <afief> hmmm... while unimatrix is busy, could someone tell me how to see if my ATI card has hardware acceleration enabled or not?
[02:52] <unimatrix9> hmm, maybe i dont understand what you mean by adhoc
[02:52] <ordicasse> ompaul: thanks
[02:52] <dotchad> i was trying to install xchat but an error occoured, anyone knows how to solve it? http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=5234878355681666554
[02:52] <unimatrix9> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:52] <melodie> ordicasse, if your datas are really most important, you might go to a specialized store to ask them to attempt to save the datas, and there get a new hdd  I'm afraid
[02:53] <thoreauputic> maskd: one problem is the term "open" - clicking this stuff is actually executing a program - but people don't understand the concept of course
[02:53] <markive> afief , run pengiun racer
[02:53] <melodie> how old is your hard drive ?
[02:53] <afief> unimatrix9: ad-hoc network: a network where two computers commiunicate without an Access Point or anything, like a Cross Cable for LAN
[02:53] <visik7> dotchad: apt-get install xchat doesn't work ?
[02:53] <maskd> thoreauputic: yeah i like how with ubuntu it will tell you what it program the files are opening with
[02:53] <unimatrix9> ah
[02:53] <Morrowyn> weee, mplayerplugin made firefox crash :)
[02:53] <visik7> afief: put one in master mode and the other in managed
[02:53] <ordicasse> melodie: if I can't rescue the datas myself with the linux community help, how could they do it ?
[02:53] <dotchad> i need to compile
[02:54] <thoreauputic> maskd: yup
[02:54] <visik7> dotchad: why ?
[02:54] <dotchad> http://www.xchat.org/compiling/
[02:54] <maskd> anyway i'm off to bed it's getting late
[02:54] <maskd> seeyas later
[02:54] <dotchad> i was following these steps
[02:54] <visik7> dotchad: why u need to compile ?
[02:54] <afief> visik7: master mode? managed? I don't know what you mean
[02:54] <dotchad> what's another way
[02:54] <thoreauputic> dotchad: umm - xchat is installed by default - why are you installing it?
[02:55] <unimatrix9> afief, good question, dont know the answer to that one..
[02:55] <dotchad> i want to update
[02:55] <thoreauputic> :/
[02:55] <visik7> afief: do u need to connect 2 linux pc without an AP ?
[02:55] <onispawn> afief: man iwconfig
[02:55] <unimatrix9> i will read with you to find out...:P
[02:55] <Wilf> what is the google ip address?
[02:56] <Wilf> for dns errors?
[02:56] <onispawn> afief: its something like iwconfig mode <eth1> Ad-Hock
[02:56] <ompaul> ordicasse,  one last thing >>e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3<< if that fails change the number to 16384 and if that fails change the number to 32768
[02:56] <Viper12> kurtkraut, not sure what you need info wise regarding kernel updates, but for 'released' versions, the only updates would be security patch stuff...anyway you might check the ubuntu-kernel channel and ask there.
[02:56] <visik7> Widoff: they have more than 1
[02:56] <Wilf> !ubotu dns
[02:56] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Wilf
[02:56] <Wilf> !dns
[02:56] <afief> visik: a linux and a windows PC. my friend is still using the old system:)
[02:56] <unimatrix9> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows - how do i do i give acces to it for normal user?
[02:56] <melodie> ordicasse, they could do it with appropriate professional material, when they have it  ;)
[02:56] <afief> onispawn: did that but i can't connect to him that way, or he to me
[02:56] <trappist> Wilf: it's /msg ubotu dns (or whatever subject)
[02:56] <visik7> afief: put your card in master mode it will act ad an AP
[02:57] <Wilf> ah, ok.
[02:57] <trappist> unimatrix9: -o umask=0
[02:57] <unimatrix9> ok thanxs
[02:57] <melodie> ordicasse, I'm looking in a thread on a ml about a tool to test the hard drive, I take a look and I come back
[02:57] <afief> iwconfig eth0 mode master ? this way?
[02:57] <melodie> I tested mine once with that
[02:57] <onispawn> afief: you probably have to assign an ip address with ifconfig. windows automatically assigns an adhoc ip address, but linux doesnt
[02:58] <Morrowyn> nvm, fixed it :)
[02:58] <Morrowyn> the perms were on -x , chenged it to +x
[02:58] <afief> onisoawn: any ip will work?
[02:59] <onispawn> afief: you need to match one to the same mask as his
[02:59] <onispawn> afief: take what ever windows assigns him, and just add 1 to it
[02:59] <afief> ummm... his TCP IP protocol is set to automatic.....  so he doesn't have an ip unless he connects somewhere
[03:00] <ordicasse> ompaul: e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6329
[03:00] <|Lestat|> is anyone here fluent in wireless usb adapters?
[03:00] <ordicasse> melodie: thanks
[03:00] <onispawn> afief: or you can specify both of your ip addresses
[03:01] <melodie> ordicasse, put in you console 'man fsck' and read at same time as me  please
[03:01] <|Lestat|> i have my wireless device installed, using ndiswrapper, it's listed in ifconfig, but when i do a  sudo dhclient wlan0 it tried to dhcpdiscover from the wrong address.... i think
[03:01] <ordicasse> melodie: ok
[03:01] <melodie> I'm discovering interesting things
[03:01] <afief> onispawn: how do you set IP with iwconfig? I dont see an ip parameter
[03:02] <mojo> is there a log of this channel I can go look at on line somewhere?
[03:02] <ompaul> ordicasse, there were two other numbers there for you to try - up arrow and move the cursor to the number and put in 16384 the other number being 32768 it will (A) succeed or (B) fail  if it fails there is nothing more I can add if it succeeds great
[03:02] <dotchad> i installed some c compilers trhough Synaptic and now i got a new error
[03:02] <mojo> I got an answer earlier that i need to look back up
[03:02] <dotchad> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:02] <dotchad>  | See `config.log' for more details.
[03:03] <thoreauputic> dotchad:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:03] <melodie> ordicasse, I also opened 'man e2fsck' additionnally, to check the options (-p option)
[03:03] <dotchad> lemme see
[03:04] <ordicasse> ompaul: you mean sudo e2fsck -b 16384 /dev/hda3 ?
[03:04] <ompaul> ordicasse, yes
[03:04] <something_else> does combination of nautilus/gvm/pmount and kernel 2.6.14 cause problems for anyone here?
[03:05] <_Lestat_> someone here must know about wireless in ubuntu
[03:05] <_Lestat_> pleessee
[03:05] <something_else> what about wireless?
[03:05] <AMD_> is xchat 2.4.4 the latest version for ubuntu ?
[03:05] <afief> what's about it?
[03:05] <_Lestat_> i am having problems getting mine to work
[03:05] <something_else> the only thing I know is that it works
[03:06] <ompaul> AMD_, yes
[03:06] <mwe> _Lestat_: pleeeeeease tell us what's wrong
[03:06] <afief> well, tell us the problem that's the best way to get attention
[03:06] <ordicasse> ompaul: the result looks to be the same: e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda3
[03:06] <_Lestat_> i had it working earlier, rebooted and now i cant get it to connect to the router
[03:06] <AMD_> ompaul: ok.  Thanks
[03:06] <mwe> _Lestat_: more specifically
[03:06] <ompaul> ordicasse, and the last number?
[03:06] <_Lestat_> it shows up in ifconfig
[03:06] <_Lestat_> i dunno more specificaly :P
[03:06] <blekos> hello guys
[03:06] <ordicasse> ompaul: what number ?
[03:06] <something_else> eh?
[03:06] <ompaul> ordicasse, 32768
[03:06] <blekos> merry Xms btw
[03:06] <something_else> does it find your router
[03:07] <something_else> as in is the essid set?
[03:07] <_Lestat_> it's pretty much rarin to go when i boot up linux, but i cant get it to ping anything for some reason
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: it works
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, after that if melodie thinks -p is useful and it might be
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, heh
[03:07] <something_else> you can search for routers using iwlist ath0 scan
[03:07] <_Lestat_> can assign an ip to it with ifconfig, but i cant get it to grab an ip from the dhcp server on my router
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, let it work it will take a little while
[03:07] <_Lestat_> any ideas?
[03:07] <tabrez> ubuntu displays all my partitions mounted in /media on the desktop but i cannot open them
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: Inode 1262849 is in use, but has dtime set.  Fix<y>?
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, make a coffee or something :)
[03:07] <ompaul> y
[03:07] <tabrez> i can open them only as root, from console
[03:08] <blekos> in the boot screen I see all the versions (+recovery modes) I have installed eg kernel 2.8.10 etc
[03:08] <ompaul> ordicasse, fix everything
[03:08] <tabrez> then why are they on the desktop if i can't read them from there?
[03:08] <blekos> how can I unistall them and remove them from the boot screen?
[03:08] <torbjorn> is it possible to downgrade gcc 4 to gcc 3.3?
[03:08] <something_else> what does this mena Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[03:08] <_Lestat_> hmmm
[03:08] <funkyHat> blekos, find them in synaptic and remove them
[03:08] <ompaul> something_else, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:08] <dotchad> now glib is missing ;o
[03:08] <trappist> torbjorn: it's not necessary.  they can live side by side.
[03:08] <ubuntu> hy all how do i stop gnome
[03:08] <tabrez> blekos, if you don't want those entries to come at boot time, you can edit and remove those lines from grub configuration file
[03:08] <blekos> :) thnx
[03:08] <ubuntu> ?
[03:09] <mwe> something_else: don't paste in the channel
[03:09] <papaStrumpf> hi, I'm having a problem with CUPS here
[03:09] <torbjorn> trappist: ok thanks
[03:09] <blekos> how do I do that?
[03:09] <something_else> oh yeah, sorry
[03:09] <trappist> ubuntu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:09] <_Lestat_> anyone? :P
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> trappist,
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> tnx
[03:09] <ompaul> something_else, paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> and how do i start it again?
[03:09] <ordicasse> ompaul: it asks to fix at every incrementation.... that will take hours, is it normal ?
[03:09] <laforge> anyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?
[03:09] <something_else> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6330
[03:09] <eps> how does one install rar via apt?
[03:09] <Antubis> you men I`m using serial mouse and the Ubuntu linux didn`t find it. How can I fix this problem
[03:09] <something_else> what does that mean
[03:09] <trappist> eeeeeeee: care to take a guess?
[03:10] <something_else> recently my wiress led has stopped lighting
[03:10] <something_else> and pmount is problematic
[03:10] <ompaul> ordicasse, when it is badly broken you have a choice take a chance (ctrl+c) and start it again with the letter y beside the b
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> whenever I try to print something it says: Paused: Unable to open USB device "usb://Samsung/ML-1520": No such device
[03:10] <dotchad> how do i install glib properly?
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> don't get it
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> it's supposed to be a Linux compatible device
[03:11] <papaStrumpf> it worked in Fedora
[03:11] <ompaul> ordicasse, but it may or may not work for you -  I would actually do ctrl + c
[03:11] <eeeeeeee> trappist, i gues it is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:11] <melodie> ompaul: if ordicasse uses the e2fsck along with the '-p' option, it il correct everything non interactively right ? and he will not have to say 'y' at each attempt ?
[03:11] <fm> hi
[03:11] <ompaul> !enter
[03:11] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:11] <trappist> eeeeeeee: yep
[03:11] <something_else> I upgraded to 2.6.14 so I could watch Digital tv
[03:11] <eeeeeeee> tnx =)
[03:11] <papaStrumpf> could anybody help me?
[03:11] <ompaul> melodie, and -by will work
[03:11] <fm> I just installed a new soundcard : sound blaster audigy SE, the module is correctly loaded, but all the sound I have is an awful bzzzzz noise
[03:12] <laforge> papa: which printer ?
[03:12] <papaStrumpf> Samsung ML-1520
[03:12] <afief> How can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:12] <papaStrumpf> it uses the same driver as ML-1510
[03:12] <trappist> fm: you don't like have the speakers plugged into the mic jack or something, do you?
[03:12] <ordicasse> ompaul: i did -yb, because -by didn't work
[03:13] <ompaul> ordicasse, hehe
[03:13] <ompaul> ordicasse, learning fast :)
[03:13] <ordicasse> ompaul: are you sure it won't delete all my datas ?
[03:13] <melodie> ompaul : -by ? -b is superblock, in the e2fsck syntax, and the 'y' option is in the preceeding brackets group ? (still looking the syntax in the man)
[03:13] <melodie> so ?
[03:13] <afief> How can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:13] <trappist> afief: sudo fglrxconfig
[03:14] <ompaul> melodie, he could not find his superblock first time -the others were corrupted if they ever existed
[03:14] <fm> trappist: I don't think so, no. Actually I get some sound, only high frequencies
[03:14] <afief> trappist: how is a human supposed yo know all these commands?
[03:14] <trappist> afief: by reading the documentation
[03:14] <trappist> afief: there are several great entries on the wiki for making the most of your ati card
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> trappist, private
[03:14] <Imagine> hi
[03:14] <trappist> eeeeeeee: no
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> pls
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> look at it
[03:15] <afief> ubuntu wikki or normal wiki?
[03:15] <Imagine> I have a problem with ubuntu instalation
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee hey can i ask you something?
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee when i try to log in it doesnt start the gnome or what is it. i try to type X or something but it doesnt work. i tryed to edit xorg.conf but that is no problem
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee and whe i reboot it says an fail
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee with numeretical generator
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee i think
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee can you help me
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> ?
[03:15] <Imagine> could somebody help me with it?
[03:15] <trappist> afief: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <ompaul> ordicasse, it may loose a little on you or a lot - but in general I find that it works out okay - in 15 years of sometimes very dodgy disks I only ever fully lost one - in saying that it was a long time ago
[03:15] <ompaul> !tell eeeeeeee about enter
[03:15] <unimatrix9> if i have : sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=0000
[03:15] <ompaul> eeeeeeee, read the message from the bot
[03:15] <unimatrix9> is it write able?
[03:16] <afief> is there something like a "Backup" for my system?
[03:16] <Imagine> I searched for solutions in several forums didn't find any
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> ompaul,
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> :)
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> sorry
[03:16] <trappist> afief: it doesn't back itself up unless you configure it to do so
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> but i am confused
[03:16] <ordicasse> ompaul: I have msg like this on my screen:  Entry 'alsa-utils' in /usr/share/lintian/overrides (2111911) has deleted/unused inode 2112583.  Clear? yes
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> i tryed allmost everything
[03:16] <afief> well, how can i have it make a backup?
[03:16] <ompaul> eeeeeeee, you are being asked really nice not to press enter without a full statement or question
[03:17] <melodie> ompaul: such a long experienced can't be argued  :)
[03:17] <ompaul> melodie, such is life
[03:17] <ordicasse> ompaul: it's finished now, and it says : /media/hda3: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[03:17] <trappist> afief: you could write a little script to backup what you want backed up, or you could install backup packages like bacula
[03:17] <eeeeeeee> sorry ompaul
[03:17] <unimatrix9> sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=0000
[03:17] <unimatrix9>  < is it write enabled?
[03:17] <ompaul> ordicasse, I would hope so or all that work was for nothing :)
[03:17] <ordicasse> ompaul: /media/hda3: 245812/2452800 files (1.1% non-contiguous), 2405812/4903841 blocks
[03:17] <eeeeeeee> soo an anyone help me with my erors?
[03:18] <afief> trappist: my linux experience is limited to using the GUI, some basic terminal stuff, and no scripting at all yet!
[03:18] <sonic> hi
[03:18] <ompaul> ordicasse, (A) get a backup solution in place (B) reboot your box now and test it#
[03:18] <afief> trappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver
[03:18] <trappist> afief: then I'm guessing the machine hasn't been up long enough for backups to be a very high priority :)
[03:18] <ordicasse> ompaul: thanks a lot
[03:18] <melodie> ordicasse: I believe I am seeing a miracle being happening with you hard drive  ;)
[03:18] <afief> trappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver
[03:18] <eeeeeeee> bye as you cant take a time for me
[03:19] <trappist> afief: fglrxconfig will overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf - feel free to copy that to your home directory before you run it, so you can restore it if you screw it up
[03:19] <Imagine> :|
[03:19] <unimatrix9> afief, thats why its alway's nice to have an knoppix , or other linux live cd!
[03:19] <ordicasse> melodie, ompaul: i'll be back in about 5 min to tell you about the result...
[03:19] <ompaul> I was going to tell eeeeeeee that some of us might take a look when we had a moment but that is a mute point now :)
[03:19] <ompaul> or moot even
[03:19] <melodie> I'm staying tuned  :))
[03:19] <sophtpaw> can someone tell me what the command is for executing?
[03:19] <ompaul> melodie, your not the only one
[03:19] <melodie> :)
[03:19] <trappist> sophtpaw: ./filename
[03:19] <afief> unimatrix: got 5.10 live CD:) thanks
[03:20] <sophtpaw> trappist: thank you
[03:20] <ompaul> trappist, was it not as lewis carroll's  queen of hearts said "off with his head"
[03:20] <laforge> papa: still the same prob ?
[03:20] <trappist> ompaul: heh
[03:21] <unimatrix9> any news on the new free mp3 codec for gstreamer?
[03:21] <afief> Whenever i try to change my wireless mode to master i get an error
[03:21] <unimatrix9> will it come to ubuntu?
[03:21] <trappist> ooh, I have filename completion in irssi.  where'd that come from?
[03:21] <laforge> papaStrumpf: ping
[03:21] <melodie> ompaul : you can inverse the brackets containing the option letters in that way ? was -by the same as -yb or another option ?
[03:21] <trappist> !tell unimatrix9 about mp3
[03:21] <s1gnAl> ok, can someone here convince me that I should use ubuntu instead of gentoo? I am getting really frustrated with dealing with it, is it customizable like gentoo?
[03:21] <laforge> anyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?
[03:21] <unimatrix9> yes tell me :)
[03:22] <Imagine> hi
[03:22] <trappist> s1gnAl: every linux distro is equally customizable.  which is to say infinitely customizable.
[03:22] <y_o_u> anyone here had any experience with Broadcom chipsets in wireless PCI cards?
[03:22] <ompaul> melodie, I have found that something like that is usually caused by power outage or hitting the power switch instead of waiting for the box to shut down
[03:22] <s1gnAl> I think I have had it with gentoo, I keep getting broken ebuilds and it is really pissing me off
[03:22] <trappist> y_o_u: yes, but broadcom makes lots of chipsets.
[03:22] <_Lestat_> anyone have any idea why i cannot ping outside of my computer with a wireless dongle?? argle
[03:22] <sophtpaw> sorry, how do i open a tar.gz file?
[03:23] <ompaul> melodie, it appears that -b must be replaced by -yb not -by
[03:23] <unimatrix9> do an dmesg, see if the broadcom shows up?...
[03:23] <trappist> s1gnAl: well ubuntu doesn't want to build everything from scratch, so if things aren't going to work out it'll be less than a week before you know :)
[03:23] <s1gnAl> gunzip tar file, tar -xvf to untar it
[03:23] <Malachi> sophtpaw: tar -zxvf <name of tar file>
[03:23] <Imagine> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation
[03:23] <Malachi> Or that.
[03:23] <sophtpaw> Malachi: thank you
[03:23] <holycow> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/052.html  <-- rofl!
[03:23] <holycow> -_-
[03:23] <Imagine> I need some help
[03:23] <ompaul> melodie, I imagine if you look in the source it checks first for the -y and passes it to all other options so it does not work the other way
[03:24] <s1gnAl> trappist: can I set up my partitions manually when I install it? or does the installer take care of that?
[03:24] <ompaul> !ask
[03:24] <Imagine> I have searched for the solution in several forums
[03:24] <y_o_u> trappist: still trying to get my Belkin 7000 PCI card to work. Read a bunch on the wiki's, just having a tough time getting a link light on
[03:24] <ompaul> !tell Imagine about ask
[03:24] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Of course, you might have to add sudo to that (sudo tar -zxvf <name of tar file>
[03:24] <trappist> s1gnAl: it gives you the option of manual or automatic partitioning
[03:24] <ivan2> hi!
[03:24] <Imagine> but i didn't find anything
[03:24] <ompaul> Imagine, please read the bots message
[03:24] <y_o_u> Belkin *wireless* PCI card
[03:24] <sophtpaw> Malachi: no, looks fine
[03:24] <afief> What's the mouseport for a touchpad?:S:S:S
[03:24] <trappist> youngcoder: the one card I have with a broadcom chip (not a belkin) worked out of the box with the madwifi drivers
[03:25] <laforge> someone who has a url from a 22c3-livestream ?
[03:25] <s1gnAl> y_o_u: I had trouble with a wireless PCMCIA card on another distro, I ended up using an NDIS wrapper I believe, can't remember for sure, but I believe that was correct and it worked
[03:26] <melodie> ompaul : what you say is most interesting. My own machines are protected with a small eletric device, but not from the brutal interruptions
[03:26] <melodie> and all these electronic components, in the hdd as well, don't like that at all
[03:26] <ompaul> melodie, well over the years you get to work no some funny things :)
[03:27] <ompaul> s/no/with
[03:27] <trappist> melodie: hard drives and filesystems hate sudden interruptions in power
[03:27] <ubuntu> ubuntu is kinda cool :)
[03:27] <unimatrix9> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13078
[03:27] <unimatrix9> new free mp3 codec
[03:27] <Malachi> ubuntu: "kinda"?
[03:27] <trappist> I doubt it
[03:27] <unimatrix9> would it not be nice for ubuntu?
[03:27] <melodie> ompaul: I've learned plenty over the years, but start on computers since a little more than one year only
[03:27] <unimatrix9> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13078
[03:27] <melodie> :)
[03:27] <y_o_u> s1gnAl: i have installed the wrapper, and its wierd, when i check to see if the instalation of the driver was a success, it says "installed ndis drivers:  bcmwl5 driver present". apparently it is also supposed to say hardware present as well.
[03:27] <ubuntu> Malachi, just had my first minute on the livecd
[03:27] <melodie> trappist: you're right too
[03:28] <robsta> hi, is there a channel for launchpad?
[03:28] <Zambba> yes
[03:28] <Malachi> ubuntu: Ah. Well, it takes a lot to set it up, but once it's set up, it's awesome.
[03:28] <Zambba> #launchpad
[03:28] <greenpenguin13> its got one person on
[03:28] <greenpenguin13> me
[03:28] <Malachi> ubuntu: Of course, it's the only distro I've used....
[03:28] <trappist> Malachi: a lot to set up?!  have you ever seen gentoo?
[03:28] <ubuntu> Malachi, not as much as gentoo i notice :) at least my ethernet card is reckognized!
[03:29] <Imagine> ok, I'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error
[03:29] <melodie> Zambba, what's the aim of the lounchpad chan ? not to report bugs ?
[03:29] <unimatrix9> and what about an fruityloops clone for ubuntu? lmms!
[03:29] <jensp> hi, what package contains alsaconf? I have alsa-utils and alsa-base installed but the programm doesn't seem to exist
[03:29] <Malachi> ubuntu: I've never dealt with gentoo...
[03:29] <Malachi> ubuntu: Heard alot about it though.
[03:29] <Zambba> melodie: I don't know, I just looked is there a #launchpad channel
[03:29] <Imagine> something like this
[03:29] <Mabus06> how do you give sudo privileges to a user?
[03:29] <Zambba> :$
[03:29] <trappist> jensp: no package contains alsaconf.  lame, isn't it?
[03:29] <Imagine> oos
[03:29] <Imagine> oops
[03:30] <Imagine> * /dev/hde5 not found
[03:30] <unimatrix9> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[03:30] <Imagine> * /bin/sh: can't run tty job control disabled
[03:30] <jensp> hmmm crap, well thanks trappist
[03:30] <melodie> Mabus06 : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation
[03:30] <trappist> jensp: I think I'm gonna file a bug report on that
[03:30] <ompaul> melodie, do you think that ordicasse forgot us? given he had has a live cd to boot and come here on ?
[03:30] <melodie> Mabus06, ;)
[03:30] <melodie> ompaul, don't know  :)
[03:31] <karlan> In available Updates, i get the "Linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 even thou i just installed the 586. Do i have to install the 386 also? if not, how can i remove this from the update? disturbing to have a notice about an update all the time :)
[03:31] <melodie> maybe emotion who knows ?
[03:31] <trappist> karlan: if you uninstall the 386 package it won't try to update
[03:31] <ompaul> melodie, that is stranger than I wanted to think about right now
[03:31] <unimatrix9> ah, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad, would that not be an better answer? Trappist?
[03:32] <y_o_u> i am having some trouble installing a Belkin wireless PCI card on kubuntu useing ndiswrapper, anyone had any similar problems?
[03:32] <melodie> ompaul, what do you mean ?
[03:32] <unimatrix9> instead of the 'bot"
[03:32] <trappist> unimatrix9: a better answer than what
[03:32] <ompaul> melodie, lets not explore that stream of thinking
[03:33] <trappist> unimatrix9: pointing you to excellent documentation is the best possible answer.  spoonfeeding you answers that are not too hard to find on your own... not interested.
[03:33] <melodie> ompaul, I don't understand a bit what you're talking about :)
[03:33] <unimatrix9> hmm, gues you did not send me to the irc bot
[03:33] <unimatrix9> sorry
[03:33] <trappist> unimatrix9: I had the bot show you the location of the answer
[03:33] <ompaul> melodie, emotion and working/broken drives and my bad mind
[03:34] <unimatrix9> never mind...
[03:34] <melodie> ompaul do you know about a software that do nothing, for everybody ?  :)
[03:34] <ompaul> melodie, irc
[03:35] <it4ngo> Melodie, xeyes does nothing
[03:35] <unimatrix9> software that do nothing? windows?
[03:35] <ompaul> it4ngo, it is a serious mouse following item
[03:35] <unimatrix9> :P
[03:35] <melodie> it4ngo, sometimes useful to have fun :)
[03:35] <FL|Maarty> hi, is here anyone who could help me with keyboard problem during instalation of ububtu 5.10 ?
[03:35] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i opened the tar.gz but don't know which one to execute. And how ? is it ./filename? that hasn't worked with any of the ones i'v e tried
[03:36] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Buh?
[03:36] <melodie> ompaul, it4ngo : http://bernardbelanger.com/computing/NaDa/index.php
[03:36] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Explain your problem. I didn't get it.
[03:36] <ompaul> Imagine, did you install the "server" version and then install the desktop?
[03:36] <trappist> sophtpaw: there's probably not much in there to execute.  tarballs traditionally contain source code that must be compiled into executable code.
[03:36] <Imagine> hum
[03:36] <Imagine> no
[03:36] <Malachi> Have you tried ./configure?
[03:36] <Imagine> I chose default instalation
[03:37] <unimatrix9> well thanx for the help again...
[03:37] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i've opened the tar.gz like you said. Now i don't know how to proceed. i tried ./ filename but i'm getting constant errors back
[03:37] <unimatrix9> bye bye, happy tuxing!
[03:37] <FL|Maarty> ompaul: desktop version, after boot I can not use keybouard, have tried another with same result
[03:37] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Have you tried ./configure? If you're trying to install something, ./configure is usually what you do.
[03:37] <qwerty> how do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu
[03:37] <melodie> about 'Nada' I already had a few moments of fun reading on the site, and open the small links in it :))
[03:37] <Malachi> sophtpaw: try './configure' , then 'make', then
[03:38] <trappist> !tell qwerty about fixres
[03:38] <Malachi> 'make install'
[03:38] <karlan> trappist, uninstall throu Synaptics ?
[03:39] <trappist> karlan: that's one way to do it... depending on what you're uninstalling and how you installed it
[03:39] <Imagine> ompaul: no, i chose defalt installation
[03:39] <qwerty> trappist: what about fixres
[03:39] <mikelo> how do i write stout into a file?
[03:39] <trappist> qwerty: the bot told you where to find information on changing your resolution
[03:40] <trappist> mikelo: command > filename
[03:40] <qwerty> no it didnt?
[03:40] <ompaul> FL|Maarty,  the server install (when the machine pauses in the install routine) type in server when it reboots log in and install a desktop with the following command >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<
[03:40] <melodie> coming back later
[03:40] <mikelo> ok thankx
[03:40] <ompaul> melodie, cheers
[03:40] <trappist> qwerty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <mikelo> does the file need to exist already?
[03:40] <trappist> mikelo: no
[03:40] <melodie> cheers
[03:40] <qwerty> wat?
[03:41] <existance> i'm trying to reinstall grub but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:41] <y_o_u> anyone know if there is a channel for ubuntu and wireless problems?
[03:41] <mikelo> tnx trappist
[03:41] <trappist> y_o_u: #ubuntu
[03:41] <yatesy> laff
[03:41] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i tarred ies4linux-1.3.3.tar.gz
[03:41] <sophtpaw> . Now i have in blue ies4linux i've tried ./configure and 'make' but neither work
[03:42] <yookoal1> hello
[03:42] <Malachi> sophtpaw: So it's extracted?
[03:42] <FL|Maarty> ompaul: the problem is, taht i can not use keyboard, in that case i could be able to look in logs...:] 
[03:43] <trappist> sorush20: you have to 'cd ies4linux'
[03:43] <y_o_u> i am having issues getting ndiswrapper to play nice with my Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card. have used wiki's with no success. help. please. anyone.
[03:43] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Now, cd that folder.
[03:43] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, i did tar -zxvf like you said and it appears extracted
[03:43] <sorush20> trappist: hi
[03:43] <qwerty> trappist, it said that xserver was not installed
[03:43] <sorush20> I've just woken up..
[03:43] <Malachi> sophtpaw: run ls to see what folder was created.
[03:43] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, did that i see in green ies4linux
[03:43] <trappist> qwerty: xserver-xorg
[03:44] <Malachi> sophtpaw: In green?
[03:44] <trappist> Malachi: with colored ls green means executable
[03:44] <Malachi> trappist: Right. Meaning it's not a folder.
[03:44] <trappist> which would be blue
[03:44] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, first in blue in /downloads next to the tar ball. Then when i ls ies4linux it is there in green along with a couple other folders
[03:44] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Okay, it's not a folder, so try 'ies4linux'
[03:45] <ordicasse> ompaul, melodie: it works!
[03:45] <trappist> ./ies4linux
[03:45] <ordicasse> ompaul, melodie: not completely, but i have grub back
[03:45] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Yeah, what trappist said.
[03:45] <sorush20> trappist: you talking to me?
[03:45] <trappist> sorush20: no.  did you have a question?
[03:46] <yookoal1> I have an annoying problem with sound recording
[03:46] <dave> hello
[03:46] <sorush20> trappist: just problems with my ati card 3d acceleration..
[03:46] <dave> can anyone help with a partition query?
[03:46] <trappist> sorush20: have you asked those questions?
[03:46] <redguy|work> !ask
[03:46] <yookoal1> I cannot record any sound with gnome's recording program
[03:46] <redguy|work> darn
[03:47] <redguy|work> dave don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:47] <sophtpaw> trappist: thank you, i'm in business
[03:47] <sophtpaw> Malachi: thank you. It's getting there now. :)
[03:48] <trappist> sophtpaw: in the future, try to ask clearer and more specific questions.  this began with "what's the command to execute" when it should have been more like "I downloaded a tarball of ies4linux.  what now?" or something.
[03:48] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Mhmm...sorry, wasn't really concentrating (trying to fix Samba). Sorry if I confused you.
[03:48] <redguy|work> why won't ubotu talk in the channel? too much bot abuse?
[03:48] <yookoal1> I've configured sound with the "Volume control" program. I can hear my voice from earphone now
[03:48] <dave> OK i have just installed a 160Gig storage drive and i want to have accessible to a Windows XP system on the network, but i was thinking of using ext3 or reiser filesystem
[03:48] <dave> i dont want the XP to write to the disk
[03:48] <trappist> dave: if it's over the network, the filesystem doesn't matter
[03:48] <yookoal1>  but still nothing is captured in the sound recording program
[03:48] <yookoal1> what's worng?
[03:49] <yookoal1> hello?
[03:49] <dave> ok
[03:49] <qwerty> trappist it didnt do anything to my resolution
[03:49] <melodie> ordicasse: that's very good! what does not work totally yet ?
[03:49] <eps> what is the gnome burning app that is standard in 5.10?
[03:49] <sophtpaw> trappist: sorry, you are right i could have been clearer. It was the combination of your advice and Malachi's help that did it. Agues, i thought i had the tar ball thing sussed when i didn't quite
[03:49] <redguy|work> yookoal1: don't know how to help you, sorry
[03:49] <trappist> qwerty: it should have taken you through a wizard, which should have allowed you to select your preferred resolution.
[03:49] <Imagine> well
[03:49] <dave> so if i use reiserfs i should not have any defrag problems
[03:49] <Imagine> ompaul left
[03:49] <Mabus06> how do I make a superuser
[03:49] <Imagine> can anyone else give me some help
[03:49] <yookoal1> redguywork, don't say that. thanks for answering
[03:50] <dave> and will be able to store files and share them on the ntwork
[03:50] <eps> Mabus06 what for?
[03:50] <Imagine> ?
[03:50] <melodie> ordicasse, can you plug your usb hdd to do the backup now ?
[03:50] <trappist> dave: if you use any linux-native filesystem you should not have fragmentation problems
[03:50] <redguy|work> Mabus06: what for?
[03:50] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: you can give someone sudo access
[03:50] <trappist> dave: yes, true for any filesystem in the list
[03:50] <dave> thats why i want to use reiserfs not fat32
[03:50] <qwerty> yes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,600
[03:50] <ordicasse> melodie: ubuntu runs, but not the graphical interface, there are some errors, but at least i can see my datas, and mount it now with the live cd
[03:50] <Imagine> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error
[03:50] <sophtpaw> Mabus06: sudo -s
[03:50] <yookoal1> does anyone here knows about sound configuration here ?
[03:50] <uber_spaced> does anybody know what the best way to get MySQL 5 on ubuntu is?
[03:50] <Mabus06> why do you guys say what for?
[03:50] <mikelo> trappist, the script i have is in perl and writes to stdout but it gives me an error
[03:50] <ordicasse> melodie: yes i can!! :)
[03:50] <yookoal1> hello ?
[03:50] <Mabus06> to do things like.. open synaptic..
[03:50] <Imagine> * dev/hde5 not found
[03:50] <uber_spaced> i could compile it from source, but I was wondering if there is a 'Ubuntu' way of doing it...
[03:51] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: you do that through sudo
[03:51] <Mabus06> I don't have a sudo account
[03:51] <melodie> ordicasse, ok then do that first  :)
[03:51] <trappist> dave: the network (in this case samba) makes all the filesystem stuff pretty irrelevant.  the files themselves will go over the network, and only samba will have to talk to the filesystem itself.
[03:51] <Imagine> * /bin/sh: can't run tty: job control disabled
[03:51] <eps> uber_spaced aptitude install mysql ?
[03:51] <sophtpaw> Mabus06: to open synaptic you just need your password
[03:51] <dave> ok thats great
[03:51] <trappist> mikelo: errors go to stderr, of course
[03:51] <Mabus06> I dont have a sudo account... I want to create one
[03:51] <qwerty>  trappist: yes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,600
[03:51] <redguy|work> Mabus06: you can't use sudo? is your user in the admin group?
[03:51] <melodie> Mabus06 : are you the one who installed the distribution ?
[03:51] <trappist> qwerty: have you restarted X?
[03:51] <uber_spaced> eps, mysql 5 came out and supports stored procedures and triggers and the such, currently, my apt only shows version 4.x
[03:52] <qwerty> hold on a sec
[03:52] <dave> my next question is do you know the relevent change i should make to fstab to make it all come up at boot?
[03:52] <trappist> uber_spaced: 5 is not available in breezy
[03:52] <Mabus06> My user is not in the admin group, or anything, I forgot how to do that. Can someone tell me where that file is please?
[03:52] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: but you need sudo access to get sudo access :/
[03:52] <uber_spaced> trappist, so I guess I need to compile from source.
[03:52] <trappist> dave: not until I know the device and the filesystem
[03:52] <Mabus06> No, I can do it as root, greenpenguin13
[03:52] <dave> for example i used /dev/hdb1	/Storage	vfat umask=000 0 0 for the fat 32
[03:52] <melodie> ordicasse: at same time, if you can connect the net from the terminal, why not try an update ?
[03:52] <trappist> uber_spaced: unless somebody's made a backports package or something, yeah
[03:52] <Mabus06> I know what I'm doing I just don't know where the file is.
[03:52] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: oh...
[03:53] <dave> so i have the Storage set ans visible in ubuntu
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: boot in the rescue mode and do 'adduser the_user admin'
[03:53] <melodie> then you reinstall gdm, and see what happens, for example ?
[03:53] <trappist> Mabus06: /etc/group
[03:53] <madphilosopher> #lugradio
[03:53] <Mabus06> rescue mode? I ddi this before, it wasn't hard.
[03:53] <Mabus06> oh, thanks trappist
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: oh, so you have root enabled
[03:53] <eps> uber_spaced ah okay...mmm welcome to the only down side of package management...the repo's take time to roll over to new versions
[03:53] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: userconfig as root
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: you can do the same as root
[03:53] <bshumate> uber_spaced: compile mysql5 from source (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MYSQL5FromSource)
[03:53] <uber_spaced> bshumate, thanks!
[03:54] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: users-admin
[03:54] <trappist> eps: that's not a downside.  distros (except gentoo) tend not to release the all the newest, shiniest software into stable versions of the distro, because that would make it unstable.
[03:54] <ordicasse> melodie: what is the command to make an update ?
[03:54] <eps> trappist thanks for the useless information :)
[03:54] <ordicasse> melodie: using aptitude ?
[03:54] <trappist> eps: wtf.
[03:55] <eps> trappist I was commenting to uber_spaced noting that there is a delay in package updates to versions
[03:55] <melodie> ordicasse: you can copy from /dev/hda3 /dev/your-usb-device
[03:55] <redguy|work> dave: change vfat to appropriate fs name and umask=000 to defaults and it should work
[03:55] <Mabus06> ok I'm in users-admin, but what do I do to make user 'nick' have sudo
[03:55] <trappist> Mabus06: sudo visudo
[03:55] <concept10> anyone been on digg in the last 10 mins?
[03:55] <dave> thanks redguy
[03:56] <redguy|work> Mabus06: put him in the admin group, sheesh
[03:56] <Mabus06> trappist visudo... that was it
[03:56] <dave> how do i get the red repolies?
[03:56] <melodie> or you could do other ways, with dd I suppose.... 'dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/your-usb-device'
[03:56] <eps> trappist also that isn't correct anyway, many distros release 'up to the minute' packages - gentoo even trials behind ubuntu in some areas. it is up to the package maintainers.  but I'm sure that is useless info to you as well?
[03:56] <ordicasse> melodie: i get many operation not permitted when using the command "sudo cp -R lin/ /media/LACIE/backup/"
[03:57] <melodie> ordicasse, see with the others what they say ? I've got few experience
[03:57] <eps> concept10 don't see a great need to follow digg, other places pick up stories and have worthwhile comments on them anyway
[03:57] <redguy|work> eps: if you want to be up-to-the-minute run dapper
[03:57] <ordicasse> melodie: all look like : cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/LACIE/backup/lin/etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver': Operation not permitted
[03:57] <gnomefreak> is anyone else running dapper in here?
[03:58] <melodie> ordicasse can you tar all the files from within the distribution ? with the command line ? do you know to do that ?
[03:58] <trappist> eps: I'm not gonna argue about why we don't have firefox1.5, why kde3.5 is in a completely separate repository, why there exists a backports repository, etc.  you're just being an asshole.
[03:58] <eps> redguy|work look, did I say I was? I run debian sid and that is as 'up to the minute' as I want to be.  now can people stop adding useless information? helping people in here is so complicated
[03:58] <melodie> if yes, then you could do  a .tar.bz2 archive
[03:58] <Mabus06> how do I make a second desktop with my ATI Radeon X700 pro using s-video?
[03:58] <Seveas> trappist, please watch your language...
[03:58] <ordicasse> melodie: the file would be too big
[03:58] <concept10> eps, I dont like digg that much myself, I just wondered if anyone else besides me noticed the spamming that has just taken place
[03:58] <trappist> Seveas: will do.
[03:58] <eps> trappist lay off please
[03:58] <eddye> hy
[03:58] <redguy|work> eps: it's not the useless information that makes helping people difficult. useless discussions are.
[03:59] <melodie> ordicasse, I't would keep all the permissions the same, and you can restore easily after
[03:59] <trappist> <3 redguy|work
[03:59] <eps> redguy|work yes trappist got on some side track when I was helping another user
[03:59] <melodie> ordicasse, then do several files, a bz2 compresses about 25 to 30 % I think
[03:59] <eddye> how can i get a xorg.conf?
[03:59] <eps> I've noticed this channel has a big problem with that
[03:59] <eddye> i messed my
[03:59] <eps> eddye default or ubuntu one?
[03:59] <ordicasse> melodie: okay, then i should only tar home, var, boot ?
[04:00] <eddye> default
[04:00] <pl_ice> hey nalioth :)
[04:00] <Seveas> eddye, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <thefish> where can I get lame for 5.10?
[04:00] <eddye> Seveas,
[04:00] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[04:00] <eddye> i tryed that
[04:00] <Seveas> thefish, gstreamer-lame, liblame?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> gm nalioth
[04:00] <ordicasse> melodie: do you know how to see the size of those directories, to evalate the size of the tar.bz file ?
[04:00] <Seveas> hi nalioth
[04:00] <melodie> ordicasse, I start usually with the personal documents
[04:00] <thefish> Seveas: those didnt show up in apt-cache search lame :/
[04:00] <pl_ice> u guys don't sleep or somethin' ... ?
[04:00] <thefish> thanks, will thry those
[04:00] <Seveas> pl_ice, no
[04:01] <Seveas> thefish, enabe universe & multiverse
[04:01] <eddye> eps, how can i get the ubuntu if i cant the default
[04:01] <raphink> pl_ice: ?
[04:01] <Seveas> eddye, you tried that and what?
[04:01] <ubuntu_> how to know the size in Ko of a directory ?
[04:01] <pl_ice> raphink ? ... hm?
[04:01] <oveh> will this work if i want to mount a iso file? sudo mount -o loop cdimage.iso /mnt/cdrom
[04:01] <Seveas> ubuntu_, man du
[04:01] <uber_spaced> ubuntu_, du -h
[04:01] <raphink> pl_ice: what do you mean we don't sleep?
[04:01] <Seveas> oveh, yes
[04:02] <eddye> Seveas,
[04:02] <redguy|work> oveh: AFAIK it should work
[04:02] <eddye> ERRORS :)
[04:02] <pl_ice> raphink couse heaps of people, and it's late over here ;)
[04:02] <melodie> ordicasse, one thing at a time:
[04:02] <Seveas> eddye, *sigh* which errors? (pastebin them)
[04:02] <oveh> oki, testing it out :-)
[04:02] <bur[n] er> anyone else use quodlibet and find it the greatest music player for gnome?
[04:02] <raphink> pl_ice: have you heard about other countries ?
[04:02] <bur[n] er> :)
[04:02] <pl_ice> oveh try, it will say error :/ but i think u have to put -o loop at the end
[04:02] <raphink> pl_ice: and about how its not the same time everywhere on earth at a given time ?
[04:02] <melodie> ordicasse, after my personal documents I do the configuration folders which are in the /home/user
[04:02] <oveh> pl_ice: oki, thanx for the tip
[04:02] <eddye> Seveas, i am on Live cd because i cant log on the Installed ubuntu
[04:02] <eddye> :(
[04:03] <Seveas> eddye, why not?
[04:03] <pl_ice> raphink , cool out, it's a joke
[04:03] <raphink> ;)
[04:03] <pl_ice> my time zone is 8+
[04:03] <Seveas> pl_ice, raphink didn't sleep in a very long time so his sense of humour is low ;)
[04:03] <melodie> sometimes I put apart the ~/.thunderbird/profile user folder
[04:03] <pl_ice> heeeh
[04:04] <raphink> Seveas: haha
[04:04] <pl_ice> btw anyone uses xmms with itouch plugin? can't find answer for that one ...
[04:04] <raphink> :)
[04:04] <qwerty> is there anything you guys think i should really get from
[04:04] <melodie> about /var just the /var/cache/apt/archives can be a good idea, but if you have a good large band, not useful saving
[04:04] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png  <--quodlibet with cover art :)
[04:04] <eddye> i messed my xorg and then when i try the code: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start it says an error and it says to rebot my pc
[04:04] <eddye> but i rebotet and nothing worked
[04:04] <qwerty> synaptic package manager
[04:04] <pl_ice> eddye, want mine ?
[04:04] <pl_ice> for ati
[04:04] <bur[n] er> eddye: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[04:04] <Seveas> eddye, reboot, try to start X, pastebin the Xorg.0.log
[04:05] <eddye> pl_ice,
[04:05] <eddye> no
[04:05] <eddye> :)
[04:05] <pl_ice> :)
[04:05] <bur[n] er> eddye: if your'e on a livecd, you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from there that works
[04:05] <melodie> ordicasse, ok work well, see y'a later
[04:05] <eddye> have on this live cd one
[04:05] <eddye> bur[n] er,
[04:05] <pl_ice> bye melodie
[04:05] <eddye> that is the problem
[04:05] <eddye> :)
[04:05] <ubuntu_> "du -h mydirectory" gives the size of all subdirectories, i only need the size of "mydirectory"
[04:06] <bur[n] er> eddye: the livecd won't work?
[04:06] <pl_ice> du -h then the path for it
[04:06] <ordicasse> thanks for all melodie
[04:06] <uber_spaced> when I started to configure MySQL, it gave me this error: No curses/termcap library found.  I did an apt-cache search on curses and got a lot of hits.  which one should I install? (ncurses?)
[04:06] <thefish> Seveas: thanks, it was in multiverse
[04:06] <eddye> yes it works but my live cd is version 5.4
[04:06] <eddye> and i have installed 5.10
[04:06] <eddye> i am afraid i will get errors
[04:06] <eddye> :)
[04:06] <bur[n] er> eddye: i'd still say to try and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <eddye> ok ill try
[04:07] <bur[n] er> but pasting the error to pastebin will be the most effective as seveas suggests
[04:07] <eddye> or ill have to reinstall ubuntu :(
[04:07] <bur[n] er> u can use irssi to come back here
[04:07] <bur[n] er> u wont' have to reinstall
[04:07] <bur[n] er> that's silly ;)
[04:07] <yookoal1> is there any good example / tutorial in seting up mic in ubuntu?
[04:07] <Malachi> Is there a way that you can print to a virtual printer? Like print to a PDF file.
[04:07] <eddye> bur[n] er,
[04:07] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: plug it in!
[04:07] <eddye> ill be back :)
[04:07] <bur[n] er> Malachi: I know how in kde, if you find out in gnome, let me know
[04:07] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, but it does not work ...
[04:08] <pl_ice> hey, i got a funny joke (no ban pls) if bill gates got laid in high school there won't be microsfot :D
[04:08] <eddye> bye all
[04:08] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: turn up the mic volume?  is it muted?  how are you testing?
[04:08] <pl_ice> bye
[04:08] <qwerty> im getting konsole now :)
[04:08] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, it does not work with "gnome redorder" actually. I tested everything in "Volume control"
[04:08] <qwerty> is there a way i can boot to kde to try it out, right now im on gnome
[04:08] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with developing gdesklets?
[04:09] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: u can play back audio right?  just mic doesn't work?
[04:09] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, it can play audio
[04:09] <Malachi> bur[n] er: How did you on KDE?
[04:09] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: Malachi it just showed up as pdf printer in my list
[04:09] <Malachi> Hmm.
[04:10] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i think it's part of kdeprint
[04:10] <albacker> guys, i recompiled my kernel and after rebooting i got a lot of errors, but i could enter the new kernel. How can i stop the errors from comming out.. There were some things i dont want to be loaded on startup  this is the kernel log : http://pastebin.com/482893
[04:11] <cratel1> I have a Promise SATA controller connect to a HD that Breezy doesn't appear to find. How do I install this?
[04:11] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, I can hear my from the mic through the headphone. But recorder connot record my voice
[04:12] <albacker> can someone help me please ?
[04:12] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Is printing to file just as good?
[04:13] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: awww... so configure recorder to use the right input device
[04:13] <mason0020> hi, I want to use Boost C++ library in ubuntu. Does it come along with ubuntu, or do I have to seperately install it
[04:13] <pl_ice> albacker u got alsa problem, then other ones
[04:14] <albacker> pl_ice, even tho theres an alsa error i can use alsa output.. any idea ?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: i lied, you can't... use audacity? :)
[04:14] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, how to cofigure the input device for that?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> is there a reason why the kernel and the restricted modules are being kept back in dapper searched bugzilla and didnt find anything?
[04:14] <pl_ice> albacker and ur bus speed is 33 mhz assuming? for ide? not sure ...about that
[04:14] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i guess, I like .pdfs
[04:14] <Malachi> bur[n] er: So do I....
[04:14] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: maybe there's an option in gconf-editor, but i don't see it in the UI
[04:15] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, not tried audacity yet. but skype does not work either
[04:15] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: no?  skype works for me
[04:15] <albacker> pl_ice, any idea on how to resolve those problems ?
[04:15] <bur[n] er> skype even let me choose between my sound cards to use the one with the mic
[04:16] <pl_ice> albacker it said that didn't found ur s.card :)
[04:17] <albacker> pl_ice what to do ? any idea ?
[04:17] <pl_ice> albacker http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=218599  read that ..
[04:18] <cratel1> how do I create a partitition and format a new added (not boot) drive?
[04:18] <pl_ice> maybe u didn't get ur s.card 'ticked' in config ?
[04:18] <christianp> hi all
[04:18] <uber_spaced> yayyy! MySQL is compiling (the correct package was libncurses5-dev)
[04:18] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, show to configure /dev/dsp (the standard sound device of skype)
[04:19] <albacker> pl_ice, dont know ! :S
[04:19] <pl_ice> cratel1 fdisk /dev/drive then add a partition to it, then u have to create file system on it
[04:19] <pl_ice> albacker well, that's the beuaty of compiling ur egg :)
[04:20] <albacker> pl_ice, i configured so much stuff that i dont know what i ticked and unticked.. i know i ticked some alsa and oss stuff.
[04:20] <cratel1> pl_ice: okay. I was just trying gpart-ed. It is asking about a disk label and wants to call it...msdos???
[04:21] <afief> Is something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S
[04:21] <pl_ice> cratel1 u mean u went fo fdisk press new, create partions, then add a partition type?
[04:21] <pl_ice> albacker g luck :)
[04:22] <albacker> pl_ice, you think i have to recompile the kernel and this time carefully ?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> cratel1: msdos is ok
[04:22] <redguy|work> pl_ice: maybe you mean cfdisk?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> cratel1: gparted is great :)
[04:22] <Malachi> Argh, my sound is choppy. It's always been choppy.
[04:22] <Malachi> Any ideas how to fix it?
[04:22] <pl_ice> redguy|work yeh ... , bit late here ... :)
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: using gstreamer?
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: what app?
[04:23] <Malachi> System sounds are alright, just sound from video and mp3s are messed up.
[04:23] <cratel1> pl_ice: I chose the <NEW> icon after I selected "Unallocated" for the partition...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:23] <jtibau> can anyone help me set up a proxy server in breezy????
[04:23] <Malachi> bur[n] er Well, I using Google Video
[04:23] <pl_ice> albacker , the last errors are something with raid, have a look there ...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: awwwwwwwww... that's flash
[04:23] <cratel1> bur[n] er: do I want to consider any other type of disklabel or does it not matter or...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> cratel1: don't consider others ;)
[04:24] <albacker> pl_ice, there ? where ?
[04:24] <Malachi> Totem never starts up.
[04:24] <pl_ice> device mapper
[04:24] <uber_spaced> yeah, totem seems borkinated.
[04:24] <bur[n] er> Malachi: that's just trouble
[04:25] <bur[n] er> totem works fine here
[04:25] <uber_spaced> how do I completely remove totem from my system?
[04:25] <bur[n] er> totem plays my divx, xvid, rm, mov, dvd, etc.
[04:25] <s1gnAl> is there a good resource to learn about LVM in ubuntu? I don't know anything about it
[04:25] <bur[n] er> sudo apt-get remove --purge totem*
[04:25] <eddye> hey
[04:25] <cratel1> bur[n] er: okay. The "magic" is happening....
[04:25] <eddye> im back
[04:25] <bur[n] er> however, totem is part of ubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <uber_spaced> shweet. thanks.
[04:25] <eddye> bur[n] er:
[04:25] <eddye> it isnt working
[04:25] <bur[n] er> cratel1: nice ;)
[04:25] <redguy|work> s1gnAl: there's a very nice howto at IBM's developerworks
[04:25] <bur[n] er> eddye: got an error to paste?
[04:26] <bur[n] er> eddye: something about no screens found?
[04:26] <Malachi> bur[n] er: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[04:26] <bur[n] er> eddye: did you reconfigure and pick the right settings for your monitor
[04:26] <eddye> Segmentation Fault when i try to copy or paste or move
[04:26] <redguy|work> s1gnAl: there's a howto on www.tldp.org as well i think. google :-)
[04:26] <s1gnAl> thanks :)
[04:26] <bur[n] er> Malachi: nothing else is open right?  gnome-system-monitor show any crashed totem by chance?
[04:27] <eddye> bur[n] er: what is this error "Segmentation fault" ??
[04:27] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Could it be because I'm using VMWare?
[04:27] <thava> Hi
[04:27] <eddye> bur[n] er: you still here :) =?=
[04:27] <bur[n] er> Malachi: got me, i've never used vmware
[04:27] <bur[n] er> segmentation fault could be anything
[04:28] <paulproteus|lapt> eddye: It means the program crashed.
[04:28] <afief> Is something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S
[04:28] <thava> anyone now how i can run photoshop
[04:28] <gnomefreak> afief, are you using breezy?
[04:28] <eddye> paulproteus|lapt:
[04:28] <eddye> how do i fix i?
[04:29] <eddye> it?
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: using breezy eh?
[04:29] <afief> yes
[04:29] <eddye> yes
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: did you fresh install breezy or upgrade to it?
[04:29] <afief> gnomefreak:yes
[04:29] <eddye> fresh install
[04:29] <gnomefreak> than no nothing is wrong if you want to have OOo2 use the open office repo found at source-o-matic
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: what video card?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:30] <gnomefreak> theres the link
[04:30] <it4ngo> thava : try to use GIMP or GIMPSHOP
[04:30] <eddye> ati radeon 9200
[04:30] <eddye> no 9000
[04:30] <eddye> :)
[04:30] <bur[n] er> eddye: using fglrx?
[04:30] <eddye> im going nuts :)
[04:30] <eddye> yes
[04:30] <bur[n] er> try not using it? ;)
[04:30] <eddye> how can i do that?
[04:30] <bur[n] er> and just using hte "ati" or "radeon" driver
[04:30] <eddye> :)
[04:30] <libervisco> where is Ubuntu art channel?
[04:30] <s1gnAl> hmm, Im not seeing much about LVM, I am running one disk, would I benefit from this?
[04:30] <bur[n] er> eddye: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the "driver" line and change it to "ati" or "radeon"
[04:31] <nalioth> s1gnAl: you would not.
[04:31] <eddye> bur[n] er: ill be back in about 40minutes
[04:31] <bur[n] er> hehe, ok
[04:31] <bur[n] er> i might not be
[04:31] <bur[n] er> ;)
[04:31] <s1gnAl> so should I stick with normal partitions?
[04:31] <eddye> bur[n] er: i dont have no more xorg.conf
[04:31] <bur[n] er> eddye: good luck nonetheless
[04:31] <bur[n] er> eddye: that's yer problem then ;)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> i only know where gnome kde and xfce art is not sure where ubuntu art is :(
[04:31] <eddye> :)
[04:31] <eddye> bye
[04:31] <gnomefreak> !art
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[04:31] <eddye> quit
[04:31] <Malachi> bur[n] er: After installing totem-xine, Totem won't open.
[04:32] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Rythembox works fine, though.
[04:32] <Quench> err can someone help me, as i get into kubuntu, all is ok, but then as a open the menu at bottem, screen corrupts alittle and it freezes ?
[04:32] <bur[n] er> Malachi: totem gives an error?
[04:32] <pl_ice> anyone installed linux on ipod? ...
[04:32] <Malachi> Nope.
[04:32] <Malachi> Just closes
[04:32] <bur[n] er> Malachi: open it from a term
[04:32] <libervisco> thanks ubotu
[04:33] <Quench> anyone
[04:33] <Quench> ?
[04:33] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Nothing.
[04:33] <libervisco> ubotu, there's gonna be a meeting in that channel in about 7 hours or so...
[04:33] <ubotu> libervisco: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Quench: sorry
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Malachi: wtf ;)
[04:33] <Morrowyn> pl_ice, i was looking at that a sec ago, somehow i cant mount it
[04:33] <pl_ice> Malachi try totem-xine i heard that totem got problems, but my totem-xine still baaddd ...
[04:33] <skynetpro> hy
[04:33] <lleberg_> How do i find out hte actual package name of a known program?
[04:33] <Morrowyn> then i decided to use my ibook for it instead
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Malachi: u can go back to totem-gstreamer, but totem-xine usually plays smoother for me
[04:33] <lleberg_> VLC for example
[04:34] <bur[n] er> Malachi: at least until gstreamer0.10 is used by totem
[04:34] <libervisco> oh :D
[04:34] <libervisco> lol
[04:34] <Malachi> GOT IT.
[04:34] <pl_ice> Morrowyn , have u tried? bit scared ;) to do it
[04:34] <libervisco> ubotu is a bot :D
[04:34] <ubotu> libervisco: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:34] <Morrowyn> i got a bsod when i inserted my ipod into my windows box, was funny
[04:34] <bur[n] er> lleberg_: vlc is the package name
[04:34] <skynetpro> have anybody problem with GBTcr? GBTcr is a GNOME app uses bluetooth to communicate with the phone
[04:34] <ph8> lo all
[04:34] <Malachi> Had to kill one already running =)
[04:34] <skynetpro> make dosn't compile
[04:34] <lleberg_> bur[n] er, strange
[04:34] <bur[n] er> ipods are a virus themselves... crazy itunes and drm and non-usb mass storage crap if you ask me ;)
[04:34] <Morrowyn> well, cant be arsed to do research on it :)
[04:34] <Morrowyn> not atm
[04:34] <lleberg_> or maybe i haven't added universe or multiverse, installed yesterday :P
[04:34] <ATAQ1> Hey, I need to get a 64bit driver for my MSI 945P motherboard, does anybody know anything that I could do?
[04:34] <bur[n] er> lleberg_: i'm guessing that's it ;)
[04:34] <pl_ice> bur[n] er u're right :)
[04:35] <idefix_> is there a simple quick command in linux ubuntu for taking a picture with a webcam??
[04:35] <ph8> When my friend starts ubuntu he gets a nice little graphical screen where all the filesystem checks/network config/clock synchronisation that usually happens on startup appears (the usual about 20-30 lines of initiations) - on mine it's not graphical at all it's all just plain text, any ideas how to turn this feature on?
[04:35] <idefix_> !webcam
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:35] <pl_ice> Morrowyn yeh, bit lazy atm :) but i'm willing to try, show off at uni :)
[04:35] <Malachi> bur[n] er: It works, but it's still choppy.
[04:35] <Morrowyn> cool :)
[04:35] <Morrowyn> let me know if you managed it
[04:35] <pl_ice> yeh
[04:35] <bur[n] er> Malachi: yeah, gstreamer is choppy... can't believe totem-xine doesn't work :\
[04:36] <pl_ice> Morrowyn , will post pics on web :P
[04:36] <libervisco> found it, cya
[04:36] <[FeiM] Swoop|Away> ph8: thats the boot splash .. it's featured from breezy badger
[04:36] <Malachi> bur[n] er: I meant xine.
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: google vids will be choppy as they use flash
[04:36] <bur[n] er> oh?
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: what's the data source?
[04:36] <Malachi> bur[n] er: mp3.
[04:36] <Morrowyn> this is the error i got: given udi is not a mountable volume
[04:36] <[FeiM] Swoop|Away> ph8: you are using hoary release right ?
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i'd say check your processor and ram usage... see if the whole machine is bogged down
[04:37] <bur[n] er> Malachi: mp3s shouldn't be a problem
[04:37] <bur[n] er> esp. if rhythmbox plays them
[04:37] <afief> Why isn't my OpenOffice updated? even though i run the updater everyday?
[04:37] <Quench> does anyone know why i cant boot ubuntu , when my cdrom is disconnected
[04:37] <Morrowyn> if you get the same error pl_ice let me know
[04:38] <Morrowyn> and how you fixed it ofc :)
[04:38] <bur[n] er> afief: OOo2 isn't going to be in breezy... add new sources for it
[04:38] <bur[n] er> !openoffice
[04:38] <ubotu> bur[n] er: No idea
[04:38] <idefix_> how do you add a line to your depot?
[04:38] <bur[n] er> hrm... well, i dont' know where the sources are, but they exist
[04:38] <bur[n] er> depot?
[04:38] <idefix_> Ajouter la ligne suivante dans les depots :
[04:38] <bur[n] er> idefix_: repository maybe?
[04:38] <pl_ice> Morrowyn when did u get that error? which part of procedure?
[04:39] <afief> bur[n] er: and what about the kernel 2.6.14?
[04:39] <idefix_> ok how do I add a line to my depository?
[04:39] <bur[n] er> afief: u'll have to wait for dapper
[04:39] <idefix_> eh repository
[04:39] <bur[n] er> idefix_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:39] <bur[n] er> idefix_: or edit via synaptic
[04:40] <afief> bur[n] er: okay i'm fine with that, but is there a list of what to expect from dapper drake?
[04:40] <idefix_> after you add the line you have to reboot?
[04:40] <ATAQ1> When you install 64-bit Ubuntu, are the generic drivers usually good enough, I mean the motherboard ones?
[04:40] <bur[n] er> afief: not really... u can search the wiki for a roadmap and all that jazz
[04:40] <Morrowyn> pl_ice, i got when i inserted the usb dongle into my machine and then in nautilus
[04:40] <afief> bur[n] er: then how do you know it's all gonna be in it?:s
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/newpkg_main to see new packages in dapper
[04:41] <Morrowyn> after a double click on "apple's ipod music thing"
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: packages.ubuntu.com tells me so
[04:41] <pl_ice> Morrowyn was that after u installed linux on ipod? or just ipod itself :P
[04:41] <idefix_> why is the sources.list not executable?
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: 2.6.15 is there rather
[04:41] <Morrowyn> just the ipod itself
[04:41] <mike-w> is it possible to make thunderbird launch instead of evolution when i click on an email address
[04:42] <afief> bur[n] er: huh? isn't that one still unstable?
[04:42] <idefix_> I'm trying to be inventive
[04:42] <Malachi> Is there a newer version of Open Office than the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:42] <Malachi> Because that one keeps crashing...
[04:42] <bur[n] er> afief: probably... you'll notice that it's not april and dapper isn't stable yet either :P
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: yes, there is...
[04:42] <pl_ice> Morrowyn v. strange, but remember, u have to format it first, i did it using xp :P and the apple shitty program (on linux much harder) then i use gnupod
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: there is a true 2.0 release
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: this is RC X
[04:42] <idefix_> how does this sources.list-file work?
[04:42] <Morrowyn> ok
[04:42] <bur[n] er> mike-w: system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[04:42] <idefix_> is it read and stored in memory when you startup your PC?
[04:43] <Malachi> Pygi: But it's not in the repositories?
[04:43] <idefix_> I'm a total linux-newby!
[04:43] <Morrowyn> i havent formatted it, i just inserted it into my ibook, started itunes
[04:43] <afief> bur[n] er: well:) 1st april is my birthday, so yes i noticed
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: nop
[04:43] <Morrowyn> and did my thing
[04:43] <idefix_> any help would be appreciated
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: it will be in Dapper, same as Firefox 1.5
[04:43] <Malachi> Dapper?
[04:43] <bobbyd> hi
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: next release of Ubuntu scheduled for April if I am not mistaken
[04:43] <bur[n] er> dapper is the next version of ubuntu... right now, we're on breezy
[04:44] <Malachi> Ah.
[04:44] <Pygi> Malachi: :)
[04:44] <pl_ice> Morrowyn u have to format it , somehow :) i think i used itunes and it asked me for a format, u might want to use emergency kit for reboot (program) to put OS on it
[04:44] <Malachi> So I have to get it manually...
[04:44] <Malachi> *sigh* Okay.
[04:44] <afief> What good games are there in the Repository?
[04:44] <Morrowyn> ok
[04:44] <Morrowyn> well i cant be arsed to do it, since i have a working ipod
[04:44] <bur[n] er> Malachi: check backports
[04:44] <Morrowyn> so im cool with it :)
[04:45] <bur[n] er> afief: crack-attack!!!!  breakout, frozen-bubble, tuxracer
[04:45] <_draken> wat is the password for root
[04:45] <_draken> when just installed ?
[04:45] <pl_ice> Morrowyn i burned hd on one of them, 2 wks old one :D
[04:46] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Mmm....nope.
[04:46] <uber_spaced> _draken, sudo passwd root
[04:46] <gnomefreak> _draken, your user password
[04:46] <uber_spaced> gnomefreak, no, it isnt.
[04:46] <Morrowyn> :)
[04:46] <gnomefreak> uber_spaced,  why not?
[04:46] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: because there is no root password... u have to use sudo
[04:47] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: try "su" and use your user password, it doesn't work :P
[04:47] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, yes i know and isnt your user password used with sudo?
[04:47] <bur[n] er> so... burn ;)
[04:47] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: it is...  hence, sudo, not root!
[04:47] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, open synaptic tell me what it asks you for?
[04:48] <uber_spaced> bur[n] er, <sarcasm>Ohhh! I get it! Sudo is a play on words!! Pseudo! As in Not REAL! As in NOT ROOT!!!</sarcasm>
[04:48] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, su is disabled by default
[04:48] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: it asks for a password for sudo... not a root password
[04:48] <idefix_> can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: su is not "disabled" there is no root password
[04:48] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, he also said he just installed it
[04:48] <Pygi> I bealive you should not use sudo :) use "gksudo" insted or "kdesu"
[04:48] <idefix_> Pygi? can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> idefix_: sources.list is just a text file... no scripting about it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> !su
[04:49] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[04:49] <cratel1> I'm needing to mount my newly formatted SATA drive. 1) Why doesn't it automount and 2) where should I mount it to? /mnt/<something>?
[04:49] <Pygi> idefix: sources.list is a text file, no script :)
[04:49] <idefix_> but linux reads from it?
[04:49] <Pygi> idefix: it is used to identify what repositories to use
[04:49] <Pygi> it is used by apt
[04:49] <idefix_> it's a bit like a system file then!
[04:49] <bur[n] er> cratel1: put it in /etc/fstab and give it a mount point... i use /media/sda1 for sata drives
[04:49] <bur[n] er> idefix_: sure
[04:50] <idefix_> how can you restore the situation just in case you screw up your PC?
[04:50] <Pygi> idefix: not really a system file :/ It is used by just "another app" in the system
[04:50] <cratel1> bur[n] er: okay. Will try. What are the <dump> and <pass> parameters in fstab?
[04:50] <bur[n] er> idefix_: restore sources.list?  just remember what you changed ;)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ive never been able to figure out what MS thinks is imporntant enough to be a 'system file' :P it says everything from, the kernel.dll to the 'My Music' folder is critical.
[04:51] <bur[n] er> cratel1: 0 0
[04:51] <Pygi> willis: hehe :)
[04:51] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: for that matter, why is MS so possessive with the "My" crap anyway
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  not to mention the empty folders that are for some reason so critical - they get remade every time you delete them..
[04:51] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  if you mess something up in sources look at the sources list in the link ubotu will post
[04:51] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:51] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:51] <Pygi> burner: they deprecated "My" in Vista I heard....
[04:52] <bur[n] er> Pygi: i heard the same... finally :)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  better then some of the other obscenely long names ive seen programs use.. or ones with (R) or (C) in the file names.
[04:52] <idefix_> is it a problem if the stuff I type into the sources.list is french?
[04:52] <Pygi> Willis: heh, really? Sorry, haven't used Windows for 8 years :/
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> French url's ? Hmm.. with fancy french characters?
[04:52] <Pygi> idefix: french? what are you typing in french?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> idefix_, dont know is it in french now?
[04:52] <_draken> errr
[04:53] <cratel1> bur[n] er: thanks. I'll reboot now and see if it worked...
[04:53] <bur[n] er> cratel1: no need to reboot
[04:53] <bur[n] er> oh well
[04:53] <bur[n] er> some people ;)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:53] <Pygi> burner: too late :)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> he thinks hes running windows
[04:53] <spiderworm> hi, if there's any ubuntu dvd playback experts here, can you please take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109583 <--- thanks in advance for your help
[04:53] <bur[n] er> silly windows tendencies
[04:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I was just about to say that :P
[04:53] <bur[n] er> lol
[04:53] <idefix_> could not save the file "etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:53] <idefix_> :-(
[04:54] <gnomefreak> very few things require reboot in linux :)
[04:54] <Pygi> idefix: you should use gksudo when editing file
[04:54] <bur[n] er> idefix_: edit it as root... aka use "sudo" or "gksudo"
[04:54] <gnomefreak> idefix_, why cant you hit the save button?
[04:54] <Pygi> or "kdesu" if using Kubuntu
[04:54] <Pygi> burner: do you really think it's a good idea to suggest "sudo" ? :/
[04:54] <iarwa> hello, is there anyone who can speak italian?
[04:54] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:54] <gnomefreak> gksude gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <gnomefreak> !it
[04:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:55] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: first thought is that you need a different libdvdcss file
[04:55] <iarwa> thanks
[04:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: isn't it "gksudo" and not "gksude" :/
[04:55] <idefix_> ok ok it works, now restart my PC?
[04:55] <bur[n] er> idefix_: no!!!!
[04:55] <Pygi> no, don't restart nothin' :P
[04:55] <gnomefreak> yes sorry :)
[04:55] <bur[n] er> lol
[04:55] <idefix_> no??
[04:55] <bur[n] er> silly windows converts
[04:55] <bur[n] er> no!
[04:55] <bur[n] er> just apt-get update
[04:55] <Pygi> no, your not on windows :P
[04:56] <Matis> hi!!! i am the greatest NW ever in Linux =P
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: hi hi :)
[04:56] <Malachi> How do you change default programs besides the web browser and mail program?
[04:56] <Matis> can i see the list of packages on apt-get ?
[04:56] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:56] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: i've tried a couple different ones, the one from the libdvdread3 package, and one that somebody else here recommended for me...
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: yes
[04:56] <draken_> wat is root password ppl ?
[04:56] <bur[n] er> Malachi: right click the filetype... properties, open with tab
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: apt-cache :)
[04:56] <draken_> when u first install
[04:56] <Pygi> draken: no root pass, but you can set it
[04:56] <draken_> where how
[04:56] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: do you have a libdvdcss2 file you would recommend I try?
[04:56] <Pygi> draken: root is disabled by default
[04:56] <gnomefreak> draken_, what are you trying to do?
[04:57] <Malachi> Thanks, yet again, bur[n] er!
[04:57] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: wish I did... i got mine ages ago :\
[04:57] <draken_> edit network settings
[04:57] <draken_> asks for admin
[04:57] <spiderworm> k
[04:57] <Matis> lets see
[04:57] <Pygi> draken: heh, use ur password
[04:57] <gnomefreak> you use your user password
[04:57] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: try vlc?  that might be a workaround while you find a working libdvdcss
[04:57] <nalioth> draken_: there is no root password
[04:57] <draken_> i tried
[04:57] <cratel1> bur[n] er: just as I was rebooting I saw you wrote "no need to reboot." What should I have done instead? Also...it didn't work. I saw a "failed" when it tried to mount local files systems. Under the disk manager it has the SATA drive listed as "inaccessible."
[04:57] <draken_> doesnt work
[04:57] <Pygi> use "gksudo" or if ur using kubuntu then "kdesu"
[04:57] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: vlc doesnt play it either
[04:57] <bur[n] er> cratel1: mount /dev/blah
[04:57] <j2daosh> where is the autmatix script located at again?
[04:57] <idefix_> so unstable release or breezy release is that ok?
[04:57] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:57] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: vlc uses libdvdcss anyways
[04:57] <j2daosh> automatix
[04:57] <Pygi> o nalioth, hello :)
[04:57] <idefix_> I need some kick-ass linux course, that's all!
[04:58] <gnomefreak> draken_,  did you install ubuntu?
[04:58] <bur[n] er> vlc uses libdvdcss?  oh... guess I never knew, i've had libdvdcss long as I can remember ;)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  :P   google.com for it  - is what i always do..
[04:58] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: in response to Myth plyaing it choppy... have you enabled dma?
[04:58] <draken_> guys
[04:58] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:58] <draken_> it isnt working
[04:58] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: im not sure.... how do i check that?
[04:58] <|Lestat|> anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)
[04:58] <bur[n] er> !dma
[04:58] <draken_> i type my password it, just doesnt allow me to do admin shit
[04:58] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: only have command line access to the box right now btw
[04:58] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  theres a free online course for linux
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <Matis> nice like 1487 pkg :P thx
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <bur[n] er> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:59] <gnomefreak> draken_,  are you using command line?
[04:59] <idefix_> I get two W's and one E
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> draken_,  you made a initial user, you gave him a password.. try using 'sudo' from the shell with that password also..
[04:59] <draken_> no gnome
[04:59] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: links works ;)
[04:59] <draken_> im trying to bridge 2 network cards
[04:59] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: how do i check to see whether dma is enabled or not?
[04:59] <Matis> PYGI THX!!
[04:59] <idefix_> W: = warning? E: = exception?
[04:59] <Pygi> Matis: yw
[04:59] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: links https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:00] <AMD_> Is there a command shortcut to jump to a specific workspace?  rather than hitting CTRL-ALT <left arrow>/<right arrow>  ?   Something like CTRL-ALT [1234]    ?
[05:00] <draken_> can someone tell me how to bridge two cons ?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> here is the online course http://www.linux.org/lessons/index.html
[05:00] <idefix_> hey thanks for the cool shortcut
[05:00] <idefix_> Ctrl-Alt right twice :P
[05:01] <AMD_> idefix_: haha ;)
[05:01] <bur[n] er> AMD_: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[05:01] <draken_> how do i bridge two network cards
[05:01] <draken_> like in windows
[05:01] <bur[n] er> ctrl+alt+d == my favorite :)
[05:01] <AMD_> bur[n] er: thanks :)
[05:01] <bur[n] er> draken_: u come to irc and ask the same question over and over again and never use google... trust me, it works
[05:02] <Pygi> burner: really? what's a google? :)
[05:02] <Belboz99> Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to add more debian sources to my etc/apt/sources.list file?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> lol Pygi
[05:02] <Bobl> is it possible to communicate with windows machines with sharing files and printers when running ubuntu? (n00b)
[05:02] <gnomefreak> bad
[05:02] <draken_> bur[n] er:  i dont have the time
[05:02] <bur[n] er> Belboz99: that's silly... it's dependent on what you add... not the fact that you add
[05:02] <tRSS> guys how can I take screenshot without logging into ubuntu. I have made a theme and I want to take screenshot of my theme
[05:02] <uber_spaced> Bobl, read up on samba
[05:02] <Belboz99> I'm feeling really limited here after using Debian for about 6 months
[05:02] <nalioth> Belboz99: a bad idea
[05:02] <bur[n] er> Bobl: yes... samba... "sudo apt-get install samba"
[05:02] <Pygi> bobl: samba
[05:02] <Pygi> gnomefreak: what's funny? :)
[05:02] <Bobl> roger!
[05:03] <bur[n] er> Belboz99: use universe?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Pygi, whats google
[05:03] <nalioth> Belboz99: debian biraries will break your ubuntu
[05:03] <Matis> I EVERYBODY----------- I AM REALY NW ON LINUX SO I WANT TO START FROM THE BEGINING I MEAN, USING JUST CONSOLE, AND THEN TRY TO SET UP A XWINDOW, CAN I QUIT GNOME FROM UBUNTU?, AND I WILL LEARN TO USE THE CONSOLE FIRST
[05:03] <gnomefreak> most packages you find in debian you will find in ubuntu
[05:03] <uber_spaced> Matis, ctrl-alt-f1
[05:03] <Pygi> Matis: Lower the caps lock, please
[05:03] <Belboz99> okay, so how do I get more ap's to in my apt list?
[05:03] <bur[n] er> Matis: upon install... instead of hitting "enter" type "server" and then enter
[05:03] <nalioth> Matis: turn off the caps, please
[05:03] <kemik> Matis:  do a server install of ubuntu (breezy)
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Belboz99 about repos
[05:03] <nalioth> Belboz99: enable universe and multiverse
[05:04] <Matis> srry about the captions, and i don't now how to send pm :P
[05:04] <bur[n] er> Matis: /msg
[05:04] <Matis> yes i got breezy
[05:04] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, I don't know what's google :)
[05:04] <Malachi> What can stream .asx radio streams?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i would suggest that you keep Xwindows installed and learn the command line
[05:04] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: you wouldnt perchance know how i could go about troubleshooting why totem cant decrypt an encrypted dvd even though libdvdcss is installed, would you?
[05:04] <spiderworm> im wondering if there's just a symlink that needs to be put somewhere or something....
[05:04] <cratel1> bur[n] er: thanks! All is working now... Do I need to add anything to hdparm.conf i.e. dma=on or anything like that?
[05:04] <spiderworm> or maybe list the library in a file....
[05:04] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: i wish I could go deeper on it, but it kinda just worked after getting libdvdcss, so I never learned any troubleshooting
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: np, thanks anyways
[05:05] <bur[n] er> cratel1: if you want
[05:05] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: did you try that script from the wiki?
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: yes
[05:05] <Pygi> cratell: can I add in just one suggestion for days to come? :)
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: i have dma enabled now, thanks for your help on that
[05:05] <idefix_> ok I executed apt-get update...
[05:05] <Pygi> cratell: don't restart your computer for every little change :)
[05:06] <idefix_> it lists three get's
[05:06] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: sure, at least once totem plays, it'll be fast ;)
[05:06] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  if no errors its a good thing
[05:06] <Pygi> idefix: it lists nothing :) just wait :)
[05:06] <spiderworm> dvd experts are few and far between in this community.... maybe i should go into #debian
[05:06] <Phocion> hey whats the apt command to install a DEB package directly from an HTTP server?
[05:06] <idefix_> I got two W: and one E:
[05:06] <idefix_> couldn't stat source package list
[05:06] <idefix_> and some index files failed to download
[05:06] <bur[n] er> Phocion: wget http://www.blah.com/blah.deb && sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[05:07] <Phocion> ahhhh ok thanks man
[05:07] <pl_ice> spiderworm u need the 2nd lib not 1st
[05:07] <gnomefreak> so thats how you use wget :(
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Phocion: you could also just do "apt-get install blah"
[05:07] <Pygi> burner: but doing that he must resolve dependencies on his own I am afraid :/
[05:07] <Pygi> gnomefreak: hehe :)
[05:07] <spiderworm> pl_ice: i'm sorry?  what do you mean?
[05:07] <Phocion> yea but it doesnt show up on the search list
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Pygi: sudo apt-get -f install usually works ;)
[05:07] <|Lestat|> anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Phocion: got universe and multiverse?
[05:07] <Pygi> burner: yes, yes :P
[05:08] <Malachi> What program can play .asx radio streams?
[05:08] <bur[n] er> |Lestat|: add "auto eth1" or whatever your eth# is to your /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:08] <pl_ice> spiderworm totem's libs got nothing to do with it. ... css ver 2
[05:08] <gnomefreak> i hate that command it reminds me of the hell i went through :(
[05:08] <Phocion> bur[n] er: whats that? .....im retty new with ubuntu
[05:08] <bur[n] er> Malachi: mozilla-mplayer if through a web browser
[05:08] <spiderworm> pl_ice: right, i have libdvdcss2 installed
[05:08] <Pygi> gnomefreak: heh? with wget? :/
[05:08] <bur[n] er> ubotu: tell Phocion about repos
[05:08] <Malachi> Not through a browser.
[05:08] <bur[n] er> Phocion: check yer msgs
[05:08] <AMD_> Is it possible to 'browse' network shares on another computer?
[05:08] <bur[n] er> Malachi: totem ;)
[05:08] <pl_ice> spiderworm then what it says? i had few problems with it, re install it (complete removal) don't add the ver 1
[05:08] <Malachi> Mm.
[05:08] <bur[n] er> Malachi: mplayer should do it too if your totem is toast
[05:08] <Belboz99> Okay, I told it to show the disabled sources, but I don't see the Community Maintained (Universe) entries
[05:09] <Pygi> AMD: Windows or Ubuntu computers ? :)
[05:09] <Phocion> sweet thanks bur[n] er...i'll check that out
[05:09] <AMD_> Pygi: samba shares :)
[05:09] <Belboz99> I'm using 5.10 IIRC
[05:09] <bur[n] er> Belboz99: did you "refresh" repositories?  or apt-get update?
[05:09] <spiderworm> pl_ice: im pretty sure i dont have libdvdcss v 1 installed at all but i will double check
[05:09] <bur[n] er> Phocion: np... the wiki is your friend ;)
[05:09] <Pygi> AMD: well, use Places ---> Network servers I suppose :P
[05:09] <zwnj> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[05:09] <zwnj> kernel (version 2.6.12-10-686).  Even if the module were to compile
[05:09] <zwnj> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[05:09] <AMD_> Pygi: oh ;) cool
[05:10] <AMD_> Pygi: and what about windows shares ?
[05:10] <zwnj> what should i do to make it work?
[05:10] <Belboz99> bur[n] er, doing that now
[05:10] <bur[n] er> AMD_: same place
[05:10] <Pygi> AMD: the same :)
[05:10] <pl_ice> spiderworm css2 1.2.9-1plf3, that what i got
[05:10] <AMD_> oh :)  thought there was something 'different' about 'em
[05:10] <AMD_> :)
[05:10] <spiderworm> pl_ice: where do i find the version number?
[05:10] <Pygi> AMD: :P
[05:10] <pl_ice> spiderworm got it off synaptic
[05:10] <spiderworm> ah
[05:10] <tosh> Im setting up an ADSL modem using USB, the line is detected so the module is working, I created pap-secrets and if-cfg-ppp0, but what do I need to actually ppp dial the connection?
[05:11] <spiderworm> pl_ice: only command line access here
[05:11] <Belboz99> Okay, I'm able to apt-get install wine finnaly
[05:11] <|Lestat|> bur[n] er: i have it added in there, i changed all instances of eth0 to wlan0, but it still isnt up when i boot up. (i have been having alot of trouble with these dongles tonight)
[05:11] <AMD_> here's something from the windows world that i got used to.  When i would give focus to another text area in windows, the entire text box string would be highlighted.  Possible in gnome ?
[05:12] <Belboz99> anyone know if Filezilla FTP Server runs well on wine?
[05:12] <Belboz99> or if there's something better?
[05:12] <yatesy> err install a native ftp daemon?
[05:12] <pl_ice> spiderworm hm, unintall it, then install again, it worked (even when it showed to me that it was installed etc )
[05:13] <Firefox_Rulez> hi
[05:13] <spiderworm> pl_ice: what repo are you getting it off of?
[05:13] <Pygi> hi hi
[05:13] <djroadstar> hello
[05:13] <djroadstar> i have a question
[05:13] <Pygi> fire away
[05:13] <pl_ice> spiderworm hm, not sure :) how do i check it w/o install again?
[05:14] <djroadstar> after the install, the first reboot there is a problem with the hotplug subsystem
[05:14] <Seveas> pl_ice, apt-cache policy
[05:14] <pl_ice> k
[05:14] <djroadstar> it,s won't boot.....
[05:14] <Pygi> oh, Seveas is back :P
[05:14] <Belboz99> okay, why don't I have permission to view my own hard drive partitions?
[05:14] <existance> I'm trying to reinstall grub from a liveCD, where do i mount boot if it's on the same drive as root (i.e. when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda it can't find /boot)
[05:14] <Seveas> Pygi, ?
[05:14] <Pygi> Seveas: just ignore :
[05:14] <Pygi> :P
[05:14] <Belboz99> I've got a FAT32 that I'm using to share files between by OS'es
[05:15] <djroadstar> nope
[05:15] <Seveas>  /ignore Pygi all
[05:15] <djroadstar> i let him took the hol harddisk
[05:15] <_draken> can someone help me bridge two network cards ?
[05:15] <trappist> existance: you mount the whole hda
[05:15] <_draken> can someone help me bridge two network cards ?
[05:15] <pl_ice> spiderworm   500 http://antesis.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages
[05:15] <trappist> existance: and chroot to it
[05:15] <pl_ice>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:15] <existance> trappist, so mount /dev/hda ?
[05:15] <spiderworm> pl_ice: ty, will add that repo and try that libdvdcss2
[05:15] <existance> !grub
[05:15] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:16] <spiderworm> i might have to unintall and reinstall libdvdread3 if this doesnt work
[05:16] <pl_ice> my website works :)
[05:16] <existance> trappist, I'm going off the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows link
[05:17] <djroadstar> i have just fresh installed ubuntu 10.5 on my laptop, but after the install the hotplug subsystem don,t want to start
[05:17] <gnomefreak> 5.10?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> djroadstar,  what kind of laptop and cpu?
[05:17] <ph8> When my friend starts ubuntu he gets a nice little graphical screen where all the filesystem checks/network config/clock synchronisation that usually happens on startup appears (the usual about 20-30 lines of initiations) - on mine it's not graphical at all it's all just plain text, any ideas how to turn this feature on?
[05:17] <Pygi> djroadster: 5.10 I suppose :)
[05:17] <Seveas> ph8, put your menu.lst on the pastebin
[05:18] <ph8> will do, cheers
[05:18] <trappist> existance: if it tells you different, I guess follow it.  I usually mount / in /mnt/hda, mount --bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev, mount --bind /proc /mnt/hda/proc, chroot /mnt/hda and work from there
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> ph8,  thats a feature i normally disable. :P i perfer the nice text messages.
[05:18] <ph8> K tnk ,
[05:18] <ph8> oops, mistype
[05:18] <Belboz99> okay, apparently /dev/sda9 is already mounted in /media/sda9, but how come I don't have permission to access it?
[05:18] <ph8> I think features are quiet/splash
[05:18] <djroadstar> i,v got a asus av3c with centrino cpu
[05:18] <afief> What is ubuntu belowZero????
[05:19] <Seveas> ph8, ok, if splash is enabled there: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:19] <mike__> any recommendations for a program to just play wav files that i get in email?
[05:19] <Seveas> and make sure you run breezy ;)
[05:19] <Seveas> afief, the most recent Ubuntu conference
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  xmms perhaps.
[05:19] <mike__> Dr_Willis, it won't play it
[05:19] <it4ngo> MATIS : please don't write in CAPS it looks like you are shouting
[05:19] <ph8> ah cheers i tried reconfigure usplash the other day
[05:19] <djroadstar> i,v tryed the 5.10
[05:19] <existance> trappist, that's more or less what it says to do, with some deprecated commands anyway.  I did that and when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda it says could not find device for /boot
[05:19] <spiderworm> pl_ice: whats the line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file for the antesis.freecontrib.org repo, please?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  its possible the .wav is messed up then im, not about to do this "try this,, oh that dont work?" game :P
[05:20] <idefix_> seveas? have I been banned too? I was honorable lately
[05:20] <Seveas> idefix_, ?
[05:20] <Belboz99> why are all my HDD partitions listed at being owned by root?
[05:20] <idefix_> I was banned too a couple of times
[05:20] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[05:20] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:20] <trappist> existance: you did a mount --bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev and chrooted to /mnt/hda?
[05:20] <Pygi> belboz: maybe because ubuntu setup does that way? :)
[05:20] <bobw> how can i get my usb mouse to work
[05:21] <Seveas> idefix_, no idea about that, may have been another operator
[05:21] <bobw> i just plugged it in and it dosent work
[05:21] <mike__> !repositories
[05:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:21] <mike__> !easysource
[05:21] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:21] <existance> trappist, mm, what fs do i give for a harddrive?
[05:21] <pl_ice> spiderworm http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6333
[05:22] <trappist> existance: sorry, I meant (for example) /dev/hda1 - partitions, not hard drives
[05:22] <s1gnAl> is there a default root password for new installs?
[05:22] <existance> trappist, oh, then yea
[05:22] <trappist> s1gnAl: no.  you use sudo, with your own password.
[05:22] <Seveas> !tell s1gnAl about root
[05:22] <_draken> can someone help me, as i press adminisator Mode on stuff, i type password but nothing happens ?
[05:22] <existance> trappist, they used mount -o bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev though
[05:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell s1gnAl  about rootsudo
[05:23] <s1gnAl> thankyou :)
[05:23] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:23] <ph8> Seveas: Is "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[05:23] <trappist> existance: never heard of that one.  does it work?
[05:23] <ph8> " pertinent?
[05:23] <ph8> during the reconfig
[05:23] <gnomefreak> _draken, did you install ubuntu on that pc?
[05:23] <idefix_> hmm, there are quite a few packages
[05:23] <Seveas> ph8, that's a different splash image :)
[05:23] <existance> trappist, yea i can chroot in fine
[05:23] <spiderworm> thank you pl_ice , very helpful
[05:23] <_draken> kubuntu
[05:23] <ph8> k
[05:23] <ph8> will reboot and find out if it worked
[05:23] <ph8> nothing else i need to do?
[05:23] <trappist> existance: but do /dev and /proc look like you expect?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> _draken, you installed it right?
[05:24] <mevvis> hi
[05:24] <_draken> ya
[05:24] <john__> can anyone help me with cedega (demo)
[05:24] <mevvis> why demo?
[05:24] <trappist> john__: somebody can probably answer a specific question, if you ask it
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Cedega has a Demo?
[05:25] <existance> hmm, nope, liveCD thinks the hd is hde, but my ubuntu installation says its hda, and in /dev its hde..
[05:25] <gnomefreak> _draken, the user name and password you set during install is what should allow you to access to do things
[05:25] <mevvis> :)
[05:25] <idefix_> there are quite a few packages but webcam is not one of them
[05:25] <pl_ice> unless u pay for cedega Dr_Willis  ... :)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> so when it asks for password that user password would be the one to use
[05:25] <existance> trappist, I've sort of had this problem when I installed ubuntu at first.  Grub used hde in it's commands and I had to change them to hda before it would work
[05:25] <john__> I installed it and installed battlefield two, not instead of exiting out of cedega after it was all installed I closed Terminal which closed cedega, now when I click on the Cedega launch in other applications I get the launch screen for subscribe and play, I click play and nothing happens except that window closes? Any ideas?
[05:25] <trappist> existance: wow. I assume you have an offboard ide card or an onboard raid controller or something.
[05:25] <mike__> is there some special codec to listen to wav files on linux?
[05:26] <mike__> mplayer, xmms, etc won't play these wav files
[05:26] <trappist> existance: try booting the livecd with 'ide=reverse'
[05:26] <pl_ice> john__ first, find out on cedega's w.page if that game is compatible ...
[05:26] <john__> yes it is
[05:26] <john__> very compatible
[05:26] <existance> trappist, so 'boot ide=reverse' at the livecd startup?
[05:26] <john__> but its installed ok
[05:26] <idefix_> what's the difference betwee multiverse and universe?
[05:26] <john__> its cedega itself I can get to open
[05:26] <john__> i mean can't
[05:27] <pl_ice> john__ maybe due to demo ver? ...
[05:27] <trappist> existance: I think it's 'linux ide=reverse' but I've never used the ubuntu livecd so I'm not sure.
[05:27] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  different packages
[05:27] <s1gnAl> holy crap this distro rocks!
[05:27] <john__> pl_ice not much point in a demo if it doesnt work
[05:27] <s1gnAl> <-- first time ubuntu user
[05:27] <existance> trappist, eh, I guess I'll probe around the help file in there if it doesn't work. Be back in a bit hopefully.
[05:27] <Pygi> s1gnAL: hehe :)
[05:27] <pl_ice> john__ yeh :)
[05:27] <s1gnAl> auto updates, gnome desktop hell yea!
[05:27] <Seveas> s1gnAl, welcome :)
[05:28] <s1gnAl> GOODBYE GENTOO!!!!!
[05:28] <john__> I think it is because I closed terminal which forced cedega to shutdown after running it the first time
[05:28] <jared2>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Thane
[05:28] <john__> but I dont know where cedega is installed
[05:28] <pl_ice> bored i might just change OS of my ipod :)
[05:28] <john__> dont know any commands for it nor nothin
[05:28] <mike__> jared2, oops?
[05:28] <Pygi> s1gnAl: oh, the gentoo thingy :P
[05:28] <pl_ice> jared2 oppppssss ....
[05:28] <john__> all I do know is that it is installed, bf2 is installed on it ok but cedega will not run
[05:28] <Pygi> hoh
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> john__,  the command is like 'cedega' :P i think..
[05:28] <gnomefreak> jared2, its better if you do that in the server tab
[05:28] <jared2> That's I nice one huh?
[05:28] <Seveas> jared2, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> may want to rerun the cedega demo installer..
[05:28] <jared2> Seveas: Thanks :D
[05:29] <idefix_> lmgts Email uses 0 packages, Email (universe) uses 1 package and Email (multiverse) more than 1?
[05:29] <john__> Dr_Willis, will it removed the game I installed?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> john__,  no clue..
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> john__,  i doubt it however.
[05:29] <mike__> anyone know why xmms, mplayer, etc won't play these wav files my boss sent me? they're wavs from a pbx from voicemail and sent to me internally i doubt they're corrupted
[05:29] <jared2> I got a space before the  backslash...
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  try 'file whatever.wav' see what it says they are
[05:30] <gnomefreak> idefix_, no universe has one type of mail client and multiverse has a different
[05:30] <trappist> mike__: run 'file' on them and see what you get.  if that looks normal try the 'play' command.
[05:30] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  take a look at the hardware site
[05:30] <jared2> but now that I have everyone's attention... I have a question regarding "Connect to Remote Server"
[05:30] <oveh> how do i make linux see hidden files on a cd?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> no i lied
[05:30] <jared2> where does it mount the drives?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> look at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> oveh,  Hmm what 'hidden' files?
[05:30] <y_o_u> hello all. just got kubuntu up yesterday, trying to get wireless PCI card working. trying to install ndiswrapper. going along with the attached "readme" with the install, it is telling me to type "make uninstall" and "make", but when i type that in the konsole, it tells me "bash: make: command not found". why? thanks
[05:30] <mike__> trappist, msg0000.WAV: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, GSM 6.10, mono 8000 Hz
[05:30] <jared2> and can I move those icons off my desktop somehow?
[05:31] <mike__> play: command not found
[05:31] <gnomefreak> y_o_u,  install build-essential
[05:31] <y_o_u> gnomefreak, how do i do that?
[05:31] <trappist> oveh: add 'unhide' to the options part in /etc/fstab
[05:32] <oveh> Dr_Willis: i'm installing office2003 with crossover office and it says me cd rom isn't configured correctly
[05:32] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:32] <Pygi> you: gksudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:32] <oveh> trappist: ok, trying it
[05:32] <trappist> oveh: crossover office used to fix that for you
[05:32] <Pygi> gnomefreak: gksudo, gksudo, gksudo :)
[05:32] <trappist> oveh: maybe if you don't mount it yourself, it still does
[05:32] <mike__> trappist, play command not found
[05:32] <ph8> cheers Seveas that sorted it right out(!), two further questions. Now that I have this splash screen how can I change it to something cooler/change fonts or anything if at all? And what was the splash screen reconfigure referred to? ;)
[05:32] <trappist> mike__: esdplay?
[05:32] <spiderworm> hey how do i list open ports on my box.... command line?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i thought gksudo was for editing not installing
[05:33] <john__> Anyone here use cedega 5?
[05:33] <mike__> not found
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> john__,  i use the actual comercial version.
[05:33] <nalioth> !gksudo
[05:33] <ubotu> I guess gksudo is Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[05:33] <y_o_u> gnomefreak, how to install build-essential?
[05:33] <nalioth> y_o_u: use synaptic
[05:33] <Pygi> nalioth: using shortcuts :)
[05:33] <john__> Dr_Willis, so do you think it could be because I closed terminal which forced cedega to close during first use of the program?
[05:33] <Seveas> ph8, you can change the artwork but it's not easy (you need to compile it in a specfic format). The splash that the reconfigure refered to is the grub splash (ie: graphical background in grub menu)
[05:33] <john__> Dr_Willis, how do you launch cedega?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  thats what i was saying its used to run apps not install them :(
[05:34] <mike__> trappist, neither found
[05:34] <y_o_u> nalioth: i am a linux noob, i have no idea what synaptic is. is there a howto somewhere?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> john__,  it used to add a menu entry called "Point2Play" - or with 5.0+ ya just run the command 'cedega'
[05:34] <Pygi> you:  System --> Administration --> Synaptic package manager
[05:34] <trappist> mike__: what does mplayer say when you try to play it?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> y_o_u,  open system>admin>synaptic package manager
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> john__,  cedega 5.0 changted a lot of things.. and annoyed a lot of people.
[05:35] <mike__> trappist, bad stream
[05:35] <psusi> y_o_u: spend 5 seconds looking around your desktop menus... you will find synaptic there which is a program you can use to install or remove packages
[05:35] <y_o_u> thank you
[05:35] <trappist> mike__: sudo apt-get install sound-clients, then esdplay
[05:36] <trappist> mike__: err, make that 'esound-clients'
[05:36] <mike__> okay thanks
[05:36] <idefix_> they always stay with me, the old man said when he was talking about his two kids
[05:36] <trappist> mike__: if all else fails, cat filename.wav > /dev/dsp
[05:36] <john__> Dr_Willis, how do ya runt he command?
[05:37] <psusi> mike__: how long are these files?  maybe they only contain 1 second of silence?
[05:37] <ph8> cheers Seveas
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> john__,  err.. i open up a shell and type 'cedega' if i recall...
[05:37] <ph8> While you're here.. ;)
[05:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell y_o_u about synaptic
[05:37] <ph8> Are you aware of the problem that a few widescreen laptop users have with fonts?
[05:37] <ph8> Mine are just too large, all the time
[05:37] <ph8> i can't alter the ones in the menu etc either
[05:37] <john__> Dr_Willis, dont work for me, maybes I am closing it wrong each time I install and setup software
[05:37] <y_o_u> nalioth: thanks
[05:37] <ph8> I think i read someone had a similar problem on the forums somewhere
[05:37] <john__> Dr_Willis, which is really weird
[05:37] <xiaogil> how to have the console in english ? LANG=???
[05:38] <ph8> If you haven't heard about it i'll browse there?
[05:38] <trappist> ph8: I follow the "font deuglification howto" to a certain extent for every new install
[05:38] <john__> Dr_Willis, I can't even see the folder in home, maybes I need to chmod something?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> john__,  no clue.. it may of needed to set some initial demo user in its configs.
[05:38] <trappist> Dr_Willis: may of?
[05:39] <mwe> xiaogil: en_US or en_UK should work
[05:39] <ph8> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4456
[05:39] <ph8> This one?
[05:39] <rabbit> hi, does anyone here use mail-notification for gmail?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> trappist,  or they made a special demo version that dont do it taht way.. never messed with the 'demo' version of cedega at all.
[05:40] <trappist> Dr_Willis: I meant to point out that it's "may have"
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> the info on the 'demo' version is a little light also.
[05:40] <Pygi> gnomefreak: heh, what's google? :)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> rabbit,  what do you need ? the server?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> trappist,  it may of wanted him to fill out some form also. :P
[05:40] <Malachi> Mplayer won't install: says I doesn't like my version of gcc.
[05:40] <mwe> rabbit: I use the one for FF
[05:40] <trappist> sigh.
[05:40] <Malachi> What should I do?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> trappist,  run the demo and see :P   thats what im about to do. Lol.
[05:40] <rabbit> gnomefreak:  I want a gmail notifier..    mail-notification isn't working for me
[05:40] <gnomefreak> !google
[05:40] <ubotu> google is, like, a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[05:40] <trappist> Malachi: it does not say "I doesn't like my version of gcc"
[05:40] <rabbit> mwe: what's FF?
[05:41] <mike__> Dr_Willis, can i send you this file to see if you can hear it?
[05:41] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ok, you didn't have to do that :P
[05:41] <john__> Dr_WIllis, I installed it, exitted ok and it wont run and the command cedega does not work but the transgaming drive does exist now
[05:41] <Malachi> trappist: =) Sorry. Hold on...
[05:41] <flogiston> Is there a way to optimese settings for the ATI drivers?
[05:41] <trappist> flogiston: sudo fglrxconfig
[05:41] <pl_ice> rabbit , not hex format ? ....
[05:41] <Malachi> trappist: It says I need version 3.x but I have 4.0.2
[05:41] <trappist> flogiston: if by ati drivers you mean the drivers from ato
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  i dont have a linux box with any sound,. and i cant get dcc sends either.. so that wont do any good.
[05:41] <trappist> *ati
[05:41] <gnomefreak> rabbit,  i use gmail-notifier so im not sure how that one is set up but make sure you have the name and password right if it asks for servers make sure you have those right too
[05:41] <trappist> Malachi: first, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:42] <flogiston> I mean the fglrx drivers that you install from synaptic.
[05:42] <cratel1> trappist: I think I read that the fglrx drivers don't play nice with suspend and hibernate. Do you know anything about this?
[05:42] <rabbit> pl_ice: hex format for what? where?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> gmail-notifier i type in username and password and it works :)
[05:42] <Insania> can someone help me, if i unplug my cdrom, or plug my windows hdd in, grub doesnt want to boot
[05:42] <Insania> gives error 17] 
[05:42] <pl_ice> rabbit FF ? ... hex numbering ... ?
[05:42] <trappist> cratel1: it may be true.  I run them on a laptop, but I don't bother with suspend and hibernate.
[05:42] <Pygi> cratell: no, they are bad especially with hibernate :/
[05:43] <Seveas> cratel1, the latest fglrx drivers are fine
[05:43] <john__> Dr_Willis, got it working! used terminal to go to the transgaming cedega folder in home and used ./ on the demo
[05:43] <Seveas> they hibernate like a charm
[05:43] <trappist> Seveas: excellent news
[05:43] <Seveas> (and even resume ;))
[05:43] <Pygi> Seveas: hm, probably, I don't use lastest version ;/
[05:43] <trappist> maybe I *will* play with some apm goodness
[05:43] <rabbit> pl_ice:   mwe said he "uses the one for FF"   I don't knwo what he meant
[05:43] <ubuntu_> trappist, I used 'ide=reverse' but the liveCD's /dev still uses hde.  I mounted and chrooted into my partition without binding dev, can I use grub-install like that?
[05:43] <Insania> can someone help me, if i unplug my cdrom, or plug my windows hdd in, grub doesnt want to boot
[05:43] <Insania> gives error 17] 
[05:43] <Malachi> Needs some dependencies.
[05:43] <Pygi> Seveas: thanks for the info tho :)
[05:43] <Seveas> Pygi, I have debs of them if you're interested :)
[05:43] <arbaalo> hey, got a problem
[05:43] <Malachi> trappist: I'll have to do it later...
[05:43] <rabbit> mwe he or she, sorry
[05:44] <trappist> ubuntu_: 'fraid not. you won't have a usable /dev or /proc, and grub-install will cry.
[05:44] <Pygi> Seveas: hehe, sure :)
[05:44] <flogiston> Which are the latest fglrx?
[05:44] <cratel1> trappist, Seveas, Pygi: I was going to try fglrx to try to save on power consumption. Is this a good idea? I don't care about the 3d performance...
[05:44] <ubuntu_> trappist, it said no BIOS drive :(
[05:44] <trappist> Malachi: you could always just apt-get install it *shrug*
[05:44] <arbaalo> i installed 5.10 and updated all which was to update, and now grub don't see my windows partition at start
[05:44] <pl_ice> rabbit google hexadecimal system
[05:44] <nalioth> cratel1: if you want powersavings, use VESA driver
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell arbaalo about grub
[05:44] <Malachi> trappist: It's locked...installing Open Office 2.0
[05:44] <trappist> cratel1: if you don't care about 3d performance, I can't think of a good reason to install fglrx.  but I don't know what if any impact it will have on power consumption.
[05:44] <rabbit> pl_ice:  I'm not sure what I need to do here
[05:44] <ubuntu_> trappist, would manually configuring it work?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> !grub
[05:45] <ubotu> well, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:45] <Pygi> Seveas: when you get time, send them over or somethin' :P
[05:45] <trappist> ubuntu_: it still needs a device to install to... and come to think of it, there's no reason you can't install it to /dev/hde
[05:45] <arbaalo> thx, i'll look
[05:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:45] <pl_ice> don't know
[05:45] <cratel1> nalioth: will the VESA driver work okay for playing videos and that sort of thing? I want some hardware accelleration. I just don't need 3d.
[05:45] <existance> trappist, ah.. forgot to /nick :/
[05:46] <trappist> existance: heh.
[05:46] <existance> trappist, so i should bind dev and proc and try grub-install with /dev/hde ?
[05:47] <Seveas> !tell Pygi about Seveas
[05:47] <trappist> existance: yeah
[05:47] <nalioth> cratel1: try it. if you dont like it, you can change back to fglrx
[05:47] <Pygi> Seveas: hehe :)
[05:47] <cratel1> nalioth: so how do I choose the VESA drivers?
[05:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cratel1 about xcfg
[05:48] <kemik> !tell me about xcfg
[05:48] <nalioth> cratel1: run that command in a terminal and choose the VESA driver
[05:48] <trappist> kemik: /msg ubotu xcfg
[05:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kemik about msg the bot
[05:48] <kemik> no need guys
[05:48] <kemik> but it doesnt respond
[05:48] <kemik> guess i'm not identified in nickserv
[05:48] <existance> trappist, uh.... I think I got it to work a different way
[05:49] <nalioth> kemik: you are not identified
[05:49] <Draken2> can someone please tell me why i cant fucking get into linux when my cdrom is unplugged or my windows drive is plugged in ?
[05:49] <kemik> now i am
[05:49] <kemik> :)
[05:49] <existance> trappist, I ran /sbin/grub and set root and ran setup, and it succeeded
[05:49] <nalioth> Draken2: watch your language please, it's not helping anything.
[05:49] <trappist> existance: excellent
[05:49] <existance> trappist, this is before i bound dev and proc
[05:49] <cratel1> nalioth: I tried the command and I get that xserver-org isn't installed. I look for it in synaptic?
[05:49] <Draken2> nalioth, i been asking for last 2 hours
[05:49] <kemik> crap. thought xcfg was a NICE gui way of editing your xorg-conf =)
[05:49] <Draken2> noone helps
[05:49] <nalioth> cratel1: it's xserver-xorg
[05:49] <shammy> then no one knows the answer
[05:49] <existance> trappist, mmm, I don't know why that worked but oh well, guess ill try rebooting
[05:50] <trappist> Draken2: maybe if you wax obscene it'll help
[05:50] <gnomefreak> !someone
[05:50] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[05:50] <nalioth> Draken2: if nobody knows the answer, do you want us to make stuff up?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> that changed :(
[05:50] <psusi> Draken2: probably because you plugged your windows drive in as the primary master, so it becomes the boot drive instead of the linux disk
[05:50] <kemik> Draken2:  probably that you're boot order gets messed  up
[05:50] <Draken2> so how do i fix
[05:50] <kemik> Draken2:  you'll have to edit your bootsequence in BIOS
[05:50] <psusi> Draken2: don't connect your windows drive as the primary master
[05:50] <Draken2> ...
[05:50] <Draken2> psusi
[05:50] <Draken2> im not changing anything
[05:51] <Draken2> just plugging power back in
[05:51] <kemik> Draken2:  well, you'll have to tell BIOS to boot from wherever GRUB was installed
[05:51] <Draken2> how ?
[05:51] <HymnToLife> Draken2 > have you tried reinstalling GRUB ?
[05:51] <Pygi> Seveas: k, got the deb, thanks
[05:51] <Draken2> HymnToLife, the point of that ?
[05:51] <Seveas> Pygi, read the notice, you need at least 2 debs
[05:51] <HymnToLife> !grub
[05:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:52] <kemik> Draken2:  check your motherboard manual
[05:52] <Pygi> Seveas: read, no worry :)
[05:52] <Phocion> hey all one more problem.  I installed NX Server successfully but cannot connect to it on port 22.  I read Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall to block ports.  What's the problem?
[05:52] <Draken2> kemik, im not changing the ide cable dude
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> NX server uses port 22?
[05:52] <trappist> Phocion: ssh listens on 22
[05:52] <nalioth> Phocion: are you using a router?
[05:52] <kemik> Draken2:  you dont have to
[05:52] <Draken2> im just taking the power cable out of cdrom
[05:52] <Phocion> it tunnels through SSH
[05:52] <Phocion> it tunnels through SSH
[05:53] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, nx server is not a real server but uses the ssh server :)
[05:53] <Morrowyn> ubuntu and nvidia is evil
[05:53] <Draken2> how would that stop gurb from doing its job
[05:53] <Phocion> why would it be blocking port 22?
[05:53] <trappist> Phocion: can you ssh to that machine?
[05:53] <Morrowyn> i installed everything , everything works fine, now after power down andboot x wont start on me
[05:53] <Phocion> nope
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  this is 'freenx' ? ive heard of it.. but never actually used it.
[05:53] <trappist> Phocion: what does `iptables-save` give you?  nothing? lines and lines?
[05:53] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, it rocks :)
[05:54] <Phocion> i do have a router but im connecting from inside the network
[05:54] <Phocion> trappist lemme check 1 sec
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  but i tend to do XP->linux type things.. so i use vnc. or is there a NX for xp also?
[05:54] <Seveas> yep
[05:54] <Seveas> it's MUCH better than vnc
[05:54] <Draken2> kemik ?
[05:54] <mike__> how can i convert wavs to mp3s?
[05:54] <Seveas> mike__, transcoe, mencoder
[05:54] <nalioth> mike__: grip
[05:54] <Phocion> it is much better than TightVNC
[05:55] <kemik> Draken2:  what happens when you unplug the CD? nothing at all? any error msg?
[05:55] <Phocion> trappist: iptables-save shows nothing
[05:55] <Bjoern-Erik> mike__: By using an mp3-encoder. And LAME is by far the superior one.
[05:55] <Draken2> kemik
[05:56] <trappist> Phocion: so it's not a firewall issue.  can you connect to the machine any other way? ping?  is anything listening on port 22 on that interface? (netstat -ntlp)
[05:56] <Draken2> error message
[05:56] <kemik> Draken2:  what does it say?
[05:56] <renato> \j #ubuntu-br
[05:56] <Phocion> hmmmmm `ps aux | grep nxserver` doesnt show the nxserver service running
[05:56] <Draken2> error 21, then if i take the power cable from cdrom into the windows hdd, error becomes error 17
[05:56] <trappist> Phocion: are you sure the process is called nxserver?  maybe just grep for nx
[05:57] <idefix_> how many versions of linux are there?
[05:57] <Phocion> yea nothing.....
[05:57] <Phocion> i can ping the machine
[05:57] <Seveas> there is NO resident nxserver process...
[05:57] <Seveas> can you ssh to the machine Phocion ?
[05:57] <fmasi> Hi i like to know hod do i restart my sound sytem becouse i tryng to figure out how to make my skype whork fine (its making bugy sounds or even whorst says ther is a soud problem)
[05:57] <Phocion> lemme try
[05:58] <kemik> Draken2:  try recovering grub then
[05:58] <Phocion> Seveas: Nope :/
[05:58] <Draken2> ker
[05:58] <idefix_> where is the grep command for?
[05:58] <idefix_> it grabs something?
[05:58] <Seveas> Phocion, is  the ssh server installed?
[05:58] <Draken2> kemik, with install cd ?
[05:58] <Phocion> does it not come installed by default?
[05:58] <idefix_> where do I send money?
[05:58] <Seveas> Phocion, did you install freenx using ubuntu packages?
[05:58] <stoneage> idefix_: finding patterns in data streams
[05:58] <Phocion> Seveas: Yes with APT
[05:59] <Seveas> Phocion, from which repository?
[05:59] <Phocion> er no not FreeNX
[05:59] <Phocion> the trial version of NonFreeNX
[05:59] <kemik> !grub
[05:59] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:59] <Phocion> heh
[05:59] <Seveas> Phocion, we cannot support that, being closed source.
[05:59] <jankoxp> how is the default ubuntu root password???
[05:59] <Seveas> !tell jankoxp about root
[05:59] <rabbit> when navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the most recent directory instead of the full path??  (I can just use pwd if I need to know the full path)
[05:59] <Phocion> im currently using my wlan0 interface with ndiswrapper...could that be a problem?
[06:00] <rabbit> *the current directory I meant ("most recent")
[06:00] <mike__> i need to get these wav files played, if i have to install windows just to hear a wav file its going to suck
[06:00] <Malachi> Installed OpenOffice 2.0; should I get rid of the other version? And how?
[06:00] <Seveas> rabbit, man bash :)
[06:00] <kemik> *gone*
[06:00] <flogiston> What command do i use when i want to se out put from the mouse?
[06:00] <Phocion> Seveas: Does ssh not come installed by default???
[06:00] <rabbit> Seveas: heh, thanks
[06:00] <Seveas> (yes it is possible, you need to set an environment variable ;))
[06:00] <Seveas> Phocion, no
[06:00] <Phocion> doh!!!!
[06:00] <Phocion> well then
[06:01] <Phocion> maybe i should go install that
[06:01] <Malachi> Be right back...
[06:01] <existance> Anyone know of a good mySQL tutorial?
[06:01] <idefix_> finding patterns in data streams, but not in files
[06:01] <idefix_> sources.list grep uncomment
[06:01] <idefix_> mand not found
[06:01] <karlan> is there any easy way to search for a file not using the Terminal?
[06:01] <fmasi> Some could help me whith skype
[06:02] <Seveas> idefix_, wtf are you rambling?
[06:02] <idefix_> the grep command
[06:02] <idefix_> it is to find a pattern in data streams
[06:02] <existance> karlan, why don't you want to use the terminal?
[06:02] <idefix_> isn't rambling like telling a lot of info per second of stuff you know everything about?
[06:03] <idefix_> I don't know anything about the grep command (yet)
[06:03] <Seveas> rambling is talking crap
[06:03] <mcphail> fmasi: just tell us the problem
[06:03] <flogiston> I'm setting up fglrx and it askes for path to the mouse device. How do i know which i should chose?
[06:03] <idefix_> what is babbling then?
[06:03] <Seveas> read the manpage for grep if you want to know more about it
[06:03] <idefix_> but in dilbert it is a techno-babble
[06:03] <existance> idefix_, it's a synonym..
[06:03] <skon> Anyone know how in Gnome to make a startup program automatically go to a different desktop?
[06:04] <jankoxp> --------------------pls write me default root password----------------------
[06:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jankoxp about root
[06:04] <Seveas> jankoxp, ubotu already gave you the info
[06:04] <Pygi> jankoxp: there is no root pass....root is disabled by default
[06:04] <Seveas> and don't be a nuisance
[06:04] <fmasi> mcphail when i call some one useing skype after some few sconds i lost all comunication becouse it starts doing some bugy weard sounds and then i can hear enny one and dont know if they hear me
[06:04] <idefix_> ok, so ramble and babble is all nonsense
[06:04] <trappist> idefix_: and offtopic.
[06:05] <idefix_> ohoh
[06:05] <Seveas> idefix_, stop being offtopic in here
[06:05] <existance> is there a command to see how much free space there is left?
[06:05] <Seveas> existance, df -h
[06:05] <mcphail> fmasi: don't know if it will help for this one, but try skype_dsp_hijacker
[06:05] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:05] <fmasi> i try to chang stuf in multimidia system selector and dasent sem to inprouve the thng is that now my skype whont whork at all it says soud problem when i try to call some one
[06:05] <existance> Seveas, thanks
[06:05] <karlan> existance, i want a graphic search like in windows
[06:05] <existance> karlan, why though?
[06:05] <Seveas> karlan, try beagle
[06:06] <karlan> existance, why not?
[06:06] <mcphail> fmasi: you can find it in Seveas's repository
[06:06] <karlan> Seveas, thx
[06:06] <fmasi> mcphail the thing is my mp3 are fine and gizmo too
[06:06] <Kindred> karlan, Places > Search for files, works too.
[06:06] <existance> karlan, because as you are finding, you have to find it
[06:06] <cratel1> anybody know about "Dynamic Clocks?" --- power saving for ATI cards: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Graphics_Chips_Power_Management_features#Power_saving_with_a_framebuffer_console
[06:06] <skon> Anybody konw how to startup a program on a specific workspace?
[06:07] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[06:07] <mcphail> fmasi: try what i said above re: skype_dsp_hijacker
[06:07] <karlan> Kindred, where?
[06:07] <mike__> please help me figure out how to play these wav files, i have to install windows if i cant
[06:07] <moots> excuse me, but where do i go to ask a question?
[06:07] <Sh4d0x> can someone explain me the "make" part?
[06:07] <jankoxp> -------------- how I set root password??? -------------
[06:07] <fmasi> mcphail ok
[06:07] <fmasi> mcphail thx
[06:07] <nalioth> jankoxp: read your private msg from ubotu
[06:07] <Pygi> janoxp: stop it
[06:07] <mcphail> fmasi: np
[06:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mike__ about mp3
[06:07] <trappist> that is extraordinarily obnoxious
[06:07] <nalioth> mike you install the mp3 libs and you can use grip
[06:08] <radaway> Hey guys I am not a ubuntu person, but I am helping one, I need to know what do you guys use for module autoloading when the computer starts
[06:08] <Seveas> moots, in here :)
[06:08] <Kindred> karlan, the main menu, Applications Places System..  (in gnome..)
[06:08] <Seveas> radaway, hotplug, udev
[06:08] <jankoxp> hello
[06:08] <fmasi> mcphail i lost my source.list file could you tel me how to get seveas rep
[06:08] <karlan> Kindred, lol, never saw that one before ;D
[06:08] <radaway> Seveas, thanks but I don't want it to detect it for me, I want to say load this specific module everytime you start
[06:09] <mcphail> fmasi: Seveas is on the channel. He should be able to give you the url. Don't know it off the top of my head.
[06:09] <nalioth> Seveas: they've found us.
[06:09] <Seveas> radaway, /etc/modules
[06:09] <Seveas> nalioth, ?
[06:09] <tuskernini> hi all
[06:09] <Seveas> ah, spambots
[06:09] <radaway> Seveas, just type the name of the module there?
[06:09] <fmasi> Seveas what is the url for your rep
[06:09] <Seveas> radaway, yeah, add it to that file
[06:10] <radaway> Seveas, Thanks!
[06:10] <Seveas> !tell fmasi about Seveas
[06:10] <tuskernini> i have a sound problem, how do i check my settings in breezy?
[06:10] <tuskernini> it seems like everything is installed and the players like xmms looks like they work, just no sound out of the line out..
[06:11] <Sh4d0x> seems there is an webcom libic for the linux instant messengers, i want to install it but it must be installed with the "make" command. when i try it sais "bash: make is not a valid command" can some help me
[06:11] <nalioth> Sh4d0x: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <erUSUL> Sh4d0x, install build-essential
[06:11] <qwerty> hello
[06:11] <qwerty> i have a problem
[06:11] <mike__> i get a lot of this
[06:11] <mike__> libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/input directory to the plugin registry
[06:11] <uber_spaced> every once in a while, something weird happens on my ubuntu install where I cant ping localhost
[06:12] <qwerty> i installed ubuntu and installed grub on MBR
[06:12] <Sh4d0x> erUSUL build-essential?
[06:12] <qwerty> i now get an error of #15
[06:12] <qwerty> what should i do
[06:12] <Sh4d0x> nalioth: kubuntu?? off-topic?? :s
[06:12] <skon> qwerty: a little more information would be helpful
[06:12] <jankoxp> Seveas, thanks for help ;)
[06:12] <psusi> qwerty: what did you change to cause this to break?
[06:12] <uber_spaced> i ran an /sbin/ifconfig and it showed that my external interface had no IP address, so I ran /etc/init.d/network restart, and now it does have an address, but I still cant ping localhost.
[06:13] <cratel1> I edited my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and now it isn't being read. I undid my changes but still I seem to have broken something. How do I troubleshoot?
[06:13] <qwerty> i didnt change anything
[06:13] <qwerty> i did put slackware on another partition though
[06:13] <uber_spaced> whenever this happens, rebooting seems to fix it, but I dont want to reboot to fix the issue.
[06:13] <radaway> uber_spaced, do you have "127.0.0.1    localhost"in your /etc/hosts file?
[06:14] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:14] <uber_spaced> radaway, yeppers.
[06:14] <Badm4n> any2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:14] <radaway> uber_spaced, odd maybe it's udev eating your loop device
[06:14] <psusi> qwerty: that would ne changing something now wouldn't it?  so slackware broke grub... try reinstalling it from the ubuntu setup cd
[06:14] <nandro> hi all, anyone able to give me a quick answer on if what I am trying to do is possible?
[06:14] <qwerty> psusi: i didnt change anything, but i did install slackware on a nother partition
[06:14] <Markus_P> anybody familiar with recovering grub after reinstalling windows
[06:15] <erUSUL> nandro, just ask
[06:15] <psusi> qwerty: installing slackware definately qualifies as changing something
[06:15] <erUSUL> !ask
[06:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Markus_P  about grub
[06:15] <uber_spaced> radaway, well, it's not in there exactly how you've written it; it's like:
[06:15] <qwerty> okay
[06:15] <skon> Markus_P: just put the ubuntu disc in and skip to the grub installation section
[06:15] <uber_spaced> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost myhost
[06:15] <Markus_P> gnomefreak,  i am following that guideline
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Markus_P,  ubotu pmed you with grub info
[06:15] <Markus_P> and it is not working
[06:15] <rabbit> Seveas:  still here?
[06:15] <nandro> I have an old pc with a 2.5G HD, and I want to network it with a windows pc running win2000 so I can download torrents to the windows box directly
[06:15] <Markus_P> i've been spending quite a few hours to no avail
[06:15] <existance> what's the GUI config for fglrx?
[06:16] <qwerty> skon: put live disk or install disk
[06:16] <skon> install disc?
[06:16] <nandro> I have had debian see win xp boxes, but for some reason ubuntu has given me problems
[06:16] <robertj> where does the SERVER variable get set that is used by libpam-mount?
[06:16] <qwerty> okay, ill be back in a minuete
[06:16] <robertj> does libpam-ldap have some capacity for setting environment variables?
[06:17] <radaway> uber_spaced, that should work
[06:17] <skon> I've been trying to figure out how to start up a program to a specific workspace...could someone please help?
[06:17] <uber_spaced> radaway, it's resolving to 127.0.0.1;
[06:17] <radaway> uber_spaced, yeah that's you
[06:17] <trappist> skon: in kde you'd use kstart.  maybe gnome has something similar.
[06:17] <uber_spaced> I have apache running and when I do a netstat -tcp, things dont get past SYN_SENT
[06:17] <existance> i have two gfx cards/monitors, the main is ATI and the other is nvidia, how can I get fglrx to see the nvidia one?
[06:17] <Morrowyn> how do i install a webcam under linux?
[06:18] <radaway> uber_spaced, 127.0.0.1 always points to the computer you are running
[06:18] <Markus_P> i tried your suggestion skon
[06:18] <uber_spaced> radaway, yes, I know.
[06:18] <Markus_P> but it wouldn't take me past the partition process
[06:18] <olicat> has anyone had any luck getting a d-link wireless dls-G604Y wireless router working with ubuntu?
[06:18] <MrRio> how do i pipe both stdout and stderr into a file?
[06:18] <qwerty> what would this grub command mean: (hd0,5)
[06:19] <trappist> MrRio: man tee
[06:19] <skon> Markus_P: what do you mean? You should be able to get it to fail and then it'll bring you to a menu where you select hwat part of the installation you want
[06:19] <trappist> MrRio: oh hm, misread
[06:19] <Markus_P> i did do that
[06:19] <Markus_P> and it gave me the menu
[06:19] <Markus_P> i chose install grub
[06:19] <Markus_P> and it just brings me back to the manual partition screen
[06:20] <rabbit> when navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the current directory instead of the full path??  does it have anything to do with the $OLDPWD variable?
[06:20] <mike__> this is ridiculous, why can i not play these wav files
[06:20] <trappist> MrRio: > is to pipe stdout, 2> is for stderr... so maybe 2>&1
[06:20] <Markus_P> i' m almost at the point of reinstalling ubuntu
[06:20] <skon> Markus_P: does it say grub was installed successfully?
[06:20] <Markus_P> i've wasted about 4 hours on it
[06:20] <Markus_P> i've read every tutorial on the net
[06:21] <Markus_P> no
[06:21] <steve__> can sommone recoomend a good gui ftp client?
[06:21] <InverseCow> Hello. :-)
[06:21] <Markus_P> it doesn't do anything but take me back to the manual partition screen
[06:21] <tenshi> i cant open .rar files, can someone help me?
[06:21] <No1Viking> Seveas, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6334. Did I do wrong?
[06:21] <kemik> steve__:  gftp perhaps
[06:21] <skon> MarkusP: did you try rebooting it after you tried restalling it?
[06:21] <Markus_P> i've also used the suggestion made by ubotu
[06:21] <MrRio> trappist, cheers, ive got this_cmd > combined_results 2>&1
[06:22] <Markus_P> which uses the live cd
[06:22] <Markus_P> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[06:22] <Markus_P> i get that error when i try to automatically install grub
[06:22] <Kindred> skon, with your workspace problem you might want to look at devilspie, I haven't used it but I think it can do what you want
[06:22] <trappist> MrRio: that works?
[06:22] <Markus_P> i am positive that i do not have a boot partition
[06:22] <skon> Kindred: thanks
[06:23] <khermans> I want to have an undetermined var be an argument to a command -- how can I do this?  ie this doesn't work --> echo "myargs" | runthis
[06:23] <tenshi> i cant open .rar files, can someone help me?
[06:23] <rabbit> when navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the current directory instead of the full path??  does it have anything to do with the $OLDPWD variable?
[06:23] <khermans> tenshi, aptitude install rar
[06:23] <No1Viking> Anyone, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6334. Did I do wrong?
[06:23] <Markus_P> has anyone here actually reinstalled grub after reinstalling windows?
[06:23] <skon> tensi: sudo apt get install rar
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> tenshi,  use the unrar commands from the shell. not the gui archiver tools - perhaps.
[06:23] <tenshi> this i tried
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  yes.. dozens of times.
[06:23] <InverseCow> tenshi, Check out this link in the Wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:23] <tenshi> but no such command known
[06:23] <Markus_P> can you help me please
[06:23] <jackobill> what's the last kernel for breezy in uptdates?
[06:23] <nalioth> tenshi: install unrar-nonfree
[06:23] <tenshi> i installed unrar
[06:23] <Markus_P> please
[06:23] <existance> Markus_P, I just did actually
[06:23] <tenshi> zoh, ok
[06:23] <trappist> khermans: runthis $myargs or for arg in $myargs; do runthis $arg;done
[06:24] <tenshi> zill try this
[06:24] <existance> !grub
[06:24] <ubotu> I heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  i spent a day or more reading and learning the ins and outs of GRUB. :P then its easy.
[06:24] <tita> hola
[06:24] <MrRio> trappist: yeah works great
[06:24] <Markus_P> i don't want to reinstall a perfectly fine install of ubuntu
[06:24] <Markus_P> me too Dr_Willis
[06:24] <tita> como estan?
[06:24] <tita> hello
[06:24] <nalioth> !es
[06:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:24] <jackobill> what's the last kernel for breezy in uptdates?
[06:25] <skon> 2.6.12-10-386
[06:25] <skon> (If that's what your asking)
[06:25] <steve__> im trying to install gftp but i cant find it on synaptic.  i need to add repositories but i cant find a howto on the site can someone point me at the proper link?
[06:25] <Markus_P> i gathered info from my menu lst and fstab
[06:25] <error> hi, kann man ubuntu von der livecd aus installieren?
[06:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell steve__ about repos
[06:25] <nalioth> steve__: enabled universe and multiverse
[06:25] <karlan> im having troubles with my Grub setting. i have both ubuntu and win xp on this comp, but after updating to the newest linux, i cant boot xp ?
[06:25] <nalioth> !de
[06:25] <ubotu> de is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:25] <error> thanks
[06:26] <Markus_P> i'm wondering if because there has been a kernal update since the turtorial was written that maybe the instructions are wrong
[06:26] <steve__> !easysource
[06:26] <Markus_P> is that possible
[06:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:27] <Markus_P> or would a linux kernal upgrade not make that much difference
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> kernel update shoul;dent affect grub.
[06:27] <Markus_P> thats what i figure
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> unless the grub menu config some how got altered wrongly.
[06:27] <Markus_P> it won't let me reinstall it
[06:27] <karlan> Dr_Willis, yeah, but i changed the grub config so i didnt have several ubuntu boots, and that has worked fine since i updated
[06:27] <gnomefreak> Markus_P,  did you try update-grub?
[06:28] <Markus_P> no
[06:28] <Markus_P> it wasn't listed as a step
[06:28] <gnomefreak> try it see if it makes a difference
[06:28] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis, not true i made a kernel update yesterday and it changed the root= line in all my custom made stanzas so i coul not boot. i have to boot with live cd and edit menu.lst
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> karlan,  theres a setting that can auto-limit it to showing just the last 2 or so. :P
[06:28] <Markus_P> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:28] <Markus_P> thats the howto i'm trying to use
[06:28] <karlan> Dr_Willis, oh, ok :) it was someone here that told me i could change it manually
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL,  sounds like a bug to me.
[06:29] <karlan> :C
[06:29] <Markus_P> is that the same one you used Dr_Willis ?
[06:29] <karlan> Dr_Willis, any idea how i can fix this? :)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of interesting 'settings' that ubuntu does in the grub config. worth reading the fuile a few times.
[06:30] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis, yeha have to live with it. anyway i use custom kernels i may have to avoid kernel install/update
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  ive done it soo many times with other disrtos.. i  can muddle my way through it withiout that url :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL,  custome kernel :P i aint had to mess with a custome kernel in ages.. *yea*
[06:30] <uber_spaced> radaway, when you said ' odd maybe it's udev eating your loop device', I think you may have been on to something
[06:30] <Markus_P> could you take a look at it for me .....
[06:31] <Markus_P> see if it looks ok?
[06:31] <Markus_P> i'm really stuck
[06:31] <uber_spaced> I can refer to my machine with my IP address, but not localhos or 127.0.0.1
[06:31] <trappist> Dr_Willis: most people don't "have to" use custom kernels, but there are still plenty of reasons to do it
[06:31] <uber_spaced> my lo looks like it's borkded.
[06:31] <uber_spaced> is there a way to fix that?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> Markus_P,  can you paste the grub config file in pastebin?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  what is the system not doing/doing?
[06:31] <karlan> where is the grub config located?
[06:31] <trappist> uber_spaced: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> its GRUB 101  day here on #ubuntu
[06:31] <trappist> uber_spaced: with sudo of course
[06:31] <radaway> uber_spaced, yeah I think that's what is happenning sadly my expertise are not enough to help you with that :/ maybe update your udev or kernel
[06:32] <Markus_P> well i reinstalled windows
[06:32] <Markus_P> and i can't get the grub menu to come up
[06:32] <pmjdebruijn> My Realtek 8169 is being recognized as a Realtek 8129, this happened after I installed some upgrades, so I guess my PCI id map got borked or something? What package contains the PCI ids?
[06:32] <Markus_P> windows re wrote the mbr
[06:32] <uber_spaced> trappist, that seemed to fix it; now If i could isolate the cause...
[06:32] <Pygi> markus: windows replaces grub L.
[06:32] <trappist> uber_spaced: and make sure you have something like "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" in /etc/hosts
[06:32] <mike__> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=62219 <---i have the same problem, please help me
[06:32] <uber_spaced> trappist, yes, I do.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  windows over wrote the mbr, you mearly need to some how boot back to the ubuntu install and rerun the grub installer.
[06:32] <gnomefreak> Markus_P, your using windows now?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  you still have the ubuntu install cd?
[06:32] <Markus_P> no
[06:32] <trappist> uber_spaced: I've noticed that on ubuntu, if other devices fail to start at boot, lo will fail to start also.
[06:32] <Markus_P> i'm using ubuntu live right now
[06:33] <trappist> uber_spaced: other network devices, I mean
[06:33] <Markus_P> yes Dr_Willis  i still have the install
[06:33] <uber_spaced> the problem usually happens a couple of hours after I am on the box; the address on eth0 will just dissappear.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> ahh you are on the live cd even now. :P good
[06:33] <gnomefreak> i found its easier to re-install ubuntu but all depends on what you have saved in ubuntu
[06:33] <Pygi> Markus: good, then put in the install cd, and go to the grub installer :P
[06:33] <Markus_P> well
[06:33] <trappist> uber_spaced: and take lo with it?
[06:33] <Pygi> willis: hehe :)
[06:33] <uber_spaced> trappist, it looks like it did this time.
[06:33] <Markus_P> i'm thinking i'm at the point of reinstalling ubuntu
[06:34] <trappist> uber_spaced: sucky
[06:34] <uber_spaced> I didnt see the lo thing before because I didnt notice it i guess.
[06:34] <mike__> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=62219 <---i have the same problem, please help me
[06:34] <Pygi> gnomefreak: why suggesting reinstall? :/
[06:34] <uber_spaced> well, at least I dont have to reboot.
[06:34] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  i didnt i said i found that easiest for me
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> reinstallimng grub should be a rather trivial task.. but it does help if you understand how grub and the booting system works.
[06:34] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, that's almost the same :P
[06:34] <gnomefreak> ive tried the grub fixes and none worked for me
[06:34] <Markus_P> well Dr_Willis  i figured the same thing
[06:34] <moots>  I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 onto my laptop which is a Dell Inspiron 1100 and I have been having problems with not being able to change out of the 640x480 screen resolution.  I have gone in the X server and changed the monitor settings and nothing seems to help.  I have checked forums and I'm lost to as why it does work.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[06:35] <Markus_P> i did lots of reading before reinstalling windows
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   - seems rather clear to me. :P
[06:35] <Markus_P> figured i understood it
[06:35] <Markus_P> well i follow it to a tea
[06:35] <uber_spaced> trappist, yeah, it's really annoying.
[06:35] <Pygi> moots: go to /etc/xorg.conf
[06:35] <Markus_P> and it's not working
[06:35] <Pygi> moots: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey all, can someone remind me of the command line command for downloading bit torrents?
[06:35] <karlan> how do i create a bootdisk on a floppy to boot ubuntu instead?
[06:35] <moots> pygi, i'm there
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  you still get no menu eh.. means ya proberly did somtning wrong. Lol.
[06:36] <Markus_P> well i pasted almost everything
[06:36] <Pygi> well, in screen section, rearange resolutions so that the one you wanna use is first
[06:36] <Markus_P> cept of course my hard drive info
[06:36] <MrRio> Chris_in_the_uk: btdownloadcurses
[06:36] <jono> hi all
[06:36] <Chris_in_the_uk> MrRio: Cheers
[06:36] <Morrowyn> when i double click the cdrom, it gets noexec mounted , any idea where i can remove this noexec thing?
[06:36] <moots> yeah, it's set for the right sizes
[06:36] <Markus_P> okies
[06:36] <Markus_P> i give up
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  if you Knwo the Grub style names for your hard drives - you can use  the section called  "Recovering GRUB Manually"
[06:36] <Pygi> moots: have you restarted X?
[06:36] <jono> I just tried compiling 2.6.14 on breezy and I get Kernel panic- not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - is this an initrd related problem?
[06:36] <moots> yep
[06:36] <Markus_P> i did that
[06:36] <Markus_P> got errors too
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  HOWEVER - if you added a new partition or some how altereed the order.. you will need to make changes to the hd0,0 and so forth.
[06:37] <Markus_P> nothing should have changed
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> what/where did you reinstall windows to?
[06:37] <Markus_P> i just formated the c drive and reinstalled windows
[06:37] <cowbud> what is the easiest way to compare to files and spit out just the difference without any special > < characters in it. Can you do that with diff?\
[06:37] <Markus_P> didn't mess with any partitions
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> and C: had always been the windows drive?
[06:38] <Markus_P> yep
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Im betting ya did some typo somewhere. :()
[06:38] <derms> how come ubuntu's gcc doesnt work right
[06:38] <Markus_P> i've retried it 3 or 4 times now
[06:38] <lucasvo> derms: you need to install it
[06:38] <derms> tell lucasvo i did
[06:39] <yuacht> ok im trying to do a fresh install of ubu 5.10 on my new 80gb harddrive... but when it comes to "installing the 'grub' package..." everything just stops, no load, no movement... nothing, it's like it freezes... any ideas?
[06:39] <Pygi> moots: just a sec pls
[06:39] <Markus_P> everything appears to working up until i try to recover grub automatically
[06:39] <radaway> derms, doens't work right?
[06:39] <derms> now when i try to configure this program it keeps spitting out that gcc can't create executables
[06:39] <gnomefreak> derms, did you install build-essential?
[06:39] <Markus_P> so that tutorial i shared with you Dr_Willis ..... says to try and recover grub manually
[06:39] <Pygi> moots: tried dexconf?
[06:39] <khermans> I've set my alias in bash_profile, but it doesn't work!
[06:39] <Markus_P> which gives me more errors
[06:39] <moots> no, i havent heard of that
[06:39] <Morrowyn> how to disable the noexec option on the ubuntu auto mount stuff ?
[06:40] <derms> i didnt gnomefreak, thanks very much for the suggestion, im very new to linux
[06:40] <gnomefreak> derms,  you may not have the gcc base insalled or the wrong compile command or wrong gcc for the code?
[06:40] <Pygi> moots: start that in command line
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,   Until? hmm thats an alternative method. you should be able to just  boot the live cd. and in a root shell, run 'grub' and type those commands.
[06:40] <MickMcMack> Zomg, Mick has sound, after 3 months of struggling. x)
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Markus_P,  no need to mount stuff or do the other things at the start.
[06:40] <moots> it doesnt do anything
[06:41] <moots> just starts a new blank line
[06:41] <Pygi> it "configures" X server again
[06:41] <Pygi> try restarting X
[06:42] <moots> how?
[06:42] <didier> what
[06:42] <Pygi> moots: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+backapce is one way
[06:42] <moots> ok
[06:42] <MrRio> moots: better if u log out first
[06:42] <gnomefreak> moots
[06:43] <Pygi> gnomefreak: backapce :D
[06:43] <gnomefreak> lol oops
[06:43] <Pygi> hehe :)
[06:43] <Draken-ow> err,
[06:43] <Draken-ow> i need help with grub ppl
[06:43] <gnomefreak> my typing is gettting worse
[06:43] <Draken-ow> how do i add a linux install to it
[06:43] <Pygi> gnomefreak: will be better :)
[06:44] <moots> it says something about permission denied
[06:44] <gnomefreak> moots use sudo
[06:44] <khermans> I can set my alias for bash from the command line, but i want to make it permanent -- sticking it in bash_profile or bash_aliases has no effect -- any help?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> wait a min.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> gesh its grub day today. :P
[06:45] <gnomefreak> moots restarting X shouldnt need permissions
[06:45] <moots> ok, it now just gives me a new line like before
[06:45] <karlan> Dr_Willis, would it work to reinstall grub? would that make a default setting?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> khermans,  those files get read at login.   you use .bashrc or .bash_profile
[06:45] <Draken-ow> __
[06:45] <Draken-ow> # For booting Linux
[06:45] <Draken-ow> title  Woody
[06:45] <Draken-ow> root (hd0,0)
[06:45] <Draken-ow> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-devfs-ntfs-2.1.3
[06:45] <Draken-ow> initrd /boot/miniwody1.gz
[06:45] <Draken-ow> can someone help me set that for mine ?
[06:45] <khermans> Dr_Willis, i am using my ~/.bash_profile
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> karlan,  grub gets ont he MBR. and it then looks for the menu config file..  its that simple. :p
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  please dont paste in here use pastebin
[06:46] <Draken-ow> ok gnomefreak
[06:46] <Draken-ow> can u help me thou ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> khermans,  that file gets read only by new LOGIN shells..    toss in a line like "echo 'this is .bash_profile'  "  tjhen try xterm, and xterm -l (i think) theres a diffreance
[06:46] <nalioth> Draken-ow: the /topic is for folks to read when the enter channels (ours mentions using a pastebin to paste)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> khermans,  most likely you want the changes in .bashrc
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Draken-ow about grub
[06:47] <khermans> Dr_Willis, ah ok thankss -- yeah even opening a new gnome-terminal had no effect
[06:47] <nalioth> khermans: put them in ~/.bashrc
[06:47] <derms> is there an APT package for gtk?
[06:47] <ice-t> WAAA! the windows-installation just killed all my partitions on the harddisk
[06:47] <nalioth> derms: yes there are. plenty of them
[06:47] <fyrzen> happened to me once...
[06:47] <khermans> ice-t, doubtful unless you chose t format
[06:47] <rolphin> Hi everyone, my usbkey is correctly detected but konqueror tries media:/sda, and my key is mounted on /media/usbdisk ? What can I do ?
[06:48] <MickMcMack> ice-t, probably not - it probably just overwrote the MBR.
[06:48] <karlan> Dr_Willis, well, how come my recent mbrlist got overwrited?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> khermans,  theres a logic and reason for this stuff. :P but its been aroudn for so long.. a lot of the reasons dont apply much,.
[06:48] <karlan> i only got a windows xp (loader) in the list now
[06:48] <ice-t> MickMcMack, gparted doesn't find any partition
[06:48] <karlan> and that wont work at all
[06:48] <MickMcMack> xD
[06:48] <john__> what is everyone's favourite mp3 players?
[06:48] <MickMcMack> mplayer. x)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> karlan,  then your menu list/grub config  some how got  messed up it seems.
[06:48] <ice-t> xmms (it was :-()
[06:48] <khermans> john__, many like MPC/MPD
[06:48] <fyrzen> bmp
[06:48] <karlan> Dr_Willis, do you know where the config is located?
[06:48] <ice-t> kaffeine was good, too
[06:49] <khermans> john__, xmms, rhythmbox, etc are alternatives
[06:49] <john__> cool
[06:49] <gnomefreak> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:49] <khermans> john__, amarok is great for KDE
[06:49] <Draken-ow> sigh gnomefreak
[06:49] <john__> and mpc/mpd for gnome?
[06:49] <Draken-ow> can u not just help me
[06:49] <Draken-ow> i dont know wat kernal name is
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  did you read the pages ubotu sent you?
[06:49] <Draken-ow> yes
[06:50] <Draken-ow> just blabber to me
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> karlan,  grubs config is in /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.conf - as i recall.
[06:50] <MrRio> john__: amarok is the best music player..
[06:50] <Draken-ow> yes Dr_Willis
[06:50] <Draken-ow> i dont know wat to do
[06:50] <MrRio> in my opinion
[06:50] <moots> has anyone installed ubuntu on a dell inspiron 1100?
[06:50] <Draken-ow> wat settings are
[06:50] <rolphin> MrRio: I can't read radio streams with amarok, it keeps buffering... wtf ?
[06:50] <Draken-ow> for ubuntu
[06:50] <john__> MrRio, for gnome aswell?
[06:51] <stephan> hy
[06:51] <john__> khermans, is MPC/MPD text or GUI?
[06:51] <nalioth> rolphin: sounds like a network issue
[06:51] <MrRio> john__, yeah io always use gnome, amarok is the only qt app i use
[06:51] <stephan> wadz goin on heer?
[06:51] <Draken-ow> CAN sopmeone please help me
[06:51] <Draken-ow> without pasting web sites
[06:51] <john__> MrRio, qt?
[06:52] <MrRio> rolphin: keeps buffering? the xine-engine is by far the best, give that a go
[06:52] <rolphin> MrRio: ok i'll try
[06:52] <nalioth> Draken-ow: the web sites have info to help you.
[06:52] <MrRio> john__,  yeah, qt is to kde what gtk is to gnome
[06:52] <karlan> brb
[06:52] <rolphin> MrRio: gstreamer-engine issue may be ?
[06:52] <Effi> hi
[06:52] <Draken-ow> nalioth
[06:52] <Effi> can me say someone, how i can change the video speed in mplayer?
[06:52] <Draken-ow> i dont have time to do read it
[06:53] <MrRio> rolphin: yeah, i always have gstreamer issues, ive had aa much better time with xine-based stuff under ubuntu
[06:53] <gnomefreak> this is a help channel not a do it for me channel :(
[06:53] <Draken-ow> gnomefreak
[06:53] <Draken-ow> its not a redirect to website channel ethier
[06:54] <nalioth> Draken-ow: we aim to help folks help themselves here.
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  anyone can tell you how to do it but that doesnt help you
[06:54] <Draken-ow> i dont want to learn how to run grub
[06:54] <Draken-ow> i just want to get windows and linux booting together
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  you came in here asking how to change grub
[06:55] <Draken-ow> no gnome
[06:55] <BxL> people who fear learning are funny
[06:55] <stephan> could someone tell me how i could install some MP3-Pugins or similar?
[06:55] <Draken-ow> i came to ask wat kernal name is
[06:55] <Draken-ow> nothing else
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  you asked how to put woody in the grub config file
[06:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stephan about mp3
[06:55] <afief> **kernel name
[06:55] <Draken-ow> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-devfs-ntfs-2.1.3
[06:55] <Draken-ow> initrd /boot/miniwody1.gz
[06:55] <Draken-ow> i need those two lines
[06:55] <olicat> has anyone had any luck getting a d-link wireless dls-G604Y wireless router working with ubuntu?
[06:55] <john__> ubotu: tell john__ about mp3
[06:56] <Draken-ow> just for ubuntu
[06:56] <olicat> sorry, thats a DSL-G604T router
[06:56] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  to get kernel for ubuntu type in terminal uname -r
[06:56] <Draken-ow> dude
[06:56] <fyrzen> anyone manage to install real player on Breezy?
[06:56] <gnomefreak> that will give you the kernel
[06:56] <Draken-ow> i cant get into linux anymore
[06:57] <afief> fyrzen: yes installed flawlessly
[06:57] <fyrzen> the link to the .deb package on real.com is always dead, i used alien to convert the .rpm to deb but it didn't qork well
[06:57] <fyrzen> afief - where'd you get it from?
[06:58] <nalioth> fyrzen: try the helix player
[06:58] <afief> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[06:58] <fyrzen> thx i'll do that
[06:58] <Draken-ow> gnomefreak
[06:58] <afief> always check wiki.ubuntu.com first(i learned that two days ago:))
[06:58] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  you running windows right now?
[06:58] <Draken-ow> yes
[06:58] <Draken-ow> ive got grub for windows
[06:59] <gnomefreak> you cant change grub from windows to begin with that im aware of
[06:59] <Draken-ow> err
[06:59] <Draken-ow> i got grub for windows
[06:59] <Draken-ow> dont worry about that
[06:59] <gnomefreak> Draken-ow,  i dont know anything about "grub for windows" :(
[06:59] <Draken-ow> it works
[06:59] <Draken-ow> dude
[06:59] <Draken-ow> its same thing
[06:59] <Draken-ow> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[06:59] <Draken-ow> with that
[06:59] <Draken-ow> wat would the kernal thing i need be ?
[07:01] <erUSUL> !enter
[07:01] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:01] <gnomefreak> latest breezy kernel was 2.6.12-10 or 2.6.10-12?
[07:01] <gnomefreak> i dont remember :(
[07:01] <Draken> gnomefreak
[07:01] <BxL> 2.6.12-10-
[07:01] <Draken> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[07:02] <Draken> i used that to install
[07:02] <gnomefreak> ty BxL
[07:02] <Draken> wat would my kernal thing be ?
[07:02] <flixil> 258
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> the kernel version - would be whatever one you last updated to, and booted from.
[07:04] <flixil> /me is only trying to think... And he's having problems
[07:04] <flixil> ouch xD
[07:04] <gnomefreak> Draken,  my suggestion is to read the how-tos for grub when you have more time seeing as we dont know anything about your system and how its partioned and nothing like that
[07:05] <Khisanth> you can use "uname -r" to see which kernal you are currently using
[07:05] <gnomefreak> why not i can
[07:06] <gnomefreak> the output from it was 2.6.15-8-386
[07:06] <BxL> using a 386 kernel is quite weird
[07:06] <gnomefreak> not for a p2
[07:07] <BxL> true that
[07:07] <gnomefreak> sorry Khisanth  i read that wrong :((
[07:08] <gnomefreak> yeah see i gave him that command 20 mins ago he could have read the wiki and fixed it by now :(
[07:08] <BxL> :( indeed
[07:09] <GameCat> hi - can anyone help me figure out why apache2 won't serve https:// ?
[07:09] <trappist> GameCat: you have to configure it to do so
[07:09] <GameCat> trappist: i thought I had :)
[07:09] <Stormx2> I must use X11 with 8 bit color depth. how do I go about this?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  Must?
[07:10] <GameCat> I have the site files edited and in the right places, the cert generated, the document root set
[07:10] <oveh> what im client to people use? amsn, gaim other?
[07:10] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: for something I am trying ;-)
[07:10] <moots> gaim
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> this sounds like one of those odd "i have to do...." questions where the user is confuised. Lol...
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Stormx2, if you want to change it do it in the xserver-xorg config file
[07:10] <cmatheson> Stormx2: change the 'DefaultDepth' in your xorg.conf file to 8
[07:10] <Stormx2> ok
[07:10] <GameCat> trappist: basically, I've done everything on breezy that i did on hoary, and it doesn't work :/
[07:10] <Stormx2> where is my xorg.conf file?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> start a vnc session and vncviewer  thats only 8 bit color. is an easier test
[07:10] <Raskall> what tools can I use to tune my sata harddrive in ubuntu? my values from hdparm -tT is way lower than hits I've found on google with the same hardware.
[07:10] <oveh> moots: is it possible to set a personal picture in msn with gaim?
[07:10] <fyrzen> /etc/X11/
[07:11] <moots> no idea
[07:11] <trappist> GameCat: define "doesn't work" (and never use that phrase again :))
[07:11] <cmatheson> oveh: yes, do it in the accounts option dialog box
[07:11] <yuacht> ok im trying to do a fresh install of ubu 5.10 on my new 80gb harddrive... but when it comes to "installing the 'grub' package..." everything just stops, no load, no movement... nothing, it's like it freezes... any ideas?
[07:11] <moots> should be
[07:11] <yuacht> it's a SAtA drive
[07:11] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: No can do. I'm playing MP3s with my monitor =D
[07:11] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <GameCat> trappist: browsers cannot connect - apache starts/restarts fine with ssl configs in place
[07:11] <AndrewX> "Kernel Panic: VFS: not syncing" errors at boot on a clean install of Breezy. I got both an IDE and SATA drive and I think that's it, but can't figure out what to do to get it to boot.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  Huh? that made no sence.. dare we ask WHAT you are doing that you need 8 bit color?
[07:11] <oveh> cmatheson: thanx :)
[07:11] <gnomefreak> may want to use gksudo there
[07:12] <trappist> GameCat: can't connect as in they timeout? connection refused? permission denied? what?
[07:12] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: Playing Mp3s with my monitor. I told you ^_^
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, asking those questions tend to hurt sometimes :)
[07:12] <joeljkp> i'm using alsa with oss emu and alsa-based esd; i have 2 sound cards, the first of which doesn't work; when i use an oss app, i can't hear anything; how do i set the default sound card for oss apps?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  good luck.. have a nice day.. good by.. :P
[07:12] <GameCat> trappist: An error occurred while loading https://localhost: Could not connect to host localhost.
[07:12] <GameCat> trappist: and I've checked, it's not iptables stopping it :)
[07:13] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: I've already played music on it with eliza, but mp3 is the next level ^_^
[07:13] <cmatheson> joeljkp: i think the only way to make a "default" is just to symlink the one you want to use to /dev/dsp and rename the other one to /dev/dsp2 or whatever
[07:13] <Stormx2> brb, restarting X
[07:13] <trappist> GameCat: fuser -v -n tcp 443
[07:13] <joeljkp> cmatheson: but how does that interact with udev?
[07:13] <GameCat> trappist: 443/tcp              root      13284 f....  apache2
[07:14] <GameCat> trappist: several times
[07:14] <fyrzen> Can anyone recommend a command-line mp3 player, with more features than mpg321?
[07:14] <trappist> GameCat: good.  now, what if you use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost
[07:14] <GameCat> trappist: same error
[07:14] <trappist> fyrzen: there are dozens if not hundreds.  what features are you looking for?
[07:14] <trappist> GameCat: netstat -ntlp | grep 443
[07:15] <Stormx2> 8 bit color is pwetty
[07:15] <yuacht> seriously, i need help :( the install hangs at "Installing the grub package.."
[07:15] <pinkisntwell> if I install xubuntu-desktop what will happen to gnome?
[07:15] <fyrzen> trappist: support for mpc files, visualizations, playlist display
[07:15] <trappist> yuacht: shot in the dark... is your root (boot?) partition xfs?
[07:15] <GameCat> trappist: tcp6       0      0 :::443                  :::*                    LISTEN     13284/apache2
[07:16] <GameCat> trappist: does that mean it's not listening for ipv4?
[07:16] <joeljkp> cmatheson: well, you're exactly right
[07:16] <trappist> GameCat: that tcp6 looks very weird to me
[07:16] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  nothing
[07:16] <joeljkp> cmatheson: just gotta figure out how to do that with udev
[07:16] <cmatheson> joeljkp: they are still device files... you'd just have to do it every time you rebooted (or change the order the modules are loaded somehow)
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> pinkisntwell,  you can select gnome or kde at the login screen.
[07:16] <pinkisntwell> gnome or kde or xfce or whatever?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, when you are at login you can choose what desktop you want
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> pinkisntwell,  you can select gnome or kde or whatever... :P
[07:16] <s1gnAl> how do I open a terminal window? I can not find it in the menus.....
[07:16] <_TomB> anyone here had experience remastering the livecd?
[07:17] <pinkisntwell> nice... but isn't the login screen part of gnome?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> pinkisntwell,  kde has its own 'kdm' gnome uses 'gdm'
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> you can use either one.
[07:17] <cfa> has anyone have an Atheros internal mini wireless card to work
[07:17] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  the sessions button lets you do that (button maybe wrong word)
[07:17] <GameCat> trappist: running that command on port 80 gets the same tcp6 thingy, and that works okay
[07:17] <pinkisntwell> so gdm will let me run kde or whatever?
[07:17] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: yes, just choose the kde session from the menu
[07:17] <trappist> GameCat: see if you get a better error message with a different browser.  I don't know what that one is supposed to mean.
[07:17] <gnomefreak> s1gnAl, applications>accessories>terminal
[07:18] <s1gnAl> ahh dangit
[07:18] <existance_> i installed mysql onto my apache2 server, how do i change the user and password it takes?
[07:18] <s1gnAl> I see it now, thanks
[07:18] <Stormx2> Yhg. I need the "amp" package now
[07:18] <Stormx2> *searches*
[07:18] <gnomefreak> s1gnAl, they moved it in breezy :)
[07:18] <cmatheson> existance: check out the docs on mysql.com, they're pretty comprehensive
[07:18] <trappist> existance_: you should read the mysql docs, where all that and much more is very well documented.
[07:18] <drakenlol> wat can i use to explore a linux drive
[07:18] <drakenlol> from windows
[07:18] <existance_> cmatheson, thanks
[07:19] <GameCat> trappist: in firefox I get a popup dialog saying "The conection to localhost has been terminated unexpectedly. Some data may have been transferred."
[07:19] <pinkisntwell> I'm thinking of installing xfce because gnome is slooooooooow here. will my apps work with xfce?
[07:19] <trappist> drakenlol: explore2fs if your filesystem is ext2/3
[07:19] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  yes
[07:19] <drakenlol> ta
[07:19] <drakenlol> since u guys dont want to help me find kernal
[07:19] <yuacht> In the ubuntu 5.10 install,is there anyway to choose to install LILO instead of Grub?
[07:19] <drakenlol> going to explore linux drive and get it from there
[07:19] <trappist> GameCat: oh, you probably want to check your apache logs then.  my guess is something's wrong with your ssl negotiation.
[07:19] <drakenlol> there is yuacht
[07:19] <drakenlol> and u should do it
[07:20] <drakenlol> grub is a piece of shit
[07:20] <gnomefreak> yuacht, i think you have to install lilo first
[07:20] <GameCat> trappist: right, I'll go look - they in /var/log?
[07:20] <cfa> has anyone have an Atheros internal mini wireless card to work
[07:20] <cmatheson> yuacht: no, there's no reason to install lilo instead... it's just personal preference
[07:20] <existance> tarball just means it is grouped in a .tar right?
[07:20] <trappist> GameCat: by default, /var/log/apache2/error.log
[07:20] <cmatheson> existance: right
[07:20] <gnomefreak> if i remember correctly lilo is a beast comapred to grub trying to configure
[07:21] <existance> cmatheson, bah, what doesn't anyone say that anywhere
[07:21] <trappist> gnomefreak: not at all
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  :P depends...
[07:21] <existance> cmatheson, err why
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> grub is more flexable , and thus more complex in ways
[07:21] <greg> sevean you still there?
[07:21] <oveh> is there a IM client for linux which you can change skins/themes on?
[07:21] <cmatheson> existance: i don't know... it's just one of those things everyone takes for granted
[07:22] <GameCat> trappist: I think I'm on to something here - "[Thu Dec 29 18:04:23 2005]  [warn]  RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `192.168.0.3' does NOT match server name!?"
[07:22] <greg> does firestarter change or mask your ip address?
[07:22] <trappist> GameCat: try running 'sudo apache2-ssl-certificate'
[07:23] <joeljkp> cmatheson: do you know how to set the proper sampling rate, etc. for oss?
[07:23] <cfa> anyone know wireless
[07:23] <yuacht> when i make a custom swap partition, do i make it primary or logical?
[07:23] <nalioth> yuacht: it matters not
[07:23] <jhenn> how do i burn a .bin file to a floppy?
[07:23] <yuacht> really?
[07:23] <omg> ok can someone tell me
[07:23] <trappist> jhenn: dd if=file.bin of=/dev/fd0
[07:23] <omg> this part of the boot
[07:24] <omg> root		(hd1,0)
[07:24] <cmatheson> joeljkp: hmm, i'm not sure... i don't really get that deep into my sound setup...
[07:24] <greg> anybody know about Firestarter firewall?
[07:24] <omg> wat hd1,0 is ?
[07:24] <joe1> can someone plz help me set up java?
[07:24] <trappist> !tell joe1 about java
[07:24] <mevvis> j2re1.4
[07:24] <cfa> exit
[07:24] <joe1> thank u
[07:24] <greg> last time I tried to set up Java through apt-get I had a time
[07:25] <greg> have you tried apt-get yet? joel?
[07:25] <omg> can someone help me
[07:25] <omg> root		(hd1,0)
[07:25] <ROBOd> hello guys
[07:25] <omg> i know my linux hdd is hdc1
[07:25] <ROBOd> how to add Places to Gnome?
[07:25] <omg> so how does that work ?
[07:25] <jhenn> trappist: that doesn't work
[07:25] <ROBOd> places ... local folders
[07:25] <jhenn> greg i do
[07:25] <greg> cool, firestarter?
[07:25] <lesshaste> what do people use to rip film dvds?
[07:25] <bshumate> !tell greg about firestarter
[07:26] <jhenn> lesshaste: i heard of something called dvd::rip
[07:26] <ilba7r> !ndiswrapper
[07:26] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:26] <greg> here's my question, I had set up apache2 and it was working fine on 8080 and then
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> lesshaste,  'dvd:rip'
[07:26] <greg> I installed firestarter and no longer was able to see it,
[07:26] <jhenn> trappist: that command doesn't work
[07:26] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis: hmm.. I am using that... 32fps!
[07:26] <greg> then someone last night helped me figure it out.
[07:26] <lesshaste> is dvd::rip fast for some people??
[07:26] <trappist> jhenn: heard you the first time.  waiting for information I can work with.
[07:26] <ilba7r> !firmware
[07:26] <ubotu> ilba7r: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:26] <ilba7r> !ipv6
[07:26] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> it can be a very cpu intensive task.
[07:27] <greg> and I can have public access my site, but the ip of my computer seems to be different
[07:27] <greg> is that possible?
[07:27] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis: cpu usage is near zero. I am just copying
[07:27] <greg> http://64-203-185-115.va.mvl.ntelos.net:8081/
[07:27] <greg> it used to be 64.4.119.177:8080
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> lesshaste,  it is coppying 4+Gb of data
[07:28] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis: at 31fps :)
[07:28] <Stormx2> mp3player.cpp:134: int main(int, char**): Assertion `input != __null' failed.
[07:28] <Stormx2>  <-- Any idea what I need to do to correct that?
[07:28] <Stormx2> Oop, sorry for the newline.
[07:28] <jeffisageek> ok i have a question...i have a shared drive that i can access via my linux machine.  I would like to create a folder i can access on my windows laptop...how do I go about being able to access the linux folder from my windows pc?
[07:28] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis: the point is that for some people vobcopy runs in minutes...
[07:28] <trappist> jhenn: looks like it worked
[07:28] <uber_spaced> !samba
[07:28] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:28] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis: for others.. including me.. the only thing that works is dvd::rip that takes hours
[07:29] <omg> can someone help me
[07:29] <omg> root		(hd1,0)
[07:29] <omg> i know my linux hdd is hdc1
[07:29] <omg> so how does that work ?
[07:29] <jhenn> trappist: its not on the disk
[07:29] <trappist> jhenn: what makes you say that.  did you mount it?
[07:29] <s0n1cm0nk3y> hey can someone with a dual boot post their grub plz
[07:29] <s0n1cm0nk3y> Im having issues with windows
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> omg,  hda = (hd0) hdb=(hd1)
[07:29] <omg> ok ta
[07:30] <omg> and the ,0 after hd1 ? mean nothing ?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> omg,  grub starts counting at 0, and skips iover the cdrom drives.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> omg,  partion #1 = 0
[07:30] <yuacht> ehm my sata disk detects as "hda", why is that?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> hda1 = hd0,0
[07:30] <ROBOd> how to add Places to Gnome?
[07:30] <jhenn> trappist: when i ran the command the floppy didn't make a noises like it was writing
[07:30] <omg> Dr_Willis
[07:30] <KenMasters> "can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[07:30] <KenMasters> " what happend?
[07:31] <omg> err my hda1 = windows, and i am using hd1
[07:31] <omg> to do that
[07:31] <gnomefreak> places menu?
[07:31] <Yan__> Hello
[07:31] <trappist> jhenn: oh, maybe your floppy isn't /dev/fd0... or maybe you typoed /dev/fd0?
[07:31] <Yan__> I have In the other computer ubuntu, Ive installed KDE but on start up It write me: Ubuntu:)  how can I change it to Kubunu?
[07:32] <Kindred> ROBOd, check out Bookmarks from the menu in Nautilus.. click a folder and add/edit - it does work a little odd but it's usable
[07:32] <greg> peace
[07:32] <jhenn> trappist: well its mounted in nautilus, how can i see what device it is
[07:32] <xiaogil> When  I try to remove phpmyamdin from my computer, I get the following error msg: Removing phpmyadmin ...
[07:32] <xiaogil> /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[07:32] <xiaogil> what can I do ?
[07:33] <rolphin> where can I found a good sourcelist.txt file ?
[07:33] <trappist> jhenn: I don't use nautilus... you can open a console window and type 'mount'
[07:33] <trappist> rolphin: wtf is sourcelist.txt
[07:33] <yuacht> ok so now it works.. i had to make the root partition reiserfs instead of ext3
[07:34] <flixil>  ehmm /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:34] <s0n1cm0nk3y> Hey, anyone mind posting their grub.conf up here? plz?
[07:34] <vini12341234> hey guys, im sharing a folder from ubuntu with samba, and windows is asking me for a domain username and password. any help please?
[07:35] <InverseCow> Hello, anyone else having problems burning with Serpentine?  I keep getting an error that I do not have enough space on my cache directory?
[07:35] <trappist> vini12341234: sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[07:35] <ilba7r> Yan_ i do not understand what you mean please clarify
[07:36] <yuacht> ilba7r i think he means either the boot sequence or the login screen
[07:36] <ilba7r> Yan_ do you mean the log in screen
[07:36] <vini12341234> awesome thanks
[07:37] <ilba7r> yuacht i think that too but maybe he did not install kubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <sureshot> hello does anyone here do develoment work in the gambas environment
[07:38] <flixil> is there any xfce-desktop?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> i think he means the sessions on login screen
[07:38] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> flixil,  yes.. "xubuntu-desktop'
[07:38] <flixil> xubuntu-desktop xD
[07:38] <flixil> i was thinking on that name
[07:38] <speedracer> hi everyone
[07:39] <jhenn> when i do cat /proc/cpuinfo which entry is cpu speed?
[07:39] <flixil> and what's diferent on have only xfce installed?
[07:39] <flixil> configuration?
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell flixil about xubuntu
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> flixil,  the meta-package isntalls all related xfce tools as well
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> and is a lot easier to type. :P
[07:39] <MickMcMack> jhaa, cpu MHZ tells you the clockspeed.
[07:40] <Draken> how do i like install a pkg i download
[07:40] <flixil> mmm ok... I prefer the choose myself :) thanks Dr_Willis
[07:40] <Draken> i got the bridge nat thing
[07:41] <flixil> Draken, dpkg -i name.deb
[07:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Draken about deb
[07:41] <sureshot> does any one here do develoment work in gambas
[07:41] <Draken> its not a deb file
[07:41] <Moodles> I can't find nmap on my ubuntu install. and i dont know what package I need if i dont have it
[07:41] <flixil> nalioth, burnout?
[07:41] <trappist> Moodles: try the nmap package.  or apt-cache search nmap
[07:41] <nalioth> Draken: please start asking informative questions
[07:42] <nalioth> Moodles: nmap is a console program
[07:42] <flixil> oh yes, it's a debian package or what tipe?
[07:42] <sureshot> Dracken was y ou telling me that gambas is not a deb file ???????????????
[07:42] <Draken> gambas ?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> no sureshot
[07:42] <hd420> hmm...
[07:42] <flixil> Draken, .tar*
[07:43] <sureshot> ok you said something i did not follow it is hard for me to follow scrooling tex
[07:43] <sureshot> sorry
[07:43] <Draken> brcfg.tgz
[07:43] <Korat> hallo
[07:43] <gnomefreak> thats what i was afraid of:(
[07:43] <sureshot> i need help with gambas if anyone here knows it
[07:44] <Korat> jemand deutsches hier, der mir vielleicht bei einem kleinen soundprob helfen kann?
[07:44] <nalioth> !de
[07:44] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:44] <gnomefreak> tgz file you have to compile
[07:44] <gnomefreak> Draken,  i would look for a .deb file for that instead of the taz
[07:45] <Draken> k
[07:45] <kloske> hi@all
[07:46] <versaily> can someone plz instruct me on installing java on ppc?
[07:46] <versaily> (i know there is a website on the wiki ubuntu but don't no the name...)
[07:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell versaily about javappc
[07:46] <gnomefreak> what is brcfg?
[07:46] <versaily> thx
[07:46] <gnomefreak> i cant apt-cache search it :(
[07:47] <AMD_> when i open a terminal window, it always is too small.  How can i change the default window size when it opens ?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> check the menus for all the settings you can twiddlw with :P
[07:48] <AMD_> Dr_Willis: i did ;)
[07:48] <gnomefreak> AMD_,  is it only the terminal?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> AMD_,  mine fills up most of the screen...
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> actually it fills up close to 3/4 of the screen
[07:48] <AMD_> gnomefreak: yep
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  man thats huge
[07:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  :P i got a huge font set - lol..
[07:49] <AMD_> Dr_Willis: mine is fairly small.  I always have to make it bigger to fit the 80 col width
[07:49] <_TomB> Anyone got experience remastering the LiveCD?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> ya coukld always  make a new launcher icon on the panel and edit the command it runs.
[07:50] <AMD_> Dr_Willis: yea, will probably try something like that.  Just thought there was an easier way.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> my screen res made mine bigger :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> AMD_,  that is an easy way :P
[07:50] <AMD_> Dr_Willis: :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> AMD_,  that way you could have different buttons for different ones.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> pink and blue and green and on different desktops :P
[07:51] <AMD_> next thing...how do you change 'extension' associations?  right now .mp3 files are running with 'totem'.  I want them to open with xmms
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> or just go use 'xterm'  :P
[07:51] <nalioth> AMD_: right click in the file mangler and do the properties dance
[07:51] <Darthbudge> Hello I have some Questions I recently installed Ubuntu linux on my secondary hard drive and everything went fine until it asked me too reboot and when I did it told me "Error booting OS" could any one help?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> xterm is tiny
[07:51] <AMD_> nalioth: whatcha mean ?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> its half the size of gnome term
[07:52] <nalioth> AMD_: like in windows, you can right click on files and tell them what to open with
[07:52] <AMD_> nalioth: oh. ok.  there is no central location for file associations though ?
[07:52] <cmatheson> AMD_: so this may not interest you, but if you dig xmms i would also suggest you taking a look at beep-media-player (it's a little bit radder in that it's gtk2 and what not)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Darthbudge, what error?
[07:53] <AMD_> cmatheson: thanks, will check it out
[07:53] <sureshot> does anyone know if there is a develoment channel and if there is how do i get to it
[07:53] <Badm4n> any2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:53] <Darthbudge> it just said "Error booting OS"
[07:53] <N6pfk> I get a kernel panic when doing a halt but not a restart while stopping LVM?  I am not loing data even though the hd led is on when I hard power off.
[07:53] <nalioth> sureshot: what do you need to know?
[07:53] <cmatheson> Badm4n: for simple setups you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix', otherwise i would suggest checking out the #postfix documentation/channel
[07:54] <sureshot> i am using gambas and cant run a simple program
[07:54] <sureshot> no errors
[07:54] <gnomefreak> Darthbudge, grub comes up gives you choice and linux you cant boot but windows you can?
[07:54] <Darthbudge> yeah
[07:54] <Badm4n> !ubotu tell me about postfix
[07:54] <Badm4n> !postfix
[07:55] <ubotu> Badm4n: Are you on ritalin?
[07:55] <sureshot> Darthbudge are you using SATA and ATA drives in the same computer
[07:55] <Darthbudge> ATA I belive
[07:55] <AMD_> hmmmm....I've got my MP3 collection shared from another server (debian).  Yet i can't play the files from this remote machine.  It acts like it loads, but never plays.  If i download the file locally it will then play.  Any ideas why this is ?
[07:55] <sureshot> only
[07:55] <Badm4n> ubotu no
[07:55] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[07:55] <gnomefreak> oops
[07:55] <polpak> AMD_ how is it "shared" ?
[07:55] <Badm4n> ubotu help me install postfix
[07:55] <trappist> AMD_: shared via apache? samba? nfs?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> sorry ubuntu please ignore that
[07:56] <AMD_> sorry....it's shared using samba
[07:56] <sureshot> Darthbudge i have problems getting ubuntu to workk when i run ide0 as ata and a sata drive together when the sata drive is the boot device
[07:56] <Badm4n> !postfix
[07:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Badm4n
[07:56] <polpak> AMD_ have you tried mounting the shared folder with smbfs ?
[07:56] <Darthbudge> I have 2 main hard drives in Raid 0 configuartion and one 80gb one that is by itself that is the one I am trying to install Linux on
[07:56] <Badm4n> !mail server
[07:56] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Badm4n
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Badm4n, the bot doesnt know those commands
[07:57] <Darthbudge> I think they are all ATA
[07:57] <AMD_> polpak: nope...just used the Places -> Connect to server way
[07:57] <Badm4n> :(
[07:57] <riffic> hello
[07:57] <riffic> I have a quick question about dual booting breezy and dapper
[07:57] <nalioth> Badm4n: why not ask your questions
[07:57] <riffic> is it possible to do it from the same /boot partition?
[07:57] <Darthbudge> or at least that is what it says when you are supposed to select the hard drive to install LInux on
[07:57] <riffic> if not, how should I set it up so they're on seperate partitions
[07:57] <polpak> AMD_, I've had problems with some software not recognizing the nautellus vfs.. I'd suggest using smbfs and mount
[07:58] <gnomefreak> nalioth, he did he wants to know how to set up postfix
[07:58] <sureshot> ok i wanted to clear that up it is not the drive config that is the problem... unless ubuntu is not load the raid driver it will lie soemwhare else. i am not good enough to help any further. just making sure it was not this probelm
[07:58] <Badm4n> any2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ? ( this is my 3rd question :D )
[07:58] <AMD_> polpak: ok, i'll give that a try.  thanks
[07:58] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone have any advice on how to mount a Linux network share?
[07:58] <sdschulze> Do you think I can install Debian's emacs-snapshot on Debian?
[07:58] <AMD_> yet another thing ;)  I'm trying to apt-get remove totem, and it wants to take ubuntu-desktop with it.  does ubuntu-desktop rely on totem or something ?
[07:58] <nalioth> Badm4n: if nobody knows, there will be no answer. try asking uncle google or come back here later (mayby try #postfix)
[07:58] <sdschulze> s/Debian/Ubuntu/2
[07:59] <N6pfk> How do I disble LVM?
[07:59] <lespinoz> I need a command to find a pakege
[07:59] <Linux_whore> Im about to partion for Ubuntu. Does it matter if I make the partitions primary or logical? Someone told me to make the partition mounted at / (root) primary. Is this correct?
[07:59] <riffic> lespinoz: apt-cache search
[07:59] <Darthbudge> hmm well can you give anything to try to fix this?
[07:59] <InverseCow> Anyone know how to fix the "No room on cache" error when you burn CD's in Ubuntu?
[07:59] <riffic> or check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <sureshot> well all i am off to the inlaws :( wish me luck LOL
[07:59] <immothep> hi together
[08:00] <KenMasters> driver for webcam creative PC CAM 350 ... where download?
[08:00] <Belboz99> Hey, I'm trying to use the mount command to mount a Linux share using the syntax located here: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html    but it doesn't work
[08:00] <polpak> AMD_, why remove totem?
[08:00] <psusi> N6pfk: just don't use it to format the drive when you install... don't choose that option
[08:00] <immothep> i whould like to install turbo gear
[08:00] <Vander> question: what file system should I use for a new partition of ubuntu?
[08:00] <Belboz99>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //debian/windowsshare
[08:01] <nalioth> Vander: ext3
[08:01] <AMD_> polpak: doesn't work.  keeps giving me anerror about a decoder not being there
[08:01] <Vander> thanks
[08:01] <immothep> but there is always a message "unable to execute gcc: No such file or directory"
[08:01] <psusi> Linux_whore: just let the ununtu installer make the partitions... by default it makes one extended partition to contain / and swap
[08:01] <polpak> AMD_, what are you trying to play with totem?
[08:01] <crimsun> immothep: have you installed build-essential?
[08:01] <immothep> is there a possibility to reinstall the gcc?
[08:01] <nalioth> immothep: install "build-essential
[08:01] <cvt|ubuntu> should i be concerned with spyware or trojans on ubuntu?
[08:01] <AMD_> polpak: was just trying to open an mp3, and totem pops up and gives me the error.
[08:01] <immothep> nalioth i take short a look
[08:01] <psusi> cvt|ubuntu: no
[08:01] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: not really, no.
[08:01] <Razor-X> has anyone encountered this error when using mpd (I just compiled mine for shoutcast support) cat: /etc/mpd.conf: No such file or directory
[08:01] <cvt|ubuntu> kthx.
[08:02] <N6pfk> I just want to stop LVM from starting not reinstall the system
[08:02] <polpak> ubotu tell AMD_ restricted
[08:02] <Belboz99> anyone?  I'm feeling invisible here
[08:02] <psusi> N6pfk: why?  it doesn't hurt anything
[08:02] <lespinoz> i need to find amsn 0.95
[08:02] <polpak> !restricted
[08:02] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:02] <poningru> polpak: you have to add an about in the middle
[08:02] <Belboz99> thanks Dr_Willis
[08:02] <immothep> nalioth - not until now - i try to install it - thanks
[08:02] <poningru> '!tell AMD_ about restricted
[08:02] <polpak> AMD_, if you follow the restricted format wiki you can play MP3 files with totem
[08:02] <trappist> how can I tell from the command line that I'm on breezy vs. dapper vs. hoary, say, for a script
[08:03] <AMD_> polpak: thanks :)
[08:03] <Linux_whore> psusi: you can read this if you want: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=611633&posted=1#post611633 I had problems dual booting xp when I used the guided partition tool to use "largest amount of continuous free space"
[08:03] <crimsun> trappist: lsb_release -r
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> Belboz99,  you are trying to mount a Samba share on a linux box?
[08:03] <N6pfk> It is annoying to have to power off manually when halting.
[08:03] <Belboz99> yeah, that's right Dr_Willis
[08:03] <lespinoz> ergrwg
[08:03] <trappist> crimsun: hrm... so how can I tell I'm on ubuntu?
[08:03] <trappist> crimsun: nm, -a :)
[08:03] <puff> Hm
[08:04] <Anth0ny_> Should I install SMP-kernel in order to utilize Hyper-threading?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Belboz99,  the file system is 'smbfs' i Think... the online book 'using samba' (free)  has details.
[08:04] <polpak> Belboz99, you've installed smbfs (sudo apt-get install smbfs) ?
[08:04] <Stormx2> hey again
[08:04] <crimsun> Anth0ny_: yes
[08:04] <nalioth> Anth0ny_: yes
[08:04] <Belboz99> hmm, I'll try that polak
[08:04] <psusi> Anth0ny_: if you want to use HT, yes, you need the smp kernel...
[08:04] <N6pfk> OK forget the LVM problem.  My computer freezes when ever I do anything involving vidoe 4 linux?
[08:04] <Anth0ny_> thanks
[08:05] <Belboz99> polak, LOL, thanks!  I never had that problem on Debian Sarge or Itch :P
[08:05] <Linfan> i customized my ubuntu i changed the splash screen how can i get rid of the brown at startup not the login screen i changed that already but when the splash screen comes on the ubuntu brown background is displayed when the new splash comes up how can i get rid of it?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> Etch maybe?
[08:05] <polpak> Belboz99, must have had it installed by default then =p
[08:06] <fat32> but intel chips are crap anyway
[08:06] <psusi> Linux_whore: I have installed breezy on computers that already have windows using the whole hard drive with no problems
[08:06] <N6pfk> I am trying to get a webcam working and video 4 linux hang my system
[08:06] <psusi> Linux_whore: the installer prompts to shrink the windows partition and use the rest for ubuntu and it dual boots fine
[08:06] <Belboz99> polak, yeah.  It seems there's a lot of things Ubuntu doesn't do by default, but anyway SUCESS! I got it to mount in the fstab, so no more worries :)
[08:07] <polpak> Belboz99, congratz =p
[08:07] <Linux_whore> psusi: i never had to resize windows because i left space for linux. what do you think could be causing the problem? after installing linux, xp comes up with the messages that hal.dll is corrupted.
[08:07] <Belboz99> polak, btw the problem was that the AmaroK player wouldn't recognize the "link" that I made, nor would it explore the network ;)
[08:08] <cvt|ubuntu> what does it mean to "uncomment?"
[08:08] <psusi> Linux_whore: try NOT leaving free space... let windows use the whole drive, then let ubuntu shrink it
[08:08] <danny> hey im new to linux and just wondered if anyone can give me advise on changing the theme, i downloaded one but it says wrong format wen i try and install it (also any good sites for themes would be help ful)
[08:08] <Belboz99> cvt|ubuntu take out the #'s
[08:08] <cvt|ubuntu> k
[08:09] <afief> Is there any good open source webpage builder like Dreamwaver?
[08:09] <InverseCow> afief, Have you had a look at NVU?
[08:09] <polpak> danny,  try sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[08:09] <nalioth> afief: there are not many to compare to dreamweaver
[08:09] <Belboz99> cvt|ubuntu, btw there should only be a few lines that need to be uncommented, if you uncomment lines that are supposed to be commented youl
[08:10] <Belboz99> 'll get errrors
[08:10] <afief> nalioth: dont need anything to compare to the big ones, all i want is not having to write HTML
[08:10] <Belboz99> I hate the way the ' is right next to enter :(
[08:10] <afief> i will try nvu:)
[08:10] <nalioth> afief: then nvu or quanta should do just fine
[08:10] <nalioth> afief: also screem
[08:10] <crimsun> Belboz99: it's on the opposite side of the keyboard if you use, say, dvorak
[08:11] <Belboz99> cool crimsum :)
[08:11] <AMD_> Does ubuntu detect a windows installation on another drive during install?  Or do i just need to modify grub manually?
[08:11] <N6pfk> Does anyone have problems with video 4 linux hanging their computer?
[08:12] <polpak> AMD_, I believe it will configure grub correctly
[08:12] <polpak> AMD_, so you can dual boot
[08:12] <AMD_> polpak: ok.  no biggie if it doesn't.  Just wanted to prepare :)
[08:13] <Darthbudge> ohh one other thing when it shows me all the other OSes I have on the computer it has Windows Xp twice is that normal?
[08:13] <cvt|ubuntu> when i try to install java it says "couldn't find sun-j2re1.5" but i have it on my desktop. ideas?
[08:13] <Linux_whore> psusi: is your windows install fat32 or ntfs?
[08:13] <AMD_> hmmmm....evolution won't start :(
[08:13] <psusi> Linux_whore: ntfs
[08:14] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, did you cd to ~/Desktop before running dpkg -i sun-jre*
[08:14] <Darthbudge> and should I install Grub bootloader on my main Hard drive with windows or on the hard drive with Linux?
[08:14] <polpak> AMD_, really?? that's odd.
[08:14] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, no. how do i do that?
[08:14] <ian_> hi, do i need to install the ati drivers for my card? im new to linux and chose ubuntu as my distro
[08:14] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, open a terminal and type cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <AMD_> polpak: yea.  seems there were a couple process already running.  killed em off and then it started.
[08:15] <cvt|ubuntu> k
[08:15] <AMD_> polpak: must not of shut off correctly that last time i exited
[08:15] <polpak> ian_, you don't need to, but it's recommended if you want to get the full 3d hardware accelleration
[08:15] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, it said the same.
[08:15] <polpak> ian_, read the getting started guide for instructions on installing the ATI drivers
[08:16] <Darthbudge> Please help?
[08:16] <polpak> ian_, you don't have to get it from the ATI website (and I'd recommend that you don't)
[08:16] <oly_> eeep, help having probs with wireless there is no intrface to configure
[08:16] <oxez> is it a good idea to build my entire gentoo system in chroot (in ubuntu)?
[08:16] <polpak> Darthbudge, it doesn't really matter much so long as grub is going to get loaded before the windows boot loader in order of operation
[08:16] <oly_> i have installed the drivers i used using ndiswrapper and modprobed the driver but no wlan0 shows up
[08:16] <crimsun> oxez: it's your system, do whatever you want.
[08:17] <oxez> crimsun: I posted in thr wrong channel, damn sorry
[08:17] <ian_> is there a ready driver from ubuntus site?
[08:17] <oly_> the only ifference is i ws using the 32 bit version before and now i am using 64 bit version of ubuntu
[08:17] <Darthbudge> how do I get it to go before Windows bootloader
[08:17] <oly_> anyone give me some ideas that i can try ??
[08:17] <gnomefreak> what command is it that tells me version of a program that wont open?
[08:17] <polpak> !ati
[08:17] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:17] <cvt|ubuntu> i'm having some trouble installing java. can someone help me get?
[08:18] <polpak> ubotu tell ian_ about ati
[08:18] <N6pfk> oly--32bit drivers don't work with a 64 bit kernel
[08:18] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, what's the trouble?
[08:18] <oly_> oh do i need to get 64 bit version of the windows drivers then ?
[08:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about javadebs
[08:18] <jhenn> is cairo in dapper?
[08:18] <trappist> crimsun: do you happen to know if the lsb-release package is part of the standard install?
[08:18] <oly_> or does ndis  not work with 64 bit ??
[08:18] <crimsun> trappist: it's a core package
[08:18] <QMario> How do I fax in Ubuntu?
[08:18] <trappist> cool
[08:18] <crimsun> jhenn: yes
[08:18] <N6pfk> oly--if you can find one, LOL
[08:19] <QMario> !Fax
[08:19] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:19] <QMario> !No
[08:19] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[08:19] <QMario> !Botsnack
[08:19] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[08:19] <oly_> okay thxs did not realise that :p
[08:19] <cvt|ubuntu> i got the self extracting file from java.com and followed the instructions from ubuntu but it wont install, polpak
[08:19] <ian_> ok thanks
[08:19] <crimsun> jhenn: it's in Breezy as well
[08:19] <Darthbudge> how do I get Grub bootloader to go before Windows bootloader?
[08:19] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: read the info from ubotu. problem solved
[08:19] <cvt|ubuntu> ok
[08:19] <gnomefreak> jhenn,  yes it is
[08:19] <danny> polpak, wen i put (apt-get install gnome-art) it came up with Reading package lists... Done
[08:19] <danny> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:19] <danny> E: Couldn't find package gnome-art
[08:20] <nalioth> danny: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[08:20] <fat32> Darthbudge: you must install grub into the mbr
[08:20] <ian_> polpak....will installing the drivers generate performance boost? ieman im real new to linux so i know nothing in particular
[08:20] <danny> polpak, wen i put (apt-get install gnome-art) it came up with Reading package lists... Done
[08:20] <danny> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:20] <danny> E: Couldn't find package gnome-art
[08:20] <Darthbudge> What is MBR?
[08:20] <polpak> ian_, it will give a boost for those programs which need 3d accelleration
[08:20] <nalioth> danny: please read the /topic (and dont paste in here)
[08:21] <gnomefreak> danny,  use synaptic
[08:21] <Darthbudge> If that is master boot record  it did ir at least it said it did
[08:21] <fat32> master boot record
[08:21] <polpak> danny, you need to enable the universe repo
[08:21] <ian_> i see....and by the way how do i know which ubuntu i have....because instrrucxtions are different for each
[08:21] <eddye> bur[n] er:
[08:21] <eddye> you here?
[08:21] <N6pfk> oly--I have a compaq v2000 with an amd64 turion processor and my ndiswrapper on the winxp driver failed with no errors using a 64 bit kernel but I have an AT&t pcmcia card that works for wifi out of the install.
[08:21] <gnomefreak> ian_,  lsb_release -a
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> root@aaa:~/Desktop # sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> ubotu, that's what it says now.
[08:22] <ubotu> cvt|ubuntu: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:22] <eddye> Problem: Initializing random number generator ...... [ fail ] 
[08:22] <gnomefreak> cvt|ubuntu, please dont paste in here use pastebin
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> ok
[08:22] <cvt|ubuntu> ubotu, i don't know
[08:22] <ubotu> cvt|ubuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:22] <gnomefreak> cvt|ubuntu, also close an instence of apt you have more than one open
[08:22] <ian_> i see thanks... and oh...since im real new do you know where i read on what commands does in the terminal? all i know is simple moving and deletign and creating directories
[08:22] <KenMasters> "warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code" what happend?
[08:22] <nalioth> there is a /topic to read
[08:22] <Aven> can someone give me the link for the reposotories list?
[08:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell danny about repos
[08:23] <eddye> anyone got any tip for me?
[08:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about repos
[08:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ian_  about commands
[08:23] <N6pfk> Problem with video 4 linux hanging my computer?
[08:23] <eddye> gnomefreak: cam you help me
[08:23] <gnomefreak> iam the pm that ubotu sent you has command useage
[08:23] <ian_> thnx.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> eddye, help you what?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> yw iam
[08:23] <gnomefreak> ian_,
[08:23] <eddye> see up
[08:24] <hd420> I fixed my apache2 problem from yesterday
[08:24] <eddye> my first message
[08:24] <ian_> yes?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> all i saw was intionlizing random number
[08:24] <eddye> yes
[08:24] <eddye> how do i fix that
[08:24] <gnomefreak> no ian_  i was fixing my typo sorry
[08:24] <polpak> ian_,  here's a brief overview http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[08:24] <Linfan> ubuntu only supports 16 and 24 bit colors? what happened to 32
[08:24] <eddye> i cant get into gnome
[08:24] <eddye> ?
[08:25] <polpak> ian_, and you can use 'man' to get the manual for pretty much any command
[08:25] <Linfan> is there a keyboard shortcut by default to brung up terminal?
[08:25] <ian_> will installing the ati driver enahnce my scrolling....i eman will it be smoother... its kinda not good when i dragwindows
[08:25] <gnomefreak> eddye, ummmmm ok you cant get into gnome? doesnt really say much can you give more details?
[08:25] <eddye> i tryed to normalize xorg.conf but it isnt working
[08:25] <AMD_> are there any disadvantages to enabling the root account?  Other than the obvious security implications.  Do certain features of ubuntu not work, or not work right with the root account enabled?
[08:26] <eddye> it doestn say anything
[08:26] <nalioth> AMD_: you'll break your functionality
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell AMD_ about root
[08:26] <eddye> thats the problem
[08:26] <nalioth> AMD_: read that page
[08:26] <gnomefreak> eddye, what are you using right now?
[08:26] <AMD_> nalioth: ok, thanks
[08:26] <Darthbudge> It said that I installed the Grub bootloader in the MBR but I still can't boot in too linux
[08:26] <cmatheson> hey does anyone know if there's a clearlooks variant that is less.. um... brown?
[08:26] <eddye> Ubuntu breezy 5.10
[08:26] <polpak> cmatheson, yes. plenty
[08:26] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, i got the package from ubotu and followed the instructions but it still says "couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" and i cd to desktop. ideas?
[08:26] <Darthbudge> It doesn't even give me the choice it just goes in too windows
[08:26] <gnomefreak> no eddye  i mean are you at command line, a differetn desktop ?
[08:26] <ian_> jsut wondering does anyone here fold?
[08:27] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: you need to cd whereve your downloads go
[08:27] <cmatheson> polpak: in the repos or are you going to art.gnome.org?
[08:27] <Printer> Good Day all.
[08:27] <polpak> cmatheson, if you want all the themes you can handle you can install the gnome-art package
[08:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about cli
[08:27] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, it goes to desktop
[08:27] <eddye> command line i thing (Crtl+Alt+F1)
[08:27] <cmatheson> polpak: yeah, and i'm not really interested in lots of themes, just a clearlooks theme that is whitish instead of tannish
[08:27] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: is it fully downloaded?
[08:27] <cvt|ubuntu> yes
[08:27] <cmatheson> polpak: i'll check that package out though, thanks
[08:27] <AMD_> nalioth: i guess I'm used to a 'root' account on linux/bsd boxen.  I would imagine if i created another account and gave it root access that would not break ubuntu.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> eddye, ctrl+alt+F7 doesnt bring you back to gnome?
[08:27] <cvt|ubuntu> i cd to desktop and type: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[08:27] <eddye> gnomefreak: no :(
[08:28] <Kyral> Any Networking Gods here?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> eddye,  try startx
[08:28] <Printer> In Dapper/Firefox 1.5 I have no text in the "Downloads" window for the files I am downloading.  Any fix for this?
[08:28] <eddye> wait
[08:28] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, I think you need dpkg -i
[08:28] <nalioth> AMD_: there is no need for a root account here, sudo (and it's graphical cousins gksudo and kdesu) will do anything you need to do
[08:28] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, but you may be doing something other than what I'm thinking of
[08:28] <cmatheson> AMD_: not sure what you mean... if you want another user w/ ultimate sudo power just add him to the 'admin' group... otherwise you can create a root account, but don't use the 'adduser' command, just do 'sudo passwd'
[08:28] <Kyral> I have a ...unique... problem
[08:28] <puff> Hm, cat proc/acpi/thermalzone/THM0/pollingfrequency --> <polling disableD>
[08:29] <eddye> it says something about x11-unix has suspecious mode
[08:29] <Kyral> Anyone know how to route an internet connection through an SSH tunnel
[08:29] <AMD_> nalioth: i know sudo will work.  But if i need root access for multiple commands i don't want to have to type sudo each time ;)
[08:29] <puff> does this mean that /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THM0/temperature is out of date?
[08:29] <AMD_> cmatheson: thanks for the info
[08:29] <puff> Kyral: Sure.
[08:29] <polpak> AMD_, sudo -s
[08:29] <eddye> xinit: giving up
[08:29] <nalioth> AMD_: use sudo -i
[08:29] <puff> Kyral: What are you trying to do?
[08:29] <Kyral> puff: PM?
[08:29] <AMD_> -i, or -s  ? ;)
[08:29] <gnomefreak> eddye, have you tried rebooting yet?
[08:29] <puff> kyncani: I guess.
[08:29] <eddye> yes
[08:29] <polpak> AMD_, probably either ;p
[08:29] <puff> Kyral: I guss.
[08:29] <eddye> 4 times i gues
[08:29] <AMD_> polpak: ;)
[08:29] <puff> guess, dammit :-).
[08:29] <Kyral> I'd rather not clutter the channel with this one
[08:29] <QMario> So, how do I use eFax-gtk?
[08:30] <Linfan> IM doing a terminal command to fix my resolution rate-i type in the commandbut when it promps me for the password it wont let me type how can i fix this or what i am doing wrong
[08:30] <Linuturk> well, I just got a new puter
[08:30] <psusi> sudo -s gives you a root shell with your environment... -i uses root's environment
[08:30] <QMario> For some reason, Linux can't even detect my modem.
[08:30] <AMD_> polpak: oh, cool.  Didn't know that would throw me into a root shell environment :))
[08:30] <gnomefreak> eddye,  what did you do meaning what was the original plan?
[08:30] <Linuturk> guess what? this wireless card isn't supported out of the box either. It's a Broadcom
[08:30] <polpak> AMD_, yeah. I guess -i would be a better option
[08:30] <gnomefreak> isnt sudo -i perfered?
[08:30] <Linuturk> (Ethernet) #1 (Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN - Packet Scheduler Miniport (36Mb/s) 0.86MB In, 0.18MB Out) #2(Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport (10Mb/s) 0.00MB In, 0.00MB Out)
[08:31] <noirequus> gnomefreak: yes, sudo -i is preferred
[08:31] <psusi> I allways use -s... that way ~ is YOUR home not root's ;)
[08:31] <eddye> gnomefreak: i installed cedega 5.0 then i reboted because it freezed my cpu and when i tryed to go on it didnt go on
[08:31] <Printer> Hmmm.  If I select "Ask me where to save" in the preferences I do get text.  If I leave it at "Save to Desktop" I don't get text.
[08:31] <eddye> then i used to rename the xorg.conf and it didnt work either
[08:32] <Kindred> um.
[08:32] <gnomefreak> eddye,  im sorry i dont know anything about that program but sounds like something happened whyn you tried to rename it :(
[08:32] <kalin> hi
[08:32] <eddye> gnomefreak: the problem is in the xorg.conf i think
[08:33] <eddye> but i cant repair it
[08:33] <kalin> i need a control ACTIVE X to mozilla
[08:33] <eddye> :(
[08:33] <kalin> could anybody tell me how to install it?
[08:33] <cmatheson> kalin: you're only option for activex is wine or something like that
[08:33] <AMD_> hmmm....ubuntu doesn't like my arrow keys ;(  Keeps logging this in syslog: Dec 29 14:33:17 localhost kernel: [4355186.365000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> kalin: Why do you need it anyway?
[08:33] <Linuturk> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?dlc=en&lc=en&product=434599&lang=en&cc=us&
[08:33] <kalin> i already have got wine
[08:34] <eddye> gnomefreak: ill try something else :)
[08:34] <gnomefreak> eddye,  ok try this sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it back to orignal settings
[08:34] <Linuturk> Anyone have experience setting up that computer ^^
[08:34] <eddye> gnomefreak:
[08:34] <eddye> ill try :)
[08:34] <Linuturk> My wireless Woe's contineu
[08:34] <Linuturk> continue*
[08:34] <kalin> i need active x to mozilla to install gunbound
[08:34] <QMario> Is cmug, a spam bot?
[08:34] <cmug> no
[08:34] <gnomefreak> i think so
[08:34] <gnomefreak> oh
[08:34] <cmug> made a 'booboo' in my .screenrc
[08:35] <kalin> and winamp i think
[08:35] <cmug> which opened infinite number of irssi's
[08:35] <cmug> my bad
[08:35] <noirequus> cmug: why all the joins?
[08:35] <Linfan> is there anyway to  make the splash screen fit the width of the screen
[08:36] <jjs> so im having a little trouble with apache on my ubuntu install. i installed apache2 with apt-get, then something went wrong and it stopped working so i removed it and installed it again and it still won't work, any ideas?
[08:36] <kalin> help me please i need active x to mozilla
[08:36] <cvt|ubuntu> how do i know if i have breezy?
[08:36] <eddye> gnomefreak: it isnt going on... like it freezed :)
[08:36] <noirequus> cvt|ubuntu: in a console, type 'cat /etc/issue'
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> noirequus, What do the /n /l in that mean?
[08:37] <cvt|ubuntu> it says hoary hedgehog.  so does that mean the instructions don't apply, noirequus?
[08:37] <noirequus> tonyyarusso: the n and l in what?
[08:37] <noirequus> cvt|ubuntu: i dont know what you want to do
[08:37] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, it means you probably need different instructions
[08:38] <cvt|ubuntu> noirequus, install java
[08:38] <polpak> noirequus, he's trying to install java
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> noirequus, The output from cat /etc/issue.
[08:38] <cvt|ubuntu> k
[08:38] <ucornel> ba esti roman
[08:38] <eddye> lol :)
[08:38] <gnomefreak> eddye, it sounds like something happened when you tried to rename it and not knowing anything about that program i am gonna be no help sorry :(
[08:38] <eddye>  HEHE
[08:38] <kalin> tell me please i need active X to install WINAMP
[08:38] <noirequus> cvt|ubuntu: you'll need to upgrade or follow the instructions on the wiki
[08:38] <eddye> gnomefreak: i am giving up :)
[08:38] <polpak> kalin, why do you need winamp?
[08:39] <noirequus> kalin: why do you need winamp? xmms is a perfect clone
[08:39] <eddye> gnomefreak:  thanks anyway
[08:39] <kalin> =/
[08:39] <eddye> ;)
[08:39] <polpak> kalin, you can use xmms or totem
[08:39] <eddye> bye
[08:39] <gnomefreak> yw eddye  sorry
[08:39] <polpak> kalin, or rhythmbox
[08:39] <kalin> yes i know
[08:39] <gnomefreak> winamp is a windows app
[08:39] <ucornel> ba nu este nici un roman pe canalul asta
[08:39] <gnomefreak> !es
[08:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:39] <kalin> but  some other programs ask me active x for mozilla
[08:39] <ian_> which audio player can stream form the net?
[08:39] <Aven> mplayer
[08:39] <Aven> I believe
[08:40] <polpak> ian_, you mean like shoutcast channels etc?
[08:40] <ian_> is that part of ubuntu or do i need to download that from other sites?
[08:40] <kalin> i cant play mp3 on bythymbox
[08:40] <ian_> polpak yes
[08:40] <noirequus> ian_: rhythmbox, xmms, lots of them
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> ian_, Depends on what you want.  I use VLC for an online radio station.
[08:40] <polpak> ubotu tell kalin about restricted
[08:41] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, do you know anything else i can do to get java?
[08:41] <addison> could someone give me some assistance, i've been trying to setup a wireless network adapter (linksys) and it isn't working
[08:41] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, yeah, one sec
[08:42] <David1> hi
[08:42] <moodog> evening all
[08:42] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, this is specifically for Hoary... http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[08:42] <ucornel> ba mai vb si romaneste
[08:42] <ian_> whats vlc?
[08:42] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, but It's probably just a good idea to upgrade to breezy anyway
[08:42] <D1-> does anyone know how to prevent ubuntu (gnome) and kubuntu (kde) to share the menu system?
[08:42] <david1> hi
[08:42] <david1> does anyone know how to use alien?
[08:43] <david1> i want to install limewire, but it doesn't recognize the alien command
[08:43] <ian_> where can i find the radio stations? i eman are there no automatic tunign in rythm box
[08:43] <D1-> alien filename.deb
[08:43] <ucornel> sa va fut in cur pe toti de pe acest canal
[08:43] <polpak> david1, apt-get install alien
[08:43] <Aven> !es damnit
[08:43] <ubotu> Aven: I haven't a clue
[08:43] <polpak> david1, or sudo apt-get install alien rather
[08:43] <Aven> !es
[08:43] <noirequus> !it
[08:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:43] <ilba7r> david ther is a source file for limewire .bin
[08:43] <david1> polpak,  when i do that, ti requires the ubuntu cd
[08:44] <david1> but i dont' have it with me
[08:44] <kalin> plopak i think wiki.ubuntu is not a secure page
[08:44] <noirequus> david1: edit your cdrom line in your sources.list
[08:44] <polpak> david1, you need to update your sources.list
[08:44] <polpak> kalin, yes it is
[08:44] <polpak> kalin, it's just self signed
[08:44] <david1> noirequus, polpak k
[08:44] <polpak> kalin, just click to accept the certificate
[08:45] <Linfan> im a noob so can somebody please tell me how to install a .deb package? i downloaded to my desktop
[08:45] <polpak> Linfan, dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:45] <noirequus> ubotu: tell Linfan about deb
[08:45] <david1> i just tried to install using synaptec, which also needs the cd
[08:45] <polpak> david1, you need to edit your sources.list
[08:45] <david1> noirequus, polpak , how do i do that?
[08:46] <polpak> david1, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <ucornel> ba alex esti roman
[08:46] <Linfan> ok i did what you guys told me
[08:46] <Linfan> it ask for a password
[08:46] <pinkisntwell> to use xfce should I install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop?
[08:46] <Linfan> but when u try to type it in
[08:46] <ucornel> sa va rfut in gura pe toti
[08:46] <david1> polpak, what do i modify in sources.list
[08:46] <Linfan> nothing is happening it wont let me type in the password
[08:47] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <ucornel> fack you
[08:47] <pinkisntwell> why?
[08:47] <polpak> Linfan, the password is hidden so it cannot be read over your shoulder. Just type it in and hit enter
[08:47] <gnomefreak> its a meta-package
[08:47] <gnomefreak> it comes with apps you might want/need instead of installing them seprately
[08:47] <polpak> david1, you need to comment out the line for the CD repository and uncomment the lines for the us.archive.ubuntu.com repos
[08:48] <david1> polpak, k
[08:48] <AMD_> where does the 'configuration editor' store it's data?  Is it in text files, or is it in a db of some type ?
[08:48] <polpak> AMD_, which configuration editor?
[08:48] <AMD_> polpak: the one in Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[08:48] <gnomefreak> why cant they have anjuta.deb on thier site :(
[08:48] <david1> polpak,  ty very much, i put ## by the CD rom line, the top one and now it's downloading alien in synaptec
[08:49] <Linfan> im installing alltray and i downloaded to my desktop it says cannot access archive:no such file or directory but isee it on my desktop
[08:49] <polpak> david1, np =)
[08:49] <polpak> Linfan, you'll need to cd to your Desktop
[08:49] <AMD_> polpak: or is it just parsing the configuration files in /etc and my home direc ?
[08:49] <Linfan> sudo apt-get install alltray can i just do that to get it?
[08:50] <polpak> AMD_, it uses configuration files from your home directory
[08:50] <polpak> AMD_, I cannot recall which ones though
[08:50] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, i followed those instructions but it didn't work yet. should i get breezy?
[08:50] <AMD_> polpak: ok, thanks :)
[08:50] <Linfan> ok how do i do that?
[08:50] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, I'd suggest doing that. It'll probably be easier in the long run
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Linfan,  cd Desktop
[08:50] <Linfan> i come from windows where we dont do this terminal stuff sorry for my ignorance
[08:50] <D1-> does anyone know if theres a way for kubuntu not to adopt gnome's menu system and vice versa?
[08:51] <kemik> Linfan:  use synaptic and search for alltray
[08:51] <eddye> gnomefreak: how do i change from ati graphic to Default ???
[08:51] <Linfan> o.k so let me get this straight everything i want will be in snaptic?
[08:51] <Linfan> so i hardly have to use terminal then
[08:51] <cvt|ubuntu> polpak, do u know how to get breezy?
[08:51] <polpak> Linfan, pretty much
[08:52] <pashaw> Linfan,    when thigs go wrong youll need to know how to use terminal
[08:52] <polpak> cvt|ubuntu, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I think will work
[08:52] <gnomefreak> eddye, im not sure do you have an ati card? if so it should be set on ati
[08:52] <Linfan> is there any guides that will give a detailed explaination on how to properly use terminal?
[08:52] <eddye> gnomefreak: when it was on default i hadnt so much trubble :)
[08:52] <polpak> Linfan, check this one out as a starter http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[08:53] <Linfan> i really want to learn how to use it-my built digital card reader is not working so maybe i can fix it through there
[08:53] <kemik> Linfan:  if the package isnt in the repositories, then you'll need to use other options (such downloading the .deb file an install it with "dkpg" )
[08:53] <gnomefreak> eddye,  did you change it to fglx and thats when the trouble started?
[08:54] <kemik> Linfan:  using the cLI will teach you how to use the cli ;)
[08:54] <yuacht> is there a app in ubuntu that will let me choose mountpoints etc for my other harddrives then add it to fstab=
[08:54] <yuacht> ?
[08:54] <victor_mrr> hello, can someone recommend a good HTML authoring system for ubuntu?
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> victor_mrr, nvu.
[08:55] <Linfan> ok i just searched synaptic its not there-i do have the deb on my desktop i foolowed the instruction you guys told me but it gave me error i posted earlier
[08:55] <eddye> gnomefreak: my friend told me how to fix to default (only the fglx change to ati)
[08:55] <eddye> ill try that now
[08:55] <eddye> br
[08:55] <eddye> brb
[08:55] <david1> does anyone here know how to run limewire?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> eddye,  yes thats why i asked
[08:55] <Linfan> how do i make terminal look in the desktop for it
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Linfan,  cd Desktop
[08:56] <Zahrber> is anyone here good with Wine
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> eddye, I would also like to know what your friend told you, for future possible reference.
[08:56] <polpak> Zahrber, no meta questions pls ;p
[08:56] <polpak> Zahrber, what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <Zahrber> I am trying to use Wine with a few simple apps to learn to use it
[08:57] <laurent_> join #ubuntu.fr
[08:57] <kemik> Linfan:  CD = change directory, .. so cd ~/Desktop OR cd /home/YOURUSER/Desktop
[08:57] <Zahrber> I did as the tut said and am running into problems
[08:57] <eddye> tonyyarusso: He installed my driver ati and he only said that he changed something (IRCnet #cmd here you can contact him his nick is BiZToRo)
[08:57] <polpak> Zahrber, have you installed the wine package from winehq ?
[08:57] <Zahrber> i used the one from ubuntu repository
[08:57] <Zahrber> i also installed winetools
[08:58] <polpak> Zahrber, that one is pretty old
[08:58] <Zahrber> it is 0.9.3
[08:58] <Linfan> ok i did what you told me i typed in sudo dpkg -i alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb at the beggining it is displayed like this-frank@ubuntu:~/desktop is this correct
[08:58] <polpak> Zahrber, hrm. I thought the repos were still using CVS from a few months ago
[08:58] <polpak> nvm
[08:58] <polpak> Zahrber, so you installed the base wine software?
[08:59] <eddye> Now i have to go ( tonyyarusso: he said that he changed the Driver from "ATI" to "fglrx"
[08:59] <eddye> bye
[08:59] <Zahrber> one thing is I did as tut said and Dled the windows dll's kernel32 user32 gdi32 ntdll and moved them to the windows/system32 and now I get error on everything
[08:59] <gnomefreak> Linfan, if that is where the .deb is yes its right
[08:59] <david1> Does anyone know how to run limewire on Linux?
[08:59] <Zahrber> synaptic installed 0.9.3 from repo
[09:00] <Linfan> frank@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb
[09:00] <Linfan> dpkg: error processing alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb (--install):
[09:00] <Linfan>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:00] <Linfan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:00] <Linfan>  alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb
[09:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell david1 about limewire
[09:00] <polpak> Zahrber, I suggest you remove your .wine directory and use the winetool to set up your base wine system
[09:00] <Linfan> thats what i get when i try what you told me
[09:00] <Linfan> ooh wait did i forget to type in install
[09:00] <Linfan> ?
[09:00] <Zahrber> ok but I can't find my .wine dir
[09:00] <polpak> Linfan, that's what the -i is for
[09:00] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:01] <polpak> Zahrber, it's in your home directory
[09:01] <gnomefreak> but use sudo :(
[09:01] <polpak> Zahrber, rm -rf ~/.wine
[09:01] <D1-> david1: go to ubuntuguide.org and there are instructions there for installing limewire.
[09:01] <Zahrber> cant figure out where it was installed it isn't in home dir
[09:01] <polpak> Zahrber, yes it is
[09:01] <polpak> Zahrber, directories which start with . are "hidden"
[09:01] <Zahrber> no it isn't trus tme on this one unless it is invisible
[09:01] <Zahrber> yes i view hidden files and still not there
[09:02] <elia> how I can see directories which start with .
[09:02] <polpak> elia, from nautellus or from terminal?
[09:02] <elia> from terminal
[09:02] <polpak> elia, ls -a
[09:02] <Zahrber> believe me if it was simple I wouldn't be asking for help and all I have read for the last 24 hours does no help
[09:02] <pashaw> Zahrber, Zahrber    type  cd ~ <enter>      then  ls -al
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Linfan,  sudo dpkg -i alltray <tab>
[09:03] <elia> thanks polpak ..... gracias
[09:03] <gnomefreak> tab should complete the file name
[09:03] <Zahrber> yes when i go to cd ~/.wine i get to dir
[09:03] <bur[n] er> any of you nokia 770 owners here by chance?
[09:03] <kalin> is it possible to play .wma files in rythymbox or totem?
[09:03] <Linfan> im doing that but a help is being displayed about how to by typing dpkg
[09:03] <binskipy2u> first time here
[09:03] <binskipy2u> can anyone see me?
[09:03] <Zahrber> but can't change to ~/.wine/drive_c/ Program Files because there is a space in Program Files and bash doesn't like it
[09:03] <elia> yes
[09:04] <binskipy2u> anyone here familar with distrowatch.com?
[09:04] <BLuE_0nYX> is there anyone who could paste me his /etc/group because mine is crashed=
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> kalin, Yes.
[09:04] <JeremyPrivett> Zahrber: You have to escape spaces with a backslash.
[09:04] <pashaw> Zahrber,   use a \   for the space
[09:04] <bur[n] er> kalin: yes
[09:04] <Zahrber> ok let me try that one sec
[09:04] <JeremyPrivett> cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[09:04] <bur[n] er> ubotu: tell kalin about w32codecs
[09:04] <trappist> BLuE_0nYX: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/group
[09:04] <binskipy2u> can someone tell me if ubuntu updates to finals of most software?
[09:04] <kalin> how?? tell me please?
[09:04] <kernic> somebody knows how to modify screen resolution? i have 1280x800 and I'm using 1024x768.
[09:05] <trappist> kernic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:05] <BLuE_0nYX> thx trappist
[09:05] <binskipy2u> ubntu 5.10 has firefox 1.07, and kde 3.4x wil it update to firefox 1.5 and kde 3.5? when you enable everything in the repots
[09:05] <binskipy2u> ?
[09:05] <bur[n] er> kernic: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[09:05] <ian_> kernic...system>preferences>screen resolution
[09:05] <Zambba> binskipy2u: When Dapper comes, comes also new software.
[09:05] <trappist> Zambba: well put
[09:06] <binskipy2u> so ubuntu wont update that much from whats on the cd itself?
[09:06] <Zambba> You can get KDE 3.5 from Kubuntu.org's unofficial repositories.
[09:06] <binskipy2u> oh
[09:06] <trappist> binskipy2u: not for this release.  we try to keep it stable.
[09:06] <jtibau> Hi I need to install the SUN JAVA SYSTEM APPLICATION SERVER in breezy but it tells me I don's have some libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 can anyone help me
[09:06] <kalin> ok thanks but is it secure the page of WIKI UBUNTU?
[09:06] <psusi> binskipy2u: that's what stable means... it's working so don't change it, except for critical bug/security fixes
[09:06] <Dr_Acemaster> if I can't browse to a windows box on the lan, what's the best way to find it?
[09:06] <Dr_Acemaster> browse = via nautilus
[09:06] <wenseslao> how can i get edubuntu
[09:06] <Kindred> kalin, sure
[09:07] <trappist> jtibau: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[09:07] <kemik> Dr_Acemaster:  by IP address if you know it
[09:07] <kalin> well i'm gonna see
[09:07] <robzon> wenseslao: download it.. there's a link on ubuntu.com
[09:08] <JeremyPrivett> I don't suppose any of you know of a working video driver for an ATI Radeon 340M (Mobile) in an hp pavillion ze5730us, would you?
[09:08] <Dr_Acemaster> is there a "find computer" option?
[09:08] <jtibau> I tried doing the apt-get with the sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 but it says it can't find the package
[09:08] <pashaw> wenseslao,   if you just want to add the desktop use synaptic   edubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <wenseslao> thanks
[09:09] <pashaw> JeremyPrivett,    "ati"  doesnt work?
[09:10] <JeremyPrivett> No, pashaw.
[09:10] <JeremyPrivett> It "works" but it renders (if you can call it that) in Mesa.
[09:10] <Zahrber> ok now i am cookin
[09:10] <pashaw> JeremyPrivett,   ouch  too new huh?   search the forums or google
[09:10] <elia> jtibau, change the repository
[09:10] <pinkisntwell> xorg takes 204 MB of virtual memory, is that normal?
[09:11] <Zahrber> i had to delete the user32.dll gdi32.dll ntdll.dll i was supose to place in wine folder as per tut
[09:11] <jtibau> which repository should I use???
[09:11] <JeremyPrivett> I've been trying the forums. I found a couple of topics where people have found working solutions, but they were in Warty or Hoary and the solutions just aren't working in Breezy.
[09:11] <elia> speak spanish? jtibau?
[09:11] <jtibau> yes
[09:11] <pashaw> pinkisntwell,   yes  linux doesnt like memory sitting around being wasted :)
[09:11] <zillake> how can i install a previous version of nvidia-driver? Is there a repository that has older versions?
[09:11] <jtibau> o si mejor dicho
[09:11] <Zahrber> I forgot about backspace for spaces it has been so long since I have used Linux
[09:11] <eddye> hey gnomefreak
[09:12] <gnomefreak> eddye, ?
[09:12] <eddye> how do i change my monitor
[09:12] <elia> buscate en la guia ubuntu, la parte donde dice agregar repositorios extra y sigue los pasos, me avisas si
[09:12] <Zahrber> i got Flashget 171 working with wine just by a default wine install
[09:12] <kernic> I try to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i don't see i915 only i810
[09:12] <markrian> I've googled to no avail: how do I (SAFELY) remove all dot (hidden) files and directories from a directory, that is, keeping . and .. intact?
[09:12] <pinkisntwell> what's a good newsreader for linux? I don't like pan that much
[09:12] <Kyral> gnus?
[09:12] <eddye> i thing it is a problem with the monitor as it isnt detecting it
[09:12] <gnomefreak> eddye, in the xserver-xorg file
[09:12] <zillake> pinkisntwell: what do you need it for ?
[09:12] <zillake> realy READING or leeching :)
[09:12] <pinkisntwell> reading, i don't have a bin server
[09:12] <eddye> gnomefreak: where is the xserver-xorg?
[09:13] <zillake> then i don't know ;)
[09:13] <psusi> markrian: rm .*
[09:13] <elia> jtibau, te lo hizo?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <jtibau> no se como cambiar el repositorio
[09:13] <eddye> but it isnt doing anything it just freezes
[09:14] <ilba7r> will update menu update fluxbox menus as well as kde and gnome?
[09:14] <elia> ya va
[09:14] <gnomefreak> eddye,  im not sure than /etc/x11?
[09:14] <kernic> I want to change the screen resolution
[09:14] <eddye> and then?
[09:14] <pinkisntwell> zillake: maybe I could ask for your bin server then? lol
[09:14] <gnomefreak> eddye, other than using the dpkg -reconfigure im not sure thats all i ever used
[09:15] <pashaw> eddye,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <eddye> pashaw: i tryed that :)
[09:15] <elia> jtibau, mete aqui= http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/breezy/repositorios#como_anadir_repositorios_extra
[09:15] <graft> eddye, what are you trying to do?
[09:15] <Zahrber> thanks for the help polpak pashaw JeremyPrivett
[09:15] <pashaw> eddye,    type  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <eddye> i am using Samsung SyncMaster 955DF
[09:15] <Gomez_> hello
[09:15] <Linfan> ok im trying to fix my resolution im on the screen where you select a driver do i select any from the list or do i have to search for a specific driver for my laptops lcd?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> eddye: Did your friend say where that change was made?
[09:16] <zillake> pinkisntwell: yes you _could_ ask, but i think i'ld say no :)
[09:16] <eddye> tonyyarusso: no :(
[09:16] <Gomez_> could someone help me out with a ubuntu server install on which I want to install a gnome but not all the apps ubuntu installs by defaut
[09:16] <pinkisntwell> zillake: lol ok
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> eddye, All right.
[09:16] <graft> Linfan, if you're running the latest X-org, it ought to autodetect most monitors
[09:16] <jtibau> pero igual que repositorio deberia usar??? configure el synaptics para que cogiera casi todos los repositorios que ogrece el ubuntu... pero igual no lo encuentra. Creo que esa libreria es un poco vieja?? no es posible que la hayan sacado?
[09:16] <graft> you don't have to tell it anything special
[09:16] <eddye> graft: i know but it isnt
[09:16] <Linfan> how do i update to the latest xorg?
[09:17] <zillake> anyway: anybody knows how to install a previous version of nvidia-driver ? (or how to fix 'noise' in the pictures)
[09:17] <eddye> it detects it as Default Monitor
[09:17] <Zahrber> I am trying to get my D-Link DWL-122 USB adapter to work and all the tuts I have tried have failed anyone know something to help
[09:17] <graft> apt-get install xserver-xorg
[09:17] <elia> jtibau, sigue los pasos tal y como te indica y veras, despues de eso vuelve a instalar lo q necesitas
[09:17] <eddye> i didn't have this problem ever
[09:17] <pashaw> jtibau,   language?
[09:17] <eddye> graft: i'll try that :)
[09:17] <graft> eddye, i'm not sure what your problem is... i missed it
[09:17] <danny> im trying to install a login page, ive got gnome art but unsure how to actually change the loginscreen
[09:17] <eddye> graft: it isn't detecting my Monitror right
[09:17] <Gomez_> yes but then I only have the x server
[09:18] <Gomez_> and I want the gnome window manager
[09:18] <Gomez_> without all the apps
[09:18] <graft> eddye: what does it say?
[09:18] <eddye> and it doesnt let me in gnome display manager
[09:18] <jtibau> ok, voy a intentar, ya regreso
[09:18] <pashaw> !es
[09:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:18] <eddye> graft: thats the problem that i dont have configured right the display or something like that
[09:18] <elia> date pues jtibau, me avisas,
[09:18] <Linfan> ok it says i have the latest version
[09:19] <graft> eddye: does your X server run okay?
[09:19] <eddye> at first i taught it was my driver but i was wrong :S
[09:19] <Linfan> i need to fix my refresh rate is set at 60
[09:19] <eddye> graft: no :(
[09:19] <elia> ubotu, no problem, try to help someone
[09:19] <ubotu> elia: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:19] <graft> what does your log file say?
[09:19] <Gomez_> ...
[09:19] <Zambba> Hey guys. Never buy a Maxtor!
[09:19] <eddye> graft: wait
[09:19] <pashaw> elia,    ubotu is a bot
[09:19] <Vander> okay, I am -completely- new to linux
[09:19] <Zambba> My Maxtor just lost (4th time ever) all its data
[09:20] <Vander> well, almost..
[09:20] <Gomez_> anyone knows how to install gnome on ubuntu without installing al the apps?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> Vander, So how are you liking it so far?
[09:20] <Vander> not bad
[09:20] <elia> pashaw, no problem
[09:20] <Kyral> only time I had problems with a Maxtor was when the USB HD fell offa the table :D
[09:20] <Vander> it's a little complicated though
[09:20] <Kyral> Vander: you have NO idea
[09:20] <eddye> graft: now it says "The X server is now disabled"
[09:20] <Kyral> :D
[09:20] <Linfan> i have an intel graphics card so i assume either i740 or i810 are intel drivers?
[09:20] <Kyral> I'm in a hack fest right now
[09:20] <psusi> Gomez_: yes... install each package ( that ubuntu-desktop depends on ) you want by hand, and not the ones you don't
[09:20] <Zambba> Gomez_: If you mean those additional programs with come with a full Ubuntu install, install Ubuntu minimal (server-option) and then apt-get install gnome
[09:20] <Vander> for starters, what is Smart Update?
[09:21] <danny> anyone no how i can change the login theme
[09:21] <Gomez_> zambba: it doesnt find the package gnome
[09:21] <graft> eddye, which log file are you looking at? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:21] <Gomez_> psusi: could you tell me which packages that are?
[09:21] <eddye> Crtl+Alt+F7 :)
[09:21] <Linfan> and ubuntu doesnt support 32 but?
[09:21] <Kyral> Vander: tries to resolve as many depends as it can
[09:21] <Kyral> Linfan: yes
[09:21] <Linfan> bit*
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> Gomez_, universe.
[09:21] <psusi> Gomez_: look at ubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[09:21] <keyhack> Does Ubuntu come with bootsplash already on it?
[09:21] <Gomez_> psusi cant reach synaptic since there's no window manager on my system yet
[09:22] <Gomez_> tonyyarusso, thanks
[09:22] <Vander> Oh, crapness. we don't get new windows for Messages, do we?
[09:22] <psusi> Gomez_: ahh... then you would need to mess around with apt-get and apt-cache to list the depends of the package
[09:22] <Gomez_> psusi ok thanks
[09:22] <Gomez_> thanks for the help, guys!
[09:22] <danny> t
[09:23] <Savage_Orc> hello
[09:23] <Vander> Okay, I just updated after my very first install of Ubuntu, and there are two files left to update (linux*somethinghere*386*) and it told me to use Symantic Smart Update or something like that. How do I use that program?
[09:23] <Savage_Orc> how do you tell all the hardware you have in ubuntu linux?
[09:23] <Savage_Orc> including agp ports
[09:23] <Savage_Orc> and pci express ports
[09:24] <Savage_Orc> :?
[09:24] <Kyral> Vander: drop to a commandline and issue sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:24] <graft> wtf is Symantec Smart Update doing in ubuntu?
[09:24] <elia> how can I know waht version do I have?
[09:24] <HP_Administrator> i'm working on setting up a dual boot system with xp pro and ubuntu 64
[09:24] <Vander> can I do that through the terminal?
[09:24] <eddye> and to say to all of you i am a newb :)
[09:24] <HP_Administrator> could someone tell me if there is yet a working WINE or Cedega for ubuntu 64?
[09:25] <pashaw> graft,    huh?    did you read it correctly
[09:25] <Kyral> Vander: yes
[09:25] <Kyral> Vander: Commandline == Terminal
[09:25] <eddye> brb
[09:25] <Vander> well thank you
[09:25] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to change vim themes?
[09:25] <graft> pashaw, don't ask me, t hat's what Vander said...
[09:25] <HP_Administrator> thank you
[09:26] <pashaw> graft,   lol   its synaptic
[09:26] <Vander> lol
[09:26] <graft> OH
[09:26] <graft> haha
[09:26] <Vander> I just misread it I guess
[09:26] <Vander> :P
[09:26] <HP_Administrator> Could anyone tell me where i would find the x86_64 for WINE for Ubuntu64?
[09:26] <Vander> okay, is there a way to change the screen resolution?
[09:26] <voicu> i have some problems installing kde3.5. in aptitude i get broken packages because of old versions in the repos (for example libc6-2.3.4 is needed and in the repos there is only 2.3.2). where can i find repos with newer packages?
[09:27] <graft> Vander - yeah, hit CTRL-ALT-+ or CTRL-ALT -
[09:27] <mebaran151> hey
[09:27] <mebaran151> anyone know anything about multisync
[09:27] <Vander> oh shit, it broke
[09:27] <mebaran151> I've set up my sync pairs
[09:27] <kuraia> hi all
[09:27] <gnomefreak> what is the latest version of kde?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> 3.5?
[09:27] <mebaran151> (from evolution to backup) and nothing works
[09:27] <Kindred> HP_Administrator, there isn't a 64 bit version of wine
[09:27] <graft> 3.5 is in beta
[09:27] <Vander> it was all in a bubbleish thing
[09:27] <graft> 3.4.3 is the latest release
[09:27] <kuraia> how can i know if i have iptables integrated in the kernel?
[09:27] <jtibau> elia: sigue sin encontrar el paquete
[09:27] <gnomefreak> graft, ty
[09:28] <mebaran151> graft, nope 3.5.0 is
[09:28] <diok> hi
[09:28] <graft> err... since when?
[09:28] <nandro> is  there a way to download files specificly torrents directly to a shared folder on a windows server?  I can get access to the win folders, but they dont show up in the btorrent client as available places to download
[09:28] <psusi> HP_Administrator: there isn't one... you have to install the 32 bit version in a 32bit chroot
[09:28] <gnomefreak> ok lets try what one comes with dapper?
[09:28] <jtibau> elia: ya se bajaron todos los repositorios pero sigo con el problema
[09:28] <kalin> i couldn't open .wma files with the w32 codecs
[09:28] <mebaran151> I was reading the release
[09:28] <graft> well, shit
[09:28] <elia> Jtibau, despues de hacer esto, dale sudo aptitude update
[09:28] <HP_Administrator> ah ok
[09:28] <Vander> dammit
[09:28] <Vander> pardon my language
[09:28] <graft> nm, apparently kde 3.5 has been out for a month now
[09:28] <jtibau> elia: si lo hice
[09:28] <gnomefreak> it looked like 3.5 on packages.ubuntu.com but wasnt sure
[09:28] <mebaran151> graft, http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.php
[09:28] <voicu> can someone tell where can i find repos with newer packages than those kubuntu comes from default
[09:28] <voicu> ?
[09:29] <Vander> is there a way to change my resolution to something that I can still see the whole screen at?
[09:29] <kalin> i couln't open .wma files with the w32 codecs
[09:29] <elia> metete a #comos alli te ayudan, te espero alli
[09:29] <kuraia> kalin install this package gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[09:29] <graft> looks like ubuntu is still on 3.4.3, tho
[09:29] <mebaran151> KDE 3.5.0 is a lot nicer than 3.4.3, but for me, KDE is always buggy
[09:29] <mebaran151> especially Kontact, which never does at its options would make you think
[09:29] <graft> does anyone know how you can track package release cycles?
[09:30] <graft> e.g., when are they going to get around to updating amarok packages?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop should give me lateset version right?
[09:30] <pashaw> Vander,    dpkg-reconfigure  not working for you?
[09:30] <graft> gnomefreak, yeah
[09:30] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[09:31] <Vander> the what?
[09:31] <graft> Vander, you should be able to do it on the fly
[09:31] <pashaw> Vander,   youll have to hand edit the xorg.conf       under screen    and subsection display
[09:31] <graft> with CTRL-ALT-+, etc.
[09:31] <graft> but your desktop might be virtual
[09:31] <graft> so it won't scale down to fit on screen
[09:31] <Vander> yeah, but it messed up the screen and Icouldn't get the full page on my screen
[09:31] <kuraia> how can i know if i have iptables integrated in my kernel?
[09:31] <graft> yeah
[09:31] <graft> there's some way to change that... lemme see if i can remember
[09:32] <xenex> how do i get .wmv files to play?
[09:33] <Vander> ok, what are the commone resolutions that won't make a bubble?
[09:33] <TTilus> graft: do you mean "release cycles" like being able to see when the previous releases have come or like having an estimate of next release date?
[09:33] <Vander> I found a program that resizes my reso
[09:33] <filip_> What should i add to my /boot/grub/menu.lst so i can boot in to recovery mode?
[09:33] <graft> hey vander... goto um
[09:33] <graft> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes
[09:33] <graft> read the first FAQ
[09:33] <Snake__> Hey all
[09:33] <pashaw> filip_,    why  did you remove them?
[09:33] <TTilus> xenex: try $ totem blah.wmv
[09:34] <Snake__> Would anyone in here happen to be a network guru?
[09:34] <voicu> Does someone know a repo where I can find newer packages (for example libc6-2.3.4 not 2.3.2 as in the default repos)? Please, i started pulling my hair out.
[09:34] <xenex> TTilus: it says i need to download win32 codecs
[09:34] <Vander> thanks
[09:34] <filip_> pashaw: I have not add them yet!
[09:34] <graft> TTilus: estimate of next release date
[09:34] <Zambba> Snake__: Say your question. Ask about your problem, don't ask does someone has answer to your unknown problem.
[09:34] <pashaw> filip_,   they are added by default  in breezy for sure
[09:34] <TTilus> graft: mm, that would generally be "when it is ready"
[09:35] <graft> heh
[09:35] <graft> okay
[09:35] <TTilus> graft: afaik theres no way
[09:35] <kalin> it wasn't possible to open .wma files with w32 codecs =(
[09:35] <kalin> =..(
[09:35] <kalin> =...(
[09:35] <kalin> =:::(
[09:35] <TTilus> graft: ...other than following the development closely
[09:35] <keyhack> Ubuntu comes with bootsplash already installed right, so I can customize it to be my own theme?
[09:35] <filip_> pashaw: If you install grub when you install ubuntu yes but i have Arch to so i need to know what it is i should add to get it.
[09:35] <Epix> Whaa? I try to partition my drive and I get stuff saying that the drive is busy. Im on a LiveCD!!!
[09:35] <danny> t
[09:36] <pashaw> voicu,  if your not using the default  repository   desktops  your kinda on your own
[09:36] <skon> keyhack: yes, you can used the themed greeter
[09:36] <TTilus> Epix: do you have your drive mounted?
[09:36] <TTilus> Epix: what does sudo mount tell?
[09:36] <Epix> one sec
[09:36] <|Lestat|> Anyone here familiar with wireless usb adapters that could help me out a little? :)
[09:36] <TTilus> Epix: is the drive you are trying to partition listed?
[09:36] <moea> is there some way i can watch WMV3 files without building any packages from source?
[09:36] <keyhack> Does ubuntu have a minimalistic install? Or do you use Debian for that?
[09:36] <lucasvo> keyhack: server
[09:36] <skon> keyhack: type "server" at the install bootscreen
[09:36] <Zambba> keyhack: Ubuntu does have a minimalistic install.
[09:37] <Sephran> quick emergency question, I'm helping someone out with a half broken harddrive, and I'm using ubuntu live to get it to start...so we can get a few files from windows. What commands are needed to mount?
[09:37] <keyhack> nice, good
[09:37] <Zambba> yea "server"
[09:37] <TTilus> keyhack: minimalistic like?
[09:37] <moea> even if it means converting them to another format
[09:37] <keyhack> I want the bare-bones OS installed
[09:37] <pashaw> filip_,    read your ubuntu created lines    and backtrack  i suppose
[09:37] <keyhack> and want to install packages as I please
[09:37] <skon> sephran: www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:37] <Snake__> Zambba: I would, but i dont know of the problem yet
[09:37] <TTilus> keyhack: small hd footprint or small memory footprint or what?
[09:37] <Snake__> lol
[09:37] <graft> hey xenex - use mplayer, it should be able to handle wmvs just fine, unless they're DRM'd
[09:37] <Snake__> How hard would it be to set up linux to share dirs to windows PCs?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[09:37] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[09:37] <skon> Snake__: which way?
[09:37] <Zambba> Sephran: mkdir /mnt/windisk and mount -t ntfs (or vfat) /dev/hdXX /mnt/windisk
[09:38] <lucasvo> keyhack: and if you need a small X windowsystem, look at the xubuntu-desktop package from main repository
[09:38] <graft> Snake__ - windows can't mount ext3, but Linux can mount NTFS okay
[09:38] <xenex> graft: it gave me like 3 errors
[09:38] <Snake__> I need to share files from my linux to other PCs
[09:38] <keyhack> lucasvo: Yes! I just need X, no WM
[09:38] <xenex> graft: vlcplayer worked but it only got sound
[09:38] <pashaw> keyhack,   server install   with xubuntu-desktop     is useful and small
[09:38] <Snake__> If not, ill just install windows on here
[09:38] <Zambba> lucasvo and keyhack: And if very tiny, apt-get install xserver-xorg xdm fluxbox
[09:38] <lucasvo> keyhack: it uses xfce
[09:38] <skon> Snake__: probably won't work
[09:38] <graft> xenex - ah, then at least it's not encrypted
[09:38] <Sephran> is that a case sensitive command zambba?
[09:38] <Snake__> skon: Whys that??
[09:38] <Epix_> TTilus: wireless reset... sorry. No, it isnt there.
[09:38] <flixil> #gentoo-es
[09:38] <keyhack> I don't want a wm at all, this is going to be a set top box for my TV, running X with a Java application
[09:38] <moea> xenex: did you get the following message printed on the console: "[00000302]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'."
[09:38] <Zambba> keyhack: You need some WM. X doesn't work alone afaik. But you can use Fluxbox, IceWM or other *box.
[09:38] <TTilus> Snake__: separate machines and sharing files thru net?  go for samba
[09:39] <voicu> pashaw: kde3.5 needs libc6-2.3.4, in the repos there is only libc6-2.3.2 (just an example). I think that there has to be a place where I can find those newer packages because there a lot of people using kde3.5 on kubuntu. They had to get those from somewhere...
[09:39] <graft> Snake__ - yeah, use Samba or NFS
[09:39] <Andares> Hey
[09:39] <Snake__> Is samba a OS
[09:39] <Snake__> or program?
[09:39] <Andares> What is libstdc++ called?
[09:39] <Andares> Snake__, program
[09:39] <keyhack> People in ##java said X will use its own low-level UI if no WM is present
[09:39] <flixil> ups sorry
[09:39] <Snake__> Okay is it hard to set up???
[09:39] <Zambba> Sephran: It's all lower case. You need to replace /dev/hdXX with real hard disk partition like /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdc3.
[09:39] <TTilus> Epix_: weirdo, cant help then, sorry
[09:39] <pashaw> voicu,    maybe #kubuntu  would be a better channel
[09:39] <xenex> moea: no
[09:39] <Andares> keyhack, they probably meant TWM
[09:39] <gnomefreak> voicu,  there is a kubuntu repo to put in your sources list
[09:39] <graft> xenex - well, what does it say?
[09:40] <xenex> graft: signal 11 error
[09:40] <keyhack> because really, the Java app is going to run full-screen, and I don't want any windows decorations
[09:40] <Vander> what's the difference between tar.gz and tar.bz2?
[09:40] <graft> Snake__  - depends, how savvy are you?
[09:40] <pashaw> Snake__,   no its not   but youll have to read the directions  or a guide on the net
[09:40] <gnomefreak> !tell voicu about easysource
[09:40] <xenex> graft: and the other 2 errors say mplayer crashed
[09:40] <cmatheson> Vander: bz2 is higher compression
[09:40] <keyhack> I won't be using it for anything other than this sole Java TV application
[09:40] <Vander> okay, thanks
[09:40] <TTilus> Snake__: go google, samba is windows networking copatibility software for unices
[09:40] <xenex> graft: i also get a little sound in the beginning but then errors pop up
[09:40] <cmatheson> keyhack: if you don't want window decorations just don't use a window-manager
[09:40] <graft> xenex - hmm, ouch. how big is the file?
[09:40] <Zambba> Vander: They are compressed with different compression method. .gz = gzip, .bz2 = bzip2.
[09:40] <pashaw> Snake__,   even better   google   samba guide
[09:40] <keyhack> cmatheson: People are saying you can't use X without a wm here
[09:40] <Zambba> Vander: bzip2 can compress it smaller
[09:40] <Vander> and what does the Tar stand for?
[09:40] <xenex> graft: 5.8mb
[09:40] <Andares> What is libstdc++ called in apt-get??!!!
[09:41] <cmatheson> keyhack: that's wildly untrue, i've done it a million times
[09:41] <gnomefreak> !samba
[09:41] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:41] <xwolf-> when i click administrator mode in kubuntu, it just asks the password, i type it but nothing changes after the load up, why is that?
[09:41] <Snake__> okay
[09:41] <keyhack> cmatheson: So then just do a server install, and then install "xserver-xorg" and I'm done?
[09:41] <graft> xenex - wanna email it to me?
[09:41] <cmatheson> keyhack: just make a ~/.xsession file (it has to be executable), w/ 'exec whatever_your_program_is'
[09:41] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   not sure why using ubotu  didnt pop into my head
[09:41] <Snake__> Another question: I got a 266 mhz, 64 mb RAM PC for the server, what GUI would run okay on it aside from fluxbox
[09:41] <xenex> graft: okay, what is your email?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> pashaw, lol
[09:41] <gnomefreak> its so much easier :)
[09:42] <keyhack> cmatheson: From experience, getting X to work with my video card from a server install is a pain
[09:42] <keyhack> but I haven't in like a year or so, so no idea how things progressed
[09:42] <cmatheson> keyhack: hmm, what kind of videocard is it?
[09:42] <keyhack> with the server install too, I still want the bootsplash, so I'm sure I have to find a way to get that post-install
[09:42] <graft> Andares - libstdc++<some number>
[09:42] <Andares> graft
[09:43] <Andares> it breaks
[09:43] <Andares> :(
[09:43] <keyhack> cmatheson: No idea, I havent touched it in a while
[09:43] <xwolf-> when i click administrator mode in kubuntu, it just asks the password, i type it but nothing changes after the load up, why is that?
[09:43] <cmatheson> keyhack: unless you're way hurting for space you could still just do the standard desktop install
[09:43] <graft> Andares - it breaks? how so?
[09:43] <Epix> ok, cfdisk also says that the device is busy. but it isnt...
[09:43] <keyhack> cmatheson: Space is not an issue
[09:43] <Andares> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/libgcc1_4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[09:43] <pashaw> Snake__,   try  xubuntu
[09:43] <graft> Andares - apt-get update
[09:43] <Snake__> pashaw: I was thinkin about that, would xfce run alright on that system?
[09:43] <markrian> psusi: won't "rm .*" remove . and .. ?
[09:43] <cmatheson> keyhack: yeah, so just go ahead and install everything and save yourself the pain
[09:43] <Andares> graft, still errors
[09:44] <keyhack> cmatheson: But I don't want Gnome/KDE and all that garbage to run
[09:44] <derms> does this distro crash for anyone else in X11?
[09:44] <graft> Andares - get a diff. mirror
[09:44] <pashaw> Snake__,   made a world of diff on my 192mb laptop
[09:44] <Andares> graft, how?
[09:44] <markrian> psusi: the hidden directories I want to delete are non-empty
[09:44] <cmatheson> keyhack: that's ok, just cuz it's installed doesn't mean it has to run
[09:44] <pashaw> Snake__,   you can forget gnome and kde
[09:44] <skon> markrian: rm -rf *
[09:44] <Snake__> pashaw: all right ill try it
[09:44] <Snake__> I knew those wouldn't run
[09:44] <Snake__> lol
[09:44] <graft> Andares - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:44] <Vander> okay, what would be an msn messenger that you would recommend?
[09:44] <Snake__> If I cant get linux to share my files, imma go drag my ass to putting XP on it
[09:44] <Snake__> lol
[09:44] <pashaw> Snake__,   do a server install   then  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <markrian> skon: tried that, didn't delete dot files
[09:44] <cmatheson> keyhack: all you're going to have ot do is make a ~/.xsession file that runs the stuff you want (and it won't run *anything* except what you specify there)
[09:45] <keyhack> cmatheson: Ah, ok
[09:45] <keyhack> cmatheson: Thanks for all your ideas
[09:45] <Vander> key heh
[09:45] <Sephran> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/windisk': Permission denied
[09:45] <Vander> *twiddles me thimbles*
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Sephran, use sudo
[09:46] <gnomefreak> sudo mkdir ......
[09:46] <Sephran> sudo mount /mnt/windisk    ?
[09:46] <Sephran> err
[09:46] <Sephran> mkdir
[09:46] <lucasvo> Sephran: yes
[09:46] <graft> Vander - use gaim... it's pretty much awesome
[09:46] <|GaiJin|> is there a place that lists diffrent backport locations?? Or have anyone here a source for TeamSpeak??
[09:46] <NCLife> good day everyone.. how can i rename /usr/bin/eject to /usr/bin/eject_orig, and created a shell script /usr/bin/eject?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> gaim 2.0 is nice :)
[09:46] <cmatheson> keyhack: no problem, good luck
[09:46] <Vander> is gaim an AIM clone?
[09:46] <NCLife> create*
[09:46] <gnomefreak> not stable but nice :)
[09:47] <lucasvo> NCLife: begin with sudo mv /usr/bin/eject /usr/bin/eject_orig
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Vander, yes kind of
[09:47] <graft> Vander - started off that way... now it supports like 12 different IM protocols
[09:47] <Zambba> |GaiJin|: Try out www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic . But I'm afraid that you can't get Teamspeak in a .deb
[09:47] <Vander> dude
[09:47] <NCLife> okayz lucas :)
[09:47] <Vander> cool
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gaim can connect to all different im clients
[09:47] <Vander> gaim it is :)
[09:47] <garyc> can anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera
[09:47] <Vander> thanks :)
[09:47] <pashaw> Snake__,    read this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu
[09:47] <|GaiJin|> Zambba, Thanks
[09:47] <gnomefreak> garyc, nope go to opera.com and get the static version
[09:47] <graft> sorry, it only supports 9 different IM protocols...
[09:47] <lucasvo> NCLife: but it may be a little bit tricky for e.g. gnome wouldn't be able to eject the discs anymore
[09:48] <Sephran> step two, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk   ?
[09:48] <ilba7r> garyc opera webpage has a repos for deb installation
[09:48] <gnomefreak> garyc,  there is an opera repo you can add to sources.list
[09:48] <Snake__> pashaw: I know how to get xubuntu ;)
[09:48] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[09:48] <ubotu> I heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:48] <gnomefreak> theres an opera repo there
[09:48] <Sephran> just as a note, the hard disk isnt showing up in diskstations ....and I also dont know if it's in ntfs or fat
[09:48] <garyc> I am there how do i look for static
[09:48] <skon> Sephran: what's the OS?
[09:48] <Sephran> windows xp
[09:49] <Vander> wow, Gaim also supports IRC >.>
[09:49] <gnomefreak> garyc,  use easysource its easier
[09:49] <skon> Sephran: ntfs
[09:49] <gnomefreak> Vander, yes it does :)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> i havent tried irc on gaim yet and dont really plan to
[09:50] <NCLife> lucasvo, uuh.. :S the problem is my ipod dont ejects properly, so i read a post in the forums where i should make a small shell script which checks what is being ejected, and if it is an iPod, use sudo to eject it.
[09:50] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -t ntfs /mnt/windisk
[09:50] <Sephran> mount: only root can do that
[09:50] <Vander> gnomefreak: which download should I take? fedora core, mandrake, red hat?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> Vander, for what?
[09:50] <lucasvo> NCLife: in that case it shouldn't be any problem
[09:50] <|Lestat|> can anyone here give me a  hand trouble shooting my weireless usb? (i can see it, it just wont pull an ip from the router)
[09:50] <Vander> for gaim
[09:50] <danny> can anyone help me to change the login theme plz
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gaim what?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> gaim is in the repos
[09:51] <NCLife> oks :)
[09:51] <graft> Vander - gaim is in ubuntu
[09:51] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:51] <Vander> repos..?
[09:51] <Vander> oh...?
[09:51] <lucasvo> danny: system > administration > logintheme
[09:51] <Vander> oh, I see. Thanks :)
[09:51] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk
[09:51] <Sephran> mount: only root can do that     :(
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Vander, ubuntu install default installs gaim
[09:51] <Snake__> Can 98SE read NTFS.....?
[09:51] <Epix> oh. damn. Nobody can fix this! I can only resize my boot and swap partition! The other is aparently busy! It isnt mounted!!! Help :'(
[09:51] <odat> hi everyone
[09:52] <xiaogil> how to read the syslog ?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> go to applications>internet>gaim
[09:52] <NCLife> lucasvo,  so after ive renamed it, how can i start making a shell script usr/bin/eject?
[09:52] <Sephran> I'm definatly forgetting something, but what?
[09:52] <gjc> help, what to do to file a bug report against a package that launchpad.net doesn't recognize?
[09:52] <graft> Epix - are you in a mounted directory in the shell?
[09:52] <lucasvo> NCLife: gksudo gedit /usr/bin/eject
[09:52] <Zambba> Sephran: Put sudo in front of the mount command.
[09:52] <skon> Sephran: sudo ?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> gjc,  applications>systemtools>bugzilla
[09:53] <Sephran> ....damn sudo, he needs to be shot
[09:53] <lucasvo> NCLife: or sudo vi /usr/bin/eject
[09:53] <gnomefreak> or bug report tool whatever its called
[09:53] <NCLife> okay, and that will open a programm where i simply copy/paste the script code?
[09:53] <Zambba> Snake__: Win95, Win98 and WinMe can read only FATs.
[09:53] <danny> lucasvo, thanks for that easier then i thought
[09:53] <Epix> graft: no.
[09:53] <gnomefreak> gjc, what ubuntu version do you have?
[09:53] <gjc> gnomefreak: really? doesn't that bug report to bugzilla.gnome.org?
[09:53] <Snake__> Zambba: thanks
[09:53] <gjc> gnomefreak: breezy
[09:53] <gnomefreak> yes gjc
[09:54] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk
[09:54] <Sephran> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[09:54] <gnomefreak> theres bug in breezy?
[09:54] <Sephran>        missing codepage or other error
[09:54] <pashaw> !bugzilla
[09:54] <ubotu> I guess bugzilla is at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <Sephran>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:54] <Sephran>        dmesg | tail  or so                  it seems to me, hda1 isnt the one? I can't check wich one it ought to be
[09:54] <gjc> gnomefreak: it's not a gnome package, it's a universe package (libortp)
[09:54] <elia> how i can know what version do I have?
[09:54] <graft> Epix - what is the other partition?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> gjc,  bugzilla isnt just for gnome
[09:54] <skon> Sephran: you need umask type
[09:54] <gnomefreak> its for ubuntu in general
[09:55] <garyc> gnomefreak, point me to getting and setting up the repository
[09:55] <Sephran> and that is skon?  ..I'm a 20 minute ubuntu live newbie with HD problems ;)
[09:55] <gjc> gnomefreak: I'm not sure I agree with that :)
[09:55] <Epix> graft: i big one for / ... everything but /boot
[09:55] <gnomefreak> gjc,  it is for ubuntu not for gnome
[09:55] <pashaw> Sephran,   sudo fdisk -l      should list your drive info
[09:55] <skon> Sephran: 1 sec
[09:55] <keyhack> What packages do I install after a "server" install to get the bootsplash?
[09:55] <graft> Epix - how are you trying to partition it?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> garyc,  do you have the repo for opera yet?
[09:56] <gjc> gnomefreak: bugzilla.gnome.org? you must mean bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[09:56] <garyc> gnomefreak, no
[09:56] <gnomefreak> gjc,  yes ubuntu
[09:56] <gjc> ah :)
[09:56] <Sephran> it's listing a few things, to whom can paste the message for review?
[09:56] <skon> Sephran:  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:56] <Sephran> can I*
[09:56] <kat0> any ideas why no-one but root can access files on a cd-r drive? fresh 5.10 install
[09:56] <gnomefreak> garyc, go to easysource and check the boxes next to the opera repo and hit send
[09:57] <skon> kat0: is it mounted?
[09:57] <murr> umm.. should XV work with the proprietary ATI drivers?
[09:57] <pashaw> !tell Sephran about pastebin
[09:57] <gnomefreak> than you need to paste the output in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:57] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[09:57] <ubotu> well, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:57] <pashaw> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:57] <kat0> skon: i'm not sure, how do i check?
[09:57] <NCLife> lucasvo, and finaly, where is my sudoers file? i need to put there some little code
[09:57] <gjc> gnomefreak: problem is, bugzilla.ubuntu.com redirects to launchpad.net for bugs in universe packages
[09:57] <graft> kat0 - sudo mount
[09:58] <gjc> gnomefreak: and launchpad.net doesn't recognize libortp :/
[09:58] <Vander> holy shiznut, how do you install stuff?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> gjc,  are you using gnome right now?
[09:58] <skon> kat0: sudo mount
[09:58] <lucasvo> NCLife: find sudo
[09:58] <gjc> *sigh* you really are a gnome freak, gnomefreak :)
[09:58] <kat0> thanks graft. i don't see it
[09:58] <gnomefreak> gjc,  you click the bug report tool it will send you to right place
[09:58] <lucasvo> NCLife: locate is even better
[09:58] <graft> kat0 - how can root read it?
[09:58] <lucasvo> NCLife: /etc/sudoers
[09:59] <skon> Vander: please ask a more specific question if you want it answered
[09:59] <gnomefreak> seeing as this is ubuntu not kubuntu these are directions for gnome
[09:59] <gjc> gnomefreak: i'm using gnome, but this is a simple library, unrelated to gnome platform
[09:59] <Sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6338
[09:59] <NCLife> thankss
[09:59] <gnomefreak> gjc,  use the tool or dont im telling you its not just for gnome
[09:59] <Linux_whore> what is the /dev device for a usb card reader plugged into the front of a pc?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> i just used it to search for kubuntu issue
[09:59] <kat0> only root has read/write access. users get no permissions error.
[10:00] <gjc> gnomefreak: unless it doesn't file bugs to gnome.org... I'll try, thanks
[10:00] <murr> could anyone using the proprietary ATI drivers tell whether XV works for them?
[10:00] <cmatheson> Linux_whore: it probably wouldn't have a device file until you plugged something that is a device into it (like a card)
[10:00] <kat0> let me put in a disc and try mounting it again.
[10:00] <Sephran> the thing I pasted, hda1 is the main windos HD?
[10:00] <skon> Sephran: you're trying to boot hda1 as an ntfs and it doesn't work that way, you must do fat32 ro something
[10:00] <graft> kat0 - i mean, how are you trying to read and write to it?
[10:00] <gjc> *sigh*
[10:00] <gjc> "System Tools -> Bug report tool" just launches epiphany with bugzilla.ubuntu.com :(
[10:01] <Sephran> sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk   ?
[10:01] <Syche> Does anyone know the requirements in the kernel for the bootsplash. Which modules _have_ to be selected
[10:01] <lucasvo> gjc: what do you want to bugreport?
[10:01] <Syche> for a custom kernel
[10:01] <flixil> hi kuraia
[10:01] <skon> Sephran: try it
[10:01] <kuraia> hi flixil
[10:01] <graft> Sephran - can you post your sudo mount output?
[10:01] <gjc> lucasvo: just missing .pc file in libortp0-dev
[10:01] <kuraia> flixil how are you?
[10:02] <barro> any know how to configure a "webcam creative nx ultra"? It does not exist driver
[10:02] <Linux_whore> when dual booting xp and ubuntu, does there need to be any unpartitioned free space left on a single hdd?
[10:02] <Hecxa> hi, recommended and minimun system requirements for Ubuntu? (link?)
[10:02] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk
[10:02] <flixil> I am ready... Do you want to start?
[10:02] <Dr_Acemaster> Linux_whore: have room for swap space?
[10:02] <Sephran> mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32'
[10:02] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t fat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk
[10:02] <Sephran> mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'
[10:02] <Sephran> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:02] <Syche> sephran   vfat
[10:02] <Linux_whore> dr_acemaster: yes, i mean after ubuntu is installed and the swap partition has been made
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[10:03] <ubotu> :)
[10:03] <Dr_Acemaster> Linux_whore: shouldn't need anymore space
[10:03] <Dr_Acemaster> would just be wasted :)
[10:03] <graft> Sephran, what does just "sudo mount" say?
[10:03] <Sephran> Ill pastebin it, hold on
[10:04] <skon> yes Sephran change to vfat
[10:05] <Sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6339
[10:05] <Linux_whore> should swap be the only logical partition?
[10:05] <eddye> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly" Anyone knows this problem?
[10:05] <Sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6338 for disk info
[10:06] <Hecxa> I suppose PIII 700Mhz 256Mt is enough to run Ubuntu smoothly enough?
[10:06] <skon> Sephran: it looks like it's mounted already
[10:06] <lucasvo> Hecxa: you will probably have problem with gnome
[10:06] <skon> Sephran: try cd /mnt/hda1 then do ls -alh
[10:06] <eddye> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly" Anyone knows this problem?
[10:06] <coNP> Hecxa: depends on the apps you want to run
[10:06] <lucasvo> Hecxa: you could try xubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <lucasvo> eddye: you have an error in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <eddye> lucasvo: how can i fix it?
[10:07] <coNP> Hecxa: I would say this will be enough for gnome
[10:07] <Sephran>  cd /mnt/hda1 doesnt work,  cd /mnt/windisk does
[10:07] <graft> Sephran - looks like you're good to go
[10:07] <lucasvo> eddye: depends on what H/w you have
[10:07] <gjc> ok, for the record, the bug I wanted to report is no bug :P
[10:08] <Hecxa> lucasvo, coNP, ok.. thanks..
[10:08] <skon> Sephran: yup, my typo....looks like it works
[10:08] <gjc> the .pc file is only available in 1.2.x version, not 1.0.x :P
[10:08] <gjc> cheers
[10:08] <Sephran> well..where do I access visually the HD?
[10:08] <eddye> lucasvo: i am a newb = can you say to me less professionaly :)
[10:08] <kuraia> does anybody want to play typespeed with me?
[10:08] <keyhack> What packages do I install after a "server" install to get the bootsplash?
[10:08] <skon> Sephran: Places | Computer
[10:08] <Sephran> ah found it, under file system
[10:09] <xiaogil> i can't make mysql work on ubuntu... can someone help me ? I put the syslog is at : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/35201
[10:09] <lucasvo> eddye: you didn't configure the X correctly...
[10:09] <lucasvo> eddye: there are 10000 possibilities
[10:09] <skon> Cheers Sephran :-D
[10:09] <puff> Dammit...
[10:09] <puff> My laptop thinks it's running on battery poiwer.
[10:09] <lucasvo> eddye: first you need to determine which graphic card it is
[10:09] <skon> eddye: could be caused by a graphix card
[10:09] <puff> But it's plugged into the dock.
[10:09] <skon> puff: check for loose connections
[10:10] <eddye> Ati Radeon 9000
[10:10] <MrMazda> lucasvo: on http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/Font/fonts-comps-dejavu.html are sans mono oblique and sans mono bold oblique identical for you?
[10:10] <Sephran> thanks for everything, now it seems some of the files are also on the D partition, wich would be hda2 ?  also..I'm looking to transfer over the files through the network to the laptop
[10:10] <eddye> 65536 KB
[10:10] <eddye> :)
[10:10] <puff> skon: Just did... the screen got brighter when I docked it,which is usually a sign that it's getting power.
[10:11] <Vander> okay, I am trying to install GCC, but I seem to be unable to determine exactly what I am supposed to do, since Installation in Linux is quite different from anything else. Would anyone be able to guide me through the "installation" process please?
[10:11] <skon> puff: hmm.....is the laptop-support package installed?
[10:11] <zenlunatic> how do i get "libtoolize"?
[10:11] <lucasvo> MrMazda: no they don't
[10:11] <lucasvo> MrMazda: the one is italic :D
[10:11] <Linux_whore> should a fat32 partition be on a logical on primary partition?
[10:11] <MrMazda> are you on breezy lucasvo ?
[10:11] <lucasvo> MrMazda: no
[10:11] <skon> Vander: first learn how to enable your respoitories then do sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:11] <lucasvo> MrMazda: dapper
[10:11] <puff> Heh.... now it just jumped from "System is running on battery power/8 minutes (4%) left" to ""System is running on battery power/2 hours 29 minutes (4%) left"
[10:12] <Hecxa> I am currently using Vector Linux on this old laptop to do the shit'n tricks, and hoping Ubuntu isnt at least much slower to use.. time to kind a "chance socks"
[10:12] <skon> !repositories
[10:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:12] <MrMazda> can anyone on breezy goto http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/Font/fonts-comps-dejavu.html and see if sans mono oblique and sans mono bold oblique identical for you?
[10:12] <graft> Vander : sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:12] <puff> Hm, no, laptop-mode is installed, but not laptop-support.
[10:13] <puff> I guess (looking at "aptitude search laptop") that laptop-mode is the package you're talking about.
[10:13] <eddye> anyone knows how to configure the **** xorg.conf
[10:13] <eddye> ?
[10:13] <Vander> where can I see a "list" of "repositories" available for me to download?
[10:13] <Linux_whore> does it matter if a fat32 partition is on a logical on primary partition?
[10:13] <MrMazda> lucasvo: firefox, or konq?
[10:14] <lucasvo> MrMazda: firefox of course... :D
[10:14] <puff> Hm, laptop-mode-tools.
[10:14] <moodog> eddye: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xord
[10:14] <Sephran> can someone tell me some of the basic stpes, of accessing the network..specificly the laptop on the other end?
[10:14] <AnonymousHive> eddye: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <moodog> eddye: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <skon> puff: yeah , sorry...dunno what's wrong
[10:14] <MrMazda> lucasvo: here FF gets it wrong, and Konq gets it right
[10:14] <eddye> AnonymousHive: tryed that moodog: tryed that too
[10:14] <AnonymousHive> Do you have xorg installed?
[10:14] <eddye> AnonymousHive:
[10:14] <eddye> yes
[10:14] <AnonymousHive> I believe it comes standard with Breezy
[10:14] <moodog> eddye: what problems do you get?
[10:14] <AnonymousHive> Are you running Breezy?
[10:15] <eddye> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly"
[10:15] <skon> Vander: do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of all the #'s in front of the websites and then save it, then do sudo apt-get update then install gcc
[10:15] <Zambba> !easysource
[10:15] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:15] <moodog> eddye: anything in the X logs?
[10:16] <eddye> nothing special
[10:16] <ludi> is there a way to install ubuntu by pointing to the ISO file on a local hard drive?
[10:16] <cmatheson> ludi: you could mount the iso as a loopback file (unless you're going to delete that partition)
[10:17] <garyc> gnomefreak, i went into repositories  i don't see easysource  or opera check boxes
[10:17] <jono> hi all
[10:17] <jono> which kernel option do I choose for the ralink rt2500 wireless driver?
[10:17] <eddye> I spended 8Hours working with my problems and no succes so can anyone please help me with my problems :)
[10:17] <MrMazda> lucasvo: here FF 1.0.7 makes both non-bold, FF 1.5 makes both bold, and Konq gets it right (one normal, other bold)
[10:17] <moodog> jono: hi here too :)
[10:17] <cmatheson> !tell eddye about anyone
[10:17] <skon> jono: search the Ubuntu Wiki for that...there's a whole tutorial on it
[10:17] <lucasvo> MrMazda: did you get my query?
[10:17] <Vander> ah crap, how do we save a file from the ommand line again? >.>
[10:17] <ludi> cmatheson:  no I mean like booting from the floppy installer and then pointing to like the location on a local hard drive that has the ISO file already downloaded
[10:17] <eddye> And how can I make a default xorg.conf file?
[10:17] <cmatheson> Vander: what do you mean?
[10:17] <moodog> eddye: if thats the only error message and there is nothing in the log files it's going to be hard to help
[10:17] <MrMazda> lucasvo: what query?
[10:18] <lucasvo> MrMazda: what I wrote you
[10:18] <eddye> moodog: how can i make a default xorg config
[10:18] <moodog> eddye: remove xorg and reinstall?
[10:18] <cmatheson> ludi: you could boot off floppy's (i've heard there are instructions in the forum or something), and then you could only point it to a cd on your hard-drive if you mounted it as a loop-back file and didn't delete that partition
[10:18] <skon> Vander: once you're in nano, do Ctrl O
[10:18] <eddye> how do i reinstall
[10:18] <eddye> and remove
[10:18] <eddye> I'm such a newb :(
[10:18] <Vander> right, thanks
[10:18] <AnonymousHive> use sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> then use sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:19] <Epix> are nofstab and noswap valid cheatcodes?
[10:19] <Amaranth> AnonymousHive: eek, no
[10:19] <MrMazda> lucasvo: my chat client blocks private messages
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> lol Amaranth
[10:19] <ludi> cmatheson:  why do I need to mount it as a loop-back file?  I have 2 hard drives on my local PC, so the ISO would be on the other hard drive (not the one I'm installing to)
[10:19] <moodog> eddye: or copy one of the backups that are in the /etc/X11/?
[10:19] <Amaranth> AnonymousHive: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> Aaaah
[10:19] <lucasvo> MrMazda: hm, can't you unblock
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> That's a new one >.>
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> lol
[10:19] <Amaranth> AnonymousHive: or just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, if that's what you're after
[10:19] <eddye> moodog: tryed that ill try the AnonymousHive hint
[10:19] <eddye> be right back
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> Amaranth: He tried that, but it doesn't work for him
[10:19] <eddye> :)
[10:19] <MrMazda> lucasvo: not without a restart that will loose my scrollbacks in 15 channels
[10:19] <AnonymousHive> No!
[10:19] <Epix> are they?
[10:20] <AnonymousHive> eddye
[10:20] <AnonymousHive> use what AMaranth said
[10:20] <cmatheson> ludi: because the installer's not looking for an iso it's looking for a file-system
[10:20] <garyc> gnomefreak, i went into repositories  i don't see easysource  or opera check boxes
[10:20] <eddye> what did he said?
[10:20] <AnonymousHive> ;2~
[10:20] <AnonymousHive> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[10:20] <keyhack> What package is the bootsplash bundled with?
[10:20] <Amaranth> but xserver-xorg is just a metapackage
[10:20] <lucasvo> MrMazda: ok
[10:20] <Amaranth> so it won't do anything
[10:20] <eddye> ok
[10:20] <jono> does anyone know if the ralink rt2500 driver is included in the vanilla kernel?
[10:20] <Amaranth> except bring down ubuntu-desktop and some other stuff that you might not want to lose
[10:21] <AnonymousHive> I love Ubuntu =D
[10:21] <Amaranth> so what are you trying to do?
[10:21] <moodog> eddye: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you a working xorg.conf
[10:21] <ludi> cmatheson:  where are ubuntu forums?  looking for these instructions you mention
[10:21] <eddye> Amaranth: reinstall and hope that works
[10:21] <AnonymousHive> Amaranth: He has to configure his xorg.conf, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work, nore does nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:21] <skon> jono: did you check the wiki?
[10:21] <cmatheson> ludi: i'm not sure... ubuntuforums.org? i would probably just google
[10:21] <eddye> moodog: i tryed that but no succes
[10:21] <MrMazda> lucasvo: I focus on the web's impact on people with presbyopia
[10:21] <melodie> eddye why do you want to reinstall it for ?
[10:22] <jono> skon, I did and it says you can use the breezy kernel, but I need to use 2.6.14
[10:22] <eddye> maybe it will change my setting to default
[10:22] <eddye> :)
[10:22] <Amaranth> AnonymousHive: Doesn't work?
[10:22] <moodog> eddye: what options did you choose?
[10:22] <Amaranth> eddye: How does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not work?
[10:22] <eddye> moodog: dont know
[10:22] <AnonymousHive> Amaranth: It won't let him even access the app
[10:22] <moodog> eddye: what gfx card are you using/ do you have the right modules installed?
[10:22] <AnonymousHive> like it's not installed
[10:22] <Amaranth> I need error messages. :P
[10:22] <skon> eedye: what's wrong with www.ubuntuforums.org?
[10:22] <AnonymousHive> That is true, detailed error messages are good
[10:22] <Sunn_T> I'm installing Ubuntu and it's stuck at 6%. It's been on 6% for about 10min.
[10:22] <moodog> Amaranth: we did ask... he said nothing unusual...
[10:22] <Amaranth> /etc/X11/xorg.conf isn't there at all?
[10:23] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <eddye> moodog: yes i have and i am using Ati Radeon 9000 pro 64KB
[10:23] <Amaranth> make sure everything is installed
[10:23] <eddye>  i mean 64 MB :)
[10:23] <AnonymousHive> eddye: use ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <MrMazda> lucasvo: private message blocking prevents the common problem of /msg spammers overloading me with junk tabs
[10:23] <AnonymousHive> does it pop up anything
[10:23] <ludi> is there any way for me to install ubuntu on my PC *without* burning a CD?
[10:23] <eddye> AnonymousHive: wait
[10:23] <lucasvo> MrMazda: I already got the information I wanted
[10:23] <MrMazda> ludi: I do it with other distros all the time
[10:24] <moodog> MrMazda: I've bene using IRC for over a decade, never had a problem with /msg spamming... so it can't be that common.
[10:24] <eddye> AnonymousHive:
[10:24] <eddye> no
[10:24] <eddye> :(
[10:24] <MrMazda> moodog: it is on moznet
[10:24] <eddye> ill reinstall it
[10:24] <eddye> wait
[10:24] <ludi> MrMazda:  I have a 2nd hard drive in my PC and I just want to install ubuntu to it, but I don't have access to a burner
[10:24] <Zambba> I've had /msg spamming only on one network.
[10:24] <garyc> can anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera
[10:24] <Amaranth> eddye: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <Amaranth> eddye: make sure everything is installed
[10:25] <keyhack> Does anyone know much about Ubuntu's usplash?
[10:25] <eddye> Amaranth:
[10:25] <eddye> wait :)
[10:25] <MrMazda> ludi: you need some kind of Linux live CD to start with to put the installation kernel, initrd, and grub on the disk to get you started
[10:26] <ludi> MrMazda: what about a install floppy?
[10:26] <MrMazda> or use PXE boot
[10:26] <garyc> can anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera
[10:26] <eddye> Amaranth: i need the CD but i lost it wait ill search it
[10:26] <MrMazda> floppies can't fit 2.6 kernels
[10:26] <eddye> :)
[10:26] <ludi> MrMazda: I don't have a PXE server
[10:26] <Zambba> garyc: Easiest way is to go to Opera Software's download site and download a right Ubuntu package to your home folder. Then say "sudo dpkg -i opera_XXXXX.deb" (replace XXXX:s with real filename). If that ends to an error, say also "sudo apt-get -f install" that will fix broken dependencies.
[10:26] <Sunn_T> Why is Ubuntu installing all types of stuff and still on 6%?
[10:26] <Amaranth> Sunn_T: it most likely broke
[10:26] <MrMazda> ludi: is there someone you can get a live CD like Knoppix from?
[10:26] <moodog> garyc: try looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:26] <Amaranth> Sunn_T: hit alt-3 and/or alt-4 and see if you can see error messages
[10:27] <Sunn_T> What can I do?
[10:27] <garyc> Zambba, i did that and got dependency errors
[10:27] <Amaranth> Sunn_T: Try burning the CD at a slower speed.
[10:27] <Zambba> Okay. sudo apt-get -f install should fix them.
[10:27] <ludi> This is frustrating
[10:27] <moodog> garyc:  apt-get -f install ?
[10:28] <garyc> Zambba, got it  trying
[10:28] <garyc> moodog, got it  I am trying
[10:28] <moodog> garyc: check that url, it has some useful tips about adding things into the menus etc
[10:28] <jd_> Hey guys how do i make a SQL server for ubuntu
[10:28] <ludi> Can I burn the Ubuntu ISO to a DVD+R?
[10:29] <binarydigit> jd_: install a sql server through apt
[10:29] <Sunn_T> I don't see anything when I press Alt+3 or Alt+4.
[10:29] <MrMazda> ludi: theoretically it's possible to do from windoze, but I've never investigated
[10:29] <jd_> ok
[10:29] <ludi> Do I just download the regular ISO file if I want to burn it to a DVD?
[10:30] <Sunn_T> .ISO is for CD.
[10:30] <moodog> ludi: there is a DVD install image.... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ for links
[10:30] <xiaogil> i can't make mysql work on ubuntu... can someone help me ? I put the syslog is at : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/35201
[10:30] <ludi> moodog: why are there not any US mirros for the DVD install image?
[10:31] <FireRabbit> someone know why it is OK for ubuntu to include mp3/aac/xvid/etc. in multiverse but not libdvdcss?
[10:31] <moodog> ludi: no one in the US has offered to mirror it?
[10:31] <MrMazda> ludi: if u wait until evening US time the Euro mirrors are fast
[10:31] <mjr> FireRabbit, probably civil vs. criminal sanctions...
[10:31] <haakonn> FireRabbit:  i do suspect dmca/eucd
[10:31] <MrMazda> most there are asleep
[10:31] <munzir> hi sirs, what's the recommended way to install dapper? any doc? should I just download a nighty dvd for example and then keep it updated? what if the iso I downloaded turned not to install at all?
[10:31] <Sunn_T> Is it OK to use a VIA type Mainboard?
[10:32] <FireRabbit> why wouldnt the DMCA effect the MP3/AAC libraries in the same way then?
[10:32] <moodog> ludi: avoid the polish mirror and you should be fine.
[10:32] <haakonn> mp3/aac/etc don't "break protections" like decss does
[10:32] <Sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340  <---  I'm trying to mount the D partition, it's a ..logical partition of the same HD ..C: is
[10:32] <FireRabbit> haakonn, decryption vs. decoding?
[10:32] <Vander> man, I feel like crying. Okay, I'm getting started, I've went an unquoted everything in source.list, and I've apt-get the gcc files, -how do I "install" gcc on linux-?
[10:32] <haakonn> FireRabbit:  yes, xvid isn't made to protect against decoding, css is (yeah right, but you know what i mean)
[10:32] <Vander> or any programs in general
[10:32] <moodog> Vander: apt-get install gcc
[10:32] <haakonn> FireRabbit:  of course i'm just speculating as to the reason
[10:33] <Vander> okay, can you tell me what "apt-get" stands for please?
[10:33] <moodog> Vander: sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:33] <FireRabbit> haakonn, well it sounds like it makes sense
[10:33] <haakonn> but i know it's a bad situation, i wasn't able to get a dvd playing in ten minutes, and that's too hard :)
[10:33] <cmatheson> Vander: aptitude install build-essential
[10:33] <moodog> Vander: it's the name of the download and installtion tool for .deb files
[10:33] <FireRabbit> anyone know for sure if haakonn is correct?
[10:33] <Vander> Thank you!
[10:33] <Sturgeon> when i try to create a new shell with "screen", i see a message on the bottom which says "could not write /var/run/utmp: no such process". Any idea what this is?
[10:33] <garyc> moodog, OK it is in  - -  now how do I  install the latest flash plugin for opera
[10:34] <melodie> Vander: do 'man apt' in you console, an all that you don't know, 'man whatever' and you see what it stands for  :)
[10:34] <Epix> ok
[10:34] <Epix> im mad.
[10:35] <NCLife> anyone knows why when i type "sudo eject /dev/sda2" it says "unable to open `/dev/sda2'"?
[10:35] <moodog> garyc: dunno... try googling?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76236.html seems to discuss the topic
[10:35] <Epix> gparted does its thing, no errors until "Some changes were made to busy devices" comes up... THE DEVICE WAS NOT BUSY! Then, I click OK, everything reloads and voila, nothing has changed!
[10:35] <munzir> hi sirs, what's the recommended way to install dapper? any doc? should I just download a nighty dvd for example and then keep it updated? what if the iso I downloaded turned not to install at all?
[10:35] <datagrrr> Hi..i am newbie. How can i make an application (xmms in my situation) to play mp3s by default?
[10:35] <Sunn_T> I'm installing Ubuntu. I have 2 partitions. One is 19.5GB and the other is 500MB. What file system should I put on the 19.5GB one?
[10:35] <cmatheson> Epix: you need to reboot after you mess w/ your partition tables
[10:35] <Sturgeon> datagrrr: click on an mp3, and choose "opens with"
[10:36] <cmatheson> Sunn_T: /
[10:36] <garyc> moodog, hey I looked at my menus  applications and I don't see how to run opera
[10:36] <moodog> garyc: you follow the 2nd bit of the url I pointed you too earlier?
[10:36] <Sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340 <--- I'm trying to mount the D partition, it's a ..extended partition I think of the same HD ..C: is
[10:36] <datagrrr> sturgon: they are still opened by Totem.
[10:37] <Vander> okay, GCC is installed, what folder would I find installed programs under?
[10:37] <Sephran> what am I doing wrong, command wise?
[10:37] <moodog> Vander: try which gcc
[10:37] <Sturgeon> datagrrr: You went to an mp3 file, right clicked, and clicked on "opens with" and chose xmms?
[10:37] <Sunn_T> cmatheson - Should I make the 19.5 "Ext3 journaling file system" ?
[10:37] <Epix> cmatheson: it better work :P... /me reboots.
[10:37] <Vander> Ah!
[10:37] <Vander> thanks again
[10:37] <garyc> moodog, I found it.  back in a minute
[10:38] <Sunn_T> cmatheson - OR Should I make the 19.5 "physical volume for LVM"?
[10:38] <adrian__> i have a problem, i got installed no-ip DNS client in ubuntu, but it can't work good, i configured it and i saw how-to, everything is ok, but it doesn't wanna work yet
[10:38] <moodog> Vander: though you should be able to run most things by typing the command name at the prompt (or clicking on the icon in the menu)
[10:38] <datagrrr> Sturgeon: Yes, it opens with xmms but after that when i click mp3s in nautilus they re opened by Totem?
[10:38] <scenestar> good eveing room
[10:38] <adrian__> i have a problem, i got installed no-ip DNS client in ubuntu, but it can't work good, i configured it and i saw how-to, everything is ok, but it doesn't wanna work yet, anybody know about it?
[10:39] <scenestar> details?
[10:39] <sam_> hi there
[10:39] <apokryphos> hi sam_
[10:39] <Kindred> datagrrr, right click on file - properties - open with
[10:39] <danny> i have changed my login theme and splash screen but i notice tht behind the splash screen it still has a brown background, does anyone know how to change it?
[10:39] <Sturgeon> i told him that already
[10:39] <sam_> how can upgrade firefow with ubuntu
[10:39] <Sturgeon> he says it wont work
[10:39] <Vander> what is the command name, and is there a way to add icons to the menu?
[10:39] <ardchoille> danny: you can change that colour in  gdmsetup
[10:39] <adrian__> exit
[10:39] <danny> ardchoille, k thanks
[10:39] <moodog> Vander: gcc is the command name for gcc :)
[10:40] <ardchoille> danny: in the bottom right of the GTK+ Greeter tab
[10:40] <Vander> thought so
[10:40] <Vander> but it doesn't work >.>
[10:40] <Sturgeon> datagrrr: notice i didn't say "open with" but "opens with"
[10:40] <moodog> Vander: what are you trying to get it to do?
[10:40] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:40] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:40] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:40] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:40] <scenestar> fuck you sam_
[10:41] <Vander> I am trying to get it to run, as if I expect it to pop up in a window of some sort, as if I was running Windows -.-
[10:41] <ludi> what's the advantage of the ubuntu DVD compared to the CD?
[10:41] <Epix> !tell sam_ about french
[10:41] <datagrrr> Oh :) right...
[10:41] <danny> ardchoille, yep sorted thanks
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <Epix> aw
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <Vander> but of course, that will never happen, because that's not the way it works, is it? I'm just that much of a newb.
[10:41] <datagrrr> sturgeon you re right
[10:41] <Epix> !op
[10:41] <ardchoille> danny: yw
[10:41] <ubotu> Epix: I give up, what is it?
[10:41] <scenestar> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:41] <moodog> ludi: you seem to be able to burn the DVD and not the CD
[10:41] <Epix> !ops
[10:41] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <sam_> how tu upgrade firefox
[10:41] <scenestar> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:41] <scenestar> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:41] <ludi> moodog: I don't have any blank CDs
[10:41] <melodie> sam_ kick off  !
[10:41] <odat> hey anyone know how i can create an image from a game cd
[10:42] <Sturgeon> sam_: sorry, what's your question again?
[10:42] <Sturgeon> :)
[10:42] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone know of an easy way to set up an FTP server?
[10:42] <dan__> anyone help with laptop issues?
[10:42] <rev> how do I add support for my silicon sata controller? I loaded sata_sil but I don't get any devices
[10:42] <skon> Belboz99: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:42] <bjv> does ubuntu have known problems with Sony Viaos?
[10:42] <ardchoille> Sturgeon: LOL
[10:42] <moodog> ludi: I've never used the DVD so couldn't say.  don't have a DVDR for a start.
[10:42] <pinkisntwell> I installed xfce and now I can't change the keyboard language
[10:42] <scenestar> dude
[10:42] <Kindred> ludi I was in the same situation, http://www.imgburn.com/ - if you are in win this program can burn a cd image to dvd and it will work fine
[10:42] <scenestar> DO NOT USE PROFTPD
[10:42] <scenestar> ITS HORRIBLE
[10:43] <Epix> cmatheson: im logging in...
[10:43] <melodie> scenestar, do not scream plse  :)
[10:43] <s1gnAl> Im trying to install Freenx, anyone know about seveas, specifically how do I add the gpg key for the mirrors?
[10:43] <bjv> my friend reported back to me that after it finished with the blue text livecd setup the screen just sat blank
[10:43] <HymnToLife> scenestar > do not use caps
[10:43] <HymnToLife> it's horrible
[10:43] <skon> Belboz99: sudo apt-get install ftpd
[10:43] <ludi> Kindred: Don't own windows, thanks though
[10:43] <skon> scenestar: constructive comments please
[10:43] <bjv> so i told him to try his onboard instead of agp card, and still no X just black screen
[10:44] <rev> !sata
[10:44] <ubotu> rev: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:44] <Epix> cmatheson: fook. no resize...
[10:44] <melodie> s1gnAl, it's written somewhere on the Ubuntu website, or in gpg man as well  :)
[10:44] <pinkisntwell> I installed xfce and now I can't change the keyboard language, any help guys?
[10:44] <melodie> I have to consult each time I need, or you can do it in Synaptic too, easily
[10:44] <zenlunatic> my sound doesn't work in gxine
[10:45] <odat>  hey anyone know how i can create an image from a game cd
[10:45] <cmatheson> Epix: just boot off the install cd and use parted from the command-line probably (or you could just do it now... 'umount -o remount,ro / && parted /dev/whatever'
[10:45] <melodie> Epix: I did a great resizing lately, what's your pb ?
[10:46] <Remmy> Hi all. I compiled my own kernel, but at boot time it panicks with a "unable to mount root fs on unknown block"  error. The root drive is ext3, and support for that is compiled as a module. Is that why I get the panic, or is something else amiss?
[10:46] <Epix> melodie: pb?
[10:46] <melodie> problem
[10:46] <cmatheson> Remmy: you can't compile in support as a module for your root file-system type unless you use an in initrd image
[10:46] <trappist> Remmy: that's why.  you either need an initrd with ext3 or you need to compile it in
[10:46] <melodie> so ?
[10:47] <sephran> sudo mount -t vfat  /dev/hda2 /mnt/windisk2     isnt working,   ..I have mounted the C drive of windows, now I want to do the D drive, wich is a partition of the main HD. What am I doing wrong?
[10:47] <Epix> cmatheson: i tried qtparted, no dice. and parted would not load up my device.
[10:47] <ardchoille> odat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /path/to/source/dir
[10:47] <Remmy> trappist: So, if I change from module to "in kernel", I might get lucky?
[10:47] <cmatheson> Epix: why won't parted load up your device?
[10:47] <moodog> Remmy: should do
[10:47] <melodie> Epix: I also tried Qtparted, and with it I gave up  :)
[10:47] <trappist> Remmy: I'd put it more like "it will work"
[10:47] <Remmy> cmatheson: I dunno if the make-kpkg takes care of the initrd?
[10:47] <Epix> cmatheson: grr, i forget the error.
[10:47] <Vander> how do I enter Linux with just the command prompt, not the gui?
[10:47] <Zambba> sephran: Have you did mkdir /mnt/windisk2 ?
[10:47] <cmatheson> RedGhost: only if you do 'make-kpkg --initrd'
[10:47] <melodie> from any support I found it in
[10:47] <sephran> zambba: yes
[10:47] <trappist> cmatheson: THAT'S how you do it!
[10:48] <trappist> cmatheson: I've been wondering that since my first day on ubuntu
[10:48] <cmatheson> trappist: hehe
[10:48] <Remmy> trappist: Well... given my luck the past week with booting this machine, I've given up on such definite statements :)
[10:48] <melodie> Epix, do you want to prepare that quietly ?
[10:48] <cmatheson> Epix: maybe you should try it again?
[10:48] <Remmy> Anyways, thanks guys, I'll give it a shot :)
[10:48] <trappist> Remmy: well, by "it will work" I mean "your kernel will be able to mount your root filesystem"
[10:48] <garyc> moodog, I did all the steps and now I have a opera icon in apps under internet  --  it does nothing
[10:49] <trappist> garyc: run 'opera' from the command line and see what you get
[10:49] <Remmy> trappist: I hope so. So far I've been unable to and boot my system and use my CPU's second core, but we'll get there in the end :)
[10:49] <garyc> trappist, how
[10:49] <s1gnAl> anyone here using freenx?
[10:49] <trappist> garyc: open a terminal window, type 'opera' and hit enter
[10:49] <Theflame_differe> cDUTO
[10:50] <Theflame_differe> maledetto portatile
[10:50] <Theflame_differe> remix
[10:50] <Epix> cmatheson: ill reboot onto live. one sec
[10:50] <Theflame_differe> scusa
[10:50] <moodog> garyc:  Applications>Accessories>Terminal then type opera
[10:50] <sephran> additional info zambba http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340
[10:51] <cmatheson> Epix: you don't even need to reboot if you mount it read-only
[10:51] <garyc> trappist, there are two lines of error   may i paste here
[10:51] <Epix> cmatheson: no, ill reboot.
[10:51] <ludi> Eulex: I get an "ERROR Problem connecting to tracker - (104, 'Connection reset by peer')
[10:51] <cmatheson> Epix: ok
[10:51] <ludi> Eulex: when trying to dload ubuntu torrent
[10:51] <cmatheson> ludi: sounds like no one is seeding your torrent
[10:51] <Stork> how can i turn a folder into an archive?
[10:52] <garyc> moodog, there are two lines of error   may i paste here
[10:52] <cmatheson> Stork: a tarball? tar zcvf foo.tar.gz foldername/
[10:52] <moodog> garyc: go ahead
[10:52] <garyc> moodog, ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:52] <garyc> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:53] <odat> ardchoille, still there?
[10:53] <gerardo_> hello
[10:53] <ludi> has anyone tried installing with the dapper CD?
[10:54] <jvai> hey all
[10:54] <garyc> moodog, is there a way to set up a repository so synaptic can install the package
[10:54] <bjv> i dont think ubuntu supports my friends LCD monitor
[10:54] <bjv> i think it's a dell
[10:54] <bjv> is this common?
[10:54] <bjv> cause it is really lame. :\
[10:54] <binarydigit> what kind of monitor
[10:54] <Epix> cmatheson: ok, it is saying that the BIOS gemoetry might have been detected incorreectly
[10:55] <binarydigit> rather the model
[10:55] <molinero> Hello to all, ubuntu users!
[10:55] <haakonn> greetings
[10:55] <bjv> he's checking, i didnt think you needed drivers for a monitor
[10:55] <bjv> even lcd
[10:55] <Epix> cmatheson: you around still?
[10:56] <Epix> I need a parted resize walkthru :P
[10:56] <bjv> he doesnt see a model number on it, though it is a dell
[10:56] <bjv> probably on the back in tiny text
[10:57] <AIV> good day everyone
[10:57] <garyc> moodog, do you know what the error is
[10:58] <bjv> ive heard that windows XP isnt able to drive some dell LCDs during install, but he could see the blue LiveCD options
[10:58] <bjv> just not when it loaded X
[10:58] <Dr_Acemaster> what letter denotes 12hr in the time stamp?
[10:58] <Dr_Acemaster> for xchat sorry
[10:59] <binarydigit> bjv: so X won't load or what?
[10:59] <Dr_Acemaster> I thought it was lower case L
[10:59] <bjv> he says it's just a black screen when it goes to startx
[10:59] <bjv> i told him to try resizing the res with altctr-
[10:59] <bjv> no dice, :\
[10:59] <binarydigit> have him check the log file
[10:59] <binarydigit> for any errors
[11:00] <bjv> well, hes looking for his old sony restore CD for windows
[11:00] <bjv> and im off to work :P
[11:00] <bjv> perhaps someday it will be fixed and linuxed up
[11:01] <jazwec> hi
[11:01] <molinero> Somebody that expert in GIMP?
[11:01] <Epix> someone here want to walk me through how to resize a partition with parted? Im kinda clueless...
[11:01] <zenlunatic> can someone help me get sound working in gxine?
[11:02] <AIV> I am building a machine with an ASUS  K8N Mobo
[11:02] <hazmat> are there any scripts for runlevel management of the scripts in rc.* directories on ubuntu?
[11:02] <jazwec> please could anybody help me? i have breezy and i edited my sources.list bad..could anybody post me that originall repositories?
[11:02] <binarydigit> Epix: get gparted
[11:02] <AIV> it has onboard RAID, but did not detect it, it detected 2 seperate drives
[11:02] <Epix> binarydigit: gparted failed me.
[11:02] <binarydigit> how so
[11:02] <AIV> where can I find info?  I want to do RAID 1
[11:02] <AIV> with 2 SATA drives
[11:02] <ardchoille> jazwec: For Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:02] <AIV> yes, Ubuntu
[11:03] <jazwec> ardchoille yes..
[11:03] <hazmat> jazwec, http://paste.plone.org/1635
[11:03] <AIV> oh, not me, sorry
[11:03] <molinero> Somebody that expert in GIMP?
[11:03] <jazwec> hazmat thanks alot
[11:03] <hazmat> np
[11:03] <binarydigit> molinero: #gimp
[11:03] <molinero> binarydigit ok, thanks
[11:03] <apokryphos> you'll have better luck in their own IRC server; irc.gimp.net
[11:03] <Epix> nobody had a clue how to use parted? :P
[11:04] <garyc> moodog, I'm back  --  opera is still not working
[11:04] <datagrrr> zenlunatic: i cant get audio(mp3)  with gxine too.. but xmms worked
[11:04] <binarydigit> Epix: you didnt say how gparted failed you
[11:04] <ardchoille> jazwec: Here is my sources.list from the initial install of 5.10: http://pastebin.com/483410
[11:04] <AIV> has anyonehere done RAID 0 with ubuntu 5.10?
[11:04] <moodog> garyc: use firefox?  it works out of the box
[11:04] <sephran> hmm
[11:04] <garyc> moodog, I guess your right
[11:04] <moodog> garyc: can't really help you any further... other than suggesting you try installing the statically linked version
[11:05] <jazwec> ardchoille thanks alot..btw..dont you know how can i install skype? when i download that deb package from skype.com it says i have some missing files
[11:05] <cmatheson> jazwec: you're probably missing some stuff it depends on, install the packages it wants
[11:05] <apokryphos> !tell jazwec about skype
[11:05] <garyc> moodog, how do I do that  someone said put in the static version
[11:05] <Epix> binarydigit: never mind, i ran it and it didnt work. im not sure if its the gui or parted
[11:06] <ardchoille> jazwec: I don't know, I haven't ever used skype
[11:06] <binarydigit> Epix: any error messages?
[11:06] <ardchoille> apokryphos: thanks :)
[11:06] <Epix> binarydigit: does this look good? resize 3 1435.496 20000.000
[11:06] <Epix> binarydigit: nope.
[11:06] <binarydigit> Epix: i have no idea what that means
[11:06] <xiaogil> Mysql doesn't work, is the package broken on ubuntu ?
[11:06] <Epix> does that parted command look good to anyone?
[11:07] <AIV> does anyone know how I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:07] <Epix> AIV: wine
[11:07] <skon> AIV: ......why?
[11:07] <ardchoille> AIV: you've got to be kidding
[11:07] <Epix> skon: ardchoille: well, active X is needed for some wine programs...
[11:08] <AIV> I was just checking to see if I was visible, I figured that would get me some attention
[11:08] <Epix> wineable programs*
[11:08] <rev> what does the module dm_mod do?
[11:08] <ardchoille> AIV: ROFL!
[11:08] <skon> lol
[11:08] <datagrrr> hey, when i write "google.com" to firefox it opens google.com.tr and then bbc.com? might it be a spyware? is there a spyware?
[11:08] <Epix> anyone here know parted? does resize 3 1435.496 20000.000 look good?
[11:08] <Linux_whore> AIV: Internet Explorer will bring the viruses to Linux
[11:08] <kris_> Can somebody suggest a way to try 9999 possible inputs to a POST from on a web page and see which one grants access to a different page?  I am stuck with ideas?
[11:08] <Linux_whore> AIV: and so will wine
[11:09] <Amaranth> Linux_whore: That's not true.
[11:09] <Epix> Linux_whore: did you see the article on the guy who was trying to wine some viruses? it doesnt work.
[11:09] <Amaranth> Linux_whore: And change your nick, please.
[11:09] <trappist> is there any more info on where the word 'ubuntu' comes from? saying it's african is sort of like saying it's asian.
[11:09] <Epix> omg.
[11:09] <moodog> garyc: check the link I gave you earlier (which btw ws the 2nd or 3rd google hit for "ubuntu opera"
[11:09] <Sturgeon> trappist: go to about ubuntu
[11:09] <ElitePete> you cant port a virus to an operaying system that is built to refuse it
[11:09] <Sturgeon> oh
[11:09] <Gomez_> hello again
[11:09] <Amaranth> kris_: We won't help you break into a website.
[11:10] <Gomez_> how can I install a java program in ubuntu?
[11:10] <Linux_whore> garyc: is your last name carpenter?
[11:10] <Amaranth> !javadeb
[11:10] <Epix> parted doesnt support reiserfs! what the heck? why does it have to support that filesystem?
[11:10] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[11:10] <jazwec> cmatheson yes thats what i wanted to do
[11:10] <khermans> Can somebody suggest a way to try 9999 possible inputs to a POST from on a web page and see which one grants access to a different page?  I am stuck with ideas!
[11:10] <Amaranth> khermans: No.
[11:10] <jazwec> cmatheson but i cant because i dont have repositories for them
[11:10] <Linux_whore> garyc: is your linux box an ftp server?
[11:10] <Amaranth> khermans: We don't help you break into a website.
[11:10] <khermans> Amaranth, why not?
[11:10] <remote_> hello everyone
[11:10] <khermans> Amaranth, thats not breaking -- its just convenience
[11:10] <Linux_whore> garyc: do you live in an apartment in downtown san antonio?
[11:11] <john_> HI everyone, I have an issue.....I used to use itunes on my xp machine which has not been replaced with ubuntu. I want to be able to access all my itunes files the same way I can access them using itunes from a windows share on the network using ubuntu. Anyone know what software is best, every time I do a scan for music files with software such as Amarok etc they never find the mp3/aac/mp4 files in my itunes folders. I have mounted the wi
[11:11] <john_> ndows share in media using fstab and it works fine and I can play individual files from there but I want all files added to a library and sorted by tags into artist, album, genre etc etc. Can anyone help? Sorry for such a big text.
[11:11] <khermans> Amaranth, it has nothing to do with getting unauthorized access
[11:11] <trappist> Sturgeon: it says 'african'.  that's not very specific.  there's no such language.
[11:11] <datagrrr> yeah :)
[11:11] <Linux_whore> garyc: use the user documents on ubuntu.com to install opera
[11:11] <remote_> has anyone in here built dvdstyler from source? I get it to compile fine, but when I try to run it, it says it can't find libsvg.so.0 - a symlink in /usr/local/lib that points to libsvg.so.0.0.0
[11:11] <ccc_> anyone know where i can find libdha?
[11:11] <Amaranth> Linux_whore: Please change your nick.
[11:11] <Linux_whore> and find dependencies
[11:12] <remote_> what is my freaking problem?
[11:12] <Gomez_> I dont want to install java I want to install a java program
[11:12] <Sturgeon> trappist: yeah, i remember i thought that when i saw it
[11:12] <Gomez_> freedom.jar
[11:12] <Sturgeon> in fact it's a bit offensive i think
[11:12] <moodog> Linux_whore: we have been thought that already... having some problems post that
[11:12] <in54no> Hi, why others users cant play a sound in xmms in ubuntu!?
[11:12] <Epix> what the hell
[11:12] <Epix> why does parted not support reiser?
[11:12] <trappist> Sturgeon: found it.  it's Nguni
[11:13] <Sturgeon> ok
[11:13] <AIV> When a hardware raid is configured on a machine Im going to install Ubuntu on it shows the drives during the install as sda and sdb, should I be configuring software raid or should it be recognizing them as a single drive?
[11:13] <Amaranth> Epix: Because reiserfs eats babies.
[11:13] <Amaranth> Epix: It's not worth the hassle.
[11:13] <datagrrr> in54no: but i play altough i am very new
[11:13] <remote_> can anyone help me with my 'cannot open shared object. No such file or directory.' problem?
[11:14] <Epix> Amaranth: you know, you fail to be of any help.
[11:14] <Gomez_> how to install a .jar file
[11:14] <in54no> datagrrr,  xmms show a error of soundcard
[11:14] <datagrrr> in54no: well that is a driver problem then i think
[11:14] <ElitePete> in54no, go to preferences make sure you have alsa selected
[11:15] <ElitePete> in54no, if that doesn't work try oss
[11:15] <Gomez_> can someone confirm he receives what I'm saying?
[11:15] <in54no> datagrrr, i have, because root play
[11:15] <ElitePete> Gomez_, affirmative
[11:15] <Gomez_> thanks
[11:16] <remote_> Can anyone help me get DVDStyler to start?
[11:16] <Gomez_> so how can I install a .jar file (Your Freedom client www.your-freedom.net) on ubuntu
[11:16] <in54no> datagrrr, maybe problem of permission no /dev/dsp?
[11:17] <remote_> gomez_, the jar needs to be exacutable, then java -jar jarfilename.jar
[11:17] <navarone> Gomez you don't install a .jsr file...you run it
[11:17] <navarone> jar*
[11:17] <datagrrr> in54no: i dont think so..
[11:17] <Gomez_> how can I make it executable, I'm sorry I'm new to linux
[11:17] <john_> HI everyone, I have an issue.....I used to use itunes on my xp machine which has not been replaced with ubuntu. I want to be able to access all my itunes files the same way I can access them using itunes from a windows share on the network using ubuntu. Anyone know what software is best, every time I do a scan for music files with software such as Amarok etc they never find the mp3/aac/mp4 files in my itunes folders. I have mounted the wi
[11:17] <john_> john_ ndows share in media using fstab and it works fine and I can play individual files from there but I want all files added to a library and sorted by tags into artist, album, genre etc etc. Can anyone help? Sorry for such a big text
[11:17] <remote_> Gomez_, if you downloaded it, it proably already sis
[11:18] <datagrrr> in54no: but it may be.. i dunno.. its my 3rd day :)
[11:18] <datagrrr> it maybe
[11:18] <Gomez_> it opens in Archive Manager
[11:18] <Gomez_> the jar file
[11:18] <Gomez_> when I try to run it
[11:18] <in54no> datagrrr, hehe ok :D but thanks
[11:18] <ardchoille> john_: can you please post that excricatingly long question to pastebin?
[11:18] <binarydigit> Gomez_: try typing java blah.jar
[11:19] <navarone> Gomez_, use terminal...go to directory that has file and type java -jar <name>.jar
[11:19] <Gomez_> gets me a bunch of error messages
[11:19] <navarone> Gomez_, do you have java installed?
[11:19] <Gomez_> exception in "main" cannot load AWT toolkit
[11:19] <Gomez_> and suck
[11:20] <Gomez_> dont know navarone, did the default ubuntu install
[11:20] <Gomez_> *suck=such
[11:20] <odat> anyone know of a way to make an image from a game cd?
[11:21] <cmatheson> odat: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[11:21] <datagrrr> is there an exploit or spyware for firefox which will direct me to another web site?? ex: when i write google.com.tr it directs me to bbc.com?
[11:21] <keyhack> Does anyone know much about Ubuntu's usplash?
[11:21] <navarone> gomez you need to install java...use synaptic to install Blackdown java...use Edit/Search to find it...or use Add Applications/Internet/More Programs and it is there. will ask to enable a repo first
[11:21] <sethbc> i know that lighttpd has an RFI out in ubuntu, but does anyone know if there are packages in UBuntu?
[11:21] <Gomez_> ok thanks navarone
[11:21] <danny> keyhack, wot do you exactly want to know about it
[11:21] <Vander> what's the root login+password again?
[11:21] <keyhack> danny: Is it bootsplash? (www.bootsplash.org)
[11:22] <kcodenamet> ls
[11:22] <keyhack> danny: Want to know how I can change it around
[11:22] <danny> keyhack, for wot exactly
[11:22] <keyhack> just want a logo, and a progress bar
[11:22] <ardchoille> Vander: there isn't one. The root account is disabled
[11:22] <danny> have u got gnome-art downloaded
[11:23] <Vander> ... oh. okay then. so the only account we have is the one that we took at the beginning (superuser)?
[11:23] <pashaw> Vander,   use your user accounts  then sudo  for admin tasks
[11:23] <odat> cmatheson, ?
[11:23] <danny> keyhack, have you downloaded gnome-art
[11:23] <Vander> thank you very much!
[11:23] <windowsrefund> apt-get was fine but now it's asking me to insert a cdrom
[11:23] <keyhack> danny: No, I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment
[11:23] <ardchoille> Vander: yes, you can do sudo to do admin tasks with that account
[11:23] <windowsrefund> all of a sudden
[11:23] <sephran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340   <----  what am I doing wrong?  I'm trying to load the second partition of the HD
[11:23] <cmatheson> odat: that would get you an image of the cd on your hard-drive
[11:23] <danny> keyhack, or ite well im new to linux it self i dont no, i coulda help if it was for ubuntu as i was told earlier
[11:24] <lucasvo> windowsrefund: if you have internet connection: put a # before the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list~
[11:24] <lucasvo> windowsrefund: if you have internet connection: put a # before the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <windowsrefund> will do
[11:24] <odat> cmatheson, just that command?
[11:24] <garyc> Linux_whore, how do you open a seperate window
[11:24] <windowsrefund> lucasvo, strange how that line appeared out of nowhere
[11:24] <keyhack> danny: Well, I can make the PNG's myself, I'm just wondering what online resource is best about customizing the splash around, and if it was anything like bootsplash
[11:24] <ardchoille> odat: I gave you a command to do that
[11:24] <windowsrefund> anyway, fixed :)
[11:24] <binarydigit> sephran: did you run dmesg to see what it said
[11:24] <navarone> sephran,  are you sure hda2 is your windows partiton?
[11:24] <cmatheson> odat: try it
[11:24] <garyc> Linux_whore, how do you open a seperate window
[11:24] <sephran> hda1 is C: ..hda2 is D:
[11:25] <tsw> sephran: I bet its hda5
[11:25] <Linux_whore> garyc: look at the bottom. i will open it up
[11:25] <odat> cmatheson, not doing anything
[11:25] <lucasvo> windowsrefund: it is normal, the installation needs it to download packages from the install CD
[11:25] <keyhack> like, I don't want it to be verbose at all, just a logo, and a status bar, no text
[11:25] <datagrrr> what if i remove ubuntu-desktop app?? xmms' recommended installation removes it because??
[11:25] <lucasvo> windowsrefund: you could also just put in the cd
[11:25] <cmatheson> odat: it is if you typed it in right
[11:25] <garyc> Linux_whore, how do you open a seperate window
[11:25] <garyc> Linux_whore, how do you open a seperate window
[11:25] <garyc> Linux_whore, how do you open a seperate window
[11:25] <odat> ardchoille, didn't work
[11:25] <Linux_whore> right click my name and open dialog box
[11:25] <cmatheson> hey garyc, shut up
[11:25] <binarydigit> sephran: run sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:26] <HymnToLife> garyc > don't flood
[11:26] <Linux_whore> lol
[11:26] <ardchoille> odat: then you didn't do it right
[11:26] <odat> cmatheson, this isn't getting by the copy protection
[11:26] <odat> ardchoille, what was it again
[11:26] <sephran> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:26] <sephran> /dev/hda1   *           1        1275    10241406    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[11:26] <sephran> /dev/hda2            1276        4981    29768445    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[11:26] <sephran> /dev/hda5            1276        4981    29768413+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:26] <ardchoille> odat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /path/to/source/dir
[11:26] <cmatheson> odat: it's copying the freaking cd, it has absolutely nothing to do w/ copy protection
[11:27] <Linux_whore> garyc: i am going to try to install opera again and if i get an error i will try to fix it
[11:27] <tsw> sephran: hda2 is extended and hda5 is your D partition
[11:27] <odat> ardchoille, and if i'm copying a cd whats the path i want to use
[11:27] <odat> cmatheson, then why isn't the file getting any bigger than 767 kb
[11:27] <ardchoille> odat: what is the path to your CD?
[11:27] <odat> 676 i mean
[11:27] <pashaw> sephran,  please use pastebin next time
[11:28] <sephran> I did
[11:28] <cmatheson> sephran: you just dumped it in the channel
[11:28] <ara> i just installed Java but i still have difficulty viewing websites that require java
[11:28] <odat> hdc i believe
[11:28] <cmatheson> ara: how did you install java?
[11:28] <sephran> yerrr, sorry..must have forgotten I had new data in clip board
[11:28] <navarone> ara do yuo have java and javascript enabled in browser(s)?
[11:29] <ara> no
[11:29] <ara> not yet
[11:29] <Linux_whore> garyc: when i downloaded opera, i checked off a box for a file that looked said opera-version.tar.gz and i installed opera from source code that is when i got the dependencies
[11:29] <odat> cmatheson, this is what i got "dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[11:29] <odat> "
[11:29] <binarydigit> ara: so what do you think could be the problem then if you did not enable java in the browser
[11:30] <pashaw> !tell Linux_whore about opera
[11:30] <datagrrr> What if i remove ubuntu-desktop app?? xmms' recommended installation removes it?
[11:30] <cmatheson> odat: is /dev/cdrom the right device?  are you running the command w/ the proper permissions?
[11:30] <kcodenamet> linux_whore why use opera?
[11:30] <ardchoille> odat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /dev/cdrom
[11:30] <ardchoille> odat: is there a disk in /dev/cdrom ?
[11:30] <cmatheson> datagrrr: that's fine, it's a dummy package
[11:31] <ara> they are enable
[11:31] <cowbud> datagrrr ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that covers many packages so removing it won't really remove anything from your system but it may come about that ubuntu-package is updated to contain more packages for the ubuntu experience that you will eventually miss out on..
[11:31] <garyc> Linux_whore, I thought we were going to talk in the other window
[11:31] <Linux_whore> garyc: i am not getting any of your messages in the other window
[11:31] <ardchoille> Linux_whore: garyc may not be identified to services
[11:31] <ElitePete> can anyone please help me with, samba i have 2 computers both with samba enabled, both with samba ports opened in firestarter, but i cannot find the shared folders?
[11:32] <garyc> Linux_whore, that is because we are here not there
[11:32] <ara> binarydigit , they are enable
[11:32] <pashaw> !tell ElitePete about samba
[11:32] <binarydigit> ara: did you install the plugin into the plugins directory
[11:33] <odat> ardchoille, that gave me a 350 kb file
[11:33] <calamari> hi
[11:33] <ara> binarydigit, no i just did a normal installation
[11:33] <Linux_whore> garyc: type this into the chat "/msg nickserv register yourpassword"
[11:33] <calamari> is there a list somewhere of what packages are installed on the live cd?
[11:33] <navarone> garyc,  you need to have nick registered in order to send priv messages
[11:33] <Linux_whore> then type "/msg nickserv identify yourpassword"
[11:34] <binarydigit> ara: try installing automatix, should make getting java enabled easy
[11:34] <ElitePete> pashaw, i can't see the fodler i shared on the other pc from this one, but i can see my own shared folders?
[11:34] <Sturgeon> Will something crash if i delete /var/run/utmp?
[11:34] <pashaw> calamari, the download area should have a .list  you can get
[11:34] <garyc> where is the sources.list file located
[11:34] <da9000> hi
[11:34] <ara> binarydigit, what's automatix??????
[11:34] <pashaw> calamari,   plus you can run   dpkg -l  to view them while liveCD is running
[11:34] <Seveas> !automarix
[11:34] <ubotu> Seveas: I give up, what is it?
[11:34] <Seveas> !automatix
[11:34] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[11:34] <binarydigit> !automatix
[11:34] <ardchoille> garyc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:34] <Seveas> it's crap
[11:35] <binarydigit> bah
[11:35] <Seveas> binarydigit, NEVER EVER advise automatix
[11:35] <Seveas> it's a piece of shit
[11:35] <garyc> ardchoille, thankyou
[11:35] <binarydigit> alrighty then
[11:35] <pashaw> ElitePete,   did you follow the wiki?    what part are you stuck at
[11:35] <ardchoille> garyc: yw :)
[11:35] <robertj> heya all, how can I tell whether a given directory is a mount point?
[11:35] <da9000> anybody here familiar with licenses, EULA's and basic M$ legaleze?  I want a little input in one of the M$ EULA sections (for their Empower package). I'm a Linux guy, so I don't know much, and was wondering if anyone has some more experience.
[11:35] <SuperLag> johnm: fancy meeting you here, big boy. :)
[11:35] <sephran> so I did sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2     I see the folder in file system...but it says I dont have access to it
[11:35] <ElitePete> pashaw, i cant see the folders i have shared on my other machine
[11:35] <ara> binarydigit, should i reboot ?
[11:36] <odat> in other words it there any clonecd for linux
[11:36] <odat> sheesh
[11:36] <binarydigit> ara no
[11:36] <calamari> pashaw: just trying to see what unmet dependencies qtparted will have on the live cd :)
[11:36] <binarydigit> !java
[11:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:36] <kalin> i didn't manage to play .wma files
[11:36] <pashaw> calamari,   unmet?   you getting some error?
[11:37] <calamari> pashaw: no.. just trying to avoid rebooting 10x :)
[11:37] <flodine> a guys where do i install a TTF font?
[11:37] <binarydigit> ara , check out that java link
[11:37] <Seveas> flodine, ~/.fonts/
[11:37] <Linux_whore> garyc are these the errors you are getting? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser#head-01f53326c2ead5334c029818c6b4e99af8561996
[11:37] <kalin> i'm close to go back to WINDOWS...
[11:37] <ara> ok
[11:38] <garyc> Linux_whore, no  go to the other window
[11:38] <kalin> =::(
[11:38] <calamari> kalin: I'm close to deleting windows and enlarging my ubuntu partition.. guess everyone's different :)
[11:38] <kalin> =::(
[11:38] <Guri_slacK> how i instal xfce4 in ubunyu
[11:38] <janoli> kalin, that's common
[11:38] <Guri_slacK> ?
[11:38] <janoli> you'll be back soon
[11:38] <navarone> calamari I already halved my windows partition
[11:38] <Seveas> Linux_whore, please change yout nickname to something less obnoxious
[11:38] <ardchoille> calamari: LOL
[11:38] <Seveas> Guri_slacK, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <kalin> WELL I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ME OLDER WITH SO MUCH PROBLEMS WITH LINUX
[11:39] <infocentro> alguna chik hi-tech
[11:39] <trappist> Seveas: he's been ignoring that request since he's been here
[11:39] <navarone> kalin hit your caplock key to get rid or the caps plz
[11:39] <paxmaster> can someone explain me how to use tar with exclude
[11:39] <calamari> navarone: did it go smoothly?  anything I should know?
[11:39] <Guri_slacK> how i install xfce4 in ubuntun?
[11:39] <ElitePete> pashaw, it says in computer i will see a network button but i dont
[11:39] <Guri_slacK> Seveas, tks
[11:40] <MarcN> Guri_slacK: sudo  apt-get install xfce4
[11:40] <paxmaster> i try this but no luck  tar - --exclude=*mp3 -gcvzf file.tar.gz *
[11:40] <nalioth> Guri_slacK: install xubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <Linux_whore> garyc, i am in the other chat window. this is the message i get: * Offering DCC CHAT to garyc. look what this guy said: ardchoille Linux_whore: garyc may not be identified to services
[11:40] <Kovecses> xubuntu-desktop would be better
[11:40] <paxmaster> i read the man
[11:40] <Linux_whore> garyc, thats why i told you to identify
[11:40] <Seveas> Linux_whore, change your nickname to something less obnoxious or leave
[11:41] <Guri_slacK> tks
[11:41] <pashaw> ElitePete,   im looking at the wiki     im used to manually editing samba
[11:41] <jvai> the wifi sux in tryst
[11:41] <ElitePete> pashaw, i dont have the windows networkign section in network settings what do i do?
[11:41] <polpak> ElitePete, the problem is you have firestarter running
[11:41] <ElitePete> polpak, i have the ports opended
[11:41] <navarone> calamari...ummm...when I resized grub was annoyed with me...I think the partition tables were adjusted and I had an error when trying to boot ubuntu afterwards. Went to windows and fiddled with Disk management but accidently made wrong partiton active(boot) so I got error laoding os after rebooting. had to use Ranish to reset boot and then use install cd to mnt ubuntu partition and reinstall grub
[11:41] <Guri_slacK> algum brasileiro?
[11:41] <nalioth> !br
[11:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[11:41] <Seveas> !br
[11:42] <polpak> ElitePete, the ports are random
[11:42] <janoli> !ar
[11:42] <ubotu> I don't know, janoli
[11:42] <ElitePete> polpak, ? i added the SMB samba rule
[11:42] <janoli> !help
[11:42] <polpak> ElitePete, try turning off the firewall temporaraly and see if you can browse
[11:42] <Guri_slacK> sorry
[11:42] <ElitePete> polpak, ok
[11:43] <kalin> i'm tired of charging packages
[11:43] <navarone> calamari...gparted is quite good...but it seems you can only take up unallocated space if it is to the right of the partition you want to enlarge...just so you know
[11:43] <ElitePete> polpak, other pc still doesnt show up
[11:43] <polpak> ElitePete, and you specifically set the firewall open?
[11:43] <ElitePete> polpak, yea
[11:43] <Spacejock> hola
[11:43] <mwe> where do I set stuff like LC_COLLATE system wide? /etc/environment?
[11:43] <navarone> "to the right" in the [artition display I mean
[11:43] <Spacejock> hi
[11:43] <kalin> i think i'm getting old and wasting so much time with so much packages
[11:44] <Seveas> mwe, yup
[11:44] <mwe> Seveas: great
[11:44] <Seveas> !tell kalin about attitude
[11:44] <kalin> =::(
[11:44] <Spacejock> i must say (sincerely)...ubuntu is wow
[11:44] <kalin> =::(
[11:44] <calamari> navarone: ok.. so I'll need to delete my swap partition and remake it :)   thanks :)
[11:44] <polpak> ElitePete, can you pastebin the output of sudo iptables -L
[11:44] <sephran> sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2  has been done succesfully, but the folder windisk 2 itself, has a red X in the corner of it. Clicking it gives me the message that I dont have the permission neccesairy to view the contents of windisk2
[11:44] <sephran>  sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisksec
[11:44] <ElitePete> polpak, ok
[11:44] <Spacejock> im a red-hat favour...and the same with fedora core
[11:44] <kalin> that sets me on bad mood =(
[11:44] <sephran> gah! ignore the second sudo mount command
[11:45] <ElitePete> polpak, can i just whisper you it
[11:45] <Guri_slacK> god many archives
[11:45] <polpak> ElitePete, ok
[11:45] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:45] <kalin> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:45] <Spacejock> but....this two distros had some fails (overall in new releases)
[11:45] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source               destination
[11:45] <ElitePete> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[11:45] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source               destination
[11:45] <ElitePete> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[11:45] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source
[11:45] <navarone> calamari...the drive I was resizing was not my ubuntu drive...I have windows and a shared Partition (fat32) on primary drive...secondary had ubuntu and a few windows partitions for storage
[11:45] <Spacejock> im very happy with ubuntu
[11:45] <ardchoille> kalin: please, change your attitude or you may find yourself banned from the channel. Maybe it would help to go and take a break.. maybe get some fresh air.
[11:45] <polpak> hrm
[11:45] <polpak> Can you unban him?
[11:45] <polpak> was a mistake
[11:45] <Spacejock> also...my conceptronic usb wan run very well
[11:45] <Spacejock> c54ru
[11:46] <nalioth> polpak: unban who?
[11:46] <polpak> ElitePete
[11:46] <nalioth> he's not banned, just quieted
[11:46] <ElitePete> whatever im out of here
[11:46] <polpak> ...
[11:46] <Seveas> !tell ElitePete about pastebin
[11:46] <polpak> He was trying to send me a tell
[11:46] <polpak> and he sent to channel
[11:46] <ElitePete> i typed /msg
[11:46] <maskd> gday everybody
[11:46] <ElitePete> fucking jerks
[11:47] <polpak> ElitePete, calm down
[11:47] <navarone> calamari...I find the install cd's rescue mode will probably cover most needs but you may want to consider a live cd or sysrescuecd for all circumstances
[11:47] <polpak> oh well
[11:47] <Seveas> !attitude
[11:47] <ubotu> The people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.
[11:47] <Seveas> just to remind everyone...
[11:48] <ardchoille> nalioth, Seveas: I'm glad you are here :)
[11:48] <nalioth> !conduct
[11:48] <ubotu> conduct is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:48] <calamari> navarone: yeah.. I'd like to make a live cd that can run qt/g parted .. so I have something like partition magic.
[11:48] <sephran> what is going on here, when I have this?
[11:48] <sephran> sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2 has been done succesfully, but the folder windisk 2 itself, has a red X in the corner of it. Clicking it gives me the message that I dont have the permission neccesairy to view the contents of windisk2
[11:48] <nalioth> calamari: the liveCD will run g/qtparted (in fact gparted comes with it)
[11:48] <maskd> oh dear why does the ubotu have personality and use the word 'like' where it's not appropriate?!
[11:48] <polpak> sephran, you probably need to set a different umask or uid when you mount
[11:48] <nalioth> maskd: ubotu is from southern cali, evidentally
[11:48] <remote_> if I want all users to have access to fonts, where do I put them?
[11:48] <navarone> calamari...try googling sysrescue cd...I ahve a copy burned...
[11:48] <Seveas> !fonts
[11:48] <ubotu> from memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:48] <calamari> navarone: thanks again :)
[11:49] <navarone> np
[11:49] <interfear> just heard about ubuntu... downloading now.. how does everyone like it?
[11:49] <polpak> calamari, knoppix works too
[11:49] <navarone> calamri...forwarned is forearmed...<s>
[11:49] <Seveas> interfear, a lot :)
[11:49] <interfear> nice :).. cant wait
[11:49] <sephran> can you talk me through it polpak? If I finish getting the files from there, I can go home at last..having helped my mate backup the files
[11:49] <Kindred> interfear, it's great.. :)
[11:49] <navarone> interfear...you may have a few quirk to work out...but it bets windows by a longshot imo
[11:50] <Kovecses> bbl
[11:50] <polpak> sephran, when you do the mount just add -o 'uid=username' after the -t ntfs
[11:50] <polpak> sephran, where username is your username
[11:50] <meepy> Where do I drop a GDM package to install?
[11:50] <Miles> howdy everyone, I've got a phpmyadmin question that's making me cranky, anyone have experience with that?
[11:50] <sephran> what username would that be?
[11:51] <binarydigit> dpkg -i
[11:51] <Seveas> meepy, gdm package?
[11:51] <maskd> sudo dpkg -i pckgname.debi
[11:51] <Seveas> Miles, just ask :)
[11:51] <maskd> no i on the end there
[11:51] <sephran> I dont recall the hd having one
[11:51] <meepy> I mean the compressed archive with the files
[11:51] <meepy> Where should they be when unpacked?
[11:51] <polpak> sephran, no.. your username
[11:51] <sally_> I installed ubuntu on a laptop that dual boots with XP, after partitioning the disk to give space to ubuntu.  If I format that partition in windows, to ntfs, will grub still be able to boot into XP?
[11:51] <Seveas> meepy, gdm is in the ubuntu repositories
[11:51] <maskd> normally home folder or desktop
[11:51] <Seveas> don't use tarballs
[11:51] <polpak> sephran, the one you log into ubuntu as
[11:51] <maskd> meepy: it is easier to sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:52] <MarcN> Miles: why does phpmyadmin make you cranky?
[11:52] <Miles> I've setup sugar 3.5.1e on Ubuntu, and everything works groovy, but I can't login to phpmyadmin, none of the passwords or logins i've used work.  Where is the config for this access? How do I reset his password?
[11:52] <meepy> Seveas: I know, but when I choose "Install GDM" I can not browse to my "Document" folder, only . folders
[11:52] <Miles> You guys rock btw
[11:52] <sephran> aaah .....eh...whats the default one? I never went back to login, this is straight from the cd
[11:52] <polpak> sally_, you'll need to reformat it to ext2 or ext3 in order to install ubuntu on it. But the installer can reformat it
[11:52] <Seveas> meepy, you're not making any sense...
[11:52] <MarcN> Miles: it is asking for a mysql password.
[11:52] <meepy> Nevermind.
[11:53] <Miles> I gave it the one that's in the config.php that sugar uses to login to mysql, so I dunno what gives, it won't let me login..
[11:53] <ardchoille> meepy: you installing a new gdm theme?
[11:53] <MarcN> Miles: Real Men(tm) use the command line.  The same password.
[11:53] <polpak> sephran, you're on a live cd?
[11:53] <meepy> Yes ardchoille
[11:53] <sephran> yes
[11:53] <sally_> polpak: it already has ubuntu on it, I want to get rid of ubuntu though, I need the space in windows
[11:53] <meepy> Where do I place the files?
[11:53] <ardchoille> meepy: got it figured out?
[11:53] <polpak> sephran, the username is ubuntu
[11:53] <Seveas> meepy, ah, gdm *theme*
[11:53] <meepy> No, not yet. hehe
[11:53] <Seveas> meepy, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[11:53] <MarcN> Miles: try     $ mysql -u USERNAME -p     and see what you get.
[11:53] <meepy> Merci Seveas
[11:53] <Miles> I'd love to command line into mysql, I know how to get into it in windows, but not here in lovely ubuntu land
[11:53] <ardchoille> meepy: open gdmsetup, go to the Themed Greeter tab and click on Install new theme
[11:54] <MarcN> Miles: where USERNAME and the password that mysql prompts for is the one you have in the configuration file.     The command line is  simply   mysql
[11:54] <maskd> Miles: Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[11:54] <Ganjhi> Hi, I'm looking at this guide to install Enemy Territory on Ubuntu, and it says to open "Root Terminal" in system tools, but that isn't actually under my system tools. Any ideas?
[11:54] <maskd> Ganjhi: right click on applications and go to menu editor
[11:55] <polpak> sally_, oh. you formatted your ubuntu partition to ntfs?
[11:55] <Cyfr> Hey.. if I get the error 'CRC failed' when trying to unrar a file thats distributed over 20rar files.. does it mean im doing it wrong or that the files are corrupt?
[11:55] <navarone> Ganji it is in System tools in the menu editor
[11:55] <maskd> Ganjhi: "Edit Menus", click System tools on the left pane and then check the box that says root terminal
[11:55] <Ganjhi> Thanks  Maskd
[11:55] <Ganjhi> Got it
[11:55] <sally_> polpak: not yet, because I am not sure if doing so will prohibit me from booting into windows
[11:56] <nalioth> Cyfr: did you start at part01 of the rar set?
[11:56] <maskd> sally_: wouldn't it be better to format ubuntu partition as ext3 or ext2?
[11:56] <Seveas>  maskd ext3
[11:56] <Miles> i type in mysql at the terminal and I get "command not found"
[11:56] <polpak> sally_, it won't.. But if you aren't going to be using linux you can just reinstall your windows boot loader by booting from a windows rescue disk and using fdisk /mbr
[11:56] <Cyfr> yes, used 'unrar e filename.r00
[11:56] <Miles> **heart broken**
[11:57] <sephran> polpak: what do I do to unmount hda5? since now when I did.....  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2  , it says I'm allready mounted
[11:57] <MarcN> Miles: sudo apt-get install mysql-client
[11:57] <sally_> polpak: yeah I know, but I don't have one :-( I only got some OEM disks with this machine
[11:57] <nalioth> Cyfr: there was no file.rar?
[11:57] <sally_> polpak: thanks for the help
[11:57] <remote_> !font
[11:57] <sephran> polpak:I previously mounted without username
[11:57] <ubotu> well, font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:57] <sally_> maskd: I am trying to get rid of ubuntu
[11:57] <hosler> Everytime I bang on my desktop table my computer restarts!
[11:57] <Cyfr> yes there is, I just tried that now and got same error
[11:57] <Miles> MarcN: doinit
[11:57] <robertj> if [`mount|grep /home/$userid|wc -l` = "0"] ; then
[11:57] <robertj>  isn't working the way I am expecting it to, what I am I doing wrong?
[11:58] <vb_coder> why would apt-get give this message in ubuntu:   libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable
[11:58] <ardchoille> Seveas: Thank you for posting the URL to that art.gnome.org faq :)
[11:58] <MarcN> Miles: another handy command is:     apt-cache search mysql | more
[11:58] <Seveas> vb_coder, because you are installing broken packages. Don't :)
[11:58] <sally_> maskd: I have kubuntu dapper flight 2 on there now, it is the first distro that allows me to use my wireless card and my touchpad at the same time, but it is too buggy for now, I will have to wait for the final version
[11:58] <nalioth> Cyfr: then your archives are corrupt
[11:58] <navarone> sally...you can use the ubuntu install disk to format the ubuntu partition ...at least into fat32...then convert them in windows. You can begin install and do the manual partitioning and formatting and then leave install
[11:58] <moodog> sally_: why don't you just use fdisk / disk management under windows to delete the partion(s) with ubuntu on?
[11:58] <Cyfr> okay thankyou
[11:58] <vb_coder> Seveas: what is the solution? how could the package be broken if i havent installed it yet?
[11:59] <sally_> moodog: I didn't know if doing that would make grub not be able to boot
[11:59] <sally_> XP
[11:59] <Seveas> vb_coder, it's broken in the repository
[11:59] <Seveas> what are you trying to install?
[11:59] <maskd> sally_: so you have kubuntu and xp on your system?
[11:59] <vb_coder> Seveas: opera
[11:59] <sally_> maskd:  yeah
[11:59] <maskd> sally_: how are they set up partition wise
[11:59] <Seveas> vb_coder, get the debian etch version
[11:59] <navarone> sally if you are completely removing ubuntu grub is not an issue. Windows bootloader will load windows for you
[11:59] <moodog> sally_: boot xp into recovery mode from the install cd and use fixmbr
[11:59] <hosler> Everytime I bang on my desktop table my computer restarts!
[11:59] <Seveas> the so called ubuntu version is only for hoary
[12:00] <Seveas> hosler, ROFL
[12:00] <MarcN> hosler: sounds like you have hardware problems.  Loose board?