[12:04] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[12:07] <sander__> hi
[12:18] <gek> can anybody help me to install no-ip client?
[12:19] <robotgeek> gek: sudo apt-get install no-ip
[12:19] <leafw> use Adept
[12:20] <leafw> in the Menu / Syste,
[12:20] <leafw> m
[12:21] <gek> ))) i m new to ubuntu. sorry for my noob question. thanks at all
[12:22] <gek> how can i start it
[12:23] <robotgeek> gek: open a konsole, sudo /etc/init.d/no-ip restart
[12:23] <Snake__> Hey how hard is it to set up samba to share to other PCs??
[12:24] <kkathman> evening robotgeek :)
[12:24] <Snake__> Sup kkathman
[12:24] <kkathman> Snake__: its easy
[12:24] <Snake__> Easy enough to where I could do it?
[12:24] <Snake__> :)
[12:24] <kkathman> look in the wiki...foolproof instructions :)
[12:24] <Snake__> I got a 266 mhz, 64 mb RAM system I want to set up as a local file server, and I want to host a few files on the web
[12:24] <LacertaII> what the hell is happening to my PC? Kubuntu has been driving my HD like crazy for about 2 hours. Even the shell lags like hell and kdm doesn't seem to be working at all.
[12:24] <Snake__> I can do that right?
[12:25] <Snake__> !+samba
[12:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:25] <gek> ./robotgeek thanks
[12:26] <kkathman> Lacertall have you looked at ksysguard to see whats running?
[12:26] <LacertaII> kkathman i can't use anything in KDE
[12:26] <kkathman> Lacerta
[12:27] <kkathman> Lacertall then open a konsole and look at ps aux
[12:27] <kkathman> or top
[12:30] <leafw> how come the CLI ftp client is so limited? Is there any other non-gui ftp client to install in the repositories?
[12:31] <nalioth> leafw: many of them. try lftp
[12:31] <LacertaII> kkathman is there something in particular i should be looking for?
[12:31] <LacertaII> btw it took about 2 minutes before the ps command finished
[12:32] <kkathman> LacertaII: yes, run the "top" command and look at the top running processes and see whats "hogging" the resource
[12:32] <leafw> thanks nalioth
[12:32] <leafw> actually it turns out lftp is already installed.
[12:32] <kkathman> LacertaII: I dont know what could be consuming THAT much resource
[12:32] <nalioth> leafw: search in adept for ftp
[12:37] <LacertaII> kkathman: there's "gam_server" using 80% of all memory
[12:37] <LacertaII> mem%
[12:37] <LacertaII> is it all available memory or used memory?
[12:37] <LacertaII> and i didn't even do anything. it started doing that by itself
[12:38] <kkathman> gam is a file monitoring daemon
[12:39] <jahshua> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:39] <jahshua> my xmms has just decided to stop playing .mp3 files
[12:41] <jahshua> 'failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10'
[12:41] <jahshua> can someone help :(
[12:42] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:42] <bobesponja> do you know how I can get my usb mouse to work again? I unplugged it and replugged it and now it's blocked
[12:48] <LacertaII> kkathman: it stopped immediately when i killed kdm
[12:49] <kkathman> LacertaII: Im not familiar with the gam server
[12:50] <kkathman> Hobbsee: you know about the gam server?
[12:50] <LacertaII> no i've been using linux for a couple of weeks
[12:50] <krille> Hi !
[12:50] <jahshua> my xmms has just decided to stop playing .mp3 files
[12:50] <kkathman> the gam server is a file monitoring daemon...so something is awry here
[12:50] <jahshua> 'failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10'
[12:51] <jahshua> can someone help :(
[12:52] <bosk> http://lesbian.mine.nu/
[12:53] <nalioth> LacertaII: what version of kde are you running?
[01:11] <endo602> in the bios how do i make my sata drive the master boot
[01:11] <endo602> ?
[01:12] <Bachus9000> I've been having lots of trouble with the gstreamer plugin for Amarok and I would like to give the xine engine a shot.  I've installed the amarok-xine package, but xine does not show up in the Amarok settings dialog.  This is using Amarok 1.3.7 from the Kubuntu repository provided at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php. (of course, on Breezy :))
[01:13] <bosk> does it play mp3-s?
[01:14] <bosk> i use http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=507254 and i see xine in preferences
[01:14] <Riddell> Bachus9000: restart amarok, including the icon in the system tray
[01:14] <bosk> Riddell, oh, yes :)
[01:15] <admrl> Bachus9000: use xine for amarok
[01:15] <Shadyman> Hey guys.
[01:15] <admrl> Bachus9000: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[01:15] <bosk> he uses it
[01:15] <Shadyman> I started up Kubuntu, and logged in, and now it wants a password for "kate '-session' '10c517070000135...'
[01:16] <Shadyman> And it's not my login password or wallet password
[01:16] <admrl> oh i didnt read the hole thing
[01:16] <admrl> youve got it bosk
[01:16] <admrl> lol
[01:17] <Bachus9000> Yes, Riddell, I tried that and the plugin did not show up.  I restarted KDE and now it *is* present and appears to work fine.  Strange...the arts engine popped up right away after installing the packages and restartin Amarok.  Oh well. :)
[01:17] <Bachus9000> Thanks for the, er, moral support guys. :)
[01:27] <endo602> how can i install my OS on my sata drive and leave my ides as slaves
[01:29] <bosk> endo602, and where is the problem?
[01:30] <endo602> setup is not recognizing the sata as a master
[01:30] <endo602> or even as a drive
[01:30] <bosk> what do you meen as "master"?
[01:30] <bosk> what os do you want to install?
[01:31] <bosk> I have ubuntu installed on IDE, but my sata is recognized well too
[01:32] <Snake__> Does anyone know of any program that would let me see what other users on this network are doing?
[01:33] <Shadyman> Snake__: ethereal
[01:33] <Snake__> That doesn't tell me what other people are doing
[01:34] <Snake__> I can't see what website my sis is connecting to
[01:34] <Snake__> etc etc
[01:34] <Shadyman> Snake__: Sure you can.
[01:34] <Hobbsee> check her browsing history :P
[01:34] <Snake__> Shadyman: Not unless I install it onto the router...
[01:34] <Snake__> unless there is some way, if so, do tell
[01:34] <Hobbsee> why do you want to know what she's connecting to anyway?  doesnt seem terribly fair to me
[01:35] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: The smart ones always have the advantage ;)
[01:35] <Snake__> Hobbsee: I don't care what shes doing, this is more of a "I just wanna see if its possible" thing
[01:35] <Hobbsee> ah right
[01:35] <sambagirl> i have an external protocal request dialog box and i have cancelled it 100 times but it still is there, how do i remove it?
[01:35] <Snake__> If ya know that I mean ;)
[01:35] <Hobbsee> Shadyman: exactly, various anonymous stuff
[01:36] <Snake__> Shadyman: Well could you describe to me how to do it without installing or tampering with any of the router software?
[01:36] <bosk> sambagirl, ctrl-alt-escape
[01:36] <sambagirl> oh no it shut down my mozilla
[01:36] <Shadyman> Snake__: Is it a router or a hub?
[01:37] <Snake__> Shadyman: Linksys WRK54G Router
[01:37] <Shadyman> Snake__: Gah.
[01:37] <Snake__> Bah!
[01:37] <Snake__> lol
[01:38] <Shadyman> Snake__: With a hub, you could see all traffic going through
[01:38] <Snake__> I know
[01:38] <Shadyman> Snake__: Like at school... *shiftyeyes*
[01:38] <Snake__> But I don't have a hub :)
[01:39] <Shadyman> Snake__: True.
[01:39] <Snake__> Shadyman: Actually my school has a giant router :(
[01:39] <Shadyman> Snake__: OMGWTFBBQ?
[01:39] <Snake__> I kid you not
[01:39] <Snake__> I've seen it
[01:39] <Snake__> That is no hub lol
[01:39] <Shadyman> Snake__: We've got hubs in every room, and one router per building.
[01:39] <Snake__> Shadyman: Wow....lol
[01:40] <Snake__> Shadyman: Okay so can I do it without a hub?
[01:40] <Shadyman> Snake__: each room is connected to router with gigabit ethernet, routers are wired to the server room with fibre optic
[01:40] <Shadyman> Snake__: Not sure.
[01:40] <Snake__> Okay then
[01:40] <Snake__> :)
[01:40] <Shadyman> Snake__: All i know is that passwords are plaintext *shifty*
[01:40] <Shadyman> at least for one of our online applications.
[01:40] <Snake__> Shadyman: not all ;)
[01:41] <Snake__> Shadyman: I know my teachers webmail's is
[01:41] <Snake__> Shadyman: ....now I just need to figure if novells is :D
[01:41] <Shadyman> Snake__: That too.
[01:41] <Snake__> novell is plaintext??
[01:41] <Shadyman> No
[01:41] <Snake__> Oh
[01:41] <Shadyman> but around here, they use a RADIUS server.
[01:41] <Shadyman> all passwords are the same.
[01:41] <Snake__> Hahaha
[01:42] <Snake__> *sigh* want do this with a ROUTER
[01:42] <Snake__> grrr
[01:42] <Shadyman> Snake__: Maybe someone in #ubuntu could help
[01:42] <Shadyman> there's lots more trolls there than here
[01:42] <Shadyman> lol
[01:42] <Snake__> Maube
[01:43] <Lacerta> I want to get some files from my WinXP PC. Do i need to make some adjustments there so linux can access it?
[01:43] <nalioth> trolls?
[01:43] <Snake__> Lacerta use samba
[01:43] <Shadyman> nalioth: People trolling around.
[01:43] <Shadyman> nalioth: Folks listening, but not participating
[01:43] <nalioth> Shadyman: those are lurkers
[01:44] <Lacerta> Snake__:  yeah but do i need to drag my fat ass to the winxp to make it work?
[01:44] <Snake__> You shouldnt
[01:44] <Snake__> lol
[01:44] <Lacerta> Snake__:  i'd rather just sit here
[01:44] <nalioth> Shadyman: trolls shout "F&&&& YOU!" and leave
[01:44] <Shadyman> nalioth: Hmm.. I thought they shouted "O RLY"?
[01:44] <Hobbsee> probably that too
[01:45] <Hobbsee> then we get out our nice and shiny ban stick :P
[01:45] <Snake__> :)
[01:45] <Shadyman> o rly?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> of course
[01:45] <Shadyman> no wai
[01:45] <Shadyman> never gets old.
[01:45] <Snake__> D00D IM H4x1n on l1nux!!
[01:45] <Snake__> am I cool yet??
[01:45] <Shadyman> Snake__: Yes.
[01:45] <Snake__> f0ck YA!
[01:46] <Snake__> I beet u n00bs nevr evn seene lynix!
[01:46] <Shadyman> Snake__: Nope. Never.
[01:46] <Snake__> lol
[01:46] <nalioth> Snake__: exhibit those traits in -offtopic, please
[01:46] <Snake__> :)
[01:46] <Snake__> But da n00bs in kubuntu dun no
[01:46] <Snake__> er
[01:47] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell Snake__ about enter
[01:48] <Shadyman> hehe
[01:48] <Snake__> Tard.
[01:49] <Snake__> I wish this would work :(
[01:49] <Shadyman> Snake__: You're on wireless?
[01:49] <Snake__> Yep
[01:49] <Shadyman> Snake__: Or, you mean "another" NIC?
[01:49] <Shadyman> O
[01:51] <nalioth> Shadyman: may i ask you into #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[01:51] <Snake__> lol
[01:51] <Shadyman> nalioth: Ok..
[01:54] <propagandhi> hi guys & girls
[01:54] <Hobbsee> hi propagandhi :)
[01:56] <propagandhi> I know this is a long shot but does anyone here have a good knowledge of postfix - i've tried the postfix channel, and theres no talk
[01:58] <Hobbsee> propagandhi: nope, no clue, sorry
[01:58] <propagandhi> ahh, thats cool
[02:08] <Shadyman> Snake__: Whoa.
[02:09] <nalioth> Snake__: i saw it coming
[02:09] <Snake__> Dude they are talking to me in that channel...how owuld they like my to reply??
[02:09] <nalioth> Snake__: you should ask them to join you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <Snake__> Argh
[02:10] <Shadyman> I don't know what mode +b means, but it sounds bad.
[02:10] <Snake__> +b = Banned
[02:10] <Shadyman> Snake__: but you're still in the channel?
[02:10] <Snake__> Yes but I can't talk
[02:10] <Shadyman> Snake__: Ohh.
[02:10] <nalioth> Snake__: you've been +q'd
[02:11] <Shadyman> Q for quiet
[02:11] <Snake__> Rofl
[02:11] <Hobbsee> what, you were silly in #ubuntu?
[02:12] <Snake__> Hobbsee: No apparently asking about linux on routers is off topic
[02:12] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: No, I think he was talking about router stuff
[02:12] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: Maybe a little silly, but nothing that I can't beat :P
[02:12] <Hobbsee> prepare for an official ban if you do...
[02:13] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: Ok, maybe I can't beat it, then.
[02:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:13] <Hobbsee> might not want to, more like
[02:13] <Snake__> :)
[02:13] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: True.
[02:16] <nalioth> Snake__: folks who come back on a ban, generally turn a hour-or-two ban into a 2 or 3 day one
[02:17] <Snake__> nalioth: What do you mean?
[02:17] <Snake__> nalioth: I just exited because I have no reason to watch all the text scroll...it makes me jealous :P
[02:18] <nalioth> Snake__: there are some folks who change their method of entry (to beat the ban)
[02:18] <Snake__> Ohhhh I see
[02:18] <Snake__> Hmmm
[02:19] <Snake__> Is there anyway I could make the terminal scroll random text?
[02:19] <Shadyman> Snake__: Don't burn out your brain.
[02:19] <Snake__> just for the fun of it
[02:19] <Shadyman> Snake__: Get a "The Matrix" screensaver.
[02:20] <Snake__> lol
[02:20] <Snake__> But seriously. Anyone?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Snake__: cat /a/very/long/file
[02:21] <arvind> test
[02:21] <Hobbsee> hi arvind
[02:21] <Snake__> Hobbsee: LOL! good idea :)!
[02:22] <Hobbsee_> :P
[02:28] <Ti_Uhl> why is it that when u click a url in konversation that it downloads the page to a cache and then opens it in firefox ? because then u can see the page but if u click a link it doesn't work anymore .... :)
[02:39] <FHX> Hey all
[02:39] <Snake__> Sup FHX
[02:39] <FHX> is there a way for me to upgrade my IE in wine?
[02:39] <Snake__> did you get my note?
[02:39] <FHX> Snake__: Yeah, worked great =)
[02:39] <Snake__> :)
[02:40] <FHX> I'm trying to increase my RAM, but I don't know my computer model number.
[02:40] <Snake__> What kind of comp
[02:40] <FHX> and there's this scanner thing online that will determine the RAM i need, but it uses IE.
[02:40] <FHX> Compaq Presario,
[02:40] <FHX> it's ancient.
[02:40] <FHX> 4-5 years ish
[02:40] <Snake__> mmmm you would just have to open it up, and see what kind of ram is in it
[02:40] <FHX> I opened it
[02:41] <FHX> the side, i can't tell.
[02:41] <FHX> XD
[02:41] <FHX> I don't know how to
[02:41] <Snake__> You have to read the ram chip
[02:41] <FHX> Hm..okay tell me how? XD then I'll log off and open it again
[02:41] <Snake__> It should say like "DDR300 PC4800
[02:41] <Snake__> Or something
[02:41] <FHX> the side?
[02:41] <FHX> or do I have to open the back?
[02:41] <Snake__> On the stick of ram
[02:41] <Snake__> You have to get to the stick of ram
[02:41] <FHX> Aren't there four?
[02:41] <FHX> there were..x.x last time I checked
[02:42] <Snake__> I dont know...it depends how much you have in it
[02:42] <FHX> (10 mins ago)
[02:42] <Snake__> take them all out, and write down averything it says
[02:42] <FHX> Hm..okay. So do I need to open the back of my comp? or just the side?
[02:42] <FHX> take them out? O.O how?
[02:42] <Snake__> Oh god.
[02:42] <Snake__> Never mind
[02:42] <Snake__> Dont bothre
[02:42] <Snake__> lol
[02:42] <FHX> -.- No. Tell me.
[02:42] <Snake__> Go to offtopic  before I get banned here
[02:42] <Snake__> too
[02:42] <FHX> Ok
[02:43] <sampan> FHX, do you have a windows partition on your hd?
[02:43] <FHX> sampan: No. I wiped windows clean off.
[02:44] <sampan> ahhh too bad ... there's a nifty little app (cpu-z) that will show you a bunch of sys info (including exact ram type and data rate)
[02:44] <sampan> windows only though :/
[03:04] <fit4lfe> does anyone user lftp here ?
[03:05] <crimsun_> I do
[03:06] <fit4lfe> trying to get on a pret site
[03:06] <crimsun_> "pret"?
[03:06] <fit4lfe> its an option \
[03:06] <fit4lfe> yes
[03:06] <fit4lfe> anyway
[03:06] <fit4lfe> this is what I try
[03:07] <crimsun_> I have no idea what a "pret" site is
[03:07] <fit4lfe> lftp -p 19999 -u  name , pass sitename
[03:07] <fit4lfe> would that work
[03:07] <fit4lfe> to connect to a site
[03:07] <crimsun_> no space between name,passwd
[03:07] <crimsun_> otherwise, yes.
[03:07] <fit4lfe> how about ssl
[03:08] <crimsun_> depends if the ftp daemon you're connecting to uses gnutls or openssl
[03:08] <fit4lfe> opensll
[03:08] <fit4lfe> openssl
[03:08] <crimsun_> lftp is linked against gnutls12
[03:09] <fit4lfe> now I get an error saying even not found
[03:09] <crimsun_> ldd `which lftp`  -->  libgnutls.so.12 => /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.12 (0xb7e7b000)
[03:09] <fit4lfe> don't know
[03:10] <crimsun_> what's the precise error?
[03:10] <crimsun_> (sanitise it as necessary)
[03:10] <fit4lfe> just says event not found
[03:10] <fit4lfe> now do I have to lftp first
[03:10] <fit4lfe> then the commands
[03:10] <fit4lfe> or just lftp with the commands
[03:11] <crimsun_> normally, once you're in lftp, you'd ''open -u user,passwd -p port site''
[03:11] <crimsun_> either way
[03:11] <crimsun_> 'site' of course must resolve
[03:12] <fit4lfe> got it thx
[03:27] <fit4lfe> crimsun how do you mget multiple files ie.. xvid
[03:28] <crimsun_> fit4lfe: you just said it
[03:28] <fit4lfe> giving me an error
[03:29] <fit4lfe> Access failed: 550 Not a plain file
[03:29] <crimsun_> then it's not a file
[03:29] <crimsun_> you're probably trying to get a directory
[03:29] <crimsun_> ''help mirror''
[03:29] <fit4lfe> yes
[03:29] <fit4lfe> k
[03:30] <fit4lfe> so just mirror -c filename will work
[03:31] <crimsun_> dirname.
[03:31] <fit4lfe> yeah thats what I mean
[03:31] <fit4lfe> thx bro
[03:32] <Tachyon> What exactly does "locking a session" do?
[03:32] <AoP> Locks it
[03:32] <AoP> So when you goto switch to it you need to enter the pass
[03:32] <stefano> nice anwer
[03:32] <stefano> :)
[03:32] <AoP> I know =)
[03:32] <Tachyon> Ah
[03:32] <stefano> it does not log you off if that was your intention to ask
[03:33] <stefano> try it :D
[03:33] <Tachyon> Nice.
[03:36] <Determinist> is there anything special about the kubuntu iso image that would make the CD i burned it to unreadable? this has happened to me with 3 different burners and about 5 types of CDs, i just cant seem to be able to burn the cursed image and make the laptop boot from it and nothing can read the CD once it's burned
[03:36] <Determinist> i've used k3b, nero and gnomebaker to burn the CDs and i'm becoming hopeless
[03:36] <nalioth> Determinist: did you verify your image?
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Determinist about verify
[03:36] <Determinist> yes mate, i did, twice
[03:36] <stefano> maybe the reading-device is broken
[03:37] <Determinist> dude, it reads every other CD
[03:37] <stefano> thats crap
[03:37] <Determinist> ...
[03:37] <Determinist> ok, i'm gonna give this one last shot
[03:37] <Determinist> i have k3b
[03:38] <stefano> how does the laptop react?
[03:38] <Determinist> how is it supposed to react? it cant read the CD once it's written, no matter what burner i've used to burn it or what application.
[03:39] <stefano> do you try to boot from it? or do you try to read it in windows, or linux, mac or what?
[03:39] <Determinist> tried to boot, tried to read the CD... no go
[03:39] <Determinist> laptop boots fine from a winxp CD and from an ubuntu shipit CD
[03:39] <Determinist> and can read CDs just fine
[03:39] <Determinist> just not this damned kubuntu image
[03:39] <stefano> i would guess that there is the posibillity to have two cd's with different content but the same md5-sum
[03:40] <Determinist> i suppose, yes
[03:40] <Determinist> but what's the possibility? i've downloaded the image 3 times already just to make sure
[03:40] <Determinist> from different mirrors
[03:40] <stefano> awe
[03:40] <Determinist> i feel like kicking something already lol
[03:40] <Determinist> this just doesnt make sense
[03:40] <stefano> dude thats like aliens manipulate you :>
[03:41] <Determinist> :D
[03:41] <Determinist> no, seriously. gonna try one last time
[03:41] <stefano> and then?
[03:41] <Determinist> is there any specific way to burn the image using k3b?
[03:41] <AoP> His head will implode
[03:41] <stefano> do not hurt yourself or some crap. it istn worth the blood
[03:41] <Determinist> lol
[03:41] <Determinist> come on, be serious
[03:41] <stefano> okay man :)
[03:41] <stefano> there is no special way to burn it
[03:42] <stefano> just burn it how you a used to do so
[03:42] <Determinist> alright
[03:42] <Determinist> brb then
[03:42] <stefano> mka
[03:42] <stefano> y
[03:43] <AoP> mmkay
[03:43] <sorush20> where is mysql in ubuntu?
[03:43] <stefano> nowhere
[03:43] <stefano> its commercial since a few month, and for that reason they left it out
[03:44] <stefano> i guess
[03:44] <stefano> oh no
[03:44] <stefano> its there
[03:44] <stefano> use adept and type mysql
[03:45] <stefano> inst really that hard :>
[03:46] <Determinist> mysql is dual, kinda like QT, isnt it?
[03:46] <Determinist> ok, burning at speed X1 :P
[03:46] <stefano> maybe, i dont really know but it sounds correct
[03:46] <Determinist> if that doesnt work right, i'm gonna throw this laptop out the window and burn afew CDs with a lighter
[03:47] <stefano> no i've got a better idea
[03:47] <stefano> throw this laptop (gently) in a fedex-box and write my adress on it
[03:47] <stefano> there you go
[03:47] <stefano> i will punish it for you
[03:49] <AoP> I will to
[03:49] <stefano> what does your "i will to" mean?
[03:51] <hara> hi. does anybody know what printer/scanner-combination (I mean those multifunction things) brands work with Linux?
[03:51] <crimsun_> the HP printers do
[03:51] <stefano> yes i heard that they'd work too
[03:52] <stefano> hp printers have great linux-support at all
[03:53] <AoP> I've got a lexmark 2300 for Xmas, sadly it doesn't work =(
[03:53] <AoP> it's a 3 in 1 thingy
[03:53] <bam_> anyone know about  step-systime?
[03:54] <stefano> try to get TurboPrint AoP!
[03:54] <stefano> my friend's Pixma iP3000 works with tp
[03:54] <AoP> Alright
[03:54] <AoP> Ill give it a shot ty
[03:55] <hara> crimsun_: are the HP ones good? a friend of mine has an epson and he praises its greatness
[03:55] <stefano> did you know that hp-printers are not able to print money?
[03:56] <AoP> omg =(
[03:56] <stefano> they print this red bracket on it with "yadda yadda illegal and stuff"
[03:56] <AoP> My big scheme... RUINED!
[03:56] <crimsun_> hara: they "work." I can't speak beyond that.
[03:56] <stefano> hara: take an hp ;) 3550 or so, cheap and good
[03:58] <hara> stefano: how about that pixmap? that's canon right?
[03:58] <stefano> pixmap?
[03:58] <stefano> i know about Pixma
[03:58] <stefano> the iP 3000 and such
[03:58] <AoP> stefano:  TurboPrint doesn't support Lexmark brands at all I don't think =\
[03:59] <stefano> damn, im sorry dude
[03:59] <AoP> NP
[03:59] <stefano> hara: the canons dont work too good
[03:59] <AoP> I spose I'll just boot windows whenever I have to print stuff =D
[03:59] <hara> ok
[03:59] <hara> thanks!
[04:01] <stefano> yeah, unfortunately ppl dont expect these devices not to work. they think "its for a pc, it works" and then they see your desktop and ask "it this the new SupaStyleFlowerPowerXP Styling Package deluxe xxl shareware edition with 30-days-trial-period?"
[04:16] <lewisworkin> anyone here use four monitors?
[04:16] <Knowerrors> !libdvdcss
[04:16] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:17] <Knowerrors> !FreeFormats
[04:17] <ubotu> well, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[04:20] <nalioth> !libdvdcss2
[04:20] <ubotu> I heard libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[04:25] <lewisworkin> for the life of....what is the apt-get command for mc?
[04:26] <lewisworkin> root@litdonofrio:~# apt-get install mc
[04:26] <lewisworkin> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <lewisworkin> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:26] <lewisworkin> E: Couldn't find package mc
[04:27] <Hobbsee_afk> apt-cache search mc
[04:29] <nalioth> lewisworkin: please dont paste in here, and enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:29] <lewisworkin> ya but I still do not see midnight commander
[04:29] <nalioth> !repos
[04:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:31] <xwolf-> how can i install firefox 1.5 from the .tar.gz package?
[04:31] <nalioth> !firefox15
[04:31] <ubotu> I heard firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[04:31] <lewisworkin> !multiscreens
[04:31] <ubotu> lewisworkin: I haven't a clue
[04:32] <lewisworkin> !multiscreens right now I'm mirroring one display of my xentera gt 4 agp setup
[04:32] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, lewisworkin
[04:32] <lewisworkin> !weather karb
[04:33] <lewisworkin> got the bot that time (-;
[04:39] <lewisworkin> need some help
[04:40] <Tachyon> Anyone know where I can find a driver for my Epson Stylus CX-3810?
[04:40] <xwolf-> how do I UNINSTALL firefox15? lololol
[04:40] <nalioth> xwolf-: probably the reverse of how you got it
[04:41] <xwolf-> i don't know the way back
[04:41] <xwolf-> haha
[04:47] <AoP> How do you uninstall stuff o.o
[04:48] <kkathman> AoP: depends on what you want to uninstall
[04:49] <AoP> Nothin really,
[04:50] <AoP> just was wondering for future reference =)
[04:50] <AoP> sudo apt-get uninstall maybe :O
[04:50] <kub-01> does apt-get prompt before overwriting or prevent from installing conflicting packages?
[04:56] <nalioth> kub-01: it does
[04:56] <Snake__> Does anyone know how to set up a shoutcast server??
[04:56] <Snake__> (windows)
[04:57] <nalioth> Snake__: try icecast or nicecast
[04:57] <Snake__> ok
[04:57] <kkathman> AoP: to uninstall a package, yes (sudo apt-get uninstall <pkgname>, but other things are uninstalled differently
[04:58] <Determinist> alright, finally, after days of playing around, thing burned the CD properly and booted from it
[04:58] <Determinist> i now have a clean kubuntu install on my laptop and a wonderful ubuntu install on my home desktop :P
[04:58] <Determinist> life's back to normal
[04:58] <AoP> k
[04:58] <kkathman> Determinist: good news then :)
[04:58] <Determinist> indeed :)
[05:00] <Determinist> i wonder... is there any norton ghost like application for linux that i can use to save a snapshot of the current system state to be backed up to a DVD?
[05:00] <lewisworkin> need multi monitor....what is hwdetect screit?
[05:00] <lewisworkin> script?
[05:02] <Determinist> any chance you guys might be able to tell me how to get the trash icon back on my desktop where it belongs ?
[05:02] <linux_galore> just wondering if there is a flight-2 version of Kubuntu all i can see is ubuntu
[05:02] <linux_galore> for download
[05:03] <linux_galore> dont worry found it........sheeesh
[05:08] <lewisworkin> please insert the disk bressy.....why do I have to do that?
[05:10] <lewisworkin> how do I get past the require dvd thing...
[05:10] <lewisworkin> in aptept
[05:11] <lewisworkin> adept
[05:15] <Tachyon> Should I be using OOo 2 or OOo 1?
[05:16] <nalioth> Tachyon: use whatever you like
[05:16] <Tachyon> Meh . . .
[05:17] <nalioth> lewisworkin: in adept preferences, see if you can remove the cd as a source
[05:21] <Determinist> nalioth: any idea how to get the trash icon on my desktop? no gconf here, so cant find it ;)
[05:22] <nalioth> Determinist: have you seen gtweakui ?
[05:22] <Determinist> nalioth: nope mate
[05:23] <nalioth> !info gtweakui
[05:23] <ubotu> gtweakui: (A collection of simple dialogs as a front end to GConf), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 67 kB, Installed size: 452 kB
[05:23] <nalioth> n/m we are kubuntu users here, aren't we?
[05:23] <nalioth> kkathman: you here?
[05:25] <Determinist> nalioth: yeah, working on my laptop at the moment mate, gnome i can handle by now, it's kde i'm brand new around
[05:25] <donofrio> ok I created a new user logged in and do not have permission to mixer?
[05:25] <nalioth> Determinist: somewhere in the prefs, you'll find the setting
[05:25] <nalioth> i'm not sure where, Determinist
[05:25] <Determinist> nalioth: k mate, thanks
[05:27] <kkathman> nalioth yes...im here wassup?
[05:27] <kkathman> was working on something for a moment
[05:27] <nalioth> kkathman: Determinist has a question
[05:28] <kkathman> nalioth: oh now you set me up for that just to laugh and shame me
[05:28] <Determinist> kkathman: actually, i do :)
[05:28] <Determinist> kkathman: how do i put the trash icon on my desktop?
[05:29] <kkathman> go to the kicker, right click...add to panel...applet...trash
[05:29] <Determinist> kkathman: desktop... not panel mate
[05:29] <kkathman> desktop?
[05:29] <kkathman> icck
[05:29] <Determinist> icck?
[05:29] <difeta> how can i remount my root filesystem in readonly mode?
[05:31] <kkathman> Determinist: if you know where the trash applet is, its pretty easy from there
[05:31] <kkathman> but I dont
[05:31] <AoP> ^.^
[05:33] <Determinist> k
[05:34] <kkathman> Determinist: there is an entry in kde-forums on it tho
[05:34] <Determinist> kkathman: k, thanks
[05:34] <kkathman> it will work, but the trash icon wont change from full to empty
[05:35] <kkathman> http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55629/lastpost.html#post55629
[05:35] <kkathman> thats why I keep it in the kicker and just reduce the size of the kicker to the trash only
[05:35] <Determinist> kicker... would the what... exactly?
[05:36] <nalioth> kicker is your panel
[05:36] <Determinist> right lol
[05:36] <Determinist> alright
[05:36] <Determinist> mind the terminology guys, not fully aware of such terms just yet :)
[05:39] <kub-01> terminology?
[05:39] <kub-01> kicker?
[05:39] <kub-01> i like it
[05:39] <kkathman> Determinist: you can vary the size of the kicker tall, tiny, small...and virtually anywhere on the periphery of your desktop
[05:39] <Determinist> dude... kicker, applet, kububu, kobola, k-my-ass-is-on-fire ... it takes time getting used to lol
[05:40] <kkathman> lol
[05:41] <AoP> I like how 90% of things starts with a K =)
[05:41] <Determinist> kkathman: yes, i've played with those options afew mins ago
[05:41] <kkathman> Determinist: if you are new to KDE, I would suggest that you spend alot of time in the System Settings area first, learning about how configurable the desktop is
[05:41] <Determinist> i dont, but then... i guess it could be worse
[05:41] <Determinist> kkathman: doing just that mate
[05:41] <kkathman> I reduced the size of my kicker to just 2 small applets  .. trash and clock and its at the far right
[05:42] <kkathman> rest of the kicker is kinda messy
[05:42] <sampan> i use a full width one, but it's transparent and reduced to just four icons on the right and pager/trash/clock on the left
[05:42] <Determinist> no, see, i'm an uptight anal person, if i dont know what does what i go slightly insane lol
[05:42] <kkathman> Tachyon: indeed, I am the same...nothing is on my desktop except the weather and monitor
[05:43] <kkathman> Determinist: KDE help is very good
[05:43] <AoP> You can get the weather?
[05:43] <AoP> Sweet o.o
[05:43] <kkathman> AoP yes
[05:43] <Tachyon> I like sleek looks to the windows too.
[05:43] <Determinist> kkathman: aye, have that open as well...
[05:43] <Determinist> k guys, 3rd shift over, almost 7 am
[05:43] <Determinist> time to head on home
[05:43] <sampan> tachyon  the virtual desktops are VERY nice for managing lots of windows -- easy to switch to them with keystrokes and you can run more apps full screen then
[05:44] <Tachyon> Yeah, I like the desktops
[05:44] <sampan> that's one of my fav linux features -- i never realized how limiting windows was with only one :/
[05:44] <kkathman> sampan:  I created a second panel and flush that full left and make it very small...contains my tray and the desktops applet
[05:45] <kkathman> sampan: you can get virtual desltops with windows too
[05:45] <sampan> yeah so i've heard, but it's not there by default, so i never even bothered to try
[05:46] <sampan> probably wouldn't have even tried it out except that linux distros all have it -- tried it and got hooked :D
[05:46] <kkathman> sampan: true...I got one a long time ago as a bonus with another product I got
[05:46] <kkathman> sampan: I dont know what I did without them
[05:46] <sampan> kkathman  you have two panels then?  one right, one left on the bottom?
[05:46] <Tachyon> Anyone got a good recommendation for a sleek/efficient KDE theme?  Or other tips on maximising desktop usage?
[05:47] <kkathman> one right, one left...both very small
[05:47] <kkathman> then I use ksmoothdock in the middle
[05:47] <kkathman> it disappears when I dont need it
[05:47] <sampan> nice ... :)  gotta love kde's flexibility
[05:48] <sampan> nice clean background too?
[05:48] <kkathman> sampan:  one sec...I'll give you a dump
[05:48] <sampan> cool :)
[05:49] <Shadyman> Ok. KDE hates me.
[05:49] <sampan> shadyman  i doubt it -- it's probably nothing personal
[05:49] <Shadyman> It likes crashing, though.
[05:50] <Shadyman> Is that its way of saying it loves me?
[05:50] <sampan> perhaps!  kinda like a woman: always saying/doing the opposite of what they really mean!  ;/
[05:50] <Shadyman> I guess.
[05:51] <Shadyman> How do you get the "My Computer"-type of thing like gnome has for the desktop?
[05:52] <kkathman> sampan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6361
[05:52] <sampan> *click*
[05:53] <Shadyman> Pretty!
[05:53] <Shadyman> what's your CPU/RAM/Net applet thing?
[05:53] <AoP> I like ^
[05:53] <kkathman> its a SuperKarama applet called newramba2
[05:53] <Shadyman> newramba
[05:53] <Shadyman> got it
[05:54] <sampan> kkathman  i like the monitors you have -- very nice
[05:54] <kkathman> newramba2
[05:54] <kkathman> theres a newramba  and a  newramba2
[05:54] <Shadyman> ok
[05:55] <kkathman> now if you look at the bottom
[05:55] <kkathman> see that panel at the bottom?? That disappears during normal use
[05:55] <kkathman> and the virtual desktops go away also
[05:55] <Shadyman> kkathman: Nifty.
[05:56] <Shadyman> kkathman: I'm still not sure about KDE vs Gnome again, though. Gnome doesn't crash like KDE does.
[05:56] <kkathman> occasionally I will shut down all the SK stuff to get more room
[05:56] <Shadyman> KDE crashes... More than windows.
[05:56] <kkathman> Shadyman: My KDE has never crashed...not once
[05:56] <Shadyman> kkathman: Whoa.
[05:57] <Tachyon> KDE is far more comfortable for me.  I installed it yesterday after finding Gnome difficult to handle.  Already I like it better
[05:57] <sampan> kkathman  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6362    this is mine -- super-simple :/
[05:57] <nalioth> kkathman is a 7334 h@X0r
[05:58] <sampan> since taking that snapshot i've removed most of the icons though -- so it's even more minimalistic
[05:59] <AoP> nice desktop sampan
[05:59] <sampan> aop -- i dunno -- it's plain  ... and very very grey :X
[05:59] <AoP> Very clean tho
[05:59] <dissidentcitizen> I find konqueror pretyy buggy, it crashes on renaming files and occasionally when browsing the web.....nothing major though
[05:59] <Tachyon> What's the "Pager" for my desktops?
[06:00] <Shadyman> dissidentcitizen: Yes! That's the kinda stuff I don't want.
[06:00] <sampan> the wallpaper comes from the vladstudio site -- he does some really cool backgrounds
[06:00] <Shadyman> Kate also crashes a lot for me.
[06:00] <kkathman> I dont use konqueror for anything
[06:00] <Shadyman> kkathman: How do you view directories, then?
[06:00] <sampan> kkathman  what do you use for file management?
[06:00] <Shadyman> If he says xterm...
[06:00] <sampan> lol
[06:01] <sampan> maybe mc? ;x
[06:01] <Shadyman> hehehe
[06:01] <kkathman> Shadyman: I use krusader
[06:01] <Shadyman> kkathman: Hmm.
[06:01] <dissidentcitizen> considering Kubuntu is only two releases old the slight buggyness doesn't really bother me, especially when you consider the upsides of having KDE3.5 and the usually the latest Amarok on release
[06:01] <kkathman> and the CLI of course
[06:02] <sampan> hrmmmm, a krusader sounds like a kde-gui-mc
[06:02] <Shadyman> sampan: It is.
[06:02] <sampan> sounds like it's worth a look
[06:03] <Shadyman> What's the KDE equivalent of gksudo?
[06:03] <sampan> kdesu
[06:04] <nalioth> !kdesu
[06:04] <ubotu> [kdesu]  :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[06:04] <kkathman> Shadyman: kdesu
[06:04] <nalioth> my answer was bigger! nyah! lol
[06:04] <AoP> Where would I go about to get newramba or newramba2?
[06:04] <Shadyman> nalioth: And what was this about using ubotu to tell folks things? :P
[06:05] <kkathman> AoP: kde-look.org
[06:06] <AoP> k
[06:07] <sampan> kkathman  krusader looks very nice indeed -- thank you for mentioning it!
[06:07] <kkathman> sure no problem
[06:08] <kkathman> sampan: whats nice about that program, is that you can run it either as root or regular user
[06:08] <Shadyman> kkathman: I just saw that
[06:08] <Shadyman> kkathman: It's better than running gksudo nautilus :P
[06:08] <kkathman> and when you delete...is doesnt move it to trash...which takes forever with konqy
[06:09] <kkathman> Shadyman: yes
[06:09] <sampan> yeah i just added it to my kmenu in both normal and sudo varieties -- very handy
[06:12] <Knowerrors> Heyall, right now clock thinks its set to utc when its actually local, how do I change that?
[06:13] <Shadyman> Knowerrors Right click on clock, "Configure Clock"
[06:13] <sampan> knowerrors: system settings will have a date/time ...or you can right-click the clock to config
[06:13] <Knowerrors> no good
[06:13] <Shadyman> No wait, adjust date and time
[06:13] <Knowerrors> I need a cli command to do it
[06:14] <Shadyman> O
[06:14] <Shadyman> I don't know, then.
[06:14] <Knowerrors> it won't let me do admin mode at the moment, thats a seperate problem
[06:14] <dissidentcitizen> set the timezone on the "configure clock" when you right click on the clock
[06:14] <sampan> knowerrors  yes, that was a bug in the initial breezy release with admin mode.  you should update your system and it will work
[06:15] <Knowerrors> what file do I need to update?  Im on dialup and don't want to update whole thing
[06:15] <sampan> knowerrors  probably the kde packages (not app ones)
[06:16] <kkathman> Knowerrors - make sure your sources.list is set properly and then do the adept updater
[06:16] <dissidentcitizen> instead of system settings try using good 'ol kcontrol, type "kdesu kcontrol" in the terminal and try using that to change it
[06:17] <Knowerrors> tried that also
[06:17] <Knowerrors> won't let me get into admin mode for clock/date
[06:17] <sampan> knowerrors  i had the same problem at first -- there is a work-around to set your clock to the right timezone (i'll post the url in a moment -- it's to a mepis forum), but you should update to fix the admin-mode because that's a major break
[06:18] <kkathman> Knowerrors: you have to update first
[06:18] <RichardC> i've recently installed the linuxant modem drivers in kubuntu, but i cant connect to the internet. i had a similar problem in ubuntu, but i could work around it by using the networking window in gnome
[06:18] <RichardC> anyone know how i can get kubuntu to connect?
[06:18] <RichardC> kppp is what i've tried to connect with, and it doesnt seem to work
[06:18] <sampan> knowerrors  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678  the instructions in the fifth post or so worked for me to set my clock -- just adjust to using sudo instead of root is all
[06:19] <Knowerrors> thx sampan
[06:19] <Knowerrors> RichardC: I had that same problem
[06:19] <RichardC> it finds the modem, dials, talks with the server, and then before the connection is established, it disconnects with some ppp error
[06:19] <Knowerrors> create the file it asks you to as empty
[06:19] <sampan> knowerrors  sure -- but be warned, administering your pc will be MUCH easier if you take the time to update and get the root of the problem fixed (pun intended)
[06:19] <RichardC> Knowerrors: i dont recall it asking me to create a file
[06:20] <Knowerrors> then go to /etc/ppp/options and comment out the auth line
[06:20] <RichardC> ahhh
[06:20] <RichardC> alright
[06:20] <RichardC> ill give it a shot
[06:20] <RichardC> thanks
[06:20] <Knowerrors> sampan: I will for sure, seems crazy they left such a big bug as admin-mode like that in the breezy cd
[06:21] <kkathman> Knowerrors: they fixed it almost immediately in the first update
[06:21] <kkathman> its been fixed for months
[06:21] <RichardC> Knowerrors: anything else i might want to know before i reboot?
[06:22] <Shadyman> Is there another Konqueror-like file manager?
[06:22] <Knowerrors> yeah, they just shouldn't have rushed it, and the thing with the modem is really bad for dialup users like RichardC and me, espc if thats your only way to go online
[06:22] <kkathman> Shadyman: uh yes...krusader
[06:22] <Knowerrors> RichardC: don't think so, boot away!
[06:22] <Shadyman> kkathman: Besides Krusader :)
[06:22] <kkathman> sampan: did you upgrade to the new kernel yet?
[06:22] <Shadyman> kkathman: I'm thinking, Windowy, like Konqueror or Nautilus
[06:22] <RichardC> wow. i thought i was the only one without access to broadband
[06:22] <RichardC> heh
[06:23] <kkathman> Shadyman: krusader is a kde app...and "windowy"
[06:23] <sampan> kkathman  lol nope -- i don't want to ruin my uptime!  :X
[06:23] <kkathman> sampan:  ok
[06:23] <RichardC> bbiab
[06:23] <sampan> i will though, next time i need to reboot
[06:24] <sampan> kkathman  will it just add the kernal as a new boot entry? or will it replace my old kernel completely?
[06:24] <Shadyman> kkathman: Is there a way to change Krusader from a list-type to an icon-type display on the right?
[06:24] <kkathman> Shadyman: no
[06:24] <Shadyman> kkathman: :(
[06:24] <nalioth> that is the beauty of krusader
[06:24] <kkathman> sampan: will probably replace the kernel
[06:25] <Shadyman> Think they will ever fix the bugs in Konqueror?
[06:25] <Shadyman> The SIGSERV errors have been around since RH9 days.
[06:25] <sampan> kkathman  drat ... i'm always afraid of updating stuff like that (i updated firefox once in hoary and it broke; i updated in breezy and it broke scim -- i have bad luck with updates!)
[06:26] <spstarr_home> is kicker broken with kmail? :)
[06:26] <spstarr_home> maximize kmail, click an email and kicker dies
[06:27] <kkathman> ouch
[06:27] <spstarr_home> kde 3.2-3.5
[06:27] <spstarr_home> consistantly :)
[06:28] <kkathman> let me try here spstarr_home
[06:28] <spstarr_home> if i could get a crashdump with symbols
[06:28] <spstarr_home> i dont know does kubuntu provide a stub deb for symbols?
[06:29] <Shadyman> Oh wow. amaroK skips like.. something that skips a lot.
[06:29] <kkathman> spstarr_home: so you minimized it...then maximize it...and click an email?
[06:29] <spstarr_home> something like this yes
[06:30] <kkathman> nope...works fine here
[06:30] <kkathman> I minimized...maxmimized and clicked on several emails
[06:30] <spstarr_home> sometimes not always
[06:30] <kkathman> kicker is still running fine
[06:31] <kkathman> I dont use kmail anymore personally
[06:31] <spstarr_home> what is the name of the debug deb for kicker/kdelibs-bin?
[06:31] <jahshua> can someone tell me how to close ports with kubuntu
[06:32] <jahshua> netstat lists port 1025 as listening
[06:32] <jahshua> :/
[06:32] <crimsun> spstarr_home: kdelibs4c2-dbg
[06:32] <spstarr_home> merci.. I must find out why kicker keeps dying
[06:33] <Shadyman> spstarr_home: While you're at it, find out about Konqueror for me :)
[06:33] <Shadyman> hhe
[06:33] <spstarr_home> hrm
[06:33] <spstarr_home> apt cant find that
[06:34] <spstarr_home> is that under a different source?
[06:35] <Tachyon> Okay, so how do I set Krusader as the default file manager now instead of Konqueror?
[06:35] <crimsun> spstarr_home: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libdevel/kdelibs4c2-dbg
[06:35] <crimsun> spstarr_home: (universe)
[06:35] <spstarr_home> oh breezy
[06:35] <spstarr_home> hrm
[06:35] <spstarr_home> no dapper symbols yet?
[06:35] <crimsun> c2a-dbg
[06:36] <crimsun> dapper has undergone the libstdc++ allocator transition already
[06:36] <spstarr_home> got it
[06:38] <spstarr_home> forgot about that
[06:38] <Shadyman> Oh weird.
[06:39] <Shadyman> In Kubuntu I can't use my function key buttons as keyboard buttons
[06:39] <Shadyman> like, Fn+Home (play), etc.
[06:39] <propagandhi> Shadyman - join the club
[06:39] <Shadyman> propagandhi: Gnome does that by default :(
[06:39] <kkathman> Shadyman: what do you mean?
[06:40] <Shadyman> kkathman: You know how you can set keyboard shortcuts for things.
[06:40] <kkathman> yes
[06:40] <Shadyman> I can't select Fn+Play, Fn+Stop, etc
[06:40] <Shadyman> Oh wait.
[06:40] <kkathman> ohhh you mean the extended keys
[06:40] <Shadyman> yeah.
[06:40] <Shadyman> Maybe i didnt configure the Fn button right.
[06:40] <kkathman> yeah I havent found a soution for that either
[06:41] <spstarr_home> hrm, crimsun the deb shows nothing in it ;)
[06:41] <spstarr_home> dpkg -L shows a copyright and changelog
[06:43] <crimsun> file a bug.
[06:44] <propagandhi> does anybody know much about how u map keys after seeing the response in xev?
[06:51] <jahshua> can someone tell me how to close ports with kubuntu
[06:51] <jahshua> netstat lists port 1025 as listening
[06:52] <jahshua> should i be concerned about that
[06:52] <nalioth> jahshua: but what is behind it listening?
[06:52] <nalioth> jahshua: there is no need to close anything, you are fine
[06:52] <jahshua> ok thanks
[06:52] <jahshua> i was worried
[06:53] <jahshua> is it easy to be hacked in with linux?
[06:54] <jahshua> i have firestarter firewall, dont really know how to use it though :/
[06:54] <RichardC> thank you Knowerrors
[06:54] <spstarr_home> in firefox and konq i dont see the full bug form
[06:54] <spstarr_home> hrm
[06:55] <nalioth> jahshua: not really. i think firestarter is unnecessary
[06:55] <jahshua> really?
[06:55] <jahshua> wow
[06:55] <sampan> jahshua  no it's not easy.  esp. with ubuntu which has no services listening to the outside world by default.  a firewall with a default ubuntu install is probably redundant protection as no ports are open anyway
[06:55] <jahshua> ok
[06:56] <jahshua> so even if someone has your ip they cant do much?
[06:56] <sampan> i installed firestarter right away too -- and i've kept it, but only because long-term windows use conditioned me to "feel" that it's necessary
[06:56] <jahshua> yeh
[06:56] <spstarr_home> is bugzilla 'depreciated' for filing bugs?
[06:56] <jahshua> me too ;/
[06:56] <spstarr_home> or launchpad is the way to go now
[06:57] <kkathman> spstarr_home: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:58] <spstarr_home> seems broke
[06:58] <spstarr_home> the rendering of page doesnt work
[06:58] <kkathman> its a plain page
[06:58] <jahshua> someone told me that kubuntu has plug n play, is that true ?
[06:58] <spstarr_home> when i fill in the fields i see it wants more fields that dont exist
[06:58] <spstarr_home> (the file a new bug page)
[06:58] <kkathman> ??
[06:58] <kinfo> what?
[06:59] <spstarr_home> Component Needed
[06:59] <spstarr_home> 
[06:59] <spstarr_home>    You must choose a component to file this bug in. If necessary, just guess.
[06:59] <spstarr_home>    Please press Back and try again.
[06:59] <spstarr_home> i dont see 'component' field
[06:59] <spstarr_home> a simple bug filling in page but not the full blown one
[07:00] <jahshua> was someone trying to message me ??
[07:02] <kkathman> spstarr_home: I dont get that at all :)
[07:02] <spstarr_home> in firefox or konq?!
[07:03] <nalioth> spstarr_home: please read the /topic and use a pastebin for pasting
[07:06] <Knowerrors> Just did an apt-get update and got this message http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/483807 , anybody know how to fix this?
[07:07] <kkathman> Knowerrors: start by removing the "us"  and just make it "archive.ubuntu....
[07:08] <RichardC> where can i find the default kubuntu 5.10 repositories list, online?
[07:08] <nalioth> !sources
[07:08] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:10] <Knowerrors> kkathman: that shouldn't matter, I have other repos with us in front that went just fine
[07:10] <RichardC> should i use the US repositories?
[07:10] <RichardC> i remember hearing that they were notorious for not working correctly...
[07:10] <Knowerrors> I used the source-o-matic to make mine
[07:10] <nalioth> RichardC: they are notorious. go with what you know.
[07:10] <RichardC> Knowerrors: i love you , man. im online in linux. thank you so much!
[07:11] <kkathman> Knowerrors: well maybe so...I used to have the US in mine and had some probs
[07:11] <RichardC> any suggested alternatives?
[07:11] <RichardC> i think i used canadas (cn?) last time
[07:11] <Knowerrors> kkathman: Im tryin with us deleted, well see if it goes
[07:12] <kkathman> yeah thats odd Knowerrors  I know it doesnt make sense
[07:12] <Knowerrors> RichardC: no prob, I suffered through fixing that myself from searching the kubuntu forums
[07:12] <nalioth> RichardC: just archives.blah will be fine
[07:13] <sampan> just delete the "us."?
[07:13] <RichardC> alright
[07:13] <RichardC> thank you
[07:14] <RichardC> and should i use the backports repository?
[07:14] <RichardC> it seems like a good idea to me, but not sure
[07:15] <Knowerrors> !ntpdate
[07:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Knowerrors
[07:17] <Knowerrors> Linik: I use backports, no problems at all
[07:17] <Knowerrors> hehe
[07:18] <Knowerrors> whats up with ubotu not knowing ntpdate
[07:18] <sampan> !info ntpdate
[07:18] <ubotu> ntpdate: (The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers), section net, is important. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 42 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[07:20] <RichardC> this is gonna take a while
[07:21] <RichardC> i think im gonna like ubotu
[07:21] <RichardC> anyways.... so, anything i should do to help speed up my system
[07:21] <RichardC> oooh
[07:22] <RichardC> where is a good guide online for customizing your kernel
[07:28] <Knowerrors> so anyone know how to stop ntpdate from loading at boot?
[07:29] <nalioth> Knowerrors: BUM
[07:30] <nalioth> !bum
[07:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[07:31] <RichardC> alright
[07:31] <RichardC> i needed to know that too
[07:31] <RichardC> can i stop kubuntu from trying to connect to a network at boot with bum too?
[07:32] <Link`sAdventure> Hello. I'm having a problem installing kubuntu on my notebook.
[07:33] <Link`sAdventure> Specs: AMD Sempron 3200+, 1.8GHz w/ 1.6GHz FSB, 512MB RAM, ATi Radeon Xpress 200m w/ 128MB shared v-ram, 40GB HDD, 24x CD Burner/DVD-ROM combo drive
[07:34] <Link`sAdventure> Anyway, everytime I boot into the CD, the kernel boots, but then instead of going into an installer, I get presented with a blank screen, then eventually my drives spin down, and I need to restart. What's up with this ?
[07:34] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell Link`sAdventure about verify
[07:37] <Link`sAdventure> OK, thanks.
[07:39] <Knowerrors> nalioth_zZz: I know about bum, haven't installed it yet though, just want to know how to do it from command line or config file edit
[07:40] <RichardC> is there a way to set synaptic to only download one thing at a time?
[07:40] <RichardC> i've glanced through the options, but didnt see anything
[07:40] <RichardC> maybe a setting i should change for apt?
[07:47] <RichardC> why is so much system memory being used? all i have open is x-chat, synaptic (updating package list), and ksysguard
[07:47] <RichardC> i have 1gb of ram
[07:47] <RichardC> and 783mb of it is being used
[07:47] <RichardC> thats over double of what is used in windows
[07:50] <Link`sAdventure> I forgot to point out earlier that the CD worked on my desktop... in fact I'm using kubuntu on it right now and it works great :)
[08:14] (sampan/#kubuntu) keyword search brought up two whole screenfuls worth of packages :/
[08:14] <MonoJ0ker> yeah tightvncserver looks like what i want
[08:14] <MonoJ0ker> so i just sudo apt-get?
[08:15] <sampan> sudo apt-get install packagename
[08:15] <sampan> assuming you've enabled the repositories
[08:15] <MonoJ0ker> "couldn't find package tightvncserver"
[08:15] <sampan> you probably need to enable the repos
[08:15] <sampan> !repositories
[08:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:16] <MonoJ0ker> bash: !repositories: event not found
[08:16] <MonoJ0ker> i installed firefox ok using apt-get
[08:16] <MonoJ0ker> that means the repositories are ok?
[08:17] <sampan> read the wiki at the link ubotu posted -- you might not have universe and multiverse enabled
[08:17] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[08:18] <Link`sAdventure> Uhh... can I ask something (it's unrelated to kubuntu, I know.)
[08:18] <Link`sAdventure> is ubotu a bot
[08:18] <MonoJ0ker> ok i don't even have the menu
[08:18] <MonoJ0ker> do i need to logon as root?
[08:18] <sampan> monoj0ker, it's pretty -- you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file within adept (Adept menu --> manage repositories), or with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or with kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:19] <MonoJ0ker> none of what you're saying there makes sense sorry
[08:19] <MonoJ0ker> i need a total n00b guide
[08:19] <MonoJ0ker> i just wanted to get vnc on here so i can get onto the linux box remotely from windows
[08:19] <sampan> it's okay.  do you have a konsole open?
[08:19] <MonoJ0ker> yeah
[08:19] <sampan> and link`sadventure, yes, ubotu is a bot
[08:20] <MonoJ0ker> i need to know how to logon as root though
[08:20] <Link`sAdventure> ok, just asking.
[08:20] <Link`sAdventure> type su
[08:20] <sampan> monoj0ker  type: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[08:20] <Link`sAdventure> then your user password
[08:20] <MonoJ0ker> i have set a sudo password but is the username to logon gjust "su"?
[08:20] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[08:20] <nalioth_zZz> MonoJ0ker: help.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <nalioth_zZz> Link`sAdventure: dont do that
[08:20] <sampan> no need to login as root, just use sudo
[08:20] <Link`sAdventure> Why not
[08:20] <AoP> when ti prompts for password after you type sudo
[08:20] <nalioth_zZz> Link`sAdventure: kubuntu uses the sudo model (kdesu for gui apps)
[08:20] <AoP> You use your current account password
[08:20] <Link`sAdventure> ah.
[08:20] <MonoJ0ker> done sampan
[08:21] <nalioth_zZz> Link`sAdventure: a root account breaks functionality
[08:21] <MonoJ0ker> it didn't prompt for a sudo password though
[08:21] <sampan> monoj0ker  okay, that made a backup in case something gets borked.  now in console: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <MonoJ0ker> because i've already entered it during this session?
[08:21] <nalioth_zZz> MonoJ0ker: correct
[08:21] <MonoJ0ker> ok so asking for password
[08:21] <AoP> lmfao poor nalioth_zZz never gets to sleep :P
[08:21] <Shadyman> Woot, i fixed my laptop hotkeys.
[08:21] <MonoJ0ker> need the su pass yeah?
[08:21] <AoP> His super linux powers are always needed =)
[08:21] <sampan> monoj0ker  yep, put in your own password
[08:22] <callie> oh yeah, hi guys! :D
[08:22] <sampan> aop, yeah even when nalioth is zZz, he's here typing :D
[08:22] <Shadyman> sampan: Yeah.
[08:22] <MonoJ0ker> ok so it's come up with a kate window
[08:22] <AoP> =D
[08:22] <MonoJ0ker> only 2 lines in the list aren't hashed
[08:23] <MonoJ0ker> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[08:23] <MonoJ0ker> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[08:23] <RichardC> is there a way for me to get another license key from linuxant without paying another $20?
[08:23] <sampan> monoj0ker  okay, that will have launched a text editor with your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  go down the list of lines and in all the lines with "universe" or "multiverse" in them remove the # at the start
[08:24] <MonoJ0ker> done
[08:24] <MonoJ0ker> saved
[08:24] <sampan> okay, save the file and quit kate.
[08:25] <sampan> then in console type: sudo apt-get update
[08:25] <MonoJ0ker> done
[08:25] <MonoJ0ker> linux is easy when someone else is doing it :-\
[08:25] <sampan> when it's done downloading all the package lists, then you can type: sudo apt-get install package-name-that-you-want
[08:25] <Shadyman> How do i make a command run when KDE loads?
[08:26] <Shadyman> Would that be considered a "Service"?
[08:26] <MonoJ0ker> ok now it's installing tightvncserver
[08:26] <kkathman> Shadyman: several ways actually
[08:26] <sampan> :D
[08:26] <kkathman> best way is to put a symlink in your Autoplay
[08:27] <sampan> monoj0ker  you can also search from console (instead of via web): apt-cache search search.string.to.look.for  ... or you can show the detailed info about a package with: apt-cache show package.name
[08:27] <Shadyman> kkathman: Where's the Autoplay?
[08:27] <sampan> apt is the bee's knees
[08:27] <kkathman> autostart I mean
[08:27] <Shadyman> kkathman: Where's the Autostart?
[08:27] <MonoJ0ker> i just can't find the program LOL
[08:27] <kkathman> Shadyman: ~/,kde/Autostart
[08:27] <kkathman> create a symlink and point it to there
[08:27] <AoP> kkathman:  what do I do now?
[08:28] <Shadyman> kkathman: Thanks :D
[08:28] <sampan> monoj0ker i don't know a thing about vnc. but if it's an application, very likely you can start it at console with just the name of the executable.  or via kmenu (if it put an entry there somewhere)
[08:29] <MonoJ0ker> how do i tell if a service like vnc is running?
[08:29] <MonoJ0ker> it tried to execute but i got a fatal server error
[08:30] <sampan> monoj0ker  from cli you can do ps aux | grep string.to.search.for ... or you can run ksysguard and look at the process table.  sounds like vnc might need to be configured before it runs properly (and that's something i can't help at all with)
[08:30] <MonoJ0ker> i can config it just need it to fire up first
[08:31] <MonoJ0ker> but without being logged in as root i can't access the config file can i?
[08:31] <sampan> ubuntu doesn't use "root" logins.  you just use sudo or kdesu (for GUI) when you need root-powers. and in both cases you just use your own password
[08:31] <callie> how can i downgrade firefox 1.0.7? it seems to be really really buggy
[08:32] <MonoJ0ker> hmm
[08:32] <MonoJ0ker> so where would the tightvncserver "files" be?
[08:33] <MonoJ0ker> what i mean is the equivalent of the windows .exe file so i can open the application?
[08:33] <MonoJ0ker> or at least the config files
[08:33] <Snake__> MonoJ0ker: Just type the program name in the terminal
[08:34] <MonoJ0ker> seems not to work
[08:34] <MonoJ0ker> something about path to the fonts
[08:34] <Shadyman> night guys.
[08:34] <Snake__> Do you have the fonts installed?
[08:34] <kkathman> night Shadyman :)
[08:34] <Snake__> Night Shadyman
[08:34] <sampan> night shadyman
[08:34] <MonoJ0ker> it's looking for terminal font
[08:34] <Snake__> Is it installed?
[08:34] <Snake__> lol
[08:34] <MonoJ0ker> Fatal server error:
[08:34] <MonoJ0ker> could not open default font 'fixed'
[08:35] <MonoJ0ker> sorry fixed
[08:35] <MonoJ0ker> i don't know
[08:35] <MonoJ0ker> it's a brand new install
[08:35] <Snake__> MonoJ0ker: you can also press Alt+F2 and try to run the program
[08:35] <MonoJ0ker> i guess not :(
[08:35] <Snake__> (Type the program name)
[08:35] <MonoJ0ker> can i see a list of fonts that are installed?
[08:36] <Snake__> Hmm
[08:36] <Snake__> not sure
[08:36] <sampan> monoj0ker  there's very likely a simple config file that you can edit to set a font path or an installed default font -- but probably someone with some expertise with vnc would be best to help with that.  fonts are in: system settings --> font installer
[08:37] <MonoJ0ker> i have vnc expertise but just need to know how to get to the config file/folder
[08:37] <MonoJ0ker> i do not know where linux puts it's application files
[08:37] <MonoJ0ker> let me google the error
[08:37] <MonoJ0ker> might give some clues
[08:38] <sampan> uncle google is good -- might ask in #ubuntu too (larger channel so maybe someone there would know) and could also search on the ubuntu forums
[08:42] <sampan> monoj0ker  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82548.html
[08:42] <MonoJ0ker> [17:40]  <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Yes. I ran into that issue. There is a font file that is missing a space. It breaks the whole thing. I can't remember which file, but it is like a one-line edit.
[08:42] <sampan> at the bottom of the thread is a post that might have the solution
[08:43] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[08:43] <MonoJ0ker> i'll give that a try
[08:43] <MonoJ0ker> so i open the file in kate same as before?
[08:44] <sampan> yeah -- if you get a permission denied when opening or trying to save, then start it with kdesu kate file.name
[08:44] <sampan> that file may be owned by root or have restrictive permissions -- not sure
[08:45] <MonoJ0ker> it's open and all lines are # at the beginning
[08:45] <MonoJ0ker> does that seemright?
[08:45] <RichardC> if i remove konversation, synaptic says it needs to remove kubuntu-desktop. will this remove the entire package?  is it safe to remove konversation?
[08:46] <sampan> monoj0ker  i don't know.  i'd edit the file with the fix from the forum and see if it helps.  if so, problem-solved, if not, at least you have one more piece of info
[08:47] <sampan> richardc  kubuntu-desktop is just an empty 'meta-package' that depends on all the kde stuff and apps. removing the meta-package won't hurt
[08:47] <RichardC> alright
[08:47] <RichardC> thanks
[08:47] <sampan> sure
[08:47] <MonoJ0ker> ok edited and saved
[08:48] <MonoJ0ker> now when i type it at a kommand prompt it says:
[08:48] <MonoJ0ker> Creating default startup script /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:48] <MonoJ0ker> Starting applications specified in /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:48] <MonoJ0ker> Log file is /home/liam/.vnc/ross:1.log
[08:48] <RichardC> xine is a good replacement for kaffeine, right?
[08:48] <sampan> monoj0ker seems like it's running then i would guess.
[08:49] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[08:49] <MonoJ0ker> how do i check running services/apps again?
[08:49] <sampan> richardc  kaffeine is just the app -- xine is the decoder ... i use xine as the decoder WITHIN kaffeine
[08:50] <sampan> monoj0ker  you can do it GUI: find ksysguard in your kmenu or, CLI: ps aux|grep string.to.search.for
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> got it
[08:51] <sampan> :)  oh, and one etiquette thing, try not to paste lines in here, ubuntu/kubuntu use a pastebin on the web for that
[08:51] <sampan> !pastebin
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> sorry
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> didn't know how many would get me a flood kick :(
[08:51] <sampan> no worries -- most people don't know :)
[08:52] <sampan> err, don't know until they post a bunch of lines that is ;)
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> so all i need now is thius machine's ip
[08:53] <sampan> the people in #ubuntu will steer you right.  just sometimes they might assume you're using gnome instead of kde ... but that's usually only a problem for GUI stuff -- if you stick to CLI, it's all pretty much the same
[08:53] <RichardC> is there something like bum, but for kde?
[08:56] <sampan> richardc  i think system settings --> services ... use admin mode and you can disable/enable services at boot time.
[08:57] <sampan> not sure if that's exactly what you want/need -- but i disabled the bluetooth daemon running at boot from there
[08:57] <RichardC> thats one of the things
[08:59] <RichardC> cupsys is for printers, right?
[08:59] <sampan> yep
[09:00] <RichardC> ok
[09:01] <RichardC> sampan: at bootup, it still tries to establish a network connection.  what service does this?
[09:01] <MonoJ0ker> ok it says remote desktop will only work in a gnome session?
[09:02] <sampan> richardc  i don't know to be honest.  you could google the suspicious looking ones to find out
[09:04] <MonoJ0ker> anyone tell me how to start a gnome logon session?
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> gnome-session
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> provided you have GNOME installed.
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> anyway
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> I got a problem
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> OK
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> I got kubuntu 64 installed
[09:05] <callie> lol
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> :D
[09:05] <sampan> monoj0ker  to logon in gnome you would have to install ubuntu-desktop, log out and log back in (click session and choose gnome as session-type)
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> But
[09:05] <Link`sAdventure> It's not letting me into KDE
[09:06] <Link`sAdventure> It instead took me to a screen where you see the status of the bootup
[09:06] <Link`sAdventure> like mounting such and such, starting such and such program, ect
[09:06] <Link`sAdventure> So I press CTRL+ALT+F4
[09:06] <Link`sAdventure> er
[09:06] <Link`sAdventure> F1
[09:07] <Link`sAdventure> login
[09:07] <Link`sAdventure> type startx
[09:07] <Link`sAdventure> then it returns me back to a shell
[09:07] <Link`sAdventure> help... !
[09:08] <callie> any error messages?
[09:08] <kkathman> hi there callie - ltns :)
[09:08] <callie> hey  kkathman !
[09:08] <Link`sAdventure> Yeah
[09:08] <callie> ok, can we see it?
[09:09] <Link`sAdventure> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  DRTScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
[09:09] <callie> Link`sAdventure: try to help us to help you ;)
[09:09] <Link`sAdventure> (EE) RADEON(0): XAAInit error
[09:09] <Link`sAdventure> yes.
[09:09] <callie> ok, first off, have you googled this error or looked in any forums?
[09:10] <Link`sAdventure> no, I just got it.
[09:10] <callie> ok, well google away my dear fellow
[09:10] <callie> im not saying no one here will know, but it saves on the leg work and im guessing thats a pretty common issue
[09:11] <Link`sAdventure> hmm...
[09:12] <callie> what kind of graphics card do you have Link`sAdventure ?
[09:12] <Link`sAdventure> ATi Radeon Xpress 200m
[09:12] <callie> git
[09:13] <Link`sAdventure> ?
[09:13] <callie> anyone who has a better computer than me is a git
[09:13] <callie> which is most people to be honest
[09:13] <Link`sAdventure> Oh. >.>;
[09:13] <callie> :D
[09:13] <Link`sAdventure> well it's nothing great
[09:13] <Link`sAdventure> it's got 128MB shared v-ram
[09:13] <MonoJ0ker> running gnome on kubuntu makes it pretty much ubuntu doesn't it?
[09:13] <Link`sAdventure> oh, and suprisingly google didn't turn up anything o.o;
[09:14] <callie> hmm, i've found lots
[09:14] <Link`sAdventure> Think I should go sudo apt-get install ati-drivers
[09:14] <Link`sAdventure> yeah, so did I, I used the second error >.>;
[09:15] <callie> www.ubuntuforums.org is  wealth of info and help too
[09:15] <sampan> monoj0ker  yes.  running kde on ubuntu makes it kubuntu (which is what i do).  the nice thing is that either way works -- you can have both installed.  i'd be surprised if vnc truly won't work on kde though -- it's probably just another config file to change -- but most likely you'll need someone with vnc (ON LINUX/KDE) expertise
[09:18] <callie> anyone here ever use Knoppix?
[09:18] <callie> there was a great vnc package on there
[09:18] <callie> can remember what it was called though :S
[09:19] <Link`sAdventure> wow, duesn't ati suck in linux
[09:19] <Link`sAdventure> lol
[09:19] <kkathman> callie: I tried it briefly
[09:19] <Link`sAdventure> doesn't^
[09:19] <kkathman> callie its a live cd system only really
[09:19] <Link`sAdventure> :p
[09:19] <sampan> monoj0ker  btw, here's another link for fixing that font problem (much smaller fix: only one line change in the conf file): http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Tightvnc
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> tightvnc is fixed just won't let me connect
[09:20] <callie> kkathman: yeah, i had it installed, but using it lead me to Kubuntu and confirmed my love of all things debian ;
[09:20] <callie> ;)
[09:21] <callie> MonoJ0ker: maybe your problem is at the other end?
[09:21] <kkathman> callie: yah making it a "real" linux system is rather untenable to say the least
[09:21] <callie> as i discovered kkathman
[09:22] <kkathman> callie: DSL is kinda cute and nice tho
[09:22] <kkathman> works really good on very small systems that you want to use for, say, a file or printer server
[09:22] <callie> lol, thats what i run at work, although im not sure if im supposed to kkathman
[09:23] <callie> i have a pendrive with it installed on, i just cant stand using M$ i only really use it for web browsing etc
[09:23] <MonoJ0ker> don't think so
[09:23] <kkathman> haha
[09:23] <MonoJ0ker> i can vnc from/to any windows machine on the network
[09:24] <callie> cool, MonoJ0ker just checking
[09:25] <RichardC> how do i add mp3 support to amaroK?
[09:25] <RichardC> hmm
[09:25] <RichardC> better question
[09:26] <RichardC> it turns out i already have support
[09:26] <RichardC> however, when i scanned my mp3 directory, amarok didnt add anything to its library
[09:26] <callie> lol, yeah it depends on what engine you use RichardC
[09:27] <callie> i get better results using the xine engine
[09:27] <callie> RichardC: sudo apt-get install amarok-engines if you haven't already
[09:28] <callie> RichardC: or sudo apt-get install amarok-xine if you just want to try the xine engine
[09:28] <callie> gstreamer doesnt natively support mp3 as i recall
[09:29] <callie> and even when it does it sucked
[09:29] <callie> <----- sound engineer
[09:29] <callie> :D
[09:29] <sampan> amarok is weird for me.  some files it plays with 2% cpu and others 10-30% ... doesn't matter mp3 ogg ... and not correlated to bitrate either
[09:30] <callie> that is odd
[09:30] <sampan> beep/xmms never use more than 2% to play the same files
[09:30] <sampan> and i have all the visualizations turned off in amarok
[09:30] <sampan> so weird
[09:31] <callie> never noticed that myself, im gonna take a look sampan
[09:32] <Link`sAdventure> wow this thing doesn't like my video card
[09:32] <sampan> lol k ... i only noticed it because my pc does protein folding for F@H (med research) and work-units get turned in a lot slower when non-folding apps eat a lot of cpu cycles for hours on end
[09:33] <sampan> so i started watching top a lot -- but then when amarok was being so erratic it really puzzled me
[09:33] <Link`sAdventure> night
[09:33] <callie> k, i need to reboot brb
[09:42] <penguinzdr> anyone live here?
[09:42] <sampan> <-- alive but not kicking and not much help
[09:43] <blackflag> hello all
[09:43] <penguinzdr> hi blackflag
[09:44] <blackflag> can someone tell me where I can find the kernel-source for 2.6.12-9 ?
[09:44] <penguinzdr> in adept
[09:44] <penguinzdr> search for "kernel-source"
[09:44] <blackflag> no it isnt in !
[09:44] <blackflag> there is a 2.6.12-10
[09:44] <penguinzdr> hmm... i got it from adept... strange
[09:45] <penguinzdr> i dunno than
[09:50] <blackflag> is there anywhere a gui in KDE where I can edit the kernel?
[10:00] <callie> gone an buggered it up aint i!
[10:20] <penguinzdr> i lock my screen. i move the mouse to unlock it and i enter my correct password. then, in the dialog box appears a message: unlocking failed. why?
[10:23] <Snake__> penguinzdr: you dont know ur password
[10:23] <Snake__> :)
[10:25] <penguinzdr> oh, hi snake!
[10:25] <penguinzdr> did you get driver's license?
[10:26] <Snake__> Motorcycle
[10:26] <Snake__> Yelp
[10:26] <penguinzdr> congrats!
[10:26] <penguinzdr> hm.. i think i know my pass...
[10:26] <Snake__> Thanks
[10:26] <Snake__> I was kidding :)
[10:26] <penguinzdr> when i log in, the password is correct..
[10:27] <Snake__> Hmmm I dunno man
[10:27] <Snake__> My lock doesnt work at all lol
[10:29] <penguinzdr> it's bettter than me
[10:30] <penguinzdr> today, i've restarted my X server because of that bug :(
[10:30] <penguinzdr> 3 times restarted
[10:30] <Snake__> Hmm
[10:30] <Snake__> Stop locking?
[10:30] <Snake__> lol
[10:31] <penguinzdr> the other bug is that my screen llocks when i click kbfx button :(
[10:32] <Snake__> kbfx...where is that button
[10:32] <penguinzdr> kbfx applet i mean
[10:32] <penguinzdr> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24898
[10:32] <Snake__> Hmmmm dunno lol
[10:33] <Snake__> thats sick
[10:33] <Snake__> That is discusting.
[10:33] <Snake__> Im ashamed.
[10:33] <Snake__> lol
[10:34] <penguinzdr> re
[10:34] <Snake__> [04:33]  <Snake__> thats sick
[10:34] <Snake__> [04:33]  <Snake__> That is discusting.
[10:34] <Snake__> [04:33]  <Snake__> Im ashamed.
[10:34] <Snake__> [04:33]  <Snake__> lol
[10:34] <Snake__> lol
[10:35] <penguinzdr> when was that?
[10:35] <Snake__> Just now when I looked at thos screeny
[10:36] <Snake__> lol
[10:37] <penguinzdr> lol in which timezone are you?
[10:37] <Snake__> eastern
[10:37] <penguinzdr> i'm on eastern too!
[10:37] <penguinzdr> EET, right?
[10:38] <Snake__> EET?
[10:38] <Snake__> bbr
[10:38] <Snake__> brb*
[10:38] <penguinzdr> eastern european timezone
[10:38] <penguinzdr> ok
[10:38] <Snake__> Oh not EET
[10:38] <Snake__> Easter american :)
[10:38] <Snake__> lol
[10:39] <penguinzdr> lol
[10:39] <Snake__> brb
[10:39] <penguinzdr> oki-doki
[10:39] <Snake__> alright
[10:40] <Snake__> Yea its like 4:40 here
[10:40] <Snake__> lol
[10:40] <penguinzdr> here is like 11:40
[10:40] <Snake__> lol
[10:41] <penguinzdr> and in japan is.... 19:41!
[10:41] <penguinzdr> lol
[10:41] <Snake__> sydney is 8:41!
[10:41] <Snake__> lol
[10:41] <penguinzdr> 8:41? am or pm?
[10:41] <Snake__> Hmm pm
[10:42] <penguinzdr> ah ok
[10:43] <Snake__> I got a radio :)
[10:43] <Snake__> just got done with it tonight
[10:43] <penguinzdr> web radio?
[10:43] <Snake__> http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/playradio.m3u
[10:43] <Snake__> of course
[10:43] <penguinzdr> what's the genre?
[10:43] <Snake__> mainly rock
[10:43] <Snake__> with a bit of rap
[10:44] <hgaa> hi people
[10:44] <Snake__> and other things
[10:44] <penguinzdr> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao!
[10:44] <penguinzdr> rap!
[10:44] <penguinzdr> blah!
[10:44] <Snake__> lol, only by request
[10:44] <penguinzdr> any symphonic metal?
[10:44] <Snake__> Like dimmu?
[10:44] <Snake__> or COF?
[10:44] <hgaa> ppl
[10:44] <penguinzdr> no, like Nightwish
[10:44] <Snake__> Oh
[10:44] <Snake__> Yes I got nightwish on there
[10:44] <hgaa> im in ma laptop
[10:44] <Snake__> few bands like that
[10:45] <Snake__> Dimmu is playin now
[10:45] <hgaa> and can i connect to internet from USB cable??
[10:45] <penguinzdr> can i play radio in amarok?
[10:45] <Snake__> penguinzdr: I dunno, test it out for me :)
[10:45] <Snake__> hgaa: Not that I know of...
[10:45] <hgaa> and another thing
[10:45] <penguinzdr> w8 a sec...
[10:45] <hgaa> and wireless?
[10:46] <hgaa> internet?
[10:46] <hgaa> can i?
[10:46] <hgaa> using kubuntu
[10:46] <Snake__> wirelesss net?
[10:46] <hgaa> yep
[10:46] <Snake__> yes but its a bitch to set up
[10:46] <hgaa> kubuntu has a program for that but i cant turn on me wireless intergrated card of ma laptop
[10:46] <hgaa> i think i need a driver
[10:47] <Snake__> hgaa: probly
[10:47] <hgaa> but i dont have a linux driver
[10:47] <Snake__> What kind of card
[10:47] <penguinzdr> Snake__:it works!
[10:47] <Snake__> penguinzdr: Sweetness!
[10:47] <hgaa> intergrated wireless card
[10:47] <Snake__> Enjoy :)
[10:47] <hgaa> but to turn it on
[10:47] <Snake__> hgaa: you need to know what kind so that you can get the drivers for it
[10:47] <hgaa> need a driver
[10:47] <hgaa> what kind
[10:47] <hgaa> hmmm
[10:48] <hgaa> its says
[10:48] <Snake__> but I can't help u now, its way to early (late for me lol)
[10:48] <hgaa> 802.11b/g wireless lan
[10:48] <hgaa> plzz
[10:48] <hgaa> i really need help
[10:49] <Snake__> hgaa: I would but i'm really not that good, if you can come back later, tehres a good bunch of wireless gurus that chill out in here
[10:49] <hgaa> hmm
[10:49] <propagandhi> hgaa: what chipset wireless?
[10:49] <hgaa> were can i find u later anyway?
[10:50] <Snake__> In here
[10:50] <propagandhi> hgaa: whats the brand/model whatever info u do have
[10:50] <Snake__> penguinzdr: this songs sweet
[10:50] <Snake__> ;)
[10:51] <hgaa> the wireless card does not have a brand cuz its intregrated
[10:51] <penguinzdr> mushroomhead?
[10:51] <propagandhi> hgaa: of course it has a brand
[10:51] <propagandhi> what model is the laptop
[10:51] <Snake__> penguinzdr: yulp
[10:51] <hgaa> but the laptop brand is Acer Aspire 3000
[10:51] <penguinzdr> sounds good
[10:52] <hgaa> so?
[10:52] <Snake__> I need to figure out how to talk...lol
[10:53] <propagandhi> hgaa: basically u can get the windows driver (.inf) file and use ndiswrapper to get ur wireless working
[10:54] <propagandhi> i'm looking to see what exactly the wireless is in that laptop, and then u can get its driver and install it using ndiswrapper
[10:54] <_faboulouz> hello
[10:54] <hgaa> i have the windows driver
[10:54] <hgaa> i have no problem with windoes
[10:54] <_faboulouz> how i can use superkaramba?
[10:54] <hgaa> the thing is with kubuntu
[10:55] <propagandhi> hgaa: did u miss everything I just said
[10:55] <penguinzdr> oh disturbed
[10:55] <propagandhi> if u have the windows driver, find the .inf file it provides and copy it to kubuntu
[10:56] <propagandhi> then u can use ndiswrapper to install it In Kubuntu
[10:56] <hgaa> whats ndiswrapper?
[10:57] <hgaa> srry my noobsness
[10:57] <propagandhi> its a utility for just such the purpose as u need
[10:57] <propagandhi> u can read more about it on http://www.ndiswrapper.org
[10:57] <propagandhi> !ndiswrapper
[10:57] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:58] <penguinzdr> Snake__: which albums of nightwish you have?
[10:58] <Snake__> I only got a few songs
[10:59] <Snake__> go to http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net to see all my music played on the radio
[10:59] <penguinzdr> ok
[10:59] <Snake__> nightwish is under "various"
[11:00] <hgaa> guys i think i got it
[11:00] <penguinzdr> will you play next "The Kinslayer"?
[11:00] <Snake__> Ummm hang on
[11:00] <Snake__> Lemme see if I can do it :)
[11:00] <Snake__> brb
[11:00] <penguinzdr> ok
[11:00] <hgaa> found something about ndiswrapper
[11:01] <Snake__> okie dokie next song will be kinslayer
[11:01] <penguinzdr> thanls
[11:01] <penguinzdr> thanks*
[11:02] <hgaa> thax
[11:03] <Snake__> Lets hope this works
[11:03] <propagandhi> hgaa: thats a broadcom wireless in that laptop right?
[11:03] <Snake__> WOO!
[11:03] <Snake__> lol
[11:03] <Snake__> I am god
[11:03] <Snake__> :)
[11:03] <penguinzdr> yeah you're
[11:03] <penguinzdr> one of my favourite songs...
[11:03] <Snake__> penguinzdr: is it all cracly or does yours sound good?
[11:03] <penguinzdr> best quality
[11:03] <Snake__> Okay
[11:03] <hgaa> see
[11:04] <hgaa> yes:D
[11:04] <hgaa> why?
[11:04] <hgaa> have good new?
[11:04] <hgaa> news*
[11:04] <propagandhi> okay, I've got USB wireless adapters that are using broadcom chipsets working so urs should work too - or at least logic would assume
[11:05] <hgaa> ar u conected from a USB?
[11:06] <propagandhi> hgaa: if u dont know where the driver is on cd etc, download the driver from the acer site
[11:06] <Snake__> penguinzdr: any other requests?
[11:06] <hgaa> i have the cd by my side:D
[11:06] <penguinzdr> Snake__: no
[11:06] <propagandhi> hgaa: no I've installed usb wireless adapters for friends on ubuntu
[11:06] <penguinzdr> lol guys did you sawed that: http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
[11:08] <hunika> penguinzdr: COOOL
[11:08] <penguinzdr> hunika: that's 31337 too: http://elgoog.rb-hosting.de/index.cgi
[11:10] <penguinzdr> if you speak bulgarian read this page: http://www.kaldata.com/forums/index.php?s=f69a28dbc105b8653a8787f73cb1cec2&showtopic=14047&pid=110819&st=0&#entry110819
[11:11] <penguinzdr> WOW! THAT'S REALLY COOL: http://www.google.com/googlegulp/
[11:11] <Snake__> Wanna see the best?
[11:11] <Snake__> http://gizoogle.com
[11:11] <faboulouz> how i can use superkarmba ?
[11:12] <Snake__> faboulouz: download it
[11:12] <Snake__> faboulouz: open and run it
[11:12] <Snake__> go to kde-look.org to get some widgets for it
[11:12] <faboulouz> how i open it ?
[11:12] <Snake__> faboulouz: Press Alt+F2 and type in Superkaramba
[11:13] <faboulouz> command not foun :\
[11:13] <Snake__> Do you have it installed??
[11:14] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[11:14] <faboulouz> superkaramba is included in kde 3.5 ?
[11:14] <Snake__> faboulouz: no
[11:14] <Snake__> I dont think so
[11:14] <Snake__> penguinzdr: I love this song
[11:14] <Snake__> ;)
[11:14] <penguinzdr> thanks snake!
[11:14] <Snake__> lol
[11:14] <penguinzdr> nightwish rulz!
[11:14] <Snake__> agreed
[11:16] <faboulouz>  apt-get  install superkaramba
[11:16] <faboulouz> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
[11:16] <faboulouz> Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
[11:16] <faboulouz> E: Impossibile trovare superkaramba
[11:16] <faboulouz> Snake__: ?
[11:16] <faboulouz> not found
[11:16] <Snake__> Do you have your univer sources enabled?
[11:16] <buz> !encrypted storage
[11:16] <ubotu> buz: No idea
[11:18] <Snake__> penguinzdr: think 800 songs is enough?
[11:19] <buz> for what
[11:19] <Snake__> buz: are you tlaking ot me?
[11:19] <faboulouz> ok, cia' cia'
[11:19] <buz> yeah i was wondering ;)
[11:19] <Snake__> my radio
[11:19] <buz> depends, for a narrow focus it would be enough
[11:20] <Snake__> lol
[11:20] <penguinzdr> Snake__: for the radio? yes, for the beginning. i don't have radio but i have... 2399 songs
[11:20] <Snake__> Holy crap
[11:20] <Snake__> lol
[11:21] <penguinzdr> amaroKollection.html:
[11:21] <penguinzdr> Track count  	2399
[11:21] <penguinzdr> Album count 	407
[11:21] <penguinzdr> Artist count 	268
[11:21] <penguinzdr> Compilation count 	0
[11:22] <Snake__> nice
[11:22] <Snake__> this song needs to end
[11:22] <Snake__> lol
[11:22] <Snake__> stupid shuffle
[11:23] <Snake__> WOO its over
[11:23] <penguinzdr> yay
[11:23] <Snake__> Yay old school slipknot!!
[11:23] <Snake__> This was off their first album, only 200 of those disks exist
[11:23] <penguinzdr> ah my amarok crashed
[11:23] <Snake__> lol!
[11:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:23] <Snake__> Your missin out on a classic
[11:24] <penguinzdr> connecting...
[11:25] <penguinzdr> finaly
[11:25] <Snake__> lol
[11:25] <penguinzdr> lol dinner
[11:25] <Snake__> Sorry...running off a home line
[11:25] <Snake__> alright
[11:26] <penguinzdr> not avril lavigne!  not avril lavigne!
[11:26] <Snake__> want me to skip?
[11:26] <penguinzdr> no, the radio is yours
[11:26] <Snake__> i hate her too ;)
[11:26] <Snake__> AHH DAMN IT
[11:26] <Snake__> HOTKEYS NOT WORKING
[11:26] <Snake__> lol
[11:26] <penguinzdr> ok, skip her if you want
[11:27] <penguinzdr> oh that's better
[11:27] <Snake__> Here we go.
[11:27] <Snake__> Mudvayne :)
[11:27] <Snake__> uhhh
[11:27] <Snake__> ...
[11:27] <penguinzdr> slow....
[11:27] <Snake__> ...
[11:27] <penguinzdr> lol you stopped it
[11:27] <Snake__> no i didnt
[11:27] <Snake__> the song is like....not playing, but playing
[11:28] <Snake__> ARGH
[11:28] <Snake__> hold on
[11:28] <penguinzdr> oh you're right
[11:28] <Snake__> there
[11:28] <Snake__> Figures
[11:28] <Snake__> now it goes
[11:28] <Snake__> I changed it now
[11:28] <Snake__> lol
[11:29] <penguinzdr> what software do you use for radio?
[11:29] <Snake__> Winamp + Shoutcast
[11:29] <penguinzdr> with wine?
[11:29] <Snake__> with windows
[11:29] <Snake__> :0D
[11:29] <penguinzdr> oh
[11:29] <Snake__> Yea my server has windows
[11:29] <Snake__> Sue me. Because its my gaming PC too
[11:29] <Snake__> lol
[11:30] <crown> penguinzdr: streamtuner for searching radio, and xmms for listen.
[11:30] <Snake__> xmms for listening here
[11:30] <crown> penguinzdr: kradio was also pretty good (simple)
[11:30] <crown> but still not search for chanels for em
[11:31] <penguinzdr> i mean, what do you use for broadcasting?
[11:32] <Snake__> penguinzdr: I herd iceserv or something like that was good on linux
[11:32] <penguinzdr> and for windows, my sister have windows?
[11:33] <Snake__> Shoutcast seems to be the best free
[11:38] <penguinzdr> how can i add a sidebar in the left in konqueror, that shows info for the file i click on?
[11:38] <Snake__> YOU CANT!! er
[11:39] <penguinzdr> :(((((((
[11:39] <Snake__> lol
[11:39] <Snake__> I dunno how
[11:39] <penguinzdr> i mean like in windows exploder
[11:40] <Hobbsee> no, you can...
[11:40] <Hobbsee> i think
[11:40] <Snake__> Hobbsee: this is linux.
[11:40] <Snake__> Where theres a free will theres a free way.
[11:40] <penguinzdr> Hobbsee: then say how!
[11:41] <Snake__> :)
[11:41] <Hobbsee> impatient, impatient...
[11:41] <Hobbsee> try installing metabar
[11:41] <Hobbsee> i had to wade through apt-cache search to find out what the program name was  :P
[11:43] <penguinzdr> bye guys
[11:43] <penguinzdr> i have to go
[11:43] <Snake__> cya
[11:43] <penguinzdr> see you
[11:48] <trozki> hello!?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> hi
[11:48] <Snake__> hi
[11:48] <Snake__> brb
[11:48] <trozki> hi
[11:48] <trozki> aehm, ive a problem ...
[11:49] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[11:49] <ubotu> I guess ask is Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:49] <Snake__> heys guys im gonna go lay do for a bit
[11:49] <Snake__> ttyl laters
[11:51] <trozki> i have kubuntu installed and added a new user to he freshly installed system, i droped the user in the audio group but i cant hear any sound, the xmms is running and seems to play but i cant hear anything
[11:52] <trozki> ideas ? alsa-kubuntu-howto-url?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> trozki: ask crimsun, i think, although he's not here at the moment.  I dont remember the solution, not even how to start troubleshooting it
[12:44] <Draken> wat do i type in console to boot up KDE
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Draken: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:46] <Draken> k
[12:46] <Draken> ta
[01:15] <Draken> err, anyone know how i can get my res higher then 1024x768 ?
[01:16] <apokryphos> !resolution
[01:16] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:22] <Draken> er
[01:22] <Draken> im using kde
[01:22] <Draken> not xwindow
[01:27] <Riddell> kde runs on X Window
[01:28] <apokryphos> Hi Riddell :). Has there been any progress on a live+install cd for dapper?
[01:30] <Riddell> apokryphos: no, kubuntu-express in the new year
[01:31] <apokryphos> Riddell: what would that be?
[01:31] <Riddell> apokryphos: the live CD installer
[01:31] <apokryphos> oh nice
[01:32] <apokryphos> Riddell: will ubuntu have that by default? So shipit for kubuntu?
[01:32] <Riddell> that's the plan
[01:32] <apokryphos> look forward to it :)
[02:28] <FHX> Hi could someone help me? I am trying to install a theme and it asks me to copy the folder here: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but when I right click kde-hxkoh>share>apps>kdm>themes it won't let me move the folder there. Advise?
[02:39] <Riddell> FHX: drag and drop the folder?
[02:39] <FHX> Riddell: I can't access the directory
[02:40] <Riddell> FHX: which directory?
[02:41] <FHX> Riddell:  ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:41] <FHX> I put that in konsole and it doesn't work.
[02:42] <draken> guys
[02:42] <FHX> Riddell: I'm getting my instructions from here: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[02:42] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?
[02:42] <Riddell> FHX: mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:42] <Riddell> mv mytheme ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:43] <FHX> where do I enter that?
[02:43] <FHX> into konsole?
[02:43] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?
[02:44] <FHX> When I do that it says no such file or directory
[02:45] <draken> hello ?
[02:45] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?
[02:49] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive and copy stuff from it ?
[02:49] <draken> hello ?
[02:51] <FHX> Dead.
[02:52] <FHX> nobody alive in here.
[02:53] <lascar> bonjour apokryphos
[02:53] <FHX> lascar: you speak french?
[02:58] <FHX> hxkoh@HXKoh:~$ ls /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:58] <FHX> hxkoh@HXKoh:~$ mv linux passion ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:58] <FHX> mv: cannot stat `linux': No such file or directory
[02:58] <FHX> mv: cannot stat `passion': No such file or directory
[02:58] <FHX> Riddell: That's what it says, could you please advise?
[02:59] <Riddell> FHX: if the file is called "linux passion" is has a space in it which confuses command line stuff, you need to add quotes
[03:00] <Riddell> mv "linux passion" ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[03:01] <FHX> It still says: No such file or directory
[03:04] <Jaymac> sudo mv 'linux passion'
[03:04] <Jaymac> not ""
[03:04] <Jaymac> although it works too
[03:09] <FHX> Jaymac: it still says: no such file or directory
[03:10] <FHX> hxkoh@HXKoh:~$ mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[03:10] <FHX> hxkoh@HXKoh:~$ sudo mv "linux passion" ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[03:10] <FHX> mv: cannot stat `linux passion': No such file or directory
[03:33] <hussam> what's up folks?
[03:34] <rednaxel> bugs bunny, is that you?
[03:34] <hussam> rednaxel: that was 'what's up doc?'
[03:35] <rednaxel> hussam, i know, but it's close enough... :-)
[03:53] <FHX> Hi all
[03:53] <FHX> it says for me to do this: Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, how do I access/edit it? I can't seem to write on it
[03:55] <Lacerta> sudo kate blablabla/kdmrc
[03:59] <FHX> Lacerta: Thankyou! XD
[04:00] <hussam> FHX: you shouldn't need sudo if the file is inside your home dir
[04:00] <hussam> just kate ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[04:00] <FHX> hussam: Hm..it tells me kate crashed and error
[04:01] <|marty|> hi all
[04:01] <FHX> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed
[04:01] <Lacerta> FHX: kill kate and try again
[04:01] <FHX> kate is killed.
[04:01] <FHX> ..i don't have it open
[04:02] <hussam> FHX: try: rm -r ~/.kde/shareapps/kate
[04:02] <hussam> then run kate again
[04:02] <FHX> ok
[04:03] <hussam> sorry  rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate
[04:03] <FHX> Nope, still can't get it to work
[04:03] <FHX> oh.
[04:03] <hussam> I forgot the /
[04:03] <hussam> share/apps
[04:03] <rev> can someone tell me how to setup sata disks? I do not get any block device
[04:03] <FHX> still doesn't work..
[04:04] <Lacerta> FHX:  try "killall kate"
[04:04] <Lacerta> that worked for me once
[04:04] <FHX> hxkoh@HXKoh:~$ killall kate
[04:04] <FHX> kate(8793): Operation not permitted
[04:04] <FHX> kate: no process killed
[04:04] <hussam> FHX: and don't use sudo for graphical apps, use kdesu instead
[04:04] <hussam> FHX: sudo killall kate
[04:05] <FHX> Oh..okay.
[04:05] <Lacerta> what's wrong using sudo with graphical apps?
[04:05] <FHX> hussam: That worked =)
[04:06] <hussam> Lacerta: it makes files in ~/.kde/share/config owned by root instead of you
[04:06] <Lacerta> yeah?
[04:06] <FHX> hussam: is there a website where I can learn all these commands? i'm not very good at them. =/
[04:07] <FHX> i think i may have one bookmarked but i'm not sure.
[04:08] <hussam> not sure. I usually learn stuff as I go by
[04:08] <FHX> hussam: it won't let me write it
[04:08] <|marty|> does anyone know about RootSudo
[04:08] <chx> is there any way to get back the font I was using in KDE 3.4 Konsole?
[04:08] <FHX> i'm supposed to edit/add a line & save but it tells me i can't
[04:08] <chx> I do not know what it was and whatever I try it just does fit
[04:08] <chx> does not fit, I mean
[04:08] <|marty|> i can sudo fine from console but not from apps
[04:09] <|marty|> i.e. admin mode
[04:09] <hussam> FHX: you can't save the kdmrc file?
[04:09] <FHX> hussam: Nope.
[04:10] <FHX> "document could not be saved as it was not possible to write on. Please check that you have write access to this file or enough disk space is available."
[04:10] <hussam> FHX, try: sudo  chown FHX.FHX ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[04:11] <hussam> replace FHX with your username
[04:11] <FHX> ok
[04:11] <hussam> then try saving
[04:11] <FHX> chown: cannot access `/home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory
[04:11] <FHX> what is chown supposed to do?
[04:12] <hussam> FHX: change owner
[04:12] <hussam> FHX: maybe the file does not exist.
[04:12] <FHX> x.X
[04:12] <hussam> FHX, try: touch /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[04:13] <FHX> touch: cannot touch `/home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory
[04:13] <|marty|> i cannot use admin  mode and set up my kubuntu box :'(
[04:13] <hussam> FHX: mkdir /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/
[04:14] <hussam> FHX, then: touch /home/hxkoh/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[04:14] <FHX> nothing happens
[04:14] <FHX> oh
[04:14] <FHX> yeah
[04:14] <FHX> nothing happens
[04:14] <FHX> what was it supposed to show?
[04:15] <hussam> it shouldn't show anything
[04:15] <xwolf-> firefox15
[04:15] <FHX> oh.
[04:15] <xwolf-> where's the wiki bot? hoho
[04:15] <xwolf-> how can i install firefox 1.5?
[04:16] <FHX> hussam: rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate, what was that supposed to do?
[04:16] <FHX> (i'm trying to learn as it goes XD)
[04:16] <hussam> yes
[04:16] <xwolf-> firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[04:17] <FHX> xwolf-: isn't it preinstalled??
[04:17] <xwolf-> ubotu:  cmon baby
[04:17] <ubotu> xwolf-: Wish i knew
[04:17] <xwolf-> FHX: no, it's not
[04:17] <FHX> ubotu: under kmenu>internet>firefox?
[04:17] <ubotu> FHX: I don't know
[04:17] <FHX> Ergh i mean xwolf
[04:17] <hussam> FHX: ubotu is a bot
[04:17] <FHX> hussam: yeah i know i mean to type xwolf
[04:17] <FHX> XD
[04:17] <FHX> then ubotu was in my head so that's what came out
[04:17] <xwolf-> it just says i use 'tar -xzfv firefox-1.5.tar.gz', but i don't know what to do later
[04:18] <hussam> FHX: does kate run ow
[04:19] <hussam> xwolf: did you tar -xzvf firefox-1.5.tar.gz ?
[04:19] <visik7> is "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings" enough to get kubuntu on ubuntu ?
[04:19] <hussam> visik7: yes
[04:19] <visik7> thanks
[04:19] <xwolf-> hussam: not in this installation, but yes on the one before this
[04:19] <visik7> hussam: any other advice ?
[04:20] <FHX> hussam: Yes O.O
[04:20] <anir> hello
[04:20] <hussam> xwolf-: where did you extract it to?
[04:20] <anir> my firefox browser is not working
[04:20] <anir> with the new kernel
[04:20] <|marty|> hi
[04:20] <|marty|> please this is my obstacle
[04:20] <|marty|> only
[04:21] <hussam> FHX: also don't sudo when you want to edit files inside ~/.kde
[04:21] <xwolf-> hussam: /home/igor/firefox
[04:21] <FHX> ahh..what happens if i use sudo? it won't let me edit?
[04:22] <FHX> rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/kate, did that delete all of kate's processes?
[04:22] <hussam> FHX: it deletes some of your settings for kate. ( nothing systemwide or dangerous )
[04:23] <hussam> FHX: ~ = /home/hxkoh
[04:23] <anir> hussam, can you please tell me .. why my firefox browser stops working after i download the kernel version x.x.10
[04:24] <hussam> xwolf-: what exactly do you want to do?
[04:24] <FHX> ahh i see. *remembers taht stuff*
[04:24] <xwolf-> hussam: know WHAT to do after 'tar -xzfv firefox-1.5.tar.gz'
[04:24] <xwolf-> it creates a folder
[04:25] <hussam> anir: it shouldn't. can you run firefox in konsole and post the error in pastebin.com
[04:25] <FHX> Alright i'm going to test out my edit. =)
[04:25] <hussam> xwolf-: inside that folder is a shell script called firefox, run that
[04:25] <xwolf-> hussam:  how?
[04:25] <xwolf-> open konsole there and...?
[04:26] <Mias> hi
[04:26] <anir> hussam, please join anir.. i have pasted there for your reference
[04:27] <hussam> xwolf-: browse to the folder in konqueror, do you see the firefox script, double click it
[04:27] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: ./firefox
[04:27] <thoreauputic> or that :)
[04:27] <xwolf-> root@igor:/home/igor# ./firefox
[04:27] <xwolf-> bash: ./firefox: is a directory
[04:28] <xwolf-> oh no, i have to enter the firefox folder ;>
[04:29] <xwolf-> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:29] <FHX> hussam: It didn't work. =( i was trying to install a theme.
[04:29] <xwolf-> hussam:  i got this error
[04:29] <xwolf-> where can i get this library?
[04:30] <hussam> xwolf-: what's the error?
[04:30] <visik7> is there a decent irc client for kde ?
[04:30] <xwolf-> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:30] <hussam> visik7: konversation
[04:30] <visik7> hussam: oh ok
[04:31] <FHX> visik7: I'm using konversation now. it's great. =P
[04:31] <xwolf-> this lbstdc++.so.5, i guess i'm gonna have to download it, right?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !info libstdc++5
[04:32] <ubotu> libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB
[04:32] <thoreauputic> it's in main so it should install fine
[04:32] <xwolf-> ok, it's done
[04:32] <visik7> has benn ksirc suppressed ?
[04:33] <hussam> anir: try apt-get install libxt6
[04:33] <anir> hussam, i have tried but i am getting another error
[04:33] <anir> i will paste in anir
[04:33] <xwolf-> now i finalize the session?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: ?
[04:33] <xwolf-> i have installed the library already
[04:33] <xwolf-> now what?
[04:34] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: well try the ./firefox again
[04:34] <xwolf-> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:34] <xwolf-> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:34] <xwolf-> (firefox-bin:27327): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:34] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: erm - you aren't running as root are ypu?
[04:35] <xwolf-> well, i used su after opening konsole in that firefox folder
[04:35] <xwolf-> shouldnt i?
[04:35] <hussam> xwolf-: ya shouldn't
[04:36] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: definitely not
[04:36] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: exit  to go back to user
[04:36] <thoreauputic> or ctrl + D
[04:36] <xwolf-> ok, here's what i get, gonna translate it back to english:
[04:37] <xwolf-> Firefox cannot install this item due to a register fail in chrome. Please, contact the author about this problem
[04:37] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: you probably have a conflict with a previous install of firefox (or an existing one)
[04:37] <hussam> xwolf-: remove the firefox folder you just extracted and start over
[04:37] <xwolf-> but it was just opened
[04:38] <xwolf-> do i need to uninstall anything?
[04:38] <hussam> it worked inspite of the error?
[04:38] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: it's all in the firefox folder
[04:39] <JakubS_> where do you file bugs against kubuntu packages?
[04:39] <xwolf-> hussam:  it opened the browser (firefox), but i closed it and now i cant find it... i will delete the firefox folder and redo my steps, ok?
[04:39] <hussam> JakubS_: bugzilla.ubutnu.com
[04:39] <JakubS_> thanks
[04:40] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: you don't need or want to do it as root
[04:41] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: if you have it in your home folder you can install as a user
[04:41] <xwolf-> i think i have a problem here... i used su before 'tar ... firefox...', so when i try to delete it in konqueror, it says access denied. and if i do rmdir, the folder has to be empty
[04:42] <xwolf-> right?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: sudo rm -rf firefox/
[04:42] <xwolf-> ok
[04:42] <thoreauputic> in n the directory it's in - presumably home
[04:42] <thoreauputic> erm - /home/you
[04:43] <xwolf-> ok, folder deleted
[04:43] <xwolf-> let's start over
[04:43] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: this time just do it without root
[04:43] <xwolf-> ok
[04:45] <xwolf-> this time was different
[04:45] <xwolf-> i did './firefox' and it just opened... no install questions or anythinh
[04:46] <thoreauputic> right
[04:46] <xwolf-> so, is it done?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: before it thought you were doing a global installation since you were root, i suppose
[04:46] <thoreauputic> yup
[04:47] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: all you need now is a launcher for it, or a menu entry
[04:47] <xwolf-> yes, i was gonna ask that
[04:47] <thoreauputic> give the full path like  /home/you/firefox/firefox
[04:47] <xwolf-> how do i create a desktop shortcut and menu entry in Internet? (i'm a former windows users, gimme a break)
[04:47] <|marty|> for some reason I am unable to run settings in admin mode
[04:48] <|marty|> other people seem to be suffering the same problem
[04:48] <|marty|> but I cannot seem to fix it
[04:48] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: too make an icon, right click the desktop and choose the option
[04:48] <|marty|> is this a bug in kubuntu
[04:48] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: there is also a kde menu editor
[04:49] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: it should be in your manu -  but I think a right click on the menu does it from memory (I'm not in KDE atm)
[04:51] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: there's probably a firefox icon in the firefox folder too - probably in a subfolder
[04:51] <xwolf-> found it
[04:52] <thoreauputic> OK - make sure you put the full path to firefox - it isn't in the default $PATH
[04:52] <tanko> is it possible to start the kubuntu live cd on an ibook g4 10.3.9?
[04:52] <xwolf-> the command is set as: '/home/igor/firefox/firefox'
[04:53] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: sounds right
[04:53] <metellius> i'm working on upgrading hoary->breezy, and somehow I've managed to uninstall kubuntu-desktop. apt-get installing it gives me a list of about ten package dependencies that supposedly 'is not going to be installed'. it seems the individual packages have dependencies on a package that does not have an installation candidate. can anyone help me?
[04:53] <xwolf-> omg
[04:53] <xwolf-> it's beautiful here
[04:54] <xwolf-> you should see it ;)
[04:55] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: working now ?
[04:55] <xwolf-> yes, menu AND desktop shortcut
[04:55] <Newbieatlinux> Is kubuntu good for newbies on linux?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> metellius: first I would try   sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <xwolf-> Newbieatlinux: i would say yes.
[04:56] <anir> Newbieatlinux, yes very much
[04:56] <xwolf-> ur talking to a noob here
[04:56] <thoreauputic> metellius: no arguments - just that command
[04:57] <Newbieatlinux> good. Can i configure so i can share internet on my server (kubuntu server)
[04:57] <Newbieatlinux> =
[04:57] <Newbieatlinux> ?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> metellius: when you dist-upgrade sometimes you have to  sudo apt-get -f install several times if you have problems
[04:58] <hussam> hxkoh: hey
[04:58] <FHX> hussam: Heya.
[04:58] <xwolf-> thoreauputic: why shouldnt i install as root?
[04:58] <FHX> I still can't get the blasted theme to work. in my attempt to improve my lousy understanding of linux i'm reading an online tutorial. XD
[04:58] <metellius> thoreauputic: i have done that a few times already. it ends in 0, 0, 0, and 1 not upgraded
[04:59] <justanother> hey guys
[04:59] <justanother> i have a problem setting up w-lan with kubuntu
[04:59] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: in this case, you are just installing in your home dir - you don't need root to do that
[04:59] <justanother> although it sees the w-lan it doesn't connect...
[04:59] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: and as you saw, it mucks up the permssions
[05:00] <hussam> FHX: kdm theme?
[05:00] <xwolf-> oh, i see
[05:00] <xwolf-> next step is installing xchat... let me look for something
[05:00] <Newbieatlinux> Can i share my internet on kubuntu?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: xchat is just  sudo apt-get install xchat   :)
[05:00] <hussam> FHX: kdm theme?
[05:00] <FHX> hussam: Yep, kdm theme
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Newbieatlinux: of course
[05:01] <xwolf-> oh, ok
[05:01] <justanother> i set the ip addresses, standard-gateway, dns-server but i can't connect to the w-lan and internet
[05:01] <Newbieatlinux> thoreauputic goood:D
[05:01] <justanother> so booted windows ;(
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Newbieatlinux: you can install guidedog and guarddog to make a NAT and firewall - or firestarter which does both
[05:01] <FHX> hussam: Just curious, how do i log into my root account?
[05:01] <xwolf-> how do i go to the parent folder from the one i'm at? (equivalent to cd.. in windows)
[05:02] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: same
[05:02] <Newbieatlinux> thoreauputic okey, were do i find it? Is it easy to find in kubuntu
[05:02] <stefano> FHX: you are not allowed to log on with root
[05:02] <thoreauputic> xwolf-:  you need a space :)
[05:02] <Newbieatlinux> im installing now :D
[05:02] <hussam> FHX: I have a kubuntu deb for kdm theme manager if you want
[05:02] <stefano> uboto: tell FHX about root
[05:02] <xwolf-> ok
[05:02] <thoreauputic> Newbieatlinux: do you know about adept and packages and how installs are done in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[05:03] <hussam> FHX: that'll let you easily change kdm themes
[05:03] <thoreauputic> !tell Newbieatlinux about repos
[05:03] <xwolf-> off to lunch now
[05:03] <thoreauputic> !tell Newbieatlinux about docs
[05:03] <hussam> FHX: do you want it?
[05:04] <FHX> hussam: Um..do I? is it dangerous?
[05:04] <anir> hussam, bye bye
[05:04] <thoreauputic> Newbieatlinux: you should also read  http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <hussam> FHX: nope
[05:05] <FHX> hussam: Hm..I guess i'll steer away from it. for now i need to figure out how to install a theme. *feels loser-ish* XD
[05:05] <|marty|> is there a reason no-one wants to speak to me - no offence - just so i know i am not breaking any protocol or should I not expect to get spoken to so soon
[05:05] <hussam> FHX: look here www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120
[05:06] <stefano> marty: did you say anything before?
[05:06] <hussam> FHX: that's the one I was telling you about
[05:06] <|marty|> yes
[05:06] <stefano> i dont see it
[05:06] <thoreauputic> |marty|: sorry :) I was busy -  have you tried running kcontrol with kdesu ?
[05:06] <FHX> O_O
[05:06] <stefano> ah i c
[05:06] <FHX> *faints*
[05:07] <FHX> It'll make life easier
[05:07] <|marty|> yes the problem seems to be gui apps running in admin mode
[05:07] <thoreauputic> |marty|: try  kdesu kcontrol
[05:07] <hussam> FHX: it lets you install kdm themes
[05:07] <|marty|> ok
[05:07] <FHX> You don't have permission to access /files/kdmtheme/kdmtheme-0.9.2_0.9.2-1_i386.deb on this server.
[05:07] <FHX> Apache Server at beta.smileaf.org Port 80
[05:07] <stefano> i'd recomment kdesu systemsettings
[05:07] <FHX> it won't let me download it.
[05:07] <FHX> T_T
[05:07] <thoreauputic> |marty|: in general you should not run GUI apps with root privileges
[05:07] <stefano> why?
[05:07] <|marty|> sure
[05:08] <stefano> i do this quite often
[05:08] <|marty|> i understand this but the problem was this... when I first installed kubuntu my resolution was only 800x600
[05:08] <hussam> FHX: brb, I have to reboot
[05:08] <thoreauputic> stefano: because it is insecure and you also run the risk of locking ~/.ICEauthority :)
[05:08] <stefano> what?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> stefano: you SHOULD NOT run GUI apps as root
[05:08] <stefano> why is it insecure?
[05:09] <FHX> ok
[05:09] <|marty|> so I wanted to get a decent resolution
[05:09] <thoreauputic> stefano: 30 years of unix says running as root is bad
[05:09] <|marty|> I found sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:09] <thoreauputic> stefano: it leaves you as open to exploits as if you were running windows
[05:09] <stefano> man, thoreauputic: if you cant give me a good reasom, or a worst-case scenario, i will go on using kate as root for config.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> almost
[05:10] <thoreauputic> stefano: it's OK to run an editor that way :)
[05:10] <stefano> yes, i mean i dont log on as root
[05:10] <thoreauputic> stefano: you can use kdesu kate for instance
[05:10] <stefano> i know that
[05:10] <stefano> yes
[05:10] <stefano> thats what i do
[05:10] <thoreauputic> stefano: OK :)
[05:10] <stefano> lol we misunderstood each other
[05:10] <thoreauputic> stefano: yes :)
[05:11] <stefano> awe time for lunch
[05:11] <stefano> see you guyss
[05:11] <stefano> have a nice day :)
[05:11] <|marty|> bye
[05:11] <|marty|> i have looked through the logs
[05:11] <FHX> do i type: make install ? (after make)
[05:12] <|marty|> Dec 30 14:08:10 localhost sudo:    neilc : TTY=pts/5 ; PWD=/home/neilc ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/kdesu_stub -
[05:12] <|marty|> Dec 30 14:08:19 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/4 ruser= rhost=  user=neilc
[05:12] <FHX> or is there something before the words "make install"
[05:12] <|marty|> I get anm authentication failure
[05:12] <thoreauputic> !tell |marty| about fixresolution
[05:13] <FHX> do i do: sudo make install, sud-c make install, or make install?
[05:13] <FHX> XD
[05:13] <|marty|> well I fixed the resolution and then after that it was all ok
[05:13] <FHX> hussam: Hm..what command comes after "make"?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[05:13] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:13] <|marty|> then I tried using admin mode in a gui
[05:14] <hussam> sudo make install
[05:14] <FHX> Ty ^^
[05:14] <thoreauputic> |marty|: have a look at ubotu's URL above
[05:14] <|marty|> I fixed the resolution
[05:14] <eledu> hi...
[05:14] <hussam> are you trying to compile it?
[05:14] <eledu> hi just one quick noob question
[05:15] <FHX> Yup, trying to compile
[05:15] <FHX> i just finished sudo make install.
[05:15] <FHX> Hm..not sure how to access it. alt+f2 +?
[05:15] <eledu> how to show my ubuntu version?
[05:15] <hussam> FHX: kdesu kcontrol
[05:16] <thoreauputic> eledu:  lsb_release -a
[05:16] <hussam> under system administration
[05:16] <eledu> thxs
[05:17] <kruemmel> hey
[05:17] <kruemmel> ive got a question
[05:18] <kruemmel> i get into the internet with "pon dsl-provider"
[05:18] <FHX> hussam: I found it, but when I click install new theme it won't show me my .tar.gz, it only allows me to access a folder called /root which has nothing in it to install. o.o
[05:18] <kruemmel> but after every restart, i have to run "pppoeconf", after that, the "pon dsl-provider" does work
[05:20] <kruemmel> please, help me
[05:20] <hussam> FHX: doesn;t it let you navigate out of root?
[05:21] <FHX> hussam: Nope, won't let me.
[05:21] <kruemmel> ??
[05:22] <nicholas1520> i have a  question: i installed apache, php and such with the synaptic package manager and the directory for the apache interface is: /var/www/ now and that part belongs to root and obviously i can't write any data to there and i have no idea what password the root account uses or even how to login to it.
[05:22] <hussam> FHX: give me a second. I'm making a new package for kdmtheme. Once I install it, I'll try it and tell you
[05:22] <FHX> Okie
[05:23] <thoreauputic> !tell nicholas1520 about root
[05:23] <FHX> x.x sorry for all the trouble.
[05:23] <nicholas1520> yay
[05:25] <xwolf-> what's the opt dir for?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: you can install things there - but I prefer to install extra/ non-ubuntu stuff in /usr/local
[05:26] <hussam> FHX: works for me :(
[05:26] <thoreauputic> I bever use /opt myself
[05:26] <thoreauputic> s/bever/never
[05:27] <xwolf-> perl :D
[05:27] <thoreauputic> xwolf-: perl is in the repos and it also should be installed by default
[05:27] <thoreauputic> AFAIK
[05:28] <xwolf-> no, i wont install perl, just recognized the s/wrong/right
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ah I see :)
[05:28] <xwolf-> but i might as well install php, apache and mysql
[05:28] <FHX> hussam: Hm..i closed it and restarted it and it works again, but which file is it exactly that it is look for ? o.o
[05:29] <hussam> FHX: not sure, maybe a .theme or .tar.gz file
[05:30] <xwolf-> let me change to xchat, hang on
[05:30] <FHX> hussam: Oh..I just noticed. it's a different sort of theme i was talking about. =( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28724
[05:31] <hussam> FHX: that should work
[05:32] <FHX> on themes manager?
[05:32] <xwolf-> there i go, in xchat ;)
[05:32] <hussam> yep
[05:33] <FHX> but isn't themes manager for themes? the one i was looking at is for the login screen
[05:33] <hussam> kdm themes are login screen themes
[05:33] <FHX> oh.
[05:33] <hussam> you are mistaking kde themes with kdm themes
[05:34] <FHX> hm...so can theme manager take kdm themes?
[05:34] <FHX> or kde only?
[05:35] <udomsak> hi all
[05:35] <hussam> kdm theme manager you just compiled takes kdm (login) themes
[05:36] <FHX> omg. *feels stupid* I SEE THE LIGHT
[05:36] <FHX> XD
[05:36] <udomsak> Why I press 'Apply buttion' to change keyboard switch group it no effect  ?
[05:36] <udomsak> I Gnome it suddenly
[05:36] <udomsak> In Gnome it suddenly
[05:36] <hussam> FHX: ok good luck, I gotta leave now
[05:58] <y_o_u> hello all. total linux/kde/kubuntu n00b here. trying to install baghira on kubuntu 5.10 and where you download the file it says "Baghira is allready part of the Official Debian Archive, so you can just apt-get install it from Sid." what does that mean, in n00b speak?
[06:00] <newbieonlinux> Why cant I login as user manager (root) in kubuntu?
[06:06] <nicholas1520> you know thats my same question
[06:06] <xwolf-> kubuntu doesnt trust us :D
[06:06] <nicholas1520> tru
[06:06] <newbieonlinux> but how ?
[06:06] <newbieonlinux> anyone must know
[06:07] <nicholas1520> simple. it doesn't like us.
[06:07] <xwolf-> run kuser and check out those settings
[06:07] <nicholas1520> it is evil..
[06:07] <nicholas1520> evil.
[06:07] <xwolf-> perhaps there's something there
[06:07] <newbieonlinux> xwolf- kuser?
[06:07] <newbieonlinux> what is that.p
[06:07] <xwolf-> yes
[06:07] <nicholas1520> how to "start" or something kuser? im a professional n00b :P
[06:08] <xwolf-> hoho, you are just a step to go from me (it's been 3 hours using kub already haha)
[06:08] <xwolf-> go to K MENU > Run Command
[06:08] <xwolf-> then type kuser
[06:08] <Set> kubuntu owns
[06:09] <xwolf-> afk
[06:12] <jahshua--> can anyone please explain to me what these two commands will do
[06:12] <jahshua--> sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[06:12] <jahshua--> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[06:13] <Anth0ny_> Can anyone help me how to make Konquer show file-indexes in text-view (Persistent)
[06:13] <newbieonlinux> I got Cannot conversate with su kde
[06:13] <Set> the first one will delete that file
[06:14] <Set> the second will copy
[06:14] <newbieonlinux> why+
[06:14] <Anth0ny_> everytime I logoff, the the file index is shown with huge icons
[06:14] <newbieonlinux> Set do u know. I want to run in root (but in the dekstop)
[06:14] <Set> we're in kubuntu
[06:14] <Set> dunno. ask someone else. I use debian and Xandros
[06:15] <nicholas1520> now
[06:15] <nicholas1520> if i want to umm run something as root
[06:15] <nicholas1520> liek just chmod a damn folder lol
[06:15] <Set> sudo
[06:15] <nicholas1520> it hates me.
[06:15] <Set> or runas
[06:15] <nicholas1520> gives me operation denied all the time
[06:16] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me ?
[06:16] <Set> are your user in the sudo list?
[06:16] <nicholas1520> runas?
[06:16] <Set> jahshua--, I did
[06:16] <nicholas1520> yup
[06:16] <Set> run as
[06:16] <Set> su
[06:17] <jahshua--> Set: what changes does that make to the Kubuntu default ?
[06:18] <Set> I don't know. I'm a newb myself. ask them who told you to write that
[06:18] <Set> it has something to do with konqueror. are you troubleshooting it?
[06:19] <Set> probably a settings file
[06:19] <jahshua--> nah its on kubuntu.org
[06:19] <jahshua--> hehe
[06:19] <Set> a wild guess is that you remove the default profile for konqueror and adds in a new profile for default
[06:19] <jahshua--> thanks tho
[06:19] <jahshua--> :)
[06:20] <Set> link me plz. I wanna learn aswell
[06:20] <_thumper_> Hi all, quick question, how many people here are learning C++ or would like to learn more C++?
[06:20] <jahshua--> k
[06:21] <jahshua--> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[06:21] <jahshua--> its under
[06:21] <jahshua--> How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?
[06:21] <Set> I was right
[06:21] <Set> wohoo for me
[06:21] <newbieonlinux> Set how i be user in sudo list?
[06:21] <Set> you remove the Kubuntu profile and add in the KDE default
[06:22] <newbieonlinux> Set how i do that?
[06:22] <Set> newbieonlinux, the user you made when you installed should be a sudoer
[06:22] <Set> newbieonlinux, that was for jahshua--
[06:22] <newbieonlinux> Set i have done it but its says Converse with Su failed
[06:22] <newbieonlinux> Set i must be root in my dekstop
[06:23] <Set> newbieonlinux, http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowmoresudoers
[06:23] <jahshua--> what im wondering is, what does the KDE default look like i guess
[06:24] <Set> http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome that's for ubuntu, not kubuntu.
[06:27] <Set> newbieonlinux, sorry that I can't help you. I use sudo
[06:27] <AoP> I use sudo to
[06:27] <xwolf-> how do i set url double-clicks in xchat to be opened with firefox?
[06:29] <Set> xwolf-, try settings and helper applications. or something. I use konversation
[06:29] <newbieonlinux> Set what they mean with system_username ?
[06:29] <newbieonlinux> what should i take instead
[06:30] <newtolinux> I donno
[06:32] <Set> newbieonlinux, you're better off with asking in open, than directly to me. I've only tried kubuntu for like 1 day, and I spent that day getting wifi working
[06:33] <mad_man> what is your problem newbieonlinux ?
[06:43] <Anth0ny_> how do I show the actual up/download-speed on my NIC?
[06:44] <kkathman> Anth0ny_: I'd suggest loggin to www.dslreports.com and choosing the "tools" on the left and follow the instructions for the speed test
[06:45] <Anth0ny_> isn't there any way to do it with ifconfig?
[06:47] <mcscruff> is there any swf to 3gp converstion software for linux?
[06:48] <kkathman> Anth0ny_: your hardware is a set speed actually - but what its hooked up to is totally different
[06:48] <thoreauputic> Anth0ny_: or install bmon ( bandwidth monitor)
[06:48] <Anth0ny_> okay
[06:48] <kkathman> Anth0ny_: the speed on the card is at the speed of light, but your internal connection to your network, your ISP, etc is the real test
[06:49] <kkathman> ifconfig only gives you connection info basically
[06:49] <Anth0ny_> bmon was exactly what I was looking for
[06:50] <Anth0ny_> someone I uploading to me right now, and now I am able to se his current upload-speed
[06:50] <Anth0ny_> thanks
[06:52] <Anth0ny_> isn't there somekind of a tool that can be used inside Gnome/KDE?
[06:52] <Anth0ny_> netmon?
[06:55] <epp> how can i speed up my linux?
[06:56] <Chousuke> epp: In many ways. Why?
[06:56] <Chousuke> Is it abnormally slow?
[06:57] <epp> im running a 800mhz, 512mb ram, 8mb videocard.
[06:57] <Chousuke> That should be enough to run it quite well.
[06:59] <Chousuke> There's no magical switch to speed it up significantly, unless there's a configuration error somewhere.
[07:01] <hussam> epp: that's actually a good system. I'm getting by with only 384MB ram.
[07:01] <epp> yeah... but apps are slow slow to boot up...
[07:01] <thoreauputic> turning off eye candy is a good place to start
[07:01] <thoreauputic> epp: which apps ?
[07:01] <Chousuke> epp: The HD is a limiting factor
[07:01] <epp> plus my video card sucks soo bad that, videos are all choppy.
[07:02] <Chousuke> epp: make sure DMA is enabled
[07:02] <thoreauputic> epp: that's probably a DMA issue
[07:02] <epp> yeah, last time i ran linux i did something to speed it up.
[07:02] <thoreauputic> !dma
[07:02] <Chousuke> it makes a _huge_ difference.
[07:02] <hussam> eye candy makes a difference especially with a 8MB ram vga
[07:02] <epp> is that in bios?
[07:02] <Chousuke> nah
[07:02] <thoreauputic> !tell epp`about dma
[07:03] <bhna> epp: edit your /etc/hdparm
[07:03] <thoreauputic> ag typo
[07:03] <Anth0ny_> !tell Anth0ny_ about dma
[07:03] <thoreauputic> !tell epp about dma
[07:03] <bhna> !dma
[07:03] <epp> haha
[07:03] <thoreauputic> that factoid is too long :(
[07:04] <thoreauputic> bhna: the factoid is too long so it gets diverted to /msg
[07:08] <epp> how do i turn off eyecandy? themes?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> epp: I would run kcontrol and turn off tool tip bubble etc there
[07:09] <thoreauputic> hmm - maybe you can do that from the kicker with a right click, - I'm not in KDE atm
[07:10] <thoreauputic> it's all in the control centre anyway...
[07:14] <epp> what theme should i pick?
[07:19] <kkathman> thoreauputic:  greetings :)
[07:19] <kkathman> hey hussam :)
[07:19] <thoreauputic> kkathman: hi :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> epp: just experiment and see
[07:20] <thoreauputic> epp: you can always change it back
[07:20] <kkathman> k_menu -- system settings
[07:20] <kkathman> new KDE users should live there for the first 72 hours
[07:21] <epp> how can i add music to amarok from another computer? like mounting it to a folder?
[07:21] <epp> or is there a place that shows all network computers?
[07:21] <kkathman> Konqueror
[07:22] <kkathman> but if your music is, say on a windows box, you'll need to setup samba probably
[07:22] <jahshua--> ok so i did sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[07:22] <jahshua--> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[07:22] <jahshua--> but nothing has changed
[07:22] <epp> yeah it works....
[07:23] <epp> kkathman, smb://mainpc shows me what i want... but how do i get it to amarok?
[07:23] <kkathman> jahshua--: what are you trying to do?
[07:24] <jahshua--> on the kubuntu FAQ it says Kubuntu Breezy comes with a simplified Konqueror profile to make things more use friendly compared to default KDE.
[07:24] <jahshua--> To get back to the default KDE profiles:
[07:24] <kkathman> epp: I dont use amarok, but I assume you should be able to open the samba folders using smb://
[07:24] <jahshua--> then those two commands
[07:24] <epp> k
[07:24] <thoreauputic> jahshua--: you copied it with sudo so it now has root permissions - you'll need to chown -R to your user I think
[07:24] <epp> can i mount them?
[07:25] <jahshua--> thoreaupeutic how do i do that
[07:25] <kkathman> jahshua--: you could always just rename your .kde folder and restart  - that would keep your current settings and start anew...or in system settings there is a setting on most things to "reset"
[07:25] <thoreauputic> hmm chown user:user filename would do in that case I think
[07:25] <thoreauputic> with sudo
[07:25] <jahshua--> what do  put for user file name
[07:25] <epp> k... sorry i was adding media the wrong way... there is a folder called network, lol may bad.
[07:26] <jahshua--> thats all the instructions give on the site
[07:26] <jahshua--> why dont they explain the rest
[07:26] <thoreauputic> jahshua--: your user name :)
[07:26] <reon> Hi
[07:26] <kkathman> thoreauputic: good answer dude
[07:26] <kkathman> hi reon
[07:26] <thoreauputic> jahshua--: and the file concerned
[07:26] <reon> What file holds the NTP time server information ?
[07:26] <jahshua--> file?
[07:26] <jahshua--> this is for the kde settings
[07:26] <jahshua--> not a file
[07:26] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[07:27] <jahshua--> man im confused :/
[07:27] <kkathman> reon not sure, but the ntp main page should tell you
[07:28] <thoreauputic> jahshua--: ah sorry I thought you were copying to your home dir - ignore me
[07:28] <kkathman> reon check out man ntp  also
[07:28] <visik7> hi
[07:28] <jahshua--> ok so what should i do now ?
[07:28] <jahshua--> :/
[07:28] <reon> what ntp main page ? According to the debian docs it is stored in /etc/ntp.conf but i cannot find that in kubuntu
[07:29] <reon> no man entry for ntp...
[07:29] <kkathman> reon if there isnt a conf file then either a) create one  or b) run the configuration process (whatever it is)
[07:29] <thoreauputic> reon: ntpdate
[07:29] <kkathman> thanx thoreauputic :)
[07:30] <jahshua--> anyone?
[07:30] <visik7> I've apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but konqueror icons are missing
[07:30] <visik7> what's wrong ???
[07:30] <kkathman> jahshua--: Im lost as to what you are trying to do
[07:31] <jahshua--> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[07:32] <jahshua--> its there under How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?
[07:33] <Determinist> is there any way to remove all the default colour schemes and windecos that come with KDE?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Determinist: yes, run fluxbox instead ;)
[07:36] <Determinist> lol
[07:36] <Determinist> no, seriously, under gnome you can remove gnome-themes and the other crap that comes by default with it, is there nothing similar in kde?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> bye everyone :)
[07:37] <jahshua--> kkathman can you help me ?
[07:37] <jahshua--> ok bye
[07:37] <jahshua--> thereauputic
[07:37] <kkathman> Determinist: k-menu, systemsettings
[07:37] <kkathman> you can remove about anything you wish
[07:38] <jahshua--> :|
[07:38] <reon> Anybody know of a good font guide for Kubuntu. The Gnome guides dont work to hot for KDE ?
[07:39] <Determinist> kkathman: nope, wont let me remove the default ones
[07:39] <kkathman> Determinist: why exactly are you trying to remove them?
[07:39] <Determinist> kkathman: because i see no reason for them to exist.
[07:40] <kkathman> then you shouldnt be running KDE, as thoropeutic indicated
[07:40] <Determinist> that makes no sense :P
[07:40] <kkathman> go back to gnome...KDE has themes and such for the added capability for choice and so-called "eye candy" if you will
[07:41] <_arafat> how can i disable dhcp on bootup? I do not want to press "strg + c" every time when it waits for an dhcp offer...
[07:41] <epp> ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?
[07:42] <kkathman> _arafat: change your connection from DHCP to static perhaps?
[07:42] <jahshua--> kkathman can you help me ?
[07:42] <jahshua--> please
[07:43] <kkathman> I'll try...but I got lost with exactly what you are trying to do
[07:43] <arafat> kkathman: well, when i plug a cable into my notebook i want to have a dhcp offer...but not before!
[07:43] <arafat> like in windows...:-)
[07:43] <Determinist> kkathman: is there any way to know if a file on the system belongs to any package?
[07:43] <jahshua--> did you see the link i left
[07:43] <jahshua--> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[07:43] <jahshua--> its there under How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?
[07:44] <epp> ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?
[07:45] <kkathman> jahshua--: sounds like you are trying to get back to the profiles you had in hoary maybe?
[07:45] <kkathman> Determinist: Im not aware of a single command that tests a file to see if its in a package
[07:45] <arafat> Determinist: try apt-file
[07:46] <jahshua--> well i did the commands that they have on there and nothing has happened
[07:46] <leafw> how come kvim is not available for breezy ? What is the proper substitue for it (there are several listed: vim-tcl vim-python vim-perl vim-gtk vim-gnome )
[07:46] <jahshua--> im just wondering if everything is ok now
[07:47] <nalioth> Determinist: install and update apt-file. after that, run apt-file search $STRING
[07:47] <Determinist> nalioth: k mate, thanks
[07:47] <epp> ?
[07:47] <kkathman> nalioth:  thanks
[07:47] <kkathman> nalioth is king of the CLI
[07:48] <epp> where is the samba f9older located on the fs?
[07:48] <kkathman> jahshua--: if you are trying to reset Konq to the hoary config thats pretty well documented
[07:50] <kkathman> jahshua--: Not sure this is what you want but here's a reference:  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1603
[07:51] <kkathman> epp: samba isnt a folder, its a protocol
[07:51] <kkathman> well, there IS a samba folder (several in fact) but its a protocol
[07:51] <epp> kkathman, then how do i get to remote computers from just a base fs?
[07:52] <jahshua--> ok all i want to know is i did these two commands
[07:52] <jahshua--> sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[07:52] <jahshua--> then i did
[07:52] <kkathman> epp: you set up samba and they are accessible via the smb://
[07:52] <jahshua--> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[07:52] <jahshua--> so, nothing changed, but im worried i messed something up maybe
[07:52] <epp> kkathman, all amarok shows it a base fs. or i would just type that in.
[07:52] <kkathman> jahshua--: did you stop and start Konq ?
[07:52] <arafat> kkathman: just in case you're interested: you can disable dhcp offers during bootup in /etc/network/interfaces!
[07:53] <kkathman> epp did you try typing the smb(colon backslash) ??
[07:53] <kkathman> arafat: thanx...good info to know
[07:53] <epp> thaere is no place to type... its a dropdown box
[07:53] <jahshua--> no i didnt
[07:54] <kkathman> epp maybe someone who uses amarok more can tell you...I dont use it
[07:54] <jahshua--> i dont have it running, just an icon in the tray
[07:54] <jahshua--> thats all
[07:54] <kkathman> kaffeine does allow that tho
[07:54] <jahshua--> i opened it, but it was the same
[07:54] <zenlunatic> how do you mamke your screen brighter?
[07:55] <epp> welll some guy just told me to use sambafs and mount the computer to the local filesystem.
[07:59] <sambagirl> anyone know where i can find history for mozilla? i dont see it on the toolbar
[08:07] <Rubem> hi
[08:07] <Rubem> can I add a "Clear Workspace" button to the bar?
[08:07] <kkathman> sorry had to step away a moment
[08:08] <jahshua--> how do i stop and start Konq
[08:08] <kkathman> jahshua--: close it down and restart :)
[08:08] <rubem> ooops... back
[08:08] <jahshua--> well
[08:08] <jahshua--> i mean
[08:08] <rubem> can i add a "clear workspace" button?
[08:08] <jahshua--> i didnt have it open
[08:08] <jahshua--> since i did that
[08:09] <jahshua--> then i opened it
[08:09] <kkathman> jahshua--: dont have any ideas then, cuz that worked like a champ for me
[08:09] <kkathman> now...you wont notice any "difference" unless you go to the menus
[08:09] <kkathman> the menus are what changed
[08:10] <julien> hello
[08:10] <jahshua--> ok when i did sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[08:10] <jahshua--> nothing happened
[08:10] <jahshua--> in console
[08:10] <jahshua--> is that correct
[08:10] <jahshua--> like there as no text or anything
[08:10] <kkathman> yep
[08:11] <jahshua--> k
[08:11] <kkathman> thats a simple copy
[08:11] <kkathman> cp = copy
[08:11] <jahshua--> right
[08:11] <jahshua--> ok thanks kkathman
[08:11] <kkathman> np
[08:12] <kkathman> jahshua--: wait...you know what might have happened
[08:12] <kkathman> did you rename that destination file before you did that cp ??
[08:13] <jahshua--> no
[08:13] <kkathman> jahshua--: you needed to have renamed the /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[08:13] <kkathman> then did that cp command
[08:13] <jahshua--> how can i do that
[08:13] <rubem> can i add a "clear workspace" button?
[08:13] <kkathman> although you did it at root
[08:14] <jahshua--> i need to rename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc   ?
[08:14] <kkathman> hold a moment jahshua--
[08:14] <jahshua--> k
[08:18] <kkathman> jahshua--: just for grins, rename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqeror.rc.back
[08:18] <kkathman> then do your cp again
[08:19] <jahshua--> can you show me what to type
[08:19] <jahshua--> cause i dont know :/
[08:19] <kkathman> jahshua--: I just did
[08:19] <jahshua--> ok
[08:19] <kkathman> rename /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqeror.rc.back
[08:20] <jahshua--> first : same line ?
[08:20] <jahshua--> k
[08:20] <kkathman> we're just renaming the destimation file so you can cp to a clean file
[08:20] <jahshua--> Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share" (Missing operator before hare?)
[08:20] <jahshua--> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"
[08:21] <kkathman> ?
[08:21] <jahshua--> thats what it returned
[08:21] <jahshua--> when i did that
[08:21] <kkathman> hmmm
[08:21] <kkathman> ohh wait
[08:21] <kkathman> dang it...my bad
[08:21] <jahshua--> hehe
[08:21] <kkathman> instead of rename use mv
[08:21] <kkathman> duh
[08:21] <jahshua--> k
[08:21] <kkathman> rename is for multiple files
[08:22] <jahshua--> cannot move permission denied
[08:22] <jahshua--> do i need to sudo
[08:22] <kkathman> yah
[08:22] <kkathman> then do the sudo cp........  as before
[08:22] <jahshua--> k
[08:23] <jahshua--> ok
[08:23] <jahshua--> done
[08:23] <jahshua--> hmm
[08:23] <jahshua--> konq still looks the same :p
[08:23] <jahshua--> hehe
[08:23] <jahshua--> hmmmmmm
[08:24] <jahshua--> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[08:24] <jahshua--> yeh?
[08:26] <rubem> how can a make a read-only file writable?
[08:30] <Ouaaaahhh> Hello
[08:32] <kkathman> rubem: check its permissions first
[08:32] <Ouaaaahhh> With Konqueror How can I go to the / root directory ?
[08:32] <kkathman> rubem there may be a reason its read only :)
[08:32] <Ouaaaahhh> I want to access /tmp
[08:32] <Ouaaaahhh> with konqueror
[08:33] <kkathman> Ouaaaahhh: just type /
[08:33] <seth_k|lappy> Ouaaaahhh, just type /tmp in
[08:33] <kkathman> in the addie line
[08:33] <Ouaaaahhh> Ah !! Yes Thanks you
[08:33] <jahshua--> kkathamn is that the correct thing to copy ?
[08:33] <jahshua--> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[08:33] <kkathman> yes
[08:33] <jahshua--> hmm
[08:34] <jahshua--> nothing changed :/
[08:34] <kkathman> jah check your menu
[08:35] <jahshua--> hmm ok well when i click konq its the same
[08:35] <jahshua--> but the system has changed
[08:35] <jahshua--> like the system icon
[08:35] <kkathman> the konq itself wont change really
[08:35] <jahshua--> ok
[08:35] <kkathman> if you want to make changes
[08:36] <kkathman> you configure your output, then do a "save as" under tools
[08:40] <jahshua--> ok
[08:40] <jahshua--> do you use gnome ?
[08:44] <hussam> hey folks, I'm using kde 3.4.3 . Anybody using kde 3.5.0 can help check if something is a bug?
[08:44] <hussam> I mean if it fixed in kde 3.5.0
[08:45] <hussam> The bug is in konqueror. Firefox 1.0.7 had the same bug but they fixed it in 1.5
[08:47] <seth_k|lappy> hussam, i'm on 3.5.0, what's up
[08:48] <hussam> seth_k|lappy: it's actually a silly bug. 1. open konqueror to any page. 2. place the mouse over a link , the mouse pointer will show the little hand on the link
[08:49] <papa> hi
[08:49] <chema> How to play dvd in kubuntu?
[08:50] <kkathman> chema: kaffeine
[08:50] <hussam> seth_k|lappy: now using the scroll mouse wheel, scroll down without moving the mouse ( just roll the wheel )
[08:50] <chema> Not play, I need any codec?
[08:50] <papa> i don't know
[08:50] <seth_k|lappy> hussam, the cursor changes back to the pointer (doesn't remain as a hand)
[08:51] <hussam> seth_k|lappy: the mouse button will still show the little hand even if there is no link under the pointer,
[08:51] <seth_k|lappy> fixed then :)
[08:51] <hussam> seth_k|lappy: good because in kde 3.4.3, it stay a hand untill I move the pointer.
[08:52] <hussam> seth_k|lappy: ok thanks for the help
[08:52] <seth_k|lappy> np hussam
[08:54] <[Relic] > what file am I looking for to change the huge font in java to something that is compatible with the current theme/appearance I am using?
[08:55] <jahshua--> kkathman: do you use gnome ?
[08:55] <seth_k|lappy> in "java"? In a program that runs using Java, [Relic]  ?
[08:55] <kkathman> jahshua--: no sir ... KDE
[08:56] <[Relic] > either mozilla, the default root theme, or the java config are my best guess but I am not sure which is making the huge text
[08:56] <[Relic] > not sure which files to look to edit either
[08:57] <gnomefreak> is there any known issues with kubuntu-desktop 3.5 and apps like kdevelop3?
[08:57] <[Relic] > I know this current java application has been using smaller text before so I am sure I can change it because it had the normally smaller text in the last install of kubuntu, I am just not sure ion this one
[08:59] <jahshua--> kkathman isnt KDE .. konqueror ?
[08:59] <jahshua--> or part of it
[08:59] <jahshua--> heh
[08:59] <kkathman> jahshua--: no
[09:00] <kkathman> KDE is a desktop manager like fluxbox, xfce, gnome, etc
[09:00] <kkathman> Konqueror is a KDE application
[09:00] <jahshua--> ok right
[09:00] <gnomefreak> konqueror is a web browser for kde desktop
[09:01] <Determinist> just installed kwin-baghira, opened the windec prefs and most of them are off screen, anything i can do about it?
[09:12] <jahshua--> is xfce easy to use ?
[09:13] <nalioth> jahshua--: sure it is.
[09:13] <nalioth> jahshua--: install xubuntu-desktop and see for yourself
[09:16] <jahshua--> ok
[09:16] <jahshua--> xubuntu yeh?
[09:20] <kkathman> jahshua--: xubuntu is very good for smaller systems...not nearly the overhead of KDE, but still reasonably configurable
[09:21] <nalioth> jahshua--: and if you have  high-horsepower box, it'll speed it up so you'll need a seat belt
[09:24] <[Relic] > what is the easiest way to make root access have the same theme/appearance that my current settings have?
[09:24] <jahshua--> ok so should i just search xubuntu on adept ?
[09:24] <jahshua--> is that the best way
[09:25] <nalioth> [Relic] : you shouldn't be using 'root' things enough to be bothered
[09:25] <nalioth> jahshua--: xubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <kkathman> jahshua--: no, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <[Relic] > but I am thinking the defaults for java were set up in root so if I can match what I am using to root I could actually have the proper font sizes and then I could actually used adpet since I wouldn't have that hideous blaring white background
[09:27] <kkathman> jahshua--: then simply log out, and then at the splash screen click the sessions at the bottom left, and select xubuntu
[09:27] <kkathman> jahshua--: most apps will be gnome based, but since you have KDE you can still run KDE apps :)
[09:33] <jahshua--> oh thats great thanks alot kkathman :D
[09:34] <jahshua--> i have two more questions, easy ones :)
[09:34] <jahshua--> how many desktops are available for kubuntu
[09:35] <jahshua--> and i have already installed Gnome, but now i have all the Gnome appas in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome
[09:39] <epp> amarok wont play any sound... but i get system sounds...
[09:42] <hunika> hello
[09:42] <kkathman> epp you might need to install a different engine
[09:43] <hunika> I would like to ask a simple question
[09:43] <kkathman> like the xine one
[09:43] <epp> yeah... i did...
[09:43] <kkathman> go ahead hunika
[09:43] <xag> Hi
[09:43] <hunika> Can I have all the avaible packages for  ubuntu on cd?
[09:43] <epp> I installed the xine one and it still doesnt work.
[09:43] <hunika> kkathman: ?
[09:43] <kkathman> hunika well I suppose you could if they fit...theres like 17000
[09:43] <Xag_> I have a problem setting up kmail and courier-imap, I can not create new subfolder, does anyone can help?
[09:44] <kkathman> hunika do you want to install from there?
[09:44] <hunika> kkathman: I mean the basic ones because Fedora / Suse ships with 5 cd's
[09:44] <hunika> kkathman: in order to not to use net
[09:44] <kkathman> hunika I suppose you could
[09:44] <epp> kkathman, my video is wokring off the xine engine...
[09:44] <jahshua--> i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome
[09:44] <hunika> kkathman: to have xine, gimp, and so on
[09:44] <hunika> kkathman: w32codecs
[09:45] <kkathman> hunika you'd neet to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to install from CD tho
[09:45] <hunika> kkathman: but i can not download cd images
[09:45] <mase> can someone help me? im trying to auto mount my xp drive through fstab, but with read only permission to any user so i can play mp3s on that drive..
[09:45] <kkathman> hunika ohhh I see
[09:45] <RichardC> hey guys
[09:45] <kkathman> you mean can you actually GET a CD set of all the packages from Ubuntu?
[09:46] <mwe> is it somehow possible to change titlebar icon of an application?
[09:46] <hunika> kkathman: yes
[09:46] <hunika> kkathman: that is what i am talking about
[09:46] <RichardC> is there a way for me to lessen the amount of files that synaptic downloads at one time?
[09:46] <kkathman> hunika - hmmm I dont think thats available, no
[09:46] <epp> mase, i think there is an app out that auto does that for you...
[09:46] <kkathman> not that I know of at least
[09:46] <mase> epp: which
[09:46] <RichardC> i think that on my dial-up, i should lessen the number for more reliablility
[09:46] <hunika> kkathman: that is the main problem with ubuntu
[09:46] <RichardC> reliability
[09:46] <epp> mase, 1 sec i will check
[09:46] <hunika> kkathman: you need internet connection
[09:47] <kkathman> hunika: I suggest you file a bug report   at   bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <hunika> kkathman: to allow universe-multiuniverse to play mp3
[09:47] <kkathman> hunika: I dont disagree
[09:48] <hunika> kkathman: do you think that at this point of view suse, fedora are better
[09:48] <kkathman> no
[09:48] <kkathman> I dont like fedora at all
[09:48] <kkathman> SuSE is quite robust, I'll admit
[09:48] <kkathman> if I were to run anything other than ubuntu, I'd run SUSE
[09:49] <kkathman> hunika: remember it costs alot of money to make and distribute CDs
[09:49] <hunika> kkathman: then why you use ubuntu if you think that suse is better
[09:49] <jahshua--> i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome?
[09:49] <kkathman> distributing one is one thing..but 5 or 6 is alot...especially since ubuntu doesnt sell commercial packages yet
[09:50] <hunika> kkathman: are you sure that the bugzilla address is corect
[09:50] <kkathman> both Fedora and SUSE do sell commericially
[09:50] <mase> epp: find anything ?
[09:50] <epp> mase, hold for 1 more minute.
[09:50] <kkathman> hunika: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:50] <hunika> kkathman: the problem with ubuntu is that it does not works out from the box
[09:50] <kkathman> hunika: it did for me
[09:51] <hunika> kkathman: you could play mp3, avi and so on?
[09:51] <kkathman> sure
[09:51] <kkathman> not mp3s because you have to get the codex
[09:51] <justanother> g' evening guys
[09:51] <kkathman> codecs
[09:52] <jahshua--> anyone can help me ?
[09:52] <kkathman> but thats because those arent "legal" if you will
[09:52] <jahshua--> i have installed Gnome, now i have all the Gnome apps in my KDE also, how can i seperate them so that i just have KDE apps in KDE and Gnome apps in Gnome?
[09:52] <hunika> kkathman:  that is the problem you see
[09:52] <kkathman> no thats not a problem...thats necessary
[09:52] <hunika> kkathman: windows in this point of view is better
[09:52] <jahshua--> lol
[09:52] <kkathman> jahshua--: you cannot separate them...you have both available which is a good thing
[09:53] <jahshua--> ok cool
[09:53] <epp> mase, i have used it before... but noone semms to know of it... so i will google it for you.
[09:53] <kkathman> hunika: well seeing that windows pays the licenses that may be true to an extent
[09:53] <kkathman> but then Windows isnt free
[09:53] <jahshua--> AND
[09:53] <jahshua--> its not linux!
[09:53] <jahshua--> :D
[09:53] <kkathman> right
[09:53] <kkathman> and not OSS
[09:53] <jahshua--> not alot of things in fact :p
[09:53] <hunika> kkathman: yes it is not free, but you can play almost every file formats with it
[09:54] <kkathman> hunika: you are either committed to open source or you arent
[09:54] <hunika> kkathman: I am a new user at linux so I think I am objective
[09:54] <hunika> kkathman: I like it
[09:54] <justanother> i have a problem with kde and sudo... the administrator mode isn't working
[09:54] <kkathman> hunika: no argument there
[09:54] <justanother> i searched and found this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681
[09:54] <kkathman> you see those MP3 formats arent public domain
[09:54] <justanother> but it says it's already fixed (i'm using 5.10)
[09:54] <kkathman> and I dare say that you are probably playing illegal music anyway :)
[09:55] <hunika> kkathman: anyway i will write to bugzilla in hope that someone out there in the ubuntu world will do something
[09:55] <kkathman> but, then issue is that linux distros wont typically include these on any disks unless you pay for it
[09:55] <epp> !tell mase about ntfs
[09:55] <jahshua--> kkathman how many other desktops are available for kubuntu??
[09:55] <hussam> kkathman: that's why I only play internet radio
[09:55] <justanother> i tried several things like kdesu systemsettings, sudo systemsettings - nohting works :( - can anybody help me plz
[09:55] <jahshua--> too many to name ?
[09:55] <kkathman> fedora and suse do NOT have codecs or restricted formats either
[09:55] <hussam> kkathman: I don't do mp3's
[09:55] <kkathman> unless you buy their boxed sets
[09:56] <kkathman> they have to do it that way dont you see
[09:56] <hunika> kkathman: my problem with ubuntu is that at my pc it does not worked out from the box
[09:56] <hunika> kkathman: i needed to download xine engine
[09:56] <jahshua--> thats part of the fun
[09:57] <hunika> kkathman: and a few packages
[09:57] <jahshua--> imo
[09:57] <RichardC> kkathman: do you know how to change the number of files that synaptic will download at one time?
[09:57] <jahshua--> you get to choose what you use
[09:57] <hunika> kkathman: but who don't has a net connection
[09:57] <kkathman> hunika - I'd dare say that your definition of "out of the box working" is different than mine
[09:58] <kkathman> you didnt have to download the xine, for instance
[09:58] <hunika> probably
[09:58] <hunika> kkathman: at mine pc i had to because gstreamer engine did not work
[09:59] <kkathman> hunika - but it DOES work, if you spend the time working on it I think
[09:59] <kkathman> now there are things that are NOT on the install...which I personally like
[09:59] <kkathman> I HATE fedora that installs EVERYTHING...its so bloated
[09:59] <kkathman> better to ADD to your install, rather than take away
[10:00] <epp> mace, sorry, it has been deleted. but i have the code right here...
[10:00] <mase> yeah, i just noticed
[10:01] <epp> i will put it all together, and send it to you.
[10:01] <mase> ok thanks
[10:02] <epp> mase, sending file.
[10:03] <mase> k, waiting
[10:04] <epp> mase, its being send through DCC, did a window popup?
[10:06] <mase> nope
[10:06] <epp> mase, i will upload it to my webserver... will send link in a jiffy.
[10:06] <mase> thanks dude
[10:09] <LazyAce`> ok, lets say i have ubuntu as my main install, and i decided i wanted to check out kubuntu, and installed hte kubuntu set up, and it messed up my ubuntu install partially, how could i delete kubuntu and not affect my ubuntu?
[10:11] <hunika> kkathman-away: I have posted my views at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/6310.
[10:12] <epp> mase, in Konsole type "wget http://www.epfiles.com/linux/winmac_fstab" > "chmod 777 winmac_fstab" > "sudo ./winmac_fstab"
[10:14] <mase> alright..
[10:14] <mase> done that..
[10:14] <mase> do i have to mount it again?
[10:14] <epp> did it work?
[10:14] <mase> or what
[10:15] <epp> no its mounted...
[10:15] <epp> im media
[10:15] <mase> ah mount -a
[10:15] <epp> is it sucsesful?
[10:15] <mase> yeah, totally
[10:15] <mase> thanks a bunch
[10:15] <epp> yea
[10:15] <LazyAce`> PENIS
[10:16] <epp> i knew it was outhere...
[10:16] <LazyAce`> that wasn't supposed to cross networks lol
[10:16] <epp> hehe
[10:16] <mase> =] 
[10:17] <epp> k so back to my problem everyone... amarok wont play sound, but system sounds play.
[10:19] <mase> amarok?
[10:19] <mase> use xmms..
[10:19] <brunocs> Hello all. I'm having some problems with mounting.. Can anyone help me?
[10:20] <apokryphos> !helpme
[10:20] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:20] <apokryphos> =)
[10:21] <jahshua> oooh i like XFCE
[10:21] <jahshua> :D
[10:21] <jahshua> thanks kkathman
[10:21] <kkathman-away> np
[10:22] <brunocs> OK. I have one CDRW/DVD-ROM drive and one DVD-RW drive. When I insert a disk in the DVD-RW drive, everything works fine (it automounts and opens the media:/ window). However, when I insert a DVD into the CDRW/DVD-ROM drive, it fails (strangely, it works if the disk is a CD, both data or music. The problem appears to be only w/ DVD disks)
[10:23] <brunocs> the specific error is: "An error occurred while loading media:/hdd: The file or folder media:/hdd does not exist."
[10:24] <brunocs> \/dev/hdd is my CDRW/DVD-ROM drive, which is the one w/ automount problems for DVD disks
[10:24] <brunocs> I appreciate any hints! :-) Thanks
[10:26] <epp> mase: but amarok has a nice itunes style library.
[10:27] <apokryphos> mase: xmms is the worst application out now that some people still actually freakin' use :)
[10:27] <Chousuke> xmms really suffers from its age.
[10:27] <mase> bah i still use xmms..
[10:27] <Chousuke> nothing wrong with the app itself.
[10:27] <mase> what's a good one then?
[10:27] <Chousuke> it's just old
[10:27] <epp> mase, amarok =).
[10:27] <DaSkreech> Ahhhhhh
[10:27] <apokryphos> considering the other applications that are out, it's pretty absurd to still use it
[10:27] <apokryphos> JuK and amaroK are my favourite
[10:27] <DaSkreech> Whats wrong with my machine
[10:28] <Chousuke> And nowadays I for one would appreciate proper support for unicode and stuff, at least.
[10:28] <DaSkreech> I left it on last night and everything is moving pixel by pixel now
[10:28] <DaSkreech> Thats not supposed to happen :-(
[10:29] <brunocs> does anyone have any hints on my problem, please?
[10:29] <epp> apokryphos, im getting no output, and i have tried all the engines.
[10:29] <apokryphos> epp: which ones have you tried?
[10:29] <apokryphos> Did you get the codecs, if it's mp3s you're trying to play?
[10:30] <epp> gstreamer, xine, aRts
[10:31] <apokryphos> epp: with the xine engine, does it look like it's playing?
[10:31] <epp> yeah... but very fast.
[10:31] <apokryphos> if it's not working, then (i) your sound system altogether is mucked up, (ii) the volume isn't on.
[10:31] <apokryphos> epp: fast?
[10:31] <epp> like it gets through a song in like 4 seconds but no sound
[10:32] <apokryphos> :/
[10:32] <apokryphos> epp: with the other engines?
[10:32] <epp> well... gstreamer just says that it cant be played... and i dont want to use aRts
[10:33] <apokryphos> epp: install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg
[10:33] <mase> ugh amarok is gay
[10:33] <mase> doesnt play mp3s
[10:33] <apokryphos> no, amarok is not gay, and yes -- it does play mp3s if you get the codecs
[10:33] <mase> oh fosho
[10:33] <mase> then i will get them
[10:34] <apokryphos> I just mentioned them (see up)
[10:34] <epp> mase, "apt-get install mpg321"
[10:34] <epp> :)
[10:34] <apokryphos> solution!
[10:34] <epp> yeah!!!! it works!
[10:34] <epp> i uninstalled mpg321 and reinstalled!
[10:35] <mase> k
[10:35] <mase> still doesnt work
[10:35] <mase> wont add my files
[10:35] <epp> what do u mean...
[10:36] <mase> wont add the files..
[10:36] <apokryphos> mase: huh?
[10:36] <mase> on that build collection thing
[10:36] <mase> it says they're not "playable"
[10:36] <apokryphos> mase: install those codecs, as listed above, close amarok, restart it, then drag whatever mp3s you want into the playlist
[10:36] <apokryphos> mase: well, what's the exact error?
[10:36] <epp> yeah... after u select the folders u want to add... push tools>rescan collection
[10:37] <brunocs> Hello all. I saw on the wiki that media:/ doesn't use HAL. Anyone knows what this means, and if it can have anything to do with mounting problems?
[10:38] <mase> k
[10:38] <mase> still doesnt work
[10:38] <epp> really... thats odd.
[10:38] <apokryphos> mase: what is the error already
[10:38] <epp> are u clicking on collecting to left?
[10:38] <epp> collection*
[10:38] <apokryphos> brunocs: where did you see that?
[10:38] <mase> well the tracks are added on the left
[10:38] <mase> but it doesnt play :/
[10:39] <epp> yeah... exactly my prob.
[10:39] <apokryphos> mase: it doesn't play, and amarok gives you no error?
[10:39] <mase> exactly
[10:39] <epp> go to amarok settings.
[10:39] <mase> er
[10:39] <mase> not playable
[10:39] <mase> but this time it added em
[10:39] <apokryphos> huh?
[10:39] <epp> yeah... ok
[10:39] <_gigi_> salve
[10:39] <epp> go to settings>amarok config> engine
[10:39] <apokryphos> it's a pretty simple process, not quite sure how you guys are getting this muddled...
[10:40] <apokryphos> install the codecs > open amarok > drag in and play an mp3. How hard can that be?
[10:40] <epp> i think he needs the xine engine.
[10:40] <epp> apt-get install amarok-xine
[10:41] <mase> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:41] <mase>   amarok-xine: Depends: amarok (= 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4) but 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 is to b    e installed
[10:41] <mad_man> isten there somthing about you have to install some special packages before you can play mp3 files?
[10:41] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[10:41] <ubotu> amarok 1.3.7 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[10:41] <apokryphos> mase: go there
[10:42] <apokryphos> mad_man: yes
[10:42] <gigi> nessun italiano in room??
[10:42] <epp> gigi, babelfish translate?
[10:42] <gigi> no
[10:42] <mase> k
[10:43] <mase> wtf is that, apokryphos ?
[10:43] <apokryphos> gigi: #ubuntu-it
[10:43] <apokryphos> mase: the newest amarok
[10:43] <mase> well wheres the downlaod thing for it
[10:43] <mase> :/
[10:43] <gigi> ok
[10:43] <gigi> tanks
[10:44] <mase> er
[10:44] <mase> whats the thing for it again
[10:44] <mase> apt/sources.list ?
[10:45] <mase> got it..
[10:45] <mase> installinggg
[10:46] <mase> so what irc client should i use?
[10:46] <mase> konversation, xchat ?
[10:47] <apokryphos> konversation is good
[10:47] <epp> mase are u running hoary or breezy?
[10:47] <mase> no idea what that means
[10:47] <epp> im using konversation.
[10:47] <epp> its your version of ubuntu
[10:47] <mase> dont know
[10:47] <epp> breezy is the brand new one.
[10:48] <mase> then its that one
[10:48] <epp> hoary is like a few moths old
[10:48] <robotgeek> mase: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <mase> is it bad that i have hoary stuff on my sources list?
[10:48] <mase> hehe
[10:48] <apokryphos> mase: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <apokryphos> ah
[10:48] <robotgeek> apokryphos: :)
[10:48] <mase> its the newest kubuntu
[10:48] <mase> soooooo
[10:48] <apokryphos> .....what's the output?
[10:49] <mase> breezy bagger..
[10:49] <epp> im using amarok 1.3.1
[10:50] <epp> it works fine...
[10:50] <Tachyon> Anyone have a good link to documentation on mounting drives?  The stuff in the Ubuntu Guide only covers a bit of it. :/
[10:50] <robotgeek> !ntfs
[10:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:50] <mase> ok
[10:50] <mase> now it plays
[10:50] <epp> Tachyon, ntfs windows?
[10:50] <mase> just updating it worked
[10:50] <epp> its nice =)
[10:50] <Tachyon> epp: No, my Windows parition is fine.  I want to fix some issues I've got with both the CD/DVD drive and with my USB key.
[10:51] <mase> well
[10:51] <mase> how do i keep the blue thing opened
[10:51] <mase> when you first play a song
[10:51] <epp> set it
[10:53] <jahshua> hello, im just wondering what other window managers there is aside from kde, gnome and XFCE.. anyone know any others that are fairly easy to use
[10:53] <epp> mase, amarok > xmms?
[10:53] <epp> or =?
[10:53] <epp> or<?
[10:53] <mase> well if it would stay the same size xmms stays..
[10:53] <epp> you can set it to look like xmms...
[10:53] <mase> yeah but its fucking huge
[10:54] <robotgeek> jahshua: fluxbox, openbox , several
[10:54] <robotgeek> jahshua: apt-cache search window | grep manager
[10:54] <mase> can amarok play shoutcast live radio
[10:55] <robotgeek> mase: yes
[10:55] <jahshua> ok
[10:55] <jahshua> thanks robot
[10:55] <mase> lol
[10:55] <mase> i got rid of borders on it
[10:55] <mase> how do i get it back?
[10:55] <robotgeek> jahshua: np, looks like you havent found tab complete yet
[10:55] <epp> yeah... its on the left bar under... playlists>Radio Streams
[10:55] <jahshua> hm?
[10:56] <robotgeek> jahshua: robot<press tab key> should autocomplete to robotgeek
[10:56] <jahshua> robotgeek
[10:56] <jahshua> nope
[10:56] <jahshua> hmm
[10:56] <robotgeek> jahshua: there ya go
[10:56] <jahshua> nah i typed that :p
[10:57] <jahshua> hehehe
[10:57] <mase> how do i get the borders back ? :/
[10:57] <robotgeek> jahshua: hmm, what client are you using?
[10:57] <mase> ah got it
[10:58] <epp> mase, hu?
[10:58] <lorenzo> hi
[10:58] <robotgeek> hey lorenzo
[10:58] <epp> hey lorenzo.
[10:58] <lorenzo> hey
[10:58] <epp> need help?
[10:59] <lorenzo> any italian here?
[10:59] <robotgeek> #kubuntu-it , maybe. also try #ubuntu-it
[10:59] <robotgeek> !it
[10:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:00] <jahshua> robot: irssi
[11:00] <lorenzo> prego :-)
[11:00] <lorenzo> grazie a voi
[11:00] <lorenzo> thanks
[11:00] <robotgeek> jahshua: it should work, it works for me
[11:00] <yacc> Just wondering, is there a way to cross-update a Sarge system to Ubuntu? *wonder*
[11:00] <robotgeek> yacc: people have done it, i believe
[11:01] <lorenzo> robotgeek, do you really think it's possible?
[11:01] <mase> so how do i make konversation transparent
[11:01] <lorenzo> i would like to do it
[11:02] <epp> meh... i dunno... i need all the cpu i can get so i lay off that.
[11:02] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFAQ?highlight=%28sarge%29
[11:03] <robotgeek> yacc: ^^
[11:04] <epp> anyone know of some good games for linux?
[11:04] <epp> freeware?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> http://www.happypenguin.org
[11:04] <robotgeek> epp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games
[11:05] <epp> any names of the best ones?
[11:05] <epp> personal favorites mabey?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> epp: What are you interested in?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Wesnoth!! :)
[11:05] <robotgeek> epp: i don't play any, so sorry
[11:05] <epp> rpg, action, shooter,
[11:05] <epp> but my videocard cant do 3d so im kinda screwed for the best ones.
[11:06] <DaSkreech> I like Lost Labrynith
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Action .. I guess I play Metal Blob Solid more than the others
[11:06] <DaSkreech> And Chromium is one of the betetr shooters
[11:06] <DaSkreech> better
[11:07] <angasule> I'd love a clone of Fury of the Furries
[11:07] <epp> mmm very good... i will chack these out
[11:10] <Tachyon> When I try to play a DVD from my DVD drive in Totem, I get the following error: "Failed to open device /dev/hdc for reading: Permission denied"
[11:12] <epp> Tachyon tried running "sudo Totem"?
[11:14] <Tachyon> epp: Then I get this error in Konsole: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/484687
[11:14] <Tachyon> (After attempting to play the DVD; Totem opens fine)
[11:15] <mase> well hello there
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Can pacakges graduate from one repository to another?
[11:16] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: graduate?
[11:16] <brunocs> An error occurred while loading media:/hdd:
[11:16] <brunocs> The file or folder media:/hdd does not exist."
[11:16] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Yeah
[11:17] <brunocs> Hello all. I'm using the latest version of Kubuntu and I'm facing a mounting problem. My CDRW-DVDROM drive succefully automounts and opens the media:/ window when I insert a CD disk, but fails when I try to put a DVD disk. The error is "An error occurred while loading media:/hdd: The file or folder media:/hdd does not exist.". Any ideas, please?
[11:17] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: what do you mean by graduate?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Well go from Universe to main
[11:17] <DaSkreech> or from multiverse to universe
[11:18] <epp> Tachyon, sorry i have no idea... try asking in #ubuntu
[11:18] <Tachyon> epp: 'Kay, thanks anyway. :)
[11:19] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: prob not from multiverse to universe, but maybe from universe to main
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Multiverse is strictly non free?
[11:19] <epp> DaSkreech, do u have freecraft?
[11:20] <nalioth> DaSkreech: depends on if the license changes
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Right
[11:20] <DaSkreech> So Blender could have migrated from multiverse to universe for example
[11:21] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: blender is in multiverse?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> Would have been
[11:21] <DaSkreech> it was a commercial Linux application
[11:22] <epp> is there a java editor for linux?
[11:22] <MarcC-away> epp, jedit?
[11:22] <DaSkreech> emacs?
[11:23] <robotgeek> vim :)
[11:23] <MarcC-away> is there a way to get the Konqueror built-in Konsole back? (The one that attaches to the bottom of the window and follows you around)
[11:23] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: isn't blender in main
[11:24] <robotgeek> yes it is in main, was in universe before
[11:24] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: It would have been in multiverse about three years ago
[11:24] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: hmm, i only heard abt blender much later :)
[11:25] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Essetially the answer I'm looking for is yes then :)
[11:25] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: yes
[11:25] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Whats the main criteria for main?
[11:26] <ninnghizidha> Hello! My Volume-Up/Down keys can move the onscreen-volume-metre, but the volume doesnt change ...
[11:26] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[11:26] <ninnghizidha> .. and i cant get it to work the right way.
[11:26] <ninnghizidha> may someone help me to get this working?
[11:27] <ninnghizidha> i got two soundcards, and i guess kubuntu switches the volume of the other soundcard
[11:29] <jahshua> robotgeek: there is a windows manager called gentoo ?
[11:29] <robotgeek> jahshua: it's a file manager, like konqueror/nautilus
[11:29] <epp> try going to multimedia>volume control>file>device then pick the soundcard your device is hooked up to
[11:30] <epp> ninnghizidha, ^
[11:33] <jahshua> ok
[11:34] <ninnghizidha> I was there, but the device was already the right one ... and the volume-keys still behave not as they should
[11:42] <jahshua> robotgeek: fvwm isnt in that list, but its available ?
[11:42] <robotgeek> jahshua: shud be
[11:42] <epp> im back!
[11:43] <jahshua> the command would be .. sudo apt-get install fvwm  ?
[11:44] <jahshua> the command would be .. sudo apt-get install fvwm-desktop  ?
[11:44] <jahshua> heh
[11:48] <jahshua> is that correct
[11:51] <nalioth> !info fvwm
[11:51] <ubotu> fvwm: (F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.5.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2914 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB
[11:51] <nalioth> jahshua: just fvwm   there is no -desktop
[11:54] <jahshua> ok cool
[11:54] <jahshua> thank you
[11:57] <Yon> help me plz!
[11:57] <Yon> im trying to set up my dialup network
[11:58] <Yon> its dials up and conects but then i get a pppd error
[11:58] <Yon> saying there is a problem with my password
[11:58] <Yon> i made use the password is right 1000 times
[11:59] <Yon> PLZ HELP ME