[12:47] <Mez> Riddell: welcome back and ping
[12:48] <Riddell> Mez: thanks and pong
[12:48] <Mez> Riddell: got the latest package of katapult to go up :D
[12:49] <Riddell> Mez: ah yes, I'll take a look in a couple of minutes
[12:49] <Mez> with a few fixes and stuff (it's going through into debian soon - I'm working with one of the kde team to get that sorted
[12:49] <Mez> he's noticed quite a few things that arent in the revu package
[12:50] <Mez> Hobbsee, did you get my answer about katapult earlier?
[12:55] <Mez> Riddell: putting new version up to REVU
[01:02] <allee> hi Mez
[01:03] <allee> Just saw your mez-guest in pkg-kde on alioth. But I don't remember a commit from you.  what happened? ;)
[01:03] <Mez> erm - I didnt know i'd been given access
[01:03] <Mez> there was a reason for it :D lol
[01:03] <allee> heh :)
[01:03] <Mez> It was something to do with helping with some package or another that I'd provided patches for
[01:04] <Mez> but they requested it but I never got told i had access
[01:06] <allee> [Pkg-kde-commits]  rev 1645 - scripts/svn-hooks Date: 2005-09-01 22:43:10 +0000 (Thu, 01 Sep 2005)
[01:06] <allee> Add mez-guest as a kde-extras committer.
[01:06] <Mez> yeah
[01:06] <Mez> there was something in there lol
[01:07] <allee> Mez: so consider yourself as officially informed ;)
[01:07] <Mez> allee: now I gotta remmeber what it was for :D
[01:10] <allee> Mez: ahh libkexif: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2005-August/000318.html
[01:10] <Mez> I just remember it being that we'd made changes in ubuntu so they wanted to give us access :D
[01:10] <Mez> ah yes :D
[01:10] <Mez> lol
[01:11] <Mez> I'd made a few changes to fix lil things lol - mainly rebuilds to get the damn thing to be nice
[01:11] <Mez> lol
[01:11] <Riddell> Mez: is katapult ready for me to look at?
[01:12] <Mez> Riddell: er yeah - though I cant get it up to revu atm - lemme upload it to my server
[01:14] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/katapult/
[01:14] <Mez> Riddell: there it is ^^
[01:16] <Mez> Riddell: uploading to revu now aswell :d
[01:17] <Riddell> Mez: what's the reason for a snapshot just now?
[01:18] <Mez> Riddell: because theres been a few bugfixes - it has the new icon - and It's more stable ...
[01:18] <Riddell> groovy
[01:18] <Mez> plus - the simple fact it distributes something in the current package that it not under GPL :D
[01:18] <Mez> :-"
[01:19] <Mez> which NONE of us noticed
[01:19] <Riddell> Mez: oh?  what's that?
[01:20] <Mez> the doc/ folder
[01:20] <Mez> lol
[01:20] <Mez> it was an example thing
[01:20] <Mez> but theres some issue with it according to debian
[01:20] <Mez> so i removed it :D
[01:20] <Mez> :P
[01:20] <Mez> Riddell: basically this is the last snapshot before we actually release 0.3 I believe
[01:20] <Mez> of course - I'm gonna wait for Bastian to be back
[01:21] <Mez> but - it's pretty much done :D
[01:21] <crimsun> oh, the G FDL issue?
[01:21] <Mez> crimsun, yeah :D
[01:21] <Mez> :-"
[01:21] <Mez> I dont know how none of us noticed that
[01:21] <Mez> plus we're using JRe's doc stuff anyways - the doc/ folder isnt used :D
[01:22] <Riddell> Mez: FDL is fine for Kubuntu, although it's not clear what copyright licence that template is under, seems to be free for all
[01:22] <Mez> Riddell, IT doesnt matter anyways - it's gone now :D
[01:24] <Riddell> yep
[01:25] <Mez> any problems with the package (I've been caught out on sooo many lil things lol!)
[01:25] <Mez> btw - why did you add the B-D on automake1.9 ?
[01:25] <Riddell> dunno, it needed it
[01:26] <Mez> doesnt anymore :P
[01:26] <Mez> nor autotools-dev
[01:27] <crimsun> even on amd64?
[01:27] <crimsun> in the past that's where most of them have ftbfs
[01:27] <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/katapult/0.3-0ubuntu1/  yeah, failed on 64 bit without it
[01:31] <Riddell> Mez: we still need kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff
[01:32] <Mez> why - isnt it in the source now ?
[01:33] <Riddell> doesn't seem to be, and it probably shouldn't be since admin/ is just taken from KDE
[01:33] <Mez> I thought it was o_o
[01:34] <Riddell> we should have katapult auto-launch instead of relying on ksmserver.  I think that's just a line in the .desktop file
[01:35] <Mez> yeah but if people dont want it ?
[01:35] <Mez> I mean - did you look at that bug?
[01:35] <Riddell> I remembera bug on the issue
[01:35] <Mez> but yeah
[01:35] <Mez> i closed it
[01:35] <Riddell> if people don't want it it doesn't get in the way
[01:35] <Mez> people dont neccessarily want it there
[01:36] <Mez> and seeing as alt+space overrieskmail shortcuts :D
[01:36] <Hobbsee> with the latest version of katapult, is there a way to get the system tray icon again, once it's hidden, without going into the configuration file, and changing trayicon to equal true?
[01:36] <Mez> then if people dont want it they can easily get rid of it
[01:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee: control-space control-c
[01:36] <Mez> Hobbsee, alt+space - ctrl+c configure katapult -> show icon in systray
[01:37] <Mez> Riddell - i think it should be how it is
[01:37] <Mez> turned on by default but not forced
[01:37] <Hobbsee> ah...i see...
[01:37] <Hobbsee> Mez was right
[01:37] <Hobbsee> cool :) - i just edited the config file last night when i wanted to get at the system tray icon...
[01:37] <Hobbsee> much quicker this way
[01:38] <Mez> lol
[01:38] <Mez> Riddell - I'll readd that patch though 
[01:38] <Mez> though i'm not too sure if it'll cause problems 
[01:38] <Mez> it did before
[01:38] <Mez> wouldnt patch
[01:38] <Riddell> Mez: I already have
[01:39] <Mez> oh, ok :D
[01:39] <Mez> you're gonna do it that way :D
[01:39] <Mez> lol :D
[01:40] <Mez> Riddell: after this any chance of you helping me out with a package
[01:40] <Mez> I seriously have no idea why it's not working but dh_install is being a *****
[01:46] <Riddell> Mez: changing version no to katapult-0.3baz20051226 so 0.3.0 is greater
[01:47] <Mez> Riddell: the package will be released as 0.3.1 I believe :D
[01:47] <Mez> but tis up to you
[01:54] <seth_k|lappy> my eyes
[01:56] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: better than :'( ones though
[02:05] <Mez> lol
[02:05] <Mez> hows things seth ?
[02:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:15] <seth_k|lappy> just working on PHP stuff
[03:17] <Mez> Riddell: you might know who i can talk to about this: dcop kicker MenuManager doesnt seem to have anything
[03:17] <Mez> it's annoying cause we could use that for katapult if it did
[03:19] <Riddell> Mez: what should it do?
[03:20] <Mez> it should exist :D
[03:20] <Mez> it lists it as an export in dcop kicker
[03:20] <Mez> but i'm guessing in there should be functions to manage the kmenu via dcop
[03:21] <Riddell> aseigo would be the chap to know
[03:21] <Riddell> he's not on IRC just now
[03:21] <Mez> darn
[04:17] <crimsun_> Riddell: ping
[05:31] <jjesse> allee: are you still using qemu?  did you get networking enabled and working?
[05:32] <Riddell> sean@inwords.co.za has been removed from kubuntu-devel
[05:32] <Riddell> no more froud I guess
[05:32] <jjesse> Riddell: haven't seen him since his last disagreement w/ the doc-team
[05:32] <Tm_T> hi Riddell :)
[05:34] <Riddell> hi Tm_T 
[05:35] <Mez> Riddell, do you know if muszilla is on IRC ? (and whats his nick)
[05:35] <Riddell> Mez: who is he?
[05:36] <Mez> Riddell: Andreas Muesgiller
[05:36] <Mez> the guy who does kzenexplorer etc
[05:37] <Riddell> Mez: not sure I'm afraid
[05:37] <Mez> fair enough :D
[05:38] <Mez> Riddell, any more changes needed for katapult?
[05:38] <Riddell> Mez: katapult is uploaded
[05:38] <Tm_T> hmh, I'm trying to compile kicker, but its whining something about missing /usr/lib/libXft.la and I can't find it
[05:38] <Mez> Riddell: ah - I didnt see anything in dapper-changes
[05:38] <Riddell> Mez: you should have got katie output too
[05:39] <Riddell> Tm_T: in libxft-dev
[05:39] <Mez> Riddell: you upped it in my name?
[05:39] <Mez> I didnt get katie output
[05:39] <Riddell> Tm_T: although if it's been scrapped you'll need to recompile everything that references it, grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la
[05:39] <Riddell> Maintainer: Martin Meredith <mez@ubuntu.com>
[05:39] <Riddell> Changed-By: Martin Meredith <mez@ubuntu.com>
[05:39] <Mez> hmm
[05:40] <Mez> yeah
[05:40] <Mez> It's uploaded 
[05:40] <Mez> weird
[05:40] <Mez> but no katie/dapper-changes output
[05:40] <Riddell> it was in dapper-changes
[05:41] <Mez> yeah
[05:41] <Mez> hmm
[05:41] <Mez> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-December/003848.html
[05:42] <Mez> I dont think I'm getting any email to my ubuntu.com email
[05:47] <Tm_T> hmm
[05:48] <Tm_T> Riddell: oh great
[05:49] <Tm_T> Riddell: I do have libxft-dev installed, but no libXft.la
[05:52] <Riddell> Tm_T: look at the changelog
[06:37] <Tm_T> Riddell: ok
[06:47] <Tm_T> this one is interesting: locate: fatal error: set_path_head: path_head len <= 0: 0
[06:47] <Tm_T> :p
[06:52] <Mez> Riddell, ping