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MilesMarcN: it said "selecting mysql-client-4.1 instead of mysql-client," and then whined about "the following packages have unmet dependencies"  two about perl, and one about mysql-common-4.1 but it is not installable, followed by an E: Broken Packages.....   thoughts?12:00
sally_moodog: I dont have the install cd, just some OEM reinstall discs, not the XP discs12:00
kcodenametlol12:00
navaronehosler...then stop banging...<s>12:00
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GanjhiHmm, it doesn't seem to be adding Root Terminal to the System Menu.12:00
hoslernavarone: even if i lay down a glass of water it will restart12:00
vb_coderSeveas: are you saying opera can not be installed on breezy?12:00
MarcNMiles: which ubuntu version are you running?  How did you install mysql?12:00
GanjhiI'll just open it in terminal12:00
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moodogsally_: you might be able to make some recovery disks with the system tools in windows12:00
sally_maskd:  sda1 and sda2 are windows and sda5 and sda6 are linux swap and ext312:00
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Miles5.10, installed mysql via "bitrock" lamp stack installer from sugarcrm 3.5.1 installer download12:01
sephranI did:  sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on?12:01
Seveasvb_coder, yes it can, if you choose the debian eth version12:01
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navaronevb_coder, I have opera installed...dl the deb from the opera site12:01
vb_coderSeveas: what is eth?12:01
sephranignore: ntfs typo12:01
fraggstahey, I'm finally IRCing from my iBook which is now almost FULLY operational running Ubuntu :D12:01
maskdsally_: so you dont have an OEM disc that is used to install windows?12:01
Seveasvb_coder, i mean etch, look at deb.opera.com12:02
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fangoriousanyone know why network-manager requires bind9?12:02
Epixwhere can i download a reiserfsprogs DEB file on windows. I need to use it on a comp with no network.12:02
Seveasvb_coder, http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/etch/non-free/12:02
MarcNMiles: why not install mysql from apt-get instead?  Then you have no dependency issues.    Or you can see if that installer provided a package for the clients.  I never install using dpkg -i foo.deb if i can help it.12:02
fangoriousthe dhcdbd dependency I understand12:02
moodogsally_: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to install the recovery console12:02
hoslerMarcN: what could be loose?12:02
moodogsally_: then: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to fix the mbr12:03
sally_maskd: right, I have some OEM discs that will put the machine back into the state it was when I got it, but I don't even have those with me now12:03
navaronehosler...how old is 'puter...and is it laptop or desktop?12:03
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sally_moodog: thanks a ton I will check those out12:03
MarcNhosler: anything.  memory, cards, mobo hitting the case.  anything that can cause a short12:03
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GanjhiHow do you navigate to a certain file in Root Terminal?12:03
MilesMarcN:  due to my hideous newbie status, I figured it would be best to go with a stack installer, as opposed to module at a time.. and since at this point mysql does function, i'm hesitant to restart it12:03
lampshadeWhat's the correct order for installing Xorg and then FLuxbox as well?  I tried last night and ended up very frustrated with the two not playing along with eachother.12:03
moodogsally_: sorry, seems you need the setup cd to use that option too...12:03
hoslernavarone: its a desktop i assembled about 2 years ago12:03
MarcNfangorious: because it needs a d-bus aware dhcpd client.12:03
sally_moodog: yeah I just realized12:03
naliothlampshade: one needs xorg in order for flux to work12:04
navaronehosler...have you added any hardware lately?12:04
Zambbalampshade: Install xserver-xorg, gdm/kdm/xdm and fluxbox12:04
MarcNMiles: check to see if they provide client packages.12:04
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fraggstathere's just one thing..how do I set it up so that command+click and alt+click generate middle/right click in X on a Mac?12:04
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hoslerMarcN: this sounds funny, but i forgot to put that little plastic things between the screws and the motherboard. could that be the problem?12:04
melodielampshade, the server first, the gui after12:04
hoslernavarone: ho12:04
hoslerno*12:04
hoslerlol12:04
fangoriousMarcN: that's why it needs dhcdbd, which I understand. I don't understand bind9 (isn't that a DNS server?)12:05
MarcNhosler: I'd bet that is the problem.12:05
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naliothfraggsta: you'll probably have better luck asking Mac/OSX questions somewhere else12:05
sephranI did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)12:05
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robotgeeklampshade: if you apt-get install fluxbox, it will install xserver first12:05
navaronehosler...what psu you use? watts?12:05
fraggstanalioth, as I said, this ibook is now running Ubuntu (solely)12:05
hoslernavarone: Antec 430W12:05
moodogsally_: you have /boot as a seperate partion?12:05
hoslerMarcN: Where can i get those?12:05
hosleri odnt know what they are called12:05
MarcNfangorious: yeah, it does some funky things with using a local, caching only dns server.  The Red Hat guy who implemented it was at our LUG and said it was needed for some VPN (I think) support.12:05
navaronehosler has the reboots started recently?12:05
sally_moodog: no, sda1 is some hidden system restore partition that was on the machine when I got it, sda5 and sda6 are swap and /12:06
hoslernavarone: no. they started a while back, but they have become more frequent. I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE!12:06
MarcNhosler: beats me.  Just make sure that the mobo never touches metal on the case.12:06
fangoriousMarcN: man, I was hoping he had gotten away from that. I made DNS really freaking slow last time I tried it on Fedora12:06
hoslershoot12:06
MilesMarcN:  any direction on how to look? there's a mysql folder, what would I be looking for?12:06
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navaronehosler> when syatem reboots what kind of beeps do you get at post? Just one normal or any other?12:06
moodogsally_: other than strinking your linux partion to the minimum and using the free space that created I can't think of another option.12:06
MarcNMiles: i've not used sugar nor that lamp installer.12:07
pashawGanjhi,   did you setup a root user?12:07
ardchoillesally_: is that an hp computer?12:07
moodogsally_: other than fixmbr12:07
MarcNMiles: mysql-client*.deb12:07
naliothfraggsta: well congratulations (i use a 3 button mouse, so idk your asnwer)12:07
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sally_ardchoille: it's an acer12:07
hoslernavarone: well thats another thing. sometimes it will beep once (thats normal) and other times it wont beep at all and just sit there.12:07
Mileswhen you install mysql in that way, you get a mysql folder in home yes? Does that folder contain the client app you describe? Or am I mixed up here?12:07
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sephranit's been 24:00 hours, if I finish this..I can finally head back home...through the snow, and ice...and cold.12:07
sephranI did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)12:08
sally_moodog: you are under the impression that if I just format the partition to ntfs grub will not be able to boot?12:08
ardchoillesally_: yeah, manufacturers often do that so you can restore the original OS rather than having to ship the OS CD's12:08
navaronehosler I would disconnect and open up and make sure everything is connected properly and cards are seated and such12:08
hoslerk12:08
fraggstanalioth, it's an old ibook, I'm going to use it pretty much only as something to use in bed when I'm being lazy, so I kinda need to get the trackpad to generate middle/right clicks..but I'll be heading off to google now :)12:08
hoslernavarone: do you know what those things are called that go between the screws and the motherboard?12:08
navaronehosler? I've never put a machine together from scratch so you ar eahead of me on that...lol12:08
naliothfraggsta: f12 is the right click key12:08
maskdscrew mounts or something arent they12:08
robotgeekfraggsta: try F11 and F1212:08
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hoslerok12:09
MarcNMiles: I always use apt-get install WHATEVER which satisfies all dependencies.  mysql's binaries should be in /usr/bin/, not under /home,  of course who knows what that fancy installer does12:09
navaronehosler> I know what you mean...like bushings or silicone washers?12:09
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fraggstanalioth/robotgeek sweet, that works great.  Thanks guys!12:09
maskdhosler: you shoudl always remember to have them, screwing the motherboard straight to the back plate can have some back side effects12:09
GanjhiHas anybody here ever installed Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on Ubuntu? The Freeware game?12:09
pashawhosler,   brass spacers or the tiny washers?12:09
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Tobaubotu: tell me about firefox1512:10
hoslerpashaw: i dont know. all i know is that they are there so the motherboard doesnt touch any metal.12:10
sephranwhats the command to unmount?12:10
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calamariGanjhi: no.. I'd like to though, once I repair the fan on my 3d card12:10
Zambbasephran: umount12:10
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pashawhosler,   thats not true12:10
GanjhiIt's a pretty fun game Calamari, you'll enjoy it.12:10
calamariGanjhi: yeah, I played it in windows12:11
hoslerpashaw: then what do they do?12:11
pashawhosler,   the screws are what grounds the motherboard to the case12:11
GanjhiI just can't figure out how to navigate to a specific file in root terminal.12:11
dannymarcN, was creating a webserver earlier and installed php, and apache2 and they work f9, i installed mysql how do i check that it is working12:11
fraggstaGanjhi, I emerged it once while I ran gentoo (oh god I ended up hating gentoo), but that..uh...doesn't help you much sorry :S12:11
MarcNMiles:  you really want to install mysql-client because it includes mysqlcheck, mysqldump, etc.12:11
GanjhiOther than that, it seems straight forward enough to install.12:11
ZambbaCan I ask ubotu to tell me things in query?12:11
pashawhosler,   using the washers helps you to not over tighten them12:11
maskdGanjhi: just cd to a directory12:11
hosleroh12:11
MilesMarcN: i've got a "mysql-admin" but no mysql-client as you describe it.. so the apt-get syntax to get mysql-client is what?12:11
Ganjhi...12:11
pashawhosler,    you dont want to crush the board    i never use those washers   built  hmmm   50+ puters12:12
maskdGanjhi: what happens when you use the cd command?12:12
hoslerpashaw: are you sure? because my friends psu blew up and the guys who fixed it said it was because those things werent installed.12:12
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MarcNMiles: mysql-admin is the MySQL gui, mysql-client is the command line set of tools.12:12
pashawhosler,  power supplies go out all the time    has nothing to do with those washers12:13
GanjhiI have not used the cd command, nor do I know the cd command. I'm THE linux noobie of the week.12:13
maskdhosler: it's one of those things that are better to have12:13
hoslerpashaw: ok well im stumped. im pretty sure something is shorting out, but i cant figure out what.12:13
robotgeekubotu: tell Ganjhi about cli12:13
maskdGanjhi: cd stands for current directory12:13
GanjhiPerfect, thanks.12:13
GanjhiThis'll help loads.12:13
MarcNdanny: mysql?   from the command line:   $ mysql12:13
MilesMarcN:  Ahh.. clarity.  Cool. Is there a way to determine what version of mySQL i'm using at this point, does the version of the client have to match up with the version of mysql?12:13
john_Anyone know much about Amorak?12:13
pashawhosler,   if its shorting     hookup the motherboard and powe supply  outside the case on a clean counter top  or cardboard12:14
pashawhosler,    wood would be good also12:14
pashawhosler,    then you elimate the case   for the short12:14
pashawsorry offtopic12:14
navaronehmmm...carve out stump for computer case...<s>12:14
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john_I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?12:14
dannyMarcN, it dont say owt12:14
thegladiator!paste12:14
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:14
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MarcNMiles: doesn't have to be.  the client versions don't have to match the server versions.  just need to speak compatible wire protocols, which it would complain about if it was a problem.12:15
dannyMarcN, not even command not found12:15
oskudei used linux like over 4years, but i never copied an audio cd, whats the "best" way ?12:15
hoslerpashaw: so just never use a case?12:15
dannyMarcN, does tht mean its workin?12:15
MarcNdanny: then you too need to install mysql-client.12:15
fraggstaoskude, I like to use "grip"12:15
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lampshadeI have installed xserver-xorg, fluxbox, and now tightvncserver, how can I start X or better yet, start the vncserver and just vnc right into fluxbox?  Is that possible at this point?  DO I need to startx before vnc or does vnc start x?12:15
pashawhosler,     thats how you troublehsoot a short12:15
hoslerpashaw: and if it does keep restarting, what does that tell me?12:16
gnomefreakstartx?12:16
maskdoskude: sound juicer comes with ubuntu12:16
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MilesMarcN: when I ran"  sudo apt-get install mysql-client "  I got the packages have unmet dependencies errors.. did I type that incorrectly?12:16
thegladiatorsince a week each time I open syanaptic i get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6345 , each time i do a apt update and still it comes after next reboot12:16
oskudefraggsta: i got only one drive, does "grip" make an image firts and then burn wiht that ime ?12:16
MarcNdanny: mysql is usually packaged up as a server, client and gui.  All don't need to be installed, only those pieces you may need.   say just the server or just the client, but I like to have both12:16
sephranis there a zip program for ubuntu that windows can open?12:16
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oskudeor, can gnomebaker copy an audio cd ?12:17
meepyI'm having a problem installing the newest guinotifications, I downloaded the source package and ./configure it - But then it gives me this error "checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met" But I have gaim? :S12:17
thegladiatorsephran, what exactly are you looking for ?12:17
fraggstaoskude, actually..it won't do what you want, grip is just for ripping sorry12:17
gnomefreakoskude, yes it can (should)12:17
maskdsephran: winRAR unpacks a lot of formats12:17
MarcNMiles:  install those dependencies too.12:17
john_I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?12:17
dannyMarcN, well i put apt-get install mysql-client and it sed mysql-client is already newest version12:17
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thegladiatorjohn_, ask in #amarok12:17
sephranI just want to transfer files from this pc, to the laptop on the network.  zip it up, send it through email12:17
MarcNdanny: $ mysql says not such command?12:18
MilesMarcN: all three of them that are listed say "but it is not installable" after them..12:18
gnomefreakthegladiator,  try taking the in out of the list and see if it works than?12:18
fraggstaoskude, wouldn't doing this work?  "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso; cdrecord image.iso" ?12:18
pashawhosler,   shorted power supply   or bad motherboard    shorting through the case     the washers wont fix that     or youll need em on top and bottom on the mounts and screw heads12:18
dannyMarcN, yep12:18
MarcNMiles: I'd blame those random mysql debs that the installer provided you.12:18
keyhackHas anyone attempted to change Ubuntu to use bootsplash instead of usplash?12:18
thegladiatorhow do i gnomefreak  ?12:18
oskudeOH MAN, IM SO BLIND, i think that "copy audio cd" was in gnomebaker allread, dof :)12:18
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oskudedof = doh12:18
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MarcNdanny: does it show up when you do       dpkg -L mysql-client-4.1  ?   should be in /usr/bin/12:19
oskudebut OH, seems it can only "direct copy"...12:19
thegladiatorgnomefreak, in.archive.ubuntu.com i guess it my setting according to the country i belong to .12:19
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fraggstaI'm curious though, WOULD making an image of an audio CD with dd and then burning it work?  I think you need to pass an argument to cdrecord to tell it you're burning an audio CD but other than that I don't see why it wouldn't12:20
MilesMarcN: perhaps we're running farther than we have to, do you know where the phpmyadmin stores it's password values?  if it gathers them from mysql, where does mysql store them, so that I can confirm that i'm using the right password?12:20
hoslerpashaw: ok thanks. im gonna go experiment now.12:20
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gnomefreakthegladiator, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list once in there take in out and leave it withou a country code than save and than sudo apt-get update again12:20
maskdsephran: you can open zip files with the default archive manager that comes with ubuntu; file roller12:20
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gnomefreakthegladiator, you dont need the country code in there12:20
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sephranI want to make the zip maskd12:20
gnomefreakthegladiator, the us repos are down alot so i took us out12:21
sephranand have windows be able to open it12:21
calamarifraggsta: does dd give you the full raw sectors?12:21
MarcNMiles: phpmyadmin takes the username/password you provide and uses it to connect to mysql.  The mysql server decides if those will let you in.12:21
maskdsephran: ah.12:21
marianohi12:21
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gnomefreakthegladiator, also while your in there let me know what the very first repo is12:21
maskdyeah you can create zips with archive manager12:21
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MarcNMiles: try using localhost for hostname, root for username and blank for password.12:21
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maskdsephran: you can create zips with archive manager12:21
MilesMarcN: okee, tryin12:21
gnomefreakthegladiator, is the very first one a cdrom repo?12:21
thegladiatorgnomefreak, just a sec...geting into the folder12:22
gnomefreakk12:22
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fraggstaIs there any PowerPC package equivalent to win32codecs, or is my dream of playing divxs doomed?12:22
maskdfraggsta: ewww divx12:22
vb_coderi have windows xp installed on a 120 gb harddrive taking up all of the space with another ntfs partition that has my backed up files saved to it. when the ubuntu partitioner came up from the install cd, it has a little lighting bolt indicating that the partition with the backed up files is the bootable partition. is this correct?12:22
oskudefraggsta: pwerpc is doomed :) scr12:22
mjrfraggsta, you should be able to play them using gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg along with totem12:22
oskude*scrn12:23
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dannyMarcN, it says it not installed12:23
thegladiatorhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/634612:23
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thegladiatorgnomefreak, ^12:23
gnomefreaki saw ty12:23
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MarcNdanny:  So it isn't installed.  try    apt-cache search ^mysql-client12:23
gnomefreakthegladiator,  put a # infront of that very first repo12:24
vb_codercan someone please help me install ubuntu with xp? i have been trying for days with no success12:24
MarcNdanny: and then install the version it tells you.  mysql-client-4.1 in my case (on dapper).  but apt-get install mysql-client should do the right thing.12:24
gnomefreakthegladiator, and take the # away from the rest of the repos12:24
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maskdis ATbot talking to anybody else?12:24
gnomefreakATbot,  how bout you dont pm me again and no i am not here to play games12:25
ATbotI am ATbot12:25
MilesMarcN: I've read abunch about mysql hashing passwords differently from version to version, could there be an incompability there?  root and blank don't work, and neither do any of the three combos i've used thruout the mahcine12:25
thegladiatorgnomefreak, could you tell me in number terms ?12:25
oskude!audiocd12:25
ubotuoskude: No idea12:25
oskude:)12:25
thegladiatori dont understand this repo thing actually12:25
guanacohow do I install and run Jabber?12:25
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fraggstaPPC is doomed, yes, but then I DID get a free ibook :)12:25
erUSULvb_coder, what is the problem? it should be pretty strightforward12:25
thegladiatorlike the first line ?12:25
gnomefreakthegladiator, put a # in line 00112:25
gnomefreakbefore the deb12:25
thegladiatordeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted12:25
erUSULguanaco, a jabber server? or client?12:25
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oskude!copy audio cd12:26
ubotuoskude: Are you smoking crack?12:26
guanacoa server12:26
oskudeDOH12:26
gnomefreakthegladiator,  give me a min i will fix and paste what it should look like ok?12:26
dannyMarcN, it come up wiv, mysql-client - mysql database client binaries and mysql-client-4.1 - mysql database client binaries12:26
navaronevb_coder, are both your windows partitions ntfs?12:26
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Epixparted is running, system appears to be frozen!12:26
thegladiatorok thank you . that wud be perfect12:26
nickrud!tell thegladiator about components12:26
MarcNMiles: it really should be the username/password that you put in the sugar CRM configuration file.   What version did the installer provide?  3.23 or 5.0.x?  that could be a problem with a 4.1.x based clients.12:26
MarcNdanny: yes, install that12:27
Milesis there a situation where phpmyadmin would be unable to communicate with mysql?12:27
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thegladiatornickrud, yes ?12:27
JochenHi ubuntu guys12:27
thegladiatorwhat was that about ?12:27
JochenCan somebody tell me how to install a debian package file?12:27
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vb_codererUSUL: here is my setup. i have 2 ntfs partitions taking up the entire 120gb hdd. i want to resize the partition with windows installed. when the ubuntu partitioning tool came up, it said the partition without xp installed is the bootable partition by showing a little lightening bolt next to it. im not sure if this is correct because i thought the ntfs partition with windows installed should be the bootable partition.12:27
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naliothJochen: what program are you wanting?12:27
gnomefreakthegladiator,  here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/634712:27
oskudeJochen: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb12:27
Jochenopera12:27
dannyMarcN, wot mysql-client-4.1?12:27
Jochenthank you12:27
nickrudthegladiator, sorry, you asked for info about what repos were12:27
MarcNMiles: could be that your php doesn't have mysql support.   Create an index.php in the web space and put in it  <?phpinfo()?>  and hit it via the web.  should see something about mysql support12:28
EpixOk, im running parted in live. HD light is off, cursor wont move, screen says something like shrinking 1%12:28
fraggstaoskude, oh curse you and your quick typing..I hate this damn keyboard12:28
MarcNdanny: yes.   sudo apt-get install mysql-client-4.112:28
EpixShould i be worried?12:28
thegladiatoroh thanks nickrud12:28
oskudeJochen: but i dont advice you to use NOT ubuntu packages12:28
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gnomefreakthegladiator,  that should fix you up :)12:29
ScislaCsearched ubuntuforums with no success... on Hoary, I could use Ctrl+Alt+F7 and Ctrl+Alt+F8 to switch between two users. I can't seem to do this in Breezy... Anyone have any tips?12:29
erUSULvb_coder, i guess thar XP uses ntldr in the mbr to boot itself and do not rely on the bootable partition12:29
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keyhackAfter I have my machine installed and configured the way I want, what is the best way to snap an image of it, such that I can make a CD where I put it in the drive, and I can flash the HD?12:29
oskudei just started gnomabaker with "cd audio copy" with source and target with the same source, i hope it makes some caches (its copying something..l.)12:29
erUSULvb_coder, once you have grub in the mbr the bootable part does not matter12:29
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Epixanyone?12:29
thegladiatorgnomefreak, hopefully :) i did that and saved12:30
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thegladiatorshud i do the update now ?12:30
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dannyMarcN, right it installed it12:30
gnomefreakrun sudo apt-get update  you will soon find out :)12:30
vb_codererUSUL, will i need to change which ntfs partition is bootable? maybe the little lightening bolt is there for grub?12:30
MarcNdanny: now try   $ mysql12:30
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polpakEpix, dunno12:31
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polpakEpix, if the HD light isn't on it might be ok12:31
arawhat is a .tar.hz file, ? how do i make i run???12:31
thegladiatorgnomefreak, that actually includes many more repos aint it ?12:31
dannyMarcN, it says command not found12:31
aragz12:31
gnomefreakara, its a source file and you compile it not run it12:31
naliothara: a tar and a gzip file are archive files12:31
MarcNdanny: Try /usr/bin/mysql12:31
macdara: untar it,12:31
Travishow can I make my own ubuntu distro? I want to basically take ubuntu install some software etc.12:31
erUSULvb_coder, i do not think so. grub installs in the mbr of the disk not in the bootable partition (it needs some files in /boo/grub/ also)12:31
gnomefreakthegladiator, you had all the source repos not working12:31
vb_codererUSUL okay i will take your advice i just want to be sure before i try this again12:31
kemikgnomefreak:  no, they're not sourcefiles.. coudl be anything inside a tar.gz archive12:32
polpakara, or open it in the archive viewer12:32
gnomefreakkemik, good point12:32
macdara: from terminal  tar zxvf yourfile.tar.gz or but using Ark.12:32
dannyMarcN, says no such file or directory12:32
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macds/but/buy12:32
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thegladiatorgnomefreak, problem at my end ? or was it faulty servers that i had assigned ?12:32
naliothTravis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo12:32
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gnomefreakthegladiator, what happened?12:32
Travisthanks12:32
navaronevb_coder, you can also install grub on floppy...when asked to install in mbr click no and it gives option for floopy12:32
gnomefreakthegladiator, is it fixed?12:32
fraggstaI still don't know why the Ubuntu installer offered to make me a boot floppy..this ibook has no floppy drive :S12:33
MarcNdanny: are you sure you installed mysql-client?   dpkg --list|grep mysql-client  should show ii in the first two columns12:33
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thegladiatori cant say if it is fixed or not now because , as i asaid before , the synaptic doesnt respond after reboot12:33
navaronefraggsta, just being polite probably...lol12:33
thegladiatorafter apt update it works12:33
dannyMarcN, no thts wrong it says ERROR 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server though socket.......12:33
gnomefreakthegladiator, you run sudo apt-get update?12:33
erUSULvb_coder, disclaimer: playing with disks is always a bit risky i can not make any waranties...12:33
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MilesMarcN: christ.  the htdocs folder in apache is locked, and I can't freaking write to it.  what is the move command in ubuntu under the command line so I can sudo it12:33
thegladiatorgn0me, yeah did it12:34
gnomefreakthegladiator, any errors?12:34
Milesfrasshafrackin...12:34
thegladiatorgnomefreak, no errors12:34
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MarcNdanny: could be that mysqld wasn't started.   sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start12:34
dannyMarcN, socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'12:34
gnomefreakthegladiator, it was looking for a cdrom the way you had them set12:34
thegladiatorgnomefreak, oh i see12:34
gnomefreakthegladiator, now it will be going to the servers and getting the packages12:34
thegladiatorgnomefreak, got it now :) thank toy for ur help12:34
gnomefreakthegladiator, thats why im here :)12:35
gnomefreakok now lets try mine brb12:35
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thegladiatoryes! :) go ahead12:35
JochenThank you people12:35
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MarcNMiles:     sudo gedit /var/www/apache2-default/test.php   or maybe it is just /var/www/   the move command as root is    sudo mv file.php /var/www/12:35
oskudeoh mann, gnomebaker "copy audio cd" doesnt seem to work with with one drive...12:35
demensone phat "yo" @ everyone12:35
Jochen<oskude>: It was a package specially for ubuntu maintained from opera12:35
GanjhiI've been able to navigate to the desktop in Root Terminal, which is where I saved the Enemy Territory install file, but I've been trying to figure out how to run the file in Root Terminal for about 30 minutes :|12:35
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vb_codererUSUL, i forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the xp install has just been installed and no files or programs were added to it12:36
polpakGanjhi, ./filename12:36
dannyMarcN, i put that and then put /usr/bin/mysql again and came up wiv same error12:36
navaroneoskude> you should be able to...it should ripp an image first and then prompt you to replace cd in drive with blank cd-r...<?>12:36
demensanybody knows about fluxboxchannel in german12:36
demens?12:36
JochenOpera breezy badger browser package available to download as debian format12:36
polpakGanjhi, if it says permission denied you may need to chmod +x the file first12:36
Jochenand very fast the browser12:36
MarcNdanny: is mysqld running?  Try    ps auwx|grep mysql12:36
Jochenunbelievable12:36
JochenWell thank you guys.12:36
Jochenbye!12:36
Milesphp 4.4.012:36
Epix_god damn. parted crashed my system during a resize12:36
naliothdemens: velicht #ubuntu-de ?12:36
GanjhiThat's what I though, I tried both of those, but for some reason it says the file does not exist12:37
polpakGanjhi, then you're not in the correct directory12:37
Milestry www.vtsugar.com/supernerf.php12:37
polpakGanjhi, ls should list the file12:37
oskudehmm,k3b works the tracks way more faster than gnomebaker...12:37
fmusis there any way to auto mount a usb thumb drive on a headless breezy machine?12:37
navaroneoskude then use whatever works best12:37
dannyMarcN, nothing came up not even command not found12:37
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polpakfmus, I think breezy will auto mount it12:38
oskudenavarone: yeah, but i wanted to use gnome stuff :(12:38
macddanny: ps az | grep postmaster12:38
macdaz = ax12:38
fmuspolpak: it does, but only if you're logged in to gnome.12:38
polpakfmus, just plug it in and cd /media12:38
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navaroneoskude> then the extra time working the tracks can be spent admiring your gnome desktop...<s>12:39
polpakfmus, I think the auto mount daemon is independant of the X server12:39
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MarcNdanny: then it doesn't seem that mysql server is running.  check to see if there is an err file in /var/log/mysql/*12:39
GanjhiGreat, it's working!12:39
oskudenavarone: lol :)12:39
fmuspolpak: oh. well, if that's the case, it isn't working. when I log in to gnome (via xnest), it works, though.12:39
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fraggstamy mouse cursor is black..how do I make it white?  The twist is...I'm using XFCE!12:39
vb_coderi forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the windows install had just been installed without any other programs installed. ubuntus documentation does not say to defrag before resizing the windows partition. will this corrupt windows?12:39
macdhaha@ fraggsta12:40
macdit might dissappear!12:40
navaronevb-I would defrag first12:40
erUSULvb_coder, no i do not think so12:40
polpakfmus, I could be wrong12:40
polpakfmus, lemme see if I can find anything12:40
MarcNdanny: did you start mysql as root?    sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start12:40
navaronevb_coder,  but mileage varies12:40
bobesponjahey all12:40
bobesponjado you know how I can get my usb mouse to work again? I unplugged it and replugged it and now it's blocked12:40
dannyMarcN, it says /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.001: permission denied12:40
Epix_Parted fucked my computer over. can it be fixed? Error: mount: mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: Input/Ouytput error. a few of those for digfferent places then: Target FS doesnt hve /sbin/init!12:40
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fraggstamacd, trying GNOME was no joke on this machine, since it only has 64 MB of RAM :)12:40
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purpleheart_USMCvb_coder: it worked okay for me12:40
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dannyMarcN, yea i was already logged into root su -12:40
MarcNdanny: yes, you need to be root.   sudo -s then cd /var/log/mysql/   then ls *.err12:41
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polpakEpix, do you have a backup?12:41
macdfraggsta: yeah, thats not quite enough, I like fluxbox ::)12:41
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macdor blackbox12:41
vb_coderpurpleheart_USMC, are you saying that ubuntu installed with xp without defragging or corrupting windows?12:41
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naliothdanny: use sudo12:41
purpleheart_USMCvb_coder: yes12:41
oskudeoh man, am so sad, k3b rules over gnomebaker when copying and audiocd witn only one cd writer :(12:41
fraggstamacd, maybe, but fluxbox relies a lot on right-clicking, which is going to get annoying on an ibook where right-click = F12..12:41
MarcNdanny: you can also check /var/log/daemon.log for any mention of why mysql didn't startup12:41
maskdoskude: Sound Juicer is a very nice program12:42
Epix_SAVE ME!12:42
MarcNdanny: sudo grep mysql /var/log/daemon.log12:42
erUSULEpix, maybe after using parted the numbering of your partitions changed and you need to update menu.lst and fstab12:42
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macdyou can change fluxboxs default behavior12:42
pashawEpix,  you resized   or     added/deleted a partition12:42
oskudeit seems gnome looses in audio cd copy with one cd writer, doh... :(12:42
lampshadeI have vncserver installed already, but when I vnc over to the machine, there is nothing there(fluxbox doesn't appear to be started)  what do I need to do?  I'm not exactly sure12:43
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dannyMarcN, quite a bit came from that12:43
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dannyMarcN, wot am i ment to be lookin for in that12:44
polpakfmus, check this out. It might help: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html12:44
MarcNdanny: should give you a clue.  What is the last mysql line talking about?  look for anything like an error.12:44
melodieEpix_, I propose a direct chat to you, to try helping12:44
vb_coderso many people are downloading jdk 1.5 (java development kit), the download is unavailable12:44
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fraggstamaybe they found out about JDoom?12:45
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vb_coderis gij used the same way to launch java programs from the command line?12:45
polpakfmus, or this http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/12:45
fraggstaor that Java port of Quake 2, that thing was amazing12:45
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dannyMarcN, the last line says Dec 29 23:29:07 localhost mysqld_safe[22688]  ended12:46
dannyMarcN, it dont says erro such and such anywhere12:46
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MarcNdanny: and a little before that?12:46
oskudeoh man, im so dissappointed abiut gnomebaker :(12:46
HymnToLifeoskude > get k3b :)12:47
oskudeHymnToLife: yeah, but i love gnome :)12:47
HymnToLifeoskude > you can run KDE apps in gnome12:48
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oskudebut ist seem copying from audio cd to audio cd with one cd burner is not what gnoem wants...12:48
HymnToLifeit wil just take a little more time to download all the KDE libs, but it's worth it12:48
oskudeHymnToLife: of course, but is till prefer gnome apps...12:48
MilesMarcN: Thanks for the help, i've got other items to attend to, perhaps see you back here soon.12:49
maskdoskude: you can rip the songs with Sound Juicer then burn the audio cd with Serpetine12:49
BxLif gnome doesn't want it, it's not worth it.12:49
MilesDanke!12:49
MalachiDoes anyone know if there is a virtual printer that will allow you to print to a PDF?12:49
HymnToLifeoskude > I prefer the ones who work best ;)12:49
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dannyMarcN, Dec 29 23:29:07 locvalhost mysqld[14221] : 051229 23:29:07 /usr/sbin/mysqld: shutdown complete12:49
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oskudemaskd: well, i wanted a "one-click" solution in gnome (like k3b)...12:50
oskudea = an12:50
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spoohi all. can anyone help. newbie to unbuntu here and i'm having some difficulty running dvd's anyone have any ideas please?12:50
MarcNdanny: and before that?  It is saying it shutdown.  you want to figure out why it is shutting down when  you tell it to start the daemon.12:50
maskdoskude: it's still all gnome apps ;)12:50
dannyMarcN, spz bout this but im new to the whole linux12:51
oskudemaskd: hmm, and why its not implemented in gnomebaker ?12:51
maskdoskude: no idea mate12:51
maskdoskude: i never use audio cd's myself sorry, one you get an mp3 player you dont look back12:51
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gnomefreakthis cant be a good sign :(12:51
oskudemaskd: you mean sound juicer and serpentine are gnome apps ?12:51
|GaiJin|Is there a im client that lets you chat with msn, with webcam??12:52
maskdoskude: yep12:52
MarcNdanny: from one window do;       sudo tail -f /var/log/daemon.log   and from another  do;       sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start     you should see what is happending in the tail window.12:52
oskudemaskd: i allso never used ausio cds, my GF just wanted to fast copy an audio cd..12:52
navaroneoskude do you have two burners?12:52
oskudenavarone: nope12:52
pashawMalachi,   google  print pdf linux   there are lots of guides12:52
gnomefreakmy applications menu is crashing grrrrrrrrrrr12:52
maskdoskude: sound juicer rips to ogg, serpentine burns the ogg's12:52
oskudemaskd: lol12:52
Malachipashaw: You mean print a website to a pdf?12:52
maskdoskude: you wouldnt happen to also have an xp machine with nero?12:52
maskdi always found that burning works better on windows12:53
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oskudehow about gnomebaker just making a cache file and burning with the same drive,, nope...12:53
oskudemaskd: i dont have any windoze anyomre12:53
navaroneoskude...gnomebaker has one click to copy audio cd...is the problem simply the speed?12:53
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pashawMalachi,   your print job  becomes a pdf12:53
MalachiOkay.12:53
Malachipashaw: So google print pdf linux. I'll try...thanks12:53
oskudenavarone: the problem with gnomebaker is that idont have to cdrom drives12:53
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Ngyou could print to a postscript file and install ps2pdf12:54
xiaogilhow to cat the syslog ?12:54
lampshadehow do I create default xsessions so that when I vnc into a machine it has fluxbox loaded?12:54
navaroneoskude...doesn't gnome first rip an image of tracks and thenh prompt for blank cd-r?12:54
Ngxiaogil: "tail -100 /var/log/syslog" will show you the last 100 lines12:54
spoozyHas anyone had problems running DVD's?12:54
oskudenavarone: gnomebaker did read my audio cd, but spit errors when trying to burn on the same cd that i read, lol (didnt ask for an empty cd in the same drive)12:55
Dr_Willisspoozy,  you mean playing comercial dvd's ?12:55
navaronehmm12:55
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spoozyyes, don't have sound or playback :(12:55
vb_coderwhy did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)12:56
dannyMarcN, in 1 terminal i put the satrt bit and it jsut went bk to danny@blah:~$12:56
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MarcNdanny: put the mysql related stuff in pastebin12:56
Evil_Whisperwhats the key sequence for xkill?12:56
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oskudei love gnome, but when it comes to multimedia, it somehow sucks like bigtime...12:56
vb_coderwhy did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)12:56
dannyMarcN, how do i get oto paste bin i forgot12:56
maskdoskude: i can play anything i want multimedia wise ;)12:57
MarcNdanny: right.  the /etc/init.d/mysql start goes in the background.     You should see stuff in the tail window.  pastebin I forget too12:57
vb_coderIm going to edit the boot.ini file to have a dual boot with linux12:57
pashawEvil_Whisper,   you mean  ctrl+alt+ backspace  ?12:57
Dr_Willisspoozy,  you proberly got to install a few 'extra' things to get them to work.. check the wiki under the 'restricted formats' section I think is the details.12:57
oskudemaskd: yeah, i can play too, but can you make ?!12:57
danny!pastebin12:57
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:57
Evil_Whisperpashaw I mean the one that brings out the skull and crossbones allowing you to kill a single application12:57
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spoozyThanks Doc ;)12:58
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Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  i just use the 'run' dialog and type 'xkill'12:58
Evil_WhisperDr_Willis is there a way to set up a hotkey for that in gnome?12:58
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oskudenow i dont wonder why Linus said "use KDE" :)12:59
dannyMarcN, there is called dannymysql12:59
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markus-_-can i just click a run file to make it install?01:00
maskdEvil_Whisper: you can create a little launcher for xkill01:01
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  proberly is...01:01
MarcNdanny: that is a shutdown, now do a startup01:01
purpleheart_USMCwhat are pgp keysigns?01:01
Dr_WillisEvil_Whisper,  but its the kind of thing i use perhaps once a month. :P01:01
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oskudepgp = pretty good privacy01:01
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lampshadeAnyone know how to create a .xsession file for fluxbox?  I have fluxbox installed, but when I vnc over I get nothing but a blank screen and an error about not having my xsession file.01:01
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  run it from the shell.01:01
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ahmedhi all01:01
ahmedwhat01:01
navaroneEvil_Whisper, pressing alt-f2 will bring up dialog where you can type command for progs as well01:02
ahmedany one there01:02
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Evil_Whisperok01:02
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markus-_-how do i do that Dr_Willis ?01:02
Dr_Willislampshade,  edit the file with 1 line 'exec fluxbox'01:02
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markus-_-cd to the directory01:02
markus-_-then what01:02
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  type ./whatevertorun   :P01:02
dannyMarcN, how do i do tht sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?01:02
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Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  makes sence eh?01:02
pashawEvil_Whisper,    just make a custom hotkey with xkill as command      some people use ctlr+alt+x01:02
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madraykinWhat in ubuntu livecd I can't do that I can do in the installation CD?01:02
MarcNdanny: from the command line:             sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start01:02
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maskdlol im stupid, i was trying alt + f2, alt + f1, alt + f3, alt + f4...01:03
maskdwoops01:03
markus-_-so when you say shell is that the same as terminal?01:03
Evil_Whisperpashaw where do I go to do that?01:03
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naliothmarkus-_-: yes01:03
linzgaueddiehi01:03
odatwho know how to create a disk image from a copy protected cd???01:03
jvai_u cant raise the resolution on the live cd, for 101:03
markus-_-and when it prompts me where to install it..... what directory should i use if i want all users to play the game01:03
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naliothodat: you'll need to ask somewhere else01:04
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  what game?01:04
madraykinjvai_: thats so true, lol01:04
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  the terminal window runs a shell.01:04
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markus-_-wolfenstein enemy territory01:04
BxLyou can't upgrade the kernel on the liveCD, I tryed it, everything die.01:04
dannyMarcN, done tht now do i do sudo tail -f /var.............01:04
madraykinjavi: and I can't install stuff in the livecd huh01:04
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php01:04
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madraykinBxL: LOL01:04
MarcNdanny: you should have left the tail -f running.01:04
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  it asks you if you want to install it for all users or just the 1.01:04
odatnalioth, no hints?01:04
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markus-_-no it asks what directory01:05
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  you may need to do a 'sudo ./whteveritiscalled.run01:05
jvai_i mailed some1 a copy of hoary live, but i dont think she can use it to install01:05
naliothodat: we don't discuss breaking copy protection in here01:05
odatnalioth, k01:05
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  i just let it install to the defaults for my single user.. perhaps put it in /opt/games  if you want.01:05
ompauljvai_, send them to shipit and they can get breezy :-)01:05
markus-_-can i put it in /usr ?01:05
dannyMarcN, yep and nothing changed in the terminal, with tail.... put in it01:05
markus-_-or would that be bad?01:06
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naliothmarkus-_-: dont mess with your filesystm outside of /usr/local or /opt/01:06
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  You COULD.. you proberly DONT want to .. :P01:06
jvai_but they only have dial up.. that kill'd them ever using unbuntu01:06
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MarcNdanny: keep tail -f running and then do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start (again)01:06
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  since you got no reason to put it in /usr/ i say put it in /opt/whatever01:06
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markus-_-k01:06
jvai_the beauty of broadband01:07
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Dr_WillisOf course now a days finding a decent RTCW:ET server is the problem :P01:07
franky123i'm having a problem getting wine to recognize /media/cdrom0 is my cdrom drive even though i changed the wine config file . help?01:07
dannyMarcN, thts wot i did but nothing happened, idid the same again and still nothing happened01:08
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madraykinok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?01:08
ilba7rhow can i list the program instances that i created in a terminal using the & ie running in the terminal background?01:08
gnomefreakgnome menu is controled by metacity?01:08
oskuderesize = evil01:08
nandrocan anyone tell me how to have a bit torrent client save a flie to a newtwork drive?  All I see are options for the local drive even though a w2k server folder is mapped01:08
MarcNdanny: nothing in daemon.log?    Try     sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/mysql start     it will dump to the terminal all the shell script steps it takes.01:08
fraggstailba7r, "jobs"01:08
ilba7rfraggsta thanx will try it01:09
jvai_she lives in pine bluff, ala. there may not be any wifi sigs to steal there, & she's doin dial up.. i feel pity for her, she cant use ubuntu01:09
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navaroneoskude...you're drunk though remmebr...? <s>01:09
Viper550Hello! I'm also in Ubuntu-Meeting01:09
Dr_Willisilba7r,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php       has a section on job controll01:09
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ilba7rthanx fraggsta but how to display also the process id01:09
MarcNViper550: what is the purpose of ubuntu-meeting?01:09
ilba7rthanx Dr_willis will read the link01:09
Dr_Willisit details the fundamental com,mands you are asking about :P01:09
Dr_Willisilba7r,  'ps' shows the  pid's :P01:10
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Viper550Is this an Ubuntu Development channel? Also, an art team meeting is in there right now01:10
oskudenavarone: yeah, im way over to the dark side, so pleas ignore my comments :)01:10
madraykinok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?01:10
franky123dont trust resizing utilities01:10
ilba7rthanx again Dr_willis no off to reading the link :)01:10
SlipAway172When i try to browse my network from a windows machine and i try to look at my ubuntu machine it will always prompt me for a name and password. i tryed my account and the root. why does it ask me for this?01:10
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navaroneoskude...I am your father...<asthmatic breathing>01:10
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gnomefreakViper550:  i cant find dapper art :(01:10
gnomefreaklol01:11
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franky123madraykin: i would recommend backing up your files and reinstalling windows .. resizing isn't reliable and you'll want to back up your files before that anyways01:11
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Dr_WillisSlipAway172,  you Must make a 'samba' password for the users who hiome dirs you want to share.01:11
SlipAway172Oooh01:11
madraykinHmm01:11
Dr_WillisSlipAway172,  sudo  smbpasswd -a username01:11
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oskudenavarone: nice try :)01:11
madraykinI'll try out LiveCD for now01:11
dannyMarcN, K it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 001:11
Viper550#ubuntu-meeting01:11
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jvai_hey, if sum1's usin WIN me, can they load the live cd (hoary) into the optic drive, then open the apps within to use them?01:11
madraykinuntil I get da groove01:11
Dr_WillisSlipAway172,  you may have to restart samba services also.. i forget...01:11
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fraggstaI've no idea why, but fluxbox just took longer than XFCE to start..01:12
oskudenavarone: i know how to use the "bright side" :)01:12
SlipAway172ok i will write that down and use that on my other machine. im on windows now for a laptop becuase ubuntu will not work on it :(01:12
Kindredmadraykin,  I resized my windows partition fine with the install, you can certainly do it... backup of course though.01:12
franky123fluxbox is actually not too bad of a window manager :)01:12
navaronefranky123, how does reinstalling windows help resize his drive?01:12
SlipAway172Dr_Willis thankyou01:12
KyralFluxbox > You01:12
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nandroanyone?  is there a way to have linux see a mounted smb folder as a regular folder?01:12
fraggstaquestion is, why did it take ages to start - it seemed to do nothing for about 15 seconds before loading01:13
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Dr_Willisnandro,  in what way is it 'different' ?01:13
franky123navarone: reinstall and then repartition?01:13
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hengwhich package name refer to the j2sdk1.4 in apt-get way ? apt-get install j2sdk seems didnt work, hehe01:13
nandrowhen I try to download a torrent it will give me the option to save to any local folder01:13
nandroeven though the server shares are mounted and showing01:13
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franky123heng: are you trying to install the sun java sdk for like eclipse ?01:14
mannyanyone know what the default su password is01:14
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dannyMarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 001:14
nandrobasicly I have a linux box with a 2.5G HD01:14
SlipAway172is none for su01:14
SlipAway172try YOUR password01:14
nandroand need to save to the network01:14
Dr_Willismanny,  you just asked Faq #1 :P01:14
Dr_Willismanny,  use 'sudo' not 'su'01:14
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hengfranky123: thanks for the reply, nope, just want to do it in the apt-get way as those in rpm , hehe01:15
ompaul!tell manny about sudo01:15
SlipAway172sudo is temporary , su is to login as root01:15
WorstPhobiapashaw: When using ps2pdf, the PDF doesn't view correctly in evince.01:15
ompaulmanny, please look at the message from the bot ubotu01:15
navaronefranky123, if he going to backup his files he may as well try resizing first and then reinstall windows if needed...defragging windows before resize would be good idea though01:15
SlipAway172(my understanding)01:15
WorstPhobiapashaw: Any idea why?01:15
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Dr_WillisSlipAway172,  not always :P01:15
mannyok01:15
dannyMarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 001:15
ompaulSlipAway172, stop - read the same documention - excuse me for wearing jackboots and trampling on your parade01:15
dannyMarcN, u still about?01:16
hengfranky123: any idea ? please help, hehe01:16
SlipAway172lol01:16
ompaul!tell SlipAway172 about sudo01:16
ilba7rheng follow ubotu link01:16
SlipAway172oh no01:16
ilba7r!java01:16
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:16
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hengthanks, trying..01:16
spoozyThanks Dr_Willis. Had all the right files just needed to change the setting on hdparm. Cheers.01:16
dannyMarcN, u still therecan anyone lse confirm they can see this01:17
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dannyMarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 001:17
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dannyanyone else see this01:18
Dr_Willisdanny,  see what?01:18
dannythts ok01:19
dannysomeone was helpin me out01:19
jvai_##01:19
dannyi didnt no if they were gettin the messages on here01:19
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hengthanks, all, I tried apt-get install j2re1.4  and go this error : Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. I have already enabled all the repositories in resouces.list file, anything else I can do ?01:20
xenex!uset autoinvite 101:20
ubotuxenex: Not a clue01:20
ilba7rheng which java are you trying to install01:21
dannyMarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 001:21
ilba7rsun or blackdown01:21
ilba7r!javadeb01:21
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy01:21
hengilbr7r: sun's latested 1.4 series01:21
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ilba7rheng look ar ubotu link01:22
hengubotu: thanks, multiverse has been enabled in sources.list.01:22
ubotuheng: bitte01:22
wzaanyone know how to access another subnet?01:22
hengilba7r: thanks, I will try that link from ubotu01:23
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oskude!java evil01:23
ubotuoskude: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:23
hengoops, it has j2sdk 1.5 on that link but I need j2sdk 1.4.10, :-)01:24
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Seveasheng, mirror.ubuntulinux.nl01:24
hengthanks, add mirror.ubuntulinux.nl into sources.list ?01:24
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Seveassurf to the page, click java, click the version you want01:25
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hengthanks,doing so01:25
oskudehmm, where so people _REALLY_ need java ?01:25
oskudesi = do01:25
oskudedoh, so = do01:26
Seveasdo re mi fa so la ti :p01:26
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noruasHiddenFly, everybody..............;01:26
noruasoups01:26
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noruasHello01:26
Seveasnoruas, don't over-use <tab> :)01:26
noruaslol01:27
dannyMarcN, u still around01:27
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silverpowerI'm currently running the ppc install CD, and the install process keeps stopping at 'Partition Disks01:28
silverpowerWhat can I do?01:28
noruasI'm a noob in Ubuntu and in IRC :-p01:28
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naliothsilverpower: verify your installation media01:30
naliothubotu: tell silverpower about verify01:30
danny!help01:30
ThelHi all, I've got an aggravating sound problem: no sound ever plays on my Ubuntu machine. Closer inspection reveals a complete lack of /dev/dsp ... how can I rectify that issue?01:30
interfearmine keeps saying error reading data from cdrom01:30
interfearand halts mid install01:30
ThelI have a SoundBlaster in the machine, and I have installed alsa01:30
interfearand ive burned 2 cds already01:30
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mwe!sound01:30
ubotuit has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:30
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sambagirlchao01:31
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sambagirli have an external protocal request dialog box and i have cancelled it 100 times but it still is there, how do i remove it?01:31
mweThel: try the links ubotu suggested01:31
dannyseveas, im pretty much new to linux have u got any links to things i can learn things from?01:31
ThelChecking these out right now, thanks01:31
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Seveasdanny, apt-get install rutebook01:32
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PeteyPablosup skon01:32
skonHello01:32
navaroneSeveas rutel or rule?01:32
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Seveasrutebook - Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book01:32
dannyThanks01:33
silverpowernalioth: it's checking, it'll take a while, my Pismo isn't the fastest thing out there. :D01:33
skonOn a live CD now...trying to resize partitions. I want to shrink my ntfs and grow my ext2. I can shrink the ntfs (which is the first partition) but how do I grow my ext2 into the free space?01:33
navaroneis rute just "leet" for root?01:33
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naliothsilverpower: check both the iso image and the burnt cd01:33
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xiaogileven after purging mysql, it still doesn't after reinstalling, what can i do then to make it work ?01:34
silverpowernalioth: yep, the CD is corrupt. :(01:34
naliothsilverpower: burn the next one as slowly as your machine will burn01:34
interfearis there a way to do an internet install?01:34
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dannySeveas, its done now how do i get to it01:34
Seveasdanny, go to /usr/share/doc/rutebook01:35
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skonAnyone know how to grow ext3 from free space before it??01:36
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silverpowernalioth: It's burning at 8x now, and I don't see any buffer underruns. (Should've known better than to run the burner at max speed on this ancient box of mine. :facepalm:)01:37
ScislaCdoes fast user switching (specifically ctrl+alt+f8) work for anyone using Breezy?01:37
ScislaCit worked fine in Hoary, now it basically goes to terminal output from bootup, instead of switching back to the appropriate user01:38
naliothsilverpower: over the past year+ i've seen that the slower the burn, the better chance of quality you have01:38
ompaulScislaC, 8 should be the output of dmesg iirc01:38
paalhow do I change my keyboardlayout in terminal?01:38
PeteyPablonalioth, especially for video, 4x is fastest you should go01:38
mwectrl+alt+f8 gives me a black screen01:39
ScislaCompaul: ahhh, that's what it is then... it worked in hoary though which is kinda weird01:39
naliothsilverpower: see PeteyPablo's statement01:39
kurrospoot poot01:39
PeteyPablonalioth, for music i don't think it really matters? or atleast i have never noticed a difference01:39
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naliothPeteyPablo: i'm not in this channel to discuss burning music or video, just the *buntu iso images01:40
navaronesilverpower, I try not to burn data at anything over 8x...I have made my share of coasters01:40
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G2CHello All01:40
PeteyPablonalioth, when i burned mine it was at 40x and it worked fine to install on two pc's01:40
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skonCan someone help me expand an ext3 partition to fill free space _before_ it?01:40
dannySeveas, thanks got to it01:40
silverpoweryeah, especially since I'm forking out $1.50 or so per coaster. (don't ask.)01:41
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G2CAnyone help me out here with ubuntu?01:41
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steveO_Officewhats up?01:41
navaroneSeveas I dl'ed rutebook pdf...it should keep me awake at night...lol01:41
steveO_OfficeG2C, whats up?01:41
naliothPeteyPablo: different cd burners work differently, it always works at 2x01:41
G2CsteveO_Office , well , how easy is it to install?01:42
steveO_Officein grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?01:42
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steveO_OfficeG2C, what are you installing it on?01:42
steveO_OfficeG2C, for the most part its a walk in the park01:43
Snake__Hey guys, quick security question, is there anyway to view traffic going through my network without modifying my routers software??01:43
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skonSnake__: etherape, ethereal01:43
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HotwheelzIve got a real quick question about the Ubuntu live CD that came in the mail today....it wont load the live cd, it goes straight into the install, which I dont want.01:43
naliothSnake__: your box will need to be in line with the network packets01:43
paalcan anyone help me out?01:43
Snake__skon: neither will show me all the network traffic, just between mine01:43
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HotwheelzIt says hit enter to load live cd, which I do. Am I missing something?01:43
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G2CsteveO_Office - its a AMD Athlon 1.53 ghz 256 RAM01:44
skonHotwheelz: if you put in the live cd, it needs to setup first, follow the instructions01:44
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steveO_Officevideo card?01:44
Snake__nalioth: So my box needs to be the router?01:44
vb_coderive reinstalled xp and linux about 20 times now trying to get a dual boot to work and i still get an error when booting xp saying hal.dll error it is corrupted or missing01:44
G2CsteveO_Office yes01:44
naliothSnake__: we've discussed this before, iirc01:44
skonSnake__: etherape shows you the traffice from other computers on the network too01:44
PeteyPablovb_coder, tried to repair the xp install?01:44
Snake__nalioth: Yes I know, but there has to be a way01:44
steveO_OfficeG2C, what video card?01:44
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naliothSnake__: buy another NIC and make your box the router01:45
G2Cfuck, how do i find out - its a seperate comp bside me01:45
Snake__nalioth: I didnt want to deal with all that lol01:45
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naliothG2C: please respect us with your language choices01:45
steveO_Officeg2c what os are you running at this time?01:45
G2CWell this is Xp the one infront is OS'less01:46
silverpowerSnake__: If you have a Linksys router, some 3rd-party firmwares should have the functionality you need.01:46
skonSnake__: etherape does the job for me, dunno what more you need out of it01:46
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Snake__ill try etherape01:46
G2CsteveO_Office, are the system specs ok ?01:46
scenestarhello01:46
hengSeveas: thanks, it did work fine ( java apt-get ) though when doing apt-get update I got pgp auth failure error, hehe01:46
scenestarhow can i get the righclick launch terminal thing back01:46
scenestarlike in 5.0401:47
steveO_Officeok then just go for it it should be fine you can goole ubuntu starter guide for more help after that01:47
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G2Cscenestar - go back to HTS01:47
scenestari cant find it anyways on the forums01:47
scenestarwtf01:47
naliothscenestar: nautilus-terminal-here   is in the repos01:47
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scenestarthank you01:47
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scenestarg2c hts are the suxx01:47
naliothscenestar: mayby open-terminal-here (i can't remember)01:47
scenestari kick banned all the total idiots01:47
G2Cscenestar you are always on it01:47
silverpowerOkay, CD burned sucessfully, I'm booting it now.01:47
GNAMon my utilities-multiverse there's only 'f-prot-installer'01:48
GNAMwhere's done RAR?01:48
Shadymanscenestar: But i'm still here?01:48
Shadymanlol jk01:48
crimsunGNAM: unrar-nonfree?01:48
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GNAMno01:48
GNAMrar-nonfree01:48
scenestarwait01:48
scenestaryou guys are htssers too right01:48
crimsun!info rar01:48
uboturar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB01:49
naliothguerby: unrar-nonfree01:49
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naliothGNAM: unrar-nonfree01:49
Dr_WillisI cheat and use wine and winrar :P01:49
GNAMauauau01:49
cafuego./me hasn't been near any hts for a decade and a half01:49
GNAMunrar-nonfree?01:49
crimsunGNAM: I just pointed you to rar, if that's what you're asking after01:49
GNAMuhm01:50
skonDrWillis: you know they make winrar for linux?01:50
steveO_Office? in grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?01:50
Dr_Willisskon,  never noticed it when i redownloaded winrar today.01:50
GNAMwhere can I find your suggested sources.list?01:50
crimsunread-only, suppress kernel ring buffer spew01:50
Shadyman!sources01:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:50
naliothubotu: tell GNAM about repos01:50
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GNAMi've enabled multiverse01:51
GNAMand universe01:51
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Snake__skon: no sutible interface was found01:51
GNAMbut no rar01:51
skonDrWillis: http://www.rarlabs.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz01:51
scenestar oi nalioth01:51
vb_coderPeteyPablo, yes i am going to try again01:51
Snake__thats what etherape tells me01:51
scenestarthanks a breeze01:51
skonSnake__: you have to run it as root01:51
naliothGNAM: it's 'unrar-nonfree'01:51
scenestarnow01:51
Snake__skon: oh ok01:51
scenestarlast annoing question01:51
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scenestarhow can i get rid of that pussy package manager01:51
silverpowerIs the installer going to complain if my ubuntu partition is at the end of the disk? (I'm on ppc, BTW, running a NewWorld G3.)01:51
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_jeffhey guys01:51
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scenestarand replace it with synaptic?01:51
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cafuegoscenestar: Mind your language.01:51
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Toma-scenestar: what package manager is that?01:51
dereks_alsa is failing to setup on boot, which log would info be in01:52
cafuegoToma-: 'cat' I imagine.01:52
crimsundereks_: none01:52
Toma-"apt-cache search pussy" returns nothing :)01:52
Seveascafuego, we currently have a zero-tolerance policy as you see :)01:52
dereks_crimsun: how can i debug the problem?01:52
_jeffdoes anybody else find that networking with windows machines has become more difficult in breezy?01:52
Snake__skon: it still only shows me my traffic01:52
crimsundereks_: give me more detailed debugging info01:52
cafuegoSeveas: Yeah, not a bad idea for what appears to be an extremely long weekend ;-)01:52
skonSomeone know how to get an ext3 partition to claim free space _before_ it ?01:52
naliothzero-tolerance especially if we know you know better01:52
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dereks_crimsun: all it said was failed, i want to know where to find more debugging info01:52
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crimsundereks_: you're talking to him.01:53
psusiskon, gparted?01:53
crimsundereks_: sound chipset?01:53
dereks_oh, hehe01:53
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igotowneddude01:53
dereks_its an audiology201:53
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skonSnake__: I run it when I bring my laptop to schoola nd I can see all the traffic that every computer in the school has01:53
Dr_Willisskon,  i dont see those haveing the winrar gui.01:53
_jeffcan anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers?01:53
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Snake__skon: Thats because you school uses a hub01:53
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Snake__skon: not a router ;)01:53
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skonSnake__: get a hub :-D01:53
crimsundereks_: do you mean 'audigy2'?01:53
Snake__Argh01:53
Snake__lol01:54
cafuegoSeveas: *!*@*.nl01:54
dereks_crimsun: yeah01:54
psusiskon, what makes you thikn you can see all the traffic?01:54
_jeffcan anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers??01:54
Dr_WillisI got an Autigy2zs01:54
skonpsusi: how to do it in gparted? all I can do is shrink the partitions01:54
crimsundereks_: cat /proc/asound/cards01:54
Seveascafuego, s/nl/au/01:54
Toma-:O01:54
Toma-not au :*(01:54
markus-_-hey Dr_Willis01:54
crimsun*!*@*  for great justice!01:54
psusiskon, you should be able to change the size or position, not just shrink, I believe01:54
Snake__Any other ideas guys?01:54
cafuegoSeveas: Feel free :-)01:54
Dr_Willis_jeff,  check out the 'samba' wiki01:54
skonpsusi: umm because I've tested it? it says the computer name and the connection01:54
dereks_crimsun: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102162 is the model01:54
Dr_Willishello markus-_-01:54
Snake__Outside from making my box the router01:54
dereks_crimsun: lemme try that01:54
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_jeffdr_willis: ok thanks01:54
markus-_-i tried sudo ./nameofrunfile.run01:55
silverpowerOkay, the partitioning is broken on ppc. How do I handle it manually? (I know how to use mac-fdisk and mke2fs, thanks, I just need to know what I need mounted and everything.)01:55
dereks_crimsun: 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  (rev.4, serial:0x20021102) at 0x2000, irq 19301:55
markus-_-and it told me command not found01:55
markus-_-i'm in the same directory01:55
Seveasmarkus-_-, chmod +x ./nameoffile01:55
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  you did chmod +x whatever.run first?01:55
crimsundereks_: looks fine to me. Now pastebin the output from ``amixer''01:55
markus-_-no01:55
psusiskon, what says this?01:55
dereks_crimsun: hold01:55
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GNAMwow official repo rulez, rar found01:55
skonpsusi: about which01:55
markus-_-ahhhh01:56
crimsunGNAM: ...I pasted that to you above.01:56
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markus-_-thats better01:56
GNAMyeah01:56
psusiskon, you said "it says"  what is "it"?  what are you using to view this traffic?01:56
markus-_-merci beaucoup01:56
Dr_Willismarkus-_-,  logical eh? :)01:56
skonpsusi: etherape and ethereal01:56
dereks_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/48361801:56
cafuegoSeveas: Mind you, by way of w2k-in-vmware-on-linux now.01:56
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markus-_-what does the chmod command do?01:56
Toma-cafuego: having 1 redundnt windows box on a server LAN can act as a honeypot :D01:56
psusiskon, most likely you are only seeing broadcast packets... it is very unlikely that you are connected to a hub instead of a switch01:56
jhennhow can i record the sound on my computer to a .wav file?01:56
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Seveasjhenn, audacity01:57
cafuegoToma-: That's what I use OpenBSD for. (More worthy challenge)01:57
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Toma-hehe01:57
jhennSeveas: not record from mic, record whats playing on gxine01:57
Seveascafuego, that's comparing a leaky raft to a nuclear sub :)01:57
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cafuegoOpenBSD in vmware too, all easy to repalce from the snapshot :-)01:57
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Rim7510anyone know where I'd look to to get 4 screens working?01:57
Toma-heh01:57
skonpsusi: that was Snake__ who said about the hub....01:57
markus-_-by the way Dr_Willis .... it chose usr/local/games as the directory01:57
crimsundereks_: I presume you're using regular speakers?01:58
SeveasRim7510, xorg.conf :)01:58
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dereks_yeah, the speakers work on my other comp01:58
psusiskon, yes... because you asked why you could see all the traffic... if you are on a switch isntead of a hub, you only get your traffic and broadcasts01:58
crimsundereks_: so try turning up 'Analog Mix'01:58
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Snake__skon: Dude this thing wont work with routers01:59
Snake__grrr01:59
cafuegocrud, missing an svg01:59
skonpsusi: right, I didn't know he was running a switch01:59
Snake__Is that any software that will!!01:59
SeveasSnake__, no01:59
skonSnake__: mine works with my router01:59
gtrplrI am trying to get ndiswrappers to work w/my bcom 64b driver (i also have the 32b drivers) but it says there is no hardware. Any help please ?01:59
Seveasunless it runs on the router01:59
Snake__Seveas: Man..that sucks01:59
dereks_crimsun: beautiful02:00
dereks_thanks02:00
dereks_i didn't know that option02:00
crimsundereks_: works?02:00
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psusiskon, you are claiming that you can see all the traffic on campus are't you?  I'm saying no, you can't... there is no way the entire campus is on one non switched hub... therefore, all you see are broadcasts02:00
dereks_yeah02:00
gtrplrsorry, it says invalid driver02:00
crimsundereks_: excellent.02:00
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skonpsusi: it's a high school running an NT server02:00
dereks_crimsun: when it boots, how come it says alsa setup fails though02:00
crimsundereks_: is this a dist-upgrade from Hoary?02:00
crimsundereks_: (presuming you're running Breezy)02:01
jhenncan someone help me get my sound working?02:01
dereks_crimsun: oh :) i forgot, dapper from breezy02:01
psusiskon, ohh... still... in this day and age, about the only non switched hubs are things like 5 port home routers02:01
crimsundereks_: oh, it's because the mixer element names shifted.02:01
dereks_but it didn't work on breezy either, just too lazy to fix it02:01
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crimsundereks_: no big deal.02:01
dereks_crimsun: ohh ok02:01
silverpowerWhere do I mount the partitions in the installer, since it's forcing me to do it manually? I just mount everything to /target and use swapon on my swap partition, correct?02:01
skonpsusi: we run ancient technology...our sysadmin is so dumb that we don't have access to our cisco router...charter does02:01
dereks_i don't follow, but i will take your word02:01
crimsundereks_: annoying, will be fixed02:01
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psusiunless this is like a 20 computer lab using really old hardware?02:01
dereks_ok02:01
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dereks_now if only banshee worked :)02:02
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Snake__Well what would be a good third party firmware for my router? I believe nalioth said something about that02:02
skonpsusi: yes, basically02:02
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psusiohh... ok ;)02:02
Notemy school uses  xp but we have so much spy ware its not even funny02:02
cafuegoSnake__: What router?02:02
dereks_crimsun: thanks for all your help, now i gotta go use it02:02
dereks_ttyl02:02
naliothSnake__: #ubuntu-offtopic please02:02
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Snake__cafuego: Linksys WRK54G02:03
cafuegoSnake__: go to www.openwrt.org02:03
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ninerCan someone offer suggestions on getting the 5.10 LiveCD to boot on a Dell Dimension?   It keeps locking up when loading the hotplug subsystem.02:03
Seveas!seen mdz02:03
ubotui haven't seen 'mdz', Seveas02:03
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Notethe library computers are full of the stuff we get popups when we arn't on line and the home page on IE (They dont even use ff) is messed up02:04
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Dr_Willisniner,  what cpu?02:04
niner(additional info:   I've added a PCI video card to replace the onboard video)02:04
Shadymanniner: You should be able to set various boot-time kernel options02:04
Snake__cafuego: Will I get kicked offline when I do this?02:04
blankyhey guys, you install a tar.gz by untarring it, then doing make make, install, ./configure ? Is it the right order?02:04
silverpowerniner: nohotplug, I think.02:04
Seveasblanky, no02:04
skonSomeone please check the pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355 and tell me what I'm doing wrong with gparted please02:04
Snake__cafuego: and if I screw it up, can I revert back?02:04
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ninerPentium IV 1.4 GHz, 512MB RAM.    Added a 128MB Geforce PCI card.02:04
Seveas!tell blanky about compiling02:05
cafuegoSnake__: When applying the firmware? Yes. Make _CERTAIN_ you read all docs. There is a chance you'll turn the router into a brick.02:05
aeon17x!tell aeon17x about compiling02:05
gerald-voltis there a program that can tell me my cpu temperature in terminal?02:05
naliothSnake__: you are offtopic02:05
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Seveasgerald-volt, cat02:05
Snake__argh sorry nalioth02:05
gerald-volthow?02:05
cafuegoSnake__: For all other inquiries, please refer to the site I gave you :-)02:05
odathi everyone02:05
Snake__cafuego: okie dokie02:05
Seveasgerald-volt, cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/*02:05
odati am getting this error not sure what to do02:06
odatC compiler cannot cr eate executables02:06
ninerSnake__, go read that website.   read it twice.02:06
Snake__lol02:06
Seveasgerald-volt, browse through these dirs for more fun :)02:06
odatC compiler cannot create executables02:06
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Seveas!tell odat about compiling02:06
gerald-voltcool02:06
gerald-voltthanks02:06
psusiSnake__, look, if you are trying to spy on your neighbor's cable modem traffic, give up... you can't... if you want to see all that you can, ditch the router and plug directly into the modem02:06
gtrplrSeveas, could you do the same for me02:06
gerald-volthmm, i wonder if I have acpi enabled in my kernel02:06
ninersilverpower, thanks, i didn't see a nohotplug option in the menus.02:06
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shsnochey folks02:06
gerald-voltI don't have anything in that directory02:06
Seveasgtrplr, ?02:06
PeteyPablo!compiling02:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware02:06
Snake__psusi: Wow............thats agood idea02:07
silverpowerniner: np - most of my boxes hate hotplug.02:07
interfeari think my iso is corrupt.. ill try dling another one.. the install keeps having a problem with a poing02:07
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interfearsays cant read from cdrom02:07
interfearand ive burned 3 already02:07
shsnoccan anyone point me to a decent irc server to run to help coworkers collaborate?02:07
Seveasinterfear, check the md5sum of both iso and burned cd02:07
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shadeofgreyguts02:07
skonSomeone please take a look here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/635502:07
psusiSnake__, all you're going to see though is a bunch of ARP broadcasts and your own traffic02:07
Seveas!md502:07
ubotuwell, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto02:07
shadeofgreyer02:07
gtrplrSeveas, was looking for compiling info02:07
Snake__o02:07
shsnocI'm using ubuntu 5.1002:07
Snake__:(02:07
gtrplrand wireless02:07
shadeofgreyguys im havuing avery weird issue with the newest version of dapper02:07
crimsunshsnoc: you may want to consider jabber as an alternative02:07
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Snake__Networks are to lockeddown now in days02:07
Seveasgtrplr, ubotu said it to the channel :)02:08
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SeveasSnake__, you were warned twice about being offtopic02:08
shsnocWhy is that?02:08
shadeofgreyevery time i click on the applications menu, it opens, but flashes suddenly and draws a square in the bottom lefthand cortner odf the screen and wont show the applications menu for more than  a few sedconds02:08
crimsunshsnoc: much less infrastructure to configure02:08
shsnocI know so little about jabber to be honest.02:08
shsnochmmm02:08
shsnocis there a jabber server I need then?02:08
crimsunshsnoc: you can create your own if you wish02:09
crimsunshsnoc: there's good documentation online02:09
PeteyPablocan anyone help me with a azureus display problem on ubuntu ?02:09
odatwhy do i keep getting this02:09
odatC compiler cannot create executables02:09
gerald-voltSeveas, i don't have anything in the thermal_zone directory02:09
ninerAdditional question:   has anyone run Xen on Ubuntu?02:09
gtrplris there a readme for wireless ndiswrappers??02:09
cafuego!ndiswrapper02:09
ubotuwell, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:09
crimsunodat: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential02:09
odati have every compiler installed02:09
shsnocSo should I search for ubuntu+jabber server?02:09
Seveasodat, read what Ubotu sent you02:09
crimsunshsnoc: sure, or "debian jabber server"02:10
odati did02:10
odatdoesn't help02:10
naliothodat: some of the build scripts you have call gcc in a way the gcc doesnt understand02:10
skonDoes anyone have any ideas about my gparted problem  ?02:10
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Seveasodat, what does dpkg -l build-essential say?02:10
Seveas(pastebin the output)02:11
gtrplrwell, thanks any ways02:11
gtrplradios!02:11
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odatno packages found matching02:11
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jhennmy sound doesn't work in gxine and audacity but it works in bmp and sound juicer.  anyone know why?02:11
psusiskon, what happens when you grab the left edge of the partition and try to drag it further left into the free space?02:11
sambaseekerCan anybody send me link for Samba tutorial for Ubuntu?02:12
ilba7ris there a link for standard way to format a wiki?02:12
skonpsusi: nothing02:12
shsnocThank you for your suggestion.  I'll look into jabber some.02:13
psusihrm... I thought you could do that?  hrm... you ARE doing this from the livecd right?02:13
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skonyes live CD02:13
odatSeveas, no packages found matching02:13
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chance2105_How can you tell what package a particular file belongs to?02:13
interfearwhas a fast mirror like 300k/sec?02:13
interfearim only getin 100 from all the ones on the sie02:13
odatanyone ever use ccd2iso?02:13
Seveasodat, then READ WHAT UBOTU SENT02:13
shsnocOne other question, I know on a debian distro I could control all the places it looked for packages.  On a standard ubuntu install, I'd imagine only I don't have access to many sites to download from.  Is this true?02:14
skonshsnoc: /etc/apt/sources.list02:14
Seveasshsnoc, ubuntu uses the same mechanism as debian, you can download from wherever you want...02:14
shsnocDo you have some good places I should add to that list?02:14
Seveas!tell shsnoc about easysource02:14
shsnoceasysource?02:15
Seveasthe link ubotu sent you has a few nice ones02:15
interfearis there a way to do an internet install?02:15
shsnocForgive me, I just recently left MS cold turkey and trying to pick all this stuff up.02:15
Seveasinterfear, yes, but it's far from easy02:15
sambaseeker!tell sambaseeker about samba02:15
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psusiskon, if you are particularly daring then, you can try doing it by hand from the command line02:16
Seveasshsnoc, then go there, tick all repositories you like and inspect the result :)02:16
skonpsusi: er...okay02:16
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interfearfuck why isnt this iso workting] 02:16
skonpsusi: parted is always non destructive right?02:16
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interfeartheres no reason for it to now work02:16
interfearerr not02:16
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psusiskon, it tries to be... yes02:16
lennox11can someone help me on installing the ubuntu?02:16
crimsunjhenn: make sure you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup prior to starting Audacity.02:16
lennox11my cd rom will not work in windows xp02:16
Seveasinterfear, that language is not tolerated02:16
sambaseekercan anybody tell ubotu to tell me about samba please.02:16
psusiskon, I've never actually used it... but I'd think that if gparted can't, then parted can't either... but give it a shot02:16
Seveas!smba02:17
ubotuNot a clue, Seveas02:17
lennox11are there any bootdisks i can make to install it02:17
Seveas!samba02:17
ubotusamba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:17
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skonlennox11: ubuntu doesn't work in windows xp02:17
psusiskon, otherwise, I was thinking of using dd to move the partition to the left... fdisk, then extend02:17
shsnocbesides vi, is there another editor to use from terminal?02:17
lennox11i know, but how do i initiate the install disk02:17
Seveasshsnoc, nano02:17
lennox11i cant find any boot disks02:17
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sambaseekerSeaves: thx02:17
skonpsusi: i'll give it a shot02:17
Seveasor joe, jedit, mc-edit02:17
shsnocthank you02:17
Toma-lennox11: you need to set your bios to boot from the cd drive02:17
Seveaseh, skip jedit02:17
lennox11i did that, and it still boots to my f: drive02:18
lennox11not my d: drive02:18
psusilennox11, the install cd is bootable02:18
Seveaslennox11, did you burn the iso as image, not as file?02:18
lennox11yeah, as a image02:18
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psusilennox11, then stick the disk in and reboot02:18
Toma-lennox11: is the bios loading the cdrom before the drive?02:18
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lennox11it flashes, but then goes to the cd rom02:19
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daemoswhere can I find themes for ubuntu / gnome ?02:19
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Kyralgnome-look.org02:19
skondaemos: art.gnome.org02:20
naliothdaemos: deviantart.com02:20
Seveas!tell daemos about themes02:20
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tuvksoftirqd is eating the cpu!02:20
skonSeveas: do you have any ideas about gparted?02:20
Seveasskon, no02:20
skonok02:20
sambaseekerwhat is command to uninstall package?02:21
Kyralsudo apt-get remove02:21
Seveassambaseeker, apt-get remove02:21
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sambaseekerok02:21
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silverpowerNow the installer is giving me a 'No installable kernel found' error.02:22
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sambaseekerdo I need restart PC after removal progress?02:23
naliothsilverpower: this an oldworld mac?02:23
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Kyralsambaseeker: not in most cases02:23
silverpowernalioth: NewWorld.02:23
sambaseekerok02:23
naliothsilverpower: i'm at a loss.02:23
naliothsilverpower: perhaps d/l and burn a hoary install cd02:23
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silverpowernalioth: This was my last CD-R.02:24
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haasteemhi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?02:25
haasteemit is very small right now02:26
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jonohi all02:26
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jonodoes anyone know if there is a 2.6.14 kernel for breezy?02:26
jonoor is there a patchset that I can apply to the vanilla kernel to add the ubuntu patches?02:26
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itro#ubuntu-es02:27
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Hobbseejono: howto at ubuntuforums.org02:27
jonowhat is that?02:27
bur[n] erlugradio guy! :)  searched backports I assume?02:27
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bur[n] ernah... none in backports, nevermind02:28
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jonobur[n] er, hey :) none in backports, don't want to move to dapper as it is my mythtv box02:30
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jonoHobbsee, that howto only covers the performance patch - I also want all the driver patches02:30
silverpowernalioth: I'm going to try expert mode and see if I can get it going that way.02:30
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Hobbseejono: ah ok - i've not tried it, i'm on dapper anyway02:30
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bur[n] ersorry jono02:31
meepyI love Ubuntu!02:31
BxLi love ubuntu too!02:31
flodineanyone running a diffrent WM here like flux or openbox that can help me02:31
bur[n] erflodine: what's up?02:31
jonobur[n] er, no probs :)02:31
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meepyMy laptop is 10 degee colder than on Windows!02:32
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flodinewhen i sign in to my wm i got to go gnome-control-center  themes to set my icon why02:32
bur[n] erjono: there's always "build-essential" and kernel.org02:32
silverpowermeepy: that's the magic of Linux. :)02:32
bur[n] erflodine: what WM?02:33
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jonobur[n] er, well I compiled my own kernel, but some bits are missing, and my rt2500 driver freezes the system it seems02:33
flodineim on pek right now02:33
bur[n] erflodine: both flux and openbox?02:33
meepy:D02:33
bur[n] erflodine: there's always gnome-theme-manager02:33
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bur[n] erflodine: or a text editor and config files02:33
flodine bur[n] er is there a command to set it on start up02:34
bur[n] erflodine: oh, they don't have any icons at all before running gnome-control-center ?02:34
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flodine bur[n] er no02:34
bur[n] erbrb02:35
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teprrrhello there.. is there anything badly broken in dapper atm?02:36
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IdleOnehello02:36
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Hobbseeteprrr: think there were some problems with locales02:37
Hobbseedoesnt seem like too much02:37
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IdleOnecan someone tell me how to enable/install java?02:37
gtrplrI am looking for some wireless help02:37
naliothubotu: tell IdleOne about javadebs02:38
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IdleOnety nalioth02:38
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teprrrHobbsee, nothing severe?02:38
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AndrewXis there a kernel package that is basically the standard kernel + SATA support pre-compiled in on some repository somewhere?02:38
ThunderguyWhere is traceroute? I have a manual page, but I don't have traceroute02:38
Hobbseeteprrr not on my machine, but others could have problems02:39
ubuntublahjust installed ubuntu.. whats up with install no root password set..02:39
ubuntublahis there a default02:39
ubuntublah?02:39
naliothThunderguy: it's not spelled that way02:39
Hobbsee!tell ubuntublah about rootsudo02:39
naliothubotu: tell ubuntublah about sudo02:39
teprrrHobbsee, heh, jus tthinking if I will dist-upgrade my desktop now :p02:39
Thunderguynalioth: know what it is spelled like?02:39
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Hobbseeteprrr: safer to install from a flight cd, but go ahead :)  backup first!02:39
jonoI am currently running 32-bit breezy on my amd64 computer - if I compile my new kernel and select athlon64 as the processor type, will this cause problems?02:39
odati am trying to mount and image file on my desktop how do it dothat?02:39
steveO_Officeok does anyone here no how and were to change the login sceen from kdm back to gdm?02:39
teprrrThunderguy, mtr is a good traceroute app02:39
naliothThunderguy: how bout in a console type "ls /usr/bin/trace*"02:39
benplautis there a way to stream quicktime and wmp, from NPR?02:39
naliothsteveO_Office: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm02:40
Hobbseeteprrr: it's useful to check the dapper section of ubuntuforums.org too - a lot of people go over there and tell of their experiences02:40
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haasteemhi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?02:40
steveO_Officenalioth, thanks02:40
cristophineHey guys, I"m having trouble getting my ATI Rage II working. The system just stalls when it tries to load libglx.02:40
cristophineAny ideas?02:40
benplauthaasteem: it's not in the config files?02:40
benplautbrb02:40
teprrrHobbsee, already lookead at the forums.. and I'm not really into burning cds and stuff :)02:40
Hobbseeteprrr: go ahead then, hopefully it'll work02:40
haasteembenplaut: you mean the config files for blackbox?02:41
benplauthaasteem: err, yeah02:41
teprrryup, will go for it soon.. hopefully works better than breezy :p02:41
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flodine bur[n] er you back02:42
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haasteembenplaut: ok... yesterday i asked at #blackbox, and there i was told to do that in a file called .gtkrc-2.0, but that didn't work02:42
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IdleOneok can someone tell a newbie how to get and install java in detail?02:42
IdleOneplease :)02:43
binarydigit!java02:43
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:43
naliothIdleOne: did you read the info ubotu sent you?02:43
bur[n] erflodine: i'm still getting flux set up ;)02:43
naliothubotu: tell IdleOne about deb02:43
benplauthaakonn: look for anything in $HOME that starts with ".gtkrc"... there are about 302:43
bur[n] erflodine: hard to work with on a default config02:43
IdleOneI did .. server is down02:43
steveO_Officewhat the hell is apach.. doing running on a laptop wow I see im going to have to uninstall a few things here02:43
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naliothIdleOne: ubotu has told you everything you need to know about java02:43
benplauthaakonn: the one that says only .gtkrc is the one you want. if it doesn't exist, make it02:43
bur[n] erin any event, you could always put gnome-control-center in the startup02:43
mcjerrywho is running dapper? about 2 days ago i noticed linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 in synaptic upgrades but when i try to upgrade them i get Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-10-386  but it is not installable02:43
bur[n] erflodine: or find some session management app... maybe gnome-session?  dunno if it'd work in fluxbox02:44
dabaRmcjerry: your sources.list sucks, then.02:44
FSNG013hi anyone has info how to get the SMC 2632 V2 card to work .. it shows up as a LAN card i.e. eth0 when we boot with it02:44
haasteembenplaut: was that for me?02:44
benplauthaasteem: yup02:44
haasteemok02:44
haasteemlet me try02:45
Corrupteris there any way to set up a surround sound system with Linux?02:45
Hobbseemcjerry: yes, i get the same error02:45
naliothmcjerry: your gonna have lots of instances like this. dapper is in developement and some pkgs outpace others02:45
Hobbseemcjerry: i've just left it so far - have you checked if there's a bug for it?02:45
HaukkariFSNG013: SMC 2632 V2 you say?02:45
HaukkariFSNG013: I vaguely remember configuring one of those a long time ago on my old PC laptop02:45
FSNG013Haukkari: yeas02:45
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HaukkariFSNG013: it's a WLAN card, right?02:46
steveO_Officehow do I stop sync with ntp.ubuntu time server02:46
FSNG013yep02:46
NCLifeanyone knows why when i type "sudo eject /dev/sda2" it says "unable to open `/dev/sda2'"?02:46
steveO_Officeno more ? now lol02:46
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FSNG013it detects as eth0 when its supposed to be wlan002:46
naliothubotu: tell steveO_Office about bum02:47
HaukkariFSNG013: does it work?02:47
FSNG013Haukkari: kinda02:47
HaukkariFSNG013: you can connect to a network and ping stuff?02:47
FSNG013nope02:47
Haukkarihumh02:48
haasteembenplaut: that doesn't seem to work.... all i have in .gtkrc is: gtk-font-name = "Sans 10"02:48
HaukkariFSNG013: humm... Well, I remember it started working ok with some stabbing on some 2.6 kernels... It needed a lot of stabbing still, however... I manually compiled a kernel with support for those and looked the help-option for the kernel option... and it had some url where I had to go and get firmware and then I had to configure hotplug and so on... So, uh... :)02:48
Haukkarithe SMC 2632 V2 or V302:48
haasteembenplaut: and there is nothing about fonts in .blackboxrc02:48
FSNG013V202:48
steveO_Officenalioth, Thanks once again....02:48
naliothsteveO_Office: pass on the knowledge.02:49
pl_icebur[n] er  :) bed time, u after 8 hrs u're still here ...02:49
HaukkariFSNG013: tried googling for help?02:49
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steveO_Officealways do mate02:49
sambaseekercan anybody see why my Samba wont start? http://pastebin.com/48365602:49
FSNG013Haukkari: Thanks .. yeah sounds like thats what we need...02:49
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benplauthaasteem: ooohhhh... well, it's not with gtkrc - that's only for gtk apps. i know that for Fluxbox, the font size is defined within the theme (and they're very close). editing the theme will probably let you change it - look in /usr/share/blackbox02:50
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FSNG013Haukkari: We have aonther issue with the Dlink 802.g card too .. so kinda stuck with no network for that Cel550 laptop we had ..02:51
DotheGuruwould anyone happen to know how to open up some ports for azureus?02:51
flodine bur[n] er do you have to go to gnome-control to setthe icon02:51
haasteembenplaut: thaks, i will check right away02:51
skonWhat is the /lost+found folder for in linux?02:51
HaukkariFSNG013: the laptop doesn't have a wired ethernet?02:51
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pl_icesambaseeker testparm is smb.conf file check02:51
mcjerrydabaR: please dcc me your sources.conf if you are running dapper and have current kernel with no errors in synaptic02:51
benplauthaasteem: np... i'm outta here :)02:51
jonoI am trying to build a new kernel and I changed the value of --append-to-version and get the error The changelog says we are creating 2.6.14mykerne1, but I thought the version is 2.6.14jb02:51
jono - I tried to change it back but it doesnt fix it - any suggestions?02:51
teprrrHobbsee, though it looks like locales are broken in my breezy too..02:52
mike_gSound Question: Ubuntu - Breezy, VIA 8235 Sound, Music CD's and ogg files play with too much bass. Any ideas?02:52
mcjerryHobbsee: yes i have just left it alone and haven't researched, thought i'd check here first....will research now and try to solve if interested pm m02:52
teprrrHobbsee, many apps whine about my LANG being en, some of them work anyway, some don't02:52
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Hobbseemcjerry: if you find the solution, i'd like to know - the packages it depends on, one doesnt exist, so i'm assumign it's a case of waiting...02:53
sambaseekerpl_ice: http://pastebin.com/48366202:53
Hobbseeteprrr: true02:53
DotheGurumike double eclick the sound icon on your taskbar02:53
pl_icesambaseeker u don't seem to have startup script in /etc/int.d/samba, canu check that? ...02:53
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shadeofgreyhey guys i need some pretty serious help02:53
DotheGurui think the middle sliders fix it02:53
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mcjerryHobbsee: odd that new headers are there without image though02:53
mike_gDothe... nope02:54
intelikeycan't you just set locales to C ?02:54
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Hobbseemcjerry: true02:54
teprrrskon, http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/lostfound.shtml -- "linux what is lost+found" could've told you this :p02:54
lasindiIs there a way to get an Ubuntu machine to behave like a hub or switch? i.e., if I have two network interfaces on the machine, can it serve as a hub between them to extend the network?02:54
sambaseekerpl_ice: http://pastebin.com/483663 (content of samba)02:55
HiddenWolfwhat is the easiest way to convert a .flac to a low-encoding mp3?02:55
mike_gPCM is the only active channel02:55
shadeofgreyhiddenwolf!02:55
FSNG013Haukkari: no .. its a 5130 HP02:55
shadeofgreyi need you!02:55
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naliothlasindi: with 2 NICs, sure you can02:55
HaukkariFSNG013: :/02:55
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teprrrintelikey, well, I thought they should be C as I haven't changed anything..02:55
skonthanks02:55
HaukkariFSNG013: you could always get a PCMCIA wired ethernet card02:55
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lasindinalioth: I don't really have any idea where to get started. What configurations/tools do I need?02:56
HaukkariFSNG013: I hear those don't cost much nowadays02:56
BaalDoes anyone know how to set up an identd server?02:56
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HaukkariBaal: umm, just the identd?02:57
naliothlasindi: having 2 nics is the best start. after that you can use any iptables configurator to enable whatever actions you want02:57
intelikeyen != C02:57
HaukkariBaal: if you are not behind a NAT, just install oidentd and start it02:57
BaalWhat is a NAT?02:57
SirKillalotnetwork address translation02:57
spiderwormhey all i finally got dvd playback working but the audio is barely audible, i cant hardly hear it, and cant figure out how to turn it up....02:57
sambaseekerpl_ice: can you check default CHMOD for etc/samba forler?02:57
spiderwormcan anyone help?02:57
HaukkariBaal: well, if you are behind a firewall or not. =)02:57
sambaseekerfolder*02:57
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BaalI am behind a firewall02:58
lasindinalioth: isn't iptables the firewall? I know how to get iptables to accept or reject packets on given ports, but how does it apply to being a hub?02:58
HaukkariBaal: then you can't get identd to work unless you set up a ident proxy on that firewall... which can be difficult if the firewall is not a linux box02:58
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SirKillalotspiderworm, do you want to raise the volume?02:58
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spiderwormSirKillalot: yes02:58
BaalThe firewall is built into a router.  What ports do I need to open02:58
odathow can i tell the path of my cdrom?02:59
HaukkariBaal: identd is on port 113 but it won't work. The router itself should have an identd proxy, which you can't do as it's a dumb router...02:59
SirKillalotspiderworm, try gnome-volume-control or alsamixer02:59
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spiderwormSirKillalot: i have kmix open and im messing with all sorts of channels, but none of them are doing it.... dont know what to do...02:59
naliothlasindi: iptables is your linux boxes routing system. you can use it for a firewall (unnecessary) or enable connection sharing or routing02:59
BaalI can set up forwarding on the router so that should work02:59
teprrrintelikey, well, it used to work earlier.. so it must be some ubuntu crap which has broken it during an update02:59
SirKillalotspiderworm, try the PCM channel02:59
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pl_icesambaseeker i got tiny version different then urs, but the script is the same, can u run it through standard smb.conf ? ... try killing smbd and other ones, maybe they stuck ..02:59
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spiderwormSirKillalot: with pcm and master all the way up, its still barely audible03:00
teprrrlasindi, nalioth, isn't ipptables just a frontend for kernel's netfilter?03:00
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SirKillalotspiderworm, how about audio with other apps?03:00
naliothteprrr: iptables allows you to route things as you wish03:00
HaukkariBaal: yeah, one might think. :)03:00
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kathanI've got a problem with eclipse, I try to install tptp but the plugin org.eclipse.emf.ecore.xmf is required. So I try to install emf but it doesn't work, there's a message saying I'm trying to install an unsigned feature. Then the installation fails and it's written "org.eclipse.update.internal.core.SiteFilePluginContentConsumer"03:00
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HaukkariBaal: but identd has some weird stuff that it won't work with simple forwarding03:00
HaukkariBaal: you can try if you want, but it won't work. :(03:01
spiderwormSirKillalot: audio with other apps is fine03:01
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spiderwormSirKillalot: this box is used as a mythtv box and the occasional gaming03:01
intelikeyteprrr indeed.03:01
spiderwormeverything works fine other than dvd playback03:01
SirKillalotspiderworm, then it should be a problem with the program03:01
pl_iceHaukkari i thouht it will work on forward ...03:01
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SirKillalotspiderworm, what do you use for dvd playback?03:01
Haukkaripl_ice: well, you are free to try.03:01
BaalHaukkari: I see.  So there is no way to get identd to work through the router.03:01
pl_ice:)03:01
Deep6anyone got a link for flash player on mozilla03:01
Toma-!flash03:02
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats03:02
HaukkariBaal: well, not that I know of...03:02
HobbseeDeep6: apt-cache search mozilla flash03:02
mcjerryanyone with Dapper running 2.6.15-10-386?03:02
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Toma-mcjerry: file a bug.03:02
spiderwormSirKillalot: uh, its myplayer running through mythtv, i guess03:02
smacky_wolfWell, hi all.03:02
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Deep6Hobbsee, tried, libflash-mozplugin doesn't seem to work03:03
SirKillalotspiderworm, you should try to change the audio plugin for mplayer or something, it works fine for me and DVD03:03
Hobbseehmm03:03
smacky_wolfAnyone ever had issues trying to get kubuntu on a laptop? IE: the install process?03:03
fit4lfeI know thi is probably the wrong channel but does anyone user lftp here ?03:03
pl_icesmacky_wolf , yeh but mine is v. old03:03
spiderwormSirKillalot: on your cue, trying xine, sound seems fine in xine....03:03
fit4lfedoes anyone user lftp here ?03:04
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spiderwormSirKillalot: i'll try different apps, thanks03:04
smacky_wolfHow old?03:04
SirKillalotspiderworm, vlc is also good03:04
SirKillalotspiderworm, or ogle03:04
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pl_ice450 mhz :)03:04
smacky_wolfAh. Sounds about the same XD03:04
sambaseekerpl_ice: they are OK because I installed samba again03:05
lasindinalioth: I'm still sort of lost here. I mean, how do I configure iptables to do routing like a hub? I don't want it to act like a router, just a hub, i.e. an extension of the network.03:05
pashawsmacky_wolf,  about 450    ouch  id use  server install   then apt-get xubuntu-desktop03:05
naliothlasindi: you can do it from firestarter, iirc03:05
smacky_wolfAcer 500t. It refuses to fdo anything. Just SITS in the first install for hours.03:05
pashawsmacky_wolf,   works great on nmy 500 lappy03:05
smacky_wolfPas: I have no interwebs on it at this stage.03:05
pl_icesmacky_wolf yes, it's to do with the power, swith the acpi off, if i can remember well03:06
pl_icehad the same03:06
smacky_wolfOoh, OK. Cool.03:06
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lasindinalioth: okay thanks03:06
smacky_wolfThanks muchly *goes and pokes laptop*03:06
pashawsmacky_wolf,   if its that old  use these switches at boot: linux acpi=off noapic03:06
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smacky_wolfIt hasn't done that with any other distros.03:07
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smacky_wolfThanks, pas. Shall give it a go.03:07
pl_icesambaseeker u didn't do any config in smb.conf? .. or u did?03:07
AndrewXstupid kernel panic error03:07
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SirKillalotgood night ubuntu lovers03:08
smacky_wolfPas, did you have any issues with sound when you got it going?03:08
pl_icenight03:08
smacky_wolfEver since I junked Win95 it hasn't made any other noises than the PC speaker03:08
intelikeyit takes a brave kernel to never panic03:08
pashawsmacky_wolf,  dont believe i did,  but the desktop needed reconfig  wasnt full screen03:09
smacky_wolfArh.03:09
AndrewXor possibly a kernel with SATA support compiled in, instead of a module =/03:09
smacky_wolfDebian hated it, Mandrake hated it, erm.... LFS wouldn't even get past a PANIC03:09
AndrewXbut that would require being able to bood03:09
intelikeythat too03:09
AndrewX*biit03:09
skonAnyone run ubuntu on a laptop and have trouble when you close the lid? Screen won't come back on?03:09
AndrewX*boot03:09
naliothskon: most of us have that 'feature'03:10
mister_robotoskon: yes, i have that problem03:10
Toma-AndrewX: you cant get a working kernel to boot?03:10
durtskon: happens occasionally for some reason03:10
odati mounted an image how do i unmount it03:10
smacky_wolfHey, can someone tell me if there ARE any major differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu, other than the Xwin?03:10
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smacky_wolfI got Kubuntu becasue Gnome is ugly :(03:10
skonSo I take it there is no fix for it?03:11
pashawnalioth,   is that an acpi bug?     my lappy comes back fine    but its old so all the acpi is disabled03:11
Toma-smacky_wolf: no diff. except for kde + usplash image03:11
intelikeysmacky_wolf not uspposed to be any03:11
AndrewXToma: I can't get the default kernel on the Breezy CD to boot. "Kernel Panic: VFS: can't mount root fs"03:11
naliothpashaw: there is a lot of trouble, it seems, with sleep/hibernate03:11
pashawsmacky_wolf,   how much RAM that lappy have?03:11
mister_robotoskon: it actually runs when coming out of standby, i can hear disk spinning when i do commands but the screen won't turn on. haven't figured out a fix but kind of quit looking03:11
pashawnalioth,   thx  was installing onto my centrino lappy soon03:11
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Toma-AndrewX: sounds like you have some errors on the cd. or on the new partition03:11
smacky_wolf64mb03:12
skonmister_roboto: same here....I found that if you "suspend" the computer, it'll never do that03:12
mister_robotoskon: but it just freezes with garbled screen out of hibernate. this is using nvidia's binary driver03:12
Toma-or possibly the boot sector03:12
naliothpashaw: it should work fine (my centrino HP dv1000 worked ootb) but i dont close my lid03:12
pashawsmacky_wolf,   youll want to use xubuntu  then03:12
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Toma-AndrewX: basically, its not the kernel.03:12
smacky_wolfAnd Pas, that fixed it. It's further than it got into the last 4 hours.03:12
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AndrewXToma: I've tried 2 CDs. It worked when I upgraded from Horay to Breezy, but broke on reinstall. I think it has something to do with the fact that I have both an IDE and a SATA drive03:12
pashawnalioth,   ahh cool dv1000   is similar to my x103003:12
smacky_wolfAww, so I ned to download ANOTHER iso?03:12
Toma-AndrewX: i see.03:13
MarcNpashaw: I have an hp nc600003:13
jiangguoweia bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?03:13
mister_robotoskon: oddly enough, one of the previous iterations of ubuntu worked coming out of suspend.   but never worked again after one of the updates03:13
Toma-AndrewX: is the grub/boot option loading the right root fs?03:13
nuttychickensorry for soundin stupid but i'm new to linux, is there a compiler that comes with ubuntu? if not is there a place i could get one with a guide to getting it to work?03:13
mister_robotoskon: i just keep trying it every time they update the kernel  :)03:13
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pashawsmacky_wolf,   no  get installed   see if your eyes bleed from the slowness :P    then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:13
pashawsmacky_wolf,   sold only be about 26mb download or so03:13
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smacky_wolfOh, cool.03:14
durtnuttychicken: what kind of compiler?03:14
skonmister_roboto: same here...it's not a huge problem, works every time using suspend but it's also a pain to hit the logoff button and suspend every time you want to pack it up03:14
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nuttychickenc++03:14
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sagarpi have a 160gb drive and a 250gb drive...i want some space for fat32 storage, and the linux partition on the 250..how should i parition it?!03:14
smacky_wolfErm, can I grab the package from the ubuntu website por whatever, then put it on a CD? I have no interwebs with it03:14
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durtnuttychicken: get build-essential, and use g++03:14
nuttychickenbuild-essential?03:15
skonnuttychicken: try sudo apt-get install g++03:15
durtsudo apt-get install build-essential03:15
skonand that03:15
pashawsmacky_wolf,   not sure  i know it read some stuff off the cd  didnt pay attention how much extra if any03:15
BaalHaukkari:  I have D-link router and they have a tech support FAQ about setting up the router for identd with mIRC (I assume on windows).  They say to set up a virtual server for port 113, open ports 2070-2075, and set up mIRC to DCC with these ports.03:15
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jiangguowei a bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?03:15
smacky_wolfAh, OK.03:15
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nuttychickenthanks :)03:16
smacky_wolfThanks, Pas. You rawk :D03:16
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Snake__Feedom.03:16
Snake__:)03:16
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BaalHaukkari:  Do you think this will work with xchat?03:16
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smacky_wolfHrmmmmm... How does someone rate my chances of getting Ragnarok Online to work under WINE?03:17
AndrewXToma: actually, no. The installer won't put it anywhere but on the IDE drive, even if the SATA is set as primary in the BIOS. If I install it with SATA drive as the default drive, grub doesn't come up until i go back into the BIOS and switch the default to IDE, then grub comes up.03:18
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Toma-smacky_wolf: try google "appdb" then look for rangarok03:18
smacky_wolfWoo, thanks.03:18
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Toma-AndrewX: well get grub to come up, then change the root=/dev/blah to root=/dev/yourSATA03:19
mister_robotosmacky_wolf: did you try this?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ro-client/03:19
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pl_iceguys! shit, when i use fdisk, does it wirte partitions on the spot, or at the end? o/w i just f*cdkd my ipod ...03:19
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crimsun_heh.03:19
Toma-pl_ice: dont swear, youll get banned.03:19
pl_icek03:20
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durtpl_ice: hit q to quit without writing03:20
Toma-pl_ice: it writes when you say "Quit and write changes to disk"03:20
smacky_wolfIce: Did you make a backup like a good little fanboy?03:20
pl_iceyeh, made backup, but wiped wrong partition :) backup tooook looong time ...03:20
pl_icekool, thnx03:20
shadeofgreyokay guys03:21
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shadeofgreyits time for me to get off my lazy ass and reinstall dapper03:21
shadeofgreyill brb 40 mins or less03:21
shadeofgreykeep my seat at the bar warm03:21
smacky_wolfGood boy. *pets*03:21
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shadeofgreyhi smacky wolf...  was that pet for me?03:22
smacky_wolfIf you want. :D03:22
smacky_wolfBut Ice gets one, too.03:22
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Hobbseeshadeofgrey: dont remind me...03:23
smacky_wolfOK, pets for all then!03:23
maskdgod damn turning off the login sound makes gnome load so much quicker03:23
Toma-kekeke ^_^03:23
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skonHow do you turn off the login sound?03:24
jhenni can't get my sound working with some programs03:24
skonNevermind, found it03:24
crimsun_jhenn: did you follow the tip that I gave you above?03:24
maskdjhenn: System > Preferences > Sound03:24
BoukenPinkOkay, so my ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV has TV-In... and I want to record something to a video file... How would I go about doing that in Ubuntu? :303:24
jhenncrimsun_: no i missed that sorry03:25
maskdselect the sound events tab03:25
maskdthen in the box thing, select log in, and press the remove button03:25
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crimsun_jhenn: just disable the sound server startup03:26
jhenncrimsun_: won't i have no sound at all then03:26
highwindhello03:26
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Toma-better yet, disable sound server all together.03:26
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smacky_wolfHeeeeyyyy... Anyone else got a Sony Ericsson W800i?03:27
BoukenPinkAnyone? :D03:27
crimsun_jhenn: you just won't have sound /events/03:27
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nalioth#ubuntu-offtopic  awaits all of you folks who aren't needing ubuntu help03:27
crimsun_jhenn: you'll still have sound as long as your sound apps are configured to use gstreamer's audio sink (System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> ALSA)03:27
smacky_wolfOk, my bad.03:28
jhenncrimsun_: okay ill restart and try this03:28
smacky_wolfThanks for the help, guys <303:28
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jhenncrimsun_: it was set to esd and oss should i change it to both alsa?03:28
crimsun_jhenn: only change the sink to ALSA03:29
AndrewXToma- yeah, it does say root=/dev/sda4. I also have Windows installed, and its on /dev/hda1, which grub loads just fine.03:30
AndrewXbut it chokes on loading the kernel off the sata drive03:30
jhenncrimsun_: the tests don't work03:31
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crimsun_jhenn: did you uncheck sound server startup in System> Preferences> Sound ?03:31
AndrewXI'm thinking about just ditching the IDE drive at this point.03:31
jhenncrimsun_: yes03:31
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intelikeyjust a thought AndrewX but you could copy your kernel and initrd to the hda1 and load them from there03:31
Toma-AndrewX: so the ubuntu kernel is on the SATA drive?03:31
crimsun_jhenn: pastebin the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''03:31
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AndrewXToma: Yes. /boot = /dev/sda1    / = /dev/sda403:32
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lampshadeOk, I have a fresh server install, I want to install fluxbox, and xmms, and VNC.  How do I do this?  Normally I would say you just apt-get this and apt-get that, but apparently that is wrong or something as nothing works and everything falls apart leading to great frustration03:32
Toma-i see.03:32
lampshadeis there a particular order or something.... sigh03:32
skonlampshade: did you enable your repositories and then update?03:33
crimsun_lampshade: xmms is in main; just install it. You'll need to enable universe for fluxbox and tightvnc-server.03:33
crimsun_tightvncserver^03:33
lampshadeskon:  Yeah, everything installs, just... nothing talks to eachother... things don't work... either X is spiking at 99% cpu or vnc is.... one of the two.  when I tried tightvnc, it wouldn't work because it was missing some freaking fonts... which makes no sense to me03:33
jhenncrimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/635703:34
lampshadeeven after making sure xfonts-base was installed03:34
crimsun_jhenn: ok, ``cat /proc/asound/cards''03:34
skonlampshade, uh that's strange, what are your specs?03:34
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crimsun_lampshade: pastebin the errors03:34
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epixwho wants to help me fix a broken partition table?03:35
skonnot me!03:35
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skonI had trouble with partitions that nobody could help me with :o03:35
epixanyone?03:35
jhenncrimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/635803:35
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braniffepix, what's wrong with it?03:36
skonepix what's the quesiton03:36
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naliothubotu: tell epix about anyone03:36
epixim this |--| close to just reinstalling03:36
crimsun_jhenn: oh boy.03:36
AndrewXso to sum up, /boot = /dev/sda1   / = /dev/sda4    C:\ = /dev/hda1       breezy install loads grub onto /dev/hda no matter what and gives a kernel panic: vfs: can't mount root fs error when loading the kernel.03:36
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AndrewXbut windows is fine. =/03:36
epixok, i ran parted and my computer crashed.03:36
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epixscrewing over my patition table. Ubuntu wont boot.03:36
epixmy setup is /boot on one partition and everything else on another03:37
pashawepix,    it actually crashed  or after you finished ubuntu wont boot?03:37
skondid you reinstall grub?03:37
xiaogilfirefox tries to download my php script instead of running it, what can I do ?03:37
crimsun_jhenn: ok, in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, select Custom. Then in the text entry field below it, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,003:37
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epixpashaw: it crashed during03:37
epixskon: no.03:37
purplefeltangelcan someone tell me how to get Grub to hve Windows at the top and not have the ten-second-default-thingy?03:37
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skonepix: might want to try that03:37
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epixcfdisk can read the table fine. so its not that screwed :P03:37
Toma-AndrewX: what is the 'root  (hdX,X)' line say?03:38
epixskon: can i do it from live?03:38
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skonepix: you do that from the main install CD03:38
lampshadecrimsun_:  there are too many to even begin... That's why I mean it feels like the system fell apart... I felt like I have to do everything manually--  first it complained there was no xsession, so I made one with "exec fluxbox"  then fluxbox wouldn't work properly because the xorg package didn't install xterm or some crap but after xterm was installed it seemed to work but then it only worked when physically at the machine not through VNC(UGhhhhh03:38
AndrewXToma: in the grub conf?03:38
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jhenncrimsun_: okay ill brb my irssi is messing up03:38
Toma-yeh03:38
AndrewXtoma: or the error msg?03:38
Toma-in grub03:38
bob832whats the easiest way to setup acpi in gnome?  saw that in kde, all you have to do is go to control panel and was wondering if there is something just as easy in gnome03:38
epixskon: can you do it from the live CD? I have it booted atm.03:38
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AndrewX(hd1,0)03:38
AndrewXerr03:38
crimsun_bob832: it should work automagically.03:38
AndrewXwait03:39
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snkmchnbmaybe someone could point me in the right direction, i'm looking for a package list for ubuntu live03:39
skonepix: I don't know how03:39
jhenncrimsun_: back03:39
lampshadeI'm blowing away the machine and then starting fresh.  First I'm going to apt-get update and upgrade.  then install xserver-xorg then fluxbox03:39
crimsun_lampshade: so start pastebining them.03:39
jhenncrimsun_: test still isn't working for that03:39
epixskon: im thinking of just wiping the whole thing. I made backups.03:39
skonubotu: tell snkmchnb about easysource03:39
crimsun_jhenn: open a Terminal and try: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav03:39
skonepix: lol, okay03:40
epixskon: the only thing that i need to fix is some config, but I have set up ndiswrapper SO many times that I can do it very quickly03:40
skonepix: that alllllways fixes things03:40
snkmchnbty03:40
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epixskon: ill rescue anything important now :)03:40
bob832crimsun_:  oh, saw that in kde, things like suspend, cpu throttling, etc were disabled (unchecked in the control panel) by default03:40
pashawpurplefeltangel,   you get an answer?03:40
bob832and figured i had to enable them03:40
skonepix: ah ndiswrapper...i love that thing...it was so easy once I figured out how it worked haha03:40
purplefeltangelpashaw: nope not yet03:40
crimsun_bob832: Ubuntu and Kubuntu handle ACPI stuff differently03:40
intelikeyepix mount your installed ubuntu some place like /mnt      and do a sudo chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda        assumes ide master.03:40
jhenncrimsun_: it just sits there03:41
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crimsun_jhenn: ok, something still has it open. lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*03:41
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epixintelikey: mount throws an error: operation not supported.03:41
bob832so is it safe to say that ubuntu = auto. acpi     kubuntu = some assembly required?03:42
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crimsun_bob832: yes and no.03:42
crimsun_bob832: the deciding factor is the hardware itself03:42
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pashawpurplefeltangel,   edit /boot/grub/menu.1st   you want to ONLY change near the top it will say  default    0         count your kernels starting with 0,1,2,3,4  til you hit your windows ntry  and change default to that #03:42
intelikeyepix  you can test to see if the partition/s are intact with   sudo fdisk -l03:42
jhenncrimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/635903:42
skonepix: did you do sudo?03:43
Sunn_TI just burned 3 ubuntu disks. All 3 won't let me finish installing the "Base System". I did an integrity check of the CDs. All 3 failed. Two CDs were corrupted on the same file, and the other on a different one. Is the CD burner the problem?03:43
pashawpurplefeltangel,   as long as you dont change anything else   you can always manually select your boot kernel  to fix it03:43
gr3g123Hey guys, im trying to install mysql-cc, and im getting this error: mysqlcc: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3-3) but it is not going to be installed03:43
crimsun_jhenn: close the System> Preferences windows03:43
jonook x remote bods - how do I run a remote x app on my current laptop but so it uses the settings on the remote computer ?03:43
bob832crimsun_:  oh ok then03:43
epixintelikey: it is.03:43
gr3g123how can i fix it03:43
purplefeltangelpashaw: so wait, will there just be windows and ubuntu, or do all those other things of ubuntu (safe mode or whatever) count?03:43
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skonSunn_T: did you do a checksum?03:43
epixintelikey: i do sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/system03:43
jhenncrimsun_: okay works03:43
intelikeyepix use   ls /    to make sure that /mnt exists03:43
pashawpurplefeltangel,  all count    first uncommented entry is 003:43
epixintelikey: i made the dir03:43
intelikeyk03:44
bob832crimsun_:  thanks03:44
Sunn_Tskon - I did somethink like that. The install disk let me check the integrity of the files and such.03:44
pashawpurplefeltangel,   each entry starts with "title"03:44
purplefeltangelpashaw: ok i'll try that03:44
xiaogilhow to block the uninstallation of the package phpmyadmin ?03:44
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skonSunn_T: where did you download from? is it the correct size?03:44
Sunn_TThe ubuntu website.03:44
purplefeltangelpashaw: wait, where is the "boot" folder? ^_^;03:44
pashawpurplefeltangel,   then below   default youll see you time out option03:44
purplefeltangeloh nvm03:44
intelikeyepix you can  sudo umount /dev/hda*    then try to mount it again.03:45
jhenncrimsun_: some apps are still giving me problems03:45
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intelikeyand yes that will spew errors03:45
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skonSunn_T: well do a checksum where you get the number of bytes in the file and then you compare that to the number on the download site (don't remember off the top of my head where it was)03:45
Sunn_TThe ISO file is the same size as what it's supposed to be before download.03:46
epixintelikey: oper not supported03:46
intelikeycommand ?03:46
crimsun_jhenn: which works?03:46
purplefeltangelpashaw: i think windows is 6; does that sound right? :/03:46
epixintelikey: mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/sys03:46
crimsun_jhenn: the aplay?03:46
jhenncrimsun_: actually its working03:46
epixintelikey: sudoed03:46
jhenncrimsun_: do you use audacity?03:46
crimsun_jhenn: ok, good.03:46
purplefeltangelpashaw: and what should i set the timeout to to get there to be no timeout at all? 0 or just some extremely high number?03:46
skonSunn_T: and what are you burning it with? you might try burning it at a lower speed too if you are having buffer underrun problems03:47
crimsun_jhenn: yes but not on this computer.03:47
jhenncrimsun_: so im using alsa now?03:47
xiaogilI can't uninstall phpmyadmin, is that a general bug ??03:47
crimsun_jhenn: yes03:47
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intelikeymodprobe reiserfs ?03:47
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pashawpurplefeltangel,    dont go below 2-303:47
crimsun_jhenn: (you were using ALSA before, too, just through esd)03:47
bob832crimsun_:  how could i test something like cpu throttling to see if it is working correctly (in other words, see how much it throttles my cpu)  ?03:47
purplefeltangelpashaw: i don't understand. D:03:47
epixintelikey: oper not supported03:47
HrdwrBoBbob832: with the CPU speed panel applet03:47
pashawpurplefeltangel, too low  youll have a heck of a time picking anything but default03:47
crimsun_bob832: if you leave it idle, it should automatically throttle down.03:48
jhenncrimsun_: audacity says "error while opening sound device. Please check the input device settings and the project sample rate." what does that mean?03:48
bob832oh, didn't realize there was an applet for that  lol03:48
Sunn_Tskon - The cheksum is correct.03:48
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crimsun_jhenn: you need to close /all/ open audio apps before starting Audacity03:48
purplefeltangelpashaw: oh, for the timeout! ok. but the number of a given kernel (ie windows) is just its order on the list?03:49
pashawpurplefeltangel,   yes03:49
purplefeltangelok, thank you!!03:49
skonSunn_T: read above03:49
xiaogilE: phpmyadmin: le sous-processus pre-removal script a retourn une erreur de sortie d'tat 12703:49
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xiaogilwhat's wrong with phpmyadmin ?03:49
purplefeltangelpashaw: er, gragh, how do i get the file to not be read-only?03:49
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pashawpurplefeltangel,   sudo03:49
epixintelikey: i will remind you that this partition is most likely rather screwed over...03:49
Sunn_Tskon - I burned it at 40x and then at 8x. I think that 8x is the lowest my burner will go.03:50
intelikeyafirmed03:50
intelikeyff03:50
crimsun_jhenn: also, lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss03:50
purplefeltangelpashaw: umm sudo what ^^;;; sorry i'm so bad at this03:50
skonSunn_T: with what program, under what OS03:50
MalachaiCan I ask an OpenOffice.org question? Noone responds in their IRC channel...03:51
xiaogilwhy phpmyadmin is unremovable ?03:51
naliothMalachai: ask03:51
intelikeybooting live cd on a slow system,  give me a minute epix03:51
Toma-Malachai: go ahead03:51
pashawpurplefeltangel, your taking a risk understand?     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st      just change  default # and timeout nothing else03:51
Sunn_TI used Alcohol 120 and NTI CD-Maker Gold.03:51
jhenncrimsun_: snd_pcm_oss            65024  003:51
epixintelikey: no problem.03:51
Sunn_TWinXP03:51
jonoany mplayer experts here?03:51
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purplefeltangelpashaw ok thank you03:51
crimsun_jhenn: ok, then you should be fine.03:51
crimsun_jono: I'm no expert, but what do you need?03:51
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epixon another subject, should windows be installed first, or ubuntu?03:52
jhenncrimsun_: i close 'em and its still not letting me record03:52
crimsun_epix: Windows.03:52
naliothjono: just ask your question03:52
naliothepix: windows first03:52
intelikeywin03:52
MalachaiIn calc, I want some cells to update automatically. When I enter information into one cell, I want corresponding cells to automatically take the info and calculate the result.03:52
jhenncrimsun_: i want to record the sound output on my system03:52
MalachaiInstead of having to drag the crosshair down from the cell above it.03:52
epixnalioth: crimsun_ : do i let windows handle partitions?03:52
jhenncrimsun_: in non-compressed format03:52
naliothepix: nope.03:52
jono is there a way I can run mplayer on my laptop and have it display the video that is cat'ed from /dev/video1 on my desktop - so basically I want to cat /dev/video1 and view it on my laptop03:52
crimsun_jhenn: you can do that with arecord, too03:52
epixnalioth: so, create partitions then install windows?03:52
crimsun_jhenn: or the Sound Recorder03:53
skonSunn_T: not sure what the problem is, but it's probably your software or your burner.....there is a program called "DVD Burner" (download.com) which works well, maybe you could try03:53
Haukkarijono: eh? :)03:53
naliothepix: you can give windows 5gb and leave the rest free03:53
skonSunn_T: besides that, not quite sure...sorry....you could always request free CDs fromUbuntu03:53
Haukkarijono: like in ASCII letters?03:53
epixnalioth: i need a bit more.03:53
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naliothepix: you run your windows installer, tell it to use 5gb. let it install03:53
hanakjDapperDrake:  how do I get files from my desk to my lap on floppy?03:53
epixnalioth: ok.03:53
crimsun_jhenn: I'd first test with arecord to see if you can record. The tumbler driver is fragile in versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.1003:53
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epixnalioth: or more?03:54
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naliothepix: after that you can boot your linux installer and use the rest (linux will find it)03:54
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jonoHaukkari, I want to view the video from 'cat /dev/video1' on a seperate machine on the network03:54
intelikeyepix point is leave free 'unalocated' space on the disk03:54
Haukkarijono: use videolan client or share the video03:54
naliothepix: i havent run windows since 2000, i'd rather you not ran it at all. but you can give it what you like03:54
mcjerryjono why not use vlc to stream to laptop and use mplayer as client03:54
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epixnalioth: i would much rather do about 15 win and rest for linux. and I have a good reason to run linux. freebob isnt good enough, yet,03:54
epixnalioth: i made too many mistakes there.03:55
crimsun_mcjerry's suggestion is the better one, but make sure you use a backported vlc from Dapper03:55
jhenncrimsun_: sound recorder says "/dev/dsp" does not exist03:55
epixnalioth: And I have a good reason to run windows: Freebob isnt good enough, yet...*03:55
cyphaseis there a per-user cron type program?03:55
crimsun_jhenn: ls -l /dev/dsp*03:55
crimsun_cyphase: at03:55
jonoI have never used vlc - is it difficult to set it to stream?03:55
cyphaseyea, i've heard about that..03:55
Haukkarijono: I don't think so.. try. :)03:55
jhenncrimsun_: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-12-29 19:27 /dev/dsp03:56
cyphasei thought it was a system program though..03:56
cyphasethanx03:56
Malachaiso, nalioth, can you help me?03:56
Haukkaribut I'm going to bed now. ->03:56
crimsun_jono: no, but the Breezy version segfaults, which is why you want a backport.03:56
Malachaior Toma-?03:56
naliothMalachai: i know nothing about openoffice.03:56
epixtheres only one thing I want from my ubuntu partition, but It doesnt look like im going to get it...03:56
MalachaiAh.03:56
hanakjAnybody how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?03:56
lampshadeOk, I just installed server, ssh, and then changed teh sources and updated.  Now, I want to install FluxBox and VNC so that I can VNC into Fluxbox and run Xmms that way.  What should I do next?03:56
bur[n] erhanakj: drag & drop? ;)03:56
mcjerryjono, u can use the gui wizard or go to videolan.org and many stream command lines are there for reference03:56
crimsun_hanakj: pmount the floppy diskette, then copy the file over.03:56
epixhannakj: places: computer, floppy, drag n' drop!03:56
hanakjburner:  Drag to what?  My desktop is bare, i just went through the install of 5.10 of Ububtu.03:57
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jhenncrimsun_: any ideas about this?03:57
crimsun_jhenn: you could try using Dapper's ALSA03:58
GameHardHi03:58
bur[n] erhanakj: open "places -> computer"03:58
crimsun_jhenn: otherwise ask nalioth, because I believe he's using the tumbler driver, too03:58
epixhm, what is the file core and why is it a bomb?03:58
jonomcjerry, thanks03:58
intelikeyepix try sudo -03:58
GameHardI'm trying to resize an NTFS partition03:58
epixintelikey: i did :P03:58
GameHardwith gparted in the breezy live cd03:58
naliothGameHard: use qtparted03:58
hanakjburner: when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"03:59
intelikeyepix it give you a root shell ?03:59
epixintelikey: now i got a root shell03:59
intelikeyok try a mount from there03:59
jhennnalioth: you around?03:59
epixintelikey: no dice.04:00
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GameHardAnd it would ignore me when I try resizing04:00
epixintelikey: oper not supported04:00
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skonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355 <-- can someone help me with gparted04:00
naliothjhenn: yes i am.04:00
intelikeye2fsck /dev/hda#04:00
mcjerryCrimsun_: on this install of dapper, last upgrade to dbus and libdbus removed vlc ..... have compiled vlc from current source to get working....04:00
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mahanguhow can i see what broken paclkages i have04:01
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lampshadeok I'm installing xserver-xorg04:01
crimsun_mcjerry: you can do that, sure. I haven't fixed vlc yet because it's blocked on mozilla-dev issues on [!amd64] 04:01
cyphasecan you set who's allowed to use a program or not just by setting the /etc/programname.allow/deny files?04:01
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hanakjburner: when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"04:01
mcjerrymahangu: open synaptic then custom search broken04:01
cyphaseor does that program have to specifically support it?04:02
jhennnalioth: im trying to record the output of my system and sound recorder is saying ALSA device "default" does not exist.  I'm on a ibook as i believe you are.04:02
epixintelikey: superblock error04:02
epixintelikey: but, its reiser04:02
GameHardHello?04:02
epixintelikey: reiserfsck?04:03
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intelikeysure04:03
mcjerrycrimsun_  have amd64 but am runnin i386 due to w32 codec issues and vdr issues wth ffmpeg.....stil trying to get the time to go 64bit and workaround issues04:03
naliothjhenn: so what did you need to know?04:03
jhennnalioth: how to record the sound04:03
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naliothi don't record sounds on any of my puters, jhenn04:04
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epixintelikey: one corruption found04:04
Canoni'm having problems loading and configuring Xwindows using ubuntu64 on an AMD64 with an ATI Xpress200M though i can see the drivers for it04:04
epixintelikey: can be fixed only when running with --rebuild-tree04:04
Canonit's an HP zv600004:04
intelikeydo it04:04
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epixintelikey: it will take a while...04:05
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intelikeyyes it will04:05
DonLHi folks04:05
MalachaiHow do I make Ubuntu use my headphones/speakers instead of my Internal Speakers?04:05
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MalachaiI'm on a laptop with headphones, but people glance my way when they hear my notebook go 'beep!'04:06
alvarohey i need help04:06
skonMalachai: probably something wrong with your sound card?04:06
alvaroim trying to install bit torrent client04:06
Malachai?04:06
alvaroi do the wget command04:06
MalachaiWhat do you mean, skon?04:06
alvarobut when i try to go on with the next step:04:06
GTroyalvaro: I'd use apt-get04:06
epixintelikey: wait, can I even expand a partition then install windows or do i have to do it fresh?04:06
mcjerryMalachai: run alsamixer or gui mixer to make sure line/out not muted04:06
GTroyactually apt-get install04:06
alvarook04:06
mcjerryMalachai: what sound card you have?04:07
kqwhiphello. i need to manually change x display manager, since kmd which i use now seem to have a huge proglem (i get an error and then linux stops loading on bootup). how do i manually change x display manager to say, gdm ?04:07
alvarowhat do i type because i downloaded from:04:07
alvaro`Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz2'04:07
skonMalachai: if your internal speakers are beeping, it probably means your wave sound is not configured correctly04:07
MalachaiCreative Sound Blaster.04:07
Malachaiskon, how could I fix it?04:07
pashawkqwhip,   did it ever work  or is this fresh install?04:07
GTroyI'd try apt-get install azureus04:07
Malachaimcjerry, my line/out is muted.04:07
GTroyand don't worry about the tarball04:07
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GameHardI have the same problem as this guy, only I'm trying to shrink a NTFS partition: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76372.html04:08
GameHardoops04:08
skonMalachai: no straight answers, if it's not autodetected, you'll have to do some research on how to install it yourself....search the Ubuntu Wiki for your sound card then search google04:08
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GameHardThe bold was an accident04:08
alvaroi get this:04:08
alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$ apt-get install azureus04:08
alvaroE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:08
alvaroE: Unable to lock the list directory04:08
pashaw!pastebin04:08
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:08
Toma-!sudo04:08
skonalvaro: sudo in front04:08
kqwhippashaw: it's a fresh install of kubuntu, and it worked the first time, but i doesnt work now. i have gnome installed aswell though, so switching to gdm shouln't be impossible04:08
xiaogilwhat's wrong in apache2 so that firefox tries to download php scripts ?04:08
Malachaiskon, I get sound from other sources...I'm listening to the radio now....04:08
intelikeyepix the only thing i was conserned about right now was you saving the data that you felt critical on the reiser partition    i was not really concerned about the way you approach the rebuild of your system.....  on that point you have options the best of which is probably blank the disk and start from scratch.04:09
alvaroE: Package azureus has no installation candidate04:09
skonMalachai: you can play wav files?04:09
MalachaiDunno.04:09
MalachaiLet me find one.04:09
pashawkqwhip,   you cant get to the login screen  to login to a diff desktop?04:09
epixintelikey: yeup. and is there a way to fully back the system up, or do i pick indiviual data files?04:09
GameHard?04:09
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pashawGameHard,   is it saying ntfs busy?04:10
intelikeyepix i'd pick the configs that you have customized and files in your /home/dir04:10
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intelikeyepix back those up and 'let the dead bury their dead'04:11
kqwhippashaw: no, i dont get the login screen. when linux is loading, x starts and i get a graphical error window that kdmgreet (i think) crashed. when i click close, x closes, and linux stops loading04:11
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FarrisGDoes anyone know why vino-server eats up so much CPU?04:11
Malachaiskon: Yes.04:11
naliothubotu: tell alvaro about azureus04:12
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hanakj_Can anyone help a newbie here?  Trying hard to become a "not newbie"04:12
kqwhippashaw: i figure if i can change login screen to gdm manually in some file (i'm on the live cd now), maybe i could make it work04:12
BxLis there any "google talk" for ubuntu?04:12
KyralGAIM04:12
naliothhanakj_: just ask your question04:12
intelikeyepix main reason if you have data corruption and you backup the whole system you save the errors also.04:12
KyralGAIM can connect04:12
AndrewXBxL: Google Talk uses Jabber I believe04:12
hanakj_Anybody how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?04:12
KyralIt does04:12
Kyralthats how04:12
hanakj_ when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"04:12
BxLoh04:12
BxLthanks.04:12
HrdwrBoBAndrewX: yes04:12
naliothBxL: use any jabber client, and follow the intstructions at gtalk.com (or w/e)04:12
epixintelikey: grr, it mounted, but there is only one dir, lost+found and it is full of stuff that I dont understand :P tons of files named by numbers04:12
DonLBxL: Funny you mention Google talk. Just trying it out04:12
BxL;)04:13
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skonMalachai: sorry, not quite sure how to fix....maybe try System:Preferences:Sound04:14
DonLThis is the first time I've used IRC on gaim. Didn't know I could. Interesting04:14
pashawkqwhip,   try  recovery mode    login and type   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:14
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GameHardpashaw: no, I click apply after telling it shrink, it flashes a window, then it goes back to the original partition sizes04:14
Malachaiskon: If I do that, and disable the system bell, I get no beep.04:14
pashawkqwhip,    use sudo04:14
hanakj_nalioth: how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?  When I click on floppy drive I get "given UDI not mountable volume".04:14
Malachaiskon: I want the beep, I just want it through the headphones =\04:15
Malachaiskon: Thanks anyway.04:15
psusihanakj, my guess is the floppy is corrupt/unformatted04:15
pashawGameHard,   you can try using knoppix04:15
hanakj_nalioth: I will refomat in Ubuntu04:15
alvaroubotu i messaged you04:15
ubotualvaro: What?04:15
mcjerrykqwhip: did you figure out how to change default-display-manager?04:15
kqwhippashaw: recovery mode? you mean booting from the hard drive? how do i get into recovery mode04:16
skonalvar: ubotu is a robot :-D04:16
epixalvaro: ubotu is a uBOTu04:16
kqwhipmcjerry: no, still googleing ;)04:16
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alvarolol what is that :P04:16
intelikeyepix mmmm maybe ' for this in `ls -1` ;do if [ `file $this | grep -c text` = 1 ]  ;then mv $this $this.txt ;fi ;done '   and see how many text (possabally configuration) files there are.    but that is only if you must save....04:16
GameHardpashaw: no, I click apply after telling it shrink, it flashes a window, then it goes back to the original partition sizes04:16
hanakj_nalioth: I will refomat in Ubuntu with the thourough option04:16
alvarowell, i tried installing azureus04:16
alvaroand i get this:04:16
skonalvaro: it's so we can automatically tell kiddies how to use linux with certain commands....doesn't actually talk04:16
pashawkqwhip,   ??? you did install this to the hard drive, right      grub menu  pick a recovery kernel04:17
alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$ dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb04:17
alvarodpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege04:17
alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$04:17
psusiGameHard, you are doing this from the livecd right?04:17
QMarioHow do I make a VCD?04:17
epixintelikey: its not worth it man. Ill just remake em04:17
mcjerrykqwhip: nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager and see what is listed......04:17
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intelikeyepix i hate it for you but it looks like you just got a lesson in "never do this in linux"  how not to's  ;/04:18
QMario!vcd04:18
ubotuQMario: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:18
QMario!yes04:18
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, qmario?04:18
epixintelikey: the only complex one that took manual work was ndiswrapper... and im very good at setting that up now :P (gimme about 1:30min)04:18
kqwhipkqwhip, sorry if im very clueless, but how do i get into the grub menu? im didn't choose to install it, but maybe it comes with ubuntu/kubuntu by default?04:18
QMario!botsnack04:18
ubotu:)04:18
xiaogilwhere to change the mime type to add php in apache2 on ubuntu ?04:18
epix!poo04:18
ubotuepix: I don't know, could you explain it?04:18
intelikeyepix ok we can probably find it.04:18
skonalvaro: use sudo in front04:18
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epixintelikey: its fine.04:18
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intelikeydo the command i posted above ^  and we'll grep for that file04:19
psusikqwhip, turn on the computer.... grub gives a menu of choices and times out after 3 seconds, choosing the default04:19
epixintelikey: and, my homedirectory was backed up (well, the important things (like my quake3 paks))04:19
kqwhip/usr/bin/kdm04:19
alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$ sudo dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb04:19
alvarodpkg: error processing azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb (--install):04:19
alvaro cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:19
skonHow do I find a list of what ubotu can tell people?04:19
kqwhipmcjerry: looks like we're getting closer here :) it says "/usr/bin/kdm". now, do you think it's enough to change kdm to gdm?04:19
mcjerrykqwhip: if gdm is installed, change to gdm and restart x session04:20
hanakj_Refomat with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.04:20
intelikeyepix siriously we can find that needle in that hay stack if you like.04:20
DonLMust run. Good night people04:21
kqwhippsusi: not on my computer. i've used ubuntu/kubuntu for six months, never seen it (i've used grub before though)04:21
naliothalvaro: you need to be in the same directory04:21
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QMarioIntelikey, heh. :)04:21
naliothubotu: tell alvaro about cli04:21
intelikeyQMario04:21
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QMarioIntelikey, huh?04:21
psusikqwhip, it's there.... you just have to catch it04:21
hanakj_Refomat with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.  Am now using second floppy.04:21
kqwhipmcjerry: it's installed. i will try it out. thanks a million04:21
epixintelikey: [0: command not found. i prolly made a typo :P04:21
kqwhippsusi: ok, i'll look harder this time :) thank you04:21
kqwhippashaw: thank you for the help :)04:22
psusikqwhip, try pressing ESC repeatedly while booting up04:22
intelikeyor i may have.  let me re post it for you.04:22
kqwhippsusi, i will04:22
kqwhipsee you in 10 minutes04:22
mcjerrykqwhip: goodluck,04:22
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mahangumcjerry, custom search broken?04:23
mahangu(sorry was away)04:23
pilgrimHi. If I do  "sudo /etc/init.d/hplip stop04:23
pilgrim" this will stop the hplip service. How do I make it so it doesn't even start at boot time?04:23
hanakj_Refomat 2nd floppy(ex2) with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.04:24
mcjerrymahangu: open synaptic package manager and click custom button then you will see broken option in left window04:24
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intelikeyepix ' for this in `ls -1` ;do if [ "`file $this | grep -c text`" = "1" ]  ;then if grep -ie'ndiswarp' $this ;then mv $this ndis$this.txt ;fi ;fi ;done '04:24
pilgrimhanakj_, what error do you get?04:24
mahangumcjerry, thanks04:24
intelikeybrb04:24
hanakj_When I click on floppy drive I get "given UDI not mountable volume".04:24
epixintelikey: nope. im just going to rewrite it. thanks for your help anyway.04:25
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hanakj_has happend with two floppies04:25
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pilgrimhanakj_, I had some experience with that error (although it was for DVD) and I think it means media corrupt. I _think_.04:25
psusihanakj_, you are running breezy?04:25
hanakj_running 5.1004:26
pashawhanakj_,   type cat /etc/fstab    does your floopy line look like mine04:26
pashawhanakj_, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       004:26
pilgrimhanakj_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html04:26
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lawrencehi04:27
hanakj_pashaw:  it looks like yours04:28
intelikeybsoI04:28
pashawhanakj_,  floppy  in use terminal an type    mount /dev/fd0  <thats a zero04:28
intelikeyblue screen of INSTALL04:28
psusihanakj_, open a console and try mount /media/floppy004:28
lawrencecan anyone help me with installing an usb wireless?04:29
intelikey!wifi04:29
ubotuI heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:29
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alvaroi can't i nstall azureus :(04:29
psusimy gox 4x cd-rws are slow....04:29
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intelikeythere is a howto ^ there lawrence, if it doesnt help ask again.04:29
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pashawpsusi,   pashaw!  my first was 2x04:30
lawrenceI"m trying this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4643204:30
jhennhow do i record the sound on my computer?04:30
hanakj_pashaw:  that did it, how can I make this mounting happen automatically on bootup?04:30
naliothalvaro: read the info ubotu sent you04:30
alvaroi read it04:30
psusipashaw, I had an original 1x cd-r back in the day... I forgot how painfull it can be ;)04:30
lawrenceit's made by microsoft04:30
alvarobut still the terminal ain't comprehending what i command04:30
psusiand I thikn this is going even slower because I'm trying to write to the disk in packet mode04:31
pashawhanakj_,   good question  your fstab is working so your  shortcut isnt04:31
epixpashaw: heh, i have a 4x burner!04:31
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Ryani need help. i just installed ubuntu 5.10 in my compaq presario v2000 laptop w/ windows xp but after installing, the GUI dosn't load up. it says that X Server falied to load... what would i do? i just have the command line with no GUI. pls help. thanks04:31
alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$ cd04:31
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alvaroalvaro@alvaro:~$ sudo dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz204:31
alvarodpkg: error processing azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz2 (--install):04:31
alvaro cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:31
alvaroErrors were encountered while processing:04:31
xiaogilhow to manually remove the phpmyadmin package ?04:31
pilgrimHow do I disable services?  (the System>Administration>Services method doesn't show everything, such as hdparm).04:31
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naliothalvaro: you have been sent all the info you need. hundreds of people before you have installed azureus using it04:32
naliothalvaro: please heed the /topic and don't paste in here, use a pastebin04:32
intelikeypilgrim the ub way is with rc.<tabkey>04:32
Ryani need help. i just installed ubuntu 5.10 in my compaq presario v2000 laptop w/ windows xp but after installing, the GUI dosn't load up. it says that X Server falied to load... what would i do? i just have the command line with no GUI. pls help. thanks04:32
hanakj_pashaw:  didnt understand that, ?04:32
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psusialvaro, that's because you do not have nor do you install a .tar.bz2, you should have and be trying to install a .deb04:33
naliothubotu: tell Ryan about xcfg04:33
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intelikeypilgrim it can be done in the gui under system i believe also04:33
pilgrimintelikey, first, waht is "ub" ?04:33
naliothRyan: run the command ubotu is telling you and choose the VESA driver04:33
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intelikeyabreavition for ubuntu04:33
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pashawhanakj_,   im not a pro at gnome and the shortcuts     im used to the CLI04:33
alvarowhy do i have a 'tar.bz2' downloaded04:33
kqwhipmcjerry: just wanted to log back in and tell you that everything works fine now. thank you.04:33
naliothalvaro: if you read the info ubotu sent you, you won't have any trouble04:34
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intelikeyekkk misspelled that didn't i04:34
naliothubotu: tell alvaro about azureus04:34
intelikeybrb04:34
psusialvaro, because you didn't follow the directions04:34
evil-doerim trying the live cd on my new laptop here, its saying it cant start x because of no framebuffer?04:34
hanakj_pashaw:  thanks for the help,  appreciate your time & effort.  Take care.04:34
jhennhow do i record the output of my computer?04:34
maskdjhenn: what output?04:34
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Gersitarneed help trying to setup microsoft wireless usb04:34
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jhennmaskd: the output of the cd player04:34
epixWindows formats slow.04:34
jhennmaskd: don't ask why, but i just want to record the output04:35
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jhennmaskd: into wav04:35
emptystaplerI have my current installation mounted on an IDE drive, hda4 and hda5 (swap). i would like to transfer my entire system to a new drive, an SATA (/dev/sda). if i make a partition setup on sda which matches hda (one partition for / and one for swap), what do i need to do besides copying it and adding a grub entry to point to sda1?04:35
psusiepix, if you tell it to... choose quick format04:35
pashawevil-doer,   when it first boots   hit F2 F3 F4  and find the option to use framebuffer04:35
Wilf!synaptic04:35
ubotufrom memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:35
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Fran_Mnthi04:35
Fran_Mnti'm from spain, and i don't write a good english sorry, so, i try.04:36
evil-doeri did expert install, i chose framebuffer04:36
pashawevil-doer,   you said liveCD     which is it04:36
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evil-doerexpert boot, whatever it is04:36
evil-doerexpert options04:36
nalioth!es04:36
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:36
evil-doeri dont remember what it was called04:36
psusiemptystapler, copy all files with either tar or cp -a, and install grub on the new drive... do this from a livecd or rescue mode04:36
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Fran_Mntgracias for ubuntu-es04:36
Fran_Mnt:)04:36
evil-doerboot-expert maybe04:36
pashawevil-doer,   follow what i said above youll find the freamebuffer option youll have to boot with04:37
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emptystaplerpsusi: will grubbing from the already bootable IDE not work?04:37
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evil-doerill look.04:37
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psusiemptystapler, without any changes it will continue to boot the system on the old drive... it isn't going to use the new one by magic04:38
Ryanhow do i reconfigure the x server so i can see the GUI?04:38
Unityhow can i make an iso from a cdrom? cat /dev/hda gives an input/output error04:38
psusiemptystapler, do you want to remove the old drive, or just boot from the new one and use the old one for space?04:38
emptystaplerpsusi: i know... i mean, if i were to add an entry in grub to boot sda04:38
naliothRyan: i told you how04:38
naliothRyan: run the command ubotu is telling you and choose the VESA driver04:38
pashawevil-doer,    if this laptop is older than 3yrs  use  acpi=off and noapic   also04:38
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naliothubotu: tell Ryan about xcfg04:39
psusiUnity, use dd04:39
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emptystaplerpsusi: I am going to keep the old drive (it is primarily used for WIndows, with the linux install at the tail end, which i will reclaim once the transfer is complete)04:39
jhennhow do i record the output of my computer?04:39
Fran_MntI install ubuntu-server, when is full installed and I'm in the prompt I don't have eth0 active, I always have to do it manually. How I can do this automatic in the boot of the system? -- Sorry my bad english.04:39
evil-doerits brand new04:39
naliothubotu: tell jhenn about repeat04:39
pashawevil-doer,    then  you dont wont need them04:39
croutonFran_Mnt: Install dhclient?04:39
evil-doerdammit, i cant even reboot it04:39
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Unitypsusi, `dd /dev/hda > cd.iso` ?04:39
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evil-doerpower button is doing nothing and of course theres no reset button04:40
psusiemptystapler, well in that case you will need to reinstall grub on the new drive... otherwise it will die when you blow away the linux partitions and reclaim it for windows04:40
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Fran_Mntok, i go to try it thanks :)04:40
pashawevil-doer,    since its liveCD   jusrt hold power button down for 6 secs04:40
croutonunity: dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/cd.iso ?04:40
psusiUnity, you should man dd for a while... but: dd if=/dev/hda of=cd.iso should do it04:40
evil-doeroh i didnt know about holding the button down, thanks04:40
emptystaplerpsusi: gotcha. i will do the copy and see if i can't get grub kicking on the new drive04:40
croutonscore!04:40
Unitycrouten and psusi: thx04:40
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evil-doersorry, first laptop..04:41
thoegerHi - got a totally different question... Gdesklets kill X. Any idea what to do about it? I like them...04:41
psusievil-doer, that applies to all PCs...04:41
psusievil-doer, not just laptops04:41
cristophinehey guys, is there any way to remove applications like evolution without having to uninstall the desktop?04:41
sally_using cfdisk I spliced off a small section of my swap partition (dont ask why - just an experiment) and that made my root partition change from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda7  I updated menu.lst and /etc/fstab to reflect this, ran update-grub but when I boot I get grub error 17.  I am currently in the system via rescue disk, but how I do I restore my boot loader04:41
psusicristophine, removing ubuntu-desktop won't actually remove anything... that package doesn't contain anything itself, it just depends on the others to provide a convienient way to install them all04:42
Unitycrouten psusi: dd gave an input/output error reading /dev/hda. waybe the cd is messed up?04:42
cristophineic, thx psusi :)04:42
Ryansorry nalioth. after typing  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", do i need to do something else? i dont know anything about programming. thanks again04:42
thoegerchristophine: the desktop-package is a convenience package, og meta-package. It's safe to remove AFAIK. Never gave me any trouble anyway04:42
thoegerOops too late04:42
evil-doerso.. i see how to disable framebuffer, do i want to do that?04:43
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psusisally_, reinstall grub04:43
thoegerBut again: Any ideas out there why gdesklets kill Xorg?04:43
psusiUnity, looks like it04:43
franky123Ryan: are you trying to use a new monitor, because i just remember using dpkg reconfig for that04:43
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franky123Ryan: just out of curiosity04:43
pashawevil-doer,   if you didnt last time   then try it   per your error04:43
psusiUnity, I mean... it worked part way through right?04:43
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Unitypsusi, nope, it ran for  0.000517 seconds04:44
sally_psusi, update-grub doesn't do that?04:44
psusiUnity, ohh... hrm...04:44
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pashawthoeger,  you using any of the fancy probes ones   or just standard disk/network ones04:44
psusisally_, no... that just updates your menu.lst to present choices to boot into the kernels it finds04:44
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Ryanfranky123: im not using it for a new monitor... i just installed ubuntu in my laptop w/ windows xp but the X server fails to load so i do not have a gui...04:44
Unitypsusi, maybe its the drive cause its not ejecting04:44
psusiUnity, ohh... hrm....04:44
thoeger'I was using some battery/disk/memory monitors04:45
pashawthoeger,   maybe its one of them    i only use the simple ones   so just guessing04:45
alvarolol i still can't install this thing04:45
thoegerHm...04:45
Unitypsusi, i'm gonna copy the contents into a folder and iso the folder, would that work?04:46
emptystaplerpsusi: i am getting some errors copying some crap in /proc04:46
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alvaroi installed those 'java' programs as it says, the only one i couldn't install was j2re1.404:46
thoegerpashaw, Maybe I should just remove my .gdesklets dir?04:46
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emptystaplerpsusi: also, some recusive issues (i.e., the copy trying to copy stuff it just copied as it recurses into the mount's directory itself)04:46
psusiUnity, well, it will "work" in that if you are able to copy all the files off, it will build a new iso image with those files in it04:46
pashawthoeger,   as a last ditch sure    but be nice to find which one it is huh?   :P04:46
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alvaroit still says it can't find package, and the damn package is in the home directory04:46
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psusiemptystapler, ohh, you need to not copy other filesystems04:47
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Sr-Petahhi all04:47
emptystaplerpsusi: d'oh04:47
emptystapler-x?04:47
psusiemptystapler, use cp -ax04:47
pilgrimSo noone know this... how to disable services using non-gui interface (because it doesn't show all services)?04:48
thoegerpashaw; Too late... don't wanna go through 5 restarts of Xorg, so I wiped it. Fun thing is; it worked without trouble for a while...04:48
Sr-Petahi need support with my nvidia and my breezy04:48
pashawthoeger,   lol04:48
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Sr-Petahcan't run 3d accel.04:48
Sr-Petahi install the lastest nvidia drivers04:48
pashaw!tell Sr-Petah about nvidia04:48
thoegerpashaw; if I suddenly leave the channel now you'll know why...04:48
pashawthoeger,   ill call 91104:49
Sr-Petahtnx!04:49
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Unitypsusi, not working =( thx though and ttyl04:49
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Sr-Petahnow i read04:49
emptystaplerpsusi: and no linux/gnome configurations will be expecting /dev/hda4 or 5 to exist?04:49
Sr-Petah;)04:49
GTroydoes ubuntu have support for centrino?04:49
Sr-Petahsee u pipol!04:49
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psusiemptystapler, only place that should is /etc/fstab04:50
Random_Sindrom78ty6y75gfdfdgfsf04:50
binarydigitGTroy: do you mean in terms of running wireless and speedstep and everything04:50
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Random_Sindromyyyyyyyyy04:50
GTroyyeah04:50
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binarydigityes it does04:50
Random_Sindromhahaha04:50
Random_Sindromkkkkkk04:50
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pashawintelikey,    hes mentioned in bugzilla under troll04:52
intelikey:)04:52
evil-doerred background this time, interesting04:52
intelikeyroot04:52
pashawevil-doer,    did it work?04:53
evil-doernope04:53
evil-doerfailed again04:53
pashawevil-doer,    same error?04:53
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evil-doerlooking04:53
alvarois there one of these wikis for installing realplayer?04:54
evil-doerer, signal 11, server aborting04:54
emptystaplerhow can I tell if copy is still copying? it claims it is, but the disk space of my destination isn't decreasing04:54
pashaw!tell alvaro about realplayer04:54
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Net_Holerserver novis.ptnet.org04:55
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aeon17xwhoa, that's a big netsplit04:56
aeon17xif that's what I think it is04:56
pashawaeon17x,   thats a small one04:56
skoneither that or maybe people switched to BSD all of a sudden04:56
aeon17xoh snap04:56
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emptystaplerpsusi: i think my copy operation hung04:57
pashawwow   they normally come back by now04:57
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alvarois there a wiki for installing Runtime environment java thingy?04:58
pashawemptystapler,   what are you copying?04:58
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psusiemptystapler, why do you think that?04:58
emptystaplerpashaw: i am copying a partition to another04:58
pashawhmm  havent seen a thingy04:58
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pashawemptystapler,   large files will appear hung04:58
emptystaplerpsusi: well, disk space of the destination is not decreasing whatsoever, and the process is using no cpu time04:58
TokenBadI know going to get tired of this question..but what is command to handle bz2 files?04:58
pashawemptystapler,   large file copies will do that04:58
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psusiemptystapler, well, it shouldn't be using any cpu time just to copy files... you are watching df in another window?04:59
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emptystaplerpashaw: the partition is only 2gb, i can't imagine what file would be that large in a near stock ubuntu install04:59
emptystaplerpsusi: i am df'ing in another term04:59
pl_icehey, need a hand just killed my file /etc/rc (don't ask ...) whan can i do? ...04:59
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psusiemptystapler, hrm.... odd... any errors in dmesg?04:59
aeon17xemptystapler: maybe DMA isn't enabled on  that drive?04:59
evil-doerthink ill see if mandriva works04:59
pashawTokenBad,   no you wont     use   man tar    its all in there -j05:00
emptystaplerDMA is enabled on the IDE drive (source), and the destination is an SATA which i have not done anything except plug in05:00
psusiwell, are you sure it isn't just slow?  you saw it progressing, and then it stopped?05:00
pashawevil-doer,   try knoppix also  if you want a liveCD05:00
emptystapleri see nothing strange in dmesg05:00
evil-doeris there a mandriva live cd?05:00
pashawevil-doer,   not a clue05:01
psusihrm... that is weird....05:01
intelikeyevil yes05:01
emptystaplerpsusi: hopefully it's slow. i didn't think to check progression until i mentioned it seeming to have hung05:01
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evil-doertheir site makes it very difficult to find05:01
intelikeyevil-doer i recomend the knoppix live cd.05:01
psusiemptystapler, you did reformat, and start over using the -x option right?05:01
emptystaplerbut i was noticing a performance degradation when it first started05:01
evil-doeroh its called "move"05:01
emptystaplerand now everything is just.... normal05:02
intelikeyyes move = live05:02
emptystaplerpsusi: i rm -rf'd the partition before starting over with -ax05:02
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psusihrm.... can you see what file cp is hung on?05:02
emptystapleri don't have verbose output on05:02
emptystaplermaybe i should have done that05:02
emptystaplerthe last output was: cp: reading `proc/sysrq-trigger': Invalid argument05:02
pl_icecan someone pls check/give to pastebin file /etc/rc (file) if it exists... pls05:02
emptystapleri will cancel, format, and start over with verbose output enabled05:03
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pl_icepls05:03
psusiemptystapler, if you usex -x it should NOT be trying to copy anything in /proc05:03
psusicopying things in /proc would tend to screw the pooch05:03
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emptystaplersudo cp -ax * /media/new05:03
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emptystaplerwas the command05:03
emptystaplerfrom /05:04
psusiemptystapler, don't use *, use /05:04
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psusiemptystapler, when you use * you specifically include /proc... / means start there, and pick up all children NOT on another filesystem ( like proc ) when you use the -x option05:04
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Mr-Petahre05:04
emptystaplerAhh!05:04
intelikeyrecursive into subdir is not desireable05:04
Mr-Petahi read the how to...05:05
Mr-Petahfor nvidia driver acce.05:05
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pl_icecan someone pls check/give to pastebin file /etc/rc (file) if it exists... pls05:05
emptystaplerpsusi: running again with / as the source, did -v too for kicks05:05
Mr-Petahbut...05:05
intelikeyyou end up cp'ing what you just cp'd05:05
Mr-Petahdont work correctly05:05
pashawpl_ice,   easy big fella im slow    here>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/636005:05
jhenndoes anyone know how to record sound from the cd player?05:05
Mr-Petah(sry 4 my english)05:05
psusiemptystapler, after emptying the destination again right?05:05
pashawpl_ice,   thats rc2.d05:05
emptystaplerpsusi: correct05:05
emptystaplerpsusi: this seems much more promising!05:06
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Mr-Petahi have some problems with #ubuntu-es, but need support in spanish....05:06
intelikeyjhenn sound-juicer05:06
pl_icepashaw thnx, tried to put linux onto ipod, but i over wrote my main file intead in ipods os :)05:06
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Mr-Petahany people speak spanish?05:06
jhennintelikey: no like record from the output of cd player directly to wave05:06
emptystaplerwhat bittorrent client do you guys/girls recommend?05:06
cafuego!es05:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:06
Mr-Petahemptystapler, rufus05:07
intelikeyyes05:07
Skiingseanhow would I configure vnc to use the same kde session that is loaded on startup by default? in otherwords i don't want to create a new X session05:07
psusiemptystapler, I have also used a tar pipeline for things like that... tar the source piped to an untar to the destination... that way you can do things like --exclude specific paths05:07
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emptystaplerand i should mention, i dislike azeureus05:07
EpsilonHello05:07
psusiemptystapler, bit tornado05:07
Mr-Petahcafuego, i have some problems with the op manager05:07
emptystaplerpsusi: neat05:07
intelikeyjhenn also audacity05:07
pl_icepashaw thnx, all is cool :)05:07
intelikeymaybe even vlc05:07
jhennintelikey: audacity is giving me errors05:07
pashawpl_ice,  cool05:07
emptystaplerpsusi: that sounds like it'd be useful for a simple backup script05:08
EpsilonCan someone help me?05:08
emptystaplerare there any torrent clients out there that support dbus?05:08
Mr-Petahbye ..05:08
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intelikeycdripper05:08
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WilfEpsilon, slection here. Don't ask to ask, just ask your questions. someone may not answer straight away, just ask until they do.05:08
pashawEpsilon,  i cant mind im a horrible mind reader05:09
jhennintelikey: i don't wan to rip i want record the actual sound of the cd playing05:09
Wilferr, just wait until theyt do.05:09
Wilfsorry :<05:09
pashawEpsilon,   ask your question  :P05:09
Epsilonok05:09
psusiemptystapler, indeed... I have a server at work set up to run tar as a cronjob for backups to a second hard drive...05:09
intelikeyjhenn record05:09
naliothEpsilon: without you asking a question, no we cannot05:09
emptystaplerthe only thing from kde i miss is dcop :-/05:09
cafuegojhenn: Why?05:09
intelikeyone of the sox tools05:09
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jhenncafuego: why not?05:09
intelikeyjhenn record05:10
cafuegojhenn: Loss of quality versus ripping.05:10
emptystaplercopy complete! let me make sure everything is kosher in fstab....05:10
EpsilonWhen I connected my mp3 player, It says i have no music, but I do, and the "media" folder is there as it was on Windows XP,  how to I add music now?05:10
pashawpsusi,   ahh i use http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/05:10
psusiemptystapler, tar's new incremental snapshot feature is very nice... you can do nifty multi tiered backups with it... like a full monthly, then a weekly, and daily... to restore, you just need the last monthly, weekly, and daily... not every daily since the last full05:10
jhenncafuego: im comparing audio qualities if you must know05:10
emptystaplerpsusi: that is very neat05:11
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TokenBadhmm..how come everytime I try to load a theme..it tells me invalid format05:11
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pashawEpsilon,    what mp3 player?05:11
intelikeycafuego rather than explain why "NOT" to do it that way, how would you go about recording audio from say a tape output inputed into line 1 ?05:11
eobanbuhm did we just merge from a split or something05:11
EpsilonSanDisc05:11
emptystaplerpsusi: okay, i fixed up fstab05:11
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pashawyeah split that happened  10mins ago05:11
psusipashaw, use an lvm snapshot then rsync the snapshot device you mean?05:12
Gersitarlawrence@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig wlan0 mode managed05:12
GersitarError for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :05:12
Gersitar    SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.05:12
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emptystaplerpsusi: what should i do as far as UNinstalling grub from the old drive?05:12
psusipashaw, or just periodically rsync all files?05:12
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pashawpsusi,   no  rsync  then snapshot rotating script   with  tape backups also  of course05:12
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psusiemptystapler, you don't need to... blow away the linux partitions ( this will clobber most of grub ) and reinstall grub on the new drive, which should fix the MBR on the first drive to load the rest of grub from the second05:13
pashawpsusi,   everynight    80G off various servers gets rsync to a 160G drive05:13
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emptystaplerpsusi: okay. i want to keep the old drive's partitions intact until i have confidence in the new one05:13
pashawpsusi,   read the link i posted its  pretty powerful05:13
emptystaplerpsusi: so i'll give it a shot05:13
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emptystaplerbrb! (i hope!)05:14
pashawEpsilon,   sounds like your just doing a usb mount       could you just copy mp3s over using windows  or did you need extra software05:15
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psusipashaw, ohh, you mean just that stuff where you rsync to to a dated directory ( one for each daily backup ) only each new day, it hard links the unchanged files to yesterday's dir?05:16
teprrrhmm, btw, does exa in xorg 7.0 make it possible to use radeon with composite?05:16
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pashawpsusi,   never 2 copies of the same thing   but they can extend back for weeks05:16
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psusipashaw, so it looks like you have a seperate directory for each daily backup, but it only needs as much space as it takes to store the changed files?05:16
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Nothingmananyone here know how to bypass a SCSI card so I can boot from CD (but still use the SCSI drives)?05:16
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pashawpsusi,   sorry i ment never 2 copies of the same file  just uses links05:16
EpsilonOk, Mp3 player is all good05:17
Epsilonthanks ne ways05:17
psusipashaw, yea... I've read about that... still not sure what to think of it... not sure I really see the point05:17
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EpsilonPeace05:17
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pashawpsusi,   try it sometime  its  neat05:17
psusiwhy is that any better than a daily backup with tar? especially since that can go on a tape or something, rsync can't?05:17
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psusiit's a neat idea in theory.. I just don't really see the practical application?05:17
mrgobyhi all, having problems burning cds05:17
mrgobyusing breezy05:18
mrgobyand gnomebaker05:18
mrgobyi think it might be a permissions problem05:18
intelikeyNothingman in the bios set it to boot cd first05:18
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mrgobythe disk gets written filenames and directory names, but none of the data is written , so the cd just has names on it with no data in the files05:18
Nothingmanintelikey, it is05:19
mrgobycdrecord output complains of not having perms i think05:19
mrgobybut i am in cdrom group05:19
psusipashaw, unless... I guess it would be nice because you could easily browse through the history of the filesystem and pull out something from several days back... easier than pulling the file from a tar05:19
pashawpsusi,  ok  say backup is 2G tar file      3 backups need 6G total space right?   with  snapshot    if no files changed  its still 2G for all 3 days05:19
Nothingmanintelikey: the SCSI card is separate, not even mentioned in the bios, just takes over boot on its own05:19
mrgobyis there any wierdness in ubuntu's permissions for these things, i am new to sudo environments05:19
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pashawpsusi,   its the space saving that makes it neat05:19
psusipashaw, if you are using daily backups, they will be much smaller05:20
intelikeyNothingman the card bios needs disabled    may ^A  for access05:20
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psusipashaw, in fact, they will use less space than rsync because the tar is compressed05:20
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Nothingmanjust Ctrl+A?05:20
psusipashaw, most of the daily tars on my server are only ~100 kb05:21
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intelikeyafter the normal bios scans are over Nothingman press ctrl+A  and see if you can get into the scsi card bios05:21
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mrgobyi get this when i try to read the disk05:21
mrgobyDec 29 23:21:19 localhost kernel: [4572978.890000]  attempt to access beyond end of device05:21
mrgobyDec 29 23:21:19 localhost kernel: [4572978.890000]  hdd: rw=0, want=4976, limit=120805:21
pashawpsusi,  well heck use floppies then  if its that small  :P      this is for large file backups  huge space saving   tar cant touch it05:22
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psusipashaw, that's what I'm saying... if you tar properly, it will save more space than rsync05:22
intelikeyNothingman ^A is only a guess based on the scsi card i have05:22
PeteyPablopashaw, what is?05:22
psusipashaw, daily tars don't save any unchanged files either... and the files that did change get compressed... rsync doesn't compress05:22
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pashawpsusi,   if 1 of your files/tapes get lost you can lose that entire set05:23
Corrupterok, this is kind of a wierd question, i just got a set of Logitech 5.1 speakers, but for some reason, i only hear sound out of the 2 front speakers, does anyone know why?05:24
psusipashaw, well... yea... but you loose everything the rsync way if the hard drive dies too ;)05:24
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mrgobyusing alsa Corrupter ?05:24
mrgobyalsamixer has levels up for all outs ?05:24
pashawpsusi, can i pm you    we are a bit off topic05:24
psusipashaw, and with tar, you can make the daily backups contain all changed files since the last full, rather than just since yesterday... that way if the backup from 3 days ago is bad, who cares?  you only need last night's05:25
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psusisure05:25
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naliothpashaw: if y'all join #ubuntu-offtopic more folks can lurk and learn05:25
Corruptermrgoby: as far as i know, i know that i have a Creative Soundblaster 24 bit card, it auto-installed it when i started up my system05:25
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fatehazeum, how can I define the root password on a fresh install?05:25
cafuegopsusi: But what id last night's is corrupted?05:25
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PeteyPablofatehaze, you don't use sudo05:25
mrgobypopopen a terminal and type alsamixer05:25
PeteyPablo!teel fatehaze about rootsudo05:25
ubotuPeteyPablo: I don't know, could you explain it?05:25
PeteyPablo!tell fatehaze about rootsudo05:25
pashawnalioth,    thx   will do05:26
nalioth!tell fatehaze about root05:26
fatehazeit says it can't look up ubuntu via hostname, assumedly because my wifi isn't working correctly05:26
epixwhat the heck. linux autodetects everything. im so used to that. i boot windows and its ugly and has no sound!05:26
Corrupterany idea's?05:26
mrgobyyou might have to unmute the other channels manually05:26
epix:P05:26
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Corruptermrgoby i have every channel unmuted05:26
naliothfatehaze: that is not a wireless problem05:26
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emptystaplerpsusi: errmm... well, i couldn't figure out rescue mode05:27
naliothfatehaze: you'll need to get something to write with05:27
emptystaplerpsusi: i booted the install cd with "rescue", and it just dumped me into a prompt at the partition of my choosing05:27
fatehazei've got notepad05:27
mrgobysometimes you have to do it manually , alternatively , you might have to have the right options passed to the module in modules.conf to ensure it enables the channels in the module, but i'm not sure05:27
emptystaplerpsusi: i have some kubuntu dapper livecds which have a rescue mode, but when i select them it complains about a missing linux64 kernel05:27
naliothfatehaze: off the puter, preferably05:27
fatehazei have a second computer05:27
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fatehazei'm installing ubuntu on my laptop, and i need to figure out how to add widescreen resolutions05:28
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fatehazewhich i assume i can do in my x11 config file?05:28
emptystaplerdoes anybody know how to reinstall grub using the rescue mode of an install cd?05:29
naliothfatehaze: to solve your hostname problem, reboot the stricken machine and choose 'rescue' at the grub menu05:29
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naliothfatehaze: open /etc/hosts for editing and make sure on teh same line as 127.0.0.1 is 'ubuntu' with no quotes05:30
fatehazek05:30
naliothfatehaze: save it and restart the box.05:30
naliothubotu: tell emptystapler about recover05:30
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intelikeymount the system root on /target and so a sudo chroot /target grub-install /dev/hda emptystapler05:30
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Mapionetkaevenin all. is there a page anywhere that will give me a rundown of whats involved with the server distro?05:30
fatehazeto get my wifi working, will i need to download the ndiswrapper?05:31
naliothubotu: tell Mapionetka about server05:31
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naliothubotu: tell fatehaze about wireless05:31
eobanbfatehaze, how are we supposed to answer that if we don't know what type of card you have05:31
Mapionetkayes, please edumacate me :P05:32
emptystapleri'll grab my laptop and give it a try. thanks!05:32
fatehazesorry, i don't really know myself05:32
fatehazeit's an acer aspire notebook05:32
eobanbis it internal, or pcmcia?05:32
epixLinux is offically easier to install than windows.05:32
Mapionetkagoogle the model number maybe fatehaze?05:32
cafuegofatehaze: Run 'lspci' and see what chip it reckons it is.05:33
intelikeyit's official now eh05:33
naliothMapionetka: look to your private messages and let fatehaze read his05:33
cafuegofatehaze: Note, do not paste the full output here.05:33
Mapionetkanice bot nalioth :)05:33
naliothMapionetka: we like 'im05:33
fatehazek, just a sec05:34
cafuego!goo'boy05:34
ubotuAww, thanks dad.05:34
Mapionetkalol05:34
intelikeyi'm in the process of installing the live cd from the running live cd onto a hdd,  and just cause i can....05:34
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fatehazerecovery mode didn't seem to fix my unkown host problem, can i edit the hosts file without root?05:34
fatehazeit's just a blank file05:34
Mapionetkai should get back into finishing my bot. it was leet, had its own scripting language and all :P05:34
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fatehazeshould i add "127.0.0.1   ubuntu" to it?05:34
naliothfatehaze: you cannot05:34
fatehazequite the quandary, in that case05:35
naliothfatehaze: it should have 127.0.0.1 in it already05:35
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cafuegoMind you, when the dns lookup fails, sudo still runs fine05:35
MayorMcCheeseCan anyone help me with installing Skype on 5.10?05:35
fatehazeit's blank but i assume that's because i'm not opening it as root05:35
naliothfatehaze: are you sure you're opening /etc/hosts    ?05:35
MayorMcCheeseI've read the wiki, the 2 senarios there don't work for me.05:35
fatehazei do "pico /etc/hosts"05:35
epixubotu: tell MayorMcCheese about skype05:35
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fatehazei added it in but i can't save it because i'm not root05:36
Mapionetkaubotu: tell Mapionetka about where babys come from05:36
naliothfatehaze: if it IS empty, put the IP and the name in there (along with 'localhost'  and 'localhost.localdomain')05:36
fatehazebut i can't get root without editing it05:37
naliothfatehaze: use the recovery option from the grub prompt05:37
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MayorMcCheeseMy problem is I can't get libqt3-mt05:37
Mapionetka<ubotu> i dunno what is 'where babys come from'.05:37
Mapionetkaawww05:37
MayorMcCheeseit doesn't exist05:37
Mapionetka:P05:37
fatehazewhat should i do at the command prompt after the recovery mode finishes loading?05:37
MayorMcCheeseI even downloaded someone's edited version of the deb and it installs...but when I click on Skype nothing happens05:37
MayorMcCheesejust a thunk sound05:37
naliothfatehaze: you should be able to run 'pico /etc/hosts'05:37
rottenaplokay. sitting next to me is a rescue prompt with my new target drive mounted at / (sda1) which i would like to install grub on (it's currently on my old drive, hda4)05:37
binarydigittry running it in a terminal and see if any error messages spit out05:37
fatehazeah, ok05:37
fatehazebrb05:37
naliothubotu: tell MayorMcCheese about skype05:38
riprhoadsCan someone help me with some inital install problems on an Averatec C3500?05:38
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rottenapl./dev/sda doesn't exist, so i can't grub-install to it as per the webpage directions05:38
naliothriprhoads: if you ask a question05:38
riprhoadsMy main problem is the screen is shifted down and wraps around so that the bottom is on the top05:38
MayorMcCheeseyeah it says E: Couldn't find package libqt3-mt05:39
MrNoOneI need help.. Been a while since I used Ubuntu and now can not login at via the GUI screeen05:39
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intelikeyrottenapl hda ?05:39
riprhoadsplus it's not booting into the gui, just text05:39
zer0triphello everyone05:39
zer0tripIm new to the ubuntu community05:39
MayorMcCheeseTha link you 2 sent me is great, but like I said the wiki allowes me to install but not run skype.  The second link in the ubotu doesn't work.  Bandwidth exceeded.05:39
zer0tripbut Im really loving it so far05:40
intelikeywelcome zer0trip05:40
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zer0tripthank you05:40
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baroslany music player supports tree view for windows (like http://barosl.com/pub/desktop/barosl-desktop-1135916441.jpg )05:40
rottenaplintelikey: i have an old drive with my install on it, an IDE mounted as /dev/hda4. this has grub on it, and works. i am transferring this partition to a new sata drive, /dev/sda105:40
riprhoadsanyone know what could cause that or how I could fix it?05:41
rottenapli already did the copy, and just need to migrate grub to the new partition05:41
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rottenapli am sitting at a rescue prompt (/dev/sda1) wondering what to do05:41
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jhennhow do i change my login manager to gdm?05:41
metrixI'm using warty warthog cd, and I would like to download the breezy cd and burn it to disc. is there burning software on warty live cd?05:41
intelikeyrottenapl install-grub /dev/sda05:41
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calamarihi05:41
cyphasehow can i have a secondary computer with only an ethernet card connect to my main computer to use it's wireless connection?05:41
fatehazeyay, su works now05:41
rottenaplintelikey: it says that /dev/sda is not a device05:41
MrNoOnewhen loggin in via GUI is username for root account "root"05:42
sethkrottenapl, run the grub shell and reinstall grub from there.05:42
jhenncyphase: its hard05:42
rottenaplsethk: how?05:42
MayorMcCheeseHas anyone else ahd the problem with skype installing but not running?05:42
calamarianyhow know where I can get the e2fsprogs development package?  it doesn't seem to be in the main/universe/multiverse repositories05:42
naliothjhenn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm05:42
jhenncyphase: really hard05:42
fatehazeso i ran lspci, which device is my wifi?  network controller?05:42
intelikeyrottenapl ls -l /dev/sda*05:42
cyphaselol05:42
sethkrottenapl, if sda is not a device from the command line, it won't be a device from the grub shell either, but...05:42
cyphasejhenn, i'm willing to try it for curiosity's sake05:42
sethkrottenapl, you just run grub and wait for the grub prompt, and enter commands05:42
cyphaseknow where i can find a tutorial?05:42
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cyphaseor some kind of reference05:42
sethkrottenapl, you've copied your /boot and /boot/grub directories also?05:42
rottenaplwell, i am currently IN /dev/sda105:42
spanglesontoasterm how do you get a terminal button on the desktop when you right click?05:43
rottenaplsethk: correct, it was a full copy with -ax05:43
fatehazeif the network controller is indeed my wifi, then i'm getting "Broadcom Corporation: Unkown device 4318 (rev 02)"05:43
rottenaplsethk: i edited fstab on it to be correct relative to the new drive05:43
slewhi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting up? it finds and fails a sensor, id like to remove the line.05:43
skonIf I'm running and I set the repositories to be Ubuntu addresses, will it work right?05:43
skonIf I'm running _Debian_ sorry and I set the repositories to be Ubuntu addresses, will it work right?05:43
sethkrottenapl, grub doesn't look at fstab05:43
rottenaplsethk: i know05:43
sethkrottenapl, run grub, at the prompt,  do    root (hd0,0)05:43
fatehazei know acer has drivers for it, but how do i install the ndiswrapper?05:43
sethkrottenapl, then    setup (hd0)05:43
rottenaplsethk: i'm just saying, i have it ready.. jsut need it to be the bootable device and have grub in the mbr05:44
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sethkrottenapl, assuming the /boot is on /dev/sda105:44
sethkrottenapl, right, you need fstab to be correct to boot, of course05:44
rottenaplhd0,0? keep in mind, i have an IDE drive as well on the primary channel. what does 0,0 mean?05:44
spanglesontoasterm how do you get a terminal button on the desktop when you right click?05:44
sethkrottenapl, is /boot on your root partition, and your root partition is sda1?05:44
sethkrottenapl, sorry, sd, not hd05:44
rottenaplsethk: correct about /boot and sda105:45
sethkrottenapl, the grub numbers are drive, and partition, starting from 005:45
sethkrottenapl, so for /dev/sda1, you use (sd0,0)05:45
rottenaplsda only has 2 partitions... sda1 and sda2 (swap)05:45
rottenaplokay, am at the grub prompt05:45
naliothskon: ubuntu and debian are mostly binary incompatible05:45
skonnalioth: k thanks05:45
sethkrottenapl, ok, all grub cares about is where /boot is and /, which are both sda105:46
sethkrottenapl, so you'll do this:   root (sd0,0)05:46
rottenaplroot (sd0,0) ... "Error while parsing number"05:46
naliothskon: you can have all the ubuntu deb-src URLs you like and have apt-get build the pkgs for you05:46
cafuegorottenapl: hd0,005:46
sethkrottenapl, hmm, something is messed up.  as we said, if sda isn't a device at the command line, it won't be for grub either05:46
cafuegorottenapl: grub doesn't care if it's sata, ide or scsi.05:46
cafuegosethk: foei05:46
sethkrottenapl, do you have ide drives also?05:46
sethkcafuego, I think he has both ide and sata drives connected05:47
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rottenaplcorrect. hda is an IDE on primary channel. hdc is a cdrom, and sda is the SATA drive05:47
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cafuegosethk: Even if that's the case, grub still doesn't use 'sd'05:47
skonthanks05:47
sethkcafuego, ok, but then, what?05:47
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cafuegosethk: Depending on bios boot settings, sata would be hd0 or hd1/05:48
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cafuegoif you install it on both, you can't go wrong :-)05:48
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sethkcafuego, at the moment that will put it on his primary master and primary slave ide drives05:48
rottenapltrue. either way is going to work, but i need it to boot from the sata05:48
cafuegorottenapl: try both root (hd1,0) and (hd0,0)05:48
cafuegosethk: His primarly slave is a cdrom, so not hd1.05:49
sethkrottenapl, I believe you are going to have to disable one of the IDE channels and boot a rescue cd and run the grub shell from there05:49
slewhi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting up? it finds and fails a sensor, id like to remove the line.05:49
gerritis there an equivilant to the disk cleanup utility in windows for ubuntu05:49
sethkcafuego, no, he said his cd is secondary master05:49
rottenaplsethk: correct05:49
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cafuegosethk: Then *if* he has an hdb, sata would be hd205:49
rottenaplPrimary IDE: HDD, Secondary IDE: CDROM, SATA1: HDD05:50
binarydigitSteveStevings: what exactly would you need to clean up05:50
cafuegorottenapl: Ok, then root (hd1,0)05:50
sethkrottenapl, cafuego, try hd205:50
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sethkrottenapl, no primary slave drive?  then hd105:50
rottenaplshared ide channels? yuck! :)05:50
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rottenaplinteresting05:51
sethkrottenapl, it is rather ugly05:51
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calamariahh.. got it.. uuid-dev :)05:51
rottenapl"Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"05:51
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sethkrottenapl, I've only done this with both ide and sata once.  Usually with sata, I don't run ide drives05:51
sethkrottenapl, that is normal05:51
rottenaplis that another way of saying "ext3"?05:51
sethkrottenapl, now, setup (hd2)05:51
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sethkrottenapl, right, ext305:51
sethkrottenapl, wait, no05:51
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Shadymanrottenap: It's ext2 I think.05:52
rottenaplI KNOW the partition is ext3, since I formatted it that way05:52
sethkrottenapl, let me check.  I'm not sure whether grub identifies as ext2 or ext305:52
sethkrottenapl, hold on, let me check one here.05:52
intelikeyext3  is ext2 + journal05:52
rottenapli am NOT sure what ubuntu chose as the fs for the original/old install.05:52
Shadymansethk: Just need to find what 83 stands for05:52
spanglesontoast!sources05:52
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sethkShadyman, no, unfortunately that's not correct.  83 just means linux file system05:52
rabbitIn Synaptic, what's the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal"05:52
Shadymansethk: Aw. I was pretty sure though there were 2 or 3 different types05:53
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sethkrottenapl, it identifies my ext3 as ext2 also, so don't worry about it.05:53
rottenaplhrm05:53
rottenaplokay, cool.05:53
polpakrabbit: complete removal will remove configuration files as well05:53
intelikeyShadyman 83 stands for linux native partition05:53
rottenaplsetup (hd1,0)?05:53
sethkShadyman, for windows partitions, yes, but not for linux.  linux just has 83 and 82 for file system and swap05:53
rabbitpolpak: why would I keep configuration files?05:53
Shadymansethk: Aww.05:53
sethkrottenapl, no, setup (hd1)05:53
rabbitpolpak:  if I ever reinstalled it would have some kind of settings?05:53
rottenaploops, ok.05:53
sethkrottenapl, setup takes a drive as a target, not a partition, so it is just (hd1)05:53
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SteveStevingswhat is the purpose of these huge (300+mb) logfiles syslog.0 and kern.log.005:53
intelikeyShadyman 82 is solarus swap    also used by linux for 'native' swap partition05:54
rottenaplokay, it claims success05:54
polpakrabbit: if you'd modified the configs and wanted to be able to reinstall at some point05:54
rottenapllet's see what happened05:54
sethkrottenapl, ok, now it should boot from the sata drive, providing you don't remove the ide drive05:54
sethkrottenapl, wait one moment, though05:54
sethkrottenapl, you may want to also do setup (hd0)05:54
rottenapli won't know what partition i'm actually in until i get into gnome05:54
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intelikey300m log file lol   loging everythin arent you ?05:55
cafuegorottenapl: *also* setup hd0.05:55
polpakSteveStevings: they show what's been going on in your system. You can rotate them out periodically though05:55
rottenapltoo late05:55
sethkrottenapl, yes, but the bios is going to boot you from hd0, most likely, so also do setup (hd0)05:55
rottenaplhaha!05:55
cafuegorottenapl: Then reboot, go into the bios and set sata as primary boot device.05:55
sethkrottenapl, well, not too late, you just have to boot again05:55
rottenaplone moment, already loading gnome05:55
rottenaplyeah05:55
cafuegorottenapl: That will most likely give you an *error*05:55
sethkrottenapl, or what cafuego suggested about the bios is also ok, if your bios does sata correctly05:55
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sethkrottenapl, unfortunately, two of my machines that "support" sata have messed up bios support for them05:56
rottenaplyeah, i'm in the wrong drive05:56
cafuego... you'll get a grub boot prompt, run the setup again, but this time sata will be hd0 (Coz you changed them in the bios).05:56
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sethkrottenapl, you have to do the root command first05:56
sethkrottenapl, so   root (hd1,0)05:56
sethkrottenapl, then setup (hd0)05:56
mbluntmanhello guys05:56
sethkcafuego, if he did change them in the bios.05:56
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sethkcafuego, I don't think he's done that, at least not yet.05:57
rottenaplI am using an MSI Neo2 Platinum, we'll see05:57
cafuegosethk: Well, if he wants to boot FROM (rather than TO) sata, he'll need to.05:57
rottenaplback at grub now.05:57
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uberleethi i have installed ubuntu and im also running an adsl modem via USB port so how can i setup my network ?05:57
mbluntmanmight i ask a question regarding 64bit with xchat and blowfish05:57
sethkcafuego, yes, but if the ide drive is going to stay, there is nothing wrong with the mbr being on the ide drive05:57
WeBDsIgNNeRHow can I configure ubuntu to connect internet with dsl modem?05:57
rottenaplokay, i did setup (hd0,0)05:57
sethkmbluntman, you can ask any question you like, _except_ "may I ask a question about...."05:58
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mbluntmanlol05:58
mbluntmanok05:58
sethkrottenapl, no, root (hd1,0)    then   setup (hd0)05:58
rottenapli don't care which drive is housing the bootstrapper, as long as i can get in05:58
rottenaplsethk: yes, i did that05:58
uberleetyes05:58
lampshadeOk, where do the x fonts defaulty go with tightvncserver and ubuntu?  Tightvncserver tries to find the fonts in a place that doesn't exist.  Where are they so I can change it05:58
intelikeythat's one thing i don't like about grub it depends on bios and if you change the bios you can't boot without telling grub where the heck the drive went to.05:58
uberleetme to WeBDsIgNNeR05:58
sethkrottenapl, ok, you typed it wrong, which is why I said that05:58
uberleeti have installed ubuntu and im also running an adsl modem via USB port so how can i setup my network ?05:58
sethkrottenapl, but as long as you typed it correctly for grub  :)05:58
uberleetadsl/dsl05:58
rottenaplsethk: i did root (hd1,0), and then setup (hd0)05:58
sethkrottenapl, ok, then it should do what you want05:59
rottenaplokay, so I DON'T need to boot from the sata?05:59
mbluntmanim using kubuntu on my amd64, i sudo apt-get install xchat, i tried to install fish on it and i get an error about shared object not found, i am wondering if this is another problem with me running 64bit or if this is  an xchat issue i must try to get support from xchat with05:59
uberleet...05:59
WeBDsIgNNeR:/06:00
uberleetanyone can help us both ?06:00
sethkrottenapl, no, it is perfectly ok to boot from the ide's mbr06:00
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uberleetWeBDsIgNNeR: are u using Vmware atm ?06:00
intelikeyi blast a lilo mbr onto all drives and no matter what i do in bios it still boots normally thus even disabling hda in bios doesn't affect a boot up and can be a real help if you do a lot of disk shuffeling.06:00
eobanbuberleet, i think your best bet would be to use actual ethernet instead of usb.06:00
uberleetbut i wanna use a USB06:01
cafuegombluntman: Probably an xchat issue; amd64 has issues too, but they're more severe :-)06:01
WeBDsIgNNeR[uberleet] : what is this?06:01
eobanbuberleet, uh, why06:01
MrNoOneWhats the easiest way to remove ubuntu from a hard drive without causing problems with the other distros on the drive?06:01
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mbluntmani know, i have ran across many problems with me running 64bit06:01
uberleetcoz i cant get ethernet around my area06:01
eobanb'cant get ethernet'?06:01
mbluntmani just switched over to kubuntu from windows xp06:01
sethkintelikey, yes, that's true, you trade off the "i forgot to run lilo" problem against that advantage.  I'm sure you don't forget to run lilo, but noobs often do.06:01
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rottenaplokay, not good06:01
rottenapli am still on the wrong drive06:01
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sethkmbluntman, you can of course run 32 bit on your 64 bit machine06:02
mbluntmanuberleet06:02
sethkrottenapl, change the boot menu on the sata drive.  Then reboot, to see which menu it is finding06:02
AndrewXwe got ethernet. what? we got ethernet. what?06:02
mbluntmani cant respond06:02
cafuegombluntman: I switched back from 64 to 32bit on my desktop.06:02
intelikeysethk true it can happen.  but that's like anything else you learn quickly.06:02
sethkrottenapl, just change something in one of the titles.06:02
uberleetkk06:02
sethkintelikey, true06:02
uberleetcoz i cant get ethernet around my area06:02
mbluntmanit says i must register something06:02
uberleetand i only have USB06:02
uberleetyeh register then06:02
naliothubotu: tell mbluntman about register06:02
rabbitwhat's the sources.list file for?    There's sources you can enable in synaptic, and should I change sources.list too?06:03
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cafuegorabbit: They're the same file.06:03
skon!repositories06:03
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource06:03
Di42lois there a .deb for the gaim2.0beta ?06:03
Di42lofor ubuntu ?06:03
uberleet/ns register [password-here] 06:03
YeahnudeHow to share internet (with ubuntu) 2 Network cards and then share with another computer?06:03
sethkuberleet, that really doesn't make sense.  Ethernet is a LAN type.  It is not something you have to be able to get (like, say, DSL)06:03
naliothYeahnude: use firestarter06:03
mbluntmanok06:03
naliothubotu: tell Yeahnude about firestarter06:03
sethkYeahnude, there are lots of howtos for that06:03
Yeahnudenalioth THX MAN:;D06:03
rottenaplmenu changed06:04
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rottenaplrebooting06:04
uberleetdude06:04
uberleeti said i cant get it i cant get it06:04
rabbitcafuego:  what are the sources (vs packages) for?06:04
mbluntmanok im regged06:04
naliothrabbit: for building from source06:04
uberleet;p06:04
rabbitnalioth:  why would I do that?06:04
uberleetnow do how so i setup my network via adsl/USB ?06:04
sethkrabbit, if you don't know, you probably would not06:05
rottenaplpeculiar06:05
rottenaplit's loading the menu from the sata06:05
naliothrabbit: perhaps you dont like the way the default binary is built06:05
sethkrottenapl, then you need to modify the menu.lst file06:05
rottenaplmaybe i should have just fixed the menu.lst manually while i was in there ><06:05
sethkrottenapl, it probably has (hd0,0)/ in it, and you need (hd1,0)06:05
rabbitnalioth:  say for another architecture or something?06:05
uberleetso nobody can help?06:05
naliothrabbit: or like me ( i have powerpc ubuntu) a pkg isnt available as a binary, i can build it06:05
eobanbuberleet, the chances of you getting your usb adsl modem to work with ubuntu is slim to none.  my guess would be none.  usb was never for networking, ethernet is, so i dont mean to be rude, but i dont know how it would kill you to just go and buy an ethernet cable for $506:05
rottenaplis there no way to fix the menu item from the grub console?06:05
uberleet..06:05
rabbitnalioth:  k, thanks06:05
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sethkrottenapl, you can edit the boot parameters with grub06:06
uberleet.....06:06
cyphaseha sanyone had problems with the dapper flight 2 cd?06:06
cyphasehas anyone*06:06
sethkrottenapl, you could go into edit mode, and change it from (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) and see if it fixes the problem06:06
rottenaplbingo06:06
cyphaselive cd*06:06
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sethkrottenapl, (hd1,0) fixes it?06:07
rottenaplit was set to 0,2 rather than 1,006:07
rottenapli edited it and booted using the edited entry. i'll correct/clean up the rest manually06:07
uberleetwell is anyone gonna help me06:07
sethkrottenapl, sounds good06:07
rottenaplnow let's see if anything else is broken :)06:07
uberleettoday?06:08
cyphaseHas anyone had problems with the Dapper Flight 2 Live CD?06:08
rottenaplgahh! it's still the wrong drive!06:08
rottenapllol06:08
rottenapli wonder if i commited my changes06:08
naliothubotu: tell cyphase about repeat06:08
cyphaselol06:08
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sethkrottenapl, easy to check06:08
uberleetubotu: tell nalioth about shut up06:08
rottenapl:p06:09
uberleetjust fucking help me06:09
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dhruvhas anyone used picard(probably a longshot) ? I'm having trouble getting it to write id3 tags.06:09
uberleeti been here for 2 days06:09
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naliothubotu: tell uberleet about conduct06:09
sethknalioth, :)06:09
rottenaplno, it did not commit :)06:09
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mrkojeanyone know anything about portknocking?06:10
eobanbwell he was obnoxious...06:10
sethkrottenapl, good, I was beginning to think I don't know anything at all.  :)06:10
ereetnow can i get help06:10
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ereetlol dumb ass.06:10
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binarydigitmrkoje: what about it06:10
naliothereet: would you like some time to think, also?06:10
sethkthere's a man who really wants help.  :)06:10
mrkojebinarydigit,  you know binary isn't a digit?06:10
binarydigitmrkoje: do you know a 1 or a 0 is a binary digit06:11
rottenaplthe last time i tried desktop linux was slackware 8 or something. ubuntu is rocking my world06:11
mrkojebinarydigit,  ok ok... I know you know. Do you use portknocking? Can you point me to some white papers?06:11
calamariI'm looking for an ultra lightweight html viewer, with as small a file size and as few dependencies as possible (preferenably none, except libc).. any ideas?06:11
binarydigitive only read about it when it was first being talked about06:11
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binarydigitall i can say is google06:11
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binarydigiti believe there is an example app06:11
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binarydigitsomewhere out there06:11
MrNoOnesigh.. well I started out tongight from not being able to login to Ubuntu via the GUI interface to the boot screen hurling. Definitely a step in the wrong direction06:11
binarydigitthat demonstrates it06:11
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mrkojecalamari,  links06:11
rabbitshould I add the supported/community supported sources given by 'source-o-matic'  ?   why do I do this?06:11
rabbitright now they're not enabled..06:12
lukashi guy, I new Ubuntu and Linux06:12
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lukasI have some questions06:12
blackvdneed help listening to streaming audio,says I need mms?06:12
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rottenaploh man, now i'm pissed06:12
calamarimrkoje: I just compiled elinks with --disable *.. it was over 2mb, and has tons of dependencies06:12
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naliothblackvd: mimms or mmsclient06:12
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rottenaplsethk: i am still on the wrong drive. i SAW it load 1,006:12
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cyphase*sigh*06:12
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ordinaryaad06:12
ordinaryaah06:12
ordinaryaah06:12
mrkojecalamari,  what about lynx06:12
Unitydid i come in at a bad time?06:12
ordinaryaah06:12
ordinaryD:06:13
ordinarylol06:13
eobanbUGH06:13
calamarimrkoje: I'll try it :)06:13
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sethkrottenapl, you definitely have only one ide drive and one sata drive?06:13
binarydigitso leet06:13
Unityubuntu is super popular!!06:13
QMarioWho are these people?06:13
binarydigitbig fans of ubuntu06:13
KyralBots most likely06:13
QMarioHe's probably using several proxies.06:13
sampanqmario  drones/bots06:13
GoRoDeK:)06:13
KyralZonbies06:13
sethkrottenapl, what is your root= set to?06:13
QMarioSampan, bad ones, right?06:14
sampana script kiddie got ticked off and bombed the chan06:14
sampanyes06:14
sethkrottenapl, it may be using the kernel from the sata but still using /dev/hda1 as root06:14
ordinarySuccess?06:14
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rottenaplsethk: one moment06:14
lukasdoes any one know how to edit the yaboot.config file to boot from Mac OS X by default?06:14
QMarioSampan, how do you know if it is a script being run?06:14
intelikeyscript attack,  revenge of the banned..... ?06:14
ordinarywhat did he succeed at?06:14
Unityhundreds of RAXxes left06:14
rottenaplsethk: d'oh :)06:14
rabbitshould I add the supported/community supported sources given by 'source-o-matic'  ?   why do I do this?   they're not enabled right now..06:14
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sethkrottenapl, that's good, easy to fix.  :)06:15
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=== mode/#ubuntu [+m] by lilo
lilosorry about the problems06:15
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=== mode/#ubuntu [+m] by nalioth
liloklining along....some problem child06:16
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=== mode/#ubuntu [-m] by nalioth
MrNoOnewhy the heck would changing a password for the non root account at the rescue level cause Ubunutu now to hurl and prevent the displaying of the GUI screen????? Gives an error about gdm user missing06:21
cyphasefinally06:21
Wilf:(06:21
skon:-D06:21
skonWhat a loser06:21
sethkback?06:21
Unityhow can they all have different ips?06:21
sethkisn't vandalism wonderful?06:21
skonbotney :-D06:21
naliothUnity: script kiddie06:21
skonbotnet06:21
Wilfhe liked japan...06:22
=== mode/#ubuntu [+J 7,15] by nalioth
Unitynalioth, how do i know for example that my ip wasn't banned?06:22
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naliothUnity: are you still here?06:22
cyphaseUnity, it's very easy to fake IP's, but only if you don't want anything coming back to you06:22
=== mode/#ubuntu [+f #ubuntu-unregged] by nalioth
blackvdok I installed mimms now what?06:22
RemmyThese were mostly hacked windows machines06:23
cyphasein this case he just wanted to flood the channel with joins06:23
sampanunity, they hack people's computers (usually by getting windows clients to click on a link on another irc net that infects the clients' pc with an irc-bot that gives the hacker control)06:23
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lilosorry about the delays, holiday coverage is a bit light06:23
naliothblackvd: point mimms at the URL for the stream06:23
Unitysampan, oh cool i don't run windows06:23
blackvdin terminal06:23
blackvd?06:23
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sethkUnity, because we can all hear you  :)06:23
RemmyUnity: The problem is that people who do, and who's systems get compromised usually don't know, or don't care, as they don't understand the dangers involved.06:24
sethkUnity, you are correct, though, sometimes an ip will be banned whose only error was letting himself get hacked06:24
sethkUnity, but what can anyone do about that?06:24
sampanusually they don't even know -- the bots connect to irc whenever the infected pc is online -- they join specific channels or hidden nets and the hacker then gives commands to them there06:24
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sethkspeaking of which, there is a nasty new windows vulnerability that showed up yesterday06:25
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skonin metafiles?06:25
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PeteyPablowhats -r ?06:25
eobanboh shit06:25
sethkskon, in a particular type of picture file06:25
skonsethk: yeah I got that cert advisory too06:25
sethkskon, looks particularly nasty and M$ has nothing for it06:25
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liloproblem children again06:26
eobanbuh yeah.06:26
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Kyraluhoh06:26
blackvdok says connected and is doing ............. but no sound?06:26
Kyrallilo!!06:26
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sethkI miss so much by turning off join/part messages06:26
Kyralhehehe06:26
ubuntuthere r all ubuntu users ?06:26
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intelikeythat dumb jurk.06:26
lampshadeHey, I can connect to my xvncserver, but I don't see anything.  Just grey, what am I missing?  I have fluxbox installed, but it just doesn't... yeah.... I got nothing :-/06:26
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cyphasehey tobobo. chat was blocked when you joned earlier06:27
cyphase:)06:27
QMarioIs [15]  another robot?06:27
eobanbQMario, yes06:27
naliothyes they are06:27
ubuntuwho is lilo ?06:27
=== lilo waves
naliothlilo is the owner of freenode06:27
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crimsunhe's freenode's network head honcho.06:27
Kyrallilo is teh uber god of Freenode06:27
=== PeteyPablo waves to lilo
ubuntuhehe06:27
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lilothanks guys06:28
PeteyPablowe are all a bunch of suckups06:28
liloI'm named after a favorite science fiction character, in John Varley's THE OPHIUCHI HOTLINE. I am *not* named after the LInux LOader, and I didn't write it! :)  -- lilo, winter 1993 || Nor am I named after the little girl in the movie, nor the air mattress, nor Last In Last Out. ;) -- lilo, summer 200306:28
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liloGoldfisch: ^^06:28
blackvdany clues on why no audio through mimms?06:28
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=== intelikey no homage, but a word of thanks to lilo.
liloyou're welcome, intelikey06:28
Unityit must feel cool setting modes and kicking people without ops06:28
=== mode/#ubuntu [+Jf 5,10 #ubuntu-unregged] by nalioth
PeteyPablolol06:28
liloPeteyPablo: well, I appreciate the kind words....I think anybody would 8)06:28
PeteyPablolilo, oh no doubt06:29
PeteyPablolilo, truthfully im just jealous :-)06:29
naliothlilo: you are much appreciated, for more than this.06:29
liloPeteyPablo: eep, don't be jealous.... whenever there's politics I have a big target painted on my back :)06:29
Hentai^XPworklilo: you created ##windows?06:29
liloHentai^XPwork: yes06:29
PeteyPabloeww windows.06:29
Hentai^XPworkthought so ok lilo06:30
lampshade__anyone use tight vnc?__  extremely frustrated here.....06:30
naliothlilo you gonna set a staffer in #ubuntu-unregged to log ?06:30
lilonalioth: if I can find one 8)06:30
naliothlilo: seems someone has found us again...06:31
sethksuch energy.  and nothing else to do with it?06:31
ttypdoes ubuntu have a 64-bit version?06:31
eobanbttyp, yes06:31
PeteyPablottyp, yea06:31
ttypcool06:31
cafuegottyp: Yes, but note that it doesn't do 1) flash, 2) java on the web and 3) video.06:32
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WhyvasLTTgrub.conf ?06:32
PeteyPablocafuego, really?06:32
WhyvasLTTwhere is it?06:32
cafuegoPeteyPablo: Really.06:32
PeteyPablocafuego, thats pathetic :-(06:32
eobanbttyp, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/ for all available versions06:32
ttypcafuego: hmm. does gentoo not do those things either?06:33
cyphaselilo, why does whois say your logged onto only channels i'm logged on to?06:33
cyphase:)06:33
cafuegoPeteyPablo: Tell the manufacturers of the icky ia32 software to fix their code :-)06:33
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slindsayhello all..  I'm having a problem with the hotplug system hanging during bootup.  I'm running an older Dell Latitude.  I looked throught the forums, but nobody seems to have a definitive solution to the problem.  Anyone have some suggestions?  (I'm running 5.10, btw)06:33
cafuegottyp: Nope06:33
GoldfischThe only thing close to a grub.conf on my system is /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf06:33
PeteyPablocafuego, i would but i would probably end up stabbing them06:33
calamaricyphase: it does that it if you are +i06:33
crimsunslindsay: what particularly w/ hotplug?06:33
sethkttyp, gentoo does the same things as everyone else, only after a week of compiling and a bit more slowly06:33
cyphase+i?06:33
PeteyPablogentoo = sucky06:34
Unityno os bashing!06:34
calamaricyphase: at least in efnet :)  +i is invisible06:34
crimsunlet's leave the distro wars outside, please.06:34
eobanbagreed.06:34
cafuegoUnity: Gnetoo is not an OS.06:34
PeteyPablosorry :-)06:34
slindsaycrimsun: well, it boots up with the fancy graphical splash screen, but when it gets to the entry about "Starting hotplug subsystem" it just hangs.06:34
Unitycafuego, i thought it was a sinux distro06:34
pl_iceafter hrs my ipod still doesn't like linux :/06:34
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Unitysomeone switched my l and s!06:35
PeteyPabloUnity, unlikely.06:35
slindsaycrimsun: it doesn't do this every time, however.  If a do a hard reboot (power switch), it usually works on the second try.06:35
intelikeyPeteyPablo i like gentoo it reminds me of mc.         oh you mean the distro ja ja ja06:35
eobanbhar har har06:35
PeteyPablointelikey, i just dont know why anyone would use anything except ubuntu!06:35
calamarifedora isn't too bad, at least it has gnome06:36
WhyvasLTTPeteyPablo, that's because you're narrow minded06:36
intelikeyyou use ubuntu PeteyPablo ?   do you have gentoo installed on it ?06:36
WhyvasLTTand you never tried anything else probably06:36
GoldfischWell, if we are throwing in our opinions of distributions...if it's RPM, I am not interested. deb's save the day.06:36
ttypactually i've been using slackware for a while and i like it a lot but i got a 64-bit PC for xmas and i'm looking for a 64-bit distro06:36
PeteyPabloWhyvasLTT, you don't know me, don't make assumptions06:36
intelikeyPeteyPablo sudo apt-get install gentoo06:36
PeteyPabloWhyvasLTT, i've used many linux distro's06:36
Kyrallol06:36
calamariintelikey: lol06:36
Kyralyou can actyally06:37
PeteyPabloi don't like gentoo, my opinion sorry if i made some fanboys mad.06:37
intelikeycalamari something funny ?06:37
crimsunslindsay: interesting. Which laptop again?06:37
eobanbttyp, there is a 64-bit version of ubuntu; just be aware that support for some non-free software is limited06:37
Goldfischttyp: My 64-bit MythTV machine is debian 64. That was before I got into ubunutu. If I was standing it up now for the first time, I would investigate ubuntu's 64-bit version.06:37
PeteyPabloWhyvasLTT, and actually i have a big head06:37
Unitycan i put ubuntu on an sata drive and boot from it without all that hassle with drivers that you need on windows?06:37
intelikey!info gentoo06:37
ubotugentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB06:37
WhyvasLTTyeah yeah, start naming off the distros you booted off or logged into to prove you're cool now....06:38
sethkUnity, if your sata chipset is supported, yes.06:38
cafuegoUnity: Yes.06:38
intelikeysmart asses ^06:38
PeteyPabloWhyvasLTT, please stop trying to flame me, your not funny. and i didn't name any distros? i just said i had tried many06:38
slindsaycrimsun: It's an older Dell Latitude CPi - A, according to the sticker on the back.06:38
PeteyPabloignored.06:38
crimsunWhyvasLTT: / PeteyPablo: quit it.06:38
PeteyPablocrimsun, affirmative. he's been perma squelched06:38
cafuegottyp: Yeah, it was fun to play with, but too much stuff just doesn't work. it gets highly annoying after a while.06:38
PeteyPabloi find the 64 bit world is quite lacking now a days, linux and windows.06:39
crimsunslindsay: if you can get to /var/log/dmesg, that'll help06:39
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naliothPeteyPablo: WhyvasLTT: y'all really should discuss distros in #ubuntu-offtopic06:39
WhyvasLTTim just saying he's obviously never tried any others, and booting off of a live cd doesn't count...06:39
WhyvasLTTsimple as that06:39
PeteyPablonalioth, sorry for the inconvenience i squelched him should be no more problems06:39
intelikeyGoldfisch that's what i was doing :)06:39
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slindsaycrimsun: yup, I'm looking through it right now.  What should I be looking for?06:40
crimsunpastebin it06:40
WhyvasLTTyeah, im sure he's ignoring me too...06:41
naliothWhyvasLTT: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please06:41
psusiUnity, windows usually doesn't need special drivers for sata either, AFAIK06:41
psusiunless you're talking sata raid06:41
lampshadeI'm trying to install Fluxbox and access it through tightvncserver, however, I can connect to the vncserver, I don't see anything.  I have the basic X cursor and see nothing.  ideas?  Googling hasn't produced anything that worked06:41
Unitypsusi, i've had trouble in the past with it06:42
Unitypsusi, lost a lot of important stuff06:42
naliothlampshade: ask uncle google "x forwarding ssh"06:42
Kyralssh -X06:42
ttypis the sata chipset on the mobo or on the hd?06:42
slindsaycrimsun: is there a channel for large log-dumps?06:42
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KyralFreeNX06:42
naliothslindsay: #flood or use a pastebin06:42
slindsaycrimsun: I probably shouldn't paste the entire log here, I'd imagine.06:43
Goldfischlampshade: It launched a separate X server for that instance of vncserver. Probably has next to nothing in the X session. Does right clicking offer some menus in fluxbox?06:43
KyralFreeNX > SSH X11 > VNC06:43
NoWhereToTurnCan someone help me?06:43
lampshadenalioth:  xforwarding is lame and besides, unless a windows machine is running cygwin it just gets worse06:43
slindsaynalioth: I'm an irc newbie. :(06:43
psusiKyral, what is freenx, and why do you say raw X11 > vnc?06:43
Unityttyp, no clue...i would think on the mb though06:43
naliothubotu: tell slindsay about pastebin06:43
intelikeyprobably not NoWhereToTurn but we might if you tell us what you need.06:43
GoldfischI like using vino, because then I can get to an existing X session instead of forming a new one. That lets me keep one copy of evolution running on my desktop PC, without pushing it between :0 and :1.06:43
Kyralpsusi: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX06:44
psusiKyral, with X11 forwarding, you need ssh, then you just run individual programs on the remote host that pop up like they are local... I like vnc because it's got its own window with the full desktop and everything06:44
Unityttyp, how can sata chipset be on the hd?06:44
NoWhereToTurnOk will here goes again. Could not get logged into Unbuntu via Gui06:44
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn i mean unless you be specific, we can not help you.06:44
cafuegoUnity: tragic accident?06:44
DotheGurudoes anyone know of a good list of terminal commands?06:44
Kyralpsusi: I'd prefer the speed of X11 and securitu06:44
NoWhereToTurnSo I went into signle user mode and changged the oassword on an account whose name is NOT root06:44
psusiKyral, it's been years since I did it that way, but iirc, it was SLOW06:45
KyralVNC is slower for me06:45
Kyralbut FreeNX06:45
psusitightvnc compresses everything well... X11 doesn't06:45
NoWhereToTurnNow when I boot up ubuntu hurls and does not even load the GUI properly06:45
Kyralholy shit it has to be seen06:45
psusihrm... I'll have to check it out....06:46
DotheGurunowhere: what do you see?06:46
crimsunKyral: (you're bound by the same CoC that you signed regarding exclamations)06:46
naliothubotu: tell DotheGuru about cli06:46
Kyralcrimsun: meh :P06:46
NoWhereToTurnone sec DotheGuru06:46
calamarigparted seems to be able to change an ext2 partition into an ext3.. is there a command line tool that will do the same?06:47
psusicalamari, tune2fs06:47
calamaripsusi: thanks06:47
binarydigitgparted is just a frontend for parted06:47
intelikeyok NoWhereToTurn, sounds like the .Xauthority  or .iceauthority files may be owned by root.   you can safely rm them by using the [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  and logging into a console then ' rm .*auth* '06:47
NoWhereToTurnchown root:video invalid user on bootup followed by a test screen where the GUI should be displayed that says ADM user not found06:47
psusicalamari, the only difference is ext3 has a log file.. tune2fs can add or remove that log file ( aka journal )06:47
NoWhereToTurntets-text06:48
intelikeyerr sudo that even ^06:48
calamaribinarydigit: I think it adds a little more functionality besides just parted06:48
naliothcalamari: sudo tune2fs -j /path/to/device06:48
binarydigitah06:48
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calamarinalioth: thanks06:49
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NoWhereToTurn"The gdm user does not exist" Please correwct the gdm configuration /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm"06:49
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NoWhereToTurnThats the final text screen that I see instead of the gui06:49
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dortoi am not able to access the mounted NTFS partitions as a normal user?06:49
Syco54645hi i was wondering what linux would see my new sata drive as06:49
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NoWhereToTurnWhat exactly is the root login via the gui or can one not due to security06:49
Syco54645i need to partition it06:50
naliothubotu: tell NoWhereToTurn about sudo06:50
RedRoseNoWhereToTurn:It Let's You Login As Root In The Login Menu... It's Insecure Cause Root can Cause A Lot Of Troubl06:50
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RedRoseis there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp06:50
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naliothRedRose: gftp06:51
AMe-Hi quick question, how much space should one have at least to have a good working ubuntu system?06:51
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn root login on X is disabled in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf if i remembe correctly.06:51
slindsaycrimsun: okay, I posted my dmesg log on pastebin06:51
naliothAMe-: how big is your hard drive <GRIN>06:51
AMe-5gb? 10gb?06:51
NoWhereToTurnRedRose should I follow intelikey suggestion about ^^^06:51
RedRosenalioth:non-GUI... command-line based06:51
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AMe-i want to run ubuntu with gentoo and pentesting tools06:51
naliothAMe-: 7gb would be the minimum i'd use,but for cli only you can get by with 406:52
AMe-thanks :)06:52
intelikeyonly sujestion i made is rm the ./.*auth* files06:52
AMe-heh gentoo meant gnome06:52
intelikey****** only sujestion i made is rm the ./.*auth* files ******06:52
RedRoseis there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp... non-gui preferably06:52
AMe-ncftp06:52
naliothintelikey: why are you repeating?06:52
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shadeofgreyokay guys'06:52
shadeofgreyi need help06:53
binarydigitliar06:53
RedRoseshadeofgrey:more specific?06:53
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dortoif i open /media/hda6 etc as a normal user i don't see any files06:53
superchode|fushould i be able to ssh into a default ubuntu install?06:53
shadeofgreyi just installeed dapper flight 2, AND distroupgraded...  but the mouse  applet in preferences wont swap my mouse buttons and i need to be ableto do that06:53
intelikeyyou mean why did i nalioth i added the attention * because i wasnt sure the correct party noticed.06:53
tritiumsuperchode|fu, no, not until you install the server06:53
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RedRoseis there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp... non-gui preferably06:53
dortoi can't open my mp3 files frim rhythmbox that are stored on ntfs partition06:54
dortowhat should i do?06:54
superchode|fuso i need to install openssh-server, yes?06:54
shadeofgreycan somebody supply me with a GOOD sources.list file so i can update to the latest06:54
crimsunslindsay: my guess is either ACPI or pcmcia06:54
eobanb!mp306:54
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:54
tritiumsuperchode|fu, yep :)06:54
RedRosedorto:Did you mound the NTFS partition yet?06:54
superchode|fuk, thx.06:54
naliothubotu: tell shadeofgrey about sources06:54
RedRose!mp306:54
crimsunslindsay: can you reproduce the spinning on hotplug if you boot with acpi=off ?06:54
dortoRedRose, yes, i can see all the files using sudo06:54
NoWhereToTurnShould I boot into recovery mode to try to fix this problem?06:54
lalalalalakiki06:54
shadeofgreyno i need sources for DAPPER06:54
intelikeyRedRose i like ncftp06:54
dortoits not about not able to play mp3, i am not able see the files06:54
lalalalalahuhu06:55
RedRosedorto:that's the problem... you are able to see the files as root, but not as the user logged into the GUI06:55
RedRoseGNOME...06:55
crimsunshadeofgrey: you do know that stuff can be horribly broken in Dapper, correct?06:55
slindsaycrimsun: I can certainly try06:55
intelikeyRedRose lftp is probably installed by default tho06:55
RedRoseyou need to mount it and allow it to be seen by all06:55
shadeofgreycrimsun:  YES.  and the mouse applet IS broken.  but yestersday somebody gave me a better sources.list file and it fixed it06:55
naliothshadeofgrey: in your sources.list, change breezy for dapper, and prepare to break.06:56
dortoRedRose, so what should i do? i tried chaning the permissions for /media/hda* and the ownership also; i get 'read only filesystem error'06:56
crimsunslindsay: ok, I'm leaving work, so I'll be back in an hour.06:56
dortoRedRose, how to mount it so that everyone can see the files? sth in options in /etc/fstab?06:56
intelikeyooo is he gona break now.....06:56
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RedRoseok, man mount06:56
tritiumbe safe, crimsun06:56
crimsunthanks, tritium06:57
dortoredhook, k, will look there, thx06:57
dortooops, *redrose06:57
shadeofgreyguys its okay.  im installing dapperon a totally seperate drive06:57
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AMe-dorto you know redhook?06:57
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AMe-oh nm heh06:57
shadeofgreytheres nothing to get worried about.  my main breezy installation is alive and well.06:57
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naliothshadeofgrey: have fun.06:58
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superchode|futhanks, logged in over ssh now.06:58
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lalalalalagygyy06:58
RedRosedorto:...06:58
tritiumsuperchode|fu, :)06:58
RedRosemount /dev/... ... -o user06:58
Goldfischsuperchode|fu: I also suggest checking out keychain06:58
RedRosewill allow anuyone to view the partition06:58
dortok, thank you very much :)06:58
ironwolfI can't seem to get the wireless part of a thinkpad R32 working.  It seems to see  the card in iwconfig, has the right wep key.  (Breezy) any hints/suggestions?06:58
superchode|fuGoldfisch: elaborate?06:59
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NoWhereToTurnsigh06:59
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spstarr_homeis the bugzilla page on ubuntu.com broken?07:00
NoWhereToTurnwell ubuntu looks like it is dead07:00
AMe-how is that?07:01
NoWhereToTurncan not login at all07:01
spstarr_homeYou must choose a component to file this bug in. If necessary, just guess07:01
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spstarr_homei dont see all the required fields on bugzilla07:01
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spstarr_homethus it wont let me fill in the bug :_)07:01
GoldfischKeychain is an OpenSSH key manager, typically run from ~/'.bash_profile. When keychain is run, it checks for a running ssh-agent, otherwise it starts one.07:01
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NoWhereToTurnIf I am at a text login prompt can I not use "root" as the username???07:02
tritium!tell Nothingman about rootsudo07:02
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn do you have a root password set ?07:02
MadpilotNoWhereToTurn: not by default07:02
NoWhereToTurnIts been ages since I used Ubuntu07:03
intelikey!root07:03
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rob1^laptop!nothanks07:03
ubotuNot a clue, rob1^laptop07:03
naliothNoWhereToTurn: use your username, and then use sudo from the console07:03
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intelikeyah that's a pm now.... hmmm07:03
TheDracleI need some help with webmin07:03
Madpilotintelikey: longer ubotu tells are routed to pm now07:03
intelikeyyes i see that07:04
NoWhereToTurnNope nalioth I still can not get password the login prompt in the text screen07:04
spanglesontoastwheres mame?07:04
TheDracleHow do I set it up so that I can access with from another computer: e.g. https://ubuntu:10000/07:04
dortomount [...]  -o user still doesn't allow the partitions to be readable by the normal user07:04
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dortolast time i was able to access ntfs partitions from various applications as a normal user07:05
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naliothNoWhereToTurn: is this your installed ubuntu or a liveCD?07:05
dortoi don't know what's happening this time07:05
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NoWhereToTurnInstalled on HD07:05
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naliothNoWhereToTurn: then ctrl-c out of it and try again07:05
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TheDracleMy iptables should be OK for port 10000, tcp. webmin IP access should allow any. What's left?07:05
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn you could boot to single user and set the password for the main user even add a user and add them to the admin group for safty....07:05
NoWhereToTurnThe gui does not load. CTL-C does nothing since I a restricted to text / console mode07:06
TheDracleI can access https://localhost:10000/ no problem.07:06
NoWhereToTurnsignle user mode = recovery mode?07:06
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TheDracleJust not from any other computer07:06
TestAMDhi07:06
naliothNoWhereToTurn: yes07:06
binarydigitis there a way to add items to the places menu07:06
Knowerrors Just did an apt-get update and got this message http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/483807 , anybody know how to fix this?07:06
twystedTheDracle> you have to use the network ip07:06
naliothubotu: tell binarydigit about alacarte07:07
NoWhereToTurnRecovery mode is dead07:07
twystedTheDracle> eg http://192.168.0.4:100007:07
binarydigitthanks07:07
NoWhereToTurnthats where I have been trying to login via the console07:07
dortocan anyone access the ntfs partitions in ubuntu as a normal user?07:07
intelikeyno i don't think they are the same NoWhereToTurn   add  'single'   to the kernel line at boot time.07:07
TheDracletwysted: I am using the correct IP, that is not the problem.07:07
TestAMDi got a question.. im wanting to change the default username and password on the livecd..where would i do that at?07:07
dortocan you show me your /etc/fstab file?07:07
twystedTheDracle> you put localhost in the window so one has to assume you did not07:07
fli7edorto, i dont think so. you need ntfs read/write utilities to do that as far as i know07:07
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intelikeyerrr actually the append line of the kernel arguments07:07
TheDracleI can ssh into the computer remotely with the same iptables settings.07:07
twystedTheDracle> why are you using a firewall internally anyways07:07
naliothdorto: change your fstab permissions07:07
naliothdorto: the permissions in your fstab07:08
TheDracletwysted: localhost works fine. It is when I try to connect from a different computer that I cannot connect.07:08
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn give it the three fingered solute and it'll reboot07:08
TheDracletwysted: I am not using a firewall internally.07:08
twystedTheDracle> iptables is a firewall07:08
TheDracletwysted: I know07:08
TestAMDhow do i change the Ubuntu@ubuntu on the livecd?? as in remastering the livecd..07:09
twystedTheDracle> im not helping you, your being stupid and i cant work with you07:09
shadeofgreyokqay where can i go toget the LATEST version of dapper?07:09
NoWhereToTurnintelikey been there with 3 finger numerous times07:09
naliothTestAMD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo07:09
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TheDracleMy iptables is set up correctly to allow ssh connections from a select few machine. The same setting should allow connections to port 10000.07:09
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TheDraclessh works fine07:10
TheDraclewebmin workd fine as long as I connect locally.07:10
twystedTheDracle> apparently not since you cant view the webmin disable iptables and see if it works then07:10
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NoWhereToTurnI am using GRUB ot boot Ubuntu07:11
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twystedTheDracle> i use ubuntu and webmin on my server ive never had to setup anything special to use it on a remote machine07:11
NoWhereToTurnTo enter single user mode do I add signle on to the line which has /root= ?07:11
TheDracleCrap.07:11
TheDracleI should have thought before I did iptables -F07:11
twystedNoWhereToTurn> boot into failsafe mode07:11
TheDracleI have policy set up to DROP everything.07:11
TheDracleGrrrrrrr.07:11
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn yeah,  use  [esc]   then select the default boot option of ubuntu and use  [E]   to edit    add  'single'   or  '1'   and  [b]  to boot.       that should boot to a sulogin (means you are already logged in as root when you get there) console  there you can affect the repairs needed.07:11
twystedNoWhereToTurn> at the grub menu just pres the esc key and youll have a choice of normal ubuntu and failsafe07:12
Wilf./INSTALL: command substitution: line 141: `won't compile at all (because it was a freshly unpacked tree without'07:12
Wilfcut: you must specify a list of bytes, characters, or fields07:12
Wilfwhat's that mean?07:12
mystamaxhello everyone07:12
TheDracleNow I need to connect into the machine (located at a remote site in the Utah desert) via my backup modem.07:12
TheDracleBRB07:12
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binarydigitnalioth: alacarte doesn't allow you to add items to the places menu07:12
twystedTheDracle> im in utah want me to go kick it?07:12
mystamaxanyone running ubuntu on VMware?07:12
dortonalioth: just tried...added 'user' under options, but no success. what else do i need to add?07:12
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naliothbinarydigit: places?07:12
dotchad 04:15:18 up 16:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.17, 0.05, 0.0107:12
binarydigityea07:12
binarydigityou know where it says Places07:12
naliothubotu: tell dorto about pastebin07:13
binarydigitinbetween Applications and System07:13
naliothdorto: paste your fstab please07:13
KnowerrorsIs http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl down?07:13
dortonalioth, k07:13
dotchadhelp, i need somebody help07:13
PeteyPablo!dapper07:13
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake07:13
naliothdorto: ask a question, this isn't drama school07:13
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NoWhereToTurnSingle mode is already what recovery mode is07:14
mystamaxanyone running ubuntu on VMware?07:14
LinuturkI got a better question. I need to see if I can get my Broadcom wireless card working in my new laptop?07:14
NoWhereToTurnIt hurls as well07:14
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sethkLinuturk, what chipset?07:14
NoWhereToTurnstill forces me to enter a username07:14
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Linuturksethk, don't know.07:14
naliothLinuturk: the driver will be in dapper07:14
dortonalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6367 <-- my fstab07:15
GoldfischSingle-user mode doesn't mean no login. It just means basically no networking, so ONLY the console user can log in.07:15
plagerismI just installed a new SATA drive, and installed Ubuntu Breezy, however now when I burn DVD images, I am only able to burn half the speed that I was able to before from my PATA drive.  Is this a known issue??  Is there anyway to fix this??07:15
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TheDracletwysted: Whew. I am glad I had that backup. The computer is controlling an autonomous laser system. :)07:15
Linuturkwhat's the bash command to see what the chipset is?07:16
NoWhereToTurnGoldfisch then I should get a # prompt correct?07:16
GoldfischSingle-user mode run init level 1, which runs many fewer booted applications, of which networking is a biggy.07:16
twystedTheDracle> hehe07:16
naliothdorto: which ones are ntfs?07:16
Linuturknalioth, how do you know it will be?07:16
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn that don't sound right.... but you are the one looking at the box, so i can't argue with you.    single user mode has always used sulogin      at least until ubuntu 5.10 that is.07:16
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dortonalioth: hda1 and hda507:16
naliothLinuturk: cuz the driver is out now, in source form07:16
TheDracletwysted: I'll be a bit more careful with flushing my iptables. :)07:16
twystedNoWhereToTurn> that means your in root mode07:16
cozhello to most of you07:16
twystedNoWhereToTurn> aka single user basically07:16
NoWhereToTurnThis is 5.0407:16
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intelikeyGoldfisch where is runlevel one not sulogin  ?07:17
PeteyPablocoz: hello107:17
dortonalioth: i have also tried 'ntfs' in place of 'auto' and 'user', 'users' in place of 'defaults,user'07:17
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cozPeteyPablo hello07:17
NoWhereToTurnI can not get past the login prompt does not matter how I start Ubuntu up07:17
PeteyPablocoz: i couldn't help but notice your in pa also :-P07:17
slimhello all, would anyone be willing to help me with a quick question about configuring WPA in 5.10?07:17
twystedslim just ask07:17
cozyes I am07:17
NoWhereToTurnI always see tht error screen about adm07:17
naliothdorto: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/636807:18
cozwhere abouts are you PeteyPablo07:18
Linuturknalioth, what's the bash command to see what chipset it is?07:18
twystedcoz please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic07:18
TheDracleI am "pretty" sure it is not iptables that is preventing remote access to webmin.07:18
PeteyPablocoz: i'm in pittsburgh07:18
Goldfischintelikey: What I'm saying is that it runs the boot scripts found in /etc/rc1.d, which is akin to init level 1.07:18
naliothLinuturk: sudo lshw07:18
slimI did everything according to the wpa howto, seemed to work great. when I restart though, I have to do a networking restart to get web access07:18
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cozsame here I hope everyone low formats their hard drives BEFORE installing ubuntu07:19
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TheDracleI tried setting it to accept ALL connections from my home computer. Still no luck.07:19
twystedTheDracle> it can be unless you have a funky webmin setup check the conf via ssh07:19
Linuturknalioth, lshw? doesn't work07:19
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn you could use this kernel arg at boot,   init=/bin/bash   but you'll have to mount the / manually  and umount it before you exit.07:19
lampshadeanyone here use tightvnc?07:19
naliothLinuturk: dosnt work for what?07:19
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Linuturknalioth, embedded DSL 2.007:20
TheDracletwysted: I have "allow=0.0.0.0" in my miniserve.conf. Shouldn't that do the trick?07:20
Dyslexic_DogI have a problem trying to do updates on a fresh install can someone point me in the right direction link or something?07:20
naliothLinuturk: ah, well this is #ubuntu07:20
slimso, anyone? :) seems like it could be a problem with what order the services start up...but I did it according the howto so I am at a loss...07:21
dortonalioth: did the modification you suggested, i still get the error 'you don't have the permissions...' when i try to access /media/hda507:21
twystedTheDracle> hmmm07:21
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naliothdorto: check your link perms07:21
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gunfushello07:22
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naliothdorto: the perms on /media/hda<whatever>07:22
gunfusI am a newbie in ubuntus.. and I am getting problems installing it07:22
Wilfis there a command line way to find temperatures of cpu's?07:22
TheDracleOh well. I'll keep messing with it. It is not too urgent right now.07:22
Wilflmsensors is not installing for me07:22
gunfusthe problems are when trying to install GRUB07:22
dortonalioth: dr-x------07:22
MadpilotWilf: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto07:23
Madpilot?07:23
naliothdorto: make them all readable by all users07:23
dortonalioth: only owner can read them, i tried to change those permissions but i was denied07:23
Wilfhave now :P07:23
TheDracleI need to be heading off to the midnight showing of "Brokeback Mountain" with my wife. Thanks anyway.07:23
dortonalioth: chmod and chown both give me the error: file system read only07:23
intelikeyGoldfisch ls /etc/rc1.d  | grep S         the init script  single is supposed to call sulogin  which logs in root automaticly07:23
NoWhereToTurn[00:20]  <Linuturk> nalioth, lshw? doesn't work07:23
naliothdorto: use sudo (from console) to change them07:23
NoWhereToTurn[00:20]  <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could use07:23
NoWhereToTurnoops07:23
NoWhereToTurn[00:20]  <Linuturk> nalioth, lshw? doesn't work07:23
NoWhereToTurn[00:20]  <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could use07:23
NoWhereToTurngeez07:23
gunfushas anyone experienced problems installing GRUB?07:23
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gerald-voltgunfus: no07:24
naliothNoWhereToTurn: what are you trying to do?07:24
dortonalioth: yeah, i used sudo, but get this error: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hda1': Read-only file system07:24
gerald-voltgunfus: I thought it installs it automatically for you07:24
NoWhereToTurnthe init- parma is that in addition to the info that is already in the line for the recovery mode?07:24
slimanyone here smart on wpa configuration (specifically making sure wpasupplicant starts up before networking)07:24
dortonalioth: the cmd i used : sudo chmod +r /media/hda?07:24
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Wilfthanks Madpilot :>07:24
naliothdorto: try the perms in /dev/hda107:24
MadpilotWilf: np07:24
sethkNoWhereToTurn, I just checked, and lshw works just fine for me07:24
naliothdorto: no. those are not the ones07:24
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gunfusgerald-volt, it does install it automaticly.. but it hangs everytime..07:25
intelikeyinit=/bin/bash    and it is the emergency 'back door' to your system.07:25
twystedTheDracle> id try putting a * in it just incase if all else fails it just wont work anyways lol07:25
NoWhereToTurnlshw???07:25
Goldfischintelikey: Okay, I found that in /etc/inittab. It has sulogin to be executed in case you go to single-user mode.07:25
AdmiralCrunchalright, so is anyone here on the 2.6.12?07:25
NoWhereToTurnThis is 5.04 of Ubuntu07:25
naliothNoWhereToTurn: sudo lshw will show you all about your system07:25
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dortonalioth: perm for /dev/hda1: brw-rw----  1 root disk 3, 1 2005-12-30 16:37 /dev/hda107:25
twystedintelikey> why are you making it as hard as you can for that guy to login as root in single user mode? lol07:25
AdmiralCrunchalright, so is anyone here on the 2.6.12 the kernel that is?07:26
intelikeytwysted what ?07:26
NoWhereToTurnIn order to issue the sudo lshw command aI have to get rid of this login prompt that I can not get past07:26
naliothdorto: i'm at a loss atm, i'm tired and need sleep. there are others who can help you with these perms07:26
nurfeCan anybody help me with fixing a peice of source of the AR5k.C for Atheros Regin ID Fixes?07:26
MadpilotAdmiralCrunch: 2.6.12 is Breezy's standard kernel, AFAIK07:26
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dortonalioth: ok, thank you very much for bearing with me :) sleep well.07:27
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naliothdorto: you have the correct fstab07:27
dortok07:27
naliothdorto: it's a local perms problem now, i suspect07:27
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dortok07:27
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dortoi need to investigate all the perm then07:27
AdmiralCrunchMadpilot could you do me a big favor and run a menuconfig to see if it supports a PROMISE SATAII150 TX4 PCI SATA Controller Card? My friend really needs some help07:27
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intelikeytwysted i suspect foul play in the init scripts on his box he says booting to single gives a login prompt.   and having no root password and user accounts borked; what would you sujest ?07:28
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cafuegoAdmiralCrunch: It does, they're obiquitous.07:28
AdmiralCrunchcafuego thank you07:29
twystedintelikey> if he uses the failsafe it should just throw him into the root user not a login prompt07:29
cafuegoAdmiralCrunch: Mind you, that's from memory, not from actually checking the config.07:30
slimanyone for a wpa question  ? :)07:30
twystedintelikey>  i would suggest booting off of the live cd07:30
AdmiralCrunchcafuego well, are you at least pretty sure on that one?07:30
cafuegoAdmiralCrunch: yes07:30
twystedand setup his drive so he can go in and fix the users and scripts07:30
AdmiralCrunchcafuego alright, cool07:30
intelikeytwysted that assumes a live cd on hand.  :)07:30
twystedintelikey>  install cd works as well ;)07:31
intelikeyyes but no better than init=/bin/bash   lol07:31
Hoxzer_lol xine seem not to play subs anymore :D07:31
Hoxzer_like "..."07:31
NoWhereToTurnwell it looks liek that is all she wrote for ubuntu here07:31
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Hoxzer_haven't changed anything07:31
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intelikeyNoWhereToTurn you can boot a cd ?07:33
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Mabus06How do I get a second desktop on my TV with s-video?07:33
tritiumMabus06, nvidia?07:34
Mabus06ATI07:34
slimanyone willing to answer a wpa question?07:34
NoWhereToTurninetllikey probably will have to dig a live cd from one of the distros here07:34
tritium!tell slim about ask07:35
slimkind of hard to put the question in one line :)07:36
twystedslim just ask ;)07:36
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intelikeyNoWhereToTurn you can work on passwords and user accounts from the cd with the  chroot  command    if you want to try that way to fix it.     "and i note this as a classic example of why the root password should be set"07:36
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sethkintelikey, yes, quite true.07:37
slimI did.. a ways back and no one answered. I realize there is a certain etiquette, and I am trying to be polite. :)07:37
_ian_how come people from undernet in #ubuntu channel speak other languages?07:37
PeteyPabloi'm trying to run a program and i get this error: ./zds: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:37
PeteyPablo -- i have the c++ files installed any ideas?07:37
sethkslim, people come and go a lot.  It is ok to ask again after a reasonable amount of time.07:37
sethk_ian_, because they live in other countries?07:38
_ian_i dont know...perhaps yes but how about the people who want to ask for help that cant under stand em? hehe07:38
sethkPeteyPablo, try changing your LD_LIBRARY_PATH in a terminal window and running it.07:38
sethkPeteyPablo, if that works you can muck around with your ld.so configuration07:38
PeteyPablosethk: how do i go about with that?07:38
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sethkPeteyPablo, just:    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/directorywith/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.207:39
slimok: I set up WPA on my laptop according to the howto in the ubuntu forums. It seemed to work well, but when I rebooted, I had to restart networking in order to actually get web access. Otherwise the browswer times out trying to retrieve a page.07:39
sethkPeteyPablo, like any other path, only this one is for shared libraries07:39
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SturgeonThat assuming he does have that library07:39
sethkSturgeon, I think he said he has it.07:39
PeteyPablosethk: so do i just paste this in terminal?  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/directorywith/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.207:39
Sturgeonoh right07:39
GoldfischHe could type locate libstdc+-libc6.1-1.so.2, and see it the file is on his system.07:39
sethkPeteyPablo, no, because you replace "directorywith..." with a real directory name07:40
sethkPeteyPablo, I don't know what directory the file is in on your system07:40
Goldfisch!locate07:40
ubotuGoldfisch: What?07:40
PeteyPablowhen i do locate nothing happens.07:40
sethkPeteyPablo, that is not true.  when you do locate, your system queries your file database and finds all occurances of whatever you told it to locate07:41
intelikeyalso the export command will be looking for =  not  :    methinks07:41
PeteyPablosethk: i mean i just did it and nothing happend07:41
intelikeyah nm my bad07:41
Goldfisch!locate07:41
ubotulocate is probably a tool to find files located on your system. 'locate bash' for example will find the location of your file.07:41
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PeteyPablopete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$ locate libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.207:41
PeteyPablopete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$07:41
intelikeytime to clean my glasses07:41
sethkPeteyPablo, I know, but that's not true.  the fact that there was no output indicates that either (1) it isn't there or (2) you have to run updatedb07:41
Goldfischsudo updatedb07:42
dortowhatever we download and install through apt-get/synaptic, does ubuntu keep a copy of packages somewhere which i can copy to the media so that i don't have to download from internet next time?07:42
sethkPeteyPablo, by your own paste, it isn't true that nothing happened.  At the very least, it typed  pete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$07:42
QMarioIs the channel okay now?07:42
sethkintelikey, I thought I had an = there07:42
sethkQMario, that's a question like "is anybody here?"07:42
PeteyPablosethk: that was just the directory i was in07:42
Goldfischdorto: Well, the stuff gets pulled down to /var/cache/apt.07:42
intelikey<intelikey> ah nm my bad07:42
sethkPeteyPablo, I know that07:42
QMarioSethk, huh?07:43
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sword-whats up07:43
sword-hey07:43
sethkPeteyPablo, if you installed the library recently it might not show up yet with locate07:43
dortoGoldfisch: i can just copy everything from apt directory to my dvds?07:43
sword-any of you have an rca lyra?07:43
sethkQMario, if the channel weren't ok, nobody could tell you that07:43
PeteyPablosethk: was not recently, i did sudo updatedb did locate again still nothing07:43
QMarioSethk, true. ;)07:43
sethkPeteyPablo, ok07:43
dortoGoldfisch: or just some specific files from there?07:43
sethkPeteyPablo, then it isn't there, even though you said it is.07:43
QMarioWill Ubuntu support Blu-Ray Discs and Drives?07:43
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Hoxzer_how do I change the size of subtitles in mplayer?07:43
PeteyPablosethk: i just mean i have the libraries installed, i tried to apt-get them and it said i had the newest ver already..07:44
sethkPeteyPablo, you may be able to fool it with a sym link, but I suspect maybe you have a more serious problem.07:44
sethkPeteyPablo, it isn't looking for the newest version, which is your problem07:44
sethkPeteyPablo, you have to install the version it is looking for07:44
Goldfischdorto: I keep a backup list of what packages are currently installed --> dpkg --get-selections > /mypackages.txt07:44
PeteyPablosethk: ok.. how do i do that?07:44
sethkPeteyPablo, which can coexist with the newest version07:44
sethkPeteyPablo, if it isn't in the repositories, you'll have to google for it.07:44
NoWhereToTurnintelikey I used to have a Ubuntu lIve CD but the only ones I can find are Knoppix ones07:44
Goldfischdorto: That way, I know what to reinstall next time. That way, I will be installing the updated releases for those packages as well.07:44
PeteyPablolibstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.207:44
arai have installed Java on my system but i still can't view java based websites, what's wrong?07:44
PeteyPablois that what i need?07:45
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn that should work07:45
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ilba7r!ndiswrapper07:45
ubotundiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper07:45
PeteyPablosethk: i found an rpm for it, can i use alien?07:46
dortoGoldfisch: oh, nice way. thank you.07:46
sethkPeteyPablo, I'm not sure, I don't use alien.  dpkg is fine.  possibly alien is fine, but I don't know.07:46
tonyyarussoara: It probably isn't registered as a plugin with your browser.07:46
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aratonyyarusso, how do i do it?07:47
tonyyarussoara: I'm trying to remember.07:47
tonyyarussoara: How did you install Java?  (debs or compile yourself?)07:47
tonyyarussoara: What browser are you using?07:48
arafirefox07:48
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GoRoDeKhow do i get the version number of an installed package?07:48
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NoWhereToTurnintelikey booted up the cd07:49
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn do you have the hard drive partition with ubuntu on it mounted some place that you can find ?07:49
PeteyPablointelikey: didn't work07:49
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gerald-voltanyone know what package I need to install to fix this problem07:49
gerald-voltlibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:49
intelikeyPeteyPablo what didn't work ?07:50
aratonyyarusso, did you remember?07:50
PeteyPablointelikey: converting to .deb, the conversion worked but then the .deb was unusable07:50
tonyyarussoara: Yeah, I think I got it.  But I need to know your Java version and where you got it from to point you to the right directories.07:50
Mabus06How do I get a second desktop on my TV with s-video?07:50
intelikeyPeteyPablo that was someone else.07:50
NoWhereToTurnintelikey .. ya have it open in the browser in Knoppix07:50
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(intelikey/#ubuntu) NoWhereToTurn but is it the ubuntu root on the hdd or the knoppix root in ram ?08:13
(ara/#ubuntu) pl_ice i already check synaptic08:13
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(NoWhereToTurn/#ubuntu) ya08:13
(tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) ara: Chances are that doing it through Synaptic will automatically load the plugin for Firefox too.08:14
(humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: you'll need to add an entry such as this:08:14
(intelikey/#ubuntu) see that is what chroot does. it ch(anges)root(/)08:14
(humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: /dev/sda2 /mnt/music ntfs noauto,user,ro 0 008:14
(pl_ice/#ubuntu) ara there is a file : /etc/apt/sources.list where u add stuff so u can download more packages from synaptic, u have to unblock it ..08:14
(NoWhereToTurn/#ubuntu) NoWhereToTurn but is it the ubuntu root on the hdd or the knoppix root in ram ? <-- on hd08:14
(tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice: If he had it installed and we could figure out where, it's a matter of placing a symlink in the firefox directory.08:14
(tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice, Unblock? What does that mean?08:15
(humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: but make sure the /dev/? and /mnt/? are accurate for your system08:15
(pl_ice/#ubuntu) tonyyarusso he's got any log files? ...08:15
(annibis/#ubuntu) ok08:15
(intelikey/#ubuntu) ok then if root owns /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow you should only run passwd08:15
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(annibis/#ubuntu) but its not a ntfs drive08:15
(QMario/#ubuntu) How do I get the library file, "qt-mt"?08:15
(tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) ara: If you aren't comfortable with text files, Synaptic has an Add Sources tool built in too.08:15
(annibis/#ubuntu) its just a slave for ubuntu08:15
(intelikey/#ubuntu) and reboot NoWhereToTurn08:15
(ara/#ubuntu) pl_ice: ok its giving me like 100 options , which one should i choose?08:15
(tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice, Not that I know of yet.08:15
humbraroO, well thats different - for some reason I thought it was....08:15
humbrarowhat type of filesystem is it?08:16
annibisext308:16
humbrarosame line then, just replace ntfs with ext308:16
annibisok08:16
annibisthnks08:16
slideHow can i see how much memory I have?08:17
NoWhereToTurnok rebooting now intelikey08:17
tonyyarussoara: Do your search for j2re instead of java to narrow the results list.08:17
intelikeyfree slide08:17
Goldfischslide: top lists memory at the top08:17
Motoko-chanfree in console08:17
humbrarothen you should be able to type "mount /dev/music"08:17
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slidety :)08:17
pl_iceara that's what my looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6370, adding dodgy links there will break things ...08:17
PeteyPablocan anyone help me with a bad dynamic library load path?08:17
annibisive already mounted it08:17
tonyyarussoara: If you have multiverse enabled, you'll see 1.4, and if you added the PLF repo, you'll also see sun-1.5.08:17
aratonyyaruso: yeah i have it enabled08:18
nekostaranyone know about making ASS softsubs work in linux?08:18
intelikeyslide don't be missled, free does not show the real free ram but the un-allocated ram.  part of the used ram it shows is only allocated out but not used.08:18
nekostarmplayer/vlc FAIL08:18
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pl_icehave fun :) i'm off to buy more laptop parts :D08:18
humbraroannibis: umount then mount again then, see if it makes a difference08:18
annibisok08:19
PeteyPablocan anyone help me with a bad dynamic library load path?08:19
slimhello all, got bumped, hope no one tried to answer my wpa question while I was gone..but now that I am here again :)08:19
tonyyarussoara: So are you seeing it in your list yet?08:19
Motoko-chanPlease ask08:19
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intelikeyPeteyPablo have you installed the library yet ?08:19
aratonyyaruso: yeah i just installed it , let me see if it works08:20
NoWhereToTurnThank goodness it worked intelikey08:20
PeteyPablointelikey: i can't find it :-((((08:20
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn of course it worked.08:20
slimwpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?08:20
tonyyarussoara: Okay.08:20
QMarioIf I install the KDE Library on my computer, nothing will happen to it,  right?08:20
aratonyyaruso: no it doesn't work my friend08:21
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SturgeonQMario: It will happen something.08:21
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn you probably still can't login to gnome yet?08:21
SturgeonQMario: It will then have KDE.08:21
PeteyPablointelikey: all i can find are .rpms08:21
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Motoko-chanWell, it will probably install.08:21
QMarioSturgeon, really?08:21
SturgeonWith high probability, yes.08:21
GoldfischSturgeon: lol08:21
QMarioSturgeon, but I only installed the kdelibs, will it crash?08:21
NoWhereToTurnintelikey no was able to login using another user accoutn08:21
SturgeonQMario: Why would it crash?08:22
humbraroannibis: looking back at your original question - is it all the directories on the drive that are owned by root?  Those can be changed easily08:22
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intelikeyPeteyPablo enable the extended repositories (universe & multiverse)  and find it with apt-cache search <name>08:22
QMarioStrugeon, can GNOME and KDE coexist without problems?08:22
PeteyPablointelikey: i have them enabled it doesn't have the one i need08:22
intelikey!ubotu tell PeteyPablo about repos08:22
SturgeonQMario: yes08:22
QMarioHave you done it?08:22
PeteyPablointelikey: i have them, it doesnt have the version i need i guess08:22
intelikeyok08:22
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annibisyes08:23
calamariis it possible to determine how many inodes I will need to store some files?08:23
aratonyyaruso: do i need a reboot?08:23
NoWhereToTurnintelikey.. thanks again for all the help and sticking with me08:23
SturgeonQMario: yes. You'll find info about that in the docs08:23
annibisthe whole drive is owned by root08:23
QMarioAnnibis, were you answering me?08:23
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn good then you have only to add the new user account to the sudoers file and badabing you're fixed.08:23
annibisno08:23
humbraroin that case, "cd /path/to/drive"08:23
tonyyarussoara: No.08:24
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NoWhereToTurnaccount to the sudoers file ??08:24
annibiswoulnt that be cd hdb1/08:24
humbrarothen "sudo chown -R user:group ./*"08:24
humbraroDO NOT forget to put that leading dot in front of the slash08:25
GnarlyBobsudo rm -rf / ?08:25
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn only if you want the user to be able to use sudo.   not needed on a system that has the root password set really.08:25
annibiswhats the commad to cd to that drive08:25
QMarioSturgeon, where do I get the KDE Headers from?08:25
GnarlyBob(by the way, if you haven't figured it out, don't take my advice)08:25
annibisthe path to it08:25
humbrarowell, it depends on where you mounted it08:25
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annibisin dev its hdb1 in mnt its F08:25
SturgeonQMario: you can use synaptic to install kde08:25
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humbraroa drive is just a drive, you have to mount a filesystem on the drive somewhere in your system, then go there and change ownership of the files there08:26
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn reason i mentioned it, your user probably can't run synaptic or other system apps.08:26
tritiumGnarlyBob, please don't even joke that way08:26
GnarlyBobHey, we used to do exactly such things, and people often followed the advice, in the really old days of #linux08:26
QMarioSturgeon, will I still be able to use GNOME?08:26
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SturgeonQMario: YES!08:27
Ferris_Bevening all08:27
QMarioSturgeon, I can't be too careful. ;)08:27
aratonyyaruso: ok i located the j2re file08:27
slimwpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?08:27
plagerismAnyone know much about SATA drives?  I am currently finding that burning from my SATA drive to my PATA dvd burner, is slower than when I was burning from my PATA drive to the same dvd burner? Anyone experiencing similar problems?? Or know of a solution?08:27
QMarioSturgeon, sorry for the hassle. :'(08:27
Ferris_BI apt-get installed apache2, as well as php5, but when I attempt to view phpinfo.php, apache just sends it to me as a download. Any ideas?08:28
intelikeyQMario you can have ALL the linux desktop/window managers  installed at once.  but only run one at a time.  :)08:28
tonyyarussoara: You mean in /usr/lib now?  (And have you tested Firefox to see if it did it automatically?)08:28
PeteyPablointelikey: what do i do :-(08:28
Ferris_BI also managed to nuke the /etc/init.d/apache2 file, amd reinstalling apache doesn't bring it back08:28
QMarioIntelikey, I just want the KDE Headers.08:28
plagerismI have read a lot of posts saying that removing ide_generic from the kernel(allowing libata to handle the burner) may help, but nothing definative08:28
GoldfischFerris_B: What about the apache-php5 library that joins them together?08:28
annibishumbaro, it gives me an error08:28
QMarioIntelikey,  "you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed".08:29
Ferris_Bis that the mod php one?08:29
annibisuser:group invlalid user08:29
humbrarook, the username should be a real username, and the group should be a real group08:29
aratonyyaruso: no , not there, it's in the folder on my desktop08:29
humbraroa good place to start would be with your username and default group08:29
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intelikeyQMario apt-get kde-devel   i think08:30
GoldfischFerris_B: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?08:30
mebaran151hey08:30
annibisso like annibis:default08:30
mebaran151I can't seem to get Kopete to work as I'd like in Kubuntu08:30
humbrarosuch as chown annibis:users or annibis:annibis08:30
calamarihmm.. is ext2 less efficient than fat?  trying to fit some files on an ext2 floppy that fit on a fat one, but can't seem to08:30
mebaran151it won't automagically do the tabbing for me08:30
annibisok08:30
mebaran151despite the number of times I select the option08:30
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Ferris_Byes, libapache2-mod-php is installed08:30
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aratonyyaruso: should i move it to /usr/lib ????08:30
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humbraroannibis: if you type "ls -l ~" you'll get your username and group listed on all the files there08:31
annibishumbaro, it works now thanks for your help08:31
tonyyarussoara: Are you trying to tell me that installing with Synaptic somehow places things on your desktop??08:31
humbrarocool, glad to help08:31
QMarioIntelikey, so how will I tell Ubuntu to run GNOME, not KDE?08:32
aratonyyaruso:  no, this is the one which i installed it manually , myself08:32
intelikeyhumbraro no,  add -A to that08:32
ilba7rhi i have installed ndiswrapper the driver is present, hardware present and after configuring it and bringing it up i can not ping my router. Any udeas?08:32
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Ferris_BI'd really like to just remove all the apache/php stuff completely and reinstall, but whenever I apt-get remive and then reinstall, it seems a lot of files still linger. How does one completely remove them?08:32
humbrarointelikey: ls -a just shows hidden files, -l shows more than just names08:32
aratonyyaruso: i did with synaptic too, but it still won't work08:32
QMarioIntelikey?08:32
SturgeonQMario: You can choose when you start the session08:32
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GoldfischFerris_B: dpkg -P <pkg> <--- purge everything including config files08:32
Sturgeonif you're using KDE or Gnome08:32
intelikeyyou wont have too QMario08:32
Ferris_Bahhh08:32
intelikeyit will load gnome08:33
slimdir08:33
ilba7riwlist scan work fine but can not ping the router although i disabled all securties on it :(08:33
mebaran151oh08:33
aratonyyaruso: do this j2re file need to be in /usr/lib???08:33
ilba7rit used to work with hoary now it isn't with breezy :(08:33
mebaran151how can I configure which menu items appear in either KDE or Gnome's menus?08:33
senectuswhats the command for viewing a log in real time.. so as stuff hit it you get that on the screen?08:33
mebaran151I'd like to put the KDE stuff with KDE and Gnome's in Gnome08:33
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Goldfischsenectus: tail -f <foobar>08:33
ilba7rmebaran just left click on the menu with the mouse08:33
ilba7ror type smeg in a terminal08:33
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intelikeyunless you install kdebase QMario it will surely load gnome by default.   and if you install full kde it will let you choose which desktop to load when you log in.08:34
tonyyarussoara: There should be a j2re-something directory in /usr/lib is it was actually installed by anything.  So you say you did Synaptic too?  Where'd that go then?08:34
senectusGoldfisch, thanks..08:34
senectuswhich log file is it in apache2 that logs website hits?08:35
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Goldfischsenectus: I believe /var/log/apache/access.log08:35
slimwpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?08:35
intelikeyback to humbraro,  yes i like  ls -lAsh ~    my self.08:35
GnarlyBobis there a repository that might have firefox 1.5?08:35
Goldfischsenectus: Err.../var/log/apache2/access.log08:36
Inf3ctedFxGnarlyBob: let me give ua guidfe u can install Firefox from the installer08:36
GoldfischMy fingers don't have the muscle-memory to add the extra "2" onto every pathname now needed for apache2.08:36
aratonyyaruso: it's jvm, and there are some java files  and folders inside08:36
senectusGoldfisch, my access.log is utterly empty  and hitting the site adds nothing to it08:36
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Inf3ctedFxGoldfisch: here u have -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:37
aratonyyaruso: there's also jre folder in there08:37
Inf3ctedFxi used it and it works just fine 4 me08:37
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GnarlyBobInf3ctedFx: thank you knindly08:38
GnarlyBobkindly too08:38
intelikeyecho 'alias l="ls -lAsh"' >> ~.bashrc08:38
Inf3ctedFxn/p Goldfisch08:38
GnarlyBobmight want to work on your nick completion btw ;)08:38
tonyyarussoara: Okay, look in the jre for plugin/08:38
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Goldfischsenectus: Make sure you are freshly hitting the web site, and not your browser's cache. Do a Ctrl-F5.08:39
Goldfischsenectus: My access.log is filled with traffic from hitting my wiki web site.08:39
MonoJ0keri'm getting a fatal error when i try to run tightvncserver - could not open default font 'fixed' - anyone know what is borked?08:39
senectusGoldfisch, hmm that changed nothing..08:40
Alltakeni am trying to download themes, but what is the difference between GDM, matacity, GTK.... makes no sense to me08:40
GoldfischMonoJ0ker: Yes. I ran into that issue. There is a font file that is missing a space. It breaks the whole thing. I can't remember which file, but it is like a one-line edit.08:40
w4f7zanyone know where i can get firefox 1.5 resoprosities08:40
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intelikeyhas it made the repos yet ?08:41
w4f7zim asumeing that i need some 3rd party one08:41
humbraronot in repos when i checked earlier08:41
tonyyarussow4f7z, intelikey: I don't think so.08:41
ilba7r_anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?08:41
MonoJ0kerGoldfisch: bummer i can't find the name of the file on google either :(08:41
tonyyarussow4f7z, I got it from the mozilla site and installed on my own.08:41
tonyyarussow4f7z, Used these instructions:08:42
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EpPhey08:42
intelikeyna i didn't think it was...08:42
tonyyarusso!tell w4f7z about firefox1508:42
GoldfischMonoJ0ker: Give me a second. I remember reading about it there....08:42
intelikeythere was a wiki on it tho08:42
EpPhow is everyone?08:42
tonyyarussoara: Status report?08:42
intelikeyEpP houngry..... bbiab08:42
w4f7ztonyyarusso, yeah i did that, but some of my plugins and configs are tweeked cuz i still have 1.0.7 (or w/e) installed08:42
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EpPsup08:43
w4f7zyo08:43
aratonyyarusso: there is no plugin folder, there are some folders in there but no plunin08:43
tonyyarussow4f7z, Right.08:43
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tonyyarussoara: Okay, to limit confusion, I want you to tell me full paths for the places we're talking about.  Along with exactly what you installed with Synaptic.08:44
aratonyyarusso: shouldn't this j2re file be moved to mozilla-firefox plugin folder?08:44
tonyyarussoara: No.08:44
humbrarothe adblock extension on 1.5 is cool - it autoupdates the filter08:44
tonyyarussoara: If we can find what we want, we'll be putting a symlink to it there.08:44
GnarlyBobI couldn't get adblock working in 1.5 on windoze, about to try it on linux08:44
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aratonyyarusso: i installed java 1.408:45
aratonyyarusso: with synaptic08:45
humbraroworked fine for me on a windoze box yesterday08:45
tonyyarussoara: Okay.08:45
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humbrarobut thats windows - inconsistant at best08:45
aratonyyarusso: and the path is /usr/lib/jvm/08:46
Inf3ctedFxHey ppl I have a question, if I have a 60 Gi HDD slave on my box, can I install linux on that one then make it run without change the boot system on my Bios?08:46
aratonyyarusso: and there's no plugin folder in there08:46
tonyyarussoara: Do you have a /usr/lib/j2se? (With an S instead of an R?)08:47
Inf3ctedFxara: whats the proble ur Java?08:47
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tonyyarussoara: (That's a difference between the 1.5 and 1.4, I had thought you were still trying 1.5)08:47
humbraroInf3ctedFx: the short answer is yes08:47
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Mitrovarrhow do I set the cc environment variable?08:47
tonyyarussoInf3ctedFx, So far, it's lost.08:47
Inf3ctedFxhumbraro:  how?08:47
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marccdhow can I add a user to a group?08:47
NikusanWhen I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".08:47
NikusanCan anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?08:47
marccdMitrovarr: CC=whaver08:48
Inf3ctedFxtonyyarusso:  is ara  using or updating to firefox 1.5?08:48
aratonyyarusso: no i don't have such a folder like that08:48
marccdMitrovarr: or export CC=whatever08:48
tonyyarussoInf3ctedFx, Not to my knowledge.08:48
Inf3ctedFxbecause I had the same problem b4, but now is working just fine08:48
tonyyarussoara: Uhh, okay...08:48
humbraroInf3ctedFx: its not the safest thing in the world, but you can install $bootloader on your primary drive, which allows you to boot other drives08:48
MitrovarrI tried that but the NVIDIA installer won't accept that, it still complains about having the wrong compiler08:48
Inf3ctedFxhumbraro: why u say is not the safest thing?08:49
ilba7r_ara you can see what sympolic link you are using type which java , If it is in /usr/bin type ls -l /usr/bin/java , the output will tell you where your files are08:49
Inf3ctedFxwell ara  or tonyyarusso  if is anything that I can help, let me know08:49
MonoJ0kerok i've tried a fix in the config08:49
MonoJ0kernow when i type it from the kommand window it says:08:50
MonoJ0kerCreating default startup script /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup08:50
MonoJ0kerStarting applications specified in /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup08:50
MonoJ0kerLog file is /home/liam/.vnc/ross:1.log08:50
MonoJ0keris it running now?08:50
humbraroInf3ctedFx: you might have to overwrite the bootloader thats already on that drive - do you have a windows install on your primary drive?08:50
ilba7r_anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated08:50
intelikeymarccd  man usermod08:50
tonyyarussoChannel: Please confirm: Installing j2re1.4 (Blackdown Java) from Breezy Multiverse should create a directory /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/<architecture>/mozilla/?08:50
GoldfischMonoJ0ker: Can you tell me what exact font it is breaking on? Is it misc, 100dpi, 75dpi, what?08:51
Inf3ctedFxwell yes humbraro right now my master hdd is 200 gig, and I have 100 win, and 100 linux but also I have 2 slave 60 gig each.. so I want to know if I use one of those slave just linux, can I boot from there right?08:51
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MonoJ0keri think it's ok08:51
MonoJ0keri see xtightvnc running in the process table08:51
MonoJ0kerso i should be right?08:51
tonyyarussoInf3ctedFx, ^^ for how you can help.08:51
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GoldfischMonoJ0ker: Well, give it a whirl.08:52
aratonyyarusso: so what's next?08:52
MonoJ0kerbut i don't know how to find out the ip on here :(08:52
humbraroInf3ctedFx: yup, just make the partition you install to bootable, then add an entry in your bootloader for that partition (sdb1, or whatever)08:52
Inf3ctedFxwell I dont know tonyyarusso  with ara  problemm with some website with info08:52
MonoJ0kersorry i've been using kubuntu (and linux) for all of about 2 hours now08:52
MonoJ0kertotal n00b08:52
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cafuegoMonoJ0ker: run 'ifconfig'08:52
ilba7r_tonyyarusso, ara easiest open synaptic type java and look for the installed files you have08:53
Mitrovarrah, the proper command was export CC=gcc-3.408:53
tonyyarussoara: Finding your installation folder for Java, since we have yet to succeed.08:53
cafuegoMonoJ0ker: if you need the IP for remote access, lynx http://www.cc.com.au/ip.php08:53
Inf3ctedFxMonoJ0ker:  open terminal and type "ifconfig"08:53
araok let me check08:53
humbraroInf3ctedFx: you'll have to ask someone else for help if your using grub though, i'm still hanging on to lilo08:53
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ilba7r_ara it is in properties08:54
Inf3ctedFxok humbraro  thas ok man.. anyway I think 100 gig is better than 60 on another drive xD08:54
ilba7r_seems this laptop will never have wireless to fly:(08:55
arai have like 30 packages of java installed, i can't type all of them here, which one should i have?08:56
tonyyarussoara: j2re1.408:56
PeteyPablo1.5 runs alot smoother08:57
Mitrovarris there any good way to get multi-monitor support going without hand editing the xorg.conf?08:57
aratonyyarusso: i don't even have a package with that name in the list08:58
cafuegoSeveas: You awake?08:58
Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  how many monitors r u going to use?08:58
tonyyarussoara: Then what did you install??08:58
Mitrovarr208:58
Inf3ctedFx2 video cards?08:58
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Mitrovarrno, one two-header08:58
aratonyyarusso: it was java 1.408:58
Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  cuz I have the same problem b408:58
youngcoderanyone here use Dalnet?08:59
Inf3ctedFxI did it with 2 video cars08:59
nekostarive been trying to install ubuntu on a 600mhz celeron 128mb ram driven dell laptop [inspirion 4000]  and it hangs on the kernel install08:59
aratonyyarusso: that's what it told me08:59
Inf3ctedFxbut let me give u a guide here08:59
nekostarany clues why it would do that?08:59
Inf3ctedFxhold on08:59
nekostari even gave it like an hour08:59
cafuegonekostar: 'Dell' is a large clue. ;-)08:59
tonyyarussoara: What was the package name?08:59
Mitrovarrwell it can be done with hand-editing xorg.conf but I was hoping some nice shiny tool existed to make it less of a PITA08:59
nekostar. . .08:59
tonyyarussoara: What is 'it' that told you?08:59
nekostarso mean !_!08:59
WeBDsIgNNeRHow can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Is in windows...08:59
cafuegonekostar: Anything logged on terminals 2 through 4?08:59
WeBDsIgNNeRHow can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Its in windows...08:59
aratonyyarusso: synaptic08:59
nekostarlocks up actually heh08:59
tonyyarussoara: How did it tell you?09:00
EpPwhats a good free shell site?09:00
cafuegonekostar: I have a 500MHz celeron 128Mb dell craptop, I can mock them if I want to! :-)09:00
nekostardidnt see anything on the terminals either..09:00
gerald-voltWeBDsIgNNeR - is your windows FS ntfs?09:00
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nekostarLOL fair enough09:00
Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  here u go --> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html09:00
WeBDsIgNNeR[gerald-volt] : yes09:00
nekostarbesides ur right :P09:00
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gerald-volthttp://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs09:00
aratonyyarusso: how do i get that file in my list?09:00
Fanskapetara: uhm? ssh IP, nano /text/file.txt09:00
NikusanWhen I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".09:00
Nikusan Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?09:00
cafuegonekostar: THough I must admit that when in the dock it makes a fantabulous Edubuntu LTSP client.09:00
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nekostarltsp?09:01
nekostarwhats that?09:01
nekostarand i dont have a dock09:01
Mitrovarrthanks09:01
tonyyarussoara: You enable multiverse, which you previously claimed was already done.09:01
cafuegonekostar: The joy of admins worldwide :-)09:01
cafuego!ltsp09:01
ubotultsp is, like, when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server.09:01
nekostari just want it to watch anime on a big creen on the go09:01
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Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  I use this one even with dual head, is for Gentoo but also work perfect with Ubuntu  --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors09:01
nekostarthat didnt say much lol09:01
MitrovarrI do wish someone would make a good tool for multi-monitor though, it's annoying to have to hand-edit things every time I want to turn it on/off09:01
nekostarlike a thin client?09:01
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Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  is really EASY.. I spend maybe 4 days trying to make it work but when I found these HOWTO I see is really easy09:02
nekostarMitrovarr, you can09:02
nekostarmake a null multimode09:02
nekostarwhat vid card do you have09:02
N6REJI'm having a problem with a LVM partition.  its set as root ownership and I can't change it even as root.09:02
aratonyyarusso: i think i've done it , i was reading on one of the ubuntu help sites and i think i've done it09:02
Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  let me c ur xorg and I'll show u what do u need to add09:02
Mitrovarrgeforce 6600 gt09:02
humbraronekostar: check out ltsp.org - brings new life to all those old crappy machines you have lying around09:02
aratonyyarusso: how do i double check?09:03
nekostarawesome thanx humbraro09:03
Mitrovarrum, it's on a different computer09:03
tonyyarussoara: Tell me what you did.09:03
MitrovarrI can do the hand-editing actually.  I was just hoping someone would know of a tool.09:03
nekostari assume u mean dual or better monitors and turning off and on09:03
Inf3ctedFxok Mitrovarr  but I'm 100% sure it will work 4 u those howto09:03
N6REJhumbraro, how much does it slow down the machine its booting off of?09:03
tonyyarussoara: Then, in Synaptic, "Reload", and search for j2re again.09:03
nekostaryes im gonna give you a line to put in xorg09:03
tonyyarussoara: When it shows up in the list, you've added the repo.09:03
Mitrovarrplus the support seems a little buggy... this computer has tv-out going and it crashes every single time I leave X09:04
nekostar1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; null,1024x768; null,1280x102409:04
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N6REJcan anyone help with lvm?09:04
Inf3ctedFxif is possible 4 u to show me ur xorg I will help u better09:04
MonoJ0kerWarning! Remote Desktop will only work if there's a GNOME login session09:04
nekostaror swap where the nulls are09:04
cafuegonekostar: Is there a pcmcia card plugged in?09:04
nekostarput that in instead of just the dual mon resses09:04
nekostarsure isnt cafuego09:04
nekostarand its a fully offline install09:05
Mitrovarroh, so if I set one of the null/res modes it'll only display on one monitor?09:05
nekostaryup09:05
Mitrovarrhey, that's awesome09:05
Mitrovarrthanks09:05
nekostarand it shows in the res options09:05
nekostar:)09:05
QMarioAre there any avi to mpeg converters out there for Linux?09:05
Inf3ctedFxn/p Mitrovarr09:05
cafuegoQMario: mencoder09:05
Mitrovarrthat way I can finally have this computer shut down without crashing!  woot!09:05
nekostarwait09:05
Inf3ctedFxyep :)09:05
nekostarthats not gonna fix that09:05
Mitrovarroh09:05
ilba7r_anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated09:05
nekostaryouve got a bigger problem if its crashing09:05
MitrovarrI was hoping shutting down tv-out would make it not crash09:05
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nekostarb/c mine doesnt09:05
Mitrovarrmaybe it's a hardware issue?09:06
Mitrovarrit hard-crashes09:06
nekostarexplain exactly whats going on09:06
Mitrovarrtotal lockup09:06
nekostarplz09:06
humbraroN6REJ: well, that depends on what apps your using, but the overhead isn't too bad09:06
Mitrovarrwell, if I leave X with the tv-out enabled, it hard-crashes09:06
nekostardo you have logs ?09:06
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nekostarah09:06
Mabus06what should the permissions on .dmrc be?09:06
nekostarthere was a config i found when googling dual monitor xorg for gentoo09:06
Inf3ctedFxP3L|C4N0:  gusto en verte por aki :)09:06
MitrovarrI have some xorg logs.  Which one would it be?09:06
N6REJhumbaro, ok cool, my kids will like that.09:06
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nekostarau;todetects for a tv09:06
humbraroN6REJ: RAM is more of a concern than anything09:06
Inf3ctedFxmmm09:06
N6REJanyone know how to change permissions on a lvm partition?09:07
nekostarlook at the end of the logs when its crashing09:07
Inf3ctedFxMitrovarr:  is ur video card nvidia right?09:07
nekostarill see if i can find that link for ya09:07
humbraroN6REJ: mine do :)09:07
Mitrovarryeah09:07
Inf3ctedFxlet me check here something09:07
tonyyarussoara, You still alive?09:07
Inf3ctedFxdid u install the drivers do u?09:07
Mitrovarrthe drivers from the repository09:07
Inf3ctedFxyes, apt-get install nvidia09:07
Mitrovarrnvidia driver, 3-d accel and everything09:07
aratonyyarusso: i am , trying to find out if i'va done the multiverse or no?09:07
Inf3ctedFxok09:07
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tonyyarussoara: Waiting for Synaptic to reload the list?09:08
Mitrovarrhmm09:08
Mitrovarrdo I put those nulls in the screen0 or the screen1 section?09:08
aratonyyarusso: i did look, i can't find09:08
tonyyarussoara: Then, no.09:09
tonyyarussoara: (You never did tell me how you thought you had done it.)09:09
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MonoJ0kerok so i'm installing ubunut-desktop09:09
Inf3ctedFxwell Mitrovarr  the only thing I see here is u need just to tell xorg u have 2 monitores, give the detaisl about the monitores like Horiz and Ver sync and also turn off the xinerama09:09
ilba7r_are install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin09:09
MonoJ0keri should be able to login to a gnome session then right?09:09
N6REJSeveas, can you help with lvm permissions?09:09
tonyyarussoara: In Synaptic, try going to Settings > Repositories.09:09
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gerald-volter09:09
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Mitrovarrbrb, restarting x server09:09
tonyyarussoara: Click Add.09:09
ilba7r_i guess that is what you are looking for ara, tonyyarusso09:09
EpPI have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?09:10
tonyyarussoara: Check the box for "Multiverse".09:10
Inf3ctedFxlook Mitrovarr  let me show u my xorg with 2 video cards so maybe u have an idea09:10
aratonyyarusso: ok, hold09:10
tonyyarussoilba7r_, We'll need that, but not before we can get Java to start with.09:10
nekostarhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-44463.html09:10
N6REJnobody knows how to work with lvm?09:10
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nekostarthat SHOULD work for the tv09:10
intelikeyoh how quaint, the initrd is useless on the live cd when trying to boot from the hdd ......09:10
tonyyarussoilba7r_, (I think mine actually did the plugin automatically without that package, but whatever.)09:10
ilba7r_tonyyarusso i thought that jre is already installed :)09:11
tonyyarussoilba7r_, Oh, we'd like to think so...09:11
nekostarhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors09:12
Inf3ctedFxu can check nekostar  but I'm not sure09:12
ilba7r_ok will leave you then but if needed help will always be glad to lend a hand09:13
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tonyyarussoilba7r_, All right, thanks.09:13
ilba7r_!broadcom09:13
ubotuhmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards09:13
nekostarwhats that Inf3ctedFx ?09:13
nekostari got it working for my card09:13
nekostarbut i dont use the tv09:13
tonyyarussoAny idea how long it usually takes for the team to check out suggested specs posted on launchpad?  (Wondering when I might get a review for mine at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash)09:14
Inf3ctedFxis the VMware Player really good?09:14
nekostarbest thing to do is make two monitor display and device sections09:14
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nekostarive not used vmware09:14
intelikeyerrr is there something wrong with this line in the grub prompt,  'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1 '   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's  /boot  ?????09:14
GnarlyBobInf3ctedFx: it's as good as vmware workstation, only difference that I've been able to tell is you can't create a new vm from the player09:14
nekostarwhat are you trying to play?09:14
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Inf3ctedFxNekos:  here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637209:15
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intelikeygrub users ?09:15
tonyyarussointelikey, Yeah.09:15
aratonyyarusso: ok i went to setting-repositories-add and check the multiverse box and reloaded again , i still can't find a package called j2re09:15
nekostari use that intelikey09:15
Inf3ctedFxso GnarlyBob  I have in this machine just linux and then I instal VMware to install windows, it will work fine?09:15
nekostarlol09:15
intelikeyis that line trying to get the kernel from hdb1 ?09:16
nekostar!tell ara about restricted formats09:16
GnarlyBobyou need vmware workstation to create a windows vm that will load in the vmware player09:16
Inf3ctedFxnekostar:   here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637209:16
humbrarotonyyarusso: damn small linux can something similar to that with a flash drive09:16
Wilfcan xcdroast burn just data cd's?09:16
Wilfall isee is audio stuff...09:16
humbrarotonyyarusso: er, *do* something similar...09:16
tonyyarussoara: Okay, at this point I'm going to say ditch Synaptic, and ask you do use the cli for some stuff, so I have a better idea about what's going wrong, is that all right?09:16
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Inf3ctedFxmm GnarlyBob vm workstation?09:16
GnarlyBobInf3ctedFx: the regular "VMWare" that people have used for centuries09:17
GnarlyBobthe player is new09:17
GnarlyBobthey do offer a 30 day demo of workstation09:17
tonyyarussohumbraro, Yeah, I've heard that.  Hence my mention towards the bottom of hearing that other distros had that capability.  It would be nice if Ubuntu did.09:17
GnarlyBobI'm actually thinking about signing up for vmtn09:17
Inf3ctedFxlook GnarlyBob  i'm in this website;  http://www.vmware.com/products/player/09:17
GnarlyBobInf3ctedFx: yes, that will play an already-made virtual machine09:17
GnarlyBob"play" meaning "run"09:17
ilba7r_!broadcom09:18
uboturumour has it, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards09:18
TTilusWilf: i remember burning data cd's with xcdroast09:18
nekostarInf3ctedFx, just like that09:18
Mabus06what do I have to install from default in order to compile c++?09:18
nekostarbut you use the same pci etc for the vid cards and same for the svcrrens etc09:18
MonoJ0kerso is it possible to get vnc server to work on Kubuntu?09:18
nekostarjust make the identifiers different etc09:18
TTilusWilf: if you cant find how to create data cd, just try another prog09:18
liable!b-e09:18
ubotub-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.09:18
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: of course09:19
intelikeyhaving hda hdb hdc hdd all connected and all active in bios the line 'kernel'   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's09:19
TTilusWilf: k3b or like09:19
WilfTTilus, i'm using nautlus...heh09:19
MonoJ0kerthe instructions say you can only use remote desktop with a gnome login09:19
MonoJ0kerso fucks me09:19
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intelikeycause it's not on hdb09:19
humbrarotonyyarusso: dsl saves things like settings and bookmarks to a flash drive, I don't know if it can install software to one09:19
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MonoJ0kerkubuntu+gnome = ubuntu in my book09:19
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GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: that's just gnome's front end to the RDC or VNC or whatever09:19
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tonyyarussoara: In a terminal emulator window (Applications > Accessories > Terminal), do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.09:20
GnarlyBober... ubuntu + kde = kubuntu, in anyone's book :)09:20
Wilfwoah.09:20
tonyyarussohumbraro, Ah.09:20
Wilfthis is easy!09:20
aratonyyarusso: i just found it09:20
MonoJ0keri have tightvnc installed and running yet connection attempts from ultravnc fail09:20
MonoJ0kerevery time09:20
tonyyarussoara: What did you do differently?09:20
TTilusWilf: see you found it?09:20
aratonyyarusso: i typed in the search menu, j2re09:20
WilfTTilus, this is easier then with WinXP09:21
khaledhi.. i just install postgresql.. whats the default password for postgres user? i tried doing "su - postgres". i am getting a prompt for password09:21
tonyyarussoara: Okay......  Then what were you doing before?09:21
MonoJ0keri just want to get a way to connect to this linux machine with my xp machine09:21
MonoJ0kercan it really be that hard?09:21
aratonyyarusso: i was searching for java not j2re09:21
GnarlyBobyeah, k3b is arguably the easiest to use and most stable cd burning software on the market, commercial or otherwise09:21
tonyyarussoara: You'll want to install j2re.14 and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, probably with Firefox closed while you do so.09:21
khaledMonoJ0ker, firewall ?09:21
MonoJ0kernope09:21
MonoJ0keri can vnc to other machines on the network09:21
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tonyyarussoara: Which would be why I told you not to search for java, because the results list is ridiculous.09:22
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: something's awry with your vnc server setup then09:22
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nekostarInf3ctedFx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8307309:22
MonoJ0kerin fact if i boot this machine into windows then i can vnc into it09:22
Mabus06gcc: -E or -x required when input is from standard input09:22
khaledMonoJ0ker, can you ssh to the machine ?09:22
Mabus06I got this error, why?09:22
MonoJ0kerboot into linux - server connection failed09:22
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: need a bit more information than that09:22
MonoJ0kerkhaled no it's the only linux machine on the network09:22
GnarlyBoberror messages, what version/config vnc server you're running, etc09:22
khaledMonoJ0ker, you can get a ssh client for windows and give it a try09:22
aratonyyarusso: yeah, thank you very much for your help, i'm pretty new to linux , it's hard to work with but i like it09:22
P-NuTHi all, redhat has a kickstart file which you can make unattended installations with. Does Ubuntu have something similar?09:23
intelikeyi can never get grub to boot,  i don't speak gruby  or something.09:23
tonyyarussoara: Yeah, it can be.09:23
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tonyyarussoara: I picked up a disk through ShipIt in August.09:24
ilba7r_at last free at last its working now the damin broadcom chipset09:24
MonoJ0kererror message is "failed to connect to server"09:24
MonoJ0keri'm connecting from ultravnc in windows using the ip09:24
EpPI have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?09:24
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khaledMonoJ0ker, are you sure the server is running a vncserver ?09:24
MonoJ0keri thought vnc just worked usually09:24
z|banditolo09:24
MonoJ0kerbut then i've never tried it under linux09:24
khaledMonoJ0ker, yes it does09:24
GnarlyBoband is there a vnc server running at the time you try to connect, and on the right port etc?09:24
MonoJ0kerunder processes it shows the vnc service running09:25
aratonyyarusso: heeyyyyy, it works09:25
tonyyarussoIt was sort of interesting too.  That package kind of looked like a mail bomb.  From the Netherlands, somewhat unexpected given the delay, return address of just some shipping dock, no name, no description, bulky and padded.09:25
humbraroEpP: unfortunately, i haven't been able to find any sync software except for Palm, and some rsync hacks that kind of work on linux-based handhelds09:25
tonyyarussoIt was kind of nice to see that they changed the labeling for the Breezy ships.09:25
tonyyarussoara: Sweet.09:25
Mabus06How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?09:25
khaledMonoJ0ker, try running a vnc client in the linux machine and connect to self09:25
MonoJ0kerok09:26
humbraroEpP: if you find anything, please let me know, as i wanna upgrade my ancient palm m10009:26
MonoJ0keri don't have one installed i don't think09:26
aratonyyarusso: thanks anyway, i'm leaving, bye09:26
MonoJ0kerand vnc doesn't allow loopback connections does it?09:26
z|banditoanyone running ubuntu, or any linux, on an asus A8N SLI deluxe, particularly using the onboard raid?  it's an n-force 4 chipset with an extra raid controller.. i can't find much about it's linux compatibility on the web so far.. thanks! :)09:26
tonyyarussoara: Bye.09:26
GnarlyBobconnecting to yourself != loopback connection09:27
intelikeyi have these two lines 'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1  ; initrd (hd2,0)/boot/ubinitrd.img '   the root for that os is on hdb1 which should be bios (1,0)   and the grub system that was installed is on a pinguin on hdc1  which should be bios (hd2,0)    now where the hell is it trying to load the kernel and initrd from ?  which drive?09:27
QMarioCafuego, are you still there?09:27
GnarlyBobvnc 204.128.180.2 (my ip address) is not the same as vnc 127.0.0.109:27
QMarioHow do I use mencoder?09:27
MonoJ0keris there a way to bring up the vnc server app itself?09:27
MonoJ0kerall i can see is the process running09:27
GnarlyBobthere is no app09:27
MonoJ0kerwhat about a client app?09:28
khaledGnarlyBob, just trying to figure out if his server is working fine09:28
MonoJ0keri can ping the linux box ok09:28
intelikeyit's looking for the kernel on /dev/hdc1  correct ?09:28
GnarlyBobkhaled: yeah, it's obvious to me that it's not running with standard settings09:28
MonoJ0kerit's a brand new install09:28
khaledGnarlyBob, it might be cause of firewall too09:28
MonoJ0kerthe only thing i modified was the font path part of the config file to get the thing to run at all09:29
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MonoJ0kerthere is no firewall except on the router09:29
MonoJ0kerthese pcs are all inside the router09:29
MonoJ0kerdoes kubuntu have any inbuilt firewall settings?09:29
GnarlyBobno09:29
EpPI have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?09:29
EpPI have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?09:29
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Mabus06How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?09:30
MonoJ0kermaybe there's no place for an old windows user with linux :(09:30
khaledintelikey, yes.. its looking for kernel in /dev/hdc according to your conf file09:30
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: I've got a very similar setup here, and it works fine09:30
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MonoJ0kerit just can't be so hard to install a simple remote control tool...09:30
Mabus06MonoJ0ker, get firestarter09:30
khaledintelikey, trying using grub console .. you can use "Tab" key to help you09:31
GnarlyBoba windows laptop, able to use realvnc client to connect to the vnc server on my linux machine with no trouble09:31
eddyeHow do i install Ubuntu-Desktop without the Breezy Badger CD09:31
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EpPeddye...09:31
MonoJ0kerso what's left to check?09:31
MonoJ0kerthe service is installed and running09:31
EpPeddye, apt-get install kubuntu-Desktop09:31
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: the configuration of your vnc server and/or client09:31
MonoJ0kerpassword has been set09:31
intelikeyok thanks for the confirmation on that khaled,   grub console ?   i'm looking at that at the boot prompt now.09:31
GnarlyBobbest guess is that your client is trying to connect to a port that's different from what the server is listening on09:32
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eddyeEnP: what if  i mess something up09:32
tjb13my firefox crashes all the time... etf09:32
tjb13wt09:32
tjb13f09:32
eddyeas i know ubuntu and kubuntu arent the same09:32
eddye:)09:32
MonoJ0keri have vnc.conf open09:32
MonoJ0kerno mention of port number09:32
khaledintelikey, yes.. use the cd to boot up in rescue mode.. be root.. and type "grub" .. fix it and then reboot09:32
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: can you connect from a client running locally?09:33
eddyeEnP: i have to use the cd :) i don't have it anymore09:33
eddye:)09:33
MonoJ0kerwhat's a local client i can install?09:33
GnarlyBobe.g. try "vnc" or "vncviewer" or something from a shell prompt09:33
intelikeywhy not just hit [e]  and fix it and boot khaled ?09:33
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intelikeydone did.....09:33
EpPeddye, have you tried apt-get install ubuntu-Dektop?09:33
khaledtjb13, you have an alternative choice (opera)09:33
EpPDesktop*09:33
eddyeyes the same problem : ) i need cd :)09:33
khaledintelikey, i am not sure if the "tab" thing works there09:33
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tjb13khaled it stopped working after i installed this flash thing09:34
EpPget it...09:34
eddyeomg I'll have to find it09:34
eddyebye :)09:34
MonoJ0keri can run vncviewer09:34
MonoJ0kerit asks for ip/host09:34
MonoJ0keri enter it and it does nothing09:34
khaledtjb13, ah09:34
EpPI have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?09:35
MonoJ0kerif i putin the linux machine hostname it says:  vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused09:35
khaledEpP, tried Pilot ?09:35
GnarlyBobthen it's not listening on the port that the client is trying to connect to09:35
MonoJ0keri don't understand why all the conf file lines are prefixed with #09:35
MonoJ0kerisn't that the ignore command?09:35
GnarlyBobthose are comments09:35
GnarlyBobyes09:35
Mabus06how can I get my c++ compiler working? I get 'c++: -E or -x required when input is from standard input09:36
Mabus06'09:36
MonoJ0kerand every line in the vnc.conf file is #ed09:36
GnarlyBobusually, whatever the setting is that's there as a comment is sort of indicative of the defaults with no specific settings09:36
EpPkhaled, is that for ppc or palm?09:36
tjb13anyone have any idea of how to get sleep to work on a thinkpad09:36
MonoJ0kerbut every line?  seems weird09:36
GnarlyBobMabus06: you need source code to compile09:36
khaledEpP, i do not have a pocket pc but you can give gnome-pilot a try09:36
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: yeah, it's just a way of documenting the default settings09:36
MonoJ0kerok09:36
Mabus06GnarlyBob, I'm trying to compile a .cpp file09:36
MonoJ0kerbut it means my conf file has no relevant settings09:36
GnarlyBobMabus06: so you're doing something like: g++ myfile.cpp ?09:37
Mabus06and then -o myfile.out09:37
Mabus06err, c++ command actually09:37
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intelikeyMonoJ0ker  grep -ve'#' <config_file>09:37
GnarlyBobMabus06: it's telling you that for whatever reason, it's trying to read source from standard input (console input) instead of from your source file09:38
Mabus06Err, nevermind, GnarlyBob. Got it to work.09:38
Mabus06Thanks09:38
intelikeyonly see the lines not commented out09:38
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: what are you looking at that's telling you there is a vnc server running?09:38
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MonoJ0kerksysguard09:38
Mabus06What should the permissions on the /home/,dmrc file be?09:39
GnarlyBobdo you have a command prompt open?09:39
MonoJ0kergrep shows me the font lines i added to fix the "font path not found" error09:39
nikoshey everybody09:39
MonoJ0keryep09:39
spanglesontoastdoes anyone know much about radeon graphics cards and if the 3d accel is supported out of the box with ubuntu?09:39
GnarlyBobps axuww | grep -i vnc | grep -v grep09:39
GnarlyBobdoes that give you any output?09:39
MonoJ0keryeah09:39
nikosIn ubuntu breezy badger how can we write the euro symbol?09:40
MonoJ0kerbit long to paste09:40
Mabus06spanglesontoast, have you got the two desktops thing to work with your Radeon? Mine is a X700 Pro.09:40
spanglesontoastno it's an old one09:40
spanglesontoast920009:40
GnarlyBobok, what's the name of the vnc process that's running?09:40
intelikeyanyone got a grub menu.lst or lilo.conf that boots a cdrom drive ?09:40
MonoJ0kerin the sysguard?09:40
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: either that or from the shell output, should be the same09:40
spanglesontoastI'm just wondering if I need to install fglrx or something09:41
intelikeyi've been aimed to set that up but i'm too lazy09:41
MonoJ0kerxtightvnc09:41
Mabus06spanglesontoast, you should have fglrx to use ati cards09:41
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spanglesontoastso am I right in saying I don't actually have any 3d accell at the moment?09:41
spanglesontoastif I had a fresh install?09:41
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: that sounds like the name of the vnc client, not the server09:41
nikosI got a 9600 and works very nice. 3d acceleration, video overlay and multi desktop (although I don't use it that much). I don't know how nvidia's cards work but my radeon 9600 works like a charm09:42
MonoJ0kerreally?09:42
GnarlyBobI'll never give ATI any of my money ever again09:42
MonoJ0kerbummer09:42
khaledspanglesontoast, try running "glxgears"  .. you should get over 50009:42
GnarlyBobpersonal boycott09:42
MonoJ0keri did install tightvncserver from the repos09:42
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MonoJ0kerany idea how to get it running?09:42
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: I could be wrong, checking now09:42
spanglesontoastit didn't spit any output out??09:43
spanglesontoastodd09:43
nikosso does anyone know how to type the euro symbol in breezy09:43
nikos?09:43
khaledspanglesontoast, how fast were the wheels moving ?09:43
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MonoJ0kerif i type tightvncserver at the prompt i get:09:43
MonoJ0kerNew 'X' desktop is ross:209:43
spanglesontoasterm slow09:43
MonoJ0kerand now the process table shows 2 instances of tightvnc09:44
GnarlyBobok09:44
khaledspanglesontoast, then no hardware accel09:44
spanglesontoast:(09:44
GnarlyBobI know the problem09:44
weekanghi, i'm using xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu 5.10 but the lock screen button doesn't work..09:44
MonoJ0keri have killed one09:44
spanglesontoastshall I install fglrx etc09:44
GnarlyBobput a :1 at the end of the hostname in your vnc client connection box09:44
MonoJ0kerreally?09:44
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MonoJ0kerso it wants to use port 109:44
GnarlyBober, or maybe :2, depending on which server you get09:44
GnarlyBobyes09:44
GnarlyBobno, that's not a port number09:44
MonoJ0kerok09:44
MonoJ0kerbut isn't the syntax for specifying a server in a vnc client [host/ip] :port09:45
MonoJ0ker?09:45
khaledspanglesontoast, i got a friend working at ATI .. he is driver developer.. he told me ATI is working on linux drivers.. they might have already released it..09:45
nikosabout ati's cards check this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=fglrx+xvideo09:45
GnarlyBobunix UI stuff runs on the X Window System, which is a network-aware (and clunky and old and broken) windowing system... it runs in listening mode, and can have more than one running at a time, you distinguish between them with the :0.0 :1.0 etc09:45
khaledspanglesontoast, your card is old anyways.. you should be able to find a driver which supports hardware accel09:45
nikosvery usefull instruction there and nice links09:45
spanglesontoastyea I hate buying new cards thou09:45
GnarlyBobno, it's host:X instance number09:45
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nikosradeon 9200 is old? are you serious? besides is there anything running on linux that would puss the card to it's limits? :)09:47
humbraroso, while folks are going through ATI video card hell... does anybody know how to get an old Rage128 card to work (3D) under breezey?09:47
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humbraroworked fine with hoary09:47
spanglesontoastdepends which one heh09:48
spanglesontoastI used have one of those09:48
nikoshumraro: have you editer your xorg.cong file?09:48
nikosxorg.conf09:48
MonoJ0kerok so it connects09:48
MonoJ0kerand the screen is blank09:48
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MonoJ0keri only have one session running09:49
GnarlyBobyeah, but you probably have X running also09:49
humbraronikos: yup - loads drm, dri, got the dri chmod 0666 thing in there - i've been through several distros with this card and all of them worked, until i upgraded to breezy09:49
GnarlyBobwhich takes hostname:009:49
GnarlyBobthen your vnc server (first one) was on hostname:109:49
khalednikos, i have not used any graphics intensive app...  i have a sis card.. ofcourse no 3d support09:49
MonoJ0keri'm connecting into :109:49
GnarlyBobthen you started it again, it got hostname:2, and you killed one, unknown which09:49
MonoJ0kershould i just try 0,1,etc09:49
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GnarlyBobwell, if X is running (gnome, kde, whatever) it'll be on :009:50
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MonoJ0kerand that's my current session?09:50
GnarlyBobso vnc will be available on :1 for the first connection, :2 for the second, etc09:50
MonoJ0kerhang on brb09:50
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nikoshumbraro: does the xserver start09:50
nikos?09:50
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spanglesontoastanyways I gotta restart09:51
spanglesontoastmight hop back in cheers for helping me use my brains....09:51
GnarlyBobthat's such a windows concept :p09:51
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FlannelKingAnyone know why (with apache2) a <location> (that activates web_dav) would overrule a mod_rewrite of that directory?09:51
humbrarohttp://pastebin.com/48388209:51
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humbraronikos: yup, just no 3d accel09:52
MonoJ0keri can't connect to :0,:2 or :309:52
MonoJ0keronly :109:52
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MonoJ0kerand the screen is blank - like the one that loads before the background does09:52
humbraronikos: and i just noticed that i'm set up for 24 bit color - ima change that to 16 where it should be and be right back09:52
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MonoJ0keri'll just restart and try again09:53
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: :1 is the only one that is listening09:53
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humbraronope, 16 bit color and still 130 fps on glxgears09:56
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intelikeyrm /bin/sh09:59
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lexhiderI've installed lm-sensors to see if my power supply is the reason my system is crashing, what log files should I look at post crash to see if it is the culprit???10:00
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MonoJ0kerok so from the top10:00
MonoJ0kerfresh reboot10:00
MonoJ0kerlogon as me10:00
MonoJ0kerkommand - tightvncserver10:00
eppI am running a 800mhz celeron, what can i do to speed up linux?10:00
MonoJ0kerNew 'X' desktop is ross:110:01
GnarlyBobvnc client would point to ross:1 then10:01
GnarlyBobor <ip-address>:110:01
khaledepp, user reiserfs as file system.. or may be even xfs10:01
khaleds/user/use10:01
eppkhaled, how would i do that?10:01
MonoJ0keryeah and i get a blank screen with a konsole showing10:02
GnarlyBobext3 is faster than either of those in my experience, and in any case, that would not give any noticeable performance increase10:02
khaledepp, cause those are faster than ext310:02
MonoJ0kerand it's not hte console i just typed into10:02
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: it shouldn't be10:02
MonoJ0kerwtf is going on?10:02
intelikeyepp kill everything but console  sure speeds up a pinguin10:02
GnarlyBobyou've got a VNC session open10:02
MonoJ0keryeah only problem is it's not into this session10:02
khaledGnarlyBob, xfs does a lot of caching and i do find a difference10:02
eppHow would i do all of these things?10:02
Madpilotlexhider: I'm don't know if lm-sensors logs everything by default, but it will show voltages if your mobo sensors support that10:02
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: right, that's standard10:03
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MonoJ0kerit is?10:03
GnarlyBobfor a unix-based server, yes10:03
khaledepp, how much ram do you have installed?10:03
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MonoJ0kerso... i can't use it to control THIS session then10:03
MonoJ0keror get access to the applications or anything10:03
MonoJ0kerjust a konsole10:03
GnarlyBobmultiple people connecting to one unix machine from several clients (xterminals) is old-school, they decided to keep with the tradition when they did vnc10:03
epp512... but i have 256k more i can put in... but its not same brand.10:03
GnarlyBobI think if you mouse around, you should have access to your menus and such10:04
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johnwreplaced vid card and monitor.  X11 doesn't work now.  Have driver for new card on floppy.  Can't access floppy from command-line cuz I'm stupid.  Help!!!10:04
johnwhow do I uninstall drivers as well?10:04
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lexhiderMadpilot, thanks, which log files should I look for, and what kind of info?10:05
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GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: I believe there are vnc server alternatives that will let you vnc into an already-running X session10:05
GnarlyBobnot sure though10:05
khaledepp, you could get a lighter window manager.. like xfce410:05
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eppyeah... but i dont like the interface...10:05
MonoJ0kerno access to anything but a blank screen10:05
MonoJ0kerthat's next to useless10:05
maskdim so happy with ubuntu, theres finally a dark theme that i can use10:06
eppim installing kubuntu right now10:06
MonoJ0kerwindows it is for me10:06
GnarlyBobMonoJ0ker: that's something that can be fixed10:06
humbraromaskd: what theme is that?10:06
MonoJ0kerthanks for the help all but it's just a pita10:06
GnarlyBobtry mousing around off the edge10:06
MonoJ0kerspecial thanks to GnarlyBob for his patience andhelp10:06
MonoJ0kerbut obviously linux ain't for me10:06
khaledepp, oh.. if you are installing it now, then choose reiserfs as the file system..10:06
MonoJ0kercheers guys10:06
GnarlyBobepp: kubuntu will be slower than regular ubuntu10:06
dabaRMonoJ0ker: give yourself time...10:06
johnwack, how do I uninstall drivers?10:06
maskdhumbraro: marble-look with clearbooks window border and human icons10:06
eppno... i am getting it from apt.10:07
MonoJ0kerlol dabaR  it's taken 3 hours just to get a vnc server working and now it is useless10:07
MonoJ0kerunder windows i could have done it in 30 seconds and i know it would have worked10:07
GnarlyBoband there is no reason to install reiser for the regular end-user, and having people start off by choosing anything other than defaults is just asking for trouble, unless there is a good reason10:07
eppbut i dont like gnome interface...10:07
humbraromaskd: did you get it at gnome-look.org?10:07
dabaRMonoJ0ker: no, I mean, like a week, or a year.10:07
maskdhumbraro: http://art.gnome.oprg10:07
maskdhumbraro: http://art.gnome.org10:07
callieok i recently did an update via adept and i remember some kernel header updates being part of it now i cant boot into ubuntu it appears that getty is missing :( any ideas?10:08
MonoJ0kernah all i wanted was to be able to run the linux session in vnc so i could use one monitor10:08
maskdi personally think the ones from there look cleaner10:08
GnarlyBobhttp://www.lynucs.org/ for some nice screenshots and ideas :)10:08
MonoJ0kernow ifind that isn't possible it's back to a single os for me10:08
MonoJ0kerlater all10:08
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Madpilotlexhider: I'm not sure - I run lm-sensors, but I've never loooked into what logs it keeps10:08
dabaRcallie: idea: get the exact error when asking for help10:08
eppso what could i do to speed kubuntu up?10:08
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intelikeyhow do you get rid of these damned icons on the desktop in gnome.10:08
intelikey?10:08
maskdjeez Monoj0ker didnt feel like learning10:08
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maskdintelikey: what icons?10:08
maskdthe mounted drives?10:08
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Madpilotintelikey: there's an option somewhere in gconf10:09
dabaRmaskd: and like, he wants everything in one evening...10:09
intelikeyall of them10:09
dabaRintelikey: you can even turn off the desktop, to not show anything on it.10:09
Madpilotintelikey: Applications menu - System Tools - Configuration10:09
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eppoh and my video card sucks so bad it doesnt do 3-d. what can i do to make it do 3d stuff?10:09
humbraromaskd: nice :)10:09
GnarlyBobintellikey: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor10:09
dabaRintelikey: ya, and then apps>nautilus>desktop>use desktop10:09
maskdthanks humbraro, it's taken me aaages to find a nice dark theme10:10
GnarlyBober Configuration Editor10:10
maskdsoo much easier on the eyes10:10
Madpilotepp: buy a new one? :P10:10
humbraroyup10:10
maskdepp: you can't make a non 3d card do 3d things10:10
GnarlyBobapps -> nautilus -> desktop10:10
intelikeyk10:10
calliedabaR: i dont have the exact error because the system wont boot, if that makes sense10:10
GnarlyBobdeselect the checkboxes on the right side.10:10
intelikeylooking10:10
khaledepp, /j #kahakai10:10
eppi could with software emulation in windows.10:10
dabaRcallie: kinda, but you have a pen...10:10
khaledepp, sorry10:11
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eppkhaled, hu?10:11
humbraromaskd: funny, ubuntu has made me lazy cause its so polished - i don't tinker around with things as much anymore10:11
calliedabaR: pen? whats that? lol10:11
Madpilotlexhider: if you search Synaptic for sensors, there's a package called "sensord" which is a logging daemon - you might want to look at that10:11
GnarlyBobI switched to ubuntu with the hope of not tinkering around any more, but it's not worked out that way *at all*10:11
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Cybercoolhello10:12
dabaRGnarlyBob: switched from what?10:12
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maskdhumbraro: yeah i know, i havent tinkered with the layout of anything, just the colours, i hated that brown =/10:12
GnarlyBobdabaR: many many different distributions10:12
GnarlyBobmost recently, gentoo10:12
calliedabaR: its something like this "could not execute 'getty'" with "ID x: spawning too fast" messages10:12
lexhiderMadpilot, thanks, will give it a try10:12
humbraroafter 'drake, then slack, then gentoo, then this, its much easier to get along10:13
GnarlyBobmy first distribution was SLS10:13
GnarlyBobin 1993.10:13
dabaRcallie: probably will not be able to find a fix very quick. how much ram does the computer have?10:13
Cybercooli have a problem on my  other computer, i can't login on my  ubuntu. GDM can't write auhorization file. So i wanted to login on a terminal so i can remove some files, but it doesn't prompt anything. Can anybody help?10:13
calliedabaR: 512mb10:13
epphumbraro, i heard gentoo is way nice.10:13
GnarlyBobthen slackware for several years, then debian, red hat, suse, gentoo10:13
GnarlyBobgentoo is for tinkerers10:13
dabaRcallie: use the live CD til you find an answer, and google with the exact error.10:13
humbraroepp: gentoo has its place in the world, its for control freaks and masochists10:14
GnarlyBobmy server is still running gentoo10:14
dabaRCybercool: anything saying XAuthority?10:14
calliedabaR: looks like thats the only solution for now10:14
GnarlyBoband based upon the MAJOR trouble I had getting ubuntu up and running, it might stay that way10:14
eppbut i heard its the fastest for slow comps.10:14
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CybercooldabaR, no10:14
GnarlyBobepp: that could very well be true10:14
GnarlyBobif any is faster for that, it would certainly be gentoo10:14
GnarlyBobsince it does permit you to optimize things in a very fine-grained way10:15
eppGnarlyBob, but then again, i dont even know enough to ever get it installed.10:15
humbraroepp: this ubuntu install is on a PIII733/256, and runs fine10:15
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CybercooldabaR: it starts, go's to the login screen, and then i get the message. And pressing ok goes back to the login screen10:15
GnarlyBobepp: gentoo's documentation is the best there is, hands-down10:15
GnarlyBobbeats ubuntu's by a country mile, even.10:15
dabaRCybercool: but then when you enter user name and password it gives you that error?10:15
humbraroGnarlyBob: amen to gentoo's docs10:15
Cybercooldabar: And when i press ctrl alt F1, i only see a flashing stripe10:15
khaledepp, by the time you compile all the packages to optimize them, you will be tried of gentoo10:16
dabaRCybercool: same for f2, f3, and so on?10:16
CybercooldabaR: yes could not write authorization file, harddisk could be full!10:16
maskddoes anybody else use 1 program open per workspace? just fullscreened10:16
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GnarlyBobgentoo seems like it was founded with the intent of getting complete utter computer newbies to be hardcore linux freaks10:16
dabaRCybercool: no other consoles can be logged into? do you have a live CD?10:16
CybercooldabaR: de last time i checked every F key, i'll try again for every F key, and maybe i see an error10:17
dabaRCybercool: are you sure the disk is not full?10:17
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humbraroGnarlyBob: no kidding, but i never had any trouble with it - the install instructions could have been a script and everything would have went perfectly10:17
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mwright1nighthello10:17
mwright1nightcan someone help me wth a problem10:18
GnarlyBobhumbraro: I never had any trouble with it either, I just got pretty tired of having my machine become lagged for X minutes/hours every day with compiling updates10:18
maskdmwright1night: whats the problem?10:18
thoegerHi there - GDesklets kills my X.org. Not any specific desklet - the app itself. It worked fine for a couple of days on my newly installed breezy ppc. Any idea why?10:18
tjb13anyone in here know how to get sleep working on a thinkpad10:18
intelikeyhumbraro when i find one like that, i make a script out of it, and save for later.10:19
GnarlyBobthoeger: any errors in .xsession-errors in your home directory?10:19
thoegermwright1night, bring it on!10:19
humbraroGnarlyBob: yup, i did a stage-1 install on a 233mhz machine and it took over a week before i saw xfce10:19
thoegerGnarlyBob: I'll check...10:19
GnarlyBobheh, I always did stage 1 too10:19
mwright1nightjust got 344 packages not upgraded on Mepis10:19
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mwright1nightI am remoted into my friends box -- I run Redhat and ubuntu myself  only have 1 pure debian box10:20
GnarlyBobbut I was building my linux boxen from scratch 10+ years ago too, so this stuff is all fluff, in a way10:20
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mwright1nightbut as mepis has stuff all user base thats why I was asking here10:20
GnarlyBobI *hate* debian10:20
spanglesontoastok back got problems with the fglrx driver10:20
CybercooldabaR: are you still there?10:20
GnarlyBobwith the passion of the burning sun10:20
dabaRdf10:20
GnarlyBobbut I really wanted to give ubuntu a fair shake10:20
spanglesontoasthow can I check if it's actually running?10:20
CybercooldabaR: the system when off, no battery!10:20
GnarlyBobspanglesontoast: lsmod10:20
mwright1night0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 344 not upgraded.10:20
maskdGnarlyBob: whats wrong with debian? i found the .deb packaging system great10:20
mwright1nightwhen doing an apt-get upgrade10:20
intelikeyGnarlyBob but it is deb....10:20
maskdit's what turned me to ubuntu10:20
tjb13maskd dpkg is horrendus10:21
GnarlyBobmaskd: the politics, first and foremost - and apt is horrendous10:21
mwright1nightthis is on my friends mepis 3.3 box 2.6.10 kernel  (unstable)10:21
dabaRCybercool: find out whether the disk is really full.10:21
GnarlyBobapt/dpkg whatever10:21
GnarlyBobit's nasty10:21
CybercooldabaR: how?10:21
spanglesontoastty10:21
GnarlyBobI think everyone should use portage :D10:21
mwright1nightI want to bring him up to mepis 3.4 in a week then migrate him to the April release of kubuntu10:21
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tjb13gentoo owns10:21
tjb13and i just started using ubuntu10:21
spanglesontoastyea it says it's running10:21
mwright1nighthe is 65 and rather hopeless with computers10:21
spanglesontoastodd10:21
thoegermwright1night: can't see right away what should be wrong...10:21
mwright1nightso didn't want to change hinm in a hurry10:21
khaledspanglesontoast, lsmod ? is it a module ?10:21
tjb13its great, don't have to wait for shit to xcompile10:21
tjb13pr0n even downloads fastar10:21
mwright1nighti just did an apt-get upgrade and all these packages are held back10:21
spanglesontoastI think10:22
dabaRCybercool: use a live cd if you can not boot into it. once inside the live session, mount your hard disk, and check it with "df -h"10:22
GnarlyBobwell yeah, that's about the only reason I am trying ubuntu instead of going gentoo again... I just don't have the time to tweak10:22
maskdGnarlyBob: whats the best packaging system?10:22
CybercooldabaR: i don't have a live cd10:22
GnarlyBobmaskd: portage10:22
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dabaRCybercool: good time to get one.10:22
CybercooldabaR: is there an other way10:22
GnarlyBob(a matter of opinion, of course)10:22
dabaRCybercool: I do not have other ideas.10:22
humbrarobsd ports - hands down10:23
maskdGnarlyBob: that is used in gentoo isnt it?10:23
GnarlyBobmaskd: yes10:23
tjb13maskd yes10:23
GnarlyBobhumbraro: portage is based on ports10:23
humbraroGnarlyBob: yup, i know] 10:23
tjb13anyone know how to get sleep working10:23
GnarlyBobit takes the idea of ports, and builds on it, imho making it much more flexible10:23
CybercooldabaR: i found an old live cd from 4.10 that will work also10:23
CybercooldabaR: i'm going to try now, wish me luck :S10:23
intelikeytjb13 yes   mount /head /pillow ;renice brain10:24
thoegertjb13 yes, go to bed... ;-)10:24
thoegerdamn too slow10:24
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maskdhey whats the cmd to take a screenshot?10:25
intelikeywell i just borked nautilus.10:25
thoegermaskd: what's your desktop env.?10:25
intelikey system / take a screene ?10:25
maskdthoeger: gnome10:26
zakamethe print screen key10:26
maskdoh that works in gnome?10:26
maskdi wonder if alt+print screen works to print only the active window10:26
thoegermaskd: you can configure it in Desktop Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts...10:27
dabaRCybercool: good luckl10:27
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thoegermaskd: But be careful; I accidentally disabled my space key a couple of days ago - annoying!10:27
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maskdthoeger: bugger, it's cool though i dont go near the space key in hotkeys10:28
intelikeyor is it  action > take a screeny10:28
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nxnxmoxhey10:29
nxnxmoxmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:29
thoegermaskd: it was easy to go back and put right, but darn....10:29
nxnxmoxAnyone know hot to fix this?10:29
thoegernxnxmox: You got the right library installed?10:29
dodoriamplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:29
dodoria |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed10:29
dodoriaxD10:29
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nxnxmoxwhat does this mean10:30
nxnxmoxoh wait10:30
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dodoriaxP10:30
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nxnxmoxnevermind -- first time linux user here :p10:30
neo369gibs hir a deutsch sprachige leute ?10:30
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dodoriahelp-me please10:31
dodoria |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed10:31
athlonneo369, versuch man #ubuntu-de10:31
CybercooldabaR: i removed some files, no i'm restarting, hope it works10:31
dodoriamplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:31
dodoriax~10:31
athlonmal*10:31
intelikeyyuch!  the gnome terminal is white.....10:31
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neo369ok i mach mr danke10:31
polpakintelikey: so change it10:31
intelikeyi will10:31
polpakintelikey: =p10:31
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CybercooldabaR: i can login!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH10:32
Cybercoolthanks10:32
polpakdodoria: why not install the lame codec from the ubuntu repos?10:32
Madpilotintelikey: you can change all sorts of display options in gnome terminal...10:34
dodoriapolpak, He no search the packets10:34
polpakMadpilot: he knows.. he's just complaining =p10:34
Madpilotpolpak: ah, OK :P10:34
intelikeyMadpilot yes i see that, almost a configurable as konsole isn't it.10:34
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polpakdodoria: better yet.. just read the restricted formats wiki?10:35
johnwI'm switching to gentoo for AM6410:35
Madpilotintelikey: never used konsole - that's KDE's terminal app?10:35
johnwAMD6410:35
polpakubotu tell dodoria about restricted10:35
johnwthe wave of the future!10:35
intelikeyyes10:35
intelikeyyes and the reason i made the compairison Madpilot, it looks like they both stole the same code on the same day.10:36
Madpilotintelikey: proof that the gnome terminal doesn't have to be white: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/gnome-term.png :)10:37
intelikeyminse not.10:37
Madpilotintelikey: it's not stealing if it's GPL'd, remember :P10:37
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intelikeyoh yeah.....10:37
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maskdintelikey: it's good if their similar, it means less of a learning curve when going between the 210:37
humbraroanybody else have gdesklets eating up all their cpu time?10:38
polpakMadpilot: you can, but only if you claim it's yours and/or close it10:38
thoegerGnarlyBob: About my x.org crashing when I start the gdesklets app....10:38
Belutzhmm, what's the command to see package information from the console?10:38
Madpilotpolpak: yeah, OK, but you know what I mean10:38
polpakMadpilot: yep10:39
sampanbelutz  apt-cache show package.name10:39
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Belutzsampan, thanks10:39
intelikeymaskd to each his own.   i realize there is only so many things you can do with crt  but the more something resembles M$ Windows (R)  the less i like it.10:39
sampannp10:39
thoegerGnarlyBob: ... just read my .xsession-errors but I must confess it makes littles ense to me...10:39
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maskdintelikey: wait wait, aren't we comparing konsole and gnome-terminal10:40
intelikeyyes10:40
maskdMS-DOS prompt isn't anywhere near as customizable...10:40
intelikeyi know  :)10:41
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maskdso where did the windows comment come from? :P10:41
spanglesontoastanyone?10:41
MadpilotI was messing with .bashrc last week - you can do some cool things in terminal/console10:41
intelikeyfrom the learing curve comment.... just expanded it to the ubuntu mintality10:41
Fanskapet4DOS istheshit.net :)10:41
Fanskapetor 4NT for windows.10:42
intelikeyyessir Madpilot10:42
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thoegerspanglesontoast: anyone 4 what?10:42
kimkolahow do i find out which distro i am running ?10:42
intelikeyuname -r10:42
spanglesontoastwell I've got issues with the fglrx10:43
spanglesontoastdriver10:43
cafuegokimkola: cat /etc/motd10:43
intelikeyor uname -a  if you like lots of info10:43
cafuegokimkola: That usually mentions what you're on.10:43
thoegerkimkola + intelikey: That will tell the kernel, not the distro...10:43
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intelikeycafuego on all my boxes that returns nothing10:43
maskdkimkola: you should know what distro you are running, if you installed it..10:44
cafuegointelikey: Then you must have emptoed motd.10:44
kimkolayea it is only giving me info on kernel etc,10:44
tjb13cafuego are you a gentoo convert aswell10:44
cafuegotjb13: No, I am not retarded.10:44
tjb13hhaha10:44
intelikeyonly on the ubuntu install cafuego the rest were empty by default.10:44
thoegerspanglesontoast: Well, throw it into the pool and hope for someone 2 catch it :-)10:44
kimkolaacutally i did not installed it, and i have to figure out apache on it, so was looking for rpm's for it, then i thought i dont know what distro it is :10:45
intelikeyand kernel info is usually enough to tell the distro also10:45
maskdhow to you modify the motd?10:45
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maskdsudo gedit /etc/motd?10:45
intelikeyedit /etc/motd10:45
thoegerspanglesontoast: Not sure I can help you though...10:45
munzirhi sirs, how should I proceed to install dapper? may be I can download a nighty dvd but I am afraid it won't install and then I was left clueless10:46
cafuegointelikey: Naughty.10:46
intelikeyunless the packagers put a line in one of the init scripts that rewrites it each boot....10:46
intelikey?10:46
cafuegointelikey: That's not normally the case, it wouldn't get rewritten anyway.10:46
thoegerOkay folks I'll throw it out again: Anyone might have an idea why gdesklets mkes X go bye-bye?10:46
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cafuegointelikey: /etc/issue might contain info as well, though.10:46
thoegerStellarium does the same thing...10:47
spanglesontoastwell at the moment I Have like very high brightness with it set to the fglrx in the xorg10:47
intelikeycafuego ???  "it wouldn't get rewritten anyway."   what you smoking ?10:47
alphabet[afk] hrm10:47
Madpilotmunzir: Dapper is still in heavy development, and will break things - keep running Breezy unless you want to break things...10:47
alphabet[afk] i just did apt-get upgrade10:47
cafuegointelikey: motd doesn't get rewritten on bootup10:47
alphabet[afk] and like 20 apps just got held back10:48
cafuegointelikey: (on normal distros)10:48
pezafor /etc/motd you will need to edit /etc/default/rcS to prevent your changes being overwritten every boot10:48
thoegerspanglesontoast: Have you always had that problem or has it come recently?10:48
_ian_anyone here folding?10:48
intelikeyon breezy it doesn't  on one system i have here it does and so does issue and issue.net10:48
spanglesontoastsince I changed to the fglrx driver10:49
alphabet[afk] The following packages have been kept back:10:49
munzirMadpilot: yes I want to take it as a new experience. I already have Breezy installed and I loved it very much10:49
alphabet[afk] libapache-mod-php4 libapache2-mod-php4 linux-image-38610:49
intelikeybut i fix that cause i don't like any crap on my login screen/s10:49
alphabet[afk] linux-restricted-modules-386 php4 php4-cgi php4-cli php4-common php4-curl10:49
alphabet[afk] php4-dev php4-domxml php4-gd php4-ldap php4-mcal php4-mhash php4-mysql10:49
alphabet[afk] php4-odbc php4-pgsql php4-recode php4-snmp php4-sybase php4-xslt10:49
alphabet[afk] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded.10:49
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cafuegoTssk. naughty Ubuntu.10:49
GTroyI hate to ask, but I lose wifi after a few hours online, never happened before....10:49
_ian_spanglesontoast what ati card you have?10:50
alphabet`any dea why that happens?10:50
spanglesontoastati radeon 920010:50
alphabet`(the apt-get update error)10:50
_ian_i see...10:50
cafuegoalphabet`: Feel free to not spam.10:50
alphabet`sorry10:50
alphabet`i tried to paste it one line10:50
cafuegoalphabet`: Don't paste AT ALL here.10:50
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alphabet`got it.10:50
e-fonzany one got experience with rar?10:51
cafuegoalphabet`: Anyway, package can be held back if another package they depend on isn't yet available in the correct version.10:51
GTroye-fonz yeah10:51
thoegere-fonz... a bit10:51
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alphabet`okay, so why would php4 be held back then?10:51
alphabet`all of those depend on php410:51
cafuegoalphabet`: ... installing the new version would cause an unsatisfied depend.10:52
spanglesontoasthmm does the fglrx driver already compiled cos I know theres a driver you can compile from source...?10:52
e-fonzTrying to unpack rar files.....but they are named with () i replaced the () with %28 and %29, but rar cannot find the files10:52
cafuegoalphabet`: Try forcefully installing it, see what breaks: that's what's causing it ;-)10:52
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alphabet`haha, i'll just wait then.10:52
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alphabet`i'm not spending another 4 hours formatting10:52
cafuegoe-fonz: replace ( with \( or just put the whole filename in quotes.10:52
cafuegoalphabet`: Prolly be sorted in a few hours.10:52
alphabet`cafuego: actually its been like that for the past two weeks10:53
e-fonz"FooFighters(6Albums).part01.rar" like this?10:53
intelikeyand gnome terminal doesn't read in the bashrc and profile   arrrrr10:53
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cafuegoalphabet`: Hmm. Running a 'dist-upgrade; or just an 'upgrade' ?10:53
mwright1nightanyone know where I can get Freenx debs from?10:53
alphabet`i first did10:53
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alphabet`apt-get update, then i did apt-get upgrade10:53
cafuegoalphabet`: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'10:53
alphabet`dist upgrade?10:53
jlundHas anyone had any luck getting suspend/hibernate to work on an Asus a8n-e motherboard? If I do the logout hibernate option the system goes partially down and my screen doesn't display anything but everything is still on (fans etc.) and it won't wake back up.10:54
alphabet`i'm already on breezy10:54
cafuegoalphabet`: They're held back because a NEW package is needed. 'upgrade' cannot puill that in. 'dist-upgrade' can (and will).10:54
alphabet`ah, i'll try10:54
morphixhmm.. i changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?10:54
Madpilotjlund: is that a laptop mobo or desktop?10:54
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jlundDesktop10:54
e-fonz Thanks guys after, 1 hr. of goofing swearing as a noob it finally works!10:55
alphabet`its gonan install a new linux image, and then upgrade those10:55
cafuegoe-fonz: For future reference:10:55
cafuegoe-fonz: unrar e Foo<tab>10:55
thoegerspanglesontoast - dunno what causes your problem, sorry...10:55
GTroyhmmm having a netgear usb drop connection after a while....any help?10:55
spanglesontoastok10:55
_ian_where can i get new themes for ubuntu?10:55
BjornWhi, can somebody tell me how to add icons to any application launcher. Somehow I cannot select any icons except for the default ones10:55
cafuegoe-fonz: The tab key will autocomplete the filename and escape any special characters10:55
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cafuego_ian_: art.ubuntu.com10:56
intelikeyhmmm it really did break nautilus when i did a 'rm -rf ~/Desktop ;ln -s /dev/null ~/Desktop '    i wonder why ???10:56
e-fonzcafuego: Wow thanks, just installed ubuntu one week ago, and learned a lot!10:56
cafuegointelikey: user error.10:56
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cafuegoe-fonz: tab completion is your friend. Works on all files (and commands)10:56
thoegerspanglesontoast - but synaptics tells me that fglrx is binary-only, so I don't think not having compiled causes your problem :-)10:57
jlundIs it even possible to get hibernate to work on a desktop machine? I haven't seen my in the forums about it.10:57
intelikeyprogrammer error.  they've fot Desktop hard-coded into naut10:57
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_ian_thnx10:57
intelikey:)10:57
spanglesontoastah so it is actually a proper kernel module thingy10:57
Hoxzer_jlund: would you cry for hapiness if I'd fuck you decently?10:57
mwright1nightdoes anyone here use FreeNX?10:57
cafuegoe-fonz: You can enable even more completion by enabling the bottom few files in /etc/bash.bashrc10:57
encompassI have just installed a camera, it looks like it detect it properly but what is the best way to test this device?10:57
BjornWanyone got some experiences with adding icons to an application launcher?10:58
thoegerOkay, my problem with x dieing is still valid...10:58
e-fonzcafuego: not too much at once ;)10:58
MrSkalmanBjornW, prova Gnomemeeting10:58
jlundHoxzer_: WTF10:58
cafuegoe-fonz: Doing that can autocomplete command loine params to the package tools. very useful :-)10:58
BjornWMrSkalman: I don't understand..10:58
encompassI tried using the multimedia systems selector and my computer locked... any ideas?10:59
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MrSkalmanuse Gnomemeeting to test cam10:59
encompassit was when I tried to test the camera10:59
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encompassok sure10:59
kalifanybody with knowledge on softwareraid?10:59
cafuegoHoxzer_: Can you go to the web and read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?10:59
intelikeycafuego with bash-completion on or even off ?10:59
thoeger...but got another one: At gnome login I get a warning that My .dmrc has got the wrong ownership and permissions.... But when I do a ls-l they seem perfectly right... ???10:59
cafuegojlund: If the hardware isn't broken, it should hibernate just fine.10:59
e-fonzcafuego: thanks wrote it all down! gonna goof around with it!10:59
Hoxzer_cafuego: I might but I might not10:59
cafuegointelikey: on10:59
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_ian_cafyuego which of the themes do i need ? is it window border?11:00
cafuego_ian_: Why not try all? :-)11:00
thoegerMrSkalman: Inte alla hr frstr deg... ;)11:00
intelikeyyeah i like bash-completion, but i didn't think that would work unless you turn it on.11:00
_ian_hehe11:00
Toma-anyone know how to apply a diff patch file?11:00
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jlundcafuego: Do any logs get written anywhere upon suspend? It would be helpful to see what is going wrong.11:00
MrSkalmanthoeger, Mrkte det :)11:00
Toma-i always thought -p1 worked from the directory above it?11:00
weekanghi, i'm having trouble getting skype to work on breezy11:00
cafuegointelikey: You can enable it in /etc/bash.bashrc (that includes /etc/bash_completion)11:01
kalifI need som device explanation from /proc/mdstat. what is device dm-11 and dm-1211:01
Bjoern-ErikCan anyone tell me how to disable automount of CD-ROMs in KDE?11:01
cafuegoToma-: if the patch isn't broken...11:01
gerald-voltis firefox 1.5 on the repositories?11:01
cafuego!firefox1.511:01
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:01
intelikeyyeah or source it from ./.bashrc  :)11:01
GTroyanyone know what to do when your wifi drops, and activating it again doesn't work?11:01
thoegergerald-volt: No...11:01
munzirSirs, where can I find the plugin that let gaim speak paltalk and google talk11:01
thoegerdarn, too slow again11:01
carelezz!firefox1.511:01
cafuegojlund: Probably /va/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log11:01
carelezz!touch11:02
ubotucarelezz: Are you smoking crack?11:02
cafuegojlund: Is your swap partition larger then your ram size?11:02
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weekangcan someone help me with skype?  "skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:11:02
weekang  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.11:02
weekang"11:02
gerald-volthow do icheck my kernel version11:02
cafuegogerald-volt: 'uname -r'11:02
cafuegoweekang: 'sudo apt-get -f install'11:03
jlundcafuego: Yes11:03
weekangok i'll try11:03
weekangthx11:03
thoegerAny PPC Users in here?11:03
cafuegothoeger: yes11:03
e-fonzcafuego: Thanks again, i'll be back!11:03
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thoegercafuego: It should be possible to enable SideTrack-style trackpad scrolling on an iBook - got any experiance with that?11:04
alphabet`cafuego: thanks it all worked perfectly.11:04
cafuegothoeger: No... not running Linux on the iBook until I can get airport extreme to work.11:05
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weekangcafuego: u mean i should 'sudo apt-get -f install libqt3c102-mt' ?11:05
_ian_bye11:05
thoegercafuego: I see - it was worth a shot though...11:05
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cafuegoweekang: No, juist 'sudo apt-get -f install' should pull it in.11:05
thoegeranyone to hwom an .xsession-errors file isn't gibberish?11:07
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weekangcafuego: no it didn't11:07
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cafuegothoeger: put it on the pastebin11:07
weekangcafuego: it removed skype11:07
morphixi changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?11:07
cafuegoweekang: Ok, just 'sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt' then.11:07
thoegercafuego - pastebin?11:07
cafuegoweekang: D'oh :-)11:07
cafuego!paste11:07
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:07
thoeger(new to IRC )11:07
intelikeypour water on it cafuego quickly  8-{11:07
spanglesontoasthow would I resize my ubuntu partition11:07
vbhanuwhen i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed11:08
spanglesontoastif my whole distro is just on one partition like /11:08
morphixqtparted11:08
vbhanuhow can i solve this11:08
weekangcafuego: that didn't work either11:08
cafuegoweekang: What error?11:08
morphixspanglesontoast qtparted11:08
intelikeyspanglesontoast don't,  just add another partition to it.11:08
weekangPackage libqt3c102-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:08
weekangThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:08
weekangis only available from another source11:08
weekangHowever the following packages replace it:11:08
weekang  libqt3-mt11:08
spanglesontoastso you can't in other words11:08
weekangand sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt tells me that it is already installed11:09
cafuegoTypical.11:09
cafuegoweekang: You might be in for a treat with the 'equivs' package then.11:09
weekangok cool11:09
weekanginstall?11:09
cafuego!info libqt3c102-mt11:09
jlundcafuego: Why did you ask if my swap size was bigger than my RAM in regards to my suspend issue?11:09
cafuegojlund: suspend would fail if it couldn't store the ram contents on disk (it dumps onto swap)11:10
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intelikeyjlund you can not dump ram to disk if the swap partition is smaller than the ram11:10
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cafuegoweekang: Yep. Install & read docs. You'll need to make a fake 'libqt3c102-mt' package using equivs.11:10
jlundcafuego: Ah, I see. I'm trying to suspend to ram though11:10
cafuegojlund: aaaahhhh...11:10
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maskdomg im only using 1/5th of my total ram capacity11:11
weekangcafuego: ok cool thanks11:11
zelevwHi guys...my OS is not working (ubuntu 5.10)..it complains: Read-only file system...nothing runs11:11
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zelevwany help is greatly appreciated11:11
ProN00bi need a dos rescue cd for flashing my bios, can anyone point me to some resources ?11:11
maskdzelevw: is that on boot?11:11
cafuegoProN00b: floppy ok?11:11
zelevwmaskd: im in x now11:12
vbhanuwhen i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?11:12
intelikeymaskd hmmm i'm using a bit more that that percent wise but i only have 64m11:12
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maskdintelikey: hehe i have 1gb11:12
ProN00bnope, cafuego laptot got no floppy drive11:12
zelevwbut if i tail -f /var/log/messages i can see the problem over and over11:12
intelikey Mem usage: 14.9/61.1 MB (24%)11:12
maskdwith windows i would be using damn near 800-1000mb of it11:12
thoegercafuego: My xsession-errors is on wwww.fys.ku.dk/~thoeger/xsession-errors now...11:12
cafuegoProN00b: floppy image ok, that you can write to cd as boot sector?11:12
zelevwmaskd: and when i reboot the shutdown of everything fails because of the read only file system11:12
maskdzelevw: what type of partition is it?11:13
intelikeyi really like this distro....11:13
zelevwext311:13
maskdintelikey: which one?11:13
cafuegothoeger: just a moment...11:13
intelikeynever you mind which.11:13
maskdintelikey: aww cmon tell me11:13
maskdzelevw: mmm11:13
ProN00byou mean i can burn a floppy immage to cd, cafuego, how ?11:13
intelikeyno ......11:13
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cafuegoProN00b: A bootable DOS cd uses a dos floppy image as boot sector on the cd. 'cdrecord' allows you to create them.11:14
marccdis it posible for my MTA (postfix) to require AUTH only on external users (meaning not in my local network?)11:14
cafuegoProN00b: I have a bootable floppy image, all you'd need to do is add the bios flasher to it, then burn as disc.11:14
cafuegomarccd: yes.11:14
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sarahhallo11:15
thoegersarah: Hello11:15
marccdcafuego: where should I look for info?11:15
cafuegomarccd: add the local network to mynetworks11:15
cafuegomarccd: ... that should be all there is to it.11:15
marccdcafuego: oh, so its automatic?, cool11:15
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marccdcafuego: thanks :D11:15
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maskdzelevw: what does your fstab look like, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:16
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morphix:/11:16
cafuegothoeger: looks like gbubiff isn't starting properly11:16
Seveas!poke11:17
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Seveasmornin' all11:17
GTroyhello good sir11:17
GnarlyBob!peek11:17
ubotuGnarlyBob: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:17
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intelikeyyo11:17
cafuegoSeveas: hey, do you need a mirror for your .deb repository?11:17
maskdgood evening Seveas11:17
Seveascafuego, mirrors are good :)11:17
thoegercafuego: No, that's been a problem for some time - it shouldn't start at all actually. But thing is, gdesklets is my main suspect... it crashes my x totally11:17
morphixhmm..11:18
cafuegoSeveas: I need to piss off and go drink now, but shall ask again in the new year. I have a Linode being mainly idle :-)11:18
Seveascafuego, cheers, have fun with the booze :)11:18
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Seveasrofl11:18
ajmitchcafuego: enjoy :)11:18
cafuegothoeger: I have to go.... but then, I don't know much about gdesklets. (Mine crasha ll the time, so i stopped using them)11:19
Seveasmany desklets are utterly broken11:19
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SeveasI downloaded a calculator desklet once11:19
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gerald-voltif i'musing an athlonxp, should I use the linux k7 kernel?11:19
Seveascouldn't even calculate 1+1+111:19
thoegercafuego: thanx anyway -11:19
maskdis a desklet an equivalent to apple's widgets?11:19
morphixhmm11:19
Seveasgerald-volt, it would work11:19
gerald-voltwould it be recommended11:20
thoegerSeveas: its not any specific desklet, it's the app itself11:20
gerald-voltcuz right now, I11:20
gerald-voltI am using 38611:20
gerald-voltkernel11:20
Seveasit might be a bit faster although I doubt it'll be noticable11:20
gerald-voltic11:20
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ProN00bcafuego, can you give me the commands you use ?11:21
maskdi thought you meant you're using a 38611:21
gerald-volti don't know11:21
maskdit's only 9:30 and im already this tired..11:21
gerald-voltI'm using kernel for 38611:21
gerald-voltbut my cpu is athlonxp11:21
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maskdgerald-volt: how well does your system run now? do you see any need to change it?11:22
thoegerbye folks...11:22
morphixcan somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC11:23
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vbhanuwhen i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?11:24
gerald-voltwell that's the thing11:24
gerald-volti dont know11:24
gerald-volteverything runs smooth11:24
omenhello11:24
gerald-voltand fairly fast11:24
maskdgerald-volt: then dont worry about it!11:24
Seveasvbhanu, apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"11:25
gerald-voltbut there just seems to have a slight delay when I click something11:25
maskdif it aint broke, dont fix it11:25
gerald-volti don't knwo11:25
gerald-voltit's hard to explain11:25
Seveasand put the output on the pastebin11:25
gerald-voltcomparing to windows11:25
omendoes ubuntu have a make command?11:25
Seveasgerald-volt, then just try it, you can always go back11:25
Seveas!tell omen about compiling11:25
vbhanuSeveas : do you want  apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true" or  apt-get install kde -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"?11:25
Seveasvbhanu, either11:26
gerald-voltis there a kernel guide for ubuntu11:27
gerald-voltor shoudl I just dig out my gentoo handbook11:27
weekanghey, can someone point me to a man file or something for the equivs package?11:27
Seveas!kernel11:27
Seveasubotu, test11:27
ubotuStop poking me!11:27
weekangi have it installed but can't find any instructions or man pages11:27
Seveasgerald-volt, it's on the wiki11:27
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gerald-voltaight11:28
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Seveasweekang, man equivs-control; man equivs-build11:28
morphixcan somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC11:28
Seveasmorphix, try pci=routeirq as boot parameter11:28
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weekangSeveas: thanks!11:29
morphixSeveas how exactly do i put that in GRUB?11:29
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Seveasmorphix, at the line startin with #KOPT11:29
Seveasand after that run update-grub11:29
morphix..?11:30
morphixcant i just do command and then manually place it here?11:30
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Seveassure, hit [ESC]  during boot11:30
morphixthen C11:30
morphixi think?11:31
Seveashit e to edit, go to the 'kernel ...' line, etc...11:31
morphixhm..11:31
Seveasthe grub boot screen has instructions ;)11:31
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morphixfaint 1's11:31
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mihai_Please help. Why do I get "power calibration failed" in GnomeBaker when I try to write a CD?11:33
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calamarihi11:35
Seveasoi11:35
calamariI think I might be screwed.. but just want to see if there is hope:11:35
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calamariI enlarged my ext2 partition with parted.. rebooted.. everything was fine.. rebooted again an gnome wouldn't start11:36
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calamariran e2fsck and got a TON of errors.. fixed them all11:36
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calamariof course gnome still won't start.. was missing important libs like libX11.. so I installed what it complained about missing11:37
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morphixmihai_ that usually happens when your cdr is buggered and also if your cdrw drive isnt getting sufficient power11:37
morphixtry changing the cdr disc11:37
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calamarinow it simply says that gnome-session cannot open the display11:37
mihai_morphix, I try to burn a cd-rw11:37
AKILLI_KIZ_VARMIselamlar11:37
morphixtry using a different disc.11:37
mihai_morphix, could this be the problem. just erased it11:37
morphixi reckon its more then likely the disc.11:37
morphixpossibly11:37
morphixwhen i use faulty discs i get that error.11:38
SeveasAKILLI_KIZ_VARMI, this is an english channel, please stick to english11:38
AKILLI_KIZ_VARMIno11:38
AKILLI_KIZ_VARMIyes turks0131h11:38
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calamariam I even trying to run gnome correctly?11:39
mihai_morphix, first time I burn a cd by myself11:39
Seveascalamari, that indeed sounds like you're screwed11:39
mihai_morphix, I want it to work11:39
calamariI'm trying "sudo gnome-session", dunno if that's right11:39
Seveascalamari, you could try apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f 1 -d ' '`11:40
calamariis there a way to have apt check my packages for missing files?11:40
Seveascalamari, no, you should simply try startx11:40
Seveasnot sudo gnome-session11:40
mihai_morphix, Performing OPC...11:40
mihai_cdrecord: OPC failed.11:40
mihai_I get this too11:40
calamariseveas.. that will scroll off in a second.. may I leave #ubuntu and you paste that in a private message ?11:41
nekostarnow if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?11:41
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morphixSeveas it didnt fix my prob :(11:42
bob_4_a_dayi have 'nome and kde installed....11:42
Seveasbob_4_a_day, because it's a kde app :)11:43
Seveasmorphix, then I have no more clues11:43
bob_4_a_dayyour point is ?11:43
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Seveasbob_4_a_day, the gnome menus won't show kde apps11:43
marccdhmm where can I find mmencode for Ubuntu?11:43
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marccdahh nevemind, it is named mimencode in here11:43
gerald-volthow do I make all the grey stuff in firefox a lightr grey colour11:43
bob_4_a_daySeveas it does... kmail kppp konquror....11:43
gerald-voltlike the stuf surrounding the buttons11:44
gerald-voltthe color of the tabs11:44
Seveasbob_4_a_day, those are bugs11:44
bob_4_a_daybut no knosole11:44
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Seveasbob_4_a_day, the gnome menus *shouldn't* show kde apps :)11:44
morphixi am sure i just need to install devices thats all11:44
liablewhy? kde shows gnome apps..11:44
morphixi dunno how to tho11:44
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liablebob_4_a_day: look in the debian menu if you have one.11:45
bob_4_a_dayyeah well i guess 'nome is just defacient that way...11:45
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bob_4_a_dayliable all i have is an aplications and an actions menus11:46
thoreauputicSeveas: hmm - not only does the gnome menu show kde apps - it even shows icons here on breezy11:46
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marccdcafuego: still there?11:48
bob_4_a_dayodd the only thing i can't find is konsole11:48
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VitorBeltraoooops11:49
VitorBeltraosorry11:49
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calamarire's11:50
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brrrthello11:51
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brrrti upgraded from warty to breezy, now i have a problem with typing a "@"11:52
morphixis there a way i can 'rescan' for hardware and ubuntu will set the new stuff up?11:52
bob_4_a_dayi fixed it, the terminal launcher on the main panal; i reprogramed it to start konsole in place of 'nome terminal.11:52
brrrtand everytime i logon i gett an error box11:52
YeahnudeWhen i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why?11:52
twilightbrrrt, the error box is about xkb?11:52
brrrtyes!11:53
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twilightbrrrt, search it on bugzilla.ubuntu.co, is a solved bug11:53
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brrrtthx!11:53
maskdYeahnude: you didnt do an 'expert' install did you?11:54
stark-johanThis problem is probably pretty simple or totally impossible to solve. I've logged onto icq via gaim on my fresh installation of ubuntu and I can't send or recieve file transfers. I understand this issue is well known but I read at the gaim FAQ that the file transfers with icq should be working in gaim 1.5.0. Am I doing it the wrong way or is it simply not working yet? I'm dragging and dropping...11:54
xiaogilAt the boot, I have the following error msg : "mounting local filesystem failed". What shall I do ?11:54
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Stew_Lappyanyone running breezy on a dell inspiron got the sd card reader working?11:55
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YeahnudeWhen i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why? ?11:56
calamariwhen I was in synaptic I disabled my ubuntu cdrom repository.. how can I get it back from the command line ?11:56
maskdYeahnude: you didnt do an "expert" installation did you?11:56
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kemikstark-johan:  dont think icq-filetransfers is availble unless you run the gaim beta11:56
Yeahnudemaskd yes i took full11:56
bob_4_a_dayhavent i seen that before.....11:56
maskdYeahnude: so when installing, you put in expert at the boot: prompt?11:57
senectusI have a small .ace file that I can't extract because it's using an unkown compression, can someone help me out here?11:57
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bob_4_a_dayYeahnude needs to add himself to the admin group11:57
Khainehey11:58
stark-johankemik > the 2.0 beta? is that available as a package or will I have to compile it manually?11:58
maskdhi Khaine11:58
kemikstark-johan:  compile afaik11:58
KhaineI just started using ubuntu11:58
KhaineI switched from gentoo11:59
paalok11:59
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KhaineI must say that I am very impressed, with how well it works out of the box11:59
nekostarnow if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?12:00
maskdKhaine: I know, my motherboard with windows needs to get drivers installed for the network to work, and it all works with ubuntu12:00
stark-johankemik > thanks, I'll try that and report back.12:00
morphixhow do i reconfigure a NIC using ifconfig?12:00
Digissenectus, install package "unace"12:00
Stew_LappyI just installed on a laptop and I am very impressed, works better than suse 9 or 10 eer did12:00
Khainesome things are weird but, coming from gentoo, but overall I'm very happy with it12:01
Yeahnudemaskd no but i could chose.. "server" < only little of ubuntu and full someething like that. When i click on "user accounts" (i have swedish ubuntu, im not good on translate) It says Child status 1 .. login as root12:01
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senectusDigis, done that, but it tells me "File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible.12:01
senectus"12:01
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Digissenectus, u tryed "unace e filename.ace"?12:01
maskdYeahnude: Go to terminal, and try the command sudo users-admin12:02
senectusDigis, yes12:02
senectusDigis, and that is exaclty what it tells me12:02
Digisso, u need original winace tools :)12:03
Yeahnudemaskd im new, how i go to terminal? :) i know terminal is the commando prompt12:03
bob_4_a_daymaskd if Yeahnude did and expert install he/she probably set a root password,  use 'su - '   then set it up from the root account.12:03
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senectusDigis, :rollseyes: not much help to me that is. I don't _have_ any windows machines anymore12:03
Digissenectus, U can try compiling http://www.maxeline.com/winace/linunace22.tgz12:03
robbsterlo all. I've just installed breezy on my home pc. had mandrake, but I wanted a change. I just need some pointer on how to get windows up and running again? It's already installed.12:04
maskdbob_4_a_day: yeah i know but he didn't do an expert install12:04
maskdYeahnude: the Terminal is in Applications > Accessories12:04
Whistleri have a tough question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?12:04
bob_4_a_daythen whys the default user not in the admin group  <--- assumes default user account.12:04
Badm4nwhy i cant apt-get install pico12:05
Badm4nwhy i cant apt-get install pico after i apt-get remove nano ... cause i'd like pico more than nano12:05
maskdbob_4_a_day: no idea, but he says he didnt do an expert install12:05
bob_4_a_dayBadm4n isn't pico installed ?12:05
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# pico12:05
Badm4nbash: /usr/bin/pico: No such file or directory12:05
Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she#12:05
bob_4_a_daymaskd server does that too12:05
SeveasBadm4n, because pico is not free software12:05
Badm4nno i think12:05
maskdbob_4_a_day: ah.12:05
Seveasnano is about the same as pico, I didn't find any differences yet12:06
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Whistleri have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?12:06
Badm4nmy keypad doesnt work on it ( nano )12:06
Badm4n:D12:06
Badm4nthat make me dificult when i must put several number12:06
maskdi like gedit ;)12:06
Whistleri like mousepad12:06
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Whistlerits fast and easy to use12:06
Badm4nany idea to make it work ?12:06
Stew_Lappyjoe :)12:07
Yeahnudemaskd i have used that commando, sudo user-admin , it sayd, password and i filled it in.. should it work now?12:07
bob_4_a_dayBadm4n do sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico12:07
Badm4nlolz12:07
maskdYeahnude: did it start up?12:07
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maskdif not12:07
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Badm4nthat will load nano12:07
Badm4n:D12:07
maskdtype "su", then enter the password you made for root12:07
Badm4nmy keypad doesnt work on nano12:07
bob_4_a_daythat's what pico is on ubuntu.  a symlink to nano12:07
weekanghelp12:08
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weekangi'm having trouble using equivs to simulate an uninstallable package12:08
Whistleri have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?12:08
Badm4nomg...12:08
weekangbasically i create a fake package but it is still uninstallable due to conflicts with an already installed package12:09
bob_4_a_day!info picocom12:09
ubotupicocom: (minimal dumb-terminal emulation program), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 112 kB12:09
bob_4_a_dayBadm4n ^12:09
bob_4_a_daytry that then12:09
marccdhow can I see the user:group a process runs on?12:09
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pic12:09
Badm4nln: `/usr/bin/pic': File exists12:09
Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she#12:09
Yeahnudemaskd root@server: /home/admin it says in the terminal12:09
bob_4_a_daypic ????    no no no Badm4n pico12:10
Badm4npico12:10
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico12:10
Badm4nln: `/usr/bin/pico': File exists12:10
Badm4nsee12:10
Badm4n:D12:10
bob_4_a_dayran it twice maybe ?12:11
Badm4ntype it twice ?12:11
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bob_4_a_dayno i was ascing if you already did12:11
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docta_vso is /usr/bin/pico linked to nano?12:11
morphix:@12:11
docta_vmaybe you should check that12:11
Whistlerdoes anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?12:11
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Badm4ndocta_v : correct12:12
Badm4nafter i type apt-get install nano12:12
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Badm4nit create it by it self12:12
calamariSeveas: just fyi: the cut part of what you gave me needed to be cut -f 1   instead of -cut -f 1 -d ' '   .. I guess it is really using a tab and not a space.. at least on mine12:12
ubunt-newwhy when i do sudo apt-get instann nmap it does not install12:12
Whistlerubunt-new try sudo apt-get install nmap12:13
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ubunt-new sudo apt-get install nmap12:13
ubunt-newLser paketlistor... Frdig12:13
ubunt-newBygger beroendetrd... Frdig12:13
ubunt-newE: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmap12:13
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Whistlerit that doesnt work check your /etc/apt/sources.list12:13
ubunt-newi donno12:13
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Adrossis there a screensaver wherein headlines from a specified newsfeed(usually rss) are displayed?12:13
bob_4_a_day!info nmap12:14
ubotunmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB12:14
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Whistlerubunt-new type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:14
Whistlerand enable needen repositories12:14
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Badm4nbob_4_a_day : any other solution ?12:14
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Whistlerdoes anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?12:15
bob_4_a_dayto what problem Badm4n ?12:15
cyphasehow do you make a command output to a file and the screen?12:15
mirakhi12:15
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mirakwhen I open firefox I just have a small window that open with xml code in it12:15
docta_vcyphase: tee12:16
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Drakenanyone know how to bridge two network cards in linux ?12:16
cyphasedocta_v, thanx12:16
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mirakDraken: what do you want to do ?12:16
morphixi think i buggered up my /etc/network/interfaces config12:17
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ubunt-new sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:17
ubunt-newnothing happens12:17
ubunt-newit hangs12:17
morphixcan someone show me what a default 'untouched' config looks like12:17
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thegladiatorhi12:17
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thegladiatori have loaded a hard disk that got damaged few monhts back ...12:18
thegladiatori woul like to check if linux detects it12:18
Drakenmirak12:18
Drakenu know in windows when u bridge connections ?12:18
mirakyes12:18
Badm4nat pico ... i can use my keypad freely to put number like ip or something else12:18
Badm4nat nano : i cant do that12:18
mwethegladiator: dmesg|grep hd12:18
mirakI know I needed it on windows some times, but I never needed that on linux, so I am wondering why one ould need it12:19
docta_vBadm4n: is numlock on?12:19
mirakDr_Acemaster:12:19
Drakenerr well, i got two network cards12:19
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Badm4nyes12:19
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Drakento two diffrent ppl, i want to bridge them, and make it one12:19
thegladiatormwe, it doesnt show the seagate hdd12:19
Badm4nif i turn numlock off it apears like a help menu12:19
mirakDraken: on linux you can act as a gateway12:20
mirakDraken: type route12:20
mwethegladiator: then probably it doesn't see. however try dmesg|less and look for it12:20
Drakenbut im not the gateway12:20
mirakDraken: google and man route12:20
Drakenanother computer12:20
mirakDraken: yes but you act as a router12:20
justin_Draken have you looked into bridge-utils?12:20
Badm4n!pico12:20
ubotuBadm4n: What?12:20
Drakeni tried justin_12:20
Drakeni really didnt know wat was going on12:21
bob_4_a_dayBadm4n vim work for you ?12:21
Badm4nubotu tell me about pico12:21
justin_do you have kernel support?12:21
Badm4n!info pico12:21
thegladiatormwe, thank you12:21
mwethegladiator: also look in /proc/ide, asuming it's ide of course12:21
No1VikingWhen I try to connect to another shared file I get a window to authenticate, how do I do to get rid of that?12:21
Badm4nbob_4_a_day : not friendly to use vim or vi :D12:21
thegladiatoryep12:21
mirakDraken: for me you just need to put a route eth1 --> eth0 and vice versa12:22
Drakenbut then, can they get to me ?12:22
mirakDraken: what is the network layout ?12:22
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Drakencomputer 1   ----------- ME    --------------- computer 2 ( has internet)12:23
bob_4_a_dayBadm4n yeah i don't particularly like vi/m either....  ever use joe or jed or mc's built in editor  mc is nice and friendly12:23
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mweBadm4n: try /msg ubotu foo to get info about foo12:23
mwevim is nice if you learn to use it properly12:23
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bob_4_a_dayBadm4n install mc and try  mc -e <some.file>12:24
lucasvohttp://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore12:24
bob_4_a_daymwe i know it has it's place but that is not in my hands... :)12:24
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mweBadm4n: if you like pico, you'll probably like the free clone nano as well12:24
sdoganyone knows about working mythtv packages for breezy (amd)12:25
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bob_4_a_daymwe you've not been keeping up...12:25
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mp3guyhey, is there any program that can cycle your gnome desktop picture in an interval?12:25
mwebob_4_a_day: what do you mean?12:25
bob_4_a_daynm12:26
morphixcan someone show me what a default 'untouched' /etc/network/interfaces config looks like, so i can fix mine back up12:26
mirakDraken: well for me you should google on "route"12:26
mwemorphix: no because the installer creates on for you, so the default differs12:26
mirakman route12:26
bob_4_a_daymwe the whole point of the descussion about pico is that nano doesn't function correctly for him12:26
mirakDraken: I don't have done that since a long time12:26
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mwebob_4_a_day: heh. ok I see. just dropped in12:27
Badm4ndocta_v & bob_4_a_day : thx anyway i think it's all about nano :D not pico :D12:27
Badm4nbtw12:27
Badm4napt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?12:27
Badm4nno need to install nmap ?12:27
e-fonzany one know about Gnucash?12:27
ubunt-newhow do i install nmap12:27
Polly_Morfapt-get install nmap12:27
liablemorphix: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz12:27
xiaogilWhen I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?12:28
ubunt-newit does not work12:28
marccdwhere can I search for ubuntu packages on the web?12:28
Polly_Morferror?12:28
morphixmwe i mean what the default would be configure for dhcp12:28
Polly_Morfwhat errormessages?12:28
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voicuwhoever gave me that source-o-matic link, thanks a lot, i finally got kde3.5 installed12:28
bob_4_a_dayubunt-new already installed ?12:29
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mwevoicu: yeah it's kinda cool12:29
justin_ubunt-new do you have permissions set to use apt-get with your user?12:29
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ubunt-newnmap12:29
ubunt-newbash: nmap: command not found12:29
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Badm4ndc :D12:30
Badm4napt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?12:30
Badm4nno need to install nmap ?12:30
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mikelohi do i unrar a file?12:30
liablemorphix: iface eth0 inet dhcp12:30
mweyou need to use sudo for apt-get install12:30
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ubunt-newyes i am root12:30
mikeloi tried unrar in sunaptic but it didn't work12:30
joostmikelo: install rar12:30
liablemorphix: thats it, if you want it at boot, add auto eth0 on line above12:30
morphixi have.12:31
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mikeloi used unrar12:31
marccdanybody up to a challenge with postfix/sasl?12:31
Toma-anyone here using dapper? wanna test something for me?12:31
e-fonzmikelo: you need to do that in terminal12:31
morphixbut eth0 when i bring the device up.. doesnt get an ip12:31
justin_ubunt-new ... so what was the error message12:31
mikeloyeah of course12:31
bob_4_a_dayubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmap-frontend12:31
twilightToma-, if i can ..12:31
bob_4_a_dayubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmapfe  even12:31
e-fonzmikelo rar e <filename.rar>12:32
ubunt-newsudo apt-get install nmapfe12:32
ubunt-newPassword:12:32
ubunt-newLser paketlistor... Frdig12:32
ubunt-newBygger beroendetrd... Frdig12:32
ubunt-newE: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmapfe12:32
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mikeloe-fonz, ok12:32
ubunt-newit says could not find package12:32
morphixit just has "Link encap: ethernet, etc" then next like is "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST"12:32
e-fonzworked for me12:32
mikelojoost,  thanx12:32
Toma-twilight: its just the new amsn. wanna see if the new static libs work a treat in dapper. http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/amsn_0.95-3.deb12:32
morphixnormally on the 2nd line it has the IP, etc12:32
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Polly_Morfubunt-new: nmap-frontend does not exist12:32
Polly_Morfjust install nmap12:32
ubunt-newyes same error12:32
justin_why don't you just use nmap12:32
Polly_Morfapt-get install nmap12:32
ubunt-newcoulld not find packaged12:32
bob_4_a_dayi cant read that spam thingy  so could you translate the error message ubunt-new ?12:32
Toma-nmapfe is what youre all after12:33
ubunt-newcould not find the package12:33
mwejust prefix it with LANGUAGE=C12:33
bob_4_a_day!repso12:33
ubotubob_4_a_day: Wish i knew12:33
bob_4_a_day!repos12:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource12:33
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bob_4_a_dayubunt-new ^12:33
No1Viking!tell ubunt-new about repos12:34
Polly_Morfubuntu-new: I can see youre swedish... joina #linux.se p quakenet. en vldigt trevlig kanal12:34
e-fonzmikelo: just type rar in terminal to get commandlist12:34
twilightToma-, perfect installation12:34
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mweubunt-new: I don't have a nmapfe package file either. only just nmap12:34
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twilightToma-, I have to see something else?12:35
bob_4_a_day!info nampfe12:35
bob_4_a_day!info nmapfe12:35
ubotunmapfe: (The Network Mapper Front End), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 200 kB12:35
bob_4_a_dayi'm getting tired....12:35
mikeloe-fonz: i did that the thing is that i can't mangae to keep the same directory structure i have in the in archive12:35
Toma-twilight: pefect :) thanks for that12:35
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morphix:(12:36
joostmikelo: maybe use unrar x12:36
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mikelojoost, thanx anyway12:37
joostmikelo   x  means:           Extract files with full path12:37
No1VikingWhy do I need to authenticate to a samba share?12:37
e-fonz05mikelo: rar x <filename.rar>?12:37
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Khainedoes anyone know why eclipse-sdk needs mozilla-browser ?12:38
Badm4napt-get install mrtg <---- enough ? or i must do something else to make my mrtg running12:38
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justin_Khaine it needs the mozilla runtime libs12:38
ubunt-newcan i do sudo apt get install repositorires12:38
mikelothe directories' characters have accents that's why it doesn't work well12:38
e-fonzmikelo: just learned how to unrar this morning, so my knowledge is limited ;)12:39
afiefWhat's the difference between the various linux file systems?12:39
Khaineic12:39
morphix:(12:39
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bob_4_a_daynope ubunt-new  but you can do apt-setup maybe12:39
justin_eclipse was designed to built against that lib12:39
morphixstupid config12:39
e-fonzmikelo12:39
Khaineok, it just kinda seemed weird, but that makes sense12:40
SabooMorning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something.  the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input12:40
e-fonzmikelo: put filename in quotes!!! ""12:40
No1VikingIt says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?12:40
KhaineI suppose it would be slightly nicer to have the libs as a seperate package12:40
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e-fonzanyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?12:41
ubunt-newi opens to insert a cd12:41
justin_what do you expect considering the main contributor12:41
afiefIs there any reason to use EXT3? all the online reviews i saw say it lost in the comparission12:41
Khainehuh?12:41
ubunt-newwhat to do to insert the cd12:41
docta_vafief: it's considered to be more battle tested than reiserfs12:42
docta_vthat's about it12:42
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justin_Khaine IBM was a major contributor12:42
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bob_4_a_dayafief opposed to what ?12:42
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Badm4n!Ping me12:42
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Badm4n12:42
Khaineoh ok, thats what your on about12:42
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e-fonzanyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?12:42
afiefZope, ReiserFS, Tar.gz and uncompressed TAR12:42
SabooAnyone have a suggestion for me?12:42
justin_yeah sorry i've been up too long12:42
Khainenah, its ok, I was thinking you were talking about a maintainer or something12:43
morphixis there a way i can reset the config for interfaces?12:43
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liablemorphix: what is the actual problem, i gave you what you needed for dhcp12:43
Badm4n!info mrt12:44
Badm4n!info mrtg12:44
ubotumrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB12:44
ubotumrt: (Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (BGP4+/BGP/RIPng/RIP2)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.2.2a-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 738 kB, Installed size: 1852 kB12:44
ubunt-newhow do i install repositories12:44
xiaogilWhen I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?12:44
morphixit isnt even trying to get an IP12:44
bob_4_a_dayi hardly see how one could compair ext3 and reiserfs to a tar archive, compressed or not.12:44
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liablemorphix: does dhclient eth0 work?12:44
morphixit had no 'inet addr: or mask12:44
mwemorphix: this is maybe too late, but next time you mess with the interfaces file, backup the original first12:44
e-fonzanyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?12:44
morphixhas*12:44
ubunt-newhow do i install repositories12:44
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liablemorphix: you want dhcp or static?12:45
docta_ve-fonz: we saw your question, we don't care12:45
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morphixdhco12:45
morphixdhcp*12:45
liablemorphix: then the line i gave you is all you need..12:45
liablemorphix: paste what you put to #flood12:45
Nicholashi everyone =)12:45
apokryphosubunt-new: repositories aren't really installed, they're added12:45
apokryphos!tell ubunt-new about repositories12:46
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Badm4nubotu tell me about mrtg12:46
morphix:/12:46
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morphixi have to type it all out.. argh12:46
MoonRangerubotu tell me about mrtg12:46
No1VikingIt says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?12:46
liablemorphix: what? six words! not like its that big a chore..12:46
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MoonRanger!mrtg12:47
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, MoonRanger12:47
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Nicholasi don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but: i am running Ubuntu 5.10 and I wanted to install KDE and I did the command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and well I saw the kubuntu splash screen and most kubuntu apps but i have the gnome panel system as my gui instead of kde can someone tell me whats wrong =) ?12:48
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bob_4_a_dayyou guys asking about mrt/mrtg do know about the manual pages don't you ?12:49
justin_Nicholas are you using GDM?12:49
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Badm4nhow do i install repositories12:49
SabooI am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input...Any suggestions of what to do??12:49
Nicholascurrently, yes but i installed the kubuntu desktop system via the apt-get command12:49
e-fonzdocta_v: i don't need your crappy answer, telling me you don't know is enough!12:49
bob_4_a_dayNicholas logout and select the kde when you start to log in12:50
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Nicholask let me try12:50
danny!tell badm4n about respo12:50
justin_Nicholas - i haven't done this in a long time ... there is an environmental variable in one of the files in /etc that you change from gnome to kde12:50
bob_4_a_daydanny you sleppy too ?12:51
mwee-fonz: sometimes I don't see the new menu shortcut until I reboot12:51
cyphaseis there a "professional", "scientific" comparison of Breezy and Windows XP?12:51
cyphase:)12:51
mwee-fonz: or log out and back in12:51
e-fonzmwe: i rebooted several times, but still don't see it12:51
danny!tell badm4n about repos12:51
bob_4_a_day:)12:51
dannybob_4_a_day, i have just woke up12:52
docta_ve-fonz: i don't need you spamming my screen every 30 seconds12:52
e-fonzmwe: is there a way to find out where it is installed?12:52
mwee-fonz: also sometimes a program dont provide a shorcut at least for kde, but I install menu and menu-xdg and it provides a Debian submenu that usually has the shortcut12:52
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mwee-fonz: yeah. dpkg -L gnucash|grep bin12:52
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e-fonzmwe: Ok gonna try that12:52
mwee-fonz: probably /usr/bin/gnucash12:53
Nicholasyay12:53
Nicholasit worked, thanks everyone =)12:53
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afiefIs there a way to change my filesystem without formating?12:53
e-fonzdocta_v: A polite answer would do the trick too you know?12:53
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apokryphosafief: no12:53
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afiefAny way to do it12:54
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afiefis there a way to backup my data and flush it onto a new filesystem after the format?12:54
ubunt-newhow do i install repositories12:54
apokryphosafief: yes. Put the data on another partition12:55
e-fonzmwe: thanks found the starter!12:55
apokryphosneedless to say, it totally depends on what FS you're talking about here12:55
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afiefapokryphos: I think i'll try Reiser3 or 4... not sure yet which12:56
bob_4_a_daye-fonz to answer your question yes several ways to find executables.  easiest might be type 'which <app.name> '   also   find /usr/ -name <app.name>    or even locate <app.name>  but locate uses a database that must be updated between the install and the locate   howto is 'sudo updatedb '12:56
Nikusanubunt-new, in synaptic goto settings -> repositories -> settings and then tick "show disabled repositories". Then enable them12:56
afiefwill copying the operation system to another portatition and copying it back again work?:S12:56
afief(my experience with windows says no, but this isn't windows)12:56
apokryphosafief: I don't think it will, no.12:57
twilightafief, only ext2 to ext3 it's possible without format.12:57
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bob_4_a_dayafief sure it will work.12:57
Drakenerr afief12:57
Drakenit will work with windows12:57
e-fonzbob_4_a_day: found the starter, put in on my desktop, works fine! Thanks guys!12:58
afiefwell, i have abandoned windows for good:)12:58
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Drakenand if it doesnt, i just pop windows cd in, go to repair console, type fixboot,fixmbr,bootcfg /scan12:58
Drakenthen it should work12:58
Drakenbut i got grub win32, easy edit it in windows :D12:58
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dodgyvilleHello12:59
SabooIs anmyone able to help me?12:59
afiefokay so i will have to format for a new filesystem... i'll leave that till Drapper is out01:00
Sabooanyone*01:00
afiefSaboo: rule 1: ask question then see if anyone can help you01:00
SabooI have..01:00
SabooMorning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input01:00
morphixcan you and how do u get ubuntu to scan for hardware changes?01:00
dodgyvilleI have one of my desktops displaying on my tv, but it is way to large for the screen. Do I need to restrict the resolution in xorg.conf, or is there a simplier way?01:00
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afiefmaybe you should start the installer with noscsi?01:01
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bob_4_a_dayafief ubuntu's installed ignores 'noscsi'  and  'nousb'  i haven't found any way to skip either of those.01:02
athlon_ubuntu or apt made some changes on grub's menu.lst and now I cant find the option to boot Windows on grub01:02
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athlon_is there a configuration program that scans for OS-es that I have and change grub accordingly01:03
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afiefwell, i'm a noob myself... but i tried:)01:03
faboulouz_hello01:03
faboulouz_in dapper gnome menu crash, why ?01:03
visik7athlon_: is quite simple to modify by yourself /boot/grub/menu.lst01:03
nicholas1520hi =)01:03
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visik7faboulouz_: 'couse it's a develop release ?01:04
bob_4_a_dayafief it was a logical approach, it just don't work on ubuntu....01:04
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faboulouz_and now ?01:04
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athlon_visik7, its weird sometimes. The first time I boot, I cant go to my ubuntu cos grub said it couldnt find root(0,5). I had to change it to root(1,5). So I changed menu.lst myself to make the change permanent.01:04
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afiefwell, i guess someone else will have to help our new friend then01:05
athlon_the next time I boot, it said it couldnt find a partition at root(1,5)01:05
athlon_and I had to change it back to root(0,5)01:05
beruicCan anyone help me in #wine?01:05
bob_4_a_daycyphase yeah, hehhe i don't compile anything i write; it's all bash.01:05
athlon_so now I am just going to let ubuntu change menu.lst automatically and save myself the headache01:05
morphixis there a way to list all IRQ's?01:06
cyphasebob_4_a_day, python for me :D01:06
Boblcan ubuntu read ntfs partitions?01:06
Seveasyes01:07
Seveasand write too :)01:07
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BoblSeveas, not experimental?01:07
Seveasyes, but so far working for me01:07
BoblSeveas, sounds good :)01:07
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Casanovahi.. i have an issue with hdparm can some one help me?01:08
Seveas!tell Casanova about someone01:08
Casanova:-)01:08
morphixi have got inet6 addr01:08
bob_4_a_dayBobl it reads nativly but write access to ntfs is still alpha maybe bata01:08
morphixi want a normal inet addr01:08
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morphixnot v601:08
morphixargh01:08
Casanovawhen i start vlc i get the error saying libgail.so and libatk-bridge.so are not found01:08
Casanovabut they are available01:09
mweSeveas: the ntfs write support, is it the standard experimental kernel support?01:09
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Casanovasorry this is not with hdparm01:09
Boblread is enough for me anyway01:09
Boblfor now01:09
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Seveasmwe, dapper has a fuse module using libntfs, which does more than the standard kernel experimental support01:09
bob_4_a_dayBobl all i need is dd  :)01:10
mweI see01:10
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beruicCan anyone help me in #wine?????01:11
globeI have questions about configuring X for laptop, can someone help me?01:11
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Seveasberuic, this is not #wine so probably no01:11
Seveas!tell globe about someone01:11
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Nikusanberuic, try #winehq01:11
bob_4_a_dayit works like this dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<disk_with_ntfs_on_it> count=1024   and then make a linux partition and go  :)01:12
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beruicNikusan: thx01:13
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globeI just installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop. I cant start X because the config is wrong. In the forum somebody said to set VGA=771 , but I cant find where.01:14
globeI looked in the x config file and didnt see anything01:15
SabooI've now unplugged everything out of the back of my PC except the mouse and keyboard, and it is now hanging on the line where it says PS/2 mouse...01:15
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bob_4_a_dayi really don't think i'll be leaving 'nome installed long enough to get sick of it.....    errr wrong too late.01:15
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hyakuheiglobe: whoever said that was just wrong01:15
hyakuheiglobe: the VGA=771 reference would have been passed by grub at boot time to give a graphical boot, nothing to do with X01:16
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mweglobe: vga= is usuallay a boot parameter01:16
mweglobe: and not related to X01:16
bob_4_a_dayvga=771 is not an sorg.conf arg it is a kernel arg line....01:16
globeokay. That is good to know.01:16
hyakuheiglobe: what errors does X throw?01:16
tristanglobe : what is your graphic card?01:16
thegladiatorhwos the draper release doing ?01:17
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globehyakuhei: x says that it cant load the config file01:17
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bob_4_a_dayi use vga=788 here  hehhe01:18
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Pegasos989How can I adjust the pthreads configuration to have higher max stack size01:18
jose171181hello, ubuntu users, could you please run two scripts for me?01:18
globetristan: the graphics card is an intel 8285201:18
mwethegladiator: I guess it's ok to install if you know how to fix your own problems01:18
bob_4_a_dayglobe maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg01:19
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jose171181the only "requirement" is ffmpeg installed01:19
hyakuheiglobe: this is bad practice in general, but try to run X as root01:19
thegladiatormwe, which one mwe ?01:19
hyakuheiglobe: that will get round any permissions problems01:19
thegladiatormwe, hdd ?01:19
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mwethegladiator: I was commenting on dapper :)01:20
xukunwhen I was installing ubuntu I choose to dutch language. How can I change to english?01:20
thegladiatorah :)01:20
jose171181anyone ubuntu community?01:20
mwexukun: /etc/environment, change LANG and LANGUAGE01:20
Pygino, why running X as root :/01:20
LoRexukun: $EDITOR /etc/environment01:20
globehyakuhei: good idea. should I enable root account or use sudo?01:20
bob_4_a_dayxukun sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale01:20
Pygido not suggest root :/01:20
Pygido not enable root :/01:20
hyakuheijust sudo should be fine01:21
hyakuheiPygi: read before you post01:21
xukunthanks bob_4_a_day LoRe mwe01:21
Pygihyakuhei: huh01:21
hyakuheiglobe: we are only seeing if X runs as root, not going to use it in general01:21
jose171181oKtosiTe, last try: do you have ffmpeg installed and able to run two commands for me?01:21
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jose171181dunno why it was not intended as private message01:22
thaishan?01:22
mwexukun: I guess it would be LANGUAGE="en_NL:en" LANG="en_NL"01:22
bob_4_a_daypygi if you want to set the root password it's easy, just do 'sudo passwd '01:22
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globehyakuhei: right. unfortunately I have to reboot. I am in windows so I can use the internet.01:22
xukunmwe, true01:22
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Pygibob: yes, I know, but don't suggest puting root pass :P01:22
hyakuheiglobe: wait01:22
bob_4_a_daydon't sujest ?01:22
Pygibob: that's bad and the mighty penguin will smash you :P01:23
hyakuheiglobe: do you not have any internet access in ubuntu?01:23
bob_4_a_dayPygi you own linux do you ?01:23
bob_4_a_dayhmmm news to me.01:23
globenot unless I can get my wifi card online from the shell01:23
Pygibob: own? heh :P01:23
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giggseyWhen I try to load amarok I get SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0 (via terminal)01:23
hyakuheiglobe, that isnt hard mate :)01:23
jose171181thanks for ignoring me, have a beautiful day01:23
Drakenhow do u enable root ?01:24
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apokryphosgiggsey: what version?01:24
PygiDraken: you don't need root...use sudo if you must01:24
apokryphosDraken: by setting a root pass01:24
giggseyof amarok? or ubuntu01:24
hyakuheiglobe: is it a native card or does it use ncurses?01:24
bob_4_a_dayoh you mean that this is your channel and you'll ban me for that Pygi ?01:24
Drakeni want root01:24
apokryphosgiggsey: amaroK01:24
mwesetting a root password is ok. just opens a potential security hole. not too bad if you use a good password01:24
Drakenu cant sudo when in a gui01:24
thegladiatorgiggsery , you may also want to try #amarok . it could have been acused if you modified fonts , themes or something . just a guess01:24
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giggseyapokryphos, 1.301:24
apokryphosDraken: huh?01:24
Pygibob: lol, no ofcourse :) just suggesting not to advise people to use root :P especially the ones who don't know what they are doin' :P01:24
apokryphosgiggsey: update to the latest -- there's a kubuntu repo with it01:24
apokryphos!amarok 1.3.701:25
ubotuamarok 1.3.7 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php01:25
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Drakenim using kubuntu, and anything i want to change, always says u need to be a admin01:25
globehyakuhei: ummm, I dont know what that means. It is an external card that is listed in the ubuntu wifi supported list.01:25
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hyakuheiDraken: thats just broken then01:25
Drakenand yes i have tried my normal user password, doesnt work01:25
PygiDraken: you can "gksudo" or "kdesu"01:25
otepgksudo?01:25
apokryphosDraken: yes..... so you put in your *user* pass01:25
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otepi mean, use gksudo then01:25
apokryphosDraken: you *never* should need a root pass on Kubuntu01:25
mweDraken: sounds broken. is the user in the admin group?01:25
Pygiapokryphos: agreed :)01:26
Drakenmwe, i cant check, because only a admin can01:26
apokryphosDraken: what version of Kubuntu are you running01:26
hyakuheiglobe: we can save the networking tutorial for another day ;) go see if you can get X working :)01:26
Drakenlatest01:26
Drakendownloaded yesturday01:26
Drakenkubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso01:26
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apokryphosDraken: you  need to grab the updates from breezy-updates01:26
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mweDraken: no type groups as your own user in a terminal and it will show you what groups you're in01:26
globehyakuhei: okay. Thanks!01:26
hyakuheiDraken: cat /etc/group01:26
apokryphosDraken: enable breezy-updates repository, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed, and then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:26
hyakuheiglobe: np01:26
mweDraken: the user created in the installer should be in the admin group if you didn't change it01:26
Drakenok apokryphos01:27
Drakenwill that fix it up ?01:27
SeveasDraken, did you perhaps do a server install?01:27
globehyakuhei: do you happen to have a website or wiki that has that kind of nfo in it?01:27
Drakennope Seveas01:27
apokryphosDraken: it should. Is this the first user on the box?01:27
SeveasDraken, odd, are you in the admin group (the id command should tell)01:27
hyakuheiglobe: I know the ubuntu pages have some good info01:27
bob_4_a_daychances are if he'd done a server install he'd have a root password01:27
Drakenwell i cant check atm Seveas01:27
Drakenim in windows01:27
Drakenjust finishing a downloa01:28
thegladiatoris ubuntu being used commercially ? in compamies ?01:28
globehyakuhei: okay. I will look into that in abit. Thanks again01:28
Drakenbut i gave root a password anyways, but when i try login, it says root is disabled ?01:28
SeveasDraken, then check later, the user created when installing should be in the admin group01:28
thegladiatorfor official use with comemrcial support01:28
Seveasroot cannot login in the gui, that's disabled in gdm/kdm config01:28
MarcNDraken: root is also disabled for login.01:28
Drakenok01:28
bob_4_a_dayDraken when you try to login in X root is 'by default' disabled in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  "assuming gnome"01:29
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giggseyin some cases, root is needed01:30
DrakenMarcN, some of us are not linux pros01:30
Drakenits easyer to use the gui01:30
MarcNgiggsey: very rarely, and in that case sudo -s gets you there.01:30
Drakenand u cant just sudo in the gui :P01:30
Seveasgiggsey, no it isn't :)01:30
SeveasMarcN, sudo -i01:30
giggseyyeah, but you need root to install sudo :P01:31
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YeahnudeIt says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin01:31
riccardociao01:31
Seveasgiggsey, hehe, that's why the installer is doing that :)01:31
giggsey(if you install it on a different distro)01:31
MarcNgiggsey: sudo is installed by default. and the first account is added to sudousers01:31
shad0w1ehow do I copy the mbr of one drive onto another? to check.. is it : dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=446 count=1   ???01:31
Seveasbs=51201:31
shad0w1e512 will include the partition table as well, no?01:31
SeveasYeahnude, you shouldn't01:32
thegladiatorYeahnude, perhaps in the boot menu , if you have one , there are 2 other modes , one for test and other for mem test . try the test mode01:32
mcjerryNEWBS: login as normal user then su root in terminal console then apt-get install sudo01:32
YeahnudeIt says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin - Anyone know? ( I only have the root account )01:32
MarcNYeahnude: you don't need to login as root.  It is called 'best practice' not to.   Use sudo or gksudo when  you really need to do something as root.01:32
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hyakuheishad0w1e: to what end are you doing that, as the dd approach is dangerous01:32
SeveasYeahnude, login in terminal, create normal user, use that user to login01:32
YeahnudeMarcN i only have root account01:32
YeahnudeSeveas hey, how i login at terminal?01:32
Yeahnude:P01:32
SeveasDo NOT use root unless absolutely needed01:32
yatesygoto a console then01:32
MarcNYeahnude: and how did you get only a root account and not a user account?01:32
yatesycontrol alt f101:32
bob_4_a_dayhehhe when i install ubuntu first command i type after it boots is 'apt-get remove sudo '   :)01:32
SeveasYeahnude, <ctrl><alt><f1>01:32
yatesybob_4_a_day: why?01:33
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bob_4_a_daycause i don't like sudo01:33
yatesywhy?01:33
yatesyits a huge timesaver01:33
YeahnudeSeveas yes so im in terminal. I want to creat a account so i can use the "admin" things in ubuntu01:33
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apokryphosbob_4_a_day: it's the superior model01:33
shad0w1ehyakuhei, just copying the mbr onto a new harddrive01:33
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bob_4_a_dayyatesy bull roar01:33
mcjerryneither do i, su suits my needs in one open terminal01:33
SeveasYeahnude, adduser some_name && adduser some_name admin01:33
thegladiatorbob_4_a_day, perhaps you do want to give others an easy acess ?01:33
yatesybob_4_a_day: what?01:34
bob_4_a_dayyou are obviously not a console user01:34
Seveasbob_4_a_day, -ETOPIC01:34
hyakuheishad0w1e: why?01:34
Seveasthis is not a discussion for in here, please stop01:34
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shad0w1ehyakuhei, becase I dont have a Windows 2000 Professional CD handy01:34
yatesybob_4_a_day: ... i've been using consoles for years frankly01:34
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Seveasyatesy, -ETOPIC01:34
bob_4_a_daySeveas he asked01:34
hyakuheiI see01:34
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yatesySeveas: roger01:34
bob_4_a_daySeveas what should i do ignore and not answer ?01:35
hyakuheishad0w1e: Well, dd seems like the right route, just be aware that there are a lot of external factors involved so its not guarenteed to work01:35
yatesySeveas: whats the -E supposed to symbolise?!01:35
shad0w1ehyakuhei, is count=1 ?01:35
afiefWhy does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S01:35
shad0w1ethats what im checking01:35
YeahnudeSeveas In the last it says, after password i must fill in the account rate. What is the best?01:35
hyakuheishad0w1e: if the mbr on that disk is 512bytes then yes01:35
Yeahnudehighest rate01:35
Seveasyatesy, it's a stupis geeky way of saying offtopic. Constants starting with E are errors :)01:35
globeHow do I tell xwin where my screen is? Xwin wont start: the fatal error is that it cant find any screens.01:35
Seveashighest rate?01:35
yatesySeveas: ah heh01:35
shad0w1ehyakuhei, would it be anything else?01:36
Athamehello all01:36
hyakuheishad0w1e: I think it can be, not normally though01:36
hyakuheihey globe, no luck?01:36
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shad0w1ehyakuhei, the target hard disk is > 132 GB. the source is not. will that make a difference?01:36
hyakuheiglobe: X didnt start but the window manager did, couldnt find X and then died01:36
steelehi, can someone aide me? I want to start VICE with x64, but it seems there is the kernal missing: but cbm4linux cannot be installed, whyever, does someone know about this problem?01:36
YeahnudeSeveas i wrote add user, name: fredrik password: ******* and after that it says "vrde swedish, translate= rate" value.. something like that. It says that normal user have 1000, i want the best so i can change admin things in ubuntu01:36
hyakuheishad0w1e: I couldnt tell you, maybee google for the datasheet for that particular hdd01:36
shad0w1ehyakuhei, OK THANKS!01:37
SeveasYeahnude, 100001:37
globehyakuhei: the window manager sort of started. I am starting to think that it is using the wrong character set because instead of displaying borders around the error box it had abunch of hex chars01:37
afiefWhy does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S01:38
hyakuheiglobe: that could have actually been a "ncurses" interface01:38
Seveasafief, shared or exclusive?01:38
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hyakuheiafief: building a cached tree of future renderings perhaps?01:38
AthameI'm a complete linux noob, I just installed unbutu as a dual boot with xp pro. When I boot into ubuntu, I get to the 'flash' screen for ubuntu hear the music and the system freezes, does the same thing with the live CD. Any ideas what's happening and how to fix it?01:39
hyakuheithough that sounds stupid, I retract that and bow my head in shame01:39
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shad0w1eAthame, hahaha n00b!01:39
afiefSevas: I don't know what that means^^01:39
hyakuheishad0w1e: shut up01:39
shad0w1ebtw, you're a newbie, not a n00b.01:39
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Athamegotcha :P01:40
Seveasshad0w1e: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:40
mcjerryAthame: what cpu and what iso did you dload and install and what video card do you have?01:40
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afiefhyakuhei: would be a shame, since it could render it without hardware acceleration just in time01:40
hyakuheiafief: aye01:40
globehyakuhei: okay. I'll believe that. Is X having trouble finding the hardware interface to my screen or is it having an internal problem?01:41
Athamepent 4 , breezy, nvidia g force01:41
afiefhyakuhei: any idea how i can turn it off? i'm using 180 MB ram, of which 110 are 3ddesktop01:41
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YeahnudeWhat is the command for user setup in terminal ? last quest:P01:41
SeveasYeahnude, adduser is complete?01:41
mcjerryAthame: does it hang on the usplash or just go to a black screen and you here music?01:41
apokryphosYeahnude: user setup? You mean add new user?01:41
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hyakuheiafief: sorry, I have no experience with 3D-Desktop as such, more than likely its grabbing a pre-defined amount of ram though01:41
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hyakuheiafief: so find the config file / modify the source01:42
bob_4_a_dayAthame network issue maybe.01:42
Athamemcjerry - it hangs on upsplash01:42
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hyakuheiglobe: its really hard to tell from here, sorry01:42
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afiefhyakuhei: would love to start playing with sources, but my C/C++ knowledge is limited01:42
hyakuheiAthame: a lot of the time that error is to do with ESD blocking io, trying to access sound hardware.01:42
globehyakuhei: n/p. Thanks for your help ;-)01:42
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hyakuheiglobe: np, if you can get more info on the problem I will be happy to take another look01:43
Athamecan it be fixed from bios or xp? I can't get into ubuntu at all?01:43
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McJerryAthamo: can you boot to recovery mode and get  to a console01:43
Athameno01:44
giggseyRight, I've upgraded to amaroK 1.3.7 and its still giving SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 001:44
YeahnudeSeveas I have now logged in as the new account "fredrik" but i want to use the "adminstration - > Add Comp" So i can fix somethings in the network01:44
globehyakuhei: thx. I am going to venture into getting my netgear wifi up ....01:44
hyakuheiglobe: do you use WEP or WPA?01:44
SeveasYeahnude, as root: adduser fredrik admin01:44
Seveasthen frdrik can use his own password when doing this01:44
globehyakuhei: nope. I turned that off to simplify things. I am MAC filtering for now.01:45
hyakuheicoolio01:45
McJerryAthame: which iso did you dload and install ?01:45
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hyakuheiglobe: should be easy to set up01:45
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AthameMCJerry - breezy the newest version, d/l it last night01:46
hyakuheiyou need to find the interface its been given, like "eth0"01:46
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hyakuheiglobe: what make was the card again01:46
bob_4_a_dayAthame but which ?01:46
McJerryAthamo for x86 or 64 bit?01:46
redhookor mac?01:47
bob_4_a_dayor ppc ?01:47
Athame5.10 64 bit I think01:47
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globehyakuhei: its a netgear. the chart on the wifi card support list says it has the prism chipset.01:47
hyakuheicool,01:47
bob_4_a_dayAthame and you do have a k7 ?01:47
Athamesorry, k7?01:47
McJerryAtamo: I'd recommend dloading and installing x86 iso for your first install to see if this resolves issue01:48
bob_4_a_day64 bit processor01:48
afiefWhere can i find a good guide for programming under linux?(i already have a good windows experience)01:48
hyakuheiwell in linux if you type "dmesg | less" it will give you a load of information generated by the kernel, you can use pageUp or pageDown to go through the info, and q to quit, look for a reference to the wireless card, something like "wlan0" or "eth0"01:48
Athamebob-for-a-day yes, MCJerry I can try that, tonight01:49
hyakuheiglobe: on second thoughts, just type iwconfig, if you see an interface with lots of info, then it has seen your wifi card01:49
gnomefreakafief, what language you do you just want an ide or what?01:49
hyakuheiglobe: then just try: "iwconfig <interface> ap any"01:49
zamuroafief: Depends on what language u wanna learn about01:50
gnomefreakyou/or01:50
YeahnudeSeveas Failed to run network-admin Child terminated 1 status01:50
afiefwell, I am familiar with C, some C++, delphi, C# and another language that must not be named01:50
globehyakuhei: I was just reading about that. I am thinking that it will not because when I installed I had an avaya card in the slot that went bad on me.01:50
SeveasYeahnude, in the terminal: sudo echo foo01:50
Seveas(as user frederik)01:50
afiefbut i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide01:50
McJerryAthamo: otherwise since you cannot boot beyond usplash with cd, or recovery mode and get to console, no way i can help....maybe others can, but x86 install in 32bit would probably get you going then you can upgrade to k7 kernel later01:50
hyakuheiglobe: if that card isnt there now then it shouldnt matter01:50
cafuegoHmm, tequila flavours on a 40C+ day are just good[tm] 01:50
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zamuroafief: It's pretty much the same under Linux. I mean, if you are a console freak, you won't notice the difference01:51
AthameMCJerry - OK I'll try that, thank you for the help01:51
afiefzamuro: i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide01:51
gnomefreakafief, under linux is not much different than under windows just different editors01:51
cafuegoAthame: Also, on 32bit a lot of stuff "just works" that doesn't on 64bit.01:51
afiefwell, the problem is i know neither the editors, nor was i ever good with C++01:51
McJerryagreed01:51
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globehyakuhei: does ubuntu do a pcmcia scan on every boot and compile the drivers?01:51
cafuegoglobe: no01:51
zamuroI'd recommend you to start using xemacs01:51
globeI thought not01:52
YeahnudeSeveas i added instead account admin "adduser admin admin" sudo echo foo admin" ? im logged in with root in terminal. What should i write? When i have fixed this i can do the rest i thought : )01:52
gnomefreakemacs for beginners :(01:52
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zamurognomefreak: I started using Kwrite lol01:53
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gnomefreaki was thinking more of kdevelop or anjuta for beginners01:53
SeveasYeahnude, why didn't you follow a few simple directions?01:53
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YeahnudeSeveas sorry, i miiss understood it :p01:53
hyakuheiglobe: cardctl is run at boot, that should load into the kernel any modules pertaining to that card01:53
cafuegokyncani: Well, on Breezy anyway.01:54
antixis mysql going to be updated in breezy? I would like 4.1.x or higher01:54
globehyakuhei: okay. whats the irc client command?01:54
shreevatsaWhy do all GTK apps look crappy in KDE?01:54
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Seveas!info mysql-server breezy01:54
cafuegoantix: mysql-server-4.1 is already there01:54
ubotumysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB01:54
Seveas!info mysql-server-4.1 breezy01:54
ubotumysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 16929 kB, Installed size: 37968 kB01:54
Seveasthere :)01:54
hyakuheiglobe: well, you would need one, I suggest irssi, sooo you would need to:01:54
afiefzamuro: are the include libraries the same as under windows??01:54
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hyakuheiglobe: sudo apt-get install irssi-text01:55
hyakuheiglobe: run "irssi" from the command line01:55
bob_4_a_dayshreevatsa fonts ?01:55
YeahnudeSeveas how i do form step1. I promise to do right htis time. i promise to not ask more after i have fix this, i know its booring to answear me01:55
hyakuheiglobe: in irssi type "/server irc.freenode.net"01:55
antixcafuego, aha there is a mysql-client-4.1 thanks =)01:55
hyakuheiglobe: when it has connected to freenode type "/j #ubuntu"01:55
SeveasYeahnude, first put /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/sudoers on the pastebin01:55
cafuegoantix: Yes, but without mysql-server-4.1 that's a tad pointless.01:56
hyakuheiglobe: then you should be here01:56
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antixcafuego, ok thanks01:56
YeahnudeSeveas When im logged in as root in terminal?01:56
globehyakuhei: I thought there was a basic irc client that shipped with the kernel.... oh well. I'll see what I can do. (after I get a piece of paper ....)01:56
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zamuroafief: Not really... In fact, Linux is embed with its own c, c++ compiler01:56
gnomefreakglobe, xchat01:57
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cafuegoafief: The standard libs are. The ones pertaining specifically to the UI are not.01:57
bob_4_a_dayand after you have put all your secret system files on the paste bin run telnet server and sshd   lol01:57
hyakuheiglobe: not that im aware of, though xchat ships with ubuntu01:57
hyakuheithat needs X01:57
afiefwhere can i read more about that part?:s01:57
cafuegoafief: So stuff like <iostream> or <stdio.h> do exist on Linux.01:57
gnomefreakzamuro, hes gonna have to install gcc/g++01:57
globemaybe thats what I was thinking of01:57
afiefgnomefreak: i have01:58
cafuegoglobe: in-kernel irc... hmm... interesting idea01:58
gnomefreakoh ok01:58
zamurognomefreak: Forgot that! I had some issues related to gcc when i first installed ubuntu lol01:58
afiefgnomefreak: though when i try ./configure it still can't guess my arch automaticly01:58
cafuegoafief: You'll want 'build-essential'01:58
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iTuneHello01:58
zamuroiTune: Hi01:59
gnomefreakzamuro,  me too took me forever to figure out i needed gcc not just gcc4.0 :(01:59
iTuneI need help with BitchX01:59
iTune?01:59
zamurolol01:59
bob_4_a_dayiTune ?01:59
afiefshouldn't there be a category for this stuff or a meta header?01:59
iTunehow can i run bitchx01:59
iTune?01:59
Seveas!compiling01:59
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware01:59
cafuegoThere is no known cure except a bitchxerectomy.01:59
zamuroiTune: bitchx on a console01:59
gnomefreakiTune, in terminal type bitchx01:59
Seveascafuego, hehe01:59
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cafuego"alias bitchx='irssi-text': ; bitchx02:00
iTunezeah02:00
iTuneand i can use it02:00
iTunein terminal mode02:00
gnomefreakor if you have bitchx-gtk type xbitchx02:00
iTune?02:00
globecafuego: :-)02:00
Seveasin terminal, type: apt-get remove --purge bitch && apt-get install irssi-text && irssi02:00
zamuroiTune: Actually, bitchx _is_ a terminal based client02:00
bob_4_a_dayin a terminal/console type bitchx -n 'nickname' -c '#channel'  irc.server.ext iTune02:00
No1VikingI try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?02:00
cafuegoiTune: Althought it has an X in its name, BitchX is console-only.02:00
gnomefreakbitchx is a terminal only app02:00
McJerrywould recomment installing both gcc-3.4 along with gcc-4.0 and create two scripts called switch-compiler-3.4 and switch-compler-4.0 and placing them in /usr/local/bin as some progs require one or the other02:00
iTuneok02:00
iTunecan you tell me some good client02:00
iTune?02:00
zamuroNo1Viking: Try using your own username and password.02:01
cafuegoMcJerry: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure02:01
gnomefreaklol Seveas whats better about irrsi?02:01
bob_4_a_dayxchat iTune02:01
zamuroiTune: irssi... No doubt bout that02:01
YeahnudeSeveas pastebin what is that?02:01
Seveasgnomefreak, everything :)02:01
Yeahnude!info pastebin02:01
Seveas!tell Yeahnude about pastebin02:01
cafuegoiTune: for X windows, try x-chat (or even gaim)02:01
No1Vikingzamuro, did but no luck02:01
zygishi, where do I have specify required kernel module options to be loaded on boot?02:01
iTuneaha02:01
iTunethx a lot friends02:01
gnomefreaki might have to try it02:01
McJerrycafuego: yes, can do that, i have a tendency to forget so i created the scripts and mainly leave 3.4 as default02:02
zygisI see that /etc/modules.conf doesn't exist02:02
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zamuroHmmm... Never had that issue before... Is that other computer a windows machine?02:02
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cafuegozygis: in any file in /etc/modprobe.d/02:02
No1Vikingzamuro, nope, it's a ubuntu box02:02
bob_4_a_dayzamuro depends on what you do with irc if you like bx or irssi better.02:02
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BjornWcan somebody tell how I can add folders to the sidebar in Nautilus....ie the place where the Desktop and Home folder reside02:02
cafuegognomefreak: dapper like a 'vga=791' boot parm to help it along ;-)02:03
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cafuegoBjornW: start gedit, choose File -> Open, navigate to the folder you want to add, click the 'Add' button.02:03
zamurobob_4_a_day: For someone who just chats and wants to use a console client, I'd rather have recommend irssi.02:03
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zygiscafuego, ah.. will try :)02:04
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BjornWcafuego: thanks...btw thats some screwed interaction design02:04
bob_4_a_dayBjornW what folders you have in mind ?02:04
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zamuroGuys... Have you tried use the debian repositories on /etc/apt/sources.list and tried apt-get dist-update?02:04
BjornWbob_4_a_day: I'm having a mac for work and I kinda like to have a music and movies folder  in the sidebar02:05
bob_4_a_dayzamuro sure but for a chan op bx has some advantages02:05
No1VikingI try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?02:05
zamurobob_4_a_day: LOL... Like /fuckem02:05
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bob_4_a_dayzamuro if you want to break every thing that dist upgrade will do it.02:05
zamuroThere's an script on irssi which does that exactly02:05
YeahnudeSeveas Cant we take it from the begginging. I read it the ubotu told me. We say i creat a new account like: admin pw: **** - and then adduser admin admin. What should i do after? When i take /etc/passwd in root terminal i get no legitimacy "02:06
zamurobob_4_a_day: That's what I'm affraid of.02:06
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Drakenguys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository02:07
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Kindredhm, anyone know of a gnome based ftp client that's better than gftp?.. mmm gnome.02:07
SeveasYeahnude, yes we can start from the beginning, but I need to see the state of these 3 files to determine what to do next02:07
bob_4_a_dayBjornW if the music and movies directories are in your $HOME thet should appear there auto.02:07
gnomefreaki know i really shouldnt ask this but are vim commands any easier to learn than emacs?02:08
giggseyWhats the best music player?02:08
Drakenguys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository02:08
Seveasgnomefreak, they're both not too easy to grasp, but I find the vim commands more intuitive02:08
Seveas!tell Draken about repos02:08
zamurogiggsey: Depends on what you want to do and prior experience.02:08
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gnomefreakDraken,  in your sources.list take the # away from the begining of the line you want enabled02:09
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bob_4_a_dayBjornW you can make symlinks in $HOME to other locations and have them appear in the side bar too02:09
Drakenok ta gnomefreak02:09
gnomefreakSeveas, ty i will look for a guide on vim :)02:09
Seveasgnomefreak, vimtutor :)02:09
Seveas(it's a command)02:09
YeahnudeSeveas hos i show you those states?02:10
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Drakenwhere can i find source.list ?02:10
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gnomefreakahhhhhh ty lol almost too easy02:10
zygisghm.. cafuego, I've added my 'options snd-hda-intel model=z71v' to the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, but it doesn't work02:10
zamurogiggsey: There's amrok, xmms... I'd rather use xmms cuz looks like Winamp a lot and I really didn't felt the difference once I started using Linux02:10
cafuegoDraken: /etc/apt02:10
Drakenta02:10
bob_4_a_day!repos02:10
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:10
SeveasYeahnude, by putting those files on the pastebin...02:10
cafuegozygis: After a reboot it will.02:10
giggseythanks zamuro02:10
zamurogiggsey: No problem02:10
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zygiscafuego, no, it doesn't :)02:11
bob_4_a_daycafuego i figured one of had to hit it :)02:11
tuskerninihi there all02:11
zamurotuskernini: Hi02:11
rigmorI assume that most of you are experienced users of ubuntu. I'm having minor problems with a install script for a radeon driver. If any of you can help, I'll be more than grateful.02:11
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tuskerninidoes anyone have experience with a via vt8235 onboard soundcard?02:11
zamurorigmor: What spescific problem u have?02:11
zamuroSpecific**02:12
rigmorI don't know how to install the driver.02:12
YeahnudeSeveas so i send it to you? the pastebin02:12
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SeveasYeahnude, what do you mean?02:12
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rigmorI downloaded a driver package, with a install script. I don't know how to run the script.02:12
Seveasrigmor, from ati.com?02:13
zamurorigmor: Hmmm...02:13
Yeahnudehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ at that:S ? Im not sitting with the linux computer right now so u know :p i have it here next to my windows ocmputer02:13
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LoaderHello everyoone ..02:13
SeveasYeahnude, yes, paste the contents of these files at that site02:13
tuskerniniLoader: hi02:13
LoaderI`m new to ubuntu :)02:13
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McJerryrigmor: ./name-of-scrip.ext02:13
Yeahnudeand then your name ?02:14
Seveasyours :)02:14
rigmorinstall.sh02:14
zamurothen you should do sh install.sh02:14
rigmorin the terminal, that is?02:14
McJerryrigmor: ./name-of-script.ext = ./install.sh or as zamuo said sh install.sh02:15
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bob_4_a_dayBjornW maybe i told you wrong about that in gnome symlinks don't seem to show up in the side bar like they do in kde.... sorry.02:15
LoaderI was wondering how to save my settings to a usb stick since im using the livecd version of ubuntu :P02:15
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YeahnudeSeveas i have paste it now02:16
=== gnomefreak bbl while updates are going :)
Yeahnudewith a picture02:16
rigmorCan't locate the pkginfo file.02:16
SeveasYeahnude, that's unreadable...02:16
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vrlna friend of mine is writing a certain script (e17 installation), but there is one problem: how could the script check if the distro in question is ubuntu breezy?02:17
Seveasdoes the Ubuntu machine have an internet connection?02:17
rigmorYes.02:17
vrlnI haven't seem to find a /etc/ubuntu-version02:17
vrlnis there something similar somewhere?02:17
Seveasvrln, /etc/lsb-release02:17
Seveassource /etc/lsb-release02:17
LoaderAnyone ?02:17
YeahnudeSeveas not right now, i will setup "sharing internet" with this computer to ( the ubuntu machine av 2 networkcards u know)02:17
vrlnawesome, thank you02:17
Yeahnudethats why i need to setup the network02:17
Seveasif [[ x"$DISTRIB_RELEASE" > x"5.04" ] ] ; then echo "Breezy or higher"; fi02:17
zamuroLoader: Hmm... isn't there a ./configure?02:18
bob_4_a_daywell that's another thing i've found that i don't like about nautilus that i do like about konqueror  the side bar in 'nome's nautilus is crap....02:18
SycheI am getting a Fatal: Module Reiserfs not found when I boot up. Custom kernel. / is Reiserfs02:18
SeveasYeahnude, ok, then it'll be a bit harder, meet me in a private chat02:18
hyakuheiSyche: you need to compile reiser into the kernel02:18
hyakuheirather than as a module02:18
SycheIts compiled in02:19
Sycheand it boots ok too02:19
hyakuheino its not, if its complaining like that02:19
bob_4_a_daySyche you have root on reiser and didn't compile in reiserfs support  lol02:19
vrlnalso, I'm on Breezy, and found something odd on my system: in /etc/, there is both a passwd and passwd- (same for shadow)02:19
bob_4_a_dayoh ok you did compile it in....02:19
vrlnis this normal? (and passwd is readable to my user account, while passwd- is not)02:19
Loaderzamuro, I have no idea, i had used other livecds from other distros and they had a script called configsave that would save all ur settings, files and changes you made the desktop and what not02:19
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cozmorning all02:19
Sycheyes. and everything as such works fine02:19
hyakuheivrln: backup from some admin program no doubt02:19
No1VikingI try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?02:20
Kindredrigmor, which driver exactly are you trying to install?02:20
vrln-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1240 2005-12-17 01:18 passwd02:20
vrlnvrln@core:/etc$ ls -l passwd-02:20
vrln-rw-------  1 root root 1240 2005-09-17 01:48 passwd-02:20
hyakuheiNo1Viking: what do you mean by shared?02:20
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Sychethe splash screen too. But when i skip the splash by ALT F1, there are a few errors02:20
zamuroSorry.. got confused... In you case, there's an script or even a x menu option to save your config.02:20
hyakuheivrln: looks safe02:20
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rigmorThe install.sh-file is placed in a folder, in the same folder, there's three other folders. Radeon, Extras and Drm. There's no readme here, so I don't know what to do.02:21
Loaderwhere is it ?02:21
No1Vikinghyakuhei, In Gnome, System ---Administration you have Shared folders02:21
zamurorigmor: Try looking for a configure file02:21
Loaderi cant seem to find it.02:21
bob_4_a_dayvrin world readable passwd    tisk tisk...02:21
hyakuheiNo1Viking: samba or nfs?02:21
No1Vikingsamba02:21
dannyhey anyone know how i check that mysql server is installed and mysql-client is installed and working02:21
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zamuroLoader: Never used ubuntu livecd. But i seem to remember that knoppix had one of that kind.02:21
No1Vikinghyakuhei, samba02:22
zamurodanny: Try mysql -uroot02:22
Loader:/02:22
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rigmorIt's a ATI mobility radeon 7500c driver.02:22
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Sychecan anyone explain how usplash works?02:23
hyakuheiNo1Viking: no idea why it is doing that, try mounting the remote share using the command line02:23
cozSyche hold on I will find the url for you02:23
Sycheor the requiremets in a kernel02:23
dannyZamuro, it says error 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'02:24
Sycheok cgz02:24
No1VikingOK02:24
LoaderAnyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?02:24
hyakuheiNo1Viking: ie: #mount -t smbfs -o -username=<user>,-password=<foo> 192.168.1.5:/<share>02:24
zamuroOh... you have to create the socket file02:24
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dannyzamuro, and how do i do that02:24
[nige] hey alll02:24
No1VikingThanks hyakuhei02:24
cozSyche what do you need to know about it?02:24
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zamurogo to you mysql install dir and in bin folder execute mysql_create_system_tables02:25
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Sychecoz: I compiled my own kernel. It cant seem to access vesa fb drivers . It gives the Fatal module reiserfs not found. Thugh usplash works02:26
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[nige] g'day all02:26
zamuro[nige] : G'day, mate02:26
Sychebut since / is Reiserfs, I cant compile it as a module02:26
[nige] anyone configued newest ATI drivers with Breezy yet?02:26
Yeahnudeanyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?02:26
rigmorI installed ubuntu last night. I can't install the ati driver.  Do i need some sort of xfree86-program, or something?02:27
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zamuroYeahnude: hmmm... there's an account manager02:27
Syche[nige]  : 8.20.10?02:27
[nige] yer02:27
cozI see well there are many threads on the forums I can look but I think you wqwold have moreluck looking yourself02:27
Yeahnudezamuro but i cant go in at that in the "ubuntu" it says child 1 termintaed"02:28
[nige] i had it working with 8.16 without using the mesa 3d drivers02:28
[nige] but since i updated it...02:28
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[nige] its back to mesa02:28
Yeahnudezamuro cant i do it in the terminal02:28
Syche[nige]  : I've done it02:28
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zamuroYeahnude: Yeah... lemme check02:28
[nige] Syche, how did youget it to work02:28
cozsince your needs are more specific than most who do not ocmpile02:28
Syche[nige]  : hang on let me give you a link02:28
[nige] okay02:28
[nige] :>02:28
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[nige] cheers02:28
zamuroYeahnude: try as root users-admin02:28
LoaderAnyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?02:29
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[nige] Loader, i have used it a few times02:29
bob_4_a_dayhave yea02:29
cozLoader I have used it also02:29
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Yeahnudezamuro i got GTK WaRNING cant open display02:29
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bob_4_a_dayis this just a pole ?02:30
LoaderNige : how do i go about saving my settings02:30
dannyZamuro, how do i goto tht02:30
Syche[nige]  : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide          works fine and is he proper Debian way02:30
zamuroGee...02:30
zamurodanny: tht?02:30
mhchai45Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:30
[nige] cheers Syche looking now02:30
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[nige] Loader, as in after a reboot?02:30
Loaderyes02:30
Yeahnudezamuro do u know more?02:30
[nige] i dont think you can without creating an entirely new live cd02:30
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Loaderoh man02:31
dannyzamuro, ?? me confused im new to the whole linux , i no a little terminal but not much02:31
m14hello02:31
[nige] it loads everything into ram I understand and doesnt write back to the disk :)02:31
agunghai boleh knln g?02:31
zamurodanny: What do you mean with tht?02:31
Loaderthat kinda sucks02:31
zamuroThat?02:31
globemaking wifi "ready": iwconfig displays device not ready and it wont connect with iwconfig ... ap any02:31
[nige] Loader, whys that?02:31
m14I would just like to ask you something peculiar.... in english would you write "nicoz's trip" or "nicoz' trip" ?02:31
zamuroOh, ok... Locate in a console: locate mysql_create_system_tables02:32
m14sorry if its not in the topic :)02:32
redhookm14: nicoz's02:32
Loadercuz its going to suck to have to configure my network, settings and files everytime i reboot.02:32
bob_4_a_dayLoader try saving /home/ubuntu   to the usb02:32
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Kindred[nige] , if you are running 64 bit the ati install is a little different to that page btw02:32
m14redhook, sure ? and if it was nicos ? nicos' trip ?02:32
zamuroOr, you simply use mysql_create_system_tables on a console02:32
redhookm14: yep02:32
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dannyzamuro, well earlier u sed i need to go to mysql install dir and then in bin folder ecute..........how do i do that02:33
tuskerninihelp... how do i test if my onboard soundcard is working? when i play a mp3 file, it plays, but nosound. looks like the modules are loaded02:33
[nige] Kindred, thats fine I am only on K7 :)02:33
cozLoader is there a reason you do not want to install ubuntu?02:33
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dannyzamuro, kkk02:33
m14ok redhook thx !!02:33
[nige] Loader, why dont you just install it?02:33
vrlnbob_4_a_day: /etc/passwd is world readable on every breezy system02:33
vrlnby default02:33
Loadercoz, im testing before i actually detached from winblows!02:33
vrlnpasswd- is not though02:33
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cozI see well I have xp, BeOs , mac os and ubuntu02:34
redhookLoader: get a USB pen drive and install it on there02:34
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cozInever go onto mac or BeOs anymore but I do go onto windows occasionally02:34
redguy||workdoes anybody know which network has a support channel for Mozilla Thunderbird02:34
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cozso If you only have one machine either continue with the live cd which is essentially useless or dual boot02:34
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cozLoader, what type of things do you do on your windows machine?02:35
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Badm4nwhat the packaged that i need to install mrtg ?02:35
dannyzamuro, wot is it i need to locate02:35
Badm4nwhat the packaged that i need to install mrtg ? FYI: im using ubuntu 5.1002:35
dooglusis it a known problem with dapper that 'locate' causes a segmentation violation?  or is it just me?02:35
redguy|work!info mrtg02:35
ubotumrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB02:35
redguy|workBadm4n: viola02:36
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FHXHi02:36
=== Badm4n already running apt-get install mrtg
zamurodanny: Nothing... If you use mysl_create_system_tables, nothing need to be located. Didn't remember theres a symlink on /usr/bin02:36
FHXwas wondering if you guys could help, the kubuntu channel is dead.02:36
Badm4nwhat else except snmp cause it already installed02:36
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redhookBadm4n: you need to enable the extra repository02:36
tuskerniniany soundcard experts in the room?02:36
Badm4nwhere is it02:36
dannyzamuro, sorry but i dont get wot u want me to do exactly02:36
Yeahnudeanyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?02:36
redguy|work!tell Badm4n about repos02:36
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redhookYeahnude: sudo su02:37
zamurodanny: On a console, type mysql_create_system_tables02:37
FHXI'm trying to install a Kubuntu theme, and it tells me I need to move a folder here: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but when I enter that in konsole nothing comes up and it won't let me move the folder there. Help?02:37
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BullFirehello02:37
dannyzamuro, kk now i understand02:37
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zamurodanny: That should create mysql table on your database, and so the socket file.02:37
BullFirecan't install initrd-tools02:37
BullFirecan someone help me?02:37
dannyzamuro, i put tht and it says command not found02:38
zamuroBullFire: Tried apt-get install initrd-tools?02:38
redguy|workFHX: *directories* (windows tend to call them *folders*) beginning with a . (a dot) are hidden. Files as well. You have to enable viewing hidden files in konquereor02:38
zamurodanny: the use locate mysql_create_system_tables02:38
BullFireyes, but it can't find02:38
BullFireir02:38
BullFireit02:38
redguy|work!info initrd-tools02:39
ubotuinitrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.78ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB02:39
ompaulFHX, you could try #kubuntu and >> mkdir -p .kde/share/apps/kdm/themes <<02:39
Yeahnuderedhook sudo su in terminal?02:39
redhookYeahnude: yes02:39
Yeahnuderedhook like sudo su fredrik02:39
Yeahnude?02:39
tuskerniniif i use aplay -l i do not get 4/4 subdevices but 3/4, how do i fix it?02:39
[nige] bbs02:39
[nige] needing a rebooot02:39
redhookYeahnude: no, sudo su, switches you to root02:39
dannyzamuro, nothign happened just went bk to root@........02:40
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redguy|workBullFire: hrm, you have a problem with your repos propably02:40
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Yeahnudeso in terminal i login as root and write sudo su ?02:40
FHXompaul: I did, they're dead in there, noa ctivity for the past half an hour. Hm..do i type that in konsole? or in konqueror?02:40
zamuroDamn...02:40
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ompaul!tell Yeahnude about sudpo02:40
ompaulkonsole02:40
alexisisslt02:40
MrSkalmanGet a real OS.. like DOS 6,2202:40
zamurodanny: Did you install from sources?02:40
ompaul!tell Yeahnude about sudo02:40
alexisisy as des fr02:40
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redhookYeahnude: no, doing sudo su as your regular user will switch you to root, root is the super user02:40
BullFireI have ubuntu 5.10 and server install02:40
redguy|workBullFire: since according to what ubotu said initrd-tools are in the main repository02:40
ompaulguys and gals using sudo is the way to do stuff in ubuntu - I hate to rain on your parade but you really don't need root02:41
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Yeahnuderedhook so i login as fredrik in terminal and write sodu su?02:41
Yeahnude:)02:41
dannyzamuro, nope02:41
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redhookYeahnude: yes, sudo == Super User DO02:41
zamuroompaul: That's rite02:41
ompaulzamuro, that may have had something to do with why I went to the bother of typing it :-)02:42
lotusleafompaul, unless you're compiling wine from source, then a root password is required02:42
zamurodanny: Hmmm... Try synaptic and reinstall mysql. That should fix it.02:42
alexisiswera a ubuntus french serveur02:42
Yeahnuderedhook but do it saves if i login to my account fredrik in the ordinary ubuntu then?02:42
ompaullotusleaf, wine - apt-get should sort that out02:42
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lotusleafompaul, unless you have to compile from source to get the latest version (not always available in .deb) or cvs02:43
BullFireredguy: what is the main repository02:43
BullFire?02:43
Yeahnuderedhook i want to change the network things in ubuntu (Graphic) so i can set up my network.02:43
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redguy|work!tell BullFire about nicktab02:43
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redguy|workBullFire: initrd-tools of course02:43
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alexisisare you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom02:43
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Yeahnudehow i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic?=02:44
bob_4_a_dayit is a good idea to have a "root" password set, if and only if it is a strong password.  then it is a good idea.02:44
alexisisare you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom02:44
ompaullotusleaf, well then it would be my contention that wine has a serious problem if it wants an actual password not access to uid0 that is like something you would get on a Microsoft box [/grin] 02:44
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redguy|workbob_4_a_day: still, its a worse idea that having the root password disabled, isn't it?02:45
lotusleafompaul, my point remains ;)02:45
Yeahnudehow i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic? Or i must reboot?02:45
bob_4_a_dayredguy|work no you are wrong.02:45
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ompaulYeahnude, if you have only installed server >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<  if your having graphics problems >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<02:46
redguy|workbob_4_a_day: why?02:46
dannyzamuro, by tht yr saying reinstall mysql-common, u no the exact name i gotta reinstal02:46
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Yeahnudeompaul i installed expert mode02:46
bob_4_a_dayif you have logs from this very night you can read all about it.02:46
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ompaulYeahnude, that would indicate to me that the first one is what you want02:46
BullFirehas anyone used i02:47
Goshawk_is there a command that get a source package from arepo and compile it (so i can run dupload to add to the repo)02:47
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Goshawk_?02:47
redguy|workbob_4_a_day: erm, don't know what to think about what you've just said02:47
ompaul!tell Goshawk_ about compile02:48
ompaulGoshawk_, read the message from the bot02:48
redguy|workbob_4_a_day: if it was me you were talking to of course02:48
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dannyzamuro, ??? u still there02:48
BullFirehas anyone used a highpiont rocketraid 2220 controller in ubuntu ?02:48
s1gnAlcan someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.02:49
Goshawk_ompaul, thanks02:49
bob_4_a_dayin short redguy|work linux systems some times get broken. if you can not login as the user you must use root account.  having a root password makes this easy, while not having one set can force a boot from a live cd to correct the problem.   and for those not familear with linux that can be quite a chore.02:49
ompaulGoshawk_, your welcome02:49
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ompaulbob_4_a_day, wrong!02:49
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zamurodanny: U should look for mysql-server02:49
drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive ?02:49
Badm4nahhh i dont get it02:49
Badm4ni want to install mrtg from remote02:49
bob_4_a_dayompaul read the logs.02:49
ompaul!tell draken about ntfs02:49
dannyzamuro, kk02:50
zamurodanny: Then, maybe synaptic will tell you to reinstall mysql-common as well... Then do so.02:50
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s1gnAlcan someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.02:50
[nige] hello02:50
[nige] still working through that wiki02:50
[nige] Syche, did some of the removal things but it has corrupted my Xorg config02:50
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zamuros1gnAl: Hmmm... There's a simple solution for that: You enable the root password and then you start using gedit as root. That'll solve the permission issue02:51
[nige] i dont have X at the moment, using the lapto now....which is okay stiil :)02:51
ompaulbob_4_a_day, you do not need root - booting a box in single usermode is easy in ubuntu you stop the boot with esc at the grub menu and choose rescue - now you can reset the user password02:51
zamuroI mean... In console.02:51
Yeahnudeompaul I want to use the "system - > admin - > network" or the account manager. But it says that i dont have permission to it. Thats why i want to set Admin to my Fredrik account.02:51
Syche[nige]  : what did you remove?02:51
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[nige] well i was following the wiki you address you gave me02:51
[nige] :)02:51
bob_4_a_dayompaul sulogin can be easily disabled in the gui,  what then ?   and that was the case last night.02:52
[nige] i removed the restricted Modules02:52
Sycheok02:52
shreevatsaHow can I find out what soundcard I have?02:52
foxinesshi, is there tool to help me to orgnize my file and folder like i have two folder with the same name ebook and diff contents ,is there tool help on this filed?02:52
YeahnudeCan i eneble to login with root?02:52
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Sychethats fine02:52
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ompaulYeahnude, in a terminal type this: gksudo network-admin << as the "first user on the box"02:52
s1gnAlzamuro: I had thought about that, but I like the idea of the root account being disabled. They really should include an option in some of these apps to run as sudo, that is my only gripe about this distro so far, other than that I love it!02:52
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dannyzamuro, right i done that now wot do i do?02:52
Sycheit will only affect madwifi etc02:52
garruts1gnAl why don't you just start gedit etc with sudo?02:53
zamurodanny: Did you install both packages?02:53
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Sycheso did you do the  module-assistant02:53
bob_4_a_dayand if sulogin is disabled booting in single puts you at a login prompt....02:53
[nige] hmmm02:53
[nige] it killed something in x for me02:53
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[nige] i might go look at the xorg log02:53
dannyzamuro, common and server if so yes02:53
s1gnAlgarrut: how would I do that? applications->system tools->run as different user?02:53
Goshawk_ompaul, i'm the one about compiling, my problem is different, i've set up a ubuntu like repo, now i uploaded one package and i want to build tha same package for another arch, is there a command to allow this?02:54
drakenhow do i mount a ntfs drive, simple, not auto or any of that junk02:54
ompaulbob_4_a_day, that is the first case of that which  have come across02:54
zamurodanny: Didn't asked you for anything else?02:54
GaainHi all, newb to tis do I need to start a thread or just chat?02:54
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ompaulbob_4_a_day, I have02:54
raphinkjust chat Gaain02:54
Gaainhave problem with ubuntu and web02:54
dannyzamuro, well i just typed in mysql into console and it didnt come up with the socket error02:54
Syche[nige]  : all you have to make sure in X.org is that ati is there in place of fglrx02:55
Sychethat means you use the open source ati driver02:55
garruts1gnAl: yes, or just type 'sudo <command> from a console'02:55
[nige] well like mesa drivers?02:55
Sycheyes02:55
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zamurodanny: Did it appear in a console some like mysql>?02:55
redguy|workbob_4_a_day: hrm, you are talking about an extreme situation, and, at least in ubuntu, you always have the rescue boot mode, so still you can boot and be root without having the root's password enabled. And also always you can boot with init=/bin/bash, so the live cd is not the only option02:55
s1gnAlahh ok crap I didnt even think about that02:55
[nige] well it has been using the mesa drivers02:55
s1gnAlThanks!02:55
dannyzamuro, yea02:55
[nige] i want the ati ones to be installed02:55
[nige] :)02:55
ompaulGoshawk_, the right place to ask that is #ubuntu-motu there are different switches in gcc for each arch02:55
garrutnp :)02:55
zamurodanny: Then you're done02:55
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dannyzamuro, thanks02:56
foxinesss1gnAl, i agree with your idea on many area like browser /var/backup it must be root i think this will confuse the user new to linux or ubuntu02:56
zamuroNo problem02:56
SycheThen continue with the steps02:56
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drakencn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something02:56
Sycheyyou can do it on the command line itself02:56
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YeahnudeFor using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write?02:57
GaainQuestion: Am trying to get into Linux as Ive has enough of the other side, the IT dude at work pointed me towards Ubuntu. I have installed it onto a spare machine but it wont connect to web. I have set the "network settings" to direct internet connection, If I type in my routers ip it will allow me to enter it and it also spots my windows network and I can share files across it. It just will not connect to web. When its "lan'd" it shows up in my router with 02:57
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s1gnAlfoxiness: I like the idea of root being disabled, BUT, they really should include a menu or something to enable root permissions temporarily for applications that need them(editing files for example)02:58
drakencn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something02:58
shreevatsaI know this sounds stupid, but is it possible to find out what soundcard I have?02:58
garrutGaain try going to 82.211.81.13002:58
redhookshreevatsa: lspci02:58
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foxinesss1gnAl, indeed, not every one know about nautilus02:59
foxiness than how he will do this on easy way02:59
Sychelspci |gp audio02:59
[nige] okay02:59
Sycheoops02:59
[nige] i have X running again02:59
YeahnudeFor using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write?? I want to use ALL the system tools02:59
shreevatsaredhook: Is this a soundcard? "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller"02:59
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s1gnAldraken: I believe you can mount an NTFS share by using mount -t ntfs /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/path, check the man pages03:00
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redguy|work!ntfs03:00
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK03:00
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foxinesss1gnAl, sure it good to disable but must be something around this like create vm or virtual filesystem on space of user i dont know but must have an idea for this03:01
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s1gnAlfoxiness: lol, I just got a crash course in nautilus myself, I am a longtime Gentoo user and things are a little different here03:01
Syche[nige]  : And once you get to sudo module-assistant a-i fglrx, dont follow the next step. Instead change ati to fglrx in your xorg.conf03:01
s1gnAlafk, coffee time03:01
drakenhow do i check all my hdds again03:02
drakenlike there space and names03:02
[nige] hmm okay03:02
[nige] i will do that03:02
[nige] :)03:02
[nige] running through a few things now03:02
foxinessdraken, df -h03:02
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drakenhow do i check all my hdds again, like there info03:02
[nige] Syche, do i need to recopile the kernel for this03:02
Sycheno03:02
[nige] i have never before done that03:02
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foxinessdraken, or form menu system mintor03:03
Sychedon't worry about that03:03
drakenerr fox, it doesnt have my ntfs drive there ?03:03
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CodyDHHi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?03:03
Gaaingarrut: It the browser title bar read "Canonical Ltd" , loading bar gets to about 1/3 across and thats it. No other software running but XP, Mirc and Ubuntu and Mozilla. Strating to point towards DNS settings is it?03:03
foxinessdraken, fdisk -l03:04
[nige] oh03:04
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redguy|workGaain: seems so03:04
rodhi03:04
[nige] you might know this, how do I set the resolution to be used in my shell screen?03:04
Syche[nige]  : I'll be gone for an hour or so. Send me a PM about what hapened ;)03:04
[nige] no worries03:04
[nige] :)03:04
rodusing dapper i  get this error03:04
rodFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/openoffice.org2-core_2.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch03:04
rodE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:04
[nige] cheers for ththat03:04
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rodhow to get around this, please?03:05
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GaainMy other concern is why is the Unbuntu machine spoof my other machines host name althoug it has a different IP and mac03:05
redguy|work!tell rod about pastebin03:05
drakenomfg03:05
[nige] rod you do and apt-get -f package...that will force the install03:05
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drakeni cant take this no root shit03:05
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CodyDHdraken: so enable the root account03:05
[nige] but you probably dont want to do that, if there is mismatch with the md # it could be a damaged package03:05
drakenhow ?03:05
shreevatsadraken: sudo passwd03:05
CodyDHdraken: sudo passwd03:05
s1gnAldraken: it takes some getting used to03:05
drakenno, i want to login with root03:05
Seveasdraken, then enable the root account and let sudo ask for the root password...03:05
drakennot sudo03:05
s1gnAlI had the same gripes03:05
Seveas!tell draken about root03:06
shreevatsadraken: Do it once03:06
drakenno03:06
Seveasread that wikipage, it tells it all03:06
s1gnAlbut I think it is actually better without it03:06
drakeni cant do anything in the gui03:06
drakeneverywhere i go, no root03:06
shreevatsadraken: You only have to do "sudo passwd" once to enable a root account03:06
drakenshreevatsa: , i want to LOGIN with root03:06
s1gnAldraken: there is a simple solution to that, I just ran into that same issue03:06
drakenwat slgn?03:06
redguy|workdraken: login with root and use a gui? eek!03:06
shreevatsa*shudder*03:06
rod[nige] , no - while usign -f it will still check the md5 sum which is incorrect and so the install fails03:07
rodHow to install ubuntu-desktop, but without openoffice then?03:07
GaainWhats the LINUX cmd for ipconfig please?03:07
[nige] hmmm03:07
SeveasGaain, ifconfig03:07
mjrifconfig03:07
[nige] i am not sure03:07
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[nige] try the man page on apt-get03:07
[nige] :)03:07
s1gnAldraken: open a console, and sudo the app you want to run from there, for example, for file browser with root permissions, type sudo nautilus&03:07
Gaainta03:07
drakenwtf03:07
s1gnAlor you can go to applications->system tools->run as different user03:08
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Seveasfoxiness, because you are configuring interfaces, not the IP protocol...03:08
redguy|workrod: maybe it was downloaded incorrectly, look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the openoffice .deb, delete it and apt-get it again03:08
[nige] try apt-get install --force-yes package i guess03:08
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YeahnudeSeveas have u time to help my problem. I want to use system tools with my account admin03:09
foxinessSeveas, thank you to let me know about it03:09
redguy|workrod: or you could do an apt-get clean perhaps, but this will wipe all archives from /var/cache/apt/archives03:09
[nige] sorry its apt-get install package --force-yes03:09
drakens1gnAl:03:09
CodyDHHow do I disable mouse gestures in FireFox?03:09
[nige] although it could render your system useless03:09
redguy|workYeahnude: is the user in the 'admin' group?03:09
shreevatsaWhy is it so impossible to get sound to work properly on Linux?03:09
drakennow it tunes i cant take shit off my ntfs drive03:09
drakenaccess denied03:09
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rodok redguy|work ill try... but i must say it downloads the package everytime, is doesnt seem to use the cached one... Will try though, gimme a sec ;)03:09
CodyDHdraken: The best solution is to copy the stuff to your Linux partition03:09
ompaulshreevatsa, is it not, as a matter of interest what kind of sound card are you using03:10
CodyDHdraken: So your applications can work with the files properly.03:10
redguy|workdraken: why won't you rad the stuff we ask you to read?03:10
redguy|work!tell draken about ntfs03:10
s1gnAldraken: is it a protected volume? i.e., are you trying to copy from an unshared folder?03:10
shreevatsaompaul: lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"03:10
drakenno03:10
drakenits fine i got that working03:10
gunfusI managed to install ubuntu but all I ahve is the console login03:10
drakenbut dont u find it fucking dumb if u cant do anything ?03:10
drakenwithout sudo03:10
drakeni mean god03:10
gunfusno graphical interface.03:10
CodyDHdraken: So enable su!03:11
CodyDHdraken: There is a solution, if you're yelling you wont' find it.03:11
Malachidraken: Please, refrain from the language.03:11
s1gnAldraken: I agree, but I also like the idea of root being disabled, just a different way of doing things03:11
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YeahnudeBest way to use system tools s1gnAl03:11
Yeahnude?03:11
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shreevatsaompaul: Should I use esd, alsa, arts, oss, .... what?03:11
s1gnAlthis is undoubtedly the best distro I have used by far, and I have been linuxing since '9703:11
nandrohow do I get folders on the network to show up in apps like bit torrent?  I can only see local folders when it asks me where I want to save03:12
redguy|workdraken: I can do lot's of things without sudo, maybe there's something wrong with your install03:12
s1gnAlyeahnude: what are you trying to do?03:12
gunfushwo do I get the graph interfance03:12
gunfusand where all my applications?03:12
Yeahnudes1gnAl use all of my system tools03:12
Sycheshreevatsa: my laptop has the same chipset and sound works fine here03:12
gunfusI don't get ubuntus03:12
ompaulshreevatsa, alsa is always good, that card uses the i810_audio and ac97_codec -modules03:12
Yeahnudes1gnAl its said child 1 terminated03:12
Sychebothe out of the box and my compiled kernel too03:12
shreevatsaompaul: what does that mean? Do I have to do something and get i810_audio and ac97_codec modules?03:13
drakenhow do i get into network settings via sudo ?03:13
s1gnAlyeahnude: not sure, what command are you attempting to run?03:13
redguy|workgunfus: any error messages during the install?03:13
Yeahnudes1gnAl in the ubuuntu i want to run everything in system_tool03:13
Yeahnudes03:13
redguy|workgunfus: you have to give us some information if you want to get help03:13
s1gnAldraken: it should prompt you03:13
Yeahnudebut it saids i have no permission to htat03:13
ompaulshreevatsa, the problem with audio is the closed nature of the cards, both of those modules need to be loaded it appears for that card to be happy03:13
drakens1gnAl: , it asks fr root passowrd, i give it,  nothing unlocks03:13
redguy|workgunfus: something more informative than 'hwo do I get the graph interfance'03:14
s1gnAldraken: it will be your normal user password03:14
drakeni know03:14
shreevatsaompaul: I didn't know that... how do I load those modules? (or check if they are loaded already)?03:14
drakenit accepts the passwor03:14
drakenbut it doesnt work03:14
drakenffs03:14
Yeahnudes1gnAl do u know?03:14
Yeahnudedraken we have same problem03:14
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gunfusredguy|work, well I had to skip some steps of the install because it will always hang installing GRUB, so I skipped that and install LILO03:14
drakeni know Yeahnude , and they not listening to us03:15
drakenits like root isnt evne admin03:15
ompaulshreevatsa, lsmod03:15
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s1gnAldraken/yeahnude: did you guys enable the root account by using sudo passwd root?03:15
Sycheshreevatsa: lsmod |grep snd03:15
gunfusredguy|work, it is possible that I didn't install all the rest of the apps but I didn't know how to install them and install LILO instead of GRUB03:15
drakens1gnAl: , i tried, didnt change passwd03:16
drakenits still my user password03:16
Yeahnudes1gnAl in terminal (logged as root) i have changed my password TWICE03:16
gunfusredguy|work, the install process would always go automaticly into isntalling GRUB after installing the other apps03:16
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shreevatsaompaul: There are some lines that say "snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x0", etc. Does this mean those modules are loaded?03:16
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redguy|workgunfus: ok03:16
Yeahnudes1gnAl i want to change many things in the system-tools but i dont have permission i want to high my rank att account admin OR log in ass root but its not working03:16
redguy|workgunfus: sec03:17
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gunfusredguy|work, okay03:17
drakenya same nude03:17
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s1gnAlyeahnude/draken: ok, that is part of the problem. I read in the wiki yesterday that if you DO enable the root account, it will break many of the gui tools. Let me find the command to disable the root account, brb.03:17
drakenok thanks03:17
ompaulshreevatsa, well the second one might do the same job, try loading >>alsamixer<< and see if any of the channels are muted03:17
YeahnudeThx03:17
Yeahnude:D03:17
shreevatsaompaul: Actually, sound *is* working for me, except that I sometimes have to ask mplayer to use a different -ao... The problem I'm having right now is that it's not "recognizing" my Line In03:18
hyakuheiwhats the quick way to auto-configure X ?03:18
Yeahnudes1gnAl i love you if u find it03:18
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hyakuheiie, i want to set up some defaults for a graphics card im swapping in03:18
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shreevatsaThat is, I've connected a cassette player to my computer's Line In, and it plays through the speakers, but I can't record it in Audacity03:19
rodohhh pls... how to install Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager03:19
rod    installed.03:19
nandrois there a way to make programs see a network folder the same as a local folder?03:19
s1gnAldraken/yeahnude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f8059403:19
s1gnAlthat whole page is about the use of sudo under ubuntu03:19
ompaulshreevatsa, well looka to see if it is muted03:20
redguy|workgunfus: ok, are you logged in?03:20
shreevatsaompaul: And I know I've connected it to Line In, not "Mic" or something, because muting "Line" in alsamixer mutes it03:20
shreevatsaompaul: No, it plays through the speakers fine03:20
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gunfusredguy|work, yes I am logged into a normal console03:20
shreevatsaompaul: I can hear it, change the volume (it's called just "Line" in alsamixer), but I can't record it03:20
GaainDoes anyone know the sudo password for ubuntu please "passwd" doesnt seem to work?03:20
Gaainim trying to access netwrok admin03:21
redguy|workgunfus: ok, what does dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop say?03:21
ompaulshreevatsa, I have no other thoughts on it03:21
hyakuheiGaain: the userpassword03:21
gunfuslet em check03:21
delmonicohi. what packages contains the system configuration applications that Ubuntus GNOME desktop uses? I would like to have them on a kde-ubuntu...03:21
s1gnAlGaain: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:21
giggseyGaain: isn't it your password (the user)03:21
hyakuheiGaain: for the user calling sudo03:21
redguy|workgunfus: don't paste it in here, just see if it says that i's installed03:21
Gaainhang on ill try it03:21
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shreevatsaompaul: Ok, thanks for being helpful, then.... Do you know any programs for recording audio, BTW?03:22
s1gnAlafk, more coffee03:22
gunfusredguy|work, okay.. thanks for the reminder.. I keep forgeting there is paste.bin03:22
redguy|workgunfus: I'm assuming that you were installing ubuntu, not kubuntu, xubuntu03:22
gunfusright.. it was ubuntu03:22
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Gaainhyak. giggsey and signal thanks03:22
redguy|workgunfus: well? did it say that ubuntu-desktop is not installed?03:23
_drakenerr03:23
_drakencan i get that link again03:23
gunfussorry the PC was booting03:23
redguy|workgunfus: or did it display lots of stuff03:23
_drakenmy other linux program just cut in, where the screen starts corrupting and them it freezes sig03:23
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gunfus dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop303:23
ompaulshreevatsa, I use my mic in audacity when I want to send complete messages to people like "ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu" and such like :-) if the volume was turned right down on the player would it work with the mic? just another idea - though the power might be too much but hey you never know03:23
s1gnAlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f8059403:24
ompaulshreevatsa, it could blow the card but that is a chance you have to consider03:24
redguy|workgunfus: dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop03:24
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gunfusredguy|work, the package is not installed and there is no information03:24
shreevatsaompaul: OMG, I just realised I'm the most stupid person ever... The input volume was turned down!03:24
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s1gnAlDOH!03:24
shreevatsaompaul: I've spent more than three hours trying to "fix" it :(03:24
s1gnAlshree: lol, it happens man03:25
shreevatsaompaul: Stupid me... thanks!03:25
redguy|workgunfus: ok, we're getting somewhere03:25
gunfusokay03:25
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redguy|workgunfus: what about dpkg -s ubuntu-base ?03:25
ompaulshreevatsa, don't be so hard on yourself, leave that job for me }:->03:25
Yeahnudes1gnAl i typed in terminal (logged as root) sudo passwd root03:25
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Yeahnudebut when i log in the begininng of ubutu its said. u cant login with root03:25
shreevatsaompaul: Ok, go ahead then :) I've wasted enough of your time to justify that ;)03:25
s1gnAlyeahnude: are you trying to login to the desktop via root?03:26
[nige] Syche, it has updated it03:26
gunfusredguy|work, same thing03:26
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[nige] Syche, it seems to be okay now, just have to reconfigure my monitors :)03:26
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ompaulYeahnude, question have you actually got any worthwhile data on that box, would you consider backing it up reinstalling and working from there?03:26
|Lestat|is thee any way i can diable modules from starting at boot up? and will that eat less ram if i do remove some? :)03:26
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ompaulYeahnude, with no messing with root passwords :-)03:26
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|Lestat|er disable modules03:26
shreevatsaompaul: Anyway, you're saying that alsa has no problems at all?03:26
s1gnAlI agree with ompaul03:27
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redguy|workgunfus, ok then. Do you have the install CD in your CDROM drive?03:27
sunsunhi03:27
s1gnAlmay solve a lot of your problems03:27
sunsunnalioth, are you here?03:27
gunfusredguy|work, no.. but I am putting in right now03:27
gunfusredguy|work, done03:27
redguy|workgunfus: if not, put it in, and run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop03:27
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sunsuni have reinstalled my win  partition and its overidden grubloader 1.5, how do i get the grubloader to go??>03:27
redguy|workgunfus: it will ask for your password and should install the missing stuff03:28
visik7sunsun: livecd->grub03:28
gunfusredguy|work, okay.. let me try that03:28
ompaulshreevatsa, no, it is not that alsa is without fault, it is that it is good, and what is even more fun sound will always be a pain as long as sound card makers insist on making their work closed03:28
napstar567hey guys, can any one tell me why my: sudo cvs is not responding right03:28
sunsunviskik7, there is an installer?03:28
|Lestat|can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)03:28
sunsunvisik7, or do i do a command on the shell?03:28
ompaulSusana, the man is ZZZZZ03:28
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s1gnAlnapstar: what command are you trying to execute and what is the error message you are getting?03:28
visik7sunsun: run grub from a shell03:29
sunsunvisik7, what is the command??03:29
napstar567cvs: command not found03:29
gunfusredguy|work, okay.. well it is trying to install it.. ohh by the way.. I didn't need the CD I configure it to get it from FTP03:29
sunsunvisik7, just run grubloader 1.5???03:29
MarcNnapstar567: seems like you need to install cvs...03:29
s1gnAlnapstar: dumb question, but is it installed?03:29
binarydigitnapstar567: you need to install it before you can use it03:29
gunfusredguy|work, that shouldn't matter03:29
gunfusredguy|work, either way it should work03:29
napstar567yea03:29
redguy|workgunfus: but some of the stuff is on the CD, why waste the bandwidth?03:30
Yeahnudes1gnAl yes:P03:30
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Yeahnudes1gnAl how i login via root?03:30
gunfusredguy|work, true.. but I want to get the latest stuff03:30
Yeahnudes1gnAl i want to use system tools03:30
s1gnAlnapstar: check your $PATH variable and make sure the directory CVS is located in is there03:30
napstar567yea i did install it03:30
s1gnAlyeahnude: read the wiki, it's in there03:30
napstar567i will try to reinstall it03:30
napstar567thanks03:30
binarydigitnapstar567: how did you install it03:31
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visik7sunsun: run grub03:31
Yeahnudes1gnAl whats its call?03:31
visik7sunsun: fron a shell03:31
sunsunvisik7, thanks this will make it permanent?03:31
sunsunhmm...03:31
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s1gnAlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, make note of it, that is the last time I am pasting it03:31
thoegerAny linux-ppc users in here?03:31
visik7sunsun: run grub - it will open a shell03:31
visik7then install grub telling the boot partition and other parameters03:32
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sunsunvisik7, now i am loading into the live cd... and going through the process03:32
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Yeahnudes1gnAl im in there, and i have eneble it , but how i login to the desktop ? is the last qauest03:32
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redguy|workgunfus: sure, but most of the stuff in the repositories is the same than the stuff on the CD, ubuntu people put newerversions only if there is a security issue with the older versions03:32
visik7sunsun: run the command "grub" from the live cd03:32
napstar567sudo apt-get install cvs03:32
sunsuni think there is a command to get the shell straight away, do you know what that could be>03:32
s1gnAlyeahnude: read the page! it's at the bottom on how to enable it03:32
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thoegerBeen trying to make firefox or opera running java but with no luck03:32
sunsunvisik7, thks03:32
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thoegerAnyone got in working?03:33
gunfusredguy|work, okay.. well should I cancel it?03:33
s1gnAlthoeger: did you install the JVM?03:33
thoegerYup03:33
redguy|workgunfus: no, /me just being informative today :-)03:33
binarydigitthoeger: did you follow the instructions on the wiki03:33
thoegers1gnAl : IBM java 1.4.2 and 1.5 beta03:33
s1gnAlthoeger: any reason why you didn't use Sun's JVM?03:34
sunsunvisik7, it does not work... what is the command?03:34
thoegerbinarydigit:  Yeah, running java -showversion runs fine03:34
ZambbaI downloaded Ubuntu for PPC and it doesn't boot in my PowerMac. What's wrong?03:34
thoegerI'm on ppc03:34
sunsunhey guys, what is the command to get grubloader 1.5 again?03:34
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s1gnAlahh ok03:34
gunfusredguy|work, okay thanks03:34
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binarydigitthoeger: did you copy the plugins into the firefox plugin folder03:34
binarydigitlike the wiki said03:34
visik7sunsun: the command is grub and a grub-shell should open03:34
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drakenim using KDE ppl, and sometimes out of no where, the screen starts to corrupt and go green,yellow,brown and then everything freezes but mouse03:35
drakenthen i got to reboot, but that be video drivers ?03:35
thoegerbinarydigit: Yup. Makes firefox crash everytime I try testing it on javatester.org and sun's test page.03:35
Yeahnude!tell kubuntu03:35
s1gnAldraken: did you have any previous hardware issues?03:35
redguy|workdraken: or the video hardware?03:35
drakennope03:35
drakenworking all fine in windows03:35
sunsunvisik7, i am in terminal... on ubuntulive and the grub shell isnt opening03:36
s1gnAldraken: what card do you have?03:36
sunsunvisik7, so what should i do03:36
visik7sunsun: oh03:36
drakengeforce 6600gt03:36
visik7sunsun: mount the partition03:36
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thoegers1gnAl & binarydigit: Might it be a problem that I run a home-compiled FF 1.5 instead of the 1.0.7 in the breezy repos?03:36
s1gnAldraken: pci-e or AGP?03:36
visik7sunsun: and chroot in it03:36
drakenagp03:36
YeahnudeWhat is kubuntu?`03:37
s1gnAlthoeger: could be, try a ubuntu built binary03:37
binarydigitthoeger: i feel like it may have something to do with you not using suns JVM03:37
Yeahnude!tell kubuntu03:37
Mabus06how do I get two monitos to work with m radeon x700 pro03:37
binarydigitbut i dont know03:37
drakenso s1gnAl , could it be drivers? im downloading latest atm03:37
Riddell!kubuntu03:37
ubotumethinks kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:37
s1gnAldrakenL: you can try that, if it ends up not being that, Im not sure really03:37
visik7sunsun: do you got it ?03:37
sunsunvisik7, what is the command to mount the partition?03:38
drakenk s1gnAl03:38
thoegerbinartydigit: there are reports on a working ibm/firefox thingie... Just hoped it would work.03:38
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visik7sunsun:  -.-03:38
visik7sunsun: mount ???03:38
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sunsunthen >03:38
sunsun??03:38
sunsunhow to schroot>03:38
Yeahnudes1gnAl Enabling graphical root login - THen i must USE the Adminstration BUT i CANT if I dont are logged as ROOT03:38
visik7sunsun: mount -t <filesystem> <partition> <mountpoint>03:39
visik7sunsun: for a better explaination man mount03:39
s1gnAlyeahnude: I am out of options, I would say your best bet would be to re-install at this point03:39
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Yeahnudes1gnAl Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) < How CAN i do that without be logged root03:39
Yeahnudes1gnAl why reinstall+03:39
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thoegers1gnAl, binarydigit : thanx for the support anyway :-)03:40
s1gnAlbecause it will solve your problems unless you are willing to dig into it and fix it03:40
binarydigitno prob03:40
s1gnAlanytime thoeger03:40
sunsunvisik7, i dont know the filesystem's name..03:40
sunsunyikes03:40
visik7sunsun: the filesystem type03:40
sunsunhow do i find that03:40
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visik7ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs, and so on03:40
Kindred4.10?..03:40
sunsunohh... yes. hmm, i think its ext303:41
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sunsuni dont know the partition name...  for hoary03:41
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thoegeranother thing to the house, I've been asking this before... Anyone got an idea why gdesklets and stellarium crash my Xorg? It's not like it's one single desklet; just wiped my .gdesklets dir and it still kills it running gdesklets from the main menu03:41
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Yeahnudes1gnAl but cant you only say HOW i log in via root to dekstop ..? Or how i Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) do that without permission in dekstop?03:41
omfgarg03:41
omfgdraken here, it crashed again03:42
s1gnAlyeahnude: search the forums, I don't know03:42
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omfgu see s1gnAl, draken here, it crashed again03:42
dsp2who can help me with just a little problem here?03:42
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omfgi thought linux was ment to be stable erf03:42
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thoegerwhatta ya mean omfg ?03:43
s1gnAlomfg: not sure man03:43
omfgthoeger, ill be sitting in the GUI, then shit for start corrupting, thene verything freezes03:43
omfgmouse can move, but everything is stuck03:44
Gaaincan any one through me a random ip address for a website please not the name (bbc or something) if trying to sus wether it is a dns setting not allowing my www.google.com homepage to connect. Thanks03:44
thoegeromfg, that's even *very* stable I'd say... ;-)03:44
[nige] omfg,  have you checked your messages03:44
s1gnAlomfg: are you overclocking?03:44
[nige] omfg, as in /var/log/messages?03:44
omfgerr let me look03:45
omfgs1gnAl no03:45
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[nige] that should give you some clue as whats going on :)03:45
kestaswhat do you mean shit for start corrupting?03:45
kestasand does it crash on windows?03:45
s1gnAlI want to beautify my gnome desktop, anyone got any theme/wallpaper suggestions?03:46
omfgmy windows is 100503:46
omfgmy windows is 100%03:46
omfg[nige] 03:46
omfgDec 30 16:38:03 Draken kernel: [  777.667153]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.03:46
thoegers1gnAl, What kinda themes du you like?03:46
omfgis last thing03:46
[nige] hmm03:46
[nige] okay03:46
[nige] so it locks up03:46
s1gnAlthoeger: just looking for something cool, I like sci-fi, nature, and computer stuff03:46
[nige] you restart and it seems okay03:46
[nige] ?03:46
omfgya03:46
omfgthen it might work for 20mins no prob then mess up03:47
omfgmight mess up as i get in03:47
[nige] hmm03:47
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[nige] check your cpu temp03:47
[nige] or even your hdd03:47
thoegers1gnAl, my fav icon theme is nuoveXT, dunno if thats anything for you03:47
[nige] sounds more like a hardware error to me than a linux on03:47
[nige] e03:47
omfgall that stuff is fine03:47
omfgi been running windows for months on this pc03:47
s1gnAlthoeger: where can I find it?03:47
[nige] so what are you been doing on the pc?03:47
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thoegerthat and digital-perfaction GTK and Met makes my evolution look like...03:47
[nige] do you have any weird usb devices attached to it03:47
CodyDHHi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?03:47
[nige] like usb network cables?03:47
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omfgi have psp usb cable03:48
omfgbut its not plugged into psp03:48
SeveasCodyDH, powernowd or cpufreq03:48
thoegers1gnAl, gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org are your friends... :)03:48
[nige] CodyDH,  sounds like its wants to save power longer batteries03:48
[nige] hmm03:48
s1gnAlIm there now ;)03:48
[nige] weird psp thin aye...03:48
CodyDHSeveas: Which does it use by default?03:48
Seveasdepends on the cpu :)03:48
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[nige] does did it crash last time it was plugged in03:48
[nige] or was it crashing prior it being plugged in03:49
CodyDHSeveas: Pentium M 2nd gen03:49
st3fwhat wm do u guys use?03:49
omfgits always been plugged in03:49
CodyDHst3f: gnome03:49
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gunfusredguy|work, after downlading everything03:49
[nige] okay03:49
SeveasCodyDH, cpufreq it is03:49
omfgim downloading my motherboard+gfx card drivers for linux now03:49
omfgmaybe that will fix03:49
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[nige] plug it in now03:49
gunfusredguy|work, will it change my init to 503:49
gunfus?03:49
kane77hi, can anyone help me to set up program so it would start automatically on system startup....03:49
[nige] if it does i would say its probably the usb thingo03:49
CodyDHSeveas: OK... Thanks (I'm now using Fedora and want to implement that as well :))03:49
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[nige] i know it  dided on a few of my usb devices03:49
[nige] like usb network cards etc.03:49
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YeahnudeSeveas do u know how i login or change so i can login to the desktiop with root.. i have (sudo passwd root) already03:50
thoegerkane77, go to desktop preferences -> sessions03:50
erUSULkane77, whaen you log in gnome or during init03:50
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kane77thoeger: thanx...03:50
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thoegerkane77, anytime ...03:50
cdtbudif i've got mysql4.1 what the apt-get command to upgrade it to 5?03:51
erUSULYeahnude, not a wise idea. use root only when indispensable. login as root is not a good idea03:51
kane77thoeger: I think I can go on from here...03:51
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thoegerkane77, yup, it's pretty self-explaining from there03:51
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GaainRight. My Ubuntu connection will resolve IP addresses such as 212.58.224.35 (bbc.co.uk), but not www.bbc.co.uk. I can browse my windows network and access my router (DLINK_) through the network . ANyone nknow what I need to change to get Ubuntu to resolve the typed addresses at the moment everything is set to AUTO, DHCP and such??????03:52
kestascdtbud, well if the current version of ubuntu doesn't have that version then you'll have to wait, or compile it yourself03:52
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Falstiusis there a tool for adding and removing scripts from runlevels?  The admin->services app is pretty worthless.03:52
cdtbudah thanks hadnt thought of that03:52
gazHang on mu IRC has juct connected03:52
kestasFalstius, you could always do it manually03:53
YeahnudeerUSUL i want to login as root03:53
gazand im now reading my other login as gaain03:53
erUSULYeahnude, why?03:53
CodyDHSeveas: another question... what would be a command or program I could run that would produce enough activity to full throttle the CPU?03:53
YeahnudeerUSUL change system tools03:53
redguy|workFalstius: update-rc.d03:53
Falstiuskestas: yes, but then I have to manually check dependencies too.  And check each run level, yada yada.  I'd like a chkconfig analog.03:53
erUSULYeahnude, ??03:53
kestasCodyDH, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null03:53
Seveaskestas, you read my mind :)03:54
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CodyDHAnd would a Control-C stop that?03:54
kestasSeveas, :)03:54
SeveasCodyDH, yes03:54
gazStill wont connect to any www.XXXX>com though03:54
CodyDHStrange03:54
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CodyDHI have a little gnome applet that tells me what speed my CPU is at... it says 600MHz... and I can't get that to change. And as far as I can tell I'm running cpufreqd.03:54
YeahnudeerUSUL adminstrativ tools03:54
thoegerbtw; at gnome login i get a warning that my $HOME/.dmrc has wrong permission and ownership... I changed it once but changed it back to 644.03:54
CodyDHBut then again, it's not really your guys' job to support Fedora, is it :)03:54
Seveasgaz, the built-in porn filter will not allow xxx.com ;)03:55
gazlol,03:55
thoegerCant get rid of the warning though... Any idea how I can ?03:55
SeveasCodyDH, correct, try #fedora :)03:55
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gazwww.anything.com03:55
jk-does anyone have a file: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gdk-pixbuf-2.0.pc ??03:55
CodyDHThanks for the help, guys!03:55
erUSULYeahnude, you can do this with sudo (sudo -i)03:55
omfgwats a text editor in linux called ?03:55
thoegeromfg: a text editor....03:55
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[nige] vi03:56
[nige] vim03:56
omfggedit doesnt work03:56
[nige] nano03:56
erUSULomfg, emacs ;)03:56
omfgta03:56
[nige] pico03:56
[nige] :)03:56
Belutzlol03:56
Stew_Lappyjoe is a good one03:56
thoegernano03:56
thoegernedit03:56
thoegeromfg: whats the prob w gedit?03:56
Belutznotepad.exe with wine :p03:56
Belutzj/k03:56
Falstiusredguy|work: thanks.  That is what I was looking for.03:57
thoegeromfg: Gobby for collaborative editing03:57
omfgthoeger, i type gedit, nothing happens03:57
omfg:03:57
thoegeromfg: strange03:57
Seveas!editor03:58
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Seveas03:58
visik7is there a backport of kde 3.5 for breezy somewhere ?03:58
Seveas!you broken03:58
ubotuEep! *crash*03:58
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Seveas!kde3503:58
ubotuSeveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:58
thoeger!editor03:58
Seveasdang03:58
Seveasvisik7, see kubuntu.org03:58
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redguy|workvisik7: http://tinyurl.com/dlrf903:58
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redguy|workvisik7: see the topic in #kubuntu03:59
visik7ook03:59
visik7thanks03:59
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gunfusredguy|work, will it change my init to 504:00
gunfusredguy|work, after downlading everything04:00
redguy|workgunfus: hrm, the best bet would be a reboot04:00
oddfluxI'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?04:00
thoegers1gnAl: still there?04:00
redguy|workgunfus: you should be in runlevel 5 anyway04:01
revcan someone tell me how to setup sata disks? I do not get any block device04:01
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Kindredsometimes my programs just close without warning or error, happens maybe two or three times a day (12 hrs use though.. :) is this just me?04:02
YeahnudeerUSUL what can i do with sudo -i then?04:02
Joe444444444hey guys, does anyone know how i can read a windows partition through ubuntu?04:02
gunfusokay04:02
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erUSULYeahnude, you get a root shell04:03
oddfluxJoe444444444 uh what?04:03
oddfluxI'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?04:03
erUSULubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowdrives04:03
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thoegerJoe444444444: you should be able to just mount it and read it I think...04:03
GaainNo one able to help with DNS issue then! :-(04:03
erUSULubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowsdrives04:03
erUSULrev, what controler and disk?04:03
thoegerKindred: No it's not just you....04:04
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oddfluxubotu,tell oddflux about proxyservers04:04
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reverUSUL: one maxtor disk and SiI 311204:04
oddfluxubotu,tell oddflux about proxy servers04:04
Joe444444444ok, im running 5.10 64 bit, but it isnt automatically set , like it tells me i dont have premission or something04:04
oddfluxgrr.'04:04
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erUSULrev, do not you get /dev/sda block device?04:05
Joe444444444and ubuntu can read ntfs?04:05
Kindredthoeger, yeah, hmm.. oh well.04:05
redguy|work!tell Joe444444444 about ntfs04:05
reverUSUL: yup, not device ...but i've got /dev/dm/0 1 and 2... but I dont know what that is04:05
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mjrread sure, write no04:06
Joe4ty, and fat 32?04:06
rob_poddflux:  What purpose do you have in mind for running a proxy server?04:06
erUSULrev, this are block devices handled with lvm. i do not use lvm so i do not know...04:06
reverUSUL: me neither, but they are there :)04:06
oddfluxrob_p, does that matter? is it in someway relevant?04:07
visik7apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings is enough to get kubuntu on ubuntu ?04:07
rob_poddflux:  Yes.  Depending on what you are trying to accomplish will determine what advice one offers you...04:08
reverUSUL: sata_sil and libata are loaded http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637604:08
[nige] fnite all04:08
[nige] gnite rather04:08
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rob_poddflux:  For instance, if you're looking for an anonymizing proxy, privoxy is good.  If you need a full-blown caching proxy to serve multiple clients, you might want to use squid... stuff like that.04:09
oddfluxi see, proxys are used for anonmity and this is for aasmall network04:09
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erUSULrev, use /dev/dm/* if /dev/sd* are not aviable04:10
guillaumehey guys04:10
oddfluxforgive me.. BitchX sucks.04:10
rob_poddflux:  Is caching important to you?04:10
oddfluxfbsd.04:10
oddfluxbrb04:10
guillaumegotta prob wit firefox 1.504:10
oddfluxyeah, i'll get squid..04:10
guillaumedoesn't launch04:10
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EpsilonI need some help!04:11
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reverUSUL: I get 3 devices in /dev/dm ...that disk is unformatted...which one should I use? and why do I not get /dev/sd* ?04:11
greenpenguin13Epsilon: this is the right place04:11
rob_poddflux:  For squid, the trickiest part is setting up the ACL(s).  Other than that, it comes up running pretty easily.04:11
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Zoohousehello everyone04:12
EpsilonYes I know04:12
oddfluxThere is documentation on it isnt there04:12
EpsilonMy mp3 player is wierd04:12
EpsilonI used to have Windows04:12
Epsilonand I put music on04:12
Epsilonnow when I plug it into linux04:12
Epsilonthe music doesn't show up04:12
erUSULrev, i do not know :(. You should get the /dev/sd* devices. do you see something in the dmesg?04:12
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rob_poddflux:  Yes.  Google will turn up numerous how-to type docs.  However, the config file for squid is documented quit will (maybe too well) :-)04:13
erUSULEpsilon, creative?04:13
reverUSUL: only these lines http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637604:13
rob_poddflux:  Man, I can't type today!04:13
Epsilonno04:13
EpsilonSanDisc04:13
foxinessis there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch type04:13
EpsilonSanDisk*04:14
oddfluxThere is documentation on it isnt the:)04:14
oddfluxuh04:14
oddfluxi hate bitchx04:14
oddfluxi can't type ether04:14
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thoegercan't type ether... :-D04:14
redguy|workrev: you sure you got everything connected ?04:14
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thoegerAny powerpc users in here? ibook...04:14
chieftainhi guys ... is it just me and my computer or did the extra repository gone walk about and dissapear??04:15
jdierEpsilon - are you browsing with a graphical browser or from the command line?  If command line, make sure you are doing an ls -a04:15
revredguy|work: controller bios reports the drive correctly04:15
erUSULrev, i do not have sata myself so i can not know for sure. do you have any /dev/scsi0 or something?04:15
Gaaink, got Ubuntu browsing now. Do I need to worry about firewalls, and stuff like adaware etc? Basic stuff but im learning04:15
EpsilonGraphical browser.04:15
jdierEpsilen, and if you are using a graphical, make sure you have show hidden files checked.04:15
EpsilonYup04:15
EpsilonI do04:15
Epsilonand it shows04:15
reverUSUL: nope nothing beside that dm thingy04:15
Epsilon.Trash-henry folder04:15
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rob_poddflux:  Here's one of many that turned up with a simple search:  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm04:15
Epsilonand in there04:15
spacewindows partitions are not accessible?04:15
Epsilonis a Media Folder04:15
thoegerGaain: what exactly do you thinkof?04:15
Epsilonwhere my music used to be.04:16
Gaain???04:16
reverUSUL: and I cannot unload dm_mod ...it's in use04:16
Epsilonbut nothing is in t here04:16
oddfluxthanks.04:16
oddfluxthere are quite a few vulns....04:16
thoegerGaain: you asked about adaware and firewalls and so, but I didn't really get what you mean....04:16
erUSULGaain, use firestarter if you feel you need a firewall04:16
jdierEpsilon - have you tried using a terminal and looking via ls -la or ls -a?04:16
GaainIve read that as Ubuntu has no services (in a windows way) that you do not need to woory about such things04:17
oddfluxhttp://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm04:17
EpsilonNo, I am very new to Linux, got it yesterday so I have no idea how to work anything.04:17
thoegerGaain: True as for adware/spyware04:17
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erUSULrev, i do not know. sata support in linux is a little bit beta http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html04:17
ubuntu!ntfs04:17
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK04:17
EpsilonCan one of you PM me and explain how to use termnal to look at my music?04:17
chieftainis backport and universe repository working for u guys...??04:17
oddfluxbitchx sucks balls.04:17
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binarydigitEpsilon: google basic unix commands04:18
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jared2am I crazy or is nis no longer in the repositories?04:18
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chieftainbackport and universe repository is not working for me .. is it working for you?04:19
foxinessis there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch typing ? i see one with kde interface and one on CLI is there one for gnome ?04:19
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oddfluxbinarydigit, have we met?04:19
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reverUSUL: I think dm_mod is resposible for this but I dont know how to unload it... well thanks so far :)04:19
binarydigitoddflux: not that i'm aware of04:19
anir./join #ubuntu04:19
erUSULrev, np04:19
jared2chieftain:no04:19
thoegerIs there a way to tweak the frames around picture previews on my gnome desktop?04:19
chieftainoh ok .. so it's not me04:19
chieftainany reason why it's not working04:20
chieftaindo we have to look for different repository?04:20
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oddfluxyou got o oftc binarydigit?04:20
binarydigithuh04:20
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GaainThanks ill look for firestarter and maybe google for antivirus stuff. This may be unecessary but coming from windows you cant help but worry. Im also looking for CAD stuff and dont mind buying it if any one can point me towards a good piece of software. Thank youall04:20
oddfluxyes, I'm sure we've met.04:20
oddfluxI have an acct on your site.04:21
binarydigitoftc?04:21
binarydigitwtf04:21
oddfluxdo you go to oftc?04:21
binarydigiti dont know what that means04:21
oddfluxirc.oftc.org04:21
binarydigitno04:21
mahangu_Gaain, you can have it run services (called jobs)04:21
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mahangu_ubotu, tell Gaain about CLI04:21
oddfluxlinuxcult..04:21
oddfluxugh nevermind04:21
binarydigitoddflux: like i said, we havent met04:22
thoegerGaain: the only reason to worry about virus is if you accidentally pass them on to your windows friends04:22
jared2Gaain: check out System>Help>Ubuntu Starter Guide>Networking> AntiVirus04:22
thoegerGaain: well not the only one but...04:22
Gaainthoeger<< That sound good04:22
oddfluxbinarydigit yes... my apologies.04:23
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GaainThanks all im learning quickly04:23
jdierEpsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/  This is a good starting point.  Basically you need to go to the ubuntu menu -> accessories -> then open terminal.  Everything is text from here on out.  You will use commands like cd to change directories and ls to list the directories.  the website I pasted is a good help for getting started.  I am also brand new to linux.  If you want it to all work you are going to have to find some si04:23
jdiertes were people have posted info and idea on how to do stuff.  forums like these often times assume that you have search places like www.linuxquestions.org to find out if you have a machine/software problem, or if it is just that you do not know how linux works.04:23
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thoegerGaain: one of the main advantages of linux (Or OS X)...04:23
jared2Gaain: I just discovered that Starter Guide, It's great.04:23
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thoreauputicGaain: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus#virus04:23
Epsilonjdier do you have MSN Messenger?04:24
oddfluxHm.... LinuxLuser still come around04:24
oddfluxor arbshct04:24
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thoegerEpsilon: You better sign u for Jabber soon and never admit using a Microsoft product again ;-)04:25
GaainRight im off to read up on some of the basic. Again thank you all04:25
oddfluxHow abou tPUtz04:25
thoegerGaain: Have fun!04:25
GaainLuckily its snowing and ive got nothing better to do04:25
jdierjdierrandcom is my yahoo id04:25
oddfluxputz04:25
thoegerIts snowing and I've got a lot better to do but still I'm here...04:25
verizanyone know what could be wrong? im in mysql-5.0.16 folder and typing make -> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.04:26
jdierepsilon - and jdierrandcom works in gaim.04:26
Epsilonthoeger why?04:26
slonchocheers all. I have installed thin server install of 5.10. Now I want to install and run X server, no gnome, no kde. Just X for one app I need. Which packages I need to install, and how to invoke the "installation" mode so Ubunto helps me to config the X? When I installed full gnome system, I saw in the package list (in synaptic) package named x-server-minimal, which description was that this...04:26
sloncho...is the real minimum to run X (which I need). But I can not find this package now through apt-get.04:26
=== Serge_K so cool,.. finally it's finished this damned work and 2 weeks free ahead..
thoegerEpsilon: Just joking...04:26
jared2Gaain: where are you04:26
binarydigitveriz: run ./configure04:26
verizi did04:26
thoegerEpsilon: Microsoft isn't exactly popular among Linux geeks04:26
binarydigitdid it complete succesfully04:27
Gaainsouth east UK04:27
binarydigitwithout any errors04:27
verizbinarydigit: but still cant do make04:27
Epsilonhow dO i go back in terminal?04:27
verizbinarydigit: any other ideas?04:27
GaainWe panic at the first sign of snow04:27
binarydigityea, did it complete successfully04:27
thoegerEpsilon: Its still my main protocol though - only use Jabber to speak to other linux geeks04:27
mahangu_sloncho, tried apt-cache search?04:27
binarydigitcause i bet it didnt04:27
Stew_LappyGaain - am in the south east too, not a sign of snow here04:27
thoegerGaain: Denmark. We don't panic, but the trains stop instantly....04:27
verizbinarydigit: checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found04:27
slonchomahangu: I did. apt-get search min - no joy04:27
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jdierEpsilon - thoeger is saying that you should get an IM login that is not tied to microsoft.  Yahoo has a great free one and it works well with gaim which is a linux IM program04:28
slonchoapt-cache ...04:28
binarydigitveriz: ok so you need that library before you can continue, search for it in synaptic04:28
rodhow to install ubuntu-desktop except for one specific package?04:28
oddfluxrob_p?04:28
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verizbinarydigit: i cant :S im on console only04:28
jdierEpsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/#toc604:28
GaainLappy , each of the country in Kent04:28
Gaainedge even04:28
thoegerJdier & Epsilon : Thanx - sorry04:28
binarydigitveriz: apt-cache search04:28
Stew_LappyGaain East Sussex04:28
GaainRaining though i bet down there04:29
Stew_Lappyyup04:29
GaainEastbourne way04:29
Stew_Lappycloser to Brighton04:29
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chieftainbinary:  backport / universe repository's not working .....    any other one that i can add to my list?04:29
GaainHopefully youll get it later, its pretty cool04:29
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Stew_Lappybest thing I did all week was install this distro04:29
kanchanaautomatix sucks04:29
kanchanai tried using it..04:30
kanchanait installed everything w/o a single error04:30
thoegerKancha - anything special or just a statement? :)04:30
rob_poddflux:  Sorry... I stepped away for a minute...04:30
Stew_LappyI used automatix, worked great for me.04:30
kanchananow my system is up and running04:30
|Lestat|can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)04:30
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GaainGood xmas then, ive had it for a few weeks but been struggeling to get in on the web, Have finally managed it one I get to grips im  gonna put it on all my machines and bin Micro$oft04:30
oddfluxtis cool... just checkin gif you're still around04:30
kanchanathoeger.. the maker of automatix shd be knighted for his work and u shd be banned for life from this forum04:31
jared2Gaain: New York, it's unusual that we don't have snow.04:31
Seveasautomatix should NOT be used, it's crap04:31
Seveas!automatic04:31
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five?04:31
Seveas!automatix04:31
uboturumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!04:31
kanchanaseveas.. u are whats crap..04:31
RemmyPerhaps a silly question, but where can I find the exact .config for one of the kubuntu supplied kernels?04:31
thoegerkanchana: ????04:31
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EpsilonI have last question.04:31
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Stew_LappyGaain thinking the same, I just grabbed the 64bit live cd to test out my main pc.04:31
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verizbinarydigit: still cant find :S maybe you can help me a bit?04:31
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jared2Stew_Lappy: I live in Brighton -- Brighton Beach, Brooklyn   ;)04:31
EpsilonI am in a folder04:31
Epsilonand i said04:32
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Epsiloncd Sansa m25004:32
|Lestat|can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)04:32
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Epsilonand it said that it wasn't a directory04:32
Epsilonhow do04:32
EpsilonI cd into the player04:32
GaainYeah I like the fact that the boot cd's including knoppix (soz) appear to ride rough over all Micro$oft security04:32
jared2Has anyone used NIS on ubuntu?04:32
Stew_Lappyjared2 hope you are having better weather04:32
thoeger|Lestat|: sorry...04:32
GaainAnd they generally pick up networks straight away04:32
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jdierEpsilon - you will have to do a cd /04:33
binarydigitveriz: check the README for the requirements04:33
binarydigitand install them04:33
Stew_Lappythis is the first distro that I haven't had to leave to do something in windows with04:33
jdierEpislon - then a cd /mnt04:33
oddfluxStew_Lappy  nice04:33
jared2Gaain: That's because Micro$oft doesn't have security -- Contradiction in terms :)04:33
visik7why in gnome-terminal ctrl+c doesn't work properly ?04:34
binarydigitdefine proper04:34
thoegervisik7: what do you mean by not properly?04:34
jdierEpsilon then do an ls to see if your player is there.  when the player is plugged in it will be recognized as a mounted device which means you will find it under /mnt/*something*04:34
visik7thoeger: when I ping something and then I press ctrl+c doesn't stop04:34
jared2visik7: It cancels a command that's running, not copy. just different, not broken.04:34
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|Lestat|thoeger: for? :P04:34
jared2visik7: try right-click04:34
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oddfluxctrl+x04:35
jared2visik7: That gets me all the time too.04:35
GaainRight I must go nice chatting, speak again Gaai04:35
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HappufHey can someone tell me how to mount NTFS partition in ubuntu breezy?04:35
thoeger|Lestat|: For not knowing how to disable your kernel modules.....04:35
HappufIt didnt auto mount for some reason.04:35
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spaceI cant mount it either.04:35
visik7jared2: I want to cancel a program that's running04:35
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visik7jared2: but it copy instead04:35
visik7I think04:36
jared2visik7: which terminal prog are you using?04:36
visik7I don't want to copy btw04:36
thoegervisik7: you're not holding shift?04:36
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spaceah I got it.04:36
spaceyou have to go into drive manager.04:36
spaceDisk manager I mean.04:36
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ubuntuhey, when installing, what exactly does the "linux archive-copier/copy=false" option do?  does it still install everything?04:37
thoegerNah.... Bye....04:38
mevvishttp://www.arh.ru/~alexhot/urb/8.htm04:39
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reverUSUL: I've found the problem... http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Dec/1935.html04:40
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visik7jared2: ping04:40
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HericusLadies.04:41
HericusSeveas..04:41
Joe4why cant i run .exe files from  a cd?04:41
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HericusJoe4, ?04:42
spacelol04:42
SeveasJoe4, because exe files are for windows04:42
slonchoif someone have missed or a newcommer can answer: what minimal set of packages I have to install over minimal server instalation in order to have Xserver configured and running. nothing fancy, just X.04:42
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HericusJoe4, with software such as cedega and wine you may be able to.04:42
Joe4man, setting all this stuff up for my everything onboard mobo is a pin04:43
Joe4pain*04:43
Seveassloncho, x-windows-system-core04:43
Joe4i really wich ppl would release more linux drivers04:43
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HericusNot all of course..04:43
cratel1how do I set up Breezy so the monitor goes into a power save mode after a certain number of minutes of inactivity? It's not in "screensaver."04:43
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Seveassloncho, and ubuntu-base is recommended04:43
pashawsloncho,   id recommend    server install  then susod apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:43
HericusSeveas, how've you been?04:43
pashawsloncho,    xubuntu  is what im using now  its small and rather nice04:44
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rodhow to install a meta-package except for one package which is included in that meta package?04:44
Kindredcratel1, I think it is in the advanced tab in there04:44
Seveasrod, install all other packages :)04:44
slonchoSeveas: just dis does not start X. complains for missing drivers, etc.04:44
pjssilvaMy desktop becomes very unresposive when I am ripping a DVD or a CD. Is this expected?04:44
Joe4I have to go through this dsl box, and i have to use the drivers for it, and their all exe04:44
Seveassloncho, xorg-driver-*04:44
cratel1Kindred: not that I can find...04:44
Seveasfind what you need...04:44
pjssilvarod: install the metapackage and then uninstall the un-wanted package.04:44
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slonchopashaw: do I have to add additional repository for this? or it is part of the normall install?04:45
flogistonWhere do i install xfce themes?04:45
rodSeveas, I tried to copy the whole list with packages, exclude that one and then past it back.... But the pasting back - i can't get it in 1 single line, they contain more lines so pasting is not possible04:45
Kindredcratel1, you have display modes & advanced right?04:45
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jonohi all04:45
slonchopashaw: it does not load OO, etc., right?04:45
Seveasrod, what is the metapackage?04:45
rodpjssilva, well, that one package won't install (md5 sum error) and that halts the rest of the installation04:45
pashawsloncho,   server install  is cd    then xubuntu   uses cd also  but might grab some stuff off  normal repos04:45
rodthe meta package is ubuntu-desktop04:46
rodquite a big one i can say04:46
slonchoSeveas: thanks, I'll try04:46
jonohas a recent update to breezy made /dev/dsp go away?04:46
Seveasand which package don't you want?04:46
cratel1Kindred: I don't think I do. Where is display modes?04:46
slonchopashaw: thanks.04:46
Kindredcratel1, at the top of the screensaver preferences dialog04:46
pjssilvarod: Try deleting it in /var/cache/apt/archives and download it again.04:46
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cratel1Kindred: it's missing on mine. Is this a separate package that I am missing?04:46
pashawsloncho,   not sure   as i changed to xubuntu after gnome made this lappy  crawl04:46
rodSeveas, I dont want openoffice2-core because after the download that packages gives me a md5 download error  and that halts the installation of the rest of the system04:46
Seveasrod, that will disable all of openoffice...04:47
rodSeveas, thats fine04:47
jonomy /dev/dsp has disappeared but when I play something with mplayer it still seems to emit sound - what is wrong?04:47
Seveasrod, delete the openoffice.org-core .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives04:47
Seveasand retry installing ubuntu-desktop04:47
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slonchopashaw: I need something really thin, as I just want to run MythTV on it. Actually maybe I'll end-up to run it over framebuffer w/o any X. But still think that with X it'll be better.04:48
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rodSeveas, ok they are deleted and then?04:48
pashawsloncho,   try xubuntu   if you dont like it  start over04:48
Seveasapt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:48
pjssilvarod, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:48
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rodpjssilva, that will download openoffice again and give me that error also again04:49
slonchopashaw: ok, I'll  give it a try when I get home04:49
pashawsloncho,   this is linux  your not paying to try diff versions like windows :P04:49
rodpjssilva, i did a apt clean and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop 20 minutes ago04:49
sloncho:))))04:49
slonchoyeah, this is 4-th distro to try for MythTV, but looks like it'll fit best :)04:49
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jdierEpsilon - once you get a yahoo or jabber IM login, enter me into your gaim contact list and feel free to ask me questions off line.  I am a newbie too, but when available and able, I am happy to help.04:50
Remmyjono: All I can say is that mine seemsto have disappeared overnight too04:50
jonoRemmy, oh really?04:50
pjssilvarod, but the file for openoffice.org-core was corrupted during download. You need to download it again.04:50
flogistonWhere do i extract the xfce themes to use them?04:50
jonoanyone else lose /dev/dsp too?04:50
Kindredcratel1, http://brandify.com/temp/advanced.jpg - you are missing this?04:50
nix4meis there an iso of dapper that is after flight 2?  like a nightly build that can be installed?04:50
Remmyjono: Yes... but I've been messing too much with other things to attribute it to anything in specific, but I didn't do anything consciously to make it go away04:51
rodpjssilva, well i downloaded it over 10 times already04:51
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jonoRemmy, yeah, neither did I04:51
rodim using Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB] 04:51
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pjssilvarod, what repository are you using?04:51
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rodpjssilva, i say you thinking lol04:51
rod*saw04:51
rodpjssilva, this is not the specific package giving the error (because that is the core package) but you get the idea04:52
pjssilvarod, Try the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/04:52
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cratel1Kindred: yes. Mine looks completely different. I don't have that "advanced" tab. And I only have 1 screensaver. I also just noticed that ubuntu-desktop is not installed on my system. Perhaps this is part of the problem...04:52
rodpjssilva, alright, does it go like this then? Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB] 04:52
rodthe link then i mean...04:52
Kindredcratel1, hm..04:53
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pjssilvarod, I am not sure what you mean by "link".04:53
cratel1Kindred: I think I'll install ubuntu-desktop, which includes the xscreensaver, and see if this solves the problem...04:53
rodpjssilva, nevermind... if apt-get update gives me errors i know ^^04:54
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pjssilvarod, The line in /etc/apt/sources.list should be something like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted04:54
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rodpjssilva, yeah i had that04:55
rodpjssilva, i need to re-login because i get an error that says :) Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un04:55
pjssilvarod, Good luck.04:55
rodthanks, ill be right back04:55
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jared2How do I type in the Location Bar like System>Help>Starter Guide>Tips&Tricks> #9 says?04:55
Sunn_TI have been having trouble with my Ubuntu install. I've made 5 copies of the .ISO file.04:56
jared2can anyone else do that?04:56
pashawjared2,    click those menus04:56
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pashawjared2,   opps your gunna make me that04:56
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Sunn_TWhen I check the integrity of the CD it says that a file has a checksum error.04:56
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jared2pashaw: ??? did you try it?04:57
trappistSunn_T: that's a failed test04:57
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Kindredjared2, Ctrl+L04:57
trappistSunn_T: how are you burning it?04:57
Sunn_TRight. How is it that in 4 out of the 5 CDs that I've made that the same file is corrupted?04:57
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jared2Kindred: Ohhhhhh! They should have mentioned that!04:58
gunfushow can I modify teh max resolution that gnome uses..?04:58
jared2Kindred:Thanks.04:58
Kindredjared2, agreed. :)04:58
teprrrhmm, looks like X is broken in dapper atm? am I right?04:58
trappistSunn_T: could be a hardware problem, but it could also have something to do with the way you're burning04:58
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gunfusThe max resolution that I can select is 1024 by 72404:58
gunfusI want more04:58
gunfusbut is not shown04:58
Sunn_TI've burned it with NTI CD-Maker Gold, Alcohol 120, and Nero 6.6 .04:58
trappistSunn_T: make sure you burn with in dao mode04:58
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SeveasSunn_T, is the iso ok? Did you burn at low speed?04:59
Sunn_TI did notice that DAO/TAO was selected... Would DAO alone work better?04:59
jared2Kindred: can I make it stick that way? It keeps going back.04:59
Sunn_TI burned at 8x. I think that's the lowest it goes.04:59
trappistSunn_T: dao=disc at once and tao=track at once.  you definitely want dao.04:59
UngyOK I can't figure this out I mounted a folder from my server via Nautolis it is my music directory now I am tryin gto point Rythm Box at it but I can;t find it any ideas?04:59
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Kindredjared2, not sure sorry (not a fan of nautilus in general..)05:00
SeveasUngy, nautilus doesn't mount anuthing...05:00
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mahangu_Seveas, he means rightclick+ mount i think05:00
misteriosahello05:00
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misteriosai think05:01
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UngySeveas, what does connect to Server from Nautilus do then?05:01
misteriosa......05:01
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rodhehe still the md5 sum mismatch on openoffice-core :/05:02
rodeven with the new mirror05:02
rodoh oops, still old mirror doh05:03
rodsec05:03
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SeveasUngy, connect via gnome vfs05:03
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gunfushow can I modify teh max resolution that gnome uses..?05:04
gunfusThe max resolution that I can select is 1024 by 72405:04
trappistgunfus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:04
UngySeveas, well I have the mounted directory sitting on my Desktop I have no idea how to access it05:04
lurahhappy new year and stay alive. =) im off for few days05:04
Kindredjared2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77346 - seems easy enough if you want to do it05:05
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trappistgunfus: it's xorg's resolution, not gnome's.  gnome just runs on top of xorg05:05
UngySeveas, it is also under my places menu05:05
gunfusright05:05
SeveasUngy, that is *NOT* mounted05:05
RemmyPerhaps a silly question, but where can I find the exact .config for one of the kubuntu supplied kernels?05:05
Seveasonly applications that understand gnome-vfs can access it05:05
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SeveasRemmy, /boot/.config-$(uname- -r)05:06
UngySeveas, so I cannot connect to this directory then great05:06
Ungyis there any music players that understand gnome-vfs?05:07
gunfus305:07
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RemmySeveas: Ok, so if I use that in combination with the kernel source to compile me a new kernel05:07
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Remmyit ought to be identical?05:07
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rodSeveas, can you look up which guy was trying to help me with my meta package problem just before i quited xchat? I cant remember the name of the guy hehe05:07
ArXoniKi have a noob question, why is everything in ubuntu repositories outdated? OOo, Firefox ...05:08
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fanopnaicRemmy: you might lack some patches.05:08
UngyArXoniK, welcome to linucx either switch to Debian Sid and deal with the bugs or what til the next realease shoudl be in about 3 months05:08
mahangu_Ungy, that is bad advice05:08
ArXoniKthat is a lovely advice05:09
UngyArXoniK, or you could compile the shit yourself05:09
RemmyAs I've been having bad luck with it05:09
toydihi, i just installed ubuntu and stuck with 640x480 resolution. How to resolve it?05:09
gnomefreakArXoniK, there is a repo for OOo and as for firefox1.5 it will be added a while from now05:09
mahangu_toydi, paste the output of your xorg.conf05:09
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ArXoniKthank you for your advice Ungy, you are perfect help05:09
mahangu_ArXoniK, do you want help? i have some compiled debs for gaim 2 beta etc05:09
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mahangu_Ungy, if you can't be helpful, don't help05:10
Enlil_Ishtarhello05:10
ArXoniKthank u guys (apart from Ungy) i just wondered whether i missed something05:10
flogistonWhere do i install xfce themes?05:10
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flogistonI've been looking att xfce.org and other pages. I just can't find it...05:10
mahangu_flogiston, apt-get install xfce4-themes05:10
gnomefreakArXoniK, breezy was done in devel when these other packages came out as i said if you look at !easysource you will see a repo for OOo205:10
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Enlil_IshtarI can't play *.wmv videos :s VLC, MPlayer and Totem just play sound, RealPlayer can't play it and xine play it sound and video but with a distorted :s05:11
rodhow can i see which device my root filesystem is on? Rightclicking ' Filesystem ' doesnt reveal if it's for example dev/hda105:11
flogistonYeas i know that. But i found this theme on freash meat or something.05:11
gnomefreakflogiston, did you try xfce-look.org?05:11
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ArXoniKthanks again :) i will sort it out05:11
Remmyfanopnaic: Do you know if the kernel source with all patches applied is available somewhere?05:11
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rodEnlil_Ishtar, what version of wmv is it?05:11
|Lestat|is anyone here running wireless networks?05:11
flogistongnomefreak: no i'll do that right away.05:11
Enlil_Ishtarrod> dunno. How do I see that?05:11
pashawrod,    df -h05:12
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rodEnlil_Ishtar, rightclick and properties05:12
rodpashaw, ?05:12
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rodpashaw, was that for me? :)05:12
fanopnaicRemmy:  linux-source-2.6.12 seems to contain all patches.05:12
pashawrod,   yes your question above05:12
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gnomefreakflogiston, hope that helps05:12
thoreauputicbah sorry05:12
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thoreauputic!fixres05:12
ubotuI guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:12
thoreauputicag=ha05:13
Enlil_Ishtarrod> version 805:13
rodAllright, thanks pashaw  :)05:13
RemmyThanks fanopnaic :)05:13
rodEnlil_Ishtar, alright then you should be able to play everything incl video05:13
fanopnaicyou're welcome.05:13
rodEnlil_Ishtar, What i do is install totem-xine first05:13
rodThe go to the mplayer website and download there a codec pack05:13
toydimahangu, pasted done.05:13
rodand if you open totem, you can go from there to a codec folder05:13
rodjust extract the codecs which you downloaded from the mplayer website into that folder05:14
rodand totem-xine will use them05:14
rodwmv included05:14
Enlil_Ishtarokay05:14
Enlil_Ishtarwin32 codecs I suppose?05:14
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rodit's also in the ubuntu faq if you want to re-read it Enlil_Ishtar05:14
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pashaw!tell Enlil_Ishtar about restrictedformats05:14
rodthat one pashaw  :)05:14
Enlil_Ishtar:) thanks05:14
rodbbl, ttfn05:15
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eleduhi05:16
pashawhit05:16
pashawhit!05:16
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blunted!fstab05:17
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.05:17
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Igahi everybody05:17
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rodrigohola05:18
Kindredgday.05:18
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IgaI'm a young french ubuntu-newbie (so apologize my english's quality), could someone help me ?05:18
rodrigoalguna persona habla espaol05:18
vrlnIga: just ask your questions here, if someone knows, they'll answer :)05:18
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rodrigopara que me ayude05:18
vrlnno need to ask if you can ask05:18
jdier[Lestat]   I am running a wireless network05:18
rodrigoa resolver algunos problema s05:18
thoreauputic!es05:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:19
pashawIga,   if we cant   you can go to05:19
pashaw!fr05:19
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais05:19
rodrigogracias05:19
chmod775!firefox05:19
Igaok ! : well, I've been using Hoary for 2-3 months05:19
ubotusomebody said firefox was a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.05:19
chmod775!firefox1.505:19
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:19
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Igaand I received the Breezy cds some days ago, so I would like to install it05:19
jdier|Lestat| I am running a wireless network05:20
Igabut, I already have a modem problem on Hoary05:20
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jocke1sHi all,05:20
IgaA friend who masters linux helped me, but I won't be able to see him until 2-3 weeks05:20
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pashaw!tell Iga about breezy05:21
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Ungyubotu has facts wrong Firefox is now developed by Mozilla Coporation05:22
ubotuokay, Ungy05:22
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psusiit allways was wasn't it?05:22
kruemmelhey05:23
IgaAfter installing Hoary, I had to install the modem's driver here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto?action=show05:23
nicholas1520i have a  question: i installed apache, php and such with the synaptic package manager and the directory for the apache interface is: /var/www/ now and that part belongs to root and obviously i can't write any data to there and i have no idea what password the root account uses or even how to login to it.05:23
dabaRheh05:23
kruemmeli got a question05:23
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kruemmelsudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg05:23
kruemmelsry05:23
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pashawUngy,    it always has05:23
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kemik!firefox05:23
ubotufirefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.05:23
kruemmelevrytime i restart, i have to do pppoeconf at first, to be able to use "pon dsl-provider"05:23
dabaRnicholas1520: use sudo. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:23
fanopnaicnicholas1520: either you use sudo, or you set a root passwd using "sudo passwd root"05:23
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dabaRkruemmel: post your /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.05:24
kruemmelpastebin?05:24
nicholas1520i'll go with the second one05:24
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dabaR!pastebin05:24
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:24
kruemmelok, i will do so05:24
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dabaRnicholas1520: go with the link...and read the reasoning, before you do anything with your syste,.05:24
dabaRkruemmel: ok, you do so, and tell me when you had posted.05:25
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pashawnicholas1520,   use sudo    for amin tasks05:25
Ungypashaw, since it's creation yes but that was recently05:25
Juhazpashaw, psusi, mozilla foundation spun off mozilla corporation in august. but if four months is your definition of "always"...05:25
pashawUngy,   isnt that wahyt the FAQ reads05:25
kruemmelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637705:25
psusiohh... I see... corp vs found05:25
nicholas1520pashaw, i need to chmod something05:26
psusisame thing ;)05:26
nicholas1520but sudo won't let me05:26
pashawJuhaz,  you cant change the developed by    after the fact  :P05:26
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BxLhow do I install kde?05:26
Ungypsusi, not really completely seperate entities now05:26
kruemmelsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:26
kruemmel@bxl05:26
BxLthanks05:26
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kruemmelnp05:26
psusion paper maybe05:26
kruemmelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637705:27
Juhaznot even on paper, since mozilla foundation owns mozilla corporation05:27
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UngyJuhaz, oh really?05:27
psusithat's my point... it's just a subsidiary05:27
IgaWIll the installation be similar with Breezy (I have a copy of the wiki I gave you the link above) ?05:27
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psusithe only difference is in the legal filings05:27
kruemmelanyone got an ide05:28
kruemmela of what to do05:28
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dabaRkruemmel: let me type, I will tell you what to do.05:28
kruemmelok05:28
dabaRkruemmel: I see this quite often. I found a solution to it right away(it was introduced in breezy) so I never wondered as to what it really means, and why it happens. But, I know the most likely solution, it will likely fix your issue. Remove all lik05:28
kruemmelthx05:28
kruemmellik?05:28
dabaRa premature enter press...05:29
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kruemmelwhat do you mean with lik?05:29
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UngyJuhaz, yeah I guess yrou right05:29
pashawIga,   ive never done that upgrade path     sorry05:29
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maximianohi all... please, anybody teach me how i change my screen resolution?05:29
dabaR!fixres05:30
ubotufixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:30
JuhazUngy, the news item is still on the web pages. http://www.mozilla.org/reorganization/05:30
mevvishttp://www.arh.ru/~alexhot/urb/9.htm05:30
thoreauputic!fixres05:30
dabaRwin me05:30
kruemmelhey05:30
thoreauputic:)05:30
kruemmelcan you tell me what lik means?05:31
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dabaRkruemmel: disregard the part from "Remove..." on. Anyhow, I suggest you make your file look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6378 and then rerun pppoeconf, after which I would like you to post your interfaces file again, please.05:31
dabaRkruemmel: give me time, please...05:31
kruemmelill do so05:31
dabaRThanks.05:31
UngyJuhaz, I read it on the http://www.mozilla.com/about/05:31
maximianothanks05:31
kemik!java05:33
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:33
kemik!javadebs05:33
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy05:33
kruemmeli edited the file05:33
kruemmelshall i do a restart05:33
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kruemmelor just run the pppoeconf now?05:33
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dabaRkruemmel: not at all. just rerun the pppoeconf, ya, but only if your file is same as what is on that pastebin I made.05:34
kruemmelyes, its the same05:34
kruemmelnow05:34
nicholas1520is there an alternetive way to edit a file thats in the root's control?05:34
Dreamglidercan i mount any hd's when i use the ubuntu live cd ?05:34
thoreauputicnicholas1520: use sudo gedit   (or your editor of choice)05:34
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giggseyRight, I've upgraded to amaroK 1.3.7 and its still giving SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 005:35
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kemikdabaR:  stop bugging me :P05:35
kruemmelit looks like this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/637905:35
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francareshi... how can i install the libesd0 without apt removes ubuntu-desktop...?05:36
nicholas1520gedit:12863): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:05:36
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nicholas1520this thing just doesn't like my guts.05:36
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SS2somebody here that knows the glibc bug of OOo2?05:37
Bin4ryHi everyone05:37
davidwinterare there any recommended guides for using ubuntu as an arcade machine?05:37
davidwinterrecommended by folk here05:37
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thoreauputicnicholas1520: try gksudo gedit05:37
UngyDoes anyone know of a music player that understand gnome-vfs?05:37
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nicholas1520k05:37
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thoreauputicnicholas1520: you aren't trying  to open it *as* root are you?05:38
dabaRkemik: nothing personal, it is good to learn about the culture.05:38
Igapashaw > somebody else may have done it ?!05:38
Bin4ryHow can i make all my NTFS partitions writable ? they always seem to mount read-only ? im using the livecd05:38
kemikdabaR:  i knwo.. i just keep forgetting ;)05:38
dabaRkruemmel: after a sudo pppoeconf?05:38
thoreauputicnicholas1520: root can't use your user display - you need to use gksudo with *your* password05:38
kruemmelyes05:38
UngyBin4ry, you can't?05:38
dabaRkruemmel: almost impossible.05:38
kruemmelbut it is so05:38
nicholas1520ooo05:38
dabaRkruemmel: oh, I missed one part.05:39
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psusiBin4ry: you can't... write support is not availible using the lniux ntfs driver05:39
thoreauputicnicholas1520: think about it - X isn't running as root so it will not open for another user05:39
Bin4ryhow can i go about that then ?05:39
Bin4ry:|05:39
nicholas1520hmm...05:39
psusiBin4ry: you don't05:40
thoreauputicnicholas1520: and of course runnig X as root is a *bad* move05:40
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UngyBin4ry, you don't use FAT on your windows05:40
Bin4ryno05:40
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UngyBin4ry, then you don;t write teo your windows direcotories05:40
nicholas1520well ya, all i want is some love! and to edit file in /etc/kde3/kdm/ or just even have prillileges to run chmod on a folder in / =/05:41
Bin4rythat sucks tho.05:41
psusiroot can use any display it wants... root can not log in to X because X is not configured to be a secure terminal, and root can only login on secure terminals05:41
pashawBin4ry,   bad idea   you risk losing everything even if you found a way to force it to write05:41
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UngyBin4ry, thank Microsoft for that one05:41
Bin4ryhehehe05:41
thoreauputicnicholas1520: if you are running kde, use kdesu kate  instead05:41
psusiBin4ry: you can set up a shared partition that uses fat32, and both windows and linux can use that to transfer/share files05:41
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kemikBin4ry:  but remember that FAT32 is no good :(05:42
dabaRkruemmel: make it like it was before you ran pppoeconf, and then you can try rebooting, if you want. I am not sure what is wrong.05:42
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pashawpsusi,   hes using liveCD and wants to write to ntfs05:42
kemikwhy is there no good way to mount ext3 partitions in Windows? :|05:42
UngyBin4ry, NTFS is great I love it one of the best things MS ever did however it sucks if you use Dual boot like me so I use a Server to hold everythign I need05:42
raphaHi all!05:42
kruemmelok i will do so05:42
thoreauputickemik: ask Microsoft05:42
kruemmelbut i shouldnt rerun pppoeconf after the restart?05:42
kemikthoreauputic:  ext3 is open, should be some 3rd party software available :)05:43
nicholas1520No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" you know its been telling me this since gnome to kde now lol and i have no idea waht sh is actaully05:43
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thoreauputickemik: there is a program to use ext2 from windows actually05:43
thoreauputicexplore2fs or something?05:43
thoreauputiccan't recall05:43
Kindredthere are a few 3rd party programs to mount ext3, mount everything is another05:44
thoegeranybody using Mouseemu?05:44
kruemmeldabaR?05:44
kemikKindred:  mount everything costs $$ :/ i want free stuff ;)05:45
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nicholas1520ubotu Are you smoking crack?, nicholas152005:45
ubotunicholas1520: Do they come in packets of five?05:45
nicholas1520:o05:45
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nicholas1520Yes!05:45
kruemmeldabaR: i will restart now05:45
nicholas1520i think i love this bot05:45
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thoegerNobody using mouseemu?05:46
thoreauputicthoeger: rather than running a survey, why not say what your problem is?05:47
gnomefreak!info mouseemu05:47
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ubotumouseemu: (Emulate mouse buttons and mouse wheel), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.15-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 108 kB05:47
gnomefreaksomeone uses it if the bot knows it :)05:47
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thoegerthoreauputic: Wouldn't bother people with lotsa questions if nobody has a clue anyway. Hope that's okay for you05:48
_TomBdoes anyone know where I can get lib++dfb/05:48
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kruemmeldabaR: THX man, it works05:48
Draken!root05:48
ubotuBy default the root password is locked in Ubuntu. You should use sudo, which will ask for your own password. For more info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:48
thoreauputicthoeger: how can anyone help if you don't specify the problem?05:48
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thoegerthoreauputic: If nobody in here has knowledge about Mouseemu, how should any details make a difference?05:49
Drakenguys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils05:49
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gnomefreakubotu tell thoeger about mouseemu05:50
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Drakenguys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils05:50
thoegerBut anyway; I was just wondering if it was possible to tweak scroll speed and so on...05:50
thoreauputicthoeger: interesting logic - don't ask a question because you assume no-one can help - but do it your way by all means05:50
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pashaw!tell Draken about nvidia05:51
gnomefreakubotu tel Draken  about nvidia05:51
ubotugnomefreak: Not a clue05:51
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pashawlol05:51
thoegerRead the man page, nothing there, just hope there might be  some possibilities05:51
gnomefreakty i typoed it05:51
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gnomefreakthoeger,  did you try googling for it?05:52
thoegerYup05:52
CountDownHas anyone managed to change the login photo thumbnail?  I've tried both the "Login Photo" and "About Me" dialogues, but my login image is still the default.  I don't want to be a large, goateed, white man any more.05:52
gnomefreakthoeger, you will most likely find the info you need on the home page for mouseemu05:52
Drakenim usiong kubuntu05:52
thoegergnomefreak: there is no doc available afaik05:53
Drakennot ubuntu05:53
Drakenso its not same gui05:53
thoegergnomefreak: alas, no05:53
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thoegergnomefreak: which surprised me somewhat too... But anyways, didn't want to make a big fuzz out of it, just thought it might be worth a try05:54
Drakenguys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils05:54
Drakennot ubuntu05:54
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Drakenim usiong kubuntu05:54
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ZondeRhi all, I use Xchat for the first time, how can i get rid of all those "BxL has quit" and "michael has join" messages?05:54
gnomefreakDraken, nvidia drivers will be same info on them but please feel free to use #kubuntu if you think their answer will be better05:54
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NoWhereToTurnNeed help with accessing admin based utils in Ubuntu05:55
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Drakengnomefreak, its telling me to go to SETTINGS at top of screen05:55
Drakenthere is no such thing in th hgui05:55
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CountDownNoWhereToTurn: what exactly is the problem?05:55
IgaZondeR: I fear it might not be possible05:55
NoWhereToTurnroot account has password but that password is not being accepted in say the Networking app05:56
gnomefreakDraken, than go to settings in the menu05:56
Drakenok05:56
ZondeRarg! thank you iga ...05:56
toydihi, I just installed ubuntu, but resolution stuck in 640x480. Tried the wiki's HOWTO but still failed.05:56
gnomefreaksame thing different place05:56
thoreauputic!tell NoWhereToTurn about root05:56
CountDownThe root account password should be your own password.  Check to make sure Caps Lock is off.05:56
hackeronI'm getting an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 chipset motherboard (not by choice), can someone tell me what doesnt work out of box?05:57
gnomefreakthoeger, this site didnt help http://linux.com.hk/penguin/man/8/mouseemu.html05:57
NoWhereToTurnsudo doesnt work .. Networking login prompt indicates "wrong password"05:58
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SS2re05:58
psusino... there is no root password... sudo does not ask for root's password, it asks for yours05:58
SS2where kann I find soffice?05:58
SeveasNoWhereToTurn, sudo wants *your* password, read what ubotu said05:58
SS2supposed to be the starter script of OOo205:58
jonojdub, ping05:58
SS2and need to edit it05:58
skonAnyone know of adware that affect linux at all? I've been running for Ubuntu for several weeks and sometimes FireFox just brings me to the most random pages without even clicking anything?05:58
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toydianyone free to help me up with my screen resolution?05:59
CountDownNoWhereToTurn: See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root for an explanation of sudo and root on Ubuntu.05:59
NoWhereToTurnSorry.. that is confusing as heck especially when other distros use root and root password05:59
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spacek i cant find gstreamer0.8-mad in the packets , this normal ??05:59
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NoWhereToTurnIt worked05:59
thoreauputic!info gstreamer0.8-mad05:59
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB05:59
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gnomefreakskon,  im not aware of any06:00
thoreauputicspace: you need the universe repo06:00
skonk06:00
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spaceI need what ? lol06:00
thoreauputic!tell space about repos06:00
thoreauputicspace: check the URL ubotu sent you06:01
y_o_utrying to install baghira on kubuntu 5.10 and where you download the file it says "Baghira is allready part of the Official Debian Archive, so you can just apt-get install it from Sid." what does that mean, in n00b speak?06:01
spacethx.06:01
ZondeRiga: i found the solution! i am sure u are interested: Right-click on the tab you want to change. In the submenu of the channel name, there's a toggle-item "Show join/part messages", simply turn this off.06:01
thoegergnomefreak: Thanx, but it told me only what I knew. Seems that's what I can hope for...06:01
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budluvahow is ati support in ubuntu? i was thinking of getting a new video card today, just wondering if i should stick with nvidia or go with ati06:01
skony_o_u: then just do sudo apt-get baghira06:01
haasteemhi, is it possible to run the gnome screensavers in blackbox? if so, how?06:01
Seveas!info baghira06:01
skony_o_u: then just do sudo apt-get install* baghira06:01
gnomefreaky_o_u, that means you can sudo apt-get install <packagename>06:01
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Seveas!+info baghira06:02
ubotuPackage 'baghira' does not exist.06:02
existancels06:02
thoreauputichaakonn: yes, just run xscreensaver-demo06:02
existanceeh.. oops :/06:02
Seveasit's not yet avilable in Ubuntu, grab the source from sid and compile it06:02
nicholas1520!info baghira06:02
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Seveas!+info baghira daper06:02
NoWhereToTurnGot another question. If one is using a Ps/2 mouse but wants to switch to a serial mouse on com2 what util in KDE has to be run to change the mouse?06:02
ubotuPackage 'baghira daper' does not exist.06:02
Seveas!+info baghira dapper06:02
haasteemthoreauputic: was that message for mr?06:02
ubotuPackage 'baghira' does not exist.06:02
haasteemme?06:02
nicholas1520hmm06:02
thoreauputichaasteem: yes sorry - bad tab complete :)06:02
y_o_ui will try it now, thank you06:03
haasteem:) ok thanks06:03
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erUSULNoWhereToTurn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:03
AIVWhen creating a software raid do you have to have a md device for each partition such as swp, /, /root etc?06:03
CountDownHas anyone managed to change the login photo to something besides the default large, goateed, white man in a blue shirt?06:03
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gnomefreaki have kwin-baghira it looks like theme for apple junkies06:04
nicholas1520somebody stop me from pming this bot lol06:04
skonCountDown: I haven't either lol06:04
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thoreauputichaasteem: you can also add "xscreeensaver --nosplash " to your blackbox start script if you wish06:04
Igazonder: done! than you very much, I began beeing fed up with that06:04
nicholas1520nicholas1520 Are you gay?06:05
nicholas1520ubotu I don't know, could you explain it?, nicholas152006:05
ubotunicholas1520: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:05
CountDownI've tried both the "Login Photo" and "About Me" dialogues, but neither seems to affect the image used.06:05
haasteemthoreauputic: you mean .blackboxrc?06:05
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ZondeRiga: yep, ifelt like sitting beside the door in a big restaurant06:05
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gnomefreakthe bot is not a toy06:05
thoreauputichaasteem: should have been only one - ( -nosplash ) and I don't run blackbox, but I'm sure the docs will tell you :)06:06
y_o_ugnomefreak, so what packages did you d/l and install? there are about 20. get them all?06:06
Seveasgnomefreak, I guess he understands that now06:06
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gnomefreaklol Seveas06:06
haasteemthoreauputic: alright, thanks for the tip06:06
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yggdrasilirc.addictz.net06:06
gnomefreaky_o_u, i dont have it installed i ran apt-cache search baghira06:06
SeveasdabaR, both06:06
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thoreauputichaasteem: whichever script starts blackbox  - you will probably need to add an & at the end of the line too06:06
dabaR:)06:06
Igazonder, have you ever installed an "Intel536" internal modem on breezy ?!06:07
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dabaRSeveas: do you use dsl?06:07
y_o_usorry, thought you said you had it installed06:07
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SeveasdabaR, yes06:07
haasteemthoreauputic: ok06:07
haasteemthoreauputic: let me look into it06:07
dabaRSeveas: well, does your computer use pppoe to connect?06:07
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Seveasno, my modem handles that, I can simply use dhcp :)06:07
dabaRSeveas: OK.06:07
thoreauputichaasteem: I use fluxbox - but I run it from ~/.xsession in my home dir06:07
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gnomefreakno y_o_u  why dont you try running apt-cache search <packagename> it will let you know if you can get it with apt-get06:08
Seveas(actually, my wlan router handles dsl dhcp)06:08
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=== gnomefreak thought fluxbox and blackbox were pretty much the same :(
haasteemthoreauputic: right... then you can probably tell me also how to make windows transparent :)06:08
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thoreauputichaasteem: like terminals? depends which one you use06:09
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haasteemthoreauputic: yes06:09
skonhaasteem: are you using aterm or xterm06:09
haasteemthoreauputic: xterm06:09
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existanceI cannot connect to my mySQL database with any account... how do i set the user and password, I can't find it in the docs.06:09
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trappist<3 Eterm06:09
thoreauputichaasteem: xterm doesn't do transparency06:09
dabaRexistance: #mysql knows.06:09
trappistexistance: connect as root with no password06:10
skonhaastem: can't you just do Edit|Current Profile?06:10
ZondeRiga: no, sorry, i don't even know what it is :)06:10
gnomefreaki use super terminal and gnome term :)06:10
thoreauputichaasteem: i recommend urxvt ( rxvt-unicode)06:10
skonOr is it different in fluxbox06:10
y_o_ugnomefreak: i would but i dont have internet access on kubuntu yet (wireless problems), so cant run apt-get (i dont think, at least)06:10
haasteemthoreauputic: hmmm.... then how do i use aterm?06:10
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y_o_uthanks though, i will remember that if i ever do get it up and running06:10
thoreauputichaasteem:  aterm -tr06:10
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thoreauputichaasteem: man aterm ;)06:10
existancetrappist, eh... how?06:10
Belboz99Hey all, I'm having a strange problem with Amarok, it just plays through all the MP3's in a few seconds with no sound.  No errors though.  I'm using the AmaroK Xine engine, with auto output, thanks06:11
gnomefreaksorry couldnt be more help06:11
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NYCT_4_EVERhello06:11
haasteemthoreauputic: let me try06:11
skonhaasteem: this is a pretty one I use sometimes : aterm -trsb -tr -sr -title "Terminal" -sh 30 +st -vb -sl 2000 +si -fg white -bg black06:11
thoreauputichaasteem: aterm doesn't like UTF-8 though06:11
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Igazonder: a rtc modem (not automatically installed by ubuntu)06:11
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AIV;_;06:11
lowman62g'day room06:11
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dabaRexistance: you can also read the docs from the mysql site, they are good too. "mysql -u root" or so06:11
haasteemthoreauputic: looks like i don't have aterm installed06:12
ZondeRIga: thankyou, now i am sure i can't help06:12
existancedabaR i have them in front of me, just having a bit of trouble navigating them i guess.06:12
thoreauputichaasteem:  sudo apt-get install aterm  :)06:12
dabaRexistance: try that command.06:12
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haasteemthoreauputic: i fugured that :)06:12
existancedabaR, denied for user: root@localhost (using password: NO)06:12
thoreauputic:D06:12
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haasteemthoreauputic: what is the difference between aterm and xterm anyways?06:13
dabaRexistance: did you just install?06:13
existancedabaR. couple days ago06:13
thoreauputichaasteem: aterm is lighter and quicker, xterm is standard and has different options06:13
AIVHello, I'm sorry I asked this question yesterday and I never got a answer, I'm new to linux & raid devices Im trying to create a software raid right now but I have a problem setting up the partitions06:13
lowman62mysql -p <--then type your password at the prompt after06:13
AIVany advice?06:13
existancedabaR, i think i used the command mysqladmin -u root newpassword ***** (the new password)06:13
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thoreauputichaasteem: I changed to urxvt because aterm does weird stuff to utf-8 fonts06:14
haasteemthoreauputic: ok, but it basically serves the same purpose, right?06:14
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dabaRexistance: you created a root password, and forgot it?06:14
existancedabaR, nono, i still know the password06:14
thoreauputichaakonn: sure, so do gnome-terminal, Eterm, etc06:14
haasteemthoreauputic: ok, so urxvt is a same thing as aterm or xterm?06:14
lowman62then it is >mysql -p06:14
existancedabaR, i assumed it would use the user and password from whatever user i was attempting to login from06:14
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dabaR"mysql -u root ***" then...06:15
dabaRI think06:15
thoreauputichaasteem: basically similar to aterm - the package is  rxvt-unicode i think06:15
existancedabaR, cool, thanks :)06:15
thoreauputic!info  rxvt-unicode06:15
uboturxvt-unicode: (RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 5.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 316 kB, Installed size: 736 kB06:15
dabaRexistance: no, lowman62 is likely right, -p is also needed before the ***06:15
thoreauputicyup06:15
Igazonder: ok, it doesn't matter. let's hope broadband will come early !! (I live in france)06:15
haasteemthoreauputic: ok, let me check in synaptic06:15
lowman62it is I have mysql on my machine I use it to develop with06:15
existancedabaR, you can either do -ppassowrd, or -p and put the password in on the next line as ****06:15
existancedabaR, i remember reading that :)06:15
dabaRexistance: and have you logged in yet?06:16
existancedabaR, yea, it worked.06:16
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existancedabaR, how do i add users though?06:16
haasteemthoreauputic: hmm... synaptic doesn't find urxvt06:16
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thoreauputichaasteem:  no,  rxvt-unicode06:16
AIVexistance, you can also create user's that way supplying a blank pw mysql will prompt you for one e.g. mysql -unewname -p06:16
dabaRexistance: good. join theur channel, and read that manual, I remember specifically there is a place where it is shown how to addusers.06:16
thoreauputicsee ubotu above :)06:17
haasteemthoreauputic: aahhh :)06:17
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thoreauputichaasteem: the *command* is urxvt :)06:17
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Kindredanyone know how I go about stopping my ntfs partition from appearing on the desktop? (while still being automounted..), I also don't want to turn off visibility for mounted icons because I still want to see dvds etc..06:17
existancedabaR, there is, but I don't know how to find the base directory :(06:17
KyralKindred: its buried in GConf someplace06:17
mwethoreauputic: I can't get the transparency to work in urxvt, though. not that it matters that much too me06:17
existancebin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql06:17
lowman62existance do this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/adding-users.html06:17
gnomefreakthoreauputic, is it -urxvt or urxvt06:17
KyralNote to any GNOME Devs listening: GCONF SHOULD BE SHOT!06:17
KindredKyral, I think it's only for all mounted volumes :|06:18
KyralThing reminds me of the XP Registry06:18
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thoreauputicmwe:  have you tried urxvt -tr   ?06:18
mwethoreauputic: yeah06:18
gnomefreaki have all the repos enabled and i cant apt-cache search it06:18
dabaRexistance: base directory for what?06:18
existancedabaR, mySQL06:18
thoreauputicgnomefreak: just urxvt06:18
dabaRexistance: which you need because?06:18
existancelowman62, thanks, that looks like it'll help :)06:18
thoreauputicmwe: works fine here06:18
existancedabaR, the reference manual says to be in it to run the commands...06:18
lowman62it will it helped me out a lot :) yw06:18
gnomefreakthoreauputic,  if its installed apt-cache search should still fin it right?06:19
existancelowman62, is that a different manual than the reference one?06:19
mwethoreauputic: weird06:19
mwethoreauputic: you didn't set anything else for it to work?06:19
thoreauputicgnomefreak: it's in universe - the package is  " rxvt-unicode"06:19
lowman62no that is the 5.0 manual but it works for older versions as well for most things "FOR MOST THINGS"06:19
thoreauputicmwe: no06:19
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haasteemthoreauputic: ok, got it installed and running... now how to make it transparent?06:20
skonHow come when I change my terminal preference in "Preferred Applications", it still opens with the Gnome Terminal?06:20
dabaRexistance: most likely not needed.06:20
existance;06:20
gnomefreakthere it is ty i was kind of worried there for a min06:20
mwethoreauputic: hm. and it's the rxvt-unicode package, not one of the other rxvt-unicode packages?06:20
thoreauputichaasteem:  for example - urxvt -tr -bg black -fg white06:20
dabaRexistance: what version do you have? 4.0, or 4.1 or a later one?06:20
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existancedabaR, the manual lowman62 showed me has a way to do it while running mySQL06:20
thoreauputicmwe: well that's the one I installed yes06:21
mweI guess it just dislikes me then06:21
dabaRexistance: oh, K, I never saw what e was doing...06:21
lowman62existance the GRANT statement works best06:21
lowman62;)06:21
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haasteemthoreauputic: wicked!! :)06:21
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haasteemi really like that06:22
existancedabar, 4.0.24 though06:22
thoreauputichaasteem: read the man - lots of otheroptions there :)06:22
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haasteemthoreauputic: can you also do that in gnome?06:22
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thoreauputichaasteem: yes, you can do it with that or gnome-terminal06:22
NYCT_4_EVERanybody can tell me whre the french chanel is  ?06:22
haasteemthoreauputic: ok06:23
Seveas!fr06:23
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:23
thoreauputichaasteem: but gnome-terminal doeasn't start as fast :)06:23
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haasteemthoreauputic: :)06:23
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NYCT_4_EVERthks06:23
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mwehave you tried ls /usr/lib in gnome-terminal, then in rxvt? I see a great difference in speed06:24
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haasteemthoreauputic: can you also make other app windows transparent, for instance xchat?06:24
gnomefreakrxvt should be faster06:24
thoreauputicmwe: gnome-terminal is pretty slow, yes06:24
lowman62haasteem yes you can06:24
thoreauputichaasteem: you can make the text area in xchat transparent06:24
lowman62yes text area06:25
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thoreauputichaasteem: it's in Settings- Preferences06:25
robertjhow does the pid find it's way to $piddir/sshd.pid06:25
haasteemthoreauputic: ok06:25
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robertjI see in it's init entry where it is checked for but not where it is set06:25
dabaRexistance: your nick may be spelled wrong, I just noticed. I can suggest the manual for 4.0, then, it is really very good, and the #mysql people know quite a bit too.06:25
Linfano.k i just did top on terminal it says i have 99 tasks,1 running,98 sleeping and im using 549mb of my 742 of ram i have...is there anyway like windows to stop uneeded services or programs to make the system faster?06:25
StarQuakeis it a good idea to use ubuntu as a webserver?06:25
existancedabaR, good eye, it is :P06:25
lowman62don't know why you would want that tho...makes it kinda hard to read text then :P06:25
haasteemthoreauputic: but for. let's say openoffice it becomes a bit more troublesome, i guess....06:25
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existancedabaR, not that i'm going to change it or anything06:26
khermansAnyone know the syntax for on-the-fly SSH backups?  I think it is like --> tar jcvf - /home/foo | ssh user@remotehost "cat - > backup,tar.bz2" <-- Is this syntax exact?06:26
StarQuakea public one06:26
thoreauputicLinfan: you are misreading - most of the ram is buffers and cache06:26
StarQuakeor should i focus on debian for that task06:26
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robertjStarQuake: I've had very good luck running www.music.uga.edu off of it06:26
mwethoreauputic: I wonder why the heck I can't get the transparency to work, though :|06:26
thoreauputicLinfan: and the sleeping processes aren't using resources06:26
gnomefreakStarQuake, ubuntu should be fine as a server06:26
dabaRexistance: no, off course...I noticed cause there was this movie exiztanz or something like that.06:26
StarQuakerobertj what about new releases06:26
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thoreauputicmwe: dunno :|06:26
StarQuakesay from 5.04 to 5.10?06:26
robertjStar: I'm holding at hoary until dapper06:26
skonHow come when I change my terminal preference in "Preferred Applications", it still opens with the Gnome Terminal?06:26
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robertjand hten I will stay there quit a while06:26
Linfanso how do i know how much ram im using?-i go to system monitor ant it says im using 235 of my 74206:27
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StarQuakebut how long will there be updates for dapper?06:27
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skonLinfan: free -m06:27
robertjStar: 5 years for the server06:27
gnomefreak3 years06:27
afiefHow can i make my firefox encoding Right-To-Left instead of left to right???06:27
thoreauputicLinfan:  try looking at the second line of  free -m06:27
robertjgnome: no, 3 years for the desktop, 5 years for the server06:27
gnomefreak5 for server yes06:27
StarQuakeah 5 years06:27
mp3guyhi, is there anyway i can encrypt a standard text file or something, or password lock it?06:27
StarQuakethat's enough06:28
gnomefreakrobertj,  i know i fixed it06:28
lowman62afief: in the address bar type > about:config06:28
robertjhehe, so anyone with a clue about how the pid file gets created for sshd?06:28
lowman62it is in there06:28
robertjdoes init have some mechanism for creating pid files?06:28
skonmp3guy: gcipher06:28
StarQuakemm well, let's get installing then :P06:28
Linfanit on top this is what it says-742960k,556346k used, 186512 free, 24724 buffers06:28
lowman62by the way that is a better way to configure the browser it goves you way more options06:29
haasteemthoreauputic: weird, when i set the background in xchat to transparent, it shows the gnome wallpaper and not the one i am using right now in blackbox, how come?06:29
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lowman62*gives DOH!06:29
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thoreauputichaasteem: you probably ran nutilus without the --no-desktop option06:29
afieflowman62: I see lot's of flags, but which should i change?:S or at least in which category should i look?06:29
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thoreauputic*nautilus06:29
gnomefreaki read it as gives :(06:29
skonNobody knows how to change the default terminal???06:29
haasteemthoreauputic: what does nautilus have to do with this?06:30
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lowman62skon: man bash gives you that info06:30
gnomefreakskon, you do it in prefered apps06:30
Linfanwhat command do we use in linux to bring up ipconfig info?06:30
lowman62i cannot remember how.. :P06:30
thoreauputicLinfan: look at the entry under "free" when you run  free -m   (on the second line) That is a more realistic measure06:30
gnomefreakifconfig06:30
lowman62Linfan: ifconfig06:31
skongnomefreak: that doesn't change it...whenever I click the icon it still opens up Gnome terminal06:31
gnomefreakor iwconfig for wireless06:31
thoreauputichaasteem:  nautilus draws the desktop unless you tell it not to :)06:31
Linfan- m06:31
Linfanthats what i type in in teminal06:31
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gnomefreakskon, you set the icon to load gnome terminal06:31
haasteemthoreauputic: ok, but in my menu file, i have given nautilus that option06:31
oxezOkay so after finishing the gentoo install guide, I rebooted, and then followed the GNOME 2.12 guide. I woke up this morning and everything was complete, I configured the HALd thing, and then rebooted. Now it complains about net.eth0 not starting, which I have logs of: http://24.122.115.48/net_error . Any ideas?06:31
gnomefreakif you change the set up in the icon its self to load rxvt it can be used06:32
skongnomefreak: it set it to load bash06:32
gnomefreakskon,  or make a custom launcher06:32
haasteemthoreauputic: or does it remember that i ran nautilus without the option at one point in time (i think i did that once last night)06:32
thoreauputichaasteem: in that case I don't know what is happening - I use feh to set my backgrounds with fbsetbg06:32
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StarQuakei hate transparent hacks06:32
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thoreauputichaasteem: your conjecture is probably right06:32
gnomefreakskon, under basic if you look at commmand line type in the command to loar rxvt06:32
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gnomefreakload*06:33
haasteemthoreauputic: thank you :)06:33
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skonfigured it out....thanks06:33
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gnomefreakyw06:33
sunsunMez, are you from australia?06:33
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thoreauputichaasteem: no worries :) if you log out of BB and log back in I suspect the problem will disappear - or try "killall nautilus"06:34
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oxezWoops, sorry for posting my question in this channel I always confuse myself. Sorry again06:34
Mezsunsun - the UK06:34
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sunsunMez, are you a writer? net.artist?06:34
haasteemthoreauputic: right06:34
Linfani go to this board where they show alot of funny videos-i really dont want to get internet explorer (i dont even know if it can run in linux) but how can i set up firefox to play everytype of video when streaming?06:34
gnomefreakskon,  when you set it in perfered apps it will bring up the rxvt terminal by default using the hotkeys like alt+F whatever06:34
sunsunMez, i am from london06:35
Linfanright now all i see is a square gray area where the video should be'06:35
benplautNX client keeps reporting this... any suggestions?06:35
benplautInfo: Proxy running in client mode with pid '8536'.06:35
benplautInfo: Connecting to remote host '70.xx.xxx.xx:5000'.06:35
benplautInfo: Aborting the procedure due to signal '15', 'SIGTERM'.06:35
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polpakLinfan, First get all the plugins for the restricted formats06:35
benplautpm me, i brb06:35
kensaiHi people a very stupid question but I'm very new to this wlan0 thing in Linux. I have recently put a wireless network card that can work in Linux through ndiswrapper. Do Ubuntu 5.10 includes ndiswrapper package in the default install?06:35
skonokay, tanks06:35
polpakubotu tell Linfan about restricted06:35
Kyralkensai: its on the CD06:35
Linfani did automatix and i installed them06:35
skonkensai: no, you have to install it06:35
thoreauputic!automatix06:35
ubotusomebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!06:35
polpakLinfan, then you just need to get the mplayer plugin for firefox06:35
Kyralkensai: with the CD in the drive sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils06:35
kensaiskon, I have to install it fronm repo or cd?06:36
gnomefreakkensai, no06:36
skonkensai: either way06:36
haasteemLifan: try the mplayer plugin06:36
haasteemLinfan: try the mplayer plugin06:36
Linfani did install it through automatix also06:36
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kensaiKyral, thanks06:36
haasteemLinfan: i don't know automatix06:36
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polpakLinfan, well the only ones that mplayer plugin doesn't support is quicktime and rm I believe06:36
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StarQuakei think automatix is ugly06:37
AIVhas anyone here done the fakeraid howto?06:37
haasteempolpak: it can also handle realplayer streams06:37
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polpakhaasteem, ah, good to know06:37
=== thoreauputic thinks people should not run random scripts that they don't understand
rjordankensai, If you have trouble with the version of ndiswrapper (1.1) in the repos, try downloading and building it's sources. The latest(1.7) worked flawlessly for me.06:37
haasteempolpak: quicktime, i don't know06:38
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gnomefreakthoreauputic, what random script?06:38
StarQuake./random.sh06:38
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tomihi06:38
thoreauputicgnomefreak: scripts that purport to install all the missing bits in Ubuntu for instance06:38
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trappistsudo ./random.sh to get rid of those pesky 'permission denied' errors06:39
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gnomefreakif people would take the time to read the info they would undersatand how the script (any scripts) work :(06:39
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gnomefreakthoreauputic, ahhh good point06:39
haasteemskon: what was that command you gave me earlier on for running a transparent window?06:39
polpakgnomefreak, they don't even have to read the script. Just reading the wiki will suffice06:39
plagerismHow would i determine what drive grub is installed on?06:39
thoreauputicgnomefreak: but they don't - and new people can't be expected to read bash scripts and know what they are doing to the system06:40
gnomefreakpolpak,  thats what i meant i meant read the wiki or homepage or whatever06:40
polpakgnomefreak, ah.06:40
seliniumHi all, I have just compiled from source 'tonefree' check install has completed and installed it, but i cant find it anywhere! Even after updatedb  && locate tonefree06:40
seliniumAny ideas06:40
gnomefreaki didnt mean the script itself06:40
kensairjordan, I think I won't have many problems since my card is a US robotics 5416 and it was donated by Us Robotics itself to the ndiswrappers developers so it is oficially suported. I think 1.1 will work since I'm using 1.2 here at the moment06:40
_thumper_Hi all, I have a Maxtor external HD that connects directly to the network (cabled), but shares using windows shares. I was wondering if it is possible to mount using nfs rather than samba as it looses file attributes.06:41
thoreauputicgnomefreak: but if you don't understand the script, you are running a risk - especially as root / sudo06:41
gnomefreakthoreauputic, very true06:41
rjordankensai, cool. I had trouble cause I'm on an amd64 laptop and needed a 64 bit xp driver.06:41
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thoreauputicselinium:  dpkg -L tonefree  ?06:42
QMarioHello thoreauputic!!! :)06:42
thoreauputicQMario: hi :)06:42
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kensairjordan, sure it has to be a pain. I'll just have problems with setting ndiswrapper myself maybe since in pclinuxos there is a gui tool for doing so, I didn't had to play with any commands06:43
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doreinyhello06:43
doreiny:] 06:43
NoWhereToTurn<erUSUL> NoWhereToTurn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- if one is using a serial mouse on COM2 do u select the dev/mouse or ttys1 as the port?06:43
doreinysorry for my english06:43
erUSULNoWhereToTurn, ttyS106:43
doreinyi got some problame in source.list file06:44
doreiny(im new in linux)06:44
StarQuaketell us06:44
doreinyi got some :06:44
thoreauputicNoWhereToTurn: ttyS1 <-- notice capital S06:44
kensaikubuntu should have ndiswrapper to right?06:44
doreinyPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:44
thoreauputicNoWhereToTurn: *nix is case sensitive06:44
kensaiI mean I have 6.04 flight 206:44
pashawdoreiny,  language you speak?06:44
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polpakdoreiny, you need to enable your universe and multiverse repos06:44
doreinyhebrew and english06:45
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StarQuakesjalom06:45
thoreauputic!tell doreiny about sources06:45
doreinyye its all enable06:45
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benplautInfo: Aborting the procedure due to signal '15', 'SIGTERM'.06:45
mp3guyhow do i set which version of gcc ./configure uses?06:45
benplautwoops06:45
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rjordankensai, ndisgtk pwnz :)06:45
benplautanyone here know anything about FreeNX?06:45
kensairjordan, in cd?06:45
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thoreauputic!freenx06:46
ubotufreenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX06:46
gnomefreak!freeNX06:46
ubotuit has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX06:46
erUSULmp3guy, use export CC=... make06:46
rjordanI don't know if it's on cd but it's in repos.06:46
hikenboothello can anyone tell me if the ubuntu installer detects via_velocity gigabit ethernet adapters?06:46
doreinywait i will show you my source.list file ill just upload him06:46
StarQuakelol, 'it has been said'06:46
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pashaw!il06:46
ubotupashaw: Do they come in packets of five?06:46
kensairjordan, I'll try with kubuntu 6.04 flight 2 since that is what I have burned at the moment06:46
mp3guyerUSUL, how do i use that?06:47
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kensaiI'll switch to ubuntu if it works since I Love GNOME06:47
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gnomefreakndiswrapper-util should be on cd (atleast for breezy06:47
hikenbootand would anyone recommend ubuntu as a system that will run a gui on 128 meg of ram?06:47
doreinylook06:47
KyralFluxbox06:47
doreinyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html06:47
polpakmp3guy, or of you want to set the version to use globally you can use sudo update-alternatives --config gcc06:47
pjlucasI have a software bridge set up and I believe it's dropping packets. What would be the best way to debug this? Suggested tools/utils?06:47
gnomefreakhikenboot, yes but more is better06:47
pashawdoreiny,   you can try #ubuntu-il     also if english becomes a problem06:47
erUSULmp3guy, you run configure and then run make with the 'export CC=gccxx' in front06:48
gnomefreak128 is min. ram you should use06:48
doreinyoh thanx06:48
doreiny:] 06:48
hikenbootall i want to do is run NXCLient to a server06:48
rjordancool06:48
KyralFreeNX wha?06:48
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polpakmp3guy, or not... I thought that was right, but it doesn't work on my system06:48
hikenbootyes the client associated with freenx06:48
mgwis it possible to put some pictures back to a digicam? if yes, how can i do this?06:48
hikenbootthe paid for client06:48
Linuturki like RealVNC06:48
Kyralick06:48
pashawhikenboot,   128mb    do a server install   then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:49
gouchiHi06:49
KyralI use the FreeClient06:49
gouchiis there a tips to make ls |less worky ?06:49
doreinypashaw : nobody out there :\06:49
pjlucasOr, similarly, ifconfig is showing that there are errors, but it's not saying what they are. How do I find out what the problem is?06:49
pashawdoreiny,   :(06:49
Linuturkwww.realvnc.com06:49
hikenbootpashaw: why is that exactly?06:49
gouchiit says less command not found and I have less06:49
gouchiwhich less is ok , my $PATH is ok06:49
gouchiany idea ?06:49
hikenbootfor consumption perposes?06:49
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pashawhikenboot,   gnome and KDE are RAM hogs   xubuntu is alot smaller06:49
verizanyone can tell me whats wrong? MySQL manager or server PID file could not be found!06:49
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pashawhikenboot,   im using it on my old 192mb lappy06:50
hikenbootdo  you know if it will work with FreeNX client?06:50
doreinypashaw : do you have link for some source.list (for a good one) ?06:50
thoreauputicgouchi: odd - does less work without the pipe ?06:50
Linuturkpashaw, there is a distro of xubuntu?06:50
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Kyral!xubuntu06:50
ubotuit has been said that xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu06:50
pashawLinuturk,   its a desktop    thats why you do server install from Ubuntu install cd06:50
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gouchithoreauputic : yep it's an example all my |didn't work !06:50
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mp3guypolpak, i fixed it, just made a slight change in configure06:50
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hikenbootok thanks a bunch guys will do exactly that06:50
odinHow do you make mplayer streatch from commandline?06:50
thoreauputichikenboot: the NoMachine client works fine with a freenx server06:50
pashawdoreiny,    enable universe and multiverse    what else you looking for?06:51
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Linuturkpashaw, o, i see, I thought there was an iso. I rely on a wireless connection that I don't know how to configure for ubuntu06:51
hikenbootthanks all for the great responses! currently running fedora in my dom0 but the damn thing is a memory hog06:51
pashaw!tell Linuturk about wifi06:51
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erUSUL!tell doreiny about repos06:51
doreinyit just that my friend edit this file and now im not sure its good06:51
Linuturkpashaw, i've been there, no help06:52
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pashawdoreiny,    ohhh    pastebin your sources.list   we can look at it06:52
pashaw!pastebin06:52
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:52
erUSULdoreiny, read what ubotu send you06:52
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doreinyyes 10q06:52
doreiny:] 06:52
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Ungyhow do I access a usb device?06:52
erUSULUngy, what kind of device?06:53
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doreinypashaw : http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html06:53
UngyerUSUL, mp3 player06:53
pashaw!tell Linuturk about ndiswrapper06:53
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erUSULUngy, it should just appear in your desktop once plugged06:54
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mevvishi06:54
UngyerUSUL, damn i Guess it's not supported06:54
mevvispeople don't use ICQ!!!!!06:54
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mevvishttp://maniak.fatal.ru/mirabilis/06:54
mevvispeople don't use ICQ!!!!!06:54
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benplautanyone here know anything about freenx?06:54
erUSULUngy, do sudo tail /var/log/messages and plug the thing06:54
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hikenbootok just one more question...looking for rock solid stability on a 2.6.8 kernel or later ..any recomendations of the version to use hoary or other?06:55
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benplauthikenboot: the default06:56
benplautit's the best tested06:56
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epphey06:56
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Linuturkdoes the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version?06:56
UngyerUSUL, nothing ;-(06:56
pashawdoreiny,   looks ok   universe has a repeat  but  you having problems?06:56
epphow can i add music to amarok from another computer?06:56
hikenbootmust have via_velocity net card support as well with nforce chipset support06:56
Ungyepp, mount the other computer drive06:57
hikenbootthats the last thing i can think of that will go wrong06:57
doreinypashaw : yes man i got some problames06:57
coNPepp: nfs / samba / ...06:57
eppk06:57
doreinyPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:57
doreinyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:57
doreinyis only available from another source06:57
polpakdoreiny, did you enable the multiverse repos?06:57
doreinyyes06:57
pashawdoreiny,  did you  sudo apt-get update06:57
polpakdoreiny, and the universe repos?06:57
doreinyyes06:58
doreinyand yes06:58
polpakdoreiny, and did an apt-get update06:58
doreiny:] 06:58
Linuturkpashaw, does the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version?06:58
thoreauputicmevvis: don't spam your URLs here please06:58
doreinyyes again :)06:58
pashawLinuturk,  64bit outta my league06:58
doreinythats whats wird06:58
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polpakdoreiny, well either you didn't do one of those, or your sources.list is wrong06:58
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nmsahello06:59
Linuturkdoes the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version? <<< Anyone else?06:59
doreinyfrom where i can get a good source.list?06:59
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pashawpolpak,  she posted her sources.list  in the link to me above06:59
nmsacan anyone help me with iptables ?06:59
hikenbootany comment on the nforce chipset support?06:59
thoreauputic!sources06:59
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:59
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StarQuakenl whooohooo!06:59
pashawpolpak,   this link  doreiny pashaw : http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html07:00
Ram[RL] how can i set 75Hz to my screen? i have currently only 60hz07:00
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gnomefreakubotu tell hikenboot about hardware07:00
doreinyyes can you see something wrong there?07:01
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polpakdoreiny, only that you haven't enabled the multiverse repo for the security updates..07:01
gnomefreakwhy are the sources repos # out07:01
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doreinyreally?! you can see taht?07:01
doreiny:)07:02
skonhasteem are you still here07:02
doreinythat*07:02
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doreinyohhh i can see it too now07:02
polpakgnomefreak, cause doreiny doesn't like building things from source?07:02
doreinyill try and tell you07:02
pashawgnomefreak,   lol im blind i passed right by those # at the src lines07:02
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skonhaastem: when you come back, the cmd is: aterm -trsb -tr -sr -title "Terminal" -sh 30 +st -vb -sl 2000 +si -fg white -bg black07:03
gnomefreakshould beable to add multiverse after universe07:03
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Linuturkthere isn't anyway to install from the live cd, is there?07:03
pjlucasAny suggestions on how to debug frame errors?07:03
haasteemskon: thanks07:03
skonnp07:03
benplautLinuturk: nope07:03
gnomefreakpashaw, but someday she might?07:03
skonLinuturk: nah07:03
gnomefreakyeah what they said :)07:04
benplautLinuturk: also, the support for 64 is still a bit behind for proprietary drivers... but don't listen to me - i use 32 :P07:04
budgesterhi, I am having trouble with video playback, all I seem to get is blue/cyan stripes, anyone got any ideas ?07:04
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polpakdoreiny, you're also missing the  restricted and main repos07:04
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eppalso what theme should i run to spede it up?07:04
doreinyoh07:04
pashawpolpak,   arent those at the top07:05
doreiny:\07:05
gnomefreakpashaw, also she has some scr un # and some #ed not sure if that will error or not07:05
doreinypolpak : i need to add a complate line's?07:05
gnomefreaksrc*07:05
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polpakpashaw, ah. you're right. I was looking at the other line07:05
chmod775!artmanager07:05
ubotuI haven't a clue, chmod77507:05
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pashawdoreiny,   no those are at lines 3 and 4  your ok07:06
chmod775!art07:06
ubotuart is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork07:06
polpakpashaw, oh wait no07:06
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polpakpashaw, gah. I can never remember how this file works.. ;p07:06
doreinyoh i enabled them now07:06
polpakpashaw, I always just use synaptic to manage my repos07:06
gnomefreaklol07:06
doreinybut still it dosent work07:07
davix_oh07:07
Linuturkbenplaut, when you say proprietary drivers, what do you mean? wireless stuff probably?07:07
davix_I see you're here07:07
gnomefreakdoreiny, sudo apt-get update?07:07
pashawdoreiny,   here ill pastebin mikne you can compare them    mine has us. your il.  ignore those07:07
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benplautLinuturk: not really sure... just repeating what i've heard the the past07:07
erUSULdoreiny, take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604707:07
doreinywow guys you are good :] 07:07
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lowman62well pitter patter time to scatter ;)07:08
pashawerUSUL,   thx bookmarked that clean one07:08
doreinygnomefreak: yes07:08
doreinypashaw : ok07:08
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doreinyerUSUL: what i need to see ? :\07:09
pashawdoreiny,   also do sudo apt-get clean && update07:09
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doreinyoh ok07:10
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doreinydone07:11
doreinybut still07:11
doreinylook07:11
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doreinydoreiny@tux:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms07:11
doreinyReading package lists... Done07:11
doreinyBuilding dependency tree... Done07:11
doreinyPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:11
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doreinyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:11
doreinyis only available from another source07:11
doreinyE: Package xmms has no installation candidate07:11
doreinysorry for the mass masseges07:11
pashawdoreiny,   please use pastebin next time  :(07:11
doreinyok man07:12
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doreinyim sorry07:12
doreiny:|07:12
gnomefreakdoreiny,  your using breezy?07:12
doreinyyes07:12
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doreinykubuntu breezy07:12
gnomefreakdoreiny,  try running apt-cache search xmms07:12
doreinyk07:12
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polpakdoreiny, and you are certain you're doing sudo apt-get update07:12
erUSULdoreiny, a good sources.lst for breezy07:12
doreinypolpak yes dude07:12
polpakdoreiny, cause the only other thing I can think is that it's not in the il repo07:13
doreiny7 times by now07:13
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yanis_hello07:13
polpakdoreiny, which doesn't make any sense07:13
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gnomefreak!info xmms07:13
ubotuxmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB07:13
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yanis_do you have any idea how I can do a "clean install" of ubuntu without formatting my hard disc07:14
thoreauputicxmms is in main - there's no way it's missing07:14
gnomefreakit looks like its in main repo il should be same as everyone else well i would think07:14
pashawyanis_,   you can reinstall   with default settings    but clean without formatting?07:14
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thoreauputicyanis_: erm - to do a clean install you have to format the disk at some point07:15
thoreauputicor at least a partition07:15
sethkyanis_, just rename all your existing directories.  I do mkdir /prev, then I move everything under /prev07:15
_TomBwhere is the grub conf files on the livecd?07:15
gnomefreaki thought thats what clean meant07:15
sethkyanis_, no need to format anything, not even a partition07:15
hypnozhello07:15
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doreinygnomefreak : doreiny@tux:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms07:15
doreinyits good07:16
gnomefreak_TomB, /boot/grub/menu.lst07:16
doreinyit find all the stuff07:16
_TomBnot there07:16
pashawyanis_,   you sure you dont mean you want to skip parttioning07:16
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gnomefreakdoreiny, it worked?07:16
doreinyyes07:16
thoreauputicsethk: but a clean install has to overwrite stuff - which is the same thing surely?07:16
doreinybut i cant install it07:16
gnomefreak_TomB,  do you have linux installed?07:16
yanis_cant I just give an rm -r / and then somehow install ubuntu again?07:16
_TomByes07:16
doreinyi just can search it07:16
Joe4ok, I have a dsl hub (called fritz box!) that I need to get working, but I got no clue how, normally i would run the cd for it and it woudl do it for me, but its an exe07:16
_TomBIm remastering the livecd07:17
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yanis_pashaw: I just want to skip the format step07:17
pashawyanis_,   thats the same as formatting thast partiton all it does is break all your index links07:17
|Lestat|anyone here happen to use a DWL-G132 wifi device?07:17
gnomefreak_TomB, sorry cant help there but grub config file should be at /boot/grub/menu.lst07:17
Joe4can someone please help me get my internet working??07:18
polpakyanis_, how is that different from formatting?07:18
yanis_pashaw: so formatting is just that??? not anything more?07:18
polpakyanis_, essentially07:18
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pashawyanis_,   formatting is cleanign the drive    parttioning is resizing partitions07:18
yanis_I thought that partitioning was 'more painful' for my HDD07:18
polpakyanis_, except perhaps that rm -rf / would be slower than formatting07:18
polpakyanis_, neither is 'painful'07:19
polpakyanis_, both are perfectly normal HDD activities07:19
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gnomefreakformatting will erase all data partioning is just setting up sections on hd07:19
pashawyanis_,   formatting is NOT bad at all matter of fact its good for your drive  youll find any bad spots07:19
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yanis_I have heard that you shouldnt format you disc 'every week'07:19
vilefridgeHello! :)  I'm trying to follow a how-to for installing the latest snapshot of madwifi-ng located here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105437&highlight=madwifi-ng      The very first step is to run sudo apt-get --purge linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`     however it results in the following error: E: Invalid operation linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386    What am I doing wrong?07:19
pashawyanis_,    thats a bit  odd to format that much   ive formatted disks 20 times on 1 week doing testing tho07:20
polpakyanis_, well, it would certainly hinder whatever projects you're working on, but it's not bad for the disk07:20
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yanis_I see07:20
psusithe only thing that is painfull about formatting or partitioning is the data loss ( if you forgot to backup the important stuff )07:20
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gnomefreak!madwifi07:21
ubotuNot a clue, gnomefreak07:21
gnomefreak!botsnack07:22
ubotu:)07:22
paulproteus|laptvilefridge: apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`07:22
pashawvilefridge,    do they mention unloading that module before remvoing it07:22
paulproteus|laptvilefridge: You must specify a *command* to apt-get, like "remove" or "install".07:22
paulproteus|laptvilefridge: --purge is a suggestion of how to do the command, but you never gave it a command.07:22
gnomefreaki missed that lol07:22
pashawlol me too07:23
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vilefridgepaulproteus|lapt, papshaw: thanks!  That worked =)07:23
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gnomefreakanyone else running breezy in the help icon under guide and upgrade  does it say breezy 5.04?07:28
gnomefreakor is it just me07:28
ubunt-newhow do i remove a program rm -rf program or rm -r07:28
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erUSULubunt-new, apt-get remove program07:29
gnomefreakubunt-new,  what program?07:29
psusiubunt-new: use synaptic07:29
ubunt-newif its from the source07:29
erUSULubunt-new, or use synaptic07:29
eppwhere is the network folder located?07:29
ubunt-newi installed and now i want to remove07:29
psusiubunt-new: you mean you compiled something by hand and did a "make install"?07:30
ubunt-newyes07:30
psusitry make uninstall07:30
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Joe4does anyone know how to set up a hub ? I really need help, total beginner07:30
gnomefreakdpkg -rw  something isnt it?07:30
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gnomefreak!dpkg07:31
Joe4I really need help with this hub07:31
paulproteus|laptJoe4: Set up a hub?07:31
Joe4ok07:31
ubunt-newif i want to uptdate gaim to gaim 2.007:31
paulproteus|laptJoe4: Tell me, what do you want it to do?07:31
ubunt-newhow u do it07:31
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gnomefreakubunt-new,  compile it for tar07:31
psusiJoe4: what kind of hub?  an ethernet hub?  there isn't anything to set up.. you just plug it in07:31
gnomefreakget rid of old gaim07:31
paulproteus|laptA USB hub?  Same deal.07:32
Joe4my internet (dsl) goes through this hub (its called fritz sl wlan) and in windows, i just put in the disc, and it sets it up for me, but its a exe so it wont run in linux07:32
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paulproteus|laptJoe4: Oh, okay.07:32
ubunt-newso i can not uptdate sudo apt-get uptdate gaim07:32
paulproteus|laptOnce you've set up the DSL router, you should be able to just use DHCP from Linux.07:32
gnomefreakno ubunt-new07:32
Joe4i dont have a router , jus this fritz box07:32
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Joe4and it doesnt work in windows till i run this disc07:32
gnomefreak2.0 hasnt been rel;eased yet and is still in beta even dapper doesnt have it yet07:32
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psusiJoe4: that box sits between your computer(s) and the cable modem right?07:33
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Joe4no cable modem, the cable comes from the phone cord, into the box, then into my computer07:33
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psusithen that box is a dsl modem07:33
Joe4alright07:34
phantomcircuit-ahttp://phantomcircuit.mine.nu/ i got splooged on :(07:34
AndrewX__ok so /boot = /dev/sda1   / = /dev/sda4       C:\ = /dev/hda1     ubuntu installs grub only to /dev/hda and i get a "Kernel Panic: VFS: cannot mount root fs"07:34
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psusithere are a few possibilities dependong on how the box and your isp are set up07:34
Joe4I cant even ask them how, they only speak german07:34
Joe4that really bites07:34
Joe4how do i find out what i need?07:34
psusione is that dhcp should make everything work fine... any isp that does not use this method needs kicked in the balls07:34
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Joe4yea that doesnt work on mine07:35
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psusithe other option is that they use pppoe, which is gay07:35
eppwhere is the network folder located?07:35
eppwhere is the network folder located?07:35
psusiI'm fairly sure you can use pppoe from linux, but I have no idea how to set that up07:35
Joe4damn07:35
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psusicall your isp and ask them if you need to use pppoe07:36
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Joe4alright07:36
Joe4i gotta get my wife to do it07:36
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Joe4i dont speak german, and we live in germany07:36
psusiif that's the case... see if there's any articles on pppoe on the ubuntu wiki07:36
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DRAGON_Ultrajoe4 you on dialup07:36
Fiyawerxhey guys, does anyone know how to play wmv3's? I installed vlc, but I just get audio and no video07:36
ataqany good vnc progs out there?07:37
Drakencan someone help me, im tryuing to dial up with kppp, but i keep on getting a PPPD error after it has dialed up ?07:37
psusiataq: yea... "vnc"07:37
ataqhahaha07:37
ataqlol07:37
bobbydFiyawerx, did you encode that video yourself?07:37
ataqdo you have drivers installed?07:37
Fiyawerxno07:37
ataqdraken07:37
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Joe4how can i tell if my ubuntu has found my nic anyway, because i havent installed any drivers for it, and its onboard, but i did "activate" it07:38
verizdoes anyone have mysql5.0? instelled with apt-get ?07:38
pashaw!tell veriz about lamp07:39
gnomefreakJoe4,  are you using the same pc in linux right now?07:39
Fiyawerxheh07:39
Joe4no07:39
Joe4lol07:39
yanis_does anyone knows how I can 'ssh' to a remote host without entering the password everytime?07:39
HappufSomeone know how the get folder availbe for me?07:39
Joe4im dual booting07:39
HappufWhat chmod i have to write?07:39
_nullyanis_, use public keys..07:39
verizpashaw: its installint mysql4.0 with that07:39
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verizpashaw: but im talking about 5.007:39
Happuf(Need acces to windows folder)07:39
gnomefreakJoe4,  use lspci command07:39
pashawveriz,   read it  its tells you about 507:39
Joe4how?07:39
yanis__null: I tried but I dont manage it..07:40
Joe4i dunno what that is07:40
verizpashaw: ok thnx07:40
_nullyanis_, ssh-keygen -t dsa, then put your key into .ssh/authorized_keys... do not forget to turn on the option in the ssh config07:40
Joe4ive used windows for life untill now07:40
gnomefreakjoe you log into  ubuntu and type lspci at commadn line07:40
Joe4ok then what?07:40
mweveriz: the latest version in my ubuntu is mysql 4.107:40
gnomefreakor Joe4  see if you nic card is listed here07:40
gnomefreak!hardware07:40
ubotu[hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:40
Joe4ok07:40
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yanis__null: where do I run ssh-keygen?in the ssh -server?07:41
gnomefreakJoe4,  you asked how to see if ubuntu sees your nic that command should tell you07:41
psusiyanis_: yes... make an RSA keypair and put the public key in the proper place on the server07:41
Drakencan someone help me, im tryuing to dial up with kppp, but i keep on getting a PPPD error after it has dialed up ?07:41
_nullyanis_, no, on the client07:41
_nullyanis_, then put it in .ssh/authorized_keys on the server07:41
mweDraken: what pppd error?07:41
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gnomefreakinstalling*07:42
epp ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?07:42
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meepyI got a question, lets say I used ./configure and make and make install to install a eg. a plugin, how do I then remove that again when I decide to not want to use it again? is there a command?07:42
Joe4i think i may just have to buy a new nic card07:43
mwemeepy: use checkinstall to install it instead07:43
meepyehm.07:43
gnomefreaksudo dpkg -r <packagename> i think and try to use checkingstall07:43
mwemeepy: it creates a .deb and installs it for your. you can then use dpkg -r to uninstall07:43
gnomefreakJoe4, what is your nic card?07:43
HappufHow i get to know my user pid?07:43
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meepyaaah. nice - apt-get install checkinstall?07:43
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gnomefreakmeepy,  yes07:44
gnomefreaksudo first07:44
meepy:)07:44
epp ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?07:44
mwemeepy: not all source packages provides an uninstall mecanism, but with those that do you can unstall with make uninstall from the source dir if you kept it07:44
Drakenmwe: it says PPPD daemon has died07:44
Joe4my nic card is a real tek07:44
Joe4let me find out07:44
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Joe4its on my asrock board brb07:44
mweDraken: yeah. you gotta look in the log files /var/log for more info about why it died07:45
meepymwe, what if I did not keep it?07:45
TCTCHhey, I have a new USB-250g Harddrive and I want to use it in linux and Windows...now how can I format it in fat32 so that win and lin can write...in linux? is there a programm?07:45
_nulltclhal, mkfs.fat07:45
_nullsorry this was meant for TCTCH07:45
TCTCHis it with interface?07:45
_nulli don't know, you could try gparted too07:45
bobbydTCTCH, does fat32 support drives that size? I think not in one partition...07:45
pashawTCTCH,   you can just format it in windows  as fat32   linux will be able to use it07:45
mwemeepy: then you're probably fsck'ed or you can redownload and compile/install then make uninstall07:46
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yanis__null: in what users on ssh-server machine do I put the public key07:46
TCTCHI cant format it in windows for fat32 only for ntfs because its an usb extern hd07:46
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TCTCHI have to do it in linux07:46
meepyAh okay, so in all I need to save all my sources I download?07:46
mwemeepy: not all source packages provides make uninstall though, but most do07:46
_nullyanis_, in the user you log in with07:46
yanis__null: neither root neither my simple user have an .ssh dir07:46
TCTCHgparted? i will try it07:46
mjrFAT32 actually supports drives that size, but you have to mkfatfs it in Linux07:46
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_nullyanis_, create it and do chmod 700 on it07:47
mwemeepy: no just use checkinstall instead07:47
yanis_ok07:47
TCTCHmkfatfs in linux?07:47
mjrI think Windows will refuse to create a FAT32 that big :)07:47
TCTCHwhat that?07:47
gnomefreakJoe4,  is it an NE2000 with a D10022 rev5 chipset?07:47
KyralCheckInstall is evil07:47
j2daoshhey... got a question...with vnc anyone with a packet sniffer can see whats going on huh?07:47
mwemeepy: instead of sudo make install you just type sudo checkinstall07:47
meepymwe, stupid question: using checkinstall so I then target the .tar.gz folder or the files itself?07:47
polpakmkfatfs is the command to format a device to fat3207:47
mjroops, mkdosfs/mkfs.vfat07:47
TCTCHrefuse?? hope not!!07:47
j2daoshits not encrypted or nothing is it?07:47
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gnomefreaknm forget the above07:47
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Kyralj2daosh: normally VNC is not encrypted07:48
Juhazyeah, windows will refuse to create it on purpose... guess the idea of filesystem well supported by all platforms didn't sit very well with them07:48
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TCTCHno encryped07:48
Smoked1I have always used freebsd and debian. What packaging system does ubuntu use?07:48
mjrTCTCH, it's not a problem since you can create the FS on Linux, and use it on both07:48
j2daoshdang... ok... but ssh is right?07:48
Drakenmwe: it was some error about password cant get ip address07:48
TCTCH...hmm..shit07:48
Joe4ok my nic card is a Realtek RTL8201CL07:48
polpakSmoked1, it uses deb07:48
mwemeepy: you ./configure and make as usual. at the point where you would sudo make install you would then sudo checkinstall instead07:48
meepyaaah07:48
TCTCHmjr: how can I greate it in linux?07:48
meepyThanks!07:48
Drakenmwe: it was some error about password cant get ip address07:49
j2daoshKyral, ssh is encrypted though right?07:49
eppwhere is the samba folder located on the filesystem?07:49
Kyralj2daosh: yah07:49
Joe4ok my nic card is a Realtek RTL8201CL07:49
mjrTCTCH, with mkdosfs, as said07:49
gnomefreaki see every other nic card made by them but that one :( lol07:49
Kyralj2daosh: just use FreeNX07:49
Smoked1Will ubuntu run well on my inspiron 6000?07:49
j2daoshand with ssh i have multiple users logged in at once?07:49
Joe4damn07:49
Joe4fucking asrock07:49
mweDraken: error about password? that indicates you provided the wrong password I would guess07:49
TCTCHmjr: ahh..ok07:49
yanis__null authorized_keys is a dir that contains the client.pub , right?07:49
_nullno07:49
Joe4i guess i should just buy a new nic card?07:49
pashawepp,    /etc/samba07:49
gnomefreakJoe4,  wait a few more things ill check07:49
_nullyanis_, .ssh/authorized_keys is a file07:49
Joe4ok great07:49
_nulleach line has one key07:49
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j2daoshwhen i connect using ssh is the display shown on the server computer or when i port it does it just show up on the client computer?07:50
gnomefreakJoe4, it is wired right?07:50
epppashaw, thx man07:50
yanis__null ok07:50
Joe4as in onboard, yea07:50
Drakenmwe: tyhe password is fine07:50
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mweDraken: and you configured the account correctly?07:51
pashawj2daosh,   for guides you can google    vnc over ssh07:51
j2daoshty07:51
Kyralj2daosh: just use FreeNX07:51
pashawj2daosh,   agreed freeNX is sweet07:52
epppashaw, i meant to ask where the list of local copmuters are.07:52
pashawepp,    i dont understand the question07:52
gnomefreakJoe4,  when you get access to ubuntu open terminal and type lspci if it doesnt list your nic than you might need drivers for it for that command you dont need to be online07:52
Kyralj2daosh: Imagine faster than VNC over ANY connection, and encrypted through SSH07:52
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polpakepp, what you really want to do is get smbfs and then mount your shares to the local filesystem07:52
Kyralon fast enough conns you can even forward multimedia07:53
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Joe4ok thnx, brb07:53
Kyralthough thats best done through a LAN07:53
epppolpak, exactly! how would i go about doing that?07:53
gnomefreakhb07:53
polpakepp, sudo apt-get install smbfs07:53
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j2daoshok... anyone got a link to seeting up ssh... i just tried to ssh to my ubuntu box but it wont let me so i think it isn't set up yet07:54
polpakepp, then sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=remote-user,uid=local-user,gid=local-user //share-host/share-dir local-dir07:55
j2daoshwhat do i do? sudo apt-get install ssh?07:55
kemikj2daosh:  just install open-sshd07:55
kemikor even opensshd07:55
j2daoshopen sshd07:55
trappistj2daosh: won't let you as in permission denied? connection refused? timeout? command not found?07:55
j2daoshall one word?07:55
j2daoshconnection refused07:55
polpakepp, then it'll prompt you for your sudo password, then it will prompt you for the remote user password07:55
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j2daoshi have the forwarding set up for 2207:55
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kemikj2daosh:  one word or with the "-"07:55
j2daoshi just think i dont have it setup07:55
kemikj2daosh:  use the search function07:55
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j2daoshbut i thought it was when ubuntu was installed... guess not though07:56
trappistopenssh-server07:56
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kprv kp_sacher07:56
polpakepp, I'm actually in the process of writing a gtk app that will help manage smb shared directories in this fashion, but it'll be a few more weeks before it's presentable07:56
j2daoshok imma run downstairs real quick,.. ill be back on here in a sec07:56
egilHow to download a secure page like the following one with wget ? => https://www.chant.org/scripts/chant/icb_result.asp?flag=in&title=H01106+%A5%BF07:56
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egilI can watch it in firefox with no problem07:56
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polpakwget url07:56
Badm4nhello07:57
trappistegil: wget gives you a hint in the output07:57
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epppolpak, sounds great is there a project website?07:57
j2daoshok back now07:57
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polpakepp, not currently. I haven't really done the sourceforge thing before.07:57
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mwepolpak: a gtk like what smb4k does in kde?07:58
polpakepp, if you want to msg me your email addy I'll let you know when I have something ready for testing07:58
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Yonmwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error07:58
Yonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638207:58
yanis__null: you told me to enable an option in ssh-config,do you know what is that?I cant findee it..07:58
polpakmwe, I don't know.. What does smb4k do?07:58
_nullyanis_, mom07:58
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egilwget gives me the error msg => WARNING: Certificate verification error for www.chant.org: unable to get local issuer certificate07:58
mwepolpak: it manages your smb mounts07:58
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gnomefreakBadm4n, you want to change the $ to a # ?07:59
_nullyanis_, PubkeyAuthentication yes07:59
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Badm4nno07:59
Badm4ni mean the color07:59
j2daoshok im getting sshd now07:59
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macis there some way I can diagnose where Xorg is spending its cycles?  For the past 10 minutes it's been chewing up 50% of the CPU time solid, and yet I'm not doing/displaying anything cpu-intensive...07:59
polpakmwe, ah.. yes. Esentially07:59
polpakmwe, I didn't realize someone was working on something like it already07:59
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coNPmwe: with nautilus you can browse Samba, can't you?08:00
Yonmwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error08:00
j2daoshi just used the synaptic manager to install it but i dont see it in my applications list... where is it at?08:00
Yonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638208:00
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polpakcoNP, yes, but many programs need the smb directory mounted to the real file system rather than as a vfs share08:00
Badm4nanyone have idea about that ?08:00
mwepolpak: sounds great with a gtk app that does it though. not everyone has the kde/qt libs installed. good luck with it08:00
gnomefreakj2daosh, not all apps make a menu listing what app is it?08:00
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j2daoshsshd08:00
pashawBadm4n,   http://www2.linuxjournal.com/article/321508:00
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Yonmwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error08:01
Yonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638208:01
epppolpak, distortedvoice@gmail.com08:01
trappistegil: and what does it say right after that08:01
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gnomefreakj2daosh, apt-get locate sshd should give you the path08:01
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j2daoshok08:01
bobcathello everyone...  I got a newbie question... I accidently deleted the default gnome panel (at the top of the screen).  So, I figured out how to add a new one, but can't figure out how to make it show what processes are running like the default did on the right side???08:01
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j2daoshlocate isn't a valid commad fr apt-get08:02
deltronapt-cache search08:02
polpakmwe, well since the smb4k is open source it will no doubt speed up my development time08:02
mweYon: are you positive you configured all options in the account correctly?08:02
trappistsudo apt-get install openssh-server08:02
thoegerbobcat: you mean the list of windows?08:02
Yonmwe, to my knowledge yes08:03
Iga hi, could someone help me ? I upgraded Hoary towards Breezy with its cd 1hour ago, but I seem to have many problems08:03
mweYon: I haven't used kppp in a few years but I had it working back then08:03
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Yonlots of sahit i just left because they not nin windows so i dont know wtf lol Rofl08:03
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gnomefreaksorry its just locate sshd08:03
gnomefreakno apt-08:03
bobcatthoeger:  you know when you have a app running, you will get the icon on the panel showing is running.  for example, when i am running limewire, i get a limewire icon on the right side of the panel..08:03
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eppsudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=forum //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC08:04
gnomefreakIga,  what kind of problems08:04
Igafor example, Open Office 2.0 seems not to have been installed08:04
bobcatactually, i am not even sure if that is really part of the panel.. i just no when i deleted the default panel, everything is gone08:04
epppolpak, i have it mounted... now how do i add it to fstab?08:04
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thoegerbobcat: Ah, know what you mean - I'm running a danish locale though, gotta recall the english term for it :$08:04
ossielook whos back :)08:04
gnomefreakIga,  you dont have openoffice in your menu?08:04
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mweYon: it sound to me like you're using a wrong authentication method. please double check the auth method again08:05
polpakepp, you forgot to pass the uid and gid options08:05
thoegerbobcat: Yes, nothing is 'part' of the panel, a panel is just a 'board' that you can pin whatever you want to...08:05
polpakepp it will make it difficult for your normal user to modify the files08:05
pashaw!tell Iga about OOo208:05
epppolpak, /j #intent.08:05
vilefridgeHello :) I've just installed madwifi-ng and I'm now trying to get the new 0.4.7 wpa_supplicant installed.  This is my first compile from source.. and I'm having some issues.  I'm getting this error when doing make: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status08:05
vilefridgemake: *** [wpa_supplicant]  Error 108:05
vilefridge      I have no idea what this means or how to procede.  Any clues?08:05
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Igano I don't08:06
Igasince I upgraded towards Breezy08:06
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Yonmwe: i need binutils for 64 linux, for my nvidia drivers, can u help me08:06
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trappistvilefridge: the useful part of the output is before that stuff08:06
polpakepp, as for fstab you just need to specify those same options, and the fstype and it should work fine08:06
gnomefreakIga,  did you upgrade by changing the repos in sources.list file? or burn cd08:06
gnomefreak?08:06
mweYon: I thought you had a dial up problem :)08:06
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trappistvilefridge: very likely you just need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:06
Yonmwe: got two problems,  :P08:07
epppolpak, sorry to paste, but it looks like this. sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=forum //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC08:07
thoegerbobcat: right-click; add to panel, notification area...08:07
gnomefreakdidnt vilefridge  just remove linux headers?08:07
Yonwhere can i get binutils for 64bit08:07
mweYon: binutils is already installed or your system would not be working08:07
thoegerbobcat: AFAIR anyway08:07
vilefridgeYeah, I just removed linux-headers.. I was following this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10543708:08
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yanis__null: I made everything as you told me but it keeps on asking for password08:08
pashawIga, apt-get install openoffice.org    or openoffice.org208:08
vilefridgetrappist: there's hundreds of lines of output.. what am I after?08:08
bobcatthanks... i didn't even see that one towards the bottom of the list08:08
polpakepp, not in the fstab, but that's the correct command. You should probably pass uid=epp,gid=epp also if you want to be able to modify, etc the files on the share08:08
yanis__null: maybe I must use an option whe I run ssh client?08:08
_nullhm08:08
pashawIga,   you can apt-cache search openoffice.org08:08
Igagnomefreak: I used the breezy cd08:08
_nulltry ssh -v08:08
eppk08:08
gnomefreakpashaw, OOo is a default app it should be there08:08
trappistvilefridge: somewhere in there, probably the first error, should be something about somefile.h: no such file or directory08:09
epppolpak so do u have to add the sudo?08:09
gnomefreakbreezy doesnt have OOo2 unless you add the repo08:09
pashawgnomefreak,   she upgraded i think   didnt upgrade what she didnt have install previous maybe?08:09
mweYon: however, for your dial up problem, edit your account and double check the authentication method in the settings08:09
ossiehi guys, can anyone tell ne hwo to upgrade to dapper?08:09
rabbit1I've got gmail-notifier and I'd like it to run when ubuntu starts..   how  can I do that?08:09
j2daoshok once i get ssh connected and configured (already did that) what is the command to port the gui?08:09
Yonmwe: when i try install my new nvidia drivers it says it cant use ID and its because i dont have binutils08:09
gnomefreakIga, is that your only problem?08:09
polpakepp, no08:09
Kyralj2daosh: ssh -X08:09
mweYon: what's dpkg -l|grep binutils say?08:09
IgaI think there are no others08:10
gnomefreakrabbit1,  in the guide in the help icon under tricks and tips will show you how08:10
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j2daoshssh -X User@Domain:22 ?08:10
rabbit1gnomefreak: thanks08:10
gnomefreakyw rabbit108:10
Kyralyou don't need the :2208:10
Badm4nfrom /etc/profile whre i should put my own PS1 ? top ..bottom or somewhere ?08:10
j2daoshand that will port the gui?08:10
Kyraland you'd ahve to start each proggy manunally08:10
Kyralnot the Desktop08:10
j2daoshso if i needed to use xchat to get something figured out is would work08:11
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eppk08:11
polpakepp, in fstab it should just be //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC  smbfs username=administrator,password=forum,uid=epp,gid=epp 0 008:11
Yonmwe: it says binutils-static, and statically linked binutils tools08:11
pashawossie,   you sure your ready for dapper?    breezy has sent you in here alot already08:11
steveO_OfficeLOL08:11
ossieyes please pashaw , ehehhe08:11
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j2daoshok assuming i was at work... i ssh to my computer at home... what is the command i am gonna use to port whatever program i was to run08:11
j2daosh?08:11
vilefridgetrappist: pasted here --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638308:11
ossieive been back to suse and nw im back to tackle dapper08:11
Yonmwe: it says binutils-static, and statically linked binutils tools08:11
mweYon: well did you install build-essential?08:11
gnomefreakossie, its no where near safe yet08:11
pashawossie,  i cant help you anyway i dont use testing versions      have enough to fix08:11
jazwecplease i have a problem with my sound card..my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me08:11
Yoni didnt do anything08:11
ossieno problem08:11
thoegerbobcat: anytime... Good idea to address the one you're writing to though, one single message easily drowns in here :)08:12
Yonsince instaLLING ubuntu08:12
ossiei dont mind if its not safe08:12
ossieim a test pilot08:12
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Yonhow do i install build-essential08:12
mweYon: get build-essential if you intend to compile anything08:12
gnomefreaki was there i came back to breezy too many things are not working08:12
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bobcatok got another newbie question...  I have always worked with windows, and needed a change.  Anyways, i built this box and loaded ubuntu on it and having fun with it...  I am thinking about getting a MAC powernotebook and just wondering am i in for a beating trying to network a MAC with a Ubuntu box...08:12
ossiegnome what did u have problems with08:12
IgaWell, what have I to do ? When I tried breezy's live cd, OO2 was installed08:12
Yonmwe: from where. can i apt-get ot ?08:13
ossiecos my main issue is my raid card that i have been told is supprted in dapper, if that works smotthly then im sorted08:13
rabbit1gnomefreak: where's tips and tricks : S08:13
mweYon: yeah. sudo apt-get install build-essential08:13
thoegerbobcat: I havent tried, but in theory it shouldn't be hard -08:13
pashawj2daosh,    google those guides  they will explain everything   with screenshots on some08:13
axisysany good app on accounting?08:13
gnomefreakfirst off upgrade wont work off bat you have to use breezy locales than upgrade the locales to dapper thats just one08:13
j2daoshKyral, what would i have to do? ssh to the box... type xterm... then load up xchat?08:13
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mweYon: it'll provide compiler, linker, etc.08:13
gnomefreakrabbit1,  one sec let me bring it up08:13
Badm4nfrom /etc/profile whre i should put my own PS1 ? top ..bottom or somewhere ? ...08:13
j2daoshok ill give that a shot pashaw08:13
gnomefreakgnome panel crashes in dapper08:14
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ossieapt-get gnomefreak what u mean locales??08:14
axisysi like to collect my bank statements and like to feed them to a accounting app and like to generate some graphs, trends08:14
pashawBadm4n,   read that guide i gave you08:14
Kyraljdier: you'd just type "XChat"08:14
gnomefreakossie,  you see my point now?08:14
mweYon: however, you need to use the same compiler version that your kernel was built with08:14
axisysi already have the bank statements but now looking for a good accounting app08:14
gnomefreakits in alpha stage not testing stage08:14
ossieyes, but i wanna have a crack at it gnomefreak08:14
mweYon: did you read the nvidia wiki?08:14
ossiewhat do i need to do ?08:14
thoegerbobcat: How would you do the networking you mean?08:15
bobcatthoeger:  Yea, that is what I am thinking... But I think I am going to brush up on my networking skills with Linux before conquering that one - :)08:15
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mwe!tell Yon about nvidia08:15
gnomefreakossie,  than my advice to you would be to burn the iso for it08:15
vilefridgetrappist: pasted here --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638308:15
pashawossie,   my advice is your not ready for a broekn version08:15
gnomefreakossie, the locales problem happens right off bat if you dont know what they are you cant fix it08:16
thoegerbobcat: great idea. I'm running breezy on my iBook myself... That's another challenge for you! ;-)08:16
ossieyes , but this version is broken from my point of view cos i cant use a major bit of my comp, my 4 ide harddrives, know what i mean?08:16
bobcatthoeger:  Ideally I would like to have the linux box as just a big file server.  So, I would want to save files from the MAC onto it..  Also, I think it would be cool if i could remote to the linux box from the mac....08:16
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ossieok gnomefreak08:16
gnomefreakossie,  and you think that dapper is gonna help that?08:16
ossieif its one of them situations ill skip it08:17
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ossieyes dapper has the driver built in for my ide drives08:17
bobcatthoeger:  so you have a dual boot on the ibook08:17
antdengineerwhats the command to switch the system defualt JRE?08:17
pashawaxisys,   thats a very general question your better off using google for    linux accounting08:17
kemikbobcat:  use samba08:17
kemik?08:17
thoegerbobcat: yup08:17
ossieok gnomefreak08:17
Yonmwe: no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel, can u plz help me bru08:17
gnomefreakossie,  have you tried the backports to dapper instead?08:17
mweYon: did you read the nvidia wiki?08:17
axisyslooks like gnu cash is one to try08:17
_nullyanis_, does it work?08:17
axisyspashaw: thnx08:17
antdengineerwhere is shows a menu of JREs08:17
Yonerrpl z help me08:17
Yon!nvidia08:17
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:17
antdengineerand you choose one08:17
thoegerbobcat: running Mac-on-Linux somtimes... not often though, it usually takes too long to boot to bother08:18
Badm4npashaw : i did08:18
mweYon: please read that08:18
ossiegnomefreak, how does that work08:18
Badm4nbut i can find out where i must put it on08:18
Yonmwe: come on dude, its like 1200 paghes08:18
mweYon: or I'll basically be quoting it anyway08:18
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gnomefreakubotu tell ossie about sources08:18
Yonquoting is fine08:18
mweYon: um what are you talking about08:18
polpakmwe, odd08:18
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ossiecheers gnomefreak08:18
mweYon: it's easier for you to read it that for me to retype it here08:19
yanis__null: no it doesnt. is it necessary the two users (server &client) have the same name?08:19
polpakmwe, I was looking at smb4k, but it doesn't seem to work right08:19
MalachiHow can I connect to a Windows network through VMWare?08:19
Yonmwe: im using kubuntu, i dont have the menus thwey talk of08:19
gnomefreakossie,  i would advise you not to go with dapper for a few more months08:19
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_nullyanis_, no, if you ssh -l with the correct username, it should work08:19
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antdengineerwell then how does one just change the defualt JRE?08:19
MalachiI can use Samba to connect to my host, but not to my host's network.08:19
ossieok cheers gnomefreak08:19
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mwepolpak: really? it works here. I compiled the cvs version myself though, but IIRC the ubuntu version worked too08:19
hackeronif I install ubuntu 5.04, can I easily upgrade to 5.10?08:20
trappistvilefridge: sorry, you also need these: http://ieee80211.sf.net08:20
polpakmwe, it can't mount stuff because it says smbmount needs to be suid, but when I set it suid smbmount complains that it wont run if the program is suid08:20
bobcatthoeger:  I see..  Well, i added ubuntu on my brothers pc running windows xp..  And we just partitioned the drive, created free space for the linux side, and that was pretty easy..  So, I would hope doing the dual boat on a Mac would be just as easy, but I have no experience with Macs... Just want to play around with one...  People say once you have one, you never go back08:20
gnomefreakossie, also if you go to packages.ubuntu.com and look in the backports section it will tell you if your drivers are there08:20
j2daoshok08:20
thoegerantdengineer: what do you mean by defaoult?08:20
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j2daoshit isn't working08:20
j2daoshi cant seem to connect to my box08:20
pashawBadm4n,   reasd the 5th paragraph    this area> modify the ~/.bashrc file by adding the new definition of PS108:20
polpakmwe, in the first case smb4k complains that smbmount isn't suid08:20
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j2daoshim using freenx... when i try to tonnect it gets pass the first encryption but then fails on the sec08:20
polpakmwe, in the second smbmount complains that it is itself suid08:20
superchode|fuhey guys. i had a working X window going on my windows box running a gnome-session from the ubuntu box. i closed it so i could resize it and add scrollbars, etc. - but now i can't launch a new gnome-session? any idea why that might be?08:21
j2daoshdo i need to make a different dsa/rsa key?08:21
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gnomefreakto reconfig java that ubuntu uses sudo update-alternatives --config java08:21
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pashawMalachi,   thats a VMWare forum question  not Ubuntu  :(08:21
yanis__null: do you have any ide what can be wrong?08:21
mweYon: it's telling you how to enable the restricted repos08:21
hackeronanyone? if I install ubuntu 5.04, can I easily upgrade to 5.10?08:21
polpakmwe, the only way around it its to run smb4k as root (with gksudo smb4k) but that in turn causes the mounted files to be in roots home directory08:21
polpakmwe, which is not desirable either08:21
Malachipashaw: I'm sorry.08:22
steveO_Officehackeron, y not just install 5.10?08:22
thoegerbobcat:  If the choice is Win and OS X; you're perfectly right.08:22
_nullyanis_, no sorry. can you create a user for me?08:22
hackeronsteveO_Office: friend is over, downloading 5.10 will take hours08:22
Badm4nyes i saw that pashaw .... but i mean for all user... did i must put all it one by one ?08:22
pashawhackeron,   rather poijntless to install and old one  then upgrade   just install the newer one08:22
rabbit1psst  gnomefreak, tips and tricks?08:22
ossiepashaw, how long u been on ubuntu?08:22
polpakmwe, What I was planning to do for the gtk app was have the app run via sudo but mount/umount everything to the SUDO_USERNAME users home dir08:22
j2daoshok...08:22
mweYon: do you have restricted in /etc/apt/sources.list? eg the word 'restricted' following the archieve you're using08:22
yanis__null: ok08:22
polpakmwe, which will solve those problems08:22
j2daoshit is failing at the pub auth... how do i fix that?08:23
pashawossie,    debian hmm 8-9 years  Ubuntu  hmm  few months08:23
Yonmwe: wat are u talking about08:23
mwepolpak: I set the files suid root as it recommends08:23
hackeronpashaw: friend came over unexpectedly, only have 5.04 and downloading 5.10 will take hours. If its easy to upgrade he can do that at home08:23
ossiecool,08:23
Yonmwe: i downloaded these nvidia drivers seprate08:23
steveO_Officehackeron, yon can do a up grade but that to will take you hrs for you will need to change your source list and ect.08:23
thoegerbobcat: There are some trouble running linux on the Mac though - but hopefully they will be history once the Macintels are out...08:23
pashaw!tell hackeron about breezy08:23
pashawhackeron,  fair enough08:23
Smoked1What xwindows system do you guys suggest? I usually use command line.08:23
mweYon: you shouldn't or you'll get a lot more trouble than you need08:24
hackeronpashaw: thanks :)08:24
bobcatthoeger:  do you know when they are suppose to be releasing those08:24
j2daoshanyone?08:24
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trappisthackeron: do I remember you from #mandrake from years ago?08:24
Yonwaty u mean risttied08:24
steveO_Officehackeron, are you on high speed?08:24
mweYon: I'm talking about /etc/apt/sources.list like I said08:24
thoegerNope - everyone on the Mac forums are guessing wildly....08:24
steveO_Officeit only taks me 20 mins to down load08:24
thoegerthat was to bobcat08:24
hackerontrappist: last I've been there was many years ago :)08:24
Yonmwe: wat mustnt be restricted08:25
hackeronsteveO_Office: well, I'm on 1mb, he's on 2mb at home08:25
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bobcatthoeger:  i was waiting for the G5 on the notebooks, but that hasn't come out yet... Starting to get impatient...:)08:25
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steveO_OfficeWOW that sucks I would wait for the 5.1008:25
mweYon: please look at that file in your favorite editor using sudo. eg sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:25
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hackeronsteveO_Office: hmm, ok -- now to find a way to entertain him for a while, lol08:26
thoegerbobcat: Apple are very secretive about it. They sue the guts out of anyone with rumours coming too close to the truth if the news get out just one day in advance08:26
polpakmwe, I did that, but then even if I run smbmount manually it says08:26
polpakmwe, /usr/bin/smbmount //terran/chads /home/chads/Desktop/chads-terran/ -o username=chads08:26
mweYon: then tell me if the word restricted is present somewhere after your ubuntu mirror url08:26
polpakmwe, libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.08:26
jazwecplease i have a problem with my sound card..my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me08:26
thoegerbobcat: Everyone got impatient. IBM's lacking ability to get temperature down on the G5's was one of the main reasons Apple switched to Intel CPUs08:27
steveO_OfficeLOL08:27
pashawBadm4n,   read this also http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=169504&seqNum=12&rl=108:27
Yonmwe: some things are restricted08:27
j2daoshanyone in here use freenx and ever had a problem with publickey authentication failing?08:27
mwepolpak: my smbmount is not suid08:27
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polpakmwe, oh.. you mean that smb4k is suid?08:27
gnomefreakrabbit1, #3 in the tips and tricks section08:27
TappadHi, noobie question... Is there any way to make the "Archive manager" to work with .rar-files?08:27
mwepolpak: no smbmnt08:27
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mwepolpak: not smbmount08:28
rubemfile:///mnt/e/opaweb/WEB-INF/lib/jstl.jar08:28
rubemfile:///mnt/e/opaweb/WEB-INF/lib/standard.jar08:28
rubemopws...08:28
rubemhow can a make a read-only file writable?08:28
Yonmwe: some things are restricted08:28
gnomefreakgedit08:28
j2daoshanyone?08:28
gnomefreakdksudo or sudo08:28
coNPrubem: for you or foll anyone?08:28
mweYon: please paste your sources.list at pastebin08:28
rabbit1gnomefreak: where's the tips and tricks section?08:28
gnomefreak#308:28
Yonits not another computer mwe08:28
rubemcoNP for me...08:28
gnomefreakrabbit1,  your on breezy?08:29
rabbit1gnomefreak:  yeah, I click on the life raft?08:29
rabbit1thingy..08:29
coNPrubem: command line or nautilus?08:29
gnomefreakyeah than the guide than the tips and tricks08:29
jazwecplease could anybody help me with sound blaster audigy 2 zs?08:29
j2daoshKyral, u still here?08:29
Badm4ndone08:29
rubemkonqueror08:29
rubemcoNP konqueror08:29
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egilwget gives me the error msg => WARNING: Certificate verification error for www.chant.org: unable to get local issuer certificate08:29
gunfushell08:29
gunfusoo08:29
gunfusI meant hello08:29
Badm4nthx08:29
gunfusnot hell08:30
gunfusops08:30
Tappadplease? it's impossible?08:30
rabbit1gnomefreak: sweet!08:30
mweYon: what do you mean it's not another computer?08:30
gnomefreakyou got it?08:30
trappistegil: dammit man.  what does it say right after that.08:30
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pashawgnomefreak,   please  type the username your helping08:30
coNPrubem: right click on file (/folder) and permissions tab08:30
Yonim on my windows computer, linux is next to me08:30
HappufSome here knows why ubuntus diskmanager sets root acces to NTFS partition?08:30
mweYon: I want to look at your sources.list08:30
gnomefreakrabbit1,  you go tit?08:30
HappufI cant change them afterwards.08:30
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pashawBadm4n,   now your a Bash pro  :)08:30
gnomefreakrabbit you got it*?08:30
j2daoshhow do i make my public key not fail using freenx????08:31
Yonmwe: all i got uncommented it breezy-updates, and they are restricted08:31
gunfushey guys, I justdid a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution08:31
rabbit1gnomefreak: yeah :P08:31
gunfusany suggesitosn?08:31
egiltrappist: I lost your message... could  you please copy-paste it ? (someone came to talk with me... i'm sorry)08:31
pashawHappuf,    you can set user read to ntfs  but  not write    that what you want08:31
gunfus32308:31
polpakmwe, ah.. I have it now08:31
Happufpashaw: tell me how. I have tried.08:31
Yonmwe: all i got uncommented it breezy-updates, and they are restricted08:31
trappistegil: I said, what does it say right after what you pasted08:32
pashaw!tell Happuf about ntfs08:32
mweYon: do you have a line that says deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted or something like that, the word restricted being the important one08:32
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Badm4nty pplz08:32
Yoni nhave one with restricted, but its commented ( not in use ### )08:32
mwepolpak: good. you need to set smbumount suid root as well08:32
Tappadneed help with extracting .rar's.. please08:32
pashawHappuf,   scroll down to this section    "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table"08:32
Happufpashaw: happu wants to thank you :)08:32
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gunfusany suggesitosn?08:33
gunfushey guys, I justdid a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution08:33
pashawHappuf,    replace the fstab    ntfs line  "defaults"  to     those line lines like "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"08:33
mweYon: don't copy the line I pasted verbatim into your sources.list though08:33
Happufpashaw: I dont have it fstab.08:34
polpakmwe, excellent. Not only does this solve my immediate problems, but it will make it much easier to develop the gtk version =p08:34
Happufpashaw: I used diskmanager.08:34
Yoni nhave one with restricted, but its commented ( not in use ### )08:34
j2daoshanyone.... ssh help please and thank you08:34
Unitywhat is the safest way of taking smbd off the startup?08:34
Happufpashaw: but I'll try that script.08:34
egiltrappist: it downloads the file and then, no prompt anymore, that's actually my pb08:34
Yonmust backports be no ## ?08:34
mweYon: yeah. type restricted at the end of the line containg your favorite archieve08:34
Tappadno help here..08:34
trappistegil: use --no-check-certificate08:35
polpakmwe, ideally I think this should be built into nautellus08:35
gunfusnoone has suggestions..?!08:35
Happufpashaw: oh. I'll try what you succested.08:35
pashawgunfus,   repeating wont help   wait a few minutes       if nobody answers   try again08:35
pashawHappuf, :)08:35
egiltrappist: i tried it, but with the same result08:35
Yonmwe : im using breezy-updates and it is restricted and MAIN08:35
Happufpashaw: the script was not availbe anymore ;)08:36
trappistegil: oh.  also, put single quotes around the url08:36
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pashawHappuf,   you added a new drive since installing ubuntu?08:36
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_TomBanyone here used upower?08:36
egiltrappist: you're great!! thanks a lot!08:36
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thoegergunfus: Sorry; no. My configuration worked fine...08:36
Happufpashaw: nope. It just didnt automount for some reason.08:36
mweYon: you should have a line that says 'deb http://SOMEARCHIVE.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted08:36
mweYon: and possible some other keywords in the end08:37
pashawHappuf,    type   cat /etc/fstab   there are no ntfs lines?08:37
Yonmust that be with no ###08:37
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gunfusthoeger, thanks for at least replying08:37
mweYon: right08:37
sorush20hi guys08:37
Happufpashaw: nope.08:37
rabbit1I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are08:37
Yonomj08:37
Yoni remopved the #08:37
Yonwat now08:37
gunfusanyone else.. has suggestions about what to do..? for my xconfig08:38
mweYon: the ones with # in front count as comments and apt wont read them08:38
gunfusmy experience with ubuntus.. has not really been the greatest08:38
gunfusso far08:38
gunfusI understand I am not the only one with prbolems08:38
Yonok mwe08:38
dooglus"locate" is dumping core for me.  how would I go about building a debuggable version?08:38
thoegergunfus: That is true08:38
Yonso must i know apt-get update again ?08:38
gunfusI am just one more frustrated user.. that needs help08:38
mweYon: yeah. and this is probably too late now, but you should have backed up the original first, just in case. do that now08:39
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j2daoshanyone familiar with freenx and ssh?08:39
Yoni know how to make it go back08:39
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Yonso wat now,. after thisd update must i run the nvidia install AHGAIN ?08:40
cmatheson!tell j2daosh about anyone08:40
mweYon: you must do what the wiki says. let me have a look and quote it for you08:40
gunfushelp..?! I just did a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution08:40
mweYon: first what card do you have?08:40
gunfusredguy, you there man?08:41
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gunfus308:41
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j2daoshim aware of that cm... but when i ask no one answers...so that is why i figured id start with does anyone because then it will get someone attention08:41
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j2daoshassuming they know what im talking about08:41
Yongeforce 6600 gt08:42
cmathesonj2daosh: maybe you should rephrase your question instead08:42
pashawHappuf,    keep reading      youll have to do it manually  youll learn alot tho  "Mounting partitions manually08:42
pashaw"08:42
HappufOK.08:42
HappufThat sucks i guess.. but :D08:42
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mweYon: I'm looking at line 9 of the wiki. let me cut and paste. just a second08:42
j2daoshcmatheson, i dont know any of way to rephrase it... i cant get freenx to connect to my box because it fails at the public auth...08:42
mweYon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx08:43
j2daoshso im gonna need someone with a general knowledge of both ssh and freenx08:43
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j2daoshhence the is anyone familiar with ssh and freenx question08:43
pashawgunfus,   your card and monitor support that res. you can force it manually08:43
gunfuspashaw, yes it does..08:44
cmathesonj2daosh: first of all, you're being too vague, and second of all, this isn't the right channel for freenx questions08:44
gunfuspashaw, how can I force it?08:44
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gnomefreak!freenx08:44
ubotufreenx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX08:44
pashawgunfus,   ill make a pastebin showing how08:44
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Yonok its downloading08:44
gunfuspashaw, thanks..!08:45
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mweYon: goo. In the meantime tell me what you get from 'dpkg -l|grep linux-image08:45
jazwecplease I have Ubuntu 5.10 and i have a problem with my sound card...its Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro and my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me08:46
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Yonwee mwe: i cant, im doing all of this in pure console08:46
dyngnosis_Wow .. huge chan.   a quick question.... I am doing some research on exploit development.  I am overflowing a stack and causing a seg fault.  ...it should core dump but no file is created.. I need to analyze it in gdb.. is there an "option" turned off or am I looking in the wrong spot?08:46
mwe!sound08:46
ubotuI guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:46
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mwejazwec: read that please08:46
revcan anyone help me with dpkg? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6385  this seems not healthy to me :(08:46
Joe4ok guys, I couldnt find my nic or any drivers for it, so i plugged into my dsl modem through usb, how do i configure it now?08:46
j2daoshyeah gnomefreak, that link didn't help08:47
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j2daoshim having problems going from windows using freenx to linux server08:47
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mweYon: press alt-f2 and you get a new one08:47
Yonmwe: ITS DONE08:47
rabbit1I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are08:47
mweYon: good08:47
mweYon: now tell me what you get from 'dpkg -l|grep linux-image'08:47
cmathesonrev: did you delete apt?08:47
revcmatheson: no I didn't delete anything08:48
Joe4how do i set up a usb to dsl modem connection?08:48
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cmathesonrev: it says there are a bunch of missing files~do they really exist?08:48
iveqyhi, I've got a printer problem. I'd add the printer, but when trying to print a testpage I got: ** (gnome-cups-manager:5482): WARNING **: failed request with status 20008:48
mwerev: please paste the error again, preceding your commands with LANGUAGE=C08:48
dyngnosis_Anyone know why I don't get a core file dumped when I get a seg fault?08:49
cmathesonJoe4: i think you'll have more luck if you go w/ the ethernet connection if it has one08:49
Joe4no drivers for my cared08:49
Joe4card*08:49
Yonmwe: linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic   2.6.12-9.2308:49
globeCan I get some help configuring my eth0 ? I can ping my router but any commands that require a nameserver fail.08:49
mweYon: amd64?08:49
Yonand linux kernal image for version 2.6.12 on  x8608:49
ossieanyone use the phillips psc724 soun card08:49
cmathesonglobe: are your nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf?08:49
Yonyes mwe ?08:49
Joe4so has does anyone know how to configure my internet when im going through usb?08:50
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ossiegnome freak , any ideas why i get Failed to construct test pieline in the mutlimedia systems selector08:50
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cmathesonJoe4: i doubt it's possible right now, but i could be wrong.. you'd be much better off sticking a NIC in there08:50
revcmatheson: I get nearly the same missing files showed by strace when I install curl on my notebook but it succeeds08:50
rabbit1I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are08:50
mweYon: I have no idea how to do it on amd64. the wiki doesn't cover that. I don't know if it works just following it anyway. btw is X working at all by now?08:50
globecmatheson: I dont know. And I cant check at the moment .... I had to load win to get in this channel. Do I need to add my local network ns to that file?08:50
Joe4damn08:51
Yonmwe: its the same thing with amd6408:51
Yondont worry08:51
cmathesonglobe: yes, just use whatever nameserver's the other boxen on the network are using08:51
pashawgunfus,   here  reasd this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638608:51
cmathesonglobe: it should be getting that info from DHCP, but it's possible you have a broken DHCP server or something08:51
gunfuspashaw, taking a look08:51
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mweYon: cross your fingers08:52
globecmatheson: I couldnt figure out how to get the nic to fetch an address from the dhcp, so I manually config the nic w/ifconfig.08:52
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mweYon: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k708:52
revmwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638708:52
Joe4you know , my computer doesnt find my nic, yet it sees a hub , wich i guess is my dsl modem, but isnt that through my nic, theirfore it find my nic?08:52
bluntedhey is there a way to remove all the .gz files in a directory without having to do them one by one?08:52
mweYon: no08:52
Unity if i want smbd and nmbd not to start up, i just remove the samba script from /etc/rc2.d?08:52
mweYon: that was wrong thats for amd k708:52
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dyngnosis_globe, sudo dhclient eth008:53
gunfuspashaw, Thanks.. I will give that a try right now..08:53
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dyngnosis_or ath008:53
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cmathesonglobe: ooooh, ok, yeah then you'll just need to add your nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf and it will work08:53
Yonmwe ?08:53
globeblunted: you should be able to "rm *.gz -f"08:53
gunfuspashaw, one more question if I want to install Enlightenment or KDE once I already have ubuntu.. is that possible?08:53
cmathesonglobe: you'll also want to edit /etc/network/interfaces so that you don't have to do this every time you boot up08:53
mweYon: you have an amd64, right?08:53
jazwecmwe but there is no solution for my problem..i just have to change line in1 for line in2 in my system or something like that08:53
pashawgunfus,    ok   make sure you backup  the xorg.conf before you bgin   so you can go back if X wont start i forgot that part08:53
Yonyes mwe08:53
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bluntedlol i so just almost deleted everything in my home messing with rm :D08:53
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dyngnosis_does anyone know why I don't get a core file dumped when I get a seg fault? ... is there an option I need to turn on?08:54
pashawgunfus,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:54
globecmatheson: I am remembering now that the /etc/resolv.conf file didnt exist....should I create it?08:54
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cmathesonglobe: yes08:54
mweYon: then you can't follow the wiki because the restricted modules are not provided for amd6408:54
dyngnosis_hah, are my messages even hitting the chan? or am I being ignored?08:54
jt3kdyngnosis i read you08:54
Yondude, there is no way they are mpt prvoided, we just need the right name08:54
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revI need dpkg :(08:54
dyngnosis_hah, ok man.. thanks.. I dont mean to be impatitent... i just went to an internet cafe to ask this question heh08:54
jt3ki think you have to enable debugging at compiling08:54
eppThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins... when i try to play a video it says this...08:54
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globecmatheson: thx. I am going to go try that....08:55
mweYon: dude they're not. go check with apt-cache search restricted-modules yourself08:55
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pashawdyngnosis_,   if someone knows they are busy  or they dont understand your question like me :P08:55
dyngnosis_jt3k, ok, I'll google that.  at least its a place to start.08:55
jt3khave you done that08:55
j2daoshok... easier question... how do i shared my "shared folder" with a windows system?08:55
bkhas anyone ever heard of problems with the time changing in Windows for a dual-boot system (Windows & Ubuntu)?08:55
cmathesondyngnosis_: yes, you will need to turn something on for core dumps... a quick google would be appropriate in this instance08:55
j2daoshi set it up for smb08:55
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jt3kyou have to compile your programs with the "-g" flag08:55
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j2daoshbut my windows box wont recognize it08:55
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dyngnosis_cmatheson, I wasnt sure what to google for.. core dump ubuntu yielded nothing interesting08:55
jt3kand do some other stuff that i don't remember right now08:55
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bkjt3k, u talking to me?08:56
dyngnosis_cool.. I've got a place to start now.. thanks man08:56
Yonmwe, so how am i going to do this08:56
mweYon: I have no idea08:56
mweYon: probably compile the module yourself. go search the forums08:56
cmathesondyngnosis_: try 'enable linux core dump'08:56
pashawbk,   either your bois battery is reseting the time  or you have the wrong time zones set for Ubuntu or windows08:56
gunfuspashaw, cool thanks.. I will try does.. and backup my xorg.conf08:56
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_Nightwish_hi all!08:57
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HarimwakairiIf I might ask a noob question, what IRC client do most of y'all use?08:57
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pashawgunfus,   good luck08:57
St-hi, dapper current (daily build) has this old bug(29/11/05) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20216 why ?08:57
_Nightwish_i need help08:57
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dyngnosis_cmatheson, no luck .. got a bunch of bash shell errors08:57
pashawHarimwakairi,   using xchat08:57
j2daosh!ubotu tell j2daosh about sharing with samba08:57
dyngnosis_oh, lol. .your suggesting google terms08:57
dyngnosis_*blush(08:58
thoeger_Nightwish_: Bring it on....08:58
cmathesondyngnosis_: it's the first one on the list08:58
thoegerHarimwakairi: XChat....08:58
_Nightwish_how to compile intel driver on ubuntu?08:58
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_Nightwish_when i type make klean08:58
dyngnosis_cmatheson, got it.. reading now.. you're awesome08:58
dyngnosis_thanks so much08:58
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thoeger_Nightwish_:  intel driver?08:59
pashaw_Nightwish_,   intel for what kind of device08:59
Harimwakairipashaw, thoeger: thanks.  That's what I'm using now because it came pre-installed.08:59
rabbit1I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these programs are08:59
pashawHarimwakairi,   it works just dandy08:59
gnomefreakanyone in here using kubuntu-desktop and have issues with apps loading?08:59
thoegerHarimwakairi: Sammer here... :)08:59
_Nightwish_modem08:59
_Nightwish_536Ep08:59
_Nightwish_yea i still have dial-up :(08:59
lucasvohttp://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore08:59
lucasvoanyone know what's wrong?08:59
scainerabbit1, what version are you running?09:00
rabbit1scaine:  breezy09:00
epphow do i add like universe so my apt?09:00
mwe!universe09:00
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource09:00
thoeger_Nightwish_:  What is your problem? What have you tried, and what errrors did you get?09:00
rabbit1scaine: should I keep programs on here up to date??09:00
Yoncan sum 1 help me about setting up the internet, does any1 know wat a pppt error is?09:00
rabbit1scaine:  or just the ones I care about?09:00
epphow do i add like universe so my apt?09:00
gnomefreakrabbit1,  yes it is advised09:00
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scaineThey should just be security updates then.  Unless you added Backports repo, in which case you'll be getting new versions of your currently installed programs.09:00
scaineCan you remember what repos you added?09:01
mweYon: like I said two times, check your auth method in kppp09:01
thoegerepp: easiest in Synaptic09:01
pashawlucasvo,   looks like you messed with your fonts?09:01
eppk09:01
rabbit1gnomefreak: okay09:01
Yonmwe :we have tryed all of them09:01
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mweYon: anyway, since you're probably to lazy to search the forums, here's a link for the nvidia driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507409:02
eppthoeger, whats the adress for it?09:02
scainelucasvo, are you running Dapper?  It has a Locale issue at the moment that screws up the language pack?09:02
thoegerWell, got a little problem, hope you'll be patient.....09:03
thoegerepp09:03
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lucasvolucasvo: yes I am09:03
pashawepp, you just want to add universe and multiverse?09:03
mweYon: I can't help you about being to lazy to read, though09:04
robotgeekexport CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is enuf to force compilation with gcc-3.4 ?09:04
lucasvoscaine: yes I am09:04
Yonmwe : bru im talking about internet not the graphics09:04
gnomefreaklucasvo, look on bugzilla there is a fix for it09:04
eppnevermind09:04
lucasvognomefreak: oh, thanks09:04
scainelucasvo, you should read this :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10844209:04
mweYon: um I just tried to help you with nvidia drivers before09:04
gnomefreaklucasvo, you have to install breezys locales than update them to dappers09:04
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gnomefreakmwe, you have kubuntu-desktop right?09:05
Yonmwe : now draken is reinstalling linux noramal not 6409:05
scainegnomefreak, The link on the Dapper dev forum outlines an easier way...09:05
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Yonmwe : now im trying to get the internet to work09:05
pashawgnomefreak,   i do on my home system09:05
gnomefreakscaine, ok ty i didnt know about that one09:05
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ossiegnomefreak, do u know if my sound card has been detected by alsa , and says alsa cntrolled devicedoes that mean its installed?09:05
gnomefreakdoes kdevelop work under kubuntu 3.5 pashaw ?09:05
lucasvoSWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 109:05
pashawgnomefreak,   doh  got me there09:06
lucasvoscaine: first error I get: mv: cannot stat `/etc/locale.gen': No such file or directory09:06
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gnomefreakossie, im not sitting there looking did you try running lspci or lsmod?09:06
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scainelucasvo, Heh - there's a link about that too - give me a minute and I'll get it for you...09:06
mwegnomefreak: I have kubuntu, why?09:07
ossieit is listed under lspci09:07
pashawossie,   you using dapper?09:07
gnomefreakmwe,  kdevelop isnt launching on 3.5 is that a issue or is it just mine?09:07
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ossieno , breezy09:07
lucasvoscaine: thanks09:07
mwegnomefreak: oh. it works here09:07
geneo93whos the networking guru09:07
dyngnosis_cmatheson, once again -- thanks so much.  I've used ulimit -c unlimited and it has enabled core dumps for the session.  cheers.09:07
gnomefreakossie,  do you have sound?09:08
pashawossie,   lsmod  will tell you if and what module is loaded09:08
ossieno09:08
gnomefreak:( mwe09:08
globecan I get some help configuring X?  "fatal error: no screens found"09:08
cmathesondyngnosis_: great, party on09:08
ossielsmod lists my sound card09:08
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pashawossie,   is it using the correct module?09:08
ossieunder device manager it says , alsa controlled deive and i shows n alsa mixer09:08
gnomefreakossie,  make sure its not mutted and they are turned up a lilbit09:08
mwegnomefreak: what's the error you get if you lanch it from a console?09:08
ossiedone that gnomefreak09:09
ossiebut not getting any sound09:09
cyphaseMark Shuttleworth's picture is on page A4 of the San Franciscio Chronice today09:09
cyphaselol09:09
gnomefreakcannot launch entry: details failed to execute child process kdevelop no such file/dir09:09
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gnomefreakmwe ^^09:09
mwegnomefreak: some packages are broken as in not installing all dependencies. I was wondering if that could be the problem09:09
pinkisntwellwhy don't we have ff 1.5 at the repos?09:09
mwegnomefreak: oh09:09
cyphasea story about the new space tourism rules09:09
ossiewhen i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline09:10
Chousukepinkisntwell: It was released after Ubuntu 5.10.09:10
cyphaseno mention of ubuntu unfourtanetly :P09:10
gnomefreakmwe i just ran sudo apt-get install kdevelop said it was replaced so im installing those packages09:10
pashawglobe,    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:10
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pinkisntwellChousuke: and?09:10
trappistpinkisntwell: new versions of software don't usually go into stable distros.  they backport security patches and bugfixes and put the new software into the upcoming distro (dapper in this case)09:10
gnomefreakpinkisntwell,  its not all that stable for ubuntu yet look for it in the backports in febuaryish09:10
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pashaw!tell pinkisntwell about firefox1.509:10
scainelucasvo, gnomefreak , Apologies to Gnomefreak - here's the link I found.  If you don't have an /etc/locale.gen file, then you'll possibly need to copy from Breezy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978&page=2.  On the other hand, since it's just asking for a backup to be taken, you might want to ignore the mv command in my original post and try installing locales again, followed by the rest of the doc.09:11
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mwegnomefreak: maybe ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop ? It works with the multelanguage version here though09:11
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scainePretty disappointing if you don't have access to a Breezy install though, eh?09:11
sambaseekerhow do  register nick name?09:11
pinkisntwellthanks people09:11
mwegnomefreak: I seem to remember having to make that link in a previous version09:11
naliothubotu: tell sambaseeker about register09:11
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Syche gnomefreak Kdevelop Multilanguage works09:11
pinkisntwellalso, I have another problem, I installed xfce and it works well, but I can't switch keyboard language, how do I do that?09:12
gnomefreakok ty i will check it Syche09:12
ozgurgerillahi all, is there anyone to help?09:12
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pashaw!anyone09:12
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:12
globepashaw, thanks.  I think I am getting somewhere09:13
pashawglobe,    great!09:13
ossiepashaw when i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline09:13
geneo93ok i need help with zonet router firewall will not work with any ubuntu09:13
ozgurgerillaubotu, u feel stupid is you ask a question and you get no answer09:13
ubotuozgurgerilla: okay09:13
mweSyche: just making the symlink I suggested fixes the normal (non multilanguage) kdevelop09:14
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Sychegnomefreak or kdevelop3 from the cmd line09:14
markus-_-how do i upgrade my video card09:14
markus-_-i pulled the old one09:14
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markus-_-and installed the new one09:14
mweSyche: he left, it seems09:14
egilWhen downloading with wget, is it possible to choose another name for the downloaded file ?09:14
Sychegnomefreak: Great09:14
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ozgurgerillai want to install ubunu on the same hard drive as my windows is this ok?09:14
markus-_-but ubuntu doesn't automatically recognize it09:15
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mweSyche: however sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it09:15
gnomefreakok thats strange :( the muli lag. works but a few of them dont09:15
globepashaw, I use a dvorak keyboard: its asking me about my kbd XKB rule set.  do I need to change this?09:15
cmathesonegil: yeah, -o09:15
scainesambaseeker, Here's the link explaining it all : http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering09:15
sambaseekernalioth: thanks09:15
markus-_-you need to partition that hard drive ozgurgerilla .... but that is how mine is set up09:15
mwegnomefreak: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it09:15
Myrttiozgurgerilla: and we really don't know if we can help you so we don't answer to "does/can anyone" questions. I don't know about the majority, but I've lost my wizard hat ;-)09:15
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sambaseekerscaine: thanks i just did09:15
gnomefreaki am09:15
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pashawglobe,   never used that layout id got with the defaults09:15
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mwegnomefreak: you don't need the multilanguage version09:15
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markus-_-help09:16
pinkisntwellwhat the heck is /opt?09:16
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scaineNo worries09:16
gnomefreakok after i ran that mwe i just got a promt it should work now?09:16
globepashaw, thanks....It says its going to use the current kbd settings09:16
markus-_-can i use apt get to update the drivers when the computer boots to shell09:16
cmathesonpinkisntwell: it's for vendors to install their software in09:16
trappistpinkisntwell: generally that's where statically compiled applications go that you got from outside apt09:16
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gnomefreakmwe oh you are good09:16
mwegnomefreak: it still doesn't lauch the ide?09:16
gnomefreakthank you so much :)09:16
gnomefreakmwe it does :)09:16
pashawozgurgerilla,   sometimes you need to be patient  this is volunteer   so sometimes you have to wait a few minutes   then ask again09:16
mwegnomefreak: I think the shortcut is broken09:17
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trappistpinkisntwell: stuff that's portable across distros/versions... that's why I like to make it a separate partition, so I can keep that stuff if I reinstall/upgrade/find a new favorite distro09:17
pinkisntwelland what does "firefox %s" mean?09:17
gnomefreakmwe i think your right now all of the kdevelop apps work :)09:17
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trappistpinkisntwell: %s is a variable containing a url09:17
Sychemve: Thanks for the ln suggestion. Better than having he whole thing09:17
ozgurgerillapashaw, thanks for the advise09:17
pashawozgurgerilla,   but your answer is yes you can   provided you have room to resize or have an empty partition09:17
pinkisntwelltrappist: thanks09:18
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mwegnomefreak: good. I think the symlink is not needed if you fix the shorcut though09:18
pashawozgurgerilla,   all my desktop systems are dual boot with win200009:18
dave_hey can anyone tell me how to update firefox on my new installation? i downloaded the new tarball from the firefox website, but theres no install file and i can't figure out where to un-ball it09:18
gnomefreakmwe,  did you just work on that?09:18
cmatheson!firefox1.509:18
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:18
egilcmatheson: -o is is for the log09:19
mwegnomefreak: work on it? what do you mean?09:19
ozgurgerillaI havent partitioned my hard drive. could there be a software that can partition it without loosing my windows files.09:19
sambaseekerwhat is hot key combination to start terminal?09:19
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pashawossie,    im not a sound card pro     but i only worry about the top test       think i have alsa  alsa   on my home system09:19
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user__hi09:19
gnomefreakmwe with the ln command or it was a try this it should work?09:19
cmathesonegil: -O, check the man-page09:19
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user__it seems that either my superblock or my partitiontable has been crashed09:19
cmathesonozgurgerilla: parted does that09:19
user__e2fsck shows me many errors09:20
user__what can i do?09:20
mwegnomefreak: I seem to remember having to create the symlink in a previous version. I then found out just now fixing the shortcut is sufficient09:20
pashawossie,   alot of these desktop tools are new to me     im CLI oldschool09:20
ozgurgerilladoes parted work on windows?09:20
gnomefreakmwe ok ty ill have to remember that09:20
mwegnomefreak: just change kdevelop to kdevelop3 in the shortcut09:20
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trappistozgurgerilla: you mean does it run in windows, or does it edit windows partition tables?09:20
mwegnomefreak: but we should file a bug report09:20
in54nohow can i install packs of dev like gcc, libs and others?09:20
cmathesonozgurgerilla: it's on the install c09:21
cmathesond09:21
ozgurgerillarun work wat else can u dig from those words?09:21
pashawozgurgerilla,   understand the risks first   but you can use  the Ubuntu liveCD  or knoppix or buy  partitionmagic to resize  but make backups of your files first incase09:21
ozgurgerillaok.09:21
mwegnomefreak: I'm glad it works for you now though09:21
gnomefreakmwe i will file one in a few about it ty again09:21
mwegnomefreak: great09:21
pashawozgurgerilla,   or  add another drive to you system  and leave your windows drive alone   doesnt have to be a large drive either09:22
mwegnomefreak: don't forget to mention fixing the shorcut solves it though ;)09:22
gnomefreaki wont mwe09:22
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in54nohow install packs like gcc, libs and others of develop in ubuntu!?09:22
pashawozgurgerilla,   say  about a 10G drive will last you a long time  unless you save alot of music and videos09:22
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cmathesonin54no: aptitude install build-essential09:22
naliothin54no: install 'build-essential09:23
cmathesonin54no: for the libs you want just install the -dev package09:23
ozgurgerillapashaw: thanks. Im using live cd and i wanna install it now. i think i have to back everything.09:23
skelhas anyone built anything thats needed openal ? I think the openal package is broke. there's no openal-config09:23
in54nocmatheson, ok thanks -dev package?09:23
globepashaw,  THANKYOU!  one last question.  I am using ctrl-alt-f1 to access this screen, and got x to start on f2.  now that I come back to f1, f2 is just text.  Is there a key I have to press to get the gui back?09:23
silbei'm stuck right at the beginning of the installation because I cannot get isolinux to work with my USB keyboard09:23
silbeanyone willing/able to help me?09:23
pashawglobe,    F6 or 7  forgot09:23
ozgurgerillais installing ubuntu difficult?09:23
markus-_-how do i install a new video card in ubuntu09:24
cmathesonin54no: basically any library that is packaged will not include the development lard, so say you wanted to install libsdl1.2 and develop w/ it, you would also install libsdl1.2-dev09:24
markus-_-i installed the card09:24
pashawglobe,   F709:24
markus-_-then it gave me shell09:24
mweglobe: alt-f709:24
ossieplease guys , ive just bought this sound card today and i still aint got no sound, im on suicide watch09:24
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psusiglobe: F2 is just the second tty, it will allways be text... X usually runs on tty709:24
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markus-_-so i used apt get to install the drivers09:24
in54nocmatheson, ok thanks :D:D:D09:24
markus-_-but it still won't boot09:24
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psusiglobe: or whatever the first unused tty is when X starts up09:24
pinkisntwellwhy is ubuntu's ff 1.0.7 so slow?09:24
markus-_-tells me X server is disabled09:24
pinkisntwellI've been reading about this on the forums09:24
pashawossie,   what sound card?09:25
slimneed some wpa help if anyone is available09:25
ossiephillips psc 72409:25
globepashaw. oh man. thanyou so extrodinarily much. I have been working on this for about 4 hours.09:25
cmatheson!tell slim about anyone09:25
markus-_-do i need to reinstall ubuntu?09:25
silbemarkus: just a quick guess: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:25
pashaw!tell slim about wpa09:25
psusipinkisntwell: might not be it... but some people have problems because they have busted routers or ISPs that claim to support IP6, so firefox tries to use that... only they don't really support it so it doesn't work09:25
mwepinkisntwell: yeah. about:config in ff, disable the ipv6 crap09:25
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sambaseekerIs it allowed&possible to add username "user" or i am doing something wrong?09:25
edgarinHI09:25
KenMastershey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638909:25
pashawglobe,     have fun!09:25
edgarinyou have a webcam??09:25
markus-_-no i didi silbe09:25
edgarinI need test the amsn 0.9509:25
edgarinthe webcam09:26
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mwepinkisntwell: also ff 1.5 seems much faster here09:26
edgarinbut I need one person09:26
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edgarinwith webcam09:26
markus-_-so i enter that from shell?09:26
silbemarkus: yep09:26
cmathesonedgarin: hey maybe you could  try typing everything on one line09:26
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart09:26
KenMastersi webcam is Creative PC CAM 35009:26
pinkisntwellI have ipv6 disabled09:26
edgarinok excuseme!!!!!!!!!!!!109:26
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silbemarkus: i don't know whether there's an easier way, but it worked for me yesterday09:26
mwepinkisntwell: about:config confirms that?09:26
edgarinKenMasters: You have msn messenger??09:26
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pinkisntwellmwe: yes09:26
sambaseekerwhat is command to remove user?09:27
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KenMastersnot09:27
mwepinkisntwell: all of it?09:27
cmathesonsambaseeker: deluser09:27
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sambaseekerk09:27
KenMastersi install webcam problem's09:27
KenMastershey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638909:27
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markus-_-silbe09:27
markus-_-it says reconfigure must be run as root09:27
markus-_-what now?09:27
pinkisntwellmwe: what do you mean all of it? it has "disable ipv6" as true09:27
silbetype "sudo" in front of it09:27
pinkisntwellmwe: I disabled it the other day09:27
dave_hi, it says when i try to upgrade firefox that i need libstdc++5... i have tried using the command "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5, but it gives me an error. how do i do this?09:28
cmathesonKenMasters: the software is looking for /dev/video0, you don't have that file09:28
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silbemarkus: i usually login as root for administration tasks, but it seems Ubuntu discourages that, so use sudo09:28
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KenMastersi type "ls /dev/vi*" and not result :-s09:28
cmathesonKenMasters: yes, because you don't have that file09:28
mwepinkisntwell: look at this too: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8007.htm09:28
cmathesonKenMasters: you don't have the hardware set up for /dev/video0 (i'm not familiar w/ what that is... tv card?)09:29
KenMastersSince I install the file?09:29
KenMastersis a webcam09:29
dave_apt-get says "Unable to lock the download directory" how do i fix this?09:29
KenMastersview in paste09:29
KenMastersin lsusb09:30
markus-_-32 mb is = to 32000 kb right09:30
markus-_-lol09:30
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ossieany ideas pashaw09:30
KenMasters041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd09:30
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rodhi09:30
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psusimarkus-_-: no... kb = 1024 bytes... mb = 1024 kb... etc09:31
dereks_does anyone else have a problem with sbackupd not actually backing up? it automatically goes defunct?09:31
rodhow to make the computer shut itself down in 30 minutes?09:31
rodautomagicly09:31
calamarihi09:31
revrod: sudo shutdown -h 3009:31
pashawossie,   did you verify the correct module is loaded for that card i never saw your answer09:31
rodmerci rev09:31
psusisometimes crazy people like to say kb = 1000 and KB or KiB = 1024... but they usually work for hard drive marketing departments so they say that to make their drives look bigger than they really are ;)09:31
terry_I am trying to move grub from my original hd(hda) to my new sata drive(sda).  Is there an easy way??  The reason being, I want to erase the other drive, while still maintaining my system as is09:31
ossieit comes up as a via , but i think the chipset is via09:32
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EleafHi09:32
trappistrod: shutdown -h +3009:32
trappistoops09:32
calamarimy computer just locked up, so I had to restart it.. back when I was plain ext2, this would mean a long fs check on reboot... but now with ext3, it is saying the fs was clean... did the journal help me or hurt me here?09:32
rod^^09:32
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rodHow to make any one else's computer shut down on a specific time?09:32
ossiei dont know how to check its the right module , pashaw09:32
pashawossie,   that sound card is not via09:32
Eleafhow do I mount my hard drive with the livecd?  I did mount /dev/hda /mnt/ but it says I need to specify a file system type..09:32
trappistrod: ssh someother box shutdown -h +3009:33
ossiepashaw, i belive it has a via chipset09:33
psusicalamari: that's what the journal is for09:33
EleafI don't know the format to put the file format for the command in09:33
Eleaflol09:33
calamaripsusi: cool :)09:33
pashawossie,   google   card model        like this     model# linux        or try  adding module09:33
psusiEleaf: you have to specify the filesystem type... add a -t type... like -t ext309:33
rodtrappist, what's the name of your box?09:33
pashawossie,   find what works for others  then you compare to yours09:33
trappistEleaf: hda is a hard drive.  you want to mount a partition, like hda109:33
trappistrod: grasshopper09:34
cmathesonEleaf: is /dev/hda really not partitioned?09:34
trappistgrasshopper.linuxkungfu.org09:34
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psusiEleaf: what trappist said too...09:34
trappistEleaf: once you get that right, mount should be able to guess the filesystem type09:34
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psusitrappist: not from the livecd... mount guesses the type by looking in /etc/fstab09:35
calamariaww.. I didn't change fstab from ext2 to ext309:35
calamarithat's probably bad09:35
calamaribrb.. rebooting09:35
rodthanks for the help, ttfn09:35
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trappistpsusi: no, mount will also try all the filesystems it knows about until one works before complaining09:35
swbhello #ubuntu09:35
markus-_-silbe09:35
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markus-_-i tried that command you gave me and it still fails to boot x server09:35
trappistpsusi: iow it assumes '-t auto' if you don't specify09:36
markus-_-do i have to reinstall ubuntu?09:36
globehow can I kill xwin from text mode?09:36
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psusitrappist: sometimes I think it does... and sometimes it seems it won't...09:36
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psusibest to just specify if it isn't listed in /etc/fstab I find09:36
pashawmarkus-_-,    whats the error09:36
Eleaftrappist, Alright thank you, I'll see if that worked!09:37
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart09:37
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ossiepashaw it has the same chipset as the icensemble, and that is what is has installed as09:37
silbemarkus: examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:37
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silbemarkus: and try to find some error messages09:38
heishiroglobe: Not sure, but isnt ubuntu like any other linux?... Im downloading it now... If it is, then a ps aux|grep xwin will show you the process id, and kill processnumber should kill it...09:38
swbquick question: I tried to apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it said package has no installation candidate09:38
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swbI am on breezy, is this a problem with my sources.list?09:38
pashawossie,    then open the test again and try the top set  each type   esd and alsa   see if you get a tone09:38
silbeanyone able to help out with USB keyboard problems at installation time?09:38
gnomefreakubotu tell swb about java09:39
globeheishiro: I would assume it is...but my knowledge of *nix is very limited09:39
Eleaftrappist, alright, mounting that way works only for hda3, hda1, 2, and 4 ask for a filesystem type...09:39
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trappistEleaf: you're certain you have a hda4?09:39
heishiroglobe: then try ps aux|grep xwin09:39
heishiroor just try ps aux09:39
swb!javadebs09:40
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy09:40
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trappistglobe: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:40
heishiroit will show all the processes that linux is running...09:40
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pashawglobe,  you want to kill the entire xserver  or just 1 bad window09:40
heishiroyou will see a process id number...09:40
cmathesonEleaf: is hda4 your swap partition maybe?09:40
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steve_laptopok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing09:40
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globepashaw,  I broke xwin....the server is mostly frozen09:41
Eleafcmatheson, trappist alright, I got hda3 to mount which is my filesystem, thanks!09:41
pashawglobe,   thought you just had it working?09:41
Eleaftrappist, , hda4 is in /dev but I don't know if it is anything..09:41
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globepashaw, lol...I did...but I broke it already!09:41
eppamarok wont play any sound. but my pc plays system sound.09:42
pashawglobe,   well what  did you do?      or did it not fully work?09:42
pashawglobe,   lol it was only 10mins ago09:42
EleafAlright, is anybody willing to help me?  I've got my filesystem loaded with the livecd, my harddrive wont boot past calculating module dependencies, I'm not sure what to do to fix it..09:43
globepashaw, I think it did fully work.  but when I tried to start the gui irc, it just froze.09:43
pashawEleaf,  easy big fella09:43
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ozgurgerillawhy cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd.09:43
ozgurgerilla?*09:43
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart09:43
eppamarok wont play any sound, but system sounds work.09:43
Eleafpashaw, ?09:43
pashawglobe,   at the CLI  all you type is startx   dont do it  using sudo  or any of that09:44
Malachiwhat's a good linux program for recording radio streams?09:44
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ossieanyone know how to start the mutlimedia selector form command line???09:44
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pashawglobe,    go back into F7 the gui and  hit   ctrl+alt+backspace09:44
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revMalachi: streamripper09:45
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MalachiHeh. Thanks, rev09:45
self_hello all09:45
velenohello everyone. which package should I install to watch quicktime trailers within firefox (ubuntu 5.10) ?09:45
globepashaw.  nice. I am going to have to remember that.  I believe that I did startx w/o sudo09:45
pashawglobe,   dont do that again  :P09:45
self_in ubuntu ...if i want to open a terminal in a folder how do i do it?09:45
phos-phorosanyone else having issues in Doom 3 (black walls/floors,,,and the flashlight cannot light these areas) while bumpmapping is turned on and in using the 8.16.20 fglrx driver?09:45
Eleafpashaw, lol, I'm confused what to do..09:45
ozgurgerilla why cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd?09:46
lucasvois anybody using an EPIA board with ubuntu?09:46
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phos-phorosno issues with bumpmapping in QUake 4 though09:46
pashawEleaf,  i have to run a min to check on my users,  but   are you doing a fresh install?09:46
Eleafpashaw, do you know what ubuntu is doing when it is calculating module dependencies at boot?09:46
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velenolucasvo, which java version are you using ?09:46
Eleafpashaw, I'm trying to repair my system after a dist-upgrade from breezy pre-release to breezy09:46
trappistozgurgerilla: try rephrasing your question09:46
self_is gnomefreek here?09:46
Eleafpashaw, It freezes at calculating module dependencies every time after that09:47
gnomefreakself?09:47
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globepashaw...right09:47
self_gmone..how do i open a terminal in a folder?09:47
Eleafpashaw, your a network admin right? lol09:47
pashawEleaf,   yes09:47
ozgurgerillaok, can the ubuntu live cd compile java files?09:47
cmathesonozgurgerilla: no09:47
trappistozgurgerilla: what I meant was, "I did _______ and ______ happened.  what's wrong?"09:48
gnomefreakself_, explain that a lil more please do you mean use terminal to go into a dir/folder?09:48
lucasvoveleno: why? what java?09:48
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Eleafpashaw, yay.  But do you have any idea what to do to fix my ibook?09:48
globepashaw: not sure what I did in the first place but I got the irc client to open correctly now....09:48
pashawEleaf,   nothing about ibooks :(09:48
masecan anyone help me set up an auto mount on fstab with read only permission so any user can read stuff, like mp3s?09:48
self_i want to execute a file in a downloaded folder09:48
pashawEleaf,    too busy playing with Linux09:48
Eleafpashaw, well I'm trying to fix the calculating module dependencies thing09:48
self_in other distros you click in the folder and open a terminal09:49
gnomefreakself_,  what kind of file extention is it?09:49
eppisnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?09:49
Eleafpashaw, do I chroot to the harddrive with the livecd, and then what?09:49
velenoozgurgerilla: which java version are you using ?09:49
eppisnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?09:49
ozgurgerillatrappist i think my problem was understood by someone else and he gave me the answer. why should why rephrase it exactly the sameway u want it?09:49
velenolucasvo, sorry, wrong nick09:49
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)09:49
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gnomefreakself_, im not sure09:49
ozgurgerillaI*09:49
pashawEleaf,    im not a chroot pro  only used it a few times09:49
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eppisnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?09:50
gnomefreakself_, if any terminal will work use the default terminal and do what you need to do09:50
Eleafpashaw, ok, well how do i fix the module dependencies thing? lolol09:50
msg1hey, I just installed ubuntu. the computer is plugged into my modem through a regular network cable. It was able to connect to the internet when downloading updates, but it times out when trying to goto a website on firefox.09:50
self_example ...in puppy you right click in the file and exe xterm09:50
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trappistozgurgerilla: don't be obtuse.  the way you asked it, the answer is unknowable.  it could be because you don't know how, because you're trying to use the sun jre compiler which it doesn't have, or anything else.09:50
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gnomefreakself_,  right click the file and open with other app than choose terminal09:50
eppisnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?09:50
pashawEleaf,    im re-reading your post09:50
trappistepp: no.09:51
gnomefreakself_,  i never used puppy :(09:51
self_if i open a terminal and just say syslinux /dev/sda1 it says it cannot find the file09:51
cmathesonmsg1: can you ping yahoo.com?09:51
trappistepp: and don't repeat yourself every few seconds like that.09:51
msg1okay how do i do that09:51
self_lol....its interesting09:51
pashawEleaf,   it boots to grub right    have you tried a recovery kernel09:51
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jahshua--hi whats the latest version of Ubuntu ?09:51
gnomefreakok now bbl have some work to do09:51
pashawEleaf,   your old ones09:51
gnomefreak5.1009:52
cmathesonjahshua--: breezy09:52
martiiok folks09:52
epptrappist, i have used the program before it was reffered from here09:52
martiiI have problem with playing WMV streams09:52
martiiin firefox09:52
self_so lets say i want to install a program from a file how would i do that/09:52
ozgurgerilla<trappist> thanks09:52
jahshua--5.10 ?09:52
martiiany sugestions?09:52
jahshua--cool09:52
martiishould I use vlc09:52
martiimplayer plugin ?09:52
martiiI;ve tried mpalyer plugin but it's so slooooow09:52
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self_:-(09:53
msg1yes i am able to ping yahoo.ocm09:53
sanjayjust received the 5.10 CD's and setting up : ) -- can someone give me a link to the ideal contents of the Repositories file ? with the backdoor repositories etc ?09:53
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Stew_LappyI want a newsreader that works with nzb files, any suggestions?09:53
Eleafpashaw, they don't put a recover kernel with the ppc version, anyways, I got the livecd up and my hard drive mounted, I have access to all the files on my harddrive09:53
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self_....command question anyone?09:54
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steve_laptopok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing09:54
pashawEleaf,    also you can "append"  some commends to your grub boot   to disable all the fancy stuff like acpi   so you can at least boot to fix it09:54
pinkisntwellsanjay: you can open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the repositories09:54
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pinkisntwellsanjay: so that all of them will be used by synaptic and apt-get09:54
pashawEleaf,   i dont have a clue  what would help an ibook boot09:54
sethkself_, the argument is a device, you gave it a partition09:54
Eleafpashaw, ok but I'm booted into the livecd and I can make the changes there, I just don't know what to fix...09:55
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philcmy laptop gets online on a lot of networks, and gets a variety of ips. When it's connected at home, I want it to have a static IP or an ip alias. Is this possible with network manager, or with ubuntu's default networking setup but still utilizing dhcp? The dhcp server is some router, and I don't want to have to set the policy on the router itself09:55
pashawEleaf,   on an ibm lappy i would try disabling acpi and apic09:55
naliothlove that chanserv09:55
elih guys09:55
self_yes i want to knnow how to open a terminal in a folder09:55
pashawEleaf,   reinstall the kernel  wold be a start09:55
self_know even09:55
Eleafpashaw, ok, should I use apt?09:55
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in54noapt-get install mplayer   (because dont download?)09:56
self_or how to open a terminal linked to the folder contents09:56
elany1 here use kylix?09:56
Eleafpashaw, for some reason, the livecd isn't letting me use my ethernet...09:56
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pashawEleaf, someone else has to be better for this question    ask   how to chroot into your broekn Ubuntu to reinstalll the kernel09:56
elany use kylix09:57
self_i understand what gnome is saying to open the folder with an application09:57
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self_but i want to execute a command linked to a file09:57
Eleafpashaw, alright, I am chrooted into it I have a bunch of kernels there, but only the kernel named "Linux" shows up at boot...09:57
msg1most of the programs cannot access the internet but i am able to ping yahoo.com in the terminal. Is this a known problem?09:58
Eleafwhile I have at least 6 old kernels in /boot09:58
ellehello, is there an html - browser expert here? i've been trying to fix my stupid browser for days now >:(09:58
self_if i want to execute a file i need to tell ubuntu where it is or it will not find it09:58
elwhat problems do u have?09:58
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ellethe fonts won't render how i want09:59
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Eleafself_, what do you mean?09:59
elohh which browser are u using09:59
self_ok..09:59
elleOpera09:59
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eloh09:59
elim out then09:59
cmathesonself_: that's kind of the point... if it's not in your $PATH you have to specify what you want to run09:59
elleyep09:59
ellenightmare09:59
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elstay with ff09:59
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self_ an example is in puppy linux ..if i want to execute a runnable file i open a terminal in the folder and use a command10:00
Eleafself_, you could put a link in your bin folder to what your trying to run10:00
eltgry konqueror10:00
elleido you know if i shoudl have a user.css which my browser reads locally because i don't have one10:00
self_in ubuntu i cannot open a terminal in a folder10:00
Eleafself_, what?10:00
elhave u tried re-installing or re downloading sometimes they wont download properly10:00
elmake sure it updated10:00
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self_ok an example is ..i download a file and put it in home folder10:01
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Eleafok10:01
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self_now i want to execute the file in the folder10:01
Eleafself_, ok10:01
lightbrightwhats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive?10:01
elhas any used kylix with ubuntu?10:01
self_so how do i execute the file?10:02
Eleafself_, ./filename10:02
ellightbright....you dont10:02
sanjaypinkisntwell: thanks! -- are there any additional repositories that can be added to the list, or is the list fairly comprehensive ?10:02
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lightbrightwhats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive replacing sector by sector with zero's etc?10:02
elleno, i had alot of dependence problems when i installed. do you think if i do a reinstall that will happen now?will i have all the libs etc i need?10:02
self_ubuntu says no such file..or cannot find file10:02
elyes10:02
lightbrightel: is now ignored for trolling again10:02
pinkisntwellsanjay: it's very comprehensive.10:02
elare u dialup?10:02
elleOK i might try it then10:02
elleme10:02
Eleafself_, are you sure your putting the right file name in then?10:02
elle no10:02
elok10:02
elu on arouter?10:03
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elleno10:03
self_yes it says no directory10:03
eldirect to modem?10:03
lightbrightel: stop trolling and stop giving wrong advice10:03
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Eleafself_, so you do this?  cd ~/path/to/binary ./binaryName10:03
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crocdlightbright: you need a util like diskban todo that10:03
lightbrightcrocd: ok thanks10:04
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lightbrightcrocd: is diskban available for ubuntu?10:04
ellei'll try a reinstall10:04
crocdi think it is called dban. let me check.10:04
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crocdit is a bootable util which wipes with 1 and 0 up to nasa encrypted level10:04
self_i see so you have to direct ubuntu all the way to the file no matter where it is in the structure10:04
lightbrightcrocd: ok thanks10:05
self_you cannot open a term in the folder?#10:05
lightbrightcrocd: did you find it?10:05
Eleafself_, of course10:05
crocdhang on wife is behind me10:05
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LazyAce`lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete it?10:06
LazyAce`just figuratively speaking you know :o10:06
steve_laptopcan someone help me with this - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=614677#post61467710:06
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self_so to do a command like syslinux /dev/sda1 i would have to put all the other levels in front of the command10:07
steve_laptopbrb10:07
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Kindredself_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26668 , seems like it does what you want10:07
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self_ok ill have a look thanks10:07
Kindredself_, alternatively you could right click a folder and select open with and then terminal - it will then add this option to the right click menu10:08
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crocdlightbright: http://dban.sourceforge.net/10:08
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Eleafcan somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?10:08
Kindredbut obviously you'd have to move up to the parent dir10:08
phatmonkey^iBookI'm having trouble with the kubuntu live cd... this is probably the best place, it's an X issue10:08
phatmonkey^iBookX won't start10:08
sanjayumm.. i just editted my sources.list file and uncommented the repositories... now i start Synaptic and it gives me a big error message: couldn't stat...... (i can post the details into paste-bin .. )10:08
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phatmonkey^iBookI have a radeon x800pro, and it appears to be an ati driver issue10:08
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phatmonkey^iBookswitching to the vga driver works on 8 bit colour and 320x240 resolution10:09
Kindredsanjay, apt-get update10:09
lightbrightcrocd: i compile it?10:09
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sanjayKindred: <g> thanks ..10:09
koburI am trying to install drivers for an ati radeon 9600 xt all in wonder card.  However I am a total beginner and don't know how.10:10
LazyAce`lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete kubuntu ?10:10
phatmonkey^iBook"PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could be detected!"10:10
Eleafcan somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?10:10
Eleafhmm10:11
PeteyPablo!tell kobur about ati10:11
lightbrightLazyAce`: why would you install kubuntu-desktop anyway?10:11
LazyAce`wanted to check out KDE10:11
ice-tLazyAce`, dpkg -P kubuntu-desktop i think10:11
jt3kLazyAce` : i had the opposite experience. started with kubuntu, added gnome and bang, everything's messed up10:11
LazyAce`yea10:11
LazyAce`lol10:11
crocdlightbright: brb10:11
phatmonkey^iBookdpkg-reconfigure solves nothing10:11
ice-tjt3k, me2. fonts...10:11
LazyAce`ice-t , says i require superuser access or sometshizz10:12
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geneo93LazyAce`:  try just kde next time10:12
elleEleaf: it's probably lib dependcies10:12
LazyAce`lol10:12
oxezLazyAce`: run with sudo10:12
LazyAce`o10:12
LazyAce`coarse lol10:12
ice-tor as root ;)10:12
dereks_would this be sufficient for my fstab if i want to mount an ext3 hdd on boot? /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       010:12
ubuntu133have some of you got an idea how to install  and write in some other languages in ubuntu ?10:12
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crocdlightbright: did you check the link?10:12
lightbrightcrocd: yeah, so I need to compile it?10:13
jt3kice-t: how did you fix it10:13
ice-tjt3k, i installed ubuntu kompletely new ^^10:13
crocdlightbright: it is a bootable linux cd/floppy whith which you wipe a hard drive. you cannot do it within linux afaik.10:13
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)10:13
jt3khaha just the same that i did10:13
ice-tsorry, my english is not that good...10:13
jt3kneither is mine10:14
LazyAce`ice-t :  this is what it says dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kubuntu-desktop which isn't installed10:14
phatmonkey^iBookfixed, used the radeon driver10:14
crocdlightbright: Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction.10:14
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ellecan someone tell me where i can get browser and html help from? or a good irc search engine, i don't want to reinstall my browser10:14
crocdthe first paragraph on the page. read it10:14
LazyAce`now, i did kind of 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'10:14
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ice-thmm. i think kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package10:14
LazyAce`its an ass package lol10:14
lightbrightcrocd: does dban recognise the Ubuntu hard drive or it only reads ntfs or fat32 hard drives?10:14
PeteyPabloice-t: correct10:14
koburCan someone help me with installing radeon drivers?  I downloaded the files, but don't know how to install them.10:14
LazyAce`only reads fat32 crocd:10:14
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LazyAce`it'll read NTFS, but it wont read or right10:15
LazyAce`well, wont write to it10:15
crocdit wipes a drive regardless of the partition or format. thats all it is designed for. you select it per drive afaik. I havent used it per partition.10:15
LazyAce`PENIS10:15
LazyAce`LOL10:16
LazyAce`that wasn't supposed to go across networks10:16
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lightbrightLazyAce`: dban only reads fat32 hard drives?10:16
LazyAce`think so10:16
LazyAce`lemme check10:16
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LazyAce`bb, restarting10:16
crocdlightbright: no it wipes the hard drive regardless of the partion i have wiped a gentoo build with it.10:16
crocdand NTFS10:17
StarQuakeLaney, lol why did you say that?10:17
lightbrightLazyAce`: you "think" so?  Well if you only THINK so, dont say statements that could be misleading10:17
LazyAce`i thought he was trying to read10:17
lightbrightLazyAce`: check your data before you make comments please for accuracy10:17
LazyAce`but i lost the text10:17
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lightbrightcrocd: ok thanks10:17
LazyAce`bb10:17
lightbrightbrb10:17
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kbrooksI meed some help10:17
crocdlightbright: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/520060/DBAN.html10:18
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)10:18
kbrooksi tried to unmount a ipod device. doesnt work. how do i disconnect it?10:18
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crocdread that link it has a bit more info also mentions wiping paritions. because it is a linux boot cd it can read any partition. fat32, ntfs or any linux partition.10:18
kbrookswhat will happen if i just unplug the ipod from the computer?10:18
apokryphoskbrooks: what's the error?10:18
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StarQuakewow huge ban list here10:19
kbrooksapokryphos, unknown argument, i think10:19
apokryphoskbrooks: generally not a good idea. I always unmount it, listen to it and wait till it stops spinning, then unplug. Seems safest.10:19
kbrooksapokryphos, i cant hear10:19
Dio^Brandohi i've a problem and i don't know what to do...i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly (apt) but they don't work and Xorg.log doesn't have any EE string...10:19
kbrooksapokryphos, i dont own this ipod10:19
heishiroHello. One question... If i need to install ubuntu on an intel pentium D 3.0GHz processor, should i use the AMD 64 Bits one?... I mean, my processor is EMT64, dual core... i should use the 64bits version right?10:19
self_Kindred...your thread works brilliantly10:19
apokryphoskbrooks: umount /media/ipod  gives "unknown argument"?10:19
self_i can now open a terminal in any folder10:20
kbrooksapokryphos, nautilus10:20
crocdkbrooks: arfe you sure of the mount path?10:20
koburWell, thanks anyway.10:20
apokryphoskbrooks: ditch that10:20
kbrooksit tries to eject the device10:20
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kbrooksi didn't mount it myself10:20
apokryphosdoesn't matter10:20
ice-tkbrooks, look up, what device your ipod is with "mount"10:20
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kbrooksi plugged in & it was auto detected10:20
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self_is kindred still here?10:20
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kbrooksice-t, already unmounted10:20
lightbrightcrocd: can you tell dban to wipe the hard drives you chose? OR does it automatically wipe anything it finds?  Because I only want to wipe hdb1 and not hda10:21
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apokryphoskbrooks: auto-detected = auto-mounted10:21
levanderIs /sbin/grub-install supposed to rewrite menu.lst?10:21
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Kindredself_: sure..10:21
crocdlightbright: you can choose your hard drive. you will see when it boots up it gives you hard drives to select for wiping.10:21
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kbrooksapokryphos, i unmounted it10:22
self_why is this code not in ubuntu already..it is so brilliant10:22
geneo93i have a util that will wipe entire machine including bios10:22
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self_your thread works well10:22
crocdself_: what code?10:22
self_i can now open a terminal in a folder#10:22
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kbrooksapokryphos, its not in mount10:22
lightbrightcrocd: ok thanks10:22
lightbrightcrocd: take long to wipe a 10 gig hard drive?10:23
kbrooksapokryphos, eject doesnt do it10:23
apokryphoskbrooks: safe to listen to hear if it's working, if not -- unmount it10:23
apokryphos*unplug it10:23
Kindredself_: actually I was just looking and there is a program called nautilus-open-terminal which I just installed via apt-get, it seems like it does the same thing though10:23
self_it is a thread that lets you open a terminal in a folder so you dont have to type the path to execut a file10:23
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Chousukethread?10:23
Chousukewtf do you mean with a thread?10:24
self_well the code i used from the thread works10:24
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Chousukeah, a script or something?10:24
crocdlightbright: a while depends on the level of wiping you go for. cant remember the time fram exactly. About 20 min for 10 gb i think.10:24
ChousukeURL please.10:24
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verizanyone can tel me whats wrong with my mysql: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)10:24
self_well your help is apprectiated..thanks10:25
Kindred veriz, mysql -u root -p10:25
verizKindred: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)10:25
self_thats the trouble with app get you need to know exactly what it does ..lol10:25
lightbrightcrocd: ok10:25
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self_kindred.. could you let gnome know what i was on about..10:27
thoegerHi folks - My disk space is limited, so I wondered if there was any way to get rid of alle the unnused .debs in  /var/cache/apt/archives?10:27
kbrooksapokryphos, someone near me is asking me what unmount means10:27
thoegerIs it safe to removedhe10:27
kbrooksapokryphos, do you know?10:27
thoegerremove them manually - sorry....10:28
slimmy wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)10:28
geneo93thoeger:  apt-get clean10:28
apokryphoskbrooks: think about what the world means literally10:28
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Kindredveriz: have you set up a password for mysql..10:28
apokryphoskbrooks: any devices on your computer need to be "mounted" to be "on" the computer10:28
thoegergeneo93: is that all? wheee...10:28
apokryphosor for them to be detected10:29
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geneo93yes susdo for you though10:29
self_any way happy new year to all and ill catch you later....10:29
geneo93sudo i mean10:29
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thoegergeneo93: yup, figured that... thanx. Is there a GUI way to do that in synaptics? Maybe I'm just blind.....10:30
Dio^Brandohi i've a problem and i don't know what to do...i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly (apt) but they don't work and Xorg.log doesn't have any EE string...10:30
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SaLoMoNhui10:30
SaLoMoNi installed a soundcard on my server10:30
StarQuakeDio^Brando, don't work? what's the problem?10:30
SaLoMoNhow to configure it?10:31
SaLoMoNor install10:31
SaLoMoNthe modules?10:31
Kindredthoeger: settings - preferences - files in synaptic10:31
Dio^BrandoStarQuake:  the screen goes black and after a while (10 sec) i have to restart my machine (even the keyboard stops to work)10:32
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StarQuakeDio^Brando, what kind of card?10:32
jt3kDio^Brando , maybe you have the wrong version of the drivers10:32
Dio^BrandoStarQuake:  geforce mx40010:33
geneo93Dio^Brando:  have you done nvidia-glx-config enable10:33
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  yes(it only changes my xorg.conf "nv" in "nvidia")10:34
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geneo93where did you get driver10:34
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jc-dentondvd playing on my laptop is really fucking slow under ubuntu10:35
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  i've tried both nvidia's homepage and apt's10:35
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jc-dentoni haven't watched dvds for quite a while on it10:35
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jc-dentonbut i remeber that it was much faster.. (under debian i think)10:35
jt3kjc-denton , enable dma access or dvd playback will be painfully slow10:35
jc-dentonthat is disabled?10:36
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jt3kmy laptop was doing the same yesterday10:36
StarQuakewow10:36
jc-dentonlol wtf10:36
StarQuaketell me how to enable10:36
jc-dentonwhat are the stupid users supposed to do if they want to watch dvd?10:36
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jt3ka lot of stuff10:37
binarydigitsay please10:37
cmathesonjc-denton: in this case you are one of the stupid users10:37
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jc-dentonno10:37
StarQuakebinarydigit, pretty pretty please10:37
jc-dentoncmatheson: u tell me "enable dma"10:37
jc-dentonme: wtf it's note enabled by default10:37
jc-dentonthen i enableit10:37
jt3kspecially if you want to play encrypted dvds10:37
Dio^Brandojc-denton:  there's an howto in ubuntuguide.com10:37
binarydigithdparm -d /dev/yourdevicehere10:37
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jc-dentontell that to somebody who is not familiar with computers10:38
StarQuakenano -w /etc/hdparm.conf10:38
jc-dentonyes i know hdparm10:38
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jt3ki read some time ago that dma access is kinda dangerous for data10:38
jt3kis it still risky to use it under linux?10:38
binarydigitmaybe in the 70s10:38
geneo93thats bull10:38
SeveasDio^Brando, ubuntuguide.org is a bad source for information10:38
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binarydigithmm lets see10:38
binarydigit!dma10:38
Dio^BrandoSeveas:  really?i found it useful...10:38
Seveasjt3k, only if your hard drives are from the 80's10:39
Seveas!ubuntuguide10:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.10:39
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  are you still there?10:39
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Seveasargh, some moron chanted it10:39
geneo93Dio^Brando:  yes10:39
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jonoif I compile a kernel for an amd64 processor but I am running x86 (32-bit) applications, will it cause a problem?10:39
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jt3ki ask because i have tried 3 or 4 distros and none had dma access enabled by default10:39
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  any hint?10:39
jc-dentonwell thx4info10:39
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naliothDio^Brando: let us hope you suffer no ill effects from its use10:39
Seveas!ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead10:39
ubotu...but ubuntuguide is already something else...10:39
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Seveas!no ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead10:40
ubotuSeveas: okay10:40
Dio^Brandonalioth:  oh...!10:40
vrlnSeveas: is the guy who wrote the original ubuntuguide part of the crew that made that official version?10:40
clastis it possible to use an ipod nano with linux/gtkpod10:40
Seveasno10:40
vrlnlooks quite similar at least :)10:40
vrlnah10:40
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geneo93maybe nvidia drivers from nvisia are best but i did complete reinstall for them10:40
naliothvrln: which is why we don't recommend it, it doesnt keep up with progress10:40
Seveasthe guy who created ubuntuguide.org is an uncooperative fool who spreads bad information10:40
apokryphosvrln: similar? The documentation isn't remotely similar. The official docs *explain* things10:41
Dio^Brandonalioth:  can you help me about nvidia drivers and xorg?10:41
naliothubotu: tell Dio^Brando about nvidia10:41
vrlnapokryphos: yeah, well, I mostly meant the concept; ie, quick question and answer :) (haven't actually read the official one, sorry for being unclear)10:41
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  the weird thing is that xorg doen'st give any error!this is the xorg.log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639110:42
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geneo93look in home dir for xsession errors10:42
Dio^Brandogeneo93:  where exactly10:42
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geneo93file:///home/kane/.xsession-errors10:43
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SealyDavewhat does the number(x) mean in the kernel version ex. 2.6.12-x?10:44
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StarQuakeit's the ubuntu release10:44
kbrooksi need help10:44
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SealyDavethe kernel10:44
Dio^Brandogeneo nothing useful...10:44
StarQuakeSealyDave, everytime they release a kernel with ubuntu patches it increases10:45
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kbrooksi need help10:45
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SealyDavek10:45
geneo93well it may not be there if it crashes10:45
robotgeekkbrooks: please be more descriptive10:45
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SealyDavei cant seem to startx in -10 , have to use -910:45
kbrookssome music on the iPod isn't showing up on it.10:45
kbrookswhat gives10:45
geneo93maybe you dont have codecs for some10:46
kbrooksno, "on the iPod"10:46
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SealyDavethe latest kernel path is what?10:46
SealyDave*patch10:46
kbrooksSealyDave, god knows10:47
Storkhow come whenever i do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it just gives me "* reconfiguring network interfaces..." and then nothing? it just freezes10:47
mweStork: you gotta check dmesg and the log files in /var/log/10:47
SealyDavedo you guys know where i can find a text file with all the nix comands and descriptions ?10:48
Storkthe who with the what?10:48
geneo93Stork:  i am forced to use a different distro because ubuntu wont network here10:48
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mweSealyDave: all of them. no. but sudo apt-get rutebook is a good start10:48
Storkit's usually alright10:48
crocdSealyDave: it will be a large file10:48
hmp_SealyDave: TAB; TAB10:48
Storki'm trying to get ubuntu to keep a fixed bloody ip address10:48
Storkinstead of using dhcp10:48
Storki set it up on my router10:48
gnu2it2any ubuntu/sparc folks here?10:49
Storkbut i don't know how to do it over the command line10:49
robotgeekgnu2it2: afaik, ubuntu doesn't run on the sparc10:49
binarydigitStork: ifconfig10:49
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robotgeekgnu2it2: you would have to use debian/gentoo10:49
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geneo93stork sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.3 or what ever addy your using10:49
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Aron_FigaroHey everyone.10:50
geneo93oh forgot the eth010:50
gnu2it2http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-sparc/dists/breezy/restricted/debian-installer/binary-sparc/10:50
Aron_FigaroAnyone here get VisualBoyAdvance working under Wine 0.93/4? I've been hearing a bit about it on the forums but can't get any details.10:50
gnu2it2but i',m looking for install ISO disk10:50
geneo93Stork:  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.310:50
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Storkyeh i guessed the eth0 part ;p10:50
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Storkok so far it's  just doing nothing10:51
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Storkmy router detects it as working10:51
binarydigityou need to set the gateway and dns and subnet mask too10:51
Storkand connected10:51
jt3kAron_Figaro : theres a native linux version of vba10:51
geneo93did nothing for me as well only on different distro10:51
Storkthey are the same10:51
alvarohi, how can i download/install opera on breezy 5.10?10:51
Storkbut the command line isn't doing anything10:51
Storkit's crashed10:52
Storkagain10:52
geneo93the dhcp3 sucks10:52
vrlnalvaro: go to opera.com, download the .deb package, and sudo dpkg -i package.deb10:52
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Storki feel a manual restart is in order10:52
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SAM_themanyo people long time no see :D10:52
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Aron_Figarojt3k: Yes but it sucks.10:53
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robotgeekubotu: tell alvaro about opera10:53
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Aron_Figarojt3k: It's a positively ancient build, and doesn't even run with a GUI. I can almost guarantee running the newer builds in Wine to work better10:54
SealyDaveso i did a manual install, a easyubuntu install and a automatix install but cant get jre running on this badboy10:54
jt3kwhat do you dislike about it?10:54
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robotgeekubotu: tell SealyDave about java10:54
mgwis it possible to get write access to my connected digicam?10:54
jt3kI don't use it much so it has been enough for me10:55
ice-tubotu: tell ice-t about java10:55
GnarlyBobwrite access?10:55
SealyDavedude i know ive been there10:55
StorkFUFCCFFUIFCFCU*CCKCUFRF(PUT10:55
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SealyDaveim on tier 3 troubleshooting10:55
Storkit wont fucking work10:55
crocdStork: if i remember correctly you need to ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 mask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.110:55
apokryphosStork: language, please.10:55
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Storksorry :(10:55
jt3ka positive aspect if it is that you can load savegames from the windows version10:55
Storktechnically, i didn't manage to say it10:55
mgwGnarlyBob: yes, i want to write some pictures to my cameras storage card10:55
Aron_Figarojt3k: Speed mostly10:55
Aron_Figarojt3k: and I've never gotten sound to work properly in it10:56
GnarlyBobI didn't know that was possible, but I don't know much about such devices either10:56
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Aron_Figarojt3k: gak! Just found out why it's slow - binary's compiled from SDL ><10:56
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_Lestat_Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?10:56
Aron_Figarojt3k: WTF were those guys smoking? No wonder 1.8 is a total rebuild10:57
SealyDaveMTU settings10:57
McJerryMTU10:57
levanderCan someone tell me why when i 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', then 'chroot /mnt', then just a 'mount' it is reported that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /?10:57
jt3kmmm bad stuff10:57
SealyDaveha i said it first10:57
Storkcrocd, that sort of works. the router accepts it, but it crashes the ssh session (it just freezes)10:57
globeHelp: How do I get ubuntu to seek name servers ?  If I target xchat at irc.freenode.net, it seeks ip:1.0.0.0.  If I target it at freenode.net's ip, it works fine.10:57
Kyralglobe: are you on a Linksys Wireless Router?10:58
crocdlevander: once you mount something you cannot remount it. you first have to unmount it10:58
Storkcrocd, will that work even if i restart?10:58
levandercrocd: how am i remounting something?10:58
SealyDaveall this talk about mounting makes me want to whack off10:58
crocdyep but check what it IFCONFIG SAYS10:58
globeKyral:nope, I am on a linksys wired switch->dsl gateway (serving dhcp from dsl)10:58
sanjayglobe: add the DNS server you are using to resolv.conf .. what does your /etc/resolv.conf file show ?10:58
Kyralglobe: Mine hates me too10:58
Kyralglobe: lemme guess no DNS?10:59
crocdlevander: if you mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/music10:59
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SealyDaveuse 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.210:59
jt3kdoes anyone know how to sync a pocket pc with kubuntu (kontact or something like that)? just point me to a good link, I've failed everytime I tried10:59
Storkcrocd, what am i looking for?10:59
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levandercrocd: are you explaining something? i'm not doing that10:59
crocdlevander: then you have to umount it otherwise mount produces an error. it is like trying to wake someone whom is already awake.10:59
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crocdlevander: what did you mount it as?11:00
sanjayKyral, globe - yea, for some reason my resolv.conf keeps auto-resetting itself to 192.168.0.1 which doesn't work --- manually changing the DNS server there and doing a "chattr +i resolv.conf" worked for me .11:00
globekyral,sanjay: my dns servers are in there. I thought of that too.  The servers in there are my dsl gateway and the dns from my provider11:00
levandercrocd: yes, i know that, but when am I trying to remount something?  I mount, then I chroot.  That's it11:00
crocdaaah.11:00
Kyralglobe: you are better off than I. DNS ain't working good for me11:00
crocdare you as root levander?11:01
levandercrocd: 1.) 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', 2.) 'chroot /mnt', and 3.) 'mount' - this last command reports that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /11:01
Kyralsanjay: what did you change your DNS to?11:01
levandercrocd: yes, as root11:01
Kyralsanjay: its set to my ISP's server11:01
SealyDavesounds like you need to disable DHCP on router11:01
globesanjay: what is a chattr cmd?11:01
PeteyPablochange attribute11:01
levanderglobe: chmod11:01
KyralChange Attributes11:01
PeteyPablolike +X11:02
sanjayKyral: provided by my ISP -- 203.94.227.70 -- it resets it to the gateway address which is generally ok but my isp is weird and uses a separate DNS server ..11:02
KyralIt seems to be specific to ext2/311:02
Kyralhmm11:02
globelavender: I C.11:02
Kyralmine is set to the ISP's address11:02
crocdlevander: why are you mounting it as /mnt, normally you should have a folder specified under that other wise it might not work11:02
_Lestat_Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?11:02
KyralI'm gonna upgrade my firmware11:02
SealyDaveMTU settings11:02
sanjayglobe: chattr is just to make a file "immutable" -- excluding write permissions for all users, basically .. but if the problem is not with resolv.conf and DNS servers, ignore .11:02
SealyDaveget on it11:02
crocdlevander: out of curiosity what are you trying to do?11:02
Kyraland hack the code11:02
levandercrocd: mounting on /mnt works fine, i've been doing it for years11:02
Storkcrocd, what exactly am i looking for in "ifconfig" ? it says 192.168.0.3 as the ip11:02
levandercrocd: reinstall grub11:03
Storkwill it keep that when i restart?11:03
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KyralI love it ebing GPL'd :D11:03
cozhello all11:03
crocdahh!11:03
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steve_laptopbrb11:03
alvarowhen i try installing opera it says i need these:11:03
darkzerohi11:03
alvaroxlib6g, xlibs11:03
crocdStork: it should say ip: then bcast then mask11:04
SealyDavewhere can i submit a ticket for ubuntu?  lol11:04
binarydigitalvaro: so you gonna install them11:04
coz] apt-get install xlibs11:04
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alvaroi get this when i do sudo apt-get install xlibs:11:04
alvaroThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:04
alvaro  opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable11:04
darkzerosomeone knows how to fix a tcl/tk related problem with amsn? ._.11:04
McJerrylevander: question: exactly what fs and os is on /dev/hdda3?11:05
McJerryhda3 i meant11:05
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cozalvaro at the risk of these "people" coming down on me just use automatix to install opera works lika charm11:05
Storkcrocd, ok, good. will it keep that when i restart?11:05
alvaroi live in the U.S though, it says it's illegal :-S11:05
MayorMcCheeseAnyone have ideas on how to get a dell true mobile internal wireless card to work in ubuntu11:06
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cozalvaro most things are legal for personal use that is the licensing in the US11:06
robotgeekMayorMcCheese, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:06
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robotgeekcoz: it is for a reason, i believe11:06
cozit is legal for personal use11:06
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alvarohow do i get automatix :S11:06
crocdyep once it has accepted it it should. check to see if you can ping a ip address Stork11:06
Storki can11:06
darkzero(amsn won't start... I think it's something related with the WISH interpreter... and xrgb)11:06
cozwait iw ill get the url11:07
Dio^Brandook i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly and i found that Load "glx" gives black screen...it's just like xorg crashes when it tryes to load the glx module11:07
crocdthen it should work, try to restart ssh11:07
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robotgeekMayorMcCheese: see if your card is listed somewhere on that page11:07
SealyDavealvaro: easyubuntu is better11:07
cozalvaro     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656311:07
Storkis there a way to make the scp command not overwrite files?11:07
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cozalvaro are you using breezy?11:07
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alvaroyea11:07
cozgreat if you have hardware issues automatix will work11:08
darkzeroDio^Brando hai installato la versione giusta della patch per il kernel?11:08
cozif youhave NO hardware issues11:08
richard_does windows xp need to be on the first partition?11:08
Dio^Brandodarkzero:  patch?11:08
cozalways install xp first11:08
crocdlevander: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html. Have you checked this11:08
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richard_coz: on the first partition?11:09
cozI really don't think it matters which paritition but installation matters11:09
cozit is always safer when dual booting with xp tpo install xp first11:09
SealyDaveyup11:09
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cozbut I have seen some people have problems in any way they install11:10
cozif you are used to dual booting you should know what to do after that11:10
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SealyDavebuy a p3 for 100 bcks11:10
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locsmifHi, I'm testing a script that detects X version, would anybody like to help me out and show me the output of this line? (I need to know if it fucntions correctly with X.Org as well as Xfree86)11:10
darkzeroDio^Brando look at the driver page in the Nvidia homesite... once upon a time nv drivers comes with a kernel patch11:10
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locsmifxdpyinfo | awk '/version:/ { print $NF }'11:11
locsmifthat's the line11:11
locsmifshould give something back like "6.8.2"11:11
locsmifor similar11:11
cozhold on locsmif11:11
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darkzeroDio^Brando or, maybe, now this patch is autocompiled from the nvidia-installer :S uhm11:11
Dio^Brandodarkzero:  so italiano pure io c'avevi visto bene prima!sto diventando scemo con sti driver nvidia11:11
Dio^Brandoho provato sia ad installare quelli ufficiali dal sito nvidia che con apt11:11
vilefridgeHello! :)  I just installed a new motherboard and Ubuntu 5.10 refuses to boot entirely.  I receive an error stating that the XServer cannot be loaded.  I believe that this is the graphical environment.  How can I 'repair' my installation without losing my current configuration.. so that my new motherboard functions?11:11
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darkzeroDio^Brando a anch'io so' Italiano, ma me pareva maleducato qua 'ffa er burino :P11:11
cozgot the exact niuumbers11:11
robotgeeklocsmif: 6.8.211:12
RenichHi guys11:12
cozlocsmif I got the same numbers11:12
Renichneed guideance11:12
robotgeek!it11:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:12
=== steve_laptop Thanks everyone for your help on my apt-get problem...
darkzeroDio^Brando You see? ._.11:12
locsmifrobotgeek, coz , great! :)11:12
Dio^Brandodarkzero:  isee..11:12
Renichim 'considering' on installing ubuntu... why should I? any strenghts?11:12
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yatesyoh please11:12
darkzeroDio^Brando see you on ubuntu-it11:12
globevilefridge: I had that same problem.  try "dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:12
ossie!tell ossie repositories11:12
coNPwhat is the default SMTP server in ubuntu?11:12
skonvilefridge: hit Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace to go into textual mode....from there....you'll need to do some hardware research and troubleshooting11:12
Dio^Brandodarkzero:  i'm already there11:12
globevilefridge no quotes11:13
robotgeekcoNP: postfix, i believe11:13
ossie!tell ossie repositry11:13
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robotgeekglobe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:13
cozDioBrando ciao11:13
ossie!tell ossie repositories11:13
crocdlocsmif: 6.8.211:13
fredforfaenim trying to compile openbox but i get this error ;  The X Window System could not be found.11:13
fredforfaen what should i do?11:13
cozHas anyone here tried the app "sketch" and if so did you get it work?11:13
vilefridgeglobe, skon: thanks!  I'll give that a shot =)11:13
cptmorgani installed and started portmap but when i try to mount nfs shares i get RPC program not found11:13
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robotgeekubotu tell fredforfaen about xincludes11:14
skonsure11:14
locsmifcrocd, ok, excellent11:14
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ossie!tell ossie repository11:14
ossie!tell ossie repositorys11:14
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robotgeekubotu: tell ossie repos11:14
globerobotgeek. right.11:14
fredforfaenrobotgeek thanx :)11:14
kemik!tell ossie about repositories11:14
ossie!tell ossie repos11:14
skonubotu: tell ossuie about repositories11:14
ossiecheers11:14
Renich!tell ossie about repositories11:14
kemikspam! :)11:14
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Renichhaha11:14
skon:-D11:14
globehow do I make my eth0 look at dhcp on boot?11:15
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Renich10 secs11:15
cozagain has anyone used the app "sketch" and have you gotten it to work?11:15
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robotgeekglobe: add auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces11:15
Renichhey, are you guys happy with ubuntu?11:15
Renichplease tell me the weaknesses!11:15
ossiewhere is the one that generates a list for u ???? please11:15
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cozVERY HAPPY WITH UBUNTU11:15
bob832Renich: very happy with ubuntu11:15
robotgeekubotu: tell ossie about easysource11:15
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Renichok, why?!11:15
cozapplications generally suck11:16
cozI like it because I make money from it11:16
Renichlol11:16
jt3kbest hardware support so far in my linux usage experience11:16
Renichany good things to say about it? or is it just markenting "good"11:16
ossiegracias11:16
cozIn all seriousness I never liked linux or  unix other than irix but ubuntu has sold me over to linux11:16
KindredI like it very much. =] 11:16
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robotgeekRenich: you get  "out of the box" experience11:17
bob832Renich: my reasons:  easy to setup, great hardware support, plenty of documentation, friendly community11:17
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egkampRenich: I've had ubuntu installed for only about 8 hours, and I'm impressed that everything worked "out of the box", and it seems snappy11:17
cozIt is stabel enough for me to switch some of my residential clients from xp to ubuntu without too much worry11:17
polpakbob832, more than just a friendly community. It's a big community.11:17
fizzHow do I get multiple displays on ubuntu?11:17
globerobotgeek: will that also work for my wireless card?11:17
sanjayRenich: its free, and it works beautifully -- something i could setup even for my mom and know she'll be able to use .. and the IRC support is great for any complex issues ..11:17
polpakbob832, more people makes it much easier to find solutions to your problems11:17
Renichbob832: I'm looking for other kind of reasons... like, uptodate software, great filesystem usage, standard compilance, etc11:17
robotgeekglobe: what?11:18
bob832polpak:  that too11:18
cozThese channesl have many people willing to help unless they get some thing stuck in their crack11:18
robotgeekyes, Renich we are very nice ppl11:18
Renichok, anyone used Fedora Core here?11:18
polpakRenich, yes11:18
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bob832Renich:  lol, i have11:18
polpakRenich, I've used both core 4 and core 311:18
Renichany comparisson notes?11:18
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hmp_will ubuntu detect my external usb hdd, conected to my notebook via pcmcia usb2.0 card (nec chipset) ?11:18
globerobotgeek: I added auto eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces .  will that work for my wifi card when i install it?11:19
polpakRenich, I find it much easier to find software that does what I want in ubuntu11:19
egkampI had to install and configure Fedora Core in my Operating Systems class, once, but I've never actually used it11:19
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robotgeekglobe: yes11:19
sanjayRenich: standard compliance is the only issue i think, for eg. setting up my wireless card is still a bitch, but thats getting better .11:19
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Mandor-Okay, I have a problem and I'm hopping you guys could help me. I just installed Ubuntu Hoary but it didn't detect my SigmaTel C-Major sound chipset, can anyone give me a pointer on how to install it properly?11:19
bob832Renich:  all i can say is that ubuntu is 100 times easier to setup than fedora11:19
globerobotgeek: cool thanks alot...saves me from bringing it up each time ;-)11:19
TachyonI can't play a DVD in Totem, because I get a permission error.  When I run Totem as root, I get another error and this long error in Konsole: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48468711:19
JDahlis there no pygtk package for AMD64?11:19
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mweegkamp: heh. they actually made install fedora in OS class?11:19
polpakRenich, fedora often required me to search all over the internet to find required dependancies to various software packages. And I often had to build them from source11:19
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Renichwhat about the standard directory hierarchy?11:19
polpakTachyon, don't run totem as root11:19
bob832Renich:  like someone mentioned eariler, its that "out-of-box" experience that makes it so great11:20
robotgeekglobe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:20
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mweegkamp: made you install it that is11:20
globerobotgeek: cool. thanks.11:20
egkampwe installed fedora and win2000 on local networks, yep11:20
Renichok, thanx guys for the input... so far the veredict is that ubuntu is more beautiful than anything... right?11:20
sanjayRenich: ext3, standard linux i think -- uses /etc , /var, /home , /boot, etc ..11:20
cozRenich if you don't have any high end needs ubuntu is the way to go unles you want to buy red hat11:20
Tachyonpolpak: Okay, so how do I get DVDs running while not running Totem as root?11:21
polpakRenich, it is much easier to "just use" than any other linux I've seen11:21
Renichnot at all coz... just asking11:21
bob832i agree11:21
CanoeingkiddI need help with fsck - I had to shut down ubuntu the wrong way and now the filesystem must be messed up11:21
egkampRenich: I used to use Mandrake, but I got tired of everything pointing me to a mandrake site...11:21
polpakTachyon, what's the error you get when you don't run as root?11:21
spolaif i paste ubuntu's source in debian's sources.list and run apt-get (dist-?)upgrade, will i fubar things ?11:21
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cozTachyon do you have all of your libs etc installed11:21
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Renichwell, support is defenetly important11:21
egkampRenich: for instance, opening XChat would automaticly log me into #mandriva, regardless of what i was doing...11:21
Renichbut its not as uptodate as I want it to be...11:21
Tachyonpolpak: "Failed to open device /dev/hdc for reading: Permission denied"11:21
Renichyeah, i get the idea egkamp11:22
egkamplikeside, even lynx went to their site11:22
polpakTachyon, ok, so you need to give your user access to the disks11:22
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mwein mandrake, you can get commercial support, right?11:22
Canoeingkiddfsck asked me if I want to clone multiply-claimed blocks....do I?11:22
existancedoesn't ctrl + backspace restart X ?11:22
egkampchanging config files only worked until an update, and mandrake over wrote everything11:22
Seveasmwe, for Ubuntu too :)11:22
locsmifwell, I also asked in #debian to some XFree86 users..11:22
Tachyonpolpak: Okay.  I've looked at fstab but I'm not quite sure how to edit it to do that . . . if editing fstab is even the proper way to go :D11:22
mweexistance: ctrl-alt-bs11:22
locsmifit seems to work11:22
StarQuakeexistance, ctrl-alt-bs iirc11:22
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locsmifthanks guys :)11:22
mweSeveas: really?11:22
polpakTachyon, it's not the fstab11:22
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polpakTachyon, it's your user account11:22
Seveasmwe, ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/paidsupport11:23
polpakTachyon, go to System->Administration->Users & Groups11:23
mweSeveas: I see. I had no idea11:23
Renichwell thanx a lot guys for the opinion and info!11:23
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Falstiusis there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?11:23
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Renichwell, be seing ya! bye11:23
shawarmaCanoeingkidd: Most of the time, fsck knows what to do.11:23
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bob832Renich: bye11:24
shawarmaCanoeingkidd: So yes, you probably want to do that.11:24
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olicatis there any reason i can ssh from my server to my client, and the client can ping the server - but i can't ssh from the client TO the server?11:24
Canoeingkiddshawarma, thanks11:24
shawarmaCanoeingkidd: Any time.11:24
globedns problems: firefox wont resolve names....all others do.  do I have to direct firefox at my resolv.conf manually?11:24
Falstiusolicat: the server isn't running ssh?11:24
Mandor-exit11:24
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olicatFalstius, i've installed it and restarted /etc/init.d/ssh11:25
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bob832olicat:  perhaps a firewall on the client is blocking the ssh port?11:25
cctecxpoi11:25
bob832olicat:  opps, i mean the server11:25
olicatbob832, it's a stock ubuntu install. i dont think it has one, does it?11:26
olicatbob832, yeah, the server. it's running ubuntu11:26
MarcNglobe: shouldn't have to do anything.  From the command line can you do this:     $ host www.cnn.com   ?11:26
markivei managed to get online with wireless on a linksys wap54g today on a dell d600 :) took some fiddling11:26
Sepheebearolicat: try ssh -vv server11:26
Tachyonpolpak: What do I need to modify there?  What do I have to change about my user account?11:26
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cafuego!find 2ico11:27
nekostarolicat, see thats the thing11:27
alex323Hey11:27
polpakIf you go to the properties of your account under the user privileges11:27
nekostarit is sort of firewalled on a default install11:27
ubotuUbuntu Search of '2ico' (2 shown): (/usr/share/pixmaps/{cbm2icon-32x28.xpm|cbm2icon-48x42.xpm}) in multiverse/otherosfs/vice ;; (/usr/share/mantis/gui/images/{excel2icon.gif|pdf2icon.gif|word2icon.gif}) in universe/web/mantis.11:27
alex323What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?11:27
polpakTachyon, you should check the 'Use CD-ROM drives'11:27
cctecxpalguem do BRASIL11:27
nekostarfrom what i can gather it acts stealthed or so11:27
cctecxpBRASIL11:28
erUSULubotu, tell cctecxp about pt11:28
Falstiusolicat, you could try "nmap server.name" and see if the ssh port is open11:28
cctecxpBRASIL11:28
cctecxpBRASIL11:28
cctecxpBRASIL11:28
cctecxpBRASIL11:28
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olicatnekostar, it is?11:28
cctecxpBRASILBRASIL11:28
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MayorMcCheesehow about extended desktop on ubuntu?  When I connect a second monitor it only creates an enlarged version of my current desktop on monitor 111:28
globehost google.com11:28
erUSULcctecxp, stop it11:28
polpaknekostar, no, there are no firewall settings on default ubuntu11:28
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cozhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page11:28
MayorMcCheeseDoes anyone have ideas on that?11:28
Zambbastarckjohann11:28
MarcNMayorMcCheese: google around for 'dual head'.11:29
globeMarcN: yep.  ping and whois also work from within X. firefox only finds websites if I feed it the url11:29
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polpakolicat, by default ubuntu doesn't install an ssh server11:29
FalstiusMayorMcCheese: or twinview or xinerama11:29
cafuego!find wico11:29
ubotuxpm2wico: (An Xpm to Windows .ico converter), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.2.4.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 80 kB11:29
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nekostarpolpak, im telling you how it acts11:29
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nekostarit doesnt play nice with my linksys router etc11:30
MarcNglobe: do you have firefox set to use a proxy?  What do you mean by 'feed it the url'?11:30
mwecafuego: you know you can use apt-cache search and spare us the spam?11:30
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SepheebearMayorMcCheese: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors11:30
stark-johanI've installed apache and it works fine but one thing I dont get. How do I restart it to make config changes without rebooting?11:31
mwecafuego: or /msg the bot11:31
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yves---Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?11:31
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robotgeekcafuego: :)11:31
globeMarcN: I meant 'feed it the ip' .  Firefox is set to 'direct internet connection' (all proxy features off)11:31
apokryphosmwe: might be worth noting that ubotu is cafuego's bot :)11:31
cafuegomwe: No, really? I can /msg it?11:31
mwestark-johan: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart11:31
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hoslerHelp! I installed a new cpu fan, but now my computer wont start.11:31
Sepheebearstark-johan: /etc/init.d/apache restart11:31
mweapokryphos: I see.11:31
mwe:)11:31
robotgeeklol11:32
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PeteyPablohosler: did you ground your self when installing it?11:32
globehosler: is it plugged in correctly (not backwards?)11:32
Falstiushosler, that could be a lot of things.  If you don't want to damage your computer, you should probably take it to a computer expert or repair service.11:32
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hoslerPeteyPablo: yes11:32
hoslerglobe: yes11:32
olicathmm, now nothing works on the server. no web, apt, etc - but still irc11:32
MarcNglobe:  try this:       $ telnet www.cnn.com 8011:33
MarcNGET / HTTP/1.111:33
stark-johanthanks guys. I've only used one linux machine before and on that one I used "service httpd" for apache11:33
shawarmahosler: How far does it get?11:33
kbrooksstark-johan, redhat or fedora11:33
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hoslershawarma: no where11:33
stark-johanok11:33
shawarmahosler: That's not an answer.11:33
globeMarcN - it works just fine.  telnet fetches the ip and connects.11:33
cafuegoubotu: mwe hates you. Go away.11:33
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?11:33
kbrooksstark-johan, also, you're running a linux distribution11:33
mwecafuego: gg11:34
hoslershawarma: i turn it on and it does nothing. no beeps and no info on screen11:34
shawarmahosler: Do any of the fans start?11:34
hoslershawarma: yeah all the fans start11:34
kbrooksstark-johan, not necessarily a "linux machine"11:34
Tachyonpolpak: Okay, I did that . . . and I'm still getting the error.  I've tried closing Totem and remounting the drive, is there anything I need to do for these changes to take effect?11:34
MarcNglobe: strange. firefox and telnet, etc all use the same library calls which check /etc/resolv.conf.  Reasonable stuff in there, right?11:34
globehosler: does the fan spin when you turn it on?11:34
hoslerglobe: yes11:34
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shawarmahosler: ...but no beeps of anything?11:34
hoslershawarma: no beeps11:35
SealyDavenot posting11:35
stark-johana computermachine :-)11:35
shawarmahosler: Check your RAM and your graphics adapter.11:35
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hoslershawarma: check for being loose?11:35
SealyDavePower on Self Test =negative11:35
shawarmahosler: Something like that.11:35
hoslerk11:35
yves---Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?11:35
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robotgeekyves---: hmm, sure11:36
globeMarcN: yep.  it seems to be fine.   I had problems earlier with dns because of two dhcp servers on my lan, but I fixed that.  then I had to chattr +i resolv.conf, but now everything but ff uses the dns correctly.  I even went as far as to restart x11:36
yves---thx robotgeek11:36
shawarmayves---: alt-f2 and then "gnome-terminal" or "xterm"11:36
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bob832olicat:  walked away from the keyboard....is your problem fixed?11:37
robotgeekyves---: System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps11:37
MarcNglobe: and did you restart firefox?11:37
yves---shawarma, still shuts down...11:37
cafuegoapokryphos: That should do it.11:37
robotgeekyves---: go to terminal tab, and select gnome-terminal11:37
yves---robotgeek, goin' there now11:37
apokryphoscafuego: ok, will test11:37
globeMarcN, yep.  I am going to reboot computer, I think11:37
shawarmayves---: Ok.. Do what robotgeek is saying. It sounds right. ;-)11:38
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yves---robotgeek, I am in there11:38
apokryphos_cafuego: doesn't seem to respond, still11:38
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shawarmahosler: Any luck?11:38
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stark-johananother apache question: I've mounted a fat32 filesystem and then made a --bind to a part of it (my webroot) from /var/www/. The fat system is mounted with 000 or "no permissions", is this unsafe and/or is there a better way of directing my http-visitors to the actual webroot?11:39
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thoegerHi there -  Another question: Is it safe to empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?11:39
shawarmastark-johan: It won't work if the permissions are 000.11:39
cafuegoapokryphos_: Ok, then now it's a freenode issue, not an ubotu one :-)11:39
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yves---robotgeek, I am in System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps11:40
ossieguys i want to make a backup of my current install what do u reccommed , preferably in the form of an image i can deploy back11:40
robotgeekyves---: are you saying that gnome-terminal crashes?11:40
yves---yep11:40
shawarmayves---: Can you explain what you did that make it stop working?11:40
apokryphoscafuego: you can change ubotu's modes, no?11:40
shawarmabrb11:40
mwestark-johan: I think I'd prefer a symlink11:40
cafuegoapokryphos: The bot will -E, so as soon as freenode disable the forced +e it'll be fixed.11:40
yves---robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(11:40
hoslershawarma: no luck11:40
cafuegoapokryphos: Yes, but ubotu isn't +E now.11:40
apokryphoscafuego: if so you can alter it so that he can receive/respond to /msgs from unidentified users11:40
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yves---robotgeek, but the superuser shell works11:41
stark-johanmve > would a symlink be better than an alias?11:41
cafuegoapokryphos: I think the network re-enforces it.11:41
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robotgeekyves---: okay, go to the terminal tab, and select standard xterm for now11:41
apokryphoscafuego: you can still override it though with individual umode settings; one sec, I'll get the command.11:41
Falstiusis there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?11:41
yves---robotgeek, done... still crashes :(11:42
cafuegoFalstius: Not until macromedia pull their finger out. Same goes for java and mplayer.11:42
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KindredFalstius: nope11:42
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robotgeekyves---: hmm, one sec11:42
epphey is there a nice editor for java?11:42
skonBlueFish :-D11:42
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apokryphosSeveas: ping?11:43
Seveasapokryphos, ICMP ECHO REPLY11:43
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mwethere isn't even sun-java for 64bit?!11:43
cafuegoSeveas: What, no timeout-exceeded? ;-)11:43
apokryphosSeveas: :). Do you remember by any chance the chanserv command to allow non-registered users to /msg you? Can't seem to find it again.11:43
cafuegomwe: There is, but that has no working plugin.11:43
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Seveascafuego, *g* no, rsync leaves some bandwidth ;)11:43
cafuegoapokryphos: Isn't it just unmode -E?11:43
eppwhat is the name of an editor for java?11:44
cafuegos/n//11:44
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robotgeekyves---: what exactly did you change?11:44
Seveasapokryphos, /msg nickserv set unfiltered on11:44
Falstiusepp, eclipse is the nice ide I think.11:44
apokryphosthat's it, thanks11:44
mweepp: vim, nano, emacs, kate, gedit, ...11:44
cafuegoapokryphos/Seveas: Ok, lemme see...11:44
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eppmwe, do these have a compile button in them?11:44
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yves---robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(11:44
apokryphosthere was me poking around in chanserv, gah.11:45
mweepp: compile button. no.11:45
KaminixHow do I compile something with an older version of gcc?11:45
robotgeekyves---: from where?11:45
eppmwe, is there one that does?11:45
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mweepp: you want eclipse, I think11:45
eppok11:45
mweepp: it's an ide though11:45
adam_hi all11:45
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Inf3ctedFxHello everyone11:45
eppmwe, ide?11:45
robotgeekyves---: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor11:46
ossiemake oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?11:46
yves---robotgeek, from the edit menu within the terminal... I think11:46
thoegerSorry if I'm flooding... Is it safe to remove (almost) everything in my /usr/share/doc ?11:46
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eppmwe i cant find it in apt.11:46
mweepp: integrated development environment11:46
robotgeekKaminix: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (or whatever)11:46
yves---robotgeek, am in config editor11:46
robotgeekyves---: /apps/gnome-terminal/global/default_profile11:46
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mweepp: you need to enable universe then sudo apt-get update11:47
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eppi did...11:47
eppbreezy universe...11:47
ITSa341Good Evening everyone11:47
adam_i'm desperate to move from windows but ubuntu doesn't do all the things i want it to...  are there better distro's to start with or is there a good source for those wanting to jump from the dark side?11:47
jcinkHi, sorry to ask such a n00bish question, but I cant find this in docs, I'm wondering what are the minimum system requirements to run Ubuntu? Thanks.11:47
Hikaru79What is the difference between the FDISK partition types "W95 FAT32" and "W95 FAT32 (LBA)"? What does the 'LBA' signify?11:47
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eppadam_ what do u need to do?11:47
Hikaru79jcink, quite low.11:47
Benjamin_Lcan somebody help me on this one ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11018711:47
adam_install Freemind for example11:48
shawarmahosler: How old is the machine?11:48
mweepp: and apt-cache search eclipse-sdk doesn't give a hit?11:48
eppoh... yeah11:48
Kaminixrobotgeek: I have /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, but setting cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 doesn't work. =/11:48
eppmy bad11:48
adam_should be easy but so many things have gone wrong11:48
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alex323What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?11:48
adam_i don;t even now where to install app's too11:48
ChousukeKaminix: you need to set CC11:48
McJerryadam_ y not install ubuntu then install windows in VMware? that will keep your winapps handy11:48
Chousukenot cc11:48
eppadam_ u tried to install ubuntu already?11:48
KaminixI tried both.11:48
ChousukeKaminix: Case-sensitive ;P11:48
yves---robotgeek, am in default_profile. Entry says "super-utilisateur", which is something I made :(11:48
adam_tried installing vmware player but that failed11:48
mwealex323: learn to use apt-file search11:48
ossiemake oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?11:48
skonepp: I already said BlueFish11:49
ChousukeKaminix: did you export it?11:49
adam_am running ubuntu on a dual boot machine11:49
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Benjamin_Lhow do I check whether  X or gdm doesn't start up?11:49
thoegerjcink: what do you want to use for it?11:49
KaminixChousuke, what? Export?11:49
robotgeekyves---: change that entry to Default, and the next entry to [Default] 11:49
Chousukeexport CC=whatever11:49
McJerryadam_: linux is linux, Ubuntu just starts you out with prepackaged software....you can add or take away to any distro11:49
eppadam_, did u use apt?11:49
yves---robotgeek, yesssss. It works :o)11:49
yves---thx man11:49
robotgeekKaminix: if you are saying on the basis of gcc -v, then you are mistaken11:49
robotgeekyves---: np11:49
adam_for freemind?  No...11:49
adam_ok, McJerry11:49
KaminixI typed ./configure cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (it said lower case in the help-file, allthough I tried both)11:49
McJerryadam_: what failed with VMware11:50
yves---robotgeek, gooday then.11:50
revwhat causes this error/how do i fix it when compiling ubuntu kernel (git) with make-kpkg? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639311:50
mwealex323: however, on my machine it returns lessdisks-terminal: sbin/start-stop-daemon11:50
robotgeekKaminix: ./configure script will pick up 3.411:50
yves---robotgeek, keep up the good work :)11:50
eppadam, if u cant get ubuntu to work then i would go with mandriva... its mostly meant for home users.11:50
KaminixNo, it picks up 4.x11:50
adam_just wondered whether any were more ~"ready to go"... rather than having to install all sorts of stuff to even view news at bbc11:50
robotgeekyves---: sure :)11:50
alex323apt-file?11:50
eppadam, the easyest way to install stuff is to use apt.11:50
alex323I don't have that installed.11:50
PeteyPablosudo apt-get install programname11:51
mwealex323: install it11:51
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Benjamin_Lanyone ? I think I miss a package but I don't know which ^^11:51
alex323What's the package?11:51
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adam_McJerry... I got some error message abut a C Compiler not being present so I took someone's advice (from the Southend-on-Sea LUG and upgraded GCC11:51
adam_DOH11:51
alpha255what about synaptic?11:51
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hoslershawarma: i fixed it. i had a heat censor for under my cpu which didnt let the cpu get installed snuggly enough. took that out and let my cpu fan go full throttle and it worked.11:51
PeteyPablosynaptic sucks11:51
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cafuegoapokryphos: Ok, if this works I am teh l33+ perl hacker.11:51
robotgeekKaminix: that is so very weird11:51
alpha255nice gui for installing right?11:51
alex323Never mind.11:51
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mwealex323: the package is apt-file :)11:51
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eppalpha255, synaptic shows all the packages ready for download for ubuntu on the net.11:51
alpha255yep11:52
Eleafadam_, do you have the build-essentials package installed?11:52
alpha255works well for me11:52
KaminixERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x11:52
KaminixQEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x11:52
KaminixIt is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU11:52
KaminixTo use this compiler anyway, configure with --disable-gcc-check11:52
alpha255nice gui for newbie11:52
mweKaminix: don't paste in here11:52
KaminixWops, it was supposed to pm everything.11:52
KaminixSorry11:52
adam_Eleaf... I've no idea what you're talking about I'm afraid... I know Windows but have no idea how to get Linux to do what I know I want to11:52
cafuegoapokryphos: 09:52.28 NickServ: <== 'Toggled UnFiltered [ON] '11:52
globehow can I get screen rez up to decent size?  screen res applet wont let me > 800x60011:52
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apokryphoscafuego: cool11:53
lampshadeI installed Fluxbox, But I have a weird problem where none of the menu items work.  It has to be an error with my menu files, but how can I fix this11:53
Eleafadam_, sudo apt-get install build-essential that has some basic compiler tools11:53
mwe!tell globe about fixres11:53
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alpha255globe, what you running breezy?11:53
mweglobe: see what ubotu /msg'ed you11:53
N6REJdoes anyone know how to control permissions on a LVM partition?11:53
KaminixShould I try removing /usr/bin/gcc and replace it with a symlink to gcc-3.4? Or is that a bad idea?11:53
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ossiehi cafuego , im trying to compile kernel, and i have run the make oldconfig command and made a mistake, now it dont prompt me for any input when i run it, how can i delete it and start again11:53
jdierlampshade open the .fluxbox menu file and edit it manually.11:54
thoegeralpha255: I agree. Don't know what's so bad about synaptics...11:54
mevvisanyone using Dapper??11:54
Benjamin_Ldoes anyone know whats the problem when gdm tries to start (maybe X) and it flickers and all I get is a black screen, but the monitor is on11:54
alpha255thoeger, it's good for newbie and gui interface11:54
globemwe....I am using irssi-text : how do I see pm?11:54
robotgeekossie: make distclean11:54
thoegeralpha255: perfectly aggree11:54
mweBenjamin_L: you have to look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:54
alpha255thoeger, for servers... cli is the only way11:54
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thoegerBenjamin_L: On breezy or dapper?11:54
robotgeekglobe: alt + 1/2/311:54
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ossiethanx robotgeek11:54
apokryphosKaminix: that actually should be fine; do it for g++ too11:54
adam_Eleaf... just installed them11:54
thoegeralpha255: Sure. But most Ubuntu users are running desktops, not servers.11:55
Eleafadam_, are you so excited?11:55
robotgeekapokryphos: is it export CXX11:55
globemwe: thanks11:55
adam_can barely sit still11:55
globerobotgeek: thanks11:55
mweglobe: it should open a new window with the msg. use alt-n (n being a number) to switch windows11:55
adam_;-)11:55
Benjamin_Lthoeger, dapper, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11018711:55
adam_dir11:55
alpha255thoeger, i'd agree11:55
jdierlampshade - you have to change your .fluxbox/init file to include the line session.menuFile:~/.fluxbox/menu11:55
alpha255with that11:55
apokryphosrobotgeek: I forget how to search for exported variables; not sure what to set, either. Pretty sure you can specify it on configure though11:55
alpha255it's a nice desktop11:55
thoegerSorry if I'm flooding... Can I sefaly empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?11:56
alpha255and easy to install debian11:56
sheamight there be any maya/ubuntu users around?11:56
robotgeekapokryphos: printenv11:56
ossierobotgeek, do u know what the m/n/ stand for when compile a kernel, for instance, BLK_DEV [n/m/?]  i choose M thinking that is yes????11:56
jdierthen you have to create ~/.fluxbox.menu11:56
thoegerBenjamin_L: Sorry; I'm running Breezy11:56
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apokryphosrobotgeek: thanks11:56
robotgeekossie: not include/or compile as module/help11:56
N6REJanyone help with LVM ?11:56
ossieif i want to include it should i use n or m ???11:57
robotgeekossie: yes, module should be fine11:57
mweapokryphos: isn't setting CC to the compiler version you want to use usually sufficient?11:57
apokryphosrobotgeek: symlinks would be fine. They should've made a dpkg-reconfigure for this11:57
ossiecheers robotgeek11:57
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robotgeekapokryphos: yes, a /etc/alternatives for gcc would be nice11:57
apokryphosmwe: if that's what it was, then yes.11:57
eppis there a program to hook my pda to linux?11:57
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eppis there a program to hook my pda to linux?11:57
globewhat is Horay?11:57
Benjamin_Lmwe, how do I get the log from last boot ?11:58
jdierdoes anyone know how to make alt-tab show open apps from all of my available desktops?11:58
Eleafglobe, Horay is what you say when you are happy.  Ubuntu Hoary is the older version of ubuntu.11:58
mweBenjamin_L: /var/log/Xorg.1.log IIRC11:58
ossiesorry to keep on robotgeek , what tool do u reccommend for making a backup of ubuntu as i have a habit of reinstalling all the time, would be nice to have a backup instead , like a image11:58
globeEleaf ;-D11:59
apokryphosossie: good idea to have your /home on a seperate partition11:59
lucasvoossie: just backup /etc/, /home, /var/11:59
robotgeekossie: hmm, i am not sure. i don't reinstall at all. yes, a separate /home is a neat idea11:59
polpakapokryphos, indeed. having /home on it's own partition can be invaluable11:59
lucasvoossie: /etc/ for configs, /home for your files, /var for logs and other things11:59
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ossieapokryphos, im having major problems formating and partioning with linux, not just ubuntu either11:59
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lucasvoossie: why?12:00
N6REJrobotgeek, you have any idea where to get help for LVM?12:00

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