[04:31] <poningru> guys there is no file transfer page on the wiki
[04:31] <poningru> is there?
[05:46] <Burgundavia> poningru, fiel transfer/
[05:46] <Burgundavia> ?
[06:24] <poningru> Burgundavia: yeah like transfering files over a network
[06:24] <Burgundavia> poningru, create one 
[06:24] <Burgundavia> I don
[06:24] <Burgundavia> t think there is
[06:25] <poningru> ok will make one
[06:25] <Burgundavia> Be Bold!
[06:25] <poningru> hehe
[06:29] <Burgundavia> bloody FF tabs memory bug
[06:30] <Burgundavia> after opening 50 tabs I need to restart FF
[06:31] <bshumate> hahaha!
[06:32] <bshumate> i love the "text input field bug" where after a bunch of tabs, some javascript, and flash, all of a sudden no input is possible into the text input field of any form...FF rules!
[06:33] <bshumate> (course that bug has been around since the nutscrape days...)
[09:22] <Burgundavia> robitaille, how are you this evening?
[09:23] <robitaille> was there a doc team meeting on Friday?   I can't seem to find anything in the irc logs of fabbione
[09:23] <robitaille> evening has been quiet:  everyone is now in bed :)
[09:23] <Burgundavia> I wasn't there if there was
[09:24] <robitaille> I'm catching up on my emails and my work, then I'm going to bed :)
[09:24] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamPlansDapper <-- we need to work on this stuff
[09:31] <Burgundavia> robitaille, is pygame.org down for you as well?
[09:33] <robitaille> Burgundavia,  yes; can't get to it from either here or from my work connection
[09:33] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:33] <Burgundavia> dns is working
[09:35] <robitaille> someone didn't pay his bill for hosting, and the server got pulled on Jan 1st? :)
[09:37] <Burgundavia> maybe
[09:37] <Burgundavia> got bit by the y2k bug 6 years late?
[09:37] <Burgundavia> I mean their web page does not like a late 90's one
[09:38] <robitaille> anyway, I'm going to bed.  happy new year
[09:38] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:49] <mdke> happy new year everyone
[10:38] <Burgundavia> nickrud, ping
[10:38] <nickrud> Burgundavia, pong
[10:38] <Burgundavia> nickrud, what is your plan with NewJava?
[10:39] <nickrud> Basically a clean write, and then check with you all. In fact, I'm need of answers :)
[10:39] <Burgundavia> cool, that is what I thought
[10:39] <nickrud> So, have you installed java on amd's and ppc's?
[10:39] <Burgundavia> no
[10:40] <Burgundavia> but here is what you offer them
[10:40] <nickrud> me neither
[10:40] <Burgundavia> try gcj
[10:40] <Burgundavia> then install blackdown
[10:40] <nickrud> yes, except the ppc's I just wrote my work to date
[10:41] <Burgundavia> and if 1.4 doesn't cut it, offer them sun
[10:41] <nickrud> that's some of the fact checking I need.
[10:41] <Burgundavia> for hoary and preveious, it is just install sun
[10:42] <nickrud> right. That's what I'd picked up. The beginning of the current page lists arch's & preferred java
[10:43] <Burgundavia> on breezy, blackdown works on amd64
[10:43] <nickrud> yes.
[10:43] <nickrud> so far so good :0
[10:44] <Burgundavia> ppc java is stuck I think
[10:44] <nickrud> totally?
[10:45] <nickrud> I'm currently going by that quote from the javappc page
[10:45] <Burgundavia> this might do https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=lxdk
[10:46] <mpt> morning everybody
[10:46] <nickrud> wish I had a ppc to test an install
[10:46] <nickrud> I'll have to ask around a bit, find some people who have
[10:46] <Burgundavia> nickrud, mpt has one
[10:47] <Burgundavia> don't know if he sullies it with Ubuntu through
[10:47] <mpt> hehe, no sullying yet :-)
[10:47] <mpt> I have only 1 GB free space anyway ...
[10:47] <nickrud> shouldn't matter, I don't think
[10:48] <Burgundavia> nickrud, default install is 1.8 gb
[10:48] <nickrud> I meant sullying, I'd be happy with an overview of debians :)
[10:49] <teroedni> Hello
[10:50] <Burgundavia> salut teroedni 
[10:51] <mpt> Burgundavia, what do you think of the idea of making help.ubuntu.com a help-specific wiki, and wiki.ubuntu.com a development-specific wiki?
[10:51] <Burgundavia> mpt, I love the idea
[10:51] <Burgundavia> that is exactly the idea mdke and I have been kicking around for at least two months now
[10:51] <mpt> ah
[10:52] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterWikiDocs
[10:52] <mpt> So I guess the problem is, as usual with Ubuntu Web sites, finding someone to implement it :-)
[10:52] <Burgundavia> first we need to agree on what we are doig
[10:54] <mpt> great, I'll look at that tomorrow
[10:54] <Burgundavia> cool
[10:54] <Burgundavia> mpt, a lot of the work I have been doing recently is to categorize things so that we know exactly what we need otmove
[11:29] <Burgundavia> A lot of work has been put into improving the installed documentation  probably to little effect, as the front page of the help system is still intensely hostile to people who want help. The Quick Guide is now called the Starter Guide, which is less misleading. Unfortunately the guide is still caught up in technical navel-gazing: The source code for this book is written using Docbook XML and is kept in a Subve
[11:29] <Burgundavia> rsion code revision control repository. (Or as normal humans would perceive it, The marklar marklar for this book is written using Marklar Marklar and is kept in a Marklar marklar marklar marklar.)
[11:29] <Burgundavia> mpt savages us once again
[11:29] <Burgundavia> http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2006/01/01/breezy\
[11:48] <nickrud> number 13 is my number 1 complaint
[11:50] <Burgundavia> #13?