[12:04] <DaSkreech> Yon: Have you called the ISP?
[12:05] <Yon> it works in windows
[12:06] <Yon> is there any special setting i need to do other then add the account name and password
[12:07] <Yon> help me
[12:07] <Yon> plz
[12:07] <DaSkreech> what settings are you using?
[12:07] <robotgeek> Yon: i have no experience with dialup, sorry
[12:08] <_dodo_> hallo! I need help, i've downloaded a new graphics card driver and i'll have to edit xorg.conf, but i dont know howto =)
[12:08] <Yon> wat do u mean DaSkreech
[12:08] <Yon> ?
[12:08] <DaSkreech> Yon: Kppp>
[12:08] <DaSkreech> ?
[12:09] <Yon> yes
[12:09] <DaSkreech> You have your Modem configured correctly?
[12:09] <Yon> i didnt touch anything other then adding the password and username
[12:09] <Yon> i dont know DaSkreech
[12:10] <DaSkreech> Look at configure
[12:10] <Yon> i cant now, i need to reboot and cheak
[12:10] <Yon> wat else am i looking 4
[12:10] <DaSkreech> ah :-) Of course
[12:11] <DaSkreech> Is Windows on NTFS?
[12:11] <Yon> yes
[12:11] <DaSkreech> hmm
[12:11] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu can see it?
[12:12] <Yon> wat do u mean it?
[12:12] <Yon> wat do u mean?**
[12:12] <DaSkreech> When you are in Kubuntu Can you go to /media and see the Windows Hard Drive?
[12:13] <Yon> yes
[12:13] <Yon> i can mount it
[12:13] <Yon> but where u going with this?
[12:14] <kkathman> DaSkreech: you are doing fine...keep going...Yon, be patient
[12:14] <DaSkreech> Do some research on the Internet for PPP (i suggest tldp.org or Linmodems.org) and the documentation for KPPP
[12:15] <DaSkreech> Any thing you find that can be useful save it to the hard drive
[12:15] <DaSkreech> That way you can open it and follow it in Kubuntu
[12:15] <Yon> kk thx
[12:15] <Yon> so u dont know wat the problem is?
[12:16] <Yon> have u ever used a dialup on kubuntu before?
[12:17] <DaSkreech> no :-)
[12:17] <DaSkreech> But I have used dialup before
[12:17] <DaSkreech> I admit I had an external modem which makes life much easier
[12:18] <Yon> i also have one, the thing is, i dial up, and it gives me authentication problems
[12:18] <Yon> i dont know why
[12:19] <Yon> password and all is correct
[12:19] <Lacerta> can i make a program to run in system tray if i want?
[12:19] <DaSkreech> you may need to call the ISP and ask if they have any support for non Microsoft OS
[12:20] <DaSkreech> I know of one that told me I had to have Windows to authenticate
[12:20] <Yon> ok, ill try that
[12:20] <Yon> do u think that if i get a diffrent program to dial up it will help?
[12:20] <DaSkreech> Most likely it's some simple setting that needs to be set
[12:21] <Yon> i know! but i dont knwo wat settings
[12:21] <Yon> i dont know wat they need to be
[12:21] <DaSkreech> Call :)
[12:21] <Yon> im a newbie!!!
[12:23] <Yon> u in linux now?
[12:23] <DaSkreech> si
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Well if you look at the help file for kppp it should explain nearly all of the settings
[12:24] <Yon> one of the conpifs is whether its hardware / software or none, wat do i pick?
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Read through it and you'll get a better understanding of what to ask
[12:24] <Yon> kk, ill try
[12:24] <Yon> ill prob brb
[12:24] <DaSkreech> That's most likely hardware if you have an external modem :)
[12:24] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just did a fresh kubunut install yesterday, then updated all kde components, Im still having problems with administrator mode not working, any help please?
[12:25] <Knowerrors> kubuntu :)
[12:26] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: use kdesu kcontrol?
[12:26] <Knowerrors> It looks like dcopserver is already running
[12:26] <AnotherData> can some one help me fix kde it is missing some packages
[12:27] <Knowerrors> tried systemsettings first, then just tried kdesu kcontrol and I get that message about dcopserver
[12:27] <Hobbsee> what dcopserver message?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> AnotherData: which packages?  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:27] <Knowerrors> "It looks like dcopserver is already running"
[12:28] <Hobbsee> killall dcopserver?
[12:28] <AnotherData> for kde 3.5
[12:28] <Hobbsee> and i dont think kde even starts without it...
[12:28] <bccs> hi everyone
[12:28] <Hobbsee> hi bccs
[12:28] <bccs> how can i set the default webbrowser?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> AnotherData: which packages?
[12:28] <kkathman> Hobbsee: it doesnt
[12:28] <AnotherData> about 6-7 of them
[12:28] <Hobbsee> kkathman: oh good, i'm not going insane!
[12:28] <AnotherData> not sure which
[12:28] <kkathman> nope
[12:29] <AnotherData> ill have to check
[12:29] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/484773
[12:29] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: why are you logged in as root?
[12:30] <kkathman> just asking for trouble
[12:30] <Hobbsee> and then they expect it to all work without a problem...i dont know...
[12:30] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Like Windows users :-)
[12:30] <kkathman> exactly - I think that should basically void all help lol
[12:30] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: Im not
[12:31] <kkathman> hehe
[12:31] <AnotherData> i need kdepim kdemultimedia kdelibs kdegraphics kdegames etc
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: really?
[12:31] <rev> someone here knows what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6393
[12:31] <kkathman> AnotherData: install them if you need them :)
[12:31] <AnotherData> i tried
[12:31] <Knowerrors> don't even have root enabled
[12:32] <Knowerrors> nice guess though, I know more than that
[12:32] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: for sure
[12:32] <Knowerrors> logged in as user
[12:32] <Hobbsee> i'd try rm /root/.DCOPserver_ubuntu__0 for a start...
[12:32] <Hobbsee> then run dcopserver
[12:32] <Knowerrors> I think that is a sudo generated file
[12:33] <Hobbsee> it shouldnt be generated there - it's supposed to be in your home directory...
[12:33] <Knowerrors> sudo pretends youre root right?
[12:33] <Hobbsee> gives you root for that command...yes...i think so
[12:33] <Hobbsee> rev: no clue, sorry
[12:33] <Knowerrors> Arrgh: It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/flow/.DCOPserver_ubuntu__0 and start dcopserver again.
[12:34] <kkathman> Knowerrors:  try this:  getent group root
[12:34] <Knowerrors> actually, I just checked on my kde files, the update didn't finish, so Im still running breezy kde packs, finishing the d/l right now
[12:35] <Knowerrors> og from cd
[12:35] <Knowerrors> root:x:0:
[12:35] <kkathman> ok thats good
[12:36] <Hobbsee> ie, any dcopserver files in your home dir that you find
[12:36] <kkathman> good point Hobbsee
[12:36] <kkathman> it should regen right?
[12:36] <Hobbsee> then let them recreate
[12:36] <Hobbsee> eys
[12:36] <Hobbsee> *yes
[12:36] <kkathman> Hobbsee: there isnt a dcop init I dont think
[12:37] <Knowerrors> hmmm, ok, will try that
[12:37] <Knowerrors> brb
[12:37] <Hobbsee> kkathman: what do you mean?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> it starts during login, which is where i get error messages sometimes
[12:37] <kkathman> some .kde files and server have an init that you can run to "reinitialize"
[12:37] <kkathman> I dont think dcop does tho
[12:38] <kkathman> so you have to just kill its support and have it touch those on reboot
[12:39] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:39] <kkathman> right?
[12:39] <Tm_T> kkathman & Hobbsee o/
[12:40] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T
[12:40] <kkathman> howdy Tm_T :)
[12:40] <Hobbsee> i think so - i know that they do get autocreated when you log in, if they're not there - i dont recall having to touch them
[12:41] <Tm_T> hullo and good night, maybe I really try to sleep x.x ->
[12:43] <mase> how do i get hte latest version of libstdc++
[12:43] <mase> 6
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !info libstdc++6
[12:44] <ubotu> libstdc++6: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is important. Version: 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 345 kB, Installed size: 1032 kB
[12:44] <Hobbsee> mase: just sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[12:44] <Hobbsee> if you get stuck like this again, use the package manager, with a search, or use apt-cache search :)
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: how'd it go?
[12:44] <mase> i want the latest version..
[12:45] <mase> amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[12:45] <mase>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[12:45] <mase> because of this.
[12:45] <mase> i have .1-4 not .1-9
[12:45] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: ok, kdesu kcontrol works now, but admin mode won't work it I launch systemsettings, or kcontrol
[12:45] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: i'm not sure that it ever has - that's where you use the kdesu
[12:46] <Knowerrors> actually, kcontrol just worked, systemsettings won't work win admin mode
[12:47] <Knowerrors> with admin mode
[12:47] <Hobbsee> kdesu system settings?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> not sure - i never use system settings anyway
[12:47] <Knowerrors> naw, just plain systemsettings, clicking on admin mode button
[12:47] <benl> hey
[12:47] <kkathman> Knowerrors: I thought that the first breezy update fixed the admin mode in system settings...did on my system
[12:47] <benl> can someone help me with something simple?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> benl: what's your question
[12:48] <Knowerrors> yeah, it system settings seemed buggy the first time I did a kubuntu breezy install, this is my second 5.10 install on the same box
[12:48] <mase> hey Hobbsee  do you have a good sources.list
[12:48] <kkathman> Hobbsee: did you get that newest update to the LInux kernel for breezy
[12:48] <benl> Im fairly new to linux in general, but i can't seem to run the make and make install command
[12:48] <benl> it doesn't recognize the command in kubuntu
[12:48] <benl> and im trying to install a usb wireless driver
[12:48] <benl> in my fresh install
[12:48] <Knowerrors> kkathman: yeah, that breezy update didn't fix it for me
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !tell mase about sources
[12:49] <Hobbsee> kkathman: ah, which was this, and how long ago did it come out?
[12:49] <kkathman> benl sometimes there isnt a makefile there...look for maybe an .sh file
[12:49] <Hobbsee> benl: sudo apt-get install buildessential
[12:49] <Hobbsee> benl: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <benl> yea, there is a makefile there
[12:49] <Hobbsee> the second one
[12:49] <Knowerrors> kkathman: or did you mean the kubuntu default settings update?
[12:49] <kkathman> ahh then do what Hobbsee said then
[12:49] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:49] <benl> I had my linux friend check it out earlier, hes not used to this distro though
[12:49] <kkathman> Knowerrors: nah I meant the systemsettings admin mode fix
[12:49] <benl> he couldnt get make or make install to work either
[12:49] <benl> I tried the root console and the regular shell
[12:50] <kkathman> Hobbsee: came out at least a couple days ago...-10-386 v27
[12:50] <Knowerrors> kkathman: what kde package handles that?
[12:50] <benl> make: command not found
[12:50] <benl> thats all that happens
[12:50] <Hobbsee> benl: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:50] <kkathman> Knowerrors: Im not sure, but I used to not be able to get to Admin mode..but that first adept update to breezy fixed it for me
[12:51] <mase> Hobbsee, i said a GOOD source list, not a default one
[12:51] <mase> and that "create your own" doesnt work
[12:51] <kkathman> Hobbsee: its in my adept updater
[12:51] <Knowerrors> mase: try source-o-matic
[12:51] <benl> ok.. lemme try that
[12:51] <mase> Knowerrors, it doesnt work, as i said
[12:51] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i'm not sure that i did - i dont remember any updates yesterday, and i hadnt booted to breezy in ages before that
[12:52] <Knowerrors> hmm, works for me, try removing the country code from the beginning of all the lines
[12:52] <kkathman> mase get the default source list its just fine
[12:52] <Knowerrors> mase: like if youre in us remove the us.*** and leave ***
[12:52] <kkathman> yep
[12:52] <kkathman> all the entries should just be archive.ubuntu.......
[12:53] <mase> alright thakns
[12:53] <Hobbsee> easysource works here...
[12:53] <Hobbsee> few extra repositories that i've never seen before, but dont want to try anyway
[12:53] <kkathman> lol
[12:54] <kkathman> I dunno Hobbsee some default ones seem to have the universe disabled on lines 19 and 20
[12:54] <kkathman> I had maybe 3-5 instances of that recently
[12:54] <Hobbsee> that's weird - doesnt seem much wrong with universe
[12:54] <Knowerrors> I broke mine two days ago by typing "sudo rm -R /*" was trying to just remove one directory
[12:55] <kkathman> there isnt Hobbsee but I think some source SOMEWHERE has it disabled and a bunch of people got it
[12:55] <Knowerrors> luckily I had my home dir on a seperate partition
[12:56] <kkathman> how do you accidently type that to remove 1 directory??   why not rm -rf <dir>
[12:56] <kkathman> that way unless you put in \ you are ok :)
[12:57] <kkathman> well the other slash actually :)
[12:57] <jahshua> can anyone tell me, whats the major differences between ubuntu and kubuntu
[12:58] <DaSkreech> One more letter
[12:58] <Knowerrors> kkathman: I was tired when I typed that
[12:58] <kkathman> ahhh Ive been there man :)
[12:58] <Hobbsee> kkathman: eek!
[12:58] <Knowerrors> it erased everything through etc and dev before I stopped it
[12:59] <Hobbsee> jahshua: one has gnome, one has kde
[12:59] <kkathman> jahshua: kubuntu has kde ubuntu has gnome
[12:59] <Hobbsee> :P
[12:59] <kkathman> ^5s Hobbsee :)
[12:59] <jahshua> thats it?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> yes
[12:59] <kkathman> thats it
[12:59] <kkathman> but thats significant
[01:00] <Knowerrors> are there extra packages needed to get "gtk styles/fonts engine" to use kde style/font in gtk?
[01:00] <jahshua> but i can use gnome with with my kubuntu
[01:00] <mase> can someone link me to the .deb of libstdc++6 4.0.2 ..
[01:00] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: on breezy, it's installed by default
[01:00] <jahshua> so i dont really see the difference :|
[01:00] <Hobbsee> jahshua: yes
[01:00] <kkathman> mase use apt-cache search libstdc
[01:00] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: well its not theming them right...
[01:01] <mase> kkathman, they only go up to 4.0 ... no further
[01:01] <kkathman> Hobbsee: in general when you install a new kernel update you have to adept it down then do a dist-upgrade right?
[01:01] <mase> and when i do apt-get install libstdc++6 it says its already newest..
[01:01] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: actually, I take that back, firefox is fine, but synaptic isn't
[01:01] <mase> lies LIES
[01:02] <mase> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/libstdc++6-4.0-dev
[01:02] <mase> i found it here, but how do i get it
[01:02] <kkathman> mase then you dont need that particular package...maybe the headers?
[01:02] <kkathman> I dunno
[01:03] <kkathman> I dont compile all that much, but when I do, I dont seem to have any probs :)
[01:03] <jahshua> and what the major differences with Debian and Ubuntu/Kubuntu ?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i dont use adept, but update, dist-upgrade seems to work
[01:03] <kkathman> jahshua: lots of difference there
[01:03] <kkathman> jahshua: two different distributions
[01:03] <mase> amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[01:03] <mase>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[01:03] <mase> fucking thing
[01:03] <Knowerrors> jahshua: ubuntu has more up to date packages, and uses sudo by default alot
[01:03] <kkathman> mase please watch the language
[01:04] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: not sure how to force it - seems to be a case of experimentation
[01:04] <sampan> ubuntu also has friendly/helpful support, while debian is "blessed" with many rude people ;x
[01:04] <Knowerrors> jahshua: but its based on Debian, and syncs with Debian from time to time
[01:04] <Hobbsee> mase: language
[01:04] <Hobbsee> darned lag...
[01:04] <kkathman> Knowerrors: uhmm... roughly but there's no ties to it really, except the base is similar
[01:04] <Knowerrors> jahshua: Debian is far more stable and bug free though, but less user friendsly
[01:05] <Knowerrors> depending on which version of Debian
[01:05] <jahshua> ok
[01:06] <Knowerrors> jahshua: if you want a good version of Debian to compare to ubuntu, try GenieOS, it has a very easy installer, better than ubuntus, and gives you all the media plugins/condecs installed
[01:06] <Knowerrors> but its based on Sarge, so all the programs are older, though very stable
[01:07] <Yon> ok now i did everything
[01:07] <jahshua> ok
[01:07] <jahshua> thank you
[01:07] <mase> will it have the latest fucking version of libstdc++6 ?
[01:07] <mase> if it will im already downloading it
[01:07] <Hobbsee> mase, you've been warned about language already
[01:07] <Yon> can sum 1 help me with setting up the net, under scrip
[01:08] <friskolen> I thought i was installing flash with aptitude install flash, but its not working. Any sugestions?
[01:09] <kkathman> In my opinion, ubuntu is very stable but too many people play too much with their stuff and break things
[01:09] <Hobbsee> well that made that easy...
[01:09] <Yon> DaSkreech u here?
[01:09] <sampan> kkathman  i dunno - having non-function IME is really, well, rather sad for a distro that touts itself as highly international
[01:09] <bccs> i'm trying to update kubuntu, so i can use the lastest version of firefox, but i cant make it work.
[01:09] <sampan> broken SCIM is just ... sad
[01:09] <kkathman> sampan: agree
[01:10] <Yon> how do i use a windows modem to dialup in linux
[01:10] <kkathman> bccs you dont need to update kubuntu to get the latest firefox
[01:10] <Yon> 56k
[01:10] <sampan> i suspect it's a clear casualty of the too-fast 6 month release schedule
[01:10] <bccs> you mean, using Adept?
[01:11] <Yon> can any1 help me plz?
[01:11] <bccs> I commanded "Fetch Updates", and it says there's nothing to do. Still, my firefox version is 1.0.7.
[01:12] <Knowerrors> Yon: use kppp
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !tell bccs about firefox1.5
[01:12] <bccs> can someone help me with this one?
[01:12] <Yon> i am
[01:12] <Knowerrors> Yon: but not with a winmodem
[01:12] <jahshua> hello, i have just put in a LiteOn cd burner which uses usb but its not coming up on my desktop .. i want to use it to burn images.. can anyone tell me what i need t do ?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> bccs: see your private message
[01:12] <bccs> sorry. tks!
[01:12] <Yon> i only have a winmodem
[01:12] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:12] <Yon> i dail up and all
[01:13] <Knowerrors> Yon: go buy a cheap external serial modem, that will work right away, I got one for $10 used
[01:13] <Yon> but the authentication i get problems
[01:13] <Yon> it is a serial modem
[01:13] <Knowerrors> Yon: edit /etc/ppp/options file
[01:14] <Knowerrors> and put a # in front of the auth line
[01:14] <friskolen> My doughter says that she doesnt like this Kubuntu... becauce her daddy cant give her flash. Is it difficult?
[01:15] <Yon> the one that just says auth
[01:15] <Yon> i make it #auth
[01:15] <Yon> ?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> friskolen: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:15] <Yon> and then i will be able to conect
[01:15] <Knowerrors> Yon: right
[01:15] <Yon> kk thx alot Man!!!!
[01:16] <Yon> B RVB
[01:16] <Yon> BRB
[01:16] <benl> hey hobbs, That did something but I get a new error now when I run make:  *** missing seperator. Stop.
[01:16] <benl> what dooes that mean?
[01:16] <crimsun> Hobbsee: please recommend flashplugin-nonfree
[01:16] <jahshua> can anyone help?
[01:17] <crimsun> (instead of flashplayer-mozilla, as this package is illegal to distribute)
[01:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ah, i see
[01:17] <jahshua> hello, i have just put in a LiteOn cd burner which uses usb but its not coming up on my desktop .. i want to use it to burn images.. can anyone tell me what i need to do ?
[01:17] <Knowerrors> crimsun: is there a difference in function?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: why is it in the repositories at all then?  or is it in universe?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> *multiverse?
It says that it cant fint the packege
[01:17] <crimsun> Knowerrors: no, but we'll be removing flashplayer-mozilla because it violates Macromedia's EULA
[01:18] <crimsun> Hobbsee: it was mistakenly imported along with the rest of debian-marillat
[01:18] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:18] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[01:18] <kkathman> crimsun: now that mozilla has gone OSS why would it be illegal?
[01:19] <crimsun> kkathman: the plugin, not Mozilla.
[01:19] <kkathman> and all flashplayers, even from Macromedia are public domain
[01:19] <crimsun> no, that's absolutely untrue.
[01:19] <kkathman> all Macromedia Flash players are public domain now
[01:19] <kkathman> no that IS true I just read it in an email from Macromedia the other day
[01:19] <crimsun> Macromedia's license explicitly forbids anyone from distributing binary versions of Flash.
[01:19] <kkathman> Im on their list
[01:20] <kkathman> yes flash, but NOT the player
[01:20] <kkathman> you can download it free from Macromedia itself...or from Downloads.com
[01:20] <crimsun> the player is under the same license.
[01:20] <kkathman> no it isnt
[01:20] <friskolen> Do we have to install mozilla first?
[01:20] <kkathman> please double check your sources
[01:20] <crimsun> kkathman: I beg to differ, read the license in the flash plugin.
[01:20] <jahshua> i want to burn an image onto cd with my cd burner, can anyone help me out? the burner is plugged into my usb port but its not showing up on the desktop :(
[01:20] <kkathman> this is from Macromedia themselves
[01:21] <kkathman> new policy I think of recent times
[01:21] <crimsun> kkathman: it doesn't matter what they say if they don't alter the license.
[01:21] <Knowerrors> crimsun: why does flashplugin-nonfree want a bunch of ruby packs installed?
[01:21] <crimsun> Knowerrors: that's what it uses to download it, because it's currently the only legal way that we can get the plugin.
[01:21] <jahshua> :(
[01:22] <crimsun> kkathman: until they commit the license change to the actual redistributable package itself, we can do nothing more.
[01:22] <kkathman> its a little like saying that linux is against the law too lol
[01:22] <tadpole> OMFG!!!!! THANK U!!!!
[01:22] <friskolen> Do you say that I cant get flash for kubuntu?
[01:22] <benl> hobbs can ya tell me why it would say *** missing seperator. when I try to run a makefile?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> friskolen: i think you can - sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:23] <kkathman> crimsun: think about it... if the mozilla-flash is illegal, certainly ANY player will be, because you have to have the engine to play the flash...so like it or not, its touchy ground :)
[01:24] <kkathman> since Macromedia owns the flash technology, any solution would be illegal and/or a violation of copyright/patent
[01:24] <kkathman> so your 'freeplayer" is just as illegal
[01:24] <jahshua> please anyone ?
[01:24] <benl> Hobbsee: Sorry, *** missing seperator.  Ring a bell?
[01:24] <Knowerrors> Yon: youre welcome :)
[01:24] <crimsun> kkathman: err, it's not illegal
[01:25] <kkathman> benl:  you might want to use Hobbsee as a full name, not just "hobs" because you have to have the full name to have it highlighted on her screen
[01:25] <kkathman> crimsun: I would be very careful
[01:25] <benl> ya, i just figured that out when he said so :)
[01:25] <kkathman> you arent legal counsel
[01:25] <crimsun> kkathman: redistribution of the binary plugin on archive.ubuntu.com is very illegal
[01:25] <jahshua> Hobbsee: can you help me with cd burning :p
[01:25] <benl> -_-
[01:25] <friskolen> cant fint this nonfree...
[01:25] <Hobbsee> jahshua: had to scroll up and find the question :) - i'd say that you'd be using k3b
[01:25] <jahshua> k
[01:25] <Hobbsee> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:25] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[01:25] <kkathman> crimsun: then you should have it removed from the repos
[01:26] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: that thing about kppp should be a somewhere on the homepage, its very frustrating to find the needed help for dialup users
[01:26] <Hobbsee> friskolen: make sure you have multiverse
[01:26] <nasas> i just did dist-upgrade and accepted everything... im fine right? lolol
[01:26] <kkathman> why hasnt it been if this is a major issue?
[01:26] <crimsun> kkathman: we've already asked for it to be removed.
[01:26] <kkathman> and it hasnt?
[01:26] <Yon> knowerrors, u know its taken me like 7 hours, 4 ppl, and IT WAS SO SIMPLE!!!
[01:26] <crimsun> of course not, we don't touch a frozen distro.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> benl: sorry, i'ts not ringing a bell
[01:26] <Hobbsee> crimsun: then it's in dapper why?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:26] <crimsun> because our ftp admin is on holiday?
[01:26] <kkathman> ROFL even if it is blatently "illegal" ???
[01:26] <jahshua> Hobbsee: thanks a million!
[01:26] <fridge> can anyone tell me what package gtk-config is in?
[01:26] <kkathman> hehe
[01:27] <crimsun> james has his schedule, and we do well not to aggravate him.
[01:27] <friskolen> Hobbsee: What is multiverse?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> hehehe - surely someone else has the password for it?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> !tell friskolen about multiverse
[01:27] <Knowerrors> Yon: yeah, sucks to be a dialup user in Linux, few people know or care about getting internet working that way, most people are on broadband
[01:27] <crimsun> Hobbsee: no, it's the way our infrastructure is set up. Only the ftp admin has complete control over the archive.
[01:27] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:28] <Knowerrors> Yon: I just left my computer on for 10+ hours downloading updates, and still have about 3 hours to go
[01:28] <benl> Hobbsee: When I try to run the "make" command after running what you told me, I get makefile:9: *** missing seperator.
[01:28] <Yon> knowerrors ye i know wat u mean! now i need to get nvidia drivers working, is it as simple
[01:28] <Yon> Knowerrors: wat the hell r u trying to do!!!
[01:28] <benl> Hobbsee: Its doing it for every make file i try
[01:28] <Hobbsee> crimsun: want to help with the make error?  you're far better at this than i am...
[01:28] <crimsun> Hobbsee: I lack context
[01:29] <Knowerrors> Yon: no cusswords in the chat!
[01:29] <Knowerrors> !nvidia
[01:29] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:29] <Hobbsee> crimsun: just installed build-essentials, got rid of those errors - not sure what he's compiling
[01:29] <nalioth> benl: sounds like dodgy code to me
[01:29] <nasas> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:29] <fridge> Is there a predominant kde based newsreader?
[01:30] <Knowerrors> crimsun: do you do anything related to the kubuntu website, or know who does?
[01:30] <kkathman> fridge: knode, but I'd use pan if I were you
[01:30] <fridge> ok
[01:30] <crimsun> Knowerrors: the Web site? no. jon riddell does, though.
[01:30] <crimsun> benl: context?
[01:30] <benl> nalioth: every program I try does it..  Its wierd, At first I couldn't get kubundu to recognize make or make install, but Hobbsee told me to runsudo apt-get install build-essential and thats what happens now
[01:31] <Yon> Knowerrors: my friend is trying to get linux to work, he cant get his boot to work, he installs linux then he gets Error with the grub, do u have any idea
[01:31] <Yon> ?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> Yon: which grub error?  there are many of them
[01:31] <benl> crimsun: I'm trying to compile any program, but I cannot get make or make install to run at all, in the root or shell consoles..
[01:31] <crimsun> benl: pastebin the entire thing, i.e., the command you used to get what error.
[01:31] <benl> crimsun: Only command im using is make
[01:31] <crimsun> benl: pastebin the entire thing.
[01:31] <Knowerrors> Yon: which linux, ubuntu?
[01:32] <crimsun> I need to see all of stdout and stderr
[01:32] <friskolen> What is multiverse?
[01:32] <Yon> Knowerrors: 17 and 21 r the more common
[01:32] <Yon> Knowerrors:  its kutuntu
[01:32] <benl> crimsun: Makefile:9: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[01:33] <benl> crimsun: I used to get bash: asdf: command not found
[01:33] <crimsun> benl: not here, on pastebin.
[01:33] <crimsun> benl: and pastebin the Makefile(s), too.
[01:33] <Knowerrors> Yon: so he gets the error after he ejects the install cd and reboots?
[01:34] <nekostar> happy new years guys! im gonna be in san fransiscoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:34] <benl> crimsun: Can ya tell me how to do that?
[01:34] <benl> crimsun: Just copy the text in the fileE?
[01:34] <Knowerrors> crimsun: is jon riddell ever on here, maybe as a different screen name?
[01:34] <Yon> Knowerrors: after it installs he unplugs the cd tom and it stops working
[01:34] <nalioth> benl: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential"
[01:34] <crimsun> benl: yep
[01:35] <crimsun> Knowerrors: Riddell
[01:35] <Knowerrors> Yon: did he try doing the install over again?
[01:35] <Yon> Knowerrors:  about 4 times
[01:35] <Knowerrors> Riddell: I have a suggestion for the website if youre listening
[01:36] <Knowerrors> Yon: does he have windows installed also?
[01:36] <Yon> he can get into linux 100%, but as he unplugs his cdrom, he gets grub error 17
[01:36] <Yon> yes he does have windows
[01:36] <Knowerrors> Yon: unplugs? you mean ejects the install cd? or is this an external cdrom drive?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: he'll read it, hours later when he awakes, if you have his name in front of whatever you're saying
[01:37] <Knowerrors> nice
[01:37] <benl> SRCS=vnode_if.h firmwareagent.c
[01:37] <benl> KMOD=firmwareagent
[01:37] <Knowerrors> Riddell: suggestion for the kubuntu website, put a notice up for dialup modem users that they need to edit their /etc/ppp/options file to comment out auth
[01:37] <benl> EXPORT_SYMS=YES
[01:38] <benl> afterinstall:
[01:38] <benl> 	install -o root -g wheel -m 444 firmware.h /usr/include/sys
[01:38] <benl> 	install -o root -g wheel -m 444 firmware.h /usr/src/sys/sys
[01:38] <benl> .include <bsd.kmod.mk>
[01:38] <benl> crimsun: thats the makefile
[01:38] <crimsun> argh, you were supposed to pastebin that.
[01:38] <benl> ben@ubuntu:~/Downloads/firmwareagent-0.2$ dir
[01:38] <benl> export_syms  firmwareagent.c  firmware.h  LICENSE  Makefile
[01:38] <benl> ben@ubuntu:~/Downloads/firmwareagent-0.2$ make
[01:38] <benl> Makefile:9: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[01:38] <benl> ben@ubuntu:~/Downloads/firmwareagent-0.2$
[01:38] <benl> crimsun: oh
[01:38] <benl> sorry
[01:38] <Knowerrors> Riddell: this is very hard to find help on for dialup internet users, and makes it impossible for them to get online with kubuntu
[01:38] <benl> i don't know how to do that ;p
[01:38] <Yon> Knowerrors: he unplugs the ide cable from the comp
[01:38] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:38] <benl> !pastebin
[01:38] <benl> ah
[01:38] <Yon> Knowerrors: he has too lil power cables
[01:38] <benl> damn
[01:39] <benl> I am such a nub, i can't figure this out :(
[01:39] <Knowerrors> Yon: why does he unplug it?  does it work if it stays pluggin in?
[01:40] <benl> sorry guys, maybe im not suited for linux :(
[01:41] <Yon> Knowerrors: yes it does work, but like i said he cant have it like that, he doesnt have enought power cables for all his stuff, so he has to unplug it so thathe can use all his other HDD's
[01:43] <crimsun> benl: just copy and paste it using the mouse onto the pastebin Web site
[01:43] <crimsun> benl: then tell me the url
[01:43] <benl> ohhhh pastebin is a web site
[01:44] <benl> kk
[01:44] <Hobbsee> benl: hehe - if it starts with http:// it usually is!
[01:45] <Knowerrors> Yon, thats beyond me... does he not need the cdrom drive now that kubuntu is installed?  if so maybe editing the fstab entry for the cdrom would help
[01:45] <Knowerrors> as in comment it out
[01:45] <benl> i didnt see the http:// ;p
[01:45] <Knowerrors> benl: click on this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:45] <Yon>  Knowerrors i dont think it has anything to do with linux its the whole boot record thing
[01:46] <Yon> wat do u type to get back into KDE from console
[01:46] <Yon> ?
[01:46] <Lacerta> yon: kdm
[01:47] <jahshua> Hobbsee: if my cd burner which is plugged into my usb port isnt showing up on my desktop, how do i safely remove it ?
[01:47] <benl> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6398
[01:47] <benl> thats the makefile im trying to run
[01:47] <Knowerrors> yon cntrl alt backspace is easiest way
[01:47] <Hobbsee> jahshua: is it mounted?  i would have thought you could just pull it out...
[01:47] <jahshua> well k3b found it yes
[01:47] <jahshua> but i thought i had to do something before i removed it
[01:48] <Lacerta> Yon: or [Alt]  + F7 is kdm is already running
[01:48] <Yon> console, as in like a dos type of thing....
[01:48] <Knowerrors> right
[01:49] <Knowerrors> cntrl+alt+bckspc will restart x and kde
[01:49] <Yon> ok thx
[01:49] <Knowerrors> use that if kde ever freezes
[01:49] <Knowerrors> also
[01:50] <jahshua> Hobbsee :)
[01:50] <Knowerrors> crimsun: does the "SWF (Macromedia Flash) player" package actually play shockwave on linux? If not, whats the point in having it, I assume you need some Wine component to make it work?
[01:51] <crimsun> Knowerrors: Flash != Shockwave
[01:51] <nalioth> shockwave is not available (yet) on linux
[01:54] <crimsun> benl: that Makefile is broken
[01:54] <Yon> do u think that if linux keeps freezing its coz there is no graphics drivers installed?
[01:55] <Knowerrors> nalioth: right, Ive heard that, so why are there shockwave packages for linux in the repos?
[01:55] <nalioth> Knowerrors: there are?
[01:55] <Knowerrors> nalioth: yup
[01:55] <Knowerrors> nalioth: I think Im right, you need parts of Wine for it to work
[01:55] <Knowerrors> some w98 file
[01:55] <benl> crimsun: really...   It is a package.. wierd... prism54 driver makefile
[01:56] <Knowerrors> Yon: when is it freezing?
[01:56] <crimsun> does the included prism54 driver not work?
[01:57] <Lacerta> how do i install .rpm files?
[01:58] <benl> No,
[01:58] <benl> I can't get it to work.. or maybe im doing something wrong
[01:58] <benl> Its a usb prism54
[01:58] <benl> i didn't know if that was something that was causing a problem
[01:58] <benl> wg111 netgear
[01:58] <Yon> Knowerrors: is a lil random. but its wen he is in the desktop
[01:59] <benl> what would be the commands too activate it?  Its not detecting by default for sure..
[01:59] <Knowerrors> Yon: is it a complete lock up, or just temporary?
[02:03] <Yon> Knowerrors:  the mouse can move but nothing else works, and it doesnt unfreez
[02:04] <chx> ever heard of a music format called 'ape'? found nothing in (m)ultiverse repos
[02:05] <Yon> i just dled x chat(a irc client) but now i have no idea how to install
[02:05] <sampan> yon, kubuntu has x-chat already installed
[02:05] <sampan> konversation (another irc client) too
[02:05] <Knowerrors> Yon: Konversation is best
[02:06] <Knowerrors> also comes with kubuntu
[02:06] <sampan> and, to boot, irssi (text-only irc client) is there as well
[02:06] <Yon> Knowerrors:  ok, kewl i will get use to this one, but if i dl a program how do i install it?
[02:06] <Knowerrors> Yon: what are the specs of his computer? cpu speed and memory?
[02:06] <sampan> yon, usually you should use adept or apt-get to install stuff
[02:06] <Knowerrors> Yon: to get most new programs, use adept
[02:07] <Yon> Knowerrors: its amd64, he got the install for the 64bit linux and got like 1gig ram
[02:07] <Knowerrors> I use synaptic, which is much nicer than adept, and just as easy
[02:07] <Knowerrors> Yon: thats plenty of juice to run kde... any specific programs hes using when it freezes?
[02:08] <crimsun> chx: install wine, then use it to install the Windows Monkeys Audio executable
[02:09] <Knowerrors> Yon: you have to install synaptic with adept, then use it to find any(most) software youd ever need, edit your repository list to open up the big selection
[02:10] <Yon> Knowerrors: no, just plain linux we think that its coz his graphics card isnt installed
[02:11] <Knowerrors> did you read the info about nvidia?
[02:12] <Yon> not reli
[02:14] <Hobbsee> sampan: kubuntu doesnt install xchat by default...
[02:14] <sampan> oh lol ... i guess mine was there from ubuntu then
[02:14] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah
[02:14] <Hobbsee> or xubuntu
[02:15] <Hobbsee> but kubuntu definetly doesnt have it
[02:15] <sampan> ahhh ... still, downloading and installing it from source/rpm/even .deb is more hassle than just using the repos
[02:15] <Yon> i cant find synaptics!! wtf?
[02:15] <sampan> yon, have you enabled the repositories?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> !info synaptics
[02:16] <Hobbsee> you were looking for synaptic?
[02:16] <Knowerrors> !synaptic
[02:16] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:16] <Knowerrors> Yon: go to Adept and enable all the repositories
[02:16] <Knowerrors> first
[02:16] <Knowerrors> then, update
[02:17] <Knowerrors> then you can start installing new things
[02:17] <kub-01[A] > is kdevelop a collection of development files to be used with an IDE, or is it an IDE itself?
[02:18] <Knowerrors> Yon: Synaptic doesn't come with Kubuntu by default, you have to get it through Adept, or sudo apt-get install synaptic at the command line
[02:18] <Hobbsee> with firefox 1.5 (i think this occured in 1.0.7 as well), how do you get it to open in full screen mode?  I'm running kde3.5
[02:19] <Knowerrors> F11?
[02:19] <Yon> kk im updateing now, thats right?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> open in full screen mode?
[02:20] <Knowerrors> Yon: yeah, as long as you enabled the repositories first
[02:20] <Hobbsee> actually, i mean maximised, sorry
[02:21] <chx>  Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[02:21] <chx> is there a way to fix this?
[02:21] <chx> seems like small difference.
[02:21] <Hobbsee> chx: is this for amsn?
[02:21] <Yon> yea yea i did
[02:22] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: oh, that Im not sure, mine doesn't have that problem, you should just maximize, close it, then when you relaunch its maximized
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: i wish - it always opens not-maximised again...
[02:23] <chx> Hobbsee: libmac2 , monkeys-audio
[02:23] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[02:24] <sampan> i have persistent 'bugs' with firefox too. if i tell it to open certain mime type files with external programs and hit the "always do this action", it saves the info, but next time i click on that file type, it doesn't do what i told it to do.  makes no sense.
[02:24] <chx> Hobbsee: is it a very bad idea to download the debs and change the dependency...?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> got no idea - but it could well kill off your system
[02:24] <chx> Hobbsee: these packages are not for Ubuntu and so I think they may have just written something there...
[02:25] <Hobbsee> changing the dependancy, or compiling it, sounds like a fairly good idea
[02:25] <Hobbsee> yeah, in debian/control
[02:25] <chx> yep that's what I thought
[02:26] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: did you check window specific settings to see if FF has some set?
[02:27] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: ah, that i did not - in about:config, or somewhere else?
[02:28] <Knowerrors> just right click on the window title bar, go to "configure window settings"
[02:28] <Knowerrors> then window specific settings
[02:29] <jose> Hola
[02:29] <jose> Soy Nuevo en esto
[02:29] <jose> alguien me puede ayudar
[02:30] <kub-01> de donde eres?
[02:30] <Knowerrors> jose: #ubuntu-es if you're not bilingual, will get more help there maybe
[02:32] <chx> Hobbsee: after I did ar x foo.deb , untarred control.tar.gz , retarred ... how do I continue to rebuild the .deb ?
[02:32] <nalioth> !es
[02:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:33] <Hobbsee> chx: you couldnt get the source?
[02:33] <chx> Hobbsee: I can but I do not have the whole C++ build environment installed (and do not really wish to get it)
[02:33] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[02:33] <chx> I just need to build a .deb from control.tar.gz data.tar.gz and debian-binary
[02:34] <jose> HOla
[02:34] <Hobbsee> i'd imagine you'd have to rebuilt the opposite way you took it all apart...but i've only tried with source before
[02:34] <jose> Soy nuevo en eso
[02:34] <Yon> lol im still dling!
[02:34] <jose> mano
[02:34] <Hobbsee> or using debuild...
[02:34] <jose> Alguien que quiera ayudarme
[02:34] <jose> que hable espaol
[02:34] <Knowerrors> jose #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es
[02:36] <Knowerrors> Es posible que hay mas genete hablas espanol en los dos irc's
[02:38] <jose> Hola
[02:38] <jose> como llamo las aplicaciones Instaladas
[02:39] <chx> Hobbsee: for the archives, the answer is dpkg -b
[02:40] <Hobbsee> ah ok, yep
[02:40] <Knowerrors> Jose: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[02:42] <jose> ok
[02:42] <jose> Gracias
[02:42] <Yon> ok now i have installed sysopsis, now how do i use it?
[02:42] <jose> Tengo Kubuntu 5.1
[02:42] <jose> lo he actualizado
[02:42] <jose> lo mas posible
[02:43] <jose> pero los paquetes des debian
[02:43] <jose> no aparecen
[02:43] <jose> facilmente
[02:43] <jose> por eso
[02:43] <jose> Estoy pensando instalar SUSE
[02:43] <jose> Pero debian me gusta mas
[02:44] <Knowerrors> Yon: you mean synaptic? ;)
[02:45] <Yon> yea u know wat i mean
[02:45] <Knowerrors> Close Adept, then launch synaptic under K>system menu
[02:47] <Knowerrors> Yon: then either browse through the categories, or search for what you want, its pretty easy... I recommend first thing going to settings>preferences>appearance and click show package properties in main window
[02:48] <Yon>  i cant find preferences
[02:48] <Yon> wat settings r u talking about the one next to the "start bar"?
[02:49] <chx> Hobbsee: working!
[02:49] <Hobbsee> chx: yay!
[02:49] <chx> Hobbsee: do you think it worths a post in ubuntuforums "how to install monkey audio w/o recompile"? it's quite a bit of hassle
[02:50] <Knowerrors> Yon: after youve launced Synaptic, go to settings
[02:50] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'd say so
[02:50] <Knowerrors> Yon: settings in synaptic menubar
[02:50] <chx> but it was well worth it
[02:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:51] <chx> next time, I'll be better in dpkg -b and then it'll be easier
[02:51] <chx> much, much easier
[02:51] <Yon> sorry, where do u launch sysnoptics?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> definetly - so you untarred, changed the control file, retarred, dpkg -b foo.deb?
[02:51] <Yon> i was able to launch kynoptics, i installed it after i install synopitcs
[02:52] <Knowerrors> Yon: K menu(bottom right hand corner) , then settings, then synaptic
[02:52] <Knowerrors> dont use kynaptic, it sucks worse than kpackage
[02:53] <Knowerrors> Yon: K menu(bottom right hand corner) , then system, then synaptic
[02:53] <Knowerrors> typo
[02:53] <Knowerrors> Yon: K menu(bottom left hand corner) , then settings, then synaptic
[02:54] <Knowerrors> dang Im low on blood sugar, need brain food, brb
[02:55] <Yon> do u mean its not there
[02:55] <Yon> let me cheak the installs
[02:56] <Yon> i found kynopics there were u told me to look
[02:56] <Yon> but synoptics isnt there
[02:56] <Yon> and its installed
[02:56] <chx> Hobbsee: not tar , ar
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Yon: alt+f2, kappfinder - run it, and it should find synaptic, and add it to your kmenu
[02:57] <Hobbsee> chx: ar?
[02:57] <Knowerrors> hmm, then just Kmenu>run>synaptic
[02:58] <chx> Hobbsee: mkdir tmpdir , ar x ../foo.deb , mkdir DEBIAN , cd DEBIAN, tar xzf ../control.tar.gz , change control, cd .. , tar xzf data.control.gz , rm *gz , dpkg -b . ../foo.deb
[02:58] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[02:58] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: is kappfinder installed in a fresh kubuntu?
[02:58] <chx> Hobbsee: mkdir tmpdir , cd tmpdir, ar x ../foo.deb , mkdir DEBIAN , cd DEBIAN, tar xzf ../control.tar.gz , change control, cd .. , tar xzf data.tar.gz , rm *gz , dpkg -b . ../foo.deb
[02:58] <chx> corrected
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: i think so
[02:58] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[02:58] <Knowerrors> I had to add it
[02:59] <Hobbsee> not sure then - but i thought it was installed by default
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !info kappfinder
[02:59] <ubotu> kappfinder: (non-KDE application finder for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 251 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[02:59] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[02:59] <Yon> its not finding it in kappfinder
[02:59] <Knowerrors> Yon: you can manually add synapic to the Kmenu by right clickin on the K and doin menu editor
[03:00] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:00] <Knowerrors> Yon:  Kmenu>run>synaptic , does that work?
[03:02] <Yon> bru i just realized i installed synopsis
[03:02] <Yon> omg
[03:02] <Yon> sorry
[03:02] <Yon> i cant find synaptic
[03:02] <Yon> ok im installing the properthing now
[03:02] <Yon> lol
[03:02] <Yon> that was stupid
[03:03] <batitombo> does ne1 knows if installing an linux-image can conflict with nvida video drivers
[03:08] <chx> Hobbsee: better way. dpkg-deb -x foo.deb tmpdir ; dpkg-deb --control foo.deb tmpdir/DEBIAN ; nano tmpdir/DEBIAN/control ; dpkg -b tmpdir hacked.deb
[03:08] <Hobbsee> yep, nice
[03:09] <chx> Hobbsee: now. this is good stuff. I want to share. ubuntuforum? wiki?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> howto on ubuntu forum, i'd say
[03:10] <chx> Hobbsee: howto? could you please elaborate?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> make a how to in the howto sections of ubuntuforums.org
[03:12] <chx> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100 Ah you mean here!
[03:13] <Hobbsee> yeah, that's it
[03:16] <cobolfingaz> what is the correct decoder to install to be able to play mp3s using amarok?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[03:17] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.11 paused
[03:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:17] <cobolfingaz> thanks
[03:22] <chx> Hobbsee: posted.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:24] <chx> Hobbsee: I included ample disclaimers , like 'Likely apt will awake Godzilla to eat you.' -- I know it's dangerous to meddle with control. But, then again, I am linuxing longer than Debian exists...
[03:24] <Hobbsee> hehe true
[03:25] <chx> this guy _really_ calls his blog "So sue me" ? Hilarious.
[03:28] <Chani> I have a friend that's using kubuntu, but doesn't have net access. I just brought her a hard drive full of anime, and she can't watch it- kaffeine plays the sound but no video. I assume I need some sort of codecs, but... how do I get the .deb's from my comp so that I can bring them to her? I have kubuntu installed here but don't use it much
[03:31] <jose> Hola
[03:31] <jose> alquien que me pueda ayudar
[03:32] <mfdutra> si
[03:32] <jose> mira men
[03:32] <jose> me puedes hechar una mano
[03:32] <jose> soy nuevo
[03:32] <jose> en esto
[03:32] <jose> y me esta comiendo
[03:32] <mfdutra> cual su problema?
[03:32] <jose> Mira tengo Kubuntu
[03:33] <jose> Y no puedo Instalar los Tar gz
[03:33] <chx> Chani: likely the deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:33] <chx> Chani: you will likely need win32codecs
[03:33] <jose> tienen que ser paquetes debian
[03:33] <mfdutra> hmm .tar.gz no es para instalar
[03:33] <chx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <Chani> chx: thanks, someone else just told me the same thing :)
[03:33] <mfdutra> son archivos compactados
[03:33] <mfdutra> como .zip
[03:33] <jose> Entonces como los instalos
[03:33] <jose> ok
[03:33] <jose> si
[03:33] <jose> yo los desempaqueto
[03:34] <jose> pero despues no me los reconoce
[03:34] <jose> Uso ALien
[03:34] <mfdutra> pueden ser un software como pueden tambien ser un paquete de fotos
[03:34] <jose> y no lo puede generar
[03:34] <jose> No son programas empaquetados
[03:34] <mfdutra> usted solo puede usar alien se su .tar.gz sea un paquete slackware
[03:34] <jose> Descargue el FlashPlayer
[03:34] <mfdutra> install-flash....tar.gz ?
[03:35] <jose> Ok
[03:35] <mfdutra> si?
[03:35] <jose> como es que se instala
[03:35] <jose> No se puede hablar en Privado
[03:35] <mfdutra> el archivo es instal-flash...gz ?
[03:35] <jose> Anja
[03:35] <jose> si
[03:35] <mfdutra> ok. haga esto:
[03:35] <mfdutra> tar xzvf install-flash..tar.gz
[03:36] <mfdutra> usted va a ver un directorio llamado install-flash...algo.asi
[03:36] <jose> como Root
[03:36] <jose> supongo todo eso
[03:36] <jose> verdad
[03:36] <mfdutra> si, mejor
[03:37] <jose> ok
[03:37] <jose> ya
[03:37] <jose> lo desempaqueto
[03:37] <jose> ahora
[03:38] <jose> que hago
[03:38] <mfdutra> vio el directorio?
[03:38] <jose> anja
[03:38] <jose> si
[03:38] <jose> Esta en Home
[03:38] <mfdutra> ok
[03:39] <mfdutra> ahora move el contenido de ese directorio para /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:39] <jose> Ok
[03:39] <mfdutra> no move el directorio, solamente los archivos
[03:39] <Yon> how do u share the internet from linux to linux
[03:39] <Yon> ??
[03:39] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[03:40] <mfdutra> de modo que se queden exactamente en el directorio plugins
[03:40] <mfdutra> Yon, apt-get install ipmasq
[03:41] <Yon> can i get it from synoptics?
[03:41] <mfdutra> I think so
[03:41] <mfdutra> do you already have a home network set up?
[03:41] <Yon> kk thx, is it hard to use it?
[03:41] <nalioth> !es
[03:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:41] <mfdutra> easy
[03:41] <Yon> well, it worked from win to linux
[03:41] <Yon> so we can ping eachother
[03:42] <mfdutra> and linux-linux? is it working?
[03:44] <Yon> i dont know
[03:44] <Yon> gonna try now
[03:44] <mfdutra> ping
[03:44] <Yon> he keeps crashing
[03:44] <mfdutra> what crashes?
[03:44] <geneo93> ubuntu has some network issues
[03:45] <Yon> his linux crashes he is having sum problems
[03:45] <mfdutra> when does it crash and why?
[03:45] <Yon> ye i can ping him
[03:45] <mfdutra> try to identify the problem
[03:45] <mfdutra> that's good
[03:45] <Yon> well we think its the graphic
[03:46] <mfdutra> hmm yes
[03:46] <Knowerrors> nalioth: why if my username is registered, does it not let me log back on if my internet connection is interupted?
[03:46] <Yon> the screen starts corupting then everything freezes
[03:46] <mfdutra> what kind of connection have you got?
[03:46] <mfdutra> it must be vga config
[03:46] <Yon> 56k
[03:46] <mfdutra> dial?
[03:46] <Yon> yip
[03:46] <chx> night all
[03:46] <mfdutra> ok. I suppose you're connected through it, aren't you?
[03:46] <Yon> but we also having lots of trupuble installing the drivers
[03:47] <nalioth> Knowerrors: your 'ghost' still rules the roost /msg nickserv help ghost
[03:47] <Yon> we r conected thru a hub, i have the net and i wasnt to share it to him
[03:47] <mfdutra> how are you connected to the internet right now?
[03:47] <Yon> i have a 56k line to my pc
[03:48] <mfdutra> ok
[03:48] <Yon> then im conected to the hub and so is he
[03:48] <mfdutra> logged as root, type "route -n"
[03:48] <Yon> where? in run?
[03:48] <mfdutra> shell
[03:48] <Yon> or console?
[03:48] <mfdutra> console
[03:48] <Yon> kk
[03:48] <Yon> me or him?
[03:48] <mfdutra> look at the last line
[03:48] <mfdutra> you
[03:48] <mfdutra> ping the gateway
[03:49] <mfdutra> the second column of the last line
[03:49] <Yon> ok, i get a reply
[03:49] <mfdutra> ok
[03:49] <mfdutra> do it on the other machine
[03:50] <mfdutra> if you get a reply, it's fone
[03:50] <mfdutra> s/fone/done/
[03:50] <Yon> sorry, i lost u there
[03:50] <Yon> wat do u mean by fone?
[03:50] <mfdutra> no no no
[03:50] <mfdutra> fone -> done
[03:50] <mfdutra> mistyped
[03:51] <mfdutra> if you get a reply, it's Done
[03:52] <Yon> ok now the program i just got, the ipmasq i think there was a problem installing it
[03:53] <Yon> ok i dont know where to find it
[03:53] <mfdutra> just type ipmasq
[03:53] <mfdutra> there should be that command now
[03:53] <Yon> well i typed it in console and nothing happend
[03:53] <mfdutra> that's cool :)
[03:53] <mfdutra> ping again
[03:53] <mfdutra> it should work
[03:54] <mfdutra> ping from the other machine
[03:54] <Yon> the other guy has me set as his gateway... is that right
[03:54] <mfdutra> yes it is
[03:54] <mfdutra> this is a must
[03:54] <Yon> should the internet on his pc work?
[03:54] <mfdutra> yes
[03:54] <Yon> its not working
[03:54] <mfdutra> hmm
[03:54] <Yon> he doesnt have internet
[03:55] <mfdutra> did you ping the gateway?
[03:55] <mfdutra> the same IP you got a reply?
[03:55] <Yon> ok wats wierd is my gateway is 196.36.72.130
[03:56] <Yon> sorry
[03:56] <Yon> nvm
[03:56] <mfdutra> it's ok for me
[03:56] <Yon> thats the net ip right
[03:56] <Yon> ?
[03:56] <mfdutra> that's a good IP of the internet
[03:56] <mfdutra> nothing wrong
[03:56] <mfdutra> type: iptables -t nat -nL
[03:56] <Yon> ok he can ping the internet
[03:57] <mfdutra> can he?
[03:57] <Yon> ye
[03:57] <Yon> but he cant surf
[03:57] <mfdutra> so ipmasq worked
[03:57] <mfdutra> calm :)
[03:57] <mfdutra> second step
[03:57] <mfdutra> let's do the dns stuff
[03:57] <mfdutra> check your /etc/resolv.conf
[03:58] <mfdutra> both resolv.conf must be similar
[03:58] <mfdutra> equals
[03:58] <Yon> ok i have a few names he has 1
[03:59] <Yon> servernames im talking about
[03:59] <mfdutra> let them equal
[03:59] <mfdutra> yes
[04:01] <Yon> #kppp temp entry <-- does he need to add that
[04:01] <Yon> ?
[04:01] <mfdutra> no
[04:01] <Yon> kk
[04:01] <mfdutra> this is a comment
[04:01] <Yon> ok, thought so
[04:01] <Yon> ok so is that it?
[04:02] <Yon> he can surf now
[04:02] <mfdutra> yes
[04:02] <Yon> thx alot man!!!
[04:02] <mfdutra> really?
[04:02] <mfdutra> you owe a beer
[04:02] <mfdutra> you owe me a beer
[04:02] <mfdutra> :)
[04:02] <Yon> :P
[04:03] <mfdutra> ;)
[04:03] <mfdutra> ipmasq is not in fact a program
[04:03] <Yon> wat is it?
[04:03] <mfdutra> it's just a script that sets some firewall rules to make things work
[04:03] <dark|blue> hmm, when trying to add a new splash screen, isnt it supposed to see the theme.rc file?
[04:04] <Yon> oh ok, thats kewl, i have a lots to learn
[04:04] <Yon> linux seems so hectic
[04:04] <Yon> kills windows
[04:04] <mfdutra> it's not actually necessary, but it helps a lot
[04:04] <mfdutra> yes, they're uncomparable :)
[04:04] <Draken> thanks mfdutra  :D
[04:05] <Yon> lol, and thats the guy we were connecting
[04:05] <Yon> :P
[04:05] <mfdutra> oh welcome
[04:05] <mfdutra> where are you guys from?
[04:05] <Draken> now i got to work out why my linux freezes at random and stuff ;/
[04:05] <Yon> south afrka
[04:05] <Draken> south africa
[04:05] <mfdutra> ohhh great!!
[04:05] <Yon> south *africa
[04:05] <mfdutra> I'm from Brazil
[04:06] <Yon> omg, thats hectic
[04:06] <mfdutra> .za is the Ubuntu land
[04:06] <Yon> !
[04:06] <ubotu> Yon: What?
[04:06] <Draken> ya we know mfdutra  :p
[04:08] <mfdutra> Draken, what hardware do you have?
[04:08] <mfdutra> cpu, memory and vga
[04:09] <Knowerrors> Draken: try updating all your kde base packages and see if that fixes the freezing
[04:12] <Knowerrors> Anybody here using Epson printer?  Im trying to get Epson Inkjet untilities to work
[04:12] <Draken> Knowerrors:
[04:13] <Draken> how i do that
[04:13] <arafat> Knowerrors: yep...only got it to work under mandrake 10.1 so far...:-)
[04:13] <jahshua--> hey can anyone help me out to find out how much RAM i have ?
[04:13] <jahshua--> i dont know the command
[04:14] <arafat> cat  /proc/meminfo
[04:14] <arafat> jahshua--: or just type top...you'll see your memory in the upper left
[04:15] <jahshua--> great
[04:15] <jahshua--> thanks
[04:15] <Yon> draken hyst crashed
[04:16] <Yon> *sigh*
[04:16] <jahshua--> so how much is MemTotal:       255484 kB  in mb
[04:16] <arafat> ca. 256 mb
[04:16] <jahshua--> great
[04:16] <jahshua--> thanks
[04:16] <arafat> np
[04:16] <Knowerrors> Draken: go to Adept, or Synaptic if you have it installed, and if youve already updated, search for kde, then mark the kde packages and apply
[04:16] <jose> Hey papa
[04:17] <Knowerrors> Yon, tell Draken what I said
[04:17] <Yon> he asked which update synoptics is in
[04:17] <Yon> cos he doesnt have alot of time before he crashes
[04:17] <jose> alguien habla espaol
[04:18] <nalioth> !es
[04:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:18] <Knowerrors> Yon: kdebase bin and data
[04:18] <Knowerrors> and also kubuntu desktop settings, updating those may help
[04:18] <Knowerrors> upgrading I mean
[04:19] <Yon> r they big?
[04:19] <Yon> lol, shame it just crashed again, he was in for like 2 mins
[04:19] <Knowerrors> 6 megs
[04:19] <Yon> can he do it in console, it doesnt crash in console
[04:20] <mfdutra> Yon, everything freezes or he just loses the graphic display?
[04:21] <Knowerrors> sure, sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin kdebase-data kubuntu-default-settings
[04:21] <Yon> the graphics start to corupt then he freezes but he can move the mouse, nothing else responds, wen he is in console it doesnt freez....i think
[04:21] <mfdutra> I'm quite sure it's not a kde issue
[04:21] <Knowerrors> Yon: hes using nvidia right?
[04:21] <mfdutra> what vga does he have?
[04:22] <Yon> Knowerrors: yip
[04:23] <mfdutra> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <Yon> its a gforce 6600 gt
[04:23] <mfdutra> wow
[04:23] <mfdutra> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for "Section Device"
[04:23] <Yon> ok he is in
[04:24] <mfdutra> Section "Device"
[04:24] <mfdutra> check the line Driver
[04:24] <mfdutra> tell me
[04:24] <Yon> it says nv
[04:24] <mfdutra> it's right
[04:24] <mfdutra> is the screen resolution good?
[04:24] <Knowerrors> arafat: I used epson inkjet utiltiy on ubuntu in the past, now when I launch it I get "The executable escputil cannot be found in your PATH environment variable. Make sure gimp-print is installed and that escputil is in your PATH." any ideas
[04:25] <arafat> mfdutra: why not replace nv by nvidia?
[04:25] <Yon> well, it doesnt go to as high resoloutions as it did in windows
[04:25] <mfdutra> it's nice, but he should have the driver compiled
[04:25] <mfdutra> is that vga card very new?
[04:25] <Yon> can he update kde in console
[04:25] <Knowerrors> yeah
[04:26] <Yon> yes pretty new
[04:26] <mfdutra> I mean the model, is it new?
[04:26] <mfdutra> maybe the Xorg driver for that vga card is not good yet
[04:26] <Knowerrors> Yon: updating kde probably won't help this problem, though he should update it soon anyway
[04:26] <mfdutra> that often happens with new cards
[04:26] <arafat> Knowerrors: i've never tried epson inkjet untility on kubuntu...mandrake set it up automatically...
[04:26] <Knowerrors> I think I didn't install it completely, trying again
[04:26] <Yon> ok so wat should he do
[04:27] <Yon> ?
[04:27] <Yon> he has the drivers but he can install them
[04:27] <mfdutra> use the nvidia official driver
[04:27] <Yon> gets errrorororrrsd
[04:27] <mfdutra> I don't know if there is a ubuntu package for that driver
[04:27] <mfdutra> lemme check it out
[04:28] <arafat> mfdutra: nvidia-glx ?
[04:28] <mfdutra> I've never used it, does it work fine?
[04:28] <arafat> yep, it works for me...
[04:28] <mfdutra> so that's the way
[04:29] <mfdutra> aptitude install nvidia-glx
[04:29] <arafat> apart from that, he should replace "nv" by "nvidia"
[04:29] <mfdutra> yes yes
[04:29] <Knowerrors> Yon: maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=gforce+6600+gt
[04:29] <arafat> in his xorg.conf
[04:29] <mfdutra> he has also to comment out some lines in xorg.conf
[04:29] <mfdutra> I'm not sure of which ones
[04:30] <arafat> well... i did not comment out any lines. it should work out of the box
[04:30] <mfdutra> oh good
[04:31] <mfdutra> I've always used the driver from nvidia's website
[04:31] <arafat> me too... till i realized that there is a ubuntu package:-)
[04:31] <mfdutra> hehe
[04:32] <Finalhazard> Hello in here.
[04:34] <Yon> he cant load the desktop wen he canges it from nv to nvidia
[04:34] <mfdutra> did he install the driver?
[04:35] <Yon> no
[04:35] <Yon> he cant install it
[04:35] <Yon> he keeps getting errors
[04:35] <fed> hi
[04:36] <Finalhazard> I have a question about installing Firefox on the latest distro of Kubuntu. Does one need to use the "sudo" command then the tar command to unzip it, or do they need to be under the "root" username?
[04:36] <fed> there is anyway to give a better look to grub ?
[04:36] <mfdutra> Yon, what errors?
[04:36] <Finalhazard> I'm new to Kubuntu, so it may sound noobish...
[04:36] <mfdutra> Finalhazard, sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox
[04:36] <Yon> sumthing about the kernal
[04:36] <nalioth> Finalhazard: there is no active root account
[04:36] <mfdutra> something what?
[04:37] <nalioth> !rootsudo
[04:37] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root
[04:37] <Finalhazard> Thank you, I'll try that.
[04:37] <nalioth> Finalhazard: enabling a root account will break functionality in kubuntu
[04:38] <Finalhazard> Ah. I see.
[04:38] <Finalhazard> So just use the "sudo" command, right?
[04:38] <arafat> nalioth: really?
[04:39] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me what is the equivalent of 'hardware manager' on kubuntu and how to get to it please ?
[04:39] <jahshua--> sorry 'device manager'
[04:39] <arafat> jahshua--: type lspci in console   :-)
[04:39] <jahshua--> k
[04:40] <nalioth> arafat: yes really, /msg ubotu root
[04:40] <jahshua--> im trying to find out the vertical and horizontal scan frequencies of my monitor.
[04:41] <Finalhazard> Alright, it's finished installing. But I noticed it was 1.0.7 of Firefox. Is there a similar way to upgrade it to 1.5?
[04:41] <nalioth> Finalhazard: there is not.
[04:41] <arafat> nalioth: hmm.. i always enable root accout... haven't experienced any problems yet
[04:42] <Finalhazard> Crud.
[04:42] <Finalhazard> Let me guess, I have to download the tarball of 1.5, don't I?
[04:42] <nalioth> arafat: there are lots of things i do that will break functionality.  however i realize what will break and so don't advise anyone else to follow my bad habits
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Finalhazard about firefox15
[04:43] <arafat> nalioth: true...
[04:43] <Finalhazard> Ah, thank you.
[04:43] <jahshua--> does anyone know how i can find out the vertical and horizontal scan frequencies of my monitor ?
[04:43] <Finalhazard> Hadn't looked there.
[04:44] <arafat> jahshua--: how many inches does your monitor have?
[04:44] <jahshua--> about 20
[04:44] <jahshua--> by the looks of it
[04:44] <yon> well thanks alot guy
[04:44] <yon> u help me plenty!!!!
[04:44] <yon> nite nite
[04:45] <arafat> jahshua--: i can tell you my settings...mine is 19" settings worked both on a 19" and 20"
[04:46] <jahshua--> ok cool
[04:46] <jahshua--> please do
[04:46] <arafat> jahshua--: allright... i gonna smoke a cigaratte first... be back in 5 min.!
[04:46] <jahshua--> ok cool :)
[04:48] <visik7> hi
[04:49] <visik7> how can I set a system tray ?
[04:52] <Finalhazard> Oh ho ho, thank you a lot, nalioth.
[04:55] <visik7> I've a problem when I try to run gtk style and fonts
[04:56] <visik7> it doesn't open anything
[04:56] <arafat> jahshua--: HorizSync 31.110    VertRefresh 60-160
[04:57] <arafat> 31-110....
[04:59] <jahshua--> ok thank you
[05:03] <arafat> gn8 everyone!
[05:18] <visik7> kde rocks
[05:19] <visik7> the only thing is that I can't change the start page of konqueror
[05:19] <visik7> how can I do ?
[05:23] <sampan> visik7  in konq: settings --> configure konq --> behavior ...there's a spot to set the Home URL
[05:23] <visik7> yes
[05:23] <visik7> I've set it
[05:24] <visik7> but it still open the page where it describe konqueror
[05:25] <fridge> I'm trying to view DVB with Kaffiene, I've been able to scan in a heap of TV stations, but they're currently all greyed out
[05:27] <sampan> visik7  okay. in konq go to the page you want to set as your start page.  then go to settings --> save view profile 'kubuntu web' ... and make sure the box for "save URLs in profile" is checked
[05:27] <sampan> then hit 'save'
[05:28] <visik7> ok thank
[05:28] <visik7> ok thanks
[05:28] <sampan> np
[05:28] <visik7> onther issue
[05:29] <visik7> how can I integrate mplayer in konqueror ?
[05:29] <visik7> do I need to use kaffeine ?
[05:29] <visik7> I'm lookin' for a way to play wmv rm mov and other propretary codecs
[05:29] <nalioth> !w32codecs
[05:29] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:29] <visik7> w32codecs are installed
[05:30] <sampan> not sure -- iirc if you have installed the firefox-mplayer plugin you can tell konq to search for and use those same plugins.  but you can also set konq to open external applications (which is what i do)
[05:30] <nalioth> !libquicktime
[05:30] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nalioth
[05:30] <nalioth> !bad bot
[05:30] <ubotu> no, you're a bad person nalioth!
[05:30] <sampan> lol
[05:30] <nalioth> !info libquicktime1
[05:30] <sampan> fiesty bot
[05:30] <ubotu> libquicktime1: (A library for reading and writing Quicktime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 261 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:34] <thunderbolt> anyone have experience with scanner permissions?
[05:45] <Finalhazard> Hello again. I got Firefox working fine, didn't upgrade. But I now want to install a program like Limewire. Unfortunately, that requires installing an RPM, and I don't know how to do that. I tried installing alien to convert it to a deb file, but alien requires a few packages that require more packages...
[05:46] <Finalhazard> And that would mean downloading them all individually. Is there an easier way to do this?
[05:46] <fusion2ndpc> can some one help me out, just installed the amd64 version of kubuntu 5.10.  Once I "think" it loads up I get a gray screen and some blue garbled stuff towards the top of the screen
[05:46] <nalioth> Finalhazard: ask uncle google about frostwire
[05:46] <Finalhazard> Thanks. Sorry to ask such a stupid question.
[05:47] <nalioth> no questions are stupid (unless you don't ask them)
[05:47] <fusion2ndpc> xorg.conf looks fine by the way
[05:47] <Finalhazard> Well, is there an easier way to install RPMs?
[05:48] <Finalhazard> Because I'm getting very frustrated very easily. XP
[05:48] <nalioth> Finalhazard: you really shouldnt use rpms
[05:48] <nalioth> !alien
[05:48] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:48] <nalioth> Finalhazard: introducing foreign packages to ubuntu can cause problems when upgrading
[05:48] <Finalhazard> Ah.
[05:48] <fusion2ndpc> =\
[05:49] <nalioth> Finalhazard: i point you to frostwire, instead of limewire
[05:50] <Finalhazard> Wait, this is my problem. Installing alien requires so many libs that require more libs, and I just want to do one thing and install FrostWire. It didn't look like it had a deb file.
[05:50] <nalioth> Finalhazard: frostwire doesnt require alien, and it is also more open source
[05:51] <Finalhazard> All I'm seeing on the site is RPMs.
[05:51] <fusion2ndpc> can I wget the drivers from the nvidia website, and install them without a problem??
[05:51] <fusion2ndpc> without having to get any other packages?
[05:51] <Finalhazard> And to install RPMs requires them to be converted.
[05:51] <Finalhazard> Right?
[05:51] <nalioth> Finalhazard: there is a frostwire available that is platform independent
[05:52] <nasas> jesus christ, update distrub giving me huge errors
[05:52] <Finalhazard> You mean that ZIP version with the java install? HECK NO.
[05:52] <_dad> Hi - want to set a static ip for my nic, kubuntu 6.1 on gateway p-II amd athlonn
[05:52] <Finalhazard> Java infected my last PC with trojans. And I don't want the same to happen on Kubuntu.
[05:52] <nalioth> nasas: please respect us with your language choices
[05:52] <nalioth> Finalhazard: limewire and frostwire are JAVA p2p clients
[05:53] <nasas> what did i say?
[05:53] <Finalhazard> ...I must make myself look like an idiot now.
[05:53] <nasas> is jesus christ a curse?
[05:53] <Finalhazard> I didn't notice the fact it was Java.
[05:53] <nalioth> nasas: religion politics and violence have no place here
[05:54] <nasas> wtf?
[05:54] <_dad> is static ip set in an etc/eths sort of file? I don't have one now
[05:54] <nasas> o_O
[05:55] <_dad> anyone home?
[05:56] <kkathman> yep
[06:00] <kkathman> _dad its set through the networks file...if you are on kde, just go to systemsettings and choose networking
[06:00] <kkathman> network settings that is
[06:01] <_dad> ok I'll try tnx
[06:01] <kkathman> _dad let me know if that doesnt work..typically DHCP is much better tho
[06:03] <_dad> damn these guis have their uses!
[06:03] <kkathman> lol
[06:05] <fusion2ndpc> well no thx to you guys *j/k*  I got it working.  I had to change the nv to vesa in xorg.conf to see what I'm doing
[06:05] <fusion2ndpc> is there an easy way to install the real nvidia drivers now :(
[06:05] <Patry> hi all I just installed Kubuntu 5.10 and I need some help
[06:05] <kkathman> well I guess you dont need our help then
[06:06] <kkathman> Patry: whats up tonight?
[06:06] <Patry> I'm in the Network Settings and apparently I can't go to the Administrator Mode
[06:06] <Patry> I can't see the button at the bottom of the screen
[06:06] <kkathman> Patry: you need to do an update
[06:07] <kkathman> Patry: run your adept updater
[06:07] <kkathman> that will fix it
[06:07] <Patry> and if it might help you, I run KUser and it seems to load but then nothing, not even a window open
[06:07] <Patry> and how do I do that? :-)
[06:07] <kkathman> Patry: alt-f2 then type kdesu adept-updater
[06:08] <kkathman> then fetch the updates and install them
[06:08] <Patry> nothing happens
[06:09] <Patry> I can't seem to access Internet either when I type something in the Konqueror bar it always say something like: Host website_here unknown
[06:10] <sampan> fusion2ndpc  if you have the repositories enabled, there are nvidia drivers to install via adept/synaptic/apt-get ... they aren't the absolute latest ones, but they work well and haven't given me any trouble (and they're easy to install)
[06:10] <sampan> !nvidia
[06:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:13] <endo602> good evening
[06:13] <endo602> is there anyway to raid two ide hdds together?
[06:18] <unistd> hey, How I improve fonts in kubuntu?
[06:19] <unistd> it's very stranger
[06:21] <jose> Kubuntu.es
[06:22] <jose> cual es el server
[06:22] <nalioth> jose: marque /j #kubuntu-es
[06:22] <dad_> ok I'm back (crowd groans) - is it possible to mount a Windows XP share so that it appears in a directory under <wherever>?
[06:22] <sampan> !ntfs
[06:22] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[06:22] <sampan> dad_ yep -- see the link ubotu just posted
[06:23] <dad_> y'all are awesome - tnx
[06:27] <kkathman> dad_ Id use samba instead actually
[06:27] <kkathman> much easier to set up
[06:27] <kkathman> !samba
[06:27] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:27] <kkathman> sorry sampan :)
[06:30] <sampan> kkathman  ahhhh -- no need to apologize -- i've never used samba so i have no idea how that would be different -- i just mounted my old ntfs data drive in fstab
[06:31] <kkathman> sampan: for newbs I usually suggest samba, just cuz its almost always set up on install...they go to konqy and type smb colon backslash and there they are
[06:31] <sampan> is samba truly easier than making one directory and editing fstab?
[06:31] <sampan> ahhh guess so
[06:32] <kkathman> sampan: yeah theres virtually nothing to do
[06:33] <kkathman> especially if your home network has  more than one win box :)
[06:33] <kkathman> at least in my opinion
[06:33] <kkathman> plus with ntfs, when one machine has to reboot, all the others do too (unless thats changed recently)
[06:34] <sampan> i guess he's trying to do a networking thing then -- i thought it was just mounting a HD (or partition)
[06:34] <kkathman> with samba you can also set individualized icons based on single directories on other machines
[06:34] <kkathman> either way works tho
[06:40] <kkathman> sampan: either method requires alot more setup if you want to create specified logins
[06:41] <sampan> i'll take your word for it! ;)  single-user machine here
[06:44] <james> ???
[07:01] <N6REJ> whats the name of the editor for kde?
[07:01] <N6REJ> like gedit?
[07:01] <noirequus> N6REJ: kate
[07:01] <N6REJ> ty
[07:33] <Chameleon22> howdy all
[07:33] <Chameleon22> trying to build knowit and configure script returns: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. but i do have libqt-dev installed and all
[07:33] <Chameleon22> any ideas?
[07:50] <HeartBT> so a stupid question, I'm running Knome over ubuntu, should I be in kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:51] <HeartBT> just wondering.
[07:53] <Chameleon22> hrmm it is a stupid question
[07:53] <Chameleon22> be in both
[08:06] <kkathman> HeartBT: whatever you boot into, you actually have access to both sets of routines
[08:06] <kkathman> Chameleon22: dont be rude
[08:06] <HeartBT> heh, kewl.  that's kinda what I figured.  Now for a real question.  I heard of a script or applet that will allow for wireless roaming.  I have two networks that have WEP, several that are open.  Is there something that will take care of that?
[08:06] <Chameleon22> kkathman, you asked
[08:06] <Chameleon22> :p
[08:07] <HeartBT> kkathman, I've only got kwin, no kde besides that.
[08:08] <kkathman> asked what??
[08:08] <kkathman> HeartBT: not sure how you did that
[08:09] <kkathman> if you booted into gnome, you can run kde apps and vice versa
[08:09] <HeartBT> metacity is horrible.  I feel that it's a WM in the most basic sense.
[08:10] <HeartBT> gnome is a fairly nice interface, and is much less space, and resource intensive.
[08:12] <HeartBT> -nohup kwin --replace &&  when it's all over, reboot and save settings.  been running it for about 2 weeks, no problems.
[08:15] <HeartBT> anyway, any ideas about a script or applet?
[09:51] <ubuntu> i am using the live version of kubuntu but I have Ubuntu istalled on my pc but I'm digging this version
[09:52] <ubuntu> I heard I can convert my current ubuntu to kde without losing my settings and files how do I do that?
[09:53] <sampan> ubuntu  if you have the repositories enabled, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <sampan> that will download and install kde -- and leave your gnome intact -- in fact, that's what i (and many others) did
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: well, you can *add* KDE - you will have the choice of GNOME and KDE then
[09:54] <thoreauputic> yup
[09:54] <ubuntu> ok thanks I'll try that,
[09:54] <sampan> of course, dumb-butts like myself have gnome but never ever use it -- wasted drive space (good thing storage is so cheap)
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: when it completes, just log out of gnome and choose KDE as your session
[09:55] <ubuntu> so gnome will stay on my pc?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> sampan: heh I have xfce4 and fluxbox as well ( I use fluxbox quite a bit)
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: yes
[09:56] <ubuntu> ok thanks for all the info
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: so you can use either for any given login session
[09:56] <sampan> thoreauputic  yeah i do too actually ... i -would- use flux a lot (i like it -- esp. the stackable tabs) except i reboot only once every blue moon
[09:56] <nalioth_zZz> !xubuntu
[09:56] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[09:57] <thoreauputic> sampan: same here - but logging out and choosing KDE , gnome, etc is easy enough
[09:57] <sampan> ubuntu  when kde installs it will ask you if you want to use gdm or kdm ... you can do either, but if you think you'll use mainly gnome and only sometimes kde, you might want to stick with gdm -- and vice-versa.  afaik it really only affects the login screen
[09:57] <sampan> thoreauputic  yeah.  i mistyped: i guess i meant log out ... i have distributed computing stuff (F@H) that i hate interrupting
[09:58] <thoreauputic> ah I see :)
[09:58] <ubuntu> ok thanks,
[09:59] <sampan> be warned, though, ubuntu, kde can be habit-forming ;)
[09:59] <thoreauputic> actually I've been turning the machine off lately at night - my record uptime was about 90 days with hoary until there was a powewr failure ;)
[09:59] <ubuntu> I can see how that is
[09:59] <thoreauputic> s/powewr/power  ;-)
[10:00] <sampan> nice thoreauputic :)
[10:00] <thoreauputic> sampan: I was annoyed - i was shooting for 100 days ;-P
[10:00] <thoreauputic> heheh
[10:01] <sampan> lol
[10:02] <sampan> i think my winxp made 120 days a couple of times over the past 3 years actually
[10:03] <thoreauputic> I haven't booted windows for months
[10:03] <ubuntu> I just looked at the info on Xubuntu what's that is it kde or gnome
[10:03] <thoreauputic> not sure why I still have it at all
[10:03] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: neither
[10:03] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: it's another desktop
[10:03] <sampan> i don't even have windows anymore -- the HD it was on isn't even in the pc anymore -- gonna turn it into a usb-connected external drive :D
[10:04] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: have a look at http://xwinman.org
[10:04] <sampan> ubuntu  Xubuntu uses xfce4
[10:04] <ubuntu> thanks, I'll take a look
[10:04] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: linux lets you use lots of different window managers and desktops
[10:06] <ubuntu> It looks like win.xp
[10:06] <thoreauputic> aargh - what does?
[10:06] <sampan> "it" = ?
[10:06] <ubuntu> Xubuntu
[10:06] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:06] <thoreauputic> not at all
[10:07] <thoreauputic> more like mac Os-X if anything I think
[10:07] <ubuntu> what do most of you use
[10:07] <sampan> ubuntu got a screen shot that you're looking at?
[10:07] <sampan> i use kde -- but i've tried xfce and fluxbox and liked them both a lot.  very minimalistic, which i like
[10:07] <ubuntu> http://xwinman.org/screenshots/xfce-horen.jpg
[10:08] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: I use whatever I feel like - mostly fluxbox, sometimes gnome, sometimes kde
[10:08] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntu: i use terminals mostly
[10:09] <sampan> ubuntu  that desktop in that screenshot definitely has a XP-theme going on -- highly customized and NOT what most xfce desktops (that i've seen) look like at all
[10:09] <ubuntu> I'm new to using Linux which is why I'm on gnome because I hear it's the easiest
[10:10] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: KDE isn't hard - just has more customisable possibilities
[10:10] <ubuntu> I like the look of KDE gnome is very boring looking
[10:10] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: but both are good in different ways
[10:10] <sampan> why anyone would want to make their desktop look like the default XP one, i have no idea -- first thing i did even in win was to axe that blue crap
[10:10] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntu: take your time, there are possibilities you haven't even seen yet
[10:12] <ubuntu> well so far, I like the browser on KDE
[10:13] <sampan> ubuntu, both kde and gnome have their strong points.  nalioth_zzz is right: take your time, try them out, tinker with them.  kde has an awful lot of options you can configure, so just exploring can take awhile (and be enjoyable too)
[10:13] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: konqueror is also the file manager and integrates with all sorts of stuff ( like k3b for CD burning etc)
[10:13] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntu: and you never know, you might find a Desktop Environment we've never heard of, and like it
[10:13] <sampan> you can even rip your music in konq -- that thing does just about everything
[10:14] <ubuntu> Well I spent the last week installing plug-ins and everything else to get everything the way I wanted so I'm not ready to switch yet
[10:15] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: you don't need to switch - but have a play around and see what you like
[10:16] <thoreauputic> so much choice - it's a bit overwhelming at times :)
[10:17] <ubuntu> It is very overwhelming I wish I discovered the world of linux a long time ago
[10:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:18] <penguinzdr> wow only 45 minutes to new year
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Unix is hard to learn. The process of learning it is one of multiple small
[10:18] <thoreauputic> epiphanies. -- Neal Stephenson
[10:18] <thoreauputic> my current .sig ?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> oops
[10:18] <Chousuke> very true.
[10:19] <Chousuke> penguinzdr: You live in the future!
[10:19] <Chousuke> 11:19 here.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Sat Dec 31 20:20:03 EST 2005
[10:20] <thoreauputic> stilla while to go here :)
[10:20] <Chousuke> The measurement of time is relative, but time is the same for everyone else.
[10:20] <penguinzdr> Chousuke: wow you are in my timezone
[10:20] <Chousuke> I wonder when the new year really is.
[10:20] <penguinzdr> in kirimati
[10:21] <thoreauputic> arbitrary isn't it ?
[10:21] <sampan> this year gets an extra second to it
[10:21] <penguinzdr> yes
[10:21] <sampan> gonna throw off my kitchen clock
[10:21] <penguinzdr> Chousuke: where are you livin'?
[10:21] <sampan> ;)
[10:22] <Chousuke> penguinzdr: Finland.
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Today is Setting Orange, the 73rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3171
[10:22] <penguinzdr> GMT +2 rulz!
[10:22] <thoreauputic> :D
[10:22] <penguinzdr> thoreauputic: ddate?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> yes :)
[10:23] <Chousuke> We could all use different calendars and have new years every day!
[10:23] <Chousuke> Which year of Ubuntu is it now, btw?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> well warty was October 2004 so ...
[10:24] <penguinzdr> 2 years and 2 months
[10:24] <penguinzdr> but kubuntu is younger
[10:25] <Chousuke> :)
[10:25] <thoreauputic> erm I year and 2 months from official first release ?
[10:25] <penguinzdr> ah one year, yes
[10:27] <Chousuke> It'll be interesting to see where Ubuntu will be 5 years from now.
[10:27] <penguinzdr> wow ubuntu... 10.10
[10:28] <penguinzdr> with KDE 6 :)
[10:28] <Chousuke> heh.
[10:28] <penguinzdr> and gnome 4
[10:28] <Chousuke> and Linux 2.6.329
[10:28] <penguinzdr> no, linux 3.2 :)
[10:28] <Chousuke> with a microkernel! :|
[10:29] <Chousuke> (nah)
[10:29] <Chousuke> I wonder if there'll be KDE 6.6.6
[10:29] <penguinzdr> surely
[10:30] <Chousuke> Everyone will call it so good it's almost evil.
[10:30] <penguinzdr> will Konqueror will be the default browser and file manager in KDE 6.6.6?
[10:35] <_paul> hey guys, im getting a weird graphics problem on my kde desktop at random times, i've only been using kde for a short time and wondered if any of you guys knew waht i was on about
[10:37] <_paul> at random times when i'm using the system, i'll refresh a page or scroll down - the graphics suddenly corrupt! the only way ive found that fixes it is a simple logout of session
[10:37] <_paul> do yuo think it may be sorted out if i update to kde 3.5?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> sounds more like a problem with X than KDE
[10:40] <penguinzdr> why my microphone doesn't work?
[10:41] <penguinzdr> i enabled it on KMix
[10:53] <RichardC> kubuntu is finally updated
[10:53] <RichardC> now to tweak
[11:11] <linux_galore> just decided to try the kubuntu live CD
[11:11] <linux_galore> 6.04
[11:12] <linux_galore> only two minor bugs, 1 it ddidnt see my gateway 2. sound works but not with amarok
[11:12] <penguinzdr> :(
[11:12] <penguinzdr> why i'm banned from #freenode-newyears?
[11:14] <linux_galore> knoppix got it all right so did the Gentoo RR4 Live DVD, but Kubuntu got the resolution right and the fonts look nice
[11:15] <linux_galore> I'll give the Kubuntu 6.04 live CD 6 out of 10
[11:15] <Anth0ny_> Why is it that top often uses 99,99% of my CPU?
[11:15] <Anth0ny_> http://sofievej.anthony-net.dk/~anthony/top-cpu.png
[11:15] <Anth0ny_> My system is doing nothing, but top says 48,7% idle
[11:33] <berkes> odd. I try to install mysql-client + mysql-server on a vanilla breezy kubuntu, but it fails to load the database server
[11:33] <berkes> somthing with not bein able to assign a tcp/ip port
[11:34] <berkes> any hints? Should i restart some deamon or service to re-set the tcp/ip settings?
[11:36] <RichardC> is firefox 1.5 not in the breezy repos yet?
[11:36] <berkes> RichardC: nope.
[11:36] <berkes> but it is in klik!
[11:37] <RichardC> is it in breezy-backports?
[11:37] <RichardC> !klik
[11:37] <ubotu> well, klik is at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[11:38] <berkes> klik.atekon.com if i am correct.
[11:39] <berkes> RichardC: I have found, personally, that FF is rather slopppy when it comes to Linux releases.
[11:39] <RichardC> so it seems
[11:39] <berkes> the last two mayor releases broke completely
[11:40] <berkes> their private "update system" and  homebrewn usermanagement completely breaks the linux standards.
[11:40] <penguinzdr> does klik brokes /etc/fstab?
[11:40] <berkes> penguinzdr: not that I know.
[11:41] <berkes> one thing about that klik, is that its quite safe to test out stuff on.
[11:41] <hunika> hello everybody
[11:41] <hunika> help to me
[11:41] <Chousuke> heh
[11:42] <hunika> i need a conveting tool for kubuntu
[11:42] <hunika> conveting media file types
[11:42] <Chousuke> I read klik's "can you imagine" list.
[11:42] <hunika> so audio to mp3
[11:42] <Chousuke> It's OS X ;P
[11:42] <hunika> wma to mp3
[11:42] <hunika> like itunes
[11:42] <hunika> and video file formats too
[11:42] <hunika> idea?
[11:42] <hunika> tip?
[11:43] <RichardC> btw
[11:43] <RichardC> should i tell synaptic to prefer package versions from breezy-backports?
[11:44] <hunika> kkathman-zzzz: are you there?
[11:45] <berkes> Chousuke: no, its not. the big missing thing in osx is the fact klik does not add anything into your systems file-system
[11:45] <hunika> Riddell: are you there?
[11:45] <berkes> Chousuke: in other words, klik is perfectly able to run on a liveCD, for example. or some Harddisk less installation
[11:46] <hunika> berkes: can you help me please
[11:46] <berkes> bu, anyone else with problems on istalling Mysql server?
[11:46] <berkes> hunika: msg me.
[11:47] <hunika> berkes: I need a professional audio creation tool. So I can make music with it, or if I have a song I can give to it some effects
[11:47] <hunika> berkes: do you know something? Or anyway you understand?
[11:49] <berkes> hunika: a few. there is lmms, audacity, mixxx and a lot more.
[11:50] <hunika> berkes: but with wich I can disort my voice? So add some style to my voice? :))
[11:50] <berkes> hunika: have a look at dyne.bolic that is a distro specialised in multimedia creation. They have lots of nice applications listed.
[11:50] <berkes> hunika: that would be audacity
[11:50] <hunika> berkes: Are you hungarian because your name is quite hungarian
[11:50] <hunika> berkes: thanks
[11:51] <berkes> nu, Dutch. my name is Br Kessels.
[11:51] <hunika> berkes: Another tool I need, converting program wich converts from audio to mp3
[11:51] <berkes> lame. hunika
[11:51] <hunika> berkes: I am hungarian
[11:51] <hunika> berkes: thanks a lot
[11:51] <berkes> hunika: i am not saying your are lame though. Lame is a nice encoder
[11:52] <hunika> berkes: i hope that i can find these in the repositories
[11:52] <berkes> hunika: you will.
[11:52] <berkes> lmms not, though, its very nice, (a complete sound studio package) but rather new still
[11:53] <hunika> berkes: question
[11:53] <hunika> berkes: can i run mac os software on linux?
[11:53] <hunika> berkes: especially on ubuntu
[11:54] <berkes> hunika: no.
[11:54] <berkes> hunika: there are ways, but its hard
[11:54] <penguinzdr> brb
[11:54] <hunika> berkes: okay than I will not work with it. I thought that I could run because both are Unix based and maybe there is an emulator like wine
[11:55] <hunika> berkes: anyway i am new at linux that is why i am asking irreal questions :))
[11:55] <Chousuke> hunika: on PPC Linux you can run OS X itself in an emulator.
[11:56] <Chousuke> But that's pretty much all you can do to run OS X software on Linux
[11:56] <berkes> hunika: here is what i suggest: get going on linux. Learn where to find what. Learn how linux does stuff.
[11:57] <berkes> then, onc eyou feel confortable in linux, start looking at advanced stuff like emulators and ports.
[11:57] <berkes> or compiling your own macos software on linux. Stuff like that is quite complex if you ar enew.
[11:58] <Chousuke> if you have the source, chances are it's some well know OSS project with a native linux port.
[11:59] <berkes> indeed.
[11:59] <berkes> I was just referring to common known "rather advanced things to do".
[12:00] <berkes> hunika: Chousuke: its all about "grokking the underlying concepts" that just takes some time. Stuff like apt repositories. etc.
[12:01] <Chousuke> I think I have that already :)
[12:04] <hunika> berkes: I berkes: I was having my lunch sorry
[12:04] <hunika> berkes: but I am back
[12:05] <hunika> berkes: I have installed lmms but I can not see in the K menu
[12:07] <hunika> berkes: lmms is connected to the old xmms?
[12:08] <RichardC> what is a good p2p app?
[12:08] <RichardC> i've been using shareaza (gnutella 2 & edonkey) in windows
[12:16] <hash> hello. I've disabled the menu-bar in konqueror (file/edit/etc...), but now, I don't know how to enable it. Is someone could help me ? :)
[12:17] <manveru> ctrl+m :)
[12:18] <hash> manveru: great :) thanks
[12:18] <manveru> i've got another problem, i've got an external HDD and want to format it to FAT32... parted and qtparted both crash...
[12:19] <manveru> someone knows the command for fdisk or whatever i could use for partitioning?
[12:20] <manveru> oh, parted just came back to live... - nm :)
[12:25] <berkes> hunika: no
[12:25] <hunika> berkes: anyway
[12:25] <hunika> berkes: i have installed audacity
[12:25] <hunika> berkes: but i can add a song, a recorded thing
[12:25] <berkes> hunika: a sec. I am surprised, I thought  lmms was not yet in the repos
[12:26] <hunika> berkes: but i can not use the effects
[12:26] <hunika> berkes: why? because these are mp3?
[12:28] <hunika> berkes: so what is the problem with audacity?
[12:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:45] <ludo> i try to add a file on adept, but when i go to "manage repositorie" and i add the link i have an error. I think the URL isn't correct.
[12:46] <ludo> what kind of URL i can use please
[12:46] <ludo> sorry i an a noob
[12:46] <ludo> i try to add a game
[12:47] <ludo> http://priv.solsector.net/files.htm   this game, so i use the link of the file on adept, is it good ?
[12:50] <ludo> could you help me plz ?
[12:52] <hussam> ludo: that won't work. you can only add deb repositories
[12:56] <ludo> ok so how can i add this file ?
[12:56] <ludo> it's a .run file
[12:57] <hussam> ludo: where did you save the .run file?
[12:57] <ludo> on my desktop
[12:58] <hussam> the open konsole and type:  ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run
[12:59] <ludo> ok i try
[12:59] <ludo> i don't have the permission i try with sudo ?
[12:59] <hussam> no don't use sudo
[12:59] <ludo> ok
[01:00] <hussam> type: chmod +x ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run
[01:00] <ludo> i do it but there is nothing
[01:01] <hussam> ok now type: ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run
[01:01] <ludo> it's ok
[01:02] <ludo> i think
[01:02] <hussam> it worked?
[01:02] <ludo> it think it is the install
[01:02] <hussam> yes
[01:02] <ludo> yes uncompressed
[01:02] <ludo> super!  merci !!
[01:02] <hussam> this should install it on your computer
[01:03] <ludo> i ll try to understand the command "chmod ...etc" after a little game :)
[01:10] <Yon> hey does any1 know the server address for shadowfire?
[01:11] <Anth0ny_> can anyone of you remember how to add nvidia driver to Kubuntu with apt-get?
[01:12] <Tm_T> Anth0ny_: sure
[01:12] <Anth0ny_> apt-get install nv-driver or something like that?
[01:12] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:12] <Tm_T> look from there ;)
[01:13] <Anth0ny_> thanks
[01:13] <hunika> berkes: i am not registered user
[01:13] <hunika> berkes: how to register
[01:13] <hunika> ?
[01:13] <Tm_T> that's bit olidsh but should work
[01:14] <Tm_T> hunika: to freenode?
[01:14] <hunika> yes
[01:14] <Tm_T> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:14] <Tm_T> faq <3
[01:15] <hunika> berkes: I register myself than I write to you my problmes at privi
[01:15] <hunika> berkes: ok
[01:21] <Yon> can i listen to all the diffrent song formatt in kubuntu?
[01:24] <minidoux> Hi !
[01:26] <Eftarjin> hi
[01:29] <hunika> hey people
[01:29] <hunika> where can i download
[01:30] <hunika> kde styles / themes in debian format
[01:30] <hunika> or is it possible?
[01:33] <hunika> how can i install baghira theme in kubuntu
[01:33] <hunika> not that poor one which is in the repos
[01:34] <mebsd> what's the advantage of kubuntu if ubuntu can have kde
[01:36] <Yon> mebsd from wat i have been told the only diffrence is the looks
[02:06] <Phospheros> >sigh< This is a little frustrating. Just installed and have a driver problem already.  Found a driver for it, going to mess with x -configure and pray it figures out my graphics and display setup properly for dual monitors and dual GPU's.  I'm curious how this Adept system works?  I played with it to install GAIM and Xchat, but how do I change where it draws from? To add another despository?
[02:07] <berkes> Phospheros: why do you wnat that in the first place
[02:07] <Phospheros> It refers me to a sources file, but doesn't tell me where its at!
[02:08] <manveru> !sources
[02:08] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:08] <manveru> !repositories
[02:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:08] <Phospheros> I need it to stay current with the graphics drivers. I have a Unichrome S3G IGP, and its fubar with the default driver.  Running on my ATI PCI card now.
[02:09] <Phospheros> OpenChrome project has a respository and want to add theirs as well to pull from there.
[02:14] <thinkle> Hi all -- I'm just trying out amaroK on a regular old GNOME ubuntu desktop and it won't play any ogg files. Any ideas what I might be missing?
[02:17] <Phospheros> Thanks, now that I see it, its not such a big deal.    I like how the package manager works.
[02:17] <krille> some now what ET is ?
[02:18] <berkes> et? is that not to phone home? :)
[02:24] <marwan> Hello, i have problem with me dial up modem which is AC97 modem
[02:24] <marwan> any one can help with this?
[02:33] <thinkle> Okay -- fixed my amaroK problem -- installing kde-base did the job. Don't know why, though.
[02:43] <hunika> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[02:54] <Riddell> hunika: hmm?
[03:47] <slow-motion> bbl
[03:57] <ludo> i try to run a game, but i don't know how ? i write the name in the konsole but it don't find, someone could help me plz ?
[03:58] <hussam> ludo: is it that same game?
[03:58] <ludo> yes
[03:58] <hussam> ludo: where did you intall it?
[03:59] <ludo> in the manual, its just write run "privateer"
[03:59] <ludo> here /home/ludo/privgold
[04:00] <hussam> then look under /home/ludo/privgold
[04:00] <ludo> ok
[04:00] <hussam> search for a shell script or executable file called privateer inside /home/ludo/privgold
[04:02] <ludo> i find play_vs i try to lunch it but it don't work (with chmod +x too)
[04:03] <neoncode> are there any fixes for that bug with the fglrx driver, the one where if you chose the "big desktop" mode as a dual-screen mode and if things that are supposed to appear in the middle of the screen appear bettween the both of them and if use use maxamise it maximiases to both screens?
[04:06] <[mudi] > hi, i have kubuntu breezy with kde 3.5 and I tried to install the kde api docs from the package kdelibs4-doc. there is nothing in it. the same package for kde 3.4.3, however, is 29MB download and 250 MB installed. so where are the kde 3.5 api docs?
[04:08] <[mudi] > is there anybody awake in this channel?
[04:09] <Blissex> neoncode: thats not a bug, thats what big desktop means...
[04:13] <Finalhazard> Hi again...
[04:14] <Finalhazard> I got Firefox 1.5 installed and everything, but for some reason when I try to install libstdc++ for it to work, it says it can't find the files in the seveas repository...
[04:16] <Finalhazard> I'll show you an example of what it says:
[04:16] <Finalhazard> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/madwifi Pa                                 ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/seveas.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_breezy-seveas_madwifi_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:16] <Finalhazard> Could it have something to do with those spaces in it?
[04:17] <Finalhazard> If so I'll probably have to fix the sources.list file, right?
[04:17] <Blissex> Finalhazard: 'apt-get update' :-)
[04:18] <Finalhazard> I tried that. It gets the same error.
[04:18] <Finalhazard> Won' change the sources.list for anything.
[04:19] <kakei> who can pls tell me how to install baghira
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Here's what it says:
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-backport
[04:22] <Finalhazard> s/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-custom/b
[04:22] <Finalhazard> inary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/b
[04:22] <Finalhazard> inary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/madwifi/binary-
[04:22] <Finalhazard> i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:22] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-backport
[04:22] <Finalhazard> s/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[04:23] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-custom/s
[04:23] <Finalhazard> ource/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[04:23] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/s
[04:23] <Finalhazard> ource/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[04:23] <Finalhazard> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/madwifi/source/                                           Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[04:23] <Finalhazard> That's what it says when I try to use apt-get update. The rest install fine.
[04:23] <apokryphos> Finalhazard: do NOT paste in here, read the /topic
[04:23] <Finalhazard> Sorry. I hadn't read it, my bad.
[04:25] <Blissex> Finalhazard: looks like that server foes not have the stuff you think it has.
[04:25] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I turned on the Universal Sidepanel and hided it .. and now i cant find it again. how do i show it?
[04:25] <Finalhazard> But here's my question. Which server would work?
[04:26] <endo602> good morning
[04:26] <apokryphos> Finalhazard: all you have to put to get seveas' repo is, i.e.  deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas
[04:26] <endo602> I am having an issue with a kubuntu installation
[04:26] <endo602> i thought i installed it to a sata drive
[04:27] <Finalhazard> Ah.
[04:27] <Finalhazard> Thank you.
[04:27] <endo602> but when I chose to install master boot record loader
[04:27] <endo602> and the comp restarted I get nothing
[04:28] <endo602> will kubunutu install onto a sata drive if there are also ide drives attaached?
[04:28] <endo602> and will the boot loader install onto the right drive?  Is there anything I have to change in the bios to bring up the boot loader?
[04:33] <Blissex> endo602: GNU/Linux installs to just about any disc, does not require the disc to be the ''first''. The issue is more the bootloaded, and that depends on how your BIOS works and what's on the other discs.
[04:34] <endo602> the other discs are ntfs
[04:34] <endo602> and there is no OSs on them
[04:35] <endo602> ?
[04:36] <endo602> what would the issue with bootload be?
[04:37] <endo602> what shoul i change in the bios?
[04:39] <endo602> Blissex: ?
[04:40] <Blissex> endo602: well, the bootloader _must_ be on the MBR of the disc that the BIOS boots.
[04:40] <endo602> how do i do that
[04:40] <Blissex> endo602: then it can load a kernel and setup a root filesystem from anywhere else
[04:41] <endo602> aha
[04:41] <Blissex> endo602: it is not a big deal, you just need to know which disc the BIOS boots from, or tell the BIOS to boot from another disc.
[04:41] <endo602> you mean my bios boots from my hdd?
[04:42] <endo602> right now I have pulled out my other hdds
[04:42] <endo602> so only sata is there
[04:42] <visik7> hi
[04:42] <slow-motion> re
[04:42] <visik7> in gnome when I close my laptop it lock my screen in kde /var/log/acpi says :
[04:42] <visik7> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[04:42] <visik7> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[04:42] <visik7> what I've to change ?
[04:44] <endo602> Blissex:  any ideas on how I go about it?
[04:48] <endo602> Blissex:  how do i tell the bios how to do that?
[04:48] <endo602> in the boot order part of the bios?
[04:49] <Blissex> endo602: well, I have no idea which BIOS you have, but odds are in that part of the BIOS config.
[04:52] <root_____> hi, i have a prob. :D i like go to kde 3.5, now i have 4.3.4 - give it a install version from ubuntu with kde 3.5 ?
[04:52] <_jose> kakei
[04:53] <kakei> _jose,
[04:53] <endo602> got it
[04:53] <kakei> -?
[04:53] <endo602> yes
[04:53] <_jose> anja
[04:53] <endo602> i just pulled out my ides
[04:53] <endo602> for a momnt
[04:53] <endo602> now I gotta stick them back in
[04:54] <kakei> _jose, do u know how to install baghira?
[04:54] <Ksharop> kann hier jemand deutsch :/ ??
[04:54] <_jose> En espaol
[04:55] <apokryphos> !de
[04:55] <ubotu> I heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:55] <apokryphos> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:55] <Ksharop> thank's
[04:59] <Yon> hey guys
[05:00] <endo602> what is a swap areaD?
[05:00] <Yon> can any1 help me, i cant get into my email it gives me an error saying i need to get a personal security manager
[05:00] <Yon> wat do i need to get?
[05:09] <bam_> anyone know how I can get xine to run my dvd's as the default rather than kaffine?
[05:12] <visik7> in the conf of konqueror -> file associations
[05:12] <visik7> media-> dvd*
[05:13] <visik7> media-> dvdvideo
[05:19] <ninnghizidha> anyone managed to get shadows in Kubuntu with an Radeon-Card?
[05:20] <ninnghizidha> i hate ati for that crap drivers ...
[05:20] <ninnghizidha> ... how good are the "radeon"-drivers?
[05:23] <elijah> anyone know how to fix error: "no URI handler implemented for <URL>" in Kaffeine when trying to play media from internet sites
[05:23] <elijah> .mpg files to be exact
[05:27] <elijah> mmmm....not many helpers right now :'(
[05:28] <apokryphos> elijah: try install kaffeine-xine
[05:28] <apokryphos> not streaming media, is it?
[05:29] <elijah> actually its not playing anything....I've only tried .mpg tho
[05:29] <elijah> I tell a lie....it only wont stream
[05:30] <chriswoodall> hmm
[05:30] <apokryphos> don't know about streams, really, sorry
[05:30] <chriswoodall> did you install the mpg package
[05:30] <chriswoodall> (sry I dont know what it is called for kubuntu)
[05:31] <elijah> I've install everything that says anything about decoding mpeg or mpg
[05:32] <elijah> I started off more conservatively...but now I just install everything hoping that I'd find something that would work
[05:32] <elijah> and kaffeine-xine now included :(
[05:33] <chriswoodall> and mp3
[05:36] <elijah> not sure from net....everything from hdd seems to be ok
[05:36] <Determinist> dear god, kde just feels so wrong sometimes
[05:37] <elijah> vlc can play but without audio :\ but i'd rather use Kaffeine
[05:44] <chriswoodall> I don't know why but even though kde has more features I just feel more at home in gnome (I am not anti-kde, I actually like it) I dont know why
[05:45] <visik7> is not just a question of features
[05:47] <chriswoodall> I fell it is a personal thing. If you want to use gnome use gnome kde use kde xfce use xfce, flux box use flux box use what ever you want. Any way I can us emost kde apps in gnome
[05:47] <chriswoodall> though if you want to use windows you shouldnt use windows
[05:48] <visik7> for example in xchat if I want to send something that is stored on a windows machine I need to download it first from nautilus and then open from local, while konveration open it directly
[05:48] <visik7> there are many of this examples
[05:49] <visik7> moreover kde is external apps friendly
[05:49] <visik7> while gnome isn't for example an apps that doesn't support the vfs of gnome cannot open remote file and you need to download from nautilus, while kde download it for you
[05:49] <chriswoodall> true but its the feel for me I dont like the overly glossy feel of kde
[05:50] <chriswoodall> this is just gonna lead to flaming and a war shall we stop arguing now
[05:54] <zajacslv> helo
[05:54] <zajacslv> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ABCsRB89.html
[05:55] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[05:55] <spikeh> apokryphos: how would I change the administrator's theme to fix Synaptic's theme?
[05:56] <apokryphos> spikeh: do you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed?
[05:56] <m_tadeu> are the ubuntu atp repositories the same as kubuntu?
[05:56] <apokryphos> m_tadeu: yes
[05:56] <apokryphos> except the extra kde 3.5 repository, which is at kubuntu.org
[05:56] <spikeh> apokryphos: yes it's installed
[05:56] <m_tadeu> apokryphos: thanks
[05:57] <apokryphos> spikeh: then synaptic would use your kde theme (or at least try to, with that gtk2 engine)
[05:57] <apokryphos> one sec
[05:57] <spikeh> apokryphos: but strangely it's not; it was fine when I first installed kubuntu, but suddenly it changed
[05:58] <apokryphos> spikeh: alt+f2 -> kdesu systemsettings
[05:58] <apokryphos> then alter the theme from there
[05:59] <spikeh> apokryphos: but that doesn't affect Synaptic's theme
[05:59] <apokryphos> it should
[06:00] <apokryphos> spikeh: as long as in GTK styles and fonts > "Use my kde style in gtk applications"
[06:00] <spikeh> apokryphos: that's been checked
[06:00] <spikeh> apokryphos: ah okay, after a restart it's back to normal
[06:00] <spikeh> apokryphos: thanks for your help
[06:03] <spikeh> apokryphos: Synaptic is still not completely themed back to normal
[06:03] <apokryphos> what do you mean?
[06:03] <apokryphos> screeny?
[06:04] <spikeh> apokryphos: sure
[06:05] <spikeh> apokryphos: how do I take one in Kubuntu? D:
[06:05] <apokryphos> spikeh: alt+f2 > ksnapshot
[06:06] <_yannux> hye :)
[06:06] <douglas> YOu know how in the latest version, when you put in a disc it comes up with things you can do with it, like windows does, I tuned it off somehow, and now I want it back.
[06:06] <douglas> Also, when I put in a disc it tries to open the folder of the disc, and I don't want it to do that.
[06:06] <darkheart> Hello, I was looking for a little hep with the ATI binary driver. I installed it, but can't get the DRI module to load.
[06:07] <spikeh> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6419
[06:07] <apokryphos> spikeh: which part is the problem?
[06:07] <m_tadeu> apokryphos: I'm having the same problem as spikeh
[06:07] <_yannux> does someone use ftp woth konqueror ? It seems very slow here :s
[06:08] <apokryphos> _yannux: yup, works perfectly
[06:08] <apokryphos> I use fish:// more though, these days, instead
[06:08] <darkheart> Kubuntu complains that it can't find the module fglrx when I try to modprobe it.
[06:08] <_yannux> apokryphos: fish://  ?
[06:08] <_yannux> what's ?
[06:08] <spikeh> apokryphos: well, the buttons, the main menu and the dropdown menus which isn't shown
[06:09] <apokryphos> _yannux: in konqueror: help:/kioslave/fish.html
[06:09] <spikeh> they're still not themed correctly
[06:09] <_yannux> apokryphos: ok thanks ;)
[06:09] <apokryphos> spikeh: I don't think gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is perfected that much yet
[06:09] <apokryphos> those sure haven't been themed totally for me, ever, as I recall
[06:09] <spikeh> apokryphos: but it was all okay when kubuntu was first installed
[06:10] <spikeh> apokryphos: just suddenly, on one start, it broke
[06:10] <_thedoc> hi to all
[06:10] <_yannux> apokryphos: hum oki, here ftp connect and do nothing when I try to copy form ftp to local disk :s
[06:11] <apokryphos> spikeh: I don't recall it ever working like that, but it might've, I guess.
[06:11] <douglas> Am I able to upgrade to dapper right now without loosing any major functionality?
[06:11] <apokryphos> douglas: dapper is broken
[06:11] <douglas> ok
[06:11] <douglas> Did anyone see my question above?
[06:11] <apokryphos> everyone did I'm sure, yes.
[06:12] <douglas> apokryphos: do you know what I'm talking about?
[06:12] <apokryphos> yup
[06:12] <yannux> apokryphos: sorry , konversation crash
[06:12] <lorenzo> hi
[06:12] <douglas> apokryphos: do you know how to fix it?
[06:12] <lorenzo> excuse me
[06:12] <lorenzo> i have a question
[06:12] <apokryphos> douglas: nope, sorry.
[06:12] <yannux> apokryphos: you don't know where I can find the problem for this ? :s
[06:12] <douglas> thanks
[06:12] <lorenzo> anyone knows
[06:12] <apokryphos> yannux: hm, not sure why that's happening. Have you tried with multiple servers, or just one?
[06:13] <lorenzo> what does contain the ubuntu's dvd??
[06:13] <yannux> apokryphos: hum just  one, I'm trying with other now
[06:13] <apokryphos> lorenzo: ubuntu live+install
[06:13] <lorenzo> it's the *entire* universe repository?
[06:13] <lorenzo> ah
[06:13] <apokryphos> no
[06:13] <lorenzo> doh!
[06:13] <lorenzo> how is it possible to get the universe on a single dvd?
[06:13] <lorenzo> (if is it possible!!)
[06:13] <apokryphos> yannux: if you have ssh access on the server, it's really worth trying out fish
[06:14] <apokryphos> lorenzo: it probably isn't
[06:14] <lorenzo> oh
[06:14] <lorenzo> shit
[06:14] <lorenzo> :-)
[06:14] <apokryphos> lorenzo: why?
[06:14] <lorenzo> cos i got only my sweet old 56k at home
[06:14] <lorenzo> :-)
[06:15] <apokryphos> lorenzo: you may want to look into apt-zip, then
[06:15] <douglas> ok, I know what it is now, Does anyone know how to enable mime types?
[06:15] <lorenzo> or maybe i'll go back to debian....
[06:15] <apokryphos> up to you
[06:15] <lorenzo> ...
[06:15] <lorenzo> ubuntu is so UP-TO-DATE....
[06:15] <yannux> apokryphos: there is, but the web environement is chroot, and not same user id :s
[06:15] <lorenzo> and
[06:15] <lorenzo> EASY!
[06:16] <apokryphos> so look into apt-zip, then
[06:16] <chriswoodall> MoL
[06:16] <chriswoodall> is it good or bad and does it work with tiger
[06:18] <[The_Doc] > i don't know why, kde sound system sometime hang up, kde35 will fix it???
[06:21] <lorenzo> apt-zip
[06:21] <lorenzo> bleah
[06:21] <lorenzo> back to debian
[06:21] <lorenzo> thanks
[06:21] <lorenzo> bye
[06:21] <[The_Doc] > ???
[06:22] <yannux> apokryphos: I reduce some times in the system settings, it seems better :)
[06:28] <darkheart> Damn ATI driver...
[06:36] <rev> is there a way to force konqueror to use a WINS-server when doing smb:/ ?
[06:37] <m_tadeu> why does my konsole always starts maximized? what can I do to change this?
[06:37] <apokryphos> m_tadeu: change to the size you want, then settings > save as default
[06:38] <m_tadeu> kool thx a lot :)
[06:50] <m_tadeu> how do I set the default dm to kdm?
[06:53] <Snake__> !seen snake
[06:53] <ubotu> snake <n=snake@adsl-65-43-145-148.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu-offtopic, 1d 7h 5m 16s ago, saying: 'baby dats all we need'.
[06:54] <Snake__> Hmm
[06:54] <Snake__> m_tadeu: you still here?
[06:55] <m_tadeu> Snake__: sorry yes
[06:55] <Snake__> m_tadeu: you are on kubuntu correct?
[06:55] <m_tadeu> Snake__: yep
[06:56] <m_tadeu> Snake__: but I installed ubuntu first
[06:56] <Snake__> m_tadeu: at your login screen, where you type your password, it should say "Session Type" just select KDE from there, then everytime you log in, it should stay KDE, unless you log in with a diffrent session
[06:57] <Snake__> unless you log in with a diffrent desktop manager**
[06:57] <Snake__> sorry
[06:57] <Snake__> sup kkathman
[06:57] <m_tadeu> Snake__: I want to change the manager, not the default login session :)
[06:58] <Snake__> m_tadeu: I dont see what you mean.....
[06:59] <kkathman> hey Snake__ :)
[06:59] <m_tadeu> Snake__: well, you can have gdm or kdm on your login screen
[06:59] <ClayG> greets kkathman
[06:59] <kkathman> hey ClayG :)
[06:59] <ClayG> anyone here have suggestions for organizing an ipod? or finding song names if I have a bunch of 1,2,3 songs named numbers?
[06:59] <kkathman> m_tadeu: you get your dm from the splash screen - sessions
[07:00] <Snake__> kkathman: thats what I said...he said thats not what he wants lol
[07:00] <kkathman> ClayG: I org mine in playlists,
[07:00] <kkathman> Snake__: there is no other way
[07:00] <ClayG> what if you have a bunch of songs called 1
[07:00] <ClayG> and some of the songs have no words, are just beats
[07:01] <ClayG> is there a database that compaires them by fiel size?
[07:01] <kkathman> ClayG: they begin with 1 ??
[07:01] <ClayG> and give you a list of possibles?
[07:01] <ClayG> nah it's cd's that people made with a song here a song there but they named them 1,2,3,4,5, so when i transffered them over there are like 20 songs with the name 1
[07:01] <kkathman> ClayG: I think manually you have to just put those in a playlist or perhaps you can group them by group or genre?
[07:01] <m_tadeu> kkathman: I thought the dm started for the login
[07:02] <Drakeson_> how can I get the kernel source?
[07:02] <Drakeson_> what is the package name
[07:02] <kkathman> m_tadeu: no, it starts from the splash beause you can have multiples on your system of course...now you can CHANGE your default
[07:04] <stefano> put yer hands in the air like ya just dont care
[07:04] <Snake__> ,,,,
[07:04] <Snake__> troll....
[07:04] <gerst> apt-get install kernel-sources-2.6.10
[07:05] <gerst> or whatever kernel version you have
[07:05] <m_tadeu> kkathman: oki...so there is a login app from gnome and one from kde?
[07:06] <kkathman> m_tadeu: yes...your boot knows which one you choose by default. On the live CD, however, it autoselects gnome
[07:06] <kkathman> but if you have both kde and gnome you'll get a splash screen (usplash) that you can choose your session
[07:08] <kkathman> m_tadeu: thats all set up in the rc3.d script and initttab
[07:08] <Snake__> kkathman: Do you kno anything about scripting?
[07:08] <Snake__> And ill bet he feels dumb :)
[07:09] <kkathman> Snake__: what kind of scripting
[07:09] <Snake__> kkathman: Bash
[07:09] <kkathman> a little
[07:09] <Snake__> kkathman: I'm trying to do a simple echo script, and it wont work
[07:09] <Snake__> #!/bin/bash
[07:09] <Snake__> sudo echo Hello!
[07:09] <Snake__> And it tells me the commands now found
[07:09] <Snake__> not**
[07:10] <kkathman> robotgeek is the scripting master
[07:10] <Snake__> robotgeek is on vacation for 2 weeks :)
[07:10] <kkathman> oh yeah
[07:11] <kkathman> Snake__: try doing this   echo "hello"
[07:11] <Snake__> kkathman: I figured out why
[07:12] <Snake__> kkathman: I had to set chmod to allow me to execute the file
[07:12] <kkathman> not really
[07:12] <kkathman> or did you actually write a script
[07:12] <kkathman> if so, yes you have to chmod it
[07:12] <Snake__> I wrote a script lol
[07:12] <kkathman> ahh ok
[07:12] <Snake__> Yea, i forgot about that :)
[07:12] <kkathman> thought you were doing that from the cli
[07:13] <kkathman> Snake__: look (but dont touch) some of the scripts in /etc/  - good place to see whats going on
[07:13] <kkathman> like /etc/ rc3.d for instance
[07:13] <Snake__> Whats that do?
[07:13] <kkathman> rc3.d
[07:14] <kkathman> rc3d is a directory of scripts that runs on boot up for initlevel 3
[07:14] <Snake__> Ah ok
[07:15] <kkathman> in general, ubuntu uses inittab to start everything and then dumps to rc.S  scripts then to the run level as rc.x (x-0, 1, 2, 3 etc as runlevel)
[07:15] <Snake__> kkathman: would I need to type in sudo to do things that only root can do, or can I just run the script as "sudo ./hello.sh"
[07:16] <kkathman> once you chmod it (and/or chown) you shouldnt need the sudo, unless you are modding system files (which you sholdnt)
[07:17] <Snake__> Lol, no im not, but i'm writting a script so that I don't have to type "ifdown eth0, iwconfig wlan0 essid, ifup wlan0" yada yada
[07:18] <kkathman> Snake__: then no
[07:18] <Snake__> ok
[07:18] <kkathman> put it in /usr/local/bin
[07:18] <Snake__> ok
[07:18] <Snake__> Why there?
[07:19] <spikeh> how do I edit/add folders/applications to KMenu?
[07:20] <Snake__>  spikeh Right click on the "K" and use the menu editor
[07:20] <spikeh> Snake__: thank you~ :)
[07:20] <Snake__> No problem
[07:20] <kkathman> Snake__: I wrote a script that cleared my logs and then scheduled it with cron for each Friday
[07:21] <Snake__> kkathman: kewl
[07:43] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello, I am trying to insall gnokii, but it says "nokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" I have libgli2.0 , what should i do ?
[07:46] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: how are you trying to install??  using apt-get ??
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> kkathman: yes exactly
[07:47] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: it should install it for you then if it needs it I reckon
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> well the thing is, in my system i have libglib2.0
[07:48] <Java_the_Hutt> therefore, it does not install 1.2, however gnokii looks for it
[07:48] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: do a dpkg -l | grep libglib2
[07:48] <kkathman> make sure you have both the lib and the dev
[07:48] <kkathman> I cant understand why it would need the dev tho
[07:49] <udomsak> Breezy xkboption can't work  but console setxkbmap is work , what is wrong ?
[07:49] <Java_the_Hutt> kkathman: i did
[07:50] <Java_the_Hutt> i  libglib2.0-0                           2.8.3-0ubuntu1                     The GLib library of C routines
[07:50] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: you might need to do the apt-get install on that -data file too
[07:50] <kkathman> try that
[07:50] <m_tadeu> I'd like to run some apps at startup that need super user permissions. where is the best place to put them?
[07:50] <kkathman> sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-data
[07:51] <Java_the_Hutt> data ?
[07:51] <Java_the_Hutt> ok
[07:51] <kkathman> yah
[07:51] <kkathman> I have all three on my system actually
[07:51] <kkathman> m_tadeu: what kinds of things?
[07:51] <m_tadeu> kkathman: setserial and gnome-ppp with sudo
[07:52] <kkathman> m_tadeu: are you in gnome or kde?
[07:52] <m_tadeu> kkathman: kde
[07:52] <Java_the_Hutt> Package libglib2.0-data is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:52] <Java_the_Hutt> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:52] <kkathman> m_tadeu: ok...create a script with the sudo statement, then chmod it to executable, then symlink it to ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:53] <Java_the_Hutt> kkathman: what now ?
[07:53] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: are you on breezy?
[07:53] <Java_the_Hutt> yes
[07:53] <m_tadeu> kkathman: what about the password?
[07:53] <Java_the_Hutt> kkathman: yes
[07:53] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: would you please check your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if you might have universe disabled ?
[07:53] <rubem> how can i search for a file?
[07:54] <kkathman> m_tadeu: you will need to pass it as an argument in your script I reckon
[07:54] <kkathman> rubem: locate or find
[07:54] <rubem> im konqueror
[07:55] <kkathman> rubem: you cant in konqy that I know of
[07:55] <rubem> kkathman does locate and find look recursively in the directoryes?
[07:55] <kkathman> rubem: yes
[07:56] <kkathman> rubem  man find   or    man locate
[07:56] <kkathman> there are options for all that
[07:57] <udomsak> kkathman: Breezy have bug for switch keyboard layout ?
[07:57] <Java_the_Hutt> kkathman: only backports are disabled
[07:58] <kkathman> Java_the_Hutt: at your cli...could you do an apt-cache search libglib2 and see what you get
[07:58] <kkathman> cuz on my system its there
[07:58] <spikeh> I've added a new folder to the K Menu yet it's not being shown?
[07:59] <endo602> good afternoon, I just did a fresh install of kubuntu and the desktop keeps freezing up
[07:59] <kkathman> sampan: hey bro - thanx :)
[07:59] <endo602> is this a known problem?
[07:59] <sampan> hey kkathman  :)
[07:59] <kkathman> endo602: no
[08:00] <endo602> hehe
[08:00] <kkathman> endo602: works fine for me and has since warty :)
[08:00] <endo602> anyways to investigae this deeper?
[08:00] <udomsak> I'm newbie who can help me ?
[08:00] <kkathman> endo602: did you upgrade to kde 3.5 ?
[08:00] <endo602> yes
[08:00] <udomsak> I can't find  answer on google
[08:00] <kkathman> udomsak: I dont think we understand your question
[08:01] <endo602> kkathman: yes i updated
[08:01] <endo602> kkathman:  to 3.5
[08:01] <BrianB04> Hello all.
[08:01] <kkathman> udomsak: try K-menu, System Settings, Regional Accessibility, Keyboard Layouts
[08:01] <kkathman> endo602: that might be your problem
[08:01] <udomsak> kkathman: I use that but still don't work
[08:02] <kkathman> udomsak: what isnt working?
[08:02] <endo602> kkathman: how to i go about remedying this situation
[08:02] <udomsak> layout can't switch group
[08:02] <udomsak> layout group  can't switch
[08:02] <kkathman> endo602: well first, I'd check to see whats taking resource...so do a TOP at the CLI and look for big resources (i.e. the gam server for instance)
[08:03] <udomsak> but in console i can use setxkbmap to set  it can do
[08:03] <kkathman> udomsak: I dunno...beats me
[08:03] <kkathman> udomsak: are you trying to map keys on your keyboard to certain things?
[08:03] <endo602> aha
[08:03] <endo602> ok
[08:03] <udomsak> kkathman: yes
[08:04] <endo602> ill check that out
[08:04] <kkathman> udomsak: some things you can map....your extended keys (like volume for instance) you cannot
[08:04] <kkathman> hmm  I guess Java didnt do his apt-cache
[08:05] <kkathman> I suspect a problem there
[08:05] <udomsak> kkathman: I disable xkboption but I not use config from xorg.conf
[08:06] <kkathman> yah
[08:06] <udomsak> kkathman: what wrong ?
[08:07] <udomsak> kkathman: Can i edit 'setxkbmap' in xkboption ?
[08:07] <kkathman> udomsak: you can try, but I've never had much luck to be honest :(
[08:09] <udomsak> kkathman: Sorry , ?
[08:10] <kkathman> yah the KB mapping isnt really advanced in KDE Im afraid.
[08:11] <kkathman> Most MFGRS dont write drivers for their KBs in linux :)
[08:12] <udomsak> kkathman: Now  I'm try to use Kconfigeditor to solve it but have problem with make :(
[08:12] <kkathman> udomsak: well thats a different issue Im sure :)
[08:13] <udomsak> kkathman: where KDE keep configuration ?
[08:14] <udomsak> kkathman: It keep in xml file like gnome ?
[08:14] <udomsak> kkathman: It keep in xml format like gnome ?
[08:15] <kkathman> udomsak: ~/.kde
[08:15] <Drakeson> I think I need 2.6.15 in dapper to get rid of a kernel panic. Is it anywhere near usable now?
[08:17] <kkathman> Drakeson: its not too bad...you just need to understand that its far from being released
[08:17] <kkathman> Drakeson: what panic are you getting and do you know what causes it yet?
[08:17] <Drakeson> I have a legacy camera which needs spca5xx
[08:18] <kkathman> aha USB?
[08:18] <Drakeson> yep
[08:18] <kkathman> yeah I had that a long time ago under RedHat
[08:18] <kkathman> but havent under Ubuntu
[08:19] <Drakeson> you mean it was ok under redhat and not under ubunut?
[08:19] <kkathman> no...other way around
[08:19] <kkathman> I got a KP under red hat not under ubuntu
[08:19] <Drakeson> mine worked in redhat and after switching to hoary and then breezy it stopped working
[08:20] <kakei> hi i installed kwin-baghira how can i activate it?
[08:20] <Drakeson> I have read here that it is going to be resolved in 2.6.15 http://mmendes.jb0.org/blog/
[08:20] <kakei> (via aptitude install kwin-baghira)
[08:20] <kkathman> Drakeson: yah thats the kernel I believe
[08:20] <kkathman> Drakeson: I cant advise you on installing a new kernel under breezy, cuz I just dont know...but its feasible I guess
[08:21] <Drakeson> have you tried 2.6.15?
[08:21] <kkathman> nope Im still on 2.6.12-10
[08:21] <ubuntune> hello
[08:21] <Tm_T> kakei: use kcontrol
[08:21] <Drakeson> kakei: go to systemsettings, appearance, Window decoration
[08:22] <ubuntune> Ubuntu sounds like a greeting
[08:22] <kkathman> Tm_T: do you know if you can install the 2.6.15 kernel on breezy?
[08:22] <ubuntune> i say ubuntu.. you say kbuntu
[08:22] <Tm_T> kkathman: sure, compile yourself =)
[08:22] <kkathman> ubuntune: ubuntu and kubuntu are different
[08:23] <ubuntune> yes i know
[08:23] <kkathman> Drakeson: try asking Tm_T he's very good at that
[08:23] <Drakeson> yep!
[08:23] <ubuntune> i was talking about their pronuncation
[08:23] <Tm_T> no I'm not? ;)
[08:23] <kkathman> yes you are Tm_T  please dont be that way
[08:23] <kkathman> you are a guru
[08:23] <Drakeson> Tm_T: here comes me the n00b!
[08:23] <kkathman> yer an OP for crying out loud!
[08:24] <kkathman> Tm_T: knows about everything there is to know about compiling
[08:24] <Tm_T> err
[08:24] <kkathman> he runs the leading edge of everything :)
[08:24] <kkathman> AND makes it work!
[08:24] <Tm_T> why I'm asking help all the time then? ;-P
[08:24] <Drakeson> Tm_T: are you on dapper?
[08:24] <ubuntune> can anyone please steer me in the right direction for plugings that make xine play a dvd?
[08:24] <kkathman> cuz your question are always miles above all of us!
[08:25] <Tm_T> Drakeson: yes
[08:25] <Drakeson> is your machine alive?
[08:25] <kkathman> ubuntune: use kaffeine and apt-get kaffeine-xine
[08:25] <Drakeson> is it healthy?
[08:25] <Tm_T> Drakeson: yes, now
[08:26] <ubuntune> i tried that but i couldnt get it working  now i have reinstalled kbuntu and want to get xine woring with dvd's again
[08:26] <kkathman> ubuntune: try noatun?  or Totem?
[08:26] <Drakeson> do I need dist-upgrade to get there or you recommend live cds?
[08:26] <ubuntune> each needs a xine plugin also?
[08:26] <Tm_T> Drakeson: I don't recommend dapper if there's no reason to move to it
[08:27] <Drakeson> can I have 2.6.15 on breezy then?
[08:27] <Tm_T> yes, if you make "your own" kernel
[08:27] <kkathman> Tm_T: he's getting a kernel panic
[08:27] <Tm_T> compile it yourself that's it
[08:28] <Tm_T> and I don't know a thing about building kernel
[08:28] <Tm_T> never done myself
[08:28] <Drakeson> I can do it but I hope not to, It takes me some time
[08:28] <Tm_T> heh
[08:29] <Drakeson> did you dist-upgrade or used live cds?
[08:29] <Tm_T> Drakeson: kernel panic? what processor? what kernel?
[08:29] <Tm_T> Drakeson: dist-upgrade
[08:29] <Drakeson> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:29] <Tm_T> have you tried other kernels? like 686
[08:30] <Tm_T> uuh, magical uptime, over one day =)
[08:31] <Drakeson> Tm_T: yep, I have even tried K7 on another machine
[08:32] <Drakeson> the bug doesn't seem arch dependent
[08:32] <Drakeson> !dapper
[08:32] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:34] <Drakeson> Tm_T: can you give me your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:34] <Tm_T> Drakeson: well, that doesn't help you much
[08:34] <Tm_T> !sources
[08:34] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:34] <Tm_T> use source-o-matic and then change all breezy to dapper
[08:35] <Tm_T> that's how I did it
[08:37] <spikeh> how do I view NTFS partitions under Kubuntu? it says that my NTFS partitions are mounted under /media/ but when I try and access them it gives an error "could not enter folder"
[08:37] <ubuntune> does xine need xine-dvdnav to play dvd's?
[08:37] <Tm_T> testing kopete ->
[08:42] <Tm_T> nah, doesn't compile
[09:27] <Knowerrors> Hey all, Im getting this error when I try start Firefox "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" , help please
[09:27] <kakei> hey where can i edit the color of the desktop pager (desktop 1) (desktop 2) etc.
[09:27] <Lacerta> how do i mount an ISO so that applications actually know where to search for it?
[09:30] <Java_the_Hutt>  gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable
[09:30] <Java_the_Hutt>  gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable
[09:30] <Java_the_Hutt>  gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable
[09:31] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?
[09:32] <stupendo44> question: how can I capture sound that is being played?
[09:33] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?
[09:33] <stupendo44> Java_the_Hutt: you can try to override the depends, or get another version
[09:34] <Java_the_Hutt> stupendo44: should i ?
[09:34] <stupendo44> is gnokii in the repo?
[09:35] <Java_the_Hutt> stupendo44: yes
[09:35] <stupendo44> hmm
[09:35] <stupendo44> then maybe not
[09:35] <stupendo44> Java_the_Hutt: I've seen that before, but I'm not sure what the solution is
[09:35] <Java_the_Hutt> i see
[09:36] <modified> I have a 40gig fat32 hd that is mounted, but I need it mounted to where I can write to it
[09:36] <modified> I've tried everything in the /etc/fstab
[09:36] <modified> but nothing works
[09:36] <modified> I have it mounting to /home/modified/storage
[09:36] <modified> and for some reason it won't take on the default settings of /home/modified
[09:37] <kay> modified: You need to say that when mounting
[09:38] <kay> modified: In fstab, do you have a line for the mount? Does it include option ro or something possibly?
[09:38] <modified> /dev/hdb1 /home/modified/storage vfat rw,user,auto 0 0
[09:38] <modified> thats what I have now
[09:38] <kay> looks ok
[09:38] <modified> i've tried it a couple of other ways, but nothing works to where I can write to it
[09:39] <modified> in gentoo it was working just fine with that line
[09:39] <kay> That's strange, did you unmount it?
[09:39] <modified> yep
[09:39] <modified> I even restarted
[09:39] <kay> Hm... what is the permissions of a file in there?
[09:39] <kay> And who is the owner of the dir if you you at it with ls -ld
[09:40] <modified> the files should take the permissions of the storage file
[09:40] <kay> You can specify a permission mask at mount time
[09:40] <kay> And owner of the thing
[09:40] <modified> what would I add to the line?
[09:40] <kay> Please do that ls -ld /home/modified/storage
[09:40] <kay> Lets check first the bases :)
[09:41] <modified> i will, but i'm sure its fine
[09:41] <kay> Let me be sure, because something is wrong :p
[09:41] <modified> hmmm
[09:41] <modified> somethign is messed up
[09:41] <modified> root root
[09:41] <kay> That is not a user mount then
[09:41] <modified> i made that file logged in as modified
[09:42] <kay> Ah, you have auto
[09:42] <kay> And that made things mounted by root
[09:42] <modified> it didn't in gentoo
[09:42] <modified> what line should I try
[09:42] <kay> And then it is his and he doesn't allow mortals to change it
[09:42] <kay> I have to check man mount or you can :p
[09:42] <modified> I'm trying kubuntu for my GF,but I'm thinking of heading back towards gentoo, easier for me to handle
[09:43] <modified> I don't like this whole not having a root account thing
[09:43] <kay> Look at uid=modified
[09:43] <kay> And gid=users maybe
[09:44] <kakei> who can help me chaging the colors of the 1,2,3,4 (DESKTOPS) http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1473/kakei0vx.jpg
[09:44] <modified> what should the "rw,user,auto" line look like
[09:44] <kay> modified: It is easy to get a root though
[09:44] <kay> sudo passwd
[09:44] <kay> You just give root a password and be in
[09:45] <kay> Or in the alternative, you login as root from your user as sudo -i
[09:45] <modified> oh wow
[09:45] <modified> I just did that
[09:45] <modified> thanx
[09:45] <modified> just like the livecds
[09:45] <kay> What's with those CDs?
[09:46] <modified> in the gentoo livecd you don't know the root password, but you can sudo passwd it
[09:46] <modified> so then you can mount hd ont he computer
[09:46] <kay> Ah i see.... last I tried gentoo, this was not like it :)
[09:50] <modified> i guess you don't get what I'm saying
[09:50] <modified> nm
[09:51] <modified> anyways, what should I have in the /etc/fstab
[09:52] <kay> append uid=modified,gid=users to the options
[09:52] <modified> leave the "rw,user,auto" part?
[09:52] <kay> sure, although auto and user are quite a contradicition
[09:52] <kay> auto means mount at boot always
[09:53] <kay> and user would allow you to mount (and then own) it
[09:53] <modified> I had it set up to always mount at boot and where I own it before
[09:53] <modified> thats what is confusing me
[09:54] <kay> how would it know?
[09:54] <modified> [modified]  thats what is confusing me
[09:54] <modified> confusing
[09:54] <kay> i have to run
[09:55] <kay> bye :)
[09:56] <apollo2011> I just started amaroK up for the next time and hooked up my iPod and hit Connect and it crashed.  Now I can't start amaroK anymore.  it crashes.
[09:56] <apollo2011> I get this error:
[09:57] <apollo2011> $ amarok
[09:57] <apollo2011> amaroK: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp..
[09:57] <apollo2011> amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[09:57] <apollo2011> QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow
[09:57] <apollo2011> QGArray::at: Absolute index -1 out of range
[09:57] <apollo2011> amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[09:57] <ex`> Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure amarok?
[09:57] <apollo2011> no
[09:57] <apollo2011> just tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling it thats all
[09:57] <kay> ex`: Will tha clean the user config ?
[09:57] <kay> apollo2011: Did you provide --purge ?
[09:58] <ex`> kay: Not sure exactly, I don't think so. A dpkg --purge would work better, probably
[09:58] <apollo2011> I did it in Synaptic but its the equivalent of doing that
[09:58] <ex`> Synaptic only does an apt-get remove <packagename> afaik
[09:58] <kay> apollo2011: You more or less have to find amarokrc and remove it
[09:59] <kay> ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[09:59] <Java_the_Hutt> anyone e xperince with GPRS / EDGE ?
[09:59] <kay> That kind of thing will most always cure that kind of problems in KDE programs
[09:59] <Knowerrors> Im trying to fix the java plugin link for Firefox, should it be linked to /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ns4, ns610, or ns610-gcc32 folder?
[10:00] <apollo2011> kay: ok, I was looking for any config in my ~/ but I couldn't find any.  I thought maybe it was in .de
[10:05] <apollo2011> amarok is still not working
[10:09] <claydoh> try deleting/renaming ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[10:10] <_christopher> Hello, I have just installed kubuntu. I am trying to change some settings. I do not think the installation asked for my root/administrator password. How can I fix this?
[10:10] <sampan> ubotu tell _christopher about root
[10:10] <darkheart> Hello, which package would the X headers be in?
[10:11] <nalioth_zZz> !xincludes
[10:11] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[10:11] <claydoh> !root
[10:11] <ubotu> root is probably by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[10:12] <darkheart> Thanks nalioth
[10:14] <Knowerrors> nalioth: got any ideas to solve INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? on firefox startup
[10:14] <_christopher> ubotu, I enter my password and it is accepted but I cannot change any settings
[10:14] <ubotu> _christopher: I think you lost me on that one
[10:15] <nalioth> Knowerrors: factory?
[10:16] <_christopher> ubotu, examle, I try to change the date and time. I start system settings, click on 'date and time',  click 'adminsistrator mode', enter my password. My password is accepted but, all the settings are grayed out
[10:16] <ubotu> _christopher: what are you talking about?
[10:17] <_christopher> I cannot change any settings!!
[10:17] <Knowerrors> _christopher: I had this problem yesterday
[10:17] <_christopher> how did you fix it?
[10:18] <Knowerrors> _christopher: updated kde, and also kubuntu-desktop-settings
[10:18] <darkheart> Where would KDE headers be stored? Program I'm trying to configure is complaining the target folder doesn't have KDE headers.
[10:18] <Knowerrors> do you know how to do that _christopher , or should I explain more?
[10:18] <nalioth> darkheart: install kde-devel
[10:19] <darkheart> nalioth: Thanks again.
[10:19] <Knowerrors> nalioth: I don't know what factory means either, Firefox won't start, so I ran it at comman line, and got that error
[10:20] <nalioth> Knowerrors: rename your ~/.mozilla-firefox
[10:21] <Knowerrors> nalioth: rename it to ?
[10:21] <nalioth> Knowerrors: peoria
[10:22] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...i don't seem to be able to write on my fat32 partitions, even if I have them as rw in fstab
[10:22] <Knowerrors> hmm, I don't have a ~/.mozilla-firefox, just ~/.mozilla
[10:23] <nalioth> Knowerrors: how bout ~/.firefox?
[10:24] <AoP> when it says ~/.(filename) does the . mean it's hidden?
[10:25] <Knowerrors> nalioth: nope
[10:25] <Knowerrors> AoP: yup
[10:25] <AoP> Ok
[10:27] <nalioth> Knowerrors: you have nothing with 'firefox' in it hidden in your homedir? not in the .mozilla folder, perhaps?
[10:28] <Knowerrors> there is a firefox folder in .mozilla, so I renamed .mozilla, ran firefox and got same error
[10:28] <AoP> check ~/.mozilla/firefox perhaps?
[10:28] <AoP> o
[10:29] <nalioth> Knowerrors: what kind of firefox is this?
[10:29] <zsofici> Hello everybody
[10:29] <Knowerrors> nalioth: 1.07
[10:29] <zsofici> can I find a 3d world mapfor linux
[10:30] <zsofici> can I find a 3d world map for kde
[10:30] <zsofici> especially kubuntu
[10:30] <zsofici> ubunut
[10:30] <zsofici> ubunut
[10:30] <nalioth> zsofici: please don't repeat
[10:31] <nalioth> Knowerrors: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[10:32] <m_tadeu> can anyone help me with fstab?
[10:32] <zsofici> berkes:?????????
[10:32] <Knowerrors> nalioth: will try and come back later... it may be one of the plugins I installed
[10:33] <zsofici> raphink: Hello I am hunika can you help me please
[10:33] <zsofici> raphink: I need 3 d world map for linux something like that by google or by longgame
[10:34] <nalioth> Knowerrors: that is very likely, but it should have cleared it when you renamed your .mozilla folder
[10:34] <Knowerrors> nalioth: yeah, it just made a new .mozilla folder
[10:35] <nalioth> but your plugins/extensions are in the renamed one
[10:36] <Knowerrors> they were... I deleted it :(
[10:36] <Knowerrors> no biggie, can get em back quick
[10:37] <zsofici> Knowerrors: If you can please give me a tip
[10:37] <zsofici> Knowerrors: I need something like google earth for linux
[10:37] <zsofici> or a world map
[10:38] <zsofici> a World Atlas
[10:39] <zsofici> kkathman:are you there help me please
[10:39] <nalioth> zsofici: ask google "world atlas"
[10:39] <zsofici> nalioth: i NEED SOMETHING
[10:39] <zsofici> nalioth: If you something please give me
[10:39] <nalioth> zsofici: obviously we cannot help you at this time.
[10:47] <epp> hey anyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?
[10:48] <Polly_Morf> How do i fix the following error in kdevelop::
[10:48] <Polly_Morf> Terminal cant open pty
[10:49] <Polly_Morf> Anyone else who has that problem?
[10:51] <kakei> hey does any one knows how to move, the trash and the clock of the kicker bar?
[10:52] <epp> kakei, click and hold on the little bar to the right of the thing you want to move?
[10:53] <kakei> i cant ;| it doesnt move
[10:53] <m_tadeu> kakei: try unlocking the bar
[10:54] <kakei> its unlocked
[10:54] <epp> right click the thing you want to move... and pushmove?
[10:54] <bam_> anyone know of a good home backup program? automated
[10:54] <kakei> the trash and clock doesnt have that :((
[10:56] <bam_> yes they do on that damn arrow pointing up
[10:56] <m_tadeu> kakei: mine moves with the applet handles activated
[10:56] <bam_> btw, unlock your panel before you do that
[10:57] <kakei> ur trash move m_tadeu?
[10:57] <m_tadeu> kakei: not using that...only the clock
[10:58] <kakei> how did u move it m_tadeu
[10:58] <m_tadeu> kakei: i enabled the applet handles and d'n'd
[10:59] <kakei> d'n'd?
[10:59] <m_tadeu> drag and drop
[11:00] <kakei> m_tadeu, when i click the clock it shows me the calendar
[11:00] <epp> hey anyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?
[11:00] <Polly_Morf> epp: doesn't just kdevelop use $PATH?
[11:01] <m_tadeu> kakei: you should have a small vertical bar on the left side of the clock( or maybe then you move your mouse on the bar )..drag that bar
[11:04] <epp> Polly_morf how do i change it then?
[11:05] <Polly_Morf> epp: $PATH?
[11:05] <epp> POlly_morf where do i type the new one in??
[11:06] <Polly_Morf> epp: how do you mean? Add something to $PATH, or change kdevelop config?
[11:06] <epp> what do i click on in kdevelop to change it... do i open a file on my hd or do i open settings or what?
[11:07] <epp> because this is the error it gives me
[11:07] <epp> Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/lib/tools.jar
[11:07] <epp> but the real one is in /usr/lib/sun
[11:09] <Polly_Morf> ln -s /usr/lib/sun/tools.jar /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0.1.4.2.0/lib
[11:09] <Polly_Morf> i would guess
[11:09] <epp> ok
[11:09] <Polly_Morf> as root
[11:09] <Polly_Morf> chack so its the right dir
[11:12] <epp> isnt there a thing i can change in kdevelop to set a path of a compiler?
[11:13] <Elsan_> Can anyone tell me how to get back the default Kubuntu colors? I changed them by error and want them back :(
[11:14] <Polly_Morf> epp: no, i dont think so...
[11:15] <epp> ok
[11:16] <Polly_Morf> If you add a dir to your $path variable (i don't know how, since I installed linux yesterday. I only read about it).
[11:16] <Polly_Morf> maybe someone could helt
[11:16] <Polly_Morf> p
[11:17] <Java_the_Hutt> can anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?
[11:18] <kakei> hey does kde have a 'shadow' option for windows?
[11:23] <AoP> I think so kakei
[11:23] <Shadyman> Hey guys, what kind of files can i put in ~/.kde/autostart?
[11:25] <Polly_Morf> .desktop files
[11:25] <Shadyman> Polly_Morf: That's it?
[11:25] <Polly_Morf> yup
[11:25] <Shadyman> Polly_Morf: No way to make sure one gets run before the other?
[11:26] <Polly_Morf> put a shellscript or something in there
[11:26] <Polly_Morf> dont know if it works
[11:26] <Shadyman> hmm doh!
[11:26] <Shadyman> command: shell script lol
[11:26] <Shadyman> makes sense.
[11:26] <darkheart> Anyone use yakuake and know how to make it transparent?
[11:26] <Java_the_Hutt> can anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?
[11:26] <Polly_Morf> darkheart: rightclick select a different theme
[11:27] <Polly_Morf> settings -> schema -> transparent something
[11:27] <darkheart> Polly_Morf: LOL thank you.
[11:27] <darkheart> Polly_Morf: Man, that was so simple...I was looking around in the config files, stumped.
[11:28] <Polly_Morf> darkheart: shit happens :P
[11:28] <Elsan_> Can anyone tell me how to get back the default Kubuntu colors? I changed them by error and want them back :(
[11:28] <darkheart> =)
[11:28] <Polly_Morf> Elsan_: if nothing helpes: create a new account and take those colors. I changed my long ago
[11:29] <Shadyman> Any way to run more than one command in a .desktop file? a semicolon?
[11:31] <Polly_Morf> try adding several Exec=
[11:31] <Polly_Morf> Shadyman:
[11:32] <Shadyman> Polly_Morf: ok
[11:32] <Polly_Morf> nope.-.. it doesnt work, Shadyman
[11:33] <Polly_Morf> Shadyman: a semicolon
[11:33] <Polly_Morf> Shadyman: trial and error
[11:33] <Elsan_> Polly_Morf: Thanks
[11:33] <Shadyman> Polly_Morf: OK
[11:33] <Elsan_> Maybe someone can pack and sned me their colors...
[11:35] <Polly_Morf> Elsan_ I might have them on another account.. wat 2 sec
[11:36] <Polly_Morf> Elsan_: nope sorry... found nothing on kde-llok either
[11:36] <Elsan_> Polly_Morf: Thanks anyway!
[11:38] <Elsan_> Can anyone pack the default Kubuntu colors(System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> Save Model) as a .kcsrc and send the file to me please?
[11:39] <Polly_Morf> Elsan_:
[11:39] <Polly_Morf> oops
[11:40] <Polly_Morf> um no... nothing
[11:57] <Java_the_Hutt> anyone can help me with PPPD options and scripts ?
[11:58] <bam_> save a file in vi anyone?
[11:59] <bam_> mn...founf it
[12:00] <Java_the_Hutt> bam found it ?
[12:00] <Shadyman> bam!
[12:00] <Java_the_Hutt> try :w
[12:02] <bam_> i noticed my kubuntu using nano as the default editor?