[12:00] <Miles> MarcN: it said "selecting mysql-client-4.1 instead of mysql-client," and then whined about "the following packages have unmet dependencies"  two about perl, and one about mysql-common-4.1 but it is not installable, followed by an E: Broken Packages.....   thoughts?
[12:00] <sally_> moodog: I dont have the install cd, just some OEM reinstall discs, not the XP discs
[12:00] <kcodenamet> lol
[12:00] <navarone> hosler...then stop banging...<s>
[12:00] <Ganjhi> Hmm, it doesn't seem to be adding Root Terminal to the System Menu.
[12:00] <hosler> navarone: even if i lay down a glass of water it will restart
[12:00] <vb_coder> Seveas: are you saying opera can not be installed on breezy?
[12:00] <MarcN> Miles: which ubuntu version are you running?  How did you install mysql?
[12:00] <Ganjhi> I'll just open it in terminal
[12:00] <moodog> sally_: you might be able to make some recovery disks with the system tools in windows
[12:00] <sally_> maskd:  sda1 and sda2 are windows and sda5 and sda6 are linux swap and ext3
[12:01] <Miles> 5.10, installed mysql via "bitrock" lamp stack installer from sugarcrm 3.5.1 installer download
[12:01] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on?
[12:01] <Seveas> vb_coder, yes it can, if you choose the debian eth version
[12:01] <navarone> vb_coder, I have opera installed...dl the deb from the opera site
[12:01] <vb_coder> Seveas: what is eth?
[12:01] <sephran> ignore: ntfs typo
[12:01] <fraggsta> hey, I'm finally IRCing from my iBook which is now almost FULLY operational running Ubuntu :D
[12:01] <maskd> sally_: so you dont have an OEM disc that is used to install windows?
[12:02] <Seveas> vb_coder, i mean etch, look at deb.opera.com
[12:02] <fangorious> anyone know why network-manager requires bind9?
[12:02] <Epix> where can i download a reiserfsprogs DEB file on windows. I need to use it on a comp with no network.
[12:02] <Seveas> vb_coder, http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/etch/non-free/
[12:02] <MarcN> Miles: why not install mysql from apt-get instead?  Then you have no dependency issues.    Or you can see if that installer provided a package for the clients.  I never install using dpkg -i foo.deb if i can help it.
[12:02] <fangorious> the dhcdbd dependency I understand
[12:02] <moodog> sally_: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to install the recovery console
[12:02] <hosler> MarcN: what could be loose?
[12:03] <moodog> sally_: then: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to fix the mbr
[12:03] <sally_> maskd: right, I have some OEM discs that will put the machine back into the state it was when I got it, but I don't even have those with me now
[12:03] <navarone> hosler...how old is 'puter...and is it laptop or desktop?
[12:03] <sally_> moodog: thanks a ton I will check those out
[12:03] <MarcN> hosler: anything.  memory, cards, mobo hitting the case.  anything that can cause a short
[12:03] <Ganjhi> How do you navigate to a certain file in Root Terminal?
[12:03] <Miles> MarcN:  due to my hideous newbie status, I figured it would be best to go with a stack installer, as opposed to module at a time.. and since at this point mysql does function, i'm hesitant to restart it
[12:03] <lampshade> What's the correct order for installing Xorg and then FLuxbox as well?  I tried last night and ended up very frustrated with the two not playing along with eachother.
[12:03] <moodog> sally_: sorry, seems you need the setup cd to use that option too...
[12:03] <hosler> navarone: its a desktop i assembled about 2 years ago
[12:03] <MarcN> fangorious: because it needs a d-bus aware dhcpd client.
[12:03] <sally_> moodog: yeah I just realized
[12:04] <nalioth> lampshade: one needs xorg in order for flux to work
[12:04] <navarone> hosler...have you added any hardware lately?
[12:04] <Zambba> lampshade: Install xserver-xorg, gdm/kdm/xdm and fluxbox
[12:04] <MarcN> Miles: check to see if they provide client packages.
[12:04] <fraggsta> there's just one thing..how do I set it up so that command+click and alt+click generate middle/right click in X on a Mac?
[12:04] <hosler> MarcN: this sounds funny, but i forgot to put that little plastic things between the screws and the motherboard. could that be the problem?
[12:04] <melodie> lampshade, the server first, the gui after
[12:04] <hosler> navarone: ho
[12:04] <hosler> no*
[12:04] <hosler> lol
[12:05] <fangorious> MarcN: that's why it needs dhcdbd, which I understand. I don't understand bind9 (isn't that a DNS server?)
[12:05] <MarcN> hosler: I'd bet that is the problem.
[12:05] <nalioth> fraggsta: you'll probably have better luck asking Mac/OSX questions somewhere else
[12:05] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)
[12:05] <robotgeek> lampshade: if you apt-get install fluxbox, it will install xserver first
[12:05] <navarone> hosler...what psu you use? watts?
[12:05] <fraggsta> nalioth, as I said, this ibook is now running Ubuntu (solely)
[12:05] <hosler> navarone: Antec 430W
[12:05] <moodog> sally_: you have /boot as a seperate partion?
[12:05] <hosler> MarcN: Where can i get those?
[12:05] <hosler> i odnt know what they are called
[12:05] <MarcN> fangorious: yeah, it does some funky things with using a local, caching only dns server.  The Red Hat guy who implemented it was at our LUG and said it was needed for some VPN (I think) support.
[12:05] <navarone> hosler has the reboots started recently?
[12:06] <sally_> moodog: no, sda1 is some hidden system restore partition that was on the machine when I got it, sda5 and sda6 are swap and /
[12:06] <hosler> navarone: no. they started a while back, but they have become more frequent. I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE!
[12:06] <MarcN> hosler: beats me.  Just make sure that the mobo never touches metal on the case.
[12:06] <fangorious> MarcN: man, I was hoping he had gotten away from that. I made DNS really freaking slow last time I tried it on Fedora
[12:06] <hosler> shoot
[12:06] <Miles> MarcN:  any direction on how to look? there's a mysql folder, what would I be looking for?
[12:06] <navarone> hosler> when syatem reboots what kind of beeps do you get at post? Just one normal or any other?
[12:06] <moodog> sally_: other than strinking your linux partion to the minimum and using the free space that created I can't think of another option.
[12:07] <MarcN> Miles: i've not used sugar nor that lamp installer.
[12:07] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   did you setup a root user?
[12:07] <ardchoille> sally_: is that an hp computer?
[12:07] <moodog> sally_: other than fixmbr
[12:07] <MarcN> Miles: mysql-client*.deb
[12:07] <nalioth> fraggsta: well congratulations (i use a 3 button mouse, so idk your asnwer)
[12:07] <sally_> ardchoille: it's an acer
[12:07] <hosler> navarone: well thats another thing. sometimes it will beep once (thats normal) and other times it wont beep at all and just sit there.
[12:07] <Miles> when you install mysql in that way, you get a mysql folder in home yes? Does that folder contain the client app you describe? Or am I mixed up here?
[12:07] <sephran> it's been 24:00 hours, if I finish this..I can finally head back home...through the snow, and ice...and cold.
[12:08] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)
[12:08] <sally_> moodog: you are under the impression that if I just format the partition to ntfs grub will not be able to boot?
[12:08] <ardchoille> sally_: yeah, manufacturers often do that so you can restore the original OS rather than having to ship the OS CD's
[12:08] <navarone> hosler I would disconnect and open up and make sure everything is connected properly and cards are seated and such
[12:08] <hosler> k
[12:08] <fraggsta> nalioth, it's an old ibook, I'm going to use it pretty much only as something to use in bed when I'm being lazy, so I kinda need to get the trackpad to generate middle/right clicks..but I'll be heading off to google now :)
[12:08] <hosler> navarone: do you know what those things are called that go between the screws and the motherboard?
[12:08] <navarone> hosler? I've never put a machine together from scratch so you ar eahead of me on that...lol
[12:08] <nalioth> fraggsta: f12 is the right click key
[12:08] <maskd> screw mounts or something arent they
[12:08] <robotgeek> fraggsta: try F11 and F12
[12:09] <hosler> ok
[12:09] <MarcN> Miles: I always use apt-get install WHATEVER which satisfies all dependencies.  mysql's binaries should be in /usr/bin/, not under /home,  of course who knows what that fancy installer does
[12:09] <navarone> hosler> I know what you mean...like bushings or silicone washers?
[12:09] <fraggsta> nalioth/robotgeek sweet, that works great.  Thanks guys!
[12:09] <maskd> hosler: you shoudl always remember to have them, screwing the motherboard straight to the back plate can have some back side effects
[12:09] <Ganjhi> Has anybody here ever installed Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on Ubuntu? The Freeware game?
[12:09] <pashaw> hosler,   brass spacers or the tiny washers?
[12:10] <Toba> ubotu: tell me about firefox15
[12:10] <hosler> pashaw: i dont know. all i know is that they are there so the motherboard doesnt touch any metal.
[12:10] <sephran> whats the command to unmount?
[12:10] <calamari> Ganjhi: no.. I'd like to though, once I repair the fan on my 3d card
[12:10] <Zambba> sephran: umount
[12:10] <pashaw> hosler,   thats not true
[12:10] <Ganjhi> It's a pretty fun game Calamari, you'll enjoy it.
[12:11] <calamari> Ganjhi: yeah, I played it in windows
[12:11] <hosler> pashaw: then what do they do?
[12:11] <pashaw> hosler,   the screws are what grounds the motherboard to the case
[12:11] <Ganjhi> I just can't figure out how to navigate to a specific file in root terminal.
[12:11] <danny> marcN, was creating a webserver earlier and installed php, and apache2 and they work f9, i installed mysql how do i check that it is working
[12:11] <fraggsta> Ganjhi, I emerged it once while I ran gentoo (oh god I ended up hating gentoo), but that..uh...doesn't help you much sorry :S
[12:11] <MarcN> Miles:  you really want to install mysql-client because it includes mysqlcheck, mysqldump, etc.
[12:11] <Ganjhi> Other than that, it seems straight forward enough to install.
[12:11] <Zambba> Can I ask ubotu to tell me things in query?
[12:11] <pashaw> hosler,   using the washers helps you to not over tighten them
[12:11] <maskd> Ganjhi: just cd to a directory
[12:11] <hosler> oh
[12:11] <Miles> MarcN: i've got a "mysql-admin" but no mysql-client as you describe it.. so the apt-get syntax to get mysql-client is what?
[12:11] <Ganjhi> ...
[12:12] <pashaw> hosler,    you dont want to crush the board    i never use those washers   built  hmmm   50+ puters
[12:12] <maskd> Ganjhi: what happens when you use the cd command?
[12:12] <hosler> pashaw: are you sure? because my friends psu blew up and the guys who fixed it said it was because those things werent installed.
[12:12] <MarcN> Miles: mysql-admin is the MySQL gui, mysql-client is the command line set of tools.
[12:13] <pashaw> hosler,  power supplies go out all the time    has nothing to do with those washers
[12:13] <Ganjhi> I have not used the cd command, nor do I know the cd command. I'm THE linux noobie of the week.
[12:13] <maskd> hosler: it's one of those things that are better to have
[12:13] <hosler> pashaw: ok well im stumped. im pretty sure something is shorting out, but i cant figure out what.
[12:13] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Ganjhi about cli
[12:13] <maskd> Ganjhi: cd stands for current directory
[12:13] <Ganjhi> Perfect, thanks.
[12:13] <Ganjhi> This'll help loads.
[12:13] <MarcN> danny: mysql?   from the command line:   $ mysql
[12:13] <Miles> MarcN:  Ahh.. clarity.  Cool. Is there a way to determine what version of mySQL i'm using at this point, does the version of the client have to match up with the version of mysql?
[12:13] <john_> Anyone know much about Amorak?
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,   if its shorting     hookup the motherboard and powe supply  outside the case on a clean counter top  or cardboard
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,    wood would be good also
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,    then you elimate the case   for the short
[12:14] <pashaw> sorry offtopic
[12:14] <navarone> hmmm...carve out stump for computer case...<s>
[12:14] <john_> I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?
[12:14] <danny> MarcN, it dont say owt
[12:14] <thegladiator> !paste
[12:14] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:15] <MarcN> Miles: doesn't have to be.  the client versions don't have to match the server versions.  just need to speak compatible wire protocols, which it would complain about if it was a problem.
[12:15] <danny> MarcN, not even command not found
[12:15] <oskude> i used linux like over 4years, but i never copied an audio cd, whats the "best" way ?
[12:15] <hosler> pashaw: so just never use a case?
[12:15] <danny> MarcN, does tht mean its workin?
[12:15] <MarcN> danny: then you too need to install mysql-client.
[12:15] <fraggsta> oskude, I like to use "grip"
[12:15] <lampshade> I have installed xserver-xorg, fluxbox, and now tightvncserver, how can I start X or better yet, start the vncserver and just vnc right into fluxbox?  Is that possible at this point?  DO I need to startx before vnc or does vnc start x?
[12:15] <pashaw> hosler,     thats how you troublehsoot a short
[12:16] <hosler> pashaw: and if it does keep restarting, what does that tell me?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> startx?
[12:16] <maskd> oskude: sound juicer comes with ubuntu
[12:16] <Miles> MarcN: when I ran"  sudo apt-get install mysql-client "  I got the packages have unmet dependencies errors.. did I type that incorrectly?
[12:16] <thegladiator> since a week each time I open syanaptic i get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6345 , each time i do a apt update and still it comes after next reboot
[12:16] <oskude> fraggsta: i got only one drive, does "grip" make an image firts and then burn wiht that ime ?
[12:16] <MarcN> danny: mysql is usually packaged up as a server, client and gui.  All don't need to be installed, only those pieces you may need.   say just the server or just the client, but I like to have both
[12:16] <sephran> is there a zip program for ubuntu that windows can open?
[12:17] <oskude> or, can gnomebaker copy an audio cd ?
[12:17] <meepy> I'm having a problem installing the newest guinotifications, I downloaded the source package and ./configure it - But then it gives me this error "checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met" But I have gaim? :S
[12:17] <thegladiator> sephran, what exactly are you looking for ?
[12:17] <fraggsta> oskude, actually..it won't do what you want, grip is just for ripping sorry
[12:17] <gnomefreak> oskude, yes it can (should)
[12:17] <maskd> sephran: winRAR unpacks a lot of formats
[12:17] <MarcN> Miles:  install those dependencies too.
[12:17] <john_> I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?
[12:17] <danny> MarcN, well i put apt-get install mysql-client and it sed mysql-client is already newest version
[12:17] <thegladiator> john_, ask in #amarok
[12:17] <sephran> I just want to transfer files from this pc, to the laptop on the network.  zip it up, send it through email
[12:18] <MarcN> danny: $ mysql says not such command?
[12:18] <Miles> MarcN: all three of them that are listed say "but it is not installable" after them..
[12:18] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  try taking the in out of the list and see if it works than?
[12:18] <fraggsta> oskude, wouldn't doing this work?  "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso; cdrecord image.iso" ?
[12:18] <pashaw> hosler,   shorted power supply   or bad motherboard    shorting through the case     the washers wont fix that     or youll need em on top and bottom on the mounts and screw heads
[12:18] <danny> MarcN, yep
[12:18] <MarcN> Miles: I'd blame those random mysql debs that the installer provided you.
[12:18] <keyhack> Has anyone attempted to change Ubuntu to use bootsplash instead of usplash?
[12:18] <thegladiator> how do i gnomefreak  ?
[12:18] <oskude> OH MAN, IM SO BLIND, i think that "copy audio cd" was in gnomebaker allread, dof :)
[12:18] <oskude> dof = doh
[12:19] <MarcN> danny: does it show up when you do       dpkg -L mysql-client-4.1  ?   should be in /usr/bin/
[12:19] <oskude> but OH, seems it can only "direct copy"...
[12:19] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, in.archive.ubuntu.com i guess it my setting according to the country i belong to .
[12:20] <fraggsta> I'm curious though, WOULD making an image of an audio CD with dd and then burning it work?  I think you need to pass an argument to cdrecord to tell it you're burning an audio CD but other than that I don't see why it wouldn't
[12:20] <Miles> MarcN: perhaps we're running farther than we have to, do you know where the phpmyadmin stores it's password values?  if it gathers them from mysql, where does mysql store them, so that I can confirm that i'm using the right password?
[12:20] <hosler> pashaw: ok thanks. im gonna go experiment now.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list once in there take in out and leave it withou a country code than save and than sudo apt-get update again
[12:20] <maskd> sephran: you can open zip files with the default archive manager that comes with ubuntu; file roller
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you dont need the country code in there
[12:20] <sephran> I want to make the zip maskd
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, the us repos are down alot so i took us out
[12:21] <sephran> and have windows be able to open it
[12:21] <calamari> fraggsta: does dd give you the full raw sectors?
[12:21] <MarcN> Miles: phpmyadmin takes the username/password you provide and uses it to connect to mysql.  The mysql server decides if those will let you in.
[12:21] <maskd> sephran: ah.
[12:21] <mariano> hi
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, also while your in there let me know what the very first repo is
[12:21] <maskd> yeah you can create zips with archive manager
[12:21] <MarcN> Miles: try using localhost for hostname, root for username and blank for password.
[12:21] <maskd> sephran: you can create zips with archive manager
[12:21] <Miles> MarcN: okee, tryin
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, is the very first one a cdrom repo?
[12:22] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just a sec...geting into the folder
[12:22] <gnomefreak> k
[12:22] <fraggsta> Is there any PowerPC package equivalent to win32codecs, or is my dream of playing divxs doomed?
[12:22] <maskd> fraggsta: ewww divx
[12:22] <vb_coder> i have windows xp installed on a 120 gb harddrive taking up all of the space with another ntfs partition that has my backed up files saved to it. when the ubuntu partitioner came up from the install cd, it has a little lighting bolt indicating that the partition with the backed up files is the bootable partition. is this correct?
[12:22] <oskude> fraggsta: pwerpc is doomed :) scr
[12:22] <mjr> fraggsta, you should be able to play them using gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg along with totem
[12:23] <oskude> *scrn
[12:23] <danny> MarcN, it says it not installed
[12:23] <thegladiator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6346
[12:23] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, ^
[12:23] <gnomefreak> i saw ty
[12:23] <MarcN> danny:  So it isn't installed.  try    apt-cache search ^mysql-client
[12:24] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  put a # infront of that very first repo
[12:24] <vb_coder> can someone please help me install ubuntu with xp? i have been trying for days with no success
[12:24] <MarcN> danny: and then install the version it tells you.  mysql-client-4.1 in my case (on dapper).  but apt-get install mysql-client should do the right thing.
[12:24] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, and take the # away from the rest of the repos
[12:24] <maskd> is ATbot talking to anybody else?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ATbot,  how bout you dont pm me again and no i am not here to play games
[12:25] <ATbot> I am ATbot
[12:25] <Miles> MarcN: I've read abunch about mysql hashing passwords differently from version to version, could there be an incompability there?  root and blank don't work, and neither do any of the three combos i've used thruout the mahcine
[12:25] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, could you tell me in number terms ?
[12:25] <oskude> !audiocd
[12:25] <ubotu> oskude: No idea
[12:25] <oskude> :)
[12:25] <thegladiator> i dont understand this repo thing actually
[12:25] <guanaco> how do I install and run Jabber?
[12:25] <fraggsta> PPC is doomed, yes, but then I DID get a free ibook :)
[12:25] <erUSUL> vb_coder, what is the problem? it should be pretty strightforward
[12:25] <thegladiator> like the first line ?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, put a # in line 001
[12:25] <gnomefreak> before the deb
[12:25] <thegladiator> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[12:25] <erUSUL> guanaco, a jabber server? or client?
[12:26] <oskude> !copy audio cd
[12:26] <ubotu> oskude: Are you smoking crack?
[12:26] <guanaco> a server
[12:26] <oskude> DOH
[12:26] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  give me a min i will fix and paste what it should look like ok?
[12:26] <danny> MarcN, it come up wiv, mysql-client - mysql database client binaries and mysql-client-4.1 - mysql database client binaries
[12:26] <navarone> vb_coder, are both your windows partitions ntfs?
[12:26] <Epix> parted is running, system appears to be frozen!
[12:26] <thegladiator> ok thank you . that wud be perfect
[12:26] <nickrud> !tell thegladiator about components
[12:26] <MarcN> Miles: it really should be the username/password that you put in the sugar CRM configuration file.   What version did the installer provide?  3.23 or 5.0.x?  that could be a problem with a 4.1.x based clients.
[12:27] <MarcN> danny: yes, install that
[12:27] <Miles> is there a situation where phpmyadmin would be unable to communicate with mysql?
[12:27] <thegladiator> nickrud, yes ?
[12:27] <Jochen> Hi ubuntu guys
[12:27] <thegladiator> what was that about ?
[12:27] <Jochen> Can somebody tell me how to install a debian package file?
[12:27] <vb_coder> erUSUL: here is my setup. i have 2 ntfs partitions taking up the entire 120gb hdd. i want to resize the partition with windows installed. when the ubuntu partitioning tool came up, it said the partition without xp installed is the bootable partition by showing a little lightening bolt next to it. im not sure if this is correct because i thought the ntfs partition with windows installed should be the bootable partition.
[12:27] <nalioth> Jochen: what program are you wanting?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6347
[12:27] <oskude> Jochen: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:27] <Jochen> opera
[12:27] <danny> MarcN, wot mysql-client-4.1?
[12:27] <Jochen> thank you
[12:27] <nickrud> thegladiator, sorry, you asked for info about what repos were
[12:28] <MarcN> Miles: could be that your php doesn't have mysql support.   Create an index.php in the web space and put in it  <?phpinfo()?>  and hit it via the web.  should see something about mysql support
[12:28] <Epix> Ok, im running parted in live. HD light is off, cursor wont move, screen says something like shrinking 1%
[12:28] <fraggsta> oskude, oh curse you and your quick typing..I hate this damn keyboard
[12:28] <MarcN> danny: yes.   sudo apt-get install mysql-client-4.1
[12:28] <Epix> Should i be worried?
[12:28] <thegladiator> oh thanks nickrud
[12:28] <oskude> Jochen: but i dont advice you to use NOT ubuntu packages
[12:29] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  that should fix you up :)
[12:29] <ScislaC> searched ubuntuforums with no success... on Hoary, I could use Ctrl+Alt+F7 and Ctrl+Alt+F8 to switch between two users. I can't seem to do this in Breezy... Anyone have any tips?
[12:29] <erUSUL> vb_coder, i guess thar XP uses ntldr in the mbr to boot itself and do not rely on the bootable partition
[12:29] <keyhack> After I have my machine installed and configured the way I want, what is the best way to snap an image of it, such that I can make a CD where I put it in the drive, and I can flash the HD?
[12:29] <oskude> i just started gnomabaker with "cd audio copy" with source and target with the same source, i hope it makes some caches (its copying something..l.)
[12:29] <erUSUL> vb_coder, once you have grub in the mbr the bootable part does not matter
[12:29] <Epix> anyone?
[12:30] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, hopefully :) i did that and saved
[12:30] <thegladiator> shud i do the update now ?
[12:30] <danny> MarcN, right it installed it
[12:30] <gnomefreak> run sudo apt-get update  you will soon find out :)
[12:30] <vb_coder> erUSUL, will i need to change which ntfs partition is bootable? maybe the little lightening bolt is there for grub?
[12:30] <MarcN> danny: now try   $ mysql
[12:31] <polpak> Epix, dunno
[12:31] <polpak> Epix, if the HD light isn't on it might be ok
[12:31] <ara> what is a .tar.hz file, ? how do i make i run???
[12:31] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, that actually includes many more repos aint it ?
[12:31] <danny> MarcN, it says command not found
[12:31] <ara> gz
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ara, its a source file and you compile it not run it
[12:31] <nalioth> ara: a tar and a gzip file are archive files
[12:31] <MarcN> danny: Try /usr/bin/mysql
[12:31] <macd> ara: untar it,
[12:31] <Travis> how can I make my own ubuntu distro? I want to basically take ubuntu install some software etc.
[12:31] <erUSUL> vb_coder, i do not think so. grub installs in the mbr of the disk not in the bootable partition (it needs some files in /boo/grub/ also)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you had all the source repos not working
[12:31] <vb_coder> erUSUL okay i will take your advice i just want to be sure before i try this again
[12:32] <kemik> gnomefreak:  no, they're not sourcefiles.. coudl be anything inside a tar.gz archive
[12:32] <polpak> ara, or open it in the archive viewer
[12:32] <gnomefreak> kemik, good point
[12:32] <macd> ara: from terminal  tar zxvf yourfile.tar.gz or but using Ark.
[12:32] <danny> MarcN, says no such file or directory
[12:32] <macd> s/but/buy
[12:32] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, problem at my end ? or was it faulty servers that i had assigned ?
[12:32] <nalioth> Travis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[12:32] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, what happened?
[12:32] <Travis> thanks
[12:32] <navarone> vb_coder, you can also install grub on floppy...when asked to install in mbr click no and it gives option for floopy
[12:32] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, is it fixed?
[12:33] <fraggsta> I still don't know why the Ubuntu installer offered to make me a boot floppy..this ibook has no floppy drive :S
[12:33] <MarcN> danny: are you sure you installed mysql-client?   dpkg --list|grep mysql-client  should show ii in the first two columns
[12:33] <thegladiator> i cant say if it is fixed or not now because , as i asaid before , the synaptic doesnt respond after reboot
[12:33] <navarone> fraggsta, just being polite probably...lol
[12:33] <thegladiator> after apt update it works
[12:33] <danny> MarcN, no thts wrong it says ERROR 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server though socket.......
[12:33] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you run sudo apt-get update?
[12:33] <erUSUL> vb_coder, disclaimer: playing with disks is always a bit risky i can not make any waranties...
[12:33] <Miles> MarcN: christ.  the htdocs folder in apache is locked, and I can't freaking write to it.  what is the move command in ubuntu under the command line so I can sudo it
[12:34] <thegladiator> gn0me, yeah did it
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, any errors?
[12:34] <Miles> frasshafrackin...
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, no errors
[12:34] <MarcN> danny: could be that mysqld wasn't started.   sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[12:34] <danny> MarcN, socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, it was looking for a cdrom the way you had them set
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, oh i see
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, now it will be going to the servers and getting the packages
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, got it now :) thank toy for ur help
[12:35] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, thats why im here :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ok now lets try mine brb
[12:35] <thegladiator> yes! :) go ahead
[12:35] <Jochen> Thank you people
[12:35] <MarcN> Miles:     sudo gedit /var/www/apache2-default/test.php   or maybe it is just /var/www/   the move command as root is    sudo mv file.php /var/www/
[12:35] <oskude> oh mann, gnomebaker "copy audio cd" doesnt seem to work with with one drive...
[12:35] <demens> one phat "yo" @ everyone
 It was a package specially for ubuntu maintained from opera
[12:35] <Ganjhi> I've been able to navigate to the desktop in Root Terminal, which is where I saved the Enemy Territory install file, but I've been trying to figure out how to run the file in Root Terminal for about 30 minutes :|
[12:36] <vb_coder> erUSUL, i forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the xp install has just been installed and no files or programs were added to it
[12:36] <polpak> Ganjhi, ./filename
[12:36] <danny> MarcN, i put that and then put /usr/bin/mysql again and came up wiv same error
[12:36] <navarone> oskude> you should be able to...it should ripp an image first and then prompt you to replace cd in drive with blank cd-r...<?>
[12:36] <demens> anybody knows about fluxboxchannel in german
[12:36] <demens> ?
[12:36] <Jochen> Opera breezy badger browser package available to download as debian format
[12:36] <polpak> Ganjhi, if it says permission denied you may need to chmod +x the file first
[12:36] <Jochen> and very fast the browser
[12:36] <MarcN> danny: is mysqld running?  Try    ps auwx|grep mysql
[12:36] <Jochen> unbelievable
[12:36] <Jochen> Well thank you guys.
[12:36] <Jochen> bye!
[12:36] <Miles> php 4.4.0
[12:36] <Epix_> god damn. parted crashed my system during a resize
[12:36] <nalioth> demens: velicht #ubuntu-de ?
[12:37] <Ganjhi> That's what I though, I tried both of those, but for some reason it says the file does not exist
[12:37] <polpak> Ganjhi, then you're not in the correct directory
[12:37] <Miles> try www.vtsugar.com/supernerf.php
[12:37] <polpak> Ganjhi, ls should list the file
[12:37] <oskude> hmm,k3b works the tracks way more faster than gnomebaker...
[12:37] <fmus> is there any way to auto mount a usb thumb drive on a headless breezy machine?
[12:37] <navarone> oskude then use whatever works best
[12:37] <danny> MarcN, nothing came up not even command not found
[12:38] <polpak> fmus, I think breezy will auto mount it
[12:38] <oskude> navarone: yeah, but i wanted to use gnome stuff :(
[12:38] <macd> danny: ps az | grep postmaster
[12:38] <macd> az = ax
[12:38] <fmus> polpak: it does, but only if you're logged in to gnome.
[12:38] <polpak> fmus, just plug it in and cd /media
[12:39] <navarone> oskude> then the extra time working the tracks can be spent admiring your gnome desktop...<s>
[12:39] <polpak> fmus, I think the auto mount daemon is independant of the X server
[12:39] <MarcN> danny: then it doesn't seem that mysql server is running.  check to see if there is an err file in /var/log/mysql/*
[12:39] <Ganjhi> Great, it's working!
[12:39] <oskude> navarone: lol :)
[12:39] <fmus> polpak: oh. well, if that's the case, it isn't working. when I log in to gnome (via xnest), it works, though.
[12:39] <fraggsta> my mouse cursor is black..how do I make it white?  The twist is...I'm using XFCE!
[12:39] <vb_coder> i forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the windows install had just been installed without any other programs installed. ubuntus documentation does not say to defrag before resizing the windows partition. will this corrupt windows?
[12:40] <macd> haha@ fraggsta
[12:40] <macd> it might dissappear!
[12:40] <navarone> vb-I would defrag first
[12:40] <erUSUL> vb_coder, no i do not think so
[12:40] <polpak> fmus, I could be wrong
[12:40] <polpak> fmus, lemme see if I can find anything
[12:40] <MarcN> danny: did you start mysql as root?    sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[12:40] <navarone> vb_coder,  but mileage varies
[12:40] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:40] <bobesponja> do you know how I can get my usb mouse to work again? I unplugged it and replugged it and now it's blocked
[12:40] <danny> MarcN, it says /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.001: permission denied
[12:40] <Epix_> Parted fucked my computer over. can it be fixed? Error: mount: mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: Input/Ouytput error. a few of those for digfferent places then: Target FS doesnt hve /sbin/init!
[12:40] <fraggsta> macd, trying GNOME was no joke on this machine, since it only has 64 MB of RAM :)
[12:40] <purpleheart_USMC> vb_coder: it worked okay for me
[12:40] <danny> MarcN, yea i was already logged into root su -
[12:41] <MarcN> danny: yes, you need to be root.   sudo -s then cd /var/log/mysql/   then ls *.err
[12:41] <polpak> Epix, do you have a backup?
[12:41] <macd> fraggsta: yeah, thats not quite enough, I like fluxbox ::)
[12:41] <macd> or blackbox
[12:41] <vb_coder> purpleheart_USMC, are you saying that ubuntu installed with xp without defragging or corrupting windows?
[12:41] <nalioth> danny: use sudo
[12:41] <purpleheart_USMC> vb_coder: yes
[12:41] <oskude> oh man, am so sad, k3b rules over gnomebaker when copying and audiocd witn only one cd writer :(
[12:41] <fraggsta> macd, maybe, but fluxbox relies a lot on right-clicking, which is going to get annoying on an ibook where right-click = F12..
[12:41] <MarcN> danny: you can also check /var/log/daemon.log for any mention of why mysql didn't startup
[12:42] <maskd> oskude: Sound Juicer is a very nice program
[12:42] <Epix_> SAVE ME!
[12:42] <MarcN> danny: sudo grep mysql /var/log/daemon.log
[12:42] <erUSUL> Epix, maybe after using parted the numbering of your partitions changed and you need to update menu.lst and fstab
[12:42] <macd> you can change fluxboxs default behavior
[12:42] <pashaw> Epix,  you resized   or     added/deleted a partition
[12:42] <oskude> it seems gnome looses in audio cd copy with one cd writer, doh... :(
[12:43] <lampshade> I have vncserver installed already, but when I vnc over to the machine, there is nothing there(fluxbox doesn't appear to be started)  what do I need to do?  I'm not exactly sure
[12:43] <danny> MarcN, quite a bit came from that
[12:44] <danny> MarcN, wot am i ment to be lookin for in that
[12:44] <polpak> fmus, check this out. It might help: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[12:44] <MarcN> danny: should give you a clue.  What is the last mysql line talking about?  look for anything like an error.
[12:44] <melodie> Epix_, I propose a direct chat to you, to try helping
[12:44] <vb_coder> so many people are downloading jdk 1.5 (java development kit), the download is unavailable
[12:45] <fraggsta> maybe they found out about JDoom?
[12:45] <vb_coder> is gij used the same way to launch java programs from the command line?
[12:45] <polpak> fmus, or this http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <fraggsta> or that Java port of Quake 2, that thing was amazing
[12:46] <danny> MarcN, the last line says Dec 29 23:29:07 localhost mysqld_safe[22688]  ended
[12:46] <danny> MarcN, it dont says erro such and such anywhere
[12:46] <MarcN> danny: and a little before that?
[12:46] <oskude> oh man, im so dissappointed abiut gnomebaker :(
[12:47] <HymnToLife> oskude > get k3b :)
[12:47] <oskude> HymnToLife: yeah, but i love gnome :)
[12:48] <HymnToLife> oskude > you can run KDE apps in gnome
[12:48] <oskude> but ist seem copying from audio cd to audio cd with one cd burner is not what gnoem wants...
[12:48] <HymnToLife> it wil just take a little more time to download all the KDE libs, but it's worth it
[12:48] <oskude> HymnToLife: of course, but is till prefer gnome apps...
[12:49] <Miles> MarcN: Thanks for the help, i've got other items to attend to, perhaps see you back here soon.
[12:49] <maskd> oskude: you can rip the songs with Sound Juicer then burn the audio cd with Serpetine
[12:49] <BxL> if gnome doesn't want it, it's not worth it.
[12:49] <Miles> Danke!
[12:49] <Malachi> Does anyone know if there is a virtual printer that will allow you to print to a PDF?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> oskude > I prefer the ones who work best ;)
[12:49] <danny> MarcN, Dec 29 23:29:07 locvalhost mysqld[14221] : 051229 23:29:07 /usr/sbin/mysqld: shutdown complete
[12:50] <oskude> maskd: well, i wanted a "one-click" solution in gnome (like k3b)...
[12:50] <oskude> a = an
[12:50] <spoo> hi all. can anyone help. newbie to unbuntu here and i'm having some difficulty running dvd's anyone have any ideas please?
[12:50] <MarcN> danny: and before that?  It is saying it shutdown.  you want to figure out why it is shutting down when  you tell it to start the daemon.
[12:50] <maskd> oskude: it's still all gnome apps ;)
[12:51] <danny> MarcN, spz bout this but im new to the whole linux
[12:51] <oskude> maskd: hmm, and why its not implemented in gnomebaker ?
[12:51] <maskd> oskude: no idea mate
[12:51] <maskd> oskude: i never use audio cd's myself sorry, one you get an mp3 player you dont look back
[12:51] <gnomefreak> this cant be a good sign :(
[12:51] <oskude> maskd: you mean sound juicer and serpentine are gnome apps ?
[12:52] <|GaiJin|> Is there a im client that lets you chat with msn, with webcam??
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: yep
[12:52] <MarcN> danny: from one window do;       sudo tail -f /var/log/daemon.log   and from another  do;       sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start     you should see what is happending in the tail window.
[12:52] <oskude> maskd: i allso never used ausio cds, my GF just wanted to fast copy an audio cd..
[12:52] <navarone> oskude do you have two burners?
[12:52] <oskude> navarone: nope
[12:52] <pashaw> Malachi,   google  print pdf linux   there are lots of guides
[12:52] <gnomefreak> my applications menu is crashing grrrrrrrrrrr
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: sound juicer rips to ogg, serpentine burns the ogg's
[12:52] <oskude> maskd: lol
[12:52] <Malachi> pashaw: You mean print a website to a pdf?
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: you wouldnt happen to also have an xp machine with nero?
[12:53] <maskd> i always found that burning works better on windows
[12:53] <oskude> how about gnomebaker just making a cache file and burning with the same drive,, nope...
[12:53] <oskude> maskd: i dont have any windoze anyomre
[12:53] <navarone> oskude...gnomebaker has one click to copy audio cd...is the problem simply the speed?
[12:53] <pashaw> Malachi,   your print job  becomes a pdf
[12:53] <Malachi> Okay.
[12:53] <Malachi> pashaw: So google print pdf linux. I'll try...thanks
[12:53] <oskude> navarone: the problem with gnomebaker is that idont have to cdrom drives
[12:54] <Ng> you could print to a postscript file and install ps2pdf
[12:54] <xiaogil> how to cat the syslog ?
[12:54] <lampshade> how do I create default xsessions so that when I vnc into a machine it has fluxbox loaded?
[12:54] <navarone> oskude...doesn't gnome first rip an image of tracks and thenh prompt for blank cd-r?
[12:54] <Ng> xiaogil: "tail -100 /var/log/syslog" will show you the last 100 lines
[12:54] <spoozy> Has anyone had problems running DVD's?
[12:55] <oskude> navarone: gnomebaker did read my audio cd, but spit errors when trying to burn on the same cd that i read, lol (didnt ask for an empty cd in the same drive)
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> spoozy,  you mean playing comercial dvd's ?
[12:55] <navarone> hmm
[12:55] <spoozy> yes, don't have sound or playback :(
[12:56] <vb_coder> why did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)
[12:56] <danny> MarcN, in 1 terminal i put the satrt bit and it jsut went bk to danny@blah:~$
[12:56] <MarcN> danny: put the mysql related stuff in pastebin
[12:56] <Evil_Whisper> whats the key sequence for xkill?
[12:56] <oskude> i love gnome, but when it comes to multimedia, it somehow sucks like bigtime...
[12:56] <vb_coder> why did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)
[12:56] <danny> MarcN, how do i get oto paste bin i forgot
[12:57] <maskd> oskude: i can play anything i want multimedia wise ;)
[12:57] <MarcN> danny: right.  the /etc/init.d/mysql start goes in the background.     You should see stuff in the tail window.  pastebin I forget too
[12:57] <vb_coder> Im going to edit the boot.ini file to have a dual boot with linux
[12:57] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,   you mean  ctrl+alt+ backspace  ?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> spoozy,  you proberly got to install a few 'extra' things to get them to work.. check the wiki under the 'restricted formats' section I think is the details.
[12:57] <oskude> maskd: yeah, i can play too, but can you make ?!
[12:57] <danny> !pastebin
[12:57] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:57] <Evil_Whisper> pashaw I mean the one that brings out the skull and crossbones allowing you to kill a single application
[12:58] <spoozy> Thanks Doc ;)
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  i just use the 'run' dialog and type 'xkill'
[12:58] <Evil_Whisper> Dr_Willis is there a way to set up a hotkey for that in gnome?
[12:59] <oskude> now i dont wonder why Linus said "use KDE" :)
[12:59] <danny> MarcN, there is called dannymysql
[01:00] <markus-_-> can i just click a run file to make it install?
[01:01] <maskd> Evil_Whisper: you can create a little launcher for xkill
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  proberly is...
[01:01] <MarcN> danny: that is a shutdown, now do a startup
[01:01] <purpleheart_USMC> what are pgp keysigns?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  but its the kind of thing i use perhaps once a month. :P
[01:01] <oskude> pgp = pretty good privacy
[01:01] <lampshade> Anyone know how to create a .xsession file for fluxbox?  I have fluxbox installed, but when I vnc over I get nothing but a blank screen and an error about not having my xsession file.
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  run it from the shell.
[01:01] <ahmed> hi all
[01:01] <ahmed> what
[01:02] <navarone> Evil_Whisper, pressing alt-f2 will bring up dialog where you can type command for progs as well
[01:02] <ahmed> any one there
[01:02] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[01:02] <markus-_-> how do i do that Dr_Willis ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> lampshade,  edit the file with 1 line 'exec fluxbox'
[01:02] <markus-_-> cd to the directory
[01:02] <markus-_-> then what
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  type ./whatevertorun   :P
[01:02] <danny> MarcN, how do i do tht sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  makes sence eh?
[01:02] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,    just make a custom hotkey with xkill as command      some people use ctlr+alt+x
[01:02] <madraykin> What in ubuntu livecd I can't do that I can do in the installation CD?
[01:02] <MarcN> danny: from the command line:             sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:03] <maskd> lol im stupid, i was trying alt + f2, alt + f1, alt + f3, alt + f4...
[01:03] <maskd> woops
[01:03] <markus-_-> so when you say shell is that the same as terminal?
[01:03] <Evil_Whisper> pashaw where do I go to do that?
[01:03] <nalioth> markus-_-: yes
[01:03] <linzgaueddie> hi
[01:03] <odat> who know how to create a disk image from a copy protected cd???
[01:03] <jvai_> u cant raise the resolution on the live cd, for 1
[01:03] <markus-_-> and when it prompts me where to install it..... what directory should i use if i want all users to play the game
[01:04] <nalioth> odat: you'll need to ask somewhere else
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  what game?
[01:04] <madraykin> jvai_: thats so true, lol
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  the terminal window runs a shell.
[01:04] <markus-_-> wolfenstein enemy territory
[01:04] <BxL> you can't upgrade the kernel on the liveCD, I tryed it, everything die.
[01:04] <danny> MarcN, done tht now do i do sudo tail -f /var.............
[01:04] <madraykin> javi: and I can't install stuff in the livecd huh
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[01:04] <madraykin> BxL: LOL
[01:04] <MarcN> danny: you should have left the tail -f running.
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  it asks you if you want to install it for all users or just the 1.
[01:04] <odat> nalioth, no hints?
[01:05] <markus-_-> no it asks what directory
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  you may need to do a 'sudo ./whteveritiscalled.run
[01:05] <jvai_> i mailed some1 a copy of hoary live, but i dont think she can use it to install
[01:05] <nalioth> odat: we don't discuss breaking copy protection in here
[01:05] <odat> nalioth, k
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  i just let it install to the defaults for my single user.. perhaps put it in /opt/games  if you want.
[01:05] <ompaul> jvai_, send them to shipit and they can get breezy :-)
[01:05] <markus-_-> can i put it in /usr ?
[01:05] <danny> MarcN, yep and nothing changed in the terminal, with tail.... put in it
[01:06] <markus-_-> or would that be bad?
[01:06] <nalioth> markus-_-: dont mess with your filesystm outside of /usr/local or /opt/
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  You COULD.. you proberly DONT want to .. :P
[01:06] <jvai_> but they only have dial up.. that kill'd them ever using unbuntu
[01:06] <MarcN> danny: keep tail -f running and then do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start (again)
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  since you got no reason to put it in /usr/ i say put it in /opt/whatever
[01:06] <markus-_-> k
[01:07] <jvai_> the beauty of broadband
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Of course now a days finding a decent RTCW:ET server is the problem :P
[01:07] <franky123> i'm having a problem getting wine to recognize /media/cdrom0 is my cdrom drive even though i changed the wine config file . help?
[01:08] <danny> MarcN, thts wot i did but nothing happened, idid the same again and still nothing happened
[01:08] <madraykin> ok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?
[01:08] <ilba7r> how can i list the program instances that i created in a terminal using the & ie running in the terminal background?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> gnome menu is controled by metacity?
[01:08] <oskude> resize = evil
[01:08] <nandro> can anyone tell me how to have a bit torrent client save a flie to a newtwork drive?  All I see are options for the local drive even though a w2k server folder is mapped
[01:08] <MarcN> danny: nothing in daemon.log?    Try     sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/mysql start     it will dump to the terminal all the shell script steps it takes.
[01:08] <fraggsta> ilba7r, "jobs"
[01:09] <ilba7r> fraggsta thanx will try it
[01:09] <jvai_> she lives in pine bluff, ala. there may not be any wifi sigs to steal there, & she's doin dial up.. i feel pity for her, she cant use ubuntu
[01:09] <navarone> oskude...you're drunk though remmebr...? <s>
[01:09] <Viper550> Hello! I'm also in Ubuntu-Meeting
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php       has a section on job controll
[01:09] <ilba7r> thanx fraggsta but how to display also the process id
[01:09] <MarcN> Viper550: what is the purpose of ubuntu-meeting?
[01:09] <ilba7r> thanx Dr_willis will read the link
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> it details the fundamental com,mands you are asking about :P
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  'ps' shows the  pid's :P
[01:10] <Viper550> Is this an Ubuntu Development channel? Also, an art team meeting is in there right now
[01:10] <oskude> navarone: yeah, im way over to the dark side, so pleas ignore my comments :)
[01:10] <madraykin> ok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?
[01:10] <franky123> dont trust resizing utilities
[01:10] <ilba7r> thanx again Dr_willis no off to reading the link :)
[01:10] <SlipAway172> When i try to browse my network from a windows machine and i try to look at my ubuntu machine it will always prompt me for a name and password. i tryed my account and the root. why does it ask me for this?
[01:10] <navarone> oskude...I am your father...<asthmatic breathing>
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Viper550:  i cant find dapper art :(
[01:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:11] <franky123> madraykin: i would recommend backing up your files and reinstalling windows .. resizing isn't reliable and you'll want to back up your files before that anyways
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  you Must make a 'samba' password for the users who hiome dirs you want to share.
[01:11] <SlipAway172> Oooh
[01:11] <madraykin> Hmm
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  sudo  smbpasswd -a username
[01:11] <oskude> navarone: nice try :)
[01:11] <madraykin> I'll try out LiveCD for now
[01:11] <danny> MarcN, K it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:11] <Viper550> #ubuntu-meeting
[01:11] <jvai_> hey, if sum1's usin WIN me, can they load the live cd (hoary) into the optic drive, then open the apps within to use them?
[01:11] <madraykin> until I get da groove
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  you may have to restart samba services also.. i forget...
[01:12] <fraggsta> I've no idea why, but fluxbox just took longer than XFCE to start..
[01:12] <oskude> navarone: i know how to use the "bright side" :)
[01:12] <SlipAway172> ok i will write that down and use that on my other machine. im on windows now for a laptop becuase ubuntu will not work on it :(
[01:12] <Kindred> madraykin,  I resized my windows partition fine with the install, you can certainly do it... backup of course though.
[01:12] <franky123> fluxbox is actually not too bad of a window manager :)
[01:12] <navarone> franky123, how does reinstalling windows help resize his drive?
[01:12] <SlipAway172> Dr_Willis thankyou
[01:12] <Kyral> Fluxbox > You
[01:12] <nandro> anyone?  is there a way to have linux see a mounted smb folder as a regular folder?
[01:13] <fraggsta> question is, why did it take ages to start - it seemed to do nothing for about 15 seconds before loading
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> nandro,  in what way is it 'different' ?
[01:13] <franky123> navarone: reinstall and then repartition?
[01:13] <heng> which package name refer to the j2sdk1.4 in apt-get way ? apt-get install j2sdk seems didnt work, hehe
[01:13] <nandro> when I try to download a torrent it will give me the option to save to any local folder
[01:13] <nandro> even though the server shares are mounted and showing
[01:14] <franky123> heng: are you trying to install the sun java sdk for like eclipse ?
[01:14] <manny> anyone know what the default su password is
[01:14] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:14] <nandro> basicly I have a linux box with a 2.5G HD
[01:14] <SlipAway172> is none for su
[01:14] <SlipAway172> try YOUR password
[01:14] <nandro> and need to save to the network
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> manny,  you just asked Faq #1 :P
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> manny,  use 'sudo' not 'su'
[01:15] <heng> franky123: thanks for the reply, nope, just want to do it in the apt-get way as those in rpm , hehe
[01:15] <ompaul> !tell manny about sudo
[01:15] <SlipAway172> sudo is temporary , su is to login as root
[01:15] <WorstPhobia> pashaw: When using ps2pdf, the PDF doesn't view correctly in evince.
[01:15] <ompaul> manny, please look at the message from the bot ubotu
[01:15] <navarone> franky123, if he going to backup his files he may as well try resizing first and then reinstall windows if needed...defragging windows before resize would be good idea though
[01:15] <SlipAway172> (my understanding)
[01:15] <WorstPhobia> pashaw: Any idea why?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  not always :P
[01:15] <manny> ok
[01:15] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:15] <ompaul> SlipAway172, stop - read the same documention - excuse me for wearing jackboots and trampling on your parade
[01:16] <danny> MarcN, u still about?
[01:16] <heng> franky123: any idea ? please help, hehe
[01:16] <SlipAway172> lol
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell SlipAway172 about sudo
[01:16] <ilba7r> heng follow ubotu link
[01:16] <SlipAway172> oh no
[01:16] <ilba7r> !java
[01:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:16] <heng> thanks, trying..
[01:16] <spoozy> Thanks Dr_Willis. Had all the right files just needed to change the setting on hdparm. Cheers.
[01:17] <danny> MarcN, u still therecan anyone lse confirm they can see this
[01:17] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:18] <danny> anyone else see this
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> danny,  see what?
[01:19] <danny> thts ok
[01:19] <danny> someone was helpin me out
[01:19] <jvai_> ##
[01:19] <danny> i didnt no if they were gettin the messages on here
[01:20] <heng> thanks, all, I tried apt-get install j2re1.4  and go this error : Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. I have already enabled all the repositories in resouces.list file, anything else I can do ?
[01:20] <xenex> !uset autoinvite 1
[01:20] <ubotu> xenex: Not a clue
[01:21] <ilba7r> heng which java are you trying to install
[01:21] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:21] <ilba7r> sun or blackdown
[01:21] <ilba7r> !javadeb
[01:21] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[01:21] <heng> ilbr7r: sun's latested 1.4 series
[01:22] <ilba7r> heng look ar ubotu link
[01:22] <heng> ubotu: thanks, multiverse has been enabled in sources.list.
[01:22] <ubotu> heng: bitte
[01:22] <wza> anyone know how to access another subnet?
[01:23] <heng> ilba7r: thanks, I will try that link from ubotu
[01:23] <oskude> !java evil
[01:23] <ubotu> oskude: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:24] <heng> oops, it has j2sdk 1.5 on that link but I need j2sdk 1.4.10, :-)
[01:24] <Seveas> heng, mirror.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:24] <heng> thanks, add mirror.ubuntulinux.nl into sources.list ?
[01:25] <Seveas> surf to the page, click java, click the version you want
[01:25] <heng> thanks,doing so
[01:25] <oskude> hmm, where so people _REALLY_ need java ?
[01:25] <oskude> si = do
[01:26] <oskude> doh, so = do
[01:26] <Seveas> do re mi fa so la ti :p
[01:26] <noruas> HiddenFly, everybody..............;
[01:26] <noruas> oups
[01:26] <noruas> Hello
[01:26] <Seveas> noruas, don't over-use <tab> :)
[01:27] <noruas> lol
[01:27] <danny> MarcN, u still around
[01:28] <silverpower> I'm currently running the ppc install CD, and the install process keeps stopping at 'Partition Disks
[01:28] <silverpower> What can I do?
[01:28] <noruas> I'm a noob in Ubuntu and in IRC :-p
[01:30] <nalioth> silverpower: verify your installation media
[01:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell silverpower about verify
[01:30] <danny> !help
[01:30] <Thel> Hi all, I've got an aggravating sound problem: no sound ever plays on my Ubuntu machine. Closer inspection reveals a complete lack of /dev/dsp ... how can I rectify that issue?
[01:30] <interfear> mine keeps saying error reading data from cdrom
[01:30] <interfear> and halts mid install
[01:30] <Thel> I have a SoundBlaster in the machine, and I have installed alsa
[01:30] <interfear> and ive burned 2 cds already
[01:30] <mwe> !sound
[01:30] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:31] <sambagirl> chao
[01:31] <sambagirl> i have an external protocal request dialog box and i have cancelled it 100 times but it still is there, how do i remove it?
[01:31] <mwe> Thel: try the links ubotu suggested
[01:31] <danny> seveas, im pretty much new to linux have u got any links to things i can learn things from?
[01:31] <Thel> Checking these out right now, thanks
[01:32] <Seveas> danny, apt-get install rutebook
[01:32] <PeteyPablo> sup skon
[01:32] <skon> Hello
[01:32] <navarone> Seveas rutel or rule?
[01:32] <Seveas> rutebook - Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book
[01:33] <danny> Thanks
[01:33] <silverpower> nalioth: it's checking, it'll take a while, my Pismo isn't the fastest thing out there. :D
[01:33] <skon> On a live CD now...trying to resize partitions. I want to shrink my ntfs and grow my ext2. I can shrink the ntfs (which is the first partition) but how do I grow my ext2 into the free space?
[01:33] <navarone> is rute just "leet" for root?
[01:33] <nalioth> silverpower: check both the iso image and the burnt cd
[01:34] <xiaogil> even after purging mysql, it still doesn't after reinstalling, what can i do then to make it work ?
[01:34] <silverpower> nalioth: yep, the CD is corrupt. :(
[01:34] <nalioth> silverpower: burn the next one as slowly as your machine will burn
[01:34] <interfear> is there a way to do an internet install?
[01:34] <danny> Seveas, its done now how do i get to it
[01:35] <Seveas> danny, go to /usr/share/doc/rutebook
[01:36] <skon> Anyone know how to grow ext3 from free space before it??
[01:37] <silverpower> nalioth: It's burning at 8x now, and I don't see any buffer underruns. (Should've known better than to run the burner at max speed on this ancient box of mine. :facepalm:)
[01:37] <ScislaC> does fast user switching (specifically ctrl+alt+f8) work for anyone using Breezy?
[01:38] <ScislaC> it worked fine in Hoary, now it basically goes to terminal output from bootup, instead of switching back to the appropriate user
[01:38] <nalioth> silverpower: over the past year+ i've seen that the slower the burn, the better chance of quality you have
[01:38] <ompaul> ScislaC, 8 should be the output of dmesg iirc
[01:38] <paal> how do I change my keyboardlayout in terminal?
[01:38] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, especially for video, 4x is fastest you should go
[01:39] <mwe> ctrl+alt+f8 gives me a black screen
[01:39] <ScislaC> ompaul: ahhh, that's what it is then... it worked in hoary though which is kinda weird
[01:39] <nalioth> silverpower: see PeteyPablo's statement
[01:39] <kurros> poot poot
[01:39] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, for music i don't think it really matters? or atleast i have never noticed a difference
[01:40] <nalioth> PeteyPablo: i'm not in this channel to discuss burning music or video, just the *buntu iso images
[01:40] <navarone> silverpower, I try not to burn data at anything over 8x...I have made my share of coasters
[01:40] <G2C> Hello All
[01:40] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, when i burned mine it was at 40x and it worked fine to install on two pc's
[01:40] <skon> Can someone help me expand an ext3 partition to fill free space _before_ it?
[01:40] <danny> Seveas, thanks got to it
[01:41] <silverpower> yeah, especially since I'm forking out $1.50 or so per coaster. (don't ask.)
[01:41] <G2C> Anyone help me out here with ubuntu?
[01:41] <steveO_Office> whats up?
[01:41] <navarone> Seveas I dl'ed rutebook pdf...it should keep me awake at night...lol
[01:41] <steveO_Office> G2C, whats up?
[01:41] <nalioth> PeteyPablo: different cd burners work differently, it always works at 2x
[01:42] <G2C> steveO_Office , well , how easy is it to install?
[01:42] <steveO_Office> in grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?
[01:42] <steveO_Office> G2C, what are you installing it on?
[01:43] <steveO_Office> G2C, for the most part its a walk in the park
[01:43] <Snake__> Hey guys, quick security question, is there anyway to view traffic going through my network without modifying my routers software??
[01:43] <skon> Snake__: etherape, ethereal
[01:43] <Hotwheelz> Ive got a real quick question about the Ubuntu live CD that came in the mail today....it wont load the live cd, it goes straight into the install, which I dont want.
[01:43] <nalioth> Snake__: your box will need to be in line with the network packets
[01:43] <paal> can anyone help me out?
[01:43] <Snake__> skon: neither will show me all the network traffic, just between mine
[01:43] <Hotwheelz> It says hit enter to load live cd, which I do. Am I missing something?
[01:44] <G2C> steveO_Office - its a AMD Athlon 1.53 ghz 256 RAM
[01:44] <skon> Hotwheelz: if you put in the live cd, it needs to setup first, follow the instructions
[01:44] <steveO_Office> video card?
[01:44] <Snake__> nalioth: So my box needs to be the router?
[01:44] <vb_coder> ive reinstalled xp and linux about 20 times now trying to get a dual boot to work and i still get an error when booting xp saying hal.dll error it is corrupted or missing
[01:44] <G2C> steveO_Office yes
[01:44] <nalioth> Snake__: we've discussed this before, iirc
[01:44] <skon> Snake__: etherape shows you the traffice from other computers on the network too
[01:44] <PeteyPablo> vb_coder, tried to repair the xp install?
[01:44] <Snake__> nalioth: Yes I know, but there has to be a way
[01:44] <steveO_Office> G2C, what video card?
[01:45] <nalioth> Snake__: buy another NIC and make your box the router
[01:45] <G2C> fuck, how do i find out - its a seperate comp bside me
[01:45] <Snake__> nalioth: I didnt want to deal with all that lol
[01:45] <nalioth> G2C: please respect us with your language choices
[01:45] <steveO_Office> g2c what os are you running at this time?
[01:46] <G2C> Well this is Xp the one infront is OS'less
[01:46] <silverpower> Snake__: If you have a Linksys router, some 3rd-party firmwares should have the functionality you need.
[01:46] <skon> Snake__: etherape does the job for me, dunno what more you need out of it
[01:46] <Snake__> ill try etherape
[01:46] <G2C> steveO_Office, are the system specs ok ?
[01:46] <scenestar> hello
[01:46] <heng> Seveas: thanks, it did work fine ( java apt-get ) though when doing apt-get update I got pgp auth failure error, hehe
[01:46] <scenestar> how can i get the righclick launch terminal thing back
[01:47] <scenestar> like in 5.04
[01:47] <steveO_Office> ok then just go for it it should be fine you can goole ubuntu starter guide for more help after that
[01:47] <G2C> scenestar - go back to HTS
[01:47] <scenestar> i cant find it anyways on the forums
[01:47] <scenestar> wtf
[01:47] <nalioth> scenestar: nautilus-terminal-here   is in the repos
[01:47] <scenestar> thank you
[01:47] <scenestar> g2c hts are the suxx
[01:47] <nalioth> scenestar: mayby open-terminal-here (i can't remember)
[01:47] <scenestar> i kick banned all the total idiots
[01:47] <G2C> scenestar you are always on it
[01:47] <silverpower> Okay, CD burned sucessfully, I'm booting it now.
[01:48] <GNAM> on my utilities-multiverse there's only 'f-prot-installer'
[01:48] <GNAM> where's done RAR?
[01:48] <Shadyman> scenestar: But i'm still here?
[01:48] <Shadyman> lol jk
[01:48] <crimsun> GNAM: unrar-nonfree?
[01:48] <GNAM> no
[01:48] <GNAM> rar-nonfree
[01:48] <scenestar> wait
[01:48] <scenestar> you guys are htssers too right
[01:48] <crimsun> !info rar
[01:49] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[01:49] <nalioth> guerby: unrar-nonfree
[01:49] <nalioth> GNAM: unrar-nonfree
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> I cheat and use wine and winrar :P
[01:49] <GNAM> auauau
[01:49] <cafuego> ./me hasn't been near any hts for a decade and a half
[01:49] <GNAM> unrar-nonfree?
[01:49] <crimsun> GNAM: I just pointed you to rar, if that's what you're asking after
[01:50] <GNAM> uhm
[01:50] <skon> DrWillis: you know they make winrar for linux?
[01:50] <steveO_Office> ? in grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> skon,  never noticed it when i redownloaded winrar today.
[01:50] <GNAM> where can I find your suggested sources.list?
[01:50] <crimsun> read-only, suppress kernel ring buffer spew
[01:50] <Shadyman> !sources
[01:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GNAM about repos
[01:51] <GNAM> i've enabled multiverse
[01:51] <GNAM> and universe
[01:51] <Snake__> skon: no sutible interface was found
[01:51] <GNAM> but no rar
[01:51] <skon> DrWillis: http://www.rarlabs.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz
[01:51] <scenestar>  oi nalioth
[01:51] <vb_coder> PeteyPablo, yes i am going to try again
[01:51] <Snake__> thats what etherape tells me
[01:51] <scenestar> thanks a breeze
[01:51] <skon> Snake__: you have to run it as root
[01:51] <nalioth> GNAM: it's 'unrar-nonfree'
[01:51] <scenestar> now
[01:51] <Snake__> skon: oh ok
[01:51] <scenestar> last annoing question
[01:51] <scenestar> how can i get rid of that pussy package manager
[01:51] <silverpower> Is the installer going to complain if my ubuntu partition is at the end of the disk? (I'm on ppc, BTW, running a NewWorld G3.)
[01:51] <_jeff> hey guys
[01:51] <scenestar> and replace it with synaptic?
[01:51] <cafuego> scenestar: Mind your language.
[01:51] <Toma-> scenestar: what package manager is that?
[01:52] <dereks_> alsa is failing to setup on boot, which log would info be in
[01:52] <cafuego> Toma-: 'cat' I imagine.
[01:52] <crimsun> dereks_: none
[01:52] <Toma-> "apt-cache search pussy" returns nothing :)
[01:52] <Seveas> cafuego, we currently have a zero-tolerance policy as you see :)
[01:52] <dereks_> crimsun: how can i debug the problem?
[01:52] <_jeff> does anybody else find that networking with windows machines has become more difficult in breezy?
[01:52] <Snake__> skon: it still only shows me my traffic
[01:52] <crimsun> dereks_: give me more detailed debugging info
[01:52] <cafuego> Seveas: Yeah, not a bad idea for what appears to be an extremely long weekend ;-)
[01:52] <skon> Someone know how to get an ext3 partition to claim free space _before_ it ?
[01:52] <nalioth> zero-tolerance especially if we know you know better
[01:52] <dereks_> crimsun: all it said was failed, i want to know where to find more debugging info
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: you're talking to him.
[01:53] <psusi> skon, gparted?
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: sound chipset?
[01:53] <dereks_> oh, hehe
[01:53] <igotowned> dude
[01:53] <dereks_> its an audiology2
[01:53] <skon> Snake__: I run it when I bring my laptop to schoola nd I can see all the traffic that every computer in the school has
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> skon,  i dont see those haveing the winrar gui.
[01:53] <_jeff> can anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers?
[01:53] <Snake__> skon: Thats because you school uses a hub
[01:53] <Snake__> skon: not a router ;)
[01:53] <skon> Snake__: get a hub :-D
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: do you mean 'audigy2'?
[01:53] <Snake__> Argh
[01:54] <Snake__> lol
[01:54] <cafuego> Seveas: *!*@*.nl
[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: yeah
[01:54] <psusi> skon, what makes you thikn you can see all the traffic?
[01:54] <_jeff> can anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers??
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> I got an Autigy2zs
[01:54] <skon> psusi: how to do it in gparted? all I can do is shrink the partitions
[01:54] <crimsun> dereks_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:54] <Seveas> cafuego, s/nl/au/
[01:54] <Toma-> :O
[01:54] <Toma-> not au :*(
[01:54] <markus-_-> hey Dr_Willis
[01:54] <crimsun> *!*@*  for great justice!
[01:54] <psusi> skon, you should be able to change the size or position, not just shrink, I believe
[01:54] <Snake__> Any other ideas guys?
[01:54] <cafuego> Seveas: Feel free :-)
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> _jeff,  check out the 'samba' wiki
[01:54] <skon> psusi: umm because I've tested it? it says the computer name and the connection
[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102162 is the model
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> hello markus-_-
[01:54] <Snake__> Outside from making my box the router
[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: lemme try that
[01:54] <_jeff> dr_willis: ok thanks
[01:55] <markus-_-> i tried sudo ./nameofrunfile.run
[01:55] <silverpower> Okay, the partitioning is broken on ppc. How do I handle it manually? (I know how to use mac-fdisk and mke2fs, thanks, I just need to know what I need mounted and everything.)
[01:55] <dereks_> crimsun: 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  (rev.4, serial:0x20021102) at 0x2000, irq 193
[01:55] <markus-_-> and it told me command not found
[01:55] <markus-_-> i'm in the same directory
[01:55] <Seveas> markus-_-, chmod +x ./nameoffile
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  you did chmod +x whatever.run first?
[01:55] <crimsun> dereks_: looks fine to me. Now pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[01:55] <markus-_-> no
[01:55] <psusi> skon, what says this?
[01:55] <dereks_> crimsun: hold
[01:55] <GNAM> wow official repo rulez, rar found
[01:55] <skon> psusi: about which
[01:56] <markus-_-> ahhhh
[01:56] <crimsun> GNAM: ...I pasted that to you above.
[01:56] <markus-_-> thats better
[01:56] <GNAM> yeah
[01:56] <psusi> skon, you said "it says"  what is "it"?  what are you using to view this traffic?
[01:56] <markus-_-> merci beaucoup
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  logical eh? :)
[01:56] <skon> psusi: etherape and ethereal
[01:56] <dereks_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/483618
[01:56] <cafuego> Seveas: Mind you, by way of w2k-in-vmware-on-linux now.
[01:56] <markus-_-> what does the chmod command do?
[01:56] <Toma-> cafuego: having 1 redundnt windows box on a server LAN can act as a honeypot :D
[01:56] <psusi> skon, most likely you are only seeing broadcast packets... it is very unlikely that you are connected to a hub instead of a switch
[01:56] <jhenn> how can i record the sound on my computer to a .wav file?
[01:57] <Seveas> jhenn, audacity
[01:57] <cafuego> Toma-: That's what I use OpenBSD for. (More worthy challenge)
[01:57] <Toma-> hehe
[01:57] <jhenn> Seveas: not record from mic, record whats playing on gxine
[01:57] <Seveas> cafuego, that's comparing a leaky raft to a nuclear sub :)
[01:57] <cafuego> OpenBSD in vmware too, all easy to repalce from the snapshot :-)
[01:57] <Rim7510> anyone know where I'd look to to get 4 screens working?
[01:57] <Toma-> heh
[01:57] <skon> psusi: that was Snake__ who said about the hub....
[01:57] <markus-_-> by the way Dr_Willis .... it chose usr/local/games as the directory
[01:58] <crimsun> dereks_: I presume you're using regular speakers?
[01:58] <Seveas> Rim7510, xorg.conf :)
[01:58] <dereks_> yeah, the speakers work on my other comp
[01:58] <psusi> skon, yes... because you asked why you could see all the traffic... if you are on a switch isntead of a hub, you only get your traffic and broadcasts
[01:58] <crimsun> dereks_: so try turning up 'Analog Mix'
[01:59] <Snake__> skon: Dude this thing wont work with routers
[01:59] <Snake__> grrr
[01:59] <cafuego> crud, missing an svg
[01:59] <skon> psusi: right, I didn't know he was running a switch
[01:59] <Snake__> Is that any software that will!!
[01:59] <Seveas> Snake__, no
[01:59] <skon> Snake__: mine works with my router
[01:59] <gtrplr> I am trying to get ndiswrappers to work w/my bcom 64b driver (i also have the 32b drivers) but it says there is no hardware. Any help please ?
[01:59] <Seveas> unless it runs on the router
[01:59] <Snake__> Seveas: Man..that sucks
[02:00] <dereks_> crimsun: beautiful
[02:00] <dereks_> thanks
[02:00] <dereks_> i didn't know that option
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: works?
[02:00] <psusi> skon, you are claiming that you can see all the traffic on campus are't you?  I'm saying no, you can't... there is no way the entire campus is on one non switched hub... therefore, all you see are broadcasts
[02:00] <dereks_> yeah
[02:00] <gtrplr> sorry, it says invalid driver
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: excellent.
[02:00] <skon> psusi: it's a high school running an NT server
[02:00] <dereks_> crimsun: when it boots, how come it says alsa setup fails though
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: is this a dist-upgrade from Hoary?
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: (presuming you're running Breezy)
[02:01] <jhenn> can someone help me get my sound working?
[02:01] <dereks_> crimsun: oh :) i forgot, dapper from breezy
[02:01] <psusi> skon, ohh... still... in this day and age, about the only non switched hubs are things like 5 port home routers
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: oh, it's because the mixer element names shifted.
[02:01] <dereks_> but it didn't work on breezy either, just too lazy to fix it
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: no big deal.
[02:01] <dereks_> crimsun: ohh ok
[02:01] <silverpower> Where do I mount the partitions in the installer, since it's forcing me to do it manually? I just mount everything to /target and use swapon on my swap partition, correct?
[02:01] <skon> psusi: we run ancient technology...our sysadmin is so dumb that we don't have access to our cisco router...charter does
[02:01] <dereks_> i don't follow, but i will take your word
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: annoying, will be fixed
[02:01] <psusi> unless this is like a 20 computer lab using really old hardware?
[02:01] <dereks_> ok
[02:02] <dereks_> now if only banshee worked :)
[02:02] <Snake__> Well what would be a good third party firmware for my router? I believe nalioth said something about that
[02:02] <skon> psusi: yes, basically
[02:02] <psusi> ohh... ok ;)
[02:02] <Note> my school uses  xp but we have so much spy ware its not even funny
[02:02] <cafuego> Snake__: What router?
[02:02] <dereks_> crimsun: thanks for all your help, now i gotta go use it
[02:02] <dereks_> ttyl
[02:02] <nalioth> Snake__: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:03] <Snake__> cafuego: Linksys WRK54G
[02:03] <cafuego> Snake__: go to www.openwrt.org
[02:03] <niner> Can someone offer suggestions on getting the 5.10 LiveCD to boot on a Dell Dimension?   It keeps locking up when loading the hotplug subsystem.
[02:03] <Seveas> !seen mdz
[02:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'mdz', Seveas
[02:04] <Note> the library computers are full of the stuff we get popups when we arn't on line and the home page on IE (They dont even use ff) is messed up
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> niner,  what cpu?
[02:04] <niner> (additional info:   I've added a PCI video card to replace the onboard video)
[02:04] <Shadyman> niner: You should be able to set various boot-time kernel options
[02:04] <Snake__> cafuego: Will I get kicked offline when I do this?
[02:04] <blanky> hey guys, you install a tar.gz by untarring it, then doing make make, install, ./configure ? Is it the right order?
[02:04] <silverpower> niner: nohotplug, I think.
[02:04] <Seveas> blanky, no
[02:04] <skon> Someone please check the pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355 and tell me what I'm doing wrong with gparted please
[02:04] <Snake__> cafuego: and if I screw it up, can I revert back?
[02:04] <niner> Pentium IV 1.4 GHz, 512MB RAM.    Added a 128MB Geforce PCI card.
[02:05] <Seveas> !tell blanky about compiling
[02:05] <cafuego> Snake__: When applying the firmware? Yes. Make _CERTAIN_ you read all docs. There is a chance you'll turn the router into a brick.
[02:05] <aeon17x> !tell aeon17x about compiling
[02:05] <gerald-volt> is there a program that can tell me my cpu temperature in terminal?
[02:05] <nalioth> Snake__: you are offtopic
[02:05] <Seveas> gerald-volt, cat
[02:05] <Snake__> argh sorry nalioth
[02:05] <gerald-volt> how?
[02:05] <cafuego> Snake__: For all other inquiries, please refer to the site I gave you :-)
[02:05] <odat> hi everyone
[02:05] <Snake__> cafuego: okie dokie
[02:05] <Seveas> gerald-volt, cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/*
[02:06] <odat> i am getting this error not sure what to do
[02:06] <odat> C compiler cannot cr eate executables
[02:06] <niner> Snake__, go read that website.   read it twice.
[02:06] <Snake__> lol
[02:06] <Seveas> gerald-volt, browse through these dirs for more fun :)
[02:06] <odat> C compiler cannot create executables
[02:06] <Seveas> !tell odat about compiling
[02:06] <gerald-volt> cool
[02:06] <gerald-volt> thanks
[02:06] <psusi> Snake__, look, if you are trying to spy on your neighbor's cable modem traffic, give up... you can't... if you want to see all that you can, ditch the router and plug directly into the modem
[02:06] <gtrplr> Seveas, could you do the same for me
[02:06] <gerald-volt> hmm, i wonder if I have acpi enabled in my kernel
[02:06] <niner> silverpower, thanks, i didn't see a nohotplug option in the menus.
[02:06] <shsnoc> hey folks
[02:06] <gerald-volt> I don't have anything in that directory
[02:06] <Seveas> gtrplr, ?
[02:06] <PeteyPablo> !compiling
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:07] <Snake__> psusi: Wow............thats agood idea
[02:07] <silverpower> niner: np - most of my boxes hate hotplug.
[02:07] <interfear> i think my iso is corrupt.. ill try dling another one.. the install keeps having a problem with a poing
[02:07] <interfear> says cant read from cdrom
[02:07] <interfear> and ive burned 3 already
[02:07] <shsnoc> can anyone point me to a decent irc server to run to help coworkers collaborate?
[02:07] <Seveas> interfear, check the md5sum of both iso and burned cd
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> guts
[02:07] <skon> Someone please take a look here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355
[02:07] <psusi> Snake__, all you're going to see though is a bunch of ARP broadcasts and your own traffic
[02:07] <Seveas> !md5
[02:07] <ubotu> well, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> er
[02:07] <gtrplr> Seveas, was looking for compiling info
[02:07] <Snake__> o
[02:07] <shsnoc> I'm using ubuntu 5.10
[02:07] <Snake__> :(
[02:07] <gtrplr> and wireless
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> guys im havuing avery weird issue with the newest version of dapper
[02:07] <crimsun> shsnoc: you may want to consider jabber as an alternative
[02:07] <Snake__> Networks are to lockeddown now in days
[02:08] <Seveas> gtrplr, ubotu said it to the channel :)
[02:08] <Seveas> Snake__, you were warned twice about being offtopic
[02:08] <shsnoc> Why is that?
[02:08] <shadeofgrey> every time i click on the applications menu, it opens, but flashes suddenly and draws a square in the bottom lefthand cortner odf the screen and wont show the applications menu for more than  a few sedconds
[02:08] <crimsun> shsnoc: much less infrastructure to configure
[02:08] <shsnoc> I know so little about jabber to be honest.
[02:08] <shsnoc> hmmm
[02:08] <shsnoc> is there a jabber server I need then?
[02:09] <crimsun> shsnoc: you can create your own if you wish
[02:09] <crimsun> shsnoc: there's good documentation online
[02:09] <PeteyPablo> can anyone help me with a azureus display problem on ubuntu ?
[02:09] <odat> why do i keep getting this
[02:09] <odat> C compiler cannot create executables
[02:09] <gerald-volt> Seveas, i don't have anything in the thermal_zone directory
[02:09] <niner> Additional question:   has anyone run Xen on Ubuntu?
[02:09] <gtrplr> is there a readme for wireless ndiswrappers??
[02:09] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[02:09] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:09] <crimsun> odat: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[02:09] <odat> i have every compiler installed
[02:09] <shsnoc> So should I search for ubuntu+jabber server?
[02:09] <Seveas> odat, read what Ubotu sent you
[02:10] <crimsun> shsnoc: sure, or "debian jabber server"
[02:10] <odat> i did
[02:10] <odat> doesn't help
[02:10] <nalioth> odat: some of the build scripts you have call gcc in a way the gcc doesnt understand
[02:10] <skon> Does anyone have any ideas about my gparted problem  ?
[02:10] <Seveas> odat, what does dpkg -l build-essential say?
[02:11] <Seveas> (pastebin the output)
[02:11] <gtrplr> well, thanks any ways
[02:11] <gtrplr> adios!
[02:11] <odat> no packages found matching
[02:11] <jhenn> my sound doesn't work in gxine and audacity but it works in bmp and sound juicer.  anyone know why?
[02:11] <psusi> skon, what happens when you grab the left edge of the partition and try to drag it further left into the free space?
[02:12] <sambaseeker> Can anybody send me link for Samba tutorial for Ubuntu?
[02:12] <ilba7r> is there a link for standard way to format a wiki?
[02:12] <skon> psusi: nothing
[02:13] <shsnoc> Thank you for your suggestion.  I'll look into jabber some.
[02:13] <psusi> hrm... I thought you could do that?  hrm... you ARE doing this from the livecd right?
[02:13] <skon> yes live CD
[02:13] <odat> Seveas, no packages found matching
[02:13] <chance2105_> How can you tell what package a particular file belongs to?
[02:13] <interfear> whas a fast mirror like 300k/sec?
[02:13] <interfear> im only getin 100 from all the ones on the sie
[02:13] <odat> anyone ever use ccd2iso?
[02:13] <Seveas> odat, then READ WHAT UBOTU SENT
[02:14] <shsnoc> One other question, I know on a debian distro I could control all the places it looked for packages.  On a standard ubuntu install, I'd imagine only I don't have access to many sites to download from.  Is this true?
[02:14] <skon> shsnoc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <Seveas> shsnoc, ubuntu uses the same mechanism as debian, you can download from wherever you want...
[02:14] <shsnoc> Do you have some good places I should add to that list?
[02:14] <Seveas> !tell shsnoc about easysource
[02:15] <shsnoc> easysource?
[02:15] <Seveas> the link ubotu sent you has a few nice ones
[02:15] <interfear> is there a way to do an internet install?
[02:15] <shsnoc> Forgive me, I just recently left MS cold turkey and trying to pick all this stuff up.
[02:15] <Seveas> interfear, yes, but it's far from easy
[02:15] <sambaseeker> !tell sambaseeker about samba
[02:16] <psusi> skon, if you are particularly daring then, you can try doing it by hand from the command line
[02:16] <Seveas> shsnoc, then go there, tick all repositories you like and inspect the result :)
[02:16] <skon> psusi: er...okay
[02:16] <interfear> fuck why isnt this iso workting] 
[02:16] <skon> psusi: parted is always non destructive right?
[02:16] <interfear> theres no reason for it to now work
[02:16] <interfear> err not
[02:16] <psusi> skon, it tries to be... yes
[02:16] <lennox11> can someone help me on installing the ubuntu?
[02:16] <crimsun> jhenn: make sure you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup prior to starting Audacity.
[02:16] <lennox11> my cd rom will not work in windows xp
[02:16] <Seveas> interfear, that language is not tolerated
[02:16] <sambaseeker> can anybody tell ubotu to tell me about samba please.
[02:16] <psusi> skon, I've never actually used it... but I'd think that if gparted can't, then parted can't either... but give it a shot
[02:17] <Seveas> !smba
[02:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, Seveas
[02:17] <lennox11> are there any bootdisks i can make to install it
[02:17] <Seveas> !samba
[02:17] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:17] <skon> lennox11: ubuntu doesn't work in windows xp
[02:17] <psusi> skon, otherwise, I was thinking of using dd to move the partition to the left... fdisk, then extend
[02:17] <shsnoc> besides vi, is there another editor to use from terminal?
[02:17] <lennox11> i know, but how do i initiate the install disk
[02:17] <Seveas> shsnoc, nano
[02:17] <lennox11> i cant find any boot disks
[02:17] <sambaseeker> Seaves: thx
[02:17] <skon> psusi: i'll give it a shot
[02:17] <Seveas> or joe, jedit, mc-edit
[02:17] <shsnoc> thank you
[02:17] <Toma-> lennox11: you need to set your bios to boot from the cd drive
[02:17] <Seveas> eh, skip jedit
[02:18] <lennox11> i did that, and it still boots to my f: drive
[02:18] <lennox11> not my d: drive
[02:18] <psusi> lennox11, the install cd is bootable
[02:18] <Seveas> lennox11, did you burn the iso as image, not as file?
[02:18] <lennox11> yeah, as a image
[02:18] <psusi> lennox11, then stick the disk in and reboot
[02:18] <Toma-> lennox11: is the bios loading the cdrom before the drive?
[02:19] <lennox11> it flashes, but then goes to the cd rom
[02:19] <daemos> where can I find themes for ubuntu / gnome ?
[02:19] <Kyral> gnome-look.org
[02:20] <skon> daemos: art.gnome.org
[02:20] <nalioth> daemos: deviantart.com
[02:20] <Seveas> !tell daemos about themes
[02:20] <tuv> ksoftirqd is eating the cpu!
[02:20] <skon> Seveas: do you have any ideas about gparted?
[02:20] <Seveas> skon, no
[02:20] <skon> ok
[02:21] <sambaseeker> what is command to uninstall package?
[02:21] <Kyral> sudo apt-get remove
[02:21] <Seveas> sambaseeker, apt-get remove
[02:21] <sambaseeker> ok
[02:22] <silverpower> Now the installer is giving me a 'No installable kernel found' error.
[02:23] <sambaseeker> do I need restart PC after removal progress?
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: this an oldworld mac?
[02:23] <Kyral> sambaseeker: not in most cases
[02:23] <silverpower> nalioth: NewWorld.
[02:23] <sambaseeker> ok
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: i'm at a loss.
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: perhaps d/l and burn a hoary install cd
[02:24] <silverpower> nalioth: This was my last CD-R.
[02:25] <haasteem> hi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?
[02:26] <haasteem> it is very small right now
[02:26] <jono> hi all
[02:26] <jono> does anyone know if there is a 2.6.14 kernel for breezy?
[02:26] <jono> or is there a patchset that I can apply to the vanilla kernel to add the ubuntu patches?
[02:27] <itro> #ubuntu-es
[02:27] <Hobbsee> jono: howto at ubuntuforums.org
[02:27] <jono> what is that?
[02:27] <bur[n] er> lugradio guy! :)  searched backports I assume?
[02:28] <bur[n] er> nah... none in backports, nevermind
[02:30] <jono> bur[n] er, hey :) none in backports, don't want to move to dapper as it is my mythtv box
[02:30] <jono> Hobbsee, that howto only covers the performance patch - I also want all the driver patches
[02:30] <silverpower> nalioth: I'm going to try expert mode and see if I can get it going that way.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> jono: ah ok - i've not tried it, i'm on dapper anyway
[02:31] <bur[n] er> sorry jono
[02:31] <meepy> I love Ubuntu!
[02:31] <BxL> i love ubuntu too!
[02:31] <flodine> anyone running a diffrent WM here like flux or openbox that can help me
[02:31] <bur[n] er> flodine: what's up?
[02:31] <jono> bur[n] er, no probs :)
[02:32] <meepy> My laptop is 10 degee colder than on Windows!
[02:32] <flodine> when i sign in to my wm i got to go gnome-control-center  themes to set my icon why
[02:32] <bur[n] er> jono: there's always "build-essential" and kernel.org
[02:32] <silverpower> meepy: that's the magic of Linux. :)
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: what WM?
[02:33] <jono> bur[n] er, well I compiled my own kernel, but some bits are missing, and my rt2500 driver freezes the system it seems
[02:33] <flodine> im on pek right now
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: both flux and openbox?
[02:33] <meepy> :D
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: there's always gnome-theme-manager
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: or a text editor and config files
[02:34] <flodine>  bur[n] er is there a command to set it on start up
[02:34] <bur[n] er> flodine: oh, they don't have any icons at all before running gnome-control-center ?
[02:34] <flodine>  bur[n] er no
[02:35] <bur[n] er> brb
[02:36] <teprrr> hello there.. is there anything badly broken in dapper atm?
[02:36] <IdleOne> hello
[02:37] <Hobbsee> teprrr: think there were some problems with locales
[02:37] <Hobbsee> doesnt seem like too much
[02:37] <IdleOne> can someone tell me how to enable/install java?
[02:37] <gtrplr> I am looking for some wireless help
[02:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about javadebs
[02:38] <IdleOne> ty nalioth
[02:38] <teprrr> Hobbsee, nothing severe?
[02:38] <AndrewX> is there a kernel package that is basically the standard kernel + SATA support pre-compiled in on some repository somewhere?
[02:38] <Thunderguy> Where is traceroute? I have a manual page, but I don't have traceroute
[02:39] <Hobbsee> teprrr not on my machine, but others could have problems
[02:39] <ubuntublah> just installed ubuntu.. whats up with install no root password set..
[02:39] <ubuntublah> is there a default
[02:39] <ubuntublah> ?
[02:39] <nalioth> Thunderguy: it's not spelled that way
[02:39] <Hobbsee> !tell ubuntublah about rootsudo
[02:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntublah about sudo
[02:39] <teprrr> Hobbsee, heh, jus tthinking if I will dist-upgrade my desktop now :p
[02:39] <Thunderguy> nalioth: know what it is spelled like?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> teprrr: safer to install from a flight cd, but go ahead :)  backup first!
[02:39] <jono> I am currently running 32-bit breezy on my amd64 computer - if I compile my new kernel and select athlon64 as the processor type, will this cause problems?
[02:39] <odat> i am trying to mount and image file on my desktop how do it dothat?
[02:39] <steveO_Office> ok does anyone here no how and were to change the login sceen from kdm back to gdm?
[02:39] <teprrr> Thunderguy, mtr is a good traceroute app
[02:39] <nalioth> Thunderguy: how bout in a console type "ls /usr/bin/trace*"
[02:39] <benplaut> is there a way to stream quicktime and wmp, from NPR?
[02:40] <nalioth> steveO_Office: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:40] <Hobbsee> teprrr: it's useful to check the dapper section of ubuntuforums.org too - a lot of people go over there and tell of their experiences
[02:40] <haasteem> hi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?
[02:40] <steveO_Office> nalioth, thanks
[02:40] <cristophine> Hey guys, I"m having trouble getting my ATI Rage II working. The system just stalls when it tries to load libglx.
[02:40] <cristophine> Any ideas?
[02:40] <benplaut> haasteem: it's not in the config files?
[02:40] <benplaut> brb
[02:40] <teprrr> Hobbsee, already lookead at the forums.. and I'm not really into burning cds and stuff :)
[02:40] <Hobbsee> teprrr: go ahead then, hopefully it'll work
[02:41] <haasteem> benplaut: you mean the config files for blackbox?
[02:41] <benplaut> haasteem: err, yeah
[02:41] <teprrr> yup, will go for it soon.. hopefully works better than breezy :p
[02:42] <flodine>  bur[n] er you back
[02:42] <haasteem> benplaut: ok... yesterday i asked at #blackbox, and there i was told to do that in a file called .gtkrc-2.0, but that didn't work
[02:42] <IdleOne> ok can someone tell a newbie how to get and install java in detail?
[02:43] <IdleOne> please :)
[02:43] <binarydigit> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:43] <nalioth> IdleOne: did you read the info ubotu sent you?
[02:43] <bur[n] er> flodine: i'm still getting flux set up ;)
[02:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about deb
[02:43] <benplaut> haakonn: look for anything in $HOME that starts with ".gtkrc"... there are about 3
[02:43] <bur[n] er> flodine: hard to work with on a default config
[02:43] <IdleOne> I did .. server is down
[02:43] <steveO_Office> what the hell is apach.. doing running on a laptop wow I see im going to have to uninstall a few things here
[02:43] <nalioth> IdleOne: ubotu has told you everything you need to know about java
[02:43] <benplaut> haakonn: the one that says only .gtkrc is the one you want. if it doesn't exist, make it
[02:43] <bur[n] er> in any event, you could always put gnome-control-center in the startup
[02:43] <mcjerry> who is running dapper? about 2 days ago i noticed linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 in synaptic upgrades but when i try to upgrade them i get Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-10-386  but it is not installable
[02:44] <bur[n] er> flodine: or find some session management app... maybe gnome-session?  dunno if it'd work in fluxbox
[02:44] <dabaR> mcjerry: your sources.list sucks, then.
[02:44] <FSNG013> hi anyone has info how to get the SMC 2632 V2 card to work .. it shows up as a LAN card i.e. eth0 when we boot with it
[02:44] <haasteem> benplaut: was that for me?
[02:44] <benplaut> haasteem: yup
[02:44] <haasteem> ok
[02:45] <haasteem> let me try
[02:45] <Corrupter> is there any way to set up a surround sound system with Linux?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: yes, i get the same error
[02:45] <nalioth> mcjerry: your gonna have lots of instances like this. dapper is in developement and some pkgs outpace others
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: i've just left it so far - have you checked if there's a bug for it?
[02:45] <Haukkari> FSNG013: SMC 2632 V2 you say?
[02:45] <Haukkari> FSNG013: I vaguely remember configuring one of those a long time ago on my old PC laptop
[02:45] <FSNG013> Haukkari: yeas
[02:46] <Haukkari> FSNG013: it's a WLAN card, right?
[02:46] <steveO_Office> how do I stop sync with ntp.ubuntu time server
[02:46] <FSNG013> yep
[02:46] <NCLife> anyone knows why when i type "sudo eject /dev/sda2" it says "unable to open `/dev/sda2'"?
[02:46] <steveO_Office> no more ? now lol
[02:46] <FSNG013> it detects as eth0 when its supposed to be wlan0
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell steveO_Office about bum
[02:47] <Haukkari> FSNG013: does it work?
[02:47] <FSNG013> Haukkari: kinda
[02:47] <Haukkari> FSNG013: you can connect to a network and ping stuff?
[02:47] <FSNG013> nope
[02:48] <Haukkari> humh
[02:48] <haasteem> benplaut: that doesn't seem to work.... all i have in .gtkrc is: gtk-font-name = "Sans 10"
[02:48] <Haukkari> FSNG013: humm... Well, I remember it started working ok with some stabbing on some 2.6 kernels... It needed a lot of stabbing still, however... I manually compiled a kernel with support for those and looked the help-option for the kernel option... and it had some url where I had to go and get firmware and then I had to configure hotplug and so on... So, uh... :)
[02:48] <Haukkari> the SMC 2632 V2 or V3
[02:48] <haasteem> benplaut: and there is nothing about fonts in .blackboxrc
[02:48] <FSNG013> V2
[02:48] <steveO_Office> nalioth, Thanks once again....
[02:49] <nalioth> steveO_Office: pass on the knowledge.
[02:49] <pl_ice> bur[n] er  :) bed time, u after 8 hrs u're still here ...
[02:49] <Haukkari> FSNG013: tried googling for help?
[02:49] <steveO_Office> always do mate
[02:49] <sambaseeker> can anybody see why my Samba wont start? http://pastebin.com/483656
[02:49] <FSNG013> Haukkari: Thanks .. yeah sounds like thats what we need...
[02:50] <benplaut> haasteem: ooohhhh... well, it's not with gtkrc - that's only for gtk apps. i know that for Fluxbox, the font size is defined within the theme (and they're very close). editing the theme will probably let you change it - look in /usr/share/blackbox
[02:51] <FSNG013> Haukkari: We have aonther issue with the Dlink 802.g card too .. so kinda stuck with no network for that Cel550 laptop we had ..
[02:51] <DotheGuru> would anyone happen to know how to open up some ports for azureus?
[02:51] <flodine>  bur[n] er do you have to go to gnome-control to setthe icon
[02:51] <haasteem> benplaut: thaks, i will check right away
[02:51] <skon> What is the /lost+found folder for in linux?
[02:51] <Haukkari> FSNG013: the laptop doesn't have a wired ethernet?
[02:51] <pl_ice> sambaseeker testparm is smb.conf file check
[02:51] <mcjerry> dabaR: please dcc me your sources.conf if you are running dapper and have current kernel with no errors in synaptic
[02:51] <benplaut> haasteem: np... i'm outta here :)
[02:51] <jono> I am trying to build a new kernel and I changed the value of --append-to-version and get the error The changelog says we are creating 2.6.14mykerne1, but I thought the version is 2.6.14jb
[02:51] <jono>  - I tried to change it back but it doesnt fix it - any suggestions?
[02:52] <teprrr> Hobbsee, though it looks like locales are broken in my breezy too..
[02:52] <mike_g> Sound Question: Ubuntu - Breezy, VIA 8235 Sound, Music CD's and ogg files play with too much bass. Any ideas?
[02:52] <mcjerry> Hobbsee: yes i have just left it alone and haven't researched, thought i'd check here first....will research now and try to solve if interested pm m
[02:52] <teprrr> Hobbsee, many apps whine about my LANG being en, some of them work anyway, some don't
[02:53] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: if you find the solution, i'd like to know - the packages it depends on, one doesnt exist, so i'm assumign it's a case of waiting...
[02:53] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: http://pastebin.com/483662
[02:53] <Hobbsee> teprrr: true
[02:53] <DotheGuru> mike double eclick the sound icon on your taskbar
[02:53] <pl_ice> sambaseeker u don't seem to have startup script in /etc/int.d/samba, canu check that? ...
[02:53] <shadeofgrey> hey guys i need some pretty serious help
[02:53] <DotheGuru> i think the middle sliders fix it
[02:53] <mcjerry> Hobbsee: odd that new headers are there without image though
[02:54] <mike_g> Dothe... nope
[02:54] <intelikey> can't you just set locales to C ?
[02:54] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: true
[02:54] <teprrr> skon, http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/lostfound.shtml -- "linux what is lost+found" could've told you this :p
[02:54] <lasindi> Is there a way to get an Ubuntu machine to behave like a hub or switch? i.e., if I have two network interfaces on the machine, can it serve as a hub between them to extend the network?
[02:55] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: http://pastebin.com/483663 (content of samba)
[02:55] <HiddenWolf> what is the easiest way to convert a .flac to a low-encoding mp3?
[02:55] <mike_g> PCM is the only active channel
[02:55] <shadeofgrey> hiddenwolf!
[02:55] <FSNG013> Haukkari: no .. its a 5130 HP
[02:55] <shadeofgrey> i need you!
[02:55] <nalioth> lasindi: with 2 NICs, sure you can
[02:55] <Haukkari> FSNG013: :/
[02:55] <teprrr> intelikey, well, I thought they should be C as I haven't changed anything..
[02:55] <skon> thanks
[02:55] <Haukkari> FSNG013: you could always get a PCMCIA wired ethernet card
[02:56] <lasindi> nalioth: I don't really have any idea where to get started. What configurations/tools do I need?
[02:56] <Haukkari> FSNG013: I hear those don't cost much nowadays
[02:56] <Baal> Does anyone know how to set up an identd server?
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: umm, just the identd?
[02:57] <nalioth> lasindi: having 2 nics is the best start. after that you can use any iptables configurator to enable whatever actions you want
[02:57] <intelikey> en != C
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: if you are not behind a NAT, just install oidentd and start it
[02:57] <Baal> What is a NAT?
[02:57] <SirKillalot> network address translation
[02:57] <spiderworm> hey all i finally got dvd playback working but the audio is barely audible, i cant hardly hear it, and cant figure out how to turn it up....
[02:57] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: can you check default CHMOD for etc/samba forler?
[02:57] <spiderworm> can anyone help?
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: well, if you are behind a firewall or not. =)
[02:57] <sambaseeker> folder*
[02:58] <Baal> I am behind a firewall
[02:58] <lasindi> nalioth: isn't iptables the firewall? I know how to get iptables to accept or reject packets on given ports, but how does it apply to being a hub?
[02:58] <Haukkari> Baal: then you can't get identd to work unless you set up a ident proxy on that firewall... which can be difficult if the firewall is not a linux box
[02:58] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, do you want to raise the volume?
[02:58] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: yes
[02:58] <Baal> The firewall is built into a router.  What ports do I need to open
[02:59] <odat> how can i tell the path of my cdrom?
[02:59] <Haukkari> Baal: identd is on port 113 but it won't work. The router itself should have an identd proxy, which you can't do as it's a dumb router...
[02:59] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, try gnome-volume-control or alsamixer
[02:59] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: i have kmix open and im messing with all sorts of channels, but none of them are doing it.... dont know what to do...
[02:59] <nalioth> lasindi: iptables is your linux boxes routing system. you can use it for a firewall (unnecessary) or enable connection sharing or routing
[02:59] <Baal> I can set up forwarding on the router so that should work
[02:59] <teprrr> intelikey, well, it used to work earlier.. so it must be some ubuntu crap which has broken it during an update
[02:59] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, try the PCM channel
[02:59] <pl_ice> sambaseeker i got tiny version different then urs, but the script is the same, can u run it through standard smb.conf ? ... try killing smbd and other ones, maybe they stuck ..
[03:00] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: with pcm and master all the way up, its still barely audible
[03:00] <teprrr> lasindi, nalioth, isn't ipptables just a frontend for kernel's netfilter?
[03:00] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, how about audio with other apps?
[03:00] <nalioth> teprrr: iptables allows you to route things as you wish
[03:00] <Haukkari> Baal: yeah, one might think. :)
[03:00] <kathan> I've got a problem with eclipse, I try to install tptp but the plugin org.eclipse.emf.ecore.xmf is required. So I try to install emf but it doesn't work, there's a message saying I'm trying to install an unsigned feature. Then the installation fails and it's written "org.eclipse.update.internal.core.SiteFilePluginContentConsumer"
[03:00] <Haukkari> Baal: but identd has some weird stuff that it won't work with simple forwarding
[03:01] <Haukkari> Baal: you can try if you want, but it won't work. :(
[03:01] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: audio with other apps is fine
[03:01] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: this box is used as a mythtv box and the occasional gaming
[03:01] <intelikey> teprrr indeed.
[03:01] <spiderworm> everything works fine other than dvd playback
[03:01] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, then it should be a problem with the program
[03:01] <pl_ice> Haukkari i thouht it will work on forward ...
[03:01] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, what do you use for dvd playback?
[03:01] <Haukkari> pl_ice: well, you are free to try.
[03:01] <Baal> Haukkari: I see.  So there is no way to get identd to work through the router.
[03:01] <pl_ice> :)
[03:01] <Deep6> anyone got a link for flash player on mozilla
[03:02] <Toma-> !flash
[03:02] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:02] <Haukkari> Baal: well, not that I know of...
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Deep6: apt-cache search mozilla flash
[03:02] <mcjerry> anyone with Dapper running 2.6.15-10-386?
[03:02] <Toma-> mcjerry: file a bug.
[03:02] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: uh, its myplayer running through mythtv, i guess
[03:02] <smacky_wolf> Well, hi all.
[03:03] <Deep6> Hobbsee, tried, libflash-mozplugin doesn't seem to work
[03:03] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, you should try to change the audio plugin for mplayer or something, it works fine for me and DVD
[03:03] <Hobbsee> hmm
[03:03] <smacky_wolf> Anyone ever had issues trying to get kubuntu on a laptop? IE: the install process?
[03:03] <fit4lfe> I know thi is probably the wrong channel but does anyone user lftp here ?
[03:03] <pl_ice> smacky_wolf , yeh but mine is v. old
[03:03] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: on your cue, trying xine, sound seems fine in xine....
[03:04] <fit4lfe> does anyone user lftp here ?
[03:04] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: i'll try different apps, thanks
[03:04] <smacky_wolf> How old?
[03:04] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, vlc is also good
[03:04] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, or ogle
[03:04] <pl_ice> 450 mhz :)
[03:04] <smacky_wolf> Ah. Sounds about the same XD
[03:05] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: they are OK because I installed samba again
[03:05] <lasindi> nalioth: I'm still sort of lost here. I mean, how do I configure iptables to do routing like a hub? I don't want it to act like a router, just a hub, i.e. an extension of the network.
[03:05] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,  about 450    ouch  id use  server install   then apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <nalioth> lasindi: you can do it from firestarter, iirc
[03:05] <smacky_wolf> Acer 500t. It refuses to fdo anything. Just SITS in the first install for hours.
[03:05] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   works great on nmy 500 lappy
[03:05] <smacky_wolf> Pas: I have no interwebs on it at this stage.
[03:06] <pl_ice> smacky_wolf yes, it's to do with the power, swith the acpi off, if i can remember well
[03:06] <pl_ice> had the same
[03:06] <smacky_wolf> Ooh, OK. Cool.
[03:06] <lasindi> nalioth: okay thanks
[03:06] <smacky_wolf> Thanks muchly *goes and pokes laptop*
[03:06] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   if its that old  use these switches at boot: linux acpi=off noapic
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> It hasn't done that with any other distros.
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> Thanks, pas. Shall give it a go.
[03:07] <pl_ice> sambaseeker u didn't do any config in smb.conf? .. or u did?
[03:07] <AndrewX> stupid kernel panic error
[03:08] <SirKillalot> good night ubuntu lovers
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Pas, did you have any issues with sound when you got it going?
[03:08] <pl_ice> night
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Ever since I junked Win95 it hasn't made any other noises than the PC speaker
[03:08] <intelikey> it takes a brave kernel to never panic
[03:09] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,  dont believe i did,  but the desktop needed reconfig  wasnt full screen
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Arh.
[03:09] <AndrewX> or possibly a kernel with SATA support compiled in, instead of a module =/
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Debian hated it, Mandrake hated it, erm.... LFS wouldn't even get past a PANIC
[03:09] <AndrewX> but that would require being able to bood
[03:09] <intelikey> that too
[03:09] <AndrewX> *biit
[03:09] <skon> Anyone run ubuntu on a laptop and have trouble when you close the lid? Screen won't come back on?
[03:09] <AndrewX> *boot
[03:10] <nalioth> skon: most of us have that 'feature'
[03:10] <mister_roboto> skon: yes, i have that problem
[03:10] <Toma-> AndrewX: you cant get a working kernel to boot?
[03:10] <durt> skon: happens occasionally for some reason
[03:10] <odat> i mounted an image how do i unmount it
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> Hey, can someone tell me if there ARE any major differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu, other than the Xwin?
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> I got Kubuntu becasue Gnome is ugly :(
[03:11] <skon> So I take it there is no fix for it?
[03:11] <pashaw> nalioth,   is that an acpi bug?     my lappy comes back fine    but its old so all the acpi is disabled
[03:11] <Toma-> smacky_wolf: no diff. except for kde + usplash image
[03:11] <intelikey> smacky_wolf not uspposed to be any
[03:11] <AndrewX> Toma: I can't get the default kernel on the Breezy CD to boot. "Kernel Panic: VFS: can't mount root fs"
[03:11] <nalioth> pashaw: there is a lot of trouble, it seems, with sleep/hibernate
[03:11] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   how much RAM that lappy have?
[03:11] <mister_roboto> skon: it actually runs when coming out of standby, i can hear disk spinning when i do commands but the screen won't turn on. haven't figured out a fix but kind of quit looking
[03:11] <pashaw> nalioth,   thx  was installing onto my centrino lappy soon
[03:11] <Toma-> AndrewX: sounds like you have some errors on the cd. or on the new partition
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> 64mb
[03:12] <skon> mister_roboto: same here....I found that if you "suspend" the computer, it'll never do that
[03:12] <mister_roboto> skon: but it just freezes with garbled screen out of hibernate. this is using nvidia's binary driver
[03:12] <Toma-> or possibly the boot sector
[03:12] <nalioth> pashaw: it should work fine (my centrino HP dv1000 worked ootb) but i dont close my lid
[03:12] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   youll want to use xubuntu  then
[03:12] <Toma-> AndrewX: basically, its not the kernel.
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> And Pas, that fixed it. It's further than it got into the last 4 hours.
[03:12] <AndrewX> Toma: I've tried 2 CDs. It worked when I upgraded from Horay to Breezy, but broke on reinstall. I think it has something to do with the fact that I have both an IDE and a SATA drive
[03:12] <pashaw> nalioth,   ahh cool dv1000   is similar to my x1030
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> Aww, so I ned to download ANOTHER iso?
[03:13] <Toma-> AndrewX: i see.
[03:13] <MarcN> pashaw: I have an hp nc6000
[03:13] <jiangguowei> a bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?
[03:13] <mister_roboto> skon: oddly enough, one of the previous iterations of ubuntu worked coming out of suspend.   but never worked again after one of the updates
[03:13] <Toma-> AndrewX: is the grub/boot option loading the right root fs?
[03:13] <nuttychicken> sorry for soundin stupid but i'm new to linux, is there a compiler that comes with ubuntu? if not is there a place i could get one with a guide to getting it to work?
[03:13] <mister_roboto> skon: i just keep trying it every time they update the kernel  :)
[03:13] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   no  get installed   see if your eyes bleed from the slowness :P    then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   sold only be about 26mb download or so
[03:14] <smacky_wolf> Oh, cool.
[03:14] <durt> nuttychicken: what kind of compiler?
[03:14] <skon> mister_roboto: same here...it's not a huge problem, works every time using suspend but it's also a pain to hit the logoff button and suspend every time you want to pack it up
[03:14] <nuttychicken> c++
[03:14] <sagarp> i have a 160gb drive and a 250gb drive...i want some space for fat32 storage, and the linux partition on the 250..how should i parition it?!
[03:14] <smacky_wolf> Erm, can I grab the package from the ubuntu website por whatever, then put it on a CD? I have no interwebs with it
[03:14] <durt> nuttychicken: get build-essential, and use g++
[03:15] <nuttychicken> build-essential?
[03:15] <skon> nuttychicken: try sudo apt-get install g++
[03:15] <durt> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:15] <skon> and that
[03:15] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   not sure  i know it read some stuff off the cd  didnt pay attention how much extra if any
[03:15] <Baal> Haukkari:  I have D-link router and they have a tech support FAQ about setting up the router for identd with mIRC (I assume on windows).  They say to set up a virtual server for port 113, open ports 2070-2075, and set up mIRC to DCC with these ports.
[03:15] <jiangguowei>  a bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?
[03:15] <smacky_wolf> Ah, OK.
[03:16] <nuttychicken> thanks :)
[03:16] <smacky_wolf> Thanks, Pas. You rawk :D
[03:16] <Snake__> Feedom.
[03:16] <Snake__> :)
[03:16] <Baal> Haukkari:  Do you think this will work with xchat?
[03:17] <smacky_wolf> Hrmmmmm... How does someone rate my chances of getting Ragnarok Online to work under WINE?
[03:18] <AndrewX> Toma: actually, no. The installer won't put it anywhere but on the IDE drive, even if the SATA is set as primary in the BIOS. If I install it with SATA drive as the default drive, grub doesn't come up until i go back into the BIOS and switch the default to IDE, then grub comes up.
[03:18] <Toma-> smacky_wolf: try google "appdb" then look for rangarok
[03:18] <smacky_wolf> Woo, thanks.
[03:19] <Toma-> AndrewX: well get grub to come up, then change the root=/dev/blah to root=/dev/yourSATA
[03:19] <mister_roboto> smacky_wolf: did you try this?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ro-client/
[03:19] <pl_ice> guys! shit, when i use fdisk, does it wirte partitions on the spot, or at the end? o/w i just f*cdkd my ipod ...
[03:19] <crimsun_> heh.
[03:19] <Toma-> pl_ice: dont swear, youll get banned.
[03:20] <pl_ice> k
[03:20] <durt> pl_ice: hit q to quit without writing
[03:20] <Toma-> pl_ice: it writes when you say "Quit and write changes to disk"
[03:20] <smacky_wolf> Ice: Did you make a backup like a good little fanboy?
[03:20] <pl_ice> yeh, made backup, but wiped wrong partition :) backup tooook looong time ...
[03:20] <pl_ice> kool, thnx
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> its time for me to get off my lazy ass and reinstall dapper
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> ill brb 40 mins or less
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> keep my seat at the bar warm
[03:21] <smacky_wolf> Good boy. *pets*
[03:22] <shadeofgrey> hi smacky wolf...  was that pet for me?
[03:22] <smacky_wolf> If you want. :D
[03:22] <smacky_wolf> But Ice gets one, too.
[03:23] <Hobbsee> shadeofgrey: dont remind me...
[03:23] <smacky_wolf> OK, pets for all then!
[03:23] <maskd> god damn turning off the login sound makes gnome load so much quicker
[03:23] <Toma-> kekeke ^_^
[03:24] <skon> How do you turn off the login sound?
[03:24] <jhenn> i can't get my sound working with some programs
[03:24] <skon> Nevermind, found it
[03:24] <crimsun_> jhenn: did you follow the tip that I gave you above?
[03:24] <maskd> jhenn: System > Preferences > Sound
[03:24] <BoukenPink> Okay, so my ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV has TV-In... and I want to record something to a video file... How would I go about doing that in Ubuntu? :3
[03:25] <jhenn> crimsun_: no i missed that sorry
[03:25] <maskd> select the sound events tab
[03:25] <maskd> then in the box thing, select log in, and press the remove button
[03:26] <crimsun_> jhenn: just disable the sound server startup
[03:26] <jhenn> crimsun_: won't i have no sound at all then
[03:26] <highwind> hello
[03:26] <Toma-> better yet, disable sound server all together.
[03:27] <smacky_wolf> Heeeeyyyy... Anyone else got a Sony Ericsson W800i?
[03:27] <BoukenPink> Anyone? :D
[03:27] <crimsun_> jhenn: you just won't have sound /events/
[03:27] <nalioth> #ubuntu-offtopic  awaits all of you folks who aren't needing ubuntu help
[03:27] <crimsun_> jhenn: you'll still have sound as long as your sound apps are configured to use gstreamer's audio sink (System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> ALSA)
[03:28] <smacky_wolf> Ok, my bad.
[03:28] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay ill restart and try this
[03:28] <smacky_wolf> Thanks for the help, guys <3
[03:28] <jhenn> crimsun_: it was set to esd and oss should i change it to both alsa?
[03:29] <crimsun_> jhenn: only change the sink to ALSA
[03:30] <AndrewX> Toma- yeah, it does say root=/dev/sda4. I also have Windows installed, and its on /dev/hda1, which grub loads just fine.
[03:30] <AndrewX> but it chokes on loading the kernel off the sata drive
[03:31] <jhenn> crimsun_: the tests don't work
[03:31] <crimsun_> jhenn: did you uncheck sound server startup in System> Preferences> Sound ?
[03:31] <AndrewX> I'm thinking about just ditching the IDE drive at this point.
[03:31] <jhenn> crimsun_: yes
[03:31] <intelikey> just a thought AndrewX but you could copy your kernel and initrd to the hda1 and load them from there
[03:31] <Toma-> AndrewX: so the ubuntu kernel is on the SATA drive?
[03:31] <crimsun_> jhenn: pastebin the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[03:32] <AndrewX> Toma: Yes. /boot = /dev/sda1    / = /dev/sda4
[03:32] <lampshade> Ok, I have a fresh server install, I want to install fluxbox, and xmms, and VNC.  How do I do this?  Normally I would say you just apt-get this and apt-get that, but apparently that is wrong or something as nothing works and everything falls apart leading to great frustration
[03:32] <Toma-> i see.
[03:32] <lampshade> is there a particular order or something.... sigh
[03:33] <skon> lampshade: did you enable your repositories and then update?
[03:33] <crimsun_> lampshade: xmms is in main; just install it. You'll need to enable universe for fluxbox and tightvnc-server.
[03:33] <crimsun_> tightvncserver^
[03:33] <lampshade> skon:  Yeah, everything installs, just... nothing talks to eachother... things don't work... either X is spiking at 99% cpu or vnc is.... one of the two.  when I tried tightvnc, it wouldn't work because it was missing some freaking fonts... which makes no sense to me
[03:34] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6357
[03:34] <lampshade> even after making sure xfonts-base was installed
[03:34] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[03:34] <skon> lampshade, uh that's strange, what are your specs?
[03:34] <crimsun_> lampshade: pastebin the errors
[03:35] <epix> who wants to help me fix a broken partition table?
[03:35] <skon> not me!
[03:35] <skon> I had trouble with partitions that nobody could help me with :o
[03:35] <epix> anyone?
[03:35] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6358
[03:36] <braniff> epix, what's wrong with it?
[03:36] <skon> epix what's the quesiton
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epix about anyone
[03:36] <epix> im this |--| close to just reinstalling
[03:36] <crimsun_> jhenn: oh boy.
[03:36] <AndrewX> so to sum up, /boot = /dev/sda1   / = /dev/sda4    C:\ = /dev/hda1       breezy install loads grub onto /dev/hda no matter what and gives a kernel panic: vfs: can't mount root fs error when loading the kernel.
[03:36] <AndrewX> but windows is fine. =/
[03:36] <epix> ok, i ran parted and my computer crashed.
[03:36] <epix> screwing over my patition table. Ubuntu wont boot.
[03:37] <epix> my setup is /boot on one partition and everything else on another
[03:37] <pashaw> epix,    it actually crashed  or after you finished ubuntu wont boot?
[03:37] <skon> did you reinstall grub?
[03:37] <xiaogil> firefox tries to download my php script instead of running it, what can I do ?
[03:37] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, select Custom. Then in the text entry field below it, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[03:37] <epix> pashaw: it crashed during
[03:37] <epix> skon: no.
[03:37] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me how to get Grub to hve Windows at the top and not have the ten-second-default-thingy?
[03:37] <skon> epix: might want to try that
[03:37] <epix> cfdisk can read the table fine. so its not that screwed :P
[03:38] <Toma-> AndrewX: what is the 'root  (hdX,X)' line say?
[03:38] <epix> skon: can i do it from live?
[03:38] <skon> epix: you do that from the main install CD
[03:38] <lampshade> crimsun_:  there are too many to even begin... That's why I mean it feels like the system fell apart... I felt like I have to do everything manually--  first it complained there was no xsession, so I made one with "exec fluxbox"  then fluxbox wouldn't work properly because the xorg package didn't install xterm or some crap but after xterm was installed it seemed to work but then it only worked when physically at the machine not through VNC(UGhhhhh
[03:38] <AndrewX> Toma: in the grub conf?
[03:38] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay ill brb my irssi is messing up
[03:38] <Toma-> yeh
[03:38] <AndrewX> toma: or the error msg?
[03:38] <Toma-> in grub
[03:38] <bob832> whats the easiest way to setup acpi in gnome?  saw that in kde, all you have to do is go to control panel and was wondering if there is something just as easy in gnome
[03:38] <epix> skon: can you do it from the live CD? I have it booted atm.
[03:38] <AndrewX> (hd1,0)
[03:38] <AndrewX> err
[03:38] <crimsun_> bob832: it should work automagically.
[03:39] <AndrewX> wait
[03:39] <snkmchnb> maybe someone could point me in the right direction, i'm looking for a package list for ubuntu live
[03:39] <skon> epix: I don't know how
[03:39] <jhenn> crimsun_: back
[03:39] <lampshade> I'm blowing away the machine and then starting fresh.  First I'm going to apt-get update and upgrade.  then install xserver-xorg then fluxbox
[03:39] <crimsun_> lampshade: so start pastebining them.
[03:39] <jhenn> crimsun_: test still isn't working for that
[03:39] <epix> skon: im thinking of just wiping the whole thing. I made backups.
[03:39] <skon> ubotu: tell snkmchnb about easysource
[03:39] <crimsun_> jhenn: open a Terminal and try: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[03:40] <skon> epix: lol, okay
[03:40] <epix> skon: the only thing that i need to fix is some config, but I have set up ndiswrapper SO many times that I can do it very quickly
[03:40] <skon> epix: that alllllways fixes things
[03:40] <snkmchnb> ty
[03:40] <skon> yw
[03:40] <epix> skon: ill rescue anything important now :)
[03:40] <bob832> crimsun_:  oh, saw that in kde, things like suspend, cpu throttling, etc were disabled (unchecked in the control panel) by default
[03:40] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   you get an answer?
[03:40] <bob832> and figured i had to enable them
[03:40] <skon> epix: ah ndiswrapper...i love that thing...it was so easy once I figured out how it worked haha
[03:40] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: nope not yet
[03:40] <crimsun_> bob832: Ubuntu and Kubuntu handle ACPI stuff differently
[03:40] <intelikey> epix mount your installed ubuntu some place like /mnt      and do a sudo chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda        assumes ide master.
[03:41] <jhenn> crimsun_: it just sits there
[03:41] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, something still has it open. lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[03:41] <epix> intelikey: mount throws an error: operation not supported.
[03:42] <bob832> so is it safe to say that ubuntu = auto. acpi     kubuntu = some assembly required?
[03:42] <crimsun_> bob832: yes and no.
[03:42] <crimsun_> bob832: the deciding factor is the hardware itself
[03:42] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   edit /boot/grub/menu.1st   you want to ONLY change near the top it will say  default    0         count your kernels starting with 0,1,2,3,4  til you hit your windows ntry  and change default to that #
[03:42] <intelikey> epix  you can test to see if the partition/s are intact with   sudo fdisk -l
[03:42] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6359
[03:43] <skon> epix: did you do sudo?
[03:43] <Sunn_T> I just burned 3 ubuntu disks. All 3 won't let me finish installing the "Base System". I did an integrity check of the CDs. All 3 failed. Two CDs were corrupted on the same file, and the other on a different one. Is the CD burner the problem?
[03:43] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   as long as you dont change anything else   you can always manually select your boot kernel  to fix it
[03:43] <gr3g123> Hey guys, im trying to install mysql-cc, and im getting this error: mysqlcc: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3-3) but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <crimsun_> jhenn: close the System> Preferences windows
[03:43] <jono> ok x remote bods - how do I run a remote x app on my current laptop but so it uses the settings on the remote computer ?
[03:43] <bob832> crimsun_:  oh ok then
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: it is.
[03:43] <gr3g123> how can i fix it
[03:43] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: so wait, will there just be windows and ubuntu, or do all those other things of ubuntu (safe mode or whatever) count?
[03:43] <skon> Sunn_T: did you do a checksum?
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: i do sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/system
[03:43] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay works
[03:43] <intelikey> epix use   ls /    to make sure that /mnt exists
[03:43] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,  all count    first uncommented entry is 0
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: i made the dir
[03:44] <intelikey> k
[03:44] <bob832> crimsun_:  thanks
[03:44] <Sunn_T> skon - I did somethink like that. The install disk let me check the integrity of the files and such.
[03:44] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   each entry starts with "title"
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: ok i'll try that
[03:44] <xiaogil> how to block the uninstallation of the package phpmyadmin ?
[03:44] <skon> Sunn_T: where did you download from? is it the correct size?
[03:44] <Sunn_T> The ubuntu website.
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: wait, where is the "boot" folder? ^_^;
[03:44] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   then below   default youll see you time out option
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> oh nvm
[03:45] <intelikey> epix you can  sudo umount /dev/hda*    then try to mount it again.
[03:45] <jhenn> crimsun_: some apps are still giving me problems
[03:45] <intelikey> and yes that will spew errors
[03:45] <skon> Sunn_T: well do a checksum where you get the number of bytes in the file and then you compare that to the number on the download site (don't remember off the top of my head where it was)
[03:46] <Sunn_T> The ISO file is the same size as what it's supposed to be before download.
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: oper not supported
[03:46] <intelikey> command ?
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: which works?
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: i think windows is 6; does that sound right? :/
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/sys
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: the aplay?
[03:46] <jhenn> crimsun_: actually its working
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: sudoed
[03:46] <jhenn> crimsun_: do you use audacity?
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, good.
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: and what should i set the timeout to to get there to be no timeout at all? 0 or just some extremely high number?
[03:47] <skon> Sunn_T: and what are you burning it with? you might try burning it at a lower speed too if you are having buffer underrun problems
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: yes but not on this computer.
[03:47] <jhenn> crimsun_: so im using alsa now?
[03:47] <xiaogil> I can't uninstall phpmyadmin, is that a general bug ??
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: yes
[03:47] <intelikey> modprobe reiserfs ?
[03:47] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,    dont go below 2-3
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: (you were using ALSA before, too, just through esd)
[03:47] <bob832> crimsun_:  how could i test something like cpu throttling to see if it is working correctly (in other words, see how much it throttles my cpu)  ?
[03:47] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: i don't understand. D:
[03:47] <epix> intelikey: oper not supported
[03:47] <HrdwrBoB> bob832: with the CPU speed panel applet
[03:47] <pashaw> purplefeltangel, too low  youll have a heck of a time picking anything but default
[03:48] <crimsun_> bob832: if you leave it idle, it should automatically throttle down.
[03:48] <jhenn> crimsun_: audacity says "error while opening sound device. Please check the input device settings and the project sample rate." what does that mean?
[03:48] <bob832> oh, didn't realize there was an applet for that  lol
[03:48] <Sunn_T> skon - The cheksum is correct.
[03:48] <crimsun_> jhenn: you need to close /all/ open audio apps before starting Audacity
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: oh, for the timeout! ok. but the number of a given kernel (ie windows) is just its order on the list?
[03:49] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   yes
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> ok, thank you!!
[03:49] <skon> Sunn_T: read above
[03:49] <xiaogil> E: phpmyadmin: le sous-processus pre-removal script a retourn une erreur de sortie d'tat 127
[03:49] <xiaogil> what's wrong with phpmyadmin ?
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: er, gragh, how do i get the file to not be read-only?
[03:49] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   sudo
[03:49] <epix> intelikey: i will remind you that this partition is most likely rather screwed over...
[03:50] <Sunn_T> skon - I burned it at 40x and then at 8x. I think that 8x is the lowest my burner will go.
[03:50] <intelikey> afirmed
[03:50] <intelikey> ff
[03:50] <crimsun_> jhenn: also, lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[03:50] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: umm sudo what ^^;;; sorry i'm so bad at this
[03:50] <skon> Sunn_T: with what program, under what OS
[03:51] <Malachai> Can I ask an OpenOffice.org question? Noone responds in their IRC channel...
[03:51] <xiaogil> why phpmyadmin is unremovable ?
[03:51] <nalioth> Malachai: ask
[03:51] <intelikey> booting live cd on a slow system,  give me a minute epix
[03:51] <Toma-> Malachai: go ahead
[03:51] <pashaw> purplefeltangel, your taking a risk understand?     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st      just change  default # and timeout nothing else
[03:51] <Sunn_T> I used Alcohol 120 and NTI CD-Maker Gold.
[03:51] <jhenn> crimsun_: snd_pcm_oss            65024  0
[03:51] <epix> intelikey: no problem.
[03:51] <Sunn_T> WinXP
[03:51] <jono> any mplayer experts here?
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> pashaw ok thank you
[03:51] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, then you should be fine.
[03:51] <crimsun_> jono: I'm no expert, but what do you need?
[03:52] <epix> on another subject, should windows be installed first, or ubuntu?
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: i close 'em and its still not letting me record
[03:52] <crimsun_> epix: Windows.
[03:52] <nalioth> jono: just ask your question
[03:52] <nalioth> epix: windows first
[03:52] <intelikey> win
[03:52] <Malachai> In calc, I want some cells to update automatically. When I enter information into one cell, I want corresponding cells to automatically take the info and calculate the result.
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: i want to record the sound output on my system
[03:52] <Malachai> Instead of having to drag the crosshair down from the cell above it.
[03:52] <epix> nalioth: crimsun_ : do i let windows handle partitions?
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: in non-compressed format
[03:52] <nalioth> epix: nope.
[03:52] <jono>  is there a way I can run mplayer on my laptop and have it display the video that is cat'ed from /dev/video1 on my desktop - so basically I want to cat /dev/video1 and view it on my laptop
[03:52] <crimsun_> jhenn: you can do that with arecord, too
[03:52] <epix> nalioth: so, create partitions then install windows?
[03:53] <crimsun_> jhenn: or the Sound Recorder
[03:53] <skon> Sunn_T: not sure what the problem is, but it's probably your software or your burner.....there is a program called "DVD Burner" (download.com) which works well, maybe you could try
[03:53] <Haukkari> jono: eh? :)
[03:53] <nalioth> epix: you can give windows 5gb and leave the rest free
[03:53] <skon> Sunn_T: besides that, not quite sure...sorry....you could always request free CDs fromUbuntu
[03:53] <Haukkari> jono: like in ASCII letters?
[03:53] <epix> nalioth: i need a bit more.
[03:53] <nalioth> epix: you run your windows installer, tell it to use 5gb. let it install
[03:53] <hanakj> DapperDrake:  how do I get files from my desk to my lap on floppy?
[03:53] <epix> nalioth: ok.
[03:53] <crimsun_> jhenn: I'd first test with arecord to see if you can record. The tumbler driver is fragile in versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.10
[03:54] <epix> nalioth: or more?
[03:54] <nalioth> epix: after that you can boot your linux installer and use the rest (linux will find it)
[03:54] <jono> Haukkari, I want to view the video from 'cat /dev/video1' on a seperate machine on the network
[03:54] <intelikey> epix point is leave free 'unalocated' space on the disk
[03:54] <Haukkari> jono: use videolan client or share the video
[03:54] <nalioth> epix: i havent run windows since 2000, i'd rather you not ran it at all. but you can give it what you like
[03:54] <mcjerry> jono why not use vlc to stream to laptop and use mplayer as client
[03:54] <epix> nalioth: i would much rather do about 15 win and rest for linux. and I have a good reason to run linux. freebob isnt good enough, yet,
[03:55] <epix> nalioth: i made too many mistakes there.
[03:55] <crimsun_> mcjerry's suggestion is the better one, but make sure you use a backported vlc from Dapper
[03:55] <jhenn> crimsun_: sound recorder says "/dev/dsp" does not exist
[03:55] <epix> nalioth: And I have a good reason to run windows: Freebob isnt good enough, yet...*
[03:55] <cyphase> is there a per-user cron type program?
[03:55] <crimsun_> jhenn: ls -l /dev/dsp*
[03:55] <crimsun_> cyphase: at
[03:55] <jono> I have never used vlc - is it difficult to set it to stream?
[03:55] <cyphase> yea, i've heard about that..
[03:55] <Haukkari> jono: I don't think so.. try. :)
[03:56] <jhenn> crimsun_: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-12-29 19:27 /dev/dsp
[03:56] <cyphase> i thought it was a system program though..
[03:56] <cyphase> thanx
[03:56] <Malachai> so, nalioth, can you help me?
[03:56] <Haukkari> but I'm going to bed now. ->
[03:56] <crimsun_> jono: no, but the Breezy version segfaults, which is why you want a backport.
[03:56] <Malachai> or Toma-?
[03:56] <nalioth> Malachai: i know nothing about openoffice.
[03:56] <epix> theres only one thing I want from my ubuntu partition, but It doesnt look like im going to get it...
[03:56] <Malachai> Ah.
[03:56] <hanakj> Anybody how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?
[03:56] <lampshade> Ok, I just installed server, ssh, and then changed teh sources and updated.  Now, I want to install FluxBox and VNC so that I can VNC into Fluxbox and run Xmms that way.  What should I do next?
[03:56] <bur[n] er> hanakj: drag & drop? ;)
[03:56] <mcjerry> jono, u can use the gui wizard or go to videolan.org and many stream command lines are there for reference
[03:56] <crimsun_> hanakj: pmount the floppy diskette, then copy the file over.
[03:56] <epix> hannakj: places: computer, floppy, drag n' drop!
[03:57] <hanakj> burner:  Drag to what?  My desktop is bare, i just went through the install of 5.10 of Ububtu.
[03:57] <jhenn> crimsun_: any ideas about this?
[03:58] <crimsun_> jhenn: you could try using Dapper's ALSA
[03:58] <GameHard> Hi
[03:58] <bur[n] er> hanakj: open "places -> computer"
[03:58] <crimsun_> jhenn: otherwise ask nalioth, because I believe he's using the tumbler driver, too
[03:58] <epix> hm, what is the file core and why is it a bomb?
[03:58] <jono> mcjerry, thanks
[03:58] <intelikey> epix try sudo -
[03:58] <GameHard> I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition
[03:58] <epix> intelikey: i did :P
[03:58] <GameHard> with gparted in the breezy live cd
[03:58] <nalioth> GameHard: use qtparted
[03:59] <hanakj> burner: when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"
[03:59] <intelikey> epix it give you a root shell ?
[03:59] <epix> intelikey: now i got a root shell
[03:59] <intelikey> ok try a mount from there
[03:59] <jhenn> nalioth: you around?
[04:00] <epix> intelikey: no dice.
[04:00] <GameHard> And it would ignore me when I try resizing
[04:00] <epix> intelikey: oper not supported
[04:00] <skon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355 <-- can someone help me with gparted
[04:00] <nalioth> jhenn: yes i am.
[04:00] <intelikey> e2fsck /dev/hda#
[04:00] <mcjerry> Crimsun_: on this install of dapper, last upgrade to dbus and libdbus removed vlc ..... have compiled vlc from current source to get working....
[04:01] <mahangu> how can i see what broken paclkages i have
[04:01] <lampshade> ok I'm installing xserver-xorg
[04:01] <crimsun_> mcjerry: you can do that, sure. I haven't fixed vlc yet because it's blocked on mozilla-dev issues on [!amd64] 
[04:01] <cyphase> can you set who's allowed to use a program or not just by setting the /etc/programname.allow/deny files?
[04:01] <hanakj> burner: when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"
[04:01] <mcjerry> mahangu: open synaptic then custom search broken
[04:02] <cyphase> or does that program have to specifically support it?
[04:02] <jhenn> nalioth: im trying to record the output of my system and sound recorder is saying ALSA device "default" does not exist.  I'm on a ibook as i believe you are.
[04:02] <epix> intelikey: superblock error
[04:02] <epix> intelikey: but, its reiser
[04:02] <GameHard> Hello?
[04:03] <epix> intelikey: reiserfsck?
[04:03] <intelikey> sure
[04:03] <mcjerry> crimsun_  have amd64 but am runnin i386 due to w32 codec issues and vdr issues wth ffmpeg.....stil trying to get the time to go 64bit and workaround issues
[04:03] <nalioth> jhenn: so what did you need to know?
[04:03] <jhenn> nalioth: how to record the sound
[04:04] <nalioth> i don't record sounds on any of my puters, jhenn
[04:04] <epix> intelikey: one corruption found
[04:04] <Canon> i'm having problems loading and configuring Xwindows using ubuntu64 on an AMD64 with an ATI Xpress200M though i can see the drivers for it
[04:04] <epix> intelikey: can be fixed only when running with --rebuild-tree
[04:04] <Canon> it's an HP zv6000
[04:04] <intelikey> do it
[04:05] <epix> intelikey: it will take a while...
[04:05] <intelikey> yes it will
[04:05] <DonL> Hi folks
[04:05] <Malachai> How do I make Ubuntu use my headphones/speakers instead of my Internal Speakers?
[04:06] <Malachai> I'm on a laptop with headphones, but people glance my way when they hear my notebook go 'beep!'
[04:06] <alvaro> hey i need help
[04:06] <skon> Malachai: probably something wrong with your sound card?
[04:06] <alvaro> im trying to install bit torrent client
[04:06] <Malachai> ?
[04:06] <alvaro> i do the wget command
[04:06] <Malachai> What do you mean, skon?
[04:06] <alvaro> but when i try to go on with the next step:
[04:06] <GTroy> alvaro: I'd use apt-get
[04:06] <epix> intelikey: wait, can I even expand a partition then install windows or do i have to do it fresh?
[04:06] <mcjerry> Malachai: run alsamixer or gui mixer to make sure line/out not muted
[04:06] <GTroy> actually apt-get install
[04:06] <alvaro> ok
[04:07] <mcjerry> Malachai: what sound card you have?
[04:07] <kqwhip> hello. i need to manually change x display manager, since kmd which i use now seem to have a huge proglem (i get an error and then linux stops loading on bootup). how do i manually change x display manager to say, gdm ?
[04:07] <alvaro> what do i type because i downloaded from:
[04:07] <alvaro> `Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz2'
[04:07] <skon> Malachai: if your internal speakers are beeping, it probably means your wave sound is not configured correctly
[04:07] <Malachai> Creative Sound Blaster.
[04:07] <Malachai> skon, how could I fix it?
[04:07] <pashaw> kqwhip,   did it ever work  or is this fresh install?
[04:07] <GTroy> I'd try apt-get install azureus
[04:07] <Malachai> mcjerry, my line/out is muted.
[04:07] <GTroy> and don't worry about the tarball
[04:08] <GameHard> I have the same problem as this guy, only I'm trying to shrink a NTFS partition: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76372.html
[04:08] <GameHard> oops
[04:08] <skon> Malachai: no straight answers, if it's not autodetected, you'll have to do some research on how to install it yourself....search the Ubuntu Wiki for your sound card then search google
[04:08] <GameHard> The bold was an accident
[04:08] <alvaro> i get this:
[04:08] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$ apt-get install azureus
[04:08] <alvaro> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:08] <alvaro> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:08] <pashaw> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:08] <Toma-> !sudo
[04:08] <skon> alvaro: sudo in front
[04:08] <kqwhip> pashaw: it's a fresh install of kubuntu, and it worked the first time, but i doesnt work now. i have gnome installed aswell though, so switching to gdm shouln't be impossible
[04:08] <xiaogil> what's wrong in apache2 so that firefox tries to download php scripts ?
[04:08] <Malachai> skon, I get sound from other sources...I'm listening to the radio now....
[04:09] <intelikey> epix the only thing i was conserned about right now was you saving the data that you felt critical on the reiser partition    i was not really concerned about the way you approach the rebuild of your system.....  on that point you have options the best of which is probably blank the disk and start from scratch.
[04:09] <alvaro> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[04:09] <skon> Malachai: you can play wav files?
[04:09] <Malachai> Dunno.
[04:09] <Malachai> Let me find one.
[04:09] <pashaw> kqwhip,   you cant get to the login screen  to login to a diff desktop?
[04:09] <epix> intelikey: yeup. and is there a way to fully back the system up, or do i pick indiviual data files?
[04:09] <GameHard> ?
[04:10] <pashaw> GameHard,   is it saying ntfs busy?
[04:10] <intelikey> epix i'd pick the configs that you have customized and files in your /home/dir
[04:11] <intelikey> epix back those up and 'let the dead bury their dead'
[04:11] <kqwhip> pashaw: no, i dont get the login screen. when linux is loading, x starts and i get a graphical error window that kdmgreet (i think) crashed. when i click close, x closes, and linux stops loading
[04:11] <FarrisG> Does anyone know why vino-server eats up so much CPU?
[04:11] <Malachai> skon: Yes.
[04:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alvaro about azureus
[04:12] <hanakj_> Can anyone help a newbie here?  Trying hard to become a "not newbie"
[04:12] <kqwhip> pashaw: i figure if i can change login screen to gdm manually in some file (i'm on the live cd now), maybe i could make it work
[04:12] <BxL> is there any "google talk" for ubuntu?
[04:12] <Kyral> GAIM
[04:12] <nalioth> hanakj_: just ask your question
[04:12] <intelikey> epix main reason if you have data corruption and you backup the whole system you save the errors also.
[04:12] <Kyral> GAIM can connect
[04:12] <AndrewX> BxL: Google Talk uses Jabber I believe
[04:12] <hanakj_> Anybody how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Kyral> It does
[04:12] <Kyral> thats how
[04:12] <hanakj_>  when I click on floppy drive "given UDI not mountable volume"
[04:12] <BxL> oh
[04:12] <BxL> thanks.
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> AndrewX: yes
[04:12] <nalioth> BxL: use any jabber client, and follow the intstructions at gtalk.com (or w/e)
[04:12] <epix> intelikey: grr, it mounted, but there is only one dir, lost+found and it is full of stuff that I dont understand :P tons of files named by numbers
[04:12] <DonL> BxL: Funny you mention Google talk. Just trying it out
[04:13] <BxL> ;)
[04:14] <skon> Malachai: sorry, not quite sure how to fix....maybe try System:Preferences:Sound
[04:14] <DonL> This is the first time I've used IRC on gaim. Didn't know I could. Interesting
[04:14] <pashaw> kqwhip,   try  recovery mode    login and type   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <GameHard> pashaw: no, I click apply after telling it shrink, it flashes a window, then it goes back to the original partition sizes
[04:14] <Malachai> skon: If I do that, and disable the system bell, I get no beep.
[04:14] <pashaw> kqwhip,    use sudo
[04:14] <hanakj_> nalioth: how do I copy a file to a floppy in Ubuntu?  When I click on floppy drive I get "given UDI not mountable volume".
[04:15] <Malachai> skon: I want the beep, I just want it through the headphones =\
[04:15] <Malachai> skon: Thanks anyway.
[04:15] <psusi> hanakj, my guess is the floppy is corrupt/unformatted
[04:15] <pashaw> GameHard,   you can try using knoppix
[04:15] <hanakj_> nalioth: I will refomat in Ubuntu
[04:15] <alvaro> ubotu i messaged you
[04:15] <ubotu> alvaro: What?
[04:15] <mcjerry> kqwhip: did you figure out how to change default-display-manager?
[04:16] <kqwhip> pashaw: recovery mode? you mean booting from the hard drive? how do i get into recovery mode
[04:16] <skon> alvar: ubotu is a robot :-D
[04:16] <epix> alvaro: ubotu is a uBOTu
[04:16] <kqwhip> mcjerry: no, still googleing ;)
[04:16] <alvaro> lol what is that :P
[04:16] <intelikey> epix mmmm maybe ' for this in `ls -1` ;do if [ `file $this | grep -c text` = 1 ]  ;then mv $this $this.txt ;fi ;done '   and see how many text (possabally configuration) files there are.    but that is only if you must save....
[04:16] <GameHard> pashaw: no, I click apply after telling it shrink, it flashes a window, then it goes back to the original partition sizes
[04:16] <hanakj_> nalioth: I will refomat in Ubuntu with the thourough option
[04:16] <alvaro> well, i tried installing azureus
[04:16] <alvaro> and i get this:
[04:16] <skon> alvaro: it's so we can automatically tell kiddies how to use linux with certain commands....doesn't actually talk
[04:17] <pashaw> kqwhip,   ??? you did install this to the hard drive, right      grub menu  pick a recovery kernel
[04:17] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$ dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb
[04:17] <alvaro> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:17] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$
[04:17] <psusi> GameHard, you are doing this from the livecd right?
[04:17] <QMario> How do I make a VCD?
[04:17] <epix> intelikey: its not worth it man. Ill just remake em
[04:17] <mcjerry> kqwhip: nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager and see what is listed......
[04:18] <intelikey> epix i hate it for you but it looks like you just got a lesson in "never do this in linux"  how not to's  ;/
[04:18] <QMario> !vcd
[04:18] <ubotu> QMario: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:18] <QMario> !yes
[04:18] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, qmario?
[04:18] <epix> intelikey: the only complex one that took manual work was ndiswrapper... and im very good at setting that up now :P (gimme about 1:30min)
[04:18] <kqwhip> kqwhip, sorry if im very clueless, but how do i get into the grub menu? im didn't choose to install it, but maybe it comes with ubuntu/kubuntu by default?
[04:18] <QMario> !botsnack
[04:18] <ubotu> :)
[04:18] <xiaogil> where to change the mime type to add php in apache2 on ubuntu ?
[04:18] <epix> !poo
[04:18] <ubotu> epix: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:18] <intelikey> epix ok we can probably find it.
[04:18] <skon> alvaro: use sudo in front
[04:18] <epix> intelikey: its fine.
[04:19] <intelikey> do the command i posted above ^  and we'll grep for that file
[04:19] <psusi> kqwhip, turn on the computer.... grub gives a menu of choices and times out after 3 seconds, choosing the default
[04:19] <epix> intelikey: and, my homedirectory was backed up (well, the important things (like my quake3 paks))
[04:19] <kqwhip> /usr/bin/kdm
[04:19] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$ sudo dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb
[04:19] <alvaro> dpkg: error processing azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb (--install):
[04:19] <alvaro>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:19] <skon> How do I find a list of what ubotu can tell people?
[04:19] <kqwhip> mcjerry: looks like we're getting closer here :) it says "/usr/bin/kdm". now, do you think it's enough to change kdm to gdm?
[04:20] <mcjerry> kqwhip: if gdm is installed, change to gdm and restart x session
[04:20] <hanakj_> Refomat with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.
[04:20] <intelikey> epix siriously we can find that needle in that hay stack if you like.
[04:21] <DonL> Must run. Good night people
[04:21] <kqwhip> psusi: not on my computer. i've used ubuntu/kubuntu for six months, never seen it (i've used grub before though)
[04:21] <nalioth> alvaro: you need to be in the same directory
[04:21] <QMario> Intelikey, heh. :)
[04:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alvaro about cli
[04:21] <intelikey> QMario
[04:21] <QMario> Intelikey, huh?
[04:21] <psusi> kqwhip, it's there.... you just have to catch it
[04:21] <hanakj_> Refomat with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.  Am now using second floppy.
[04:21] <kqwhip> mcjerry: it's installed. i will try it out. thanks a million
[04:21] <epix> intelikey: [0: command not found. i prolly made a typo :P
[04:21] <kqwhip> psusi: ok, i'll look harder this time :) thank you
[04:22] <kqwhip> pashaw: thank you for the help :)
[04:22] <psusi> kqwhip, try pressing ESC repeatedly while booting up
[04:22] <intelikey> or i may have.  let me re post it for you.
[04:22] <kqwhip> psusi, i will
[04:22] <kqwhip> see you in 10 minutes
[04:22] <mcjerry> kqwhip: goodluck,
[04:23] <mahangu> mcjerry, custom search broken?
[04:23] <mahangu> (sorry was away)
[04:23] <pilgrim> Hi. If I do  "sudo /etc/init.d/hplip stop
[04:23] <pilgrim> " this will stop the hplip service. How do I make it so it doesn't even start at boot time?
[04:24] <hanakj_> Refomat 2nd floppy(ex2) with the thourough option was successful, still can't open it.
[04:24] <mcjerry> mahangu: open synaptic package manager and click custom button then you will see broken option in left window
[04:24] <intelikey> epix ' for this in `ls -1` ;do if [ "`file $this | grep -c text`" = "1" ]  ;then if grep -ie'ndiswarp' $this ;then mv $this ndis$this.txt ;fi ;fi ;done '
[04:24] <pilgrim> hanakj_, what error do you get?
[04:24] <mahangu> mcjerry, thanks
[04:24] <intelikey> brb
[04:24] <hanakj_> When I click on floppy drive I get "given UDI not mountable volume".
[04:25] <epix> intelikey: nope. im just going to rewrite it. thanks for your help anyway.
[04:25] <hanakj_> has happend with two floppies
[04:25] <pilgrim> hanakj_, I had some experience with that error (although it was for DVD) and I think it means media corrupt. I _think_.
[04:25] <psusi> hanakj_, you are running breezy?
[04:26] <hanakj_> running 5.10
[04:26] <pashaw> hanakj_,   type cat /etc/fstab    does your floopy line look like mine
[04:26] <pashaw> hanakj_, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:26] <pilgrim> hanakj_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[04:27] <lawrence> hi
[04:28] <hanakj_> pashaw:  it looks like yours
[04:28] <intelikey> bsoI
[04:28] <pashaw> hanakj_,  floppy  in use terminal an type    mount /dev/fd0  <thats a zero
[04:28] <intelikey> blue screen of INSTALL
[04:28] <psusi> hanakj_, open a console and try mount /media/floppy0
[04:29] <lawrence> can anyone help me with installing an usb wireless?
[04:29] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:29] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:29] <alvaro> i can't i nstall azureus :(
[04:29] <psusi> my gox 4x cd-rws are slow....
[04:29] <intelikey> there is a howto ^ there lawrence, if it doesnt help ask again.
[04:30] <pashaw> psusi,   pashaw!  my first was 2x
[04:30] <lawrence> I"m trying this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46432
[04:30] <jhenn> how do i record the sound on my computer?
[04:30] <hanakj_> pashaw:  that did it, how can I make this mounting happen automatically on bootup?
[04:30] <nalioth> alvaro: read the info ubotu sent you
[04:30] <alvaro> i read it
[04:30] <psusi> pashaw, I had an original 1x cd-r back in the day... I forgot how painfull it can be ;)
[04:30] <lawrence> it's made by microsoft
[04:30] <alvaro> but still the terminal ain't comprehending what i command
[04:31] <psusi> and I thikn this is going even slower because I'm trying to write to the disk in packet mode
[04:31] <pashaw> hanakj_,   good question  your fstab is working so your  shortcut isnt
[04:31] <epix> pashaw: heh, i have a 4x burner!
[04:31] <Ryan> i need help. i just installed ubuntu 5.10 in my compaq presario v2000 laptop w/ windows xp but after installing, the GUI dosn't load up. it says that X Server falied to load... what would i do? i just have the command line with no GUI. pls help. thanks
[04:31] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$ cd
[04:31] <alvaro> alvaro@alvaro:~$ sudo dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz2
[04:31] <alvaro> dpkg: error processing azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.PPC.tar.bz2 (--install):
[04:31] <alvaro>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:31] <alvaro> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:31] <xiaogil> how to manually remove the phpmyadmin package ?
[04:31] <pilgrim> How do I disable services?  (the System>Administration>Services method doesn't show everything, such as hdparm).
[04:32] <nalioth> alvaro: you have been sent all the info you need. hundreds of people before you have installed azureus using it
[04:32] <nalioth> alvaro: please heed the /topic and don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[04:32] <intelikey> pilgrim the ub way is with rc.<tabkey>
[04:32] <Ryan> i need help. i just installed ubuntu 5.10 in my compaq presario v2000 laptop w/ windows xp but after installing, the GUI dosn't load up. it says that X Server falied to load... what would i do? i just have the command line with no GUI. pls help. thanks
[04:32] <hanakj_> pashaw:  didnt understand that, ?
[04:33] <psusi> alvaro, that's because you do not have nor do you install a .tar.bz2, you should have and be trying to install a .deb
[04:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ryan about xcfg
[04:33] <intelikey> pilgrim it can be done in the gui under system i believe also
[04:33] <pilgrim> intelikey, first, waht is "ub" ?
[04:33] <nalioth> Ryan: run the command ubotu is telling you and choose the VESA driver
[04:33] <intelikey> abreavition for ubuntu
[04:33] <pashaw> hanakj_,   im not a pro at gnome and the shortcuts     im used to the CLI
[04:33] <alvaro> why do i have a 'tar.bz2' downloaded
[04:33] <kqwhip> mcjerry: just wanted to log back in and tell you that everything works fine now. thank you.
[04:34] <nalioth> alvaro: if you read the info ubotu sent you, you won't have any trouble
[04:34] <intelikey> ekkk misspelled that didn't i
[04:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alvaro about azureus
[04:34] <intelikey> brb
[04:34] <psusi> alvaro, because you didn't follow the directions
[04:34] <evil-doer> im trying the live cd on my new laptop here, its saying it cant start x because of no framebuffer?
[04:34] <hanakj_> pashaw:  thanks for the help,  appreciate your time & effort.  Take care.
[04:34] <jhenn> how do i record the output of my computer?
[04:34] <maskd> jhenn: what output?
[04:34] <Gersitar> need help trying to setup microsoft wireless usb
[04:34] <jhenn> maskd: the output of the cd player
[04:34] <epix> Windows formats slow.
[04:35] <jhenn> maskd: don't ask why, but i just want to record the output
[04:35] <jhenn> maskd: into wav
[04:35] <emptystapler> I have my current installation mounted on an IDE drive, hda4 and hda5 (swap). i would like to transfer my entire system to a new drive, an SATA (/dev/sda). if i make a partition setup on sda which matches hda (one partition for / and one for swap), what do i need to do besides copying it and adding a grub entry to point to sda1?
[04:35] <psusi> epix, if you tell it to... choose quick format
[04:35] <pashaw> evil-doer,   when it first boots   hit F2 F3 F4  and find the option to use framebuffer
[04:35] <Wilf> !synaptic
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:35] <Fran_Mnt> hi
[04:36] <Fran_Mnt> i'm from spain, and i don't write a good english sorry, so, i try.
[04:36] <evil-doer> i did expert install, i chose framebuffer
[04:36] <pashaw> evil-doer,   you said liveCD     which is it
[04:36] <evil-doer> expert boot, whatever it is
[04:36] <evil-doer> expert options
[04:36] <nalioth> !es
[04:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:36] <evil-doer> i dont remember what it was called
[04:36] <psusi> emptystapler, copy all files with either tar or cp -a, and install grub on the new drive... do this from a livecd or rescue mode
[04:36] <Fran_Mnt> gracias for ubuntu-es
[04:36] <Fran_Mnt> :)
[04:36] <evil-doer> boot-expert maybe
[04:37] <pashaw> evil-doer,   follow what i said above youll find the freamebuffer option youll have to boot with
[04:37] <emptystapler> psusi: will grubbing from the already bootable IDE not work?
[04:37] <evil-doer> ill look.
[04:38] <psusi> emptystapler, without any changes it will continue to boot the system on the old drive... it isn't going to use the new one by magic
[04:38] <Ryan> how do i reconfigure the x server so i can see the GUI?
[04:38] <Unity> how can i make an iso from a cdrom? cat /dev/hda gives an input/output error
[04:38] <psusi> emptystapler, do you want to remove the old drive, or just boot from the new one and use the old one for space?
[04:38] <emptystapler> psusi: i know... i mean, if i were to add an entry in grub to boot sda
[04:38] <nalioth> Ryan: i told you how
[04:38] <nalioth> Ryan: run the command ubotu is telling you and choose the VESA driver
[04:38] <pashaw> evil-doer,    if this laptop is older than 3yrs  use  acpi=off and noapic   also
[04:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ryan about xcfg
[04:39] <psusi> Unity, use dd
[04:39] <emptystapler> psusi: I am going to keep the old drive (it is primarily used for WIndows, with the linux install at the tail end, which i will reclaim once the transfer is complete)
[04:39] <jhenn> how do i record the output of my computer?
[04:39] <Fran_Mnt> I install ubuntu-server, when is full installed and I'm in the prompt I don't have eth0 active, I always have to do it manually. How I can do this automatic in the boot of the system? -- Sorry my bad english.
[04:39] <evil-doer> its brand new
[04:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jhenn about repeat
[04:39] <pashaw> evil-doer,    then  you dont wont need them
[04:39] <crouton> Fran_Mnt: Install dhclient?
[04:39] <evil-doer> dammit, i cant even reboot it
[04:39] <Unity> psusi, `dd /dev/hda > cd.iso` ?
[04:40] <evil-doer> power button is doing nothing and of course theres no reset button
[04:40] <psusi> emptystapler, well in that case you will need to reinstall grub on the new drive... otherwise it will die when you blow away the linux partitions and reclaim it for windows
[04:40] <Fran_Mnt> ok, i go to try it thanks :)
[04:40] <pashaw> evil-doer,    since its liveCD   jusrt hold power button down for 6 secs
[04:40] <crouton> unity: dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/cd.iso ?
[04:40] <psusi> Unity, you should man dd for a while... but: dd if=/dev/hda of=cd.iso should do it
[04:40] <evil-doer> oh i didnt know about holding the button down, thanks
[04:40] <emptystapler> psusi: gotcha. i will do the copy and see if i can't get grub kicking on the new drive
[04:40] <crouton> score!
[04:40] <Unity> crouten and psusi: thx
[04:41] <evil-doer> sorry, first laptop..
[04:41] <thoeger> Hi - got a totally different question... Gdesklets kill X. Any idea what to do about it? I like them...
[04:41] <psusi> evil-doer, that applies to all PCs...
[04:41] <psusi> evil-doer, not just laptops
[04:41] <cristophine> hey guys, is there any way to remove applications like evolution without having to uninstall the desktop?
[04:41] <sally_> using cfdisk I spliced off a small section of my swap partition (dont ask why - just an experiment) and that made my root partition change from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda7  I updated menu.lst and /etc/fstab to reflect this, ran update-grub but when I boot I get grub error 17.  I am currently in the system via rescue disk, but how I do I restore my boot loader
[04:42] <psusi> cristophine, removing ubuntu-desktop won't actually remove anything... that package doesn't contain anything itself, it just depends on the others to provide a convienient way to install them all
[04:42] <Unity> crouten psusi: dd gave an input/output error reading /dev/hda. waybe the cd is messed up?
[04:42] <cristophine> ic, thx psusi :)
[04:42] <Ryan> sorry nalioth. after typing  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", do i need to do something else? i dont know anything about programming. thanks again
[04:42] <thoeger> christophine: the desktop-package is a convenience package, og meta-package. It's safe to remove AFAIK. Never gave me any trouble anyway
[04:42] <thoeger> Oops too late
[04:43] <evil-doer> so.. i see how to disable framebuffer, do i want to do that?
[04:43] <psusi> sally_, reinstall grub
[04:43] <thoeger> But again: Any ideas out there why gdesklets kill Xorg?
[04:43] <psusi> Unity, looks like it
[04:43] <franky123> Ryan: are you trying to use a new monitor, because i just remember using dpkg reconfig for that
[04:43] <franky123> Ryan: just out of curiosity
[04:43] <pashaw> evil-doer,   if you didnt last time   then try it   per your error
[04:43] <psusi> Unity, I mean... it worked part way through right?
[04:44] <Unity> psusi, nope, it ran for  0.000517 seconds
[04:44] <sally_> psusi, update-grub doesn't do that?
[04:44] <psusi> Unity, ohh... hrm...
[04:44] <pashaw> thoeger,  you using any of the fancy probes ones   or just standard disk/network ones
[04:44] <psusi> sally_, no... that just updates your menu.lst to present choices to boot into the kernels it finds
[04:44] <Ryan> franky123: im not using it for a new monitor... i just installed ubuntu in my laptop w/ windows xp but the X server fails to load so i do not have a gui...
[04:44] <Unity> psusi, maybe its the drive cause its not ejecting
[04:44] <psusi> Unity, ohh... hrm....
[04:45] <thoeger> 'I was using some battery/disk/memory monitors
[04:45] <pashaw> thoeger,   maybe its one of them    i only use the simple ones   so just guessing
[04:45] <alvaro> lol i still can't install this thing
[04:45] <thoeger> Hm...
[04:46] <Unity> psusi, i'm gonna copy the contents into a folder and iso the folder, would that work?
[04:46] <emptystapler> psusi: i am getting some errors copying some crap in /proc
[04:46] <alvaro> i installed those 'java' programs as it says, the only one i couldn't install was j2re1.4
[04:46] <thoeger> pashaw, Maybe I should just remove my .gdesklets dir?
[04:46] <emptystapler> psusi: also, some recusive issues (i.e., the copy trying to copy stuff it just copied as it recurses into the mount's directory itself)
[04:46] <psusi> Unity, well, it will "work" in that if you are able to copy all the files off, it will build a new iso image with those files in it
[04:46] <pashaw> thoeger,   as a last ditch sure    but be nice to find which one it is huh?   :P
[04:46] <alvaro> it still says it can't find package, and the damn package is in the home directory
[04:47] <psusi> emptystapler, ohh, you need to not copy other filesystems
[04:47] <Sr-Petah> hi all
[04:47] <emptystapler> psusi: d'oh
[04:47] <emptystapler> -x?
[04:47] <psusi> emptystapler, use cp -ax
[04:48] <pilgrim> So noone know this... how to disable services using non-gui interface (because it doesn't show all services)?
[04:48] <thoeger> pashaw; Too late... don't wanna go through 5 restarts of Xorg, so I wiped it. Fun thing is; it worked without trouble for a while...
[04:48] <Sr-Petah> i need support with my nvidia and my breezy
[04:48] <pashaw> thoeger,   lol
[04:48] <Sr-Petah> can't run 3d accel.
[04:48] <Sr-Petah> i install the lastest nvidia drivers
[04:48] <pashaw> !tell Sr-Petah about nvidia
[04:48] <thoeger> pashaw; if I suddenly leave the channel now you'll know why...
[04:49] <pashaw> thoeger,   ill call 911
[04:49] <Sr-Petah> tnx!
[04:49] <Unity> psusi, not working =( thx though and ttyl
[04:49] <Sr-Petah> now i read
[04:49] <emptystapler> psusi: and no linux/gnome configurations will be expecting /dev/hda4 or 5 to exist?
[04:49] <Sr-Petah> ;)
[04:49] <GTroy> does ubuntu have support for centrino?
[04:49] <Sr-Petah> see u pipol!
[04:50] <psusi> emptystapler, only place that should is /etc/fstab
[04:50] <Random_Sindrom> 78ty6y75gfdfdgfsf
[04:50] <binarydigit> GTroy: do you mean in terms of running wireless and speedstep and everything
[04:50] <Random_Sindrom> yyyyyyyyy
[04:50] <GTroy> yeah
[04:50] <binarydigit> yes it does
[04:50] <Random_Sindrom> hahaha
[04:50] <Random_Sindrom> kkkkkk
[04:52] <pashaw> intelikey,    hes mentioned in bugzilla under troll
[04:52] <intelikey> :)
[04:52] <evil-doer> red background this time, interesting
[04:52] <intelikey> root
[04:53] <pashaw> evil-doer,    did it work?
[04:53] <evil-doer> nope
[04:53] <evil-doer> failed again
[04:53] <pashaw> evil-doer,    same error?
[04:53] <evil-doer> looking
[04:54] <alvaro> is there one of these wikis for installing realplayer?
[04:54] <evil-doer> er, signal 11, server aborting
[04:54] <emptystapler> how can I tell if copy is still copying? it claims it is, but the disk space of my destination isn't decreasing
[04:54] <pashaw> !tell alvaro about realplayer
[04:55] <Net_Holer> server novis.ptnet.org
[04:56] <aeon17x> whoa, that's a big netsplit
[04:56] <aeon17x> if that's what I think it is
[04:56] <pashaw> aeon17x,   thats a small one
[04:56] <skon> either that or maybe people switched to BSD all of a sudden
[04:56] <aeon17x> oh snap
[04:57] <emptystapler> psusi: i think my copy operation hung
[04:57] <pashaw> wow   they normally come back by now
[04:58] <alvaro> is there a wiki for installing Runtime environment java thingy?
[04:58] <pashaw> emptystapler,   what are you copying?
[04:58] <psusi> emptystapler, why do you think that?
[04:58] <emptystapler> pashaw: i am copying a partition to another
[04:58] <pashaw> hmm  havent seen a thingy
[04:58] <pashaw> emptystapler,   large files will appear hung
[04:58] <emptystapler> psusi: well, disk space of the destination is not decreasing whatsoever, and the process is using no cpu time
[04:58] <TokenBad> I know going to get tired of this question..but what is command to handle bz2 files?
[04:58] <pashaw> emptystapler,   large file copies will do that
[04:59] <psusi> emptystapler, well, it shouldn't be using any cpu time just to copy files... you are watching df in another window?
[04:59] <emptystapler> pashaw: the partition is only 2gb, i can't imagine what file would be that large in a near stock ubuntu install
[04:59] <emptystapler> psusi: i am df'ing in another term
[04:59] <pl_ice> hey, need a hand just killed my file /etc/rc (don't ask ...) whan can i do? ...
[04:59] <psusi> emptystapler, hrm.... odd... any errors in dmesg?
[04:59] <aeon17x> emptystapler: maybe DMA isn't enabled on  that drive?
[04:59] <evil-doer> think ill see if mandriva works
[05:00] <pashaw> TokenBad,   no you wont     use   man tar    its all in there -j
[05:00] <emptystapler> DMA is enabled on the IDE drive (source), and the destination is an SATA which i have not done anything except plug in
[05:00] <psusi> well, are you sure it isn't just slow?  you saw it progressing, and then it stopped?
[05:00] <pashaw> evil-doer,   try knoppix also  if you want a liveCD
[05:00] <emptystapler> i see nothing strange in dmesg
[05:00] <evil-doer> is there a mandriva live cd?
[05:01] <pashaw> evil-doer,   not a clue
[05:01] <psusi> hrm... that is weird....
[05:01] <intelikey> evil yes
[05:01] <emptystapler> psusi: hopefully it's slow. i didn't think to check progression until i mentioned it seeming to have hung
[05:01] <evil-doer> their site makes it very difficult to find
[05:01] <intelikey> evil-doer i recomend the knoppix live cd.
[05:01] <psusi> emptystapler, you did reformat, and start over using the -x option right?
[05:01] <emptystapler> but i was noticing a performance degradation when it first started
[05:01] <evil-doer> oh its called "move"
[05:02] <emptystapler> and now everything is just.... normal
[05:02] <intelikey> yes move = live
[05:02] <emptystapler> psusi: i rm -rf'd the partition before starting over with -ax
[05:02] <psusi> hrm.... can you see what file cp is hung on?
[05:02] <emptystapler> i don't have verbose output on
[05:02] <emptystapler> maybe i should have done that
[05:02] <emptystapler> the last output was: cp: reading `proc/sysrq-trigger': Invalid argument
[05:02] <pl_ice> can someone pls check/give to pastebin file /etc/rc (file) if it exists... pls
[05:03] <emptystapler> i will cancel, format, and start over with verbose output enabled
[05:03] <pl_ice> pls
[05:03] <psusi> emptystapler, if you usex -x it should NOT be trying to copy anything in /proc
[05:03] <psusi> copying things in /proc would tend to screw the pooch
[05:03] <emptystapler> sudo cp -ax * /media/new
[05:03] <emptystapler> was the command
[05:04] <emptystapler> from /
[05:04] <psusi> emptystapler, don't use *, use /
[05:04] <psusi> emptystapler, when you use * you specifically include /proc... / means start there, and pick up all children NOT on another filesystem ( like proc ) when you use the -x option
[05:04] <Mr-Petah> re
[05:04] <emptystapler> Ahh!
[05:04] <intelikey> recursive into subdir is not desireable
[05:05] <Mr-Petah> i read the how to...
[05:05] <Mr-Petah> for nvidia driver acce.
[05:05] <pl_ice> can someone pls check/give to pastebin file /etc/rc (file) if it exists... pls
[05:05] <emptystapler> psusi: running again with / as the source, did -v too for kicks
[05:05] <Mr-Petah> but...
[05:05] <intelikey> you end up cp'ing what you just cp'd
[05:05] <Mr-Petah> dont work correctly
[05:05] <pashaw> pl_ice,   easy big fella im slow    here>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6360
[05:05] <jhenn> does anyone know how to record sound from the cd player?
[05:05] <Mr-Petah> (sry 4 my english)
[05:05] <psusi> emptystapler, after emptying the destination again right?
[05:05] <pashaw> pl_ice,   thats rc2.d
[05:05] <emptystapler> psusi: correct
[05:06] <emptystapler> psusi: this seems much more promising!
[05:06] <Mr-Petah> i have some problems with #ubuntu-es, but need support in spanish....
[05:06] <intelikey> jhenn sound-juicer
[05:06] <pl_ice> pashaw thnx, tried to put linux onto ipod, but i over wrote my main file intead in ipods os :)
[05:06] <Mr-Petah> any people speak spanish?
[05:06] <jhenn> intelikey: no like record from the output of cd player directly to wave
[05:06] <emptystapler> what bittorrent client do you guys/girls recommend?
[05:06] <cafuego> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:07] <Mr-Petah> emptystapler, rufus
[05:07] <intelikey> yes
[05:07] <Skiingsean> how would I configure vnc to use the same kde session that is loaded on startup by default? in otherwords i don't want to create a new X session
[05:07] <psusi> emptystapler, I have also used a tar pipeline for things like that... tar the source piped to an untar to the destination... that way you can do things like --exclude specific paths
[05:07] <emptystapler> and i should mention, i dislike azeureus
[05:07] <Epsilon> Hello
[05:07] <psusi> emptystapler, bit tornado
[05:07] <Mr-Petah> cafuego, i have some problems with the op manager
[05:07] <emptystapler> psusi: neat
[05:07] <intelikey> jhenn also audacity
[05:07] <pl_ice> pashaw thnx, all is cool :)
[05:07] <intelikey> maybe even vlc
[05:07] <jhenn> intelikey: audacity is giving me errors
[05:07] <pashaw> pl_ice,  cool
[05:08] <emptystapler> psusi: that sounds like it'd be useful for a simple backup script
[05:08] <Epsilon> Can someone help me?
[05:08] <emptystapler> are there any torrent clients out there that support dbus?
[05:08] <Mr-Petah> bye ..
[05:08] <intelikey> cdripper
[05:08] <Wilf> Epsilon, slection here. Don't ask to ask, just ask your questions. someone may not answer straight away, just ask until they do.
[05:09] <pashaw> Epsilon,  i cant mind im a horrible mind reader
[05:09] <jhenn> intelikey: i don't wan to rip i want record the actual sound of the cd playing
[05:09] <Wilf> err, just wait until theyt do.
[05:09] <Wilf> sorry :<
[05:09] <pashaw> Epsilon,   ask your question  :P
[05:09] <Epsilon> ok
[05:09] <psusi> emptystapler, indeed... I have a server at work set up to run tar as a cronjob for backups to a second hard drive...
[05:09] <intelikey> jhenn record
[05:09] <nalioth> Epsilon: without you asking a question, no we cannot
[05:09] <emptystapler> the only thing from kde i miss is dcop :-/
[05:09] <cafuego> jhenn: Why?
[05:09] <intelikey> one of the sox tools
[05:09] <jhenn> cafuego: why not?
[05:10] <intelikey> jhenn record
[05:10] <cafuego> jhenn: Loss of quality versus ripping.
[05:10] <emptystapler> copy complete! let me make sure everything is kosher in fstab....
[05:10] <Epsilon> When I connected my mp3 player, It says i have no music, but I do, and the "media" folder is there as it was on Windows XP,  how to I add music now?
[05:10] <pashaw> psusi,   ahh i use http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[05:10] <psusi> emptystapler, tar's new incremental snapshot feature is very nice... you can do nifty multi tiered backups with it... like a full monthly, then a weekly, and daily... to restore, you just need the last monthly, weekly, and daily... not every daily since the last full
[05:10] <jhenn> cafuego: im comparing audio qualities if you must know
[05:11] <emptystapler> psusi: that is very neat
[05:11] <TokenBad> hmm..how come everytime I try to load a theme..it tells me invalid format
[05:11] <pashaw> Epsilon,    what mp3 player?
[05:11] <intelikey> cafuego rather than explain why "NOT" to do it that way, how would you go about recording audio from say a tape output inputed into line 1 ?
[05:11] <eobanb> uhm did we just merge from a split or something
[05:11] <Epsilon> SanDisc
[05:11] <emptystapler> psusi: okay, i fixed up fstab
[05:11] <pashaw> yeah split that happened  10mins ago
[05:12] <psusi> pashaw, use an lvm snapshot then rsync the snapshot device you mean?
[05:12] <Gersitar> lawrence@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[05:12] <Gersitar> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[05:12] <Gersitar>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[05:12] <emptystapler> psusi: what should i do as far as UNinstalling grub from the old drive?
[05:12] <psusi> pashaw, or just periodically rsync all files?
[05:12] <pashaw> psusi,   no  rsync  then snapshot rotating script   with  tape backups also  of course
[05:13] <psusi> emptystapler, you don't need to... blow away the linux partitions ( this will clobber most of grub ) and reinstall grub on the new drive, which should fix the MBR on the first drive to load the rest of grub from the second
[05:13] <pashaw> psusi,   everynight    80G off various servers gets rsync to a 160G drive
[05:13] <emptystapler> psusi: okay. i want to keep the old drive's partitions intact until i have confidence in the new one
[05:13] <pashaw> psusi,   read the link i posted its  pretty powerful
[05:13] <emptystapler> psusi: so i'll give it a shot
[05:14] <emptystapler> brb! (i hope!)
[05:15] <pashaw> Epsilon,   sounds like your just doing a usb mount       could you just copy mp3s over using windows  or did you need extra software
[05:16] <psusi> pashaw, ohh, you mean just that stuff where you rsync to to a dated directory ( one for each daily backup ) only each new day, it hard links the unchanged files to yesterday's dir?
[05:16] <teprrr> hmm, btw, does exa in xorg 7.0 make it possible to use radeon with composite?
[05:16] <pashaw> psusi,   never 2 copies of the same thing   but they can extend back for weeks
[05:16] <psusi> pashaw, so it looks like you have a seperate directory for each daily backup, but it only needs as much space as it takes to store the changed files?
[05:16] <Nothingman> anyone here know how to bypass a SCSI card so I can boot from CD (but still use the SCSI drives)?
[05:16] <pashaw> psusi,   sorry i ment never 2 copies of the same file  just uses links
[05:17] <Epsilon> Ok, Mp3 player is all good
[05:17] <Epsilon> thanks ne ways
[05:17] <psusi> pashaw, yea... I've read about that... still not sure what to think of it... not sure I really see the point
[05:17] <Epsilon> Peace
[05:17] <pashaw> psusi,   try it sometime  its  neat
[05:17] <psusi> why is that any better than a daily backup with tar? especially since that can go on a tape or something, rsync can't?
[05:17] <psusi> it's a neat idea in theory.. I just don't really see the practical application?
[05:17] <mrgoby> hi all, having problems burning cds
[05:18] <mrgoby> using breezy
[05:18] <mrgoby> and gnomebaker
[05:18] <mrgoby> i think it might be a permissions problem
[05:18] <intelikey> Nothingman in the bios set it to boot cd first
[05:18] <mrgoby> the disk gets written filenames and directory names, but none of the data is written , so the cd just has names on it with no data in the files
[05:19] <Nothingman> intelikey, it is
[05:19] <mrgoby> cdrecord output complains of not having perms i think
[05:19] <mrgoby> but i am in cdrom group
[05:19] <psusi> pashaw, unless... I guess it would be nice because you could easily browse through the history of the filesystem and pull out something from several days back... easier than pulling the file from a tar
[05:19] <pashaw> psusi,  ok  say backup is 2G tar file      3 backups need 6G total space right?   with  snapshot    if no files changed  its still 2G for all 3 days
[05:19] <Nothingman> intelikey: the SCSI card is separate, not even mentioned in the bios, just takes over boot on its own
[05:19] <mrgoby> is there any wierdness in ubuntu's permissions for these things, i am new to sudo environments
[05:19] <pashaw> psusi,   its the space saving that makes it neat
[05:20] <psusi> pashaw, if you are using daily backups, they will be much smaller
[05:20] <intelikey> Nothingman the card bios needs disabled    may ^A  for access
[05:20] <psusi> pashaw, in fact, they will use less space than rsync because the tar is compressed
[05:20] <Nothingman> just Ctrl+A?
[05:21] <psusi> pashaw, most of the daily tars on my server are only ~100 kb
[05:21] <intelikey> after the normal bios scans are over Nothingman press ctrl+A  and see if you can get into the scsi card bios
[05:21] <mrgoby> i get this when i try to read the disk
[05:21] <mrgoby> Dec 29 23:21:19 localhost kernel: [4572978.890000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[05:21] <mrgoby> Dec 29 23:21:19 localhost kernel: [4572978.890000]  hdd: rw=0, want=4976, limit=1208
[05:22] <pashaw> psusi,  well heck use floppies then  if its that small  :P      this is for large file backups  huge space saving   tar cant touch it
[05:22] <psusi> pashaw, that's what I'm saying... if you tar properly, it will save more space than rsync
[05:22] <intelikey> Nothingman ^A is only a guess based on the scsi card i have
[05:22] <PeteyPablo> pashaw, what is?
[05:22] <psusi> pashaw, daily tars don't save any unchanged files either... and the files that did change get compressed... rsync doesn't compress
[05:23] <pashaw> psusi,   if 1 of your files/tapes get lost you can lose that entire set
[05:24] <Corrupter> ok, this is kind of a wierd question, i just got a set of Logitech 5.1 speakers, but for some reason, i only hear sound out of the 2 front speakers, does anyone know why?
[05:24] <psusi> pashaw, well... yea... but you loose everything the rsync way if the hard drive dies too ;)
[05:24] <mrgoby> using alsa Corrupter ?
[05:24] <mrgoby> alsamixer has levels up for all outs ?
[05:24] <pashaw> psusi, can i pm you    we are a bit off topic
[05:25] <psusi> pashaw, and with tar, you can make the daily backups contain all changed files since the last full, rather than just since yesterday... that way if the backup from 3 days ago is bad, who cares?  you only need last night's
[05:25] <psusi> sure
[05:25] <nalioth> pashaw: if y'all join #ubuntu-offtopic more folks can lurk and learn
[05:25] <Corrupter> mrgoby: as far as i know, i know that i have a Creative Soundblaster 24 bit card, it auto-installed it when i started up my system
[05:25] <fatehaze> um, how can I define the root password on a fresh install?
[05:25] <cafuego> psusi: But what id last night's is corrupted?
[05:25] <PeteyPablo> fatehaze, you don't use sudo
[05:25] <mrgoby> popopen a terminal and type alsamixer
[05:25] <PeteyPablo> !teel fatehaze about rootsudo
[05:25] <ubotu> PeteyPablo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:25] <PeteyPablo> !tell fatehaze about rootsudo
[05:26] <pashaw> nalioth,    thx   will do
[05:26] <nalioth> !tell fatehaze about root
[05:26] <fatehaze> it says it can't look up ubuntu via hostname, assumedly because my wifi isn't working correctly
[05:26] <epix> what the heck. linux autodetects everything. im so used to that. i boot windows and its ugly and has no sound!
[05:26] <Corrupter> any idea's?
[05:26] <mrgoby> you might have to unmute the other channels manually
[05:26] <epix> :P
[05:26] <Corrupter> mrgoby i have every channel unmuted
[05:26] <nalioth> fatehaze: that is not a wireless problem
[05:27] <emptystapler> psusi: errmm... well, i couldn't figure out rescue mode
[05:27] <nalioth> fatehaze: you'll need to get something to write with
[05:27] <emptystapler> psusi: i booted the install cd with "rescue", and it just dumped me into a prompt at the partition of my choosing
[05:27] <fatehaze> i've got notepad
[05:27] <mrgoby> sometimes you have to do it manually , alternatively , you might have to have the right options passed to the module in modules.conf to ensure it enables the channels in the module, but i'm not sure
[05:27] <emptystapler> psusi: i have some kubuntu dapper livecds which have a rescue mode, but when i select them it complains about a missing linux64 kernel
[05:27] <nalioth> fatehaze: off the puter, preferably
[05:27] <fatehaze> i have a second computer
[05:28] <fatehaze> i'm installing ubuntu on my laptop, and i need to figure out how to add widescreen resolutions
[05:28] <fatehaze> which i assume i can do in my x11 config file?
[05:29] <emptystapler> does anybody know how to reinstall grub using the rescue mode of an install cd?
[05:29] <nalioth> fatehaze: to solve your hostname problem, reboot the stricken machine and choose 'rescue' at the grub menu
[05:30] <nalioth> fatehaze: open /etc/hosts for editing and make sure on teh same line as 127.0.0.1 is 'ubuntu' with no quotes
[05:30] <fatehaze> k
[05:30] <nalioth> fatehaze: save it and restart the box.
[05:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell emptystapler about recover
[05:30] <intelikey> mount the system root on /target and so a sudo chroot /target grub-install /dev/hda emptystapler
[05:30] <Mapionetka> evenin all. is there a page anywhere that will give me a rundown of whats involved with the server distro?
[05:31] <fatehaze> to get my wifi working, will i need to download the ndiswrapper?
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mapionetka about server
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fatehaze about wireless
[05:31] <eobanb> fatehaze, how are we supposed to answer that if we don't know what type of card you have
[05:32] <Mapionetka> yes, please edumacate me :P
[05:32] <emptystapler> i'll grab my laptop and give it a try. thanks!
[05:32] <fatehaze> sorry, i don't really know myself
[05:32] <fatehaze> it's an acer aspire notebook
[05:32] <eobanb> is it internal, or pcmcia?
[05:32] <epix> Linux is offically easier to install than windows.
[05:32] <Mapionetka> google the model number maybe fatehaze?
[05:33] <cafuego> fatehaze: Run 'lspci' and see what chip it reckons it is.
[05:33] <intelikey> it's official now eh
[05:33] <nalioth> Mapionetka: look to your private messages and let fatehaze read his
[05:33] <cafuego> fatehaze: Note, do not paste the full output here.
[05:33] <Mapionetka> nice bot nalioth :)
[05:33] <nalioth> Mapionetka: we like 'im
[05:34] <fatehaze> k, just a sec
[05:34] <cafuego> !goo'boy
[05:34] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[05:34] <Mapionetka> lol
[05:34] <intelikey> i'm in the process of installing the live cd from the running live cd onto a hdd,  and just cause i can....
[05:34] <fatehaze> recovery mode didn't seem to fix my unkown host problem, can i edit the hosts file without root?
[05:34] <fatehaze> it's just a blank file
[05:34] <Mapionetka> i should get back into finishing my bot. it was leet, had its own scripting language and all :P
[05:34] <fatehaze> should i add "127.0.0.1   ubuntu" to it?
[05:34] <nalioth> fatehaze: you cannot
[05:35] <fatehaze> quite the quandary, in that case
[05:35] <nalioth> fatehaze: it should have 127.0.0.1 in it already
[05:35] <cafuego> Mind you, when the dns lookup fails, sudo still runs fine
[05:35] <MayorMcCheese> Can anyone help me with installing Skype on 5.10?
[05:35] <fatehaze> it's blank but i assume that's because i'm not opening it as root
[05:35] <nalioth> fatehaze: are you sure you're opening /etc/hosts    ?
[05:35] <MayorMcCheese> I've read the wiki, the 2 senarios there don't work for me.
[05:35] <fatehaze> i do "pico /etc/hosts"
[05:35] <epix> ubotu: tell MayorMcCheese about skype
[05:36] <fatehaze> i added it in but i can't save it because i'm not root
[05:36] <Mapionetka> ubotu: tell Mapionetka about where babys come from
[05:36] <nalioth> fatehaze: if it IS empty, put the IP and the name in there (along with 'localhost'  and 'localhost.localdomain')
[05:37] <fatehaze> but i can't get root without editing it
[05:37] <nalioth> fatehaze: use the recovery option from the grub prompt
[05:37] <MayorMcCheese> My problem is I can't get libqt3-mt
 i dunno what is 'where babys come from'.
[05:37] <Mapionetka> awww
[05:37] <MayorMcCheese> it doesn't exist
[05:37] <Mapionetka> :P
[05:37] <fatehaze> what should i do at the command prompt after the recovery mode finishes loading?
[05:37] <MayorMcCheese> I even downloaded someone's edited version of the deb and it installs...but when I click on Skype nothing happens
[05:37] <MayorMcCheese> just a thunk sound
[05:37] <nalioth> fatehaze: you should be able to run 'pico /etc/hosts'
[05:37] <rottenapl> okay. sitting next to me is a rescue prompt with my new target drive mounted at / (sda1) which i would like to install grub on (it's currently on my old drive, hda4)
[05:37] <binarydigit> try running it in a terminal and see if any error messages spit out
[05:37] <fatehaze> ah, ok
[05:37] <fatehaze> brb
[05:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MayorMcCheese about skype
[05:38] <riprhoads> Can someone help me with some inital install problems on an Averatec C3500?
[05:38] <rottenapl> ./dev/sda doesn't exist, so i can't grub-install to it as per the webpage directions
[05:38] <nalioth> riprhoads: if you ask a question
[05:38] <riprhoads> My main problem is the screen is shifted down and wraps around so that the bottom is on the top
[05:39] <MayorMcCheese> yeah it says E: Couldn't find package libqt3-mt
[05:39] <MrNoOne> I need help.. Been a while since I used Ubuntu and now can not login at via the GUI screeen
[05:39] <intelikey> rottenapl hda ?
[05:39] <riprhoads> plus it's not booting into the gui, just text
[05:39] <zer0trip> hello everyone
[05:39] <zer0trip> Im new to the ubuntu community
[05:39] <MayorMcCheese> Tha link you 2 sent me is great, but like I said the wiki allowes me to install but not run skype.  The second link in the ubotu doesn't work.  Bandwidth exceeded.
[05:40] <zer0trip> but Im really loving it so far
[05:40] <intelikey> welcome zer0trip
[05:40] <zer0trip> thank you
[05:40] <barosl> any music player supports tree view for windows (like http://barosl.com/pub/desktop/barosl-desktop-1135916441.jpg )
[05:40] <rottenapl> intelikey: i have an old drive with my install on it, an IDE mounted as /dev/hda4. this has grub on it, and works. i am transferring this partition to a new sata drive, /dev/sda1
[05:41] <riprhoads> anyone know what could cause that or how I could fix it?
[05:41] <rottenapl> i already did the copy, and just need to migrate grub to the new partition
[05:41] <rottenapl> i am sitting at a rescue prompt (/dev/sda1) wondering what to do
[05:41] <jhenn> how do i change my login manager to gdm?
[05:41] <metrix> I'm using warty warthog cd, and I would like to download the breezy cd and burn it to disc. is there burning software on warty live cd?
[05:41] <intelikey> rottenapl install-grub /dev/sda
[05:41] <calamari> hi
[05:41] <cyphase> how can i have a secondary computer with only an ethernet card connect to my main computer to use it's wireless connection?
[05:41] <fatehaze> yay, su works now
[05:41] <rottenapl> intelikey: it says that /dev/sda is not a device
[05:42] <MrNoOne> when loggin in via GUI is username for root account "root"
[05:42] <sethk> rottenapl, run the grub shell and reinstall grub from there.
[05:42] <jhenn> cyphase: its hard
[05:42] <rottenapl> sethk: how?
[05:42] <MayorMcCheese> Has anyone else ahd the problem with skype installing but not running?
[05:42] <calamari> anyhow know where I can get the e2fsprogs development package?  it doesn't seem to be in the main/universe/multiverse repositories
[05:42] <nalioth> jhenn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:42] <jhenn> cyphase: really hard
[05:42] <fatehaze> so i ran lspci, which device is my wifi?  network controller?
[05:42] <intelikey> rottenapl ls -l /dev/sda*
[05:42] <cyphase> lol
[05:42] <sethk> rottenapl, if sda is not a device from the command line, it won't be a device from the grub shell either, but...
[05:42] <cyphase> jhenn, i'm willing to try it for curiosity's sake
[05:42] <sethk> rottenapl, you just run grub and wait for the grub prompt, and enter commands
[05:42] <cyphase> know where i can find a tutorial?
[05:42] <cyphase> or some kind of reference
[05:42] <sethk> rottenapl, you've copied your /boot and /boot/grub directories also?
[05:42] <rottenapl> well, i am currently IN /dev/sda1
[05:43] <spanglesontoast> erm how do you get a terminal button on the desktop when you right click?
[05:43] <rottenapl> sethk: correct, it was a full copy with -ax
[05:43] <fatehaze> if the network controller is indeed my wifi, then i'm getting "Broadcom Corporation: Unkown device 4318 (rev 02)"
[05:43] <rottenapl> sethk: i edited fstab on it to be correct relative to the new drive
[05:43] <slew> hi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting up? it finds and fails a sensor, id like to remove the line.
[05:43] <skon> If I'm running and I set the repositories to be Ubuntu addresses, will it work right?
[05:43] <skon> If I'm running _Debian_ sorry and I set the repositories to be Ubuntu addresses, will it work right?
[05:43] <sethk> rottenapl, grub doesn't look at fstab
[05:43] <rottenapl> sethk: i know
[05:43] <sethk> rottenapl, run grub, at the prompt,  do    root (hd0,0)
[05:43] <fatehaze> i know acer has drivers for it, but how do i install the ndiswrapper?
[05:43] <sethk> rottenapl, then    setup (hd0)
[05:44] <rottenapl> sethk: i'm just saying, i have it ready.. jsut need it to be the bootable device and have grub in the mbr
[05:44] <sethk> rottenapl, assuming the /boot is on /dev/sda1
[05:44] <sethk> rottenapl, right, you need fstab to be correct to boot, of course
[05:44] <rottenapl> hd0,0? keep in mind, i have an IDE drive as well on the primary channel. what does 0,0 mean?
[05:44] <spanglesontoast> erm how do you get a terminal button on the desktop when you right click?
[05:44] <sethk> rottenapl, is /boot on your root partition, and your root partition is sda1?
[05:44] <sethk> rottenapl, sorry, sd, not hd
[05:45] <rottenapl> sethk: correct about /boot and sda1
[05:45] <sethk> rottenapl, the grub numbers are drive, and partition, starting from 0
[05:45] <sethk> rottenapl, so for /dev/sda1, you use (sd0,0)
[05:45] <rottenapl> sda only has 2 partitions... sda1 and sda2 (swap)
[05:45] <rottenapl> okay, am at the grub prompt
[05:45] <nalioth> skon: ubuntu and debian are mostly binary incompatible
[05:45] <skon> nalioth: k thanks
[05:46] <sethk> rottenapl, ok, all grub cares about is where /boot is and /, which are both sda1
[05:46] <sethk> rottenapl, so you'll do this:   root (sd0,0)
[05:46] <rottenapl> root (sd0,0) ... "Error while parsing number"
[05:46] <nalioth> skon: you can have all the ubuntu deb-src URLs you like and have apt-get build the pkgs for you
[05:46] <cafuego> rottenapl: hd0,0
[05:46] <sethk> rottenapl, hmm, something is messed up.  as we said, if sda isn't a device at the command line, it won't be for grub either
[05:46] <cafuego> rottenapl: grub doesn't care if it's sata, ide or scsi.
[05:46] <cafuego> sethk: foei
[05:46] <sethk> rottenapl, do you have ide drives also?
[05:47] <sethk> cafuego, I think he has both ide and sata drives connected
[05:47] <rottenapl> correct. hda is an IDE on primary channel. hdc is a cdrom, and sda is the SATA drive
[05:47] <cafuego> sethk: Even if that's the case, grub still doesn't use 'sd'
[05:47] <skon> thanks
[05:47] <sethk> cafuego, ok, but then, what?
[05:48] <cafuego> sethk: Depending on bios boot settings, sata would be hd0 or hd1/
[05:48] <cafuego> if you install it on both, you can't go wrong :-)
[05:48] <sethk> cafuego, at the moment that will put it on his primary master and primary slave ide drives
[05:48] <rottenapl> true. either way is going to work, but i need it to boot from the sata
[05:48] <cafuego> rottenapl: try both root (hd1,0) and (hd0,0)
[05:49] <cafuego> sethk: His primarly slave is a cdrom, so not hd1.
[05:49] <sethk> rottenapl, I believe you are going to have to disable one of the IDE channels and boot a rescue cd and run the grub shell from there
[05:49] <slew> hi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting up? it finds and fails a sensor, id like to remove the line.
[05:49] <gerrit> is there an equivilant to the disk cleanup utility in windows for ubuntu
[05:49] <sethk> cafuego, no, he said his cd is secondary master
[05:49] <rottenapl> sethk: correct
[05:49] <cafuego> sethk: Then *if* he has an hdb, sata would be hd2
[05:50] <rottenapl> Primary IDE: HDD, Secondary IDE: CDROM, SATA1: HDD
[05:50] <binarydigit> SteveStevings: what exactly would you need to clean up
[05:50] <cafuego> rottenapl: Ok, then root (hd1,0)
[05:50] <sethk> rottenapl, cafuego, try hd2
[05:50] <sethk> rottenapl, no primary slave drive?  then hd1
[05:50] <rottenapl> shared ide channels? yuck! :)
[05:51] <rottenapl> interesting
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, it is rather ugly
[05:51] <calamari> ahh.. got it.. uuid-dev :)
[05:51] <rottenapl> "Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, I've only done this with both ide and sata once.  Usually with sata, I don't run ide drives
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, that is normal
[05:51] <rottenapl> is that another way of saying "ext3"?
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, now, setup (hd2)
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, right, ext3
[05:51] <sethk> rottenapl, wait, no
[05:52] <Shadyman> rottenap: It's ext2 I think.
[05:52] <rottenapl> I KNOW the partition is ext3, since I formatted it that way
[05:52] <sethk> rottenapl, let me check.  I'm not sure whether grub identifies as ext2 or ext3
[05:52] <sethk> rottenapl, hold on, let me check one here.
[05:52] <intelikey> ext3  is ext2 + journal
[05:52] <rottenapl> i am NOT sure what ubuntu chose as the fs for the original/old install.
[05:52] <Shadyman> sethk: Just need to find what 83 stands for
[05:52] <spanglesontoast> !sources
[05:52] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:52] <sethk> Shadyman, no, unfortunately that's not correct.  83 just means linux file system
[05:52] <rabbit> In Synaptic, what's the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal"
[05:53] <Shadyman> sethk: Aw. I was pretty sure though there were 2 or 3 different types
[05:53] <sethk> rottenapl, it identifies my ext3 as ext2 also, so don't worry about it.
[05:53] <rottenapl> hrm
[05:53] <rottenapl> okay, cool.
[05:53] <polpak> rabbit: complete removal will remove configuration files as well
[05:53] <intelikey> Shadyman 83 stands for linux native partition
[05:53] <rottenapl> setup (hd1,0)?
[05:53] <sethk> Shadyman, for windows partitions, yes, but not for linux.  linux just has 83 and 82 for file system and swap
[05:53] <rabbit> polpak: why would I keep configuration files?
[05:53] <Shadyman> sethk: Aww.
[05:53] <sethk> rottenapl, no, setup (hd1)
[05:53] <rabbit> polpak:  if I ever reinstalled it would have some kind of settings?
[05:53] <rottenapl> oops, ok.
[05:53] <sethk> rottenapl, setup takes a drive as a target, not a partition, so it is just (hd1)
[05:53] <SteveStevings> what is the purpose of these huge (300+mb) logfiles syslog.0 and kern.log.0
[05:54] <intelikey> Shadyman 82 is solarus swap    also used by linux for 'native' swap partition
[05:54] <rottenapl> okay, it claims success
[05:54] <polpak> rabbit: if you'd modified the configs and wanted to be able to reinstall at some point
[05:54] <rottenapl> let's see what happened
[05:54] <sethk> rottenapl, ok, now it should boot from the sata drive, providing you don't remove the ide drive
[05:54] <sethk> rottenapl, wait one moment, though
[05:54] <sethk> rottenapl, you may want to also do setup (hd0)
[05:54] <rottenapl> i won't know what partition i'm actually in until i get into gnome
[05:55] <intelikey> 300m log file lol   loging everythin arent you ?
[05:55] <cafuego> rottenapl: *also* setup hd0.
[05:55] <polpak> SteveStevings: they show what's been going on in your system. You can rotate them out periodically though
[05:55] <rottenapl> too late
[05:55] <sethk> rottenapl, yes, but the bios is going to boot you from hd0, most likely, so also do setup (hd0)
[05:55] <rottenapl> haha!
[05:55] <cafuego> rottenapl: Then reboot, go into the bios and set sata as primary boot device.
[05:55] <sethk> rottenapl, well, not too late, you just have to boot again
[05:55] <rottenapl> one moment, already loading gnome
[05:55] <rottenapl> yeah
[05:55] <cafuego> rottenapl: That will most likely give you an *error*
[05:55] <sethk> rottenapl, or what cafuego suggested about the bios is also ok, if your bios does sata correctly
[05:56] <sethk> rottenapl, unfortunately, two of my machines that "support" sata have messed up bios support for them
[05:56] <rottenapl> yeah, i'm in the wrong drive
[05:56] <cafuego> ... you'll get a grub boot prompt, run the setup again, but this time sata will be hd0 (Coz you changed them in the bios).
[05:56] <sethk> rottenapl, you have to do the root command first
[05:56] <sethk> rottenapl, so   root (hd1,0)
[05:56] <sethk> rottenapl, then setup (hd0)
[05:56] <mbluntman> hello guys
[05:56] <sethk> cafuego, if he did change them in the bios.
[05:57] <sethk> cafuego, I don't think he's done that, at least not yet.
[05:57] <rottenapl> I am using an MSI Neo2 Platinum, we'll see
[05:57] <cafuego> sethk: Well, if he wants to boot FROM (rather than TO) sata, he'll need to.
[05:57] <rottenapl> back at grub now.
[05:57] <uberleet> hi i have installed ubuntu and im also running an adsl modem via USB port so how can i setup my network ?
[05:57] <mbluntman> might i ask a question regarding 64bit with xchat and blowfish
[05:57] <sethk> cafuego, yes, but if the ide drive is going to stay, there is nothing wrong with the mbr being on the ide drive
[05:57] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can I configure ubuntu to connect internet with dsl modem?
[05:57] <rottenapl> okay, i did setup (hd0,0)
[05:58] <sethk> mbluntman, you can ask any question you like, _except_ "may I ask a question about...."
[05:58] <mbluntman> lol
[05:58] <mbluntman> ok
[05:58] <sethk> rottenapl, no, root (hd1,0)    then   setup (hd0)
[05:58] <rottenapl> i don't care which drive is housing the bootstrapper, as long as i can get in
[05:58] <rottenapl> sethk: yes, i did that
[05:58] <uberleet> yes
[05:58] <lampshade> Ok, where do the x fonts defaulty go with tightvncserver and ubuntu?  Tightvncserver tries to find the fonts in a place that doesn't exist.  Where are they so I can change it
[05:58] <intelikey> that's one thing i don't like about grub it depends on bios and if you change the bios you can't boot without telling grub where the heck the drive went to.
[05:58] <uberleet> me to WeBDsIgNNeR
[05:58] <sethk> rottenapl, ok, you typed it wrong, which is why I said that
[05:58] <uberleet> i have installed ubuntu and im also running an adsl modem via USB port so how can i setup my network ?
[05:58] <sethk> rottenapl, but as long as you typed it correctly for grub  :)
[05:58] <uberleet> adsl/dsl
[05:58] <rottenapl> sethk: i did root (hd1,0), and then setup (hd0)
[05:59] <sethk> rottenapl, ok, then it should do what you want
[05:59] <rottenapl> okay, so I DON'T need to boot from the sata?
[05:59] <mbluntman> im using kubuntu on my amd64, i sudo apt-get install xchat, i tried to install fish on it and i get an error about shared object not found, i am wondering if this is another problem with me running 64bit or if this is  an xchat issue i must try to get support from xchat with
[05:59] <uberleet> ...
[06:00] <WeBDsIgNNeR> :/
[06:00] <uberleet> anyone can help us both ?
[06:00] <sethk> rottenapl, no, it is perfectly ok to boot from the ide's mbr
[06:00] <uberleet> WeBDsIgNNeR: are u using Vmware atm ?
[06:00] <intelikey> i blast a lilo mbr onto all drives and no matter what i do in bios it still boots normally thus even disabling hda in bios doesn't affect a boot up and can be a real help if you do a lot of disk shuffeling.
[06:00] <eobanb> uberleet, i think your best bet would be to use actual ethernet instead of usb.
[06:01] <uberleet> but i wanna use a USB
[06:01] <cafuego> mbluntman: Probably an xchat issue; amd64 has issues too, but they're more severe :-)
[06:01] <WeBDsIgNNeR> [uberleet] : what is this?
[06:01] <eobanb> uberleet, uh, why
[06:01] <MrNoOne> Whats the easiest way to remove ubuntu from a hard drive without causing problems with the other distros on the drive?
[06:01] <mbluntman> i know, i have ran across many problems with me running 64bit
[06:01] <uberleet> coz i cant get ethernet around my area
[06:01] <eobanb> 'cant get ethernet'?
[06:01] <mbluntman> i just switched over to kubuntu from windows xp
[06:01] <sethk> intelikey, yes, that's true, you trade off the "i forgot to run lilo" problem against that advantage.  I'm sure you don't forget to run lilo, but noobs often do.
[06:01] <rottenapl> okay, not good
[06:01] <rottenapl> i am still on the wrong drive
[06:02] <sethk> mbluntman, you can of course run 32 bit on your 64 bit machine
[06:02] <mbluntman> uberleet
[06:02] <sethk> rottenapl, change the boot menu on the sata drive.  Then reboot, to see which menu it is finding
[06:02] <AndrewX> we got ethernet. what? we got ethernet. what?
[06:02] <mbluntman> i cant respond
[06:02] <cafuego> mbluntman: I switched back from 64 to 32bit on my desktop.
[06:02] <intelikey> sethk true it can happen.  but that's like anything else you learn quickly.
[06:02] <sethk> rottenapl, just change something in one of the titles.
[06:02] <uberleet> kk
[06:02] <sethk> intelikey, true
[06:02] <uberleet> coz i cant get ethernet around my area
[06:02] <mbluntman> it says i must register something
[06:02] <uberleet> and i only have USB
[06:02] <uberleet> yeh register then
[06:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mbluntman about register
[06:03] <rabbit> what's the sources.list file for?    There's sources you can enable in synaptic, and should I change sources.list too?
[06:03] <cafuego> rabbit: They're the same file.
[06:03] <skon> !repositories
[06:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:03] <Di42lo> is there a .deb for the gaim2.0beta ?
[06:03] <Di42lo> for ubuntu ?
[06:03] <uberleet> /ns register [password-here] 
[06:03] <Yeahnude> How to share internet (with ubuntu) 2 Network cards and then share with another computer?
[06:03] <sethk> uberleet, that really doesn't make sense.  Ethernet is a LAN type.  It is not something you have to be able to get (like, say, DSL)
[06:03] <nalioth> Yeahnude: use firestarter
[06:03] <mbluntman> ok
[06:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Yeahnude about firestarter
[06:03] <sethk> Yeahnude, there are lots of howtos for that
[06:03] <Yeahnude> nalioth THX MAN:;D
[06:04] <rottenapl> menu changed
[06:04] <rottenapl> rebooting
[06:04] <uberleet> dude
[06:04] <uberleet> i said i cant get it i cant get it
[06:04] <rabbit> cafuego:  what are the sources (vs packages) for?
[06:04] <mbluntman> ok im regged
[06:04] <nalioth> rabbit: for building from source
[06:04] <uberleet> ;p
[06:04] <rabbit> nalioth:  why would I do that?
[06:04] <uberleet> now do how so i setup my network via adsl/USB ?
[06:05] <sethk> rabbit, if you don't know, you probably would not
[06:05] <rottenapl> peculiar
[06:05] <rottenapl> it's loading the menu from the sata
[06:05] <nalioth> rabbit: perhaps you dont like the way the default binary is built
[06:05] <sethk> rottenapl, then you need to modify the menu.lst file
[06:05] <rottenapl> maybe i should have just fixed the menu.lst manually while i was in there ><
[06:05] <sethk> rottenapl, it probably has (hd0,0)/ in it, and you need (hd1,0)
[06:05] <rabbit> nalioth:  say for another architecture or something?
[06:05] <uberleet> so nobody can help?
[06:05] <nalioth> rabbit: or like me ( i have powerpc ubuntu) a pkg isnt available as a binary, i can build it
[06:05] <eobanb> uberleet, the chances of you getting your usb adsl modem to work with ubuntu is slim to none.  my guess would be none.  usb was never for networking, ethernet is, so i dont mean to be rude, but i dont know how it would kill you to just go and buy an ethernet cable for $5
[06:05] <rottenapl> is there no way to fix the menu item from the grub console?
[06:05] <uberleet> ..
[06:05] <rabbit> nalioth:  k, thanks
[06:06] <sethk> rottenapl, you can edit the boot parameters with grub
[06:06] <uberleet> .....
[06:06] <cyphase> ha sanyone had problems with the dapper flight 2 cd?
[06:06] <cyphase> has anyone*
[06:06] <sethk> rottenapl, you could go into edit mode, and change it from (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) and see if it fixes the problem
[06:06] <rottenapl> bingo
[06:06] <cyphase> live cd*
[06:07] <sethk> rottenapl, (hd1,0) fixes it?
[06:07] <rottenapl> it was set to 0,2 rather than 1,0
[06:07] <rottenapl> i edited it and booted using the edited entry. i'll correct/clean up the rest manually
[06:07] <uberleet> well is anyone gonna help me
[06:07] <sethk> rottenapl, sounds good
[06:07] <rottenapl> now let's see if anything else is broken :)
[06:08] <uberleet> today?
[06:08] <cyphase> Has anyone had problems with the Dapper Flight 2 Live CD?
[06:08] <rottenapl> gahh! it's still the wrong drive!
[06:08] <rottenapl> lol
[06:08] <rottenapl> i wonder if i commited my changes
[06:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cyphase about repeat
[06:08] <cyphase> lol
[06:08] <sethk> rottenapl, easy to check
[06:08] <uberleet> ubotu: tell nalioth about shut up
[06:09] <rottenapl> :p
[06:09] <uberleet> just fucking help me
[06:09] <dhruv> has anyone used picard(probably a longshot) ? I'm having trouble getting it to write id3 tags.
[06:09] <uberleet> i been here for 2 days
[06:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell uberleet about conduct
[06:09] <sethk> nalioth, :)
[06:09] <rottenapl> no, it did not commit :)
[06:10] <mrkoje> anyone know anything about portknocking?
[06:10] <eobanb> well he was obnoxious...
[06:10] <sethk> rottenapl, good, I was beginning to think I don't know anything at all.  :)
[06:10] <ereet> now can i get help
[06:10] <ereet> lol dumb ass.
[06:10] <binarydigit> mrkoje: what about it
[06:10] <nalioth> ereet: would you like some time to think, also?
[06:10] <sethk> there's a man who really wants help.  :)
[06:10] <mrkoje> binarydigit,  you know binary isn't a digit?
[06:11] <binarydigit> mrkoje: do you know a 1 or a 0 is a binary digit
[06:11] <rottenapl> the last time i tried desktop linux was slackware 8 or something. ubuntu is rocking my world
[06:11] <mrkoje> binarydigit,  ok ok... I know you know. Do you use portknocking? Can you point me to some white papers?
[06:11] <calamari> I'm looking for an ultra lightweight html viewer, with as small a file size and as few dependencies as possible (preferenably none, except libc).. any ideas?
[06:11] <binarydigit> ive only read about it when it was first being talked about
[06:11] <binarydigit> all i can say is google
[06:11] <binarydigit> i believe there is an example app
[06:11] <binarydigit> somewhere out there
[06:11] <MrNoOne> sigh.. well I started out tongight from not being able to login to Ubuntu via the GUI interface to the boot screen hurling. Definitely a step in the wrong direction
[06:11] <binarydigit> that demonstrates it
[06:11] <mrkoje> calamari,  links
[06:11] <rabbit> should I add the supported/community supported sources given by 'source-o-matic'  ?   why do I do this?
[06:12] <rabbit> right now they're not enabled..
[06:12] <lukas> hi guy, I new Ubuntu and Linux
[06:12] <lukas> I have some questions
[06:12] <blackvd> need help listening to streaming audio,says I need mms?
[06:12] <rottenapl> oh man, now i'm pissed
[06:12] <calamari> mrkoje: I just compiled elinks with --disable *.. it was over 2mb, and has tons of dependencies
[06:12] <nalioth> blackvd: mimms or mmsclient
[06:12] <rottenapl> sethk: i am still on the wrong drive. i SAW it load 1,0
[06:12] <cyphase> *sigh*
[06:12] <sampan> oooh bot attax
[06:12] <ordinary> aad
[06:12] <ordinary> aah
[06:12] <ordinary> aah
[06:12] <mrkoje> calamari,  what about lynx
[06:12] <Unity> did i come in at a bad time?
[06:12] <ordinary> aah
[06:13] <ordinary> D:
[06:13] <ordinary> lol
[06:13] <eobanb> UGH
[06:13] <calamari> mrkoje: I'll try it :)
[06:13] <ordinary> * RAX-27896 has quit (Success)
[06:13] <sethk> rottenapl, you definitely have only one ide drive and one sata drive?
[06:13] <binarydigit> so leet
[06:13] <Unity> ubuntu is super popular!!
[06:13] <QMario> Who are these people?
[06:13] <binarydigit> big fans of ubuntu
[06:13] <Kyral> Bots most likely
[06:13] <QMario> He's probably using several proxies.
[06:13] <sampan> qmario  drones/bots
[06:13] <GoRoDeK> :)
[06:13] <Kyral> Zonbies
[06:13] <sethk> rottenapl, what is your root= set to?
[06:14] <QMario> Sampan, bad ones, right?
[06:14] <sampan> a script kiddie got ticked off and bombed the chan
[06:14] <sampan> yes
[06:14] <sethk> rottenapl, it may be using the kernel from the sata but still using /dev/hda1 as root
[06:14] <ordinary> Success?
[06:14] <rottenapl> sethk: one moment
[06:14] <lukas> does any one know how to edit the yaboot.config file to boot from Mac OS X by default?
[06:14] <QMario> Sampan, how do you know if it is a script being run?
[06:14] <intelikey> script attack,  revenge of the banned..... ?
[06:14] <ordinary> what did he succeed at?
[06:14] <Unity> hundreds of RAXxes left
[06:14] <rottenapl> sethk: d'oh :)
[06:14] <rabbit> should I add the supported/community supported sources given by 'source-o-matic'  ?   why do I do this?   they're not enabled right now..
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[06:15] <sethk> rottenapl, that's good, easy to fix.  :)
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[06:15] <lilo> sorry about the problems
[06:16] <lilo> klining along....some problem child
[06:21] <MrNoOne> why the heck would changing a password for the non root account at the rescue level cause Ubunutu now to hurl and prevent the displaying of the GUI screen????? Gives an error about gdm user missing
[06:21] <cyphase> finally
[06:21] <Wilf> :(
[06:21] <skon> :-D
[06:21] <skon> What a loser
[06:21] <sethk> back?
[06:21] <Unity> how can they all have different ips?
[06:21] <sethk> isn't vandalism wonderful?
[06:21] <skon> botney :-D
[06:21] <nalioth> Unity: script kiddie
[06:21] <skon> botnet
[06:22] <Wilf> he liked japan...
[06:22] <Unity> nalioth, how do i know for example that my ip wasn't banned?
[06:22] <nalioth> Unity: are you still here?
[06:22] <cyphase> Unity, it's very easy to fake IP's, but only if you don't want anything coming back to you
[06:22] <blackvd> ok I installed mimms now what?
[06:23] <Remmy> These were mostly hacked windows machines
[06:23] <cyphase> in this case he just wanted to flood the channel with joins
[06:23] <sampan> unity, they hack people's computers (usually by getting windows clients to click on a link on another irc net that infects the clients' pc with an irc-bot that gives the hacker control)
[06:23] <lilo> sorry about the delays, holiday coverage is a bit light
[06:23] <nalioth> blackvd: point mimms at the URL for the stream
[06:23] <Unity> sampan, oh cool i don't run windows
[06:23] <blackvd> in terminal
[06:23] <blackvd> ?
[06:23] <sethk> Unity, because we can all hear you  :)
[06:24] <Remmy> Unity: The problem is that people who do, and who's systems get compromised usually don't know, or don't care, as they don't understand the dangers involved.
[06:24] <sethk> Unity, you are correct, though, sometimes an ip will be banned whose only error was letting himself get hacked
[06:24] <sethk> Unity, but what can anyone do about that?
[06:24] <sampan> usually they don't even know -- the bots connect to irc whenever the infected pc is online -- they join specific channels or hidden nets and the hacker then gives commands to them there
[06:25] <sethk> speaking of which, there is a nasty new windows vulnerability that showed up yesterday
[06:25] <skon> in metafiles?
[06:25] <PeteyPablo> whats -r ?
[06:25] <eobanb> oh shit
[06:25] <sethk> skon, in a particular type of picture file
[06:25] <skon> sethk: yeah I got that cert advisory too
[06:25] <sethk> skon, looks particularly nasty and M$ has nothing for it
[06:26] <lilo> problem children again
[06:26] <eobanb> uh yeah.
[06:26] <Kyral> uhoh
[06:26] <blackvd> ok says connected and is doing ............. but no sound?
[06:26] <Kyral> lilo!!
[06:26] <sethk> I miss so much by turning off join/part messages
[06:26] <Kyral> hehehe
[06:26] <ubuntu> there r all ubuntu users ?
[06:26] <intelikey> that dumb jurk.
[06:26] <lampshade> Hey, I can connect to my xvncserver, but I don't see anything.  Just grey, what am I missing?  I have fluxbox installed, but it just doesn't... yeah.... I got nothing :-/
[06:27] <cyphase> hey tobobo. chat was blocked when you joned earlier
[06:27] <cyphase> :)
[06:27] <QMario> Is [15]  another robot?
[06:27] <eobanb> QMario, yes
[06:27] <nalioth> yes they are
[06:27] <ubuntu> who is lilo ?
[06:27] <nalioth> lilo is the owner of freenode
[06:27] <crimsun> he's freenode's network head honcho.
[06:27] <Kyral> lilo is teh uber god of Freenode
[06:27] <ubuntu> hehe
[06:28] <lilo> thanks guys
[06:28] <PeteyPablo> we are all a bunch of suckups
[06:28] <lilo> I'm named after a favorite science fiction character, in John Varley's THE OPHIUCHI HOTLINE. I am *not* named after the LInux LOader, and I didn't write it! :)  -- lilo, winter 1993 || Nor am I named after the little girl in the movie, nor the air mattress, nor Last In Last Out. ;) -- lilo, summer 2003
[06:28] <lilo> Goldfisch: ^^
[06:28] <blackvd> any clues on why no audio through mimms?
[06:28] <lilo> you're welcome, intelikey
[06:28] <Unity> it must feel cool setting modes and kicking people without ops
[06:28] <PeteyPablo> lol
[06:28] <lilo> PeteyPablo: well, I appreciate the kind words....I think anybody would 8)
[06:29] <PeteyPablo> lilo, oh no doubt
[06:29] <PeteyPablo> lilo, truthfully im just jealous :-)
[06:29] <nalioth> lilo: you are much appreciated, for more than this.
[06:29] <lilo> PeteyPablo: eep, don't be jealous.... whenever there's politics I have a big target painted on my back :)
[06:29] <Hentai^XPwork> lilo: you created ##windows?
[06:29] <lilo> Hentai^XPwork: yes
[06:29] <PeteyPablo> eww windows.
[06:30] <Hentai^XPwork> thought so ok lilo
[06:30] <lampshade> __anyone use tight vnc?__  extremely frustrated here.....
[06:30] <nalioth> lilo you gonna set a staffer in #ubuntu-unregged to log ?
[06:30] <lilo> nalioth: if I can find one 8)
[06:31] <nalioth> lilo: seems someone has found us again...
[06:31] <sethk> such energy.  and nothing else to do with it?
[06:31] <ttyp> does ubuntu have a 64-bit version?
[06:31] <eobanb> ttyp, yes
[06:31] <PeteyPablo> ttyp, yea
[06:31] <ttyp> cool
[06:32] <cafuego> ttyp: Yes, but note that it doesn't do 1) flash, 2) java on the web and 3) video.
[06:32] <WhyvasLTT> grub.conf ?
[06:32] <PeteyPablo> cafuego, really?
[06:32] <WhyvasLTT> where is it?
[06:32] <cafuego> PeteyPablo: Really.
[06:32] <PeteyPablo> cafuego, thats pathetic :-(
[06:32] <eobanb> ttyp, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/ for all available versions
[06:33] <ttyp> cafuego: hmm. does gentoo not do those things either?
[06:33] <cyphase> lilo, why does whois say your logged onto only channels i'm logged on to?
[06:33] <cyphase> :)
[06:33] <cafuego> PeteyPablo: Tell the manufacturers of the icky ia32 software to fix their code :-)
[06:33] <slindsay> hello all..  I'm having a problem with the hotplug system hanging during bootup.  I'm running an older Dell Latitude.  I looked throught the forums, but nobody seems to have a definitive solution to the problem.  Anyone have some suggestions?  (I'm running 5.10, btw)
[06:33] <cafuego> ttyp: Nope
[06:33] <Goldfisch> The only thing close to a grub.conf on my system is /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf
[06:33] <PeteyPablo> cafuego, i would but i would probably end up stabbing them
[06:33] <calamari> cyphase: it does that it if you are +i
[06:33] <crimsun> slindsay: what particularly w/ hotplug?
[06:33] <sethk> ttyp, gentoo does the same things as everyone else, only after a week of compiling and a bit more slowly
[06:33] <cyphase> +i?
[06:34] <PeteyPablo> gentoo = sucky
[06:34] <Unity> no os bashing!
[06:34] <calamari> cyphase: at least in efnet :)  +i is invisible
[06:34] <crimsun> let's leave the distro wars outside, please.
[06:34] <eobanb> agreed.
[06:34] <cafuego> Unity: Gnetoo is not an OS.
[06:34] <PeteyPablo> sorry :-)
[06:34] <slindsay> crimsun: well, it boots up with the fancy graphical splash screen, but when it gets to the entry about "Starting hotplug subsystem" it just hangs.
[06:34] <Unity> cafuego, i thought it was a sinux distro
[06:34] <pl_ice> after hrs my ipod still doesn't like linux :/
[06:35] <Unity> someone switched my l and s!
[06:35] <PeteyPablo> Unity, unlikely.
[06:35] <slindsay> crimsun: it doesn't do this every time, however.  If a do a hard reboot (power switch), it usually works on the second try.
[06:35] <intelikey> PeteyPablo i like gentoo it reminds me of mc.         oh you mean the distro ja ja ja
[06:35] <eobanb> har har har
[06:35] <PeteyPablo> intelikey, i just dont know why anyone would use anything except ubuntu!
[06:36] <calamari> fedora isn't too bad, at least it has gnome
[06:36] <WhyvasLTT> PeteyPablo, that's because you're narrow minded
[06:36] <intelikey> you use ubuntu PeteyPablo ?   do you have gentoo installed on it ?
[06:36] <WhyvasLTT> and you never tried anything else probably
[06:36] <Goldfisch> Well, if we are throwing in our opinions of distributions...if it's RPM, I am not interested. deb's save the day.
[06:36] <ttyp> actually i've been using slackware for a while and i like it a lot but i got a 64-bit PC for xmas and i'm looking for a 64-bit distro
[06:36] <PeteyPablo> WhyvasLTT, you don't know me, don't make assumptions
[06:36] <intelikey> PeteyPablo sudo apt-get install gentoo
[06:36] <PeteyPablo> WhyvasLTT, i've used many linux distro's
[06:36] <Kyral> lol
[06:36] <calamari> intelikey: lol
[06:37] <Kyral> you can actyally
[06:37] <PeteyPablo> i don't like gentoo, my opinion sorry if i made some fanboys mad.
[06:37] <intelikey> calamari something funny ?
[06:37] <crimsun> slindsay: interesting. Which laptop again?
[06:37] <eobanb> ttyp, there is a 64-bit version of ubuntu; just be aware that support for some non-free software is limited
[06:37] <Goldfisch> ttyp: My 64-bit MythTV machine is debian 64. That was before I got into ubunutu. If I was standing it up now for the first time, I would investigate ubuntu's 64-bit version.
[06:37] <PeteyPablo> WhyvasLTT, and actually i have a big head
[06:37] <Unity> can i put ubuntu on an sata drive and boot from it without all that hassle with drivers that you need on windows?
[06:37] <intelikey> !info gentoo
[06:37] <ubotu> gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB
[06:38] <WhyvasLTT> yeah yeah, start naming off the distros you booted off or logged into to prove you're cool now....
[06:38] <sethk> Unity, if your sata chipset is supported, yes.
[06:38] <cafuego> Unity: Yes.
[06:38] <intelikey> smart asses ^
[06:38] <PeteyPablo> WhyvasLTT, please stop trying to flame me, your not funny. and i didn't name any distros? i just said i had tried many
[06:38] <slindsay> crimsun: It's an older Dell Latitude CPi - A, according to the sticker on the back.
[06:38] <PeteyPablo> ignored.
[06:38] <crimsun> WhyvasLTT: / PeteyPablo: quit it.
[06:38] <PeteyPablo> crimsun, affirmative. he's been perma squelched
[06:38] <cafuego> ttyp: Yeah, it was fun to play with, but too much stuff just doesn't work. it gets highly annoying after a while.
[06:39] <PeteyPablo> i find the 64 bit world is quite lacking now a days, linux and windows.
[06:39] <crimsun> slindsay: if you can get to /var/log/dmesg, that'll help
[06:39] <nalioth> PeteyPablo: WhyvasLTT: y'all really should discuss distros in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <WhyvasLTT> im just saying he's obviously never tried any others, and booting off of a live cd doesn't count...
[06:39] <WhyvasLTT> simple as that
[06:39] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, sorry for the inconvenience i squelched him should be no more problems
[06:39] <intelikey> Goldfisch that's what i was doing :)
[06:40] <slindsay> crimsun: yup, I'm looking through it right now.  What should I be looking for?
[06:40] <crimsun> pastebin it
[06:41] <WhyvasLTT> yeah, im sure he's ignoring me too...
[06:41] <nalioth> WhyvasLTT: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:41] <psusi> Unity, windows usually doesn't need special drivers for sata either, AFAIK
[06:41] <psusi> unless you're talking sata raid
[06:41] <lampshade> I'm trying to install Fluxbox and access it through tightvncserver, however, I can connect to the vncserver, I don't see anything.  I have the basic X cursor and see nothing.  ideas?  Googling hasn't produced anything that worked
[06:42] <Unity> psusi, i've had trouble in the past with it
[06:42] <Unity> psusi, lost a lot of important stuff
[06:42] <nalioth> lampshade: ask uncle google "x forwarding ssh"
[06:42] <Kyral> ssh -X
[06:42] <ttyp> is the sata chipset on the mobo or on the hd?
[06:42] <slindsay> crimsun: is there a channel for large log-dumps?
[06:42] <Kyral> FreeNX
[06:42] <nalioth> slindsay: #flood or use a pastebin
[06:43] <slindsay> crimsun: I probably shouldn't paste the entire log here, I'd imagine.
[06:43] <Goldfisch> lampshade: It launched a separate X server for that instance of vncserver. Probably has next to nothing in the X session. Does right clicking offer some menus in fluxbox?
[06:43] <Kyral> FreeNX > SSH X11 > VNC
[06:43] <NoWhereToTurn> Can someone help me?
[06:43] <lampshade> nalioth:  xforwarding is lame and besides, unless a windows machine is running cygwin it just gets worse
[06:43] <slindsay> nalioth: I'm an irc newbie. :(
[06:43] <psusi> Kyral, what is freenx, and why do you say raw X11 > vnc?
[06:43] <Unity> ttyp, no clue...i would think on the mb though
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slindsay about pastebin
[06:43] <intelikey> probably not NoWhereToTurn but we might if you tell us what you need.
[06:43] <Goldfisch> I like using vino, because then I can get to an existing X session instead of forming a new one. That lets me keep one copy of evolution running on my desktop PC, without pushing it between :0 and :1.
[06:44] <Kyral> psusi: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:44] <psusi> Kyral, with X11 forwarding, you need ssh, then you just run individual programs on the remote host that pop up like they are local... I like vnc because it's got its own window with the full desktop and everything
[06:44] <Unity> ttyp, how can sata chipset be on the hd?
[06:44] <NoWhereToTurn> Ok will here goes again. Could not get logged into Unbuntu via Gui
[06:44] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn i mean unless you be specific, we can not help you.
[06:44] <cafuego> Unity: tragic accident?
[06:44] <DotheGuru> does anyone know of a good list of terminal commands?
[06:44] <Kyral> psusi: I'd prefer the speed of X11 and securitu
[06:44] <NoWhereToTurn> So I went into signle user mode and changged the oassword on an account whose name is NOT root
[06:45] <psusi> Kyral, it's been years since I did it that way, but iirc, it was SLOW
[06:45] <Kyral> VNC is slower for me
[06:45] <Kyral> but FreeNX
[06:45] <psusi> tightvnc compresses everything well... X11 doesn't
[06:45] <NoWhereToTurn> Now when I boot up ubuntu hurls and does not even load the GUI properly
[06:45] <Kyral> holy shit it has to be seen
[06:46] <psusi> hrm... I'll have to check it out....
[06:46] <DotheGuru> nowhere: what do you see?
[06:46] <crimsun> Kyral: (you're bound by the same CoC that you signed regarding exclamations)
[06:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DotheGuru about cli
[06:46] <Kyral> crimsun: meh :P
[06:46] <NoWhereToTurn> one sec DotheGuru
[06:47] <calamari> gparted seems to be able to change an ext2 partition into an ext3.. is there a command line tool that will do the same?
[06:47] <psusi> calamari, tune2fs
[06:47] <calamari> psusi: thanks
[06:47] <binarydigit> gparted is just a frontend for parted
[06:47] <intelikey> ok NoWhereToTurn, sounds like the .Xauthority  or .iceauthority files may be owned by root.   you can safely rm them by using the [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  and logging into a console then ' rm .*auth* '
[06:47] <NoWhereToTurn> chown root:video invalid user on bootup followed by a test screen where the GUI should be displayed that says ADM user not found
[06:47] <psusi> calamari, the only difference is ext3 has a log file.. tune2fs can add or remove that log file ( aka journal )
[06:48] <NoWhereToTurn> tets-text
[06:48] <intelikey> err sudo that even ^
[06:48] <calamari> binarydigit: I think it adds a little more functionality besides just parted
[06:48] <nalioth> calamari: sudo tune2fs -j /path/to/device
[06:48] <binarydigit> ah
[06:49] <calamari> nalioth: thanks
[06:49] <NoWhereToTurn> "The gdm user does not exist" Please correwct the gdm configuration /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm"
[06:49] <NoWhereToTurn> Thats the final text screen that I see instead of the gui
[06:49] <dorto> i am not able to access the mounted NTFS partitions as a normal user?
[06:49] <Syco54645> hi i was wondering what linux would see my new sata drive as
[06:49] <NoWhereToTurn> What exactly is the root login via the gui or can one not due to security
[06:50] <Syco54645> i need to partition it
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NoWhereToTurn about sudo
[06:50] <RedRose> NoWhereToTurn:It Let's You Login As Root In The Login Menu... It's Insecure Cause Root can Cause A Lot Of Troubl
[06:50] <RedRose> is there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp
[06:51] <nalioth> RedRose: gftp
[06:51] <AMe-> Hi quick question, how much space should one have at least to have a good working ubuntu system?
[06:51] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn root login on X is disabled in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf if i remembe correctly.
[06:51] <slindsay> crimsun: okay, I posted my dmesg log on pastebin
[06:51] <nalioth> AMe-: how big is your hard drive <GRIN>
[06:51] <AMe-> 5gb? 10gb?
[06:51] <NoWhereToTurn> RedRose should I follow intelikey suggestion about ^^^
[06:51] <RedRose> nalioth:non-GUI... command-line based
[06:51] <AMe-> i want to run ubuntu with gentoo and pentesting tools
[06:52] <nalioth> AMe-: 7gb would be the minimum i'd use,but for cli only you can get by with 4
[06:52] <AMe-> thanks :)
[06:52] <intelikey> only sujestion i made is rm the ./.*auth* files
[06:52] <AMe-> heh gentoo meant gnome
[06:52] <intelikey> ****** only sujestion i made is rm the ./.*auth* files ******
[06:52] <RedRose> is there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp... non-gui preferably
[06:52] <AMe-> ncftp
[06:52] <nalioth> intelikey: why are you repeating?
[06:52] <shadeofgrey> okay guys'
[06:53] <shadeofgrey> i need help
[06:53] <binarydigit> liar
[06:53] <RedRose> shadeofgrey:more specific?
[06:53] <dorto> if i open /media/hda6 etc as a normal user i don't see any files
[06:53] <superchode|fu> should i be able to ssh into a default ubuntu install?
[06:53] <shadeofgrey> i just installeed dapper flight 2, AND distroupgraded...  but the mouse  applet in preferences wont swap my mouse buttons and i need to be ableto do that
[06:53] <intelikey> you mean why did i nalioth i added the attention * because i wasnt sure the correct party noticed.
[06:53] <tritium> superchode|fu, no, not until you install the server
[06:53] <RedRose> is there a client that will allow me to connect to a secure, anonnymous ftp... non-gui preferably
[06:54] <dorto> i can't open my mp3 files frim rhythmbox that are stored on ntfs partition
[06:54] <dorto> what should i do?
[06:54] <superchode|fu> so i need to install openssh-server, yes?
[06:54] <shadeofgrey> can somebody supply me with a GOOD sources.list file so i can update to the latest
[06:54] <crimsun> slindsay: my guess is either ACPI or pcmcia
[06:54] <eobanb> !mp3
[06:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:54] <tritium> superchode|fu, yep :)
[06:54] <RedRose> dorto:Did you mound the NTFS partition yet?
[06:54] <superchode|fu> k, thx.
[06:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about sources
[06:54] <RedRose> !mp3
[06:54] <crimsun> slindsay: can you reproduce the spinning on hotplug if you boot with acpi=off ?
[06:54] <dorto> RedRose, yes, i can see all the files using sudo
[06:54] <NoWhereToTurn> Should I boot into recovery mode to try to fix this problem?
[06:54] <lalalalala> kiki
[06:54] <shadeofgrey> no i need sources for DAPPER
[06:54] <intelikey> RedRose i like ncftp
[06:54] <dorto> its not about not able to play mp3, i am not able see the files
[06:55] <lalalalala> huhu
[06:55] <RedRose> dorto:that's the problem... you are able to see the files as root, but not as the user logged into the GUI
[06:55] <RedRose> GNOME...
[06:55] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: you do know that stuff can be horribly broken in Dapper, correct?
[06:55] <slindsay> crimsun: I can certainly try
[06:55] <intelikey> RedRose lftp is probably installed by default tho
[06:55] <RedRose> you need to mount it and allow it to be seen by all
[06:55] <shadeofgrey> crimsun:  YES.  and the mouse applet IS broken.  but yestersday somebody gave me a better sources.list file and it fixed it
[06:56] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: in your sources.list, change breezy for dapper, and prepare to break.
[06:56] <dorto> RedRose, so what should i do? i tried chaning the permissions for /media/hda* and the ownership also; i get 'read only filesystem error'
[06:56] <crimsun> slindsay: ok, I'm leaving work, so I'll be back in an hour.
[06:56] <dorto> RedRose, how to mount it so that everyone can see the files? sth in options in /etc/fstab?
[06:56] <intelikey> ooo is he gona break now.....
[06:56] <RedRose> ok, man mount
[06:56] <tritium> be safe, crimsun
[06:57] <crimsun> thanks, tritium
[06:57] <dorto> redhook, k, will look there, thx
[06:57] <dorto> oops, *redrose
[06:57] <shadeofgrey> guys its okay.  im installing dapperon a totally seperate drive
[06:57] <AMe-> dorto you know redhook?
[06:57] <AMe-> oh nm heh
[06:57] <shadeofgrey> theres nothing to get worried about.  my main breezy installation is alive and well.
[06:58] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: have fun.
[06:58] <superchode|fu> thanks, logged in over ssh now.
[06:58] <lalalalala> gygyy
[06:58] <RedRose> dorto:...
[06:58] <tritium> superchode|fu, :)
[06:58] <RedRose> mount /dev/... ... -o user
[06:58] <Goldfisch> superchode|fu: I also suggest checking out keychain
[06:58] <RedRose> will allow anuyone to view the partition
[06:58] <dorto> k, thank you very much :)
[06:58] <ironwolf> I can't seem to get the wireless part of a thinkpad R32 working.  It seems to see  the card in iwconfig, has the right wep key.  (Breezy) any hints/suggestions?
[06:59] <superchode|fu> Goldfisch: elaborate?
[06:59] <NoWhereToTurn> sigh
[07:00] <spstarr_home> is the bugzilla page on ubuntu.com broken?
[07:00] <NoWhereToTurn> well ubuntu looks like it is dead
[07:01] <AMe-> how is that?
[07:01] <NoWhereToTurn> can not login at all
[07:01] <spstarr_home> You must choose a component to file this bug in. If necessary, just guess
[07:01] <spstarr_home> i dont see all the required fields on bugzilla
[07:01] <spstarr_home> thus it wont let me fill in the bug :_)
[07:01] <Goldfisch> Keychain is an OpenSSH key manager, typically run from ~/'.bash_profile. When keychain is run, it checks for a running ssh-agent, otherwise it starts one.
[07:02] <NoWhereToTurn> If I am at a text login prompt can I not use "root" as the username???
[07:02] <tritium> !tell Nothingman about rootsudo
[07:02] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn do you have a root password set ?
[07:02] <Madpilot> NoWhereToTurn: not by default
[07:03] <NoWhereToTurn> Its been ages since I used Ubuntu
[07:03] <intelikey> !root
[07:03] <rob1^laptop> !nothanks
[07:03] <ubotu> Not a clue, rob1^laptop
[07:03] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: use your username, and then use sudo from the console
[07:03] <intelikey> ah that's a pm now.... hmmm
[07:03] <TheDracle> I need some help with webmin
[07:03] <Madpilot> intelikey: longer ubotu tells are routed to pm now
[07:04] <intelikey> yes i see that
[07:04] <NoWhereToTurn> Nope nalioth I still can not get password the login prompt in the text screen
[07:04] <spanglesontoast> wheres mame?
[07:04] <TheDracle> How do I set it up so that I can access with from another computer: e.g. https://ubuntu:10000/
[07:04] <dorto> mount [...]  -o user still doesn't allow the partitions to be readable by the normal user
[07:05] <dorto> last time i was able to access ntfs partitions from various applications as a normal user
[07:05] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: is this your installed ubuntu or a liveCD?
[07:05] <dorto> i don't know what's happening this time
[07:05] <NoWhereToTurn> Installed on HD
[07:05] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: then ctrl-c out of it and try again
[07:05] <TheDracle> My iptables should be OK for port 10000, tcp. webmin IP access should allow any. What's left?
[07:05] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could boot to single user and set the password for the main user even add a user and add them to the admin group for safty....
[07:06] <NoWhereToTurn> The gui does not load. CTL-C does nothing since I a restricted to text / console mode
[07:06] <TheDracle> I can access https://localhost:10000/ no problem.
[07:06] <NoWhereToTurn> signle user mode = recovery mode?
[07:06] <TheDracle> Just not from any other computer
[07:06] <TestAMD> hi
[07:06] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: yes
[07:06] <binarydigit> is there a way to add items to the places menu
[07:06] <Knowerrors>  Just did an apt-get update and got this message http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/483807 , anybody know how to fix this?
[07:06] <twysted> TheDracle> you have to use the network ip
[07:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell binarydigit about alacarte
[07:07] <NoWhereToTurn> Recovery mode is dead
[07:07] <twysted> TheDracle> eg http://192.168.0.4:1000
[07:07] <binarydigit> thanks
[07:07] <NoWhereToTurn> thats where I have been trying to login via the console
[07:07] <dorto> can anyone access the ntfs partitions in ubuntu as a normal user?
[07:07] <intelikey> no i don't think they are the same NoWhereToTurn   add  'single'   to the kernel line at boot time.
[07:07] <TheDracle> twysted: I am using the correct IP, that is not the problem.
[07:07] <TestAMD> i got a question.. im wanting to change the default username and password on the livecd..where would i do that at?
[07:07] <dorto> can you show me your /etc/fstab file?
[07:07] <twysted> TheDracle> you put localhost in the window so one has to assume you did not
[07:07] <fli7e> dorto, i dont think so. you need ntfs read/write utilities to do that as far as i know
[07:07] <intelikey> errr actually the append line of the kernel arguments
[07:07] <TheDracle> I can ssh into the computer remotely with the same iptables settings.
[07:07] <twysted> TheDracle> why are you using a firewall internally anyways
[07:07] <nalioth> dorto: change your fstab permissions
[07:08] <nalioth> dorto: the permissions in your fstab
[07:08] <TheDracle> twysted: localhost works fine. It is when I try to connect from a different computer that I cannot connect.
[07:08] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn give it the three fingered solute and it'll reboot
[07:08] <TheDracle> twysted: I am not using a firewall internally.
[07:08] <twysted> TheDracle> iptables is a firewall
[07:08] <TheDracle> twysted: I know
[07:09] <TestAMD> how do i change the Ubuntu@ubuntu on the livecd?? as in remastering the livecd..
[07:09] <twysted> TheDracle> im not helping you, your being stupid and i cant work with you
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> okqay where can i go toget the LATEST version of dapper?
[07:09] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey been there with 3 finger numerous times
[07:09] <nalioth> TestAMD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[07:09] <TheDracle> My iptables is set up correctly to allow ssh connections from a select few machine. The same setting should allow connections to port 10000.
[07:10] <TheDracle> ssh works fine
[07:10] <TheDracle> webmin workd fine as long as I connect locally.
[07:10] <twysted> TheDracle> apparently not since you cant view the webmin disable iptables and see if it works then
[07:11] <NoWhereToTurn> I am using GRUB ot boot Ubuntu
[07:11] <twysted> TheDracle> i use ubuntu and webmin on my server ive never had to setup anything special to use it on a remote machine
[07:11] <NoWhereToTurn> To enter single user mode do I add signle on to the line which has /root= ?
[07:11] <TheDracle> Crap.
[07:11] <TheDracle> I should have thought before I did iptables -F
[07:11] <twysted> NoWhereToTurn> boot into failsafe mode
[07:11] <TheDracle> I have policy set up to DROP everything.
[07:11] <TheDracle> Grrrrrrr.
[07:11] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn yeah,  use  [esc]   then select the default boot option of ubuntu and use  [E]   to edit    add  'single'   or  '1'   and  [b]  to boot.       that should boot to a sulogin (means you are already logged in as root when you get there) console  there you can affect the repairs needed.
[07:12] <twysted> NoWhereToTurn> at the grub menu just pres the esc key and youll have a choice of normal ubuntu and failsafe
[07:12] <Wilf> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 141: `won't compile at all (because it was a freshly unpacked tree without'
[07:12] <Wilf> cut: you must specify a list of bytes, characters, or fields
[07:12] <Wilf> what's that mean?
[07:12] <mystamax> hello everyone
[07:12] <TheDracle> Now I need to connect into the machine (located at a remote site in the Utah desert) via my backup modem.
[07:12] <TheDracle> BRB
[07:12] <binarydigit> nalioth: alacarte doesn't allow you to add items to the places menu
[07:12] <twysted> TheDracle> im in utah want me to go kick it?
[07:12] <mystamax> anyone running ubuntu on VMware?
[07:12] <dorto> nalioth: just tried...added 'user' under options, but no success. what else do i need to add?
[07:12] <nalioth> binarydigit: places?
[07:12] <dotchad>  04:15:18 up 16:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.17, 0.05, 0.01
[07:12] <binarydigit> yea
[07:12] <binarydigit> you know where it says Places
[07:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dorto about pastebin
[07:13] <binarydigit> inbetween Applications and System
[07:13] <nalioth> dorto: paste your fstab please
[07:13] <Knowerrors> Is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl down?
[07:13] <dorto> nalioth, k
[07:13] <dotchad> help, i need somebody help
[07:13] <PeteyPablo> !dapper
[07:13] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[07:13] <nalioth> dorto: ask a question, this isn't drama school
[07:14] <NoWhereToTurn> Single mode is already what recovery mode is
[07:14] <mystamax> anyone running ubuntu on VMware?
[07:14] <Linuturk> I got a better question. I need to see if I can get my Broadcom wireless card working in my new laptop?
[07:14] <NoWhereToTurn> It hurls as well
[07:14] <sethk> Linuturk, what chipset?
[07:14] <NoWhereToTurn> still forces me to enter a username
[07:14] <Linuturk> sethk, don't know.
[07:14] <nalioth> Linuturk: the driver will be in dapper
[07:15] <dorto> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6367 <-- my fstab
[07:15] <Goldfisch> Single-user mode doesn't mean no login. It just means basically no networking, so ONLY the console user can log in.
[07:15] <plagerism> I just installed a new SATA drive, and installed Ubuntu Breezy, however now when I burn DVD images, I am only able to burn half the speed that I was able to before from my PATA drive.  Is this a known issue??  Is there anyway to fix this??
[07:15] <TheDracle> twysted: Whew. I am glad I had that backup. The computer is controlling an autonomous laser system. :)
[07:16] <Linuturk> what's the bash command to see what the chipset is?
[07:16] <NoWhereToTurn> Goldfisch then I should get a # prompt correct?
[07:16] <Goldfisch> Single-user mode run init level 1, which runs many fewer booted applications, of which networking is a biggy.
[07:16] <twysted> TheDracle> hehe
[07:16] <nalioth> dorto: which ones are ntfs?
[07:16] <Linuturk> nalioth, how do you know it will be?
[07:16] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn that don't sound right.... but you are the one looking at the box, so i can't argue with you.    single user mode has always used sulogin      at least until ubuntu 5.10 that is.
[07:16] <dorto> nalioth: hda1 and hda5
[07:16] <nalioth> Linuturk: cuz the driver is out now, in source form
[07:16] <TheDracle> twysted: I'll be a bit more careful with flushing my iptables. :)
[07:16] <twysted> NoWhereToTurn> that means your in root mode
[07:16] <coz> hello to most of you
[07:16] <twysted> NoWhereToTurn> aka single user basically
[07:16] <NoWhereToTurn> This is 5.04
[07:17] <intelikey> Goldfisch where is runlevel one not sulogin  ?
[07:17] <PeteyPablo> coz: hello1
[07:17] <dorto> nalioth: i have also tried 'ntfs' in place of 'auto' and 'user', 'users' in place of 'defaults,user'
[07:17] <coz> PeteyPablo hello
[07:17] <NoWhereToTurn> I can not get past the login prompt does not matter how I start Ubuntu up
[07:17] <PeteyPablo> coz: i couldn't help but notice your in pa also :-P
[07:17] <slim> hello all, would anyone be willing to help me with a quick question about configuring WPA in 5.10?
[07:17] <twysted> slim just ask
[07:17] <coz> yes I am
[07:17] <NoWhereToTurn> I always see tht error screen about adm
[07:18] <nalioth> dorto: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6368
[07:18] <coz> where abouts are you PeteyPablo
[07:18] <Linuturk> nalioth, what's the bash command to see what chipset it is?
[07:18] <twysted> coz please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <TheDracle> I am "pretty" sure it is not iptables that is preventing remote access to webmin.
[07:18] <PeteyPablo> coz: i'm in pittsburgh
[07:18] <Goldfisch> intelikey: What I'm saying is that it runs the boot scripts found in /etc/rc1.d, which is akin to init level 1.
[07:18] <nalioth> Linuturk: sudo lshw
[07:18] <slim> I did everything according to the wpa howto, seemed to work great. when I restart though, I have to do a networking restart to get web access
[07:19] <coz> same here I hope everyone low formats their hard drives BEFORE installing ubuntu
[07:19] <TheDracle> I tried setting it to accept ALL connections from my home computer. Still no luck.
[07:19] <twysted> TheDracle> it can be unless you have a funky webmin setup check the conf via ssh
[07:19] <Linuturk> nalioth, lshw? doesn't work
[07:19] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could use this kernel arg at boot,   init=/bin/bash   but you'll have to mount the / manually  and umount it before you exit.
[07:19] <lampshade> anyone here use tightvnc?
[07:19] <nalioth> Linuturk: dosnt work for what?
[07:20] <Linuturk> nalioth, embedded DSL 2.0
[07:20] <TheDracle> twysted: I have "allow=0.0.0.0" in my miniserve.conf. Shouldn't that do the trick?
[07:20] <Dyslexic_Dog> I have a problem trying to do updates on a fresh install can someone point me in the right direction link or something?
[07:20] <nalioth> Linuturk: ah, well this is #ubuntu
[07:21] <slim> so, anyone? :) seems like it could be a problem with what order the services start up...but I did it according the howto so I am at a loss...
[07:21] <dorto> nalioth: did the modification you suggested, i still get the error 'you don't have the permissions...' when i try to access /media/hda5
[07:21] <twysted> TheDracle> hmmm
[07:21] <nalioth> dorto: check your link perms
[07:22] <gunfus> hello
[07:22] <nalioth> dorto: the perms on /media/hda<whatever>
[07:22] <gunfus> I am a newbie in ubuntus.. and I am getting problems installing it
[07:22] <Wilf> is there a command line way to find temperatures of cpu's?
[07:22] <TheDracle> Oh well. I'll keep messing with it. It is not too urgent right now.
[07:22] <Wilf> lmsensors is not installing for me
[07:22] <gunfus> the problems are when trying to install GRUB
[07:22] <dorto> nalioth: dr-x------
[07:23] <Madpilot> Wilf: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[07:23] <Madpilot> ?
[07:23] <nalioth> dorto: make them all readable by all users
[07:23] <dorto> nalioth: only owner can read them, i tried to change those permissions but i was denied
[07:23] <Wilf> have now :P
[07:23] <TheDracle> I need to be heading off to the midnight showing of "Brokeback Mountain" with my wife. Thanks anyway.
[07:23] <dorto> nalioth: chmod and chown both give me the error: file system read only
[07:23] <intelikey> Goldfisch ls /etc/rc1.d  | grep S         the init script  single is supposed to call sulogin  which logs in root automaticly
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> [00:20]  <Linuturk> nalioth, lshw? doesn't work
[07:23] <nalioth> dorto: use sudo (from console) to change them
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> [00:20]  <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could use
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> oops
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> [00:20]  <Linuturk> nalioth, lshw? doesn't work
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> [00:20]  <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you could use
[07:23] <NoWhereToTurn> geez
[07:23] <gunfus> has anyone experienced problems installing GRUB?
[07:24] <gerald-volt> gunfus: no
[07:24] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: what are you trying to do?
[07:24] <dorto> nalioth: yeah, i used sudo, but get this error: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hda1': Read-only file system
[07:24] <gerald-volt> gunfus: I thought it installs it automatically for you
[07:24] <NoWhereToTurn> the init- parma is that in addition to the info that is already in the line for the recovery mode?
[07:24] <slim> anyone here smart on wpa configuration (specifically making sure wpasupplicant starts up before networking)
[07:24] <dorto> nalioth: the cmd i used : sudo chmod +r /media/hda?
[07:24] <Wilf> thanks Madpilot :>
[07:24] <nalioth> dorto: try the perms in /dev/hda1
[07:24] <Madpilot> Wilf: np
[07:24] <sethk> NoWhereToTurn, I just checked, and lshw works just fine for me
[07:24] <nalioth> dorto: no. those are not the ones
[07:25] <gunfus> gerald-volt, it does install it automaticly.. but it hangs everytime..
[07:25] <intelikey> init=/bin/bash    and it is the emergency 'back door' to your system.
[07:25] <twysted> TheDracle> id try putting a * in it just incase if all else fails it just wont work anyways lol
[07:25] <NoWhereToTurn> lshw???
[07:25] <Goldfisch> intelikey: Okay, I found that in /etc/inittab. It has sulogin to be executed in case you go to single-user mode.
[07:25] <AdmiralCrunch> alright, so is anyone here on the 2.6.12?
[07:25] <NoWhereToTurn> This is 5.04 of Ubuntu
[07:25] <nalioth> NoWhereToTurn: sudo lshw will show you all about your system
[07:25] <dorto> nalioth: perm for /dev/hda1: brw-rw----  1 root disk 3, 1 2005-12-30 16:37 /dev/hda1
[07:25] <twysted> intelikey> why are you making it as hard as you can for that guy to login as root in single user mode? lol
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> alright, so is anyone here on the 2.6.12 the kernel that is?
[07:26] <intelikey> twysted what ?
[07:26] <NoWhereToTurn> In order to issue the sudo lshw command aI have to get rid of this login prompt that I can not get past
[07:26] <nalioth> dorto: i'm at a loss atm, i'm tired and need sleep. there are others who can help you with these perms
[07:26] <nurfe> Can anybody help me with fixing a peice of source of the AR5k.C for Atheros Regin ID Fixes?
[07:26] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: 2.6.12 is Breezy's standard kernel, AFAIK
[07:27] <dorto> nalioth: ok, thank you very much for bearing with me :) sleep well.
[07:27] <nalioth> dorto: you have the correct fstab
[07:27] <dorto> k
[07:27] <nalioth> dorto: it's a local perms problem now, i suspect
[07:27] <dorto> k
[07:27] <dorto> i need to investigate all the perm then
[07:27] <AdmiralCrunch> Madpilot could you do me a big favor and run a menuconfig to see if it supports a PROMISE SATAII150 TX4 PCI SATA Controller Card? My friend really needs some help
[07:28] <intelikey> twysted i suspect foul play in the init scripts on his box he says booting to single gives a login prompt.   and having no root password and user accounts borked; what would you sujest ?
[07:28] <cafuego> AdmiralCrunch: It does, they're obiquitous.
[07:29] <AdmiralCrunch> cafuego thank you
[07:29] <twysted> intelikey> if he uses the failsafe it should just throw him into the root user not a login prompt
[07:30] <cafuego> AdmiralCrunch: Mind you, that's from memory, not from actually checking the config.
[07:30] <slim> anyone for a wpa question  ? :)
[07:30] <twysted> intelikey>  i would suggest booting off of the live cd
[07:30] <AdmiralCrunch> cafuego well, are you at least pretty sure on that one?
[07:30] <cafuego> AdmiralCrunch: yes
[07:30] <twysted> and setup his drive so he can go in and fix the users and scripts
[07:30] <AdmiralCrunch> cafuego alright, cool
[07:30] <intelikey> twysted that assumes a live cd on hand.  :)
[07:31] <twysted> intelikey>  install cd works as well ;)
[07:31] <intelikey> yes but no better than init=/bin/bash   lol
[07:31] <Hoxzer_> lol xine seem not to play subs anymore :D
[07:31] <Hoxzer_> like "..."
[07:31] <NoWhereToTurn> well it looks liek that is all she wrote for ubuntu here
[07:31] <Hoxzer_> haven't changed anything
[07:33] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you can boot a cd ?
[07:33] <Mabus06> How do I get a second desktop on my TV with s-video?
[07:34] <tritium> Mabus06, nvidia?
[07:34] <Mabus06> ATI
[07:34] <slim> anyone willing to answer a wpa question?
[07:34] <NoWhereToTurn> inetllikey probably will have to dig a live cd from one of the distros here
[07:35] <tritium> !tell slim about ask
[07:36] <slim> kind of hard to put the question in one line :)
[07:36] <twysted> slim just ask ;)
[07:36] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you can work on passwords and user accounts from the cd with the  chroot  command    if you want to try that way to fix it.     "and i note this as a classic example of why the root password should be set"
[07:37] <sethk> intelikey, yes, quite true.
[07:37] <slim> I did.. a ways back and no one answered. I realize there is a certain etiquette, and I am trying to be polite. :)
[07:37] <_ian_> how come people from undernet in #ubuntu channel speak other languages?
[07:37] <PeteyPablo> i'm trying to run a program and i get this error: ./zds: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:37] <PeteyPablo>  -- i have the c++ files installed any ideas?
[07:37] <sethk> slim, people come and go a lot.  It is ok to ask again after a reasonable amount of time.
[07:38] <sethk> _ian_, because they live in other countries?
[07:38] <_ian_> i dont know...perhaps yes but how about the people who want to ask for help that cant under stand em? hehe
[07:38] <sethk> PeteyPablo, try changing your LD_LIBRARY_PATH in a terminal window and running it.
[07:38] <sethk> PeteyPablo, if that works you can muck around with your ld.so configuration
[07:38] <PeteyPablo> sethk: how do i go about with that?
[07:39] <sethk> PeteyPablo, just:    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/directorywith/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:39] <slim> ok: I set up WPA on my laptop according to the howto in the ubuntu forums. It seemed to work well, but when I rebooted, I had to restart networking in order to actually get web access. Otherwise the browswer times out trying to retrieve a page.
[07:39] <sethk> PeteyPablo, like any other path, only this one is for shared libraries
[07:39] <Sturgeon> That assuming he does have that library
[07:39] <sethk> Sturgeon, I think he said he has it.
[07:39] <PeteyPablo> sethk: so do i just paste this in terminal?  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/directorywith/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:39] <Sturgeon> oh right
[07:39] <Goldfisch> He could type locate libstdc+-libc6.1-1.so.2, and see it the file is on his system.
[07:40] <sethk> PeteyPablo, no, because you replace "directorywith..." with a real directory name
[07:40] <sethk> PeteyPablo, I don't know what directory the file is in on your system
[07:40] <Goldfisch> !locate
[07:40] <ubotu> Goldfisch: What?
[07:40] <PeteyPablo> when i do locate nothing happens.
[07:41] <sethk> PeteyPablo, that is not true.  when you do locate, your system queries your file database and finds all occurances of whatever you told it to locate
[07:41] <intelikey> also the export command will be looking for =  not  :    methinks
[07:41] <PeteyPablo> sethk: i mean i just did it and nothing happend
[07:41] <intelikey> ah nm my bad
[07:41] <Goldfisch> !locate
[07:41] <ubotu> locate is probably a tool to find files located on your system. 'locate bash' for example will find the location of your file.
[07:41] <PeteyPablo> pete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$ locate libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:41] <PeteyPablo> pete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$
[07:41] <intelikey> time to clean my glasses
[07:41] <sethk> PeteyPablo, I know, but that's not true.  the fact that there was no output indicates that either (1) it isn't there or (2) you have to run updatedb
[07:42] <Goldfisch> sudo updatedb
[07:42] <dorto> whatever we download and install through apt-get/synaptic, does ubuntu keep a copy of packages somewhere which i can copy to the media so that i don't have to download from internet next time?
[07:42] <sethk> PeteyPablo, by your own paste, it isn't true that nothing happened.  At the very least, it typed  pete@LinuxBox:~/Desktop/zds$
[07:42] <QMario> Is the channel okay now?
[07:42] <sethk> intelikey, I thought I had an = there
[07:42] <sethk> QMario, that's a question like "is anybody here?"
[07:42] <PeteyPablo> sethk: that was just the directory i was in
[07:42] <Goldfisch> dorto: Well, the stuff gets pulled down to /var/cache/apt.
 ah nm my bad
[07:42] <sethk> PeteyPablo, I know that
[07:43] <QMario> Sethk, huh?
[07:43] <sword-> whats up
[07:43] <sword-> hey
[07:43] <sethk> PeteyPablo, if you installed the library recently it might not show up yet with locate
[07:43] <dorto> Goldfisch: i can just copy everything from apt directory to my dvds?
[07:43] <sword-> any of you have an rca lyra?
[07:43] <sethk> QMario, if the channel weren't ok, nobody could tell you that
[07:43] <PeteyPablo> sethk: was not recently, i did sudo updatedb did locate again still nothing
[07:43] <QMario> Sethk, true. ;)
[07:43] <sethk> PeteyPablo, ok
[07:43] <dorto> Goldfisch: or just some specific files from there?
[07:43] <sethk> PeteyPablo, then it isn't there, even though you said it is.
[07:43] <QMario> Will Ubuntu support Blu-Ray Discs and Drives?
[07:43] <Hoxzer_> how do I change the size of subtitles in mplayer?
[07:44] <PeteyPablo> sethk: i just mean i have the libraries installed, i tried to apt-get them and it said i had the newest ver already..
[07:44] <sethk> PeteyPablo, you may be able to fool it with a sym link, but I suspect maybe you have a more serious problem.
[07:44] <sethk> PeteyPablo, it isn't looking for the newest version, which is your problem
[07:44] <sethk> PeteyPablo, you have to install the version it is looking for
[07:44] <Goldfisch> dorto: I keep a backup list of what packages are currently installed --> dpkg --get-selections > /mypackages.txt
[07:44] <PeteyPablo> sethk: ok.. how do i do that?
[07:44] <sethk> PeteyPablo, which can coexist with the newest version
[07:44] <sethk> PeteyPablo, if it isn't in the repositories, you'll have to google for it.
[07:44] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey I used to have a Ubuntu lIve CD but the only ones I can find are Knoppix ones
[07:44] <Goldfisch> dorto: That way, I know what to reinstall next time. That way, I will be installing the updated releases for those packages as well.
[07:44] <PeteyPablo> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:44] <ara> i have installed Java on my system but i still can't view java based websites, what's wrong?
[07:45] <PeteyPablo> is that what i need?
[07:45] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn that should work
[07:45] <ilba7r> !ndiswrapper
[07:45] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:46] <PeteyPablo> sethk: i found an rpm for it, can i use alien?
[07:46] <dorto> Goldfisch: oh, nice way. thank you.
[07:46] <sethk> PeteyPablo, I'm not sure, I don't use alien.  dpkg is fine.  possibly alien is fine, but I don't know.
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> ara: It probably isn't registered as a plugin with your browser.
[07:47] <ara> tonyyarusso, how do i do it?
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: I'm trying to remember.
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: How did you install Java?  (debs or compile yourself?)
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> ara: What browser are you using?
[07:48] <ara> firefox
[07:48] <GoRoDeK> how do i get the version number of an installed package?
[07:49] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey booted up the cd
[07:49] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn do you have the hard drive partition with ubuntu on it mounted some place that you can find ?
[07:49] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: didn't work
[07:49] <gerald-volt> anyone know what package I need to install to fix this problem
[07:49] <gerald-volt> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:50] <intelikey> PeteyPablo what didn't work ?
[07:50] <ara> tonyyarusso, did you remember?
[07:50] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: converting to .deb, the conversion worked but then the .deb was unusable
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> ara: Yeah, I think I got it.  But I need to know your Java version and where you got it from to point you to the right directories.
[07:50] <Mabus06> How do I get a second desktop on my TV with s-video?
[07:50] <intelikey> PeteyPablo that was someone else.
[07:50] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey .. ya have it open in the browser in Knoppix
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[08:13] (intelikey/#ubuntu) NoWhereToTurn but is it the ubuntu root on the hdd or the knoppix root in ram  ?
[08:13] (ara/#ubuntu) pl_ice i already check synaptic
[08:13] (NoWhereToTurn/#ubuntu) ya
[08:14] (tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) ara: Chances are that doing it through Synaptic will automatically load the plugin for Firefox too.
[08:14] (humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: you'll need to add an entry such as this:
[08:14] (intelikey/#ubuntu) see that is what chroot does. it ch(anges)root(/)
[08:14] (humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: /dev/sda2       /mnt/music      ntfs    noauto,user,ro  0       0
[08:14] (pl_ice/#ubuntu) ara there is a file : /etc/apt/sources.list where u add stuff so u can download more packages from synaptic, u have to unblock it ..
[08:14] (NoWhereToTurn/#ubuntu) NoWhereToTurn but is it the ubuntu root on the hdd or the knoppix root in ram  ? <-- on hd
[08:14] (tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice: If he had it installed and we could figure out where, it's a matter of placing a symlink in the firefox directory.
[08:15] (tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice, Unblock?  What does that mean?
[08:15] (humbraro/#ubuntu) annibis: but make sure the /dev/? and /mnt/? are accurate for your system
[08:15] (pl_ice/#ubuntu) tonyyarusso he's got any log files? ...
[08:15] (annibis/#ubuntu) ok
[08:15] (intelikey/#ubuntu) ok then if root owns /etc/passwd  and /etc/shadow  you should only run passwd
[08:15] (annibis/#ubuntu) but its not a ntfs drive
[08:15] (QMario/#ubuntu) How do I get the library file, "qt-mt"?
[08:15] (tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) ara: If you aren't comfortable with text files, Synaptic has an Add Sources tool built in too.
[08:15] (annibis/#ubuntu) its just a slave for ubuntu
[08:15] (intelikey/#ubuntu) and reboot NoWhereToTurn
[08:15] (ara/#ubuntu) pl_ice: ok its giving me like 100 options , which one   should i choose?
[08:15] (tonyyarusso/#ubuntu) pl_ice, Not that I know of yet.
[08:15] <humbraro> O, well thats different - for some reason I thought it was....
[08:16] <humbraro> what type of filesystem is it?
[08:16] <annibis> ext3
[08:16] <humbraro> same line then, just replace ntfs with ext3
[08:16] <annibis> ok
[08:16] <annibis> thnks
[08:17] <slide> How can i see how much memory I have?
[08:17] <NoWhereToTurn> ok rebooting now intelikey
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> ara: Do your search for j2re instead of java to narrow the results list.
[08:17] <intelikey> free slide
[08:17] <Goldfisch> slide: top lists memory at the top
[08:17] <Motoko-chan> free in console
[08:17] <humbraro> then you should be able to type "mount /dev/music"
[08:17] <slide> ty :)
[08:17] <pl_ice> ara that's what my looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6370, adding dodgy links there will break things ...
[08:17] <PeteyPablo> can anyone help me with a bad dynamic library load path?
[08:17] <annibis> ive already mounted it
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> ara: If you have multiverse enabled, you'll see 1.4, and if you added the PLF repo, you'll also see sun-1.5.
[08:18] <ara> tonyyaruso: yeah i have it enabled
[08:18] <nekostar> anyone know about making ASS softsubs work in linux?
[08:18] <intelikey> slide don't be missled, free does not show the real free ram but the un-allocated ram.  part of the used ram it shows is only allocated out but not used.
[08:18] <nekostar> mplayer/vlc FAIL
[08:18] <pl_ice> have fun :) i'm off to buy more laptop parts :D
[08:18] <humbraro> annibis: umount then mount again then, see if it makes a difference
[08:19] <annibis> ok
[08:19] <PeteyPablo> can anyone help me with a bad dynamic library load path?
[08:19] <slim> hello all, got bumped, hope no one tried to answer my wpa question while I was gone..but now that I am here again :)
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> ara: So are you seeing it in your list yet?
[08:19] <Motoko-chan> Please ask
[08:19] <intelikey> PeteyPablo have you installed the library yet ?
[08:20] <ara> tonyyaruso: yeah i just installed it , let me see if it works
[08:20] <NoWhereToTurn> Thank goodness it worked intelikey
[08:20] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i can't find it :-((((
[08:20] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn of course it worked.
[08:20] <slim> wpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay.
[08:20] <QMario> If I install the KDE Library on my computer, nothing will happen to it,  right?
[08:21] <ara> tonyyaruso: no it doesn't work my friend
[08:21] <Sturgeon> QMario: It will happen something.
[08:21] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you probably still can't login to gnome yet?
[08:21] <Sturgeon> QMario: It will then have KDE.
[08:21] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: all i can find are .rpms
[08:21] <Motoko-chan> Well, it will probably install.
[08:21] <QMario> Sturgeon, really?
[08:21] <Sturgeon> With high probability, yes.
[08:21] <Goldfisch> Sturgeon: lol
[08:21] <QMario> Sturgeon, but I only installed the kdelibs, will it crash?
[08:21] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey no was able to login using another user accoutn
[08:22] <Sturgeon> QMario: Why would it crash?
[08:22] <humbraro> annibis: looking back at your original question - is it all the directories on the drive that are owned by root?  Those can be changed easily
[08:22] <intelikey> PeteyPablo enable the extended repositories (universe & multiverse)  and find it with apt-cache search <name>
[08:22] <QMario> Strugeon, can GNOME and KDE coexist without problems?
[08:22] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i have them enabled it doesn't have the one i need
[08:22] <intelikey> !ubotu tell PeteyPablo about repos
[08:22] <Sturgeon> QMario: yes
[08:22] <QMario> Have you done it?
[08:22] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i have them, it doesnt have the version i need i guess
[08:22] <intelikey> ok
[08:23] <annibis> yes
[08:23] <calamari> is it possible to determine how many inodes I will need to store some files?
[08:23] <ara> tonyyaruso: do i need a reboot?
[08:23] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey.. thanks again for all the help and sticking with me
[08:23] <Sturgeon> QMario: yes. You'll find info about that in the docs
[08:23] <annibis> the whole drive is owned by root
[08:23] <QMario> Annibis, were you answering me?
[08:23] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn good then you have only to add the new user account to the sudoers file and badabing you're fixed.
[08:23] <annibis> no
[08:23] <humbraro> in that case, "cd /path/to/drive"
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> ara: No.
[08:24] <NoWhereToTurn> account to the sudoers file ??
[08:24] <annibis> woulnt that be cd hdb1/
[08:24] <humbraro> then "sudo chown -R user:group ./*"
[08:25] <humbraro> DO NOT forget to put that leading dot in front of the slash
[08:25] <GnarlyBob> sudo rm -rf / ?
[08:25] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn only if you want the user to be able to use sudo.   not needed on a system that has the root password set really.
[08:25] <annibis> whats the commad to cd to that drive
[08:25] <QMario> Sturgeon, where do I get the KDE Headers from?
[08:25] <GnarlyBob> (by the way, if you haven't figured it out, don't take my advice)
[08:25] <annibis> the path to it
[08:25] <humbraro> well, it depends on where you mounted it
[08:25] <annibis> in dev its hdb1 in mnt its F
[08:25] <Sturgeon> QMario: you can use synaptic to install kde
[08:26] <humbraro> a drive is just a drive, you have to mount a filesystem on the drive somewhere in your system, then go there and change ownership of the files there
[08:26] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn reason i mentioned it, your user probably can't run synaptic or other system apps.
[08:26] <tritium> GnarlyBob, please don't even joke that way
[08:26] <GnarlyBob> Hey, we used to do exactly such things, and people often followed the advice, in the really old days of #linux
[08:26] <QMario> Sturgeon, will I still be able to use GNOME?
[08:27] <Sturgeon> QMario: YES!
[08:27] <Ferris_B> evening all
[08:27] <QMario> Sturgeon, I can't be too careful. ;)
[08:27] <ara> tonyyaruso: ok i located the j2re file
[08:27] <slim> wpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?
[08:27] <plagerism> Anyone know much about SATA drives?  I am currently finding that burning from my SATA drive to my PATA dvd burner, is slower than when I was burning from my PATA drive to the same dvd burner? Anyone experiencing similar problems?? Or know of a solution?
[08:27] <QMario> Sturgeon, sorry for the hassle. :'(
[08:28] <Ferris_B> I apt-get installed apache2, as well as php5, but when I attempt to view phpinfo.php, apache just sends it to me as a download. Any ideas?
[08:28] <intelikey> QMario you can have ALL the linux desktop/window managers  installed at once.  but only run one at a time.  :)
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> ara: You mean in /usr/lib now?  (And have you tested Firefox to see if it did it automatically?)
[08:28] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: what do i do :-(
[08:28] <Ferris_B> I also managed to nuke the /etc/init.d/apache2 file, amd reinstalling apache doesn't bring it back
[08:28] <QMario> Intelikey, I just want the KDE Headers.
[08:28] <plagerism> I have read a lot of posts saying that removing ide_generic from the kernel(allowing libata to handle the burner) may help, but nothing definative
[08:28] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: What about the apache-php5 library that joins them together?
[08:28] <annibis> humbaro, it gives me an error
[08:29] <QMario> Intelikey,  "you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed".
[08:29] <Ferris_B> is that the mod php one?
[08:29] <annibis> user:group invlalid user
[08:29] <humbraro> ok, the username should be a real username, and the group should be a real group
[08:29] <ara> tonyyaruso: no , not there, it's in the folder on my desktop
[08:29] <humbraro> a good place to start would be with your username and default group
[08:30] <intelikey> QMario apt-get kde-devel   i think
[08:30] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[08:30] <mebaran151> hey
[08:30] <annibis> so like annibis:default
[08:30] <mebaran151> I can't seem to get Kopete to work as I'd like in Kubuntu
[08:30] <humbraro> such as chown annibis:users or annibis:annibis
[08:30] <calamari> hmm.. is ext2 less efficient than fat?  trying to fit some files on an ext2 floppy that fit on a fat one, but can't seem to
[08:30] <mebaran151> it won't automagically do the tabbing for me
[08:30] <annibis> ok
[08:30] <mebaran151> despite the number of times I select the option
[08:30] <Ferris_B> yes, libapache2-mod-php is installed
[08:30] <ara> tonyyaruso: should i move it to /usr/lib ????
[08:31] <humbraro> annibis: if you type "ls -l ~" you'll get your username and group listed on all the files there
[08:31] <annibis> humbaro, it works now thanks for your help
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> ara: Are you trying to tell me that installing with Synaptic somehow places things on your desktop??
[08:31] <humbraro> cool, glad to help
[08:32] <QMario> Intelikey, so how will I tell Ubuntu to run GNOME, not KDE?
[08:32] <ara> tonyyaruso:  no, this is the one which i installed it manually , myself
[08:32] <intelikey> humbraro no,  add -A to that
[08:32] <ilba7r> hi i have installed ndiswrapper the driver is present, hardware present and after configuring it and bringing it up i can not ping my router. Any udeas?
[08:32] <Ferris_B> I'd really like to just remove all the apache/php stuff completely and reinstall, but whenever I apt-get remive and then reinstall, it seems a lot of files still linger. How does one completely remove them?
[08:32] <humbraro> intelikey: ls -a just shows hidden files, -l shows more than just names
[08:32] <ara> tonyyaruso: i did with synaptic too, but it still won't work
[08:32] <QMario> Intelikey?
[08:32] <Sturgeon> QMario: You can choose when you start the session
[08:32] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: dpkg -P <pkg> <--- purge everything including config files
[08:32] <Sturgeon> if you're using KDE or Gnome
[08:32] <intelikey> you wont have too QMario
[08:32] <Ferris_B> ahhh
[08:33] <intelikey> it will load gnome
[08:33] <slim> dir
[08:33] <ilba7r> iwlist scan work fine but can not ping the router although i disabled all securties on it :(
[08:33] <mebaran151> oh
[08:33] <ara> tonyyaruso: do this j2re file need to be in /usr/lib???
[08:33] <ilba7r> it used to work with hoary now it isn't with breezy :(
[08:33] <mebaran151> how can I configure which menu items appear in either KDE or Gnome's menus?
[08:33] <senectus> whats the command for viewing a log in real time.. so as stuff hit it you get that on the screen?
[08:33] <mebaran151> I'd like to put the KDE stuff with KDE and Gnome's in Gnome
[08:33] <Goldfisch> senectus: tail -f <foobar>
[08:33] <ilba7r> mebaran just left click on the menu with the mouse
[08:33] <ilba7r> or type smeg in a terminal
[08:34] <intelikey> unless you install kdebase QMario it will surely load gnome by default.   and if you install full kde it will let you choose which desktop to load when you log in.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> ara: There should be a j2re-something directory in /usr/lib is it was actually installed by anything.  So you say you did Synaptic too?  Where'd that go then?
[08:34] <senectus> Goldfisch, thanks..
[08:35] <senectus> which log file is it in apache2 that logs website hits?
[08:35] <Goldfisch> senectus: I believe /var/log/apache/access.log
[08:35] <slim> wpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?
[08:35] <intelikey> back to humbraro,  yes i like  ls -lAsh ~    my self.
[08:35] <GnarlyBob> is there a repository that might have firefox 1.5?
[08:36] <Goldfisch> senectus: Err.../var/log/apache2/access.log
[08:36] <Inf3ctedFx> GnarlyBob: let me give ua guidfe u can install Firefox from the installer
[08:36] <Goldfisch> My fingers don't have the muscle-memory to add the extra "2" onto every pathname now needed for apache2.
[08:36] <ara> tonyyaruso: it's jvm, and there are some java files  and folders inside
[08:36] <senectus> Goldfisch, my access.log is utterly empty  and hitting the site adds nothing to it
[08:37] <Inf3ctedFx> Goldfisch: here u have -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:37] <ara> tonyyaruso: there's also jre folder in there
[08:37] <Inf3ctedFx> i used it and it works just fine 4 me
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: thank you knindly
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> kindly too
[08:38] <intelikey> echo 'alias l="ls -lAsh"' >> ~.bashrc
[08:38] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p Goldfisch
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> might want to work on your nick completion btw ;)
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, look in the jre for plugin/
[08:39] <Goldfisch> senectus: Make sure you are freshly hitting the web site, and not your browser's cache. Do a Ctrl-F5.
[08:39] <Goldfisch> senectus: My access.log is filled with traffic from hitting my wiki web site.
[08:39] <MonoJ0ker> i'm getting a fatal error when i try to run tightvncserver - could not open default font 'fixed' - anyone know what is borked?
[08:40] <senectus> Goldfisch, hmm that changed nothing..
[08:40] <Alltaken> i am trying to download themes, but what is the difference between GDM, matacity, GTK.... makes no sense to me
[08:40] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Yes. I ran into that issue. There is a font file that is missing a space. It breaks the whole thing. I can't remember which file, but it is like a one-line edit.
[08:40] <w4f7z> anyone know where i can get firefox 1.5 resoprosities
[08:41] <intelikey> has it made the repos yet ?
[08:41] <w4f7z> im asumeing that i need some 3rd party one
[08:41] <humbraro> not in repos when i checked earlier
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, intelikey: I don't think so.
[08:41] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?
[08:41] <MonoJ0ker> Goldfisch: bummer i can't find the name of the file on google either :(
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, I got it from the mozilla site and installed on my own.
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, Used these instructions:
[08:42] <EpP> hey
[08:42] <intelikey> na i didn't think it was...
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> !tell w4f7z about firefox15
[08:42] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Give me a second. I remember reading about it there....
[08:42] <intelikey> there was a wiki on it tho
[08:42] <EpP> how is everyone?
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> ara: Status report?
[08:42] <intelikey> EpP houngry..... bbiab
[08:42] <w4f7z> tonyyarusso, yeah i did that, but some of my plugins and configs are tweeked cuz i still have 1.0.7 (or w/e) installed
[08:43] <EpP> sup
[08:43] <w4f7z> yo
[08:43] <ara> tonyyarusso: there is no plugin folder, there are some folders in there but no plunin
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, Right.
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, to limit confusion, I want you to tell me full paths for the places we're talking about.  Along with exactly what you installed with Synaptic.
[08:44] <ara> tonyyarusso: shouldn't this j2re file be moved to mozilla-firefox plugin folder?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: No.
[08:44] <humbraro> the adblock extension on 1.5 is cool - it autoupdates the filter
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: If we can find what we want, we'll be putting a symlink to it there.
[08:44] <GnarlyBob> I couldn't get adblock working in 1.5 on windoze, about to try it on linux
[08:45] <ara> tonyyarusso: i installed java 1.4
[08:45] <ara> tonyyarusso: with synaptic
[08:45] <humbraro> worked fine for me on a windoze box yesterday
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay.
[08:45] <humbraro> but thats windows - inconsistant at best
[08:46] <ara> tonyyarusso: and the path is /usr/lib/jvm/
[08:46] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey ppl I have a question, if I have a 60 Gi HDD slave on my box, can I install linux on that one then make it run without change the boot system on my Bios?
[08:46] <ara> tonyyarusso: and there's no plugin folder in there
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: Do you have a /usr/lib/j2se? (With an S instead of an R?)
[08:47] <Inf3ctedFx> ara: whats the proble ur Java?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: (That's a difference between the 1.5 and 1.4, I had thought you were still trying 1.5)
[08:47] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: the short answer is yes
[08:47] <Mitrovarr> how do I set the cc environment variable?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, So far, it's lost.
[08:47] <Inf3ctedFx> humbraro:  how?
[08:47] <marccd> how can I add a user to a group?
[08:47] <Nikusan> When I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".
[08:47] <Nikusan> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[08:48] <marccd> Mitrovarr: CC=whaver
[08:48] <Inf3ctedFx> tonyyarusso:  is ara  using or updating to firefox 1.5?
[08:48] <ara> tonyyarusso: no i don't have such a folder like that
[08:48] <marccd> Mitrovarr: or export CC=whatever
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, Not to my knowledge.
[08:48] <Inf3ctedFx> because I had the same problem b4, but now is working just fine
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> ara: Uhh, okay...
[08:48] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: its not the safest thing in the world, but you can install $bootloader on your primary drive, which allows you to boot other drives
[08:48] <Mitrovarr> I tried that but the NVIDIA installer won't accept that, it still complains about having the wrong compiler
[08:49] <Inf3ctedFx> humbraro: why u say is not the safest thing?
[08:49] <ilba7r_> ara you can see what sympolic link you are using type which java , If it is in /usr/bin type ls -l /usr/bin/java , the output will tell you where your files are
[08:49] <Inf3ctedFx> well ara  or tonyyarusso  if is anything that I can help, let me know
[08:49] <MonoJ0ker> ok i've tried a fix in the config
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> now when i type it from the kommand window it says:
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Creating default startup script /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Starting applications specified in /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Log file is /home/liam/.vnc/ross:1.log
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> is it running now?
[08:50] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: you might have to overwrite the bootloader thats already on that drive - do you have a windows install on your primary drive?
[08:50] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated
[08:50] <intelikey> marccd  man usermod
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Channel: Please confirm: Installing j2re1.4 (Blackdown Java) from Breezy Multiverse should create a directory /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/<architecture>/mozilla/?
[08:51] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Can you tell me what exact font it is breaking on? Is it misc, 100dpi, 75dpi, what?
[08:51] <Inf3ctedFx> well yes humbraro right now my master hdd is 200 gig, and I have 100 win, and 100 linux but also I have 2 slave 60 gig each.. so I want to know if I use one of those slave just linux, can I boot from there right?
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> i think it's ok
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> i see xtightvnc running in the process table
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> so i should be right?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, ^^ for how you can help.
[08:52] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Well, give it a whirl.
[08:52] <ara> tonyyarusso: so what's next?
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> but i don't know how to find out the ip on here :(
[08:52] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: yup, just make the partition you install to bootable, then add an entry in your bootloader for that partition (sdb1, or whatever)
[08:52] <Inf3ctedFx> well I dont know tonyyarusso  with ara  problemm with some website with info
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> sorry i've been using kubuntu (and linux) for all of about 2 hours now
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> total n00b
[08:52] <cafuego> MonoJ0ker: run 'ifconfig'
[08:53] <ilba7r_> tonyyarusso, ara easiest open synaptic type java and look for the installed files you have
[08:53] <Mitrovarr> ah, the proper command was export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> ara: Finding your installation folder for Java, since we have yet to succeed.
[08:53] <cafuego> MonoJ0ker: if you need the IP for remote access, lynx http://www.cc.com.au/ip.php
[08:53] <Inf3ctedFx> MonoJ0ker:  open terminal and type "ifconfig"
[08:53] <ara> ok let me check
[08:53] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: you'll have to ask someone else for help if your using grub though, i'm still hanging on to lilo
[08:54] <ilba7r_> ara it is in properties
[08:54] <Inf3ctedFx> ok humbraro  thas ok man.. anyway I think 100 gig is better than 60 on another drive xD
[08:55] <ilba7r_> seems this laptop will never have wireless to fly:(
[08:56] <ara> i have like 30 packages of java installed, i can't type all of them here, which one should i have?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> ara: j2re1.4
[08:57] <PeteyPablo> 1.5 runs alot smoother
[08:57] <Mitrovarr> is there any good way to get multi-monitor support going without hand editing the xorg.conf?
[08:58] <ara> tonyyarusso: i don't even have a package with that name in the list
[08:58] <cafuego> Seveas: You awake?
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  how many monitors r u going to use?
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then what did you install??
[08:58] <Mitrovarr> 2
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> 2 video cards?
[08:58] <Mitrovarr> no, one two-header
[08:58] <ara> tonyyarusso: it was java 1.4
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  cuz I have the same problem b4
[08:59] <youngcoder> anyone here use Dalnet?
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I did it with 2 video cars
[08:59] <nekostar> ive been trying to install ubuntu on a 600mhz celeron 128mb ram driven dell laptop [inspirion 4000]  and it hangs on the kernel install
[08:59] <ara> tonyyarusso: that's what it told me
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> but let me give u a guide here
[08:59] <nekostar> any clues why it would do that?
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on
[08:59] <nekostar> i even gave it like an hour
[08:59] <cafuego> nekostar: 'Dell' is a large clue. ;-)
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> ara: What was the package name?
[08:59] <Mitrovarr> well it can be done with hand-editing xorg.conf but I was hoping some nice shiny tool existed to make it less of a PITA
[08:59] <nekostar> . . .
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> ara: What is 'it' that told you?
[08:59] <nekostar> so mean !_!
[08:59] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Is in windows...
[08:59] <cafuego> nekostar: Anything logged on terminals 2 through 4?
[08:59] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Its in windows...
[08:59] <ara> tonyyarusso: synaptic
[08:59] <nekostar> locks up actually heh
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> ara: How did it tell you?
[09:00] <EpP> whats a good free shell site?
[09:00] <cafuego> nekostar: I have a 500MHz celeron 128Mb dell craptop, I can mock them if I want to! :-)
[09:00] <nekostar> didnt see anything on the terminals either..
[09:00] <gerald-volt> WeBDsIgNNeR - is your windows FS ntfs?
[09:00] <nekostar> LOL fair enough
[09:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  here u go --> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[09:00] <WeBDsIgNNeR> [gerald-volt] : yes
[09:00] <nekostar> besides ur right :P
[09:00] <gerald-volt> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:00] <ara> tonyyarusso: how do i get that file in my list?
[09:00] <Fanskapet> ara: uhm? ssh IP, nano /text/file.txt
[09:00] <Nikusan> When I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".
[09:00] <Nikusan>  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[09:00] <cafuego> nekostar: THough I must admit that when in the dock it makes a fantabulous Edubuntu LTSP client.
[09:01] <nekostar> ltsp?
[09:01] <nekostar> whats that?
[09:01] <nekostar> and i dont have a dock
[09:01] <Mitrovarr> thanks
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> ara: You enable multiverse, which you previously claimed was already done.
[09:01] <cafuego> nekostar: The joy of admins worldwide :-)
[09:01] <cafuego> !ltsp
[09:01] <ubotu> ltsp is, like, when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server.
[09:01] <nekostar> i just want it to watch anime on a big creen on the go
[09:01] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  I use this one even with dual head, is for Gentoo but also work perfect with Ubuntu  --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[09:01] <nekostar> that didnt say much lol
[09:01] <Mitrovarr> I do wish someone would make a good tool for multi-monitor though, it's annoying to have to hand-edit things every time I want to turn it on/off
[09:01] <nekostar> like a thin client?
[09:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  is really EASY.. I spend maybe 4 days trying to make it work but when I found these HOWTO I see is really easy
[09:02] <nekostar> Mitrovarr, you can
[09:02] <nekostar> make a null multimode
[09:02] <nekostar> what vid card do you have
[09:02] <N6REJ> I'm having a problem with a LVM partition.  its set as root ownership and I can't change it even as root.
[09:02] <ara> tonyyarusso: i think i've done it , i was reading on one of the ubuntu help sites and i think i've done it
[09:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  let me c ur xorg and I'll show u what do u need to add
[09:02] <Mitrovarr> geforce 6600 gt
[09:02] <humbraro> nekostar: check out ltsp.org - brings new life to all those old crappy machines you have lying around
[09:03] <ara> tonyyarusso: how do i double check?
[09:03] <nekostar> awesome thanx humbraro
[09:03] <Mitrovarr> um, it's on a different computer
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: Tell me what you did.
[09:03] <Mitrovarr> I can do the hand-editing actually.  I was just hoping someone would know of a tool.
[09:03] <nekostar> i assume u mean dual or better monitors and turning off and on
[09:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok Mitrovarr  but I'm 100% sure it will work 4 u those howto
[09:03] <N6REJ> humbraro, how much does it slow down the machine its booting off of?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then, in Synaptic, "Reload", and search for j2re again.
[09:03] <nekostar> yes im gonna give you a line to put in xorg
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: When it shows up in the list, you've added the repo.
[09:04] <Mitrovarr> plus the support seems a little buggy... this computer has tv-out going and it crashes every single time I leave X
[09:04] <nekostar> 1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; null,1024x768; null,1280x1024
[09:04] <N6REJ> can anyone help with lvm?
[09:04] <Inf3ctedFx> if is possible 4 u to show me ur xorg I will help u better
[09:04] <MonoJ0ker> Warning! Remote Desktop will only work if there's a GNOME login session
[09:04] <nekostar> or swap where the nulls are
[09:04] <cafuego> nekostar: Is there a pcmcia card plugged in?
[09:04] <nekostar> put that in instead of just the dual mon resses
[09:04] <nekostar> sure isnt cafuego
[09:05] <nekostar> and its a fully offline install
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> oh, so if I set one of the null/res modes it'll only display on one monitor?
[09:05] <nekostar> yup
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> hey, that's awesome
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> thanks
[09:05] <nekostar> and it shows in the res options
[09:05] <nekostar> :)
[09:05] <QMario> Are there any avi to mpeg converters out there for Linux?
[09:05] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p Mitrovarr
[09:05] <cafuego> QMario: mencoder
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> that way I can finally have this computer shut down without crashing!  woot!
[09:05] <nekostar> wait
[09:05] <Inf3ctedFx> yep :)
[09:05] <nekostar> thats not gonna fix that
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> oh
[09:05] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated
[09:05] <nekostar> youve got a bigger problem if its crashing
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> I was hoping shutting down tv-out would make it not crash
[09:05] <nekostar> b/c mine doesnt
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> maybe it's a hardware issue?
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> it hard-crashes
[09:06] <nekostar> explain exactly whats going on
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> total lockup
[09:06] <nekostar> plz
[09:06] <humbraro> N6REJ: well, that depends on what apps your using, but the overhead isn't too bad
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> well, if I leave X with the tv-out enabled, it hard-crashes
[09:06] <nekostar> do you have logs ?
[09:06] <nekostar> ah
[09:06] <Mabus06> what should the permissions on .dmrc be?
[09:06] <nekostar> there was a config i found when googling dual monitor xorg for gentoo
[09:06] <Inf3ctedFx> P3L|C4N0:  gusto en verte por aki :)
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> I have some xorg logs.  Which one would it be?
[09:06] <N6REJ> humbaro, ok cool, my kids will like that.
[09:06] <nekostar> au;todetects for a tv
[09:06] <humbraro> N6REJ: RAM is more of a concern than anything
[09:06] <Inf3ctedFx> mmm
[09:07] <N6REJ> anyone know how to change permissions on a lvm partition?
[09:07] <nekostar> look at the end of the logs when its crashing
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  is ur video card nvidia right?
[09:07] <nekostar> ill see if i can find that link for ya
[09:07] <humbraro> N6REJ: mine do :)
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> yeah
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> let me check here something
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> ara, You still alive?
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> did u install the drivers do u?
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> the drivers from the repository
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, apt-get install nvidia
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> nvidia driver, 3-d accel and everything
[09:07] <ara> tonyyarusso: i am , trying to find out if i'va done the multiverse or no?
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> ara: Waiting for Synaptic to reload the list?
[09:08] <Mitrovarr> hmm
[09:08] <Mitrovarr> do I put those nulls in the screen0 or the screen1 section?
[09:08] <ara> tonyyarusso: i did look, i can't find
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then, no.
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: (You never did tell me how you thought you had done it.)
[09:09] <MonoJ0ker> ok so i'm installing ubunut-desktop
[09:09] <Inf3ctedFx> well Mitrovarr  the only thing I see here is u need just to tell xorg u have 2 monitores, give the detaisl about the monitores like Horiz and Ver sync and also turn off the xinerama
[09:09] <ilba7r_> are install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[09:09] <MonoJ0ker> i should be able to login to a gnome session then right?
[09:09] <N6REJ> Seveas, can you help with lvm permissions?
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: In Synaptic, try going to Settings > Repositories.
[09:09] <gerald-volt> er
[09:09] <Mitrovarr> brb, restarting x server
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: Click Add.
[09:09] <ilba7r_> i guess that is what you are looking for ara, tonyyarusso
[09:10] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ara: Check the box for "Multiverse".
[09:10] <Inf3ctedFx> look Mitrovarr  let me show u my xorg with 2 video cards so maybe u have an idea
[09:10] <ara> tonyyarusso: ok, hold
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, We'll need that, but not before we can get Java to start with.
[09:10] <nekostar> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-44463.html
[09:10] <N6REJ> nobody knows how to work with lvm?
[09:10] <nekostar> that SHOULD work for the tv
[09:10] <intelikey> oh how quaint, the initrd is useless on the live cd when trying to boot from the hdd ......
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, (I think mine actually did the plugin automatically without that package, but whatever.)
[09:11] <ilba7r_> tonyyarusso i thought that jre is already installed :)
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, Oh, we'd like to think so...
[09:12] <nekostar> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[09:12] <Inf3ctedFx> u can check nekostar  but I'm not sure
[09:13] <ilba7r_> ok will leave you then but if needed help will always be glad to lend a hand
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, All right, thanks.
[09:13] <ilba7r_> !broadcom
[09:13] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[09:13] <nekostar> whats that Inf3ctedFx ?
[09:13] <nekostar> i got it working for my card
[09:13] <nekostar> but i dont use the tv
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> Any idea how long it usually takes for the team to check out suggested specs posted on launchpad?  (Wondering when I might get a review for mine at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash)
[09:14] <Inf3ctedFx> is the VMware Player really good?
[09:14] <nekostar> best thing to do is make two monitor display and device sections
[09:14] <nekostar> ive not used vmware
[09:14] <intelikey> errr is there something wrong with this line in the grub prompt,  'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1 '   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's  /boot  ?????
[09:14] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: it's as good as vmware workstation, only difference that I've been able to tell is you can't create a new vm from the player
[09:14] <nekostar> what are you trying to play?
[09:15] <Inf3ctedFx> Nekos:  here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6372
[09:15] <intelikey> grub users ?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Yeah.
[09:15] <ara> tonyyarusso: ok i went to setting-repositories-add and check the multiverse box and reloaded again , i still can't find a package called j2re
[09:15] <nekostar> i use that intelikey
[09:15] <Inf3ctedFx> so GnarlyBob  I have in this machine just linux and then I instal VMware to install windows, it will work fine?
[09:15] <nekostar> lol
[09:16] <intelikey> is that line trying to get the kernel from hdb1 ?
[09:16] <nekostar> !tell ara about restricted formats
[09:16] <GnarlyBob> you need vmware workstation to create a windows vm that will load in the vmware player
[09:16] <Inf3ctedFx> nekostar:   here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6372
[09:16] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: damn small linux can something similar to that with a flash drive
[09:16] <Wilf> can xcdroast burn just data cd's?
[09:16] <Wilf> all isee is audio stuff...
[09:16] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: er, *do* something similar...
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, at this point I'm going to say ditch Synaptic, and ask you do use the cli for some stuff, so I have a better idea about what's going wrong, is that all right?
[09:16] <Inf3ctedFx> mm GnarlyBob vm workstation?
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: the regular "VMWare" that people have used for centuries
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> the player is new
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> they do offer a 30 day demo of workstation
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> humbraro, Yeah, I've heard that.  Hence my mention towards the bottom of hearing that other distros had that capability.  It would be nice if Ubuntu did.
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> I'm actually thinking about signing up for vmtn
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> look GnarlyBob  i'm in this website;  http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: yes, that will play an already-made virtual machine
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> "play" meaning "run"
[09:18] <ilba7r_> !broadcom
[09:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[09:18] <TTilus> Wilf: i remember burning data cd's with xcdroast
[09:18] <nekostar> Inf3ctedFx, just like that
[09:18] <Mabus06> what do I have to install from default in order to compile c++?
[09:18] <nekostar> but you use the same pci etc for the vid cards and same for the svcrrens etc
[09:18] <MonoJ0ker> so is it possible to get vnc server to work on Kubuntu?
[09:18] <nekostar> just make the identifiers different etc
[09:18] <TTilus> Wilf: if you cant find how to create data cd, just try another prog
[09:18] <liable> !b-e
[09:18] <ubotu> b-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:19] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: of course
[09:19] <intelikey> having hda hdb hdc hdd all connected and all active in bios the line 'kernel'   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's
[09:19] <TTilus> Wilf: k3b or like
[09:19] <Wilf> TTilus, i'm using nautlus...heh
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> the instructions say you can only use remote desktop with a gnome login
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> so fucks me
[09:19] <intelikey> cause it's not on hdb
[09:19] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: dsl saves things like settings and bookmarks to a flash drive, I don't know if it can install software to one
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> kubuntu+gnome = ubuntu in my book
[09:19] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that's just gnome's front end to the RDC or VNC or whatever
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> ara: In a terminal emulator window (Applications > Accessories > Terminal), do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.
[09:20] <GnarlyBob> er... ubuntu + kde = kubuntu, in anyone's book :)
[09:20] <Wilf> woah.
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> humbraro, Ah.
[09:20] <Wilf> this is easy!
[09:20] <ara> tonyyarusso: i just found it
[09:20] <MonoJ0ker> i have tightvnc installed and running yet connection attempts from ultravnc fail
[09:20] <MonoJ0ker> every time
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> ara: What did you do differently?
[09:20] <TTilus> Wilf: see you found it?
[09:20] <ara> tonyyarusso: i typed in the search menu, j2re
[09:21] <Wilf> TTilus, this is easier then with WinXP
[09:21] <khaled> hi.. i just install postgresql.. whats the default password for postgres user? i tried doing "su - postgres". i am getting a prompt for password
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay......  Then what were you doing before?
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> i just want to get a way to connect to this linux machine with my xp machine
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> can it really be that hard?
[09:21] <ara> tonyyarusso: i was searching for java not j2re
[09:21] <GnarlyBob> yeah, k3b is arguably the easiest to use and most stable cd burning software on the market, commercial or otherwise
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> ara: You'll want to install j2re.14 and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, probably with Firefox closed while you do so.
[09:21] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, firewall ?
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> nope
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> i can vnc to other machines on the network
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> ara: Which would be why I told you not to search for java, because the results list is ridiculous.
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: something's awry with your vnc server setup then
[09:22] <nekostar> Inf3ctedFx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83073
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> in fact if i boot this machine into windows then i can vnc into it
[09:22] <Mabus06> gcc: -E or -x required when input is from standard input
[09:22] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, can you ssh to the machine ?
[09:22] <Mabus06> I got this error, why?
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> boot into linux - server connection failed
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: need a bit more information than that
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> khaled no it's the only linux machine on the network
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> error messages, what version/config vnc server you're running, etc
[09:22] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, you can get a ssh client for windows and give it a try
[09:22] <ara> tonyyarusso: yeah, thank you very much for your help, i'm pretty new to linux , it's hard to work with but i like it
[09:23] <P-NuT> Hi all, redhat has a kickstart file which you can make unattended installations with. Does Ubuntu have something similar?
[09:23] <intelikey> i can never get grub to boot,  i don't speak gruby  or something.
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> ara: Yeah, it can be.
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> ara: I picked up a disk through ShipIt in August.
[09:24] <ilba7r_> at last free at last its working now the damin broadcom chipset
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> error message is "failed to connect to server"
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> i'm connecting from ultravnc in windows using the ip
[09:24] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:24] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, are you sure the server is running a vncserver ?
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> i thought vnc just worked usually
[09:24] <z|bandito> lo
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> but then i've never tried it under linux
[09:24] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, yes it does
[09:24] <GnarlyBob> and is there a vnc server running at the time you try to connect, and on the right port etc?
[09:25] <MonoJ0ker> under processes it shows the vnc service running
[09:25] <ara> tonyyarusso: heeyyyyy, it works
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> It was sort of interesting too.  That package kind of looked like a mail bomb.  From the Netherlands, somewhat unexpected given the delay, return address of just some shipping dock, no name, no description, bulky and padded.
[09:25] <humbraro> EpP: unfortunately, i haven't been able to find any sync software except for Palm, and some rsync hacks that kind of work on linux-based handhelds
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> It was kind of nice to see that they changed the labeling for the Breezy ships.
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> ara: Sweet.
[09:25] <Mabus06> How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?
[09:25] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, try running a vnc client in the linux machine and connect to self
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:26] <humbraro> EpP: if you find anything, please let me know, as i wanna upgrade my ancient palm m100
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> i don't have one installed i don't think
[09:26] <ara> tonyyarusso: thanks anyway, i'm leaving, bye
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> and vnc doesn't allow loopback connections does it?
[09:26] <z|bandito> anyone running ubuntu, or any linux, on an asus A8N SLI deluxe, particularly using the onboard raid?  it's an n-force 4 chipset with an extra raid controller.. i can't find much about it's linux compatibility on the web so far.. thanks! :)
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> ara: Bye.
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> connecting to yourself != loopback connection
[09:27] <intelikey> i have these two lines 'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1  ; initrd (hd2,0)/boot/ubinitrd.img '   the root for that os is on hdb1 which should be bios (1,0)   and the grub system that was installed is on a pinguin on hdc1  which should be bios (hd2,0)    now where the hell is it trying to load the kernel and initrd from ?  which drive?
[09:27] <QMario> Cafuego, are you still there?
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> vnc 204.128.180.2 (my ip address) is not the same as vnc 127.0.0.1
[09:27] <QMario> How do I use mencoder?
[09:27] <MonoJ0ker> is there a way to bring up the vnc server app itself?
[09:27] <MonoJ0ker> all i can see is the process running
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> there is no app
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> what about a client app?
[09:28] <khaled> GnarlyBob, just trying to figure out if his server is working fine
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> i can ping the linux box ok
[09:28] <intelikey> it's looking for the kernel on /dev/hdc1  correct ?
[09:28] <GnarlyBob> khaled: yeah, it's obvious to me that it's not running with standard settings
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> it's a brand new install
[09:28] <khaled> GnarlyBob, it might be cause of firewall too
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> the only thing i modified was the font path part of the config file to get the thing to run at all
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> there is no firewall except on the router
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> these pcs are all inside the router
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> does kubuntu have any inbuilt firewall settings?
[09:29] <GnarlyBob> no
[09:29] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:29] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:30] <Mabus06> How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?
[09:30] <MonoJ0ker> maybe there's no place for an old windows user with linux :(
[09:30] <khaled> intelikey, yes.. its looking for kernel in /dev/hdc according to your conf file
[09:30] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I've got a very similar setup here, and it works fine
[09:30] <MonoJ0ker> it just can't be so hard to install a simple remote control tool...
[09:30] <Mabus06> MonoJ0ker, get firestarter
[09:31] <khaled> intelikey, trying using grub console .. you can use "Tab" key to help you
[09:31] <GnarlyBob> a windows laptop, able to use realvnc client to connect to the vnc server on my linux machine with no trouble
[09:31] <eddye> How do i install Ubuntu-Desktop without the Breezy Badger CD
[09:31] <EpP> eddye...
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> so what's left to check?
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> the service is installed and running
[09:31] <EpP> eddye, apt-get install kubuntu-Desktop
[09:31] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: the configuration of your vnc server and/or client
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> password has been set
[09:31] <intelikey> ok thanks for the confirmation on that khaled,   grub console ?   i'm looking at that at the boot prompt now.
[09:32] <GnarlyBob> best guess is that your client is trying to connect to a port that's different from what the server is listening on
[09:32] <eddye> EnP: what if  i mess something up
[09:32] <tjb13> my firefox crashes all the time... etf
[09:32] <tjb13> wt
[09:32] <tjb13> f
[09:32] <eddye> as i know ubuntu and kubuntu arent the same
[09:32] <eddye> :)
[09:32] <MonoJ0ker> i have vnc.conf open
[09:32] <MonoJ0ker> no mention of port number
[09:32] <khaled> intelikey, yes.. use the cd to boot up in rescue mode.. be root.. and type "grub" .. fix it and then reboot
[09:33] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: can you connect from a client running locally?
[09:33] <eddye> EnP: i have to use the cd :) i don't have it anymore
[09:33] <eddye> :)
[09:33] <MonoJ0ker> what's a local client i can install?
[09:33] <GnarlyBob> e.g. try "vnc" or "vncviewer" or something from a shell prompt
[09:33] <intelikey> why not just hit [e]  and fix it and boot khaled ?
[09:33] <intelikey> done did.....
[09:33] <EpP> eddye, have you tried apt-get install ubuntu-Dektop?
[09:33] <khaled> tjb13, you have an alternative choice (opera)
[09:33] <EpP> Desktop*
[09:33] <eddye> yes the same problem : ) i need cd :)
[09:33] <khaled> intelikey, i am not sure if the "tab" thing works there
[09:34] <tjb13> khaled it stopped working after i installed this flash thing
[09:34] <EpP> get it...
[09:34] <eddye> omg I'll have to find it
[09:34] <eddye> bye :)
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> i can run vncviewer
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> it asks for ip/host
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> i enter it and it does nothing
[09:34] <khaled> tjb13, ah
[09:35] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> if i putin the linux machine hostname it says:  vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[09:35] <khaled> EpP, tried Pilot ?
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> then it's not listening on the port that the client is trying to connect to
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> i don't understand why all the conf file lines are prefixed with #
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> isn't that the ignore command?
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> those are comments
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> yes
[09:36] <Mabus06> how can I get my c++ compiler working? I get 'c++: -E or -x required when input is from standard input
[09:36] <Mabus06> '
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> and every line in the vnc.conf file is #ed
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> usually, whatever the setting is that's there as a comment is sort of indicative of the defaults with no specific settings
[09:36] <EpP> khaled, is that for ppc or palm?
[09:36] <tjb13> anyone have any idea of how to get sleep to work on a thinkpad
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> but every line?  seems weird
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: you need source code to compile
[09:36] <khaled> EpP, i do not have a pocket pc but you can give gnome-pilot a try
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: yeah, it's just a way of documenting the default settings
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:36] <Mabus06> GnarlyBob, I'm trying to compile a .cpp file
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> but it means my conf file has no relevant settings
[09:37] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: so you're doing something like: g++ myfile.cpp ?
[09:37] <Mabus06> and then -o myfile.out
[09:37] <Mabus06> err, c++ command actually
[09:37] <intelikey> MonoJ0ker  grep -ve'#' <config_file>
[09:38] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: it's telling you that for whatever reason, it's trying to read source from standard input (console input) instead of from your source file
[09:38] <Mabus06> Err, nevermind, GnarlyBob. Got it to work.
[09:38] <Mabus06> Thanks
[09:38] <intelikey> only see the lines not commented out
[09:38] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: what are you looking at that's telling you there is a vnc server running?
[09:38] <MonoJ0ker> ksysguard
[09:39] <Mabus06> What should the permissions on the /home/,dmrc file be?
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> do you have a command prompt open?
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> grep shows me the font lines i added to fix the "font path not found" error
[09:39] <nikos> hey everybody
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> yep
[09:39] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about radeon graphics cards and if the 3d accel is supported out of the box with ubuntu?
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> ps axuww | grep -i vnc | grep -v grep
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> does that give you any output?
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> yeah
[09:40] <nikos> In ubuntu breezy badger how can we write the euro symbol?
[09:40] <MonoJ0ker> bit long to paste
[09:40] <Mabus06> spanglesontoast, have you got the two desktops thing to work with your Radeon? Mine is a X700 Pro.
[09:40] <spanglesontoast> no it's an old one
[09:40] <spanglesontoast> 9200
[09:40] <GnarlyBob> ok, what's the name of the vnc process that's running?
[09:40] <intelikey> anyone got a grub menu.lst or lilo.conf that boots a cdrom drive ?
[09:40] <MonoJ0ker> in the sysguard?
[09:40] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: either that or from the shell output, should be the same
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> I'm just wondering if I need to install fglrx or something
[09:41] <intelikey> i've been aimed to set that up but i'm too lazy
[09:41] <MonoJ0ker> xtightvnc
[09:41] <Mabus06> spanglesontoast, you should have fglrx to use ati cards
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> so am I right in saying I don't actually have any 3d accell at the moment?
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> if I had a fresh install?
[09:41] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that sounds like the name of the vnc client, not the server
[09:42] <nikos> I got a 9600 and works very nice. 3d acceleration, video overlay and multi desktop (although I don't use it that much). I don't know how nvidia's cards work but my radeon 9600 works like a charm
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> really?
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> I'll never give ATI any of my money ever again
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> bummer
[09:42] <khaled> spanglesontoast, try running "glxgears"  .. you should get over 500
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> personal boycott
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> i did install tightvncserver from the repos
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> any idea how to get it running?
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I could be wrong, checking now
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> it didn't spit any output out??
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> odd
[09:43] <nikos> so does anyone know how to type the euro symbol in breezy
[09:43] <nikos> ?
[09:43] <khaled> spanglesontoast, how fast were the wheels moving ?
[09:43] <MonoJ0ker> if i type tightvncserver at the prompt i get:
[09:43] <MonoJ0ker> New 'X' desktop is ross:2
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> erm slow
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> and now the process table shows 2 instances of tightvnc
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> ok
[09:44] <khaled> spanglesontoast, then no hardware accel
[09:44] <spanglesontoast> :(
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> I know the problem
[09:44] <weekang> hi, i'm using xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu 5.10 but the lock screen button doesn't work..
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> i have killed one
[09:44] <spanglesontoast> shall I install fglrx etc
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> put a :1 at the end of the hostname in your vnc client connection box
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> really?
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> so it wants to use port 1
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> er, or maybe :2, depending on which server you get
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> yes
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> no, that's not a port number
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:45] <MonoJ0ker> but isn't the syntax for specifying a server in a vnc client [host/ip] :port
[09:45] <MonoJ0ker> ?
[09:45] <khaled> spanglesontoast, i got a friend working at ATI .. he is driver developer.. he told me ATI is working on linux drivers.. they might have already released it..
[09:45] <nikos> about ati's cards check this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=fglrx+xvideo
[09:45] <GnarlyBob> unix UI stuff runs on the X Window System, which is a network-aware (and clunky and old and broken) windowing system... it runs in listening mode, and can have more than one running at a time, you distinguish between them with the :0.0 :1.0 etc
[09:45] <khaled> spanglesontoast, your card is old anyways.. you should be able to find a driver which supports hardware accel
[09:45] <nikos> very usefull instruction there and nice links
[09:45] <spanglesontoast> yea I hate buying new cards thou
[09:45] <GnarlyBob> no, it's host:X instance number
[09:47] <nikos> radeon 9200 is old? are you serious? besides is there anything running on linux that would puss the card to it's limits? :)
[09:47] <humbraro> so, while folks are going through ATI video card hell... does anybody know how to get an old Rage128 card to work (3D) under breezey?
[09:47] <humbraro> worked fine with hoary
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> depends which one heh
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> I used have one of those
[09:48] <nikos> humraro: have you editer your xorg.cong file?
[09:48] <nikos> xorg.conf
[09:48] <MonoJ0ker> ok so it connects
[09:48] <MonoJ0ker> and the screen is blank
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> i only have one session running
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> yeah, but you probably have X running also
[09:49] <humbraro> nikos: yup - loads drm, dri, got the dri chmod 0666 thing in there - i've been through several distros with this card and all of them worked, until i upgraded to breezy
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> which takes hostname:0
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> then your vnc server (first one) was on hostname:1
[09:49] <khaled> nikos, i have not used any graphics intensive app...  i have a sis card.. ofcourse no 3d support
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> i'm connecting into :1
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> then you started it again, it got hostname:2, and you killed one, unknown which
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> should i just try 0,1,etc
[09:50] <GnarlyBob> well, if X is running (gnome, kde, whatever) it'll be on :0
[09:50] <MonoJ0ker> and that's my current session?
[09:50] <GnarlyBob> so vnc will be available on :1 for the first connection, :2 for the second, etc
[09:50] <MonoJ0ker> hang on brb
[09:50] <nikos> humbraro: does the xserver start
[09:50] <nikos> ?
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> anyways I gotta restart
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> might hop back in cheers for helping me use my brains....
[09:51] <GnarlyBob> that's such a windows concept :p
[09:51] <FlannelKing> Anyone know why (with apache2) a <location> (that activates web_dav) would overrule a mod_rewrite of that directory?
[09:51] <humbraro> http://pastebin.com/483882
[09:52] <humbraro> nikos: yup, just no 3d accel
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> i can't connect to :0,:2 or :3
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> only :1
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> and the screen is blank - like the one that loads before the background does
[09:52] <humbraro> nikos: and i just noticed that i'm set up for 24 bit color - ima change that to 16 where it should be and be right back
[09:53] <MonoJ0ker> i'll just restart and try again
[09:53] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: :1 is the only one that is listening
[09:56] <humbraro> nope, 16 bit color and still 130 fps on glxgears
[09:59] <intelikey> rm /bin/sh
[10:00] <lexhider> I've installed lm-sensors to see if my power supply is the reason my system is crashing, what log files should I look at post crash to see if it is the culprit???
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> ok so from the top
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> fresh reboot
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> logon as me
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> kommand - tightvncserver
[10:00] <epp> I am running a 800mhz celeron, what can i do to speed up linux?
[10:01] <MonoJ0ker> New 'X' desktop is ross:1
[10:01] <GnarlyBob> vnc client would point to ross:1 then
[10:01] <GnarlyBob> or <ip-address>:1
[10:01] <khaled> epp, user reiserfs as file system.. or may be even xfs
[10:01] <khaled> s/user/use
[10:01] <epp> khaled, how would i do that?
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> yeah and i get a blank screen with a konsole showing
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> ext3 is faster than either of those in my experience, and in any case, that would not give any noticeable performance increase
[10:02] <khaled> epp, cause those are faster than ext3
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> and it's not hte console i just typed into
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: it shouldn't be
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> wtf is going on?
[10:02] <intelikey> epp kill everything but console  sure speeds up a pinguin
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> you've got a VNC session open
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> yeah only problem is it's not into this session
[10:02] <khaled> GnarlyBob, xfs does a lot of caching and i do find a difference
[10:02] <epp> How would i do all of these things?
[10:02] <Madpilot> lexhider: I'm don't know if lm-sensors logs everything by default, but it will show voltages if your mobo sensors support that
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: right, that's standard
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> it is?
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> for a unix-based server, yes
[10:03] <khaled> epp, how much ram do you have installed?
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> so... i can't use it to control THIS session then
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> or get access to the applications or anything
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> just a konsole
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> multiple people connecting to one unix machine from several clients (xterminals) is old-school, they decided to keep with the tradition when they did vnc
[10:03] <epp> 512... but i have 256k more i can put in... but its not same brand.
[10:04] <GnarlyBob> I think if you mouse around, you should have access to your menus and such
[10:04] <johnw> replaced vid card and monitor.  X11 doesn't work now.  Have driver for new card on floppy.  Can't access floppy from command-line cuz I'm stupid.  Help!!!
[10:04] <johnw> how do I uninstall drivers as well?
[10:05] <lexhider> Madpilot, thanks, which log files should I look for, and what kind of info?
[10:05] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I believe there are vnc server alternatives that will let you vnc into an already-running X session
[10:05] <GnarlyBob> not sure though
[10:05] <khaled> epp, you could get a lighter window manager.. like xfce4
[10:05] <epp> yeah... but i dont like the interface...
[10:05] <MonoJ0ker> no access to anything but a blank screen
[10:05] <MonoJ0ker> that's next to useless
[10:06] <maskd> im so happy with ubuntu, theres finally a dark theme that i can use
[10:06] <epp> im installing kubuntu right now
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> windows it is for me
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that's something that can be fixed
[10:06] <humbraro> maskd: what theme is that?
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> thanks for the help all but it's just a pita
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> try mousing around off the edge
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> special thanks to GnarlyBob for his patience andhelp
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> but obviously linux ain't for me
[10:06] <khaled> epp, oh.. if you are installing it now, then choose reiserfs as the file system..
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> cheers guys
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> epp: kubuntu will be slower than regular ubuntu
[10:06] <dabaR> MonoJ0ker: give yourself time...
[10:06] <johnw> ack, how do I uninstall drivers?
[10:06] <maskd> humbraro: marble-look with clearbooks window border and human icons
[10:07] <epp> no... i am getting it from apt.
[10:07] <MonoJ0ker> lol dabaR  it's taken 3 hours just to get a vnc server working and now it is useless
[10:07] <MonoJ0ker> under windows i could have done it in 30 seconds and i know it would have worked
[10:07] <GnarlyBob> and there is no reason to install reiser for the regular end-user, and having people start off by choosing anything other than defaults is just asking for trouble, unless there is a good reason
[10:07] <epp> but i dont like gnome interface...
[10:07] <humbraro> maskd: did you get it at gnome-look.org?
[10:07] <dabaR> MonoJ0ker: no, I mean, like a week, or a year.
[10:07] <maskd> humbraro: http://art.gnome.oprg
[10:07] <maskd> humbraro: http://art.gnome.org
[10:08] <callie> ok i recently did an update via adept and i remember some kernel header updates being part of it now i cant boot into ubuntu it appears that getty is missing :( any ideas?
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> nah all i wanted was to be able to run the linux session in vnc so i could use one monitor
[10:08] <maskd> i personally think the ones from there look cleaner
[10:08] <GnarlyBob> http://www.lynucs.org/ for some nice screenshots and ideas :)
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> now ifind that isn't possible it's back to a single os for me
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> later all
[10:08] <Madpilot> lexhider: I'm not sure - I run lm-sensors, but I've never loooked into what logs it keeps
[10:08] <dabaR> callie: idea: get the exact error when asking for help
[10:08] <epp> so what could i do to speed kubuntu up?
[10:08] <intelikey> how do you get rid of these damned icons on the desktop in gnome.
[10:08] <intelikey> ?
[10:08] <maskd> jeez Monoj0ker didnt feel like learning
[10:08] <maskd> intelikey: what icons?
[10:08] <maskd> the mounted drives?
[10:09] <Madpilot> intelikey: there's an option somewhere in gconf
[10:09] <dabaR> maskd: and like, he wants everything in one evening...
[10:09] <intelikey> all of them
[10:09] <dabaR> intelikey: you can even turn off the desktop, to not show anything on it.
[10:09] <Madpilot> intelikey: Applications menu - System Tools - Configuration
[10:09] <epp> oh and my video card sucks so bad it doesnt do 3-d. what can i do to make it do 3d stuff?
[10:09] <humbraro> maskd: nice :)
[10:09] <GnarlyBob> intellikey: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[10:09] <dabaR> intelikey: ya, and then apps>nautilus>desktop>use desktop
[10:10] <maskd> thanks humbraro, it's taken me aaages to find a nice dark theme
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> er Configuration Editor
[10:10] <maskd> soo much easier on the eyes
[10:10] <Madpilot> epp: buy a new one? :P
[10:10] <humbraro> yup
[10:10] <maskd> epp: you can't make a non 3d card do 3d things
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[10:10] <intelikey> k
[10:10] <callie> dabaR: i dont have the exact error because the system wont boot, if that makes sense
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> deselect the checkboxes on the right side.
[10:10] <intelikey> looking
[10:10] <khaled> epp, /j #kahakai
[10:10] <epp> i could with software emulation in windows.
[10:10] <dabaR> callie: kinda, but you have a pen...
[10:11] <khaled> epp, sorry
[10:11] <epp> khaled, hu?
[10:11] <humbraro> maskd: funny, ubuntu has made me lazy cause its so polished - i don't tinker around with things as much anymore
[10:11] <callie> dabaR: pen? whats that? lol
[10:11] <Madpilot> lexhider: if you search Synaptic for sensors, there's a package called "sensord" which is a logging daemon - you might want to look at that
[10:11] <GnarlyBob> I switched to ubuntu with the hope of not tinkering around any more, but it's not worked out that way *at all*
[10:12] <Cybercool> hello
[10:12] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: switched from what?
[10:12] <maskd> humbraro: yeah i know, i havent tinkered with the layout of anything, just the colours, i hated that brown =/
[10:12] <GnarlyBob> dabaR: many many different distributions
[10:12] <GnarlyBob> most recently, gentoo
[10:12] <callie> dabaR: its something like this "could not execute 'getty'" with "ID x: spawning too fast" messages
[10:12] <lexhider> Madpilot, thanks, will give it a try
[10:13] <humbraro> after 'drake, then slack, then gentoo, then this, its much easier to get along
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> my first distribution was SLS
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> in 1993.
[10:13] <dabaR> callie: probably will not be able to find a fix very quick. how much ram does the computer have?
[10:13] <Cybercool> i have a problem on my  other computer, i can't login on my  ubuntu. GDM can't write auhorization file. So i wanted to login on a terminal so i can remove some files, but it doesn't prompt anything. Can anybody help?
[10:13] <callie> dabaR: 512mb
[10:13] <epp> humbraro, i heard gentoo is way nice.
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> then slackware for several years, then debian, red hat, suse, gentoo
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> gentoo is for tinkerers
[10:13] <dabaR> callie: use the live CD til you find an answer, and google with the exact error.
[10:14] <humbraro> epp: gentoo has its place in the world, its for control freaks and masochists
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> my server is still running gentoo
[10:14] <dabaR> Cybercool: anything saying XAuthority?
[10:14] <callie> dabaR: looks like thats the only solution for now
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> and based upon the MAJOR trouble I had getting ubuntu up and running, it might stay that way
[10:14] <epp> but i heard its the fastest for slow comps.
[10:14] <Cybercool> dabaR, no
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> epp: that could very well be true
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> if any is faster for that, it would certainly be gentoo
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> since it does permit you to optimize things in a very fine-grained way
[10:15] <epp> GnarlyBob, but then again, i dont even know enough to ever get it installed.
[10:15] <humbraro> epp: this ubuntu install is on a PIII733/256, and runs fine
[10:15] <Cybercool> dabaR: it starts, go's to the login screen, and then i get the message. And pressing ok goes back to the login screen
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> epp: gentoo's documentation is the best there is, hands-down
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> beats ubuntu's by a country mile, even.
[10:15] <dabaR> Cybercool: but then when you enter user name and password it gives you that error?
[10:15] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: amen to gentoo's docs
[10:15] <Cybercool> dabar: And when i press ctrl alt F1, i only see a flashing stripe
[10:16] <khaled> epp, by the time you compile all the packages to optimize them, you will be tried of gentoo
[10:16] <dabaR> Cybercool: same for f2, f3, and so on?
[10:16] <Cybercool> dabaR: yes could not write authorization file, harddisk could be full!
[10:16] <maskd> does anybody else use 1 program open per workspace? just fullscreened
[10:16] <GnarlyBob> gentoo seems like it was founded with the intent of getting complete utter computer newbies to be hardcore linux freaks
[10:16] <dabaR> Cybercool: no other consoles can be logged into? do you have a live CD?
[10:17] <Cybercool> dabaR: de last time i checked every F key, i'll try again for every F key, and maybe i see an error
[10:17] <dabaR> Cybercool: are you sure the disk is not full?
[10:17] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: no kidding, but i never had any trouble with it - the install instructions could have been a script and everything would have went perfectly
[10:17] <mwright1night> hello
[10:18] <mwright1night> can someone help me wth a problem
[10:18] <GnarlyBob> humbraro: I never had any trouble with it either, I just got pretty tired of having my machine become lagged for X minutes/hours every day with compiling updates
[10:18] <maskd> mwright1night: whats the problem?
[10:18] <thoeger> Hi there - GDesklets kills my X.org. Not any specific desklet - the app itself. It worked fine for a couple of days on my newly installed breezy ppc. Any idea why?
[10:18] <tjb13> anyone in here know how to get sleep working on a thinkpad
[10:19] <intelikey> humbraro when i find one like that, i make a script out of it, and save for later.
[10:19] <GnarlyBob> thoeger: any errors in .xsession-errors in your home directory?
[10:19] <thoeger> mwright1night, bring it on!
[10:19] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: yup, i did a stage-1 install on a 233mhz machine and it took over a week before i saw xfce
[10:19] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: I'll check...
[10:19] <GnarlyBob> heh, I always did stage 1 too
[10:19] <mwright1night> just got 344 packages not upgraded on Mepis
[10:20] <mwright1night> I am remoted into my friends box -- I run Redhat and ubuntu myself  only have 1 pure debian box
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> but I was building my linux boxen from scratch 10+ years ago too, so this stuff is all fluff, in a way
[10:20] <mwright1night> but as mepis has stuff all user base thats why I was asking here
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> I *hate* debian
[10:20] <spanglesontoast> ok back got problems with the fglrx driver
[10:20] <Cybercool> dabaR: are you still there?
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> with the passion of the burning sun
[10:20] <dabaR> df
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> but I really wanted to give ubuntu a fair shake
[10:20] <spanglesontoast> how can I check if it's actually running?
[10:20] <Cybercool> dabaR: the system when off, no battery!
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> spanglesontoast: lsmod
[10:20] <mwright1night> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 344 not upgraded.
[10:20] <maskd> GnarlyBob: whats wrong with debian? i found the .deb packaging system great
[10:20] <mwright1night> when doing an apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <intelikey> GnarlyBob but it is deb....
[10:20] <maskd> it's what turned me to ubuntu
[10:21] <tjb13> maskd dpkg is horrendus
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> maskd: the politics, first and foremost - and apt is horrendous
[10:21] <mwright1night> this is on my friends mepis 3.3 box 2.6.10 kernel  (unstable)
[10:21] <dabaR> Cybercool: find out whether the disk is really full.
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> apt/dpkg whatever
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> it's nasty
[10:21] <Cybercool> dabaR: how?
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> ty
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> I think everyone should use portage :D
[10:21] <mwright1night> I want to bring him up to mepis 3.4 in a week then migrate him to the April release of kubuntu
[10:21] <tjb13> gentoo owns
[10:21] <tjb13> and i just started using ubuntu
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> yea it says it's running
[10:21] <mwright1night> he is 65 and rather hopeless with computers
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> odd
[10:21] <thoeger> mwright1night: can't see right away what should be wrong...
[10:21] <mwright1night> so didn't want to change hinm in a hurry
[10:21] <khaled> spanglesontoast, lsmod ? is it a module ?
[10:21] <tjb13> its great, don't have to wait for shit to xcompile
[10:21] <tjb13> pr0n even downloads fastar
[10:21] <mwright1night> i just did an apt-get upgrade and all these packages are held back
[10:22] <spanglesontoast> I think
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: use a live cd if you can not boot into it. once inside the live session, mount your hard disk, and check it with "df -h"
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> well yeah, that's about the only reason I am trying ubuntu instead of going gentoo again... I just don't have the time to tweak
[10:22] <maskd> GnarlyBob: whats the best packaging system?
[10:22] <Cybercool> dabaR: i don't have a live cd
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> maskd: portage
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: good time to get one.
[10:22] <Cybercool> dabaR: is there an other way
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> (a matter of opinion, of course)
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: I do not have other ideas.
[10:23] <humbraro> bsd ports - hands down
[10:23] <maskd> GnarlyBob: that is used in gentoo isnt it?
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> maskd: yes
[10:23] <tjb13> maskd yes
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> humbraro: portage is based on ports
[10:23] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: yup, i know] 
[10:23] <tjb13> anyone know how to get sleep working
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> it takes the idea of ports, and builds on it, imho making it much more flexible
[10:23] <Cybercool> dabaR: i found an old live cd from 4.10 that will work also
[10:23] <Cybercool> dabaR: i'm going to try now, wish me luck :S
[10:24] <intelikey> tjb13 yes   mount /head /pillow ;renice brain
[10:24] <thoeger> tjb13 yes, go to bed... ;-)
[10:24] <thoeger> damn too slow
[10:25] <maskd> hey whats the cmd to take a screenshot?
[10:25] <intelikey> well i just borked nautilus.
[10:25] <thoeger> maskd: what's your desktop env.?
[10:25] <intelikey>  system / take a screene ?
[10:26] <maskd> thoeger: gnome
[10:26] <zakame> the print screen key
[10:26] <maskd> oh that works in gnome?
[10:26] <maskd> i wonder if alt+print screen works to print only the active window
[10:27] <thoeger> maskd: you can configure it in Desktop Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts...
[10:27] <dabaR> Cybercool: good luckl
[10:27] <thoeger> maskd: But be careful; I accidentally disabled my space key a couple of days ago - annoying!
[10:28] <maskd> thoeger: bugger, it's cool though i dont go near the space key in hotkeys
[10:28] <intelikey> or is it  action > take a screeny
[10:29] <nxnxmox> hey
[10:29] <nxnxmox> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:29] <thoeger> maskd: it was easy to go back and put right, but darn....
[10:29] <nxnxmox> Anyone know hot to fix this?
[10:29] <thoeger> nxnxmox: You got the right library installed?
[10:29] <dodoria> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:29] <dodoria>  |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed
[10:29] <dodoria> xD
[10:30] <nxnxmox> what does this mean
[10:30] <nxnxmox> oh wait
[10:30] <dodoria> xP
[10:30] <nxnxmox> nevermind -- first time linux user here :p
[10:30] <neo369> gibs hir a deutsch sprachige leute ?
[10:31] <dodoria> help-me please
[10:31] <dodoria>  |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed
[10:31] <athlon> neo369, versuch man #ubuntu-de
[10:31] <Cybercool> dabaR: i removed some files, no i'm restarting, hope it works
[10:31] <dodoria> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:31] <dodoria> x~
[10:31] <athlon> mal*
[10:31] <intelikey> yuch!  the gnome terminal is white.....
[10:31] <neo369> ok i mach mr danke
[10:31] <polpak> intelikey: so change it
[10:31] <intelikey> i will
[10:31] <polpak> intelikey: =p
[10:32] <Cybercool> dabaR: i can login!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH
[10:32] <Cybercool> thanks
[10:32] <polpak> dodoria: why not install the lame codec from the ubuntu repos?
[10:34] <Madpilot> intelikey: you can change all sorts of display options in gnome terminal...
[10:34] <dodoria> polpak, He no search the packets
[10:34] <polpak> Madpilot: he knows.. he's just complaining =p
[10:34] <Madpilot> polpak: ah, OK :P
[10:34] <intelikey> Madpilot yes i see that, almost a configurable as konsole isn't it.
[10:35] <polpak> dodoria: better yet.. just read the restricted formats wiki?
[10:35] <johnw> I'm switching to gentoo for AM64
[10:35] <Madpilot> intelikey: never used konsole - that's KDE's terminal app?
[10:35] <johnw> AMD64
[10:35] <polpak> ubotu tell dodoria about restricted
[10:35] <johnw> the wave of the future!
[10:35] <intelikey> yes
[10:36] <intelikey> yes and the reason i made the compairison Madpilot, it looks like they both stole the same code on the same day.
[10:37] <Madpilot> intelikey: proof that the gnome terminal doesn't have to be white: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/gnome-term.png :)
[10:37] <intelikey> minse not.
[10:37] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's not stealing if it's GPL'd, remember :P
[10:37] <intelikey> oh yeah.....
[10:37] <maskd> intelikey: it's good if their similar, it means less of a learning curve when going between the 2
[10:38] <humbraro> anybody else have gdesklets eating up all their cpu time?
[10:38] <polpak> Madpilot: you can, but only if you claim it's yours and/or close it
[10:38] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: About my x.org crashing when I start the gdesklets app....
[10:38] <Belutz> hmm, what's the command to see package information from the console?
[10:38] <Madpilot> polpak: yeah, OK, but you know what I mean
[10:39] <polpak> Madpilot: yep
[10:39] <sampan> belutz  apt-cache show package.name
[10:39] <Belutz> sampan, thanks
[10:39] <intelikey> maskd to each his own.   i realize there is only so many things you can do with crt  but the more something resembles M$ Windows (R)  the less i like it.
[10:39] <sampan> np
[10:39] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: ... just read my .xsession-errors but I must confess it makes littles ense to me...
[10:40] <maskd> intelikey: wait wait, aren't we comparing konsole and gnome-terminal
[10:40] <intelikey> yes
[10:40] <maskd> MS-DOS prompt isn't anywhere near as customizable...
[10:41] <intelikey> i know  :)
[10:41] <maskd> so where did the windows comment come from? :P
[10:41] <spanglesontoast> anyone?
[10:41] <Madpilot> I was messing with .bashrc last week - you can do some cool things in terminal/console
[10:41] <intelikey> from the learing curve comment.... just expanded it to the ubuntu mintality
[10:41] <Fanskapet> 4DOS istheshit.net :)
[10:42] <Fanskapet> or 4NT for windows.
[10:42] <intelikey> yessir Madpilot
[10:42] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: anyone 4 what?
[10:42] <kimkola> how do i find out which distro i am running ?
[10:42] <intelikey> uname -r
[10:43] <spanglesontoast> well I've got issues with the fglrx
[10:43] <spanglesontoast> driver
[10:43] <cafuego> kimkola: cat /etc/motd
[10:43] <intelikey> or uname -a  if you like lots of info
[10:43] <cafuego> kimkola: That usually mentions what you're on.
[10:43] <thoeger> kimkola + intelikey: That will tell the kernel, not the distro...
[10:43] <intelikey> cafuego on all my boxes that returns nothing
[10:44] <maskd> kimkola: you should know what distro you are running, if you installed it..
[10:44] <cafuego> intelikey: Then you must have emptoed motd.
[10:44] <kimkola> yea it is only giving me info on kernel etc,
[10:44] <tjb13> cafuego are you a gentoo convert aswell
[10:44] <cafuego> tjb13: No, I am not retarded.
[10:44] <tjb13> hhaha
[10:44] <intelikey> only on the ubuntu install cafuego the rest were empty by default.
[10:44] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Well, throw it into the pool and hope for someone 2 catch it :-)
[10:45] <kimkola> acutally i did not installed it, and i have to figure out apache on it, so was looking for rpm's for it, then i thought i dont know what distro it is :
[10:45] <intelikey> and kernel info is usually enough to tell the distro also
[10:45] <maskd> how to you modify the motd?
[10:45] <maskd> sudo gedit /etc/motd?
[10:45] <intelikey> edit /etc/motd
[10:45] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Not sure I can help you though...
[10:46] <munzir> hi sirs, how should I proceed to install dapper? may be I can download a nighty dvd but I am afraid it won't install and then I was left clueless
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: Naughty.
[10:46] <intelikey> unless the packagers put a line in one of the init scripts that rewrites it each boot....
[10:46] <intelikey> ?
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: That's not normally the case, it wouldn't get rewritten anyway.
[10:46] <thoeger> Okay folks I'll throw it out again: Anyone might have an idea why gdesklets mkes X go bye-bye?
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: /etc/issue might contain info as well, though.
[10:47] <thoeger> Stellarium does the same thing...
[10:47] <spanglesontoast> well at the moment I Have like very high brightness with it set to the fglrx in the xorg
[10:47] <intelikey> cafuego ???  "it wouldn't get rewritten anyway."   what you smoking ?
[10:47] <alphabet[afk] > hrm
[10:47] <Madpilot> munzir: Dapper is still in heavy development, and will break things - keep running Breezy unless you want to break things...
[10:47] <alphabet[afk] > i just did apt-get upgrade
[10:47] <cafuego> intelikey: motd doesn't get rewritten on bootup
[10:48] <alphabet[afk] > and like 20 apps just got held back
[10:48] <cafuego> intelikey: (on normal distros)
[10:48] <peza> for /etc/motd you will need to edit /etc/default/rcS to prevent your changes being overwritten every boot
[10:48] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Have you always had that problem or has it come recently?
[10:48] <_ian_> anyone here folding?
[10:48] <intelikey> on breezy it doesn't  on one system i have here it does and so does issue and issue.net
[10:49] <spanglesontoast> since I changed to the fglrx driver
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > The following packages have been kept back:
[10:49] <munzir> Madpilot: yes I want to take it as a new experience. I already have Breezy installed and I loved it very much
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > libapache-mod-php4 libapache2-mod-php4 linux-image-386
[10:49] <intelikey> but i fix that cause i don't like any crap on my login screen/s
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > linux-restricted-modules-386 php4 php4-cgi php4-cli php4-common php4-curl
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > php4-dev php4-domxml php4-gd php4-ldap php4-mcal php4-mhash php4-mysql
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > php4-odbc php4-pgsql php4-recode php4-snmp php4-sybase php4-xslt
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded.
[10:49] <cafuego> Tssk. naughty Ubuntu.
[10:49] <GTroy> I hate to ask, but I lose wifi after a few hours online, never happened before....
[10:50] <_ian_> spanglesontoast what ati card you have?
[10:50] <alphabet`> any dea why that happens?
[10:50] <spanglesontoast> ati radeon 9200
[10:50] <alphabet`> (the apt-get update error)
[10:50] <_ian_> i see...
[10:50] <cafuego> alphabet`: Feel free to not spam.
[10:50] <alphabet`> sorry
[10:50] <alphabet`> i tried to paste it one line
[10:50] <cafuego> alphabet`: Don't paste AT ALL here.
[10:50] <alphabet`> got it.
[10:51] <e-fonz> any one got experience with rar?
[10:51] <cafuego> alphabet`: Anyway, package can be held back if another package they depend on isn't yet available in the correct version.
[10:51] <GTroy> e-fonz yeah
[10:51] <thoeger> e-fonz... a bit
[10:51] <alphabet`> okay, so why would php4 be held back then?
[10:51] <alphabet`> all of those depend on php4
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: ... installing the new version would cause an unsatisfied depend.
[10:52] <spanglesontoast> hmm does the fglrx driver already compiled cos I know theres a driver you can compile from source...?
[10:52] <e-fonz> Trying to unpack rar files.....but they are named with () i replaced the () with %28 and %29, but rar cannot find the files
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: Try forcefully installing it, see what breaks: that's what's causing it ;-)
[10:52] <alphabet`> haha, i'll just wait then.
[10:52] <alphabet`> i'm not spending another 4 hours formatting
[10:52] <cafuego> e-fonz: replace ( with \( or just put the whole filename in quotes.
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: Prolly be sorted in a few hours.
[10:53] <alphabet`> cafuego: actually its been like that for the past two weeks
[10:53] <e-fonz> "FooFighters(6Albums).part01.rar" like this?
[10:53] <intelikey> and gnome terminal doesn't read in the bashrc and profile   arrrrr
[10:53] <cafuego> alphabet`: Hmm. Running a 'dist-upgrade; or just an 'upgrade' ?
[10:53] <mwright1night> anyone know where I can get Freenx debs from?
[10:53] <alphabet`> i first did
[10:53] <alphabet`> apt-get update, then i did apt-get upgrade
[10:53] <cafuego> alphabet`: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:53] <alphabet`> dist upgrade?
[10:54] <jlund> Has anyone had any luck getting suspend/hibernate to work on an Asus a8n-e motherboard? If I do the logout hibernate option the system goes partially down and my screen doesn't display anything but everything is still on (fans etc.) and it won't wake back up.
[10:54] <alphabet`> i'm already on breezy
[10:54] <cafuego> alphabet`: They're held back because a NEW package is needed. 'upgrade' cannot puill that in. 'dist-upgrade' can (and will).
[10:54] <alphabet`> ah, i'll try
[10:54] <morphix> hmm.. i changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?
[10:54] <Madpilot> jlund: is that a laptop mobo or desktop?
[10:54] <jlund> Desktop
[10:55] <e-fonz>  Thanks guys after, 1 hr. of goofing swearing as a noob it finally works!
[10:55] <alphabet`> its gonan install a new linux image, and then upgrade those
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: For future reference:
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: unrar e Foo<tab>
[10:55] <thoeger> spanglesontoast - dunno what causes your problem, sorry...
[10:55] <GTroy> hmmm having a netgear usb drop connection after a while....any help?
[10:55] <spanglesontoast> ok
[10:55] <_ian_> where can i get new themes for ubuntu?
[10:55] <BjornW> hi, can somebody tell me how to add icons to any application launcher. Somehow I cannot select any icons except for the default ones
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: The tab key will autocomplete the filename and escape any special characters
[10:56] <cafuego> _ian_: art.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <intelikey> hmmm it really did break nautilus when i did a 'rm -rf ~/Desktop ;ln -s /dev/null ~/Desktop '    i wonder why ???
[10:56] <e-fonz> cafuego: Wow thanks, just installed ubuntu one week ago, and learned a lot!
[10:56] <cafuego> intelikey: user error.
[10:56] <cafuego> e-fonz: tab completion is your friend. Works on all files (and commands)
[10:57] <thoeger> spanglesontoast - but synaptics tells me that fglrx is binary-only, so I don't think not having compiled causes your problem :-)
[10:57] <jlund> Is it even possible to get hibernate to work on a desktop machine? I haven't seen my in the forums about it.
[10:57] <intelikey> programmer error.  they've fot Desktop hard-coded into naut
[10:57] <_ian_> thnx
[10:57] <intelikey> :)
[10:57] <spanglesontoast> ah so it is actually a proper kernel module thingy
[10:57] <Hoxzer_> jlund: would you cry for hapiness if I'd fuck you decently?
[10:57] <mwright1night> does anyone here use FreeNX?
[10:57] <cafuego> e-fonz: You can enable even more completion by enabling the bottom few files in /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:57] <encompass> I have just installed a camera, it looks like it detect it properly but what is the best way to test this device?
[10:58] <BjornW> anyone got some experiences with adding icons to an application launcher?
[10:58] <thoeger> Okay, my problem with x dieing is still valid...
[10:58] <e-fonz> cafuego: not too much at once ;)
[10:58] <MrSkalman> BjornW, prova Gnomemeeting
[10:58] <jlund> Hoxzer_: WTF
[10:58] <cafuego> e-fonz: Doing that can autocomplete command loine params to the package tools. very useful :-)
[10:58] <BjornW> MrSkalman: I don't understand..
[10:59] <encompass> I tried using the multimedia systems selector and my computer locked... any ideas?
[10:59] <MrSkalman> use Gnomemeeting to test cam
[10:59] <encompass> it was when I tried to test the camera
[10:59] <encompass> ok sure
[10:59] <kalif> anybody with knowledge on softwareraid?
[10:59] <cafuego> Hoxzer_: Can you go to the web and read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[10:59] <intelikey> cafuego with bash-completion on or even off ?
[10:59] <thoeger> ...but got another one: At gnome login I get a warning that My .dmrc has got the wrong ownership and permissions.... But when I do a ls-l they seem perfectly right... ???
[10:59] <cafuego> jlund: If the hardware isn't broken, it should hibernate just fine.
[10:59] <e-fonz> cafuego: thanks wrote it all down! gonna goof around with it!
[10:59] <Hoxzer_> cafuego: I might but I might not
[10:59] <cafuego> intelikey: on
[11:00] <_ian_> cafyuego which of the themes do i need ? is it window border?
[11:00] <cafuego> _ian_: Why not try all? :-)
[11:00] <thoeger> MrSkalman: Inte alla hr frstr deg... ;)
[11:00] <intelikey> yeah i like bash-completion, but i didn't think that would work unless you turn it on.
[11:00] <_ian_> hehe
[11:00] <Toma-> anyone know how to apply a diff patch file?
[11:00] <jlund> cafuego: Do any logs get written anywhere upon suspend? It would be helpful to see what is going wrong.
[11:00] <MrSkalman> thoeger, Mrkte det :)
[11:00] <Toma-> i always thought -p1 worked from the directory above it?
[11:00] <weekang> hi, i'm having trouble getting skype to work on breezy
[11:01] <cafuego> intelikey: You can enable it in /etc/bash.bashrc (that includes /etc/bash_completion)
[11:01] <kalif> I need som device explanation from /proc/mdstat. what is device dm-11 and dm-12
[11:01] <Bjoern-Erik> Can anyone tell me how to disable automount of CD-ROMs in KDE?
[11:01] <cafuego> Toma-: if the patch isn't broken...
[11:01] <gerald-volt> is firefox 1.5 on the repositories?
[11:01] <cafuego> !firefox1.5
[11:01] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:01] <intelikey> yeah or source it from ./.bashrc  :)
[11:01] <GTroy> anyone know what to do when your wifi drops, and activating it again doesn't work?
[11:01] <thoeger> gerald-volt: No...
[11:01] <munzir> Sirs, where can I find the plugin that let gaim speak paltalk and google talk
[11:01] <thoeger> darn, too slow again
[11:01] <carelezz> !firefox1.5
[11:01] <cafuego> jlund: Probably /va/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log
[11:02] <carelezz> !touch
[11:02] <ubotu> carelezz: Are you smoking crack?
[11:02] <cafuego> jlund: Is your swap partition larger then your ram size?
[11:02] <weekang> can someone help me with skype?  "skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[11:02] <weekang>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[11:02] <weekang> "
[11:02] <gerald-volt> how do icheck my kernel version
[11:02] <cafuego> gerald-volt: 'uname -r'
[11:03] <cafuego> weekang: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[11:03] <jlund> cafuego: Yes
[11:03] <weekang> ok i'll try
[11:03] <weekang> thx
[11:03] <thoeger> Any PPC Users in here?
[11:03] <cafuego> thoeger: yes
[11:03] <e-fonz> cafuego: Thanks again, i'll be back!
[11:04] <thoeger> cafuego: It should be possible to enable SideTrack-style trackpad scrolling on an iBook - got any experiance with that?
[11:04] <alphabet`> cafuego: thanks it all worked perfectly.
[11:05] <cafuego> thoeger: No... not running Linux on the iBook until I can get airport extreme to work.
[11:05] <weekang> cafuego: u mean i should 'sudo apt-get -f install libqt3c102-mt' ?
[11:05] <_ian_> bye
[11:05] <thoeger> cafuego: I see - it was worth a shot though...
[11:05] <cafuego> weekang: No, juist 'sudo apt-get -f install' should pull it in.
[11:07] <thoeger> anyone to hwom an .xsession-errors file isn't gibberish?
[11:07] <weekang> cafuego: no it didn't
[11:07] <cafuego> thoeger: put it on the pastebin
[11:07] <weekang> cafuego: it removed skype
[11:07] <morphix> i changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?
[11:07] <cafuego> weekang: Ok, just 'sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt' then.
[11:07] <thoeger> cafuego - pastebin?
[11:07] <cafuego> weekang: D'oh :-)
[11:07] <cafuego> !paste
[11:07] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:07] <thoeger> (new to IRC )
[11:07] <intelikey> pour water on it cafuego quickly  8-{
[11:07] <spanglesontoast> how would I resize my ubuntu partition
[11:08] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <spanglesontoast> if my whole distro is just on one partition like /
[11:08] <morphix> qtparted
[11:08] <vbhanu> how can i solve this
[11:08] <weekang> cafuego: that didn't work either
[11:08] <cafuego> weekang: What error?
[11:08] <morphix> spanglesontoast qtparted
[11:08] <intelikey> spanglesontoast don't,  just add another partition to it.
[11:08] <weekang> Package libqt3c102-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:08] <weekang> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:08] <weekang> is only available from another source
[11:08] <weekang> However the following packages replace it:
[11:08] <weekang>   libqt3-mt
[11:08] <spanglesontoast> so you can't in other words
[11:09] <weekang> and sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt tells me that it is already installed
[11:09] <cafuego> Typical.
[11:09] <cafuego> weekang: You might be in for a treat with the 'equivs' package then.
[11:09] <weekang> ok cool
[11:09] <weekang> install?
[11:09] <cafuego> !info libqt3c102-mt
[11:09] <jlund> cafuego: Why did you ask if my swap size was bigger than my RAM in regards to my suspend issue?
[11:10] <cafuego> jlund: suspend would fail if it couldn't store the ram contents on disk (it dumps onto swap)
[11:10] <intelikey> jlund you can not dump ram to disk if the swap partition is smaller than the ram
[11:10] <cafuego> weekang: Yep. Install & read docs. You'll need to make a fake 'libqt3c102-mt' package using equivs.
[11:10] <jlund> cafuego: Ah, I see. I'm trying to suspend to ram though
[11:10] <cafuego> jlund: aaaahhhh...
[11:11] <maskd> omg im only using 1/5th of my total ram capacity
[11:11] <weekang> cafuego: ok cool thanks
[11:11] <zelevw> Hi guys...my OS is not working (ubuntu 5.10)..it complains: Read-only file system...nothing runs
[11:11] <zelevw> any help is greatly appreciated
[11:11] <ProN00b> i need a dos rescue cd for flashing my bios, can anyone point me to some resources ?
[11:11] <maskd> zelevw: is that on boot?
[11:11] <cafuego> ProN00b: floppy ok?
[11:12] <zelevw> maskd: im in x now
[11:12] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?
[11:12] <intelikey> maskd hmmm i'm using a bit more that that percent wise but i only have 64m
[11:12] <maskd> intelikey: hehe i have 1gb
[11:12] <ProN00b> nope, cafuego laptot got no floppy drive
[11:12] <zelevw> but if i tail -f /var/log/messages i can see the problem over and over
[11:12] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 14.9/61.1 MB (24%)
[11:12] <maskd> with windows i would be using damn near 800-1000mb of it
[11:12] <thoeger> cafuego: My xsession-errors is on wwww.fys.ku.dk/~thoeger/xsession-errors now...
[11:12] <cafuego> ProN00b: floppy image ok, that you can write to cd as boot sector?
[11:12] <zelevw> maskd: and when i reboot the shutdown of everything fails because of the read only file system
[11:13] <maskd> zelevw: what type of partition is it?
[11:13] <intelikey> i really like this distro....
[11:13] <zelevw> ext3
[11:13] <maskd> intelikey: which one?
[11:13] <cafuego> thoeger: just a moment...
[11:13] <intelikey> never you mind which.
[11:13] <maskd> intelikey: aww cmon tell me
[11:13] <maskd> zelevw: mmm
[11:13] <ProN00b> you mean i can burn a floppy immage to cd, cafuego, how ?
[11:13] <intelikey> no ......
[11:14] <cafuego> ProN00b: A bootable DOS cd uses a dos floppy image as boot sector on the cd. 'cdrecord' allows you to create them.
[11:14] <marccd> is it posible for my MTA (postfix) to require AUTH only on external users (meaning not in my local network?)
[11:14] <cafuego> ProN00b: I have a bootable floppy image, all you'd need to do is add the bios flasher to it, then burn as disc.
[11:14] <cafuego> marccd: yes.
[11:15] <sarah> hallo
[11:15] <thoeger> sarah: Hello
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: where should I look for info?
[11:15] <cafuego> marccd: add the local network to mynetworks
[11:15] <cafuego> marccd: ... that should be all there is to it.
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: oh, so its automatic?, cool
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: thanks :D
[11:16] <maskd> zelevw: what does your fstab look like, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:16] <morphix> :/
[11:16] <cafuego> thoeger: looks like gbubiff isn't starting properly
[11:17] <Seveas> !poke
[11:17] <Seveas> mornin' all
[11:17] <GTroy> hello good sir
[11:17] <GnarlyBob> !peek
[11:17] <ubotu> GnarlyBob: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:17] <intelikey> yo
[11:17] <cafuego> Seveas: hey, do you need a mirror for your .deb repository?
[11:17] <maskd> good evening Seveas
[11:17] <Seveas> cafuego, mirrors are good :)
[11:17] <thoeger> cafuego: No, that's been a problem for some time - it shouldn't start at all actually. But thing is, gdesklets is my main suspect... it crashes my x totally
[11:18] <morphix> hmm..
[11:18] <cafuego> Seveas: I need to piss off and go drink now, but shall ask again in the new year. I have a Linode being mainly idle :-)
[11:18] <Seveas> cafuego, cheers, have fun with the booze :)
[11:18] <Seveas> rofl
[11:18] <ajmitch> cafuego: enjoy :)
[11:19] <cafuego> thoeger: I have to go.... but then, I don't know much about gdesklets. (Mine crasha ll the time, so i stopped using them)
[11:19] <Seveas> many desklets are utterly broken
[11:19] <Seveas> I downloaded a calculator desklet once
[11:19] <gerald-volt> if i'musing an athlonxp, should I use the linux k7 kernel?
[11:19] <Seveas> couldn't even calculate 1+1+1
[11:19] <thoeger> cafuego: thanx anyway -
[11:19] <maskd> is a desklet an equivalent to apple's widgets?
[11:19] <morphix> hmm
[11:19] <Seveas> gerald-volt, it would work
[11:20] <gerald-volt> would it be recommended
[11:20] <thoeger> Seveas: its not any specific desklet, it's the app itself
[11:20] <gerald-volt> cuz right now, I
[11:20] <gerald-volt> I am using 386
[11:20] <gerald-volt> kernel
[11:20] <Seveas> it might be a bit faster although I doubt it'll be noticable
[11:20] <gerald-volt> ic
[11:21] <ProN00b> cafuego, can you give me the commands you use ?
[11:21] <maskd> i thought you meant you're using a 386
[11:21] <gerald-volt> i don't know
[11:21] <maskd> it's only 9:30 and im already this tired..
[11:21] <gerald-volt> I'm using kernel for 386
[11:21] <gerald-volt> but my cpu is athlonxp
[11:22] <maskd> gerald-volt: how well does your system run now? do you see any need to change it?
[11:22] <thoeger> bye folks...
[11:23] <morphix> can somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC
[11:24] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?
[11:24] <gerald-volt> well that's the thing
[11:24] <gerald-volt> i dont know
[11:24] <gerald-volt> everything runs smooth
[11:24] <omen> hello
[11:24] <gerald-volt> and fairly fast
[11:24] <maskd> gerald-volt: then dont worry about it!
[11:25] <Seveas> vbhanu, apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"
[11:25] <gerald-volt> but there just seems to have a slight delay when I click something
[11:25] <maskd> if it aint broke, dont fix it
[11:25] <gerald-volt> i don't knwo
[11:25] <gerald-volt> it's hard to explain
[11:25] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[11:25] <gerald-volt> comparing to windows
[11:25] <omen> does ubuntu have a make command?
[11:25] <Seveas> gerald-volt, then just try it, you can always go back
[11:25] <Seveas> !tell omen about compiling
[11:25] <vbhanu> Seveas : do you want  apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true" or  apt-get install kde -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"?
[11:26] <Seveas> vbhanu, either
[11:27] <gerald-volt> is there a kernel guide for ubuntu
[11:27] <gerald-volt> or shoudl I just dig out my gentoo handbook
[11:27] <weekang> hey, can someone point me to a man file or something for the equivs package?
[11:27] <Seveas> !kernel
[11:27] <Seveas> ubotu, test
[11:27] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[11:27] <weekang> i have it installed but can't find any instructions or man pages
[11:27] <Seveas> gerald-volt, it's on the wiki
[11:28] <gerald-volt> aight
[11:28] <Seveas> weekang, man equivs-control; man equivs-build
[11:28] <morphix> can somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC
[11:28] <Seveas> morphix, try pci=routeirq as boot parameter
[11:29] <weekang> Seveas: thanks!
[11:29] <morphix> Seveas how exactly do i put that in GRUB?
[11:29] <Seveas> morphix, at the line startin with #KOPT
[11:29] <Seveas> and after that run update-grub
[11:30] <morphix> ..?
[11:30] <morphix> cant i just do command and then manually place it here?
[11:30] <Seveas> sure, hit [ESC]  during boot
[11:30] <morphix> then C
[11:31] <morphix> i think?
[11:31] <Seveas> hit e to edit, go to the 'kernel ...' line, etc...
[11:31] <morphix> hm..
[11:31] <Seveas> the grub boot screen has instructions ;)
[11:31] <morphix> faint 1's
[11:33] <mihai_> Please help. Why do I get "power calibration failed" in GnomeBaker when I try to write a CD?
[11:35] <calamari> hi
[11:35] <Seveas> oi
[11:35] <calamari> I think I might be screwed.. but just want to see if there is hope:
[11:36] <calamari> I enlarged my ext2 partition with parted.. rebooted.. everything was fine.. rebooted again an gnome wouldn't start
[11:36] <calamari> ran e2fsck and got a TON of errors.. fixed them all
[11:37] <calamari> of course gnome still won't start.. was missing important libs like libX11.. so I installed what it complained about missing
[11:37] <morphix> mihai_ that usually happens when your cdr is buggered and also if your cdrw drive isnt getting sufficient power
[11:37] <morphix> try changing the cdr disc
[11:37] <calamari> now it simply says that gnome-session cannot open the display
[11:37] <mihai_> morphix, I try to burn a cd-rw
[11:37] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> selamlar
[11:37] <morphix> try using a different disc.
[11:37] <mihai_> morphix, could this be the problem. just erased it
[11:37] <morphix> i reckon its more then likely the disc.
[11:37] <morphix> possibly
[11:38] <morphix> when i use faulty discs i get that error.
[11:38] <Seveas> AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI, this is an english channel, please stick to english
[11:38] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> no
[11:38] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> yes turks0131h
[11:39] <calamari> am I even trying to run gnome correctly?
[11:39] <mihai_> morphix, first time I burn a cd by myself
[11:39] <Seveas> calamari, that indeed sounds like you're screwed
[11:39] <mihai_> morphix, I want it to work
[11:39] <calamari> I'm trying "sudo gnome-session", dunno if that's right
[11:40] <Seveas> calamari, you could try apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f 1 -d ' '`
[11:40] <calamari> is there a way to have apt check my packages for missing files?
[11:40] <Seveas> calamari, no, you should simply try startx
[11:40] <Seveas> not sudo gnome-session
[11:40] <mihai_> morphix, Performing OPC...
[11:40] <mihai_> cdrecord: OPC failed.
[11:40] <mihai_> I get this too
[11:41] <calamari> seveas.. that will scroll off in a second.. may I leave #ubuntu and you paste that in a private message ?
[11:41] <nekostar> now if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?
[11:42] <morphix> Seveas it didnt fix my prob :(
[11:42] <bob_4_a_day> i have 'nome and kde installed....
[11:43] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, because it's a kde app :)
[11:43] <Seveas> morphix, then I have no more clues
[11:43] <bob_4_a_day> your point is ?
[11:43] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, the gnome menus won't show kde apps
[11:43] <marccd> hmm where can I find mmencode for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <marccd> ahh nevemind, it is named mimencode in here
[11:43] <gerald-volt> how do I make all the grey stuff in firefox a lightr grey colour
[11:43] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas it does... kmail kppp konquror....
[11:44] <gerald-volt> like the stuf surrounding the buttons
[11:44] <gerald-volt> the color of the tabs
[11:44] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, those are bugs
[11:44] <bob_4_a_day> but no knosole
[11:44] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, the gnome menus *shouldn't* show kde apps :)
[11:44] <morphix> i am sure i just need to install devices thats all
[11:44] <liable> why? kde shows gnome apps..
[11:44] <morphix> i dunno how to tho
[11:45] <liable> bob_4_a_day: look in the debian menu if you have one.
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> yeah well i guess 'nome is just defacient that way...
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> liable all i have is an aplications and an actions menus
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hmm - not only does the gnome menu show kde apps - it even shows icons here on breezy
[11:48] <marccd> cafuego: still there?
[11:48] <bob_4_a_day> odd the only thing i can't find is konsole
[11:49] <VitorBeltrao> ooops
[11:49] <VitorBeltrao> sorry
[11:50] <calamari> re's
[11:51] <brrrt> hello
[11:52] <brrrt> i upgraded from warty to breezy, now i have a problem with typing a "@"
[11:52] <morphix> is there a way i can 'rescan' for hardware and ubuntu will set the new stuff up?
[11:52] <bob_4_a_day> i fixed it, the terminal launcher on the main panal; i reprogramed it to start konsole in place of 'nome terminal.
[11:52] <brrrt> and everytime i logon i gett an error box
[11:52] <Yeahnude> When i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why?
[11:52] <twilight> brrrt, the error box is about xkb?
[11:53] <brrrt> yes!
[11:53] <twilight> brrrt, search it on bugzilla.ubuntu.co, is a solved bug
[11:53] <brrrt> thx!
[11:54] <maskd> Yeahnude: you didnt do an 'expert' install did you?
[11:54] <stark-johan> This problem is probably pretty simple or totally impossible to solve. I've logged onto icq via gaim on my fresh installation of ubuntu and I can't send or recieve file transfers. I understand this issue is well known but I read at the gaim FAQ that the file transfers with icq should be working in gaim 1.5.0. Am I doing it the wrong way or is it simply not working yet? I'm dragging and dropping...
[11:54] <xiaogil> At the boot, I have the following error msg : "mounting local filesystem failed". What shall I do ?
[11:55] <Stew_Lappy> anyone running breezy on a dell inspiron got the sd card reader working?
[11:56] <Yeahnude> When i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why? ?
[11:56] <calamari> when I was in synaptic I disabled my ubuntu cdrom repository.. how can I get it back from the command line ?
[11:56] <maskd> Yeahnude: you didnt do an "expert" installation did you?
[11:56] <kemik> stark-johan:  dont think icq-filetransfers is availble unless you run the gaim beta
[11:56] <Yeahnude> maskd yes i took full
[11:56] <bob_4_a_day> havent i seen that before.....
[11:57] <maskd> Yeahnude: so when installing, you put in expert at the boot: prompt?
[11:57] <senectus> I have a small .ace file that I can't extract because it's using an unkown compression, can someone help me out here?
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> Yeahnude needs to add himself to the admin group
[11:58] <Khaine> hey
[11:58] <stark-johan> kemik > the 2.0 beta? is that available as a package or will I have to compile it manually?
[11:58] <maskd> hi Khaine
[11:58] <kemik> stark-johan:  compile afaik
[11:58] <Khaine> I just started using ubuntu
[11:59] <Khaine> I switched from gentoo
[11:59] <paal> ok
[11:59] <Khaine> I must say that I am very impressed, with how well it works out of the box
[12:00] <nekostar> now if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?
[12:00] <maskd> Khaine: I know, my motherboard with windows needs to get drivers installed for the network to work, and it all works with ubuntu
[12:00] <stark-johan> kemik > thanks, I'll try that and report back.
[12:00] <morphix> how do i reconfigure a NIC using ifconfig?
[12:00] <Digis> senectus, install package "unace"
[12:00] <Stew_Lappy> I just installed on a laptop and I am very impressed, works better than suse 9 or 10 eer did
[12:01] <Khaine> some things are weird but, coming from gentoo, but overall I'm very happy with it
[12:01] <Yeahnude> maskd no but i could chose.. "server" < only little of ubuntu and full someething like that. When i click on "user accounts" (i have swedish ubuntu, im not good on translate) It says Child status 1 .. login as root
[12:01] <senectus> Digis, done that, but it tells me "File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible.
[12:01] <senectus> "
[12:01] <Digis> senectus, u tryed "unace e filename.ace"?
[12:02] <maskd> Yeahnude: Go to terminal, and try the command sudo users-admin
[12:02] <senectus> Digis, yes
[12:02] <senectus> Digis, and that is exaclty what it tells me
[12:03] <Digis> so, u need original winace tools :)
[12:03] <Yeahnude> maskd im new, how i go to terminal? :) i know terminal is the commando prompt
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> maskd if Yeahnude did and expert install he/she probably set a root password,  use 'su - '   then set it up from the root account.
[12:03] <senectus> Digis, :rollseyes: not much help to me that is. I don't _have_ any windows machines anymore
[12:03] <Digis> senectus, U can try compiling http://www.maxeline.com/winace/linunace22.tgz
[12:04] <robbster> lo all. I've just installed breezy on my home pc. had mandrake, but I wanted a change. I just need some pointer on how to get windows up and running again? It's already installed.
[12:04] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: yeah i know but he didn't do an expert install
[12:04] <maskd> Yeahnude: the Terminal is in Applications > Accessories
[12:04] <Whistler> i have a tough question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> then whys the default user not in the admin group  <--- assumes default user account.
[12:05] <Badm4n> why i cant apt-get install pico
[12:05] <Badm4n> why i cant apt-get install pico after i apt-get remove nano ... cause i'd like pico more than nano
[12:05] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: no idea, but he says he didnt do an expert install
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n isn't pico installed ?
[12:05] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# pico
[12:05] <Badm4n> bash: /usr/bin/pico: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> maskd server does that too
[12:05] <Seveas> Badm4n, because pico is not free software
[12:05] <Badm4n> no i think
[12:05] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: ah.
[12:06] <Seveas> nano is about the same as pico, I didn't find any differences yet
[12:06] <Whistler> i have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:06] <Badm4n> my keypad doesnt work on it ( nano )
[12:06] <Badm4n> :D
[12:06] <Badm4n> that make me dificult when i must put several number
[12:06] <maskd> i like gedit ;)
[12:06] <Whistler> i like mousepad
[12:06] <Whistler> its fast and easy to use
[12:06] <Badm4n> any idea to make it work ?
[12:07] <Stew_Lappy> joe :)
[12:07] <Yeahnude> maskd i have used that commando, sudo user-admin , it sayd, password and i filled it in.. should it work now?
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n do sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico
[12:07] <Badm4n> lolz
[12:07] <maskd> Yeahnude: did it start up?
[12:07] <maskd> if not
[12:07] <Badm4n> that will load nano
[12:07] <Badm4n> :D
[12:07] <maskd> type "su", then enter the password you made for root
[12:07] <Badm4n> my keypad doesnt work on nano
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> that's what pico is on ubuntu.  a symlink to nano
[12:08] <weekang> help
[12:08] <weekang> i'm having trouble using equivs to simulate an uninstallable package
[12:08] <Whistler> i have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:08] <Badm4n> omg...
[12:09] <weekang> basically i create a fake package but it is still uninstallable due to conflicts with an already installed package
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> !info picocom
[12:09] <ubotu> picocom: (minimal dumb-terminal emulation program), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n ^
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> try that then
[12:09] <marccd> how can I see the user:group a process runs on?
[12:09] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pic
[12:09] <Badm4n> ln: `/usr/bin/pic': File exists
[12:09] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[12:09] <Yeahnude> maskd root@server: /home/admin it says in the terminal
[12:10] <bob_4_a_day> pic ????    no no no Badm4n pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> ln: `/usr/bin/pico': File exists
[12:10] <Badm4n> see
[12:10] <Badm4n> :D
[12:11] <bob_4_a_day> ran it twice maybe ?
[12:11] <Badm4n> type it twice ?
[12:11] <bob_4_a_day> no i was ascing if you already did
[12:11] <docta_v> so is /usr/bin/pico linked to nano?
[12:11] <morphix> :@
[12:11] <docta_v> maybe you should check that
[12:11] <Whistler> does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:12] <Badm4n> docta_v : correct
[12:12] <Badm4n> after i type apt-get install nano
[12:12] <Badm4n> it create it by it self
[12:12] <calamari> Seveas: just fyi: the cut part of what you gave me needed to be cut -f 1   instead of -cut -f 1 -d ' '   .. I guess it is really using a tab and not a space.. at least on mine
[12:12] <ubunt-new> why when i do sudo apt-get instann nmap it does not install
[12:13] <Whistler> ubunt-new try sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:13] <ubunt-new>  sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:13] <ubunt-new> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[12:13] <ubunt-new> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[12:13] <ubunt-new> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmap
[12:13] <Whistler> it that doesnt work check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <ubunt-new> i donno
[12:13] <Adross> is there a screensaver wherein headlines from a specified newsfeed(usually rss) are displayed?
[12:14] <bob_4_a_day> !info nmap
[12:14] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[12:14] <Whistler> ubunt-new type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Whistler> and enable needen repositories
[12:14] <Badm4n> bob_4_a_day : any other solution ?
[12:15] <Whistler> does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:15] <bob_4_a_day> to what problem Badm4n ?
[12:15] <cyphase> how do you make a command output to a file and the screen?
[12:15] <mirak> hi
[12:15] <mirak> when I open firefox I just have a small window that open with xml code in it
[12:16] <docta_v> cyphase: tee
[12:16] <Draken> anyone know how to bridge two network cards in linux ?
[12:16] <cyphase> docta_v, thanx
[12:16] <mirak> Draken: what do you want to do ?
[12:17] <morphix> i think i buggered up my /etc/network/interfaces config
[12:17] <ubunt-new>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <ubunt-new> nothing happens
[12:17] <ubunt-new> it hangs
[12:17] <morphix> can someone show me what a default 'untouched' config looks like
[12:17] <thegladiator> hi
[12:18] <thegladiator> i have loaded a hard disk that got damaged few monhts back ...
[12:18] <thegladiator> i woul like to check if linux detects it
[12:18] <Draken> mirak
[12:18] <Draken> u know in windows when u bridge connections ?
[12:18] <mirak> yes
[12:18] <Badm4n> at pico ... i can use my keypad freely to put number like ip or something else
[12:18] <Badm4n> at nano : i cant do that
[12:18] <mwe> thegladiator: dmesg|grep hd
[12:19] <mirak> I know I needed it on windows some times, but I never needed that on linux, so I am wondering why one ould need it
[12:19] <docta_v> Badm4n: is numlock on?
[12:19] <mirak> Dr_Acemaster:
[12:19] <Draken> err well, i got two network cards
[12:19] <Badm4n> yes
[12:19] <Draken> to two diffrent ppl, i want to bridge them, and make it one
[12:19] <thegladiator> mwe, it doesnt show the seagate hdd
[12:19] <Badm4n> if i turn numlock off it apears like a help menu
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: on linux you can act as a gateway
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: type route
[12:20] <mwe> thegladiator: then probably it doesn't see. however try dmesg|less and look for it
[12:20] <Draken> but im not the gateway
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: google and man route
[12:20] <Draken> another computer
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: yes but you act as a router
[12:20] <justin_> Draken have you looked into bridge-utils?
[12:20] <Badm4n> !pico
[12:20] <ubotu> Badm4n: What?
[12:20] <Draken> i tried justin_
[12:21] <Draken> i really didnt know wat was going on
[12:21] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n vim work for you ?
[12:21] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about pico
[12:21] <justin_> do you have kernel support?
[12:21] <Badm4n> !info pico
[12:21] <thegladiator> mwe, thank you
[12:21] <mwe> thegladiator: also look in /proc/ide, asuming it's ide of course
[12:21] <No1Viking> When I try to connect to another shared file I get a window to authenticate, how do I do to get rid of that?
[12:21] <Badm4n> bob_4_a_day : not friendly to use vim or vi :D
[12:21] <thegladiator> yep
[12:22] <mirak> Draken: for me you just need to put a route eth1 --> eth0 and vice versa
[12:22] <Draken> but then, can they get to me ?
[12:22] <mirak> Draken: what is the network layout ?
[12:23] <Draken> computer 1   ----------- ME    --------------- computer 2 ( has internet)
[12:23] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n yeah i don't particularly like vi/m either....  ever use joe or jed or mc's built in editor  mc is nice and friendly
[12:23] <mwe> Badm4n: try /msg ubotu foo to get info about foo
[12:23] <mwe> vim is nice if you learn to use it properly
[12:24] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n install mc and try  mc -e <some.file>
[12:24] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[12:24] <bob_4_a_day> mwe i know it has it's place but that is not in my hands... :)
[12:24] <mwe> Badm4n: if you like pico, you'll probably like the free clone nano as well
[12:25] <sdog> anyone knows about working mythtv packages for breezy (amd)
[12:25] <bob_4_a_day> mwe you've not been keeping up...
[12:25] <mp3guy> hey, is there any program that can cycle your gnome desktop picture in an interval?
[12:25] <mwe> bob_4_a_day: what do you mean?
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> nm
[12:26] <morphix> can someone show me what a default 'untouched' /etc/network/interfaces config looks like, so i can fix mine back up
[12:26] <mirak> Draken: well for me you should google on "route"
[12:26] <mwe> morphix: no because the installer creates on for you, so the default differs
[12:26] <mirak> man route
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> mwe the whole point of the descussion about pico is that nano doesn't function correctly for him
[12:26] <mirak> Draken: I don't have done that since a long time
[12:27] <mwe> bob_4_a_day: heh. ok I see. just dropped in
[12:27] <Badm4n> docta_v & bob_4_a_day : thx anyway i think it's all about nano :D not pico :D
[12:27] <Badm4n> btw
[12:27] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?
[12:27] <Badm4n> no need to install nmap ?
[12:27] <e-fonz> any one know about Gnucash?
[12:27] <ubunt-new> how do i install nmap
[12:27] <Polly_Morf> apt-get install nmap
[12:27] <liable> morphix: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[12:28] <xiaogil> When I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?
[12:28] <ubunt-new> it does not work
[12:28] <marccd> where can I search for ubuntu packages on the web?
[12:28] <Polly_Morf> error?
[12:28] <morphix> mwe i mean what the default would be configure for dhcp
[12:28] <Polly_Morf> what errormessages?
[12:28] <voicu> whoever gave me that source-o-matic link, thanks a lot, i finally got kde3.5 installed
[12:29] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new already installed ?
[12:29] <mwe> voicu: yeah it's kinda cool
[12:29] <justin_> ubunt-new do you have permissions set to use apt-get with your user?
[12:29] <ubunt-new> nmap
[12:29] <ubunt-new> bash: nmap: command not found
[12:30] <Badm4n> dc :D
[12:30] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?
[12:30] <Badm4n> no need to install nmap ?
[12:30] <mikelo> hi do i unrar a file?
[12:30] <liable> morphix: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:30] <mwe> you need to use sudo for apt-get install
[12:30] <ubunt-new> yes i am root
[12:30] <mikelo> i tried unrar in sunaptic but it didn't work
[12:30] <joost> mikelo: install rar
[12:30] <liable> morphix: thats it, if you want it at boot, add auto eth0 on line above
[12:31] <morphix> i have.
[12:31] <mikelo> i used unrar
[12:31] <marccd> anybody up to a challenge with postfix/sasl?
[12:31] <Toma-> anyone here using dapper? wanna test something for me?
[12:31] <e-fonz> mikelo: you need to do that in terminal
[12:31] <morphix> but eth0 when i bring the device up.. doesnt get an ip
[12:31] <justin_> ubunt-new ... so what was the error message
[12:31] <mikelo> yeah of course
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmap-frontend
[12:31] <twilight> Toma-, if i can ..
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmapfe  even
[12:32] <e-fonz> mikelo rar e <filename.rar>
[12:32] <ubunt-new> sudo apt-get install nmapfe
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Password:
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[12:32] <ubunt-new> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmapfe
[12:32] <mikelo> e-fonz, ok
[12:32] <ubunt-new> it says could not find package
[12:32] <morphix> it just has "Link encap: ethernet, etc" then next like is "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST"
[12:32] <e-fonz> worked for me
[12:32] <mikelo> joost,  thanx
[12:32] <Toma-> twilight: its just the new amsn. wanna see if the new static libs work a treat in dapper. http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/amsn_0.95-3.deb
[12:32] <morphix> normally on the 2nd line it has the IP, etc
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> ubunt-new: nmap-frontend does not exist
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> just install nmap
[12:32] <ubunt-new> yes same error
[12:32] <justin_> why don't you just use nmap
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> apt-get install nmap
[12:32] <ubunt-new> coulld not find packaged
[12:32] <bob_4_a_day> i cant read that spam thingy  so could you translate the error message ubunt-new ?
[12:33] <Toma-> nmapfe is what youre all after
[12:33] <ubunt-new> could not find the package
[12:33] <mwe> just prefix it with LANGUAGE=C
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> !repso
[12:33] <ubotu> bob_4_a_day: Wish i knew
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[12:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new ^
[12:34] <No1Viking> !tell ubunt-new about repos
[12:34] <Polly_Morf> ubuntu-new: I can see youre swedish... joina #linux.se p quakenet. en vldigt trevlig kanal
[12:34] <e-fonz> mikelo: just type rar in terminal to get commandlist
[12:34] <twilight> Toma-, perfect installation
[12:34] <mwe> ubunt-new: I don't have a nmapfe package file either. only just nmap
[12:35] <twilight> Toma-, I have to see something else?
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> !info nampfe
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> !info nmapfe
[12:35] <ubotu> nmapfe: (The Network Mapper Front End), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> i'm getting tired....
[12:35] <mikelo> e-fonz: i did that the thing is that i can't mangae to keep the same directory structure i have in the in archive
[12:35] <Toma-> twilight: pefect :) thanks for that
[12:36] <morphix> :(
[12:36] <joost> mikelo: maybe use unrar x
[12:37] <mikelo> joost, thanx anyway
[12:37] <joost> mikelo   x  means:           Extract files with full path
[12:37] <No1Viking> Why do I need to authenticate to a samba share?
[12:37] <e-fonz> 05mikelo: rar x <filename.rar>?
[12:38] <Khaine> does anyone know why eclipse-sdk needs mozilla-browser ?
[12:38] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ? or i must do something else to make my mrtg running
[12:38] <justin_> Khaine it needs the mozilla runtime libs
[12:38] <ubunt-new> can i do sudo apt get install repositorires
[12:38] <mikelo> the directories' characters have accents that's why it doesn't work well
[12:39] <e-fonz> mikelo: just learned how to unrar this morning, so my knowledge is limited ;)
[12:39] <afief> What's the difference between the various linux file systems?
[12:39] <Khaine> ic
[12:39] <morphix> :(
[12:39] <bob_4_a_day> nope ubunt-new  but you can do apt-setup maybe
[12:39] <justin_> eclipse was designed to built against that lib
[12:39] <morphix> stupid config
[12:39] <e-fonz> mikelo
[12:40] <Khaine> ok, it just kinda seemed weird, but that makes sense
[12:40] <Saboo> Morning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something.  the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input
[12:40] <e-fonz> mikelo: put filename in quotes!!! ""
[12:40] <No1Viking> It says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?
[12:40] <Khaine> I suppose it would be slightly nicer to have the libs as a seperate package
[12:41] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:41] <ubunt-new> i opens to insert a cd
[12:41] <justin_> what do you expect considering the main contributor
[12:41] <afief> Is there any reason to use EXT3? all the online reviews i saw say it lost in the comparission
[12:41] <Khaine> huh?
[12:41] <ubunt-new> what to do to insert the cd
[12:42] <docta_v> afief: it's considered to be more battle tested than reiserfs
[12:42] <docta_v> that's about it
[12:42] <justin_> Khaine IBM was a major contributor
[12:42] <bob_4_a_day> afief opposed to what ?
[12:42] <Badm4n> !Ping me
[12:42] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Badm4n
[12:42] <Khaine> oh ok, thats what your on about
[12:42] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:42] <afief> Zope, ReiserFS, Tar.gz and uncompressed TAR
[12:42] <Saboo> Anyone have a suggestion for me?
[12:42] <justin_> yeah sorry i've been up too long
[12:43] <Khaine> nah, its ok, I was thinking you were talking about a maintainer or something
[12:43] <morphix> is there a way i can reset the config for interfaces?
[12:43] <liable> morphix: what is the actual problem, i gave you what you needed for dhcp
[12:44] <Badm4n> !info mrt
[12:44] <Badm4n> !info mrtg
[12:44] <ubotu> mrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB
[12:44] <ubotu> mrt: (Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (BGP4+/BGP/RIPng/RIP2)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.2.2a-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 738 kB, Installed size: 1852 kB
[12:44] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:44] <xiaogil> When I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?
[12:44] <morphix> it isnt even trying to get an IP
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> i hardly see how one could compair ext3 and reiserfs to a tar archive, compressed or not.
[12:44] <liable> morphix: does dhclient eth0 work?
[12:44] <morphix> it had no 'inet addr: or mask
[12:44] <mwe> morphix: this is maybe too late, but next time you mess with the interfaces file, backup the original first
[12:44] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:44] <morphix> has*
[12:44] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:45] <liable> morphix: you want dhcp or static?
[12:45] <docta_v> e-fonz: we saw your question, we don't care
[12:45] <morphix> dhco
[12:45] <morphix> dhcp*
[12:45] <liable> morphix: then the line i gave you is all you need..
[12:45] <liable> morphix: paste what you put to #flood
[12:45] <Nicholas> hi everyone =)
[12:45] <apokryphos> ubunt-new: repositories aren't really installed, they're added
[12:46] <apokryphos> !tell ubunt-new about repositories
[12:46] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about mrtg
[12:46] <morphix> :/
[12:46] <morphix> i have to type it all out.. argh
[12:46] <MoonRanger> ubotu tell me about mrtg
[12:46] <No1Viking> It says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?
[12:46] <liable> morphix: what? six words! not like its that big a chore..
[12:47] <MoonRanger> !mrtg
[12:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, MoonRanger
[12:48] <Nicholas> i don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but: i am running Ubuntu 5.10 and I wanted to install KDE and I did the command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and well I saw the kubuntu splash screen and most kubuntu apps but i have the gnome panel system as my gui instead of kde can someone tell me whats wrong =) ?
[12:49] <bob_4_a_day> you guys asking about mrt/mrtg do know about the manual pages don't you ?
[12:49] <justin_> Nicholas are you using GDM?
[12:49] <Badm4n> how do i install repositories
[12:49] <Saboo> I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input...Any suggestions of what to do??
[12:49] <Nicholas> currently, yes but i installed the kubuntu desktop system via the apt-get command
[12:49] <e-fonz> docta_v: i don't need your crappy answer, telling me you don't know is enough!
[12:50] <bob_4_a_day> Nicholas logout and select the kde when you start to log in
[12:50] <Nicholas> k let me try
[12:50] <danny> !tell badm4n about respo
[12:50] <justin_> Nicholas - i haven't done this in a long time ... there is an environmental variable in one of the files in /etc that you change from gnome to kde
[12:51] <bob_4_a_day> danny you sleppy too ?
[12:51] <mwe> e-fonz: sometimes I don't see the new menu shortcut until I reboot
[12:51] <cyphase> is there a "professional", "scientific" comparison of Breezy and Windows XP?
[12:51] <cyphase> :)
[12:51] <mwe> e-fonz: or log out and back in
[12:51] <e-fonz> mwe: i rebooted several times, but still don't see it
[12:51] <danny> !tell badm4n about repos
[12:51] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[12:52] <danny> bob_4_a_day, i have just woke up
[12:52] <docta_v> e-fonz: i don't need you spamming my screen every 30 seconds
[12:52] <e-fonz> mwe: is there a way to find out where it is installed?
[12:52] <mwe> e-fonz: also sometimes a program dont provide a shorcut at least for kde, but I install menu and menu-xdg and it provides a Debian submenu that usually has the shortcut
[12:52] <mwe> e-fonz: yeah. dpkg -L gnucash|grep bin
[12:52] <e-fonz> mwe: Ok gonna try that
[12:53] <mwe> e-fonz: probably /usr/bin/gnucash
[12:53] <Nicholas> yay
[12:53] <Nicholas> it worked, thanks everyone =)
[12:53] <afief> Is there a way to change my filesystem without formating?
[12:53] <e-fonz> docta_v: A polite answer would do the trick too you know?
[12:53] <apokryphos> afief: no
[12:54] <afief> Any way to do it
[12:54] <afief> is there a way to backup my data and flush it onto a new filesystem after the format?
[12:54] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:55] <apokryphos> afief: yes. Put the data on another partition
[12:55] <e-fonz> mwe: thanks found the starter!
[12:55] <apokryphos> needless to say, it totally depends on what FS you're talking about here
[12:56] <afief> apokryphos: I think i'll try Reiser3 or 4... not sure yet which
[12:56] <bob_4_a_day> e-fonz to answer your question yes several ways to find executables.  easiest might be type 'which <app.name> '   also   find /usr/ -name <app.name>    or even locate <app.name>  but locate uses a database that must be updated between the install and the locate   howto is 'sudo updatedb '
[12:56] <Nikusan> ubunt-new, in synaptic goto settings -> repositories -> settings and then tick "show disabled repositories". Then enable them
[12:56] <afief> will copying the operation system to another portatition and copying it back again work?:S
[12:56] <afief> (my experience with windows says no, but this isn't windows)
[12:57] <apokryphos> afief: I don't think it will, no.
[12:57] <twilight> afief, only ext2 to ext3 it's possible without format.
[12:57] <bob_4_a_day> afief sure it will work.
[12:57] <Draken> err afief
[12:57] <Draken> it will work with windows
[12:58] <e-fonz> bob_4_a_day: found the starter, put in on my desktop, works fine! Thanks guys!
[12:58] <afief> well, i have abandoned windows for good:)
[12:58] <Draken> and if it doesnt, i just pop windows cd in, go to repair console, type fixboot,fixmbr,bootcfg /scan
[12:58] <Draken> then it should work
[12:58] <Draken> but i got grub win32, easy edit it in windows :D
[12:59] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:59] <Saboo> Is anmyone able to help me?
[01:00] <afief> okay so i will have to format for a new filesystem... i'll leave that till Drapper is out
[01:00] <Saboo> anyone*
[01:00] <afief> Saboo: rule 1: ask question then see if anyone can help you
[01:00] <Saboo> I have..
[01:00] <Saboo> Morning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input
[01:00] <morphix> can you and how do u get ubuntu to scan for hardware changes?
[01:00] <dodgyville> I have one of my desktops displaying on my tv, but it is way to large for the screen. Do I need to restrict the resolution in xorg.conf, or is there a simplier way?
[01:01] <afief> maybe you should start the installer with noscsi?
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> afief ubuntu's installed ignores 'noscsi'  and  'nousb'  i haven't found any way to skip either of those.
[01:02] <athlon_> ubuntu or apt made some changes on grub's menu.lst and now I cant find the option to boot Windows on grub
[01:03] <athlon_> is there a configuration program that scans for OS-es that I have and change grub accordingly
[01:03] <afief> well, i'm a noob myself... but i tried:)
[01:03] <faboulouz_> hello
[01:03] <faboulouz_> in dapper gnome menu crash, why ?
[01:03] <visik7> athlon_: is quite simple to modify by yourself /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:03] <nicholas1520> hi =)
[01:04] <visik7> faboulouz_: 'couse it's a develop release ?
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> afief it was a logical approach, it just don't work on ubuntu....
[01:04] <faboulouz_> and now ?
[01:04] <athlon_> visik7, its weird sometimes. The first time I boot, I cant go to my ubuntu cos grub said it couldnt find root(0,5). I had to change it to root(1,5). So I changed menu.lst myself to make the change permanent.
[01:05] <afief> well, i guess someone else will have to help our new friend then
[01:05] <athlon_> the next time I boot, it said it couldnt find a partition at root(1,5)
[01:05] <athlon_> and I had to change it back to root(0,5)
[01:05] <beruic> Can anyone help me in #wine?
[01:05] <bob_4_a_day> cyphase yeah, hehhe i don't compile anything i write; it's all bash.
[01:05] <athlon_> so now I am just going to let ubuntu change menu.lst automatically and save myself the headache
[01:06] <morphix> is there a way to list all IRQ's?
[01:06] <cyphase> bob_4_a_day, python for me :D
[01:06] <Bobl> can ubuntu read ntfs partitions?
[01:07] <Seveas> yes
[01:07] <Seveas> and write too :)
[01:07] <Bobl> Seveas, not experimental?
[01:07] <Seveas> yes, but so far working for me
[01:07] <Bobl> Seveas, sounds good :)
[01:08] <Casanova> hi.. i have an issue with hdparm can some one help me?
[01:08] <Seveas> !tell Casanova about someone
[01:08] <Casanova> :-)
[01:08] <morphix> i have got inet6 addr
[01:08] <bob_4_a_day> Bobl it reads nativly but write access to ntfs is still alpha maybe bata
[01:08] <morphix> i want a normal inet addr
[01:08] <morphix> not v6
[01:08] <morphix> argh
[01:08] <Casanova> when i start vlc i get the error saying libgail.so and libatk-bridge.so are not found
[01:09] <Casanova> but they are available
[01:09] <mwe> Seveas: the ntfs write support, is it the standard experimental kernel support?
[01:09] <Casanova> sorry this is not with hdparm
[01:09] <Bobl> read is enough for me anyway
[01:09] <Bobl> for now
[01:09] <Seveas> mwe, dapper has a fuse module using libntfs, which does more than the standard kernel experimental support
[01:10] <bob_4_a_day> Bobl all i need is dd  :)
[01:10] <mwe> I see
[01:11] <beruic> Can anyone help me in #wine?????
[01:11] <globe> I have questions about configuring X for laptop, can someone help me?
[01:11] <Seveas> beruic, this is not #wine so probably no
[01:11] <Seveas> !tell globe about someone
[01:11] <Nikusan> beruic, try #winehq
[01:12] <bob_4_a_day> it works like this dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<disk_with_ntfs_on_it> count=1024   and then make a linux partition and go  :)
[01:13] <beruic> Nikusan: thx
[01:14] <globe> I just installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop. I cant start X because the config is wrong. In the forum somebody said to set VGA=771 , but I cant find where.
[01:15] <globe> I looked in the x config file and didnt see anything
[01:15] <Saboo> I've now unplugged everything out of the back of my PC except the mouse and keyboard, and it is now hanging on the line where it says PS/2 mouse...
[01:15] <bob_4_a_day> i really don't think i'll be leaving 'nome installed long enough to get sick of it.....    errr wrong too late.
[01:15] <hyakuhei> globe: whoever said that was just wrong
[01:16] <hyakuhei> globe: the VGA=771 reference would have been passed by grub at boot time to give a graphical boot, nothing to do with X
[01:16] <mwe> globe: vga= is usuallay a boot parameter
[01:16] <mwe> globe: and not related to X
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> vga=771 is not an sorg.conf arg it is a kernel arg line....
[01:16] <globe> okay. That is good to know.
[01:16] <hyakuhei> globe: what errors does X throw?
[01:16] <tristan> globe : what is your graphic card?
[01:17] <thegladiator> hwos the draper release doing ?
[01:17] <globe> hyakuhei: x says that it cant load the config file
[01:18] <bob_4_a_day> i use vga=788 here  hehhe
[01:18] <Pegasos989> How can I adjust the pthreads configuration to have higher max stack size
[01:18] <jose171181> hello, ubuntu users, could you please run two scripts for me?
[01:18] <globe> tristan: the graphics card is an intel 82852
[01:18] <mwe> thegladiator: I guess it's ok to install if you know how to fix your own problems
[01:19] <bob_4_a_day> globe maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[01:19] <jose171181> the only "requirement" is ffmpeg installed
[01:19] <hyakuhei> globe: this is bad practice in general, but try to run X as root
[01:19] <thegladiator> mwe, which one mwe ?
[01:19] <hyakuhei> globe: that will get round any permissions problems
[01:19] <thegladiator> mwe, hdd ?
[01:20] <mwe> thegladiator: I was commenting on dapper :)
[01:20] <xukun> when I was installing ubuntu I choose to dutch language. How can I change to english?
[01:20] <thegladiator> ah :)
[01:20] <jose171181> anyone ubuntu community?
[01:20] <mwe> xukun: /etc/environment, change LANG and LANGUAGE
[01:20] <Pygi> no, why running X as root :/
[01:20] <LoRe> xukun: $EDITOR /etc/environment
[01:20] <globe> hyakuhei: good idea. should I enable root account or use sudo?
[01:20] <bob_4_a_day> xukun sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale
[01:20] <Pygi> do not suggest root :/
[01:20] <Pygi> do not enable root :/
[01:21] <hyakuhei> just sudo should be fine
[01:21] <hyakuhei> Pygi: read before you post
[01:21] <xukun> thanks bob_4_a_day LoRe mwe
[01:21] <Pygi> hyakuhei: huh
[01:21] <hyakuhei> globe: we are only seeing if X runs as root, not going to use it in general
[01:21] <jose171181> oKtosiTe, last try: do you have ffmpeg installed and able to run two commands for me?
[01:22] <jose171181> dunno why it was not intended as private message
[01:22] <thais> han?
[01:22] <mwe> xukun: I guess it would be LANGUAGE="en_NL:en" LANG="en_NL"
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> pygi if you want to set the root password it's easy, just do 'sudo passwd '
[01:22] <globe> hyakuhei: right. unfortunately I have to reboot. I am in windows so I can use the internet.
[01:22] <xukun> mwe, true
[01:22] <Pygi> bob: yes, I know, but don't suggest puting root pass :P
[01:22] <hyakuhei> globe: wait
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> don't sujest ?
[01:23] <Pygi> bob: that's bad and the mighty penguin will smash you :P
[01:23] <hyakuhei> globe: do you not have any internet access in ubuntu?
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> Pygi you own linux do you ?
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm news to me.
[01:23] <globe> not unless I can get my wifi card online from the shell
[01:23] <Pygi> bob: own? heh :P
[01:23] <giggsey> When I try to load amarok I get SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0 (via terminal)
[01:23] <hyakuhei> globe, that isnt hard mate :)
[01:23] <jose171181> thanks for ignoring me, have a beautiful day
[01:24] <Draken> how do u enable root ?
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: what version?
[01:24] <Pygi> Draken: you don't need root...use sudo if you must
[01:24] <apokryphos> Draken: by setting a root pass
[01:24] <giggsey> of amarok? or ubuntu
[01:24] <hyakuhei> globe: is it a native card or does it use ncurses?
[01:24] <bob_4_a_day> oh you mean that this is your channel and you'll ban me for that Pygi ?
[01:24] <Draken> i want root
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: amaroK
[01:24] <mwe> setting a root password is ok. just opens a potential security hole. not too bad if you use a good password
[01:24] <Draken> u cant sudo when in a gui
[01:24] <thegladiator> giggsery , you may also want to try #amarok . it could have been acused if you modified fonts , themes or something . just a guess
[01:24] <giggsey> apokryphos, 1.3
[01:24] <apokryphos> Draken: huh?
[01:24] <Pygi> bob: lol, no ofcourse :) just suggesting not to advise people to use root :P especially the ones who don't know what they are doin' :P
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: update to the latest -- there's a kubuntu repo with it
[01:25] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[01:25] <ubotu> amarok 1.3.7 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[01:25] <Draken> im using kubuntu, and anything i want to change, always says u need to be a admin
[01:25] <globe> hyakuhei: ummm, I dont know what that means. It is an external card that is listed in the ubuntu wifi supported list.
[01:25] <hyakuhei> Draken: thats just broken then
[01:25] <Draken> and yes i have tried my normal user password, doesnt work
[01:25] <Pygi> Draken: you can "gksudo" or "kdesu"
[01:25] <otep> gksudo?
[01:25] <apokryphos> Draken: yes..... so you put in your *user* pass
[01:25] <otep> i mean, use gksudo then
[01:25] <apokryphos> Draken: you *never* should need a root pass on Kubuntu
[01:25] <mwe> Draken: sounds broken. is the user in the admin group?
[01:26] <Pygi> apokryphos: agreed :)
[01:26] <Draken> mwe, i cant check, because only a admin can
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: what version of Kubuntu are you running
[01:26] <hyakuhei> globe: we can save the networking tutorial for another day ;) go see if you can get X working :)
[01:26] <Draken> latest
[01:26] <Draken> downloaded yesturday
[01:26] <Draken> kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: you  need to grab the updates from breezy-updates
[01:26] <mwe> Draken: no type groups as your own user in a terminal and it will show you what groups you're in
[01:26] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. Thanks!
[01:26] <hyakuhei> Draken: cat /etc/group
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: enable breezy-updates repository, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed, and then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:26] <hyakuhei> globe: np
[01:26] <mwe> Draken: the user created in the installer should be in the admin group if you didn't change it
[01:27] <Draken> ok apokryphos
[01:27] <Draken> will that fix it up ?
[01:27] <Seveas> Draken, did you perhaps do a server install?
[01:27] <globe> hyakuhei: do you happen to have a website or wiki that has that kind of nfo in it?
[01:27] <Draken> nope Seveas
[01:27] <apokryphos> Draken: it should. Is this the first user on the box?
[01:27] <Seveas> Draken, odd, are you in the admin group (the id command should tell)
[01:27] <hyakuhei> globe: I know the ubuntu pages have some good info
[01:27] <bob_4_a_day> chances are if he'd done a server install he'd have a root password
[01:27] <Draken> well i cant check atm Seveas
[01:27] <Draken> im in windows
[01:28] <Draken> just finishing a downloa
[01:28] <thegladiator> is ubuntu being used commercially ? in compamies ?
[01:28] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. I will look into that in abit. Thanks again
[01:28] <Draken> but i gave root a password anyways, but when i try login, it says root is disabled ?
[01:28] <Seveas> Draken, then check later, the user created when installing should be in the admin group
[01:28] <thegladiator> for official use with comemrcial support
[01:28] <Seveas> root cannot login in the gui, that's disabled in gdm/kdm config
[01:28] <MarcN> Draken: root is also disabled for login.
[01:28] <Draken> ok
[01:29] <bob_4_a_day> Draken when you try to login in X root is 'by default' disabled in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  "assuming gnome"
[01:30] <giggsey> in some cases, root is needed
[01:30] <Draken> MarcN, some of us are not linux pros
[01:30] <Draken> its easyer to use the gui
[01:30] <MarcN> giggsey: very rarely, and in that case sudo -s gets you there.
[01:30] <Draken> and u cant just sudo in the gui :P
[01:30] <Seveas> giggsey, no it isn't :)
[01:30] <Seveas> MarcN, sudo -i
[01:31] <giggsey> yeah, but you need root to install sudo :P
[01:31] <Yeahnude> It says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin
[01:31] <riccardo> ciao
[01:31] <Seveas> giggsey, hehe, that's why the installer is doing that :)
[01:31] <giggsey> (if you install it on a different distro)
[01:31] <MarcN> giggsey: sudo is installed by default. and the first account is added to sudousers
[01:31] <shad0w1e> how do I copy the mbr of one drive onto another? to check.. is it : dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=446 count=1   ???
[01:31] <Seveas> bs=512
[01:31] <shad0w1e> 512 will include the partition table as well, no?
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, you shouldn't
[01:32] <thegladiator> Yeahnude, perhaps in the boot menu , if you have one , there are 2 other modes , one for test and other for mem test . try the test mode
[01:32] <mcjerry> NEWBS: login as normal user then su root in terminal console then apt-get install sudo
[01:32] <Yeahnude> It says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin - Anyone know? ( I only have the root account )
[01:32] <MarcN> Yeahnude: you don't need to login as root.  It is called 'best practice' not to.   Use sudo or gksudo when  you really need to do something as root.
[01:32] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: to what end are you doing that, as the dd approach is dangerous
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, login in terminal, create normal user, use that user to login
[01:32] <Yeahnude> MarcN i only have root account
[01:32] <Yeahnude> Seveas hey, how i login at terminal?
[01:32] <Yeahnude> :P
[01:32] <Seveas> Do NOT use root unless absolutely needed
[01:32] <yatesy> goto a console then
[01:32] <MarcN> Yeahnude: and how did you get only a root account and not a user account?
[01:32] <yatesy> control alt f1
[01:32] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe when i install ubuntu first command i type after it boots is 'apt-get remove sudo '   :)
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, <ctrl><alt><f1>
[01:33] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: why?
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> cause i don't like sudo
[01:33] <yatesy> why?
[01:33] <yatesy> its a huge timesaver
[01:33] <Yeahnude> Seveas yes so im in terminal. I want to creat a account so i can use the "admin" things in ubuntu
[01:33] <apokryphos> bob_4_a_day: it's the superior model
[01:33] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, just copying the mbr onto a new harddrive
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> yatesy bull roar
[01:33] <mcjerry> neither do i, su suits my needs in one open terminal
[01:33] <Seveas> Yeahnude, adduser some_name && adduser some_name admin
[01:33] <thegladiator> bob_4_a_day, perhaps you do want to give others an easy acess ?
[01:34] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: what?
[01:34] <bob_4_a_day> you are obviously not a console user
[01:34] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, -ETOPIC
[01:34] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: why?
[01:34] <Seveas> this is not a discussion for in here, please stop
[01:34] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, becase I dont have a Windows 2000 Professional CD handy
[01:34] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: ... i've been using consoles for years frankly
[01:34] <Seveas> yatesy, -ETOPIC
[01:34] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas he asked
[01:34] <hyakuhei> I see
[01:34] <yatesy> Seveas: roger
[01:35] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas what should i do ignore and not answer ?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: Well, dd seems like the right route, just be aware that there are a lot of external factors involved so its not guarenteed to work
[01:35] <yatesy> Seveas: whats the -E supposed to symbolise?!
[01:35] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, is count=1 ?
[01:35] <afief> Why does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S
[01:35] <shad0w1e> thats what im checking
[01:35] <Yeahnude> Seveas In the last it says, after password i must fill in the account rate. What is the best?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: if the mbr on that disk is 512bytes then yes
[01:35] <Yeahnude> highest rate
[01:35] <Seveas> yatesy, it's a stupis geeky way of saying offtopic. Constants starting with E are errors :)
[01:35] <globe> How do I tell xwin where my screen is? Xwin wont start: the fatal error is that it cant find any screens.
[01:35] <Seveas> highest rate?
[01:35] <yatesy> Seveas: ah heh
[01:36] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, would it be anything else?
[01:36] <Athame> hello all
[01:36] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: I think it can be, not normally though
[01:36] <hyakuhei> hey globe, no luck?
[01:36] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, the target hard disk is > 132 GB. the source is not. will that make a difference?
[01:36] <hyakuhei> globe: X didnt start but the window manager did, couldnt find X and then died
[01:36] <steele> hi, can someone aide me? I want to start VICE with x64, but it seems there is the kernal missing: but cbm4linux cannot be installed, whyever, does someone know about this problem?
[01:36] <Yeahnude> Seveas i wrote add user, name: fredrik password: ******* and after that it says "vrde swedish, translate= rate" value.. something like that. It says that normal user have 1000, i want the best so i can change admin things in ubuntu
[01:36] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: I couldnt tell you, maybee google for the datasheet for that particular hdd
[01:37] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, OK THANKS!
[01:37] <Seveas> Yeahnude, 1000
[01:37] <globe> hyakuhei: the window manager sort of started. I am starting to think that it is using the wrong character set because instead of displaying borders around the error box it had abunch of hex chars
[01:38] <afief> Why does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S
[01:38] <hyakuhei> globe: that could have actually been a "ncurses" interface
[01:38] <Seveas> afief, shared or exclusive?
[01:38] <hyakuhei> afief: building a cached tree of future renderings perhaps?
[01:39] <Athame> I'm a complete linux noob, I just installed unbutu as a dual boot with xp pro. When I boot into ubuntu, I get to the 'flash' screen for ubuntu hear the music and the system freezes, does the same thing with the live CD. Any ideas what's happening and how to fix it?
[01:39] <hyakuhei> though that sounds stupid, I retract that and bow my head in shame
[01:39] <shad0w1e> Athame, hahaha n00b!
[01:39] <afief> Sevas: I don't know what that means^^
[01:39] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: shut up
[01:39] <shad0w1e> btw, you're a newbie, not a n00b.
[01:40] <Athame> gotcha :P
[01:40] <Seveas> shad0w1e: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:40] <mcjerry> Athame: what cpu and what iso did you dload and install and what video card do you have?
[01:40] <afief> hyakuhei: would be a shame, since it could render it without hardware acceleration just in time
[01:40] <hyakuhei> afief: aye
[01:41] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. I'll believe that. Is X having trouble finding the hardware interface to my screen or is it having an internal problem?
[01:41] <Athame> pent 4 , breezy, nvidia g force
[01:41] <afief> hyakuhei: any idea how i can turn it off? i'm using 180 MB ram, of which 110 are 3ddesktop
[01:41] <Yeahnude> What is the command for user setup in terminal ? last quest:P
[01:41] <Seveas> Yeahnude, adduser is complete?
[01:41] <mcjerry> Athame: does it hang on the usplash or just go to a black screen and you here music?
[01:41] <apokryphos> Yeahnude: user setup? You mean add new user?
[01:41] <hyakuhei> afief: sorry, I have no experience with 3D-Desktop as such, more than likely its grabbing a pre-defined amount of ram though
[01:42] <hyakuhei> afief: so find the config file / modify the source
[01:42] <bob_4_a_day> Athame network issue maybe.
[01:42] <Athame> mcjerry - it hangs on upsplash
[01:42] <hyakuhei> globe: its really hard to tell from here, sorry
[01:42] <afief> hyakuhei: would love to start playing with sources, but my C/C++ knowledge is limited
[01:42] <hyakuhei> Athame: a lot of the time that error is to do with ESD blocking io, trying to access sound hardware.
[01:42] <globe> hyakuhei: n/p. Thanks for your help ;-)
[01:43] <hyakuhei> globe: np, if you can get more info on the problem I will be happy to take another look
[01:43] <Athame> can it be fixed from bios or xp? I can't get into ubuntu at all?
[01:43] <McJerry> Athamo: can you boot to recovery mode and get  to a console
[01:44] <Athame> no
[01:44] <giggsey> Right, I've upgraded to amaroK 1.3.7 and its still giving SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0
[01:44] <Yeahnude> Seveas I have now logged in as the new account "fredrik" but i want to use the "adminstration - > Add Comp" So i can fix somethings in the network
[01:44] <globe> hyakuhei: thx. I am going to venture into getting my netgear wifi up ....
[01:44] <hyakuhei> globe: do you use WEP or WPA?
[01:44] <Seveas> Yeahnude, as root: adduser fredrik admin
[01:44] <Seveas> then frdrik can use his own password when doing this
[01:45] <globe> hyakuhei: nope. I turned that off to simplify things. I am MAC filtering for now.
[01:45] <hyakuhei> coolio
[01:45] <McJerry> Athame: which iso did you dload and install ?
[01:45] <hyakuhei> globe: should be easy to set up
[01:46] <Athame> MCJerry - breezy the newest version, d/l it last night
[01:46] <hyakuhei> you need to find the interface its been given, like "eth0"
[01:46] <hyakuhei> globe: what make was the card again
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> Athame but which ?
[01:46] <McJerry> Athamo for x86 or 64 bit?
[01:47] <redhook> or mac?
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> or ppc ?
[01:47] <Athame> 5.10 64 bit I think
[01:47] <globe> hyakuhei: its a netgear. the chart on the wifi card support list says it has the prism chipset.
[01:47] <hyakuhei> cool,
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> Athame and you do have a k7 ?
[01:47] <Athame> sorry, k7?
[01:48] <McJerry> Atamo: I'd recommend dloading and installing x86 iso for your first install to see if this resolves issue
[01:48] <bob_4_a_day> 64 bit processor
[01:48] <afief> Where can i find a good guide for programming under linux?(i already have a good windows experience)
[01:48] <hyakuhei> well in linux if you type "dmesg | less" it will give you a load of information generated by the kernel, you can use pageUp or pageDown to go through the info, and q to quit, look for a reference to the wireless card, something like "wlan0" or "eth0"
[01:49] <Athame> bob-for-a-day yes, MCJerry I can try that, tonight
[01:49] <hyakuhei> globe: on second thoughts, just type iwconfig, if you see an interface with lots of info, then it has seen your wifi card
[01:49] <gnomefreak> afief, what language you do you just want an ide or what?
[01:49] <hyakuhei> globe: then just try: "iwconfig <interface> ap any"
[01:50] <zamuro> afief: Depends on what language u wanna learn about
[01:50] <gnomefreak> you/or
[01:50] <Yeahnude> Seveas Failed to run network-admin Child terminated 1 status
[01:50] <afief> well, I am familiar with C, some C++, delphi, C# and another language that must not be named
[01:50] <globe> hyakuhei: I was just reading about that. I am thinking that it will not because when I installed I had an avaya card in the slot that went bad on me.
[01:50] <Seveas> Yeahnude, in the terminal: sudo echo foo
[01:50] <Seveas> (as user frederik)
[01:50] <afief> but i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide
[01:50] <McJerry> Athamo: otherwise since you cannot boot beyond usplash with cd, or recovery mode and get to console, no way i can help....maybe others can, but x86 install in 32bit would probably get you going then you can upgrade to k7 kernel later
[01:50] <hyakuhei> globe: if that card isnt there now then it shouldnt matter
[01:50] <cafuego> Hmm, tequila flavours on a 40C+ day are just good[tm] 
[01:51] <zamuro> afief: It's pretty much the same under Linux. I mean, if you are a console freak, you won't notice the difference
[01:51] <Athame> MCJerry - OK I'll try that, thank you for the help
[01:51] <afief> zamuro: i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide
[01:51] <gnomefreak> afief, under linux is not much different than under windows just different editors
[01:51] <cafuego> Athame: Also, on 32bit a lot of stuff "just works" that doesn't on 64bit.
[01:51] <afief> well, the problem is i know neither the editors, nor was i ever good with C++
[01:51] <McJerry> agreed
[01:51] <globe> hyakuhei: does ubuntu do a pcmcia scan on every boot and compile the drivers?
[01:51] <cafuego> globe: no
[01:51] <zamuro> I'd recommend you to start using xemacs
[01:52] <globe> I thought not
[01:52] <Yeahnude> Seveas i added instead account admin "adduser admin admin" sudo echo foo admin" ? im logged in with root in terminal. What should i write? When i have fixed this i can do the rest i thought : )
[01:52] <gnomefreak> emacs for beginners :(
[01:53] <zamuro> gnomefreak: I started using Kwrite lol
[01:53] <gnomefreak> i was thinking more of kdevelop or anjuta for beginners
[01:53] <Seveas> Yeahnude, why didn't you follow a few simple directions?
[01:53] <Yeahnude> Seveas sorry, i miiss understood it :p
[01:53] <hyakuhei> globe: cardctl is run at boot, that should load into the kernel any modules pertaining to that card
[01:54] <cafuego> kyncani: Well, on Breezy anyway.
[01:54] <antix> is mysql going to be updated in breezy? I would like 4.1.x or higher
[01:54] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. whats the irc client command?
[01:54] <shreevatsa> Why do all GTK apps look crappy in KDE?
[01:54] <Seveas> !info mysql-server breezy
[01:54] <cafuego> antix: mysql-server-4.1 is already there
[01:54] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[01:54] <Seveas> !info mysql-server-4.1 breezy
[01:54] <ubotu> mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 16929 kB, Installed size: 37968 kB
[01:54] <Seveas> there :)
[01:54] <hyakuhei> globe: well, you would need one, I suggest irssi, sooo you would need to:
[01:54] <afief> zamuro: are the include libraries the same as under windows??
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: run "irssi" from the command line
[01:55] <bob_4_a_day> shreevatsa fonts ?
[01:55] <Yeahnude> Seveas how i do form step1. I promise to do right htis time. i promise to not ask more after i have fix this, i know its booring to answear me
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: in irssi type "/server irc.freenode.net"
[01:55] <antix> cafuego, aha there is a mysql-client-4.1 thanks =)
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: when it has connected to freenode type "/j #ubuntu"
[01:55] <Seveas> Yeahnude, first put /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/sudoers on the pastebin
[01:56] <cafuego> antix: Yes, but without mysql-server-4.1 that's a tad pointless.
[01:56] <hyakuhei> globe: then you should be here
[01:56] <antix> cafuego, ok thanks
[01:56] <Yeahnude> Seveas When im logged in as root in terminal?
[01:56] <globe> hyakuhei: I thought there was a basic irc client that shipped with the kernel.... oh well. I'll see what I can do. (after I get a piece of paper ....)
[01:56] <zamuro> afief: Not really... In fact, Linux is embed with its own c, c++ compiler
[01:57] <gnomefreak> globe, xchat
[01:57] <cafuego> afief: The standard libs are. The ones pertaining specifically to the UI are not.
[01:57] <bob_4_a_day> and after you have put all your secret system files on the paste bin run telnet server and sshd   lol
[01:57] <hyakuhei> globe: not that im aware of, though xchat ships with ubuntu
[01:57] <hyakuhei> that needs X
[01:57] <afief> where can i read more about that part?:s
[01:57] <cafuego> afief: So stuff like <iostream> or <stdio.h> do exist on Linux.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> zamuro, hes gonna have to install gcc/g++
[01:57] <globe> maybe thats what I was thinking of
[01:58] <afief> gnomefreak: i have
[01:58] <cafuego> globe: in-kernel irc... hmm... interesting idea
[01:58] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:58] <zamuro> gnomefreak: Forgot that! I had some issues related to gcc when i first installed ubuntu lol
[01:58] <afief> gnomefreak: though when i try ./configure it still can't guess my arch automaticly
[01:58] <cafuego> afief: You'll want 'build-essential'
[01:58] <iTune> Hello
[01:59] <zamuro> iTune: Hi
[01:59] <gnomefreak> zamuro,  me too took me forever to figure out i needed gcc not just gcc4.0 :(
[01:59] <iTune> I need help with BitchX
[01:59] <iTune> ?
[01:59] <zamuro> lol
[01:59] <bob_4_a_day> iTune ?
[01:59] <afief> shouldn't there be a category for this stuff or a meta header?
[01:59] <iTune> how can i run bitchx
[01:59] <iTune> ?
[01:59] <Seveas> !compiling
[01:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:59] <cafuego> There is no known cure except a bitchxerectomy.
[01:59] <zamuro> iTune: bitchx on a console
[01:59] <gnomefreak> iTune, in terminal type bitchx
[01:59] <Seveas> cafuego, hehe
[02:00] <cafuego> "alias bitchx='irssi-text': ; bitchx
[02:00] <iTune> zeah
[02:00] <iTune> and i can use it
[02:00] <iTune> in terminal mode
[02:00] <gnomefreak> or if you have bitchx-gtk type xbitchx
[02:00] <iTune> ?
[02:00] <globe> cafuego: :-)
[02:00] <Seveas> in terminal, type: apt-get remove --purge bitch && apt-get install irssi-text && irssi
[02:00] <zamuro> iTune: Actually, bitchx _is_ a terminal based client
[02:00] <bob_4_a_day> in a terminal/console type bitchx -n 'nickname' -c '#channel'  irc.server.ext iTune
[02:00] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:00] <cafuego> iTune: Althought it has an X in its name, BitchX is console-only.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> bitchx is a terminal only app
[02:00] <McJerry> would recomment installing both gcc-3.4 along with gcc-4.0 and create two scripts called switch-compiler-3.4 and switch-compler-4.0 and placing them in /usr/local/bin as some progs require one or the other
[02:00] <iTune> ok
[02:00] <iTune> can you tell me some good client
[02:00] <iTune> ?
[02:01] <zamuro> No1Viking: Try using your own username and password.
[02:01] <cafuego> McJerry: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas whats better about irrsi?
[02:01] <bob_4_a_day> xchat iTune
[02:01] <zamuro> iTune: irssi... No doubt bout that
[02:01] <Yeahnude> Seveas pastebin what is that?
[02:01] <Seveas> gnomefreak, everything :)
[02:01] <Yeahnude> !info pastebin
[02:01] <Seveas> !tell Yeahnude about pastebin
[02:01] <cafuego> iTune: for X windows, try x-chat (or even gaim)
[02:01] <No1Viking> zamuro, did but no luck
[02:01] <zygis> hi, where do I have specify required kernel module options to be loaded on boot?
[02:01] <iTune> aha
[02:01] <iTune> thx a lot friends
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i might have to try it
[02:02] <McJerry> cafuego: yes, can do that, i have a tendency to forget so i created the scripts and mainly leave 3.4 as default
[02:02] <zygis> I see that /etc/modules.conf doesn't exist
[02:02] <zamuro> Hmmm... Never had that issue before... Is that other computer a windows machine?
[02:02] <cafuego> zygis: in any file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[02:02] <No1Viking> zamuro, nope, it's a ubuntu box
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro depends on what you do with irc if you like bx or irssi better.
[02:02] <BjornW> can somebody tell how I can add folders to the sidebar in Nautilus....ie the place where the Desktop and Home folder reside
[02:03] <cafuego> gnomefreak: dapper like a 'vga=791' boot parm to help it along ;-)
[02:03] <cafuego> BjornW: start gedit, choose File -> Open, navigate to the folder you want to add, click the 'Add' button.
[02:03] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: For someone who just chats and wants to use a console client, I'd rather have recommend irssi.
[02:04] <zygis> cafuego, ah.. will try :)
[02:04] <BjornW> cafuego: thanks...btw thats some screwed interaction design
[02:04] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW what folders you have in mind ?
[02:04] <zamuro> Guys... Have you tried use the debian repositories on /etc/apt/sources.list and tried apt-get dist-update?
[02:05] <BjornW> bob_4_a_day: I'm having a mac for work and I kinda like to have a music and movies folder  in the sidebar
[02:05] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro sure but for a chan op bx has some advantages
[02:05] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:05] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: LOL... Like /fuckem
[02:05] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro if you want to break every thing that dist upgrade will do it.
[02:05] <zamuro> There's an script on irssi which does that exactly
[02:06] <Yeahnude> Seveas Cant we take it from the begginging. I read it the ubotu told me. We say i creat a new account like: admin pw: **** - and then adduser admin admin. What should i do after? When i take /etc/passwd in root terminal i get no legitimacy "
[02:06] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: That's what I'm affraid of.
[02:07] <Draken> guys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository
[02:07] <Kindred> hm, anyone know of a gnome based ftp client that's better than gftp?.. mmm gnome.
[02:07] <Seveas> Yeahnude, yes we can start from the beginning, but I need to see the state of these 3 files to determine what to do next
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW if the music and movies directories are in your $HOME thet should appear there auto.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i know i really shouldnt ask this but are vim commands any easier to learn than emacs?
[02:08] <giggsey> Whats the best music player?
[02:08] <Draken> guys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository
[02:08] <Seveas> gnomefreak, they're both not too easy to grasp, but I find the vim commands more intuitive
[02:08] <Seveas> !tell Draken about repos
[02:08] <zamuro> giggsey: Depends on what you want to do and prior experience.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Draken,  in your sources.list take the # away from the begining of the line you want enabled
[02:09] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW you can make symlinks in $HOME to other locations and have them appear in the side bar too
[02:09] <Draken> ok ta gnomefreak
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Seveas, ty i will look for a guide on vim :)
[02:09] <Seveas> gnomefreak, vimtutor :)
[02:09] <Seveas> (it's a command)
[02:10] <Yeahnude> Seveas hos i show you those states?
[02:10] <Draken> where can i find source.list ?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ty lol almost too easy
[02:10] <zygis> ghm.. cafuego, I've added my 'options snd-hda-intel model=z71v' to the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, but it doesn't work
[02:10] <zamuro> giggsey: There's amrok, xmms... I'd rather use xmms cuz looks like Winamp a lot and I really didn't felt the difference once I started using Linux
[02:10] <cafuego> Draken: /etc/apt
[02:10] <Draken> ta
[02:10] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[02:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:10] <Seveas> Yeahnude, by putting those files on the pastebin...
[02:10] <cafuego> zygis: After a reboot it will.
[02:10] <giggsey> thanks zamuro
[02:10] <zamuro> giggsey: No problem
[02:11] <zygis> cafuego, no, it doesn't :)
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> cafuego i figured one of had to hit it :)
[02:11] <tuskernini> hi there all
[02:11] <zamuro> tuskernini: Hi
[02:11] <rigmor> I assume that most of you are experienced users of ubuntu. I'm having minor problems with a install script for a radeon driver. If any of you can help, I'll be more than grateful.
[02:11] <tuskernini> does anyone have experience with a via vt8235 onboard soundcard?
[02:11] <zamuro> rigmor: What spescific problem u have?
[02:12] <zamuro> Specific**
[02:12] <rigmor> I don't know how to install the driver.
[02:12] <Yeahnude> Seveas so i send it to you? the pastebin
[02:12] <Seveas> Yeahnude, what do you mean?
[02:12] <rigmor> I downloaded a driver package, with a install script. I don't know how to run the script.
[02:13] <Seveas> rigmor, from ati.com?
[02:13] <zamuro> rigmor: Hmmm...
[02:13] <Yeahnude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ at that:S ? Im not sitting with the linux computer right now so u know :p i have it here next to my windows ocmputer
[02:13] <Loader> Hello everyoone ..
[02:13] <Seveas> Yeahnude, yes, paste the contents of these files at that site
[02:13] <tuskernini> Loader: hi
[02:13] <Loader> I`m new to ubuntu :)
[02:13] <McJerry> rigmor: ./name-of-scrip.ext
[02:14] <Yeahnude> and then your name ?
[02:14] <Seveas> yours :)
[02:14] <rigmor> install.sh
[02:14] <zamuro> then you should do sh install.sh
[02:14] <rigmor> in the terminal, that is?
[02:15] <McJerry> rigmor: ./name-of-script.ext = ./install.sh or as zamuo said sh install.sh
[02:15] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW maybe i told you wrong about that in gnome symlinks don't seem to show up in the side bar like they do in kde.... sorry.
[02:15] <Loader> I was wondering how to save my settings to a usb stick since im using the livecd version of ubuntu :P
[02:16] <Yeahnude> Seveas i have paste it now
[02:16] <Yeahnude> with a picture
[02:16] <rigmor> Can't locate the pkginfo file.
[02:16] <Seveas> Yeahnude, that's unreadable...
[02:17] <vrln> a friend of mine is writing a certain script (e17 installation), but there is one problem: how could the script check if the distro in question is ubuntu breezy?
[02:17] <Seveas> does the Ubuntu machine have an internet connection?
[02:17] <rigmor> Yes.
[02:17] <vrln> I haven't seem to find a /etc/ubuntu-version
[02:17] <vrln> is there something similar somewhere?
[02:17] <Seveas> vrln, /etc/lsb-release
[02:17] <Seveas> source /etc/lsb-release
[02:17] <Loader> Anyone ?
[02:17] <Yeahnude> Seveas not right now, i will setup "sharing internet" with this computer to ( the ubuntu machine av 2 networkcards u know)
[02:17] <vrln> awesome, thank you
[02:17] <Yeahnude> thats why i need to setup the network
[02:17] <Seveas> if [[ x"$DISTRIB_RELEASE" > x"5.04" ] ] ; then echo "Breezy or higher"; fi
[02:18] <zamuro> Loader: Hmm... isn't there a ./configure?
[02:18] <bob_4_a_day> well that's another thing i've found that i don't like about nautilus that i do like about konqueror  the side bar in 'nome's nautilus is crap....
[02:18] <Syche> I am getting a Fatal: Module Reiserfs not found when I boot up. Custom kernel. / is Reiserfs
[02:18] <Seveas> Yeahnude, ok, then it'll be a bit harder, meet me in a private chat
[02:18] <hyakuhei> Syche: you need to compile reiser into the kernel
[02:18] <hyakuhei> rather than as a module
[02:19] <Syche> Its compiled in
[02:19] <Syche> and it boots ok too
[02:19] <hyakuhei> no its not, if its complaining like that
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> Syche you have root on reiser and didn't compile in reiserfs support  lol
[02:19] <vrln> also, I'm on Breezy, and found something odd on my system: in /etc/, there is both a passwd and passwd- (same for shadow)
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> oh ok you did compile it in....
[02:19] <vrln> is this normal? (and passwd is readable to my user account, while passwd- is not)
[02:19] <Loader> zamuro, I have no idea, i had used other livecds from other distros and they had a script called configsave that would save all ur settings, files and changes you made the desktop and what not
[02:19] <coz> morning all
[02:19] <Syche> yes. and everything as such works fine
[02:19] <hyakuhei> vrln: backup from some admin program no doubt
[02:20] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:20] <Kindred> rigmor, which driver exactly are you trying to install?
[02:20] <vrln> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1240 2005-12-17 01:18 passwd
[02:20] <vrln> vrln@core:/etc$ ls -l passwd-
[02:20] <vrln> -rw-------  1 root root 1240 2005-09-17 01:48 passwd-
[02:20] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: what do you mean by shared?
[02:20] <Syche> the splash screen too. But when i skip the splash by ALT F1, there are a few errors
[02:20] <zamuro> Sorry.. got confused... In you case, there's an script or even a x menu option to save your config.
[02:20] <hyakuhei> vrln: looks safe
[02:21] <rigmor> The install.sh-file is placed in a folder, in the same folder, there's three other folders. Radeon, Extras and Drm. There's no readme here, so I don't know what to do.
[02:21] <Loader> where is it ?
[02:21] <No1Viking> hyakuhei, In Gnome, System ---Administration you have Shared folders
[02:21] <zamuro> rigmor: Try looking for a configure file
[02:21] <Loader> i cant seem to find it.
[02:21] <bob_4_a_day> vrin world readable passwd    tisk tisk...
[02:21] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: samba or nfs?
[02:21] <No1Viking> samba
[02:21] <danny> hey anyone know how i check that mysql server is installed and mysql-client is installed and working
[02:21] <zamuro> Loader: Never used ubuntu livecd. But i seem to remember that knoppix had one of that kind.
[02:22] <No1Viking> hyakuhei, samba
[02:22] <zamuro> danny: Try mysql -uroot
[02:22] <Loader> :/
[02:22] <rigmor> It's a ATI mobility radeon 7500c driver.
[02:23] <Syche> can anyone explain how usplash works?
[02:23] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: no idea why it is doing that, try mounting the remote share using the command line
[02:23] <coz> Syche hold on I will find the url for you
[02:23] <Syche> or the requiremets in a kernel
[02:24] <danny> Zamuro, it says error 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[02:24] <Syche> ok cgz
[02:24] <No1Viking> OK
[02:24] <Loader> Anyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?
[02:24] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: ie: #mount -t smbfs -o -username=<user>,-password=<foo> 192.168.1.5:/<share>
[02:24] <zamuro> Oh... you have to create the socket file
[02:24] <danny> zamuro, and how do i do that
[02:24] <[nige] > hey alll
[02:24] <No1Viking> Thanks hyakuhei
[02:24] <coz> Syche what do you need to know about it?
[02:25] <zamuro> go to you mysql install dir and in bin folder execute mysql_create_system_tables
[02:26] <Syche> coz: I compiled my own kernel. It cant seem to access vesa fb drivers . It gives the Fatal module reiserfs not found. Thugh usplash works
[02:26] <[nige] > g'day all
[02:26] <zamuro> [nige] : G'day, mate
[02:26] <Syche> but since / is Reiserfs, I cant compile it as a module
[02:26] <[nige] > anyone configued newest ATI drivers with Breezy yet?
[02:26] <Yeahnude> anyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?
[02:27] <rigmor> I installed ubuntu last night. I can't install the ati driver.  Do i need some sort of xfree86-program, or something?
[02:27] <zamuro> Yeahnude: hmmm... there's an account manager
[02:27] <Syche> [nige]  : 8.20.10?
[02:27] <[nige] > yer
[02:27] <coz> I see well there are many threads on the forums I can look but I think you wqwold have moreluck looking yourself
[02:28] <Yeahnude> zamuro but i cant go in at that in the "ubuntu" it says child 1 termintaed"
[02:28] <[nige] > i had it working with 8.16 without using the mesa 3d drivers
[02:28] <[nige] > but since i updated it...
[02:28] <[nige] > its back to mesa
[02:28] <Yeahnude> zamuro cant i do it in the terminal
[02:28] <Syche> [nige]  : I've done it
[02:28] <zamuro> Yeahnude: Yeah... lemme check
[02:28] <[nige] > Syche, how did youget it to work
[02:28] <coz> since your needs are more specific than most who do not ocmpile
[02:28] <Syche> [nige]  : hang on let me give you a link
[02:28] <[nige] > okay
[02:28] <[nige] > :>
[02:28] <[nige] > cheers
[02:28] <zamuro> Yeahnude: try as root users-admin
[02:29] <Loader> Anyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?
[02:29] <[nige] > Loader, i have used it a few times
[02:29] <bob_4_a_day> have yea
[02:29] <coz> Loader I have used it also
[02:29] <Yeahnude> zamuro i got GTK WaRNING cant open display
[02:30] <bob_4_a_day> is this just a pole ?
[02:30] <Loader> Nige : how do i go about saving my settings
[02:30] <danny> Zamuro, how do i goto tht
[02:30] <Syche> [nige]  : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide          works fine and is he proper Debian way
[02:30] <zamuro> Gee...
[02:30] <zamuro> danny: tht?
[02:30] <mhchai45> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:30] <[nige] > cheers Syche looking now
[02:30] <[nige] > Loader, as in after a reboot?
[02:30] <Loader> yes
[02:30] <Yeahnude> zamuro do u know more?
[02:30] <[nige] > i dont think you can without creating an entirely new live cd
[02:31] <Loader> oh man
[02:31] <danny> zamuro, ?? me confused im new to the whole linux , i no a little terminal but not much
[02:31] <m14> hello
[02:31] <[nige] > it loads everything into ram I understand and doesnt write back to the disk :)
[02:31] <agung> hai boleh knln g?
[02:31] <zamuro> danny: What do you mean with tht?
[02:31] <Loader> that kinda sucks
[02:31] <zamuro> That?
[02:31] <globe> making wifi "ready": iwconfig displays device not ready and it wont connect with iwconfig ... ap any
[02:31] <[nige] > Loader, whys that?
[02:31] <m14> I would just like to ask you something peculiar.... in english would you write "nicoz's trip" or "nicoz' trip" ?
[02:32] <zamuro> Oh, ok... Locate in a console: locate mysql_create_system_tables
[02:32] <m14> sorry if its not in the topic :)
[02:32] <redhook> m14: nicoz's
[02:32] <Loader> cuz its going to suck to have to configure my network, settings and files everytime i reboot.
[02:32] <bob_4_a_day> Loader try saving /home/ubuntu   to the usb
[02:32] <Kindred> [nige] , if you are running 64 bit the ati install is a little different to that page btw
[02:32] <m14> redhook, sure ? and if it was nicos ? nicos' trip ?
[02:32] <zamuro> Or, you simply use mysql_create_system_tables on a console
[02:32] <redhook> m14: yep
[02:33] <danny> zamuro, well earlier u sed i need to go to mysql install dir and then in bin folder ecute..........how do i do that
[02:33] <tuskernini> help... how do i test if my onboard soundcard is working? when i play a mp3 file, it plays, but nosound. looks like the modules are loaded
[02:33] <[nige] > Kindred, thats fine I am only on K7 :)
[02:33] <coz> Loader is there a reason you do not want to install ubuntu?
[02:33] <danny> zamuro, kkk
[02:33] <m14> ok redhook thx !!
[02:33] <[nige] > Loader, why dont you just install it?
[02:33] <vrln> bob_4_a_day: /etc/passwd is world readable on every breezy system
[02:33] <vrln> by default
[02:33] <Loader> coz, im testing before i actually detached from winblows!
[02:33] <vrln> passwd- is not though
[02:34] <coz> I see well I have xp, BeOs , mac os and ubuntu
[02:34] <redhook> Loader: get a USB pen drive and install it on there
[02:34] <coz> Inever go onto mac or BeOs anymore but I do go onto windows occasionally
[02:34] <redguy||work> does anybody know which network has a support channel for Mozilla Thunderbird
[02:34] <coz> so If you only have one machine either continue with the live cd which is essentially useless or dual boot
[02:35] <coz> Loader, what type of things do you do on your windows machine?
[02:35] <Badm4n> what the packaged that i need to install mrtg ?
[02:35] <danny> zamuro, wot is it i need to locate
[02:35] <Badm4n> what the packaged that i need to install mrtg ? FYI: im using ubuntu 5.10
[02:35] <dooglus> is it a known problem with dapper that 'locate' causes a segmentation violation?  or is it just me?
[02:35] <redguy|work> !info mrtg
[02:35] <ubotu> mrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB
[02:36] <redguy|work> Badm4n: viola
[02:36] <FHX> Hi
[02:36] <zamuro> danny: Nothing... If you use mysl_create_system_tables, nothing need to be located. Didn't remember theres a symlink on /usr/bin
[02:36] <FHX> was wondering if you guys could help, the kubuntu channel is dead.
[02:36] <Badm4n> what else except snmp cause it already installed
[02:36] <redhook> Badm4n: you need to enable the extra repository
[02:36] <tuskernini> any soundcard experts in the room?
[02:36] <Badm4n> where is it
[02:36] <danny> zamuro, sorry but i dont get wot u want me to do exactly
[02:36] <Yeahnude> anyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?
[02:36] <redguy|work> !tell Badm4n about repos
[02:37] <redhook> Yeahnude: sudo su
[02:37] <zamuro> danny: On a console, type mysql_create_system_tables
[02:37] <FHX> I'm trying to install a Kubuntu theme, and it tells me I need to move a folder here: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but when I enter that in konsole nothing comes up and it won't let me move the folder there. Help?
[02:37] <BullFire> hello
[02:37] <danny> zamuro, kk now i understand
[02:37] <zamuro> danny: That should create mysql table on your database, and so the socket file.
[02:37] <BullFire> can't install initrd-tools
[02:37] <BullFire> can someone help me?
[02:38] <danny> zamuro, i put tht and it says command not found
[02:38] <zamuro> BullFire: Tried apt-get install initrd-tools?
[02:38] <redguy|work> FHX: *directories* (windows tend to call them *folders*) beginning with a . (a dot) are hidden. Files as well. You have to enable viewing hidden files in konquereor
[02:38] <zamuro> danny: the use locate mysql_create_system_tables
[02:38] <BullFire> yes, but it can't find
[02:38] <BullFire> ir
[02:38] <BullFire> it
[02:39] <redguy|work> !info initrd-tools
[02:39] <ubotu> initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.78ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[02:39] <ompaul> FHX, you could try #kubuntu and >> mkdir -p .kde/share/apps/kdm/themes <<
[02:39] <Yeahnude> redhook sudo su in terminal?
[02:39] <redhook> Yeahnude: yes
[02:39] <Yeahnude> redhook like sudo su fredrik
[02:39] <Yeahnude> ?
[02:39] <tuskernini> if i use aplay -l i do not get 4/4 subdevices but 3/4, how do i fix it?
[02:39] <[nige] > bbs
[02:39] <[nige] > needing a rebooot
[02:39] <redhook> Yeahnude: no, sudo su, switches you to root
[02:40] <danny> zamuro, nothign happened just went bk to root@........
[02:40] <redguy|work> BullFire: hrm, you have a problem with your repos propably
[02:40] <Yeahnude> so in terminal i login as root and write sudo su ?
[02:40] <FHX> ompaul: I did, they're dead in there, noa ctivity for the past half an hour. Hm..do i type that in konsole? or in konqueror?
[02:40] <zamuro> Damn...
[02:40] <ompaul> !tell Yeahnude about sudpo
[02:40] <ompaul> konsole
[02:40] <alexisis> slt
[02:40] <MrSkalman> Get a real OS.. like DOS 6,22
[02:40] <zamuro> danny: Did you install from sources?
[02:40] <ompaul> !tell Yeahnude about sudo
[02:40] <alexisis> y as des fr
[02:40] <redhook> Yeahnude: no, doing sudo su as your regular user will switch you to root, root is the super user
[02:40] <BullFire> I have ubuntu 5.10 and server install
[02:40] <redguy|work> BullFire: since according to what ubotu said initrd-tools are in the main repository
[02:41] <ompaul> guys and gals using sudo is the way to do stuff in ubuntu - I hate to rain on your parade but you really don't need root
[02:41] <Yeahnude> redhook so i login as fredrik in terminal and write sodu su?
[02:41] <Yeahnude> :)
[02:41] <danny> zamuro, nope
[02:41] <redhook> Yeahnude: yes, sudo == Super User DO
[02:41] <zamuro> ompaul: That's rite
[02:42] <ompaul> zamuro, that may have had something to do with why I went to the bother of typing it :-)
[02:42] <lotusleaf> ompaul, unless you're compiling wine from source, then a root password is required
[02:42] <zamuro> danny: Hmmm... Try synaptic and reinstall mysql. That should fix it.
[02:42] <alexisis> wera a ubuntus french serveur
[02:42] <Yeahnude> redhook but do it saves if i login to my account fredrik in the ordinary ubuntu then?
[02:42] <ompaul> lotusleaf, wine - apt-get should sort that out
[02:43] <lotusleaf> ompaul, unless you have to compile from source to get the latest version (not always available in .deb) or cvs
[02:43] <BullFire> redguy: what is the main repository
[02:43] <BullFire> ?
[02:43] <Yeahnude> redhook i want to change the network things in ubuntu (Graphic) so i can set up my network.
[02:43] <redguy|work> !tell BullFire about nicktab
[02:43] <redguy|work> BullFire: initrd-tools of course
[02:43] <alexisis> are you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom
[02:44] <Yeahnude> how i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic?=
[02:44] <bob_4_a_day> it is a good idea to have a "root" password set, if and only if it is a strong password.  then it is a good idea.
[02:44] <alexisis> are you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom
[02:44] <ompaul> lotusleaf, well then it would be my contention that wine has a serious problem if it wants an actual password not access to uid0 that is like something you would get on a Microsoft box [/grin] 
[02:45] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: still, its a worse idea that having the root password disabled, isn't it?
[02:45] <lotusleaf> ompaul, my point remains ;)
[02:45] <Yeahnude> how i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic? Or i must reboot?
[02:45] <bob_4_a_day> redguy|work no you are wrong.
[02:46] <ompaul> Yeahnude, if you have only installed server >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<  if your having graphics problems >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[02:46] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: why?
[02:46] <danny> zamuro, by tht yr saying reinstall mysql-common, u no the exact name i gotta reinstal
[02:46] <Yeahnude> ompaul i installed expert mode
[02:46] <bob_4_a_day> if you have logs from this very night you can read all about it.
[02:46] <ompaul> Yeahnude, that would indicate to me that the first one is what you want
[02:47] <BullFire> has anyone used i
[02:47] <Goshawk_> is there a command that get a source package from arepo and compile it (so i can run dupload to add to the repo)
[02:47] <Goshawk_> ?
[02:47] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: erm, don't know what to think about what you've just said
[02:48] <ompaul> !tell Goshawk_ about compile
[02:48] <ompaul> Goshawk_, read the message from the bot
[02:48] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: if it was me you were talking to of course
[02:48] <danny> zamuro, ??? u still there
[02:48] <BullFire> has anyone used a highpiont rocketraid 2220 controller in ubuntu ?
[02:49] <s1gnAl> can someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.
[02:49] <Goshawk_> ompaul, thanks
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> in short redguy|work linux systems some times get broken. if you can not login as the user you must use root account.  having a root password makes this easy, while not having one set can force a boot from a live cd to correct the problem.   and for those not familear with linux that can be quite a chore.
[02:49] <ompaul> Goshawk_, your welcome
[02:49] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, wrong!
[02:49] <zamuro> danny: U should look for mysql-server
[02:49] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive ?
[02:49] <Badm4n> ahhh i dont get it
[02:49] <Badm4n> i want to install mrtg from remote
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> ompaul read the logs.
[02:49] <ompaul> !tell draken about ntfs
[02:50] <danny> zamuro, kk
[02:50] <zamuro> danny: Then, maybe synaptic will tell you to reinstall mysql-common as well... Then do so.
[02:50] <s1gnAl> can someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.
[02:50] <[nige] > hello
[02:50] <[nige] > still working through that wiki
[02:50] <[nige] > Syche, did some of the removal things but it has corrupted my Xorg config
[02:51] <zamuro> s1gnAl: Hmmm... There's a simple solution for that: You enable the root password and then you start using gedit as root. That'll solve the permission issue
[02:51] <[nige] > i dont have X at the moment, using the lapto now....which is okay stiil :)
[02:51] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, you do not need root - booting a box in single usermode is easy in ubuntu you stop the boot with esc at the grub menu and choose rescue - now you can reset the user password
[02:51] <zamuro> I mean... In console.
[02:51] <Yeahnude> ompaul I want to use the "system - > admin - > network" or the account manager. But it says that i dont have permission to it. Thats why i want to set Admin to my Fredrik account.
[02:51] <Syche> [nige]  : what did you remove?
[02:51] <[nige] > well i was following the wiki you address you gave me
[02:51] <[nige] > :)
[02:52] <bob_4_a_day> ompaul sulogin can be easily disabled in the gui,  what then ?   and that was the case last night.
[02:52] <[nige] > i removed the restricted Modules
[02:52] <Syche> ok
[02:52] <shreevatsa> How can I find out what soundcard I have?
[02:52] <foxiness> hi, is there tool to help me to orgnize my file and folder like i have two folder with the same name ebook and diff contents ,is there tool help on this filed?
[02:52] <Yeahnude> Can i eneble to login with root?
[02:52] <Syche> thats fine
[02:52] <ompaul> Yeahnude, in a terminal type this: gksudo network-admin << as the "first user on the box"
[02:52] <s1gnAl> zamuro: I had thought about that, but I like the idea of the root account being disabled. They really should include an option in some of these apps to run as sudo, that is my only gripe about this distro so far, other than that I love it!
[02:52] <danny> zamuro, right i done that now wot do i do?
[02:52] <Syche> it will only affect madwifi etc
[02:53] <garrut> s1gnAl why don't you just start gedit etc with sudo?
[02:53] <zamuro> danny: Did you install both packages?
[02:53] <Syche> so did you do the  module-assistant
[02:53] <bob_4_a_day> and if sulogin is disabled booting in single puts you at a login prompt....
[02:53] <[nige] > hmmm
[02:53] <[nige] > it killed something in x for me
[02:53] <[nige] > i might go look at the xorg log
[02:53] <danny> zamuro, common and server if so yes
[02:53] <s1gnAl> garrut: how would I do that? applications->system tools->run as different user?
[02:54] <Goshawk_> ompaul, i'm the one about compiling, my problem is different, i've set up a ubuntu like repo, now i uploaded one package and i want to build tha same package for another arch, is there a command to allow this?
[02:54] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive, simple, not auto or any of that junk
[02:54] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, that is the first case of that which  have come across
[02:54] <zamuro> danny: Didn't asked you for anything else?
[02:54] <Gaain> Hi all, newb to tis do I need to start a thread or just chat?
[02:54] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, I have
[02:54] <raphink> just chat Gaain
[02:54] <Gaain> have problem with ubuntu and web
[02:54] <danny> zamuro, well i just typed in mysql into console and it didnt come up with the socket error
[02:55] <Syche> [nige]  : all you have to make sure in X.org is that ati is there in place of fglrx
[02:55] <Syche> that means you use the open source ati driver
[02:55] <garrut> s1gnAl: yes, or just type 'sudo <command> from a console'
[02:55] <[nige] > well like mesa drivers?
[02:55] <Syche> yes
[02:55] <zamuro> danny: Did it appear in a console some like mysql>?
[02:55] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: hrm, you are talking about an extreme situation, and, at least in ubuntu, you always have the rescue boot mode, so still you can boot and be root without having the root's password enabled. And also always you can boot with init=/bin/bash, so the live cd is not the only option
[02:55] <s1gnAl> ahh ok crap I didnt even think about that
[02:55] <[nige] > well it has been using the mesa drivers
[02:55] <s1gnAl> Thanks!
[02:55] <danny> zamuro, yea
[02:55] <[nige] > i want the ati ones to be installed
[02:55] <[nige] > :)
[02:55] <ompaul> Goshawk_, the right place to ask that is #ubuntu-motu there are different switches in gcc for each arch
[02:55] <garrut> np :)
[02:55] <zamuro> danny: Then you're done
[02:56] <danny> zamuro, thanks
[02:56] <foxiness> s1gnAl, i agree with your idea on many area like browser /var/backup it must be root i think this will confuse the user new to linux or ubuntu
[02:56] <zamuro> No problem
[02:56] <Syche> Then continue with the steps
[02:56] <draken> cn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something
[02:56] <Syche> yyou can do it on the command line itself
[02:57] <Yeahnude> For using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write?
[02:57] <Gaain> Question: Am trying to get into Linux as Ive has enough of the other side, the IT dude at work pointed me towards Ubuntu. I have installed it onto a spare machine but it wont connect to web. I have set the "network settings" to direct internet connection, If I type in my routers ip it will allow me to enter it and it also spots my windows network and I can share files across it. It just will not connect to web. When its "lan'd" it shows up in my router with 
[02:58] <s1gnAl> foxiness: I like the idea of root being disabled, BUT, they really should include a menu or something to enable root permissions temporarily for applications that need them(editing files for example)
[02:58] <draken> cn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something
[02:58] <shreevatsa> I know this sounds stupid, but is it possible to find out what soundcard I have?
[02:58] <garrut> Gaain try going to 82.211.81.130
[02:58] <redhook> shreevatsa: lspci
[02:59] <foxiness> s1gnAl, indeed, not every one know about nautilus
[02:59] <foxiness>  than how he will do this on easy way
[02:59] <Syche> lspci |gp audio
[02:59] <[nige] > okay
[02:59] <Syche> oops
[02:59] <[nige] > i have X running again
[02:59] <Yeahnude> For using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write?? I want to use ALL the system tools
[02:59] <shreevatsa> redhook: Is this a soundcard? "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller"
[03:00] <s1gnAl> draken: I believe you can mount an NTFS share by using mount -t ntfs /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/path, check the man pages
[03:00] <redguy|work> !ntfs
[03:00] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:01] <foxiness> s1gnAl, sure it good to disable but must be something around this like create vm or virtual filesystem on space of user i dont know but must have an idea for this
[03:01] <s1gnAl> foxiness: lol, I just got a crash course in nautilus myself, I am a longtime Gentoo user and things are a little different here
[03:01] <Syche> [nige]  : And once you get to sudo module-assistant a-i fglrx, dont follow the next step. Instead change ati to fglrx in your xorg.conf
[03:01] <s1gnAl> afk, coffee time
[03:02] <draken> how do i check all my hdds again
[03:02] <draken> like there space and names
[03:02] <[nige] > hmm okay
[03:02] <[nige] > i will do that
[03:02] <[nige] > :)
[03:02] <[nige] > running through a few things now
[03:02] <foxiness> draken, df -h
[03:02] <draken> how do i check all my hdds again, like there info
[03:02] <[nige] > Syche, do i need to recopile the kernel for this
[03:02] <Syche> no
[03:02] <[nige] > i have never before done that
[03:03] <foxiness> draken, or form menu system mintor
[03:03] <Syche> don't worry about that
[03:03] <draken> err fox, it doesnt have my ntfs drive there ?
[03:03] <CodyDH> Hi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?
[03:03] <Gaain> garrut: It the browser title bar read "Canonical Ltd" , loading bar gets to about 1/3 across and thats it. No other software running but XP, Mirc and Ubuntu and Mozilla. Strating to point towards DNS settings is it?
[03:04] <foxiness> draken, fdisk -l
[03:04] <[nige] > oh
[03:04] <redguy|work> Gaain: seems so
[03:04] <rod> hi
[03:04] <[nige] > you might know this, how do I set the resolution to be used in my shell screen?
[03:04] <Syche> [nige]  : I'll be gone for an hour or so. Send me a PM about what hapened ;)
[03:04] <[nige] > no worries
[03:04] <[nige] > :)
[03:04] <rod> using dapper i  get this error
[03:04] <rod> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/openoffice.org2-core_2.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:04] <rod> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:04] <[nige] > cheers for ththat
[03:05] <rod> how to get around this, please?
[03:05] <Gaain> My other concern is why is the Unbuntu machine spoof my other machines host name althoug it has a different IP and mac
[03:05] <redguy|work> !tell rod about pastebin
[03:05] <draken> omfg
[03:05] <[nige] > rod you do and apt-get -f package...that will force the install
[03:05] <draken> i cant take this no root shit
[03:05] <CodyDH> draken: so enable the root account
[03:05] <[nige] > but you probably dont want to do that, if there is mismatch with the md # it could be a damaged package
[03:05] <draken> how ?
[03:05] <shreevatsa> draken: sudo passwd
[03:05] <CodyDH> draken: sudo passwd
[03:05] <s1gnAl> draken: it takes some getting used to
[03:05] <draken> no, i want to login with root
[03:05] <Seveas> draken, then enable the root account and let sudo ask for the root password...
[03:05] <draken> not sudo
[03:05] <s1gnAl> I had the same gripes
[03:06] <Seveas> !tell draken about root
[03:06] <shreevatsa> draken: Do it once
[03:06] <draken> no
[03:06] <Seveas> read that wikipage, it tells it all
[03:06] <s1gnAl> but I think it is actually better without it
[03:06] <draken> i cant do anything in the gui
[03:06] <draken> everywhere i go, no root
[03:06] <shreevatsa> draken: You only have to do "sudo passwd" once to enable a root account
[03:06] <draken> shreevatsa: , i want to LOGIN with root
[03:06] <s1gnAl> draken: there is a simple solution to that, I just ran into that same issue
[03:06] <draken> wat slgn?
[03:06] <redguy|work> draken: login with root and use a gui? eek!
[03:06] <shreevatsa> *shudder*
[03:07] <rod> [nige] , no - while usign -f it will still check the md5 sum which is incorrect and so the install fails
[03:07] <rod> How to install ubuntu-desktop, but without openoffice then?
[03:07] <Gaain> Whats the LINUX cmd for ipconfig please?
[03:07] <[nige] > hmmm
[03:07] <Seveas> Gaain, ifconfig
[03:07] <mjr> ifconfig
[03:07] <[nige] > i am not sure
[03:07] <[nige] > try the man page on apt-get
[03:07] <[nige] > :)
[03:07] <s1gnAl> draken: open a console, and sudo the app you want to run from there, for example, for file browser with root permissions, type sudo nautilus&
[03:07] <Gaain> ta
[03:07] <draken> wtf
[03:08] <s1gnAl> or you can go to applications->system tools->run as different user
[03:08] <Seveas> foxiness, because you are configuring interfaces, not the IP protocol...
[03:08] <redguy|work> rod: maybe it was downloaded incorrectly, look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the openoffice .deb, delete it and apt-get it again
[03:08] <[nige] > try apt-get install --force-yes package i guess
[03:09] <Yeahnude> Seveas have u time to help my problem. I want to use system tools with my account admin
[03:09] <foxiness> Seveas, thank you to let me know about it
[03:09] <redguy|work> rod: or you could do an apt-get clean perhaps, but this will wipe all archives from /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:09] <[nige] > sorry its apt-get install package --force-yes
[03:09] <draken> s1gnAl:
[03:09] <CodyDH> How do I disable mouse gestures in FireFox?
[03:09] <[nige] > although it could render your system useless
[03:09] <redguy|work> Yeahnude: is the user in the 'admin' group?
[03:09] <shreevatsa> Why is it so impossible to get sound to work properly on Linux?
[03:09] <draken> now it tunes i cant take shit off my ntfs drive
[03:09] <draken> access denied
[03:09] <rod> ok redguy|work ill try... but i must say it downloads the package everytime, is doesnt seem to use the cached one... Will try though, gimme a sec ;)
[03:09] <CodyDH> draken: The best solution is to copy the stuff to your Linux partition
[03:10] <ompaul> shreevatsa, is it not, as a matter of interest what kind of sound card are you using
[03:10] <CodyDH> draken: So your applications can work with the files properly.
[03:10] <redguy|work> draken: why won't you rad the stuff we ask you to read?
[03:10] <redguy|work> !tell draken about ntfs
[03:10] <s1gnAl> draken: is it a protected volume? i.e., are you trying to copy from an unshared folder?
[03:10] <shreevatsa> ompaul: lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[03:10] <draken> no
[03:10] <draken> its fine i got that working
[03:10] <gunfus> I managed to install ubuntu but all I ahve is the console login
[03:10] <draken> but dont u find it fucking dumb if u cant do anything ?
[03:10] <draken> without sudo
[03:10] <draken> i mean god
[03:10] <gunfus> no graphical interface.
[03:11] <CodyDH> draken: So enable su!
[03:11] <CodyDH> draken: There is a solution, if you're yelling you wont' find it.
[03:11] <Malachi> draken: Please, refrain from the language.
[03:11] <s1gnAl> draken: I agree, but I also like the idea of root being disabled, just a different way of doing things
[03:11] <Yeahnude> Best way to use system tools s1gnAl
[03:11] <Yeahnude> ?
[03:11] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Should I use esd, alsa, arts, oss, .... what?
[03:11] <s1gnAl> this is undoubtedly the best distro I have used by far, and I have been linuxing since '97
[03:12] <nandro> how do I get folders on the network to show up in apps like bit torrent?  I can only see local folders when it asks me where I want to save
[03:12] <redguy|work> draken: I can do lot's of things without sudo, maybe there's something wrong with your install
[03:12] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: what are you trying to do?
[03:12] <gunfus> hwo do I get the graph interfance
[03:12] <gunfus> and where all my applications?
[03:12] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl use all of my system tools
[03:12] <Syche> shreevatsa: my laptop has the same chipset and sound works fine here
[03:12] <gunfus> I don't get ubuntus
[03:12] <ompaul> shreevatsa, alsa is always good, that card uses the i810_audio and ac97_codec -modules
[03:12] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl its said child 1 terminated
[03:12] <Syche> bothe out of the box and my compiled kernel too
[03:13] <shreevatsa> ompaul: what does that mean? Do I have to do something and get i810_audio and ac97_codec modules?
[03:13] <draken> how do i get into network settings via sudo ?
[03:13] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: not sure, what command are you attempting to run?
[03:13] <redguy|work> gunfus: any error messages during the install?
[03:13] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl in the ubuuntu i want to run everything in system_tool
[03:13] <Yeahnude> s
[03:13] <redguy|work> gunfus: you have to give us some information if you want to get help
[03:13] <s1gnAl> draken: it should prompt you
[03:13] <Yeahnude> but it saids i have no permission to htat
[03:13] <ompaul> shreevatsa, the problem with audio is the closed nature of the cards, both of those modules need to be loaded it appears for that card to be happy
[03:13] <draken> s1gnAl: , it asks fr root passowrd, i give it,  nothing unlocks
[03:14] <redguy|work> gunfus: something more informative than 'hwo do I get the graph interfance'
[03:14] <s1gnAl> draken: it will be your normal user password
[03:14] <draken> i know
[03:14] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I didn't know that... how do I load those modules? (or check if they are loaded already)?
[03:14] <draken> it accepts the passwor
[03:14] <draken> but it doesnt work
[03:14] <draken> ffs
[03:14] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl do u know?
[03:14] <Yeahnude> draken we have same problem
[03:14] <gunfus> redguy|work, well I had to skip some steps of the install because it will always hang installing GRUB, so I skipped that and install LILO
[03:15] <draken> i know Yeahnude , and they not listening to us
[03:15] <draken> its like root isnt evne admin
[03:15] <ompaul> shreevatsa, lsmod
[03:15] <s1gnAl> draken/yeahnude: did you guys enable the root account by using sudo passwd root?
[03:15] <Syche> shreevatsa: lsmod |grep snd
[03:15] <gunfus> redguy|work, it is possible that I didn't install all the rest of the apps but I didn't know how to install them and install LILO instead of GRUB
[03:16] <draken> s1gnAl: , i tried, didnt change passwd
[03:16] <draken> its still my user password
[03:16] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl in terminal (logged as root) i have changed my password TWICE
[03:16] <gunfus> redguy|work, the install process would always go automaticly into isntalling GRUB after installing the other apps
[03:16] <shreevatsa> ompaul: There are some lines that say "snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x0", etc. Does this mean those modules are loaded?
[03:16] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok
[03:16] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i want to change many things in the system-tools but i dont have permission i want to high my rank att account admin OR log in ass root but its not working
[03:17] <redguy|work> gunfus: sec
[03:17] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay
[03:17] <draken> ya same nude
[03:17] <s1gnAl> yeahnude/draken: ok, that is part of the problem. I read in the wiki yesterday that if you DO enable the root account, it will break many of the gui tools. Let me find the command to disable the root account, brb.
[03:17] <draken> ok thanks
[03:17] <ompaul> shreevatsa, well the second one might do the same job, try loading >>alsamixer<< and see if any of the channels are muted
[03:17] <Yeahnude> Thx
[03:17] <Yeahnude> :D
[03:18] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Actually, sound *is* working for me, except that I sometimes have to ask mplayer to use a different -ao... The problem I'm having right now is that it's not "recognizing" my Line In
[03:18] <hyakuhei> whats the quick way to auto-configure X ?
[03:18] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i love you if u find it
[03:18] <hyakuhei> ie, i want to set up some defaults for a graphics card im swapping in
[03:19] <shreevatsa> That is, I've connected a cassette player to my computer's Line In, and it plays through the speakers, but I can't record it in Audacity
[03:19] <rod> ohhh pls... how to install Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[03:19] <rod>     installed.
[03:19] <nandro> is there a way to make programs see a network folder the same as a local folder?
[03:19] <s1gnAl> draken/yeahnude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f80594
[03:19] <s1gnAl> that whole page is about the use of sudo under ubuntu
[03:20] <ompaul> shreevatsa, well looka to see if it is muted
[03:20] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, are you logged in?
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: And I know I've connected it to Line In, not "Mic" or something, because muting "Line" in alsamixer mutes it
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: No, it plays through the speakers fine
[03:20] <gunfus> redguy|work, yes I am logged into a normal console
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I can hear it, change the volume (it's called just "Line" in alsamixer), but I can't record it
[03:20] <Gaain> Does anyone know the sudo password for ubuntu please "passwd" doesnt seem to work?
[03:21] <Gaain> im trying to access netwrok admin
[03:21] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, what does dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop say?
[03:21] <ompaul> shreevatsa, I have no other thoughts on it
[03:21] <hyakuhei> Gaain: the userpassword
[03:21] <gunfus> let em check
[03:21] <delmonico> hi. what packages contains the system configuration applications that Ubuntus GNOME desktop uses? I would like to have them on a kde-ubuntu...
[03:21] <s1gnAl> Gaain: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:21] <giggsey> Gaain: isn't it your password (the user)
[03:21] <hyakuhei> Gaain: for the user calling sudo
[03:21] <redguy|work> gunfus: don't paste it in here, just see if it says that i's installed
[03:21] <Gaain> hang on ill try it
[03:22] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Ok, thanks for being helpful, then.... Do you know any programs for recording audio, BTW?
[03:22] <s1gnAl> afk, more coffee
[03:22] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. thanks for the reminder.. I keep forgeting there is paste.bin
[03:22] <redguy|work> gunfus: I'm assuming that you were installing ubuntu, not kubuntu, xubuntu
[03:22] <gunfus> right.. it was ubuntu
[03:22] <Gaain> hyak. giggsey and signal thanks
[03:23] <redguy|work> gunfus: well? did it say that ubuntu-desktop is not installed?
[03:23] <_draken> err
[03:23] <_draken> can i get that link again
[03:23] <gunfus> sorry the PC was booting
[03:23] <redguy|work> gunfus: or did it display lots of stuff
[03:23] <_draken> my other linux program just cut in, where the screen starts corrupting and them it freezes sig
[03:23] <gunfus>  dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop3
[03:23] <ompaul> shreevatsa, I use my mic in audacity when I want to send complete messages to people like "ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu" and such like :-) if the volume was turned right down on the player would it work with the mic? just another idea - though the power might be too much but hey you never know
[03:24] <s1gnAl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f80594
[03:24] <ompaul> shreevatsa, it could blow the card but that is a chance you have to consider
[03:24] <redguy|work> gunfus: dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <gunfus> redguy|work, the package is not installed and there is no information
[03:24] <shreevatsa> ompaul: OMG, I just realised I'm the most stupid person ever... The input volume was turned down!
[03:24] <s1gnAl> DOH!
[03:24] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I've spent more than three hours trying to "fix" it :(
[03:25] <s1gnAl> shree: lol, it happens man
[03:25] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Stupid me... thanks!
[03:25] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, we're getting somewhere
[03:25] <gunfus> okay
[03:25] <redguy|work> gunfus: what about dpkg -s ubuntu-base ?
[03:25] <ompaul> shreevatsa, don't be so hard on yourself, leave that job for me }:->
[03:25] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i typed in terminal (logged as root) sudo passwd root
[03:25] <Yeahnude> but when i log in the begininng of ubutu its said. u cant login with root
[03:25] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Ok, go ahead then :) I've wasted enough of your time to justify that ;)
[03:26] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: are you trying to login to the desktop via root?
[03:26] <[nige] > Syche, it has updated it
[03:26] <gunfus> redguy|work, same thing
[03:26] <[nige] > Syche, it seems to be okay now, just have to reconfigure my monitors :)
[03:26] <ompaul> Yeahnude, question have you actually got any worthwhile data on that box, would you consider backing it up reinstalling and working from there?
[03:26] <|Lestat|> is thee any way i can diable modules from starting at boot up? and will that eat less ram if i do remove some? :)
[03:26] <ompaul> Yeahnude, with no messing with root passwords :-)
[03:26] <|Lestat|> er disable modules
[03:26] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Anyway, you're saying that alsa has no problems at all?
[03:27] <s1gnAl> I agree with ompaul
[03:27] <redguy|work> gunfus, ok then. Do you have the install CD in your CDROM drive?
[03:27] <sunsun> hi
[03:27] <s1gnAl> may solve a lot of your problems
[03:27] <sunsun> nalioth, are you here?
[03:27] <gunfus> redguy|work, no.. but I am putting in right now
[03:27] <gunfus> redguy|work, done
[03:27] <redguy|work> gunfus: if not, put it in, and run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <sunsun> i have reinstalled my win  partition and its overidden grubloader 1.5, how do i get the grubloader to go??>
[03:28] <redguy|work> gunfus: it will ask for your password and should install the missing stuff
[03:28] <visik7> sunsun: livecd->grub
[03:28] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. let me try that
[03:28] <ompaul> shreevatsa, no, it is not that alsa is without fault, it is that it is good, and what is even more fun sound will always be a pain as long as sound card makers insist on making their work closed
[03:28] <napstar567> hey guys, can any one tell me why my: sudo cvs is not responding right
[03:28] <sunsun> viskik7, there is an installer?
[03:28] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[03:28] <sunsun> visik7, or do i do a command on the shell?
[03:28] <ompaul> Susana, the man is ZZZZZ
[03:28] <s1gnAl> napstar: what command are you trying to execute and what is the error message you are getting?
[03:29] <visik7> sunsun: run grub from a shell
[03:29] <sunsun> visik7, what is the command??
[03:29] <napstar567> cvs: command not found
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. well it is trying to install it.. ohh by the way.. I didn't need the CD I configure it to get it from FTP
[03:29] <sunsun> visik7, just run grubloader 1.5???
[03:29] <MarcN> napstar567: seems like you need to install cvs...
[03:29] <s1gnAl> napstar: dumb question, but is it installed?
[03:29] <binarydigit> napstar567: you need to install it before you can use it
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, that shouldn't matter
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, either way it should work
[03:29] <napstar567> yea
[03:30] <redguy|work> gunfus: but some of the stuff is on the CD, why waste the bandwidth?
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl yes:P
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl how i login via root?
[03:30] <gunfus> redguy|work, true.. but I want to get the latest stuff
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i want to use system tools
[03:30] <s1gnAl> napstar: check your $PATH variable and make sure the directory CVS is located in is there
[03:30] <napstar567> yea i did install it
[03:30] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: read the wiki, it's in there
[03:30] <napstar567> i will try to reinstall it
[03:30] <napstar567> thanks
[03:31] <binarydigit> napstar567: how did you install it
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: run grub
[03:31] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl whats its call?
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: fron a shell
[03:31] <sunsun> visik7, thanks this will make it permanent?
[03:31] <sunsun> hmm...
[03:31] <s1gnAl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, make note of it, that is the last time I am pasting it
[03:31] <thoeger> Any linux-ppc users in here?
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: run grub - it will open a shell
[03:32] <visik7> then install grub telling the boot partition and other parameters
[03:32] <sunsun> visik7, now i am loading into the live cd... and going through the process
[03:32] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl im in there, and i have eneble it , but how i login to the desktop ? is the last qauest
[03:32] <redguy|work> gunfus: sure, but most of the stuff in the repositories is the same than the stuff on the CD, ubuntu people put newerversions only if there is a security issue with the older versions
[03:32] <visik7> sunsun: run the command "grub" from the live cd
[03:32] <napstar567> sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:32] <sunsun> i think there is a command to get the shell straight away, do you know what that could be>
[03:32] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: read the page! it's at the bottom on how to enable it
[03:32] <thoeger> Been trying to make firefox or opera running java but with no luck
[03:32] <sunsun> visik7, thks
[03:33] <thoeger> Anyone got in working?
[03:33] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. well should I cancel it?
[03:33] <s1gnAl> thoeger: did you install the JVM?
[03:33] <thoeger> Yup
[03:33] <redguy|work> gunfus: no, /me just being informative today :-)
[03:33] <binarydigit> thoeger: did you follow the instructions on the wiki
[03:33] <thoeger> s1gnAl : IBM java 1.4.2 and 1.5 beta
[03:34] <s1gnAl> thoeger: any reason why you didn't use Sun's JVM?
[03:34] <sunsun> visik7, it does not work... what is the command?
[03:34] <thoeger> binarydigit:  Yeah, running java -showversion runs fine
[03:34] <Zambba> I downloaded Ubuntu for PPC and it doesn't boot in my PowerMac. What's wrong?
[03:34] <thoeger> I'm on ppc
[03:34] <sunsun> hey guys, what is the command to get grubloader 1.5 again?
[03:34] <s1gnAl> ahh ok
[03:34] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay thanks
[03:34] <binarydigit> thoeger: did you copy the plugins into the firefox plugin folder
[03:34] <binarydigit> like the wiki said
[03:34] <visik7> sunsun: the command is grub and a grub-shell should open
[03:35] <draken> im using KDE ppl, and sometimes out of no where, the screen starts to corrupt and go green,yellow,brown and then everything freezes but mouse
[03:35] <draken> then i got to reboot, but that be video drivers ?
[03:35] <thoeger> binarydigit: Yup. Makes firefox crash everytime I try testing it on javatester.org and sun's test page.
[03:35] <Yeahnude> !tell kubuntu
[03:35] <s1gnAl> draken: did you have any previous hardware issues?
[03:35] <redguy|work> draken: or the video hardware?
[03:35] <draken> nope
[03:35] <draken> working all fine in windows
[03:36] <sunsun> visik7, i am in terminal... on ubuntulive and the grub shell isnt opening
[03:36] <s1gnAl> draken: what card do you have?
[03:36] <sunsun> visik7, so what should i do
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: oh
[03:36] <draken> geforce 6600gt
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: mount the partition
[03:36] <thoeger> s1gnAl & binarydigit: Might it be a problem that I run a home-compiled FF 1.5 instead of the 1.0.7 in the breezy repos?
[03:36] <s1gnAl> draken: pci-e or AGP?
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: and chroot in it
[03:36] <draken> agp
[03:37] <Yeahnude> What is kubuntu?`
[03:37] <s1gnAl> thoeger: could be, try a ubuntu built binary
[03:37] <binarydigit> thoeger: i feel like it may have something to do with you not using suns JVM
[03:37] <Yeahnude> !tell kubuntu
[03:37] <Mabus06> how do I get two monitos to work with m radeon x700 pro
[03:37] <binarydigit> but i dont know
[03:37] <draken> so s1gnAl , could it be drivers? im downloading latest atm
[03:37] <Riddell> !kubuntu
[03:37] <ubotu> methinks kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:37] <s1gnAl> drakenL: you can try that, if it ends up not being that, Im not sure really
[03:37] <visik7> sunsun: do you got it ?
[03:38] <sunsun> visik7, what is the command to mount the partition?
[03:38] <draken> k s1gnAl
[03:38] <thoeger> binartydigit: there are reports on a working ibm/firefox thingie... Just hoped it would work.
[03:38] <visik7> sunsun:  -.-
[03:38] <visik7> sunsun: mount ???
[03:38] <sunsun> then >
[03:38] <sunsun> ??
[03:38] <sunsun> how to schroot>
[03:38] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl Enabling graphical root login - THen i must USE the Adminstration BUT i CANT if I dont are logged as ROOT
[03:39] <visik7> sunsun: mount -t <filesystem> <partition> <mountpoint>
[03:39] <visik7> sunsun: for a better explaination man mount
[03:39] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: I am out of options, I would say your best bet would be to re-install at this point
[03:39] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) < How CAN i do that without be logged root
[03:39] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl why reinstall+
[03:40] <thoeger> s1gnAl, binarydigit : thanx for the support anyway :-)
[03:40] <s1gnAl> because it will solve your problems unless you are willing to dig into it and fix it
[03:40] <binarydigit> no prob
[03:40] <s1gnAl> anytime thoeger
[03:40] <sunsun> visik7, i dont know the filesystem's name..
[03:40] <sunsun> yikes
[03:40] <visik7> sunsun: the filesystem type
[03:40] <sunsun> how do i find that
[03:40] <visik7> ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs, and so on
[03:40] <Kindred> 4.10?..
[03:41] <sunsun> ohh... yes. hmm, i think its ext3
[03:41] <sunsun> i dont know the partition name...  for hoary
[03:41] <thoeger> another thing to the house, I've been asking this before... Anyone got an idea why gdesklets and stellarium crash my Xorg? It's not like it's one single desklet; just wiped my .gdesklets dir and it still kills it running gdesklets from the main menu
[03:41] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl but cant you only say HOW i log in via root to dekstop ..? Or how i Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) do that without permission in dekstop?
[03:41] <omfg> arg
[03:42] <omfg> draken here, it crashed again
[03:42] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: search the forums, I don't know
[03:42] <omfg> u see s1gnAl, draken here, it crashed again
[03:42] <dsp2> who can help me with just a little problem here?
[03:42] <omfg> i thought linux was ment to be stable erf
[03:43] <thoeger> whatta ya mean omfg ?
[03:43] <s1gnAl> omfg: not sure man
[03:43] <omfg> thoeger, ill be sitting in the GUI, then shit for start corrupting, thene verything freezes
[03:44] <omfg> mouse can move, but everything is stuck
[03:44] <Gaain> can any one through me a random ip address for a website please not the name (bbc or something) if trying to sus wether it is a dns setting not allowing my www.google.com homepage to connect. Thanks
[03:44] <thoeger> omfg, that's even *very* stable I'd say... ;-)
[03:44] <[nige] > omfg,  have you checked your messages
[03:44] <s1gnAl> omfg: are you overclocking?
[03:44] <[nige] > omfg, as in /var/log/messages?
[03:45] <omfg> err let me look
[03:45] <omfg> s1gnAl no
[03:45] <[nige] > that should give you some clue as whats going on :)
[03:45] <kestas> what do you mean shit for start corrupting?
[03:45] <kestas> and does it crash on windows?
[03:46] <s1gnAl> I want to beautify my gnome desktop, anyone got any theme/wallpaper suggestions?
[03:46] <omfg> my windows is 1005
[03:46] <omfg> my windows is 100%
[03:46] <omfg> [nige] 
[03:46] <omfg> Dec 30 16:38:03 Draken kernel: [  777.667153]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.
[03:46] <thoeger> s1gnAl, What kinda themes du you like?
[03:46] <omfg> is last thing
[03:46] <[nige] > hmm
[03:46] <[nige] > okay
[03:46] <[nige] > so it locks up
[03:46] <s1gnAl> thoeger: just looking for something cool, I like sci-fi, nature, and computer stuff
[03:46] <[nige] > you restart and it seems okay
[03:46] <[nige] > ?
[03:46] <omfg> ya
[03:47] <omfg> then it might work for 20mins no prob then mess up
[03:47] <omfg> might mess up as i get in
[03:47] <[nige] > hmm
[03:47] <[nige] > check your cpu temp
[03:47] <[nige] > or even your hdd
[03:47] <thoeger> s1gnAl, my fav icon theme is nuoveXT, dunno if thats anything for you
[03:47] <[nige] > sounds more like a hardware error to me than a linux on
[03:47] <[nige] > e
[03:47] <omfg> all that stuff is fine
[03:47] <omfg> i been running windows for months on this pc
[03:47] <s1gnAl> thoeger: where can I find it?
[03:47] <[nige] > so what are you been doing on the pc?
[03:47] <thoeger> that and digital-perfaction GTK and Met makes my evolution look like...
[03:47] <[nige] > do you have any weird usb devices attached to it
[03:47] <CodyDH> Hi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?
[03:47] <[nige] > like usb network cables?
[03:48] <omfg> i have psp usb cable
[03:48] <omfg> but its not plugged into psp
[03:48] <Seveas> CodyDH, powernowd or cpufreq
[03:48] <thoeger> s1gnAl, gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org are your friends... :)
[03:48] <[nige] > CodyDH,  sounds like its wants to save power longer batteries
[03:48] <[nige] > hmm
[03:48] <s1gnAl> Im there now ;)
[03:48] <[nige] > weird psp thin aye...
[03:48] <CodyDH> Seveas: Which does it use by default?
[03:48] <Seveas> depends on the cpu :)
[03:48] <[nige] > does did it crash last time it was plugged in
[03:49] <[nige] > or was it crashing prior it being plugged in
[03:49] <CodyDH> Seveas: Pentium M 2nd gen
[03:49] <st3f> what wm do u guys use?
[03:49] <omfg> its always been plugged in
[03:49] <CodyDH> st3f: gnome
[03:49] <gunfus> redguy|work, after downlading everything
[03:49] <[nige] > okay
[03:49] <Seveas> CodyDH, cpufreq it is
[03:49] <omfg> im downloading my motherboard+gfx card drivers for linux now
[03:49] <omfg> maybe that will fix
[03:49] <[nige] > plug it in now
[03:49] <gunfus> redguy|work, will it change my init to 5
[03:49] <gunfus> ?
[03:49] <kane77> hi, can anyone help me to set up program so it would start automatically on system startup....
[03:49] <[nige] > if it does i would say its probably the usb thingo
[03:49] <CodyDH> Seveas: OK... Thanks (I'm now using Fedora and want to implement that as well :))
[03:49] <[nige] > i know it  dided on a few of my usb devices
[03:49] <[nige] > like usb network cards etc.
[03:50] <Yeahnude> Seveas do u know how i login or change so i can login to the desktiop with root.. i have (sudo passwd root) already
[03:50] <thoeger> kane77, go to desktop preferences -> sessions
[03:50] <erUSUL> kane77, whaen you log in gnome or during init
[03:50] <kane77> thoeger: thanx...
[03:50] <thoeger> kane77, anytime ...
[03:51] <cdtbud> if i've got mysql4.1 what the apt-get command to upgrade it to 5?
[03:51] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, not a wise idea. use root only when indispensable. login as root is not a good idea
[03:51] <kane77> thoeger: I think I can go on from here...
[03:51] <thoeger> kane77, yup, it's pretty self-explaining from there
[03:52] <Gaain> Right. My Ubuntu connection will resolve IP addresses such as 212.58.224.35 (bbc.co.uk), but not www.bbc.co.uk. I can browse my windows network and access my router (DLINK_) through the network . ANyone nknow what I need to change to get Ubuntu to resolve the typed addresses at the moment everything is set to AUTO, DHCP and such??????
[03:52] <kestas> cdtbud, well if the current version of ubuntu doesn't have that version then you'll have to wait, or compile it yourself
[03:52] <Falstius> is there a tool for adding and removing scripts from runlevels?  The admin->services app is pretty worthless.
[03:52] <cdtbud> ah thanks hadnt thought of that
[03:52] <gaz> Hang on mu IRC has juct connected
[03:53] <kestas> Falstius, you could always do it manually
[03:53] <Yeahnude> erUSUL i want to login as root
[03:53] <gaz> and im now reading my other login as gaain
[03:53] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, why?
[03:53] <CodyDH> Seveas: another question... what would be a command or program I could run that would produce enough activity to full throttle the CPU?
[03:53] <Yeahnude> erUSUL change system tools
[03:53] <redguy|work> Falstius: update-rc.d
[03:53] <Falstius> kestas: yes, but then I have to manually check dependencies too.  And check each run level, yada yada.  I'd like a chkconfig analog.
[03:53] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, ??
[03:53] <kestas> CodyDH, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null
[03:54] <Seveas> kestas, you read my mind :)
[03:54] <CodyDH> And would a Control-C stop that?
[03:54] <kestas> Seveas, :)
[03:54] <Seveas> CodyDH, yes
[03:54] <gaz> Still wont connect to any www.XXXX>com though
[03:54] <CodyDH> Strange
[03:54] <CodyDH> I have a little gnome applet that tells me what speed my CPU is at... it says 600MHz... and I can't get that to change. And as far as I can tell I'm running cpufreqd.
[03:54] <Yeahnude> erUSUL adminstrativ tools
[03:54] <thoeger> btw; at gnome login i get a warning that my $HOME/.dmrc has wrong permission and ownership... I changed it once but changed it back to 644.
[03:54] <CodyDH> But then again, it's not really your guys' job to support Fedora, is it :)
[03:55] <Seveas> gaz, the built-in porn filter will not allow xxx.com ;)
[03:55] <gaz> lol,
[03:55] <thoeger> Cant get rid of the warning though... Any idea how I can ?
[03:55] <Seveas> CodyDH, correct, try #fedora :)
[03:55] <gaz> www.anything.com
[03:55] <jk-> does anyone have a file: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gdk-pixbuf-2.0.pc ??
[03:55] <CodyDH> Thanks for the help, guys!
[03:55] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, you can do this with sudo (sudo -i)
[03:55] <omfg> wats a text editor in linux called ?
[03:55] <thoeger> omfg: a text editor....
[03:56] <[nige] > vi
[03:56] <[nige] > vim
[03:56] <omfg> gedit doesnt work
[03:56] <[nige] > nano
[03:56] <erUSUL> omfg, emacs ;)
[03:56] <omfg> ta
[03:56] <[nige] > pico
[03:56] <[nige] > :)
[03:56] <Belutz> lol
[03:56] <Stew_Lappy> joe is a good one
[03:56] <thoeger> nano
[03:56] <thoeger> nedit
[03:56] <thoeger> omfg: whats the prob w gedit?
[03:56] <Belutz> notepad.exe with wine :p
[03:56] <Belutz> j/k
[03:57] <Falstius> redguy|work: thanks.  That is what I was looking for.
[03:57] <thoeger> omfg: Gobby for collaborative editing
[03:57] <omfg> thoeger, i type gedit, nothing happens
[03:57] <omfg> :
[03:57] <thoeger> omfg: strange
[03:58] <Seveas> !editor
[03:58] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Seveas
[03:58] <visik7> is there a backport of kde 3.5 for breezy somewhere ?
[03:58] <Seveas> !you broken
[03:58] <ubotu> Eep! *crash*
[03:58] <Seveas> !kde35
[03:58] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:58] <thoeger> !editor
[03:58] <Seveas> dang
[03:58] <Seveas> visik7, see kubuntu.org
[03:58] <redguy|work> visik7: http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9
[03:59] <redguy|work> visik7: see the topic in #kubuntu
[03:59] <visik7> ook
[03:59] <visik7> thanks
[04:00] <gunfus> redguy|work, will it change my init to 5
[04:00] <gunfus> redguy|work, after downlading everything
[04:00] <redguy|work> gunfus: hrm, the best bet would be a reboot
[04:00] <oddflux> I'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?
[04:00] <thoeger> s1gnAl: still there?
[04:01] <redguy|work> gunfus: you should be in runlevel 5 anyway
[04:01] <rev> can someone tell me how to setup sata disks? I do not get any block device
[04:02] <Kindred> sometimes my programs just close without warning or error, happens maybe two or three times a day (12 hrs use though.. :) is this just me?
[04:02] <Yeahnude> erUSUL what can i do with sudo -i then?
[04:02] <Joe444444444> hey guys, does anyone know how i can read a windows partition through ubuntu?
[04:02] <gunfus> okay
[04:03] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, you get a root shell
[04:03] <oddflux> Joe444444444 uh what?
[04:03] <oddflux> I'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?
[04:03] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowdrives
[04:03] <thoeger> Joe444444444: you should be able to just mount it and read it I think...
[04:03] <Gaain> No one able to help with DNS issue then! :-(
[04:03] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowsdrives
[04:03] <erUSUL> rev, what controler and disk?
[04:04] <thoeger> Kindred: No it's not just you....
[04:04] <oddflux> ubotu,tell oddflux about proxyservers
[04:04] <rev> erUSUL: one maxtor disk and SiI 3112
[04:04] <oddflux> ubotu,tell oddflux about proxy servers
[04:04] <Joe444444444> ok, im running 5.10 64 bit, but it isnt automatically set , like it tells me i dont have premission or something
[04:04] <oddflux> grr.'
[04:05] <erUSUL> rev, do not you get /dev/sda block device?
[04:05] <Joe444444444> and ubuntu can read ntfs?
[04:05] <Kindred> thoeger, yeah, hmm.. oh well.
[04:05] <redguy|work> !tell Joe444444444 about ntfs
[04:05] <rev> erUSUL: yup, not device ...but i've got /dev/dm/0 1 and 2... but I dont know what that is
[04:06] <mjr> read sure, write no
[04:06] <Joe4> ty, and fat 32?
[04:06] <rob_p> oddflux:  What purpose do you have in mind for running a proxy server?
[04:06] <erUSUL> rev, this are block devices handled with lvm. i do not use lvm so i do not know...
[04:06] <rev> erUSUL: me neither, but they are there :)
[04:07] <oddflux> rob_p, does that matter? is it in someway relevant?
[04:07] <visik7> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings is enough to get kubuntu on ubuntu ?
[04:08] <rob_p> oddflux:  Yes.  Depending on what you are trying to accomplish will determine what advice one offers you...
[04:08] <rev> erUSUL: sata_sil and libata are loaded http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376
[04:08] <[nige] > fnite all
[04:08] <[nige] > gnite rather
[04:09] <rob_p> oddflux:  For instance, if you're looking for an anonymizing proxy, privoxy is good.  If you need a full-blown caching proxy to serve multiple clients, you might want to use squid... stuff like that.
[04:09] <oddflux> i see, proxys are used for anonmity and this is for aasmall network
[04:10] <erUSUL> rev, use /dev/dm/* if /dev/sd* are not aviable
[04:10] <guillaume> hey guys
[04:10] <oddflux> forgive me.. BitchX sucks.
[04:10] <rob_p> oddflux:  Is caching important to you?
[04:10] <oddflux> fbsd.
[04:10] <oddflux> brb
[04:10] <guillaume> gotta prob wit firefox 1.5
[04:10] <oddflux> yeah, i'll get squid..
[04:10] <guillaume> doesn't launch
[04:11] <Epsilon> I need some help!
[04:11] <rev> erUSUL: I get 3 devices in /dev/dm ...that disk is unformatted...which one should I use? and why do I not get /dev/sd* ?
[04:11] <greenpenguin13> Epsilon: this is the right place
[04:11] <rob_p> oddflux:  For squid, the trickiest part is setting up the ACL(s).  Other than that, it comes up running pretty easily.
[04:12] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[04:12] <Epsilon> Yes I know
[04:12] <oddflux> There is documentation on it isnt there
[04:12] <Epsilon> My mp3 player is wierd
[04:12] <Epsilon> I used to have Windows
[04:12] <Epsilon> and I put music on
[04:12] <Epsilon> now when I plug it into linux
[04:12] <Epsilon> the music doesn't show up
[04:12] <erUSUL> rev, i do not know :(. You should get the /dev/sd* devices. do you see something in the dmesg?
[04:13] <rob_p> oddflux:  Yes.  Google will turn up numerous how-to type docs.  However, the config file for squid is documented quit will (maybe too well) :-)
[04:13] <erUSUL> Epsilon, creative?
[04:13] <rev> erUSUL: only these lines http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376
[04:13] <rob_p> oddflux:  Man, I can't type today!
[04:13] <Epsilon> no
[04:13] <Epsilon> SanDisc
[04:13] <foxiness> is there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch type
[04:14] <Epsilon> SanDisk*
[04:14] <oddflux> There is documentation on it isnt the:)
[04:14] <oddflux> uh
[04:14] <oddflux> i hate bitchx
[04:14] <oddflux> i can't type ether
[04:14] <thoeger> can't type ether... :-D
[04:14] <redguy|work> rev: you sure you got everything connected ?
[04:14] <thoeger> Any powerpc users in here? ibook...
[04:15] <chieftain> hi guys ... is it just me and my computer or did the extra repository gone walk about and dissapear??
[04:15] <jdier> Epsilon - are you browsing with a graphical browser or from the command line?  If command line, make sure you are doing an ls -a
[04:15] <rev> redguy|work: controller bios reports the drive correctly
[04:15] <erUSUL> rev, i do not have sata myself so i can not know for sure. do you have any /dev/scsi0 or something?
[04:15] <Gaain> k, got Ubuntu browsing now. Do I need to worry about firewalls, and stuff like adaware etc? Basic stuff but im learning
[04:15] <Epsilon> Graphical browser.
[04:15] <jdier> Epsilen, and if you are using a graphical, make sure you have show hidden files checked.
[04:15] <Epsilon> Yup
[04:15] <Epsilon> I do
[04:15] <Epsilon> and it shows
[04:15] <rev> erUSUL: nope nothing beside that dm thingy
[04:15] <Epsilon> .Trash-henry folder
[04:15] <rob_p> oddflux:  Here's one of many that turned up with a simple search:  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm
[04:15] <Epsilon> and in there
[04:15] <space> windows partitions are not accessible?
[04:15] <Epsilon> is a Media Folder
[04:15] <thoeger> Gaain: what exactly do you thinkof?
[04:16] <Epsilon> where my music used to be.
[04:16] <Gaain> ???
[04:16] <rev> erUSUL: and I cannot unload dm_mod ...it's in use
[04:16] <Epsilon> but nothing is in t here
[04:16] <oddflux> thanks.
[04:16] <oddflux> there are quite a few vulns....
[04:16] <thoeger> Gaain: you asked about adaware and firewalls and so, but I didn't really get what you mean....
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gaain, use firestarter if you feel you need a firewall
[04:16] <jdier> Epsilon - have you tried using a terminal and looking via ls -la or ls -a?
[04:17] <Gaain> Ive read that as Ubuntu has no services (in a windows way) that you do not need to woory about such things
[04:17] <oddflux> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm
[04:17] <Epsilon> No, I am very new to Linux, got it yesterday so I have no idea how to work anything.
[04:17] <thoeger> Gaain: True as for adware/spyware
[04:17] <erUSUL> rev, i do not know. sata support in linux is a little bit beta http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[04:17] <ubuntu> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[04:17] <Epsilon> Can one of you PM me and explain how to use termnal to look at my music?
[04:17] <chieftain> is backport and universe repository working for u guys...??
[04:17] <oddflux> bitchx sucks balls.
[04:18] <binarydigit> Epsilon: google basic unix commands
[04:18] <jared2> am I crazy or is nis no longer in the repositories?
[04:19] <chieftain> backport and universe repository is not working for me .. is it working for you?
[04:19] <foxiness> is there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch typing ? i see one with kde interface and one on CLI is there one for gnome ?
[04:19] <oddflux> binarydigit, have we met?
[04:19] <rev> erUSUL: I think dm_mod is resposible for this but I dont know how to unload it... well thanks so far :)
[04:19] <binarydigit> oddflux: not that i'm aware of
[04:19] <anir> ./join #ubuntu
[04:19] <erUSUL> rev, np
[04:19] <jared2> chieftain:no
[04:19] <thoeger> Is there a way to tweak the frames around picture previews on my gnome desktop?
[04:19] <chieftain> oh ok .. so it's not me
[04:20] <chieftain> any reason why it's not working
[04:20] <chieftain> do we have to look for different repository?
[04:20] <oddflux> you got o oftc binarydigit?
[04:20] <binarydigit> huh
[04:20] <Gaain> Thanks ill look for firestarter and maybe google for antivirus stuff. This may be unecessary but coming from windows you cant help but worry. Im also looking for CAD stuff and dont mind buying it if any one can point me towards a good piece of software. Thank youall
[04:20] <oddflux> yes, I'm sure we've met.
[04:21] <oddflux> I have an acct on your site.
[04:21] <binarydigit> oftc?
[04:21] <binarydigit> wtf
[04:21] <oddflux> do you go to oftc?
[04:21] <binarydigit> i dont know what that means
[04:21] <oddflux> irc.oftc.org
[04:21] <binarydigit> no
[04:21] <mahangu_> Gaain, you can have it run services (called jobs)
[04:21] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell Gaain about CLI
[04:21] <oddflux> linuxcult..
[04:21] <oddflux> ugh nevermind
[04:22] <binarydigit> oddflux: like i said, we havent met
[04:22] <thoeger> Gaain: the only reason to worry about virus is if you accidentally pass them on to your windows friends
[04:22] <jared2> Gaain: check out System>Help>Ubuntu Starter Guide>Networking> AntiVirus
[04:22] <thoeger> Gaain: well not the only one but...
[04:22] <Gaain> thoeger<< That sound good
[04:23] <oddflux> binarydigit yes... my apologies.
[04:23] <Gaain> Thanks all im learning quickly
[04:23] <jdier> Epsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/  This is a good starting point.  Basically you need to go to the ubuntu menu -> accessories -> then open terminal.  Everything is text from here on out.  You will use commands like cd to change directories and ls to list the directories.  the website I pasted is a good help for getting started.  I am also brand new to linux.  If you want it to all work you are going to have to find some si
[04:23] <jdier> tes were people have posted info and idea on how to do stuff.  forums like these often times assume that you have search places like www.linuxquestions.org to find out if you have a machine/software problem, or if it is just that you do not know how linux works.
[04:23] <thoeger> Gaain: one of the main advantages of linux (Or OS X)...
[04:23] <jared2> Gaain: I just discovered that Starter Guide, It's great.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Gaain: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus#virus
[04:24] <Epsilon> jdier do you have MSN Messenger?
[04:24] <oddflux> Hm.... LinuxLuser still come around
[04:24] <oddflux> or arbshct
[04:25] <thoeger> Epsilon: You better sign u for Jabber soon and never admit using a Microsoft product again ;-)
[04:25] <Gaain> Right im off to read up on some of the basic. Again thank you all
[04:25] <oddflux> How abou tPUtz
[04:25] <thoeger> Gaain: Have fun!
[04:25] <Gaain> Luckily its snowing and ive got nothing better to do
[04:25] <jdier> jdierrandcom is my yahoo id
[04:25] <oddflux> putz
[04:25] <thoeger> Its snowing and I've got a lot better to do but still I'm here...
[04:26] <veriz> anyone know what could be wrong? im in mysql-5.0.16 folder and typing make -> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[04:26] <jdier> epsilon - and jdierrandcom works in gaim.
[04:26] <Epsilon> thoeger why?
[04:26] <sloncho> cheers all. I have installed thin server install of 5.10. Now I want to install and run X server, no gnome, no kde. Just X for one app I need. Which packages I need to install, and how to invoke the "installation" mode so Ubunto helps me to config the X? When I installed full gnome system, I saw in the package list (in synaptic) package named x-server-minimal, which description was that this...
[04:26] <sloncho> ...is the real minimum to run X (which I need). But I can not find this package now through apt-get.
[04:26] <thoeger> Epsilon: Just joking...
[04:26] <jared2> Gaain: where are you
[04:26] <binarydigit> veriz: run ./configure
[04:26] <veriz> i did
[04:26] <thoeger> Epsilon: Microsoft isn't exactly popular among Linux geeks
[04:27] <binarydigit> did it complete succesfully
[04:27] <Gaain> south east UK
[04:27] <binarydigit> without any errors
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: but still cant do make
[04:27] <Epsilon> how dO i go back in terminal?
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: any other ideas?
[04:27] <Gaain> We panic at the first sign of snow
[04:27] <binarydigit> yea, did it complete successfully
[04:27] <thoeger> Epsilon: Its still my main protocol though - only use Jabber to speak to other linux geeks
[04:27] <mahangu_> sloncho, tried apt-cache search?
[04:27] <binarydigit> cause i bet it didnt
[04:27] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain - am in the south east too, not a sign of snow here
[04:27] <thoeger> Gaain: Denmark. We don't panic, but the trains stop instantly....
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found
[04:27] <sloncho> mahangu: I did. apt-get search min - no joy
[04:28] <jdier> Epsilon - thoeger is saying that you should get an IM login that is not tied to microsoft.  Yahoo has a great free one and it works well with gaim which is a linux IM program
[04:28] <sloncho> apt-cache ...
[04:28] <binarydigit> veriz: ok so you need that library before you can continue, search for it in synaptic
[04:28] <rod> how to install ubuntu-desktop except for one specific package?
[04:28] <oddflux> rob_p?
[04:28] <veriz> binarydigit: i cant :S im on console only
[04:28] <jdier> Epsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/#toc6
[04:28] <Gaain> Lappy , each of the country in Kent
[04:28] <Gaain> edge even
[04:28] <thoeger> Jdier & Epsilon : Thanx - sorry
[04:28] <binarydigit> veriz: apt-cache search
[04:28] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain East Sussex
[04:29] <Gaain> Raining though i bet down there
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> yup
[04:29] <Gaain> Eastbourne way
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> closer to Brighton
[04:29] <chieftain> binary:  backport / universe repository's not working .....    any other one that i can add to my list?
[04:29] <Gaain> Hopefully youll get it later, its pretty cool
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> best thing I did all week was install this distro
[04:29] <kanchana> automatix sucks
[04:30] <kanchana> i tried using it..
[04:30] <kanchana> it installed everything w/o a single error
[04:30] <thoeger> Kancha - anything special or just a statement? :)
[04:30] <rob_p> oddflux:  Sorry... I stepped away for a minute...
[04:30] <Stew_Lappy> I used automatix, worked great for me.
[04:30] <kanchana> now my system is up and running
[04:30] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[04:30] <Gaain> Good xmas then, ive had it for a few weeks but been struggeling to get in on the web, Have finally managed it one I get to grips im  gonna put it on all my machines and bin Micro$oft
[04:30] <oddflux> tis cool... just checkin gif you're still around
[04:31] <kanchana> thoeger.. the maker of automatix shd be knighted for his work and u shd be banned for life from this forum
[04:31] <jared2> Gaain: New York, it's unusual that we don't have snow.
[04:31] <Seveas> automatix should NOT be used, it's crap
[04:31] <Seveas> !automatic
[04:31] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:31] <Seveas> !automatix
[04:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:31] <kanchana> seveas.. u are whats crap..
[04:31] <Remmy> Perhaps a silly question, but where can I find the exact .config for one of the kubuntu supplied kernels?
[04:31] <thoeger> kanchana: ????
[04:31] <Epsilon> I have last question.
[04:31] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain thinking the same, I just grabbed the 64bit live cd to test out my main pc.
[04:31] <veriz> binarydigit: still cant find :S maybe you can help me a bit?
[04:31] <jared2> Stew_Lappy: I live in Brighton -- Brighton Beach, Brooklyn   ;)
[04:31] <Epsilon> I am in a folder
[04:32] <Epsilon> and i said
[04:32] <Epsilon> cd Sansa m250
[04:32] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[04:32] <Epsilon> and it said that it wasn't a directory
[04:32] <Epsilon> how do
[04:32] <Epsilon> I cd into the player
[04:32] <Gaain> Yeah I like the fact that the boot cd's including knoppix (soz) appear to ride rough over all Micro$oft security
[04:32] <jared2> Has anyone used NIS on ubuntu?
[04:32] <Stew_Lappy> jared2 hope you are having better weather
[04:32] <thoeger> |Lestat|: sorry...
[04:32] <Gaain> And they generally pick up networks straight away
[04:33] <jdier> Epsilon - you will have to do a cd /
[04:33] <binarydigit> veriz: check the README for the requirements
[04:33] <binarydigit> and install them
[04:33] <Stew_Lappy> this is the first distro that I haven't had to leave to do something in windows with
[04:33] <jdier> Epislon - then a cd /mnt
[04:33] <oddflux> Stew_Lappy  nice
[04:33] <jared2> Gaain: That's because Micro$oft doesn't have security -- Contradiction in terms :)
[04:34] <visik7> why in gnome-terminal ctrl+c doesn't work properly ?
[04:34] <binarydigit> define proper
[04:34] <thoeger> visik7: what do you mean by not properly?
[04:34] <jdier> Epsilon then do an ls to see if your player is there.  when the player is plugged in it will be recognized as a mounted device which means you will find it under /mnt/*something*
[04:34] <visik7> thoeger: when I ping something and then I press ctrl+c doesn't stop
[04:34] <jared2> visik7: It cancels a command that's running, not copy. just different, not broken.
[04:34] <|Lestat|> thoeger: for? :P
[04:34] <jared2> visik7: try right-click
[04:35] <oddflux> ctrl+x
[04:35] <jared2> visik7: That gets me all the time too.
[04:35] <Gaain> Right I must go nice chatting, speak again Gaai
[04:35] <Happuf> Hey can someone tell me how to mount NTFS partition in ubuntu breezy?
[04:35] <thoeger> |Lestat|: For not knowing how to disable your kernel modules.....
[04:35] <Happuf> It didnt auto mount for some reason.
[04:35] <space> I cant mount it either.
[04:35] <visik7> jared2: I want to cancel a program that's running
[04:35] <visik7> jared2: but it copy instead
[04:36] <visik7> I think
[04:36] <jared2> visik7: which terminal prog are you using?
[04:36] <visik7> I don't want to copy btw
[04:36] <thoeger> visik7: you're not holding shift?
[04:36] <space> ah I got it.
[04:36] <space> you have to go into drive manager.
[04:36] <space> Disk manager I mean.
[04:37] <ubuntu> hey, when installing, what exactly does the "linux archive-copier/copy=false" option do?  does it still install everything?
[04:38] <thoeger> Nah.... Bye....
[04:39] <mevvis> http://www.arh.ru/~alexhot/urb/8.htm
[04:40] <rev> erUSUL: I've found the problem... http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Dec/1935.html
[04:40] <visik7> jared2: ping
[04:41] <Hericus> Ladies.
[04:41] <Hericus> Seveas..
[04:41] <Joe4> why cant i run .exe files from  a cd?
[04:42] <Hericus> Joe4, ?
[04:42] <space> lol
[04:42] <Seveas> Joe4, because exe files are for windows
[04:42] <sloncho> if someone have missed or a newcommer can answer: what minimal set of packages I have to install over minimal server instalation in order to have Xserver configured and running. nothing fancy, just X.
[04:42] <Hericus> Joe4, with software such as cedega and wine you may be able to.
[04:43] <Joe4> man, setting all this stuff up for my everything onboard mobo is a pin
[04:43] <Joe4> pain*
[04:43] <Seveas> sloncho, x-windows-system-core
[04:43] <Joe4> i really wich ppl would release more linux drivers
[04:43] <Hericus> Not all of course..
[04:43] <cratel1> how do I set up Breezy so the monitor goes into a power save mode after a certain number of minutes of inactivity? It's not in "screensaver."
[04:43] <Seveas> sloncho, and ubuntu-base is recommended
[04:43] <pashaw> sloncho,   id recommend    server install  then susod apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <Hericus> Seveas, how've you been?
[04:44] <pashaw> sloncho,    xubuntu  is what im using now  its small and rather nice
[04:44] <rod> how to install a meta-package except for one package which is included in that meta package?
[04:44] <Kindred> cratel1, I think it is in the advanced tab in there
[04:44] <Seveas> rod, install all other packages :)
[04:44] <sloncho> Seveas: just dis does not start X. complains for missing drivers, etc.
[04:44] <pjssilva> My desktop becomes very unresposive when I am ripping a DVD or a CD. Is this expected?
[04:44] <Joe4> I have to go through this dsl box, and i have to use the drivers for it, and their all exe
[04:44] <Seveas> sloncho, xorg-driver-*
[04:44] <cratel1> Kindred: not that I can find...
[04:44] <Seveas> find what you need...
[04:44] <pjssilva> rod: install the metapackage and then uninstall the un-wanted package.
[04:45] <sloncho> pashaw: do I have to add additional repository for this? or it is part of the normall install?
[04:45] <flogiston> Where do i install xfce themes?
[04:45] <rod> Seveas, I tried to copy the whole list with packages, exclude that one and then past it back.... But the pasting back - i can't get it in 1 single line, they contain more lines so pasting is not possible
[04:45] <Kindred> cratel1, you have display modes & advanced right?
[04:45] <jono> hi all
[04:45] <sloncho> pashaw: it does not load OO, etc., right?
[04:45] <Seveas> rod, what is the metapackage?
[04:45] <rod> pjssilva, well, that one package won't install (md5 sum error) and that halts the rest of the installation
[04:45] <pashaw> sloncho,   server install  is cd    then xubuntu   uses cd also  but might grab some stuff off  normal repos
[04:46] <rod> the meta package is ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <rod> quite a big one i can say
[04:46] <sloncho> Seveas: thanks, I'll try
[04:46] <jono> has a recent update to breezy made /dev/dsp go away?
[04:46] <Seveas> and which package don't you want?
[04:46] <cratel1> Kindred: I don't think I do. Where is display modes?
[04:46] <sloncho> pashaw: thanks.
[04:46] <Kindred> cratel1, at the top of the screensaver preferences dialog
[04:46] <pjssilva> rod: Try deleting it in /var/cache/apt/archives and download it again.
[04:46] <cratel1> Kindred: it's missing on mine. Is this a separate package that I am missing?
[04:46] <pashaw> sloncho,   not sure   as i changed to xubuntu after gnome made this lappy  crawl
[04:46] <rod> Seveas, I dont want openoffice2-core because after the download that packages gives me a md5 download error  and that halts the installation of the rest of the system
[04:47] <Seveas> rod, that will disable all of openoffice...
[04:47] <rod> Seveas, thats fine
[04:47] <jono> my /dev/dsp has disappeared but when I play something with mplayer it still seems to emit sound - what is wrong?
[04:47] <Seveas> rod, delete the openoffice.org-core .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:47] <Seveas> and retry installing ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <sloncho> pashaw: I need something really thin, as I just want to run MythTV on it. Actually maybe I'll end-up to run it over framebuffer w/o any X. But still think that with X it'll be better.
[04:48] <rod> Seveas, ok they are deleted and then?
[04:48] <pashaw> sloncho,   try xubuntu   if you dont like it  start over
[04:48] <Seveas> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <pjssilva> rod, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <rod> pjssilva, that will download openoffice again and give me that error also again
[04:49] <sloncho> pashaw: ok, I'll  give it a try when I get home
[04:49] <pashaw> sloncho,   this is linux  your not paying to try diff versions like windows :P
[04:49] <rod> pjssilva, i did a apt clean and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop 20 minutes ago
[04:49] <sloncho> :))))
[04:49] <sloncho> yeah, this is 4-th distro to try for MythTV, but looks like it'll fit best :)
[04:50] <jdier> Epsilon - once you get a yahoo or jabber IM login, enter me into your gaim contact list and feel free to ask me questions off line.  I am a newbie too, but when available and able, I am happy to help.
[04:50] <Remmy> jono: All I can say is that mine seemsto have disappeared overnight too
[04:50] <jono> Remmy, oh really?
[04:50] <pjssilva> rod, but the file for openoffice.org-core was corrupted during download. You need to download it again.
[04:50] <flogiston> Where do i extract the xfce themes to use them?
[04:50] <jono> anyone else lose /dev/dsp too?
[04:50] <Kindred> cratel1, http://brandify.com/temp/advanced.jpg - you are missing this?
[04:50] <nix4me> is there an iso of dapper that is after flight 2?  like a nightly build that can be installed?
[04:51] <Remmy> jono: Yes... but I've been messing too much with other things to attribute it to anything in specific, but I didn't do anything consciously to make it go away
[04:51] <rod> pjssilva, well i downloaded it over 10 times already
[04:51] <jono> Remmy, yeah, neither did I
[04:51] <rod> im using Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB] 
[04:51] <pjssilva> rod, what repository are you using?
[04:51] <rod> pjssilva, i say you thinking lol
[04:51] <rod> *saw
[04:52] <rod> pjssilva, this is not the specific package giving the error (because that is the core package) but you get the idea
[04:52] <pjssilva> rod, Try the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:52] <cratel1> Kindred: yes. Mine looks completely different. I don't have that "advanced" tab. And I only have 1 screensaver. I also just noticed that ubuntu-desktop is not installed on my system. Perhaps this is part of the problem...
[04:52] <rod> pjssilva, alright, does it go like this then? Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB] 
[04:52] <rod> the link then i mean...
[04:53] <Kindred> cratel1, hm..
[04:53] <pjssilva> rod, I am not sure what you mean by "link".
[04:53] <cratel1> Kindred: I think I'll install ubuntu-desktop, which includes the xscreensaver, and see if this solves the problem...
[04:54] <rod> pjssilva, nevermind... if apt-get update gives me errors i know ^^
[04:54] <pjssilva> rod, The line in /etc/apt/sources.list should be something like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[04:55] <rod> pjssilva, yeah i had that
[04:55] <rod> pjssilva, i need to re-login because i get an error that says :) Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un
[04:55] <pjssilva> rod, Good luck.
[04:55] <rod> thanks, ill be right back
[04:55] <jared2> How do I type in the Location Bar like System>Help>Starter Guide>Tips&Tricks> #9 says?
[04:56] <Sunn_T> I have been having trouble with my Ubuntu install. I've made 5 copies of the .ISO file.
[04:56] <jared2> can anyone else do that?
[04:56] <pashaw> jared2,    click those menus
[04:56] <pashaw> jared2,   opps your gunna make me that
[04:56] <Sunn_T> When I check the integrity of the CD it says that a file has a checksum error.
[04:57] <jared2> pashaw: ??? did you try it?
[04:57] <trappist> Sunn_T: that's a failed test
[04:57] <Kindred> jared2, Ctrl+L
[04:57] <trappist> Sunn_T: how are you burning it?
[04:57] <Sunn_T> Right. How is it that in 4 out of the 5 CDs that I've made that the same file is corrupted?
[04:58] <jared2> Kindred: Ohhhhhh! They should have mentioned that!
[04:58] <gunfus> how can I modify teh max resolution that gnome uses..?
[04:58] <jared2> Kindred:Thanks.
[04:58] <Kindred> jared2, agreed. :)
[04:58] <teprrr> hmm, looks like X is broken in dapper atm? am I right?
[04:58] <trappist> Sunn_T: could be a hardware problem, but it could also have something to do with the way you're burning
[04:58] <gunfus> The max resolution that I can select is 1024 by 724
[04:58] <gunfus> I want more
[04:58] <gunfus> but is not shown
[04:58] <Sunn_T> I've burned it with NTI CD-Maker Gold, Alcohol 120, and Nero 6.6 .
[04:58] <trappist> Sunn_T: make sure you burn with in dao mode
[04:59] <Seveas> Sunn_T, is the iso ok? Did you burn at low speed?
[04:59] <Sunn_T> I did notice that DAO/TAO was selected... Would DAO alone work better?
[04:59] <jared2> Kindred: can I make it stick that way? It keeps going back.
[04:59] <Sunn_T> I burned at 8x. I think that's the lowest it goes.
[04:59] <trappist> Sunn_T: dao=disc at once and tao=track at once.  you definitely want dao.
[04:59] <Ungy> OK I can't figure this out I mounted a folder from my server via Nautolis it is my music directory now I am tryin gto point Rythm Box at it but I can;t find it any ideas?
[05:00] <Kindred> jared2, not sure sorry (not a fan of nautilus in general..)
[05:00] <Seveas> Ungy, nautilus doesn't mount anuthing...
[05:00] <mahangu_> Seveas, he means rightclick+ mount i think
[05:00] <misteriosa> hello
[05:01] <misteriosa> i think
[05:01] <Ungy> Seveas, what does connect to Server from Nautilus do then?
[05:01] <misteriosa> ......
[05:02] <rod> hehe still the md5 sum mismatch on openoffice-core :/
[05:02] <rod> even with the new mirror
[05:03] <rod> oh oops, still old mirror doh
[05:03] <rod> sec
[05:03] <Seveas> Ungy, connect via gnome vfs
[05:03] <Sunn_T> crx100e/x2
[05:04] <gunfus> how can I modify teh max resolution that gnome uses..?
[05:04] <gunfus> The max resolution that I can select is 1024 by 724
[05:04] <trappist> gunfus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <Ungy> Seveas, well I have the mounted directory sitting on my Desktop I have no idea how to access it
[05:04] <lurah> happy new year and stay alive. =) im off for few days
[05:05] <Kindred> jared2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77346 - seems easy enough if you want to do it
[05:05] <trappist> gunfus: it's xorg's resolution, not gnome's.  gnome just runs on top of xorg
[05:05] <Ungy> Seveas, it is also under my places menu
[05:05] <gunfus> right
[05:05] <Seveas> Ungy, that is *NOT* mounted
[05:05] <Remmy> Perhaps a silly question, but where can I find the exact .config for one of the kubuntu supplied kernels?
[05:05] <Seveas> only applications that understand gnome-vfs can access it
[05:06] <Seveas> Remmy, /boot/.config-$(uname- -r)
[05:06] <Ungy> Seveas, so I cannot connect to this directory then great
[05:07] <Ungy> is there any music players that understand gnome-vfs?
[05:07] <gunfus> 3
[05:07] <Remmy> Seveas: Ok, so if I use that in combination with the kernel source to compile me a new kernel
[05:07] <Remmy> it ought to be identical?
[05:07] <rod> Seveas, can you look up which guy was trying to help me with my meta package problem just before i quited xchat? I cant remember the name of the guy hehe
[05:08] <ArXoniK> i have a noob question, why is everything in ubuntu repositories outdated? OOo, Firefox ...
[05:08] <fanopnaic> Remmy: you might lack some patches.
[05:08] <Ungy> ArXoniK, welcome to linucx either switch to Debian Sid and deal with the bugs or what til the next realease shoudl be in about 3 months
[05:08] <mahangu_> Ungy, that is bad advice
[05:09] <ArXoniK> that is a lovely advice
[05:09] <Ungy> ArXoniK, or you could compile the shit yourself
[05:09] <Remmy> As I've been having bad luck with it
[05:09] <toydi> hi, i just installed ubuntu and stuck with 640x480 resolution. How to resolve it?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> ArXoniK, there is a repo for OOo and as for firefox1.5 it will be added a while from now
[05:09] <mahangu_> toydi, paste the output of your xorg.conf
[05:09] <ArXoniK> thank you for your advice Ungy, you are perfect help
[05:09] <mahangu_> ArXoniK, do you want help? i have some compiled debs for gaim 2 beta etc
[05:10] <mahangu_> Ungy, if you can't be helpful, don't help
[05:10] <Enlil_Ishtar> hello
[05:10] <ArXoniK> thank u guys (apart from Ungy) i just wondered whether i missed something
[05:10] <flogiston> Where do i install xfce themes?
[05:10] <flogiston> I've been looking att xfce.org and other pages. I just can't find it...
[05:10] <mahangu_> flogiston, apt-get install xfce4-themes
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ArXoniK, breezy was done in devel when these other packages came out as i said if you look at !easysource you will see a repo for OOo2
[05:11] <Enlil_Ishtar> I can't play *.wmv videos :s VLC, MPlayer and Totem just play sound, RealPlayer can't play it and xine play it sound and video but with a distorted :s
[05:11] <rod> how can i see which device my root filesystem is on? Rightclicking ' Filesystem ' doesnt reveal if it's for example dev/hda1
[05:11] <flogiston> Yeas i know that. But i found this theme on freash meat or something.
[05:11] <gnomefreak> flogiston, did you try xfce-look.org?
[05:11] <ArXoniK> thanks again :) i will sort it out
[05:11] <Remmy> fanopnaic: Do you know if the kernel source with all patches applied is available somewhere?
[05:11] <rod> Enlil_Ishtar, what version of wmv is it?
[05:11] <|Lestat|> is anyone here running wireless networks?
[05:11] <flogiston> gnomefreak: no i'll do that right away.
[05:11] <Enlil_Ishtar> rod> dunno. How do I see that?
[05:12] <pashaw> rod,    df -h
[05:12] <rod> Enlil_Ishtar, rightclick and properties
[05:12] <rod> pashaw, ?
[05:12] <rod> pashaw, was that for me? :)
[05:12] <fanopnaic> Remmy:  linux-source-2.6.12 seems to contain all patches.
[05:12] <pashaw> rod,   yes your question above
[05:12] <gnomefreak> flogiston, hope that helps
[05:12] <thoreauputic> bah sorry
[05:12] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[05:12] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:13] <thoreauputic> ag=ha
[05:13] <Enlil_Ishtar> rod> version 8
[05:13] <rod> Allright, thanks pashaw  :)
[05:13] <Remmy> Thanks fanopnaic :)
[05:13] <rod> Enlil_Ishtar, alright then you should be able to play everything incl video
[05:13] <fanopnaic> you're welcome.
[05:13] <rod> Enlil_Ishtar, What i do is install totem-xine first
[05:13] <rod> The go to the mplayer website and download there a codec pack
[05:13] <toydi> mahangu, pasted done.
[05:13] <rod> and if you open totem, you can go from there to a codec folder
[05:14] <rod> just extract the codecs which you downloaded from the mplayer website into that folder
[05:14] <rod> and totem-xine will use them
[05:14] <rod> wmv included
[05:14] <Enlil_Ishtar> okay
[05:14] <Enlil_Ishtar> win32 codecs I suppose?
[05:14] <rod> it's also in the ubuntu faq if you want to re-read it Enlil_Ishtar
[05:14] <pashaw> !tell Enlil_Ishtar about restrictedformats
[05:14] <rod> that one pashaw  :)
[05:14] <Enlil_Ishtar> :) thanks
[05:15] <rod> bbl, ttfn
[05:16] <eledu> hi
[05:16] <pashaw> hit
[05:16] <pashaw> hit!
[05:17] <blunted> !fstab
[05:17] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:17] <Iga> hi everybody
[05:18] <rodrigo> hola
[05:18] <Kindred> gday.
[05:18] <Iga> I'm a young french ubuntu-newbie (so apologize my english's quality), could someone help me ?
[05:18] <rodrigo> alguna persona habla espaol
[05:18] <vrln> Iga: just ask your questions here, if someone knows, they'll answer :)
[05:18] <rodrigo> para que me ayude
[05:18] <vrln> no need to ask if you can ask
[05:18] <jdier> [Lestat]   I am running a wireless network
[05:18] <rodrigo> a resolver algunos problema s
[05:19] <thoreauputic> !es
[05:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:19] <pashaw> Iga,   if we cant   you can go to
[05:19] <pashaw> !fr
[05:19] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:19] <rodrigo> gracias
[05:19] <chmod775> !firefox
[05:19] <Iga> ok ! : well, I've been using Hoary for 2-3 months
[05:19] <ubotu> somebody said firefox was a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[05:19] <chmod775> !firefox1.5
[05:19] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:19] <Iga> and I received the Breezy cds some days ago, so I would like to install it
[05:20] <jdier> |Lestat| I am running a wireless network
[05:20] <Iga> but, I already have a modem problem on Hoary
[05:20] <jocke1s> Hi all,
[05:20] <Iga> A friend who masters linux helped me, but I won't be able to see him until 2-3 weeks
[05:21] <pashaw> !tell Iga about breezy
[05:22] <Ungy> ubotu has facts wrong Firefox is now developed by Mozilla Coporation
[05:22] <ubotu> okay, Ungy
[05:22] <psusi> it allways was wasn't it?
[05:23] <kruemmel> hey
[05:23] <Iga> After installing Hoary, I had to install the modem's driver here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto?action=show
[05:23] <nicholas1520> i have a  question: i installed apache, php and such with the synaptic package manager and the directory for the apache interface is: /var/www/ now and that part belongs to root and obviously i can't write any data to there and i have no idea what password the root account uses or even how to login to it.
[05:23] <dabaR> heh
[05:23] <kruemmel> i got a question
[05:23] <kruemmel> sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:23] <kruemmel> sry
[05:23] <pashaw> Ungy,    it always has
[05:23] <kemik> !firefox
[05:23] <ubotu> firefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[05:23] <kruemmel> evrytime i restart, i have to do pppoeconf at first, to be able to use "pon dsl-provider"
[05:23] <dabaR> nicholas1520: use sudo. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:23] <fanopnaic> nicholas1520: either you use sudo, or you set a root passwd using "sudo passwd root"
[05:24] <dabaR> kruemmel: post your /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.
[05:24] <kruemmel> pastebin?
[05:24] <nicholas1520> i'll go with the second one
[05:24] <dabaR> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:24] <kruemmel> ok, i will do so
[05:24] <dabaR> nicholas1520: go with the link...and read the reasoning, before you do anything with your syste,.
[05:25] <dabaR> kruemmel: ok, you do so, and tell me when you had posted.
[05:25] <pashaw> nicholas1520,   use sudo    for amin tasks
[05:25] <Ungy> pashaw, since it's creation yes but that was recently
[05:25] <Juhaz> pashaw, psusi, mozilla foundation spun off mozilla corporation in august. but if four months is your definition of "always"...
[05:25] <pashaw> Ungy,   isnt that wahyt the FAQ reads
[05:25] <kruemmel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6377
[05:25] <psusi> ohh... I see... corp vs found
[05:26] <nicholas1520> pashaw, i need to chmod something
[05:26] <psusi> same thing ;)
[05:26] <nicholas1520> but sudo won't let me
[05:26] <pashaw> Juhaz,  you cant change the developed by    after the fact  :P
[05:26] <BxL> how do I install kde?
[05:26] <Ungy> psusi, not really completely seperate entities now
[05:26] <kruemmel> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <kruemmel> @bxl
[05:26] <BxL> thanks
[05:26] <kruemmel> np
[05:26] <psusi> on paper maybe
[05:27] <kruemmel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6377
[05:27] <Juhaz> not even on paper, since mozilla foundation owns mozilla corporation
[05:27] <Ungy> Juhaz, oh really?
[05:27] <psusi> that's my point... it's just a subsidiary
[05:27] <Iga> WIll the installation be similar with Breezy (I have a copy of the wiki I gave you the link above) ?
[05:27] <psusi> the only difference is in the legal filings
[05:28] <kruemmel> anyone got an ide
[05:28] <kruemmel> a of what to do
[05:28] <dabaR> kruemmel: let me type, I will tell you what to do.
[05:28] <kruemmel> ok
[05:28] <dabaR> kruemmel: I see this quite often. I found a solution to it right away(it was introduced in breezy) so I never wondered as to what it really means, and why it happens. But, I know the most likely solution, it will likely fix your issue. Remove all lik
[05:28] <kruemmel> thx
[05:28] <kruemmel> lik?
[05:29] <dabaR> a premature enter press...
[05:29] <kruemmel> what do you mean with lik?
[05:29] <Ungy> Juhaz, yeah I guess yrou right
[05:29] <pashaw> Iga,   ive never done that upgrade path     sorry
[05:29] <maximiano> hi all... please, anybody teach me how i change my screen resolution?
[05:30] <dabaR> !fixres
[05:30] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:30] <Juhaz> Ungy, the news item is still on the web pages. http://www.mozilla.org/reorganization/
[05:30] <mevvis> http://www.arh.ru/~alexhot/urb/9.htm
[05:30] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[05:30] <dabaR> win me
[05:30] <kruemmel> hey
[05:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:31] <kruemmel> can you tell me what lik means?
[05:31] <dabaR> kruemmel: disregard the part from "Remove..." on. Anyhow, I suggest you make your file look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6378 and then rerun pppoeconf, after which I would like you to post your interfaces file again, please.
[05:31] <dabaR> kruemmel: give me time, please...
[05:31] <kruemmel> ill do so
[05:31] <dabaR> Thanks.
[05:31] <Ungy> Juhaz, I read it on the http://www.mozilla.com/about/
[05:31] <maximiano> thanks
[05:33] <kemik> !java
[05:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:33] <kemik> !javadebs
[05:33] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:33] <kruemmel> i edited the file
[05:33] <kruemmel> shall i do a restart
[05:33] <kruemmel> or just run the pppoeconf now?
[05:34] <dabaR> kruemmel: not at all. just rerun the pppoeconf, ya, but only if your file is same as what is on that pastebin I made.
[05:34] <kruemmel> yes, its the same
[05:34] <kruemmel> now
[05:34] <nicholas1520> is there an alternetive way to edit a file thats in the root's control?
[05:34] <Dreamglider> can i mount any hd's when i use the ubuntu live cd ?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: use sudo gedit   (or your editor of choice)
[05:35] <giggsey> Right, I've upgraded to amaroK 1.3.7 and its still giving SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0
[05:35] <kemik> dabaR:  stop bugging me :P
[05:35] <kruemmel> it looks like this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6379
[05:36] <francares> hi... how can i install the libesd0 without apt removes ubuntu-desktop...?
[05:36] <nicholas1520> gedit:12863): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:36] <nicholas1520> this thing just doesn't like my guts.
[05:37] <SS2> somebody here that knows the glibc bug of OOo2?
[05:37] <Bin4ry> Hi everyone
[05:37] <davidwinter> are there any recommended guides for using ubuntu as an arcade machine?
[05:37] <davidwinter> recommended by folk here
[05:37] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: try gksudo gedit
[05:37] <Ungy> Does anyone know of a music player that understand gnome-vfs?
[05:37] <nicholas1520> k
[05:38] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: you aren't trying  to open it *as* root are you?
[05:38] <dabaR> kemik: nothing personal, it is good to learn about the culture.
[05:38] <Iga> pashaw > somebody else may have done it ?!
[05:38] <Bin4ry> How can i make all my NTFS partitions writable ? they always seem to mount read-only ? im using the livecd
[05:38] <kemik> dabaR:  i knwo.. i just keep forgetting ;)
[05:38] <dabaR> kruemmel: after a sudo pppoeconf?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: root can't use your user display - you need to use gksudo with *your* password
[05:38] <kruemmel> yes
[05:38] <Ungy> Bin4ry, you can't?
[05:38] <dabaR> kruemmel: almost impossible.
[05:38] <kruemmel> but it is so
[05:38] <nicholas1520> ooo
[05:39] <dabaR> kruemmel: oh, I missed one part.
[05:39] <psusi> Bin4ry: you can't... write support is not availible using the lniux ntfs driver
[05:39] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: think about it - X isn't running as root so it will not open for another user
[05:39] <Bin4ry> how can i go about that then ?
[05:39] <Bin4ry> :|
[05:39] <nicholas1520> hmm...
[05:40] <psusi> Bin4ry: you don't
[05:40] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: and of course runnig X as root is a *bad* move
[05:40] <Ungy> Bin4ry, you don't use FAT on your windows
[05:40] <Bin4ry> no
[05:40] <Ungy> Bin4ry, then you don;t write teo your windows direcotories
[05:41] <nicholas1520> well ya, all i want is some love! and to edit file in /etc/kde3/kdm/ or just even have prillileges to run chmod on a folder in / =/
[05:41] <Bin4ry> that sucks tho.
[05:41] <psusi> root can use any display it wants... root can not log in to X because X is not configured to be a secure terminal, and root can only login on secure terminals
[05:41] <pashaw> Bin4ry,   bad idea   you risk losing everything even if you found a way to force it to write
[05:41] <Ungy> Bin4ry, thank Microsoft for that one
[05:41] <Bin4ry> hehehe
[05:41] <thoreauputic> nicholas1520: if you are running kde, use kdesu kate  instead
[05:41] <psusi> Bin4ry: you can set up a shared partition that uses fat32, and both windows and linux can use that to transfer/share files
[05:42] <kemik> Bin4ry:  but remember that FAT32 is no good :(
[05:42] <dabaR> kruemmel: make it like it was before you ran pppoeconf, and then you can try rebooting, if you want. I am not sure what is wrong.
[05:42] <pashaw> psusi,   hes using liveCD and wants to write to ntfs
[05:42] <kemik> why is there no good way to mount ext3 partitions in Windows? :|
[05:42] <Ungy> Bin4ry, NTFS is great I love it one of the best things MS ever did however it sucks if you use Dual boot like me so I use a Server to hold everythign I need
[05:42] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:42] <kruemmel> ok i will do so
[05:42] <thoreauputic> kemik: ask Microsoft
[05:42] <kruemmel> but i shouldnt rerun pppoeconf after the restart?
[05:43] <kemik> thoreauputic:  ext3 is open, should be some 3rd party software available :)
[05:43] <nicholas1520> No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" you know its been telling me this since gnome to kde now lol and i have no idea waht sh is actaully
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kemik: there is a program to use ext2 from windows actually
[05:43] <thoreauputic> explore2fs or something?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> can't recall
[05:44] <Kindred> there are a few 3rd party programs to mount ext3, mount everything is another
[05:44] <thoeger> anybody using Mouseemu?
[05:44] <kruemmel> dabaR?
[05:45] <kemik> Kindred:  mount everything costs $$ :/ i want free stuff ;)
[05:45] <nicholas1520> ubotu Are you smoking crack?, nicholas1520
[05:45] <ubotu> nicholas1520: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:45] <nicholas1520> :o
[05:45] <nicholas1520> Yes!
[05:45] <kruemmel> dabaR: i will restart now
[05:45] <nicholas1520> i think i love this bot
[05:46] <thoeger> Nobody using mouseemu?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> thoeger: rather than running a survey, why not say what your problem is?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> !info mouseemu
[05:47] <ubotu> mouseemu: (Emulate mouse buttons and mouse wheel), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.15-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[05:47] <gnomefreak> someone uses it if the bot knows it :)
[05:48] <thoeger> thoreauputic: Wouldn't bother people with lotsa questions if nobody has a clue anyway. Hope that's okay for you
[05:48] <_TomB> does anyone know where I can get lib++dfb/
[05:48] <kruemmel> dabaR: THX man, it works
[05:48] <Draken> !root
[05:48] <ubotu> By default the root password is locked in Ubuntu. You should use sudo, which will ask for your own password. For more info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:48] <thoreauputic> thoeger: how can anyone help if you don't specify the problem?
[05:49] <thoeger> thoreauputic: If nobody in here has knowledge about Mouseemu, how should any details make a difference?
[05:49] <Draken> guys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thoeger about mouseemu
[05:50] <Draken> guys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils
[05:50] <thoeger> But anyway; I was just wondering if it was possible to tweak scroll speed and so on...
[05:50] <thoreauputic> thoeger: interesting logic - don't ask a question because you assume no-one can help - but do it your way by all means
[05:51] <pashaw> !tell Draken about nvidia
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tel Draken  about nvidia
[05:51] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Not a clue
[05:51] <pashaw> lol
[05:51] <thoeger> Read the man page, nothing there, just hope there might be  some possibilities
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ty i typoed it
[05:52] <gnomefreak> thoeger,  did you try googling for it?
[05:52] <thoeger> Yup
[05:52] <CountDown> Has anyone managed to change the login photo thumbnail?  I've tried both the "Login Photo" and "About Me" dialogues, but my login image is still the default.  I don't want to be a large, goateed, white man any more.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> thoeger, you will most likely find the info you need on the home page for mouseemu
[05:52] <Draken> im usiong kubuntu
[05:53] <thoeger> gnomefreak: there is no doc available afaik
[05:53] <Draken> not ubuntu
[05:53] <Draken> so its not same gui
[05:53] <thoeger> gnomefreak: alas, no
[05:54] <thoeger> gnomefreak: which surprised me somewhat too... But anyways, didn't want to make a big fuzz out of it, just thought it might be worth a try
[05:54] <Draken> guys, im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i keep on getting an error saying something is wrong with ID, and i must check if binutils
[05:54] <Draken> not ubuntu
[05:54] <Draken> im usiong kubuntu
[05:54] <ZondeR> hi all, I use Xchat for the first time, how can i get rid of all those "BxL has quit" and "michael has join" messages?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Draken, nvidia drivers will be same info on them but please feel free to use #kubuntu if you think their answer will be better
[05:55] <NoWhereToTurn> Need help with accessing admin based utils in Ubuntu
[05:55] <Draken> gnomefreak, its telling me to go to SETTINGS at top of screen
[05:55] <Draken> there is no such thing in th hgui
[05:55] <CountDown> NoWhereToTurn: what exactly is the problem?
[05:55] <Iga> ZondeR: I fear it might not be possible
[05:56] <NoWhereToTurn> root account has password but that password is not being accepted in say the Networking app
[05:56] <gnomefreak> Draken, than go to settings in the menu
[05:56] <Draken> ok
[05:56] <ZondeR> arg! thank you iga ...
[05:56] <toydi> hi, I just installed ubuntu, but resolution stuck in 640x480. Tried the wiki's HOWTO but still failed.
[05:56] <gnomefreak> same thing different place
[05:56] <thoreauputic> !tell NoWhereToTurn about root
[05:56] <CountDown> The root account password should be your own password.  Check to make sure Caps Lock is off.
[05:57] <hackeron> I'm getting an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 chipset motherboard (not by choice), can someone tell me what doesnt work out of box?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> thoeger, this site didnt help http://linux.com.hk/penguin/man/8/mouseemu.html
[05:58] <NoWhereToTurn> sudo doesnt work .. Networking login prompt indicates "wrong password"
[05:58] <SS2> re
[05:58] <psusi> no... there is no root password... sudo does not ask for root's password, it asks for yours
[05:58] <SS2> where kann I find soffice?
[05:58] <Seveas> NoWhereToTurn, sudo wants *your* password, read what ubotu said
[05:58] <SS2> supposed to be the starter script of OOo2
[05:58] <jono> jdub, ping
[05:58] <SS2> and need to edit it
[05:58] <skon> Anyone know of adware that affect linux at all? I've been running for Ubuntu for several weeks and sometimes FireFox just brings me to the most random pages without even clicking anything?
[05:59] <toydi> anyone free to help me up with my screen resolution?
[05:59] <CountDown> NoWhereToTurn: See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root for an explanation of sudo and root on Ubuntu.
[05:59] <NoWhereToTurn> Sorry.. that is confusing as heck especially when other distros use root and root password
[05:59] <space> k i cant find gstreamer0.8-mad in the packets , this normal ??
[05:59] <NoWhereToTurn> It worked
[05:59] <thoreauputic> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:59] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[06:00] <gnomefreak> skon,  im not aware of any
[06:00] <thoreauputic> space: you need the universe repo
[06:00] <skon> k
[06:00] <space> I need what ? lol
[06:00] <thoreauputic> !tell space about repos
[06:01] <thoreauputic> space: check the URL ubotu sent you
[06:01] <y_o_u> trying to install baghira on kubuntu 5.10 and where you download the file it says "Baghira is allready part of the Official Debian Archive, so you can just apt-get install it from Sid." what does that mean, in n00b speak?
[06:01] <space> thx.
[06:01] <ZondeR> iga: i found the solution! i am sure u are interested: Right-click on the tab you want to change. In the submenu of the channel name, there's a toggle-item "Show join/part messages", simply turn this off.
[06:01] <thoeger> gnomefreak: Thanx, but it told me only what I knew. Seems that's what I can hope for...
[06:01] <budluva> how is ati support in ubuntu? i was thinking of getting a new video card today, just wondering if i should stick with nvidia or go with ati
[06:01] <skon> y_o_u: then just do sudo apt-get baghira
[06:01] <haasteem> hi, is it possible to run the gnome screensavers in blackbox? if so, how?
[06:01] <Seveas> !info baghira
[06:01] <skon> y_o_u: then just do sudo apt-get install* baghira
[06:01] <gnomefreak> y_o_u, that means you can sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[06:02] <Seveas> !+info baghira
[06:02] <ubotu> Package 'baghira' does not exist.
[06:02] <existance> ls
[06:02] <thoreauputic> haakonn: yes, just run xscreensaver-demo
[06:02] <existance> eh.. oops :/
[06:02] <Seveas> it's not yet avilable in Ubuntu, grab the source from sid and compile it
[06:02] <nicholas1520> !info baghira
[06:02] <Seveas> !+info baghira daper
[06:02] <NoWhereToTurn> Got another question. If one is using a Ps/2 mouse but wants to switch to a serial mouse on com2 what util in KDE has to be run to change the mouse?
[06:02] <ubotu> Package 'baghira daper' does not exist.
[06:02] <Seveas> !+info baghira dapper
[06:02] <haasteem> thoreauputic: was that message for mr?
[06:02] <ubotu> Package 'baghira' does not exist.
[06:02] <haasteem> me?
[06:02] <nicholas1520> hmm
[06:02] <thoreauputic> haasteem: yes sorry - bad tab complete :)
[06:03] <y_o_u> i will try it now, thank you
[06:03] <haasteem> :) ok thanks
[06:03] <erUSUL> NoWhereToTurn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:03] <AIV> When creating a software raid do you have to have a md device for each partition such as swp, /, /root etc?
[06:03] <CountDown> Has anyone managed to change the login photo to something besides the default large, goateed, white man in a blue shirt?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> i have kwin-baghira it looks like theme for apple junkies
[06:04] <nicholas1520> somebody stop me from pming this bot lol
[06:04] <skon> CountDown: I haven't either lol
[06:04] <thoreauputic> haasteem: you can also add "xscreeensaver --nosplash " to your blackbox start script if you wish
[06:04] <Iga> zonder: done! than you very much, I began beeing fed up with that
[06:05] <nicholas1520> nicholas1520 Are you gay?
[06:05] <nicholas1520> ubotu I don't know, could you explain it?, nicholas1520
[06:05] <ubotu> nicholas1520: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:05] <CountDown> I've tried both the "Login Photo" and "About Me" dialogues, but neither seems to affect the image used.
[06:05] <haasteem> thoreauputic: you mean .blackboxrc?
[06:05] <ZondeR> iga: yep, ifelt like sitting beside the door in a big restaurant
[06:05] <gnomefreak> the bot is not a toy
[06:06] <thoreauputic> haasteem: should have been only one - ( -nosplash ) and I don't run blackbox, but I'm sure the docs will tell you :)
[06:06] <y_o_u> gnomefreak, so what packages did you d/l and install? there are about 20. get them all?
[06:06] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I guess he understands that now
[06:06] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[06:06] <haasteem> thoreauputic: alright, thanks for the tip
[06:06] <yggdrasil> irc.addictz.net
[06:06] <gnomefreak> y_o_u, i dont have it installed i ran apt-cache search baghira
[06:06] <Seveas> dabaR, both
[06:06] <thoreauputic> haasteem: whichever script starts blackbox  - you will probably need to add an & at the end of the line too
[06:06] <dabaR> :)
[06:07] <Iga> zonder, have you ever installed an "Intel536" internal modem on breezy ?!
[06:07] <dabaR> Seveas: do you use dsl?
[06:07] <y_o_u> sorry, thought you said you had it installed
[06:07] <Seveas> dabaR, yes
[06:07] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok
[06:07] <haasteem> thoreauputic: let me look into it
[06:07] <dabaR> Seveas: well, does your computer use pppoe to connect?
[06:07] <Seveas> no, my modem handles that, I can simply use dhcp :)
[06:07] <dabaR> Seveas: OK.
[06:07] <thoreauputic> haasteem: I use fluxbox - but I run it from ~/.xsession in my home dir
[06:08] <gnomefreak> no y_o_u  why dont you try running apt-cache search <packagename> it will let you know if you can get it with apt-get
[06:08] <Seveas> (actually, my wlan router handles dsl dhcp)
[06:08] <haasteem> thoreauputic: right... then you can probably tell me also how to make windows transparent :)
[06:09] <thoreauputic> haasteem: like terminals? depends which one you use
[06:09] <haasteem> thoreauputic: yes
[06:09] <skon> haasteem: are you using aterm or xterm
[06:09] <haasteem> thoreauputic: xterm
[06:09] <existance> I cannot connect to my mySQL database with any account... how do i set the user and password, I can't find it in the docs.
[06:09] <trappist> <3 Eterm
[06:09] <thoreauputic> haasteem: xterm doesn't do transparency
[06:09] <dabaR> existance: #mysql knows.
[06:10] <trappist> existance: connect as root with no password
[06:10] <skon> haastem: can't you just do Edit|Current Profile?
[06:10] <ZondeR> iga: no, sorry, i don't even know what it is :)
[06:10] <gnomefreak> i use super terminal and gnome term :)
[06:10] <thoreauputic> haasteem: i recommend urxvt ( rxvt-unicode)
[06:10] <skon> Or is it different in fluxbox
[06:10] <y_o_u> gnomefreak: i would but i dont have internet access on kubuntu yet (wireless problems), so cant run apt-get (i dont think, at least)
[06:10] <haasteem> thoreauputic: hmmm.... then how do i use aterm?
[06:10] <y_o_u> thanks though, i will remember that if i ever do get it up and running
[06:10] <thoreauputic> haasteem:  aterm -tr
[06:10] <thoreauputic> haasteem: man aterm ;)
[06:10] <existance> trappist, eh... how?
[06:11] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm having a strange problem with Amarok, it just plays through all the MP3's in a few seconds with no sound.  No errors though.  I'm using the AmaroK Xine engine, with auto output, thanks
[06:11] <gnomefreak> sorry couldnt be more help
[06:11] <NYCT_4_EVER> hello
[06:11] <haasteem> thoreauputic: let me try
[06:11] <skon> haasteem: this is a pretty one I use sometimes : aterm -trsb -tr -sr -title "Terminal" -sh 30 +st -vb -sl 2000 +si -fg white -bg black
[06:11] <thoreauputic> haasteem: aterm doesn't like UTF-8 though
[06:11] <Iga> zonder: a rtc modem (not automatically installed by ubuntu)
[06:11] <AIV> ;_;
[06:11] <lowman62> g'day room
[06:11] <dabaR> existance: you can also read the docs from the mysql site, they are good too. "mysql -u root" or so
[06:12] <haasteem> thoreauputic: looks like i don't have aterm installed
[06:12] <ZondeR> Iga: thankyou, now i am sure i can't help
[06:12] <existance> dabaR i have them in front of me, just having a bit of trouble navigating them i guess.
[06:12] <thoreauputic> haasteem:  sudo apt-get install aterm  :)
[06:12] <dabaR> existance: try that command.
[06:12] <haasteem> thoreauputic: i fugured that :)
[06:12] <existance> dabaR, denied for user: root@localhost (using password: NO)
[06:12] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:13] <haasteem> thoreauputic: what is the difference between aterm and xterm anyways?
[06:13] <dabaR> existance: did you just install?
[06:13] <existance> dabaR. couple days ago
[06:13] <thoreauputic> haasteem: aterm is lighter and quicker, xterm is standard and has different options
[06:13] <AIV> Hello, I'm sorry I asked this question yesterday and I never got a answer, I'm new to linux & raid devices Im trying to create a software raid right now but I have a problem setting up the partitions
[06:13] <lowman62> mysql -p <--then type your password at the prompt after
[06:13] <AIV> any advice?
[06:13] <existance> dabaR, i think i used the command mysqladmin -u root newpassword ***** (the new password)
[06:14] <thoreauputic> haasteem: I changed to urxvt because aterm does weird stuff to utf-8 fonts
[06:14] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok, but it basically serves the same purpose, right?
[06:14] <dabaR> existance: you created a root password, and forgot it?
[06:14] <existance> dabaR, nono, i still know the password
[06:14] <thoreauputic> haakonn: sure, so do gnome-terminal, Eterm, etc
[06:14] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok, so urxvt is a same thing as aterm or xterm?
[06:14] <lowman62> then it is >mysql -p
[06:14] <existance> dabaR, i assumed it would use the user and password from whatever user i was attempting to login from
[06:15] <dabaR> "mysql -u root ***" then...
[06:15] <dabaR> I think
[06:15] <thoreauputic> haasteem: basically similar to aterm - the package is  rxvt-unicode i think
[06:15] <existance> dabaR, cool, thanks :)
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !info  rxvt-unicode
[06:15] <ubotu> rxvt-unicode: (RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 5.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 316 kB, Installed size: 736 kB
[06:15] <dabaR> existance: no, lowman62 is likely right, -p is also needed before the ***
[06:15] <thoreauputic> yup
[06:15] <Iga> zonder: ok, it doesn't matter. let's hope broadband will come early !! (I live in france)
[06:15] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok, let me check in synaptic
[06:15] <lowman62> it is I have mysql on my machine I use it to develop with
[06:15] <existance> dabaR, you can either do -ppassowrd, or -p and put the password in on the next line as ****
[06:15] <existance> dabaR, i remember reading that :)
[06:16] <dabaR> existance: and have you logged in yet?
[06:16] <existance> dabaR, yea, it worked.
[06:16] <existance> dabaR, how do i add users though?
[06:16] <haasteem> thoreauputic: hmm... synaptic doesn't find urxvt
[06:16] <thoreauputic> haasteem:  no,  rxvt-unicode
[06:16] <AIV> existance, you can also create user's that way supplying a blank pw mysql will prompt you for one e.g. mysql -unewname -p
[06:16] <dabaR> existance: good. join theur channel, and read that manual, I remember specifically there is a place where it is shown how to addusers.
[06:17] <thoreauputic> see ubotu above :)
[06:17] <haasteem> thoreauputic: aahhh :)
[06:17] <thoreauputic> haasteem: the *command* is urxvt :)
[06:17] <Kindred> anyone know how I go about stopping my ntfs partition from appearing on the desktop? (while still being automounted..), I also don't want to turn off visibility for mounted icons because I still want to see dvds etc..
[06:17] <existance> dabaR, there is, but I don't know how to find the base directory :(
[06:17] <Kyral> Kindred: its buried in GConf someplace
[06:17] <mwe> thoreauputic: I can't get the transparency to work in urxvt, though. not that it matters that much too me
[06:17] <existance> bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[06:17] <lowman62> existance do this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/adding-users.html
[06:17] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, is it -urxvt or urxvt
[06:17] <Kyral> Note to any GNOME Devs listening: GCONF SHOULD BE SHOT!
[06:18] <Kindred> Kyral, I think it's only for all mounted volumes :|
[06:18] <Kyral> Thing reminds me of the XP Registry
[06:18] <thoreauputic> mwe:  have you tried urxvt -tr   ?
[06:18] <mwe> thoreauputic: yeah
[06:18] <gnomefreak> i have all the repos enabled and i cant apt-cache search it
[06:18] <dabaR> existance: base directory for what?
[06:18] <existance> dabaR, mySQL
[06:18] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: just urxvt
[06:18] <dabaR> existance: which you need because?
[06:18] <existance> lowman62, thanks, that looks like it'll help :)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> mwe: works fine here
[06:18] <existance> dabaR, the reference manual says to be in it to run the commands...
[06:18] <lowman62> it will it helped me out a lot :) yw
[06:19] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic,  if its installed apt-cache search should still fin it right?
[06:19] <existance> lowman62, is that a different manual than the reference one?
[06:19] <mwe> thoreauputic: weird
[06:19] <mwe> thoreauputic: you didn't set anything else for it to work?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it's in universe - the package is  " rxvt-unicode"
[06:19] <lowman62> no that is the 5.0 manual but it works for older versions as well for most things "FOR MOST THINGS"
[06:19] <thoreauputic> mwe: no
[06:20] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok, got it installed and running... now how to make it transparent?
[06:20] <skon> How come when I change my terminal preference in "Preferred Applications", it still opens with the Gnome Terminal?
[06:20] <dabaR> existance: most likely not needed.
[06:20] <existance> ;
[06:20] <gnomefreak> there it is ty i was kind of worried there for a min
[06:20] <mwe> thoreauputic: hm. and it's the rxvt-unicode package, not one of the other rxvt-unicode packages?
[06:20] <thoreauputic> haasteem:  for example - urxvt -tr -bg black -fg white
[06:20] <dabaR> existance: what version do you have? 4.0, or 4.1 or a later one?
[06:20] <existance> dabaR, the manual lowman62 showed me has a way to do it while running mySQL
[06:21] <thoreauputic> mwe: well that's the one I installed yes
[06:21] <mwe> I guess it just dislikes me then
[06:21] <dabaR> existance: oh, K, I never saw what e was doing...
[06:21] <lowman62> existance the GRANT statement works best
[06:21] <lowman62> ;)
[06:21] <haasteem> thoreauputic: wicked!! :)
[06:22] <haasteem> i really like that
[06:22] <existance> dabar, 4.0.24 though
[06:22] <thoreauputic> haasteem: read the man - lots of otheroptions there :)
[06:22] <haasteem> thoreauputic: can you also do that in gnome?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> haasteem: yes, you can do it with that or gnome-terminal
[06:22] <NYCT_4_EVER> anybody can tell me whre the french chanel is  ?
[06:23] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok
[06:23] <Seveas> !fr
[06:23] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:23] <thoreauputic> haasteem: but gnome-terminal doeasn't start as fast :)
[06:23] <haasteem> thoreauputic: :)
[06:23] <NYCT_4_EVER> thks
[06:24] <mwe> have you tried ls /usr/lib in gnome-terminal, then in rxvt? I see a great difference in speed
[06:24] <haasteem> thoreauputic: can you also make other app windows transparent, for instance xchat?
[06:24] <gnomefreak> rxvt should be faster
[06:24] <thoreauputic> mwe: gnome-terminal is pretty slow, yes
[06:24] <lowman62> haasteem yes you can
[06:24] <thoreauputic> haasteem: you can make the text area in xchat transparent
[06:25] <lowman62> yes text area
[06:25] <thoreauputic> haasteem: it's in Settings- Preferences
[06:25] <robertj> how does the pid find it's way to $piddir/sshd.pid
[06:25] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok
[06:25] <robertj> I see in it's init entry where it is checked for but not where it is set
[06:25] <dabaR> existance: your nick may be spelled wrong, I just noticed. I can suggest the manual for 4.0, then, it is really very good, and the #mysql people know quite a bit too.
[06:25] <Linfan> o.k i just did top on terminal it says i have 99 tasks,1 running,98 sleeping and im using 549mb of my 742 of ram i have...is there anyway like windows to stop uneeded services or programs to make the system faster?
[06:25] <StarQuake> is it a good idea to use ubuntu as a webserver?
[06:25] <existance> dabaR, good eye, it is :P
[06:25] <lowman62> don't know why you would want that tho...makes it kinda hard to read text then :P
[06:25] <haasteem> thoreauputic: but for. let's say openoffice it becomes a bit more troublesome, i guess....
[06:26] <existance> dabaR, not that i'm going to change it or anything
[06:26] <khermans> Anyone know the syntax for on-the-fly SSH backups?  I think it is like --> tar jcvf - /home/foo | ssh user@remotehost "cat - > backup,tar.bz2" <-- Is this syntax exact?
[06:26] <StarQuake> a public one
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Linfan: you are misreading - most of the ram is buffers and cache
[06:26] <StarQuake> or should i focus on debian for that task
[06:26] <robertj> StarQuake: I've had very good luck running www.music.uga.edu off of it
[06:26] <mwe> thoreauputic: I wonder why the heck I can't get the transparency to work, though :|
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Linfan: and the sleeping processes aren't using resources
[06:26] <gnomefreak> StarQuake, ubuntu should be fine as a server
[06:26] <dabaR> existance: no, off course...I noticed cause there was this movie exiztanz or something like that.
[06:26] <StarQuake> robertj what about new releases
[06:26] <thoreauputic> mwe: dunno :|
[06:26] <StarQuake> say from 5.04 to 5.10?
[06:26] <robertj> Star: I'm holding at hoary until dapper
[06:26] <skon> How come when I change my terminal preference in "Preferred Applications", it still opens with the Gnome Terminal?
[06:26] <robertj> and hten I will stay there quit a while
[06:27] <Linfan> so how do i know how much ram im using?-i go to system monitor ant it says im using 235 of my 742
[06:27] <StarQuake> but how long will there be updates for dapper?
[06:27] <skon> Linfan: free -m
[06:27] <robertj> Star: 5 years for the server
[06:27] <gnomefreak> 3 years
[06:27] <afief> How can i make my firefox encoding Right-To-Left instead of left to right???
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Linfan:  try looking at the second line of  free -m
[06:27] <robertj> gnome: no, 3 years for the desktop, 5 years for the server
[06:27] <gnomefreak> 5 for server yes
[06:27] <StarQuake> ah 5 years
[06:27] <mp3guy> hi, is there anyway i can encrypt a standard text file or something, or password lock it?
[06:28] <StarQuake> that's enough
[06:28] <gnomefreak> robertj,  i know i fixed it
[06:28] <lowman62> afief: in the address bar type > about:config
[06:28] <robertj> hehe, so anyone with a clue about how the pid file gets created for sshd?
[06:28] <lowman62> it is in there
[06:28] <robertj> does init have some mechanism for creating pid files?
[06:28] <skon> mp3guy: gcipher
[06:28] <StarQuake> mm well, let's get installing then :P
[06:28] <Linfan> it on top this is what it says-742960k,556346k used, 186512 free, 24724 buffers
[06:29] <lowman62> by the way that is a better way to configure the browser it goves you way more options
[06:29] <haasteem> thoreauputic: weird, when i set the background in xchat to transparent, it shows the gnome wallpaper and not the one i am using right now in blackbox, how come?
[06:29] <lowman62> *gives DOH!
[06:29] <thoreauputic> haasteem: you probably ran nutilus without the --no-desktop option
[06:29] <afief> lowman62: I see lot's of flags, but which should i change?:S or at least in which category should i look?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> *nautilus
[06:29] <gnomefreak> i read it as gives :(
[06:29] <skon> Nobody knows how to change the default terminal???
[06:30] <haasteem> thoreauputic: what does nautilus have to do with this?
[06:30] <lowman62> skon: man bash gives you that info
[06:30] <gnomefreak> skon, you do it in prefered apps
[06:30] <Linfan> what command do we use in linux to bring up ipconfig info?
[06:30] <lowman62> i cannot remember how.. :P
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Linfan: look at the entry under "free" when you run  free -m   (on the second line) That is a more realistic measure
[06:30] <gnomefreak> ifconfig
[06:31] <lowman62> Linfan: ifconfig
[06:31] <skon> gnomefreak: that doesn't change it...whenever I click the icon it still opens up Gnome terminal
[06:31] <gnomefreak> or iwconfig for wireless
[06:31] <thoreauputic> haasteem:  nautilus draws the desktop unless you tell it not to :)
[06:31] <Linfan> - m
[06:31] <Linfan> thats what i type in in teminal
[06:31] <gnomefreak> skon, you set the icon to load gnome terminal
[06:31] <haasteem> thoreauputic: ok, but in my menu file, i have given nautilus that option
[06:31] <oxez> Okay so after finishing the gentoo install guide, I rebooted, and then followed the GNOME 2.12 guide. I woke up this morning and everything was complete, I configured the HALd thing, and then rebooted. Now it complains about net.eth0 not starting, which I have logs of: http://24.122.115.48/net_error . Any ideas?
[06:32] <gnomefreak> if you change the set up in the icon its self to load rxvt it can be used
[06:32] <skon> gnomefreak: it set it to load bash
[06:32] <gnomefreak> skon,  or make a custom launcher
[06:32] <haasteem> thoreauputic: or does it remember that i ran nautilus without the option at one point in time (i think i did that once last night)
[06:32] <thoreauputic> haasteem: in that case I don't know what is happening - I use feh to set my backgrounds with fbsetbg
[06:32] <StarQuake> i hate transparent hacks
[06:32] <thoreauputic> haasteem: your conjecture is probably right
[06:32] <gnomefreak> skon, under basic if you look at commmand line type in the command to loar rxvt
[06:33] <gnomefreak> load*
[06:33] <haasteem> thoreauputic: thank you :)
[06:33] <skon> figured it out....thanks
[06:33] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:33] <sunsun> Mez, are you from australia?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> haasteem: no worries :) if you log out of BB and log back in I suspect the problem will disappear - or try "killall nautilus"
[06:34] <oxez> Woops, sorry for posting my question in this channel I always confuse myself. Sorry again
[06:34] <Mez> sunsun - the UK
[06:34] <sunsun> Mez, are you a writer? net.artist?
[06:34] <haasteem> thoreauputic: right
[06:34] <Linfan> i go to this board where they show alot of funny videos-i really dont want to get internet explorer (i dont even know if it can run in linux) but how can i set up firefox to play everytype of video when streaming?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> skon,  when you set it in perfered apps it will bring up the rxvt terminal by default using the hotkeys like alt+F whatever
[06:35] <sunsun> Mez, i am from london
[06:35] <Linfan> right now all i see is a square gray area where the video should be'
[06:35] <benplaut> NX client keeps reporting this... any suggestions?
[06:35] <benplaut> Info: Proxy running in client mode with pid '8536'.
[06:35] <benplaut> Info: Connecting to remote host '70.xx.xxx.xx:5000'.
[06:35] <benplaut> Info: Aborting the procedure due to signal '15', 'SIGTERM'.
[06:35] <polpak> Linfan, First get all the plugins for the restricted formats
[06:35] <benplaut> pm me, i brb
[06:35] <kensai> Hi people a very stupid question but I'm very new to this wlan0 thing in Linux. I have recently put a wireless network card that can work in Linux through ndiswrapper. Do Ubuntu 5.10 includes ndiswrapper package in the default install?
[06:35] <skon> okay, tanks
[06:35] <polpak> ubotu tell Linfan about restricted
[06:35] <Kyral> kensai: its on the CD
[06:35] <Linfan> i did automatix and i installed them
[06:35] <skon> kensai: no, you have to install it
[06:35] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[06:35] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:35] <polpak> Linfan, then you just need to get the mplayer plugin for firefox
[06:35] <Kyral> kensai: with the CD in the drive sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:36] <kensai> skon, I have to install it fronm repo or cd?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> kensai, no
[06:36] <skon> kensai: either way
[06:36] <haasteem> Lifan: try the mplayer plugin
[06:36] <haasteem> Linfan: try the mplayer plugin
[06:36] <Linfan> i did install it through automatix also
[06:36] <kensai> Kyral, thanks
[06:36] <haasteem> Linfan: i don't know automatix
[06:36] <polpak> Linfan, well the only ones that mplayer plugin doesn't support is quicktime and rm I believe
[06:37] <StarQuake> i think automatix is ugly
[06:37] <AIV> has anyone here done the fakeraid howto?
[06:37] <haasteem> polpak: it can also handle realplayer streams
[06:37] <polpak> haasteem, ah, good to know
[06:37] <rjordan> kensai, If you have trouble with the version of ndiswrapper (1.1) in the repos, try downloading and building it's sources. The latest(1.7) worked flawlessly for me.
[06:38] <haasteem> polpak: quicktime, i don't know
[06:38] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, what random script?
[06:38] <StarQuake> ./random.sh
[06:38] <tomi> hi
[06:38] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: scripts that purport to install all the missing bits in Ubuntu for instance
[06:39] <trappist> sudo ./random.sh to get rid of those pesky 'permission denied' errors
[06:39] <gnomefreak> if people would take the time to read the info they would undersatand how the script (any scripts) work :(
[06:39] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, ahhh good point
[06:39] <haasteem> skon: what was that command you gave me earlier on for running a transparent window?
[06:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, they don't even have to read the script. Just reading the wiki will suffice
[06:39] <plagerism> How would i determine what drive grub is installed on?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: but they don't - and new people can't be expected to read bash scripts and know what they are doing to the system
[06:40] <gnomefreak> polpak,  thats what i meant i meant read the wiki or homepage or whatever
[06:40] <polpak> gnomefreak, ah.
[06:40] <selinium> Hi all, I have just compiled from source 'tonefree' check install has completed and installed it, but i cant find it anywhere! Even after updatedb  && locate tonefree
[06:40] <selinium> Any ideas
[06:40] <gnomefreak> i didnt mean the script itself
[06:40] <kensai> rjordan, I think I won't have many problems since my card is a US robotics 5416 and it was donated by Us Robotics itself to the ndiswrappers developers so it is oficially suported. I think 1.1 will work since I'm using 1.2 here at the moment
[06:41] <_thumper_> Hi all, I have a Maxtor external HD that connects directly to the network (cabled), but shares using windows shares. I was wondering if it is possible to mount using nfs rather than samba as it looses file attributes.
[06:41] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: but if you don't understand the script, you are running a risk - especially as root / sudo
[06:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, very true
[06:41] <rjordan> kensai, cool. I had trouble cause I'm on an amd64 laptop and needed a 64 bit xp driver.
[06:42] <thoreauputic> selinium:  dpkg -L tonefree  ?
[06:42] <QMario> Hello thoreauputic!!! :)
[06:42] <thoreauputic> QMario: hi :)
[06:43] <kensai> rjordan, sure it has to be a pain. I'll just have problems with setting ndiswrapper myself maybe since in pclinuxos there is a gui tool for doing so, I didn't had to play with any commands
[06:43] <doreiny> hello
[06:43] <doreiny> :] 
 NoWhereToTurn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- if one is using a serial mouse on COM2 do u select the dev/mouse or ttys1 as the port?
[06:43] <doreiny> sorry for my english
[06:43] <erUSUL> NoWhereToTurn, ttyS1
[06:44] <doreiny> i got some problame in source.list file
[06:44] <doreiny> (im new in linux)
[06:44] <StarQuake> tell us
[06:44] <doreiny> i got some :
[06:44] <thoreauputic> NoWhereToTurn: ttyS1 <-- notice capital S
[06:44] <kensai> kubuntu should have ndiswrapper to right?
[06:44] <doreiny> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:44] <thoreauputic> NoWhereToTurn: *nix is case sensitive
[06:44] <kensai> I mean I have 6.04 flight 2
[06:44] <pashaw> doreiny,  language you speak?
[06:44] <polpak> doreiny, you need to enable your universe and multiverse repos
[06:45] <doreiny> hebrew and english
[06:45] <StarQuake> sjalom
[06:45] <thoreauputic> !tell doreiny about sources
[06:45] <doreiny> ye its all enable
[06:45] <benplaut> Info: Aborting the procedure due to signal '15', 'SIGTERM'.
[06:45] <mp3guy> how do i set which version of gcc ./configure uses?
[06:45] <benplaut> woops
[06:45] <rjordan> kensai, ndisgtk pwnz :)
[06:45] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about FreeNX?
[06:45] <kensai> rjordan, in cd?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[06:46] <ubotu> freenx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:46] <gnomefreak> !freeNX
[06:46] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:46] <erUSUL> mp3guy, use export CC=... make
[06:46] <rjordan> I don't know if it's on cd but it's in repos.
[06:46] <hikenboot> hello can anyone tell me if the ubuntu installer detects via_velocity gigabit ethernet adapters?
[06:46] <doreiny> wait i will show you my source.list file ill just upload him
[06:46] <StarQuake> lol, 'it has been said'
[06:46] <pashaw> !il
[06:46] <ubotu> pashaw: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:46] <kensai> rjordan, I'll try with kubuntu 6.04 flight 2 since that is what I have burned at the moment
[06:47] <mp3guy> erUSUL, how do i use that?
[06:47] <kensai> I'll switch to ubuntu if it works since I Love GNOME
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ndiswrapper-util should be on cd (atleast for breezy
[06:47] <hikenboot> and would anyone recommend ubuntu as a system that will run a gui on 128 meg of ram?
[06:47] <doreiny> look
[06:47] <Kyral> Fluxbox
[06:47] <doreiny> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html
[06:47] <polpak> mp3guy, or of you want to set the version to use globally you can use sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[06:47] <pjlucas> I have a software bridge set up and I believe it's dropping packets. What would be the best way to debug this? Suggested tools/utils?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> hikenboot, yes but more is better
[06:47] <pashaw> doreiny,   you can try #ubuntu-il     also if english becomes a problem
[06:48] <erUSUL> mp3guy, you run configure and then run make with the 'export CC=gccxx' in front
[06:48] <gnomefreak> 128 is min. ram you should use
[06:48] <doreiny> oh thanx
[06:48] <doreiny> :] 
[06:48] <hikenboot> all i want to do is run NXCLient to a server
[06:48] <rjordan> cool
[06:48] <Kyral> FreeNX wha?
[06:48] <polpak> mp3guy, or not... I thought that was right, but it doesn't work on my system
[06:48] <hikenboot> yes the client associated with freenx
[06:48] <mgw> is it possible to put some pictures back to a digicam? if yes, how can i do this?
[06:48] <hikenboot> the paid for client
[06:48] <Linuturk> i like RealVNC
[06:48] <Kyral> ick
[06:49] <pashaw> hikenboot,   128mb    do a server install   then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <gouchi> Hi
[06:49] <Kyral> I use the FreeClient
[06:49] <gouchi> is there a tips to make ls |less worky ?
[06:49] <doreiny> pashaw : nobody out there :\
[06:49] <pjlucas> Or, similarly, ifconfig is showing that there are errors, but it's not saying what they are. How do I find out what the problem is?
[06:49] <pashaw> doreiny,   :(
[06:49] <Linuturk> www.realvnc.com
[06:49] <hikenboot> pashaw: why is that exactly?
[06:49] <gouchi> it says less command not found and I have less
[06:49] <gouchi> which less is ok , my $PATH is ok
[06:49] <gouchi> any idea ?
[06:49] <hikenboot> for consumption perposes?
[06:49] <pashaw> hikenboot,   gnome and KDE are RAM hogs   xubuntu is alot smaller
[06:49] <veriz> anyone can tell me whats wrong? MySQL manager or server PID file could not be found!
[06:50] <pashaw> hikenboot,   im using it on my old 192mb lappy
[06:50] <hikenboot> do  you know if it will work with FreeNX client?
[06:50] <doreiny> pashaw : do you have link for some source.list (for a good one) ?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> gouchi: odd - does less work without the pipe ?
[06:50] <Linuturk> pashaw, there is a distro of xubuntu?
[06:50] <Kyral> !xubuntu
[06:50] <ubotu> it has been said that xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:50] <pashaw> Linuturk,   its a desktop    thats why you do server install from Ubuntu install cd
[06:50] <gouchi> thoreauputic : yep it's an example all my |didn't work !
[06:50] <mp3guy> polpak, i fixed it, just made a slight change in configure
[06:50] <hikenboot> ok thanks a bunch guys will do exactly that
[06:50] <odin> How do you make mplayer streatch from commandline?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> hikenboot: the NoMachine client works fine with a freenx server
[06:51] <pashaw> doreiny,    enable universe and multiverse    what else you looking for?
[06:51] <Linuturk> pashaw, o, i see, I thought there was an iso. I rely on a wireless connection that I don't know how to configure for ubuntu
[06:51] <hikenboot> thanks all for the great responses! currently running fedora in my dom0 but the damn thing is a memory hog
[06:51] <pashaw> !tell Linuturk about wifi
[06:51] <erUSUL> !tell doreiny about repos
[06:51] <doreiny> it just that my friend edit this file and now im not sure its good
[06:52] <Linuturk> pashaw, i've been there, no help
[06:52] <pashaw> doreiny,    ohhh    pastebin your sources.list   we can look at it
[06:52] <pashaw> !pastebin
[06:52] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:52] <erUSUL> doreiny, read what ubotu send you
[06:52] <doreiny> yes 10q
[06:52] <doreiny> :] 
[06:52] <Ungy> how do I access a usb device?
[06:53] <erUSUL> Ungy, what kind of device?
[06:53] <doreiny> pashaw : http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html
[06:53] <Ungy> erUSUL, mp3 player
[06:53] <pashaw> !tell Linuturk about ndiswrapper
[06:54] <erUSUL> Ungy, it should just appear in your desktop once plugged
[06:54] <mevvis> hi
[06:54] <Ungy> erUSUL, damn i Guess it's not supported
[06:54] <mevvis> people don't use ICQ!!!!!
[06:54] <mevvis> http://maniak.fatal.ru/mirabilis/
[06:54] <mevvis> people don't use ICQ!!!!!
[06:54] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about freenx?
[06:54] <erUSUL> Ungy, do sudo tail /var/log/messages and plug the thing
[06:55] <hikenboot> ok just one more question...looking for rock solid stability on a 2.6.8 kernel or later ..any recomendations of the version to use hoary or other?
[06:56] <benplaut> hikenboot: the default
[06:56] <benplaut> it's the best tested
[06:56] <epp> hey
[06:56] <Linuturk> does the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version?
[06:56] <Ungy> erUSUL, nothing ;-(
[06:56] <pashaw> doreiny,   looks ok   universe has a repeat  but  you having problems?
[06:56] <epp> how can i add music to amarok from another computer?
[06:56] <hikenboot> must have via_velocity net card support as well with nforce chipset support
[06:57] <Ungy> epp, mount the other computer drive
[06:57] <hikenboot> thats the last thing i can think of that will go wrong
[06:57] <doreiny> pashaw : yes man i got some problames
[06:57] <coNP> epp: nfs / samba / ...
[06:57] <epp> k
[06:57] <doreiny> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:57] <doreiny> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:57] <doreiny> is only available from another source
[06:57] <polpak> doreiny, did you enable the multiverse repos?
[06:57] <doreiny> yes
[06:57] <pashaw> doreiny,  did you  sudo apt-get update
[06:57] <polpak> doreiny, and the universe repos?
[06:58] <doreiny> yes
[06:58] <doreiny> and yes
[06:58] <polpak> doreiny, and did an apt-get update
[06:58] <doreiny> :] 
[06:58] <Linuturk> pashaw, does the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version?
[06:58] <thoreauputic> mevvis: don't spam your URLs here please
[06:58] <doreiny> yes again :)
[06:58] <pashaw> Linuturk,  64bit outta my league
[06:58] <doreiny> thats whats wird
[06:58] <polpak> doreiny, well either you didn't do one of those, or your sources.list is wrong
[06:59] <nmsa> hello
[06:59] <Linuturk> does the 64 bit edition of ubuntu support the same drivers of the 32-bit version? would more hardware be autodetected using the 32-bit version? <<< Anyone else?
[06:59] <doreiny> from where i can get a good source.list?
[06:59] <pashaw> polpak,  she posted her sources.list  in the link to me above
[06:59] <nmsa> can anyone help me with iptables ?
[06:59] <hikenboot> any comment on the nforce chipset support?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> !sources
[06:59] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:59] <StarQuake> nl whooohooo!
[07:00] <pashaw> polpak,   this link  doreiny pashaw : http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOEYGF95.html
[07:00] <Ram[RL] > how can i set 75Hz to my screen? i have currently only 60hz
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hikenboot about hardware
[07:01] <doreiny> yes can you see something wrong there?
[07:01] <polpak> doreiny, only that you haven't enabled the multiverse repo for the security updates..
[07:01] <gnomefreak> why are the sources repos # out
[07:01] <doreiny> really?! you can see taht?
[07:02] <doreiny> :)
[07:02] <skon> hasteem are you still here
[07:02] <doreiny> that*
[07:02] <doreiny> ohhh i can see it too now
[07:02] <polpak> gnomefreak, cause doreiny doesn't like building things from source?
[07:02] <doreiny> ill try and tell you
[07:02] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   lol im blind i passed right by those # at the src lines
[07:03] <skon> haastem: when you come back, the cmd is: aterm -trsb -tr -sr -title "Terminal" -sh 30 +st -vb -sl 2000 +si -fg white -bg black
[07:03] <gnomefreak> should beable to add multiverse after universe
[07:03] <Linuturk> there isn't anyway to install from the live cd, is there?
[07:03] <pjlucas> Any suggestions on how to debug frame errors?
[07:03] <haasteem> skon: thanks
[07:03] <skon> np
[07:03] <benplaut> Linuturk: nope
[07:03] <gnomefreak> pashaw, but someday she might?
[07:03] <skon> Linuturk: nah
[07:04] <gnomefreak> yeah what they said :)
[07:04] <benplaut> Linuturk: also, the support for 64 is still a bit behind for proprietary drivers... but don't listen to me - i use 32 :P
[07:04] <budgester> hi, I am having trouble with video playback, all I seem to get is blue/cyan stripes, anyone got any ideas ?
[07:04] <polpak> doreiny, you're also missing the  restricted and main repos
[07:04] <epp> also what theme should i run to spede it up?
[07:04] <doreiny> oh
[07:05] <pashaw> polpak,   arent those at the top
[07:05] <doreiny> :\
[07:05] <gnomefreak> pashaw, also she has some scr un # and some #ed not sure if that will error or not
[07:05] <doreiny> polpak : i need to add a complate line's?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> src*
[07:05] <polpak> pashaw, ah. you're right. I was looking at the other line
[07:05] <chmod775> !artmanager
[07:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, chmod775
[07:06] <pashaw> doreiny,   no those are at lines 3 and 4  your ok
[07:06] <chmod775> !art
[07:06] <ubotu> art is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[07:06] <polpak> pashaw, oh wait no
[07:06] <polpak> pashaw, gah. I can never remember how this file works.. ;p
[07:06] <doreiny> oh i enabled them now
[07:06] <polpak> pashaw, I always just use synaptic to manage my repos
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:07] <doreiny> but still it dosent work
[07:07] <davix_> oh
[07:07] <Linuturk> benplaut, when you say proprietary drivers, what do you mean? wireless stuff probably?
[07:07] <davix_> I see you're here
[07:07] <gnomefreak> doreiny, sudo apt-get update?
[07:07] <pashaw> doreiny,   here ill pastebin mikne you can compare them    mine has us. your il.  ignore those
[07:07] <benplaut> Linuturk: not really sure... just repeating what i've heard the the past
[07:07] <erUSUL> doreiny, take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[07:07] <doreiny> wow guys you are good :] 
[07:08] <lowman62> well pitter patter time to scatter ;)
[07:08] <pashaw> erUSUL,   thx bookmarked that clean one
[07:08] <doreiny> gnomefreak: yes
[07:08] <doreiny> pashaw : ok
[07:09] <doreiny> erUSUL: what i need to see ? :\
[07:09] <pashaw> doreiny,   also do sudo apt-get clean && update
[07:10] <doreiny> oh ok
[07:11] <doreiny> done
[07:11] <doreiny> but still
[07:11] <doreiny> look
[07:11] <doreiny> doreiny@tux:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:11] <doreiny> Reading package lists... Done
[07:11] <doreiny> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:11] <doreiny> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:11] <doreiny> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:11] <doreiny> is only available from another source
[07:11] <doreiny> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[07:11] <doreiny> sorry for the mass masseges
[07:11] <pashaw> doreiny,   please use pastebin next time  :(
[07:12] <doreiny> ok man
[07:12] <doreiny> im sorry
[07:12] <doreiny> :|
[07:12] <gnomefreak> doreiny,  your using breezy?
[07:12] <doreiny> yes
[07:12] <doreiny> kubuntu breezy
[07:12] <gnomefreak> doreiny,  try running apt-cache search xmms
[07:12] <doreiny> k
[07:12] <polpak> doreiny, and you are certain you're doing sudo apt-get update
[07:12] <erUSUL> doreiny, a good sources.lst for breezy
[07:12] <doreiny> polpak yes dude
[07:13] <polpak> doreiny, cause the only other thing I can think is that it's not in the il repo
[07:13] <doreiny> 7 times by now
[07:13] <yanis_> hello
[07:13] <polpak> doreiny, which doesn't make any sense
[07:13] <gnomefreak> !info xmms
[07:13] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[07:14] <yanis_> do you have any idea how I can do a "clean install" of ubuntu without formatting my hard disc
[07:14] <thoreauputic> xmms is in main - there's no way it's missing
[07:14] <gnomefreak> it looks like its in main repo il should be same as everyone else well i would think
[07:14] <pashaw> yanis_,   you can reinstall   with default settings    but clean without formatting?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> yanis_: erm - to do a clean install you have to format the disk at some point
[07:15] <thoreauputic> or at least a partition
[07:15] <sethk> yanis_, just rename all your existing directories.  I do mkdir /prev, then I move everything under /prev
[07:15] <_TomB> where is the grub conf files on the livecd?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> i thought thats what clean meant
[07:15] <sethk> yanis_, no need to format anything, not even a partition
[07:15] <hypnoz> hello
[07:15] <doreiny> gnomefreak : doreiny@tux:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:16] <doreiny> its good
[07:16] <gnomefreak> _TomB, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:16] <doreiny> it find all the stuff
[07:16] <_TomB> not there
[07:16] <pashaw> yanis_,   you sure you dont mean you want to skip parttioning
[07:16] <gnomefreak> doreiny, it worked?
[07:16] <doreiny> yes
[07:16] <thoreauputic> sethk: but a clean install has to overwrite stuff - which is the same thing surely?
[07:16] <doreiny> but i cant install it
[07:16] <gnomefreak> _TomB,  do you have linux installed?
[07:16] <yanis_> cant I just give an rm -r / and then somehow install ubuntu again?
[07:16] <_TomB> yes
[07:16] <doreiny> i just can search it
[07:16] <Joe4> ok, I have a dsl hub (called fritz box!) that I need to get working, but I got no clue how, normally i would run the cd for it and it woudl do it for me, but its an exe
[07:17] <_TomB> Im remastering the livecd
[07:17] <yanis_> pashaw: I just want to skip the format step
[07:17] <pashaw> yanis_,   thats the same as formatting thast partiton all it does is break all your index links
[07:17] <|Lestat|> anyone here happen to use a DWL-G132 wifi device?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> _TomB, sorry cant help there but grub config file should be at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:18] <Joe4> can someone please help me get my internet working??
[07:18] <polpak> yanis_, how is that different from formatting?
[07:18] <yanis_> pashaw: so formatting is just that??? not anything more?
[07:18] <polpak> yanis_, essentially
[07:18] <pashaw> yanis_,   formatting is cleanign the drive    parttioning is resizing partitions
[07:18] <yanis_> I thought that partitioning was 'more painful' for my HDD
[07:18] <polpak> yanis_, except perhaps that rm -rf / would be slower than formatting
[07:19] <polpak> yanis_, neither is 'painful'
[07:19] <polpak> yanis_, both are perfectly normal HDD activities
[07:19] <gnomefreak> formatting will erase all data partioning is just setting up sections on hd
[07:19] <pashaw> yanis_,   formatting is NOT bad at all matter of fact its good for your drive  youll find any bad spots
[07:19] <yanis_> I have heard that you shouldnt format you disc 'every week'
[07:19] <vilefridge> Hello! :)  I'm trying to follow a how-to for installing the latest snapshot of madwifi-ng located here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105437&highlight=madwifi-ng      The very first step is to run sudo apt-get --purge linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`     however it results in the following error: E: Invalid operation linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386    What am I doing wrong?
[07:20] <pashaw> yanis_,    thats a bit  odd to format that much   ive formatted disks 20 times on 1 week doing testing tho
[07:20] <polpak> yanis_, well, it would certainly hinder whatever projects you're working on, but it's not bad for the disk
[07:20] <yanis_> I see
[07:20] <psusi> the only thing that is painfull about formatting or partitioning is the data loss ( if you forgot to backup the important stuff )
[07:21] <gnomefreak> !madwifi
[07:21] <ubotu> Not a clue, gnomefreak
[07:22] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[07:22] <ubotu> :)
[07:22] <paulproteus|lapt> vilefridge: apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:22] <pashaw> vilefridge,    do they mention unloading that module before remvoing it
[07:22] <paulproteus|lapt> vilefridge: You must specify a *command* to apt-get, like "remove" or "install".
[07:22] <paulproteus|lapt> vilefridge: --purge is a suggestion of how to do the command, but you never gave it a command.
[07:22] <gnomefreak> i missed that lol
[07:23] <pashaw> lol me too
[07:23] <vilefridge> paulproteus|lapt, papshaw: thanks!  That worked =)
[07:28] <gnomefreak> anyone else running breezy in the help icon under guide and upgrade  does it say breezy 5.04?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> or is it just me
[07:28] <ubunt-new> how do i remove a program rm -rf program or rm -r
[07:29] <erUSUL> ubunt-new, apt-get remove program
[07:29] <gnomefreak> ubunt-new,  what program?
[07:29] <psusi> ubunt-new: use synaptic
[07:29] <ubunt-new> if its from the source
[07:29] <erUSUL> ubunt-new, or use synaptic
[07:29] <epp> where is the network folder located?
[07:29] <ubunt-new> i installed and now i want to remove
[07:30] <psusi> ubunt-new: you mean you compiled something by hand and did a "make install"?
[07:30] <ubunt-new> yes
[07:30] <psusi> try make uninstall
[07:30] <Joe4> does anyone know how to set up a hub ? I really need help, total beginner
[07:30] <gnomefreak> dpkg -rw  something isnt it?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> !dpkg
[07:31] <Joe4> I really need help with this hub
[07:31] <paulproteus|lapt> Joe4: Set up a hub?
[07:31] <Joe4> ok
[07:31] <ubunt-new> if i want to uptdate gaim to gaim 2.0
[07:31] <paulproteus|lapt> Joe4: Tell me, what do you want it to do?
[07:31] <ubunt-new> how u do it
[07:31] <gnomefreak> ubunt-new,  compile it for tar
[07:31] <psusi> Joe4: what kind of hub?  an ethernet hub?  there isn't anything to set up.. you just plug it in
[07:31] <gnomefreak> get rid of old gaim
[07:32] <paulproteus|lapt> A USB hub?  Same deal.
[07:32] <Joe4> my internet (dsl) goes through this hub (its called fritz sl wlan) and in windows, i just put in the disc, and it sets it up for me, but its a exe so it wont run in linux
[07:32] <paulproteus|lapt> Joe4: Oh, okay.
[07:32] <ubunt-new> so i can not uptdate sudo apt-get uptdate gaim
[07:32] <paulproteus|lapt> Once you've set up the DSL router, you should be able to just use DHCP from Linux.
[07:32] <gnomefreak> no ubunt-new
[07:32] <Joe4> i dont have a router , jus this fritz box
[07:32] <Joe4> and it doesnt work in windows till i run this disc
[07:32] <gnomefreak> 2.0 hasnt been rel;eased yet and is still in beta even dapper doesnt have it yet
[07:33] <psusi> Joe4: that box sits between your computer(s) and the cable modem right?
[07:33] <Joe4> no cable modem, the cable comes from the phone cord, into the box, then into my computer
[07:33] <psusi> then that box is a dsl modem
[07:34] <Joe4> alright
[07:34] <phantomcircuit-a> http://phantomcircuit.mine.nu/ i got splooged on :(
[07:34] <AndrewX__> ok so /boot = /dev/sda1   / = /dev/sda4       C:\ = /dev/hda1     ubuntu installs grub only to /dev/hda and i get a "Kernel Panic: VFS: cannot mount root fs"
[07:34] <psusi> there are a few possibilities dependong on how the box and your isp are set up
[07:34] <Joe4> I cant even ask them how, they only speak german
[07:34] <Joe4> that really bites
[07:34] <Joe4> how do i find out what i need?
[07:34] <psusi> one is that dhcp should make everything work fine... any isp that does not use this method needs kicked in the balls
[07:35] <Joe4> yea that doesnt work on mine
[07:35] <psusi> the other option is that they use pppoe, which is gay
[07:35] <epp> where is the network folder located?
[07:35] <epp> where is the network folder located?
[07:35] <psusi> I'm fairly sure you can use pppoe from linux, but I have no idea how to set that up
[07:35] <Joe4> damn
[07:36] <psusi> call your isp and ask them if you need to use pppoe
[07:36] <Joe4> alright
[07:36] <Joe4> i gotta get my wife to do it
[07:36] <Joe4> i dont speak german, and we live in germany
[07:36] <psusi> if that's the case... see if there's any articles on pppoe on the ubuntu wiki
[07:36] <DRAGON_Ultra> joe4 you on dialup
[07:36] <Fiyawerx> hey guys, does anyone know how to play wmv3's? I installed vlc, but I just get audio and no video
[07:37] <ataq> any good vnc progs out there?
[07:37] <Draken> can someone help me, im tryuing to dial up with kppp, but i keep on getting a PPPD error after it has dialed up ?
[07:37] <psusi> ataq: yea... "vnc"
[07:37] <ataq> hahaha
[07:37] <ataq> lol
[07:37] <bobbyd> Fiyawerx, did you encode that video yourself?
[07:37] <ataq> do you have drivers installed?
[07:37] <Fiyawerx> no
[07:37] <ataq> draken
[07:38] <Joe4> how can i tell if my ubuntu has found my nic anyway, because i havent installed any drivers for it, and its onboard, but i did "activate" it
[07:38] <veriz> does anyone have mysql5.0? instelled with apt-get ?
[07:39] <pashaw> !tell veriz about lamp
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  are you using the same pc in linux right now?
[07:39] <Fiyawerx> heh
[07:39] <Joe4> no
[07:39] <Joe4> lol
[07:39] <yanis_> does anyone knows how I can 'ssh' to a remote host without entering the password everytime?
[07:39] <Happuf> Someone know how the get folder availbe for me?
[07:39] <Joe4> im dual booting
[07:39] <Happuf> What chmod i have to write?
[07:39] <_null> yanis_, use public keys..
[07:39] <veriz> pashaw: its installint mysql4.0 with that
[07:39] <veriz> pashaw: but im talking about 5.0
[07:39] <Happuf> (Need acces to windows folder)
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  use lspci command
[07:39] <pashaw> veriz,   read it  its tells you about 5
[07:39] <Joe4> how?
[07:40] <yanis_> _null: I tried but I dont manage it..
[07:40] <Joe4> i dunno what that is
[07:40] <veriz> pashaw: ok thnx
[07:40] <_null> yanis_, ssh-keygen -t dsa, then put your key into .ssh/authorized_keys... do not forget to turn on the option in the ssh config
[07:40] <Joe4> ive used windows for life untill now
[07:40] <gnomefreak> joe you log into  ubuntu and type lspci at commadn line
[07:40] <Joe4> ok then what?
[07:40] <mwe> veriz: the latest version in my ubuntu is mysql 4.1
[07:40] <gnomefreak> or Joe4  see if you nic card is listed here
[07:40] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[07:40] <ubotu> [hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:40] <Joe4> ok
[07:41] <yanis_> _null: where do I run ssh-keygen?in the ssh -server?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  you asked how to see if ubuntu sees your nic that command should tell you
[07:41] <psusi> yanis_: yes... make an RSA keypair and put the public key in the proper place on the server
[07:41] <Draken> can someone help me, im tryuing to dial up with kppp, but i keep on getting a PPPD error after it has dialed up ?
[07:41] <_null> yanis_, no, on the client
[07:41] <_null> yanis_, then put it in .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[07:41] <mwe> Draken: what pppd error?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> installing*
[07:42] <epp>  ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?
[07:42] <meepy> I got a question, lets say I used ./configure and make and make install to install a eg. a plugin, how do I then remove that again when I decide to not want to use it again? is there a command?
[07:43] <Joe4> i think i may just have to buy a new nic card
[07:43] <mwe> meepy: use checkinstall to install it instead
[07:43] <meepy> ehm.
[07:43] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -r <packagename> i think and try to use checkingstall
[07:43] <mwe> meepy: it creates a .deb and installs it for your. you can then use dpkg -r to uninstall
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Joe4, what is your nic card?
[07:43] <Happuf> How i get to know my user pid?
[07:43] <meepy> aaah. nice - apt-get install checkinstall?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> meepy,  yes
[07:44] <gnomefreak> sudo first
[07:44] <meepy> :)
[07:44] <epp>  ok  so when i want to add media to amarok it only shows the filesystem root, dev, home, opt, etc... where is the network folder with othercomputers located?
[07:44] <mwe> meepy: not all source packages provides an uninstall mecanism, but with those that do you can unstall with make uninstall from the source dir if you kept it
[07:44] <Draken> mwe: it says PPPD daemon has died
[07:44] <Joe4> my nic card is a real tek
[07:44] <Joe4> let me find out
[07:44] <Joe4> its on my asrock board brb
[07:45] <mwe> Draken: yeah. you gotta look in the log files /var/log for more info about why it died
[07:45] <meepy> mwe, what if I did not keep it?
[07:45] <TCTCH> hey, I have a new USB-250g Harddrive and I want to use it in linux and Windows...now how can I format it in fat32 so that win and lin can write...in linux? is there a programm?
[07:45] <_null> tclhal, mkfs.fat
[07:45] <_null> sorry this was meant for TCTCH
[07:45] <TCTCH> is it with interface?
[07:45] <_null> i don't know, you could try gparted too
[07:45] <bobbyd> TCTCH, does fat32 support drives that size? I think not in one partition...
[07:45] <pashaw> TCTCH,   you can just format it in windows  as fat32   linux will be able to use it
[07:46] <mwe> meepy: then you're probably fsck'ed or you can redownload and compile/install then make uninstall
[07:46] <yanis_> _null: in what users on ssh-server machine do I put the public key
[07:46] <TCTCH> I cant format it in windows for fat32 only for ntfs because its an usb extern hd
[07:46] <TCTCH> I have to do it in linux
[07:46] <meepy> Ah okay, so in all I need to save all my sources I download?
[07:46] <mwe> meepy: not all source packages provides make uninstall though, but most do
[07:46] <_null> yanis_, in the user you log in with
[07:46] <yanis_> _null: neither root neither my simple user have an .ssh dir
[07:46] <TCTCH> gparted? i will try it
[07:46] <mjr> FAT32 actually supports drives that size, but you have to mkfatfs it in Linux
[07:47] <_null> yanis_, create it and do chmod 700 on it
[07:47] <mwe> meepy: no just use checkinstall instead
[07:47] <yanis_> ok
[07:47] <TCTCH> mkfatfs in linux?
[07:47] <mjr> I think Windows will refuse to create a FAT32 that big :)
[07:47] <TCTCH> what that?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  is it an NE2000 with a D10022 rev5 chipset?
[07:47] <Kyral> CheckInstall is evil
[07:47] <j2daosh> hey... got a question...with vnc anyone with a packet sniffer can see whats going on huh?
[07:47] <mwe> meepy: instead of sudo make install you just type sudo checkinstall
[07:47] <meepy> mwe, stupid question: using checkinstall so I then target the .tar.gz folder or the files itself?
[07:47] <polpak> mkfatfs is the command to format a device to fat32
[07:47] <mjr> oops, mkdosfs/mkfs.vfat
[07:47] <TCTCH> refuse?? hope not!!
[07:47] <j2daosh> its not encrypted or nothing is it?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> nm forget the above
[07:48] <Kyral> j2daosh: normally VNC is not encrypted
[07:48] <Juhaz> yeah, windows will refuse to create it on purpose... guess the idea of filesystem well supported by all platforms didn't sit very well with them
[07:48] <TCTCH> no encryped
[07:48] <Smoked1> I have always used freebsd and debian. What packaging system does ubuntu use?
[07:48] <mjr> TCTCH, it's not a problem since you can create the FS on Linux, and use it on both
[07:48] <j2daosh> dang... ok... but ssh is right?
[07:48] <Draken> mwe: it was some error about password cant get ip address
[07:48] <TCTCH> ...hmm..shit
[07:48] <Joe4> ok my nic card is a Realtek RTL8201CL
[07:48] <polpak> Smoked1, it uses deb
[07:48] <mwe> meepy: you ./configure and make as usual. at the point where you would sudo make install you would then sudo checkinstall instead
[07:48] <meepy> aaah
[07:48] <TCTCH> mjr: how can I greate it in linux?
[07:48] <meepy> Thanks!
[07:49] <Draken> mwe: it was some error about password cant get ip address
[07:49] <j2daosh> Kyral, ssh is encrypted though right?
[07:49] <epp> where is the samba folder located on the filesystem?
[07:49] <Kyral> j2daosh: yah
[07:49] <Joe4> ok my nic card is a Realtek RTL8201CL
[07:49] <mjr> TCTCH, with mkdosfs, as said
[07:49] <gnomefreak> i see every other nic card made by them but that one :( lol
[07:49] <Kyral> j2daosh: just use FreeNX
[07:49] <Smoked1> Will ubuntu run well on my inspiron 6000?
[07:49] <j2daosh> and with ssh i have multiple users logged in at once?
[07:49] <Joe4> damn
[07:49] <Joe4> fucking asrock
[07:49] <mwe> Draken: error about password? that indicates you provided the wrong password I would guess
[07:49] <TCTCH> mjr: ahh..ok
[07:49] <yanis_> _null authorized_keys is a dir that contains the client.pub , right?
[07:49] <_null> no
[07:49] <Joe4> i guess i should just buy a new nic card?
[07:49] <pashaw> epp,    /etc/samba
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  wait a few more things ill check
[07:49] <_null> yanis_, .ssh/authorized_keys is a file
[07:49] <Joe4> ok great
[07:49] <_null> each line has one key
[07:50] <j2daosh> when i connect using ssh is the display shown on the server computer or when i port it does it just show up on the client computer?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Joe4, it is wired right?
[07:50] <epp> pashaw, thx man
[07:50] <yanis_> _null ok
[07:50] <Joe4> as in onboard, yea
[07:50] <Draken> mwe: tyhe password is fine
[07:51] <mwe> Draken: and you configured the account correctly?
[07:51] <pashaw> j2daosh,   for guides you can google    vnc over ssh
[07:51] <j2daosh> ty
[07:51] <Kyral> j2daosh: just use FreeNX
[07:52] <pashaw> j2daosh,   agreed freeNX is sweet
[07:52] <epp> pashaw, i meant to ask where the list of local copmuters are.
[07:52] <pashaw> epp,    i dont understand the question
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Joe4,  when you get access to ubuntu open terminal and type lspci if it doesnt list your nic than you might need drivers for it for that command you dont need to be online
[07:52] <Kyral> j2daosh: Imagine faster than VNC over ANY connection, and encrypted through SSH
[07:52] <polpak> epp, what you really want to do is get smbfs and then mount your shares to the local filesystem
[07:53] <Kyral> on fast enough conns you can even forward multimedia
[07:53] <Joe4> ok thnx, brb
[07:53] <Kyral> though thats best done through a LAN
[07:53] <epp> polpak, exactly! how would i go about doing that?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> hb
[07:53] <polpak> epp, sudo apt-get install smbfs
[07:54] <j2daosh> ok... anyone got a link to seeting up ssh... i just tried to ssh to my ubuntu box but it wont let me so i think it isn't set up yet
[07:55] <polpak> epp, then sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=remote-user,uid=local-user,gid=local-user //share-host/share-dir local-dir
[07:55] <j2daosh> what do i do? sudo apt-get install ssh?
[07:55] <kemik> j2daosh:  just install open-sshd
[07:55] <kemik> or even opensshd
[07:55] <j2daosh> open sshd
[07:55] <trappist> j2daosh: won't let you as in permission denied? connection refused? timeout? command not found?
[07:55] <j2daosh> all one word?
[07:55] <j2daosh> connection refused
[07:55] <polpak> epp, then it'll prompt you for your sudo password, then it will prompt you for the remote user password
[07:55] <j2daosh> i have the forwarding set up for 22
[07:55] <kemik> j2daosh:  one word or with the "-"
[07:55] <j2daosh> i just think i dont have it setup
[07:55] <kemik> j2daosh:  use the search function
[07:56] <j2daosh> but i thought it was when ubuntu was installed... guess not though
[07:56] <trappist> openssh-server
[07:56] <kp> rv kp_sacher
[07:56] <polpak> epp, I'm actually in the process of writing a gtk app that will help manage smb shared directories in this fashion, but it'll be a few more weeks before it's presentable
[07:56] <j2daosh> ok imma run downstairs real quick,.. ill be back on here in a sec
[07:56] <egil> How to download a secure page like the following one with wget ? => https://www.chant.org/scripts/chant/icb_result.asp?flag=in&title=H01106+%A5%BF
[07:56] <egil> I can watch it in firefox with no problem
[07:56] <polpak> wget url
[07:57] <Badm4n> hello
[07:57] <trappist> egil: wget gives you a hint in the output
[07:57] <epp> polpak, sounds great is there a project website?
[07:57] <j2daosh> ok back now
[07:57] <polpak> epp, not currently. I haven't really done the sourceforge thing before.
[07:58] <mwe> polpak: a gtk like what smb4k does in kde?
[07:58] <polpak> epp, if you want to msg me your email addy I'll let you know when I have something ready for testing
[07:58] <Yon> mwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error
[07:58] <Yon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6382
[07:58] <yanis_> _null: you told me to enable an option in ssh-config,do you know what is that?I cant findee it..
[07:58] <polpak> mwe, I don't know.. What does smb4k do?
[07:58] <_null> yanis_, mom
[07:58] <egil> wget gives me the error msg => WARNING: Certificate verification error for www.chant.org: unable to get local issuer certificate
[07:58] <mwe> polpak: it manages your smb mounts
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Badm4n, you want to change the $ to a # ?
[07:59] <_null> yanis_, PubkeyAuthentication yes
[07:59] <Badm4n> no
[07:59] <Badm4n> i mean the color
[07:59] <j2daosh> ok im getting sshd now
[07:59] <mac> is there some way I can diagnose where Xorg is spending its cycles?  For the past 10 minutes it's been chewing up 50% of the CPU time solid, and yet I'm not doing/displaying anything cpu-intensive...
[07:59] <polpak> mwe, ah.. yes. Esentially
[07:59] <polpak> mwe, I didn't realize someone was working on something like it already
[08:00] <coNP> mwe: with nautilus you can browse Samba, can't you?
[08:00] <Yon> mwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error
[08:00] <j2daosh> i just used the synaptic manager to install it but i dont see it in my applications list... where is it at?
[08:00] <Yon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6382
[08:00] <polpak> coNP, yes, but many programs need the smb directory mounted to the real file system rather than as a vfs share
[08:00] <Badm4n> anyone have idea about that ?
[08:00] <mwe> polpak: sounds great with a gtk app that does it though. not everyone has the kde/qt libs installed. good luck with it
[08:00] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, not all apps make a menu listing what app is it?
[08:00] <j2daosh> sshd
[08:00] <pashaw> Badm4n,   http://www2.linuxjournal.com/article/3215
[08:01] <Yon> mwe: draken hjerer, here nis the error
[08:01] <Yon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6382
[08:01] <epp> polpak, distortedvoice@gmail.com
[08:01] <trappist> egil: and what does it say right after that
[08:01] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, apt-get locate sshd should give you the path
[08:01] <j2daosh> ok
[08:01] <bobcat> hello everyone...  I got a newbie question... I accidently deleted the default gnome panel (at the top of the screen).  So, I figured out how to add a new one, but can't figure out how to make it show what processes are running like the default did on the right side???
[08:02] <j2daosh> locate isn't a valid commad fr apt-get
[08:02] <deltron> apt-cache search
[08:02] <polpak> mwe, well since the smb4k is open source it will no doubt speed up my development time
[08:02] <mwe> Yon: are you positive you configured all options in the account correctly?
[08:02] <trappist> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:02] <thoeger> bobcat: you mean the list of windows?
[08:03] <Yon> mwe, to my knowledge yes
[08:03] <Iga>  hi, could someone help me ? I upgraded Hoary towards Breezy with its cd 1hour ago, but I seem to have many problems
[08:03] <mwe> Yon: I haven't used kppp in a few years but I had it working back then
[08:03] <Yon> lots of sahit i just left because they not nin windows so i dont know wtf lol Rofl
[08:03] <gnomefreak> sorry its just locate sshd
[08:03] <gnomefreak> no apt-
[08:03] <bobcat> thoeger:  you know when you have a app running, you will get the icon on the panel showing is running.  for example, when i am running limewire, i get a limewire icon on the right side of the panel..
[08:04] <epp> sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=forum //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC
[08:04] <gnomefreak> Iga,  what kind of problems
[08:04] <Iga> for example, Open Office 2.0 seems not to have been installed
[08:04] <bobcat> actually, i am not even sure if that is really part of the panel.. i just no when i deleted the default panel, everything is gone
[08:04] <epp> polpak, i have it mounted... now how do i add it to fstab?
[08:04] <thoeger> bobcat: Ah, know what you mean - I'm running a danish locale though, gotta recall the english term for it :$
[08:04] <ossie> look whos back :)
[08:04] <gnomefreak> Iga,  you dont have openoffice in your menu?
[08:05] <mwe> Yon: it sound to me like you're using a wrong authentication method. please double check the auth method again
[08:05] <polpak> epp, you forgot to pass the uid and gid options
[08:05] <thoeger> bobcat: Yes, nothing is 'part' of the panel, a panel is just a 'board' that you can pin whatever you want to...
[08:05] <polpak> epp it will make it difficult for your normal user to modify the files
[08:05] <pashaw> !tell Iga about OOo2
[08:05] <epp> polpak, /j #intent.
[08:05] <vilefridge> Hello :) I've just installed madwifi-ng and I'm now trying to get the new 0.4.7 wpa_supplicant installed.  This is my first compile from source.. and I'm having some issues.  I'm getting this error when doing make: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:05] <vilefridge> make: *** [wpa_supplicant]  Error 1
[08:05] <vilefridge>       I have no idea what this means or how to procede.  Any clues?
[08:06] <Iga> no I don't
[08:06] <Iga> since I upgraded towards Breezy
[08:06] <Yon> mwe: i need binutils for 64 linux, for my nvidia drivers, can u help me
[08:06] <trappist> vilefridge: the useful part of the output is before that stuff
[08:06] <polpak> epp, as for fstab you just need to specify those same options, and the fstype and it should work fine
[08:06] <gnomefreak> Iga,  did you upgrade by changing the repos in sources.list file? or burn cd
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ?
[08:06] <mwe> Yon: I thought you had a dial up problem :)
[08:06] <trappist> vilefridge: very likely you just need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:07] <Yon> mwe: got two problems,  :P
[08:07] <epp> polpak, sorry to paste, but it looks like this. sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=forum //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC
[08:07] <thoeger> bobcat: right-click; add to panel, notification area...
[08:07] <gnomefreak> didnt vilefridge  just remove linux headers?
[08:07] <Yon> where can i get binutils for 64bit
[08:07] <mwe> Yon: binutils is already installed or your system would not be working
[08:07] <thoeger> bobcat: AFAIR anyway
[08:08] <vilefridge> Yeah, I just removed linux-headers.. I was following this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105437
[08:08] <yanis_> _null: I made everything as you told me but it keeps on asking for password
[08:08] <pashaw> Iga, apt-get install openoffice.org    or openoffice.org2
[08:08] <vilefridge> trappist: there's hundreds of lines of output.. what am I after?
[08:08] <bobcat> thanks... i didn't even see that one towards the bottom of the list
[08:08] <polpak> epp, not in the fstab, but that's the correct command. You should probably pass uid=epp,gid=epp also if you want to be able to modify, etc the files on the share
[08:08] <yanis_> _null: maybe I must use an option whe I run ssh client?
[08:08] <_null> hm
[08:08] <pashaw> Iga,   you can apt-cache search openoffice.org
[08:08] <Iga> gnomefreak: I used the breezy cd
[08:08] <_null> try ssh -v
[08:08] <epp> k
[08:08] <gnomefreak> pashaw, OOo is a default app it should be there
[08:09] <trappist> vilefridge: somewhere in there, probably the first error, should be something about somefile.h: no such file or directory
[08:09] <epp> polpak so do u have to add the sudo?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> breezy doesnt have OOo2 unless you add the repo
[08:09] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   she upgraded i think   didnt upgrade what she didnt have install previous maybe?
[08:09] <mwe> Yon: however, for your dial up problem, edit your account and double check the authentication method in the settings
[08:09] <ossie> hi guys, can anyone tell ne hwo to upgrade to dapper?
[08:09] <rabbit1> I've got gmail-notifier and I'd like it to run when ubuntu starts..   how  can I do that?
[08:09] <j2daosh> ok once i get ssh connected and configured (already did that) what is the command to port the gui?
[08:09] <Yon> mwe: when i try install my new nvidia drivers it says it cant use ID and its because i dont have binutils
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Iga, is that your only problem?
[08:09] <polpak> epp, no
[08:09] <Kyral> j2daosh: ssh -X
[08:09] <mwe> Yon: what's dpkg -l|grep binutils say?
[08:10] <Iga> I think there are no others
[08:10] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  in the guide in the help icon under tricks and tips will show you how
[08:10] <j2daosh> ssh -X User@Domain:22 ?
[08:10] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:10] <gnomefreak> yw rabbit1
[08:10] <Kyral> you don't need the :22
[08:10] <Badm4n> from /etc/profile whre i should put my own PS1 ? top ..bottom or somewhere ?
[08:10] <j2daosh> and that will port the gui?
[08:10] <Kyral> and you'd ahve to start each proggy manunally
[08:10] <Kyral> not the Desktop
[08:11] <j2daosh> so if i needed to use xchat to get something figured out is would work
[08:11] <epp> k
[08:11] <polpak> epp, in fstab it should just be //mainpc/iTunes /home/epp/MainPC  smbfs username=administrator,password=forum,uid=epp,gid=epp 0 0
[08:11] <Yon> mwe: it says binutils-static, and statically linked binutils tools
[08:11] <pashaw> ossie,   you sure your ready for dapper?    breezy has sent you in here alot already
[08:11] <steveO_Office> LOL
[08:11] <ossie> yes please pashaw , ehehhe
[08:11] <j2daosh> ok assuming i was at work... i ssh to my computer at home... what is the command i am gonna use to port whatever program i was to run
[08:11] <j2daosh> ?
[08:11] <vilefridge> trappist: pasted here --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6383
[08:11] <ossie> ive been back to suse and nw im back to tackle dapper
[08:11] <Yon> mwe: it says binutils-static, and statically linked binutils tools
[08:11] <mwe> Yon: well did you install build-essential?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> ossie, its no where near safe yet
[08:11] <pashaw> ossie,  i cant help you anyway i dont use testing versions      have enough to fix
[08:11] <jazwec> please i have a problem with my sound card..my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me
[08:11] <Yon> i didnt do anything
[08:11] <ossie> no problem
[08:12] <thoeger> bobcat: anytime... Good idea to address the one you're writing to though, one single message easily drowns in here :)
[08:12] <Yon> since instaLLING ubuntu
[08:12] <ossie> i dont mind if its not safe
[08:12] <ossie> im a test pilot
[08:12] <Yon> how do i install build-essential
[08:12] <mwe> Yon: get build-essential if you intend to compile anything
[08:12] <gnomefreak> i was there i came back to breezy too many things are not working
[08:12] <bobcat> ok got another newbie question...  I have always worked with windows, and needed a change.  Anyways, i built this box and loaded ubuntu on it and having fun with it...  I am thinking about getting a MAC powernotebook and just wondering am i in for a beating trying to network a MAC with a Ubuntu box...
[08:12] <ossie> gnome what did u have problems with
[08:12] <Iga> Well, what have I to do ? When I tried breezy's live cd, OO2 was installed
[08:13] <Yon> mwe: from where. can i apt-get ot ?
[08:13] <ossie> cos my main issue is my raid card that i have been told is supprted in dapper, if that works smotthly then im sorted
[08:13] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: where's tips and tricks : S
[08:13] <mwe> Yon: yeah. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:13] <thoeger> bobcat: I havent tried, but in theory it shouldn't be hard -
[08:13] <pashaw> j2daosh,    google those guides  they will explain everything   with screenshots on some
[08:13] <axisys> any good app on accounting?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> first off upgrade wont work off bat you have to use breezy locales than upgrade the locales to dapper thats just one
[08:13] <j2daosh> Kyral, what would i have to do? ssh to the box... type xterm... then load up xchat?
[08:13] <mwe> Yon: it'll provide compiler, linker, etc.
[08:13] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  one sec let me bring it up
[08:13] <Badm4n> from /etc/profile whre i should put my own PS1 ? top ..bottom or somewhere ? ...
[08:13] <j2daosh> ok ill give that a shot pashaw
[08:14] <gnomefreak> gnome panel crashes in dapper
[08:14] <ossie> apt-get gnomefreak what u mean locales??
[08:14] <axisys> i like to collect my bank statements and like to feed them to a accounting app and like to generate some graphs, trends
[08:14] <pashaw> Badm4n,   read that guide i gave you
[08:14] <Kyral> jdier: you'd just type "XChat"
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ossie,  you see my point now?
[08:14] <mwe> Yon: however, you need to use the same compiler version that your kernel was built with
[08:14] <axisys> i already have the bank statements but now looking for a good accounting app
[08:14] <gnomefreak> its in alpha stage not testing stage
[08:14] <ossie> yes, but i wanna have a crack at it gnomefreak
[08:14] <mwe> Yon: did you read the nvidia wiki?
[08:14] <ossie> what do i need to do ?
[08:15] <thoeger> bobcat: How would you do the networking you mean?
[08:15] <bobcat> thoeger:  Yea, that is what I am thinking... But I think I am going to brush up on my networking skills with Linux before conquering that one - :)
[08:15] <mwe> !tell Yon about nvidia
[08:15] <gnomefreak> ossie,  than my advice to you would be to burn the iso for it
[08:15] <vilefridge> trappist: pasted here --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6383
[08:15] <pashaw> ossie,   my advice is your not ready for a broekn version
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ossie, the locales problem happens right off bat if you dont know what they are you cant fix it
[08:16] <thoeger> bobcat: great idea. I'm running breezy on my iBook myself... That's another challenge for you! ;-)
[08:16] <ossie> yes , but this version is broken from my point of view cos i cant use a major bit of my comp, my 4 ide harddrives, know what i mean?
[08:16] <bobcat> thoeger:  Ideally I would like to have the linux box as just a big file server.  So, I would want to save files from the MAC onto it..  Also, I think it would be cool if i could remote to the linux box from the mac....
[08:16] <ossie> ok gnomefreak
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ossie,  and you think that dapper is gonna help that?
[08:17] <ossie> if its one of them situations ill skip it
[08:17] <ossie> yes dapper has the driver built in for my ide drives
[08:17] <bobcat> thoeger:  so you have a dual boot on the ibook
[08:17] <antdengineer> whats the command to switch the system defualt JRE?
[08:17] <pashaw> axisys,   thats a very general question your better off using google for    linux accounting
[08:17] <kemik> bobcat:  use samba
[08:17] <kemik> ?
[08:17] <thoeger> bobcat: yup
[08:17] <ossie> ok gnomefreak
[08:17] <Yon> mwe: no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel, can u plz help me bru
[08:17] <gnomefreak> ossie,  have you tried the backports to dapper instead?
[08:17] <mwe> Yon: did you read the nvidia wiki?
[08:17] <axisys> looks like gnu cash is one to try
[08:17] <_null> yanis_, does it work?
[08:17] <axisys> pashaw: thnx
[08:17] <antdengineer> where is shows a menu of JREs
[08:17] <Yon> errpl z help me
[08:17] <Yon> !nvidia
[08:17] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:17] <antdengineer> and you choose one
[08:18] <thoeger> bobcat: running Mac-on-Linux somtimes... not often though, it usually takes too long to boot to bother
[08:18] <Badm4n> pashaw : i did
[08:18] <mwe> Yon: please read that
[08:18] <ossie> gnomefreak, how does that work
[08:18] <Badm4n> but i can find out where i must put it on
[08:18] <Yon> mwe: come on dude, its like 1200 paghes
[08:18] <mwe> Yon: or I'll basically be quoting it anyway
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ossie about sources
[08:18] <Yon> quoting is fine
[08:18] <mwe> Yon: um what are you talking about
[08:18] <polpak> mwe, odd
[08:18] <ossie> cheers gnomefreak
[08:19] <mwe> Yon: it's easier for you to read it that for me to retype it here
[08:19] <yanis_> _null: no it doesnt. is it necessary the two users (server &client) have the same name?
[08:19] <polpak> mwe, I was looking at smb4k, but it doesn't seem to work right
[08:19] <Malachi> How can I connect to a Windows network through VMWare?
[08:19] <Yon> mwe: im using kubuntu, i dont have the menus thwey talk of
[08:19] <gnomefreak> ossie,  i would advise you not to go with dapper for a few more months
[08:19] <_null> yanis_, no, if you ssh -l with the correct username, it should work
[08:19] <antdengineer> well then how does one just change the defualt JRE?
[08:19] <Malachi> I can use Samba to connect to my host, but not to my host's network.
[08:19] <ossie> ok cheers gnomefreak
[08:19] <mwe> polpak: really? it works here. I compiled the cvs version myself though, but IIRC the ubuntu version worked too
[08:20] <hackeron> if I install ubuntu 5.04, can I easily upgrade to 5.10?
[08:20] <trappist> vilefridge: sorry, you also need these: http://ieee80211.sf.net
[08:20] <polpak> mwe, it can't mount stuff because it says smbmount needs to be suid, but when I set it suid smbmount complains that it wont run if the program is suid
[08:20] <bobcat> thoeger:  I see..  Well, i added ubuntu on my brothers pc running windows xp..  And we just partitioned the drive, created free space for the linux side, and that was pretty easy..  So, I would hope doing the dual boat on a Mac would be just as easy, but I have no experience with Macs... Just want to play around with one...  People say once you have one, you never go back
[08:20] <gnomefreak> ossie, also if you go to packages.ubuntu.com and look in the backports section it will tell you if your drivers are there
[08:20] <j2daosh> ok
[08:20] <thoeger> antdengineer: what do you mean by defaoult?
[08:20] <j2daosh> it isn't working
[08:20] <j2daosh> i cant seem to connect to my box
[08:20] <pashaw> Badm4n,   reasd the 5th paragraph    this area> modify the ~/.bashrc file by adding the new definition of PS1
[08:20] <polpak> mwe, in the first case smb4k complains that smbmount isn't suid
[08:20] <j2daosh> im using freenx... when i try to tonnect it gets pass the first encryption but then fails on the sec
[08:20] <polpak> mwe, in the second smbmount complains that it is itself suid
[08:21] <superchode|fu> hey guys. i had a working X window going on my windows box running a gnome-session from the ubuntu box. i closed it so i could resize it and add scrollbars, etc. - but now i can't launch a new gnome-session? any idea why that might be?
[08:21] <j2daosh> do i need to make a different dsa/rsa key?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> to reconfig java that ubuntu uses sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:21] <pashaw> Malachi,   thats a VMWare forum question  not Ubuntu  :(
[08:21] <yanis_> _null: do you have any ide what can be wrong?
[08:21] <mwe> Yon: it's telling you how to enable the restricted repos
[08:21] <hackeron> anyone? if I install ubuntu 5.04, can I easily upgrade to 5.10?
[08:21] <polpak> mwe, the only way around it its to run smb4k as root (with gksudo smb4k) but that in turn causes the mounted files to be in roots home directory
[08:21] <polpak> mwe, which is not desirable either
[08:22] <Malachi> pashaw: I'm sorry.
[08:22] <steveO_Office> hackeron, y not just install 5.10?
[08:22] <thoeger> bobcat:  If the choice is Win and OS X; you're perfectly right.
[08:22] <_null> yanis_, no sorry. can you create a user for me?
[08:22] <hackeron> steveO_Office: friend is over, downloading 5.10 will take hours
[08:22] <Badm4n> yes i saw that pashaw .... but i mean for all user... did i must put all it one by one ?
[08:22] <pashaw> hackeron,   rather poijntless to install and old one  then upgrade   just install the newer one
[08:22] <rabbit1> psst  gnomefreak, tips and tricks?
[08:22] <ossie> pashaw, how long u been on ubuntu?
[08:22] <polpak> mwe, What I was planning to do for the gtk app was have the app run via sudo but mount/umount everything to the SUDO_USERNAME users home dir
[08:22] <j2daosh> ok...
[08:22] <mwe> Yon: do you have restricted in /etc/apt/sources.list? eg the word 'restricted' following the archieve you're using
[08:22] <yanis_> _null: ok
[08:22] <polpak> mwe, which will solve those problems
[08:23] <j2daosh> it is failing at the pub auth... how do i fix that?
[08:23] <pashaw> ossie,    debian hmm 8-9 years  Ubuntu  hmm  few months
[08:23] <Yon> mwe: wat are u talking about
[08:23] <mwe> polpak: I set the files suid root as it recommends
[08:23] <hackeron> pashaw: friend came over unexpectedly, only have 5.04 and downloading 5.10 will take hours. If its easy to upgrade he can do that at home
[08:23] <ossie> cool,
[08:23] <Yon> mwe: i downloaded these nvidia drivers seprate
[08:23] <steveO_Office> hackeron, yon can do a up grade but that to will take you hrs for you will need to change your source list and ect.
[08:23] <thoeger> bobcat: There are some trouble running linux on the Mac though - but hopefully they will be history once the Macintels are out...
[08:23] <pashaw> !tell hackeron about breezy
[08:23] <pashaw> hackeron,  fair enough
[08:23] <Smoked1> What xwindows system do you guys suggest? I usually use command line.
[08:24] <mwe> Yon: you shouldn't or you'll get a lot more trouble than you need
[08:24] <hackeron> pashaw: thanks :)
[08:24] <bobcat> thoeger:  do you know when they are suppose to be releasing those
[08:24] <j2daosh> anyone?
[08:24] <trappist> hackeron: do I remember you from #mandrake from years ago?
[08:24] <Yon> waty u mean risttied
[08:24] <steveO_Office> hackeron, are you on high speed?
[08:24] <mwe> Yon: I'm talking about /etc/apt/sources.list like I said
[08:24] <thoeger> Nope - everyone on the Mac forums are guessing wildly....
[08:24] <steveO_Office> it only taks me 20 mins to down load
[08:24] <thoeger> that was to bobcat
[08:24] <hackeron> trappist: last I've been there was many years ago :)
[08:25] <Yon> mwe: wat mustnt be restricted
[08:25] <hackeron> steveO_Office: well, I'm on 1mb, he's on 2mb at home
[08:25] <bobcat> thoeger:  i was waiting for the G5 on the notebooks, but that hasn't come out yet... Starting to get impatient...:)
[08:25] <steveO_Office> WOW that sucks I would wait for the 5.10
[08:25] <mwe> Yon: please look at that file in your favorite editor using sudo. eg sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <hackeron> steveO_Office: hmm, ok -- now to find a way to entertain him for a while, lol
[08:26] <thoeger> bobcat: Apple are very secretive about it. They sue the guts out of anyone with rumours coming too close to the truth if the news get out just one day in advance
[08:26] <polpak> mwe, I did that, but then even if I run smbmount manually it says
[08:26] <polpak> mwe, /usr/bin/smbmount //terran/chads /home/chads/Desktop/chads-terran/ -o username=chads
[08:26] <mwe> Yon: then tell me if the word restricted is present somewhere after your ubuntu mirror url
[08:26] <polpak> mwe, libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[08:26] <jazwec> please i have a problem with my sound card..my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me
[08:27] <thoeger> bobcat: Everyone got impatient. IBM's lacking ability to get temperature down on the G5's was one of the main reasons Apple switched to Intel CPUs
[08:27] <steveO_Office> LOL
[08:27] <pashaw> Badm4n,   read this also http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=169504&seqNum=12&rl=1
[08:27] <Yon> mwe: some things are restricted
[08:27] <j2daosh> anyone in here use freenx and ever had a problem with publickey authentication failing?
[08:27] <mwe> polpak: my smbmount is not suid
[08:27] <polpak> mwe, oh.. you mean that smb4k is suid?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> rabbit1, #3 in the tips and tricks section
[08:27] <Tappad> Hi, noobie question... Is there any way to make the "Archive manager" to work with .rar-files?
[08:27] <mwe> polpak: no smbmnt
[08:28] <mwe> polpak: not smbmount
[08:28] <rubem> file:///mnt/e/opaweb/WEB-INF/lib/jstl.jar
[08:28] <rubem> file:///mnt/e/opaweb/WEB-INF/lib/standard.jar
[08:28] <rubem> opws...
[08:28] <rubem> how can a make a read-only file writable?
[08:28] <Yon> mwe: some things are restricted
[08:28] <gnomefreak> gedit
[08:28] <j2daosh> anyone?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> dksudo or sudo
[08:28] <coNP> rubem: for you or foll anyone?
[08:28] <mwe> Yon: please paste your sources.list at pastebin
[08:28] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: where's the tips and tricks section?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> #3
[08:28] <Yon> its not another computer mwe
[08:28] <rubem> coNP for me...
[08:29] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  your on breezy?
[08:29] <rabbit1> gnomefreak:  yeah, I click on the life raft?
[08:29] <rabbit1> thingy..
[08:29] <coNP> rubem: command line or nautilus?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> yeah than the guide than the tips and tricks
[08:29] <jazwec> please could anybody help me with sound blaster audigy 2 zs?
[08:29] <j2daosh> Kyral, u still here?
[08:29] <Badm4n> done
[08:29] <rubem> konqueror
[08:29] <rubem> coNP konqueror
[08:29] <egil> wget gives me the error msg => WARNING: Certificate verification error for www.chant.org: unable to get local issuer certificate
[08:29] <gunfus> hell
[08:29] <gunfus> oo
[08:29] <gunfus> I meant hello
[08:29] <Badm4n> thx
[08:30] <gunfus> not hell
[08:30] <gunfus> ops
[08:30] <Tappad> please? it's impossible?
[08:30] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: sweet!
[08:30] <mwe> Yon: what do you mean it's not another computer?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> you got it?
[08:30] <trappist> egil: dammit man.  what does it say right after that.
[08:30] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   please  type the username your helping
[08:30] <coNP> rubem: right click on file (/folder) and permissions tab
[08:30] <Yon> im on my windows computer, linux is next to me
[08:30] <Happuf> Some here knows why ubuntus diskmanager sets root acces to NTFS partition?
[08:30] <mwe> Yon: I want to look at your sources.list
[08:30] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  you go tit?
[08:30] <Happuf> I cant change them afterwards.
[08:30] <pashaw> Badm4n,   now your a Bash pro  :)
[08:30] <gnomefreak> rabbit you got it*?
[08:31] <j2daosh> how do i make my public key not fail using freenx????
[08:31] <Yon> mwe: all i got uncommented it breezy-updates, and they are restricted
[08:31] <gunfus> hey guys, I justdid a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution
[08:31] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: yeah :P
[08:31] <gunfus> any suggesitosn?
[08:31] <egil> trappist: I lost your message... could  you please copy-paste it ? (someone came to talk with me... i'm sorry)
[08:31] <pashaw> Happuf,    you can set user read to ntfs  but  not write    that what you want
[08:31] <gunfus> 323
[08:31] <polpak> mwe, ah.. I have it now
[08:31] <Happuf> pashaw: tell me how. I have tried.
[08:31] <Yon> mwe: all i got uncommented it breezy-updates, and they are restricted
[08:32] <trappist> egil: I said, what does it say right after what you pasted
[08:32] <pashaw> !tell Happuf about ntfs
[08:32] <mwe> Yon: do you have a line that says deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted or something like that, the word restricted being the important one
[08:32] <Badm4n> ty pplz
[08:32] <Yon> i nhave one with restricted, but its commented ( not in use ### )
[08:32] <mwe> polpak: good. you need to set smbumount suid root as well
[08:32] <Tappad> need help with extracting .rar's.. please
[08:32] <pashaw> Happuf,   scroll down to this section    "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table"
[08:32] <Happuf> pashaw: happu wants to thank you :)
[08:33] <gunfus> any suggesitosn?
[08:33] <gunfus> hey guys, I justdid a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution
[08:33] <pashaw> Happuf,    replace the fstab    ntfs line  "defaults"  to     those line lines like "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[08:33] <mwe> Yon: don't copy the line I pasted verbatim into your sources.list though
[08:34] <Happuf> pashaw: I dont have it fstab.
[08:34] <polpak> mwe, excellent. Not only does this solve my immediate problems, but it will make it much easier to develop the gtk version =p
[08:34] <Happuf> pashaw: I used diskmanager.
[08:34] <Yon> i nhave one with restricted, but its commented ( not in use ### )
[08:34] <j2daosh> anyone.... ssh help please and thank you
[08:34] <Unity> what is the safest way of taking smbd off the startup?
[08:34] <Happuf> pashaw: but I'll try that script.
[08:34] <egil> trappist: it downloads the file and then, no prompt anymore, that's actually my pb
[08:34] <Yon> must backports be no ## ?
[08:34] <mwe> Yon: yeah. type restricted at the end of the line containg your favorite archieve
[08:34] <Tappad> no help here..
[08:35] <trappist> egil: use --no-check-certificate
[08:35] <polpak> mwe, ideally I think this should be built into nautellus
[08:35] <gunfus> noone has suggestions..?!
[08:35] <Happuf> pashaw: oh. I'll try what you succested.
[08:35] <pashaw> gunfus,   repeating wont help   wait a few minutes       if nobody answers   try again
[08:35] <pashaw> Happuf, :)
[08:35] <egil> trappist: i tried it, but with the same result
[08:35] <Yon> mwe : im using breezy-updates and it is restricted and MAIN
[08:36] <Happuf> pashaw: the script was not availbe anymore ;)
[08:36] <trappist> egil: oh.  also, put single quotes around the url
[08:36] <pashaw> Happuf,   you added a new drive since installing ubuntu?
[08:36] <_TomB> anyone here used upower?
[08:36] <egil> trappist: you're great!! thanks a lot!
[08:36] <thoeger> gunfus: Sorry; no. My configuration worked fine...
[08:36] <Happuf> pashaw: nope. It just didnt automount for some reason.
[08:36] <mwe> Yon: you should have a line that says 'deb http://SOMEARCHIVE.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:37] <mwe> Yon: and possible some other keywords in the end
[08:37] <pashaw> Happuf,    type   cat /etc/fstab   there are no ntfs lines?
[08:37] <Yon> must that be with no ###
[08:37] <gunfus> thoeger, thanks for at least replying
[08:37] <mwe> Yon: right
[08:37] <sorush20> hi guys
[08:37] <Happuf> pashaw: nope.
[08:37] <rabbit1> I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are
[08:37] <Yon> omj
[08:37] <Yon> i remopved the #
[08:37] <Yon> wat now
[08:38] <gunfus> anyone else.. has suggestions about what to do..? for my xconfig
[08:38] <mwe> Yon: the ones with # in front count as comments and apt wont read them
[08:38] <gunfus> my experience with ubuntus.. has not really been the greatest
[08:38] <gunfus> so far
[08:38] <gunfus> I understand I am not the only one with prbolems
[08:38] <Yon> ok mwe
[08:38] <dooglus> "locate" is dumping core for me.  how would I go about building a debuggable version?
[08:38] <thoeger> gunfus: That is true
[08:38] <Yon> so must i know apt-get update again ?
[08:38] <gunfus> I am just one more frustrated user.. that needs help
[08:39] <mwe> Yon: yeah. and this is probably too late now, but you should have backed up the original first, just in case. do that now
[08:39] <j2daosh> anyone familiar with freenx and ssh?
[08:39] <Yon> i know how to make it go back
[08:40] <Yon> so wat now,. after thisd update must i run the nvidia install AHGAIN ?
[08:40] <cmatheson> !tell j2daosh about anyone
[08:40] <mwe> Yon: you must do what the wiki says. let me have a look and quote it for you
[08:40] <gunfus> help..?! I just did a 'dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected to have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1200 but when gnome comes up it doesn't show me the options for that screen resolution
[08:40] <mwe> Yon: first what card do you have?
[08:41] <gunfus> redguy, you there man?
[08:41] <gunfus> 3
[08:41] <j2daosh> im aware of that cm... but when i ask no one answers...so that is why i figured id start with does anyone because then it will get someone attention
[08:41] <j2daosh> assuming they know what im talking about
[08:42] <Yon> geforce 6600 gt
[08:42] <cmatheson> j2daosh: maybe you should rephrase your question instead
[08:42] <pashaw> Happuf,    keep reading      youll have to do it manually  youll learn alot tho  "Mounting partitions manually
[08:42] <pashaw> "
[08:42] <Happuf> OK.
[08:42] <Happuf> That sucks i guess.. but :D
[08:42] <mwe> Yon: I'm looking at line 9 of the wiki. let me cut and paste. just a second
[08:42] <j2daosh> cmatheson, i dont know any of way to rephrase it... i cant get freenx to connect to my box because it fails at the public auth...
[08:43] <mwe> Yon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx
[08:43] <j2daosh> so im gonna need someone with a general knowledge of both ssh and freenx
[08:43] <j2daosh> hence the is anyone familiar with ssh and freenx question
[08:43] <pashaw> gunfus,   your card and monitor support that res. you can force it manually
[08:44] <gunfus> pashaw, yes it does..
[08:44] <cmatheson> j2daosh: first of all, you're being too vague, and second of all, this isn't the right channel for freenx questions
[08:44] <gunfus> pashaw, how can I force it?
[08:44] <gnomefreak> !freenx
[08:44] <ubotu> freenx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:44] <pashaw> gunfus,   ill make a pastebin showing how
[08:44] <Yon> ok its downloading
[08:45] <gunfus> pashaw, thanks..!
[08:45] <mwe> Yon: goo. In the meantime tell me what you get from 'dpkg -l|grep linux-image
[08:46] <jazwec> please I have Ubuntu 5.10 and i have a problem with my sound card...its Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro and my alsamixer thinks that my LineIn1 is LineIn2 =) could anybody help me
[08:46] <Yon> wee mwe: i cant, im doing all of this in pure console
[08:46] <dyngnosis_> Wow .. huge chan.   a quick question.... I am doing some research on exploit development.  I am overflowing a stack and causing a seg fault.  ...it should core dump but no file is created.. I need to analyze it in gdb.. is there an "option" turned off or am I looking in the wrong spot?
[08:46] <mwe> !sound
[08:46] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:46] <mwe> jazwec: read that please
[08:46] <rev> can anyone help me with dpkg? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6385  this seems not healthy to me :(
[08:46] <Joe4> ok guys, I couldnt find my nic or any drivers for it, so i plugged into my dsl modem through usb, how do i configure it now?
[08:47] <j2daosh> yeah gnomefreak, that link didn't help
[08:47] <j2daosh> im having problems going from windows using freenx to linux server
[08:47] <mwe> Yon: press alt-f2 and you get a new one
[08:47] <Yon> mwe: ITS DONE
[08:47] <rabbit1> I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are
[08:47] <mwe> Yon: good
[08:47] <mwe> Yon: now tell me what you get from 'dpkg -l|grep linux-image'
[08:47] <cmatheson> rev: did you delete apt?
[08:48] <rev> cmatheson: no I didn't delete anything
[08:48] <Joe4> how do i set up a usb to dsl modem connection?
[08:48] <cmatheson> rev: it says there are a bunch of missing files~do they really exist?
[08:48] <iveqy> hi, I've got a printer problem. I'd add the printer, but when trying to print a testpage I got: ** (gnome-cups-manager:5482): WARNING **: failed request with status 200
[08:48] <mwe> rev: please paste the error again, preceding your commands with LANGUAGE=C
[08:49] <dyngnosis_> Anyone know why I don't get a core file dumped when I get a seg fault?
[08:49] <cmatheson> Joe4: i think you'll have more luck if you go w/ the ethernet connection if it has one
[08:49] <Joe4> no drivers for my cared
[08:49] <Joe4> card*
[08:49] <Yon> mwe: linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic   2.6.12-9.23
[08:49] <globe> Can I get some help configuring my eth0 ? I can ping my router but any commands that require a nameserver fail.
[08:49] <mwe> Yon: amd64?
[08:49] <Yon> and linux kernal image for version 2.6.12 on  x86
[08:49] <ossie> anyone use the phillips psc724 soun card
[08:49] <cmatheson> globe: are your nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:49] <Yon> yes mwe ?
[08:50] <Joe4> so has does anyone know how to configure my internet when im going through usb?
[08:50] <ossie> gnome freak , any ideas why i get Failed to construct test pieline in the mutlimedia systems selector
[08:50] <cmatheson> Joe4: i doubt it's possible right now, but i could be wrong.. you'd be much better off sticking a NIC in there
[08:50] <rev> cmatheson: I get nearly the same missing files showed by strace when I install curl on my notebook but it succeeds
[08:50] <rabbit1> I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these things are
[08:50] <mwe> Yon: I have no idea how to do it on amd64. the wiki doesn't cover that. I don't know if it works just following it anyway. btw is X working at all by now?
[08:50] <globe> cmatheson: I dont know. And I cant check at the moment .... I had to load win to get in this channel. Do I need to add my local network ns to that file?
[08:51] <Joe4> damn
[08:51] <Yon> mwe: its the same thing with amd64
[08:51] <Yon> dont worry
[08:51] <cmatheson> globe: yes, just use whatever nameserver's the other boxen on the network are using
[08:51] <pashaw> gunfus,   here  reasd this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6386
[08:51] <cmatheson> globe: it should be getting that info from DHCP, but it's possible you have a broken DHCP server or something
[08:51] <gunfus> pashaw, taking a look
[08:52] <mwe> Yon: cross your fingers
[08:52] <globe> cmatheson: I couldnt figure out how to get the nic to fetch an address from the dhcp, so I manually config the nic w/ifconfig.
[08:52] <mwe> Yon: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[08:52] <rev> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6387
[08:52] <Joe4> you know , my computer doesnt find my nic, yet it sees a hub , wich i guess is my dsl modem, but isnt that through my nic, theirfore it find my nic?
[08:52] <blunted> hey is there a way to remove all the .gz files in a directory without having to do them one by one?
[08:52] <mwe> Yon: no
[08:52] <Unity>  if i want smbd and nmbd not to start up, i just remove the samba script from /etc/rc2.d?
[08:52] <mwe> Yon: that was wrong thats for amd k7
[08:53] <dyngnosis_> globe, sudo dhclient eth0
[08:53] <gunfus> pashaw, Thanks.. I will give that a try right now..
[08:53] <dyngnosis_> or ath0
[08:53] <cmatheson> globe: ooooh, ok, yeah then you'll just need to add your nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf and it will work
[08:53] <Yon> mwe ?
[08:53] <globe> blunted: you should be able to "rm *.gz -f"
[08:53] <gunfus> pashaw, one more question if I want to install Enlightenment or KDE once I already have ubuntu.. is that possible?
[08:53] <cmatheson> globe: you'll also want to edit /etc/network/interfaces so that you don't have to do this every time you boot up
[08:53] <mwe> Yon: you have an amd64, right?
[08:53] <jazwec> mwe but there is no solution for my problem..i just have to change line in1 for line in2 in my system or something like that
[08:53] <pashaw> gunfus,    ok   make sure you backup  the xorg.conf before you bgin   so you can go back if X wont start i forgot that part
[08:53] <Yon> yes mwe
[08:53] <blunted> lol i so just almost deleted everything in my home messing with rm :D
[08:54] <dyngnosis_> does anyone know why I don't get a core file dumped when I get a seg fault? ... is there an option I need to turn on?
[08:54] <pashaw> gunfus,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <globe> cmatheson: I am remembering now that the /etc/resolv.conf file didnt exist....should I create it?
[08:54] <cmatheson> globe: yes
[08:54] <mwe> Yon: then you can't follow the wiki because the restricted modules are not provided for amd64
[08:54] <dyngnosis_> hah, are my messages even hitting the chan? or am I being ignored?
[08:54] <jt3k> dyngnosis i read you
[08:54] <Yon> dude, there is no way they are mpt prvoided, we just need the right name
[08:54] <rev> I need dpkg :(
[08:54] <dyngnosis_> hah, ok man.. thanks.. I dont mean to be impatitent... i just went to an internet cafe to ask this question heh
[08:54] <jt3k> i think you have to enable debugging at compiling
[08:54] <epp> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins... when i try to play a video it says this...
[08:55] <globe> cmatheson: thx. I am going to go try that....
[08:55] <mwe> Yon: dude they're not. go check with apt-cache search restricted-modules yourself
[08:55] <pashaw> dyngnosis_,   if someone knows they are busy  or they dont understand your question like me :P
[08:55] <dyngnosis_> jt3k, ok, I'll google that.  at least its a place to start.
[08:55] <jt3k> have you done that
[08:55] <j2daosh> ok... easier question... how do i shared my "shared folder" with a windows system?
[08:55] <bk> has anyone ever heard of problems with the time changing in Windows for a dual-boot system (Windows & Ubuntu)?
[08:55] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: yes, you will need to turn something on for core dumps... a quick google would be appropriate in this instance
[08:55] <j2daosh> i set it up for smb
[08:55] <jt3k> you have to compile your programs with the "-g" flag
[08:55] <j2daosh> but my windows box wont recognize it
[08:55] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, I wasnt sure what to google for.. core dump ubuntu yielded nothing interesting
[08:55] <jt3k> and do some other stuff that i don't remember right now
[08:56] <bk> jt3k, u talking to me?
[08:56] <dyngnosis_> cool.. I've got a place to start now.. thanks man
[08:56] <Yon> mwe, so how am i going to do this
[08:56] <mwe> Yon: I have no idea
[08:56] <mwe> Yon: probably compile the module yourself. go search the forums
[08:56] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: try 'enable linux core dump'
[08:56] <pashaw> bk,   either your bois battery is reseting the time  or you have the wrong time zones set for Ubuntu or windows
[08:56] <gunfus> pashaw, cool thanks.. I will try does.. and backup my xorg.conf
[08:57] <_Nightwish_> hi all!
[08:57] <Harimwakairi> If I might ask a noob question, what IRC client do most of y'all use?
[08:57] <pashaw> gunfus,   good luck
[08:57] <St-> hi, dapper current (daily build) has this old bug(29/11/05) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20216 why ?
[08:57] <_Nightwish_> i need help
[08:57] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, no luck .. got a bunch of bash shell errors
[08:57] <pashaw> Harimwakairi,   using xchat
[08:57] <j2daosh> !ubotu tell j2daosh about sharing with samba
[08:57] <dyngnosis_> oh, lol. .your suggesting google terms
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> *blush(
[08:58] <thoeger> _Nightwish_: Bring it on....
[08:58] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: it's the first one on the list
[08:58] <thoeger> Harimwakairi: XChat....
[08:58] <_Nightwish_> how to compile intel driver on ubuntu?
[08:58] <_Nightwish_> when i type make klean
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, got it.. reading now.. you're awesome
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> thanks so much
[08:59] <thoeger> _Nightwish_:  intel driver?
[08:59] <pashaw> _Nightwish_,   intel for what kind of device
[08:59] <Harimwakairi> pashaw, thoeger: thanks.  That's what I'm using now because it came pre-installed.
[08:59] <rabbit1> I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these programs are
[08:59] <pashaw> Harimwakairi,   it works just dandy
[08:59] <gnomefreak> anyone in here using kubuntu-desktop and have issues with apps loading?
[08:59] <thoeger> Harimwakairi: Sammer here... :)
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> modem
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> 536Ep
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> yea i still have dial-up :(
[08:59] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[08:59] <lucasvo> anyone know what's wrong?
[09:00] <scaine> rabbit1, what version are you running?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine:  breezy
[09:00] <epp> how do i add like universe so my apt?
[09:00] <mwe> !universe
[09:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:00] <thoeger> _Nightwish_:  What is your problem? What have you tried, and what errrors did you get?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine: should I keep programs on here up to date??
[09:00] <Yon> can sum 1 help me about setting up the internet, does any1 know wat a pppt error is?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine:  or just the ones I care about?
[09:00] <epp> how do i add like universe so my apt?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  yes it is advised
[09:00] <scaine> They should just be security updates then.  Unless you added Backports repo, in which case you'll be getting new versions of your currently installed programs.
[09:01] <scaine> Can you remember what repos you added?
[09:01] <mwe> Yon: like I said two times, check your auth method in kppp
[09:01] <thoeger> epp: easiest in Synaptic
[09:01] <pashaw> lucasvo,   looks like you messed with your fonts?
[09:01] <epp> k
[09:01] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: okay
[09:01] <Yon> mwe :we have tryed all of them
[09:02] <mwe> Yon: anyway, since you're probably to lazy to search the forums, here's a link for the nvidia driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[09:02] <epp> thoeger, whats the adress for it?
[09:02] <scaine> lucasvo, are you running Dapper?  It has a Locale issue at the moment that screws up the language pack?
[09:03] <thoeger> Well, got a little problem, hope you'll be patient.....
[09:03] <thoeger> epp
[09:03] <lucasvo> lucasvo: yes I am
[09:03] <pashaw> epp, you just want to add universe and multiverse?
[09:04] <mwe> Yon: I can't help you about being to lazy to read, though
[09:04] <robotgeek> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is enuf to force compilation with gcc-3.4 ?
[09:04] <lucasvo> scaine: yes I am
[09:04] <Yon> mwe : bru im talking about internet not the graphics
[09:04] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, look on bugzilla there is a fix for it
[09:04] <epp> nevermind
[09:04] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: oh, thanks
[09:04] <scaine> lucasvo, you should read this :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108442
[09:04] <mwe> Yon: um I just tried to help you with nvidia drivers before
[09:04] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, you have to install breezys locales than update them to dappers
[09:05] <gnomefreak> mwe, you have kubuntu-desktop right?
[09:05] <Yon> mwe : now draken is reinstalling linux noramal not 64
[09:05] <scaine> gnomefreak, The link on the Dapper dev forum outlines an easier way...
[09:05] <Yon> mwe : now im trying to get the internet to work
[09:05] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   i do on my home system
[09:05] <gnomefreak> scaine, ok ty i didnt know about that one
[09:05] <ossie> gnomefreak, do u know if my sound card has been detected by alsa , and says alsa cntrolled devicedoes that mean its installed?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> does kdevelop work under kubuntu 3.5 pashaw ?
[09:05] <lucasvo> SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 1
[09:06] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   doh  got me there
[09:06] <lucasvo> scaine: first error I get: mv: cannot stat `/etc/locale.gen': No such file or directory
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ossie, im not sitting there looking did you try running lspci or lsmod?
[09:06] <scaine> lucasvo, Heh - there's a link about that too - give me a minute and I'll get it for you...
[09:07] <mwe> gnomefreak: I have kubuntu, why?
[09:07] <ossie> it is listed under lspci
[09:07] <pashaw> ossie,   you using dapper?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> mwe,  kdevelop isnt launching on 3.5 is that a issue or is it just mine?
[09:07] <ossie> no , breezy
[09:07] <lucasvo> scaine: thanks
[09:07] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh. it works here
[09:07] <geneo93> whos the networking guru
[09:07] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, once again -- thanks so much.  I've used ulimit -c unlimited and it has enabled core dumps for the session.  cheers.
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ossie,  do you have sound?
[09:08] <pashaw> ossie,   lsmod  will tell you if and what module is loaded
[09:08] <ossie> no
[09:08] <gnomefreak> :( mwe
[09:08] <globe> can I get some help configuring X?  "fatal error: no screens found"
[09:08] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: great, party on
[09:08] <ossie> lsmod lists my sound card
[09:08] <pashaw> ossie,   is it using the correct module?
[09:08] <ossie> under device manager it says , alsa controlled deive and i shows n alsa mixer
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ossie,  make sure its not mutted and they are turned up a lilbit
[09:08] <mwe> gnomefreak: what's the error you get if you lanch it from a console?
[09:09] <ossie> done that gnomefreak
[09:09] <ossie> but not getting any sound
[09:09] <cyphase> Mark Shuttleworth's picture is on page A4 of the San Franciscio Chronice today
[09:09] <cyphase> lol
[09:09] <gnomefreak> cannot launch entry: details failed to execute child process kdevelop no such file/dir
[09:09] <gnomefreak> mwe ^^
[09:09] <mwe> gnomefreak: some packages are broken as in not installing all dependencies. I was wondering if that could be the problem
[09:09] <pinkisntwell> why don't we have ff 1.5 at the repos?
[09:09] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh
[09:09] <cyphase> a story about the new space tourism rules
[09:10] <ossie> when i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline
[09:10] <Chousuke> pinkisntwell: It was released after Ubuntu 5.10.
[09:10] <cyphase> no mention of ubuntu unfourtanetly :P
[09:10] <gnomefreak> mwe i just ran sudo apt-get install kdevelop said it was replaced so im installing those packages
[09:10] <pashaw> globe,    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:10] <pinkisntwell> Chousuke: and?
[09:10] <trappist> pinkisntwell: new versions of software don't usually go into stable distros.  they backport security patches and bugfixes and put the new software into the upcoming distro (dapper in this case)
[09:10] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  its not all that stable for ubuntu yet look for it in the backports in febuaryish
[09:10] <pashaw> !tell pinkisntwell about firefox1.5
[09:11] <scaine> lucasvo, gnomefreak , Apologies to Gnomefreak - here's the link I found.  If you don't have an /etc/locale.gen file, then you'll possibly need to copy from Breezy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978&page=2.  On the other hand, since it's just asking for a backup to be taken, you might want to ignore the mv command in my original post and try installing locales again, followed by the rest of the doc.
[09:11] <mwe> gnomefreak: maybe ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop ? It works with the multelanguage version here though
[09:11] <scaine> Pretty disappointing if you don't have access to a Breezy install though, eh?
[09:11] <sambaseeker> how do  register nick name?
[09:11] <pinkisntwell> thanks people
[09:11] <mwe> gnomefreak: I seem to remember having to make that link in a previous version
[09:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sambaseeker about register
[09:11] <Syche>  gnomefreak Kdevelop Multilanguage works
[09:12] <pinkisntwell> also, I have another problem, I installed xfce and it works well, but I can't switch keyboard language, how do I do that?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> ok ty i will check it Syche
[09:12] <ozgurgerilla> hi all, is there anyone to help?
[09:12] <pashaw> !anyone
[09:12] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:13] <globe> pashaw, thanks.  I think I am getting somewhere
[09:13] <pashaw> globe,    great!
[09:13] <ossie> pashaw when i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline
[09:13] <geneo93> ok i need help with zonet router firewall will not work with any ubuntu
[09:13] <ozgurgerilla> ubotu, u feel stupid is you ask a question and you get no answer
[09:13] <ubotu> ozgurgerilla: okay
[09:14] <mwe> Syche: just making the symlink I suggested fixes the normal (non multilanguage) kdevelop
[09:14] <Syche> gnomefreak or kdevelop3 from the cmd line
[09:14] <markus-_-> how do i upgrade my video card
[09:14] <markus-_-> i pulled the old one
[09:14] <markus-_-> and installed the new one
[09:14] <mwe> Syche: he left, it seems
[09:14] <egil> When downloading with wget, is it possible to choose another name for the downloaded file ?
[09:14] <Syche> gnomefreak: Great
[09:14] <ozgurgerilla> i want to install ubunu on the same hard drive as my windows is this ok?
[09:15] <markus-_-> but ubuntu doesn't automatically recognize it
[09:15] <mwe> Syche: however sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ok thats strange :( the muli lag. works but a few of them dont
[09:15] <globe> pashaw, I use a dvorak keyboard: its asking me about my kbd XKB rule set.  do I need to change this?
[09:15] <cmatheson> egil: yeah, -o
[09:15] <scaine> sambaseeker, Here's the link explaining it all : http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[09:15] <sambaseeker> nalioth: thanks
[09:15] <markus-_-> you need to partition that hard drive ozgurgerilla .... but that is how mine is set up
[09:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it
[09:15] <Myrtti> ozgurgerilla: and we really don't know if we can help you so we don't answer to "does/can anyone" questions. I don't know about the majority, but I've lost my wizard hat ;-)
[09:15] <sambaseeker> scaine: thanks i just did
[09:15] <gnomefreak> i am
[09:15] <pashaw> globe,   never used that layout id got with the defaults
[09:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: you don't need the multilanguage version
[09:16] <markus-_-> help
[09:16] <pinkisntwell> what the heck is /opt?
[09:16] <scaine> No worries
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ok after i ran that mwe i just got a promt it should work now?
[09:16] <globe> pashaw, thanks....It says its going to use the current kbd settings
[09:16] <markus-_-> can i use apt get to update the drivers when the computer boots to shell
[09:16] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: it's for vendors to install their software in
[09:16] <trappist> pinkisntwell: generally that's where statically compiled applications go that you got from outside apt
[09:16] <gnomefreak> mwe oh you are good
[09:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: it still doesn't lauch the ide?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> thank you so much :)
[09:16] <gnomefreak> mwe it does :)
[09:16] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   sometimes you need to be patient  this is volunteer   so sometimes you have to wait a few minutes   then ask again
[09:17] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the shortcut is broken
[09:17] <trappist> pinkisntwell: stuff that's portable across distros/versions... that's why I like to make it a separate partition, so I can keep that stuff if I reinstall/upgrade/find a new favorite distro
[09:17] <pinkisntwell> and what does "firefox %s" mean?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> mwe i think your right now all of the kdevelop apps work :)
[09:17] <trappist> pinkisntwell: %s is a variable containing a url
[09:17] <Syche> mve: Thanks for the ln suggestion. Better than having he whole thing
[09:17] <ozgurgerilla> pashaw, thanks for the advise
[09:17] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   but your answer is yes you can   provided you have room to resize or have an empty partition
[09:18] <pinkisntwell> trappist: thanks
[09:18] <mwe> gnomefreak: good. I think the symlink is not needed if you fix the shorcut though
[09:18] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   all my desktop systems are dual boot with win2000
[09:18] <dave_> hey can anyone tell me how to update firefox on my new installation? i downloaded the new tarball from the firefox website, but theres no install file and i can't figure out where to un-ball it
[09:18] <gnomefreak> mwe,  did you just work on that?
[09:18] <cmatheson> !firefox1.5
[09:18] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:19] <egil> cmatheson: -o is is for the log
[09:19] <mwe> gnomefreak: work on it? what do you mean?
[09:19] <ozgurgerilla> I havent partitioned my hard drive. could there be a software that can partition it without loosing my windows files.
[09:19] <sambaseeker> what is hot key combination to start terminal?
[09:19] <pashaw> ossie,    im not a sound card pro     but i only worry about the top test       think i have alsa  alsa   on my home system
[09:19] <user__> hi
[09:19] <gnomefreak> mwe with the ln command or it was a try this it should work?
[09:19] <cmatheson> egil: -O, check the man-page
[09:19] <user__> it seems that either my superblock or my partitiontable has been crashed
[09:19] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: parted does that
[09:20] <user__> e2fsck shows me many errors
[09:20] <user__> what can i do?
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: I seem to remember having to create the symlink in a previous version. I then found out just now fixing the shortcut is sufficient
[09:20] <pashaw> ossie,   alot of these desktop tools are new to me     im CLI oldschool
[09:20] <ozgurgerilla> does parted work on windows?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> mwe ok ty ill have to remember that
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: just change kdevelop to kdevelop3 in the shortcut
[09:20] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: you mean does it run in windows, or does it edit windows partition tables?
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: but we should file a bug report
[09:20] <in54no> how can i install packs of dev like gcc, libs and others?
[09:21] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: it's on the install c
[09:21] <cmatheson> d
[09:21] <ozgurgerilla> run work wat else can u dig from those words?
[09:21] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   understand the risks first   but you can use  the Ubuntu liveCD  or knoppix or buy  partitionmagic to resize  but make backups of your files first incase
[09:21] <ozgurgerilla> ok.
[09:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: I'm glad it works for you now though
[09:21] <gnomefreak> mwe i will file one in a few about it ty again
[09:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: great
[09:22] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   or  add another drive to you system  and leave your windows drive alone   doesnt have to be a large drive either
[09:22] <mwe> gnomefreak: don't forget to mention fixing the shorcut solves it though ;)
[09:22] <gnomefreak> i wont mwe
[09:22] <in54no> how install packs like gcc, libs and others of develop in ubuntu!?
[09:22] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   say  about a 10G drive will last you a long time  unless you save alot of music and videos
[09:22] <cmatheson> in54no: aptitude install build-essential
[09:23] <nalioth> in54no: install 'build-essential
[09:23] <cmatheson> in54no: for the libs you want just install the -dev package
[09:23] <ozgurgerilla> pashaw: thanks. Im using live cd and i wanna install it now. i think i have to back everything.
[09:23] <skel> has anyone built anything thats needed openal ? I think the openal package is broke. there's no openal-config
[09:23] <in54no> cmatheson, ok thanks -dev package?
[09:23] <globe> pashaw,  THANKYOU!  one last question.  I am using ctrl-alt-f1 to access this screen, and got x to start on f2.  now that I come back to f1, f2 is just text.  Is there a key I have to press to get the gui back?
[09:23] <silbe> i'm stuck right at the beginning of the installation because I cannot get isolinux to work with my USB keyboard
[09:23] <silbe> anyone willing/able to help me?
[09:23] <pashaw> globe,    F6 or 7  forgot
[09:23] <ozgurgerilla> is installing ubuntu difficult?
[09:24] <markus-_-> how do i install a new video card in ubuntu
[09:24] <cmatheson> in54no: basically any library that is packaged will not include the development lard, so say you wanted to install libsdl1.2 and develop w/ it, you would also install libsdl1.2-dev
[09:24] <markus-_-> i installed the card
[09:24] <pashaw> globe,   F7
[09:24] <markus-_-> then it gave me shell
[09:24] <mwe> globe: alt-f7
[09:24] <ossie> please guys , ive just bought this sound card today and i still aint got no sound, im on suicide watch
[09:24] <psusi> globe: F2 is just the second tty, it will allways be text... X usually runs on tty7
[09:24] <markus-_-> so i used apt get to install the drivers
[09:24] <in54no> cmatheson, ok thanks :D:D:D
[09:24] <markus-_-> but it still won't boot
[09:24] <psusi> globe: or whatever the first unused tty is when X starts up
[09:24] <pinkisntwell> why is ubuntu's ff 1.0.7 so slow?
[09:24] <markus-_-> tells me X server is disabled
[09:24] <pinkisntwell> I've been reading about this on the forums
[09:25] <pashaw> ossie,   what sound card?
[09:25] <slim> need some wpa help if anyone is available
[09:25] <ossie> phillips psc 724
[09:25] <globe> pashaw. oh man. thanyou so extrodinarily much. I have been working on this for about 4 hours.
[09:25] <cmatheson> !tell slim about anyone
[09:25] <markus-_-> do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:25] <silbe> markus: just a quick guess: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:25] <pashaw> !tell slim about wpa
[09:25] <psusi> pinkisntwell: might not be it... but some people have problems because they have busted routers or ISPs that claim to support IP6, so firefox tries to use that... only they don't really support it so it doesn't work
[09:25] <mwe> pinkisntwell: yeah. about:config in ff, disable the ipv6 crap
[09:25] <sambaseeker> Is it allowed&possible to add username "user" or i am doing something wrong?
[09:25] <edgarin> HI
[09:25] <KenMasters> hey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6389
[09:25] <pashaw> globe,     have fun!
[09:25] <edgarin> you have a webcam??
[09:25] <markus-_-> no i didi silbe
[09:25] <edgarin> I need test the amsn 0.95
[09:26] <edgarin> the webcam
[09:26] <mwe> pinkisntwell: also ff 1.5 seems much faster here
[09:26] <edgarin> but I need one person
[09:26] <edgarin> with webcam
[09:26] <markus-_-> so i enter that from shell?
[09:26] <silbe> markus: yep
[09:26] <cmatheson> edgarin: hey maybe you could  try typing everything on one line
[09:26] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:26] <KenMasters> i webcam is Creative PC CAM 350
[09:26] <pinkisntwell> I have ipv6 disabled
[09:26] <edgarin> ok excuseme!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:26] <silbe> markus: i don't know whether there's an easier way, but it worked for me yesterday
[09:26] <mwe> pinkisntwell: about:config confirms that?
[09:26] <edgarin> KenMasters: You have msn messenger??
[09:26] <pinkisntwell> mwe: yes
[09:27] <sambaseeker> what is command to remove user?
[09:27] <KenMasters> not
[09:27] <mwe> pinkisntwell: all of it?
[09:27] <cmatheson> sambaseeker: deluser
[09:27] <sambaseeker> k
[09:27] <KenMasters> i install webcam problem's
[09:27] <KenMasters> hey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6389
[09:27] <markus-_-> silbe
[09:27] <markus-_-> it says reconfigure must be run as root
[09:27] <markus-_-> what now?
[09:27] <pinkisntwell> mwe: what do you mean all of it? it has "disable ipv6" as true
[09:27] <silbe> type "sudo" in front of it
[09:27] <pinkisntwell> mwe: I disabled it the other day
[09:28] <dave_> hi, it says when i try to upgrade firefox that i need libstdc++5... i have tried using the command "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5, but it gives me an error. how do i do this?
[09:28] <cmatheson> KenMasters: the software is looking for /dev/video0, you don't have that file
[09:28] <silbe> markus: i usually login as root for administration tasks, but it seems Ubuntu discourages that, so use sudo
[09:28] <KenMasters> i type "ls /dev/vi*" and not result :-s
[09:28] <cmatheson> KenMasters: yes, because you don't have that file
[09:28] <mwe> pinkisntwell: look at this too: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8007.htm
[09:29] <cmatheson> KenMasters: you don't have the hardware set up for /dev/video0 (i'm not familiar w/ what that is... tv card?)
[09:29] <KenMasters> Since I install the file?
[09:29] <KenMasters> is a webcam
[09:29] <dave_> apt-get says "Unable to lock the download directory" how do i fix this?
[09:29] <KenMasters> view in paste
[09:30] <KenMasters> in lsusb
[09:30] <markus-_-> 32 mb is = to 32000 kb right
[09:30] <markus-_-> lol
[09:30] <ossie> any ideas pashaw
[09:30] <KenMasters> 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd
[09:30] <rod> hi
[09:31] <psusi> markus-_-: no... kb = 1024 bytes... mb = 1024 kb... etc
[09:31] <dereks_> does anyone else have a problem with sbackupd not actually backing up? it automatically goes defunct?
[09:31] <rod> how to make the computer shut itself down in 30 minutes?
[09:31] <rod> automagicly
[09:31] <calamari> hi
[09:31] <rev> rod: sudo shutdown -h 30
[09:31] <pashaw> ossie,   did you verify the correct module is loaded for that card i never saw your answer
[09:31] <rod> merci rev
[09:31] <psusi> sometimes crazy people like to say kb = 1000 and KB or KiB = 1024... but they usually work for hard drive marketing departments so they say that to make their drives look bigger than they really are ;)
[09:31] <terry_> I am trying to move grub from my original hd(hda) to my new sata drive(sda).  Is there an easy way??  The reason being, I want to erase the other drive, while still maintaining my system as is
[09:32] <ossie> it comes up as a via , but i think the chipset is via
[09:32] <Eleaf> Hi
[09:32] <trappist> rod: shutdown -h +30
[09:32] <trappist> oops
[09:32] <calamari> my computer just locked up, so I had to restart it.. back when I was plain ext2, this would mean a long fs check on reboot... but now with ext3, it is saying the fs was clean... did the journal help me or hurt me here?
[09:32] <rod> ^^
[09:32] <rod> How to make any one else's computer shut down on a specific time?
[09:32] <ossie> i dont know how to check its the right module , pashaw
[09:32] <pashaw> ossie,   that sound card is not via
[09:32] <Eleaf> how do I mount my hard drive with the livecd?  I did mount /dev/hda /mnt/ but it says I need to specify a file system type..
[09:33] <trappist> rod: ssh someother box shutdown -h +30
[09:33] <ossie> pashaw, i belive it has a via chipset
[09:33] <psusi> calamari: that's what the journal is for
[09:33] <Eleaf> I don't know the format to put the file format for the command in
[09:33] <Eleaf> lol
[09:33] <calamari> psusi: cool :)
[09:33] <pashaw> ossie,   google   card model        like this     model# linux        or try  adding module
[09:33] <psusi> Eleaf: you have to specify the filesystem type... add a -t type... like -t ext3
[09:33] <rod> trappist, what's the name of your box?
[09:33] <pashaw> ossie,   find what works for others  then you compare to yours
[09:33] <trappist> Eleaf: hda is a hard drive.  you want to mount a partition, like hda1
[09:34] <trappist> rod: grasshopper
[09:34] <cmatheson> Eleaf: is /dev/hda really not partitioned?
[09:34] <trappist> grasshopper.linuxkungfu.org
[09:34] <psusi> Eleaf: what trappist said too...
[09:34] <trappist> Eleaf: once you get that right, mount should be able to guess the filesystem type
[09:35] <psusi> trappist: not from the livecd... mount guesses the type by looking in /etc/fstab
[09:35] <calamari> aww.. I didn't change fstab from ext2 to ext3
[09:35] <calamari> that's probably bad
[09:35] <calamari> brb.. rebooting
[09:35] <rod> thanks for the help, ttfn
[09:35] <trappist> psusi: no, mount will also try all the filesystems it knows about until one works before complaining
[09:35] <swb> hello #ubuntu
[09:35] <markus-_-> silbe
[09:35] <markus-_-> i tried that command you gave me and it still fails to boot x server
[09:36] <trappist> psusi: iow it assumes '-t auto' if you don't specify
[09:36] <markus-_-> do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:36] <globe> how can I kill xwin from text mode?
[09:36] <psusi> trappist: sometimes I think it does... and sometimes it seems it won't...
[09:36] <psusi> best to just specify if it isn't listed in /etc/fstab I find
[09:36] <pashaw> markus-_-,    whats the error
[09:37] <Eleaf> trappist, Alright thank you, I'll see if that worked!
[09:37] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:37] <ossie> pashaw it has the same chipset as the icensemble, and that is what is has installed as
[09:37] <silbe> markus: examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:38] <silbe> markus: and try to find some error messages
[09:38] <heishiro> globe: Not sure, but isnt ubuntu like any other linux?... Im downloading it now... If it is, then a ps aux|grep xwin will show you the process id, and kill processnumber should kill it...
[09:38] <swb> quick question: I tried to apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it said package has no installation candidate
[09:38] <swb> I am on breezy, is this a problem with my sources.list?
[09:38] <pashaw> ossie,    then open the test again and try the top set  each type   esd and alsa   see if you get a tone
[09:38] <silbe> anyone able to help out with USB keyboard problems at installation time?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell swb about java
[09:39] <globe> heishiro: I would assume it is...but my knowledge of *nix is very limited
[09:39] <Eleaf> trappist, alright, mounting that way works only for hda3, hda1, 2, and 4 ask for a filesystem type...
[09:39] <trappist> Eleaf: you're certain you have a hda4?
[09:39] <heishiro> globe: then try ps aux|grep xwin
[09:39] <heishiro> or just try ps aux
[09:40] <swb> !javadebs
[09:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[09:40] <trappist> globe: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:40] <heishiro> it will show all the processes that linux is running...
[09:40] <pashaw> globe,  you want to kill the entire xserver  or just 1 bad window
[09:40] <heishiro> you will see a process id number...
[09:40] <cmatheson> Eleaf: is hda4 your swap partition maybe?
[09:40] <steve_laptop> ok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing
[09:41] <globe> pashaw,  I broke xwin....the server is mostly frozen
[09:41] <Eleaf> cmatheson, trappist alright, I got hda3 to mount which is my filesystem, thanks!
[09:41] <pashaw> globe,   thought you just had it working?
[09:41] <Eleaf> trappist, , hda4 is in /dev but I don't know if it is anything..
[09:41] <globe> pashaw, lol...I did...but I broke it already!
[09:42] <epp> amarok wont play any sound. but my pc plays system sound.
[09:42] <pashaw> globe,   well what  did you do?      or did it not fully work?
[09:42] <pashaw> globe,   lol it was only 10mins ago
[09:43] <Eleaf> Alright, is anybody willing to help me?  I've got my filesystem loaded with the livecd, my harddrive wont boot past calculating module dependencies, I'm not sure what to do to fix it..
[09:43] <globe> pashaw, I think it did fully work.  but when I tried to start the gui irc, it just froze.
[09:43] <pashaw> Eleaf,  easy big fella
[09:43] <ozgurgerilla> why cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd.
[09:43] <ozgurgerilla> ?*
[09:43] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:43] <epp> amarok wont play any sound, but system sounds work.
[09:43] <Eleaf> pashaw, ?
[09:44] <pashaw> globe,   at the CLI  all you type is startx   dont do it  using sudo  or any of that
[09:44] <Malachi> what's a good linux program for recording radio streams?
[09:44] <ossie> anyone know how to start the mutlimedia selector form command line???
[09:44] <pashaw> globe,    go back into F7 the gui and  hit   ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:45] <rev> Malachi: streamripper
[09:45] <Malachi> Heh. Thanks, rev
[09:45] <self_> hello all
[09:45] <veleno> hello everyone. which package should I install to watch quicktime trailers within firefox (ubuntu 5.10) ?
[09:45] <globe> pashaw.  nice. I am going to have to remember that.  I believe that I did startx w/o sudo
[09:45] <pashaw> globe,   dont do that again  :P
[09:45] <self_> in ubuntu ...if i want to open a terminal in a folder how do i do it?
[09:45] <phos-phoros> anyone else having issues in Doom 3 (black walls/floors,,,and the flashlight cannot light these areas) while bumpmapping is turned on and in using the 8.16.20 fglrx driver?
[09:45] <Eleaf> pashaw, lol, I'm confused what to do..
[09:46] <ozgurgerilla>  why cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd?
[09:46] <lucasvo> is anybody using an EPIA board with ubuntu?
[09:46] <phos-phoros> no issues with bumpmapping in QUake 4 though
[09:46] <pashaw> Eleaf,  i have to run a min to check on my users,  but   are you doing a fresh install?
[09:46] <Eleaf> pashaw, do you know what ubuntu is doing when it is calculating module dependencies at boot?
[09:46] <veleno> lucasvo, which java version are you using ?
[09:46] <Eleaf> pashaw, I'm trying to repair my system after a dist-upgrade from breezy pre-release to breezy
[09:46] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: try rephrasing your question
[09:46] <self_> is gnomefreek here?
[09:47] <Eleaf> pashaw, It freezes at calculating module dependencies every time after that
[09:47] <gnomefreak> self?
[09:47] <globe> pashaw...right
[09:47] <self_> gmone..how do i open a terminal in a folder?
[09:47] <Eleaf> pashaw, your a network admin right? lol
[09:47] <pashaw> Eleaf,   yes
[09:47] <ozgurgerilla> ok, can the ubuntu live cd compile java files?
[09:47] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: no
[09:48] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: what I meant was, "I did _______ and ______ happened.  what's wrong?"
[09:48] <gnomefreak> self_, explain that a lil more please do you mean use terminal to go into a dir/folder?
[09:48] <lucasvo> veleno: why? what java?
[09:48] <Eleaf> pashaw, yay.  But do you have any idea what to do to fix my ibook?
[09:48] <globe> pashaw: not sure what I did in the first place but I got the irc client to open correctly now....
[09:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,   nothing about ibooks :(
[09:48] <mase> can anyone help me set up an auto mount on fstab with read only permission so any user can read stuff, like mp3s?
[09:48] <self_> i want to execute a file in a downloaded folder
[09:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,    too busy playing with Linux
[09:48] <Eleaf> pashaw, well I'm trying to fix the calculating module dependencies thing
[09:49] <self_> in other distros you click in the folder and open a terminal
[09:49] <gnomefreak> self_,  what kind of file extention is it?
[09:49] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:49] <Eleaf> pashaw, do I chroot to the harddrive with the livecd, and then what?
[09:49] <veleno> ozgurgerilla: which java version are you using ?
[09:49] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:49] <ozgurgerilla> trappist i think my problem was understood by someone else and he gave me the answer. why should why rephrase it exactly the sameway u want it?
[09:49] <veleno> lucasvo, sorry, wrong nick
[09:49] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> self_, im not sure
[09:49] <ozgurgerilla> I*
[09:49] <pashaw> Eleaf,    im not a chroot pro  only used it a few times
[09:50] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> self_, if any terminal will work use the default terminal and do what you need to do
[09:50] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok, well how do i fix the module dependencies thing? lolol
[09:50] <msg1> hey, I just installed ubuntu. the computer is plugged into my modem through a regular network cable. It was able to connect to the internet when downloading updates, but it times out when trying to goto a website on firefox.
[09:50] <self_> example ...in puppy you right click in the file and exe xterm
[09:50] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: don't be obtuse.  the way you asked it, the answer is unknowable.  it could be because you don't know how, because you're trying to use the sun jre compiler which it doesn't have, or anything else.
[09:50] <gnomefreak> self_,  right click the file and open with other app than choose terminal
[09:50] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:50] <pashaw> Eleaf,    im re-reading your post
[09:51] <trappist> epp: no.
[09:51] <gnomefreak> self_,  i never used puppy :(
[09:51] <self_> if i open a terminal and just say syslinux /dev/sda1 it says it cannot find the file
[09:51] <cmatheson> msg1: can you ping yahoo.com?
[09:51] <trappist> epp: and don't repeat yourself every few seconds like that.
[09:51] <msg1> okay how do i do that
[09:51] <self_> lol....its interesting
[09:51] <pashaw> Eleaf,   it boots to grub right    have you tried a recovery kernel
[09:51] <jahshua--> hi whats the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok now bbl have some work to do
[09:51] <pashaw> Eleaf,   your old ones
[09:52] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[09:52] <cmatheson> jahshua--: breezy
[09:52] <martii> ok folks
[09:52] <epp> trappist, i have used the program before it was reffered from here
[09:52] <martii> I have problem with playing WMV streams
[09:52] <martii> in firefox
[09:52] <self_> so lets say i want to install a program from a file how would i do that/
 thanks
[09:52] <jahshua--> 5.10 ?
[09:52] <martii> any sugestions?
[09:52] <jahshua--> cool
[09:52] <martii> should I use vlc
[09:52] <martii> mplayer plugin ?
[09:52] <martii> I;ve tried mpalyer plugin but it's so slooooow
[09:53] <self_> :-(
[09:53] <msg1> yes i am able to ping yahoo.ocm
[09:53] <sanjay> just received the 5.10 CD's and setting up : ) -- can someone give me a link to the ideal contents of the Repositories file ? with the backdoor repositories etc ?
[09:53] <Stew_Lappy> I want a newsreader that works with nzb files, any suggestions?
[09:53] <Eleaf> pashaw, they don't put a recover kernel with the ppc version, anyways, I got the livecd up and my hard drive mounted, I have access to all the files on my harddrive
[09:54] <self_> ....command question anyone?
[09:54] <steve_laptop> ok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing
[09:54] <pashaw> Eleaf,    also you can "append"  some commends to your grub boot   to disable all the fancy stuff like acpi   so you can at least boot to fix it
[09:54] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: you can open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the repositories
[09:54] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: so that all of them will be used by synaptic and apt-get
[09:54] <pashaw> Eleaf,   i dont have a clue  what would help an ibook boot
[09:54] <sethk> self_, the argument is a device, you gave it a partition
[09:55] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok but I'm booted into the livecd and I can make the changes there, I just don't know what to fix...
[09:55] <philc> my laptop gets online on a lot of networks, and gets a variety of ips. When it's connected at home, I want it to have a static IP or an ip alias. Is this possible with network manager, or with ubuntu's default networking setup but still utilizing dhcp? The dhcp server is some router, and I don't want to have to set the policy on the router itself
[09:55] <pashaw> Eleaf,   on an ibm lappy i would try disabling acpi and apic
[09:55] <nalioth> love that chanserv
[09:55] <el> ih guys
[09:55] <self_> yes i want to knnow how to open a terminal in a folder
[09:55] <pashaw> Eleaf,   reinstall the kernel  wold be a start
[09:55] <self_> know even
[09:55] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok, should I use apt?
[09:56] <in54no> apt-get install mplayer   (because dont download?)
[09:56] <self_> or how to open a terminal linked to the folder contents
[09:56] <el> any1 here use kylix?
[09:56] <Eleaf> pashaw, for some reason, the livecd isn't letting me use my ethernet...
[09:56] <pashaw> Eleaf, someone else has to be better for this question    ask   how to chroot into your broekn Ubuntu to reinstalll the kernel
[09:57] <el> any use kylix
[09:57] <self_> i understand what gnome is saying to open the folder with an application
[09:57] <self_> but i want to execute a command linked to a file
[09:57] <Eleaf> pashaw, alright, I am chrooted into it I have a bunch of kernels there, but only the kernel named "Linux" shows up at boot...
[09:58] <msg1> most of the programs cannot access the internet but i am able to ping yahoo.com in the terminal. Is this a known problem?
[09:58] <Eleaf> while I have at least 6 old kernels in /boot
[09:58] <elle> hello, is there an html - browser expert here? i've been trying to fix my stupid browser for days now >:(
[09:58] <self_> if i want to execute a file i need to tell ubuntu where it is or it will not find it
[09:58] <el> what problems do u have?
[09:59] <elle> the fonts won't render how i want
[09:59] <Eleaf> self_, what do you mean?
[09:59] <el> ohh which browser are u using
[09:59] <self_> ok..
[09:59] <elle> Opera
[09:59] <el> oh
[09:59] <el> im out then
[09:59] <cmatheson> self_: that's kind of the point... if it's not in your $PATH you have to specify what you want to run
[09:59] <elle> yep
[09:59] <elle> nightmare
[09:59] <el> stay with ff
[10:00] <self_>  an example is in puppy linux ..if i want to execute a runnable file i open a terminal in the folder and use a command
[10:00] <Eleaf> self_, you could put a link in your bin folder to what your trying to run
[10:00] <el> tgry konqueror
[10:00] <elle> ido you know if i shoudl have a user.css which my browser reads locally because i don't have one
[10:00] <self_> in ubuntu i cannot open a terminal in a folder
[10:00] <Eleaf> self_, what?
[10:00] <el> have u tried re-installing or re downloading sometimes they wont download properly
[10:00] <el> make sure it updated
[10:01] <self_> ok an example is ..i download a file and put it in home folder
[10:01] <Eleaf> ok
[10:01] <self_> now i want to execute the file in the folder
[10:01] <Eleaf> self_, ok
[10:01] <lightbright> whats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive?
[10:01] <el> has any used kylix with ubuntu?
[10:02] <self_> so how do i execute the file?
[10:02] <Eleaf> self_, ./filename
[10:02] <el> lightbright....you dont
[10:02] <sanjay> pinkisntwell: thanks! -- are there any additional repositories that can be added to the list, or is the list fairly comprehensive ?
[10:02] <lightbright> whats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive replacing sector by sector with zero's etc?
[10:02] <elle> no, i had alot of dependence problems when i installed. do you think if i do a reinstall that will happen now?will i have all the libs etc i need?
[10:02] <self_> ubuntu says no such file..or cannot find file
[10:02] <el> yes
[10:02] <lightbright> el: is now ignored for trolling again
[10:02] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: it's very comprehensive.
[10:02] <el> are u dialup?
[10:02] <elle> OK i might try it then
[10:02] <elle> me
[10:02] <Eleaf> self_, are you sure your putting the right file name in then?
[10:02] <elle>  no
[10:02] <el> ok
[10:03] <el> u on arouter?
[10:03] <elle> no
[10:03] <self_> yes it says no directory
[10:03] <el> direct to modem?
[10:03] <lightbright> el: stop trolling and stop giving wrong advice
[10:03] <Eleaf> self_, so you do this?  cd ~/path/to/binary ./binaryName
[10:03] <crocd> lightbright: you need a util like diskban todo that
[10:04] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:04] <lightbright> crocd: is diskban available for ubuntu?
[10:04] <elle> i'll try a reinstall
[10:04] <crocd> i think it is called dban. let me check.
[10:04] <crocd> it is a bootable util which wipes with 1 and 0 up to nasa encrypted level
[10:04] <self_> i see so you have to direct ubuntu all the way to the file no matter where it is in the structure
[10:05] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:05] <self_> you cannot open a term in the folder?#
[10:05] <lightbright> crocd: did you find it?
[10:05] <Eleaf> self_, of course
[10:05] <crocd> hang on wife is behind me
[10:06] <LazyAce`> lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete it?
[10:06] <LazyAce`> just figuratively speaking you know :o
[10:06] <steve_laptop> can someone help me with this - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=614677#post614677
[10:07] <self_> so to do a command like syslinux /dev/sda1 i would have to put all the other levels in front of the command
[10:07] <steve_laptop> brb
[10:07] <Kindred> self_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26668 , seems like it does what you want
[10:07] <self_> ok ill have a look thanks
[10:08] <Kindred> self_, alternatively you could right click a folder and select open with and then terminal - it will then add this option to the right click menu
[10:08] <crocd> lightbright: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[10:08] <Eleaf> can somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[10:08] <Kindred> but obviously you'd have to move up to the parent dir
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> I'm having trouble with the kubuntu live cd... this is probably the best place, it's an X issue
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> X won't start
[10:08] <sanjay> umm.. i just editted my sources.list file and uncommented the repositories... now i start Synaptic and it gives me a big error message: couldn't stat...... (i can post the details into paste-bin .. )
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> I have a radeon x800pro, and it appears to be an ati driver issue
[10:09] <phatmonkey^iBook> switching to the vga driver works on 8 bit colour and 320x240 resolution
[10:09] <Kindred> sanjay, apt-get update
[10:09] <lightbright> crocd: i compile it?
[10:09] <sanjay> Kindred: <g> thanks ..
[10:10] <kobur> I am trying to install drivers for an ati radeon 9600 xt all in wonder card.  However I am a total beginner and don't know how.
[10:10] <LazyAce`> lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete kubuntu ?
[10:10] <phatmonkey^iBook> "PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could be detected!"
[10:10] <Eleaf> can somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[10:11] <Eleaf> hmm
[10:11] <PeteyPablo> !tell kobur about ati
[10:11] <lightbright> LazyAce`: why would you install kubuntu-desktop anyway?
[10:11] <LazyAce`> wanted to check out KDE
[10:11] <ice-t> LazyAce`, dpkg -P kubuntu-desktop i think
[10:11] <jt3k> LazyAce` : i had the opposite experience. started with kubuntu, added gnome and bang, everything's messed up
[10:11] <LazyAce`> yea
[10:11] <LazyAce`> lol
[10:11] <crocd> lightbright: brb
[10:11] <phatmonkey^iBook> dpkg-reconfigure solves nothing
[10:11] <ice-t> jt3k, me2. fonts...
[10:12] <LazyAce`> ice-t , says i require superuser access or sometshizz
[10:12] <geneo93> LazyAce`:  try just kde next time
[10:12] <elle> Eleaf: it's probably lib dependcies
[10:12] <LazyAce`> lol
[10:12] <oxez> LazyAce`: run with sudo
[10:12] <LazyAce`> o
[10:12] <LazyAce`> coarse lol
[10:12] <ice-t> or as root ;)
[10:12] <dereks_> would this be sufficient for my fstab if i want to mount an ext3 hdd on boot? /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       0
[10:12] <ubuntu133> have some of you got an idea how to install  and write in some other languages in ubuntu ?
[10:12] <crocd> lightbright: did you check the link?
[10:13] <lightbright> crocd: yeah, so I need to compile it?
[10:13] <jt3k> ice-t: how did you fix it
[10:13] <ice-t> jt3k, i installed ubuntu kompletely new ^^
[10:13] <crocd> lightbright: it is a bootable linux cd/floppy whith which you wipe a hard drive. you cannot do it within linux afaik.
[10:13] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:13] <jt3k> haha just the same that i did
[10:13] <ice-t> sorry, my english is not that good...
[10:14] <jt3k> neither is mine
[10:14] <LazyAce`> ice-t :  this is what it says dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kubuntu-desktop which isn't installed
[10:14] <phatmonkey^iBook> fixed, used the radeon driver
[10:14] <crocd> lightbright: Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction.
[10:14] <elle> can someone tell me where i can get browser and html help from? or a good irc search engine, i don't want to reinstall my browser
[10:14] <crocd> the first paragraph on the page. read it
[10:14] <LazyAce`> now, i did kind of 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'
[10:14] <ice-t> hmm. i think kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package
[10:14] <LazyAce`> its an ass package lol
[10:14] <lightbright> crocd: does dban recognise the Ubuntu hard drive or it only reads ntfs or fat32 hard drives?
[10:14] <PeteyPablo> ice-t: correct
[10:14] <kobur> Can someone help me with installing radeon drivers?  I downloaded the files, but don't know how to install them.
[10:14] <LazyAce`> only reads fat32 crocd:
[10:15] <LazyAce`> it'll read NTFS, but it wont read or right
[10:15] <LazyAce`> well, wont write to it
[10:15] <crocd> it wipes a drive regardless of the partition or format. thats all it is designed for. you select it per drive afaik. I havent used it per partition.
[10:15] <LazyAce`> PENIS
[10:16] <LazyAce`> LOL
[10:16] <LazyAce`> that wasn't supposed to go across networks
[10:16] <lightbright> LazyAce`: dban only reads fat32 hard drives?
[10:16] <LazyAce`> think so
[10:16] <LazyAce`> lemme check
[10:16] <LazyAce`> bb, restarting
[10:16] <crocd> lightbright: no it wipes the hard drive regardless of the partion i have wiped a gentoo build with it.
[10:17] <crocd> and NTFS
[10:17] <StarQuake> Laney, lol why did you say that?
[10:17] <lightbright> LazyAce`: you "think" so?  Well if you only THINK so, dont say statements that could be misleading
[10:17] <LazyAce`> i thought he was trying to read
[10:17] <lightbright> LazyAce`: check your data before you make comments please for accuracy
[10:17] <LazyAce`> but i lost the text
[10:17] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:17] <LazyAce`> bb
[10:17] <lightbright> brb
[10:17] <kbrooks> I meed some help
[10:18] <crocd> lightbright: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/520060/DBAN.html
[10:18] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:18] <kbrooks> i tried to unmount a ipod device. doesnt work. how do i disconnect it?
[10:18] <crocd> read that link it has a bit more info also mentions wiping paritions. because it is a linux boot cd it can read any partition. fat32, ntfs or any linux partition.
[10:18] <kbrooks> what will happen if i just unplug the ipod from the computer?
[10:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: what's the error?
[10:19] <StarQuake> wow huge ban list here
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, unknown argument, i think
[10:19] <apokryphos> kbrooks: generally not a good idea. I always unmount it, listen to it and wait till it stops spinning, then unplug. Seems safest.
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i cant hear
[10:19] <Dio^Brando> hi i've a problem and i don't know what to do...i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly (apt) but they don't work and Xorg.log doesn't have any EE string...
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i dont own this ipod
[10:19] <heishiro> Hello. One question... If i need to install ubuntu on an intel pentium D 3.0GHz processor, should i use the AMD 64 Bits one?... I mean, my processor is EMT64, dual core... i should use the 64bits version right?
[10:19] <self_> Kindred...your thread works brilliantly
[10:19] <apokryphos> kbrooks: umount /media/ipod  gives "unknown argument"?
[10:20] <self_> i can now open a terminal in any folder
[10:20] <kbrooks> apokryphos, nautilus
[10:20] <crocd> kbrooks: arfe you sure of the mount path?
[10:20] <kobur> Well, thanks anyway.
[10:20] <apokryphos> kbrooks: ditch that
[10:20] <kbrooks> it tries to eject the device
[10:20] <kbrooks> i didn't mount it myself
[10:20] <apokryphos> doesn't matter
[10:20] <ice-t> kbrooks, look up, what device your ipod is with "mount"
[10:20] <kbrooks> i plugged in & it was auto detected
[10:20] <self_> is kindred still here?
[10:20] <kbrooks> ice-t, already unmounted
[10:21] <lightbright> crocd: can you tell dban to wipe the hard drives you chose? OR does it automatically wipe anything it finds?  Because I only want to wipe hdb1 and not hda
[10:21] <apokryphos> kbrooks: auto-detected = auto-mounted
[10:21] <levander> Is /sbin/grub-install supposed to rewrite menu.lst?
[10:21] <Kindred> self_: sure..
[10:21] <crocd> lightbright: you can choose your hard drive. you will see when it boots up it gives you hard drives to select for wiping.
[10:22] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i unmounted it
[10:22] <self_> why is this code not in ubuntu already..it is so brilliant
[10:22] <geneo93> i have a util that will wipe entire machine including bios
[10:22] <self_> your thread works well
[10:22] <crocd> self_: what code?
[10:22] <self_> i can now open a terminal in a folder#
[10:22] <kbrooks> apokryphos, its not in mount
[10:22] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:23] <lightbright> crocd: take long to wipe a 10 gig hard drive?
[10:23] <kbrooks> apokryphos, eject doesnt do it
[10:23] <apokryphos> kbrooks: safe to listen to hear if it's working, if not -- unmount it
[10:23] <apokryphos> *unplug it
[10:23] <Kindred> self_: actually I was just looking and there is a program called nautilus-open-terminal which I just installed via apt-get, it seems like it does the same thing though
[10:23] <self_> it is a thread that lets you open a terminal in a folder so you dont have to type the path to execut a file
[10:23] <Chousuke> thread?
[10:24] <Chousuke> wtf do you mean with a thread?
[10:24] <self_> well the code i used from the thread works
[10:24] <Chousuke> ah, a script or something?
[10:24] <crocd> lightbright: a while depends on the level of wiping you go for. cant remember the time fram exactly. About 20 min for 10 gb i think.
[10:24] <Chousuke> URL please.
[10:24] <veriz> anyone can tel me whats wrong with my mysql: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[10:25] <self_> well your help is apprectiated..thanks
[10:25] <Kindred>  veriz, mysql -u root -p
[10:25] <veriz> Kindred: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:25] <self_> thats the trouble with app get you need to know exactly what it does ..lol
[10:25] <lightbright> crocd: ok
[10:27] <self_> kindred.. could you let gnome know what i was on about..
[10:27] <thoeger> Hi folks - My disk space is limited, so I wondered if there was any way to get rid of alle the unnused .debs in  /var/cache/apt/archives?
[10:27] <kbrooks> apokryphos, someone near me is asking me what unmount means
[10:27] <thoeger> Is it safe to removedhe
[10:27] <kbrooks> apokryphos, do you know?
[10:28] <thoeger> remove them manually - sorry....
[10:28] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:28] <geneo93> thoeger:  apt-get clean
[10:28] <apokryphos> kbrooks: think about what the world means literally
[10:28] <Kindred> veriz: have you set up a password for mysql..
[10:28] <apokryphos> kbrooks: any devices on your computer need to be "mounted" to be "on" the computer
[10:28] <thoeger> geneo93: is that all? wheee...
[10:29] <apokryphos> or for them to be detected
[10:29] <geneo93> yes susdo for you though
[10:29] <self_> any way happy new year to all and ill catch you later....
[10:29] <geneo93> sudo i mean
[10:30] <thoeger> geneo93: yup, figured that... thanx. Is there a GUI way to do that in synaptics? Maybe I'm just blind.....
[10:30] <Dio^Brando> hi i've a problem and i don't know what to do...i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly (apt) but they don't work and Xorg.log doesn't have any EE string...
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> hui
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> i installed a soundcard on my server
[10:30] <StarQuake> Dio^Brando, don't work? what's the problem?
[10:31] <SaLoMoN> how to configure it?
[10:31] <SaLoMoN> or install
[10:31] <SaLoMoN> the modules?
[10:31] <Kindred> thoeger: settings - preferences - files in synaptic
[10:32] <Dio^Brando> StarQuake:  the screen goes black and after a while (10 sec) i have to restart my machine (even the keyboard stops to work)
[10:32] <StarQuake> Dio^Brando, what kind of card?
[10:32] <jt3k> Dio^Brando , maybe you have the wrong version of the drivers
[10:33] <Dio^Brando> StarQuake:  geforce mx400
[10:33] <geneo93> Dio^Brando:  have you done nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:34] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  yes(it only changes my xorg.conf "nv" in "nvidia")
[10:34] <geneo93> where did you get driver
[10:35] <jc-denton> dvd playing on my laptop is really fucking slow under ubuntu
[10:35] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  i've tried both nvidia's homepage and apt's
[10:35] <jc-denton> i haven't watched dvds for quite a while on it
[10:35] <jc-denton> but i remeber that it was much faster.. (under debian i think)
[10:35] <jt3k> jc-denton , enable dma access or dvd playback will be painfully slow
[10:36] <jc-denton> that is disabled?
[10:36] <jt3k> my laptop was doing the same yesterday
[10:36] <StarQuake> wow
[10:36] <jc-denton> lol wtf
[10:36] <StarQuake> tell me how to enable
[10:36] <jc-denton> what are the stupid users supposed to do if they want to watch dvd?
[10:37] <jt3k> a lot of stuff
[10:37] <binarydigit> say please
[10:37] <cmatheson> jc-denton: in this case you are one of the stupid users
[10:37] <jc-denton> no
[10:37] <StarQuake> binarydigit, pretty pretty please
[10:37] <jc-denton> cmatheson: u tell me "enable dma"
[10:37] <jc-denton> me: wtf it's note enabled by default
[10:37] <jc-denton> then i enableit
[10:37] <jt3k> specially if you want to play encrypted dvds
[10:37] <Dio^Brando> jc-denton:  there's an howto in ubuntuguide.com
[10:37] <binarydigit> hdparm -d /dev/yourdevicehere
[10:38] <jc-denton> tell that to somebody who is not familiar with computers
[10:38] <StarQuake> nano -w /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:38] <jc-denton> yes i know hdparm
[10:38] <jt3k> i read some time ago that dma access is kinda dangerous for data
[10:38] <jt3k> is it still risky to use it under linux?
[10:38] <binarydigit> maybe in the 70s
[10:38] <geneo93> thats bull
[10:38] <Seveas> Dio^Brando, ubuntuguide.org is a bad source for information
[10:38] <binarydigit> hmm lets see
[10:38] <binarydigit> !dma
[10:38] <Dio^Brando> Seveas:  really?i found it useful...
[10:39] <Seveas> jt3k, only if your hard drives are from the 80's
[10:39] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[10:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[10:39] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  are you still there?
[10:39] <Seveas> argh, some moron chanted it
[10:39] <geneo93> Dio^Brando:  yes
[10:39] <jono> if I compile a kernel for an amd64 processor but I am running x86 (32-bit) applications, will it cause a problem?
[10:39] <jt3k> i ask because i have tried 3 or 4 distros and none had dma access enabled by default
[10:39] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  any hint?
[10:39] <jc-denton> well thx4info
[10:39] <nalioth> Dio^Brando: let us hope you suffer no ill effects from its use
[10:39] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:39] <ubotu> ...but ubuntuguide is already something else...
[10:40] <Seveas> !no ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:40] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:40] <Dio^Brando> nalioth:  oh...!
[10:40] <vrln> Seveas: is the guy who wrote the original ubuntuguide part of the crew that made that official version?
[10:40] <clast> is it possible to use an ipod nano with linux/gtkpod
[10:40] <Seveas> no
[10:40] <vrln> looks quite similar at least :)
[10:40] <vrln> ah
[10:40] <geneo93> maybe nvidia drivers from nvisia are best but i did complete reinstall for them
[10:40] <nalioth> vrln: which is why we don't recommend it, it doesnt keep up with progress
[10:40] <Seveas> the guy who created ubuntuguide.org is an uncooperative fool who spreads bad information
[10:41] <apokryphos> vrln: similar? The documentation isn't remotely similar. The official docs *explain* things
[10:41] <Dio^Brando> nalioth:  can you help me about nvidia drivers and xorg?
[10:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dio^Brando about nvidia
[10:41] <vrln> apokryphos: yeah, well, I mostly meant the concept; ie, quick question and answer :) (haven't actually read the official one, sorry for being unclear)
[10:42] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  the weird thing is that xorg doen'st give any error!this is the xorg.log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6391
[10:42] <geneo93> look in home dir for xsession errors
[10:42] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  where exactly
[10:43] <geneo93> file:///home/kane/.xsession-errors
[10:44] <SealyDave> what does the number(x) mean in the kernel version ex. 2.6.12-x?
[10:44] <StarQuake> it's the ubuntu release
[10:44] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:44] <SealyDave> the kernel
[10:44] <Dio^Brando> geneo nothing useful...
[10:45] <StarQuake> SealyDave, everytime they release a kernel with ubuntu patches it increases
[10:45] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:45] <SealyDave> k
[10:45] <geneo93> well it may not be there if it crashes
[10:45] <robotgeek> kbrooks: please be more descriptive
[10:45] <SealyDave> i cant seem to startx in -10 , have to use -9
[10:45] <kbrooks> some music on the iPod isn't showing up on it.
[10:45] <kbrooks> what gives
[10:46] <geneo93> maybe you dont have codecs for some
[10:46] <kbrooks> no, "on the iPod"
[10:46] <SealyDave> the latest kernel path is what?
[10:46] <SealyDave> *patch
[10:47] <kbrooks> SealyDave, god knows
[10:47] <Stork> how come whenever i do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it just gives me "* reconfiguring network interfaces..." and then nothing? it just freezes
[10:47] <mwe> Stork: you gotta check dmesg and the log files in /var/log/
[10:48] <SealyDave> do you guys know where i can find a text file with all the nix comands and descriptions ?
[10:48] <Stork> the who with the what?
[10:48] <geneo93> Stork:  i am forced to use a different distro because ubuntu wont network here
[10:48] <mwe> SealyDave: all of them. no. but sudo apt-get rutebook is a good start
[10:48] <Stork> it's usually alright
[10:48] <crocd> SealyDave: it will be a large file
[10:48] <hmp_> SealyDave: TAB; TAB
[10:48] <Stork> i'm trying to get ubuntu to keep a fixed bloody ip address
[10:48] <Stork> instead of using dhcp
[10:48] <Stork> i set it up on my router
[10:49] <gnu2it2> any ubuntu/sparc folks here?
[10:49] <Stork> but i don't know how to do it over the command line
[10:49] <robotgeek> gnu2it2: afaik, ubuntu doesn't run on the sparc
[10:49] <binarydigit> Stork: ifconfig
[10:49] <robotgeek> gnu2it2: you would have to use debian/gentoo
[10:49] <geneo93> stork sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.3 or what ever addy your using
[10:50] <Aron_Figaro> Hey everyone.
[10:50] <geneo93> oh forgot the eth0
[10:50] <gnu2it2> http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-sparc/dists/breezy/restricted/debian-installer/binary-sparc/
[10:50] <Aron_Figaro> Anyone here get VisualBoyAdvance working under Wine 0.93/4? I've been hearing a bit about it on the forums but can't get any details.
[10:50] <gnu2it2> but i',m looking for install ISO disk
[10:50] <geneo93> Stork:  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3
[10:50] <Stork> yeh i guessed the eth0 part ;p
[10:51] <Stork> ok so far it's  just doing nothing
[10:51] <Stork> my router detects it as working
[10:51] <binarydigit> you need to set the gateway and dns and subnet mask too
[10:51] <Stork> and connected
[10:51] <jt3k> Aron_Figaro : theres a native linux version of vba
[10:51] <geneo93> did nothing for me as well only on different distro
[10:51] <Stork> they are the same
[10:51] <alvaro> hi, how can i download/install opera on breezy 5.10?
[10:51] <Stork> but the command line isn't doing anything
[10:52] <Stork> it's crashed
[10:52] <Stork> again
[10:52] <geneo93> the dhcp3 sucks
[10:52] <vrln> alvaro: go to opera.com, download the .deb package, and sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:52] <Stork> i feel a manual restart is in order
[10:52] <SAM_theman> yo people long time no see :D
[10:53] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: Yes but it sucks.
[10:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell alvaro about opera
[10:54] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: It's a positively ancient build, and doesn't even run with a GUI. I can almost guarantee running the newer builds in Wine to work better
[10:54] <SealyDave> so i did a manual install, a easyubuntu install and a automatix install but cant get jre running on this badboy
[10:54] <jt3k> what do you dislike about it?
[10:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell SealyDave about java
[10:54] <mgw> is it possible to get write access to my connected digicam?
[10:55] <jt3k> I don't use it much so it has been enough for me
[10:55] <ice-t> ubotu: tell ice-t about java
[10:55] <GnarlyBob> write access?
[10:55] <SealyDave> dude i know ive been there
[10:55] <Stork> FUFCCFFUIFCFCU*CCKCUFRF(PUT
[10:55] <SealyDave> im on tier 3 troubleshooting
[10:55] <Stork> it wont fucking work
[10:55] <crocd> Stork: if i remember correctly you need to ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 mask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1
[10:55] <apokryphos> Stork: language, please.
[10:55] <Stork> sorry :(
[10:55] <jt3k> a positive aspect if it is that you can load savegames from the windows version
[10:55] <Stork> technically, i didn't manage to say it
[10:55] <mgw> GnarlyBob: yes, i want to write some pictures to my cameras storage card
[10:55] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: Speed mostly
[10:56] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: and I've never gotten sound to work properly in it
[10:56] <GnarlyBob> I didn't know that was possible, but I don't know much about such devices either
[10:56] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: gak! Just found out why it's slow - binary's compiled from SDL ><
[10:56] <_Lestat_> Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?
[10:57] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: WTF were those guys smoking? No wonder 1.8 is a total rebuild
[10:57] <SealyDave> MTU settings
[10:57] <McJerry> MTU
[10:57] <levander> Can someone tell me why when i 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', then 'chroot /mnt', then just a 'mount' it is reported that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /?
[10:57] <jt3k> mmm bad stuff
[10:57] <SealyDave> ha i said it first
[10:57] <Stork> crocd, that sort of works. the router accepts it, but it crashes the ssh session (it just freezes)
[10:57] <globe> Help: How do I get ubuntu to seek name servers ?  If I target xchat at irc.freenode.net, it seeks ip:1.0.0.0.  If I target it at freenode.net's ip, it works fine.
[10:58] <Kyral> globe: are you on a Linksys Wireless Router?
[10:58] <crocd> levander: once you mount something you cannot remount it. you first have to unmount it
[10:58] <Stork> crocd, will that work even if i restart?
[10:58] <levander> crocd: how am i remounting something?
[10:58] <SealyDave> all this talk about mounting makes me want to whack off
[10:58] <crocd> yep but check what it IFCONFIG SAYS
[10:58] <globe> Kyral:nope, I am on a linksys wired switch->dsl gateway (serving dhcp from dsl)
[10:58] <sanjay> globe: add the DNS server you are using to resolv.conf .. what does your /etc/resolv.conf file show ?
[10:58] <Kyral> globe: Mine hates me too
[10:59] <Kyral> globe: lemme guess no DNS?
[10:59] <crocd> levander: if you mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/music
[10:59] <SealyDave> use 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
[10:59] <jt3k> does anyone know how to sync a pocket pc with kubuntu (kontact or something like that)? just point me to a good link, I've failed everytime I tried
[10:59] <Stork> crocd, what am i looking for?
[10:59] <levander> crocd: are you explaining something? i'm not doing that
[10:59] <crocd> levander: then you have to umount it otherwise mount produces an error. it is like trying to wake someone whom is already awake.
[11:00] <crocd> levander: what did you mount it as?
[11:00] <sanjay> Kyral, globe - yea, for some reason my resolv.conf keeps auto-resetting itself to 192.168.0.1 which doesn't work --- manually changing the DNS server there and doing a "chattr +i resolv.conf" worked for me .
[11:00] <globe> kyral,sanjay: my dns servers are in there. I thought of that too.  The servers in there are my dsl gateway and the dns from my provider
[11:00] <levander> crocd: yes, i know that, but when am I trying to remount something?  I mount, then I chroot.  That's it
[11:00] <crocd> aaah.
[11:00] <Kyral> globe: you are better off than I. DNS ain't working good for me
[11:01] <crocd> are you as root levander?
[11:01] <levander> crocd: 1.) 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', 2.) 'chroot /mnt', and 3.) 'mount' - this last command reports that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /
[11:01] <Kyral> sanjay: what did you change your DNS to?
[11:01] <levander> crocd: yes, as root
[11:01] <Kyral> sanjay: its set to my ISP's server
[11:01] <SealyDave> sounds like you need to disable DHCP on router
[11:01] <globe> sanjay: what is a chattr cmd?
[11:01] <PeteyPablo> change attribute
[11:01] <levander> globe: chmod
[11:01] <Kyral> Change Attributes
[11:02] <PeteyPablo> like +X
[11:02] <sanjay> Kyral: provided by my ISP -- 203.94.227.70 -- it resets it to the gateway address which is generally ok but my isp is weird and uses a separate DNS server ..
[11:02] <Kyral> It seems to be specific to ext2/3
[11:02] <Kyral> hmm
[11:02] <globe> lavender: I C.
[11:02] <Kyral> mine is set to the ISP's address
[11:02] <crocd> levander: why are you mounting it as /mnt, normally you should have a folder specified under that other wise it might not work
[11:02] <_Lestat_> Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?
[11:02] <Kyral> I'm gonna upgrade my firmware
[11:02] <SealyDave> MTU settings
[11:02] <sanjay> globe: chattr is just to make a file "immutable" -- excluding write permissions for all users, basically .. but if the problem is not with resolv.conf and DNS servers, ignore .
[11:02] <SealyDave> get on it
[11:02] <crocd> levander: out of curiosity what are you trying to do?
[11:02] <Kyral> and hack the code
[11:02] <levander> crocd: mounting on /mnt works fine, i've been doing it for years
[11:02] <Stork> crocd, what exactly am i looking for in "ifconfig" ? it says 192.168.0.3 as the ip
[11:03] <levander> crocd: reinstall grub
[11:03] <Stork> will it keep that when i restart?
[11:03] <Kyral> I love it ebing GPL'd :D
[11:03] <coz> hello all
[11:03] <crocd> ahh!
[11:03] <steve_laptop> brb
[11:03] <alvaro> when i try installing opera it says i need these:
[11:03] <darkzero> hi
[11:03] <alvaro> xlib6g, xlibs
[11:04] <crocd> Stork: it should say ip: then bcast then mask
[11:04] <SealyDave> where can i submit a ticket for ubuntu?  lol
[11:04] <binarydigit> alvaro: so you gonna install them
[11:04] <coz> ] apt-get install xlibs
[11:04] <alvaro> i get this when i do sudo apt-get install xlibs:
[11:04] <alvaro> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:04] <alvaro>   opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable
[11:04] <darkzero> someone knows how to fix a tcl/tk related problem with amsn? ._.
[11:05] <McJerry> levander: question: exactly what fs and os is on /dev/hdda3?
[11:05] <McJerry> hda3 i meant
[11:05] <coz> alvaro at the risk of these "people" coming down on me just use automatix to install opera works lika charm
[11:05] <Stork> crocd, ok, good. will it keep that when i restart?
[11:05] <alvaro> i live in the U.S though, it says it's illegal :-S
[11:06] <MayorMcCheese> Anyone have ideas on how to get a dell true mobile internal wireless card to work in ubuntu
[11:06] <coz> alvaro most things are legal for personal use that is the licensing in the US
[11:06] <robotgeek> MayorMcCheese, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:06] <robotgeek> coz: it is for a reason, i believe
[11:06] <coz> it is legal for personal use
[11:06] <alvaro> how do i get automatix :S
[11:06] <crocd> yep once it has accepted it it should. check to see if you can ping a ip address Stork
[11:06] <Stork> i can
[11:06] <darkzero> (amsn won't start... I think it's something related with the WISH interpreter... and xrgb)
[11:07] <coz> wait iw ill get the url
[11:07] <Dio^Brando> ok i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly and i found that Load "glx" gives black screen...it's just like xorg crashes when it tryes to load the glx module
[11:07] <crocd> then it should work, try to restart ssh
[11:07] <robotgeek> MayorMcCheese: see if your card is listed somewhere on that page
[11:07] <SealyDave> alvaro: easyubuntu is better
[11:07] <coz> alvaro     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[11:07] <Stork> is there a way to make the scp command not overwrite files?
[11:07] <coz> alvaro are you using breezy?
[11:07] <alvaro> yea
[11:08] <coz> great if you have hardware issues automatix will work
[11:08] <darkzero> Dio^Brando hai installato la versione giusta della patch per il kernel?
[11:08] <coz> if youhave NO hardware issues
[11:08] <richard_> does windows xp need to be on the first partition?
[11:08] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  patch?
[11:08] <coz> always install xp first
[11:08] <crocd> levander: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html. Have you checked this
[11:09] <richard_> coz: on the first partition?
[11:09] <coz> I really don't think it matters which paritition but installation matters
[11:09] <coz> it is always safer when dual booting with xp tpo install xp first
[11:09] <SealyDave> yup
[11:10] <coz> but I have seen some people have problems in any way they install
[11:10] <coz> if you are used to dual booting you should know what to do after that
[11:10] <SealyDave> buy a p3 for 100 bcks
[11:10] <locsmif> Hi, I'm testing a script that detects X version, would anybody like to help me out and show me the output of this line? (I need to know if it fucntions correctly with X.Org as well as Xfree86)
[11:10] <darkzero> Dio^Brando look at the driver page in the Nvidia homesite... once upon a time nv drivers comes with a kernel patch
[11:11] <locsmif> xdpyinfo | awk '/version:/ { print $NF }'
[11:11] <locsmif> that's the line
[11:11] <locsmif> should give something back like "6.8.2"
[11:11] <locsmif> or similar
[11:11] <coz> hold on locsmif
[11:11] <darkzero> Dio^Brando or, maybe, now this patch is autocompiled from the nvidia-installer :S uhm
[11:11] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  so italiano pure io c'avevi visto bene prima!sto diventando scemo con sti driver nvidia
[11:11] <Dio^Brando> ho provato sia ad installare quelli ufficiali dal sito nvidia che con apt
[11:11] <vilefridge> Hello! :)  I just installed a new motherboard and Ubuntu 5.10 refuses to boot entirely.  I receive an error stating that the XServer cannot be loaded.  I believe that this is the graphical environment.  How can I 'repair' my installation without losing my current configuration.. so that my new motherboard functions?
[11:11] <darkzero> Dio^Brando a anch'io so' Italiano, ma me pareva maleducato qua 'ffa er burino :P
[11:11] <coz> got the exact niuumbers
[11:12] <robotgeek> locsmif: 6.8.2
[11:12] <Renich> Hi guys
[11:12] <coz> locsmif I got the same numbers
[11:12] <Renich> need guideance
[11:12] <robotgeek> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:12] <darkzero> Dio^Brando You see? ._.
[11:12] <locsmif> robotgeek, coz , great! :)
[11:12] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  isee..
[11:12] <Renich> im 'considering' on installing ubuntu... why should I? any strenghts?
[11:12] <yatesy> oh please
[11:12] <darkzero> Dio^Brando see you on ubuntu-it
[11:12] <globe> vilefridge: I had that same problem.  try "dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:12] <ossie> !tell ossie repositories
[11:12] <coNP> what is the default SMTP server in ubuntu?
[11:12] <skon> vilefridge: hit Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace to go into textual mode....from there....you'll need to do some hardware research and troubleshooting
[11:12] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  i'm already there
[11:13] <globe> vilefridge no quotes
[11:13] <robotgeek> coNP: postfix, i believe
[11:13] <ossie> !tell ossie repositry
[11:13] <robotgeek> globe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <coz> DioBrando ciao
[11:13] <ossie> !tell ossie repositories
[11:13] <crocd> locsmif: 6.8.2
[11:13] <fredforfaen> im trying to compile openbox but i get this error ;  The X Window System could not be found.
[11:13] <fredforfaen>  what should i do?
[11:13] <coz> Has anyone here tried the app "sketch" and if so did you get it work?
[11:13] <vilefridge> globe, skon: thanks!  I'll give that a shot =)
[11:13] <cptmorgan> i installed and started portmap but when i try to mount nfs shares i get RPC program not found
[11:14] <robotgeek> ubotu tell fredforfaen about xincludes
[11:14] <skon> sure
[11:14] <locsmif> crocd, ok, excellent
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repository
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repositorys
[11:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ossie repos
[11:14] <globe> robotgeek. right.
[11:14] <fredforfaen> robotgeek thanx :)
[11:14] <kemik> !tell ossie about repositories
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repos
[11:14] <skon> ubotu: tell ossuie about repositories
[11:14] <ossie> cheers
[11:14] <Renich> !tell ossie about repositories
[11:14] <kemik> spam! :)
[11:14] <Renich> haha
[11:14] <skon> :-D
[11:15] <globe> how do I make my eth0 look at dhcp on boot?
[11:15] <Renich> 10 secs
[11:15] <coz> again has anyone used the app "sketch" and have you gotten it to work?
[11:15] <robotgeek> globe: add auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <Renich> hey, are you guys happy with ubuntu?
[11:15] <Renich> please tell me the weaknesses!
[11:15] <ossie> where is the one that generates a list for u ???? please
[11:15] <coz> VERY HAPPY WITH UBUNTU
[11:15] <bob832> Renich: very happy with ubuntu
[11:15] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ossie about easysource
[11:15] <Renich> ok, why?!
[11:16] <coz> applications generally suck
[11:16] <coz> I like it because I make money from it
[11:16] <Renich> lol
[11:16] <jt3k> best hardware support so far in my linux usage experience
[11:16] <Renich> any good things to say about it? or is it just markenting "good"
[11:16] <ossie> gracias
[11:16] <coz> In all seriousness I never liked linux or  unix other than irix but ubuntu has sold me over to linux
[11:16] <Kindred> I like it very much. =] 
[11:17] <robotgeek> Renich: you get  "out of the box" experience
[11:17] <bob832> Renich: my reasons:  easy to setup, great hardware support, plenty of documentation, friendly community
[11:17] <egkamp> Renich: I've had ubuntu installed for only about 8 hours, and I'm impressed that everything worked "out of the box", and it seems snappy
[11:17] <coz> It is stabel enough for me to switch some of my residential clients from xp to ubuntu without too much worry
[11:17] <polpak> bob832, more than just a friendly community. It's a big community.
[11:17] <fizz> How do I get multiple displays on ubuntu?
[11:17] <globe> robotgeek: will that also work for my wireless card?
[11:17] <sanjay> Renich: its free, and it works beautifully -- something i could setup even for my mom and know she'll be able to use .. and the IRC support is great for any complex issues ..
[11:17] <polpak> bob832, more people makes it much easier to find solutions to your problems
[11:17] <Renich> bob832: I'm looking for other kind of reasons... like, uptodate software, great filesystem usage, standard compilance, etc
[11:18] <robotgeek> globe: what?
[11:18] <bob832> polpak:  that too
[11:18] <coz> These channesl have many people willing to help unless they get some thing stuck in their crack
[11:18] <robotgeek> yes, Renich we are very nice ppl
[11:18] <Renich> ok, anyone used Fedora Core here?
[11:18] <polpak> Renich, yes
[11:18] <bob832> Renich:  lol, i have
[11:18] <polpak> Renich, I've used both core 4 and core 3
[11:18] <Renich> any comparisson notes?
[11:18] <hmp_> will ubuntu detect my external usb hdd, conected to my notebook via pcmcia usb2.0 card (nec chipset) ?
[11:19] <globe> robotgeek: I added auto eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces .  will that work for my wifi card when i install it?
[11:19] <polpak> Renich, I find it much easier to find software that does what I want in ubuntu
[11:19] <egkamp> I had to install and configure Fedora Core in my Operating Systems class, once, but I've never actually used it
[11:19] <robotgeek> globe: yes
[11:19] <sanjay> Renich: standard compliance is the only issue i think, for eg. setting up my wireless card is still a bitch, but thats getting better .
[11:19] <Mandor-> Okay, I have a problem and I'm hopping you guys could help me. I just installed Ubuntu Hoary but it didn't detect my SigmaTel C-Major sound chipset, can anyone give me a pointer on how to install it properly?
[11:19] <bob832> Renich:  all i can say is that ubuntu is 100 times easier to setup than fedora
[11:19] <globe> robotgeek: cool thanks alot...saves me from bringing it up each time ;-)
[11:19] <Tachyon> I can't play a DVD in Totem, because I get a permission error.  When I run Totem as root, I get another error and this long error in Konsole: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/484687
[11:19] <JDahl> is there no pygtk package for AMD64?
[11:19] <mwe> egkamp: heh. they actually made install fedora in OS class?
[11:19] <polpak> Renich, fedora often required me to search all over the internet to find required dependancies to various software packages. And I often had to build them from source
[11:19] <Renich> what about the standard directory hierarchy?
[11:19] <polpak> Tachyon, don't run totem as root
[11:20] <bob832> Renich:  like someone mentioned eariler, its that "out-of-box" experience that makes it so great
[11:20] <robotgeek> globe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:20] <mwe> egkamp: made you install it that is
[11:20] <globe> robotgeek: cool. thanks.
[11:20] <egkamp> we installed fedora and win2000 on local networks, yep
[11:20] <Renich> ok, thanx guys for the input... so far the veredict is that ubuntu is more beautiful than anything... right?
[11:20] <sanjay> Renich: ext3, standard linux i think -- uses /etc , /var, /home , /boot, etc ..
[11:20] <coz> Renich if you don't have any high end needs ubuntu is the way to go unles you want to buy red hat
[11:21] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay, so how do I get DVDs running while not running Totem as root?
[11:21] <polpak> Renich, it is much easier to "just use" than any other linux I've seen
[11:21] <Renich> not at all coz... just asking
[11:21] <bob832> i agree
[11:21] <Canoeingkidd> I need help with fsck - I had to shut down ubuntu the wrong way and now the filesystem must be messed up
[11:21] <egkamp> Renich: I used to use Mandrake, but I got tired of everything pointing me to a mandrake site...
[11:21] <polpak> Tachyon, what's the error you get when you don't run as root?
[11:21] <spola> if i paste ubuntu's source in debian's sources.list and run apt-get (dist-?)upgrade, will i fubar things ?
[11:21] <coz> Tachyon do you have all of your libs etc installed
[11:21] <Renich> well, support is defenetly important
[11:21] <egkamp> Renich: for instance, opening XChat would automaticly log me into #mandriva, regardless of what i was doing...
[11:21] <Renich> but its not as uptodate as I want it to be...
[11:21] <Tachyon> polpak: "Failed to open device /dev/hdc for reading: Permission denied"
[11:22] <Renich> yeah, i get the idea egkamp
[11:22] <egkamp> likeside, even lynx went to their site
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, ok, so you need to give your user access to the disks
[11:22] <mwe> in mandrake, you can get commercial support, right?
[11:22] <Canoeingkidd> fsck asked me if I want to clone multiply-claimed blocks....do I?
[11:22] <existance> doesn't ctrl + backspace restart X ?
[11:22] <egkamp> changing config files only worked until an update, and mandrake over wrote everything
[11:22] <Seveas> mwe, for Ubuntu too :)
[11:22] <locsmif> well, I also asked in #debian to some XFree86 users..
[11:22] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay.  I've looked at fstab but I'm not quite sure how to edit it to do that . . . if editing fstab is even the proper way to go :D
[11:22] <mwe> existance: ctrl-alt-bs
[11:22] <locsmif> it seems to work
[11:22] <StarQuake> existance, ctrl-alt-bs iirc
[11:22] <locsmif> thanks guys :)
[11:22] <mwe> Seveas: really?
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, it's not the fstab
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, it's your user account
[11:23] <Seveas> mwe, ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/paidsupport
[11:23] <polpak> Tachyon, go to System->Administration->Users & Groups
[11:23] <mwe> Seveas: I see. I had no idea
[11:23] <Renich> well thanx a lot guys for the opinion and info!
[11:23] <Falstius> is there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?
[11:23] <Renich> well, be seing ya! bye
[11:23] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: Most of the time, fsck knows what to do.
[11:24] <bob832> Renich: bye
[11:24] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: So yes, you probably want to do that.
[11:24] <olicat> is there any reason i can ssh from my server to my client, and the client can ping the server - but i can't ssh from the client TO the server?
[11:24] <Canoeingkidd> shawarma, thanks
[11:24] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: Any time.
[11:24] <globe> dns problems: firefox wont resolve names....all others do.  do I have to direct firefox at my resolv.conf manually?
[11:24] <Falstius> olicat: the server isn't running ssh?
[11:24] <Mandor-> exit
[11:25] <olicat> Falstius, i've installed it and restarted /etc/init.d/ssh
[11:25] <bob832> olicat:  perhaps a firewall on the client is blocking the ssh port?
[11:25] <cctecxp> oi
[11:25] <bob832> olicat:  opps, i mean the server
[11:26] <olicat> bob832, it's a stock ubuntu install. i dont think it has one, does it?
[11:26] <olicat> bob832, yeah, the server. it's running ubuntu
[11:26] <MarcN> globe: shouldn't have to do anything.  From the command line can you do this:     $ host www.cnn.com   ?
[11:26] <markive> i managed to get online with wireless on a linksys wap54g today on a dell d600 :) took some fiddling
[11:26] <Sepheebear> olicat: try ssh -vv server
[11:26] <Tachyon> polpak: What do I need to modify there?  What do I have to change about my user account?
[11:27] <cafuego> !find 2ico
[11:27] <nekostar> olicat, see thats the thing
[11:27] <alex323> Hey
[11:27] <polpak> If you go to the properties of your account under the user privileges
[11:27] <nekostar> it is sort of firewalled on a default install
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of '2ico' (2 shown): (/usr/share/pixmaps/{cbm2icon-32x28.xpm|cbm2icon-48x42.xpm}) in multiverse/otherosfs/vice ;; (/usr/share/mantis/gui/images/{excel2icon.gif|pdf2icon.gif|word2icon.gif}) in universe/web/mantis.
[11:27] <alex323> What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?
[11:27] <polpak> Tachyon, you should check the 'Use CD-ROM drives'
[11:27] <cctecxp> alguem do BRASIL
[11:27] <nekostar> from what i can gather it acts stealthed or so
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell cctecxp about pt
[11:28] <Falstius> olicat, you could try "nmap server.name" and see if the ssh port is open
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <olicat> nekostar, it is?
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASILBRASIL
[11:28] <MayorMcCheese> how about extended desktop on ubuntu?  When I connect a second monitor it only creates an enlarged version of my current desktop on monitor 1
[11:28] <globe> host google.com
[11:28] <erUSUL> cctecxp, stop it
[11:28] <polpak> nekostar, no, there are no firewall settings on default ubuntu
[11:28] <coz> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:28] <MayorMcCheese> Does anyone have ideas on that?
[11:28] <Zambba> starckjohann
[11:29] <MarcN> MayorMcCheese: google around for 'dual head'.
[11:29] <globe> MarcN: yep.  ping and whois also work from within X. firefox only finds websites if I feed it the url
[11:29] <polpak> olicat, by default ubuntu doesn't install an ssh server
[11:29] <Falstius> MayorMcCheese: or twinview or xinerama
[11:29] <cafuego> !find wico
[11:29] <ubotu> xpm2wico: (An Xpm to Windows .ico converter), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.2.4.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[11:29] <nekostar> polpak, im telling you how it acts
[11:30] <nekostar> it doesnt play nice with my linksys router etc
[11:30] <MarcN> globe: do you have firefox set to use a proxy?  What do you mean by 'feed it the url'?
[11:30] <mwe> cafuego: you know you can use apt-cache search and spare us the spam?
[11:30] <Sepheebear> MayorMcCheese: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[11:31] <stark-johan> I've installed apache and it works fine but one thing I dont get. How do I restart it to make config changes without rebooting?
[11:31] <mwe> cafuego: or /msg the bot
[11:31] <yves---> Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?
[11:31] <robotgeek> cafuego: :)
[11:31] <globe> MarcN: I meant 'feed it the ip' .  Firefox is set to 'direct internet connection' (all proxy features off)
[11:31] <apokryphos> mwe: might be worth noting that ubotu is cafuego's bot :)
[11:31] <cafuego> mwe: No, really? I can /msg it?
[11:31] <mwe> stark-johan: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:31] <hosler> Help! I installed a new cpu fan, but now my computer wont start.
[11:31] <Sepheebear> stark-johan: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:31] <mwe> apokryphos: I see.
[11:31] <mwe> :)
[11:32] <robotgeek> lol
[11:32] <PeteyPablo> hosler: did you ground your self when installing it?
[11:32] <globe> hosler: is it plugged in correctly (not backwards?)
[11:32] <Falstius> hosler, that could be a lot of things.  If you don't want to damage your computer, you should probably take it to a computer expert or repair service.
[11:32] <hosler> PeteyPablo: yes
[11:32] <hosler> globe: yes
[11:32] <olicat> hmm, now nothing works on the server. no web, apt, etc - but still irc
[11:33] <MarcN> globe:  try this:       $ telnet www.cnn.com 80
[11:33] <MarcN> GET / HTTP/1.1
[11:33] <stark-johan> thanks guys. I've only used one linux machine before and on that one I used "service httpd" for apache
[11:33] <shawarma> hosler: How far does it get?
[11:33] <kbrooks> stark-johan, redhat or fedora
[11:33] <hosler> shawarma: no where
[11:33] <stark-johan> ok
[11:33] <shawarma> hosler: That's not an answer.
[11:33] <globe> MarcN - it works just fine.  telnet fetches the ip and connects.
[11:33] <cafuego> ubotu: mwe hates you. Go away.
[11:33] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[11:33] <kbrooks> stark-johan, also, you're running a linux distribution
[11:34] <mwe> cafuego: gg
[11:34] <hosler> shawarma: i turn it on and it does nothing. no beeps and no info on screen
[11:34] <shawarma> hosler: Do any of the fans start?
[11:34] <hosler> shawarma: yeah all the fans start
[11:34] <kbrooks> stark-johan, not necessarily a "linux machine"
[11:34] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay, I did that . . . and I'm still getting the error.  I've tried closing Totem and remounting the drive, is there anything I need to do for these changes to take effect?
[11:34] <MarcN> globe: strange. firefox and telnet, etc all use the same library calls which check /etc/resolv.conf.  Reasonable stuff in there, right?
[11:34] <globe> hosler: does the fan spin when you turn it on?
[11:34] <hosler> globe: yes
[11:34] <shawarma> hosler: ...but no beeps of anything?
[11:35] <hosler> shawarma: no beeps
[11:35] <SealyDave> not posting
[11:35] <stark-johan> a computermachine :-)
[11:35] <shawarma> hosler: Check your RAM and your graphics adapter.
[11:35] <hosler> shawarma: check for being loose?
[11:35] <SealyDave> Power on Self Test =negative
[11:35] <shawarma> hosler: Something like that.
[11:35] <hosler> k
[11:35] <yves---> Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?
[11:36] <robotgeek> yves---: hmm, sure
[11:36] <globe> MarcN: yep.  it seems to be fine.   I had problems earlier with dns because of two dhcp servers on my lan, but I fixed that.  then I had to chattr +i resolv.conf, but now everything but ff uses the dns correctly.  I even went as far as to restart x
[11:36] <yves---> thx robotgeek
[11:36] <shawarma> yves---: alt-f2 and then "gnome-terminal" or "xterm"
[11:37] <bob832> olicat:  walked away from the keyboard....is your problem fixed?
[11:37] <robotgeek> yves---: System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps
[11:37] <MarcN> globe: and did you restart firefox?
[11:37] <yves---> shawarma, still shuts down...
[11:37] <cafuego> apokryphos: That should do it.
[11:37] <robotgeek> yves---: go to terminal tab, and select gnome-terminal
[11:37] <yves---> robotgeek, goin' there now
[11:37] <apokryphos> cafuego: ok, will test
[11:37] <globe> MarcN, yep.  I am going to reboot computer, I think
[11:38] <shawarma> yves---: Ok.. Do what robotgeek is saying. It sounds right. ;-)
[11:38] <yves---> robotgeek, I am in there
[11:38] <apokryphos_> cafuego: doesn't seem to respond, still
[11:38] <shawarma> hosler: Any luck?
[11:39] <stark-johan> another apache question: I've mounted a fat32 filesystem and then made a --bind to a part of it (my webroot) from /var/www/. The fat system is mounted with 000 or "no permissions", is this unsafe and/or is there a better way of directing my http-visitors to the actual webroot?
[11:39] <thoeger> Hi there -  Another question: Is it safe to empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?
[11:39] <shawarma> stark-johan: It won't work if the permissions are 000.
[11:39] <cafuego> apokryphos_: Ok, then now it's a freenode issue, not an ubotu one :-)
[11:40] <yves---> robotgeek, I am in System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps
[11:40] <ossie> guys i want to make a backup of my current install what do u reccommed , preferably in the form of an image i can deploy back
[11:40] <robotgeek> yves---: are you saying that gnome-terminal crashes?
[11:40] <yves---> yep
[11:40] <shawarma> yves---: Can you explain what you did that make it stop working?
[11:40] <apokryphos> cafuego: you can change ubotu's modes, no?
[11:40] <shawarma> brb
[11:40] <mwe> stark-johan: I think I'd prefer a symlink
[11:40] <cafuego> apokryphos: The bot will -E, so as soon as freenode disable the forced +e it'll be fixed.
[11:40] <yves---> robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(
[11:40] <hosler> shawarma: no luck
[11:40] <cafuego> apokryphos: Yes, but ubotu isn't +E now.
[11:40] <apokryphos> cafuego: if so you can alter it so that he can receive/respond to /msgs from unidentified users
[11:41] <yves---> robotgeek, but the superuser shell works
[11:41] <stark-johan> mve > would a symlink be better than an alias?
[11:41] <cafuego> apokryphos: I think the network re-enforces it.
[11:41] <robotgeek> yves---: okay, go to the terminal tab, and select standard xterm for now
[11:41] <apokryphos> cafuego: you can still override it though with individual umode settings; one sec, I'll get the command.
[11:41] <Falstius> is there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?
[11:42] <yves---> robotgeek, done... still crashes :(
[11:42] <cafuego> Falstius: Not until macromedia pull their finger out. Same goes for java and mplayer.
[11:42] <Kindred> Falstius: nope
[11:42] <robotgeek> yves---: hmm, one sec
[11:42] <epp> hey is there a nice editor for java?
[11:42] <skon> BlueFish :-D
[11:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: ping?
[11:43] <Seveas> apokryphos, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[11:43] <mwe> there isn't even sun-java for 64bit?!
[11:43] <cafuego> Seveas: What, no timeout-exceeded? ;-)
[11:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: :). Do you remember by any chance the chanserv command to allow non-registered users to /msg you? Can't seem to find it again.
[11:43] <cafuego> mwe: There is, but that has no working plugin.
[11:43] <Seveas> cafuego, *g* no, rsync leaves some bandwidth ;)
[11:43] <cafuego> apokryphos: Isn't it just unmode -E?
[11:44] <epp> what is the name of an editor for java?
[11:44] <cafuego> s/n//
[11:44] <robotgeek> yves---: what exactly did you change?
[11:44] <Seveas> apokryphos, /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[11:44] <Falstius> epp, eclipse is the nice ide I think.
[11:44] <apokryphos> that's it, thanks
[11:44] <mwe> epp: vim, nano, emacs, kate, gedit, ...
[11:44] <cafuego> apokryphos/Seveas: Ok, lemme see...
[11:44] <epp> mwe, do these have a compile button in them?
[11:44] <yves---> robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(
[11:45] <apokryphos> there was me poking around in chanserv, gah.
[11:45] <mwe> epp: compile button. no.
[11:45] <Kaminix> How do I compile something with an older version of gcc?
[11:45] <robotgeek> yves---: from where?
[11:45] <epp> mwe, is there one that does?
[11:45] <mwe> epp: you want eclipse, I think
[11:45] <epp> ok
[11:45] <mwe> epp: it's an ide though
[11:45] <adam_> hi all
[11:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[11:45] <epp> mwe, ide?
[11:46] <robotgeek> yves---: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[11:46] <ossie> make oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?
[11:46] <yves---> robotgeek, from the edit menu within the terminal... I think
[11:46] <thoeger> Sorry if I'm flooding... Is it safe to remove (almost) everything in my /usr/share/doc ?
[11:46] <epp> mwe i cant find it in apt.
[11:46] <mwe> epp: integrated development environment
[11:46] <robotgeek> Kaminix: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (or whatever)
[11:46] <yves---> robotgeek, am in config editor
[11:46] <robotgeek> yves---: /apps/gnome-terminal/global/default_profile
[11:47] <mwe> epp: you need to enable universe then sudo apt-get update
[11:47] <epp> i did...
[11:47] <epp> breezy universe...
[11:47] <ITSa341> Good Evening everyone
[11:47] <adam_> i'm desperate to move from windows but ubuntu doesn't do all the things i want it to...  are there better distro's to start with or is there a good source for those wanting to jump from the dark side?
[11:47] <jcink> Hi, sorry to ask such a n00bish question, but I cant find this in docs, I'm wondering what are the minimum system requirements to run Ubuntu? Thanks.
[11:47] <Hikaru79> What is the difference between the FDISK partition types "W95 FAT32" and "W95 FAT32 (LBA)"? What does the 'LBA' signify?
[11:47] <epp> adam_ what do u need to do?
[11:47] <Hikaru79> jcink, quite low.
[11:47] <Benjamin_L> can somebody help me on this one ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110187
[11:48] <adam_> install Freemind for example
[11:48] <shawarma> hosler: How old is the machine?
[11:48] <mwe> epp: and apt-cache search eclipse-sdk doesn't give a hit?
[11:48] <epp> oh... yeah
[11:48] <Kaminix> robotgeek: I have /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, but setting cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 doesn't work. =/
[11:48] <epp> my bad
[11:48] <adam_> should be easy but so many things have gone wrong
[11:48] <alex323> What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?
[11:48] <adam_> i don;t even now where to install app's too
[11:48] <Chousuke> Kaminix: you need to set CC
[11:48] <McJerry> adam_ y not install ubuntu then install windows in VMware? that will keep your winapps handy
[11:48] <Chousuke> not cc
[11:48] <epp> adam_ u tried to install ubuntu already?
[11:48] <Kaminix> I tried both.
[11:48] <Chousuke> Kaminix: Case-sensitive ;P
[11:48] <yves---> robotgeek, am in default_profile. Entry says "super-utilisateur", which is something I made :(
[11:48] <adam_> tried installing vmware player but that failed
[11:48] <mwe> alex323: learn to use apt-file search
[11:48] <ossie> make oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?
[11:49] <skon> epp: I already said BlueFish
[11:49] <Chousuke> Kaminix: did you export it?
[11:49] <adam_> am running ubuntu on a dual boot machine
[11:49] <Benjamin_L> how do I check whether  X or gdm doesn't start up?
[11:49] <thoeger> jcink: what do you want to use for it?
[11:49] <Kaminix> Chousuke, what? Export?
[11:49] <robotgeek> yves---: change that entry to Default, and the next entry to [Default] 
[11:49] <Chousuke> export CC=whatever
[11:49] <McJerry> adam_: linux is linux, Ubuntu just starts you out with prepackaged software....you can add or take away to any distro
[11:49] <epp> adam_, did u use apt?
[11:49] <yves---> robotgeek, yesssss. It works :o)
[11:49] <yves---> thx man
[11:49] <robotgeek> Kaminix: if you are saying on the basis of gcc -v, then you are mistaken
[11:49] <robotgeek> yves---: np
[11:49] <adam_> for freemind?  No...
[11:49] <adam_> ok, McJerry
[11:49] <Kaminix> I typed ./configure cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (it said lower case in the help-file, allthough I tried both)
[11:50] <McJerry> adam_: what failed with VMware
[11:50] <yves---> robotgeek, gooday then.
[11:50] <rev> what causes this error/how do i fix it when compiling ubuntu kernel (git) with make-kpkg? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6393
[11:50] <mwe> alex323: however, on my machine it returns lessdisks-terminal: sbin/start-stop-daemon
[11:50] <robotgeek> Kaminix: ./configure script will pick up 3.4
[11:50] <yves---> robotgeek, keep up the good work :)
[11:50] <epp> adam, if u cant get ubuntu to work then i would go with mandriva... its mostly meant for home users.
[11:50] <Kaminix> No, it picks up 4.x
[11:50] <adam_> just wondered whether any were more ~"ready to go"... rather than having to install all sorts of stuff to even view news at bbc
[11:50] <robotgeek> yves---: sure :)
[11:50] <alex323> apt-file?
[11:50] <epp> adam, the easyest way to install stuff is to use apt.
[11:50] <alex323> I don't have that installed.
[11:51] <PeteyPablo> sudo apt-get install programname
[11:51] <mwe> alex323: install it
[11:51] <Benjamin_L> anyone ? I think I miss a package but I don't know which ^^
[11:51] <alex323> What's the package?
[11:51] <adam_> McJerry... I got some error message abut a C Compiler not being present so I took someone's advice (from the Southend-on-Sea LUG and upgraded GCC
[11:51] <adam_> DOH
[11:51] <alpha255> what about synaptic?
[11:51] <hosler> shawarma: i fixed it. i had a heat censor for under my cpu which didnt let the cpu get installed snuggly enough. took that out and let my cpu fan go full throttle and it worked.
[11:51] <PeteyPablo> synaptic sucks
[11:51] <cafuego> apokryphos: Ok, if this works I am teh l33+ perl hacker.
[11:51] <robotgeek> Kaminix: that is so very weird
[11:51] <alpha255> nice gui for installing right?
[11:51] <alex323> Never mind.
[11:51] <mwe> alex323: the package is apt-file :)
[11:51] <epp> alpha255, synaptic shows all the packages ready for download for ubuntu on the net.
[11:52] <alpha255> yep
[11:52] <Eleaf> adam_, do you have the build-essentials package installed?
[11:52] <alpha255> works well for me
[11:52] <Kaminix> ERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x
[11:52] <Kaminix> QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x
[11:52] <Kaminix> It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU
[11:52] <Kaminix> To use this compiler anyway, configure with --disable-gcc-check
[11:52] <alpha255> nice gui for newbie
[11:52] <mwe> Kaminix: don't paste in here
[11:52] <Kaminix> Wops, it was supposed to pm everything.
[11:52] <Kaminix> Sorry
[11:52] <adam_> Eleaf... I've no idea what you're talking about I'm afraid... I know Windows but have no idea how to get Linux to do what I know I want to
[11:52] <cafuego> apokryphos: 09:52.28 NickServ: <== 'Toggled UnFiltered [ON] '
[11:52] <globe> how can I get screen rez up to decent size?  screen res applet wont let me > 800x600
[11:53] <apokryphos> cafuego: cool
[11:53] <lampshade> I installed Fluxbox, But I have a weird problem where none of the menu items work.  It has to be an error with my menu files, but how can I fix this
[11:53] <Eleaf> adam_, sudo apt-get install build-essential that has some basic compiler tools
[11:53] <mwe> !tell globe about fixres
[11:53] <alpha255> globe, what you running breezy?
[11:53] <mwe> globe: see what ubotu /msg'ed you
[11:53] <N6REJ> does anyone know how to control permissions on a LVM partition?
[11:53] <Kaminix> Should I try removing /usr/bin/gcc and replace it with a symlink to gcc-3.4? Or is that a bad idea?
[11:53] <ossie> hi cafuego , im trying to compile kernel, and i have run the make oldconfig command and made a mistake, now it dont prompt me for any input when i run it, how can i delete it and start again
[11:54] <jdier> lampshade open the .fluxbox menu file and edit it manually.
[11:54] <thoeger> alpha255: I agree. Don't know what's so bad about synaptics...
[11:54] <mevvis> anyone using Dapper??
[11:54] <Benjamin_L> does anyone know whats the problem when gdm tries to start (maybe X) and it flickers and all I get is a black screen, but the monitor is on
[11:54] <alpha255> thoeger, it's good for newbie and gui interface
[11:54] <globe> mwe....I am using irssi-text : how do I see pm?
[11:54] <robotgeek> ossie: make distclean
[11:54] <thoeger> alpha255: perfectly aggree
[11:54] <mwe> Benjamin_L: you have to look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:54] <alpha255> thoeger, for servers... cli is the only way
[11:54] <thoeger> Benjamin_L: On breezy or dapper?
[11:54] <robotgeek> globe: alt + 1/2/3
[11:54] <ossie> thanx robotgeek
[11:54] <apokryphos> Kaminix: that actually should be fine; do it for g++ too
[11:54] <adam_> Eleaf... just installed them
[11:55] <thoeger> alpha255: Sure. But most Ubuntu users are running desktops, not servers.
[11:55] <Eleaf> adam_, are you so excited?
[11:55] <robotgeek> apokryphos: is it export CXX
[11:55] <globe> mwe: thanks
[11:55] <adam_> can barely sit still
[11:55] <globe> robotgeek: thanks
[11:55] <mwe> globe: it should open a new window with the msg. use alt-n (n being a number) to switch windows
[11:55] <adam_> ;-)
[11:55] <Benjamin_L> thoeger, dapper, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110187
[11:55] <adam_> dir
[11:55] <alpha255> thoeger, i'd agree
[11:55] <jdier> lampshade - you have to change your .fluxbox/init file to include the line session.menuFile:	~/.fluxbox/menu
[11:55] <alpha255> with that
[11:55] <apokryphos> robotgeek: I forget how to search for exported variables; not sure what to set, either. Pretty sure you can specify it on configure though
[11:55] <alpha255> it's a nice desktop
[11:56] <thoeger> Sorry if I'm flooding... Can I sefaly empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?
[11:56] <alpha255> and easy to install debian
[11:56] <shea> might there be any maya/ubuntu users around?
[11:56] <robotgeek> apokryphos: printenv
[11:56] <ossie> robotgeek, do u know what the m/n/ stand for when compile a kernel, for instance, BLK_DEV [n/m/?]  i choose M thinking that is yes????
[11:56] <jdier> then you have to create ~/.fluxbox.menu
[11:56] <thoeger> Benjamin_L: Sorry; I'm running Breezy
[11:56] <apokryphos> robotgeek: thanks
[11:56] <robotgeek> ossie: not include/or compile as module/help
[11:56] <N6REJ> anyone help with LVM ?
[11:57] <ossie> if i want to include it should i use n or m ???
[11:57] <robotgeek> ossie: yes, module should be fine
[11:57] <mwe> apokryphos: isn't setting CC to the compiler version you want to use usually sufficient?
[11:57] <apokryphos> robotgeek: symlinks would be fine. They should've made a dpkg-reconfigure for this
[11:57] <ossie> cheers robotgeek
[11:57] <robotgeek> apokryphos: yes, a /etc/alternatives for gcc would be nice
[11:57] <apokryphos> mwe: if that's what it was, then yes.
[11:57] <epp> is there a program to hook my pda to linux?
[11:57] <epp> is there a program to hook my pda to linux?
[11:57] <globe> what is Horay?
[11:58] <Benjamin_L> mwe, how do I get the log from last boot ?
[11:58] <jdier> does anyone know how to make alt-tab show open apps from all of my available desktops?
[11:58] <Eleaf> globe, Horay is what you say when you are happy.  Ubuntu Hoary is the older version of ubuntu.
[11:58] <mwe> Benjamin_L: /var/log/Xorg.1.log IIRC
[11:58] <ossie> sorry to keep on robotgeek , what tool do u reccommend for making a backup of ubuntu as i have a habit of reinstalling all the time, would be nice to have a backup instead , like a image
[11:59] <globe> Eleaf ;-D
[11:59] <apokryphos> ossie: good idea to have your /home on a seperate partition
[11:59] <lucasvo> ossie: just backup /etc/, /home, /var/
[11:59] <robotgeek> ossie: hmm, i am not sure. i don't reinstall at all. yes, a separate /home is a neat idea
[11:59] <polpak> apokryphos, indeed. having /home on it's own partition can be invaluable
[11:59] <lucasvo> ossie: /etc/ for configs, /home for your files, /var for logs and other things
[11:59] <ossie> apokryphos, im having major problems formating and partioning with linux, not just ubuntu either
[12:00] <lucasvo> ossie: why?
[12:00] <N6REJ> robotgeek, you have any idea where to get help for LVM?