[12:02] for crontab -e [12:03] bam: try kate [12:03] kate will do simple jobs for you with great ease [12:03] if needed as root [12:03] try kdesu kate [12:03] question if I have a crontab I made outside of crontab -e how can I tell cron to use it?, aka install it === AoP [n=christia@blk-137-127-105.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:04] dunno [12:04] kate is fine [12:04] but I can use nano or pico as well, just not a fan of vi [12:04] i used pico may be 10 years ago last time === Draken [n=Drakenis@myw-stp-66-18-80-215.sentechsa.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:05] my zaurus uses vi as an editor(default) [12:05] can anyone help me install new nvidia drivers [12:05] latest ones === kaenat [n=ubuntu@pool-71-101-238-12.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:05] vi is not bad once you get used to it [12:05] I am wondering how ubuntu got it to call nano instead of vi [12:06] hmmm [12:06] got an idea [12:07] ahaa, it worked cool [12:07] can anyone help me install new nvidia drivers [12:07] latest ones [12:08] is there a system wide environmental variable that you can specify te editor, say pico instead of vi? === Juerd [n=juerd@aak.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu === maerky [n=buknoy@212.77.220.207] has joined #kubuntu === maerky is now known as buknoy === bipolar [n=bflong@66.216.151.190.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #kubuntu === buknoy is now known as _buknoy [12:13] <_buknoy> anyone pinoy here [12:13] Can anyone pack the default Kubuntu colors(System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> Save Model) as a .kcsrc and send the file to me please? === difeta [n=difeta@c-67-170-40-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] how can i make it kde does not mount my dvds and cds when they are inserted? [12:28] does anyone know what this means: [12:28] $ glxgears [12:28] ERROR: version mismatch - 2D module [8.20.8] incompatible with OGL client module [8.19.10] . === duende [n=duende@stjhnf0122w-142162051177.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === Java_the_Hutt [n=onur@85.105.19.139] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] Hey guys, my wpa_supplicant is just about connecting, but it says authentication time out. [12:40] it finds the AP, associates, then times out on auth === mac2612 [n=forrie@pool-70-104-33-52.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@n218103205172.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DD172.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === laser_tk [i=laser@dsl-lprgw4-fe66dd00-221.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] fohes neues jahr! Happy new year! [12:51] +r === ninnghizidha [n=ninn_@chello084112032164.1.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman is now known as kkathman-away === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === Shadyman [n=Shadyman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3872942.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu [] === thazza [n=thazza@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.185.237] has joined #kubuntu === Juerd_ [n=juerd@aak.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] Can anyone pack the default Kubuntu colors(System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> Save Model) as a .kcsrc and send the file to me please? [01:18] n8 === crown [n=crown@catv-50628f37.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #kubuntu === canllaith [n=dessa@kde/jhall] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] heya, in the stuff you can easily apt-get on kubuntu, can you easily get KDE windecos and widget styles? [01:29] ah, and would a kubuntu livecd run ok with 256MB memory, or am I masochistic for even contemplating it? === sander__ [n=sander@pool-141-157-221-24.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === mathieu [n=mathieu@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3496727.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === AoP [n=christia@blk-137-127-105.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] hi all, I cant seem to find a list somewhere of all the user groups and their meaning... anyone know where I could find such a thing? Ive tried google but couldnt get any pertinent results === francisco [n=francisc@87.218.32.184] has joined #kubuntu === digitalfreak2007 [n=digitalf@pool-71-107-151-216.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] hey guys i have a problem with sudo access [01:45] right after install, sudo works as it should giving superuser access with the user password. after i restart the computer, sudo doesn't work anymore. It doesn't say anything about a wrong password. In fact it seems to accept the password, but it doesn't give me admin rights. [01:45] Any tips on how to get this working? === Pupeno [n=pupeno@146-188-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu === wezlo [n=wallen@pcp0010717039pcs.hershy01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] hmm === nalioth [n=Apple@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has joined #kubuntu === wezlo [n=wallen@pcp0010717039pcs.hershy01.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:51] digitalfreak2007: ask nalioth [01:52] nalioth: any tips on how to get sudo working for the kde control panel? === nalioth [n=Apple@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has left #kubuntu [] [01:53] AoP: i think he's gone [01:55] AoP: maybe i have to do a regular install instead of an expert install? [01:55] What are you trying to do? [01:57] well i am trying to configure my network settings in control panel. it asks for my password. I type it in it seems like it accepts the password, but the settings page is still in regular user mode [01:58] hmmm === tibor [n=tibor@69.179.176.27] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tiberius [n=tiberius@69.179.176.27] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] i read something in the forum about doing a regular install, cuz expert install doesn't give the user sudo rights [02:00] bam_? === Lacerta [n=simo@dsl-lprgw5-fe5ddc00-8.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === bipolar [n=bflong@66.216.151.190.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #kubuntu === ggilbert [n=ggilbert@69-175-35-85.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] bam_. This URL might have the right answer to your question about how to set the systemwide default editor (at least under bash for crontab) - http://blog.breuls.org/2005/11/26/default-crontab-editor/ === dsamsonov [n=samson@clients-nat-65.gagarino.net] has joined #kubuntu === _skiy [n=skiy@81-6-230-252.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === N6REJ [n=troy@216.139.123.164] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] <_skiy> happy new year all ! [02:25] tiberius, killer, will work in my zaurus [02:25] :) [02:25] thanks [02:25] <_skiy> a quick question, If I install a "Daily" CD, can I still upgrade to the latest "stable" ubuntu? === mebsd [n=kakaka@CPE0004ac237e6f-CM0012c999cc0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] Can anyone pack the default Kubuntu colors(System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> Save Model) as a .kcsrc and send the file to me please? [02:28] i want to install kubuntu [02:28] what's smallest iso i can get [02:29] They're all the same size for normal CDs [02:29] Do you have Ubuntu installed? [02:29] no linux installed, only winxp and netbsd if that helps [02:30] Download a Kubuntu CD [02:30] or order one. === RayTracer [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-239-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] which one to dl [02:30] You can free Ubuntu CDs from ship-it [02:30] i don't order *nix [02:31] Download the normal CD for your architecture [02:31] what you mean [02:31] Burn, Install, Enjoy :) [02:31] satisfaction guarantee? [02:31] No :p [02:32] I assume if you have BSD, you're familiar with partitioning? === mzelem [n=mike@71-208-179-200.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] Hello, anyone know if you can copy picture files to a motorola razr using usb or bluetooth in kubuntu? [02:34] You can ask in the #ubuntu channel, it should be similar with Kubuntu... Or compare with the Windows usage [02:34] ok, thanks [02:35] Elsan_: im very good at partition thing, also grud and kernel === HiveDrone [n=HiveDron@x1-6-00-10-a7-08-8e-f7.k130.webspeed.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] Elsan_: i used to load xen guest linux domain, load it with netbsd xen kernel as module, all in grub [02:35] mebsd: Oh... :p [02:37] Choose a mirror from your location and select the good install CD. For 32 bits it should be:" kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso" [02:41] medsb: Will it be ok? [02:41] maybe === mzelem [n=mike@71-208-179-200.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu [] [02:48] mebsd: Just make sure you download the good CD, it's not hard at all [02:49] mebsd: The rest is just following the instructions and selecting the good partition [02:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I386 it's for Ubuntu but it should help! === Knowerrors [n=flow@Node35-175-53-66.1dial.com] has joined #kubuntu === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] Happy new year [02:57] When I run FF from the comman line, I get firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success, and it doesn't load, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, still nada, can anyone help? === SpentCasing [n=SpentCas@oh-strongsvillecadent1-2d-27.clvhoh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] i need a new wireless card, any suggestions that work well with kubuntu? [03:05] FF ? [03:10] firefox [03:15] aah, Fx === N6REJ is away: Away at the moment === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] fd === leafw [n=leafw@dhcp226-12.obee.ucla.edu] has joined #kubuntu === Finalhazard [n=charles@pcp08482444pcs.lafayt01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Finalhazard [n=charles@pcp08482444pcs.lafayt01.tn.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === _skiy [n=skiy@84.12.164.247] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] does anyone know if firefox 1.5 is available for breezy-ppc ? === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu === N6REJ is back. === ice [n=ice@71-10-92-206.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu === sven [n=sven@p5081AB8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === sven is now known as GoGoGecko === GoGoGecko is now known as SethGecko2 === SethGecko2 is now known as SethGecko [04:16] Hey guys, someone wanna help me big time?? === Snake|Away is now known as Snake === SethGecko [n=sven@p5081AB8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] Snake: what is there? [04:18] raphink: I want to make my PC snore when it goes idle [04:18] lol [04:18] huh [04:18] what's the point? === SethGecko [n=sven@p5081AB8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] Why not [04:18] lol [04:18] try to see if you can set that in Kcontrol [04:18] I cant lol [04:19] I'll go to bed... it doesnt seem so much of an urgent issue to be fixed ;) [04:19] Nope :) [04:19] night [04:19] ty [04:19] bye [04:19] && happy new year [04:19] same to u === MrJangles [n=dan@CPE0014bfa8616d-CM000f212fb20c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:21] kubuntu's awesome.... [04:22] Yep === Snake is now known as Snake__ [04:24] any quicktime, flash or any other media player for kubuntu-ppc ? === _eric [n=eric@adsl-71-137-87-227.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@cpe-066-056-187-199.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === anthony [n=anthony@hlfxns0149w-142177090019.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] leafw: check the mplayer site for powerpc proprietry codecs libraries I seem to remember === anthony [n=anthony@hlfxns0149w-142177090019.ns.aliant.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:41] guys my kde login screen is very bad.. I don't know how to describe it.. it seems like the resolution is out of range ... but xorg config autodetected the refresh rates and resolutions any help please. === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@69.37.175.75] has joined #kubuntu === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] hello? [04:55] anyone here? [04:56] Yes, sort of. [04:56] ah, [04:56] i jsut set up a partition and downloaded kubuntu [04:56] Ok. [04:56] now...i want to set up a dual boot [04:56] is that all on the download? [04:56] as options or something? [04:56] Ok, (k)ubuntu should do that automatically. You do still have the other OS, right? [04:56] that's not difficult; the installer does that for you. [04:56] yeah [04:56] im on it now :) [04:56] you didn't even have to repartition prior [04:57] Ok. [04:57] well, can i use the partition i have? [04:57] just choose the guided partitioning option [04:57] *that i jsut made [04:57] i'd rather use the partition i just made, is that ok? [04:57] or do i have t use the guide? [04:57] You do in some cases, I believe. I had to manually partition before setting up kubuntu and Windows XP dual-boot. [04:58] well, i have the partition then, so lets hope that works, so just pop the disc in and install [04:58] ? [04:58] how long does it take on avg? [04:59] that long eh... :P [05:00] It takes a while. You're installing an entire OS :P [05:00] so like, 30 minutes, 45, 5 hours? [05:00] Depends heavily on the computer and the HD speed :P [05:01] hm... [05:01] damn [05:01] alright [05:01] Elessar86: kubuntu installed in 45 minutes in an old mac I have home. [05:01] Takes me between half an hour and an hour. [05:01] 2.2 ghz, 448 mb ram [05:01] and a descent HD [05:01] (depending on how much I mess up :P) [05:01] im on a laptop [05:01] so we'll see :) [05:01] Installing on this laptop took about half an hour. [05:01] anyway, thanks guys, im gonna go burn the image to disc and then install === Pupeno_ [n=pupeno@146-188-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [05:01] cool [05:01] so not too long [05:02] http://kanotix.com/ [05:02] a friend jsut suggested [05:02] this [05:02] im new to this linux stuff, so just trying to get some advice [05:05] Happy new year! [05:05] still 55 minutes :) === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.112.60] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] <_skiy> e1a [05:08] well, its burning, im off, thanks for the help guys === Shadyman [n=Shadyman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3872942.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === matt_ [n=matt@ppp-68-251-47-221.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] hello [05:11] Hi matt === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@toronto-HSE-ppp4003100.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] how do you handle mms:// ? [05:12] what's the best way to use a custom kernel with kubuntu? [05:12] ...just use it? [05:12] drakeson: there's a gstreamer plugin for mms:// [05:12] Compile it and reboot into it. [05:12] is it working or "kinda working" ? [05:12] More specifically, compile it, install it, reboot into it. [05:13] matt_ what kernel? [05:13] what about the packege manager? Will it overwrite on the next version upgrade? [05:13] drakeson: the Linux kernel... [05:13] I mean what version [05:13] 2.6.14 [05:14] I am on 2.6.15 now [05:14] using dapper [05:14] matt_, it will not overwrite it per se, but it will change the /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:14] I'm using a patched 2.6.13 (for cardbus support) [05:14] kalenedrael: so I'll need to re-change the menu.lst before rebooting after an upgrade? [05:15] You should do that, yes... [05:15] I assume you know how to edit that file. [05:15] have you ever used the make-deb option for the 2.6 kernel? [05:15] Nope, never even thought about it :p === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] yeah, I know how to edit menu.lst [05:16] (read 'never knew it existed') [05:16] makes more sense to use kernel-package [05:16] the stock kernel uses too many modules === endo602 [n=end@user-0ccemfa.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] Well, in any case, I know where all the files go and I can purge a kernel entirely if need be, so :P [05:17] and if I want to use my scanner usblp and usb_storage need to be built in or I have to rmmod them every time I want to scan and insmod them when I want to print again. [05:18] I would recommend against building those in. [05:18] why? === ubcbill [n=ubcbill@sr-188.srtb05.resnet.ubc.ca] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] They're... not meant to be... [05:20] It's like building the sound modules in or something, people just don't do it. [05:20] I must say this is the first I've heard of that [05:20] Really? [05:20] yeah [05:20] Well, whatever suits you. I'm not an expert :P === khris [n=khris@ool-182e178c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] I've always tried to build as much into the kernel as I can... [05:20] how do you launch katapult [05:20] i am still waiting for a real reason not to build them in.. [05:20] I must say it's the first time I heard of people doing what you did :P [05:22] well I did it because every time I tried to use the scanner on my epson multi-function it said that usblp had controll of the USB port but when I removed the module it worked fine. I built usblp and usb_storage into the kernel and the problem was gone. [05:23] sounds like a valid reason to build then in [05:23] Ok, like I said, I've never heard of anyone building them in, but apparently you guys do, so sure. [05:24] anyone here got wpa_supplicant working before? [05:24] jsubl2: you build stuff like that in too? [05:25] yeah not lately. we really don't use the scanner portion except as a copier.. I will definetly make note of your fix.. [05:25] but, streamlined hand built kernel normaly will make things faster especially on boot up.. it is just tough to include everything needed [05:26] jsubl2: I think it was because it was using libusb and the scanner module had been taken out of the kernel. [05:26] i have seen that here.. i thought the later hpoj stuff was suppose to fix that. have not kept up with it tho [05:27] isn't that just for hp hardware? [05:27] yeah but epson emulates that does it not.. [05:27] no idea. I just used the cx4800 drivers in cups and it worked great [05:28] that was in Debian Testing and I'm seeing that there is no cx4800 driver in Kubuntu.... [05:28] might need to get an updated ppd from linuxprinting.org [05:29] where do those go? [05:30] well you will need to look.. i am in freebsd at the moment.. my guess would be close to /usr/share/cups search for *.ppd files in that area [05:34] this is odd, they don't even list the cx4800 on linuxprinting.org but I know it was an option in Debian... [05:34] matt_: It might have been the CX4600. [05:34] matt_: The 4800 is new as of 2 months ago. [05:35] Though, it is a great printer either way ;) === Shadyman is an Epson in-store printer rep :P [05:36] no, i know it was the 4800. I had to update cups in order for it to be an option. [05:36] matt_: Oh :) === kalenedrael [i=1587-ide@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] what driver is compatable with the 4800? [05:36] matt_, yeah you might need to build that from source [05:36] the cups.. [05:36] matt_: Usually cups [05:37] matt_: And if you find a driver for CX4200, it should work as well [05:37] I know that, but I have a list of about 50 printers and none of the 4xxx series is listed [05:37] matt_: Weird. 4600 has been around for years. === SethGecko [n=sven@p5081AB8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:38] thats using the cups that comes with kubuntu 5.10 [05:38] matt_: Is there one for the C88? [05:38] matt_: It might be under Stylus Color CX4[x] 00 === dinzdale [n=dinzdale@ip68-1-229-176.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] no c88 just c86 [05:40] anyone here wanna help with a simple cron issue? [05:41] matt_: If there's no C88, then there's most likely no CX4200 or 4800 either. They were released at the same time with the same/similar firmware === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:46] hey [05:46] anyone still here [05:46] No. [05:46] lol [05:46] how do i combine partitions [05:47] i just made one for linux, but when i go to install, it doesnt allow me to use the partition i made, or i dunno how to tell it to use it [05:47] once you select the partition, you have to assign it a mount point [05:47] so, if it's a linux partition, make it "/" [05:47] how do i do that [05:48] i have 2 partitions [05:48] Are you using the install CD? [05:48] and i can see the one i made [05:48] yeah i have it on disc [05:48] all i want to do is make it install on the new partition [05:48] When you're installing, set it to "configure my partitions manually" [05:48] yeah, i did that [05:48] and it shows both partitions [05:49] and then go over the one you set for linux, and hit Enter [05:49] bah, mandrake was so much easier [05:49] Elessar86: So was fedora. [05:49] yeah [05:49] i didnt like mandrake though [05:49] Once you do that, change "Mount Point" to "/" or "root" [05:49] whichever it shows. [05:49] ok [05:49] well, where do i change the mount point [05:50] you should be able to select the partitions with the cursor? [05:50] jsut arrow keys [05:50] well, yeah. [05:50] you should be able to select the partitions with the arrow keys? [05:50] yeah [05:50] select the linux one and hit Enter [05:50] yeah [05:50] and thne i see like bootable flag [05:50] then it gives you some options [05:50] i changed that and made the mistake :P [05:51] hehe [05:51] what options it give you? [05:51] so i jsut changed it back to the main partition and im in safe mode with network === tiberius [n=tiberius@69.179.176.27] has joined #kubuntu [05:51] almost cried bc i though ti lost everything [05:51] Heh [05:51] the thing for the linux was...something like hda/... [05:52] cant remember... [05:52] bah [05:52] /dev/hda1? [05:52] no [05:52] ide/hda5 [05:52] ok [05:52] my main (C:) one is hda1 [05:53] ok [05:53] i want it to use the hda5 (linux partition i made) [05:53] sry, im not good wit hthis stuff [05:53] Ok, so when you go in to edit manually, it'll show you the different partitions [05:53] you select the linux one by highlighting it and hitting enter [05:53] i can supposedly install a new OS with PM 8... [05:53] Doubtful. [05:53] ok [05:54] but yeah, i select linux part. and then what [05:54] then you set hda5 to "format" and make it ext3 [05:54] and set its mount point to "/" [05:54] ok... [05:54] then you should be OK. [05:54] lol [05:54] well, i'll try this again... [05:54] the rest of your drives it'll want to map to /media/hda1, /media/hda2, etc. [05:54] so i want to format hda5 [05:54] tat's ok [05:54] it'll format hda5 in the installer [05:55] ok, i jsut dont want to deleted my c: or anything on it [05:55] yeah [05:55] it'll have smiley faces beside drives that aren't going to be touched [05:55] and after it formats, make it ext3 [05:55] then mount is / [05:55] and a skull and crossbones beside ones that are [05:55] those settings should all be in the menu, you do it all at once, then confirm, and it sets everything up [05:55] is it a good idea to use debian packages with kubuntu? [05:55] well, when the partitions come up, it shows a smile next to both partitions [05:56] so i want the skull and bones next to the linux one? [05:56] Elessar86: Yes. [05:56] k [05:56] thats good to know :) [05:56] i was thinking the opposite [05:56] well as long as my C: has a smile im happy ;) [05:56] go "enter" on the linux one, and set it from "keep partition contents" to "format" or something like that [05:56] gonna try to install, [05:56] k === tiberius [n=tiberius@69.179.176.27] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] thanks :) [05:56] no prob. [05:57] :) [05:57] lets hope nothing goes wrong [05:57] are there packages for installing the latest version of kde? [05:57] it was saying my actions could not b eundone and they the data woudl b eoverwritten [05:57] so i was worried === steve_laptop [n=steven@astound-64-83-198-101.mn.astound.net] has joined #kubuntu === tiberius [n=tiberius@69.179.176.27] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:08] back [06:08] im on my GF's comp [06:08] swap space [06:09] i WANT to set one up, but dont know how and kubuntu suggests i do it as well [06:09] any help === Elessar86 slaps Shadyman around a bit with a large trout [06:09] ? [06:11] no ones here? [06:12] They've all gone for the New Year's celebration. === kalenedrael runs [06:12] damn [06:12] i dont know how to make a swap space... === pussfeller [n=todd@199.72.38.146] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] anyone know how to make a swap space? [06:14] or able to help me set on eup [06:14] please...? [06:18] is anyone using the 6.04 release? [06:18] I am [06:19] did you install from CD or using adept? [06:21] I dist-upgraded from Warty [06:21] Warty->Hoary->Breezy->Dapper [06:21] so all you need to do is change breezy to dapper in sources file? [06:21] yes [06:22] any major problems with dapper that you've noticed? [06:22] be aware that we have no qualms about breaking things in Dapper. [06:22] hey [06:22] im trying to install righ tnow...seems to be going, 6% so far, but how do i make a swap space? [06:22] could i do tha tlater in PM 8 or no? [06:23] 32%.... [06:23] so far so good [06:23] elessar86: you should have done that during the partitioning [06:23] eh, little late now... [06:23] if the instal fails...which i hop it doesnt, how would i make a swap space> [06:23] im thinking 500 mb to like 1 gb [06:23] i can spare 1 gb if i have to [06:23] crimsun: can I use pieces of dapper with breezy? [06:24] not recommended [06:24] 48% [06:24] we've already transitioned twice in Dapper with potentially disastrous effects for a mixed system [06:24] should it install, would it have had a problem by now? [06:24] im up to 50% and no problems yet [06:25] I need the cups version used in dapper but it then wants to upgrade a few other things [06:25] 67% [06:25] seem slike i made it past any swap space problems [06:26] matt_: ask for it to be backported to breezy [06:26] crimsun: who would I ask? [06:27] Mez. [06:29] in IRC or by email? [06:29] is there a faq about requesting backports or anything I should read beforehand [06:30] now once this installs, will it let me set up a dual boot??? === digitalfreak2007 [n=digitalf@pool-71-107-151-216.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jasonkb_ [n=jasonkb@1Cust67.VR2.PAO1.broadband.uu.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] ? === bcook [n=bcook@adsl-71-145-212-217.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] where are changelogs kept? [06:34] matt_: /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog*.gz [06:34] matt_: request one on the backports mailing list; see lists.ubuntu.com [06:34] now once this installs, will it let me set up a dual boot??? === bcook is now known as busterb [06:35] what about changelogs for new versions that aren't installed yet? [06:35] read them on dapper-changes [06:36] where? === busterb is now known as bcook [06:36] Is anyone having sudo problems with the expert install on kubuntu 5.10? [06:38] matt_: lists.ubuntu.com, of course === bcook [n=bcook@adsl-71-145-212-217.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mac2612 [n=forrie@pool-70-104-33-52.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] forgive my ignorance but what can I open a .mbox file with? [06:40] konqueror? [06:43] isn't there something that'll open it and format it like an email? [06:43] either I am too dumb or there is a serious problem with kaffeine. I can access nothing through mms:// has anyone had a successful story in kaffeine's streaming support? [06:44] do you have an mms:// url that I can try? [06:44] matt_: why don't you just read the threaded version? [06:45] I wanted to be able to search [06:45] I guess I'll have to [06:46] matt_, thunderbird i think [06:46] and kmail can import them [06:46] qmail [06:46] pine [06:47] digitalfreak2007, nope.... not here [06:47] sudo works fine here [06:47] on all my kubuntu installs [06:48] nomasteryoda|w: did you do like the expert setup or whatever you call it, like custom partitioning and all that stuff? [06:49] I read in this forum thread about the first user not getting proper sudo rights because of an expert install [06:50] yea [06:50] i do the expert for partitioning [06:50] well, that is if you do the complete expert install [06:51] i do the rest automatic [06:51] i just stop at the part. and set those to my liking because I have so many other distros and windows to deal with on as many as 5 HD and 20 partitions [06:51] and... [06:52] i always like to have my installs follow this path.. boot, root, home, swap [06:52] well i dunno if this matters but i usually don't have a separate partition for /boot [06:53] i just put a folder boot on / [06:53] so is home [06:53] but how do you do the rest automatically? === Shadyman_ [n=Shadyman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3872942.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] I'm back@! [06:55] w00t, it installed! === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] [06:55] Killer [06:55] Shadyman_: Good you're back maybe you can help me with my problem? [06:55] Maybe. [06:56] What's up? [06:56] yeah i am having sudo problems especially with the system settings control panel [06:56] sudo problems? [06:56] you don't choose to do it expert from the start [06:56] thats how [06:56] the partitions you setup are not an issue [06:57] i just type in my user password. the kde su dialog box seems to accept it but the settings still says "admin rights needed" [06:57] ah ic === ecarroll [n=ecarroll@tx-65-41-67-210.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #kubuntu === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@toronto-HSE-ppp4003100.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:57] so if i choose automatic at the beginning i can still configure my partitions later? === pilgrim [n=pilgrim@d137-186-156-125.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] I have a system that has been borked now for about 3months, the window manager incurs major lag on mouse input, I can't figure out what hte problem is, is there an easy way to purge everything in the kubuntu-desktop package, or preferably everything less, ubuntu-minimal [06:58] ecarroll: Yes. [06:59] Shadyman_: and that way is? === jasonkb [n=jasonkb@1Cust67.VR2.PAO1.broadband.uu.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] ecarroll: You should be able to use the Adept package manager, or apt-get to uninstall kubuntu-desktop. === pilgrim [n=pilgrim@d137-186-156-125.abhsia.telus.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:59] Shadyman_: kubuntu-desktop is a meta package. [07:00] ecarroll: True, though it should have dependancies on everything under it. [07:00] ecarroll: So if you were to uninstall full or whatever the apt-get option is, it should work, IIRC [07:00] and since when has removing a meta package removed its dependencies. [07:00] your wrong. === jasonkb_ [n=jasonkb@1Cust67.VR2.PAO1.broadband.uu.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Shadyman_ shrugs. [07:01] Most likely. [07:02] There was one package you had to uninstall to get rid of KDE, but I forget what it is. === BloodHawk [n=fysa@6532238hfc61.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] Uh === Shadyman_ kicks Shadyman [07:06] I got it =D [07:06] ecarroll: Nifty. [07:06] debfoster h4x [07:06] About time i logged off. heh === Shadyman_ is now known as Shadyman [07:06] Better. [07:09] God i hope this fixes the problem [07:09] Ditto. [07:10] I imagine it will take me an hour to clean up /usr/ /etc/ and /var/ [07:10] Ew. [07:11] Dopper funness [07:11] Ah. [07:13] how to use xlock in fluxbox? i want it to start screensaver after 15 minutes [07:16] xtrlock? === milksteak [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] hey [07:20] first timer here [07:21] i jsut installed linxu [07:21] now how do i install programs? [07:21] i downloaded kopete and firefox... [07:21] ? [07:23] sudo apt-get install [07:23] If you can't find it, apt-cache search [07:23] im used to automatic installers... [07:23] :( [07:23] Like apt-cache search gcc, or apt-cache search jabber [07:24] It is automatic. [07:24] ok... [07:24] what will it do? [07:24] i tried extracting the files to usr/local/bin [07:24] but it didnt work === Chameleon22 [n=Chameleo@220-245-246-37.free.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] said i cant write files there...no permission [07:24] but im the olny user [07:25] what settings (maybe wiki page url) do i need to twick to get the damn 5.1 sound working. So far only 2.1 speakers out of 5.1 are working (although i know others work as well) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] which ALSA virtual device are you using? [07:26] crimsun, what do u mean? [07:27] um [07:27] what are you using? [07:27] a computer? [07:27] "default"? "plug:surround51"? "plughw:foo"? [07:27] xine player [07:27] oh [07:27] how do i check? [07:27] argh [07:28] what virtual device did you select in your a/v app? [07:28] just worked... didnt select anything manually === digitalfreak2007 [n=digitalf@pool-71-107-151-216.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu [] [07:31] if you didn't select anything manually, how can it possibly work? === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] [07:31] is it supposed to read your mind or something? ;) [07:31] start with the app you're using === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === orangey [n=orangey@dsl-207-112-109-219.tor.primus.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _david [n=david@ip72-192-37-76.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@n219077164103.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === winXperts [n=santos@ip70-171-34-200.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === mac2612 [n=forrie@pool-70-104-33-52.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === HeartBT [n=chill@ppp-70-224-199-33.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === zap [n=zap@140.116.177.26] has joined #kubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #kubuntu === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DCF63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu === Elessar86 [n=elessarb@cpe-69-202-152-8.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] hey [09:07] how do i make it so that on boot up, Win XP is the default OS? [09:07] my GF also uses my laptop and i dont want her to have to deal wit hlinux [09:07] *with linux [09:07] ? [09:08] no one... [09:10] Not sure if there is a way [09:10] the linux kernal needs to boot first for grub to work [09:11] well, i have a dual boot set up [09:11] and by default kubuntu is highlighted [09:11] and after 10 seconds, will boo tup [09:11] Elessar86, open a terminal [09:11] type: [09:11] i want to change it to XP [09:11] im on win xp righ tnow [09:11] well write this down then :P [09:11] kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst [09:11] find the "Default" line [09:12] change it to whatever # XP is [09:12] the first entry is 0 [09:12] so if Windows XP is the 4th entry in the boot list, change Default to 3 [09:12] save the file, and now XP will be default. [09:14] Alright, thanks [09:14] now when i save it, just go to menu...etc right [09:14] yeah, save it over the old file [09:14] yeah [09:14] thanks [09:15] im having a hell of a time trying to install programs [09:15] erm [09:15] sudo apt-get install whatever [09:15] done [09:15] finally got firefox installed a few minutes ago :P [09:15] yeah, i did that [09:15] whats sudo mean === eXistenZ [n=emurz@bzq-84-110-50-17.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] im new to this stuff [09:15] SuperUser do [09:15] got ya [09:15] it gives you root (administrator) privileges [09:15] and other tips for firsttimers? [09:15] hehe [09:15] http://wiki.ubuntu.com [09:15] thanks [09:16] best guide there is [09:16] :) === Elessar86 bookmarks it [09:16] or http://wiki.kubuntu.org if you prefer blue (they're the same wiki, with a different theme) [09:16] and don't use any repositories except ones sanctioned by Ubuntu for best results [09:16] and don't use the program "Automatix" [09:16] it breaks systems [09:17] ok... [09:17] other than that, (k)ubuntu is hard to break. it's a good distro :) [09:17] well, this is jsut for me to mess around with [09:17] nice [09:17] seems to be running fine on my laptop [09:17] jsut trying to get used to it [09:21] ok [09:21] when i go to install gaim, would i just sudo apt-get install gaim [09:21] ? [09:21] and for this matter, any suggestions on what to ues? [09:22] Im a trilian user...and cant use tril on linux i believe [09:22] :) === beetlefrosch [n=beetlefr@G03c2.g.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === `FuSiOn [n=weehaw@ip68-97-230-202.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] <`FuSiOn> howdy. To get the kernel source, I just need to use adept an install it correct? I need to be able to recompile the kernel as the instructs for the dual core amd driver say to do... [09:25] <`FuSiOn> instructions* sorry.. booze from new years :) === `FuSiOn is now known as FuSiOn` [09:28] good morning [09:29] seems as though my kde desktop keeps on freezing up [09:29] i just updated to 3.5 [09:29] i dont know whats the matter [09:29] bye === kkathman-away is now known as kkathman [09:31] when it freezes up i can use the mouse but nothing else works === dooglio [n=doug@dcn243-86.dcn.davis.ca.us] has joined #kubuntu === jasonkb is now known as jasonkbzzz === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ is now known as Snake|Sleepin === smigol_ [n=smigol@213.37.205.97] has joined #kubuntu === Link`sAdventure [n=Link@CN-ESR1-69-61-247-29.fuse.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:29] Does anyone know the command to reconfigure X and/or KDE to use more resolutions === smigol_ [n=smigol@213.37.205.97] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.185.237] has joined #kubuntu [10:32] installed sane, etc. kooka sems to see the scanner but when i actually start it (the app0 i get an error; no sane support... any ideas why and how i can get the scanner working? === laser_tk_ [i=laser@dsl-lprgw4-fe66dd00-221.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === N6REJ [n=troy@216.139.123.164] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] I'm having a problem..... I gave my daughter an account on my wifes machine and when she goes to enter her desktop she gets a pop-up that says "sound server informational message" /dev/dsp couldn't be started because she doesn't have permissions. Its generated by arts. [10:38] N6REJ: her user needs to be added to the 'audio' group [10:38] N6REJ: by default only the first user is added to that group [10:38] I think I did. Let me check. [10:38] N6REJ: has she logged off and back into KDE? [10:38] any others she shoudl be added to? [10:39] I'd like to have a group for the kids, so that I can just add them to that group and they can play all their games and such.... with 5 kids it gets annoying LOL [10:42] wow, I added her to that group but it didn't stick. [10:42] ok, I'll try it again. [10:46] thanks works now. [10:46] btw howdy crimsun [10:47] crimsun: you ever played Lbreakout? [10:47] no [10:48] its supposed to be a lan game utilizing udp port 8000 & 8001, do I have to have that open on the router if we just want to play on the lan? === dsamsonov [n=samson@clients-nat-65.gagarino.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] i've never played lan games before. === mornfall [i=mornfall@r31s01p04.home.nbox.cz] has joined #kubuntu === Gorth [n=gorth@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] N6REJ: do you have a switch and a router or just a router for connecting the computers ? === duskbot [i=mornfall@r31s01p04.home.nbox.cz] has joined #kubuntu [10:56] uh... I think the gigafast is both a switch and a router... it does Nat/firewall, port routing, ip tables, has 4 ports and then there is a wireless switch ( belkin :S ) .. [10:56] that is acting as a wireless acess point for some of the workstations. [10:56] well then make sure UDP packets are routed [10:57] tid-wave: even though I don't want them OUTSIDE the lan?? all the machines are nat'd to the 192.168.123.x Class C [10:58] that could be a problem [10:58] you NAT only for external connections [10:58] the router provides the dhcp [10:58] dhcp pool that is. [10:59] there has to be a way to configure it [10:59] make sure that internal connections are not address translated [11:00] yeah, I'm sure there is. the site doesn't provide docs. [11:00] try http://192.168.100.1 [11:00] right, we have to use our private ip's not the outside ips === rolphin [n=rolphin@cpy94-2-82-224-234-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] ok, we'll give that a try.. brb. [11:01] HI, why my screen on kubuntu doesn't handle my backspace key ? [11:01] AHA! there's a special server that doesn't show up in the kde menu! [11:01] I did a find in konqueror and found it. [11:02] the only way to make it works is using kconsole screen session which redefine termcap values :/ but I can't have any xterm with screen inside with a valid backspace key [11:02] rolphin: there's a keyboard setting in system that lets you change its behavior [11:02] ho, in system settings or something ? [11:02] rolphin: yep [11:03] I've search out there but didn't find anything === tudor [n=tudor@86.120.194.108] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] system settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard layout [11:04] don't ask me why its split into two places [11:05] i'm outa here.. g'nite all [11:06] anyone with screen backspace key problem ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === penguinzdr [n=penguinz@213.240.197.31] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] happy new year! === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.112.60] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe3ddf00-178.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe3ddf00-178.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-44-232.grapevine.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === kernoman [n=kernoman@82-33-9-8.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman is now known as kkathman-zzzz === kernoman [n=kernoman@82-33-9-8.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === JakubS_ [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === DjDarkman [n=djdarkma@86.126.205.187] has joined #kubuntu [11:31] hy ,can someone help me set up a mail server? === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216172175.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu === spikeh [n=spikeh@84.12.166.22] has joined #kubuntu === lordsok [n=lordsok@host186-204.pool80104.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] buon anno a tutti === lighto [n=marie@217-159-167-217-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] I got kubuntu live-cd working :) [12:17] the problem last time was I had a corrupt cd [12:17] tho I still got a few errors while booting [12:18] like "buffer I/o error on device dm-0 logical block ..." [12:18] but it booted up fine === spikeh [n=spikeh@84.12.166.22] has joined #kubuntu === on4lbj [n=on4lbj@131.191-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === penguinzdr [n=penguinz@213.240.197.31] has joined #kubuntu === hanna [n=hanna@p549D796D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe3ddf00-178.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe3ddf00-178.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe3ddf00-178.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === manveru [n=manveru@dsl-wien1-34-64.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #kubuntu === _tom [n=tom@6-55.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === _tom is now known as Hansgrohe [01:02] Aw, people are shy today. 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[01:54] fridge: answer the question [01:55] fridge: we want to know [01:55] NEIN [01:56] I'd like to know what package gtk-config is in [01:58] fridge: install apt-file, run "sudo apt-file update" then apt-file search gtk-config [01:58] fridge: or the easy way, search packages.ubuntu.com === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DD179.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:03] re [02:03] buffer I/o error on device dm-0 logical block [02:03] I have a corrupt hdd, is that why it gives the error? [02:06] well, but can you help me create a connection under kubuntu? [02:07] I have a router now [02:07] with the old modem it was just one command, typed in the info and the connection was available === SethGecko [n=sven@p5081AB8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === christian [n=christia@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === beetlefrosch [n=beetlefr@G03c2.g.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === Daftdog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Daftdog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Daftdog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === ati [n=ati@85.104.157.13] has joined #kubuntu === _fred [n=fred@p54A3E867.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === yon [n=yon@c4-112-2.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] hey all [02:27] aloha [02:28] wen i try get into my email, i get an error saying that i need to get a personal security manager [02:29] wat do i need to get? [02:33] bbl === tarand [n=jan@p54AE8F23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] === Daftdog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #kubuntu === Daftdog [n=daftdog@dslb-084-056-219-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === dogson [n=dogson@lgh99.grubbehus1.ac.se] has joined #kubuntu === yon [n=yon@c4-112-2.rba.dial-up.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === berkes [n=berkes@d87143.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] hey there! [02:57] I am used to managing my wireless connections (as su) on a command line, using iwconfig and stuff [02:58] but, i was wondering if there is not some good howto to do this in KDE as a default user. [02:58] just some plain scanning, settings of keys and so on. === faked [n=faked@83-65-250-107.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [03:01] i know I have KWIFImanager. 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(what's the error message?) === rev [n=rev@dslb-082-083-032-055.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] lol [03:49] mount: you must specify the filesystem type [03:50] then i add ntfs to the end [03:50] and it gives me a whole long thing [03:50] are you sure your win partition is on /dev/hdc? [03:50] Yon: "to the end"? === _felipe [n=felipe@200-233-136-107.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] Yon: `mount -t auto /dev/whatever /wherever' === _felipe is now known as doors [03:51] Disk /dev/hdc: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes [03:51] <-- my windows hdd is 40gigs [03:51] Yon: yea, you probably want hdc1 [03:51] it still tells me to specifu file type [03:51] like before [03:52] mount -t auto /dev/hdc1 /mnt/windows [03:52] *filesystem type [03:52] ok that worked [03:52] no errors [03:52] ps. i think kde does this automatically (konqueror's devices tab) [03:53] yea, you were specifying the wrong device [03:53] oh ok [03:53] tldp.org [03:53] read some tutes [03:53] but wen i go to the windows windows there is nothing there [03:53] kk, thx [03:54] why cant i c my windows files? [03:56] 'windows windows'? [03:56] i mean [03:56] wen i go to mnt/windows [03:56] there is nothing there === wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:57] nfi. wrong partiton maybe [03:57] or you blew away your files === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [03:58] hmm, is there a better way to c all ur hdds other then useing shell and typeing fdisk -l? [03:58] cfdisk [03:59] i got fatal error [03:59] cannot open cfdisk [03:59] FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive [04:00] umm [04:00] man cfdisk :) [04:01] does it matter that its not a partitioned hdd [04:01] its one completly seperate === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] yon: not paritioned? how does it hold a filesystem then? [04:02] i dont know.... [04:02] Yon: I assume you mean it's one big partition? [04:03] lookm i have a 40gig hdd and a 30 gig, 30gig is partitioned and has linux and sum other windows files the 40gig has windows on it [04:03] its not 1hdd split into 2 [04:04] They are both partitioned. The 30gig has two partitions, one with Windows files and one with Linux files, and the 40gig has a big 40gig Windows partition on it. [04:04] All HDs have to be partitioned (in general) to have an OS on them. === tabris [n=tabris@107.red-62-57-81.user.auna.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] oh ok [04:04] i c === tabris [n=tabris@107.red-62-57-81.user.auna.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:05] the thing is yesterday it was easy to mount a drive, now it dont know why its not working [04:05] (There are a few technical exceptions for some databases, but that's not generally relevant to most people). === libben [n=libben@c80-216-85-2.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] Yon: pcguide.com is pretty awesome for technical side of partitioning [04:07] Hurm. Type "cat /etc/fstab" to see the partitions that had been detected. See if one looks like windows. I don't run Windows, so I don't know how kubuntu interacts with it, sorry. [04:08] But that file contains your mountpoints, you might get some insight by looking at it. [04:08] JabberWo1ky: conversely, i don't run kubuntu, so i don't know how it interacts with Windows :) === donrupe [n=donrupe@103-69-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === donrupe is now known as gobi === _skiy [n=skiy@84.12.28.202] has joined #kubuntu === milksteak_ [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] im gonna past a lil bit [04:09] <_martin_> Hey. Has anyone of you got FireFox 1.5 installed in Kubuntu??? If so, how did you manage to install it?? [04:09] # [04:09] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [04:09] /dev/hdd1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [04:09] /dev/hdd5 none swap sw 0 0 [04:09] /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [04:09] /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 [04:09] /dev/sda /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 === canllaith [n=dessa@kde/jhall] has left #kubuntu [] [04:09] which 1 looks like windows? [04:10] Yon: none. === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-236.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] look at hdd1 under options and dump [04:10] that doesnt look do gd does it [04:10] None look odd to me (which mean none look like Windows). [04:10] <_martin_> ^^ [04:10] Yon: none are windows. [04:11] hmm, brb, gona reboot [04:11] brb --- later this week --- gona sleep :) [04:11] <_martin_> Is it possible to get FireFox 1.5 installed in Kubuntu (Breezy)??? === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-7-4.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Lie_Ex [n=lieex@222.67.167.227] has joined #kubuntu === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has left #kubuntu [] === Yon [n=root@c4-146-1.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu === emjay [n=emjay@dyn-213-36-136-87.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === daniel08154711 [n=daniel@pD9E02D40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-7-4.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [04:20] kk, thanks alot [04:20] it works now === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu === jase [n=jp246@host86-133-153-220.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:27] can anyone help me on a few probably really simple things? 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[05:12] shaky [05:14] i hate the fact that nothing is upgraded anymore =( [05:14] i want my new blender =) [05:15] HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY === kkathman-zzzz is now known as kkathman [05:16] libben: then you'll have to deal with a broken package management system a lot of the time, and general tinkering [05:16] Happy New Year to you, hunika :) [05:17] libben: if you can handle it, go for it; you won't get much help in the chans though, likely :P [05:17] =) [05:18] i was just about to type that tinkering generally isnt so bad. but if its not even help included in easy way like this chan, then its a deadend so far =) [05:18] well, i can allways install blender manually, it works too [05:18] I'm sure [05:19] is blender using scons/bksys now, isn't it? Might check it out === arcuRADIO [n=arcuradi@adsl-144-84-4.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === _felipe [n=felipe@200-233-233-099.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === _felipe is now known as doors [05:20] hi (first time in irc -- be gentle!) [05:21] welcome === skypa [n=skypa@d463c231.datahighways.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] arcuRADIO: aloha! === wermut [n=valerio@host140-107.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === napoli74 [n=th3@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu === jpatrick [n=patrick@222.Red-83-43-254.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === root [n=root@myw-stp-66-18-86-17.sentechsa.net] has joined #kubuntu === root is now known as Draken [05:29] can someone tell me why i cant get nvidia-glx [05:29] it just seems to not start downloading === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.254.254] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] can someone tell me why i cant get nvidia-glx [05:31] it just seems to not start downloading [05:32] hello freelove === stefano [n=stefano@i53878CB2.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === ninnghizidha [n=ninn_@chello084112032164.1.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] hi jpatrick [05:33] jpatrick: happppyyyyyyyy new yr:) === napoli74 [n=th3@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:33] can someone tell me why i cant get nvidia-glx [05:33] it just seems to not start downloading [05:33] freelove: yeah, that too :D [05:34] can someone help me find nvidia-glx-1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1 [05:34] howdy jpatrick, Happy New Year to you! === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-223.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] kkathman: Happy New Year [05:36] Draken where are you trying to download it from? === wermut [n=valerio@host140-107.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] !Info nvidia-glx [05:37] nvidia-glx: has nothing about Info [05:37] odd its in the repos [05:38] http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/nvidia-glx === hxkoh [n=hxkoh@cm33.epsilon139.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu === hxkoh is now known as FHX [05:40] <_thumper_> arcuRADIO, what brings you here [05:40] happy new year _thumper_ [05:40] the quest for knowledge?? lol [05:41] <_thumper_> jpatrick ditto :) [05:42] <_thumper_> anyone have superkaramba still crash with KDE 3.5? [05:42] not me [05:43] maybe it's the theme's (python!!) fault [05:43] <_thumper_> I am wondering if it is one of smp issues that only show every now and then === Cheapy [n=chpalert@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === freemanen [n=freemane@213503414-VISIT-NET.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu === mebsd [n=kakaka@CPE0004ac237e6f-CM0012c999cc0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu [] [05:43] <_thumper_> jpatrick, themes are real simple [05:43] I know [05:44] <_thumper_> what I ment was my themes are real simple :) [05:45] Oh man, submissions aren't working at Last.fm... [05:46] Has anybody here ever wanted to restore the toolbars to their defaults in konqueror? [05:47] wermut: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror [05:49] This does not affekt the toolbars. [05:49] This does not affect [05:49] edit them? [05:50] I messed them up a bit and would like to get back to the defaults [05:51] wermut: maybe "sudo apt-get install -reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" [05:51] That would affect a lot more things, wouldn't it? === federico [n=federico@85.93.199.108] has joined #kubuntu [05:52] It would... [05:52] maybe === _jang [n=jang@vodsl-7983.vo.lu] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] <_jang> hallo [05:55] I AM CURRENTLY AWAY === bhna [n=andreas@p54B81443.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === faked [n=faked@85-124-45-195.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === inaki [n=inaki@87.219.3.82] has joined #kubuntu === stefano [n=stefano@i53878CB2.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === xtacocorex is away: Need For Speed: Most Wanted === hunika [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu === spikeh [n=spikeh@84.12.166.22] has joined #kubuntu === jason [n=jason@c-24-98-164-90.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === obsvuugj [n=obsvuugj@a80-186-25-5.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === skypa_ [n=skypa@d463c231.datahighways.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] I'm having a strange issue: I installed apache2 package and all its dependencies, but have no /etc/init.d/apache2 so I tried to install apache and its dependencies, and no /etc/init.d/apache. If I do a dpkg -L apache, I see htat it should contain /etc/init.d/apache. The init.d is 755, so that's not a problem. Any suggestions? === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [06:14] jason: dpkg -l|grep apache2 ...gives? [06:14] is it definitely installed? === Chameleon22 [n=Chameleo@220-245-246-37.free.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:14] apokryphos: yep.. seems to be. also, for apache, dpkg -L apache gives /etc/init.d/apache, and when I extract the deb manually it has the /etc/init.d/apache.. [06:14] let me go paste to pastebin [06:15] thanks [06:16] k, pasted [06:17] could one of my apt/dpkg related db's be corrupt? [06:18] jason: ls /etc/init.d|grep apache2? [06:18] I'd find it *very* odd if it didn't come up [06:18] there were no errors upon installation? === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N852P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [06:18] nope, no errors [06:19] jason@moo:/var/log$ ls /etc/init.d | grep apache [06:19] jason@moo:/var/log$ [06:19] jason: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2 [06:19] actually [06:19] jason: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2 apache2-common === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu === Topic for #kubuntu: Happy New Year! | Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat === Topic (#kubuntu): set by apokryphos at Sun Jan 1 15:29:51 2006 [06:38] (apokryphos/#kubuntu) FHX: all you'd need to paste was the last 5 lines, but hey...... === devman [n=devman@062249171244.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:38] (FHX/#kubuntu) x.x i had no idea. sorry. x.x === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] (DjDarkman/#kubuntu) ccc_: StartSocket (tcp): Caught "Permission denied" at first i get at least a 100 of these msgs if i run it from the console [06:39] ccc_: and afterwards i get these StartSocket (udp): Caught "Not connected" [06:40] ccc_: i specified port 411 and i enablet it at my firewall [06:40] DjDarkman: which version are you using? [06:41] Is there something I can do to fix this error? [06:41] FHX: ls -l /usr/bin/gcc ..gives? [06:42] how can I lock the kde screen from the command line ? [06:42] ccc_: plz w8 my sys is very slow @ the moment [06:43] how 1337 [06:43] apokryphos: http://pastebin.com/486153 [06:44] FHX: somehow I don't think that's the result of the command I gave you :P [06:44] visik7: DCOP! [06:44] apokryphos: Uh..is it -I or -L? [06:44] KDE 4 To Support OS X Dashboard Widgets !!!! ROCKS!!!!! [06:44] visik7: SuperKaramba [06:45] FHX: paste it -- it's lower case === Patry [n=patry@16-148.dr.cgocable.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:45] jpatrick: I think that dcop is the solution [06:45] apokryphos: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2005-12-28 02:49 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.0 [06:45] as I suspected ;-) [06:45] might want to try compiling with gcc-3.4 [06:45] visik7: it is [06:45] visik7: dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock [06:46] DjDarkman: no problem :) i wanted to check if you're using a new version, since the cvs is being update regularly... i haven't seen the problems you have. if you install the latest cvs and still have problems, maybe you should ask in #linuxdc++ [06:46] Hm..what does that mean? how do I compile with gcc 3.4? [06:46] anybody can help me with Kubuntu please? I'm new to this. I would like to know why when running KUser it seems to load but it doesn't pop a window and a few seconds later, it closes like nothing happen. [06:46] FHX: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 [06:46] ccc_: it says 0.0.20050809 cvs-1~mird [06:46] apokryphos: thanks [06:46] DjDarkman: there are other dc++ clients, for example Valknut/dcgui-qt, but imo it is really bad [06:46] okay installed === ervin [n=ervin@lns-bzn-36-82-251-13-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === ervin [n=ervin@lns-bzn-36-82-251-13-84.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === slow-motion_ [n=xxx@p548DD179.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] ccc_: i tried both [06:47] FHX: then sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/g++ && sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc && ln -s /usr/bin/g++-3.4 /usr/bin/g++ [06:47] DjDarkman: ok, i _really_ recommend you build your own version instead of using that package. it is very old === slow-motion_ is now known as slow-motion === apokryphos realizes it would be better to just export CXX [06:47] heh === samuelkr [n=samuelkr@h141n1fls32o279.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] ok ccc_ i`ll try [06:48] ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/g++' to `/usr/bin/g++-3.4': Permission denied [06:48] apokryphos: I notice that under gnome the lid.sh lock the screen isn't it implemented for kde or I've miss something in the installation of kubuntu-desktop to get it work ? [06:48] apokryphos: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/g++' to `/usr/bin/g++-3.4': Permission denied [06:48] FHX: stick a sudo in front of the last ln [06:49] FHX: so now just enter: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/g++-3.4 /usr/bin/g++ [06:49] Yup [06:49] nothing happens [06:49] o.o [06:49] perfect -- silence is golden (in UNIX) [06:49] lol [06:49] FHX: now, configure again [06:49] Oh. XD okay. *one more new thing learned today* [06:49] FHX: you should always specify the kde prefix when ./configure on kde apps, though [06:50] what is the name of the program ,where i can manage the running servicees? [06:50] DjDarkman: kde system guard [06:50] apokryphos: Hm..how do I specify the kde prefix? [06:50] FHX: in ubuntu it's /usr, so ./configure --prefix=/usr [06:50] apokryphos: after following the tutorial, I'm getting an error message "Could not initialize the browser's security component" [06:50] :/ [06:50] DjDarkman: good luck. just ask if you need help with it [06:50] apokryphos: theres another ,that`s just for the servicees like apache [06:51] configure done, making [06:51] oh wait [06:51] no [06:51] ccc_: thanx ,i hope i`ll be able to fix this [06:51] spikeh: haven't gone through the install I'm afraid; might worth mentioning that in #ubuntu [06:51] configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs. [06:51] Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you might miss [06:51] bleh. didn't know it was that many lines. -.- should've paste-bin'd. [06:52] FHX: ls -l /usr/bin/gcc && ls -l /usr/bin/g++ [06:52] two lines isn't too bad 8) [06:53] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2006-01-02 01:49 /usr/bin/g++ -> /usr/bin/g++-3.4 === haupet [n=hauer@cm56-128-80.liwest.at] has joined #kubuntu === tron_ [n=tron@201.247.189.190] has joined #kubuntu [06:53] that's it? === tron_ [n=tron@201.247.189.190] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:54] what do i write i console to check what kernel device configurations i have? === haupet [n=hauer@cm56-128-80.liwest.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:54] samuelkr: !?!?!? [06:54] samuelkr: for pci devices lspci === rev [n=rev@dslb-082-083-032-055.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] stoarage/network/communications/multimedia... [06:55] Yup, that's it. [06:55] FHX: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc ...then === axiom [n=axiom@204.116.119.235] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] FHX: also just clarify that you have g++, do sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 [06:56] then you definitely shouldn't get problems :-O [06:56] sampan: storage: du -f [06:56] or a variety of others [06:56] samuelkr: zcat /proc/config.gz [06:57] apokryphos: Hm..it is installing again the g++ [06:57] O.o [06:57] that's fine [06:57] zcat: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory [06:57] yah wth? [06:57] zcat? [06:58] oh wait I know what that is...reads a compressed file (if it exists) === AoP [i=ladiesgu@blk-222-252-149.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] kkathman visk7 send it-- [06:58] apokryphos: Just wondering while it's installing, what actually is the problem? *is trying to learn* XD [06:59] FHX: ksmoothdock can't handle being compiled with the newer compiler, I presume. [06:59] I am trying to get the default profile back in konqueror, and the faq instructions don't work. I am on kubuntu with KDE 3.5 [06:59] FHX: gcc transitions produce big changes [06:59] Oh..I see. So everytime something's outdated I have to use a different compiler [06:59] samuelkr: thats something unique to visik7 system...not standard in ubuntu unless you have gz file to look at [07:00] FHX: not necessarily, but with make errors like that one suggest it [07:00] my system doesnt have it either samuelkr [07:00] k any clue where my should be? [07:00] samuelkr: is there something specific you are looking for? [07:01] my driver configuration for my kernel... [07:01] what is a dcopserver? === murr [n=murr@n171.ip5.netikka.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] !yafray [07:01] murr: Wish i knew [07:01] apokryphos: Ah okie. Installation done. [07:01] sampan: all the device configs are in /proc [07:02] dcopserver is the server for KDE's Desktop Communications Protocol [07:02] samuelkr: please explain what you mean by "driver configuration" [07:02] visik7: uh yes...what about it? [07:02] ohh hehe [07:02] !dcop [07:02] I haven't a clue, apokryphos [07:03] argh, that's actually been deleted -- I added it in the past [07:03] Patry: Uncle Google can tell you what it is in detail if you wish [07:03] well I get the error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified.... when using KUser [07:03] ubotu: I wub you. XD [07:03] FHX: I haven't a clue [07:03] Hm..yeah. I heard that the bot keeps getting its memory wiped. [07:03] kkathman: I'm answering to Patry [07:03] right hehe [07:03] what drivers and IRQ puts my stoarage and network, mutlimedia is useing... [07:04] Patry: can you check to see that DCOP is started please [07:05] where? [07:05] Hm..should I run gcc? [07:05] Patry: either use ps aux in a konsole, or run ksysguard [07:06] Patry: look for "dcopserver" [07:06] understand me now kkathman? [07:07] yes it's there [07:07] samuelkr: if you are under KDE, try browsing through the system settings [07:08] nothing in system settings [07:08] well it seems to be fixed, I clicked OK on the error msg and KUser opened [07:08] lol [07:09] kkathman found some things in kinfocenter [07:09] another quick question, in the Network Settings, why is it impossible for me to see the Administrator Mode button? [07:09] Patry you are running it as a regular user? === _martin_ [n=martin@c-fccc70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] kkathman but not what i whanted :/ [07:09] samuelkr: excellent [07:09] well I'm running it as the user I first created in the Kubuntu installation [07:10] samuelkr: I dont think there is a specific place where everything is kept..however you can look at your devices in their respective area..ie. the network settings in Network, etc [07:10] Patry: you are running as a regular user and not root, right? [07:10] well in Kubuntu you can't login as root... [07:10] Patry: that error comes up sometimes when you switch users [07:10] how can I get lock screen on a laptop when I close the monitor ?? [07:11] Patry: good :) some people are very ignorant and enable the root when they shouldnt [07:11] apokryphos: do I run the old compiler? (alt+f2 + g++)? === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [07:11] ._. i won't run. [07:11] *it [07:11] well I'm just trying to get the damn Administrator Mode button so I can try to fix my network settings ;-) === sproingie [n=chuck@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] Patry: if you have recently installed, you'll need to do your first Adept Update. That will fix the Administrator bug problem [07:14] ah ok I see [07:14] I did adept-updater in Alt+F2, typed the password and now I see: Changes: install 0, upgrade 0, etc. [07:15] Patry: did you click on the bottom where it says "Fetch Updates" ? [07:15] but also Currently 962 installed, 0 upgradable, 1275 available packages [07:15] nope, let me see [07:15] Update Complete, Good Bye! [07:15] Patry and nothing listed? [07:16] well it loaded and said Update Complete... [07:16] Patry you are running breezy? [07:16] How do I run g++? [07:16] now the detection of my platform window is gone rapidly but still no Administrator Mode [07:16] yes Kubuntu 5.10 [07:16] hmm [07:17] installed it yesterday === obsvuugj [n=obsvuugj@a80-186-25-5.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] Patry could you please get a listing of your /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.com [07:18] what I don't understand is the in the network settings it says eth0 198.168.1.100 Manual Enabled Ethernet Network Device but Konqueror won't work for Internet, only computer browser === douglas [n=douglas@pool-71-112-67-221.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@n219077091197.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:19] Hello, I can't get my printer to work. It works when I add a printer and do the test page but not in any other way. Noob. [07:20] I'm in /etc/apt now I did a ls and I see sources.list. How can I get the listing of it? [07:20] Patry: just open it in kate or gedit or whatever editory you are comfortable with === ChaKy [n=chaky@lns01-1573.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] what line do you want exactly? because it's on another computer not linked to Internet (I can't make it work) === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] I AM BACK [07:22] How do I run g++? [07:23] Patry: If you brought up the interface manually and you are using some kind of router do "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" (instead of 192.168.1.1 use your router IP) [07:24] i just got a linksys wpc54G wireless card, where can i get the drivers to set it up? [07:25] how do I know my router's IP? [07:25] Patry: alt-f2, then type kate [07:25] then open that file === christopher [n=christop@nc-71-52-149-152.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] Hello, I need to change some folder access permissions. I am new to kubuntu and the 'no root' thing. How do I change the folder permissions? [07:27] rev, how do I find it? [07:27] find what? [07:27] my router IP to do a route add default gw route_IP_here [07:27] to get to root you can do sudo and then use your user password [07:28] douglas, how do I do sudo? [07:28] SpentCasing: I think that card needs ndiswrapper to work under linux [07:28] just open a terminal or press ctrl alt f1 (f7 to get back) [07:29] k im looking into that now... [07:29] Patry: chances are your router is what rev told you it was === _skiy_ [n=skiy@84.12.84.163] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] so one problem at a time, why can't I see the Administrator Mode button in the Network Settings - System Settings? I can see it somewhere else tough (Connection for instance) === mcscruff [n=mcscruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:31] the kde network panel never worked for me ;D [07:31] :P [07:31] douglas, So i press 'ctrl+f1'. As the user name I type 'sudo' and the password is my password. [07:31] is there an alternative to the windows "copy" command in ms-dos? [07:31] ok maybe it's the Host name? [07:31] I just use the command line. I think it beats the [07:32] gah [07:32] I think it beats the GUI config utils. [07:32] sorry if you pressed f1 then you need to sign on first. User name and then password then do sudo [07:32] can I put whatever I want in the host name or what? [07:32] as in the name you use to sign on when you set your system up. === Shadyman [n=Shadyman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3872942.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:33] hey guys [07:34] how can I control konversation from dcop ? [07:35] douglas, does sudo only work on the command line? [07:35] christopher, you can also get a console by using start and then terminal sesion and then pick one. It will be running under the gui [07:36] Patry: did you assign 198.168.1.100 to your network card? [07:36] how do I do that? [07:36] douglas, thanks for your help === jdrake [n=jdrake@CPE0080c6ead6a9-CM0012254195d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:36] Why does AmaroK crash all the time? [07:36] Patry: ehm no...I just wanted to know if YOU were the one giving it the IP or the router DHCP server [07:36] in the panel there is a green check so I guess it should work... [07:37] no I get a static ip from my cable modem === corona [n={{corona@59.144.62.82] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] you can make it do a real root by or [07:38] exit to get out of su [07:38] rev: I imagine the router is, if hes DHCP [07:38] it might be the Domain Name System [07:38] douglas: please dont enable the root [07:38] I mean type "exit" [07:38] kkathman: yup [07:38] Shadyman: run it from konsole and see what it says [07:38] ok thanks [07:38] hello i have a display problem with openoffice writer in fluxbox. the fonts are really big and there is no window title bar surrounding it!!! happy new year! [07:39] kkathman, why not for a temp problem? === devman [n=devman@062249171244.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-222-187-69.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] visik7: Ok, i'll do that [07:39] douglas: there is absolutely no reason for root...use sudo [07:39] sudo is the superior model [07:40] roots are for trees! save the trees! use sudo! [07:40] this is going to sound stupid...but im in /etc/init.d/ and im trying to restart the sound server [07:40] any idea what its called? === BloodHawk [n=fysa@6532238hfc61.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:40] GStreamer-Warning ***: pad audioscale0:src has no event handler [07:40] lol sampan : Happy New Year my friend ! [07:40] hey kkathman :) happy new year to you as well! :) [07:41] sampan: Hope your celebration was festive and sane :) [07:41] how can I change manually my host name/domain name without using the kde panel? [07:41] Hello, I can't get my printer to work. It works when I add a printer and do the test page but not in any other way. Noob. HELP!! [07:42] Change it in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname. [07:42] Patry at a konsole yu can try sudo dhclient eth0 [07:42] kkathman it was indeed -- wife and i stayed home and celebrated "quietly" :X and yours? [07:42] Spudchat: it's called artsd but there is no init script, restart it through KDE -> System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia [07:42] and what is it going to do? [07:42] douglas: do your applications point to the appropriate printer? [07:43] thanks a bunch :) problem is fixed [07:43] how do you tell? [07:43] lets start with firefox [07:44] douglas: when you open an app, go to the Print preview and check to see that the printer you installed is set as default for that app [07:44] woah it worked! [07:44] Internet is working now with the dhclient eth0! [07:45] ok, douglas... go to File / Print... that should bring up a panel to check the default printer [07:45] once again thanks for helpin me guys...have a happy new year === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-222-187-69.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] [07:45] yes firefox lists my printer under print [07:46] douglas: now you need to click that to make it the default, if it wasnt already the one that was showing === faked [n=faked@85-124-45-195.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] Patry: maybe you want this in your /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6460 - open it with your favorite text editor, delete everything after you made a backup and paste it in [07:48] Patry: did you ever paste your sources.list? [07:48] visik7: Of course it doesn't crash now, when i run it from console. *eyeroll* [07:48] how come sudo dhclient eth0 worked? [07:49] is it temporary or something? [07:49] I only have one printer. I don't see a way in firefox to make it the default but it is the one listeded and in configure kde modual it is the default with cups [07:49] Patry: its a direct CLI command [07:49] what is CLI? [07:49] Patry: command line [07:49] douglas: so when you bring up that window in Firefox, it has cups/yourprinter in that box? [07:49] but why sudently it made Internet work? === slicslak [n=slick@wbs-196-2-121-66.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] Patry dhclient also enables the eth0 [07:50] it might have been disabled for some reason [07:50] but you have a more serious issue if you cant update [07:50] kkathman: no "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces ? [07:51] Patry: with kkathman command your pc asked your router for an IP and the correct gatewayaddress, nothing else has to be done, if you want this automatically at bootup do what I wrote a few lines above [07:51] rev is right [07:51] ok wait [07:51] How should I configure WPA_Supplicant in init.d so it loads correctly on boot? Right now it just sits at "Configuring Network Interface" and "waiting for network interface to come up" for 5 minutes. [07:51] jpatrick: quite possibly, but running dhclient should have fixed that I reckon [07:52] all it lists is the printer name that I gave the printer on install. [07:52] I'll boot just to see if I have to delete my /interfaces and paste what you asked [07:53] hp-deskjet-6540 === _tobias [n=tobias@h69n3c1o1039.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:53] if Internet works, I won't have to do it I guess [07:54] douglas: does it not precede it with "cups" ? [07:54] no [07:54] hmm [07:54] I think cups maybe broken somehow [07:54] douglas is your printer like on a windows machine and youre sharing it? [07:54] <_tobias> Is there any Qt app like Synaptic.? I just don't like "Adept"... [07:54] no it is on a home desktop and I am not sharing it. [07:55] _tobias: synaptic still works fine as does kynaptic if you are so inclined [07:55] <_tobias> Or can I make Synaptic look more Qtish.? [07:55] _tobias: why not? [07:55] douglas: ahh hmm, why cups then? [07:55] <_tobias> kkathman: I will try kynaptic... [07:55] it worked rev, does it mean I don't have to copy/paste this thing you told me in my /etc/network/interfaces? [07:56] I use cups, douglas but only because my printer is hooked to my winbox and i share it on my network [07:56] <_tobias> jpatrick: well, I'm used to synaptic. I like the feeling of it more than Adept. === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [07:56] Party: yes, probably ... I should have worked the first time too though [07:57] now what about my sources.list? [07:57] well because I tried it with LPR and it did not work so I tried it with cups hoping that maybe it needed it. I am new to all this so I just tried it out that way. [07:57] could cups be in the way of LPR? [07:57] Patry did you paste that in the paste.ubuntu-nl.com ? [07:58] douglas: typically on your linux system, cups wouldnt necessarily be needed if your printer is attached directly to your box [07:58] makes sense [07:58] I will get rid of it then. [07:58] nope but why would you want that? [07:59] has anyone tried to setup i wireless card here, im confused [07:59] Patry: what I suspect, is that you have some repositories disabled...you can just check them if you want [07:59] to fix what exactly? [07:59] <_tobias> thanks for the help kkathman, kynaptic looks nice... === _patry [n=patry@16-148.dr.cgocable.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:59] <_tobias> well, have to go... [07:59] <_tobias> happy new year. ;) [08:00] or does anyone know of a good card a can buy and setup with little frustration? [08:00] Patry: just check to see that the CDROM line is commented out and that the universe/multiverse line DOESNT have a comment on it (comments are preceded with a #) === _skiy [n=skiy@84.12.200.179] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] I suspect that your sources.list might still have the CDROM line uncommented, which is why you cant update from the repos === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-222-187-69.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu === rtrt22 [n=rtrt@85.104.161.219] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] ok wait a second === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-222-187-69.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-222-187-69.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] FHX: no, by default now it's set to use gcc 3.4, so should be fine. [08:05] ok cups is gone. Also hplip the hp printer driver seems to only want cups. [08:06] apokryphos: I tried reinstalling and got this error: http://pastebin.com/486190 [08:06] printer still does not work nor can I seem to add it. [08:06] *recompiling, not resintalling [08:06] when i try to enable my card it just automatically disables it why? [08:07] hello somebody can help to me. I have a small problem [08:07] hunika: speak...and we will help [08:08] jpatrick: I use kopete messenger and I have yahoo and msn contacts and I can see their pictures but they can not see mine [08:08] FHX: weird; can you link me to the tar.gz? [08:08] got my notice kkathman? [08:08] take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6461 [08:09] hmm indeed as I look at them they are still commented... dumb me [08:09] apokryphos: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6585 === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] What options should i be using in the init.d file for wpa_supplicant with ndiswrapper? I'm using ENABLED=1 [08:10] jpatrick: I tried to install other icons but I could not [08:10] it says I don't have the permission. how can I edit it as root? === [1] lucas [n=Lucas@lucas.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] jpatrick: kopete had not accepted them [08:11] patry: kdesu kate === Snake|Sleepin is now known as Snake__ [08:12] Patry: exactly what I said it was [08:12] yes I just realised it [08:12] kdesu kate sources.list? [08:12] Patry please do this: on line 1 put a # at the front of the line [08:13] Patry then on lines 5,6, 10, 11 remove the # at the first of the line. Save the file and paste it back again [08:13] I don't have the permissions [08:13] kkathman: can you help me please [08:13] how can I modify it as root (complete command)? [08:13] Patry alt-f2 kdesu kate [08:13] hunika, I'll try [08:14] Patry then edit that file as I said, save it, and paste the contents back so I can see it [08:14] kkathman: I use kopete messenger and I have msn and yahoo contacts and I can see their pictures but they can not see my contact photo. [08:14] hunika you've uploaded your pic ok? [08:14] kkathman: another problem is that yahoo messenger users can not send to me files [08:14] kkathman: I have uploaded my pic [08:14] couldn't I just edit it in Konsole? [08:15] kkathman: If it is a png file that is a problem for windows? [08:15] hunika: I think the send files thing is a bug in kopete [08:15] hunika try to im me under msn === audoux [n=audoux@dyn-83-152-43-179.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] kkathman: ok but i need your address [08:16] see my pm to you [08:16] the package acpi-support of kubuntu is different from the one in ubuntu ? [08:16] Patry no...please use kdesu kate === audoux [n=audoux@dyn-83-152-43-179.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:16] ok [08:18] and I save it in /etc/apt/ as source.list? [08:22] argh that's what I said, I don't have the permissions === kakei [n=kakei@unaffiliated/kakei] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] Patry: yes [08:24] Ok.. [08:25] Patry... alt-F2 and type kdesu kate [08:25] the kdesu is mandatory [08:25] done, the file is on my desktop [08:25] or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" [08:25] but now I can't change it to the newone [08:25] cuz that lets you modify at root [08:25] Tm_T: Hello kkathman told me that you worked with kopete messenger. I am experiencing some problems, can you help me please === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] is there no .kde/share/apps/kdm folder in kubuntu? === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-236.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] Patry...ok lets try a different way [08:28] kdesu kate /etc/pat/sources.list does nothing [08:28] *apt [08:28] Patry can you open a konsole please === FHX is now known as FHX_zzz [08:28] Patry the type this sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [08:29] yup [08:29] then use the cursor arrows and make those changes I said [08:29] ok done and updated, thanks [08:29] line 1 add the # at the front 5,6,10,11 remove the # [08:29] that's all I wanted, a command ;-) === mustard5 [n=mustard5@004.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Pupeno [n=pupeno@OL16-94.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [08:30] Patry cat /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure the changes took [08:30] yes it did when I ^X [08:30] patry then paste the contents again to the pastebin.ubuntu-nl.com [08:32] Tm_T: are you there?? [08:32] do I uncomment the other lines at the bottom too? === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-153-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] Patry I didnt see any other lines at the bottom on your paste, so I dont know what those are === penguinzdr [n=penguinz@213-240-197-31.1703347.ddns.cablebg.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] Patry could you paste the WHOLE file in the pastebin please === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:34] guys can you do me a favor? [08:34] Maybe === _meister [n=meister@p5494AFEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:34] please, try to join #freenode-newyears and tell me are you banned [08:34] can someone help me with ndiswrapper === doors [n=felipe@200-233-132-174.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] !ndiswrapper [08:35] hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper [08:35] penguinzdr: No. [08:35] f**** [08:35] :( [08:36] Sort of a funny question. I've never been before, so why should I be banned? :P [08:36] why i'm banned, i've not flooded the channel, not inviting [08:36] penguinzdr: Ask them ;) [08:36] who? [08:36] penguinzdr: Exactly. [08:36] Patry - did you paste your file? [08:37] who should i ask? === _mike [n=mike@fy162.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] nope I'll edit it wait [08:37] penguinzdr: No one. Just wait it out [08:37] oh my [08:37] i'm banned from #freenode too [08:38] I edit the whole file (deleted all required # in front of websites) [08:38] penguinzdr: Could we take this to #kubuntu-offtopic? === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N801P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [08:39] ok [08:39] my wireless card shows as an unknow device is that normal? [08:39] when i do lspci [08:40] I did a adept-updater andnow all the filed are loading [08:40] I see all of them === redguy [n=mati@acn130.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === mac2612 [n=forrie@pool-70-104-33-52.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === gerold_ [n=gerold@p54B24960.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:40] Changes OK, Commit === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger [08:41] i basically get a fatal error when i try to load the module [08:42] Can someone do me a favor please? If you have wpa_supplicant, could you pastebin your /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant file for me? [08:43] Patry you did a sudo apt-get update before that right? [08:44] no just alf-f2 kdesu adept-updater [08:45] argh does this mean it won't work since I'm not root? [08:45] does exists winamp or a new version of xmms for linux === _thibaut [n=thibaut@did75-12-82-236-0-251.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] oh forget that, I typed my root passwd earlier [08:46] but why should I do sudo apt-get update instead? [08:46] Patry: you need to do that [08:46] well [08:46] how come? [08:46] kdesu adept-updater can't work aswell? === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:46] Patry: honestly Im not sure..but typically, after you change your sources.list, you need to do an apt-get update [08:47] adept, might use its own database tho [08:47] well it seems to work for now [08:47] but if you DONT do the update, and you try to do an apt-get install from the CLI, it wont work [08:47] my sources.list is fine now [08:48] so after your update is done, please do the sudo apt-get update === thibaut_ [n=thibaut@did75-12-82-236-0-251.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] then everything will be fine [08:48] ok I will === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-153-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] kkathman: I have another I think small problem. I can not use my floppy drive in linux, i can not mount it, like my windows partition === Chairman_Wow [n=Chairman@212.2.166.180] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] Patry: also, when the adept is done, your admin mode should work too [08:48] I would like to know now how can I do a MOTD at every start of my terminal === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] was it a KDE bug? [08:49] hunika: can you see it ?? [08:49] kkathman: yes i can [08:49] i.e. does the system see the drive? [08:50] kkathman: yes the system sees the drive [08:50] hunika whats the FDD desination on your system [08:50] how could i updrade my modules or updrade ndiswrapper? === jdrake [n=jdrake@CPE0080c6ead6a9-CM0012254195d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:51] kkathman: system:/media [08:51] hunika: probably fd0 ?? [08:51] kkathman: i have two floppy and fd0 === murph2481 [n=murph248@c-24-9-97-92.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:51] hunika: fd0 will be in the /dev and floppy0 s/b in /media [08:52] ? [08:52] hunika: you tried a mount? [08:52] hunika: what about kopete? [08:52] kkathman: i tried but i could not [08:52] newbie here... === Yon [n=root@c3-85-1.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] hi murph2481 :) [08:52] how do i get to the other partitoins (ie windows) from kubuntu [08:52] Tm_T: Others can not see my contact photo, but I can see their's [08:52] hello :) everything is up and running so i am happy about that [08:52] hi all. im trying to get my music and videos to play off my windows hdd, now i have mounted the hdd but none of the files work [08:53] Tm_T: I have installed contact photo [08:53] murph2481: try running konqeror and you should see them through smb:/ [08:53] is there a music player i should dl that will help me? [08:53] Tm_T: and yahoo users can not send me files [08:53] brb [08:53] hunika: ah, what version of Kopete? [08:53] Tm_T: kkathman told you can help me [08:53] Tm_T: Kopete 0.11 === Pupeno_ [n=pupeno@OL16-94.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] well these are local partitions [08:53] hunika: and yahoo... I'm not sure does it support file transfer [08:54] Tm_T: new version of yahoo suports file transfer [08:54] i can see them under /media [08:54] it doesn't, unfortunately [08:54] hunika: and if it does, might be your firewall [08:54] but i cannot get to them it has a lock on it [08:54] kkathman: opinion about my floppy drive [08:54] kkathman, in /etc/motd I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6462 but when I open a terminal I don't see that, is it normal? [08:54] hunika: but Kopete with Yahoo plugin doesn't, I believe. [08:54] hunika: check your global identity [08:54] Tm_T: I am using kubuntu, I don't have a firewall [08:54] hunika: yes you do [08:55] Tm_T: how can I reach my firewall settings. I am using linux for 2 months === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] Kopete uses 6891 for transfers [08:55] hunika: but, I don't use yahoo myself [08:55] how do i mount devices? [08:56] hunika: you have router? nat? [08:56] Tm_T: still, I don't think yahoo protocol on kopete supports file transfers yet [08:56] Tm_T: in windows language? What is that? :) [08:56] can any1 help me [08:56] ? [08:56] !helpme [08:56] If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you. [08:56] Tm_T: in beginners language :) [08:56] Tm_T: please [08:57] apokryphos: I think so too [08:57] i cant get music to play from my hdd that i mounted [08:57] wat do i need to do? [08:57] Yon: Can you get music to play on your regular drive? [08:57] yip [08:57] well, i did once [08:58] ok, I'm too dizzy to think, see you later -> [08:58] i dont know wat i did [08:58] or wat formatt the file was tho [08:58] Yon: Waht kind of music? [08:58] Tm_T: ? [08:58] i was thinking that it was the player i am useing [08:58] ok back [08:59] kkathman: Tm_T I think got away, he told me that kubuntu has firewall? It is true? [08:59] kkathman: if it is how can I configure it [08:59] i have all kinds [08:59] kkathman reply please [08:59] mp3, wma === SethGecko [n=yaya@p50818A29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] and a few others [09:00] hunika firestarter [09:00] !firestarter [09:00] well, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic === Lacerta [n=Silakka@dsl-lprgw5-fe5ddc00-8.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] kkathman: but i have just the basic package, i don't have firewall [09:00] you should have it [09:00] kkathman: i think i don't have the program [09:00] hunika: install it [09:00] kkathman: why? [09:00] kkathman: why i need for linux that? [09:00] hunika: well, you dont need to if you have a router I reckon [09:01] kkathman: what is a router? [09:01] kkathman: i am at a larger network in my hometyown [09:01] kkathman: we all connect to a city-server [09:01] shadyman, wat music player do u use? [09:01] kkathman: they have antivirus, firewall and everything [09:02] kkathman: anyway for linux why i need a firewal [09:02] l [09:02] hunika: you connect your computer directly to your modem? [09:02] kkathman: i do not connect to a modem, I connect to a cable [09:02] kkathman: it is like cable - television [09:03] how do u get a personal security manager on? === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.185.237] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] kkathman: so should i install firestarter, i have downloaded kmyfirewall but I have not installed it === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] hunika: its up to you === ninHer [n=ninherta@118.81.223.82.arsystel.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] how to install a splashscreen ? http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35 dont work, there is no "splash screen" section in kubuntu. [09:06] kkathman: in your opinion for my security should i install or not? [09:06] kkathman: in windows i have zone alarm [09:06] hi all [09:06] kkathman: firestarter is something like that? [09:06] I think what Tm_T was saying is that if you DID have firestarter, it might be blocking things from people sending you things [09:06] does any1 know or have that problem? [09:07] yes firestarter is a front end for iptables [09:07] kkathman: yes, but i don't have firestarter [09:07] kkathman: anyway i install it [09:08] kkathman, do u know wat a PSM is? (private security manager) === hostel [n=hostel@46.Red-81-47-242.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:09] Yon no [09:09] hunika: if you WANT firestarter...just sudo apt-get install firestarter [09:09] i got it in the reporsitories [09:10] kkathman: i think i can handle with it [09:10] hello [09:11] can someone please help me setup my wireless card [09:13] kkathman: I have installed firestarter but i can not see it's icon in the K menu [09:13] I have MP3's on a windows partition how do i get to it? I can see them in media/ but they have a lock on them === IanE [n=Miranda@i-83-67-63-183.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] murph2481: so you can't copy them over, can't run them? [09:15] right all i can see is hda1 with a lock on it [09:15] and nothing is in the mnt directory [09:17] 3 [09:18] apokryphos:any suggestions? [09:18] murph2481: the windoze drive is mounted? What are you mounting it with? [09:19] apokryphos: nothing is mounted other then what happens at startup for kubuntu [09:19] murph2481: so mount your windoze partition === jkop [n=jkop@M355P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] you can use this tool to do it automagically for you: [09:20] apokryphos: sorry newbie here :) how would i do that [09:20] !fstab [09:20] the /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter See . === IanE [n=Miranda@i-83-67-63-183.freedom2surf.net] has left #kubuntu [] [09:20] murph2481: download and execute that file [09:21] murph2481: wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter && sudo sh diskmounter [09:21] Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab [09:21] Ignoring /dev/hda5 - already in /etc/fstab [09:21] No usable windows/mac partitions found [09:22] :( [09:22] those hda1 and hda5 are windows partitions === burnin [n=burnin@42dbe40a.dsl.aros.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:22] murph2481: oh, so they *are* already mounted [09:22] ok, fine === jkop [n=jkop@M355P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:23] murph2481: so if you go to /media/whatever/files can't you copy them over to your Kubuntu partition? === troth [n=SpentCas@oh-strongsvillecadent1-2d-27.clvhoh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:23] apokryphos: those partitions are like 5 times the size of the linux one [09:23] what does BREAK(install) mean in adept? [09:24] murph2481: try it with one file -- does it work? [09:24] apokryphos: i cannot get to those files in /media it has a locked icon on the folder === burnin [n=burnin@42dbe40a.dsl.aros.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:25] murph2481: paste the entries of those entries in fstab, here [09:25] apokryphos: how do i do that? [09:25] murph2481: fstab is located in /etc/fstab [09:26] /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults 0 0 [09:26] /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ntfs defaults 0 0 === _skiy_ [n=skiy@84.12.155.209] has joined #kubuntu === penguinzdr [n=penguinz@213-240-197-31.1703347.ddns.cablebg.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:27] murph2481: ok, in both cases replace "defaults" with "umask=0222" [09:27] save the file, then sudo mount -a [09:28] appokryphos: how do i open a file in Kate with root priveledges? [09:29] aprokryphos: it says i cannoth write to the file if i just open it and change it [09:29] murph2481: kdesu kate /etc/fstab [09:29] murph2481: yup, files in /etc/ are owned by root (as they're related to system-wide configurations) === sven [n=sven@84-107-16-20.dsl.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] is there any alternative to ndiswrapper? === mac2612 [n=forrie@pool-70-104-33-52.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] troth: there's some web thingy that you'll have to pay for. Doesn't the linux drivers work for you? You really need windows-drivers? [09:32] apokryphos: You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hda1 === Lacerta [n=simo@dsl-lprgw5-fe5ddc00-8.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] murph2481: where do you get that message? [09:32] murph2481: did you successfully save and then sudo mount -a ? === hunika [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] apokryphos: after i changed everything you said to change [09:33] ndiswrapper kepps error-ing out. this is the first time ive tried to get a wirell card to work on my laptop, very frustrating [09:33] apokryphos: i saw it in /media trying to click on hda1 in konqueror [09:33] apokryphos: yes rean the sudo mount -a with no issues [09:33] is linux just not made for wifi ywt? [09:34] cant type today [09:34] troth: works out of the box for me. What kind of card you got? [09:34] murph2481: curious; I'm not sure why it insists on root perms. Hold on a sec. [09:34] linksys wpc54g === penguinzdr [n=penguinz@213-240-197-31.1703347.ddns.cablebg.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] apokryphos: thanks :) [09:35] what card do you use, ill buy it if it works out of the box [09:35] troth: mine works out of the box...i have netgear super G atheros chipset [09:35] troth: kubuntu is the second distro other than knoppix 4.0 to recogize it [09:36] troth: http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=linux+wireless&btnG=Google-s6kning&meta= [09:36] i love knoppix [09:36] that 4.0 dvd was great === cadel777 [n=cadel777@85-124-169-167.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] troth: i do too but wanted to see what the craze is with kubuntu/unbuntu [09:37] troth: lcpci of my card... 0000:03:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) [09:37] troth: and because it works with my wireless card thought i would give it a try...but lots of things are different like the mounting of the other partitions i am haveing issues with === Pupeno_ [n=pupeno@OL16-94.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [09:38] when i do lspci how do i know which one is my card? [09:39] murph2481: do you know the model number of your card? === stefano [n=stefano@i53878CB2.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] troth: hold on :) [09:40] troth: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG311T.php [09:41] im on a laptop === sven [n=sven@84-107-16-20.dsl.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] i must have wireless access, and i dont want to have to resort to installing windows [09:42] troth: well i do lots of game playing and other stuff so i have both but i know the feeling [09:42] I AM CURRENTLY AWAY [09:42] I AM BACK === xtacocorex is back. [09:43] troth: i know the feeling about the wireless card...linux is a bitch about that [09:43] i cant belieb\ve a wireless card is this much of an ordeal [09:43] hunika: if you type /away you go away and type /away to come back === crimsun [n=crimsun@cpe-066-056-187-199.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] troth: linuxant will let you for $20 will solve all your wireless problems [09:44] ya i checked them out [09:44] troth: http://www.linuxant.com/company/ (i never got ndiswrapper to work ever) [09:45] troth: my friend has that and uses it for OpenSUSE and says its great...for $20 all your problems go away [09:45] murph2481: hm, I really have no idea why it's not working, though it's not working for me here too. Weird; those options necessitate that it should be readable by all users, and not just root. [09:46] apokryphos: thats good you can replicate it I dont feel stupid :) === LiGhTeNiN [n=marie@217-159-167-217-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] how do I open the history sidebar in konq? [09:47] apokryphos: got another one for you....my wireless setup. It works (obviosuly i am online) but how do i get it to work automatically? [09:47] could someone help me set up an internet connection with router under kubuntu? [09:48] apokryphos: everytime i boot i have to go to setup and click activate config 1 for wireless setting in KDE and then run a konsole and type 'dhclient' === apokryphos has no clue about wireless :/ [09:48] murph2481: install wifi-radar from the repos [09:48] LiGhTeNiN: connect it up, then sudo dhclient === patry [n=patry@16-148.dr.cgocable.ca] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] finally, help! [09:48] thankyou [09:48] but what do you mean by connecting up [09:48] murph2481: i had that same problem when i took my laptop to school, wifi radar does it all for you [09:49] xtacocorex: will that fix it so i dont have to manually do it everytime i boot up [09:49] where do i get it? [09:49] murph2481: i'd search synaptic if you have it installed, otherwise sudo apt-get install wifi-radar [09:49] LiGhTeNiN: connect the LAN cable from the router, to your computer [09:49] murph2481: (it being synaptic) [09:49] synaptic is obsolete [09:49] adept [09:50] I'm trying to install irssi but apparently gcc can't find gcc, how can I fix that? [09:50] oh, ok, I'll see if I get it working, thankyou [09:50] stefano: i couldn't get used to adept [09:50] yea adept is awesome [09:50] got it [09:50] evening, I used to download a multimedia repository list from wiki.ubuntu.com to install mplayer but now I cannot find it anymore... :( [09:50] !mplayer [09:50] extra, extra, read all about it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 [09:50] xtacocorex: alright got it with adapt now what if i goto internet and run it nothing happens [09:51] murph2481: all you have to do is set the networks in the program and it should automatically pick them up on boot [09:51] xtacocorex: alright lets test that theory BRB [09:51] murph2481: you'll have to set it up first [09:54] so anybody knows about gcc? [09:55] No one knows about gcc. [09:55] Um, it's a compiler. :P [09:55] has any1 installed mozilla? [09:56] coz i am having problems with it. === murph2481 [n=murph248@c-24-9-97-92.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:56] xtacocorex: nogo still had to run everything manually but in startup i did see it start wifi-radar demon [09:56] yeah I know that but how can I make it work with irssi [09:57] murph2481: you have to tell it the networks [09:57] xtacocorex: how do i do that? [09:57] Yon: You apear to be a 13yr old when your sentences have 'any1', and 'coz'. [09:57] murph2481: kdesu wifi-radar [09:57] adept is teh rox [09:57] patry: Don't ask to ask, don't look for confirmation on your questions, just ask them. [09:57] it'll bring up (i think) a python gui that lists the networks in range === m0ns00n is now known as m0ns00n_withDrug === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.235.57] has joined #kubuntu [09:58] murph2481: if you call it from kmenu, it'll want to use gksudo, so you might want to change the calls with the menu editor sometime [09:59] xtacocrex: my ssid broadcast is turned off....when i type that command in konsole nothing happens [10:00] got another dumb question...how do i install firefox...the adept program gets deerpark RC3...i want 1.5 [10:00] murph2481: hmm, i wonder if it needs the broadcast [10:01] murph2481: i usually run it with the mini cli (alt+f2) === m0ns00n_withDrug is now known as m0ns00n === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === tabris [n=tabris@62.57.81.107] has joined #kubuntu === tabris [n=tabris@62.57.81.107] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:04] any suggestions on getting firefox installed? [10:04] stable version 1.5 [10:04] murph2481: 'tar x' it in '/usr/local/firefox15' for example? [10:05] well yes that will unzip it to a directory [10:05] but how do i get it to the menu and such? [10:05] murph2481: well, easiest thing is to just drag-and-drop it to the desktop. [10:05] murph2481: that will create a symlink. [10:06] murph2481: else just right click on the K Menu and select 'Menu editor' and add a new menu entry. [10:06] murph2481: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99004 === LiGhTeNiN [n=marie@217-159-167-217-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] dhclient command didnt work === m_tadeu [n=miguel@62.169.101.70.rev.optimus.pt] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] got this 'failed to get attributes of etc/resolv.conf [10:07] murph2481: another how-to from the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283 === _xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.235.209] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] hi everyone [10:08] has anyone tryed x11r7? [10:09] xtacocorex: can you help? [10:10] LiGhTeNiN: what are you trying to do? [10:10] trying to connect to internet under kubuntu [10:10] I got a router [10:10] seems to work :) [10:11] Blissex: alright untar-d now what? [10:11] Blissex: what file do i run? [10:12] murph2481: where did you untar it to? [10:12] I did the 'sudo dhclient' command and got 'failed to get attributes of etc/resolv.conf No such file or directory' error [10:12] "/home" [10:12] murph2481: a bit lame, the tradition is to 'untar' to '/usr/local' [10:12] i do not have permissions... [10:13] murph2481: but it would be something like 'sh /home/firefox/firefox' for example [10:13] Blisse: alright how do i specify where to untar? [10:14] LiGhTeNiN: are you adding your network card when you run dhclient? [10:14] murph2481: you first 'cd' to that. Like 'cd /usr/local && tar -xz -f /tmp/firefox-1.5.tar.gz' === Lacerta [n=simo@dsl-lprgw5-fe5ddc00-8.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] Blissex: k that makes sens hold please :) [10:15] murph2481: if you do that then 'sh /usr/local/firefox/firefox' will start it [10:15] xtacocorex: you mean if I typed eth0 after it? no, should I have written? [10:15] LiGhTeNiN: i'd try sudo dhclient eth0 [10:15] murph2481: ideally create a symlink to start it easier: 'ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox' for example [10:16] LiGhTeNiN: i'm searching the forums because i haven't had to do this, so bear with me if stuff doesn't work right away === server [n=server@K9583.k.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] xtacocorex: I havent had to do this either, first time, back then when I had a modem it was so easy, just the pppoeconf command [10:17] LiGhTeNiN: are you on a wired network? [10:17] he's on a weird network xD [10:17] Blissex it is now in the correct directory === Yon [n=root@c3-85-1.rba.dial-up.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:18] yes @ wired === Tadpole [n=root@c3-85-1.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:18] Blissex: if i open konsole and jump to that directory and type sh firefox nothing happens [10:19] LiGhTeNiN: did that work? [10:19] murph2481: that should really not happen. Try 'sh -x firefox'. It may also be rather slow to start BTW. [10:19] wat is the best mp3 player to get? [10:19] nothing [10:19] amaroK, JuK [10:20] Tadpole: amaok [10:20] xtacocorex: did what work? [10:20] LiGhTeNiN: sudo dhclient eth0 [10:20] I havent tried to add eth0 yet [10:20] LiGhTeNiN: oh, ok [10:21] Ok, I'ma try === DHGE [n=alois@i577A0861.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] m_tadeu, do u mean amarok? [10:21] Blissex: edited a link in the menu and gave it the command '/usr/local/firefox/firefox' [10:22] but nothing happens [10:22] murph2481: try the 'sh -x' to see if it crashes or whatever. [10:23] sh-3.1$ [10:24] Tadpole: sorry..yep [10:24] murph2481: that was 'sh -x ...../firefox' [10:25] i get a bunch of crap and nothing happens [10:25] ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [10:26] m_tadeu, it cant read mp3's tho [10:26] murph2481: so you need the right C++ shared library. [10:27] murph2481: Breezy has a newer C++ shared library than Firefox needs. Just install the older one. [10:27] Tadpole: do you get any error? [10:27] Blissex: is there anything i can add to apt to get the correct version? [10:27] murph2481: yes, just specify the right one. [10:27] murph2481: install the package containing that file [10:28] m_tadeu, wen i try to add it to media it tells me some media could not be loaded(not playable) [10:28] Blissex: in adept all I see is firefox 1.5RC3 [10:28] murph2481: install libstdc++5 [10:29] murph2481: dont worry about that, it is the C++ library that you need, the file indicated by [10:29] Tadpole: never got that one...maybe you should reach the amarok channel [10:30] is kde 3.5 working with breezy? and if so? why isnt it updated in a normal update? [10:31] libben: it's upgraded in a kubuntu repo [10:31] it's not in the main repository because Breezy has already been released [10:31] m_tadeu, i am using files from a mounted drive === tarmath [n=tarmath@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3496727.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [10:32] is there any gui improvements in 3.5? [10:32] though, I'd have hoped it'd be in the Ubuntu backports repo, but it wasn't put there :/ [10:32] Blissex: you are my hero! thank you [10:32] Blissex: it is working now and learned a lot thanks for you patients [10:33] Tadpole: it can be anything, as far as I know...database, maybe. you realy should ask in the amarok channel, they're in a better position to help you [10:33] k thanks :) [10:33] murph2481: and too. Also, consider having a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion it is a far more complete process, even if a bit too complicated. [10:33] yup, that's what I recommend [10:34] guys, need some help with the english language [10:34] now if i could just figure out the mounting problem [10:34] stefano: get an english speaking girlfriend :-) [10:34] i am about to get one :) but shes in france [10:35] hi lads, Im wondering if anyone would know of a location where I could grab an extensive listing of the user groups in /etc/group and their meaning, I know most of them but not all of them and Im quite curious as to what the others might be doing [10:35] stefano: complicated work :-) [10:35] maybe you can help me though [10:36] i want to say "hooray" in a rethorical complicated and important sounding way [10:36] lol [10:36] anyone else have a suggestions on the windows partition problem [10:36] i am using Dapper Flight 2 [10:37] fantasticalicious? === userathei [n=user@cpe-70-115-181-37.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] wow thank you thats amazing [10:37] :> [10:38] does anyone know of a good wireless card i can pick up from best but that is linux friendly? [10:38] troth: netgear wg511, but make sure it's made in taiwan as the ones made in china won't work [10:39] k ive been trying this linksys and im giving up [10:39] troth: i've only gotten it to work in kubuntu though, i got it to light up in fedora, but that was the most on that side [10:40] i got kubuntu on my laptop so thats god news [10:40] *good [10:40] troth: than you should be set, the card shouldn't be that expensive, just hard to find a taiwan made one [10:41] do i still have to use ndiswrapper or anything? [10:41] troth: nope, it uses the prism drivers that are built into the kernel [10:42] i asked a "worst buy" employee for a card with a prism chipset, him nor the "geek squad" knew what i meant [10:42] troth: i ended up pissing one of them off when they wanted to do that 'system checkup' [10:43] lol :) === XiCillin [n=mike@dpc67142105197.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:43] troth: they didn't cater to the fact that i run linux and know more than them [10:43] how do i take a screenshot in kde? [10:43] print screen button doesn't work [10:43] ya it seems that way [10:43] XiCillin: ksnapshot [10:44] thansk [10:44] XiCillin: np === xtacocorex is away: taking dog out quicklike [10:45] How do I make the Master volume control the PCM output? [10:46] Shadyman: not so easy on some cards. === userathei [n=user@cpe-70-115-181-37.rgv.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] === userathei [n=user@cpe-70-115-181-37.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] Blissex: and on other cards? [10:48] Shadyman: on other cards you don't do anything. :-) [10:48] oh. === demiurg [n=demiurg@212.118.59.2] has joined #kubuntu === xtacocorex is back. [10:50] troth: hope you can find one of those cards [10:52] xtacocorex: yeah im gonna check now thx === Phily [n=Phil@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:53] troth: cool, good luck === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu [10:56] #ubuntu.ru [11:00] === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:01] hi there [11:01] I've got a question, is there anybody? [11:01] demiurg: try /join #ubuntu.ru [11:01] Lord_Athur: what is your question? === Potus_ [n=steinar@dsl238-146.adsl.no] has joined #kubuntu === mtadeunet [n=miguel@62.169.101.70.rev.optimus.pt] has joined #kubuntu [11:02] xtacocorex, I've got a kubuntu 5.10 system [11:02] sorry orex, I've got a kubuntu 5.04system [11:03] Lord_Athur: ok [11:03] but I have problems with the letters in the graphical enviroment === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@ool-44c1a0bb.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] Lord_Athur: what do you mean by that? [11:04] other users cannot understand me in xchat or other programs when I put a `' [11:04] Lord_Athur: the backtick doesn't work? [11:04] and if I move the cursor to the left the following part is clear [11:04] xtacocorex, maybe [11:04] Lord_Athur: is it ` or '? [11:05] [11:05] ' [11:05] Lord_Athur: because i really have no idea what your problem could be [11:05] :S === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@24-148-85-212.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] can this be a problem with the locales? [11:05] Lord_Athur: it might be since i just saw the o thing that you typed [11:06] <_ubuntu> hello [11:06] hi _ubuntu [11:07] xtacocorex, that wrong [11:07] <_ubuntu> i am newbie to ubuntu and was wondering if you could boot ubuntu from a partition of a remote drive ? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@ip68-105-224-148.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] _ubuntu: how remote? [11:07] Lord_Athur: i don't know anything about the locales, but it could also be a bug or something within X [11:08] <_ubuntu> well its not a network drive just an external hard drive [11:08] yes [11:08] xtacocorex, I've been changin the xorrg configuration [11:08] xtacocorex, i'll be re-configuring it [11:08] bye all [11:08] [11:08] Lord_Athur: that could be it [11:09] demiurg: agreed [11:09] demiurg: you need to type /join #ubuntu.ru [11:09] demiurg: sorry, my bad [11:10] che vse ploho === _ubuntu is now known as prakash === prakash is now known as prakash1 === ranto [n=ranto@200-122-104-245.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] hello [11:10] hello [11:11] i am newbie to kde [11:11] and am looking for information about configuring the OS to boot up from an external hard drive partition === xtacocorex is away: dropping off rent check to landlord === LiGhTeNiN [n=marie@217-159-167-217-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #Kubuntu [11:20] xtacocorex: adding eth0 to the end changed nothing [11:20] hi lads, Im wondering if anyone would know of a location where I could grab an extensive listing of the user groups in /etc/group and their meaning, I know most of them but not all of them and Im quite curious as to what the others might be doing [11:20] tho I somehow managed to get rid of the error I got, net still didnt work [11:21] tarmath: i know such a thing, but its in german [11:21] isnt there anything in wikipedia? [11:21] can someone help me set up a connection with router under kubuntu? [11:21] tarmath: or try google.com/linux [11:22] hmm I havent tried wikipedia [11:23] lets see === permanewb [n=kshaw@adsl-216-103-209-252.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:24] ok, give me that page in german [11:25] lol [11:25] Ill babelfish it something I dont care if the output is crap it's better than nothing [11:25] www.linuxfiebel.something (dont remember the tld, google for linuxfiebel) [11:25] I cant believe theres no such thing as an extensive listing of groups [11:25] ask linus torvalds =) === Cheapy [n=chpalert@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === permanewb [n=kshaw@adsl-216-103-209-252.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:28] bah its not on that site either === _lukasz [n=lukasz@i577A3BA0.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === Stormx2 [n=Stormx@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] Heya === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] Anyone about? Thinking of installing kubuntu, can't stand GNOME anymore >_< [11:32] oooh === Evera [n=brandon@pool-71-107-7-172.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] good thinking ;-P === Evera is now known as Milktea [11:32] right [11:32] well [11:33] What's Breezy's equivalent for Hoary's Alien command? [11:33] Milktea: alien [11:33] o_o [11:33] sudo: alien: command not found [11:33] Milktea: You need to install the alien package [11:33] install it [11:33] Milktea: sudo apt-get install alien [11:33] oops ^^; [11:33] sudo: alien: command not found [11:33] oops [11:33] >.< [11:33] Which packages should I get for OpenGL Direct Rendering, 3D ACceleration, OSS Sound for ATi Mobility Radeon 9700 [11:34] Xorg Version 6.8.2 [11:34] Milktea: look at the ATI restricted drivers. Not sure they support the Mobility Radeon 9700 though. [11:34] Milktea: there is a specific page about them [11:35] Where can I find the list of restricted drivers? [11:35] On kubuntu, what kind of support is there for 1) FTP Clients (I know gnome can mount ftp sites with "Connect to server", and I hate gftp) 2) Editors (I use screem for PHP, HTML, JS and CSS editting) 3) Instant Messengers (I know about amsn, does GAIM work on kubuntu?) 4) IRC Clients (XChat?) === Pupeno [n=pupeno@146-188-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [11:36] Stormx2: all Ubuntu software works perfectly on kubuntu === covalence [n=calimero@m228.net81-64-247.noos.fr] has joined #kubuntu === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-21-236.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:36] Chousuke: Brilliant, ok. But its not native though, does it look a bit odd on KDE? [11:36] I think you can make it look a lot like KDE. [11:37] Chousuke: And what about "Connect to server", thats from GNOME's places menu. What FTP client do you use, if any? [11:37] I'm not a KDE user myself. I've read lots about it though. :) [11:37] KDE includes KIOslaves which I hear are the best thing since sliced bread. [11:37] lol [11:37] OK [11:37] you can access ftp in any app with KIOslaves [11:37] it's transparent [11:38] KIOslaves? [11:38] GNOME is imposible to work with, Windows is so slow, XFCE is too much like gnome (but a little less bulky, but still too bulky), so I'm gonna try KDE [11:38] it's some kind of KDE peculiarity. [11:38] Stormx2: use ratpoison [11:39] allows you to access files through many protocols as if they were local. [11:39] nalioth: For FTP, or are you being sarcastic? [11:39] or something like that. [11:39] Ah good good. [11:39] and probably other stuff too. [11:39] Stormx2: i just saw your list of DEs you don't like. ratpoison has little to dislike [11:40] Right [11:40] Well [11:40] i can work with any of them [11:40] but [11:40] I'm a perfectionist when it comes to workareas >.< === xwolf- [n=wolf@201.32.250.155] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] nalioth: is ratpoison a DE? [11:40] Stormx2: just experiment! [11:40] !info ratpoison [11:40] can someone help me set up a connection with router under kubuntu? [11:40] ratpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] I got the ATi driver for my Mobility Radeon 9700, but when I alien'd it, I get lots of errors :< [11:41] try all you can find and pick your poison (not necessarily ratpoison) === Yon [n=root@c3-85-1.rba.dial-up.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] Right, I'm off to try kubuntu. One last question, will all the apps get added to the GNOME menu? [11:41] you mean KDE? [11:41] KDE apps, yeah. [11:41] yu [11:42] can someone help me set up a connection with router under kubuntu? [11:42] Stormx2: are you on ubuntu now? you can install kubuntu on ubuntu directly. [11:42] hey. anyone know how to configure the knotify notification boxes? i'd like to resize and move kopetes notification box to the bottom of the screen [11:42] is there a way that everytime u login console auto opens and types in a few commands? [11:42] Chousuke: No, but I know you can just get kubuntu-desktop, yeah. [11:42] Stormx2: ok, good. :) [11:42] Chousuke, nalioth, thankyou for the help [11:43] so, noone is going to help me set up a connection? [11:43] LiGhTeNiN: perhaps ask in #ubuntu [11:43] hm [11:43] oh ok, i'll try [11:43] Can't find info on kioslaves on google ;P [11:44] hmm [11:45] Im going to reboot into ubuntu. Cya soon === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] Meh. [11:47] Where canI get the proper drivers for an ATi Mobility Radeon 9700? [11:47] :< === ToyMan_ [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] If I only could manage to set up japanese input in KDE. === ToyMan_ [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:48] I never managed to make it work in any sensible way :/ [11:48] I read all kinds of FAQs and tutorials about kinput2, UIM, skim and whatever. none of them worked in the end. [11:49] once I managed to make kinput2 work but then I lost the ebility to type Finnish :P [11:50] I know the feeling, read lots of stuff and in the end it still wont work :| [11:50] GNOME implements these things called input modules. I'm waiting for KDE4 to be released since it includes those too. === Stormx3 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] Where canI get the proper drivers for an ATi Mobility Radeon 9700? :< [11:50] Pah. Remind me not to hit the reset button when using IRC [11:50] I can't alien the .rpm from the ATi site === dooglio_ [n=doug@dcn243-86.dcn.davis.ca.us] has joined #kubuntu [11:51] Why, what happens when you try? [11:51] I hear a lot of good about KDE and would really like to give it a spin. [11:51] even if it's a bit heavy on RAM. [11:51] ;P [11:52] I get errors [11:52] pah [11:52] I have 256mb ram [11:52] its not great. [11:52] last 2 lines [11:52] Package build failed. Here's the log: [11:52] find: fglrx_6_8_0-8.20.8: No such file or directory [11:52] Milktea: its not finding the file [11:52] There's a lot of Operation not permitted [11:52] Chousuke: kde isn't so heavy on ram =) [11:52] Milktea: You in the correct directory, and have entered the right filename [11:52] m0ns00n: It is. [11:53] yeah [11:53] How would KDE fair under 256mb ram? [11:53] I get a lot of Operation not permitted [11:53] then finally get that [11:53] Milktea: Try sudo, then [11:53] KDE is big :O [11:53] Hehe [11:53] I am using sudo >< [11:53] Depends if you want to run the whole KDE or not [11:53] And if you want all flashy icons [11:53] =) === kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] heh =) [11:54] I wish I had more ram [11:54] I hear they're trying to make KDE4 more efficient though. [11:54] how much does it cost? [11:54] for an extra 256mb or ram, maybe [11:54] RAM? depends on what RAM it is. [11:54] Corsair RAM is nice [11:54] SDRAM is expensive. [11:54] Stormx3: 256MB is just about all right. [11:54] non-DDR at least. :p [11:55] I paid 60 euros for 256 [11:55] Blissex: Hmm. [11:55] but DDR is cheaper and faster. [11:55] Chousuke: DDR is not necessarily faster BTW [11:55] what does your motherboard support? [11:55] No. Idea. [11:55] >_< [11:55] :/ [11:55] I should find out [11:55] os[Linux 2.6.12-10-386 i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ @ 1.40GHz] mem[Physical : 250MB, 29.5% free] disk[Total : 110.84GB, 14.90% Free] video[10de:002d] sound[ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] [11:55] Stormx3: I am using sudo :< [11:55] hmm [11:56] Should I try it in a root console [11:56] Milktea: Tried without sudo? [11:56] n8 [11:56] n8? thats a new one on me [11:56] Stormx3: Not yet, will do [11:57] hmmmm [11:57] I need a new computer [11:57] and soon. [11:57] Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot). [11:57] isn't it more like "nate" anyway. [11:57] I shall make that my mission of 2006 [11:57] to have the meanest computer ^_^ === Chousuke might get a nice 733/256/64 comp for free ;P [11:58] :< [11:58] (MHz/RAM/VRAM) [11:58] Stormx3: Without sudo, it gives me [11:58] Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot). [11:58] Milktea: Search on ubuntuforums.org [11:59] OK Everyone, as a rough guide, how much does 256mb of ram cost (lowest -> highest) and how much would you spend... [11:59] I'm running on a 1.3GHz/1.25GB/64MB powerbook atm. [11:59] Stormx3: how much MHz do you have? [11:59] Stormx3: depends on the type of RAM and the country... [11:59] 1.4 [12:00] UK, and, I'm not sure. i've never gone into types before. [12:00] Stormx3: I have written a very nice KDE and UNIX performance enhancement advice page here: [12:00] Ah, nice. [12:00] Stormx3: in the UK you can get fairly cheap SDRAM from eBuyer.co.UK [12:00] Stormx3: Find your motherboard manual. [12:00] where? I see no link === douglas [n=douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:01] Stormx3: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance and http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008 [12:01] Blissex: I just saw ".... advice page here:" [12:01] Stormx3: it has info on the type of supported RAM [12:01] OK :) [12:01] Well [12:01] I don't think I can really get hold of the manual [12:01] I shall ask my dad [12:01] When is dapper slated to be released? [12:01] Stormx3: I have an 800MHz laptop with 256MB and KDE just about runs with it. [12:01] April. [12:02] april? [12:02] sounds delicious, I hope that amarok 1.4 gets released by then