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polpakossie, use gparted?12:00
lucasvoossie: put in a live cd and run gparted12:00
ossiei want to make a backup so that i dont have to recompile my kernel again etc ?12:00
Benjamin_Lmwe, can't seem to find something unusual, its strange12:00
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ossieok ill try with live cd12:00
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robotgeekN6REJ: there was a nice article on tldp.org, i quit on LVM12:00
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mweBenjamin_L: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.1.log doesn't give you anything useful?12:00
ossieis there a way of making backup though, would be very handy12:00
morphosc ou le chat franais ?12:00
apokryphos!fr12:01
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais12:01
lampshadejdier:  No effect  are there any other files I could be missing that I have to edit?12:01
Benjamin_Lmwe, I think X does start up, otherwise it wouldn't work with 2.6.1212:01
Storkhow come my gnump3d server is only accessible on the LAN, not the WAN ?12:01
N6REJrobotgeek, ok.  its working but its got permissoins set to root and I can't change it :(12:01
sorush20guys what is the next best think after ubuntu.. interms of ease of installation in live mode or install mode?12:01
Benjamin_Lmwe, but I wonder why gdm doesn't load into GNOME as it does with 2.6.1212:01
mweBenjamin_L: what. it used to work but you upgraded the kernel and now it crashes?12:01
shimmmysorush20: what do you mean?12:01
apokryphossorush20: that's debian-based: Mepis.12:01
shimmmysorush20: ya.. just debian base?12:01
SepheebearN6REJ: if you're not familiar with LVM Id suggest you use the ubuntu installer to get you going12:02
adam_Eleaf... during the config of VMWare Player, I get:12:02
mweBenjamin_L: tell me what you did. you upgraded the kernel and it broke or what?12:02
adam_sudo apt-get install build-essential12:02
Benjamin_Lmwe, I dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper and now I have a 2.6.12 kernel without working sound and this problem using 2.6.15-912:02
apokryphosnon-debian based: distros like SuSE are a lot more polished, in many areas, than ubuntu.12:02
adam_er.. no sorry12:02
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adam_None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Player is suitable for your12:02
adam_running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for12:02
adam_your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]  y12:02
mweBenjamin_L: how did you get 2.6.15-9 ?12:02
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apokryphosBenjamin_L: it's recommended that you do not use dapper, needless to say.12:02
Sepheebearhttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html12:02
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Benjamin_Lapokryphos, I know, it works flawlessly on my laptop12:03
adam_Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.12:03
adam_What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running12:03
adam_kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 12:03
mweBenjamin_L: oh it's dapper?12:03
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mweBenjamin_L: it's broken12:03
apokryphosadam_: don't paste in here, please.12:03
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N6REJSepheebear, its installed, one of the partitions I made is /home/music where I wanted to put all my mp3's.  The problem is is that the permissions for that folder are root.root and even when I sudo -i I can't change that :(12:03
Benjamin_Lmwe, my laptop works12:03
apokryphosor that happens 8)12:03
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ossieadam u may have to download the headers in synaptic, that might help12:03
mweBenjamin_L: I can't support dapper, sorry12:03
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Benjamin_Lmwe, no problem :)12:03
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eppis there a program to hook my pda to linux?12:03
lllmanulllepp: gnome-pilot ?12:03
ossieadam also after downloading the headers, u might not recognise them untill u restart vmware12:04
SepheebearN6REJ: that's a mount issue mountpoints by default are owned by root when called from fstab12:04
Benjamin_Lmwe, I don't want apper support. Just thought I miss some package as installing restricted modules brought up usplash which didn't work before that either12:04
Storkhow come my gnump3d server is only accessible on the LAN, not the WAN ?12:04
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N6REJSepheebear, ok, I want any user even samba shares to be able to access that folder.12:04
mweBenjamin_L: however, one piece of advice is to check ~/.xsession-errors and the other log files in /var/log as well12:04
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eppdoes that support ppc?12:04
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MarcNepp: for windows based pdas there is multisync.  for palm, there are a bunch, evolution's gnome-pilot, jpilot, etc12:05
mebaran151is it just me, or does Evolution produce buggy vcf's?12:05
mebaran151and if so, how can I fix them12:05
mebaran151it messes up synce12:05
eppMarcN, thank you so much, i have been looking for that answer forver.12:05
mebaran151by filling in all the empty fields12:05
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mebaran151with ;'s?12:05
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N6REJSepheebear, wait, I just realized something, I made it a fat32 partitoin instead of ext3 :(  I bet thats what I did wrong :(12:06
Benjamin_Lmwe, this is how it looks: http://www.lebsanft.org/.xsession-errors12:07
N6REJSepheebear, what can I use to "administrate" that partition?12:07
SepheebearN6REJ: try man mount and go to the section "Mount options for fat"12:07
N6REJSepheebear, tyvm.12:07
sunsunhey how do i restart alsa?12:08
SepheebearN6REJ: use those options in /etc/fstab12:08
shawarmasunsun: /etc/init.d/alsa restart12:08
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N6REJSepheebear, which options? I'm still looking12:09
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KyralSeveas: ping12:09
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shawarmaN6REJ: If you were a bit more specific as to what you actually want to do, it'd be easier to answer your question.12:09
SeveasKyral, ICMP ECHO REPLY12:10
_dodo_hallo! I need help, i've downloaded a new graphics card driver and i'll have to edit xorg.conf, but i dont know howto12:10
Kyralhahah12:10
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sunsun/etc/init.d/alsa restart12:10
KyralSeveas: Do you mind if I add some notes about using FreeNX to the Wikipage?12:10
N6REJshawarma, AHA I think I see it!  I need to use the UID, GID options.12:10
Seveasof course not, it's a wiki :)12:10
mweBenjamin_L: loads of warnings about failed ipp requests. probably a misconfigure printer. not fatal. then some errors about terminal emulators. none of those should prevent X from starting afaik.12:10
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N6REJshawarma, I was trying to change the ownership of a fat32 partition.  I originally thought it was a LVM problem but I see the issue now.12:10
KyralSeveas: I tend to like letting the original author know ;P12:10
regeya_annoyance: in Evolution (and only in Evolution) almost all the button icons show up with this document-with-x-in-middle icon.  any ideas?  I looked in .gtkrc-2.0 (which did exist until just now, had been written by kde, oddly enough) and no icon theme specified there.12:11
N6REJTHANKS12:11
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SeveasI don't :)12:11
N6REJevening Seveas12:11
Benjamin_Lmwe, I think X does start up as after the flickering I get a dark but different from totally black screen12:11
redearthhey Seveas!  Is your lack of patience with a newbie typical in the Linux community?  I join an IRC channel for the first time in my life for some help, paste a few lines of text and without warning, you ban me!12:11
Storkwhat the hell12:11
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Storkthis is confusing as hell12:11
regeya_*grumble* *mutter* *mutter* *grumble*12:11
SepheebearN6REJ: one solution would be to create a user "music" in the group "music", mount the partition with the options "uid=$(id -u music),gid=$(id -g music)"12:11
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ossieredearth, whats wrong ?12:11
Seveasredearth, we have a zero tolerance policy on pasters and ban avoiders in here12:11
Sepheebearthen add the users that you want to have access to that share to the "music" group12:11
redearthwell, how am I supposed to know that as a newbie?12:12
regeya_redearth, did you flood the channel?12:12
mweBenjamin_L: you don't even get to the login screen before the flickering?12:12
Seveasread the topic12:12
N6REJSepheebear, perfect!12:12
regeya_oh heh12:12
_dodo_Dows somone in here know lots about how to change display driver using xorg.conf12:12
Seveasit's so simple12:12
redearth??12:12
regeya_barely adequate eh redearth?12:12
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revHow do I fix this (make-kpkg) -> dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-source-2.6.15-rc7-ubuntu1 not in control info12:12
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Benjamin_Lmwe, flickering is normal just before the login screen but it doesn't get that far12:12
ossie_dodo_, have u tried to vi the xorg.conf file and make sure that the display card is pointing to the right pci device, this fixed mine when i installed my grap[hics card12:13
N6REJi'm off to go give that a try... thanks everyone12:13
redearthregeya_  i pasted 6 lines or so.  So, where are the rules for irc usage then?12:13
Seveasredearth, REEAD THE TOPIC12:13
Sepheebear_dodo_: check the "Device" section in xorg.conf12:13
mweBenjamin_L: isn't there a /var/log/gdm.log file? if so, check it out if you didn't already12:13
ossiealso there is a command one of these guys should know that reconfigures your X, dpakg something12:13
sambagirlthere is no ignorance of the law here12:13
redearthwhat topic?  where?  how?  I'M A NEWBIE!!!12:13
Seveassigh12:13
Seveaschannel topic12:13
Seveaswhich you SEE WHEN JOINING12:13
regeya_ /topic12:14
shawarmaredearth: Do you use xchat?12:14
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mwerofl12:14
redearthyes12:14
shawarmaredearth: Check the tab that has opened..12:14
_dodo_ossie: ive installed the driver via_drv_0 is that what im supposed to write in xorg.conf12:14
Benjamin_Lmwe, no gdm.log12:14
regeya_redearth, there's this bar at the top of xchat with the topic.  it's right below the menu bar.  *sigh*12:14
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sambagirlfor ubuntu to be a success you must have patience with the end users since end the end they will determine the success of ubuntu12:14
Benjamin_Lmwe, but there is a gdm folder with some logs12:14
ossieif u do , lspci it will list pce devices, with a number like 00:00:0 , make sure the lspci one is the same in xorg.conf12:15
shawarmaredearth: See it?12:15
shawarmaredearth: The other tab, that is..12:15
regeya_sambagirl, my experience has shown that end users don't want to learn.12:15
_dodo_ossie: kay12:15
mweBenjamin_L: yeah. look there. kdm, which I use, has just a file, no subdir12:15
shawarmaredearth: In standard xchat i believe it's a the bottom of the window.12:15
Seveassambagirl, end users with such attitude don't deserv any patienc since it won't help at all12:15
sambagirlok12:15
kbrooksI need help12:15
ossie_dodo_, do lspci find number of graphics card, make sure it is the same in xorg.conf12:15
regeya_at least as a USian my experience has been that USian users can't be bothered to read instructions before the rush in, and if that doesn't work, well hell, it's not worth it then12:16
Seveaskbrooks, with what?12:16
regeya_or they'll just bug the hell out of the closest person who looks like they know what they're doing.12:16
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kbrookswell12:16
ltibor65Seveas, are you every day here?12:16
Benjamin_Lmwe, http://lebsanft.org/gdm.log there are some errors12:16
Seveasltibor65, sort of12:16
kbrooksI want to clean my comp out12:16
Seveaskbrooks, debfoster :)12:16
kbrooksof old software12:16
MarcN _dodo_; you should be able to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or whichever xserver you are using, maybe xfree86) and let the configuration tool write a new one for you.12:16
kbrooksi never use12:16
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regeya_I get nothing done at work some days because people won't #$%!ing read.12:16
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Seveasregeya_, relax, have a cookie :)12:17
_dodo_MarcN: thanx12:17
kbrooksSeveas, "old software"12:17
regeya_Seveas, heh12:17
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regeya_Seveas, after the work week's done for me this week, it's a wonder all my coworkers are *alive*.12:17
Seveasregeya_, come to #ubuntu-offtopic please :)12:17
MarcNkbrooks: deborphan is part of the way, then fireup synaptic or aptitude and see what you want to remove.12:17
regeya_heh sorry Seveas12:17
mweBenjamin_L: ok. try disabling the modules it complains about in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (back it up first). then see if X starts. then figure out how to get them working if it starts12:18
Benjamin_Lmwe, almost the same errors are there on 2.6.12 too so I guess its something else12:18
sunsun!alsa-source12:18
mweBenjamin_L: the modules are GLcore and theatre_detect12:18
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ltibor65Seveas, are yuo here the Boss?12:19
Seveasltibor65, no the boss is sabdfl12:19
bor_bonsoir  tous12:19
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bor_je me lance dans ubuntu12:19
regeya_!english12:19
uboturegeya_: Not a clue12:19
kbrooksSeveas,12:19
regeya_oh come on12:19
wertycan anyone help me with my tablet12:19
kbrooksi have a question12:19
bor_sorry12:19
kbrooksanother one12:19
Seveasbor, on parle anglais ici, #ubuntu-fr est francophone12:19
Benjamin_Lmwe, I'll try tomorrow. I'm too tired to change something now ;) thanks for your help12:19
kbrookshow can I do sysem backups?12:20
BraveFencerKirbyHey, can someone help me?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older comp and my connection cut out while I was downloading the ISO.  I'm not sure if I got it all or not and I don't understand the verifyISOhowto page on the wiki.12:20
bor_sorry for the mistake12:20
Seveaskbrooks, oh no :)12:20
Seveaskbrooks, tar, gzip, rsync :)12:20
ltibor65Seveas, what is sabdfl?12:20
Seveasltibor65, He's the boss :)12:20
Seveasltibor65, wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth12:20
ossie!tell ossie nvidia12:20
kbrooksltibor65, self appointed benevolent dictator for life12:20
kbrookslike Guido van Rossum12:20
ossie!tell me nvidia12:20
ossie!tell nvidia12:21
Seveasossie, /msg ubotu nvidia12:21
ossiecheers12:21
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kbrooksis deborphan curses based?12:21
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cafuegokbrooks: No.12:22
cafuegokbrooks: it'12:22
cafuegos /dev/stdout based12:22
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kbrookscafuego, Why does it install dialog12:22
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kbrooksi'd like to know?12:22
Seveasdialog does not use curses per se12:22
cafuegokbrooks: Coz it depends on it.12:22
ruddyhallo, iedereen ;-)12:22
kbrookscafuego, what for?12:22
cafuegokbrooks: dialogs?12:22
Seveasruddy, engels aub, nederlands kan in #ubuntu-nl12:23
BxLhow so I add multiverse repos?12:23
ITSa341can anyone recommend a replacement for speedswitch ( allows you to control cpu speed through powernow )12:23
cafuegokbrooks: ... and dialog uses curses as last-resort fall-back, so demands it.12:23
Seveas!tell BxL about repos12:23
BxLwoo12:23
cafuego!nl12:23
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.12:23
ltibor65Seveas, are you from Holland?12:23
SeveasITSa341, powernowd12:23
MarcNkbrooks: command line that dumps a list of unused packages.12:23
kbrookswhat the?12:23
Seveasltibor65, yes12:23
Sepheebearhey Seveas, how about a line like "Ubuntu Help: /msg ubotu <topic>" in the topic line like #debian has?12:23
cafuego!nl =~ s/klaar./klaar. We doen niet aan thee./12:23
ubotucafuego: OK12:23
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ITSa341Seveas  powernowd is automatic, no manual control. right?12:24
Seveas!nl =~ s/klaar. We doen niet aan thee./klaar./12:24
ubotuSeveas: OK12:24
kbrooksMarcN, the list has packages I use - why?12:24
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sunsuncrimsun, this time i cannot get sound out of my ubuntu install...12:24
Seveasrofl :)12:24
N6REJSepheebear, it didn't work :(  please look at this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639412:24
ltibor65Seveas, and how old are you?12:24
kbrookswill removing ruby-gnome2 remove deps?12:24
Seveasltibor65, #ubuntu-offtopic please for such questions12:25
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MarcNkbrooks: deborphan gives a list of typically library packages that aren't used by installed packages.  You may want to consider removing them.  If apt says it is going to remove a package you use, then decline.12:25
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kbrooksMarcN, where do I pass the list to?12:25
BraveFencerKirbyHey, can someone help me?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older comp and my connection cut out while I was downloading the ISO.  I'm not sure if I got it all or not and I don't understand the verifyISOhowto page on the wiki.12:25
ITSa341Seveas  powernowd is automatic, no manual control. right?12:25
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MarcNkbrooks: apt-get remove package1 package2 ...12:26
SepheebearN6REJ: sorry i didnt explain, replace the uid and gid with the actual numbers. the 'id' command was what you would use to derive those numbers12:26
SeveasITSa341, correct12:26
kbrooksMarcN, no12:26
N6REJSepheebear, oh, ok... ty.12:26
Sepheebearbut fstab's not a shell script12:26
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, how big is the iso you have?12:26
kbrooksMarcN, i dont want to type things manually12:26
MarcNkbrooks: tough12:26
ITSa341Seveas   anything you can recommend with manual control so I can force a low speed to save batteries.12:26
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, and which one is it?12:26
BraveFencerKirbyWhich what?12:26
SeveasITSa341, not off the top of my head12:27
_dodo_ossie: so I can use lspci to find out what BUS id i should use?12:27
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, which is (filename)12:27
kbrooksi'll hack something up, MarcN12:27
Seveaswhich iso*12:27
ITSa341ok  thanks anyway12:27
kbrooksin python12:27
mark_Help, I'm currently using ndiswrapper, whenever I try to setup static IP as 192.168.1.110 / 192.168.1.1 as default gateway, I cannot access any pages yet I can if its dynamic.....12:27
BraveFencerKirbyFilename of the ISO? ubuntu-5.10-install-i38612:27
N6REJSepheebear, WONDERFUL!!! and I learned something too.  tyvm!12:27
_dodo_ossie: so I can use lspci to find out what BUS id i should use?12:27
SepheebearN6REJ: yw12:27
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, and the size of the iso?12:27
BraveFencerKirby617 MB12:28
N6REJSepheebear, now the real test will be if cantus can rename the files becaue they have windows spacing and punctiation in them and so I need to use cantus to fix all that.12:28
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Sepheebeartry easytag if cantus cant do it for you12:28
N6REJSepheebear, ok.12:28
N6REJSepheebear, cantus couldn't do it last time because it wasn't running as root12:29
Sepheebeareasytag's a little unintuitive at first but you get the hang of it after some trial and error12:29
revnoone knows how to fix this error when compiling a kernel? ... dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-source-2.6.15-rc7-ubuntu1 not in control info ...comeon :)12:29
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, 617MB sounds good, what don't you understand about that wikipage?12:29
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alpha255sooo, I have a hp laptop w/winxp, repartitioned the drive for a breezy 5.10 and install worked great12:29
SepheebearN6REJ: sudo chmod -R g+rw /home/music12:30
alpha255quickplay doesn't work though12:30
ComradeVladimiralpha255 me too12:30
alpha255i installed grub in the mbr12:30
sunsunhello12:30
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alpha255i edited the /boot/grub/menu or whatever that file is to remove the other12:30
alpha255for quickplay12:30
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BraveFencerKirbyIt says to download two files, which I did, and then something about running GnuPG.  No idea what GnuPG is and neither of those files are executable.12:31
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alpha255ComradeVladimir, i read that it should work12:31
N6REJSepheebear, ok, I'll do that ... *phone*12:31
lampshadeI am messing around with menus in Fluxbox because mine won't work  Basically, nothing on the menus will come up when viewing the desktop over VNC.  The clock, and then menus themselves show up, but upon clicking an item like Bash, nothing happens.  Looking at the logfile, it complains that it can't find xterm and can't set any of the values session.this and session.that values.  Any ideas?12:31
alpha255ComradeVladimir, on a couple of web pages12:31
MarcNkbrooks: this is what you want, no python needed:    apt-get remove $(deborphan)      you decide if you want to remove the listed packages or not.12:31
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, are you running windows right now?12:31
BraveFencerKirbyYeah.12:31
alpha255ComradeVladimir, do you think i need to use a windows bootloader?12:31
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alpha255instead of grub?12:31
ComradeVladimiralpha255 ive had it on a dell desktop for a long time and im usin it now12:32
gerald-voltanyone know of a 3d cad software for linux?12:32
SeveasBraveFencerKirby, download http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe and put it in c:\winnt\system32 (if you use XP/2000)12:32
ComradeVladimiralpha255 u use grub12:32
alpha255ComradeVladimir, quickplay12:32
alpha255?12:32
lucasvogerald-volt: brl-cad12:32
alpha255yep grub in the mbr12:32
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gerald-voltthanks12:32
alpha255ComradeVladimir, reinstalled quickplay from cd too12:33
ComradeVladimirok12:33
alpha255ComradeVladimir, wonder if partitions are not being seen12:33
alpha255let me run fdisk --list12:33
ComradeVladimiralpha255 whatdo you mean12:33
alpha255500mb thing12:34
kbrooksMarcN, ty12:34
alpha255for quickplay12:34
alpha255can't see past that on the drive12:34
ComradeVladimirk12:34
MarcNkbrooks: shell scripting can handle more of your admin'ing needs.12:34
gerald-volthhmmm, i was thinking of something that's similar to autodesk inventor kinda thing12:34
kbrooksMarcN, true. python is nice though12:34
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mwepython rocks!12:35
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alpha255hda1 is nfts -winxp12:35
mebaran151where could I find some evolution help12:36
alpha255hda2 is linux plaintext quickplay12:36
mebaran151I think the vcf's it generates are buggy12:36
mwemebaran151: maybe in here if you're more specific12:36
alpha255mebaran151, send me an email...12:36
mebaran151ok12:36
alpha255witht he vcf12:36
mebaran151ok12:36
mebaran151I'm not sure12:36
mebaran151but it fills some files with semi colons12:36
BraveFencerKirbySeveas: I've got no folder called winnt on my c drive12:36
mebaran151but it doesn't always do it12:36
N6REJSepheebear, that didn't work.  even after I added root and troy to the music group it won't change the permissions.12:36
mebaran151only on certain contacts12:37
mebaran151which is odd12:37
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mebaran151but if they have a certain name, or certain birthday12:37
mebaran151I get semicolons ending every field12:37
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SepheebearN6REJ: what's the permissions? ls -l file.ogg12:37
MarcNmebaran151: file a bug report with bugzilla.gnome.org under evolution.  check to see if there is an evolution irc channel, check evolution website to see if there is a forum...12:37
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N6REJSepheebear, the /home/music folder has 755 permissions12:38
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Sepheebearhow about the files?12:38
N6REJSepheebear, let me look.12:39
N6REJSepheebear, same.12:39
mebaran151MarcN, I've tried12:40
N6REJSepheebear, should I remove the "quiet" statement so we can see the 'error'?12:40
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SepheebearN6REJ: sure let's see12:40
N6REJk12:40
mebaran151but Novell has Evolution under lock and key, or at least not sure12:41
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mebaran151alpha255, your request failed12:41
mebaran151pm me I suppose12:41
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SepheebearEvo is open source AFAIK otherwise it wouldnt be in ubuntu main12:41
masei need help, need latest version of libstdc++6, how do i get it ??12:42
mebaran151Sepheebear, yeah12:42
mebaran151but resources aren't made super open12:42
mebaran151it's open source I think the same way Suse was12:42
Sepheebearmaybe there just arent any12:42
N6REJSepheebear, no errors, but still 75512:42
Sepheebeardevs almost always hate writing documentation12:42
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leagrishello12:43
N6REJSepheebear, is the LVM system stopping us somehow?12:43
alpha255mebaran151, thomas@tecsplace.com send email there12:43
leagrisis there someone that configured openldap on ubuntu breezy here ?12:44
mebaran151alpha255, just a troublesome vcard?12:44
SepheebearN6REJ: so all files look like "-rw-rw-r--  1 music music 1.3k 2005-12-25 04:10 file.ogg"?12:44
alpha255k12:44
alpha255i could test it12:44
alpha255use evolution here12:44
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leagrisI am reading instruction here http://samba.idealx.org/smbldap-howto.en.html#htoc14 but I've seen default ubuntu slapd.conf setup differently12:44
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SepheebearLVM AFAIK doesnt have anything to do with permissions12:45
N6REJSepheebear, no, thats 664 :D  -rwxr-xr-x  1 music music 3298202 2005-12-30 00:24 10 I Just Wanna Be Mad.mp312:45
MalachiHow can I sinc a file in Linux?12:45
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leagrisI'd like to know if there is a ubuntu standard on setting up OpenLDAP with Ubuntu12:45
Dr_WillisMalachi,  you mean 'sync' ?12:45
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leagrisOr if I can go the proposed way in this documentation without breaking future Ubuntu updates ?12:46
MalachiBy sinc, I mean edit a file in one place, and have another file in a seperate location update....12:46
SepheebearN6REJ: that's the problem here " -rwxr-xr-x  1 music music" should be " -rw-rw-r--  1 music music"12:46
Sepheebeardont need to set the -x bit12:46
MalachiDr_Willis: I was getting there =) Hope it makes since.12:46
Dreamglideri have problems with grub, i tride to install damnsmalllinux and it installed grub on hda2, i deleted that partion but grub remains there, i had grub allready on hdb1 wich is the ubuntu disk. how can i have the system boot the grub on hdb1 ?12:46
N6REJSepheebear, ok, let me try that.12:46
SepheebearN6REJ: in other words that file's not group writable12:47
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Dr_WillisMalachi,  explaining what/why are you trying to do excactly - may get you some answers from these people.12:47
N6REJright.12:47
cyphasemy cousin in the UK just told me her friend got a dell laptop with firefox and *openoffice*12:47
cyphasefirefox is oublic knowledge now12:47
SepheebearN6REJ: "sudo chmod -R g=rw /home/music"12:47
cyphasebut has anyone said anything about dell shipping OO.org?12:47
Dr_WillisDreamglider,  i can set in my bios which hd to boot first.12:48
MalachiDr_Willis: Mhmm...12:48
DreamgliderDr_Willis, i cant12:48
N6REJk12:48
SepheebearN6REJ: "sudo chmod -R 664 /home/music"12:48
gerald-voltanyone know what package I need to install for this error?12:48
gerald-volt./bin/racer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:48
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Dr_WillisDreamglider,  you could edit the grub configs for the disrto that is booting.. to boot the other disrto.12:49
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kuraiahi all12:49
N6REJSepheebear, would you believe chmod 664 changed it to 644?12:49
N6REJsomething weird is going on.12:49
kuraiai can't execute sudo like a normal user12:49
kuraiahow can i do it?12:49
MalachiHere's what I'm trying to do: I have a OpenOffice Calc file in one location. In another shared location, I have the same file. When I edit the file, I want the shared file to be updated.12:49
SepheebearN6REJ: add umask=664,dmask=664 to your fstab as well12:49
hydroksydeN6REJ, umask?12:49
N6REJSepheebear, ok.12:49
DreamgliderDr_Willis, let me get back i'll check12:50
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kuraiahow can i execute sudo like a normal user in ubuntu?12:50
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SepheebearN6REJ: that way newly created files will have the correct permissions12:51
N6REJSepheebear, OMG!!  you won't believe what that did!!  d--x--x-wx  195 music music 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 music12:51
Dr_Williskuraia,  'like a normal user' is sort of vague.. rephrase the question i think would help.12:51
gerald-volthow do I find a file containing a certain word12:52
kuraiaDr_Willis , how can i give permissions to one user to execute sudo?12:52
acadcan i upgrade my kernel in ubuntu or will that mess up everything if the new one doesn't work?  If i understand it right- it'll just add the option to boot a different kernel  to the boot menu.12:52
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RedRosehow do i change the group ownership of a file?12:52
N6REJSepheebear, and then sudo chmod 664 -R /home/music changed everything to   d---------  195 music music 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 music12:52
kuraiaDr_Acemaster, sorry i'm spanish speaker but nobody helps me in ubuntu-es12:52
acadRedRose chown username file12:53
RedRoseacad:that's the user, but not the group12:53
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Dr_Williskuraia,  i seem to recall in the GNOME 'user controll panel tool' that there was a tab/checkbox to do that.. not sure how you do it the old fashoned way12:53
SepheebearN6REJ: that's nuts! do "sudo chmod -R 644 /home/music/*"12:53
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acadRedRose- aww my bad12:53
RedRoseanyone, how do i change the group that owns a file?12:53
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ZambbaRedRose: chown user:group file12:54
RedRosety12:54
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N6REJSepheebear, says nu such directory12:54
N6REJSepheebear, its stoned!!!12:54
acadRedRose- now  I think about it your right.  never did that before.  i know i edited a file once to do it.  not the easier way to do it12:55
ZambbaLol, left after got answer to his/her question :D12:55
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acad:)12:55
acadwhy stay?  :)12:55
N6REJSepheebear, I remember vaguely that umask is supposed to be inverted from what you really want?12:55
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BxL!easysource12:56
ubotufrom memory, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:56
N6REJhydroksyde, umask where?12:56
hydroksydeerm12:56
hydroksydesomewhere12:56
hydroksydeon the moon?12:57
N6REJhydroksyde, lol12:57
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hydroksydeI don't know the details of your problem12:57
globe_help with wireless dns problems.  ping, host, telnet work fine but firefox, gaim, xchat dont12:57
hydroksydeso I can't help, sorry12:57
N6REJhydroksyde, I have an LVM partition that is bewitched!12:57
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hydroksydeN6REJ, if it's behaving illogically for no good reason, your hardware might be flaky12:57
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N6REJhydroksyde, nope, brand new stuff, has always worked fine.  This has something to do with LVM12:58
hydroksydeN6REJ, but before you come to that conclusion, check some other things12:58
hydroksydeok12:58
hydroksydehmmm12:58
SepheebearN6REJ: oh yeah that's true oops!12:58
hydroksydeI don't know LVM12:58
hydroksydeumask is subtracted from masl12:58
hydroksydemask12:58
N6REJhydroksyde, that makes a million of us.12:59
SepheebearN6REJ: that's what happens when you work too fast12:59
N6REJhydroksyde, well we want a umask of 66412:59
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N6REJhydroksyde, change that.  I want EVERYONE in the music group to be able to do read/write to anything int he music folder12:59
versailyarrg01:00
versailythere we go...01:00
ricky_Salhi guys , I have a problem trying to add modules to the kernel , when I type make menuconfig it says that the gcc-version.sh scritps cant find gcc 3.401:00
PeteyPabloWOW the riaa suck01:00
versailycan someone plz help me get java on a g4 powerpc01:00
Dr_WillisPeteyPablo,  Yes  they do.01:00
hydroksydeN6REJ, you want a umask of 113 I think... read=4, write=2, execute=101:00
PeteyPabloDr_Willis: seen the new article? http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051230-5871.html01:00
PeteyPablothey forced some kid into commiting perjury01:01
N6REJhydroksyde, k, I'll try that.01:01
N6REJbrb01:01
versailyrickey_sal try sudo apt-get install gcc-3.401:01
Seveas!tell versaily about java01:01
hydroksydeN6REJ, but remember, for directories, execute means the ability to enter them01:01
N6REJhydroksyde, ok, well I need that too :D01:01
hydroksyde002 then01:01
alpha255N6REJ,  u could add all your users on the system to be part of the group that owns the music folder01:01
N6REJhydroksyde, ok.01:01
N6REJalpha255, yeah, thats what we're doing.01:01
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alpha255ahh01:02
alpha255sorry missed that01:02
ricky_Salversaily , I cant connect to internet , that its i have to add a usb module to make my modem works01:02
globe_help with wireless dns problems.  ping, host, telnet work fine but firefox, gaim, xchat dont.  How do I tell xwin apps to look at the right dns01:02
alpha255N6REJ, you could also suid on the folder too01:02
N6REJBINGO!01:02
versailyoh...01:02
alpha255N6REJ, that way all the files there take on that group id01:02
N6REJI think we have lift off!01:02
alpha255nice01:03
N6REJlet me check.01:03
Dr_WillisPeteyPablo,  The solution is simple.. a total boycott of all music. :P well NPR is ok...01:03
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MalachiIn Windows, you can make batch files to run multiple commands. How do you do that in Linux (and what are the files called)?01:03
acadi've boycotted all music since i was born01:03
PeteyPabloDr_Willis: i wont boycott, i'll do worse ill keep downloading it illegally till the cows come home01:03
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PeteyPabloDr_Willis: who can afford 20.00 for a cd? thats extortion01:04
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acad:) don't own a single audio CD- the bad part is that they still get royalty from movies that i watch01:04
gerald-volthow do I display the links using ln I made01:04
Dr_WillisPeteyPablo,  So you are making excuses.. :P  i still state 'The solution is simple.. a total boycott of all music.'01:04
N6REJSepheebear, we did it!01:04
N6REJhydroksyde, TY!01:04
acadi have a better solution01:04
acadsteal the music01:04
globe_Malachi: I think you are looking for shell scripts.  They are just like dos batch files (text file with commands on seperate lines)01:04
PeteyPabloDr_Willis: i'm not making excuses, i came right out and said i'd download it illegaly is that an excuse?01:04
acadand don't listen to it01:05
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dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:05
Dr_Willisacad,  now THATS amuseing.. makes you wonder if thats illeagle. :P01:05
mwegerald-volt: ls -l will show what a symlink points to01:05
Malachiglobe_: That's it!01:05
globe_Malachi: to execute use ./<scriptName> from a term01:05
N6REJok, next part.... I have 2 files... "thumbs.db" and "desktop.ini" in each folder that I don't want.   if I rm -rf /home/music/*.ini will that do it?01:05
Malachiglobe_: So basically I create a text file and then do ./<script>?01:05
acadDr_Willis :) don't know but it'll make the industry think the music theft is increasing when it's not.01:05
Malachiglobe_: Ah, Thanks!01:06
globe_malachi: as far as I can remember.01:06
MalachiGotta go...01:06
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dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:06
D1does anyone here use flash for firefox and www.myspace.com?01:06
D1I can't get it to work.01:06
Dr_Willisjust imagine what would happen if there was a single week where 'everyone' aggred to not buy any new cd's :P or listen to the music on the radio01:06
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diemexhey how do i install skype on ubuntu?01:06
N6REJalpha255, your says set the sticky bit?01:06
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diemexpls answer me!01:07
Dr_Willisdieman,  its covered in the wiki/forums.01:07
globe_diemex: I know that there is information on this in the ubuntu wiki01:07
N6REJubotu tell dieman about !skype01:07
diemexthanks01:07
dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:07
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maseubotu tell me about !LIBSTDC++601:07
SepheebearN6REJ: glad you got it working, i had a umask brainfart for a sec there01:08
N6REJheheh kicked myself off01:08
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tripleclickI'm trying to install some wireless drivers. I've followed the Ndiswrapper instructions and ndiswrapper -l says bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present, but I don't see a wireless card in Ubuntu's Network settings. Can anyone help?01:08
maseubotu tell me about libstdc++601:08
masedamn bot doesnt know anything :squint:01:08
N6REJSepheebear, whats the best way to remove all those stupid thumbs.db files?01:08
ossieguys can anyone tell me tutorial for mp3 and dvd divx playback?01:08
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globe_tripleclick: have you tried using ifconfig / iwconfig?01:08
mjr!tell ossie about restrictedformats01:08
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tripleclickglobe_: It doesn't show up.01:09
ossiecheers mjr01:09
globe_tripleclick: even in iwconfig?01:09
tripleclickglobe_: Correct01:09
acadossie no tutorial needed- download libdvdcss and dpkg -i it01:09
tripleclickglobe_: Says "no wireless extensions." for lo, eth0, and sit001:09
acadossie thats for dvd-  for divx download all-codecs from mplayer01:10
N6REJtripleclick, did you reboot?01:10
globe_tripleclick: got me....you probably have to point ubuntu at the device01:10
dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:10
tripleclickN6REJ: Instructions didn't say to reboot. Are you sure I should?01:10
N6REJglobe no!  bcmw drivers are annonying but easy once you know them.01:10
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N6REJtripleclick, yep!01:10
N6REJtripleclick,  what have you done so far01:10
tripleclickN6REJ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2901:11
N6REJ<--- owns 4 broadcom cards01:11
diemexglobe : where it says cause i cna't find it01:11
philalou121channel ubuntu french?01:11
mwewhy would he need to reboot?01:11
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dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:11
acadossie wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb;dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb  <--- that should do it01:11
globe_diemex: I dont remember, sorry.  I would look it up but my ff is dead01:12
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tripleclickN6REJ: Up to "sudo ndiswrapper -m". Should I do anything before reboot?01:12
N6REJtripleclick, yeah, thats a good one.  theres about 6 of them in ubuntu one of which I wrote.  if you run iwconfig what do you see?01:12
j-linuxI am using Ubuntu Breezy.  I have JRE on my machine becuase I have Eclipse and it works.  But Firefox doesn't recognize that I have JRE and web sites that require Java aren't working.  Is this normal?  How do I enable it?01:12
tripleclickN6REJ: lo, eth0, and sit0 each with "no wireless extensions."01:12
SepheebearN6REJ: "find /home/music -name Thumbs.db | xargs rm -rf"01:12
acadossie download http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2 and extract it to /usr/lib/win3201:12
N6REJtripleclick, eth0?  ok... thats unusual but fine.01:13
diemexglobe_ : thanks anyway01:13
gerald-volthow do I run a .run file?01:13
N6REJtripleclick, run ndiswrapper -m now01:13
tripleclickN6REJ: eth0 is what I'm using right now01:13
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N6REJoh, wait.01:13
tripleclickN6REJ: Already did01:13
nterjlinux you need to add a symbolic link to the mozilla folder01:13
ossiecheers acad01:13
N6REJok.01:13
N6REJreboot.01:13
tripleclickOK01:13
acadossie :)01:13
j-linuxnter: how do I do that?01:13
N6REJSepheebear, ty01:14
nteron the firefox site where they explain what you have to do01:14
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j-linuxnter: ok thanks.01:14
dannyhey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.01:14
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nterif you do that it should work01:14
Sepheebeardanny: you want to setup an ftp server?01:15
jonohi all01:15
jonocan I install 2.6.15 on breezy from dapper?01:15
dannyright i have access to a ftp server01:15
N6REJtripleclick ok now when you run iwconfig what do you see?01:15
ntergo here jlinux http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java01:16
dannyi want to no how i can go into it on linux and add files etc.01:16
diemexplease can anybody say what do i have to do to install skype!!! prv01:16
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Sepheebeardanny: so you want to access an external ftp server from your linux machine?01:16
dannySepheebear, yes01:16
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j-linuxnter: thanks... I was having trouble finding it... :S01:16
Sepheebearfrom the command line you use "ftp user@server.com"01:17
N6REJdiemex,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%2901:17
tripleclickN6REJ: Same thing01:17
stark-johanI'm having some problems with apache. The only <Directory>-tag i have in my apache2.conf is one for "/" (it denies everything) but still anyone can use the website. I need one folder to be available only via htaccess so that's why I'm testing to deny all.01:17
Sepheebearor you can install a gui app like gftp01:17
acadubuntu is still so hard- :(  someone needs to write a handfull of scripts that automates install of multimedia components like streaming video (realplayer, mplayer-ng, flash, streaming audio (m3u), codecs, and commercial dvd support) then- it' be just about perfect01:17
ElBaronoanyone here have vpnc-fu?  For some reason the 'ip route' command it uses to set up my routes is not recognizing tun0 as a device, even though it appears in ifconfig and /proc/net/dev01:17
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kemik!tell acad about restricted01:17
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nterI had problem figuring that out too01:17
N6REJtripleclick, ok.  did you put BOTH the .sys file and the .inf file in the same folder when you did ndiswrapper -i ?01:17
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j-linuxIs there a reason that Ubuntu only has Java 1.4.2 and not 1.5?01:18
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j-linux(Breezy)01:18
kemikj-linux:  it's not SUN-java but some "free" java clone01:18
diemexn6rej thanks01:18
N6REJdieman, yw01:18
nteri think if you want to use 1.5 you have to get it from sun01:18
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j-linuxkemik: oh... so the computer doesn't have "Java" on it.01:18
kemikj-linux:  i think it has todo with sun java being restricted for re-distritbution01:19
j-linuxInteresting.01:19
tripleclickN6REJ: I put bcmwl5.sys in the same dir01:19
j-linuxo01:19
j-linuxoh01:19
N6REJtripleclick, what about the .inf?01:19
j-linuxI'll get 1.5 then...01:19
dereks_what does it mean if sbackup shows " [sbackupd]  <defunct>" when i do a backup? it properly creates the incremental stuff (like lists files and what not) just doesn't copy/backup the files01:19
kemik!tell j-linux about javadebs01:19
kemik!tell j-linux about java01:19
tripleclickN6REJ: Of course, bcmwl5.inf01:19
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j-linuxkemik: thanks.01:19
N6REJtripleclick, ok... I make no assumptions if I can help it.01:19
tripleclickN6REJ: OK01:19
N6REJok.  Which card exactly do you have?01:19
kemikdereks_:  <defunct> could be a childprocess without a faaather.. ie a zombie01:20
kemikor just something else went wrong ;)01:20
dereks_kemik: why does that happen? why it doesn't do the backup01:20
kemikdereks_:  no idea01:20
kemikdereks_:  tried google?01:20
tripleclick Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)01:20
gnu2it2any problems in upgrading from 5.1 to 5.10 ?01:20
dereks_kemik: yup :(01:20
N6REJtripleclick, is that a belkin F5d7001?01:21
kemikdereks_:  ok.. well icant help :/01:21
navaronedereks> jsut a thought...are you trying to place backups ina  directory that you have write access to?01:21
Sepheebeargnu2it2: there is no 5.1, hoary is 5.04 and breezy is 5.1001:21
tripleclickN6REJ: Uses the same chip, I guess01:21
jahshuai want to burn an image onto cd with my cd burner, can anyone help me out? the burner is plugged into my usb port but its not showing up on the desktop :(01:21
dereks_navarone: yeah01:21
j-linuxSynaptic shows that only 1.4 is available...01:21
Sepheebeargnu2it2: YMMV with upgrade issues01:21
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navaronedereks...then that was my only thought...lol :/01:22
N6REJtripleclick, yeah it does.  so its not belkin brand though.  Are you running 64bit ubuntu?01:22
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mjrjahshua, if you right click the image in nautilus and select writing to a cd, does it show the burner?01:22
dereks_navarone: thanks :)01:22
dereks_navarone: it runs as root01:22
nteryou can go to suns site to get 1.501:22
dannySepheebear, right i installed gftp now how do i get to it and use it01:22
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tripleclickN6REJ: It's in a Dell and is labeled a Broadcom on everything. Not 64-bit.01:22
Sepheebeardanny: applications -> internet -> gftp01:23
gnu2it2YMMV ?01:23
N6REJtripleclick, ok.. .just needed to be sure because you have to do things diff for 64bit.  Broadcom needs to be shot for that crappy card!  we need to punt.  let me get you a uri01:23
N6REJtripleclick, go here... follow it step by step... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+belkin01:24
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ElBaronoanyone know why 'ip route' can't find my tun0 device, even though it's showing up in ifconfig and /proc/net/dev?01:24
Sepheebeargnu2it2: your mileage may vary. i.e. you may have no issues upgrading or you may have some, it depends01:24
jrattner1Is there any way to know when software in the repositories will be upgraded? Specifially Network Manager01:24
N6REJtripleclick, after you've removed everything reboot01:24
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cirelohello01:24
nasasi just dist-upgrade and accepted everything01:25
nasashope my linux doesnt screw up01:25
jrattner1How can i make an installable package out of a tar.gz01:25
cirelothis is a nice version of linux01:25
Sepheebeardanny: i forgot but you can also use nautilus to connect to ftp servers as well01:25
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tripleclickHmm. It says Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules. Should that be?01:25
Gihi01:25
N6REJtripleclick, yep01:25
Sepheebeardanny: from Places -> Connect to server...01:25
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Gihello????01:25
Giis anyone there???01:26
kuraiahi Gi01:26
cirelohi gi01:26
N6REJtripleclick, lunch is ready... follow that and you should be fine.01:26
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relampago_hello01:27
relampago_how install Fluxbox in my Ubuntu ????01:28
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relampago_how install Fluxbox in my Ubuntu ????01:28
nasasapt-get install fluxbox01:28
nasasnow go play01:28
j-linuxWhere is a good location to install the Java SDK 1.5?01:29
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relampago_root@net1:~# apt-get install fluxbox01:29
relampago_Reading package lists... Done01:29
relampago_Building dependency tree... Done01:29
relampago_E: Couldn't find package fluxbox01:29
relampago_root@net1:~#01:29
relampago_:S01:29
j-linuxrelampago_: use synaptic01:29
coNPj-linux: where from or where to? :)01:29
Seveasrelampago_, do NOT paste in here01:29
relampago_sorry01:29
tripleclickI get a lot of "Permission denied" when doing this from the instructions.... for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do01:29
tripleclicksudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile01:29
tripleclickdone01:29
j-linuxcoNP: which directory -- I have it downloaded already.01:29
relampago_j-linux what it is ?01:29
PeteyPabloi never understood what was so bad about pasting01:30
coNPj-linux: use make-jpkg, java-package (multiverse)01:30
j-linuxrelampago_: go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic packagae manager01:30
j-linuxrelampago_: You can search for fluxbox, click to mark it for installation.  Then hit apply.  Easy01:30
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j-linuxcoNP: is that Java 1.5?  I didn't see it on the synaptic list.01:31
delmonico_hi. I'm searching for a very basic video editor. I want to have a simple image (just some text lines) as a 10 second MPEG....01:31
delmonico_any suggestions?01:31
coNPj-linux: java-package is a tool to generate a debian (ubuntu) package from sun jre-s / jdk-s01:32
jrattner1How can i make an installable package out of a tar ball01:32
relampago_i dont see fluxbox j-linux  :(01:32
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crimsunrelampago_: then enable universe.01:32
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Wammy!pastebin01:32
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:32
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j-linuxrelampago_: It might not be in the regular repositories... Check Universe.  In synaptic, click on the Settings menu.  Choose add repositories.  Then add Universe.  Reload the list.  Search for fluxbox.  I see it on mine.01:33
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j-linuxcoNP: is that necessary?  I already downloaded the .bin from Java.  It says I should just run it to install in any directory that I want.  I just don't know which directory is best.01:33
nekostarhappy new years guys! im gonna be in san fransiscoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo01:34
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coNPj-linux: not necessary, but I would recommand to do so not to mess your filesystem01:34
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coNPj-linux: you might install to /usr/local/<somewhere> or /opt/<somewhere> depending on the free disk space01:34
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j-linuxcoNP: I have 40 GB free... :S  I'm searching synaptic and found "java-package 0.26"01:35
j-linuxis that it?01:35
coNPj-linux: sure01:35
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coNPj-linux: I thought you might have separate partitions for /usr or /usr/local or so01:36
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darkbutterflyhi01:36
darkbutterflyhow is everyone?01:36
j-linuxcoNP: no... I'm not that advanced yet and had enough problems getting Linux installed just to one partition.01:36
GiI again01:36
aquariusI've got a machine where the breezy install CD doesn't work; I get segfaults after booting it and before I get to the first menu. It seems to be busybox that's segfaulting (it does the same with a Knoppix CD). What might be wrong?01:36
GiI'm fine01:36
j-linuxcoNP: so if it is just one partition, I can just use the Sun .bin?01:36
GiI'm looking for some good programs01:37
Gimaybe someone can help me01:37
globehow do I tell xwin to look for the nameservers in resolv.conf?01:37
j-linuxGi: what kinds of programs?01:37
coNPj-linux: yes, if you really want to :)01:37
Giwich is the best program for recording DVDs?01:37
coNPj-linux: java-package makes it easier to upgrade / remove stuff01:37
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captain-petzhey guys can any1 tell me how to update my java runtime?01:37
GiI also need a good one to listen and to edit music01:37
captain-petzlike with apt-get01:37
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coNPcaptain-petz: how did you install it?01:38
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ZambbaGi: for listening amaroK is a good pick01:38
j-linuxcoNP:  ok... I'll try it.01:38
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Gihow do I get it?01:38
captain-petzcomp, can't member01:38
captain-petzdidn't do it01:38
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coNPcaptain-petz: okay, do you have any java packages installed (check with synaptic)01:38
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erUSUL!java01:38
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:38
GiI'm sorry, I'm just totally new here01:39
erUSUL!javadebs01:39
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy01:39
Gimaybe you guys can help me01:39
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GiI just started using linux01:39
coNPGi: what do you want to get?01:39
ZambbaGi: you can install almost any piece of software using apt-get or its GUIs (Synaptic, Adept)01:39
j-linuxGi: follow the menus: System --> Adminstration --> Synaptic package manager.01:39
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GeorgesAhi everyone01:39
Gisome programs for music and recording01:39
captain-petzapt-get what would that be then?01:39
j-linuxGi: Then search for Amarok.  Mark the checkbox and click "apply".  You will then have Amarok.01:40
delmonico_Gi: if you have a music collection with good ID3-Tags (i.e. Artits, Title, etc. tags) amarok is what you want...01:40
GeorgesAcould someone help me ? I'm looking for an ubuntu-command01:40
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Gibut I can't manage to use it01:40
rowaryeah amarok is the best aplication01:40
j-linuxGi: you can browse thousands of programs with Synaptic and download them with a few clicks.01:40
delmonico_Gi: for editing sounds, there is plenty of applications... simple cutting can be done with audacity, but there are also a lot of applications if you want to create sounds...01:40
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rowaryou can use automatix is the best for ubuntu beginners ^^01:41
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ITSa341http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy  not available, bandwidth exceeded01:41
ThunderguyHey, I was gonna compile that new Firefox 1.5, so first I have to remove Firefox right? but when I go to remove firefox it tells me that it will also have to remove ubuntu-desktop because of the dependencies ?!?!01:41
ITSa341grrr01:41
relampago_j-linux done. how start fluxbox ?01:41
Githanks to the tips, guys01:41
captain-petzwhats gcj?01:41
j-linuxrelampago_: log off.  Then log back in, using somehting like the "session" menu (under the login box)01:42
GeorgesAI'm trying to install Warcraft III with wine, to do so I have to mount the cdrom as said there http://nuxsrv.free.fr/war3-tutorial-fr/tutorial_wine_et_warcraft_3.htm (in french, sorry)01:42
relampago_oks, let's see01:42
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ITSa341rowar, automatix hosed my ubuntu install yesterday. Couldn't boot after running it.01:42
AthameHello all, I have a complete newbie question. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 x86 on a dual-boot with xp pro sp2. Running a Radeon x600 pro 256 vid card, Intel pent 4 cpu 3.2 ghz. I get to the upscreen and the system freezes, can't get past that in regular, recovery, or on the live cd. Only other thing is I'm running dual monitors with desktop extended in xp. Any ideas why or how to fix it?01:42
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j-linuxrelampago_: If you are just trying out different windows managers, try XFCE... It's great.01:42
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erUSULThunderguy, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package no harm in removing it01:42
yatesyyea i've just been trying that :)01:42
rowardo use the wrong version?01:42
kuraiahi all01:42
rowarhi01:43
Gihow do I run a private conversation here?01:43
tripleclickHow do I prevent the need to type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" ever time I boot up to get my wireless card turned on?01:43
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ITSa341nope, used the ubuntu version, and I'm using ubuntu 5.1001:43
kuraiawhen i type sudo in ubuntu i get this message / user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.01:43
globeHow do I get my computer to use dns?01:43
Zambbatripleclick: add ndiswrapper to text file called /etc/modules01:43
erUSULtripleclick, add ndiswrapper to the en of /etc/modules01:43
kuraiavi /etc/resolv.conf globe01:43
erUSULend*01:43
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ThunderguyerUSUL: Right, but say if I ever do want to remove ubuntu-desktop, is there a problem if the meta-package is already gone?01:44
kuraiaglobe write your dns in /etc/resolv.conf01:44
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ITSa341rowar, I did reinstall and ran automatix successfully today. :-)01:44
rowaroh ok01:45
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rowarits very solid...01:45
ITSa341but, lost my AOL during the reinstall  :-(01:45
erUSULThunderguy, i can not know for sure maybe when you upgrtade to dapper. chec the wiki there is how to to install ff 1.501:45
rowaraol?01:45
Gigosh01:45
ITSa341I run AOL01:45
rowarah AOL ^^01:45
Thunderguyoh ok, thanks01:45
globekuraia: the dns info is in there...it was put there when I dhclient my wireless card01:45
captain-petzthanks everybody, but I'm going to bed now. it's almost 2am. have a nice one01:45
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  I use to work for AOL and I dont really recomend it for anyone01:45
rowarITSa341 do you use an dile in?01:46
ThunderguyHappy Holidays to you as well Lilo01:46
rowarthe same in germany but ist called t-offline hh t-online01:46
ITSa341Inf3ctedFx   I still do beta testing for them and I must say if you haven't tried the latest version I agree with you.01:46
ITSa341rowar:  I'm on dsl01:46
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globekuraia: is there some way that I have to point my apps at that file?01:47
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  there is another version coming up calls Coplant01:47
rowarme too dsl 600001:47
Inf3ctedFxAOL Coplant01:47
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ITSa341rowar  I mainly use AOL for a specific chatroom where some friends of mine do tech support and just hang out.01:47
kuraiaglobe, what application do you want to point that file?01:48
Inf3ctedFxAOL Sec/Edit has errors with the ACS01:48
rowaroh tech support fpr AOL?01:48
Inf3ctedFxit will give u head aches on the connection01:48
rowar*dor01:48
rowar*for01:48
kalinhow can i add a plug-in to mozilla if i'm not authorization to modify it???01:49
ITSa341Inf3ctedFx: Have you tried the latest version of 9.0 security?  One interface for Anti-virus, Anti-Spyware, Anti-phishing, Anti-Pharming, Firewall, Money alerts etc etc01:49
kalinauthorized i mean01:49
globekuraia: most programs dont seem to want to use the dns at all.  but telnet, ping ect work from the term01:49
kalindoes anybody have an idea?01:49
ITSa341rowar  tech support for Windows, mac, linux, aol or just about anything else including vhs, dvd, camera etc01:49
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  I use to be tech support on aol.. of course I'll tryed but the Safety and Security Center is still mess up xD01:49
kuraiaglobe, if you edit resolv.conf01:50
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kuraiathe applications point to that file01:50
ITSa341Inf3cted  unless you tried it in the last 2 weeks it is a new system01:50
Wammyanyone willing to help me find out why a driver wont compile? output is at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639701:50
ITSa341I hated the old version01:50
rowarkalin: start mozilla out of the terminal use the comand sudo before ue use the start command for mozilla01:50
ITSa341can't run 9.0 in ubuntu anyway01:51
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ITSa341yet.......01:51
rowarkalin: the you have root privilegs01:51
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  safety and Security Center is a new system that aol install.. but if u want just the Mcafee go to "install.av.aol.com"01:51
ITSa341<-- never gives up01:51
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erUSULkalin, add the plugin to your ~/.mozilla/..ff../plugins01:51
kalinso u mean <sudo start mozilla?>01:51
globekuraia, my name servers are in there already though01:51
ITSa341Inf3tedFx  I go to beta and install from there01:51
DelvienHey guys, im trying to install Dapper, but i get this error " KERNAL PANIC -NOT SYNCING :VFS: UNABLE TO MOUNT UNKOWN BLOCK (1,0) can anyone help a brother out?01:52
ITSa341and like I said, I use ALL those components from one interface01:52
rowarexample for firefox: sudo firefox01:52
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Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  i do not recommend go to beta.. because if u start getting problems with it.. Tech Support wont support it.. cuz is a beta version01:52
Delvienis nalioth or seveas here ? any other experienced linux pro here ?01:53
rowardo you have an icon for mozilla? make an right klick go to propertis and read the text in the comand box01:53
ITSa341Inf3tedFx  that's 1/2 the fun with beta testing. Finding and figuring workarounds for the bugs  :-)01:53
rowarif type it in the terminal it will also start mozilla01:53
Inf3ctedFxnot right now Delvien01:53
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Delvien:(01:53
naliothDelvien: just ask your question to the channel, there are many folks here01:53
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Delvieni did01:53
Delvienhehe :)01:53
Inf3ctedFxoks ITSa341  good luck with it xD01:53
Delviennalioth but you are so smart :)01:53
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bobbycan someone direct me to url that gives step by step in configuring tar.bz file to install onto ubuntu01:54
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naliothDelvien: you answer: don't install dapper using todays image01:54
lampshade!ubotu tell lampshade about enlightenment01:54
rowarkalin: have xou found the comand?01:54
ITSa341Inf3ctedFx  I wish I could get some version newer than 4.0 to fully work in ubuntu01:54
Inf3ctedFxbobby:  tar jxfv file.tar.bz201:54
Delviennalioth o.. umm it worked in vmware just fine01:54
bobbythat will decompres but I need to install01:54
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  try 8.001:54
naliothDelvien: vmware is not actual hardware01:54
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  r u using Wine?01:54
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Delviennalioth i think it is saying VFS (vfat system ) i think, because sda1 is NTFS01:55
ITSa341Inf3ctedFx  it installs but won't launch01:55
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graftbobby - install what, where?01:55
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  it wont?01:55
ITSa341I tried it with wine and with crossover office 5.001:55
globewhats another command simmilar to chmod?01:55
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Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  do u want to go to a tech chatroom?01:55
bobbythere are two apps I want to try to install gruler and colorscheme01:55
graftchown?01:55
ITSa341it just hangs during launch01:55
bobbyno deb file01:55
toydiHi, I really new to Linux platform. I just installed Ubuntu and my resolution stuck at 640x480. I'm using VIA/S3 UniChrome IGP on-board display card. How to fix the resolution?01:55
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ITSa341Not at the moment but if you have one you recommend I would love to bookmark it01:56
graftbobby, so you're compiling from source?01:56
globegraft: is there one that has two i's in it?01:56
bobbyyes01:56
Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  all tech support has they own chatroom is not really open to the regular users  next time try #Head_of_the_class01:56
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erUSUL!tell toydi about fixres01:56
graftglobe - uh... what? hrm01:56
timmy_Hi all01:56
ITSa341Inf3ctedFx   thanks, I will01:56
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Delviennalioth thanks bro ill try somemore things before i install01:56
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Inf3ctedFxITSa341:  but don't say anything about me xD they know me01:56
bobbyI did the tar -xvf to decompress01:56
Delviennalioth gotta find a way to edit partition table without booting to an OS01:56
globegraft: a file attribute changer (like chmod) but has two i's in it.01:56
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bobbythen make but it says no make file01:57
ITSa341ok01:57
bobbyno then./configure01:57
Delviennalioth i want to get rid of windows all together01:57
bobbythen make01:57
Inf3ctedFxbobby:  did u tried tar jxfv?01:57
j-linuxWhat do people think about automatix?01:57
bobbybut no make file01:57
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graftglobe: is this like a trivia question or something?01:57
cello_rasphi.. i have been given an ipod shuffle for christmas. is there any way i can put music on it with ubuntu?01:57
rowari love it ^^01:57
toydiubotu, i'm reading FixVideoResolutionHOWTO now. Just a question, how to know i am using either X11 or XFree86?01:57
ubotutoydi: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:57
rowar<--- love automatix01:57
bobbyno xvf not jxvf01:57
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globegraft: no I am trying to remember a command01:57
Inf3ctedFxmmm01:57
Kyralrowar: don't express that sentiment01:57
bobbyautomatix rules01:57
Kyralrowar: EasyUbuntu is...fixing it01:58
kuraiahi i need help01:58
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timmy_I just got my ubuntu up and running, first time linux user01:58
Gihello01:58
Malachiglobe: Thanks for your help with the scripts!01:58
bobbygreaet timmy01:58
sally_what package do I install to be able to view a list of wireless networks that I can connect to and then pick one and connect to it?  gui, not iwlist01:58
timmy_not too difficult yet!01:58
crimsunwifi-radar01:58
timmy_haha01:58
globemalachi: n/p glad it worked01:58
Malachiglobe: One question though.01:58
graftcan't help you, globe... what are you trying to achieve?01:58
erUSULtoydi, you are using xorg01:58
rowareasyubuntu? why not ubuntu?01:58
Malachiglobe: What about comments?01:58
toydierUSUL, ok thanks!01:58
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kuraiawhen I type sudo command i get this message user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.01:59
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kuraiacan anybody help me?01:59
erUSUL!easyubuntu01:59
ubotuhmm... easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu01:59
|Lestat|Can anyone tell me why i cant seem to transfer more than 700kB/s in linux?01:59
Kyraltimmy_: perhaps you would enjoy learning about the commandline?01:59
globemalachi: I dont remember.  probably google that one "comments in linux scripts" or something01:59
Giargh01:59
GiI still need help as well01:59
Gihehe01:59
graftkuraia, no one can help you now... th e police are coming for you!01:59
Inf3ctedFxkuraia: what r u trying to run?01:59
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globekuraia: ask your question....01:59
Malachiglobe: Mm. Can't believe I forgot to Google first.01:59
rowarist hte an download link for easyubuntu?01:59
Inf3ctedFxgraft:  hahaha01:59
kuraiawhen I type sudo command, i get this message user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.01:59
Inf3ctedFxkuraia:  what r u trying to run?02:00
timmy_Kyral, I am playing around with that now.  Everything I do with the GUI I try and figure out the command line equivalent02:00
graftkuraia, you better put that user in sudoers02:00
ComradeVladimiranyone use m trip?02:00
Giwell02:00
bobbythere is no jxfv02:00
kuraiagraft, that user is putted in sudoeres02:00
toydiafter CTRL-ATL-BACKSPACE to restart X, I always back to console mode, how to switch back GUI? I tried Alt+F7 but nothing happen?02:00
Kyraltimmy_: I wrote a quite good (if I may say so) turotial on the Command line in the Forums02:00
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Kyraltimmy_: If you would like I could dig up the link02:00
globekuraia:your not using root ru?02:00
Inf3ctedFxbobby:  I always use the tar jxfv to unzip the bz202:00
timmy_that would be awesome!02:00
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bobbyunder man page for tar there is no j02:01
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kuraiaglobe i'm nost using root02:01
ITSa341bbiab02:01
graftbobby, you've got a really old version of tar, then02:01
bobbybut unzipping is not the problem it is compiling and installing the file02:01
Inf3ctedFxI think so02:01
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bobbyI just ireinstalled ubuntu 5.10 to day02:01
AthameHello all, I have a complete newbie question. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 x86 on a dual-boot with xp pro sp2. Running a Radeon x600 pro 256 vid card, Intel pent 4 cpu 3.2 ghz. I get to the upscreen and the system freezes, can't get past that in regular, recovery, or on the live cd. Only other thing is I'm running dual monitors with desktop extended in xp. Any ideas why or how to fix it?02:01
Kyraltimmy_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7388502:02
globeathame: is your video card listed on ubuntu.org supported hardware?02:02
|Lestat|Can anyone tell me why i cant seem to transfer more than 700kB/s in linux?02:02
Inf3ctedFxAthame: yesterday was a guy with the same problem02:02
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bobbyas I said the unzipping is not my problem it is compiling andinstalling is there a url with step by step for this02:02
Inf3ctedFxAthame:  let me show u a website it might help02:02
Athamecool02:03
_badabing_hey there, i'm running Mac OS X on my humble mac mini, i'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 WITHOUT having to remove and re-partition my HDD... does anyone have a solution, please?02:03
graftbobby, read the INSTALL file that came with the program02:03
timmy_Thanks again, off to another tutorial!  This is fun.02:03
pl_icehey everyone :)02:03
Inf3ctedFxAthame:  use this one even if is for gentoo --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors02:03
bobbyI did and did what it said yet wafter I do the ./compile I do the make and it sayd no make file02:03
Inf3ctedFxit works for me pretty good Athame02:03
bobby./configure02:03
AthameInf3ctedfx - I was on this morning and asked that, they said to try x86 I did and same thing is that what you're thinking of?02:04
erUSULbobby, is ./configure02:04
rowarcu all untill tomorrow02:04
grafterr... kuraia, still around?02:04
bobbyright but after that I do the make and it says ther is no make file02:04
kuraiayes graft02:04
grafthow complex is your sudoers file?02:04
Inf3ctedFxAthame:  can be the module on the kernel for the video card driver02:04
KyralI should really write up something on basic Bash Scripting02:04
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kuraiagraft it's simple02:04
Inf3ctedFxAthame:  chekc that website i gave u.. it might help02:05
erUSULbobby, has the configure show no errors?02:05
kuraiagraft i give it to you02:05
Athamecool will do looking at it now, ty02:05
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timmy_Kyral, that link is going to come in very hand, thanks a lot!02:06
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Kyraltimmy_: check for updates..like when I get bored lol02:06
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graftkuraia what does `hostname` say?02:06
timmy_I will, already bookmarked that one!  Very handy02:07
kuraiagraft i don't understand you02:07
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casahola02:07
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graftwhen you run the command 'hostname', what does it say?02:07
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fredforfaendoes anybody here know how to enable true transparency in breezy?02:08
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KyralCarefully02:08
kuraiagraft ubuntu02:08
graftand is there a Host_Alias line in your sudoers file?02:08
kuraiayes graft it is02:08
kuraiabut the name is birmingham02:09
kuraiaXD02:09
kuraiathanks02:09
timmy_Kyral, thanks for the link.  I will stop by now and again.  Time to wash the dog.  Bye all02:09
timmy_:)02:09
kalinhow can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not able to modify it?02:09
graftwell, there you go, then02:09
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waseemCannot configure the keyboard to Swedish02:10
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fredforfaenanyone?02:10
tripleclickOn https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29 it says to do "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" but that command gives me errors. Does that command look right?02:10
graftah... i do!02:11
graftwhat are you running?02:11
graftand what video card have you got?02:11
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tripleclickgraft: Not talking to me are you?02:12
graftno, fredforfaen02:12
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waseemI am running Ubuntu/Breezy02:13
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waseemHello somebody!02:14
Haukkarieek02:14
waseemmiaow02:15
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graftwaseem, why can't you configure the keyboard to swedish?02:15
graftat what level are you trying to do this?02:15
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waseemI dont know I tick mark it at the right place but no result02:15
graftwhat is "the right place"?02:16
erUSULtripleclick, i can not see that comand in the page read again02:16
waseemin preferences02:16
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waseemsystems/preferences/keyboards/layouts02:17
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graftyou're running gnome?02:17
Hobbseewith firefox 1.5 (i think this occured in 1.0.7 as well), how do you get it to open in full screen mode?02:17
Hobbseei'm running kde02:17
waseemyeah02:18
waseemgnome02:18
riffichello.. so it looks like I just dist-upgraded to dapper and the 2.6.15 kernels got pulled from the pool02:18
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grafthrm... can't help you much there, don't know gnome02:18
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rifficwill it be safe to reboot on a breezy kernel ?02:18
pilgrimHi all. I want to compile my kernel so I apt-got kernel-package , what else do I need ?02:19
BraveFencerKirbyCan someone help me?  I'm trying to load Ubuntu onto an older computer and it runs from the install CD I burned fine but then it fails partway through.  Says the failing step is "load installer components from CD".02:19
waseemNever done it before. Started using Ubuntu 2 days back. Teething problems.02:19
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riffictry burning another cd?02:19
waseem a real newbie02:19
rifficit could possibly be a bad cd-rom02:20
BraveFencerKirbyTryed redownloading the image and burning a new CD from THAT.  Same problem.02:20
SturgeonBraveFencerKirby: either your cd is broken or your cd-reader is broken02:20
rifficprobably the latter02:20
SturgeonI had that problem because my cd reader was malfunctioning02:20
kalinhow can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not authorized to write into it?02:20
graftriffic, don't see why it would be a problem...02:20
rifficoh wow unregged chat02:20
BraveFencerKirbyThat's no fun at all.02:20
Sturgeonbut I was able to install it anyway02:20
rifficbrb02:20
BraveFencerKirbyOn sec, I'm going to try something.02:20
regeya_ok rock on.02:21
SturgeonJust tried again and again until it worked.02:21
gnu2it2anyone running dapper?02:21
kalini'm sure there is somebody who knows the aolution ;)02:21
MalachiDidn't know it was out.02:21
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SturgeonWhen I download new packages (say games) that don't appear in the "applications" menus, how am I supposed to find them?02:22
waseemStupid question. Can I install Suse at the place where I have Ubuntu now.02:22
kalincome on people i need ur great knowledge02:22
SturgeonOk, I find the command to run them, but the rest of the files02:22
erUSULwaseem, yes02:22
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rifficSturgeon: $ which <name>02:22
waseemGood. Sound promising02:22
Hobbseegnu2it2: yes, some people02:22
Cerberushello, i need some help pwith GPated02:22
CerberusGrparted*02:23
BraveFencerKirbyCrap.  I tried running it from my other drive (the comp's got two CD drives) and it just ignored the thing completely and booted up in Windows.02:23
waseemIs it simply to put the CD in and Voila!02:23
kalinhow can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not allowed to modify it?02:23
graftBraveFencerKirby, make sure you can boot from both drives...02:23
graftcheck your bios boot config02:23
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graftkalin, put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/02:24
Cerberusi need some hekp repartitioning my NTFS drive, any takers?02:24
kalinbut i'm not the administrato!02:24
pashawkalin,  sudo02:25
BraveFencerKirbyIt's also giving me some weird error about PCI slots, which it wasn't before...02:25
kalini can't02:25
graftdoesn't matter02:25
graftyou have full rights to ~/.mozilla/plugins02:25
graftit's in your home directory02:25
kalinhow can i use sudo?02:25
graftBraveFencerKirby... the system is down, yo02:25
graftkalin, forget sudo02:25
kalinwhat does it do?02:25
graftinstall it locally... it's better that way02:25
kalinokok forgetting sudo02:26
graftthat way you won't have ot reinstall plugins every time you upgrade mozilla02:26
pashawkalin,   graft says its in your user home02:26
kalin;)02:26
BraveFencerKirbyIt'll boot normally, I just can't get Ubuntu to install.02:26
Cerberuscan you give me some GParted help02:26
kalinthe plug is in m,y desktop02:26
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pashawCerberus,   whats the problem?02:26
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Cerberusi am trying to resize my NTFS partition02:27
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Cerberusso that i can install ubuntu02:27
CentHOGGCerberbus: gparted partitions aren't seen in XP02:27
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kalinhey! mozilla is not in my home directory!02:27
pashawCerberus,   ok tou made backups  before starting   then used gparted02:27
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kalinmozilla is within usr/lib02:28
Cerberusya, what are the approx. chances of GParted screwing up my NTFS drive?02:28
graftyeah, but .mozilla is in your home dir02:28
pashawCerberus,  backups right?   as your risking the loss of the entire ntfs partition so you know02:28
BraveFencerKirbyResource Conflict - PCI in slot 01 Bus: 01, Device:0E, Function:0002:28
BraveFencerKirbyThat mean anything to anyone?02:28
pashawCerberus,   i dont gamble   hate losing02:28
Cerberusyeah, that is why i am wary02:28
Cerberusof resizing02:29
pashawCerberus,   so backups  first02:29
CentHOGGpartition magic02:29
Cerberuspartition magic costs $ :/02:29
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Cerberusand GParted seems to be an equal02:29
CentHOGGCerberbus: gparted partitions aren't seen in XP02:30
kalinmmm nop mozilla is within USR which is at the same level of HOME02:30
pashawCentHOGG, that doesnt make sense02:30
Cerberuswhy not, shouldnt XP see NTFS no matter where it is made from02:30
globeiwconfig02:30
pl_icehey, wish ya all, all the best in New Years !! party hard like a animal :)02:30
CentHOGGgparted does NTFS....02:30
Cerberusyeah02:30
Cerberusit says it can do all but copy for NTFS02:31
CentHOGGi concur with pashaw02:31
graftkalin... type ls .mozilla from within your home dir.02:31
CentHOGGnever gamble on something valueable02:31
pashawCerberus,   last time i used knoppix  with qtparted02:31
CentHOGGtoo lose02:31
kalin??? in the terminal?02:32
graftyeah02:32
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pashawkalin,   type  cd ~ <enter>    then  type   ls -al  youll see your .mozilla   as graft said02:32
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graftalso, you should clearly read "man intro"02:33
andresnecesito ayuda :D02:33
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pashaw!es02:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:34
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pashawandres,   wrong language02:34
pashawandres, ??  sorry if i guess wrong02:35
kalinit appeared this: appreg firefox mozver.dat pluginreg.dat plugins02:35
BraveFencerKirbyHey, can someone tell me how to verify the ISO file that I downloaded?  I saw something about that on the wiki but it didn't make any damn sense to me.02:35
kalinwith firefox and plugins in blue text02:36
pashawkalin,  you just listed your .mozilla folder in user home02:36
pashawkalin,   so its there02:36
graftkalin what plugin are you trying to install?02:36
kalinso now i can modify it?02:36
kalinlibflashplayer.so02:36
graftah02:36
intelikeyBraveFencerKirby check the md5 sum ?02:37
graftyeah just do : cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/02:37
BraveFencerKirbyYeah, about that.  WTF does that mean?  ~_~02:37
pashawBraveFencerKirby,   did you use bittorrent or  http/ftp download?02:37
BraveFencerKirbyI downloaded it off one of the mirrors.02:37
graftalthough actually02:37
graftflash should have its own installer script02:37
pashaw!tell BraveFencerKirby about md502:37
intelikeyBraveFencerKirby if you have burned it to cd  boot the  cd  to expert mode and run the cd testing app that is listed in the menu02:38
BraveFencerKirbyPashaw, looked at that.  All Greek to me.02:38
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pashawBraveFencerKirby,   lol  follow intelikey's advice02:38
BraveFencerKirbyWorking on that02:39
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kalincan't do 'stat' over "libflashplayer.so"02:39
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kalinthe file o dir doesn't exist02:39
wizardjameshow do i add themes to limewire?02:39
graftwell cd to whatever directory it's in first02:40
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raymondHOW DI I INSTALL LIMEWIRE02:40
BraveFencerKirbyFirst, turn off capslock02:40
raymondsry02:40
BraveFencerKirbySecond...  ask someone else.  I'm clueless.02:40
odathello everyone02:40
graftSecond, use gtk-gnutella... limewire blows02:40
intelikeyshoot  high  and  shoot  low,  maybe  if  you  knock  their  hat  off  with  the  first  shot  they  will  dance  for  the  second.   :)02:40
wizardjameshttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2511334  < is how to install it..02:40
graftneedlessly hogs system resources02:40
pashaw!tell raymond about limewire02:41
wizardjamesok..i will try that02:41
odatanyone know if what systems tools i may be able to use to track down problems with a system that is running slow aka Norton Utilities?02:41
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pashawodat,    top02:41
graftodat - 'top'02:41
wizardjameswere do i get gtk-gnutella graft02:42
graftit's in the ubuntu repos02:42
odatgraft, top?02:42
graftodat - just run 'top' in the shell02:42
pashawodat,   top will tell you whats running and what resources its using02:42
BraveFencerKirbyCrap.02:42
D1hmm, are there any Limewire debs out there besides ubuntu guide's install?02:42
D1!limewire02:42
ubotuhmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.02:42
BraveFencerKirbydid the "check CD-ROM integrity" thing and it failed instantly.02:42
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relampagohello :O02:43
CentHOGGola02:43
grafthaha02:43
relampago:p02:43
graftwell, at least your cd-rom drive isn't busted02:43
odatgraft, k thats cool but is there any software that fixes problems with the system?02:43
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pashawBraveFencerKirby,   new download needed then02:43
graftum... what sort of problems?02:43
BraveFencerKirbyI already tried that, though.02:43
intelikeyBraveFencerKirby that's not good !02:43
relampagoi try ./configure and the error is: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:44
pashawodat,   yep you02:44
grafthow did you download it, BraveFencerKirby?02:44
odatgraft, it seems this computer gets slower and slower and always system to have trouble with the file system02:44
relampagohow fix it?02:44
relampago:S02:44
BraveFencerKirbyOff one of the mirrors.02:44
odatpashaw, ?02:44
graftodat, that really depends on what you're running on it02:44
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odatgraft, how so?02:44
relampagoi try ./configure and the error is: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:44
CentHOGGrelampago: how did you install the compiler?02:45
intelikeyBraveFencerKirby you did get the one that is made for your architecture ?02:45
relampagoCentHOGG apt-get install gcc02:45
graftwell, if you're running some program that hogs memory and CPU time, it'll obviously get slower02:45
pashawrelampago,   spamming gets you ignored    try and wait at least a few mins between asking02:45
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CentHOGGhold on02:45
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BraveFencerKirbyIntel: yeah, I'm using the intel one.02:45
graftno, BraveFencerKirby, i mean what program did you use to download the image?02:45
relampagopashaw, ?02:46
BraveFencerKirbyProgram?  Uh, IE?02:46
graftoh... um02:46
kalingraft, well i'll try later i'm hungry now02:46
graftand you don't know how to check the md5?02:46
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graftoh... sorry, kalin, thought you were gone02:46
BraveFencerKirbyNope.02:46
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odatgraft, ?02:47
relampagoCentHOGG ??02:47
graftodat... what do you use your computer for, normally?02:47
CentHOGGrelampago:  go here and read this http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=current#202:47
relampagook :/02:48
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odatgraft, this computer in particular is used mostly for browsing the web and music stuff02:48
grafthey BraveFencerKirby, check out fastsum.com02:48
graftyou can check md5s with that...02:48
pashawodat,    how much RAM does it have?02:49
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pashawodat,    type in a terminal      free    and tell us the total/ used /and free02:50
odatpashaw, i have 776552 in total memory and about half of that is being used02:51
intelikeypashaw you do know that free is very inacurate about the actual used/free  amounts don't you ?02:51
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pashawintelikey,   yes but he  never answered my first question so needed somewhere to start  total is correct tho02:51
grafthmm... with that much memory probably swapping is not her problem02:51
relampagoCentHOGG, http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=current#202:51
relampagoups02:51
relampagoCentHOGG, ln: gcc: El fichero existe02:51
intelikeytotal is correct minus the kernels 4m +/-02:52
CentHOGGbrb02:52
pashawodat,   looking at free again how does your swap look   size and used02:52
pashawintelikey, now your nit picking  :P02:53
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odatpashaw, swap is 2273156     0 being used02:53
intelikeythey hatch into lice02:53
BraveFencerKirbyWhat the hell?  My computer is finding new hardware where there is none.02:54
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pashawodat,   your good there  as it is then     how long til the slow down starts?   3 hours?    what programs are running when it starts?02:54
pashawBraveFencerKirby,    burn it   its a witch!02:54
jeorihow can you find out which directory a program is installed to?02:54
Kyralwhich <command>02:55
pashawjeori,    locate  <name>02:55
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intelikeyi'd say with the 700m of ram he described he's good on mem piriod.  with or without swap.02:55
jeorithanks02:55
pashawintelikey,   agreed  but had to check he even had swap enabled02:56
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odatpashaw, the whole system is slower than it used to be    start ups are slower and each time it does the manual check after 30 start ups there are file system problems that need to be fixed  it appears the file system and the hard drive don't like eachother very much02:56
intelikeypashaw why ?02:56
pashawintelikey, if he fills the 700  bad things happen with no swap02:56
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intelikeypashaw i don't have swap and only 64m  of ram.   what is his error ?02:56
pashawintelikey,   i have 2G in my home machine its runs a steady 12mb swap02:56
TraceGreenHello, can ubuntu install on a pc whose memory just 64M?02:57
KyralTraceGreen: it would be close02:57
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pashawTraceGreen,   do a server install and  sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop  for GUI02:57
ProTeus4hello all, I am running Ubuntu breezy, and have a situation where my system root drive is only 4 gig, and I am running out of space. I have a second drive 36 gig, I would like to use a partition from it for my var/cache/ directory. woudl that be difficult?02:57
odatTraceGreen, if you do choose xubuntu02:57
Kyralor Fluxbox...02:57
TraceGreenxubuntu?02:57
pashawTraceGreen,    oops  apt-get install   < missed that02:57
SeveasProTeus4, no, just mount it as /var/cache :)02:57
intelikeyTraceGreen you'd want to install server   the gui is a bit heavy for 64m  but it can run.02:58
BraveFencerKirbygraft - excuse me if I sound like a n00b, but how the hell do you use this fastsum program thingie?02:58
pashawTraceGreen,   yes its much smaller than gnoem or KDE02:58
odatTraceGreen, its a lightweight desktop eviroment02:58
TraceGreenok , i will have a try.02:58
KyralI think 64M is cutting it close for even XFCE02:58
ProTeus4Seveas: any specail fstab mounting methods, or commands - or should I just match the / settings?02:58
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KyralTraceGreen: I think you'd be better with Damn Small Linux02:58
pashawKyral,   kinda he only beginner choice tho02:58
relampago checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:58
TraceGreeni want to run gimp actually02:58
relampagohow fix this02:58
relampago?02:58
lampshadeWhat command is used in .xsession with exec to launch XFCE?02:59
KyralTraceGreen: Then no way...02:59
SeveasProTeus4, well, use the filesystemtype you put on the drive02:59
Seveas!tell relampago about compiling02:59
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Linfanhow come my computer usage on ubuntu goes from 5% to 88% every other second? im not getting a stable usage02:59
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Linfananyway to correct this02:59
odatTraceGreen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu02:59
TraceGreenKyral, do you mean i can't run gimp on 64Mmemory?02:59
ProTeus4Sevas: I can match the root drive ext3 I think thanks much02:59
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TraceGreenodat, thanks.02:59
relampago:/03:00
odattr np03:00
najahhey guyz im having a problem im new to linux and i have just installed ubuntu on my laptop and cant get my wifi to work03:00
pashawodat,    what your describing now  can be a dozen things03:00
KyralTraceGreen: The GIMP at what I think you want to do (Photoshop level stuff) would break...03:00
Kyralor like take forever03:00
intelikeyTraceGreen you won't get any satisfaction out of running ubunut and gimp on a box with 64m ram   it can be done but it will be into swap all the time...... bad idea.03:00
odatpashaw, well i would like to know where to start03:00
CentHOGGGIMP and photoshop in the same sentence.... ROTFL03:00
graftnajah... oh man, there's a big headache03:01
pashawodat,   bad cable  causing drive corruption    error in the IDE module your running      config error   bad shutdowns03:01
najahfor real03:01
intelikeyodat what presactly is it you have an issue with ?03:01
TraceGreenen. i know, thanks!03:01
pashawodat,   or  drive simply going bad  for  heat   wearing out  etc03:01
graftnajah, what wireless card have you got?03:01
pashawodat,   you need to fix the corrution before  slowness03:01
odatintelikey,  the whole system is slower than it used to be    start ups are slower and each time it does the manual check after 30 start ups03:02
najah@ gaft i need it to work as i want to go linux and i need the wifi so the network at school03:02
BraveFencerKirbygraft - excuse me if I sound like a n00b, but how the hell do you use this fastsum program thingie?03:02
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odatpashaw, k how would i go about fixing the corruption03:02
pashawintelikey,   odats  30 reboot check always finds errors03:02
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najahi have a 802.11b/g03:03
intelikeypashaw mine does too03:03
graftBraveFencerKirby, no idea... just feed it your image file, and it should spit out an md503:03
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pashawintelikey,   ill let you handle odat then  those arent normal items for me03:04
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graftno, najah, i mean what brand03:04
graftspecifically what chipset03:04
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najahbrb im gonna chech03:04
intelikeyand seems to always put two or three '#some_number/'  in  /lost+found   but they are always blank.  empty dirs.03:04
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BraveFencerKirbyI'm wondering if my CD burner is screwing up the iso somehow.  Should I try using a different computer?03:05
intelikeypashaw no no.  you go ahead i was just trying to catch up so i might be able to assist03:05
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ProTeus4Seveas: while I am at it, are there any other large dirs I could move that would help me recover some / space?03:05
pashawBraveFencerKirby,   sure  and burn it  at 12x max03:05
SeveasProTeus4, /home perhaps03:05
CentHOGGanybody here vmwaring03:06
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Linfanwow apprecaite the assistance03:06
wizardjameshey03:06
pashawintelikey,   you seem to have alot in common03:06
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BraveFencerKirbyWonderful...  this means I get to download the ISO for a THIRD time.03:06
pashawintelikey,    heading home anyway  :P03:06
intelikeyk03:06
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intelikeyodat you do have dma enabled ?03:06
ProTeus4thanks, for the help - have a good night03:06
wizardjamesis it normal for ubuntu to frezese?03:07
pilgrimDid any compile their kernel recently?03:07
DRAGON_Ultrayes/no03:07
timmy_Kyral, thanks for the link to your terminal tutorial, I am on part 403:07
david_m_eSeveas... got a ? for you. I have a Canon Pixma ip1500 printer; I found a driver for it; the 1st command to install driver is: "deb-src http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/debian ./"; however, issuing that command results "command not found". Is the command wrong or is deb-src just not on my computer?03:07
odatintelikey, on this machine no03:07
Seveasdavid_m_e, that's not a command but a line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list03:08
david_m_eah... thank you03:08
david_m_enow, how do i do that ?03:08
intelikeyodat that might help the speed of things noticably03:08
david_m_egedit?03:08
Seveasyes03:08
timmy_Can I ask a question about updates and Dapper Drake?03:08
wizardjamesno..03:08
david_m_eagain, thank you03:08
KyralDapper....03:08
relampagobash: pw: command not found03:08
relampagowhy? :S03:08
BraveFencerKirbySee you folks in a half hour, I guess.03:08
Kyraltimmy_: not for a newbie :P03:08
timmy_will my version of Ubuntu update to Dapper Drake when it is released?03:09
odatintelikey, true however i would like to understand why it was much faster with less errors opposed to now03:09
Seveastimmy_, what's the question?03:09
wizardjamesyes..03:09
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Kyraltimmy_: you will have to do a minor edit to /etc/apt/sources.list03:09
timmy_but I won't have to do a full install again?03:09
graftoh.. BraveFencerKirby03:09
intelikeyodat yeah i'm pondering that also....   have you checked the logs for anomilies ?03:09
Seveastimmy_, with Ubuntu you will never have to do a reinstall03:09
graftdon't do ANYTHING while you're burning03:09
timmy_COOL!03:09
graftdon't even play solitaire03:10
odatintelikey, i wouldn't know how to do that03:10
wizardjameswhy would ubuntu freze?03:10
CentHOGGmemory03:10
graftwizardjames, probably it's very cold03:10
wizardjameslol03:10
timmy_I have done so many things to my programs so far, I would hate to have to redo03:10
wizardjamesit was doing good..03:10
CentHOGGbad ram03:11
david_m_eanother question, to anyone at large: i want to bring up Firefox with a particular site everytime i boot; what is the linux equivalent to autoexec/Programs->Startup ?03:11
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wizardjamesCentHOGG,  the ram is good03:11
CentHOGGverified with memtest?03:11
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BraveFencerKirbygraft - I could make a smartass comment about whether or not I'm allowed to burn while I'm burning....  but I'm not going to.03:11
wizardjamesdavid_m_e,  sessions..03:11
intelikeyodat it may be a big list but you could start with 'sudo grep -hie'error' /var/log/* | less03:11
ricardo25list03:11
timmy_thanks for answering my question!03:11
Seveasdavid_m_e, system -> prefs -> sessions03:11
timmy_till next time....03:12
david_m_ethanks Seveas03:12
Seveas!seen sabdfl03:12
ubotui haven't seen 'sabdfl', Seveas03:12
timmy_you guys rock!03:12
CentHOGG:)03:12
nix4meis it possible to start using LVM without re-installing?03:13
cafuegoshraaaaaaaaapnel03:13
Seveascafuego, relax, 11 more hours until newyear :p03:13
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cafuegoSeveas: 10.4503:13
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Seveasoh my, heat the oliebollen and chill the champagne before it's too late :)03:14
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intelikeyodat anything that grabs the attention in that might help.   less uses  /string  to search forword   and ?string  to search backwards   in case you are not familear with it.03:14
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cafuego(Yes, my neighbours DO own a nice boat :-)03:14
cafuegoSeveas: We're all out of champagne. i'm afraid it all got drunk on boxing day.03:15
Seveastsk03:15
jeorihehe03:15
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koburI am new to using linux.  Can someone please help me?  I am trying to figure out how to install video drivers.03:15
cafuego2 bottles of fizzy shiraz is all I have left03:16
Seveaskobur, which card?03:16
koburRadeon 9600XT all in wonder03:16
Seveas!tell kobur about ati03:16
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cafuegoIsn't the 9600 supposed to work with the free drivers?03:16
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intelikeyis it ?03:17
Seveasit works fine for me with fglrx03:17
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david_m_eanother question for at-large... are there any strong opinions about the general quality of the information at www.Linux.com? (i noticed their home page did not mention UBUNTU in any way and hadn't been updated in about a year)03:18
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intelikeyone old nvidia agp  is all i have that needs any driver or can do any trick s...tuff03:18
cafuegodavid_m_e: That's an issue for whoever operates linux.com03:18
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intelikeymy opinions are always strong david_m_e03:20
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intelikeyat least others tell me they stink.....03:20
intelikey:)03:20
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najah_hello nite03:22
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david_m_ei'm looking for a site that is for those new to Linux and with (obviously) quality info... Linux.com's home page says it's for those new to Linux, but then thier list of good, free distributions doesnt' include UBUNTU and the general tone seemed to imply it's just a front door for sales03:22
KyralUbuntuForums03:22
naliothdavid_m_e: linux.COM  (commercial)03:22
naliothdavid_m_e: try linux.org03:22
david_m_ei shall03:22
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CentHOGGI heard ubuntu bought debian the other day03:23
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CentHOGGlike Viacom bought CBS03:23
KyralCentHOGG: WTF?03:23
naliothCentHOGG: are you trolling?03:23
KyralCentHOGG: thats a GOOD ONE03:23
najah_im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!03:23
SeveasCentHOGG, lol, you read too much ELER :)03:23
claviola_hi, does anyone know if the amd64 livecd supports motherboards with the nforce4 chipset?03:23
CentHOGGcalm down fanatics03:23
CentHOGGjust joking03:23
david_m_enalioth thanks; i went to linux.org once before, and apparently i didn't bookmark it;03:24
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Seveashttp://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/clique <-- CentHOGG03:25
CentHOGGhah ROTFL03:26
PeteyPabloSo high Omfgx03:26
najah_can any one in here help me?03:26
PeteyPablonajah: maybe ask a question03:26
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intelikeyso now that ubuntu owns debian, will it go commercial ?03:26
navaronefunny one Seveas03:26
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SturgeonI'm trying to make a launcher for an application in gnome desktop, but i put the command i want it to excute in the "launcher" field and when i click on the icon it does nothing03:27
Sturgeonwhat am i missing?03:27
najah_PetePablo, im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!03:27
navaroneSturgeon what app and comamnd?03:27
najah_*linux03:27
naliothubotu: tell najah_ about wireless03:27
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PeteyPablonalioth: damn you03:27
Sturgeonnavarone: a custom application03:28
jakei've just installed for the first time, and when i try and startx, i get two errors: errno 111 and 3, anyone know how to fix this?03:28
intelikeySturgeon in the terminal type  'which <command> '   and then put that whole path in the laungher maybe03:28
navaroneSturgeon that tella me little...what is the application and what is the command you are putting in launcher?03:28
SturgeonI did that03:28
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intelikeySturgeon does it run ok from the terminal ?03:29
Sturgeonnavarone: You don't know the application. The command in the launcher is the full path to the executable. When i click on the launcher or right click and put "open" it does nothing though.03:29
Sturgeonintelikey: yes, it does :\03:29
navaroneSturgeon when you execute in terminal do you require full path?03:29
intelikeyyou can call it to run in a terminal if it needs a controlling tty/vc Sturgeon03:30
intelikeythe launcher options for that03:30
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Sturgeonnavarone: no03:30
Sturgeonhmm ok i'll try that03:30
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navaroneSturgeon...maybe launcher only needs command you would need in terminal to run...and click run in terminal...<?>03:31
intelikeyrun in terminal       iirc03:31
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ike_ls -l03:31
ike_whoops03:31
intelikeyls -lAsh   you mean03:31
jakeanyone else having trouble starting x?03:31
navaroneSturgeon...I know it is not a launcher but press alt-f2 and type terminal command and see if it works thru dialog as well03:32
Agamottojake:  Only with the newest nVIDIA cards03:32
intelikeyjake what error ?03:32
najah_PetePablo, im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!03:32
jakei have a geforce 2 so i assume that isn't old..03:32
jakeisn't new rather03:33
navaronejake it is actually...I have geforce3 and it is getting up in age itself03:33
Agamottonajah_:  Go to linuxlaptops.org and see if your particular model is listed.  They have many helpfiles/cheats for specific models03:33
najah_ok thank u03:33
jakenavarone: yeah i meant new :p03:34
naliothnajah_: read what ubotu sent you, please03:34
jakethe errors im getting are:03:34
jakexinit: connection refused ( error 111): unable to connect to X server03:34
jakexinit: no such process ( errno 3): server error.03:34
navaronejake yeah i saw after I entered...lol03:34
cafuegojake: They're not new, but they work fine.03:34
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intelikeyscroll up and see what preceeds that error jake03:34
najah_nalioth ubotu does not kno wat im talkin about03:35
navaronejake...i assume you installed xserver...?03:35
intelikeythat's just telling us that x didn't start so xinit couldn't03:35
Agamottocafuego:  What is a Millennium 2?03:35
jakeintelikey:i cant, im only on one machine, and booted in windows at the moment, but it was soomething about xauth making a new file03:35
cafuegoAgamotto: The best linux compatible video card ever made.03:35
intelikeyoh ok03:35
jakenavarone: i did the defaul installation from cd03:35
navaronecafuego? Matrox?03:36
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cafuegonavarone: yep03:36
navaronesheesh...I had Millenium about 7 years ago...lol03:36
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intelikeyjake login to console  and do a  'sudo rm .*auth* '   then try 'startx '   :)03:36
navarone4mb vram...S<>03:36
cafuegonavarone: I use it in a box that usually runs headless03:36
cafuegonavarone: Ha! Mine had 8!03:37
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cafuegonavarone: ... and it was looped into a Voodoo2 PCi card.03:37
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navaronecafuego...mine was in a P166 with 80mb ram...lol03:37
jakeintelikey: that exact command? or am i meant to replace *auth* with something?03:37
david_m_ecafuego did u ever get the answer to your video driver question?03:37
intelikeyno  .*auth*   is inturpreted by bash  you just type as is.03:38
AgamottoAhhhh, a Matrox Millennium.. ok, makes sense now03:38
MasterWammyim having a problem with a ITERaid PCi ide/raid card, i got the driver to compile and insert into kernel via modprobe corretly but i get these errors on the device:  sda: asking for cache data failed03:38
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MasterWammyand another error, when ever anything tries to access /dev/sda it hangs03:38
cafuegonavarone: Mine in a Dual P2/300 (with scsi)03:39
jakeintelikey: ok, well cheers, have to reboot into ubuntu to try it, but hopefully it work03:39
intelikeyjake03:39
navaronecafuego very posh...lol03:39
intelikeyone other thing03:39
jakeyep?03:39
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intelikeyif it does not work do a 'sudo - '   and try to startx   that will tell us if x can run as root or not.03:40
cafuegonavarone: 't was. all of 128MB ram. That box still lives actually, though I've added ram and plonked in 2 80GB ide drives on a controller card. It runs the network at the in-laws now :-)03:40
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intelikeythe first should fix you tho jake03:40
jakeok, will do, think i already tried sudo startx tho..03:40
jakeback in a bit then (maybe!)03:41
intelikeythat command will cause you to need to    sudo rm .*auth*     jake   lol03:41
intelikey<jake> ok, will do, think i already tried sudo startx <--- that ^03:41
jakeok...well, lets see how it goes03:42
jakebye03:42
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MasterWammyany ideas to my issue?03:42
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intelikeyMasterWammy i'm RAID illiterate sorry03:43
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ovehanyone running starterbar, (gdesklets) ?03:43
Ophiocus!grub03:44
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ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:44
Haukkari!ati03:44
tbwHowdy.03:44
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1003:44
tbwHow are you ?03:44
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AgamottoMasterWhammy:  Same here, sorry03:44
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MasterWammyAgamotto, got nothing to do with raid, its got to do with the stupid driver not working...bah! :/03:45
globotomyhey, anybody here have a sony vaio fs or fj? what do you think of it?03:45
MasterWammybeen fighting with this thing for all week03:45
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cilerboth of them are *****03:45
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toydihi, i need some help03:45
navaroneask away toydi03:46
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ITSa341Good evening everyone03:46
navaronehi Itsa03:46
versailywhen u download sumtin via symnaptic and choose download pacakge file only where does it go?03:47
globotomyciler: what do you recommend instead?03:47
cilerthe others03:47
navaroneversaily, I think you should chjeck /var/cache/apt or similar03:47
tbwI'm using ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop03:47
cilerexclude thinkpad03:47
versailyok thx03:47
tbwWith a synaptic touchpad03:47
Agamottoversaily:  /var/cache/apt or /opt, usually03:48
tbwis there anything I can do to make the mouse work better?03:48
intelikeyversaily /var/cache/apt/something probably03:48
koburSeveas Thanks for the help.  I have to reboot to see if it actually worked03:48
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raymondwhy cant i open java after i downloaded it03:48
versailyok03:48
Agamottotbw:  Why not a full cybernetic synaptic interface?03:48
versailyi think i can find it03:48
versailythx03:48
ben_underscorei have 5.10 on a thinkpad - no problems03:48
Agamottotbw:  In what way?03:48
tbwAgamotto: well it's just a bit touchy and I can't seem to disable the touch-to-click functionality and such.03:48
ben_underscoreraymond, in what way can you not open it?03:48
naliothraymond: you need to install the java before you can use it03:48
toydiI just installed Ubuntu, but stuck in 640x480 resolution. I tried several approaches in FixVideoResoHOWTO but failed. Would you help me here, i'm new to linux :)03:48
raymondlike i click on it and a error happens03:49
cafuego!javadeb03:49
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:49
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Agamottotbw: Go into System -> Prefs -> Mouse, it should all be in there03:49
globotomyi'm using an ibook g3/800 right now i'm looking to replace03:49
tbwyeah it isnt03:49
navaronetoydi what vidcard are you using?03:49
cafuegoWho is this Giannaros and why should we trust packages they host?03:49
toydiVIA/S3 Unichrome Intergrated Video (VT8378)03:49
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naliothcafuego: gianarros is apokryphos. and most of the packages are seveas'03:50
raymondwhen i download a file what typ of format dose it haft to be03:50
cafuegonalioth: his server has exceeded bandwidth03:50
tbwAgamotto: None of those options make any difference at all..03:50
Agamottotbw:  Interesting.  I have never had that problem03:50
tbwYeah03:50
tbwI think it's the synaptic nightmare03:50
intelikeyraymond good one :)03:51
ben_underscoreraymond, have you installed the sun java or the blackdown one?03:51
raymondim serius03:51
cafuego!javadeb =~ s#http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy#http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/#03:51
ubotuthat doesn't contain 'http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy', cafuego03:51
toydinavarone, my VIA/S3 Unchrome is integrated on-board video card03:51
intelikeyany03:51
raymondi cant figer it out03:51
raymondi tried03:51
cafuegogrr03:51
BraveFencerKirbyHey, random question.  When installing Ubuntu and partitioning my hard disk, what's the difference between "erase entire disk" and "erase entire disk and use LVM"?03:51
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intelikeywhat are you trying to dl raymond ?03:51
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navaronetoydi take a look at this thread and see if it looks helpful http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37025&page=303:52
tbwI wonder what will happen if I close the lid to my laptop ;)03:52
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raymondi tryed to donload java but it wont let me extract it03:52
naliothBraveFencerKirby: lvm is for multiple physical disks you want to have appear as one volume  "logical volume manager'03:52
morphixheh. i figured out my NIC problems.. the NICS eeprom is corrupted.03:52
BraveFencerKirbyRighto then, thanks nal03:52
AgamottoBraveFencerKirby:  LVM allows easier partition manipulation03:52
navaroneextarct it?03:52
jakedamn03:52
jakedidnt work03:52
ben_underscoreraymond, what does the file look like? is it a .sh file? if so, you need to run it as an executable in the terminal03:52
raymondit wont let me03:52
tbwAnyone know what I need to do to get my laptop to go to sleep when I close the lid?03:52
toydinavarone, ok thanks, i'm reading now :)03:52
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morphixthere is something really odd going on atm.. i cant do ANY commands all i get is03:53
morphix-bash: /sbin/hdparm: Input/output error03:53
morphixfor anything i try03:53
intelikeyjake no root access to x either i take it ?03:53
jakenope03:53
raymondit is a bin file03:53
navaronetoydi...simple thing would be to change "vesa" to "via" in xorg.conf and see what that gets you03:53
naliothubotu: tell raymond about java03:53
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naliothraymond: follow the instructions there03:53
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jaketho i got the erro message "X: warning process set to priorty -1 instead of requested priority 0"03:53
emptystaplerWhat are some decent non-Azureus BT clients?03:53
yaaarword03:53
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jake(that was when doing sudo startx)03:54
emptystaplerwhich have managers, etc (unlike tornado)03:54
raymondk03:54
morphixmy problems have only been since i heard some 'clicking' noises from the hdd03:54
thunderboltemptystapler: BitTornado, the 'official' bittorrent client.03:54
cafuego!javadeb03:54
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/03:54
Agamottothunderbolt:  Those are neurons being tickled for the first time03:54
intelikeyjake from the top, answer three questions for me,  when did you install?   did x work then ?   what have you changed that might be related to this ?03:54
thunderboltAgamotto: lol03:54
cafuego!lart nalioth03:54
emptystaplerthunderbolt: see my ammendment (I want one with a decent manager, sort of like ABC for windows -- lightweight)03:54
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FlannelKingAnyone know how to get mod_rewrite to work with a web_dav Location block in apache2?03:54
yaaaranybody know why my nforce2 onboard audio doesn't make noise? everything seems cool as far as modules (alsa) loaded and mixer settings, etc.03:55
jakeintelikey: eariler today, no, pretty much nothing - i had to change a link because X wasn't executable, or something03:55
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tbwHowdy.03:55
jakei was going off a post in the forums03:55
emptystaplerI found one called Rufus which reminds me of ABC, but all they provide is the python source which I don't have any idea how to compile03:55
tbwAnyone here using ubuntu on a laptop?03:55
cafuegotbw: I am.03:56
thunderboltemptystapler: you don't compile python source.03:56
binarydigitme03:56
intelikeyjake ok you may have to  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg     and read all the questions it asks and answer them correctly.03:56
thunderboltemptystapler: You just run it, its a script file, python automatically compiles it if necessary.03:56
tbwcafuego: Do you know what I need to do to get it to sleep when I close the lid?03:56
jakeintelikey: i did that but without -plow, what does that do?03:56
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emptystaplerthunderbolt: i know it's interpreted... it's compiled for the windows versions, didn't know if something similar was done for linux binaries03:56
thunderboltInteresting, link?03:57
epq2whats a very fast web browser that supports flash?03:57
intelikeysets the priority of questions to low    p low03:57
cafuegotbw: Nope.03:57
tbwbah03:57
tbwWhat happens when you close your lid?03:57
intelikeyjake what link did   you change ?03:57
jakedoes that mean there will be less questions or more?03:57
intelikeymore03:57
morphixthere is something truly screwed03:58
morphixi cant even shutdown03:58
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morphix-bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error03:58
morphix:03:58
intelikeya question with lower priority gets asked along with the questions of higher p03:58
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morphix:|*03:58
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Agamottomorphix:  very odd03:58
morphixcould this be caused from a failed hdd?03:58
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morphixcause the hdd was clicking majorly earlier03:58
hacimI'm having problems getting a media player working -- rhythmbox/amarok all play the mp3, but no volume03:58
jakeintelikey: i did sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X03:59
jakeim just trying to find the forum post i got that from03:59
Agamottomorphix:  It could be suffering a stuttering death, yes03:59
epq2whats a very speedy web browser?03:59
hacimepq2: elinks03:59
morphixfeck.03:59
epq2is it visual?03:59
navaroneepq2, Opera, Firefox03:59
thunderboltgrr03:59
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hacimepq2: its text03:59
thunderboltStupid automake, how dare you give me errors!03:59
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Agamottomorphix:  CLICKING???? Turn the thing off now, and I hope you have a recent backup!03:59
epq2navarone firefox = slow.03:59
morphixnope :(03:59
hacimepq2: galeon?04:00
navaroneepq2, then try Opera04:00
yaaarguys, is it a bit weird for me to have 2 audio controllers in my lspci listing? check this out:04:00
Agamottoepq2:  Not if you turn off the ipv6 bits04:00
epq2k will try opera and galleon04:00
yaaar0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B]  (rev a2)04:00
yaaar0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)04:00
hacimI get no audio at all04:00
athlonwhat should I use to extract audio from an xvid file ?04:00
epq2Agamotto in settings?04:00
intelikeyjake i don't have sorg on this box so i can't congirm that,  but you should also  do a   ls -l /etc/X11/X  when you get in linux again.  to confirm the link.04:00
Agamottomorphix:  You seriously need to quit using this hd now, and don't use it again until you try cloning it to a fresh one04:00
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intelikeyerr xorg04:01
navaroneepq2, there is epiphany as well...but I don't know how much it supports as far as plugins and such04:01
morphixyeh i just manually switched the pc off04:01
Agamottoepq2:  Enter about:config, and search for ipv604:01
jakeintelikey, i think i did that already04:01
morphixlets hope i can recover the data still04:01
jake(i have a piece of paper with all the commands i put in, and thats on there)04:01
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Agamottomorphix:  Offer a few novenas to St. Lucius04:02
_root_!nvidia04:02
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:02
intelikeynever hurts to dubble check.  and also   ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg  or where ever it points04:02
navaroneAgamotto, I would think St. Anthony would bea  better chance04:02
epq2Agamotto, what?04:02
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thunderboltemptystapler: It doesn't look like Rufus has any sourcecode in it, just install wxPython and try running it with 'python rufus.py' at a command prompt.04:02
intelikeylrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           27 Dec  4 06:39 /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S304:03
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emptystaplerthunderbolt: i will give it a whirl in a few04:03
wizardjamesis it true if i press alt+h   (or is it ctrl..) that folders will go unhiddin for a sec?04:03
thunderboltby sourcecode, I mean C/C++ code that needs to be compiled.04:03
emptystaplerare there no GTK based BT clients?04:03
AgamottoSt. Anthony is it?  Ok, I lost track after St. Prada replaced St. Christopher :)04:03
navaroneSt. Anthony is for hopeless cases...don't ask how I know...<s>04:03
tbwAnyone here use RthymnBox?04:04
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tbwIt's telling me none of my mp3's are valid audio streams...04:04
crimsuntbw: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?04:04
intelikeyjake may i encourage you to be patient, you are probably at the most stressful part of any installation.   :)    it gets better04:04
tbwIs that an extra step?04:04
tbwCuz if So, I didn't do it ;)04:04
thunderboltemptystapler: mldonkey-gui *seems* to be, although it is more than just a BT client.04:04
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jakeintelikey: yeah, im not too fussed, i just don't know what i'm doing!04:05
navaronejake how far along are you in install?04:05
jakedo you reckon a full resintall would help, or should i spend time trying to fix it?04:05
jakenavarone: fully installed, but cant startx04:05
intelikeyyou didn't master 'that other os' in a week either04:05
emptystaplerperhaps more importantly: the only video sink/source settings i can get to display video without failing to "construct a pipeline" are SDL/Test Input. is this normal?04:05
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emptystapleri am using the latest proprietary ATI drivers on a radeon 9600xt04:05
tbwhrm04:05
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tbwIt won't let me install it04:06
tbwbecause I don't repositories added right or something?04:06
intelikeyjake probably try the reconfig first.  maybe two or three times even   changing things each time.04:06
jakethats the dpkg-reconfigure right?04:06
intelikey"even a biind hog will find an acorn, every now and then'04:06
jakei assumed that would be more hardware related, and that even if i didnt get that right x would start, it just wouldnt work properly04:07
intelikeyright04:07
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intelikeyno no.  if that is not right x wont start.04:07
jakeah ok04:07
jakewell i guess ill have one more go at that and then go to bed04:07
jakethanks a lot for all your help104:07
intelikeyk luck to ya04:08
vbgunzfirefox04:08
vbgunz!firefox04:08
ubotuwell, firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.04:08
vbgunz!firefox 1.504:08
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, vbgunz04:08
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tbwAnyone know if there are repositories I need to add after a base install to be able to install everything I need?04:09
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navaronetbw...I can  get Rythmbox to play mp3s if I have System/Pref/Multimedia Selector set to alsa as both input and output sources...if I have it as esd and oss it just cycles thru library not playing any file04:09
tbwnavarone: I'm not even to that point yet ;)04:10
tbwnavarone: I can't even get the gstreamer mpeg decoder installed due to a repository issue04:10
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navaronetbw ok :004:12
tbwI just changed to multiverse04:12
tbwI hope that's not like unstable04:12
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tbwI'll be sad04:12
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naliothtbw: it's not unstable, just patent encumbered04:13
toydihi, i just tried the fixVideoResolutionHOWTO, when i restart (ATL-CTRL-Backspace) X, it failed to restart. I'm using VIA/S3 Unchrome on-board card now.04:13
tritiumtoydi: did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors?04:14
toyditritium, i'm new to linux. yes, i read but don't really understand, would u help me?04:14
tbwnalioth: make rthymnbox work ;)04:14
naliothtbw: /msg ubotu mp304:15
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tritiumtoydi: sure.04:16
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tbwnalioth, : How about making the laptop sleep when I close the lid?04:16
naliothtbw: that is hardware dependent04:16
tbwnalioth, : What do you mean? Either it works, or it doesn't?04:17
naliothtbw: something like that, yes04:17
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tbwnalioth: well that sucks, works great under windows.04:18
KyKoVLC is giving me no DVD audio... but I can play a CD from my DVD drive using CD Player.  If I get xine will audio work?04:18
MarcNtbw: different BIOS work better than others.  hardware dependant.04:18
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AgamottoKyKo:  You most likely need the libdvdcss2 library04:19
epphow would i make esd run on startup?04:19
KyKoOh I have it.  I get DVD video.04:19
KyKoJust lacking Mr. Audio.04:19
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KyKoI'm pretty sure it's on VLC in that I don't get CD audio either through it... yet the program acts as though it is playing.04:20
eppKyKo... mpg321?04:20
naliothubotu: tell epp about sound04:20
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AgamottoKyKo:  Go into the sound settings, and turn off the sound server startup box04:20
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eppnalioth... whats the files that i add esd to?04:20
naliothepp: i'm not sure, read the bots info04:20
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yves---Hi bros. Got a prob: phpmyadmin won't uninstall. Got a clue?04:21
nickrudepp, system->preferences->sound, and tick enable sound server startup04:21
KyKoAgamotto, sound settings of... vlc?04:21
MarcNyves---: what is the error message?04:21
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kalinhelp please04:22
surfacewho use firestarter here?04:22
AgamottoKyKo:  No, master sound settings, under preferences04:22
yves---MarcN, oups04:22
KyKoAh okay I found her.04:22
yves---MarcN, b back in a sec...04:22
kalini'm not allowed to copy a plugin within mozilla04:22
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KyKoAlright I turned it off.  Now try playing a DVD?  Or reboot?04:23
KyKoAgamotto, you did it!04:24
KyKoThanks buddy.04:24
yves---MarcN, outpu error 12704:24
yves---MarcN, output error 12704:24
KyKoI got Lost Season 1 on DVD for Xmas.04:24
KyKoNow I can watch it.04:24
MarcNyves---: sudo apt-get remove phpmyadmin just error 127?04:24
kalincould anybody tell me how to add a plugin to mozilla if i'm not allowed to do it?04:24
navaroneKyko..are you in Canada by chance?04:25
KyKoMichigan04:25
KyKonavarone04:25
yves---MarcN, used synaptic. will try console apt-get now04:25
navaroneokie...close enuff...;)04:25
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trineohello all04:25
KyKoWhy do you inquire?04:25
trineoi just downloaded the drapper04:25
navaroneKyko...I thought I recognized the accent04:26
trineoand i am not able to boot to the new kernel 2.6.1504:26
trineobut can use drapper with old kernel.04:26
KyKoHa my text has an accent?04:26
trineowhat might be problem ?04:26
MarcNtrineo: I; running that too04:26
trineoMarcN: ?04:26
navaroneKyko...was your use of "buddy" and "her" thought yuou were from east coast04:26
KyKoAh.04:26
KyKoYou're quite the linguistics expert.04:26
MarcNtrineo: not an old kernel, just dapper updated to current.04:27
jpfariashow do I fix the translations after intalling ubuntu?04:27
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yves---MarcN, here we go: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:27
trineoMarcN: works for you ?04:27
kalinhey is there a gangsta's who can help me?04:27
trineowhat i did was an upgrade04:27
kalinhehe04:27
jpfariasthe gnome panel is not translated, but the menus under it are04:27
trineoand it doenst boot to new kernel04:27
jpfariaswell, not all menus, but most of them04:27
MarcNtrineo: the only problem I have with dapper is getting dual head display to work.  Probably a matter of fixing xorg.conf04:27
KyKoWell I have hours and hours of LOST to watch.04:27
KyKoPeace04:27
yves---MarcN,  pre-removal script returned an output error 12704:28
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kalini need to copy a plugin to mozilla but i'm not authorized =(04:28
MarcNtrineo: using 2.6.whatever on a laptop with wifi, etc04:28
trineoMarcN: hmm.04:28
Canoeingkiddyo04:28
kalintu04:28
kalinel04:28
Canoeingkiddwhat04:29
jpfariashello?04:29
MarcNyves---: could be a broken uninstall script.   Easiest way to disable phpmyadmin is to move the directory under /var/www/04:29
FlannelKingAnyone know how to get mod_rewrite to work with a web_dav Location block in apache2?04:29
MarcNyves---: you should file a bug report too04:29
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tbwnalioth, : I followed the directions, but it dies saying that libid3tag0 and libmad cannot be installed.04:29
kalinwher is pashaw?04:30
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Yon!nvidea04:30
ubotuYon: Bugger all, i dunno04:30
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Yon!nvidia04:30
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:30
Gomo04:31
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naliothtbw: what platform are you using?04:31
trineoThe following packages have been kept back:04:31
tbwnalioth, : i38604:31
trineo  cupsys gnome-cups-manager linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38604:31
trineocan i know why this is the reason ?04:31
MarcNtrineo: some dependencies not yet available.  Wait a few days...04:31
yves---MarcN,  I will report.  I also just noticed that the package is broken; need to reinstall mysql-server... ah god...04:31
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naliothtbw: using only official repos? no foreign packages?04:31
trineoMarcN: oh okay :)04:32
tbwnalioth, : yep...base install 2 hours ago04:32
MarcNyves---: why reinstall?04:32
naliothtbw: enabled universe and multiverse repos?04:32
tbwnalioth, : YEs, per the instructions04:32
kalincan i add a plug in to mozilla? how is it possible if i'm not admin?04:32
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naliothtbw: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please04:32
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naliothkalin: put it in /home/kalin/.mozilla/plugins04:33
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kalinto put what? the plugin?04:33
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kalinnalioh the plug in?04:34
naliothkalin: yes the plugin04:34
kalinnalioh, but mozilla is in another dir04:34
kalinmozilla is within usr/lib04:35
naliothkalin: all of your gecko based browsers read the mozilla directory04:35
naliothkalin: your settings are in /home/kalin/.mozilla04:35
kalinreally?04:35
AnonymousHivehttp://freenode.net/news.shtml04:35
kalinoh i see04:35
morphix:(04:36
kalinwait me please04:36
yves---MarcN,  I've been trying to install a Joomla (Mambo) portal on my apache server.  It needs MySql support and php.  Can't get it right :o(04:36
yves---MarcN,  ... So I've been installing and uninstalling, and so forth. Ya know the drill.04:36
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rcarreraHola, buenas noches04:37
tritium!es04:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:37
MarcNyves---: sudo apt-get install mysql-server php4-mysql should do it I would think.04:37
cafuegoSeveas: Still awake?04:38
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EleafI can't get the livecd to connect to the network..04:38
Eleafhellppp04:38
yves---MarcN,  ... K I will04:38
kalinnalioth, nop there are only desktop and music within my home directory04:39
MarcNyves---: you probably want mysql-client too and php-db and some others.04:39
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kalinnalioh, there isn't mozilla04:39
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naliothkalin: all files beginning with a DOT  "." are invisible04:39
naliothkalin: put the plugins in /home/kalin/.mozilla/plugins/04:40
yves---MarcN,  ... am taking notes :o)04:40
can-o-wormscdroms get automounted when you put them in the drive in breezy right?04:40
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kalinnalioth, how can i do that?04:40
naliothubotu: tell kalin about cli04:41
Agamottocan-o-worms:  usually, yes04:41
can-o-wormsAgamotto: thanks... and you should get an icon on the desktop?04:41
kalinwell thanks nalioth i'm gonna check that page04:42
Agamottocan-o-worms:  Yes, but it can take up to 30sec for the icon to show up04:42
nurfeare there any good guides with Masquarading and Internet Connection Sharing for ubuntu?04:42
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bestadvocateanyone know anything about the rhythmbox roadmap including some sort of tag editing features in the future?04:45
crimsun_bestadvocate: try ex falso, which is part of the quodlibet package in universe.04:45
bestadvocatecrimsun; i will thanks04:46
can-o-wormsAgamotto: thanks04:48
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yaaarword04:49
hardawaydoes anyone know if networkmagic will be completed for dapper04:49
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Jeeves_mossall:  I think every one is asleep in here04:52
BxLno04:53
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Eleafplease help04:53
EleafI really need to get networking working with the ubuntu livecd...04:54
EleafUbuntu live cannot access my network..04:54
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CaptainMorganknow how I can get X-chat's menu to reappear? it's missing.....04:55
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CaptainMorganfor some reason04:55
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s0n1cm0nk3yIm having troubles with grub and my dual boot, can someone post their grub.conf so I can compare theirs to mine?04:56
CaptainMorganwhere's grub.conf located ?04:56
s0n1cm0nk3yI cant seem to get windows to boot04:56
s0n1cm0nk3yerrr04:56
EleafCan ubuntu live even use internet?04:57
thunderboltYup.04:57
EleafI can't get it to show up on the network.. it sees my ethernet device though04:57
s0n1cm0nk3yCaptainMorgan, um in the /boot/grub folder?04:57
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Tired_Hello.04:57
Eleafthunderbolt, do you know how to configure ethernet in ubuntu live?04:58
CaptainMorganhow do I get my xchat menu back ??04:58
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thunderboltEleaf: same way as in ubuntu, by running etherconf, or messing with config files, besides that, I'm no help I'm sorry to say.04:58
AgamottoCaptainMorgan:  Try ctrl+i04:58
EleafCaptainMorgan, I'd try reinstalling it04:58
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Eleafthunderbolt, I configured it in the networking control panel... does that work with the livecd?04:59
s0n1cm0nk3ycan someone post their grub config up on pastebin for me plz, its either menu.lst in /boot/grub, or something else04:59
CaptainMorganctrl-i didn't work... think Ill reinstal..04:59
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CaptainMorganthanks :)04:59
SepheebearCaptainMorgan: dont reinstall to get menus working04:59
Tired_I am currently running a program in X, that takes up the entire GUI.  I don't want to interrupt this program, but I'd like to run a different program, also using X in full screen. Will I need to start a second instance of X in order to do this, or can it handle serving to two fullscreen applications at once?05:00
Eleafthunderbolt, etherconf isn't in the livecd..  What else do I do?05:00
thunderboltEleaf: It should.05:00
CaptainMorgangot a better suggestions? love to hear it05:00
thunderboltEleaf: the GUI should work...05:00
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SepheebearCaptainMorgan: right-click in the chat window, go to view and then menubar05:00
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CaptainMorgangot two suggestions so far, 'ctrl-i' and 'reinstall'..... former didn't wor... so...05:00
AgamottoTired:  Easily05:00
Eleafthunderbolt, well it says eth0 is active and using dhcp, but everything is just defaulting to 127.0.0.1 and can't contact anything otherwise05:00
SepheebearCaptainMorgan: or ctrl+f905:00
CaptainMorganlol... Sepheebear that easy...05:00
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CaptainMorgansheesh05:00
thunderboltEleaf: hrrrm, I'm not sure whats wrong.05:00
CaptainMorganthanks05:01
Eleafthunderbolt, oh dear... what a doozy05:01
Eleafthunderbolt, some cables might have been disconnected, hold on.05:01
Eleaflol05:01
thunderboltHahahaha05:01
Tired_So I can just drop to a command line, run my program, and it'll display, without interrupting the other program in the background?05:01
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EleafAHHH  thunderbolt, my dad stole my ibooks ethernet cable half way in between where two cables connect for his laptop... haha, I was trying to get this to work for the past little bit.. = p05:02
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surfacewho use firestarter05:03
fredforfaendoes anybody here know of a way to enable true transaprency in breezy?05:03
ovehfredforfaen: true transparent in the gnu-terminal -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81727&highlight=true05:04
ilba7rsurface shoot your quest05:04
fredforfaenthanx oveh05:04
ovehfredforfaen: np :-)05:04
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slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:08
slimanyone here? :)05:09
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toydihey, is there any idea why Xorg.0.log keeps recorded several errors about my VIA device?05:09
yaaarcan anybody help with my nforce2 audio? i just get no sound...a great deal of alsa drivers are loaded05:10
yaaarmixer settings seem ok05:11
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Tired_argh.  anyone remember the mplayer command line switch to display in full screen, off the top of their head?05:11
GoldfischI just mounted a DVD iso movie I made. How can I play that in Totem?05:12
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GoldfischNever mind, I just did it with Ogle.05:13
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slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:13
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sorush20how do I do ndiswrapper during installation of ubuntu dapper kde05:14
sorush20?05:14
naliothsorush20: you don't05:14
AgamottoWhat is dapper, btw?05:14
nalioth!dapper05:15
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake05:15
AgamottoAhhhh05:15
Agamottobeta05:15
Tired_found it, thanks  :)05:15
Tired_it's -fs05:15
aTypicalIs there still an issue with locales in Dapper?05:16
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AgamottoaTypical:  considering it is beta, I would not be surprised05:16
slim!wpa05:16
ubotusomebody said wpa was enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"05:17
aTypicalAgamotto, but it's so nice otherwise. :-)05:17
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AgamottoI will take your work for it.  I gave up beta testing OSs with WinXP05:18
IceGuest_5Hello I got a question about the live-cd as well as the install cd05:18
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naliothbrianre001: you gonna share your question?05:20
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Eleafwith the livecd, can you install stuff using apt during the session?05:20
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naliothEleaf: yes you can05:20
slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:20
Eleafthank you nalioth05:20
DramaxusSorry ok I am trying to install 5.10 on machine but it gets stuck at a blue screeen after it  detects hardware05:20
hothwhat's the correct procedure to recover from 'hibernation'? After I hybernate my laptop, I lose control, not even the power switch works (my current hack is to cut all power & remove battery, and ubuntu does restart in the previous-to-hibernation state).05:20
Eleafnalioth, I'm having trouble mounting a nfs partition using the livecd, I guess I need to have portmap installed?05:20
naliothDramaxus: have you verified your media and iso image?05:21
DramaxusIt ran the cd test and seemed to be ok05:21
Eleafnalioth, actually it worked, it just took like a minute to mount.. = /05:21
naliothEleaf: no. you just need to know the proper syntax05:21
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DramaxusAnd on the liveCD it gets stuck at " Starting enterprise volume system05:22
EleafI like the way the livecd works, even though it takes long to boot....... lol05:22
naliothDramaxus: sounds like disc controller issues05:22
sorush20how do I find out if my motherboard is fully supported..?05:22
DramaxusI do have two hard drives.... ones a master ones a slave05:22
mejdeHas anyone experienced fast reads but slow writes and 100% cpu with mounted nfs dirs?05:23
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Agamottomejde:  From what I remember, this is somewhat normal, as writing to NTFS is still a work in progress05:24
AviatrixieHi everyone  :)05:24
mejdeAgamotto: nfs, not ntfs :)05:24
naliothAgamotto: not ntfs, nfs (network file system)05:24
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AgamottoAhhh, ok.  I have to plead ignorance then05:24
benplautanyone here know anything about ssh -X?05:24
naliothbenplaut: uncle google if you ask him "x forwarding ssh"05:25
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benplautnalioth: -_-05:25
DramaxusSo any ideas as to how I might bypass that little problem ?05:25
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Eleafnalioth, do you know what ubuntu is doing when "calculating module dependencies"05:25
iamdoctorronHey all, first install of Ubuntu after running RedHat for years.  I LOVE IT!05:26
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naliothEleaf: not really, no.05:26
naliothiamdoctorron: welcome05:26
benplautok, i'll strait out ask - is it supposed to open up a window, like VNC, or just you can launch X apps from the ssh shell?05:26
AviatrixieAnyone here familiar with the Westell 327w wireless router?05:26
Agamottoiamdoctorron:  Congrats05:26
benplautAviatrixie: unfortunately, yes05:26
Eleafnalioth, ok, because my ibook freezes on that every time now and I'm trying to find what to install to fix that..05:26
iamdoctorronThanks nalioth05:26
benplautAviatrixie: frikkin sucks :/05:26
naliothbenplaut: with x forwarding you run apps on the remote machine, but they appear locally05:26
benplautnalioth: k05:26
iamdoctorronI'm gonna lurk and learn, if y'all don't mind...05:26
naliothiamdoctorron: by all means, you might even feel compelled to help05:27
iamdoctorronCool!  I'll try.05:27
Eleafnalioth, oh yay, I was wondering about that a while ago.. lol05:27
Aviatrixiebenplaut... I'm new to Linux... love Ubuntu (everything simply works!) but I need to figure out how to configure my router.05:27
iamdoctorronI've done the install on PC and Mac now--beautiful.  Been using RH and FBSD for years.  This OS is amazing.05:28
naliothAviatrixie: configure it for what?05:28
benplautAviatrixie: the wifi, or just simple wired DHCP?05:28
Aviatrixiefor wep and all that stuff05:28
benplautshh05:28
benplautahh :P05:28
MasterWammyany possibility to install the kernel 2.6.14 ?05:28
MasterWammyis there a package for it yet or no?05:28
benplautAviatrixie: read the manual... it's in PDF on the Westell site. it's pretty good05:28
naliothMasterWammy: yes, when dapper finals05:29
MasterWammywhens that expected?05:29
vbgunzDoes Ubuntu come with another browser that can read webpages by default?05:29
benplautMasterWammy: you can compile it from source in breezy05:29
benplautnot too hard, but takes a while05:29
Eleafnalioth, if I chroot into my harddrive using the livecd, will apt use the sources.list on the harddrive?05:29
MasterWammyim scared of compiling the kernel.05:29
iamdoctorronYou can use lynx if you're old school!05:29
benplaut^^05:29
AviatrixieEverything works... but my wireless light keeps blinking on my router. Friends tell me it's neighbors interferring... stealling? my bandwidth.05:29
KurtKrautvbgunz, it comes with Firefox. What is the matter with Firefox ?05:29
benplautAviatrixie: can you connect?05:29
AgamottoAviatrixie:  Quite possible05:30
naliothEleaf: if you are chrooted into it, yes05:30
AviatrixieI just switched to DSL... been dial-up my whole life05:30
benplautyes, very possible05:30
Eleafnalioth, alright, cool.05:30
kalinyeah!!!05:30
slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:30
benplauti'm stealing my neighbor05:30
benplaut's ATM05:30
kalini managed to copy my plugins!!05:30
iamdoctorronHaha, so am I ben05:30
benplautiamdoctorron: >_>05:30
kalinthnks nalioht05:30
kalinthanks nalith05:30
AviatrixieI'm connected now. I love the speed of broadband05:30
kalinthanks nalioth05:30
naliothkalin: np05:30
benplautAviatrixie: verizon DSL isn't so fast... just try some good ol' roadrunner :D05:31
vbgunzKurtKraut: nothing is wrong with Firefox, just when it comes to launching different work modes for different users, clashes and prompts, etc begin. I am studying Python. I have certain webpages set to open under another profile with no toolbars, etc... Problem is I cannot launch another link to any of the profiles without failure :(05:31
kalinXD05:31
Eleafnalioth, for some reason, apt-get update only goes to 50% on the first site05:31
Aviatrixieit's just that all of a sudden I'm paranoid hackers are parked in front of my house eavesdropping!05:31
AviatrixieLOL05:31
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naliothEleaf: paste your sources.list please (pastebin)05:31
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AviatrixieI'm clueless... I don't even have a wifi anything... Verizon gave me the router for free05:32
KurtKrautvbgunz, you can run any browser made for linux on ubuntu, of course, but if you're experiencing problems with Firefox, please, don't forget to report this problem to Mozilla than this problem should be fixed in the next release.05:32
benplautAviatrixie: if i were you, i'd junk the damn thing ( jk)05:32
iamdoctorronNalioth, is there a Shoutcast player for U?05:32
AgamottoAviatrixie:  Go to the router/gateway's homepage and turn on encyrption, and change the WEP/WPA key05:32
naliothiamdoctorron: shoutcast player? you mean a streaming server?05:32
benplautAviatrixie:   http://www.westell.com/content/sales/327W.pdf05:32
iamdoctorronClient.05:32
vbgunzKurtKraut: I don't think it is a problem. I think it is more of a limitation...05:32
iamdoctorronLike WinAmp05:33
naliothiamdoctorron: dozens05:33
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Aviatrixiebenplaut... it's faster than dial-up... but yes. I'm getting half of the 3 meg Verizon promised05:33
benplautAviatrixie: to get to the config page, type "192.168.1.1" in a browser window05:33
iamdoctorronYou know how Winamp has a list of "channels" that it can play?05:33
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KurtKrautvbgunz, so, make it as a feature suggestion05:33
thunderboltanyone have experience with scanner permissions?05:33
iamdoctorronIs it as simple as me just entering the loc and port?05:33
benplautAviatrixie: if it asks for a password, the username is "admin", and the password is "password"05:33
Eleafnalioth, I'm not on the computer with the livecd right now.05:34
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iamdoctorronInto an Ubuntu streaming media client?05:34
naliothiamdoctorron: your default rhythmbox (or "music player") will do it, there is xmms (a winamp clone) and many others05:34
vbgunzKurtKraut: ok05:34
Agamottoiamdoctorron:  streamtuner is another good one05:34
Eleafnalioth, I disabled every repository but the top few that I never changed05:34
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iamdoctorronCool, I'm gonna give it a try.  Thanks man!05:34
wizardjameserm..  this may be odd asking,   but is there a gui program for mysql?05:34
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Eleafbut it still doesn't go past 50 percent Nakkel05:34
naliothbenplaut: Aviatrixie: can y'all take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please05:34
MasterWammyanyone know if ncurses is available via apt-get?05:34
Eleafnalioth,05:34
Eleaflol05:34
_w00they guys when i try to boot ubuntu for cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?05:34
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benplautsure05:34
naliothEleaf: have you pasted your sources.list?05:34
vbgunzmy question is, by default, Ubuntu doesn't come with anything else capable of viewing webpages... I would have to download something else like epiphany or something correct?05:34
RemmyHeya guys and gals... trying to remove a package, it fails to do so... how do I get rid of it anyways?05:35
gobeavswizardjames: something like phpmyadmin will administer mysql05:35
AviatrixieI tried that benplaut... I thought it wanted my Verizon name and password. I freaked... I'm soooo paranoid after years of windows I cancelled it.05:35
xueermysqladmin -u root password db_user_password     mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed05:35
xueerxueer error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO05:35
Matthew_WHey there, I can't seem to get my Xserver to work with my monitor, it's DVI, is there a module or something I have to get?05:35
naliothvbgunz: there are dozens of webbrowsers05:35
AviatrixieMaybe I should call verizon05:35
xueerwhat's the version05:35
xueerwhat's the reason05:35
iamdoctorronMatt, you have your modeline correct?05:35
AviatrixieThe GOOD news is I'm on linux now!05:35
vbgunznalioth: I know, but by default the only app capable of viewing webpages on Ubuntu is Firefox and nothing else...05:35
benplautAviatrixie: use the user and pass i just gave you, and /join #ubuntu-offtopic ...05:35
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_w00they guys when i try to boot ubuntu for cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?05:35
AgamottoAviatrixie:  it might be a good idea, if you can find someone who can walk you through the settings05:35
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Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; what?05:36
AviatrixieIt bugs me that someone might be snopping my wifi05:36
AviatrixieI had no clue05:36
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benplautAviatrixie: "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"05:36
Aviatrixiebenplaut... ok05:36
benplautin this box05:36
benplautk05:36
Aviatrixielet ne find it05:36
_w00tbenplaut can you help me please?05:37
Eleafnalioth, I'm not on the computer with the sources.list.  I'll send it over nfs hold on05:37
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; Where is this modeline you speak of05:37
benplaut_w00t: no clue05:37
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naliothubotu: tell _w00t about verify05:37
yiyos_hola gente05:37
alex323Hey everyone.05:38
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naliothyiyos_: howdy05:38
Matthew_WI'm assuming this modeline you speak of is in the xorg.conf?05:38
alex323Due to some "problems", /var was destroyed.05:38
iamdoctorronBetter ask Nal.  You need to enter the specific timings for your monitor in your modeline.05:38
alex323http://www.pastehere.com/?acmcxa05:38
alex323That's the output of apt-get05:38
iamdoctorronThere are lists of specific monitors on the 'net with the timings you need for your resolution and color depth.05:39
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alex323Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should do?05:39
alex323I have deps all over the place conflicting with one another.05:39
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iamdoctorronI am a novice too.05:39
Eleafnalioth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/640305:40
iamdoctorronI'm trying for you Matt...hang on.05:40
Matthew_WWhat is - Section "DRI" / mode 0666 - in my xorg.conf?  Could that be it?05:40
commus_hi , are u chinese in here . i am new player in linux , may i help u a little05:40
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slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:41
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Eleafnalioth, did you go to that?05:41
iamdoctorronXorg.conf has the modelines in it.05:41
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Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; what do they look like?05:42
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; or what does IT look like?05:42
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iamdoctorronWhere it says "Section   'Monitor'"05:42
Eleafnalioth, are you alive? lol05:42
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron, that is all correct05:43
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iamdoctorronCan you display a text console?05:43
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Agamottocommus_ :  Not Chinese, but ni hao anyway05:43
naliothEleaf: give me time to read, eh?05:43
iamdoctorronIf so, have you just tried to type "X"05:43
iamdoctorron?05:44
jesusany girl here?05:44
Eleafnalioth, sorry, I'm just so excited lol05:44
naliothjesus: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that05:44
iamdoctorronAre you getting a gray screen with an X in the middle at ALL?05:44
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; startx, yes.  It dies.  The sound works, the monitor gives no input.05:44
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Aviatrixiehappy birthday jesus ;)05:44
iamdoctorronDo you see the gray and the X for just a sec...?05:44
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iamdoctorronWhat kind of vid card?  What interface?05:45
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; no.  It just says "no signal" on my monitor05:45
Matthew_Wiamdoctorron; Nvidia GeForce 5700le 256mb ddr, GDM05:45
iamdoctorronOK, but it displays text right?05:46
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iamdoctorronIt sounds like you are trying to drive the monitor past its specs.05:46
Matthew_Wuh, alright05:46
Matthew_Wlet me set it down as low as it can go05:46
iamdoctorronWhat kind is it and ill look it up for you.05:46
iamdoctorronYou're on the right track!05:47
Matthew_WAcer al1916 19 inch LCD05:47
freddieneed help with videos on the internet they close my firefox05:47
iamdoctorronWhen this happens always start with 640x480 and go up.05:47
iamdoctorronIMO05:47
Agamottogood advice so far05:47
alex323freddie, Your best bet is to unplug the computer and take it back to the store where you got it from.05:47
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Matthew_WI'm using digital Video Input05:47
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Matthew_Wis there a module I have to load for that?05:48
Matthew_Wis there something I have to put into the xorg.conf so that it will let me... use a DVI input instead of SVGA?05:48
freddieneed help with videos on the internet they close my firefox05:48
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iamdoctorronI don't think so, but I have NO experience with DVI--I won't lie to you.05:48
naliothubotu: tell freddie about repeat05:48
iamdoctorronYou may want to take a quick look at ubuntus site.05:49
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iamdoctorronDVI is new to me with Ubuntu, but I need to know cause I have an install using it next week!05:49
freddiecan u just tell me how to fix it05:49
naliothfreddie: dont use firefox to watch video?05:49
iamdoctorronI don't THINK another mod is needed tho.  Your vid card should handle this.05:50
AviatrixieI must say... I recently decided to dump windows and migrate to Linux. Have a pile of ISOs on my spindle. Some worked for the most part, some didn't work at all... the only one that works flawlessly is Breezy. I'm impressed! BTW... my PC is a real mutt my ex built 5 years ago. He was a serious geek. I'm just a user who's glad to be rid of Windows. Now to migrate my kids, father, and everyone else!05:50
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AgamottoNo, no modules needed with DVI05:50
iamdoctorronHang on, I'm gonna look up your monitor and go from there--and your vid card.05:50
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Matthew_WAgamotto; any ideas what's happening?05:50
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Matthew_Wagamotto; my monitor gets "no signal" as soon as x is started05:50
iamdoctorronHe knows LOTS more than me!!!05:50
AgamottoBad video modes, as far as refresh rate, or signal is maxing out the timing on the monitor05:51
Matthew_WAgamotto; huh?05:51
iamdoctorronThat's what I'd bet me life on!05:51
Matthew_WAgamotto; I just installed a new Video Card.05:51
AgamottoBasically, your xorg.conf settings are overstating what your monitor can actually handle05:51
Matthew_WAgamotto; upgraded from an old 32mb nvidia to this new one, 256.05:51
iamdoctorronAgamotto, is there a -probeonly flag in Ubuntu?05:51
iamdoctorronFor Xvidtune?05:52
AgamottoMatthew_W:  This has nothing to with cards, it is purely a 'software' issue with xorg.conf and what it thinks your monitor can handle05:52
AgamottoI believe so, yes05:52
iamdoctorronWould this help him maybe?05:52
iamdoctorronTo nail the dot clock on the card?05:52
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Agamottoyes05:52
Matthew_WAgamotto; why is it not working with the same settings with which it was working before?05:52
Eleafnalioth, now it says not one of those sources works05:53
iamdoctorronThis is SOOO tough to do via text!05:53
Matthew_WAgamotto; The 32mb card could do 24 bit 1280x1024 60hz no problem.05:53
naliothEleaf: if those don't work, then you have a problem somewhere else05:53
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Matthew_WThen I changed it, now it doesn't work.05:53
iamdoctorronI'm looking up the monitor's parameters for 1024 32 bit05:53
pashawiamdoctorron,   are you talking to yourself?  i cant tell if your asking a question or helping someone05:53
AgamottoMatthew_W:  then use that guideline for your xorg.conf file, and see if you can get that as a start05:53
Agamottopashaw:  A bit of both05:54
punkrockguy318How can I get ffmpeg to work with the xvid codec?05:54
iamdoctorronKinda a three-way conversation..05:54
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Eleafnalioth, networking works when in the livecd05:54
Madpilothi all05:54
Eleafnalioth, but when I chroot into my filesystem, networking doesn't work05:54
naliothEleaf: i suggest you fix your box05:55
Eleafnalioth, that's what I'm trying to do.05:55
Eleafnalioth, it's broken05:55
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slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033205:55
Aviatrixiemadpilot... gear up, flaps up, climb power, after take-off checklist.... please ;)05:55
naliothEleaf: have you tried to do the 'rescue' or 'recovery' option at the grub prompt?05:55
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Eleafnalioth, they don't include a rescue or recovery kernel with the ppc version for some reason05:55
cafuegoYay, sexy.05:55
Matthew_WErr... so, what can I do?05:56
Eleafthe only kernel that shows up is "Linux" nalioth and it doesn't use grub05:56
naliothEleaf: you're on powerpc. lovely.05:56
naliothEleaf: i own nothing but macs, i know all about it.05:56
slimcafuego, are you from the netherlands?05:56
cafuegoslim: Yes05:56
Madpilothi Aviatrixie05:56
AviatrixieI've owned a few Macs... my intro to gui, in fact05:56
Eleafnalioth, can I put a recovery kernel on there? lol05:56
_dadhow is static IP set for nic in ubuntu 5.1 gateway p-II amd athlonb - etc/eths?05:57
david_m_ebefore i try to install this Canon driver, the driver help says to "make sure that cupsys works fine." As i have no printers, any suggestions on how to make sure cupsys works ?05:57
Matthew_WThe X servers are returning errors about some DRI module05:57
naliothEleaf: i'm thinking you may want to recover your data and start over (but my knowledge is limited)05:57
MadpilotAviatrixie: actually, I'm breaking the 8hr bottle-to-throttle rule as we speak, so no post-takeoff checklist for me! :P05:57
wizardjameswere do i get info on phpmyadmin (and all this setting up server stuff..  )05:58
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pashaw_dad,   hand edit  would be  /etc/network/interfaces05:58
AviatrixieMost fun I ever had was discovering computing on my ti99 back in 8205:58
SpY123.dyndns.tv05:58
david_m_ethat is, i have no printers yet... the Canon is connected, but not installed05:58
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Aviatrixiemadpilot... that's ok... just remember... 8 hours  ;)05:58
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naliothnasty spammers05:59
wizardjameslol05:59
cafuegossspammses...05:59
cafuegowe hates them!05:59
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AviatrixieI'm proud... I've gotten a bunch of stuff installed. With apt-get even!!!05:59
MadpilotAviatrixie: I usually allow 18-24 between, myself ;)05:59
cartesian1984I connect to my modem via usb. How do I change the connection interface to eth0 (ethernet)05:59
wizardjamesanyways...were do i look for info on mysql , phpmyadmin apache ..and stuff..  on setting it up..06:00
pashaw!tell wizardjames about lamp06:00
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AgamottoHrm, no Civ4 for Cedega yet... darn06:02
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AviatrixieMadpilot: at this point it's kind of irrelavent for me. I've flown professionally for 30 years. Suddenly I'm medically grounded. So... my AME tells me to keep my mind active. I've decided to learn linux. ;)06:02
david_m_ecartesion1984: i believe it's under System > Admin > Networking06:02
naliothAviatrixie: there is plenty to learn06:02
AgamottoI can vouch for that06:03
AviatrixieI'm enjoying it, nalioth06:03
wizardjamespashaw,  i already was there..   but its got me a bit of ways..but i dont know what to do now...06:03
Aviatrixiepashaw   hi :)06:03
pashawwizardjames,    you finished the install  and now dont know how to use it?06:03
pashawAviatrixie,   heya06:03
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wizardjameswell,06:04
Elden|Hororuokkhello?06:04
Agamottoyes06:04
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pashawAviatrixie,   nothing broken yet huh?   your  too happy with Linux which is the clue06:04
wizardjamesi dont get how to do all the stuff..i am used to a gui ,   its the first time i ever done this line based06:04
AviatrixieMaybe I shouldn't hang here... my Breezy is flawless. No complaints whatsoever. Kudos to the progs.06:05
pashawwizardjames,   you didnt answer my question   is it all installed?06:05
naliothAviatrixie: you can help folks here, if you wish06:05
Aviatrixiepashaw... absolutely everything works06:05
slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033206:05
doofusi switched over from FC306:05
AgamottoAviatrixie:  Nah, it just means that you most likely RTFM before doing things...06:05
doofusMUCH better06:05
pashawAviatrixie,   then your clearly not trying hard enough  :P06:05
wizardjamesyes.  its installed..  only part is i dont really understand the Edit Apache Configuration the user and groups part06:06
Agamottodoofus:  Same here06:06
Aviatrixienalioth... I'm very computer savvy... but a total linux noob06:06
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doofuscool06:06
skonlol06:06
bustacapdoofus, ubuntu: it's betterer than fedora06:06
MadpilotAviatrixie: good for you - too bad about the medical - hope you get it back soon!06:06
doofusthe only prob i have is my soundcard06:06
Aviatrixiewhen I feel qualified I'll gladdly offer my help06:06
pashawwizardjames,    id suggest you use google   hundreds of guides for apache    just google   apache guide   or mysql guide06:06
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AviatrixieLOLOL06:07
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David_oTest06:07
cafuegoLOLOL?06:07
AviatrixieRTFM... it's what pilots do for a living06:07
doofusi have an onboard s.card in FC3 it worked perfectly06:07
pashaw!tell slim about wpa06:07
pashawslim,   did you follow that?06:08
AviatrixieI do have a question...06:08
FlannelKingAnyone know how to get around the problem of having (apache2) a Location block and not being able to mod_rewrite in that location?06:08
MadpilotAviatrixie: the great secret of aviation - aircraft are actually powered by paperwork, not by avgas or JetA... :P06:08
aeon17x!dvd06:08
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy06:08
aeon17xBandwidth limit'D06:09
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slimpashaw I am well past that point :)06:09
pashawslim,    thought id check  i dont have wpa on any linux systems i use06:09
David_oBustacap tell it on #fedora ;)06:09
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slimtell pashaw no problem06:10
jesusany girl?06:10
pashawjesus,   just you06:10
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aeon17xjesus... asking for a girl... in the #ubuntu support channel06:11
Dashivayou're surely going to hell06:11
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mase!ati06:11
ubotuhmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:11
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AviatrixieI tried to install Audacity with Add Applications, Synaptic, and Automatix. Downloads seemed to work fine, but in the end there was nothing. No new program on my Apps menu, no file on my desktop or in my Home folder... nothing! No search could find any trace of it. What's up with that?06:11
naliothjesus: this is a help channel, not a social one. join #ubuntu-offtopic for girls or cake or anything else06:11
David_oAny no-geek here ? :)06:12
nalioth!automatix06:12
uboturumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!06:12
Agamottojesus:  Hoy quarta diga es por computadoras utilizar OS de Ubuntu, no es por sexas.06:12
naliothAviatrixie: i'd remove automatix06:12
naliothAviatrixie: it's a known box wrecker06:12
AviatrixiePeople keep tell me to remove Automatix... but it has worked flawlessly for me.06:13
AviatrixieI did burp once.06:13
naliothAviatrixie: time will tell.06:13
aeon17xnalioth: I guess I should also remove it from the Wikipedia?06:13
pashawAviatrixie, just dont recommend it tho ok06:13
bustacapwizardjames, the best howto I could come up for Ubuntu/AMP -> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.1006:13
naliothaeon17x: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please06:14
doofusanybody kno how to fix the dia_dxs in ubuntu?06:14
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bustacapit contains other stuff, which is super good as well for good well-rounded linux server knowledge06:14
AviatrixieWell... I've only used it to install a few things. I did like how it upgraded me from the wierd Java 1.4 to the bona-fide 1.5 runtime.06:14
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Matthew_WWhat is the search command from apt-get06:14
doofusMultiplex s.card06:14
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naliothMatthew_W: apt-cache search $STRING06:15
bustacapapt-get search <term>06:15
pashawMatthew_W,    apt-cache search06:15
bustacapyes cache :)06:15
pashaw:P06:15
bustacapa better place is packages.ubuntu.com06:15
bustacapvery handy bookmark06:15
doofuswhere do i go for s.card help?06:16
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raymondi need help installing jave06:16
Eleafnalioth, good thing I have access to my stuff... = /06:16
Aviatrixiepashaw... I came here the first time with questions about Automatix. It's obviously a scriptkiddie thing. I thought it broke my install... but it didn't. And it is very slick for newbies.06:16
naliothAviatrixie: can you join me in #ubuntu-offtopic ?06:17
doofussynaptic is better06:17
Aviatrixiesure06:17
Eleafnalioth, I really don't want to reinstall again because I've worked so hard to get my ubuntu perfect.  Like half a years worth of perfecting... = /06:17
Aviatrixiebrb06:17
diemanN6REJ: haha, i guess that was a misfire.06:17
naliothEleaf: dont do anything yet.06:17
doofuswhere do i go for s.card help?06:17
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doofuswhere do i go for s.card help?06:17
doofuswhere do i go for s.card help?06:17
Matthew_WI seriously can't figure out why my monitor will not run, and I would sincerely love to run X.06:17
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cafuegotry #spam06:18
naliothdoofus: repeating will only get you shown the door. if you tell us what a s.card is, we might be able to help you06:18
Eleafnalioth, ok.  I just don't know what to try and fix when it freezes on calculating module dependencies..06:18
doofussorry , soundcard06:18
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Eleafnalioth, and I don't know why I can't get internet access when I'm chrooted into my harddrive06:18
naliothdoofus: and the problem with the sound card is?06:18
bustacapraymond, have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:18
doofusin  FC3 i had DIA_DXS support now i dont06:19
naliothubotu: tell doofus about sound06:19
doofusi have tried all the forums06:19
raymondno06:20
naliothdoofus: check your private messages06:20
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slimtell pashaw no problem06:20
slimhey all need some help with wpa config...my woes are detailed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110303 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11033206:20
doofusthe sound works but the output is too high06:20
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doofusso the sound is a little 'scratchy'06:21
doofusin FC3 I could control it through amixer06:21
superchode|fuMatthew_W: what kind of problems are you having with X?06:21
masehow can i get a 75hz refresh rate? i can only go up to 60hz06:21
TeddCansomebody help me with a session problem I have?06:22
Agamottomase:  If you are on an LCD, there really isn't much point in going above 60Hz06:22
maseim not.06:22
Matthew_Wsuperchode|fu; well, X runs, but the monitor gets "no signal" when I start it.  In terminal only, it works fine, it's just as soon as I start x it fails.  I've sudo dpkg-reconfigured my xserver hundreds of times.06:22
kumakunCan anyone tell me what default location of my font files are?06:22
naliothTedd: ask your question to the channel06:22
TeddEvery time I try to log in I get some kind of session error06:22
maseKDE only lets me go to 60hz.. how can i change this?06:22
naliothubotu: tell kumakun about fonts06:22
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bustacapbugger about doofus06:23
jo_ehi.  does anyone know of any good apple II emulators?06:23
bustacapI was about to share the same experience with him06:23
bustacapand how I fixed it..06:23
bustacapmy scratchy sound started to happen after the latest kernel upgrade06:23
Matthew_Wsuperchode|fu; Additionally, I recently switched from a 32mb nvidia to a 256mb nvidia - also, from SVGA to DVI06:23
bustacappity he was a bit of an ass06:23
bustacapI did fix it through my mixer..06:24
bustacaplowered the PCM volume and it fixed it..06:24
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bustacapa little bit of mixer tweaking..06:24
pashaw!enter06:24
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!06:24
superchode|fuMatthew_W: i don't have any solution, i'm just trying to set up a remote connection through X to my ubuntu box from windows... and meeting some resistance. thought we may have some info to share06:24
Matthew_WHrm.06:25
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bustacap!pashaw06:25
ubotubustacap: Do they come in packets of five?06:25
TeddEvery time I try to log in I get a session error. right now I'm logged on as root06:25
TeddAs Terminal06:25
_tccHow can I change the music that starts when gnome is launched instead of that ubuntu theme?06:25
superchode|fui was able to get a GUI the first time i've tried and since then i can't launch any kind of session06:25
masehow can i reconfigure xorg so i can get up to 75hz refresh rate06:25
Matthew_WDoes anyone know if there's some way to switch so X autodetects the DVI instead of the SVGA06:25
Matthew_WOr is there a prog necessary to install DVI?06:25
superchode|fussh connection works fine but GUI fails06:25
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pashawTedd,    root?   what root?06:26
_tccHow can I change the music that starts when gnome is launched instead of that ubuntu theme?06:26
khafraHow come mplayer isn't in universe, and doesn't work on my satellite?06:26
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Teddpashaw: sorry, I meant as the terminal06:26
bustacaphaha @ pashaw06:26
naliothubotu: tell Tedd about root06:26
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Teddnalioth, I know about root. I said it wrong, sorry06:27
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_tccANy idea?!??!?!06:27
_tccHow can I change the music that starts when gnome is launched instead of that ubuntu theme?06:27
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bustacap_tcc, look at System -> Preferences -> Sound06:27
Teddpashaw, any ideas?06:28
_tccOh awesome thxbbl!06:28
khafraTotem doesn't work for ****, so I'd really appreciate it if mplayer did--but it doesn't.  wtf?06:28
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pashawTedd,    what do you mean by session error   X server crashes?06:28
DashAFKkhafra, you probably need the codec pack06:29
bustacapkhafra, have you tried installing the totem-xine package as well..06:29
TeddPashaw: I turn on the computer, and log in with my name and password. I click "Log In" and it gives me some kind of session error06:29
Teddpashaw, so I logged in as the emergency terminal and here I am06:29
bustacapI find that totem-xine is the best choice for a single-user pc and gxine is good over thin-client architectures..06:29
khafrabustacap: Yup.  It told me it would have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop to do that.  I did it anyway.  It still didn't work06:29
pashawTedd,   ok  is this a new install  or it used to work ok?06:30
khafraDashAFK: I got the codec pack that's offered on mplayer's website...06:30
naliothTedd: if you could tell us the error, i guarantee we could fix it06:30
bustacapubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage, it is entirely safe to remove..06:30
bustacapkhafra, have a geez at the RestrictedFormats site on the wiki06:30
khafrabustacap: Well, at least I didn't break anything while not fixing my media players06:30
Teddpashaw: Used to work fine. nalioth: Gimme a few minutes, I'll be back.06:30
bustacaphttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:31
khafrabustacap: But, like--mp3?06:31
bustacapeverything.. all formats..06:31
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bustacapwhat I have done in the past is followed the instructions, installed the codec .deb and then grabbed the codec tar.bz2 off the mplayer website to add in all the extra codecs not covered by the Marilliat .deb06:32
FiyawerxDoes anyone know of a good howto for manually installing a login manager?06:32
bustacapyou will know what I am talking about after you follow the steps..06:32
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Cubeoidhi friends06:32
Cubeoidi am me, cubeoid06:32
Cubeoidhello06:32
bustacapFiyawerx, what login manager are you installing?06:32
naliothCubeoid: this is a help channel, not a social one.06:32
Cubeoidk06:33
FiyawerxEntrance, I've already got e17 compiled and working, just not sure how to replace gdm with entrance ( I didn't use repos )06:33
Cubeoidthere are so many people here06:33
FiyawerxI had it working from the repo's before, I'm just wondering if there's a way to find out what exactly the package changes when you do it that way06:33
bustacapFiyawerx, ooh unsupported stuff :)06:33
Fiyawerxso i can try to figure it out manually06:33
naliothFiyawerx: did you compile and install manually? or make debs?06:34
Fiyawerxmanually, with the easy_e17 script06:34
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Fiyawerxso, not very manually :)06:34
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bustacapmanual enough to scare most users.. :)06:34
Fiyawerxlike if you reinstall gdm or kdm via apt, it comes up and asks you which to set as default06:34
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Fiyawerxis there a way to see what commands it executes when you select one of those choices?06:34
kestas"Could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player" yet I know that my path includes ~/.bin, which has realplay06:35
naliothFiyawerx: sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm06:35
naliothFiyawerx: choose entrance06:35
Fiyawerxi have a feeling eveno tho entrance was make-installed, i dont think it'll be in the list06:35
Fiyawerxone sec06:35
naliothFiyawerx: try it.06:35
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Matthew_WI've tried a million things, I'm losing it.06:36
Fiyawerxyeah, just gdm/kdm06:36
doogluskestas: how did you set your path?06:36
Teddnalioth, I got the error06:36
naliothFiyawerx: and if you can get all your manually installed stuff out, this link works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment06:36
kestasdooglus, in .bashrc, but I started it from bash06:36
Matthew_WWhere else are there configurations for your monitor besides in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:36
Matthew_Wand/or video card06:36
doogluskestas: does "type realplay" find it?06:36
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kestasdooglus,06:36
kestasdooglus, yep06:37
Fiyawerxyeah, i had actually used that to get it working before06:37
Fiyawerxbut wanted to try the other way, right from cvs06:37
doogluskestas: you ran firefox from your bash prompt?06:37
Fiyawerxinstead of shadoi's repos06:37
kestasdooglus, yep06:37
Fiyawerxand everything worked, im just not sure how to get the last little piece in place :)06:37
naliothFiyawerx: yes, but now you have cvs level enlighentment files spread all over your box06:37
Fiyawerxall over?06:37
Teddnalioth: It told me that "My session lasted less than ten seconds, and that I wanted to try and use one of the failsafe sessions". I tried them, and they didn't work- it resulted in the same error06:37
naliothFiyawerx: try that link, enable the repo and install entrance from it06:38
doogluskestas: was it already running?  when you run firefox, it checks whether another one is already running and exits if it is06:38
Fiyawerxthey're pretty much all in /opt/e1706:38
naliothTedd: did it give you a reason why it didnt last?06:38
naliothFiyawerx: oh, you did THAT one, kewl06:38
Teddpossibly because of an installation problem06:38
bustacapTedd, is it possible to delete all of the user's gnome configuration files?06:38
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Matthew_WI have no idea what's going on.  When I start X it just totally fails and says "No signal" on my monitor.  It's DVI.  it's almost as if the X server is being put through SVGA when there is no longer an SVGA cable.06:39
bustacaplike the .gnome & .gconf directories (to name a few)?06:39
Matthew_WHelp.06:39
Friar_TuckWhat is the fastest linux distro for gnome?06:39
Teddnalioth, possibly because of an installation problem06:39
raymondin the terminal it says my root password is wrong?06:39
naliothubotu: tell raymond about root06:39
naliothraymond: the root account is disabled be design in ubuntu06:39
naliothraymond: read the info ubotu links to for why06:40
ispikedcan ubuntu mount an ntfs partition with WRITE permissions?06:40
Teddnalioth, any ideas?06:40
pashawMatthew_W,   you swapped cards right?06:40
naliothispiked: if you don't like your nfts partition, yes06:40
bustacaphehe06:41
Matthew_WDMESG reveals agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 Compatible device at 0000:00:00.   Putting AGP 2.0 Compatible device at 0000:00:00 into 4x mode.  Putting AGP 2.0 Compatible device at 0000:01:00 into 4x mode.06:41
Fiyawerxactually, here's another question, when you do the sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm, it pulls a "list" of managers, where does it get that list from?06:41
Agamottoispiked:  You can, but it really is not a good idea06:41
Matthew_Wpashaw:  Yes I did.06:41
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naliothTedd: i have no idea. log in on a rescue terminal and run "rm ~/.ICEauthority"06:41
ispikedAgamotto, nalioth: I need to delete a directory, and would rather not boot to windows to do it.06:41
EpsilonHow do I open a .rpm?06:41
ispikedEpsilon: checkout alien.06:41
naliothispiked: writing to ntfs can lead to total ntfs partition loss06:41
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Epsilonalien?06:41
ispikeds/checkout/check out/06:41
Teddnalioth, I'm on a failsafe terminal. I'll try that right now, but I have to leave XChat.06:41
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naliothEpsilon: what program do you want from rpm?06:42
pashawMatthew_W,   thats the problem its expecting your old card with VGA connector output06:42
EpsilonWell06:42
rabbitdoes Amarok have a library like winamp??   or does it just do playlists??06:42
ispikedubotu: alien?06:42
EpsilonI want06:42
ubotualien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/06:42
Matthew_Wpashaw:  How do I fix this?06:42
Epsilonany program that lets me download music, video's, etc06:42
ispikedEpsilon: get limewire from their website.06:42
Fiyawerxhm, i see it mentions /etc/X11/default-display-manager06:42
naliothEpsilon: and have you looked at the over 17,000 programs we have available in our repositories?06:42
EpsilonWell06:43
pashaw Matthew_W   never used DVI in linux    i googled a few things  but without seeing your xorg.conf  i wouldnt know where to start   you tried  dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg  right?06:43
bustacapbittornado is a good one :)06:43
Epsilondoes anyone have limewire PRO?06:43
naliothEpsilon: go and get frostwire06:43
Matthew_Wpashaw; A hundred times06:43
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ispikednalioth: frostwire?06:43
naliothispiked: yes, ask uncle google about it06:43
EpsilonSage?06:43
EpsilonSafe*06:43
naliothEpsilon: follow ispiked to uncle google06:44
EpsilonAlso06:44
Friar_Tuck!dvd06:44
rabbitdoes Amarok have a library like winamp??   or does it just do playlists??06:44
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/06:44
Epsilonhow do I open the rpm though06:44
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pashawMatthew_W,   you should google   brand DVI linux  and try what others changed to make it work06:45
naliothEpsilon: you were told. alien06:45
pashawMatthew_W,   brand meaning  ATI  or Nvidia06:45
Epsilonk06:45
raymondim confused, if i cant use su how can i install programs06:45
EpsilonI googled that06:45
Epsilonbut I got the movie...06:45
naliothraymond: did you read the wiki page? use sudo for any and all superuser needs06:45
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raymondyea06:45
Matthew_Wpashaw;  Can't, I'm in terminal, and I'm a tad a nub.06:45
Epsilonnvm i think I got06:45
Epsilonit06:45
pashawMatthew_W,   ugg no other machine or dual boot?06:46
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Belboz99Hey, anyone know why the changes made to Apache aren't being appied?06:46
Belboz99applied*06:46
pashawBelboz99,   did you restart it06:46
Belboz99yeah06:46
naliothBelboz99: they'll be applied as far as they get to dapper06:46
duckdownHey all.. I just plugged in my Sony Digital USB camera, and SYSLOG shows it detected and says its loaded just fine, but how do I mount it or whatever now?06:46
Matthew_Wpashaw; nope.  lol.06:46
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Belboz99I did an "sudo apache restart"06:47
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Belboz99but the changes still aren't made :(06:47
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mase!java06:47
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:47
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Epsilonok06:48
EpsilonI got Alien06:48
Epsilonand am terminal06:48
EpsilonI typed06:48
bustacapBelboz99, try ps -ef | grep apache then kill -HUP <pid_of_apachedaemon>06:48
Epsilon./alien.pl06:49
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Epsilonwhat do I do next?06:49
rabbitdoes Amarok have a library like winamp??   or does it just do playlists??06:49
Matthew_Wpashaw; Is there a DVI module I should be loading, or is there some DVI setting I should be setting, or something?06:49
bustacapEpsilon, you should just apt-get install alien06:49
pashawMatthew_W,   using CRT or LCD?06:49
Epsilonsudo?06:50
Epsilongot it06:50
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bustacapthen sudo alien -d package.rpm06:50
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bustacapyes, you need sudo - apologies..06:50
bustacappashaw, LCD for DVI06:51
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Tedd|pashaw: can you do me a favor06:51
pashawTedd|,  ?06:51
Tedd|pashaw: when nalioth comes in here tell him Tedd| says thank you very much06:51
pashawTedd|,   np06:51
bustacapTedd|, nalioth is now known as noirequus06:51
Tedd|Oh06:52
Tedd|noirequus: THANK YOU for whatever that command was06:52
noirequusTedd|: np, yw, and share the love06:52
Tedd|noirequus: Could you tell me what it meant?06:52
Tedd|Delete a file, yes06:52
Tedd|But06:52
Tedd|What was the file? My user configuration?06:52
noirequusTedd|: when you start nautilus using sudo (or from a root shell) it munges your permissions06:52
noirequusTedd|: the most glaring permission change is in .ICEauthority06:53
bustacaphmmn, that's some bad *munging*06:53
bustacap:)06:53
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Matthew_Wpashaw; LCD06:53
Matthew_Wpashaw: Acer, al1916 19"06:53
noirequusTedd|: that's why you shouldn't run gui apps with superuser priveleges06:53
Tedd|Okay.06:54
Tedd|Thanks.06:54
noirequusTedd|: or if you HAVE to, use gksudo for gnome apps and kdesu for kde apps06:54
Tedd|I know now.06:54
raymondim a noob i really need help with this installing thing06:54
noirequusubotu: tell raymond about synaptic06:54
pashawMatthew_W,   think you could send me your xorg.conf file ?06:54
Matthew_WI could06:54
noirequusubotu: tell raymond about repos06:54
noirequusbbl06:55
Matthew_Wpashaw; how would I do that from terminal?06:55
Matthew_Wirssi06:55
pashawMatthew_W,   im willing to help    but i work better if i can see the setup06:55
Matthew_Wpashaw: /ctcp send?06:55
pashawMatthew_W,   lol  1 sec06:55
EpsilonI ended up with06:55
cafuegocurrent temperature: 43.0 C06:55
Matthew_Wpashaw; not used to this X_X06:55
Epsiloncontrol.tar.gz and data.targz06:56
EpsilonHow do I run the program?06:56
bustacapEpsilon, what program are you talking about?06:57
EpsilonFrostwire06:57
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Matthew_Wpashaw; o_O06:58
Fiyawerxhmm, apt-get wants to install a bunch of elib packages, to install entrance. I don't want that to conflict with my already made e17 stuffs. I just want its commands that it does when it configures entrance at the end, anyone know how to get that?06:59
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Fiyawerxis there a way to force a package to install disregarding dependency packages?06:59
rabbitdoes Amarok have a library like winamp??   or does it just do playlists??06:59
Fiyawerxit should find the libs it needs, even tho the packages aren't installed for them06:59
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noirequusFiyawerx: in a console, dpkg --help07:00
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toydihi, is there anyway to raise my video ram (i'm using intergrated video) to support 24depth,1024x768 resolution? (Currently, i only success to get 16depth,800x600)07:01
bustacapEpsilon, you should be able to just download the rpm, then 'sudo apt-get install alien fakeroot' then 'fakeroot alien -d FrostWire-4.10.0-1.i586.rpm' then 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb'07:01
Fiyawerxthanks, noirequus07:01
Matthew_Wpashaw; have you found anything?07:01
pashawMatthew_W,   easy big fella  im slow       /DCC SEND pashaw /etc/X11/xorg.conf      try that07:01
Fiyawerxoh, nice.. simulate07:01
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auraxdoes anyone knows about good p2p server that maybe can have web frontend to admin07:01
noirequusnow i'm really gone. bbl07:01
auraxdoes anyone knows about good p2p server that maybe can have web frontend to admin07:01
Matthew_Wpashaw; there, working.07:02
Matthew_Wpashaw; are you recieving it?07:02
mase!azureus07:02
ubotuwell, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo07:02
auraxnot client07:03
auraxserver07:03
pashawMatthew_W,   try it again   i had one there already  :P07:03
bustacapaurax, try looking at Freshmeat..07:03
auraxtried07:03
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Matthew_Wpashaw; there, coming again.07:04
intelikeyhowto boot from an ide cdrom via lilo/grub ?07:04
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tgcondorhello07:05
bogdanhello everyone07:06
tgcondoranyone has experience with installing ubuntu 'server' with software RAID1?07:06
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Epsilonok07:06
intelikeytgcondor bogdan07:06
EpsilonI got limewire07:06
Epsilonits under07:06
EpsilonInternet under applications07:06
Epsilonbut when I click it nothing comes up07:06
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docta_vthere's no reason to use limewire07:07
EpsilonI need music...07:07
Matthew_Wpashaw; aborted sending?07:07
tgcondori read the howto, took me almost an hour to find the missing step from the how to .. and now when I reboot to complete the installtion, weird things happen07:08
pashawMatthew_W,    no path to host error07:08
Matthew_Wpashaw; wonderful07:08
EpsilonWell07:08
Matthew_Wit's all default, my xorg.conf.07:08
EpsilonHow do I get Music, and Videos on linux?07:08
pashawMatthew_W, no it was default for your old card07:09
Matthew_WJust a completely generated file from sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:09
bogdanEpsilon:amule07:09
intelikeyvlc ?07:09
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Matthew_Wpashaw; I've reconfigured, since.07:09
pashawMatthew_W,    ohhh  got ya  all your tesrting07:09
bustacapaurax, have you had a look at the torrentbits.org website - that seems to be the torrent tracker that almost everysite uses07:09
Matthew_Wpashaw; it has my new thing's name in there07:09
Epsilonwhats amule?07:09
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Matthew_Wpashaw; is there like, a module I don't know about?07:09
pashawMatthew_W,   no    is your nick registered?07:09
intelikeyacross between ahorse and adonkey  :)07:10
Matthew_Wpashaw; yes.07:10
docta_vEpsilon: this is what you want, http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/07:10
pashawMatthew_W,   ill pm you so we dont spawm the channel07:10
Matthew_Wpashaw; got it.07:10
EpsilonIT THAT LIKE SLSK BUT LINUX?07:10
docta_vyeah07:10
EpsilonOMG07:10
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EpsilonTHANK YOU07:10
Toma-caps plz07:10
Matthew_Wpashaw; tell me when you've PM'ed me, not familar with irssi.07:10
docta_vnp...btw I've never used it07:10
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docta_vonly the regular windows client...but that looks decent enough07:11
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DashAFKyou want nicotine or museek for soulseek07:14
DashAFKpyslsk is really old07:14
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docta_vah07:14
docta_vso nicoine is better eh07:14
docta_vlooked worse based on the screenshots07:14
uoouhello, reckon anyone can help me out with a gnome problem?07:15
Toma-uoou: ask.07:15
uoouthanks07:15
docta_vah museek is actually c++07:15
docta_vthat sounds better07:15
DashAFKit's still in development07:16
DashAFKyou'll have to build it yourself but it's not hard07:16
Toma-gnutella 4 lyfe :D07:16
uoouI added a menu to my top panel then deleted the menu with smeg. Then right clicked the menu on the panel to dlete that too (what with it no longer existing). Now my panels are broken - they load, but they're all blank. Can't even right click them07:16
bustacapuoou, have you tried logging out and then back in again?07:17
uoouwondered if there was a way to revert gnome back to default panels or sommat07:17
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Epsilonomgosh07:17
uoouyeah, done that and also tried failsafe gnome (it's the same)07:17
EpsilonHow do I install .bin?07:17
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raymondwhat linux better than windows07:17
bustacapuoou, you could delete your .local directory under your home directory..07:17
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uoouok, I'll try that, thanks07:17
bustacaplet me confirm that uoou..07:17
Toma-uoou: mv the .gnome2 and .gconf folders to a backup folder then restart07:17
tgcondorlemme try again: I put in the CD, create a raid 1 partition, create logical group and volumes, give types and mount points to volumes. install progresses. base installtion is supposedly complete. CD is ejected. PC is rebooted. After reboot, I get some error messages including /sbin/init non-existant, and /bin/sh can't get tty. What's worng and how can I make it work? This is my first ubuntu install.07:17
raymondwhat makes linux better than windows07:18
Toma-raymond: the babes.07:18
uoouok, I'll try both of those07:18
DashAFKyeah the girls07:18
DashAFKi mean07:18
Toma-:D~07:18
DashAFKthe minute i mention ncurses or gcc they're on me07:18
bustacapuoou, log out, then CTRL+ALT+1, login as yourself then delete the .local directory07:18
DashAFKeven in church07:18
EpsilonHow do I install bin?07:18
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Toma-"sh blahblah.bin"07:19
ispikedwhat do I need to just use a CD to do formatting?07:19
Epsilonk07:19
Toma-ispiked: a small linux distro with fdisk?07:19
ispikedcan I use the install CD as a "formatter"?07:19
uoouok, thanks all, be back soon07:19
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FlannelKingon ubuntu, is there anythign special I need to do with apache2 (besides specifying RewriteLog and RewriteLogLevel) to get the log to work?07:19
intelikeyispiked yes you can07:19
ispiked intelikey, cool.07:19
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tgcondorno one had ever had a problem during the install after the first reboot?!?!07:20
EpsilonWhy wont' LIMEWIRE work?07:20
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EpsilonI click it and nothing comes up07:21
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DashAFKdo you have java installed07:21
Epsilonyes.07:21
EpsilonJust installed it07:22
DashAFKtry running it in a console and see what it spits out07:22
mhchai45yuan  ming07:22
EpsilonI dunno how to07:22
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drew_you are lovely people07:23
drew_thanks very much, it worked07:23
Xenguy!java07:24
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:24
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Fiyawerxwhen I do an apt-get -s install entrance, the last line is "Conf fooEntrance", is that using dpkg?07:25
bustacapcan somebody list all of the (official) ubuntu-related channels on FreeNode? :)07:26
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XenguyFiyawerx: I'm not sure what you're asking07:26
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FiyawerxBasically, I'm trying to find out how apt-get random.login.manager actually makes that login manager your default07:26
Fiyawerxso I can manually do this with Entrance07:27
Fiyawerxlike apt-get install kdm/gdm brings up a menu asking you to select which you want for primary07:27
xiaowenDoes anyone see the kernel sources for 2.6.12 in the archives?07:27
XenguyFiyawerx: nod07:27
FiyawerxI compiled entrance via cvs, but am not sure how to manually enter it as my default login manager07:27
Fiyawerxtrying to avoid splitting up between cvs and shadoi's cvs repos07:27
Fiyawerxand figured i'd learn something meanwhile :)07:27
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intelikeyhowto boot from an ide cdrom via lilo/grub ?07:28
intelikeyany body ever did that ?07:29
Xenguyintelikey: no, I think that is a BIOS thing07:29
bustacapintelikey, why don't you use BIOS?07:29
intelikeyand turn it on and off in bios between boots.... no thanks.07:30
Xenguyintelikey: just take the CD-ROM out :-)07:30
EpsilonI have a question07:30
intelikeyi'll just set it up as a lilo option.07:30
xiaowenFound it linux-source-2.6.12 finally.07:30
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intelikeyjust thought maybe one of ya had already done this....07:31
EpsilonWhat do I burn .iso with on Linux?07:32
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XenguyEpsilon: k3b  ?07:32
tritiumEpsilon: even nautilus can do that07:33
Epsilonnautilus?07:33
Epsilonwhat is that07:33
tritiumit's the file manager and graphical shell for gnome07:34
Epsilondo I gotta download it?07:34
tritiumEpsilon: are you running gnome?07:34
XenguyEpsilon: should be installed by default07:34
EpsilonI dunno07:35
EpsilonI need to burn a .iso bad.07:35
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XenguyEpsilon: are you running ubuntu?07:35
Epsilonyes.07:35
XenguyEpsilon: so Nautilus is installed07:35
GTroyhey guys, how do you replace a xorg.conf file?07:35
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GTroyI try mv and I can't change it07:35
XenguyGTroy: what do you want to do?07:36
Epsilonso where is Nautilus located?07:36
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GTroyreplace the xorg.conf file with one I've made07:36
tritiumEpsilon: it's running when you are logged into gnome07:36
XenguyGTroy: preface cp using 'sudo'07:36
Fiyawerxman, this is complicated, heh07:36
GTroyI tried07:36
GTroyno change07:36
XenguyGTroy: backup the original file07:36
GTroyI did07:36
EpsilonHey people07:36
EpsilonThis is so confusing07:36
EpsilonI am going back to windows.07:36
intelikeytritium unless you fix it it is....07:36
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tritiumintelikey: heh, okay ;)07:36
XenguyGTroy: you cannot edit the file as 'root'?07:36
GTroyEpsilon: don't you'll regret it07:37
EpsilonI dunno07:37
GTroyhaven't tried07:37
EpsilonI am real young.07:37
XenguyEpsilon: hah07:37
GTroyXenguy: I just want to replace it07:37
Epsilonand my little brother is 907:37
tritiumEpsilon: can you go to Places->Home Folder?07:37
Epsilonhe will never no how do do this07:37
XenguyGTroy: edit it?07:37
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Epsiloncya people.07:37
tritiumEpsilon: he certainly couldn't burn a .iso image on windows any more easily07:37
EpsilonYa I could...07:38
GTroyXenguy: you say I should use cp instead of mv?07:38
tonyyarussoGTroy, So try pico or gedit.07:38
Epsilonand installing stuff on windows07:38
tritiumEpsilon: did you even try?07:38
Epsilonisn't such a big hassle07:38
GTroyI don't have X running07:38
intelikeyGTroy use nano07:38
GTroyok07:38
XenguyGTroy: just to keep a backup of the original file, yes07:38
EpsilonI can't remember it all07:38
tritiumEpsilon: you haven't tried to learn, obviously07:38
EpsilonI will be back someday07:38
GTroyXenguy: I've got a backup of both files07:38
EpsilonWell07:38
EpsilonI got a life07:38
Epsilonand special07:38
Epsilonwhen I am07:38
EpsilonYOUNG07:39
Epsilonlol07:39
XenguyGTroy: sudo apt-get install nano && nano <FileToEdit>07:39
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Epsilon24-12 is my age07:39
Epsilonlol07:39
Epsilonso ya07:39
tritiumEpsilon: okay, then quit trolling07:39
Xenguy!enter07:39
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:39
GTroyXenguy: no net connection right now untill I have X running07:39
Epsilonbye07:39
EpsilonI will get back on sometime07:39
XenguyGTroy: no X does not preclude a net connection, strictly speaking07:40
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yaaarXenguy: I assume by "strictly speaking" you mean "whatsoever"07:40
twystedGTroy, are you using a wireless connection is that why you dont get a connection until X starts?07:40
yaaar;-)07:40
tonyyarussoGTroy, It's true.  Even when I have X up I still connect with wvdial, in the console.07:41
tritiumEpsilon: see you later, Henry07:41
GTroytwysted: yes07:41
twystedGTroy, yea thats kinda normal :)07:41
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some_dudewhere the wine package ?07:41
twystedGTroy, since one owuld have to specify which AP to get on, where as ethernet just works if its hooked up to a cable07:41
tritium!info wine07:41
twysted!wine07:41
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB07:41
tonyyarussoGTroy, I've managed to pull that off too with iwconfig and ifconfig, if stuff cooperates I guess.07:41
Xenguyyaaar: grammar police? :-)07:41
GTroywell I can't get modprobe ndiswrapper to load in modules07:42
GTroyunless at terminal07:42
yaaarXenguy: no, not grammar.....the meaning is the bit i was trying to center the jest on07:42
some_dudeok, I know what wine is, but apt-get install wine failed07:42
Xenguyyaaar: ;-)07:42
tritium"strictly speaking" has valid meaning07:43
twystedGTroy, yea but you can do that within X and your window manager07:43
GTroyXenguy: you solved my problem, I was using mv instead of cp07:43
tonyyarussosome_dude, What kind of 'failed'?07:43
twystedbrb07:43
some_dudenot found failed07:43
XenguyGTroy: glad to hear it :-)07:43
yaaartritium: right...but it's meaning is quite different from 'whatsoever' and my point was that X doesn't preclude net *at all* rather than strictly speaking. the suggestion that the two phrases were equivalent was what made it a joke07:44
gijoshI plugged in my mic, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to see it.  Is there a setting I need to mess with?07:44
tonyyarussosome_dude, Do you have the section described above enabled in your sources list?07:44
some_dudewhere above ?07:44
tritiumgijosh: check your mixer settings07:44
gijoshtritium: thanks07:45
tonyyarussosome_dude, ubotu's response.07:45
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tonyyarussosome_dude, (Universe)07:45
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pashaw!tell some_dude about repos07:45
yaaaranybody use an nforce2 board w/ onboard audio?07:45
XiCillinare there any repositories for 64-bit applications?07:45
yaaarmine doesn't make any noise...07:45
yaaardrivers (alsa) loaded and mixer seems right07:46
aeon17xNoiseless audio... that's a new one.07:46
yaaartried killing esd, no help.07:46
dabaRso installation of ATI drivers is not possible on Hoary with the live CD?07:46
twystedXiCillin> yes as long as you installed the 64bit version of ubuntu07:46
dabaRHoary+, that is.07:46
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yaaaraeon17x: yeah....my sound card is like a tree falling in the woods when no one is around...07:46
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Xenguyyaaar: hah, mine too07:47
aeon17xyaaar: have you tried fiddling with PCM instead of master in the mixer?07:47
tonyyarussodabaR, I don't know about Hoary specifically, but if you have the RAM for it I think you can pseudo-install any package with a Live CD.07:47
dabaRCause it seems it wants a reboot. And also, the wiki page seems to be recommending ATI drivers from their web site for newer Ubuntu versions, after warty.07:47
yaaaraeon17x: yeah, fiddled with all available sliders and looked through the list of possible channels to add to the list to see if any might be useful.07:48
dabaRtonyyarusso: the thing is that the ATI drivers wants you to reboot.07:48
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Xenguyyaaar: I might be using similar hardware, but still trying to find out how to get soundcard connected07:48
yaaarXenguy: what chipset?07:48
dabaRor a grammatically correct version of my sentence...07:48
tonyyarussodabaR, Ah, that would cause a problem.07:48
yaaarXenguy: is it an actual card, or onboard?07:48
Xenguyyaaar: GeForce 610007:48
Xenguyonboard07:48
yaaarXenguy: er...isn't that a video board?07:48
tonyyarussodabaR, Does the system you're running your live session on have Linux on the disk as well, or no?07:48
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Xenguyyaaar: yes, sorry07:48
Xenguyyaaar: I just bought this, and don't know the sound hardware/config yet07:49
yaaarah, ok....what's the trouble? video problems i know more about07:49
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dabaRtonyyarusso: :) no, I was just wanting to show a friend Ubuntu on his computer without installing, and I ran against that wall...07:49
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Xenguyyaaar: video is working now, but soundcard not detected AFAICT07:49
intelikeywhat is the bios call of /dev/fd0    0x0?  ???07:49
yaaarXenguy: do 'lsmod | grep snd'07:50
Xenguyyaaar: OK07:50
yaaarXenguy: do you get output? (don't paste it)07:50
tonyyarussodabaR, Okay.  I don't know the differences between releases; would it have it already if you managed to get a Breezy disk?07:50
Xenguyyaaar: no output07:50
dabaRtonyyarusso: not likely. But I will test it out perhaps one day in a similar circumstance with a breezy live CD. Thanks.07:50
tonyyarussodabaR, Good luck.07:51
eppsup07:51
yaaarXenguy: ok...try 'lspci' and look for lines about audio07:51
Xenguyyaaar: K07:51
yaaarmine says 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)07:51
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Xenguyyaaar: "Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknow device 026b (rev a2)07:52
Xenguy"07:52
FlannelKinganyone know why web_dav (svn) doesn't work well with mod_rewrite? (mod_rewrite IS rewriting, but then the url doesn't change, and webDAV has it's way with the request)07:52
yaaarwow07:52
yaaarthat's kind of interesting.'07:53
twystedFlannelKing> might want to ask the people in #apache07:53
Xenguyyaaar: I've tried 'aplay -l' and nothing is detected07:53
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yaaarFlannelKing: or #gentoo-apache ...there's great help in there frequently07:53
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Xenguyyaaar: I just need to get sound going, else I'm going to have to exchange the motherboard I think07:54
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Jeeves_mossall:  ok whos awake here?07:54
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Jeeves_mossall:  any one here have experiance with Proliant servers?07:54
FlannelKingIve tried apache, for a few days ;) gentoo apache? alright, Ill check it out.07:54
Xenguyyaaar: how did you mean "interesting" ?07:54
pashawJeeves_moss,   taking a survey? or have a question07:55
yaaarXenguy: i don't often see lspci come up with an unknown device07:55
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  no, I've got a proliant server here thats being a pain in my a**07:55
Xenguyyaaar: yeah, it pisses me off -- sound should "just work" nowadays07:55
Jeeves_mosspashaw: I'd REALY like to get it running, I've got so much work that I'd like to get done.07:56
pashawJeeves_moss,   how our you ask your question   or explain your error07:56
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Xenguyyaaar: I figure I need some kind of drivers07:56
crimsunXenguy: lspci -nv onto pastebin.07:56
yaaarXenguy: well, that's the thing that bugs me....i've found very little about problems with my sound chipset, and have found several people who seem to have had it "just work" including one with a website up detailing my exact model of motherboard.07:56
dabaRyay07:56
pashawJeeves_moss,   you put Ubuntu on it.07:56
Xenguycrimsun: OK, sec07:57
dabaRXenguy: you know you are in luck when...07:57
Xenguycrimsun: it'll be more like a few minutes -- operating on another box here07:57
Jeeves_mosspashaw: I get through the install (installing to p0d0 (partition 0 for boot, partition 1 for swap, and partation 2 for user), and then when it reboots, it drops to a fricken' busybox shell saying it can't find p0d0 (allthough the "live" CD finds it with no problem07:57
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GTroyhey guys, how do you exit pico?07:58
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GTroyand save the file07:58
crimsunC-x07:58
Jeeves_mosspashaw: yes, thats ALL I run for Linux.  This server causes a kernel panic on Debian's installer, and I don't like Suse or RedCrap07:58
dabaRGTroy: it tells you on the screen, no? ctrl+x07:58
yaaarGTroy: ctrl-w and then ctrl-x07:58
GTroyok cool07:58
yaaarwait....07:58
yaaaris that ctrl-o07:58
yaaarhrm07:58
tonyyarussoGTroy and yaar: Save in pico is Ctrl-O, not w.07:58
yaaaryeah07:59
yaaarsorry07:59
GTroyok what I needed07:59
GTroythanks guys07:59
tonyyarusso(and lowercase, oops.)07:59
GTroynp yaaar07:59
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intelikeyGTroy you look at the instructions at the bottom of pico and follow07:59
Jeeves_mosspashaw: Any ideas?07:59
GTroysorry guys07:59
GTroyto be a pain07:59
GTroydon't usually use terminal text editors08:00
dabaRGTroy: you are welcome to ask any question.08:00
pashawJeeves_moss,   well    if it were me id install using the acpi off switches as its a server    but missing a boot device after the installer formats  thats odd08:00
pashawJeeves_moss,   using a recovery kernel can you get in?08:01
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  you'd think hunh?  its scary that the installer sees the p0d0 drive, partitions it corectly, installs to it, then panics when it reboots.  I'd REALY like to get this rackmount server running this week.08:01
intelikeylshw is pretty worthless isn't it....08:02
yaaarbrb folks, gonna play with some things08:03
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  I can get a busybox shell.  but thats not realy helping me figure it out.08:03
intelikeyi mean it's weak, doesn't find my floppy drives or network cards  not even the agp card....08:03
pashawJeeves_moss,  you can login into the CLI?08:03
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Xenguycrimsun: sorry for the delay: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/640708:04
Jeeves_mosspashaw: ??08:04
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pashawJeeves_moss,   im not sure what sheel your talking about    im trying to guess where it stopped08:04
Jeeves_mossok, one sec.  I'll get it running and give you the exact syntax08:05
pashawJeeves_moss,    reboot and try a recovery kernel     try that first  maybe somethings messed up  with main kernel08:05
gnu2it2is there a single apt-get that will grab all the compiler stuff? make, gcc etc08:05
crimsunXenguy: what motherboard?08:06
Xenguycrimsun: bear with me, my hardware-fu is weak...08:06
Xenguycrimsun: it is a Biostar chipset, do you need a model or ?08:07
crimsunXenguy: yes, I need a model #08:07
pashawJeeves_moss,   all my servers get installed using these switches as apm is all a server needs   acpi=off noapic08:07
Xenguycrimsun: (I just bought this box for Xmas)08:07
PeteyPabloI HIT THE bong and then i reload it08:07
Xenguycrimsun: OK, hang on08:07
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ALERT! /dev/ida/c-d-p3 dosen't exist. Dropping to shell.08:07
PeteyPabloinhale exhale just got an ounce in the mail08:07
liable/dev/ida?08:07
Jeeves_mosspashaw: I'm just getting into the linux server thing.  And to think that 3 months ago, I didden't even know what "ls" was in a command line.08:08
pashawJeeves_moss,    try a recovery kernel08:08
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Jeeves_mosspashaw: how do I do that?08:08
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Xenguycrimsun: the "mainboard" is 'CRU51-M7' -- is that what you need?08:09
pashawJeeves_moss,   reboot   when grub comes up  pick a kernel that says recovery     grub comes up right?08:09
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  yes the grub loader comes up.  just a sec.08:09
Xenguycrimsun: AMD08:09
crimsunXenguy: sec.08:10
XiCillinanybody get skype working on amd64?08:10
Xenguycrimsun: nod08:10
Jeeves_mossXiCillin: I got it to work on my PPC08:10
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intelikeydo i have to use (hd?) in grub or can it read /dev/hd?  ????08:11
XiCillini got the .deb package installed but when i run it i get 'error wihle loading shared libraries'08:11
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XiCillini have the library installed08:11
Jeeves_mosspashaw: it STILL crashes out on /dev/ida:c0d0p3  its STILL claiming that it dosen't exist, and it still drops me to a "busybox" shell.08:12
liableintelikey: in what context?08:12
pashawJeeves_moss,   ok it says c0d0  earlier you said p0d008:12
intelikeyboot prompt08:13
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  sorry, it says c0d008:13
pashawJeeves_moss,    its ok   but i knew  p0d0  was wrong08:13
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crimsunXenguy: do you have the manual? I'm missing a pci id for that chipset.08:14
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, so now what?  it seems like it can't find the user files.  it likes the bood and swap, so now what?08:14
Xenguycrimsun: yes I have a User Manual; let me see if I can find that "pci id"08:15
pashawJeeves_moss,    looking if its a common problem08:15
crimsunXenguy: no, look for a description of "audio"08:15
GTroyhow do you copy a rtf file so it's understood in xorg.conf?08:15
crimsunXenguy: your manual won't have a pci id08:15
Xenguycrimsun: OK, will do, sec08:15
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  hummm, well it would be nice if I could find a "common" workaround.  I'd hate to see this nice server go to waste.08:15
intelikeyi keep getting  /boot/grub/device.map:7: error: Bad drive name08:16
pashawJeeves_moss,   reboot   when gub comes up pik your normal kernel   then hit "e"    and change c0d0p3  to c0d0p108:17
Jeeves_mosshummm, ok, one sed.08:18
pashawJeeves_moss,   just to test08:18
intelikeyi set it to (cd0) /dev/hdd    'an atapi cdrom drive'  but error is all i get.  there was nothing in the man page on cdroms08:18
vbgunzIs it possible to open gnome-terminal with two tabs?08:18
tonyyarussovbgunz, Yes.08:18
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vbgunztonyyarusso: am checking help now, is it a switch?08:18
Fiyawerxanyone know how to make sure something is starting after hal or nologin08:18
tonyyarussovbgunz, You mean initially?08:18
liableintelikey: shouldnt it be hd3?08:19
vbgunztonyyarusso: yeah08:19
tonyyarussovbgunz, Once it's open Ctrl-Shift-t does it.08:19
gnu2it2is there a single apt-get that will grab all the compiler stuff? make, gcc etc08:19
tonyyarussovbgunz, Oh, that I'm not sure.  Maybe?08:19
vbgunztonyyarusso: :) yup, I know that one, I found the --tab switch :)08:19
intelikeyliable i'll try that.  but it's not an hd.08:19
vbgunztonyyarusso: hopefully that'll do it :)08:19
liableintelikey: why is cdrom in device map? i havent seen it there before.08:19
liableintelikey: thats just a naming convention, its still on the drive controller.08:20
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tonyyarussovbgunz, Let me know how that works.08:20
vbgunztonyyarusso: yup it works :)08:20
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  it didden't like it.  now its complaining about /dev/ida/c0d0p1 dosen't exist08:20
ispikedhow do I use the install CD as a "formatter"?08:20
intelikeysame error liable08:20
ispikedah, intelikey?08:20
tonyyarussovbgunz, So for more than one more would you do like --tab --tab or --tab 2?08:21
pashawJeeves_moss, your sure  you only have 3 partitions08:21
Jeeves_mossyep.08:21
pashawJeeves_moss,   what were they?08:21
vbgunztonyyarusso: maybe, I tried with just one --tab and got two tabs :)08:21
Jeeves_mossis there a way to look @ the partitions from busybox?08:21
Xenguycrimsun: hrm, I don't see a direct hit: I have 2 main references in the manual, 1) "Onboard AcC'97 Sound Codec" and 2) "CD-ROM Audio-in Connector" -- does that help?08:22
pashawJeeves_moss,   i havent crashed ubuntu like you did    no idea what your in08:22
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  what I don't get is that it installs it corectly, then crashes out.  Is there a web install like there is for Debian?08:22
pashawJeeves_moss,    there is a server install08:22
crimsunXenguy: not really. How new is this motherboard?08:23
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pashawJeeves_moss,   maybe you should  retry using that   and use the switches  acpi=off noapic also08:23
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  if I do a fresh install, think there might be something in there that we could pick out that might shed some light on the problem?08:23
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  what does that do?08:23
pashawJeeves_moss,  disables all acpi crap you dont want on a server anyway08:24
pashawJeeves_moss,   servers werent designed to hybernate08:24
Xenguycrimsun: good question, I'm not sure but it is a Semptron and I know the video chipset (GeForce6100) was released in late September AFAIK08:24
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  whats the differance between that and just typing "server" @ the install page?08:24
tonyyarussovbgunz, Yeah, you have to add another --tab for any additional ones you want.  A launcher with a number after it doesn't do anything.08:24
liable!drxx Syntux08:24
ubotuliable: I give up, what is it?08:24
liableoops08:25
pashawJeeves_moss,   it disables those and passes them to the new kernel not to use them either08:25
liableSyntux: sorry08:25
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vbgunztonyyarusso: I only needed another tab... Now I need to get Python to open up on the second tab but opened focused on the first :)08:25
Jeeves_mossok, so @ the boot page, what should I type?08:25
wizardjameshow do i update firefox?   i downloaded 1.5 but i dont know what to do now08:25
Syntuxlol08:25
pashawJeeves_moss, ubuntu disk?  or kubuntu?08:25
tonyyarusso!tell wizardjames about firefox1508:26
pashawJeeves_moss,   i can double check  either which do you have08:26
Jeeves_mosspashaw: the full ubuntu disk that I d-loaded.08:26
pashawJeeves_moss,   gimmie a sec08:26
crimsunXenguy: go to the manufacturer's Web site and tell me what it says regarding the audio features08:26
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  thanks. if we can get this working, you will have solved a month long problem08:27
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Xenguycrimsun: OK, I will follow this up, however, it is 2:30am here and I really should head to bed :-)08:27
Xenguycrimsun: I will catch up with you when I have the info08:28
Xenguycrimsun: thank you for your help08:28
Xenguy!08:28
ubotuXenguy: Are you smoking crack?08:28
Xenguyubotu: no08:28
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...08:28
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Xenguy:-)08:28
tonyyarussoHow does it do that?08:29
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naliothtonyyarusso: heard of artificial intelligence?08:30
theconartisthow do i run in apt with sudo from a run prompt?08:30
tonyyarussonalioth, Heard of, yes.  Understand even faintly, no.08:30
naliothtonyyarusso: ubotu is not one08:30
nalioththeconartist: gksudo synaptic08:30
theconartistty08:30
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  any luck?08:30
pashawJeeves_moss,   this at boot: server acpi=off noapic nolapic pci=noacpi08:31
theconartistnalioth, how did you know it was synaptic? :p08:31
pashawJeeves_moss,   disable acpi is there 2 times  but it wont hurt anything08:31
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  hummm, its chewing.  this could be intresing.  Where did you find that?08:32
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pashawJeeves_moss,   just boot options  hit F2 F3 F4   at  boot:   when the cd spins up08:32
pashawJeeves_moss,  i use those on my debian servers08:32
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, what should I be doing for the partitioning?08:33
pashawJeeves_moss, is this a play server i take it?08:33
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tonyyarussoIs it possible to go through all of the steps of the install CD without actually installing?  Maybe with some sort of emulator?  This would be for showing someone what to expect from it, and advising on certain steps.08:34
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  play server?  ALL 9 servers are "play" servers till I get my 72U rack.  Then they'll get upgraded, tossed into rackmount cases, and put to "real" work08:34
pashawJeeves_moss,   lol  thats cool  sounds like a blast      what size disk in this one08:34
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, there @ the partitioning menu.  I've got "erease entire disk /dev/ida/c0d0", "erease entire disk and use LVM", and partition it manualy.08:35
pashawJeeves_moss,  i have a 72U rack  and a 58U?   its about 5foot    the 7foot one wont fit in the server closet at home  :P08:36
pashawJeeves_moss,    disk size?08:36
Jeeves_mosspashaw: I've got a LARGE kitchen with tile floors.  It'll end up in there.  Anyways.  partitioning,  what should I use?08:36
FlannelKingHey guys, with apache2, I've got conflicting information here, my rewrite log says the url is getting rewritten, but the browser never sees it (and my error log gives an entry to the pre-rewrite url), anyone knwo whats going on?08:37
pashawJeeves_moss,   do you even read my questions?  :P08:37
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  working on it.  I've got 2 36.6Gb SCSI 10K disks RAI 0 together making 72.8Gb08:37
pashawJeeves_moss,   ahh that might be your problem also08:38
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pashawJeeves_moss,   didnt expect the scsi raid08:38
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  its a hardware RAID.08:38
tonberry1hi, im trying to install/use program called Scratchbox, but it says: "Host kernel has port range under 10 000. You can fix this eg. by running: echo "1024 65000" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range". Now I tried to do that and even do it with using sudo, but didnt work (says Permission denied). Any hints what I could try to do?08:38
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pashawJeeves_moss, your happy its set bootable and all?08:39
tonyyarussotonberry1, Maybe actually switch to root and try it.  I had something once that ran that way but not with sudo.08:39
naliothtonyyarusso: somewhere on the great wiki, there is an illustrated walkthrough of an install08:39
tonberry1ok, thanks. now i just need to find a way to become root :)08:40
tonyyarussonalioth, Oh, that works too.  Thanks.08:40
pashawJeeves_moss,   the installer doesnt really check for that stuff until after the first boot you find its set wrong08:40
naliothtonyyarusso: use sudo08:40
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  yep.  its hardware RAID, and as far as the OS sees it, its a 72.6Gb disk aray thats taken care of by hardware.08:40
minghuahi, does anyone know where the _installed_ locale data is saved?  I've looked at /usr/share/locale, /usr/share/locale-langpack, /var/lib/locales, the first showes everything, the latter two only show the localed installed through language packs.08:40
naliothtonberry1: use sudo08:40
naliothubotu: tell tonberry1 about root08:40
globeis there a windows remote desktop clone for ubuntu?08:40
minghuaI am wondering where the locales locally installed by locale-gen is (oh this is on dapper, forgot to say)08:40
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  so now what one do I select?08:40
rob1globe, xwindows is designed to be network aware08:41
tonberry1nalioth, doesnt work for my situation (couple of lines above, says i dont have permission :/)08:41
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naliothglobe: there are vnc clients of all names available08:41
tonyyarussonalioth, Yeah, he said he tried that.  So I mentioned that I had one occasion where sudo didn't work but working as root did.  Just get out quickly after you're done.08:41
pashawJeeves_moss,   you know the hardware config allows you to set anything as the boot device even if its not pointing to anything?08:41
naliothtonberry1: i missed what you said08:41
tonberry1kk08:41
naliothtonyyarusso: there is no active root account by default (for a reason)08:41
globenalioth: are any of them compatible with XP's built in remote desktop functionality (a stretch I know)?08:41
naliothtonberry1: use sudo -i08:41
tonberry1ill try that08:42
tonyyarussonalioth, Do you have another idea?08:42
naliothglobe: if XP uses the vnc protocol, yes08:42
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  no idea.  As I said, all I know is that this server forces you to rin a program called "smartstart" from Compaq to "set up" the hardware, and the RAID.  All I know is that I want to get the OS installed on this thing so I can get to doing something that is going to be productive.08:42
globeI dont think it does....its not exactly M$ form to follow standards....08:42
pashawJeeves_moss, with 72G  you have loads of choices  id go    8G /     10G /home   1G swap    rest ad later when you decide to use it for samba shares etc08:42
naliothglobe: true. you might search packages.ubuntu.com  and if you don't find anything, sourceforge.net08:43
Jeeves_mossok, now HOW do I set that up?  do I erease the entire disk and use LVM or manualy do it?08:43
HoxzerAAargh08:43
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pashawJeeves_moss,  manually    time to learn   your not risking a windows partiton or anything so your ok08:43
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  nothing is on this RAID array.  So we're going manual here?08:44
DavidLeeRothdoes anyone know where i can find a driver for the radeon x700 pro? or how to config it?08:44
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pashawJeeves_moss,   you can try LVM if you like   but its more to learn08:44
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  I'm looking for the SIMPLEST method to just get the server up to a stable system so I can play.  Whats your sudgestion?08:45
tonberry1nalioth, sudo -i didnt work :/08:45
tonberry1still permission denied08:45
naliothtonberry1: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?08:45
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pashawJeeves_moss,  manual  with the layout i suggested   so you have free space to add later  like a normal server would do08:45
tonberry1"Host kernel has port range under 10 000. You can fix this eg. by running: echo "1024 65000" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range" <-- im trying to do that (seems to be required for installing Scratchbox)08:46
Jeeves_mosshummm, well I was thinking of using what ever I need for the boot, a 1Gb SWAP, and the rest for user.  that was I can get crazy with what I install (I'm still learning how to mount partitions).  So what would be the layouts?08:46
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tonberry1hmm.. ill try it again08:47
naliothJeeves_moss: you'll be fine with a 768mb swap (unless you're goin for hibernate functionality)08:47
pashawJeeves_moss,   no  required is / <<<root  and swap       common is  /  swap and home    work servers break it farther to / swap /var etc etc08:47
tonberry1woot, now it didnt complain anything :D08:48
tonberry1lets see if the installing works..08:48
naliothJeeves_moss: i DO recommend you make a seperate /home partition08:48
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Jeeves_mossnalioth:  whats your sudgestions?  I'm gettin' tired here and I just want this stupid thing to boot.  I'm in a manual configuration.  Whats the BEST and QUICKEST course of action?08:48
pashawJeeves_moss,   use root /   swap and /home only  as partitions08:48
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pashawJeeves_moss,   dont break off boot either08:48
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, first partition, how big?  and what to I assign it to?08:49
tonberry1nalioth, thanks. now i get pass that. (new problems, but ill try something :))08:49
pashawJeeves_moss, i told you above  8G /     1G swap    10G /home     rest empty  for later to learn with08:50
pashawJeeves_moss,   in that order also08:50
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XiCillindoes installing the nvidia drivers allow for dual monitors?08:51
pashawXiCillin,   yes08:51
GTroyanyone know how to get sudo permission to save in pico?08:51
pashawXiCillin,   if your card supports it08:51
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XiCillinyea it does08:51
XiCillinpashaw, whats the deal with 'nvidia settings' program it seems like it doesn't do much08:51
thoreauputicGTroy: just atart it with sudo  sudo pico  (btw pico is really nano in ubuntu)08:51
GTroyok08:52
GTroythanks08:52
naliothJeeves_moss: quickest is to make some free space and let it handle it on it's own, best is to take a couple of minutes and set your partitons08:52
pashawXiCillin,   havent touched it myself  :P   im using a Quadro dul setup08:52
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naliothGTroy: you type "sudo pico file"08:52
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, its set up with / @ /dev/ida/c0d0 (partition #1), SWAP @ /dev/ida/c0d0 (partition #2), /home @ /dev/ida/c0d0 (partition #3)08:52
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GTroyok coool08:52
pashawJeeves_moss,   looks great08:53
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, thanks.  Sorry for being dumb.  I've worked 70+ hours this week, and I'm kinda out of it (a beer dosen't help either)08:53
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pashawJeeves_moss, im just curious if this works for you then im hitting the sack myself08:54
mebaran151When I sync Evolution with my Windows CE Phone using Multisync08:54
pashawJeeves_moss,   if that error happens again its your hardware raid setup08:54
mebaran151it fils in the department field with a single colon and adds a blank webpage08:55
pashawJeeves_moss,  incase i fall asleep here08:55
mebaran151so that it messes up the formatting08:55
mebaran151how might I avoid this08:55
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, thanks.  I'm going to do the same.  if it crashes on re-boot, I'm going to be pissed.08:55
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  whats your e-mail addy?  I'll send you a pic of my rack.08:56
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pashawJeeves_moss,  lol  use pastebin   then tell me the addy  next time your on08:56
pashaw!pastebin08:56
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:56
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  hummm, it looks like I learn something once again.08:57
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pashawJeeves_moss,  i learn alot more   while helping here       than i do playing counter-strike08:58
garry:)08:58
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ironicaly, this server (once running right) will be a CS-Source server08:58
pashawJeeves_moss, your da-debil then08:59
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  hunh?08:59
garryYeah, I spent ages healing players in DAOC just for the fuzzies, but trying to help here, seems to have more meaning. What is a CS-Source server? Newbies like me, wanna know.09:00
ilioxj?09:00
pashawJeeves_moss,   my favorite game  im avoiding   your making ANOTHER server for it09:00
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Jeeves_mosspashaw.  LOL.  its a private server that we'll be able to "dubble boot"09:01
garryOh, doh, I'm so dense. you say counter strike and I didn't make the connection. LOL09:01
marcelcI need help in getting a USB homeplug network working in linux09:01
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globehow  can I manually set the display resolution?09:02
marcelcit works fine in windows.. there appears to not be a driver in the linux kernel.09:02
pashawglobe,    fixed all the time?09:02
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  I'm thinking dual 933 PIIIs with 2Gb of ECC RAM should be good enough.09:02
pashawJeeves_moss,   agreed09:02
marcelcIt uses the X1 chip09:03
globepashaw: yes.  I had to disable ipv6.  thanks for all your help, btw09:03
marcelcHas anyone got experience with this product?09:03
garryHmmm, display resolutions can be defined in the xorg.conf file, I think there are sample files in /etc/X11 that have nice comments and help.09:03
naliothubotu: tell globe about xcfg09:03
GTroyok I have an undefined device referenced by a screen, and a problem parsing the config file with no screens found......can anyone lend a hand?09:04
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  think it'll have enough horse power to run something decient?  (CPU wise?)  and how many players do you think I could get on it?09:04
garryIS that a control for home devices marcel?09:04
naliothglobe: if you run the command ubotu sent you, you can pick the ONE resolution you want09:04
marcelcgarry, it is for networking at 14mbps over powerlines09:04
garryhmmm, I could search out my xorg.conf file, is there any trick that I can use to send you the text of it via this xchat?09:04
marcelcHomeplug 1.0 spec09:04
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naliothubotu: tell garry about paste09:05
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globenalioth:  I have done that--had to before getting x to run at all.  And I am still stuck @ 800x600 --And I am sure that I selected 1024x768 when running tha script09:05
naliothgarry: use a pastebin09:05
pashawglobe,   here i made this pastebin for a guy earlier same problem/request  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6386  read the directions i added to it at top09:05
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naliothglobe: the trick is: DESELECT all the unwanted resolutions (leave only one resolution)09:05
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garrymarcelc Wow!! sounds awesome. I think you would have to change a compile option in the kernel under usb gadgets09:05
XiCillinanybody get dual monitors to work?09:06
garryNalioth Ok, thanks, I'll man pastebin09:06
XiCillinwith an nvidia card?09:06
naliothgarry: not a man. it's a URL09:06
pashawXiCillin,   i told you yes09:06
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=== GTroy is what I'm working on... with a Maxtor card
marcelcgarry, it appears there is no support for my chipset :(09:07
pashawXiCillin,  youll want to add the twinview options in xorg.conf09:07
XiCillinyou had to add things to your xorg.conf right?09:07
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  it crashes to the "Busybox" shell again.09:07
No1VikingAre there any instructions how to updrade to Dapper Drake?09:07
XiCillinthats it? pashaw?09:07
pashawJeeves_moss,   its your raid setup  id bet09:07
aaqym#pekalongan09:07
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  sudgestions?09:07
pashawXiCillin,  its a start  1 sec09:07
XiCillink09:07
naliothNo1Viking: yes, but we don't suggest it for production boxes09:07
marcelcAdapters with older Intellon chipset version (A1) run under Linux.09:07
globepashaw: thanks--I'll look into that09:07
marcelcThe new Intellon chipset versions (51X1 and 5200) are not supported under Linux for the moment.09:08
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pashawJeeves_moss,   google  your raid setup and software see if you find any hints09:08
garrymarcelc Ouch.09:08
GTroyI have an undefined device in xorg.conf....help!!!!09:08
Jeeves_mosspashaw:  ok, thanks.  I'm going to bed.09:08
marcelcI wondered if anyone could point me in the direction of asking someone to write a driver. They have all the Windows driver source on their site, but no one has written a driver for this.09:09
pashawJeeves_moss,    good luck   hope you find the problem09:09
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  if all else fails, I'll install RedCrap09:09
Madpilotmarcelc: you might start by filing a bug @ bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:09
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Jeeves_mosspashaw:  thanks again.09:10
marcelcMadpilot, This is not a bug. It is a lack of driver situation. You can't have a bug if you don't have the software, right?09:11
Madpilotmarcelc: yeah, but the lack of the software is itself a bug, isn't it?09:11
kestasin this context bug means something which someone should fix09:11
pashawXiCillin,   here is my current xorg.conf    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6408   the section i posted is what youll need to change09:11
garryOk, I put a file called garrysexamplexorg.conf in the pastebin. if you can't find, let me know and I'll send it as text. I did a drop and paste and it seemed to work.09:12
XRaycan some one help me. I have Ubuntu on a 10gig hard drive (and I need more space ) I want to use 60 gigs partition of my other harddrive for ubuntu. Which is the best way to set this up.09:12
Madpilotmarcelc: "enhancement" bug reports are OK too09:12
XiCillinthanks pashaw ill take a look09:12
paulproteus|laptgarry sex ample , garry? (-;09:12
marcelcok09:12
marcelcI'll take a look.09:12
naliothgarry: tell us the URL to the pastebin, please09:12
garrysec ..09:12
garryfile:///home/garry/Desktop/garrysexamplexorg.conf09:13
paulproteus|laptXRay: I suggest you use the 60 gig partition as /home and leave the 10 gig partition the way it is.09:13
paulproteus|laptXRay: Do you know how to do that?09:13
paulproteus|laptXRay: I suggest this because it's the easiest thing to set up.09:13
XRayI guess you change the new partition using fstab09:13
XiCillinalright i'm going to try it out09:13
naliothgarry: only YOU can access that URL09:13
garryhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6409 is this what ye need?09:14
HeartBTI am wondering if anyone knows of a script or applet that helps with wireless roaming?09:14
paulproteus|laptXRay: Right, plus you have to move your data over to the new partition.09:14
XRayKewl OK thanks for that.. I will do that09:14
garrynaloith or do I need to search the pastebin for the file i sent and give out that url?09:15
naliothgarry: yes, thank you09:15
garryok, sec ...09:16
paulproteus|laptXRay: Great!  Be sure to make /home *not* FAT32.  It must be a native Linux filesystem like ext3 or reiserfs, otherwise a few things will break.09:16
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chromeygood evening ya'll09:16
naliothgarry: you need to copy and paste your item into the entry field on the pastbin09:16
naliothgarry: all that is there is a internal link to your desktop09:16
xxenonI have 2 ext3 partition on a disk. Is it possible / dangerous to merge them ?09:17
garryok, copying and pastng the text.09:17
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Nik--is it silly to install Windows and Ubuntu on the same drive different partitions?09:18
twystednope its not09:19
twystedjust make sure you install windows then ubuntu :)09:19
Nik--right09:19
twystedbut not silly at all09:19
paulproteus|laptxxenon: Merging them would be hard.  There's no automatic way to do it.09:19
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intelikeyanyone know anything about using lilo or grub in place of BIOS to boot a cdrom ?      i can't even find a doc on it on jewgle.com/linux09:19
garrynaloith Ok, I pasted the text, it seems to be there, do you see it? I don't remember who needed it tho.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641009:19
paulproteus|laptintelikey: Ultimate Boot CD recommends a way to do that, iirc.09:19
intelikeypaulproteus|lapt got a link on hand ?09:20
xxenonpaulproteus|lapt - okay09:20
mebaran151it fils in the department field with a single colon and adds a blank webpage09:21
mebaran151what can I fix it with09:21
Nik--what happens if i want to format and reinstall the Windows partition? would Ubuntu have to be formatted and reinstalled as well, or would the bootloader just have to be reinstalled?09:21
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naliothgarry: if you type nal<TAB> you'll get my nick right every time09:21
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twystednik-- u would just have to reinstall grub since windows being reinstalled takes over the MBR09:22
garrynalioth Nice completion macro. Thanks! Did you get that text ye needed?09:22
ilba7rNik-- only the boot loader will need to be reinstalled09:22
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joshua7hello09:22
joshua7does the default ubuntu install come with a cd burning program ?09:22
paulproteus|laptintelikey: For Ultimate Boot CD?09:22
paulproteus|laptubcd.sf.net, iirc09:22
naliothgarry: what problem are you having now?09:22
Nik--all right, thanks09:22
garrynalioth none, was asking if you can see the text of that example xorg conf file.09:23
naliothgarry: i see it just fine09:23
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joshua7does the default ubuntu install come with a cd burning program ?09:23
chromeyjoshua7 : http://www.ubuntuguide.org09:23
joshua7please09:24
chromeyyou will find info there09:24
intelikeyi'm looking on sourceforge now.  ah paulproteus|lapt i'm on dialup i can't dl a cd just for a doc09:24
joshua7i really neeed a quick answer09:24
ardchoillejoshua7: you can install graveman, it's in the universe repo09:24
garryHmmm, globe is gone, I hope he got that example he needed.09:24
joshua7thats why i came here09:24
nalioth!ubuntuguide09:24
ilba7rjoshua7 you can always install a cd burner even after default inst09:24
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead09:24
paulproteus|laptintelikey: I just mean it's on the website.09:24
paulproteus|laptjoshua7: I use k3b09:24
paulproteus|laptfor burning.09:24
joshua7k09:24
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Nik--lol09:24
naliothchromey: please dont advise the ubuntuguide in here, it is rather out of date and breaks ubuntu09:24
chromeyhow out of date is it ?09:25
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naliothjoshua7: disregard ubuntuguide09:25
garryNice to know. No good passing out fossilized docs.09:25
joshua7ok09:25
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chromeyhow do i get kde and install it ? i really don't care for gnome09:26
garryI remember, my first linux mistake, besides waking up that morning. I had set up slackware, just the way I wanted, spent all day, then I used gzip to back it all up. I did not know that it deletes the files after compacting, and yep, I packed up and deleted the entire hard drive contents, directories and all.09:27
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naliothchromey: it was written for warty warthog, and hasnt been updated too much since then09:27
chromeyk09:27
intelikeychromey apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:27
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pashawchromey,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:27
chromeyi tried that09:27
benoithello09:27
_TomBis there a command to see the size of the swap?09:27
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twystedchromey if its installed then at the login screen choose kde/kubuntu from the sessions menu then login09:28
benoitanyone wanna help a newby install a wireless card in a compaq laptop?????????????????09:28
garrySynaptec package manager, it works fine, should be under some heading like gui towards the bottom. I have both KDE and Gnome, it worked like a charm.09:28
intelikey!tell chromey about repos09:28
pashaw_TomB,   top   or free09:28
_TomBok thanks09:28
eppim having problems with kdevelop... it wont compile my apps...09:28
liableintelikey: you cant boot from cdrom and want to do an install from grub?09:28
benoitPllllllllllllllllllleeeeeaaaaaaassssseeeeee09:28
ilba7rbenoit it is something like hell to do soo. Hope it is not a broadcom card09:28
benoitit is a broadcom card09:29
chromeyi get09:29
chromeyE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:29
chromeyE: Unable to lock the list directory09:29
garryIf you can back up your files irst, I would do that, some folks have had unexpected effects. No need risking data loss.09:29
ilba7r!ndiswrapper09:29
ubotundiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper09:29
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naliothbenoit: please don't be annoying09:29
intelikeyliable yes.  how do you use grub to boot the install cd ?09:29
eppchromey, did u type sudo before apt?09:29
ilba7rbenoit follow the guide ubotu gave i would recommend also gtkwifi. Was the only my card would work :(09:29
naliothchromey: please dont paste in here (see the /topic)09:29
pashawchromey,   make sure  synaptic is closed  if your using apt-get CLI  an use sudo09:29
naliothchromey: you need to close all your apt instances or use sudo to start your apt-getting09:30
liableintelikey: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html   works with grub too..09:30
GTroyerror parsing the config file, and no screens found..... o_009:30
vbgunzCan someone help me remove a path from my system? I accidently added a path with '2' forward slashes :(09:30
benoitThe only problem is that i don't understand the instructions i was given09:30
intelikeythank you liable09:30
naliothvbgunz: just edit it with a text editor09:30
liableintelikey: doesnt boot the install cd, but boots the install kernel..09:30
chromeyi did close all. and put sudo in front of it: i get the following.09:30
chromeyReading package lists... Done09:30
chromeyBuilding dependency tree... Done09:30
chromeyE: Couldn't find package kunbuntu-desktop09:30
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vbgunznalioth: where is it stored?09:30
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naliothvbgunz: ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile ~/.profile09:31
vbgunznalioth: ok, thanks!09:31
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garryOuch vbgunz, I did something like that myself using export. I logged out, and back in or rebooted and it was back to normal.09:31
naliothvbgunz: maybe /etc/bash.bashrc09:31
ardchoillenalioth: when you get a chance, you're gonna have to teach me how you get people to leave with "requested by naioth". This would be a big help to me in ##gnome.09:31
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garryWhat I installed was called KDE, kubuntu desktop might not have been part of it. The synaptec handled all the dependances for me too.09:33
vbgunzgarry: I set the path like so: PATH=$PATH:/home/vbgunz/pythonscripts ... After logging out this path won't "stick"? I would have to define it again?09:33
benoitwhat does it mean to issue a lspci??09:33
chromeyi just installed this o/s a few ago so i'm new to it. so bear with me here a few09:33
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lmcclintockThis may be a basic q, but in etc/rc*.d, what do the #'s stand for, the order in which to start?09:33
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naliothchromey: please dont paste.09:33
garryvbgunz Yes, there is a way to make it stick, but I can't recall the command. It can be found via man export09:33
ilba7rvbgunz to have the path automatically loaded you have to add it to your .bashrc file09:33
eppi am getting an error when i try to compile an app in kdevelop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641109:34
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ilba7rnalioth i though ubuntu do not read the .bash_profile file and everything has to be in .bashrc09:34
vbgunzoh ok, so PATH=$PATH:/home/vbgunz/pythonscripts is temporary?09:34
vbgunzI would use export if I wanted a PATH to stick?09:34
vbgunzcool :)09:34
SturgeonIs there a program that allows me to configure how much resources i want to spend on the visual stuff09:35
Nik--is the Ubuntu installer any good at resizing NTFS partitions?09:35
naliothilba7r: i have no idea how vbgunz has his box setup, i'm just covering some possibilitys09:35
Sturgeonin gnome i mean09:35
naliothNik--: yes it is.09:35
Sturgeonother than just choosing a theme09:35
lmcclintockNik--, I've done it sucessfully several tiems09:35
ilba7rok nalioth :)09:35
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Nik--ok great, thanks :)09:35
SturgeonLike, configuring it so that it wont show the contents of windows when they are being moved, for instance09:35
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Sturgeonanyone knows?09:36
twystednik-- just make sure you defrag before resizing09:36
garrywow, cool. I didn't know that, figured if linux could not safely write to ntfs, it could not resize it. Just learned something. :)09:36
eppanyone familiar with kdevelop?09:36
chromeyok fine i will paste my errors and ask questions in the forum maybe i get answers there.09:36
twystedgarry something new every day :)09:36
ardchoillenalioth_zZz: Thanks and have a good night :)09:36
HrdwrBoBgarry: it can write, just not with the default kernel driver09:37
garrytwysted yep.09:37
cyphaseis nautilus going to have tabs in dapper?09:37
Nik--will do, i want to make sure i do this right as this is my primary machine09:37
ilba7rchromey paste in the pastebin and ask your question here09:37
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eppanyone familiar with kdevelop and/or c++ compiling?09:37
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liableintelikey: further reading.. (this *should* work same for ubuntu, not tested though) http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.en#usb-copy-easy09:38
merrillSpeaking of Dapper, will they be able to fully support S3 Savage?09:39
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intelikeyok09:39
garryHrdwrBoB yeah, I heard something about that, said it wasn't quite safe or limited I guess things changed.09:39
eppcan anyone help me?09:39
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GoRoDeKanyone tried initng on dapper?09:40
garryDozens of folks here, likely somone can and are willing.09:40
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HrdwrBoBgarry: nono, that's with the default kernel support09:40
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Smoked1I just installed ubuntu for the first time.09:40
garryHrdwrBoB yep, I caught that.09:41
Smoked1I was never presented with an option for root password.09:41
eppSmoked1, good for you!09:41
HrdwrBoBgarry: you can use other methods09:41
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Smoked1 about root09:41
eppcan anyone help me?09:41
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nalioth_zZzepp: if nobody answers you, it's cuz nobody knows09:41
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell epp about repeat09:41
eppok09:41
merrillc++ ?   for kernel compiling?09:41
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intelikey!tell Smoked1 avout root09:41
sampanwhat's the gnome equivalent of kontact?09:42
Nik--install XP, defrag, resize partition with Ubuntu installer, create swap, create installation partition, install Ubuntu... is that all there is to it? anything else i should know?09:42
ilba7rsampan what does kontact do?09:42
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sampanilba7r  personal info manager (addresses, emails, phone #s, IM nicks, etc.)09:42
guanacois there a good and easy web mail application to add to postfix?09:43
seliniumintelikey, Are you from Transilvania? ^^^^09:43
selinium!tell Smoked1 about root09:43
intelikeyselinium ?09:43
ilba7rsampa i set all that in evolution which is a mail client too09:43
seliniumintelikey, look at your last post...09:43
intelikeyare you ?09:43
ilba7rmail server sorry soo sleepy by now09:44
selinium:)09:44
sampanilba7r  k, that's kinda what i suspected, but since i don't use gnome i wasn't sure09:44
garryIronically, after installing KDE, kontact and konkerer and a number of other KDE specific apps show up in gnome and kde. I tried the browser, it worked. Dunno bout kontact09:44
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intelikeywhat avout it ?09:44
guanacoLINUX RULES09:44
seliniumintelikey, lol :)09:44
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seliniumguanaco, indeed it does!09:45
ilba7rif kontakt is the application with kmail i think it worked with me but that was long time ago do not know if it will work now09:45
intelikeywell the stinking keys are too close to gather.....09:45
GTroyhey again, (and thanks for NOT answering me) no kidding, how do you turn on xinerama?09:45
garrykontact don't work under gnome even tho it shows. fyi.09:45
guanacoI'm been using MS for a while, but I'm in the process of migrating O:)09:46
Smoked1I am not liking this sudo thing.09:46
tuvi've a sony vaio laptop with Fn key. i can't get its codes to assign actions to it when hit with another key. i learned about sonykeyd but cannot find it anywhere on the web.. any ideas?09:46
seliniumintelikey, indeed they are, Some times it looks like I have been hammering the keyboard with a pound of sausages!09:46
merrillI migrated about 7 mths ago09:46
liabletuv: tuxmobil.org09:46
guanacocool09:46
nalioth_zZzSmoked1: it takes a bit of gettin used to, but it does everything you will need to do09:46
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garryI got confused with Sudo myself. When it asks for the password, I thought it wanted the root password. What it wants is your regular user account password strangely enough.09:47
Chousukegarry: it's not strange after you get to know what sudo does.09:47
garryChousuke yep.09:47
Smoked1I know it can be set back to use su but it suggests against it09:47
seliniumSmoked1, THe reason you dont have linux viruses is because the user doesn't have access to the root, If you were to become infected, your PC would be fine, you would create a new user and delete the old. Job done.09:48
Chousukeselinium: the user's files might reside in $HOME though.09:48
merrillonce I learned what Sudo was short for the command made sense to what it does09:48
Chousukewhich the virus would be able to remove.09:48
seliniumChousuke, True ! :)09:48
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Chousukebut there's a good solution: use a shell script to lock/unlock your work folder.09:49
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Smoked1I'll give this a shot. I was also wondering why it installed gnome instead of kde.09:49
Chousukelocking it to 000 or something, and unlocking giving you permissions on it again :)09:50
mebaran151it fils in the department field with a single colon and adds a blank webpage field09:50
mebaran151I would like to stop those fields from sync'ing09:50
mebaran151otherwise09:50
mebaran151it's been very good09:50
mebaran151Evolution fills in those fields I mean09:51
mebaran151(I also want the sync to go both ways...)09:51
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seliniumMOrning ompaul :)09:54
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Smoked1I am a bit confused. Why did the install not create seperate volumes for /usr and /var and why gnome?09:55
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seliniumSmoked1, ? Are you looking in the root directory?09:56
Smoked1Sorry, I have always used freebsd from the command line. Installing linux so that I don't have to have windoz on my laptop.09:56
ilba7rsmoked1 there is a special download for kde Kubuntu09:56
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intelikeywhy would it make seperate partitions and as for gnome.  well that is the default on ubuntu and redhat.   kubuntu has kde09:57
Smoked1what do you mean why? That is just how linux has always been09:57
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intelikeyno it isn't09:57
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liableSmoked1: ubuntu is gnome by default, kubuntu is kde, if you want seperate partitons for stuff, then you can pick advanced partitioning..09:58
intelikeyyou could have set it up that way by choosing to manually partition the disk09:58
liableSmoked1: or manual..09:58
liablei should say..09:58
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liableSmoked1: you can still install kde and purge gnome :)09:59
Smoked1I see. Usually I am presented with it. New to ubuntu.09:59
Smoked1I suppose just having a / is ok and won't hurt anything. How do you do it liable?09:59
Smoked1I'll give gnome a try.10:00
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ilba7rSmoded having one partition make it more flexible to size requirements for /usr and /var and others10:00
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone10:00
fangoriousso anyone using network-manager (as officially packaged in breezy)?10:00
liableSmoked1: i dont run a mission critical server so just a seperate /home is fine for me, or all on /10:00
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intelikeythe old days of having to make many small partitions because the so couldn't handal a filesystem of large size are over.   but if you want to make other partitions you can and just migrate the info to them.10:00
SturgeonHow do I close gnome whithout it starting again automaticall?10:00
Sturgeony10:00
fangoriousSturgeon: do you mean gdm?10:01
intelikeySturgeon sudo killall gdm10:01
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intelikeyfangorious yes i assume he means X10:02
Smoked1intelikey: will that drop you to a CLI?10:02
intelikeyyep10:02
Inf3ctedFxSturgeon: do u want to go to console?10:02
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Dashivaeh10:02
Smoked1I think he wants to booy to the console and launch gnome from a command line10:02
Smoked1boot10:03
Dashiva/etc/init.d/gdm stop is more elegant10:03
Inf3ctedFxI believe so10:03
SturgeonInf3ctedFx: yeah10:03
fangoriousDashiva: but 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop' is the debian/ubuntu way ...10:03
intelikeynot without sudo it's not10:03
Inf3ctedFxSturgeon:  do ctrl+alt+F110:03
HeartBT_alright, now that it's getting to be a PITA, any recommendations for a new wifi card? preferrably with a LoPro antenna?10:03
Sturgeonbut that gets me again to gnome10:03
Sturgeonit just restarts it10:03
Sturgeonoh, F1?10:03
SturgeonThat gets me to a virtual console10:04
Inf3ctedFxto get back Sturgeon  do ctrl+alt+f710:04
SturgeonI want X to stop10:04
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fangoriousSturgeon: when you log out of gnome, assuming a default config, you would go back to gdm, not back 'into' gnome10:04
intelikeysudo killall gdm10:04
liableSturgeon: /etc/init.d/gdm stop   *will* do it10:04
Inf3ctedFxok log off from GNOME then alt+backspace I believe  it is or ctrl+backspace10:04
Sturgeonliable: ok thanks10:04
fangoriousSturgeon: the stuff about killing gdm (as described by intelikey, Dashiva, and me) will put you at a console when you log out of gnome, rather than gdm10:04
SturgeonInf3ctedFx: nah, ctrl alt bkspace kills X but it restarts automatically for some reason10:05
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Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone here use the VMware Player?10:05
ompaulSturgeon, that is because it is a daemon it stays alive10:05
Inf3ctedFxSturgeon:  ok so what liable  said.10:05
fangoriousSturgeon: hitting ctrl+alt+f[1-6]  will also give you a console, without logging out of gnome or killing gdm, and you can get back to gnome or gdm with ctrl-alt-f710:06
intelikeySturgeon it restarts because 'gdm' is running.  kill it and x don't restart.10:06
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Sturgeonfangorious: yeah, i know10:06
fangoriousSturgeon: k, just trying to cover all the bases10:06
Sturgeonok, i'll do that. Thanks.10:06
Sturgeonto all :)10:06
tux-roxAnyone running Dapper Drake?10:06
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Inf3ctedFxOK ppl, i'm following this howto -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275&highlight=hoary+breezy10:07
Inf3ctedFxI want to know If I have to install VMPlayer first or if is not necessary10:08
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petzhas any1 tried bearshare with wine?10:09
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fangorioustux-rox: are you looking for reviews before trying it, or having a problem with running it?10:09
EddieDaManhello all!10:09
EddieDaMan= )10:09
fangorioushowdy10:09
EddieDaManhappy new years eve!!!10:09
kevinzwhat does the ubuntu logo beside package name in synaptic package manager indicate?10:09
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tux-roxfangorious, Looking to hear what issues others might be seeing, as I want to try it out. I'll get to having problems I am sure.... :-)10:10
Dashivathat it's in the main supported repository10:10
kevinzDashiva,  could you explain it a little bit? I don't quite understand the difference.10:11
Dashivawell10:11
nalioth_zZzkevinz: official package10:11
Smoked1ubuntu install was like the debian install.10:11
Smoked1is it based on debian?10:12
Dashivaubuntu has a core set of software that it actively offers support for, think of it as officially supported corporate software10:12
EddieDaManI'm running ubuntu 5.10 and play streaming wma files with totem xine with w32codecs. The thing starts up, but then the stream seems to stop and the wma clips i view freeze. What should i do?10:12
Dashivauniverse and multiverse offer packages that aren't officially supported10:12
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DashivaEddieDaMan, try mplayer10:12
nalioth_zZzSmoked1: yes it is based on debian source (debian binaries are mostly incompatible)10:12
kevinzoh i see. So although some of the packages has ubuntu in it's version name, they are not officially supported?10:12
liableSmoked1: um, yeah, the installer is the one and same..10:12
lukasahoj lidi10:12
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EddieDaMandashiva, how do i make it default for websites?10:12
DashivaEddieDaMan, install mplayer-plugin10:13
Dashivaand remove the totem-firefox plugin10:13
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Dashivathe totem-firefox plugin is bugged10:13
painkilerhey guys10:13
painkilerquick question10:13
painkilerhow do i change from gnome to kde?10:13
petzlog out10:13
Dashivakevinz, they are but they aren't...forum people or people here would help you out, but you couldnt' call canonical10:13
EddieDaManhow do i remove the totem-fire fox plugin and how do i install the other?10:13
painkileri am used to a kde environment10:13
petzlog into gnome10:13
petzpainkiller doyohear=10:14
DashivaEddieDaMan, use synaptic and just search for 'firefox' and 'mplayer'10:14
painkilerand well, the gnome isnt doing it for me10:14
fangoriouspainkiler: install kubuntu-desktop, select kdm, log out, log in10:14
benoitcan someone help me with an error with sudo modprobe ndiswrapper that im getting10:14
Seveaskevinz, if a package has an -xubuntuy version, that only means that it differs from the debian package10:14
nalioth_zZzpainkiler: click 'sessions' at your login screen10:14
petzbut it must be installed10:14
fangoriouspainkiler: you might need to specify kde as the session type when logging back in, though10:14
painkilerwhere can i find kubuntu-desktop?10:14
EddieDaManthanks10:14
nalioth_zZzpainkiler: in the repos10:14
painkilerok10:14
fangoriouspainkiller, in the main repo10:14
ilba7rbenoit is the error invalid driver10:15
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kevinzoh i see. Thanks.10:15
painkilerand what exactly is repos?10:15
benoitoperation is not permitted10:15
binkslo all10:15
liable!fgi gift+file+sharing10:15
ubotuliable: I give up, what is it?10:15
liableoops10:15
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garrypainkiler, log out, hit the word session and it will give you a choice of which GUI to start when you log in.10:16
binksis there a way to find out why my 80 gig hdd has only 31 free in mu breezy install ie where are all the files10:16
Inf3ctedFxquestion, how can I find out which version of gcc do I have install?10:16
GTroyhmmm, how do I go from clone to span with dual heads? anyone know?10:16
ilba7rsudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper to install or sudo modprobe -l ndiswrapper to see if it is already installed10:16
painkilerok10:16
Inf3ctedFxGtroy let me show u10:16
painkilerthanx10:16
garrywelcome10:16
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benoiti will try that thank you10:16
intelikeygcc --version  ?10:16
GTroyInf3tedFx: I would really appreciate it!!!!10:17
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Inf3ctedFxGTroy:  in the seccion Device where ur video card is, add this line -->  Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo"10:17
fangoriousgarry: of course, that assumed painkiller already had kde installed10:18
binksis there a way to search ubuntu like xp to find large files so i can free up some space cheers10:18
GTroyok hold on :D10:18
EddieDaMandashiva, is the plug in different from mozilla-mplayer? Can't seem to find one separate from that. And that is already installed.10:18
Inf3ctedFxGTroy:  at the bottom on Section "ServerLayout" add this: --> Option "Xinerama" "On"10:18
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benoitthanks ilba7r, turns out it must of been already installed cause it's there when i list it10:18
garryfangorious yep I know someone was asking how to do that earlier.10:18
ilba7rbenoit ure welcomed :)10:18
sam_what means '~/.folder_name'10:19
DashivaEddieDaMan, it shouldn't be10:19
EddieDaManhmm....10:19
Dashivajust remove the totem plugin and reinstall the mozilla-player one10:19
binkssam its the path to folder your after10:19
fangorioussam_: the '~' means your home directory10:19
intelikeysam_  do    ' ls -lAsh  '10:19
EddieDaManwhat is the sudo apt command for that?10:19
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benoiteveryone cross their fingers for me i think it's gonna work!!10:20
binkswhen i apt are the files kept or deleted once installed10:20
intelikeydeleted10:20
GTroyInf3tedFx: yeah, anything else to do?10:20
Inf3ctedFxgo ahead and try it.. if it doens work let me know GTroy10:20
fangoriousanyone using network-manager?10:21
GTroyok, GREAT!10:21
intelikeybinks if for some odd reason they are not deleted  they will be in  /var/cache/apt/packages    i think10:21
Inf3ctedFxHow can I find out which version of gcc do I have?10:21
paulproteus|laptInf3ctedFx: gcc --version10:21
paulproteus|laptInf3ctedFx: i.e., "you ask it"10:22
Inf3ctedFxohh oks10:22
intelikey<intelikey> gcc --version  ?10:22
Inf3ctedFxthx paulproteus|lapt10:22
binksits just i have an 80 gig hdd with only 30 free and only about 10 gig i can vouch for10:22
ilba7rintelikey to remove them from the cache you use the option clean with apt-get10:22
intelikeytimes like that are what time stamps are for10:22
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binkslike u mean apt-get clean10:23
ilba7rexactly10:23
ilba7rman apt-get and you will find it there10:23
intelikeyilba7r venella   sudo apt-get install blah   auto cleans iirc10:23
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GTroyInf3tedFX: shut off one of my monitors10:24
EddieDaMandashiva, how do i unstall the totem mozilla plugin without uninstall the whole thing = /10:24
GTroymaybe I should dpkg the thing?10:24
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EddieDaMancan't seem to isolate it10:24
Inf3ctedFxGTroy:  let me show u my xorg I use 2 monitors with 2 video cards10:24
Dashivawhat else does it want to uninstall with it10:24
Inf3ctedFxalso GTroy  let me show u a howto10:24
GTroyinf3tedFX: i only have one video card10:25
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Inf3ctedFxGTroy:  check this one --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors   or if u want u can check this one also --> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/files/xorg.conf10:25
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GTroyok cool10:25
cyphaseIs Dapper going to have a default feed reader?10:25
Inf3ctedFxI use those and it work pretty good10:25
ilba7r!venella10:26
ubotuilba7r: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:26
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ilba7rthought i am the only one who did not understand what that mean10:26
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Inf3ctedFxGTroy:10:27
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EddieDaMandoes anyone else have the same problem where wma files freeze on totem xine?10:28
EddieDaManwhen streaming10:29
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EddieDaMananyone at all?10:31
diemexwhy my cd dosen't come out when i use ubuntu ???10:31
diemex:((((10:31
benoitDarn it didn't work10:32
mustard5diemex, you on gnome?10:32
ilba7r!gtkwifi10:32
ubotuNo idea, ilba7r10:32
mustard5diemex, right click on the CD icon and choose eject10:32
ilba7rbenoit go to the ubuntu forums and search for gtkwifi10:32
mustard5!info gtkwifi10:32
ilba7rmake sure that you have the right driver though10:32
diemexi tinik i'm in gnome10:33
benoitwhat is gtkwifi10:33
diemexi don't really know what gnome means10:33
Dashivawhy10:33
mustard5dieman, gnome is the type of desktop you have10:33
Dashivait's the gnu object model environment10:33
ilba7r3-rd party project affiliated with ubuntu10:33
mustard5dieman, do you see the CD icon on your desktop?10:33
diemexmustard5: works man, thanks10:34
mustard5dieman, k :)10:34
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petzdiemex you can eject cd by entering eject hdc or whatever it is10:34
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garryor right click and choose eject10:35
ilba7rbenoit it will make it easier for you to manage your wireless card10:35
diemexby the way it's diemex not dieman10:35
petzand you can close it by entering eject -t hdx which is fun, too10:36
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diemexbut when i press the button on my cd-rom , the cd dosen't come out :(10:36
garryEddieDaMan, I see the following instructions for making wma files work install mplayer-plugin and remove the totem-firewall plugin it's buggged. I don't know if that is correct, so if you can be ready to reinstall if you have to.10:36
petzdiemex that happens to me sorry I dont know why10:37
garryIF Dashiva is still here, he would know better than me I think.10:37
mustard5diemex, its supposed to be that way10:37
intelikeypetz or limit the speed with eject -x ##10:37
petzbut using commands should always work diemex10:37
Dashivathat's what i'm saying10:37
mustard5diemex, thats how it works in linux10:37
Dashivayou need to get totally rid of it and go to mozilla-plugin10:37
Dashivaor10:37
Dashivamozilla-mplayer or whatever it's called10:37
diemexi didn't know that10:37
mustard5diemex, if the device is mounted you have to explicitly choose to eject it10:38
petzintel limit rotation speed?10:38
garryyou have to programatically eject it, thanks Dashiva.10:38
intelikeyyep10:38
EddieDaManthank you10:38
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EddieDaManhow do i totally uninstall totem?10:38
petzintel including unlimit? coz I've no idea why my dvd is slow as hell10:38
rob1hahaha10:38
EddieDaMan3rd day using this os10:38
rob1have fun with that10:39
intelikeypetz read the manual10:39
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petzeddie with synaptic, its easy10:39
Dashivayou don't want to remove totem itself, only the plugin10:39
diemexi saw that you have that option , but i wanted to eject cd with my finger , pressing the button on hardware10:39
diemex;)10:39
diemex:D10:39
petzintel its used but ta10:39
intelikeyman eject10:39
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intelikey that one10:39
petzdiemex that does not compute :-)10:39
mustard5diemex, I would think it would work if the devices wasn't mounted...but it usually auto mounts10:39
petzintel thanks10:40
intelikeynp10:40
petzintel but i probably won't understand10:40
EddieDaManthe problem is that i can't seem to isolate the plugin10:40
petzeddie you've lost me...10:40
diemexyes i think was mounted10:40
HeimdallHi, I'd like to uninstall azureus but it is not in synaptic :/10:40
EddieDaManhow do i remove just the plug in, i can't find it in synpatic10:41
intelikeyHeimdall how did you install it ?10:41
diemexmustard5: do you have skype?10:41
DashivaEddieDaMan, did you search for it10:41
mustard5diemex, yes10:41
EddieDaManyes10:41
petzwell any1 want a coffee? I'm getting myself one.10:41
Heimdallintelikey, I don't remember, I suppose from a package on the website, if it is not in synaptic :/10:42
intelikeyHeimdall how did you install it ?10:42
Dashivathe full name seems to be totem-xine-firefox-plugin10:42
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Dashivaall one word10:42
EddieDaManokay, thanks10:42
garryOk, I checked it otu EddieDaMan. I went to synaptic package manager and uses search totem and it found three references. then you can look for that package Dashiva mentioned. None said plugin that I recall, but one did say gstreamer. Lemme look again. brb10:42
EddieDaManthanks garry10:42
Dashivathough i do have non-standard repositories10:42
garryEddieDaMan welcome10:42
Dashivaso if it's not there just install mozilla-mplayer and you should be fine10:42
EddieDaManthanks dashiva10:43
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diemexpetz : do you have skype?10:43
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Heimdallintelikey, would you say it is enough just to remove the folder .Azureus ?10:44
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intelikeylesson in packages.  it you install third party packages out side of dpkg then you have to remove them that way also.    if you build a tarball with ./configure make make install  then delete the install directory you're just kinda stuck with it.  but if you don't delete the build dir  use  make uninstall usually works10:44
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liableor make -n and delete manually :)10:45
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intelikeyHeimdall prolly not10:45
petzdiemex it's not kinda working10:45
penguinzdrmy microphon doesn't work. i enabled it on kmix, but still doesn't works. what should i do?10:45
diemexpetz : why not?10:45
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Nik--i have an A64 processor, should i use the x86 version of Ubuntu or the A64 version? i don't care about 64 bit and would prefer not to use it10:45
Heimdallmake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.10:46
intelikeyliable like  rm `make -n`    :)10:46
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petzdiemex dunno. I'll give it a try, just a sec. but I probably can't help ya anyway?10:46
kruemmelhey10:46
mustard5Nik--, more stuff will work with the 386 install10:46
kruemmelcould somebody please tell me what chmod he has on the files in /etc/ppp/peers/*10:46
mustard5Nik--, so yeah..go for the 38610:46
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Nik--but the x86 version will work with my hardware, right?10:47
penguinzdrhow can i make my mic work?10:47
mjrNik--, with x86 you'll lose a bit of speed and gain, if you call it that, easier x86 proprietary software usage (including flash and restricted video/audio formats)10:47
mustard5Nik--, yeah10:47
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penguinzdrargh10:47
Nik--i tried the AMD64 livecd version and got a bunch of errors, i'm guessing it's because of my X800 card10:47
kruemmelany1?10:47
petzdiemex: synaptics running. could take a while, like  a quarter hour10:47
mustard5penguinzdr, check that you have it all set up correctly?10:47
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diemexpetz 4 what?10:48
penguinzdrmustard5: i enabled it on kmix. what other should i set up?10:48
mustard5penguinzdr, are there any switches that might be off?  Is it plugged in the right spot?10:48
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mustard5penguinzdr, is the mic still muted?10:48
EddieDaMangarry, dashiva: reinstalling mozilla-mplayer didnt' solve the problem10:48
petzdiemex for what what? is synaptic running? or until its finished?10:49
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penguinzdryeah i think so *checking is it plugged on the comp" no it's not muted10:49
diemexpetz : what is synaptic ?10:49
penguinzdrbut it just not works!10:49
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petzdiemex ah the synaptic package manager. what desktop environment r u using?10:50
mustard5penguinzdr, does it definitely work?10:50
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petzdiemex well basically its a gui for installing programs10:50
penguinzdrmustard5: yes, it works on winboze, but not on linux10:50
garryClosest I saw was a file called mozilla-plugin-vlc10:51
mustard5penguinzdr, I would think it would be something quite simple then10:51
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knotty_ian2005hey10:51
knotty_ian2005i need a help10:51
intelikey!info nesses10:51
mustard5penguinzdr, if its functioning in windows it should function in linux10:51
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knotty_ian2005i just bought a tv tuner card...10:51
ice-tgood morning10:51
knotty_ian2005for laptop10:51
diemexpetz : ok , that's over me , i'm just at the beginnings of using ubuntu , i don't  have a quest about useing ubuntu ;)10:51
penguinzdrhm... maybe it doesn't work only in firefox...10:51
mustard5penguinzdr, I'm not familiar with the KDE interface, so I can't help much10:51
knotty_ian2005i dont know how it will work10:51
mustard5penguinzdr, you asked in #kubuntu?10:52
penguinzdrhow can i test it?10:52
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penguinzdryes, i asked10:52
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intelikey!info nessus10:52
ice-thow unsafe is captive ntfs?10:52
ubotunessus: (Remote network security auditor, the client), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 620 kB10:52
mustard5penguinzdr, have you turned the recording volume up?10:52
petzdiemex then what? are you using kde or gnome?10:52
intelikeyhelps if i spell it right10:52
penguinzdrmustard5: yes, on 100%10:52
diemexi belive it's gnome10:52
EddieDaManhas anyone succeeded in make mplayer default for playing wma streams?10:52
EddieDaManfor ubuntu 5.1010:52
mustard5penguinzdr, I'm at a loss then10:53
knotty_ian2005how can i use my tv card in ubuntu?10:53
mustard5penguinzdr, there doesnt seem to be any obvious reason why its not working10:53
deFryskEddieDaMan, install w32codecs10:53
ice-tcan somebody tell me if it is very dangerous if i use captive ntfs?10:53
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you could use xawtv10:53
EddieDaMandeFrysk; have alreayd done that10:53
EddieDaManit plays a little10:53
penguinzdrmustard5: please recommend me sound recording program to test it10:54
EddieDaManwhen i use totem10:54
mustard5knotty_ian2005, does it show up as detected?10:54
petzdiemex well it's the same anyway. if you press alt+f1 you should be able to find the synaptic somewhere10:54
EddieDaManbut i can't make mplayer be my default player10:54
intelikeymust not be in hoary....10:54
intelikey!info nessus hoary10:54
mustard5penguinzdr, I don't know what they have in KDE10:54
intelikeyah it's not.10:54
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knotty_ian2005it's a pcmcia tv card...i don't know if it's detected10:55
penguinzdrmustard5:  than say something for gnome10:55
knotty_ian2005will u help me from zero10:55
knotty_ian2005please10:55
EddieDaManare there any bettter messenger progams other than gaim for ubuntu?10:55
garrydmesg might tell you if it was detected.10:55
ilba7reddiedaman do you open a file on your hard disk with it. or are you using it as a plugin in in firefox10:55
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intelikeycardctl10:56
penguinzdrreturn10:56
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, hmmm..well I was fiddling around quite a bit to get mine working :)10:56
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EddieDaManilba7r; plugin for firefox10:56
knotty_ian2005ok10:56
painkilerhey guys10:56
painkilerquestion10:56
knotty_ian2005so how will i know if it's detected?10:56
ilba7rthere is a config in firefox let me see if i can remember it10:56
intelikeyhello chalcedony10:56
knotty_ian2005i am just new to ubuntu...so i am really dumb10:56
EddieDaManilba7r, totem freezes midstream10:56
painkilerhow do i make a external cd drive defalut cdrom10:56
mustard5knotty_ian2005, type lsmod in terminal and look for some references that might have to do with your tv tuner10:56
painkilerand how do i un mnt a cd drive?10:57
mustard5knotty_ian2005, somewhere in the output you should see a reference to it if the drivers have been loaded10:57
EddieDaManilba7r, i'm trying to make mplayer my default wma streaming program10:57
Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone knows where can I donwload the Windows version of QEMU to run with VMware?10:57
garryunmount same as eject.10:57
painkilerhow do i eject then10:57
ardchoilleHappy New Year everyone :)10:57
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knotty_ian2005i see this mustard5 knotty_ian2005, you could use xawtv10:57
Inf3ctedFxits not really happy 4 me :(10:57
garryif yous ee an icon for it on your desktop, right click, and choose eject.10:58
intelikeygarry eject calls umount before opening the drive10:58
knotty_ian2005i see this pcmcia_core            44932  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic10:58
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knotty_ian2005does it mean it was detected?10:58
painkileri just want to remove the drive from systm10:58
petzdiemex but i recommend you try kde and xcfe just so that you know what you're missing and to know the alternatives. i didnt like gnome10:58
EddieDaManilba7r, but i don't know how to find, uninstall, or overrride totem mozilla plugin with mplayer10:58
mustard5knotty_ian2005, is that what it is called?10:58
chalcedony(((( Zhadow ))))10:58
Zhadowhey chal10:58
deFryskEddieDaMan, remove the totemrelated files from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/10:58
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garryIntelikey yep.10:59
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you used the pastebin before?10:59
mustard5ubotu: tell knotty_ian2005 about pastebin10:59
EddieDaMandeFrysk how do i do that?10:59
deFryskEddieDaMan, and sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer10:59
ardchoilleHappy New Year everyone :)10:59
EddieDaMani have already done that10:59
knotty_ian2005no10:59
deFryskEddieDaMan, rm path/to/blah/blah10:59
mustard5knotty_ian2005, check the PM from ubotu about the pastebin...go there and copy and paste the output from your lsmod command10:59
deFryskEddieDaMan, use sude10:59
EddieDaManic10:59
deFrysksudo10:59
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I'll have a look over it10:59
EddieDaMank, one sec11:00
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No1VikingIs Dapper fairly stable or is there alot of bugs in it?11:00
painkilerso how do i get a secondary cd drive to become primary11:00
mustard5No1Viking, its not stable11:00
painkilerbecause atm, terminal is using cdrom11:00
painkileri want it to use cdrom011:00
mustard5No1Viking, it could break at any time during development11:00
deFryskNo1Viking, fairly stable for non crucial systems11:00
ilba7redidiedaman you can also try typing totem plugin in the search in synaptic will give you two packages which you can uninstall, one for totem-xine the other for totem-gstreamer11:00
No1VikingSo for homeusers wiithout servers it ok?11:01
Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone knows where can I donwload the Windows version of QEMU to run with VMware?11:01
knotty_ian2005what player can u suggest? TV PLAYER11:01
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, xawtv11:01
jrsimsI LIKE UBUNTU! WOOHOO!11:01
knotty_ian2005i couldn't find it11:01
intelikey!warez11:01
ubotuwarez is probably found on 127.0.0.1, so go there and download all you want.11:01
deFryskNo1Viking, ok if you like a challenge and some risc11:01
knotty_ian2005where can i download xawtv in the apt-get11:01
mustard5knotty_ian2005, your probably need to enable extra repositories for synaptic11:01
mustard5!repos11:01
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource11:01
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painkilercan someone answer my question?11:02
mustard5knotty_ian2005, go to the links provided by ubotu above for adding repositories11:02
deFrysk!someone11:02
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:02
TrackilizerIs there anyway to make Nautilus the default file manager in XFCE?11:02
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knotty_ian2005ok...i forgot to update it11:03
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, k11:03
EddieDaMandeFrysk; eddie@ubuntu:~$ sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/11:03
EddieDaManPassword:11:03
EddieDaManrm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/': Is a directory11:03
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deFryskEddieDaMan, nooo11:03
EddieDaMan?11:03
EddieDaMan3rd day using this11:03
painkilerso how do i get a secondary cd drive to become primary?11:03
ilba7reddiedam man wait11:03
mustard5EddieDaMan, you'll destroy stuff doing it that way :)11:03
intelikeypainkiler two ways, one is more likely to stay the way you put it than the other.   swap the symlinks in /dev/   or edit /etc/fstab  and swap the mount points11:03
deFryskyou need to remove the totem related files in plugins11:03
EddieDaManLOL11:04
EddieDaManomg11:04
EddieDaManhehe11:04
ilba7reddiedaman you are going to remove all your plugins this way including java plugin11:04
EddieDaManglad it didn't work11:04
EddieDaManHAHA11:04
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deFryskEddieDaMan, do cat /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/11:04
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EddieDaManhehe11:04
garryYeah, and it can be a mess. :)11:04
diemexpetz :  how could i use kde if i only have gnome on ubuntu?11:04
deFryskEddieDaMan, and see wich ones they are11:04
acphi happy holidays!11:04
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intelikeypainkiler i'd edit fstab11:04
ilba7rdefrysk you mean ls right for this is a directory not a file?11:05
knotty_ian2005seen it mustart11:05
acphow do i update my kernel?11:05
knotty_ian2005thanks11:05
mustard5knotty_ian2005, it should install scantv too11:05
deFryskls is ok too11:05
garrydiemex, you would have to use synaptec to download kde.11:05
acpto 2.6.14?11:05
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, you will need to use that from the command line to scan for channels11:05
deFryskEddieDaMan, there shout be two totem-blah files in it11:05
EddieDaMandeFrysk, is that exactly what it ype?11:05
deFryskshould11:05
knotty_ian2005what command line?11:05
acpapt-get ?11:05
deFryskEddieDaMan, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/11:06
deFryskand check11:06
cyphase#freenode-newyears @ irc.freenode.net11:06
mustard5knotty_ian2005, in your applications>>accessories menu if you are on Breezy Badger..its called the 'terminal'11:06
intelikeyacp wait a few months and upgrade to dapper11:06
EddieDaManahhhh11:06
EddieDaManic11:06
knotty_ian2005i know terminal11:06
acpi need it now for my modem to work11:06
EddieDaMani have a list11:06
mustard5knotty_ian2005, well that the command line interface11:06
EddieDaMannow what11:06
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EddieDaManhehe11:06
knotty_ian2005i have opened the app already and i only see blak11:06
diemexand how will i download kde?11:06
knotty_ian2005i am stupid sorry11:06
knotty_ian2005he he he11:06
diemexfrom where?11:06
mustard5knotty_ian2005, check if scantv is installed too11:07
painkilerthe how do i get terminal to stop asking me for cdrom when i only have cdrom011:07
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EddieDaMandefrysk; flashplayer.xpt       mplayerplug-in-gmp.so   mplayerplug-in-wmp.so11:07
EddieDaManlibflashplayer.so     mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt  mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt11:07
EddieDaManlibjavaplugin_oji.so  mplayerplug-in-qt.so    mplayerplug-in.xpt11:07
EddieDaManlibtotem_mozilla.a    mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt   nphelix.so11:07
EddieDaManlibtotem_mozilla.la   mplayerplug-in-rm.so    nphelix.xpt11:07
EddieDaManlibtotem_mozilla.so   mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt11:07
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you need that to tune in the channels11:07
ilba7reddidaman past the list in the pastebin if you can11:07
EddieDaManlibtotem_mozilla.xpt  mplayerplug-in.so11:07
knotty_ian2005yeah it is11:07
EddieDaManditto11:07
acpim tryin to make my modem work im using R50e thinkpad11:07
garrydiemex, use System/adminstration/synaptec package manager and search for KDE.11:07
intelikey!tell diemex about repos11:07
ordinaryhey thanks11:07
diemexgarry do you use kde in ubuntu?11:07
mustard5knotty_ian2005, k..well type man scantv into terminal and have a bit of a read of the manual11:08
painkiler!tell me about repos11:08
deFryskEddieDaMan, dont flood please you might get kickbanned11:08
acpis there a guiu way to upgrade kernel?11:08
garrydiemex yes11:08
mustard5knotty_ian2005, that will give you an idea of what it does11:08
intelikey!tell diemex about synaptic11:08
EddieDaManoops, sorry11:08
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knotty_ian2005ha ha ha11:08
ordinaryi love ubuntu.  i love you for making it better11:08
EddieDaManilba7r, where is the bin?11:08
EddieDaManlol11:08
knotty_ian2005thanks...but how can i search channel?11:08
ilba7reddiedaman you can del the libtotem plugins11:08
knotty_ian2005is xawtv the best one yet?11:08
ilba7r!tell eddidaman about pastebin11:08
diemexand you all are useing kde in ubuntu ???11:08
painkilerthe how do i get terminal to stop asking me for cdrom when i only have cdrom0?11:08
mustard5knotty_ian2005, its the easiest11:08
mustard5knotty_ian2005, other ones are more complex to install11:09
deFryskEddieDaMan, remove the libtotemfiles11:09
EddieDaManwith what command?11:09
deFryskfrom the pluginsfolder11:09
EddieDaManplease11:09
deFryskrm11:09
pharcydepainkiler: what is asking you for cdrom11:09
baroslwhat is global version of "~/.gtkrc-2.0"?11:09
garrydiemex You search for KDE in synaptec package manager. If it don't show, you need to enable repositories, its take a bit of menu searching, but its there. then search again.11:09
knotty_ian2005ok...the manual is so little, how will i tell the program the my source is pcmcia11:09
ilba7reddiedaman safest way cd to the plugin dir11:09
painkilerim trying to install kubuntu-desktop, and well it wants the cd11:09
deFryskEddieDaMan, rm /path/to/libtotemblahblah11:09
ilba7rand sudo rm them one by one11:09
painkilerand so i put it in the cd11:09
painkilerbut i only have cdrom011:10
mustard5knotty_ian2005, if linux has detected it, it will know11:10
painkilerand it asks for cdrom11:10
velenohello. i want to avoid sound modules to be loaded at boot. http://veleno.pastebin.com/485151 are the modules i want to inhibit. any help ?11:10
pharcydepainkiler: edit your /etc/apt/sources11:10
mustard5knotty_ian2005, it will be listed as a device /dev/video11:10
intelikeypainkiler you didn't see the privet message from ubotu ?11:10
garrydiemex it will download it or you after youa re done marking packages, there are a lot of them under kde, and then it installs them for you.11:10
painkilerok11:10
knotty_ian2005if not?11:10
diemexi've found kde , but are many kdes11:10
pharcydeand comment the cdrom line11:10
pharcydeand make sure ur apt repos are setup11:10
mustard5knotty_ian2005, if its not detected automatically then you are in trouble :)11:10
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knotty_ian2005how will i know if its listed? thanks for the patience11:10
diemexi don't really know wich to download11:10
deFryskilba7r 's suggestion is good EddieDaMan11:10
painkilerno11:10
Flying-Penguinhow do I play sound through wireless headphones? (bluetooth)11:10
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, its not that straightforward to set up :)  I took me quite a while when I first started learning about linux :)11:11
knotty_ian2005i know11:11
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I wrestled with it for quite a few weeks :)11:11
thegladiatori was trying to copy text from a javascript page to oepnoffice by slecting the text and copying it into office . once i paste the text into pffice , it just hangs11:11
knotty_ian2005how old are u?11:11
diemexkdeaddons  ???11:11
mustard5knotty_ian2005, 4111:11
knotty_ian2005i am a windows baby ha ha hathat's sad11:11
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garryyes, all that says kde.11:11
knotty_ian2005u r in IT industry>11:11
mustard5knotty_ian2005, no11:12
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, I'm just another tv tuner card user :)11:12
knotty_ian2005woew...when i tried scantv, there was no philippines in there11:12
knotty_ian2005what will i do?11:12
mustard5knotty_ian2005, hmmm....11:12
painkileroh yeah, how do i enable root?11:13
garrytry to get from a non-multiverse 0r non-universe repository, you wouldn't want a kde for say some distro that isn't ubuntu or kubuntu if you can help it.11:13
painkileror just give me a link11:13
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I'm not sure11:13
EddieDaMandefrysk, my permission was denied >.<11:13
pharcyde u can sudo11:13
painkileryeah i know11:13
pharcydesudo passwd11:13
painkilerbut i need a root11:13
pharcydefor what?11:13
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painkilerjust general gui access for clients11:14
deFryskEddieDaMan, use sudo11:14
EddieDaMank11:14
twystedpainkiller do NOT run gui as root11:14
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binks im just d/l kde for me ubunutu system gonna change to kde why i dont no im bored11:14
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painkileri wont be on the internet11:14
garrythe password part is where you enter your user password. Sudo allows you to do many things as if you were root, but not lots of system wreckin things.11:14
cyphaseAUTO: Join #anything instead of #freenode-newyears. I won't mute anyone :P11:14
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painkilerwell can i enable more privages11:14
painkilerfor my normal user11:15
painkileri just want to be able to edit text docs with out having to treminal11:15
mustard5knotty_ian2005, what frequency table do you think it might use?  take a guess..maybe its none :)11:15
pharcydesudo editor file11:15
HeartBTpainkiler, sodo gedit filename.11:15
XRaycan some one help..  I have a 10 gig ext3 for my linux and Im running out of space. I just created a 40 Gig ext3 hda7. To move the Home folder to the 40 gig location I need to edit fstab. How do I do that to make sure I did the right thing and how do I do it while still using the home folder  Thanks11:15
Mabus06Can somebody give me suggestions as to why my wireless mouse is not working anymore? When I hit the buttons on the reciever and the bottom of the mouse to calibrate it, the light doesn't blink like it's supposed to.11:15
garryheart beat me to it.11:15
HeartBTgarry, hehe11:16
Mabus06They're in the same positions that I had them working correctly for a while.11:16
knotty_ian2005i don't know11:16
Mabus06howdy, mustard511:16
pharcydepainkiler: if u really want to enable root then sudo passwd root11:16
knotty_ian2005ntsc maybe11:16
knotty_ian2005i tried it11:16
mustard5knotty_ian2005, scantv -a scans all frequencies11:16
knotty_ian2005and it wouldnt work11:16
pharcydechange it to what u want11:16
mustard5Mabus06, hey mate :)11:16
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, thats what the manual says anyway11:16
Mabus06mustard5, do you know how to get dual video working with an ati card? People told me to buy Nvidia, but with my last experience, I had to go ATI.11:16
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Mabus06No funky hotplug subsystem stall with this one...11:17
garryYet as someone so well said, if you forget to get out of root, connect to internet, and get a virus, it can do anything it wants to do because it will be root too.11:17
mustard5Mabus06, I wouldn't have a clue mate....ATI is probably worse than nvidia I would think11:17
Mabus06Would you have a clue where I could look?11:17
mustard5Mabus06, ummm....not offhand11:17
garrygoogle for ati ubuntu. I remember seeing something about a fix or new ati driver. Good luck.11:18
Mabus06Well I have the driver, garry.11:18
Mabus06But I just don't have the dual video part.11:18
garryMabus06 Hmm, and it still doesn't work?11:18
mustard5knotty_ian2005, also just doing the scantv is not the whole process..you need to actually save it to a config file in /home directory for you user11:19
knotty_ian2005hey mustard,  i installed another app but it wont show in the applications11:19
mustard5knotty_ian2005, which app?11:19
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garryMabus06 Stumped.11:21
EddieDaMangarry, defrysk, ilba7r, thank you, it works now11:22
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knotty_ian2005are kde apps can be used in breezy?11:22
ilba7rgreat, enjoy :)11:22
knotty_ian2005i found this kdetv and i suppose it will work11:22
garryGrats eddie, Eddie says thanks to defrysk ilab7r. He got his mplayer working.11:22
EddieDaManthanks to you guys = )11:23
EddieDaManhappy new years !!!11:23
thegladiatorkde apps can be used with ubuntu ofcourse11:23
thegladiatorhappy new year guys11:23
mustard5Mabus06, is this relevant? http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html#SECTION00012100000000000000011:24
mustard5Mabus06, down the page a bit11:24
mustard5Mabus06, I also got some hits on some threads in the ubuntu forums11:24
garryMabus06 So you have this Ati card with one connector, so when you say you want to do duel video, you mean that you have two monitors connected to a switch going to the one card vga port?11:24
thegladiator!restricted11:24
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:24
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I have no idea how kdetv works11:25
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thegladiator!freeformats11:25
knotty_ian2005ok11:25
ubotuhmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:25
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you'll be on your own on that one :)11:25
knotty_ian2005ha ha ha11:25
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knotty_ian2005i have a question11:25
EddieDaManhey garry, is there a better messenger program than gaim?11:25
knotty_ian2005again11:25
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, k11:25
happycampertagchen11:25
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knotty_ian2005how can i make red messages for you?11:25
knotty_ian2005just for you11:25
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you type my nick at the start11:25
happycampercolor is baaad11:25
mustard5knotty_ian2005, type the first few letters and then hit the TAB key11:26
knotty_ian2005mustard5, cool11:26
mustard5knotty_ian2005, thats red for me :)11:26
ilba7reddiedaman i use qnext if i am not using gaim but it is java based so not in repos. you can use skype for voice chat11:26
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garryEddieDaMan not that I am sure of. I've been thinking of trying licq. Gaim seems to be only for instant messenger, and it claims to work for icq and maybe others like msn, but the plugins are not included.11:26
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  i just bought this smart tv card, too bad its from taiwan and i had to return the pixelview coz it got problem11:26
mustard5garry, gaim will work with ICQ by default11:27
JDahlhave anyone got DVD playback in kaffeine working? I install libdvdcss2, but kaffeine keeps giving the error message "Could not read title information for DVD"11:27
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  this tv card is for my laptop , a pcmcia one, that i chose11:27
HeartBTgarry, I use gaim for icq.  it works fine imo.11:27
yintelikeMem usage: 30.6/61.1 MB (50%)     hehhe i love this distro  :)11:27
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, well I would try looking for how others did it in the ubuntuforums and also use google11:27
yintelikeand i'm talking to you within kde11:28
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I did lots of reading and then finally got it working on xawtv11:28
garryEddieDaMan There is also goim wiich is suppposed to be for instant messenger. Hmm. I could never find the part to enter my icq number, and it choked on my apostrophe in my icq name. It doesn't like those.11:28
mustard5knotty_ian2005, it took a lot of mucking around11:28
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  i am not satisfied with what i am seeing, ( in windows) and its11:28
happycampergaum, too11:28
ilba7rJdhal try reinstalling kaffeine i think it looks for the plugin in when it is first installed. If it is not working totem is always there11:28
happycampergaim11:28
jrsimsexit11:28
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  kinda flickery, i tried to connect it on our cable tv cable and it's still flickery11:28
EddieDaManthank you11:28
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  do u think it's my laptop that's the problem or the tv card itself11:29
JDahlilba7r, also if kaffeine is installed via apt? or do you mean compile from source?11:29
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, well I would visit the manufacturers site for that type of information..somtimes its a motherboard issue11:29
HeartBTgarry, wait, apostrophe?  since when does ICQ allow anything but a number?11:29
Mabus06gary no, this card has a vga output, a dvi output, and an svideo output11:29
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I have lines down mine due to problems with my motherboard and this tv tuner card11:29
Mabus06garry I mean11:29
mustard5Mabus06, did you see that link ?11:30
ilba7rjdahl i assume you installed libdvdcss2 after installing kaffien. i mean reinstall kaffiene from repos so it can find the new plugins and libs11:30
Mabus06I will in a bit, mustard511:30
mustard5Mabus06, k11:30
Mabus06My mouse isn't working right now, gonna go acquire another.11:30
garryI got two replies. I have had an apostropie on my work machine's icq for ages, its windoze.11:30
Mabus06can you msg me that url maybe, mustard5 ?11:30
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knotty_ian2005mustard5,  that's the first thing i did, look for the website but sadly their website is just a piece of bubble gum, what can u expect from taiwanese (sorry)11:31
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, :)11:32
garryAnyone have luck getting dork ages of camelot dorkness rising, to run under wine/cedega?11:32
mustard5knotty_ian2005, they have no english version of the page?11:32
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garryI got it to walk for awhile then it fell on it's face.11:32
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knotty_ian2005they do but it's too little info..they were just selling11:33
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garryI need a linux utility to make it stop raining here. it's been raining so long I just pullled out a duck feather from my leg and my toes are starting to web.11:33
HeartBTgarry, do you also have a number and the apostrophe is in the nickname?11:33
mustard5knotty_ian2005, I don't have much idea what the answer is then11:34
garryHeartBT yes.11:34
garryHeartBT Its Al'aro11:34
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  i guess my problem now is how to tell my lappie that the source for tv is on pcmcia slot...that i dunno how to11:34
HeartBTgarry, try using just the number to connect and maybe then once connected it will allow the nick?11:35
mustard5knotty_ian2005, scantv is how you do that11:35
knotty_ian2005mustard5, it says "try playing with the config options of the v4l2 plugin11:35
garryHeartBT Yep, I'm a bit low vision, could not find the number box. I probably missed it.11:35
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, try running the v4l-conf11:36
mustard5knotty_ian2005, in terminal11:36
HeartBTgarry, ah.  you really had me confused there for a sec.  I've been using icq for jeez, ever and never seen anything but a number.11:36
garryHeartBT I think I'll go try it again now. Thanks.11:36
mustard5knotty_ian2005, type man v4l-conf in terminal for the manual11:36
yintelikegarry cat ./rain > /dev/null 2>&111:36
HeartBTgarry, np11:36
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knotty_ian2005mustard5, now it's scanning stations but found nothing11:37
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alexander_test11:37
mustard5knotty_ian2005, does it finish with any error messages?11:37
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knotty_ian2005now it doesnt11:37
knotty_ian2005it already scanned11:37
yintelikealexander_ it isn't working :)11:37
mustard5knotty_ian2005, ideally you tell scantv to save it all to a file called .xawtv in your /home/user directory11:38
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, then it actually saves what it finds11:38
bflaxhello11:38
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you could also run it with the -c and -C options manually specifying the video device and vbi device11:38
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bflaxhaving a nightmare about ice171211:39
mustard5knotty_ian2005, something like this scantv -a -c /dev/video -C /dev/vbi -o /home/yourusername/.xawtv11:39
bflaxm-audio card not wrking11:39
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, alternatively you may need to add a '0' to the end of the device names11:40
mustard5knotty_ian2005, something like /dev/video0 and /dev/vbi011:40
mustard5knotty_ian2005, if you look in your /dev/ directory you might find what they are referred to as11:41
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mustard5knotty_ian2005, you will see an icon called video or video0 and vbi or vbi011:41
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knotty_ian2005mustard5,  where can i find the apps which has already been installed but i couldn't see the icon?11:41
mustard5knotty_ian2005, run it from terminal...11:42
mustard5knotty_ian2005, type kdetv in terminal11:42
mustard5knotty_ian2005, you can go to your applications>>system menu and add it to the menu using the menu editor11:42
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knotty_ian2005i am trying tvtime11:45
knotty_ian2005now11:45
knotty_ian2005god..help me11:45
garryHeartBT well, I'll be darned. I had to enter my icq number as my screen name to get it to work.11:45
knotty_ian2005mustard5,  thanks for the help...i need to go...my mom needs me...happy new year11:46
mustard5knotty_ian2005, k :)11:46
bflaxany sound experts around?11:46
mustard5bflax, crimsun is the sound expert11:46
bflaxthx11:46
mustard5bflax, if you spot him around you might see if he is available to help11:47
xav__how can I fix a broken text file which has different encoding ?11:47
garryHeartBT Thanks. works fine now.11:47
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bflaxk, thank you mustard.11:47
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ROBOdhey guys11:49
ROBOdi got a new monitor11:49
mustard5greetings ROBOd11:49
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ROBOdand ... now i got only 640x480 @ 60hz available11:49
ROBOdhow to run monitor detection?11:49
albackerhi all11:49
xav__does anyone know a perl script or something?11:49
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xav__ROBOd: just edit xorg.conf properly11:50
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xav__ROBOd: or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:50
Inf3ctedFxI need to download the qemu-img.exe does anybody knows???11:50
mustard5ROBOd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:50
twystedrobod there is a x86config if i recall :)11:50
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Inf3ctedFxform where?11:50
twysted^5 mustard511:50
mustard5:)11:50
xav__now help me :)11:50
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twystedjust rewrite it xav__11:51
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mustard5xav__, I have no clue how to fix your problem sorry :)11:51
xav__I've a file with some characters in iso and some in utf8 (I believe)11:51
xav__I want to fix it11:51
xav__I found a perl script but it didn't fix everything :(11:52
garrymaybe try editing it, select all and search for a font setting you can change all text to.11:52
xav__you mean fixing it by hand?11:53
xav__it's a huge database dump file11:53
wizardjames!dvdrip11:53
ubotuwizardjames: What?11:53
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wizardjamesanyone know anything about dvd rip?  i cant get the rar part to work..11:54
berkesgood day,11:54
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twystedwhat do u mean the rar part to work?11:54
wizardjamesyea11:54
twystedyea?11:55
berkesI am having issues with my mySQL server. Its installed on a vanilla kubuntu (but over there no one had a clue) but fails to load. Says it cannot connect to port 3306. says that port is in use already11:55
garryIts a raryea port.11:55
Pygitwysted: what an answer to the question  :P11:55
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berkesis there a deamon or a service i should reload?11:55
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twystedeh pygi i cant answer a question if none was asked11:56
mustard5berkes, I can think of a deamon..11:56
mustard5berkes, I don't know whether it would work :)11:56
Pygitwysted: no, I am reffering to ... you asked: what do u mean the rar part to work? --- then james responded: yea :)11:56
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mustard5berkes, to restart mysqld you do a /etc/init.d/mysqld restart I think11:57
twystedpygi i was asking what he meant by it, hes not being specific11:57
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PygiI know, that's what I am telling :P11:57
mustard5berkes with sudo I would imagine11:57
twystedso what do you mean wizardjames?11:57
wizardjamesnvm twysted , i got it working, the path to rar was never set11:57
Heimdallimpossible to launch azureus ............. why ?11:58
berkesmustard5: sure. I know /that/ but if i try that too, it fails to load11:58
HeimdallI cna't find the executable file11:58
twystedheimdall did u install the JAVAVM?11:58
twysted!info java11:58
mustard5berkes, I have no real idea sorry11:58
munzirhi sirs, I created a user and put its home directory as /backup but now sudo su; su - backup won't jump to its home directory, what's wrong please?11:58
berkeslike said: it wants to connect to a port it cannot connect to.11:58
berkesseems odd to me, esp. because I am running vanilla software.11:59
Heimdalltwysted, I had azureus before it worked well, I removed it so yes I think I still have java ;)11:59
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twystedheimdall hehe gotta make sure, check any logs for azureus make sure its just not hanging in a process11:59
Irvinehow to install packages?11:59
mustard5Irvine, what package?12:00
Irvinei am new to ubuntu12:00
Irvineprozilla12:00
Heimdalltwysted, i don't understand :/12:00
mevvisirvine use synaptic12:00
mustard5!info prozilla12:00
mustard5hmm..apparently prozilla doesnt exist :)12:00
twystedHeimdall, azureus should write any errors to a log file, check out the azureus FAQ page or their wiki12:01
PeteyPabloIrvine: sudo dpkg -i name.deb12:01
mustard5Irvine, where did your get it from?12:01
Irvinedownload12:01
twystedirvine but where12:01
Irvinefrom website12:01
Heimdalltwysted, I already looked everything I could...12:01
mustard5Irvine, PeteyPablo gave the answer12:01
mustard5Irvine, you used the terminal yet?12:02
Irvineno12:02
twystedheimdall hmmm i dunno try looking for a error log12:02
ilba7rmunzir i do not know how you created the user backup but when i tried to create this user i was prompted that i can not do so I think this name is used (reserved) by ubuntu12:02
mustard5Irvine, go to your Applications>>Accessories menu12:02
twystedirvine what web site did u get the deb file from and was it for debian or ubuntu12:02
mustard5Irvine, open the 'Terminal'12:02
PeteyPabloIrvine: Applications - accessories12:02
Irvinethen12:02
TrackilizerIs there anyway one can make Nautilus the default file manager in XFCE?12:03
PeteyPablotype sudo dpkg -i name.deb12:03
Heimdalltwysted, the problem is not tha azureus does not work, it is that I can't find the executable file12:03
mustard5Irvine, type in sudo dpkg -i whateverthepackageiscalled.deb12:03
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HeimdallI cant' launch it12:03
twystedheimdall oh lol12:03
Heimdallbut it works, the first time after the install it launched well12:03
twystedheimdall you try logging out of gnome and logging back in to see if gnome generates a shortcut for it in your menu?12:03
munzirilba7r, no I called the user rdiff-backup but it's home directory is /backup12:03
mustard5Irvine, btw..what directory did you save it to?12:04
Heimdallbut then I cant find how to launch it, the script in /usr/local/bin/azureus wasn't correct12:04
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hydroksydeGreetings from 2006 all12:04
ilba7rmunzir it works fine with me here12:04
wizardjameswhats a good writer..  for wriiteing php12:04
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PeteyPabloHeimdall: usr/bin/azureus12:04
wizardjames2006..anyhing new?12:05
Heimdalltwysted, no it didn't, there was just my old short cut I did myself long time ago, but "azureus" command (to /usr/bin azureus I suppose) does not work anymore12:05
Irvinemustard:desktop12:05
HeimdallPeteyPablo, no...12:05
dnIs it possible to force X to use a 1600x1200 even if X says it's not possible?12:05
twysteddn> i wouldnt advise it12:05
twysteddn> you can damage your monitor12:05
mustard5Irvine, then you need to either cd ~/Desktop or put Desktop/ in front of the package name12:05
xav__wtf is this character :  ?12:05
HappufIs it problem for mounting that my windows driver is sda1?12:05
dntwysted, I know that th emonitor can handle it - and even the monitor displays "1600x1200 is the best solution" :)12:06
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mustard5Irvine, by default the terminal is pointing to your /home/username directory12:06
twysteddn> what refresh rate are you trying to use though12:06
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mustard5Irvine, so it won't know the package is on Desktop12:06
HeimdallPeteyPablo, there is no such file :/12:06
PeteyPabloHeimdall: open terminal, type which azureus12:06
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dntwysted, 30-81 and 56-75 (from the manufactors page)12:07
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ilba7rmunzir did you check who owns the directory /backup12:07
HeimdallPeteyPablo,12:07
Heimdall/usr/local/bin/azureus12:07
dntwysted, (I got the monitor running with the same settings on an other pc)12:07
HeimdallPeteyPablo, but this is a WRONG script :)12:07
PeteyPabloHeimdall: i'm not sure why it's installed their.12:07
twysteddn> hmm only thing i could suggest doing is playing with the refresh rate so you can use that rez, and are you using breezy?12:07
fangorioushow do I set cpu throttling and performance profiles in gnome?12:07
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Irvinethen how to install azureus?12:08
HeimdallPeteyPablo, because it is written in it : /usr/local/share/azureus/azureus and there is no so such file12:08
thoreauputic!azureus12:08
ubotuazureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo12:08
Pygiirvine: well, what seems to be the problem?12:08
dntwysted, yes - hmm okay will try that - wondering why one pc with the same settings can do it and the other not..12:08
Pygiirvine: do you have java installed?12:08
Irvineno12:09
Pygi!java12:09
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:09
Pygi!javadebs12:09
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/12:09
fangoriousIrvine: you'll need a jre12:09
twysteddn> its hard to say why, the xserver could be just being stupid12:09
MadpilotHappy New Year, everyone - early/belated/ontime, as appropriate! Good night, see you later.12:09
Pygilook at the things ubotu told you...12:09
Irvinehow to download jre?12:09
Pygigee, irvine, ubotu told you :)12:09
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mustard5Irvine, look at the messages above from ubotu12:09
Pygilook up12:09
dntwysted, hmm, any suggestions where to search and ask? (it's even the same xserver software)12:09
dnso maybe the gfx *hmm*12:10
twysteddn> wow really weird then, it can be the gfx, more then likely is12:10
dntwysted, gfx is working with windows and the screen - so we can narrow it down to the linux drivers (nvidia) :)12:10
Mabus06How do I find out the maximum refresh rate, vertical sync rate, and size of my monitor? I tried googling the model number on the back but it yielded nothing.12:10
twysteddn> BUT if the other system it runs on is windows you have to realize windows is alot more lax with that kinda stuff and damanges your equipment12:10
twystedmabus06 contact the company who made it or sold it to you12:11
intelikeyMabus06 monitorworld.com  maybe12:11
dntwysted, it work with my laptop (ubuntu)12:11
Pygiirvine: got it?12:11
munzirilba7r, ok I did it like this:  sudo useradd -d /bakup bakup; sudo su - bakup, do this work for you?12:11
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Mabus06twysted, couldn't find their corporate website, and I bought it second hand at a store about 24 hours drive away.12:11
twysteddn> just hard to say, play around with it12:11
fangoriousis there a gnome panel applet to set CPU throttling?12:11
kestasis ubuntu missing out on developer man pages? like man pages describing C functions like malloc and stuff12:11
fangoriouslike the klaptop stuff?12:11
dntwysted, oki, thanks - time to restart X :) thanks for the help12:11
intelikeyi have  a question.12:11
twysteddn> yw12:12
mustard5fangorious, I believe there is something12:12
mustard5fangorious, I don't know what it does exactly12:12
intelikeydoes anyone know how to setup lilo or grub to boot a cdrom drive ?12:12
Pygikestas: yup, doesn't have ma pages for malloc...12:12
kestasnm found them12:12
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Mabus06nope, not there intelikey12:12
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fangoriousmustard5: I've found one that displays the current CPU speed and performance profile, but it doesn't let me set them, or configure automatic settings based on ac/battery12:13
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mustard5fangorious, actually it looks like its just a monitor12:13
kestasintelikey, the only way grub can boot a CD is if you're using floppy/CD grub12:13
intelikeyMabus06 your monitor is not listed ?12:13
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fangoriousmustard5: yeah, I think that's the one i've got12:13
fangoriousmustard5: i started it and saw my laptop running at 1.3 GHz instead of 2, and couldn't figure out how to change it (being on ac power)12:13
fangoriousseems to have upped itself to full speed, but I have no idea what triggered the throttling changes12:14
intelikeykestas lilo can,  i remember reading something about it a while back but i cant find anything on it now.....12:14
mustard5fangorious, I see this in synaptic gnome-cpufreq-applet12:14
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dntwysted, :-) got it - locked the vertfreq to 60 .. and now its running smooth:)12:15
twysteddn> awesome12:15
mustard5fangorious, it says something about being able to 'set' in the description12:15
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dntwysted, tooked me ~1.5hrs and was kinda obvious :)12:16
dntook :)12:16
ilba7rmunzir ok will try that on my ubuntu box booting it now12:16
kestasintelikey, I'm only familiar with grub so I cant help there12:16
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fangoriousmumbles: yech, that one wants to uninstall 'gnome-applets gnome-applets-data ubuntu-desktop' !12:16
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mustard5fangorious, hehehe..thats not good12:17
munzirilba7r, thanks a lot for your help. please there is a -d option to create the directory12:17
fangoriousmustard5: i'll just stick with monitoring for now, i guess12:17
mustard5fangorious, funny..mine doesnt show an conflicts in the description12:17
munzirilba7r, it should read: sudo useradd -m -d /bakup1 bakup1; sudo su - bakup112:17
Inf3ctedFxDanmm I need the Windows version of QEMU!!! someone knows where can I get it?12:17
mustard5fangorious, ah..ok..gnome-applets lists the conflict12:18
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fangoriousman, it just dropped down to half ... i'm going to have to spend some time working on this.12:19
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CioNhey all what's a good burning software for ubuntu?12:19
ilba7rmunzir yu did not set a passwd for the bakup user12:19
intelikey!burner12:20
munzirilba7r, yes I don't want to12:20
ubotuintelikey: Not a clue12:20
phos-phorosCioN, k3b12:20
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ilba7rmunzir and you do not need sudo su -bakup just su - bakup12:20
CioNphos-phoros works good on Gnome?12:20
intelikey!burners12:20
phos-phorosCioN, yes12:20
ubotumethinks burners is k3b, nautilus cd burner, etoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord, and others.12:20
CioNOk thx all12:21
kestashow do you limit the amount of memory a process can allocate on the heap?12:21
Pygihuh, this is C question :)12:22
kestasit's a security question I think12:22
ilba7ryou are just looged in as su this way12:22
munzirilba7r, su - bakup gives su: Authentication failure12:22
ilba7ranyway do not know but did not create the bakup directory for me12:22
munzirilba7r, use the -m swithc12:22
munzirilba7r, use the -m switch12:23
ilba7rmunzuir it only works when you give bakup a passwd12:23
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munzirilba7r, for some strange reason this trial now worked properly!! even without a password. it didn't work for you?12:24
ilba7rno did not work for me12:25
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ilba7ranyhow if it worked for than i guess your prob is solved12:26
ltibor65Hi Seveas!12:26
ilba7rwill try now to see why it did not create the direc for me12:27
munzirilba7r, yes but don't know why it sometimes work sometimes not!12:27
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kestasgot my first 5 on /. today, damn I rule12:30
ltibor65Seveas, I have a problem. I have a bash script for installing DVB devices. Where must I put the script in order to start at start-up?12:30
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ilba7rok working now for me munzir no problems12:31
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munzirilba7r, now I tried on another system (rhel) and also faced a problem: # grep backup /etc/passwd; su - backup; whoami12:33
munzirbackup:x:500:500:rdiff-backup:/backup/remote:/bin/false12:33
munzirroot12:33
munzirilba7r, definitely I am missing something obvious!12:34
ilba7rsorry munzir i won't be of help on this issue12:34
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munzirilba7r, np thanks for your trial12:34
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=== xester good day
ilba7rtake care then munzir salam :)12:35
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Mabus06nice, dual monitors finally12:37
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munzirilba7r, wow who are you?12:38
munzirilba7r, we know each other?12:38
ilba7rarabian in canada. I guess you are in the gulf area?12:38
munzirilba7r, yes you are right. happy to meet you12:38
ilba7rme too my freind but you are much more experienced in linux then me. Its a hobby for me so far12:39
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nick_nick Mabus0712:41
nick_ugh, how do I change my keyboard back to american12:41
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munzirilba7r, it would have a great future for sure so let's try to catch ;)12:48
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ilba7rmunzir trying to do so. For servers i heared freebsd is more secure have you tried that yet12:48
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hydroksydegreetings from 2006! New years poll: Which is your favorite text editor?12:49
munzirilba7r, no but i don't believe on this hype12:49
lllmanulllemacs, nano :)12:49
hydroksydeI heard solaris was more secure12:49
munzirilba7r, that could be at some point in the past but  not now12:49
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hydroksydeI like vi personally12:50
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ilba7rdo internet search you will find most use freebsd except for google the main example using linux. And sun is pretty well too12:51
HappufHow do I continue downloading with apt if I stopped it with c?12:51
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hydroksydectrl-c?12:52
hydroksyde^c12:52
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intelikey[ctrl] +C12:52
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HappufOK. Thanks :)12:53
leedHello all12:53
intelikeyHappuf idk   but  man apt-get   probably knows12:53
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ilba7rok take care munzir got to go now. Nice meeting you12:54
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HappufThen next question. How to see pid of all proceses? With terminal.12:55
mjrps aux12:55
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jeroen__hi12:55
intelikeyHappuf   top12:56
HappufThanks mjr!12:56
intelikeyerrr no that wont show all will it.12:56
intelikeybut ps will.12:56
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SillyZmornin, real stupid question here, trying to install an unbuntu .deb package.. any help?12:59
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intelikeydpkg -i12:59
SillyZused apt-get, synaptic, etc just nothing I do seems to work12:59
SillyZdpkg -i ... ok ill give that a shot12:59
intelikeyadd the path/file.deb  of course12:59
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SillyZwoohooo! Thanks Intelilkey01:00
intelikeyand prepend the sudo as needed01:00
nnonixI just downloaded and extracted firefox 1.5 and am running it from my home directory. Any reason I can't just replace my current /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox directory with the new version?01:00
SillyZaye, all is good in the world now :)01:00
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intelikeyyeah it's a shame apt doesn't do local files like urpmi does01:01
joshiHello. I need keylogger into my comp. My mom invited some stranger for party and im leaving to another party. Need to be sure he wont do something bad to my comp...01:01
intelikeyso it could pull in dependancies01:01
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paolobHi guys! Where are the ubuntu packets? I must download breezzy's kernel sources01:02
intelikey!repos01:02
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:02
SillyZhmm seems like I need to update the repisotory or something cuz im pulling older packages rather than the newer ones, prozilla for example01:02
intelikeypaolob use synaptic01:02
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paolobintelikey, I can't use synaptic, because ubuntu doesn't see my pci adsl modem, now I'm in windows and I must download ubuntu packets in order to have the modem work01:03
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SillyZis there anyway I can rsync just the i386 portion of the repository?01:04
SillyZnot the amd or ppc sections01:05
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intelikeypaolob well the  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 page should help ya find it01:05
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intelikeySillyZ ppc & amd ?    what kind of mopar box you got there ?01:06
_iGadget_hi all01:06
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SillyZintelikey, amd-1900xp+ 512mb01:07
SillyZand tons of space01:07
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_iGadget_I just upgraded an existing hoary installation to breezy01:07
SillyZbtw wheres the kernel source located?01:07
_iGadget_and now X.org won't start01:07
intelikeySillyZ well there should NOT be any ppc section01:07
RytmisHow can I check how much RAM my video card has? :)01:07
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dodobrainhi all01:07
SillyZI was noticing powerpc / ppc's in the repository01:07
dodobrainanyone here running ubuntu on Dell inspiron 510m ?01:08
_iGadget_errorlog says 'could not open default font 'fixed' ...'01:08
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intelikeyRytmis lshw  or lspci  'might' help with that01:08
dodobraini am thinking about installing ubuntu on my laptop and I have a few questions before i (try to) proceed.01:09
dodobraincan I get kde 3.5 on ubuntu?01:09
dodobraini think ubuntu is gnome based, is there an easy way to get kde installed?01:09
intelikey!info kde01:10
ubotukde: (The K Desktop Environment), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB01:10
mjrdodobrain, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:10
_iGadget_dodobrain: sure01:10
GTroydodobrain: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop01:10
GTroymjr had it right01:10
dodobrainok, cool.01:10
Rytmisintelikey: ah, lshw did it, thanks01:10
intelikeynp01:10
dodobrainsomeone was telling me about 'universe', what is this universe ?01:10
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dodobrainok, so basically its a package repository (which I can use to install additional packages)01:12
intelikeyyep01:12
_iGadget_dodobrain: righto01:12
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intelikey!info breezy01:13
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intelikey!stats breezy01:13
ubotuI haven't a clue, intelikey01:13
chemaHow can I change default program to try open DVD when I put one in the DVD?01:14
dodobrainok, if I download the dvd of breezy does it have: development packages?01:14
SillyZhow do I get the kernel source for 2.6.12-9  ... it dosent seem to be in the repository01:14
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Benjamin_Lwill we see a ubuntu version of tango anytime soon ?01:15
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ManiHello?01:16
dodobrainintelikey, what about wireless? does it support intel 2200? (i think it does)01:16
Quencherr, can someone help me, i just bridged my two eth devices, how do i set a gateway via console to a eth con01:16
Quench'/01:16
Quench??01:16
intelikey!wifi01:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto01:16
dodobraini have some rpms which are available only as rpms, will i be able to install these on ubuntu ?01:16
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intelikeydodobrain that link might answer that for you ^01:17
SillyZdodobrain, Im running a dwl-g520 and its working better under ubuntu than 4 other linux os's Ive thrown at it01:17
mjrdodobrain, you can try alien to convert them into debs01:17
ManiHrm. Which is better, KDE or Gnome?01:17
ManiSpeed-wise.01:17
SeveasMani, endless debate01:17
SillyZany ideas on this 2.6.12-9 kernel source?01:17
ManiWhat's your opinion then, Seveas ?01:17
SeveasI'm a Gnomie01:18
Quencherr, can someone help me, i just bridged my two eth devices, how do i set a gateway via console to a eth con01:18
ManiHow come?01:18
intelikeydodobrain probably can with alian but dont go saying i said you could.  it does depend some on the rpm and some on the dependancies01:18
Inf3ctedFxHey Seveas how's going?01:18
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Inf3ctedFxSeveas:  do u know where can I donwload the Windows version of QEMU01:18
SeveasMani, because imho the k in kde stands for crap, but just as many people think that the g in gnome stands for garbage01:18
Quench!gateway01:19
ubotuWish i knew, Quench01:19
Quencherr, can someone help me, i just bridged my two eth devices, how do i set a gateway via console to a eth con01:19
Seveasso you should try'em both and stick with the one you  like :)01:19
Mani:] 01:19
SeveasInf3ctedFx, no idea01:19
ManiIs there a Kubuntu Live CD?01:19
ManiI'm new to Linux.01:19
Seveasyes there is01:19
ManiDon't want to jump in too deep.01:19
Seveasbut you can install both gnome and kde on the same system01:19
Quencherr, can someone help me, i just bridged my two eth devices, how do i set a gateway via console to a eth con01:19
QuenchPLZ01:19
SeveasQuench, route add default...01:20
Seveasman route; man ip01:20
SillyZintelikey  , thanks again for all the help you have been most helpful01:20
Quenchim not reading 100 lines plz01:20
Quenchjust tell me01:20
Quenchthe format, like route eth0 IP01:20
Quenchor wat01:20
jouni__mSillyZ why you want kernel source01:20
ManiHaha.01:20
SeveasQuench, I don't know it by heart01:20
Quench!route01:20
ubotuQuench: I don't know, could you explain it?01:20
Seveasand i'm not going to read manpages for you :)01:21
SillyZjouni__ Id like to compile for a amd specific arch01:21
SillyZrather than 38601:21
ManiOoo.01:21
dodobrain /sbin/route add default gw <ip_addr_of_gateway>01:21
ManiThe multimedia keys on my keyboard work on this LIve CD..01:21
Mani^^01:21
SeveasMani, yeah, the Ubuntu team spent a lot of time getting this to work01:22
SillyZalthough 2.6.12 dosent seem to be anywhere in the repository after manually browsing around in it, and apt-get'ing01:22
intelikeySillyZ k7 ?  there is a 64 bit ubuntu already for you to dl01:22
ManiGood job on 'em.01:22
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dodobraindoes the DVD iso for breezy come with development packages ?01:22
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SillyZamd-athlon, not 6401:22
dodobrainheh, ok01:22
Seveasjust a fucking spammer01:22
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dabaRSeveas: language:P01:22
intelikeydodobrain yes i believe so01:22
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SeveasdabaR, not for such fucking spammers01:23
Seveasthat's beond the CoC :)01:23
GTroyfreenode hates em too01:23
dabaRcode of conduct speaks more about the conduct among members of the Ubuntu community.01:23
dabaRlike, be friends.01:24
ManiGotta say that Gnome does seem pretty heavy.01:24
SeveasMani, KDE is heavier01:24
ManiOh, that's nice to hear.01:24
Seveasyou could try xfce (it has no live-cd though)01:24
ChousukeThey're all heavy.01:24
ManiOr it might be this live CD.01:24
GTroy?01:24
Chousukethat, too01:24
ManiAnyone tried Enlightenment?01:24
intelikeyheavy  disk wise or ram wise ?01:24
GTroyMani: i have e1701:25
dabaR!enlightenment01:25
ubotuhmm... enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7915501:25
ManiHeavy as in sluggish for me, intelikey01:25
GTroypain in the but to get configured01:25
SeveasMani, live cd's are always sluggish01:25
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dabaRdepends on the ram amount.01:25
ManiYeah..01:25
SeveasMani, cd's are slower than harddisks, so a live system is slower than an installed one01:25
dodobrainMani, i run e17_cvs with a weekly update01:25
dabaRGB+ works fine.01:25
dodobraincompiled and installed manually ofcourse at work01:26
QuenchSeveas, help me out here, i read the man, i understand, but i cant get it to work for everything01:26
Quenchif i route google via my gateway, i can get onto google01:26
ManiHow long did it take you guys to get fully acquanted with Linux?01:26
Quenchbut how do i do EVERYTHING01:26
intelikeyMani hmmm i just closed kde here and it doesnt seem any slower than 'nome    but you probably have a lot faster system than i do01:26
SeveasQuench, dodobrain gave the exact format01:26
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ManiDid you sit down and say "RIght, I'm gonna learn this"?01:26
Inf3ctedFxI configure E7 and it was really easy01:26
Seveas<dodobrain>  /sbin/route add default gw <ip_addr_of_gateway>01:26
ManiOr did you just pick it up?01:26
dodobrainGTroy, why is config fr e17 difficult?01:26
ChousukeMani: I don't think anyone here is "fully" acquaintanted with it.01:26
Quenchi tried that Seveas01:26
Quench;/01:27
GTroyif I don't use E17 regularly I have to reconfigure it01:27
dodobrainyou using recent cvs or some ancient update?01:27
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dodobrainnew cvs has better config 'tools'01:27
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Chousukeif you mean getting the hang of basic things, including basic command line, I'd say it took me a month or so.01:27
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ManiWhat did you use to teach yourself?01:27
dodobrainQuench, were you root when you ran that command ?01:28
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:28
Inf3ctedFxI need the qemu-img.exe para correrlo con el vmware01:28
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ChousukeMani: I googled and asked stupid questions01:28
Inf3ctedFxalguien sabe?01:28
dodobrainoh boy.. floopin cowboy is back01:28
ManiYeah, I couldn't do without IRC to ask stupid questions. :] 01:28
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Inf3ctedFxcowboy__:  what r those proxys for?01:29
ChousukeInf3ctedFx: He's a spammer.01:29
Maniintelikey, what's your system?01:29
dodobrainInf3ctedFx, cowboy is a spammer!01:29
jouni__mSillyZ kernel sources are in kernel.org but I don't know if it's easiest way01:29
Inf3ctedFxohh ok01:29
ManiSpecs of*01:29
Chousukeprobably some kind of spying proxies.01:29
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:29
ManiShaddup, cowboy__01:29
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ChousukeSeveas: The spammer is back01:30
_iGadget_seveas: kick 'm! :)01:30
dodobraini have no idea how he got back in01:30
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:30
Manilol.01:30
ZambbaHey. Does ext3 file system fragmentize if I write much of files to the disk and remove some of them etc. use disk?01:30
ChousukeI don't think he was banned.01:30
Zambbavery much01:30
mjrZambba, not very much, but obviously some01:30
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intelikeyKernel: Linux 2.4 | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 134 Mhz | Mem usage: 14.4/61.1 MB (24%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(QUANTUM FIREBALL1080A): 0.6/1.0 GB (60%) | Uptime: 7 hrs 22 mins 25 secs01:30
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ChousukeZambba: no need to worry.01:31
intelikeyMani01:31
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:31
dodobrainlol.. yeah01:31
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:31
cowboy__PROXY HTTP  82.228.51.138 : 808001:31
jouni__mMani http://ubuntuforums.org01:31
dodobrainhe wasn;t banned01:31
mjrZambba, if the filesystem is very full, it gets worse01:31
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Maniintelikey?01:31
dodobraindamn you cowboy__! go away,, shoo01:31
intelikeyMani you asked    ^01:31
ManiAha.01:31
ManiMissed that.01:31
spikehdoes Ubuntu/Kubuntu have GTK+ installed by default?01:31
ManiWow man.01:31
Inf3ctedFxSeveas:  can u kick him out? is pretty anoying01:31
ManiPentium 134MHZ..01:32
dodobrainintelikey, surely that isn;t your primary machine!01:32
intelikeyand yes i run kde on that01:32
Chousukemad.01:32
Mani:D01:32
Chousuke:D01:32
ManiCrazy..01:32
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ManiSo you compiled Linux yourself?01:32
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wolfwolfgo1hello,who know what software can convert rmvb to mp301:32
ManiOr did you get a distribution or something.01:32
dodobrainoh yeah, that reminds me.01:32
intelikeydodobrain i have 7 or 8 boxes around here  this is the only one running atm01:33
dodobraincan stock ubuntu breezy install play music and video files fine?01:33
dodobraini mean mp3, etc.01:33
ManiIt doesn't do mp3s01:33
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Chousukedodobrain: mp3 and some others are restricted formats.01:33
ManiCause that's licensed or whatnot.01:33
intelikey!clc01:33
ubotuintelikey: I haven't a clue01:33
intelikey!vlc01:33
dodobrainok, are there packages for the appropriate libs anywhere for ubuntu ?01:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)01:33
ManiWhat, with no codecn.01:33
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Manicodec*01:34
intelikeymp3  ^01:34
Mani:|01:34
Chousukecan't be shipped with Ubuntu because of licence restrictions.01:34
intelikeysee the ubotu post01:34
mebsdwhat's the advantage of kubuntu if ubuntu can have kde01:34
dodobrainChousuke, so basically i have to install the necessary libs myself by hand before installing mplayer01:34
Inf3ctedFxI need the qemu-img.exe please anyone knows where can I download it?\01:34
ManiFor noobies like me, mebsd01:34
Chousukedodobrain: well, they are in universe or multiverse.01:34
dodobrainaha.. thats what i asked!01:34
dodobrain:)01:35
Chousukemebsd: kubuntu = ubuntu01:35
Mani!amarok01:35
ubotuI heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/01:35
intelikeymebsd lets turn that around too, what is the advantage of ubuntu  if kubuntu can have 'nome also01:35
Chousukejust with a different default set of packages :)01:35
ManiIs it wise to do a Ubuntu install on a Windows box?01:35
jouni__mspikeh ubuntu (Gnome) uses GTK kubuntu (KDE) uses qt by default01:35
mebsdintelikey: you mean gnome?01:35
ManiUsing it's repartioning device.01:35
Maniprogram/801:35
intelikeymebsd do you pronounce the G ?01:36
mebsdah i got it01:36
mebsdubuntu wit gnome and kubuntu with kde01:36
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mebsdboth are for newbies01:36
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ChousukeThey fit all kinds of users01:36
Chousuke:)01:36
spikehjouni__m: I see, then would I need to acquire GTK+ because I'm getting an error while compiling X-Chat "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"01:37
intelikeyevery thing is for newbee's01:37
dodobrainintelikey, i make it a point to always pronounce the 'g' in gnome :)01:37
dodobrainbut making sure also that it sounds different from genome01:37
intelikeydodobrain that's why i spell it  'nome   :)01:37
Inf3ctedFxdodobrain: me2 so dont worry lol01:37
dodobrainmore like guh-nome01:37
dodobrain:)01:37
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mebsdi promounce gnome as jee num01:37
relicgee?01:37
ManiHahaha.01:37
mebsdno, jee01:38
dodobrainhuh? the nome is 'nome' not num :p01:38
jouni__mspikeh do you have build-essential installed?01:38
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spikehjouni__m: I have absolutely no idea, it's my first time using Linux01:38
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mebsdso you guys all use gnome01:38
spikehjouni__m: I will check using Synaptic01:38
Inf3ctedFxI do01:38
intelikey    and  K D E  is not hard to say :)01:39
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ManiIf I try and install Ubuntu on Windows box, does it repartition the HD for me?01:39
spikehjouni__m: no, I do not have it installed; should I install it now using Synaptic?01:39
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Trackilizerhi01:39
relichi01:39
ChousukeEnglish pronunciation is weird.01:40
intelikeyMani yes.   now are you talking duel boot or cross over to linux from windows ?01:40
jouni__mspikeh yes if you want to compile something but there is xchat in gnome panel01:40
ManiDual boot, intelikey01:40
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_iGadget_mani: my opinion is it's best to do it manually...01:41
ChousukeYou pronounce "e" as we pronounce "ii", and "i" as we do "ai" and "a" as we do "ei".01:41
spikehjouni__m: I'm using KDE, not GNOME :)01:41
Inf3ctedFxI just trying to use the VMware but I need the qemu-img.exe in order to continue and the website has it is down :(01:41
_iGadget_anyway, brb01:41
mebsdwill there be big problem if one runs kde in ubuntu and gnome in kubuntu?01:41
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zenroxno01:41
intelikeyMani it can do that but i would sujest using windows to resize your windows partition and make free unallocated space for the linux install01:41
mjrmebsd, no01:41
Chousukemebsd: none whatsoever.01:41
Maniintelikey,01:42
intelikeyMani at least that way when you break windows you are not mad at linux  :)01:42
Mani:D01:42
jouni__mspikeh try install xchat with synaptic01:42
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spikehjouni__m: I have, but I'd like to compile it in /home which is on a  separate partition to everything else01:43
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Maniintelikey, check your query windows.01:43
melissashi ppl:] 01:43
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jouni__mspikeh ok install build essential.01:44
intelikeyMani this is bc there is no "window"  on  a console01:44
Manilol.01:44
intelikeyerrr bx even01:44
ManiCan you see my query then?01:44
spikehjouni__m: it is asking for the kubuntu 5.10 CD; I've inserted the disc and it's not being mounted (stuck on 0%)01:44
ManiPrivate chat, whatever it's called.01:44
intelikeyyour nick is not regestered mani ?01:45
melissasI've just lost the bottom application table...you know with the trash and multiple desktops...how can I revive it???01:45
ManiNope, it aint.01:45
ManiI'm just trying out Ubuntu.01:45
intelikeyyou can't pm here without it01:45
Mani:E01:45
ManiHow do I register?01:45
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intelikey /msg nickserv help01:45
ManiOh, I see it.01:45
velenohow can i install firefox 1.5 in 5.10 from some ubuntu repository ?01:46
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ManifoldThere.01:46
ManifoldKnew I had it somewhere..01:46
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intelikeyyep01:47
melissasany help???01:47
ManifoldNow you can check the query 'window', intelikey01:47
jouni__mspikeh you can take cd off from synaptic -> settings -> repositories01:47
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Inf3ctedFxHappy new Year to all of u here on this room...  I really which u guys a ahppy 2006 :)01:47
jeroen__hi all01:47
Inf3ctedFx*happy xD01:47
melissasI've just lost the bottom application table...you know with the trash and multiple desktops...how can I revive it???01:47
ManifoldNo quite,  Inf3ctedFx01:47
jeroen__happy new y;)01:48
Manifold:] 01:48
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jeroen__how are u all01:48
Inf3ctedFxis not going to be so happy 4 me, I lost my job, my girlfrind left me.. I have no money  what else can happent to me lol01:48
intelikeyManifold i told you there is no "window" on a console01:48
ManifoldLinux can betray you.01:48
intelikey[Manifold(n=ubuntu@88-104-146-98.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)]  Hello?01:48
intelikey<intelikey> yep01:48
Trackilizerahh01:48
Inf3ctedFxManifold:  I believe so lol01:48
jeroen__cool i just installed linux;)01:49
thegladiatorjeroen__, how do you like it ?01:49
melissasany help???01:49
spikehjouni__m: thanks for your help so far, I'll be back later01:49
jeroen__i donno yet bc i dont know alot about it..but it looks good01:49
Inf3ctedFxjeroen__:  is awsome01:50
jouni__mmelissas first try in terminal sudo killall gnome panel01:50
jeroen__i need all the help i can get(lol)01:50
mebsdwhat you talking about01:50
intelikeyManifold you tested it, it worked now stop beeping me.01:50
mebsdwhat's awesome01:50
dodobrainInf3ctedFx, are you in fiji ?01:50
Inf3ctedFxjeroen__:  what kind of help do u need?01:50
thegladiatorlinux ofcourse01:50
Chousuke:)01:50
Inf3ctedFxhahaha no dodobrain  I'm in USA01:50
Inf3ctedFxFlorida01:50
dodobrainthen you're a day _behind_ !01:50
thegladiatori really dont wanna use XP no more . but when VISTA comes i'd like to give a try01:50
jeroen__i want to play mp3 whove bine maked by when i owned windows..can i somehow play them;)01:50
Inf3ctedFxyes I am01:50
dodobraincome back tomorrow night when the first day of new year is almost gone for me and tell me happy new year :p01:51
Chousukejeroen__: yes you can.01:51
thegladiator!restricted01:51
Inf3ctedFxjeroen__:  use the xmms01:51
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats01:51
mebsdhow big is ubuntu installation cd01:51
Inf3ctedFxxmms = winamp on windows01:51
jeroen__what is xmms?01:51
thegladiatorjeroen__, read about restricted formats01:51
mebsdxmms > winamp01:51
Chousukemebsd: about 6-700 MB01:51
Chousukemebsd: xmms is old though01:51
Inf3ctedFxmebsd:  is the same side that regular Cd  lol01:51
thegladiatorthat is where you wud find about enabling mp3 and video stuff's01:51
dodobrainChousuke, bmp01:51
mebsdxmms 1.2.1001:51
jeroen__hehe thanks for al ur help but i can't read it all at the same time:)01:51
dodobrainBeep media player01:52
dodobrainver 2.0 of xmms01:52
Chousukedodobrain: bmp crashes.01:52
PeteyPablobeep sucks :-\01:52
jeroen__can i donload it somwhere?01:52
relicxmms +101:52
ChousukeDon't know about bmpx01:52
intelikeyManifold ask in the channel,  if you can't ask there; don't ask.01:52
relicbeep carp -101:52
dodobrainumm.. is bmp not stable ?01:52
Inf3ctedFxjeroen__:  open terminal and type:  sudo apt-get install xmms01:52
PeteyPablobmp is garbage01:52
thegladiatorjeroen__, goto restrictded formats thats the place you g forst after a fresh installation01:52
jeroen__w8 i go and look01:52
ManifoldManifold I just have some questions.01:52
ManifoldManifold The documentation says it's safe to let Ubuntu resize the partition.01:52
ManifoldManifold Can it resize NTFS?01:52
Inf3ctedFxthen check on "Aplications / Sound and Video / Xmms01:53
ChousukeI wish Ubuntu were able to ship with restricted format support :/01:53
thegladiatorInf3ctedFx, i guess he needs to know about restricted formats . also he might want to enable multiverse01:53
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ChousukeBut then they wouldn't be restricted formats!01:53
intelikeyit can but like i said eariler Manifold, windows can take care of that.01:53
Inf3ctedFxoohh u r absolutly right thegladiator01:53
dbzdeathChousuke: doesn't take much effort to just enable them01:54
ManifoldHow, intelikey?01:54
dodobrainjust use mplayer to play your mp3 / wav, asx, what have you music01:54
Chousukedbzdeath: the effort shouldn't be there :/01:54
jeroen__ok inf it asked a password is that just my inlog password?01:54
Chousukejeroen__: yes.01:54
dbzdeathChousuke: do you want ubuntu to be destroyed because of the legal rammifications?01:54
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intelikeywith the utilities that ole billy boy gave it  :)01:54
Chousukedbzdeath: of course not.01:54
jeroen__what shoot happen then inf?01:55
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jouni__many good startup guide? http://www.ubuntuguide.org was good is it still good or is it old?01:55
ChousukeI said I "wish" ubuntu were able to ship with support for them.01:55
Chousukemeaning that they should be free.01:55
Chousuke;/01:55
PeteyPabloanyone else using the snowish icons?01:55
intelikeyyes jeroen__ inlog wordpass01:56
ManifoldFound it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoPartition?highlight=%28partition%2901:56
ManifoldSorry about that.01:56
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ManifoldI'll just let Linux do it.01:56
jeroen__ive done all that but i dont see any programm start?01:56
ChousukeManifold: back up data!01:56
Chousuke;P01:56
ManifoldI have no means to.01:56
Chousuke:/01:56
ChousukeThen hope it doesn't screw up.01:57
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Chousukeit shouldn't, I guess, but you never know.01:57
ManifoldI'll just not do it until I buy that external HD.01:57
Manifold:] 01:57
ManifoldHrm.01:57
ManifoldThanks, and sorry for the bother.01:57
ChousukeHrm indeed.01:57
intelikeysafe is cheeper than sorry01:57
ManifoldI'm gonna mooch back to Windows.01:57
ChousukeI hope you will return someday01:58
ManifoldI keep doing.01:58
ManifoldI hae DSL, Elive, Ubuntu Live, SLAX01:58
ManifoldAll burned onto CDs. Been trying them.01:58
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ManifoldAdios.01:58
intelikeyManifold knoppix01:59
intelikeyooops01:59
ChousukeAlso, Dapper should ship with support for installing on external HDs, right?01:59
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jeroen__intel.. the xmms dont work i guess:(01:59
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Inf3ctedFxit didnt work?02:00
mebsdwhich live linux is best02:00
intelikeyhmmm have you looked at vlc ?02:00
jeroen__ive typed the sentance u sayd.. but nothing hapened02:00
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ManifoldONe more thing.. ^^02:00
dodobrainumm.. do you guys know when the next release is? or what it is going to be called ?02:00
raphinkmebsd: imo knoppix02:00
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intelikeymebsd prolly knoppix   but don't tell ubuntu i said that02:00
ManifoldWhen I finally do install Ubuntu, how do I choose which OS to boot?02:00
raphinkManifold: at boot02:01
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dodobrainManifold, you mean at system startup? grub or lilo02:01
raphinkyou'll have a prompt asking you which OS you want to boot, each time02:01
dodobraineither one.02:01
ManifoldWhat is that?02:01
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ManifoldWhat's Grub/Lilo?02:01
raphinkManifold: grub and lilo are boot managers02:01
raphinkthat ask you what OS you want to boot at each boot02:01
dodobrainyou can set it up so that winblows is default or linux is default after a (variable) timeout also set by you!02:01
ManifoldAnd that'll be configured when I install Ubuntu?02:02
raphinkyou can even use them with more than 2 OSes02:02
Phospherosokay... This package manager, adept, pretty cool - reminds me of how SuSE's updater used to work when I played with that years ago.   How do I change/add sources for the update severs on it? Where is it stored?02:02
dodobraini dunno. i have never installed ubuntu02:02
raphinkManifold: yes02:02
ManifoldRight, thanks again.02:02
raphinkby default Ubuntu will detect your Windows install and set grub02:02
ManifoldSayonara.02:02
intelikeyManifold it's the linux 'which system da ya want' thingy   :)02:02
raphinkdodobrain: you never installed ubuntu?02:02
jeroen__well ive installed linux but windows is still on my pc...02:02
dodobrainraphael, indeed! never installled ubuntu02:02
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dodobrainerr. raphink02:03
PeteyPabloubuntu is the rox0r02:03
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raphinkI thought you had gone as far as looking for my real name in my infos ;)02:03
dodobrainPeteyPablo, why do i get the impression that you have played NFS:U a lot?02:03
dodobrainhaha.. thats not too difiicult02:03
raphinksure02:04
jeroen__well i go and look on the internet if i can find some mediaplayer who rip the win mp3 programm02:04
PeteyPablododobrain: uhh. never played it02:04
Manifolddodobrain, it'll be called Dapper Drake02:04
ManifoldHaha.02:04
dodobrainlol02:04
raphinkDapper will rock like no distro before :)02:04
raphinkjeroen__: huh?02:05
jeroen__hey i want to thank ubunto to sent 25 cd's within 3 weeks:)02:05
intelikeyso is hoary a really really really great release ?02:05
raphinkjeroen__: unfortunately I have to say I am still waiting for my CDs02:05
jeroen__well i have some mp3 cd's but linux cant read it:(02:05
raphinkintelikey: hoary is past02:05
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jeroen__where u from raph?02:05
raphinkfr jeroen__02:06
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intelikeybut raphink is hoary a really really really great release ?02:06
jeroen__i'm from the netherlands02:06
intelikeyor not ?02:06
raphinkwhy do you ask intelikey ?02:06
raphinkjeroen__: I had guessed from your nick02:06
intelikeyi want to know02:06
dodobrainguys! when is the next approx. release date?02:06
jeroen__cool raphink:p02:06
raphinkintelikey: hoary is actually the only ubuntu release I havent' used02:06
raphinkalthough i've heard it was very good02:06
dodobraini want to order on shipit! :)02:06
intelikeywell warty then ?02:06
raphinkdodobrain: 17th april theorically02:07
jeroen__thats verry easy dodo;)02:07
relicfree?02:07
Stew_Lappyapril seems ages away02:07
jeroen__ive order them 12 dec or so02:07
relic2006 Q102:07
raphinkStew_Lappy: dapper is still open development02:07
thegladiatorany one from australia ?02:07
intelikeycause i'm looking for something that would be good on this older box raphink02:07
dodobrainjeroen__, you mean hoary ?02:07
raphinkso you wouldn't like to use it now02:07
dodobrainthegladiator, i'm in QLD now!!02:07
dodobrain:p02:07
jeroen__no but i chat with ausieo's;)02:07
Stew_LappyI know, but I want :)02:08
thegladiator:p02:08
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thegladiatorhappy new year02:08
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relic...02:08
dodobrainhaha.. you're in syd?02:08
raphinkintelikey: install xubuntu02:08
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thegladiatoryou guys are a year ahead02:08
thegladiatornot me02:08
dodobrainman, i'm an hour behind although you'er suposed to be behind!!02:08
jeroen__happy new year..it is not new year here yet02:08
raphinkintelikey: ubuntu breezy will be up-to-date and fast02:08
intelikeywould warty be really good for this box ?02:08
thegladiatoryeah i say sydney on tv :p02:08
dodobrainnah.. QLD is an hour behind sydney.02:08
thegladiatorah02:08
dodobrainso its still about an hour to go here02:08
thegladiatorhe he02:08
jeroen__9 ours here:p02:09
teprrrhmm, anyone having problems with dapper's X?02:09
dodobraindamn them using daylight savings crap and getting ahead even though they are longitudinally _behind_02:09
teprrrlike sigsegving every time you try to start any GL apps? :)02:09
jouni__mjeroen__ xmms is in universe you have to add repositories02:09
thegladiator!multiverse02:10
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:10
raphinkintelikey: don't let yourself imagine that hoary will be much faster than breezy because it's 6 months older. If you want something faster, use xubuntu02:10
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thegladiatorcheck the link ubotu says -> about adding repos02:10
thegladiatorthat shud be the first step for you02:10
raphinkgtg02:10
jeroen__how can i do that jouni?02:10
thegladiatorjeroen__, that was for you02:10
PeteyPabloif i dont like gftp whats my alternatives?02:11
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thegladiatorhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:11
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jeroen__i saw it..hehe can u talk private ro me jouni.. and tell me about xmms?02:11
PeteyPablojeroen__: what do you need to know about xmms ?02:13
intelikeyi ask if warty is good software to install now.  because; and get this: it had all the same hype that hoary then breezy and now dapper has.   and the way i see it.    if it was the best thing in the world then and the hardware has not changed but a year later it is junk and the new is the only thing that works right!  then one of two things, either the hype is bull shit through and through, because it was junk when it rele02:13
jeroen__info and how it works:)02:13
PeteyPabloit's an mp3 player..02:13
jeroen__i'm even not familiair with this chat02:13
thegladiatorwhats this http cache cleaner that i see quite often ?  especially while dealing with amarok ?02:13
stoneageis java better than ubuntu02:13
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Stew_Lappyyour perspectives of a release change as new releases are available02:14
thegladiatorstoneage, you cant compare both02:14
PeteyPablostoneage: what kind of question is that02:14
jeroen__i iknow its a mp3 player but where can i download or start it:)02:14
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thegladiatorstoneage, its like asking if c++ is better than windows ;p02:14
dodobrainintelikey or anyone else who can answer:: is there a place i can get a copy of (some of) universe/multiverse as an iso image ?02:14
dodobraini want to get this so that i don;t have to have an internet connection on other machines and redownload stuff02:15
PeteyPablothegladiator: anything is better then windows, i stepped in some dogshit yesterday and it was better then windows02:15
stoneagePeteyPablo: it's a "x better than y" question i guess02:15
intelikeythe idea of needing to upgrade softare, when the hardware has not changed is foolish  imo02:15
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jeroen__i'm new to linux ..so thats why i ask02:15
thegladiatorlol :p02:15
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intelikeydodobrain no don't think so.  just the install dvd02:15
dodobrainuhuh?? did someone just compare java and ubuntu ?02:15
dodobrainintelikey, :(02:16
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Stew_Lappyintelikey - but easch release is an improvement, warty and hoary were great when they came out, but no one has written perfect software just yet02:16
dodobrainso i need to make my apt cache _huge_ so i save the files02:16
hikenbootanyone ever see a xorg error somthing about *iceice unable to initialize protocol tcp cant remember the exact message hoping it rings a bell with someone ..id doesnt occure when launching startx from the root user from run level 3 but when logging in02:16
PeteyPabloatleast linux is easy to upgrade02:16
thegladiatorjava is used to do things , ubuntu is used to do those those that needs to be done02:16
PeteyPabloi like java02:16
PeteyPablobut i love ubuntu :-)02:16
jeroen__petey do i need to upgrade for xmms?02:16
thegladiatorlol02:16
davehi02:17
PeteyPablojeroen__: no.02:17
dodobrainhikenboot, you startx doesn;t have problems but login on kdm/gdm/xdm has problems?02:17
dodobrainmost prolly user settings then02:17
PeteyPabloi dont care what anyone says, bmp sucks and xmms owns02:17
jeroen__what can ido to start the program?02:17
stoneageso ubuntu IS actually better than java?!02:17
PeteyPablouhh go to02:17
PeteyPabloapplications>sound and video02:17
dodobrainPeteyPablo, xmms does rock, but i haven;t used it in _ages_02:17
intelikeyStew_Lappy each new peace of hardware is an improvement too.  but reguardless of the software this p1 will never be 64bit .02:17
PeteyPabloshould be in their02:17
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dodobrainmplayer is all i need for audio _&_ video02:17
PeteyPablododobrain: i use it with the docklet for gnome panel, so convenient02:17
thegladiatorjeroen__, the most help can offer you at times is the links that i gave you . you need to figure something and then come back if you find any problems . they are quite simple things actually .02:17
binkslo how do i empty my /root/.Trash folder02:18
hikenbootalso when ubuntu was built it never gave me the opportunity to set a root password have to use sudo is this normal?02:18
dodobrainPeteyPablo, nice to know. just that i don;t have a panel! ;)02:18
PeteyPablododobrain: why not? :-P02:18
Stew_Lappyhikenboot - yes normal02:18
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dodobrainPeteyPablo, err.. i use e17_cvs02:18
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intelikey<Stew_Lappy> intelikey - but easch release is an improvement, warty and hoary were great when they came out, <---- if true, then they still are.  they have not changed have they ?02:18
dodobrainits more than enough. i don;t need any gnome-panel02:18
PeteyPablododobrain: ahh, i'm new to linux i use gnome, and i use panels, i like it.02:18
thegladiatore17 :) its a very fancy theme02:18
Stew_Lappyintelikey - they02:19
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dodobrainthegladiator, fancy theme??02:19
intelikeywarty and hoary02:19
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dodobrainyou mean the default crappy bling-bling theme?02:19
win[X] ampupdate kernel with apt-get02:19
Stew_Lappyintelikey - they have upgraded the software, updates patch the install.02:19
win[X] amphow02:19
jeroen__ok gladiator but i dont have those lincks but nevermind i will ask a friend here he plolly knows it too02:19
binksanyone how do i empty my root wastebasket02:19
dodobrainraster just doesn;t want to change that, heh02:19
dodobrainand e17 is _not_ a theme02:19
stoneagewill ubuntu detect my external usb hdd, conected to my notebook via pcmcia usb2.0 card (nec chipset) ?02:19
thegladiatorsure02:19
Stew_Lappytime to eat!02:19
thegladiatoromg e17 is the name of a very popular theme as well02:19
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win[X] ampwhy old kernel is still on the welcome screen02:20
thegladiatorwelcome screen or boot screen ?02:20
hikenbootALSO: I was going to install the xubuntu-desktop instead of the ubuntu-desktop but it was not found when i did a package search for it..is this found in inother "repo"02:20
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dodobrainhuh? it is..? is it a gtk theme? prolly modelled after the default theme in e1702:20
win[X] ampboot screen02:20
thegladiatorwin[X] amp, you shud edit your grub.conf i think02:20
BrianB04Morning all.02:20
dodobrainevening BrianB0402:20
binksafters brian02:20
thegladiatorwin[X] amp, thats the file which has the list of ur "boot" opions02:21
madgik85if anyone can help, I was just using Totem to stream an Internet Radio station (HL radio) when all of a sudden it stops and says "there is no plugin to handle this movie". usualy WIndows Media player is used, but i was using totem just fine till like a minute ago. Any onehave any ideas?02:21
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thegladiatoryeah modelede on enlightement02:21
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thegladiatormodeled02:21
win[X] amperase the old kernel u mean02:21
PeteyPablohttp://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/Screenshot.png02:21
BrianB04I have a dumb question for ya all, and maybe someone here can answer it: Is there any apt servers out there that offer the latest version of Firefox?02:21
win[X] ampin the boot screen02:21
PeteyPablododo check that out.02:21
dodobrainPeteyPablo, lemme see02:21
thegladiatorno u dont erase it . grub.con is like a file that displays the bot opions while you boot . just remvoe the entry corresponding to the old kernel and you are done . just get some expert opinion though02:22
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dodobrainPeteyPablo, omg! is that a laptop or desktop?02:22
PeteyPablodesktop02:22
win[X] ampic,02:22
thegladiatordodobrain, how long have you been using e17 ?02:22
dodobrain_why_ are you running a low res ?02:22
PeteyPablowhat makes you ask?02:22
PeteyPabloi like 1024x76802:22
dodobrainthegladiator, many months now02:22
stoneagePeteyPablo: nice bg!02:22
PeteyPabloalways have02:22
dodobraineh,, ok..02:22
PeteyPablostoneage: thanks i really love that one02:23
dodobrain1600x1200. anything less i feel its too big02:23
PeteyPabloi cant stand02:23
BrianB04I'm with you on that dodobrain02:23
PeteyPabloanything over 1024x76802:23
PeteyPablo1152 is ok02:23
PeteyPablobut i still dislike it :-)02:23
win[X] ampi was install ubuntu dapper, its different way than breezy?02:23
dodobrainhttp://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/bsd_lol.jpg02:24
dodobrainenjoy ;)02:24
Seveaswin[X] amp, dapper is still unstable02:24
win[X] amphmmm....02:24
PeteyPablododobrain: my pc only offers 1024x768 max02:24
BrianB04Wow, Ubuntu did something Kubuntu could not: Discover my monitor and set it up correctly.02:24
PeteyPabloi have good monitor/video card but thats all it goes up to02:24
dodobrainwhat monitor? and what card?02:25
thegladiatorthats why they say ubuntu is the best02:25
PeteyPabloi have a sony lcd monitor02:25
dodobraini'm sure its not the fault of the card unless its old02:25
win[X] ampic,02:25
PeteyPabloand an ati x700 pro02:25
PeteyPablono the card is good02:25
dodobrainah, so limitation of the lcd ?02:25
win[X] amphow long 2 become dapper stable02:25
PeteyPablododobrain: no02:25
dodobraineh.. then you haven;t setup xorg properly02:25
PeteyPablododobrain: this is very high qualtiy lcd, i think it will do 160002:25
thegladiatorwin[X] amp, stick to breezy as long as you are new to ubuntu02:25
PeteyPablododobrain: no i havent02:25
PeteyPablododobrain: it's ok's though i like 1024x76802:26
stark-johanI've installed Mplayer and it works fine but I really dislike the playlist. I'm used to enque files to winamp playlists but using ubuntu the different media programs are so many, I don't know what to use. I'd prefer a single program to play video and music.02:26
intelikeyi had another big post typed up.  but it's off topic anyway.      all i was saying is if dos 3.31 was good on a 80286 in 88  it still is good on a 80286 in 06      that's all.02:26
dodobrainPeteyPablo, man, after using 1600 for a while you'll like it on that lcd02:26
dodobrainhow big is that lcd?02:26
PeteyPablo17"02:26
stoneageomg02:26
stoneagege setup your x ;)02:26
stoneage*go02:26
PeteyPablosomoen help me02:26
PeteyPabloand i will do :-)02:26
McJerryhow can you say dapper is unstable on your system if you don't install it? I've run dapper here for 2 weeks or more and if there is a problem you file a bug on bugzilla and an update is pretty quick02:26
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thegladiatore17 has its own file manager dodobrain ? jut curious02:28
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dodobrainthegladiator, haha.. theres efm, evidence and another based on etk02:28
dodobrainhehe02:28
PeteyPablododobrain: help me setup x?02:28
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dodobrainPeteyPablo, whos gonna celebrate midnight helping you setup xorg ?02:29
PeteyPablododobrain: you?02:29
dodobrainbeep.. wrong answer :p02:29
PeteyPablododobrain: it's 8:29 am here02:29
hyakuheiPeteyPablo: Il help dude02:29
PeteyPablohyakuhei: ok thanks02:29
Seveas00:29 jan 1 2006 in sydney ;(02:30
Seveas;)02:30
PeteyPablohyakuhei: basically i just want to add more resolutions to my options.02:30
hyakuheiokie dokie02:30
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dodobrainSeveas, yeah and i have already mentioned that technically they should be at 233002:30
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Seveas...because they're so far ahead?02:31
McJerrynano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll to the display subsections and add the resolutions02:31
hyakuhei__null__: chill out dude02:31
Seveas__null__, stop changing your nick, it's annoying02:31
__null__sorry02:31
dodobrainhuh?02:31
__null__I searched a nick for registering...02:31
dodobrainSeveas, they are longitudinally _behind_ brisbane, yet an hour _ahead_ of us!! grr..02:31
hyakuheiPeteyPablo: McJerry gave the right help, of course for that you would have to know the exact resolutions02:31
stoneagevoid *p = NULL;02:31
hyakuheistoneage: random02:32
PeteyPablohyakuhei: ok so i just add resolutions? like 1600x1200?02:32
win[X] amp8:32 pm in indonesia02:32
win[X] amp:d02:32
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dodobrainman, 5 hrs to go to finish dvd d/l02:32
hyakuheiPeteyPablo: thats about right, you will see the other entries in the file and copy them, change the res, makesure you back up the file first02:33
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McJerryyes, in same format as you see others listed in the xorg.conf already02:33
LowFlyerHi folks02:33
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McJerryagreed....cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup02:33
dodobrainanyway, i'll be partially afk from now..02:33
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PeteyPabloi got the file backed up02:33
hyakuhei:)02:34
PeteyPabloso i see the resolutions02:34
PeteyPablohow do i add one? then restart x or whatever i need to do02:34
McJerrynow add resos inf highest to lowest left to right for mode you are using then restart x session02:35
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PeteyPabloMcJerry: can you put that in newbie terms02:35
hyakuheijust put the lowest res on the left of the list, highest on the right02:35
PeteyPabloModes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"02:36
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PeteyPablois what i have now02:36
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dodobrainerr.. hyakuhei you said the exact opposite02:36
dodobrainhighest res on left.02:36
McJerryyes, highest res on left, lowest res to right02:36
PeteyPabloso...02:36
hyakuheisorry, yeah, highest on left02:36
PeteyPabloi just add it to those lists02:36
PeteyPabloi dont make a new one?02:36
McJerryadd res you want in the correct mode02:36
dodobrainPeteyPablo, best you just paste your xorg.conf on a pastesite: rafb.net/paste is a pastesite02:36
PeteyPablododobrain: ok02:36
McJerrywhat mode are you using?02:37
PeteyPablo!pastebin02:37
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:37
PeteyPabloim using 1024x76802:37
McJerrythat is res not mode02:37
PeteyPablohmm?02:37
McJerrymode 24, mode 16 ?02:37
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cyphasewe just had a power outage here02:37
PeteyPabloyou mean depth?02:38
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Seveascyphase, quit playing with those wires ;)02:38
PeteyPablohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6413 < = my xorg.conf02:38
jeroen__hey i'm back02:38
dodobraincyphase, great, but it didn;t happen at midnight :(02:38
cyphaseSeveas, you think that could be the problem?02:38
jeroen__ive downloaded xmms1.2.7 how can i play music now:)02:38
Seveascyphase, positive :)02:38
McJerrysorry, meant default depth, set correct res for the depth you are using02:39
cyphasewell, i'll try leaving them aone02:39
cyphasesee if it helps02:39
Seveasjeroen__, throw away what you downloaded02:39
Seveasand apt-get install xmms02:39
cyphasealone*02:39
PeteyPablohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6413 < = my xorg.conf02:39
PeteyPablowhat do i do with that jerry?02:39
jeroen__and then?02:39
thegladiatordodobrain, which the site for enligtment themes ?02:39
PeteyPablo"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" do i just add the res to the left and save the file?02:39
McJerrybrb making change02:40
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McJerryyou are wanting "1600x1200" correct? are you sure your monitor will handle it and your card will push it?02:41
dodobrainthegladiator, e themes to be used _with_ e17 or e17 based themes for gtk or qt or whathave you ?02:41
jeroen__is there a terminal where i can delete softwhare seveas?02:41
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PeteyPabloMcJerry: yes02:41
thegladiatori am askin about themes for e17 on e1702:41
dodobrainok..02:41
thegladiatornot for gtk02:41
PeteyPabloMcJerry: can you add a smaller one too? like 1152x800 or whatever it is02:41
dodobrainhttp://www.get-e.org02:41
thegladiatorah thanks02:41
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dodobrainuse the menu on the left for navigation02:42
thegladiatoryep02:42
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McJerryi will add the 1600x1200 you can add the other when you see how to do it02:42
PeteyPablokk02:42
PeteyPablothanks02:42
McJerryhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6414 has change02:43
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McJerrygoodluck02:43
McJerryreplace xorg.conf and restart x session02:43
PeteyPabloMcJerry: what do i do when i edit the file? save it and then..?02:43
hunikaI AM CURRENTLY AWAY02:43
PeteyPabloctrl+alt+backspace?02:43
McJerryyes02:43
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dodobrainerr.. how come there isn;t any modelines listed for the screen ?02:44
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dodobrainor is that not necessary witgh the new xorg ?02:44
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PeteyPabloMcJerry: i still don't see the new one in screen resolution?02:45
thegladiatorthe "windows key" is useless on linux ?02:45
thegladiatorwindows key in he keyboard02:45
Chousukeno.02:46
dodobrainthegladiator, not really..02:46
dodobrainunless its not mapped to do anything02:46
Quench!nvidia02:46
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:46
ChousukeYou can assign it for any purpose.02:46
Chousuke:)02:46
thegladiatori see. no defaul mapping02:46
PeteyPabloMcJerry: you here?02:46
thegladiatorperhaps it shud switch to dektop as in windows02:46
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dodobrainthegladiator, thats _your_ opinion!02:46
PeteyPablocan somoen help me :-) my xorg.conf file has 1600x1200 but i don't see it in screen resolution ?02:46
PeteyPablododobrain: in the xserver reconfiguration screen, how do i select one i want to use02:48
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PeteyPablododobrain: what button?02:48
dodobrainPeteyPablo, xpdyinfo | grep -i 'dimension'02:48
dodobrainhuh?02:48
thegladiatorguess many wud want it to swtcih to dektop as it doesn in XP02:48
dodobrainwhat reconfiguration screen?02:48
PeteyPablododobrain: i'm in the terminal in the x-server video mode configuration screen02:48
thegladiatordodobrain, whats the time now ?02:48
PeteyPablododobrain: what button to add one?02:49
dodobrainthegladiator, what if the person has never used XP ?02:49
dodobrainthegladiator, Sat Dec 31 23:51:18 EST 200502:49
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dodobrainPeteyPablo, how did you get this reconfiguration screen? is this some application provided by ubuntu?02:49
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PeteyPablododobrain: my question is i'm in the x-server window how do i select one that isn't * already02:49
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thegladiatordodobrain, chances are that very few come to linux with using XP/2000. atleast not many deserver that :p02:49
PeteyPablododobrain: it's x-server02:49
zblachquick question. where can I find an updated sources.list?02:50
PeteyPabloSelect the video modes you would like the X server to use.02:50
thegladiator!source.list02:50
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, thegladiator02:50
dodobrainPeteyPablo, i can;t comprehend what you are saying :(02:50
PeteyPablobut i dunno what button tohit02:50
thegladiatoroh02:50
PeteyPabloill take picture ok?02:50
thegladiator!update02:50
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, thegladiator02:50
PeteyPablo!repositories02:50
dodobrain'what button to hit' for what?02:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:50
PeteyPabloto add A resolution02:50
PeteyPabloi see the ones i can use now with *02:50
PeteyPabloi want to make the other ones useable02:50
dodobrainwhere the heck are you seeing this?02:51
dodobrainyou are running some application ?02:51
PeteyPabloterminal!02:51
PeteyPablohold on02:51
PeteyPablosudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:51
PeteyPabloin their02:51
dodobrainok, i dunno what the heck that does. like i have mentioned earlier a few times. i have _never_ installed any ubuntu system02:52
dodobrainor even used02:52
PeteyPablododobrain: why are you here then02:52
dodobrainerr.. PeteyPablo you edited your xorg.conf by hand, correct?02:52
PeteyPablododobrain: Mc did it for me02:52
dodobrainthen what the hecka re you doing with that reconfig shit?02:52
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Draken!nvidia02:52
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:52
dodobrainafter you edited your xorg.conf, just restart X02:53
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PeteyPablododobrain: because the mode he added isn't showing up in screen resolution02:53
dodobrainwhat else do you think you have to do?02:53
PeteyPablododobrain: i did... with ctrl+alt+backspace02:53
jeroen__ive installed ubuntu but still dont know how that mp3 player works:(02:53
PeteyPablododobrain: because the mode he added isn't showing up in screen resolution02:53
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dodobrainman! you edited xorg.conf, then you restarted x, correct?02:54
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dodobrainxdpyinfo | grep 'dimension'02:54
dodobrainwhat does it say?02:54
PeteyPablododobrain: yeswith ctrl+alt+backspace02:54
PeteyPablopete@LinuxBox:~$ xdpyinfo | grep 'dimension'02:55
PeteyPablo  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (342x271 millimeters)02:55
PeteyPablopete@LinuxBox:~$02:55
dodobrainok, so you saved http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6414 as /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:55
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velenohow can i read encrypted dvd ?02:56
PeteyPabloi did yes02:56
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Drakenwhere can i get this02:56
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb02:56
mjrveleno, sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh02:56
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PeteyPablododobrain: ?02:57
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Drakenwhere can i get this02:57
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb02:57
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velenomjr, it did something, but if i run ogle i get these messages : http://veleno.pastebin.com/48529202:58
dodobrainPeteyPablo, i dunno whats happening.02:58
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PeteyPablododobrain:02:58
PeteyPabloctrl+alt+backspace = restart x?02:59
dodobrainit should have changed the res after changing xorg.conf and restarting x.02:59
dodobrainyup.02:59
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PeteyPablowell it doesnt show up in02:59
PeteyPabloscreen resolution02:59
PeteyPablolet me ask you this, it has 43-60hz02:59
PeteyPabloi know my monitor can do 7502:59
PeteyPablois that the problem?02:59
dodobraini think your hsync and vert refresh settings are wrong for your lcd02:59
mjrveleno, unfamiliar to me; maybe the disk is defective. (You could of course try another program such as xine also.)02:59
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PeteyPablododobrain: yes02:59
dodobrainholy shit!03:00
dodobrainSun Jan  1 00:02:03 EST 200603:00
dodobraini missed the damn second!03:00
painkilerhey guys, quick question03:00
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dodobrainhappy new year all!!!03:00
painkilerwhat does /user/lib/apt/methods/media/cdrom do?03:00
painkilerHAAPPPYY NEW YEAR!03:01
Drakenwhere can i get this03:01
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:01
mjrpainkiler, usr, and it handles getting packages from cd repositories03:01
painkileri dont have cdrom03:01
painkileri only have cdrom003:01
painkilerhow do i change it?03:01
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zblachmsg ubotu easysource03:01
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painkilercan i change the name of my cd drive?03:03
verizanyone know if im installing mailserver into my server and for example i have account named abc then the mail should be abc@myserver.ee but can i change the abc name to something else? or i must have the same account name as i want my mail accountname?03:03
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painkileror is there anyother way to install kubuntu-desktop with out the installation disk?03:04
docta_vveriz: if you want it to be something else then you must create an alias03:04
thegladiatorgoin by sheer numbers , does gentoo users outnumber ubuntu ?03:04
eugenehey, I installed realplayer10 using the deb method but its not being found by firefox, any ideas?03:04
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verizdocta_v: what do you mean? with an alias...03:05
docta_vveriz: usually it goes in /etc/aliases...depends on what MTA you're using though03:05
deFryskeugene, deb method ?03:05
docta_vis this sendmail, postfix, qmail or what?03:05
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deFrysk!realplayer1003:06
docta_vpersonally i would recommend using postfix03:06
ubotuI don't know, deFrysk03:06
eugenedeFrysk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods?highlight=%28realplayer%29#head-16d4b26b1e26b89262d400f91db007f603d3bd4203:06
verizdocta_v: ok i will install postfix thnx .)03:06
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thegladiatorhow wud ubuntu user compare ubnut with gentoo ? it seems gentoo has a larger user base ?03:06
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verizdocta_v: and how must the alias look like?03:06
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deFryskeugene, installed ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb ?03:07
painkilercan i delete the need for [Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy?03:07
ninnghizidhait seems, that gentoo has another userbase.03:07
eugenedeFrysk, yes, that one - it works fine but firefox still says on realplayer found03:07
docta_vveriz, like this: "myalias:     abc"03:07
alex____I have big difficulties to set my laptop to use another screen, I use a nvdia card with a VGA out on the same card (dual head) I have tried many things (even the TwinView) but I can't get my laptop monitor to work with my external one, its either one or the other03:08
ninnghizidhaubuntu is ready for use, gentoo is for selfmade-man03:08
docta_vor "myalias:     abc@mydomain.com"03:08
thegladiatorah i see .03:08
thegladiatorgentoo has a larger user base ?03:08
ninnghizidhagentoo is good, ubuntu is good - but in different ways03:08
docta_valso...you muse run the newaliases program whenever you add to /etc/aliases03:08
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thegladiatori see03:08
deFryskeugene, try starting up realplay manually and let it setup the plug-ins03:09
ninnghizidhai don know, but i know about two guys who used gentoo before and ubuntu afterwards, and they said both:03:09
alex____GDM is starting the X server automatically, where is that set ?03:09
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eugenedeFrysk, done that, but firefox still not detecting realplayer03:09
jeorihi03:09
painkilerany idea?03:09
docta_vveriz, do a 'man aliases' after you install postfix03:09
deFryskeugene, what doet it detect then ?03:09
thegladiatorlike say wud a gentoo user love to use ubuntu?03:09
painkileri just need to install kde-desktop03:09
ninnghizidha"i thought, gentoo would be much faster than every other linux, but ubuntu is not slower and much mor confortable."03:09
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alex____anyone reading ,e ?03:09
deFryskeugene, dit you restart firefox btw ?03:10
thegladiatorcool03:10
deFryskdid*03:10
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:10
Drakenwhere can i get this03:10
eugenedeFrysk, of course03:10
eugenedeFrysk, nothing, it says plugin missing, and gives an option to install manually03:10
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ninnghizidhaif you like to work on your linux and learn about the stuff behind linux, try gentoo .. if you use it as a desktop.-system without much trouble, use ubunu03:10
ninnghizidhathe userbase of ubuntu is big as hell03:10
pinkisntwellDo I have to enable renderaccel in my xorg.conf03:10
pinkisntwell?03:10
docta_vthe thing about gentoo is it takes you 100 times longer to do anything03:10
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deFryskeugene, there is a mozilla folder in the reaplayer folder03:11
docta_vit's good for learning though03:11
thegladiatori get the idea03:11
Drakenwhere can i get this03:11
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:11
deFryskeugene, link those to the pluginsfolder of firefox03:11
thegladiatormore for research if i could use the word03:11
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deFryskeugene, see if that works03:11
dodobrainthegladiator, not really.03:11
painkilercould i change the cdrom file in /usr/lib/apt/methods/ to cdrom0?03:11
alex____I have read that one some new nvidia card, Xinerama is not to be used as the nvidia driver has its own xinerama, having said that I have GDM that start x automatically causing xinerama to start up, where do I switch that off, how can I set GDM off03:11
dodobrainyou get all sorts of poeple using all sorts of distros03:11
painkilerhow can i get it to change?03:11
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thegladiatorah03:12
alex____am I talking on this channel ?03:12
thegladiatorubuntu is cool anyways . i used fc4 and it was a bit hard to configure but ub is simple and effective03:12
alex____someone ?03:12
dodobrainalex____, yeah. we can see your messaged03:12
painkileri am feeling that way to alex.03:12
alex____ok03:12
dodobrain*messages03:12
Dr_Acemasterwhat's the command to tell what my local ip is?03:13
eugenedeFrysk, its already in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins where to totem plugin is and its still saying plugin missing :(03:13
Drakenwhere can i get this03:13
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:13
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dodobrainthegladiator, once you are cempetent to a certain level, it doesn;t really matter which distro.03:13
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SeveasSuperLag, afaik not03:13
dodobrainthey only make (some) things simpler (or feel easier)03:13
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deFryskeugene, perhaps the totemplugins interfere03:14
DrakenWILL SOMEONE PLZ HELP ME FFS03:14
Drakenwhere can i get this03:14
Drakenlinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:14
Draken@!!!!!!03:14
ninnghizidhahow much do you know about linux, thegladiator03:14
ninnghizidha?03:14
deFryskDraken, if anyone knew they would answer03:14
eugenedeFrysk, firefox says no plugin found to play this filetype, how can there be an interference?03:14
dodobrainDraken, sorry if someone asked already and you answered, did you try google ?03:14
Drakenno they wouldnt03:14
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deFryskeugene, I honestly do not know03:14
alex____what else can I do ?03:14
thegladiatorjust a 2 months old into linux03:14
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eugenedeFrysk, does it work for you? -- say go to http://imdb.com/title/tt0369441/trailers-screenplay-X29325-6-303:15
thegladiatorcasual expert you coul say03:15
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SuperLagDraken: usually you get help quicker if you don't bring the *entitlement*  attitude to the table03:15
deFryskeugene, nope does not work03:15
alex____ok thanks03:15
thegladiatorninnghizidha, not much . better than a newbie though ;p03:15
deejoe_ok, in GNOME/metacity I can go to System, Log Off... and then choose hibernate.  question is, how can I hibernate from the command line?  the "hibernate" command doesn't seem to be the thing.03:15
SuperLagDraken: no one owes you any help.  They're all volunteers here.03:16
DrakenSuperLag read up, i been asking for last 2 hours03:16
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Drakennoone even said soz no03:16
thegladiatorshutdown -h now :p03:16
ninnghizidhai'd say, that gentoo is not for you, but if you would like to work on it, just install it as a second linux-partition03:16
Drakenand dodobrain, i tried google03:16
Drakennothing03:16
thegladiatornot sure on hibernation03:16
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deejoe_oh, and FWIW, I don't feel any entitlement about getting an answer ;-)03:16
dodobrainDraken, oh really?03:16
SuperLagDraken: Okay, so go have a cup of coffee, have some breakfast.  Come back, and use /lastlog Draken and check it out.03:16
dodobraini just tried google and here is what i found out:03:16
dodobrain(1) mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/releases/ubuntu-server/breezy/ubuntu-server-5.10-install-amd64.list03:16
dodobrainfirst link ^^03:17
SuperLagdoh!03:17
dodobrain(2) it says that deb is in the ubuntu-server-install-amd64 image.03:17
dodobrainnow maybe looking through the other lists is a good idea too if you're not talking about amd64 arch.03:17
deejoe_thanks anyway, the gladiator03:17
Drakenwtf are u talking about03:17
deejoe_er, thanks anyway, thegladiator03:18
Drakeni dont have the server install disk03:18
dodobrainDraken, then you're question was b0rken.03:18
thegladiatordeejoe_, np . sprry couldnt help03:18
deFryskDraken, please relax and mind your language03:18
Drakendodobrain03:18
Drakenim looking for a html link03:18
Drakento download the thing03:18
dodobrainyou should have asked where the hell you can find this file and you know its on the ubuntu-server image!!03:18
Drakenomfg03:18
DrakenI DONT HAVE THE SERVER IMAGE03:18
ninnghizidhai tried gentoo after 3 month of linux, and i cas confused as hell with it.03:18
Drakencome on now, catch on03:18
thegladiatorDraken, wtf decreased ur chance to get a reply  actually03:19
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thegladiatorDraken, decreases rather*03:19
SuperLagYeah, but he doesn't get it.03:19
thegladiatorrelax and get ur things done :p03:19
velenoi enabled multiverse, got w32 codecs and installed libdvdread3, but still can't read the dvd...03:19
Drakenthegladiator, im not in the mood, it took me 7 hours to find out that i had to add a # infront of auth in ppp so i could connect03:19
thegladiatorDraken, sorry i can understand03:20
dodobrainDraken, i'll ask one more time: did you _really_ use google?03:20
deFryskDraken, if that took you 7 hrs its time to take a brake ;p03:20
spikehjouni__m: I've installed build-essential and tried ./configure again; this time it is giving an error saying that GLIB is not (correctly) installed03:20
Drakenyes i did dodobrain03:20
SuperLagDraken: sounds like you need to step away for awhile03:20
s1gnAlI have a question about cron and sudo, if I run a command on cron that normally requires root privileges, will it fail? or can I just specify "sudo commandname" in the cron entry?03:20
dodobrain5th (FIFTH) link: http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:20
dodobrainnow, you obviously didn;t use google.03:20
coNPwhich package provides md5sum?03:20
Drakendodobrain03:20
dodobrainyou just tried your luck with google!03:20
Drakeni fucking did03:21
dodobrainand that damn link WORKS03:21
dodobraini just tried it!03:21
Drakenand i didnt get any results like that03:21
alex____could someone help me to set up my second monitor to work with my laptop one, knowing that I have been trying to make it work for about a week now03:21
phos-phorosdookie03:21
deFryskcoNP, md5sum is installed by default03:21
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dodobrainanyway, thats past now.03:21
dodobrainplease go ahead and get it from that url03:21
coNPdeFrysk, okay, but now is broken for some reason03:21
s1gnAlI have a question about cron and sudo, if I run a command on cron that normally requires root privileges, will it fail? or can I just specify "sudo commandname" in the cron entry?03:21
pilgrimdodobrain, you have to _know_ how to use google and not just _use_ google.03:21
dodobrainpilgrim, who the hell are you talking to?03:22
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SuperLags1gnAl: I'm not the authority here, by any means... but it would seem to me that that wouldn't work, because even with sudo, intervention is still required. (you have to be at the keyboard to enter your password)03:22
dodobraini and the damn person who got him the link!03:22
GeckoCan anyone tell me why japanese ime conflicts with chinese?03:22
dodobraingod! please learn to read a few sentences earlier!03:22
pilgrimdodobrain, that's what I'm saying, he probably doens't know _how_ to use google.03:22
Geckoscim-tables-ja wants to uninstall scim-chinese. That doesn03:22
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dodobrainpilgrim, and as i said: its 'past'03:22
Gecko*doesn't make any sense03:23
ubuntuhey guys03:23
ubuntuhow do i mount ntfs partitions plz?03:23
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dodobrainhe knows now that google can indeed get you good results.03:23
alex____a pleasure this channel03:23
dodobrainso, i'm not concerned anymore03:23
ubuntuhey03:24
Drakendodobrain03:24
Drakencan u get me another link03:24
Drakenthis link is going at 2kb/s03:24
docta_vGecko: chinese don't like japanese03:24
ubuntududes03:24
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ubuntuhow can i mount a ntfs partition damit?03:24
dodobrainit is? goes pretty fast for me.. maybe because i'm in .au03:25
Geckodocta_v, point taken, though I doubt politics has snuck into the ubuntu repositories03:25
pilgrimubuntu, try mount -t ntfs /dev/hda<n> /mnt03:25
dodobraini.e same tld as that site03:25
ubuntuty03:25
pilgrimubuntu, yw03:25
dodobrainlemme try some more: no guarantees thins time though :)03:25
docta_vubuntu: although i'm not sure about ubuntu...other distros don't include the ntfs driver by default due to licensing issues03:25
cerdilhai asu03:25
docta_vthere's probably a seperate package you need to install first03:25
ubuntuic03:25
DavidLeeRothcan anyone help me with a radeon x700... it is not being properly recognized03:25
ubuntuit worked like 2 months ago for me lol03:26
tortoisedraken: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb03:26
docta_vubuntu: if you have the driver...you should be able to mount -t ntfs just like any other partition03:26
pilgrimubuntu, did you the above command?03:26
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jouni__mspikeh otherwise apt-get build-dep xchat but there is not build-dep for xchat hmm.03:26
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spikehjouni__m: I'd like to build and compile it myself03:27
Drakenta tortoise03:27
ubuntuwell yeh03:27
dodobrainDraken, where are you? tld03:27
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dodobraineu or americas?03:27
ubuntuit doesnt do anythin damit03:27
velenohow can i add marillat repositories so that i can use those packages in ubuntu ?03:27
ubuntuim on the live version03:27
DavidLeeRothdoes anyone have familiarity with the radeon x700 card?03:27
dodobrainoh tortoise gave you a link.03:28
pilgrimubuntu, did you rplace <n> with number03:28
dodobrain:)03:28
pilgrimubuntu, if it "doesn't do anything" it probably worked03:28
ubuntuyeah lol03:28
ubuntudamit how do i root03:28
SuperLagveleno: you have the addresses for those repos already, right? if so, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add them to that file.03:28
ubuntuforgot03:28
pilgrimsudo <command>03:28
thegladiatorsudo su03:28
thegladiatorsudo -s03:28
ubuntuthnx03:28
thegladiatoror as pilgrim says03:28
velenoSuperLag, i don't have yet, do you ?03:28
SuperLagveleno: I'm sorry, sir.  I do not.03:29
lamedhello guys!03:29
lameda little help. I'm trying to install a l2tp cable connection. What package should I look into?03:29
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ubuntudamit i cant see the mnt file on the filesystem03:29
lamedipsec? l2tp? (-very old)    I'm very new to linux03:30
pilgrimubuntu, what command did you use? did you get any error?03:30
ubuntumount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt03:30
ubuntunope no error03:30
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SuperLagWhat's the difference between the CD images that are available for download, and he DVD images? more toys to play with?03:30
Kindred!ntfs03:30
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK03:30
ubuntua sec of lag thats all03:30
veleno1 more question: anyone here using a dell laptop latitude d510  ? if so, i'm facing a strange behaviour of the sound card i'd like to share03:30
pilgrimubuntu, if you do "cd /mnt"03:30
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ubuntuoki ty03:30
pilgrimubotu, are you in that filesystem?03:31
ubotuI haven't a clue, pilgrim03:31
ubuntugee thnx03:31
ubuntupilgrim, ive got another problem03:31
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pilgrimubuntu, ok...03:31
ubuntumy whole comp powers off03:31
pilgrimlol03:31
SuperLago.O03:31
ubuntuits like a toshiba mobile03:31
pilgrimok...do you see the "IO" button03:31
SuperLagout of the blue?03:31
pilgrimpress it <joking>03:31
ubuntulol03:31
lamedI see it's the rush time over here. _please_, what's the package I have to look into for l2tp vpn Cable connection?03:31
ubuntuno, i mean it03:31
ubuntuit powers down by itself03:31
dodobrainhuh? powers down when there is a blackout?03:32
dodobrain:p03:32
ubuntunope dude03:32
ubuntuim serious03:32
ubuntuim not really a noob dude03:32
SuperLagubuntu: ummmm... then you've got bigger problems you need to solve first. :)03:32
ubuntui like didnt turn it off 2 weeks03:32
tieum_does anybody have a good link for a wifi howto, create an access point or an ad-hoc connection03:32
ubuntuindeed i know03:32
tieum_my does not work at all03:32
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bladedgethats the prob03:32
bladedgeim runnin ubuntu on the live cd03:32
dodobrainok, so you had it running for 2 weeks.03:32
bladedgecuz if i try to install it it just powers down my comp03:33
bladedgeits weird03:33
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pilgrimbladedge, probably some heating problem and kernel turn off to save it's ass.03:33
dodobrainand now it powers down by itself after a (seemingly) random amount of time after power on ?03:33
bladedgei think the hdd or the bios got fucked up03:33
bladedgewell maybe03:33
bladedgebut hey i didnt get a power down now03:33
jouni__mspikeh try to install libglib2.0-003:33
lamedGUYS, L2TP CONNECTION. ANYONE KNOWS HOW? I ONLY FOUND INFORMATION ABOUT PPPOE CONNECTION03:33
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SuperLagbladedge: and you want help with installing it on possibly faulty hardware? that's a recipe for frustration and wasting time03:33
docta_vhate to break it to you but if you didn't know about su then you're a noob03:33
spikehjouni__m: that is already installed, I think with build-essential03:33
dodobrainindeed superchode|fu03:33
bladedgenope03:33
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SuperLagwow.03:34
dodobrainerr. SuperLag03:34
pilgrimlamed, sorrry, no clue (ohh, we do see you though)03:34
bladedgei just need to know if my dam comp could be saved03:34
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SuperLagbladedge: run it through the dishwasher :)03:34
dodobrainbladedge, we're not h/w experts here! :)03:34
bladedgedamit03:34
bladedgewell duh neighter am i03:34
dodobrainanyway, you might want to just boot into bios and monitor the cpu temp.03:34
bladedgethats y im askin ya lol03:34
lamed:'(:'(somebody surely have done it:'(03:34
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bladedgei cant my bios sux03:35
dodobrainmaybe its overheating and the bios is shutting off the machine03:35
bladedgeno monitorin toold03:35
bladedgetools*03:35
bladedgeyeh i kno i tryed to monitor that myself03:35
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pilgrimbladedge, power it up.. who knows. check if power cable got unplugged and battery is 0% full.03:35
bladedgenope03:35
Boblis there a way to do something like remote desktop with ubuntu03:35
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bladedgebattery's fine03:35
seniorsepialamed, i have the same question, try install FreeSwan\OpenSwan03:35
bladedgeits well pluged03:35
dodobrainbladedge, battery is irrelevant03:35
pilgrimbladedge, first time it happened?03:36
mweBobl: yeah03:36
bladedgepilgrim,  yesturday03:36
pilgrimbladedge, this is _second_ time? wow. did you check logs last time?03:36
bladedgewe had a power shutdown in the whole town03:36
bladedgenope03:36
bladedgeit just shuts down03:36
SuperLagBobl: If I remember right, it's called vino.03:36
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bladedgebut this time it didnt03:36
Boblah right, is it possible with a windows client03:36
pilgrimbladedge, is it like instant with no warning whatsoever?03:36
bladedgei think it might be the hdd03:36
bladedgeexactly03:37
bladedgeno warning nothing03:37
atmatHi, I installed Kubuntu linux, now I want to add Greek keyaboard support in order to write in Greek, how do I do that?03:37
docta_vBobl: you want to connect to your ubuntu system remotely or a connect to a windows system with ubuntu?03:37
bladedgeabsolutley nuthin03:37
Boblconnect to ubuntu remotely03:37
pilgrimbladedge, that's scary...as a precaution I'm logging off from this channel just in case it's contaiguious.03:37
docta_vBobl: you want vnc then...i personally use tightvnc03:37
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lamedseniorsepia: are you registered?03:37
dodobrainbladedge, err.. if the hdd goes broke it won;t shut itself down! unless you have a weird system03:37
bladedgelol03:37
bladedgewell i dunno03:38
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bladedgebut right now im on live ubuntu03:38
SuperLagbladedge: come back when your hardware issues are solved.03:38
deFryskatmat, most people here use gnome , try #kubuntu if you cannot get an answer here03:38
bladedgen it didnt power itself down03:38
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Bobldocta_v, looks good03:38
dodobrainif you suspect the hdd of being faulty: listen and check whether there are clicking noises from the hdd03:38
basixhi every one03:38
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pilgrimbladedge, ok...so you're talking to us about your laptop that has windows on it? And ubunut is fine?03:38
PeteyCrackhm03:38
bladedgeoki ty03:38
PeteyCrack1152x864 is nice.03:38
bladedgelike it had windows on it03:39
PeteyCracki think ill keep it.03:39
bladedgei formated the partition03:39
bladedgen i cant install linux eighetr03:39
pilgrimbladedge, see now that must be the problem.03:39
docta_vBobl: only thing to keep in mind though...is if you're connecting from the internet to inside a NAT'd LAN then you must tunnel the connection through ssh. simply forwarding the port on the router won't work03:39
seniorsepialamed: i'm not registered i think03:39
bladedgewhat ?03:39
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Bobldocta_v, thats ok, i have a direct connection03:39
nassois anyone here good at using sodipodi?03:39
lamedseniorsepia: that's why you can't get my pm's. they are restricted for registered users around freenode.03:40
docta_vBobl: cool...might be worth doing ssh tunneling anyway for added security03:40
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pilgrimbladedge, <joking> windows is always the problem...(more seriously check the bios, I had this thing happening with a sytem of mine and it costs me $40 to find out it was the bios setting I changed)03:40
bladedgenothin will install03:40
Bobldocta_v, thanks for the info :)03:40
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bladedgei tried03:40
lamedseniorsepia: " Openswan is an implementation of IPsec for Linux"  Isn't there an ipsec package already installed? (i'm on winXP now, untill I'll manage the internet connection)03:41
pilgrimbladedge, restored to default?03:41
Mabus06You can just get wine from synaptic? Last time I installed it, it was harder, when did it change?03:41
zalaamif i want to change all my icons,do i move my new icons into /usr/share/pixmaps/ and thats it?03:41
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bladedgeill try03:41
bladedgebut its runnin like that since the beggining03:41
nassozalaam, check art.gnome.org for icon-themes03:41
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pilgrimbladedge, well, then it should hurt to restore default settings.03:42
nassozalaam, can be changed in system ->prefs -> themes03:42
bladedgeill tyr n do it03:42
bladedgemaybe it'll help03:42
bladedgewho knows03:42
bladedgebrb03:42
zalaamnasso: oki thanx03:42
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dodobrainPeteyCrack, dude!03:43
dodobrainnice to see you have slightly improved your res :)03:43
PeteyCrackdodobrain: this is as small as i can handle :-p03:43
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x-spiritpeople, how can i read and write from/on ntfs hdds ?03:44
bladedgemount -t ntfs /dev/hda<n> /mnt lol03:44
pilgrimLOL03:44
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bladedgelike thank pilgrim03:44
dodobrainlol indeed03:45
pilgrimx-spirit, last time I checked writing was experimental03:45
BrianB04Hey, gotta dumb question: Can you turn Ubuntu into a better Kubuntu? IE Adding KDE etc?03:45
bladedgelol03:45
dodobrainPeteyCrack, tried 1280x1024? sometimes i find people who are ok with going from 1152 to 128003:45
deFryskBrianB04, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:45
PeteyCrackdodobrain: i just tried it on my other pc, since it's already functional way too small03:45
kestasBrianB04, apt-get install -- yeah03:45
x-spiriti run ubuntu for a first time, so no ideq..03:45
pilgrimBrianB04, no ...KDE is eval. I mean evil.03:45
dodobrainPeteyCrack, but did you try it on this lcd?03:46
PeteyCrackdodobrain: nah03:46
dodobrainhehe.. KDe is eval ;)03:46
PeteyCrackdodobrain: i like this03:46
dodobrainsee!03:46
kestaspilgrim, what would happen if Qt suddenly decided to relicense its stuff anyway?03:46
BrianB04KDE is eval? KDE == ?03:46
dodobrainyou should have tried it on _this_ lcd. you might have liked it03:46
PeteyCrackdodobrain:03:46
Happufx-spirit: you should not write to ntfs. It can break. Use ubuntu disk manager to mount it.03:46
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dodobrainBrianB04, :p03:46
PeteyCrackdodobrain: what is the cmd to start X from term?03:46
dodobrainPeteyCrack, X03:46
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PeteyCracklmfa03:46
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dodobrainhuh?03:47
PeteyCrackok ill try it give me a minute03:47
deFryskBrianB04, #ubuntu is filled with gnome users , you might feel safer in #kubuntu03:47
dodobrainthat wasn;t a joke!03:47
PeteyCrackdodobrain: 1280x ?03:47
pilgrimkestas, well the license sucks as it is, so KDE would either have do develop QT on their own or switch to GTK :D03:47
dodobrain1280x102403:47
mahanguBrianB04, you should be in #ubuntu-devel03:47
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PeteyCrackdodobrain: ok03:47
bladedgePeteyCrack, startx03:47
bladedgelmao03:47
dodobrainPeteyCrack, you don;t need to quit your current X03:47
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kestaspilgrim, yeah that'd be interesting03:47
PeteyCrackdodobrain: ?03:47
kestasif I was going to write some software with userland threads which API should I use?03:48
kestasis there a standard one?03:48
pilgrimkestas, indeed. GTK is better for development because of LGPL. So if a client doesn't want to open source their software you can safely use GTK but not QT.03:48
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BrianB04That's true pilgrim. Because you have to GPL anything you write in QT, unless you want to pay out the butt, it's a hassle.03:48
PeteyCrackdodobrain: it wont show up until i restart X03:48
dodobrainPeteyCrack, just this: $ X  :1 & xterm --display :1 &03:48
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PeteyCrackpete@LinuxBox:~$ $ X  :1 & xterm --display :1 &03:49
PeteyCrackbash: $: command not found03:49
pilgrimblades, pick one already.03:49
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MalachiI've got a question.03:49
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pilgrimI've got an answer.03:49
spikehwhere does Synaptic install applications? is it possible to make it install in /home ?03:49
pilgrim(maybe)03:50
MalachiI recently upgraded Firefox 1.07 to 1.503:50
jouni__mspikeh I managed to configure  xchat 2.4.5. Do you have 2.0-0 installed?03:50
MalachiBut if I open a link through Evolution,03:50
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MalachiEvolution calls 1.07.03:50
PeteyCrackdodobrain: ?03:50
spikehjouni__m: no, I used Synaptic to install 2.4.4 to ask for help on compiling03:50
MalachiCan I change that?03:50
GeckoI have a broken package to report, what do I do?03:50
pilgrimMalachi, why do you still have 1.07 anyway?03:50
Dreamglideri need some help with grub, i get a error 22 when i boot03:50
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MalachiI don't know....03:50
MalachiI guess I should get rid of it...03:51
pilgrimMalachi, you can change the default browser in gnome using ...thinking....03:51
pilgrimMalachi, system>preferences>prefered applications03:51
Malachipligrim: thanks.03:51
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pilgrimMalachi, you're welcome.03:51
Malachipilgrim: Let me see...03:51
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bladedgeback03:51
bladedgeon another comp lol03:52
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pilgrimbladedge, always helpse to have 1+03:52
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bladedgeyeh03:52
pilgrimMalachi, how did you upgrade firefox anyway?03:52
flogistongnome-system-monitor don't want to load.03:52
bladedgeindeed it does03:52
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Malachipilgrim: What's the difference in removal and complete removal?03:52
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spikehjouni__m: I've installed some other glib packages and it's finished configuring; now make isn't working and is giving an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641503:52
pilgrimMalachi, bookmarks>gone. etc.03:52
flogistonI can see the process in terminal with ps aux03:52
Malachipilgrim: I found some guide on the forums.03:52
stark-johanI've installed xmms to play mp3 and it works but I get alot of clipping in the music. What can i do to improove this?03:52
pilgrimMalachi, ok.03:52
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stark-johanNot improove the clipping ... :-)03:53
Dreamglideri can boot both WindowsXP and Ubuntu if i use Smart Boot manager wich is on Ultimate boot cd, and enter what disk to boot with no problems, how can i fix grub ?03:53
Malachipilgrim: I can't remove firefox 1.07 without removing yelp?03:53
DRAGON_Ultrafine tune it03:53
spikehjouni__m: oh, and glib 2.0-0 is installed03:54
GeckoPlease. Can someone tell me where to submit data about a broken package in 5.10?03:54
pilgrimMalachi, yelp what the? you should be able to.03:54
pilgrimGecko, a bug you mean?03:54
jouni__mspikeh did you make or sudo make03:54
bladedgebtw pilgrim03:54
spikehjouni__m: sudo make03:54
bladedgewhen i check out the dam partitions03:54
bladedgefuck03:54
pilgrimLOL03:54
bladedgeit shut down again03:54
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bladedgedamit03:54
pilgrimOH!03:54
bladedgethink its the bios lol03:55
Geckopilgrim, yes, a bug03:55
claudiushello everyone! I'm having a problem with my display settings in breezy, I really have no idea what's causing it. the resolution is stuck to 640x480 and it won't let me change it03:55
DRAGON_Ultrago to bug report03:55
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irvinhappy new year all!03:55
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Malachipilgrim: When I mark FF 1.07 through Synaptic, it also marks firefox-gnome-support and yelp03:55
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pilgrimMalachi, for _removal_?03:56
claudiusI suspected the problem was with the kernel modules which contained the nvidia drivers so I installed the nvidia-glx drivers, but no luck03:56
Malachipilgrim: I think so.03:56
pati have problems with multi booting; i've installed xp aside ubuntu, before ubuntu worked fine - no problems. Now after installing xp: the xp bootloader does not provide to start the ubuntu any more03:56
Malachipilgrim: It says to be removed.03:56
DRAGON_UltraXP? who needs that old OS03:56
flogistonNot me.03:56
patthe partition is intact, but i cannot acces and not startup ubuntu any more: does any one can help me03:56
pilgrimMalachi, strange. I don't really know what to say, check the description of yelp is firefox menioned there?03:56
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Malachipilgrim "This package contains the GNOME online help browser application."03:57
bladedgelike it shut itself down again03:57
bladedgeimma go crazy03:57
visik7the repository for kubuntu and ubuntu are the same ?03:57
pilgrimpat have you a way to boot into anylinux?03:57
pilgrim(cd or something)03:57
pilgrimbladedge, maybe it's the NTFS support in linux.03:57
bladedgeits fucked up03:57
pati have a boot cd of ubuntu03:57
bladedgedun think so03:57
pilgrimMalachi, that doesn't sound like you want it gone.03:58
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bladedgeit doesnt get a chance to load the os03:58
Malachipilgrim: No, it doesn't.03:58
Malachipilgrim: I use help alot =\03:58
linthyx8803:58
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bladedgedamit03:58
bladedgethink it got fucked up03:59
patwhat you mean: alot?03:59
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pilgrimpat, try that cd and open a terminal and then do grub-install /dev/hda03:59
bladedgen im only 16 how do i get enough cash to buy a new one03:59
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pilgrimMalachi, try and unmark those packages and then apply03:59
Malachipat: was that addressed to me?03:59
Malachipilgrim: Tried.03:59
pilgrimor just leave firefox 1.07 it couldn't hurt03:59
pilgrimMalachi, and what happened?03:59
Malachipilgrim:I'll do that.03:59
Malachipilgrim: Nothing. It wouldn't unmark.04:00
Malachipilgrim: I checked yelp04:00
phendrickdoes a default breezy install come with a firewall?04:00
Malachi's dependencies04:00
DRAGON_Ultrayes04:00
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Malachipilgrm: It depends on firefox.04:00
MalachiI'll just leave it04:00
phendricki'm still trying to ssh to my server. i can ping it, ssh FROM it, but cant ssh to it04:00
pilgrimhmm. I see04:01
pilgrimThat makes sense.04:01
pilgrimMalachi, then just leave it.04:01
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pilgrimMalachi, because I guess it doesn't know that you have upgraded firefox since the method was unconventional.04:01
pilgrimphendrick, what have you done so far?04:02
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pilgrimphendrick, sshd running?04:02
Malachipilgrim: Can't wait till it gets in the repositories...04:02
phendrickpilgrim, just a default install04:02
patin my ubuntu, i tried to change the bootloader by trying to change the menu.lst file in the bootload directory: no access rights;; i did install ubuntu and while installing the system asked a name and pass and this was all ok. if i looked at rights, i had all of them, but no way, .. i could not change the menu.lst file04:02
pilgrimMalachi, me to. Although I tried epiphany and I like it better firefox is a hog04:02
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phendricksshd is running, yep04:02
phendrickinstalled open ssh04:02
raphinkpat: did you use sudo to edit menu.lst?04:02
pilgrimpat, did you try what I said above?04:02
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patnot yet04:03
pilgrimphendrick, what are you trying to login as?04:03
phendrickmy default user on the server04:03
phendrickpilgrim, but i don't even get a password prompt04:03
patmy ubuntu disk is a startup disk, will i get the possibiity to start-up a terminal session as you said04:03
pilgrimphendrick, just hangs?04:03
jouni__mspikeh sorry I don't have any ideas04:03
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phendrickpilgrim, yeah just stays there, as though it's trying to access it04:04
pilgrimpat, you can just go to applications>accessorises right?04:04
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pilgrimphendrick, I've had that....now to remebere what caused it.04:04
Mabus06I have a dvd burner, but I can't find it in nautilus and the eject button doesn't work. Any ideas?04:04
phendrickpilgrim, if you can thatd be ace! :)04:04
patpelgrim, i'll try it right now04:05
pilgrimphendrick, try do a port scan on it. even try to ssh from the system itself that way no network firewall get in the way04:05
oblibHas anyone here used gopdit? It's an mpeg2 editor not included in the ubuntu sources04:05
pilgrimpaddel, good luck04:05
pilgrimpat, good luck04:05
spikehcan someone tell me where Synaptic installs applications?04:06
phendrickpilgrim, how do i do a portscan?04:06
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pilgrimphendrick, install nmap04:06
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phendrickpilgrim, do i run that on the server or the client?04:06
coNPspikeh: look in packages, where they put their files04:06
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pilgrimphendrick, client04:06
oblibspikeh, depends on the program - Synaptic installs where it is told to04:06
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phendrickpilgrim, ok thanks very much. i'll have a go04:06
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pilgrimphendrick, you're welcome04:07
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spikehcoNP: oblib: is it possible to force it to install in /home which is mounted on a separate partition?04:07
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coNPspikeh: /home is for user files, why do you want to install something there?04:08
oblibspikeh, in Linux, the idea is that you only have user files04:08
oblibyeah, what conp said04:08
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oblibspikeh, but in answer, not that I know of04:08
kakeihi,happy new year,does anyone knows if exist a baghira precompiled .deb?04:08
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oblibspikeh, you would have to move it after the install. A program on Linux needs more than just the executable though04:09
spikehoblib: coNP: I see, but I read somewhere that people mounted /home on a separate partition so when Linux is rebuilt all the applications/settings remain04:09
oblibsettings, not apps04:09
coNPspikeh: okay, settings will be stored either in /etc or in /home/<user>04:10
pilgrimcoNP, spikeh, usually both.04:10
oblibspikeh, getting apps is simple with Synaptic, and if the settings are carried over, it's like you lost nothing04:10
spikehoblib: coNP: then is it possible to force the settings to be stored in /home04:10
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patpilgrim, i've just explored the disk; the only files with grub.. i can find are on \pool\main\g\grub and \pool\main\g\grub-installer . The disk contains an iso image. I've got it from a magazine, without additional comment.04:10
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oblibspikeh, usually they are. They start with ., like .mplayer04:11
coNPspikeh: user settings are stored there04:11
patpilgrim, the directories contain DEB-files04:11
coNPspikeh: what do you want to install?04:11
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oblibspikeh, to see them, type ll -a at a prompt04:11
spikehoblib: so if I were to rebuild Linux, and then install XChat with Synaptic; all my configurations will be intact?04:11
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pilgrimpat, I guess those will do.  Have you the plain ubuntu CD?04:11
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pilgrimpat, or the "install" CD?04:11
melissasI've installed Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop and the system doesn't reboot04:11
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alan__hi04:12
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oblibspikeh, preserving your home dir? I believe so, but I have never tried it. coNP?04:12
melissasany help???04:12
alan__how can I update from hoary to breezy?04:12
alan__what do I have to do?04:12
apokryphos!upgrade04:12
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:12
alan__thanks04:12
pilgrimmelissas, doesn't shut down either?04:12
oblibmelissas, you mean you tell it to reboot and it does nothing?04:12
PeteyCrackwow abiword is much better then open office04:12
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spikehcoNP: I have a .xchat2 folder under /home; are the configuration files stored in there?04:13
pilgrimPeteyCrack, is lighter, eh?04:13
melissas<pilgrim>it does...but it doesn't reboot automatically...04:13
PeteyCrackpilgrim: any word processor that has a loading splash screen (Open office) sucks04:13
pilgrimmeepy, oh. I see.04:13
pilgrimPeteyCrack, lol04:13
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patpilgrim, i do not now how i could run a DEB file. the only thing i can do is to run the cd as boot-cd04:13
patwhat do you propose: boot and see?04:13
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pilgrimpat, well the  grub-install was not a DEB file04:14
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pilgrimpat, right?04:14
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patyes the grub-install was a DEB file04:14
pilgrimpat, it that's the case then do "\pool\main\g\grub-installer /dev/hda"04:14
pilgrimpat, OH!04:14
factotumis there any way to easily remove kubuntu-desktop packages from ubuntu? or do I need to go through synaptec and hunt them all down?04:14
pilgrimpat, so it was \pool\main\g\grub-installer.deb not plain grub-install?04:15
oblibI've got a package (gepdit) that is not designed for Ubuntu, and has unmet dependencies. Can I still get this installed?04:15
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pilgrimoblib, you need deps first.04:15
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oblibpilgrim, if I compile from tarball would it fail?04:15
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pilgrimpat, well. that sucks...oh...try and see if you can mount your partition (ubuntu install)04:16
pilgrimoblib, it should fail.04:16
pati'll try04:16
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pator is there a way to get a grub installer from the net?04:17
pilgrimpat, once you do that then do <mount point> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda04:17
spikehI'm trying to install Opera and I've downloaded a .deb file; what do I do with this?04:17
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pilgrimpat, it needs other stuff to.. I have no idea what but I'm pretty sure it does need other stuff.04:18
hhurttaspikeh: man dpkg04:18
Blissexspikeh: 'dpkg --install'04:18
patok i'll try04:18
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pati'll talk you next boot04:18
yumahello04:18
pilgrimok04:18
pilgrimbrb04:18
yumasomeone has any trouble with a thinkpad z60m when closes the screen and opens again?04:19
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spikehBlissex: it's returning with an error "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process04:19
spikeh"04:19
yumai'm using ubuntu 5.10 with universe and multiverse04:19
kakeiwho can pls tell me how to install baghira04:19
hhurttaspikeh: are ytou running synaptic perhaps?04:19
hhurttayou need to shut it down first04:19
Blissexspikeh: only one process can have the DPKG database active, so if you have Synaptic or Aptitude running...04:19
yumathe X video driver is i810 and the screen resolution is 1280x80004:20
spikehah oka, thanks :D04:20
kestasyuma, I used to get that on my inspiron 2200, with the i810 driver04:20
factotumis there any way to easily remove kubuntu-desktop packages from ubuntu? I thought I would give KDE a shot but didnt like it so much.04:20
yumakestas, should i change to vesa?04:20
kestasyuma, only got it on 5.04 though, when I upgraded it disappeared04:20
yumaow..04:20
kestasyuma, didn't help for me, worth a shot I guess04:20
yumakestas, ok, thanks! I'll try04:20
kestasyuma, X can be quite slow on vesa though, probably not a permeanent solution04:21
factotumIf i have to go a reinstall to fix it, thats okay. Just wondering if there is another way04:21
spikehBlissex: hhurtta: I got this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6416 ; is the installation completed?04:21
kestasyuma, if the worst comes to the worst you can stop it trying to turn the screen off when you close the lid by playing with ACPI04:21
yumakestas, i had lots of trouble when installing (CD corrupt and that stuff) so i think i'll try to reinstall it from a better CD04:22
hhurttaspikeh: not yet04:22
kestasyuma, that won't help man04:22
yatesyyea thats really annoying04:22
hhurttait returns to promt after it's donw04:22
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hhurttaprompts even04:22
kestasyuma, Id just check ubuntuforums and google and see what turns up04:22
ManifoldHow many people are here?04:22
hhurttatyp-o-matic...04:22
spikehhhurtta: yeah it has returned to prompt04:22
hhurttaspikeh: then its done04:23
kestasManifold, pretty sad aint it? new years eve and here we all are :P04:23
ManifoldMeh.04:23
ManifoldIt's only a New Year.04:23
yumakestas, ok, i did a bit of search but i don't know how to say that about close the screen in English... :C04:23
nickrudfactotum, you could try sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt04:23
ManifoldI don't celebrate something that is human made, it's not even accurate.04:23
Manifold^^04:23
spikehhhurtta: after starting Opera; it's giving me an error about plugins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641704:23
kestasManifold, what do you celebrate?04:23
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ManifoldI take that back.04:24
factotumnickrud: what would that do?04:24
kestasheh04:24
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Manifold:] 04:24
Blissexspikeh: that looks good04:24
ManifoldBack later.04:24
hhurttaspikeh: key line is #704:24
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hhurtta"04:24
hhurtta17:24  * Manifold must avoid be too generalising.04:24
hhurtta17:24 < Manifold> :] 04:24
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hhurtta17:24 < Blissex> spikeh: that looks good04:25
hhurtta17:24 < Manifold> Back later.04:25
nickrudfactotum, that would remove the qt library, which will remove all the packages that depend on it, and so on up the tree. Try apt-get --simulate remove if you're cautious04:25
hhurtta17:24 < hhurtta> spikeh: key line is #704:25
hhurtta [17:24]  [hhurtta(+i)]  [7:#ubuntu(+JPcfnt)]  [Act: 3,8] 04:25
hhurtta[#ubuntu]  "04:25
hhurttadamn!04:25
spikehhhurtta: should I install Motif using Synaptic?04:25
hhurttasorry04:25
hhurttayes04:25
erUSULhhurtta, do not paste here plaease use pastebin04:25
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factotumnickrud: thanks, I'll try simulate first04:25
hhurttaerUSUL: accidentally clicked right mouse :)04:25
apostolishi, anyone here has a TOSHIBA A30 laptop? I need to configure the modem, I found a guide but the compile fails04:25
apostolis:-(04:25
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kestasapostolis, we need more than 'the compile fails'04:26
nickrudfactotum, that doesn't quite get it all, if my memory serves. The sound server (arts) and a couple others get left behind04:26
factotumnickrud: oh thats alright, if it at least trims down the packages its a good start04:27
apostolisake[1] : Entering directory `/root/slmodem-2.9.10/modem'04:27
apostolisgcc -Wall -g -O -I. -DCONFIG_DEBUG_MODEM   -o modem_main.o -c modem_main.c04:27
apostolismodem_main.c:45:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory04:27
apostolismodem_main.c:46:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory04:27
apostolishere, it seems that something is missing04:27
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Seveasdo NOT paste04:27
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Seveas!tell apostolis about compiling04:27
spikehhhurtta: Motif isn't under Synaptic04:28
pilgrim!tell me about compiling04:28
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spikeh!tell me about compiling04:28
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hhurttaspikeh: it's probably named something like openmotif or something04:28
hhurttaI've booted to windows atm so I can't check04:29
factotumnickrud: the only snag I see right now is removing kdm, can I just reconfigure gdm somehow and then remove kdm?04:29
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factotumothwise everything else was removed just fine04:29
hhurttaspikeh: try searching from name AND description04:30
Seveasfactotum, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm04:30
apokryphosfactotum: removing kdm will automatically set gdm as default. Alternatively, you can set kdm to just be default with dpkg-reconfigure04:30
spikehhhurtta: I managed to break Synaptic's theme?04:30
factotumah alright  :D   great, thank you!!04:30
hhurttaspikeh: ?04:30
factotumI need to keep a notepad around or something hehe04:30
spikehhhurtta: the theme has changed for some reason04:30
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Seveasfactotum, apt-get install tomboy :)04:30
spikehhhurtta: it's not the KDE default now04:30
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hhurttaspikeh: tried restarting?04:31
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spikehhhurtta: the program? yes; but not a reboot04:31
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nickrudfactotum, gdm should be automatically configured as the display manager by the kdm package when kdm uninstalls itself. You can also do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm first, if you like.04:31
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apostolisis there any guide for ubuntu in order to make my modem use a specific linux driver?04:31
hhurttaspikeh: never happened to me :/04:32
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nickrudarg, walk away for a sec and not reading it all can be embarassing :)04:32
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melissasI stuck into this problem: my toshiba satellite does not boot...04:33
pilgrimmelissas, do you get any errors?04:33
Seveasmelissas, where does it stop and with which error?04:34
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erUSULapostolis, check linmodems.org04:34
melissasnot at all...my system hangs just before shutdown and boot again...04:34
pilgrimmelissas, did you try to push the power button and reboot that way?04:35
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melissasyes...it works that way...04:35
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melissasbut it doesn't reboot noramly...04:35
melissasnoramly--->normally04:36
pilgrimmelissas, so that means shutting down or rebooting is not working. Try this when you booted try "CTRL+ALT+F1"04:36
pilgrimmelissas, this will take you to command line. then do "reboot" see where it stops and if any messages are given.04:36
pilgrimmelissas, you may have to type in command prompt "sudo reboot"04:37
melissas<pilgrim>ok I do and I''be back to let you know04:37
pilgrimok04:37
melissassee you...04:37
melissasexit04:37
pilgrimlol04:37
vladimirHi, everyone04:37
pilgrimhi04:37
pilgrimvladimir, so you from Russia eh?04:38
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vladimirno bulgarian04:38
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vladimirexcuse me04:38
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vladimirhow can i Istall nvidia driver04:38
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dbernar1!nvidia04:38
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:38
factotumalright, kde is gone, worked like a charm. Thanks again everybody!04:39
vladimirNVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run04:39
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vladimirok, merci Ubotu04:40
apostolisre sis04:40
apostolista linux headers by default pou skata mpenoune?04:40
apostolisgiait mou ta eftise sto /usr/src/ k den ta vlepei to programa pou thelw na kanw compile04:40
apostolisden mporo na mpw k sto linuxaki gamoto04:40
vladimiri don't understand04:40
vladimirok04:40
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Seveasapostolis, english in here04:41
Seveas!tell vladimir about nvidia04:41
Seveasmah04:41
Seveasstupid me :)04:41
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kestasanyone know of an analogue clock software I can use, which is nice and large?04:42
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jeroen__hey hi04:42
jeroen__what's up here04:42
spikehI'm looking for a package called xlib6g but it can't be found under Synaptic04:43
apostoliswhere the linux-headers located by default? Not inside the /usr/src dir... as far as I remember ?04:43
Seveaskestas, there's most likely a gdesklet for that04:43
apostoliswhere *are* the..04:43
kestasgood thinking batmat04:43
kestasbatman04:43
Seveasapokryphos, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:44
Seveasapostolis*04:44
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apostolisSeveas: I did installed them from Adept04:44
gnomefreakwhois would find name from ip?04:44
apostolisand I can see them inside teh /usr/src dir04:44
Seveasapostolis, good, then they're in /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:44
erUSULkestas, a toy by guido van rossum; http://en.pastebin.ca/3538404:45
pilgrimgnomefreak, nope.04:45
pilgrimgnomefreak, try it, it gives some other info04:45
gnomefreaki just did04:45
apostolisSeveas: cool, now remains a way to pass the path to the program.04:45
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jeroen__hi if i want skype ..witch prog do i need? does anyone knows?04:46
kestaserUSUL, thanks but then I'd have to install the Tkinter module and check the script for nasties04:46
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antonio__problem with mpc, Thank for advanced04:46
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PeteyCrackjeroen__:04:47
PeteyCracksudo apt-get install skype04:47
jeroen__hey pet:)04:47
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andrew__can i use a debian .deb on ubuntu (breezy)?04:47
jeroen__if i need a programm i just type that in my terminal...04:47
visik7andrew__: maybe04:47
andrew__i want to show my mom my program, but no one's written a deb for it (i use a different distro myself).04:48
andrew__visik7: how can i tell?04:48
apokryphosandrew__: generally not a good idea04:48
jeroen__ive looked on the internet but i can chose between 6 diferent skype's04:48
apokryphos!skype04:48
ubotufrom memory, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/04:48
visik7andrew__: try to install it04:48
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visik7andrew__:04:49
ablysshi all, i installed a nvidia graphics driver the other day.. but I am not sure if it installed correclty. Is there a way I can check to see if its installed and working correclty?04:49
visik7andrew__: if it doesn't complain about missing packages you can use it04:49
andrew__apokryphos: when i used ubuntu, i recall it being incredibly difficult to create a .deb; do you know of any documentation?04:49
visik7andrew__: btw what program is ?04:49
andrew__visik7, ah, ok.  cool.04:49
andrew__visik7, pygmy: http://pygmy.berlios.de04:49
apokryphosablyss: if X accepts it, with nvidia being used as the driver, then it worked.04:49
Seveasandrew__, creating a deb is not the easiest thing, because there are lots of rules about quality04:49
apokryphosandrew__: debian packaging is an art :)04:49
Seveasapokryphos, so true :)04:50
apokryphosandrew__: but there are a few guides about. One sec.04:50
ablyssapokryphos, right.. but my previous installation of the driver would popup the nvidia logo during bootup.. i'm not getting the logo now though04:50
andrew__Seveas, apokryphos: not to flame, but that's one of the reasons i switched to arch.  too high a learning curve to contribute packages on debian/ubuntu!04:50
apokryphosandrew__: this is quite a good guide, but what's more valuable is the links it provides http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide04:51
Seveasandrew__, you just have to practice a lot and ask experienced packagers questions04:51
apokryphosablyss: in xorg.conf is nvidia specified as the driver?04:51
andrew__Seveas, i may just give that a try.04:51
jeroen__ok i'm on the skype site but what must i do now to make it work?04:51
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apokryphosjeroen__: follow the wiki guide04:51
jeroen__ok04:51
melissas<pilgrim> i am back04:51
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andrew__honestly, after installing ubuntu for my family's computer, i'm reminded of how nice it is for many things and how much i'd like to use it (for its automation).  the backports really make it usable IMO.04:51
pilgrimmelissas, hi04:52
melissaswell04:52
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ablyssapokryphos, yes thanks04:52
jeroen__it says thes a problem skype is not working well04:52
melissasno messages...last message I saw , was rebooting...but it doen't reboot04:52
apokryphosablyss: then that should be working. You can check to see if Ubuntu knows it exists from an lspci|grep -i nvidia04:53
melissaseverything seems normal except rebooting04:53
apokryphos(note that doesn't necessarily mean you had the driver installed)04:53
ablyssapokryphos, okay04:53
andrew__apokryphos, thanks for the link; i would never have thought to check the kubuntu wiki (or is it on the ubuntu one also?)04:53
apokryphosandrew__: same wiki04:53
andrew__apokryphos, ah, ok. ^_^04:53
apostoliswhich package containts the /usr/include's ?04:53
apostolisI can't find glibc pacakge :-( through adept04:54
pilgrimmelissas, hard to say without erros ..impossible  to predict04:54
jeroen__what is the wiki guide.. there isnt a linck i can click on to download it...04:54
apokryphosapostolis: install build-essential04:54
apokryphos!tell jeroen__ about skype04:54
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TatsterDoes anyone know of Samba can deal with applying Windows Global Policy settings?  For example if I don't have a Windows DC.04:54
gnomefreakis there a command to find out more info on an ip address other than whois?04:55
melissas<pilgrim>tell me again the boot processing CTRL+ what???04:55
jeroen__ive installed skype before but that whas with windows...04:55
apokryphosjeroen__: so follow the wiki link that ubotu just sent you. It's a Skype HowTo04:55
pilgrimCTRLALTF104:55
melissasand then sudo what???04:55
gnomefreaki have a feeling this email is a virus for winows being on linux i cant open the attacments04:56
apostolisanyone managed to use the modem with ubuntu at a toshiba a30 laptop?04:56
gnomefreakand im not sure how to unecrypt an 8bit04:56
erUSULTatster, i'm not sure but maybe with pdbedit04:56
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alexwillmerhi all. In the output of top, what is does the 'wa' cpu field represent?04:58
andrew__apokryphos, do i use dpkg to install a deb file that i've downloaded?  (it's been a while.)04:59
pilgrimmelissas, sorry, then "sudo reboot"04:59
apokryphosandrew__: dpkg -i, yes.04:59
andrew__apokryphos, cheers.04:59
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pilgrimmelissas, if you already tried that with no results, try "sudo shutdown"04:59
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melissas<pilgrim>ok i will give it a try05:00
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pilgrimmeepy, 'right05:00
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Neihi, ubuntu throws kernel messages directly in my current window05:00
Neihow can I stop that?05:01
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Neie.g.:05:01
Nei[4307165.023000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).05:01
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Neia tad annoying; as it destroys screen layout of textmode gui programs05:01
erUSULpilgrim, melissas 'sudo shutdown -r now'05:01
pilgrimerUSUL, urr...sorry, you're right.05:01
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Neior sudo poweroff ;)05:02
Neieeh05:02
Neisudo reboot in this case I guess05:02
pilgrimlol05:02
pilgrimexcept it doesn't work for her.05:02
moo__Hello, I'm running Ubuntu on this computer, and as you can see, I'm on here, yet I can't reach anything over httpd, this is just a default install and I've tried more than one NIC, any one have any idea as to what could be wrong?05:02
alexwillmernei, you might have syslog convfigured to send that to the current console, look at /etc/syslog.conf05:02
moo__*http05:02
pilgrimmoo__, so you have ftp and stuff?05:03
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moo__pilgrim, well lemme test telnet again.05:03
pilgrimmoo__, you logged in with same machine?05:03
moo__pilgrim, yup, I'm running on XChat on the same machine05:03
jeroen__well it cant open '/var/lib/apt/lists/lock' what does thAT MEAN?05:04
pilgrimmoo__, so you do have net. and hmm....hmm...never seen this.05:04
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Neialexwillmer, mhm thanks for the hint but I don't see anything obvious in there05:04
pilgrimmoo__, what about pinging stuff "ping google.com"05:04
alexwillmerNei, one sec05:04
moo__pilgrim, I can use telnet, I can use IRC, DNS is working (cause I got onto EFNet without an ip)05:05
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pilgrimmoo__, try https05:05
Neialexwillmer, I'm using a default install, can't remember having changed anything in the aspect of error messages output05:05
moo__pilgrim, pings come back.05:05
erUSULjeroen__, you have another program accesing the apt db (synaptic?)05:05
jeroen__i dont know05:05
pilgrimmoo__, the the port might be blocked (port 80 that is)05:05
jeroen__how can i close it?05:06
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moo__pilgrim, it can't be blocked on my network, because I have another computer on the same router that has no problems.05:06
cvt|nixmashttp://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting  I follow the instructions on that site but run into problems from the beginning for java, can u help?05:06
pilgrimmoo__, hmm....05:06
Seveas!tell cvt|nixmas about java05:06
pilgrimmoo__, real interesting.05:06
moo__pilgrim, and frustrating :P05:06
cvt|nixmasSeveas, i run into problems with those instructions too05:06
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pilgrimmoo__, switch browsers. or whatever you're using05:07
moo__pilgrim, does Ubuntu come with more than one browser?05:07
Seveascvt|nixmas, just download a .deb file with java and use that05:07
moo__I don't have a way to get another browser on here if it doesn't.05:07
alexwillmernei, can you paste the contents of that file here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:07
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lysishi05:07
Seveasmoo__, firefox, epiphany, konqueror, dillo, w3m, lynx, links, emacs05:08
hericusHas anyone used squid before? I'm having some slight problems with even installing it.05:08
lysisanybody here using E17?05:08
cvt|nixmasSeveas, where do i get the .deb file?05:08
Seveashericus, what's the problem05:08
Seveascvt|nixmas, mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl for instance05:08
moo__Seveas, er, I may be using an old version, I just tried to bring up Lynx and got nothing.05:08
hericusI keep getting errors when I ./configure05:08
Seveasmoo__, apt-get install lynx05:08
hericusOne sec, I'll show ya..05:08
Seveashericus, apt-get install squid05:08
Seveasdo NOT compile from source05:09
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hericusCouldn't find package squid05:09
lysisoops . . . anybody here using E17?05:09
jeroen__erusul it sais acces denied///05:09
Seveashericus, enable universe05:09
Seveas!tell hericus about repos05:09
Seveas!+INFO squid05:09
ubotusquid: has nothing about INFO05:09
Seveas!+info squid05:09
ubotusquid: (Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.5.10-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 731 kB, Installed size: 2060 kB05:10
Neialexwillmer, sure thing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641805:10
erUSULjeroen__, when? doing what?05:10
hericusHm.05:10
Seveasit's even in main...05:10
cvt|nixmasSeveas, which version should i get; re or sdk?05:10
moo__"Package lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:10
moo__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:10
moo__is only available from another source05:10
moo__"05:10
pilgrimmoo__, let me know what (if anything) solves your problem.05:10
Seveashericus, sources.list on the pastebin please05:10
moo__Er, sorry.05:10
alexwillmernei, one sec05:10
Seveasmoo__, NEVER paste05:10
Seveascvt|nixmas, do you want to compile java things or just run them?05:10
jeroen__with typing apt-get install skype05:11
hericusAlright, thanks Seveas.05:11
cvt|nixmasjust run them05:11
cvt|nixmasfor java sites05:11
Seveascvt|nixmas, j2re05:11
pilgrimmoo__, try links05:11
jeroen__(13) acces denied05:11
Seveasjeroen__, from where?05:11
pilgrimmoo__, that is "sudo apt-get install links"05:11
erUSULjeroen__, sudo apt-get install skype05:11
alexwillmernei, ok sorry for the blind alley, that looks fine, I don't know what else it could be05:12
jeroen__i tipe that in that terminal05:12
moo__pilgrim, says it can't find it.05:12
Neialexwillmer, :( thanks for trying to help05:12
moo__I'05:12
moo__I'm not sure if apt-get is connected to anything.05:12
pilgrimmoo__, I'm installing right now05:12
moo__Does it use http to access the packages?05:12
pilgrimmoo__, it shouldn't05:12
Seveasmoo__, depends on your sources.list05:12
Seveaseither http or ftp05:12
cvt|nixmasSeveas,  i have dapper. does that matter?05:12
jeroen__ok now it askes password but i cant type it05:13
Seveascvt|nixmas, possibly, but shouldn't matter05:13
pilgrimmoo__, yeah it does. by default (ithink) use http05:13
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pilgrimmoo__, try this ftp://ftp.redhat.com/05:14
moo__Seveas, where is that file located?05:14
pilgrimmoo__, in firefox or whatever browser you got05:14
erUSULjeroen__, why you can not type it?05:15
Seveasmoo__, /etc/apt/sources.list05:15
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moo__pilgrim, it works05:15
moo__I see a pub directory.05:15
jeroen__it wont show tha carakters05:15
moo__Seveas, thanks.05:15
pilgrimmoo__, then I definitely think there is some thing firewalling http05:15
jeroen__now i'm back at username$.....05:15
pilgrimmoo__, check router firewall rules.05:15
hericusSeveas, thanks again.05:16
erUSULjeroen__, you do not see the characters but they are there. just type the pass and hit enter05:16
cvt|nixmasSeveas, it's not obeying the commands.05:16
jeroen__ok done but nothing happening05:16
Seveascvt|nixmas, what's the problem?05:17
cvt|nixmasSeveas, following the java instructions.05:17
alexwillmerIn the output of top, what is does the 'wa' cpu field represent?05:17
mase!limewire05:17
ubotusomebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.05:17
Seveascvt|nixmas, did you download the .deb file?05:17
cvt|nixmasyes, 1.505:17
Seveaswhere did you download it to?05:17
cvt|nixmasdesktop05:18
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Seveascvt|nixmas, then try this command: sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun*deb05:18
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cvt|nixmas"locked by another process"05:18
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moo__Seveas, all the lines that download the packages from the net were commented, and when I uncommented it errored trying to reach it, are there FTP URLs to replace them? (Since my FTP seems to be working and HTTP not so)05:19
Seveascvt|nixmas, close synaptic, apt-get, adept and all other package managers05:19
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Seveasmoo__, the standard repositories work fine via ftp, just replace http with ftp05:19
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moo__Seveas, ah okay.05:20
cvt|nixmasSeveas, it finished doing something.05:20
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Seveascvt|nixmas, java -version05:21
cvt|nixmas"1.4.2"05:21
Seveasah05:21
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Seveassudo update-alternatives --config java05:21
Seveassudo update-alternatives --config javac05:21
Seveassudo update-alternatives --config jar05:21
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Seveasand always choose the sun java05:21
Hericus"W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release: Unknown error executing gpgv"05:22
SeveasHericus, try archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com05:23
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dbernar1!gpgerr05:23
ubotuhmm... gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal05:23
Seveasthe us mirror is often broken05:23
masehow do i play shoutcast on amarok05:23
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HericusOh.. alright, thanks.05:23
cvt|nixmasSeveas, i enter all three of those commands?05:23
Seveascvt|nixmas, yes05:24
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Seveascvt|nixmas, and always choose the sun java when it asks05:24
cvt|nixmasSeveas, i only saw "sun java" after the first command.05:24
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cvt|nixmasSeveas, leave the rest default?05:24
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dbernar1cvt|nixmas: change them all to sun's Java is what he said, it seems.05:25
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cvt|nixmasdbernar1, but i don't know how and i didn't see that option after the commands05:25
pacomeHEYYY!!!05:25
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pacome:(05:26
Seveascvt|nixmas, sudo update-alternatives --config java, don't enter anything but make a screenshot and upload it to the pastebin05:26
pilgrimHI!05:26
apokryphoshi pacome05:26
mgwhow to use the windows-button combined with e.g. "e" to open the user home folder? i can not compine the windows button with another button.05:26
benplautwhat's the lightest stable *box out there? i need a very minimal X (no, i don't want twm05:26
pilgrimbenplaut, enlightment05:27
pacomeyop!! apokryphos05:27
Seveasben_d, fluxbox05:27
pilgrimbenplaut, xfce05:27
dbernar1\heh.05:27
benplautheh05:27
Seveaspilgrim, E and xfce are monsters compared to fluxbox :)05:27
dbernar1I like openbox05:27
pilgrimSeveas, true05:27
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Seveasopenbox is good too05:27
benplautso... how do blackbox, openbox, and flux compare?05:28
Hericusfvwm is awesome.05:28
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HericusThere basically the same thing, with modifications in style I think..05:28
pilgrimbenplaut, I think they're all like the same05:28
lysisi tried flux and i didn't like it.  i want something graphical and downright amazing.  i'm using E17 right now, i just don't know what i'm doing. :)05:28
pilgrimbenplaut, fluxbox has a good reputation05:28
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HericusYes, it does.. fvwm is amazing however.05:28
andrew__argh... apokryphos, i see what you mean.  only some debian packages work on ubuntu! -_-05:29
apostoliswhere do I put the commands that  I want for ubuntu to run on startup?05:29
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apokryphosandrew__: what package are you trying to install?05:29
apostolisI need to pass this string slmodemd --country=GREECE /dev/slamr0 <-- and then ctrl+c (exit)05:29
andrew__apokryphos, python-empy (which, as far as i could tell) doesn't have an ubuntu package.05:29
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dbernar1benplaut: I can tell you that openbox is cool cause it has a "Ubuntu" skin - brown, check out ubuntuforums.org, and search for "openbox stormy", that will give you instructions. Also you can use the mouse scroll wheel to roll up windows, when you scroll up when the mouse cursor is over the title bar, which makes it convenient to have many windows open. It also supports workspaces. I never used black and flux boxes much, so I do not k05:29
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cvt|nixmasSeveas, http://pastebin.com/48541505:30
Seveascvt|nixmas, so in that screen you choose 505:31
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cvt|nixmasyes05:31
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Seveasthat one has sun in the name05:31
Seveassame for jar05:31
cvt|nixmasSeveas, that was the only one that said sun though05:31
Seveasand javac (if available)05:31
andrew__apokryphos, on debian it requires python2.3, but even installing that doesn't work because for some reason, the dependency for python-empy is python <<2.4...05:31
Seveasjar said only sun? good :)05:31
cvt|nixmasSeveas, no05:31
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andrew__apokryphos: ...so they conflict.  ugh.05:31
cvt|nixmasSeveas, the others did not say sun05:31
apokryphosandrew__: that's the problem with debian packs, a lot of the time. You're going to get dependency hell, and could bugger up your package management system.05:32
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Seveashmm, can you pastebin the output from the jar one?05:32
apostolisWhere to I put shell commands that I want to run at startup?05:32
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Seveasthe javac one was to be expected :)05:32
dbernar1apostolis: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:32
[eDu] hi05:32
andrew__apokryphos, yeah.  but this is where i hit a wall last time i used it: if you need a package that's not in the ubuntu repositories, you're almost SOL.05:32
dbernar1apostolis: does that file exist.05:32
Dagdacan I register my nickname here?05:33
apostolisdbernar1: If not I will create it...05:33
cvt|nixmasSeveas, http://pastebin.com/48541605:33
apokryphosandrew__: a rare thing, but why not compile or get directly from their site?05:33
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andrew__apokryphos, IMO that has more potential of buggering up the system.  but i guess i could. :)05:33
dbernar1apostolis: nono, tell me whether it is there.05:33
apokryphosandrew__: errm, how?05:33
apokryphosnot at all05:33
andrew__apokryphos, after all, it is just python stuff, a cinch to install.05:33
Seveascvt|nixmas, java -version should now say "1.5.0"05:33
j2daoshis there a way to get the actual yahoo messenger on linux? the one with voice/cam capabilities?05:33
dbernar1apostolis: I may have the path wrong.05:33
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dbernar1ChaKy: hi.05:34
andrew__apokryphos, but you lose track of the files; there's no management of them and nothing "owns" them...05:34
j2daoshi have gaim installed but it doesn't allow for those 2 options05:34
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Seveas!ymsgr05:34
ubotuSeveas: What?05:34
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Seveas!listvals yahoo05:34
j2daoshand i did an install on ymessenger but it doesn't look like its on my system05:34
ubotuFactoid search of 'yahoo' by value (3 shown): gaim2 ;; yahoo ;; kopete.05:34
cvt|nixmasSeveas, correct 1.5.005:34
Seveas!yahoo05:34
ubotuwell, yahoo is at http://www.yahoo.com05:34
apostolisdbernar1: the path is correct05:34
Seveas!forget yahoo05:34
ubotuSeveas: i forgot yahoo05:34
j2daoshyeah i know05:34
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Seveascvt|nixmas, then you're done :)05:34
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j2daoshi been there... when i get the debian package it says im missing a bunch of dependencies05:35
Seveassorry about the confusion with javac/jar, it seems that that is not needed :)05:35
dbernar1apostolis: that is where you add the commands. I do not know how you would add the "ctrl+c"05:35
pilgrimSeveas, can anyone tell ubotu to forget stuff?05:35
cvt|nixmasSeveas, tyvm05:35
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j2daoshso seveas... if i used the apt-get command to install yahoo... where will i find it?05:37
benplautwhat command would tell me the router's external IP, (IE, that reported by whatsmyip.org)05:37
j2daosh/usr/bin or just /bin?05:37
Seveasj2daosh, not a clue, sorry05:37
Seveas/usr/bin05:37
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pilgrim!unforget yahoo05:37
ubotupilgrim: Successfully recovered 'yahoo'.  Have fun now.05:37
Seveas /bin is reserved for special things05:37
pilgrim!yahoo05:37
ubotuyahoo is, like, at http://www.yahoo.com05:37
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j2daoshseveas... was the /usr/bin for me or someone else?05:38
Seveasyes05:38
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HericusUh.. "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"05:38
Seveas(you)05:38
j2daosh:) thanks05:38
SeveasHericus, apt-get update05:38
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navaroneSeveas /usr/bin has binaries that are available to all users at cli yes?05:38
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HericusCodine sucks.05:39
HrdwrBoBHericus: codeine05:39
Seveasnavarone, /bin too :)05:39
navaroneokie05:39
Hericus;)05:39
Seveasnavarone, /usr is allowed to be on a separate partition, /bin contains things that are neccessary before that partition is mounted05:39
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navaroneSeveas...essentially all binaries there are in ytour "path"...?05:39
j2daoshwhat is the purpose of the /opt directory?05:39
apokryphosj2daosh: some distros use that instead of /usr (i.e. suse)05:40
Zambbaj2daosh: Commercial programs install there05:40
navaronegotcha05:40
Seveasj2daosh, locally installed things instead of packages05:40
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Draken!nvidia05:40
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ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:40
HericusHrdwrBoB, I took like 24 pills of nurofen+ yesterday.. only codeine though. I feel really, really screwed.05:40
j2daoshok... so its like the /program files on a winblows box?05:40
ZambbaSeveas: wasn't the locally installed program directory /usr/local ?05:40
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Seveasboth05:40
Zambbaok05:40
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Seveas /opt is the traditional unix one, /usr/local is the modern linux one05:41
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dbernar1haha05:41
HrdwrBoBHericus: nurofen is not codeine, nurofen is ibuprofen05:41
dbernar1Seveas: how many hours do you help here for each day?05:41
Seveasdbernar1, 3005:41
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dbernar1Seveas: not possible.>:(05:41
HericusHrdwrBoB, nurofen+ contains codeine along with ibuprofen.05:41
gnomefreaklol Seveas feels like it some days05:42
SeveasHrdwrBoB, Hericus -> #ubuntu-offtopic please05:42
HrdwrBoByes05:42
Hericus:)05:42
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Seveasgnomefreak, with some people, indeed05:42
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navaronethe Dr is in...lol05:42
Dr_WillisYep.05:43
Dr_WillisWoke up befor Noon today!05:43
Dr_Willisdoing good.05:43
navaronewoot05:43
navaroneme too05:43
Dr_Willisgotta love 2nd shift.05:43
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gnomefreakty Dr_Willis05:43
navaroneIs Dapper set to release in April?05:44
dbernar1Seveas: serious, do you think you know how many hours?05:44
apokryphosnavarone: yes05:44
gnomefreaknavarone, yes05:44
Seveasnavarone, correct05:44
navaroneokay05:44
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Dr_WillisNo! :p05:44
Dr_Willisok.. yes..05:44
Seveasdbernar1, it ranges between 2 and 1005:44
Seveasor maybe more even05:44
dbernar1Seveas: cool, thanks.05:44
Seveastime flies :)05:44
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gnomefreaktake linus 6 months to perfect an OS takes microsoft oh hell they still havent come close yet :)05:44
navaroneit certainly does05:44
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Dr_WillisI still find it a little odd the every 6mo release.. :P but it has its pros and cons I guess.05:45
Seveas(That was when I got to know Ubuntu: It was love at first sight :))05:45
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apokryphosSeveas: first thing I remember doing well was enabling Universe repository to get KDE :P05:45
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Seveasapokryphos, first thing I was so glad about was that it was GNOME based ;)05:45
Seveas(and that it actually installed on my laptop)05:46
navaronemy first milestone was getting mouse to work in breezy...took about 5 minutes...<s>05:46
Seveashehe05:46
apokryphosSeveas: I don't mind it too -- makes for an interesting combination (using kde, that is).05:46
Seveasmy first milestone was wpa/802.1x05:46
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Seveaswhich took me over a year to implement correctly :)05:46
irmahow did u install something/// i whasnt loged in as su.. apt-get or somethning?05:46
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gnomefreakirma, sudo apt-get05:46
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Seveas!tell irma about sudo05:46
irmathx05:47
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apostoliswhich is the bash env variable for c plus plus?05:47
Seveasdbernar1, it seems so very much longer than 14 months :)05:47
Seveasapostolis, wtf?!05:47
dbernar1Seveas: why is that?05:47
Seveasyou're making no sense at all05:47
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Seveasdbernar1, because it's so much fun to use and support Ubuntu :)05:47
dbernar1haha05:48
spikehsomehow the appearance of Synaptic changed and is not the theme that I'm using, how could I fix this?05:48
apostolisSeveas: I need to compile a program in c++. I installed the compiler g++ now I need to export the g++-3.4 to the default one..05:48
Seveasspikeh, it probably uses the them that root uses05:48
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apostolisSeveas: so, I'm looking for something like "export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" for g++05:48
spikehSeveas: it was fine until I started it05:48
Seveasapokryphos, export CXX=g++-3.405:48
spikehSeveas: I mean, it was fine when kubuntu was installed but it suddenly changed05:48
yuretz2004hi ! how can I download nvidia driver for my ubuntu?05:49
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Seveas!nvidia05:49
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ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:49
yuretz2004!nvidia05:49
Seveasread what Ubotu said...05:49
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gnomefreakeveryone does that :(05:49
lysisso how do i attach gdk or whatever E17 said to attach.  i want to debug an error05:49
yuretz2004!nvidia05:49
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:49
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navaronequestion...just for curiosity...I do not have /home on seperate partition. But if I want to move it to one is it simply a question of resizing current partition and using soemthign like mv -dpr  / or cp -dpr to new partition space?05:50
Seveaslysis, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures05:50
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HericusSeveas, I'm still getting errors.05:51
HericusAfter apt-get update.05:51
Hericus"W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv05:51
HericusW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv05:51
HericusW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv05:51
HericusW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv05:51
HericusW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release: Unknown error executing gpgv05:51
HericusW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems05:51
Hericus"05:51
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apostolisanyone knows which package contains libz? I get this error -> checking for libz... configure: error: not found.05:51
dbernar1!win me05:51
ubotudbernar1: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:51
gnomefreakHericus, use pastebin to paste oh nm05:51
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dbernar1Yes, and so did Hrericus.05:51
Seveasapokryphos, zlib1g-dev05:51
apokryphosSeveas: third time ;-)05:52
navaronethird time's the charm05:52
Seveasaaaaaarrgggghhh05:52
Seveasstupid much too similar nicknames05:52
Seveasprobably KDE users :p05:52
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apokryphos8)05:52
=== gnomefreak installed kde to help with the kde questions we get in here :)
andrew__apokryphos, thanks for the suggestion.  it was trivial to install manually. ^_^  no lesson learned today, but i can revisit when i have more time. :)  cheers!05:53
spikehSeveas: how do I log in as administrator to change the theme?05:53
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navaronegnomefreak, how do you find it...? and don't say "it's all in the menus"...lol05:53
apokryphosgnomefreak: far more in #kubuntu too ;-)05:53
Seveasspikeh, gksudo gnome-theme-manager05:53
Dr_Acemasterhow do i find out the ip of my comptuer?05:53
gnomefreaknavarone, find kde? its in the sources :)05:54
SeveasDr_Acemaster, ifconfig05:54
theconartistroflstix05:54
navaroneargh05:54
spikehSeveas: gksudo is not a valid command05:54
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: thanks05:54
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theconartistyour ip is 127.0.0.1 Dr_Acemaster05:54
gnomefreakis it just me that gets warning when using gksudo?05:54
Dr_Acemastertheconartist: funny05:54
spikehSeveas: I'm using Kubuntu05:54
theconartistactually it is 71.115.135.4005:54
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Seveasspikeh, kdesu then :)05:55
Seveasspikeh, and another theme manager05:55
Seveasask the KDE guys, apokryphos perhaps05:55
spikehalright05:55
spikehthanks05:55
bobbydhi05:55
apokryphoskdesu, yup05:55
apokryphosthe Kubuntu one is patched to use sudo appropriately05:55
bobbyddoes anyone here have battlefield 2 working under breezy using cedega? The installer just crashes for me05:56
spikehapokryphos: what's the command?05:56
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theconartistlol05:56
theconartistbobbyd, what kind of crazy computer do you have that will run battlefield2 under cedega?05:56
Dr_Acemastertheconartist: hmm... and yours is 24.117.148.180?05:56
Dr_Willistheconartist,  heh heh :P05:56
theconartistDr_Acemaster, negative05:57
Dr_Acemasterheh05:57
Dr_Acemastersuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure05:57
theconartistthats my freinds server's ip05:57
samitheberberDr_Acemaster: I always go to http://www.whatismyip.com and there I see my ip :D05:57
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Dr_AcemasterI wanted my lan ip, not wan ip05:57
bobbydtheconartist, runs fine under other distrtos, cedega isn't an emulator you know...05:57
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Dr_AcemasterSeveas: already answered thanks :)05:57
theconartistbobbyd, i know it isnt05:57
theconartistbobbyd, but it is still slower05:57
samitheberberoh05:57
ninnghizidhaAnyone managed to get the composite-etensions to work with an radeon-card?05:58
gnomefreakis ubuntu always gonna be debian based or can they pull out on own someday?05:58
bobbydtheconartist, only if the functionality has to be emulated, for  lot of games it's possible to run themat the same speed05:58
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  some would say its a full fork now.. but the improvements get sent back to debian...05:59
bobbydtheconartist, it's a GF6 and XP2800 anyway, not so crazy :)05:59
apokryphosgnomefreak: the way the system is, the package management, is debian-based. You can't really change your base without going back in time 8)05:59
apokryphosgnomefreak: and plus: ubuntu still syncs and gives back to sid every six months05:59
moo__Is there anything that would be on a default Ubuntu install that could interfere with outgoing packets to port 80?05:59
gnomefreakigood point05:59
gnomefreak-i05:59
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dbernar1fork:-/06:00
dbernar1moo__: no.06:00
Seveasmoo__, iptables -L06:00
dbernar1why, can not connect to your web server from the Internet?06:00
Seveasand you'll see :)06:00
gnomefreaki was just thinking about people who come in here saying "it works on debian" doesnt always mean its gonna work on ubuntu06:00
dbernar1gnomefreak: what works? and, ya, it does not mean it works in Ubuntu.06:01
chriswoodallcan I update to Firefox 1.5?06:01
chriswoodallwithout updating to dapper06:02
apokryphoschriswoodall: yes, the guide is on the wiki06:02
dbernar1chriswoodall: sure, go aheadf.06:02
chriswoodalllink to the wiki>06:02
gnomefreakother than apt i dont see much in common with debian i personally think ubuntu have surpast debian06:02
Seveas!ff1.506:02
ubotuSeveas: Wish i knew06:02
gnomefreak!firefox1.506:02
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:02
Seveas!ff1.5 is <reply> see firefox1.506:02
ubotuSeveas: okay06:02
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chriswoodallubotu: thnks06:02
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chriswoodall06:02
chriswoodallall: thnxs06:03
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chriswoodalllol forgot unotu is a bot06:03
chriswoodallubotu06:03
davidlee1othdoes anyone know the name of the repository that i can find mplayer?  it sounds like malirat?06:03
Seveasdavidlee1oth, cipherfunkl06:03
HrdwrBoBdavidlee1oth: mplayer is in multiverse06:03
Seveasand mplayer is even in multiverse06:03
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X_Machinehi06:04
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davidlee1othwell, do you guys know the name of that malirat repo?06:04
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X_Machinenope06:04
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chriswoodalloh and how stable is dapper flight 2?06:04
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binaryhell everybody06:04
deFryskhell ?06:04
aTypicalHell binary06:04
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gnomefreaki think he means the debian repo great now i cant think of it06:04
binaryhaha ,hello06:04
X_MachineHell U 2 !06:04
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binarysorry06:05
ubuntuhi guys, i'm running the live cd to try converting a primary partition to logical06:05
ubuntuis it possible with gparted?06:05
cocoxhi friends, how can i look my current instaled aplications by commands and the version of them?06:05
navaroneHow complicated is getting games to work in cedega? And is cedega available in binary or only source?06:05
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bshumatecocox: dpkg -l | less06:05
Seveascocox, dpkg -l | less06:05
gnomefreaknavarone, i could be wrong but i think only source06:06
binaryi am new here06:06
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Seveasnavarone, depends on the game, source only06:06
chriswoodallis cedega avalable fo rppc?06:06
chriswoodallfor ppc?06:06
Seveasno06:06
chriswoodallk06:06
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Seveas^506:06
chriswoodallthat one word saved me 15 dollars06:06
dbernar1!cedega06:06
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/06:06
navaronehmm...is wine an acceptable alternative if you only wish to play games?06:06
Seveasno06:06
navaroneokie06:06
X_MachineI do06:06
cocoxSeveas, bshumate  thnx u guys!06:06
thegladiatori dont like the way the windows are minimized when i click on it . the default scheme is show a sqare thats winds up into the gnome panel . is there anyway I can change it ?06:07
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chriswoodalland how can I get mol to work?06:07
freemanenwhat pacakage do need to install LAMP on ubuntu?06:07
gnomefreak!lamp06:07
chriswoodalland does it work with tiger (before I upgrade to tiger)06:07
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:07
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thegladiatorcan someone tell me how I could change the way the windows minimizes ? the default scheme is to hide the window and show a sqauer that winds up into the gnome panel at the bottom06:09
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thegladiatorhope you guys understand what i really want to change06:09
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binaryhappy now year .06:09
thegladiatorhappy new year06:10
deFryskthegladiator, no clue what you mean06:10
dbernar1thegladiator: and what would you like it to do?06:10
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dbernar1thegladiator: not show the square?06:10
binarythank you06:10
cocoxand just in case.. if i have the installed the amsn version 0.94 and is available the release 0.95 which is the best way to make the update? re-installing or making something like dpkg -update ??06:10
thegladiatorthe windoes , like say X chat window for eg. , suppose i have to minimize it , the default scheme is to show a sqauer that winds up into the panel06:10
darkheartHello, I was looking for a little hep with the ATI binary driver. I installed it, but can't get the fglrx module to load and I can see in the log that DRI is not enabled.06:10
deFryskdbernar1, remove the windowslist06:10
thegladiatordbernar1, exaclty or to change it to something else06:11
thegladiatordeFrysk, how do i  ? is it something to configuer in nautilus or what ?06:11
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navaronethegladiator, are you trying to disable the animations?06:11
deFryskthegladiator, no06:11
dbernar1thegladiator: do you know what the gconf is?06:11
thegladiatorhave some idea of gconf yes06:11
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deFryskwhere it ends up in a lil square you have a grabber , right click it and remove it06:11
thegladiatornavarone, yes in a way i dont like that animation06:11
cvt|nixmashas anyone upgraded to firefox 1.5 yet?06:12
chriswoodallhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:12
CanoeingkiddHow do I change file associations in Nautilus?06:12
gnomefreaki did but i went back to 1.0.7 :)06:12
thegladiatorhow do i change deFrysk ?06:12
cvt|nixmasany reason?06:12
thegladiatornavarone, how do i ?06:12
dbernar1go there, go into nautilus, and check off the option to use some minimal resources.06:12
deFryskchange me ?06:12
dbernar1or something like that.06:12
thegladiatorlet me06:12
dbernar1thegladiator: ^06:12
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deFrysk;p06:12
odathi everyone06:13
chriswoodallany one here use dapper?06:13
KindredCanoeingkidd: right click a file, properties - open with06:13
deFrysk<--dapper06:13
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gnomefreak<<<used to use dapper06:13
binaryhi  odat06:13
odatanyone know of an easy way to use fsck?06:13
navaronethegladiator,  try Sytem Tool/Configuration Editor in Applications menu...go to Desktop gnome/interface and toggle "enable animations" to false ie uncheck box and see if that works06:13
chriswoodallhow good is it?06:13
gnomefreakchriswoodall,  its not done yet its very buggy still06:13
deFryskchriswoodall, good as in bleeding unstable06:14
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gnomefreakas for FF1.5 i think FF1.0.7 is more stable in breezy06:14
chriswoodallk so just dont update yet?06:14
deFryskchriswoodall, if you have to ask you should not no06:14
gnomefreakchriswoodall,  i would wait06:15
thegladiatorand shud i restart nautilus ? how can i do that ?06:15
chriswoodallk06:15
CanoeingkiddKindred: but it still defaults to something else06:15
davidlee1othdoes anyone know how to reconfigure apt?06:15
thegladiatorkillall nautilus ?06:15
deFryskdavidlee1oth, reconfigure ?06:15
Kindredthegladiator: nautilus -q06:15
jeoriwhat does "no acceptable cc found in $PATH" mean?06:16
odatanyone know of an easy way to use fsck?06:16
thegladiatorthat makes it a lil better navarone06:16
cocoxif i have the installed the amsn version 0.94 and is available the release 0.95 which is the best way to make the update? re-installing or making something like dpkg -update ??06:16
KindredCanoeingkidd: hm it shouldn't if you are doing it through properties and selecting there06:16
dbernar1jeori: means you should insatll "build-essential06:16
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thegladiatorbut the sqaure doesnt diaapear06:16
thegladiatorblack sqaure06:16
dbernar1thegladiator: what option did you choose?06:16
navaronethegladiator...well I'm just ttrying to make the world a lil better a lil at a time...lol06:16
apokryphoscocox: reinstalling the new one; I doubt there are any debs for it yet.06:16
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thegladiatordbernar1, i checked out animations06:17
dbernar1and what is better?06:17
navaronethegladiator, did you try the Config Editor thingy?06:17
dbernar1I* mean, how is it better?06:17
thegladiatornavarone, exactly06:17
gnomefreakthegladiator,  you mean the 4 squares on bottom right in gnome?06:17
navaroneokie06:17
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jeoridbernar1, thanks06:17
cocoxapokryphos, so there is no any command for make and update like in fedora distro whit rpm??06:17
thegladiatornope gnomegreak , thats desktop area06:17
CanoeingkiddKindred: sorry you were right.....I was doing open with off the shortcut menu, not in the properties dialog, thanks06:17
apokryphoscocox: there is, but it'd need to be in a repository or you would have to have a .deb package06:18
KindredCanoeingkidd: yeah thought you might be :)06:18
navaronegnomefreak, I think he means the way the windows minimize and show a square as they do so06:18
blitzhey guys.. i need help.. my systems runs fine, but the ctrl+alt+f1-f6 don't work under xorg..06:18
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thegladiatori am trying to change the way a windows is minimized . the scheme that ubuntu uses it to show a black sqaure like think winding inside . just minimize any window and see06:18
davidlee1othi deleted my apt sources.list file... is there a way to rebuild it?06:18
benplautare the main repos down?06:18
davidlee1othno06:18
slshow do you se the default cahracter set in the terminals in ubuntu?06:18
gnomefreaknavarone, oh ok little black square didnt tell me much06:18
thegladiatoryes navarone i need to remove it completely . i guess that is a lil bit of a delay program in disguise06:19
slsdoeas any on know...06:19
davidlee1othlike... does anyone know how to add apt resources06:19
davidlee1othto rebuild the file?06:19
gnomefreakubotu tell davidlee1oth  about sources06:19
navaronethegladiator, when I minimizer Is ee the outline of squares as windows minimize but no square turning06:19
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thegladiatoroutline , a black sqaure06:20
aTypicaldavidlee1oth, I'll bet you can find a copy of one on the ubuntu forum and just use it for your file.06:20
cocoxapokryphos, but if i can install doing the "apt-get install" command the app is on a repository... so there is no way to do something like apt-get update????06:20
thegladiatorthere is this black sqaure (border ) that winds up into the gnome panel06:20
apokryphoscocox: if it was packaged you would be able to, but it's not.06:20
gnomefreakapt-get upgrade will upgrade any upgradable packages06:20
holycowguys, why does my ubuntu suddently think regular text files are scripts and is asking to display/run/run in terminal ... etc?  are the mime types hosed? is there any way to change this?06:21
blitzholycow: are they executeable?06:21
gnomefreakscript is just that text06:21
landotterholycow: right click and see if the properties are set as executable.06:21
holycowblitz, what do you mean executable? why would that make any difference? all files in home dir are executable06:22
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thegladiatorhow can i change that guys06:22
NeiI want to make a script to fix my keyboard06:22
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Malachipilgrim: Still there?06:22
blitzholycow: that woudl make no sense..06:22
Neiso I put one to write "setkeycodes ....." in init.d06:22
holycowthat has never made a difference on any version of linux anywhere06:22
pilgrimMalachi, yeah06:22
holycowwhat do you mean it makes no sense?06:22
holycowchmod 75506:22
pilgrimMalachi, bussy talking to ubotu06:22
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Neibut it doesn't work. could someone give me some clues how ot debug it?06:22
thegladiator!snack ubotu06:22
ubotuthegladiator: Are you smoking crack?06:22
Malachipilgrim: Never mind...06:23
thegladiator!ubotu snack06:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, thegladiator06:23
thegladiatoroops06:23
blitzholycow: why do u mark normal text files as executeabl?06:23
pilgrimMalachi, ok.06:23
Kindred!botsnack06:23
ubotuthanks kindred :)06:23
cocoxapokryphos, mm so when i install my apps doing "apt-get install" this doesnt download the package ? so what is what this command do ?06:23
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thegladiatorah :)06:23
pilgrimMalachi, if you need something let me know.06:23
erUSULNei, are you sure it gets exec an init?06:23
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holycowblitz, who marks it normal? whats wrong with you? its a regular text file created the regular way. nothing more nothing less06:23
erUSUL*on06:23
gnomefreakcocox, apt-get install downloads than installs the package you named06:23
apokryphoscocox: I don't think you're understanding :). apt-get install package1 checks the ubuntu repositories (and any other repositories you have), for the given package, and if it's there, it installs it06:23
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blitzholycow: if u chmod it to 755, it's executeable..06:24
apokryphoscocox: the new amsn package is not in the repositories, so you can't install it like that.06:24
thegladiatornavarone, Kindred and others06:24
Malachipilgrim: Just one thing. I changed the preferred application to firefox, but everytime I click an outside link it just opens to the home page. I think I need to add a parameter, but I don't know which one...06:24
blitzfrom that point on, it's beeing treated as a shell script06:24
thegladiatorany idea ?06:24
aTypicalblitz, are you concerned about rogue executables making it onto your system?06:24
Malachipilgrim: Could you see what your parameters are?06:24
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holycowallright, i am mistaken then, the files must have had perms changed at some point ... okay my appologies.  you guys are correct06:24
pilgrimMalachi, do firefox1.5 %s06:24
blitzaTypical, y should i be?06:24
pilgrimMalachi, or whatever that firefox 1.5 command is06:25
Malachipilgrim: Okay, thanks. I'll leave you alone.06:25
pilgrimMalachi, I'm still around if you need anything els.e06:25
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak ohh i c but it the amsn package were in the repositories y could do an update command ?06:25
blitzwere exactly besides the xorg.conf is the keyboard under xorg konfigured?06:25
blitzconfigured*06:25
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aTypicalblitz, sorry, I'm butting into a conversation I didn't see from the beginning.  You just piqued my curiosity with it06:25
thegladiatori think that minimizer thing is justa delayer06:25
gnomefreakcocox, if it was yes upgrade would upgrade the package06:25
blitzaTypical, k06:26
gnomefreakcocox, since its not you would more than likely have to download the tar.gz and compile it06:26
cocoxgnomefreak, and how should i type the command for upgrade ?? help me with the sintax plz06:26
riddleboxwhat app would I use to setup my wireless card?06:26
thegladiatorgnomefreak, do you have any idea on that thingy ?06:26
NeierUSUL, no I'm not >_> but in theory it should, I've made the links with update-rc.d06:26
gnomefreakthegladiator, nope i leave them just the way they are :)06:26
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apokryphoscocox: aha, you're in luck :)06:27
thegladiatorwhen i minimize a window , it shows a black sqaure curling up into the panel . i hate that06:27
apokryphoscocox: there's a .deb on their website06:27
NeierUSUL, I was thinking, maybe ubuntu overwrites my custom setkeycodes somehow06:27
gnomefreakoh he lucked out06:27
gnomefreaklol06:27
cocoxapokryphos, jajjaja really??06:27
thegladiatorgnomefreak, oh man that sucks actually . it delays too much06:27
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Neiwhat's a good way to make a console that shows system messages btw?06:27
gnomefreakcocox, download it and than run sudo dpkg -i <packagename>06:27
dbernar1thegladiator: you need to set the right option in gconf.06:27
cocoxapokryphos, now i should download the .deb and just everytime that is a new release just type the upgrade command ??06:27
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dbernar1something like minimal resources.06:27
apokryphoscocox: argh, oh no -- it's only a PowerPC .deb06:27
gnomefreakoops06:28
gnomefreaklol06:28
dbernar1thegladiator: reduced resources?06:28
apokryphosweird that they shouldn't have an ubuntu i386 one06:28
thegladiatordbernar1, ah . edit gnof file ?06:28
dbernar1take a look, thegladiator06:28
thegladiatorgconf06:28
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thegladiatorlet me open it06:28
nickrudreduced resources are under apps/metacity somewhere06:28
holycowblitz, landotter thx for your help06:28
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navaronethegladiator, try this same place in Config Editor only go further down to "panel" and disable animations there in "global" settings...you probably have to restart x as well06:28
dbernar1thegladiator: no, Apps>Sys Tools>Config Edit>apps>nautilus06:28
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jmw70I am trying to connect to my Brother MFC210C.  It is a windows printer and I can see it on the network, but I don't have the driver listed on Ubuntu.  Any ideas where I can find this driver?06:28
dbernar1thegladiator: no, it is acutally more likely in metacity.06:29
apokryphoscocox: download this: http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn-0.95.tar.gz06:29
thegladiatormetacity.06:29
thegladiatorunder apps ?06:29
nickrudyeah, apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources06:29
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak ohhh!! but if the last release of amsn could be in the repositories what should i type for make and update?06:29
dbernar1thegladiator: sure.06:29
gnomefreakcocox, i would stay with version you have if all they have is a tar.gz unless you know how to compile it :)06:29
dbernar1or desktop, find it.06:29
thegladiatormetacity is my guess as well06:29
dbernar1I do not have Ubuntu, I am at work.06:29
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apokryphoscocox: just a simple sudo apt-get install amsn06:30
gnomefreakcocox,  if its not in the repos you cant update it you have to install a new one and get rid of old one06:30
nickrudthat will get rid of the window diving into the panel, but it does some other stuff also that you may not like06:30
gnomefreakapokryphos, the one hes looking for isnt in repos he cant install it that way06:30
apokryphosI know, said it about 7 times :P06:30
gnomefreaklol06:30
thegladiatori am in metacities . just trying to figure out what cud cause this . if someone can help , please06:30
gnomefreak!tar.gz06:30
ubotuI guess tar.gz is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar zxvf filename.tar.gz to extract.06:30
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gnomefreakthats just the begining of a long day :)06:31
nickrudgeneral/reduced_resources <-- the--dud06:31
navaronethegladiator, it's just an animation...nothing to worry about06:31
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nickrudgeneral/reduced_resources <-- thegladiator :)06:31
cocoxgnomefreak, apokryphos lol thnx u guys i'll look for all the things that you told me thnxx :)06:31
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thegladiatorlet me check reduced ersources as nickrud poins out06:32
apokryphoscocox: if you download the above package you will (i) want to extract it, (ii) run sudo apt-get build-dep amsn, (iii) then configure and compile it06:32
gnomefreakapokryphos, pssst what did we tell him to look for? i cant remember lol06:32
thegladiatoranimation yes . but let me see if it has some effect on the speed06:32
apokryphosgnomefreak: the source06:32
thegladiatori really dont need that anime actually06:32
navaronenickrud> if he tried apps/panel/global" there are settings there that look promising06:32
thegladiatorits kind of not_so_cool06:32
gnomefreakoh ok good luck cocox06:32
confreyhi06:32
holycowso thats interesting, i guess one way to protect users on linux systems from farking up their accounts is to chmod their homedirs 640?06:32
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gnomefreaklol apokryphos06:32
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confreyis there a site for searching info about product e vendor numbers?06:33
thegladiatorso do i have to restart x?06:33
nickrudnavarone, if I remember rightly, that's for the animations of the panel itself. Window ani's are controlled by metacity06:33
gnomefreakapokryphos,  do gaim its easy06:33
navaroneokie06:33
jeoriwhat does "no curses header-files found" mean?06:33
thegladiatoror metcaity can be restarted on its own ?06:33
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sethkholycow, that isn't much protection, although it is protection from ignorance or accident06:33
navaronethegladiator, simple thing would be ctrl-alt-backspace06:33
apokryphosaha, that was quick+easy06:33
apokryphosgnomefreak: I'm not converting away from kopete of course ;-)06:33
gnomefreakoh god i hated kopete06:34
thegladiatoryep06:34
nickrudthegladiator, all changes to gconf are picked up automatically, no need to restart anything (or normally that's so)06:34
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apokryphoswow, it's just as ugly as ever06:34
apokryphosgnomefreak: why oh why06:34
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak mmm so i should download the tar.gz packeage and make it a .deb isnt it ?06:34
apokryphoscocox: nope, download it and then compile from source06:34
gnomefreakcocox, theres alot more involved than that06:34
holycowsethk, making sure the users cannot change permissions on file is one sure way of then not running unwarranted software ... as for not much protection i am not sure what that means.  you cannot protect anyone from deleting their files if that is what the point is?06:34
AlexRMHey06:34
gnomefreak!compile06:34
apokryphoscocox: /msg me if you want, and if you want the newest version that bad, I can walk you through it :)06:34
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware06:34
thegladiatorbrb guys06:34
jmw70I am looking for printer drivers, any ideas?06:34
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sethkholycow, they can chmod their files back again if they are of a mind to do so06:35
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AlexRMit's been a while since I've been on Linux, is Firefox 1.5 released for Ubuntu yet?06:35
gnomefreakapokryphos, cant you send him the .deb once you have it?06:35
navaronecocox...its a little more like the diference between asking for a cigarette and rolling your own...<s>06:35
confreyis there a site for searching info about product e vendor numbers?06:35
gnomefreakno AlexRM06:35
cocoxlol06:35
AlexRMaw :(06:35
holycowsethk, one can remove that ability from them you know06:35
gnomefreak!ff1.506:35
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:35
ULffuntuhi, anybody here made a dd of a fat16 fs disk?06:35
apokryphosgnomefreak: I don't have it06:35
albackerguys, after a kernel compilation.. should it run faster or slower ? the system.06:35
sethkholycow, the system becomes more or less unusable if you do.06:35
apokryphosgnomefreak: and checkinstall (if I used it anyhow) wouldn't make proper debs06:35
gnomefreakapokryphos,  oh ok i would have used checkinstall its nice :)06:36
holycowsethk, ah this affects them being able to use software?06:36
sethkholycow, right.  most things write state files in the home directory06:36
ordinary?06:36
sethkholycow, usually in a directory .something06:36
sethkholycow, do ls -A in your home and you'll see them06:36
pashawalbacker,   the average person cant tell the difference  CPU are simply too fast these days06:36
apokryphosgnomefreak: it doesn't work with all things, unfortunately, too.06:36
gnomefreakoh it doesnt?06:37
gnomefreak:(06:37
cocoxapokryphos, navarone, gnomefreak ok i'll download and compile the tar.gz is the same than installing from the .deb i mean the same results istn it ?06:37
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apokryphoscocox: not exactly the same, no -- but the application will work just fine, yes.06:37
gnomefreakcocox, not really06:37
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apokryphoscocox: why do you want the latest version?06:37
holycowsethk, just out of curiosity, why does a user need tghe ability to chmod?  i don't know of any piece of software (say for regular office workers ) that requires this?  i may be wrong but giving them write ability is good enough?06:37
gnomefreaktheres a reason why they call things bleeding edge :(06:38
holycowtime to experiment i think :)06:38
albackerpashaw, i compiled 2.6.14 [has 2.6.12-8 now] . i had a lot of errors during the booting plus the system was slower. i compiled with make bzimage modules... and also with make-kpkg * [make-kpkg gave me .debs aftter installing em i couldnt boot.. :S] 06:38
apokryphosholycow: you often need it to make things executable etc06:38
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak because maybe there are new things and some fixed bugs :S ?06:38
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apokryphoscocox: but why not use another messenger? aMsn is terrible :P06:38
apokryphostry Kopete06:38
navaronehmm...does rythmbox rescan library everytime it starts?06:38
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pashawalbacker,  did you use the base config from the 2.6.12 kernel  to start with or all from scratch?06:39
gnomefreakcocox,  i doubt its gonna make a difference but i would find out what was changed before you waste rest of day compiling the tar06:39
holycowapokryphos, files in /home/user need to be executable? *hmm* i'll haveto test this out, i didn't know that.  i thought read/write was enough06:39
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak why kind of messenger do you recommend me ?06:39
riddleboxI am trying to setup my wireless card, I have gotten it to work with mandriva + ndiswrapper, but I am new to ubuntu, does someone have a howto I could read?06:39
gnomefreaki use gaim2.0 and irc06:39
apokryphosholycow: no, I thought you were just asking of an instance for why a user would want to use chmod06:39
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apokryphoscocox: Kopete06:39
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albackerpashaw, i copied my current configuration, and saw every single thing i had to configure..06:39
apokryphosnew kopete has full webcam support too =)06:39
mwegnomefreak: it's still the beta, right?06:39
gnomefreakmwe yes06:39
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gnomefreakmwe,  it looks alot more like aim now :)06:40
pashawalbacker,   i only conpile kernels if its for a server (limit the extra crap) or if the new kernel fixes a problem the old kernel was giving me06:40
albackerpashaw, dunno. ive been compiling the last 3 days.. compiling deleting recompiling. i decided not to compile anymore. it looks like it doesnt work for me :(06:40
holycowapokryphos, no, as a result of mucking about it occured to me that chmoding user dir's to 644 would prevent them from accidentally running stuff, removing their ability to chmod would lock it down fairly well.  a regular user has no need for chmod in a sandboxed environment06:40
mwegnomefreak: yeah. I got it too :)06:40
gnomefreakeven dapper doesnt have it in repos06:40
pashawalbacker,   personally i think your wasting your time   unless you think the new kernel will fix something06:40
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confreyis there a site for searching info about product e vendor numbers?06:41
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holycowoh and look, in ubuntu a regular user has no access to chmod06:41
cocoxapokryphos, gnomefreak ok guys i'll read more and try kopete, thnx u for ur time :) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:41
navaroneprivet hajit06:41
thegladiatorreduced resources it it . but I advise not to change it since ni the reduced mode , it looks really awkward06:41
albackerpashaw, yeah, i wanted to activate video4linux in the new kernel06:41
mweholycow: of course a normal user has access to chmod. just not on others files06:41
holycowmwe, why?06:42
holycowwhen does a secretary need chmod?06:42
navaronetehgladiator how so?06:42
sethkholycow, every user can run chmod06:42
vladimirexcuse me! I today install Ubuntu.  How you listen .mp3. with what program06:42
mweholycow: if you make a script and need to make it executable for example06:42
dsl633hello everyone06:42
holycowmwe, that isn't a regular user06:42
gnomefreakubotu tell vladimir about mp306:42
holycowthat is a power user06:42
thegladiatorthe window minimizing works well . but when you drag a window , the window will be shown as a cluster of sqaures being dragged06:42
dsl633i am running06:43
holycowmy definition of regular user is secretary, we are talking two separate things06:43
mweholycow: or you want other people not to be able to read your files06:43
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joaquinzhi06:43
gnomefreak<<doesnt remember needing sudo to chmod06:43
dsl633i am running dsl of a cd right now because i want to check my system using fsck  but i'm not sure how06:43
holycowmwe, no, regular users have no business setting that up, sorry.  thats for power users.  regular users email/drop stuff onto file servers06:43
mwegnomefreak: you don't06:43
dsl633any help?06:43
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holycowmwe, i know what you are saying, we are simply talking about two different roles06:43
riddleboxnevermind i think I figured it all out06:44
gnomefreaksecretary in usa does most if not all things for his/her boss06:44
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joaquinzive some trouble with dapper drake flight 2... i've installed it and since then, the network card havent work anymore :(06:45
holycowi work with executive assitants to ceo's, not a single one of them has every needed to change permissions to a file.  infact none of them even know what file permissions are ... its hard to explain to them what file permissions are to begin with06:45
popeyis it possible to compile a vanilla kernel.org kernel on ubuntu without any patches from ubuntu or debian?06:45
mwepopey: yes06:45
gnomefreakjoaquinz,  you have to set it up in the networking area06:45
mwepopey: I did06:46
popeycool06:46
popeyany gotchas?06:46
joaquinzgnomefreak: it doesnt recognize my card or something like that06:46
thegladiatorsecretaries are mostly babes06:46
gnomefreakjoaquinz, dapper is not close to release06:46
dsl633anyone know how i do that?06:46
pashawalbacker,   what video device  video for linux is in the default kernel modules06:46
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joaquinzgnomefreak : and?06:46
thegladiatorgnomefreak, you didnt mean did that or did you ?06:46
mwepopey: lots. like forgetting to check the right drivers :)06:46
popeyheh06:46
gnomefreakjoaquinz, did your nic card work in breezy?06:46
popeywell, yeah that's the obvious one :)06:46
joaquinzgnomefreak: perfectly06:46
joaquinzgnomefreak: it is a nvidia onboard networkcard06:47
thegladiatoralbacker, what was that problem ? you couldnt compile your kernel ?06:47
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gnomefreakjoaquinz, go into your network settings and set it up06:47
navaroneholycow I understand what you are saying...regular users are not just people without root privs...they are usually people just trying to do their job...<s>06:47
mwepopey: then you need to compile any external modules like ati binary drivers yourself06:47
gnomefreakdidnt mean what thegladiator ?06:47
pashawthegladiator,   he compiled a new kernel  to add something that was already in the default kerne;06:47
popeyyeah, i have an nvidia laptop06:47
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albackerthegladiator, i can compile it, but it gets me errors during boot-time and also it runs slower ..06:47
thegladiatorabout secs , u wanted one06:47
holycownavarone, *nod* yup06:48
gnomefreakyes i do want one06:48
mwepopey: in that case s/ati/nvidia/ :)06:48
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popeyIKWYM06:48
albackerthegladiator, secs ?06:48
gnomefreaksecretary06:48
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thegladiatoralbacker, scretary , it was a follow up on something gn0me said06:49
kekkohelloooo!!!06:49
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fredforfaen!java06:49
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:49
albackerpashaw, i dont have it in my current kernel..06:49
albackerpashaw, talking about v4l..06:49
kekkohii06:49
navaronesalut kekko06:49
kekkosalu06:49
kekkot06:49
gnomefreakjoaquinz,  you have alot of work ahead of you hope your ready for it and i would check bugzilla to find out the bugs you will see and some of them tell you how to fix it06:49
kekkoare you french?06:50
navaroneno kekko...Canadaian06:50
kekkogood06:50
kekkopleased to meet u06:50
navaronenice to meet you too...how can we help?06:50
albackeraha ok06:50
kekkomh...06:50
pashawalbacker,  type  sudo locate v4l   youll see it listed under  2.6.1206:50
vladimirme too, but how can listen .mp306:51
thegladiator!restricted06:51
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:51
gnomefreakvladimir, did you read the post ubotu sent you?06:51
pashawalbacker,   the default breezy kernel config   shows all but 1 v4l device enabled06:51
kekkoi'm thinking06:51
thegladiatorvladimir, read what ubotu says06:51
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Notewhats the link to the firefox updating page06:51
gnomefreakthegladiator,  i sent him that a while ago lol06:51
Notewiki06:51
gnomefreak!ff1.506:51
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:51
kekkoi've some problem wt pppoeconf06:52
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mwekekko: yeah. what problems?06:52
thegladiator:d06:52
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kekkothe connection doesn't starts at the boot06:52
existanceWould anyone recommend a bittorrent client that can limit upload and such?06:52
kekkoi've ubuntu with kde 3.506:52
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thegladiatorvladimir, read those things and you cud listen to ur favourite track soon06:52
popeyexistance: i use btdownloadcurses06:52
kekkonot kubuntu06:52
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freddieneed help with videos on the internet they close my firefox06:53
existancepopey, thanks :)06:53
popeyso what's the general feel about upgrading to dapper now? :D06:53
holycowokay so appearent "folders" haveto be 755 otherwise nautilus cannot open them, that kinda makes sense.  can one traverse the file structure recursively and only set files withing all folders to 644 say?06:53
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mwekekko: you didn't install kubuntu-desktop to get it?06:53
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gnomefreakPopey unless you know what your doing dont06:53
kekkono06:53
kekkoapt-get install kdebase06:53
gnomefreaknormally if you have to ask you dont want to upgrade to it06:53
mwekekko: I see. just the base06:53
popeythe problem is i need a newer kernel for my DVB-T card06:53
kekkoyes ;)06:53
popeysure06:53
popeyI'm just after the general feel06:53
popey"It's broken, don't" or "yeah, it's okay at the moment"06:54
popeyI have it running in a virtual machine and it seems okay06:54
kekkobut...06:54
pashawpopey,    broekn06:54
existancepopey, any idea what their homepage is? It doesn't seem to show up on google :/06:54
popeybut of course that VM has significantly less software packages and different driverrs06:54
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freddieneed help with videos on the internet they close my firefox06:54
kekkopppoeconf didnt work well06:54
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revis there a way to force konqueror to use a WINS-server when doing smb:/ ?06:54
kekkobefore the kde installation end now06:54
gnomefreakrev, #kubuntu might know06:55
cyphasefreddie, try installing the Media Connectivity Plugin06:55
gnomefreakcyphase,  good luck :(06:55
cyphaseMedia Player Connectivity*06:55
revgnomefreak: no answer there :/06:55
freddiecyphase were can i find it06:55
cyphasegnomefreak, why?06:55
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MalachiWhat's a good FTP client?06:55
cyphasefreddie, do a search06:55
cyphaseshould be first06:55
freddiekk06:55
navaronemalachi gftp suits my needs06:55
pashawMalachi,    apt-cache search ftp     pick one  :P06:55
D1anyone know if theres any gnome 2.14 preview page like the last few releases?06:55
MalachiThanks, guys.06:55
cyphasegnomefreak, why good luck?06:55
mweholycow: the executable bit for directories says whether you someone access them06:56
D1I wanna see whats new.06:56
gnomefreakcyphase,  he has been sent every wiki on it and still spammed asking the same thing06:56
cyphaseah06:56
D1I tried 2.13 and it didn't seem so innovative. ;[06:56
cyphasei thought because the plugin itself06:56
mweholycow: if you own the directory you could access it even if it's 50006:56
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gnomefreakpopey, i recommend staying with breezy for now im sure most will agree with me there06:56
cyphasepopey, he's right :)06:57
ULffuntuanybody here know about byte offsets in the mount command?06:57
holycowmwe, ah! okay i'm having some weird behaviour here then, i chmod dirs to 644 (say just myfiles folder with my docs only), and nautilus all of a sudden cannot open them even though i own them06:57
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freddiecyphase i seached 4 it nothing came up06:57
GanjhiHey, I was wondering if anybody could help me with a sound issue I'm having with Enemy Territory. I'm trying to; echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss but I always get permission denied, chmod +x or su-c does not help.06:57
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navaronepopey...I am staying with breezy...rather tahn working another four months trying to get dapper to work before it's release...lol06:57
cyphasefreddie, what did you search for06:57
cyphaseexact phrase06:57
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gnomefreakcyphase, ;)06:57
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mweholycow: yeah. disabling the exe bit(1) is bad for dirs you wanna access06:58
freddiecyphase the Media Connectivity Plugin06:58
cyphase"the" doesn't do anything06:58
cyphasebut ok06:58
GanjhiWhen I use su -c it the terminal prompts me for my password, but it always says Authentication Failure, but I know I'm using the right password.06:58
mweholycow: and the read bit as well if you wanna see the files in there06:58
navaroneDoes Punkbuster work in linux with rtcw?06:58
cyphasefreddie, did you really search? and di you look at the results?06:58
ULffuntuanybody here a loopmount expert?06:58
cyphasedid*06:58
sethkGanjhi, if you don't use -c?06:58
sethkULffuntu, I don't know about the expert part, but I know how it works.  what's the problem?06:59
GanjhiIt says Unknown ID Sethk06:59
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cyphasefreddie?06:59
pashawGanjhi,   that would use roots password you dont have a root06:59
ULffuntusethk: I made some dd's of some zip disks like this...06:59
freddiecyphase on the internet or the synaptic packe manger07:00
pashawGanjhi,   use sudo07:00
sethkGanjhi, why are you using su -c instead of sudo?07:00
Ganjhihow?07:00
ULffuntudd if=/dev/sda of=zipdisk.img07:00
cyphasefreddie, the internet07:00
pashawGanjhi,    sudo command file07:00
ULffuntuand they wouldn't mount until i learned abou sda407:00
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NoteI cant install to /opt07:00
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Notehelp07:00
holycowmwe, that is a bit confusing ... so i chmod everything to 644.  nothing is executable.  i still own the files user.user.  if i own them i should be able to view them no (unless i do something stupid like chomod everything 000)?07:00
Ganjhiso instead of using su -c I just type sudo??07:00
sethkULffuntu, losetup /dev/loop0 zipdisk.img;  mount -t whatever /dev/loop0 /mountpoint07:00
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pashawGanjhi,   sudo   is used for admin tasks in ubuntu07:01
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cyphaseOfficial Ubuntu support channel | Documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com/ | Support options: http://ubuntu.com/support | Community news: http://fridge.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting | IRC Info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat | Dapper Drake is still unstable. DOn't use it!07:01
Ganjhiokay, thanks pashaw07:01
cyphaseoops07:01
cyphase:P07:01
sethkholycow, remember that x, on a directory, means search07:01
mweholycow: but you can't access the dir if the exe bit is unset for it07:01
gnomefreakoh its there?07:01
sethkGanjhi, not really for admin tasks, for doing anything that requires su privileges07:01
Ganjhigood to know07:01
sethkGanjhi, and not in any way specific to ubuntu; it's been in unix for 25 years07:01
cyphasegnomefreak, no07:01
gnomefreakoh07:01
cyphasei was going to tyr setting it07:02
gnomefreaki saw07:02
cyphaseand i forgot /topic07:02
cyphaselol07:02
navaronesethk macos too i think07:02
gnomefreak<<<doesnt know how to do anything07:02
freddiecyphase ok ill try it07:02
sethknavarone, in OSX, certainly, because it's BSD UNIX07:02
cyphasethere are actually several big channels that allow anyone to change the topic07:02
mweholycow: setting the files to 644 or 600 is fine, but the dir need 700 or 755 or something similar like 75007:02
navaronesethk yup07:02
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vilefridgeHello!  I just replaced my motherboard and now my Ubuntu 5.10 will not boot.  It says it cannot start XServer.  Is there some way to resolve this?  I was on here yesterday and someone suggested to remove and reinstall xserver-xorg, however my ethernet adapter doesn't work in recovery mode so I can't use apt-get to retrieve it again.  is there some way to point it to the installation disc instead?  Is this what I should be doing?07:03
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freddiecyphase didnt work07:03
mweholycow: and 700 will only work if you own the dir. genrally dirs are set to 75507:03
cyphasefreddie, did you look through the results?07:03
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cocoxwhat is the equivalen of the "service" command in fedora core ??????07:04
Notehelp07:04
pashawvilefridge,   type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:04
mwecocox: what does it do in fedora?07:04
freddiecyphase no were r they07:04
mwe!helpme07:04
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:04
vilefridgepashaw: dpkg-reconfigure wasn't recognized as a request.. I had tried that before removing it07:04
NoteI cant put files into /opt (required for ff instalation)07:04
cyphasefreddie, did you do the search?07:04
sethkNote, use sudo07:04
mweNote: yes, with sudo you can07:04
cocoxmwe, starts a service07:05
Notesethk: how would I do this07:05
pashawvilefridge,   use sudo infront of it07:05
cocoxmwe, manage a service.... stop, start, pause07:05
freddiecyphase yes and i installed it07:05
sethkNote, depends on what you are currently doing, that fails, when you are trying to put files into /opt07:05
spikehhow would I associate a program to open a specific format07:05
mwecocox: just do /etc/init.d/apache2 start to start apache 2 for example07:05
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sethkNote, normally, you do the same thing you are already doing, but prefix sudo to the command07:05
cyphasefreddie, then what are you asking?07:05
vilefridgepashaw: I had used sudo and tried all different variations like dpkg --reconfigure, dpkg reconfigure, etc..07:05
spikehi.e. I'd like to make Opera my default Internet browser07:05
Note?07:05
thegladiatorspikeh, please dont07:05
NoteI wam trying to drag it their07:06
cyphasefreddie, "no were r they". what's that mean?07:06
Notewhich I know wont work07:06
spikehthegladiator: ?07:06
Note(bad osx habits)07:06
freddiecyphase never mind07:06
mwecocox: with sudo probably though07:06
sethkNote, ok, then you have to start the program that you are draggin in with sudo07:06
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thegladiatorspikeh, firefox is better IMHO07:06
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freddiecyphase just the thing i installed didnt work07:06
cocoxmwe, thnx for the help :)07:06
spikehthegladiator: I switched to Opera on Windows and never looked back; and I'd like to do the same on Linux07:06
sethkNote, you are probably using a menu to start, so you'll have to check the properties of the menu to find the command you need to run07:06
mwecocox: you're welcome07:07
cyphasefreddie, you mean the Media Player Connectivity plugin?07:07
pashawvilefridge,  your using Ubuntu right?07:07
thegladiatorspikeh, i have used opera , ie , and few others....believe me firefox is really better07:07
freddiecyphase tes07:07
holycowbah!07:07
holycow:) damned power in this town07:07
holycowhehe07:07
holycowokay cool, you guys explained everything beatifully ... that brings me back to my earlier question ... how does one chmod all files in all subdirs 644 while leaving the dirs 755?07:07
cyphasefreddie, it works07:07
vilefridgepashaw: correct, 5.1007:07
cyphasebut you need to configure it07:07
gnomefreakspikeh, in the settings in opera you should beable to make it default browser as you do with FF or ie yucky07:07
thegladiatorspikeh, you get the same performance with FF if not better . i think opera doesnt handle popus as wellas FF07:07
freddiecyphase no it dont work07:07
sethkholycow, find . -type f -exec chmod 0644 '{}' \;07:07
thegladiatorgnomefreak, does that work in linux ? making it default ?07:08
cyphasefreddie, did you restart firefox?07:08
spikehthegladiator: I have chosen to use Opera yet why are you challenging that? the first rule of support is to fix the issue at hand not to suggest new programs07:08
gnomefreakthegladiator,  it should07:08
freddiecyphaseno dont nohow07:08
cyphasewhoa, whoa07:08
mwethegladiator: however java sometimes break FF07:08
vilefridgepashaw:  Since I removed xserver-xorg, I'll have to get it back on there... but my internet connection doesn't work in recovery mode at the command prompt.. Is there some way to point apt-get towards the installation disc?07:08
holycowsethk, ah! okay gotcha ... i understand what to google for now :)07:08
sethkholycow, but, _please_, don't use numbers.  do something like    chmod u+w   or g+rw   or whatever it is  you actually want07:08
cyphaselet's not get into a browser war07:08
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holycowsethk, *nod* right07:08
thegladiatorspikeh, it was a suggestion , there is alarger rule that says , take what you like .07:08
holycowthat makes more sense actually07:08
cyphasefreddie, press the X in the top right corner07:08
pashawvilefridge,   ok reboot pick a recovery kernel  when grub pops up,   login, then type this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <<the whole thing single spaces07:08
sethkcyphase, hey, I was enjoying the war   :)07:08
gnomefreakthegladiator, saying something is better can and will start a flamewar we really dont want that in here07:08
cyphasethen open firefox again07:08
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cyphasesethk, oh sorry07:08
cyphaseforget what i said07:08
sethkcyphase,   :)07:08
freddiecyphase i did that but it still dont work07:08
cyphasego on with the war07:08
gnomefreakcyphase, lol07:08
vilefridgepashaw: alright, i'll give that a shot, brb :)07:08
cyphase:D07:08
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pashawvilefridge,    what you removed it07:09
=== navarone uses Opera and FF 1.5 without problem
thegladiatorgnomefreak, yes ;d lets peace off07:09
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cyphasefreddie, it should be working. if it's not, then..07:09
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freddiecyphase never mind i think i got it07:10
thegladiatormwe, yeah java tends to break FF sometimes . actually mozilla internet app suite is very stable in that context07:10
cyphaseok07:10
gnomefreakcyphase,  he will be back :)07:10
cyphaselol07:11
cyphaseyou think he's doing it on purpose?07:11
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cyphasei mean..07:11
cyphaselol07:11
mwethegladiator: I use epiphany for java07:11
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gnomefreaki gave him every wiki that ubotu knows and he didnt read a one07:11
navaronegnomefreak, ...i think he went to sit under his bridge again maybe07:11
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gnomefreaknavarone,  maybe ;)07:12
cyphasestill07:12
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cyphaseit shows how far ubuntu still has to go07:12
cyphaselol07:12
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thegladiatormwe, cool. ephiphany has some issues with color ?  for eg. when u open gmail , there are no colors for the mail which makes it look a tad unproffesional . i like ephi for its simplicity though07:12
jumpkickanyone here tried installing webmin on breezy?07:12
DelvienCan anyone tell me which Dapper release is installable? flight 2 isnt07:12
cyphasejumpkick, yes07:12
cyphaseit's weird07:12
gnomefreaklol sometimes yeah but if you dont read you dont learn lol07:12
cyphasecan't access it except from the computer it's installed on07:13
thegladiatorDelvien, yes07:13
cyphasegnomefreak, i know07:13
Delvienthegladiator which one?07:13
thegladiatorflight 207:13
jumpkickcyphase: how'd you get past the "md5sum: miniserv.pem: No such file or directory" error?07:13
cyphasejumpkick, i don't know07:13
cyphasei just uninstalled it after a while07:13
holycowdudes, you guys are like the goddamned "A - Team" of linux :)07:13
Delvienthegladiator when i try to install it it says... Kernal panic can not mount :VFS: unkown block or something like that07:13
jumpkickcyphase: maybe you had that file from an older rev of the package...07:14
holycowthat has to be the fastest trouble shooting session i've ever had :)07:14
holycowthanks!!!!07:14
Delvienthegladiator this is right after i hit "install ubuntu"07:14
sproingiethegladiator: i'm guessing epiphany opens gmail in basic mode, right?07:14
pashawholycow,   can i be ACE07:14
thegladiatorsproingie, yes i thin so . can i change it >?07:14
gnomefreakDelvien, its still very buggy i dont suggest installing it if you get past that problem07:14
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cyphaseholycow, you had a power outage?07:14
holycowseth_k especially for that code snippet :)07:14
thegladiatorDelvien, i havent tried it actually . but check out distrowatch and it says flight 207:14
sproingiethegladiator: beats me, does epiphany support javascript sufficiently?07:14
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Delviengnomefreak i dont mind bugs , but have to install it first hehe :P07:15
holycowcyphase, yes, and it turns out my power backup here doesn't work :/07:15
gnomefreakflight2 is newest07:15
cyphasewhere are you?07:15
holycowpashaw, hehe :)07:15
gnomefreakDelvien,  the installation bugs are badf07:15
gnomefreakbad*07:15
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thegladiatorsproingie, mwe is the one who uses it . i use FF . but yes java didnt have any probs in ephi07:15
Delvienaye . but i want it :)07:15
jumpkickcyphase: you can allow other computers to access webmin by adding an IP to the "allow " line in miniserv.conf07:15
gnomefreakjust waring you once you get past install if you do its alot of extra work to do to get it to run07:15
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thegladiatorit wud take a new channel to discuss unstable releases sometimes07:16
thegladiator;p so much bugs07:16
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Delviengnomefreak something im willing to do :)07:16
cyphasejumpkick, it wasn't working07:16
gnomefreakdapper drake flight 2 is alpha. alpha= pre beta07:16
cyphasebut it's fine07:16
cyphasei don't really need it07:16
thegladiatormwe, have you opened gmail with ephi ?07:16
holycowpashaw, hehe :)07:16
mwethegladiator: I don't think so07:16
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jumpkickcyphase: I think the package is broken now... :(07:17
gnomefreakDelvien,  you want to get past install read bugzilla to see if your issue has been made or fixed07:17
thegladiatorsproingie, you were talkin of basic mode . how do i change it ?07:17
thegladiatormwe, could you please , in case you have a gmail account ?07:17
navarone<s> apt-get installed epiphany but got game instead or browser...oops07:17
sproingiethegladiator: get epiphany to spoof the user-agent and claim to be firefox07:17
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mwethegladiator: it doesn't work for you?07:17
sproingiethegladiator: you'll probably find it falls over real quick, but it's worth a shot07:17
thegladiatormwe color issues07:17
thegladiatorsproingie, how do i spoof  ?07:18
sproingiethegladiator: no idea, i don't use it07:18
gnomefreaki know in firefox you change a little in about:config07:18
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thegladiatorok07:18
mwethegladiator: what color issues? it seems ok at a first glanse here07:18
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thegladiatormwe, not at first  glance actually07:18
sproingiethegladiator: the full mode of gmail uses dhtml and xmlhttprequest, if epi doesn't support those, it won't work07:18
thegladiatormwe, the next stage once you log into mail07:19
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thegladiatorsproingie, i see . so its an issue thats is irrparable07:19
mwethegladiator: yeah that's what I mean it looks ok, my inbox, contacts and when I open a message07:19
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thegladiatorit has the color that you see in firefox ?07:20
mwethegladiator: I believe so. let me check again07:20
thegladiatormy gmail is like black and white . the blue color that it has in FF dissapears07:20
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thegladiatorgmail  generally has a blue shade07:21
thegladiatorbu in this case its just plain black and whiet07:21
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Delviengnomefreak i searched bugzilla, no one has the same problem as me07:21
mwethegladiator: it's looks identical if FF and epi here with a light blue background07:22
thegladiatormwe, gosh . why shud it be different here ?07:22
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gnomefreakDelvien,  you can report it than or try to fix it on your own the issue i had when installing it was bad iso07:22
mwethegladiator: I have no idea07:22
pashawDelgul,   part of alpha releases is finding solutions to your own problems to help fix it07:22
Delviengnomefreak im hopeing that is it. and not something wrong with me :P07:23
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X_MachineHi vribody07:23
thegladiatorwonder why07:23
mweopera tells me to install motif. would that be libmotif3?07:23
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stelmateHellow07:24
freemanenthen I am trying to connect to a msyql database with a php script i get this error07:24
freemanenFatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/adressLaggTill.php on line 207:24
X_Machineanyone has an idea on how to make windows games workng on ubuntu07:24
gnomefreakDelvien,  Delvien if you cant debug install you have a very long way to go if you look at bug#21487 it will tell you how to get what errors it gives and you can start debugging there07:24
freemanenwhy?07:24
X_Machine??07:24
X_Machineto play07:24
gnomefreakDelvien, my advice is to atleast wait till flight 3 in jan07:24
stelmatecedega (but it still kinda sux)07:24
X_Machinei don't like flight sims07:24
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thegladiator1.8.2 is the version mwe ?07:25
gnomefreakoh btw installing kubuntu-desk-top in ubuntu dapper will crash you menu in gnome :)07:25
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mweX_Machine: only a small percentage of windoze games will work in linux07:25
gnomefreaklocales is gonna be an issue also07:25
X_MachineI prefer Windows07:25
pashawfreemanen,  youll likely get more help in PHP or MySQL   irc channels or forums07:25
freemanenok07:25
MalachiHow do you add fonts in Ubuntu?07:25
ixionhi, its been a while since I've had to use linux/ubuntu could someone please remind me how to start apache2, I have installed it using APT07:25
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gnomefreakubotu tell Malachi  about fonts07:26
thegladiatorX_Machine, linux gaming is in its infance07:26
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thegladiatormwe which version of ephi btw ?07:26
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MalachiThanks, gnomefreak07:26
thegladiatorbrb07:26
gnomefreakyw Malachi07:26
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freddiecyphase i got the thing installed and it still cloeses my fire fox07:27
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gnomefreak:)07:27
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cyphasefreddie, then i don't know what's wrong07:28
Kindredixion: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start07:28
freddiecyphase u no im useing linux right07:28
cyphasefreddie, really? i thought you were on windows..07:28
stelmateanyone got xdvdshrink working? (or lxdvdrip for that matter) I keep getting that dam %d mplex error.07:28
ixionKindred, I tried that it just returns me back to the shell with no output?07:28
gnomefreakfreddie, i would hope your using ubuntu07:28
freddiecyphase nope07:28
cyphaseoh..07:28
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freddiecyphase ya im using ubuntu07:29
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cyphasei didn't know07:29
cyphasei thought it was windows07:29
TokenBadis there a way to fax over high speed internet or can that only be done via dialup..if can be done via highspeed internet..what software for ubuntu will do it?07:29
gnomefreakcyphase,  ill bbs im gonna play with bugs for a while :)07:29
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freddiecyphase can i uninstall it07:30
cyphasefreddie, why?07:30
pashawTokenBad,   those are called emails07:30
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freddiecyphase it caps poping up when i start up fire fox07:30
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cyphaseand when it pops up, what do you do?07:30
apostoliswhivh package libz?07:31
cyphaseclick Cancel?07:31
ManifoldWiw,07:31
ManifoldWow.07:31
TokenBadso no way to do an actual fax to a fax number...07:31
ManifoldI've just install Ubuntu.07:31
freddiecyphase i seach 4 movie players like it says07:31
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ManifoldThis is impressive.07:31
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cyphasefreddie, i don't know what's wrong with it07:31
cyphaseit should work07:31
pashawTokenBad,   i know of some windows programs    but they are mostly used for recieving faxes over the internet07:32
cyphaseif it isn't, then your computer has some strange problem07:32
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freddiecyphase the moive player with it dont work right07:32
pashawTokenBad,   to save on long distance07:32
cyphasefreddie, use totem if your not07:32
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freddiecyphase thats wut i mean i use that07:32
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pashawTokenBad,   google    internet fax send     maybe add linux to the search keys07:33
cyphasefreddie, do you want me to VNC into your computer and fix it?07:33
Mabus06    x    07:33
freddiecyphase wuts that mean07:33
TokenBadpashaw, ok thanks...but this is paperwork I have to fax to someone else.. and not sure you can do it over highspeed..think you have to do it with a dialup modem07:33
cyphasefreddie, it means i can see what's on your screen07:33
cyphaseso i can fix the problem07:33
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apostoliswhat is this? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:33
freddiecyphase kk07:33
cyphasefreddie, do you have broadband?07:34
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freddiecyphase yes07:34
cyphaseok07:34
pashawTokenBad,   well you would have to scan them into your puter first07:34
cyphasedo you know how to start the VNC server?07:34
Noteif i want a partition on my external drive to be readable and writable by ubuntu and os x what should the format be07:34
cyphasego to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop07:34
TokenBadright I have a scanner07:34
freddiecyphase no im a n00b to linux07:34
cyphasego to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop07:34
pashawTokenBad,    yeah google those phrases  might be a web service that will convert and fax them for you07:35
freddiecyphase ok now wut07:35
cyphasefreddie, do you have the window open?07:35
Notehow should I format my external drive if I want it to be readable by ubuntu07:35
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freddiecyphase wut window07:36
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cyphasethe one that opens when you click System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop07:36
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freddiecyphase ya07:36
teleyinexhi07:36
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pashawTokenBad,  i know recieving like that is common  but not about sending07:36
MeanEYEOK ... Kewl07:36
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teleyinexhow can I enable 3d in this card:  Intel Corp. 82852/855GM07:37
MeanEYEPPL...I need to download MP3 and other stuff for ubuntu 5.1007:37
cyphasefreddie, checkmark the top 2 boxes07:37
pashaw!tell MeanEYE about restrictedformats07:37
freddiecyphase k i did07:37
TokenBadpashaw, seems there are some places that do it..but all want a monthly fee..and I am sending a fax for the first time in years...so not something i do alot of..but thanks for your help..atleast now know can do it07:37
thiagomzHi...07:37
cyphasefreddie, now checkmark the bottombox, and put in a password07:37
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freddiecyphase ok07:38
pashawTokenBad,   yeah they would charge you to pull it off the web  convert it  to resend over local phone lines07:38
theconartisthow do i unmount when something is mounted multiple times07:38
thiagomzI need install oracle 9.2 client in ubuntu 5.10... any help-me ?07:38
aTypicalteleyinex, I'd like to know that too.  I thought it was enabled by default, but maybe it's not.07:38
teleyinexok07:38
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theconartistumount is giving me an error: it seems /media/cdrom0 is mounted multiple times07:38
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teleyinexaTypical, how can I know if I have 3d acceleration?07:39
theconartistdoes anyone know how to do this?07:39
cyphasefreddie, what's the password?07:39
freddiecyphase its freddie07:39
cyphaseok07:39
pashawtheconartist,   type   df -h    cdrom0   isnt listed twice07:39
stelmatetry something like a openGL screensaver07:39
cyphasefreddie, now, i need you to run a command in the terminal07:39
theconartistpashaw, it is07:40
aTypicalteleyinex, I think you can check glxinfo.  If it's enabled you'll see a line containing dri.07:40
freddiecyphase ok wuts the command07:40
teleyinexanother question is how can i make that the touchpad works as in windows07:40
teleyinexok07:40
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pashawtheconartist,   did you add a second line in fstab   using cdrom007:40
aTypicalMaybe it's Direct Rendering = Yes?07:40
cyphasefreddie, 1 sec07:40
freddiekk07:40
theconartistpashaw, not that i know of07:41
pashawtheconartist,   paste your df-h    and  cat /etc/fstab   to pastebin  use the same pastebin id like to see this07:41
pashaw!pastebin07:41
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:41
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thegladiatoru heard it right ubotu07:42
thegladiator!botsnack07:42
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ubotuthanks thegladiator :)07:42
pashawthegladiator,   ubunto knows your secrets!07:42
pashawerr  typo  :(07:42
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cyphasefreddie, i'll pm it to you07:43
Java_the_HuttHello, I am trying to insall gnokii, but it says "nokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" I have libgli2.0 , what should i do ?07:43
Java_the_Huttinstall07:43
Seveaspilgrim, please don't add crap to the bot07:43
theconartistpashaw, http://pastebin.com/48551107:44
Seveasoh, and spam too, that qualifies for..07:44
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thegladiatorwhen i do a upadte on open office , do  actually replace the old files ? or is it like a an addition to open office ?07:44
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bshumatetheconartist: try : sudo umount /tmp/disk2.iso07:46
darkheartHello, I'm trying to enable 3D acceleration on my ATI card. I have the fglrx driver install, but when I check it with fglrxinfo, it still displays the MESA driver. The logs show that the DRI couldn't be loaded. Any ideas?07:46
pashawtheconartist,  why is it using disk1.iso  off the cdrom   what are you doing?07:47
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pashawtheconartist,   and disk2.iso off  cdrom07:47
guerbyhi, is there a way to get a list of package names in a single column? dpkg -l has too much stuff07:47
dbernar1Seveas: that qualifies for... ... ...07:48
dbernar1Seveas: just try to get them to agree first, and if they get annoying, then ban them...07:48
cyphasefreddie, i'm PMing you07:48
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pashawguerby,   use dpkg -l | more07:48
cvt|nixmasdoes anyone have that firefox link again?07:48
Seveasdbernar1, bot abuse (in this case using it for spam) qualifies for an immediate ban07:48
theconartistsorry bout that07:48
theconartistaccidentally closed07:48
theconartistpashaw, im installing something under wine that required multiple cd's07:49
guerbypashaw, this is not for viewing, but for doing a diff of installed packages names between two machines07:49
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guerbypashaw, in the RPM world it's rpm -qa > file07:49
pashawguerby,   ohh 1 sec07:49
theconartistpashaw, and it wont let me unmount, to mount the new one, so i am masking it with the next disk07:49
cyphasefreddie..07:50
theconartistbut it wont let me unmask it for some reason07:50
kbrooksSeveas, what is "spam"? he used the bot correctly07:50
pashawguerby,   dpkg --get-selection \* > file.list07:50
freddie cyphase wut07:50
cyphasei'm PMing you07:50
cyphaseanswer :)07:50
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freddiecyphase i no07:50
bshumatetheconartist: try : sudo umount /tmp/disk2.iso07:50
freddiei sent u some thing07:50
freddiecyphaseu didnt get it07:51
pashawguerby,    then you copy it over to the system   and dpkg --set-selections < file.list07:51
cyphasei don't see it07:51
theconartistbshumate, i did, but it failed of course07:51
cyphaseanyway, here..07:51
theconartistthatis backwards07:51
cyphasei'll pm the command07:51
guerbypashaw,   dpkg --get-selectionS thanks!07:51
cyphasegot it?07:51
freddiecyphase ill try agn07:51
cyphasedid you get the command?07:51
freddieya07:51
cyphaseok07:51
cyphaserun it07:51
freddiekk07:51
theconartistbshumate, nevermind you win07:52
kbrooksSeveas, there?07:52
theconartisti lose07:52
theconartisti typed in the wrong path07:52
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freddieo ok07:52
pashawtheconartist,    thx for that  never seen that before07:52
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Seveaskbrooks, spamming his own webcrap (already deleted)07:52
dirceuwdsa07:52
bshumatetheconartist: you can umount with either the /dev entry or the mountpoint...usually... ;-)07:52
theconartistbshumate, thank you :)07:52
dirceuhi!07:53
dirceuplease jumper these room???07:53
yatesyu what?07:53
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dirceui need woman now!07:54
kbrooksSeveas, ah, i see07:54
dirceuyou see?07:54
freddiecyphase ok i ran it07:54
pashawdirceu,    wrong channel  please move along07:54
cyphasefreddie, did you run the command?07:54
cyphaseok07:54
cyphasedid you enter the password?07:54
dirceuwhat?07:54
dirceupashaw??? how are you???07:54
pashawdirceu,   Ubuntu support channel   not a play channel07:55
freddiecyphase it want let me07:55
dirceuwhat nick it???07:55
kbrooksdirceu, this isnt a chatroom07:55
cyphasefreddie, what do you mean?07:55
cyphaseit's not showing?07:55
dirceuyes!07:55
dirceuand you07:55
kbrooksdirceu, joiin #ubuntu-offtopic07:55
dirceuand you??07:55
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dirceufuck you kbrooks!07:55
dirceuyour mother is a cow!!!07:55
kbrooksdirceu, who, me?07:55
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Kindred:|07:56
dirceuyes07:56
=== BxL moo
dirceusucker my dic!!07:56
kbrooksdirceu, my mother is NOT a cow07:56
cyphasethat's normalhmm07:56
cyphaseoops07:56
cyphase2 message in one :P07:56
dirceuyes , I know!07:56
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MickMcMackO_o;07:56
dirceuyou are the son cow!!07:56
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kbrooksdirceu, YOU cant curse at me07:56
cyphasechannel*07:56
dirceuSNIF!!07:56
cyphasefreddie..07:56
freddiecyphase it sais bash: freddie: command not found07:56
freddiefreddie@68-187-221-198:~$07:56
dirceuyou are man or woman?] 07:57
cyphasefreddie, i see07:57
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kbrooksdirceu, dont make such derogatory comments at me07:57
KindredI am son cow07:57
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kbrooksdirceu, i'm not telling you07:57
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pashawKindred,   thats me not you07:57
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cyphasefreddie, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install ssh" without the quotes07:57
dbernar1Seveas: is there guidelines for ops?07:57
dbernar1are there, I guess.07:57
pashawops are sleeping i think07:58
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dirceuyou are man or womam???07:58
cyphasefreddie, i mean, run Synaptic07:58
kbrooksSeveas, dirceu cursed at me and called me a cow and told me to suck my ****07:58
freddieo ok07:58
kbrooksSeveas, kick him!07:58
cyphasefreddie, and install ssh07:58
dbernar1Seveas: here is dirceu for you to ban:)07:58
pashawkbrooks,   the cow part is true tho07:58
dirceuwhat???07:58
kbrookspashaw, i dont care07:58
dirceuwy??07:58
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cyphasepeople, people..07:58
dirceuI need sex session!!!07:59
kbrookspashaw, its offensive and insulting07:59
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kbrooksdirceu, NO sex here!07:59
dirceuNo???07:59
cyphaseyea, that's what he said07:59
kbrooksdirceu, #ubuntu isnt the room for you07:59
cyphaselol07:59
dirceuyou and me , no sex??07:59
globe... wasnt expecting that in entering this channel ;-)07:59
shimmmylol08:00
BxLasking for sex in a linux channel is kinda like going to a A.A. meeting and asking for beer, it makes no sense.08:00
shimmmyme either08:00
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shimmmylol hah agreed08:00
globelol08:00
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cyphaseglobe, excuse the mess :P08:00
pashawglobe,   ops are afk   troll  living longer than expected08:00
dirceuoh let go !!!08:00
freddiecyphase i dont see it in the synapic08:00
kbrooks!ops08:00
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth08:00
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cyphasefreddie, it's there08:00
cyphasessh08:00
globeI see08:00
dirceuOk friends??08:00
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dirceuyoue my friend???08:01
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cyphaseaha08:01
cyphasehere goes08:01
Amaranthkbrooks: Yes?08:01
BxLwoo.08:01
dirceuchanel friend here???08:01
cyphasebye dirceu08:01
kbrooksAmaranth,08:01
kbrooksdirceu cursed at me and called me a cow and told me to suck my ****08:01
freddiecyphase still cant find it08:01
globepashaw: do you sleep?!?!08:01
cyphasehis*08:01
pashawglobe,   yeah but i wake up  too  :P08:01
Amaranthbrb :P08:01
globeIC08:01
kbrooksglobe, you see?08:02
kbrookslol08:02
dirceuvo tudo tomar no cu08:02
Amaranthkbrooks: He doesn't seem to be now.08:02
cyphasefreddie, try openssh-client08:02
kbrooksAmaranth, he was08:02
dirceuvo se foder suas bichas !!!08:02
Amarantherr, or maybe he is...08:02
bshumatedirceu: menino pequeno mau! saa deste lugar!08:02
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dirceu$&#%*!*@@08:02
cyphaseAmaranth, he was/is08:02
cyphaselol08:02
Strikeahh hey Markbb-08:02
globe-08:03
freddiecyphase all of it08:03
kbrooksAmaranth, act!08:03
Strike;-p08:03
dirceubshumate  homem ou mui???08:03
kbrooksSeveas, ACT!08:03
cyphasefreddie, what do you mean?08:03
kbrooksand ,...........08:03
Amaranthdirceu: English only please.08:03
Amaranthbshumate: What is he saying?08:03
kbrooksNOW!08:03
freddiecyphasenever mind08:03
cyphasefreddie, did you find it?08:03
bshumatedirceu: stop the foul language....in both languages!08:03
freddiecyphase nope08:03
cyphasekbrooks, cool it08:03
pashawAmaranth,    swearing asking for sex   troll stuff generally08:03
cyphasejust calm down08:03
Markbb-lol Strike :)08:03
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Amaranthkbrooks: I'd rather not have to kick him.08:03
dirceufuck you, i don t speak english now!!!08:03
Amaranthdirceu: Last warning, #ubuntu is English only.08:03
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sam_how to increase screen resolution08:03
Amaranthdirceu: What language do you speak?08:04
kbrookscyphase, i never will, until dirceu is kicked08:04
bshumateAmaranth: dirceu is swearing at me/us...08:04
thegladiatorsam_ : gnome-display-poperties08:04
thegladiatorproperties*08:04
Smoked1dirceu: your gay man08:04
thegladiatorif you are on gnome08:04
dirceuportuguese!08:04
bshumateAmaranth: he's from Brasil, Portuguese08:04
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cyphaseDirceu Lopes, is it?08:04
dirceuyes!08:04
cyphasehmm08:04
Amaranthlooks like either portuguese or spanish08:04
AmaranthThere are channels for those languages.08:04
dirceui dont speak english..08:04
dirceumore or less08:04
kbrooksAmaranth, umm, but he is swearing08:05
cyphasefrom brazil, so probably pourtegese08:05
pashawAmaranth,     quote "dirceu I need sex session!!!"08:05
kbrooksand saying "fuck"08:05
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cyphaseportuguese*08:05
freddiecyphase wut do i do i cant findd it08:05
Amaranthkbrooks: Maybe he is just mad because no one can help him. :P08:05
cyphasefreddie, your looking in synaptic, right?08:05
cyphase:)08:05
freddiecyphase ta08:05
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globesam_ : what is your problem?08:05
cyphasefreddie, it's in there08:05
cyphasejust look08:05
EleafHow can I export mp3 using Audacity?08:05
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EleafIt says I have to find libmp3lame.so my self08:06
cyphasefreddie, click on a package and type ssh08:06
EleafI can't find this anywhere on my computer, apt, or using google08:06
freddieok i did that08:06
sam_my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?08:06
sam_my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?08:06
cyphasefreddie, and you can't find it?08:06
Amaranthdirceu: If you need help with ubuntu try #ubuntu-br08:06
Amaranthdirceu: If you just want to swear and talk dirty please go away.08:06
freddiecyphase nope08:06
cyphasefreddie, in the side pane, which row is highlighted08:06
globeEleaf : google lame mp3 encoder...they have a website to dl from08:06
thegladiatorAmaranth, he is gone08:06
sam_my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?08:06
Amaranthwow i'm lagging08:06
bshumateEleaf: sudo apt-get install liblame008:07
Eleafglobe, I can encode mp3 with other programs...08:07
sam_my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?08:07
globesam_ : does your computer support > 1024?08:07
Amaranth!fixres08:07
ubotusomebody said fixres was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:07
Eleafbshumate, ok, but audacity still says I have to locate the file by hand.  Even if it is installed08:07
freddiecyphase none08:07
sam_globe: how to know that08:07
cyphasefreddie, in the side pane, which row is highlighted08:07
globeEleaf: some programs come with a built in mp3 encoder....08:07
cyphaseoh08:07
Amaranthreally bad...08:07
cyphaseoops08:07
cyphaselol08:07
freddiecyphase none of them08:07
thegladiatorhow many here use enlightenment ?08:07
Eleafglobe, audacity says it uses the external libmp3lame.so to encode mp3.  And I have to find it my self.08:07
cyphasefreddie, yea, i missed it. highlight "All"08:08
freddiecyphase wait ssh is hightlighted08:08
globesam_ : you should be able to find out by looking in your monitor specs08:08
cyphasefreddie, ok08:08
pashawsam_,     read this but make sure you backup your xorg.conf first   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/638608:08
Eleafbshumate, liblame0 is installed08:08
thegladiatorcan you guys temme ur dektop please ?08:08
cyphasefreddie, highlight "All"08:08
bshumateEleaf: you just point Audacity to the location of liblame, which is /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.008:08
Eleafbshumate, it still says I have to manually find libmp3lame my self08:08
freddiecyphase ok08:08
EleafWell how am I supposed to find that bshumate ? = P08:08
Amaranth!ping08:08
dbernar1kbrooks: what is the "NOW!" supposed to mean?08:08
ubotupong08:08
globeEleaf: do you have libmp3lame.so in there?08:09
Amaranthwhoa, like 5 second lag here08:09
quackerthegladiator, I could always use some *more* enlightenment -- heh08:09
cyphasefreddie, when All is highlighted, click on  package in the main pane, and type ssh08:09
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BxL!ping08:09
Eleafglobe, no08:09
ubotupong08:09
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BxL2sec08:09
cyphasewho wants to play08:09
globeEleaf: then you will probably need to download it...08:09
cyphase!ping08:09
bshumateEleaf: Typically with the Audacity file browser.  The first time you attempt to export MP3, Audacity should pop a file browser which you use to locate liblame so Audacity knows where to find it in the future...08:09
Eleafglobe, I searched the internet08:09
cyphaseoops08:09
cyphase:)08:09
Eleafbshumate, yes, that popped up.08:10
nadav_hey.. i have a problem. ubuntu installed a new kernel for me and while doing it it replaced my old grub configuration.. now i can't boot into windows08:10
freddieok08:10
Eleafbshumate, but how am I supposed to know where that file is?08:10
nadav_how do i fix that? :)08:10
Eleafbshumate, It's not in /usr/lib/08:10
sam_globe: I have a 18 inch flat screen and all the screen is not used08:10
freddiecyphase ok08:10
cyphasefreddie, is it installing?08:10
DRAGON_Ultrayou don't need windows anyway08:10
cyphasei mean, did you find it?08:10
nadav_figured someone would say that08:10
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DRAGON_Ultra:)08:10
nadav_but i don't have visual c++ on linux... :)08:10
Eleafbshumate, I'm guessing libmp3lame.so doesn't exist.08:10
globesam_ : I see...you will need to re-run you x config script08:10
thegladiatorvisual c++ on linux . omigosh08:11
globeEleaf: try googleing for "lame mp3"08:11
bshumateEleaf: then you do not have it installed, or installed properly08:11
Seveasthegladiator, gvim ;)08:11
sam_globe: re-run x config means change settings ?08:11
nadav_anyway... can anyone please explain to me how to configure grub for windows xp?08:11
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pashawsam_,   i already gave you a guide08:11
thegladiatorgvim ?08:11
Eleafglobe, it doesn't exist.  Sure there are mp3 encoder libraries.  I have those.  But there is no libmp3lame.so that audacity needs08:12
thegladiatorah k ;d08:12
Eleafbshumate, I don't think there is any libmp3lame.so in the world!08:12
cyphasefreddie, did you find it?08:12
freddiecyphase i cant it says i need the dick08:12
cyphase...08:12
cyphasedisk*08:12
globesam_ from a term window (Alt-F1) type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:12
Seveas!find libmp3lame08:12
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libmp3lame' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/{libmp3lame.so.0|libmp3lame.so.0.0.0}) in multiverse/libs/liblame0 ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp3lame.a|libmp3lame.la|libmp3lame.so}) in multiverse/libdevel/liblame-dev.08:13
globesam_ that will run you through the configuration script.08:13
cyphasefreddie, you'll have to change your repositories08:13
cyphase!repo08:13
ubotucyphase: Are you smoking crack?08:13
cyphase!repos08:13
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:13
bshumateEleaf: well, I have the Multiverse package source enabled...and I was able to simply use the command : sudo apt-get install liblame0, and lo and behold, I have a /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 library!08:13
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AmaranthAnyway, call if you need help, I'll be upgrading wordpress08:13
cyphase!easysource08:13
uboturumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:13
thegladiatorthe upadater seems to freeze during applying chanhes08:13
thegladiatorwhat can i do ?08:14
Eleafbshumate, well I tried liblamemp3 like it said.  it didn't say liblame008:14
Eleaflol08:14
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MirithHmm...  question... what's the easiest CD burning software to use in linux?  I need to make an ISO then burn it08:14
ManifoldUnbuntu is reall impressing me.08:14
Manifoldreally*08:14
ManifoldI just installed it.08:14
ManifoldSo slick.08:14
thegladiatork3b08:14
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Eleafbshumate, It says I already have liblame0 installed08:14
sethkthegladiator, you mean synaptic?08:14
ManifoldOr maybe that's just Gnome..08:14
freddiecyphase so wut do i do08:14
thegladiatorMirith, k3b08:14
Mirithty08:14
SeveasEleaf, try liblame-dev08:14
thegladiatorno synaptic08:14
Eleafbshumate, I don't have one file in my /usr/lib folder.  It is only folders.08:14
ossieguys i have setup a samba share but it prompts me for a password08:15
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sethkossie, type in the password08:15
AmaranthEleaf: What are you trying to do?08:15
EleafI need to save this as an mp3 file08:15
Eleafthat's all I want to do.08:15
thegladiatorSoftwwares Update thats the heading . It was flashin in the gnmoe panel and i ran it08:15
bshumateEleaf: liblame0 is the *Ubuntu package* which *provides* libmp3lame, which is what Audacity needs to export MP3s...08:15
ossiehehehe, i know i worded that in a stupid way, the password dont accept08:15
Eleafbshumate, then where is the file?08:15
Eleafbshumate, where is libmp3lame?08:15
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pashawossie,   you need to also  login to it using your   ubuntu username08:16
freddiecyphase r u still there08:16
bshumateEleaf: it's sitting in a repository....waiting for *you to install it* ! ;-)08:16
AmaranthEleaf: Are you trying to rip a CD to mp3 using sound-juicer?08:16
pashawossie,   or a create a new user  with same name as your other puters account08:16
Eleafbshumate, It is installed!08:16
cyphasefreddie, go to the link below08:16
ossiei have tried that pashaw, im trying to access it via a xp laptop08:16
cyphase!easysource08:16
ubotuhmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:16
EleafAmaranth, I'm trying to save this file I edited in Audacity as a mp3.08:16
bshumateEleaf: afraid not...08:16
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Amaranthah08:16
Eleafbshumate, apt-get install liblame0.  liblame0 is already the newest version"08:17
MirithWrong button!08:17
globehey why does "sudo gdm stop" return "gdm already running...Aborting!"?08:17
AmaranthI didn't know audacity could save to mp308:17
pashawossie, use run   type \\ipaddress  enter08:17
freddiecyphase ok08:17
EleafAmaranth, yes, select it in the preferences08:17
MirithUmm how about for gnome, what's the easiest to use?08:17
freddiecyphase i did now wut08:17
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ossieok will have a go now pashaw08:17
Eleafbshumate, It's installed but there is not libmp3lame.008:17
ltibor65Hi boys!08:18
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Eleafbshumate, actually, maybe it is in there, but audacity wont open it08:18
MirithHello ltibor08:18
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dbernar1Seveas: Are there written guidelines for ops?08:18
EleafI can see it in /usr/lib when opening it with a terminal bshumate but audacity shows no file.08:18
cyphasefreddie, follow the instructions08:18
ltibor65There are an ubuntu package for audacity?08:18
freddiemkay08:18
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dbernar1ubotu: tell ltibor65 about ask the bot08:19
Amaranthdbernar1: Why do you ask?08:19
Eleafbshumate, Ok it worked...  I guess I needed the dev file.. o.o08:19
zadkielHello08:19
aTypicalAre there any "test" updates for breezy?08:19
dbernar1Amaranth: why does one ask? to get the information. He was talking about how something entails a ban, so I am curious whether there are writtent instructions specifically for that.08:19
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freddiecyphase installal all of it08:19
globehey why does "sudo gdm stop" return "gdm already running...Aborting!"?08:19
globeI am trying to kill it!?!08:20
Eleafbshumate, It quit while encoding..... o.o08:20
zadkielglobe: try sudo /etc/initr.d/gdm stop08:20
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kakeihi i installed kwin-baghira how can i activate it? (via aptitude install kwin-baghira)08:20
bshumateEleaf: bummer!08:20
cyphasefreddie, no offense, but you really have to read a bit by yourself08:20
ossieshould i create a group and give the group acccess to my samba share then sign in to the share with the group i made08:20
freddiecyphase mkay08:20
zadkielanybody knows if there are any graphical tools for enabling or disabling services from the boot up ?08:20
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emmanuelrsaludos08:21
globezadkiel: initr.d?08:21
Seveaszadkiel, system -> admin -> services08:21
freddiecyphase i dont understand it08:21
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ubuntunehi08:21
zadkieloh, i thought you meant on the shell08:21
Eleafbshumate, quits every time... hellpp08:21
freddiecyphase sorry08:21
Mirithhepl!08:22
SeveasMirith, ?08:22
pashawossie,    no use user accounts for login  but you can use groups to allow   more users access08:22
Seveasdbernar1, there are no such guidelines yet08:22
Eleafbshumate, It quits because of "Segmentation fault"08:22
Smoked1Is it ok to just use the APY package manager?08:23
ossiepashaw, i cant login with my credentials, i have given everyone access to the folder,. but it keeps prompting for user/pass08:23
pashawossie,    still wont let you in?     pastebin  your  /etc/samba/smb.conf  ill help you08:23
Smoked1APT08:23
Eleafbshumate, everything segmentation faults...  Firefox quits every few minutes because of it.  why?08:23
ossieok cheers08:23
SeveasSmoked1, sure08:23
MirithWhat happens if you want to run a kde program in gnome?08:23
zadkielSeveas, sorry, where do i find the "system"? i know it's a menu, but i don't see it...08:23
sethkMirith, you start it, and it runs08:24
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bshumateEleaf: you got some kind of major malfunction!  bad memory, or something if everything is segfaulting!08:24
Eleafbshumate, what is a good linux sound encoder then?  audacity quits every time I encode mp308:24
Mirithok08:24
Mirithty08:24
Smoked1Seveas: Thanks I prefer the command line08:24
Seveaszadkiel, are you using KDE/Kubuntu perhaps?08:24
Eleafbshumate, Yea I get at least 40 segmentation faults a day... lol08:24
Mirithits just a different library set?08:24
zadkielGNOME/ubuntu08:24
Seveaszadkiel, then it should be at the top left08:24
globezadkiel: did you mean "initr.d"? or "init.d"?08:24
Seveasnext to applications and places08:24
digitalericwhat's the ununtu release that will come after breezy?08:24
bshumateEleaf: audacity works great for me.  sounds like you have some hardware issues with your computer!08:25
quackerbshumate, either that or M$ Windows -- heh08:25
Seveasdigitaleric, dapper08:25
digitalericSeveas: thanks08:25
zadkielglobe, init.d08:25
Smoked1I installed ubuntu on my laptop last night but the integrated sdcard reader is not working.08:25
ltibor65Seveas, where can I find an audacity ubuntu package?08:25
Seveas!info audacity08:25
BxLwhat's the package name of the "battery metter" in ubuntu?08:25
ubotuaudacity: (A fast, cross-platform audio editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-1build2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1605 kB, Installed size: 4708 kB08:25
BxLfor laptop08:25
Seveasltibor65, in universe :)08:26
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D1Smoked1: there is no driver for it in linux08:26
SeveasBxL, there is one in gnome-applets, there's one in gdesklets, there are several more...08:26
zadkielSeveas, should i log in as root or something? because it's not there... I just have "Applications" and "Computer"08:26
Eleafbshumate, ok what is a good sound encoder?08:26
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globezadkiel: thanks, that worked.  whats the difference between being in /ect/init.d and saying "sudo gdm stop" and saying "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ?08:26
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yaaarword08:26
Smoked1Ahh man08:26
Seveaszadkiel, ah, then you're on hoary08:26
ossiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6420 pashaw08:26
zoexiihello, does anyone know if I can mount a mac '.dmg' file in linux?08:26
Seveashoary has no such application yet08:26
pashawossie,   1 min08:26
ossiecheers08:27
Seveaszoexii, maybe when you use mac-on-linux...08:27
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ubuntunecan anyone tell me which deb packages i need to make xine play a rented dvd?08:27
sethkzoexii, I don't know of a way08:27
yaaarcan anybody tell me the important differences between the gstreamer totem backend and totem-xine?08:27
ubuntuneplease08:27
zoexiiSeveas, I run x86, I can't do mac-on-linux,08:27
ManifoldGuys.. clem@clemmain:~$ cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup108:27
Manifoldcp: cannot create regular file `/etc/fstab_backup1': Permission denied08:27
yaaardoes it really matter which i use?08:27
D1libcss I belive?08:27
Seveasubuntune, libdvdcss208:27
ManifoldHow do I get access?08:27
D1there you go.08:27
digitalericzoexii: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm08:27
sethkubuntu133, lie to it, tell it you bought it instead of renting08:27
SeveasManifold, sudo08:27
erUSULubotu, tell ubuntune about dvd08:27
ltibor65Seveas, tell me a website for audacity, my synaptic don't works now.08:27
zadkielglobe, i'm not entirely sure. Something about the directory where the binary is run...08:27
Seveasltibor65, packages.ubuntu.com, search for audacity08:27
ubuntunethanks erusul08:28
globezadkiel: ok....thanx anyway08:28
zadkielglobe, no problem08:28
ManifoldYou mean sudo gedit /etc/fstab?08:28
bshumateEleaf: you can try Grip...but it uses lame as well, and will likely crash just as much as audacity given your obvious system instability08:28
braskoCould anyone tell me what package manager ubuntu uses? I was thinking about switching from debian to ubuntu today.08:28
cyphasebrasko, Synaptic08:28
sethkbrasko, the same one debian uses08:28
cyphaseapt-get08:28
Seveasbrasko, apt, just like debian08:28
cyphaselol08:28
braskoO, Great!08:28
Eleafbshumate, I have encoded mp3's before with this computer08:29
Seveasapt-get, synaptic, adept, aptitude...08:29
zadkielSeveas, do you know of a GUI for editing the services which may work with ubuntu?08:29
sethkbrasko, apt-get, dpkg, dselect (if you are masochistic)08:29
cyphasebrasko, i thought you meant GUI :P08:29
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braskoAre the packages semi out of date? like debian's then?08:29
Eleafbshumate, I'm pretty sure it's my video card08:29
zadkielhoary*08:29
Seveasbrasko, no :)08:29
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erUSULzadkiel, bum?08:29
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sorush20hi guys08:29
freddiecyphase wich do i ckeak08:29
bshumateEleaf: most GNU/Linux MP3 encoding tools rely on lame... not sure your video card would be causing forty random segfaults per day though. ;-)08:29
zadkielerUSUL, have you tried it on hoary? I tried it and couldn't get it to install correctly from synaptic08:29
ossiepashaw, can i set security = host??? and specify the hostname??08:29
braskoGreat, I'm downloading the 'PC (Intel x86) install CD' now. Is that all I should need?08:30
braskoany suggestions?08:30
sethkbrasko, debian has different series of packages, as you know.  So it isn't true, in general, that debian's packages are out of date08:30
Eleafbshumate, the "lame" application works great!08:30
sethkbrasko, it's all you need and it's all there is.08:30
braskoGreat08:30
erUSULzadkiel, i have had it installed in hoary wo problems. i've breezy now08:30
Eleafbshumate, I'm pretty sure it's my video card.  As for, my computer only runs instably on 16 bit mode ( direct rendering )08:30
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braskoYeah, I'm running debian testing, but it still isn't always up to date. However, I've been using it for years, so it's not to much of a problem.08:31
riddleboxis there prelink for ubuntu?08:31
sorush20guys I've installed the dapper but I cant get the kde gui to load.. is this called X? an why isn't it loading?08:31
braskoI was just hearing a lot of good news about ubuntu on lwn, and though I should give it a try08:31
sorush20This in on the new computer I built with AMD 64...08:31
erUSULsorush20, see the topic ;)08:31
zadkielerUSUL, ok, i see. Maybe i'm missing something then.08:31
Eleafbshumate, wow, the lame command line application works awesomely!  = )08:32
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braskoUnfortunatly, I lost power, and my root partition (ext3) won't fix itself, no matter how many times I run fsck.08:32
braskoIn fact, it doesn't even give me error's any more.08:32
braskoWhen I boot, it drops me to a shell, and tell's me to run fsck. After I do that, it tell's me to reboot, when I do that, I'm back to the shell again.08:33
sorush20erUSUL: very help full thanks08:33
sethkbrasko, did you do shutdown with the force fsck flag?08:33
sethkbrasko, as in shutdown -F now08:33
braskono08:33
braskoDo you think that would help?08:34
sethkbrasko, yes, very likely that will fix it08:34
freddiecyphase pz tell me08:34
pashawossie,   ok had to check if Ubuntu included any extra fancy tools08:34
braskoI tried, 'reboot' and 'telinit 0'.08:34
bshumateEleaf: good to hear it!08:34
braskoI'll give that a shot, thanks sethk08:34
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sethkbrasko, nothing to lose, anyway, and the odds are good08:34
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ossienp pashaw , ive changed my config to authenticate as user08:35
_w00thi guys08:35
_w00twhen i try to boot ubuntu from cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?08:35
pashawossie,   ok  you edited the authentication section  and removed the ;  infront of user?08:35
mike__damnit08:36
ossiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/642108:36
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ossieyes pashaw08:36
ossiecheck that link pashaw , i just did that08:36
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NixerXWould someone please point me to a good distupgrade howto from Hoary to Breezy.08:37
erUSUL!breezy08:37
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:37
_w00tcan anyone help me please.08:37
NixerXSup _w00t ?08:37
_w00twhen i try to boot ubuntu from cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?08:37
RorkineIm upgrading this afternoon.  Totally psyched!08:37
XiCillinNixerX, add the breezy repositories to you sources.list file, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade08:38
NixerXubotu and XiCillin, Thank you08:38
ubotuNixerX: Not a clue08:38
_w00tboot:e:\ubuntu 5.04 i386 thats the command i'm using to boot08:38
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pashawossie,    farther up  there is a section that read AUTHENTICATION   few lines under it youll see ; security = user08:38
ilba7r!javadeb08:38
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/08:38
pashawossie,   remove that ;    its good practice08:38
ossieok pashaw08:39
dbernar1_w00t: why not just put the CD in the drive, and restart the computer?08:39
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freddiecyphase tell me or i give up08:39
pashawossie,   ok at type   sudo  smbpasswd -a <username>   use your Ubuntu username and enter the normal password08:39
ossiei have already done that pashaw08:39
ossiecool, ill try now pashaw08:40
NixerXXiCillin, Have you tried this method?08:40
pashawossie,   wait08:40
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ossieok08:40
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ossiesorted pashaw08:41
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ossiethat has done it , yipeeeee08:41
hooker_sorry got disconnected08:41
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pashawossie,   2 things  edit the smb.conf    and add   browseable = yes   to your  [share]     so you can browse it without manually typing each folder08:41
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spikehhow do I view/mount NTFS partitions in Kubuntu?08:41
ossieok pashaw , ill do it now08:41
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pashawossie,  ok  your off then  lots more options for samba to learn08:41
spikehor Ubuntu08:41
_w00tsorry got dc08:41
mahangu_anyway i can force increase the volume on my system? sys volume is at max and mplayer too, and yet i cant hear08:42
dbernar1_w00t: why not just put the CD in the drive, and restart the computer?08:42
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ossiesweet , thanks very much pashaw08:42
XiCillinNIxerX, yes but my direcway internet was so slow i just installed from a cd08:42
Smoked1can anyone see this?08:42
_w00tdbernar1 i did it08:42
Smoked1hmm08:42
_w00tthats what i did08:42
dbernar1Smoked1: I can not see it.08:42
_w00ti changed the boot08:42
_w00tre-start08:42
_w00tand it asks for boot:08:42
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NixerXXiCillin, good advice. I should just download the iso's for Breezy and upgrade from there.08:42
XiCillinnixerx, when i saw how much i had to download i decided to do it another way, but that way works08:42
sethkmahangu_, you need powered speakers08:42
Smoked1whats a good dreamweaver type application for linux?08:42
XiCillinyea thats what i did08:43
dbernar1_w00t: it asked for boot at the Ubuntu screen?08:43
mahangu_sethk, but other movies play fine on my laptop speakers08:43
_w00tyeah08:43
NixerXXiCillin , Can I ask what your connection speeds are?08:43
freddiecyphase plz help me08:43
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_w00tit says to install default type enter and to isntall custom type server08:43
spikehhow do I view/mount NTFS partitions in Ubuntu?08:43
_w00tboot:08:43
dbernar1_w00t: just press enter.08:43
_w00ti did08:43
dbernar1and?08:43
_w00tbut still asks for boot08:43
pashaw_w00t,  is this your first install?  or did the first have an error?08:44
dbernar1_w00t: press enter, and then hold it down until it forfeits and submits.08:44
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XiCillinsure, NixerX, my satallite is really un-reliable. dropped-packets and so forth. download speed isn't bad if its working right. and upload speeds are very slow08:44
ph8hey guys08:44
XiCillinnot sure exactly08:44
_w00tthis is my first install08:44
ph8Can anyone tell me where the keyboard config is? I've got the wrong layout set08:44
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ph8(command line)08:44
pashaw_w00t,   type linux <enter>08:44
NixerXspikeh I think there is something on ww.ubuntugude.org that tells you how to do that.08:44
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dbernar1ph8: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:44
_w00ttype linux when it says boot?08:44
FlashFreakhello08:44
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dbernar1ph8: you mean for a diff langauge?08:45
NixerXXiCillin , Oh Satallite is expensive too isnt it?>08:45
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_rYe_i have a compaq presario V2414NR, amd 64... how do i make the wireless card work? it is not detected by the laptop.. thanks08:45
pashaw_w00t,   you see this right   boot:   <<<?      then do this  boot: linux <hitenter>08:45
ph8ja08:45
ph8I thought I selected dutch but obviously not08:45
_w00tyeah i did see boot08:45
ph8well a dutch keyboard08:45
_w00tok08:45
dbernar1Seveas: ping.08:45
_w00tyou think its gonna work with that?08:45
zadkielwell08:45
zadkielthanks for everything08:45
XiCillinyea08:45
zadkielsee you later08:46
Seveasdbernar1, ICMP ECHO REPLY08:46
zadkielbye08:46
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XiCillinbrb smoke break08:46
pashaw_w00t,   it sholdnt have needed that   maybe a bad CD08:46
ph8dbernar1:  I'm not running X08:46
_w00tpashaw umm08:46
_w00ti have like 20cds08:46
LonesoldierI was wondering, is Ubuntu a good choice for a Linux novice?08:46
ph8It's a command line only box08:46
ph8Lonesoldier:  yes08:46
_w00ti'll try with any other08:46
_w00twell thanks bro08:46
Lonesoldierph8: thanks.08:46
_w00ti'll try in a sec08:46
_w00tand will be back08:46
_rYe_i have a compaq presario V2414NR, amd 64... how do i make the wireless card work? it is not detected by the laptop.. thanks08:46
_w00tappreciated.08:46
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pashaw_w00t,   i ment maybe the download was bad  or the CD burn went bad08:47
juliohi08:47
dbernar1Seveas: help ph8 set up the dutch keyboard through the cli.08:47
_w00tpashaw can be08:47
_w00twill try again08:47
_w00twell thanks08:47
_w00tbrb08:47
Seveasdbernar1, I wouldn't know how..08:47
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erUSULubotu, tell _rYe_ about ndiswrapper08:48
TokenBadhow add scanner into ubuntu?08:48
NixerXthanks all.08:48
dbernar1Seveas: are you from the netherlands, though?08:48
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Seveasdbernar1, 99% if the keyboards here (and 100% of the ones I used) are US layout08:48
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ph8Seveas: I thought you knew all? ;)08:48
ph8It's actually for a friend, I'm english08:48
ph8there's not a config file for the keyboard somewhere though?08:49
Seveasph8, it must be specified in xorg.conf08:49
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Seveasph8, the default is:         Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"08:49
SeveasI guess changing to         Option          "XkbLayout"     "nl"08:49
Seveas would help08:49
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Smoked1To change resalution options do I just edit the xorg config file?08:50
ph8but there's no xorg.conf08:50
ph8as it's not installed?08:50
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humbrarohey folks i need some help with the chown command - i must be missing something blatenetly obvious...08:51
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erUSULph8, all i can say is man install-keymap08:51
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Edganhumbraro: Whats your question?08:51
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humbraroif i do a 'chown -R user.group directory/*', it chowns the whole partition08:51
Edganhumbraro: -R is recursive08:52
SturgeonIs there a way to tell gnome not to show the contents of a window when i move it? (in order to improve performance)08:52
sethkhumbraro, actually, no.  to change everything you need:  chorn -R user:group directory/.08:52
humbraroI know that, but does the whole partition, instead of starting where i tell it to08:52
noppeanyone care to enligthen me on how to actually user gnome-user-share? I have it installed and I enabled it but I have no idea how to access it..08:52
sethkhumbraro, or just the directory08:52
sethkhumbraro, but not *08:52
humbrarooh, a colon, not a dot08:53
EdganSturgeon: That would relate to the window manager, Metacity.08:53
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sethkhumbraro, yes but that's not my point08:53
SturgeonEdgan: is there a configurator for it?08:53
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sethkhumbraro, my point is, use a directory name, or directory/., not directory/*08:53
Edganhumbraro: colons and dots both work, but colons is the new preferred delimiter08:53
humbrarooh, ok08:53
humbrarolemme try that real quick08:54
sethkhumbraro,  I still don't know what you are asking, really.  What do you mean by "not starting where I tell it"?08:54
Edganhumbraro: You want to change the owner and group of all the directories and files in "directory"?08:54
elyHI guys I just installed ubuntu and I'm trying to get Java installed so I can see pages which contain java but while browsing to such sites with FIrefox neither the automatic plug in thingie not the manual seems to install Java.08:54
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elywhat do you suggest?08:54
Langly1whats the command to fire up the configuration for X under ubuntu, not digging it up on the site, and the others I know for other distros arn't working08:54
elythanks08:54
humbraroEdgan: yes08:54
humbrarosethk: what Edgan said08:54
phos-phoros6536.00 bogomips08:54
SEJeff!tell ely about javadeb08:54
sethkhumbraro, then use the directory name08:55
Edganhumbraro: Then chown user:group directory/* should do the job, though it won't do directories or files that start with a dot08:55
phos-phoros6536.99 bogomips even08:55
SEJeffely, check your private message ubotu sent you on how to install java08:55
phos-phorosbogo = bogus?08:55
elyThanks SEJeff !08:55
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elyI ll check it out08:55
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humbrarook, that worked: chown -R user:group directory08:55
SEJeffely, no problem08:55
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SEJeffEly, If you add seveas repository, you can install it from synaptic08:56
humbrarothanks for the help sethk and edgan08:56
Edganhumbraro: You could do it like this. chown user:group directory/* ; chown user:group directory/.[A-z] * ; chown user:group directory/.[0-9] *   Though there is probably an easier way08:56
humbraroI think thats odd behavior though08:56
Langly1Whats the command for configuring X?08:56
ElySO SEJeff that is basically what ubotu just told me to download right?08:57
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SEJeffEly, ubotu gave you a link to seveas website. It contains the deb you need to install but you have to manually download and install it08:57
humbraroEdgan: the problem was, if i did 'chown user.group directory/*', it'd chown the entire partition (/home in this instance)08:57
Edganhumbraro: The only difference between chown -R user:group directory/* and chown -R user:group directory  would be that the owner and group of directory would be changed, not just the contents of it08:57
pashawLaney,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:57
Elyokies understood.08:57
Elythanks08:57
Elylet me go try that08:58
Edganhumbraro: Give us the detail, what was "directory"08:58
SEJeffhumbraro, chown -R user:group /home/username/08:58
humbrarowell, its /home/brianna - my daughters ~08:58
SEJeffhumbraro, don't worry about the *. the -R option is recursive and does all files + subdirectories08:58
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Edganhumbraro: ok, so you were trying chown -R user:group /home/* when you needed chown -R user:group /home/brianna?08:58
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humbrarono, not /home/* /home/brianna/*08:59
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nerdy2Edgan, also * doesn't match dot files08:59
humbraroand it chowns the entire /home partition08:59
humbrarodid the same with /home/.* as well08:59
Edgannerdy2: I said that above08:59
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SEJeffhumbraro: chown -R brianna:brianna /home/brianna08:59
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SEJeffhumbraro, this is not hard09:00
melodiesalut les geeks!  :))09:00
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nerdy2Edgan, sorry, didn't see it09:00
phil_Why won't newly installed packages show up in the menu?09:00
Stew_Lappygeeks? where?09:00
Edganhumbraro: It shouldn't have done that unless there was a symlink in her directory to /home, or something like that09:00
humbrarobut now i do a 'chown -R brianna:brianna brianna' (with pwd as /home) and it works fine09:00
melodielol09:00
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Edganhumbraro: What you are saying it was doing doesn't make sense09:00
humbraroas i said at the beginning - blatently obvious09:01
braskoHow does ubuntu handle kernel updates?09:01
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Seveasbrasko, download, install, reboot09:01
braskoWill I get a new kernel, as they become available?09:01
SEJeffbrasko, Security updates only. Through apt09:01
humbraroEdgan: it doesn't to me either, which is why i came to ask here09:01
braskoand, are they patched? or stock?09:01
Edganhumbraro: Let me see if I can figure it out09:01
Eleafhow come when I compress an aiff file that is the same as another mp3 file.  And compress that as an mp3, it is larger?09:01
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Seveaspatched09:01
gnomefreakbrasko, patched and if you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade you will get it09:01
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humbraroEdgan: if you have a spare throw-away partition lying around you could try it09:01
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braskoOK, thanks.09:02
dbernar1Eleaf: larger than what? Larger than the aiff, or the mp3?09:02
Edganhumbraro: I know a better way09:02
Eleafdbernar1, larger than the mp309:02
gnomefreak!bug09:02
ubotuTo file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages09:02
Edganhumbraro: echo /home/edgan/*09:02
SEJeffhumbraro, Whatever you did likely affected the special file, ".." which means parent directory09:02
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Eleafdbernar1, I converted an mp3 to an aiff and edited that.  Then converted that again to mp3, it is larger than the origional09:02
dbernar1Eleaf: I can think of the rate thing, not sure what it is called, the quality setting.09:02
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thegladiatori am running no package uopdates and yet my upadte manager doesnt open asying it cant open th lock09:02
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humbraroSEJeff: GOOD CALL! .* might also include ..09:03
Eleafdbernar1, even using a smaller bitrate09:03
Edganhumbraro: That doesn't include . files and hence shouldn't have escaped from the home directory, and even if it did for some reason, directory vs. directory/* shouldn't have made much of a difference09:03
Edganhumbraro: try this09:03
levanderhow do I pass this whole command to sudo?  So that the shell doesn't try to open /etc/fstab with my user's permissions, but with root's permissions? 'sudo grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab'09:03
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Edganhumbraro: echo /home/brianna/* and tell me if it means .anything09:03
melodiehe men! some of you read french here ?  ;o)09:04
pashawlevander,   are try to pull out any Music enties in an fstab?09:04
BxLmelodie, #ubuntu-fr09:04
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Edganlevander: try sudo 'grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab' or sudo "grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab"09:04
psusilevander, sudo bash -c 'foo >> /bar'09:04
Kindred!fr09:04
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:04
humbraroedgan it prints "/home/brianna/Desktop", which is the only dir in there09:04
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levanderEdgan: I tried those, didn't work09:04
ElySEJeff, I see sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 with an extension ending in .deb which one should I get? is either one ok?09:04
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Elysorry to be a pain09:04
Elylol09:04
levanderpsusi: yeah, i'll try your09:04
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melodieKindred, some people wrote a book about Ubuntu in french :)09:04
levanderyours*09:04
titanium_platypuhey09:05
Edganhumbraro: So it shouldn't have done all of /home if you just did a chown -R /home/brianna/*09:05
vilefridgepashaw:  Thanks for the earlier suggestion w/ dpkg-reconfigure.  It worked!  Don't know what had been going on there before.09:05
melodiewritten by 3 people09:05
SEJeffEly, jre == java runtime environment. j2sdk = java software development kit. To make java run in webpages, you only need the jre09:05
Kindredmelodie: good :)09:05
Edganhumbraro: I mean  chown -R user.group /home/brianna/*09:05
pashawvilefridge,   great to hear09:05
riddleboxdoes kubuntu use the kde 3.509:05
titanium_platypuI am considering switching from Fedora to Ubuntu, and would like a brief description of the differences I'll encounter.  I am primarily interested in two things: games :-D, and package/application management.09:05
titanium_platypucan someone give me that info?09:05
Elyok thanks!09:05
Elybrb09:05
humbraroEdgan: right, but since the start of this, i've done 'chown -R brianna:brianna /home/brianna' and it worked09:05
SEJefftitanium_platypu, Package management in ubuntu is 10x better. I switched from fedora --> ubuntu09:06
Edganhumbraro: I suspect you typoed the first time09:06
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BxLtitanium_platypu, apt-get. it's like yum, but in better.09:06
bshumatetitanium_platypu: i don't play many games, but package management will certainly be better for you in Ubuntu, but that's just my $0.02 USD ;-)09:06
SEJefftitanium_platypu, And synaptic or gnome-app-install are very nice frontends to apt-get09:06
Edgantitanium_platypu: There isn't big difference in general between the two in those area. Ubuntu in general makes a better desktop though, with a few issues.09:07
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vilefridgepashaw:  new issue :)  The hard drives in use were (2) 40GB drives.  One with Windows 2000, the other with Ubuntu 5.10.  I copied each drive to a striped 80GB array.  Grub no longer presents a boot menu.  Is there a way to reload grub without ruining the data?09:07
humbraroeither way, i got the syntax right now, so thanks very much09:07
SEJeffhumbraro, yw09:07
levanderpsusi: thanks, yours worked!09:07
skonvilefridge: reinstall it from the original Ubuntu install disk09:07
melodieKindred, here is the info:http://www.eyrolles.com/Accueil/Livre/9782212116083/09:07
melodiewao!!!!!!09:07
pashawlevander, did you get it working?09:07
titanium_platyputhanks for the info.  So, what games does Ubuntu come with (I don't need to know them all; I'm basically just interested in if it has a nice complement of them like Fedora does)?  Also, I know what apt is, and what format of package does Ubuntu use?09:08
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pashawvilefridge,   why would you want a striped array?  curious?09:08
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sproingievilefridge: go into expert install mode on the ubuntu install disk and skip to the "install bootloader" step09:09
Edgantitanium_platypu: The package format of Ubuntu is deb, like Debian, which it is based on09:09
garryI prefer the new polkadot array myself.09:09
gnomefreaktitanium_platypu, ubuntu uses .debs instead of .rpms09:09
ltibor65boys, tell me a midi player for Ubuntu!09:09
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Sepheebearvilefridge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:10
titanium_platypuokay, thanks.....so I guess my last question is, does it have a lot of nice little games? :-P09:10
vilefridgepashaw: speed.  I wanted to experience striped raptors, but ended up getting some NCQ seagates, on budget :P09:10
SEJefftitanium_platypu, Ubuntu has the gnome-games that fedora has. All of them. It also has things "Battle for Wesnoth" "Lincity-ng" "Chromium" etc. Not a huge difference vs fedora as far as that goes09:10
Edgantitanium_platypu: Most linux distros have all the same games09:10
skontitanium_platypu: penguin racer is a good one :-D09:10
vilefridgeskon, sproingie, Sepheebear: Thanks for the info, I'll pop my Install disc in and give that a whirl!  =)09:10
Edgantitanium_platypu: If you want something especial you download the linux clients for FPSs, or run something like Cedega to play Windows games.09:11
garryExcept we don't have the kernel panic game usually, You have to work to install it.09:11
titanium_platypuyeah, I know most of them have the same games....but Fedora is missing some of the really good ones like Chromium and stuff.09:11
titanium_platypuI don't want anything special.09:11
SEJefftitanium_platypu, Well Ubuntu has those09:11
titanium_platypuIt already sounds like it has a much better game selection than Fedora.09:11
titanium_platypuOkay, thanks guys, I think I'll definitely do it.09:11
SEJefftitanium_platypu, I play iagno, chromium, and battle for wesnoth all the time when I'm bored09:11
titanium_platypuOh, yeah, there was one more thing....is there anything that a lot of people use that Ubuntu doesn't come with?  DVD player, etc.09:12
titanium_platypulike will I have to tweak it?09:12
bshumateFrozen Bubble is not installed by default, so you need to install that if you anticipate doing any gaming with Linus ;-)09:12
titanium_platyputo get stuff that most people like to use?09:12
SEJefftitanium_platypu, Well those things are patent encumbered and will never be installed by default09:12
garrysupport for my epson CX6600 printer. oops, sorry bout that.09:12
SEJefftitanium_platypu, Installing mp3 / divx support is super easy. Enable the universe / multiverse repository and install gstreamer0.8-plugins*09:13
BxLtitanium_platypu, there is a big "howto" to enable all the normal thing09:13
BxLcalled the ubuntu starter guide.09:13
garryor maybe I should check. maybe its supported now.09:14
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cableguywhats up09:14
titanium_platypusweet.  That Ubuntu starter guide should help me out.  Anything else anybody thinks I ought to know about migrating from Fedora to Ubuntu?09:14
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titanium_platypubrb09:15
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comadrejahello, I get this error when trying to use opengl apps09:15
comadrejaERROR: line 114, Function intelInitDriver, File intel_screen.c09:15
comadrejalibGL error: InitDriver failed09:15
comadrejalibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering09:15
gnomefreakhow do you upgrade only one package i thought it was sudo apt-get upgrade <packagename>09:15
gnomefreakcomadreja, please use pastebin to paste dont paste in here09:16
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Seveasgnomefreak, you can use upgrade or install09:16
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Edgantitanium_platypu: http://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/~nsoracco/rpms/ has chormium binary and source rpms for fc409:16
melodiegnomefreak, apt-get install yourpackage09:16
gnomefreakok ty09:16
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Mystahello everyone09:16
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cableguyhello09:17
dannyhey anyone no any gd how to's on setting up a ftp on a webserver09:17
EdganSEJeff: Has codec support via win32 dlls got any easier to install?09:17
CyfrHi, I have a logitech quickcam zoom... I'm trying to use webcam in Mercury (sort of works in aMSN!)... anyway, my webcam dosnt seem to stop using applications properly when they close down09:17
XiCillincan you use x86 win32 codecs on breezy64?09:17
CyfrIs there a way to like unload it then load it again?09:17
skondanny: just do sudo apt-get install ftpd09:17
pashawdanny,   google    ftpprogram guide        like   proftp guide09:18
EdganXiCillin: I think you would have to use a chroot with the 32bit version of mplayer or xine09:18
dannyk thanks09:18
Mystai was looking info on theming ubuntu09:18
Mystalooking for info...09:18
Sepheebeardanny: apt-get install proftpd-doc09:18
pashawMysta,  http://www.gnome-look.org/09:18
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Mystathx pashaw09:19
ElySEJeff, Now I have this called sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb on my desktop I tried to execute it but it just tried to open in the application Archive Manager. I see there's a Package Manager I tried browing through that program to install it but I dont see a way.09:19
Elyright clicking doenst give me any options to install either09:19
Mystaanyone installed on vmware yet?09:20
CyfrAnyone know about the webcam unloading thing? :(09:20
Elyshould I do this in the terminal?09:20
garryWow, my epson CX6600 printer works now.09:20
gnomefreakok i think i got it i was trying to apt-get install locales 2.3.7-1 and all i needed was locales :)09:20
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EdganMysta: I have seen a howto in the forums before. I use VMware regularly.09:20
dirk__I have a quick question about adding something to the Gnome menu, I use the command "wine c:\\Program\ Files\\Sage\ Software\\Peachtree\\peachw.exe" to get my accounting package to run, but when I put the identical line in the menu it doesn't work, any help?09:21
SepheebearEly: open a terminal and do "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb"09:21
Elyok thanks Sepheebear !09:21
Mystaedgan: i'll search the forums for the howto, unless you can point me there...09:21
EdganEly: You would probably be better off with a newer version sun's jre is up to 1.5.0_0609:21
XiCillinanyone got mplayer working on amd64?09:21
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Elyhmmm I didnt see that one let me check again09:22
SturgeonI have a question here. I want to run a program as a normal user, but with high priority (with nice -n -19, say) but only root can do that. How can i do this?09:22
Elybrb09:22
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Sturgeonif i use sudo nice -n -19 program, it will run as root09:22
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dbernar1Sturgeon: the higher the nice number the lower priority, it stands for "I am nice, this is how much I am nice to other users"09:24
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humbraroSturgeon: you should be able to start the process, the re-nice it as root - my understanding is that only root can nice a program up, ie, make it higher priority09:24
dbernar1Do you get that?09:24
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epphey how do i set up the java sdk?09:25
Elydpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):09:25
Ely cannot access archive: No such file or directory09:25
humbraroSturgeon: that should read theN re-nice it as root09:25
Elyhow do I navigate to the desktop where the file is?09:26
Elycd then what?09:26
Elylol I know the command but no idea the path09:26
dbernar1cd ~/Desktop09:26
Elywow that's easy09:26
Elythanks09:26
dbernar1$2009:26
dbernar1easy, but expensive.09:26
Elyhaha09:26
_rYe_is this right? "sudo ndiswrapper -i /Desktop/to/netbc564.inf"09:27
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EdganXiCillin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%2909:27
windowsrefundgreets09:27
dbernar1_rYe_: does it do what you want it to?09:27
ElyUnpacking sun-j2re1.5 (from sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb) ...09:28
ElySetting up sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update06) ...09:28
Elyely@Ubuntu:~/Desktop$09:28
Elyis that it?09:28
dbernar1Ely: mostly.09:28
pashaw!enter09:28
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!09:28
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windowsrefundin order to obtain mysql libraries and headers, should I just install libmysqlclient14-dev?09:28
_rYe_dbernar1: i dont knw09:28
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dbernar1_rYe_: go ahead and try.09:28
garryI got to say, this is one of the most well behaved forums I've been in. Some forums like I'm sad to say alt.linux you say something incorrect, and its like a capitol offense. Make a mistake here and people kindly help you learn. So peaceful here, I think I might pinch myself and wake up.09:28
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eppanyone sucessfully developing in java?09:28
_rYe_dbernar1: it doesnt work09:28
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dbernar1epp: what is succesfully?09:29
gnomefreakthe package x-window-system-core is that needed for X to be usable?09:29
garryalt.linux Where virtual road rage lives forever.09:29
KnowerrorsHey all, Im getting this error when I try start Firefox "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" , help please09:29
dbernar1_rYe_: what is it not doing? and what is it doing?09:29
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CyfrAnyone know how I can reload my webcam so that applications dont think its in use? :(09:29
eppdbernar1, like set up the sdk so java sompiles correctly09:29
eppcopiles*09:29
eppcompiles*09:29
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dbernar1!info x-window-system-core09:29
epphehe09:29
ubotux-window-system-core: (X Window System core components), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 160 kB09:29
dbernar1epp: yes.09:29
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gnomefreakok ty so its safe to remove :)09:29
EdganCyfr: Do you know the device file in /dev for it?09:29
ericmoritz\0hi, I'm trying to get amarok and/or juk to use musicbrainz with my mp3 files, from what I see, mp3 support for libtunepimp was left out, can anyone help me in getting this working?09:29
eppdbernar1, are u useing kedevelop?09:29
Cyfrhmm no is there a way to tell?09:30
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dbernar1gnomefreak: looks like, see what else it tries to remove.09:30
Elywow that was easy, thanks guys09:30
Elyjava is installed now09:30
gnomefreaka few libs09:30
Elyeasy with your help of course lol09:30
EdganCyfr: dmesg might mention it after you have plugged it in09:30
garryhand over a cup. Thanks Ely. THat hit the spot.09:30
Elylol09:30
dbernar1epp: no. Eclipse myself, but I am a student, I do not develop successfully, and you sdhould have asked whether anyone can compile successfully to reflect what you mean.09:30
dirk__I have a quick question about adding something to the Gnome menu, I use the command "wine c:\\Program\ Files\\Sage\ Software\\Peachtree\\peachw.exe" to get my accounting package to run, but when I put the identical line in the menu it doesn't work, any help?09:30
gnomefreak8 will be removed 15 will be installed and 336 will be updated09:30
dbernar1Ely: help epp then.09:31
Elywhat does he/she need?09:31
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Elyepp you trying to install Java too?09:31
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eppEly, Si.09:31
enycdirk__: quoting09:31
Java_the_HuttHello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?09:31
Elylol you speak spanish?09:31
dbernar1Ely: ya, but wants the sdk rather than the jre, make sure you get that one.09:31
EdganCyfr: In general you problem is probably one of two things. Either some program is holding on to it, and you need to kill it. Or the driver is buggy and needs to be unloaded. lsof is a useful command for the first problem and lsmod and rmmod would be useful for the second.09:32
enycdirk__: the shell is converting the \\ into \09:32
Elyoh boy09:32
eppEly, no... its just fun.09:32
Elylol ok I speak Spanish anyway so.....09:32
Elyok I ll help you09:32
Elyone sec09:32
enycdirk__: you may need to use \ or \\\\  instead of \\09:32
enycdirk__: or you may need to put the command in " quotes09:32
enycdirk__: let me know what works ;-)09:32
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Elyfirst go to this page: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/09:33
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garryWe need a command that says killtherottonprocessIcan'tFindTheNameOf and alias it as Killit!09:33
dbernar1maybe even the part after wine in quotes only.09:33
enycdirk__: you (way) be able to use / instead of \ on the wine command (like in smbclient).. unsure...09:33
Seveasgarry, kill -9 -109:33
enycdirk__: let me know what works ;-)09:33
Elyohhh09:33
SeveasWARNING, that kills all your processes09:33
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garryhehe09:33
Elylol I had already gotten the direct link to the file and everything lol09:33
mikoket1bonsoir  y  a t il un franais ?09:34
dbernar1ubotu tell Ely about javadeb09:34
garryThat's the command that runs in my head every time I wake up, now I know what's wrong.09:34
gnomefreak!fr09:34
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:34
Ely:)09:34
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mikoket1#ubuntu-fr09:34
kakeihey where can i edit the color of the desktop pager (desktop 1) (desktop 2) etc.09:34
Elybrb going to play with this OS for a bit, nice meeting you all.09:34
Cyfrcry :<09:35
Elyyou are all very cool09:35
Cyfrim such a newb ;d09:35
Cyfrstupid webcam09:35
eppEly, wait.09:35
garryyep, they sure are.09:35
_rYe_how do i ext in terminal mode and save the changes that i made..... i installed a driver for wireless lan09:35
Elyyeah?09:35
garryext?09:35
eppEli, sorry i had to go for a minute, so thats all i have to do is go to that page?09:35
Elylol09:36
Elynow you are pulling my leg09:36
CyfrI dont think its an application I think its a dodgy driver09:36
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theconartistgrr09:36
Cyfrbecause if I unplug the usb webcam and plug it in elsewhere it still lights up green09:36
Cyfr:P09:36
theconartistwine is pissing me off09:36
Elyno, you go that page then get the file then open terminal then type a command and boom!!09:36
Elydone09:36
Elylol09:36
_rYe_how do i exit in terminal mode and save the changes that i made..... i installed a driver for wireless lan09:36
greenpenguin13kakei: in the source code :p09:36
dm'I am in dapper !! And i dont have a wireless card? anyone else find this problem????09:36
garryNext version of Fedora - Panicky Porcupine.09:36
Edgangarry: Maybe something like kill -9 `ps -ax -o pid | pickrandom`09:36
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garryEdgan haha09:37
kakeigreenpenguin13, lol, i have kde have to be a way09:37
HobartLeap second details for ubuntu?09:37
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eppyeah i know that...09:37
Elyoh one more question, is anyway to access my Windows XP partition from here?09:37
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Elyepp I know you know hehe.09:37
pashawdm,   dapper is ment for users that can fix thier own problems09:37
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Hobartzdump -v right/US/Mountain | grep 2005  doesn't show leap second fix09:38
EdganCyfr: ok, we can run with the driver assumption, paste the output of /sbin/lsmod to www.pastebin.com09:38
garryIf my mind were running an operating system it would be Migrainesoft Bob.09:38
dmpashaw dude. dont comment if you dont have anything useful to say09:38
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EdganEly: there is a ntfs driver that would let you mount the XP partition09:39
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jadewolfHello I've been hearing a bit about ubuntu and was wondering if someone could tell me what makes it a better choice over any other 'flavour' of linux?09:39
eppEli, which file... the SDK?09:39
dbernar1Edgan: where is this driver?09:39
epp1.4 or .15?09:39
_rYe_dbernar1: how do i save and exit in the terminal?09:39
iamsthithahey.. can anyone send me their us.map.gz ?09:39
dbernar1ubotu: tell ely about ntfs09:39
Elyhttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb09:39
Edgandbernar1: That is the point, we aren't sure, so I want a list of loaded modules09:39
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dbernar1_rYe_: what were we doing? what program?09:39
nautiazn85Hmm... should i run a webserver off of ubuntu or debian?09:39
Elythat's the one epp, now I dont know if you are serious or what, just in case lol.09:39
dbernar1Edgan: for ntfs?09:39
captainredbeardEly, you can mount and read from it following www.ubuntuguide.org but can't write to it09:39
Elyto exit the terminal type exit09:39
dbernar1ubotu: tell Edgan about ntfs09:39
ElyI think lol09:39
Edgandbernar1: ah, ntfs09:39
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garryEase of install, regular updates, huge repositories, great community support.09:40
self_hello all09:40
eppEly, no just pullin your leg this time =).09:40
_rYe_dbernar1: i just installed a driver in terminal mode... how do i save and exit? i just type exit?09:40
Elylol09:40
Elybrb now for real09:40
self_how do i log in as root in ubuntu?09:40
titanium_platypuback09:40
Edgandbernar1: It is in the standard kernel source code, but not sure Ubuntu includes it by default.09:40
pashawdm,   dont take it personal  i dont know your ability level     if your not a beginner  my apoligies09:40
dbernar1_rYe_: exit exits the terminal. the terminal does not need to be saved. it is a command line.09:40
titanium_platypuokay, well, thanks a lot, guys.  I appreciate the info :)09:41
Elycaptainredbeard, thanks!09:41
garryWe need a bot that auto-answers certain faqs.09:41
dbernar1Edgan: yes, Ubuntu does. Read the link Ubotu sent you.09:41
dmpashaw im not but i was asking for quick reference, so i dont have to spend all my time on just my wireless card09:41
Edgandbernar1: yeah, I was just reading http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs09:41
captainredbeardself_ run gdm_admin and enable root log on, then log out, and log in as root09:41
dbernar1captainredbeard: we do not use ubuntuguide, and we use:09:41
dbernar1!ntfs09:41
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Stew_LappyIs ubuntu married? I am just so in love with this09:41
dbernar1!+ntfs09:41
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK09:41
pashawdm,   my comment is the truth    its helps stop beginners from wasting time with dapper09:42
captainredbearddbernar1, why no longer use ubuntuguide?09:42
self_how do i log in as root in ubuntu i have setthe password but it says i cannot log in from this screen09:42
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dmpashaw aye :) hehe im testing it full time09:42
dbernar1ubotu: tell captainredbeard about ubuntuguide09:42
self_lol09:42
pashawdm,   good luck tho seriously09:42
dmpashaw thanks09:42
CyfrEdgan, http://pastebin.com/48559109:42
Edganubotu: tell Edgan about ubuntuguide09:42
self_<<is under pressure09:42
jadewolfJust 1 CD to download for install?09:42
riddleboxself_:I think you are supposed to use sudo commandname09:42
dbernar1!+ask the bot09:42
self_in aterminal?09:42
ubotufrom memory, ask the bot is to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example. to find out whether a package is in the official !repos and in which one, /msg ubotu info packagename, or to find which packages contain a file/keyword, /msg ubotu find keyword09:42
self_sudo root?09:43
riddleboxself_:yeah, I believe there may be a write to allow you to log in as root09:43
pashawdm,   then hurry it up  i would like to use the released version  :p09:43
self_ok ill give it a go09:43
jlundSo I have a history file from Synaptic of packages that I just installed to test that I would now like to remove. I've used sed to remove all of the version information so I have a clean list of just package names. What I am wondering is if there is a way to use this file as the argument for apt-get remove.09:43
dm pashaw hehe..09:43
dmpashaw so far install was about 5x faster than breezy was09:43
riddleboxself_: no lets say you want to run synaptic from commandline. sudo synaptic09:43
garryself_,  The logging in by root is disabled by defualt. It keeps the viruses out for one thing. Most all you need to do is put sudo before the command you want to execute, It asks for a password and you give it your regular user account password, then the command runs.09:44
jadewolfGarry: do i just download the ubuntu 5.10 Install CD for my Arch?09:44
captainredbeardself_ why do you want to log on as root anyway? its dangerous09:44
EdganCyfr: ok, the module is pwc09:44
dbernar1ubotu: tell self_ about root09:44
dmpashaw but it doesnt have alot of the updates, and flight 2 would not install on my system09:44
EdganCyfr: as root, you should try rmmod pwc09:44
garryjadewolf far as I know.09:44
self_sudo root is not right..lol09:44
kakeiwho can help me chaging the colors of the 1,2,3,4 (DESKTOPS) http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1473/kakei0vx.jpg09:44
dbernar1jadewolf: ya, that is it.09:44
CyfrOkay done, its either hanging or doing something :p my pointers on a blank line in termnial now ;z09:44
pashawdm,   figured when i read it was alpha i skipped   besides im used to debian being a bit behind everyone esle anyway  :)09:45
greenpenguin13kakei: try #kubuntu09:45
Igahi everyone ; I just started a low-level format, does anybody know how many time it will take before it ends ?09:45
dmpashaw well from what i hear its blowing gentoo out the window09:45
self_i have to executa a command and i need root to do it09:45
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self_execute even09:45
EdganCyfr: Hmm, maybe it is a program, lets try this09:45
self_lol09:45
dbernar1self_: read the page Ubotu linked you to. or "sudo command" works09:46
lightbrightanyone home?09:46
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dbernar1I am at work09:46
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garryjadewolf if you don't find your arch, say you have a pentium, you get the i386 and when ubuntu starts up it seems to sense that you could use a better arch and offers to download and install kernels for 686/Pentiums09:46
EdganCyfr: lsof -n | grep video  as root09:46
lightbrightdbernar1: what you do for work?09:46
QT4DancePlease I need help, Any body here has Laptop with built in Bluetooth?09:46
lightbrightQT4Dance: no sorry09:46
dbernar1lightbright: tech support for Comcast.09:46
captainredbeardyeah self_ you just need to place "sudo" before the command09:46
jadewolfGarry: I see09:46
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lightbrightdbernar1: whats Comcast?09:46
Cyfrokay done that Edgan09:46
SturgeonWhere are the aliases stored?09:46
QT4Dance:(09:46
self_ah i see09:46
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dbernar1lightbright: comcast.com09:47
SturgeonI see that there is an alias "ls=ls --color=auto" but i can't find where it is created09:47
lightbrightdbernar1: what they do>09:47
gnomefreakcomcast is a cable/isp company09:47
EdganCyfr: any output?09:47
Cyfrnope09:47
lightbrightgnomefreak: ah opk09:47
dbernar1Sturgeon: in /etc/bash.bashrc most likely.09:47
alvarohello, i installed things using automatix, and now it says that i have updates like installing opera, x-chat, totem-xine --- but i already have these installed, should i just click install anyways?09:47
gnomefreakmainly in north east us09:47
EdganCyfr: That would suggest it isn't a program.09:47
garryyep, click them installs.09:47
captainredbeardalvaro, i wouldn't recommend using automatix, either update your repos or find a deb somewher else09:48
dbernar1alvaro: you should stop using automatix most likely. But I never used it so I do not know, I just heard stories here that it breaks things.09:48
gnomefreak!automatrix09:48
ubotuNo idea, gnomefreak09:48
IgaNobody knows how many time a low-level format on a 160 GB 7200 rpm Seagate hard disk will take ?09:48
TTiluswhats the easiest way to find out if certain drivers (sk98lin, bmc4400 aka b44) included in most recent linux kernel?09:48
Cyfrshould I just tru rebooting? :p09:48
Cyfrtry*09:48
garryoops, I missed something apparrently, nix my advice.09:48
lightbrightI have heard (not sure) that automatix causes a LOT of trouble09:48
gnomefreakyou used to knwo it :(09:48
EdganCyfr: and pwc isn't used by another module, so if rmmod fails, your only recourse is to reboot09:48
Cyfrbrb ;)09:48
alvarowell last night someone recommended me here to get automatix to install opera :S09:48
KnowerrorsI think my java plugin for Firefox is linked wrong, I get "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" anybody know how to fix this?09:48
self_si have to be logged in as root the sysyem will not accept sudo09:48
pashaw!automatix09:48
ubotuhmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!09:48
jadewolfGarry: how is ubuntu with ATI video cards?09:49
gnomefreakspelled it wrong :(09:49
captainredbeardjadewolf, depends what card :P09:49
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jadewolf9800 Pro 128M09:49
wizardjamesis there a such fuction for xmms?09:49
pashaw!tell jadewolf about ati09:49
gnomefreakalvaro, i wouldnt use it09:49
captainredbeardjadewolf, that card should work fine, you just need to install and use the fglrx driver instead of the ati one09:49
self_ill refrase that..lol i have to be logged in as root because the sytem will not allow the command09:49
EdganIga: There really isn't such a thing as a low level format anymore. The closest you get is just writting zeros across the whole drive.09:50
lightbrightgnomefreak: you not going out for new years eve?09:50
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garryjadewolf I here there are some issues. I heard there is some sort of fix recently, I liked ati, but use nvidia myself. Ye might want to google ubuntu breezy ATI to see what its all about.09:50
self_hello gnome..lol09:50
IgaI have got Ati 9500 Pro 128m, it works fine ;-)09:50
pashawalvaro,   its not recommended as it can really hose a system09:50
gnomefreaklightbright, im not sure yet maybe to a friends09:50
alvaroshould i remove it then?09:50
self_i can now open a terminal in a folder..lol09:50
pashaw!tell alvaro about opera09:50
garryIga, did ye have to do anything special to get it working?09:50
alvaroi already used it thought09:51
lightbrightgnomefreak: I didnt go out, not worth the hassle09:51
gnomefreakopera can be found at opera.com or you can get an opera repo from easysource09:51
alvarothough(09:51
pashawalvaro,   just dont use it anymore09:51
lightbrightgnomefreak: stay at home, its safer09:51
alvaroshould i remove automatix then?09:51
lightbrightalvaro: I would09:51
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gnomefreaklol lightbright very true09:51
alvarowhat's the command to remove it? :P09:51
lightbrightalvaro: I have heard (not sure, cannot 100% verify) that automatix causes a LOT of trouble09:51
self_gnome is not talking to me ..winge09:51
self_lol09:51
Stew_Lappyis there a program to use par files?09:51
garryOops, gotta rush.09:51
lightbrightgnomefreak: yes, I have a feeling to ask you to stay at home for some reason09:52
gnomefreaksudo apt-get remove --purge automatix?09:52
KnowerrorsAnyone knowing about java plugin for FF, should it be linked to /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ns4, ns610, or ns610-gcc32?09:52
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lightbrightself_: would you like a hug?09:52
dirk__enyc:finaly got it to go, I ended up w/o quotes but w/ triplle '\'09:52
TTiluswhats the easiest way to find out if certain drivers (sk98lin, bmc4400 aka b44) included in most recent linux kernel?  (wouldnt like to download sources only to do find -name)09:52
dirk__enyc: Thanks alot.09:52
self_er i dont know09:52
greenpenguin13is it possible to start X apps so they persist across gnome sessions?09:52
gnomefreakubotu tell Knowerrors about java09:52
self_lol09:52
self_its new year me thinks09:52
lightbrightself_: you seem like you need some attention :P09:52
lightbrightself_: feeling lonely?09:52
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EdganIga: The reason is that drives reallocate bad blocks automatically, so there is a layer of abstraction that has been added. If you want to "format" it to clean it before you ship it to someone, sale it, or destory it, there are programs to do multiple passes of writes to make detection of previous data at least harder.09:52
self_help..<<is male09:53
ElyYou have all been very helpful, I gotto go, see you all soon.09:53
self_lmao09:53
Sturgeondbernar1: nope, not there :(09:53
self_sorry09:53
self_any ways how do i log in as root09:53
self_:p09:53
lightbrightself_: yes its possible09:53
dbernar1Sturgeon: /etc/profile?09:53
Stew_Lappyis there a program to use par files?09:53
Sturgeondbernar1: neither09:53
dbernar1!root09:53
ubotuI heard root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password09:53
gnomefreakself_,  use sudo09:54
captainredbeardself_ have you locked your self out of the sudoers file?09:54
self_gnome i have tried sudo in front of the code but the sytem will not allow it09:54
Edgangreenpenguin13: You would need something like vnc, nomachine, or something like that. They would allow you to disconnect the viewing without killing whats running.09:54
self_i have to be logged in as root09:54
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gnomefreakself_, what does it say?09:54
lightbrightself_: want to know how?09:54
captainredbeardself_ what command is it?09:54
j2daoshhows it going everyone09:54
self_its a piece of code09:55
lightbrightself_: if you want to log in as root, do this. Boot-up computer09:55
lightbrightself_: If GRUB menu is hidden, press 'Esc' to enter the GRUB menu09:55
eppwhats the command to runa  deb file?09:55
gnomefreakself_,  define peice of code09:55
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lightbrightself_: If GRUB password is set, press 'p' to unlock the GRUB menu09:55
j2daoshepp09:55
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lightbrightself_: Select Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-38609:55
j2daoshdpkg -i (for install) filename09:55
lightbrightself_: then, Press 'e' to edit the commands before booting09:55
gnomefreaksudo dpkg -i <faile.deb09:55
lightbrightself_: Select kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash09:55
lightbrightself_: Press 'e' to edit the selected command in the boot sequence09:55
Edgandbernar1: I am not a big fan of the maintainers pushing of sudo. It is was of the negative aspects of Ubuntu IMHO.09:55
j2daoshoh yeah... sudo that09:55
j2daoshlol09:56
greenpenguin13i was thinking more about being able to logout (say after changing something) and login with gaim still running09:56
lightbrightself_: , then, Add "rw init=/bin/bash" to the end of the arguments09:56
gnomefreak2.6.10-5??????????09:56
eppj2daosh, thank you09:56
j2daoshur welcome09:56
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lightbrightself_: then Press 'b' to boot!  this will log you in as root09:56
self_first line is:QEMU=/tmp/allinoneqemu_linux.$$..09:56
lightbrightself_: did you get all that?09:56
dbernar1Edgan: nice of you to share?09:56
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gnomefreakisnt breezy on 2.6.12-10?09:56
j2daoshwoot woot... i feel special cuz i answered a question09:56
self_yes i will try it09:56
lightbrightself_: or whatever your kernel is09:56
lightbrightgnomefreak: yeah whatever his kernel is09:56
j2daoshbut now i got one... its an easy one though and i just need clarification09:56
xt3rminalxhow could I startx?09:56
self_:-)09:57
gnomefreakoh ok09:57
gnomefreakscared me for a min there09:57
Sturgeonany other ideas about where alias may be declared by default?09:57
self_how come we are all on here at newyear?..lol09:57
j2daoshin order to shared files (read and write) between my linux box and every other computer in my house... i have to set one drive with an nfs partition correct?09:57
Edgangreenpenguin13: A friend of mine talked about writing an X proxy that would let you do that, but he never wrote it. :(09:57
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lightbrightself_: did you get all that?09:57
self_yes..09:57
Knowerrorsgnomefreak: read that wiki, no help, I don't have an ns7 folder09:57
lightbrightself_: whats new year anyway mean to you?09:57
self_ihave coppied it09:57
lightbrightself_: well go now and log in as root then :P09:57
pashawj2daosh,   only if they are all unix    otherwise use samba09:58
self_well its a time for forgiveness..and a new start09:58
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eppnew years means get smashed and fuck!09:58
self_lol09:58
self_maybe that too09:58
j2daoshpashaw... i was thinking about that but i cant seem to share the folder09:58
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gnomefreakKnowerrors, you installed j2re already?09:58
pashawj2daosh,   you can share any  format the system its in can read  ext2 ext3  ntfs(readonly)   otherwise ntfs if windwows is running09:59
greenpenguin13oh well09:59
lightbrightself_: forgiviness sets a prisoner free, only to realise that all along that prisoner was YOU09:59
self_<<is going to get er squiffy laters me thinks09:59
self_you may be right09:59
pashawj2daosh, you want to share a linux folder?  or off your windows?09:59
j2daoshi made a shared folder on my linux box and shared with out with smb... but when i went upstairs to try and get into that folder with the windows box it wouldn't see the folder... or my linux box for that matter09:59
Java_the_Huttanyone experience with GPRS /Edge ?09:59
j2daoshboth... linux folder just for the moment09:59
j2daoshonce i get that down then i can share out some windows ones09:59
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self_but ...life is what you make it10:00
lightbrightself_: hatred is like drinking posion and waiting for the other person to die10:00
pashawj2daosh,   ok  sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf    did you   sudo  smbpasswd -a username    your linux user?10:00
self_lmao..10:00
j2daoshnope...10:00
pashawj2daosh,   sorry  changed my question mid typing10:00
j2daoshits ok... i didn't do either of those lol10:00
self_no why wait..lol10:00
pashawj2daosh,   lol10:00
pashawj2daosh,   ok first you can use   system>admin>sharedfolder10:01
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j2daoshso which one first? the gedit? or put a password on it10:01
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jhennhow do i tell which version of x.org i have installed?10:01
j2daoshok10:01
Knowerrorsgnomefreak: yeah10:01
j2daoshoh... but that brings up another interesting question10:01
j2daoshi cant do any admin stuff from this account im on right now....10:01
j2daoshi dont know why10:02
Knowerrorsgnomefreak: I just need the plugin to point to the right place10:02
j2daoshi can su10:02
pashawj2daosh,   then i like to sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf   find the area that reads AUTHENTICATION and remove the ; infront of security-user10:02
j2daoshbut not sudo10:02
gnomefreakdid you happen to get the deb or are you getting it from sunjava.com?10:02
self_i asked before but i was off topic where are you all from?10:02
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self_<<<<off topic10:02
self_lmao10:02
pashawj2daosh,   huh?   didyou create a root account?10:02
alvarohey when i upgraded the software it says i had problems on my system10:02
j2daosh...i dont think so10:02
pashawself_,   #ubuntu-offtopic  for those questions10:02
alvaroE: /var/cache/apt/archives/d4x-common_2.5.6-2~breezy1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/d4x/ftpsearch.xml', which is also in package d4x10:02
j2daoshi used root to make this account like the 2 other ones10:02
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gnomefreakKnowerrors, ubuntu is using wrong java nd you want to make it use the new one?10:03
self_ok...sorry wellit is newyear10:03
j2daoshthe only thing that i can think might be messing it up is that the root and this account both share the same pw10:03
pashawj2daosh,   huh?  ubuntu doesnt have a root by default10:03
j2daoshroot as in like super user root?10:03
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self_ubuntu has a superuser thats you...but no rrot10:03
pashawj2daosh,   ubuntu uses  sudo for admin tasks10:03
gnomefreakpashaw, it doesnt but people make the su usable and it over write the sudo10:03
self_root even10:04
j2daoshbecause root is what i used to make my accounts... f1 screen... logged in as root and created accounts10:04
j2daoshreally gnome?10:04
ericmoritz\0has anyone here gotten musicbrainz to work with mp3s here?10:04
pashawgnomefreak,   thats what im asking him :P10:04
drquinHi I need help getting my audigy 2 to work...I get no sound10:04
self_gnome?10:04
j2daoshbecause on my other accounts i can su10:04
j2daoshand sudo10:04
eppj2daosh, did you type sudo su?10:04
eppbecause that would make you root.10:04
self_sudo gedit works ...but10:04
j2daoshis i do su i can do whatever i want without the pw but when i sudo i have to put the pw in everytime10:04
j2daoshno10:04
j2daoshjust su10:04
epphmmm...10:04
gnomefreaksudo -i makes you root too and safe :(10:04
pashawj2daosh,   you enabled the root account  then10:05
self_gnome?10:05
pashawj2daosh,  su wont work without it10:05
j2daoshlol well then i managed to do something i didn't know how to do then..10:05
self_sudo -i10:05
j2daoshcool10:05
j2daosh:)10:05
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eppi prefer sudo... because my friends dont know about it in ubuntu/10:05
j2daoshi prefer sudo if im not chmod 777 globally10:06
pashawj2daosh,   your problem now is   anything created with root   has be chmod'd for a normal user to use it10:06
j2daoshlol10:06
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pashawj2daosh,  so your doing double work  all day10:06
j2daoshi haven't created anything though10:06
j2daoshheres exactly what i did10:06
j2daoshi went to f110:06
j2daoshlogged in as root10:06
j2daoshdid adduser username10:07
j2daoshgave it a pw10:07
self_so theire is no way of just using a terminal change to get to be root?10:07
j2daoshloged in with the new account on the gui10:07
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pashawj2daosh,   stop making new lines for each comment plz :P10:07
j2daoshself no u have to log in as root on a different terminal to get root10:07
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self_the command is?10:08
self_sudo rrot10:08
self_root even10:08
self_dam key board10:08
pashawj2daosh,  yes your using root    root is used on servers where the admin wants to keep users off his/her stuff     with Ubuntu  root is rather pointless as everything is locally owned  unlikie a server setup10:08
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Knowerrorsgnomefreak: well Im not sure, its pointing to ns610 folder now, but I get "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" when I run Firefox10:08
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j2daoshsorry pashaw....brb10:08
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eppwhen i try to creat a project in eclipse... it freezes.10:09
self_oh quiet isnt it?10:09
self_lol10:09
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darkheartHello, which package would the X headers be in?10:09
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cocoxhi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??10:09
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gnomefreakKnowerrors,  im not sure what that error is but following the wiki didnt ever give me that error10:10
thegladiator!kaffeine10:10
ubotuthegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:10
thegladiatoris there some link to set up kaffeine ?10:10
Knowerrorsgnomefreak: maybe its unrelated to javaplug10:10
gnomefreakthegladiator, kaffeine is a kubuntu app not an ubuntu app10:10
thegladiatorah .10:11
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thegladiatorthanks shall check out in kubuntu10:11
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sambagirlhi i have a question, i wanting to get new google toolbar for translations for Mozilla. There is new Mozilla i see, do i need download from mozilla or i can do apt-get thing?10:11
gnomefreakKnowerrors,  if you get the .deb its much easier to install10:11
self_ok...so what does sudo root do..because it asked foer a password just after?10:11
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gnomefreaksambagirl, FF1.5 is not in ubuntu repos so apt-get will not work use this10:12
gnomefreakFF1.510:12
sambagirlahh opk10:12
sambagirlok10:12
sambagirlthank you10:12
sambagirlhappy holiday10:12
j2daoshok sorry about that pashaw had to help someone with their computer lol... go figure eh10:12
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gnomefreakbut no the new google bar has nothing to do with version of FF10:12
self_gnome what does sudo root command do?10:12
dbernar1!firefox1510:12
uboturumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org10:12
Knowerrorsgnomefreak: I have to use my own self buildt version of java... for another program10:12
j2daoshok where were we... ahh yes the i made the account with the root account and now this account cant sudo and can only su10:13
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gnomefreakKnowerrors, oh i see than sorry i dont know10:13
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pashawj2daosh,   for one stop using that root account  :P   bad habit  until you know all the risks10:13
dbernar1j2daosh: and?10:13
gnomefreakdbernar1,  Seveas changed it this am to know FF1.5 but i forgot the ! ty10:13
wizardjameshow do i get flac working for xmms (and wavpack)10:13
self_<<is sinking fast10:14
j2daoshi only used it to make the account... i dont use root other then for that10:14
self_:-(10:14
dbernar1wizardjames: mp4 and aac?10:14
dbernar1j2daosh: sudo adduser newUser admin10:15
wizardjames..flac..10:15
eppdoes anyone develop in kdevelop?10:15
dbernar1ok, well, then dont tell me.10:15
j2daoshi will just sudo which is just as bad lol. anyway though... it seems anything i try to use in the gui that requires a pw wont work10:15
wizardjamesxmms cant see my flac endcoded files10:15
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gnomefreakepp,  sometimes why?10:15
cocoxhi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??10:15
thegladiatorepp, many do ask in #kde10:15
thegladiatorepp, many do ask in #kdevelop i guess10:15
=== gnomefreak partial to anjuta tho :)
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j2daoshcrap... is it because i didn't add this account to the admin group? dont tell me it is something that simple...10:15
FlannelKinganyone else have problems using xchat and clicking on urls and nothing happening (have to right click, mozilla firefox, etc)10:16
pashawj2daosh,   sudo isnt just as bad  only your current command runs  then it stops    so if you cat jumps on the keyboard and hits rm -R    you wont erase everything10:16
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Storkhi, how can i write dvd data under ubuntu?10:16
dbernar1j2daosh: yes, it is that.10:16
gnomefreakFlannelKing,  are you pressing ctrl down when clicking the link?10:16
Storkto a dvd w or dvd rw10:16
dbernar1wizardjames: whenever you fel like telling me whether flac is mp4/aac I will tell you what I know about that.10:16
FlannelKingno, is that the key?10:16
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j2daoshu got a point there pashaw.. but my cat is 27 pounds and has to walk down the stairs leaning against the wall... there is no way in hell itcould jump up on the computer lol10:16
crodHi there10:17
eppgnomefreak, when i try to compile in java it gives me tan error.10:17
jhennhow do you get scalable svg icons in gnome?10:17
gnomefreakFlannelKing, yes it is10:17
pashaw!tell j2daosh about samba10:17
FlannelKingAh, how handy.10:17
gnomefreakepp,  a gjc error?10:17
j2daoshok... how do i add myself to the admin group?10:17
epplemme check10:17
crodI think I have been infected with spyware... what's the best spyware detector for ubuntu???10:17
j2daoshsudo group josh admin?10:17
dbernar1j2daosh: I gave you command.10:17
cvt|nixmasis ubuntu already set up for wireless internet?10:17
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gnomefreakj2daosh, system adduser10:17
self_any ways ill catch you all laters...10:17
eppgnomefreak, i will paste on paste bin.10:17
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dbernar1sudo adduser josh admin10:17
chriswoodallhow do you install this on a external dribe10:18
gnomefreakcvt|nixmas, define set up there are some wifi cards that are auto detected10:18
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Stew_Lappycvt|nixmas worked fine on my dell10:18
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j2daoshbut will that create a whole nother account or is that just an arguement to get to the change group?10:18
wizardjamesdbernar1,  i dont know what flac is,   its a lossless format..    not mp4 or aac ..10:18
self_gnome..one question?10:18
gnomefreakcvt|nixmas, list of hardware can be found at10:18
croddoes any one have experience a VERY slow upload to gmail.... spyware???10:18
gnomefreak!hardware10:18
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ubotuhardware is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport10:18
gnomefreakself_, ask10:18
wizardjames!flac10:18
ubotuwizardjames: Not a clue10:18
dbernar1wizardjames: OK, then, I do not know yet, I will take a look.10:18
alvarohey guys I'm trying to install gcursor but i get an error in the terminal it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:18
alvaro  d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed10:18
wizardjamesok10:18
self_what does new year mean to you?10:19
eppgnomefreak, here is the error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/642610:19
Stew_Lappymeans i have to remember to put 06 and not 0510:19
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Storkhi, how can i write dvd data under ubuntu? to a dvd rw or dvd r..10:19
gnomefreakit means 2005 is over and 2006 is starting10:19
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crodhow to find antispyware software for ubuntu???10:19
naliothStork: use gnomebake, gravemand or (my fave) k3b10:20
self_ah not a sentimental type then10:20
self_lmao10:20
gnomefreakcrod,  synaptic but wont need any10:20
self_any ways nice one laters10:20
BxLcrod, i don't think there are any spyware on ubuntu10:20
naliothcrod: you don't need any antispyware for yourself10:20
self_;_)10:20
sampanlinux has spyware??? ;x10:20
j2daoshhey pashaw... can i paste a 4 line erro in here without catching crap?10:20
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Stew_Lappycant imagine there is spyware on linux10:20
j2daoshpastebin seems like a waste of space10:20
thegladiatorStew_Lappy, there is ?10:20
crodgnomefreak, but there is something going on with my gmail... It doesn't upload10:21
gnomefreakj2daosh,  use pastebin10:21
gnomefreak!pastebin10:21
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:21
Stew_Lappylike I said - I can't imagine10:21
thegladiatorare there spywares in linux ?  i havent had any so far . are there are spyware blasters ?10:21
gnomefreakcrod, maybe a gmail server error?10:21
theCorehow do I configure Apache to execute PSP (Python Server Page) page with mod_python?10:21
eppgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/642610:21
naliothcrod: that is gmail, not you. it happens on occastion when google is updating it10:21
j2daoshi cant even open a browser window from the rightlick menu10:21
crodno... it works fine from my office10:21
j2daoshthat sucks10:21
dbernar1wizardjames: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/, ctrl+f, "flac"10:21
gnomefreakepp its saying you dont have tools.jar installed10:21
thegladiator!spy10:22
ubotuthegladiator: I give up, what is it?10:22
thegladiator!spyware10:22
ubotuWish i knew, thegladiator10:22
thegladiator!virus10:22
ubotuthegladiator: Not a clue10:22
thegladiator!antivirus10:22
ubotuthegladiator: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:22
gnomefreak!you10:22
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.10:22
nalioththegladiator: !please !don't !fish10:22
eppgnomefreak, I installed the sun SDK1.5... but i installed alot of other crap to...10:22
Storknalioth, where can i get gnomebake?10:22
gnomefreakread ubotus output10:22
eppso it may be conflicting?10:22
thegladiatorwhoops just thought i wud hit something :d10:22
j2daoshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/642710:22
naliothubotu: tell thegladiator about factoids10:22
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Stew_Lappyhell the great thing about nix is the lack of crap like spyware and viruses10:23
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j2daoshis that what you were talking about eariler pashaw?10:23
naliothStork: use synaptic (make sure you have universe and multiverse repos enabled)10:23
gnomefreakepp maybe i dont write in java yet but class starts on the 28th of jan :)10:23
naliothubotu: tell Stork about repos10:23
Storkit's not on synaptic10:23
HobartStew_Lappy -> Absolutely!  The Slapper Worm and Morris Worm never happened!10:23
Hobart;)10:23
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pashawj2daosh,   you dont use sudo and root   its  one or the other10:23
Storknalioth, ok, nevermind, found it10:23
Vexorhello10:23
gnomefreakhi Vexor10:24
NCLifehi, i dont know why, i cant see videos with vlc player nore totem.. all i get is a blue screen10:24
Vexorhey gnomefreak10:24
pashawj2daosh,   re-login as your first normal user10:24
j2daoshi know... but im not a root account... i didn't even add this account to admin until the dbernar1 guy told me about it10:24
crodwhere's obotu??? I can't see it10:24
NCLifei could see videos perfectly yesterday10:24
pashawj2daosh, type   groups10:24
j2daoshok10:24
pashawj2daosh,   do you see admin listed10:25
gnomefreakNCLife,  have you done updates since than and if so what updates if i may ask10:25
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j2daoshnope10:25
crodgnomefreak, how do I see obotu ???10:25
viatorhello folks10:25
cocoxhi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??10:25
pashawj2daosh,   is this the account you created  when you logged in as root10:25
viatorid like to make an iso from some files in a directory10:25
j2daoshoh wait u mean the other account10:25
j2daoshok10:25
viatorusing DD10:25
viatorim not sure what the syntax would be10:25
gnomefreakubotu tell crod  about factoids10:26
j2daoshno... logged into root str8 after startup and created this account10:26
viatorcasue everytime i try it says it cant cause its a directory10:26
crodthanks gnomefreak10:26
gnomefreakcrod, yw10:26
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pashawj2daosh,  so yes you created this account while using root10:26
NCLifegnomefreak, no i dont have made any updates, all ive been trying to do is eject my ipod properly10:26
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j2daoshyes10:27
pashawj2daosh,   now you have to use root or your FIRST account to fix the new one  see the trouble root started10:27
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viator dd if=/home/office1/Desktop/thedirectoryname of=/mynewiso.iso10:27
viatorthats what i tried10:27
gnomefreakhmmmm NCLife  im not sure than i thought maybe an update interferred with it dont feel bad im in nc and still cant use linux to watch movies maybe its the state?10:27
gnomefreaklol10:27
j2daoshlol pashaw... but root is supposed to be my friend... it stabbed me in the back!! no water for root now10:27
viatorcause i need all the files in the directory in the iso10:28
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naliothj2daosh: root is disabled by designe in ubuntu.10:28
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chriswoodallare theirr any ppc distros that will easily install to (and boot from) a external usb drive10:28
gnomefreakbtw looks like they fixed the locales bug in dapper :)10:28
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pashawj2daosh,  i dont know any working admins that use root login    we all use su anyway   its my job if i screwup with it10:29
j2daoshim not sure how i got root up and running then.... i dont recall enabling it... or even where to find it if i wanted to10:29
naliothchriswoodall: none yet. it's a deficiency in yaboot10:29
chriswoodallahh ok10:29
j2daoshwell isn't su the root anyway?10:29
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pashawj2daosh,  yes  but you can type exit  to remove it at anytime  if i get called away or the phone rings10:30
richardtallentI want to install Ubuntu on an old laptop, but it has no CD drive and no USB boot support. Any ideas?10:30
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j2daoshahh...10:30
gnomefreakj2daosh, su is disabled in ubuntu (should be)10:30
NCLifegnomefreak lol, maybe.. i hope not though10:30
pashawj2daosh,  but my session   while remain10:30
chriswoodallnetwork install?10:30
Edganpashaw: That is what auto logouts are for, but even then an interactive program will still get you, like top10:30
j2daoshwell then why are all the computers here at work logged in as root?10:30
j2daoshlol10:30
gnomefreakubotu tell richardtallent about install10:30
richardtallentNetwork adapter is USB10:30
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chriswoodallnvm10:30
zsoficiHello everybody10:30
j2daoshthere is like 15 unix boxes here and they are all logged in as root on the f1 screen...10:31
zsoficiCan I find a 3d world map for ubuntu10:31
j2daoshoh well... the admin that is here is going back to being a programmer anyway10:31
j2daoshlol10:31
EdganI login to servers as root, especially on the console. I also use su alot, but I don't like sudo.10:31
richardtallentI have the laptop HD in a USB enclosure on my right now on my desktop (WinXP Pro) and I have both a burned live CD and an install ISO ready to go.10:31
zsoficisomething like 3d world map by longgame10:31
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dbernar1!offtopic10:31
ubotuofftopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!10:31
zsoficiplease help me10:31
VexorI am having trouble removing module declerations form modules.dep.  The particular ones I want removed are included from the 3rd party kernel modules package.  How can I include or remove modules from this package I need?  How are these automatically inserted into this reprository?10:32
pashawj2daosh,   he would get fired anywhere iver worked10:32
pashawj2daosh,  ok back to your original problem   samba10:32
sethkrichardtallent, it is possible to install from floppies10:32
j2daoshyes samba10:32
VexorThis has to be asked frequently, sorry for this repeat10:32
gnomefreakbeing logged in as sudo -i and or su is very dangerous and should not be normal practices10:32
pashawj2daosh,   type  groups     do you see admin listed10:33
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j2daoshill have to wait till i get home to check... im at work right now sshed to my home box10:33
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j2daoshi dont think that hitting f1 will work with freenx10:33
linuzo_how do you install java 1.5 on ubuntu?10:33
Edgangnomefreak: sudo command (password) sucks, and /etc/sudoers configuration just makes things worse than su10:33
richardtallentWhere can I get floppy boot images? Also,  can I put the install CD on the HD in a way that the setup program can use it one it has booted far enough to install?10:33
pashawj2daosh, who are you talking to?10:33
ardchoillenalioth: ping10:33
j2daoshu10:34
pashawj2daosh,  your SSH'd into a remote box using the root account?10:34
j2daoshi would just log in as my other account but it seems everytime i log out i have a problem getting back in10:34
gnomefreakEdgan, that is personal prefference all im saying is that being logged in as root or with sudo -i is unsafe10:34
gnomefreakfor long periods of time10:34
j2daoshno no no... hell no... lol im using the account that cant seem to get root previes10:34
pashawj2daosh,   SSH should always block root logging in    in any remote setup10:35
zsoficia 3d world map for linux,like google earth10:35
zsoficiidea?10:35
pashawj2daosh,    good practice anyway10:35
FlannelKingj2daosh, youre probably not in the sudoers10:35
sethkEdgan, A properly configured sudoers makes things better, not worse.10:35
j2daoshi dont know how to do that...10:35
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j2daoshno im not in the sudoers... ::shrugs:: i think10:35
pashawj2daosh,  follow my lead here    type groups    admin not listed right?10:35
j2daoshthats what the error said anyway10:36
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j2daoshnope10:36
j2daoshbut im on the account that is messed up remember10:36
pashawj2 youll have to use su roots pasword10:36
Edgansethk: I have yet to see a good convenient way to use sudo that doesn't make it just like su10:36
j2daoshso get into su then?10:36
sethkEdgan, that's simply untrue.  Restricting the applications available to non-root users is definitely of benefit10:36
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braskoIs there any reason to use sudo on a machine that only a single user operates on?10:37
jmw70Can Someone tell me where to look for printer drivers?10:37
pashawj2daosh,    omg     wait      your remote  like  not home?   and trying to setup samba  that makes no sense10:37
FlannelKingyes brasko, security.10:37
gnomefreakbrasko,  yes10:37
cyphase!war10:37
ubotucyphase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:37
cyphasehmm10:37
cyphaselol10:37
Edgansethk: Well if you are talking sudo with helpers in a graphical environment yeah, but I generally don't admin in a graphical environment.10:37
gnomefreaklol cyphase10:37
gnomefreak!flame10:37
ubotugnomefreak: What?10:37
j2daoshlol yeah...10:37
pashawj2daosh,   if you need to pull a file from home  use scp10:37
cyphase!troll10:38
ubotucyphase: I don't know, could you explain it?10:38
sethkEdgan, I have no need for a graphical environment10:38
cyphase!fight10:38
ubotucyphase: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:38
cyphasenvm10:38
eppmy computer is looking for java here /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0 but its really in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun. what should i do to fix it?10:38
j2daoshno i dont need any specific file right now i just figured since i had a minute i would set it up and save myself some time at home... i dont quite understand the whole samba thing even though you would think i would because i had it working on my knoppix ...10:38
pashawj2daosh,   using samba like your hoping   would normally be setup  with VPN first to log into the home network then use samba10:38
gnomefreakepp,  sudo update-alternatives --config java10:39
eppthx gnome10:39
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gnomefreakthan choose the 1.5 one epp and it should look for 1.510:39
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gnomefreakepp yw10:39
eppgnomefreak! thank you soo much!10:39
pashawj2daosh,  your going to drive me to drinking10:39
gnomefreak:)10:39
epppashaw, and hes an alcoholic, haha jk10:40
j2daoshhaha im sorry pashaw... thats not what i want... cuz if your drunk how you gonna answer all my dumb questions lol10:40
gnomefreakepp,  java --version will output the version ubuntu is using10:40
eppgnomefreak, yeah... it works now10:40
richardtallentI have another laptop with a CD drive, I can put the old laptop drive in it, boot to the Ubuntu install CD, but what action would I take from that point so the resulting installation could then be booted on the old laptop? I'm assuming the install CD does all sorts of device detection, etc., and the laptops are *very* different (old Dell, new Toshiba).10:40
pashawj2daosh,   samba is easy to setup but  with you miles away  we cant test it very well  til you get home10:40
zsoficignomefreak: can you help me please10:40
j2daoshahh... yesh that might be alittle of an issue10:41
gnomefreakzsofici, if you ask the room for help you might get better help but no noone can help you without knowing of any issue10:41
MasterWammyanyone have a good tutorial/info about compiling a kernel10:41
eppgnomefreak, is there a package that has all the c++ libraries i would ever need?10:41
braskoI'm asking, if I'm the only user of a machine, and I have root password, and a normal account, would you expect me to still use sudo?10:41
MasterWammyi compiled my own last night but it wont boot, lol10:41
j2daoshok what if i have folders shared out on the windows box... would i be able to access them once i get samba set up on here?10:41
Mabus06How do I get my keyboard back to american10:41
zsoficignomefreak: I need something like GOOGLE EARTH FOR UBUNTU10:42
j2daoshor am i gonna have to rdp to the win box from her?10:42
gnomefreakepp, they should come with the ide maybe a few more in synaptic10:42
pashawj2daosh,  no   networks not connected  and ssh doesnt work that way10:42
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naliothzsofici: there is not google earth for ubuntu10:42
chalcedonyError Scanning folders in IMAP server10:42
pashawj2daosh,  youd need to VPN the networks to use samba10:42
eppi dunno... it needs all these winsock libs and stuff...10:42
gnomefreakzsofici, you dont need to yell10:42
sethkrichardtallent, you would probably be able to boot, but of course the network and other settings wouldn't be right10:42
chalcedonydoes anyone know Evolution mail on ubuntu?10:42
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eppzsofici, tried wine emulation?10:42
gnomefreakand no im not sure of a map program for ubuntu other than a map of the stars10:43
j2daoshreally? i cant just simple file share the suckers like with xp? i have to set up a vpn on both ends... do the wins thing and all that?10:43
gnomefreaki know evolution is too close to outlook for me10:43
pashawj2daosh,   from home and work   youd need a secure link  like VPN to join the networks  to use smb10:43
sethkj2daosh, with samba you'll be able to access exactly what you could access with a windows box10:44
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gnomefreak!wine10:44
j2daoshor with an rdp connection?10:44
chalcedonygnomefreak: ty10:44
pashawsethk,   no any clever ways of using smb over the net between his home and work10:44
sethkj2daosh, if you don't need a vpn to use windows, you won't need it with linux either10:44
chalcedonymy husband was using thunderbird.. i don't know what's up with Evolution, yet.10:44
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richardtallentsethk: network settings being wrong is ok, but how do I force it to go back through the setup process? Comfy with command line once I get there.10:44
sethkpashaw, he was saying that he can't do it simply as with windows.  I'm pointing out that if he can do it simply with windows, he can do the same thing with samba10:45
eppgnomefreak... but kdevelop wont find the new set path of javasdk? it still looks in the original.10:45
j2daoshno i dont need a vpn... i normally just set the rdp before i come to work...10:45
gnomefreakchalcedony, thunderbird breaks less than evolution10:45
pashawsethk,   yeah just wanted to be sure you knew what he was asking to do  :)10:45
j2daoshbut then i got the ssh working on my linux box and wanted to use it because it doesn't use as much bandwidth and i hear it is more secure10:45
Storkwhat the hell10:45
sethkrichardtallent, I'd have to check but it is definitely possible.  You may have to issue separate commands to configurre each thing (the network, the sound, etc.)10:45
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RickerHey everyone.  I know this is probably a loaded question that gets asked probably too many times.  But I would like some first-hand reasons as to why you personally like Ubuntu better than the other distros... any input?10:45
pashawj2daosh,   yeah you rdp into your xp box  right10:45
gnomefreakepp, im not sure write now im in dapper i dont have kde installed in dapper only breezy10:45
Storkgnomebaker can't formwar my dvd+rw10:45
j2daoshyep10:46
epphmm.10:46
pashawj2daosh, in that case you can use VNC to linux by default or   install terminal server and use rdp to linux10:46
naliothStork: use k3b10:46
eppanyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?10:46
Mabus06How do I get my keyboard back to american10:46
gnomefreakRicker,  you need to find one you like and o with that one ive tried over 10 distros before i went back to ubuntu10:46
Storknalioth, it's for KDE isn't it?10:46
naliothepp: have you been to the kdevelop forums? or asked in #kubuntu ?10:46
chalcedonygnomefreak: can you think of ANY advantages to Evolution over Thunderbird?10:46
j2daoshbut will i be able to set up a permenant share on both my linux and xp boxes?10:46
naliothStork: it will run just fine for you10:47
gnomefreakStork, can be ran in gnome10:47
j2daoshi plan on doing quite a bit of backups to my linux box once i smack the 350 gig harddrive in it10:47
Rickergnomefreak: wow. What made you decide ubuntu was more to your liking and therefore made you go back to it?10:47
gnomefreakchalcedony, no i cant but maybe someone else in here could i just perfer anything but evolution sorry10:47
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mike-eMPD system service not installed10:47
mike-eupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mpd exists during rc.d purge (continuing)10:47
mike-ehow do i get mpd to install as a service10:47
pashawj2daosh,   those are remote control protocols  you ned to join the domians to use smb       but you could alsways scp files off the linux box10:47
j2daoshif i was just moving one or 2 files rdp would be fine...10:47
chalcedonygnomefreak: ty i use MUTT ;)10:47
gnomefreakRicker,  yes after playing with slackware suse gentoo FC1-4 and so on10:48
j2daoshjoin the domains you say..... and to do that i have to setup the vpn between them eh?10:48
pashawj2daosh,   now you got it10:48
j2daoshand i dont wanna just use ssh because?10:48
j2daoshwell nevermind10:48
pashawj2daosh,  how will you ssh files off the windows box?10:49
sethkj2daosh, I don't think anyone said not to use ssh10:49
j2daoshssh wont do that kind of connection and i would have to constantly load cygwin on the windows box to do it10:49
sethkpashaw, I ssh files from my windows boxes every day10:49
chalcedonyok i think what my husband is telling me is that he is trying to write to me and his Ubuntu is giving him all thes other mail clients. He doesn't know why ..10:49
pashawj2daosh,  there are programs you could use i guess i always use VPNs tho10:49
rikaianyone know waht ports have to be forwarded for gnomemeeting/netmeeting to work?10:49
pashawsethk,   im a slow typer   read my post  :P10:49
sethkpashaw, install the cygwin toolkit in windows.  gives you both an ssh client and server10:49
gnomefreaksince theres no ssh for windows i would say very hard but hell i dont have a clue10:49
mike-ehow do i find out what mixer i'm using10:49
Rickergnomefreak:  but why did you go back to ubuntu?  I have fedora core, suse, mandriva and ubuntu installed.  mostly messing around in ubuntu but I don't get why one is more comfortable for a user than another... probably because linux is so new to me.  any specifics on what makes ubuntu a good fit for you?10:49
j2daoshwell vpns make sense because they will always be connected and i wont have to have constantly load a program to do it10:49
mike-eyes except it always starts at number one10:50
mike-ehow do i find out what mixer i'm using10:50
pashawsethk,   thx i know  but  thats not my preferred way   thx tho10:50
sethkpashaw, that's ok, but the point is it is not only possible but quite easy10:50
gnomefreakRicker, ubuntu is released every 6 months for starters10:50
pashawsethk,   perhaps you could help j2daosh  with this then10:50
Rickergnomefreak: ok I like that... any thing other reasons of the top of your head?10:51
gnomefreakso its pretty much always newest packages and i love using sudo instead of su10:51
j2daoshwell connected as long as the computer is on... but as far as security goes with that... wouldn't it be more secure to set up a reverse ssh tunnel instead of a vpn? im not familiar too much with vpn so i dont know the security strengths associated with it10:51
sethkgnomefreak, sudo is available on all flavors of linux and UNIX10:51
gnomefreakRicker, people in #ubuntu are alot more helpful than #anywhere else10:51
mike-ehow do i find out what mixer i'm using10:51
gnomefreaksethk,  i know10:51
gnomefreaki just added that in10:51
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sethkgnomefreak, then it is not a reason to use (or not use) ubuntu10:52
pashawj2daosh,   reverse tunnels are a way or sneaking past a firewall   VPNs are the preferred way to link networks10:52
Polly_MorfI have an error in kdevelop (yes i know i should have used #kubuntu, but its dead). "Terminal cant open any PTY. Probably they're misconfigured. Must have RW access". How do I set RW access?10:52
gnomefreakalsa mostr likely mike-e10:52
Rickergnomefreak:  that I'm finding to be very true.  Tons of people in the linux world that I've come across that can be quite arrogant..but this #ubuntu channel is very cool and friendly10:52
j2daoshok... well then vpn it is... now how do i do that pashaw?10:52
MoonRangerwhats the command to install XFCE10:52
j2daoshj/p... i think i can manage that one lol10:52
Polly_Morfapt-get install xfce?10:52
pashawj2daosh,   but im talking company/business methods  with  personal stuff you can use just about anything10:52
MoonRangercool thanks10:52
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop10:52
sethkPolly_Morf, I doubt that the error is really caused by that10:53
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richardtallentsethk: thanks, about to boot the install image on the newer laptop, will check back after installation is complete. Don't care much about sound, just need to activate PCMCIA wireless adapter (or USB NIC) and display driver on the old laptop. Goal is just to get something that has FF 1.5, OO 2.0, and GAIM, anything else is gravy.10:53
Polly_Morfsethk: It sounds a bit hinky, doesnt it? :P10:53
j2daoshbesides... i dont want to drive you to drinking... cuz then when i forget about not messing with root and chmod another /usr directory i will need you around to scold me :)10:53
Rickergnomefreak: what is SU? is that where you login as root on the other distros? or is it something else?  I know that sudo is "super-user do" but don't know su10:53
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sethkPolly_Morf, it's easy enough to check, just do sudo kdevelop, see if it goes away10:53
pashawj2daosh,   thats right you did that  huh10:53
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j2daoshyeah that was me... but sssshhh... no one else knows about that10:54
sethkRicker, sudo is not super user do.   it is "set user and do"10:54
sethkRicker, the user is root by default, which is the same as for su, set user10:54
sethkRicker, you can su or sudo to any user10:54
Rickersethk: oops. cool.  thanks for correction10:54
gnomefreaksu=super user its root in most distros by default in ubuntu sudo is default10:54
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jhennhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool <-- i can't log into this10:54
Polly_Morfsethk. Just figured that out by myself...10:54
sethkRicker, sudo is a way to give users root access to some, but not all, resources10:54
mrtanookii've always disliked the su being either superuser or switch user10:54
sethkRicker, and programs.10:54
Polly_Morfsethk: works fine in root10:54
RickerI see10:54
sethkRicker, it is available in all varieties of linux and UNIX10:54
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sethkPolly_Morf, hmm, maybe the message is smarter than I thought.  :)10:55
sethkPolly_Morf, the thing is, installing kubuntu is not going to change the privileges for the ptty's10:55
pashawj2daosh,  i recommen you learn about samba first   practice at home,   then SSH/SCP to and from work(would be fun)  then worry about VPN  thats alot to learn10:55
mike-eexit10:55
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j2daoshok... well i think i have gained quite a bit of valuable knowledge... thank you again for your time pashaw and everyone else that helped me. dont go too far though because when i get home in 3 hours im getting back online and im sure i will have more questions10:55
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gnomefreakjhenn,  what does it say?10:56
sethkRicker, the only thing different about ubuntu is that with the default, but _not_ expert, install procedure, the root password is not set and you have to set it separately if you want to log in as root10:56
j2daoshwell i thought you said i needed to do vpn in order to setup samba with max sexurity?10:56
jhenngnomefreak: wrong password and username10:56
sethkRicker, the difference between logging in as root and doing su is just whether or not you are already logged in.10:56
jhenngnomefreak: i just setup an account though10:56
kbrookslol10:56
Polly_Morfsethk: Made a "reset" of kdevelop... removed all the configuration files :P10:56
pashawj2daosh,   yes thats your long term goal     right now  lets stick to the simple stuff10:56
sethkRicker, the reason for having that is that on many machines root is disabled as a _remote_ login for security reason.10:56
Polly_Morfalways works10:56
Polly_Morf!10:56
ubotuPolly_Morf: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:56
gnomefreakjhenn, check the email you used yet?10:56
sethkRicker, so, if root cannot log in remotely, then sudo or su is the only way to get to be root10:56
j2daoshok... ill do that then :) thank you for your help again pashaw10:56
Polly_Morfubotu: huh?10:57
ubotu!find test10:57
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Rickersethk: are you pretty experienced with the CLI/bash?10:57
pashawkbrooks,   i was here when they called you a cow10:57
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sethkRicker, yes, although I prefer zsh to bash, but that's a detail10:58
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jhenngnomefreak: oh use your email to login... i was using username10:58
Rickersethk:  I want to do a server only install so that I can learn more of what's under the hood with linux, and I don't like how slow things get with the GUI's loaded....  have you ever done a server only install? and is it tough to get things like apache, samba, etc. installed.  I've never used an email client from a CLI and haven't the slightest clue about that either.10:59
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sethkRicker, I've done the server install several times.  The install itself, of course, is perfectly trivial11:00
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sethkRicker, I've never configured apache except CLI, so I can't say whether it's hardware than a gui configure, but it is certainly manageable11:00
Rickersethk: I gathered that as I actually did it once by mistake when I was first loading distros...but I never did anything after that as I reformatted and did a install with a gui11:01
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odatanyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu11:01
odat?11:01
sethkRicker, as for email, I used the standard unix mail CLI mail client for years.  It's perfectly easy, although of course it isn't going to integrate graphics and such11:01
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jhenngnomefreak: okay i logged in with email but now its taking me to user preferences and i fill out everything and it is saying "passwords don't match" at the top.11:01
Dashivahey anybody know how to change the browser gaim calls when you open new mail from it11:01
sethkRicker, in most cases the default configuration for apache is quite close to what you need, and all you need to do is tweak a few things in the configuration files.11:01
Rickersethk: so do you use GUI's such as gnome/kde very much?11:01
gnomefreakjhenn, im not sure i dont use that11:01
sethkRicker, sure, I use them when it makes sense11:02
Rickersethk: such as when?11:02
SepheebearDashiva: that's in the preferred applications capplet11:02
sethkRicker, I like multi-windows editing while I'm writing programs11:02
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sethkRicker, I like to run the program I'm writing in a window and have the source code for it in other windows11:02
Dashivathx11:02
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sethkRicker, GUIs are great things, where you need a user interface.  A server, of course, has a different purpose entirely11:02
Rickersethk: cool.  what do your develop in? java?11:02
jhenngnomefreak: its been a pain so far so consider yourself lucky11:03
twystedricker this isnt RHEL we dont need a gui to bog down the server ;)11:03
odatanyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu11:03
sethkRicker, the thing to remember is, that with UNIX & Co., you can do everything with a slave GUI that you can do with a GUI on the same box.11:03
gnomefreaklol jhenn11:03
jhenngnomefreak: its sad because i had some good recommendations to improve ubuntu11:03
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sethkRicker, At the moment I'm porting an operating system so I'm doing c and c++.  I've done java, although I'm not terribly fond of it.11:03
nilsL my cd-drive is not working to play audio-cd's in xubuntu. any11:03
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nilsL               clues?11:03
Sepheebearwhat's american army?11:03
FlannelKingIts a game11:04
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Rickersethk: wow. fun stuff.  now, what did you mean by a slave gui? you lost me there11:04
SturgeonAn institution devoted to saving the world from the oppression of the evil11:04
gnomefreakjava=slow and heavy but yet i start classes for java in jan :(11:04
wizardjameshow do i get xmms to read flac music?11:04
SturgeonOr so they say?11:04
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wizardjamesi tryed xmms-flac  but it doesnt seam to to work11:04
Sepheebearoh, in that case it's just an app. rightclick on the desktop and create a launcher for it11:04
IRCMonkeyhey, i'm downloading ubuntu..11:04
gnomefreakcongrats11:05
sethkRicker, I have two servers running here, one doing primarily email and the other acting as a web server.  Then I have my own machine.  I can set the DISPLAY variable on the web server, run the GUI confguration program, and send the display to my machine.  Not having the GUI on the web server does _not_ mean I can't use GUI configuration programs.11:05
IRCMonkeyyeah.. and the file is really large 600 mb, and it's an .iso when it's done downloading what do i do next?11:05
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sethkRicker, X windows uses a proper client/server architecture, removing the link between the location of the program and the location of the display11:05
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gnomefreakIRCMonkey, burn it to cd11:05
odatanyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu11:05
sethkRicker, unlike a certain other windowing system we all know about  :)11:06
Rickersethk: man so many options with unix11:06
FlannelKingIRCMonkey, burn the ISO (which means extracting it, in the burner program)11:06
sethkRicker, indeed.  More power, and with it more complexity.11:06
Sepheebearodat rightclick on the desktop and create a launcher for it11:06
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odatSepheebear, i can't figure out what the command to launch it sis11:07
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Rickersethk: yes I'm definately seeing that as well. but it's making computers fun again.  I used to love dinking around in Dos.  of course the CLI in linux is much more powerful than dos is to put it lightly11:07
IRCMonkeyi hope i am to 5.10? i got it from here http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/11:07
gnomefreakodat, whatever the command to run it in terminal is11:07
Sepheebearodat: where does american army install to?11:07
gnomefreaknormally name of program11:07
sethkRicker, true.  The first thing I do with a windows box is install cygwin, which gives me the bash and zsh shells, among other great stuff.11:07
gnomefreakok good IRCMonkey11:07
sethkRicker, it's much better than the usual windows shell, but still not like being in unix11:08
gnomefreak6.04 is so not ready yet11:08
MarcNman, a bunch of dapper updates this evening!11:08
odatarmyop directory in the home folder11:08
IRCMonkeyafter i burn it to a cd, it will be easy to install?11:08
RickersethK: hmm cygwin, never heard of that one (not surprised as there is SO much about linux) I'll have to look that up.11:08
gnomefreakMarcN, it will be like that untill april11:08
sethkRicker, cygwin is basically UNIX utilities that run in DOS (win32, to be correct)11:08
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IRCMonkeydo i need an extra hard drive to use? or can i use it with windows?11:09
gnomefreakIRCMonkey, put cd in cd rom and boot from cdrom in bios11:09
MarcNgnomefreak: yeah, I've  been riding the bleeding edge for years.11:09
Sepheebearodat: there should be a README file in that armyop folder11:09
sethkRicker, they are of course related to linux, because with cygwin, you have the same set of utilities for both operating systems.11:09
IRCMonkeyok11:09
gnomefreaklol MarcN isnt it funnnnnnnnnnnnnn11:09
odatSepheebear, read it said nothing about launching it11:09
gnomefreakbreezy was stable as of colony 3 i loved it11:10
MarcNgnomefreak: I'm linux user #6436.  Been around the block ;-)11:10
Sepheebearodat: how bout an INSTALL file?11:10
gnomefreaki found it to be stable than11:10
Rickersethk: I see.  have you ever tried netbsd/freebsd.  before anyone gets on the warwagon.  I don't want to start one.  I was just curious if anyone here had used it and if what their feeling is.  people take os's and programming language like religions....11:10
IRCMonkeyi have amd xp (emachines) and i downloaded PC (Intel x86) install CD will it run on it?11:10
sethkRicker, the feel is very similar whether I'm in linux, freebsd, netbsd, or even solaris11:10
cvt|nixmasknow how to play embedded quicktime files?11:10
sethkRicker, especially at CLI, it is nearly identical11:11
gnomefreakIRCMonkey, should11:11
sethkRicker, you can be on freebsd, or on linux, and experience the identical user interface, both CLI and graphical.11:11
odatSepheebear, i'll figure it out11:11
IRCMonkeycool.. btw should i burn on a CD-RW, or CD-W, or possibly DVD?11:11
sethkRicker, that's largely because xwindows is a separate user interface layer that runs on all the environments I care about.11:11
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SepheebearOMG Ricker how dare you say the BSD word, this is a linux chat, we dont allow that kind of stuff around here, lol11:11
gnomefreakcd r11:11
IRCMonkeyk11:11
sethkRicker, by the way, cygwin includes an X server for windows, so that trick I told you about (sending the display to another machine) will even work in windows.11:12
Rickersethk: a friend of mine claims the only way to go is bsd.  I can't figure out why because as you said they are so similar.  he makes comments that the linux world is too messed up or something and that that's why he likes bsd...but I don't get his specifics11:12
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gnomefreakcd r=not rewriteable cd rw = erase adn rewrite11:12
Dashivai like bsd...but it tends to be more time consuming11:12
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Dashivafor a desktop machine you want linux11:12
gnomefreakdvd too big unless you have the dvd iso and still wouldnt need it11:12
sethkRicker, there are some limited cases where I do prefer BSD - in firewalls, for example. For my desktop and most of my servers I use linux.11:12
IRCMonkeyso cd-r would be safer to use..11:12
gnomefreakIRCMonkey,  yes11:13
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sethkRicker, but I agree, last time I checked "messed up" is not a well defined term.  :)11:13
Sepheebeari love the kernel and startup configuration in BSD flatfiles rule11:13
Rickersethk: cygwin-- wow that's really cool.  so a gui doesn't have to be running on the linux server for me to use a gui that connects to the server from a windows box?11:13
sethkRicker, precisely.11:13
Rickersepheebear:  ;-)  I know, naughty word11:13
sethkRicker, there are a couple of non-free X servers for windows that are easier to set up (xwin32 is one)11:13
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SepheebearRicker: lol11:13
sethkRicker, but once you've figured out how to set it up, the cygwin server works well.11:14
j2daoshok im back... with the right privies this time lol... turns out i couldn't do anything... none of the options for this account were turned on in the system>admin>users and groups thing...11:14
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michael_what do i install to change from gnome to kde11:14
Rickerexcellent info again everyone.  thanks much!!!11:14
sethkRicker, I'm always suspicious of dogma.  Plus if anyone says "linux is better than bsd" or "bsd is better than linux" I immediately say, "to do what?"11:14
j2daoshbut now i have another quetion... what a shock huh... how do i turn stuff off from starting up when the comp logs in? is there like a startup folder or something like with windows?11:14
wizardjameshow do i get temp senseor working so i can see what temp my computer is running at?11:15
sethkj2daosh, that's a two part answer.  One, there is desktop restoration.  this runs whatever was running the last time you shut down.11:15
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sethkj2daosh, then there are . files in your home directory you can use to start apps when X runs, but by default they are empty.11:15
Rickersethk:  right.  I have been a programmer in the windoze world since 1990.  and i am SO sick of wars over languages/os's, etc.  It's like comparing computer peni$'s or something11:15
j2daoshno sethk i didn't click the save button before loggin out11:15
michael_does ne1 know what i need to mark to change from gnome to kde?11:15
j2daoshhome directory eh.... lemme look11:16
sethkj2daosh, doesn't necessarily matter, depends on how the desktop is configured.  You don't have to explicitly save11:16
sethkmichael_, if both are installed, click on session at the login screen and choose kde11:16
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michael_how can i install both?11:16
sethkRicker, I like to know a variety of languages.  How else can I know which is going to be best for a given problem?11:16
michael_idk which things to mark11:16
gnomefreakmichael_, what one do you have installed now?11:17
Rickersethk: exactly11:17
michael_gnome11:17
Sepheebearmichael_: you first want to start by installing KDE, lol, but after that minor detail is in place, there is a "Session" button on the GDM screen that you can select KDE with11:17
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sethkRicker, that's often missing in the computer world.  The question is not "which is the best language", but "which is the best language to do X"11:17
j2daoshuhh yeah... sethk ... which .file do i need to remove? whatever is starting up?11:17
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Rickersethk: besides in this economy, you have to keep up with more than one language/OS11:17
sethkj2daosh, the files you will care about are in the .gnome directory under your home directory11:17
gnomefreakthan if your using synaptic choose kubuntu-desktop it give you apps along with the kde GUI11:17
sethkRicker, that's true.11:17
VexorDoes anyone know how to make the module dependency file static?  I have the kernel 3rd party modules installed for variouse reasons, and everytime I make changes to it, it gets updated correcting the changes I made..11:17
Java_the_Huttcan anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?11:18
michael_k, ty11:18
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sethkj2daosh, if you remove the entire .gnome directory it will be returned to the state it was in the first time you logged in.11:18
j2daoshonly thing in there is the trash_entry_cache11:18
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sethkj2daosh, check other . directories.  Also make sure you use -A with ls to see hidden (dot) files in the subdirectories.11:18
j2daoshwhat about .gnome2?11:18
j2daoshim using the gui file browser to see them all11:19
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sethkj2daosh, see the .gnome2 directory11:19
Rickersethk:  I'm curious.  are you located in the united states?11:19
sethkj2daosh, also .gnome_private11:19
sethkRicker, yes11:19
gimmulfHAPPY NEW YEAR FROM SWEDEN!11:19
gimmulflol11:19
richardtallentAnyone: installing Ubunto 5.10, it didn't recognize my Linksys wireless PCMCIA card (WPC54G). Any ideas?11:19
sethkRicker, not everyone in the US is a nut.  :)11:19
MarcNsethk: just 51% are11:20
lucasvorichardtallent: is it a card with prism chipset?11:20
sethkrichardtallent, probably you'll need to load some kernel modules, since the install didn't figure that out for you.  do man modprobe11:20
ddigglerAnyone can help me to install more development tools on my ubuntu box,other than Perl :)11:20
Vexorgimmulf : it's not the new year here yet, but in a few hours it will feel like 2009.. ;)11:20
Sepheebearwe just have nuts creating our patent laws11:20
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gimmulf:)11:20
sethkMarcN, probably closer to 95%, but whatever...:)11:20
michael_it's not letting me select any of the kde options11:20
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epphow do install an rpm?11:21
richardtallentlucasvo: have no idea11:21
michael_i tried kdesktop, kdebase, and kdegraphics11:21
MarcNsethk: /me lives in a Blue State.11:21
twystedepp alien11:21
afiefepp: you use alien to convert it to a deb11:21
richardtallentsethk: thanks, will try this  after install is complete.11:21
Rickersethk: I'm here in the US as well.  this is certainly Off topic, but I will only ask this once, my next question is, have you personally noticed a squeeze in the job market as tech jobs are being moved out of our country?11:21
sethkrichardtallent, lucasvo I thought that one is atheros, but I might not be correct11:21
Sepheebearmichael_: where are you trying those options11:21
michael_synaptic11:21
epphmm11:21
twystedepp last time i installed a rpm on my box it broke it i had to unfuck it11:21
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sethkRicker, yes and no.  I'm working on software that will run on an assembly line in Taiwan11:21
eric_I'm on ubuntu but what to xubuntu how do i that?11:21
twystederic_ xubuntu is ubuntu11:22
sethkRicker, It appears to me that the job market is moving in the right direction again, although slowly11:22
Rickersethk:  wow.  does that require you to read understand chinese or is it in english?11:22
epptwysted, thx for the info i wioll lay of the rpms11:22
sethkRicker, I think the outsourcing thing is a fad which will pass.11:22
sethkRicker, english.11:22
Amarantheric_: enable universe and install xubuntu-desktop11:22
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sethkRicker, everyone in the far east works in english, at least in the technical fields11:22
RickersethK:  I"m noticing it FINALLY starting to pick up here too (whew)11:22
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michael_i'm starting to think about dloading kubuntu and installing it, but i don't wanna wait that long11:22
eric_oh, I did that but nothing changed11:22
Vexorgimmulf : my friends seem to think they are going to get me all crazy tonight, but it's when I get back on the computer in the morning, seeing double, THAT is when it gets all weird.  Every new year I have to re-install my OS for some damn reason.11:23
sethkRicker, I'm hoping it is a trend and not just a blip11:23
FlannelKingmichael_, you can easily convert ubuntu to kubuntu11:23
[Ely] Hey epp I'm back!11:23
ShadymanHi guys.11:23
michael_how?11:23
Rickersethk: ME TOOOOOOOO11:23
Amarantheric_: You need to logout and choose a different session on the login screen11:23
ataqHappy New year Guys!!!11:23
sethkVexor, maybe the new year's eve party?11:23
Amarantheric_: It'll probably be called XFCE or xubuntu11:23
Rickersethk: the last 3 years were hell.11:23
michael_i don't have kde installed11:23
sethkVexor, you black out and trash your machine?  :)11:23
FlannelKingmichael_, there's instructions... um, but its basically get the kubuntu meta package11:23
Sepheebearisnt all the kubuntu kstuff in kmain kalready kanyway?11:23
Vexorsethk : I never remember exactly why..11:24
eric_oh I see, I restarted by pc after I used synaptic to install and it just brought my usual login screen11:24
michael_which one is it? I try to select packages, but they rely on other things that can't beselected11:24
[Ely] brb11:24
ddigglerHehe,i found out...thanks anyway11:24
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Rickersethk: thank for the chat!  always nice to visit this channel.11:24
eppEly!!!11:24
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BxLeric_, on the login screen, there is a button called session, click on it and choose xfce.11:25
eppEly, i try to compile an app in java and it wont work11:25
BxLeric_,  then login, and you should be in xfce11:25
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Sepheebearmichael_: why not just install the kubuntu-desktop package11:25
sethkRicker, np, good to talk to you.11:25
Eleafwhat can I use to encode an mp3 from an ogg file?11:25
Eleaflame doesn't work11:25
[Ely] lol Epp11:25
michael_Sepheeber: can i pm you11:25
eric_ok thanks, I'll try that.  Now if I decide I like that better how do I get rid of the gnome version11:25
MarcNEleaf: ogg => WAV => mp311:26
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FlannelKingmichael_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE11:26
[Ely] Ok now Im just using a virtual machine, while I learn more about Ubuntu Epp.11:26
BxLeric_, try it, we'll see after okay?11:26
SepheebearEleaf: there used to be an app called dir2ogg that converted mp3 to ogg format11:26
michael_k, ty11:26
FlannelKingbasically its just installing kubuntu-desktop meta package11:26
FlannelKingwhich takes care of the rest11:26
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Java_the_Huttcan anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?11:26
eric_alright I will, thanks for the help11:26
EleafSepheebear, Marc_On_Vacation ok thanks...11:27
EleafMarc_On_Vacation, when I do that, the file size gets huge when it goes to a wav...11:27
SepheebearEleaf: check the ubuntu wiki, there was an unsupported repository that you could use to get dir2ogg11:27
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michael_i dunt have kubuntu-desktop in my list, i need to have the right repository i think11:27
BxLeric_, no problem11:27
Vexorsethk : last year I just didn't feel like my computer was 'clean' enough..  pretty crazy.11:27
Delvien!restricted11:27
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:27
Sepheebearmichael_: are you on breezy or hoary?11:27
michael_hoary11:27
EleafI want it to go from ogg to mp311:27
sethkVexor, lock up the computer and don't open it before noon tomorrow.  :)11:27
eppanyone know how to set the path of the JDK?11:27
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Sepheebearkubuntu-desktop is in breezy main11:27
MarcNEleaf: convert your ogg to a wav file, then convert the wav file to mp311:28
Vexoroh man, noon tomorrow would be even worse11:28
michael_i didn't know breezy was released yet11:28
naliothEleaf: it will most likely have to be put into .wav format to be reripped as ogg11:28
ltibor65Seveas, tell me a midiplayer for Ubuntu, please!11:28
EleafMarcN, That makes the file size off the roof...11:28
braskoOK, I finished downloading and burning the ISO11:28
dooglusmichael_: there is a new release every April and October.11:28
braskoI have 1 recomendation11:28
Sepheebearmichael_: yeah its been out since october11:28
braskoIt could be nice to have a smaller ISO11:28
Vexorjust moved to Madison, WI.. this will be my first new years here..  I don't know what to expect.11:28
braskosince it takes so long to download11:28
braskoand finish it off with a net install11:28
Eleafnalioth, when I go ogg to wav to mp3, the filesize ends up getting just bigger...11:28
MarcNEleaf: I don't know of a direct ogg to mp3 converter.  Try piping the output of oggdec to lame11:29
naliothEleaf: once you get the mp3 you can delete the wav11:29
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ltibor65Boys, who can tell me a midi-player?11:29
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Eleafnalioth, ... the final mp3 is too big11:29
eppanyone know how to set the path of the JDK?11:29
naliothEleaf: then adjust your mp3 ripper settings11:29
MarcNEleaf: you can control the size/quality of the mp3 file11:29
Eleafnalioth, say I start with a 3 meg ogg file, I go to wav which makes it like 50 megs. then that recompresses as like 5 or 6 megs.. it needs to be smaller11:29
Eleafnalioth, on the lowest quality11:29
MarcNEleaf: use pipes!11:30
naliothEleaf: then perhaps you should use aac or stay with ogg11:30
cvt|nixmasanyone know why mplayer isn't in synaptic?11:30
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Sturgeoncvt|nixmas: it is11:30
Sturgeoncvt|nixmas: add the right repositories11:30
Sepheebearcvt|nixmas: it is in multiverse11:30
michael_how do i add the breezy repository?11:30
Eleafnalioth, omg.  I have a huge project I'm doing for my dad.  He can't use ogg, it needs to be mp3 for his site.  I use ogg normally11:30
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Sepheebearmichael_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change the hoary lines to breezy11:31
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EleafMarcN, when I go from ogg to mp3, it just creates a file with loud static11:31
braskogeez, did I screw up? or is the ISO supposed to drop me to the A:\> ?11:31
FlannelKingmichael_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:31
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thegladiatori dont like pdf files being previewd in nautilus . how can i get rid of it ?11:31
VexorI usually use SHN for FLAC.  When I convert that to MP3, that's when I LOSE static.11:32
VexorOR11:32
braskoDoes anyone know if the ISO for breezy is supposed to drop you to the A:\> ?11:32
IRCMonkey"IRCMonkey, put cd in cd rom and boot from cdrom in bios" how i get in bios?11:32
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braskoor did I screw up the burn with nero?11:32
twystedits  not brasko11:32
braskogeez11:32
Eleafhello?11:32
thegladiatori dont like pdf files being previewd in nautilus file manager . how can i get rid of it ?11:33
twystedbrasko your more then likely not booting from the cd atg all11:33
TonyStAlright... when I boot, Kubuntu doesn't automaticly recognise my network card, so I have to 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' every time at boot, manually. Then, I have to head into networking and activate my network card11:33
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Nik----i'm trying to install Ubuntu on a hard drive that already has XP installed.. i'm at the partitioning step.. when creating the swap partition, should it be primary or logical? should it be bootable?11:33
polpakthegladiator, in nautilus go to edit->preferences11:33
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braskotwysted: it's definatly the disk I'm in11:34
polpakthegladiator, then go to the preview tab and specify your options there11:34
braskoCan I run one of the exe's to boot the startup off?11:34
twystednik--- eh it doesnt ask that in the ubuntu installer when your making a swap11:34
cvt|nixmashow do i add multiverse?11:34
naliothubotu: tell cvt|nixmas about repos11:34
twystedbrasko i doubt it ;) maybe you burned a  w98 cd or something lol11:34
rabbitaccording to gnutella, the gtk-gnutella version I got from the universe is very old..   does anyone know anything about this?11:34
naliothrabbit: most things in the repos are out of date11:34
braskogeez11:34
Nik----i changed the file system to swap area and there's a bootable field... should it be on or off?11:34
braskoI probably did11:34
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naliothNik----: doesnt matter11:35
thegladiatorpolpak, what inside preview ?11:35
rabbitnalioth:  any way to update?11:35
twystednik-- off11:35
shekari just installed ubuntu and the resolution won't go higher than 640x48011:35
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michael_would somebody with ubuntu breezy be willing to give me a copy of their sources.list?11:35
rabbitnalioth:  is this version functional for you?11:35
shekarany ideas?11:35
naliothrabbit: grab the source from the homepage and build it (don't forget to use checkinstall)11:35
naliothrabbit: i dont p2p11:35
thegladiatorpolpak, i dont need to remove images being previewed11:35
Sepheebearmichael_: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:35
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michael_i changed hoary to breezy, but it gives me a shit load of errors11:36
VexorI wish ubuntu would conentrate from on feature updates than security updates.  I would love an integrated firefox installation.  I was counting on the backports project for this, but it looks like it didn't work out.  That hurt.11:36
khextpeople, happy new year!11:36
IRCMonkeyi probably have more questions but most of them were answered thnx guys.. (such a big commutity) :D11:36
naliothmichael_: leave the profanity in the barnyard, please11:36
Sepheebearmichael_: that page will generate a working sources.list for you11:36
rabbitnalioth:  what's checkinstall for?11:36
naliothubotu: tell rabbit about checkinstall11:37
shekarhello,  anybody deal with screen resolution problems ?11:37
michael_ty11:37
Sepheebearrabbit: checkinstall is for sissies11:37
naliothubotu: tell Sepheebear about conduct11:37
jhennis ubuntu ever getting a graphical installer?11:37
Nik----is the swap partition supposed to be primary or logical? it asks me before i am able to set it as a swap partition....11:37
thegladiatoradobe reader is faster and better than evince i think11:37
naliothNik----: it doesnt matter11:37
Sepheebearthanks11:37
naliothrabbit: read the link ubotu sent you re checkinstall11:38
rabbitnalioth: yep11:38
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shekarcan't set the resolution higher than 640x480...11:38
naliothubotu: tell shekar about fixres11:39
twystedvexor backports are to use oldersoftware thats been patched to keep it secured its not ot give you the latest and greatest11:39
dustindoes anyone know how to convert a number with commas in php to an integer?11:39
twysteddustin ask the folks in #php11:39
niffehappy new year ppl, just chanced in here :)11:40
dustinyeah I'm there now, not to responsive though11:40
braskoIs everyone ready for the leap second?11:40
Vexortwysted : I guess I have alway relied on the project more for version updates than security fixes or legacy applications.11:40
braskoIt's going to happen 1 second before 7PM eastern time, I think11:40
rabbitnalioth:  "Instead of sudo make install you will use sudo checkinstall"        is it "make"  then "sudo checkinstall" ?11:40
Sepheebearnalioth: thanks for the reminder, i appreciate that11:40
michael_talk to you all later, thanks for the help11:40
naliothrabbit: yes.11:40
rabbitnalioth: k11:41
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Nik----what about the ubuntu installation partition... should it be primary or logical? and what file system should i use?11:41
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khextniffe: hey isn't it too crowdy here for this night?11:42
naliothNik----: it doesnt matter11:42
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naliothNik----: use ext311:42
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niffekhext: well, yes ;p11:42
braskoI mean, this is the prompt I got '[DR-DOS]  A:\>'11:42
braskoWhat's up with that?11:42
braskoApparently, I have no idea how to burn this ISO using Nero. Anyone does this before?11:42
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Sepheebeardoesnt nero have a burn disk image option?11:43
twystedbrasko burn it as an image11:43
twysted:)11:43
ltibor65Can somebody tell me an usable midi-player?11:43
navaronebrasko...you have to update your bios...the dr dos is there cos it is allowing bios to see large drive. I had same prob and had to update bios for mb and format drive to get rid of the direct drive overlay (ddo) that was bypassing the bios11:43
Sepheebearsurprising nero doesnt do that automagically since its so popular11:43
polpakbrasko, or you can get other freeware software to burn ISO images to disk11:44
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castlerockltibor65: does it have to be a Gnome app? or can it be a kde one?11:44
braskoI did in Nero, Data->Bootable Data Disk11:44
castlerockltibor65: a kde that comes to mind is Kmid (KDE midi)11:44
cvt|nixmasi have dapper11:44
polpakbrasko, no11:44
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MasterWammyIm compiling a new kernel, now it is asking me about IO Schedulers do all of the options have to be selected? anticipatory,deadline,cfq? or can i just select one and not compile the others?11:44
braskoDisk Image or Saved Project?11:45
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polpakbrasko, that'll just make a bootable disk with the ISO on it11:45
kbrooksSepheebear, "don't do things unless the user says so"11:45
cvt|nixmasis dapper preventing me from finding mplayer in synaptic?11:45
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polpakbrasko, disk image11:45
braskoOK, thanks!11:45
theCorehow do I configure Apache to execute python scripts page with mod_python?11:45
polpakcvt|nixmas, I shouldn't think so11:45
ltibor65castlerock, I have Kmidi, it plays midi, but there are no sound. What to do?11:45
kbrookstheCore, CGI is simpler11:46
Drakencan someone help me, i have followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 , to install my nvidia drivers, but i keep on getting there is no precompiled kernel or something to that effect11:46
navaroneltibor65, do you get any sound at all?11:46
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Drakendoes anyone know how to fix ?11:46
castlerockltibor65: did you check the options and preferences? It just might not be using the right sound output11:46
dfgas-disklesswhat is a onscreen keyboard program called?  for gnome11:46
Sepheebearcvt|nixmas: mplayer is in multiverse in dapper too11:46
castlerockltibor65: it should be set to ALSA11:46
theCorekbrooks, i want to use Python Server Page, so i need mod_python11:46
polpakDraken, are you using Hoary?11:47
Nik----should the ubuntu installation partition be bootable?11:47
castlerockltibor65: and if Kmidi doesn't work at all, try Musica (do a search for it ;-) )11:47
Sepheebearin dapper the mplayer-$arch packages have been made into dummy packages11:47
navaroneNik----, yes11:47
kbrooksNik----, yes11:47
Nik----all right, thanks guys :)11:47
chalcedonyhow to play Mp3s in ubuntu?11:47
kbrooksnavarone, echo bounching around eh ;)11:47
kbrooksbouncing*11:47
Sepheebeardfgas-diskless: gok11:47
sethkNik----, doesn't matter11:47
ltibor65Mp3, vaw, audio cd gives sound, but midi no.11:47
kbrookssethk, who is right?11:48
navaroneltibor65, if you are not getting sound at all you can also check "alsamixer" in terminal to make sure nothing is muted11:48
VexorDraken  : if you don't need the proprietary kernel modules, you can get rid of the 3rd party module package.  It is trying to use that nvidia package instead of your updated nvidia installation.  That is why I came in here, dependency issues with that.11:48
navaroneyup kbrooks11:48
kbrookssethk, not you. end of story11:48
sethkkbrooks, wrong.  It doesn't matter.  I just checked.11:48
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ltibor65ok, navarone, I try alsamixer.11:48
kbrookssethk, the mbr ...11:48
Nik----it sounds like none of the partition settings really matter as long as there's enough space11:48
AfiefHow can i edit a textfile in terminal mode? I think i screwed up my x server11:48
sethkkbrooks, yes, the partition table is in the mbr, what of it?11:48
Drakenpolpak11:48
kbrookssethk, never mind11:49
Drakenim using kubuntu breezy11:49
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kbrooksAfief, use nano.11:49
SepheebearAfief: try "nano <file>"11:49
sethkkbrooks, I don't mind.  The bootable flag doesn't matter to linux.11:49
kbrooks$ nano file11:49
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polpakDraken, ?11:49
Draken[00:47]  <polpak> Draken, are you using Hoary?11:49
kbrooksAfief, ^ means CTRL-11:49
Nik----i don't need to worry about a mount point for the ubuntu installation partition either?11:49
navaroneAfief, type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:49
polpakDraken, ah11:49
kbrooksNik----, you di11:49
kbrooksdo11:49
polpakDraken, you should use the WIKI instructions for your video drivers11:50
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kbrooksAfief, ^X == CTRL-X11:50
polpakDraken, that thread is for Hoary11:50
Drakenpolpak11:50
Drakeni have tried the wiki11:50
Drakensame errors11:50
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Draken!nvidia11:50
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:50
Nik----my ubuntu installation partition mount point is set to / is that ok?11:50
kbrooksNik----, yes11:50
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polpak...11:50
kbrooksNik----, thats the default11:51
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Afief!ATI11:51
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1011:51
kbrooksNik----, no /, no install11:51
Nik----my XP partition isn't bootable... should it be?11:51
polpakhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver11:51
Drakenand also polpak, the wiki doesnt help with amd64 version11:51
kbrooksNik----, grub will detect xp11:51
rabbithow often is software in the universe updated ??11:51
polpakDraken, ah.. sorry. I don't know anything about the 64 bit arch11:52
kbrooksNik----, a boot loader will come up11:52
navaronespeaking of grub I need food11:52
castlerockltibor65: sorry, I am out of ideas....11:52
Drakenpolpak, also, ive downloaded the nvidia drivers11:52
castlerocknavarone: lol11:52
Drakeni dont want to redownload them thru a pkg manager11:52
kbrooksNik----, and ask u which os to boot11:52
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castlerocknavaron: I like the connection between grub and food11:52
kbrooksNik----, u can select from windows or linux11:52
kbrookscastlerock, would you like context?11:53
Nik----what if the XP partition and the Ubuntu partition are both set to not be bootable? grub still overrides?11:53
rabbitDraken: I have an nvidia card, but I didn't install a driver,  what difference does it make?11:53
kbrooksgrub is GRUB is GRand Unified Bootloader11:53
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Drakenrabbit11:53
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Drakeni have a new nvidia card, they dont work nice with X1111:53
rabbitDraken, ah..  okay11:54
kbrooksNik----, set the ubuntu partition to bootable, or your computer will be rendered unbootable11:54
polpakrabbit, you won't be able to take advantage of opengl games etc11:54
Afiefsince i installed ubuntu's fglrx for my ATI card, every video program gives me an error... anybody had that problem?11:54
iamgodhmmm11:54
Drakenneed new drivers or i cant stay in the gui longer then 2mins11:54
kbrooksAfief, what error? be specific11:54
Nik----thank you11:54
polpakrabbit, Are you using a 32 bit processor (intel and older AMDs)11:54
cvt|nixmasi can't enable multiverse. i get error11:55
rabbitpolpak:  P4 32, yeah..   should I install a driver?11:55
cvt|nixmas"Could not download all repositories"11:55
iamgodAfief, I have a radeon IGP 340 M , should I use the fglrx driver?11:55
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imperfect-Hello.11:55
imperfect-How are you ?11:55
timfrostkbrooks, Nik----, Linux partitikons donb't need the bootable flag, but Windows partition DOES.11:55
polpakrabbit, I would.. Read the driver section of the getting started guide11:55
kbrookstimfrost, not so11:56
rabbitpolpak, my refresh rate only goes to 75 hz  (at this res)  I think..11:56
misfit_toyimperfect-, we are all drunk11:56
kbrookstimfrost, not true11:56
imperfect-rock on11:56
polpakrabbit, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver11:56
Drakenpolpak, i know wat my problem is, its on alot of nvidia forums, i need to update, but every guide i follow gives same problems11:56
iamgodi want to be drunk...damn it11:56
Afiefkbrooks: totem says the video server/driver is busy. mplayer says xv or something like that is missing11:56
Drakenand the drivers from pkg managers are old11:56
rabbitpolpak: okay thanks11:56
pashawDraken,   you comment on X11 and nvidia  is a bit wrong   Nvidia drivers have problems with 64bit wondiws also11:56
imperfect-Anyone know where i can get a gkrellm theme package?11:56
misfit_toyiamgod, you have to open a bottle then11:56
kbrooksAfief, mplayer complains? ummm11:56
polpakAfief, how did you install the ATI drivers11:56
Drakenpashaw, i know wat im talking about, go read some forums11:56
iamgodopen the bottle..... and11:57
Nik----will grub work if XP partition is bootable instead of the ubuntu partition?11:57
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pashawDraken,   sorry    just shoveled driveway   typing even worse then normal11:57
Afiefpolpak: downloaded the deb from the repository, installed according to wiki11:57
iamgodgoogle gkrellm11:57
Java_the_Huttanyone can help me with PPPD options and scripts ?11:57
cvt|nixmasit's not letting me install mplayer. ideas?11:57
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polpakAfief, what ATI card are you using?11:57
pashawDraken,   i have nvidia in all my machines expect my lappy   from geforce(1)cards to  6800gt11:57
timfrostkbrooks, I can't verify the Windows side at present, as I don't have a Windows partition.  However there is no partition with the bootable flag set in my current system.11:58
kbrooksNik----, um, please please dont set any partitions bootable11:59
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pashawDraken,   but on a serious note i hope you get it working  id like to use 64bit a year or too when you guys work out the bugs  :P11:59
Afiefpolpak: readon mobility x600. Mplayer plays the movie, but i get a nasty black screen on the background and can't move to full screen11:59
polpaktimfrost, the windows partition won't need the bootable flag11:59
imperfect-Anyone know where I can get gkrellm themes?11:59
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kbrookssomeone?11:59
Nik----now i'm really confused... some are saying DO make ubuntu parition bootable, others are saying don't ??11:59
kbrookswhat is this "bootable flag"12:00
polpakAfief, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?12:00

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