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Spudchathi everyone12:04
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sander__hi12:07
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gekcan anybody help me to install no-ip client?12:18
robotgeekgek: sudo apt-get install no-ip12:19
leafwuse Adept12:19
leafwin the Menu / Syste,12:20
leafwm12:20
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gek))) i m new to ubuntu. sorry for my noob question. thanks at all12:21
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gekhow can i start it12:22
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robotgeekgek: open a konsole, sudo /etc/init.d/no-ip restart12:23
Snake__Hey how hard is it to set up samba to share to other PCs??12:23
kkathmanevening robotgeek :)12:24
Snake__Sup kkathman12:24
kkathmanSnake__: its easy12:24
Snake__Easy enough to where I could do it?12:24
Snake__:)12:24
kkathmanlook in the wiki...foolproof instructions :)12:24
Snake__I got a 266 mhz, 64 mb RAM system I want to set up as a local file server, and I want to host a few files on the web12:24
LacertaIIwhat the hell is happening to my PC? Kubuntu has been driving my HD like crazy for about 2 hours. Even the shell lags like hell and kdm doesn't seem to be working at all.12:24
Snake__I can do that right?12:24
Snake__!+samba12:25
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently12:25
gek./robotgeek thanks12:25
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kkathmanLacertall have you looked at ksysguard to see whats running?12:26
LacertaIIkkathman i can't use anything in KDE12:26
kkathmanLacerta12:26
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kkathmanLacertall then open a konsole and look at ps aux12:27
kkathmanor top12:27
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leafwhow come the CLI ftp client is so limited? Is there any other non-gui ftp client to install in the repositories?12:30
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naliothleafw: many of them. try lftp12:31
LacertaIIkkathman is there something in particular i should be looking for?12:31
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LacertaIIbtw it took about 2 minutes before the ps command finished12:31
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kkathmanLacertaII: yes, run the "top" command and look at the top running processes and see whats "hogging" the resource12:32
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leafwthanks nalioth12:32
leafwactually it turns out lftp is already installed.12:32
kkathmanLacertaII: I dont know what could be consuming THAT much resource12:32
naliothleafw: search in adept for ftp12:32
LacertaIIkkathman: there's "gam_server" using 80% of all memory12:37
LacertaIImem%12:37
LacertaIIis it all available memory or used memory?12:37
LacertaIIand i didn't even do anything. it started doing that by itself12:37
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kkathmangam is a file monitoring daemon12:38
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jahshuaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:39
jahshuamy xmms has just decided to stop playing .mp3 files12:39
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jahshua'failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10'12:41
jahshuacan someone help :(12:41
bobesponjahey all12:42
bobesponjado you know how I can get my usb mouse to work again? I unplugged it and replugged it and now it's blocked12:42
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LacertaIIkkathman: it stopped immediately when i killed kdm12:48
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kkathmanLacertaII: Im not familiar with the gam server12:49
kkathmanHobbsee: you know about the gam server?12:50
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LacertaIIno i've been using linux for a couple of weeks12:50
krilleHi !12:50
jahshuamy xmms has just decided to stop playing .mp3 files12:50
kkathmanthe gam server is a file monitoring daemon...so something is awry here12:50
jahshua'failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10'12:50
jahshuacan someone help :(12:51
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boskhttp://lesbian.mine.nu/12:52
naliothLacertaII: what version of kde are you running?12:53
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endo602in the bios how do i make my sata drive the master boot01:11
endo602?01:11
Bachus9000I've been having lots of trouble with the gstreamer plugin for Amarok and I would like to give the xine engine a shot.  I've installed the amarok-xine package, but xine does not show up in the Amarok settings dialog.  This is using Amarok 1.3.7 from the Kubuntu repository provided at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php. (of course, on Breezy :))01:12
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boskdoes it play mp3-s?01:13
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boski use http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=507254 and i see xine in preferences01:14
RiddellBachus9000: restart amarok, including the icon in the system tray01:14
boskRiddell, oh, yes :)01:14
admrlBachus9000: use xine for amarok01:15
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ShadymanHey guys.01:15
admrlBachus9000: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine01:15
boskhe uses it01:15
ShadymanI started up Kubuntu, and logged in, and now it wants a password for "kate '-session' '10c517070000135...'01:15
ShadymanAnd it's not my login password or wallet password01:16
admrloh i didnt read the hole thing01:16
admrlyouve got it bosk01:16
admrllol01:16
Bachus9000Yes, Riddell, I tried that and the plugin did not show up.  I restarted KDE and now it *is* present and appears to work fine.  Strange...the arts engine popped up right away after installing the packages and restartin Amarok.  Oh well. :)01:17
Bachus9000Thanks for the, er, moral support guys. :)01:17
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endo602how can i install my OS on my sata drive and leave my ides as slaves01:27
boskendo602, and where is the problem?01:29
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endo602setup is not recognizing the sata as a master01:30
endo602or even as a drive01:30
boskwhat do you meen as "master"?01:30
boskwhat os do you want to install?01:30
boskI have ubuntu installed on IDE, but my sata is recognized well too01:31
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Snake__Does anyone know of any program that would let me see what other users on this network are doing?01:32
ShadymanSnake__: ethereal01:33
Snake__That doesn't tell me what other people are doing01:33
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Snake__I can't see what website my sis is connecting to01:34
Snake__etc etc01:34
ShadymanSnake__: Sure you can.01:34
Hobbseecheck her browsing history :P01:34
Snake__Shadyman: Not unless I install it onto the router...01:34
Snake__unless there is some way, if so, do tell01:34
Hobbseewhy do you want to know what she's connecting to anyway?  doesnt seem terribly fair to me01:34
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ShadymanHobbsee: The smart ones always have the advantage ;)01:35
Snake__Hobbsee: I don't care what shes doing, this is more of a "I just wanna see if its possible" thing01:35
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Hobbseeah right01:35
sambagirli have an external protocal request dialog box and i have cancelled it 100 times but it still is there, how do i remove it?01:35
Snake__If ya know that I mean ;)01:35
HobbseeShadyman: exactly, various anonymous stuff01:35
Snake__Shadyman: Well could you describe to me how to do it without installing or tampering with any of the router software?01:36
bosksambagirl, ctrl-alt-escape01:36
sambagirloh no it shut down my mozilla01:36
ShadymanSnake__: Is it a router or a hub?01:36
Snake__Shadyman: Linksys WRK54G Router01:37
ShadymanSnake__: Gah.01:37
Snake__Bah!01:37
Snake__lol01:37
ShadymanSnake__: With a hub, you could see all traffic going through01:38
Snake__I know01:38
ShadymanSnake__: Like at school... *shiftyeyes*01:38
Snake__But I don't have a hub :)01:38
ShadymanSnake__: True.01:39
Snake__Shadyman: Actually my school has a giant router :(01:39
ShadymanSnake__: OMGWTFBBQ?01:39
Snake__I kid you not01:39
Snake__I've seen it01:39
Snake__That is no hub lol01:39
ShadymanSnake__: We've got hubs in every room, and one router per building.01:39
Snake__Shadyman: Wow....lol01:39
Snake__Shadyman: Okay so can I do it without a hub?01:40
ShadymanSnake__: each room is connected to router with gigabit ethernet, routers are wired to the server room with fibre optic01:40
ShadymanSnake__: Not sure.01:40
Snake__Okay then01:40
Snake__:)01:40
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ShadymanSnake__: All i know is that passwords are plaintext *shifty*01:40
Shadymanat least for one of our online applications.01:40
Snake__Shadyman: not all ;)01:40
Snake__Shadyman: I know my teachers webmail's is01:41
Snake__Shadyman: ....now I just need to figure if novells is :D01:41
ShadymanSnake__: That too.01:41
Snake__novell is plaintext??01:41
ShadymanNo01:41
Snake__Oh01:41
Shadymanbut around here, they use a RADIUS server.01:41
Shadymanall passwords are the same.01:41
Snake__Hahaha01:41
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Snake__*sigh* want do this with a ROUTER01:42
Snake__grrr01:42
ShadymanSnake__: Maybe someone in #ubuntu could help01:42
Shadymanthere's lots more trolls there than here01:42
Shadymanlol01:42
Snake__Maube01:42
LacertaI want to get some files from my WinXP PC. Do i need to make some adjustments there so linux can access it?01:43
naliothtrolls?01:43
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Snake__Lacerta use samba01:43
Shadymannalioth: People trolling around.01:43
Shadymannalioth: Folks listening, but not participating01:43
naliothShadyman: those are lurkers01:43
LacertaSnake__:  yeah but do i need to drag my fat ass to the winxp to make it work?01:44
Snake__You shouldnt01:44
Snake__lol01:44
LacertaSnake__:  i'd rather just sit here01:44
naliothShadyman: trolls shout "F&&&& YOU!" and leave01:44
Shadymannalioth: Hmm.. I thought they shouted "O RLY"?01:44
Hobbseeprobably that too01:44
Hobbseethen we get out our nice and shiny ban stick :P01:45
Snake__:)01:45
Shadymano rly?01:45
Hobbseeof course01:45
Shadymanno wai01:45
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Shadymannever gets old.01:45
Snake__D00D IM H4x1n on l1nux!!01:45
Snake__am I cool yet??01:45
ShadymanSnake__: Yes.01:45
Snake__f0ck YA!01:45
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Snake__I beet u n00bs nevr evn seene lynix!01:46
ShadymanSnake__: Nope. Never.01:46
Snake__lol01:46
naliothSnake__: exhibit those traits in -offtopic, please01:46
Snake__:)01:46
Snake__But da n00bs in kubuntu dun no01:46
Snake__er01:46
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Shadymanubotu: tell Snake__ about enter01:47
Shadymanhehe01:48
Snake__Tard.01:48
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Snake__I wish this would work :(01:49
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ShadymanSnake__: You're on wireless?01:49
Snake__Yep01:49
ShadymanSnake__: Or, you mean "another" NIC?01:49
ShadymanO01:49
naliothShadyman: may i ask you into #kubuntu-offtopic please?01:51
Snake__lol01:51
Shadymannalioth: Ok..01:51
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propagandhihi guys & girls01:54
Hobbseehi propagandhi :)01:54
propagandhiI know this is a long shot but does anyone here have a good knowledge of postfix - i've tried the postfix channel, and theres no talk01:56
Hobbseepropagandhi: nope, no clue, sorry01:58
propagandhiahh, thats cool01:58
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ShadymanSnake__: Whoa.02:08
naliothSnake__: i saw it coming02:09
Snake__Dude they are talking to me in that channel...how owuld they like my to reply??02:09
naliothSnake__: you should ask them to join you in #ubuntu-offtopic02:09
Snake__Argh02:09
ShadymanI don't know what mode +b means, but it sounds bad.02:10
Snake__+b = Banned02:10
ShadymanSnake__: but you're still in the channel?02:10
Snake__Yes but I can't talk02:10
ShadymanSnake__: Ohh.02:10
naliothSnake__: you've been +q'd02:10
ShadymanQ for quiet02:11
Snake__Rofl02:11
Hobbseewhat, you were silly in #ubuntu?02:11
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Snake__Hobbsee: No apparently asking about linux on routers is off topic02:12
ShadymanHobbsee: No, I think he was talking about router stuff02:12
ShadymanHobbsee: Maybe a little silly, but nothing that I can't beat :P02:12
Hobbseeprepare for an official ban if you do...02:12
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ShadymanHobbsee: Ok, maybe I can't beat it, then.02:13
Hobbseehehe02:13
Hobbseemight not want to, more like02:13
Snake__:)02:13
ShadymanHobbsee: True.02:13
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naliothSnake__: folks who come back on a ban, generally turn a hour-or-two ban into a 2 or 3 day one02:16
Snake__nalioth: What do you mean?02:17
Snake__nalioth: I just exited because I have no reason to watch all the text scroll...it makes me jealous :P02:17
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naliothSnake__: there are some folks who change their method of entry (to beat the ban)02:18
Snake__Ohhhh I see02:18
Snake__Hmmm02:18
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Snake__Is there anyway I could make the terminal scroll random text?02:19
ShadymanSnake__: Don't burn out your brain.02:19
Snake__just for the fun of it02:19
ShadymanSnake__: Get a "The Matrix" screensaver.02:19
Snake__lol02:20
Snake__But seriously. Anyone?02:20
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HobbseeSnake__: cat /a/very/long/file02:21
arvindtest02:21
Hobbseehi arvind02:21
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Snake__Hobbsee: LOL! good idea :)!02:21
Hobbsee_:P02:22
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Ti_Uhlwhy is it that when u click a url in konversation that it downloads the page to a cache and then opens it in firefox ? because then u can see the page but if u click a link it doesn't work anymore .... :)02:28
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FHXHey all02:39
Snake__Sup FHX02:39
FHXis there a way for me to upgrade my IE in wine?02:39
Snake__did you get my note?02:39
FHXSnake__: Yeah, worked great =)02:39
Snake__:)02:39
FHXI'm trying to increase my RAM, but I don't know my computer model number.02:40
Snake__What kind of comp02:40
FHXand there's this scanner thing online that will determine the RAM i need, but it uses IE.02:40
FHXCompaq Presario,02:40
FHXit's ancient.02:40
FHX4-5 years ish02:40
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Snake__mmmm you would just have to open it up, and see what kind of ram is in it02:40
FHXI opened it02:40
FHXthe side, i can't tell.02:41
FHXXD02:41
FHXI don't know how to02:41
Snake__You have to read the ram chip02:41
FHXHm..okay tell me how? XD then I'll log off and open it again02:41
Snake__It should say like "DDR300 PC480002:41
Snake__Or something02:41
FHXthe side?02:41
FHXor do I have to open the back?02:41
Snake__On the stick of ram02:41
Snake__You have to get to the stick of ram02:41
FHXAren't there four?02:41
FHXthere were..x.x last time I checked02:41
Snake__I dont know...it depends how much you have in it02:42
FHX(10 mins ago)02:42
Snake__take them all out, and write down averything it says02:42
FHXHm..okay. So do I need to open the back of my comp? or just the side?02:42
FHXtake them out? O.O how?02:42
Snake__Oh god.02:42
Snake__Never mind02:42
Snake__Dont bothre02:42
Snake__lol02:42
FHX-.- No. Tell me.02:42
Snake__Go to offtopic  before I get banned here02:42
Snake__too02:42
FHXOk02:42
sampanFHX, do you have a windows partition on your hd?02:43
FHXsampan: No. I wiped windows clean off.02:43
sampanahhh too bad ... there's a nifty little app (cpu-z) that will show you a bunch of sys info (including exact ram type and data rate)02:44
sampanwindows only though :/02:44
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fit4lfedoes anyone user lftp here ?03:04
crimsun_I do03:05
fit4lfetrying to get on a pret site03:06
crimsun_"pret"?03:06
fit4lfeits an option \03:06
fit4lfeyes03:06
fit4lfeanyway03:06
fit4lfethis is what I try03:06
crimsun_I have no idea what a "pret" site is03:07
fit4lfelftp -p 19999 -u  name , pass sitename03:07
fit4lfewould that work03:07
fit4lfeto connect to a site03:07
crimsun_no space between name,passwd03:07
crimsun_otherwise, yes.03:07
fit4lfehow about ssl03:07
crimsun_depends if the ftp daemon you're connecting to uses gnutls or openssl03:08
fit4lfeopensll03:08
fit4lfeopenssl03:08
crimsun_lftp is linked against gnutls1203:08
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fit4lfenow I get an error saying even not found03:09
crimsun_ldd `which lftp`  -->  libgnutls.so.12 => /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.12 (0xb7e7b000)03:09
fit4lfedon't know03:09
crimsun_what's the precise error?03:10
crimsun_(sanitise it as necessary)03:10
fit4lfejust says event not found03:10
fit4lfenow do I have to lftp first03:10
fit4lfethen the commands03:10
fit4lfeor just lftp with the commands03:10
crimsun_normally, once you're in lftp, you'd ''open -u user,passwd -p port site''03:11
crimsun_either way03:11
crimsun_'site' of course must resolve03:11
fit4lfegot it thx03:12
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fit4lfecrimsun how do you mget multiple files ie.. xvid03:27
crimsun_fit4lfe: you just said it03:28
fit4lfegiving me an error03:28
fit4lfeAccess failed: 550 Not a plain file03:29
crimsun_then it's not a file03:29
crimsun_you're probably trying to get a directory03:29
crimsun_''help mirror''03:29
fit4lfeyes03:29
fit4lfek03:29
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fit4lfeso just mirror -c filename will work03:30
crimsun_dirname.03:31
fit4lfeyeah thats what I mean03:31
fit4lfethx bro03:31
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TachyonWhat exactly does "locking a session" do?03:32
AoPLocks it03:32
AoPSo when you goto switch to it you need to enter the pass03:32
stefanonice anwer03:32
stefano:)03:32
AoPI know =)03:32
TachyonAh03:32
stefanoit does not log you off if that was your intention to ask03:32
stefanotry it :D03:33
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TachyonNice.03:33
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Deterministis there anything special about the kubuntu iso image that would make the CD i burned it to unreadable? this has happened to me with 3 different burners and about 5 types of CDs, i just cant seem to be able to burn the cursed image and make the laptop boot from it and nothing can read the CD once it's burned03:36
Deterministi've used k3b, nero and gnomebaker to burn the CDs and i'm becoming hopeless03:36
naliothDeterminist: did you verify your image?03:36
naliothubotu: tell Determinist about verify03:36
Deterministyes mate, i did, twice03:36
stefanomaybe the reading-device is broken03:36
Deterministdude, it reads every other CD03:37
stefanothats crap03:37
Determinist...03:37
Deterministok, i'm gonna give this one last shot03:37
Deterministi have k3b03:37
stefanohow does the laptop react?03:38
Deterministhow is it supposed to react? it cant read the CD once it's written, no matter what burner i've used to burn it or what application.03:38
stefanodo you try to boot from it? or do you try to read it in windows, or linux, mac or what?03:39
Deterministtried to boot, tried to read the CD... no go03:39
Deterministlaptop boots fine from a winxp CD and from an ubuntu shipit CD03:39
Deterministand can read CDs just fine03:39
Deterministjust not this damned kubuntu image03:39
stefanoi would guess that there is the posibillity to have two cd's with different content but the same md5-sum03:39
Deterministi suppose, yes03:40
Deterministbut what's the possibility? i've downloaded the image 3 times already just to make sure03:40
Deterministfrom different mirrors03:40
stefanoawe03:40
Deterministi feel like kicking something already lol03:40
Deterministthis just doesnt make sense03:40
stefanodude thats like aliens manipulate you :>03:40
Determinist:D03:41
Deterministno, seriously. gonna try one last time03:41
stefanoand then?03:41
Deterministis there any specific way to burn the image using k3b?03:41
AoPHis head will implode03:41
stefanodo not hurt yourself or some crap. it istn worth the blood03:41
Deterministlol03:41
Deterministcome on, be serious03:41
stefanookay man :)03:41
stefanothere is no special way to burn it03:41
stefanojust burn it how you a used to do so03:42
Deterministalright03:42
Deterministbrb then03:42
stefanomka03:42
stefanoy03:42
AoPmmkay03:43
sorush20where is mysql in ubuntu?03:43
stefanonowhere03:43
stefanoits commercial since a few month, and for that reason they left it out03:43
stefanoi guess03:44
stefanooh no03:44
stefanoits there03:44
stefanouse adept and type mysql03:44
stefanoinst really that hard :>03:45
Deterministmysql is dual, kinda like QT, isnt it?03:46
Deterministok, burning at speed X1 :P03:46
stefanomaybe, i dont really know but it sounds correct03:46
Deterministif that doesnt work right, i'm gonna throw this laptop out the window and burn afew CDs with a lighter03:46
stefanono i've got a better idea03:47
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stefanothrow this laptop (gently) in a fedex-box and write my adress on it03:47
stefanothere you go03:47
stefanoi will punish it for you03:47
AoPI will to03:49
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stefanowhat does your "i will to" mean?03:49
harahi. does anybody know what printer/scanner-combination (I mean those multifunction things) brands work with Linux?03:51
crimsun_the HP printers do03:51
stefanoyes i heard that they'd work too03:51
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stefanohp printers have great linux-support at all03:52
AoPI've got a lexmark 2300 for Xmas, sadly it doesn't work =(03:53
AoPit's a 3 in 1 thingy03:53
bam_anyone know about  step-systime?03:53
stefanotry to get TurboPrint AoP!03:54
stefanomy friend's Pixma iP3000 works with tp03:54
AoPAlright03:54
AoPIll give it a shot ty03:54
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haracrimsun_: are the HP ones good? a friend of mine has an epson and he praises its greatness03:55
stefanodid you know that hp-printers are not able to print money?03:55
AoPomg =(03:56
stefanothey print this red bracket on it with "yadda yadda illegal and stuff"03:56
AoPMy big scheme... RUINED!03:56
crimsun_hara: they "work." I can't speak beyond that.03:56
stefanohara: take an hp ;) 3550 or so, cheap and good03:56
harastefano: how about that pixmap? that's canon right?03:58
stefanopixmap?03:58
stefanoi know about Pixma03:58
stefanothe iP 3000 and such03:58
AoPstefano:  TurboPrint doesn't support Lexmark brands at all I don't think =\03:58
stefanodamn, im sorry dude03:59
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AoPNP03:59
stefanohara: the canons dont work too good03:59
AoPI spose I'll just boot windows whenever I have to print stuff =D03:59
haraok03:59
harathanks!03:59
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stefanoyeah, unfortunately ppl dont expect these devices not to work. they think "its for a pc, it works" and then they see your desktop and ask "it this the new SupaStyleFlowerPowerXP Styling Package deluxe xxl shareware edition with 30-days-trial-period?"04:01
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lewisworkinanyone here use four monitors?04:16
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Knowerrors!libdvdcss04:16
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:16
Knowerrors!FreeFormats04:17
ubotuwell, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats04:17
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nalioth!libdvdcss204:20
ubotuI heard libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"04:20
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lewisworkinfor the life of....what is the apt-get command for mc?04:25
lewisworkinroot@litdonofrio:~# apt-get install mc04:26
lewisworkinReading package lists... Done04:26
lewisworkinBuilding dependency tree... Done04:26
lewisworkinE: Couldn't find package mc04:26
Hobbsee_afkapt-cache search mc04:27
naliothlewisworkin: please dont paste in here, and enable universe and multiverse repos04:29
lewisworkinya but I still do not see midnight commander04:29
nalioth!repos04:29
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:29
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xwolf-how can i install firefox 1.5 from the .tar.gz package?04:31
nalioth!firefox1504:31
ubotuI heard firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org04:31
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lewisworkin!multiscreens04:31
ubotulewisworkin: I haven't a clue04:31
lewisworkin!multiscreens right now I'm mirroring one display of my xentera gt 4 agp setup04:32
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, lewisworkin04:32
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lewisworkin!weather karb04:32
lewisworkingot the bot that time (-;04:33
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lewisworkinneed some help04:39
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TachyonAnyone know where I can find a driver for my Epson Stylus CX-3810?04:40
xwolf-how do I UNINSTALL firefox15? lololol04:40
naliothxwolf-: probably the reverse of how you got it04:40
xwolf-i don't know the way back04:41
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xwolf-haha04:41
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AoPHow do you uninstall stuff o.o04:47
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kkathmanAoP: depends on what you want to uninstall04:48
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AoPNothin really,04:49
AoPjust was wondering for future reference =)04:50
AoPsudo apt-get uninstall maybe :O04:50
kub-01does apt-get prompt before overwriting or prevent from installing conflicting packages?04:50
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naliothkub-01: it does04:56
Snake__Does anyone know how to set up a shoutcast server??04:56
Snake__(windows)04:56
naliothSnake__: try icecast or nicecast04:57
Snake__ok04:57
kkathmanAoP: to uninstall a package, yes (sudo apt-get uninstall <pkgname>, but other things are uninstalled differently04:57
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Deterministalright, finally, after days of playing around, thing burned the CD properly and booted from it04:58
Deterministi now have a clean kubuntu install on my laptop and a wonderful ubuntu install on my home desktop :P04:58
Deterministlife's back to normal04:58
AoPk04:58
kkathmanDeterminist: good news then :)04:58
Deterministindeed :)04:58
Deterministi wonder... is there any norton ghost like application for linux that i can use to save a snapshot of the current system state to be backed up to a DVD?05:00
lewisworkinneed multi monitor....what is hwdetect screit?05:00
lewisworkinscript?05:00
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Deterministany chance you guys might be able to tell me how to get the trash icon back on my desktop where it belongs ?05:02
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linux_galorejust wondering if there is a flight-2 version of Kubuntu all i can see is ubuntu05:02
linux_galorefor download05:02
linux_galoredont worry found it........sheeesh05:03
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lewisworkinplease insert the disk bressy.....why do I have to do that?05:08
lewisworkinhow do I get past the require dvd thing...05:10
lewisworkinin aptept05:10
lewisworkinadept05:11
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TachyonShould I be using OOo 2 or OOo 1?05:15
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naliothTachyon: use whatever you like05:16
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TachyonMeh . . .05:16
naliothlewisworkin: in adept preferences, see if you can remove the cd as a source05:17
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Deterministnalioth: any idea how to get the trash icon on my desktop? no gconf here, so cant find it ;)05:21
naliothDeterminist: have you seen gtweakui ?05:22
Deterministnalioth: nope mate05:22
nalioth!info gtweakui05:23
ubotugtweakui: (A collection of simple dialogs as a front end to GConf), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 67 kB, Installed size: 452 kB05:23
naliothn/m we are kubuntu users here, aren't we?05:23
naliothkkathman: you here?05:23
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Deterministnalioth: yeah, working on my laptop at the moment mate, gnome i can handle by now, it's kde i'm brand new around05:25
donofriook I created a new user logged in and do not have permission to mixer?05:25
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naliothDeterminist: somewhere in the prefs, you'll find the setting05:25
naliothi'm not sure where, Determinist05:25
Deterministnalioth: k mate, thanks05:25
kkathmannalioth yes...im here wassup?05:27
kkathmanwas working on something for a moment05:27
naliothkkathman: Determinist has a question05:27
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kkathmannalioth: oh now you set me up for that just to laugh and shame me05:28
Deterministkkathman: actually, i do :)05:28
Deterministkkathman: how do i put the trash icon on my desktop?05:28
kkathmango to the kicker, right click...add to panel...applet...trash05:29
Deterministkkathman: desktop... not panel mate05:29
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kkathmandesktop?05:29
kkathmanicck05:29
Deterministicck?05:29
difetahow can i remount my root filesystem in readonly mode?05:29
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kkathmanDeterminist: if you know where the trash applet is, its pretty easy from there05:31
kkathmanbut I dont05:31
AoP^.^05:31
Deterministk05:33
kkathmanDeterminist: there is an entry in kde-forums on it tho05:34
Deterministkkathman: k, thanks05:34
kkathmanit will work, but the trash icon wont change from full to empty05:34
kkathmanhttp://www.kde-forum.org/post/55629/lastpost.html#post5562905:35
kkathmanthats why I keep it in the kicker and just reduce the size of the kicker to the trash only05:35
Deterministkicker... would the what... exactly?05:35
naliothkicker is your panel05:36
Deterministright lol05:36
Deterministalright05:36
Deterministmind the terminology guys, not fully aware of such terms just yet :)05:36
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kub-01terminology?05:39
kub-01kicker?05:39
kub-01i like it05:39
kkathmanDeterminist: you can vary the size of the kicker tall, tiny, small...and virtually anywhere on the periphery of your desktop05:39
Deterministdude... kicker, applet, kububu, kobola, k-my-ass-is-on-fire ... it takes time getting used to lol05:39
kkathmanlol05:40
AoPI like how 90% of things starts with a K =)05:41
Deterministkkathman: yes, i've played with those options afew mins ago05:41
kkathmanDeterminist: if you are new to KDE, I would suggest that you spend alot of time in the System Settings area first, learning about how configurable the desktop is05:41
Deterministi dont, but then... i guess it could be worse05:41
Deterministkkathman: doing just that mate05:41
kkathmanI reduced the size of my kicker to just 2 small applets  .. trash and clock and its at the far right05:41
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kkathmanrest of the kicker is kinda messy05:42
sampani use a full width one, but it's transparent and reduced to just four icons on the right and pager/trash/clock on the left05:42
Deterministno, see, i'm an uptight anal person, if i dont know what does what i go slightly insane lol05:42
kkathmanTachyon: indeed, I am the same...nothing is on my desktop except the weather and monitor05:42
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kkathmanDeterminist: KDE help is very good05:43
AoPYou can get the weather?05:43
AoPSweet o.o05:43
kkathmanAoP yes05:43
TachyonI like sleek looks to the windows too.05:43
Deterministkkathman: aye, have that open as well...05:43
Deterministk guys, 3rd shift over, almost 7 am05:43
Deterministtime to head on home05:43
sampantachyon  the virtual desktops are VERY nice for managing lots of windows -- easy to switch to them with keystrokes and you can run more apps full screen then05:43
TachyonYeah, I like the desktops05:44
sampanthat's one of my fav linux features -- i never realized how limiting windows was with only one :/05:44
kkathmansampan:  I created a second panel and flush that full left and make it very small...contains my tray and the desktops applet05:44
kkathmansampan: you can get virtual desltops with windows too05:45
sampanyeah so i've heard, but it's not there by default, so i never even bothered to try05:45
sampanprobably wouldn't have even tried it out except that linux distros all have it -- tried it and got hooked :D05:46
kkathmansampan: true...I got one a long time ago as a bonus with another product I got05:46
kkathmansampan: I dont know what I did without them05:46
sampankkathman  you have two panels then?  one right, one left on the bottom?05:46
TachyonAnyone got a good recommendation for a sleek/efficient KDE theme?  Or other tips on maximising desktop usage?05:46
kkathmanone right, one left...both very small05:47
kkathmanthen I use ksmoothdock in the middle05:47
kkathmanit disappears when I dont need it05:47
sampannice ... :)  gotta love kde's flexibility05:47
sampannice clean background too?05:48
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kkathmansampan:  one sec...I'll give you a dump05:48
sampancool :)05:48
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ShadymanOk. KDE hates me.05:49
sampanshadyman  i doubt it -- it's probably nothing personal05:49
ShadymanIt likes crashing, though.05:49
ShadymanIs that its way of saying it loves me?05:50
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sampanperhaps!  kinda like a woman: always saying/doing the opposite of what they really mean!  ;/05:50
ShadymanI guess.05:50
ShadymanHow do you get the "My Computer"-type of thing like gnome has for the desktop?05:51
kkathmansampan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/636105:52
sampan*click*05:52
ShadymanPretty!05:53
Shadymanwhat's your CPU/RAM/Net applet thing?05:53
AoPI like ^05:53
kkathmanits a SuperKarama applet called newramba205:53
Shadymannewramba05:53
Shadymangot it05:53
sampankkathman  i like the monitors you have -- very nice05:54
kkathmannewramba205:54
kkathmantheres a newramba  and a  newramba205:54
Shadymanok05:54
kkathmannow if you look at the bottom05:55
kkathmansee that panel at the bottom?? That disappears during normal use05:55
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kkathmanand the virtual desktops go away also05:55
Shadymankkathman: Nifty.05:55
Shadymankkathman: I'm still not sure about KDE vs Gnome again, though. Gnome doesn't crash like KDE does.05:56
kkathmanoccasionally I will shut down all the SK stuff to get more room05:56
ShadymanKDE crashes... More than windows.05:56
kkathmanShadyman: My KDE has never crashed...not once05:56
Shadymankkathman: Whoa.05:56
TachyonKDE is far more comfortable for me.  I installed it yesterday after finding Gnome difficult to handle.  Already I like it better05:57
sampankkathman  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6362    this is mine -- super-simple :/05:57
naliothkkathman is a 7334 h@X0r05:57
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sampansince taking that snapshot i've removed most of the icons though -- so it's even more minimalistic05:58
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AoPnice desktop sampan05:59
sampanaop -- i dunno -- it's plain  ... and very very grey :X05:59
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AoPVery clean tho05:59
dissidentcitizenI find konqueror pretyy buggy, it crashes on renaming files and occasionally when browsing the web.....nothing major though05:59
TachyonWhat's the "Pager" for my desktops?05:59
Shadymandissidentcitizen: Yes! That's the kinda stuff I don't want.06:00
sampanthe wallpaper comes from the vladstudio site -- he does some really cool backgrounds06:00
ShadymanKate also crashes a lot for me.06:00
kkathmanI dont use konqueror for anything06:00
Shadymankkathman: How do you view directories, then?06:00
sampankkathman  what do you use for file management?06:00
ShadymanIf he says xterm...06:00
sampanlol06:00
sampanmaybe mc? ;x06:01
Shadymanhehehe06:01
kkathmanShadyman: I use krusader06:01
Shadymankkathman: Hmm.06:01
dissidentcitizenconsidering Kubuntu is only two releases old the slight buggyness doesn't really bother me, especially when you consider the upsides of having KDE3.5 and the usually the latest Amarok on release06:01
kkathmanand the CLI of course06:01
sampanhrmmmm, a krusader sounds like a kde-gui-mc06:02
Shadymansampan: It is.06:02
sampansounds like it's worth a look06:02
ShadymanWhat's the KDE equivalent of gksudo?06:03
sampankdesu06:03
nalioth!kdesu06:04
ubotu[kdesu]  :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "06:04
kkathmanShadyman: kdesu06:04
naliothmy answer was bigger! nyah! lol06:04
AoPWhere would I go about to get newramba or newramba2?06:04
Shadymannalioth: And what was this about using ubotu to tell folks things? :P06:04
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kkathmanAoP: kde-look.org06:05
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AoPk06:06
sampankkathman  krusader looks very nice indeed -- thank you for mentioning it!06:07
kkathmansure no problem06:07
kkathmansampan: whats nice about that program, is that you can run it either as root or regular user06:08
Shadymankkathman: I just saw that06:08
Shadymankkathman: It's better than running gksudo nautilus :P06:08
kkathmanand when you delete...is doesnt move it to trash...which takes forever with konqy06:08
kkathmanShadyman: yes06:09
sampanyeah i just added it to my kmenu in both normal and sudo varieties -- very handy06:09
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KnowerrorsHeyall, right now clock thinks its set to utc when its actually local, how do I change that?06:12
ShadymanKnowerrors Right click on clock, "Configure Clock"06:13
sampanknowerrors: system settings will have a date/time ...or you can right-click the clock to config06:13
Knowerrorsno good06:13
ShadymanNo wait, adjust date and time06:13
KnowerrorsI need a cli command to do it06:13
ShadymanO06:14
ShadymanI don't know, then.06:14
Knowerrorsit won't let me do admin mode at the moment, thats a seperate problem06:14
dissidentcitizenset the timezone on the "configure clock" when you right click on the clock06:14
sampanknowerrors  yes, that was a bug in the initial breezy release with admin mode.  you should update your system and it will work06:14
Knowerrorswhat file do I need to update?  Im on dialup and don't want to update whole thing06:15
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sampanknowerrors  probably the kde packages (not app ones)06:15
kkathmanKnowerrors - make sure your sources.list is set properly and then do the adept updater06:16
dissidentcitizeninstead of system settings try using good 'ol kcontrol, type "kdesu kcontrol" in the terminal and try using that to change it06:16
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Knowerrorstried that also06:17
Knowerrorswon't let me get into admin mode for clock/date06:17
sampanknowerrors  i had the same problem at first -- there is a work-around to set your clock to the right timezone (i'll post the url in a moment -- it's to a mepis forum), but you should update to fix the admin-mode because that's a major break06:17
kkathmanKnowerrors: you have to update first06:18
RichardCi've recently installed the linuxant modem drivers in kubuntu, but i cant connect to the internet. i had a similar problem in ubuntu, but i could work around it by using the networking window in gnome06:18
RichardCanyone know how i can get kubuntu to connect?06:18
RichardCkppp is what i've tried to connect with, and it doesnt seem to work06:18
sampanknowerrors  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678  the instructions in the fifth post or so worked for me to set my clock -- just adjust to using sudo instead of root is all06:18
Knowerrorsthx sampan06:19
KnowerrorsRichardC: I had that same problem06:19
RichardCit finds the modem, dials, talks with the server, and then before the connection is established, it disconnects with some ppp error06:19
Knowerrorscreate the file it asks you to as empty06:19
sampanknowerrors  sure -- but be warned, administering your pc will be MUCH easier if you take the time to update and get the root of the problem fixed (pun intended)06:19
RichardCKnowerrors: i dont recall it asking me to create a file06:19
Knowerrorsthen go to /etc/ppp/options and comment out the auth line06:20
RichardCahhh06:20
RichardCalright06:20
RichardCill give it a shot06:20
RichardCthanks06:20
Knowerrorssampan: I will for sure, seems crazy they left such a big bug as admin-mode like that in the breezy cd06:20
kkathmanKnowerrors: they fixed it almost immediately in the first update06:21
kkathmanits been fixed for months06:21
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RichardCKnowerrors: anything else i might want to know before i reboot?06:21
ShadymanIs there another Konqueror-like file manager?06:22
Knowerrorsyeah, they just shouldn't have rushed it, and the thing with the modem is really bad for dialup users like RichardC and me, espc if thats your only way to go online06:22
kkathmanShadyman: uh yes...krusader06:22
KnowerrorsRichardC: don't think so, boot away!06:22
Shadymankkathman: Besides Krusader :)06:22
kkathmansampan: did you upgrade to the new kernel yet?06:22
Shadymankkathman: I'm thinking, Windowy, like Konqueror or Nautilus06:22
RichardCwow. i thought i was the only one without access to broadband06:22
RichardCheh06:22
kkathmanShadyman: krusader is a kde app...and "windowy"06:23
sampankkathman  lol nope -- i don't want to ruin my uptime!  :X06:23
kkathmansampan:  ok06:23
RichardCbbiab06:23
sampani will though, next time i need to reboot06:23
sampankkathman  will it just add the kernal as a new boot entry? or will it replace my old kernel completely?06:24
Shadymankkathman: Is there a way to change Krusader from a list-type to an icon-type display on the right?06:24
kkathmanShadyman: no06:24
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Shadymankkathman: :(06:24
nalioththat is the beauty of krusader06:24
kkathmansampan: will probably replace the kernel06:24
ShadymanThink they will ever fix the bugs in Konqueror?06:25
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ShadymanThe SIGSERV errors have been around since RH9 days.06:25
sampankkathman  drat ... i'm always afraid of updating stuff like that (i updated firefox once in hoary and it broke; i updated in breezy and it broke scim -- i have bad luck with updates!)06:25
spstarr_homeis kicker broken with kmail? :)06:26
spstarr_homemaximize kmail, click an email and kicker dies06:26
kkathmanouch06:27
spstarr_homekde 3.2-3.506:27
spstarr_homeconsistantly :)06:27
kkathmanlet me try here spstarr_home06:28
spstarr_homeif i could get a crashdump with symbols06:28
spstarr_homei dont know does kubuntu provide a stub deb for symbols?06:28
ShadymanOh wow. amaroK skips like.. something that skips a lot.06:29
kkathmanspstarr_home: so you minimized it...then maximize it...and click an email?06:29
spstarr_homesomething like this yes06:29
kkathmannope...works fine here06:30
kkathmanI minimized...maxmimized and clicked on several emails06:30
spstarr_homesometimes not always06:30
kkathmankicker is still running fine06:30
kkathmanI dont use kmail anymore personally06:31
spstarr_homewhat is the name of the debug deb for kicker/kdelibs-bin?06:31
jahshuacan someone tell me how to close ports with kubuntu06:31
jahshuanetstat lists port 1025 as listening06:32
jahshua:/06:32
crimsunspstarr_home: kdelibs4c2-dbg06:32
spstarr_homemerci.. I must find out why kicker keeps dying06:32
Shadymanspstarr_home: While you're at it, find out about Konqueror for me :)06:33
Shadymanhhe06:33
spstarr_homehrm06:33
spstarr_homeapt cant find that06:33
spstarr_homeis that under a different source?06:34
TachyonOkay, so how do I set Krusader as the default file manager now instead of Konqueror?06:35
crimsunspstarr_home: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libdevel/kdelibs4c2-dbg06:35
crimsunspstarr_home: (universe)06:35
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spstarr_homeoh breezy06:35
spstarr_homehrm06:35
spstarr_homeno dapper symbols yet?06:35
crimsunc2a-dbg06:35
crimsundapper has undergone the libstdc++ allocator transition already06:36
spstarr_homegot it06:36
spstarr_homeforgot about that06:38
ShadymanOh weird.06:38
ShadymanIn Kubuntu I can't use my function key buttons as keyboard buttons06:39
Shadymanlike, Fn+Home (play), etc.06:39
propagandhiShadyman - join the club06:39
Shadymanpropagandhi: Gnome does that by default :(06:39
kkathmanShadyman: what do you mean?06:39
Shadymankkathman: You know how you can set keyboard shortcuts for things.06:40
kkathmanyes06:40
ShadymanI can't select Fn+Play, Fn+Stop, etc06:40
ShadymanOh wait.06:40
kkathmanohhh you mean the extended keys06:40
Shadymanyeah.06:40
ShadymanMaybe i didnt configure the Fn button right.06:40
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kkathmanyeah I havent found a soution for that either06:40
spstarr_homehrm, crimsun the deb shows nothing in it ;)06:41
spstarr_homedpkg -L shows a copyright and changelog06:41
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crimsunfile a bug.06:43
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propagandhidoes anybody know much about how u map keys after seeing the response in xev?06:44
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jahshuacan someone tell me how to close ports with kubuntu06:51
jahshuanetstat lists port 1025 as listening06:51
jahshuashould i be concerned about that06:52
naliothjahshua: but what is behind it listening?06:52
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naliothjahshua: there is no need to close anything, you are fine06:52
jahshuaok thanks06:52
jahshuai was worried06:52
jahshuais it easy to be hacked in with linux?06:53
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jahshuai have firestarter firewall, dont really know how to use it though :/06:54
RichardCthank you Knowerrors06:54
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spstarr_homein firefox and konq i dont see the full bug form06:54
spstarr_homehrm06:54
naliothjahshua: not really. i think firestarter is unnecessary06:55
jahshuareally?06:55
jahshuawow06:55
sampanjahshua  no it's not easy.  esp. with ubuntu which has no services listening to the outside world by default.  a firewall with a default ubuntu install is probably redundant protection as no ports are open anyway06:55
jahshuaok06:55
jahshuaso even if someone has your ip they cant do much?06:56
sampani installed firestarter right away too -- and i've kept it, but only because long-term windows use conditioned me to "feel" that it's necessary06:56
jahshuayeh06:56
spstarr_homeis bugzilla 'depreciated' for filing bugs?06:56
jahshuame too ;/06:56
spstarr_homeor launchpad is the way to go now06:56
kkathmanspstarr_home: bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:57
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spstarr_homeseems broke06:58
spstarr_homethe rendering of page doesnt work06:58
kkathmanits a plain page06:58
jahshuasomeone told me that kubuntu has plug n play, is that true ?06:58
spstarr_homewhen i fill in the fields i see it wants more fields that dont exist06:58
spstarr_home(the file a new bug page)06:58
kkathman??06:58
kinfowhat?06:58
spstarr_homeComponent Needed06:59
spstarr_home06:59
spstarr_home   You must choose a component to file this bug in. If necessary, just guess.06:59
spstarr_home   Please press Back and try again.06:59
spstarr_homei dont see 'component' field06:59
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spstarr_homea simple bug filling in page but not the full blown one06:59
jahshuawas someone trying to message me ??07:00
kkathmanspstarr_home: I dont get that at all :)07:02
spstarr_homein firefox or konq?!07:02
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naliothspstarr_home: please read the /topic and use a pastebin for pasting07:03
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KnowerrorsJust did an apt-get update and got this message http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/483807 , anybody know how to fix this?07:06
kkathmanKnowerrors: start by removing the "us"  and just make it "archive.ubuntu....07:07
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RichardCwhere can i find the default kubuntu 5.10 repositories list, online?07:08
nalioth!sources07:08
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:08
Knowerrorskkathman: that shouldn't matter, I have other repos with us in front that went just fine07:10
RichardCshould i use the US repositories?07:10
RichardCi remember hearing that they were notorious for not working correctly...07:10
KnowerrorsI used the source-o-matic to make mine07:10
naliothRichardC: they are notorious. go with what you know.07:10
RichardCKnowerrors: i love you , man. im online in linux. thank you so much!07:10
kkathmanKnowerrors: well maybe so...I used to have the US in mine and had some probs07:11
RichardCany suggested alternatives?07:11
RichardCi think i used canadas (cn?) last time07:11
Knowerrorskkathman: Im tryin with us deleted, well see if it goes07:11
kkathmanyeah thats odd Knowerrors  I know it doesnt make sense07:12
KnowerrorsRichardC: no prob, I suffered through fixing that myself from searching the kubuntu forums07:12
naliothRichardC: just archives.blah will be fine07:12
sampanjust delete the "us."?07:13
RichardCalright07:13
RichardCthank you07:13
RichardCand should i use the backports repository?07:14
RichardCit seems like a good idea to me, but not sure07:14
Knowerrors!ntpdate07:15
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Knowerrors07:15
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KnowerrorsLinik: I use backports, no problems at all07:17
Knowerrorshehe07:17
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Knowerrorswhats up with ubotu not knowing ntpdate07:18
sampan!info ntpdate07:18
ubotuntpdate: (The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers), section net, is important. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 42 kB, Installed size: 160 kB07:18
RichardCthis is gonna take a while07:20
RichardCi think im gonna like ubotu07:21
RichardCanyways.... so, anything i should do to help speed up my system07:21
RichardCoooh07:21
RichardCwhere is a good guide online for customizing your kernel07:22
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Knowerrorsso anyone know how to stop ntpdate from loading at boot?07:28
naliothKnowerrors: BUM07:29
nalioth!bum07:30
uboturumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html07:30
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RichardCalright07:31
RichardCi needed to know that too07:31
RichardCcan i stop kubuntu from trying to connect to a network at boot with bum too?07:31
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Link`sAdventureHello. I'm having a problem installing kubuntu on my notebook.07:32
Link`sAdventureSpecs: AMD Sempron 3200+, 1.8GHz w/ 1.6GHz FSB, 512MB RAM, ATi Radeon Xpress 200m w/ 128MB shared v-ram, 40GB HDD, 24x CD Burner/DVD-ROM combo drive07:33
Link`sAdventureAnyway, everytime I boot into the CD, the kernel boots, but then instead of going into an installer, I get presented with a blank screen, then eventually my drives spin down, and I need to restart. What's up with this ?07:34
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Link`sAdventure about verify07:34
Link`sAdventureOK, thanks.07:37
Knowerrorsnalioth_zZz: I know about bum, haven't installed it yet though, just want to know how to do it from command line or config file edit07:39
RichardCis there a way to set synaptic to only download one thing at a time?07:40
RichardCi've glanced through the options, but didnt see anything07:40
RichardCmaybe a setting i should change for apt?07:40
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RichardCwhy is so much system memory being used? all i have open is x-chat, synaptic (updating package list), and ksysguard07:47
RichardCi have 1gb of ram07:47
RichardCand 783mb of it is being used07:47
RichardCthats over double of what is used in windows07:47
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Link`sAdventureI forgot to point out earlier that the CD worked on my desktop... in fact I'm using kubuntu on it right now and it works great :)07:50
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat
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(sampan/#kubuntu) keyword search brought up two whole screenfuls worth of packages :/08:14
MonoJ0keryeah tightvncserver looks like what i want08:14
MonoJ0kerso i just sudo apt-get?08:14
sampansudo apt-get install packagename08:15
sampanassuming you've enabled the repositories08:15
MonoJ0ker"couldn't find package tightvncserver"08:15
sampanyou probably need to enable the repos08:15
sampan!repositories08:15
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:15
MonoJ0kerbash: !repositories: event not found08:16
MonoJ0keri installed firefox ok using apt-get08:16
MonoJ0kerthat means the repositories are ok?08:16
sampanread the wiki at the link ubotu posted -- you might not have universe and multiverse enabled08:17
MonoJ0kerok08:17
Link`sAdventureUhh... can I ask something (it's unrelated to kubuntu, I know.)08:18
Link`sAdventureis ubotu a bot08:18
MonoJ0kerok i don't even have the menu08:18
MonoJ0kerdo i need to logon as root?08:18
sampanmonoj0ker, it's pretty -- you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file within adept (Adept menu --> manage repositories), or with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or with kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
MonoJ0kernone of what you're saying there makes sense sorry08:19
MonoJ0keri need a total n00b guide08:19
MonoJ0keri just wanted to get vnc on here so i can get onto the linux box remotely from windows08:19
sampanit's okay.  do you have a konsole open?08:19
MonoJ0keryeah08:19
sampanand link`sadventure, yes, ubotu is a bot08:19
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MonoJ0keri need to know how to logon as root though08:20
Link`sAdventureok, just asking.08:20
Link`sAdventuretype su08:20
sampanmonoj0ker  type: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup08:20
Link`sAdventurethen your user password08:20
MonoJ0keri have set a sudo password but is the username to logon gjust "su"?08:20
MonoJ0kerok08:20
nalioth_zZzMonoJ0ker: help.ubuntu.com08:20
nalioth_zZzLink`sAdventure: dont do that08:20
sampanno need to login as root, just use sudo08:20
Link`sAdventureWhy not08:20
AoPwhen ti prompts for password after you type sudo08:20
nalioth_zZzLink`sAdventure: kubuntu uses the sudo model (kdesu for gui apps)08:20
AoPYou use your current account password08:20
Link`sAdventureah.08:20
MonoJ0kerdone sampan08:20
nalioth_zZzLink`sAdventure: a root account breaks functionality08:21
MonoJ0kerit didn't prompt for a sudo password though08:21
sampanmonoj0ker  okay, that made a backup in case something gets borked.  now in console: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
MonoJ0kerbecause i've already entered it during this session?08:21
nalioth_zZzMonoJ0ker: correct08:21
MonoJ0kerok so asking for password08:21
AoPlmfao poor nalioth_zZz never gets to sleep :P08:21
ShadymanWoot, i fixed my laptop hotkeys.08:21
MonoJ0kerneed the su pass yeah?08:21
AoPHis super linux powers are always needed =)08:21
sampanmonoj0ker  yep, put in your own password08:21
callieoh yeah, hi guys! :D08:22
sampanaop, yeah even when nalioth is zZz, he's here typing :D08:22
Shadymansampan: Yeah.08:22
MonoJ0kerok so it's come up with a kate window08:22
AoP=D08:22
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MonoJ0keronly 2 lines in the list aren't hashed08:22
MonoJ0kerdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted08:23
MonoJ0kerdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted08:23
RichardCis there a way for me to get another license key from linuxant without paying another $20?08:23
sampanmonoj0ker  okay, that will have launched a text editor with your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  go down the list of lines and in all the lines with "universe" or "multiverse" in them remove the # at the start08:23
MonoJ0kerdone08:24
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MonoJ0kersaved08:24
sampanokay, save the file and quit kate.08:24
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sampanthen in console type: sudo apt-get update08:25
MonoJ0kerdone08:25
MonoJ0kerlinux is easy when someone else is doing it :-\08:25
sampanwhen it's done downloading all the package lists, then you can type: sudo apt-get install package-name-that-you-want08:25
ShadymanHow do i make a command run when KDE loads?08:25
ShadymanWould that be considered a "Service"?08:26
MonoJ0kerok now it's installing tightvncserver08:26
kkathmanShadyman: several ways actually08:26
sampan:D08:26
kkathmanbest way is to put a symlink in your Autoplay08:26
sampanmonoj0ker  you can also search from console (instead of via web): apt-cache search search.string.to.look.for  ... or you can show the detailed info about a package with: apt-cache show package.name08:27
Shadymankkathman: Where's the Autoplay?08:27
sampanapt is the bee's knees08:27
kkathmanautostart I mean08:27
Shadymankkathman: Where's the Autostart?08:27
MonoJ0keri just can't find the program LOL08:27
kkathmanShadyman: ~/,kde/Autostart08:27
kkathmancreate a symlink and point it to there08:27
AoPkkathman:  what do I do now?08:27
Shadymankkathman: Thanks :D08:28
sampanmonoj0ker i don't know a thing about vnc. but if it's an application, very likely you can start it at console with just the name of the executable.  or via kmenu (if it put an entry there somewhere)08:28
MonoJ0kerhow do i tell if a service like vnc is running?08:29
MonoJ0kerit tried to execute but i got a fatal server error08:29
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sampanmonoj0ker  from cli you can do ps aux | grep string.to.search.for ... or you can run ksysguard and look at the process table.  sounds like vnc might need to be configured before it runs properly (and that's something i can't help at all with)08:30
MonoJ0keri can config it just need it to fire up first08:30
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MonoJ0kerbut without being logged in as root i can't access the config file can i?08:31
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sampanubuntu doesn't use "root" logins.  you just use sudo or kdesu (for GUI) when you need root-powers. and in both cases you just use your own password08:31
calliehow can i downgrade firefox 1.0.7? it seems to be really really buggy08:31
MonoJ0kerhmm08:32
MonoJ0kerso where would the tightvncserver "files" be?08:32
MonoJ0kerwhat i mean is the equivalent of the windows .exe file so i can open the application?08:33
MonoJ0keror at least the config files08:33
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Snake__MonoJ0ker: Just type the program name in the terminal08:33
MonoJ0kerseems not to work08:34
MonoJ0kersomething about path to the fonts08:34
Shadymannight guys.08:34
Snake__Do you have the fonts installed?08:34
kkathmannight Shadyman :)08:34
Snake__Night Shadyman08:34
sampannight shadyman08:34
MonoJ0kerit's looking for terminal font08:34
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Snake__Is it installed?08:34
Snake__lol08:34
MonoJ0kerFatal server error:08:34
MonoJ0kercould not open default font 'fixed'08:34
MonoJ0kersorry fixed08:35
MonoJ0keri don't know08:35
MonoJ0kerit's a brand new install08:35
Snake__MonoJ0ker: you can also press Alt+F2 and try to run the program08:35
MonoJ0keri guess not :(08:35
Snake__(Type the program name)08:35
MonoJ0kercan i see a list of fonts that are installed?08:35
Snake__Hmm08:36
Snake__not sure08:36
sampanmonoj0ker  there's very likely a simple config file that you can edit to set a font path or an installed default font -- but probably someone with some expertise with vnc would be best to help with that.  fonts are in: system settings --> font installer08:36
MonoJ0keri have vnc expertise but just need to know how to get to the config file/folder08:37
MonoJ0keri do not know where linux puts it's application files08:37
MonoJ0kerlet me google the error08:37
MonoJ0kermight give some clues08:37
sampanuncle google is good -- might ask in #ubuntu too (larger channel so maybe someone there would know) and could also search on the ubuntu forums08:38
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sampanmonoj0ker  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82548.html08:42
MonoJ0ker[17:40]  <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Yes. I ran into that issue. There is a font file that is missing a space. It breaks the whole thing. I can't remember which file, but it is like a one-line edit.08:42
sampanat the bottom of the thread is a post that might have the solution08:42
MonoJ0kerok08:43
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MonoJ0keri'll give that a try08:43
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MonoJ0kerso i open the file in kate same as before?08:43
sampanyeah -- if you get a permission denied when opening or trying to save, then start it with kdesu kate file.name08:44
sampanthat file may be owned by root or have restrictive permissions -- not sure08:44
MonoJ0kerit's open and all lines are # at the beginning08:45
MonoJ0kerdoes that seemright?08:45
RichardCif i remove konversation, synaptic says it needs to remove kubuntu-desktop. will this remove the entire package?  is it safe to remove konversation?08:45
sampanmonoj0ker  i don't know.  i'd edit the file with the fix from the forum and see if it helps.  if so, problem-solved, if not, at least you have one more piece of info08:46
sampanrichardc  kubuntu-desktop is just an empty 'meta-package' that depends on all the kde stuff and apps. removing the meta-package won't hurt08:47
RichardCalright08:47
RichardCthanks08:47
sampansure08:47
MonoJ0kerok edited and saved08:47
MonoJ0kernow when i type it at a kommand prompt it says:08:48
MonoJ0kerCreating default startup script /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup08:48
MonoJ0kerStarting applications specified in /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup08:48
MonoJ0kerLog file is /home/liam/.vnc/ross:1.log08:48
RichardCxine is a good replacement for kaffeine, right?08:48
sampanmonoj0ker seems like it's running then i would guess.08:48
MonoJ0kerok08:49
MonoJ0kerhow do i check running services/apps again?08:49
sampanrichardc  kaffeine is just the app -- xine is the decoder ... i use xine as the decoder WITHIN kaffeine08:49
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sampanmonoj0ker  you can do it GUI: find ksysguard in your kmenu or, CLI: ps aux|grep string.to.search.for08:50
MonoJ0kergot it08:50
sampan:)  oh, and one etiquette thing, try not to paste lines in here, ubuntu/kubuntu use a pastebin on the web for that08:51
sampan!pastebin08:51
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:51
MonoJ0kersorry08:51
MonoJ0kerdidn't know how many would get me a flood kick :(08:51
sampanno worries -- most people don't know :)08:51
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sampanerr, don't know until they post a bunch of lines that is ;)08:52
MonoJ0kerso all i need now is thius machine's ip08:52
sampanthe people in #ubuntu will steer you right.  just sometimes they might assume you're using gnome instead of kde ... but that's usually only a problem for GUI stuff -- if you stick to CLI, it's all pretty much the same08:53
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RichardCis there something like bum, but for kde?08:53
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sampanrichardc  i think system settings --> services ... use admin mode and you can disable/enable services at boot time.08:56
sampannot sure if that's exactly what you want/need -- but i disabled the bluetooth daemon running at boot from there08:57
RichardCthats one of the things08:57
RichardCcupsys is for printers, right?08:59
sampanyep08:59
RichardCok09:00
RichardCsampan: at bootup, it still tries to establish a network connection.  what service does this?09:01
MonoJ0kerok it says remote desktop will only work in a gnome session?09:01
sampanrichardc  i don't know to be honest.  you could google the suspicious looking ones to find out09:02
MonoJ0keranyone tell me how to start a gnome logon session?09:04
Link`sAdventuregnome-session09:05
Link`sAdventureprovided you have GNOME installed.09:05
Link`sAdventureanyway09:05
Link`sAdventureI got a problem09:05
Link`sAdventureOK09:05
Link`sAdventureI got kubuntu 64 installed09:05
callielol09:05
Link`sAdventure:D09:05
sampanmonoj0ker  to logon in gnome you would have to install ubuntu-desktop, log out and log back in (click session and choose gnome as session-type)09:05
Link`sAdventureBut09:05
Link`sAdventureIt's not letting me into KDE09:05
Link`sAdventureIt instead took me to a screen where you see the status of the bootup09:06
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Link`sAdventurelike mounting such and such, starting such and such program, ect09:06
Link`sAdventureSo I press CTRL+ALT+F409:06
Link`sAdventureer09:06
Link`sAdventureF109:06
Link`sAdventurelogin09:07
Link`sAdventuretype startx09:07
Link`sAdventurethen it returns me back to a shell09:07
Link`sAdventurehelp... !09:07
callieany error messages?09:08
kkathmanhi there callie - ltns :)09:08
calliehey  kkathman !09:08
Link`sAdventureYeah09:08
callieok, can we see it?09:08
Link`sAdventure(EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  DRTScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.09:09
callieLink`sAdventure: try to help us to help you ;)09:09
Link`sAdventure(EE) RADEON(0): XAAInit error09:09
Link`sAdventureyes.09:09
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callieok, first off, have you googled this error or looked in any forums?09:09
Link`sAdventureno, I just got it.09:10
callieok, well google away my dear fellow09:10
callieim not saying no one here will know, but it saves on the leg work and im guessing thats a pretty common issue09:10
Link`sAdventurehmm...09:11
calliewhat kind of graphics card do you have Link`sAdventure ?09:12
Link`sAdventureATi Radeon Xpress 200m09:12
calliegit09:12
Link`sAdventure?09:13
callieanyone who has a better computer than me is a git09:13
calliewhich is most people to be honest09:13
Link`sAdventureOh. >.>;09:13
callie:D09:13
Link`sAdventurewell it's nothing great09:13
Link`sAdventureit's got 128MB shared v-ram09:13
MonoJ0kerrunning gnome on kubuntu makes it pretty much ubuntu doesn't it?09:13
Link`sAdventureoh, and suprisingly google didn't turn up anything o.o;09:13
calliehmm, i've found lots09:14
Link`sAdventureThink I should go sudo apt-get install ati-drivers09:14
Link`sAdventureyeah, so did I, I used the second error >.>;09:14
calliewww.ubuntuforums.org is  wealth of info and help too09:15
sampanmonoj0ker  yes.  running kde on ubuntu makes it kubuntu (which is what i do).  the nice thing is that either way works -- you can have both installed.  i'd be surprised if vnc truly won't work on kde though -- it's probably just another config file to change -- but most likely you'll need someone with vnc (ON LINUX/KDE) expertise09:15
callieanyone here ever use Knoppix?09:18
calliethere was a great vnc package on there09:18
calliecan remember what it was called though :S09:18
Link`sAdventurewow, duesn't ati suck in linux09:19
Link`sAdventurelol09:19
kkathmancallie: I tried it briefly09:19
Link`sAdventuredoesn't^09:19
kkathmancallie its a live cd system only really09:19
Link`sAdventure:p09:19
sampanmonoj0ker  btw, here's another link for fixing that font problem (much smaller fix: only one line change in the conf file): http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Tightvnc09:19
MonoJ0kertightvnc is fixed just won't let me connect09:19
calliekkathman: yeah, i had it installed, but using it lead me to Kubuntu and confirmed my love of all things debian ;09:20
callie;)09:20
callieMonoJ0ker: maybe your problem is at the other end?09:21
kkathmancallie: yah making it a "real" linux system is rather untenable to say the least09:21
callieas i discovered kkathman09:21
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kkathmancallie: DSL is kinda cute and nice tho09:22
kkathmanworks really good on very small systems that you want to use for, say, a file or printer server09:22
callielol, thats what i run at work, although im not sure if im supposed to kkathman09:22
calliei have a pendrive with it installed on, i just cant stand using M$ i only really use it for web browsing etc09:23
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MonoJ0kerdon't think so09:23
kkathmanhaha09:23
MonoJ0keri can vnc from/to any windows machine on the network09:23
calliecool, MonoJ0ker just checking09:24
RichardChow do i add mp3 support to amaroK?09:25
RichardChmm09:25
RichardCbetter question09:25
RichardCit turns out i already have support09:26
RichardChowever, when i scanned my mp3 directory, amarok didnt add anything to its library09:26
callielol, yeah it depends on what engine you use RichardC09:26
calliei get better results using the xine engine09:27
callieRichardC: sudo apt-get install amarok-engines if you haven't already09:27
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callieRichardC: or sudo apt-get install amarok-xine if you just want to try the xine engine09:28
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calliegstreamer doesnt natively support mp3 as i recall09:28
callieand even when it does it sucked09:29
callie<----- sound engineer09:29
callie:D09:29
sampanamarok is weird for me.  some files it plays with 2% cpu and others 10-30% ... doesn't matter mp3 ogg ... and not correlated to bitrate either09:29
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calliethat is odd09:30
sampanbeep/xmms never use more than 2% to play the same files09:30
sampanand i have all the visualizations turned off in amarok09:30
sampanso weird09:30
callienever noticed that myself, im gonna take a look sampan09:31
Link`sAdventurewow this thing doesn't like my video card09:32
sampanlol k ... i only noticed it because my pc does protein folding for F@H (med research) and work-units get turned in a lot slower when non-folding apps eat a lot of cpu cycles for hours on end09:32
sampanso i started watching top a lot -- but then when amarok was being so erratic it really puzzled me09:33
Link`sAdventurenight09:33
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calliek, i need to reboot brb09:33
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penguinzdranyone live here?09:42
sampan<-- alive but not kicking and not much help09:42
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blackflaghello all09:43
penguinzdrhi blackflag09:43
blackflagcan someone tell me where I can find the kernel-source for 2.6.12-9 ?09:44
penguinzdrin adept09:44
penguinzdrsearch for "kernel-source"09:44
blackflagno it isnt in !09:44
blackflagthere is a 2.6.12-1009:44
penguinzdrhmm... i got it from adept... strange09:44
penguinzdri dunno than09:45
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blackflagis there anywhere a gui in KDE where I can edit the kernel?09:50
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calliegone an buggered it up aint i!10:00
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penguinzdri lock my screen. i move the mouse to unlock it and i enter my correct password. then, in the dialog box appears a message: unlocking failed. why?10:20
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Snake__penguinzdr: you dont know ur password10:23
Snake__:)10:23
penguinzdroh, hi snake!10:25
penguinzdrdid you get driver's license?10:25
Snake__Motorcycle10:26
Snake__Yelp10:26
penguinzdrcongrats!10:26
penguinzdrhm.. i think i know my pass...10:26
Snake__Thanks10:26
Snake__I was kidding :)10:26
penguinzdrwhen i log in, the password is correct..10:26
Snake__Hmmm I dunno man10:27
Snake__My lock doesnt work at all lol10:27
penguinzdrit's bettter than me10:29
penguinzdrtoday, i've restarted my X server because of that bug :(10:30
penguinzdr3 times restarted10:30
Snake__Hmm10:30
Snake__Stop locking?10:30
Snake__lol10:30
penguinzdrthe other bug is that my screen llocks when i click kbfx button :(10:31
Snake__kbfx...where is that button10:32
penguinzdrkbfx applet i mean10:32
penguinzdrhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2489810:32
Snake__Hmmmm dunno lol10:32
Snake__thats sick10:33
Snake__That is discusting.10:33
Snake__Im ashamed.10:33
Snake__lol10:33
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penguinzdrre10:34
Snake__[04:33]  <Snake__> thats sick10:34
Snake__[04:33]  <Snake__> That is discusting.10:34
Snake__[04:33]  <Snake__> Im ashamed.10:34
Snake__[04:33]  <Snake__> lol10:34
Snake__lol10:34
penguinzdrwhen was that?10:35
Snake__Just now when I looked at thos screeny10:35
Snake__lol10:36
penguinzdrlol in which timezone are you?10:37
Snake__eastern10:37
penguinzdri'm on eastern too!10:37
penguinzdrEET, right?10:37
Snake__EET?10:38
Snake__bbr10:38
Snake__brb*10:38
penguinzdreastern european timezone10:38
penguinzdrok10:38
Snake__Oh not EET10:38
Snake__Easter american :)10:38
Snake__lol10:38
penguinzdrlol10:39
Snake__brb10:39
penguinzdroki-doki10:39
Snake__alright10:39
Snake__Yea its like 4:40 here10:40
Snake__lol10:40
penguinzdrhere is like 11:4010:40
Snake__lol10:40
penguinzdrand in japan is.... 19:41!10:41
penguinzdrlol10:41
Snake__sydney is 8:41!10:41
Snake__lol10:41
penguinzdr8:41? am or pm?10:41
Snake__Hmm pm10:41
penguinzdrah ok10:42
Snake__I got a radio :)10:43
Snake__just got done with it tonight10:43
penguinzdrweb radio?10:43
Snake__http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/playradio.m3u10:43
Snake__of course10:43
penguinzdrwhat's the genre?10:43
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Snake__mainly rock10:43
Snake__with a bit of rap10:43
hgaahi people10:44
Snake__and other things10:44
penguinzdraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao!10:44
penguinzdrrap!10:44
penguinzdrblah!10:44
Snake__lol, only by request10:44
penguinzdrany symphonic metal?10:44
Snake__Like dimmu?10:44
Snake__or COF?10:44
hgaappl10:44
penguinzdrno, like Nightwish10:44
Snake__Oh10:44
Snake__Yes I got nightwish on there10:44
hgaaim in ma laptop10:44
Snake__few bands like that10:44
Snake__Dimmu is playin now10:45
hgaaand can i connect to internet from USB cable??10:45
penguinzdrcan i play radio in amarok?10:45
Snake__penguinzdr: I dunno, test it out for me :)10:45
Snake__hgaa: Not that I know of...10:45
hgaaand another thing10:45
penguinzdrw8 a sec...10:45
hgaaand wireless?10:45
hgaainternet?10:46
hgaacan i?10:46
hgaausing kubuntu10:46
Snake__wirelesss net?10:46
hgaayep10:46
Snake__yes but its a bitch to set up10:46
hgaakubuntu has a program for that but i cant turn on me wireless intergrated card of ma laptop10:46
hgaai think i need a driver10:46
Snake__hgaa: probly10:47
hgaabut i dont have a linux driver10:47
Snake__What kind of card10:47
penguinzdrSnake__:it works!10:47
Snake__penguinzdr: Sweetness!10:47
hgaaintergrated wireless card10:47
Snake__Enjoy :)10:47
hgaabut to turn it on10:47
Snake__hgaa: you need to know what kind so that you can get the drivers for it10:47
hgaaneed a driver10:47
hgaawhat kind10:47
hgaahmmm10:47
hgaaits says10:48
Snake__but I can't help u now, its way to early (late for me lol)10:48
hgaa802.11b/g wireless lan10:48
hgaaplzz10:48
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hgaai really need help10:48
Snake__hgaa: I would but i'm really not that good, if you can come back later, tehres a good bunch of wireless gurus that chill out in here10:49
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hgaahmm10:49
propagandhihgaa: what chipset wireless?10:49
hgaawere can i find u later anyway?10:49
Snake__In here10:50
propagandhihgaa: whats the brand/model whatever info u do have10:50
Snake__penguinzdr: this songs sweet10:50
Snake__;)10:50
hgaathe wireless card does not have a brand cuz its intregrated10:51
penguinzdrmushroomhead?10:51
propagandhihgaa: of course it has a brand10:51
propagandhiwhat model is the laptop10:51
Snake__penguinzdr: yulp10:51
hgaabut the laptop brand is Acer Aspire 300010:51
penguinzdrsounds good10:51
hgaaso?10:52
Snake__I need to figure out how to talk...lol10:52
propagandhihgaa: basically u can get the windows driver (.inf) file and use ndiswrapper to get ur wireless working10:53
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propagandhii'm looking to see what exactly the wireless is in that laptop, and then u can get its driver and install it using ndiswrapper10:54
_faboulouzhello10:54
hgaai have the windows driver10:54
hgaai have no problem with windoes10:54
_faboulouzhow i can use superkaramba?10:54
hgaathe thing is with kubuntu10:54
propagandhihgaa: did u miss everything I just said10:55
penguinzdroh disturbed10:55
propagandhiif u have the windows driver, find the .inf file it provides and copy it to kubuntu10:55
propagandhithen u can use ndiswrapper to install it In Kubuntu10:56
hgaawhats ndiswrapper?10:56
hgaasrry my noobsness10:57
propagandhiits a utility for just such the purpose as u need10:57
propagandhiu can read more about it on http://www.ndiswrapper.org10:57
propagandhi!ndiswrapper10:57
ubotundiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:57
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penguinzdrSnake__: which albums of nightwish you have?10:58
Snake__I only got a few songs10:58
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Snake__go to http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net to see all my music played on the radio10:59
penguinzdrok10:59
Snake__nightwish is under "various"10:59
hgaaguys i think i got it11:00
penguinzdrwill you play next "The Kinslayer"?11:00
Snake__Ummm hang on11:00
Snake__Lemme see if I can do it :)11:00
Snake__brb11:00
penguinzdrok11:00
hgaafound something about ndiswrapper11:00
Snake__okie dokie next song will be kinslayer11:01
penguinzdrthanls11:01
penguinzdrthanks*11:01
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hgaathax11:02
Snake__Lets hope this works11:03
propagandhihgaa: thats a broadcom wireless in that laptop right?11:03
Snake__WOO!11:03
Snake__lol11:03
Snake__I am god11:03
Snake__:)11:03
penguinzdryeah you're11:03
penguinzdrone of my favourite songs...11:03
Snake__penguinzdr: is it all cracly or does yours sound good?11:03
penguinzdrbest quality11:03
Snake__Okay11:03
hgaasee11:03
hgaayes:D11:04
hgaawhy?11:04
hgaahave good new?11:04
hgaanews*11:04
propagandhiokay, I've got USB wireless adapters that are using broadcom chipsets working so urs should work too - or at least logic would assume11:04
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hgaaar u conected from a USB?11:05
propagandhihgaa: if u dont know where the driver is on cd etc, download the driver from the acer site11:06
Snake__penguinzdr: any other requests?11:06
hgaai have the cd by my side:D11:06
penguinzdrSnake__: no11:06
propagandhihgaa: no I've installed usb wireless adapters for friends on ubuntu11:06
penguinzdrlol guys did you sawed that: http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/11:06
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hunikapenguinzdr: COOOL11:08
penguinzdrhunika: that's 31337 too: http://elgoog.rb-hosting.de/index.cgi11:08
penguinzdrif you speak bulgarian read this page: http://www.kaldata.com/forums/index.php?s=f69a28dbc105b8653a8787f73cb1cec2&showtopic=14047&pid=110819&st=0&#entry11081911:10
penguinzdrWOW! THAT'S REALLY COOL: http://www.google.com/googlegulp/11:11
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Snake__Wanna see the best?11:11
Snake__http://gizoogle.com11:11
faboulouzhow i can use superkarmba ?11:11
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Snake__faboulouz: download it11:12
Snake__faboulouz: open and run it11:12
Snake__go to kde-look.org to get some widgets for it11:12
faboulouzhow i open it ?11:12
Snake__faboulouz: Press Alt+F2 and type in Superkaramba11:12
faboulouzcommand not foun :\11:13
Snake__Do you have it installed??11:13
Snake__sudo apt-get install superkaramba11:14
faboulouzsuperkaramba is included in kde 3.5 ?11:14
Snake__faboulouz: no11:14
Snake__I dont think so11:14
Snake__penguinzdr: I love this song11:14
Snake__;)11:14
penguinzdrthanks snake!11:14
Snake__lol11:14
penguinzdrnightwish rulz!11:14
Snake__agreed11:14
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faboulouz apt-get  install superkaramba11:16
faboulouzLettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto11:16
faboulouzGenerazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto11:16
faboulouzE: Impossibile trovare superkaramba11:16
faboulouzSnake__: ?11:16
faboulouznot found11:16
Snake__Do you have your univer sources enabled?11:16
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buz!encrypted storage11:16
ubotubuz: No idea11:16
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Snake__penguinzdr: think 800 songs is enough?11:18
buzfor what11:19
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Snake__buz: are you tlaking ot me?11:19
faboulouzok, cia' cia'11:19
buzyeah i was wondering ;)11:19
Snake__my radio11:19
buzdepends, for a narrow focus it would be enough11:19
Snake__lol11:20
penguinzdrSnake__: for the radio? yes, for the beginning. i don't have radio but i have... 2399 songs11:20
Snake__Holy crap11:20
Snake__lol11:20
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penguinzdramaroKollection.html:11:21
penguinzdrTrack count  239911:21
penguinzdrAlbum count 40711:21
penguinzdrArtist count 26811:21
penguinzdrCompilation count 011:21
Snake__nice11:22
Snake__this song needs to end11:22
Snake__lol11:22
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Snake__stupid shuffle11:22
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Snake__WOO its over11:23
penguinzdryay11:23
Snake__Yay old school slipknot!!11:23
Snake__This was off their first album, only 200 of those disks exist11:23
penguinzdrah my amarok crashed11:23
Snake__lol!11:23
slow-motionhallo11:23
Snake__Your missin out on a classic11:23
penguinzdrconnecting...11:24
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penguinzdrfinaly11:25
Snake__lol11:25
penguinzdrlol dinner11:25
Snake__Sorry...running off a home line11:25
Snake__alright11:25
penguinzdrnot avril lavigne!  not avril lavigne!11:26
Snake__want me to skip?11:26
penguinzdrno, the radio is yours11:26
Snake__i hate her too ;)11:26
Snake__AHH DAMN IT11:26
Snake__HOTKEYS NOT WORKING11:26
Snake__lol11:26
penguinzdrok, skip her if you want11:26
penguinzdroh that's better11:27
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Snake__Here we go.11:27
Snake__Mudvayne :)11:27
Snake__uhhh11:27
Snake__...11:27
penguinzdrslow....11:27
Snake__...11:27
penguinzdrlol you stopped it11:27
Snake__no i didnt11:27
Snake__the song is like....not playing, but playing11:27
Snake__ARGH11:28
Snake__hold on11:28
penguinzdroh you're right11:28
Snake__there11:28
Snake__Figures11:28
Snake__now it goes11:28
Snake__I changed it now11:28
Snake__lol11:28
penguinzdrwhat software do you use for radio?11:29
Snake__Winamp + Shoutcast11:29
penguinzdrwith wine?11:29
Snake__with windows11:29
Snake__:0D11:29
penguinzdroh11:29
Snake__Yea my server has windows11:29
Snake__Sue me. Because its my gaming PC too11:29
Snake__lol11:29
crownpenguinzdr: streamtuner for searching radio, and xmms for listen.11:30
Snake__xmms for listening here11:30
crownpenguinzdr: kradio was also pretty good (simple)11:30
crownbut still not search for chanels for em11:30
penguinzdri mean, what do you use for broadcasting?11:31
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Snake__penguinzdr: I herd iceserv or something like that was good on linux11:32
penguinzdrand for windows, my sister have windows?11:32
Snake__Shoutcast seems to be the best free11:33
penguinzdrhow can i add a sidebar in the left in konqueror, that shows info for the file i click on?11:38
Snake__YOU CANT!! er11:38
penguinzdr:(((((((11:39
Snake__lol11:39
Snake__I dunno how11:39
penguinzdri mean like in windows exploder11:39
Hobbseeno, you can...11:40
Hobbseei think11:40
Snake__Hobbsee: this is linux.11:40
Snake__Where theres a free will theres a free way.11:40
penguinzdrHobbsee: then say how!11:40
Snake__:)11:41
Hobbseeimpatient, impatient...11:41
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Hobbseetry installing metabar11:41
Hobbseei had to wade through apt-cache search to find out what the program name was  :P11:41
penguinzdrbye guys11:43
penguinzdri have to go11:43
Snake__cya11:43
penguinzdrsee you11:43
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trozkihello!?11:48
Hobbseehi11:48
Snake__hi11:48
Snake__brb11:48
trozkihi11:48
trozkiaehm, ive a problem ...11:48
Hobbsee!+ask11:49
ubotuI guess ask is Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html11:49
Snake__heys guys im gonna go lay do for a bit11:49
Snake__ttyl laters11:49
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trozkii have kubuntu installed and added a new user to he freshly installed system, i droped the user in the audio group but i cant hear any sound, the xmms is running and seems to play but i cant hear anything11:51
trozkiideas ? alsa-kubuntu-howto-url?11:52
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Hobbseetrozki: ask crimsun, i think, although he's not here at the moment.  I dont remember the solution, not even how to start troubleshooting it12:07
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Drakenwat do i type in console to boot up KDE12:44
HobbseeDraken: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:46
Drakenk12:46
Drakenta12:46
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Drakenerr, anyone know how i can get my res higher then 1024x768 ?01:15
apokryphos!resolution01:16
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:16
Drakener01:22
Drakenim using kde01:22
Drakennot xwindow01:22
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Riddellkde runs on X Window01:27
apokryphosHi Riddell :). Has there been any progress on a live+install cd for dapper?01:28
Riddellapokryphos: no, kubuntu-express in the new year01:30
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apokryphosRiddell: what would that be?01:31
Riddellapokryphos: the live CD installer01:31
apokryphosoh nice01:31
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apokryphosRiddell: will ubuntu have that by default? So shipit for kubuntu?01:32
Riddellthat's the plan01:32
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apokryphoslook forward to it :)01:32
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FHXHi could someone help me? I am trying to install a theme and it asks me to copy the folder here: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but when I right click kde-hxkoh>share>apps>kdm>themes it won't let me move the folder there. Advise?02:28
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RiddellFHX: drag and drop the folder?02:39
FHXRiddell: I can't access the directory02:39
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RiddellFHX: which directory?02:40
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FHXRiddell:  ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes02:41
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FHXI put that in konsole and it doesn't work.02:41
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drakenguys02:42
FHXRiddell: I'm getting my instructions from here: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=4002:42
drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?02:42
RiddellFHX: mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes02:42
Riddellmv mytheme ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes02:42
FHXwhere do I enter that?02:43
FHXinto konsole?02:43
drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?02:43
FHXWhen I do that it says no such file or directory02:44
drakenhello ?02:45
drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?02:45
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drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?02:49
drakenhello ?02:49
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FHXDead.02:51
FHXnobody alive in here.02:52
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lascarbonjour apokryphos02:53
FHXlascar: you speak french?02:53
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FHXhxkoh@HXKoh:~$ ls /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes02:58
FHXhxkoh@HXKoh:~$ mv linux passion ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes02:58
FHXmv: cannot stat `linux': No such file or directory02:58
FHXmv: cannot stat `passion': No such file or directory02:58
FHXRiddell: That's what it says, could you please advise?02:58
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RiddellFHX: if the file is called "linux passion" is has a space in it which confuses command line stuff, you need to add quotes02:59
Riddellmv "linux passion" ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes03:00
FHXIt still says: No such file or directory03:01
Jaymacsudo mv 'linux passion'03:04
Jaymacnot ""03:04
Jaymacalthough it works too03:04
FHXJaymac: it still says: no such file or directory03:09
FHXhxkoh@HXKoh:~$ mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes03:10
FHXhxkoh@HXKoh:~$ sudo mv "linux passion" ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes03:10
FHXmv: cannot stat `linux passion': No such file or directory03:10
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hussamwhat's up folks?03:33
rednaxelbugs bunny, is that you?03:34
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hussamrednaxel: that was 'what's up doc?'03:34
rednaxelhussam, i know, but it's close enough... :-)03:35
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FHXHi all03:53
FHXit says for me to do this: Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, how do I access/edit it? I can't seem to write on it03:53
Lacertasudo kate blablabla/kdmrc03:55
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FHXLacerta: Thankyou! XD03:59
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hussamFHX: you shouldn't need sudo if the file is inside your home dir04:00
hussamjust kate ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc04:00
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FHXhussam: Hm..it tells me kate crashed and error04:00
|marty|hi all04:01
FHXkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed04:01
LacertaFHX: kill kate and try again04:01
FHXkate is killed.04:01
FHX..i don't have it open04:01
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hussamFHX: try: rm -r ~/.kde/shareapps/kate04:02
hussamthen run kate again04:02
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FHXok04:02
hussamsorry  rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate04:03
FHXNope, still can't get it to work04:03
FHXoh.04:03
hussamI forgot the /04:03
hussamshare/apps04:03
revcan someone tell me how to setup sata disks? I do not get any block device04:03
FHXstill doesn't work..04:03
LacertaFHX:  try "killall kate"04:04
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Lacertathat worked for me once04:04
FHXhxkoh@HXKoh:~$ killall kate04:04
FHXkate(8793): Operation not permitted04:04
FHXkate: no process killed04:04
hussamFHX: and don't use sudo for graphical apps, use kdesu instead04:04
hussamFHX: sudo killall kate04:04
FHXOh..okay.04:05
Lacertawhat's wrong using sudo with graphical apps?04:05
FHXhussam: That worked =)04:05
hussamLacerta: it makes files in ~/.kde/share/config owned by root instead of you04:06
Lacertayeah?04:06
FHXhussam: is there a website where I can learn all these commands? i'm not very good at them. =/04:06
FHXi think i may have one bookmarked but i'm not sure.04:07
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hussamnot sure. I usually learn stuff as I go by04:08
FHXhussam: it won't let me write it04:08
|marty|does anyone know about RootSudo04:08
chxis there any way to get back the font I was using in KDE 3.4 Konsole?04:08
FHXi'm supposed to edit/add a line & save but it tells me i can't04:08
chxI do not know what it was and whatever I try it just does fit04:08
chxdoes not fit, I mean04:08
|marty|i can sudo fine from console but not from apps04:08
|marty|i.e. admin mode04:09
hussamFHX: you can't save the kdmrc file?04:09
FHXhussam: Nope.04:09
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FHX"document could not be saved as it was not possible to write on. Please check that you have write access to this file or enough disk space is available."04:10
hussamFHX, try: sudo  chown FHX.FHX ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc04:10
hussamreplace FHX with your username04:11
FHXok04:11
hussamthen try saving04:11
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FHXchown: cannot access `/home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory04:11
FHXwhat is chown supposed to do?04:11
hussamFHX: change owner04:12
hussamFHX: maybe the file does not exist.04:12
FHXx.X04:12
hussamFHX, try: touch /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc04:12
FHXtouch: cannot touch `/home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory04:13
|marty|i cannot use admin  mode and set up my kubuntu box :'(04:13
hussamFHX: mkdir /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/04:13
hussamFHX, then: touch /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc04:14
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FHXnothing happens04:14
FHXoh04:14
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FHXyeah04:14
FHXnothing happens04:14
FHXwhat was it supposed to show?04:14
hussamit shouldn't show anything04:15
xwolf-firefox1504:15
FHXoh.04:15
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xwolf-where's the wiki bot? hoho04:15
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xwolf-how can i install firefox 1.5?04:15
FHXhussam: rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate, what was that supposed to do?04:16
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FHX(i'm trying to learn as it goes XD)04:16
hussamyes04:16
xwolf-firefox-1.5.tar.gz04:16
FHXxwolf-: isn't it preinstalled??04:17
xwolf-ubotu:  cmon baby04:17
ubotuxwolf-: Wish i knew04:17
xwolf-FHX: no, it's not04:17
FHXubotu: under kmenu>internet>firefox?04:17
ubotuFHX: I don't know04:17
FHXErgh i mean xwolf04:17
hussamFHX: ubotu is a bot04:17
FHXhussam: yeah i know i mean to type xwolf04:17
FHXXD04:17
FHXthen ubotu was in my head so that's what came out04:17
xwolf-it just says i use 'tar -xzfv firefox-1.5.tar.gz', but i don't know what to do later04:17
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hussamFHX: does kate run ow04:18
hussamxwolf: did you tar -xzvf firefox-1.5.tar.gz ?04:19
visik7is "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings" enough to get kubuntu on ubuntu ?04:19
hussamvisik7: yes04:19
visik7thanks04:19
xwolf-hussam: not in this installation, but yes on the one before this04:19
visik7hussam: any other advice ?04:19
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FHXhussam: Yes O.O04:20
anirhello04:20
hussamxwolf-: where did you extract it to?04:20
anirmy firefox browser is not working04:20
anirwith the new kernel04:20
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|marty|hi04:20
|marty|please this is my obstacle04:20
|marty|only04:20
hussamFHX: also don't sudo when you want to edit files inside ~/.kde04:21
xwolf-hussam: /home/igor/firefox04:21
FHXahh..what happens if i use sudo? it won't let me edit?04:21
FHXrm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate, did that delete all of kate's processes?04:22
hussamFHX: it deletes some of your settings for kate. ( nothing systemwide or dangerous )04:22
hussamFHX: ~ = /home/hxkoh04:23
anirhussam, can you please tell me .. why my firefox browser stops working after i download the kernel version x.x.1004:23
hussamxwolf-: what exactly do you want to do?04:24
FHXahh i see. *remembers taht stuff*04:24
xwolf-hussam: know WHAT to do after 'tar -xzfv firefox-1.5.tar.gz'04:24
xwolf-it creates a folder04:24
hussamanir: it shouldn't. can you run firefox in konsole and post the error in pastebin.com04:25
FHXAlright i'm going to test out my edit. =)04:25
hussamxwolf-: inside that folder is a shell script called firefox, run that04:25
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xwolf-hussam:  how?04:25
xwolf-open konsole there and...?04:25
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Miashi04:26
anirhussam, please join anir.. i have pasted there for your reference04:26
hussamxwolf-: browse to the folder in konqueror, do you see the firefox script, double click it04:27
thoreauputicxwolf-: ./firefox04:27
thoreauputicor that :)04:27
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xwolf-root@igor:/home/igor# ./firefox04:27
xwolf-bash: ./firefox: is a directory04:27
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xwolf-oh no, i have to enter the firefox folder ;>04:28
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xwolf-./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:29
FHXhussam: It didn't work. =( i was trying to install a theme.04:29
xwolf-hussam:  i got this error04:29
xwolf-where can i get this library?04:29
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hussamxwolf-: what's the error?04:30
visik7is there a decent irc client for kde ?04:30
xwolf-./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:30
hussamvisik7: konversation04:30
visik7hussam: oh ok04:30
FHXvisik7: I'm using konversation now. it's great. =P04:31
xwolf-this lbstdc++.so.5, i guess i'm gonna have to download it, right?04:31
thoreauputicxwolf-: sudo apt-get install libstdc++504:31
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thoreauputic!info libstdc++504:32
ubotulibstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB04:32
thoreauputicit's in main so it should install fine04:32
xwolf-ok, it's done04:32
visik7has benn ksirc suppressed ?04:32
hussamanir: try apt-get install libxt604:33
anirhussam, i have tried but i am getting another error04:33
aniri will paste in anir04:33
xwolf-now i finalize the session?04:33
thoreauputicxwolf-: ?04:33
xwolf-i have installed the library already04:33
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xwolf-now what?04:33
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thoreauputicxwolf-: well try the ./firefox again04:34
xwolf-Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:34
xwolf-Xlib: No protocol specified04:34
xwolf-(firefox-bin:27327): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:34
thoreauputicxwolf-: erm - you aren't running as root are ypu?04:34
xwolf-well, i used su after opening konsole in that firefox folder04:35
xwolf-shouldnt i?04:35
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hussamxwolf-: ya shouldn't04:35
thoreauputicxwolf-: definitely not04:36
thoreauputicxwolf-: exit  to go back to user04:36
thoreauputicor ctrl + D04:36
xwolf-ok, here's what i get, gonna translate it back to english:04:36
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xwolf-Firefox cannot install this item due to a register fail in chrome. Please, contact the author about this problem04:37
thoreauputicxwolf-: you probably have a conflict with a previous install of firefox (or an existing one)04:37
hussamxwolf-: remove the firefox folder you just extracted and start over04:37
xwolf-but it was just opened04:37
xwolf-do i need to uninstall anything?04:38
hussamit worked inspite of the error?04:38
thoreauputicxwolf-: it's all in the firefox folder04:38
JakubS_where do you file bugs against kubuntu packages?04:39
xwolf-hussam:  it opened the browser (firefox), but i closed it and now i cant find it... i will delete the firefox folder and redo my steps, ok?04:39
hussamJakubS_: bugzilla.ubutnu.com04:39
JakubS_thanks04:39
thoreauputicxwolf-: you don't need or want to do it as root04:40
thoreauputicxwolf-: if you have it in your home folder you can install as a user04:41
xwolf-i think i have a problem here... i used su before 'tar ... firefox...', so when i try to delete it in konqueror, it says access denied. and if i do rmdir, the folder has to be empty04:41
xwolf-right?04:42
thoreauputicxwolf-: sudo rm -rf firefox/04:42
xwolf-ok04:42
thoreauputicin n the directory it's in - presumably home04:42
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thoreauputicerm - /home/you04:42
xwolf-ok, folder deleted04:43
xwolf-let's start over04:43
thoreauputicxwolf-: this time just do it without root04:43
xwolf-ok04:43
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xwolf-this time was different04:45
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xwolf-i did './firefox' and it just opened... no install questions or anythinh04:45
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thoreauputicright04:46
xwolf-so, is it done?04:46
thoreauputicxwolf-: before it thought you were doing a global installation since you were root, i suppose04:46
thoreauputicyup04:46
thoreauputicxwolf-: all you need now is a launcher for it, or a menu entry04:47
xwolf-yes, i was gonna ask that04:47
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thoreauputicgive the full path like  /home/you/firefox/firefox04:47
xwolf-how do i create a desktop shortcut and menu entry in Internet? (i'm a former windows users, gimme a break)04:47
|marty|for some reason I am unable to run settings in admin mode04:47
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|marty|other people seem to be suffering the same problem04:48
|marty|but I cannot seem to fix it04:48
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thoreauputicxwolf-: too make an icon, right click the desktop and choose the option04:48
|marty|is this a bug in kubuntu04:48
thoreauputicxwolf-: there is also a kde menu editor04:48
thoreauputicxwolf-: it should be in your manu -  but I think a right click on the menu does it from memory (I'm not in KDE atm)04:49
thoreauputicxwolf-: there's probably a firefox icon in the firefox folder too - probably in a subfolder04:51
xwolf-found it04:51
thoreauputicOK - make sure you put the full path to firefox - it isn't in the default $PATH04:52
tankois it possible to start the kubuntu live cd on an ibook g4 10.3.9?04:52
xwolf-the command is set as: '/home/igor/firefox/firefox'04:52
thoreauputicxwolf-: sounds right04:53
metelliusi'm working on upgrading hoary->breezy, and somehow I've managed to uninstall kubuntu-desktop. apt-get installing it gives me a list of about ten package dependencies that supposedly 'is not going to be installed'. it seems the individual packages have dependencies on a package that does not have an installation candidate. can anyone help me?04:53
xwolf-omg04:53
xwolf-it's beautiful here04:53
xwolf-you should see it ;)04:54
thoreauputicxwolf-: working now ?04:55
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xwolf-yes, menu AND desktop shortcut04:55
NewbieatlinuxIs kubuntu good for newbies on linux?04:55
thoreauputicmetellius: first I would try   sudo apt-get -f install04:56
xwolf-Newbieatlinux: i would say yes.04:56
anirNewbieatlinux, yes very much04:56
xwolf-ur talking to a noob here04:56
thoreauputicmetellius: no arguments - just that command04:56
Newbieatlinuxgood. Can i configure so i can share internet on my server (kubuntu server)04:57
Newbieatlinux=04:57
Newbieatlinux?04:57
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thoreauputicmetellius: when you dist-upgrade sometimes you have to  sudo apt-get -f install several times if you have problems04:57
hussamhxkoh: hey04:58
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FHXhussam: Heya.04:58
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xwolf-thoreauputic: why shouldnt i install as root?04:58
FHXI still can't get the blasted theme to work. in my attempt to improve my lousy understanding of linux i'm reading an online tutorial. XD04:58
metelliusthoreauputic: i have done that a few times already. it ends in 0, 0, 0, and 1 not upgraded04:58
justanotherhey guys04:59
justanotheri have a problem setting up w-lan with kubuntu04:59
thoreauputicxwolf-: in this case, you are just installing in your home dir - you don't need root to do that04:59
justanotheralthough it sees the w-lan it doesn't connect...04:59
thoreauputicxwolf-: and as you saw, it mucks up the permssions04:59
hussamFHX: kdm theme?05:00
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xwolf-oh, i see05:00
xwolf-next step is installing xchat... let me look for something05:00
NewbieatlinuxCan i share my internet on kubuntu?05:00
thoreauputicxwolf-: xchat is just  sudo apt-get install xchat   :)05:00
hussamFHX: kdm theme?05:00
FHXhussam: Yep, kdm theme05:00
thoreauputicNewbieatlinux: of course05:01
xwolf-oh, ok05:01
justanotheri set the ip addresses, standard-gateway, dns-server but i can't connect to the w-lan and internet05:01
Newbieatlinuxthoreauputic goood:D05:01
justanotherso booted windows ;(05:01
thoreauputicNewbieatlinux: you can install guidedog and guarddog to make a NAT and firewall - or firestarter which does both05:01
FHXhussam: Just curious, how do i log into my root account?05:01
xwolf-how do i go to the parent folder from the one i'm at? (equivalent to cd.. in windows)05:01
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thoreauputicxwolf-: same05:02
Newbieatlinuxthoreauputic okey, were do i find it? Is it easy to find in kubuntu05:02
stefanoFHX: you are not allowed to log on with root05:02
thoreauputicxwolf-:  you need a space :)05:02
Newbieatlinuxim installing now :D05:02
hussamFHX: I have a kubuntu deb for kdm theme manager if you want05:02
stefanouboto: tell FHX about root05:02
xwolf-ok05:02
thoreauputicNewbieatlinux: do you know about adept and packages and how installs are done in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?05:02
hussamFHX: that'll let you easily change kdm themes05:03
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thoreauputic!tell Newbieatlinux about repos05:03
xwolf-off to lunch now05:03
thoreauputic!tell Newbieatlinux about docs05:03
hussamFHX: do you want it?05:03
FHXhussam: Um..do I? is it dangerous?05:04
anirhussam, bye bye05:04
thoreauputicNewbieatlinux: you should also read  http://help.ubuntu.com05:04
hussamFHX: nope05:04
FHXhussam: Hm..I guess i'll steer away from it. for now i need to figure out how to install a theme. *feels loser-ish* XD05:05
|marty|is there a reason no-one wants to speak to me - no offence - just so i know i am not breaking any protocol or should I not expect to get spoken to so soon05:05
hussamFHX: look here www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2212005:05
stefanomarty: did you say anything before?05:06
hussamFHX: that's the one I was telling you about05:06
|marty|yes05:06
stefanoi dont see it05:06
thoreauputic|marty|: sorry :) I was busy -  have you tried running kcontrol with kdesu ?05:06
FHXO_O05:06
stefanoah i c05:06
FHX*faints*05:06
FHXIt'll make life easier05:07
|marty|yes the problem seems to be gui apps running in admin mode05:07
thoreauputic|marty|: try  kdesu kcontrol05:07
hussamFHX: it lets you install kdm themes05:07
|marty|ok05:07
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FHXYou don't have permission to access /files/kdmtheme/kdmtheme-0.9.2_0.9.2-1_i386.deb on this server.05:07
FHXApache Server at beta.smileaf.org Port 8005:07
stefanoi'd recomment kdesu systemsettings05:07
FHXit won't let me download it.05:07
FHXT_T05:07
thoreauputic|marty|: in general you should not run GUI apps with root privileges05:07
stefanowhy?05:07
|marty|sure05:07
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stefanoi do this quite often05:08
|marty|i understand this but the problem was this... when I first installed kubuntu my resolution was only 800x60005:08
hussamFHX: brb, I have to reboot05:08
thoreauputicstefano: because it is insecure and you also run the risk of locking ~/.ICEauthority :)05:08
stefanowhat?05:08
thoreauputicstefano: you SHOULD NOT run GUI apps as root05:08
stefanowhy is it insecure?05:08
FHXok05:09
|marty|so I wanted to get a decent resolution05:09
thoreauputicstefano: 30 years of unix says running as root is bad05:09
|marty|I found sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:09
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thoreauputicstefano: it leaves you as open to exploits as if you were running windows05:09
stefanoman, thoreauputic: if you cant give me a good reasom, or a worst-case scenario, i will go on using kate as root for config.05:09
thoreauputicalmost05:09
thoreauputicstefano: it's OK to run an editor that way :)05:10
stefanoyes, i mean i dont log on as root05:10
thoreauputicstefano: you can use kdesu kate for instance05:10
stefanoi know that05:10
stefanoyes05:10
stefanothats what i do05:10
thoreauputicstefano: OK :)05:10
stefanolol we misunderstood each other05:10
thoreauputicstefano: yes :)05:10
stefanoawe time for lunch05:11
stefanosee you guyss05:11
stefanohave a nice day :)05:11
|marty|bye05:11
|marty|i have looked through the logs05:11
FHXdo i type: make install ? (after make)05:11
|marty|Dec 30 14:08:10 localhost sudo:    neilc : TTY=pts/5 ; PWD=/home/neilc ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/kdesu_stub -05:12
|marty|Dec 30 14:08:19 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/4 ruser= rhost=  user=neilc05:12
FHXor is there something before the words "make install"05:12
|marty|I get anm authentication failure05:12
thoreauputic!tell |marty| about fixresolution05:12
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FHXdo i do: sudo make install, sud-c make install, or make install?05:13
FHXXD05:13
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|marty|well I fixed the resolution and then after that it was all ok05:13
FHXhussam: Hm..what command comes after "make"?05:13
thoreauputic!fixres05:13
ubotu[fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:13
|marty|then I tried using admin mode in a gui05:13
hussamsudo make install05:14
FHXTy ^^05:14
thoreauputic|marty|: have a look at ubotu's URL above05:14
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|marty|I fixed the resolution05:14
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eleduhi...05:14
hussamare you trying to compile it?05:14
eleduhi just one quick noob question05:14
FHXYup, trying to compile05:15
FHXi just finished sudo make install.05:15
FHXHm..not sure how to access it. alt+f2 +?05:15
eleduhow to show my ubuntu version?05:15
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hussamFHX: kdesu kcontrol05:15
thoreauputiceledu:  lsb_release -a05:16
hussamunder system administration05:16
eleduthxs05:16
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kruemmelhey05:17
kruemmelive got a question05:17
kruemmeli get into the internet with "pon dsl-provider"05:18
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FHXhussam: I found it, but when I click install new theme it won't show me my .tar.gz, it only allows me to access a folder called /root which has nothing in it to install. o.o05:18
kruemmelbut after every restart, i have to run "pppoeconf", after that, the "pon dsl-provider" does work05:18
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kruemmelplease, help me05:20
hussamFHX: doesn;t it let you navigate out of root?05:20
FHXhussam: Nope, won't let me.05:21
kruemmel??05:21
nicholas1520i have a  question: i installed apache, php and such with the synaptic package manager and the directory for the apache interface is: /var/www/ now and that part belongs to root and obviously i can't write any data to there and i have no idea what password the root account uses or even how to login to it.05:22
hussamFHX: give me a second. I'm making a new package for kdmtheme. Once I install it, I'll try it and tell you05:22
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FHXOkie05:22
thoreauputic!tell nicholas1520 about root05:23
FHXx.x sorry for all the trouble.05:23
nicholas1520yay05:23
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xwolf-what's the opt dir for?05:25
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thoreauputicxwolf-: you can install things there - but I prefer to install extra/ non-ubuntu stuff in /usr/local05:26
hussamFHX: works for me :(05:26
thoreauputicI bever use /opt myself05:26
thoreauputics/bever/never05:26
xwolf-perl :D05:27
thoreauputicxwolf-: perl is in the repos and it also should be installed by default05:27
thoreauputicAFAIK05:27
xwolf-no, i wont install perl, just recognized the s/wrong/right05:28
thoreauputicah I see :)05:28
xwolf-but i might as well install php, apache and mysql05:28
FHXhussam: Hm..i closed it and restarted it and it works again, but which file is it exactly that it is look for ? o.o05:28
hussamFHX: not sure, maybe a .theme or .tar.gz file05:29
xwolf-let me change to xchat, hang on05:30
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FHXhussam: Oh..I just noticed. it's a different sort of theme i was talking about. =( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2872405:30
hussamFHX: that should work05:31
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FHXon themes manager?05:32
xwolf-there i go, in xchat ;)05:32
hussamyep05:32
FHXbut isn't themes manager for themes? the one i was looking at is for the login screen05:33
hussamkdm themes are login screen themes05:33
FHXoh.05:33
hussamyou are mistaking kde themes with kdm themes05:33
FHXhm...so can theme manager take kdm themes?05:34
FHXor kde only?05:34
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udomsakhi all05:35
hussamkdm theme manager you just compiled takes kdm (login) themes05:35
FHXomg. *feels stupid* I SEE THE LIGHT05:36
FHXXD05:36
udomsakWhy I press 'Apply buttion' to change keyboard switch group it no effect  ?05:36
udomsakI Gnome it suddenly05:36
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udomsakIn Gnome it suddenly05:36
hussamFHX: ok good luck, I gotta leave now05:36
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y_o_uhello all. total linux/kde/kubuntu n00b here. trying to install baghira on kubuntu 5.10 and where you download the file it says "Baghira is allready part of the Official Debian Archive, so you can just apt-get install it from Sid." what does that mean, in n00b speak?05:58
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newbieonlinuxWhy cant I login as user manager (root) in kubuntu?06:00
nicholas1520you know thats my same question06:06
xwolf-kubuntu doesnt trust us :D06:06
nicholas1520tru06:06
newbieonlinuxbut how ?06:06
newbieonlinuxanyone must know06:06
nicholas1520simple. it doesn't like us.06:07
xwolf-run kuser and check out those settings06:07
nicholas1520it is evil..06:07
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nicholas1520evil.06:07
xwolf-perhaps there's something there06:07
newbieonlinuxxwolf- kuser?06:07
newbieonlinuxwhat is that.p06:07
xwolf-yes06:07
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nicholas1520how to "start" or something kuser? im a professional n00b :P06:07
xwolf-hoho, you are just a step to go from me (it's been 3 hours using kub already haha)06:08
xwolf-go to K MENU > Run Command06:08
xwolf-then type kuser06:08
Setkubuntu owns06:08
xwolf-afk06:09
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jahshua--can anyone please explain to me what these two commands will do06:12
jahshua--sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror06:12
jahshua--sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc06:12
Anth0ny_Can anyone help me how to make Konquer show file-indexes in text-view (Persistent)06:13
newbieonlinuxI got Cannot conversate with su kde06:13
Setthe first one will delete that file06:13
Setthe second will copy06:14
newbieonlinuxwhy+06:14
Anth0ny_everytime I logoff, the the file index is shown with huge icons06:14
newbieonlinuxSet do u know. I want to run in root (but in the dekstop)06:14
Setwe're in kubuntu06:14
Setdunno. ask someone else. I use debian and Xandros06:14
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nicholas1520now06:15
nicholas1520if i want to umm run something as root06:15
nicholas1520liek just chmod a damn folder lol06:15
Setsudo06:15
nicholas1520it hates me.06:15
Setor runas06:15
nicholas1520gives me operation denied all the time06:15
jahshua--can anyone tell me ?06:16
Setare your user in the sudo list?06:16
nicholas1520runas?06:16
Setjahshua--, I did06:16
nicholas1520yup06:16
Setrun as06:16
Setsu06:16
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jahshua--Set: what changes does that make to the Kubuntu default ?06:17
SetI don't know. I'm a newb myself. ask them who told you to write that06:18
Setit has something to do with konqueror. are you troubleshooting it?06:18
Setprobably a settings file06:19
jahshua--nah its on kubuntu.org06:19
jahshua--hehe06:19
Seta wild guess is that you remove the default profile for konqueror and adds in a new profile for default06:19
jahshua--thanks tho06:19
jahshua--:)06:19
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Setlink me plz. I wanna learn aswell06:20
_thumper_Hi all, quick question, how many people here are learning C++ or would like to learn more C++?06:20
jahshua--k06:20
jahshua--http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php06:21
jahshua--its under06:21
jahshua--How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?06:21
SetI was right06:21
Setwohoo for me06:21
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newbieonlinuxSet how i be user in sudo list?06:21
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Setyou remove the Kubuntu profile and add in the KDE default06:21
newbieonlinuxSet how i do that?06:22
Setnewbieonlinux, the user you made when you installed should be a sudoer06:22
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Setnewbieonlinux, that was for jahshua--06:22
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newbieonlinuxSet i have done it but its says Converse with Su failed06:22
newbieonlinuxSet i must be root in my dekstop06:22
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Setnewbieonlinux, http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowmoresudoers06:23
jahshua--what im wondering is, what does the KDE default look like i guess06:23
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Sethttp://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome that's for ubuntu, not kubuntu.06:24
Setnewbieonlinux, sorry that I can't help you. I use sudo06:27
AoPI use sudo to06:27
xwolf-how do i set url double-clicks in xchat to be opened with firefox?06:27
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Setxwolf-, try settings and helper applications. or something. I use konversation06:29
newbieonlinuxSet what they mean with system_username ?06:29
newbieonlinuxwhat should i take instead06:29
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newtolinuxI donno06:30
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Setnewbieonlinux, you're better off with asking in open, than directly to me. I've only tried kubuntu for like 1 day, and I spent that day getting wifi working06:32
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mad_manwhat is your problem newbieonlinux ?06:33
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Anth0ny_how do I show the actual up/download-speed on my NIC?06:43
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kkathmanAnth0ny_: I'd suggest loggin to www.dslreports.com and choosing the "tools" on the left and follow the instructions for the speed test06:44
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Anth0ny_isn't there any way to do it with ifconfig?06:45
mcscruffis there any swf to 3gp converstion software for linux?06:47
kkathmanAnth0ny_: your hardware is a set speed actually - but what its hooked up to is totally different06:48
thoreauputicAnth0ny_: or install bmon ( bandwidth monitor)06:48
Anth0ny_okay06:48
kkathmanAnth0ny_: the speed on the card is at the speed of light, but your internal connection to your network, your ISP, etc is the real test06:48
kkathmanifconfig only gives you connection info basically06:49
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Anth0ny_bmon was exactly what I was looking for06:49
Anth0ny_someone I uploading to me right now, and now I am able to se his current upload-speed06:50
Anth0ny_thanks06:50
Anth0ny_isn't there somekind of a tool that can be used inside Gnome/KDE?06:52
Anth0ny_netmon?06:52
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epphow can i speed up my linux?06:55
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Chousukeepp: In many ways. Why?06:56
ChousukeIs it abnormally slow?06:56
eppim running a 800mhz, 512mb ram, 8mb videocard.06:57
ChousukeThat should be enough to run it quite well.06:57
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ChousukeThere's no magical switch to speed it up significantly, unless there's a configuration error somewhere.06:59
hussamepp: that's actually a good system. I'm getting by with only 384MB ram.07:01
eppyeah... but apps are slow slow to boot up...07:01
thoreauputicturning off eye candy is a good place to start07:01
thoreauputicepp: which apps ?07:01
Chousukeepp: The HD is a limiting factor07:01
eppplus my video card sucks soo bad that, videos are all choppy.07:01
Chousukeepp: make sure DMA is enabled07:02
thoreauputicepp: that's probably a DMA issue07:02
eppyeah, last time i ran linux i did something to speed it up.07:02
thoreauputic!dma07:02
Chousukeit makes a _huge_ difference.07:02
hussameye candy makes a difference especially with a 8MB ram vga07:02
eppis that in bios?07:02
Chousukenah07:02
thoreauputic!tell epp`about dma07:02
bhnaepp: edit your /etc/hdparm07:03
thoreauputicag typo07:03
Anth0ny_!tell Anth0ny_ about dma07:03
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thoreauputic!tell epp about dma07:03
bhna!dma07:03
epphaha07:03
thoreauputicthat factoid is too long :(07:03
thoreauputicbhna: the factoid is too long so it gets diverted to /msg07:04
epphow do i turn off eyecandy? themes?07:08
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thoreauputicepp: I would run kcontrol and turn off tool tip bubble etc there07:08
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thoreauputichmm - maybe you can do that from the kicker with a right click, - I'm not in KDE atm07:09
thoreauputicit's all in the control centre anyway...07:10
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eppwhat theme should i pick?07:14
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kkathmanthoreauputic:  greetings :)07:19
kkathmanhey hussam :)07:19
thoreauputickkathman: hi :)07:19
thoreauputicepp: just experiment and see07:20
thoreauputicepp: you can always change it back07:20
kkathmank_menu -- system settings07:20
kkathmannew KDE users should live there for the first 72 hours07:20
epphow can i add music to amarok from another computer? like mounting it to a folder?07:21
eppor is there a place that shows all network computers?07:21
kkathmanKonqueror07:21
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kkathmanbut if your music is, say on a windows box, you'll need to setup samba probably07:22
jahshua--ok so i did sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror07:22
jahshua--sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc07:22
jahshua--but nothing has changed07:22
eppyeah it works....07:22
eppkkathman, smb://mainpc shows me what i want... but how do i get it to amarok?07:23
kkathmanjahshua--: what are you trying to do?07:23
jahshua--on the kubuntu FAQ it says Kubuntu Breezy comes with a simplified Konqueror profile to make things more use friendly compared to default KDE.07:24
jahshua--To get back to the default KDE profiles:07:24
kkathmanepp: I dont use amarok, but I assume you should be able to open the samba folders using smb://07:24
jahshua--then those two commands07:24
eppk07:24
thoreauputicjahshua--: you copied it with sudo so it now has root permissions - you'll need to chown -R to your user I think07:24
eppcan i mount them?07:24
jahshua--thoreaupeutic how do i do that07:25
kkathmanjahshua--: you could always just rename your .kde folder and restart  - that would keep your current settings and start anew...or in system settings there is a setting on most things to "reset"07:25
thoreauputichmm chown user:user filename would do in that case I think07:25
thoreauputicwith sudo07:25
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jahshua--what do  put for user file name07:25
eppk... sorry i was adding media the wrong way... there is a folder called network, lol may bad.07:25
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jahshua--thats all the instructions give on the site07:26
jahshua--why dont they explain the rest07:26
thoreauputicjahshua--: your user name :)07:26
reonHi07:26
kkathmanthoreauputic: good answer dude07:26
kkathmanhi reon07:26
thoreauputicjahshua--: and the file concerned07:26
reonWhat file holds the NTP time server information ?07:26
jahshua--file?07:26
jahshua--this is for the kde settings07:26
jahshua--not a file07:26
thoreauputic*sigh*07:26
jahshua--man im confused :/07:27
kkathmanreon not sure, but the ntp main page should tell you07:27
thoreauputicjahshua--: ah sorry I thought you were copying to your home dir - ignore me07:28
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kkathmanreon check out man ntp  also07:28
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visik7hi07:28
jahshua--ok so what should i do now ?07:28
jahshua--:/07:28
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reonwhat ntp main page ? According to the debian docs it is stored in /etc/ntp.conf but i cannot find that in kubuntu07:28
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reonno man entry for ntp...07:29
kkathmanreon if there isnt a conf file then either a) create one  or b) run the configuration process (whatever it is)07:29
thoreauputicreon: ntpdate07:29
kkathmanthanx thoreauputic :)07:29
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jahshua--anyone?07:30
visik7I've apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but konqueror icons are missing07:30
visik7what's wrong ???07:30
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kkathmanjahshua--: Im lost as to what you are trying to do07:30
jahshua--http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php07:31
jahshua--its there under How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?07:32
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Deterministis there any way to remove all the default colour schemes and windecos that come with KDE?07:33
thoreauputicDeterminist: yes, run fluxbox instead ;)07:35
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Deterministlol07:36
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Deterministno, seriously, under gnome you can remove gnome-themes and the other crap that comes by default with it, is there nothing similar in kde?07:36
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thoreauputicbye everyone :)07:37
jahshua--kkathman can you help me ?07:37
jahshua--ok bye07:37
jahshua--thereauputic07:37
kkathmanDeterminist: k-menu, systemsettings07:37
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kkathmanyou can remove about anything you wish07:37
jahshua--:|07:38
reonAnybody know of a good font guide for Kubuntu. The Gnome guides dont work to hot for KDE ?07:38
Deterministkkathman: nope, wont let me remove the default ones07:39
kkathmanDeterminist: why exactly are you trying to remove them?07:39
Deterministkkathman: because i see no reason for them to exist.07:39
kkathmanthen you shouldnt be running KDE, as thoropeutic indicated07:40
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Deterministthat makes no sense :P07:40
kkathmango back to gnome...KDE has themes and such for the added capability for choice and so-called "eye candy" if you will07:40
_arafathow can i disable dhcp on bootup? I do not want to press "strg + c" every time when it waits for an dhcp offer...07:41
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eppok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?07:41
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kkathman_arafat: change your connection from DHCP to static perhaps?07:42
jahshua--kkathman can you help me ?07:42
jahshua--please07:42
kkathmanI'll try...but I got lost with exactly what you are trying to do07:43
arafatkkathman: well, when i plug a cable into my notebook i want to have a dhcp offer...but not before!07:43
arafatlike in windows...:-)07:43
Deterministkkathman: is there any way to know if a file on the system belongs to any package?07:43
jahshua--did you see the link i left07:43
jahshua--http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php07:43
jahshua--its there under How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?07:43
eppok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?07:44
kkathmanjahshua--: sounds like you are trying to get back to the profiles you had in hoary maybe?07:45
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kkathmanDeterminist: Im not aware of a single command that tests a file to see if its in a package07:45
arafatDeterminist: try apt-file07:45
jahshua--well i did the commands that they have on there and nothing has happened07:46
leafwhow come kvim is not available for breezy ? What is the proper substitue for it (there are several listed: vim-tcl vim-python vim-perl vim-gtk vim-gnome )07:46
jahshua--im just wondering if everything is ok now07:46
naliothDeterminist: install and update apt-file. after that, run apt-file search $STRING07:47
Deterministnalioth: k mate, thanks07:47
epp?07:47
kkathmannalioth:  thanks07:47
kkathmannalioth is king of the CLI07:47
eppwhere is the samba f9older located on the fs?07:48
kkathmanjahshua--: if you are trying to reset Konq to the hoary config thats pretty well documented07:48
kkathmanjahshua--: Not sure this is what you want but here's a reference:  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/160307:50
kkathmanepp: samba isnt a folder, its a protocol07:51
kkathmanwell, there IS a samba folder (several in fact) but its a protocol07:51
eppkkathman, then how do i get to remote computers from just a base fs?07:51
jahshua--ok all i want to know is i did these two commands07:52
jahshua--sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror07:52
jahshua--then i did07:52
kkathmanepp: you set up samba and they are accessible via the smb://07:52
jahshua--sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc07:52
jahshua--so, nothing changed, but im worried i messed something up maybe07:52
eppkkathman, all amarok shows it a base fs. or i would just type that in.07:52
kkathmanjahshua--: did you stop and start Konq ?07:52
arafatkkathman: just in case you're interested: you can disable dhcp offers during bootup in /etc/network/interfaces!07:52
kkathmanepp did you try typing the smb(colon backslash) ??07:53
kkathmanarafat: thanx...good info to know07:53
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eppthaere is no place to type... its a dropdown box07:53
jahshua--no i didnt07:53
kkathmanepp maybe someone who uses amarok more can tell you...I dont use it07:54
jahshua--i dont have it running, just an icon in the tray07:54
jahshua--thats all07:54
kkathmankaffeine does allow that tho07:54
jahshua--i opened it, but it was the same07:54
zenlunatichow do you mamke your screen brighter?07:54
eppwelll some guy just told me to use sambafs and mount the computer to the local filesystem.07:55
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sambagirlanyone know where i can find history for mozilla? i dont see it on the toolbar07:59
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Rubemhi08:07
Rubemcan I add a "Clear Workspace" button to the bar?08:07
kkathmansorry had to step away a moment08:07
jahshua--how do i stop and start Konq08:08
kkathmanjahshua--: close it down and restart :)08:08
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rubemooops... back08:08
jahshua--well08:08
jahshua--i mean08:08
rubemcan i add a "clear workspace" button?08:08
jahshua--i didnt have it open08:08
jahshua--since i did that08:08
jahshua--then i opened it08:09
kkathmanjahshua--: dont have any ideas then, cuz that worked like a champ for me08:09
kkathmannow...you wont notice any "difference" unless you go to the menus08:09
kkathmanthe menus are what changed08:09
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julienhello08:10
jahshua--ok when i did sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc08:10
jahshua--nothing happened08:10
jahshua--in console08:10
jahshua--is that correct08:10
jahshua--like there as no text or anything08:10
kkathmanyep08:10
jahshua--k08:11
kkathmanthats a simple copy08:11
kkathmancp = copy08:11
jahshua--right08:11
jahshua--ok thanks kkathman08:11
kkathmannp08:11
kkathmanjahshua--: wait...you know what might have happened08:12
kkathmandid you rename that destination file before you did that cp ??08:12
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jahshua--no08:13
kkathmanjahshua--: you needed to have renamed the /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc08:13
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kkathmanthen did that cp command08:13
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jahshua--how can i do that08:13
rubemcan i add a "clear workspace" button?08:13
kkathmanalthough you did it at root08:13
jahshua--i need to rename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc   ?08:14
kkathmanhold a moment jahshua--08:14
jahshua--k08:14
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kkathmanjahshua--: just for grins, rename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqeror.rc.back08:18
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kkathmanthen do your cp again08:18
jahshua--can you show me what to type08:19
jahshua--cause i dont know :/08:19
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kkathmanjahshua--: I just did08:19
jahshua--ok08:19
kkathmanrename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqeror.rc.back08:19
jahshua--first : same line ?08:20
jahshua--k08:20
kkathmanwe're just renaming the destimation file so you can cp to a clean file08:20
jahshua--Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share" (Missing operator before hare?)08:20
jahshua--syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"08:20
kkathman?08:21
jahshua--thats what it returned08:21
jahshua--when i did that08:21
kkathmanhmmm08:21
kkathmanohh wait08:21
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kkathmandang it...my bad08:21
jahshua--hehe08:21
kkathmaninstead of rename use mv08:21
kkathmanduh08:21
jahshua--k08:21
kkathmanrename is for multiple files08:21
jahshua--cannot move permission denied08:22
jahshua--do i need to sudo08:22
kkathmanyah08:22
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kkathmanthen do the sudo cp........  as before08:22
jahshua--k08:22
jahshua--ok08:23
jahshua--done08:23
jahshua--hmm08:23
jahshua--konq still looks the same :p08:23
jahshua--hehe08:23
jahshua--hmmmmmm08:23
jahshua--sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc08:24
jahshua--yeh?08:24
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rubemhow can a make a read-only file writable?08:26
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OuaaaahhhHello08:30
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kkathmanrubem: check its permissions first08:32
OuaaaahhhWith Konqueror How can I go to the / root directory ?08:32
kkathmanrubem there may be a reason its read only :)08:32
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OuaaaahhhI want to access /tmp08:32
Ouaaaahhhwith konqueror08:32
kkathmanOuaaaahhh: just type /08:33
seth_k|lappyOuaaaahhh, just type /tmp in08:33
kkathmanin the addie line08:33
OuaaaahhhAh !! Yes Thanks you08:33
jahshua--kkathamn is that the correct thing to copy ?08:33
jahshua--sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc08:33
kkathmanyes08:33
jahshua--hmm08:33
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jahshua--nothing changed :/08:34
kkathmanjah check your menu08:34
jahshua--hmm ok well when i click konq its the same08:35
jahshua--but the system has changed08:35
jahshua--like the system icon08:35
kkathmanthe konq itself wont change really08:35
jahshua--ok08:35
kkathmanif you want to make changes08:35
kkathmanyou configure your output, then do a "save as" under tools08:36
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jahshua--ok08:40
jahshua--do you use gnome ?08:40
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hussamhey folks, I'm using kde 3.4.3 . Anybody using kde 3.5.0 can help check if something is a bug?08:44
hussamI mean if it fixed in kde 3.5.008:44
hussamThe bug is in konqueror. Firefox 1.0.7 had the same bug but they fixed it in 1.508:45
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seth_k|lappyhussam, i'm on 3.5.0, what's up08:47
hussamseth_k|lappy: it's actually a silly bug. 1. open konqueror to any page. 2. place the mouse over a link , the mouse pointer will show the little hand on the link08:48
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papahi08:49
chemaHow to play dvd in kubuntu?08:49
kkathmanchema: kaffeine08:50
hussamseth_k|lappy: now using the scroll mouse wheel, scroll down without moving the mouse ( just roll the wheel )08:50
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chemaNot play, I need any codec?08:50
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papai don't know08:50
seth_k|lappyhussam, the cursor changes back to the pointer (doesn't remain as a hand)08:50
hussamseth_k|lappy: the mouse button will still show the little hand even if there is no link under the pointer,08:51
seth_k|lappyfixed then :)08:51
hussamseth_k|lappy: good because in kde 3.4.3, it stay a hand untill I move the pointer.08:51
hussamseth_k|lappy: ok thanks for the help08:52
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seth_k|lappynp hussam08:52
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[Relic] what file am I looking for to change the huge font in java to something that is compatible with the current theme/appearance I am using?08:54
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jahshua--kkathman: do you use gnome ?08:55
seth_k|lappyin "java"? In a program that runs using Java, [Relic]  ?08:55
kkathmanjahshua--: no sir ... KDE08:55
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[Relic] either mozilla, the default root theme, or the java config are my best guess but I am not sure which is making the huge text08:56
[Relic] not sure which files to look to edit either08:56
gnomefreakis there any known issues with kubuntu-desktop 3.5 and apps like kdevelop3?08:57
[Relic] I know this current java application has been using smaller text before so I am sure I can change it because it had the normally smaller text in the last install of kubuntu, I am just not sure ion this one08:57
jahshua--kkathman isnt KDE .. konqueror ?08:59
jahshua--or part of it08:59
jahshua--heh08:59
kkathmanjahshua--: no08:59
kkathmanKDE is a desktop manager like fluxbox, xfce, gnome, etc09:00
kkathmanKonqueror is a KDE application09:00
jahshua--ok right09:00
gnomefreakkonqueror is a web browser for kde desktop09:00
Deterministjust installed kwin-baghira, opened the windec prefs and most of them are off screen, anything i can do about it?09:01
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jahshua--is xfce easy to use ?09:12
naliothjahshua--: sure it is.09:13
naliothjahshua--: install xubuntu-desktop and see for yourself09:13
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jahshua--ok09:16
jahshua--xubuntu yeh?09:16
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kkathmanjahshua--: xubuntu is very good for smaller systems...not nearly the overhead of KDE, but still reasonably configurable09:20
naliothjahshua--: and if you have  high-horsepower box, it'll speed it up so you'll need a seat belt09:21
[Relic] what is the easiest way to make root access have the same theme/appearance that my current settings have?09:24
jahshua--ok so should i just search xubuntu on adept ?09:24
jahshua--is that the best way09:24
nalioth[Relic] : you shouldn't be using 'root' things enough to be bothered09:25
naliothjahshua--: xubuntu-desktop09:25
kkathmanjahshua--: no, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:25
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[Relic] but I am thinking the defaults for java were set up in root so if I can match what I am using to root I could actually have the proper font sizes and then I could actually used adpet since I wouldn't have that hideous blaring white background09:26
kkathmanjahshua--: then simply log out, and then at the splash screen click the sessions at the bottom left, and select xubuntu09:27
kkathmanjahshua--: most apps will be gnome based, but since you have KDE you can still run KDE apps :)09:27
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jahshua--oh thats great thanks alot kkathman :D09:33
jahshua--i have two more questions, easy ones :)09:34
jahshua--how many desktops are available for kubuntu09:34
jahshua--and i have already installed Gnome, but now i have all the Gnome appas in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome09:35
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eppamarok wont play any sound... but i get system sounds...09:39
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hunikahello09:42
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kkathmanepp you might need to install a different engine09:42
hunikaI would like to ask a simple question09:43
kkathmanlike the xine one09:43
eppyeah... i did...09:43
kkathmango ahead hunika09:43
xagHi09:43
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hunikaCan I have all the avaible packages for  ubuntu on cd?09:43
eppI installed the xine one and it still doesnt work.09:43
hunikakkathman: ?09:43
kkathmanhunika well I suppose you could if they fit...theres like 1700009:43
Xag_I have a problem setting up kmail and courier-imap, I can not create new subfolder, does anyone can help?09:43
kkathmanhunika do you want to install from there?09:44
hunikakkathman: I mean the basic ones because Fedora / Suse ships with 5 cd's09:44
hunikakkathman: in order to not to use net09:44
kkathmanhunika I suppose you could09:44
eppkkathman, my video is wokring off the xine engine...09:44
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jahshua--i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome09:44
hunikakkathman: to have xine, gimp, and so on09:44
hunikakkathman: w32codecs09:44
kkathmanhunika you'd neet to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to install from CD tho09:45
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hunikakkathman: but i can not download cd images09:45
masecan someone help me? im trying to auto mount my xp drive through fstab, but with read only permission to any user so i can play mp3s on that drive..09:45
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kkathmanhunika ohhh I see09:45
RichardChey guys09:45
kkathmanyou mean can you actually GET a CD set of all the packages from Ubuntu?09:45
mweis it somehow possible to change titlebar icon of an application?09:46
hunikakkathman: yes09:46
hunikakkathman: that is what i am talking about09:46
RichardCis there a way for me to lessen the amount of files that synaptic downloads at one time?09:46
kkathmanhunika - hmmm I dont think thats available, no09:46
eppmase, i think there is an app out that auto does that for you...09:46
kkathmannot that I know of at least09:46
maseepp: which09:46
RichardCi think that on my dial-up, i should lessen the number for more reliablility09:46
hunikakkathman: that is the main problem with ubuntu09:46
RichardCreliability09:46
eppmase, 1 sec i will check09:46
hunikakkathman: you need internet connection09:46
kkathmanhunika: I suggest you file a bug report   at   bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:47
hunikakkathman: to allow universe-multiuniverse to play mp309:47
kkathmanhunika: I dont disagree09:47
hunikakkathman: do you think that at this point of view suse, fedora are better09:48
kkathmanno09:48
kkathmanI dont like fedora at all09:48
kkathmanSuSE is quite robust, I'll admit09:48
kkathmanif I were to run anything other than ubuntu, I'd run SUSE09:48
kkathmanhunika: remember it costs alot of money to make and distribute CDs09:49
hunikakkathman: then why you use ubuntu if you think that suse is better09:49
jahshua--i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome?09:49
kkathmandistributing one is one thing..but 5 or 6 is alot...especially since ubuntu doesnt sell commercial packages yet09:49
hunikakkathman: are you sure that the bugzilla address is corect09:50
kkathmanboth Fedora and SUSE do sell commericially09:50
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maseepp: find anything ?09:50
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eppmase, hold for 1 more minute.09:50
kkathmanhunika: bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:50
hunikakkathman: the problem with ubuntu is that it does not works out from the box09:50
kkathmanhunika: it did for me09:50
hunikakkathman: you could play mp3, avi and so on?09:51
kkathmansure09:51
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kkathmannot mp3s because you have to get the codex09:51
justanotherg' evening guys09:51
kkathmancodecs09:51
jahshua--anyone can help me ?09:52
kkathmanbut thats because those arent "legal" if you will09:52
jahshua--i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome?09:52
hunikakkathman:  that is the problem you see09:52
kkathmanno thats not a problem...thats necessary09:52
hunikakkathman: windows in this point of view is better09:52
jahshua--lol09:52
kkathmanjahshua--: you cannot separate them...you have both available which is a good thing09:52
jahshua--ok cool09:53
eppmase, i have used it before... but noone semms to know of it... so i will google it for you.09:53
kkathmanhunika: well seeing that windows pays the licenses that may be true to an extent09:53
kkathmanbut then Windows isnt free09:53
jahshua--AND09:53
jahshua--its not linux!09:53
jahshua--:D09:53
kkathmanright09:53
kkathmanand not OSS09:53
jahshua--not alot of things in fact :p09:53
hunikakkathman: yes it is not free, but you can play almost every file formats with it09:53
kkathmanhunika: you are either committed to open source or you arent09:54
hunikakkathman: I am a new user at linux so I think I am objective09:54
hunikakkathman: I like it09:54
justanotheri have a problem with kde and sudo... the administrator mode isn't working09:54
kkathmanhunika: no argument there09:54
justanotheri searched and found this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868109:54
kkathmanyou see those MP3 formats arent public domain09:54
justanotherbut it says it's already fixed (i'm using 5.10)09:54
kkathmanand I dare say that you are probably playing illegal music anyway :)09:54
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hunikakkathman: anyway i will write to bugzilla in hope that someone out there in the ubuntu world will do something09:55
kkathmanbut, then issue is that linux distros wont typically include these on any disks unless you pay for it09:55
epp!tell mase about ntfs09:55
jahshua--kkathman how many other desktops are available for kubuntu??09:55
hussamkkathman: that's why I only play internet radio09:55
justanotheri tried several things like kdesu systemsettings, sudo systemsettings - nohting works :( - can anybody help me plz09:55
jahshua--too many to name ?09:55
kkathmanfedora and suse do NOT have codecs or restricted formats either09:55
hussamkkathman: I don't do mp3's09:55
kkathmanunless you buy their boxed sets09:55
kkathmanthey have to do it that way dont you see09:56
hunikakkathman: my problem with ubuntu is that at my pc it does not worked out from the box09:56
hunikakkathman: i needed to download xine engine09:56
jahshua--thats part of the fun09:56
hunikakkathman: and a few packages09:57
jahshua--imo09:57
RichardCkkathman: do you know how to change the number of files that synaptic will download at one time?09:57
jahshua--you get to choose what you use09:57
hunikakkathman: but who don't has a net connection09:57
kkathmanhunika - I'd dare say that your definition of "out of the box working" is different than mine09:57
kkathmanyou didnt have to download the xine, for instance09:58
hunikaprobably09:58
hunikakkathman: at mine pc i had to because gstreamer engine did not work09:58
kkathmanhunika - but it DOES work, if you spend the time working on it I think09:59
kkathmannow there are things that are NOT on the install...which I personally like09:59
kkathmanI HATE fedora that installs EVERYTHING...its so bloated09:59
kkathmanbetter to ADD to your install, rather than take away09:59
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eppmace, sorry, it has been deleted. but i have the code right here...10:00
maseyeah, i just noticed10:00
eppi will put it all together, and send it to you.10:01
maseok thanks10:01
eppmase, sending file.10:02
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masek, waiting10:03
eppmase, its being send through DCC, did a window popup?10:04
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masenope10:06
eppmase, i will upload it to my webserver... will send link in a jiffy.10:06
masethanks dude10:06
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LazyAce`ok, lets say i have ubuntu as my main install, and i decided i wanted to check out kubuntu, and installed hte kubuntu set up, and it messed up my ubuntu install partially, how could i delete kubuntu and not affect my ubuntu?10:09
hunikakkathman-away: I have posted my views at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/6310.10:11
eppmase, in Konsole type "wget http://www.epfiles.com/linux/winmac_fstab" > "chmod 777 winmac_fstab" > "sudo ./winmac_fstab"10:12
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masealright..10:14
masedone that..10:14
masedo i have to mount it again?10:14
eppdid it work?10:14
maseor what10:14
eppno its mounted...10:15
eppim media10:15
maseah mount -a10:15
eppis it sucsesful?10:15
maseyeah, totally10:15
masethanks a bunch10:15
eppyea10:15
LazyAce`PENIS10:15
eppi knew it was outhere...10:16
LazyAce`that wasn't supposed to cross networks lol10:16
epphehe10:16
mase=] 10:16
eppk so back to my problem everyone... amarok wont play sound, but system sounds play.10:17
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maseamarok?10:19
maseuse xmms..10:19
brunocsHello all. I'm having some problems with mounting.. Can anyone help me?10:19
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apokryphos!helpme10:20
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:20
apokryphos=)10:20
jahshuaoooh i like XFCE10:21
jahshua:D10:21
jahshuathanks kkathman10:21
kkathman-awaynp10:21
brunocsOK. I have one CDRW/DVD-ROM drive and one DVD-RW drive. When I insert a disk in the DVD-RW drive, everything works fine (it automounts and opens the media:/ window). However, when I insert a DVD into the CDRW/DVD-ROM drive, it fails (strangely, it works if the disk is a CD, both data or music. The problem appears to be only w/ DVD disks)10:22
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brunocsthe specific error is: "An error occurred while loading media:/hdd: The file or folder media:/hdd does not exist."10:23
brunocs\/dev/hdd is my CDRW/DVD-ROM drive, which is the one w/ automount problems for DVD disks10:24
brunocsI appreciate any hints! :-) Thanks10:24
eppmase: but amarok has a nice itunes style library.10:26
apokryphosmase: xmms is the worst application out now that some people still actually freakin' use :)10:27
Chousukexmms really suffers from its age.10:27
masebah i still use xmms..10:27
Chousukenothing wrong with the app itself.10:27
masewhat's a good one then?10:27
Chousukeit's just old10:27
eppmase, amarok =).10:27
DaSkreechAhhhhhh10:27
apokryphosconsidering the other applications that are out, it's pretty absurd to still use it10:27
apokryphosJuK and amaroK are my favourite10:27
DaSkreechWhats wrong with my machine10:27
ChousukeAnd nowadays I for one would appreciate proper support for unicode and stuff, at least.10:28
DaSkreechI left it on last night and everything is moving pixel by pixel now10:28
DaSkreechThats not supposed to happen :-(10:28
brunocsdoes anyone have any hints on my problem, please?10:29
eppapokryphos, im getting no output, and i have tried all the engines.10:29
apokryphosepp: which ones have you tried?10:29
apokryphosDid you get the codecs, if it's mp3s you're trying to play?10:29
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eppgstreamer, xine, aRts10:30
apokryphosepp: with the xine engine, does it look like it's playing?10:31
eppyeah... but very fast.10:31
apokryphosif it's not working, then (i) your sound system altogether is mucked up, (ii) the volume isn't on.10:31
apokryphosepp: fast?10:31
epplike it gets through a song in like 4 seconds but no sound10:31
apokryphos:/10:32
apokryphosepp: with the other engines?10:32
eppwell... gstreamer just says that it cant be played... and i dont want to use aRts10:32
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apokryphosepp: install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg10:33
maseugh amarok is gay10:33
masedoesnt play mp3s10:33
apokryphosno, amarok is not gay, and yes -- it does play mp3s if you get the codecs10:33
maseoh fosho10:33
masethen i will get them10:33
apokryphosI just mentioned them (see up)10:34
eppmase, "apt-get install mpg321"10:34
epp:)10:34
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apokryphossolution!10:34
eppyeah!!!! it works!10:34
eppi uninstalled mpg321 and reinstalled!10:34
masek10:35
masestill doesnt work10:35
masewont add my files10:35
eppwhat do u mean...10:35
masewont add the files..10:36
apokryphosmase: huh?10:36
maseon that build collection thing10:36
maseit says they're not "playable"10:36
apokryphosmase: install those codecs, as listed above, close amarok, restart it, then drag whatever mp3s you want into the playlist10:36
apokryphosmase: well, what's the exact error?10:36
eppyeah... after u select the folders u want to add... push tools>rescan collection10:36
brunocsHello all. I saw on the wiki that media:/ doesn't use HAL. Anyone knows what this means, and if it can have anything to do with mounting problems?10:37
masek10:38
masestill doesnt work10:38
eppreally... thats odd.10:38
apokryphosmase: what is the error already10:38
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eppare u clicking on collecting to left?10:38
eppcollection*10:38
apokryphosbrunocs: where did you see that?10:38
masewell the tracks are added on the left10:38
masebut it doesnt play :/10:38
eppyeah... exactly my prob.10:39
apokryphosmase: it doesn't play, and amarok gives you no error?10:39
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maseexactly10:39
eppgo to amarok settings.10:39
maseer10:39
masenot playable10:39
masebut this time it added em10:39
apokryphoshuh?10:39
eppyeah... ok10:39
_gigi_salve10:39
eppgo to settings>amarok config> engine10:39
apokryphosit's a pretty simple process, not quite sure how you guys are getting this muddled...10:39
apokryphosinstall the codecs > open amarok > drag in and play an mp3. How hard can that be?10:40
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eppi think he needs the xine engine.10:40
eppapt-get install amarok-xine10:40
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maseThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:41
mase  amarok-xine: Depends: amarok (= 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4) but 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 is to b    e installed10:41
mad_manisten there somthing about you have to install some special packages before you can play mp3 files?10:41
apokryphos!amarok 1.3.710:41
ubotuamarok 1.3.7 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php10:41
apokryphosmase: go there10:41
apokryphosmad_man: yes10:42
giginessun italiano in room??10:42
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eppgigi, babelfish translate?10:42
gigino10:42
masek10:42
masewtf is that, apokryphos ?10:43
apokryphosgigi: #ubuntu-it10:43
apokryphosmase: the newest amarok10:43
masewell wheres the downlaod thing for it10:43
mase:/10:43
gigiok10:43
gigitanks10:43
maseer10:44
masewhats the thing for it again10:44
maseapt/sources.list ?10:44
masegot it..10:45
maseinstallinggg10:45
maseso what irc client should i use?10:46
masekonversation, xchat ?10:46
apokryphoskonversation is good10:47
eppmase are u running hoary or breezy?10:47
maseno idea what that means10:47
eppim using konversation.10:47
eppits your version of ubuntu10:47
masedont know10:47
eppbreezy is the brand new one.10:47
masethen its that one10:48
epphoary is like a few moths old10:48
robotgeekmase: cat /etc/issue10:48
maseis it bad that i have hoary stuff on my sources list?10:48
masehehe10:48
apokryphosmase: cat /etc/issue10:48
apokryphosah10:48
robotgeekapokryphos: :)10:48
maseits the newest kubuntu10:48
masesoooooo10:48
apokryphos.....what's the output?10:48
masebreezy bagger..10:49
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eppim using amarok 1.3.110:49
eppit works fine...10:50
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TachyonAnyone have a good link to documentation on mounting drives?  The stuff in the Ubuntu Guide only covers a bit of it. :/10:50
robotgeek!ntfs10:50
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK10:50
maseok10:50
masenow it plays10:50
eppTachyon, ntfs windows?10:50
masejust updating it worked10:50
eppits nice =)10:50
Tachyonepp: No, my Windows parition is fine.  I want to fix some issues I've got with both the CD/DVD drive and with my USB key.10:50
masewell10:51
masehow do i keep the blue thing opened10:51
masewhen you first play a song10:51
eppset it10:51
jahshuahello, im just wondering what other window managers there is aside from kde, gnome and XFCE.. anyone know any others that are fairly easy to use10:53
eppmase, amarok > xmms?10:53
eppor =?10:53
eppor<?10:53
masewell if it would stay the same size xmms stays..10:53
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eppyou can set it to look like xmms...10:53
maseyeah but its fucking huge10:53
robotgeekjahshua: fluxbox, openbox , several10:54
robotgeekjahshua: apt-cache search window | grep manager10:54
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masecan amarok play shoutcast live radio10:54
robotgeekmase: yes10:55
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jahshuaok10:55
jahshuathanks robot10:55
maselol10:55
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masei got rid of borders on it10:55
masehow do i get it back?10:55
robotgeekjahshua: np, looks like you havent found tab complete yet10:55
eppyeah... its on the left bar under... playlists>Radio Streams10:55
jahshuahm?10:55
robotgeekjahshua: robot<press tab key> should autocomplete to robotgeek10:56
jahshuarobotgeek10:56
jahshuanope10:56
jahshuahmm10:56
robotgeekjahshua: there ya go10:56
jahshuanah i typed that :p10:56
jahshuahehehe10:57
masehow do i get the borders back ? :/10:57
robotgeekjahshua: hmm, what client are you using?10:57
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maseah got it10:57
eppmase, hu?10:58
lorenzohi10:58
robotgeekhey lorenzo10:58
epphey lorenzo.10:58
lorenzohey10:58
eppneed help?10:58
lorenzoany italian here?10:59
robotgeek#kubuntu-it , maybe. also try #ubuntu-it10:59
robotgeek!it10:59
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:59
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jahshuarobot: irssi11:00
lorenzoprego :-)11:00
lorenzograzie a voi11:00
lorenzothanks11:00
robotgeekjahshua: it should work, it works for me11:00
yaccJust wondering, is there a way to cross-update a Sarge system to Ubuntu? *wonder*11:00
robotgeekyacc: people have done it, i believe11:00
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lorenzorobotgeek, do you really think it's possible?11:01
maseso how do i make konversation transparent11:01
lorenzoi would like to do it11:01
eppmeh... i dunno... i need all the cpu i can get so i lay off that.11:02
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robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFAQ?highlight=%28sarge%2911:02
robotgeekyacc: ^^11:03
eppanyone know of some good games for linux?11:04
eppfreeware?11:04
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DaSkreechhttp://www.happypenguin.org11:04
robotgeekepp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games11:04
eppany names of the best ones?11:05
epppersonal favorites mabey?11:05
DaSkreechepp: What are you interested in?11:05
DaSkreechWesnoth!! :)11:05
robotgeekepp: i don't play any, so sorry11:05
epprpg, action, shooter,11:05
eppbut my videocard cant do 3d so im kinda screwed for the best ones.11:05
DaSkreechI like Lost Labrynith11:06
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DaSkreechAction .. I guess I play Metal Blob Solid more than the others11:06
DaSkreechAnd Chromium is one of the betetr shooters11:06
DaSkreechbetter11:06
angasuleI'd love a clone of Fury of the Furries11:07
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eppmmm very good... i will chack these out11:07
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TachyonWhen I try to play a DVD from my DVD drive in Totem, I get the following error: "Failed to open device /dev/hdc for reading: Permission denied"11:10
eppTachyon tried running "sudo Totem"?11:12
Tachyonepp: Then I get this error in Konsole: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48468711:14
Tachyon(After attempting to play the DVD; Totem opens fine)11:14
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masewell hello there11:15
DaSkreechCan pacakges graduate from one repository to another?11:16
robotgeekDaSkreech: graduate?11:16
brunocsAn error occurred while loading media:/hdd:11:16
brunocsThe file or folder media:/hdd does not exist."11:16
DaSkreechrobotgeek: Yeah11:16
brunocsHello all. I'm using the latest version of Kubuntu and I'm facing a mounting problem. My CDRW-DVDROM drive succefully automounts and opens the media:/ window when I insert a CD disk, but fails when I try to put a DVD disk. The error is "An error occurred while loading media:/hdd: The file or folder media:/hdd does not exist.". Any ideas, please?11:17
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robotgeekDaSkreech: what do you mean by graduate?11:17
DaSkreechWell go from Universe to main11:17
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DaSkreechor from multiverse to universe11:17
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eppTachyon, sorry i have no idea... try asking in #ubuntu11:18
Tachyonepp: 'Kay, thanks anyway. :)11:18
robotgeekDaSkreech: prob not from multiverse to universe, but maybe from universe to main11:19
DaSkreechMultiverse is strictly non free?11:19
eppDaSkreech, do u have freecraft?11:19
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naliothDaSkreech: depends on if the license changes11:20
DaSkreechRight11:20
DaSkreechSo Blender could have migrated from multiverse to universe for example11:20
robotgeekDaSkreech: blender is in multiverse?11:21
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DaSkreechWould have been11:21
DaSkreechit was a commercial Linux application11:21
eppis there a java editor for linux?11:22
MarcC-awayepp, jedit?11:22
DaSkreechemacs?11:22
robotgeekvim :)11:23
MarcC-awayis there a way to get the Konqueror built-in Konsole back? (The one that attaches to the bottom of the window and follows you around)11:23
robotgeekDaSkreech: isn't blender in main11:23
robotgeekyes it is in main, was in universe before11:24
DaSkreechrobotgeek: It would have been in multiverse about three years ago11:24
robotgeekDaSkreech: hmm, i only heard abt blender much later :)11:24
DaSkreechrobotgeek: Essetially the answer I'm looking for is yes then :)11:25
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robotgeekDaSkreech: yes11:25
DaSkreechrobotgeek: Whats the main criteria for main?11:25
ninnghizidhaHello! My Volume-Up/Down keys can move the onscreen-volume-metre, but the volume doesnt change ...11:26
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robotgeekDaSkreech: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view11:26
ninnghizidha.. and i cant get it to work the right way.11:26
ninnghizidhamay someone help me to get this working?11:26
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ninnghizidhai got two soundcards, and i guess kubuntu switches the volume of the other soundcard11:27
jahshuarobotgeek: there is a windows manager called gentoo ?11:29
robotgeekjahshua: it's a file manager, like konqueror/nautilus11:29
epptry going to multimedia>volume control>file>device then pick the soundcard your device is hooked up to11:29
eppninnghizidha, ^11:30
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jahshuaok11:33
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ninnghizidhaI was there, but the device was already the right one ... and the volume-keys still behave not as they should11:34
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jahshuarobotgeek: fvwm isnt in that list, but its available ?11:42
robotgeekjahshua: shud be11:42
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eppim back!11:42
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jahshuathe command would be .. sudo apt-get install fvwm  ?11:43
jahshuathe command would be .. sudo apt-get install fvwm-desktop  ?11:44
jahshuaheh11:44
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jahshuais that correct11:48
nalioth!info fvwm11:51
ubotufvwm: (F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.5.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2914 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB11:51
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naliothjahshua: just fvwm   there is no -desktop11:51
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jahshuaok cool11:54
jahshuathank you11:54
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Yonhelp me plz!11:57
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Yonim trying to set up my dialup network11:57
Yonits dials up and conects but then i get a pppd error11:58
Yonsaying there is a problem with my password11:58
Yoni made use the password is right 1000 times11:58
YonPLZ HELP ME11:59
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